| 00:01.41 | Harxx | more proper addon list: http://ace.pastey.net/75060-1ezy |
| 00:01.46 | sylvanaar | its still there |
| 00:01.46 | Harxx | which one could be tainted? |
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| 00:02.11 | durcyn | Harxx: CooldownCount has had taint issues in the past. try disabling it. |
| 00:02.38 | Harxx | will do, thanks. |
| 00:03.32 | aestil | my screen is glossy, i dunno why exactly, but it makes the off axis viewing angle better? |
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| 00:03.49 | durcyn | Harxx: see also OmniCC to replace it. http://tuller.wowinterface.com |
| 00:04.49 | Harxx | do you reckon omniCC is better? or just alternative? |
| 00:05.11 | Mudkips | I use omniCC now |
| 00:05.45 | Diao | Kemayo is there a way to remove the "notes" tab on the social pane from ALS |
| 00:05.49 | Diao | it's tainting the window i think |
| 00:06.06 | aestil | the real question harxx, is, what mod is actually 'better' than omnicc |
| 00:07.16 | Ellipsis | hmm... |
| 00:07.35 | Ellipsis | does OmniCC show cooldowns on buttons when the cooldown spiral is visible but the tooltip doesn't show cooldown info? |
| 00:08.05 | Diao | what spells have something like that? |
| 00:08.11 | Ellipsis | macros can |
| 00:08.25 | duaiwe | i think it will, yes |
| 00:08.37 | duaiwe | ... dammit. stupid irc. |
| 00:08.40 | Ellipsis | if you have a macro to use an item and that item isn't in your inventory, the spiral shows but the tooltip won't tell you about the cooldown |
| 00:09.09 | aestil | ckknight: can you provide a way to change the color of the font in parrot |
| 00:09.29 | aestil | on sort of general global settings? |
| 00:09.33 | Harxx | that would be <3 :) |
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| 00:09.56 | aestil | for example change the color of all 'damage done' and all 'healing done' etc...? |
| 00:10.05 | aestil | currently, its a pretty daunting task. |
| 00:10.14 | Harxx | ./force castbar font settings. |
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| 00:23.14 | Ellipsis | bah |
| 00:23.21 | Ellipsis | someone fix auth server plz =[ |
| 00:24.21 | Corgan | ^ |
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| 00:31.54 | Speeddymon | anyone else having issues getting connected? |
| 00:32.20 | durcyn | not anymore, auth servers just came back |
| 00:33.48 | Ellipsis | yay |
| 00:34.06 | Ellipsis | ty durcyn <3 |
| 00:34.24 | durcyn | yeah, it was all me. |
| 00:34.27 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 00:34.40 | Ellipsis | well actually I was more thanking you for letting us know |
| 00:34.49 | Ellipsis | because I was off doing other things in frustration :P |
| 00:34.55 | Mudkips | ya thx for letting me know |
| 00:35.00 | Mudkips | another 3 more hours until i get to log on |
| 00:35.02 | Mudkips | -_- |
| 00:35.36 | Ellipsis | poor Mudkips |
| 00:37.05 | Ellipsis | grr |
| 00:37.11 | Ellipsis | why does eePanels do nothing but spit errors at me? |
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| 00:37.18 | Ellipsis | I didn't do anything to hurt it :( |
| 00:39.01 | Mudkips | cos you touch yourself at night |
| 00:39.07 | Mudkips | how often do I have to tell you this >:O |
| 00:39.35 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 00:39.40 | Ellipsis | I tried to quit, honest I did |
| 00:40.02 | Ellipsis | aestil, you in-game atm? |
| 00:40.42 | Mudkips | I can't wait for snow on the mountains |
| 00:40.51 | Ellipsis | that's what she said |
| 00:40.53 | Mudkips | and freezing my ass off at night doing bg's with the guild |
| 00:41.18 | Mudkips | there was snow a couple days ago :( |
| 00:41.26 | Mudkips | or was that a week ago |
| 00:41.29 | Mudkips | it rained a lot |
| 00:41.51 | MoonWitch | Mudkips, you must hate your ass for wanting it to freeze off. the burn pains will be back in addition to the necrosis |
| 00:41.59 | MoonWitch | bad* |
| 00:42.11 | MoonWitch | s/bad/back |
| 00:42.18 | MoonWitch | s/back/bad |
| 00:42.21 | MoonWitch | whatever |
| 00:42.36 | Mudkips | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/8ba2/ |
| 00:43.04 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 00:44.01 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51437 10Prat/Refactor2/Prat.lua: Prat: More logical name conversions |
| 00:44.29 | MoonWitch | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/2826/ I really want that one |
| 00:44.32 | CIA-12 | 03gamefaq * r51438 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: deDE Update |
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| 00:45.41 | aestil | Ellipsis: yes. |
| 00:46.08 | Ellipsis | can you verify that there's no way to properly enter custom paths for textures? |
| 00:46.14 | Ellipsis | the menus seem to be screwed up |
| 00:46.21 | aestil | i don't know how to use texures. |
| 00:46.26 | aestil | oh. let me look. |
| 00:46.52 | aestil | i dunno. looks fine to me? |
| 00:46.53 | Ellipsis | I just want you to see if the menus look weird to you at all - normally it lets you choose either one of the shared textures, or a custom one which lets you enter a path |
| 00:46.55 | aestil | i can type in that field |
| 00:47.02 | Ellipsis | wtf, why is it broken on my end =[ |
| 00:47.03 | aestil | currently says interface\none |
| 00:47.05 | Mudkips | OAFJ:ALSDF |
| 00:47.08 | Mudkips | I hATE YOU UPP |
| 00:47.12 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:47.14 | Mudkips | the copy url isn't working properly |
| 00:47.24 | Mudkips | why must UPP make me click and drag |
| 00:47.52 | Ellipsis | aestil, which rev of eePanels2 do you have |
| 00:49.10 | Mudkips | ahahah http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/japanese/7a3b/ |
| 00:49.25 | Ellipsis | old |
| 00:50.04 | Ellipsis | aestil: so yours does NOT look like this: http://i21.tinypic.com/e170ht.png |
| 00:50.11 | Speeddymon | anyone here use autolfg? |
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| 01:01.35 | Ellipsis | bah screw it, I'm gonna just use the old eePanels for getting my textures figured out then =[ |
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| 01:12.40 | Kemayo | Diao: I can add a toggle. Maybe split it out into a module. |
| 01:13.31 | Diao | that would be great |
| 01:13.33 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51439 10Prat/Refactor2/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Prat: More logical name conversions |
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| 01:22.53 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51440 10Skillet/ (22 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:22.53 | CIA-12 | Skillet: initial import |
| 01:22.53 | CIA-12 | Skillet it s tradeskill window replacement |
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| 01:25.25 | pakoz | yo, are there any Ace mods that extend the max camera range? |
| 01:26.04 | pakoz | or anyone have a link to one? |
| 01:26.24 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.40 | Kaydeethree | scroll out using your mousewheel to see the effects |
| 01:26.51 | pakoz | thx |
| 01:26.52 | Kaydeethree | increase the number further if 3.5 isn't enough |
| 01:26.57 | pakoz | cool deal |
| 01:27.46 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51441 10Skillet/: |
| 01:27.46 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 01:27.46 | CIA-12 | - Added externals |
| 01:28.06 | pakoz | hmm, whats the max number? |
| 01:29.30 | nogudnik | Well, that was my first commit to the wowace Subversion repository. Let's see how it went. Anyone know what the delay is between a commit and the update to files.wowace.com? |
| 01:29.31 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51442 10Prat/Refactor2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Fix typos etc. |
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| 01:31.56 | Wobwork | nogudnik: about 15min |
| 01:32.26 | nogudnik | Thanks, i'm kinda looking forward to finding out if I messed up the import :-) |
| 01:32.47 | Wobwork | use svn checkout =) |
| 01:33.22 | Mudkips | Ellipsis |
| 01:33.50 | nogudnik | Already did, and it *looks* OK. But I've never truested anything until it came out the other end of a build/package system. |
| 01:40.03 | Kemayo | nogudnik: Any screenshots of this tradeskill replacement? |
| 01:40.39 | Corey | is cartographer quests and questobjectives super helpful? |
| 01:40.45 | nogudnik | Kemayo: basic screenshot at: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7571-Skillet.html, I'm writing the wiki page and forum post now. |
| 01:41.11 | rubik | BT3 doesn't seem to have bindings for PetBar? |
| 01:41.32 | rubik | it just uses the bindings for "Secondary Bar" but doesn't show shortcuts, it seems? |
| 01:42.30 | aestil | Ellipsis: my eepanels are configured with rock. |
| 01:42.42 | aestil | i don't know what it looks like with dewdrop. |
| 01:42.50 | Ellipsis | well I have the same bug in Rock |
| 01:42.56 | aestil | hmm. |
| 01:43.03 | aestil | delete eepanels2 sv? |
| 01:43.17 | Ellipsis | already did, to fix the OTHER issue I was having |
| 01:43.40 | aestil | man, you're an unlucky broad |
| 01:43.47 | Ellipsis | why do addons always break for me and nobody else :( |
| 01:44.05 | Corey | anyone use em? lol |
| 01:44.36 | Kemayo | nogudnik: Your dependency on WaterfallLib is incorrect... it should be Waterfall-1.0. |
| 01:45.31 | nogudnik | Whoops, thanks for pointing that out Kemayo, fixing that now. |
| 01:47.23 | Ellipsis | oh, bah |
| 01:47.47 | Ellipsis | found the problem aestil, I forgot to enable Advanced Mode again after nuking my SVs |
| 01:47.48 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 01:47.53 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51443 10Skillet/ (Skillet.lua Skillet.toc): |
| 01:47.53 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 01:47.53 | CIA-12 | - Upped the version to 1.8 |
| 01:47.53 | CIA-12 | - Fixed dependency on Waterfall |
| 01:48.26 | Kemayo | nogudnik: Skillet-1.7-51440\Skillet.lua:300: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "BANKFRAME_OPENED" to method "BANKFRAME_OPENED", it does not exist |
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| 01:51.12 | nogudnik | OK, that's going to take a little longer to track down. I'm not seeing it here. Off to check that I imported the correct version of every file. |
| 01:51.53 | Corey | anyone know if cartographer quests and questobjectives is super helpful for levelin? |
| 01:55.38 | Kemayo | nogudnik: I'm just curious -- why the custom version of Stitch? |
| 01:57.31 | nogudnik | I found I was making lots of little changes to Stitch and since I did not have SVN access at the time, I decided to work with a local copy and see about taling tonymbia and merging the changes into Stitch later on. |
| 01:58.54 | Kemayo | nogudnik: The version you committed to SVN doesn't include UI/ShoppingList.* or Upgrades.lua |
| 01:59.32 | Kemayo | Which explains the BANKFRAME_OPENED thing, at least. |
| 02:00.45 | Ellipsis | k somewhere along the line I failed |
| 02:04.04 | nogudnik | Well, I fail at the import it seems. I'll grab a copy out of my local subversion server. |
| 02:04.19 | aestil | Ellipsis: lol at you. noob. |
| 02:06.22 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51444 10Ace3/AceLocale-3.0/AceLocale-3.0.lua: Ace3: Assorted cleanups to AceLocale |
| 02:09.34 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51445 10Skillet/ (UI/ShoppingList.lua UI/ShoppingList.xml Upgrades.lua): |
| 02:09.34 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 02:09.34 | CIA-12 | - Added files missed in the original import. |
| 02:10.03 | Paene | hm...I'm trying to figure out what event would allow you to check a cooldown every second. Any thoughts? |
| 02:13.54 | Ellipsis | Paene: if you want to poll every second, just poll |
| 02:14.09 | Ellipsis | if you want to do things event-driven then you use an event, not a timer :P |
| 02:14.56 | Paene | lol, essentially, I have a button I want to display the cooldown of the spell it's bound to |
| 02:15.07 | Paene | I've been told polling is a bad idea :-/ |
| 02:15.46 | Ellipsis | generally it is, but if you want to update information in real-time, then polling is the way to go |
| 02:16.21 | Paene | hm...kk |
| 02:16.22 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51446 10AutomaticLFG/ (. AutomaticLFG.lua AutomaticLFG.toc AutomaticLFG.xml): |
| 02:16.22 | CIA-12 | AutomaticLFG: |
| 02:16.22 | CIA-12 | - Initial Import |
| 02:16.22 | CIA-12 | - Joins the LFG channel, the same way that AutoLFG does, but does nothing if you are in a group already, or join a group |
| 02:16.24 | Paene | thanks :) |
| 02:16.27 | Ellipsis | np ^-^ |
| 02:16.35 | Ellipsis | now brb while I go beat up a pillow |
| 02:17.12 | Paene | lol |
| 02:17.17 | Kemayo | nogudnik: Skillet's X-Embeds includes "Waterfall-1.0, WaterfallLib". One of these can be removed. :) |
| 02:17.24 | Paene | why beat up a pillow? |
| 02:19.39 | nogudnik | Kemayo: I blame the heat. It's making me goofy. |
| 02:19.53 | Ellipsis | because certain people are doing certain things which are making me very...frustrated, to say the least :) |
| 02:21.48 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r51447 10DKPmon/main.lua: DKPmon: Autolog start using the wrong log name. |
| 02:23.01 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51448 10Skillet/Skillet.toc: |
| 02:23.01 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 02:23.01 | CIA-12 | - Removed WaterfallLib from X-Embeds |
| 02:26.35 | Kemayo | Anyone know if the arcanite transmute on the same cooldown as the BC transmutes? |
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| 02:37.04 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51449 10AutomaticLFG/ (. AutomaticLFG.lua AutomaticLFG.toc): |
| 02:37.04 | CIA-12 | AutomaticLFG: |
| 02:37.04 | CIA-12 | - Fixed properties, and removed unneeded AceOO |
| 02:37.04 | CIA-12 | - Added status messages |
| 02:37.04 | CIA-12 | - Known issue: If you are not in a party, and change the LFG setting thru the /lfg or /lfm screen, you may still get reverted to the where this addon places you. |
| 02:40.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay, Phase 4 Illidan. |
| 02:41.56 | Aeyan | Pfft. That's not Phase Dead, now is it? |
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| 02:45.09 | ZealotOnAStick | No. |
| 02:45.28 | aestil | solarian is too easy. |
| 02:45.34 | ZealotOnAStick | But considering we played with him for like 20 minutes last night, and then tonight is our first real night working on him, not too bad. |
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| 02:50.48 | Silverstorm | Yes, Solarian is quite easy now |
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| 02:54.23 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51450 10Acolyte2/ (Acolyte2.toc local/zhTW.lua): |
| 02:54.23 | CIA-12 | Acolyte2: |
| 02:54.23 | CIA-12 | - Added zhTW localization |
| 02:54.23 | CIA-12 | - update toc file to load zhTW file |
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| 02:59.50 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51451 10Skillet/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:59.50 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 02:59.50 | CIA-12 | - Updated zhTW translations |
| 02:59.55 | aestil | Antiarc|Lapto1 you double box IRC? |
| 03:03.54 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_POI requires Cartographer_Notes in the dependencies... is that a mistake? |
| 03:04.08 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r51452 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: |
| 03:04.08 | CIA-12 | AceTab-3.0: |
| 03:04.08 | CIA-12 | - More code cleanup; significant reworking of logic in some places, especially in the usage statement implementation. |
| 03:04.08 | CIA-12 | - this.matches now holds matches in the form rawmatch = formattedmatch, instead of being an integer-indexed table of matches. |
| 03:04.08 | CIA-12 | - Comment density approximately doubled, detailing every step of both the main match-decision loop and the usage statement implementation. |
| 03:04.13 | CIA-12 | - More efficient (re)use of local variables. |
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| 03:12.10 | KarlThePagan | OT webcomicness... chugworth.com is back, I think ck linked me to that one |
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| 03:18.29 | Paradox | anyone know how I might get a more 'advanced' colour picker in eePanels2? where I can type in RGB values etc |
| 03:18.38 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51454 10Ace3/ (AceEvent-3.0/AceEvent-3.0.lua AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua): Ace3: Added better error messages and secure checking to AceHook |
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| 03:19.20 | Ellipsis | Paradox: download EnhancedColourPicker or configure it through Rock :) |
| 03:20.13 | Paradox | thanks |
| 03:22.34 | I_D | Ellipsis: do you know of any raidframes that could use a mouseover expand feature? |
| 03:23.13 | I_D | for instance raidframes sorted on class, where there would just be 1 button for every class, when you mouseover, the button expands horizontally or vertically to show all the members in that group |
| 03:23.27 | I_D | wonder if that's possible |
| 03:24.01 | Ellipsis | I don't think it is possible with the current secure frames system |
| 03:24.09 | Ellipsis | but I'm no expert on secure stuff |
| 03:24.47 | KarlThePagan | perhaps |
| 03:24.56 | KarlThePagan | secure templates are woooooo |
| 03:25.56 | KarlThePagan | no mouseover mention on wowwiki, but it could be old info |
| 03:27.56 | Aens|Superiority | Who is a bigwigs dev? |
| 03:31.06 | ulic | Ammo, Funkydude, & rabbit, so says '/bigwigs about' |
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| 03:34.25 | Paene | Is using an item considered casting a spell when it comes to events? |
| 03:35.35 | Seerah | what a secure action? |
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| 03:37.40 | CIA-12 | 03auditjj * r51455 10BigBrother/localization_zhTW.lua: |
| 03:37.40 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 03:37.40 | CIA-12 | - updated zhTW localization |
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| 03:42.17 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51456 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes.toc: Cartographer_Routes: Change Cartographer_Routes to be LoadOnDemand: 1 and add X-Name and X-ModuleName fields to support this. Change from ANSI to UTF-8 text format. |
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| 03:43.30 | CIA-12 | FuBar_LogFu: initial commit |
| 03:43.30 | CIA-12 | - LogFu is a simple clickable text for FuBar in order to enable/disable combat logging for later parsing purposes (e.g. WowWebStats) |
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| 03:45.06 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51458 10Prat/Refactor2/ (Prat.lua extras/util.lua): Prat: More fixes to debug prints. |
| 03:45.25 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51459 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (Core.lua TSP.lua embeds.xml): Cartographer_Routes: Convert the other files to UTF-8 format too. |
| 03:47.02 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51460 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: Will no longer error if you unhook a non existant hook |
| 03:48.55 | Paene | WTB Event that fires when an item is used |
| 03:50.44 | Tuller | hrm |
| 03:50.58 | Tuller | bag_update |
| 03:51.01 | Tuller | there you go :) |
| 03:51.29 | Ellipsis | are you looking for a specific item, Paene? |
| 03:51.40 | Paradox | are there any UI sites you can download ui's from? |
| 03:51.47 | Paradox | specifically ui's not an addon site like curse |
| 03:52.10 | Paene | yeah |
| 03:52.13 | Nandini | many sites host compilations as well as individual addons |
| 03:52.15 | Paene | Elipsis: yeah |
| 03:52.22 | Ellipsis | what item? o.O |
| 03:52.23 | Paene | doh, *Ellipsis |
| 03:52.31 | Paene | I wanna detect when the mage uses a mana gem |
| 03:52.44 | Ellipsis | so you're just watching for cooldowns on mana gems? |
| 03:52.48 | Paene | yeah |
| 03:53.08 | Paene | but trying to avoid polling the item all the time |
| 03:53.26 | Ellipsis | well, a roundabout way would be to catch the combat event for mana gain from items... |
| 03:53.38 | Ellipsis | there's probably something better though |
| 03:54.04 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51461 10Acolyte2/local/zhTW.lua: |
| 03:54.04 | CIA-12 | Acolyte2: |
| 03:54.04 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW typo |
| 03:54.35 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r51462 10Skillet/ (Locale/Locale-koKR.lua Skillet.toc): |
| 03:54.35 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 03:54.35 | CIA-12 | - Add locale koKR |
| 03:54.40 | Paene | Yeah, if I had an event that fires when an item is used and is passed the itemID or something, then I can just compare the itemID and fire a custom event that polls for the duration of the mana gem cooldown |
| 03:54.41 | Paradox | i'm finding it next to impossible to change my UI, i'm too used to what I have.. but it's such a mess and I want to make it minimalistic so I can actually appreciate the raid enviroments etc |
| 03:55.34 | Paene | Ellipsis: For example, on UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED, I check the name of the spell cast and start polling that spell |
| 03:55.47 | Paene | if it's a spell with a cooldown I want to track |
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| 03:56.18 | CIA-12 | 03auditjj * r51464 10LoggerHead/ (LoggerHead.toc LoggerHeadLocale-zhTW.lua): |
| 03:56.18 | CIA-12 | LoggerHead: |
| 03:56.19 | CIA-12 | - Added zhTW translation |
| 03:57.31 | Paene | hm...I could store whether the mage has a certain mana gem, then on BAG_UPDATE check for that gem. If it's status changes, fire the cooldown event...hm.... |
| 04:00.10 | Ellipsis | Paradox, you can always post a screenshot and ask for advice :P |
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| 04:06.31 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
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| 04:12.36 | orionshock | morning all |
| 04:12.49 | Paradox | why doesn't eepanels support proper borders =( |
| 04:13.15 | Paradox | i've got to make another panel, make it slightly larger than the panel I want to border, and use that panel as the 'border' behind the actual panel i want bordering |
| 04:14.44 | Seerah | paradox: why not use the roth border in shared media? |
| 04:15.00 | Paradox | shared media? |
| 04:15.23 | Nandini | Paradox: if you are using a color or gradient with your eePanel, I think he adds a new frame in front of everything, so it overlays the borders too |
| 04:15.43 | Nandini | otherwise, you can't use the gradient part on a textured texture, only on a "blank" texture |
| 04:15.51 | Paradox | :blink: |
| 04:15.58 | Seerah | huh nandini? |
| 04:16.22 | Seerah | ~SharedMedia |
| 04:16.41 | Nandini | for some reason, no matter how you specify insets, if you apply a color or gradient to an eepanel, it plops a big rectangle over the whole thing |
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| 04:16.54 | Nandini | but that may have changed, i haven't used eePanels in several months |
| 04:17.03 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51467 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: Cleaned up a few comments on Acehook |
| 04:17.20 | Seerah | anyway, SharedMedia adds fonts, textures, borders, etc to your options in-game. you can even add your own in there |
| 04:17.34 | Nefarion | question: Is Rock considered generally stable yet?? |
| 04:17.53 | Nandini | it depends on how the day's localization adventures went, nefarion :P |
| 04:17.53 | Ellipsis | er, was it ever unstable? |
| 04:18.13 | Ellipsis | and Paradox, what exactly is a "proper" border? o.O |
| 04:18.45 | Nandini | a border is one in which the backdrop fits inside as specified by the inset! |
| 04:19.06 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 04:19.06 | Nandini | which does work if you're using a textured inset |
| 04:19.12 | Ellipsis | border textures have always been there o.O |
| 04:19.30 | Nandini | but if you throw a color or gradient on top, it goes over the border and the backdrop |
| 04:19.39 | Ellipsis | not if you set the inset correctly... |
| 04:19.40 | Seerah | no.... |
| 04:19.46 | Paradox | http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7804/thiswi8.png |
| 04:19.50 | Paradox | I want to be able to do that |
| 04:19.50 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51468 10Acolyte2/local/zhTW.lua: |
| 04:19.50 | CIA-12 | Acolyte2: |
| 04:19.50 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW soul shard to correct name |
| 04:19.52 | Paradox | with a single panel |
| 04:19.58 | Ellipsis | you can |
| 04:20.04 | Paradox | but that's actually two panels on top of one another |
| 04:20.06 | Nefarion | with eePanels? |
| 04:20.06 | Ellipsis | if you need a solid border texture, I made one I can send you |
| 04:20.18 | Seerah | like I said - use the roth border texure in SharedMedia |
| 04:20.23 | hyperChipmunk | Nefarion: there's been core bugfixes as recent as last thursday, plus localization errors continuously through the past week |
| 04:20.23 | Paradox | why do I need a texture? |
| 04:20.26 | Kaelten | Nefarion: its had 62 commits since the 1st |
| 04:20.28 | Paradox | can't I just set a border colour |
| 04:20.30 | Seerah | then color it black and make it as wide as you need it |
| 04:20.33 | Nandini | because borders are built out of textures |
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| 04:20.53 | hyperChipmunk | so unless your definition of stable is very loose, then I'd say not |
| 04:21.04 | Ellipsis | Paradox: the default borders are Blizz's, not a solid color |
| 04:21.20 | Paradox | how do I use the roth border texture then? |
| 04:21.27 | Nandini | there is no way to just "draw a line" in wow to create a border |
| 04:21.27 | Xinhuan | hyperChipmunk: localization errors isn't the fault of the developer ;p |
| 04:21.29 | Ellipsis | http://image.bayimg.com/oahogaabf.jpg << my solid border in action |
| 04:21.44 | Kaelten | Any project thats had 60 commits in a week is welll.... not quite stable imho |
| 04:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | Xinhuan: no, but that's not what he asked |
| 04:21.56 | hyperChipmunk | he asked whether it was stable |
| 04:21.59 | Nandini | he asked if Rock was stable, not if its developer was stable :P |
| 04:22.04 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 04:22.15 | Nefarion | lol |
| 04:22.17 | Ellipsis | 60 commits counts a ton of localization stuff though |
| 04:22.21 | Ellipsis | which isn't quite fair either |
| 04:22.24 | Xinhuan | yep |
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| 04:22.27 | Nandini | and the answer to either question could probably change depending on what time of day you ask |
| 04:22.28 | Xinhuan | and localization fixes |
| 04:22.28 | Kaelten | 35 of them was ck |
| 04:22.31 | hyperChipmunk | NOBODY ASKED WHETHER IT WAS FAIR! |
| 04:22.35 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 04:22.43 | Xinhuan | that's a good 40% for localization then |
| 04:22.51 | Nefarion | well i actually meant more "is it likely there will be a lot of large fuck-upping changes". i'm fine using buggy stuff. |
| 04:23.06 | Ellipsis | buggy is to be expected with new code |
| 04:23.07 | hyperChipmunk | only ckk can answer that |
| 04:23.10 | Kaelten | er, so you're arguing that 30 commits is stable :S |
| 04:23.23 | Nandini | i'm sure just like any other new code, little things will pop up as more people start using it |
| 04:23.25 | Ellipsis | Kaelten: no, just that 60 commits being unstable isn't a fair measure of stability |
| 04:23.30 | Paradox | Seerah: how do I use roth? |
| 04:23.31 | hyperChipmunk | buggy should not be expected >8\ |
| 04:23.40 | Xinhuan | lots of commits doesn't mean its unstable, could just be "adding features" |
| 04:23.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's the definition of unstable |
| 04:23.54 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: I bow before anyone here who can write perfectly bug-free code the first time |
| 04:24.10 | orionshock | Kaelten: how many of those commits where cat and mouse games with Scroge? |
| 04:24.10 | Seerah | Paradox: INSTALL SHAREDMEDIA |
| 04:24.19 | Nandini | Paradox: install the addon called SharedMedia |
| 04:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | orionshock: that's still unstable |
| 04:24.28 | Seerah | stupid cat and mouse games might I add.... |
| 04:24.32 | Xinhuan | but that's not my definition of unstable, mine is that if it breaks often, its unstable |
| 04:24.34 | hyperChipmunk | stable means 'unchanging' |
| 04:24.36 | Nefarion | okay, jeez! it was just a simple question. |
| 04:24.39 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict unstable |
| 04:24.39 | Kaelten | orionshock: no clue, but anytime you insert changes into a codebase you risk instability |
| 04:24.51 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 04:24.56 | Ellipsis | Nefarion clarified his question |
| 04:24.56 | hyperChipmunk | fraught with uncertainty! |
| 04:25.00 | Nandini | hmm "fraught with uncertainty!" |
| 04:25.04 | Ellipsis | and I would say that Rock fits his definition of stable |
| 04:25.17 | Xinhuan | you're using the wrong meaning of unstable |
| 04:25.18 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 04:25.23 | Kaelten | Nefarion: I'd assume that ck counts it as stable at least to an extent sinc eh ported his stuff to it |
| 04:25.26 | hyperChipmunk | that's just not the definition of stability most has |
| 04:25.30 | hyperChipmunk | have* |
| 04:25.31 | Xinhuan | unstable in the programming world means "a program that is likely to crash/hang" |
| 04:25.36 | Nandini | tons of people are already using Rock-supported addons with usually minimal or no complications |
| 04:25.47 | Xinhuan | or cause system unstability |
| 04:25.48 | Nandini | if you're smart enough to ask about Rock here, you are probably smart enough to be using it now :) |
| 04:25.50 | Xinhuan | ROck doesn't do that |
| 04:25.51 | hyperChipmunk | no, that's unstable in the world of end-user computing |
| 04:26.04 | Xinhuan | well how do you know what context the question is asked in? |
| 04:26.16 | Ellipsis | wait, since when do we assume that users asking questions aren't users? |
| 04:26.18 | Xinhuan | i assumed it was in the end-user context |
| 04:26.30 | Nandini | hmm... "highly or violently reactive"... that actually would have been a good description this weekend |
| 04:26.35 | hyperChipmunk | in the development world, it means that the code has settled down, is feature-complete, and all known bugs have been squashed |
| 04:26.37 | Nefarion | it was a development related question =/ |
| 04:26.51 | Xinhuan | ~lart Nefarion |
| 04:26.51 | purl | beats Nefarion to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 04:26.59 | hyperChipmunk | Ellipsis: since it's a framework, not an addon |
| 04:27.07 | hyperChipmunk | the users of a framework are developers |
| 04:27.24 | hyperChipmunk | and most don't wish to code against a moving target |
| 04:27.44 | Ellipsis | he already stated that the API is set |
| 04:27.46 | Nefarion | well put |
| 04:27.51 | Ellipsis | so you're not coding against a moving target |
| 04:27.53 | hyperChipmunk | when there is still a chance of API changing, then it's considered unstable |
| 04:27.54 | orionshock | feature complete i would call rock |
| 04:28.05 | orionshock | all known bugs worked out i would say many are... |
| 04:28.08 | hyperChipmunk | like I said, only ckk can answer that question |
| 04:28.19 | Ellipsis | right, but you apparently choose to speak for him |
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| 04:28.35 | ckknight | bah, stop pinging me |
| 04:28.36 | hyperChipmunk | and if he says it's api-locked, then once all known bugs are squashed, then you'd say "yes, it is stable" |
| 04:28.41 | ckknight | the API's not chaning |
| 04:28.44 | ckknight | changing* |
| 04:28.52 | Ellipsis | and there you have it |
| 04:28.55 | Paradox | i'm using Interface\AddOns\SharedMedia\border\roth.tga as the border texture now and i've set a colour for it messed with the border settings and I can't see any border at all, any ideas? |
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| 04:29.11 | Nefarion | did you install the border BEFORE opening the game? |
| 04:29.25 | hyperChipmunk | no, i haven't chosen to speak for him. But the bug-squash part is not finished yet, unless that was the last of the translations >8p |
| 04:29.26 | Paradox | I just realised that 2 seconds after hitting enter :/ |
| 04:29.27 | Nefarion | the game needs to see the file's there as it opens, and won't read it after that point |
| 04:29.53 | Seerah | need to buy a new fly swatter.... >.> |
| 04:30.03 | Seerah | okay, I'm still not funny |
| 04:30.18 | Nefarion | you try =/ |
| 04:30.41 | Ellipsis | [9:20:24 pm] <@hyperChipmunk> so unless your definition of stable is very loose, then I'd say not [9:27:40 pm] <@hyperChipmunk> like I said, only ckk can answer that question |
| 04:30.50 | Xinhuan | it is possible to be so unfunny, one is actually funny ;p |
| 04:30.53 | Ellipsis | so you answered and then said only he could answer...but you're not speaking for him? |
| 04:31.02 | Nefarion | jesus, drop it! |
| 04:31.05 | Xinhuan | funny isn't it? |
| 04:31.09 | hyperChipmunk | he can answer the API lock part |
| 04:31.15 | Nefarion | why does the Ace community so love drama? |
| 04:31.25 | ckknight | I already did, hyperChipmunk |
| 04:31.27 | Paradox | the border doesn't seem to be solid even though i've set the transparency in the colour picker 100% :3 |
| 04:31.30 | Xinhuan | nef: because its IRC :) |
| 04:31.35 | ckknight | the API froze when I released Rock when my addons moved to trunk |
| 04:31.43 | Kaelten | Nefarion: you're missing the fact that I think everyone loves drama |
| 04:31.47 | orionshock | human personalities loves drama |
| 04:31.47 | ckknight | Nefarion: I've been trying to avoid it |
| 04:31.50 | Xinhuan | internet communities thrive on drama! |
| 04:31.53 | Ellipsis | Paradox: I don't think that border is plain solid opaque texture |
| 04:32.00 | Paradox | ah |
| 04:32.09 | ckknight | Anonymity + Audience = Shitcock |
| 04:32.11 | Nefarion | i've got an opaque border floating around if you want |
| 04:32.12 | Ellipsis | it's a bit transparent to look cooler |
| 04:32.14 | Nefarion | i can send it |
| 04:32.20 | hyperChipmunk | but there are still known bugs/chinese translators to be squashed, which is why i'd still consider it unstable. A look at the recent changelog will confirm that |
| 04:32.27 | Xinhuan | i've got a 6 guild inter-drama 16 page thread on my realm forums lol |
| 04:32.35 | Xinhuan | where guild leaders from each guild called each other shit |
| 04:32.37 | Ellipsis | yes, we should all just learn chinese and solve the problem |
| 04:32.41 | Xinhuan | including me :P |
| 04:32.46 | hyperChipmunk | or destroy all the chinese |
| 04:32.52 | Ellipsis | that works, too |
| 04:32.59 | Kaelten | um, they outnumber us |
| 04:33.08 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, but they can't code for jack |
| 04:33.14 | Xinhuan | fyi, i'm chinese |
| 04:33.20 | Nefarion | ins't Slouken chinese? |
| 04:33.22 | hyperChipmunk | fyi, i'm joking |
| 04:33.24 | Ellipsis | don't worry Xinhuan, we're not excluding you |
| 04:33.25 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 04:33.27 | Seerah | Paradox: or just use two eepanels /sigh :) |
| 04:33.31 | Xinhuan | ~lart Ellipsis |
| 04:33.31 | purl | decapitates Ellipsis conan the destroyer style |
| 04:33.32 | hyperChipmunk | Nefarion: case in point |
| 04:33.40 | Nandini | yay conan! |
| 04:33.44 | Ellipsis | one panel with a border is much more efficient, not to mention easier to work with :P |
| 04:34.08 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: you know ilu <3 |
| 04:34.20 | Seerah | awwww |
| 04:34.25 | Paradox | nah..thanks anyway, I just don't know where to begin making a new ui |
| 04:34.27 | Xinhuan | i wonder how many emotes purl supports now |
| 04:34.27 | Nandini | Ellipsis, if the borders supplied in SharedMedia do not meet your needs, create your own or ask someone to create one for you. |
| 04:34.29 | Paradox | i've been using the same one for so long |
| 04:34.39 | Nefarion | What is that Purl crap anyway? |
| 04:34.40 | Ellipsis | Nandini - I hope that was meant to be directed at Paradox |
| 04:34.46 | Kaelten | ~purl |
| 04:34.46 | purl | from memory, purl is emo |
| 04:34.50 | Nandini | Sorry, misclicked, yes paradox |
| 04:34.51 | orionshock | purl is a bot |
| 04:34.55 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 04:34.57 | Nefarion | obvious enough |
| 04:34.58 | Nandini | LMAO |
| 04:34.58 | Ellipsis | ~emo |
| 04:34.59 | purl | /wrists |
| 04:35.01 | Nandini | ~nandini |
| 04:35.02 | purl | i guess nandini is really not a retard (he's just special) |
| 04:35.04 | Kaelten | purl, who are you |
| 04:35.05 | purl | Kaelten: I think you lost me on that one |
| 04:35.05 | Nefarion | or i would hope so >> |
| 04:35.11 | Kaelten | purl who are you? |
| 04:35.13 | purl | Kaelten: what are you talking about? |
| 04:35.15 | hyperChipmunk | ~emulate zeeg |
| 04:35.16 | purl | anyone recommend some newer black people music... most people simply call it ni.. music |
| 04:35.18 | Kaelten | who is purl? |
| 04:35.26 | Ellipsis | ~fail Kaelten |
| 04:35.26 | purl | Kaelten: Fail. |
| 04:35.36 | Kaelten | ~hug Ellipsis |
| 04:35.36 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Ellipsis and suddenly hugs Ellipsis tightly |
| 04:35.41 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 04:35.46 | Nefarion | ~fail purl |
| 04:35.46 | purl | purl: Fail. |
| 04:35.49 | hyperChipmunk | ~whaleslap Kaelten |
| 04:35.50 | purl | ACTION beats Kaelten upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:35.53 | Seerah | ~lart purl |
| 04:35.53 | purl | teaches seerah that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 04:35.56 | Ellipsis | ~whaleblock Kaelten |
| 04:35.56 | purl | ACTION shields Kaelten with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
| 04:35.57 | Kaelten | ~whaledodge hyperChipmunk |
| 04:36.03 | Kaelten | ah damn its whale block |
| 04:36.04 | Kaelten | :s |
| 04:36.07 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 04:36.10 | Kaelten | ~hide me |
| 04:36.10 | purl | ACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers kaelten with it so that nobody can see what kaelten is doing! |
| 04:36.17 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 04:36.23 | Ellipsis | what *are* you doing under there? |
| 04:36.28 | Seerah | ~Kaelten |
| 04:36.29 | purl | [kaelten] the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong winDROP DATABASE wowace_wiki;...aw, dammitall. |
| 04:36.38 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 04:36.40 | Nandini | LMAO |
| 04:36.47 | Paradox | ~Paradox |
| 04:36.48 | purl | you are, like, Microsoft's trusted computing initiative |
| 04:36.51 | hyperChipmunk | omg that's great |
| 04:36.58 | Kaelten | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
| 04:36.58 | purl | eats hyperChipmunk and falls over dead |
| 04:36.59 | Nefarion | ~Nefarion |
| 04:37.03 | Nefarion | O.o |
| 04:37.12 | Kaelten | no one has set yours yet |
| 04:37.15 | Kaelten | ~hyperChipmunk |
| 04:37.16 | purl | i heard hyperchipmunk is *chitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitter* |
| 04:37.17 | Seerah | ~seen moonwitch |
| 04:37.28 | purl | moonwitch <i=Kay@83.101.2.61> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 52m 59s ago, saying: 'http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/2826/ I really want that one'. |
| 04:37.28 | Nefarion | and I do that how? |
| 04:37.28 | Kaelten | er, I'm not sure |
| 04:37.28 | Xinhuan | ~popcorn |
| 04:37.29 | purl | Mmmm, I like E-drama! |
| 04:37.33 | Kaelten | ~hide Ellipsis |
| 04:37.33 | purl | ACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers Ellipsis with it so that nobody can see what Ellipsis is doing! |
| 04:37.36 | Nandini | purl, nefarion is a rabblerouser who causes problems by asking seemingly innocent questions. |
| 04:37.36 | purl | Nandini: okay |
| 04:37.39 | hyperChipmunk | purl, Nefarion is somebody who loves to incite drama. |
| 04:37.39 | purl | ...but nefarion is already something else... |
| 04:37.43 | orionshock | purl, Nefarion is a noob to irc bots |
| 04:37.44 | purl | ...but nefarion is already something else... |
| 04:37.51 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 04:37.54 | hyperChipmunk | ~nefarion |
| 04:37.54 | purl | methinks nefarion is a rabblerouser who causes problems by asking seemingly innocent questions. |
| 04:38.00 | hyperChipmunk | that's the best one anyway |
| 04:38.03 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 04:38.04 | Nefarion | I'm a noob to IRC /cry |
| 04:38.09 | hyperChipmunk | ~emulate hyperChipmunk |
| 04:38.10 | purl | ACTION kidnaps you to test Bulkmail. |
| 04:38.10 | Ellipsis | orionshock is more noob |
| 04:38.10 | Kaelten | ~comfort Nefarion |
| 04:38.11 | purl | There, there, Nefarion. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:38.11 | Ellipsis | and proved it |
| 04:38.12 | Seerah | ~seerah |
| 04:38.15 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 04:38.17 | orionshock | oh so true Ellipsis |
| 04:38.25 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 04:38.29 | hyperChipmunk | ~emulate hyperChipmunk |
| 04:38.30 | purl | ACTION chitters. |
| 04:38.34 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 04:38.35 | Seerah | oh, I don't exist! |
| 04:38.41 | Ellipsis | ~emulate Seerah |
| 04:38.47 | Ellipsis | oh come on, now that one's just *begging* to be written |
| 04:38.54 | Kaelten | ~Ellipsis |
| 04:38.54 | purl | well, ellipsis is insane |
| 04:38.57 | Xinhuan | the forum drama policy doesn't apply to this IRC channel right? :) |
| 04:38.59 | Ellipsis | I am? |
| 04:39.03 | orionshock | lol |
| 04:39.10 | Ellipsis | cnc must have written that one... |
| 04:39.13 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: depends |
| 04:39.24 | Ellipsis | purl, who set ellipsis? |
| 04:39.25 | Xinhuan | that's pretty vague Kaelten |
| 04:39.34 | Ellipsis | hmph |
| 04:39.36 | Seerah | MOTD says "Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT." |
| 04:39.43 | Ellipsis | minors don't mind drama |
| 04:39.48 | ckknight | purl: keyinfo ellipsis |
| 04:39.49 | Nandini | yes, so NO MORE NECROPHILIA |
| 04:39.55 | Xinhuan | so how many people are minors here? hehe |
| 04:40.09 | orionshock | me |
| 04:40.11 | orionshock | im 12 :D |
| 04:40.13 | Kaelten | we know that |
| 04:40.14 | Nefarion | Anyone know a decent open-source music player for Windows? |
| 04:40.16 | Ellipsis | Nandini, I guess those of us who play undead will be missing out for a bit :P |
| 04:40.16 | Kaelten | we pitty you |
| 04:40.17 | ckknight | purl, factinfo ellipsis |
| 04:40.17 | purl | ellipsis -- created by SaladFork <n=SaladFor@pool-71-248-160-155.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> at Thu Sep 27 02:20:30 2007 (12 days); it has been requested once, last by Kaelten, 1m 23s ago. |
| 04:40.19 | orionshock | :P |
| 04:40.25 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 04:40.27 | Ellipsis | he would do that |
| 04:40.29 | hyperChipmunk | Nefarion: mplayerclassic |
| 04:40.36 | Ellipsis | ~saladfork |
| 04:40.36 | purl | i heard saladfork is not asleep |
| 04:40.40 | ckknight | Nefarion: Foobar2000 |
| 04:40.42 | Nandini | Ellipses, I'd make sweet love to you, but I don't want to catch anything. |
| 04:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | ~mpc |
| 04:40.48 | Ellipsis | purl, saladfork is a noob who never uses IRC |
| 04:40.49 | purl | ...but saladfork is already something else... |
| 04:40.50 | Seerah | lol |
| 04:40.54 | Ellipsis | purl, no, saladfork is a noob who never uses IRC |
| 04:40.54 | purl | Ellipsis: okay |
| 04:40.55 | Nandini | dammit, i actually type instead of clicking and i still don't get it right |
| 04:40.57 | hyperChipmunk | ~gulliverkli |
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| 04:41.08 | Ellipsis | Nandini: I'm clean and have the papers to prove it! |
| 04:41.12 | Seerah | ~Cairenn |
| 04:41.13 | purl | it has been said that cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 04:41.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~guliverkli |
| 04:41.17 | Nandini | shhh... Cairenn is here |
| 04:41.18 | ckknight | Ellipsis: srsly? |
| 04:41.29 | Ellipsis | no |
| 04:41.29 | Kaelten | ~Ace3 |
| 04:41.30 | purl | it has been said that ace3 is an addon framework for World of Warcraft to make writing addons easier. The primary difference from Ace2 is to be more interoperable with as many frameworks as possible, allowing only bits and pieces to be chosen for addons, and no longer be a one megabyte monster. |
| 04:41.30 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 04:41.37 | Fin | ckknight: did you get my ping at all? |
| 04:41.42 | Kaelten | heh, crazy people set everything |
| 04:41.46 | Kaelten | ~everything |
| 04:41.49 | ckknight | if I did, I decided not to care |
| 04:41.53 | Seerah | ~Fin |
| 04:41.53 | purl | somebody said fin was Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 04:42.01 | Ellipsis | ckknight: let's just say I don't need to be tested :P |
| 04:42.03 | ckknight | I'm not working on WoW stuff now |
| 04:42.06 | Nandini | Ellipsis, no outbreaks of the scourge lately? |
| 04:42.12 | dylanm | Someone kick purl. |
| 04:42.14 | Ellipsis | Nandini: not in recent memory |
| 04:42.16 | Kaelten | kick, purl |
| 04:42.24 | ckknight | Ellipsis: you play safe and monogamous? |
| 04:42.27 | dylanm | Coooaaast. |
| 04:42.34 | Seerah | purl kick purl |
| 04:42.35 | purl | ACTION kicks purl |
| 04:42.39 | Ellipsis | ckknight: er...well...yes |
| 04:42.41 | Kaelten | Nandini: na but she may have scurvy |
| 04:42.51 | Ellipsis | yarr |
| 04:43.12 | Nandini | hmm... well i'm not one who likes it messy, so I'll pass till that clears up |
| 04:43.19 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 04:43.19 | dylanm | I like purl alright when it's answering someone's honest question succinctly but other than that it's spam all over the place. |
| 04:43.24 | Kaelten | ~scurvy |
| 04:43.45 | Xinhuan | what happens if 20 channels each decide to spam purl, does he queue up 1000 messages to be sent? |
| 04:43.46 | Kaelten | but I like to lart people :( |
| 04:43.51 | Nandini | ~usrealmip |
| 04:43.51 | purl | hmm... usrealmip is you can find the IP address of all U.S. realms and their datacenters at http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter |
| 04:43.58 | ckknight | my brother got scurvy once |
| 04:44.01 | hyperChipmunk | Xinhuan: he answers them 2 hours later |
| 04:44.01 | aestil | whats the macro to loot the weapons in kael? |
| 04:44.07 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: sometimes he gets backed up |
| 04:44.12 | Ellipsis | that's what she saaid |
| 04:44.16 | Ellipsis | s/saaid/said |
| 04:44.26 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 04:44.27 | Seerah | purl is a she so I remember |
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| 04:44.32 | Ellipsis | purl, gender |
| 04:44.33 | purl | I'm female |
| 04:44.33 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: really? a møøse once bit my sister |
| 04:44.46 | Kaelten | purl, species |
| 04:44.47 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk - I lol'ed |
| 04:44.54 | Kaelten | bah |
| 04:44.56 | Xinhuan | aestil: there is no macro that can be used to loot items. |
| 04:44.57 | hyperChipmunk | ~lol |
| 04:44.57 | purl | lol is probably stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 04:45.08 | Kaelten | LOL |
| 04:45.09 | Ellipsis | I don't care. I lol'ed. |
| 04:45.11 | Tinyboom | hyperChipmunk: wth is a møøse? :pø |
| 04:45.18 | Seerah | ~moose |
