| 00:00.06 | dodga | Ellipsis: So, about those pics you insisted to post... |
| 00:00.11 | Ellipsis | I did? |
| 00:00.14 | aestil | liez, she did no such thing. |
| 00:00.24 | dodga | Quiet damned! I nearly tricked her! |
| 00:00.26 | aestil | does dongle have acetab type functionality? |
| 00:00.30 | Ellipsis | no |
| 00:00.36 | Ellipsis | and I never posted pics in this channel |
| 00:00.37 | aestil | ace3 does, i believe, have an acetab |
| 00:00.49 | Ellipsis | I have only linked pics in PM and one other channel :P |
| 00:00.55 | dodga | Aha! So you DID post pics |
| 00:01.02 | aestil | you linked that pick of you, with the hello kitty thing the other day. |
| 00:01.06 | dodga | I see. The "other" channel |
| 00:01.14 | dodga | Since when does this "other" channel exist, do tell. |
| 00:01.16 | Ellipsis | aestil, lol |
| 00:01.24 | Ellipsis | that's pochacco, not hello kitty |
| 00:01.57 | dodga | Ellipsis: Bless you. |
| 00:02.04 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 00:02.31 | dodga | pochacco looks like asian snoopy |
| 00:02.55 | Ellipsis | but he's cute :( |
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| 00:03.25 | dodga | It's a series? |
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| 00:03.47 | Arrowmaster | Toadkiller: my friend says you broke autobar |
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| 00:04.09 | aestil | - When you inspect another player, you can now see their talent choices |
| 00:04.16 | aestil | someone is telling me thats in the patch notes. |
| 00:04.20 | Ellipsis | it is |
| 00:04.24 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: itis |
| 00:04.33 | aestil | did anyone else laugh out loud when they read that? |
| 00:04.39 | Arrowmaster | i swear i read the patch notes earlyer and didnt see that |
| 00:04.52 | Ellipsis | the patch notes changed slightly after the initial post |
| 00:04.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: i think they updated them recetnly |
| 00:04.59 | Xinhuan | they changed the patch notes |
| 00:05.01 | Xinhuan | by reposting it |
| 00:05.03 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: it amused me slightly |
| 00:05.12 | Xinhuan | basically the entire "UI inteface" section was reposted |
| 00:05.18 | Xinhuan | a whole chunk of stuff added |
| 00:05.21 | aestil | like, i can't BELIEVE that people got as up in arms as they did over that rock comm shit, and now, there is no doubt API for it, and bam, we can all do it to each toher, no matter what. |
| 00:05.29 | Wobin_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288042225&sid=1 |
| 00:05.36 | Ellipsis | aestil: not exactly, the API will be limited to inspect range |
| 00:05.39 | Wobin_ | aestil: That's never been the argument =P |
| 00:05.48 | aestil | people who made the argument that it shouldnt' have been in a core lib, thats fine. |
| 00:05.49 | Kemayo | Randomly: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22556281-661,00.html |
| 00:05.52 | NimbleRabit | Anyone know what mod might be causing "large semi-transparent images" of a spell to appear in the middle of a screen like a big button when it comes off cooldown (or maybe for another reason). I've seen it in some videos and I'm interested in checking it out. |
| 00:05.58 | aestil | but waaaaaay to many people did it based on stupid privacy arguments. |
| 00:06.17 | Wobin_ | aestil: Anyway, lets not bring it and all the drama up, k? =P |
| 00:06.21 | Ellipsis | all the arguments except the one about including it in the core are pretty much gone now |
| 00:06.25 | dodga | Ellipsis: How's it called? Do I need mad underground connections to get some episodes? :p |
| 00:06.36 | Ellipsis | NimbleRabit: Jim's cooldown pulse I think it's called |
| 00:06.39 | aestil | yes, exactly my point Ellipsis, that one is still a reaonsable argument. |
| 00:06.52 | NimbleRabit | Ellipsis: thanks I'll look into that |
| 00:07.04 | aestil | Ellipsis: why will it be limited to range, blizzard has an opperutnity here to make their default LFG system suck less. |
| 00:07.07 | aestil | won't they do that? |
| 00:07.17 | Ellipsis | aestil: nope, they won't |
| 00:07.18 | aestil | too me, thats teh biggest implimentation of the talents in game. |
| 00:07.38 | NimbleRabit | EnhancedLFG + RockComm = Win |
| 00:07.44 | Wobin_ | the default lfg should list Tobermory (Rogue) [combat] |
| 00:07.47 | Wobin_ | or something |
| 00:07.58 | Wobin_ | but the default lfg needs work |
| 00:08.00 | aestil | yes. |
| 00:08.14 | Ellipsis | the default LFG will now color people by class in 2.3 |
| 00:08.19 | aestil | well, enhanced LFG already takes care of it based on rock comm talents, but it requires everytong to be running rock comm. |
| 00:08.20 | Ellipsis | that's the best they could come up with |
| 00:08.42 | dodga | Hm. |
| 00:08.54 | dodga | The raid panes that have been pulled out into the gamefield should save their option settings between sessions now. <- shouldn't this already work since like.. 10 patches ago? :o |
| 00:09.23 | Ellipsis | "should" != does :P |
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| 00:09.36 | Xinhuan | clearly |
| 00:09.42 | Xinhuan | it proves that BLizzard doesn't use their own raid UI |
| 00:09.54 | hyperChipmunk | dodga: they put that note in every patch |
| 00:10.02 | dodga | I see |
| 00:10.13 | hyperChipmunk | it's like tradition or something |
| 00:10.13 | dodga | At least, Priests do get some nice changes. And not just new icons. |
| 00:10.22 | aestil | holy priests, i want something for ME |
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| 00:10.44 | Wobin_ | rogues don't get much in way of buffs |
| 00:10.47 | Wobin_ | aside from shadowstep |
| 00:10.51 | Ellipsis | wait wtf |
| 00:10.53 | Wobin_ | and poison |
| 00:10.54 | dodga | But I see it coming. In about two weeks they'll be like "whooohoo, got ya all. was just a joke. warlocks can now one hit everything. every-thing." |
| 00:11.05 | Ellipsis | did they just add that Shadow Embrace thing to the warlock notes? |
| 00:11.09 | Ellipsis | I swear I didn't see that before |
| 00:11.11 | Stanzilla | buff shadowpriests |
| 00:11.13 | Stanzilla | !! |
| 00:11.15 | Wobin_ | Ellipsis: probably |
| 00:11.17 | Ellipsis | does that mean it no longer affects drain life? |
| 00:11.18 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 00:11.20 | Wobin_ | That's the most recent afaik |
| 00:11.29 | dodga | Stanzilla: Night Elf priests rejoice! finally our racials don't suck balls! |
| 00:11.42 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:11.59 | dodga | But if that Starshards DoT is arcane damage I'm seriously gonna hurt some puppies.. |
| 00:12.07 | aestil | i'd like some sort of change to MF which makes it not break on AoE type dmg. |
| 00:12.16 | ag` | ofc it is arcane |
| 00:12.21 | dodga | I mean, it's nice to be able to cast when shadow is countered.. but wtf.. |
| 00:12.35 | Ellipsis | it's arcane because Blizz can't make it useful |
| 00:12.36 | aestil | or, actually, i'd prefer that I can spec to make its range 36 yards, but completely lose the snare effect. |
| 00:12.58 | Stanzilla | dodga: Im human |
| 00:13.02 | Wobin_ | dodga: Except for starshards =) |
| 00:13.10 | Wobin_ | dodga: That still sucks =P |
| 00:13.17 | aestil | having the only spamable ability you can do, be channeled, and short range, and gimped on coeefficient because of a snare thats almost completley useless in PvE is stupid. |
| 00:13.26 | sag_ich_nicht | THREAT REDUCTION |
| 00:13.35 | aestil | sag_ich_nicht: wtf. |
| 00:13.36 | Wobin_ | although it'll work as a antistealth dot I guess |
| 00:13.45 | dodga | Wobin_: Ah, I use it every now and then |
| 00:13.50 | dodga | And people go like "whoa! what is that!" |
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| 00:14.01 | sag_ich_nicht | aestil: THREAT REDUCTION. i will make myself heard thru every single communication system that the internet has to offer. |
| 00:14.06 | dodga | It's just like that warrior, who did not know he could thunderclap in def stance |
| 00:14.14 | dodga | Man that warrior sucked reaaally hard |
| 00:14.27 | Wobin_ | dodga: Not as bad as the warrior with the "Aggro bar" |
| 00:14.37 | Wobin_ | "If the red bit goes higher, I've got more aggro!" |
| 00:14.55 | dodga | hm |
| 00:15.00 | dodga | Okay, that one clearly wins |
| 00:15.07 | dodga | Not by far, but still winner |
| 00:15.09 | Wobin_ | It really really didn't win =( |
| 00:15.12 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 00:15.32 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: you still haven't explained what you're on about |
| 00:15.37 | Ellipsis | unless it's pain supression |
| 00:15.45 | Wobin_ | Pallies were promised threat reduction |
| 00:15.46 | Wobin_ | and didn't get it |
| 00:15.52 | Wobin_ | so Sag's a bit put out |
| 00:15.56 | dodga | wtf would pallies need that? |
| 00:16.13 | dodga | gief ze threat reduxxion to ze shadows! |
| 00:16.20 | Wobin_ | I'll let him explain. He's much more verbose =) |
| 00:16.35 | Wobin_ | s/verbose/eloquent/ |
| 00:16.38 | aestil | pally dps is completley threat capped. |
| 00:16.39 | Bruners | how can i get ratingbuster to show spellcrit in the summary on my holy paladin |
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| 00:16.55 | dodga | There is no such thing as "Pally DPS" to begin with. Next. |
| 00:16.57 | aestil | so, with the changes to ret, which may possibly make them useful in raids as dps. |
| 00:17.03 | aestil | read changes, kk thanks. |
| 00:17.19 | dodga | Nah, I like uninformed trolling more |
| 00:17.19 | aestil | they won't be able to do more dmg anyways, cause of threat cap. |
| 00:17.27 | aestil | clearly. |
| 00:17.35 | Trell_ | Wobin_: > aside from shadowstep - you call that a buff? |
| 00:17.37 | Bruners | we use a retridin in our raids and it works great |
| 00:17.45 | Wobin_ | Trell_: Well... no =) |
| 00:17.46 | dodga | Hey you can cleanse over 40 yards now! |
| 00:17.46 | Trell_ | I call the inc in cd time a nerf; and the threat reduction useles.. |
| 00:17.53 | Trell_ | *useless |
| 00:17.54 | Wobin_ | But I'm trying to look for anything that isn't a nerf =P |
| 00:18.15 | Wobin_ | Well it's a 'buff' in that you don't need to be stealthed =) |
| 00:18.27 | Wobin_ | so you -could- use it to screw up spellcasts |
| 00:18.27 | kebinusan | Here's one for all the bitching about RockComm communicating talent points: When you inspect another player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment. |
| 00:18.37 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:18.40 | Ellipsis | in b4 "late" |
| 00:18.45 | JoshBorke | "Here's one for all teh bitching about RockComm..." |
| 00:18.47 | Wobin_ | kebinusan: welcome to 20min ago |
| 00:18.53 | dodga | Hm |
| 00:18.54 | kebinusan | ah |
| 00:18.55 | Ellipsis | 20min? |
| 00:18.56 | kebinusan | my bad |
| 00:18.59 | Ellipsis | we were discussing it *four hours* ago |
| 00:18.59 | dodga | So Vindication now lowers stamina too? |
| 00:19.01 | Wobin_ | something like that =P |
| 00:19.02 | kebinusan | shoulda scrolled up |
| 00:19.08 | durcyn | OLD NEWS KEBINUSAN |
| 00:19.13 | JoshBorke | why are people so fucking antogonistic? |
| 00:19.23 | Wobin_ | JoshBorke: Cause they can |
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| 00:19.44 | aestil | someone in another guild on my server killed leo 3 weeks ago. |
| 00:19.51 | aestil | i asked him, 'hows vashj going' |
| 00:19.57 | aestil | he says 'haven't attempted yet' |
| 00:20.01 | Ellipsis | :| |
| 00:20.01 | aestil | i said *boggle* |
| 00:20.10 | Bruners | not even attempted? |
| 00:20.12 | Bruners | laff |
| 00:20.27 | Xinhuan | now now, maybe they haven't killed hydross ;p |
| 00:20.32 | aestil | no, they have. |
| 00:20.41 | Xinhuan | or they want to work on TK bosses |
| 00:20.51 | aestil | but whereas i thought they were snapping at our heals [we are attempting kt now] they must be litterally a whole instance behind us. |
| 00:20.57 | aestil | who works on KT before Vashj? |
| 00:21.08 | Xinhuan | i'm assuming they haven't killed alar or solarian, etc |
| 00:21.08 | Ellipsis | n00bz |
| 00:21.21 | dodga | aestil: Stoopid people, duuh |
| 00:21.30 | Xinhuan | it could be possible, i don't have the full details or data here regarding the situation ;p |
| 00:21.34 | Bruners | solarian is easy since the patch |
| 00:21.43 | aestil | well, considering those bosses are easier than Hydross and Lurker [respectivly] how good is it gonna make youf eel to kill them? |
| 00:21.57 | Xinhuan | so i'm just stabbing at reasons in the dark hehe |
| 00:22.48 | JoshBorke | lol, lurker easy. rofl |
| 00:22.53 | JoshBorke | my guild is full of idiots |
| 00:22.57 | Wobin_ | we got him down last night =) |
| 00:23.02 | Wobin_ | I wasn't there =( |
| 00:24.39 | JoshBorke | "wtf man, i can't get out of the water" |
| 00:24.41 | aestil | lurker is a boss you kill after you spend 1 attempt on him. |
| 00:24.44 | JoshBorke | "you mean we're supposed to kill the adds"? |
| 00:24.55 | aestil | JoshBorke: you can just sheep 3. |
| 00:24.59 | aestil | and kill the hunters. |
| 00:25.20 | JoshBorke | aestil: my guild leader/raid leader is an idiot but no one else wants the raid leading job because it sucks balls |
| 00:25.35 | aestil | raid leading job doesn't suck balls. |
| 00:25.41 | aestil | loot distro sucks balls. |
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| 00:29.52 | kadrahil | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/75181 |
| 00:30.47 | kadrahil | ckknight: unless that was fixed between 51570.1 and 51570.2 |
| 00:34.54 | NeoTron | benefit of raid leadership: you pick which group your in |
| 00:35.13 | kadrahil | i'm leading our kara raid tonight O_o |
| 00:35.22 | kadrahil | if it ever happens... we need 3 more dps, another healer and an offtank to show up |
| 00:36.50 | NeoTron | aestil: we killed al'ar and VR before Vashj. is that really so strange? |
| 00:37.08 | Ellipsis | I'll dps in your kara kadrahil! |
| 00:37.08 | NeoTron | we had saved solarian solely because we knew the fight was changing and didn't want to gear up AR tanks.. ended up doing it anyway |
| 00:37.15 | Ellipsis | I just need to transfer...and uh...get my key |
| 00:37.45 | kadrahil | Ellipsis: :/ |
| 00:37.49 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 00:37.57 | kadrahil | we're about to put kara behind us |
| 00:37.59 | Ellipsis | I hate being so far behind that nobody will even help me catch up >_< |
| 00:38.05 | kadrahil | two groups have it on farm now and are DEing loot every week |
| 00:38.36 | kadrahil | we just can't get enough people online to run 25 mans during the week since we live in 4 different timezones |
| 00:38.38 | Ellipsis | if there's one thing I could take back from the past year it would be my choice of char for TBC :/ |
| 00:38.45 | kadrahil | what, hunter? |
| 00:38.54 | Ellipsis | no, I leveled my druid to 70 first and started raiding with her |
| 00:38.59 | Ellipsis | even though I hate healing |
| 00:39.09 | Ellipsis | and now that I'm on my lock I can't catch up |
| 00:39.11 | Wobin_ | feral ftw |
| 00:40.43 | kadrahil | i'm wishing i hadn't levelled a hunter as my main |
| 00:40.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:16] <dodga> gief ze threat reduxxion to ze shadows! <--they have 25% threat reduction already. NEXT |
| 00:41.14 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks. |
| 00:41.15 | Trell_ | 20minutes \0/ |
| 00:41.15 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 00:41.21 | Wobin_ | kadrahil: they make great farming toons! |
| 00:41.27 | kadrahil | Wobin_: yeah.. |
| 00:41.40 | kadrahil | Wobin_: just don't expect to get a guild invite to anything past a kara guild |
| 00:41.42 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 00:41.44 | sag_ich_nicht | damn you Ellipsisl |
| 00:41.45 | Stanzilla | double the damage of shadowpriests! |
| 00:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | -l |
| 00:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | now i feel lonely again. :( |
| 00:41.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleslap Ellipsis |
| 00:41.55 | purl | ACTION beats Ellipsis upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 00:42.01 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 00:42.05 | Ellipsis | I'm sorry, I tried to help |
| 00:42.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 00:42.09 | Bejitt | pfft we take 2-3 feral druids everywhere |
| 00:42.10 | Wobin_ | kadrahil: Hunters are useful for High King Maulgar =) |
| 00:42.11 | sag_ich_nicht | not your fault. |
| 00:42.18 | Bejitt | they're not useless like warriors when they're not tanking |
| 00:42.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll go to bed now |
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| 00:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | have to stand up in 3 1/2 hours. |
| 00:42.27 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:42.29 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:42.53 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 00:42.58 | Ellipsis | nighty night <3 |
| 00:43.05 | Stanzilla | night bad german |
| 00:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | NOT a german. |
| 00:43.18 | sag_ich_nicht | gtfo |
| 00:43.31 | Stanzilla | you are one! |
| 00:43.33 | Stanzilla | admit it! |
| 00:43.34 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 00:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | austrian |
| 00:43.40 | sag_ich_nicht | noob |
| 00:43.41 | sag_ich_nicht | night. |
| 00:43.43 | Stanzilla | omg |
| 00:43.45 | Stanzilla | even worse |
| 00:47.36 | NeoTron | I feel like a lot of the UI changes (many inspired by third party addons) will cause some nice conflicts |
| 00:48.22 | Ellipsis | possibly |
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| 00:51.25 | Wobin_ | wow |
| 00:51.32 | Wobin_ | that was like calling a Belgian a frenchie =P |
| 00:51.43 | Stanzilla | hm :/ ^^ |
| 00:51.52 | Stanzilla | being an austrian is worse than being a german^^ |
| 00:52.21 | Trell_ | forums.worldofwarcraft.com down for anyone else? |
| 00:52.48 | Balstor | question: Does GetSpellName(i, BOOKTYPE_SPELL) return in the local language or english? |
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| 00:53.44 | JoshBorke | something is modifying my chat messages |
| 00:54.01 | JoshBorke | does oRA modify chat messages? |
| 00:55.22 | Ellipsis | modifying how? |
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| 00:58.42 | JoshBorke | it's changing the names to include the class |
| 00:59.17 | Stanzilla | and the talentspec! |
| 00:59.21 | Stanzilla | orwellian! |
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| 01:01.16 | Borked|Raider | anyone els getting WoW-2.2.2.7318-to-0.2.3.7344-enGB-downloader when trying to dl test client |
| 01:01.30 | Balstor | sounds like tattle |
| 01:01.37 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r51731 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 01:01.37 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 01:01.37 | CIA-12 | - Fix /tp mob default |
| 01:01.37 | CIA-12 | - add asserts for a condition that is rarely happening that shouldn't |
| 01:01.38 | Trell_ | yeah Borked|Raider |
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| 01:01.43 | Trell_ | still not up. |
| 01:01.43 | JoshBorke | Borked|Raider: don't download it yet |
| 01:01.45 | Balstor | in fact there is a tattle option for thst |
| 01:01.49 | Borked|Raider | kk |
| 01:01.52 | Trell_ | but the forums are 'undergoing maintenance' |
| 01:02.04 | Trell_ | so I'd guess they're implementing it all now |
| 01:02.08 | Trell_ | *crosses fingers* |
| 01:02.29 | Balstor | JoshBorke check for a tattle setting |
| 01:02.38 | Gnarfoz | lol oh my god xD |
| 01:03.11 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure it's been posted several times int he last few hours, but all the drama for nothing... "- When you inspect another player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment." -- 2.3 patch notes xD |
| 01:03.30 | Ellipsis | yeah yeah |
| 01:03.56 | Balstor | yhea now you can tell how bad the pugs in your heroics are |
| 01:04.05 | Ellipsis | or non-heroics, for some of us >_> |
| 01:04.18 | Gnarfoz | I've been doing that via the armory for ages now, it's just an alt-tab away anyway |
| 01:04.42 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 01:04.52 | Gnarfoz | corpse tooltips show corpse loot owner |
| 01:04.56 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 01:04.58 | JoshBorke | tattle is part of ora? |
| 01:04.58 | Gnarfoz | yay? WTB 2 years ago in MC |
| 01:04.59 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 01:05.02 | Ellipsis | a lot of nice interface changes |
| 01:05.02 | Gnarfoz | JoshBorke: no |
| 01:05.12 | JoshBorke | ora is what is changing my chat messages |
| 01:05.16 | Ellipsis | how do you know? |
| 01:05.26 | JoshBorke | because it only happens with ora turned on |
| 01:05.29 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 01:05.33 | Ellipsis | that seems...odd |
| 01:05.39 | Ellipsis | I've never heard of anything in oRA that would do that |
| 01:05.52 | JoshBorke | me neither |
| 01:06.12 | Gnarfoz | also |
| 01:06.19 | Arrowmaster | there isnt anything in ora that does that |
| 01:06.22 | Gnarfoz | class colored player names in many places! |
| 01:06.46 | Gnarfoz | yay blizzard, welcome to years ago :D... still liking it, they're on the right course ;) |
| 01:07.43 | JoshBorke | i use mumble to color my names by class |
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| 01:09.31 | Xelopheris | I loved leaving loot on my hounds :) |
| 01:09.34 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: there's something, perhaps it's some weird interaction between mods. but when i disable ora it goes away. when i enable ora, it comes back |
| 01:10.41 | Trell_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.51 | Trell_ | zomg, i waited up for nothing >_< should've known. |
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| 01:12.30 | Balstor | anyone know how mutch armour is on the shield(as a mob) oin kael?? |
| 01:14.55 | Borked|Raider | Anyone who have made a addon that can be used for inspecting and then it print (somepalce, maybe in party) the sum of a stat, stam or resillience etc? |
| 01:15.10 | Arrowmaster | Balstor: probably 30% |
| 01:15.14 | Ellipsis | there are addons that show it in the inspect window, Borked|Raider |
| 01:15.25 | Arrowmaster | since afaik no mobs have more than 30% in raids |
| 01:15.26 | Borked|Raider | Ellipsis, i dont need that fancy stuff |
| 01:15.54 | Borked|Raider | Ellipsis, just need a macro that inspect and return in party the ammount of stam/res etc |
| 01:16.01 | Ellipsis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.02 | Borked|Raider | and if it wasent made i would make one my self |
| 01:16.11 | Borked|Raider | well a macro that calls the function |
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| 01:18.36 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc * r51732 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatBuffsData.lua: |
| 01:18.36 | CIA-12 | Threat-1.0: |
| 01:18.37 | CIA-12 | - Added 5% permanent threat reduction upon gaining Pain Suppression based on |
| 01:18.37 | CIA-12 | speculation as to the nature of it in 2.3 Code only active with WoW 2.3 or |
| 01:18.37 | CIA-12 | better. Will change if the mechanic appears to be different under testing. |
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| 01:29.19 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, the cannot-see-each-other's-threat bug still exists, although i still cannot offer any reasons why it does T_T |
| 01:31.12 | Ellipsis | because you touch yourself at night |
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| 01:31.13 | rob` | wait what, pain suppression's 5% threat reduction is permanent? |
| 01:31.14 | rob` | hm |
| 01:31.38 | rob` | I think I can live with that as a tank >_< but I'll yell if there wasn't a damn good reason for it to be put on |
| 01:31.42 | Xinhuan | oh well |
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| 01:36.11 | CIA-12 | 03quagmire * r51733 10nQuestLog/core.lua: |
| 01:36.11 | CIA-12 | nQuestLog: |
| 01:36.11 | CIA-12 | - Removed workaround for errors when disabling/enabling nQuestLog due to complaints about BugSack showing warnings (/sigh) |
| 01:39.07 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r51734 10LittleWigs/ (Auchindoun/Maladaar.lua HellfireCitadel/Broggok.lua): LittleWigs: deDE updates |
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| 01:43.41 | kadrahil | Misdirection: This spell will now always be removed correctly if multiple Hunters overwrite each other's Misdirection. |
| 01:44.04 | kadrahil | does that mean if they cast misdirection on the same party member? |
| 01:44.44 | Xinhuan | assumably so |
| 01:45.11 | kadrahil | so wow is crashing on curator every single evocate |
| 01:45.19 | kadrahil | and every single time moroes vanished |
| 01:45.43 | kadrahil | i thought it was omen, but i downgraded and it's still there |
| 01:45.55 | Borked|Raider | "Can Druids leave a form while stunned?" blue post after "yes" they sure got time for the good questions :D |
| 01:46.23 | Borked|Raider | anyone up for slapping me when ptr gets up or updated info about it DD |
| 01:46.28 | Ellipsis | kadrahil: does it still crash if you're not running Omen at all? |
| 01:47.04 | Tinyboom | PTR patches are up;) |
| 01:47.25 | kadrahil | Ellipsis: testing |
| 01:47.49 | kadrahil | my gf is having the same issues fighting curator so i had her disable omen for a second |
| 01:48.06 | Borked|Raider | 03:43 <Tinyboom> PTR patches are up;) for real? |
| 01:48.08 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r51735 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Added the 5 new uncommon gems in patch 2.2. Updated icon textures for Purified Jaggal and Shadow Pearls. |
| 01:48.56 | kadrahil | so it's not omen |
| 01:49.01 | kadrahil | crashed at an evocate without omen installed |
| 01:49.07 | Tinyboom | Borked|Raider: aye, just downloaded it;) not sure if PTR's are up still though:) |
| 01:49.25 | Tinyboom | WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enGB-downloader.exe |
| 01:49.27 | Borked|Raider | Tinyboom, sure you not just dl the old one? |
| 01:49.29 | Borked|Raider | k |
| 01:49.30 | Borked|Raider | tx |
| 01:49.32 | Tinyboom | hehe |
| 01:49.36 | kadrahil | so i'm wondering if it's bigwigs |
| 01:50.39 | Tinyboom | PTR patch is 146Mb :) |
| 01:50.44 | kadrahil | O_o |
| 01:50.49 | kadrahil | checking it out now |
| 01:51.00 | kadrahil | crap, should've copied my toon over |
| 01:51.29 | Borked|Raider | character copy not working tho |
| 01:51.30 | durcyn | character copy page is basically unuseable with the amount of traffic it's getting |
| 01:51.34 | kadrahil | ah |
| 01:51.37 | Tinyboom | kadrahil: wouldn't have helped as it was not enabled yet... |
| 01:51.58 | Trell_ | mmm speeding through the download ;) |
| 01:51.59 | kadrahil | Not Found |
| 01:51.59 | kadrahil | The requested URL /downloads/clients/mac/WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enUS-downloader.dmg was not found on this server. |
| 01:51.59 | kadrahil | fail |
| 01:52.01 | Borked|Raider | have anyone got there char copyed? |
| 01:52.16 | Trell_ | kadrahil - got that loads, finally someone rapidshare'd the file. |
| 01:52.20 | Tinyboom | Borked|Raider: trying:p |
| 01:52.34 | Balstor | must have picture of new engineering mounts |
| 01:52.49 | Trell_ | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enGB-downloader.exe - its the enGB one though, not sure if thats any good to you. |
| 01:52.53 | hyperChipmunk | i'm betting gyrocopter, biplane |
| 01:53.03 | Trell_ | oops |
| 01:53.07 | Tinyboom | hehe |
| 01:53.11 | Xinhuan | can't you just rename enGB to enUS in that link? :) |
| 01:53.14 | Trell_ | http://rapidshare.com/files/61941448/WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enGB-downloader.exe |
| 01:53.15 | kadrahil | Trell_: do you have a link? |
| 01:53.19 | kadrahil | for the mac one... |
| 01:53.24 | Trell_ | erm no, im afraid |
| 01:53.34 | Ellipsis | yeah, we're all afraid of mac users |
| 01:53.38 | kadrahil | :( |
| 01:53.40 | Trell_ | i kept getting file not found when trying to dl from the 'official' page |
| 01:53.49 | Trell_ | so got someone to rapidshare the one they downloaded |
| 01:53.54 | aestil | the PTR patch is 133 MB |
| 01:54.00 | aestil | who's getting 146? |
| 01:54.16 | Trell_ | me |
| 01:54.23 | durcyn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/mac/ptr-downloader-enUS.html |
| 01:54.34 | durcyn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/mac/WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enUS-downloader.dmg |
| 01:54.39 | aestil | enUS PC download? |
| 01:54.42 | Trell_ | however, character copying just is NOT happening. |
| 01:54.49 | durcyn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enUS-downloader.exe |
| 01:54.53 | aestil | cause i'm looking at my downloader, and its 133 MB |
| 01:54.58 | Xinhuan | it won't happen until the PTR servers actually go up |
| 01:55.02 | Xinhuan | so why rush? :) |
| 01:55.17 | durcyn | because there are actual peers on the torrents right now |
| 01:55.22 | durcyn | total download time was about two minutes for me |
| 01:56.52 | Kody- | EU download is probably more to support the voiceovers in different languages |
| 01:57.26 | Borked|Raider | the size of the patch is 153.498.660 bytes |
| 01:57.38 | Arrowmaster | EU patches are always larger than US |
| 01:57.58 | Borked|Raider | =146mb |
| 01:58.15 | Borked|Raider | not 133 atleast |
| 01:58.31 | Tinyboom | eu ptr server isn't up at least... :( |
| 01:59.20 | Bruners | is there a calulator addon? |
| 01:59.34 | Xinhuan | what kind of calculator? |
| 01:59.40 | Xinhuan | talent? equipment? |
| 01:59.47 | Bruners | regular numbers |
| 01:59.51 | Xinhuan | just use /print |
| 01:59.55 | Xinhuan | /print 2+2 |
| 01:59.58 | Bruners | ohh |
| 02:00.07 | Xinhuan | part of Ace2 |
| 02:00.27 | Xinhuan | can /print just about any valid LUA statement |
| 02:00.36 | Bruners | cool |
| 02:00.58 | rubik | someone post the torent yet? for enUS? |
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| 02:01.56 | kadrahil | ok, apparently there is a problem with the latest bigwigs |
| 02:02.10 | kadrahil | during curator wow would crash whenever there's an evocate |
| 02:02.10 | Borked|Raider | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enGB.html |
| 02:02.24 | kadrahil | removing omen didn't fix it, but removing bigwigs and switching back to DBM did... |
| 02:02.44 | Borked|Raider | is omen still able to get values from ktm? |
| 02:02.56 | kadrahil | i assume so |
| 02:03.54 | Arrowmaster | bigwigs is? wtf |
| 02:04.00 | Arrowmaster | check framexml.og |
| 02:04.04 | Arrowmaster | check framexml.log |
| 02:04.20 | Ellipsis | Borked|Raider: yes, Omen displays data from KTM users by default |
| 02:04.33 | Ellipsis | it will show their name with a * |
| 02:04.44 | Borked|Raider | k |
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| 02:07.34 | rubik | whee.. got the enUS torrent now |
| 02:07.57 | Ellipsis | how can you people survive being so impatient? |
| 02:08.01 | rubik | uploaded it here if anyone needs it: http://www.speedfile.org/222391 |
| 02:08.28 | rubik | WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enUS-downloader.torrent, that is |
| 02:09.26 | dodga | wtf |
| 02:09.34 | dodga | I downloaded the client via the downloader |
| 02:09.37 | dodga | but there is no file |
| 02:09.40 | dodga | oooookay |
| 02:09.52 | Ellipsis | ~fail Blizz |
| 02:09.53 | purl | Blizz: Fail. |
| 02:10.01 | Arrowmaster | it does that if you dont put the downloader in the wow dir sometimes |
| 02:10.10 | Arrowmaster | well it downloads it but you dont know where the fuck it went |
| 02:10.12 | dodga | yeah but no it checks the file |
| 02:10.44 | dodga | man i hate blizz for doing such crappy software |
| 02:10.55 | Ellipsis | no wai |
| 02:10.56 | rubik | whoa.. the torrent is already done.. that was fast. |
| 02:11.00 | dodga | what about a message "hey your file is now in <directory>" |
| 02:11.15 | dodga | as if retards developed their installers |
| 02:11.35 | rubik | you're talking about the same "downloaders" that use 100% of your upstream for p2p |
| 02:11.39 | dodga | Yeah |
| 02:11.54 | Tinyboom | rubik: l2netlimiter^^ |
| 02:11.57 | dodga | Interesting how they are fixing low levels zones, yet fail to cap upstream |
| 02:12.04 | Megalon | doesn't the downloader start the installer when it finished downloading |
| 02:12.10 | rubik | no need... i extract the torrent each time and use a real BT client |
| 02:12.18 | rubik | on which i limit my upstream |
| 02:12.22 | Tinyboom | hehe |
| 02:12.23 | dodga | Megalon: Mine didn't... |
| 02:13.39 | Megalon | mhm :o |
| 02:15.26 | Arrowmaster | i think it only does if you start the downloader from the wow dir |
| 02:18.15 | NightHawkTheSane | !c us Laughing Skull Keribdis |
| 02:18.18 | ThraeBot | NightHawkTheSane: Keribdis, Level 70 Troll Shaman (11/0/50). 6789 HP; 8528 Mana; 145 mana regen; 47 mp5; 8088 Armour; 4.28% melee crit; 318 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 793 +spell dmg/heal; 43 nature dmg (836); 4.32% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 1014 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23gb2s ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vqy7r ][ Updated: Thu Oct 11 22:20:01 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:18.38 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 02:22.32 | Thelyna | !c us Dragonblight Thelyna |
| 02:22.34 | ThraeBot | Thelyna: Thelyna, Level 70 Human Paladin (41/20/0). 12137 HP; 4443 Mana; 86 mana regen; 14736 Armour; 79.100 Melee DPS; 4.33% melee crit; 29 melee hit; 8 spell hit; 228 +spell dmg/heal; 347 defense; 21.18% dodge; 16.67% block;[[ TBR: 776 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b5zdw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36f8zv ][ Updated: Thu Oct 11 22:24:18 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:22.42 | Thelyna | heh oops, my tanking gear |
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| 02:27.44 | Borked|Raider | !c eu Ravencrest Superraider |
| 02:27.48 | ThraeBot | Borked|Raider: Superraider, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (41/20/0). 8924 HP; +10 Energy; 3804 Armour; 1848 AP; 406.500 Melee DPS; 28.98% melee crit; 298 melee hit; 30.91% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 999 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2lk7eh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2xcvaq ][ Updated: Thu Oct 11 22:29:30 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:28.08 | Trell_ | kind of puts me to shame |
| 02:28.12 | Trell_ | where are you in progression? |
| 02:28.59 | Borked|Raider | !c eu Ravencrest Fs |
| 02:29.02 | ThraeBot | Borked|Raider: Fs, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 10394 HP; 6455 Mana; 122 mana regen; 5956 Armour; 1352 AP; 183.900 Melee DPS; 31.73% melee crit; 90 melee hit; 43.21% dodge; 33 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1026 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrdwtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mnnya ][ Updated: Thu Oct 11 22:30:46 2007 EST ]] |
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| 02:29.42 | Trell_ | !c eu draenor Trell |
| 02:29.44 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Trell, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (41/20/0). 9134 HP; +10 Energy; 1562 AP; 360.300 Melee DPS; 23.73% melee crit; 254 melee hit; 18.81% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1416 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo53k9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qh7qg ][ Updated: Thu Oct 11 22:31:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:30.05 | Borked|Raider | i beat ya |
| 02:30.23 | Trell_ | thats why I asked where you were in progression |
| 02:30.30 | Borked|Raider | ahh |
| 02:30.34 | Borked|Raider | we done :D |
| 02:30.54 | Borked|Raider | farming bt/hyjal |
| 02:30.56 | Trell_ | oh, that would be why then. I'm @ Al'Ar and Hydross still :( |
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| 02:37.10 | Kaydeethree | New PTR client available! current build: 0.3.0.7382. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/2.2.3.7359-0.3.0.7382.diff |
| 02:37.50 | Bejitt | Tekkub: notice anything odd here? http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Babble-Boss-3.0&action=history |
| 02:38.15 | Tekkub | Abug? |
| 02:38.16 | Tekkub | no |
| 02:38.30 | Bejitt | (Babble-2.2 moved to Babble-Boss-3.0) |
| 02:38.36 | Tekkub | okey and? |
| 02:38.40 | Bejitt | wtf? |
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| 02:38.57 | Bejitt | why >_> |
| 02:38.59 | Tekkub | why are you asking me? it's not my lib not my API docs |
| 02:39.05 | Bejitt | bah |
| 02:39.12 | Bejitt | b/c you can revert... n/m |
| 02:39.14 | Tekkub | ask the person that moved it |
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| 02:44.36 | Trell_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/engineemount.jpg |
| 02:44.38 | Trell_ | imba |
| 02:45.20 | Trell_ | and http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/bearmount.jpg, i want one of them |
| 02:47.00 | Wobin_ | Is that really it? |
| 02:47.25 | Ellipsis | IMO that bear mount shouldn't be usable by druids |
| 02:48.22 | Ellipsis | unless Blizz also lets us tame kitty druids as pets, and use a saddle on bear druids to ride them ^-^ |
| 02:49.25 | Wobin_ | can you imagine riding the waterform? |
| 02:50.18 | Ellipsis | hahaha |
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| 02:51.24 | Wobin_ | Vendor Discounts: All vendors with an associate faction now give discounts at all levels above neutral. |
| 02:51.25 | nogudnik | Question: is Jira the replacement for Trac, or is it still in the evaluation phase? |
| 02:51.29 | Wobin_ | finally, a reason to have exalted |
| 02:51.35 | Wobin_ | It's the replacement |
| 02:52.17 | nogudnik | *sweet*, now I just have to get my project added. |
| 02:53.58 | NivFreak | GG blizzard |
| 02:54.03 | NivFreak | way to screw up fury |
| 02:54.14 | NivFreak | clearly deathwish is an arms talent! |
| 02:54.25 | NivFreak | and fury really needed a disarm reduction! |
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| 02:55.43 | fitz__ | does anyone happen to know what event, if any, is fired when a guild member comes online, and is it fired even if the guildMemberNotify cvar is disabled? |
| 02:55.51 | Bejitt | on the bright side... WW and ImpZerker buffed |
| 02:57.02 | NivFreak | yea |
| 02:57.06 | NivFreak | but deathwish was hot |
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| 02:57.31 | NivFreak | they should have just moved enrage instead ;) |
| 02:57.43 | Bejitt | hah |
| 02:57.45 | NivFreak | sounds like a better pvp talent to me! |
| 02:57.54 | Bejitt | maybe not w/ resil tho |
| 02:58.04 | Codayus | *shrug* Good change IMHO. :-) |
| 02:58.15 | NivFreak | but seriously though |
| 02:58.19 | Bejitt | yea i'm gonna love the threat reduction |
| 02:58.24 | NivFreak | why the hell does fury need disarm talents... |
| 02:58.29 | Bejitt | might not need anymore soulstones now ;( |
| 02:58.30 | NivFreak | the threat reduction is great |
| 02:58.33 | NivFreak | the WW change sounds fun |
| 02:58.36 | Megalon | on crit talents procc on noncrits with resilence |
| 02:58.44 | NivFreak | Megalon: yep |
| 02:58.48 | Megalon | so enrage is |
| 02:58.50 | fitz__ | having a fury warrior tank brings back fond memories of keeping the Lt. General alive for the Rajaxx event |
| 02:58.51 | Megalon | pretty pvp |
| 02:58.51 | Megalon | :C |
| 02:59.10 | Bejitt | ..tank? :X |
| 02:59.15 | Megalon | in raids you don't want to procc enrage :P |
| 02:59.17 | NivFreak | I'm actually considering respecing to fury/prot hybrid |
| 02:59.20 | NivFreak | after 2.3 |
| 02:59.34 | NivFreak | if the threat buff is large to bloodthirst |
| 02:59.35 | Megalon | vengeance gives weapon expertise |
| 02:59.41 | Megalon | could be nice |
| 02:59.57 | Kerafyrm | shall we open a pool on when 2.3 will go live? |
| 02:59.59 | NivFreak | I'm going to try it out on the PTR |
| 03:00.01 | NivFreak | well |
| 03:00.06 | NivFreak | I'd guess 5-6 weeks |
| 03:00.12 | Kerafyrm | really that long? |
| 03:00.15 | NivFreak | yea |
| 03:00.18 | fitz__ | new dungeon to balance |
| 03:00.23 | Kerafyrm | mmm point |
| 03:00.29 | NivFreak | these are some seriously massive class/talent changes too |
| 03:00.45 | Megalon | ww finally hits with both weapons |
| 03:00.46 | Kerafyrm | i do hafta say... my thanks and respect goes out to you Ace guys.... tireless |
| 03:03.00 | Arrowmaster | 2 months at least since theres a new dungeon |
| 03:03.07 | ckknight | well, 2.3 has a lot of work already put into it |
| 03:03.13 | ckknight | granted, there is still a long testing time needed |
| 03:03.21 | ckknight | so my guess is 6 weeks to 2 monthts |
| 03:03.23 | ckknight | months* |
| 03:03.39 | NivFreak | 6 weeks sames like a safe bet |
| 03:03.41 | NivFreak | seems |
| 03:03.44 | ckknight | which means I should finish my big secret project before then |
| 03:03.52 | NivFreak | oh do tell |
| 03:04.07 | ckknight | secretz |
| 03:04.19 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:04.35 | durcyn | it's a barbie-themed art pack. |
| 03:04.50 | Kerafyrm | any idea if a mod could set a key(ie: right shift) as the focus target modifier for spell cast(light alt is for self-cast)? |
| 03:04.55 | ckknight | my secretz, they have been unleashed! |
| 03:05.03 | ckknight | bad, durcyn |
| 03:05.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:05.11 | Kerafyrm | light = like* |
| 03:10.27 | Ellipsis | Kerafyrm, there are addons that can do that...sorta |
| 03:10.43 | Ellipsis | I know there's one that can basically turn all your action buttons into macros |
| 03:10.55 | Ellipsis | and you could probably set that macro up to use a modifier for focus casting |
| 03:12.47 | vithos | Antiar1: we have a feral tank whose threat is wrong (very low) on 51618 |
| 03:13.30 | Arrowmaster | rofl now that was some fucking dps, hydross at 25% when the 5 min enrage warning poped |
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| 03:18.27 | CIA-12 | 03peragor * r51736 10GridStatusHealer/ (4 files): |
| 03:18.27 | CIA-12 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 03:18.27 | CIA-12 | - Doesn't seem to be creating a new zip. Fresh commit to force an update. |
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| 03:22.19 | Peragor | Anyone know what the autocreation of zip files might not be working for my addon? |
| 03:22.32 | Arrowmaster | it does it every 20 minutes |
| 03:22.40 | Arrowmaster | but the script takes a while to run |
| 03:22.49 | Arrowmaster | sometimes |
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| 03:23.10 | Arrowmaster | if its not making a zip for your addon then its not making zips for any addons |
| 03:23.26 | Peragor | Ok... I think I did an update yesterday and I still don't see it. But I will be patient. |
| 03:23.45 | NivFreak | blizzard's poor webservers |
| 03:24.43 | Arrowmaster | check http://files.wowace.com/latest.xml to see what time it last ran |
| 03:25.29 | Peragor | Thanks Arrow |
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| 03:28.59 | Wobin_ | hm, what time is it on the wowace server? |
| 03:29.17 | NightHawkTheSane | shirtless o'clock |
| 03:29.38 | Wobin_ | That's after Beer'n'hookers o'clock, isn't it? |
| 03:29.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, but beefore pantsless thirty |
| 03:29.54 | Wobin_ | right |
| 03:30.22 | NightHawkTheSane | oh,but you probably did both |
| 03:30.35 | Wobin_ | Well. |
| 03:30.48 | Wobin_ | Yes. |
| 03:30.55 | Wobin_ | I did adjust my clock |
| 03:31.00 | Wobin_ | and carefully avoid typos |
| 03:31.05 | Ellipsis | mmhm |
| 03:31.10 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
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| 03:42.59 | Balstor | Corpses that belong to someone in your party, but that you cannot loot will say in the corpse mouseover who has loot rights on that corpse. |
| 03:46.16 | Arrowmaster | ah damn |
| 03:46.55 | Arrowmaster | that means no more yelling "LOOT THE COREHOUNDS" in SSC |
| 03:47.08 | kebinusan | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 03:47.23 | Arrowmaster | which is funny since we never did that in MC since we used FFA then |
| 03:48.04 | kebinusan | yeah, its the ilidari marks that make me ML it |
| 03:48.17 | kebinusan | since dole them out for flasks instead of just letting random people get em |
| 03:48.44 | kebinusan | Im looking forward to the guild bank features |
| 03:48.52 | fitz__ | hell yeah |
| 03:48.55 | kebinusan | letting us set gold aside for people to use for repairs sounds interesting |
| 03:49.00 | fitz__ | any word yet on how much those banks cost? |
| 03:49.20 | kebinusan | fitz__: they are disabled until later in the testing phase |
| 03:49.21 | fitz__ | I don't really see the guild banks as useful for that -- who flies to a bank location before repairing mid-raid? |
| 03:49.24 | kebinusan | at least thast what the word was |
| 03:49.27 | fitz__ | kebinusan, what a pain :( |
| 03:49.30 | kebinusan | fitz__: no |
| 03:49.38 | kebinusan | vendors allow you to pay for repairs from the guild bank |
| 03:49.45 | fitz__ | oh right, ya, I remember that now |
| 03:49.49 | kebinusan | ou may use your Guild Bank withdraw limits to pay for item repairs (now enabled on all merchants) |
| 03:51.12 | kebinusan | it would be nice if once you started the char copy process it completed isntead of giving you server too busy messages |
| 03:52.29 | KarlThePagan | wow ... serious props to Cartographer in 2.3 imo |
| 03:52.35 | Silowyi | SO..... |
| 03:52.46 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: hrm? |
| 03:52.51 | Silowyi | does anyone have an addon that lets you watch for a specifid debuff on a target? |
| 03:53.15 | Balstor | my furry warrior got kicked in the ass by these changes |
| 03:53.19 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, minimap lets you search for - |
| 03:54.01 | KarlThePagan | treasure, repair, food & drink, ammo, reagents, innkeeper, flightmaster, stable master, battle master, class trainer, profession trainer, auctioneer, banker |
| 03:54.25 | Balstor | PVE furry warriors no longer get death wish, gee thanks blizzard, give me 2 feathers to use as weapons while your at it? |
| 03:54.36 | Kerafyrm | per the forums.. ptr may be up |
| 03:54.50 | Tinyboom | eu ptr is up, just tried:) |
| 03:54.57 | Tinyboom | though addons is a no go:p |
| 03:55.05 | Tinyboom | instant crash on login:p |
| 03:55.06 | Silowyi | My ptr client download says I need patch 2.2.2 :P |
| 03:55.12 | Silowyi | instead of 2.2.3 :P |
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| 03:56.14 | Kerafyrm | US PTRs are up |
| 03:56.17 | Kerafyrm | PvP and PvE |
| 03:57.00 | nekoh | EU as well, but charcopy isnt working yet for me :X |
| 03:59.38 | Kerafyrm | i've got a pending to the us PvP |
| 03:59.47 | Kerafyrm | but couldn't put one thru for PvE, errors at last step |
| 03:59.57 | Kerafyrm | and dosn't look like pre-made copies are up yet either |
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| 04:01.02 | Tinyboom | Kerafyrm: no premades for 2.3 |
| 04:01.04 | NightHawkTheSane | no premades |
| 04:01.11 | Kerafyrm | oh |
| 04:01.17 | Kerafyrm | missed that thread |
| 04:01.24 | Kerafyrm | what was reasoning for that? |
| 04:01.34 | Lukian | no premades is normal |
| 04:01.40 | Seerah | yep |
| 04:02.10 | Arrowmaster | fucker |
| 04:02.17 | Arrowmaster | lurker just dived on us at 0% |
| 04:02.24 | Kerafyrm | wow.. hasn't been that long since i was on ptr.. i got to check out voice chat, and there were pre-mades |
| 04:02.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah no premades for 2.3 |
| 04:02.40 | nekoh | i guess its because they want zul'aman to be tested by experienced players |
| 04:02.45 | Lukian | Kerafyrm, yeah that was an abnormal patch :p |
| 04:02.49 | Kerafyrm | gotcha |
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| 04:04.15 | Lukian | any mirrors for 2.3 enUS? |
| 04:05.20 | kebinusan | check the ptr forums |
| 04:05.26 | kebinusan | someone might have psoted mirrors there |
| 04:05.56 | fitz__ | apparently there's a flght path NPC outside of Zul'Aman |
| 04:05.58 | fitz__ | wonder how that works |
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| 04:07.09 | fitz__ | http://files.filefront.com/WoW+2237359+to+0307hexe/;8776306;/fileinfo.html |
| 04:07.32 | fitz__ | as always, distrust the hell out of it, download the downloader and have that do a checksum verify and launch the patch executable |
| 04:13.08 | Lukian | on the upside, the poster is a) a wow player and b) the file size is correct :) |
| 04:21.17 | Kody- | http://news.curse.com/details/3352/ |
| 04:21.22 | Kody- | new idols/librams/totems |
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| 04:23.41 | Kerafyrm | *drums finger waiting for copy* |
| 04:24.59 | Codayus | Oooh. -20 to the cost of chain heal. |
| 04:25.06 | Megalon | It seems that there is an undocumented new skill for hunters : Disarming Shot. |
| 04:25.13 | Megalon | is that right? :c |
| 04:25.32 | Bejitt | can someone point me to a good example of using SecureHook? |
| 04:25.40 | Kerafyrm | not in notes |
| 04:25.43 | Bejitt | er, AceHook's SecureHook |
| 04:25.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Megalon: it could just be an npc ability |
| 04:25.45 | Kerafyrm | looks like Megalon |
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| 04:32.40 | Killmore | anyone have info about the new caster meta ? |
| 04:35.16 | Kody- | http://news.curse.com/details/3352/ - New PvP trinkets added |
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| 04:36.08 | Megalon | those items are already all on mmo-champion.com 10 huge pics of items ;D |
| 04:36.55 | Megalon | giev itemz :< |
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| 04:41.56 | fitz__ | megalon, but mmo-champ is down |
| 04:42.01 | fitz__ | as is wowhead |
| 04:42.26 | Lukian | lol error 132 on quitting the PTR |
| 04:45.30 | Megalon | fitz__: you broke it, last time i looked it worked! |
| 04:45.47 | fitz__ | curse should pay me for this service |
| 04:45.52 | fitz__ | Id visit thottbot, if it were still relevant |
| 05:00.44 | Killmore | crappy items :( |
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| 05:04.45 | RogueShadow | ckknight, secret project huh. Saw that coming miles away. |
| 05:04.57 | ckknight | the barbie theme? |
| 05:05.09 | RogueShadow | No, I haven't discovered it yet. |
| 05:05.18 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:05.25 | RogueShadow | But you have been rather quiet lately. And I havne't been seeing commits to warrent that kind of work |
| 05:05.31 | Ellipsis | but ckknight, you said it was going to be my little pony =[ |
| 05:05.34 | RogueShadow | and we all know you don't play WoW just to grind |
| 05:06.14 | ckknight | RogueShadow: been working on it quite a bit recently :-P |
| 05:09.16 | Borked|Raider | char copying still not working? |
| 05:09.29 | fitz__ | I copied to PvP successfully, but not PvE |
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| 05:10.02 | Lukian | PTR's are offline currently |
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| 05:12.13 | Kody- | pvp hawkstrider added :O |
| 05:12.58 | Bruners | is autobar broken now ? |
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| 05:13.33 | vithos | it is for me |
| 05:14.04 | Bejitt | nah, more like.. between working phases |
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| 05:30.19 | Ellipsis | ~whaleparry |
| 05:30.22 | Ellipsis | ~whaleparry Fisker- |
| 05:30.23 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Fisker-'s attacks. |
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| 05:46.44 | xyu | . |
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| 05:49.16 | xyu | How would i add a modifier so that if i hold ctrl-v it will cast sheep on my focus if it exists,not dead, and just v would sheep my target? |
| 05:49.41 | xyu | /focus [target=focus, noexists] [target=focus, dead] [target=focus, help] |
| 05:49.41 | xyu | /stopmacro [target=focus, noexists] |
| 05:49.41 | xyu | /cast [target=focus] Polymorph |
| 05:49.45 | xyu | that's the only thing i know |
| 05:52.46 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | That should sheep your target, unless your focus exists, is not dead, and you have ctrlheld down |
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| 05:53.38 | xyu | will it sheep my target if a focus exists but i do not have ctrl down? |
| 05:53.45 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 05:53.48 | xyu | oki thanks |
| 05:55.10 | xyu | so everything before the semicolon is controlled by the things in brackets, if those conditions aren't there then everything before the semicolon is ignored, leaving only /cast polymorph? |
| 05:55.13 | xyu | is that how that works? |
| 05:55.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah. |
| 05:55.29 | xyu | neato kk |
| 05:55.41 | NightHawkTheSane | You could actually have other spells with other conditionals in brackets as well. |
| 05:56.05 | NightHawkTheSane | like /cast [some condition] Polymorph; [some other condition] Arcane Intellect; Blink |
| 05:56.19 | NightHawkTheSane | It'll cast the first one who's condition is met |
| 05:56.43 | Ellipsis | we still need [target=yourmom] though =[ |
| 05:56.57 | NightHawkTheSane | targeting your mom is implied, Ellipsis |
| 05:56.58 | xyu | ah ok, that might be useful for like arcane mages doing the AB cycle stuff |
| 05:57.16 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSane: no u |
| 05:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't find macros great for casting sequences, but that's just me *shrug* |
| 05:57.55 | Comxx | 11•12ckknight11• you here ? |
| 05:58.16 | Comxx | sorry =( |
| 05:58.31 | ckknight | no colors |
| 05:58.36 | NightHawkTheSane | goddammit, where's a druid trainer in mooonglade. >< |
| 05:58.44 | hyperChipmunk | meh eyes |
| 05:58.52 | hyperChipmunk | he's up in the city |
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| 05:59.08 | hyperChipmunk | kinda in the middle and thatwayish-> |
| 06:00.01 | Comxx | ckknight is ok if i updaye the .toc Interface on some of you mods like FuBar_LocationFu |
| 06:00.11 | Comxx | update* |
| 06:00.18 | ckknight | only if you want to be a #1 pimp |
| 06:00.43 | Comxx | k i will do it then =) |
| 06:01.54 | CIA-12 | 03adirelle * r51737 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: bugfix of funny announce option (drycoded). |
| 06:03.28 | CIA-12 | 03adirelle * r51738 10QuietCast/ (QuietCast.lua QuietCast.toc): |
| 06:03.28 | CIA-12 | QuietCast: |
| 06:03.29 | CIA-12 | - bumped TOC interface to 20200. |
| 06:03.29 | CIA-12 | - fixed CVar name. |
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| 06:06.24 | CIA-12 | 03comxx * r51739 10FuBar_LocationFu/FuBar_LocationFu.toc: |
| 06:06.24 | CIA-12 | FuBar_LocationFu: |
| 06:06.24 | CIA-12 | - Updated .Toc for 2.2 |
| 06:08.11 | Bruners | i feel so naked without autobar |
| 06:09.25 | neenee | I went away from it too, I just use macros if I need to automate things a bit more now :) |
| 06:12.25 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51740 10Skillet/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:12.25 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 06:12.26 | CIA-12 | - Cleanup start/stop/clear queue buttons |
| 06:12.26 | CIA-12 | - Fixed shopping list when showing reagent used by more than one recipe |
| 06:12.26 | CIA-12 | - Added transparency option |
| 06:12.26 | CIA-12 | - Possible bug fix for enchanting cooldowns |
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| 06:13.28 | Sole | well shit |
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| 06:13.42 | Sole | I saved a multisession comp from nero and now when I try to add to that it just starts bitching |
| 06:13.55 | Sole | and says the disc in the drive isnt the one which has the comp on it |
| 06:14.21 | pakoz | anyone know the /script for accepting a res? |
| 06:16.06 | hyperChipmunk | AcceptResurrect |
| 06:16.11 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.17 | Sole | Accept* |
| 06:16.20 | hyperChipmunk | /script AcceptResurrect() |
| 06:17.17 | CIA-12 | 03comxx * r51741 10FuBar_ClockFu/FuBar_ClockFu.toc: |
| 06:17.17 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ClockFu: |
| 06:17.17 | CIA-12 | - Updated .Toc for 2.2 patch |
| 06:19.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I need to find a good way to live without autobar. >.> |
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| 06:20.25 | xyu | pt3bar |
| 06:20.39 | Comxx | go back to the old autobar |
| 06:21.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Comxx: i have. *shrug* |
| 06:21.50 | NightHawkTheSane | pt3bar doesn't do what I want it to. |
| 06:22.13 | CIA-12 | 03comxx * r51742 10FuBar_HonorFu/FuBar_HonorFu.toc: |
| 06:22.13 | CIA-12 | FuBar_HonorFu: |
| 06:22.13 | CIA-12 | - Updated .Toc for 2.2 patch |
| 06:22.29 | Grum | who/what broke autobar? :) |
| 06:22.48 | NightHawkTheSane | its not broken, its had some major changes made to it |
| 06:23.26 | Comxx | and the Changes are still in beta |
| 06:23.54 | Grum | GRRR |
| 06:24.01 | Grum | L2USESVN .. nubdevver |
| 06:24.10 | Grum | you make major changes in a *BRANCH* .. sigh |
| 06:24.23 | Grum | then when finished .. merge O.o |
| 06:24.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Grum: er.. |
| 06:24.29 | NightHawkTheSane | no? |
| 06:24.34 | Grum | yes? |
| 06:24.36 | NightHawkTheSane | major development is done in trunk |
| 06:24.42 | Grum | lol |
| 06:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | branch is for minor updates to released code |
| 06:24.49 | Grum | lol |
| 06:24.54 | Grum | so what is the stable version then? |
| 06:24.58 | NightHawkTheSane | tags |
| 06:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 06:25.00 | Comxx | lol |
| 06:25.03 | Grum | exactly - should always be trunk |
| 06:25.06 | NightHawkTheSane | no. |
| 06:25.16 | Grum | especially here on wowace where people actually *download* trunk |
| 06:25.25 | CIA-12 | 03comxx * r51743 10FuBar_VolumeFu/FuBar_VolumeFu.toc: |
| 06:25.25 | CIA-12 | FuBar_VolumeFu: |
| 06:25.25 | CIA-12 | - Updated .Toc for 2.2 patch |
| 06:25.29 | NightHawkTheSane | that's a poor design to begin with. |
| 06:25.47 | Grum | you dont do 'main development' in trunk that is stupid |
| 06:25.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ... dude. |
| 06:26.07 | NightHawkTheSane | EVERY Major organization/company that uses svn does main development in the trunk branch |
| 06:26.18 | Grum | ah ... |
| 06:26.20 | Grum | not really |
| 06:26.20 | NightHawkTheSane | then "branches" is used for implementing bug fixees for point releases. |
| 06:26.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, really |
| 06:26.41 | ckknight | actually, NightHawkTheSane's pretty much right on this one |
| 06:26.42 | Grum | ah is RIPE.net a 'major organization/company in your ears' ? |
| 06:26.52 | ckknight | well, arguably |
| 06:26.55 | Grum | its *STUPID* to break trunk for whatever reason |
| 06:26.59 | Grum | seriously stupid |
| 06:27.13 | Grum | tags should be used for 'back references' - this was a 'status at time X' |
| 06:27.18 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, you're way off. |
| 06:27.22 | Grum | lol |
| 06:27.26 | Grum | then the world is moronic |
| 06:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | no, you are |
| 06:27.59 | Grum | there is no valid reason to say 'trunk should be the main place of dev' |
| 06:28.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Sure there is, it's because it's TRUNK. the MAIN body of code. it's where MAIN development should take place. |
| 06:28.39 | Grum | ah .. do also do bugfixes in there? |
| 06:28.45 | Grum | as it is still the main place to do stuff |
| 06:28.50 | Grum | lets also start a rewrite in there |
| 06:28.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Depends on the release the bug fix is scheduled for, really |
| 06:29.06 | Grum | scheduled? who cares, trunk can be broken |
| 06:29.11 | CIA-12 | 03comxx * r51744 10FuTextures/FuTextures.toc: |
| 06:29.11 | CIA-12 | FuTextures: |
| 06:29.12 | CIA-12 | - Update .toc for 2.2 patch |
| 06:29.12 | NightHawkTheSane | But ultimately all bug fixes would need to be merged back to trunk inevitably. |
| 06:29.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Grum: dude, take a class in software engineering. This shit is pretty much first or second year stuff they teach in college. :P |
| 06:29.53 | Grum | but why do them in branches? |
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| 06:30.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Because if you've released code, and need to make bug fixes on it, you don't want to release any changes you've made to the trunk for future releases. |
| 06:30.20 | Grum | NightHawkTheSane: i work on big projects all the time and seriously, if you would even consider pushing ANYTHING to trunk that is not fully working and tested i'll personally rip your head off |
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| 06:30.34 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 06:30.36 | NightHawkTheSane | So when you release, you also form a branch in "branches", and do bug fixes for that release there, merging them back to trunk |
| 06:30.39 | Wobin_ | What are we arguing here? |
| 06:30.40 | Grum | that is so CVS (like 1997 orso) |
| 06:30.43 | Wobin_ | <.< |
| 06:30.44 | Wobin_ | >.> |
| 06:30.50 | Grum | NightHawkTheSane: indeed |
| 06:30.56 | Wobin_ | Are we arguing? |
| 06:30.58 | Grum | any change to the code is a branch, period |
| 06:31.01 | Wobin_ | I'm so confused =P |
| 06:31.04 | NightHawkTheSane | no. |
| 06:31.06 | Grum | yes |
| 06:31.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: no, grum's being an idiot. |
| 06:31.13 | Wobin_ | That cleared things up =P |
| 06:31.14 | Grum | hehe |
| 06:31.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Grum: meh, it's late, i have to get up to work tomorrow. You're not only wrong, but you're an idiot as well. Good night. |
| 06:31.29 | Megalon | so we argue on grum's idiotism? |
| 06:31.31 | Grum | give me one advantage of a big change directly in trunk |
| 06:31.32 | Comxx | well ckknight that it for now till i find more |
| 06:31.39 | ckknight | *thumbs up*, Comxx |
| 06:31.45 | Grum | i can give you at least 3 that make it a stupid thing to do |
| 06:31.56 | Wobin_ | Grum: Depends on what you use Trunk for |
| 06:32.11 | Grum | not really |
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| 06:32.44 | RogueShadow | Always depends. What doesn't? |
| 06:32.47 | Wobin_ | Well, if you misuse trunk like wowace does, you could conceivably state that a big change is good caues it allows people to test it =) |
| 06:32.58 | Wobin_ | It's not necessarily a -smart- excuse |
| 06:33.02 | Wobin_ | but it's a reason |
| 06:33.20 | Wobin_ | and to a certain degree, it's an advantage |
| 06:33.32 | Grum | server clueless users broken code |
| 06:33.42 | Wobin_ | RogueShadow: Always depends? Only if you have bladder problems =\ |
| 06:33.47 | Grum | making people manually download an arbitrarely older version to get something working again |
| 06:33.51 | ckknight | lol, Wobin_ |
| 06:34.03 | ragingdem | anyone saw insane warriors video? |
| 06:34.06 | Grum | no give me another argument why it is a good idea |
| 06:34.12 | Grum | *now |
| 06:34.12 | Wobin_ | Oh |
| 06:34.14 | Wobin_ | a good idea |
| 06:34.19 | Wobin_ | that's a different discussion =P |
| 06:34.20 | Grum | because seriously, i can rip all of those reasons apart |
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| 06:34.34 | Grum | there is no way in the world doing main dev in trunk > doing it in branches |
| 06:34.40 | ckknight | you know what's a good idea? caturday |
| 06:34.41 | Wobin_ | Agreed |
| 06:34.47 | ckknight | glad you agree, Wobin_ |
| 06:34.50 | Wobin_ | every day is Caturday |
| 06:34.59 | ckknight | especially Caturday, though |
| 06:35.04 | Wobin_ | But, yes, Grum, Agreed also =P |
| 06:35.20 | ckknight | Grum: more people test if it's in trunk |
| 06:35.29 | Grum | THAT IS NOT TESTING |
| 06:35.31 | Grum | geeeez |
| 06:35.35 | Wobin_ | That's a usability issue =P |
| 06:35.39 | Megalon | THIS IS SPARTAAAAAA |
| 06:35.41 | Wobin_ | It's not testing =P |
| 06:35.43 | Megalon | scnr |
| 06:35.45 | ckknight | and since WoW lacks a _good_ way to test code, it's the best some of us have |
| 06:36.00 | Grum | it is MEGA frustrating for users who press update and see all of their addons break |
| 06:36.02 | Wobin_ | well, not really. It's that your -forcing- people to test |
| 06:36.04 | Grum | seriously |
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| 06:36.05 | hyperChipmunk | svn isn't a release mechanism |
| 06:36.09 | Grum | test it yourself |
| 06:36.15 | Wobin_ | by releasing non-release quality code |
| 06:36.26 | Grum | minor oversights can be pushed to trunk sure, no-one is perfect |
| 06:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | there technically shouldn't be any problems with nonworking code anywhere in it |
| 06:36.35 | Grum | but pushing half-completed code to it? |
| 06:36.36 | ckknight | I wish WoW had a way to automate testing |
| 06:36.43 | hyperChipmunk | that's what it's there for |
| 06:36.45 | Grum | you gotto be a complete retard to do so |
| 06:36.48 | hyperChipmunk | for developing code |
| 06:36.52 | ckknight | Grum: oh, I don't push half-completed code |
| 06:36.57 | ckknight | I push code that I _think_ works |
| 06:36.59 | hyperChipmunk | heck, I do |
| 06:36.59 | Wobin_ | ckknight: It's called "Hey, you people who would like to help, please grab this from the branches and give it a go!" |
| 06:37.03 | ckknight | I'm usually wrong, mind you |
| 06:37.04 | Grum | hyperChipmunk: no that is exactly what you use branches for |
| 06:37.20 | hyperChipmunk | why? |
| 06:37.25 | hyperChipmunk | why not do it in trunk |
| 06:37.33 | Grum | the sole reason why i'm devving Cartographer_Routes in a branch is so that i can have other people test it |
| 06:37.38 | Grum | people cluefull enough to test it |
| 06:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | that's how we usually do it here |
| 06:37.54 | hyperChipmunk | but to say it's a hard and fast rule is rather absurd |
| 06:37.56 | Sole | say SOLE some more |
| 06:38.02 | Grum | not stupid users that end up with a broken addon and replace it with something else 'because it was broken' |
| 06:38.05 | Wobin_ | If they can't navigate branches, then they probably won't be able to catch errors you wouldn't already have the ability to notice =) |
| 06:38.08 | Sole | you couldve said SINGULAR |
| 06:38.11 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:38.16 | Wobin_ | I like 'Sole' |
| 06:38.19 | Wobin_ | It's a good word |
| 06:38.22 | Wobin_ | SOLE |
| 06:38.26 | Wobin_ | console |
| 06:38.28 | Sole | NO U |
| 06:38.31 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, nobody should ever expect code that even compiles from trunk |
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| 06:38.38 | ckknight | Soultrane? |
| 06:38.42 | Wobin_ | nono |
| 06:38.44 | Wobin_ | soletrain |
| 06:38.52 | Sole | those dont work btw |
| 06:38.54 | hyperChipmunk | the only place you could argue that code SHOULD compile is tags |
| 06:38.55 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:38.56 | Sole | tardbags |
| 06:38.58 | Wobin_ | sole train? |
| 06:39.01 | hyperChipmunk | sorry |
| 06:39.06 | Grum | hyperChipmunk: not at all |
| 06:39.07 | Sole | Wobin_: F U BUDDY |
| 06:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | that would be the sole place, of course |
| 06:39.15 | Wobin_ | Sole: ^^ |
| 06:39.18 | Grum | tags are also used just before key points in development |
| 06:39.22 | Sole | :'( |
| 06:39.23 | Grum | and those tags dont have to be stable |
| 06:39.37 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, but generally you generate your release from a tag |
| 06:39.39 | Sole | fucking nero |
| 06:39.45 | vhaarr | Grum: nonsense |
| 06:39.50 | hyperChipmunk | you export a tag and package it |
| 06:39.54 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.59 | Kreiger | I fucking hate computer hardware choices |
| 06:40.01 | vhaarr | Grum: ah, sorry, it's early, I misread it |
| 06:40.02 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.09 | Sole | New -> Continue multisession -> new -> select track/session ...track and session are visible but I cant select em |
| 06:40.17 | Wobin_ | Kreiger: You closed your tag before you opened it =P |
| 06:40.30 | Kreiger | I know. that's how frustrated i am. |
| 06:40.31 | hyperChipmunk | the end user should never see branches or trunk at all |
| 06:40.34 | vhaarr | Grum: I assume you mean alpha/beta/rc tag releases |
| 06:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | and they should only see tags in packaged form |
| 06:40.50 | Grum | vhaarr: tags can be used for so much more |
| 06:40.54 | Kreiger | Wobin_, i don't suppose you know diddly about monitors? lol |
| 06:41.06 | vhaarr | Grum: they're usually not |
| 06:41.06 | Wobin_ | I have a nice 24"? |
| 06:41.18 | Grum | for key-points in development |
| 06:41.21 | Kreiger | which one? |
| 06:41.22 | Wobin_ | or is it 23? |
| 06:41.24 | vhaarr | Grum: no |
| 06:41.24 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: good morning; grum's telling us why every software project ever is run by idiots |
| 06:41.27 | Wobin_ | Benq |
| 06:41.31 | Grum | 'just before i did this major change'-tag |
| 06:41.36 | Grum | hyperChipmunk: it is :) |
| 06:41.38 | vhaarr | Grum: that's bollocks |
| 06:41.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's not what a tag is |
| 06:41.42 | Kreiger | you know the model number? |
| 06:41.47 | Grum | a tag is a tag |
| 06:41.52 | Grum | it tags the code in a certain state |
| 06:41.52 | vhaarr | Grum: you're a tag |
| 06:41.54 | Grum | nothing more |
| 06:42.05 | Wobin_ | BenQ FP222W |
| 06:42.06 | vhaarr | Grum: you seem to forget what a REVISION is |
| 06:42.13 | Kreiger | Thanks, wobin. lemme check it out. |
| 06:42.17 | Wobin_ | np =) |
| 06:42.18 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, but if they're not stable, then what's the difference between the tag and just revision X? |
| 06:42.27 | Grum | vhaarr: revision is the counter on the changesets :) |
| 06:42.28 | Wobin_ | oh hey, maybe it's a 22" =P |
| 06:42.31 | vhaarr | Grum: hint: it resembles a word starting with "ta" ending in "g". |
| 06:42.39 | Grum | but a tag is nothing more than a name for a revision |
| 06:42.44 | vhaarr | Grum: TAGs are used for -releases-. |
| 06:42.51 | Grum | vhaarr: as well |
| 06:42.53 | Grum | not solely |
| 06:42.56 | hyperChipmunk | right; and if it's under development, then why do you need a tag? |
| 06:42.58 | vhaarr | nonsense |
| 06:42.58 | Wobin_ | vhaarr: Tanking? |
| 06:43.11 | vhaarr | Wobin_: LF1M Heroic Botanica, tank |
| 06:43.14 | vhaarr | pst |
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| 06:43.26 | hyperChipmunk | you know you can check out previous revisions much easier than you can change a working directory to a tag |
| 06:43.28 | Kreiger | lol. |
| 06:43.36 | vhaarr | Grum: I know a few projects do it like that, but it doesn't make sense in the long run |
| 06:43.46 | Grum | making sense? |
| 06:43.48 | Kreiger | vhaarr, fuck heroic botanica. |
| 06:43.50 | Grum | in what way |
| 06:43.52 | hyperChipmunk | making it a tag separates it from your working directory |
| 06:43.53 | vhaarr | Kreiger: never! |
| 06:43.56 | Wobin_ | I need one more nether =( |
| 06:44.05 | Wobin_ | and huwwo dragonmaw |
| 06:44.17 | vhaarr | Grum: because the amount of tags you generate with that philosophy is just too much to handle |
| 06:44.25 | Kreiger | Only heroics i did were mech for my sword and pants for enough badges for the blocker, then i did the quests to summon bane, |
| 06:44.25 | Grum | so vhaarr: you also agree that trunk can contain serious development versions of your code? |
| 06:44.26 | hyperChipmunk | and they're useless |
| 06:44.27 | vhaarr | Grum: naming conventions, history, etvc |
| 06:44.29 | Grum | that just arent working |
| 06:44.29 | Kreiger | and now i do kara |
| 06:44.36 | vhaarr | Grum: it should -only- contain that |
| 06:44.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's what trunk is foooooooor! |
| 06:44.40 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:44.44 | vhaarr | Grum: tags should be releases |
| 06:44.45 | Grum | sigh |
| 06:44.53 | hyperChipmunk | it's the trunk |
| 06:44.54 | vhaarr | Grum: and branch should be continuations of releases |
| 06:44.58 | hyperChipmunk | it's for developing |
| 06:45.00 | vhaarr | Grum: like 1.0 -> 1.0.1 |
| 06:45.05 | Grum | .... |
| 06:45.10 | hyperChipmunk | trunk is the LEAST stable |
| 06:45.12 | Grum | so 1.0 -> 2.0 belongs in trunk? |
| 06:45.16 | vhaarr | yes |
| 06:45.17 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 06:45.18 | Wobin_ | Grum: Try not to compare this argument with wowace svn =) |
| 06:45.20 | hyperChipmunk | yes absolutely yes |
| 06:45.23 | Grum | you make me completely cry |
| 06:45.24 | fitz__ | vhaar, I always found it easier to do most major work on branches and merge onto trunk too |
| 06:45.24 | Grum | seriously |
| 06:45.25 | vhaarr | wowace svn is FUCKED UP |
| 06:45.29 | Wobin_ | Cause it really really doesn't work =) |
| 06:45.30 | vhaarr | it's not how it should work |
| 06:45.35 | hyperChipmunk | lol wowace svn is totally backwards |
| 06:45.41 | Jaxon | Does anyone else find the "Inspecting Talent Points" amusing? |
| 06:45.43 | vhaarr | fitz__: yeah that's also possible |
| 06:45.55 | Grum | so when a new developer wants a clean checkout of the code .. he has to look up the latest stable version .. so he has to look through all of the tags and find the one he wants? |
| 06:46.01 | fitz__ | useful when you have more than one developer on a single project |
| 06:46.06 | Grum | and what about 2 big code changes at the same time |
| 06:46.12 | Grum | how do you manage that in trunk? (you can not) |
| 06:46.21 | vhaarr | Grum: sure you can |
| 06:46.21 | fitz__ | grum, make a branch for each code change, merge when done, merge regularly between the two if that's feasible |
| 06:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | if you want a clean checkout of code, you don't want the place the devs are experimenting, so yeah |
| 06:46.27 | Grum | fitz__: thanks .. thanks .. thanks |
| 06:46.31 | Grum | that is the way to do it |
| 06:46.34 | Grum | seriously :) |
| 06:46.35 | Wobin_ | major work in trunk works best if you're the only developer |
| 06:46.46 | Kreiger | Wobin_, you play anyhing besides wow? |
| 06:46.52 | Wobin_ | Kreiger: No =) |
| 06:46.53 | fitz__ | grum, but not *tags* for each code change :) |
| 06:46.55 | Grum | finally someone with a piece of clue about it |
| 06:46.56 | hyperChipmunk | generally, each dev has their own branch |
| 06:46.57 | Wobin_ | I'm considering installing windows |
| 06:46.59 | Grum | that i never said fitz__ |
| 06:47.02 | Wobin_ | for bioshock and the like |
| 06:47.03 | fitz__ | heh heh |
| 06:47.11 | fitz__ | I'm not really playing along at home here, just stirring the pot |
| 06:47.18 | fitz__ | oo, speaking of home, nearly time to leave work |
| 06:47.25 | Grum | only for 'major events' .. "directory overhaul pre checkpoint' for example |
| 06:47.38 | hyperChipmunk | so where do your releases go? |
| 06:47.47 | Grum | trunk and they get tagged ofc |
| 06:48.00 | hyperChipmunk | ok, this conversation is pointless |
| 06:48.04 | Grum | just tag with 'DEV_...' and 'REL_X_Y_Z' |
| 06:48.17 | hyperChipmunk | you're just trying to provoke people now, because nobody is seriously that stupid |
| 06:48.22 | hyperChipmunk | go away, troll |
| 06:48.22 | Grum | lol |
| 06:48.38 | sedatedChipmunk | g'night |
| 06:48.42 | Grum | lol |
| 06:48.56 | Grum | no arguments left and then call me a troll .. right .. bye :) |
| 06:49.17 | vhaarr | WE HAVE LOTS OF ARGUMENTS |
| 06:49.19 | vhaarr | LIKE THIS ONE |
| 06:49.23 | *** kick/#wowace [Grum!n=folk@ti0013a380-1329.bb.online.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
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| 06:49.25 | Wobin_ | vhaarr: No we don't! |
| 06:49.28 | Grum | STFU! |
| 06:49.30 | Grum | sigh |
| 06:49.34 | Wobin_ | We do -not- have arguments |
| 06:49.36 | Grum | OMG THAT IS A BIG EPEEEN |
| 06:49.39 | Grum | .... |
| 06:49.43 | vhaarr | haha |
| 06:49.49 | Grum | now learn to release-manage |
| 06:49.57 | sedatedChipmunk | yeah, you win; we bow before your mighty intellectual and organizational superiority |
| 06:50.07 | Wobin_ | Oh I'm sorry, this is Abuse =P |
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| 06:50.20 | Grum | sedatedChipmunk: oh stfu |
| 06:50.21 | Kreiger | Wobin_, i don't see 2 black eyes on Grum. |
| 06:50.39 | Grum | o.O |
| 06:50.46 | Wobin_ | Kreiger: I was trying to do some Python quoting =P |
| 06:51.02 | Kreiger | as in monty? or do you speak Snake now? |
| 06:51.05 | Wobin_ | yes |
| 06:51.18 | Wobin_ | to the first =P |
| 06:51.18 | Grum | i still havent heard a single argument why doing major code surgery should be done in trunk is good |
| 06:51.24 | Kreiger | not familar with the skit. |
| 06:51.34 | Kreiger | Grum, because you touch yourself at night. |
| 06:51.41 | Kreiger | There. |
| 06:51.46 | Grum | Kreiger: doing that now, thinking of you! |
| 06:52.03 | sedatedChipmunk | the argument is that that's simply where you do major development; svn is a tool for developers, and that's the most convenient place to do it |
| 06:52.10 | Kreiger | Oh baby. You know i happen to be popping a zit on my back while bleeding from a bloody nose. so have fun. |
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| 06:52.18 | Wobin_ | Kreiger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y05EmK66Gsk |
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| 06:52.30 | sedatedChipmunk | if it was meant for release, it'd be seeds or something |
| 06:52.33 | Kreiger | OH |
| 06:52.35 | Kreiger | DUH |
| 06:53.10 | sedatedChipmunk | night, guys |
| 06:55.14 | pakoz | anyone know the /script for accepting a res? (asked earlier but my isp died?)? |
| 06:55.42 | Sole | Im too fucking lazy to set up branches |
| 06:55.46 | Sole | and then merge it back in |
| 06:55.51 | Sole | Id rather develop straight up |
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| 06:56.11 | Grum | pakoz: get Automaton |
| 06:56.17 | Grum | it can autoaccept rezzes and much more |
| 06:56.17 | Sole | and only upload when the shit works on my end, at least with no bugs that I am able to detect |
| 06:56.38 | Grum | Sole: that is the same principle |
| 06:56.39 | pakoz | i dont want rezzes auto accepted |
| 06:56.47 | pakoz | mines just bugged and isnt showing up |
| 06:56.50 | Sole | Grum: so whats the problem |
| 06:56.55 | Grum | then you have to relog pakoz |
| 06:57.10 | Grum | the problem is that stupid fuktards push broken code in to trunk |
| 06:57.10 | Sole | who knows anything about nero here? |
| 06:57.12 | neenee | Hm. I wish the pitbull 'Post cool layouts' thread wouldn't sidetrack into discussing problems with layouts. |
| 06:57.13 | Sole | ok that was bad |
| 06:57.14 | Grum | and i mean *BROKEN* |
| 06:57.18 | Sole | who can help me out with nero? |
| 06:57.25 | Grum | what is the problem Sole? |
| 06:57.49 | Sole | Grum: well Im not a stupid fucktard and Im a sole developer |
| 06:57.56 | weab | a lot of developers don't use externals |
| 06:58.23 | Grum | Sole: if you have a well used addon you dont just do major surgery on the code and push it halfway |
| 06:58.23 | weab | which means it can work fine for them on their end and they can push up code without realizing they forgot to add an external or that kind of thing |
| 06:58.26 | Sole | Grum: last time I tried a team project me and wobin banged our heads against the wall and got a cool addon which does fuck all |
| 06:58.27 | weab | i've done that a few times |
| 06:58.39 | Sole | Grum: SVN is for test versions |
| 06:58.46 | Sole | Grum: where the hell else am I supposed to release it? |
| 06:58.55 | Sole | Grum: SVN is for users who wish to help me out |
| 06:58.56 | Wobin_ | Sole: And it was fun =P |
| 06:59.10 | Sole | Grum: if some asshole starts bitching to me I will kindly tell him to suck a fat black dick |
| 06:59.11 | Grum | Sole: no, in wowace's case SVN is for everyone |
| 06:59.12 | Wobin_ | Up until the point where we realised we were trying to understand secure state headers =P |
| 06:59.25 | Sole | Grum: I dont care about everyone |
| 06:59.26 | Wobin_ | and it all went downhill from there =P |
| 06:59.31 | Sole | yeah :( |
| 06:59.46 | Grum | at least the majority of the addon makers isn't a complete retard |
| 06:59.54 | Sole | the whole secure state headers just made me want to stick 2 pencils up my nose and slam my face against a table |
| 07:00.02 | Sole | ^ how the blues clues guy killed himself when he was high |
| 07:00.09 | Wobin_ | nodding? |
| 07:00.15 | Sole | no |
| 07:00.15 | Wobin_ | well.. I guess so =) |
| 07:00.19 | Sole | stuck 2 pencils in his nose |
| 07:00.23 | Wobin_ | and nodded hard |
| 07:00.24 | weab | i agree with both Sole and Grum bout the svn. it should be for testing but in wowace's case it really isn't |
| 07:00.26 | Kreiger|Dumb | No he didn't. |
| 07:00.34 | Sole | rly? |
| 07:00.36 | Sole | thats what I heard |
| 07:00.42 | Grum | oh and for anyone who is wondering, pushing broken code to trunk makes you a complete retard (especially if you know its broken or you know it is completely untested and relatively major) |
| 07:00.45 | Kreiger | i've never heard that before. |
| 07:01.09 | weab | i don't think it makes you retarded. i think it makes you inconsiderate |
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| 07:01.14 | Grum | and that includes drycode changes |
| 07:01.18 | weab | but when it's your code you don't really have to care about your users if you don't want to |
| 07:01.21 | weab | that's your own decision |
| 07:01.36 | Sole | why should I be considerate to morons? |
| 07:01.39 | Wobin_ | http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/bluesclues.asp |