| 04:45.19 | purl | methinks moose is elg |
| 04:45.20 | Xinhuan | aestil: you must manually right click on the corpse (no other way) in order to open the loot window |
| 04:45.29 | hyperChipmunk | ~console Tinyboom |
| 04:45.30 | purl | ACTION gives Tinyboom the consolation moose |
| 04:45.36 | Tinyboom | lol |
| 04:45.44 | Nandini | elg bit your sister? |
| 04:45.53 | Seerah | ~elg |
| 04:45.53 | purl | methinks elg is that freak in new mexico, or a yak herder at heart |
| 04:46.07 | Xinhuan | aestil: the restriction is mainly to prevent botting |
| 04:46.23 | Ellipsis | ~xinhuan |
| 04:46.24 | Xinhuan | so you will need to tell your tanks to move around slightly as kael weapons die |
| 04:46.42 | Kaelten | ~evil Ellipsis |
| 04:46.49 | Seerah | I was gonna do that! |
| 04:46.49 | Kaelten | bah purl is useless |
| 04:46.55 | Seerah | sigh |
| 04:47.01 | Xinhuan | he got spammed out |
| 04:47.03 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 04:47.06 | Nandini | it seems that ckknight responds to ~evil at least |
| 04:47.12 | Seerah | haha |
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| 04:47.36 | ckknight | I don't believe in good and evil, it's all perspective as far as I'm concerned |
| 04:47.58 | Ellipsis | I'm with the dark side...hey, they offered cookies! >_> |
| 04:48.03 | Nandini | hmm... have you read "Ten Signs You Might Be A Sociopath"? |
| 04:48.19 | Seerah | as much as I would enjoy going off on a tangent about that, ck, I must get up early in the morning to go to the dentist :( :( |
| 04:48.26 | Kaelten | bah, you can just say that on the spectrum of good an evil your bellcurve is slightly higher than others |
| 04:48.29 | Seerah | nn all |
| 04:48.30 | ckknight | the dark side's not without its charm |
| 04:48.33 | Ellipsis | that's what she said, Kaelten |
| 04:48.40 | Tinyboom | ~lart dentists |
| 04:48.40 | purl | changes dentists's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 04:48.42 | Seerah | lol ellipsis |
| 04:48.44 | Xinhuan | did you know Robert Jordan passed away 2 weeks ago? :( |
| 04:48.50 | ckknight | Kaelten: higher? |
| 04:48.52 | Ellipsis | who? |
| 04:48.55 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: yep |
| 04:48.56 | hyperChipmunk | Xinhuan: no way |
| 04:49.05 | hyperChipmunk | !$#% |
| 04:49.05 | Xinhuan | author of Wheel of Time series |
| 04:49.09 | Tinyboom | ~Robert Jordan |
| 04:49.12 | Ellipsis | oh yeah, heard about that |
| 04:49.13 | hyperChipmunk | dude, he better have finished |
| 04:49.16 | Ellipsis | he didn't |
| 04:49.17 | ckknight | Kaelten: how do you mean higher? bell curves go left and right |
| 04:49.17 | Nandini | ckknight, your curve has longer tails :) |
| 04:49.18 | Xinhuan | the news spread like wildfire the day he died |
| 04:49.19 | Kaelten | ckknight: more to the point you accept a different standard deviation range and your mean point may be slightly off kilter |
| 04:49.26 | hyperChipmunk | that pisses me off |
| 04:49.29 | Ellipsis | that's what SHE said |
| 04:49.32 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 04:49.41 | Xinhuan | you can check up wikipedia on his last book status or something |
| 04:49.51 | Xinhuan | hiw wife will finish the book for him |
| 04:50.01 | Xinhuan | he has told his wife the plot details and stuff |
| 04:50.09 | Ellipsis | hey, we suffered through it with Douglas Adams - you fantasy readers get to deal with it now |
| 04:50.34 | Kaelten | ya I'll be sad when David Eddings passes away |
| 04:50.41 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ i was distraught about dna, too |
| 04:50.44 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: i hear that |
| 04:50.58 | Ellipsis | not gonna lie, I cried at the end of Salmon of Doubt =[ |
| 04:50.59 | Kaelten | he's getting pretty old too, so it'll be sooner rather than later |
| 04:51.20 | hyperChipmunk | his wife writes with him, though; know if she's younger? |
| 04:51.27 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 04:51.28 | gnorlish | george rr martin is the only author i keep up with now |
| 04:51.29 | Kaelten | hrm not sure |
| 04:51.29 | Ellipsis | that's horrible |
| 04:51.37 | Kaelten | I know that he's going to be 80 in a few years |
| 04:51.38 | hyperChipmunk | ~wiki Leigh Eddings |
| 04:51.44 | hyperChipmunk | ~wiki David Eddings |
| 04:51.54 | Kaelten | oh god she's dead already |
| 04:51.59 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 04:52.01 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:52.10 | Tinyboom | lol |
| 04:52.13 | Kaelten | she died in febuary |
| 04:52.13 | Xinhuan | you didn't know? |
| 04:52.25 | hyperChipmunk | nice she doesn't even get her own wiki page |
| 04:52.33 | ckknight | everyone dies eventually |
| 04:52.48 | Kaelten | ya she was younger than he was, but she had a series of strokes |
| 04:52.57 | hyperChipmunk | what a ho-bag |
| 04:53.10 | Ellipsis | how dare she |
| 04:53.14 | hyperChipmunk | I kno! |
| 04:53.33 | gnorlish | any of you read "The Losers" by david eddings |
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| 04:53.56 | Kaelten | nope, skipped the losers and his other old one |
| 04:53.59 | gnorlish | i bought a ton of used books one summer |
| 04:54.09 | gnorlish | by him, and terry brooks, and robert jordan, etc |
| 04:54.15 | gnorlish | and i expected it to be fantasy |
| 04:54.18 | Cairenn | well shit! I didn't know that! |
| 04:54.19 | gnorlish | but it's just a messed up book |
| 04:54.20 | Paene | When calling button:SetScript("OnClick", function() end) is there a way to get whether it was a left, middle, or right click? It says that an argument is passed when using xml, but I'm not sure where I would pass it in the lua version. Wowwiki doesn't seem to have anything about it for lua. |
| 04:54.20 | hyperChipmunk | "On January 26th, 2007 it was reported that Eddings accidentally burned about a quarter of his office, next door to his house, along with his Excalibur sports car, and the original manuscripts for most of his novels. He was flushing the fuel tank of the car with water when he lit a piece of paper and threw into the puddle to test if it was still flammable" |
| 04:54.26 | Kaelten | ya I saw that |
| 04:54.29 | Cairenn | :( |
| 04:54.41 | Ellipsis | ...fail |
| 04:54.51 | Cairenn | (about Leigh) |
| 04:54.53 | hyperChipmunk | sounds like he's shootin' to go out with a darwin award |
| 04:54.54 | Kaelten | heh didn't realize David Farland was a pseudonym |
| 04:55.00 | Kaelten | Cairenn: :( |
| 04:55.09 | Cairenn | that bites! |
| 04:55.19 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, i didn't know that either >8( |
| 04:55.46 | nogudnik | Paene: try calling |
| 04:55.54 | Kaelten | oh shit there is going to be a runelords movie! |
| 04:55.55 | Kaelten | hell ya |
| 04:56.17 | Nefarion | Paene, it should be passed in Lua just fine |
| 04:56.23 | nogudnik | sorry ... try comparing "LeftButton", "RightButton" as the argument. |
| 04:57.12 | Paene | do I need to change function() to function(arg1) ? |
| 04:57.12 | orionshock | all else fails put in a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAM:AddMessage(button) |
| 04:57.12 | Paene | good call orion |
| 04:57.12 | Paene | gonna try that |
| 04:57.12 | orionshock | trial and error :D |
| 04:57.32 | orionshock | that's how most of my learning process is wtih programing |
| 04:58.13 | Nandini | yeah, we're kind of limited to that with an API whose only sparse documentation comes from its users |
| 04:58.51 | Nandini | the only reason i can think of that blizzard doesn't publish a manual is that there isn't one, which would explain a lot of the quirky and sometimes wrong behavior in the UI |
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| 04:59.15 | Nefarion | If I use color codes ("|cCOLOR") in an addon title that's uploaded to the SVN, will the color codes appear on the file lists at the site and WAU or is it omitted? |
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| 04:59.23 | Ellipsis | if they published docs, then people would expect them to live up to them, or at least maintain the documentation |
| 04:59.26 | orionshock | iirc except with what slouken? says directly it was all trial and error , thus wowwiki was made :D |
| 04:59.35 | Ellipsis | Blizz doesn't want that burden on top of what they already have |
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| 05:00.08 | Nandini | which leads me to believe they do not even document it for their own use internally |
| 05:00.29 | Ellipsis | I doubt they do |
| 05:00.42 | orionshock | me thinks they do... but don't tell us :D |
| 05:01.07 | Ellipsis | some of the Lua code at least is so messed up that if anyone even tried to write docs for it they'd go "wait, wtf were we smoking?" and rewrite the whole thing (or at least fix the major bugs) |
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| 05:01.27 | orionshock | btw anyone else experiencing xloot 's windows extending to the edge of the screen, either right or down? |
| 05:01.38 | Nandini | yes, they seem to have skipped establishing real conventions for pretty much all their development |
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| 05:01.50 | Nandini | just look at the crazy file structure in the MPQs |
| 05:02.10 | Ellipsis | orionshock, I've heard that happens the first time you loot after logging in |
| 05:02.11 | hyperChipmunk | mpq is like 10 years old |
| 05:02.51 | Nandini | yes, but seriously, how difficult is it for a build manager to see, oh you put this texture called KEN'S TEST TEXTURE in its own folder in a place completely apart from related textures |
| 05:03.10 | orionshock | it's happening on every loot |
| 05:03.35 | Nandini | i meant look at how crazily disorganized the files within the MPQ archives are |
| 05:04.36 | Firedancer | orion that happened to me...I deleted the saved vars for xloot and the layout-cache info (if there was any) and it went away. no clue why it started or why doint that fixed it, but it did |
| 05:04.49 | Firedancer | and I have it set to hide when sutolooting, but it never does anymore ;p |
| 05:04.54 | Firedancer | autolooting* |
| 05:04.59 | orionshock | o.O |
| 05:05.01 | orionshock | XLoot-0.9.49800\XLootOptions.lua:342: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil) |
| 05:05.34 | Paene | I thought u could call CastSpellByName() from a button? |
| 05:05.41 | orionshock | Paene: no |
| 05:06.01 | Paene | So how do you make a button cast a spell? |
| 05:06.05 | orionshock | you have to set a bunch of attributes and junk |
| 05:06.10 | Paene | is that what all that hooking stuff is? |
| 05:06.20 | orionshock | no |
| 05:06.36 | orionshock | ~wowwiki SecureActionButton |
| 05:06.48 | orionshock | .... |
| 05:06.50 | Paene | lol |
| 05:07.11 | Paene | the frame is inheriting the SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 05:07.18 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 05:07.25 | CIA-12 | 03damjau * r51469 10AvionComicMedia/ (Sounds/list.lua Textures/list.lua): AvionComicMedia - fix miss typo, change AvionMedia -> AvionComicMedia |
| 05:07.38 | Zhinjio | hey guys... quick question |
| 05:07.58 | Nefarion | Taking a long time to type that quick question? |
| 05:08.00 | Nefarion | =P |
| 05:08.01 | orionshock | ~asktoask |
| 05:08.02 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 05:08.18 | Nandini | yes, now we will all ignore your question! buahahahaha |
| 05:08.18 | Zhinjio | it looks like Ace's default handling for slash commands makes the argument-less command push out the help text. Is there a way to overrride that and have the "help" argument produce that instead? |
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| 05:08.44 | orionshock | don't set a help text? |
| 05:08.48 | Nandini | Zhinjio: what would you have the argument-less command do then? |
| 05:08.55 | Zhinjio | toggle my main frame |
| 05:09.04 | Zhinjio | which is how the pre-Ace version works |
| 05:09.19 | Zhinjio | I'd like to attempt to be as backwards (compatible) as I can. heh |
| 05:09.25 | Nefarion | You could always handle your slash-commands the old-fashioned way I guess. |
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| 05:11.35 | Ellipsis | k I think it's time for bed now |
| 05:11.39 | Ellipsis | nn folks <3 |
| 05:11.48 | Zhinjio | G"night. |
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| 05:12.38 | CIA-12 | 03damjau * r51470 10beql/options.lua: beql: - fix name, desc in ColorHeaderFailed option |
| 05:12.38 | Nandini | when you use registerchatcommand, you can probably register it for something other than your usual options table |
| 05:12.59 | orionshock | why does one want to be backwards compatible with a frame work that for all purposes is grandfatherd |
| 05:14.16 | Zhinjio | I prefer not to disrupt the user experience if its at all possible. If it isn't, so be it. |
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| 05:15.43 | Nandini | what happens if the only thing you put in the options table passed to registerchatcommand is an execute type with no name that opens your GUI? |
| 05:16.20 | Wobin | Zhinjio: <3 |
| 05:16.22 | orionshock | Nandini: that prolly would do it |
| 05:16.33 | Zhinjio | I thought it was the piece outside the {} block that determined what the argument to the command was. can I make it nil? hmm. I'll try. |
| 05:16.54 | Paene | orionshock: thanks for the link, it's working now...talk about a pain in the butt |
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| 05:17.16 | orionshock | if it wasn't then you arn't coding UI for blizzard :D |
| 05:17.32 | Paene | lol |
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| 05:18.33 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51471 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.de.lua: |
| 05:18.33 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 05:18.33 | CIA-12 | - German update |
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| 05:20.01 | Zhinjio | Feh: "name" cannot be a zero length string |
| 05:20.26 | ckknight | message = false |
| 05:20.28 | ckknight | maybe |
| 05:21.20 | Nandini | Zhinjio, if you do :RegisterChatCommand("/blah", {type = 'execute', func = OpenGUIWindow()}) or something similar, what happens? |
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| 05:22.46 | Nandini | it's probably not a valid options table :/ |
| 05:23.22 | ckknight | don't do parentheses |
| 05:23.40 | ckknight | :RegisterChatCommand("/blah", {type = 'execute', func = OpenGUIWindow}) |
| 05:25.36 | Nefarion | addong the parenthesis will attempt to set the called function equal to the return value of OpenGUIWindow, rather than OpenGUIWindow itself. you're setting variable equality there, which is what functions are really. |
| 05:25.59 | Zhinjio | tried name=false, tried "nil" for the option name. none of that works. name=nil. |
| 05:26.12 | Zhinjio | I think maybe I'm just going to have to make my users suffer the change. |
| 05:26.13 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 05:26.15 | orionshock | give it a name |
| 05:26.37 | orionshock | i think it prints out the description imho |
| 05:27.00 | Nandini | yeah it would probably still just throw the about command in there |
| 05:27.47 | Nandini | maybe it's time i actually pay for a wow account again so i can do testing when i want and not just when my friends are offline. heheh |
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| 05:28.42 | orionshock | they do take pay bpal |
| 05:28.51 | orionshock | *they do take pay pal |
| 05:29.12 | Nandini | yes and i have all my Gomez Peer money sitting in my paypal account doing nothing but earning a few pennies of interest |
| 05:30.17 | Nandini | i'm just afraid if i reactivate my account i will spend too much time playing again |
| 05:30.37 | Wobin | It's a risk you may have to take |
| 05:30.58 | Nandini | true, the most fascinating characters are always the ones who embrace their addictions |
| 05:30.58 | orionshock | Troll Roof Stalker ? ... i sersiously didn't believe people when they said that they put them in the game |
| 05:31.22 | Paene | gnite all |
| 05:31.25 | Paene | thanks for the help |
| 05:31.52 | Nandini | cya Paene |
| 05:32.18 | Nandini | orion: are those the stealthed dudes in org? |
| 05:32.30 | orionshock | aye they are that |
| 05:33.03 | Zhinjio | ckknight (and all) ... I was hoping not to have to abandon the Ace2 options table, since I like the fact that the help is all automated and stuff. I was hoping there'd be some easy override to that default behavior though. |
| 05:33.08 | Zhinjio | anyway, it sounds like there isn't. |
| 05:33.31 | Wobin | Zhinjio: Not afaik |
| 05:33.32 | Zhinjio | I don't want to give up the cool menus and eventually, dewdrop/waterfall/rock/paper/scissors or whatever is next compatibility |
| 05:33.34 | ckknight | yea, there's not |
| 05:33.42 | Wobin | Or at least not yet |
| 05:34.06 | Nandini | just make your gui options something obvious like config or gui |
| 05:34.16 | Wobin | Zhinjio: You could have /addon help trigger whatever help you want though |
| 05:34.34 | Nandini | typing /blah config or /blah gui is still pretty intuitive |
| 05:34.38 | ckknight | Zhinjio: an important thing to realize is that consistency across projects is nice, if one addon does something special when you don't supply text but everything else does what you expect, it causes cognitive dissonance |
| 05:35.09 | Nandini | yes, which is why i miss console configuration in rock :( |
| 05:35.35 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I completely agree. Its a tradeoff between keeping what people are used to, and keeping to a standard that goes across many addons. |
| 05:35.53 | ckknight | Nandini: I'll likely add a specialized scripting mechanism for that |
| 05:35.55 | ckknight | for macro stuff (i.e. not general usage) |
| 05:36.05 | ckknight | that's really where console is nice: scriptability |
| 05:36.09 | ckknight | outside of that, not so much |
| 05:36.38 | Nandini | true, making a macro that is /pit raid40 would be handy for switching profiles to my AV layout |
| 05:36.51 | orionshock | eww |
| 05:37.05 | Nandini | even BETTER than having to type out the actual options, so i like the scripting idea |
| 05:37.07 | orionshock | pit bull with a 40man raid setup was always nasty for me.. couldn't get it to look right |
| 05:37.23 | ckknight | Nandini: that's unlikely |
| 05:37.43 | Nandini | oh, perhaps i misunderstood what you meant by macro and scriptable |
| 05:37.56 | ckknight | Nandini: it'd likely be something like /rock pitbull->profile->choose->raid40 |
| 05:38.05 | ckknight | or whatever it becomes |
| 05:38.08 | kadrahil | are auctioneer's saved variables global or per character? |
| 05:38.09 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 05:38.16 | ckknight | I want it to be forgiving and flexible |
| 05:38.19 | orionshock | kadrahil: global iirc |
| 05:38.22 | Nandini | that sounds pretty much like the way console presents options now |
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| 05:38.36 | Nandini | (ace2 console i mean) |
| 05:38.37 | Ellipsis | I can't sleeps =[ |
| 05:38.49 | ckknight | Nandini: yea, but it'll go by name instead of key |
| 05:39.16 | ckknight | and be forgiving |
| 05:39.16 | ckknight | i.e. do a search instead of an exact match |
| 05:39.16 | ckknight | so prof would probably work as well as profile |
| 05:39.16 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 05:39.42 | Nandini | you meant having some command-line-like options for use in actual game macros? |
| 05:39.56 | Nandini | so i could throw it on an action button |
| 05:40.05 | Wobin | ckknight: that's what acetab was good for |
| 05:40.14 | Tem|Sleep | Inconsistent > Consistently bad imo |
| 05:40.30 | ckknight | Wobin: this is for scripting usage, not for general usage |
| 05:40.59 | Nandini | so it would not actually present options, it would just accept them for settings |
| 05:40.59 | Wobin | ah, yeah that would help in keeping down macro sizes |
| 05:41.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:41.59 | ckknight | so you'd figure out what you want to change beforehand and type it into your macro |
| 05:42.18 | Nandini | like /rock pit pro cho r40 |
| 05:42.22 | hyperChipmunk | so just an abstracted foo = LibStub("Whatever").config /run foo.option1 = true |
| 05:42.55 | ckknight | something like /script myvar = not myvar; /rock pit prof cho ${myvar and "Thing" or "Otherthing"} |
| 05:43.00 | ckknight | *shrug* |
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| 05:43.56 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: yea, but often times it's not that clean |
| 05:44.05 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 05:44.14 | hyperChipmunk | hence the need for abstraction |
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| 05:45.31 | tronned | is it possible to access a variable created by a mod: (mod.defaults) declaration? |
| 05:46.25 | hyperChipmunk | tronned: the default or the value it has? |
| 05:46.33 | tronned | the value it has |
| 05:46.40 | hyperChipmunk | the set value is probably in whatever the SavedVariable is |
| 05:46.45 | tronned | for some reason, i can't retrieve it |
| 05:47.02 | tronned | simpleMinimap sets self.db.profile.framePos[frame] = { this.smmMover:GetCenter() } |
| 05:47.22 | hyperChipmunk | self.db is generally the SavedVariable entry in the toc |
| 05:47.27 | tronned | self: is local mod = simpleMinimap:NewModule("movers", "AceEvent-2.0") |
| 05:48.10 | tronned | i see the value in the SavedVariables, but simpleMinimap.db.profile.framePos returns nil errors |
| 05:48.13 | Nandini | tronned: if you know the name of the frame, you should be able to get its coordinates back |
| 05:48.56 | tronned | I do, but I am trying to re-center it, then re-set it coordinates in the savedvariable .lua |
| 05:49.12 | tronned | re-center it by a :SetPoint |
| 05:49.24 | Nandini | why not just type the coords into the SV file? |
| 05:49.54 | tronned | i'm trying to, lol ... what i thought was the field, is returning nil errors |
| 05:50.12 | Nandini | which frame? |
| 05:50.19 | tronned | QuestTimerFrame |
| 05:50.31 | hyperChipmunk | are tehy in the layout-cache.text? |
| 05:50.35 | hyperChipmunk | txt* |
| 05:51.06 | Nandini | if you have never actually moved the quest timer frame manually, it may not have saved any position for it |
| 05:51.30 | tronned | it has the original position, fromt he defaults in the savedvariables |
| 05:51.39 | tronned | i can re-center the frame fine |
| 05:51.54 | tronned | but if i /rl, it simple re-reads the savedvariables and goes right back |
| 05:52.06 | Nandini | oh, i had that problem too |
| 05:52.06 | tronned | hence, trying to write the new coords to the savedvariables lua |
| 05:52.14 | Nandini | hang on a sec, let me remember what i did |
| 05:52.32 | Nandini | turn on movers, move the frame, turn off movers, log out, log back in |
| 05:52.36 | tronned | the defaults are saved from mod: declaration |
| 05:53.07 | tronned | mod.defaults = { enabled = false, alpha = 0.4, framePos = {} } |
| 05:53.22 | hyperChipmunk | you have to either logout when manually modifying SVs or save them between the time they're written after /rl but before they're read |
| 05:53.24 | tronned | then after a dragstop, self.db.profile.framePos[frame] = { this.smmMover:GetCenter() } |
| 05:53.53 | tronned | i can save them fine, i am recentering and setting the new coords on a PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 05:54.08 | Nandini | do you have lockdown enabled? |
| 05:54.15 | tronned | for this field though, i can't reference it to save it |
| 05:54.19 | tronned | it's not enabled |
| 05:54.20 | Ellipsis | tronned, if you want to access something in the SVs table, then just replacing "self.db" with whatever the SV table's name is (hint: check the addon's toc) |
| 05:54.32 | tronned | i call lockdown = false on LEAVING_WORLD |
| 05:54.46 | Ellipsis | so if it was simpleMinimapDB, you could do simpleMinimapDB.profile.framePos[whatever] |
| 05:54.50 | sedatedChipmunk | ()~_~() |
| 05:54.58 | Nandini | just curious, why do you find it necessary to move the quest timer on player_entering_world? |
| 05:55.01 | tronned | isimpleMinimap.db.profile.framePos returns nil |
| 05:55.08 | sedatedChipmunk | nono |
| 05:55.08 | Ellipsis | tronned, did you read what I said |
| 05:55.14 | sedatedChipmunk | SimpleMinimapDB.profile |
| 05:55.18 | tronned | Ellipsis, let me try |
| 05:55.59 | Nandini | .framePos["QuestTimerFrame"] should return a 2 number table for you |
| 05:56.15 | Ellipsis | oh good lord |
| 05:56.22 | Ellipsis | the SVs table for simpleMinimap is smmConfig |
| 05:56.24 | Ellipsis | how intuitive |
| 05:56.46 | Jaxon | Alright, can someone recommend some arena related mods? Stuff for automatic target listing, I don't even know what is out there and the addon names on the SVN are generally rather...random |
| 05:56.51 | Nandini | also, it's under "movers" |
| 05:57.05 | Ellipsis | ok tronned, so instead of trying simpleMinimap.db.* do smmConfig.* |
| 05:57.21 | tronned | trying |
| 05:57.29 | Ellipsis | Jaxon: I think Proximo is the favorite |
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| 05:58.02 | Nandini | i'm still curious why you need to move the frame on PEW |
| 05:58.11 | Jaxon | Ellipsis: I'll check it out, thanks |
| 05:58.55 | tronned | Nandini, for my compilation, I'm detecting a resolution change, and re-centering the CaptureMover, QuestTimerFrame, MinimapCluster, and a couple others after that change |
| 06:01.04 | tronned | smmConfig.db.profile.framePos["CaptureMover"] = { child:GetCenter() } returns "attempt to index field 'profile' (a nil value)" |
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| 06:04.11 | orionshock | tronned: did you specify profile defaults? |
| 06:04.46 | tronned | these are simpleMinimap's db profile fields, that i am trying to set, not mine |
| 06:04.47 | Nandini | simpleMinimap.db.profile["Default"].framePos["CaptureMover"] = { x , y } doesn't work? |
| 06:04.48 | orionshock | because the DB mixin only gives you .db |
| 06:05.52 | Nandini | oh it's saved in the "movers" namespace, from the movers module |
| 06:05.58 | tronned | Nandini, that returns "attempt to index field 'Default' (a nil value)" |
| 06:07.07 | tronned | for self.db.profile.framePos[frame] = { this.smmMover:GetCenter() }, i did a tostring(self) and that returned "movers", but that's it |
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| 06:10.46 | Nandini | how about simpleMinimap.db.namespaces.movers.profile.framePos["CaptureMover"] ? |
| 06:11.36 | orionshock | btw movers is a module |
| 06:11.51 | orionshock | smm:GetModule("movers").db.profile |
| 06:11.55 | orionshock | is the classic method |
| 06:12.22 | Recluse | D= my hearth crashed wow |
| 06:13.54 | tronned | <3 orionshock my original questions was: " is it possible to access a variable created by a mod: (mod.defaults) declaration?" |
| 06:14.07 | tronned | that worked fantastic |
| 06:14.24 | tronned | simpleMinimap:GetModule("movers").db.profile.framePos["CaptureMover"] = { child:GetCenter() } |
| 06:14.28 | Nandini | yup GetModule seems to be an easier way to get the module's namespace |
| 06:14.37 | tronned | that's what I was unclear of |
| 06:15.56 | tronned | i went through every iteration of simpleMinimap.db.profile.xxx i could think of ... learn something new every day ;) |
| 06:23.13 | orionshock | tronned: btw simpleMinimap:GetModule("movers").db.profile.framePos["CaptureMover"] returns an x,y pair |
| 06:24.15 | tronned | orionshock, i know, i posted my thanks above. that's exactly what i am trying to set, is the x,y pair for that frame |
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| 06:38.24 | orionshock | tbh.. im thinking about reWriting Hourglass |
| 06:39.33 | orionshock | make it modular ofc |
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| 06:40.04 | orionshock | Main: make the bar & extra stuff + SCT output, 1st module is Spell CD's, and 2nd itemCD's |
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| 06:41.28 | Nandini | do you imagine that anyone would use one module but not the other? |
| 06:41.33 | tronned | I love Hourglass |
| 06:41.55 | Nandini | or use neither of them? |
| 06:42.55 | Nandini | personally, i would always enable both because i need to know trinket cooldowns and ability cooldowns |
| 06:43.53 | Nandini | but if you're just modularizing it for code separation, that makes sense |
| 06:45.07 | Nandini | also, could you forsee anyone adding any further functionality by writing another module? |
| 06:45.58 | Nandini | (maybe they could add custom animations or something via modules if you supported it) |
| 06:46.25 | orionshock | Nandini: modularization is not always for lod, as SMM proves |
| 06:46.34 | orionshock | but sometimes simply fo the sake of sanity |
| 06:46.43 | Nandini | yes, which is why i asked if you were doing it for code separation or for extensability |
| 06:47.00 | Nandini | or both |
| 06:47.05 | orionshock | well candybar is pritty limited IMHO |
| 06:47.14 | orionshock | you can't set a font option from what i can tell |
| 06:47.35 | orionshock | there is only one animation style, then again you could argue that texture can change the animation style |
| 06:47.48 | Nandini | or perhaps someone could implement vertical bars |
| 06:47.54 | orionshock | there is that |
| 06:48.11 | Nandini | or stacking bars, or spacing bars, or grouping bars |
| 06:48.13 | orionshock | also someone sugested showing the CD as just the spell icon and not a bar |
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| 06:48.38 | Nandini | sort of like the blizzard buff frames? |
| 06:48.44 | orionshock | aye |
| 06:48.46 | tronned | but horizontal maybe? |
| 06:49.12 | orionshock | ay |
| 06:49.19 | orionshock | so a 3rd module - display |
| 06:49.25 | tronned | that would be awesome |
| 06:49.43 | Nandini | so there are lots of options for layout and display, making it extensible via modules could allow you or others to build new ones in later |
| 06:50.00 | tronned | spell name (2:13) [ :) ] |
| 06:50.09 | tronned | [ :) ] = spell icon, lol |
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| 06:50.19 | Nandini | no more smiling for 2 minutes! |
| 06:50.29 | orionshock | one of the things i want to keep consistant tho is the origional idea behind Hourglass |
| 06:50.32 | orionshock | Simplicity |
| 06:50.51 | Astika | please do, i love it's minimalistic approach |
| 06:50.53 | Astika | *its |
| 06:50.58 | orionshock | i don't want another horrific mess like CDT2 |
| 06:51.10 | Nandini | then if you are to be the determinant of simplicity, extensibility via modules would more easily allow others to ugly-fy your work :P |
| 06:51.28 | orionshock | true.. |
| 06:51.51 | orionshock | but that's their problem not mine |
| 06:52.19 | Nandini | so, you write a simple, understated layout module and allow others to ugly it up by writing their own |
| 06:52.33 | Astika | rut row, wife came downstairs, and i got the evil eye. 2 of them. i must /flee! |
| 06:52.40 | Nandini | if someone requests "but i want xyz" you can say "write a module to do that" |
| 06:52.50 | orionshock | could |
| 06:53.03 | Astika | thanks again for all of your help: orion, Nandini, Ellipsis ... much appreciated |
| 06:53.07 | orionshock | but you see, thats the big differnce between an Author and a Developer |
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| 06:53.20 | orionshock | Authors deal with the public, developers don't |
| 06:53.21 | Nandini | but do you want them to spoil the good name of your addon by posting screenshots of it all ugly-fied by their modules? |
| 06:53.43 | orionshock | ive got the personality to be both.. |
| 06:54.17 | orionshock | Nandini: i guess the real point would be to write it in such a way that it cannot be uglifyied easily |
| 06:54.50 | Nandini | in that case, it might be best to not use modules, or to at least do all the layout in your main chunk |
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| 06:55.12 | Nandini | just have the modules snag events and such |
| 06:55.29 | orionshock | Idealy yes |
| 06:56.03 | orionshock | tbh if we leave layout in the main chunk, and let the modules handle the rest, then it could be cross ported to a Dot Timer easily ... |
| 06:56.07 | Nandini | i'm not sure a whole lot of code would be left to put in the modules |
| 06:56.08 | orionshock | >.> sorta |
| 06:56.20 | Nandini | but i've never really looked inside that kind of an addon to see how much work it is |
| 06:56.46 | Nandini | you can always start with it in modules to keep yourself organized |
| 06:57.01 | Nandini | and if you later find that using modules creates more overhead than is necessary, move the code inside |
| 06:58.04 | Nandini | that would probably be easier than doing the reverse |
| 07:00.57 | ckknight | orionshock: I'm a chief architect |
| 07:01.11 | orionshock | lol, project manager |
| 07:01.16 | Nandini | build me a mcmansion please :) |
| 07:01.22 | ckknight | right, only it sounds cooler |
| 07:01.36 | orionshock | but is missleading |
| 07:01.46 | ckknight | I don't see how |
| 07:02.26 | orionshock | and actualy ck not even that, your an author in practice, last time i checked ... there was no one else working on the Rock-Framework besides you :D |
| 07:02.38 | ckknight | hey, one other person has |
| 07:02.40 | ckknight | Kaelten. |
| 07:02.42 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:02.45 | orionshock | :D |
| 07:03.00 | orionshock | ... who is leading the Ace3 project/ |
| 07:03.11 | orionshock | dare i say mikk? |
| 07:03.12 | ckknight | he removed some bad code in Rock |
| 07:03.23 | ckknight | Kaelten, that is |
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| 07:03.27 | ramoz | ckknight made bad code - wooo! |
| 07:03.40 | ckknight | ramoz: only in response to what I saw as bad code |
| 07:03.45 | ckknight | two wrongs make a right. |
| 07:04.01 | orionshock | no ck, 3 lefts make a right |
| 07:04.11 | ckknight | I knew you were going to say that |
| 07:04.30 | Nandini | anyways, besides the fact that not all modules are meant as LOD "plugins", they seem to allow you to enable or disable large amounts of code easily, would your addon have a need to do that? |
| 07:04.30 | ckknight | and because of me knowing, it just made you look dumb, repeating clichés |
| 07:04.31 | ckknight | so, sorry. |
| 07:04.35 | orionshock | 2 wrongs just make you both look like idiots ^.^ |
| 07:05.13 | orionshock | Nandini: i only say modular due to the idea that with in the hourglass thread many did not care for item/bag cd's |
| 07:05.34 | Nandini | i can't imagine someone not caring about their trinket cooldowns |
| 07:05.52 | Nandini | but i suppose it is possible, especially for people who don't have trinkets yet :) |
| 07:06.49 | Nandini | i suppose they might only want to see spell/ability cooldowns in the hourglass bars tho, that makes sense |
| 07:07.08 | Nandini | i don't want a giant hearthstone timer next to my cyclone timer |
| 07:08.42 | Nandini | but i might still want to see the CD on my trinkets |
| 07:09.20 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r51472 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 07:11.26 | Nandini | how about a module to estimate pvp opponents' spell/ability cooldowns? another good example of something you might want to enable or disable |
| 07:12.01 | orionshock | Nandini: that belongs in something more like antaganist |
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| 07:12.47 | Nandini | why should it not belong in hourglass? |
| 07:13.10 | orionshock | cuz im not that good |
| 07:13.32 | Nandini | but perhaps someone else might write a module for it to do that, using your simple and beautiful layout options |
| 07:13.42 | orionshock | true |
| 07:13.46 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r51473 10EveryQuest/ (Core.lua Everyquest.lua): EveryQuest: - Fixed properties |
| 07:14.12 | Nandini | someone might make a module to track tradeskill cooldowns |
| 07:14.19 | orionshock | im barly gona be able to code this leta lone an ecb/cd |
| 07:14.49 | Hjalte | Isn't it wrong to call the non-rock fubar for fubar2? That will make some people download it just because they think it's newer. |
| 07:16.20 | Nandini | wrong is a pretty strong value judgement, but if you feel strongly about it, talk to the authors who named it that |
| 07:16.21 | Wobin | Isn't it Fubar 3 though? |
| 07:16.22 | orionshock | Hjalte: lesser of 2 evils |
| 07:16.31 | Wobin | The rock version |
| 07:16.50 | Hjalte | Nandini, I'm just asking, not judging. |
| 07:16.54 | orionshock | Hjalte: read the forum thread about it... |
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| 07:19.23 | Nandini | i don't know, when i read the description for FuBar2, i understood it to mean "the second fubar" rather than "Fubar-2.0" |
| 07:20.05 | Nandini | perhaps they should have named it FuBarJr or FuBarAce2 (although there was controversy over the ace part of cartoace too, i think) |
| 07:20.16 | Nandini | or FuBarClassic |
| 07:20.35 | orionshock | FuBarClassic sounds good |
| 07:20.36 | Nandini | i don't think FuBar2 is wrong though |
| 07:20.51 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.03 | Nandini | hopefully people will look at the description of any addon before they install it |
| 07:21.28 | do3mca | whats wrong with fubar-ace, if its the acified version of fubar? |
| 07:21.34 | do3mca | honestly |
| 07:21.41 | Nandini | if not, that's their fault. i mean, is it wrong to call Parrot "Parrot" since people might wrongly assume it is an addon to manage their non-combat pets? |
| 07:21.45 | do3mca | fubar and fubar-2.0 - i dont know which one to install |
| 07:22.08 | do3mca | its not clear from the descriptions either why there are two of them |
| 07:22.38 | Nandini | do you personally have a problem understanding the difference? |
| 07:22.50 | orionshock | reason we want to leave -Ace- off the name is to avoid creating unwanted and annoying fanbois in the near future |
| 07:22.59 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.02 | do3mca | Nandini: yes. |
| 07:23.11 | Hjalte | For people who doesnt know the difference between ace and rock, it might not help them all that much just to read the description. |
| 07:23.15 | Nandini | then perhaps when you come across someone who does have trouble understanding the difference, you will kindly explain it to them |
| 07:23.18 | do3mca | orionshock: i noticed there is quite some religious wars. :) |
| 07:23.41 | do3mca | Nandini: fubar-2 is the ace version of fubar? |
| 07:24.03 | do3mca | orionshock: however(!) i dont see the trouble using -ace tags in the repository. |
| 07:24.15 | Nandini | it's not an "ace version" except for the fact that it relies on ace libraries, as far as i know, it's just a different version of fubar that has been branched off |
| 07:24.19 | do3mca | orionshock: if its in the repository i consider it *somewhat* official |
| 07:24.55 | do3mca | maybe wrong wording, how to explain *mh* |
| 07:24.59 | Nandini | i can put an addon in the repository that mails all your gold to me next time you visit a mailbox, that doesn't make it official or endorsed by anyone here |
| 07:25.38 | do3mca | Nandini: io doubt we're playing on the same realm :^), but yes, i get what you say. |
| 07:26.03 | do3mca | which -btw- would might make it more efficient to change the way the repository works |
| 07:26.39 | cryogen | the best thing would have been to give it a completely new name :p |
| 07:26.40 | do3mca | but that again would require someone to use atleast some time to audit incoming changes |
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| 07:27.34 | Nandini | or to require some sort of peer review before giving out new svn accounts |
| 07:27.58 | do3mca | yes. |
| 07:28.42 | Nandini | still, i like the generous and open nature of it now, it has been very helpful for me in learning |
| 07:28.44 | do3mca | there are so many ways to work with modern version control systems that its almost unbelievable that such a repository with nontrusted access exist |
| 07:29.09 | do3mca | or |
| 07:29.25 | Nandini | i'd say it's unbelievably good that enough trust exists in the community |
| 07:30.03 | do3mca | Nandini: as someone whos earning money with computers all my life i'd say: its unbelievably stupid. ;-) |
| 07:30.29 | do3mca | anyway, what i meant to say is not that untrusted write access is bad, but that under the ace umbrella these changes are propagated unaudited to the users. |
| 07:31.07 | Nandini | very little money (if any) is earned from anyone's endeavors here, so i suppose that makes it a little less stupid, and a little more affordable time-wise |
| 07:31.27 | do3mca | i mean, beat me. iam using wau, that curses.com updater and the german mobmap updater |
| 07:31.39 | do3mca | each of'em can steal probably some data from my notebook |
| 07:31.49 | do3mca | so its incredibly stupid of me, but... ;-) |
| 07:32.19 | do3mca | Nandini: i guess the community would benefit of some kind of sourceforge for wow-related stuff. :-P |
| 07:32.25 | Nargiddley | well those don't come off the svn, and commiting executables is restricted |
| 07:32.26 | Nandini | it's true something catastrophic could happen to cause most users to lose their trust in the wowace community |
| 07:32.30 | ckknight | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/59953 |
| 07:33.06 | do3mca | Nargiddley: that was a side comment not related to ace, but to stupidity of users. sorry, didnt make the context switch clear. :) |
| 07:33.10 | Nargiddley | ah |
| 07:34.07 | do3mca | <- incredibly stupid, too. :-P |
| 07:34.55 | Nandini | just curious, do the bat and sh files for addons with unpackable LOD modules get scrubbed when they're committed? |
| 07:35.07 | Nandini | or are they made from the xml file? |
| 07:35.35 | Nandini | ahh it looks like they're build from the xml, that's cool |
| 07:35.54 | neenee | My new interface: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3569/wowscrnshot100907093256jg1.jpg =] |
| 07:35.57 | Nargiddley | commiting those file types is resitrcted anyway, not many people can |
| 07:36.30 | do3mca | ckknight: thats some kind of satire, right? |
| 07:36.39 | Nandini | you've never read the onion? :) |
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| 07:36.53 | do3mca | nah, cant know everything. :) |
| 07:36.54 | galaxynet__ | jesus is my savior |
| 07:36.58 | galaxynet__ | my guiding light |
| 07:37.30 | do3mca | Nandini: what i fear most from americans is that they possibly could mean such things serious. :) |
| 07:37.38 | omega | neenee: whoa, oldskool |
| 07:37.42 | neenee | :) |
| 07:37.51 | omega | it like you almost manage to make it look like plain wow |
| 07:37.52 | neenee | Yesterday I wiped all my WTF/Addons |
| 07:38.08 | Nandini | do3mca: at least we're lucky enough to be able to say some of these things here without going to jail :) |
| 07:38.11 | neenee | And now my addons use about 7MB instead of 20-ish |
| 07:38.16 | do3mca | Nandini: gotcha :( |
| 07:38.19 | neenee | And loading is faster and it's not half bad :) |
| 07:38.19 | galaxynet__ | what is wowace? |
| 07:38.24 | galaxynet__ | what is wowace? |
| 07:38.28 | neenee | It takes some time to get used to healing though |
| 07:38.29 | omega | neenee: heresay! |
| 07:38.34 | do3mca | neenee: is there any beside skinner? |
| 07:38.41 | neenee | skinner? |
| 07:38.41 | do3mca | neenee: and what - youre > 40 without ANY key? |
| 07:38.42 | galaxynet__ | what is wowace? |
| 07:38.45 | neenee | I don't use skinner |
| 07:39.06 | neenee | do3mca, I am not sure what you mean 'without ANY key?' |
| 07:39.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@c211-30-198-135.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] by ckknight |
| 07:39.09 | *** kick/#wowace [galaxynet__!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 07:39.21 | do3mca | the only thing very different i see are the bags |
| 07:39.29 | do3mca | neenee: key. the thing you use to unlock doors |
| 07:39.34 | do3mca | you dont have a keybag there |
| 07:39.41 | neenee | Er, indeed |
| 07:39.43 | neenee | I don't have keys |
| 07:39.56 | neenee | I'm level 23 |
| 07:40.02 | orionshock | lol @ galaxynet |
| 07:40.04 | neenee | But my other characters have keys |
| 07:40.06 | do3mca | 0.20.40. |
| 07:40.07 | do3mca | ah! |
| 07:40.20 | Nandini | i don't think i carried any keys until i was in outland, except ones i needed temporarily for questss |
| 07:41.10 | Nandini | maybe i had a SM key, i don't remember |
| 07:48.33 | winkiller | I got my sm keys at 70 |
| 07:49.43 | neenee | Hm. Does anyone have the Alphamap version posted long ago on the Wowace Forums? |
| 07:49.50 | neenee | It was a version without any support for notes |
| 07:49.53 | neenee | Very very lightweight |
| 07:49.56 | neenee | Just the transparent map |
| 07:50.03 | neenee | I accidentally deleted the zipfile I had of it yesterday |
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| 07:57.25 | clad|sleep | Anyone use Clique with Pitbull? |
| 07:57.45 | Nandini | i have in the past, not recently tho |
| 07:58.04 | cladhaire | Anyone willing to try reproducing this issue for me: http://code.google.com/p/wow-clique/issues/detail?id=75 |
| 07:58.07 | neenee | I used it until recently, but I found I had problems with things not working |
| 07:58.15 | Nandini | and yes, it used to work with party pet frames, i haven't tried it lately |
| 07:58.39 | neenee | Hm. I didn't have that problem. I had the problem of having to select the units I wanted healed sometimes |
| 07:58.45 | neenee | So I went to Click2Cast |
| 07:58.48 | neenee | But now I use nothing. |
| 07:59.31 | cryogen | do3mca: we should do it! |
| 07:59.32 | Nandini | i can't log in now, or i would test it for you, i'm sorry |
| 07:59.42 | cryogen | do3mca: oftc-wowui! |
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| 08:00.27 | Nandini | i do know that it used to work correctly in the past, as i used clique to buff and heal party pets with my druid |
| 08:00.35 | cladhaire | aye |
| 08:00.39 | cladhaire | there's no reason it shouldn't work |
| 08:01.02 | cladhaire | ckknight: ping any reason you could think of for this: http://code.google.com/p/wow-clique/issues/detail?id=75 |
| 08:01.15 | doktoreas | hello everybody |
| 08:01.25 | doktoreas | is there an addon to manage bar like bartender? |
| 08:01.46 | Nandini | well, there is bartender, it is very much like bartender :) |
| 08:01.48 | ckknight | nah, cladhaire, nothing I've done to mess it up |
| 08:01.48 | ckknight | afaik |
| 08:02.10 | doktoreas | Nandini: :i have got some strange issue with bartender |
| 08:02.12 | cladhaire | Aye, but CLique hasn't changed since alpha |
| 08:02.18 | cladhaire | and i know it works with other pet frames |
| 08:02.21 | doktoreas | in the midle of the fight it mess up button |
| 08:02.25 | doktoreas | and clones bar |
| 08:02.30 | cladhaire | not always easy to get a party with pets :P |
| 08:03.51 | Nandini | if you like bartender, you should post the bug about it on the forums so the author can investigate and fix it :) |
| 08:04.43 | Nandini | there are many other action bar addons though, just try searching for "actionbar" and you should find some to try |
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| 08:06.04 | [Ammo] | the additional info leads me to believe it doesn't register the pet frames with the ClickCastFrames table or something |
| 08:06.36 | Nandini | hmm i thought everything got registered for clickcast the same way in PB |
| 08:06.39 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: aye.. the display code does nothing special there, and doesn't reject any entries from the table. |
| 08:07.07 | cladhaire | I assume the pet frames are named. |
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| 08:07.24 | Nandini | perhaps they have names that change if they are disabled and reenabled later |
| 08:07.35 | Nandini | since PB uses such descriptive frame names :P |
| 08:07.48 | Mech0z | Any totally simple castbar without the fancy features like qwartz |