| 07:01.40 | Grum | ah well.. retard types easier ;D |
| 07:01.41 | Sole | I have a low tolerance for stupidity |
| 07:01.54 | Grum | Sole: so you want to keep stupid away right? |
| 07:01.59 | Grum | not get them to bother you |
| 07:02.06 | Sole | no they can use my shit |
| 07:02.17 | Sole | just the svn releases are meant for testers |
| 07:02.20 | weab | dunno. i check everything out from the svn because it's easy to update |
| 07:02.22 | Sole | who report bugs and all that |
| 07:03.05 | Sole | thats what it was and I dont care if WAU has made it so that any retard and his dog can go WOOP I GOTS MY ADDONS LETS GO RAIDS THE DRAGON |
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| 07:03.19 | weab | but if something breaks i won't cry about it. unless it's ckk's mod, but that's just because i like to bother him |
| 07:03.41 | Sole | thats the thing, I tend to make sure its not broken before uploading |
| 07:03.46 | Sole | its not that hard to test a change |
| 07:03.50 | Sole | even a relatively major one |
| 07:03.59 | Sole | try most situations |
| 07:03.59 | weab | depends on the mod |
| 07:04.02 | Sole | true |
| 07:04.10 | Sole | Ive generally had an easy time |
| 07:04.17 | Sole | but thats probably because Ive only released 3 to the public |
| 07:04.22 | Sole | wait, 5 |
| 07:04.38 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r51745 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 07:04.43 | weab | i've only released one and i'm too lazy to keep it updated |
| 07:04.45 | Sole | and kept the rest on my computer which all got deleted when I ahem...accidentally formatted |
| 07:05.03 | Sole | Grum: anyway to the nero problem |
| 07:05.06 | Grum | Sole: putting that in a branch would have saved your code ^^ |
| 07:05.15 | Sole | Grum: but I didnt want to release it anyway |
| 07:05.31 | weab | private svn ftw |
| 07:05.35 | Sole | Grum: it was just experimental stuff or addons which did some tasks specific to being a jew |
| 07:05.38 | Wobin_ | googlesvn |
| 07:05.59 | Sole | Grum: the nero problem |
| 07:06.04 | Wobin_ | made sure everything you bought was kosher? |
| 07:06.09 | Sole | yes |
| 07:06.12 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 07:06.19 | weab | some of my most important mods are tiny little unreleased things i wrote for myself |
| 07:06.34 | weab | i use /math so much that i try to use it outside of wow a lot. |
| 07:06.44 | Sole | I wrote the first ever Nef dragonkin kill counter |
| 07:06.46 | weab | and i get frustrated when i can't calculate something just by typing 5 letters. |
| 07:06.47 | Sole | true story |
| 07:07.07 | Grum | weab: linux prompt and 'bc' ? :D |
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| 07:07.57 | Sole | Grum: I select New->Continue Multisession -> New -> Prompts to selection session + track, which is where Im at a stop. The session and track are visible but I cant select them |
| 07:08.36 | ragingdem | anyone saw insane warriors video? |
| 07:09.00 | weab | tbh i didn't know of bc. i'm borderline amateur/intermediate with linux at best |
| 07:09.01 | Grum | Sole: humz i never multi-session cd/dvds |
| 07:09.39 | Grum | weab: just keep in mind bc assumes non-floats unless you explictly tell it to |
| 07:09.49 | Grum | 5/2 will be 2 :) |
| 07:09.53 | Sole | Grum: what linux distro are you using? |
| 07:09.54 | pakoz | ragingdem: no, links? |
| 07:10.16 | Grum | debian |
| 07:10.31 | ragingdem | hmm its in warcraftmovies |
| 07:10.32 | Grum | or ubuntu .. depends what box i'm on |
| 07:10.54 | ragingdem | just search for insane warriors, its a compilation of good warrior movies pre tbc |
| 07:11.07 | ragingdem | the reason i ask is cause i need to know a name of a song :D lol |
| 07:11.21 | Sole | Grum: which do you prefer? |
| 07:11.28 | Grum | they are equal to me |
| 07:11.37 | Sole | Grum: Im switching to ubuntu soon but I havent really been able to get any opinions on other distros |
| 07:11.46 | Grum | just take ubuntu |
| 07:11.48 | Grum | it works fine |
| 07:11.54 | Wobin_ | I like ubuntu |
| 07:11.59 | Sole | yeah I like it a lot |
| 07:12.04 | Sole | waiting for Gutsy Gibbon release |
| 07:12.04 | Grum | run (k)ubuntu @ work |
| 07:14.43 | neenee | Everyone has their own preference :) |
| 07:15.31 | theoddone33 | anyone have a 70 fire mage? |
| 07:15.34 | theoddone33 | I'm pretty curious about specs |
| 07:16.01 | Saint-N | ret paladin |
| 07:16.07 | Saint-N | thats all you need to know ;) |
| 07:16.37 | Saint-N | sole: depends what you wanna do with yer nix box |
| 07:16.48 | Sole | Saint-N: porn |
| 07:17.01 | Saint-N | ubuntu is alright, its more or less the mandrake of a few years ago in that most people run it because its simple |
| 07:17.05 | Sole | Saint-N: I mean general home use. Internet, coding, gaming, music |
| 07:17.18 | Saint-N | anti-x mepis is groovy for older boxes |
| 07:17.22 | Sole | and watching movies of course |
| 07:17.26 | Sole | only problem with ubuntu I noticed |
| 07:17.30 | Sole | the video quality seemed ass |
| 07:17.31 | Saint-N | mint is great for gaming |
| 07:17.38 | Sole | maybe I needed to install some extra drivers? |
| 07:17.41 | Saint-N | mint is feisty based |
| 07:17.55 | Sole | hmm |
| 07:18.01 | Bruners | how are the ati drivers for linux atm? |
| 07:18.02 | Saint-N | oh as a tip if you plan on doing all that avoid getting a 64 version ;P |
| 07:18.10 | Saint-N | ive had very little issues with em |
| 07:18.17 | Saint-N | thats not to say there arent issues |
| 07:18.25 | Saint-N | justthat i appearantly know what im doing ;) |
| 07:18.41 | Grum | Saint-N: a 64 version? |
| 07:18.44 | Grum | you mean 64b? |
| 07:18.45 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 07:18.47 | Saint-N | no |
| 07:18.51 | Saint-N | 64bit |
| 07:18.56 | Saint-N | so yes |
| 07:18.58 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 07:19.00 | Sole | 64 version was all lolflash WUTS THAT? |
| 07:19.00 | Grum | why? |
| 07:19.09 | Grum | the only problems with 64bit is that flash wont work |
| 07:19.12 | Saint-N | alot of the flash and codec shit is a pain to get working right in 64 |
| 07:19.23 | Grum | have had no codec problems whatsoever |
| 07:19.25 | Grum | mplayer is smart :) |
| 07:19.26 | Saint-N | AND sometimes the video drivers are bitchy to install |
| 07:19.29 | neenee | It hasn't been a problem for a long long while |
| 07:19.31 | Sole | also firefox looks funky in ubuntu thats about it |
| 07:19.34 | Saint-N | im talking embedded video |
| 07:19.42 | Grum | Saint-N: get a nvideocard |
| 07:19.48 | Saint-N | nvidi is shit |
| 07:19.48 | Grum | Saint-N: mplayer can do that as well |
| 07:19.49 | Sole | Grum: the same mplayer thats available for windows? |
| 07:20.00 | Saint-N | i hate that company and every piece of crap they make ;P |
| 07:20.00 | Grum | Sole: no the good version of mplayer |
| 07:20.05 | Grum | the one of mplayer.hu |
| 07:20.05 | Sole | Grum: ok |
| 07:20.14 | Sole | Grum: because the mplayer for windows blows |
| 07:20.23 | Grum | Saint-N: at least they have decent performing drivers |
| 07:20.26 | Saint-N | mplayer2 ;P |
| 07:20.37 | Grum | but seriously, only flash is a problem |
| 07:20.41 | Saint-N | like i said i have no issues with my atis in nix |
| 07:20.42 | Sole | really? |
| 07:20.46 | Grum | and that problem can be solved by just making a chroot for your firefox |
| 07:20.59 | Sole | dont you just install a 32 bit firefox? |
| 07:21.06 | Grum | in your 32bit chroot yes |
| 07:21.14 | Sole | sounds annoying :p |
| 07:21.17 | Grum | it is |
| 07:21.20 | Saint-N | heh |
| 07:21.28 | Grum | blame the noobtarts @ macromedia |
| 07:21.30 | Saint-N | grum played with iceweasel yet? |
| 07:21.31 | Sole | any idea if thats fixed in gutsy? |
| 07:21.41 | Grum | 'oh noes we have written such a crap piece of software that we cant possible make it 64bit' |
| 07:21.52 | Grum | Sole: likely not |
| 07:22.01 | Grum | but htey might have automated the 'getting of a chroot' part |
| 07:22.09 | Sole | hope so |
| 07:22.11 | theoddone33 | hm I looked at kerp's armory but he's not frost |
| 07:22.15 | theoddone33 | can't find fura |
| 07:22.23 | theoddone33 | what server is curse on? |
| 07:22.26 | Sole | unfortunately flash is used in some important sites I use |
| 07:22.32 | Sole | youtube, youporn, beasttube, etc |
| 07:22.36 | Grum | they install a chroot |
| 07:22.37 | Sole | forget that last one |
| 07:22.39 | Grum | and it will work fine |
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| 07:22.51 | Grum | Sole: you mean the first one? |
| 07:22.57 | Sole | Grum: lol |
| 07:24.27 | Sole | guess I'll go with 64 bit gutsy |
| 07:24.31 | Sole | it looks really nice |
| 07:24.37 | Grum | why wait for gutsy? |
| 07:24.44 | Sole | well Im not |
| 07:24.53 | Sole | I already have 64 bit feisty installed |
| 07:24.57 | Sole | its just being weird |
| 07:25.02 | Sole | and not setting resolution properly |
| 07:25.12 | Sole | maybe I should go find some 'official' nvidia drivers |
| 07:25.32 | Sole | side note |
| 07:25.40 | Sole | WTF NERO IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER OUR COMPUTERS |
| 07:26.20 | Sole | installation of nero 8: install nero 8 with Ask toolbar? YES YES YES? next, install nero 8 with WEATHER DESKPTOP? (how the hell is that relevant) |
| 07:26.28 | Grum | Sole: apt-get install nvidia-kernel ? :) |
| 07:26.41 | theoddone33 | here's how you get nero to work |
| 07:26.49 | Sole | Grum: lol well thats embarassing |
| 07:26.50 | theoddone33 | uncheck every possible box in the install |
| 07:26.54 | theoddone33 | except for the cd burner |
| 07:26.57 | theoddone33 | because that's all anyone wants |
| 07:27.04 | theoddone33 | then when it asks to associate with files, uncheck all of those |
| 07:27.06 | Sole | Grum: damn linux and its beauty |
| 07:27.14 | Grum | oh sorry sole, i forgot 'sudo ' before it :) |
| 07:27.16 | theoddone33 | then finish installing and disable the stupid toolbar it installed anyway |
| 07:27.37 | Grum | but there is actually a nice 'helper' to isntall nvidia afaik |
| 07:27.48 | Grum | but cant remember the name |
| 07:27.53 | Grum | just look for it with apt-cache search :) |
| 07:29.32 | Sole | will it make my damn video quality better? |
| 07:29.37 | Sole | or is that just the default video player being bad? |
| 07:29.44 | Sole | and I should go get mplayer |
| 07:29.57 | Grum | that is because you download crappy videofiles/streams |
| 07:30.03 | Sole | no |
| 07:30.07 | Grum | yes :) |
| 07:30.08 | Sole | these are good quality AVI files |
| 07:30.21 | Grum | apt-get install mplayer w32codecs btw for mplayer :) |
| 07:30.22 | Sole | they play just fine in windows |
| 07:31.48 | Grum | Sole: so what doesnt play them well? |
| 07:31.53 | Grum | and what kind of codec is used? |
| 07:32.09 | Sole | uhm |
| 07:32.11 | Sole | the default ubuntu one |
| 07:32.14 | Sole | Im currently on windows |
| 07:32.18 | Sole | cant remember off the top of my head |
| 07:32.38 | Sole | and it uses some codec that it grabbed itself :P |
| 07:32.41 | Sole | I just said yes |
| 07:32.56 | Grum | totem .. or |
| 07:33.01 | Sole | yeah totem I think |
| 07:33.02 | Grum | mmm dunno what the other default one was |
| 07:33.17 | Grum | but seriously, mplayer ftw :) |
| 07:33.51 | Sole | Im guessing when gutsy is released it will just download the update, right? |
| 07:33.59 | Sole | or will I have to completely reinstall it? |
| 07:34.11 | Sole | the latter sounds retarded but Im just making sure :P |
| 07:35.21 | Grum | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:35.28 | Sole | k |
| 07:35.31 | Sole | brb restart comp |
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| 07:44.26 | neenee | Dum dee dum |
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| 07:46.03 | Corgan | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7776/wowscrnshot101107214608yr6.jpg |
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| 07:46.42 | ckknight | halloween? |
| 07:47.35 | Corgan | no |
| 07:47.39 | Corgan | Zul'aman helm |
| 07:47.46 | Corgan | plate |
| 07:47.47 | Corgan | http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7678/wowscrnshot101107214807zr6.jpg |
| 07:47.49 | Corgan | that's the leather one |
| 07:48.12 | Ellipsis | got a screenshot of cloth? |
| 07:48.23 | Corgan | I don't have the itemid yet |
| 07:48.26 | ckknight | I still call halloween mask on that. |
| 07:48.46 | Ellipsis | ckknight, your mom is a halloween mask |
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| 07:49.23 | ckknight | it's true, every night I wish that she could love me, but then I realize that, no, she's just a halloween mask :-( |
| 07:50.02 | Ellipsis | actually I hear you can convert a halloween mask into a special "toy" with minimal supplies |
| 07:50.34 | Ellipsis | couple pieces of foam rubber and a plastic bag, little duct tape round the edges.... |
| 07:50.44 | Ellipsis | perhaps you should look into it |
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| 07:51.55 | Jorden-ED | Does anyone ever get an intresting internet/network error where you know your internet is working yet you can load any websites? |
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| 07:52.27 | Jorden-ED | 0o |
| 07:52.31 | Jorden-ED | MT wrong channle lawl |
| 07:53.04 | Sole | what do ya know |
| 07:53.08 | Sole | new nero works |
| 07:53.16 | Sole | turns out its just the old nero being a douche |
| 07:53.40 | Sole | and the essential part of continuing a multisession cd didnt work for me |
| 07:54.03 | Sole | Grum: what irc client do you recommend for linux? |
| 07:54.14 | Bruners | irsii |
| 07:54.16 | Bruners | irssi |
| 07:54.27 | Ellipsis | bitchx |
| 07:54.32 | Sole | ^ thats u |
| 07:54.38 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 07:54.41 | Sole | <3 |
| 07:54.47 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 07:54.50 | Sole | havent seen you in a while |
| 07:55.00 | Ellipsis | rumors of my death were greatly exaggerated |
| 07:55.01 | Jorden-ED | lol |
| 07:55.03 | Jorden-ED | Xchat? |
| 07:55.22 | Sole | Ellipsis: I had NOTHING to do with that |
| 07:55.38 | Sole | btw guys |
| 07:55.45 | Sole | if you get the chance to, see the movie War |
| 07:55.57 | Sole | its entertaining |
| 07:56.10 | Ellipsis | you mean you didn't kill me? |
| 07:56.21 | Ellipsis | darn, the mystery remains unsolved... |
| 07:56.27 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd say BitchX as well. |
| 07:56.38 | ZealotOnAStick | The only Win32 ports of it I've tried sucked. |
| 07:56.44 | Sole | oki |
| 07:56.54 | neenee | I prefer irssi |
| 07:56.57 | Jorden-ED | I have never tryed BitchX |
| 07:56.58 | neenee | *hugs irssi* |
| 07:57.05 | Jorden-ED | I use Irssi when i have to drop out of gui |
| 07:57.07 | ZealotOnAStick | irssi is popular too. |
| 07:57.18 | neenee | But try them both and see what you like best. |
| 07:57.22 | Ellipsis | I like bitchx on *nix, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy |
| 07:57.36 | Jorden-ED | but Xchat came installed on FedoraCore1 (witch was the first linux I tryed like 4years ago) and it stuck with me for some reason |
| 07:57.44 | neenee | I use xchat on windows |
| 07:58.09 | Ellipsis | I use xchat when I want a GUI and don't have my regular client available |
| 07:58.22 | Jorden-ED | though.. I have an odd error with xchat on my ubuntu box |
| 07:58.33 | Jorden-ED | actuly.. I guss its my GUI |
| 07:58.33 | neenee | Then fix it |
| 07:58.41 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 07:58.51 | Jorden-ED | if I run xchat or irssi (via xterm) they lag out |
| 07:58.52 | Corgan | http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8875/wowscrnshot101107215436yk1.jpg oh hi guyz |
| 07:59.00 | Jorden-ED | but if I run them out of gui.. they run just fine 0o |
| 07:59.03 | Ellipsis | r u srs |
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| 07:59.27 | Ellipsis | that's like an undead clown on crack |
| 07:59.42 | ckknight | insane clown posse ftw? |
| 07:59.58 | ragingdem | anyone saw insane warriors video? |
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| 08:00.38 | Sole | well YAY |
| 08:00.43 | Sole | I finally get the multisession working |
| 08:00.52 | Sole | and now my dvd player only sees teh first session |
| 08:01.05 | ZealotOnAStick | So, much info on the ZA items yet? |
| 08:01.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Like, anything to fill the gaps in DPS caster weapons or Aff Lock/Shadow Priest itemization? |
| 08:04.38 | Mikk | which gap? |
| 08:04.52 | Mikk | aff lock / shadowpriest = get shadoweave = you win |
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| 08:05.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Like, since I'm a warlock, I have Tempest of Chaos, but there's nothing comparable for priests, as they can't use Swords. |
| 08:05.24 | Bruners | think ill go fire on my lock |
| 08:05.31 | cryogen | morning |
| 08:05.38 | ZealotOnAStick | like, the best aff lock/shadow priest neck in the entire damn game through BT is STILL a Karazhan trash drop. |
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| 08:05.55 | Nickiniz | turk yokmu |
| 08:05.55 | Nickiniz | :D |
| 08:06.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Like, even including the new trash mace, there's a total of 3 one-handed DPS Caster weapons in all of BT/Hyjal. |
| 08:06.03 | Keias | ZealotOnAStick, that's notthing |
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| 08:06.10 | Keias | Best tanking helm enchant is from ZulGurub |
| 08:06.25 | ZealotOnAStick | That one is pretty darn arguable. |
| 08:06.32 | Bruners | ZealotOnAStick: what neck is that? |
| 08:06.41 | Keias | Ritsynn's Lost Pendant |
| 08:06.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Ritssyn's Lost Pendant. |
| 08:06.58 | Ellipsis | WTB =[ |
| 08:07.05 | ZealotOnAStick | We had Hellfire-encased Pendant drop tonight in Hyjal. |
| 08:07.14 | ZealotOnAStick | WTF!? Where's the shadow version of THAT. |
| 08:07.26 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick, you are relevant to my interests |
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| 08:10.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Something else for boots would be nice too. |
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| 08:11.43 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51746 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 08:11.43 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:11.43 | CIA-12 | - prepared integration for new Heroic Badge Rewards |
| 08:12.17 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51747 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 08:12.17 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 08:12.17 | CIA-12 | - New Pattern from 2.3 introduced |
| 08:13.36 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r51748 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/embeds.xml: !AlarLib Fixed missing reference to Babble-Inventory |
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| 08:17.11 | Jorden-ED | can you guys read this? |
| 08:17.14 | Ellipsis_ | no |
| 08:17.18 | Jorden-ED | hrm.. odd |
| 08:17.23 | Ellipsis_ | :P |
| 08:17.31 | Jorden-ED | I cant connect to any websites, I can ping google but thats all |
| 08:17.37 | Jorden-ED | yet I can connect to wow and irc 0o |
| 08:17.54 | Mecdemort | what is the 2nd argument passed to OnEnter and OnLeave? it always seems to be true |
| 08:18.09 | Ellipsis_ | it's the value of true |
| 08:18.14 | Ellipsis_ | just in case that ever changes |
| 08:18.49 | Mecdemort | uh huh |
| 08:19.15 | Ellipsis_ | :) |
| 08:19.19 | ragingdem | Jorden-ED u got a firewall? -.- |
| 08:19.27 | Jorden-ED | No I don't |
| 08:19.32 | Jorden-ED | I have a router.. but I am in the DMZ |
| 08:19.45 | Madmarv | whats dmz |
| 08:19.49 | Ellipsis_ | .... |
| 08:19.58 | Ellipsis_ | I don't think you're qualified to troubleshoot Jorden-ED's problem |
| 08:20.13 | Mikk | "the dmz" on most routers is a bloody joke |
| 08:20.24 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: it's a boolean saying whether the clients mouse is moving or not, I think |
| 08:20.26 | Mikk | "dmz" on a firewall is a zone between two firewalls, or on a separatedly routed interface |
| 08:20.41 | Mikk | "dmz" on a cheapo router just means "i ahve a public ip, please let me receive connections" |
| 08:20.50 | Jorden-ED | ^_^ yah |
| 08:20.57 | Jorden-ED | but it never herts to try! |
| 08:21.05 | Jorden-ED | and wow.. ZING its back.. |
| 08:21.09 | Jorden-ED | only like 10min.. and its gone again |
| 08:21.22 | Mikk | sounds like you need to disable some application-level shit in the router |
| 08:21.29 | Mecdemort | DMZ = demilitarized zone? |
| 08:21.30 | Mikk | prolly some HTTP filtering nonsense that overloads |
| 08:21.32 | Mecdemort | ;p |
| 08:21.34 | Mikk | it likes to do that in shit firmware |
| 08:21.44 | Jorden-ED | ^_^ <3 Mikk |
| 08:21.50 | Jorden-ED | That would make since |
| 08:21.57 | Jorden-ED | considering I am using a free router with 7+ computers |
| 08:21.58 | Ellipsis_ | I bet it's a D-Link |
| 08:22.02 | Mikk | Mecdemort: aye, the meaning originally came from having two firewalls, one outer one, then a zone with public servers, then an inner one, then the private network |
| 08:22.06 | *** join/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 08:22.15 | Mecdemort | weird |
| 08:22.17 | Mikk | netgear is equally shit |
| 08:22.25 | Jorden-ED | tis not just a netgear |
| 08:22.27 | Mikk | dlink and netgear compete for shitness |
| 08:22.28 | Jorden-ED | but a FREE netgear |
| 08:22.32 | Ellipsis_ | eh, there you go |
| 08:22.39 | NeoTron | Kael'thas 16% zomg |
| 08:22.41 | Jorden-ED | Timewarner gave it to me as my modem.. and I am to broke to replace it all |
| 08:22.45 | Ellipsis_ | I have a netgear I actually use occasionally, but only because it's small enough to fit in my purse |
| 08:22.46 | Mikk | and trust me, i've actually been involved in the dev cycle of dlink products |
| 08:22.50 | NeoTron | wtb tanks that know to not get 9 stacks of that stupid debuff. :( |
| 08:22.52 | Ellipsis_ | so it's easier to carry around when I need quick wireless |
| 08:22.53 | Mikk | i know how little they care that shit actually works |
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| 08:23.25 | Aens[T] | anyone here kill illidari council? |
| 08:24.05 | cryogen | 09:22 <+Mikk> dlink and netgear compete for shitness |
| 08:24.10 | Jorden-ED | alright Mikk 0o I am going to look into disabling that shit =D |
| 08:24.13 | cryogen | anyone is supposed to be surprirsed by this? |
| 08:24.19 | cryogen | you get what you pay for :p |
| 08:24.28 | cryogen | (mostly) |
| 08:24.35 | Jorden-ED | True story ^_^ |
| 08:24.40 | Ellipsis_ | worst "router" I've ever used was an Actiontec |
| 08:24.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Aens|Superiority: Yeah. What's up? |
| 08:24.47 | Jorden-ED | but when you got no cash.. Free > None |
| 08:25.03 | cryogen | cheap is not always necessarily bad |
| 08:25.19 | Mikk | no just a hell of a lot more often than not :P |
| 08:25.36 | cryogen | actually mostly not |
| 08:25.40 | Ellipsis_ | especially if you don't know about the technical side |
| 08:26.11 | cryogen | depends on your requirements too |
| 08:26.15 | cryogen | cheapo shit is fine for home routing |
| 08:26.28 | cryogen | where routing is a glorified hardware NAT |
| 08:26.31 | Ellipsis_ | uh...sometimes it is |
| 08:26.37 | Jorden-ED | idk |
| 08:26.42 | Ellipsis_ | unless the router just overheats every hour |
| 08:26.55 | Jorden-ED | I got this one free router that limited the number of IPs it would give out to 5 |
| 08:27.03 | Jorden-ED | lol.. I run 5 comps on my desk alone |
| 08:27.04 | cryogen | heh |
| 08:27.05 | Jorden-ED | minimum |
| 08:28.07 | Aens|Superiority | zoas: how do you guys pull it? |
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| 08:28.31 | Aens|Superiority | we have a mage as guild master and he keeps trying to pull it. Gets killed in seconds |
| 08:28.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, we tried that. |
| 08:28.51 | ZealotOnAStick | It didn't work well. |
| 08:29.16 | Aens|Superiority | how do you guys do it? |
| 08:29.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Misdirect pull Gathios onto the MT, rogue Malande MTs then pull theirs and the mage spellsteals zerevor. |
| 08:29.41 | ZealotOnAStick | err, OTs, rather. |
| 08:29.48 | Jorden-ED | Mikk: lol, time to resurch how to turn stuff off in a router =D fun times |
| 08:30.10 | Aens|Superiority | I pull the rogue with a moonfire and drag him to a corner. |
| 08:30.22 | ZealotOnAStick | If you start with the mage pulling with bolt/fireball or spellsteal, everything will splutch him. |
| 08:30.34 | Aens|Superiority | its just that how do you survive the first arcane bolt thing |
| 08:30.41 | Aens|Superiority | ah |
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| 08:31.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, the MT is in position over by the bench/shrubs over by the right side. |
| 08:31.31 | ZealotOnAStick | he runs up to just below the right stairs up when the hunter MDs him. |
| 08:31.35 | Kerafyrm | http://ace.pastey.net/75188 |
| 08:31.41 | ZealotOnAStick | everything makes for moving to him, to either get LoS or range. |
| 08:32.00 | ZealotOnAStick | rogue and malande OTs do whatever to pull theirs off, first thing our mage tank casts is Spellsteal. |
| 08:32.17 | ZealotOnAStick | so then he's got the massive magic damage reduction buff, and survives when zerevor turns to try to blow him up. |
| 08:32.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Gotta be quick, definitely takes practice. |
| 08:32.48 | Aens|Superiority | so you use that ramp on the right side as LoS? |
| 08:32.49 | ZealotOnAStick | We spent probably 45 minutes to an hour of repeated wipes just getting the pull right. |
| 08:32.57 | ZealotOnAStick | More just range, really. |
| 08:32.58 | Aens|Superiority | well, the pull is everything for that fight |
| 08:33.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Zerevor can't hit that far from his start position with arcane bolt dealy, though he easily can with blizzard and the icky fire thing. |
| 08:34.02 | ZealotOnAStick | he's got to run over a bit to get in range, and that couple of seconds should give time for the spellsteal. |
| 08:34.14 | Aens|Superiority | 30 yards? |
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| 08:35.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Told you what I can there. *shrug* my role on the fight is pretty easy, I'd have to catch one of our hunters or our mages for more details. |
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| 08:35.48 | Aens|Superiority | ZealotOnAStick: no, thats much appreciated |
| 08:36.12 | Aens|Superiority | last week was our first week of progression in a month. Such insane turnover :/ |
| 08:36.36 | Aens|Superiority | got bloodboil, ros, shahraz down in one week. |
| 08:36.56 | Aens|Superiority | and we got two more raid days this week to get council |
| 08:37.38 | ZealotOnAStick | We've got 2 more raid days to get council and illidan and archimonde, since people kept fucking up archimonde tonight, and depriving me of my Hood. |
| 08:38.02 | ZealotOnAStick | which means I'm probably screwed out of it at least another week, since we're not going back for arch unless we kill illidan |
| 08:38.11 | Aens|Superiority | yeah |
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| 08:40.39 | ZealotOnAStick | once the pull starts working, just hammer home to your folks that they need to do whatever they can to survive. Don't finish the cast, MOVE out of the blizzard or flamestrike immediately, and use healthstones/pots/etc. |
| 08:41.01 | ZealotOnAStick | hopefully your guild is better about that than mine . . . so many preventable deaths. |
| 08:42.15 | Grum | ZealotOnAStick: hehe when isnt that the case? ;D |
| 08:42.50 | [iL]veresis | does someone know how to fix cartographer error (missing several libs), that occured after updating it with WAU? |
| 08:43.04 | ZealotOnAStick | you run with externals or not? |
| 08:43.35 | [iL]veresis | frankly speaking, i have no idea |
| 08:43.39 | art3mis | ooooooo |
| 08:43.48 | ZealotOnAStick | try reinstalling it with WAU. |
| 08:43.49 | art3mis | so who likes playnig with win32 desktop shells? |
| 08:43.50 | Ellipsis | at least one a day |
| 08:43.51 | ZealotOnAStick | see if that helps. |
| 08:43.59 | Ellipsis | art3mis: ...why, got something interesting? |
| 08:44.03 | art3mis | like litestep darkstep etc |
| 08:44.10 | art3mis | emerge 4.0 came out |
| 08:44.13 | art3mis | its perty |
| 08:44.17 | Ellipsis | o rly |
| 08:44.19 | art3mis | well clean crisp responsive |
| 08:44.21 | art3mis | yeah |
| 08:44.25 | Mikk | [iL]veresis: you probably got upgraded to the Rock version... go into settings and select "install dependencies" ..... or install cartographer1 to stay with the ace2 version |
| 08:44.29 | art3mis | marked performance improvement over 3.1 |
| 08:44.32 | Aens|Superiority | zoas: not really with the dodging. Some of us are good at it, but its always the handful that ruin it |
| 08:44.34 | Mikk | whichever you prefer |
| 08:45.32 | art3mis | sweet the added a scheme editor too to change the transperancy colours etc |
| 08:45.41 | art3mis | they |
| 08:45.45 | Ellipsis | interesting |
| 08:45.53 | ZealotOnAStick | You're playing a feral aren't, you? Hybrid class sort of like your PE? |
| 08:45.59 | Ellipsis | I'll check that out later |
| 08:46.13 | art3mis | that must hurt |
| 08:46.26 | neenee | art3mis, I was a litestep themer once |
| 08:46.30 | neenee | long ago |
| 08:46.35 | art3mis | neenee heh me too |
| 08:46.39 | art3mis | and darkstep |
| 08:46.48 | art3mis | and bb4winbblean etc |
| 08:47.00 | art3mis | emerge is kind of neat in that its so simplistic |
| 08:47.01 | neenee | :) |
| 08:47.02 | neenee | Yup |
| 08:47.04 | neenee | used them too |
| 08:47.04 | ZealotOnAStick | art3mis: are the screenshots of your new cycircled themes just sorta crappy, or do they all have that little ugly white bordering? |
| 08:47.07 | art3mis | its for a bar for VMM |
| 08:47.18 | art3mis | zealot hrm? |
| 08:47.23 | neenee | Never heard of VMM |
| 08:47.30 | art3mis | err vwm |
| 08:47.33 | neenee | I mean Emerge |
| 08:47.40 | neenee | apart from the gentoo thing |
| 08:47.51 | art3mis | a tray bar a task bar and a bunch of hotbouttons you can setup yerself |
| 08:48.00 | neenee | Hm. let me check |
| 08:48.02 | art3mis | its a win32 shell replacement |
| 08:48.03 | ZealotOnAStick | the screenshots for the . . . panda head, and the etc., - most of them looked like they had a little extraneous white border around the outside. |
| 08:48.05 | neenee | Though I do not mind the vista taskbar myself |
| 08:48.13 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: on wowi? |
| 08:48.18 | neenee | egh |
| 08:48.21 | neenee | 'emerge desktop'. |
| 08:48.24 | ZealotOnAStick | art3mis: yes |
| 08:48.33 | neenee | The desktop bit always makes me shudder, as if it's bloated |
| 08:48.37 | art3mis | neenee: task as in just a bunch of icons showing what tasks are running |
| 08:48.42 | neenee | like that Stardock desktop thing. Horrible |
| 08:48.52 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: its possible the pics suck balls |
| 08:49.05 | art3mis | but really i need to clean up the graphics a bit as well |
| 08:49.09 | art3mis | on the actual thing |
| 08:49.19 | art3mis | i made the mistake of reducing size THEN editing |
| 08:49.27 | art3mis | instead of vice versa on those |
| 08:49.28 | neenee | hm |
| 08:49.31 | ZealotOnAStick | pandas looks better now |
| 08:49.49 | neenee | Nah, I don't like it |
| 08:49.49 | art3mis | yeah still not quite right but definition definately gives it a better feel |
| 08:49.57 | art3mis | neenee: too simplistic? |
| 08:50.09 | neenee | No. no problem with simplistic |
| 08:50.14 | neenee | I was a minimalist with litestep |
| 08:50.30 | neenee | There's no system tray? |
| 08:50.32 | art3mis | what dont you like? |
| 08:50.40 | neenee | Oh wait, there is. |
| 08:50.48 | [iL]veresis | great now it works (checked default mode with externals), many thanks to ZealotOnAStick and Mikk |
| 08:50.50 | ZealotOnAStick | smurfs looks (in the screeny, I haven't actually tried these in-game) rough around the edges, and pirates in particular was the one I noticed, looks like it's got a little white edge around it. |
| 08:50.55 | art3mis | yeah it has a tray, taskbar(bbleanstyle) and VWM |
| 08:51.08 | art3mis | oh THAT |
| 08:51.20 | art3mis | yeah the pirates one is like that because o the image i used |
| 08:51.45 | art3mis | i wanted to see how it would work so i grabbed a semi decent one,, the white edge is because its a real steering wheel |
| 08:51.57 | art3mis | so you've got the actual light reflections |
| 08:52.12 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cycircled-art.jpg |
| 08:52.44 | art3mis | i need to redo the snurfs on as well |
| 08:52.46 | art3mis | smurfs |
| 08:52.59 | art3mis | and make it more hk style with just the cap and a blue circle |
| 08:53.22 | neenee | I'll give it a shot. |
| 08:53.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 08:53.29 | art3mis | i think HK ad cross look the best because of how they were edged |
| 08:53.44 | art3mis | and quality of the image |
| 08:53.44 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno, maybe giving it a black border, or a drop shadow or something, would make it look better. |
| 08:53.54 | art3mis | on pirates? |
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| 08:53.55 | neenee | A drop shadow won't work |
| 08:53.56 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, precisely, those two look way better than the rest. |
| 08:54.11 | neenee | Because images can't be partly transparent |
| 08:54.20 | neenee | I mean, parts of images can't be transparent |
| 08:54.25 | art3mis | yeah part of that is the way i did it, which shouldbe corrected in a day or so when id eo them |
| 08:54.54 | art3mis | pirates im gonna grab a compeltely different image so that i wont ahve to deal with shadow |
| 08:55.08 | art3mis | and smurfs im gonna redesign |
| 08:55.13 | art3mis | chochcat loks decent though |
| 08:55.42 | art3mis | chococat looks |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r633 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Coords can now have a space after the comma |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - A message will print to the chat frame if there are debug errors and tekDebug is present |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Added error checking for "fancy" quotes and apostrophes |
| 08:55.42 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - And of course, more guide data |
| 08:55.50 | CIA-12 | 03zhinjio * r51749 10/branches/SKG/ (40 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:55.50 | CIA-12 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 08:55.50 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.59 | neenee | chocolat is the bottom one, right? |
| 08:56.05 | art3mis | i may make up a set for helloween too with horns ghosts and spider legs, although the spiderlegs one is gonna be wierd as they might be too small normally to notice on most uis |
| 08:56.11 | art3mis | the black ears one |
| 08:56.16 | art3mis | the one with the bow is HK |
| 08:56.27 | art3mis | alestane did that one |
| 08:56.42 | art3mis | he's much gooder at art than i am |
| 08:56.47 | ZealotOnAStick | what, no jack o lanterns? |
| 08:57.04 | art3mis | but my main purpose for doing all of these is to "hopefully" get everyone else interested in creating more |
| 08:57.10 | art3mis | thats the punkins |
| 08:57.22 | art3mis | the oens taht mazzle said looked like lettuce patches ;P |
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| 08:57.35 | art3mis | the orange background |
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| 08:57.46 | art3mis | cant see it too well though because i fergot to resize it for screenie |
| 08:58.00 | ZealotOnAStick | ahh, can't really tell from that image size. I just knew it was in the Helloween pack. |
| 08:58.32 | art3mis | Hello(kitty)ween |
| 08:58.34 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:59.02 | art3mis | yeah this weekend im actually gonna take a bit of time now that ive gotten the gist of how it's setup for rapid changes |
| 08:59.13 | art3mis | and actually take some time to colour it better |
| 08:59.31 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r51750 10ItemDB/ (. ItemDB.toc ItemDB_DBFrame.lua Libs/): |
| 08:59.31 | CIA-12 | ItemDB |
| 08:59.31 | CIA-12 | - will now use LibInventory-2.1 |
| 08:59.31 | CIA-12 | - hope I didn't mess up externals... |
| 08:59.36 | art3mis | panda was a user request... dunno if it came out like he hoped |
| 09:00.33 | art3mis | omg sooooooo suuuuce <-- comment about pandas, so i suppose it's decent ;) |
| 09:00.52 | art3mis | ya know |
| 09:01.20 | art3mis | laugh |
| 09:01.26 | art3mis | aliset: wait til xmas ;P |
| 09:01.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Kitty. Hello Kitty. |
| 09:01.39 | art3mis | you think original HK made you wanna cut yer eyes? |
| 09:01.49 | aliset | bah. Xmas means hippopottamus. |
| 09:01.53 | art3mis | like a full on 007 ui? |
| 09:02.06 | art3mis | or just a cycircled theme |
| 09:02.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Something of both. I think there's enough fun things that could be done with it. |
| 09:02.45 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm trying to figure out what would be the best for the buttons, though. |
| 09:02.54 | art3mis | well |
| 09:02.55 | ZealotOnAStick | The rifled gun barrel tunnel from the intros . . . |
| 09:02.57 | ZealotOnAStick | or somethign else? |
| 09:02.59 | art3mis | if you can space it right... |
| 09:03.07 | art3mis | you could make it a complete image |
| 09:03.12 | aliset | WhiteTooth ever around? I've made a branch full of changes to TankPoints and don't want to be rude. |
| 09:03.18 | art3mis | then gun 007 logo |
| 09:03.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, I could see mirrored gun images on either side gracing the bottom portion of the UI |
| 09:04.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmmm. |
| 09:04.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Bond-watch Minimap texture! |
| 09:04.22 | art3mis | oooooooo |
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| 09:04.34 | art3mis | hehe do a search for cycircled on wowi |
| 09:04.52 | art3mis | oddly enough HK has a 3.94 the lowest rating of the lot |
| 09:04.54 | ZealotOnAStick | hmm. Or, the 2 female gun-holding silhouettes back to back for buttons . . . |
| 09:04.58 | art3mis | despite being the best ;P |
| 09:05.15 | ZealotOnAStick | that's just a knee-jerk reaction to those with taste but no sense of humor. |
| 09:05.15 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: it wouldnt be noticeable that small |
| 09:05.31 | art3mis | thats one of the issues im running into |
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| 09:05.45 | art3mis | things that would be GREAT just look like blotches small |
| 09:06.11 | neenee | er, can you accept DCC? |
| 09:06.12 | art3mis | neenee: my dcc doesnt work right ;P |
| 09:06.15 | neenee | ah. sec |
| 09:07.07 | neenee | http://legionoflore.com/bin/steering-wheel.zip |
| 09:07.08 | art3mis | what i would love is if seerah would get into the cycircled art biz |
| 09:07.13 | neenee | I'm not even sure if that's useful |
| 09:07.23 | neenee | But I did it anyway |
| 09:07.28 | neenee | It's probably toobig |
| 09:07.31 | neenee | or the palette is wrong |
| 09:07.51 | art3mis | heh lemme fire up gimp sio i can see them right |
| 09:08.01 | neenee | :) |
| 09:08.05 | neenee | Yeah, I ust the gimp too |
| 09:08.12 | neenee | Color to Alpha is great to remove white edges and such |
| 09:08.38 | art3mis | yeah |
| 09:08.42 | art3mis | actually that looks nice |
| 09:09.33 | art3mis | just needs to be a bit thicker so it's a touch more noticable |
| 09:09.44 | art3mis | but 64x64 is the standard size |
| 09:10.10 | art3mis | thats the other thing that i messed up resizing before editting |
| 09:10.19 | neenee | oki |
| 09:10.28 | art3mis | on a larger picture you get finer detail, letting you edit it more acurratly |
| 09:10.35 | neenee | I know |
| 09:10.42 | art3mis | yeah i fergot ;P |
| 09:10.50 | art3mis | which is why they all look rough |
| 09:11.02 | neenee | :) |
| 09:11.04 | art3mis | but they're all on the svn if you've got access and get bored ;P |
| 09:11.10 | art3mis | and wanna make em better |
| 09:11.12 | art3mis | heh |
| 09:11.18 | art3mis | or hell |
| 09:11.20 | neenee | I do not have access I think |
| 09:11.20 | Madmarv | ffs i need a name of a fucking song! |
| 09:11.21 | art3mis | make yer own! |
| 09:11.32 | art3mis | leech any of the ones from wau |
| 09:11.36 | neenee | Well, not using cycircles means less motivation :) |
| 09:11.45 | art3mis | the main files to chainge are the highlight and the overlay |
| 09:11.56 | neenee | yup, the rest is the same it seems in all |
| 09:11.57 | art3mis | heh yeah but once you find something thats sexy you'll start |
| 09:12.28 | art3mis | you can change the others to be more special like the glint and such but the default ones were pretty ncie so i elft em |