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| 08:08.30 | Nandini | the built-in blizzard cast bar is pretty simple |
| 08:08.40 | vhaarr | cbripoff |
| 08:09.08 | cryogen | i found that playing without a cast bar is nice |
| 08:09.10 | Mech0z | Nandini Can you pull that out to a desidred location? |
| 08:09.18 | cryogen | i just have the cast bar on the player frame in pitbull |
| 08:09.37 | Mech0z | I have one inbuilt in pitbull but I want one in the middle of my screen |
| 08:11.09 | Nandini | i'm sure there's an addon somewhere that can move the built-in castbar |
| 08:11.29 | Nandini | blizzard's cast bar i mean |
| 08:11.32 | Mech0z | Btw do anyone here use antagonist and can tell me that if I see player A cast a cooldown spell, and switch to look at player B, and then back to player A can I then see his cooldowns still? |
| 08:11.39 | Punkie` | fluidframes probably can |
| 08:11.46 | Mech0z | else its pretty useless for anything but duels :/ |
| 08:12.35 | Nandini | cladhaire: my party pet frames are all in Cluster3, Cluster1 is party targets, Cluster2 is party members, Cluster3 is party pets |
| 08:12.57 | cladhaire | okay, not sure what that means :P |
| 08:13.08 | Nandini | let me see if disabling then reenabling them in a different order changes their names |
| 08:13.23 | cladhaire | it really shouldn't |
| 08:13.29 | Nandini | i.e. party pet 1 is PitBullCluster3UnitButton1 |
| 08:13.40 | cladhaire | the issue seems to be with how the pet frames get registered with ClickCastFrames |
| 08:13.45 | cladhaire | but I'm not confident enough to say that |
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| 08:17.08 | Nandini | well the frame names for party pets are always PitBullCluster3UnitButton1 through Button4, even if i enable or disable other "clusters" |
| 08:17.22 | cladhaire | yes |
| 08:17.32 | cladhaire | the issue is whether or not they are in ClickCastFrames |
| 08:17.43 | orionshock | ClickCastFrames - that a table? |
| 08:18.03 | cladhaire | i.e. /dump ClickCastFrames[PitBullCluster3UnitButton1] |
| 08:18.05 | cladhaire | yes, its the standard for click-casting addons |
| 08:18.27 | cladhaire | so unit frames just dump their frames in that table and any click-casting addon will come along and provide click-casting for them |
| 08:18.55 | Nandini | it seems they are all being added using ClickCastFrames[frame] = true during initialization |
| 08:19.23 | cladhaire | yes, they should be |
| 08:19.51 | cladhaire | the issue is they seem to be getting removed, or not added in some situation |
| 08:20.21 | Nandini | correct, they are not in the table for me |
| 08:20.28 | cladhaire | and you're not using clique |
| 08:20.45 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go |
| 08:21.07 | cladhaire | then something is borked in registration/unregistration |
| 08:21.59 | Nandini | let me update and reenable clique, i don't have anything i can cast with it on this char but at least i can check the table |
| 08:22.06 | cladhaire | well |
| 08:22.09 | cladhaire | you don tneed clique to do that |
| 08:22.13 | cladhaire | its probably better if you don't |
| 08:22.37 | cladhaire | if they don't end up in ClickCastFrames then clique can't do anything with them |
| 08:22.49 | cladhaire | so you can test it with PitBull alone, trying to see whats happening. |
| 08:23.03 | cladhaire | bb shower |
| 08:23.29 | Zhinjio | quick question about scoping rules: if my xml files specifies the various LUA files to load, are they going to have visibility to each other? (the functions defined in them?) ... assuming the functions aren't defined with "local" |
| 08:23.56 | Nargiddley | no, they will be local to the file they are declared in |
| 08:24.07 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 08:24.37 | Zhinjio | I wanted to try to keep separate LUA files to have functions that were similar or related to each other, insteadof one huge glomming file. |
| 08:24.39 | cladhaire | you can use namespacing or globals to span the different files |
| 08:24.40 | Nandini | in my table, i only have Button:PitBullUnitFrame1 through Button:PitBullUnitFrame7 = true |
| 08:24.46 | Nandini | WITHOUT clique installed |
| 08:25.04 | orionshock | ive got nothing |
| 08:25.04 | cladhaire | Nandini: Then I would suggest that there's an issue with pet frame registration in Pitbull |
| 08:25.14 | Nandini | well i don't even have party frames registered |
| 08:25.22 | Zhinjio | ok, going to read up on globals and namespacing then. Thanks. |
| 08:25.26 | Nandini | surely someone would have complained about that if it were broken |
| 08:25.30 | cladhaire | Nandini: Yeah, that's a bad thing |
| 08:25.57 | Nandini | i'll try and see if i can find a party to join, preferably with a pet, and see if either gets added |
| 08:26.06 | cladhaire | if you get any more info, I'd love to hear what you end up with |
| 08:26.09 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:29.44 | Nandini | okay i am in a party with a lock and her voidwalker now |
| 08:30.02 | Nandini | and party member, party target, and party pet are all in the ClickCastFrames table now |
| 08:30.15 | Zhinjio | Nargiddley, cladhaire: What you told me contradicts what the wowwiki page (http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_variable_scoping) indicates? |
| 08:30.16 | Nandini | with the correct frame names and everything |
| 08:30.57 | Nargiddley | Zhinjio, where ? |
| 08:31.16 | orionshock | Nargiddley: i think you mis understood him |
| 08:31.27 | Zhinjio | it says that are variables and functions, unless explicitly defined with "local", are global, and visible to all files. |
| 08:31.28 | orionshock | any function not local'ed will be available to the entire game |
| 08:31.41 | Zhinjio | maybe I didn't ask my question well. |
| 08:32.21 | Nargiddley | Zhinjio, ah saw you mention local and misread yeah |
| 08:32.27 | Zhinjio | kk |
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| 08:32.49 | Zhinjio | thanks. I suppose, for good programming practice, however, that it behooves me to "hide" most things anyway. |
| 08:32.57 | Nargiddley | there is only one global environment for all addons, so yes anything not local is visible to everything |
| 08:35.01 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.07 | Nandini | cladhaire: it seems that the party/party target/party pet frames are not added to ClickCastTable until the first time they are actually created (i.e., when you join a party) |
| 08:37.24 | cladhaire | okay, that makes sense and is fair enough |
| 08:37.35 | cladhaire | but users are having them not listed in ClickCastFrames at all |
| 08:37.36 | Nandini | and only the frames that were populated were added to the table (my party of 1 had Button:PitBullCluster1UnitButton1, Button:PitBullCluster2UnitButton1, Button:PitBullCluster3UnitButton1 ) |
| 08:37.55 | Nandini | and they remain listed in the table after i leave the party |
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| 08:38.20 | cladhaire | yeah thats all as expected |
| 08:38.28 | cladhaire | I wonder if there's an issue joining a party with pets in combat perhaps? |
| 08:38.35 | cladhaire | dont know why there would be.. |
| 08:39.27 | orionshock | pitbull has a 2? second delay on creating the frames if you join a group while in combat & while zoning |
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| 08:41.13 | Nandini | the user has commented that in the clique options he only sees frames 1-6 listed, that implies he had not joined a party yet since the last /reload |
| 08:41.34 | Nandini | otherwise he should have at least seen party members' frames listed as well |
| 08:42.28 | Nandini | even if he joined a party, if it had no pets, he should not expect to see the party pet frames be listed |
| 08:43.10 | cladhaire | well if you want to download clique and make sure it works with party/pets, i'd apprecaite it :P |
| 08:43.26 | cladhaire | gotta run up to college, be back in a few |
| 08:43.39 | Nandini | i'm testing this on a trial account, i don't think i even have a char that can make a bandage to test on someone. LOL |
| 08:44.35 | cladhaire | ll |
| 08:44.44 | cladhaire | you can buff |
| 08:44.46 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:44.47 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r51474 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFuLocals-zhTW.lua: |
| 08:44.47 | CIA-12 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 08:44.47 | CIA-12 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 08:44.56 | cladhaire | or cast a self-buff |
| 08:45.00 | cladhaire | clique isn't just for healing, ya know |
| 08:45.27 | Nandini | i'll make a druid, that can heal right off the bat |
| 08:45.36 | clad|brb | lol thanks. |
| 08:45.38 | Zhinjio | hmm, thats interesting |
| 08:49.53 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r618 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/50_51_Searing_Gorge.lua: TourGuide - Guide data tweaking |
| 08:51.12 | sag_ich_nicht | oh. |
| 08:51.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i forgot to update my omnicc. |
| 08:51.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i still run 1.2. |
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| 08:51.31 | sag_ich_nicht | there is 2.0.5 out atm |
| 08:51.33 | sag_ich_nicht | -_- |
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| 08:52.06 | sag_ich_nicht | in before a million addon problems vanish into oblivion when i login tonight :X |
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| 08:52.52 | Nandini | umm how do i get version information in-game about an addon using rock? |
| 08:54.10 | Nandini | is it possible for me in-game to determine the version of PitBull installed, for example? |
| 08:54.33 | Wobin | not in the version info/ |
| 08:54.37 | Wobin | er 'about'? |
| 08:54.49 | Nandini | how do i get to "about" LOL |
| 08:55.22 | Nandini | there doesn't seem to be an "about" that i can find |
| 08:55.45 | Diao | type /rock |
| 08:55.49 | Diao | or alt-rightclick on a frame? |
| 08:56.01 | Nandini | that brings up the RockConfig menu |
| 08:56.05 | Nandini | GUI i mean |
| 08:56.07 | Diao | yea then select pitbull |
| 08:56.10 | Nandini | i did |
| 08:56.15 | Diao | oh |
| 08:56.17 | Diao | then i don't know |
| 08:57.02 | Nandini | it seems to be inacessible through its in-game UI (at least to mere mortals) |
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| 08:57.58 | Nargiddley | /print PitBull.version |
| 08:58.35 | Nandini | yes that's how i did it, i'm just used to there being an about command that gives me some basic info at least |
| 09:00.32 | Nargiddley | dont know of one :/ |
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| 09:01.34 | winkiller | sag_ich_nicht: I "updated" to 1.3 a week ago |
| 09:01.46 | winkiller | some addon site had a hiccup methinks |
| 09:02.08 | Nandini | there is a handy bug tracking button, it would be nice if the revision could be included in the URL automagically when creating a new issue |
| 09:02.42 | CIA-12 | 03vincent * r51475 10WeaponRebuff/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:02.42 | CIA-12 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 09:02.42 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.42 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.42 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:07.12 | Grum | Nandini: update to the latest then you know which version you have YY |
| 09:07.40 | Nandini | of course i can just check it in WAU too, i was just wondering if there was a UI-accessible way to get it in-game |
| 09:08.07 | Nandini | i suppose technically, scripting is a UI :P |
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| 09:10.49 | Grum | it depends if the module author provides it to you |
| 09:10.55 | vithos | is there a way to put slash commands in CustomMenuFu, or just scripts? or is there a way to execute slash commands from scripts? |
| 09:10.58 | Grum | and if they do its likely not in the same way |
| 09:11.39 | Nandini | yes i was just noting how aceconsole presented TOC metadata in its about command and how there is not really an equivalent i have found for rock addons |
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| 09:13.10 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r51476 10PitBull_AltAura/update.lua: PitBull_AltAura: fix offset calculation in non-split debuff layouting. |
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| 09:14.29 | neenee | Hm. I'll modify Alphamap myself. |
| 09:14.45 | Nandini | i was kind of getting to like having maintenance every 2 weeks, i got way too spoiled (or blizz got way too bad at rolling out decent patches on the first try) |
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| 09:16.22 | jon_a | any lua programers on here? |
| 09:16.35 | Nandini | cladhaire: i also could not reproduce the problem, maybe that user was just getting unlucky with "stuck" modifier keys when he was trying to cast on party pets |
| 09:16.45 | cladhaire | hopefully they can come back with more info |
| 09:16.57 | cladhaire | jon_a: Quite a few, what do you need? |
| 09:17.56 | jon_a | i used to program basic and c now i trying to mod some lua code for WOW but not sure about the syntax were can ifind good info |
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| 09:18.07 | Nandini | ~lua |
| 09:18.08 | purl | from memory, lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
| 09:18.38 | Nandini | for information about the WoW API, the best source is http://www.wowwiki.com/ |
| 09:19.05 | cladhaire | but if you need syntax info about the language, use the first link @ lua.org |
| 09:19.10 | cladhaire | and real PiL |
| 09:19.12 | cladhaire | ~pil |
| 09:19.13 | purl | i heard pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 09:20.15 | jon_a | that excellent |
| 09:20.15 | Nandini | the API documentation is incomplete though, since it mostly only covers what has been discovered by users or explained in the UI/Macros forum |
| 09:21.08 | jon_a | i keep running into errors but not sure were the fault lies and not sure how i can find out the value of a variable |
| 09:21.22 | cladhaire | well run through the first few chapters of the online book |
| 09:21.23 | jon_a | in basic there was print |
| 09:21.23 | cladhaire | it'll be helpful |
| 09:21.28 | cladhaire | there is print in lua |
| 09:21.29 | cladhaire | not in wow |
| 09:21.38 | cladhaire | you can ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(varName)) |
| 09:21.44 | orionshock | was gona say that :P |
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| 09:22.04 | Nandini | if any of your installed addons use the Ace2 framework, you can also just use a /print command |
| 09:22.19 | Nandini | by typing it in the chat box |
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| 09:23.40 | jon_a | dont suppose u use the new aucadvanced addon |
| 09:24.00 | Nandini | i have it installed just to try it out |
| 09:24.19 | Nandini | i actually kind of like its slider bar, i think i may steal it for my own uses. LOL |
| 09:24.20 | Elkano | Nandini, only if the addon uses AceConsole; not all do |
| 09:24.27 | jon_a | they changed the btmscan baserule to a new evaluation module |
| 09:25.27 | Nandini | yes, all of the statistics seem quite a bit more refined now |
| 09:26.10 | jon_a | i had a great baserule but now it changed i tryed to move it over and get a load of errors |
| 09:26.41 | Nandini | i wouldn't know how to help you, i've never really used btmscan |
| 09:27.16 | Nandini | they seem to have a pretty active forum/wiki/bug tracking kind of thing though, you might be able to get some authoritative help there |
| 09:27.36 | orionshock | & irc |
| 09:29.07 | Nandini | anyone taking bets on how long maintenance will REALLY last today? |
| 09:30.01 | Nandini | of course, being stupid, i paid to reactivate my account 1 hour before maintenance begins and wasted 1/3 a day of it at least. LOL |
| 09:32.02 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51477 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2.lua Buffalo2_Buff.lua Buffalo2_Button.lua): |
| 09:32.03 | CIA-12 | Buffalo2: |
| 09:32.03 | CIA-12 | * "attempt to index field '?'" should be gone now |
| 09:32.03 | CIA-12 | * "attempt to call method 'GetGhostColor' (a nil value)" as well |
| 09:32.03 | CIA-12 | * Fixed display of buff applications left |
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| 09:48.15 | Trell_ | "Blackrock Depths is getting improved as well. I recommend checking it out the PTRs when they are available for patch 2.3." - the 20-60 plot thickens |
| 09:48.55 | cryogen | this is a Good Thing(tm) |
| 09:49.11 | cryogen | the problem with the lower instances is they span too high a level range, they seem to be addressing that somewhat |
| 09:49.17 | Trell_ | correct |
| 09:49.28 | Trell_ | but won't that leave gaps in levels for instances |
| 09:49.42 | cryogen | it will increase said gaps yeah |
| 09:49.55 | Trell_ | eg; if they're tightening the range on instances, theres going to be more gaps where theres no instances to goto that are worthwhile |
| 09:50.08 | cryogen | i guess thats why they are adding shitloads of quests in the 30-40 range |
| 09:50.14 | cryogen | im sure they have Big Plans for other areas too |
| 09:50.27 | Trell_ | Big Plans© |
| 09:50.31 | Trell_ | ^^ |
| 09:50.33 | cryogen | you dont *need* to do an instance every level though |
| 09:50.37 | cryogen | its fine to have some gaps |
| 09:50.43 | Trell_ | whats with the druid boosts too? |
| 09:50.47 | Trell_ | shocking |
| 09:50.51 | cryogen | druid buffs? |
| 09:50.53 | cryogen | givf? |
| 09:51.07 | Nandini | yes, i think aliens have invaded blizz and taken over the developers |
| 09:51.09 | Trell_ | In addition there will be changes to Items that granted bonus attack power in Cat, Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms. These items have been re-evaluated and in almost all cases, the attack power on the item has been increased. |
| 09:51.16 | Nandini | or perhaps druids have invaded. either way, i'm happy |
| 09:51.20 | cryogen | nice |
| 09:51.33 | Trell_ | and i read something about more AP or some crap |
| 09:51.36 | Trell_ | wait |
| 09:51.41 | cryogen | yeah heart of the wild is being changed |
| 09:51.47 | cryogen | from str to ap |
| 09:51.47 | Trell_ | no no |
| 09:51.57 | Trell_ | well, yes, but something else too |
| 09:52.03 | cryogen | oh, cool |
| 09:52.10 | cryogen | im levelling a druid at the moment |
| 09:52.17 | cryogen | 2.3 is like christmas come early |
| 09:52.19 | Nandini | hmm, i actually liked HotW giving str in cat form |
| 09:52.21 | Trell_ | cant find it |
| 09:52.21 | Wobin | oh man, maybe boomkin levelling will be effective =) |
| 09:52.24 | cryogen | (unless it takes until christmas to deploy) |
| 09:52.29 | Trell_ | but yeah, that hotw change is scary |
| 09:52.40 | Nandini | how is AP better? it won't scale with pally buffs |
| 09:52.42 | Trell_ | actually, all the signs point to 2.3 being on ptr's shortly |
| 09:52.50 | cryogen | Nandini: huh? think BoM |
| 09:52.56 | winkiller | I made a shadowprowler's some days ago before the announce |
| 09:52.58 | cryogen | Nandini: and most endgame gear is +ap not +str |
| 09:53.06 | winkiller | and I socketed +8 str rare gems... |
| 09:53.09 | cryogen | Nandini: remembers HoTW is % increase, not a fixed amount |
| 09:53.17 | orionshock | anyone here know candybar rather well? |
| 09:54.44 | Nandini | true, i'm just used to picking STR over AP when STR is available |
| 09:55.25 | cryogen | just means you can go for more rogue type gear i guess |
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| 09:56.16 | cryogen | and that cats get a nice boost from bom |
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| 09:57.08 | Nandini | it will be interesting to see what the change with both BoM and BoK looks like |
| 09:57.27 | Mecdemort | I've created my own statusbar generator that will let you rotate the texture as well. Please check it out for any mistakes or suggestions, it seems usable in its current state. http://ace.pastey.net/75076 |
| 09:57.39 | Zhinjio | *weep* ... why do they shutdown servers when I'm in a groove. |
| 09:57.59 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r51478 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Professions/Professions.lua: Cartographer: Professions: Add a new activation trigger for professions, "When active", so if you have both herbalism and mining, it will only show icons on the map/minimap for the currently active profession. |
| 09:58.02 | jon_a | nandini can i add text into that schatframe with the variable? |
| 09:58.26 | Nandini | yup, just make sure you do tostring(variable) |
| 09:58.58 | Diao | there's nothing wrong with making it str instead of ap.. in fact if you chose str gear over ap you'll still get the same benefit as before? |
| 09:59.00 | jon_a | do i need to put text in quotes and what so i use to seperate comma or semicolon? |
| 09:59.10 | Nandini | mecdemort, i wouldn't call that statusbar rotation, i'd call it changing orientation |
| 09:59.19 | Diao | er ap instead of str |
| 09:59.20 | Diao | * |
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| 09:59.38 | Mecdemort | k changed it to oriented instead of rotated |
| 10:01.11 | Nandini | will having a global function called CreateStatusBar collide with anything else? |
| 10:01.29 | Mecdemort | im not going to leave it at that, that's just for testing |
| 10:01.51 | Mecdemort | all the other status bars are made with CreateFrame("StatusBar", ...) tho |
| 10:02.53 | Nandini | i was just thinking a sloppy and unimaginative author might have the same function already defined and left it global |
| 10:03.13 | Mecdemort | probably, when i make an addon it'll be in that namespace |
| 10:03.17 | Nandini | (that's something i would probably tend to do LOL) |
| 10:03.42 | Zhinjio | I wonder if HitRectInsets actually improves frame processing speed, or if its just a "safety" to guard unclickable regions of the frame. |
| 10:03.49 | Mecdemort | in the mean time i'm just looking for noticeable mistakes or simplifications i might have overlooked |
| 10:04.49 | Mecdemort | Zhinjio: probably just for regions that are close to eachother |
| 10:04.59 | Nandini | Zhinjio: i've seen it used when a transparent textxure is used that extends beyond the visible edges of the frame, to allow you to click through the invisible parts |
| 10:05.25 | Zhinjio | so with negative values then |
| 10:05.30 | Zhinjio | putting it outside the frame. |
| 10:06.04 | Nandini | no, the rectangle was shrunk to exclude the invisible edges of the frame |
| 10:06.08 | Zhinjio | ah, hmm... it hadn't occurred to me that you have to protect frames from each other |
| 10:06.08 | neenee | Does anyone know of a lightweight tranparent worldmap addon? |
| 10:06.18 | Zhinjio | yeah, gotcha. |
| 10:07.47 | Nandini | if your frame is roughly rectangular it's not that useful, but if say you had a round character portrait hanging off the top left corner, you might use the insets to limit clicks to the strictly rectangular area of your frame |
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| 10:09.05 | neenee | ~seen silverwind |
| 10:09.07 | purl | silverwind <~chris@68.119.96.18> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 961d 3h 6m 8s ago, saying: 'ok'. |
| 10:09.12 | neenee | egh :( |
| 10:09.17 | neenee | I doubt he stil comes here then |
| 10:09.24 | neenee | Probably not the same one either |
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| 10:11.48 | syeren | ckknight, is it possible to set PartyPet's Unit Frames a different size / scale to the Party frames? |
| 10:11.59 | syeren | Everytime I tried doing it last night, it just kept changing both -_- |
| 10:13.02 | Nandini | Mecdemort: there is actually a SetStatusBarColor(r, g, b, a) method, you don't have to set the vertexcolor on its texture |
| 10:13.45 | Mecdemort | i'm not actually dealing with any StatusBar objects, im creating my own and defining all of the functions within the StatusBar's interface |
| 10:13.49 | Nandini | there's also a GetStatusBarColor method that does the opposite |
| 10:14.05 | Nandini | why are you building your own bars? |
| 10:14.19 | Mecdemort | so i can orient the texture with the bar |
| 10:14.33 | Trell_ | bah have they changed the barrel delivery? |
| 10:14.49 | Nandini | oh you actually ARE rotating the texture? and not just setting the bar's orientation to horizontal? |
| 10:14.50 | CIA-12 | 03bam * r51479 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 10:14.50 | CIA-12 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 10:14.50 | CIA-12 | - Price updates |
| 10:14.51 | Trell_ | I hit 11 delivered, and made it back in time to grab another, and it said "you can't carry any more of those items" |
| 10:15.17 | Nandini | statusbars also have a built in vertical orientation already |
| 10:15.35 | Nandini | i thought you were just hooking existing statusbars and setting their orientation to vertical |
| 10:15.51 | Nandini | and making sure they stay that way when they get updated |
| 10:16.27 | Mecdemort | the problem with using the default status bars is that they dont rotate the texture, their orientation just changes the way the bars grow |
| 10:16.59 | Nandini | umm, if you want vertical bars, use a vertical texture? |
| 10:17.10 | CIA-12 | 03bam * r51480 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 10:17.10 | CIA-12 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 10:17.10 | CIA-12 | - GetSellValue now returns 0 (zero) for items known not to have a sell value. |
| 10:17.10 | CIA-12 | - Traditional Chinese zhTW localization by whocare@TW |
| 10:17.52 | Nandini | this is an awful lot of processing going on that could just be solved by the user picking an appropriate texture, it seems |
| 10:18.29 | Mecdemort | the only critical processing is within SetValue() which can easily be optimized much more than it is in this testing state |
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| 10:19.21 | Nandini | i'm just not sure why it's necessary to reinvent the wheel, unless this can actually be made more efficient than blizzard's statusbar |
| 10:19.52 | Nandini | which could very well be possible. LOL |
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| 10:20.21 | Mecdemort | I havnt done any testing but worst case it's only slightly worse. tho knowing blizz's code the only thing that makes it better is that it's precompiled |
| 10:20.56 | Nandini | i wrote my own statusbar that actually rotates, it's like a speedometer |
| 10:21.10 | Nandini | but i didn't do it very efficiently |
| 10:21.40 | Nandini | doing matrix math 2 or 3 times every time you set the value on it is kind of expensive |
| 10:21.50 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 10:21.57 | Nandini | transform once to rotate, transform again to clip |
| 10:21.59 | ben_ | Hi there, have a question about LibRockComm... How many bytes can we send each time ? |
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| 10:22.45 | Mecdemort | 1 million bytes *pinky to lips* |
| 10:23.16 | Nandini | if you throw it in a tank with sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads, it might even send more |
| 10:23.32 | cryogen | 961d? thats quite some history that bot has :) |
| 10:23.47 | neenee | :| |
| 10:23.50 | neenee | Yeah |
| 10:23.54 | neenee | I wish that guy was around thoguh |
| 10:23.56 | neenee | *though |
| 10:23.59 | neenee | I need an addon he made |
| 10:26.55 | chexsum | syeren ive got small party pets/party targets next to my party units |
| 10:27.19 | syeren | I have it working now, last night it was tying them together >_< |
| 10:28.33 | neenee | WQoo! |
| 10:28.34 | neenee | Wwoo! |
| 10:28.45 | neenee | My girlfriend still had the modified alphamap on her system =] |
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| 10:29.39 | Nandini | Mecdemort: also, if you want to emulate the blizz statusbar, i think you can pass it values < 0 or > 1 and it just handles it as 0 or 1 |
| 10:29.52 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 10:30.15 | Mecdemort | optimizations shall come after im sure it works |
| 10:31.45 | Mecdemort | hmm i think ill ditch the table closure for several local variable closures |
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| 10:33.53 | Nandini | just curious, what nasty problem arises if you were to actually set the value to 0? why are you bumping it up to 0.001 ? |
| 10:34.27 | Mecdemort | 0 acts like .05 instead of nothing |
| 10:34.37 | Mecdemort | so .01 is actually smaller than 0 |
| 10:35.08 | Nandini | that's quite bizarre, how did you figure that out? |
| 10:35.44 | Mecdemort | well it has to do with the rectangle being cropped with SetTexCoord(), when the value is 0 it doesnt create a valid rectangle |
| 10:35.55 | Nandini | that's probably why when my speedometer got down to 0 and was rotated 180 degrees, a stray line of pixels showed up at the bottom |
| 10:36.06 | Mecdemort | could be |
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| 10:37.49 | Nandini | alternatively, you could hide the texture immediately when it is zero and avoid the rest later |
| 10:38.14 | Mecdemort | more processing than just setting it to .001 if its less |
| 10:38.51 | Nandini | hmm maybe that's another thing that slowed down my speedometer then |
| 10:39.16 | Nandini | i didn't spend much time on it, my brain was fried after figuring out how to do all the transforms |
| 10:39.26 | Mecdemort | i can see that |
| 10:39.40 | Mecdemort | i spent a good 5 hours getting a nice feel on how TexCoord worked with all values |
| 10:40.15 | Mecdemort | that and i've been doing matrix math for like 8 years |
| 10:40.16 | Nandini | i probably spent an entire day trying to figure out how to rotate and crop in a single transform |
| 10:40.39 | Nandini | before i realized my first transform to rotate "stuck" when i was doing the second transform to crop |
| 10:42.12 | Nandini | i will be excited to see how this performs after you're all done with it, stacked up next to a blizz statusbar |
| 10:44.13 | Mecdemort | ya if the servers werent down i could profile it now |
| 10:45.40 | eXemplar | . |
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| 10:49.14 | Mecdemort | hmm are the test servers up |
| 10:49.34 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 10:49.35 | Xinhuan | PTRs are down |
| 10:49.48 | Mecdemort | bah |
| 10:49.55 | Mecdemort | absolutely no way for me to test this :x |
| 10:50.03 | nevcairiel | use live? |
| 10:50.04 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:50.14 | Xinhuan | live down too |
| 10:50.15 | nevcairiel | (sucks to be US, i guess) |
| 10:50.29 | Mecdemort | how do i get an EU client :D |
| 10:50.48 | Xinhuan | you would need access to an EU account too |
| 10:50.58 | nevcairiel | we've free trial accounts |
| 10:51.04 | Xinhuan | hmm true |
| 10:51.07 | Mecdemort | thats a thought |
| 10:51.19 | Mecdemort | wtb local sandbox server |
| 10:51.23 | nevcairiel | but i dont think you can get the client in time .. US should go back up before :P |
| 10:51.47 | Mecdemort | ya screw that, tf2 is calling |
| 10:52.32 | Trell_ | did they lower the bomb cd for 'Bomb Them Again', and if so when? |
| 10:53.27 | SunTsu | Trell_: Latest patch |
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| 10:54.31 | dafire | hi all .9 |
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| 10:54.55 | dafire | i have a few questions for a lua addict .9 |
| 10:55.44 | dafire | is accessing a function local variable faster then a file local variable ? |
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| 10:57.03 | nevcairiel | a file local would be an upvalue, and yes, real locals are faster then upvalues, but only a veeeeeeery small difference |
| 10:57.47 | Mecdemort | more memory too for upvalues methinks |
| 10:58.32 | dafire | but when i call the function often it would be better to use file local variables so they don't get created on each call i guess |
| 10:58.54 | nevcairiel | function local values are on the stack, that doesnt use memory |
| 10:59.23 | do3mca | i asked this before, is there a possibility to move the input bar to another place on the screen |
| 11:00.10 | dafire | another question is about using .. to create strings like "val a:"..a.." val b:"..b |
| 11:00.11 | cryogen | "input bar?" |
| 11:00.19 | do3mca | when you press enter |
| 11:00.24 | dafire | is using format faster then using .. ? |
| 11:00.25 | cryogen | oh that |
| 11:00.28 | cryogen | i think prat lets you do that |
| 11:00.35 | do3mca | pitbull not? |
| 11:00.44 | cryogen | unlikely, since its not part of unitframes |
| 11:00.48 | do3mca | its not? |
| 11:00.50 | do3mca | mh |
| 11:00.52 | nevcairiel | dafire: depends. if you use only strings, .. is good enough, if you use numbers, format is generally faster |
| 11:00.56 | Mecdemort | dafire: if you're concatenating strings then no, numbers maybe |
| 11:00.57 | cryogen | nope its part of the chatframe |
| 11:01.01 | do3mca | ah |
| 11:01.07 | dafire | nevcairiel: thanks .9 |
| 11:01.11 | Trell_ | !p Schematic: Crashin' Thrashin' Robot |
| 11:01.13 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Name: Schematic: Crashin' Thrashin' Robot; Vendor: 2g; Deposit (24h): 1g 20s; Auction (All): 50g; Disenchant (All): 20g 68s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 11:02.12 | Punkie` | Trell_: I have one, and it got buffed! win |
| 11:02.51 | sylvanaar | all roads lead to the chatframe |
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| 11:03.02 | do3mca | pitbull_prat. now. lets see. :) |
| 11:03.09 | cryogen | sylvanaar can tell you lots about chatframes |
| 11:03.15 | Nocts | Downtime makes everyone cry. |
| 11:03.25 | dafire | does anybody knows an profiler style addon that can hook functions and show memory and cpu time ? i only know traceevent but that was for wow 1.0 .9 |
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| 11:03.44 | do3mca | actually i just want the input bar above the chatframe, because even if its not visible, it takes away valueable space :} |
| 11:03.51 | Punkie` | dafire: expo ? |
| 11:03.54 | sylvanaar | what is the "input bar" |
| 11:03.57 | cryogen | thats exactly what prat lets you do |
| 11:03.58 | elusif | is there a mod that will monitor my fps? |
| 11:04.03 | sylvanaar | edit box? |
| 11:04.06 | cryogen | y |
| 11:04.15 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r51481 10MountUp/ItemSwap.lua: MountUp: removed support for druid trinket thing again, it never worked as expected |
| 11:04.15 | sylvanaar | how is that a unitframe? |
| 11:04.25 | do3mca | its not, thats what stu said |
| 11:04.37 | sylvanaar | oh, i arrived late |
| 11:05.02 | Xinhuan | [10/9 18:54:19] <+nevcairiel> a file local would be an upvalue, and yes, real locals are faster then upvalues, but only a veeeeeeery small difference |
| 11:05.11 | do3mca | and iam just clueless. to me almost everything which is visible is a unitframe. |
| 11:05.17 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel: how much difference is that on about 20000 accesses? |
| 11:05.18 | dafire | Punkie`: I'll have a look .9 |
| 11:05.23 | sylvanaar | there is no unit |
| 11:05.26 | cryogen | unit frames are frames associated with a unit :) |
| 11:05.32 | do3mca | oh. |
| 11:05.39 | cryogen | player/pet/raid/target/focus, etc |
| 11:05.41 | sylvanaar | its a frame |
| 11:05.41 | do3mca | hence the name unit frames |
| 11:05.45 | cryogen | you'd think |
| 11:05.46 | do3mca | ohwell :) |
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| 11:06.02 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: not sure how much, but from what i understand, local'ing upvalues again is really forcing it :) |
| 11:06.13 | nevcairiel | feel free to run benchmarks :D |
| 11:06.27 | do3mca | sometimes if one explains something, it becomes clear why its named the way it is |
| 11:06.41 | Mecdemort | thats usually how it works |
| 11:06.47 | Fisker- | Don't let them construct your mother |
| 11:06.58 | do3mca | so to my defense, english isnt my native tongue |
| 11:07.07 | neenee | That's no excuse. |
| 11:07.11 | do3mca | damn |
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| 11:07.52 | Mecdemort | ya english sucks and noone is good at it |
| 11:07.55 | sylvanaar | wtb test realm |
| 11:08.08 | elusif | is there a mod to monitor fps? |
| 11:08.14 | do3mca | one? |
| 11:08.15 | Mecdemort | the default UI can monitor fps |
| 11:08.31 | Trell_ | Punkie` - the robot thing? |
| 11:08.33 | Trell_ | buffed how? |
| 11:08.42 | dafire | is 2.2.3 coming today in us ? |
| 11:08.45 | Trell_ | just ahd the schematic drop in BEM |
| 11:08.48 | Trell_ | *had |
| 11:08.53 | elusif | MentalPower|ZzZz: ty |
| 11:09.13 | sylvanaar | i just bought it - or no, did i opt not to...crap |
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| 11:10.42 | do3mca | <3 prat. without configuring it just does what i want. |
| 11:10.45 | sylvanaar | do3mca my input bar is above my chatframe. Though, if that's all you want prat isnt for you. If you install it - you can just load my Preset configuration which has it already |
| 11:10.59 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 11:11.12 | do3mca | sylvanaar: too late! :) |
| 11:11.15 | cryogen | heh |
| 11:11.22 | cryogen | it reads your mind! |
| 11:11.37 | sylvanaar | Try using my preset - i hate the default settings. |
| 11:11.37 | do3mca | holy shit. what a large configure |
| 11:11.45 | cryogen | it has a totally awful name |
| 11:11.47 | cryogen | but still |
| 11:12.01 | sylvanaar | what |
| 11:12.17 | do3mca | cannot provide the same locale more than once "enUS" provided twice |
| 11:12.34 | Fisker- | around me never relax |
| 11:13.16 | sylvanaar | prat never does that - how odd |
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| 11:14.29 | do3mca | happened when i loaded your preset |
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| 11:14.38 | do3mca | but then it complained about one dependency missing earlier |
| 11:14.45 | do3mca | now if i hadnt already forgot which. |
| 11:14.59 | sylvanaar | dont you have bugsack |
| 11:14.59 | do3mca | i need a better memory. |
| 11:15.19 | do3mca | no, is it that which provides that fancy errors-dialog? |
| 11:15.29 | cryogen | it is |
| 11:15.31 | sylvanaar | yeah |
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| 11:15.58 | do3mca | *install* asked for its name yesterday, but everyone was proabbly too drunk to answer >:p |
| 11:17.18 | sylvanaar | I suggest using ACP and setting Bugsack !Buggrabber and Ace2 (if you run disembedded) as "Protected" |
| 11:17.56 | sylvanaar | that's what i do at least |
| 11:18.53 | Mecdemort | is there a fast way to loop through '...' without creating a table or using select()? |
| 11:18.56 | do3mca | can acp load mods which i copied in interface after i started wow? |
| 11:19.04 | sylvanaar | no |
| 11:19.08 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 11:19.17 | sylvanaar | in reverse order |
| 11:19.40 | sylvanaar | whats wrong with select btw? |
| 11:19.46 | nevcairiel | select is slow |
| 11:19.52 | Mecdemort | its dirty? |
| 11:20.01 | sylvanaar | what's slow about it |
| 11:20.06 | nevcairiel | itself |
| 11:20.07 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 11:20.09 | [Ammo] | local mytable = { ... } and loop that |
| 11:20.13 | Grum | local table = {...}; .. |
| 11:20.17 | Grum | hehe |
| 11:20.24 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:20.26 | [Ammo] | and yes select() is slow |
| 11:20.37 | Mecdemort | sylvanaar: that would just be the same thing |
| 11:20.40 | Grum | local select = select ^^ |
| 11:20.43 | sylvanaar | it just pushes everything onto the stack |
| 11:21.18 | dylanm | You could iterate over args? |
| 11:21.22 | dylanm | Er, arg |
| 11:21.37 | Mecdemort | can you? |
| 11:21.40 | [Ammo] | dylanm: which is done with select |
| 11:21.42 | dafire | expo bugs if a function don't use any memory :o) |
| 11:21.55 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 11:22.47 | do3mca | huh |
| 11:23.09 | do3mca | "can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not." |
| 11:23.16 | dylanm | [Ammo]: As in, if I did for i, a in ipairs(arg) or for i=1,arg.n ... that's the same? |
| 11:23.21 | do3mca | do i need to tell ace what my locale is? |
| 11:23.26 | Grum | no |
| 11:23.36 | Grum | but you can not do ["..."] = true on anything other than enUS |
| 11:23.36 | sylvanaar | idk ... was put in and designed to be used with select, someone test it and see |
| 11:23.46 | do3mca | hmmm. |
| 11:23.55 | do3mca | so textspy is to blame. |
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| 11:26.20 | masanbol | this may seem like a completely random question, but does the files.wowace site or its maintainers track which addons are downloaded the most? |
| 11:26.53 | masanbol | i think those statistics might be interesting if they are available |
| 11:27.05 | Mecdemort | masanbol: i think you can find that info somewhere on fish.wowace.com |
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| 11:28.44 | masanbol | Mecdemort: that was exactly what i was looking for, thanks a ton |
| 11:30.57 | do3mca | grum: oh! |
| 11:31.14 | cryogen | what stuff do you need in your .toc for an addon to show on files.wowace? |
| 11:31.25 | do3mca | i guess i understand the problem |
| 11:31.28 | Spelltress | is there a packet sniffer available for WOW |
| 11:31.41 | Grum | :) |
| 11:31.43 | do3mca | now how stupid is that, localizing the programming language itself. :/ |
| 11:31.55 | Grum | when you say: '= true' you say: there is no translation |
| 11:32.00 | Grum | you can only say that for enUS |
| 11:32.24 | Grum | do3mca: where is it localized? |
| 11:32.45 | Grum | that is just a convention done by the Locale library |
| 11:33.05 | do3mca | oh |
| 11:33.11 | do3mca | *whistle* |
| 11:34.53 | do3mca | hey stu. shall we help'em to setup pre-commit unit tests? :-P |
| 11:37.08 | cryogen | lets not instead |
| 11:37.14 | cryogen | im sure the server is loaded enough :p |
| 11:37.17 | do3mca | :( |
| 11:37.32 | cryogen | weasel shouts at me whenever i suggest pre-commit :( |
| 11:38.06 | do3mca | iam pondering rsyncing the fsfs and using that for mirror copies |
| 11:38.30 | do3mca | what would kaelthen say? :} |
| 11:38.53 | cryogen | if you do it before he wakes up |
| 11:38.58 | cryogen | there isnt much he can say :p |
| 11:39.10 | do3mca | he needs to publish it via rsync first |
| 11:39.37 | do3mca | not much to rsync if it isnt offered as rsync :P |
| 11:39.44 | dafire | there is a svnmirror script .9 |
| 11:39.54 | cryogen | i didnt read the rsync bit |
| 11:39.56 | dafire | but it will take ages to get a mirror to the current revision |
| 11:39.59 | cryogen | thought yo uwanted to mirror svn or something |
| 11:40.17 | do3mca | well |
| 11:40.22 | do3mca | the trunk is ~600M big |
| 11:40.46 | do3mca | without externals |
| 11:40.58 | cryogen | tiny! |
| 11:41.36 | nevcairiel | the full svn with all revisions is quite bigger |
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| 11:41.44 | nevcairiel | kaelten mentioned some values soem time ago |
| 11:41.46 | nevcairiel | but i forgot |
| 11:42.38 | Zhinjio | Is there anything stopping one from registering multiple variables to the localization module? |
| 11:43.49 | sylvanaar | someone could make stable.wowace.com, and a web-form |
| 11:44.13 | sylvanaar | it doesnt have to be a full mirror |
| 11:44.26 | harldephin | dang. what's up with ui.wow.net -.- |
| 11:44.40 | sylvanaar | where should i start... |
| 11:46.00 | sylvanaar | if you ar going to do something - why not make a mirror - where only the "stable" addons get zipped |
| 11:46.10 | do3mca | mompls, fon |
| 11:46.36 | cryogen | how do you decide what's stable |
| 11:46.40 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 11:46.44 | Zhinjio | the two corporate code trees I've been involved in used "trunk" for only stable releases. Development and testing in pre-production had to occur in branches. |
| 11:46.45 | sylvanaar | use a web form |
| 11:46.55 | Wobin | Zhinjio: yes. |
| 11:47.00 | Wobin | Zhinjio: That's the standard method |
| 11:47.09 | cryogen | "standard" |
| 11:47.12 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 11:47.16 | cryogen | i do all my work in trunk on my svn |
| 11:47.19 | Wobin | Well, standard everywhere else =P |
| 11:47.28 | cryogen | but thats mainly because its inherited from cvs |
| 11:47.42 | cryogen | that's the "standard" too |
| 11:47.49 | do3mca | its not standard |
| 11:47.50 | sylvanaar | its time to get off the "standard" stuff - and solve the problem we have which is non-standard |
| 11:48.16 | cryogen | its standard if you converted your repo from cvs :) |
| 11:48.19 | do3mca | many people work in trunk, do LARGE stuff in branches, branch off stables and backport fixes from trunk to the branch |
| 11:48.32 | cryogen | thats what i do, aye |
| 11:48.36 | Wobin | do3mca: yes, that works. |
| 11:48.44 | Wobin | If the svn isn't treated like a release platform |
| 11:48.51 | Wobin | which it is here |
| 11:48.52 | sylvanaar | you branch if you have per client builds |
| 11:48.59 | sylvanaar | and you release off the branch |
| 11:49.01 | cryogen | nothing off my trunk ever gets released |
| 11:49.10 | Wobin | exactly |
| 11:49.11 | cryogen | nothing off my braches gets released either |
| 11:49.13 | do3mca | sylvanaar: thats the cvs way. |
| 11:49.16 | cryogen | if it aint in a tag, it goes nowhere |
| 11:49.28 | Zhinjio | well, this isn't a corporate environment. THere is *nothing* stopping people from violating "standards" and "best practices". Hell, even if you published the rules people would still break them. |
| 11:49.51 | Wobin | Zhinjio: True, it's still not the best solution though |
| 11:49.56 | do3mca | actually, i believe people are still way too fixated at "trunk", "branch" and "tag" |
| 11:50.00 | Zhinjio | Without some SVN nazi (pardon the term) around to enforce rules, the problem will continue to exist, insofar as there is a problem. |
| 11:50.01 | CIA-12 | 03peragor * r51482 10GridStatusHealer/ (5 files): |
| 11:50.01 | CIA-12 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 11:50.01 | CIA-12 | - Tweaked classModifiers for Shaman |
| 11:50.01 | CIA-12 | - Added checking for Prayer of Medning buff |
| 11:50.01 | CIA-12 | - Added checking for healing prevention debuffs |
| 11:50.02 | CIA-12 | - Added threat checking using Threat-1.0 |
| 11:50.04 | Wobin | Zhinjio: Wowace would be better off if we released through tags |
| 11:50.12 | sylvanaar | i like my solution - which requires no changes to files.wowace.com |
| 11:50.37 | do3mca | so what i was originally about is to automatically collect errors like the one from textspy above posted |
| 11:51.15 | do3mca | if "true" as value isnt valid in anything other than usUS, this pretty easily should be caught up by an automaton |
| 11:51.34 | do3mca | it should be pretty easy possible. |
| 11:51.40 | do3mca | or something ... |
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| 11:51.52 | winkiller | anyone go |
| 11:52.01 | winkiller | anyone got that !c armory thingy in php? |
| 11:52.17 | sylvanaar | i have it in windows |
| 11:52.52 | winkiller | ah. sylvanaar - my xp reinstall fixed the issue with moved WAU window |
| 11:52.54 | sylvanaar | I use it more for in-game debugstacks |
| 11:53.11 | winkiller | it's now not behind the taskbar anymore. but still at 0/0 top left, but fine |
| 11:53.14 | sylvanaar | i just copy the stack, and my editor opens |
| 11:53.17 | do3mca | catching such things would even be possible prior to allowing the commit automagically - although this might piss off non-svn-savvy people |
| 11:53.37 | winkiller | but now it's a bit too narrow and I dont see the searchbox until I resize :P |
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| 11:54.16 | sylvanaar | yeah, its less than ideal in sevearl areas |
| 11:54.24 | Kain____ | does anyone happen to have a link that compares caster trinkets in 2.2? |
| 11:54.47 | sylvanaar | it does svn up's for you now - if you have svn.exe installed |
| 11:54.55 | Kain____ | curious how Quagmirran's Eye compares to others w/ spell haste buff |
| 11:55.22 | do3mca | so anyway, i could provide some infrastructure including a svn mirror. |
| 11:56.17 | sylvanaar | just make a selective mirror - and you have your tag system - ready to go, and would work with alot of updaters - including WAU |
| 11:57.59 | sylvanaar | you can even define a tag which the author has to put so that it will appear on your mirror. |
| 11:58.28 | sylvanaar | rather a standard naming convention for tags |
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| 11:59.09 | Zhinjio | Another dumb question: is there any offline way to do plugin testing when the realms are down? Oh, hmm... I suppose if PTRs were up. |
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| 12:01.40 | Xinhuan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Cleansing_%28computer_game%29 |
| 12:01.48 | Xinhuan | quote from the article |
| 12:01.51 | Xinhuan | 'Also, while the game's box and adverts claimed "realistic negro sounds recorded on the spot with REAL niggers", these turned out to be ape and monkey cries.' |
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| 12:02.31 | Pkekyo | NEVER go to the store when you're hungry as a wolf and got mad fucking munchies! |
| 12:03.13 | do3mca | sylvanaar: well. |
| 12:03.50 | fuzzy_sys | how much dps should a shaman (enh) run @ aran? |
| 12:04.13 | sylvanaar | do3mca what |
| 12:04.17 | do3mca | thats multiple issue in once. i might setup some autotester once i have time. |
| 12:04.33 | do3mca | that'd require some lua loader which loads the libs and tests stuff |
| 12:04.45 | fuzzy_sys | or better: how could a shaman (enh) solve "resist", while using ES on aran? |
| 12:05.01 | do3mca | the other thing is having some kind of stable branch which requires someone to dedicate a certain amount of time each day |
| 12:05.30 | do3mca | (which i certainly am not the right person for, as i tend to lose focus - some call that ADHS, i call it spontaneous :} |
| 12:05.43 | sylvanaar | do3mca - just make an easy way to linklocal function iterate2(...) |
| 12:05.43 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.43 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.43 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.43 | sylvanaar | end |
| 12:05.47 | sylvanaar | oops |
| 12:06.02 | sylvanaar | what is all tha |
| 12:06.56 | do3mca | what is all that about? the talk drifted. :) |
| 12:07.13 | sylvanaar | i had crap in my paste buffer |
| 12:07.29 | do3mca | oh |
| 12:07.40 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: what laptop did you order? |
| 12:08.39 | do3mca | another thing ive seen is that someone tried to use (pseudo?)-doxygen type documentation inside the code. why not automagically generate it? afaict the api reference online is hand written |
| 12:08.56 | sylvanaar | already being done |
| 12:08.57 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r51483 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Hide the flight form set option from non-druid players. |
| 12:08.59 | do3mca | damn, so many possibilities to explore. |
| 12:09.31 | Zhinjio | Pkekyo: HP Paviliion dv9500z |
| 12:09.41 | Zhinjio | with the exp.base |
| 12:09.50 | sylvanaar | how about just make a mirror to start |
| 12:09.58 | Zhinjio | I can provide specs if desired. |
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| 12:10.11 | do3mca | :) |
| 12:12.01 | do3mca | $ find ./ -maxdepth 2 -name "*.toc" | wc -l |
| 12:12.01 | do3mca | 1021 |
| 12:12.02 | sylvanaar | then you can use your autotester to pupulate the mirror |
| 12:12.04 | do3mca | mh. |
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| 12:12.36 | do3mca | yeah |
| 12:12.41 | do3mca | i will think about that |
| 12:13.50 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: so my advice prevailed? yay! :p |
| 12:14.07 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: vista? |
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| 12:14.25 | Zhinjio | yeah, but I'll nuke that as soon as it gets here. |
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| 12:14.36 | sylvanaar | WTB GC for LUA (source formatter |
| 12:14.47 | Zhinjio | I got a very similar laptop for my wife abotu six months ago, and she's been very happy with it. |
| 12:15.02 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: congrats on the new box then :) |
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| 12:15.33 | Zhinjio | I can't wait to be able to dual box and test plugin comm stuff without having to get up and use my wife's machine(s) |
| 12:15.41 | Zhinjio | my old laptop is a pos. |
| 12:16.28 | Pkekyo | my current laptop is a pos too :) |
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| 12:16.40 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 12:16.40 | CIA-12 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 12:20.08 | Pkekyo | tried connecting my laptop to my TV the other night, but the image was completely fuckedup...any ideas how to fix? :> |
| 12:21.15 | cryogen | my llaptop has hdmi <3 |
| 12:22.00 | Xinhuan | i dont' even know what resolution a standard TV is ;p |
| 12:22.11 | cryogen | it varies considerably |
| 12:22.15 | cryogen | there is no "standard" |
| 12:22.23 | cryogen | but most non HD TVs are likely to do no more than 800x600 |
| 12:22.55 | Xinhuan | well the TV stations transmit programmes at a standard resolution right? |
| 12:23.12 | cryogen | yes, which is NTSC or PAL depending on where you live |
| 12:23.19 | Xinhuan | yeah what resolution are those |
| 12:23.33 | cryogen | pal is 5xx, dont remember exqctly |
| 12:23.57 | cryogen | but thats what i based 800x600 off |
| 12:24.21 | Xinhuan | so what happens if the TV resolution doesn't match the received resolution? |
| 12:24.34 | cryogen | it looks shit :) |
| 12:24.35 | Pkekyo | I've got some 32" HD-Ready widescreen TV...was using S-Video to connect... |
| 12:24.58 | cryogen | Pkekyo: what res where you trying to use? |
| 12:24.59 | Pkekyo | the image wasn't skewed or anything, it just lacked alot of detail (couldn't read text properly etc) |
| 12:25.11 | Pkekyo | cryogen: 1024x768 and 1280x1024 |
| 12:25.19 | cryogen | yeah, thats actually about right |
| 12:25.27 | cryogen | for some reason Tvs suck as at displaying PC output |
| 12:25.29 | Pkekyo | piece of shit laptop doesn't support anything higher than 1024 |
| 12:25.43 | cryogen | more likely your tv doesnt |
| 12:25.53 | Pkekyo | it could go up to 1600 on the 2nd monitor (tv) though |
| 12:26.08 | CIA-12 | 03zhinjio * r51485 10/branches/SuicideKingsGeo-Secure/ (33 files in 2 dirs): |
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| 12:26.10 | cryogen | ah |
| 12:26.26 | Pkekyo | is it S-Video that's screwed up or? |
| 12:26.33 | cryogen | it doesnt help |
| 12:26.35 | Xinhuan | lol except that commit isn't on the branches |
| 12:26.48 | cryogen | svideo kinda sucks |
| 12:26.49 | Hjalte | If I change specialization in tailoring, I will be able to keep my gear unless i unequip it, right? |
| 12:26.51 | cryogen | but thats not the whole problem |
| 12:26.58 | Pkekyo | cryogen: what should I use then? |
| 12:27.06 | cryogen | i et if you played a movie on your pc through the tv, it would look awesome |
| 12:27.11 | cryogen | bet* |
| 12:27.29 | Pkekyo | I played some stuff off youtube, looked rather good when at a distance tbh |
| 12:27.54 | cryogen | Pkekyo: well i hook mine up via HDMI, the text is no better |
| 12:27.59 | cryogen | but i have some hd content.. and that looks sweet |
| 12:28.04 | cryogen | its just the way stuff is output i guess |
| 12:28.19 | Pkekyo | it's an old piece of shit laptop, don't have HDMI on it :< |
| 12:28.30 | Xinhuan | well you are reducing a 1024x768 image on your laptop to something like 500x300 on the TV |
| 12:28.33 | Xinhuan | of course it'll look shit |
| 12:28.49 | cryogen | Xinhuan: he has a HD tho, which in theory shoudl do 1024x768 native |
| 12:28.50 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: how'd you figure I'm reducing it? |
| 12:28.51 | cryogen | *in theory* |
| 12:29.03 | Xinhuan | i'm assuming the tv resolution is small |
| 12:29.08 | Xinhuan | and only accepts PAL or NTSC |
| 12:29.16 | Pkekyo | nah, it could go up to 1600 or something |
| 12:29.32 | cryogen | yeah but anything that isnt its native resoluation will be interpolated |
| 12:29.33 | cryogen | and suck complete ass |
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| 12:29.59 | cryogen | i guees the tv isnt matching itself to the outputed resolution |
| 12:30.04 | cryogen | its expecting low res content |
| 12:30.07 | cryogen | and you're feeding it high res |
| 12:30.09 | Pkekyo | so no, it's nothing like 500x300... looks like 1024x768 imo |
| 12:30.11 | Zhinjio | Alright, I think I'm going to go kill people in bioshock. Y'all have a good night. |
| 12:30.18 | Pkekyo | gl hf Zhinjio |
| 12:30.24 | Zhinjio | you betcha. |
| 12:30.47 | Pkekyo | dunno why, but I couldn't be arsed to run though bioshock a second time |
| 12:31.00 | Wobin | just wrench everything to death |
| 12:31.04 | cryogen | Pkekyo: does your tv not have DSUB input? |
| 12:31.11 | Pkekyo | Wobin: that's what I did |
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| 12:31.16 | Pkekyo | cryogen: laymans terms please? |
| 12:31.26 | cryogen | the blue connector |
| 12:31.30 | cryogen | normal vga |
| 12:31.39 | Pkekyo | sec, gonna run downstairs and have a look |
| 12:31.47 | cryogen | might be marked as "PC" |
| 12:31.57 | cryogen | if you're lucky and have a good tv, it might even have DVI |
| 12:32.09 | Wobin | I might get bioshock |
| 12:32.15 | Wobin | but that would involve installing windows |
| 12:32.18 | Wobin | >, |
| 12:32.19 | Wobin | >< |
| 12:33.08 | Pkekyo | 2x HDMI, 2x Scart, alot of coax stuff and one S-Vid |
| 12:33.28 | cryogen | no vga or dvi? |
| 12:34.02 | Pkekyo | well, there's one that said DVI, but it was only two coax holes (red/white).... there's a blue coax-ish hole too, but dunno wtf that one is |
| 12:34.16 | cryogen | that'll be component video |
| 12:34.24 | cryogen | the dvi will be for audio |
| 12:34.33 | cryogen | so you might have dvi video too and just not see it |
| 12:34.53 | Pkekyo | DVI video? what would it look like? |
| 12:35.00 | cryogen | the thing is, your pc outputs video at a certain resolution, and im not sure if SVIDEO can carry the resolution information to the tv or not |
| 12:35.05 | cryogen | i dont know that mucha about svideo |
| 12:35.13 | cryogen | DVI is kinda like a joystick or midi connector |
| 12:35.16 | cryogen | with lots of pins |
| 12:35.20 | cryogen | and a horizontal pin at one side |
| 12:35.31 | Pkekyo | I know what I need to know about S-vid: it sucks :p it's the only thing I need to know tbh |
| 12:35.33 | Pkekyo | brb then |
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| 12:36.38 | Wobin | http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Digital_Visual_Interface_DVI_Bus.html |
| 12:36.49 | kenlyric | it looks almost exactly but not quite like a parallel/printer port connection. |
| 12:36.56 | cryogen | was just trying to get the link to the pic on that page |
| 12:36.58 | cryogen | but ie sucks :) |
| 12:37.04 | Pkekyo | nah, but I found some keyhole of some sort on the back of it O.o |
| 12:37.04 | Wobin | http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_DVI_24pin_Connector.gif |
| 12:37.14 | Wobin | Pkekyo: Maybe it leads to Narnia |
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| 12:37.17 | cryogen | lol |
| 12:37.31 | cryogen | anyway, if its a hd tv youwill more than certainly have component input |
| 12:37.33 | kenlyric | don't put toy indians inside. |
| 12:37.36 | cryogen | (r/g/b) |
| 12:37.43 | cryogen | if you have that you can get a VGA -> component cable |
| 12:37.48 | Pkekyo | Wobin: I'd wish...would probably just disable the piece of shit |
| 12:37.48 | cryogen | that may not help, but it'll be the best you can get |
| 12:37.58 | Wobin | kenlyric: oh man, I haven't thought of that book in ages =) |
| 12:38.06 | Pkekyo | cryogen: would that be the blue coax-looking thingie? |
| 12:38.10 | Wobin | kenlyric: It's on par with a mouse on a toy motorcycle =) |
| 12:38.13 | cryogen | theres 3 together |
| 12:38.15 | Pkekyo | and it's not a full hd tv, but that HD-Ready scam |
| 12:38.18 | cryogen | one red one green and one blue |
| 12:38.18 | Wobin | . o O ("vroom") |
| 12:38.23 | kenlyric | well, close, but not on par :) |
| 12:38.25 | cryogen | even HD ready include component :) |
| 12:38.32 | kenlyric | mouses on motorcycles are clearly superior |
| 12:38.37 | Wobin | True |
| 12:38.39 | Pkekyo | sod it, I'll go have a look again then |
| 12:38.43 | kenlyric | YES I SAID MOUSES! |
| 12:38.44 | cryogen | hehe |
| 12:38.48 | Wobin | Yes you did =) |
| 12:38.50 | cryogen | it jmight even be 5 together |
| 12:38.54 | cryogen | red, gree, blue, red, white |
| 12:38.59 | cryogen | red and white being for audio |
| 12:39.31 | cryogen | or you can find out the model of the tv and google a manual :) |
| 12:39.55 | Pkekyo | yeah, I've got the RGB coax-looking thingies...and a red/white dvi audio thingie somewhere else on it |
| 12:40.03 | cryogen | aye |
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| 12:40.15 | Wobin | Pkekyo: Take a photo of the back of your TV and post it up =P |
| 12:40.26 | cryogen | thats the best you are gonna get, VGA(DSUB) -> component(rgb, but it wont be labeled as rgb) |
| 12:40.30 | cryogen | it'll be Yu/something |
| 12:40.39 | cryogen | yu/pb/ck |
| 12:40.41 | cryogen | or something |
| 12:40.43 | Pkekyo | meh, mirror reflex cam is out of batteries...it'll have to be an mms pic |
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| 12:42.15 | cryogen | anyway heading back to work, bb in anything from 10 mins to an hour and ahalf, depending on if my boss grabs me for my appraisal or not :) |
| 12:42.29 | Pkekyo | gl hf cryogen |
| 12:44.31 | Pkekyo | uploading some pics atm |
| 12:46.42 | Pkekyo | Wobin: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2042/dsc00062wm0.jpg + http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7894/dsc00063rg6.jpg |
| 12:47.41 | Pkekyo | sorry about the quality, but can't be arsed to clean my phone's camera lens |
| 12:49.57 | Wobin | looks pretty scarty |
| 12:50.18 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.45 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:50.48 | Pkekyo | yeah, it've got two scart connectors |
| 12:51.20 | Wobin | I'm not sure what you can use, tbh |
| 12:51.21 | silentium | apart from HDMI, the Pr/Pb/Y is probably the best quality connection you can use |
| 12:51.26 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:51.44 | Pkekyo | aye, but then I've got to get some VGA --> Componet cable...meh |
| 12:52.03 | Pkekyo | the audio should be regular coax/aux cable, no? |
| 12:52.20 | silentium | the red/white/yellow stuff combines the 3 video signals in one cable, which is obviously inferiour |
| 12:52.34 | Pkekyo | yeah, it's for my n64 mostly :p |
| 12:53.19 | Pkekyo | curse that neighbour cunt for destroying my SNES |
| 12:55.01 | Pkekyo | but the red/white audio connectors...I can use regular aux cable for it? |
| 12:55.05 | cryogen | Pkekyo: yeah you want a VGA -> component connector |
| 12:55.08 | cryogen | and ye |
| 12:55.08 | cryogen | s |
| 12:55.12 | Pkekyo | yay :) |
| 12:55.14 | cryogen | red/white is a normal phono input |
| 12:55.37 | Pkekyo | phono = aux? |
| 12:55.40 | cryogen | ye |
| 12:55.42 | cryogen | lots of names for it |
| 12:55.52 | Pkekyo | yeah, it confuses me :< |
| 12:56.09 | cryogen | its basically a dual plug cable on both ends :) |
| 12:56.12 | Pkekyo | aux? no, fuck you, I'm using phono! <--- you both suck, coax = win! :p |
| 12:56.39 | cryogen | coax usually has a different connector on the end |
| 12:56.48 | Pkekyo | really? |
| 12:56.56 | cryogen | like normal external ariel |
| 12:57.09 | cryogen | but old computer network cables also use coax |
| 12:57.14 | cryogen | so it just gets complicated :p |
| 12:57.18 | Pkekyo | ariel? the little mermaid? |
| 12:57.19 | Pkekyo | something tells me I ought to update my techno lingo |
| 12:57.19 | silentium | coax always reminds me of those old 10 MBit BNC network cards |
| 12:57.31 | cryogen | i think the connector that we are referring to here is called 'phono' |
| 12:57.42 | cryogen | im sure there's a freaking ISO number somewhere :p |
| 12:57.46 | cryogen | ask wikipedia :D |
| 12:58.45 | cryogen | but ye, svideo is like mashing 3 signals down one cable, so it kinda sucks |
| 12:59.04 | cryogen | i dont know if component will help it suck less, but its the best you can do if you wanted to |
| 12:59.11 | Pkekyo | fine, I'll see if I can't afford a VGA --> component cable then |
| 12:59.48 | cryogen | just be aware that i have hdmi with native HD resolutions and i still wouldnt use my tv for browsing the web or irc :) |
| 12:59.52 | cryogen | movies on the other hand.. <3 |
| 13:00.09 | silentium | well, the best solution would obviously be a video card with HDMI output ;) |
| 13:00.15 | cryogen | thats what my notebook does |
| 13:00.16 | Pkekyo | cryogen: yeah, it's movies I'm focused on as well, but hell, would be nice to be able to pop msn or such if needed |
| 13:00.19 | cryogen | but its still not great |
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| 13:00.48 | Pkekyo | silentium: old IBM laptops didn't come with that :< |
| 13:01.17 | silentium | I see |
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| 13:01.17 | CIA-12 | Note: On some rare ocasions LibCD_(Equipped)ItemCooldownEnd may fire with wrong (outdated) item location (slotID, bagID). (Will be fixed soon) |
| 13:01.17 | cryogen | its a new thing on dx10 video cards |
| 13:01.17 | Pkekyo | yeah |
| 13:01.28 | Pkekyo | and I can't afford that crap...specially after I went berserk at the store this morning |
| 13:01.35 | cryogen | :) |
| 13:01.44 | cryogen | my notebook was surprisingly cheap |
| 13:01.48 | cryogen | but i bought it a couple of months ago now |
| 13:02.43 | cryogen | its surprisingly reasonable performance, too |
| 13:02.52 | Pkekyo | tbh, my laptop is just some crap I'm leasing from my school...need it to get through my studies... |
| 13:02.52 | Pkekyo | originally I only use this tower<3 |
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| 13:03.12 | cryogen | well i have a wife and kids, so i cant afford to spend too much time in my room on my own :D |
| 13:03.39 | cryogen | a "necessary expense", you might say |
| 13:04.06 | kenlyric | the item stat mod is pretty smart. it calculates mana regen from aspect of the viper. But I wonder if it uses the old static value, or an average or min/max of the new value. |
| 13:04.19 | do3mca | *cough* |
| 13:04.33 | cryogen | do3mca: shh |
| 13:04.37 | do3mca | hehe |
| 13:04.45 | kenlyric | cryogen: or move your computer into the living room :) |
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| 13:05.05 | Pkekyo | cryogen: true, but that beats beeing a broke student sitting in a dark room anyday ;) |
| 13:05.22 | cryogen | kenlyric: maybe :) |
| 13:05.27 | cryogen | its not really big enough though |
| 13:05.35 | cryogen | and the kids would destroy it |
| 13:05.38 | SunTsu | do3mca: Please, don't play the "I'm a father, too"-joker. You are a geek family, that doesn't count ;) |
| 13:05.44 | kenlyric | I did that for a while, but moved it back this summer. |
| 13:06.01 | cryogen | when i say "kids" the youngest is 9 months old :) |
| 13:06.13 | Pkekyo | I would never move my tower into the livingroom... it's a chieftech bigtower... huge black slab of metal that weigh 20kg when stripped of all removable parts and components |
| 13:06.41 | Trell_ | cryogen - I had that problem when my son was born, he was forever switching the tower off at inopportune times |
| 13:06.59 | Pkekyo | now that tower would be great to have in the livingroom if you had kids...if they'd manage to make it fall over it'd fucking crush them O.o |
| 13:07.24 | kenlyric | everyone must serve evolution in their own way. |
| 13:07.31 | Pkekyo | lol |
| 13:07.43 | cryogen | lol |
| 13:07.45 | SunTsu | Trell_: Well, put a lock on the switch, that will teach your son valuable things for live. Lockpicking for instance |
| 13:07.52 | kenlyric | we're breeding a race of people who stick metal objects into plugsockets. |
| 13:08.18 | Pkekyo | SunTsu: indeed |
| 13:08.20 | kenlyric | every house should have a low-voltage fake plugsocket for their children to test on. |
| 13:08.28 | cryogen | he just likes to attack my mouse |
| 13:08.30 | winkiller | lol |
| 13:08.31 | Pkekyo | you could also wire it to electricity and give him a little jolt, Trell_ |
| 13:08.33 | cryogen | because its opitcal and he like the shiney light |
| 13:08.42 | cryogen | he also likes to put fingerprints on the lcd |
| 13:08.43 | cryogen | which is nice |
| 13:08.56 | Pkekyo | lol, indeed |
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| 13:10.12 | Pkekyo | was babysitting last week...I've cleaned my laptop display three times allready, and the greasy fingerprints aren't gone yet |
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| 13:10.17 | Pkekyo | it's a fucking nightmare |
| 13:10.36 | Pkekyo | oh, well...atleast the parts of the display he didn't touch are really really shiny now... |
| 13:10.46 | cryogen | heheh |
| 13:11.03 | cryogen | yeah, its mildly annoying :) |
| 13:11.04 | Trell_ | its ok, he's 3 now |
| 13:11.18 | Trell_ | more interested in telling me when im dead on wow |
| 13:11.23 | cryogen | lol |
| 13:11.32 | Trell_ | DADDY DEAD |
| 13:11.33 | cryogen | my 4 year old does that |
| 13:11.35 | Trell_ | its quite disturbing |
| 13:11.37 | cryogen | "dont get deaded" |
| 13:11.39 | Pkekyo | hahah |
| 13:11.45 | cryogen | or "dont get died" |
| 13:11.51 | cryogen | or "ITS A CAT!" |
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| 13:11.59 | cryogen | "daddy why did you kill that cat" |
| 13:12.03 | Trell_ | yeah thats another favourite of my sons |
| 13:12.08 | Trell_ | when im levelling in stv |
| 13:12.14 | Trell_ | he demands i kill all the dinosaurs |
| 13:12.16 | cryogen | haha |
| 13:12.22 | SunTsu | Trell_: Do you play alliance or horde? |
| 13:12.23 | Trell_ | goes mad if i refuse to kill them |
| 13:12.26 | Trell_ | alliance |
| 13:12.59 | cryogen | one day i will teach her how to level alts for me |
| 13:13.00 | SunTsu | Trell_: Then be aware - at one point he will yell "For the horde" when you die |
| 13:13.08 | Trell_ | as if |
| 13:13.21 | cryogen | heh |
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| 13:14.52 | winkiller | haha, reminds me of the guy that posted because his child cried after seeeing a moonkin |
| 13:15.09 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 13:15.11 | SunTsu | winkiller: Well, who doesn't? |
| 13:15.13 | Balstor | anyone know if Cncfanatics still wanders into this irc channel? |
| 13:15.23 | Pkekyo | I love the fluffy boomkins of impending doom<3 |
| 13:15.26 | SunTsu | Balstor: He alt least did so yesterday |
| 13:15.27 | Pkekyo | Balstor: he does |
| 13:15.28 | Fisker- | he does Balstor |
| 13:15.32 | winkiller | I remember that kid that went mental after seeing one of my magic cards |
| 13:15.32 | Fisker- | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 13:15.36 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@233.158-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 16h 22m 52s ago, saying: 'hope I can track that clicks being eaten issue tomorrow'. |
| 13:15.36 | Pkekyo | ~cncfanatics |
| 13:15.36 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, cncfanatics is the flexbar2 author |
| 13:15.42 | winkiller | almost started crying because of the picture |
| 13:16.08 | Pkekyo | winkiller: what picture? |
| 13:16.28 | Balstor | thanks, time to camp the channel /raise tent |
| 13:16.31 | winkiller | on every magic card there's a picture of the spell/creature |
| 13:16.36 | Pkekyo | gl hf Balstor |
| 13:16.39 | winkiller | painting. on a trading game card |
| 13:16.43 | Pkekyo | winkiller: yeah, but which one? |
| 13:16.53 | winkiller | don't remember |
| 13:16.57 | winkiller | that was 5 years ago |
| 13:17.01 | winkiller | or more |
| 13:17.03 | Pkekyo | ah |
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| 13:17.17 | cryogen | Balstor: he usually surfaces around now |
| 13:17.54 | Pkekyo | is it morning or evening in the us atm? |
| 13:18.05 | cryogen | late morningish |
| 13:18.09 | Balstor | mornng in us around 8am |
| 13:18.10 | cryogen | depends where |
| 13:18.40 | cryogen | in some parts it will be very early :) |
| 13:19.09 | Pkekyo | I always forget if US is behind or infront of my timezone >.< |
| 13:19.31 | cryogen | US starts at UTC-5 |
| 13:19.39 | cryogen | goes as far as -9 i think |
| 13:19.40 | cryogen | maybe further |
| 13:20.01 | Pkekyo | I'm at +1 the last time I checked |
| 13:20.16 | cryogen | then you must be a UKian |
| 13:20.25 | Pkekyo | noes |
| 13:20.26 | cryogen | or perhaps you mean +2 :) |
| 13:20.33 | Pkekyo | UK are at 0 mostly, no? |
| 13:20.38 | cryogen | uk is currently in +1 (summer time) |
| 13:20.51 | Pkekyo | hmm, paris should be +1 |
| 13:21.00 | cryogen | it is, outside of DST :) |
| 13:21.13 | Pkekyo | DST? |
| 13:21.16 | Pkekyo | lolswut |
| 13:21.24 | cryogen | daylight savings |
| 13:21.25 | cryogen | :p |
| 13:21.25 | Pkekyo | I need to sharpen my abbrevation knowledge |
| 13:22.20 | Balstor | just pull a Venezuela stunt and make your own private time zone |
| 13:22.28 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 13:22.50 | Pkekyo | "My house is in +193 GMT and there's nothing you can do about it, screw you all!" xD |
| 13:23.20 | Recluse | dst is archaic. wish they'd do away with it |
| 13:23.43 | Pkekyo | it awesome...one night/year I get an extra hour of sleep! |
| 13:23.56 | Recluse | and in exchange one night you also lose one |
| 13:24.06 | Pkekyo | well, I hardly sleep anyways...goddamn insomnia xD |
| 13:24.11 | Recluse | lol |
| 13:24.48 | Pkekyo | don't think I've slept an entire night since I turned 15 |
| 13:26.00 | CIA-12 | 03andryk * r51487 10FuBar_AbramsFu/ (AbramsFu.lua FuBar_AbramsFu.toc): FuBar_AbramsFu: Fixed .toc and the Parry and Dodge chances. |
| 13:26.08 | winkiller | o_O |
| 13:26.14 | winkiller | gj on surviving |
| 13:26.23 | Pkekyo | winkiller: thanks lol |
| 13:26.36 | dafire | Pkekyo: so it was your birthday yesterday ? |
| 13:26.39 | cryogen | heh |
| 13:26.46 | Pkekyo | dafire: I turned 18 this february :) |
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| 13:28.45 | Balstor | be back goto to go jog this will keep yall busy http://icanhascheezburger.com/ |
| 13:28.52 | Pkekyo | laters |
| 13:29.00 | Pkekyo | also,l that page is full of win and awesome until the end of time |
| 13:29.12 | dafire | ha .. i read the feet from that page in my google reader .9 |
| 13:29.43 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51488 10GridStatusHealer/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 13:29.43 | CIA-12 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 13:29.43 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 13:29.52 | dafire | this is my favorite : http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/i-has-a-mentle-ilnus.jpg |
| 13:30.31 | Pkekyo | the "Dude... Wait, what?" is my favourite :) |
| 13:31.08 | dafire | yeah.. thats also nice.. :9 |
| 13:31.17 | Pkekyo | I love it...it's so much like me lol |
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| 13:31.27 | dafire | that hairy ? ;) |
| 13:32.24 | Pkekyo | well, not entirely...my hair is alot shorter, 'cause I always wear a beanie, and long hair = hot as hell inside a beanie |
| 13:32.32 | Pkekyo | but my beard used to be pretty extensive, aye |
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| 13:41.11 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r619 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added 20_21_Darkshore.lua in .toc, confirmed working |
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| 13:46.07 | mikma | heh sorry, 20_21_Darkshore.lua = 21_22_Ashenvale.lua :I copypasted wrong file |
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| 13:59.36 | kenlyric | what is this thing? |
| 14:01.00 | kenlyric | sorry, no. |
| 14:01.04 | kenlyric | http://lolthulhu.com/2007/06/29/ur-sanity-has-a-flavor/ |
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| 14:03.31 | Sirow | dev.wowace.com down but svn.wowace.com working? :-| |
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| 14:06.01 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51489 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2_Container.lua containers/Sandbox.lua): |
| 14:06.01 | CIA-12 | Buffalo2: |
| 14:06.01 | CIA-12 | * Kicked out assertion, it's not needed anymore |
| 14:06.01 | CIA-12 | * updated Sandbox |
| 14:06.56 | Sirow | hm obviously not .. |
| 14:07.56 | Balstor | It may be hot as hell outside |
| 14:09.12 | Balstor | 80 degrees 90% Humidity |
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| 14:09.47 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r51490 10Ace3/AceLocale-3.0/AceLocale-3.0.lua: |
| 14:09.47 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceLocale |
| 14:09.47 | CIA-12 | - Fix errors in Kaeltens cleanup |
| 14:09.47 | CIA-12 | - Restore intended GAME_LOCALE functionality and make more comments about it |
| 14:09.47 | CIA-12 | RUN THE DAMN TEST CASES PEOPLE, THEY'RE THERE FOR A RESASON! |
| 14:11.22 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r620 10/trunk/TourGuide/TourGuide.toc: renamed some files |
| 14:11.39 | do3mca | gnihi |
| 14:11.50 | zerokarmaleft | doing an anon svn co of GridStatusHealer, and it's asking for a developer passwd when fetching threatlib |
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| 14:12.37 | do3mca | seems someone set externals wrong |
| 14:13.12 | jon_a | hi i'm just learning the code for uui interface could someone talk me through a bit of code please |
| 14:14.47 | zerokarmaleft | do3mca: trac appears to be down, where can i file a bug? |
| 14:15.22 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r621 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/ (4 files): and here are the filerenames |
| 14:17.17 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r51491 10Ace3/tests/ (AceTimer-3.0-test1.lua AceTimer-3.0-test2.lua): |
| 14:17.17 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - tests |
| 14:17.17 | CIA-12 | - Fix up AceTimer tests cases after move |
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| 14:18.52 | jon_a | can somebody tell me what the "in pairs" part of a for statement does please |
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| 14:20.11 | Kaydeethree | new live patch! current build: 7359. diff at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 14:20.46 | Balstor | jon_a go here http://www.wowwiki.com/API_for |
| 14:21.02 | Balstor | second example |
| 14:22.20 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r51492 10Ace3/tests/runall.bat: |
| 14:22.20 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - tests |
| 14:22.20 | CIA-12 | - Add a "runall.bat" that executes all tests in the folder |
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| 14:25.54 | Nimbal | Hi all |
| 14:26.17 | Grum | haha mikk seems happy :D |
| 14:26.56 | Nimbal | Does someone know an addon that can inspect LUA tables and display their contents in -game? For debugging? |
| 14:28.01 | cryogen | ireil's devtools can /dump stuff |
| 14:29.29 | kebinusan | well 2.2.3 is out, wonder if I'll be able to enable game sound w/o having to deal with WOW's speech impediment |
| 14:30.42 | vhaarr | Nimbal: AceConsole-2.0 has /print, DevTools has /dump, and there's tekProber on the wowace svn |
| 14:31.00 | vhaarr | think that was the name |
| 14:31.21 | Nimbal | Thanks you two. I'll have a look at it. |
| 14:31.38 | vhaarr | You'll probably want tekProber, I suggest you check it out first. |
| 14:32.24 | Nimbal | But first I have to kick my router. Or is it coincidence that wowace.com, curse and wowinterface.com are all sluggish? |
| 14:32.34 | nevcairiel | AceConsole has /dump too |
| 14:33.01 | nevcairiel | but it doesnt overwrite devtools /dump |
| 14:33.03 | vhaarr | not if devtools is present |
| 14:33.07 | vhaarr | don't be a retard nev |
| 14:33.13 | nevcairiel | see my line |
| 14:33.14 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:33.16 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 14:33.37 | nevcairiel | just saying, if you only want /dump, no need for devtools |
| 14:33.50 | do3mca | there seems to also be some fubar plugin for dumpin |
| 14:33.50 | do3mca | g |
| 14:34.30 | kenlyric | shitfu? |
| 14:34.42 | Nimbal | brb |
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| 14:35.48 | do3mca | fubar_debuggerfu i would assume |
| 14:36.11 | do3mca | WheresMyCow. nice mod name =) |
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| 14:47.23 | Holgi | hi all! |
| 14:47.41 | Holgi | i know that files.wowace.com is down. are there any mirrors out there? |
| 14:49.32 | do3mca | it is? |
| 14:49.48 | do3mca | seems up for me |
| 14:49.58 | otravi | it's up here also |
| 14:50.38 | Holgi | ok, i try again |
| 14:51.35 | Pkekyo | anyone experienced with gruul/mulgaur tanking here? |
| 14:53.12 | Holgi | ok, it seems that the gateways from germany to overseas have troubles... |
| 14:53.24 | Holgi | yes, i tank gruul/maulgar with my druid, pkekyo |
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| 14:53.55 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 14:53.55 | Pkekyo | think I'm up to the task? |
| 14:53.58 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 14935 HP; 15835 Armour; 678 AP; 134.600 Melee DPS; 11.62% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 12 +spell dmg/heal; 326 defense; 18.71% dodge; 29.85% block; 4 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1401 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2479ww ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpbe8 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 10:55:18 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:54.22 | do3mca | !c eu forscherliga ukeer |
| 14:54.24 | ThraeBot | do3mca: Ukeer, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (53/0/8). 5414 HP; 6905 Mana; 231 mana regen; 61 mp5; 3.36% melee crit; 52 spell crit; 302 +spell dmg; 423 +heal; 4.19% dodge;[[ TBR: 1044 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/286xpo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33fnun ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 10:55:44 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:54.36 | do3mca | :| |
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| 14:56.15 | Holgi | yes, sure, pkekyo. but put better gems in your equip. |
| 14:56.45 | Pkekyo | Holgi: like what? |
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| 14:57.06 | Holgi | you have 9 stam gems in there. take 12 stam gems. |
| 14:57.11 | cryogen | do3mca: how do you have more healing than +dmg? |
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| 14:57.32 | Holgi | and make sure, you have a shaman, a warlock and a paladin in your group |
| 14:57.33 | Pkekyo | Holgi: not gonna pop 12 stam gems for that chest :< |
| 14:57.41 | Holgi | you need every bit of stamina |
| 14:57.48 | Pkekyo | s/that chest/those shoulders/ |
| 14:57.58 | Holgi | :) |
| 14:58.16 | Holgi | !c eu perenolde bellthane |
| 14:58.20 | ThraeBot | Holgi: Bellthane, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 8554 HP; 5420 Mana; 122 mana regen; 18 mp5; 4445 Armour; 1188 AP; 167.300 Melee DPS; 25.67% melee crit; 98 melee hit; 37.48% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1302 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2e27v9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39bv38 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 10:59:40 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:58.23 | Pkekyo | piece of shit lvl 68 pvp questrewards |
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| 14:59.41 | cryogen | ThraeBot should calculate bear hp/armour if its a feral druid |
| 14:59.47 | do3mca | stu: two or three items which give +heal only |
| 14:59.57 | do3mca | http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=18470 |
| 14:59.59 | do3mca | like that |
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| 15:00.30 | do3mca | oh. i should put the relict in my use bar actually |
| 15:00.52 | cryogen | get a better one! |
| 15:00.52 | do3mca | +213 for 20 secs seems like a nice lifesaver |
| 15:01.00 | do3mca | stu: if i find one, i will |
| 15:02.01 | do3mca | iam 70 for like what? one week? |
| 15:02.11 | cryogen | you are? |
| 15:02.13 | cryogen | ok then :) |
| 15:02.28 | do3mca | and i didnt raid since scholo/strat |
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| 15:03.39 | do3mca | what actually impresses me is the coolness of armory xml+xsl |
| 15:04.10 | cryogen | everyone ive seen comment about it always whines how it is the worst use of AJAX they have ever seen :p |
| 15:04.19 | cryogen | but ye i quite like it |
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| 15:05.59 | do3mca | ohwell, maybe the xsl stylesheet sucks |
| 15:06.54 | do3mca | but the xml makes it easy to parse |
| 15:07.54 | Pkekyo | anyone got a link to 2.2.3 patchnotes? |
| 15:08.35 | cryogen | "some sound stuff fixed" sums it up quite well |
| 15:08.58 | do3mca | http://www.world-of-warcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 15:09.19 | Pkekyo | damn...mistook it for 2.3 :< |
| 15:09.37 | Balstor | to bad blizzard didn't listen to all the testers that told them sound was broken |
| 15:09.53 | do3mca | 2.3 patchnotes are spread around the forums |
| 15:10.13 | do3mca | the interface forum for example has several notes on how the lua api is being changed |
| 15:12.07 | do3mca | holy... 160 pages of ui screenies? sick :) |
| 15:12.09 | kebinusan | mmo-champion.com has a nice compilation of the 2.3 patch notes |
| 15:12.27 | Bibi | and it's a great site. |
| 15:12.43 | kebinusan | Im hoping that DC bug mentioned in 2.2.3 will mean I stop getting dc'd when zoning into tk |
| 15:12.52 | kebinusan | so damn annoying |
| 15:12.56 | Balstor | where is my interface to how drunk a player is so I can write a drinking game addon for WoW??? |
| 15:14.12 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r51493 10Enhancer/locale/Localization-koKR.lua: |
| 15:14.12 | CIA-12 | Enhancer: |
| 15:14.12 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR (Not Complete) |
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| 15:14.49 | Trell_ | i'm gonna go ahead and equip myself with a little...FOUR WHEELS OF FURY! |
| 15:15.03 | Trell_ | so so funny, even on about the 8th watch |
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| 15:15.51 | kebinusan | Trell_: yaI love that commercial |
| 15:16.17 | kenlyric | i'm surprised there hasn't been a general protest against brewfest. |
| 15:16.27 | Trell_ | its just so hilarious |
| 15:16.29 | kenlyric | drinking and driving is UNCOOL |
| 15:17.12 | kebinusan | I hate looking at 20 VR kills and 1 cowl of the grand engineer dropping |
| 15:17.23 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather rheea |
| 15:17.27 | kebinusan | kenlyric: thats why god invented dave and busters |
| 15:17.27 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Rheea, Level 70 Undead Mage (40/21/0). 10133 HP; 10541 Mana; 125 mana regen; 19 mp5; 205 spell crit; 69 spell hit; 899 +spell dmg; 4.94% dodge; 378 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1189 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yutnht ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q6dms ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 11:18:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:17.38 | Balstor | funny enough riding an animal and drinking is drunk driving, it's failur to maintain control over an animal (case was in Colorado Springs) |
| 15:17.40 | kebinusan | nothing like getting smashed and hopping into a race car game |
| 15:17.43 | alext | kebinusan: dont get discouraged |
| 15:17.49 | Balstor | funny enough riding an animal and drinking is NOT drunk driving, it's failur to maintain control over an animal (case was in Colorado Springs) |
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| 15:17.52 | alext | i think we have 5 kills on VR and its dropped 3 times |
| 15:18.08 | kebinusan | heheh, yeah random loot is fun |
| 15:18.11 | alext | yah ;[ |
| 15:18.15 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r622 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added 22_23_Stonetalon_Mountains.lua in .toc, works |
| 15:18.18 | Balstor | hmm I can't type today off to lunch ( Warrior needs coffee badly) |
| 15:18.28 | kenlyric | can anyone explain tourguide? |
| 15:18.41 | kenlyric | is it a guide that tours? |
| 15:18.45 | kenlyric | or a tour that guides? |
| 15:19.11 | Trell_ | its neither |
| 15:19.29 | Trell_ | its a sexy female that talks you through well known landmarks in azeroth. |
| 15:19.33 | Trell_ | and eastern kigndoms. |
| 15:19.57 | Trell_ | if you look to your left, you'll see the goblin town of gadgetzan, and so on. |
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| 15:21.12 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r623 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/17_18_Loch_Modan.lua: forgot to add next part into this one. fixed |
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| 15:26.48 | Shinja | hi |
| 15:29.12 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r624 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/ (20_21_Darkshore.lua 18_20_Redridge_Mountains.lua): small changes, mainly removed 'grind to level xx' notes |
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| 15:31.41 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51494 10AutomaticLFG/AutomaticLFG.lua: |
| 15:31.41 | CIA-12 | AutomaticLFG: |
| 15:31.41 | CIA-12 | - Removed 1 spammy status message |
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| 15:34.58 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51495 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2.lua Buffalo2_Buff.lua): Buffalo2: If I see one more duplicate buff, I'll kill it, I swear! *runs after twin-buffs with an axe in his hands* |
| 15:35.27 | |Stan| | ~whaleparry Nimbal |
| 15:35.27 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Nimbal's attacks. |
| 15:35.53 | Nimbal | Oo |
| 15:36.10 | MoonWolf | i should try tourguide sometime |
| 15:36.26 | hyperChipmunk | >8D whaleparry is one of mine |
| 15:36.41 | MoonWolf | ~whalenuke hyperChipmunk |
| 15:36.42 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around hyperChipmunk with his mind powers |
| 15:36.50 | Shinja | Hi, is there a way to have the pixel height from a ojbect created via CreateFontString ? |
| 15:36.51 | MoonWolf | I don't know who made that one, but i like it. |
| 15:37.12 | durcyn | Nimbal: er, it's actually needed sometimes. Remote Toy comes to mind. |
| 15:38.03 | Nimbal | durcyn: Yes, but I think these "duplicates" will have separate buff indices, right? |
| 15:38.35 | durcyn | Nimbal: one can hope |
| 15:38.47 | Shinja | ..and using SetFont after the CreateFontString |
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| 15:39.32 | Nimbal | Hm.. if Blizzards buff bar can show two of them, they have to. That's perfectly fine then. |
| 15:40.41 | Shinja | because GetHeight() doesn't seem to work |
| 15:41.10 | Nimbal | Shinja: Maybe via http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Font_GetFont ? |
| 15:41.28 | kebinusan | We need a rather dense leaden whale to counter the whale nuke |
| 15:42.07 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 15:42.24 | Shinja | Nimbal, damn, I've looked for a long time on wowwiki :/ thx for the tips |
| 15:42.31 | Nimbal | Is there a way to query purl for these "emotes"? |
| 15:42.37 | Nimbal | No problem :-) |
| 15:42.41 | hyperChipmunk | ~listkeys whaleshield |
| 15:43.21 | hyperChipmunk | now let's see if i remember how to do this... |
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| 15:44.25 | hyperChipmunk | purl, whaleshield is <action> summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield $who from the blast. |
| 15:44.26 | purl | hyperChipmunk: okay |
| 15:44.29 | hyperChipmunk | ~whaleshield |
| 15:44.30 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield hyperchipmunk from the blast. |
| 15:44.37 | hyperChipmunk | $ |
| 15:44.45 | cncfanatics | yo ppls |
| 15:44.57 | kebinusan | hehe |
| 15:44.58 | evl | Does addons like kEnergy work after 2.2? |
| 15:45.41 | Silviu- | Anybody have patch notes for 2.2.3 ? |
| 15:45.50 | ramoz | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1583.0 |
| 15:45.51 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ |
| 15:45.56 | Silviu- | Thx :P |
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| 15:46.00 | kebinusan | ~patchnotes |
| 15:46.14 | Bestial | ~patchnotes |
| 15:46.42 | Bestial | Is anyone a lua master here for win32? |
| 15:46.58 | hyperChipmunk | purl, patchnotes is <reply>The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ |
| 15:46.59 | purl | hyperChipmunk: okay |
| 15:47.05 | hyperChipmunk | ~patchnotes |
| 15:47.06 | purl | The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ |
| 15:47.32 | kebinusan | http://ace.pastebin.ca/730841 tho cause patch notes dont seem to be up there |
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| 15:47.42 | Nocts | So what is pitbull Fullbar? |
| 15:48.31 | Hjalte | Maybe it's pitbull with chrunched fubar on top. delicious! |
| 15:48.45 | kebinusan | From the toc, otes: Show a colorable, always full bar on the unit frame. |
| 15:48.46 | hyperChipmunk | purl, testnotes is <reply>The latest testrealm patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 15:48.47 | purl | okay, hyperChipmunk |
| 15:48.49 | kebinusan | *Notes |
| 15:48.50 | Aeyan | Looks like a background bar for hp |
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| 15:49.02 | Nocts | Solid, thank you |
| 15:49.25 | hyperChipmunk | purl, forget testnotes |
| 15:49.25 | purl | i forgot testnotes, hyperChipmunk |
| 15:49.32 | Bestial | does anyone know how to use luasocket? |
| 15:50.00 | hyperChipmunk | purl, no, patchnotes is <reply>The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ and the latest Test Realm patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 15:50.00 | purl | okay, hyperChipmunk |
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| 15:52.12 | kenlyric | headless horseman is the best boss in wow. has four upgrades for my priest. |
| 15:52.38 | kebinusan | kenlyric: Im happy the mounts arent one time use, I was going to really hate farming him nonstop for two weeks |
| 15:52.51 | kebinusan | but I wants a pumpkin pet |
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| 15:53.05 | kebinusan | [probably means I'll end up farming him nonstop for two weeks |
| 15:53.11 | kenlyric | oops, sorry, six upgrades. |
| 15:53.15 | kenlyric | forgot pet and pumpkinhead |
| 15:53.31 | kebinusan | dont think those can really count as upgrades can they :-) |
| 15:53.37 | kenlyric | I may actually do a group with my hunter for the ring at least. |
| 15:53.39 | kenlyric | yes. |
| 15:53.43 | kenlyric | anything I want is an upgrade. |
| 15:54.01 | kebinusan | where are you looking at his loot table anyway |
| 15:54.13 | kenlyric | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/september/headlessloot.jpg |
| 15:54.24 | kebinusan | tw |
| 15:54.27 | kebinusan | err |
| 15:54.29 | kebinusan | ty |
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| 15:54.46 | chexsum | omfg! |
| 15:54.58 | chexsum | i just fixed my linux to run wow |
| 15:55.03 | kenlyric | the helm is apparently equivalent to what the void reaver drops. |
| 15:55.21 | kenlyric | and the caster rings are both real upgrades for my kara priest. |
| 15:55.33 | kebinusan | the dmg ring is kinda meh |