| 09:12.34 | art3mis | Madmarv: what song? |
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| 09:12.41 | art3mis | or rather type the lyrics |
| 09:13.24 | neenee | Nah, no need to touch those |
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| 09:13.56 | neenee | Hm |
| 09:13.59 | neenee | I have an idea though |
| 09:14.07 | neenee | How about a circle made up of a snake biting its tail |
| 09:14.13 | art3mis | oo nice |
| 09:14.22 | neenee | ouroboros :) |
| 09:14.43 | art3mis | if there was a way to bind two buttons together making an infinity sign would be neat too |
| 09:14.57 | [dRaCo] | guess it's already a known bug, but anyway: [2007/10/12 11:14:07-413-x6]: AutoBar-2.02.03.02 beta.38120\AutoBarClassBar.lua:478: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'signX' (a nil value) |
| 09:15.21 | neenee | :) |
| 09:15.33 | art3mis | thats the only thing i wish cycircled could do |
| 09:15.38 | art3mis | is "link" buttons |
| 09:15.43 | Trell_ | meh, I still can't char copy |
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| 09:20.02 | aliset | I'm feature-complete for some changes to TankPoints and have had some mild testing done. Any out there want to give a branch a shot and see if it blows up in their face? It'll be *awesome*, I promise. |
| 09:20.26 | aliset | (added Effective Health / Effective Health with Block numbers to TankPoints) |
| 09:25.56 | aliset | netsplit? |
| 09:26.07 | [AoC]Camci | is there an addon that logs your chat? |
| 09:26.14 | [AoC]Camci | not guild chat but party chat and whispers? |
| 09:26.25 | neenee | whispers there was, called ForgottenChat |
| 09:26.53 | [AoC]Camci | thanks will check :) |
| 09:26.55 | Trell_ | Elephant? |
| 09:27.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Elephant should. |
| 09:27.16 | Trell_ | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Elephant |
| 09:27.17 | [AoC]Camci | also i wondering if there was an addon that counted how many times you click when your playing, i heard there was sometghing like that? |
| 09:27.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Historian tracks all sorts of weird things. |
| 09:27.46 | ZealotOnAStick | there's also a JumpCounter or something. |
| 09:27.51 | [AoC]Camci | no im not a "clicker" :P just would be fun to see |
| 09:27.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno about clicks, though. |
| 09:27.56 | [AoC]Camci | heh :P |
| 09:28.03 | [AoC]Camci | will check that too |
| 09:28.14 | [AoC]Camci | cheers |
| 09:28.23 | aliset | ...is JumpCounter normalized for Night Elves? |
| 09:29.42 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 09:29.43 | Ellipsis | what? |
| 09:30.11 | Trell_ | zomg, there I was wishing that the char copy page would ctually work |
| 09:30.17 | Trell_ | s/ctually/actually/ |
| 09:30.21 | aliset | well, it's no good comparing the number of jumps between a dwarf and a night elf |
| 09:30.31 | Trell_ | and i logged in on the test realms just to see, and my char is already there :X |
| 09:30.37 | aliset | ...well, really just about anything and a night elf |
| 09:30.41 | Ellipsis | ...why? |
| 09:30.43 | aliset | they're just so naturally bouncy |
| 09:30.46 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 09:31.15 | aliset | you didn't include ellipses in that one. You make me sad. :-( |
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| 09:31.17 | [AoC]Camci | `` |
| 09:31.18 | [AoC]Camci | ^^ |
| 09:31.20 | orionshock | any way you can directly set the right side of a frame? |
| 09:31.40 | [AoC]Camci | waht kind of frame? |
| 09:31.42 | orionshock | or do we only get SetWidth() and SetHeig() |
| 09:31.43 | Trell_ | lol, Turbo Charged Flying Machine COntrol |
| 09:31.49 | Ellipsis | orionshock: anchor it |
| 09:31.56 | Nargiddley | set left and right points and it'll size to fit them |
| 09:32.04 | Ellipsis | aliset: sorry, my nick is a bit misleading at times |
| 09:32.34 | [AoC]Camci | anyone here tried Elephant ? |
| 09:32.36 | Ellipsis | contrary to popular belief I don't use ellipses in every message I send...just around 80% of them |
| 09:32.44 | Ellipsis | see, there's one now! |
| 09:32.52 | octothorpe | #ouch. |
| 09:33.03 | octothorpe | ;-# |
| 09:33.05 | Ellipsis | ~whaleslap octothorpe |
| 09:33.05 | purl | ACTION beats octothorpe upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 09:33.19 | orionshock | it's allready anchored |
| 09:33.30 | Nargiddley | anchor it more :P |
| 09:33.49 | Ellipsis | I think you just need a heavier anchor |
| 09:34.00 | orionshock | you can only set one anchor of a frame iirc |
| 09:34.06 | Nargiddley | no |
| 09:34.07 | Ellipsis | ...since when? |
| 09:34.16 | Trell_ | wth |
| 09:34.20 | Trell_ | quiver of a thousand feather |
| 09:34.27 | Trell_ | one of the mats is 99 light feather |
| 09:34.28 | orionshock | im trying to figure out why xloot is bitchie |
| 09:34.33 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:34.38 | Ellipsis | that sounds like some really dirty romance novel for arakkoa |
| 09:34.49 | Nargiddley | you could have 4 if you really wanted to |
| 09:36.12 | orionshock | i think ive got some of the xloot display issues "fixed" ... if you drag it to left side of the screen and then reloot it fixes it'self |
| 09:36.13 | french_spacing | "His beak glistened with masculine firmness. She preened herself, thinking of his call at night. His insane devotion lay only to his gods...and to her." |
| 09:37.55 | Trell_ | first time i pickpocketed [A Steamy Romance Novel] and read it, I nearly wet myself. |
| 09:38.07 | Ellipsis | I still haven't read it |
| 09:38.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Trell_: it could be worse, could be 1000 feathers to make it. |
| 09:38.10 | Ellipsis | no spoilers plz! |
| 09:38.17 | Trell_ | get a guildie to pickpocket you one |
| 09:38.25 | Trell_ | quite a high drop rate, and its damn funny |
| 09:38.36 | Ellipsis | I don't know my guildies |
| 09:38.41 | Ellipsis | they'd probably think I was a perv or something |
| 09:38.54 | Kerafyrm | hmmmm |
| 09:38.54 | Trell_ | ...oh wait |
| 09:38.57 | Kerafyrm | bear mount |
| 09:39.08 | Kerafyrm | engy mount mats are trivial... hehe |
| 09:39.13 | Kerafyrm | already have 90% banked |
| 09:39.14 | aliset | ...you aren't? Quick show of hands for pervs, please. |
| 09:39.34 | Trell_ | you seen the hunters disarming shot? |
| 09:39.47 | Kerafyrm | yeah |
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| 09:39.51 | Ellipsis | girls can't be pervs |
| 09:39.53 | Ellipsis | duh |
| 09:40.35 | orionshock | girls can be pervs ... it's just even creepyier than normal |
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| 09:41.11 | mykx | I'm downloading the PTR so I can check out the heroic badge stuff |
| 09:41.28 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51751 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Added commented todo block |
| 09:41.34 | orionshock | well... WoW + TBC = Fucked Game... |
| 09:41.42 | orionshock | thats how i saw it |
| 09:41.44 | Kerafyrm | hope you submitted your toon copy a long while ago |
| 09:41.45 | Trell_ | mykx: I'm already in your PTR, doing...stuff |
| 09:41.53 | mykx | lol :) |
| 09:41.59 | mykx | I like the game orionshock but then I never played pre BC |
| 09:42.07 | orionshock | well your a noob |
| 09:42.12 | orionshock | and that's ok |
| 09:42.24 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 09:42.28 | aliset | oh, see, that's a classic case of the feminine form in English. Many people think that English doesn't have a masculine or feminine form, but this is certainly not the case. In this case it's just a homonym: the feminine form of "perv" is pronounced "interesting" |
| 09:42.35 | mykx | you probably dislike in because your still in kara but it's ok |
| 09:43.15 | Ellipsis | yeah aliset...exactly |
| 09:43.22 | Trell_ | Skype meetings ftl, damnit im trying to get a group for ZA |
| 09:43.25 | orionshock | no mykx , i just don't like new-school raiders |
| 09:43.26 | Ellipsis | and ask anyone here, I'm quite an "interesting" gal |
| 09:43.38 | orionshock | their arrogant, stupid and just out right bad players -- on average |
| 09:43.38 | aliset | excuse me, it's a "homograph". Geez. It gets late at night and I pull stupid things like that. |
| 09:43.50 | Trell_ | although for some reason ZA isn't in the LFG tool, unless I'm missing somthing |
| 09:43.53 | Trell_ | *something |
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| 09:44.17 | aliset | hokay, I'll look for TankPoints guinea pigs another time then. Swell meeting you all. |
| 09:44.49 | mykx | orionshock: If it takes you 3+ years to learn to pve in wow then perhaps it's not your forte I don't know |
| 09:45.12 | orionshock | i learned to pve rather quickly |
| 09:45.26 | Trell_ | wow, lots of epeen in here this morning |
| 09:45.31 | orionshock | but there is something about the 40 man raid dynamic that beats the stupid out of some people |
| 09:45.40 | mykx | same here it doesn't take years to learn.. that's why your generalising bc raiders as "noobs" is silly |
| 09:45.47 | orionshock | not you ofc, but in general |
| 09:46.04 | orionshock | not all BC raiders are Noobs |
| 09:46.13 | orionshock | just a good majority are |
| 09:46.49 | Xinhuan | [10/12 17:40:58] <Trell_> although for some reason ZA isn't in the LFG tool, unless I'm missing somthing |
| 09:46.57 | orionshock | when i was doing kara with a newer guild - none of em had been to MC, and would not shut the fuck up on vent |
| 09:46.57 | mykx | I have heard from a lot of people that in the 40 mans you could have 10 people afk and still get shit done but who knows |
| 09:47.00 | Xinhuan | you mean, just like how Karazhan isn't in the LFG tool? |
| 09:47.09 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 09:47.18 | Xinhuan | because its "LFG" not "LFRaid" ;p |
| 09:47.27 | mykx | go to the "raid" part of the LFG |
| 09:47.30 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 09:47.31 | Ellipsis | in my experience tbc raiding guilds fail in general |
| 09:47.32 | mykx | unless they removed it |
| 09:47.39 | orionshock | they have no respect for the fact that in a raid - only 3 people need to talk, RL, MT, MainHeal |
| 09:47.46 | Trell_ | Xinhuan: Looking for more - Raid. |
| 09:47.47 | orionshock | and the rest need to STFU and learn |
| 09:47.50 | Trell_ | I rest my case. |
| 09:48.00 | Kerafyrm | *sigh* Cartographer got the shaft again in 2.3 |
| 09:48.01 | Xinhuan | ok :( |
| 09:48.03 | mykx | that's how my guild does things, stfu unless you're calling out something specific to the fight |
| 09:48.07 | Ellipsis | because they are either a) new to the game (or at least pve endgame) or b) formed by raiding rejects who were kicked for a reason |
| 09:48.12 | Xinhuan | clearly i haven't used the LFG panel before lol! |
| 09:48.47 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51752 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: updated todo. |
| 09:48.57 | Trell_ | Kerafyrm: how so? |
| 09:49.21 | Kerafyrm | http://ace.pastey.net/75188 |
| 09:49.52 | mykx | really though there's millions of players in wow you cant group em all together based on your experience of bad players meh time to go play ptr |
| 09:50.16 | Grum | maybe people should get a raid-rating :D |
| 09:50.23 | Grum | depending on how many raids you did to where .. ^^ |
| 09:50.37 | Grum | also combining your alts and chars on other servers |
| 09:51.19 | neenee | Only people who feel they need something else to use to prove themselves would want that though |
| 09:51.23 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51753 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Buffalo2: Merging trunk to branch |
| 09:51.31 | neenee | another e-peen extension |
| 09:51.51 | Trell_ | my raid rating would be abysmal then, only raided ZG a couple of times, and MC 4 or 5 times pre tbc. |
| 09:52.22 | Nimbal | Does anyone know by chance whether we can store functions in the SavedVariables? |
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| 09:52.38 | mykx | damn all the queues are full already for the ptr :( |
| 09:52.42 | neenee | Same here, once or twice some AQ. After that I levelled and after that raiding became more like a job to my guild than fun. |
| 09:52.44 | mykx | for character copy |
| 09:52.57 | Kerafyrm | ques were full about 10 min after the PTRs actually came up |
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| 09:53.07 | Kerafyrm | I got my 3 in about 30 min after 6pm pacific... |
| 09:53.23 | mykx | that sucks.. I'd imagine that the ptr will be up for about 3-4 weeks |
| 09:54.01 | Trell_ | mykx: EU? |
| 09:54.09 | mykx | us |
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| 09:54.24 | Trell_ | ah ok, i spent ages trying to copy my char, then logged in the PTR's and it was already there somehow |
| 09:54.29 | Trell_ | even though the char copy kept failing |
| 09:54.45 | mykx | well I mean the page is greyed out because the copy queue is full :( |
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| 09:56.35 | Calib | Hi |
| 09:56.43 | Borked|Raider | are people able to transfer chars to ptr? |
| 09:57.35 | Calib | Anyone knows how u set up hotkeys for ret pallys? |
| 09:57.43 | mykx | lol I had a feeling the engineering mount would look like a gyrocopter |
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| 09:58.12 | neenee | it's been confirmed? |
| 09:58.17 | Zhinjio | Who's awake that is relatively LibRock savvy? |
| 09:58.27 | Trell_ | neenee: theres pics of it already+ |
| 09:58.27 | mykx | yea |
| 09:58.30 | Trell_ | -+ |
| 09:58.38 | mykx | "Elite mobs outside of pre-Burning Crusade dungeons have been changed to non-elite." lol kinda pointless change but ok |
| 09:58.39 | neenee | Well, I've seen pics of a lot of things |
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| 09:58.46 | Trell_ | *cough* |
| 09:58.53 | Trell_ | I just bet you have. |
| 09:59.04 | orionshock | they are adding "Loot Owners" to the tool tips |
| 09:59.08 | mykx | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/engineemount.jpg |
| 09:59.11 | Trell_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/engineemount.jpg |
| 09:59.12 | Trell_ | bah |
| 09:59.13 | orionshock | i thought that was awsome |
| 09:59.14 | Trell_ | beat me to it |
| 09:59.15 | mykx | lol |
| 09:59.20 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51754 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (loottables.de.lua loottables.en.lua loottables.fr.lua): |
| 09:59.20 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:59.20 | CIA-12 | - Zul'Aman trash loot table created |
| 09:59.32 | neenee | Ah cool, that actually looks good. |
| 10:00.02 | Nimbal | "Loot Owners"? What's that supposed to be? |
| 10:00.09 | neenee | That's a very cool mount. |
| 10:00.13 | mykx | Mystical Skyfire Diamond: A cooldown has been added to this item's effect, but the chance for it to trigger has been increased. ahh well I knew they would change this eventually |
| 10:00.14 | Trell_ | so you know who to get to loot something |
| 10:00.21 | Trell_ | think skinning |
| 10:00.23 | Trell_ | as an example |
| 10:00.36 | Corgan | [23:59:55] <mykx> "Elite mobs outside of pre-Burning Crusade dungeons have been changed to non-elite." lol kinda pointless change but ok |
| 10:00.37 | Trell_ | Nimbal: Loot your damn mob so I can skin it, you fag! |
| 10:00.43 | Trell_ | example. |
| 10:00.46 | Corgan | allows people to solo elite quests |
| 10:00.53 | Nimbal | Ah... that's cool. |
| 10:01.03 | Grum | !i Mystical Skyfire Diamond |
| 10:01.04 | ThraeBot | Grum: Name: Mystical Skyfire Diamond; Rarity: Rare (Blue); Type: Consumable. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=25893 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25893 ]] |
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| 10:01.07 | neenee | er.. |
| 10:01.07 | mykx | heyy they nerfed kael thas perhaps we can kill him this week |
| 10:01.17 | neenee | Does that mean they changed the mobs inside the instances to non-elite? |
| 10:01.18 | neenee | Or what |
| 10:01.21 | Corgan | no |
| 10:01.22 | mykx | I mean when the patch comes out |
| 10:01.22 | Grum | mykx: they did? awww |
| 10:01.23 | Trell_ | no |
| 10:01.26 | Corgan | that's why it says outside |
| 10:01.28 | Trell_ | l2read :P |
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| 10:01.36 | Grum | omg .. not a nref to be best gem evar :'( |
| 10:01.52 | mykx | # All four advisors have had their health reduced by 10%. # All of the summoned weapons have had their health reduced by 10% |
| 10:01.55 | Grum | Corgan: not at all a useless change tbh |
| 10:01.57 | neenee | Yes |
| 10:02.00 | Corgan | I never said it was |
| 10:02.05 | neenee | But what instance has elite mobs outside an instance? |
| 10:02.09 | Corgan | .... |
| 10:02.16 | neenee | Dire Maul perhaps |
| 10:02.21 | neenee | But those are not exactly very tough |
| 10:02.23 | Ellipsis | uldaman comes to mind (god knows why) |
| 10:02.24 | Corgan | ok |
| 10:02.26 | mykx | mara, ulda, dm |
| 10:02.27 | Corgan | any mob |
| 10:02.33 | Corgan | in the world |
| 10:02.35 | Corgan | that is not in an instance |
| 10:02.36 | Grum | any elite mob is non-elite now if its not a special one ^^ |
| 10:02.43 | Corgan | has been changed to nonelite |
| 10:02.48 | Grum | aka: doing lots of quests will be easier |
| 10:02.54 | neenee | er.. |
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| 10:03.05 | neenee | egh.. |
| 10:03.08 | Corgan | the only reason they say "outside of instances" |
| 10:03.11 | neenee | All of them? That's stupid |
| 10:03.13 | Nimbal | Whoa. Maybe my guild can finally down Hogger then |
| 10:03.15 | Corgan | is because it doesn't include mobs that are inside of an instance |
| 10:03.27 | hoss777 | nub question... is it possable to get read only access to http://dev.wowace.com/wowace ? I would like to make a quick diff of something I'm working on. |
| 10:03.29 | neenee | Does that mean that quest-person in EPL, that undead with the dogs, will be non-elite too? |
| 10:04.05 | neenee | I wish they'd stop dumbing down the pre-70 game. |
| 10:04.15 | orionshock | hoss777: try svn.wowace.com |
| 10:04.15 | mykx | So now all of us without an epic flying mount can do 10 dailys a day, yay gold |
| 10:04.17 | neenee | It really cheapens the Azerothian experience |
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| 10:04.35 | Trell_ | anyone got a rogue on the ptr's yet? |
| 10:04.50 | hoss777 | thanks |
| 10:04.55 | Trell_ | im seeing something weird, and I hope its easily explained |
| 10:05.22 | Trell_ | Live: 23.73% crit chance, PTR's: 20.18% crit chance. |
| 10:05.37 | Ellipsis | probably due to teh weapon skill changes? |
| 10:05.49 | Trell_ | i sincerely hope not |
| 10:05.55 | Trell_ | losing 3% crit is no fun |
| 10:06.08 | Calib | Why lose crit? |
| 10:06.14 | mykx | they added expertise |
| 10:06.24 | mykx | you gain more hit |
| 10:06.28 | mykx | in place of a little crit ? |
| 10:06.35 | Trell_ | well, my hit 'rating' still says 254 |
| 10:06.39 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.51 | Ellipsis | don't we all |
| 10:06.52 | mykx | "Expertise: We have added a new stat and associated rating called expertise and expertise rating. Expertise rating converts to expertise at the same rate that weapon skill rating formerly converted at. Each point of expertise reduces the chance for your attacks to be dodged or parried by 0.25%." |
| 10:07.27 | orionshock | it's getting overly old on the forums |
| 10:07.45 | Calib | Wtf |
| 10:08.01 | Calib | That stat is pointless |
| 10:08.14 | Codayus | Calib: Uh...not at all. |
| 10:08.18 | cryogen | its very not pointless |
| 10:08.19 | cryogen | VERY not |
| 10:08.32 | Trell_ | im a retard, official. |
| 10:08.52 | orionshock | and why not just roll this "new" stat into weapon skill? |
| 10:08.53 | Trell_ | no talents spent. |
| 10:09.02 | mykx | hahaha |
| 10:09.12 | mykx | Trell you're a champ |
| 10:09.13 | cryogen | because weapon skill affects other stuff |
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| 10:09.21 | orionshock | cryogen: Point Being? |
| 10:09.25 | Codayus | orionshock:Weapon skill did other stuff, and was a really broken stat... |
| 10:09.26 | Trell_ | you mean chump, mykx |
| 10:09.30 | cryogen | seperating it out they let you increase other stats |
| 10:09.37 | cryogen | without becoming overpowered in the process |
| 10:09.38 | mykx | nah I did that before on ptr :( |
| 10:09.45 | Codayus | So a better question might be "why didn't they change what weapon skill did and ust keep the name... |
| 10:09.57 | orionshock | cryogen: .. better gear > worse gear ? |
| 10:10.06 | orionshock | dosn't matter shitty gear will lose |
| 10:10.09 | Codayus | But I guess changing the name too is less confusing. |
| 10:10.11 | Nimbal | Char copy is back up, btw |
| 10:10.19 | cryogen | "better" here lets you choose what is better about it |
| 10:10.20 | mykx | ty |
| 10:10.25 | cryogen | or adjust the price of "better" stats |
| 10:10.28 | orionshock | dosn't matter how you slice it |
| 10:10.35 | mykx | damn not for me nimbal |
| 10:10.47 | cryogen | weapon skill is weapon skill, now you cant increase it from gear |
| 10:10.51 | Nimbal | Strange |
| 10:10.53 | Calib | Check out my 1v2 video |
| 10:11.05 | Calib | Youtube search calibi |
| 10:11.35 | mykx | they added more honor for everything exept AV :) |
| 10:11.55 | Codayus | cryogen: Oh, heh, fine, that is a good reason. I've been 70 and/or playing casters so long I forget that you can HAVE a non-maxed weapon skill. |
| 10:12.37 | Trell_ | zomg the engineering mount looks awesome 'in the flesh' as it were. |
| 10:12.44 | cryogen | it just stops weapon skill being abused as a replacement for +hit |
| 10:12.53 | mykx | people have it already? damn |
| 10:12.56 | cryogen | and gives you a real replacement (or rather, enhancement) to hit |
| 10:13.14 | cryogen | so you get x% hit and y% thisnewstate and away you go |
| 10:13.21 | cryogen | s/state/stat/ |
| 10:13.43 | Codayus | You have to feel sorry for the poor dwarf/troll hunters though. From 3% hit to 1% crit. |
| 10:13.45 | cryogen | its sort of similar to penetration + spellhit |
| 10:13.51 | Codayus | (That being said, it was an OP racial.) |
| 10:14.02 | cryogen | servers their right for relying on overpowered racials :p |
| 10:14.07 | Codayus | Yar. |
| 10:14.13 | Trell_ | Grasp of the Moonkin, lol. |
| 10:14.20 | cryogen | racials arent really supposed to be a reason to choose a race |
| 10:14.28 | cryogen | they're supposed to be a nice addition to make your race unique |
| 10:14.41 | Codayus | Although I'm a bit sensitive about racials right now. With the new nelf, draeni, and dwarf racials, I think I now have the single weakest preist racial. :-/ |
| 10:14.45 | Calib | Gnomes:D |
| 10:14.51 | Codayus | <--- Human priest |
| 10:14.58 | Trell_ | shedloads of new heroic rewards |
| 10:15.03 | Calib | Night elves do |
| 10:15.06 | Trell_ | lots of trinkets with inc max health on use |
| 10:15.08 | Codayus | Trell_: Shedloads of freaking amazing ones. |
| 10:15.11 | Codayus | Calib: No. |
| 10:15.12 | Gagorian | The new priest racial seems quite imbalanced |
| 10:15.19 | cryogen | at least you get <font size=supertiny>useless</font>fear ward now! |
| 10:15.20 | Gagorian | A 2s stun with damage on a 30s cooldown? |
| 10:15.24 | Gagorian | sick |
| 10:15.32 | Trell_ | Cruelty: increases crit rating by 40, on use inc health by 1750 for 15s, 3m cd |
| 10:15.52 | Trell_ | 14 pages of heroic rewards now :X |
| 10:15.56 | Codayus | Gagorian: Yes. PvE = lol. PvP = wtf! |
| 10:16.00 | mykx | ah yeah I saw those on mmo champion. did they add any new haste rating caster gear |
| 10:16.04 | Calib | From where |
| 10:16.32 | Calib | Dropped from where |
| 10:16.41 | Trell_ | mykx: yes |
| 10:16.49 | Codayus | But that's okay, it's almost balanced versus nelfs. While I get...Feedback... /wrists |
| 10:16.49 | mykx | awesome :D |
| 10:16.51 | Trell_ | Pantaloons of Arcane Anihalation |
| 10:16.56 | Trell_ | 45 spell haste |
| 10:17.11 | Codayus | I'm going to take advantage of the faster leveling and reroll as a shaman, I swear. |
| 10:17.16 | Trell_ | Runed Spell Cuffs, 25 spell haste |
| 10:17.37 | Trell_ | seems legs are 45 haste, bracers 25 |
| 10:18.03 | mykx | hrm |
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| 10:18.15 | Gagorian | Codayus: Yeah, the PvP aspect is wtf indeed :D |
| 10:18.50 | Gagorian | 0.5s interrupt/stun in addition to fear and silence |
| 10:19.23 | Gagorian | And if it gains from spelldamage... well |
| 10:19.27 | Gagorian | NERF :D |
| 10:19.42 | Codayus | And then there's Starshards. |
| 10:20.00 | Codayus | Which will have a 100% coefficient by the normal rules... |
| 10:20.53 | Trell_ | i don't understand why names are: Name, Champion of the Naaru |
| 10:20.58 | Trell_ | looks weird |
| 10:21.04 | Codayus | Of course, spriest +hit talents won't apply. |
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| 10:28.22 | Trell_ | lol, BG daily quest: Win an Arathi Basin match. |
| 10:29.07 | cryogen | hah |
| 10:29.38 | Trell_ | where were the 'heroic' quests from? |
| 10:31.29 | Trell_ | ah found them |
| 10:32.17 | Trell_ | 24g reward for heroic ones, nice |
| 10:33.47 | Grum | nice |
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| 10:35.39 | Trell_ | some guy paid me 500g to sign his guild charter on the PTR o_O |
| 10:35.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 10:43.18 | Madmarv | roflol |
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| 10:44.40 | LAG|Domo | Is there an Ace-based trinket addon? |
| 10:44.45 | LAG|Domo | Like Trinket Menu, for example. |
| 10:44.54 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with Trinket Menu? |
| 10:45.17 | LAG|Domo | Nothing really |
| 10:45.19 | LAG|Domo | Was just wondering |
| 10:45.22 | cryogen | then dont change it :p |
| 10:45.27 | LAG|Domo | And it wasn't updated in 6 months |
| 10:45.28 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 10:46.12 | LAG|Domo | My FPS and memory use are horrible, so I'm rebuilding my interface and trying to only use mods that have been updated recently to try and root out the problem |
| 10:46.52 | Ellipsis | why don't you use an addon that profiles addon memory and CPU usage to see which ones are causing the problem? |
| 10:47.33 | LAG|Domo | I'm more concerned about FPS issues at the moment. |
| 10:47.44 | Fin | is there one that doesn't either show the first addon loaded in the list, or Ace2? |
| 10:48.10 | a^i`SmaN | and you think that trinket menu causes your pc to lag ? :D |
| 10:48.10 | Ellipsis | well CPU should account for that, LAG|Domo |
| 10:48.16 | Ellipsis | Fin - with embedded libs? there's no way :P |
| 10:48.41 | LAG|Domo | I don't think Trinket Menu causes it, but it's one of the many addons I use, and it hasn't been updated forever, so I'm cautious. |
| 10:49.06 | Fin | Ellipsis: with embedded libs, it'll show the first addon that loads with those libs (because all the other addons will be using that addon's copy of the functions), without embedded it'll show Ace2 as using most resources |
| 10:49.15 | Ellipsis | not necessarily Fin |
| 10:49.23 | Ellipsis | Ace2 is usually third in my list |
| 10:49.23 | Fin | if you know of a profiler that gets around this somehow, I'd love to know what it is |
| 10:49.33 | Ellipsis | there's no way to get around it |
| 10:49.39 | Ellipsis | Ace2 really *is* using that much memory |
| 10:49.49 | Fin | OK, sure, if there's another addon that's using up loads of memory or whatever it'll show up higher, but you know what I'm talking about |
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| 10:49.58 | Ellipsis | no, I'm not sure what you're talking about |
| 10:49.59 | Fin | I understand how it works |
| 10:50.09 | Fin | but you just explained it |
| 10:50.16 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 10:50.38 | Ellipsis | you want a profiling addon that ignores certain hard-coded things like frameworks to present it to stupid users in a useful way? |
| 10:50.39 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 10:50.43 | Fin | my point: profilers will not give you accurate results |
| 10:50.49 | Ellipsis | the results are accurate |
| 10:50.52 | cryogen | LAG|Domo: sometimes stuff doesnt need updating :p |
| 10:50.54 | Fin | whatever |
| 10:50.58 | Ellipsis | just not the way most people expect :P |
| 10:51.04 | Fin | seriously, whatever |
| 10:51.10 | cryogen | id be more worried about stuff that changes all of the time |
| 10:51.34 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, they arent accurate as in saying which addon is causing the memory usage |
| 10:51.58 | LAG|Domo | Anyone know any fps issues with ArcHud? As a rather graphic addon, will it affect much? |
| 10:52.06 | Ellipsis | well there's no way to know without building in profiling stuff to the framework |
| 10:52.19 | Nargiddley | you cant even know then |
| 10:52.21 | Ellipsis | currently every profiling addon I know is really just a frontend to Blizz's stats |
| 10:52.54 | Fin | jesus I fuckin hate it when discussions turn into little turd flinging matches like this, it's so stupid - I mean, sure, they're fun sometimes but haven't we all done it like five trillion times already? does it never get boring? |
| 10:53.15 | Fin | d'oh! I forgot |
| 10:53.17 | Fin | I'm on the Internet |
| 10:53.32 | nevcairiel | thats why i just ignore most of the stuff most of the people say in here |
| 10:54.42 | Ellipsis | wait, what did I do? |
| 10:55.07 | hoss777 | mmm... beer. |
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| 10:56.12 | Sole | Grum: ping pon |
| 10:56.25 | Sole | halo? |
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| 10:56.36 | starlon | How come this doesn't print "Loaded" like I thought it would? http://ace.pastey.net/75190 |
| 10:56.47 | Grum | Sole: pin pong |
| 10:57.25 | Sole | Grum: ok Im running in ubuntu |
| 10:57.46 | vhaarr | starlon: f:Show() |
| 10:58.18 | starlon | Tried that |
| 10:58.28 | nevcairiel | you cannot setscript OnLoad |
| 10:58.29 | Sole | Grum: small problem, that apt-get command you gave me for the nvidia drivers...yeah the terminal didnt like it |
| 10:58.42 | nevcairiel | OnLoad has already been fired when your frame is created |
| 10:58.49 | nevcairiel | you can only use OnLoad from XML frames |
| 10:58.53 | starlon | ah |
| 10:59.07 | Grum | Sole: sudo apt-get update ; apt-get search nividia |
| 10:59.11 | Grum | and look for a tutorial online :) |
| 10:59.11 | starlon | Well that stinks |
| 10:59.15 | Sole | hmm |
| 10:59.17 | Sole | k |
| 10:59.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: really? that's silly, it makes sense that OnLoad would first be called when a dynamically created frame is shown |
| 10:59.38 | Grum | *nvidia btw O.o |
| 10:59.40 | vhaarr | the first time it's shown, I mean |
| 10:59.54 | starlon | I've tried this with OnUpdate as well. When is that called? |
| 10:59.57 | vhaarr | but then again, not much makes sense |
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| 11:00.04 | vhaarr | starlon: after your frame is shown |
| 11:00.08 | LAG|Domo | What's the best HUD addon out there? |
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| 11:00.17 | Trell_ | i used to use Drathal's |
| 11:00.24 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: you can have OnLoad's for CreateFrame created frames ;-) |
| 11:00.24 | Trell_ | think its outdated, but still worked fine |
| 11:00.28 | Sole | Grum: yeah figured that. btw apt-get search = "Invalid operation search" |
| 11:00.34 | Trell_ | although it's not Ace2'ified |
| 11:00.37 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: in templates |
| 11:00.41 | JoshBorke | aye |
| 11:00.44 | Grum | what did you install O.o |
| 11:00.58 | Sole | something :P |
| 11:00.58 | starlon | Ok that worked lol |
| 11:01.06 | Grum | seriously |
| 11:01.10 | JoshBorke | sole: apt-cache search |
| 11:01.14 | m4rku5 | damn blizzard |
| 11:01.35 | Grum | you should add something to search for after the search ;D |
| 11:01.41 | Grum | its: apt-get search <STRING> |
| 11:01.48 | Fisker- | bah |
| 11:01.50 | starlon | How do I have an Init method then if I can't use OnLoad? |
| 11:01.52 | Fisker- | PTR keeps bugging on my character |
| 11:01.55 | Fisker- | but others are fine |
| 11:02.01 | Sole | Grum: Im not an idiot :P |
| 11:02.06 | Grum | humz |
| 11:02.09 | m4rku5 | Fisker-, i wish i could copy my char -.- |
| 11:02.10 | JoshBorke | starlon: do it in the function that creates the frame |
| 11:02.11 | nevcairiel | starlon: call it directly |
| 11:02.12 | Grum | i actually get that error as well on a debian box ..l ol :) |
| 11:02.20 | Grum | oh |
| 11:02.20 | Grum | duh |
| 11:02.23 | JoshBorke | Grum, Sole: you have to use apt-cache to search |
| 11:02.24 | Grum | it's apt-cache search :D |
| 11:02.27 | Grum | yes i'm sleeping |
| 11:02.29 | Grum | totally overlooked that |
| 11:02.34 | Sole | yeah apt-cache works |
| 11:02.34 | Trell_ | m4rku5 my main is on there, but i cant copy any of my lower alts, to test levelling :( |
| 11:02.40 | Fisker- | i only got one copy for some reason i didn't get 4 m4rku5 :( |
| 11:02.42 | Grum | sigh |
| 11:02.47 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 11:02.50 | starlon | Ah. Well I was all thinking events and stuff. Ok. Thanks man |
| 11:02.52 | Fisker- | totally useless change |
| 11:03.03 | m4rku5 | well i still have 4 |
| 11:03.08 | m4rku5 | keeps telling me server busy |
| 11:03.08 | Fisker- | "<name> seems a little tipsy from the <alcoholic beverage>" |
| 11:03.09 | Fisker- | come on |
| 11:03.10 | m4rku5 | blah blah |
| 11:03.17 | Fisker- | that was REALLY nessecary to show |
| 11:03.19 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: yea, OnLoad is called by CreateFrame ( if set in a template you inherit ), altho there is no point for setting a OnLoad script, since you can always run the code directly in your Lua.. :) If you want first show, use OnShow :P |
| 11:03.31 | m4rku5 | The service youre trying to access is too busy right now, please check back another time. |
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| 11:04.03 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I know, it just makes sense that it should be run automatically before the first show if not invoked previously |
| 11:04.32 | JoshBorke | why wouldn't it be invoked? |
| 11:04.42 | LAG|Domo | I feel silly for asking, but if I don't want the libraries as individual folders in my /interface folder, I install with or without externals? |
| 11:04.43 | CIA-12 | 03darchon * r51755 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua Outland/Maulgar.lua): BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 11:04.53 | nevcairiel | LAG|Domo: with |
| 11:04.57 | LAG|Domo | Thanks |
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| 11:09.32 | LAG|Domo | If I manually delete modules, from say, Pitbull, will they reappear when I next update? |
| 11:09.40 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 11:09.43 | LAG|Domo | meh |
| 11:09.45 | Ellipsis | just disable them at the character screen |
| 11:09.48 | Ellipsis | they'll stay disabled that way |
| 11:09.54 | LAG|Domo | Yeah |
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| 11:17.05 | Peragor | Has anyone noticed that some addons aren't getting new zips? |
| 11:17.21 | Ellipsis | which addons? |
| 11:17.42 | Fisker- | you could ping kaelten about it when he's here |
| 11:17.52 | Fisker- | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt |
| 11:18.05 | Fisker- | guess it's more than some addons |
| 11:18.05 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:18.09 | Ellipsis | that doesn't look good |
| 11:18.48 | Fisker- | it's python run for your lives! |
| 11:19.55 | Grum | lollerskates |
| 11:20.23 | Chompers | poo cube :< |
| 11:20.28 | Ellipsis | it's ok, everything will be fine |
| 11:20.28 | Chompers | *poor :O |
| 11:20.33 | Ellipsis | deep breaths, everyone |
| 11:20.51 | Fisker- | weird |
| 11:21.06 | Chompers | test 19 in portal was amazing |
| 11:21.09 | Fisker- | looks like they don't want boss-skipping |
| 11:21.26 | Speeddymon_ | damnit! where is pastamancer when files.wowace needs him? |
| 11:21.30 | Fisker- | ah i think i got it |
| 11:21.37 | Neebler | I plowed through portal. cant wait for user made mods for portal |
| 11:21.48 | Speeddymon_ | no addons are creating new zips.. |
| 11:21.49 | Ellipsis | want portal :( |
| 11:22.00 | Zhinjio | Can an addon specify multiple translations namespaces to the same language? |
| 11:22.03 | Speeddymon_ | wtf is portal? |
| 11:22.09 | orionshock | imho this problem with the files site is good for people... |
| 11:22.11 | Neebler | I kept thinking about how someone is going to make an "event horizon" map for portal. that game totally reminds me of it |
| 11:22.15 | Ellipsis | why would you do that, Zhinjio? o.O |
| 11:22.17 | orionshock | if your beta testing an addon - use SVN |
| 11:22.46 | Zhinjio | for example, I want one main set of translated texts called (SKGL) and one that is specific to help text stuff (SKG_Help) |
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| 11:22.53 | Zhinjio | I guess its silly. |
| 11:22.57 | Zhinjio | I can just use one. |
| 11:23.02 | Ellipsis | just put 'em all in one table, yeah |
| 11:23.14 | Zhinjio | I just like breaking code apart into meaningful chunks that are more easily digested. |
| 11:23.18 | Zhinjio | Feh |
| 11:23.48 | orionshock | Zhinjio: ... take a look at wowWiki on how they do what i call "Ghetto Locale" |
| 11:24.18 | Nimbal | Can someone think of a situation where you would want to display buffs from several units together? |
| 11:24.27 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 11:24.40 | Xinhuan | Nimbal: elaborate? |
| 11:25.18 | orionshock | Xinhuan: ie raid buff checking |
| 11:25.28 | orionshock | Zhinjio: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_addon_easily |
| 11:25.42 | orionshock | you could just specify different tables. |
| 11:25.43 | Zhinjio | looking... |
| 11:26.06 | JoshBorke | hey, i wrote that! :-D |
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| 11:26.16 | Nimbal | I'm brooding over a complementary addon for Buffalo2 in which the user can click custom buff containers together. And I'm wondering if it makes sense to allow the user to make a container that contains buffs from several unitids |
| 11:26.29 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:26.40 | Xinhuan | how would that be useful? |
| 11:26.50 | Ellipsis | I think it would be |
| 11:26.53 | JoshBorke | i just wrote the idea up, i got the idea from clad |
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| 11:26.59 | Ellipsis | maybe with sorting by unitid though |
| 11:27.13 | orionshock | it's a good idea, saves me time and effort trying to use AceLocale |
| 11:27.15 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r51756 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/ (FuBar_SoulJarFu.toc SoulJarFu.lua libs/): |
| 11:27.15 | CIA-12 | FuBar_SoulJarFu: |
| 11:27.15 | CIA-12 | - Removed rosterlib and SEA dependencies. It's lighter without and works better. |
| 11:27.28 | Ellipsis | amg, souljar getting some love :D |
| 11:27.48 | Zhinjio | I'm just being dumb. I'll use one table. Meh. |
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| 11:28.46 | Xinhuan | i just find it dumber to have to surround every string with L[" "] |
| 11:29.09 | Xinhuan | just use a global prefixed with your addonname and be done with it |
| 11:29.18 | Xinhuan | its still a table lookup |
| 11:29.35 | JoshBorke | how's that different from L? |
| 11:29.40 | JoshBorke | it's also more to write |
| 11:29.53 | JoshBorke | and it's "slower" |
| 11:30.24 | Xinhuan | perhaps so |
| 11:30.44 | Xinhuan | but not all localization data are necessary strings in that format |
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| 11:31.00 | doktoreas | hello everybody |
| 11:31.08 | Xinhuan | for example, GetItemInfo() returns strings that are localized |
| 11:31.18 | doktoreas | wich addon is the one that split damage done/recived in 2 columns? |
| 11:31.26 | Xinhuan | for itemType and itemEquipLoc |
| 11:31.30 | Ellipsis | EavesDrop, doktoreas |
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| 11:31.48 | doktoreas | Ellipsis, thanks |
| 11:31.52 | Xinhuan | so you will want localization tables to convert as necessary |
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| 11:31.59 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r51757 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/SoulJarFu.lua: |
| 11:31.59 | CIA-12 | FuBar_SoulJarFu: |
| 11:31.59 | CIA-12 | - And make a few global function calls local for faster access. yay. |
| 11:32.35 | Ellipsis | yay! |
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| 11:36.08 | orionshock | Xinhuan: ... using a global with your addon prefix is a sersious ghetto method , and IMHO looks bad in general |
| 11:36.28 | Xinhuan | only because you believe it to be |
| 11:36.30 | orionshock | and tbh is a bitch to track |
| 11:36.49 | Xinhuan | there isn't really any serious drawback or issue |
| 11:37.26 | nevcairiel | imho its a weird style polluting the global environment, but thats just me :) |
| 11:37.38 | Xinhuan | there's no harm to it really |
| 11:37.58 | nevcairiel | if the global table gets too big, lookups could slow down |
| 11:38.07 | Xinhuan | i suppose that is true |
| 11:38.16 | Xinhuan | but on the other hand, using tables for locaization |
| 11:38.24 | Xinhuan | means that if you aren't running the English client |
| 11:38.31 | Xinhuan | you will always have 2 tables in memory |
| 11:38.33 | orionshock | using tables is for sanity |
| 11:38.44 | Xinhuan | one for English locals and one for the locale you are acutally using |
| 11:38.49 | Xinhuan | actually* |
| 11:39.02 | nevcairiel | true |
| 11:39.03 | Xinhuan | so if you have a lot of localization strings, you increase memory use |
| 11:39.05 | orionshock | Xinhuan: not exactly |
| 11:39.18 | Xinhuan | while globals just overwrite |
| 11:39.21 | nevcairiel | but its basicly only the table |
| 11:39.24 | nevcairiel | the strings are the same |
| 11:39.29 | nevcairiel | so wont cause double memory |
| 11:39.32 | orionshock | you only have one table in use, the others will get GC'ed eventualy if done right |
| 11:39.33 | Xinhuan | you do realise that doing ['String 1'] = 'Localized string 1', |
| 11:39.37 | Xinhuan | causes both strings to be in memory? |
| 11:39.41 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:39.43 | Xinhuan | the english one AND the german one |
| 11:39.53 | Xinhuan | when only the german one needs to be loaded |
| 11:39.59 | Xinhuan | and garbage collect the english one |
| 11:40.01 | cryogen | standard coding pratice dictates everything is local until it needs to be global |
| 11:40.08 | cryogen | defaulting to global makes no sense |
| 11:40.16 | Xinhuan | standard coding practice isn't necessary optimal |
| 11:40.17 | nevcairiel | using ADDON_String_1 would in theory add ADDON_String_1 as string to the global table, no? |
| 11:40.20 | cryogen | regardless of if it has impacts or not |
| 11:40.29 | orionshock | defaulting to global only makes sense if you don't have to share it |
| 11:40.35 | Xinhuan | i don't know if it does nev |
| 11:40.57 | LAG|Domo | Anyone know the Dog Tag for changing colour based on PvP active or disabled? |
| 11:40.58 | Xinhuan | if i create a global variable called ABC, does it create the string "ABC" in memory, because the string is used as an index in _G? |
| 11:40.59 | nevcairiel | anyhow, screw locale altogether |
| 11:41.09 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.15 | mikma | screw you too |
| 11:41.37 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: how do you propose you have lookup tables without having 2 strings in them? |
| 11:41.49 | Xinhuan | my argument is flawed then |
| 11:41.51 | Xinhuan | and fails |
| 11:42.04 | Xinhuan | the only solution is to use integer indexes |
| 11:42.05 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 11:42.10 | Xinhuan | for localization haha |
| 11:42.13 | JoshBorke | yea, have fun with that ;-) |
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| 11:42.18 | JoshBorke | hm, i want string 7 here |
| 11:42.32 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 11:42.54 | Xinhuan | hack up a l337 sp33k language for numbers :) |
| 11:43.18 | Zhinjio | I'm going to assume I can use SetPoint on a dropdown menu since it inherits Region as well |
| 11:43.24 | Xinhuan | it could possibly even be done behind the scenes by acelocal! |
| 11:43.28 | Xinhuan | acelocale* |
| 11:43.35 | Zhinjio | er, wait. hmm. |
| 11:43.52 | Xinhuan | nvm that doesn't make sense hehe |
| 11:44.38 | Gagorian | Hmm |
| 11:44.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan |
| 11:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | is the addon done yet? |
| 11:44.55 | Xinhuan | which one? |
| 11:44.59 | sag_ich_nicht | TPS |
| 11:45.01 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 11:45.03 | sag_ich_nicht | *TSP |
| 11:45.06 | Xinhuan | trying to aim for a sunday release |
| 11:45.11 | sag_ich_nicht | \o/ |
| 11:45.12 | Gagorian | What dependency does prat modules lod helper need as of late? |
| 11:45.18 | Xinhuan | this is the TODO list |
| 11:45.19 | Xinhuan | http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/todo.txt |
| 11:45.24 | Xinhuan | on that addon |
| 11:45.25 | Gagorian | Complaining it's missing something but I can't really see what it could be. |
| 11:45.30 | Zhinjio | I hate dropdowns. |
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| 11:48.55 | Zhinjio | so all the other UIDropDownMenu function calls are like UIDropDownMenu_SetWidth (et al) |
| 11:49.04 | Zhinjio | there is no UIDropDownMenu_SetPoint? |
| 11:49.12 | Zhinjio | or should I just call that on the object itself? |
| 11:50.57 | Zhinjio | that worked. |
| 11:52.01 | Sole | you chose to work with dropdowns |
| 11:52.05 | Sole | thats where you went wrong |
| 11:52.07 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht, you can still checkout from branches and try it anyway |
| 11:52.33 | Zhinjio | yeah, that may very well be. |
| 11:52.44 | Zhinjio | Its just such a standard UI element in any other environment. |
| 11:52.48 | Zhinjio | blah. anyway. |
| 11:53.10 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht: or use this link http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Cartographer_Routes/WIP/Cartographer_Routes/ |
| 11:53.19 | Xinhuan | and save the 4 files in the appropriate places |
| 11:53.31 | Xinhuan | 3 files even, you don't really need embeds.xml |
| 11:53.31 | orionshock | nn all |
| 11:53.34 | Xinhuan | if you run standalone |
| 11:53.37 | Xinhuan | libraries |
| 11:54.29 | JoshBorke | aw, carto routes requires rock |
| 11:54.31 | JoshBorke | oh wells |
| 11:54.55 | Xinhuan | Rock is alright |
| 11:55.01 | Xinhuan | millions of people probably use it now |
| 11:55.26 | JoshBorke | probably |
| 11:55.43 | JoshBorke | but why don't youw ant anyone to fork it? |
| 11:56.02 | Xinhuan | only a small handful minority (guessing) actually still use the ace2 version |
| 11:56.14 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: i would recommend using the paladin pink for the line color |
| 11:56.17 | Xinhuan | grum doesn't want it forked |
| 11:57.32 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: is TSP.lua forkable? |
| 11:57.52 | Xinhuan | at the moment yes, until i change the liscense on it |
| 11:59.21 | nevcairiel | why would you do that? |
| 11:59.59 | Xinhuan | i have no issues with it being forked |
| 12:00.03 | Xinhuan | grum does :) |
| 12:00.09 | JoshBorke | it seems like TSP currently is a generic file that could be used for non-cartographer based routing |
| 12:00.23 | Xinhuan | actually it contains code that is specific to cartographer |
| 12:00.31 | Xinhuan | and this is stated so somewhere |
| 12:00.34 | JoshBorke | can you not have different licenses in different files? |
| 12:00.39 | Xinhuan | ya you can |
| 12:00.50 | Xinhuan | but there really isn't any other application that would use TSP in wow |
| 12:01.03 | Xinhuan | so making it a general lib isn't particularly useful |
| 12:01.24 | JoshBorke | sure, but are you going to change it to be more restrictive i guess is my real question |
| 12:01.27 | nevcairiel | nah, but just keep it GPL or some other open license, so if we wanted to provide routes for Cartographer1, we could do so |
| 12:01.29 | JoshBorke | you implied that you were |
| 12:01.49 | Xinhuan | grum doesn't mind improvements i think |
| 12:01.59 | Xinhuan | he just doesn't want it forked to ace2 |
| 12:02.05 | Xinhuan | or another framework |
| 12:02.11 | nevcairiel | screw him |
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| 12:03.19 | JoshBorke | *sigh*. it's Grum's prerogative to want to enforce rock for carto_routes. it's Xinhuan's prerogative to license TSP.lua however he wants. |
| 12:04.05 | neenee | Isn't rock obligatory for Cartographer anyway? |
| 12:04.05 | JoshBorke | i don't think anyone should say "screw him" just because a developer chooses what license he wants to use |
| 12:04.08 | Xinhuan | for speed purposes though, there are stuff that is inlined coded inside TSP.lua that should really have been function calls to Carto_Notes |
| 12:04.23 | JoshBorke | neenee: no, there is a CartoAce which is a branch from the cartographer tag |
| 12:04.35 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: yes, but a fork of TSP.lua could change those to work with any other mod |
| 12:04.38 | neenee | Oh I see. |
| 12:04.45 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: if the license permits it |
| 12:04.46 | Xinhuan | of course |
| 12:04.58 | Xinhuan | even then, the algorithm itself is public knowledge |
| 12:05.03 | Xinhuan | anyone can implement it |
| 12:05.10 | JoshBorke | yea, but why redo all the work ;-) |
| 12:05.37 | Xinhuan | can you think of any application that would use TSP? ;p |
| 12:05.43 | Xinhuan | any other application in wow |
| 12:05.44 | JoshBorke | CartoAce_Routes |
| 12:05.51 | Xinhuan | apart from that |
| 12:05.58 | Xinhuan | which is the same application really |
| 12:06.01 | JoshBorke | nope |
| 12:06.16 | JoshBorke | i'm not saying you should do the work |
| 12:06.26 | JoshBorke | i'm saying i would like to see the option for SOMEONE to do the work available |
| 12:06.53 | JoshBorke | right now it is, but you implied that at some point in the future it might not be |
| 12:06.53 | Xinhuan | tbh, the only rock specific stuff in Routes, is the aceoptionstable for the config |
| 12:07.27 | JoshBorke | and i've been mispronouncing prerogative for the last 10 years |
| 12:07.35 | JoshBorke | or however long i've known the word |
| 12:07.55 | Grum | JoshBorke: it will not be forked *ever* |
| 12:08.03 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51758 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 12:08.03 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:08.03 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
| 12:08.12 | Grum | you can talk to me about features you might want but there will be no forking |
| 12:08.26 | JoshBorke | Grum: i'm not asking to fork your Carto_Routes |
| 12:08.32 | JoshBorke | Grum: I'm asking to have access to TSP.lua |
| 12:08.41 | Grum | nope |
| 12:08.54 | JoshBorke | Grum: pretty sure your name is NOT under the copyright on the file |
| 12:09.06 | Grum | give me a sec and i put it up |
| 12:09.17 | ramoz | Grum is a meanie! |
| 12:09.28 | neenee | JoshBorke, is that Cartographer1? |
| 12:09.30 | Grum | nah i just have principles |
| 12:09.45 | JoshBorke | neenee: i guess so. CartoAce is just based on Ace2 |
| 12:09.46 | ramoz | j/k mate |
| 12:09.54 | neenee | JoshBorke, ok |
| 12:09.55 | nevcairiel | the wrong principles for Open Source development imho |
| 12:10.04 | Borked|Raider | Mace Specialization (rogue version) is now 5 ranks, each rank increases mace critical strike damage by 1% and 1% chance to stun for 3 sec. It looks like the Expertise talent is now universal and not based on weapon type, so the old +2 skill per rank was changed to 1% crit damage bonus. |
| 12:10.09 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: as you said, in your opinion |
| 12:10.18 | harldephin | anything new from AutoBar ?.. seems like unfinished since it's been Rock'd |
| 12:10.21 | Grum | JoshBorke: what are your intentions? |
| 12:10.39 | JoshBorke | Grum: my intentions are obviously to at some point implement a similar module for CartoAce |
| 12:11.23 | Grum | the problem with CartoAce vs Cartographer is purely the configuration screen right? |
| 12:11.24 | JoshBorke | grum: and the more belligerent you are the more likely I am to start working on it sooner |
| 12:11.29 | [AoC]Camci | is PTR up for EU ? |
| 12:11.30 | JoshBorke | grum: no, not for me |
| 12:11.35 | Nargiddley | Grum: not at all |
| 12:11.44 | Xinhuan | i think, grum, even if you were to copyright the whole thing and not allow forking, someone would just write a copy of it that does the same thing |
| 12:11.49 | Xinhuan | Consider CT_MailMod vs Postal |
| 12:11.54 | nevcairiel | [AoC]Camci: yes its up |
| 12:11.59 | Xinhuan | then postal was requested to be removed, so |
| 12:12.05 | Xinhuan | something else was written in its place.. Gmail? |
| 12:12.10 | nevcairiel | other way around |
| 12:12.12 | nevcairiel | gmail was removed |
| 12:12.14 | nevcairiel | postal emerged |
| 12:12.17 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 12:12.23 | Grum | Xinhuan: sure but that at least makes sure people will not come and bother me with their petty problems because stuff isn't working |
| 12:12.27 | [AoC]Camci | nevcairiel: you can move char and sruff? i heard it was not avilable or something ? |
| 12:12.31 | Grum | and they failed to see its actually 2 different addons |
| 12:12.41 | nevcairiel | [AoC]Camci: char copy is down, but the PTR itself is up |
| 12:13.05 | Xinhuan | well it would be called CartoAce_Routes as opposed to Cartographer_Routes |
| 12:13.10 | Xinhuan | so it would be obviously 2 different addons |
| 12:13.18 | Grum | yeah, now count the morons in the world :) |
| 12:13.19 | [AoC]Camci | oh ok... well... PTR itself up wont do any much help if char copy is down :P |
| 12:13.27 | nevcairiel | and tbh, if we have to create it from scratch, we would still name it CartoAce_Routes |
| 12:13.29 | nevcairiel | and voila |
| 12:13.33 | nevcairiel | still people bug you :P |
| 12:13.46 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 12:13.47 | [AoC]Camci | XD |
| 12:13.48 | Grum | but i think we can make/allow a compatibility module in Cartographer_Routes |
| 12:14.03 | Grum | there is likely more to support than 'ace' version |
| 12:14.03 | JoshBorke | which would still require rock |
| 12:14.11 | Grum | not really |
| 12:14.19 | Grum | we can split that out easily |
| 12:14.21 | Xinhuan | from my personaly point of view though, it makes sense to provide support to a larger audience than a smaller one |
| 12:14.28 | Xinhuan | personal* |
| 12:14.31 | Grum | i want to finish the addon first btw |
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| 12:14.57 | baer_ | moin. |
| 12:14.59 | Xinhuan | at least, until it reaches a stage where it becomes unfeasible to do so |
| 12:15.14 | Grum | atm the worldmap drawing and minimap drawing is completely -rock-less |
| 12:15.51 | Grum | we'd have to think on how to implement this |
| 12:16.02 | Grum | and i'm even quite unsure if you can package a rock and ace version in 1 thing |
| 12:16.11 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar did it for Prat |
| 12:16.17 | Xinhuan | he has a whole bunch of IF THEN ELSE code |
| 12:16.23 | Xinhuan | for different frameworks |
| 12:16.24 | nevcairiel | does Carto_Routes use any libs that base Carto does not use? |
| 12:16.29 | nevcairiel | (any rock libs, that is) |
| 12:16.36 | Xinhuan | yes nev |
| 12:16.40 | Xinhuan | GraphLib |
| 12:16.41 | Grum | it depends on RockConfig a lot |
| 12:16.42 | Xinhuan | and Tourist |
| 12:16.49 | Grum | and Babble-* |
| 12:16.58 | nevcairiel | babble is not rock |
| 12:17.01 | nevcairiel | its agnostic |
| 12:17.08 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:17.13 | JoshBorke | graphlib is ace |
| 12:17.21 | JoshBorke | dunno about tourist |
| 12:17.28 | Grum | agnostic as well i think |
| 12:17.29 | Xinhuan | grum, the only part of the code that uses rock is the config part |
| 12:17.32 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:17.37 | Livid` | anyone reccomend any addon for removing the blizzard art from the toolbars ?, tried Alar art remover but doesnt seem to work |
| 12:17.40 | Xinhuan | can easily write a second function that generates a different aceopt table |
| 12:17.40 | Grum | and some :print mixins |
| 12:17.42 | nevcairiel | tourist is there for both |
| 12:17.44 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:17.50 | Grum | but i rather have it seperately |
| 12:17.57 | Xinhuan | i already converted that whole part of the code so its "standalone" |
| 12:18.10 | Grum | nevcairiel/JoshBorke: is the problem that rock gets loaded? |
| 12:18.14 | Xinhuan | can just have a IF THEN ELSE part in OnInitialize() |
| 12:18.21 | Grum | that wont prevent the rock libs from loading |
| 12:18.35 | nevcairiel | Grum: i dont want to install rock just to get routes :o |
| 12:18.43 | JoshBorke | what nev said |
| 12:19.10 | Xinhuan | can you provide some insight as to why you don't wish to run Rock? my curiosity |
| 12:19.20 | Grum | well lets chat when it's finished now we can combine both rock and ace in 1 package without loading rock |
| 12:19.27 | JoshBorke | for me it's mainly a personal desire |
| 12:19.37 | JoshBorke | in all honesty it is not rooted in any sort of logical argument |
| 12:19.48 | nevcairiel | same :P |
| 12:19.56 | Grum | worsecase we seperate the 'core' out of Cartographer_Routes and put it in LibRoutes and have 2 addons using it |
| 12:20.44 | JoshBorke | Grum: all I've been looking for was a way to have Routes without using rock. now that I see you are not opposed to that I won't be tempted to fork it |
| 12:21.00 | Grum | because seriously, DrawMinimapLines works without rock and so does DrawWorldMapLines |
| 12:21.13 | Xinhuan | TSP.lua itself doesn't use any framework, that can be seen plainly by it having its own table recycling (lol) |
| 12:21.17 | Grum | JoshBorke: i'm open for discussion but i do not want duplicated code in any way |
| 12:21.21 | neenee | Hm |
| 12:21.42 | Grum | and forking == duplicate code and therefor namebase sharing and therefor stupid users larting the wrong addon-person when stuff breaks |
| 12:21.45 | neenee | Using that Ace2 version of Cartographer decreases the memory used by addons from 10.5 to 9.5MB |
| 12:21.55 | JoshBorke | neenee: rofl |
| 12:22.04 | nevcairiel | i didnt even know that it did that |
| 12:22.06 | JoshBorke | neenee: people had the opposite effect when using Rock |
| 12:22.06 | Xinhuan | neenee, only because you load 1 framework instead of 2 heh |
| 12:22.15 | Grum | yeah hehe |
| 12:22.29 | Grum | dont forget most Cartographer modules still use Ace |
| 12:22.30 | JoshBorke | not necessarily, he could still be using Pitbull or FuBar |
| 12:22.43 | neenee | I do not use Pitbull nor Fubar |
| 12:22.44 | Grum | JoshBorke: let us finish it first |
| 12:22.52 | Grum | then we can chat about making this nice and working |
| 12:22.59 | Xinhuan | but do understand that some parts of ROck makes some libraries unnecessary, such as LibROckConfig making Waterfall or Niagara obsolete |
| 12:23.05 | Xinhuan | so in a way |
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| 12:23.09 | Xinhuan | you can save memory |
| 12:23.12 | neenee | But Waterfall is still used. |
| 12:23.20 | neenee | by Baggins I think |
| 12:23.22 | Xinhuan | well niagara then |
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| 12:23.35 | Xinhuan | can't spell today heh |
| 12:23.44 | Zhinjio | Is there a way to change the ... well, lets say color of a single word in the middle of a fontstring? For example, to emphasize it or whatever? |
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| 12:23.51 | Zhinjio | make it bold, italics, etc? |
| 12:23.55 | Nargiddley | I'd probably use waterfall for everything i could anyway heh |
| 12:23.57 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: no |
| 12:23.58 | Grum | I can tell you what I dont want btw, i dont want to have 2 codebases in 1 file, it has to be seperated somehow. You can have full control over the 'other file' but with that the responsibility to keep it in sync with the rock version |
| 12:24.08 | Zhinjio | k |
| 12:24.10 | Xinhuan | you can only change the color using |cAARRGGBB |
| 12:24.15 | Xinhuan | and |r resets it |
| 12:24.20 | Zhinjio | color is good enough! |
| 12:24.22 | neenee | nardiggley, same here if that was an option. It seems more flat. |
| 12:24.33 | Zhinjio | AA? alpha? |
| 12:24.38 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:24.43 | Xinhuan | yes alpha |
| 12:24.46 | Zhinjio | danke. |
| 12:24.47 | Xinhuan | ARGB is the format used |
| 12:24.52 | Grum | Xinhuan: you also agree on that btw? ^^ |
| 12:25.03 | Xinhuan | oh i don't particularly care grum |
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| 12:25.08 | wu-nix | hello |
| 12:25.14 | Grum | good :D |
| 12:25.18 | Grum | i just want clean code |
| 12:25.21 | Xinhuan | as long as proper credit is given where due :) |
| 12:25.25 | Xinhuan | and not code stolen |
| 12:25.29 | Grum | yup |
| 12:25.35 | Grum | duplicate code == death to people |
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| 12:25.56 | JoshBorke | i don't believe i've used any code without giving credit first |
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| 12:26.20 | kenlyric | eh, stealing a good function is better than writing a crappier version yourself. just give credit. |
| 12:26.24 | Grum | JoshBorke: that is not really my problem, the thing is, i hate users and people, thus i want the contact as little as possible |
| 12:26.26 | JoshBorke | i'm fundamentally against that |
| 12:26.32 | Grum | having a fork completely trashes that :) |
| 12:27.01 | kenlyric | there's a reason code is given a public license. |
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| 12:27.08 | kenlyric | *some |
| 12:27.12 | Xinhuan | also Skinner just skinned my addon WoWEquip... so i can't rename my frames anymore without breaking it ;p |
| 12:27.23 | Grum | Xinhuan: just rename them |
| 12:27.25 | JoshBorke | break it anyway? |
| 12:27.29 | Grum | and see how fast they update |
| 12:27.32 | Grum | and then revert the change |
| 12:27.35 | Grum | and see how fast they update |
| 12:27.37 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 12:27.40 | Xinhuan | evil |
| 12:27.40 | Grum | and then see how fast they contact you |
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| 12:27.49 | kenlyric | does serpent flesh not drop anymore. |
| 12:27.51 | kenlyric | fuck a duck |
| 12:28.07 | Ellipsis | no thanks |
| 12:28.08 | Grum | nah, its called 'please contact me first if you do something to my frames so we can come to an agreement that i will not change the framenames' |
| 12:28.16 | Xinhuan | the ducks are eternally afraid of you now kenlyric |
| 12:28.18 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: it just drop for you? |
| 12:28.18 | Ellipsis | ducks tend to be quite ungrateful |
| 12:28.24 | bluspacecow | anyone else having trouble logging in ? kept stopping at the "authenticating" stage |
| 12:28.32 | Grum | hehe talking about duck, we have a 'Lame Duck' rank in our guild ^^ |
| 12:28.35 | kenlyric | JoshBorke: not from windserpents or the AH for a week. |
| 12:28.39 | Grum | annoying people get put in there .. it cant talk in /g ^^ |
| 12:28.42 | bluspacecow | manged to login to the PTR's and got a latency of 6958 |
| 12:28.50 | Xinhuan | i can't even copy my char |
| 12:28.51 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 072.3 * r51759 10Bartender3/: Bartender3: branch for 2.3 |
| 12:28.53 | Xinhuan | they stopped copies |
| 12:29.02 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: copy is broken, of course. |
| 12:29.05 | Xinhuan | the queue is now 5 days long |
| 12:29.15 | bluspacecow | i used a new character ...wanted to try a pally ;) |
| 12:29.19 | nevcairiel | i have a char on ptr \o/ |
| 12:29.30 | Xinhuan | the 2.2.3 chars are wiped |
| 12:29.43 | nevcairiel | i copied mine yesterday, when the PTR was officially still 2.2.3, but obviously after the wipe |
| 12:29.43 | Madmarv | need to know a name of a song, if anyone saw the movie insane warriors? |
| 12:29.52 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 12:29.55 | Xinhuan | i should have done that |
| 12:29.57 | bluspacecow | yep that's logical ...each time they close the PTRs they wipe them |
| 12:30.04 | Grum | ah well does 2.3 have any drastic UI changes? |
| 12:30.08 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 12:30.08 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 12:30.10 | nevcairiel | some yea |
| 12:30.13 | Grum | yej :( |
| 12:30.14 | nevcairiel | check forums |
| 12:30.15 | kenlyric | I have six chars between 22 and 27. |
| 12:30.15 | Xinhuan | major changes to AH system, Mail system |
| 12:30.24 | Grum | aah yes i read about that |
| 12:30.30 | Grum | now we can *finally* have decent AH scanners |
| 12:30.31 | Zhinjio | ok, thats exactly the kind of text hilighting I wanted. THanks. |
| 12:30.33 | kenlyric | npc gossip system got some changes too. |
| 12:30.38 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r51760 10Talented_Data/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: bugfix in talent tooltip generation, exposed by Call of Thunder. |
| 12:30.45 | Xinhuan | and uh you won't need automaton for a heap of things anymore |
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| 12:30.51 | Xinhuan | made obsolete |
| 12:30.52 | Grum | Xinhuan: nice :) |
| 12:30.53 | kenlyric | a module or two out of automaton gets to go away. |
| 12:31.03 | Grum | Automaton was only a 'this stuff should have been bloody in the game already' |
| 12:31.04 | Grum | ooooh |
| 12:31.12 | Xinhuan | they are adding class colouring and stuff |
| 12:31.15 | bluspacecow | will we be able to have auctioneer work through its scan data while not at the AH ? |
| 12:31.18 | Xinhuan | as well to several panes |
| 12:31.22 | Grum | i need to make an addon that prevents using 'ESC' as closing button on a summon window .. anyone? :D |
| 12:31.32 | weab | Grum: 100% correct |
| 12:31.36 | JoshBorke | bluspacecow: yep |
| 12:31.41 | weab | i'm happy if they make automaton obsolete :p |
| 12:31.45 | kenlyric | they're removing Plate - Back :( |
| 12:31.48 | Xinhuan | grum, can't do that without tainting i think |
| 12:31.54 | Nargiddley | you can |
| 12:31.57 | Grum | you can |
| 12:31.58 | bluspacecow | <big sparkly eyes> ...Josh I love you |
| 12:31.58 | kenlyric | I was hoping for armorclass specific cloaks. |
| 12:32.09 | Nargiddley | how do you detect that a summon dialog is up ? |
| 12:32.23 | JoshBorke | bluspacecow: you'll have to talk to the auctioneer devs to see if that's what they plan also |
| 12:32.23 | Grum | you'd have to hook OnShow for the StaticPopups and check if it has a summon dialog up |
| 12:32.26 | bluspacecow | look for a frame called "SummoningFrame" ? |
| 12:32.29 | Gagorian | kenlyric: The idea of a plate cloak is hilarious though :D |
| 12:32.30 | Grum | nope |
| 12:32.30 | Xinhuan | hmm StaticPopup check on whether a certain table is open? |
| 12:32.41 | Grum | is 'StaticPopup1-4' |
| 12:32.42 | kenlyric | Gagorian: yeah, I know. But a mail cloak isn't |
| 12:32.43 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:32.47 | kenlyric | and neither is a leather cloak. |
| 12:32.56 | Gagorian | Yeah those are more reasonable |
| 12:33.07 | Grum | the times i've seen that kill my summon |
| 12:33.13 | kenlyric | actually, I think there are leather cloaks |
| 12:33.15 | Grum | walking into a bank, closing it .. DAMMIT i just got my summon |
| 12:33.30 | Xinhuan | as a habit, i always use my mouse to physically click on the X button |
| 12:33.38 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:33.39 | Xinhuan | so it isn't an issue for me |
| 12:33.39 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/2-3-ptr-patch-notes/ |
| 12:33.46 | Xinhuan | or just walk away |
| 12:33.47 | Grum | or mailwindow .. also a classic |
| 12:33.47 | bluspacecow | forums appear to be down atm |
| 12:33.55 | weab | kenlyric: in beta there were armor class specific cloaks |
| 12:33.57 | bluspacecow | at least for me |
| 12:34.05 | weab | i don't think there were plate cloaks |
| 12:34.12 | weab | but cloth, leather and mail all existed |
| 12:34.14 | Xinhuan | weab, are you the same weab that was on worldofwar? |
| 12:34.18 | weab | yes |
| 12:34.21 | Grum | i'll look into that when _Routes is done hehe |
| 12:34.24 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 12:34.38 | Xinhuan | remember me? ;p |
| 12:34.42 | weab | wee you one of my weabcam viewers :p |
| 12:34.44 | weab | *were |
| 12:34.49 | weab | actually |
| 12:34.50 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 12:34.53 | weab | yeah your name is familiar |
| 12:34.53 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 12:34.55 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6474 |
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| 12:35.02 | weab | you hung out in the worldofwar channel didn't you |
| 12:35.10 | kenlyric | leather cloaks should have more armor. |
| 12:35.13 | weab | along with ion and hobble and those hippies |
| 12:35.26 | Xinhuan | i did everything on http://mage.worldofwar.net if you rememeber |
| 12:35.30 | Xinhuan | hobble did the priest one |
| 12:35.37 | weab | been a long time |
| 12:35.59 | Nargiddley | Grum, hook CloseSpecialWindows and return true if you dont want things to close. It would prevent anything being closed not just the Summon tho |
| 12:36.19 | bluspacecow | http://www.worldofwar.net/characters/mage/index.php |
| 12:36.24 | Grum | i'll just remove the esc modifier from that single frame |
| 12:36.44 | Grum | (and put it back after it closes ofc ^^) |
| 12:36.51 | Nargiddley | that would taint |
| 12:36.58 | Xinhuan | i still think it will cause taint, because it taints the execution path for something inside UIParent.lua? |
| 12:37.02 | Nargiddley | nah |
| 12:37.44 | Nargiddley | CloseWindows calls CloseSpecialWindows with securecall? so taint isnt passed on |
| 12:37.48 | Grum | or .. |
| 12:37.49 | Grum | lol |
| 12:38.00 | Xinhuan | ah Nargiddley, yes that makes sense |
| 12:38.17 | Xinhuan | so you only need to modify the Summon staticpopup table to change a flag |
| 12:38.19 | Grum | i could just do: /script StaticPopupDialogs["CONFIRM_SUMMON"].hideOnEscape = 0 |
| 12:38.21 | Xinhuan | from true to false |
| 12:38.30 | Grum | ^^ |
| 12:38.37 | Grum | just checked the code hehe |
| 12:38.40 | Grum | easy ^^ |
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| 12:39.15 | Xinhuan | so much for a 1 line addon |
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| 12:39.53 | kenlyric | anyone have a clue why Mark of the Sunfury is listed as a buff, seems to do buff-like things, is given by an NPC, and dispels with mend pet? |
| 12:40.12 | Grum | Xinhuan: i'll make a complete fubar-ace-rocked addon for it |
| 12:40.37 | Xinhuan | do you think that is necessary? cos i don't think it is |
| 12:40.42 | Grum | hehe ofc not ^^ |
| 12:40.51 | Xinhuan | none of the carto modules ever needed a fubar for it ;p |
| 12:40.54 | Grum | prolly just make it a Automaton module :) |
| 12:41.07 | Xinhuan | oh you mean the summon one |
| 12:41.09 | Xinhuan | loL! |
| 12:41.10 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:41.12 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:41.15 | hoss777 | Anyone know if there is a way to solve the issue that I'm having here? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366687281&sid=1 |
| 12:41.32 | Grum | i think the url ideed too long to type hoss777 |
| 12:41.36 | Hjalte | both worldofraids and mmo-champion are down? |
| 12:41.39 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r51761 10Talented/ (Locales/enUS.lua Locales/frFR.lua ui/base.lua viewmode.lua): Talented: Show the number of talent points available |
| 12:42.31 | hoss777 | Grum: huh? can you not see the whole url? |
| 12:42.41 | Xinhuan | hoss777, sounds like a wow API issue? |
| 12:42.56 | Xinhuan | no workaround for it |
| 12:43.04 | hoss777 | that's what I thought. |
| 12:43.06 | Xinhuan | without writing code to handle it i think |
| 12:43.07 | Grum | make a better API :) |
| 12:43.29 | hoss777 | No can do Grum I'm no Drv :'( |
| 12:43.35 | Grum | Drv? |
| 12:43.44 | hoss777 | dev that is |
| 12:43.51 | Grum | well, become one! |
| 12:44.15 | starlon | Does lua short circuit "if false and true"? |
| 12:44.28 | dreamss | lol? |
| 12:44.29 | weab | why would it? |
| 12:44.30 | Grum | yes |
| 12:44.35 | Grum | it does |
| 12:44.39 | starlon | thanks |
| 12:44.42 | Grum | weab: that is needed |
| 12:44.45 | Gagorian | The first condition is enough to make it not proceed :P |
| 12:44.58 | Grum | if table and table.index for example |
| 12:45.03 | starlon | right |
| 12:45.18 | Grum | else you would get table no index blabla nil value blablabla |
| 12:45.46 | Grum | or: if table and type(table) == "table" and table.index |
| 12:45.52 | Grum | to be completely waterproof :D |
| 12:46.22 | Grum | mm i wonder if you can address the first index through table.1 ^^ |
| 12:46.27 | Xinhuan | uh |
| 12:46.33 | Xinhuan | you wouldn't need the "table" check |
| 12:46.36 | Xinhuan | if you use type(table) |
| 12:46.43 | vhaarr | type is nil-safe |
| 12:46.53 | Xinhuan | because type(table) will return "nil" if it is nil |
| 12:46.58 | vhaarr | assert(type(nil) == "nil") |
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| 12:48.25 | Grum | huh |
| 12:49.03 | Grum | > a = 1 |
| 12:49.03 | Grum | > if a and a.index then print("ok") end |
| 12:49.03 | Grum | stdin:1: attempt to index global 'a' (a number value) |
| 12:49.23 | Grum | > if a and type(a) and a.index then print("ok") end |
| 12:49.23 | Grum | stdin:1: attempt to index global 'a' (a number value) |
| 12:49.28 | Grum | > if a and type(a) == "table" and a.index then print("ok") end |
| 12:49.28 | Grum | > |
| 12:49.35 | Grum | seems to me you need the =="table" |
| 12:49.47 | Xinhuan | i'm saying you don't need the very first check |
| 12:49.51 | Xinhuan | to even check if a exists |
| 12:49.55 | Grum | ooooh |
| 12:50.07 | Xinhuan | because type(nil) returns the string "nil" |
| 12:50.09 | Grum | good one |
| 12:50.10 | Grum | indeed :D |
| 12:50.16 | weab | where did this conversation come from, i'm lost |
| 12:50.27 | kenlyric | sixth circle |
| 12:50.49 | weab | and short circuit must mean something different to you than it does to me |
| 12:50.53 | Zhinjio | aw man. I'm really happy with the way this is turning out. |
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| 12:51.51 | starlon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-circuit_evaluation |
| 12:52.49 | Xelopheris | So WoW is runnable from an external drive like, say, my iPod, correct? |
| 12:53.07 | Xelopheris | man my networking lab today is going to be fun :) |
| 12:53.24 | Xinhuan | yes it is runnable |
| 12:53.30 | Xinhuan | but the loading time wouldn't be nice |
| 12:53.39 | Xinhuan | server may disconnect you if you take too long |
| 12:54.32 | Xelopheris | USB2.0 connection > a laptop 5400 RPM HD, the new ipods are apparently 7200 rpms |
| 12:54.49 | Ellipsis | yeah, if I can load without disconnecting an ipod should have no problems |
| 12:55.11 | Xinhuan | hmm whats the speed limit on a USB2.0 connection? |
| 12:55.32 | Xelopheris | erm, USB 2.0 > my very fragmented 5400 RPM laptop HD |
| 12:56.02 | Xelopheris | 480 Mbit/s |
| 12:56.35 | Xinhuan | and whats the limit on a 5400 rpm + IDE cable? |
| 12:56.36 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 12:56.44 | dreamss | about the same |
| 12:56.49 | dreamss | 30-40MB/s |
| 12:56.54 | nevcairiel | i suppose a bit above that |
| 12:57.03 | nevcairiel | but still, usb-2.0 should work |
| 12:57.08 | Grum | ^^ |
| 12:57.08 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51762 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: updated some 'if table and type(table)=="table"'-logic |
| 12:57.13 | Xelopheris | well, I'm off, let's see if this works :) |
| 12:57.23 | Xelopheris | otherwise I will be VERY bored |
| 12:57.27 | dreamss | get HDTACH |
| 12:57.30 | Grum | bad bad Xinhuan that you didn't fix that! |
| 12:57.33 | dreamss | its a good benchmark tool |
| 12:57.45 | Xinhuan | i only fixed actual bugs :o |
| 12:58.09 | Xinhuan | you also haven't commited the fix to carto_notes |
| 12:58.16 | Ellipsis | your mom is an actual bug |
| 12:58.17 | Ellipsis | tbvh |
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| 12:58.40 | Grum | Xinhuan: you can do that |
| 12:58.52 | Grum | as i said it needs more time from my side to investigate the real problem at hand |
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| 12:59.00 | Xinhuan | that requires me to checkout, read code in 10000 lines and then commit it |
| 12:59.02 | Grum | the 'why was it dont this way in the past' |
| 12:59.10 | Grum | s/dont/done |
| 12:59.16 | Grum | same for me? :) |
| 12:59.22 | Xinhuan | you've already read the code |
| 12:59.27 | Xinhuan | i haven't, that's the difference ;p |
| 12:59.38 | Grum | you are bad at sucking! |
| 12:59.42 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 12:59.45 | Ellipsis | I can give lessons |
| 12:59.50 | Grum | you suck at it as well Ellipsis |
| 12:59.51 | Ellipsis | for a small fee |
| 12:59.58 | Xinhuan | sucking lessons pls |
| 13:00.22 | Grum | thats going to make fun pics ^^ |
| 13:00.56 | weab | i could introduce you to my gay friend if you want sucking lessons. |
| 13:01.02 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 13:01.06 | Grum | btw xin this codechange actually meant i could stripe 1 whole indentation level from my minimap drawing code! |
| 13:01.15 | Grum | that means 800bytes smaller code! rawr :D |
| 13:01.25 | Xinhuan | in the first place |
| 13:01.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: lol |
| 13:01.32 | Xinhuan | i don't understand why you use SPACES instead of TABS |
| 13:01.34 | Xinhuan | to indent |
| 13:01.46 | Xinhuan | i manually press SPACE SPACE SPACE SPACE SPACE SPACE SPACE SPACE to indent your code |
| 13:01.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: stop thinking that "goto considered harmful" is a good book. |
| 13:01.53 | Grum | exactly for the way you use tabs |
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| 13:02.01 | Xinhuan | tabs are 1 byte |
| 13:02.01 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 13:02.03 | sag_ich_nicht | -book +read |
| 13:02.03 | Xinhuan | spaces are 4 bytes |
| 13:02.14 | Grum | i like bigger |
| 13:02.16 | Grum | i know girls |
| 13:02.18 | Grum | see! i am right |
| 13:02.26 | Xinhuan | you can change the tab width setting in most editors you know |
| 13:02.36 | Grum | yes and you are doing it wrong while using tabs |
| 13:02.39 | Grum | you use tabs to allign text as well :) |
| 13:02.41 | Grum | WROOOOOONG |
| 13:02.49 | Grum | =) |
| 13:02.49 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 13:02.52 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 13:02.53 | sag_ich_nicht | get a proper editor, grum. |
| 13:02.57 | neenee | er.. 'All old world dungeons have had their loot revisited. Players will |
| 13:02.57 | neenee | now find that all loot dropped inside instances will be of Superior |
| 13:02.57 | neenee | quality.' |
| 13:03.03 | sag_ich_nicht | and use tabstops with 4 spaces width for a tabstop |
| 13:03.07 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: it is proper ^^ |
| 13:03.09 | sag_ich_nicht | and use a fixed width font for coding. |
| 13:03.12 | neenee | Another dumbing-down of instances :| |
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| 13:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | neenee die in a fire |
| 13:03.27 | Xinhuan | using tabs is standard because they are displayable on any editor |
| 13:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | that change is GOOD |
| 13:03.29 | Xinhuan | using spaces isn't |
| 13:03.43 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, will you be my special friend? |
| 13:03.46 | Grum | you cant see spaces? :D |
| 13:03.48 | tig | holy war between tabs and spaces ;) |
| 13:04.00 | nevcairiel | tabs are the real deal! |
| 13:04.01 | Xinhuan | meh you brought it up about 800 bytes less! |
| 13:04.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: that depends on your definition of special friend. |
| 13:04.15 | weab | tab space can differ from editor to editor |
| 13:04.15 | Grum | Xinhuan: like that mattered hehehe |
| 13:04.18 | Ellipsis | it's like a friend...just...y'know |
| 13:04.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: just find and replace 4 whitespaces with tab |
| 13:04.22 | Xinhuan | although i do understand that if i deleted every single ";" from my WoWEquip.lua, it would be 1659 bytes less |
| 13:04.23 | Ellipsis | *special* |
| 13:04.23 | weab | and some let you choose how big the tab is |
| 13:04.27 | sag_ich_nicht | no i don't know |
| 13:04.27 | neenee | Well, hopefully it'll mean getting a group for old instances is easier, but still.. it reeks of rushing people to Outland |
| 13:04.30 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: WROOOOOOOOONG |
| 13:04.31 | sag_ich_nicht | explain in great detail |
| 13:04.32 | weab | so it can format differently |
| 13:04.34 | nevcairiel | i have my tab set to 2 |
| 13:04.39 | weab | spaces you don't have that problem |
| 13:04.39 | nevcairiel | and use tabs everywhere |
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| 13:04.40 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:04.48 | weab | not that i'm advocating spaces |
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| 13:04.51 | weab | tab ftw |
| 13:04.51 | Ellipsis | but I can't sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | FOUR SPACE TABS OR BUST |
| 13:04.56 | Ellipsis | I has to go to bed soon =[ |
| 13:04.57 | Grum | if you use tabs, only use tabs for indentation and not for allignment |