| 15:55.58 | kenlyric | actually, with the change to healing->damage, I might just need one. |
| 15:56.00 | durcyn | o hello 2.2.3 patch |
| 15:57.02 | dreamss | is headless up yet? |
| 15:57.40 | kebinusan | hallwes end doesnt start till the 18th IIRC |
| 15:57.57 | kebinusan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/calendar/ |
| 15:58.16 | kenlyric | kebinusan: it isn't when you're a holy priest who hasn't seen a damage ring since http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29793 |
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| 15:59.55 | chexsum | bleh cant patch under linux :( |
| 16:00.21 | m4rku5 | chexsum, erm you can |
| 16:00.22 | kebinusan | chexsum: worked fine for me |
| 16:00.35 | m4rku5 | well at least i could until 2.2.2 (2.2.3 not out yet in europe) |
| 16:00.40 | m4rku5 | chexsum, what wine version are you running ? |
| 16:01.39 | kebinusan | 2.2.3 patched fine on 0.9.46 |
| 16:01.57 | chexsum | nm i found a way to fix it i think |
| 16:02.00 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34073 |
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| 16:03.01 | m4rku5 | well wow runs damn good with .46 ;) |
| 16:03.44 | kebinusan | As good as can be expected given the software sound crap |
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| 16:04.23 | kebinusan | this made me laugh tho: http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=106824&page=2 |
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| 16:05.24 | chexsum | im using crossover but ill probably grab wine soon |
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| 16:06.13 | chexsum | i just needed the right nvidia driver to run it :x |
| 16:06.26 | jon_a | is it possible to make a numerc variable ignore decimal places |
| 16:09.11 | Nimbal | I don't suppose there is a way to profile an addon with finer granularity (i.e. which method takes what percentage of CPU time), is there? |
| 16:10.16 | hyperChipmunk | Nimbal: check out expo |
| 16:10.32 | cncfanatics | cryogen, did u fix BuffDur ? |
| 16:10.35 | jon_a | in lua is there a command that is like basics int() comand/ |
| 16:10.55 | cryogen | "fix"? |
| 16:10.57 | cryogen | what was broken? |
| 16:12.02 | Nimbal | jon_a, I think the easiest way is to floo(a+0.5) everytime you want to strip the decimal places |
| 16:12.08 | Nimbal | *floor |
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| 16:12.18 | hyperChipmunk | Nimbal: that's round |
| 16:12.27 | hyperChipmunk | i believe int just returns the integer portion |
| 16:12.33 | hyperChipmunk | so just floor() |
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| 16:12.54 | Nimbal | Oh, yes, of course. |
| 16:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | floor(6.7) = 6 |
| 16:13.24 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r51496 10Cartographer1/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Cartographer1: fix remaining CartoAce references |
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| 16:16.18 | cryogen | do3mca: Kaelten hath arrived! |
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| 16:17.39 | Bestial | anyone ever get luasocket to work with lua5.1? |
| 16:18.58 | hyperChipmunk | Bestial: it works fine |
| 16:18.59 | do3mca | omg. gotta run |
| 16:19.25 | Bestial | Hyper: I have the lua interpreter and it runs out of my lua directory fine |
| 16:19.41 | Bestial | however after I unpack luasocket and then try to access a socket, it says it cannot find the .lua or.lib files |
| 16:19.58 | CIA-12 | 03cryogen * r51497 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/FlexBar2_Buffdur.toc: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Update toc |
| 16:20.00 | Bestial | i have also set my SET LUA_PATH=C:\Lua\*.lua |
| 16:20.15 | Bestial | and SET LUA_CPATH=C:\Lua\*.lib |
| 16:20.21 | hyperChipmunk | it sounds like an environment problem rather than a 5.1 problem, yeah |
| 16:20.32 | hyperChipmunk | unfortunately, i know jack about windows environments |
| 16:20.39 | Bestial | dang |
| 16:20.40 | do3mca | cryogen: btw, -v: 16:09 < CIA-12> RUN THE DAMN TEST CASES PEOPLE, THEY'RE THERE FOR A RESASON! |
| 16:20.43 | hyperChipmunk | so you'll have to find someone else >8p |
| 16:20.49 | Bestial | i would have done it on my mac laptop |
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| 16:20.56 | Bestial | but it looks a bit more difficult to configure there |
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| 16:21.17 | cryogen | do3mca: haha |
| 16:21.24 | do3mca | oO |
| 16:21.24 | Nimbal | Yay, Expo is just what I was looking for. Thanks, hyperChipmunk |
| 16:21.29 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 16:22.05 | CIA-12 | 03cryogen * r51498 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/ (FlexBar2_BuffDur.toc FlexBar2_Buffdur.toc): FlexBar2_BuffDur: Renamed toc |
| 16:23.37 | cryogen | there, now it should show on WAU and files.wowace |
| 16:24.02 | cncfanatics | in 15 mins that is |
| 16:24.09 | do3mca | gihi |
| 16:24.14 | cncfanatics | cryogen, giev stance bar ? |
| 16:24.15 | cryogen | ya |
| 16:24.20 | cryogen | tell me how to make buttons |
| 16:24.31 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2:Create(); will return a button |
| 16:24.37 | cryogen | are stance buttons normal action buttons? |
| 16:24.37 | cncfanatics | if you don't give them a name they won't be saved by flexbar |
| 16:24.50 | cncfanatics | which is what u want |
| 16:24.58 | cncfanatics | u should generate them each login for the avail stances |
| 16:25.04 | cryogen | ya |
| 16:25.13 | cryogen | can i just put some sort of default action on them? |
| 16:25.20 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 16:25.22 | cncfanatics | testing some stuff |
| 16:25.26 | cncfanatics | I need to make sure that all actualy works :) |
| 16:25.30 | cryogen | heh |
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| 16:27.32 | cncfanatics | cryogen, fixing some bugs with unnamed buttons |
| 16:27.33 | cncfanatics | gimme a sec |
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| 16:28.33 | cryogen | hehe |
| 16:29.29 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, is there anyway to import from bartender/blizz bars to flexbar2? |
| 16:30.03 | cryogen | that would be cool to do as a module |
| 16:30.07 | cryogen | a actionid converter |
| 16:30.21 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, not atm, someone might write a module for it eventualy |
| 16:30.28 | cncfanatics | cryogen, creating unnamed buttons works now |
| 16:30.34 | cryogen | cool cool |
| 16:30.37 | cncfanatics | the UID of the object is used as name internaly, but its not saved |
| 16:30.38 | Hjalte | ~someone |
| 16:30.40 | cryogen | im heading home |
| 16:30.49 | Hjalte | ~seen someone |
| 16:30.50 | purl | someone <i=foobar@p54A5E970.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 334d 16h 12m 45s ago, saying: 'vegans are crazy'. |
| 16:30.59 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, if u feel like it, write it ? :p |
| 16:31.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen, ok works |
| 16:31.19 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, with uber php skillz! |
| 16:31.20 | cncfanatics | only issue is they're not skinned by cycircled |
| 16:31.25 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, lua ain't hard to learn |
| 16:33.48 | Cairenn | *random interjection into the conversation* - mod authors, Shadowd has written an app to make updating your mods easier than ever. Read about it here: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821 |
| 16:33.51 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, I'm afraid lua will eat my dog :( |
| 16:34.26 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 16:34.31 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, Shadowd is not the same person as Shadowed I hope ? I wouldn't trust it installing Scrooge automaticly :p |
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| 16:34.56 | Fisker- | hax Cairenn |
| 16:34.57 | Cairenn | same person, and it's not for end-user installation, it's for mod author updating |
| 16:35.14 | Shadowed | If you had actually looked at the download, you'd see it includes the original source anyway. |
| 16:35.22 | Fisker- | Shadowd is awesome |
| 16:35.23 | Shadowed | sooo, you're welcome to compile it if you want |
| 16:35.29 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, its a joke :p come on :p |
| 16:35.34 | Shadowed | bad one imo |
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| 16:35.59 | Shadowed | i haven't had any caffinee yet, still grumpy =p |
| 16:36.05 | cncfanatics | hehe |
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| 16:38.05 | neenee | Hm.. Long ago I had an addon which replaced the minimap time-of-day icon with a small digital clock. I wonder if that still exists. |
| 16:38.29 | neenee | found it! |
| 16:38.32 | neenee | The one I used. |
| 16:38.34 | neenee | MyClock |
| 16:38.50 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r51499 10Ace3/AceLocale-3.0/AceLocale-3.0.lua: |
| 16:38.50 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceLocale |
| 16:38.50 | CIA-12 | - Move GetLocale call to top of file. Now all we have is a single "or" in NewLocale(). Stop whining. |
| 16:39.13 | Kaelten | ~whine mikk |
| 16:39.13 | purl | ACTION whines about mikk's whining |
| 16:39.41 | evl | local UnitIsClass = function(unit, ...) <- why don't I have access to "arg" inside |
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| 16:41.21 | Gnarfoz | I'd guess you'd have to access "..." first and extract "arg" from it? |
| 16:41.22 | Gnarfoz | dunno. |
| 16:41.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen, works now |
| 16:41.53 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.58 | neenee | Hm. Is there a only-sell-grey-items addon? |
| 16:42.02 | neenee | Without anything else? |
| 16:42.10 | Astika | neenee: GarbageFu? |
| 16:42.12 | neenee | Preferably with a notice how much has been sold |
| 16:42.15 | neenee | I do not use Fubar |
| 16:42.35 | Astika | SellJunk? |
| 16:42.39 | durcyn | neenee: tekJunkSeller |
| 16:42.42 | neenee | Never heard of that, let me check that out |
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| 16:43.01 | neenee | And that |
| 16:43.02 | neenee | Thanks :) |
| 16:44.17 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51500 10FlexBar2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:44.18 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 16:44.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.20 | cncfanatics | cryogen, there u go |
| 16:44.35 | neenee | Hm |
| 16:44.41 | Balstor | hey cncfanatics is alive |
| 16:44.55 | neenee | durcyn - where would I find it? It seems my link to tekkub's stuff - http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/downloads/list does not have it. |
| 16:45.18 | cncfanatics | Balstor, I've been since months |
| 16:45.41 | Balstor | yhea it's been about 10 months, had a job across the country |
| 16:45.42 | evl | neenee: http://code.google.com/p/evladdons/ |
| 16:45.47 | durcyn | neenee: it's in his svn |
| 16:45.54 | evl | neenee: 33 lines :P |
| 16:46.00 | neenee | :) |
| 16:46.30 | durcyn | $ wc -l tekJunkSeller.lua |
| 16:46.30 | durcyn | 19 tekJunkSeller.lua |
| 16:46.35 | cncfanatics | Balstor, welcome back :) |
| 16:46.37 | durcyn | tsk, evl. |
| 16:46.41 | cncfanatics | if u haven't tried FB since back then ur gonna love it :p |
| 16:46.52 | neenee | Egh |
| 16:46.58 | neenee | But to use svn I'd have to reboot |
| 16:47.10 | durcyn | neenee: just pull it down via http, then |
| 16:47.12 | Balstor | I had my version of 2 i used then i migrated to version 4 and i just migrated to v5 last night |
| 16:47.19 | Balstor | emacs ftw |
| 16:47.20 | neenee | Where is his svn? |
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| 16:47.33 | durcyn | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk |
| 16:47.50 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51501 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Localize an upvalue in the deepest loops in the hope it will make the code run 0.1s faster. |
| 16:47.51 | Balstor | in fact i uploaded a new swingbar timer to http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9485/ |
| 16:47.55 | neenee | ok |
| 16:48.22 | neenee | Hm.. |
| 16:48.30 | neenee | I'm not sure what's up with the european servers |
| 16:48.33 | neenee | But now I can't even login |
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| 16:50.18 | xyu | it has european players |
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| 16:53.11 | cryogen | All you need is Java 1.5 - hmm im put off already |
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| 16:56.07 | Hjalte | if I choose another tailor specialization, will i be able to keep my primal mooncloth gear on if I never take it off? |
| 16:56.27 | durcyn | Hjalte: it's only required to equip, oddly enough |
| 16:57.08 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, no |
| 16:57.17 | cncfanatics | it will have the same use as a destroyed item |
| 16:57.21 | cncfanatics | u won't get anything from it |
| 16:57.42 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, ah, that's... irritating. |
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| 16:58.53 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51502 10Omen/localization_zhCN.lua: Omen: fix zhCN local. |
| 16:59.38 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, I'm actualy not 100% sure, never tried myself as I'm no tailor, u could test it, but I'm nearly sure thats how it works |
| 16:59.59 | Hjalte | Test realm is up, aye? |
| 17:00.02 | cncfanatics | no idea |
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| 17:04.22 | Xinhuan | half the US servers back up |
| 17:05.34 | Arcaia | half without a single one of them being anything that i have a character on |
| 17:05.37 | Arcaia | =( |
| 17:05.39 | Pkekyo | ~seen cryogen |
| 17:05.42 | purl | cryogen is currently on #wowi-lounge (4d 9h 12m 56s) #wowace (4d 9h 12m 56s). Has said a total of 2234 messages. Is idling for 12m 31s, last said: 'All you need is Java 1.5 - hmm im put off already'. |
| 17:05.43 | Arcaia | im goig grocery shopping. bbk |
| 17:05.45 | Arcaia | BBL. |
| 17:05.48 | Pkekyo | cryogen: ping? |
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| 17:06.05 | Astika | my main's server still down :( |
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| 17:06.26 | cryogen | Pkekyo: yo |
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| 17:06.41 | *** part/#wowace Mo1 (n=mike@e179223071.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:06.54 | Pkekyo | you were the one that helped me figure out I needed a vga --> component cable, no? |
| 17:08.23 | cryogen | kinda |
| 17:08.33 | Pkekyo | any idea where one might be able to purchase such a thing? |
| 17:08.46 | cryogen | ebay if you like a risk :) |
| 17:08.52 | Xinhuan | any decent hardware shop would sell it |
| 17:08.56 | Pkekyo | went to the 'main' retailer of electronics 'round here just now, and the twat didn't even know such a thing existed |
| 17:09.01 | cryogen | heh |
| 17:09.03 | NightHawkAtWork | i'm sure google will tell you |
| 17:09.11 | cryogen | i got one free with my TV |
| 17:09.18 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: crawl back under your rock of sarcasm |
| 17:09.21 | cryogen | there's also plenty on ebay |
| 17:09.29 | NightHawkAtWork | it may be sarcastic, but it's the truth |
| 17:09.31 | cryogen | but you gotta be careful you dont end up with some shoddy pos that doesnt work |
| 17:09.54 | Pkekyo | cryogen: exactly my thought...I've only had bad experiences with ebay tbh |
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| 17:10.16 | cryogen | i bought my DVI cable from ebay |
| 17:10.18 | cryogen | it was full of win |
| 17:10.39 | Pkekyo | but did it have awesome? O.o |
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| 17:11.40 | Hjalte | Bah, my test realm client doesnt get past authenticated.. |
| 17:12.02 | Pkekyo | meh, my main hardware supplier doesn't sell any (except some stuff for xbox360) |
| 17:12.05 | kenlyric | test realm is up? |
| 17:12.07 | cryogen | it has a little bit of awesome ye |
| 17:12.17 | cryogen | ye its the same sort of thing you get for the xbox |
| 17:12.21 | cryogen | you just want vga on one end :) |
| 17:12.33 | Pkekyo | cryogen: yeah..which they don't have :< |
| 17:13.01 | cryogen | sucks |
| 17:13.01 | Hjalte | kenlyric, dunno, i was hoping 2.2.3 was so that i could re-specialize my tailoring to test if primal mooncloth gear still worked |
| 17:13.32 | Pkekyo | I asked on some hardware forum if anyone knew of a retailer...only answer I got was "make it yourself" |
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| 17:14.08 | do3mca | heh |
| 17:14.25 | do3mca | thought the diy times were gone |
| 17:14.33 | Pkekyo | do3mca: indeed |
| 17:14.49 | cryogen | yeah you can make them yourself, but man |
| 17:14.54 | cryogen | its not exactly a specialised cable |
| 17:14.57 | do3mca | hah. that woman was wearing a adibas shirt. seriously |
| 17:14.59 | cryogen | its pretty "standard" |
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| 17:15.13 | cncfanatics | I could probably make that tbh :p |
| 17:15.18 | cryogen | ebay might be your only option |
| 17:15.29 | cryogen | unless you can find some real cable supplier :) |
| 17:16.01 | Pkekyo | cryogen: that's not what the twat at my retailer said it was probably the most specialized cable he'd ever even heard of |
| 17:16.19 | do3mca | sitting in a bus and chattimg via umts is standard too, i assume? |
| 17:17.06 | cryogen | Pkekyo: lol |
| 17:17.11 | cryogen | seriously, i got one with my tv :) |
| 17:17.21 | cryogen | (i was surprised to, but hey) |
| 17:17.22 | Pkekyo | I could probably make one myself, sure, but I want the damn cable NOW! don't wanna wait for weeks to get cable and connectors from some lameass webshop, then be sitting with my dick in my hand when I manage to screw it up |
| 17:17.31 | cryogen | hahaha |
| 17:17.33 | cryogen | yeah |
| 17:17.37 | cryogen | cncfanatics: o_o |
| 17:17.40 | cryogen | what did i do |
| 17:17.45 | cncfanatics | cryogen, eh ? |
| 17:17.49 | cryogen | Message: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2\OO.lua line 98: |
| 17:17.50 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.50 | cncfanatics | I know right clicks don't work atm, be patient |
| 17:17.56 | cncfanatics | on Deactivate ? |
| 17:17.56 | cncfanatics | wth ? |
| 17:18.11 | cncfanatics | DeActicate ? that shouldn't exist ? |
| 17:18.12 | Pkekyo | anyone know what RCA cables are? |
| 17:18.13 | do3mca | and that reminds me i still have to prep a presentation on netflows. +throwing around thoughts+ |
| 17:18.15 | cncfanatics | that u do something in ur module ? |
| 17:18.16 | Ellipsis | yuo broke it! |
| 17:18.19 | cryogen | i just created FlexBar2_StanceBar |
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| 17:18.23 | cryogen | and fucked something up apparently |
| 17:18.24 | cncfanatics | its Deactivate |
| 17:18.26 | cryogen | but i cant see what |
| 17:18.26 | cncfanatics | not DeActivate |
| 17:18.32 | cryogen | ah |
| 17:18.37 | cryogen | then its wrong in _BuffDur |
| 17:18.39 | cryogen | and this conflicts with it |
| 17:18.40 | cryogen | :) |
| 17:18.46 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.01 | Ellipsis | oh hay cryogen, are you gonna write PetBar too? :D |
| 17:19.15 | Ellipsis | plzs |
| 17:19.19 | cryogen | Message: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2\Core.lua line 78: |
| 17:19.20 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.25 | cryogen | Ellipsis: if this works and is easy |
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| 17:19.31 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 17:19.35 | do3mca | home bbiab |
| 17:19.44 | cryogen | cncfanatics: is that my booboo or yours? |
| 17:20.06 | cncfanatics | lemme fix all the mess I just made |
| 17:20.33 | durcyn | Pkekyo: uh, you need a converter, not just a cable |
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| 17:20.51 | cryogen | from vga to component? like hell you do |
| 17:20.58 | cryogen | its a simple pin remap |
| 17:21.41 | cncfanatics | its not a remap |
| 17:21.46 | cncfanatics | but we get it :p |
| 17:21.53 | Ellipsis | ...nerds :x |
| 17:21.54 | durcyn | eh? he was talking composite |
| 17:22.09 | cryogen | durcyn: then he is mistaken :) |
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| 17:22.52 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, says the girl that doesn't even work and does nothing except sitting in front of the comp the whole day ? :p |
| 17:23.02 | cryogen | lol |
| 17:23.23 | Pkekyo | durcyn: I was? |
| 17:23.30 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: that makes me a slacker, not a nerd |
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| 17:23.39 | cryogen | cncfanatics: that was my booboo |
| 17:23.41 | cryogen | but i got another one now |
| 17:23.41 | Gagorian | !c eu Al'Akir Gagorian |
| 17:23.44 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: Gagorian, Level 70 Orc Warlock (27/34/0). 12267 HP; 8291 Mana; 145 mana regen; 41 mp5; 52 spell crit; 52 spell hit; 1036 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1090); 105 shadow dmg (1141); 4.24% dodge; 387 resilience; +70 all resists;[[ TBR: 1579 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp3fao ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38keje ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 13:25:05 2007 EST ]] |
| 17:23.53 | Pkekyo | I'm pretty sure vga --> component is what I'm on about |
| 17:23.53 | cryogen | Message: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2\Core.lua line 312: |
| 17:23.53 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.53 | cryogen | Debug: |
| 17:23.53 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.53 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.55 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.57 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.00 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.05 | *** kick/#wowace [cryogen!n=folk@ti0013a380-1329.bb.online.no] by vhaarr (pastey.net) |
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| 17:24.12 | cryogen | wth |
| 17:24.14 | cryogen | i have autorejoin? |
| 17:24.19 | vhaarr | apparently |
| 17:24.19 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 17:24.27 | cryogen | 18:24 -!- Irssi: Rejoining #wowace in 1 seconds. |
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| 17:24.33 | vhaarr | evil |
| 17:24.35 | cryogen | yeah |
| 17:24.41 | cncfanatics | lemme fix my stuff |
| 17:24.43 | cryogen | it got put in there by accident :) |
| 17:24.47 | cncfanatics | cryogen, don't try creating buttons there |
| 17:24.49 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 17:25.07 | cryogen | cncfanatics: do i have to do it on some event? |
| 17:25.12 | cncfanatics | I mean yet |
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| 17:25.16 | cncfanatics | I'm fixing some of the mess I just made |
| 17:25.22 | cryogen | oh |
| 17:25.25 | cryogen | k |
| 17:25.50 | cncfanatics | glad I saved my old saved bars |
| 17:25.51 | cncfanatics | vars* |
| 17:26.03 | cncfanatics | I'm messing with the setdefaults, updatesettings & loadsettings code |
| 17:26.07 | cncfanatics | tip: don't update |
| 17:26.28 | cryogen | 51265 is what im on |
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| 17:26.36 | Pkekyo | cryogen: http://www.mpx.no/img/cache/benq_d_sub_to_ypbpr_cable_-1910965995_0_Big.jpg this look like what I need? |
| 17:26.40 | cryogen | vhaarr: tbh that was a little harsh, i had judged the length based on how much crap ThraeBot spams with :p |
| 17:27.05 | durcyn | Pkekyo: eh, "rca cable" can be read either way, i suppose |
| 17:27.06 | cryogen | Pkekyo: as long as the dsub end is male, yup |
| 17:27.12 | cryogen | (which it looks to me) |
| 17:27.21 | cryogen | s/me/be/ |
| 17:27.28 | Pkekyo | durcyn: I simply asked what RCA is |
| 17:27.34 | vhaarr | cryogen: tbh you should be happy I didn't ban you for autorejoin |
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| 17:27.39 | Pkekyo | cryogen: dsub = vga? |
| 17:27.42 | cryogen | yes |
| 17:27.51 | durcyn | Pkekyo: it's the circular connector used in av cables |
| 17:28.06 | cryogen | vhaarr: you should be happy i dont the umod set that prevents me being kicked. :p |
| 17:28.09 | cryogen | umode* |
| 17:28.17 | cryogen | dont have* |
| 17:28.23 | cryogen | think first, type second |
| 17:28.33 | durcyn | Pkekyo: composite video, component video, analog audio, etc |
| 17:28.46 | vhaarr | cryogen: tbh you should be happy I understand what you're saying without refering to a dictionary |
| 17:28.58 | cryogen | haha |
| 17:29.11 | Pkekyo | meh, this shit is expensive... 0.5k for a simple 1.7m vga --> component cable >.< |
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| 17:30.33 | Pkekyo | gets kinda tempting to make the crap myself |
| 17:30.40 | cryogen | how much is that in real money? |
| 17:30.48 | alext | 500 dollars? |
| 17:30.49 | cryogen | (and ye, belkin is over expensive for everything they do) |
| 17:31.23 | Nandini | not just expensive, but over expensive? |
| 17:31.29 | Pkekyo | 500 NOK... approx 100 USD |
| 17:31.34 | alext | ah |
| 17:31.42 | cryogen | wtf? |
| 17:31.47 | cryogen | 50 quid? |
| 17:31.48 | alext | when you said 0.5k i was thinking in wow thats 500g and i guess 500 dollars ;] |
| 17:31.53 | alext | lol |
| 17:31.54 | Pkekyo | cryogen: pretty much |
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| 17:32.15 | Pkekyo | cryogen: you see why I hesitate to buy it? :> |
| 17:32.38 | cryogen | indeed |
| 17:32.40 | Pkekyo | it'd probably be cheaper to order something from UK and have it shipped here |
| 17:32.49 | Pkekyo | thought that'd take time |
| 17:33.27 | cryogen | damn, i havent opered up in so long id forgotten my password :p |
| 17:34.08 | do3mca | stu: haha! |
| 17:34.13 | Nandini | also consider the cable lenth you really need, longer cables usually require better materials and better construction, in addition to just using more |
| 17:34.17 | cryogen | took me 4 attempts! |
| 17:34.19 | Pkekyo | I dunno what password I used when I registered my nick, so nickserv is bothering me every time I restart my webbrowser |
| 17:34.29 | do3mca | comparable. |
| 17:34.29 | alext | it was roughly $100 for me to get an HDMI to DVI cable, 6ft |
| 17:34.34 | Pkekyo | Nandini: but 50 quid for 1.7m? |
| 17:34.38 | alext | those damn conversation cables...they like to rip you off |
| 17:34.39 | cryogen | Pkekyo: ican reset it for you if you like |
| 17:34.44 | do3mca | *gnicker* |
| 17:34.47 | cryogen | assuming you can prove to me you are who you say you are.. |
| 17:35.00 | do3mca | rofl |
| 17:35.01 | Pkekyo | HDMI --> DVI cable is ALOT more expensive than vga --> component matereal |
| 17:35.09 | Pkekyo | rofl cry |
| 17:35.10 | do3mca | stu: can you reset mc's password? :) |
| 17:35.10 | Pkekyo | o |
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| 17:35.18 | cryogen | do3mca: are you mc? :) |
| 17:35.25 | alext | yah i guess that wasnt a good comparison ;] |
| 17:35.27 | do3mca | suuuuuure :) |
| 17:35.35 | cryogen | are you lying to me young man? |
| 17:35.43 | do3mca | no. iam mc. you know that! |
| 17:35.53 | Pkekyo | alext: practically speaking, you can make a VGA --> Component out of a cat5 cable |
| 17:36.01 | cryogen | i beg to differ :) |
| 17:36.14 | Astika | In-wall HDMI cables = $$$ +1 :( |
| 17:36.20 | do3mca | look at window 14 |
| 17:37.04 | Pkekyo | but I can't be arsed to make the cable myself...fucked up with crap like that too many times allready x) |
| 17:38.07 | cryogen | just find one on ebay :D |
| 17:38.17 | cryogen | it'll likely cost about 10 USD |
| 17:38.30 | Pkekyo | cryogen: found one cable at 80 quid |
| 17:38.39 | cryogen | ! |
| 17:38.54 | Pkekyo | granted, it's 15m long :p |
| 17:38.57 | cryogen | i'll sell you mind for 30! |
| 17:39.00 | cryogen | mine* |
| 17:39.15 | Pkekyo | 3m at 35 quid |
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| 17:40.09 | Pkekyo | cryogen: length? :> |
| 17:40.22 | cryogen | Pkekyo: froma quick search on ebay UK, the first result is: |
| 17:40.28 | cryogen | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VGA-to-3-RCA-COMPONENT-CABLE-M-M-FOR-PC-to-TV-DISPLAY_W0QQitemZ180167955480QQihZ008QQcategoryZ32837QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 17:41.07 | Pkekyo | err...does that say 40 pence or whatev? |
| 17:41.13 | cryogen | yup |
| 17:41.58 | CIA-12 | 03jncl * r51503 10Skinner/AddonSkins/ (JasonQuest.lua ProfessionsBook.lua): Skinner: Updated JasonQuest & ProfessionsBook skins |
| 17:42.12 | cryogen | there's loads on ebay under that search |
| 17:42.18 | cryogen | all pretty reasonably priced |
| 17:42.21 | cryogen | some better than others |
| 17:42.41 | Pkekyo | hm |
| 17:43.01 | Pkekyo | can only pay by paypal? |
| 17:43.07 | cryogen | depends on the seller i guess |
| 17:43.20 | cryogen | also since this isnt guarenteeed to make a huge difference i would only get somethign cheap as a tester |
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| 17:44.06 | doktoreas | hellol everybody |
| 17:44.16 | doktoreas | anyone experienced troubles with XRS? |
| 17:44.26 | doktoreas | i can't create a new window |
| 17:44.35 | doktoreas | the "new" option is disabled |
| 17:45.21 | Pkekyo | cryogen: thanks for the tip, I'll look into it |
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| 17:47.23 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51504 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Attributes/Attributes.lua Core.lua OO.lua): FlexBar2: Bugfix revision |
| 17:47.45 | doktoreas | any idea? |
| 17:47.53 | Pkekyo | doktoreas: update? |
| 17:48.17 | doktoreas | Pkekyo: I just did it |
| 17:48.24 | Pkekyo | then revert? :) |
| 17:48.36 | doktoreas | it's a new installation |
| 17:48.43 | doktoreas | don't know wich versione get |
| 17:49.06 | Pkekyo | then sell your body for an older version? |
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| 17:52.17 | cryogen | cncfanatics: Message: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2\Core.lua line 313: |
| 17:52.17 | chexsum | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.18 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.23 | chexsum | :x |
| 17:52.30 | Zhinjio|Bioshock | does the OnLoad method for a frame get called only after all its contained frames are loaded? |
| 17:52.33 | chexsum | wtb epic4 |
| 17:52.34 | Zhinjio|Bioshock | woops. |
| 17:53.35 | cncfanatics | cryogen, on load or when doing :Create() ? |
| 17:53.42 | cryogen | latter |
| 17:54.03 | cncfanatics | that rly shldnt ever be nil ? |
| 17:54.08 | cncfanatics | u doing .Create() or what ? |
| 17:54.16 | cncfanatics | make sure u do FlexBar2:Create() |
| 17:54.27 | cncfanatics | (and what does /dump FlexBar2.ButtonCache give ?) |
| 17:54.29 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.42 | cryogen | its there |
| 17:54.47 | JoshBorke | Zhinjio: OnLoad gets called once the XML for that frame has been completely parsed |
| 17:55.02 | cncfanatics | weirdish |
| 17:55.06 | Pkekyo | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128344054147187500muncheiz1.jpg |
| 17:55.09 | cncfanatics | can u do that dump |
| 17:55.15 | Zhinjio | ok. |
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| 17:55.34 | cryogen | [1] = {} |
| 17:56.06 | cncfanatics | cryogen, why does it complain about it being nil then ? lol |
| 17:56.14 | cryogen | dunno |
| 17:56.22 | cryogen | do i need to wait for some event before creating a butto? |
| 17:56.24 | cncfanatics | ur not doing that before the OnEnable event are you ? |
| 17:56.30 | cryogen | quite possibly |
| 17:56.36 | cncfanatics | u should wait for FullyInititialized idealy |
| 17:56.42 | cncfanatics | or |
| 17:56.43 | cncfanatics | easyer |
| 17:56.43 | cryogen | can do |
| 17:56.53 | cncfanatics | create ur stuff in the ModuleName:Activate() method |
| 17:56.58 | cncfanatics | thats called when FB is rdy with everything |
| 17:57.08 | cryogen | even better |
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| 17:58.20 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen |
| 17:58.32 | cncfanatics | remember users can't affect unnamed buttons with their slashcommands |
| 17:58.35 | Pkekyo | so...Orange Box launching october 10th...will I be able to play at midnight? :> |
| 17:58.42 | cncfanatics | so u'll have to provide ways to configure em cryogen |
| 17:59.31 | cryogen | configure confschmigure |
| 17:59.37 | cryogen | they'll have em where i tell em they'll have em |
| 17:59.38 | cryogen | ! |
| 18:00.23 | cryogen | Message: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2_Button\Button.lua line 245: |
| 18:00.24 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.27 | cryogen | ~fail |
| 18:00.28 | purl | ACTION gives cryogen the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 18:00.30 | neenee | Are there any good alternatives to Tortoise SVN, for checking out SVN? |
| 18:00.44 | Ellipsis | I use the command line client |
| 18:00.58 | cryogen | good is subjective |
| 18:01.02 | neenee | sigh |
| 18:01.04 | cryogen | i use tortoise.. i dont like it, but it works |
| 18:01.05 | Ellipsis | wtf Blizz, y u patch me |
| 18:01.10 | neenee | I mean, what do you people use? |
| 18:01.23 | vhaarr | neenee: svn? |
| 18:01.31 | Seerah | I use Tortoise |
| 18:01.41 | Seerah | but I don't do so well with command line stuff :) |
| 18:01.43 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ^ |
| 18:01.48 | Seerah | (why I need a gui for FB :) ) |
| 18:01.56 | neenee | oki |
| 18:01.56 | cncfanatics | cryogen, sec |
| 18:01.59 | neenee | Tortoise it is then |
| 18:02.08 | cncfanatics | cryogne, mind giving me the execution path ? |
| 18:02.28 | cryogen | its in rock |
| 18:02.31 | cryogen | way way in rock |
| 18:02.32 | cncfanatics | and that can't really be nil tbh |
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| 18:02.43 | cryogen | well its almost certainly my fault |
| 18:02.43 | cncfanatics | when did it trigger ? |
| 18:02.46 | cryogen | but im wondering why |
| 18:02.46 | cryogen | on reload |
| 18:02.59 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 18:03.04 | aestil | do TA and BoS stack? |
| 18:03.06 | cncfanatics | I suspect ur trying to show buttons too early |
| 18:03.17 | cryogen | im hooking the blizz buttons |
| 18:03.18 | cncfanatics | do u call :Show at all cryo ? |
| 18:03.25 | cryogen | and reparenting them to the FB button |
| 18:03.53 | cncfanatics | wth lol ? |
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| 18:03.57 | cryogen | thats what BT does |
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| 18:04.07 | cryogen | and it sounds like a cool easy way to do it :D |
| 18:04.11 | cncfanatics | anyway, ur trying to call :Show on an fb object before its fully initialized |
| 18:04.16 | cryogen | am not! |
| 18:04.41 | cncfanatics | any other errors ? |
| 18:04.48 | cryogen | http://wowi.pastey.net/75090 |
| 18:04.56 | cncfanatics | only moment I can see that happening is that the Attributes.lua module didn't load |
| 18:04.59 | cryogen | no others |
| 18:05.08 | cryogen | oh thats possible |
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| 18:05.40 | cncfanatics | Button depends on Attributes, so still weird |
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| 18:05.53 | cryogen | yeah, dont ask |
| 18:05.56 | cryogen | needless to say my bad |
| 18:06.09 | cncfanatics | u forgot to set depencies eh ? |
| 18:06.11 | cryogen | no |
| 18:06.16 | cryogen | i was messing about with embedding |
| 18:06.18 | cryogen | deleted the folder |
| 18:06.27 | cncfanatics | :o heh |
| 18:06.31 | cryogen | undo ftw |
| 18:06.59 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.01 | cryogen | WTH?!" |
| 18:07.10 | cncfanatics | its returning false |
| 18:07.12 | cncfanatics | hmmm lets see why |
| 18:07.25 | cncfanatics | its refusing to create a button |
| 18:07.27 | cncfanatics | wonder what u did this time |
| 18:07.32 | cryogen | bad flexbar! |
| 18:07.48 | cncfanatics | are u passing on a name or what ? |
| 18:08.02 | cryogen | nope? |
| 18:08.08 | cncfanatics | oh, activate debugging |
| 18:08.15 | cryogen | im passing nothing |
| 18:08.16 | cncfanatics | fb spits some debug output when it doesn't want to create a button |
| 18:08.17 | cryogen | do i need something? |
| 18:08.31 | cncfanatics | :o lol |
| 18:08.32 | cncfanatics | I get it |
| 18:08.33 | cncfanatics | my bad |
| 18:09.02 | cryogen | win |
| 18:09.47 | Hjalte | Hehe.. Someone on my server is looking for a member "last spot" for his 2v2 team :P |
| 18:09.57 | cryogen | SMT |
| 18:10.35 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51505 10FlexBar2/ (Attributes/Attributes.lua Core.lua): FlexBar2: Fix a bug |
| 18:10.57 | cncfanatics | cryogen, so much small errors in FB -.- |
| 18:11.04 | Nimbal | Can anyone explain to me why half a dozen UNIT_AURA events get fired when _one single buff_ fades? |
| 18:11.11 | cncfanatics | I wasn't relying on Create's return value myself so I never noticed |
| 18:11.21 | cryogen | cncfanatics: small errors are good |
| 18:11.27 | cryogen | if you had no errors i would be very very worries |
| 18:11.34 | cncfanatics | anyway, fixed |
| 18:11.40 | cncfanatics | it returns the button now instead of true/false |
| 18:11.52 | vhaarr | Nimbal: well, if you have other buffs, I assume one event fires per index reorder |
| 18:11.52 | cncfanatics | (will return false though if it fails) |
| 18:12.00 | vhaarr | Nimbal: which is, of course, silly |
| 18:12.06 | cryogen | cncfanatics: now it's nil |
| 18:12.09 | vhaarr | Nimbal: which is why we have SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 |
| 18:12.17 | cncfanatics | cryogen, it is ? :o |
| 18:12.21 | Nimbal | vhaar, just one other buff |
| 18:12.21 | cryogen | apparently |
| 18:12.43 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r51506 10Cartographer1/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Cartographer1: fixed art path detection |
| 18:12.50 | cncfanatics | there u go |
| 18:12.51 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51507 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Fix a bug |
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| 18:13.08 | cryogen | it does createa button tho |
| 18:13.08 | cryogen | lol |
| 18:13.14 | cncfanatics | yea I know it did |
| 18:13.26 | cncfanatics | seems i'm rather sleepy |
| 18:13.28 | cryogen | im using svn now btw |
| 18:13.32 | cryogen | so i can get isntant updates |
| 18:13.33 | cryogen | ftw |
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| 18:14.16 | cryogen | ok no errors now |
| 18:14.22 | cryogen | 9 buttons created.. |
| 18:14.23 | Nimbal | vhaarr, I already use SE-Aura, I just came across this oddity while debugging. Six events for one buff... jesus. |
| 18:14.28 | cryogen | didnt quite work as i hoped |
| 18:14.36 | do3mca | svn now? |
| 18:15.01 | vhaarr | Nimbal: silly |
| 18:15.31 | do3mca | huh |
| 18:15.35 | cncfanatics | cryogen, what didn't ? |
| 18:15.37 | do3mca | svn delete mc |
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| 18:15.51 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.53 | cryogen | that didnt |
| 18:16.11 | cryogen | it just makes the FB button show the lua address of the blizzard button :) |
| 18:16.22 | cncfanatics | SetPoint it ? |
| 18:16.26 | cncfanatics | SetParent won't do much |
| 18:16.29 | cncfanatics | shld SetPoint it |
| 18:16.41 | cncfanatics | oh, and ur buttons shld be draggable btw |
| 18:16.45 | cryogen | they are |
| 18:17.04 | aestil | tranquil air and blessing of salvation stack? |
| 18:17.16 | sylvanaar | btw would anyone like my little program that opens your editor to source file/line that a debugstack is refering to? |
| 18:17.22 | Wogroipl | yes aestil |
| 18:18.50 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I'd think that was sort of both OS and editor specific |
| 18:19.08 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: os |
| 18:19.13 | Antiarc|Laptop | Hahah, awesome |
| 18:19.18 | Antiarc|Laptop | So I'm in this seminar being presented by a MS guy |
| 18:19.23 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: so you're saying all editors accept the same line number parameter? |
| 18:19.27 | Antiarc|Laptop | On building Facebook apps with mS products |
| 18:19.39 | sylvanaar | vhaarr no, i wrote it to be flexible |
| 18:19.43 | Antiarc|Laptop | And he asks the audience "So how many of you are on .NET?" and maybe 5% raised their hands |
| 18:19.48 | Antiarc|Laptop | "How many on Java?" 10%. |
| 18:19.54 | Antiarc|Laptop | "okay, keep your hands up, we're taking pictures." |
| 18:20.03 | Antiarc|Laptop | "Just joking, we already know who you are." |
| 18:20.41 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, how did u make that ? |
| 18:20.52 | sylvanaar | vhaarr it uses .net 3.0 - since with that it took all of 5 min to write |
| 18:21.29 | vhaarr | I don't see how such a script can take more than 5min to write no matter what language you use |
| 18:21.46 | sylvanaar | vhaarr .net 3.0 |
| 18:21.56 | sylvanaar | and regex buddy |
| 18:22.03 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 18:22.04 | cncfanatics | anyone |
| 18:22.05 | cryogen | cncfanatics: oh sweet, it works, sort of |
| 18:22.14 | cncfanatics | SetVertexColor(100,100,100); sets the color of a button to white, why ? |
| 18:22.17 | cryogen | cncfanatics: it just doesnt draw the blizz button in the right place :) |
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| 18:22.30 | cncfanatics | cryogen, thats u not me :) |
| 18:22.31 | neenee | There, TortoiseSVN and tekJunkSeller installed :) |
| 18:22.36 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u might want to :SetAllPoints |
| 18:22.36 | cryogen | oh i know |
| 18:22.39 | cryogen | but its still cool |
| 18:22.40 | cncfanatics | and now I'm gonna eat |
| 18:22.43 | cryogen | yeah but where do i set it to |
| 18:23.01 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: because 1 is max, and 100 is bigger than 1 |
| 18:23.10 | vhaarr | 111 is white |
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| 18:23.22 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, aaah omg |
| 18:23.34 | cncfanatics | I've always been using 255 based numbers |
| 18:23.35 | cryogen | ~fail cncfanatics |
| 18:23.36 | purl | cncfanatics: Fail. |
| 18:23.36 | cncfanatics | always worked till now |
| 18:24.11 | Pkekyo | cryogen: you were right... the S-Video gives fuckedup overall graphics, but video looks wicked |
| 18:24.15 | Ellipsis | ping aestil |
| 18:24.18 | sylvanaar | cncfanatics yeah .net 3.0+regex buddy, it was really easy |
| 18:24.44 | Hjalte | Anyway that I can make WAU2 not download Tattle while Gladiator is installed? |
| 18:24.54 | cryogen | Pkekyo: hmm, then component might not help much |
| 18:24.58 | cryogen | except for higher res stuff |
| 18:25.01 | Ellipsis | put a .svn dir in Tattle's folder |
| 18:25.23 | aestil | i'm here. |
| 18:25.27 | Ellipsis | hi |
| 18:25.32 | Ellipsis | I need your halp |
| 18:25.33 | Pkekyo | cryogen: really? |
| 18:25.40 | Ellipsis | what color should I use for the textures I showed you yesterday |
| 18:25.46 | cryogen | its worth a try if you pick up one cheap |
| 18:25.48 | Hjalte | Ellipsis, i did the easy thing - Find another addon that did the same as Gladiator :) |
| 18:25.52 | aestil | color? |
| 18:26.01 | aestil | do you have a palate to work with? |
| 18:26.01 | Ellipsis | I kinda like black, but I tried dark blue and that looked pretty odd |
| 18:26.03 | Xinhuan | if you use windows, you may need to use the command prompt to make a ".svn" directory, since windows explorer doesn't like filenames beginning with "." |
| 18:26.14 | Ellipsis | aestil: I can use any color, I made the textures o.O |
| 18:26.22 | aestil | yes, but i mean, the rest of your UI |
| 18:26.27 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 18:26.28 | aestil | do you have color's you are working with. |
| 18:26.32 | Ellipsis | remember I *just installed* eePanels2 |
| 18:26.37 | Ellipsis | I have no other shiny stuff |
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| 18:26.45 | cryogen | ok works now, this is cool |
| 18:26.48 | aestil | i mean on your unit frames, buffs, cast bars, etc. |
| 18:27.13 | Ellipsis | unit frames are default PitBull colors, buffs are default blizz art, action bars are BT3 zoomed |
| 18:27.14 | Balstor | setvertex is a direct interface to the opengl interface, if bluzzard activated clamping any values over 1 will be clamped to 1 |
| 18:27.26 | aestil | i think black then. |
| 18:27.30 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 18:27.38 | aestil | btw, pitbull colors are bleh on default. |
| 18:27.42 | Ellipsis | I know |
| 18:27.54 | Ellipsis | but I haven't configured appearance of most stuff yet |
| 18:27.57 | cryogen | cncfanatics: need your help now on how to glue them together |
| 18:28.00 | Ellipsis | other than bar textures |
| 18:28.11 | CIA-12 | 03boydon * r51508 10SmartQueue/ (. Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Options.lua): |
| 18:28.11 | CIA-12 | SmartQueue: |
| 18:28.11 | CIA-12 | - added tsvn:template |
| 18:28.12 | CIA-12 | - tweaked options to clean the code a bit (Options.lua has 85 lines less than before!) |
| 18:28.12 | CIA-12 | - added a missing locale |
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| 18:28.22 | Ellipsis | hmm, should I try moving my chat frames away from the very corner of my screen? |
| 18:28.33 | Ellipsis | maybe the frame would look better if it's more "complete" |
| 18:28.39 | sylvanaar | though I think im going to have to do something about the path's in buggrabber since they display /<addon><version sometimes/file.lua |
| 18:29.45 | Ellipsis | oh bah that means I'd have to swap out that corner texture for a flat one so that the side wouldn't overlap when the frame is minimized |
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| 18:29.57 | Ellipsis | and the corner is what makes the whole frame effect work |
| 18:29.58 | Ellipsis | :( |
| 18:32.05 | Ellipsis | hmm... |
| 18:32.07 | |Stan| | Ellipsis: show pic :D |
| 18:32.16 | |Stan| | (of your UI of course) |
| 18:32.22 | Ellipsis | |Stan|, very WIP and the textures are ugly atm, need to redo them :P |
| 18:32.32 | Ellipsis | I will take a screenshot when they're settled |
| 18:32.33 | |Stan| | doesn't matter :D |
| 18:33.23 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r51509 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 18:33.23 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 18:33.23 | CIA-12 | - removed spellcast events, now relies solely on aura updates (report any problems in the official wowace thread). |
| 18:34.32 | cryogen | is there a way to check if a frame is visible? |
| 18:34.40 | vhaarr | frame:IsVisible |
| 18:34.58 | cryogen | some might call that obvious |
| 18:35.00 | cryogen | not me! |
| 18:35.14 | Ellipsis | your mom is obvious |
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| 18:36.24 | Ellipsis | oops, I broke all my addons =[ |
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| 18:37.21 | Kaelten | ~cheer Ellipsis |
| 18:37.22 | purl | ACTION cheers Ellipsis on |
| 18:37.25 | Seerah | lol |
| 18:38.14 | evl | What events fire when I /reloadui= |
| 18:38.31 | Kaelten | same ones that run when you load the game |
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| 18:39.09 | Ellipsis | I'm not actually sure what I did wrong, /rl threw an error and made my FuBars go boom, and then /rl fixed it again |
| 18:39.13 | evl | having problems hiding some party frames, I listen to PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 18:39.22 | evl | They don't hide after /rl |
| 18:39.47 | vhaarr | Kaelten: that's not true |
| 18:40.00 | cncfanatics | I was about to say that |
| 18:40.03 | cncfanatics | some events don't trigger |
| 18:40.06 | aestil | quick shadow priest theorycraft, is quag's eye better than glowing crystal insignia? |
| 18:40.06 | Seerah | you have gnomes in your computer, ellipsis |
| 18:40.08 | Kaelten | vhaarr: should be pretty close if I recal correctly |
| 18:40.21 | Ellipsis | yes aestil |
| 18:40.27 | vhaarr | Kaelten: I seem to remember there are 2-3 events that fire on login that do not fire when you reload ui |
| 18:40.30 | cryogen | cncfanatics: how do i glue buttons together? |
| 18:40.34 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51510 10FlexBar2/Highlighting/Highlighting.lua: FlexBar2: Fix highlighting bug |
| 18:40.44 | cncfanatics | cryogen, depends on the situation |
| 18:40.45 | Kaelten | ya, probably right I think there is one that only fires when you first logged out |
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| 18:40.50 | cncfanatics | u'd anchor them together typicaly cryogen |
| 18:40.53 | cryogen | ye |
| 18:40.53 | cryogen | how? |
| 18:40.57 | cncfanatics | SetPoint ? |
| 18:40.58 | vhaarr | evl: however, PEW should fire during both |
| 18:40.58 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
| 18:41.00 | aestil | Ellipsis: is there a link you can provide for the numbers? |
| 18:41.01 | cryogen | oh right |
| 18:41.03 | cryogen | but |
| 18:41.11 | cryogen | will they stay glued together if i drag them? |
| 18:41.14 | Ellipsis | aestil: no, I just know it's true for locks and therefore probably true for shadowpriests as well :P |
| 18:41.21 | cncfanatics | cryogen, thats the whole point of parenting, yea |
| 18:41.27 | Ellipsis | quag's eye is considered *the* trinket :P |
| 18:41.33 | cryogen | i'll take your word for it |
| 18:41.40 | Ellipsis | along with scryer's bloodgem |
| 18:41.42 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen, remember to save their positions correctly if u anchor them |
| 18:41.43 | aestil | the haste speeds up the ticks of dot? |
| 18:41.50 | cncfanatics | I chose to not anchor them cuz positions are a mess then |
| 18:41.53 | durcyn | aestil: nope. cast only. |
| 18:42.07 | aestil | i have conflicting statments then. |
| 18:42.14 | Ellipsis | haste speeds up channeled spells though |
| 18:42.17 | cryogen | i dont save shit atm |
| 18:42.20 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51511 10FlexBar2/Highlighting/Highlighting.lua: FlexBar2: Remove debug code |
| 18:42.21 | cryogen | just playing around right now |
| 18:42.23 | Ellipsis | so flay or whatever you shadow nubs do |
| 18:42.33 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u should save positions eventualy, and when u do it'll be easyer without anchoring |
| 18:42.39 | cncfanatics | or you could just save the position of the first button |
| 18:42.40 | do3mca | you shouldnt get ENTERWORLD or what its called on reloadui |
| 18:42.45 | cncfanatics | and just anchor all the rest to eachother |
| 18:42.50 | cryogen | position of the first button is fine |
| 18:42.54 | cryogen | it rebuilds on login anyway |
| 18:43.00 | Codayus | Wondering about trinkets for a shadow priest? Check this link out: |
| 18:43.03 | cryogen | and on changes |
| 18:43.04 | Codayus | http://wiki.shadowpriest.com/index.php?title=SimulationCraft/Trinkets/Priest |
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| 18:43.06 | aestil | that doesn't really help though. I can't control it, rarely does it proc when i'm in a MF part of the rotation |
| 18:43.21 | Ellipsis | hm, maybe it's different for shadowpriests |
| 18:43.31 | Ellipsis | the reason locks like it is because it procs off applying the dots, and then speeds up our nuking |
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| 18:43.54 | Hjalte | Where can I get Cartographer_Sidelist? |
| 18:45.02 | |Stan| | Codayus: I guess one of the best trinkets for shadowpriests is the Eye of Magtheridon |
| 18:45.14 | alext | you guys talking about quag's eye? |
| 18:45.57 | Codayus | |Stan|: It's decent, but spreists realy really need to be hit capped, which weakens the effect. It's still good though. |
| 18:46.09 | Silowyi | Recount vs SWS |
| 18:46.13 | Silowyi | discuss! |
| 18:46.15 | alext | <---affliction lock, I raid with it, procs a lot just because of all the dot applications |
| 18:46.20 | Silowyi | also does anyone know if Recount syncs? |
| 18:46.37 | alext | if you do a lot of channeling type spells though, it prob wont be that great |
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| 18:47.18 | Dustwhisper | anyone tried/knows how scorchio works here? |
| 18:47.47 | Codayus | Top trinkets are generally accepted to be Crusade and your choice of Skull of Guldan and Silver Crescent. And yeah, it is kinda funny that 2 of the best 3 trinkets are obtained outside of raids... |
| 18:47.48 | Silowyi | "the neopet? |
| 18:47.56 | evl | How do I get my addon to fire onLoad like the XML based addons do? |
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| 18:48.10 | Dustwhisper | TLC + ashtongue is better for arcane missile spec |
| 18:48.17 | Dustwhisper | XD |
| 18:48.19 | Ellipsis | aestil: what's your other trinket? |
| 18:48.36 | aestil | icon of silver crescent |
| 18:48.43 | Balstor | recount kick sws ass from one side of the game to the other |
| 18:48.57 | cryogen | Message: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2_StanceBar\StanceBar.lua line 20: |
| 18:49.00 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.06 | cryogen | lies i tell thee! |
| 18:49.32 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 18:49.34 | Dustwhisper | recount hasnt worked for me in over a month |
| 18:49.36 | Dustwhisper | close to two |
| 18:49.40 | Ellipsis | then you probably want some +hit on your other :/ |
| 18:49.55 | aestil | +hit? |
| 18:49.57 | aestil | i'm hit capped. |
| 18:50.02 | durcyn | Codayus: eh, that's more to do with the total lack of trinket drops |
| 18:50.03 | aestil | i have like 170+ hit. |
| 18:50.04 | Dustwhisper | what class are you Aens|Superiority |
| 18:50.05 | Balstor | i use recount every night, no idea why it's broke for you/ |
| 18:50.05 | Dustwhisper | aestil |
| 18:50.23 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 18:50.50 | cryogen | cncfanatics: uh, SetPointing one to the other made them both disappear :) |
| 18:51.16 | |Stan| | Codayus: my guild just killed maggy and is about to start with ssc. what do you recommend as trinkets for me? (spriest) |
| 18:51.19 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Hit capping is easy fir spriests, we get 10% raw hit from talents. |
| 18:51.29 | cncfanatics | cryogen, then ur doing something wrong rly |
| 18:51.31 | cncfanatics | I use SetPoint myself |
| 18:51.33 | Codayus | durcyn: True, and? :-) |
| 18:51.38 | Ellipsis | bah, we can too Codayus... |
| 18:51.39 | cryogen | fbButton.Frame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", lastButton.Frame); |
| 18:51.47 | Ellipsis | just DoT only =[ |
| 18:51.57 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I suggest you just steal the code for the /fb line command and make it suit ur needs |
| 18:52.02 | Ellipsis | aestil: mag's eye out of the question I assume? :P |
| 18:52.04 | cryogen | where do i find that? |
| 18:52.12 | cncfanatics | Button/SlashCommands.lua |
| 18:52.23 | cncfanatics | one thing, it doesn't anchor buttons to eachother, it sets them relative to eachother but both on UIParent |
| 18:52.29 | Codayus | |Stan|: Same as I do for anyone - the Darkmoon Crusade card and an Icon of the Silver Crescent. :-) |
| 18:52.29 | durcyn | Codayus: and nothing. two caster trinket raid drops so far.. i'm rather glad there are viable choices from badges/darkmoon, personally |
| 18:52.48 | cncfanatics | so u'll have to anchor em together when they're dragged cryogen, and anchor em back off when they're "undragged", u can find the code for that in Button.lua |
| 18:52.53 | Codayus | True, but my point is, I *WANT* there to be some good raid drops, and there aren't... |
| 18:52.58 | cncfanatics | (StartDragging & StopDragging functions, just modify them to suit ur needs) |
| 18:52.58 | chexsum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.13 | durcyn | Codayus: oh, i agree. i feel like a schmuck still wearing neltharion's tear |
| 18:53.23 | evl | What's the LUA equivialent of <Script><OnLoad> ? |
| 18:53.35 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen |
| 18:53.36 | cryogen | confusing me, but ok i'll look |
| 18:53.37 | Ellipsis | um...just executing the code directly |
| 18:53.38 | cncfanatics | ur misunderstanding SetPoint |
| 18:53.45 | cncfanatics | u should supply all 5 arguments |
| 18:53.45 | cryogen | probably |
| 18:53.47 | cncfanatics | instead of just 2 |
| 18:53.47 | cryogen | i suck at gui stuff |
| 18:53.56 | cncfanatics | so did I, but I learned |
| 18:53.56 | Codayus | Bliz get's so cought up in fancy trinkets, when all we really want is some passive +dmg, and, maybe, a boring +dmg click activation... |
| 18:54.09 | cncfanatics | its just coordinates rly :p |
| 18:54.21 | Ellipsis | I *hate* active trinkets |
| 18:54.24 | aestil | i don't really want it, math wise the GCI is better basically. |
| 18:54.34 | Ellipsis | if I want to power up, that's what amp curse is for :P |
| 18:54.53 | aestil | why? i hate proc trinkets, eswpecially since mag's eyeonly proc's when I miss [3 or 4 times in a 3.5 hour raid] |
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| 18:54.58 | cryogen | err |
| 18:55.01 | aestil | it dropped last night. i passed. |
| 18:55.02 | cryogen | this is some weird shit :D |
| 18:55.06 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 18:55.13 | durcyn | Ellipsis: eh, use isn't that bad, just have to actually -rememer- to punch it |
| 18:55.22 | Codayus | For ages I used Scryer's Bloodgem and the Ancient Crystal Talisman...just macroed them to activate off VT. Worked fine... |
| 18:55.30 | Ellipsis | yeah durcyn, that's the problem |
| 18:55.30 | alext | hell i still want that damn nef trinket |
| 18:55.32 | cryogen | i anchored them.. but not quite right |
| 18:55.35 | aestil | when i had GCI and Icon of silver cresecent going, they were both on CD all the time. |
| 18:55.37 | alext | all that dmg and +hit in a trinket rocks |
| 18:55.40 | cryogen | if i want to glue the right button to the left button |
| 18:55.41 | Ellipsis | I have enough trouble figuring out how to effectively put amp into my macros... |
| 18:55.46 | alext | nefarion's tear or whatever |
| 18:55.50 | cryogen | do i want TOPRIGHT , leftbutton, TOPRIGHT, 0, 0? |
| 18:55.50 | Ellipsis | I don't want to add another layer of complexity on top of that |
| 18:55.51 | aestil | GCI is 23 +dmg and then 100 +dmg for 20 seconds. |
| 18:56.00 | Ellipsis | nelth's tear ftw :( |
| 18:56.13 | Ellipsis | tbh, I'll be happy with eye of mag + skull of gul'dan |
| 18:56.17 | aestil | its not a macro ellpisis, just drag your trinkets to your bar, and click them when you want to use it. |
| 18:56.23 | Ellipsis | aestil: you dirty clicker |
| 18:56.25 | cncfanatics | cryogen, go read the SetPoint api |
| 18:56.27 | cncfanatics | on wowwiki :p |
| 18:56.31 | Ellipsis | besides, you could at least macro both trinkets into one button |
| 18:56.31 | aestil | eye of mag is nice for the +dmg, but if you are hit capped, it useless proc. |
| 18:56.50 | cryogen | im reading it |
| 18:56.50 | Ellipsis | the dmg is enough for me |
| 18:56.53 | cryogen | doesnt mean i understand it :p |
| 18:56.55 | aestil | i click pots, and I click trinkets, and I click stuff like Inner Focus, cause i don't want to use that shit on accident. |
| 18:56.59 | durcyn | Ellipsis: what i've found useful is to bind it to my nuke key with a hotkey, i.e. if 6 is shadowbolt, alt 6 is /use 14 |
| 18:57.10 | Ellipsis | durcyn: all modifiers of my SB key are used =[ |
| 18:57.11 | aestil | Ellipsis: math wise, GCI is > mag if you don't count the proc I think. |
| 18:57.14 | Arrowmaster | when i used to keep my icon of the silver crescent equiped, just about the only time id ever use it was with my CoA macro |
| 18:57.14 | Codayus | aestil: Not useless, since there's 1% unavoidable miss rate on spells. But it does decrease the utility... |
| 18:57.52 | Arrowmaster | and my CoA macro is perty large already since it does amp curse and bloodfury then curse of agony all with /stopcasting's |
| 18:57.53 | durcyn | oh, and the ashtongue trinkets, Codays, can't forget those horrible pieces of shit. |
| 18:57.56 | aestil | yeah, i look at wws, and since i miss 4 - 5 times overe the course of a raid [on bosses i'm talking about, not trash] its not really worth it to talk abuot the proc. |
| 18:57.57 | Ellipsis | aestil: whose math, priest or lock? :P |
| 18:58.12 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: warlock ashtongue trinket rocks |
| 18:58.18 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u should rly, Its basic coordinates, a 16 years old brat understood that back in the time when he started coding |
| 18:58.20 | aestil | math is the same either way Ellipsis |
| 18:58.23 | Ellipsis | not exactly |
| 18:58.25 | alext | why not do a amp COD instead and save yourself all the GC's |
| 18:58.32 | cryogen | cncfanatics: yes but, i have the blizz frame inside the button frame :p |
| 18:58.36 | Ellipsis | if we reach hit cap using talents, our miss rate with SB is higher than our DoT miss rate |
| 18:58.37 | cryogen | so its slightly more complicated |
| 18:58.37 | alext | unless your not affliction in which case it doesnt matter really i guess |
| 18:58.48 | Arrowmaster | CoA is much better than CoD |
| 18:58.55 | Ellipsis | so unless the lock is drain DPSing, it's slightly better |
| 18:59.00 | alext | for what spec? |
| 18:59.04 | Ellipsis | *slightly* is probably still insignificant |
| 18:59.04 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u shouldn't rly, why are u doing that ? |
| 18:59.07 | [Ammo] | warlock draindpsing is silly |
| 18:59.13 | [Ammo] | get them imp shadowbolts up kk |
| 18:59.14 | cncfanatics | just find out what states there are, their names, and set spell buttons for htem |
| 18:59.17 | cncfanatics | them* |
| 18:59.18 | Ellipsis | that's my point ammo :P |
| 18:59.18 | [Ammo] | boosts raid dps a lot more |
| 18:59.20 | Arrowmaster | 42/0/19 with points in imp coa |
| 18:59.22 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: hasn't been my experience, at least comparing it to crusade/crescent |
| 18:59.29 | alext | heheh |
| 18:59.34 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51512 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (4 files): |
| 18:59.34 | CIA-12 | Buffalo2: |
| 18:59.34 | CIA-12 | * Some performance increases |
| 18:59.36 | alext | you know how many global cooldowns your using with that? |
| 18:59.48 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r51513 10!SurfaceControl/SurfaceControl.lua: !SurfaceControl: Support LibSharedMedia-2.0, not tested. |
| 18:59.53 | aestil | nvm, you're right, GCI is an average of 43+dmg over 2 min use, and i think mag's eye is base like 53? |
| 18:59.54 | alext | COD owns COA in most cases just from all the global cooldowns your using reapplying COA, at least thats what i hear |
| 18:59.55 | Arrowmaster | like 1 more global cooldown than if i would use CoD |
| 18:59.59 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster, even if you don't count popping trinkets on your CoDs, there's still no way... |
| 19:00.12 | cryogen | cncfanatics: because its easier, they do exactly what the blizz buttons do |
| 19:00.13 | [Ammo] | 'all the global cooldowns' ? |
| 19:00.15 | [Ammo] | like 2? |
| 19:00.16 | cryogen | including texture updating and stuff |
| 19:00.19 | Ellipsis | more than twice the GCDs |
| 19:00.22 | Arrowmaster | ive got 1241 +shadow with felarmor |
| 19:00.26 | Arrowmaster | CoA owns CoD |
| 19:00.26 | alext | its still an extra one |
| 19:00.31 | cncfanatics | cryogen, why even use FB buttons at all then ? |
| 19:00.40 | cncfanatics | just use the blizz ones & reposition then, no need to make FB waste buttons at all |
| 19:00.44 | Ellipsis | aestil: mag's is 54, yeah |
| 19:00.45 | alext | actually in a boss fight its more than 2 |
| 19:00.48 | Arrowmaster | CoA is better than CoD from around 1000 +dmg and higher |
| 19:01.00 | alext | if you average COA over an entire boss fight, your spending an extra 10+ seconds in GC over COD |
| 19:01.02 | aestil | but compared to quag's eye [at 33 or something] then GCi seems better. |
| 19:01.09 | cncfanatics | oh, and cooldown and stuff would be managed for you if you set the spell & type attributes correctly on FB buttons cryogen |
| 19:01.15 | vhaarr | I read a thread on EJ that proved CoD would do more damage than CoA. |
| 19:01.25 | cryogen | no shapeshifts have cds tho |
| 19:01.26 | Arrowmaster | for what amount of +dmg |
| 19:01.27 | alext | vhaarr: yah thats where i got my info on it too |
| 19:01.29 | Ellipsis | plus the DPM is worse |
| 19:01.29 | Arrowmaster | and what talents? |
| 19:01.32 | cryogen | or ye, stealth does |
| 19:01.32 | Ellipsis | not that anyone cares |
| 19:01.35 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: regardless |
| 19:01.40 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen |
| 19:01.42 | Arrowmaster | because shadow mastery still doesnt effect CoD |
| 19:01.43 | cncfanatics | for easy positioning |
| 19:01.49 | durcyn | it really depends on the fight. no way i'm going to doom on something like Gorefiend.. 10 stacked crusade + amplify and it gets 75% resisted |
| 19:01.50 | cncfanatics | scrap the blizz stuff, and do SetPosition(X, Y); |
| 19:01.59 | cncfanatics | just set the buttons 37 * Scale pixels from eachother |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r51514 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-12 | AceTab-3.0: |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-12 | - don't error when asked to unregister a completion set that isn't registered |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-12 | - removed redundant creation of the frame.matches table |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-12 | - more commenting |
| 19:02.12 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: point is that while you're not wasting time waiting for CoA GCD, you're casting a shadow bolt that can crit for 6k+ |
| 19:02.20 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: 1.5sec of casting a shadow bolt |
| 19:02.37 | Arrowmaster | my shadowbolts dont crit for 6k unless im speced demo/destro for tanking leo |
| 19:02.39 | cncfanatics | (and get the scale with GetScale) |
| 19:02.44 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i could grab all the attributes and stuff fom the bliz ones, but i dont know what attributes to grb |
| 19:02.44 | vhaarr | regardless |
| 19:02.52 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I don't care to discuss it, I trust EJ |
| 19:03.05 | durcyn | still depends on the fight |
| 19:03.11 | [Ammo] | 1.5 second = 1500 damage on a non-crit bolt with shit gear |
| 19:03.17 | aestil | vhaar, can you tell me whether or not SP's should use Quag's Eye base don EJ? I can't find it. |
| 19:03.38 | Ellipsis | aestil, is there any non-instant spell in your rotation besides flay? |
| 19:03.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, /dump BlizzButtonName:GetAttribute("type") |
| 19:03.46 | cncfanatics | what does that give cryogen ? |
| 19:03.52 | aestil | MB is 1.5 second cast. |
| 19:03.56 | vhaarr | quags eye affects flay |
| 19:04.02 | Arrowmaster | i use quag's eye and nethlons on my lock |
| 19:04.06 | Ellipsis | GCD makes haste useless for 1.5sec spells anyway |
| 19:04.14 | aestil | yes, but it does not increase the speed with which dots tick, right? |
| 19:04.17 | cryogen | cncfanatics: empty |
| 19:04.17 | Ellipsis | right |
| 19:04.18 | aestil | Ellipsis: yes, i know. |
| 19:04.20 | vhaarr | aestil: it comes down to this |
| 19:04.26 | vhaarr | aestil: you shouldn't have MB on 1.5sec cd |
| 19:04.28 | Ellipsis | so I'd say you're better off ignoring the haste aestil |
| 19:04.31 | vhaarr | aestil: 2 points in that talent is enough |
| 19:04.46 | cncfanatics | cryogen, it is ? |
| 19:04.49 | cryogen | yup |
| 19:04.51 | aestil | vhaarr: i have 4 pts in that talent, for a 6.5 second cd. |
| 19:04.55 | cncfanatics | cryogen, check FrameXML ?N |
| 19:05.09 | cryogen | lets see |
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| 19:05.17 | cryogen | ~framexml ShapeshiftButton |
| 19:05.17 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/ShapeshiftButton |
| 19:05.17 | aestil | i may be the only SP in the world with my spec. |
| 19:05.26 | cryogen | wishful thinking, but you never know |
| 19:05.33 | Ellipsis | aren't you special aestil :P |
| 19:05.46 | vhaarr | aestil: ah, right, I confused cd and casting time |
| 19:05.47 | aestil | as long as haste doesn't increase the speed which dot's tick, i'm pretty comfortable putting Quag's eye back in the bank. |
| 19:06.13 | aestil | vhaarr: if i had a 1.5 second CD on MB i would go OOM fast, but have some really nice burst dmg :) |
| 19:06.14 | vhaarr | it shouldn't do that, but it does affect mind flay |
| 19:06.30 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51515 10Buffalo2/: Buffalo2: Moved to trunk |
| 19:06.52 | Ellipsis | haste won't affect dots (other than cast time for non-instant applications) |
| 19:07.29 | aestil | http://wowwebstats.com/3viqwbf5a2pzy?s=3861-4547&a=26 |
| 19:08.11 | aestil | for vashj, [which that wws is for] i was the guy blowing up the pillars and stuff, so it took away from me being able to MF as much as I normally would. |
| 19:08.34 | cryogen | this:RegisterEvent("UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS");-- Wha?? |
| 19:08.37 | cryogen | heh, framexml ftw |
| 19:09.14 | Ellipsis | gotta love Blizz comments |
| 19:10.17 | Ellipsis | aestil: what do I do with my minimize button :( |
| 19:10.29 | aestil | your chat minimize button? |
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| 19:10.30 | Ellipsis | I don't like where it is on top of that texture, but I don't know where else to put it |
| 19:10.31 | Ellipsis | yeah |
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| 19:10.33 | cncfanatics | cryogen, can't u just loop through all available states ? |
| 19:10.33 | aestil | not use that mod? |
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| 19:10.37 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 19:10.38 | alext | yah the haste proc from quag eye will affect any cast-time spell, will decrease the duration and increase the damage/heal from channeled spells |
| 19:10.39 | Ellipsis | I *wrote* that mod |
| 19:10.40 | cncfanatics | the state name is always the same as the spell name to cast en anyway |
| 19:10.52 | aestil | move the button to the lower left corner then. |
| 19:10.52 | Ellipsis | I can move it or retexture it however |
| 19:10.55 | alext | it will speed up immolate and unstable affliction in terms of the initial cast time, but will do nothing to the dot ticks |
| 19:10.57 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 19:11.07 | aestil | or make it invisible at keybind it. |
| 19:11.18 | Ellipsis | I can't keybind minimizing for every chat frame |
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| 19:11.27 | Ellipsis | sorry, I just don't have enough keyboard for that :P |
| 19:11.33 | aestil | oh. |
| 19:11.37 | aestil | ther are more than one. |
| 19:11.40 | Ellipsis | yarly |
| 19:11.42 | aestil | i'm going to work btw. come gets coffee. |
| 19:11.43 | cncfanatics | there are 9 ? |
| 19:11.47 | Ellipsis | wish I could |
| 19:11.59 | Ellipsis | maybe I'll tell my bf I need him to come home and take care of me 'cause I'm sick |
| 19:12.08 | durcyn | alext: except UA's cast time is already a GCD, and haste doesn't reduce GCD |
| 19:12.11 | Ellipsis | and the only cure is coffee from a starbucks wayyyy up there |
| 19:12.17 | Ellipsis | think he'll go for it? |
| 19:12.18 | durcyn | which it should, dammit. |
| 19:12.25 | cncfanatics | cryogen, how u gonna do it ? I suggest looping through all available states and setting their modified type attribute to spell and their modified spell attribute to the name of the shift |
| 19:12.27 | alext | yah that part sucks |
| 19:12.27 | durcyn | Ellipsis: only if you put out. |
| 19:12.31 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 19:12.39 | alext | altho at least i can move quicker after the cast ;] |
| 19:12.40 | Ellipsis | do you think I'd be living with him if I didn't, honestly? :P |
| 19:12.50 | aestil | l2drive Ellipsis ? |
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| 19:12.55 | Ellipsis | l2buymeacar? |
| 19:13.03 | aestil | l2getajob? |
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| 19:13.05 | durcyn | alext: the solution, obviously, is 6 shamans in tow to spam heroism me |
| 19:13.05 | Silowyi | "This is indeed true... Heart of the Wild in cat form will be changed from 20% STR to 10% AP." |
| 19:13.09 | Ellipsis | l2nowai |
| 19:13.13 | alext | durcyn: yes |
| 19:13.43 | Silowyi | wow this really decreases the utility of strength vs agility in the druid DPS calcs |
| 19:13.44 | Ozguli` | 10% AP is great buff |
| 19:13.57 | Ozguli` | as cat droods don't prolly have that high amount of str anyway |
| 19:14.07 | Silowyi | yeah |
| 19:14.20 | Silowyi | every since Toshk or whatever his name is, and Emeraald, etc... |
| 19:14.20 | Saiek | Any having issues with their WoW client freezing after today's patch? |
| 19:14.20 | Ellipsis | yay, now my bf will stop insisting that str is uber for cats |
| 19:14.28 | Keya | depends, str has the benefit of scalling well with HotW and BoK |
| 19:14.31 | cryogen | hrm |
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| 19:14.37 | Silowyi | Keya, not anymore |
| 19:14.40 | Ozguli` | today's patch? Europe realms get the patch tomorrow |
| 19:14.46 | Silowyi | 2.3: "Heart of the Wild in cat form will be changed from 20% STR to 10% AP." |
| 19:14.49 | Keias | well |
| 19:14.51 | Keya | i know |
| 19:14.56 | Keias | The people playing in North America I mean :P |
| 19:15.14 | Keya | what i meant was: some feral druids in my guild have been stacking str instead of ap |
| 19:15.28 | cncfanatics | cryogen, btw, did u add target support for buffdur ? |
| 19:15.32 | cryogen | yes |
| 19:15.34 | cryogen | works fine |
| 19:15.34 | Silowyi | str instead of agi I assume you mean |
| 19:15.35 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.37 | cryogen | also |
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| 19:15.47 | cncfanatics | I mean $(buffdur focus) and that kind of stuff |
| 19:15.50 | cryogen | fuck stances, im levelling my drood |
| 19:15.51 | cryogen | oh that |
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| 19:15.53 | cryogen | not yet |
| 19:16.01 | cncfanatics | meh cryogen, stances shld be easy |
| 19:16.04 | Silowyi | the problem with stacking str is that in a raid buff situation your AP vastly exceeds the AP/crit balance line |
| 19:16.04 | cncfanatics | gimme the code u got |
| 19:16.09 | Ellipsis | cryogen: WTB buffdur focus, then I has your babies k? |
| 19:16.09 | cncfanatics | I'll code it, but u'll have to do the layouting |
| 19:16.14 | Thrae | Well, I'll be in the Bahamas sometime tomorrow afternoon |
| 19:16.36 | cryogen | what i have works |
| 19:16.41 | cryogen | i just cba doing anymore atm |
| 19:16.43 | cryogen | need to play |
| 19:16.57 | Ellipsis | hmph |
| 19:16.58 | cncfanatics | k k :) |
| 19:17.02 | cncfanatics | happens to me too hehe |
| 19:17.05 | Ellipsis | devs aren't allowed to play |
| 19:17.09 | cncfanatics | cryogen, mind if I try adding extra target support ? |
| 19:17.15 | cryogen | mmm |
| 19:17.18 | Ellipsis | they're supposed to devote all their time to making addons better for us users to play! |
| 19:17.20 | cryogen | go ahead, should be easy |
| 19:17.28 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
| 19:17.31 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 101 mana regen; 91.600 Melee DPS; 14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +15 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 464 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypmert ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ogsgw ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:18:52 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:17.40 | Thrae | Look at how much I play! |
| 19:17.52 | Ellipsis | ooh! |
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| 19:17.58 | Ellipsis | almost 60, gogogo |
| 19:18.01 | cncfanatics | cryogen, from what I see the only thing is that u shld cache all 3 values instead of just 1 |
| 19:18.09 | cncfanatics | and u'd just use the one u want in the textsubs code |
| 19:18.19 | cncfanatics | that'd take 60 sec to add as u know ur code, plx do it ? :p |
| 19:19.06 | kenlyric | oh gods |
| 19:19.17 | kenlyric | what language was that? |
| 19:19.24 | durcyn | kenlyric: canadian |
| 19:19.30 | cryogen | cncfanatics: :p |
| 19:19.42 | cryogen | maybe after i finish up stonetalon |
| 19:19.42 | cncfanatics | cryogen, btw, am I right with what I said ? |
| 19:19.46 | cryogen | pretty much |
| 19:20.22 | cryogen | just need to store the unit and put a check in for it |
| 19:20.29 | cryogen | its just another function call, passing in the unit |
| 19:23.22 | cncfanatics | GetUnitBuffTime(PassedUnit or Button:GetModifiedAttribute("unit") or "target") or GetUnitBuffTime("player") or similar shld do ? |
| 19:23.36 | Astika | anyone want to help me figure out why, when i re-center a simpleMinimap mover+frame (QuestTimerFrame + smmQuestTimerFrame), it disappears from the screen after a /rl, until i check lock or lockdown? |
| 19:23.36 | Varazir[NA] | A question, ( sorry for being a noob) can't you you show up the focus target ? |
| 19:23.53 | cryogen | ya |
| 19:23.55 | cryogen | something like that |
| 19:24.05 | Ellipsis | Varazir[NA], the focus target is visible with most unit frames, which are you using? |
| 19:24.48 | Ozguli` | tell me wth is focus target |
| 19:25.02 | Ellipsis | focus is like a second target |
| 19:25.12 | Ellipsis | so you can keep an eye on two things at once |
| 19:25.35 | Ozguli` | and how to actually use this? |
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| 19:26.07 | Ellipsis | you can type /focus to set your focus target to whatever you're currently targeting |
| 19:26.12 | Astika | pasted code re: my question > http://wowi.pastey.net/75092 ^^ |
| 19:26.18 | Ellipsis | there's a keybinding for it in the blizz options |
| 19:26.22 | Ozguli` | ok |
| 19:26.29 | Ozguli` | should start using that |
| 19:26.32 | Varazir[NA] | I'm using MirageUI Compilation |
| 19:26.42 | Varazir[NA] | if that you mean |
| 19:26.43 | cncfanatics | doesn't tell us a lot |
| 19:26.45 | Ozguli` | well not actually, dpses don't need it |
| 19:26.47 | Varazir[NA] | ok |
| 19:26.57 | cncfanatics | tell us what unitframe addon that compilation uses |
| 19:27.39 | Ellipsis | Ozguli`, it's helpful for CC |
| 19:27.52 | Ozguli` | rogue? ;) |
| 19:27.59 | Ellipsis | I use it to track my seduce/banish target so I can watch and re-CC them |
| 19:28.09 | Ellipsis | probably not all that great for a rogue |
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| 19:28.37 | Ozguli` | alt (main) whatever priest will won't need it until lvl 60 |
| 19:28.53 | Ozguli` | will solo stuff and skip instances if none of my friends wants to help me |
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| 19:29.44 | Ellipsis | Astika: for one thing, I don't see you doing smmQuestTimerFrame, just the actual QuestTimerFrame |
| 19:29.56 | cryogen | feline swiftness ftw |
| 19:30.18 | Astika | smmQuestTimerFrame is anchored to QuestTimerFrame (center, questtimerframe, center, 0, 0) |
| 19:30.45 | Ellipsis | yes but I'm not sure how smm saves that to reapply it on login |
| 19:30.46 | Varazir[NA] | Hmm it sas MirageUI ag unitframe |
| 19:30.48 | Nefarion | I'm curious; is there any reason there still isn't a general frame-recycling library around, or even in one of the frameworks? Is it that nobody's got around to it, or is there any specific issue with the idea? |
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| 19:30.59 | Ellipsis | anyhow, that's the only difference between that and your other movers |
| 19:31.19 | Nefarion | Especially with a table recycling lib in Rock, I'd think a frame recycling system would be nice as well. |
| 19:31.29 | Ellipsis | Astika: also, your code is rather...erm...convoluted |
| 19:31.56 | Astika | I'm fairly new to LUA |
| 19:32.40 | bshelden | Reinventing the wheel check: in game forum system. messages passed about peer to peer style. simple crypto to stop forgery. |
| 19:32.45 | Nefarion | Well if anyone can field that question I'm thinking about a frame recycling lib myself... unless there's a reason not to do it.. |
| 19:33.30 | Ellipsis | bshelden, that wheel has been attempted before, but afaik never succeeded |
| 19:34.10 | Ellipsis | Nefarion: it's more difficult than it sounds, and only useful for certain applications |
| 19:34.31 | Ellipsis | which is pretty much why it's implemented case-by-case rather than in a lib |
| 19:34.47 | bshelden | alright. entirely possible (likely) I'll fail as well, but I didn't want to start that road if it was done already. I'm still at the concept phase. |
| 19:35.02 | Ellipsis | well, good luck anyhow :) |
| 19:35.45 | Nefarion | It's possible if you designate a specific channel to it and have all communications broadcast in this, but the amount of info stored for such things would be a lot to communicate and it wouldn't be realistic for new users to backtrack old info, or info to be stored so users can see info posted while they were offline. |
| 19:36.01 | bshelden | I need to learn wow scripting first. So I wouldn't even consider coding for a couple-three months yet. design only for now. |
| 19:36.13 | bshelden | If I can get past that curve, only then would I consider a project this size |
| 19:36.14 | Nefarion | Really at that point your best bet is an external program that overlays the game and connects you directly to a website with a useful forum. |
| 19:36.39 | Nefarion | Addons in-game can't connect to the internet or external apps by the way, so forget that. =/ |
| 19:36.57 | bshelden | I was thinking of that, but the amount of data in a forum isn't all that large unless I want to keep a long history |
| 19:37.09 | Ellipsis | the only problem is keeping it alive |
| 19:37.15 | neenee | Hm. Can anyone tell me what tekMapEnhancer does? |
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| 19:37.23 | Nefarion | But like I said getting past offline posting and backtacking and such. And the savedvariables would be huge. |
| 19:37.23 | Ellipsis | probably enhances the map, Tekkub style |
| 19:37.32 | Ellipsis | speak of the devil |
| 19:37.40 | bshelden | It would end up something similar to freenet. Things would stay alive only if people keep them there. Maximum storage to avoid a huge savedvariables |
| 19:37.44 | Nefarion | bshelden, check out http://www.lua.org/pil/index.html . It's pretty helpful for Lua programming. |
| 19:37.59 | bshelden | nod. I have the basics of lua down, it's wow itself that scares me |
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| 19:38.08 | Nefarion | lol |
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| 19:39.18 | Ellipsis | bshelden: if the WoW environment is what's scaring you, I highly recommend you *not* read FrameXML :) |
| 19:39.31 | bshelden | I can think of other applications way (way way way) down the line too. Post your crafting list and it becomes searchable even if you're offline. Raid signups, that sort of thing. Get back to be after lick king and I might actually be making progress though, heh. |
| 19:39.45 | bshelden | FrameXML... I peeked once, and backed far away. |
| 19:39.59 | Ellipsis | that's a good sign |
| 19:40.04 | bshelden | This is why I'm not in the Ace IRC channel, heh |
| 19:40.08 | Ellipsis | it means you have a good sense for good/bad code :P |
| 19:40.24 | [Ammo] | there is not much wrong with the framexml |
| 19:40.24 | bshelden | I'm a developer in my day job, so I've been forced to pick up some good habits |
| 19:40.28 | [Ammo] | it's a different style |
| 19:40.34 | Nefarion | Yeah I don't like the games frame XML system. But the amount of data stored in a forum, especially held thread-style, is much more than crafting lists, and a lot to transfer on-demand. |
| 19:41.06 | Zariel | how do i move my Branch to trunk on my SVN? |
| 19:41.07 | bshelden | It is |
| 19:41.34 | do3mca | svn move / svn copy / svn merge |
| 19:41.50 | Nefarion | It really only beomces realistic when you can have bots sit there and store the data, and answer info query calls when needed, which isn't really possible in WoW, unless you want to break the TOS, pay for many accounts AND risk having core necessary bots banned in the middle of data syncing. |
| 19:42.04 | bshelden | For immediate practicality, I was thinking of writing myself a quick mod that lets me see party member's xp gains. (Not worried if it's done, I just want to do this to being to learn ace.) Where would be a good place to start reading to accomplish this? |
| 19:42.09 | Zariel | using tSVN atm |
| 19:42.20 | do3mca | oh. :) |
| 19:42.23 | Ellipsis | well, once you've got PIL down, WoWWiki becomes your best friend |
| 19:42.25 | bshelden | It is assumed that my party would have to use this as well |
| 19:42.28 | Nefarion | Can you get party member's XP gains? |
| 19:42.34 | Ellipsis | not without comms |
| 19:42.38 | Nefarion | I think they may have to use it as well. |
| 19:42.41 | Ellipsis | yeh |
| 19:43.00 | bshelden | That's fine. PIL? |
| 19:43.00 | bshelden | I just need a small goal larger than hello world to get my feet wet |
| 19:43.06 | Ellipsis | ~pil |
| 19:43.07 | purl | somebody said pil was Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 19:43.10 | Zariel | win |
| 19:43.13 | Ellipsis | not on my screen |
| 19:43.17 | Zariel | ^^, when i register an event |
| 19:43.17 | Nefarion | Yeah just send a simple message over a comm channel. I believe an event is fired when a message is recieved, you check the message to see if it's tagged as yours, and then you parse the info for XP gains. |
| 19:43.31 | bshelden | sweet |
| 19:43.56 | Zariel | arg1 |
| 19:43.56 | Zariel | opponent name |
| 19:44.04 | Zariel | grr irc |
| 19:44.13 | Nefarion | I believe the prefix and body of messages are even sent separately, making tag checking and tagging easy. |
| 19:44.14 | sylvanaar | whats the api to get taint information? |
| 19:44.39 | Zariel | with an event how do you use what it Returns? |
| 19:44.41 | bshelden | I picked up "Beginning Lua Programming" recently. I've worked through most of that to get my first taste of LUA itself. |
| 19:44.53 | Ellipsis | Zariel: the args are global vars |
| 19:44.56 | Zariel | f:RegisterEvent ("DUEL_REQUESTED(n)") ? |
| 19:45.03 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 19:45.08 | Ellipsis | just the event name |
| 19:45.12 | [Ammo] | they should not be used as global |
| 19:45.19 | [Ammo] | f:RegisterEvent("DUEL_REQUESTED") |
| 19:45.22 | Zariel | so it will just return it |
| 19:45.29 | Zariel | then how do you call it? |
| 19:45.42 | [Ammo] | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function( this, arg1, arg2, arg3 ) .... end ) |
| 19:45.54 | [Ammo] | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function( this, event, arg1, arg2, arg3 ) .... end ) |
| 19:45.55 | Zariel | oh so you do it there |
| 19:45.59 | Zariel | i see thanks |
| 19:46.00 | [Ammo] | or you do |
| 19:46.02 | andryk | Developer noob question: I'm not understanding UnitArmor(). I call it, b,e,a,p,n = UnitArmor("player"). b = base armor. p = armor buffs. I thought that a - b would be the +bonus from enchantments and kits. But with a Pally's aura of devotion on, I am showing a - b and p to both be equal to the AoD bonus...am I making a stoopid mistake somewhere? I would think that a - b would be 0 (assuming no kits/enchant) and p = AoD bonus.... |
| 19:46.11 | [Ammo] | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function( this, event, ... ) -- do stuff here end ) |
| 19:46.15 | [Ammo] | and select over ... |
| 19:46.24 | Nefarion | Zariel, http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
| 19:46.43 | Nefarion | Some info regarding picking up events there |
| 19:47.10 | sylvanaar | bshelden you can take an old mod I wrote for data sharing, and modify it |
| 19:47.40 | bshelden | sylvanaar: oh? which one would you suggest I start from |
| 19:47.41 | Ellipsis | can someone verify that Blizz prevents enUS clients from connecting to EU servers now? |
| 19:47.59 | sylvanaar | bshelden it was called Interview |
| 19:48.12 | do3mca | Ellipsis: huh? |
| 19:48.37 | Ellipsis | changing my realmlist isn't enough to let me connect to EU realms |
| 19:48.41 | Ellipsis | it used to work like that |
| 19:48.47 | Ellipsis | am I missing something or is it no longer possible? |
| 19:48.51 | Nefarion | Try changing it in both Config.wtf AND realmlist.wtf |
| 19:48.54 | Ellipsis | I did |
| 19:49.05 | sylvanaar | bshelden http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Interview/dev |
| 19:49.08 | Nefarion | Get an EU client then I guess? =/ |
| 19:49.11 | do3mca | EU/US dont share accounts. other than that it should work as expected afaik |
| 19:49.16 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: doesn't teach him about the raw blizzard API though |
| 19:49.19 | Ellipsis | I'm using an EU account do3mca |
| 19:49.23 | Ellipsis | wait... |
| 19:49.26 | Ellipsis | did EU get patched today? |
| 19:49.32 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 19:49.34 | Hjalte | Not yet Ellipsis |
| 19:49.34 | Ellipsis | ugh |
| 19:49.38 | do3mca | EU is always one week behind US |
| 19:49.39 | Ellipsis | anyone know when that would be? |
| 19:49.42 | Zariel | i wish there was a way to fire events from wow |
| 19:49.44 | [Ammo] | 1 day behind |
| 19:49.48 | [Ammo] | we get patch tonight |
| 19:49.51 | [dRaCo] | 12h or something |
| 19:49.52 | do3mca | is tuesday? |
| 19:49.54 | do3mca | oh right. |
| 19:49.57 | Nefarion | You mean custom event Zariel? |
| 19:49.59 | Hjalte | Servers will be coming up again in 24h or so |
| 19:50.05 | Zariel | no |
| 19:50.11 | Ellipsis | hmph |
| 19:50.13 | Zariel | so i dont have to pester people to duel me :D |
| 19:50.18 | do3mca | in 12 hours they should be patched and up |
| 19:50.24 | bshelden | sylvanaar: Thank you. Posted to self so I remember when I get home tonight. |
| 19:50.47 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] he can learn from the code |
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| 19:52.11 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Oh yeah, 12 hours :) |
| 19:52.22 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 19:52.22 | Zariel | gief damn 2.3 patch |
| 19:52.43 | Nefarion | What? |
| 19:52.43 | Gnarfoz | get me 2.2.3 first. |
| 19:52.58 | deltron | gief nao! |
| 19:53.05 | Ellipsis | 2.2.3 is today's :P |
| 19:53.15 | sylvanaar | i'm 50/50 on raw blizzard api's since they 1) change without notice, and 2) are not documented by blizzard |
| 19:53.24 | NivFreak | Man I want 2.3 bad :) |
| 19:54.19 | sylvanaar | its good to know, but to use them - meh, not always so great |
| 19:55.42 | Zariel | fucking keyboard, key sticks and hold down |
| 19:55.48 | Zariel | but on the computer side o.0 |
| 19:56.06 | Zariel | ChatFrame1:AddMessage("|cff33ff99Yaapa:|r "..str) |
| 19:56.09 | sylvanaar | at least with an abstraction API you can put in a workaround for something transparently instead of finding every bliz api call you made and fixing each occurance |
| 19:56.15 | Zariel | stealing hastes code ftw |
| 19:56.19 | Zariel | f:SetScript ("OnEvent", function(self, arg1) |
| 19:56.31 | Zariel | when printing arg1 it prints DUEL_REQUESTED |
| 19:56.37 | otravi | oh shi- |
| 19:56.54 | Nefarion | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(this, event, arg1, ...) |
| 19:56.59 | Nefarion | event is passed |
| 19:58.01 | sylvanaar | someone did something to OnClick hooks which is tainting them |
| 19:58.05 | sylvanaar | maybe me |
| 19:58.40 | sylvanaar | idk, but clicking the playerframe or autobar results in addon_action_blocked |
| 19:58.59 | Nefarion | =/ |
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| 20:03.15 | andryk | Did anyone have any thoughts about my UnitArmor() question? |
| 20:03.44 | Ellipsis | ~api UnitArmor |
| 20:03.44 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitArmor |
| 20:03.54 | andryk | Yes, I've been there. |
| 20:04.09 | Ellipsis | it was for me, I wanted to understand your question :P |
| 20:04.24 | Paene | what was the question? |
| 20:04.28 | andryk | Ah :) |
| 20:04.30 | Paene | and hi Ellipsis :) |
| 20:04.33 | andryk | My apologies |
| 20:04.49 | Ellipsis | andryk: is it possibly a calculation error due to talent improvement of the armor bonus? |
| 20:04.55 | Ellipsis | hai Paene :) |
| 20:05.20 | andryk | I don't think so...the Toughness talent seems to be increasing the base armor |
| 20:05.30 | bshelden | question: do coroutines work in wow? |
| 20:05.35 | Ellipsis | yes |
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| 20:05.47 | Ellipsis | but are rarely a good idea |
| 20:06.09 | bshelden | Thinking of long tasks that I want to spread out so as to have less effect on performance |
| 20:06.26 | Ellipsis | ping Xinhuan |
| 20:06.45 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 20:06.54 | Ellipsis | tell bshelden why coroutines are not the language feature he's looking for |
| 20:06.55 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 20:07.00 | bshelden | heh |
| 20:07.41 | Xinhuan | uh what was the question? |
| 20:07.48 | bshelden | I'll give a practical case |
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| 20:08.40 | bshelden | re my forums idea. Player logs in. forum mod sends a broadcast over the mod channel looking for new messages since date X. recipients of this now need to search their messages for any message newer than X, a potentially long task. I was considering coroutines as a way to break up that problem |
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| 20:09.37 | Xinhuan | to answer your question coroutines are indeed available in WoW |
| 20:09.49 | Xinhuan | if you use coroutine.create(somefunction) |
| 20:10.07 | Xinhuan | you will want to call that function and have it coroutine.yield() fairly often |
| 20:10.18 | Xinhuan | and use an OnUpdate to continually coroutine.resume() it |
| 20:10.29 | bshelden | *nods* That was the idea. In this hypothetical search routine, it would yield every X messages |
| 20:10.43 | Xinhuan | then yes, it will work |
| 20:11.22 | bshelden | Is there a reason to avoid this and instead do something with early returns and upvalues to store state? |
| 20:11.41 | andryk | So I guess I'm confused - does UnitArmor treat Aura of Devotion as a buff, enchant, kit, or part of the base? I would think it would be a buff.... |
| 20:13.00 | Ellipsis | it may be considered base because Auras aren't quite buffs |
| 20:13.01 | sylvanaar | I still cant find the taint information api's |
| 20:13.03 | Ellipsis | but that would be odd |
| 20:13.47 | andryk | It does seem a bit odd. |
| 20:13.56 | Zariel | nefarion |
| 20:13.57 | Xinhuan | bshelden: not really |
| 20:14.03 | Zariel | f:SetScript ("OnEvent", function(this, event, arg1) |
| 20:14.06 | Zariel | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(arg1) |
| 20:14.21 | Ellipsis | wtf, did they nerf CoD on critters? :( |
| 20:14.22 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r51517 10IRQ/IRQ.lua: |
| 20:14.22 | CIA-12 | IRQ: |
| 20:14.22 | CIA-12 | - Fix issue when you don't have a texture set, hopefully. |
| 20:14.29 | Xinhuan | bshelden: memory use would be the only concern, you should use coroutines only if it is difficult to store the state with upvalues |
| 20:14.37 | bshelden | kk good. I'm still wrapping my mind around coroutines. I'm far too used to interrupt driven threading (my main programming background is in java) |
| 20:14.51 | evl | Do we need to clear the whole courtyard before doing supremus? |