| 13:05.00 | Xinhuan | so is anyone advocating not using ";" to end statements? |
| 13:05.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis you never sleep |
| 13:05.04 | weab | but my point is, i could see a reason for using spaces. |
| 13:05.05 | sag_ich_nicht | don't lie :D |
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| 13:05.11 | Ellipsis | yeah but my bf says I should |
| 13:05.12 | Grum | Xinhuan: i code perl so it comes naturally :) |
| 13:05.22 | pb_ee1 | Is there an addon that lets the user put a custom picture at the bottom of the screen? |
| 13:05.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you should punch your bf then. |
| 13:05.35 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 13:05.38 | sag_ich_nicht | pb_ee1: eepanels2? |
| 13:05.40 | Grum | pb_ee1: eepanels2? |
| 13:05.41 | weab | semicolons are the devil |
| 13:05.43 | bluspacecow | ee panels pb_ee1 |
| 13:05.53 | sag_ich_nicht | beat you to it Grum :P |
| 13:05.57 | pb_ee1 | d'oh! thanks you three ;) |
| 13:05.58 | Grum | i let you |
| 13:05.59 | bluspacecow | damn got beaten to the punch ;( |
| 13:06.01 | Ellipsis | semicolons make me feel better |
| 13:06.08 | Grum | Ellipsis: ; |
| 13:06.09 | Ellipsis | if I see a line without a semicolon it just feels incomplete |
| 13:06.09 | kenlyric | eeshards? |
| 13:06.13 | Ellipsis | like someone forgot to finish their sentence |
| 13:06.15 | kenlyric | damn, so close! |
| 13:06.28 | Ellipsis | better luck next time |
| 13:06.30 | sag_ich_nicht | so you consider all your dialog incomplete Ellipsis? |
| 13:06.37 | Ellipsis | most of it; |
| 13:06.38 | kenlyric | ~cookie |
| 13:06.41 | Grum | surely, else she would have to disconnect |
| 13:06.48 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76) |
| 13:06.55 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, I <3 you though; |
| 13:07.05 | Grum | haha |
| 13:07.11 | pb_ee1 | PTRs are up, but cannot copy a character since the server is "too busy" :( |
| 13:07.18 | Grum | love but at the same time the end of it .. how beautifully mean |
| 13:07.30 | weab | semicolons are ugly and pointless |
| 13:07.36 | bluspacecow | pb_ee1 : i cant even login ...was going to try a new character on there |
| 13:07.45 | pb_ee1 | no worries here |
| 13:07.46 | Xinhuan | the copy queue says 5 days |
| 13:07.46 | Xinhuan | so |
| 13:07.47 | pb_ee1 | (pve server) |
| 13:07.53 | bluspacecow | yep yep |
| 13:07.59 | pb_ee1 | 1 day here |
| 13:08.05 | pb_ee1 | i'm playing in Europe |
| 13:08.14 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:06] <Ellipsis> sag_ich_nicht, I <3 you though; <--i hear that all the time, yet i'm still lonely. :(; |
| 13:08.17 | Grum | i got 'server too busy' :D |
| 13:08.21 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-133-221.student.uu.se) |
| 13:08.25 | Xinhuan | clearly europe has a smaller player base |
| 13:08.29 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: how can I help?; |
| 13:08.30 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: touch yourself at night |
| 13:08.34 | dreamss | shes not in love |
| 13:08.39 | pb_ee1 | anybody knows where to get some graphics for eepanels? |
| 13:08.39 | dreamss | just loves u |
| 13:08.52 | Ellipsis | actually I am in love, just not with sag_ich_nicht :( |
| 13:08.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:08] <Ellipsis> sag_ich_nicht: how can I help?; <--i dunno, lol; |
| 13:08.55 | Grum | pb_ee1: the internet |
| 13:08.56 | bluspacecow | pb_ee1 "shared media ?" |
| 13:09.16 | pb_ee1 | grum, thanks, i was asking about a precise website that was doing this |
| 13:09.23 | pb_ee1 | bluspacecow, already installed, i'll try that |
| 13:09.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:08] <Grum> sag_ich_nicht: touch yourself at night <--why suggest the obvious, fool? |
| 13:09.30 | Ellipsis | wowtextures.com or something |
| 13:09.42 | Ellipsis | indeed, who doesn't? |
| 13:09.45 | Ellipsis | speaking of which |
| 13:09.52 | Ellipsis | I think I'm going to go to bed now |
| 13:09.56 | Grum | Ellipsis: is it night now ? :D |
| 13:09.56 | pb_ee1 | yup, wowtextures, thanks Ellipsis ! |
| 13:09.57 | Grum | hehe |
| 13:10.12 | Grum | Ellipsis: so what do you do during the nights you dont sleep and sit here on irc? O.o |
| 13:10.21 | Ellipsis | er...I sit here and IRC |
| 13:10.32 | Grum | explains the slow typing we've experienced |
| 13:10.35 | weab | why don't you sit there touching yourself and tell all the perverts here about it. |
| 13:10.36 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 13:10.39 | weab | that's what they're all thinking. |
| 13:10.51 | Ellipsis | I don't do that while IRCing |
| 13:10.56 | dreamss | lol |
| 13:10.56 | Grum | what? typing? |
| 13:11.00 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 13:11.14 | Madmarv | elli is a female? :D |
| 13:11.18 | dreamss | why does it become aol chatroom when females are around? |
| 13:11.18 | Ellipsis | ....yes |
| 13:11.34 | Grum | dreamss: that is how she wants it |
| 13:11.36 | Madmarv | oh wow |
| 13:11.39 | Madmarv | cool, girls rock |
| 13:11.39 | Grum | i get poked with lines to say :( |
| 13:11.40 | Ellipsis | Grum: it is? |
| 13:11.49 | weab | dreamss: horny nerds, you have to ask? |
| 13:11.54 | dreamss | omgz females on irc! sigh |
| 13:12.01 | dreamss | its so 10 years ago : |
| 13:12.03 | Ellipsis | I only wish I could be treated like an equal without hiding my gender |
| 13:12.10 | kenlyric | dreamss: is it very shocking that most of them hide the fact? |
| 13:12.19 | Grum | Ellipsis: you would actually in my book :) |
| 13:12.23 | dreamss | i know several that do |
| 13:12.29 | dreamss | pisses me off |
| 13:12.44 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:11] <dreamss> why does it become aol chatroom when females are around? <--because these are all desperate nerds in here. it's sad. |
| 13:12.44 | Grum | its just that you kinda show/push-out your gender in your own 'advantage' ^^ |
| 13:12.57 | dreamss | heh |
| 13:13.04 | dreamss | nerds are idiots |
| 13:13.06 | Ellipsis | and any female who actually admits to it is labeled an "attention whore" whenever she's talkative, where a guy is just seen as being, y'know, talkative |
| 13:13.21 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss: i agree |
| 13:13.23 | dreamss | heh |
| 13:13.36 | kenlyric | the first person I met on the internet was a female, not just that a female who had kids my age. And that was 13 years. I've always believed in the specter of women on IRC. |
| 13:13.40 | Grum | Ellipsis: being talkative and constantly saying 'she' or letting know in any other ways you are a girl would be marked like that yes ... |
| 13:13.53 | kenlyric | errr, irc, not the internet. |
| 13:13.55 | Ellipsis | Grum: am I supposed to refer to myself with male pronouns? |
| 13:14.01 | Megalon | http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/1204/dzv7233m_jpg.htm |
| 13:14.03 | Grum | yes! ;D |
| 13:14.04 | dreamss | attencion whore = chick posting pics to get special treatment |
| 13:14.05 | Grum | blend in ! =D |
| 13:14.06 | dreamss | ehh |
| 13:14.19 | Ellipsis | it's not like I go out of my way to point out I'm female in every conversation |
| 13:14.37 | kenlyric | almost always, it's somebody else pointing out that she's female |
| 13:14.45 | weab | why do you need to refer to yourself in any pronoun other than me or i |
| 13:14.50 | weab | talk in third person a lot? |
| 13:14.55 | Ellipsis | I use "her" in a /me or something and everyone goes "LOL WUT UR FEMAEL?!" |
| 13:14.56 | kenlyric | and then 10 minutes of us having this exact conversation. |
| 13:15.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you are being way too flirtatious to most of the people in here. you're like a stealth attn whore, and you probably don't even realise it :) |
| 13:15.11 | weab | fair enough. |
| 13:15.17 | dreamss | lol |
| 13:15.22 | dreamss | stealth attn whore |
| 13:15.22 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I am somewhat offended by that comment |
| 13:15.27 | Ellipsis | I flirt, so what? |
| 13:15.30 | Ellipsis | guys flirt with me too |
| 13:15.35 | Ellipsis | you don't call them attention whores |
| 13:15.39 | Grum | pfew |
| 13:15.49 | nevcairiel | but this is a channel about coding, not about flirting :P |
| 13:15.49 | Ellipsis | nod @ kenlyric |
| 13:16.06 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel, you can flirt while discussing code. |
| 13:16.11 | kenlyric | yeah, I've never flirted with nev. |
| 13:16.13 | Grum | dammit i though this was a dating channel where you could use WAU to download upgrade to your chick! |
| 13:16.16 | kenlyric | ck though, he's hot. |
| 13:16.20 | Xinhuan | lets make a new channel |
| 13:16.23 | Xinhuan | #wowflirt |
| 13:16.25 | Grum | wowhawt? |
| 13:16.32 | kenlyric | #wauflirt |
| 13:16.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: 1. you are engaged 2. these are nerds with near no social interaction, they are desperate, and they can't judge this as well with a lot of social interaction. what you do is just give them fales hopes, and neither side realises it. stop it. |
| 13:16.33 | dreamss | #wowhookup |
| 13:16.40 | Ellipsis | I what? |
| 13:16.47 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: srsly, since you started chatting here, its getting way too off-topic all the time :P |
| 13:16.51 | Ellipsis | wait, who proposed to me while I wasn't paying attention? |
| 13:16.51 | Grum | hehe |
| 13:16.55 | Grum | blame Ellipsis ! |
| 13:17.02 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: I'm sorry - I'm aware of it, but I don't know how I'm supposed to help that |
| 13:17.04 | dreamss | nerds need hope |
| 13:17.09 | dreamss | like fatchicks need love |
| 13:17.10 | dreamss | :P |
| 13:17.14 | Grum | or chocolate |
| 13:17.26 | weab | irc without off topic is no longer irc |
| 13:17.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: nobody, this is just a very easy to see cause/reaction thing |
| 13:17.42 | Ellipsis | but yuo said I was engaged |
| 13:17.46 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:17.50 | Grum | you said you were hawt |
| 13:17.53 | Ellipsis | I did? |
| 13:18.02 | dreamss | she is? |
| 13:18.07 | Ellipsis | I am? |
| 13:18.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: oh blame my english teacher. |
| 13:18.21 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 13:18.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Stupid Aussie Women |
| 13:18.33 | purl | stuffs Stupid Aussie Women into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 13:18.34 | kenlyric | so essentially, she's a flirt because she said <3 and someone else pointed out she was a girl. |
| 13:18.34 | weab | in any nerd's mind's eye you're hot until proven not |
| 13:18.38 | weab | at which point you're no longer interesting |
| 13:18.44 | kenlyric | does that make me a flirt when I tell a dev I want to have his babies? |
| 13:18.53 | Ellipsis | yep kenlyric |
| 13:19.02 | dreamss | this is getting hot |
| 13:19.05 | kenlyric | cause, you could try all you want but I can't *actually* have your babies |
| 13:19.09 | weab | depends, are you gay? |
| 13:19.12 | Xinhuan | no it makes you a baby stealer |
| 13:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | depends |
| 13:19.14 | Grum | kenlyric: ooh you can |
| 13:19.15 | Chompers | hot man on developer action |
| 13:19.17 | sag_ich_nicht | you seen Junior? |
| 13:19.20 | dreamss | girls get wild on irc! |
| 13:19.21 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 13:19.26 | Grum | at least we can try .. a million times |
| 13:19.29 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss i suggest we leave |
| 13:19.54 | Grum | yeah lets fraps this channel O.o |
| 13:20.03 | kenlyric | Grum: as I was told once on IRC "we haven't gotten pregnant once, but we keep pluggin away at it." |
| 13:20.19 | Grum | :D |
| 13:20.45 | dreamss | soooo lua.. got any of it? |
| 13:20.54 | Grum | yeah she's from russia |
| 13:21.06 | kenlyric | so speaking of this not at all, I got a picture of a naked chick yesterday in my job. |
| 13:21.20 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait. |
| 13:21.27 | kenlyric | some girl sent another girl a completely nude pic in order to call the girl fat. |
| 13:21.34 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:21.35 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 13:21.36 | kenlyric | now *that's* an attention whore |
| 13:21.50 | Ellipsis | hay how'd yuo get a hold of that kenlyric |
| 13:21.54 | kenlyric | cause, a normal person would just, you know, say "you're fat" |
| 13:21.55 | Ellipsis | I want my pictar back RIGHT NOW |
| 13:22.06 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: the second girl reported it. |
| 13:22.11 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:22.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i want my SMTP mirroring system back |
| 13:22.20 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 13:22.26 | nevcairiel | was she hot? |
| 13:22.26 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | we caught all the traffic and duplicated it to an extra machine :X |
| 13:22.41 | dreamss | "i see" "it looks like a probl.." "brb" |
| 13:22.52 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: reasonably well proportioned. |
| 13:22.55 | kenlyric | no face. |
| 13:23.00 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 13:23.15 | dreamss | sag, did u use spliced eth wire |
| 13:23.19 | Grum | kenlyric: stop looking @ boobies |
| 13:23.20 | dreamss | so u can only sniff? |
| 13:23.22 | kenlyric | it was a self-taken cell phone pic, so kinda blurry. |
| 13:23.40 | nevcairiel | cellphones need HD cams |
| 13:23.42 | kenlyric | Grum: boobies are an important part of my work. |
| 13:23.43 | dreamss | lol |
| 13:23.59 | dreamss | movie studios will be happy when that hapens nev |
| 13:24.03 | Ellipsis | boobies should be an important part of anyone's daily routine |
| 13:24.13 | kenlyric | like the kid who thought a picture of boobies would be an excellent avatar in his online course profile. |
| 13:24.15 | Ellipsis | well, I suppose gay males can be excepted from that |
| 13:24.19 | dreamss | watch size cellphone with HD camera and a lot of space |
| 13:24.29 | kenlyric | his professors *disagreed*. |
| 13:24.38 | Ellipsis | who'da thunk it |
| 13:25.11 | dreamss | maybe if he was a plastic surgeon |
| 13:25.16 | dreamss | =) |
| 13:25.17 | kenlyric | he's the same sorta guy who would have drunkorgy69@hotmail.com on his resume. |
| 13:25.27 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:25.49 | kenlyric | or would send naked pictures of herself to call someone else fat. |
| 13:26.01 | kenlyric | i'm very tempted to put it on flickr with her name and address. |
| 13:26.59 | Grum | do without |
| 13:27.01 | Grum | and make us laugh |
| 13:27.26 | kenlyric | it's the miracle of email. it's not longer private when you hit Send :) |
| 13:27.52 | *** join/#wowace Beutju (n=tus@p57A78631.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:28.13 | Ellipsis | wait, you mean stuff can be private on the interwebs? |
| 13:28.18 | kenlyric | no. |
| 13:28.20 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 13:28.36 | kenlyric | well, encrypted stuff can reasonably be private. But mostly, no. |
| 13:28.54 | kenlyric | and, even encrypted, you have no control over what people do at the other end. |
| 13:29.15 | Ellipsis | I fully expect that anything I transmit over a network will probably be posted somewhere for people to laugh at later on |
| 13:29.17 | Madmarv1 | wise words ken lyrics |
| 13:29.17 | nevcairiel | encryption with self-destruction algorithms! |
| 13:29.18 | Madmarv1 | xD |
| 13:29.23 | kenlyric | like all those silly disclaimers you read at the bottom of some emails "do not forward" etc? |
| 13:29.31 | kenlyric | not in any way legally binding. |
| 13:30.11 | nevcairiel | well its not too hard to encrypt a large chunk of data in such a way, that it would take like ages to decode it |
| 13:30.24 | nevcairiel | literally ages |
| 13:30.27 | cryogen | surely that depends on the law of the country you are in |
| 13:30.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:28] <Ellipsis> wait, you mean stuff can be private on the interwebs? <--sure let's just all install PiSH |
| 13:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 13:30.37 | Grum | its called FiSH |
| 13:30.39 | sag_ich_nicht | *FiSH |
| 13:30.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 13:30.40 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: yeah, but the assumption on email is that you want the person receiving it to read it :) |
| 13:30.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i typo'd |
| 13:30.49 | sag_ich_nicht | brain typo that is :X |
| 13:30.50 | Grum | and that only works when the key is not known :) |
| 13:30.53 | sag_ich_nicht | PiSH would make no sense :X |
| 13:31.01 | nevcairiel | cryogen: only US has that funny law, iirc |
| 13:31.03 | Chompers | has anyone been able to transfer a character to the ptr yet? |
| 13:31.06 | Chompers | in europe i mean |
| 13:31.06 | kenlyric | and unless they work for your company and signed the same agreements to not forward that stuff on, it's open game. |
| 13:31.11 | mikma | http://fish.sekure.us/ |
| 13:31.14 | Grum | Chompers: yes and it take long |
| 13:31.26 | cryogen | nevcairiel: fairly sure the UK protects email somewhat as well |
| 13:31.27 | Grum | fish rawks but the implementations are crappy to say the least |
| 13:31.33 | Chompers | i keep getting a 'page is busy' error |
| 13:31.51 | Grum | Chompers: wait a day and try again (seriously) |
| 13:32.26 | kenlyric | copyright protection actually legally protects every email you send. |
| 13:32.35 | kenlyric | (in the US) |
| 13:32.36 | nevcairiel | cryogen: yeah, still mail is plaintext transfer in general |
| 13:32.56 | nevcairiel | everyone could read that |
| 13:33.03 | kenlyric | but I've never actually seen it tested in court with |
| 13:33.20 | kenlyric | -with |
| 13:33.34 | nevcairiel | there are some laws here too, like, its illegal now to run network sniffers, because you could sniff a company password you are not supposed to have |
| 13:34.18 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 13:34.18 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 13:34.19 | sag_ich_nicht | guys |
| 13:34.25 | sag_ich_nicht | this is all stupid |
| 13:34.26 | sag_ich_nicht | because |
| 13:34.31 | sag_ich_nicht | THUNDERDOME! |
| 13:34.44 | kenlyric | and off course, nobody protects their copyright for email and forum and irc, so it's pretty much all lost now. |
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| 13:35.31 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 13:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | we need a new arena |
| 13:35.35 | sag_ich_nicht | THUNDERDOME |
| 13:35.36 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 13:36.04 | weab | haven't you been to gadgetzan? |
| 13:36.09 | weab | what does that look like to you? |
| 13:36.12 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 13:36.16 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's not in use. |
| 13:36.27 | weab | well post on the forums. |
| 13:36.32 | kenlyric | isn't that pretty fail? |
| 13:36.34 | Ellipsis | well, y'all look like like you're doin fine here without me, so I'm gonna head to bed. night all <3 |
| 13:36.41 | kenlyric | the arena that's been in the game forever isn't an arena? |
| 13:36.52 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric: yes. |
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| 13:37.07 | sb | hm lol |
| 13:37.10 | weab | who's finished portal by the way? |
| 13:37.14 | weab | i can't get that damn song out of my head |
| 13:37.15 | sb | you can view talents in 2.3? :o |
| 13:37.21 | nevcairiel | sb: yea |
| 13:37.24 | sb | haha :o |
| 13:38.19 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 13:38.28 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a whole new era of flame. |
| 13:38.33 | sag_ich_nicht | this also means |
| 13:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | we need a new character inspecting addon |
| 13:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 13:38.43 | sb | hmmmm why? |
| 13:38.47 | kenlyric | weab, i'm on 18 |
| 13:38.53 | kenlyric | does it really only go to 19? |
| 13:38.59 | sag_ich_nicht | sb: show stats like the paper doll does for your character |
| 13:39.06 | weab | yes. 19 is longer than the rest |
| 13:39.08 | sag_ich_nicht | now that we can look at the talents, that's easily done. |
| 13:39.13 | sb | ahh okay |
| 13:39.17 | sb | yup |
| 13:39.20 | kenlyric | wait, when was this announcement? |
| 13:39.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ah new ERA OF FLAME |
| 13:39.23 | weab | and something. different happens. |
| 13:39.28 | kenlyric | the talent thing? |
| 13:39.32 | weab | but it's still a short game |
| 13:39.42 | kenlyric | do the bonus levels work? |
| 13:39.49 | weab | yes |
| 13:40.01 | weab | they are way harder than the normal game |
| 13:40.03 | weab | lots of fun |
| 13:40.07 | kenlyric | man, I love trying to make infinite loops with the portal gun. |
| 13:40.08 | weab | break your mind kinda things. |
| 13:40.23 | kenlyric | stupid realistic physics! |
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| 13:40.39 | kenlyric | I had one go for almost a minute. |
| 13:40.40 | weab | can do infinite floor <-> floor |
| 13:40.48 | weab | or floor <-> ceiling |
| 13:40.49 | weab | obviously |
| 13:40.52 | kenlyric | can't |
| 13:40.58 | weab | but not wall -> wall |
| 13:41.04 | kenlyric | slight variations in the movement eventually send it off course |
| 13:41.16 | weab | for which |
| 13:41.35 | kenlyric | any of them. |
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| 13:41.36 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51763 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 13:41.36 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 13:41.36 | CIA-12 | - Added Cenarion Expedition mount |
| 13:41.43 | weab | i don't believe you |
| 13:41.53 | weab | especially with the funneling on |
| 13:42.20 | weab | i've left my floor <-> ceiling portals going for 7+ minutes trying to get the terminal velocity achievement without touching it |
| 13:42.37 | weab | that was before i realized you can't get achievements in the bonus maps :> |
| 13:43.31 | weab | though it still takes 5.5 minutes to get |
| 13:43.35 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 13:43.50 | weab | kinda ridiculous, a person reaches terminal velocity way fatster than that |
| 13:43.52 | kenlyric | i guess i never tried with myself |
| 13:44.34 | kenlyric | the player doesn't rotate like the cube does. |
| 13:46.05 | weab | i'm sure it's possible to do it with a cube or something too, you just have to drop it absolutely perfectly. which is probably pretty close to impossible ;p |
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| 13:46.33 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51764 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 13:46.33 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 13:46.33 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
| 13:47.03 | kenlyric | I think I sliced myself in two |
| 13:47.41 | kenlyric | all I know is I fired the portal gun while I was passing through and then I was dead :) |
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| 13:48.07 | weab | pretty sure that's not possible |
| 13:48.32 | weab | one of the comments says they specifically made the portals never kill you so players wouldn't be afraid of them |
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| 13:49.38 | CIA-12 | 03pb_ee1 * r51765 10SharedMediaAdditionalBackgrounds/: |
| 13:49.38 | CIA-12 | SharedMediaAdditionalFonts: |
| 13:49.38 | CIA-12 | - Creating folder. |
| 13:49.38 | CIA-12 | - This will contain bottom-bars backgrounds (such as the one of UUI). |
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| 13:50.04 | kenlyric | there was a block involved too, so it very well could have been that. |
| 13:50.17 | weab | heh. quite possibly. |
| 13:50.29 | kenlyric | I really, really want the portal gun for turrets in hl2 :) |
| 13:50.43 | kenlyric | YOU DIE NOW |
| 13:50.48 | weab | i'd love to see valve put it in ep3 somehow |
| 13:51.21 | weab | there are some great possibilities in a true fps for that thing. |
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| 13:54.45 | Codayus | It'd be fun anywhere really. |
| 13:54.52 | Codayus | Can you imagine in TF2? |
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| 13:55.10 | Codayus | ...it'd get old fast though, I suspect. |
| 13:55.13 | weab | i'd like to see a coop portal |
| 13:55.32 | kenlyric | as long as the enemies have portal guns too, it's balanced |
| 13:58.41 | sag_ich_nicht | the best class balance is if EVERY class is OP, imho. |
| 13:58.54 | Codayus | heh |
| 13:58.56 | sag_ich_nicht | then bump up the stamina values until it takes longer to kill, and there, you have balance! |
| 13:59.00 | sag_ich_nicht | (lol :X) |
| 14:00.03 | weab | after that you have to make every aspect of every class op. |
| 14:01.02 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 14:01.06 | sag_ich_nicht | delete everyone and give them WLs. |
| 14:01.08 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 14:02.14 | weab | i was thinking make sense demons also have an aura that does 5k dmg/tick to any enemies within 60 yards, for example. |
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| 14:04.31 | CIA-12 | 03pb_ee1 * r51766 10SharedMediaAdditionalBackgrounds/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:04.31 | CIA-12 | SharedMediaAdditionalBackgrounds: |
| 14:04.32 | CIA-12 | - Initial commit. |
| 14:04.32 | CIA-12 | - Updating externals & properties. |
| 14:04.32 | CIA-12 | - Adding the first bar background. |
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| 14:06.24 | Stiven | one question there are fubar and fubar2 |
| 14:06.35 | Stiven | and when i install fubar2 i loss rock config ? :S |
| 14:07.27 | Grum | oh yes that is one of those nice quirks some noob made |
| 14:07.29 | durcyn | Stiven: plain "Fubar" is version 3. |
| 14:07.33 | Stiven | ah |
| 14:07.33 | Stiven | lol |
| 14:07.34 | Grum | fubar2 is the *OLD* fubar |
| 14:07.34 | Stiven | :0 |
| 14:07.36 | Stiven | ok ok |
| 14:07.46 | Stiven | and I runned install.bat -.- |
| 14:07.50 | Stiven | i guess now i fucked fubar :P |
| 14:08.05 | Grum | but instead of naming it fubar_OLD .. then named it fubar2 :'( |
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| 14:08.34 | Stiven | indeed forgot for post on wowace foruim that fubar is gone to 3 |
| 14:08.39 | Stiven | and i wtf downloaded 2 -.- |
| 14:08.43 | Stiven | tought new version -.- |
| 14:08.55 | Stiven | should be named _old ;/ |
| 14:10.36 | Stiven | hmmmmm |
| 14:10.50 | Josh_Borke | should be name FuBarAce imo |
| 14:10.57 | Josh_Borke | not FuBar_Old or FuBar2 |
| 14:10.59 | Stiven | how to back my old fubar -.- |
| 14:11.07 | Stiven | i delited fubar2 :) |
| 14:12.53 | Trae | Does anyone know if there is a way in Cartographer to set the defaul Title color and Default icon? |
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| 14:16.28 | Grum | mm dunno tbh |
| 14:17.28 | Grum | might be hard to do so because of the different iconpacks |
| 14:19.55 | Trae | yeah I map every quest |
| 14:20.05 | Trae | and it gets old having to constantly set the quest Title color |
| 14:20.09 | Trae | and the quest title icon |
| 14:20.33 | Trae | I have a certain icon for regular quests, one for grup quests... one for completed quests, one for questgivers, etc. |
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| 14:23.12 | ramoz | whats IManagerFrame? |
| 14:23.53 | durcyn | ramoz: do you use coolDown? |
| 14:24.10 | ramoz | yeah |
| 14:24.49 | durcyn | that's where it's from. coolDown hasn't been fully ported, it still uses its own library, IFrameManager, for the cooldown frame creation and minimap button |
| 14:24.53 | CIA-12 | 03Firik * r51767 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: (log message trimmed) |
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| 14:24.53 | CIA-12 | - Conflagration |
| 14:24.53 | CIA-12 | - Divine Wrath |
| 14:24.53 | CIA-12 | - Doomfire |
| 14:24.54 | CIA-12 | - Fatal Attraction |
| 14:24.56 | CIA-12 | - Impaling Spine |
| 14:25.46 | ramoz | hm, ok |
| 14:25.49 | ramoz | i got a error with it |
| 14:27.40 | Killmore | anyone know what is the new version of the set bonuses of the paladin T5 ? |
| 14:28.03 | Killmore | the new "ajusted" version |
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| 14:30.59 | ramoz | durcyn: do you need IFrameFactory too? |
| 14:31.01 | xystic | Has anyone here played on the PTR, and can qualify exactly what they mean by "Players will now find that all loot dropped inside instances will be of Superior quality." ? |
| 14:31.13 | durcyn | ramoz: Yes, iirc. |
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| 14:31.32 | dreamss | its pre 60 istances xystic |
| 14:31.36 | durcyn | xystic: all the green crap in old-world instances is blue now. |
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| 14:31.51 | dreamss | like arugals robes are int sta spi spell damage now |
| 14:31.58 | dreamss | instead of agi int sta |
| 14:32.34 | xystic | oh... weird |
| 14:33.02 | dreamss | they making 20-60 easier/faster |
| 14:33.04 | dreamss | nicer |
| 14:33.09 | ramoz | durcyn: any way to get rid of that crappy icon? |
| 14:33.16 | dreamss | less running/easier mobs/better gear |
| 14:33.18 | durcyn | ramoz: no -easy- way, no. |
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| 14:33.29 | durcyn | ramoz: i really recommend Hourglass over coolDown |
| 14:33.35 | Kain___ | hey guys... i had a mage Q if any mages are around.. iis the proc on Quag's eye better than a proc of 125 spell dmg for 15 sec? |
| 14:34.04 | ramoz | durcyn: hm, ok ill give it a try |
| 14:34.07 | Kain___ | i went the mistake of going aldor so i have been using Starkiller's Bauble for bosses to reach the hit rating cap.. (10/48/3) |
| 14:35.26 | sb | omfg |
| 14:35.35 | sb | heroic badge epics are OP :/ |
| 14:35.55 | dreamss | nice spell damage boots for my shaman |
| 14:36.03 | sb | well its > ssc stuff |
| 14:36.07 | dreamss | and with kz/zul droping badges |
| 14:36.08 | dreamss | heh |
| 14:36.17 | dreamss | yeah its black temple kind of stuff |
| 14:36.18 | Kain___ | wehre is the list of new heroic badge stuff? |
| 14:36.31 | dreamss | enhas set is insane, has a lot of ignore armor |
| 14:36.42 | dreamss | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/october/2.3/items/ |
| 14:36.43 | Josh_Borke | are there new heroic badge stuff? |
| 14:36.53 | sb | yes... |
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| 14:37.13 | sb | so no more ssc raiding |
| 14:37.20 | sb | get attunements + heroic stuff |
| 14:37.33 | ramoz | durcyn: seems broken, get errors when i try to select texture, also bars grow on top of eachother, not at the anchor point |
| 14:37.40 | ramoz | sb: gl with attunements without SSC |
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| 14:38.58 | durcyn | ramoz: huh? trunk version is fine. |
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| 14:39.51 | dreamss | it dosent have set bonuses |
| 14:39.52 | dreamss | heh |
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| 14:42.49 | ramoz | durcyn: cool - works now |
| 14:43.02 | Shabador | Any trick to get WoWAceUpdater to work again, or is it on the developers table at the moment? |
| 14:43.30 | |Stan| | I guess the index isn't updating again |
| 14:43.36 | |Stan| | ~blame Kaelten |
| 14:43.37 | purl | ACTION blames Kaelten (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 14:43.37 | MoonWolf | percussian maintanance. |
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| 14:44.20 | Shabador | Is WAU 2.0 working, btw? (Is it even usable in it's current version?) |
| 14:44.56 | MoonWolf | yes and yes |
| 14:46.56 | Shabador | mmm... Got a link to it, MoonWolf? Can't find it any more. |
| 14:48.00 | Shabador | nvm. Google is my friend |
| 14:48.04 | MoonWolf | kk |
| 14:50.45 | alext | woot |
| 14:50.46 | alext | The Boat from Theramore to Menethil is now named "The Lady Mehley", with full scripted crew, cook, and vendors. |
| 14:51.10 | MoonWolf | please waste my resources more |
| 14:52.18 | durcyn | yeah, there's 300 kilobytes of disk space you'll never get back. |
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| 14:52.45 | Shabador | Ah. The whole files.wowace.com is outdated. The last updated tricked me. :p |
| 14:53.28 | Shabador | Then WAU2 of course has the same trouble as WAU. |
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| 14:56.52 | masanbol | ~blame Canada |
| 14:56.52 | purl | ACTION blames Canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 14:58.41 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 14:58.54 | Josh_Borke | ~blame sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:58.55 | purl | ACTION blames sag_ich_nicht (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 14:59.22 | sag_ich_nicht | hi |
| 14:59.52 | Shabador | Kaelten the only one that can get the index back to it's working self? |
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| 15:00.35 | xystic | Does anyone have pictures of the new armor sets in Zul Aman / 2.3? |
| 15:01.28 | |Stan| | xystic: http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/23icons.jpg |
| 15:01.30 | |Stan| | right side |
| 15:01.31 | Shabador | http://www.worldofraids.com/ might have. |
| 15:01.37 | xystic | thanks |
| 15:01.45 | Josh_Borke | www.mmo-champion.com does |
| 15:02.18 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/heroic_armor.jpg |
| 15:02.20 | Bibi | just uploaded that |
| 15:02.23 | Bibi | if it's what you're looking for |
| 15:02.52 | xystic | that looks positively twisted |
| 15:02.57 | Josh_Borke | that's wicked |
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| 15:15.28 | rubik | so was it confirmed somewhere that raid bosses will drop heroic badges? it must have, right? seeing as one can buy any purplez they want from vendors now... |
| 15:17.45 | alext | everything i read says kara/zul bosses drop badges now |
| 15:17.52 | Balstor | 10 man bosses will |
| 15:18.30 | Chompers | how many per boss? |
| 15:18.36 | Balstor | 1 |
| 15:18.41 | ulic | I'd assume 1 per person |
| 15:18.44 | Balstor | 1 per raid member |
| 15:18.48 | Chompers | ah right |
| 15:18.52 | rubik | i would hope 1 per raider, yeah |
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| 15:19.44 | Balstor | pets also get one so they can buy an epic pokeball |
| 15:19.53 | rubik | lol |
| 15:22.04 | Killmore | "ajusted" bonuses change for paladin http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paladinql7.jpg |
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| 15:23.31 | Balstor | please the ptr is painful to me, my fury warrior is still in pain |
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| 15:24.45 | Kain___ | can someone link the new badge list? had to reboot my computer and lost the link |
| 15:25.00 | Killmore | mmo-champion |
| 15:25.06 | |Stan| | dot com |
| 15:25.32 | Bibi | slash index html |
| 15:25.46 | |Stan| | you missed "dot" |
| 15:26.00 | Bibi | Last time I slept was more than 30 hours ago |
| 15:26.59 | Killmore | ouff, my paladin friend dont like his new 4pcs bonus t5 :P |
| 15:26.59 | |Stan| | you should sleep more |
| 15:28.58 | Bibi | and you should buy me 10 more servers |
| 15:29.09 | Killmore | haha |
| 15:33.25 | kenlyric | i have it set to refresh ever 3.7 seconds. |
| 15:33.30 | kenlyric | JUST FOR YOU |
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| 15:36.34 | Balstor | http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/hettbeans/gyrocoptoranim.gif |
| 15:36.38 | Mech0z | Anyone here who is coding on wowaceupdater? |
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| 15:46.36 | Balstor | why can't the gear on my warrior look this good : http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/10/7079_a_full.jpg |
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| 15:56.34 | Trell_ | anything else exciting been found out about 2.3 since this morning? |
| 15:57.17 | Trell_ | [dory's embrace] crap name, great cloak |
| 15:57.28 | Trell_ | makes me think of dora the explorer |
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| 16:08.16 | Kemayo | Mech0z: You probably want #wau |
| 16:08.38 | Trell_ | lol, when you repair: Do you want to use personal funds, or guild bank funds for repair? |
| 16:09.11 | Kemayo | Oh, that's not going to cause drama. |
| 16:09.15 | kenlyric | nope |
| 16:09.49 | Trell_ | however; gm's set the limit each player can take each day or w/e |
| 16:09.56 | Trell_ | its just weird to see it when you repair |
| 16:09.57 | Trell_ | :X |
| 16:10.05 | Shabador | Mech0z, WAU ain't broken. It's the whole files.wowace.com |
| 16:10.54 | shieldb | Trell_, is there any info as to if the limit per day is able to be set on a 'per player' level or if you just get to go "ok, 20g repair budget for everyone" ? |
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| 16:11.26 | Kemayo | Has anyone heard what the guild bank tabs will cost? (And whether you start with one?) |
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| 16:12.23 | Trell_ | shieldb; as far as I can see, its per day, per player |
| 16:12.31 | Trell_ | but thats going from the guild admin stuff when you're gm |
| 16:12.40 | Trell_ | don't think gbanks are actually in the ptr's yet |
| 16:12.50 | shieldb | they're off according to the 2.3 notes |
| 16:13.33 | shieldb | I'm thinking along the lines of being able to set your tanks to a higher per day threshold then other players |
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| 16:14.40 | CIA-12 | SimpleCombatLog: |
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| 16:14.45 | kebinusan | the guild bank stuff is disabled atm |
| 16:14.49 | kebinusan | cant really test it |
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| 16:14.53 | CIA-12 | Visor2: |
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| 16:15.02 | CIA-12 | Visor2GUI |
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| 16:20.39 | CIA-12 | 03zhinjio * r51775 10/branches/SKG/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:20.39 | CIA-12 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
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| 16:20.40 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.49 | Fisker- | Circle of Healing: The base amount of healing from this spell has been reduced along with increasing the bonus it receives from bonus healing effects. Characters with more than 1338 healing will see their Circle of Healing heal for more than previous patches. Characters with less than 1338 healing will see their Circle of Healing heal for less. |
| 16:22.59 | Polarina | Fisker-: It is actually 1337 but Blizzard didn't want to use that number in the change log. |
| 16:23.08 | Trell_ | in a vanilla UI, theres no way to scale the unitframes, right? |
| 16:23.23 | NightHawkTheSane | there's the general ui scale |
| 16:23.59 | Trell_ | got it, forgot about that, thanks. |
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| 16:26.54 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r51776 10AutoBar/Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 16:26.54 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 16:26.54 | CIA-12 | fix invalid translation in frFR locale. remove the line feed characters. |
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| 16:30.39 | Trell_ | some of the badge of justice stuff is, just, wow |
| 16:30.45 | Trell_ | plate stuff is awesome, and looks crazy |
| 16:31.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that mail gear doesn't look too shabby |
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| 16:33.30 | Trell_ | you seen the clown plate head |
| 16:33.37 | Trell_ | well, looks like a clown mask to me :X |
| 16:34.00 | Trell_ | Amani Mask of Death |
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| 16:35.26 | Sirow | anyone using Autobar? Now do I move this thingy, there is no drag button anymore? :( |
| 16:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Sirow: hover over the Fubar item, there's a modifier-click to unlock the bar, which should show up a green bar over the autobar that you can drag by |
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| 16:37.10 | Sirow | a thx alot :) |
| 16:37.22 | kebinusan | mmm Ilove forums, This "I was gicked cause I couldnt cast soul well fast enough" thread made my morning |
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| 16:38.13 | Corey | anyone use ag_uf here? |
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| 16:42.42 | dreamss | autobar acting haha funny |
| 16:44.31 | NightHawkTheSane | 'The Eye' is such a great episode of sg:a |
| 16:45.15 | dreamss | which one is that |
| 16:45.38 | NightHawkTheSane | 1x11, part 2 of The Storm. |
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| 16:47.21 | Sirow | erm, just testing FlexBar2, there's no GUI right? O_O |
| 16:49.08 | Balstor | not anymore |