| 20:15.03 | Xinhuan | i have a function that has as deep as 7 loop layers nd use coroutines myself hehe |
| 20:15.19 | Xinhuan | evl: yes |
| 20:15.47 | bshelden | Ahh, this particular case would be better with upvalues then. There wouldn't be all that much state to keep track of between calls (an index and the results list, really). |
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| 20:15.47 | mort | it's better to clear it |
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| 20:16.18 | mort | the trash is easy and the drops are nice ;) |
| 20:16.33 | bshelden | My biggest concern, really, is how to transfer potentially a couple megs of data both reasonably quickly and without destroying the framerates of the communicating parties |
| 20:16.48 | Xinhuan | just use whatever is best |
| 20:17.16 | Xinhuan | but if you're transferring heaps of stuff via SendAddonMessage, you are already limited to being throttled |
| 20:17.37 | Xinhuan | or the server will d/c you for spamming |
| 20:17.59 | Arrowmaster | i think my wow crashed perty badly agian |
| 20:18.27 | pastamancer | bshelden: definitely use ChatThrottleLib, and probably your own queue in addition |
| 20:18.42 | andryk | What baffles me is that the the third return value, "Armor" is said in the API to be "The unit's armor after adding armor kits and enchantments but without buffs." So I calculate the bonus value of kits and enchants by doing (armor - base). But when Aura of Devotion is up, (armor - base) = posBuff. So its like AoD is _both_ a buff and a kit/enchant...that's going to be annoying to work out... |
| 20:18.43 | Arrowmaster | not responding and task manager says i have no free ram, but wows gone down to 10mb of ram usage in task manager and over 1.5gb of pagefile usage |
| 20:18.54 | Xinhuan | i'll say using upvalues is slightly easier to keep track of |
| 20:18.56 | Arrowmaster | oh hey wow closed itself |
| 20:19.11 | Xinhuan | where in a coroutine case, you have to check whether a coroutine is running, suspended, or dead |
| 20:19.20 | Xinhuan | and not create a secodn coroutine while the first one is running |
| 20:20.00 | Ellipsis | andryk: if you're familiar with the way dev aura affects the paperdoll numbers, you could look at that code for reference |
| 20:20.11 | bshelden | Xinhuan: Yeah, I hadn't considered that. But I'm not sure how difficult that would be as long as I kept track of running tasks in a table or some such |
| 20:21.14 | andryk | Errrrr....nope. I'm a noob programmer. I'm not sure how the aura works with the paperdoll...don't even know where to look, I'm afraid. |
| 20:21.29 | Xinhuan | not too difficult |
| 20:22.19 | bshelden | Another concern I can think of offhand is the issue of mutating the message table while searching. If a new message comes in while searching, I need to be careful about inserting it. Either insert it immediately and code the search to account for it, or just queue it up until afterwords. |
| 20:22.44 | bshelden | meh, I'll worry about that later. For now I want to stick to high level design. |
| 20:22.50 | Xinhuan | coroutines aren't premptable |
| 20:23.07 | Xinhuan | so no race issues |
| 20:23.35 | bshelden | I'm not worried about race conditions. I'm wondering what happens to, for example, a for k, v in pairs(table) loop if the table changes |
| 20:24.20 | nevcairiel | depends what changes |
| 20:24.24 | bshelden | insert |
| 20:24.34 | nevcairiel | specific position or end? |
| 20:24.46 | bshelden | unordered table. key is some sort of hash id |
| 20:24.51 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:25.26 | pastamancer | I'm going to go with 'undefinied' |
| 20:25.30 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 20:25.44 | bshelden | that's what I figured (again, not stressing about this now, that can wait for low level design in a few months) |
| 20:25.44 | nevcairiel | i guess it depends if lua adds it internally before or after your current key |
| 20:25.51 | pastamancer | I'd recommend having a queue table that you remove items from as they are processed |
| 20:26.04 | bshelden | *nods* that's probably what I'd do. |
| 20:26.52 | bshelden | Besides, in this particular case it wouldn't matter. The player requesting updates would get the new message broadcast too. The player responding to the request for new messages wouldn't need to respond in the search as well. |
| 20:27.23 | bshelden | (yeah, that just came to me now) |
| 20:27.45 | kebinusan | ckknight, the layout import window for pitbull appears annoying behind the rockconfig window |
| 20:27.54 | andryk | A a bit of a design question - I've seen in several FuBar addons that some people use GameTooltip for the hover tooltip, and some people use Tablet...but in the code that I've seen, they don't seem to be doing anything special with Tablet...adding lines to a category, instead of just the tooltip...so why use one over the other? |
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| 20:27.56 | Ellipsis | you killed him kebinusan =[ |
| 20:27.59 | Zhinjio | dropdown menus suck. |
| 20:28.05 | Zhinjio | </rant> |
| 20:28.35 | kebinusan | I have that effect |
| 20:28.38 | andryk | heh |
| 20:28.48 | kebinusan | lets try for a repeat performance |
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| 20:28.50 | kebinusan | ckknight, the layout import window for pitbull appears annoying behind the rockconfig window |
| 20:28.51 | cncfanatics | bedtime, g'night :p |
| 20:29.09 | kebinusan | *annoyingly |
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| 20:31.38 | CIA-12 | 03cryogen * r51518 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Add unit support both from the unit attribute of the button and from $(buffdur unit). |
| 20:31.39 | cryogen | Ellipsis: enjoy |
| 20:31.58 | cryogen | shame cnc just missed it :p |
| 20:32.33 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 20:32.36 | sylvanaar | god - is this the blizzard menu tainting from January |
| 20:33.20 | kebinusan | I havent tried flexbar in a long while, how difficult is the configuration at present? |
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| 20:33.41 | sylvanaar | Using Clique + Prat (with all modules off), it says Prat tried to cast a spell when i try to clickcast |
| 20:36.00 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar - is this the Clique/Prat bug that they were discussing earlier? |
| 20:36.10 | sylvanaar | i missed it |
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| 20:36.23 | sylvanaar | its not in my history |
| 20:36.56 | Ellipsis | idk, clad was asking for people to try and reproduce some issue |
| 20:36.58 | sylvanaar | but its clearly a blizzard bug |
| 20:37.26 | sylvanaar | most likely the fucking menu tainting bug from january |
| 20:37.43 | JoshBorke | ~blame |
| 20:37.53 | [Ammo] | I'd say it's a prat bug, I use clique no probles |
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| 20:38.32 | sylvanaar | its not |
| 20:38.37 | sylvanaar | how could it be |
| 20:39.31 | sylvanaar | prat doesnt cast spells |
| 20:39.34 | [Ammo] | well it's one addons fault |
| 20:39.37 | sylvanaar | no |
| 20:39.42 | sylvanaar | its a blizzard bug |
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| 20:39.53 | Dezzimal | zerix fails at rogue |
| 20:39.57 | zerix | :[ |
| 20:40.08 | Mecdemort | hmm my custom status bar is about 4x slower than blizz's |
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| 20:40.41 | sylvanaar | i just dont see how prat could be doing this |
| 20:40.50 | zerix | Does anyone still have Pitbull problems with target Aura's in raids? |
| 20:40.53 | zerix | like mini lag spikes |
| 20:41.06 | [Ammo] | maybe tghe pitbull_prat module combined with clickasting? |
| 20:41.14 | sylvanaar | nah, i have it all off |
| 20:41.15 | [Ammo] | just tossing out ideas here |
| 20:41.19 | kenlyric | zo |
| 20:41.21 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: does Clique do any macro parsing? could be Prat tainting that again |
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| 20:41.30 | [Ammo] | clique does macros |
| 20:41.33 | sylvanaar | prat core + clique |
| 20:41.37 | kenlyric | I'm pretty sure saying "pitbull" and "aura" logs you in ck's hitlist. |
| 20:41.37 | sylvanaar | no modules |
| 20:41.57 | zerix | because im to the point |
| 20:42.02 | Vandra_^ | my mum is hot |
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| 20:42.04 | Vandra_^ | thats a hitlist |
| 20:42.08 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r625 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (5 files in 2 dirs): added 2 files in .toc: 23_24_Darkshore.lua and 24_25_Ashenvale.lua. dear jebus i hate astranaar on pvp server |
| 20:42.15 | Ellipsis | zerix, it's a known issue that the Aura module does not perform well when there are lots of debuffs up - you can use AltAura which should be more efficient |
| 20:42.16 | zerix | where i just edit the aura lua to just have my own debuffs and cor/sunder/ff/mangle |
| 20:42.31 | zerix | i tried alt aura and my screen turns white, which is a known bug |
| 20:42.33 | zerix | so i'm not using it |
| 20:42.42 | Ellipsis | heh, fun |
| 20:42.43 | Pkekyo | did blizz nerf the warrior Disarm talent yet? |
| 20:42.53 | kebinusan | Pkekyo: next patch |
| 20:43.05 | zerix | i really really really dont want to switch back to AG |
| 20:43.22 | Ellipsis | zerix: some people get around it by using an alternative buff mod to display their targets debuffs |
| 20:43.28 | zerix | such as? |
| 20:43.31 | kebinusan | I dislike that you cant easily configure the number of rows of debuffs |
| 20:43.32 | Ellipsis | e.g. Buffalo2 (although that's buggy and still in branches) |
| 20:43.39 | kebinusan | like having 4 rows of 12 |
| 20:43.50 | Ellipsis | you might be able to do it with Satrina Buff Frames |
| 20:44.03 | zerix | well, i like the way it organizes the debuffs and such |
| 20:44.04 | kebinusan | buffalo2 was moved to trunk this mornin |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51519 10Skillet/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | - Added Window-1.0 to X-Embeds |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | - Moved some function wrappers into ThirdPartyHooks.lua (public API) |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | - Moved the OnHide/OnShow scripts into the XML definition. |
| 20:44.30 | Ellipsis | it was, kebinusan? does that mean the icon/name confusion has been fixed? |
| 20:44.33 | zerix | it just sucks, disabling the aura module and everythings perfect :( |
| 20:46.08 | Paene | So...any way to make dewdrop not order my menu in alphabetical order? |
| 20:46.20 | Paene | when importing a table that is |
| 20:46.35 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis you know prat has guards against tainting macros with secure commands in them |
| 20:46.46 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis but this is an actual API call |
| 20:47.05 | alext | Ellipsis: just curious, when you say that the aura module does not "perform" well when theres lots of debuffs....is that performance-wise or debuff tracking-wise? |
| 20:47.27 | Zariel | im trying to learn to write addons, but am stuck as to what to write and addon for lol |
| 20:47.29 | alext | or something else? |
| 20:47.34 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: I know, but I was just brainstorming |
| 20:47.54 | Ellipsis | alext: performance-wise |
| 20:48.00 | Paene | Zariel: check out the wowace forums, there's a request forum that might spark some ideas |
| 20:48.02 | Ellipsis | it causes lag for some people in raid situations |
| 20:48.13 | sylvanaar | there is nothing i can find with taint |
| 20:48.22 | alext | interesting, thanks for the info. |
| 20:48.51 | Ellipsis | np, there's a fair bit of discussion about it on the forums in various places if you want to know more ^-^ |
| 20:48.58 | alext | yah i do, going to try to find it |
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| 20:50.47 | sylvanaar | ok i was running prat embedded - that will give incorrect results - lets see |
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| 20:51.17 | Ellipsis | you think a lib is tainting it? |
| 20:52.29 | Ozguli` | erm.. should go sleeping now |
| 20:53.10 | Ozguli` | thought I was going blind or something, there was a bling area |
| 20:53.37 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis well, the prat modules are loaded if its embedded is all |
| 20:53.38 | Ozguli` | actually another solution would be cutting thsi hair |
| 20:54.12 | Ellipsis | but you said you were running it without modules |
| 20:54.25 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51520 10Skillet/Skillet.toc: |
| 20:54.25 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 20:54.25 | CIA-12 | - Window-1.0 is actually called WindowLib |
| 20:55.07 | Pkekyo | nelf warrior claiming you only need 100 hit rating for dw fury dps...any opinions? |
| 20:55.31 | [dRaCo] | BS |
| 20:55.41 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, go check ej forums |
| 20:55.59 | cryogen | where would one find the blizzard code that sets up the stancebar? |
| 20:56.40 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: you call bullshit on her statement? |
| 20:56.43 | [dRaCo] | aye |
| 20:57.00 | [dRaCo] | 100 hitrating isnt even enough to reach the hitcap for yellow dmg |
| 20:57.04 | Pkekyo | she called complete bullshit on my statement when I told a guy to aim for 200 |
| 20:57.28 | NightHawkAtWork | she's an idiot. |
| 20:57.55 | [dRaCo] | lemme getcha a link |
| 20:58.18 | NightHawkAtWork | any sane person anywhere will know better, really |
| 20:58.35 | Zhinjio | mybe I'm doing something wrong. UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedID( MyDD, this:GetID() ) isn't changing where the little yellow checkmark is in the list when I drop it down again. |
| 20:58.48 | mort | hitrating, the most overlooked stat in wow... |
| 20:58.58 | Zhinjio | even though the value that appears as "selected" in the not-dropped-down menu is correct. |
| 20:59.01 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: that's what I thought as well...I've got 118 hit rating now, and at times I miss like a drunken tit at easter |
| 20:59.42 | NightHawkAtWork | what is 100 hit rating anyway? that's only what, ~3% hit or something? |
| 20:59.47 | CIA-12 | 03ragnorok * r51521 10SCT_Cooldowns/ (6 files): |
| 20:59.47 | CIA-12 | SCT_Cooldowns |
| 20:59.47 | CIA-12 | -- First upload, should work |
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| 21:00.28 | Astika | is it possible to load one addon, only if another has loaded first? |
| 21:00.41 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: nah, it's more or less at the 2h hit cap methinks |
| 21:00.57 | Ellipsis | Astika: mark it as a dependency |
| 21:01.05 | [dRaCo] | 100 hit rating is ~7% hit |
| 21:01.13 | [dRaCo] | 1.6% too few |
| 21:01.32 | [dRaCo] | well, here's an excel thingy to calculate all that warrior stuff http://elitistjerks.com/502508-post1853.html |
| 21:01.33 | Astika | Ellipsis: Req or Opt? |
| 21:01.47 | Ellipsis | depends what you want |
| 21:02.01 | Ellipsis | if you want your addon to *never* load without the other one being present, Req |
| 21:02.16 | Ellipsis | if you just want to make sure the other addon loads first if it exists, but you can run either way, Opt |
| 21:02.19 | Pkekyo | 118 hit rating = 7.48% +hit atleast |
| 21:02.43 | [dRaCo] | 8.4% |
| 21:02.45 | NightHawkAtWork | according to wowwiki, 100 hit rating is 6.3% +hit, so yeah, not bad for pvp 2h, silghtly low for pve 2h, and idiotically low for dw fury |
| 21:02.52 | sylvanaar | ok - if I remove all the click bindings, no action blocked |
| 21:03.55 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: indeed |
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| 21:04.32 | Zhinjio | anyone have any thoughts on the dropdown menu thing I mentioned? |
| 21:04.52 | Pkekyo | a second nelf has now posted that 100 hit rating is enough... |
| 21:05.37 | Ellipsis | clearly nelfs have a racial multiplier for hit rating |
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| 21:06.16 | [dRaCo] | enough to cap your hit for yellow dmg if you skill those 3% hit somewhere |
| 21:06.30 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: I think nelfs just have a racial divisor for intelligence |
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| 21:06.51 | NightHawkAtWork | i didn't think warriors even had a +hit talent? |
| 21:06.52 | bshelden | I thought (correct me if I'm wrong) that the target hit rating was 143 (~= 9%) for a single weapon |
| 21:07.00 | Pkekyo | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1153346858&postId=11526937020&sid=1 |
| 21:07.04 | sylvanaar | ok - on my normal set of bindings, I get action blocked |
| 21:07.07 | NightHawkAtWork | bshelden: depends on target level/defense, really |
| 21:07.16 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: we've gotten a deep fury 1/3 = 1% +hit talent |
| 21:07.19 | sylvanaar | but, on a new set that I just created, i dont |
| 21:07.20 | bshelden | This ballpark was for raid bosses (level 73) |
| 21:07.24 | NightHawkAtWork | Pkekyo: oh, right |
| 21:07.27 | bshelden | and no extra weapon skill to offset |
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| 21:08.24 | NightHawkAtWork | bshelden: yeah, for raid bosses I think you want something like ~8% hit, I'm not up on the latest math/theorycraft though |
| 21:08.42 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: DW fury? |
| 21:08.44 | NightHawkAtWork | er, and thats just for specials/single weapon really |
| 21:09.02 | bshelden | I just remember looking up my hit rating cap for a druid against bosses. If I remember right, the miss chance is 9% if you have no weapon skill. |
| 21:09.05 | Pkekyo | for DW fury I hear the new numbers are 15-19% +hit |
| 21:09.10 | [dRaCo] | 8.6% for one weapon and yellow damage, to be precise |
| 21:09.11 | sylvanaar | Oh, you know maybe its the blizzard change for spells which are cast when you have no targetr |
| 21:09.23 | Chompers | my +hit is 257 at the moment |
| 21:09.26 | sylvanaar | Yep |
| 21:09.30 | sylvanaar | thats it |
| 21:09.34 | NightHawkAtWork | Pkekyo: yeah, i don't know what's optimal for dw fury, but that sounds right. |
| 21:09.41 | Chompers | it's so close, i get times where i don't miss and it's great |
| 21:09.53 | NightHawkAtWork | When I was enh on my shaman, i was pushing for ~20% +hit, but I got 9% from talents, so it was't hard. |
| 21:09.56 | Balstor | well dual wield fuey hit cap is like 29% but crit and attack power become more important efore then |
| 21:09.57 | Chompers | then i go back to missing every few hits and dps goes way down |
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| 21:10.31 | sylvanaar | Now what does prat have to do with it i wonder |
| 21:11.10 | Balstor | anyone got any good example code for sime nice looking buttons? |
| 21:11.15 | orionshock | 2.2.3 so soon? |
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| 21:11.32 | [dRaCo] | just fixes, orionshock |
| 21:11.35 | [dRaCo] | sound stuff |
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| 21:12.12 | Ailleus | what ace2 addon showed if your partymember is being targeted? |
| 21:12.51 | orionshock | Ailleus: that idea in general is very annoying to do in the first place |
| 21:12.55 | Pkekyo | can't believe this...three people suggesting that at 100 +hit rating you can stop stacking hit...a DW fury warrior's damage comes mostly from goddamn white damage.... RAAAAAAAAAH! |
| 21:13.31 | Balstor | yhea 200 hit rating is considered the minimum for a warrior |
| 21:13.45 | NivFreak | huh? |
| 21:13.48 | Ailleus | i know orionshock but some1 swears he has that option in some ace2 addonpack and since i never heard such ace2 exists i though i could ask |
| 21:13.49 | Chompers | only 200? |
| 21:13.50 | Silowyi | ok for you hit rating guys |
| 21:13.59 | Silowyi | there's liek a billion page thread on this over on elitest jerks |
| 21:14.00 | NivFreak | at 95 hit rating |
| 21:14.07 | NightHawkAtWork | In general, you can assume that the average intelligence of a wow forum goer is slightly below that of a rock. |
| 21:14.07 | Pkekyo | Chompers: I've been told 300-400 is optimal |
| 21:14.08 | NivFreak | 1 str > 1 crit > 1 hit |
| 21:14.08 | Chompers | that's only what? 94% hit on a raid boss |
| 21:14.08 | Balstor | I typed the minimum |
| 21:14.14 | Silowyi | 9% is the base for yellow and 2h |
| 21:14.15 | sylvanaar | There - Fully reproducable: Step 1) Create new clique profile. Step 2) add "default" binding and test, step 3) add "helpful" binding and test (fails) |
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| 21:14.29 | Silowyi | its VERY EASY to get 3% from weapon skill (5 weapon skill) |
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| 21:14.36 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: with what addons |
| 21:14.50 | DracoDan | why does wowcomm sometimes decide to be channel #1? |
| 21:14.50 | Silowyi | plus, there's almost no circumstance under which you don't want that weapon skill on a boss fight. |
| 21:14.59 | sylvanaar | Prat (no modules) + Clique |
| 21:15.03 | Silowyi | so you go for 6% hit, +5 weapon skill. |
| 21:15.16 | Silowyi | so says about a billion people on the Elitest Jerks forums... and that's good enough for me! |
| 21:15.26 | cladhaire | okay.. so what happens? |
| 21:15.32 | Balstor | yhea good +weapon skill doesn't show up till BT |
| 21:15.39 | sylvanaar | hold on, because im disembedded - so some libs are loads |
| 21:15.43 | Silowyi | Balstor: false |
| 21:15.54 | Ellipsis | [Richboi] whispers: can i have 1 g/ |
| 21:15.55 | Pkekyo | silentium: 100 hit rating and +5 weapon skill? |
| 21:15.55 | Silowyi | well maybe for warriors |
| 21:15.56 | neenee | Hm. Where do I get Dongle? |
| 21:15.58 | Silowyi | not so for rogues |
| 21:16.05 | Silowyi | not so for druids either |
| 21:16.15 | Balstor | rogues get gloves in TK |
| 21:16.19 | Silowyi | the 5 weapon skill can come from talents though |
| 21:16.25 | Balstor | warriors get plate gloves in BT |
| 21:16.31 | NightHawkAtWork | neenee: i believe it has a google code project |
| 21:16.35 | sylvanaar | but anyhow - when i have the default and help bindings then clickcast generates ACTION_BLOCKED |
| 21:16.42 | neenee | hm. *searches* |
| 21:16.44 | Silowyi | isn't precision a 5 weapon skill talent? |
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| 21:17.15 | Silowyi | nvm.. it's 3% hit |
| 21:17.19 | Silowyi | gimp |
| 21:17.27 | neenee | Hm. It only has DongleStub |
| 21:17.39 | cladhaire | neenee: You get it from tags on googlecode, why do you need it? |
| 21:17.43 | Ailleus | so is there smth in ace2 library to show |
| 21:17.48 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: can you repro this without prat? |
| 21:18.01 | sylvanaar | im about to try |
| 21:18.01 | Silowyi | Balstor: you could always use the trash leather gloves from Kara! *laff* |
| 21:18.14 | Balstor | i have never seen drop |
| 21:18.27 | Balstor | also still waiting for a trinket from opera |
| 21:18.41 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 21:18.42 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 14935 HP; 15835 Armour; 678 AP; 134.600 Melee DPS; 11.62% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 12 +spell dmg/heal; 326 defense; 18.71% dodge; 29.85% block; 4 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1401 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2479ww ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpbe8 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 10:55:18 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:18.51 | Pkekyo | still in tankinggear...meh |
| 21:18.57 | Balstor | is there a list somplace of all the textures already in game for UI work? |
| 21:18.59 | neenee | cladhaire, an addon needs it. |
| 21:19.13 | CIA-12 | 03ragnorok * r51522 10SCT_Cooldowns/Libs/: |
| 21:19.13 | CIA-12 | SCT_Cooldowns |
| 21:19.13 | CIA-12 | -- Attempt to fix externals |
| 21:19.20 | Pkekyo | did someone break Prat? |
| 21:19.23 | neenee | cladhaire, it complains when I load it. |
| 21:19.26 | Silowyi | Balstor I'm postive wowwiki has it somewhere, let me find a link. |
| 21:19.54 | cladhaire | neenee: Where are you getting the addon from. You should never ever download Dongle standalone |
| 21:20.05 | neenee | from |
| 21:20.06 | Chompers | damnit |
| 21:20.06 | neenee | er |
| 21:20.08 | *** join/#wowace NimbleRabit (n=Nimble_R@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:20.11 | Chompers | im stuck autoattack on VR |
| 21:20.16 | Chompers | *autoattacking |
| 21:20.19 | Grum | LOLLL |
| 21:20.21 | neenee | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tekiRate/ |
| 21:20.22 | neenee | from there |
| 21:20.30 | Grum | did anyone *EVER* try a rotating minimap that was squared? :D |
| 21:20.32 | JoshBorke | downloading tek mods is unsupported ;-P |
| 21:21.10 | Silowyi | Grum: That has to be hilarious |
| 21:21.11 | cladhaire | neenee: You should contact tekkub then, so he can include it |
| 21:21.15 | sylvanaar | cladhaire nope, so it's something else doing it not prat, not clique |
| 21:21.31 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: I saw that you created something to integrate Prat and WIM? Where can I find the modified LUA and w/e I need to make that work. =D |
| 21:21.34 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: interesting |
| 21:21.37 | Silowyi | Balstor: not finding it :( |
| 21:21.44 | neenee | cladhaire, okidoki |
| 21:21.44 | cladhaire | lemme know if you get anything or i can help |
| 21:21.55 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit my branch of WIM is here on the svn |
| 21:22.07 | Grum | Silowyi: it looks totally NUBSIE |
| 21:22.24 | Balstor | thanks i will keep searching |
| 21:22.28 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit under prat somewhere |
| 21:23.33 | Silowyi | Balstor there should be somewhere a list of all the files in the mpqs |
| 21:23.40 | sylvanaar | im going to try with just bugsack |
| 21:23.43 | Silowyi | I don't recall where |
| 21:23.51 | Silowyi | I'd be surprised if no one in this channel knew though. |
| 21:24.30 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: found it, thanks |
| 21:24.49 | Ellipsis | I just spent 5 mins trying to figure out why the texture I was using had this strange spot on it |
| 21:24.57 | Ellipsis | then I alt-tabbed and realized it was dust on my monitor |
| 21:25.32 | Balstor | okay how about this, what is wrong with this statement |
| 21:25.37 | deltron | lol |
| 21:25.45 | Balstor | CreateFrame("Button", nil, total_frame,OptionsButtonTemplate); |
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| 21:26.08 | neenee | cladhaire, "<Tekkub> irate is dead".. so I'll just delete it from my Addons. |
| 21:26.16 | Pkekyo | so, what's this all about? warlocks crying about hamstring not having diminishing returns? |
| 21:26.26 | makiran | n090blocks |
| 21:26.31 | makiran | n00blocks you mean? |
| 21:26.47 | Silowyi | I like n090blocks... it looks cooler |
| 21:26.57 | makiran | hehe |
| 21:27.14 | breser | Weeee FuBar_QuestsFu makes the game crash with 2.2.3 |
| 21:27.23 | makiran | <-- "mains" a lock |
| 21:27.27 | Silowyi | Ya know it would be pretty cool if someone brought WoW UI Designer up to date |
| 21:27.28 | Pkekyo | something like that...I feel that terms like that have been incorporated enough into the warlock class allready, that using those temrs in addition to the regular "warlock" would just be putting butter on butter |
| 21:27.28 | orionshock | screw locks, im a druid and i think that's bs...hamstring dosn't have a DR |
| 21:27.44 | Pkekyo | orionshock: no, it doesn't, but warlocks want it to have DRs |
| 21:27.53 | orionshock | i want it to have a DR |
| 21:27.57 | orionshock | only fair |
| 21:28.01 | makiran | not this one, I just think they need to l2p better |
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| 21:28.27 | makiran | 2.5 years on my lock if you dont count the 9 months he was retired |
| 21:28.32 | Pkekyo | why should hamstring have diminishing returns? just because 'everything else has it'? kindergarten mentality? |
| 21:28.33 | Silowyi | tell the warlock to stop cheezing the arena system with a shadow priest :P |
| 21:28.40 | Silowyi | bof 4tw |
| 21:28.58 | makiran | lock + face melting priest = godlike |
| 21:28.59 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51523 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: |
| 21:28.59 | CIA-12 | .BlackTemple : |
| 21:28.59 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 21:29.05 | Silowyi | but personally I'm all for hamstring having dimenishing returns |
| 21:29.19 | orionshock | Pkekyo: yes.. i have no problem with that argument |
| 21:29.23 | Silowyi | either that or make it cost all your rage, heh, heh |
| 21:30.06 | Balstor | hey it can have DR as long as it doesn't ever miss |
| 21:30.16 | Silowyi | its just kind of stupid how easily a warrior can stop you from doing anything that's not instant, and keep you in range. |
| 21:30.36 | Silowyi | Balstor: your missrate against other players in PvP = their dodge rate... how many casters do you know of that stack agi? |
| 21:30.37 | Gngsk | why is that stupid? |
| 21:30.45 | makiran | anyone here workon/have anything to do with clearfont/mobhealth/? |
| 21:30.52 | Balstor | you know all snares need DR too |
| 21:31.00 | Silowyi | they all have them |
| 21:31.08 | orionshock | warriors are the only class i can think of that can charge in, begin stunlocking and high dps, and are relitively hard to kill |
| 21:31.11 | makiran | pfft, just give everything (including healing) DR |
| 21:31.19 | orionshock | the trade off is DEFENSE for DPS |
| 21:31.24 | Silowyi | healing DR... interesting |
| 21:31.24 | Pkekyo | orionshock: it've got a 15 second duration... and it's the ONLY thing that enables a warrior to even stay somewhat close to his target... might as well start a petition to remove warriors' ability to enter combat with other players at all... |
| 21:31.27 | Balstor | then you have never played a warrior |
| 21:31.31 | orionshock | high defense = low dps, HIGH dps = low armor |
| 21:31.33 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51524 10Skillet/Skillet.toc: |
| 21:31.33 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 21:31.33 | CIA-12 | - updated the author line so it auto-parses properly. |
| 21:31.49 | Silowyi | warriors do have very few outs |
| 21:32.19 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: we have NO outs...none at all, except maybe killing our opponent...but chances are, we will die from dots anyways |
| 21:32.20 | Silowyi | a warrior can't do anything to remove a snare on himself either save trinket... unless, did they fix intercept to remove snares? I don't recall that actually ever going in. |
| 21:32.34 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: no, they did not |
| 21:32.41 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: intim shout sort of works... |
| 21:32.43 | Balstor | no the charg/snare thing was a bug fix |
| 21:32.45 | Pkekyo | they considered it but buffed warlocks or something instead |
| 21:32.57 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: not much as "oh shit" buttons go though |
| 21:33.08 | sylvanaar | cladhaire is wierd, because if i take the "help" binding out it works fine again |
| 21:33.12 | Balstor | made it so charge/intercept didn't end up 20 yards away from your target |
| 21:33.16 | cladhaire | using r88 |
| 21:33.18 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: for how long? chanses are you've critted the bastard recently, so deep wounds will be ticking and break the fear within a second... |
| 21:33.20 | cladhaire | with no other addons? |
| 21:33.20 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 21:33.26 | Kody- | http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7458&Itemid=9 ...that is uh, inventive? |
| 21:33.31 | sylvanaar | nono, it works fine on its own |
| 21:33.34 | Kody- | i really don't know what to think about that |
| 21:33.43 | NivFreak | what snares have diminishing returns? |
| 21:33.51 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: dots have a much much much reduced chance to break fear. I tested this extensively |
| 21:34.00 | Silowyi | Pkeyko: however DD almost always breaks fear. |
| 21:34.13 | Ellipsis | almost always? |
| 21:34.14 | makiran | nother question: didn't see anything on the site for bug reporting. Not that stood out anyway |
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| 21:34.23 | Silowyi | Ellipsis: sample size :/ |
| 21:34.30 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: warrior fear is ALWAYS broken by direct damage |
| 21:34.32 | Ellipsis | in my experience it's not as frequent as PvPers like to think :/ |
| 21:35.03 | Pkekyo | and yes, deep wounds tend to break it more than what's reasonable as well tbh |
| 21:35.03 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: didn't know that. |
| 21:35.04 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: I think it's the only fear that still works like this in the entire goddamn game |
| 21:35.06 | orionshock | Pkekyo: i know better than that, and your wrong |
| 21:35.09 | Silowyi | Ellipsis: dueled a warlock about 30 times out in front of IF just to prove. His fear broke on every single shadowbolt. Did not break on any of his dots. |
| 21:35.12 | cladhaire | sorry got d/c did i miss a response |
| 21:35.21 | sylvanaar | cladhaire the libs loaded are ace2, fubar2, dewdrop, tablet, sharedmedia, and waterfall |
| 21:35.28 | sylvanaar | and babble class |
| 21:35.38 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51525 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (6 files): |
| 21:35.38 | CIA-12 | BigWigs_Azeroth: |
| 21:35.38 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 21:35.38 | orionshock | more often than not -- ie never, when ever im feared -- by lock, priest, warrior alike -- it Always made it's full duration |
| 21:35.39 | Pkekyo | I've never managed to hit someone I popped int shout on without fear breaking, and I've done quite some pvp |
| 21:35.42 | sylvanaar | on thier own both addons work fine |
| 21:36.02 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: yeah, fear breaks on DD "almost always" |
| 21:36.03 | Pkekyo | orionshock: whilst taking direct damage? |
| 21:36.09 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: but very rarely on dots |
| 21:36.14 | Ellipsis | Silowyi: maybe it's different in PvP, but I find myself surprised by SB not breaking fear in PvE quite often |
| 21:36.18 | orionshock | yes while being stunlocked by a rogue no less >.> |
| 21:36.24 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: that.. sucks. |
| 21:36.30 | NivFreak | back to hamstring DRs |
| 21:36.32 | Ellipsis | I'm halfway through re-fearing when the SB lands and the mob is still feared |
| 21:36.34 | NivFreak | what snare has DRs? |
| 21:36.35 | sylvanaar | maybe the securebutton stuff in dewdrop? |
| 21:36.44 | makiran | in PVE Sb does tend to break fear much less than in PVP |
| 21:36.48 | Silowyi | Ellipsis: probably different in PvE, or there's something else in effect, like I said, small sample size. |
| 21:36.53 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: you might be right about the dots, but I've seen it break fear more times than I'm comfortable with... (doomed me every time) |
| 21:37.03 | makiran | pvp seems to be ab out 95% or better, pve closer to 45-50 |
| 21:37.09 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: spec out of deep wounds... >.> |
| 21:37.17 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: your opponents will thank you! |
| 21:37.20 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: wtb impale? :< |
| 21:37.24 | NivFreak | anyone? |
| 21:37.30 | sylvanaar | but it gets attributed to Prat |
| 21:37.33 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | man. Silverlight is...really cool. |
| 21:37.49 | sylvanaar | Prat has called CastSpellByName() |
| 21:37.52 | Silowyi | remember back when mobs had 16 debuffs? |
| 21:37.59 | makiran | that sucked |
| 21:38.06 | Silowyi | "WTHFKOIW WHY IS THERE DEEP WOUNDS ON THE F_CKING CORE HOUND!" |
| 21:38.08 | orionshock | ^.^ alliance... why do the defend at SP? |
| 21:38.14 | sylvanaar | which says to me that ultimately its a blizzard bug |
| 21:38.15 | Silowyi | >.> |
| 21:38.21 | orionshock | they prolonge the game for what? to loose longer? |
| 21:38.23 | makiran | hehehe |
| 21:38.32 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: your code is doing something it shouldn't, so it's Blizz's fault? o.O |
| 21:38.37 | makiran | i miss the 2day AV's :( |
| 21:38.46 | Ellipsis | my money's still on macro parsing - somewhere, somehow :P |
| 21:38.58 | makiran | play one for 12 hours, rejoin it after a few hours sleepin and work |
| 21:39.02 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: its not a blizzard bug |
| 21:39.08 | Chompers | Pkekyo: will +hit lower my chance to glance? |
| 21:39.09 | orionshock | we've got most if not all our forces trying to take SP for the past 15mins |
| 21:39.19 | cladhaire | That doesn't make any sense. |
| 21:39.21 | makiran | that;s jsut annoying |
| 21:39.28 | Chompers | 30% of my attacks on vr were glancing |
| 21:39.37 | Pkekyo | Chompers: don't know really...atleast they nerfed +weapon skill to not lower glance chanse |
| 21:39.38 | Silowyi | I think its hilarious how blizzard fixed afking |
| 21:39.45 | sylvanaar | cladhaire all my modules are off |
| 21:39.52 | Silowyi | and now according to the devs hoard are winning in excess of 60% of AVs per day |
| 21:39.54 | Silowyi | yeah |
| 21:39.55 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: we didn't have that problem...we had this one: "WILL SOMEONE LOOT THE FUCKING DOG OR I'LL DISBAND THE GODDAMN RAID?!" |
| 21:40.01 | Silowyi | you bitch about that bridge, go on. |
| 21:40.05 | makiran | hahaah |
| 21:40.09 | makiran | yeah we had that too |
| 21:40.19 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: but the issue doesn't occur when prat isn't enabled at all |
| 21:40.31 | makiran | there was the one guy "Going afk, runnin to the stopre for pop n smokes" |
| 21:40.39 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: see now I don't get that, master looter was bugged up until we were on AQ40. |
| 21:40.40 | sylvanaar | no, nor does it occur when clique isnt |
| 21:40.58 | cladhaire | thenc learly there's an interaction between the two mods causing an issue. |
| 21:41.31 | Silowyi | Prat and Loot Link have an interesting interaction |
| 21:41.34 | Silowyi | with tab completion |
| 21:41.38 | makiran | we never made it to aq40, weren't hardcore really and then drama tore the guild apart shortly before BC |
| 21:41.51 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: it was grey/white items on the dogs that did it (which still were going around on a 40 mobs, everyone get a grey item basis) |
| 21:41.51 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 21:41.55 | Ellipsis | one of my addons is Dongle |
| 21:41.56 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 21:41.58 | sylvanaar | the fact that Prat gets blamed for making the API call - is yeah macro parsing (which isnt happening) or the old Blizzard game menu bug |
| 21:42.23 | cladhaire | what specifically is the issue |
| 21:42.24 | Silowyi | I love linking [Shadowarder Leggollas ings of Power] and such |
| 21:42.57 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: we used FFA loot in everything until AQ40 |
| 21:43.09 | CIA-12 | 03ragnorok * r51526 10SCT_Cooldowns/: |
| 21:43.09 | CIA-12 | SCT_Cooldowns |
| 21:43.09 | CIA-12 | -- Last upload for today, attempt to fix externals |
| 21:43.10 | makiran | have a bug that i've been trying to track down. conflict between some addons as well. just don't know the coding well enough to fix it :x |
| 21:43.11 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: cause ML would randomly choose people to not put on the list. |
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| 21:43.28 | makiran | yeah, we had that happen so went to FFA |
| 21:43.49 | sylvanaar | cladhaire http://ace.pastey.net/75099 |
| 21:43.51 | Silowyi | made looting the dogs a non-issue |
| 21:43.53 | Ellipsis | you know what's worse than trying to get people to loot the dogs in MC? |
| 21:44.00 | Ellipsis | trying to get people to loot the dogs in an MC pug |
| 21:44.01 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 21:44.04 | makiran | hah |
| 21:44.09 | Punkie` | nah |
| 21:44.13 | Punkie` | i know what's worse |
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| 21:44.23 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 21:44.32 | Punkie` | trying to get people that don't have herbalism to loot those mobs in ssc |
| 21:44.42 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r51527 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 21:44.42 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 21:44.42 | CIA-12 | - fixed some problems where bars were removed if another player cast a second debuff of the same type. |
| 21:44.45 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: weird, we never had that....though one of our officers has had his ML function bugged from back when ZG was released and until this very day! he simply can't masterloot, after several reinstalls of wow etc :p |
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| 21:45.00 | Trell_ | Prince is such a penis. |
| 21:45.10 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 21:45.13 | orionshock | know whats worse, trying to get an AV group to work togeather and not Zerg win everything because that take an hour to win |
| 21:45.22 | Pkekyo | Trell_: not really, use bugtactics ;> |
| 21:45.33 | Silowyi | orionshock: I am not going to play AV after the changes, I'm almost certain. |
| 21:45.35 | Punkie` | zerg win takes 15 mins tops tbh :P |
| 21:45.46 | orionshock | Silowyi: what changes? |
| 21:45.50 | makiran | what are the changes, heard lots of rumor but havent followed up |
| 21:46.01 | Silowyi | orionshock: Just the Tauren 5% HP racial will automatically sway the battleground in horde favor |
| 21:46.01 | Trell_ | we were gearing some new recruits; all but 3 of the raid is well experienced with Prince. The 3 unexperienced were ranged. They were doing fine, yet we still couldn't get prince down |
| 21:46.02 | orionshock | you mean that AFK change? |
| 21:46.07 | Silowyi | one sec I'll link to Nethaera's post |
| 21:46.14 | Trell_ | and you know why? Infernals. |
| 21:46.17 | Silowyi | or drysc's.. whoever wrote it |
| 21:46.30 | orionshock | Silowyi: that's like saying that feral druids LotP makes them more desireable than rogues |
| 21:46.33 | Pkekyo | Trell_: use buctactics :) |
| 21:46.52 | Pkekyo | we did last night....easier than fucking attumen fight |
| 21:46.55 | sylvanaar | cladhaire the only clue i have is that as soon as i add the spell to the "helpful" bindings - the error manifests |
| 21:47.05 | cryogen | wth are bugtactics? |
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| 21:47.13 | Silowyi | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842565&postId=22153035129&sid=1#0 |
| 21:47.16 | Silowyi | there ya go |
| 21:47.31 | cladhaire | yeah dunno |
| 21:47.32 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 21:47.35 | Silowyi | Each team will have a starting reinforcement count. Reinforcements can be lost in significant amounts if a tower is destroyed or if Captain Galvangar or Balinda Stonehearth is killed. For each team member death, an additional reinforcement will be lost. On the death of General Drek’Thar or Vanndar Stormpike, all reinforcements are lost and the team is defeated. At any point in time, if a team is reduced to zero reinforcements, the o |
| 21:47.38 | Ragnorok | can you hear me |
| 21:47.42 | Silowyi | At any point in time, if a team is reduced to zero reinforcements, the opposing team will win the battle. Defending your own teammates, towers, and key NPCs will be an important aspect of maintaining team resources and achieving victory in Alterac Valley. |
| 21:47.46 | Pkekyo | cryogen: a tactic that allow you to avoid infernals completely :) |
| 21:47.48 | Silowyi | that's why |
| 21:48.16 | Silowyi | the horde has significant survivability advantages over alliance in straight up toe to toe fights. |
| 21:48.17 | orionshock | Silowyi: sounds fun |
| 21:48.30 | makiran | Repeating: anyone here work on Clearfont? |
| 21:48.41 | orionshock | Silowyi: you mean that alliance are going to have to Actualy work togeather?? |
| 21:48.46 | Silowyi | unless you can field an AV team, you're gonna have trouble keeping your reinforcement count from determining the game. |
| 21:48.47 | orionshock | O.O no way? |
| 21:48.52 | makiran | haha |
| 21:48.52 | Silowyi | orionshock: will never happen. |
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| 21:49.13 | Ragnorok | can anyone help me with my commits? |
| 21:49.36 | Silowyi | Orionshock: consider that from 1-70 just about every alliance zone is "Barrens Chat" |
| 21:49.45 | Kirkburn | makiran, yes |
| 21:49.47 | NivFreak | orionshock: I still don't see why you think hamstring should have a DR |
| 21:49.55 | orionshock | yes i know , alliance are inherently stupid when it comes to PvP, the inability to work together is a problem yall have. |
| 21:50.16 | Balstor | buttons need to rot in hell |
| 21:50.17 | makiran | kirkburn: have an error poping in the latest version. |
| 21:50.29 | Kirkburn | What's it say? |
| 21:50.30 | Pkekyo | I get really depressed when I see my lvl 16 warrior popping 300dmg white crits, then looking on my lvl 70 warrior that rarely get more than 1100ish white crits /shrug |
| 21:50.37 | Ragnorok | anyone? |
| 21:50.44 | makiran | Kirkburn: \AddOns\ClearFont\ClearFont.lua line 331: attempt to call method 'ApplySystemFonts' (a nil value) |
| 21:50.54 | orionshock | Ragnorok: yes |
| 21:51.09 | Balstor | anyone know an addon that creates it's buttons in LUA and not xml??? |
| 21:51.12 | Kirkburn | makiran, use either ClearFont or CF2, not both :) |
| 21:51.17 | Ragnorok | im having problems with my externals |
| 21:51.35 | makiran | ah, that would probably do it. Didn't even realize i was heh |
| 21:51.49 | orionshock | Ragnorok: what kind of problems? |
| 21:51.50 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: My mage in full season 2 gear with spellstrike pants/head and gladiator weapons + heroic trinkets gets frostbolt crits are about 200 higher damage than at lvl 60. |
| 21:51.52 | Ragnorok | they dont get removed from my embeds.xml when i download without externals, and they dont download when i download with externals |
| 21:51.59 | Kirkburn | makiran, that's my thoughts anyway :) |
| 21:52.08 | makiran | trying to figure out which is causing a conflict with another. WIM, keeping my from being able to link items in the window |
| 21:52.10 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: but they're removing the damage tax in 2.3 :D YAY :D YAY :D YAY :D YAY :D YAY :D YAY :D YAY! |
| 21:52.11 | orionshock | Ragnorok: downloading from svn? or files site? |
| 21:52.18 | Ragnorok | svn |
| 21:52.18 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: my level 40 mage is allready doing more damage than my lvl 70 warrior :< |
| 21:52.25 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: damage tax? |
| 21:52.25 | orionshock | Ragnorok: thats normal, |
| 21:52.29 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: Your warrior fury? |
| 21:52.38 | Ragnorok | im using th ace updater |
| 21:52.39 | Pkekyo | prot nowadays |
| 21:52.40 | orionshock | Ragnorok: it is the svn => files site script that does all that |
| 21:52.49 | makiran | *sheepish grin* ClearFont, v2.1 ClearFont2, v2.1 |
| 21:52.54 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 21:52.55 | Pkekyo | but I've got somewhat good fury gear imo (though still lacking hit) |
| 21:53.00 | orionshock | Ragnorok: SVN is not WAU |
| 21:53.11 | Ragnorok | ok then WAU |