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| 16:49.38 | Balstor | it may eventually get readded if we can blackmail cnc into it |
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| 16:50.28 | Balstor | read the Slashcommands.txt it expalins all the slash commands fairly well |
| 16:50.54 | Sirow | thx, was a bit lost with /flexbar help ^^ |
| 16:51.14 | dreamss | anyone else has issues with autobar? |
| 16:51.48 | Balstor | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.48 | dreamss | like autobarclassbar freaking out? |
| 16:51.48 | Balstor | and then try /fb2 lock and /fb2 unlock |
| 16:51.48 | Sirow | nope, its a bit nasty atm, but autobar works |
| 16:51.52 | Balstor | thats about 90% of flexbar right there |
| 16:52.02 | dreamss | did u update it sir? |
| 16:52.11 | Sirow | y |
| 16:52.15 | Sirow | 5min ago |
| 16:52.57 | Killmore | I dont understand the point of this wrist |
| 16:52.57 | Killmore | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33589 |
| 16:53.07 | Sirow | alpha isn't working and had to reload to get columns refreshed, but everything alse seems to work (ok and cy_cicled support atm not there^^) |
| 16:53.12 | Killmore | crit on cloth with +2 spell dmg bonus |
| 16:53.17 | Killmore | for healing cloth gear |
| 16:53.23 | dreamss | i have a bar calledabclassbar, cant modify it |
| 16:53.29 | dreamss | oh gotta /rl to see changes? |
| 16:53.42 | Sirow | try, maybe ;) |
| 16:55.51 | Sirow | Balstor, doesn Flexbar2 support some kind of paging? |
| 16:56.11 | Balstor | Killmore looks like shadow priest gear |
| 16:56.45 | Balstor | Sirow paging as in, paging for stances? or paging as in the action bar has pages? |
| 16:57.14 | Speeddymon_ | im guessing that files. is still not building the zips? |
| 16:57.29 | Sirow | Paging like changing a bar when holding shift (toggable would be really awesome) |
| 16:57.48 | Sirow | (like in bartender) |
| 16:58.00 | Killmore | Balstor: SP gear with +19 dmg on wrist ? |
| 16:59.03 | Balstor | well the +19 damage is the new change in 2.3 where all +healing gives damage bonus though the percentage looks a bit off |
| 16:59.16 | Balstor | maybe it's for a smite build :) |
| 16:59.27 | Sirow | hrhr lol :D |
| 16:59.58 | NightHawkTheSane | "I don't know if you noticed or not, but I'm an extremely arrogant man who tends to think all of his plans will work." |
| 17:00.11 | kebinusan | its so priests can eat debuff slots with frivolous shadow word: Pains |
| 17:00.21 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r51777 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 17:00.21 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 17:00.21 | CIA-12 | - fixed a silly bug with test bars |
| 17:02.11 | Balstor | Sirow I don't think it can do that yet, it can page buttons or button groups on target change and stance change but i don't know how to do it with a key modifier. have to save that for cncfanatics when he gets on |
| 17:02.49 | kebinusan | Im curious what its going to look like with a hunter soloing with his pet tho |
| 17:02.55 | kebinusan | given that pets try to get behind mobs |
| 17:02.59 | kebinusan | Im still waiting for a video |
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| 17:08.07 | kenlyric | kebinusan: means pets will drag mobs into dead zone 50% more |
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| 17:08.12 | kenlyric | which will make it 100% |
| 17:08.19 | kenlyric | because pets are fucking dumb. |
| 17:08.28 | kenlyric | run to mob. STAY THERE. |
| 17:08.32 | kenlyric | that's all I ask |
| 17:09.17 | kenlyric | my guess is the mechanic will only work if the pet doesn't have aggro. |
| 17:10.11 | Balstor | ohhh the damage modifer for +heal is only 33% |
| 17:10.14 | Megalon | but then again, it's blizzard :P |
| 17:11.45 | rubik | re: Rock and talent info being sent/shared... is there an addon that will let me query the exact spec of other folks? i see the word spec in my guild list using that addon tek wrote to add spec info to /who and lfg windows |
| 17:12.09 | kenlyric | Megalon: sorry, I meant the mechanic will be completely fucked for seven patches. |
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| 17:12.46 | kenlyric | i'm still stunned over the shadowform fix. |
| 17:12.57 | kenlyric | I can't believe that was a *bug* in the game for that long. |
| 17:13.20 | Hjalte | rubik, talented. |
| 17:13.37 | Sirow | I can't believe thy nerf fearward to 3 fucking minutes Oo |
| 17:14.01 | Hjalte | some warriors will have to l2tank now |
| 17:14.15 | rubik | some alliance warriors* |
| 17:14.27 | kenlyric | some alliance human warriors* |
| 17:14.28 | rubik | us horde tanks don't know/care what fear ward is |
| 17:14.29 | Sirow | *giggles* |
| 17:14.34 | kebinusan | rubic, talented maybe? |
| 17:14.39 | kebinusan | err rubik |
| 17:14.45 | rubik | yeah, thanks guys.. will grab talented |
| 17:14.48 | Hjalte | kebinusan, cute, but too late :P |
| 17:14.56 | rubik | i know EnhancedLFG adds the info but won't show exact built |
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| 17:15.04 | kebinusan | yes, I need to alt tab between windows faster :-) |
| 17:15.14 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: when i played my human warrior, we didn't have a dwarf priest in the guild. >< |
| 17:15.21 | kebinusan | we never have dwarves |
| 17:15.26 | aliset | speaking of warriors - I'm looking for some people to test my branch of TankPoints before I recommend a merge. I've added EffectiveHealth/EffectiveHealthwithBlock to TankPoints, along with some minor fixes. |
| 17:15.31 | kenlyric | I haven't seen a dwarf priest since TBC |
| 17:15.33 | Funkeh` | hello |
| 17:15.36 | kenlyric | they all went back to their mains. |
| 17:15.41 | aliset | anyone interested? |
| 17:16.00 | kebinusan | My tanks actually dislike having fear ward to be quite honest, they always said it made fights too boring |
| 17:16.03 | Sirow | Sirow waves at kenlyric |
| 17:16.19 | kenlyric | you're a dwarf priest? |
| 17:16.25 | Sirow | yeph |
| 17:16.27 | kenlyric | can I please have some of your tears? |
| 17:16.34 | kenlyric | dwarf priest tears can cure small wounds. |
| 17:16.40 | Sirow | :D |
| 17:16.44 | kebinusan | [Vial of Tears] |
| 17:17.03 | kebinusan | with flavor text, "They taste oh so sweet" |
| 17:17.31 | Speeddymon_ | ~seen pastamancer |
| 17:17.35 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowi-lounge (7d 4h 27m 59s) #wowace (7d 4h 27m 59s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 2d 20h 51m 44s, last said: 'I'd recommend having a queue table that you remove items from as they are processed'. |
| 17:17.35 | kenlyric | between undead and dwarf dears, I don't know which are more delicious. |
| 17:18.11 | Speeddymon_ | purl learn more |
| 17:18.16 | aliset | ~seen whitetooth |
| 17:18.17 | purl | whitetooth <n=Whitetoo@59-127-64-40.HINET-IP.hinet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 123d 16h 31m 4s ago, saying: 'ok I can do that :p'. |
| 17:18.32 | Speeddymon_ | 123d? holy shit |
| 17:18.55 | Speeddymon_ | ~learn more |
| 17:19.04 | Speeddymon_ | purl learn mode |
| 17:19.12 | aliset | ...hmmm. He's the maintainer of the mod I modded. What do you think the polite thing to do would be regarding merging? |
| 17:19.35 | Speeddymon_ | post a thread on the forums saying you are taking over the mod and then commit your changes to trunk |
| 17:19.46 | Speeddymon_ | its what i did for sorren's cooldowntimers |
| 17:19.48 | Speeddymon_ | ~seen sorren |
| 17:19.49 | purl | i haven't seen 'sorren', Speeddymon_ |
| 17:19.53 | Speeddymon_ | lol |
| 17:20.04 | rubik | anyone know what causes this? i've had the error for months and just ignored it but would be nice to get rid of it.. http://ace.pastey.net/75201 |
| 17:20.20 | rubik | wth is Ace-1.4\AceState.lua and why would i be using that? |
| 17:20.33 | Speeddymon_ | rubik: got any mods that use the old ace1? |
| 17:20.38 | kebinusan | delete it and see what breaks :-) |
| 17:20.46 | rubik | i was trying to think if i do... |
| 17:20.49 | Speeddymon_ | if not, delete ace folder (not ace2) |
| 17:20.51 | rubik | that's not a bad idea |
| 17:20.56 | rubik | will try |
| 17:20.56 | kebinusan | just disable it actually |
| 17:20.58 | kebinusan | dont delete it |
| 17:21.18 | Speeddymon_ | nah.. ace1 is deprecated.. any mods should be updated to ace2.. ace1 code is known to give shit like that |
| 17:21.22 | kebinusan | you can always delete it later |
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| 17:21.40 | Speeddymon_ | d.e.l.e.t.e. ace |
| 17:21.43 | aliset | Speeddymon: kk, thanks |
| 17:21.51 | Speeddymon_ | np |
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| 17:22.37 | Speeddymon_ | bye bye |
| 17:22.46 | aliset | latte |
| 17:22.52 | rubik | ahhh.. WhoNote uses it |
| 17:23.03 | rubik | an addon that lets me click on someone's name and does a /who on them |
| 17:23.15 | rubik | that's dumb |
| 17:23.33 | ulic | you can shift-click on chat names to do that I believe |
| 17:23.47 | rubik | that's what that does... you mean it's built-in to something else? |
| 17:23.55 | rubik | (it should be, i'm thinking) |
| 17:23.57 | ulic | built into the game |
| 17:24.10 | NeoTron | so the stats that says to "eat" the second pyro on Kael'thas seems to ignore how incredibly easy it is to burn the shield down |
| 17:24.13 | rubik | oh wait.. WhoNote does something else. |
| 17:24.15 | kenlyric | well, if it's an ace1 addon, it could be a functin that was added any time in the last year :) |
| 17:24.17 | ulic | I'm pretty sure at least it's not an addon that's doing it for me. |
| 17:24.26 | rubik | it shows guild notes on shift-click on someone |
| 17:24.30 | rubik | appends to /who info |
| 17:25.00 | Xinhuan | NeoTron: its not that its hard, its just that sometimes the phoenix happens to die at the same time, and you also need to kill the egg. eating the pyro is then easier |
| 17:26.54 | Trell_ | fuckers |
| 17:27.00 | Trell_ | excuse my language |
| 17:27.15 | Trell_ | finally got 10 people together, and half are saved to ZA already thanks to talking to the npc at the start |
| 17:27.37 | kebinusan | Trell_: heh at least you got your character copied |
| 17:29.21 | rubik | yeah |
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| 17:29.45 | rubik | i tried a brazillion times last night.. started with 2 hr wait.. then 1 day.. 2 day.. 3.. 4.. 5.. then 5 and "queue full" |
| 17:30.41 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: which you can control by diverting DPS to the phoenix ensuring it doesn't happen at the same time. we learned that on our first try of deciding to burn the shield instead of eat it |
| 17:30.50 | kenlyric | so what's the transportation method? |
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| 17:31.06 | Xinhuan | NeoTron: therefore its just a matter of preference |
| 17:31.22 | NeoTron | rubik: now you can't even get to the copy page |
| 17:33.06 | NeoTron | pre-spell haste I have a pretty clear idea. add that in and .. yeah :P |
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| 17:36.10 | kenlyric | so, what's the transportation method to Zul'Aman? long fucking walk? |
| 17:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | well, for alliance it's a long fucking walk. Horde are escorted there by winged cherubim upon a golden chariot. |
| 17:36.49 | kenlyric | LFW with horde pvp immunity. It's the barrens! |
| 17:37.36 | Comxx | rubik have you try PlayerMenu for the /who |
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| 17:44.56 | cryogen | wow |
| 17:45.00 | cryogen | toad really broke autobar :p |
| 17:45.55 | rubik | Comxx: not yet.. will check, thanks |
| 17:46.51 | Trell_ | ritual of refreshment is awesome |
| 17:47.34 | cryogen | whats it give you? |
| 17:47.36 | cryogen | infinite water? |
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| 17:51.32 | hyperChipmunk | it's manna biscuitwell |
| 17:52.02 | cryogen | with how many charges? |
| 17:52.42 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=43987 |
| 17:54.00 | NivFreak | if only the PTR was up :) |
| 17:55.06 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.15 | cryogen | uh copy not paste |
| 17:55.18 | cryogen | stupid mouse |
| 17:56.03 | deltron | copypasta |
| 17:57.31 | hyperChipmunk | urxvt ftw |
| 17:57.50 | hyperChipmunk | doubleclick, ctrl-rightclick-->firexox |
| 17:57.54 | hyperChipmunk | fox* |
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| 18:06.09 | Soulless | whats the best way to check if a play has a spell? |
| 18:06.34 | Soulless | i was playing with IsUsableSpell but that gets bugged out with silence and other efects |
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| 18:06.50 | Balstor | search the spell book I would imagine |
| 18:06.52 | Soulless | GetSpellName? |
| 18:07.02 | Soulless | yeah i was hoping you wouldn't say that >_< |
| 18:07.14 | Balstor | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellName |
| 18:07.49 | Balstor | i just cached the results of their little loop there and use it to check to see if a spell cast was a spell the player could cast |
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| 18:08.11 | Soulless | yeah |
| 18:08.20 | Soulless | its just nice b/c i just need to checkf or about 5 spells |
| 18:08.34 | Soulless | and isusablespell is by name |
| 18:08.46 | Soulless | but its not reliable enough for what im doin with it |
| 18:09.00 | Balstor | I also decided that GetSpellName must return the localized version of the spell name. i can't see how it cou;d return otherwise but not 100% sure |
| 18:09.21 | Soulless | thats fine i only deal with EnUs |
| 18:11.47 | Soulless | if im doing a while loop and i need to break on finding any of say 5 things |
| 18:12.03 | Soulless | is it better to do multiple elseifs or a long ass or statement? |
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| 18:12.31 | Balstor | hmmm I would ask how many times you ned to check for this |
| 18:12.32 | Soulless | or does it really matter? |
| 18:12.47 | Soulless | i have rage filters setup for healers to be 40 yards |
| 18:12.52 | Soulless | based on their heling spells |
| 18:12.56 | Soulless | and for mages cuz they have AB |
| 18:13.06 | Soulless | but i need to check and make sure they have the spells i'm checking for |
| 18:13.17 | Soulless | so im running a check for one spell of each class |
| 18:13.26 | NeoTron | cryogen: indeed. AutoBar2 comes to mind as a batter path.. |
| 18:13.28 | Soulless | and if it doens't find it i'l use checkinteractdistance |
| 18:13.50 | Balstor | ooo distance library stuff, evil evil mojo there |
| 18:13.52 | Soulless | so at login i need to find out class and if they have 1 spell |
| 18:14.13 | Soulless | cuz range checks fail obviously if you don't have that spell |
| 18:14.57 | Balstor | I remember something when i worked on distance checker , that if the spell was on a action button you couldn't check it for range |
| 18:15.01 | Soulless | oh yeah i know its like blasphemy to speak of rdx here, but veni kinda quit coding or something, hes been mia for almost 2.5 months now |
| 18:15.08 | Soulless | and somebody posted the full verstion fo free >_< |
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| 18:15.21 | Soulless | link in a sec firefox is updatin |
| 18:15.39 | kenlyric | quick, someone steal the bloat from it! |
| 18:15.41 | nevcairiel | you dont need actionbuttons anymore |
| 18:15.47 | Soulless | wtb UnitDistance |
| 18:16.02 | Trell_ | first reaction to ZA, mages have a lot of sheeping to do :P |
| 18:16.04 | nevcairiel | sRF just cycles your spells, looks for anyspell with 40y range, and uses that for detection |
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| 18:16.49 | NeoTron | oh god |
| 18:16.51 | Soulless | i thought of that, but theres really only a handful of spells with 40 yd range |
| 18:17.05 | NeoTron | wowhead better fix so you can search for items with spelldmg but witout healing |
| 18:17.06 | Balstor | RangeCheck-1.01 month agoLibraryA library to determine estimated range.mitch0 |
| 18:17.13 | NeoTron | now every single healing item triggers on spell dmg searches |
| 18:17.26 | Soulless | b/c of the 2.3 changes? |
| 18:17.31 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:17.38 | NeoTron | 99 healing / 33 dmg |
| 18:17.39 | NeoTron | woot |
| 18:17.44 | Soulless | http://www.rdx-raid.com/forums?c=showthread&ThreadID=4971 |
| 18:17.56 | Balstor | i would just search the spell on intialize and load up the spell names into a string for use later |
| 18:18.00 | NeoTron | and it counts items with +spelldmg as +healing so I can't use dmg>0 and heal =0 |
| 18:18.00 | Soulless | yeah its more work, i gatta read like 15 extra lines |
| 18:18.16 | Soulless | lol |
| 18:18.17 | Balstor | only have to search it once and then you have quick hadles to it |
| 18:18.21 | Soulless | just use your heal |
| 18:18.24 | Soulless | head* |
| 18:18.30 | Soulless | yeah |
| 18:18.34 | Balstor | O and research the spell book on inventory change events |
| 18:18.52 | Soulless | weird stuff happens? |
| 18:19.26 | Fisker- | btw got way less +damage than i expected :I |
| 18:19.30 | Fisker- | only +300 ish |
| 18:19.44 | Balstor | spell ranges can get changed i swear there was a set bonus at one time that effect spell casting range, |
| 18:19.56 | NeoTron | Fisker-: so just around 900+healing? |
| 18:20.14 | Soulless | prob with talents |
| 18:20.30 | Soulless | i thought all heals were 40 yd |
| 18:20.36 | Soulless | well all base normal ones |
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| 18:20.51 | Balstor | yhea could search the tooltip and extract the range |
| 18:21.03 | Balstor | I know for locks they get a +reach takent |
| 18:21.15 | Soulless | locks don't have any 40 yd spells |
| 18:21.20 | Balstor | gahhhh spelling is killing me this week |
| 18:21.20 | Soulless | and they don't really need it |
| 18:21.27 | Soulless | its for healing |
| 18:21.45 | Soulless | i have a rangebox next to they're unitframe on my raid setups |
| 18:21.58 | Soulless | green = 0-30 yellow = 30-40 red = 40+ |
| 18:22.08 | Fisker- | NeoTron got 1680 +healing |
| 18:22.16 | Soulless | unless you don't have a 40 yd spell, then its just green and red = 30+ |
| 18:23.29 | Soulless | is there a way to check if an event has already fired |
| 18:23.34 | Soulless | aka PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 18:23.47 | Soulless | thats a one time even no? |
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| 18:25.23 | Balstor | i would guess a onetime event but never have used it |
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| 18:25.52 | Balstor | off to lunch |
| 18:25.57 | Josh_Borke | Soulless: PLAYER_LOGIN is a one time event. you can check for login with IsLoggedIn() |
| 18:26.10 | Soulless | ty |
| 18:26.17 | alext | locks have a ghetto 40 yd spell but it really doesnt count |
| 18:26.26 | alext | if your draining, it will keep going at 40yds if your target moves away from you |
| 18:26.28 | alext | ;[ |
| 18:26.30 | Soulless | soulshatter? |
| 18:26.40 | alext | well i guess soulshatter counts as a real 40+ yard spell |
| 18:26.45 | Xinhuan | alternatively, you can register for it yourself and use a boolean flag to store if PLAYER_LOGIN has fired (assuming your addon isn't LoD) |
| 18:26.51 | Soulless | yeah can't do range checks on friendly targets with those spells though |
| 18:26.57 | alext | yeah ;[ |
| 18:27.09 | Soulless | its not lod |
| 18:27.23 | Soulless | lod is for nubs and efficent coders lolz |
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| 18:28.46 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 18:29.27 | cryogen | cnc hola |
| 18:29.53 | cncfanatics | feels so good to have some alcohol in :p |
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| 18:30.22 | cncfanatics | don't mind me btw, I'm slightly drunk, but its gonna be worse tomorrow |
| 18:31.16 | Trell_ | some of the mobs in za are bitches |
| 18:31.29 | deltron | yay for drunkenness |
| 18:31.33 | Trell_ | one of the caster type mobs has a pally bubble type thing that they cast on themselves and others |
| 18:31.47 | cncfanatics | deltron, if I'm online tomorrow its gonna be WAAAAY worse :p |
| 18:31.51 | deltron | I can't get my char to copy :( |
| 18:31.58 | deltron | cncfanatics: what's the occasion? |
| 18:32.44 | cncfanatics | deltron, party at 5 mins of my home tomorrow, no special occasion |
| 18:32.55 | deltron | ah nice :P |
| 18:32.57 | deltron | err :) |
| 18:34.57 | sb_ | is there a way to avoid toy on tank? (kaelthas) |
| 18:35.02 | sb_ | line of sight, range, etc? |
| 18:35.20 | deltron | nope |
| 18:35.24 | deltron | have a backup tank |
| 18:35.31 | sb_ | mh k |
| 18:35.44 | deltron | that's what we doe |
| 18:35.47 | deltron | s/doe/do/ |
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| 18:36.49 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r51778 10GameLobby/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:36.49 | CIA-12 | GameLobby: |
| 18:36.49 | CIA-12 | - RoundBasedGame class: fixed a bug that the game would stuck if a player disconnects the game and it was his turn. |
| 18:36.49 | CIA-12 | - BasicServer class: deliver the self variable to the custom receiving functions |
| 18:36.50 | CIA-12 | - core: deliver the self variable to the BasicServer receiving functions |
| 18:36.52 | CIA-12 | - fixed some typings in the frame-recycling functions (that fixes the error that no "SetBackdrop" - method exists) |
| 18:36.55 | CIA-12 | - if you already join the server now a message will be fired |
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| 18:39.38 | deltron | norganna? |
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| 18:44.33 | Borked|Raider | any eta on char copy getting up? |
| 18:44.43 | deltron | soon I hope :P |
| 18:45.12 | Trell_ | ooo seen a ZA drop :) |
| 18:45.14 | Trell_ | Fury. |
| 18:45.57 | Trell_ | fist, OH, 2.6, 174-323, 95.6dps, 20 stam, red socket, +4AP socket bonus, +20 hit rating, +26 AP. |
| 18:46.19 | CIA-12 | 03earthbane * r51779 10HellbenderDKP/HellbenderDKP.toc: |
| 18:46.19 | CIA-12 | HellbenderDKP: |
| 18:46.19 | CIA-12 | - Updated TOC to 2.2 |
| 18:48.40 | CIA-12 | 03earthbane * r51780 10DKPmon_HellbenderDKP/ (DKP_Pools.lua DKPmon_HellbenderDKP.lua): |
| 18:48.40 | CIA-12 | DKPmon_HellbenderDKP: |
| 18:48.40 | CIA-12 | - Added error messages for dropzones that are not mapped to a DKP pool |
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| 18:49.30 | Fisker- | Anyone know how to enable an addon in a script? |
| 18:49.32 | Fisker- | or load it |
| 18:50.21 | Josh_Borke | it's /script EnableAddon("blah") i think |
| 18:50.28 | Josh_Borke | and /script LoadAddon("blah") i think |
| 18:50.30 | Trell_ | posted a few crappy screenies and some info on first ZA looks here if anyones interested: http://www.angelicknights.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=1619 |
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| 18:54.15 | cubicool | Does anyone know if it would be possible to turn the "resist" Frames (arcane, etc.) into buttons? |
| 18:54.20 | cubicool | Or is this not possible? |
| 18:54.44 | Beutju | someone knows how to use "RemoveChatWindowMessages(index, "messageGroup")" ? |
| 18:55.16 | Beutju | or is there any way to remove a line from chatwindow or prevent it from being displayed? |
| 18:55.46 | Tornhoof | you might want to take a look at one of the spam filtering addons |
| 18:56.49 | Keias | I have the most delicious hamburgers ever made |
| 18:57.03 | NeoTron | what I wodner is if the char copy is broken entirely (i.e queue not being eaten up) or simply incrediblyo verloaded |
| 18:58.06 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, since when u code ? :o |
| 18:59.09 | Balstor | cncfanatics there was a request earlier to have flexbar pag based on a key press (like a stance change) |
| 18:59.26 | cncfanatics | Balstor, not possible except for shift, alt & ctrl, which is already done |
| 19:00.37 | Fisker- | cncfanatics i don't |
| 19:00.40 | Fisker- | know if it's right though? |
| 19:00.41 | Balstor | hmm slashcommands.txt seems rather silent on that :) |
| 19:00.42 | Killmore | If I go to zul'aman on the PTR, which addon I need to log stuff to send to bigwigs staff ? |
| 19:00.45 | Fisker- | I keep getting a nil error |
| 19:00.46 | Killmore | I dont remember the name |
| 19:00.58 | nevcairiel | Killmore: transcriptor |
| 19:01.06 | Killmore | thx |
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| 19:02.25 | cncfanatics | Balstor, check the online version |
| 19:02.40 | cncfanatics | shld be said shift, ctrl & alt remap automagicaly at the /fb setremap function |
| 19:03.31 | Balstor | hmmm svn checkin go go go |
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| 19:05.29 | Fisker- | ah sneaky blizzard |
| 19:05.32 | Fisker- | BUT NOT SNEAKY ENOUGH |
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| 19:06.56 | cncfanatics | Balstor, I mean the wikified documentation |
| 19:07.43 | Xelopheris | So WoW running off an ipod as external drive really works quite well |
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| 19:07.53 | Xelopheris | did AV during my Real Time Systems class, was pretty fun |
| 19:08.20 | Balstor | hmm setprofile is hosing me |
| 19:08.50 | Fisker- | noes |
| 19:08.52 | Fisker- | it killed my wow |
| 19:09.24 | cncfanatics | Balstor, how so ? |
| 19:09.28 | Balstor | I want to duplicate my profile into tank/pvp/dps so i do a |
| 19:09.29 | Balstor | /fb2 setprofile profile=tank |
| 19:09.31 | Balstor | /fb2 copyprofile profile=char/Balstor - Anetheron |
| 19:09.32 | Balstor | and now i have a screwed up profile |
| 19:09.34 | Fisker- | anyone got ptr up? |
| 19:09.40 | cncfanatics | whats screwed up about it Balstor ? |
| 19:09.48 | Fisker- | need to know what files are in WoWTest\Data\enGB |
| 19:10.09 | Balstor | it went back to a default profile on the copy not my good char profile |
| 19:10.27 | cncfanatics | ain't it Char/Balstor - Anatheron ? mind the caps |
| 19:10.45 | cncfanatics | and anyway, if ur logged in on the same character u can do /fb copyprofile profile=char |
| 19:11.09 | Balstor | the lua file says ["char/Balstor - Anetheron"] |
| 19:11.26 | cncfanatics | well, try /fb copyprofile profile=char while being logged in on Balstor - Anatheron |
| 19:11.40 | Balstor | tried taht and same hosing |
| 19:11.56 | Balstor | also tried to set my frofile back to char and it was still hosed |
| 19:12.03 | Balstor | gree spelling again |
| 19:12.05 | cncfanatics | what exactly goes wrong ? |
| 19:12.20 | Balstor | i just get a couple of rows of unlocked buttons |
| 19:12.39 | cncfanatics | then thats because the profile for that char is set to that tbh |
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| 19:13.01 | sb_ | Funkeh`: do you already have transcripts? |
| 19:13.15 | Funkeh` | of? |
| 19:13.20 | sb_ | ZA |
| 19:13.24 | Funkeh` | no |
| 19:13.44 | Funkeh` | Is the instance name correct? |
| 19:13.53 | Balstor | yet when i log in normally i get all my buttonds located like i want them, let me try something in emacs |
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| 19:14.18 | Fisker- | damn |
| 19:14.21 | Fisker- | atleast i was owned by warden |
| 19:15.07 | Balstor | ["chars"] = { |
| 19:15.08 | Balstor | ["Balstor - Anetheron"] = { |
| 19:15.10 | Balstor | is still in this file going to try deleteing that |
| 19:15.18 | sb_ | Funkeh`: err nvm, dumped my SV :/ |
| 19:15.30 | sb_ | *selfstab* |
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| 19:16.25 | hyperChipmunk | here, let me get that for ya |
| 19:16.37 | cncfanatics | Balstor, weirdish, is that from the old old old FB ? |
| 19:16.52 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 19:17.04 | Chompers | you got your character transfered yet? |
| 19:17.10 | Balstor | yhea |
| 19:17.16 | Borked|Raider | if i am to make some textures for an addon, anyone who dont mind sum up for me what it is again i should save the files as and whats hte larges size, px X px ?? |
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| 19:17.48 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51781 10FlexBar2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:17.49 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 19:17.49 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.49 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.53 | crom | hey guys, I just updated my mods using the wowace updater, and now I'm getting an error "attempt to call global 'Rock' (a nil value)". The error happens for bartender3, then when I disable bartender3 the error pops up for pitbull, if I disable that it pops up for quartz, etc |
| 19:19.36 | Chompers | updater 1.9.44.688? |
| 19:19.45 | Matrix110| | not having automatic dependency dl on |
| 19:19.57 | CIA-12 | 03deccard * r51783 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 19:19.57 | CIA-12 | MiniChat: |
| 19:19.57 | CIA-12 | - fixed a bug with Chat Alpha and tabs |
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| 19:20.29 | Dezzimal | is wowace under a pretty heavy load atm? |
| 19:20.35 | Dezzimal | seems to be running a bit slow |
| 19:20.57 | crom | the version of updater I'm using is 1.9.44.688, yes |
| 19:21.30 | phyber | 51782 missing? |
| 19:21.34 | phyber | stupid fucking cia. |
| 19:22.52 | Chompers | goto: edit>preferences and make sure 'automatic dependancy download' is ticked |
| 19:22.55 | Chompers | then try updating |
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| 19:23.24 | crom | ok, that added a bunch of stuff, let me see if it works.. |
| 19:23.37 | cncfanatics | phyber, just doesn't like you |
| 19:23.43 | phyber | yeah. |
| 19:24.04 | phyber | I changed the BT map in cartographer a bit. just rotated it so it matches the minimap and moved the boss notes to the new positions |
| 19:24.13 | Balstor | I do a /fb2 setprofile profile=prot |
| 19:24.14 | Balstor | it blanks the screen since this is a new profile |
| 19:24.16 | Balstor | I do a /fb2 copyprofile profile=char |
| 19:24.17 | Balstor | I get 3 rows of unlocked buttons |
| 19:24.19 | Balstor | I read the lua and it copied it but cleared all the settings for the buttons. |
| 19:24.36 | crom | that worked, thank you |
| 19:25.33 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51784 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Convert mp3 files to wav for lolmacs |
| 19:25.53 | Dezzimal | someone needs to go slap the guys at curse :/ |
| 19:26.08 | Dezzimal | WAU has gotten slower since they lent a helping hand |
| 19:26.31 | cncfanatics | Balstor, it did ? sec |
| 19:27.18 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51785 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (BigWigs_ZulAman.toc ZulAmanBeta.lua): BigWigs: ZulAmanBeta: add log requests |
| 19:27.55 | cncfanatics | lemme test Balstor |
| 19:28.11 | cncfanatics | ur right$ |
| 19:28.13 | cncfanatics | weirdish |
| 19:28.15 | cncfanatics | very weirdish |
| 19:29.03 | Balstor | i also manualy duplicated a profile and tried to setprofile and it messed up, so i'm guessing in the setprofiile code |
| 19:29.26 | cncfanatics | nah it ain't, can't be that |
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| 19:30.23 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51786 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 19:30.23 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 19:30.23 | CIA-12 | - deDe Update for 1.9 |
| 19:30.28 | cncfanatics | it also resets positioning & stuff |
| 19:30.30 | cncfanatics | weirdish |
| 19:30.53 | Dezzimal | lots of 12. I am seeing "Error during update" on some addons! |
| 19:30.53 | Dezzimal | Update again - they should update fine. If not, then report the issue. |
| 19:31.00 | Dezzimal | grid installed ok |
| 19:31.06 | Dezzimal | but everything else won't go :( |
| 19:31.29 | Dezzimal | does WAU not like running on a saturated line? |
| 19:31.41 | cncfanatics | hmmm, the profile I coppied from resetted too |
| 19:31.43 | cncfanatics | weirdish weirdish |
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| 19:36.45 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. |
| 19:36.47 | Xee | Hey, any Prat users? |
| 19:37.04 | Balstor | this is a lot more fun then figureing out why my checkboxes in procwatch are to small |
| 19:37.57 | deltron | <3 prat |
| 19:38.45 | hyperChipmunk | purl: wb |
| 19:38.46 | purl | It's great to be back! |
| 19:38.49 | cncfanatics | Balstor, lol |
| 19:38.54 | cncfanatics | its a shitbug in the core somewhere |
| 19:39.03 | cncfanatics | in Enable() somewhere or any func it calls |
| 19:40.30 | cncfanatics | got ya |
| 19:41.13 | cncfanatics | Balstor, messy bug, should be fixed, damn hard to spot too |
| 19:41.30 | Balstor | so it was dressed in camo? |
| 19:41.34 | cncfanatics | kinda |
| 19:41.59 | cncfanatics | ya its fixed |
| 19:42.15 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51788 10BigWigs/Extras/ (CustomBar.lua Proximity.lua Test.lua Tranq.lua Version.lua): BigWigs: Extras: add esES by geran |
| 19:42.44 | Balstor | be rral nice when the fin wili includes the SetScript stuff with the UI objects description |
| 19:43.03 | Balstor | wow my fingers were off there |
| 19:43.09 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51789 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua Slashcommands.lua): FlexBar2: Fixed a nasty bug when enabling buttons |
| 19:43.11 | cncfanatics | now in english Balstor ? :p |
| 19:43.19 | Balstor | be real nice when the fin wiki includes the SetScript stuff with the UI objects description |
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| 19:44.27 | Balstor | like OnClick and OnEnter |
| 19:44.54 | cncfanatics | huh, what u mean ? |
| 19:46.10 | Xinhuan | i believe he means the Finnnish language version of the wiki |
| 19:46.13 | Tinyboom | stupid episode 2.... I want more,preferably now! |
| 19:46.27 | Balstor | this page http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API needs some list of Scripts you can set for each of UIObjects |
| 19:46.49 | Balstor | nvm just found the small link at the top |
| 19:47.19 | Balstor | I swear I'm going to esit this this some day and make it more obvious to the real information |
| 19:47.43 | kenlyric | http://www.wowwiki.com/Economical_engineering_training just to get to 300 |
| 19:47.48 | Xee | Wraaa th new autobar config is confusing |
| 19:48.01 | kenlyric | mt |
| 19:48.16 | Balstor | kenlyric don't you wish the goblin mortar reload was still broken :) |
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| 19:48.45 | Beutju | http://ace.pastey.net/75211 << can someone tell me, why when I write hugel in chat the line "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(" Wird automatisch ignoriert");" will be triggered 7 times? |
| 19:48.50 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51790 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Remove debugging code |
| 19:50.32 | Fisker- | everyone is going to die |
| 19:50.36 | Fisker- | CAUSE I WILL KILL YOU |
| 19:50.56 | Balstor | line starts around corner, bring your on weapon btw |
| 19:51.14 | chexsum | maybe because of 7 chat frames? |
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| 19:52.42 | Beutju | hm no when i manually /script xx it in wow it will add it only once |
| 19:52.55 | Beutju | and it should only do it into default, so first... |
| 19:53.01 | Beutju | should^^ |
| 19:53.27 | cncfanatics | Beutju, because its triggered 7 times |
| 19:53.34 | Beutju | yeah but why? |
| 19:53.45 | Beutju | i don't see the reason to be triggered 7 times |
| 19:55.05 | cncfanatics | cuz the event that triggers it triggers 7 times I guess |
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| 19:56.17 | Erica | Quick question... anyone have any idea about why bagbreak doesn't seem to work in onebank? It works in the other modules |
| 19:56.20 | NivFreak | Warlocks need a new ritual |
| 19:56.24 | NivFreak | ritual of summon guild bank |
| 19:56.25 | NivFreak | :) |
| 19:56.44 | Mech0z | Could the wowaceupdaters please make a "wtf cleanup method" so it deletes all wtf files from mods you dont have installed anymore |
| 19:56.53 | Mech0z | That would rock my world :) |
| 19:56.55 | Erica | It already has that |
| 19:56.58 | Mech0z | what |
| 19:57.00 | Xinhuan | Mech0z: it already has that feature |
| 19:57.02 | todd | lol |
| 19:57.03 | deltron | guild bank is going to be awesome with my banker toon only guild, since you can put stuff in there for prices |
| 19:57.07 | Mech0z | wtf |
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| 19:57.08 | Mech0z | :o |
| 19:57.25 | chexsum | ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler is called once for each frame that has a event registered, so if you have two ChatFrames showing whispers, ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER") will be called twice. |
| 19:57.33 | chexsum | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_chat_frames_to_modify_or_suppress_messages |
| 19:57.36 | NivFreak | wow |
| 19:57.41 | NivFreak | arcane shot dispells divine shield |
| 19:57.42 | NivFreak | =X |
| 19:57.50 | deltron | omg |
| 19:57.52 | deltron | that's OP :( |
| 19:57.54 | chexsum | cool |
| 19:57.55 | NivFreak | http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?file=/imagesfree/Deb07455.jpg |
| 19:57.57 | Mech0z | Does that cleanup function only check for acemods |
| 19:57.57 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51791 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Cyrez sucks |
| 19:58.10 | Erica | it checks for all mods |
| 19:58.14 | Mech0z | Nice |
| 19:58.40 | Beutju | chexsum, do you know how only to hook the first frame? |
| 19:59.05 | chexsum | read that page and use the first method |
| 19:59.33 | cryogen | cncfanatics: cyrez?! |
| 20:00.57 | chexsum | Beutju, prat int hard to understand |
| 20:01.18 | cncfanatics | cryogen, another mate of mine |
| 20:01.34 | cncfanatics | I always confuse the both of you :p |
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| 20:02.37 | chexsum | ooo ptr is up |
| 20:03.07 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ahh:) |
| 20:03.11 | cryogen | get him to reroll too |
| 20:03.26 | [W]LANFiRE | does any addon exists for frame level changing or lua editing only? |
| 20:03.54 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u try ? :p |
| 20:03.58 | [W]LANFiRE | nope |
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| 20:04.11 | [W]LANFiRE | its like DFM? |
| 20:04.12 | cncfanatics | try visor, Lanfire |
| 20:04.25 | [W]LANFiRE | already |
| 20:05.15 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51792 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Sc/Vashj: Update and track core distribution according to paralysis. Need (does it work?) feedback on this one. |
| 20:05.43 | todd | is there any alternative to Dash? dash seems to have problems with FuBar on the dashboard |
| 20:05.52 | todd | and it hasn't been updated in a while |
| 20:07.17 | cryogen | people need to reroll on kazzak horde |
| 20:07.17 | cryogen | tbh! |
| 20:07.31 | stavmar | uhm my average increasing rate for ACce 2.0 is 54, what am i doing wrong? |
| 20:08.12 | cncfanatics | cryogen, agree :) |
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| 20:09.51 | cncfanatics | ~dict dementation |
| 20:10.13 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51793 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: might need to actually warn *smackself* |
| 20:10.40 | cncfanatics | purl, bring me a sandwich |
| 20:11.22 | buu | cryogen: Why kazzak? |
| 20:11.32 | cryogen | why not? |
| 20:11.49 | buu | Dunno, have you ever heard of progression? |
| 20:11.53 | cryogen | its populated, and doesnt suck :) |
| 20:12.16 | Xinhuan | come US Blackrock, BG9 |
| 20:12.25 | Xinhuan | US #2 server |
| 20:12.38 | Xinhuan | in fact, i'm recruiting healers |
| 20:12.49 | Xinhuan | BT attunement is a bonus! |
| 20:13.01 | NivFreak | heh |
| 20:13.02 | nevcairiel | being US is prolly required? *shrug :P |
| 20:13.05 | cryogen | heh |
| 20:13.10 | Xinhuan | nope nev |
| 20:13.11 | cryogen | yeah i'll move house too! |
| 20:13.15 | NivFreak | who is our #1 then? :P |
| 20:13.16 | Xinhuan | being aussie is a requirement |
| 20:13.17 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 20:13.19 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 20:13.23 | Xinhuan | #1 is tichondrius |
| 20:13.23 | Keias | no ma'am? |
| 20:13.24 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 20:13.29 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 20:13.38 | buu | Xinhuan: Take my warlock =[ |
| 20:13.42 | NivFreak | so we're talking pvp |
| 20:13.48 | buu | Eww, aussies. |
| 20:13.51 | Keias | I'll reroll a healer, ginvite me |
| 20:13.52 | Keias | :D |
| 20:13.53 | Xinhuan | wowjutsu says we're #2 |
| 20:13.56 | Xinhuan | lol! |
| 20:14.02 | Keias | Even though I'm horde |
| 20:14.13 | Balstor | ZA is droppin 2 badges per kill |
| 20:14.21 | Keias | Balstor, even first boss? |
| 20:14.24 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:14.26 | NivFreak | 2 each |
| 20:14.27 | Keias | awesome |
| 20:14.36 | Xinhuan | so kill 5 = free nether |
| 20:14.38 | Keias | Kara bosses dropping also? |
| 20:14.51 | NivFreak | I doubt anyone is really in kara |