| 21:53.18 | orionshock | Ragnorok: what addon? |
| 21:53.21 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: yes, for mages the spellcasting speed increase for frostbolt and fireball also decreases the bonus from +damage gear |
| 21:53.25 | Ragnorok | SCT_Cooldowns |
| 21:53.52 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: so my lvl 40 mage will do ALOT more damage than my 70 warr now? :p |
| 21:54.01 | Pkekyo | hmm...why will blizzard forums only allow me to post from characters from -one- server? >.< |
| 21:54.04 | Ragnorok | i uploaded it today |
| 21:54.09 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: depends. Your warrior does white damage, your mage does not |
| 21:54.30 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: for fury warriors, white damage is a HUGE percentage of your total damage, iirc something like 60% |
| 21:54.41 | orionshock | Ragnorok: externals are not set |
| 21:54.47 | orionshock | thus no download |
| 21:54.52 | Ragnorok | how do i set them? |
| 21:55.05 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: so, anyway, if you have improved Frostbolt your coefficient from spell damage is 58%... its horrible :P |
| 21:55.14 | orionshock | check it out from dev.wowace.com and set the svn:externals property |
| 21:55.15 | NimbleRabit | How do I get Talented to write a "Template Link" to anything but my current talent spec? |
| 21:55.42 | Ragnorok | then commit? i set the poperties |
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| 21:55.46 | Xinhuan | Silowyi: Empowered Frostbolt raises it back by 10% ;p |
| 21:55.46 | orionshock | yes |
| 21:56.06 | Ragnorok | like so? |
| 21:56.09 | Ragnorok | libs\Ace2\AceLibrary http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary |
| 21:56.10 | Ragnorok | libs\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceEvent-2.0 |
| 21:56.12 | Ragnorok | libs\Ace2\AceDB-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceDB-2.0 |
| 21:56.13 | Ragnorok | libs\Ace2\AceConsole-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0 |
| 21:56.19 | Ellipsis | whoa, hi, that's what pastey is for |
| 21:56.21 | Ragnorok | thats what svn:externals is set to |
| 21:56.26 | Silowyi | Xinhaun it basically compensates |
| 21:56.39 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: don't really understand, but I'm sure you're right :) |
| 21:56.44 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 21:56.44 | orionshock | Ragnorok: in effect yes |
| 21:56.51 | Xinhuan | its not 58% ;p |
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| 21:57.02 | Ragnorok | so, what is wrong? and thanks in advance for help |
| 21:57.03 | orionshock | Ragnorok: how long ago did you set them? |
| 21:57.04 | Orphis | Hi |
| 21:57.05 | Xinhuan | its 83% or so |
| 21:57.05 | Fisker- | http://i22.tinypic.com/2crjzps.jpg CHINESE GOLDFARMER FIGHT!!! |
| 21:57.08 | Ellipsis | mages are allowed to whine about their frostbolt coefficients when Blizz stops making us waste points on instant corruption |
| 21:57.09 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:57.13 | Silowyi | Xinhaun: my math is probably off... frostbolt is what... base 2.5 right? |
| 21:57.16 | Ragnorok | um, like a few mins ago, why? |
| 21:57.18 | Xinhuan | its base 3.0 |
| 21:57.21 | orionshock | Ragnorok: LOL |
| 21:57.30 | Silowyi | base 3.0 right |
| 21:57.31 | Xinhuan | -0.5 spellcast time doesn't change the coefficent, the talent itself does |
| 21:57.31 | Ragnorok | does it take a while? |
| 21:57.32 | Silowyi | you know |
| 21:57.34 | orionshock | svn -> files update is a 20mins delay |
| 21:57.38 | Ellipsis | Ragnorok: I predict your problem will be solved in 3mins |
| 21:57.44 | Orphis | Is there an addon that estimate the time required to down a monster ? |
| 21:57.46 | Fisker- | no Ellipsis |
| 21:57.51 | Silowyi | 3/3.5 |
| 21:57.52 | Xinhuan | so its (2.5/3.5 - 10%)*110% |
| 21:57.55 | Ragnorok | alright, they updated immediatly before, ill wait, thanks |
| 21:57.57 | Xinhuan | so its (3.0/3.5 - 10%)*110% |
| 21:57.59 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 21:58.00 | Fisker- | the script just runs at 0,20 and 40 minutes past the hour |
| 21:58.02 | Fisker- | so ownt |
| 21:58.06 | makiran | lol @ the pic |
| 21:58.10 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: it's :57... |
| 21:58.11 | Ragnorok | and http://ace.pastey.net/ isnt loading for me |
| 21:58.13 | Silowyi | ~g (3.0/3.5 - 10%)*110% |
| 21:58.16 | Xinhuan | the 110% from empowered is multiplied in at the end |
| 21:58.20 | JoshBorke | Ragnorok: the files.wowace.com site has not updated immediately for months now |
| 21:58.20 | Fisker- | i know Ellipsis |
| 21:58.21 | orionshock | Ragnorok: re: Fisker->the script just runs at 0,20 and 40 minutes past the hour |
| 21:58.25 | Silowyi | ~google (3.0/3.5 - 10%)*110% |
| 21:58.28 | sylvanaar | so, only 2 modules get loaded minimap - and keybindings |
| 21:58.33 | Xinhuan | ~(3.0/3.5 - 0.1)*1.1 |
| 21:58.33 | purl | 0.832857142857 |
| 21:58.33 | Silowyi | !google (3.0/3.5 - 10%)*110% |
| 21:58.34 | Ellipsis | so it will be fixed when the script runs in 3 mins (well, 2 now) |
| 21:58.39 | Silowyi | blah |
| 21:58.39 | Xinhuan | 83% like i said |
| 21:58.41 | Silowyi | ok that works |
| 21:58.45 | Ragnorok | ok, so WAU gets from files.wowace? |
| 21:58.47 | orionshock | laters all |
| 21:58.49 | Silowyi | 83% hmm |
| 21:58.52 | Silowyi | weird |
| 21:58.52 | Ellipsis | yes Ragnorok |
| 21:58.56 | makiran | at this rate, i'm not going to get much ore farmed |
| 21:59.00 | Ragnorok | alright, ill wait then |
| 21:59.07 | Silowyi | I must have been looking at something else when I theorycrafted it |
| 21:59.18 | Silowyi | ~(3.0/3.5)*110% |
| 21:59.18 | purl | 0.942857142857 |
| 21:59.25 | Silowyi | still that's an 11% increase |
| 21:59.28 | Silowyi | in damage |
| 21:59.36 | Xinhuan | its an 11% increase on your +damage, not your total damage |
| 21:59.40 | Xinhuan | there's a difference there |
| 21:59.44 | Ellipsis | k you can still QQ moar |
| 21:59.51 | Silowyi | that's still a pretty big increase |
| 21:59.56 | Pkekyo | so...when's HL2: Ep2 released? :> |
| 22:00.09 | Xinhuan | if you have +900, and your frostbolts hit 800, its about an overall 4% increase |
| 22:00.13 | Ragnorok | and quick question,what is WAU 2.0? |
| 22:00.20 | Xinhuan | 800 without any +dmg that is |
| 22:00.26 | Pkekyo | Ragnorok: version to of WoW Ace Updater? |
| 22:00.34 | Ragnorok | ya, but where is it? |
| 22:00.52 | Silowyi | um |
| 22:01.01 | Balstor | hmm apparently setting textures in xml it is a blp file but a LUA set texture is a tga file gg |
| 22:01.02 | Ellipsis | ~wau2 |
| 22:01.03 | purl | well, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 22:01.22 | Ellipsis | Balstor: you can use either filetype for most textures |
| 22:01.23 | Ragnorok | that works |
| 22:01.29 | Silowyi | if you have +900 and your frostbolts hit for 800... then adding 11% of 900 is an overall increas of 99, which is nearly 13% of 800... |
| 22:01.42 | Ellipsis | blp are made by Blizz, a few addon authors convert their textures to it as well |
| 22:01.47 | Balstor | yhea you would think just wasted an hour trying to get a blp file to work through lua |
| 22:01.48 | Ellipsis | but tga works in 99.9% of all cases anyway |
| 22:01.53 | Ellipsis | Balstor: you can... |
| 22:02.03 | Ellipsis | blp will work in any case that tga will |
| 22:02.12 | Silowyi | but an 800 damage frostbolt would be really crappy ^_^ |
| 22:02.14 | Ellipsis | unless your blp file isn't valid |
| 22:02.33 | Ragnorok | ahh it worked, so it was just me having to wait, thanks for your help |
| 22:02.49 | Balstor | you say that but the code in front of me says no |
| 22:03.06 | Ellipsis | Balstor: you can get the same blp file to work in xml? |
| 22:03.14 | Balstor | i was using blp's from an exstiing addon |
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| 22:03.30 | Ellipsis | you probably aren't setting the texture path right then |
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| 22:04.24 | Pkekyo | WTB HL2:Ep2!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!! |
| 22:04.37 | Ellipsis | Balstor: pastey your code and we can help you figure out what's wrong |
| 22:05.20 | kandarz | sylvanaar: not sure if you already know, but in Prat's editbox module, the texture setting doesn't work, it get stuck to one texture, also you can't remove the texture without deleting it from saved variables |
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| 22:05.41 | Balstor | this works L11_but_1:SetNormalTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Quartz\\textures\\Frost") |
| 22:05.42 | sylvanaar | kandarz im not the one working on that |
| 22:05.49 | sylvanaar | kandarz talk to fin |
| 22:06.00 | kandarz | okay |
| 22:06.05 | Balstor | this fails L11_but_1:SetPushedTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\LD50_procwatch\\CloseButton-Up") |
| 22:06.32 | Balstor | and CloseButton-Up.blp is from the original procwatch |
| 22:06.38 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r51528 10GemHelper/ (10 files): GemHelper: Initial commit of GemHelper v1.41. Older release versions are available on WorldOfWar and WoWI UI sites. |
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| 22:07.40 | Ellipsis | Balstor: and the file exists at that path, and you've restarted WoW since you put it there? |
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| 22:08.04 | hyperChipmunk | when was 'send bug' added to bugsack? |
| 22:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | friend just sent me a bug; that's awesome |
| 22:08.25 | hyperChipmunk | well, error message |
| 22:09.08 | Pkekyo | FUCKSAKE! 8hrs 51 min 'till HL2:Ep2 is released |
| 22:09.47 | Pkekyo | bastards |
| 22:09.47 | bshelden | eager much? |
| 22:09.53 | Balstor | hmmm apparently it just worked for the first time, this is annoying, i sense the need for a beer or 5 |
| 22:10.00 | Pkekyo | bshelden: been waiting for this goddamn game for a year :> |
| 22:10.05 | neenee | Hm |
| 22:10.09 | Ellipsis | Balstor: you didn't restart WoW huh :P |
| 22:10.12 | bshelden | [ot] I'm still pissed that they won't let me preorder without rebuying the games I have |
| 22:10.13 | neenee | Oh yea, I pre-ordered the Orange box |
| 22:10.18 | neenee | So I'll get that too I think |
| 22:10.19 | Balstor | button code is annoying, i want good looking ones but nothing easy |
| 22:11.13 | Balstor | I have no idea to be honest ellipsis, maybe my flexbar testing did something sigh, |
| 22:11.24 | Pkekyo | bshelden: agreed...fucking sacriledge they canceled the Black Box.... oh well, you could always sell the games you allready have to a friend... |
| 22:11.55 | bshelden | [ot] Well, they say I can buy what was the black box after release. If not, I'm holding out in protest. Much as I want the game, that was BS |
| 22:12.33 | Pkekyo | bshelden: you can buy the games individually, but it cost ALOT more than preordering the orange box (portal+tf2+hl2ep2) |
| 22:12.39 | vithos | the individual price for ep2+portal+tf2 is $80. i think $45 is a fair price |
| 22:12.48 | Pkekyo | think it's 30$ more than if you preorder it now or something like that |
| 22:13.06 | Orphis | Is there an addon to estimate the time a monster goes down ? It would really help my guild to tune some DPS for the nagas and strider for Vashj and to kill them before the next one pops |
| 22:13.08 | Pkekyo | if I was you, I'd preorder right now |
| 22:13.09 | Ellipsis | so you're complaining that if you pay less, you get extra games? |
| 22:13.43 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: prolly haven't calculated the price when buying the games individually :) |
| 22:13.55 | bshelden | Pkekyo: Yeah, if that turns out to be the case, I may well just not buy ep2, as as that would be. |
| 22:14.18 | Balstor | ellipsis any thoughts on this : CreateFrame("Button", nil, total_frame,OptionsButtonTemplate); |
| 22:14.49 | Pkekyo | bshelden: epic fail at logics? you don't want to buy hl2ep2+tf2+portals and an additional two free games for 35$ less than buying the games separately? |
| 22:15.18 | Pkekyo | preorder it now and sell hl2 + hl2ep1 to a friend goddamnit |
| 22:15.28 | bshelden | Pkekyo: Protest of a BS packaging move. I dislike being forced to buy things I don't need. (There's nobody I can give the codes to). |
| 22:15.33 | Ellipsis | Balstor: it looks like a line of code to me |
| 22:15.38 | Ellipsis | did you want something more specific out of me? :P |
| 22:16.04 | Pkekyo | bshelden: you want both hl2ep2, portals and tf2, right? |
| 22:16.08 | vithos | bshelden: bshelden: it's $45 for 3 new games. the old ones you can consider free. isn't the going price for individual games like $50 in stores anyway? |
| 22:16.12 | Balstor | i gathered from the wiki site it should inherit a frame and red texture but the inherit seems to bring it nothing |
| 22:16.59 | bshelden | vithos: 50 for a game with a playtime of both all three together, yes. The deal itself isn't a bad one (it's damn good, actually). |
| 22:17.16 | Ellipsis | Balstor: I don't know anything about the XML templates, I'd check the name of OptionsButtonTemplate |
| 22:17.25 | Ellipsis | but other than that nothing looks horribly wrong there |
| 22:17.41 | Balstor | hmm |
| 22:18.18 | Ellipsis | lol, one of those kids in SW just said "There is no spoon." |
| 22:18.20 | vithos | bshelden: so basically you wouldn't be complaining if it was $45 for tf2+portal+ep2, but you are complaining because they threw in hl2+ep1 for the same price :P just preorder it. |
| 22:18.21 | Pkekyo | Portal: 19.95$ |
| 22:18.21 | Pkekyo | TF2: 29.95$ |
| 22:18.21 | Pkekyo | HL2e2: 29.95$ |
| 22:18.21 | Pkekyo | if I'm not mistaken, that's 80$... |
| 22:18.21 | Pkekyo | and you refuse to buy these AND get two additional games (which you can sell for a nifty profit) for free for 45$? |
| 22:18.25 | Ellipsis | I had no idea that was one of their say texts XD |
| 22:18.48 | Balstor | lua needs mire tyoe checking and function prototypes!!! |
| 22:19.03 | Pkekyo | sure, it was a shitty decision to cancel the black box, but I seriously doubt you'd get that one for less than 45$ anyways |
| 22:19.07 | Balstor | apparently the 4th argument is a string not a tag |
| 22:19.25 | bshelden | Pkekyo: perhaps. Meh, who am I kidding. I'll probably cave once it becomes available. |
| 22:19.43 | vhaarr | Balstor: nonsense, you can implement those things easily yourself |
| 22:19.46 | Orphis | Is there a reference site for wow API ? |
| 22:19.54 | vhaarr | ~wowwiki |
| 22:19.54 | purl | i guess wowwiki is [www.wowwiki.com] the largest Warcraft wiki in existence, with over 40,000 articles. |
| 22:19.59 | Pkekyo | the reason valve are doing this, is to get HL2 and HL2:Ep1 more widely spread, so they can earn more money from people getting bitten by the bug and wanting to play ep.2 as well... <--- a genious twist to viral marketing |
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| 22:20.27 | Pkekyo | which in turn might buy the orange box, and then hl2 and hl2ep1 willl get spread even further |
| 22:20.34 | Pkekyo | it's a fucking amazing marketing concept tbh |
| 22:20.41 | vhaarr | !api UnitBuff |
| 22:20.42 | ThraeBot | vhaarr: name, rank, iconTexture, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff(unit, buffIndex[, castable]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff |
| 22:20.49 | Balstor | hmm yhea by adding a C interface to wow...... |
| 22:20.57 | vhaarr | Balstor: what the hell are you talking about |
| 22:21.34 | bshelden | Pkekyo: Actually, I find that marketing trick someone slimy. That's why I'm unhappy about the situation |
| 22:21.38 | bshelden | somewhat* |
| 22:22.12 | Dustwhisper | can you hook a 360 to a PC monitor easily? |
| 22:22.17 | Pkekyo | bshelden: ALL marketing is attempts to trick someone into buying something they -really- don't need, by having them think they need them anyways... :> |
| 22:22.19 | Ellipsis | define 'easily' |
| 22:22.37 | Pkekyo | Dustwhisper: if you buy the right cable? yeah, sure |
| 22:22.46 | Dustwhisper | it just requires the right type of cable ? |
| 22:22.47 | Dustwhisper | nothing more? |
| 22:22.57 | Dustwhisper | it's not a HDMI monitor though |
| 22:23.01 | Dustwhisper | only has vga connector |
| 22:23.04 | Pkekyo | I'd imagine SCART --> VGA would work fine |
| 22:23.17 | Pkekyo | HDMI --> VGA as well, but then you'd need a converter, methinks |
| 22:23.20 | makiran | ok, n00blet asking n00b questions since I don't know how to code LUA only some VB, whats the line comment character? |
| 22:23.42 | nogudnik | makiran: -- |
| 22:23.52 | makiran | thanks, thats what i though |
| 22:23.55 | makiran | thought* |
| 22:24.06 | Pkekyo | bshelden: I get where you're coming from, but since valve've come up with this AMAZING marketing concept (which honestly impresses me infinitely), they deserve an extra buck or two... |
| 22:25.14 | Pkekyo | 8hrs 35min |
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| 22:25.19 | Dustwhisper | a buck or two? |
| 22:25.20 | bshelden | Pkekyo: Heh. Not so innovative. Think microsoft. Of course for them it landed them in trouble |
| 22:25.23 | Dustwhisper | i save money using steam to buy those packs |
| 22:25.27 | Dustwhisper | dollar is worth 20% less |
| 22:25.40 | Dustwhisper | nah save even more than that =D |
| 22:25.55 | Pkekyo | bshelden: well, they came up with a really good way to do it, and in my eyes, that deserve some credit |
| 22:26.06 | Pufu | Hmm |
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| 22:26.14 | bshelden | Pkekyo: It will really come down to my annoyance with the trick vs my (very strong) desire to play that game |
| 22:26.29 | Pkekyo | Dustwhisper: I save infinite amounts as well, norwegian retailers are cunts :> |
| 22:26.43 | Dustwhisper | norway here as well =D |
| 22:27.24 | Pkekyo | bshelden: yeah, I fully understand your point of view... in general, I don't support the use of viral marketing, but in this specific case, I don't mind it... (might have something to do with me being a half-life fanboy for almost 10 years now ;> ) |
| 22:27.45 | Ellipsis | you could always do what I do |
| 22:27.50 | Pkekyo | I really wanna see HL2:Ep3 and HL2, so I support them :) |
| 22:27.53 | Ellipsis | don't buy the game, but bum a steam account off a friend who has it |
| 22:27.55 | bshelden | Pkekyo: oh yeah, agreed there. I'm suspecting I'll mutter for a bit and cave |
| 22:27.57 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 22:28.27 | Pkekyo | bshelden: friend showed me half-life at the age of 8, and I've been playing it ever since |
| 22:28.30 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 22:28.31 | bshelden | Ellipsis: Tempting, but being a developer by trade, I feel kind of obligated to pay for it, heh |
| 22:28.44 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 22:29.00 | bshelden | Pkekyo: yep, I played through it in my mid teens. I was *ahem* happy to hear about hl2 |
| 22:29.08 | makiran | i got stared with quake at 14. |
| 22:29.23 | Dustwhisper | Developer by trade myself |
| 22:29.34 | Pkekyo | bshelden: I practically held my breath since I saw the first hint about hl2 in PCGamer until release ^^ |
| 22:29.37 | Dustwhisper | but there are honestly fewer and fewer games I think deserve my money |
| 22:29.45 | Pkekyo | honestly, I don't feel obligated to pay for anything, but in this case I -want to- :) |
| 22:29.49 | Dustwhisper | Settlers 2 10th year anniversary was a brilliant game for me |
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| 22:29.52 | Dustwhisper | So many memories |
| 22:29.54 | bshelden | mmm, I miss the old days of playing with quakeC. Or to go really evil, duke nukem 3d game.con. (developing without variables anybody?) |
| 22:30.02 | Dustwhisper | Yea =) |
| 22:30.03 | Dustwhisper | build! |
| 22:30.11 | Dustwhisper | Used to play duke3d on modem with a pal |
| 22:30.15 | Polarina | Gurkthock yells: $N has defeated the hero of the Warmaul, Mogor! All hail $N! |
| 22:30.25 | makiran | ok, mobhealth bug that's been "bugging me" doesn't seem to break anything, just annoying |
| 22:30.25 | Dustwhisper | racked up idioticly high phonebills |
| 22:30.28 | bshelden | Polarina: heh, I love that bug. |
| 22:30.35 | makiran | hehe |
| 22:30.46 | bshelden | I got a lan working in my high school lab |
| 22:30.52 | makiran | and reporting it and similar ones the GM's say "huh?" |
| 22:30.54 | bshelden | duke3d and quake 1 |
| 22:30.59 | makiran | wolfenstine 3d |
| 22:31.11 | bshelden | Oh I don't even both bug reporting through tickets. Direct to the forums. |
| 22:31.11 | makiran | with the map editor, 3 whole 1.44mb floppies |
| 22:31.15 | Pkekyo | Dustwhisper: I know high phonebills allright...goddamn telenor for milking regular modems and ISDN for as long as they did :< |
| 22:31.55 | Pkekyo | ~archud2 |
| 22:32.38 | Pkekyo | we were still stuck with ISDN modems -at best- in norway, whilst our neighbours in sweden enjoyed 10mbit or so |
| 22:33.24 | Pkekyo | 8hrs 27min |
| 22:35.55 | Pkekyo | When I play rock/ paper/ scissors I always choose rock. Then when somebody claims to have beaten me with their paper I can punch them in the face with my already clenched fist and say "oh shit I'm sorry I thought paper would protect you, asshole." |
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| 22:39.50 | hyperChipmunk | does it werk? |
| 22:39.53 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 22:42.47 | makiran | anyone here work on mob health? |
| 22:43.15 | emagdnim | no one here but us gnomes |
| 22:43.43 | makiran | better n crickets |
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| 22:46.00 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 22:46.00 | CIA-12 | - Added support for rotating minimaps. (any shape supported but non round looks silly) |
| 22:47.05 | sylvanaar | allright, i think i found it maybe - its so goddam convoluted though |
| 22:47.21 | Trell_ | "We will be preparing for the 2.3 PTR soon, an announcement will be made when it starts. " |
| 22:47.36 | Trell_ | oh yeeeaah im gonna update my test client for when that bad boy releases |
| 22:47.46 | Trell_ | ZA plx |
| 22:47.49 | Trell_ | and no premades |
| 22:47.51 | Trell_ | ktxh |
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| 22:47.56 | Trell_ | or, rather, kthx |
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| 22:48.42 | Trell_ | http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/738/bearcavalryva7.jpg |
| 22:48.56 | Trell_ | gief bear mount. |
| 22:49.20 | Pkekyo | 35 fun things to do while driving |
| 22:49.20 | Pkekyo | 1. Have a friend ride in the back seat. Gagged. |
| 22:49.41 | Trell_ | I doubt that's much fun for the 'friend'. |
| 22:49.53 | Kazie | Anyone here with a paladin? .. |
| 22:49.56 | Pkekyo | if the friend is whining, stick him/her in the trunk! |
| 22:50.18 | Pkekyo | 2. Roll down your windows and blast talk radio. Headbang. |
| 22:50.30 | Orphis | How can I time things ? |
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| 22:51.03 | Pkekyo | buy a stopwatch? |
| 22:51.10 | Orphis | I mean, using lua |
| 22:51.30 | Orphis | There's a time fuinction but is there some more small precise function ? |
| 22:52.35 | Pkekyo | "Kids in the backseat cause accidents |
| 22:52.35 | Pkekyo | Accidents in the backseat cause Kids " |
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| 22:53.43 | shieldb | Orphis, GetTime() isn't accurate enough? |
| 22:53.50 | shieldb | That's in milliseconds |
| 22:53.58 | Orphis | I haven't found that function |
| 22:54.00 | shieldb | ahh |
| 22:54.01 | shieldb | ;) |
| 22:55.45 | Orphis | In fact, I'd like to make some utility addon like MobHealth that estimate how long will the monster be alive based on the current DPS |
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| 22:56.24 | Orphis | Something like "Oh noes, with our current DPS the boss will go down in 3 minutes and we only have 2 left before enrage !" |
| 22:57.01 | durcyn | Orphis: TimeToDie |
| 22:57.12 | Orphis | Ok, then my job is done :p |
| 22:57.26 | Orphis | I've already asked twice here but no one answered |
| 22:57.41 | Xinhuan | Orphis: such an addon will be largely meaningless and not useful |
| 22:57.52 | Xinhuan | many bosses have multiple phases where the DPS will vary |
| 22:58.05 | Trell_ | Orphis, with a boss timer you can work that your yourself. |
| 22:58.18 | bshelden | quick question: is MobHealth working again? |
| 22:58.19 | Orphis | Well, I've told a boss example but it is meaningless, but for some trashs it is useful |
| 22:58.20 | Trell_ | ie; 5m till enrage, 50% left, and boss has a 10m enrage timer. You're on track! |
| 22:58.49 | Xinhuan | why would you care about a trash mob that has 8 seconds left to live? |
| 22:58.57 | Orphis | In my guild, we're currently wyping on Vashj and the DPS is not high enough on the strider with the DOTs |
| 22:59.08 | Pkekyo | eight hours |
| 22:59.08 | Pkekyo | one minute |
| 22:59.08 | Pkekyo | thirty seconds |
| 22:59.09 | Trell_ | if you're a hunter who can solo everything, Xinhuan |
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| 23:00.09 | Xinhuan | then the solution is to increase the DPS on striders |
| 23:00.22 | Xinhuan | not to track the DPS on the strider ;p |
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| 23:00.39 | Orphis | If we increase on the striders, we lack DPS on the nagas or elemental :p |
| 23:00.45 | Aens|Superiority | Orphis: what is your current phase 2 strategy? |
| 23:00.47 | Xinhuan | when the strider walks past warlocks that on killing elementals, have them cast a Dot or two |
| 23:01.10 | Xinhuan | if you haven't killed vashj before, try not to bring more than 3 melee DPS |
| 23:01.18 | shieldb | Orphis, Now I'm not positive what your strat is or how your raid makeup usually works out, but adding more warlocks is usually the solution to any problem ;) |
| 23:01.18 | Orphis | We have some rogue, war fury on elementals and some ranged |
| 23:01.28 | Trell_ | i seriously, seriously, seriously hope that there are zero, zilch, no premades for 2.3. |
| 23:01.28 | Aens|Superiority | my guild's first couple times, we had three naga up when phase 3 started. |
| 23:01.28 | Shinja | i disagree |
| 23:01.30 | Xinhuan | all your ranged should be on the strider, once it dies, they can help kill the naga |
| 23:01.33 | Aens|Superiority | some ranged? shouldn't need any |
| 23:01.34 | Xinhuan | not the other way |
| 23:01.38 | Orphis | And then warlocks, mages and hunt on nagas |
| 23:01.44 | Shinja | we have killed vashj with 4 rogues =) |
| 23:02.02 | Xinhuan | i'm saying if they haven't killed Vashj before, i.e need practice |
| 23:02.05 | Orphis | The problem is that the nagas often switch target on rogues, cleaves and kill lots of people |
| 23:02.08 | Xinhuan | once you kill vashj a couple of times, |
| 23:02.11 | Xinhuan | bringing in more melee is fine |
| 23:02.24 | Shinja | use rogue to dps elem |
| 23:02.24 | Xinhuan | but to practice with 4 or 5 is pretty bad |
| 23:02.31 | Aens|Superiority | you dont need to stack your raid for vashj... |
| 23:02.41 | Shinja | North / South / West / East |
| 23:02.51 | shieldb | rogues are terrible at elementals compared to other classes, though |
| 23:02.52 | Xinhuan | clearly some guilds need to because they lack certain classes |
| 23:02.58 | Shinja | no, I'm rogue |
| 23:03.03 | Aens|Superiority | shieldb: ehh.. what are you smoking |
| 23:03.09 | Shinja | I thougth it was stupid |
| 23:03.12 | Shinja | but no |
| 23:03.38 | shieldb | they can keep up just fine, but hunters, warlocks, dps warriors all do it much better |
| 23:03.46 | Orphis | rogues are killing the elementals but when the tainted elemental pops they often don't have time to kill it |
| 23:03.51 | Xinhuan | also, you can pot up for your first kill |
| 23:03.56 | makiran | ok again, anyone whose workin on MObhealth 3 here atm? |
| 23:03.58 | Xinhuan | you might be just slightly off on the DPS |
| 23:04.00 | Shinja | the rogue dps up to 1/2 upstair, the ranged finish the elem |
| 23:04.08 | Shinja | and the ranged can dps naga |
| 23:04.17 | Aens|Superiority | Orphis: thats when you have the casters in the middle cover for the elementals. A rogue should have ample time to solo down a tainted if they sprint to it the second it spawns |
| 23:04.34 | ZealotOnAStick | makiran: what's your issue or question with MH3? |
| 23:05.00 | Orphis | And the problem for striders is that they cannot be kited with one warlock because of aggro issue and they change target |
| 23:05.03 | Xinhuan | Aens|Superiority: the issue with that strategy if the the next tainted also spawns by the rogue and his sprint is on cooldown |
| 23:05.08 | makiran | "chat" and "chat assist" trandlation not existing. 2 diff errors |
| 23:05.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Orphis: sure they can. |
| 23:05.14 | Xinhuan | and his other abilities as well |
| 23:05.14 | Aens|Superiority | Orphis: then your warlocks are bad |
| 23:05.26 | makiran | in ace-locale-2.2.kua |
| 23:05.29 | Shinja | Xinhuan: no the rogue must to not going to high on the stairs |
| 23:05.41 | Xinhuan | Orphis: gonna have to say that there are guilds that kite it with a single mage, or a single shaman, or a single lock |
| 23:05.42 | Aens|Superiority | Xinhuan: its never been a problem for our rogues or melee classes down there. |
| 23:05.53 | Shinja | I'm make 2/3 of damage on elem, the ranged (mage) finish it |
| 23:06.03 | Orphis | And our mages, that are surely better players than our locks, have problems with it too |
| 23:06.12 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51531 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:06.12 | CIA-12 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 23:06.12 | CIA-12 | - 33306 Racing Reins |
| 23:06.12 | ZealotOnAStick | makiran: you posted about it on the appropriate forum thread (or made one if there isn't)? |
| 23:06.19 | Shinja | we have made it tonigh, no dead =) (shitty loot) |
| 23:06.22 | Xinhuan | well aens, you implied that "sprint" is needed |
| 23:06.35 | makiran | not yet, wasnt certain what forum it needed to be since there was no defined "bug" forum |
| 23:06.36 | Shinja | we never sprint ;o |
| 23:06.37 | Xinhuan | "A rogue should have ample time to solo down a tainted if they sprint to it the second it spawns" |
| 23:06.50 | sylvanaar | meh, forget this shit, its not my bug |
| 23:06.52 | ZealotOnAStick | include the full error message, line numbers, etc. If you don't have already, get buggrabber and bugsack. |
| 23:07.04 | makiran | got swatter :) |
| 23:07.07 | ZealotOnAStick | you'll get the most detailed error message there, probably pointing to the ACTUAL addon problem. |
| 23:07.20 | ZealotOnAStick | as I sort of doubt it's actually in Ace-locale. |
| 23:07.24 | clad|sleep | i read Aens|Superiority as Anal|Superiority. |
| 23:07.25 | clad|sleep | I'm going to bed. |
| 23:07.28 | clad|sleep | night! |
| 23:07.34 | hyperChipmunk | Crotch Domination! |
| 23:07.34 | sylvanaar | I removed all the code in prat that hooks anything |
| 23:07.39 | sylvanaar | nada |
| 23:07.40 | Aens|Superiority | sprint isn't needed if they manage their position well. I really dont understand how you could have problems with tainteds as a melee class. Especially since they nerfed the water |
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| 23:07.44 | Shinja | make 4 group with: melee (very down of the stairs), ranged (to finish elem and DPS naga and strider), an healer just a the top to send the core from the melee |
| 23:07.48 | Orphis | An other question, can the loot mode (ffa, master looter) be changed when in combat ? |
| 23:07.51 | makiran | i did notice that in the code in the LUA, it has a comment at the end to the effect of removing it later |
| 23:07.59 | Shinja | and phase2 is a piece of cake |
| 23:08.08 | clad|sleep | sylvanaar: ping me or PM me if you get anything you need me to do or adjust |
| 23:08.09 | clad|sleep | =( |
| 23:08.10 | Xinhuan | Orphis: yes |
| 23:08.10 | Aens|Superiority | Orphis: yes, but the threshold exploit was fixed a while ago |
| 23:08.26 | Shinja | no need exploit, just use "FFA loot" |
| 23:08.34 | Shinja | and the 4 group and a macro |
| 23:08.38 | sylvanaar | clad|sleep i have nothing to go on |
| 23:08.40 | Aens|Superiority | well, the exploit made vashj a total joke |
| 23:08.44 | Balstor | orphis you trying lady vashj? |
| 23:08.46 | Orphis | Some people in my guild says that we cannot change the loot mode to master looter when in P3 and we should take care of ninjas |
| 23:08.50 | Shinja | like /target healgroup /use Tainted core |
| 23:08.51 | Orphis | Yes Balstor |
| 23:09.02 | Xinhuan | that is incorrect |
| 23:09.10 | Xinhuan | you can change loot mode anytime, in or out of combat |
| 23:09.13 | Shinja | change it before P2 and back to ML in P3 |
| 23:09.14 | Xinhuan | as long as you have (L) |
| 23:09.30 | Balstor | yhea can swap loot or bigwigs has an adoon to do it |
| 23:09.31 | Pkekyo | 7hrs 51min 10sec |
| 23:10.11 | CIA-12 | 03peragor * r51532 10GridStatusHealer/embeds.xml: |
| 23:10.11 | CIA-12 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 23:10.11 | CIA-12 | - Fixed Threat-1.0 embed |
| 23:10.13 | Balstor | Orphis you can jump on my guilds vent i will tell you how we do it |
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| 23:10.38 | Orphis | I don't have vent and I think I'll may have problem with english ^^ |
| 23:10.43 | sylvanaar | clad|sleep unless you know of any debugging tools? |
| 23:10.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Orphis: is your guild seriously concerned about your own people ninjaing loot at Vashj? |
| 23:11.10 | Orphis | But we're getting some help from guilds that have killed Illidan so we're not clueless :p |
| 23:11.13 | Shinja | i was in a guild before, we put rogue on naga, we didn't manage to kill vashj, no i'm in a guild with rogue on elem, it works fine, i told my former guild to try this tech, they killed vash'j in 3 days |
| 23:11.32 | Aens|Superiority | Orphis: All I gotta say is that the raid leaders should do a bit more research into the fight. Try bosskillers or even the bradygames strategy guides. |
| 23:11.50 | Orphis | No ZealotOnAStick but you may never know people with auto loot, seeing something shine and autoaccepting the item to be bound |
| 23:11.55 | Balstor | the biggest thing is to only bring 4 melee and one tank |
| 23:12.12 | Balstor | at least for the initial kill |
| 23:12.14 | Aens|Superiority | Balstor: unneccessary even on first kills. |
| 23:12.22 | Shinja | Vash'j and KT are much harder than the boss in Hyjal / BT.. |
| 23:12.27 | Aens|Superiority | if anything, that screws over your phase 3 dps |
| 23:12.38 | Shinja | it's weird |
| 23:12.47 | Balstor | maybe but it makes life a lot simplier, when you can yell over vent melee why the hell are you up here!! |
| 23:12.52 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51533 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 23:12.52 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 23:12.52 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 23:13.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I use autoloot all the time. You still have to click a confirmation button to loot it. |
| 23:13.26 | Aens|Superiority | vashj is not harder than BT/Hyjal content... |
| 23:13.33 | Xinhuan | i see people click incorrecly all the time |
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| 23:13.39 | Xinhuan | like clicking "release" instead of "use soulstone" |
| 23:13.43 | Aens|Superiority | cept rage and akama, but those fights are just free purps. |
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| 23:13.50 | Xinhuan | or click "release" instead of "self rez" |
| 23:14.23 | Balstor | Orphis the biggest issue we keep having is the 12 people assigned to the sides, the 4 healers there keep forgetting the 2 people on their side is their #1 priority. |
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| 23:14.58 | Orphis | Our problem is killing nagas and striders... Well, we'll change some assignment |
| 23:15.08 | Balstor | also warriors work best on east west sides druids rogues on north /south sides |
| 23:15.35 | Aens|Superiority | naw, druids on east/west too. Feral charge and sprint |
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| 23:15.46 | Balstor | make sure all the dots are going up in the center, also a shadow priest in a mage group can help |
| 23:16.20 | Orphis | How many people are dotting the striders ? |
| 23:16.22 | Balstor | inercept is better for that side, you could do that but why |
| 23:16.40 | Aens|Superiority | feral charge IS intercept.. |
| 23:16.46 | Balstor | everyone out of the 13 in the center that has a dot should be dotting anything that moves |
| 23:17.09 | Balstor | use hunters and your lesser mages on the sides keep all the locks in the center |
| 23:17.45 | Balstor | feral charge is but you lose energy to use it which could be spent shreding on the north/south |
| 23:18.06 | Aens|Superiority | not really |
| 23:18.26 | Aens|Superiority | I'm a feral druid and I was always assigned on west |
| 23:18.37 | Aens|Superiority | from the north pillar to the south pillar. |
| 23:18.46 | Balstor | what i'm saying you got 3 druids 2 warriors but the druids north/south warriors east/west (it's optimal but a lot of things will work) |
| 23:18.47 | Pkekyo | anyone know why photoshop won't let me save to .jpg? :< |
| 23:18.57 | Aens|Superiority | Pkekyo: save a copy as |
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| 23:19.36 | Balstor | also Orphis if you carry more than 5 melee but them on the sides , leave the center for ranged |
| 23:19.39 | Pkekyo | Aens|Superiority: won't let me save as jpg :< |
| 23:19.48 | Aens|Superiority | what version photoshop? |
| 23:19.49 | Pkekyo | not_at_all |
| 23:19.52 | makiran | most odd |
| 23:20.15 | Pkekyo | CS3 |
| 23:21.32 | Aens|Superiority | o save files in the JPEG 2000 format, you must get the optional JPEG 2000 plug-in and install it in this location: Adobe Photoshop CS3/Plug-Ins/File Formats. This plug-in is available from the Photoshop CS3 installation CD in Goodies/Optional Plug-Ins/File Formats. Extended JPEG 2000 (JPF) format provides an expanded set of options compared to the standard JPEG 2000 (JP2) format. However, you can make files JP2 |
| 23:21.43 | Aens|Superiority | not sure how much of that got through |
| 23:22.04 | Pkekyo | Aens|Superiority: it worked fine yesterday, so doubt it's some randomass plugin I need |
| 23:22.23 | Aens|Superiority | # Choose File > Save As, and choose JPEG from the Format menu. |
| 23:22.23 | Aens|Superiority | # In the JPEG Options dialog box, select the options you want, and click OK. |
| 23:22.36 | Aens|Superiority | i'm just going by the adobe help file atm so idk! |
| 23:22.54 | Aens|Superiority | i use photoshop 7.0 still. Haven't bothered buying anything newer. |
| 23:23.16 | Aens|Superiority | http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/10.0/help.html?content=WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-776a.html |
| 23:24.25 | Pkekyo | cheers, but I got around the problem :) |
| 23:24.34 | Pkekyo | save as .png, rename to .jpg |
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| 23:25.34 | Ragnorok | quick question about svn and externals |
| 23:25.44 | Ragnorok | is embeds.xml case sensitive? |
| 23:25.54 | Ragnorok | cause mine is Embeds.xml and it isnt being modified |
| 23:26.05 | Ragnorok | when downloaded using WAU |
| 23:26.06 | zeeg | its probably case sensitive |
| 23:26.09 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51534 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: Fixed typo in AceHook |
| 23:26.46 | Ragnorok | ok |
| 23:27.00 | sylvanaar | goddammit - that was the worst bug ever |
| 23:27.20 | |Stan| | but you fixed it? |
| 23:27.27 | sylvanaar | its been there for a year |
| 23:28.08 | shieldb | hmm, is there a good way to tell what's hooking a particular frame for tracking down tainting? |
| 23:28.24 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51535 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: Fixed bad check |
| 23:28.35 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51536 10Prat/Refactor2/extras/util.lua: Prat: note to self - when copy/pasting code from other places, check that the code isnt redefining intrinsic functions like "tostring" |
| 23:29.52 | sylvanaar | LUA + taint dont mix |
| 23:30.18 | sylvanaar | its the wrong language now that they added taint |
| 23:30.30 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51537 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: Fixed bad check |
| 23:30.35 | shieldb | One addon I'm running is breaking my raidframes somehow so I can't pull up the blizzard raid panel in combat to move groups :( |
| 23:31.31 | shieldb | I'm just trying to figure out if there's a more precise way then disabling half of my addons until I gradually pin it down to whatever is causing it ;) |
| 23:33.32 | Diao | talented_data needs an update :( |
| 23:33.36 | sylvanaar | but there you go, easy way to screw up everyone UI function "loadstring(...) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("hahahaha") end" |
| 23:33.40 | Diao | shieldb do you use auldlangsyne |
| 23:33.44 | CIA-12 | 03ragnorok * r51538 10SCT_Cooldowns/Embeds.xml: |
| 23:33.44 | CIA-12 | SCT_Cooldowns |
| 23:33.44 | CIA-12 | -- Removed Embeds.xml for next commit. |
| 23:34.01 | shieldb | I do - was that doing it to you? |
| 23:34.09 | Diao | yep |
| 23:34.13 | Diao | it's auldlangsyne_note |
| 23:34.15 | Diao | or whatever |
| 23:34.22 | Diao | because it adds the "notes" button on the bottom of your social pane |
| 23:34.30 | Diao | i already asked Kemayo to separate it out |
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| 23:34.33 | Diao | so it doesn't taint the window |
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| 23:34.54 | sylvanaar | taint what windo |
| 23:35.01 | shieldb | the social window |
| 23:35.05 | shieldb | raid / guild / etc |
| 23:35.15 | Diao | yep |
| 23:35.18 | Diao | friends/who/guild/chat/raid |
| 23:35.19 | Diao | social pane |
| 23:35.21 | CIA-12 | 03ragnorok * r51539 10SCT_Cooldowns/embeds.xml: |
| 23:35.22 | CIA-12 | SCT_Cooldowns |
| 23:35.22 | CIA-12 | -- Readded embeds.xml as lower case. |
| 23:35.30 | sylvanaar | how do you modify it without tainting |
| 23:35.39 | Diao | separate it into a module that people can disable |
| 23:35.51 | Ragnorok | there we go, hopefully it should work now |
| 23:35.53 | Diao | i don't even use that "notes" panel |
| 23:35.57 | sylvanaar | answer = you dont |
| 23:35.58 | Ragnorok | in 4 minutes i will know |
| 23:35.59 | Diao | i only use the notes for friends |
| 23:36.08 | Diao | so until it's separated i just leave it on |
| 23:36.14 | Ragnorok | i turned off notes, cause i use CT_Core and it already has notes in it |
| 23:36.42 | sylvanaar | why does it matter if the window is tainted |
| 23:36.56 | Xinhuan | you can't drag ppl around in combat to switch their groups |
| 23:36.56 | shieldb | if the window is tainted, you can't pull up the blizzard raid frame in combat to move groups around |
| 23:36.58 | Xinhuan | if it is tainted |
| 23:37.18 | sylvanaar | they should guard that stuff |
| 23:37.27 | Xinhuan | they can't |
| 23:37.30 | sylvanaar | they can |
| 23:37.39 | Diao | yea you can't open your social pane in combat |
| 23:37.47 | Diao | when ALS notes is enabled |
| 23:37.49 | Xinhuan | they changed it so none of the raid stuff in the panel is protected |
| 23:37.58 | Diao | which is kind of annoying since i'm a RL and have to switch people in groups and sometimes i forget |
| 23:38.01 | Diao | before combat starts |
| 23:38.20 | Xinhuan | so you can no longer use the social pane to target people |
| 23:39.09 | Xinhuan | it used to be that the entire social frame is protected |
| 23:39.15 | Xinhuan | so you can't even show or hide the entire thing in combat |
| 23:39.34 | Xinhuan | so now they just unprotect the whole thing |
| 23:39.37 | shieldb | now you just get a blank raid tab in that event ;) |
| 23:39.43 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 23:39.58 | Xinhuan | since a protected frame's parent is also protected |
| 23:40.09 | shieldb | but hey, at least I can browse my friends and guild list in combat, right? :( |
| 23:40.13 | Diao | lol |
| 23:40.22 | shieldb | I know that was my primary concern on archimonde last night |
| 23:40.43 | Pkekyo | well, this looks promising! windows throwing 'critical system error' messages when attempting to open folders |
| 23:40.49 | sylvanaar | blizzard needs to protect it better |
| 23:41.40 | sylvanaar | just like the pet bar for MC'd stuff STILL gets tainted |
| 23:41.40 | shieldb | failing that, even some sort of a notification about what's tainting it would be cool |
| 23:41.51 | shieldb | though that may just be me not knowing what to specifically look for |
| 23:42.14 | sylvanaar | they could create a log |
| 23:42.34 | sylvanaar | but as you can see they dont |
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| 23:44.43 | CIA-12 | 03siz * r51540 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/AddonSpamFu.lua: |
| 23:44.44 | CIA-12 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 23:44.44 | CIA-12 | - Watch WHISPER messages sent via ChatThrottleLib |
| 23:44.44 | CIA-12 | - Only hook SendAddonMessage once |
| 23:45.44 | NivFreak | are you guys watching this thread about mac crashes with 2.2.3 and custom sounds? |
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| 23:47.33 | Ackis | so, is there anyway to get past the 255 char limit for macros? i got my brewfest mount today and want to add it to my random mount macro lol |
| 23:48.10 | makiran | I haven't seen one since flexbar and haven't looked into FB2 since it's out. |
| 23:48.35 | makiran | don't really have the drive to learn it and redo my UI to use it again. |
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| 23:49.26 | Diao | does anyone use bosswhisperer |
| 23:49.51 | Mecdemort | is there a surefire way to query the server for an unseen item |
| 23:50.55 | Diao | like to check if it's been seen without getting dced? |
| 23:51.12 | Xinhuan | yes mec |
| 23:51.28 | Xinhuan | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:"..itemid) |
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| 23:52.26 | Orphis | Is it possible for an addon to query a list of items from the server ? |
| 23:52.43 | Orphis | Or doing the GameTooltip trick in a loop ? |
| 23:52.45 | Xinhuan | yes Orphis, repeat the above command several times for each itemID. |
| 23:53.08 | Xinhuan | don't try it more than 100 or so times within a 10 sec block or the server will d/c you for spamming. |
| 23:54.51 | kebinusan | Since trying to get an itemid that doesnt exist no longer DC's you, how about modifying carto-instance loot to try and snag all the ID's when you bring up the boss |
| 23:55.07 | Xinhuan | atlasloot enhanced already does that kebinusan. |
| 23:55.10 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51541 10Prat/extras/util.lua: Prat: Merge this single change to trunk separately |
| 23:55.30 | Mecdemort | Xinhuan: can't get that to work |
| 23:55.41 | Xinhuan | dont' use it with atlas. |
| 23:56.02 | Xinhuan | install cartographer, disable carto_instanceloot, then install atlastloot without altas. |
| 23:56.36 | kebinusan | interesting |
| 23:56.56 | Xinhuan | atlastloot enhanced > carto_instanceloot by far |
| 23:57.03 | Xinhuan | because it contains data for a lot more things |
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| 23:57.14 | Xinhuan | every instance, every pvp reward, every reputation vendor |
| 23:57.31 | Xinhuan | and even rare items like card game and legendaries |
| 23:57.44 | Xinhuan | so you can easily browse the arena sets for every class, for eg |
| 23:57.46 | Xinhuan | or AV rewards |
| 23:58.03 | Xinhuan | and also search which boss an item drops from |
| 23:59.28 | Xinhuan | if you always wanted to know "how much honor this item costs", its also there ;p |
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