| 20:14.52 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 20:14.53 | Balstor | looks like it |
| 20:15.04 | NivFreak | 2 per boss in kara? |
| 20:15.06 | NivFreak | that'd be nuts |
| 20:15.09 | NivFreak | 20 badges in 3 hours |
| 20:15.15 | deltron | oh damn |
| 20:15.25 | sb_ | not free nether, free epix :/ |
| 20:15.27 | NivFreak | if that's true, I guess I'll keep farming kara for a bit |
| 20:15.31 | sb_ | and those epix are hot... |
| 20:15.36 | sb_ | > ssc loot |
| 20:15.40 | NivFreak | the tanking pants are hot |
| 20:15.42 | Balstor | wait here is one dropping 1 badge |
| 20:15.53 | NivFreak | Balstor: one where? |
| 20:15.59 | Keias | only new rewards I'm grabbing is the tanking pants and tanking/DPS cloak :( |
| 20:16.23 | NivFreak | I didn't really pay attention to the cloak |
| 20:16.25 | NivFreak | it looked feral focused |
| 20:16.25 | Balstor | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/curse_za_3.jpg |
| 20:16.27 | NivFreak | is it good? |
| 20:16.37 | Balstor | new warrior st looks sharp |
| 20:17.03 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:17.03 | Trell_ | wtf, Balstor |
| 20:17.11 | Trell_ | thats purchasable with BoJ |
| 20:17.22 | NivFreak | what is |
| 20:17.28 | NivFreak | the cape? |
| 20:17.30 | Trell_ | yeah |
| 20:17.32 | Trell_ | sec |
| 20:17.34 | NivFreak | I don't think so |
| 20:17.43 | Trell_ | [dory's embrace] crap name, great cloak |
| 20:17.44 | Balstor | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/heroic_armor.jpg |
| 20:17.46 | Trell_ | i said that earlier |
| 20:17.52 | Balstor | warrior is left one |
| 20:17.54 | NivFreak | oh wait |
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| 20:17.55 | NivFreak | 60 badges |
| 20:17.56 | Trell_ | after being in the ptr checking boj rewards |
| 20:17.56 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:18.08 | NivFreak | strange |
| 20:19.51 | NivFreak | meh |
| 20:19.56 | NivFreak | that tanking cloak is so-so |
| 20:20.03 | NivFreak | trade armor for stam |
| 20:20.08 | NivFreak | and some dodge |
| 20:20.18 | NivFreak | (over the gilden thorium cloak) |
| 20:20.25 | NivFreak | gilded even |
| 20:20.31 | Trell_ | i knew id seen that cloak before |
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| 20:21.10 | Trell_ | weird that its dropping in za |
| 20:21.16 | Balstor | off to drink see yall later |
| 20:21.28 | Josh_Borke | that's odd |
| 20:21.29 | Trell_ | our za got bugged too, the even started, and we wiped, then the bears were being all friendly and crap |
| 20:21.48 | Josh_Borke | lol, friendly |
| 20:22.01 | Trell_ | well, one of them wouldn't leave our pally alone |
| 20:22.06 | Trell_ | wasn't attacking him |
| 20:22.11 | Trell_ | just on follow, like a normal pet |
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| 20:22.42 | Keias | The tanking cloak looks exactly like the melee cloak from Moroes |
| 20:22.56 | Keias | The new spell dmg cloak is cool looking. Matches lock t5 |
| 20:23.11 | Synteur | yo dudes, any known workaround to this /sct menu crash on the ptrs? o.O |
| 20:23.26 | Trell_ | Josh_Borke: http://www.angelicknights.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10335/bugged_bear.jpg |
| 20:23.45 | chexsum | upgrade sct to parrot maybe ? |
| 20:24.22 | Funkeh` | upgrade? |
| 20:24.28 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 20:24.33 | chexsum | :P |
| 20:24.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:24.47 | nevcairiel | msbt > sct&parrot |
| 20:24.53 | Funkeh` | idd |
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| 20:25.28 | Kemayo | Last I used 'em, MSBT and Parrot seems almost exactly equivalent. Might have changed, though. |
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| 20:26.13 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r51794 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: BigWigs: spelling correction |
| 20:27.20 | kenlyric | Kemayo: basically |
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| 20:27.47 | kenlyric | msbt/parrot > sct |
| 20:28.33 | Cheads | parrot>msbt>sct =) |
| 20:28.52 | Kemayo | Let's just go with "it's a very personal decision". |
| 20:29.21 | Kemayo | (My wife likes the default blizzard floating text more than all the addons, for instance.) |
| 20:29.23 | Cheads | yah =) |
| 20:29.33 | Kemayo | (The divorce proceedings are going as you might imagine.) |
| 20:30.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: (so she's getting everything, then? :P) |
| 20:30.07 | Cheads | back in the days.. I changed from sct to msbt because msbt had some function I needed that sct has.. and the I moved to parrot eventually .. thought that was slicker =9 |
| 20:30.09 | NivFreak | awww |
| 20:30.14 | NivFreak | the changed the ZA NPC's name |
| 20:30.21 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: It's a flaw in the system. |
| 20:30.29 | NivFreak | it was Harisson Jones |
| 20:30.31 | art3mis | anyone know if the pony keg gives the good mana+stats brew you can buy or if its just the get drunk sampler brew? |
| 20:30.36 | Cheads | "uhmm that sct hadn't" |
| 20:30.37 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51795 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: tweak |
| 20:30.52 | Kemayo | This is why I should have insisted on a prenup. |
| 20:30.55 | art3mis | msbt> parrot ;P |
| 20:30.57 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: ot |
| 20:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | it's just booze to get you drunk |
| 20:31.10 | art3mis | bah |
| 20:31.13 | art3mis | that makes it lame |
| 20:31.15 | Balstor | art3mis pony keg gets you drunk, great to drop before a kael pull |
| 20:31.24 | art3mis | laugh |
| 20:31.33 | art3mis | dammit i wanted a portable mage |
| 20:31.47 | Killmore | haha I did the same thing on archimonde last night :P |
| 20:31.52 | Killmore | drop a pony keg |
| 20:32.10 | art3mis | at 475 tickets |
| 20:32.23 | art3mis | ill do the 12hour thingy in a little bit and should have my ram tomorrow |
| 20:32.24 | art3mis | yay |
| 20:33.01 | art3mis | did a 13 pass run on the kegs today too |
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| 20:35.15 | kenlyric | it's so strange to me, people *working* for a ram. |
| 20:35.22 | kenlyric | it's easily the worst mount in the game. |
| 20:35.33 | art3mis | http://www.woot.com/ |
| 20:35.34 | kenlyric | even talbuks have grown on me a little |
| 20:35.43 | art3mis | kenlyric: for horde thuogh its novelty |
| 20:35.47 | kenlyric | which are the second worst mount in the game, after horses. |
| 20:35.48 | art3mis | we cant get them normally |
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| 20:35.52 | Keias | YOU TAKE THAT BACK |
| 20:35.57 | Keias | Rams are beyond amazing |
| 20:35.58 | kenlyric | art3mis: yeah, I guess I get that. |
| 20:36.01 | art3mis | not to mention technically tis a "free" mount |
| 20:36.14 | kenlyric | Keias: yes, beyond amazing. so far beyond deep in the world of suck. |
| 20:36.17 | art3mis | if it was a mechanical yeti that would own so much more though |
| 20:36.23 | kenlyric | art3mis: it's still 100g, right? |
| 20:36.27 | Keias | The only mounts better than rams are the wolves |
| 20:36.31 | art3mis | a minature yeti that piggybacks you around |
| 20:36.45 | Keias | And yeah it's 100g |
| 20:36.48 | art3mis | im not sure if tis a epic mount or not |
| 20:36.55 | kenlyric | there's one of each |
| 20:36.59 | Keias | Correct |
| 20:36.59 | art3mis | i guess it depends onyer level |
| 20:37.00 | kenlyric | well, probably more than one. |
| 20:37.02 | kenlyric | but epic/normal |
| 20:37.04 | Keias | One of each |
| 20:37.09 | Keias | No different colors or anything |
| 20:37.19 | art3mis | so whats the deal with the quest |
| 20:37.26 | art3mis | do i have to buy it after the fact? |
| 20:37.28 | Keias | Yes |
| 20:37.31 | art3mis | oh gay |
| 20:37.37 | kenlyric | and you have to buy it while brewfest is going on. |
| 20:37.37 | Keias | You get the stamp and turn it in to the goblin guy next to the Keg quest |
| 20:37.43 | kenlyric | so if you're not 60 yet, buy both :) |
| 20:37.44 | Keias | and he gives you a new option to purchase a ram |
| 20:37.44 | art3mis | so i guess my only argument is novelty horde side |
| 20:37.52 | Xinhuan | does it still cost 200g? |
| 20:37.57 | Keias | 100g for epic |
| 20:37.58 | kenlyric | or, if you think rams are awesome alliance side. |
| 20:38.02 | art3mis | does is BOP? |
| 20:38.04 | art3mis | heh |
| 20:38.05 | Keias | Yes |
| 20:38.07 | art3mis | damn |
| 20:38.20 | Keias | kenlyric, my gnome warrior had a war ram back in the day :) |
| 20:38.26 | Keias | But now my female orc finally gets to sport one! |
| 20:38.28 | kenlyric | two most boring mounts in the game, ram and horse. And the fucking halaa folks MERGED them. |
| 20:38.36 | Keias | lol |
| 20:38.50 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51796 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (loottables.de.lua loottables.en.lua loottables.fr.lua): |
| 20:38.50 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:38.50 | CIA-12 | - Changed the name of a ZA boss |
| 20:38.50 | Keias | Horses are definately the worst |
| 20:38.50 | kenlyric | i'd rather ride the cock |
| 20:38.54 | kenlyric | at least it has color |
| 20:38.57 | Keias | Not the new one! |
| 20:39.00 | Keias | Its cum colored |
| 20:39.03 | Keias | The swift warstrider |
| 20:39.06 | kenlyric | neat! |
| 20:39.12 | Keias | Looks hilarious imo |
| 20:39.14 | kenlyric | that's the best kind of cock to ride? |
| 20:39.19 | Keias | lol I suppose |
| 20:39.22 | xylch | rofl |
| 20:39.22 | kenlyric | err, that was your moment of zen |
| 20:39.43 | art3mis | im not sure that "zen" factors in there |
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| 20:39.55 | Eggi | has anyone tested if you can use noggenfogger again in shadowform with 2.3? |
| 20:40.15 | art3mis | speaking of riding the cock... |
| 20:40.32 | art3mis | that was almost erie |
| 20:44.50 | Josh_Borke | wow |
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| 20:44.51 | Josh_Borke | just wow |
| 20:45.53 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: "eerie" |
| 20:45.54 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51797 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 20:45.54 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 20:45.54 | CIA-12 | - New ZA loot |
| 20:45.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "erie" is a proper name. |
| 20:47.52 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:47.56 | NivFreak | are the wow forums busted? |
| 20:48.05 | NivFreak | seems like there are no posts for a couple hours |
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| 20:53.53 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r51798 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: |
| 20:53.54 | CIA-12 | Prescription: |
| 20:53.54 | CIA-12 | - Fixed the flask table (should correctly identify flasks now) |
| 20:53.54 | CIA-12 | - Added self report option |
| 20:53.54 | CIA-12 | - Raid message format now matches whisper format |
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| 20:58.16 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51799 10AutoBar/ (10 files): |
| 20:58.16 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 20:58.16 | CIA-12 | -- 2.02.03.5 beta |
| 20:58.16 | CIA-12 | -- Fix button update issues / leak during updates & settings changes |
| 20:58.16 | CIA-12 | -- Disabling then reenabling a button needs reload to get popup again. |
| 21:00.12 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, how's autobar advancing ? |
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| 21:05.01 | Toadkiller | well i fixed the major underlying problem screwing up updates & stuff. Still need to make sure I caught all the side effects. |
| 21:05.09 | Toadkiller | Hey did u get popups going? |
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| 21:05.58 | Toadkiller | If you want I can publish my barebonses test mod to the svn... |
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| 21:07.26 | orionshock | morning all |
| 21:09.03 | Toadkiller | morning |
| 21:10.01 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, I haven't worked on ityet |
| 21:10.02 | orionshock | hiya Toadkiller |
| 21:10.30 | cncfanatics | I should but , don't rly ever feel like it |
| 21:10.44 | Toadkiller | lol, yeah the state stuff can be a nightmare |
| 21:11.08 | Toadkiller | Its a lot better now than when I first did it b4 tbc release tho |
| 21:11.59 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller |
| 21:12.11 | cncfanatics | immagine having to combine popups on click, popups on mouseover, shapeshifts & target remaps :/ |
| 21:12.31 | cncfanatics | and you should be able to enable one independantly of the other on any button |
| 21:13.08 | Grum | start coding it cncfanatics |
| 21:13.49 | cncfanatics | Grum, not today at least |
| 21:14.02 | CIA-12 | 03cossy * r51800 10AutoTurnin/ (AutoTurnin.lua AutoTurnin.toc AutoTurninGlobals.lua): |
| 21:14.02 | CIA-12 | AutoTurnin: |
| 21:14.02 | CIA-12 | - Fix for ZG-Quests turnin |
| 21:14.02 | CIA-12 | - Added deDE localization |
| 21:14.02 | CIA-12 | - Added Apprentice Angler turnin (Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza) |
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| 21:15.18 | Grum | cncfanatics: it's just 46 minutes today .. so prepare to start coding .. ^^ |
| 21:15.44 | cncfanatics | way too late to code |
| 21:15.55 | Toadkiller | lol yeah I need to get popups popups on mouseover, hide unless hovered over, hide unless modifier going |
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| 21:16.41 | Toadkiller | I got it pretty close but still need some magic sauce for when hovering over & then pressing & releasing the modifier that shows popups |
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| 21:16.54 | cncfanatics | nasty |
| 21:17.00 | cncfanatics | I'll need the same, minus modifiers |
| 21:17.11 | cncfanatics | can you give me the sauce when its done . |
| 21:17.23 | cncfanatics | (in a pastey preferably, with 2-3 fake example buttons ) |
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| 21:22.03 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. |
| 21:22.04 | art3mis | 4. im morally opposed to rock |
| 21:22.26 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: out of curiosity, what, precisely, are your moral objections? :P |
| 21:22.31 | art3mis | having rock anywhere screws up my ac2cart load |
| 21:22.37 | durcyn | morals have nothing to do with this, quit being so fucking dramatic |
| 21:22.40 | cncfanatics | about 1) not applicable with only FB, about 2) what ones ? might actualy try to fix em, 3) ok, valid, 4) meh |
| 21:23.04 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: mostly that it is nothing more than ckk's enhancements of ace under a different name because he got impatient and didnt wanna work with others |
| 21:23.17 | Ellipsis | and what's wrong with that? |
| 21:23.21 | NeoTron | anyone had the joy and pleasure of joinin the PTR char transfer queue yet? |
| 21:23.28 | art3mis | if i didnt have a shit tone of ace2 mods, nothing |
| 21:23.46 | art3mis | however while rock and ace2 may work together soemtimes it's not an always |
| 21:23.50 | Ellipsis | so you don't want to use an addon you really want to use, just because it uses a different framework than your other addons? |
| 21:23.56 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: fair enough, i was just wondering |
| 21:24.08 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: nods, it's not really a secret ;) |
| 21:24.12 | Ellipsis | I have been running both ever since Rock stuff went to trunk, and I have had zero issues |
| 21:24.14 | art3mis | i've been bitching about it for ages |
| 21:24.24 | NightHawkTheSane | possibly, but i'm forgetful and oblivious a lot of the time :) |
| 21:24.26 | cncfanatics | art3mis, it should be an always, I wonder whats fucking em up |
| 21:24.36 | art3mis | cncfanatics: thats the part i dont know |
| 21:24.45 | Ellipsis | indeed, if there are conflicts you should probably report the issues so they can be fixed |
| 21:24.56 | art3mis | with rock in there the ace2 cart loses some of its functions |
| 21:25.06 | Ellipsis | how so? |
| 21:25.09 | hyperChipmunk | i don't use cosmos mods, either |
| 21:25.10 | art3mis | ditto for fubar |
| 21:25.22 | Ellipsis | and why bother with the ace2 versions when you already have rock? |
| 21:25.31 | zerokarmaleft | some svn externals in GridStatusHealer are messed up |
| 21:25.31 | Tinyboom | Ellipsis: stealing my line:p |
| 21:25.39 | art3mis | just wierd little glitches now and again, but enough for me to just sit still |
| 21:25.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: i suspect you see #4 :P |
| 21:25.57 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 21:26.12 | durcyn | Ellipsis: some people aren't happy without something to gripe about |
| 21:26.14 | hyperChipmunk | rock is seriously painful to run, unfortunately >8\ |
| 21:26.21 | art3mis | durcyn: its a figure of speech, saying that whole "reason" over and over is tedious, eaier to say im morally opposed to it ;) |
| 21:26.23 | Ellipsis | I dunno, it seems silly to me to limit my addons based on an imaginary conflict and a moral opposition to a more efficient framework |
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| 21:26.31 | Ellipsis | but hey, it's your interface, do what you like |
| 21:26.32 | hyperChipmunk | it isnt' more efficient |
| 21:26.34 | durcyn | art3mis: no, you're fabricating politics |
| 21:26.40 | durcyn | art3mis: don't put make-up on it |
| 21:26.40 | hyperChipmunk | not by a longshot |
| 21:26.41 | art3mis | durcyn: not at all |
| 21:26.53 | Ellipsis | so there are no improvements over Ace2? |
| 21:26.59 | art3mis | if i was fabricating polotics i wouldnt tell ckk what i dislike about his addons in hopes that he fixes them |
| 21:27.00 | hyperChipmunk | it's not even in the realm of efficient |
| 21:27.01 | nevcairiel | sure there are |
| 21:27.06 | Tinyboom | it does what I want it too, so now we bring out the /popcorn and watch the drama unveil:p |
| 21:27.08 | art3mis | politics |
| 21:27.10 | nevcairiel | but do you still run ace2? |
| 21:27.25 | nevcairiel | if you answer with yes, then you could still run all ace2 versions of the mods :P |
| 21:27.30 | Ellipsis | art3mis: you haven't reported your issues afaik |
| 21:27.38 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: what tests have you been running to come to that conclusion? |
| 21:27.45 | art3mis | nevcairiel: i do, soemtimes rock plays nice other times..... |
| 21:28.04 | art3mis | ellipis: im less a log into a page and post bugs than sit in irc and talk to the person directly |
| 21:28.07 | hyperChipmunk | the test that it takes 2 seconds for my rock configs to show up when they used to be instant dropdowns |
| 21:28.17 | Ellipsis | art3mis, you're very vague about this "playing nice" thing, which makes me really wonder what if anything is going wrong |
| 21:28.26 | cncfanatics | hyperChipmunk, lol |
| 21:28.26 | hyperChipmunk | the code may be efficient |
| 21:28.33 | hyperChipmunk | but the user experience certainly is not |
| 21:28.40 | ckknight | when's the last time you used it? |
| 21:28.51 | Ellipsis | art3mis: wait, ckknight isn't on IRC? holy crap, I've been living a lie! |
| 21:28.57 | Tinyboom | hyperChipmunk: mine are instant:) |
| 21:29.19 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: maybe you didnt notice, but the answer you get is "post on jira" |
| 21:29.23 | Ellipsis | not always |
| 21:29.32 | art3mis | ellipsis: i ditches all rock related things. all my experience with it is the irritations of the rock config, watching errors pop up and "plugins not work for ace2 modules |
| 21:29.50 | art3mis | just for letting rock load |
| 21:30.05 | art3mis | i get rid of rock my irritation and erros go away |
| 21:30.08 | Ellipsis | art3mis: yes but by not reporting the errors and conflicts you are making it appear, at least, that you are only interested in the politics and not the code |
| 21:30.11 | art3mis | what does that lead you to believ? |
| 21:30.16 | orionshock | "hyperChipmunk>but the user experience certainly is not" one must wonder what polls you've been running w/o the rest of us knowning that prove this in any way. |
| 21:30.21 | art3mis | ido report them |
| 21:30.23 | orionshock | im a user and it's been a grate experiance |
| 21:30.29 | art3mis | ask ckk how often i bitch at him about rock |
| 21:30.36 | Ellipsis | general bitching != reporting errors |
| 21:30.42 | NightHawkTheSane | orionshock: a grate experience? really? what kind of grate? iron, bronze? |
| 21:30.44 | ckknight | you tend to just bitch at the channel, not provide suggestions |
| 21:30.50 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: cheese |
| 21:30.58 | orionshock | NightHawkTheSane: im playing AV, i can't really type... |
| 21:31.00 | ckknight | mmm... grated cheese |
| 21:31.01 | orionshock | you know what i ment |
| 21:31.06 | art3mis | ckknight: cuz some of the time you popup ;P |
| 21:31.11 | NightHawkTheSane | orionshock: and, i suppose for the record, I'm not overly fond of the "Rock user experience" myself, but meh. |
| 21:31.19 | ckknight | art3mis: and you couldn't address me directly or /msg me? |
| 21:31.40 | art3mis | im lazy when it comes to directly |
| 21:31.42 | ckknight | instead you have to insult me and my work in the channel for all to see |
| 21:31.49 | art3mis | no |
| 21:31.52 | art3mis | THEY started it |
| 21:31.58 | ckknight | not fond of that tactic, personally |
| 21:32.00 | art3mis | i just said i wished that fb2 didnt use rock |
| 21:32.02 | ckknight | they meaning you? |
| 21:32.06 | Tinyboom | but ckknight: please kick the asian localization someone that keeps on fucking up the code every time he commits:p |
| 21:32.14 | cncfanatics | art3mis, that means u started it by saying that |
| 21:32.29 | art3mis | if you'd prefer i stir up constant shitstorms about rock im more than capable ;P |
| 21:32.44 | art3mis | cncfanatics: thats assinine |
| 21:33.03 | art3mis | so you're saying that i cant comment about wishing something behaved differently for fear of the little flame baits that come because of it? |
| 21:33.25 | art3mis | puh-leez |
| 21:33.48 | Ellipsis | you're just going about it the wrong way |
| 21:33.52 | Ellipsis | "rock sucks" is not helpful |
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| 21:34.03 | Ellipsis | "i get x,y, and z conflicts when I run Ace2 and Rock together" is helpful |
| 21:34.08 | NightHawkTheSane | So, to completely change "the topic", this is a great flickr group.. http://www.flickr.com/groups/quoteabuse/ |
| 21:34.19 | Ellipsis | "I don't like how a, b, c work in Rock config" is helpful |
| 21:34.29 | orionshock | "art3mis>i just said i wished that fb2 didnt use rock" is a problem not with ckknight or Rock , but with FB2 and cncfanatics ... get you head on straight please |
| 21:34.35 | art3mis | Ellipsis: or perhaps "i dislike rock" doesnt need a "why" resposne |
| 21:34.53 | art3mis | orion read the whole convo because you interject fucktard comments |
| 21:34.54 | Toadkiller | Hey I must say I like the Rock config over waterfall... |
| 21:34.57 | Ellipsis | er, it does for something that's supposed to be completely invisible to the user |
| 21:35.04 | art3mis | Ellipsis: no it doesnt |
| 21:35.08 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: well, to be fair, if you dislike anything, and don't have a good "why" response, then you're just whining forthe sake of whining |
| 21:35.09 | cncfanatics | orionshock, its with both imo |
| 21:35.11 | art3mis | IT SUCKS is my personal opinion |
| 21:35.15 | zerokarmaleft | so checkout the source and rip out rock and replace it with waterfall |
| 21:35.31 | NeoTron | my guild raids tue-thu and sun |
| 21:35.40 | NeoTron | I hate having to wait until sun to go at Kael'thas again |
| 21:35.41 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: but to then accuse me of starting politics because of answer the "why" is assinine |
| 21:35.49 | Ellipsis | well you still have no right to badmouth Rock to other users based on imaginary conflicts |
| 21:35.56 | Chompers | hey ckk |
| 21:35.59 | ckknight | hey Chompers |
| 21:36.00 | art3mis | they arent imaginary |
| 21:36.02 | ckknight | how's it going? |
| 21:36.03 | art3mis | and yes i do |
| 21:36.04 | Chompers | did you see this weeks episode of mad men? |
| 21:36.08 | Ellipsis | art3mis: prove it? |
| 21:36.09 | ckknight | watching it now |
| 21:36.11 | art3mis | i can badmouth anything i wish |
| 21:36.15 | Toadkiller | say whats the magic sause for the first checkin of a mod? something appended or prepended to the checkin message iirc...? |
| 21:36.17 | Chompers | great end to the season |
| 21:36.17 | Ellipsis | give us an actual error message or specific issue? |
| 21:36.31 | ckknight | Toadkiller: NameOfAddon - initial commit\nDescription of addon |
| 21:36.39 | art3mis | well now that would require me putting in something that i dont want in my ui wouldnt it |
| 21:36.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: and if you don't give a description, we take your balls. |
| 21:36.49 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: give us any real reason to actually use Rock, and stop harrassing anyone who says he doesnt like rock :P |
| 21:36.51 | Toadkiller | sweet tx |
| 21:36.57 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 21:37.02 | Ellipsis | art3mis: you claim to have done it before, but have no actual memory of what you disliked other than "everything" |
| 21:37.26 | cncfanatics | can we stop the silly Rock - not Rock argument ? |
| 21:37.28 | art3mis | im not gonna eat catfood again to give you a detailed description of "why i dont like it" |
| 21:37.53 | Ellipsis | right, because the first time you tried it you didn't report your problems and immediately forgot about them |
| 21:38.00 | Ellipsis | very helpful to ckknight |
| 21:38.18 | art3mis | perhaps you're confused with your head up his ass licking his lower intestine |
| 21:38.23 | Ellipsis | lol? |
| 21:38.24 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight doesn't want help |
| 21:38.30 | orionshock | art3mis: then all you are is a raving lunatic, and should be ignored accordingly. |
| 21:38.31 | art3mis | i installed it it broke things i said fuck this and changed back |
| 21:38.36 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: coulda fooled me |
| 21:38.37 | ckknight | sure I do, hyperChipmunk |
| 21:38.43 | art3mis | orion" feel free. |
| 21:38.47 | hyperChipmunk | the whole point of rock was that it was better that he do things on his own than with help |
| 21:38.53 | ckknight | that's not true at all |
| 21:39.00 | Ellipsis | normally when I have an issue with an addon I actually contact the author in an effort to get it fixed |
| 21:39.27 | NightHawkTheSane | can't you both just shut up? :P |
| 21:39.29 | art3mis | "hey ckk ive got an issue with rock heres the error" "port it to jira" "why should i need to create an account to log and error when you're right here" "post it to jira |
| 21:39.33 | Ellipsis | ckknight doesn't refuse help, he welcomes bug reports from anyone |
| 21:39.44 | ckknight | art3mis: I use jira as a todo list |
| 21:39.55 | ckknight | things on jira will likely get resolved one way or another eventually |
| 21:40.01 | nevcairiel | so be nice to people, and copy paste their irc report in an ticket |
| 21:40.01 | Ellipsis | art3mis, if you really don't want to create a jira account, I'll post your bugs for you - I've done it for other lazy people |
| 21:40.02 | art3mis | ckknight: that wasnt actually directed at you btw |
| 21:40.05 | ckknight | if you tell me something on IRC, I'm honestly likely to forget |
| 21:40.27 | Xinhuan | We're planning to shrink the min range on ranged attacks to reduce or eliminate the "dead zone". The only point to the dead zone was to ensure the min range on ranged weapons was enough such that ranged weapon attacks wouldn't be used while also being melee'd (at least by mobs... players have a bit of slush built in). |
| 21:40.27 | ckknight | <3 to Ellipsis |
| 21:40.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: you could just post the jira item yourself... |
| 21:40.36 | orionshock | nevcairiel: why should one pander to those not willing to follow proccess? |
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| 21:40.54 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, huge pvp hunter buff ? |
| 21:41.01 | Xinhuan | seems so |
| 21:41.21 | orionshock | Xinhuan: they need to nerf hunters not buff them... i thought they got the memo |
| 21:41.22 | cncfanatics | get it from BabbleZone ? |
| 21:41.39 | nevcairiel | orionshock: users are always lazy, its just plain stupid to complain at users because they say "i didn like it, so i switched back after my first test", only because they didnt write an essay what was wrong :P |
| 21:41.41 | cncfanatics | s/get it from BabbleZone ?/wrong chan/ |
| 21:42.01 | zerokarmaleft | where do file bugs for projects not yet in jira? |
| 21:42.11 | ckknight | zerokarmaleft: contact the author directly |
| 21:42.31 | Ellipsis | usually those can be reported on the forums |
| 21:42.52 | ckknight | forums work as well |
| 21:43.12 | cncfanatics | zerokarmaleft: usualy forums, email, orc or wiki talk page |
| 21:43.17 | zerokarmaleft | not sure if pastamancer wrote this grid module |
| 21:43.37 | Ellipsis | which module? |
| 21:43.43 | ckknight | orc? |
| 21:43.53 | zerokarmaleft | GridStatusHealer |
| 21:44.09 | Ellipsis | what do you know, there's already a thread for that plugin :) |
| 21:44.14 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3871.0 |
| 21:44.14 | zerokarmaleft | some of the externals are linked to the developer svn repos |
| 21:44.20 | Ellipsis | probably an excellent place to post it |
| 21:44.46 | Mudkipz | anyone use t-moble? |
| 21:44.56 | RaydenUni | so talent builds are part of inspect now |
| 21:45.00 | RaydenUni | well, with 2.3 |
| 21:45.04 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51801 10AutoBarTest/: |
| 21:45.04 | CIA-12 | AutoBarTest: initial commit |
| 21:45.04 | CIA-12 | - This is a stripped down test of the AutoBar state machine. Requires reload for buttons to show up. This is a developer thang. |
| 21:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkipz: i do... |
| 21:45.13 | art3mis | http://files.filefront.com/setuput3demoexe/;8780713;/fileinfo.html |
| 21:45.22 | RaydenUni | so you can determine why someone in your pug is sucking so much by looking at their build |
| 21:45.27 | |Stan| | oh a developer thong |
| 21:45.43 | Kemayo | Are professions part of it, too? |
| 21:45.53 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, tyvm |
| 21:46.26 | CIA-12 | 03gnarfoz * r51802 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs - SC/Vashj - commas are evul! |
| 21:47.09 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: there's your feedback ^^ it didn't work ;D |
| 21:47.38 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz: You suck at feedback |
| 21:47.49 | Kemayo | Because I would love to end the days of "is anyone else a miner?" |
| 21:47.57 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51803 10AutoBarTest/ (AutoBarTest.toc Core.lua): |
| 21:47.57 | CIA-12 | AutoBarTest: |
| 21:47.57 | CIA-12 | -- The actual files |
| 21:48.16 | art3mis | laugh key |
| 21:48.25 | Toadkiller | Ok well i d othe imp |
| 21:48.25 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: ;-) missed a comma after the paralysis localization key or something |
| 21:48.29 | art3mis | or that fury warrior who put on a shield to get into a group as a tank ;P |
| 21:48.50 | art3mis | cuz he needed a drop off the first boss |
| 21:49.15 | Toadkiller | why would you dot the imp? |
| 21:49.24 | art3mis | hey toady, you still doing the beta and alpha? |
| 21:50.01 | art3mis | beta being current working copy alpha new and shiny advanced version |
| 21:50.04 | Toadkiller | lol no the alpha went beta but there was a major flaw i didnt see but thats fixed now so its almost to where I wanted it for the initial beta |
| 21:50.26 | art3mis | are you still ace2 *crosses fingers* |
| 21:50.53 | Toadkiller | It is ace2. I will be switching to some of the new libs, starting with the babble ones |
| 21:50.53 | art3mis | i think that needs to be a distinction on the wau as well.. |
| 21:51.01 | art3mis | goodie! |
| 21:51.13 | art3mis | scollr WAAAAAY up if you're curious as to why i ask heh |
| 21:51.41 | Toadkiller | The config is going to be Rock as soon as I have time. I dont really want to put dev effort into waterfall, rather put it into Rock config & then later Ace3 config if that makes sense |
| 21:52.09 | art3mis | sorta |
| 21:52.23 | art3mis | but why not just hook the autobarconfig addon that already exists? |
| 21:52.37 | art3mis | or is it changed that greatly |
| 21:52.39 | Toadkiller | Eh? |
| 21:52.54 | art3mis | well the config on past versions was fine |
| 21:52.57 | art3mis | why change it? |
| 21:53.26 | Toadkiller | Ah yeah it has changed a lot & I went waterfall style config to save myself dev time. the look of that sucks but it is fairly functional except for the part where it doesnt know how to drag & drop stuff |
| 21:54.56 | Toadkiller | Once the base mod is polished I will think about upgrading the config although I am liable to do that via making Rock config / Ace3 config nicer rather than reinventing the wheel. |
| 21:55.46 | |Stan| | Toadkiller: the drag and drop stuff is important for AutoBar |
| 21:56.18 | Toadkiller | Well the biggest thing wrong with the old config is the layered prefs. It was difficult to make it understandable & only a few rocket scientists understood it. |
| 21:56.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought it was pretty straightfoward, actually |
| 21:57.02 | Toadkiller | The new prefs are jsut a straight up list of buttons you enable / disable. |
| 21:57.03 | NightHawkTheSane | a little overkill, perhaps. |
| 21:57.41 | Toadkiller | Yeah but you are a rocket scientist... |
| 22:00.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ... indeed. |
| 22:00.47 | Ellipsis | fwiw, I could never quite figure out the layered stuff |
| 22:00.55 | Toadkiller | Yes drag & drop is important, thats why I hacked in some stuff to waterfall for that. It needs a lot more though so I am going to do it via Rock instead since it is already more advanced & seeing active development |
| 22:01.03 | Ellipsis | then again, I didn't end up trying all that long because I decided the addon wasn't what I wanted |
| 22:02.30 | kebinusan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/toplist/index.html?en beware the voidwalkers |
| 22:02.41 | Toadkiller | The layered stuff comes about because as an AutoBar user u need a basic set of buttons + a set of class specific buttons (mage water conjure etc.) + whatever custom buttons you want to make & possibly share across different users |
| 22:03.13 | Toadkiller | It s all logical except for the part where it makes no sense to 99% of the users |
| 22:03.24 | Ellipsis | no, I understand the concept |
| 22:03.35 | Ellipsis | I just couldn't figure out how to get what I wanted with the GUI config |
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| 22:04.14 | Ellipsis | it seemed not to be organized/labeled in a way that made it clear to me exactly where to click to accomplish a task |
| 22:04.17 | Toadkiller | Exactly, & I was basically unhappy with that GUI. Hence the new crack at it |
| 22:04.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: the one thing I didn't see in the new version of autobar is the ability to combine multiple uh "sets" (for lack of a better term) into a single button... |
| 22:04.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Like, in previous autobar versions, I have my mounts and hearthstone/portals all in one button |
| 22:04.50 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51804 10Waterfall-1.0/ (Waterfall-1.0.toc embeds.xml): Waterfall-1.0: use embeds.xml |
| 22:05.02 | Toadkiller | thats broken right now & I am busy fixing it, so in a coupla hours it will be back in |
| 22:05.19 | NightHawkTheSane | okay. That's more or less one of the big reasons I use autobar. :) |
| 22:05.26 | Kaydeethree | netsplits ahoy. good luck |
| 22:05.30 | *** join/#wowace Skips (i=Skippy@84-43-21-27.ppp.onetel.net.uk) |
| 22:05.34 | Skips | hello |
| 22:05.41 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, quick, everybody hold on to everyone else! |
| 22:05.47 | Skips | Please help me |
| 22:05.48 | Ellipsis | see you on the other side, guys! |
| 22:05.52 | aestil | Funkeh`: i'm the only person who ever reported that al'ars meteor timer seems off? |
| 22:05.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ... except you, Ellipsis, don't touch me! |
| 22:06.01 | kebinusan | ~grouphug |
| 22:06.02 | purl | ACTION hugs everbody and makes it all better... |
| 22:06.13 | Toadkiller | But baqsically you create your own category & add items to it, drag & drop from your bags or spell book onto the items in the list then add those categories to one of the custom buttons |
| 22:06.15 | Funkeh` | aestil: I have no idea |
| 22:06.25 | Corey | i like bacon |
| 22:06.28 | Funkeh` | aestil: Didn't I get get a transcript log last time? :) |
| 22:06.29 | Corey | remember that when you all leave |
| 22:06.31 | Skips | I have a couple of questions if you guys wouldnt mind? |
| 22:06.40 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 22:06.41 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 22:06.46 | aestil | i know, i failed at remembering to turn it on. |
| 22:06.53 | Ellipsis | ~fail aestil |
| 22:06.53 | purl | aestil: Fail. |
| 22:06.53 | kebinusan | ~ugt |
| 22:06.54 | purl | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 22:07.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: cool. will you be able to assign entire pt3 sets to custom categories/buttons? |
| 22:07.16 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.44 | Toadkiller | Yeah I totally want to do that & its on the deficiency list. Mostly I dont see a good way to do that via waterfall right now... |
| 22:07.47 | hyperChipmunk | kebinusan: astonishing how high king bangalesh remains |
| 22:08.34 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51805 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 22:08.34 | CIA-12 | .Babble-Spell-2.2 : |
| 22:08.34 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:08.50 | Ellipsis | hm, not the most patient question-asker I've seen |
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| 22:25.08 | Corgan | o lawd |
| 22:25.08 | NightHawkTheSane | epic? pfft. this is legendary. :P |
| 22:25.08 | Kaydeethree | netsplits... pain |
| 22:25.08 | Megalon | well, freenode staff announced it with a global notice :P |
| 22:25.08 | sylvanaar | i never read those |
| 22:25.08 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51806 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): .trunk: herb/mining remove dep |
| 22:25.08 | Trell_ | just watched 3:10 to Yuma, quite a good film |
| 22:25.52 | NivFreak | wh00t |
| 22:25.52 | NivFreak | character copy complete |
| 22:26.08 | Trell_ | grats! |
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| 22:29.32 | Trell_ | Bibi: mmo-champion.com - internal server error. |
| 22:29.40 | Trell_ | ah never mind, just damn damn slow |
| 22:29.54 | Mecdemort | ok if you set frame.highlight to a texture does blizz auto show it on mouseover or something? |
| 22:30.24 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 22:30.30 | Ellipsis | I think it's only buttons though |
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| 22:30.44 | Mecdemort | crazy |
| 22:30.53 | Mecdemort | thought i was maybe losing my mind |
| 22:31.19 | CIA-12 | 03evenue * r51807 10TradeskillInfo/ (4 files): |
| 22:31.19 | CIA-12 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 22:31.19 | CIA-12 | -Added about 120 recipes |
| 22:31.19 | CIA-12 | -Used embeds |
| 22:31.19 | CIA-12 | -Upgraded to abacus 3.0 |
| 22:31.20 | CIA-12 | -Added fubar plugin - it rides the shortbus right now, deal with it |
| 22:31.22 | CIA-12 | -various compatibility fixes |
| 22:31.46 | Mecdemort | is there any way to keep it from hiding? it's a unit button and if it is the same as 'target' then i dont want the highlight to hide |
| 22:32.02 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 22:32.05 | Ellipsis | you can disable it, but that's probably not what you want |
| 22:32.16 | Xinhuan | code it manually to :Show() and :Hide() |
| 22:32.18 | Xinhuan | is the only way |
| 22:32.22 | CIA-12 | 03evenue * r51808 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (TradeskillInfoUI.lua TradeskillInfoUI.toc): |
| 22:32.22 | CIA-12 | TradeskillInfoUI: |
| 22:32.22 | CIA-12 | -Various compatibility changes |
| 22:32.22 | CIA-12 | -updated toc |
| 22:32.31 | sylvanaar | ZOMG |
| 22:32.37 | sylvanaar | Copiez |
| 22:32.59 | sylvanaar | too busy |
| 22:33.24 | Mecdemort | hmm i'll need to name it something other than .highlight i guess then? |
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| 22:34.03 | Codayus | Failed at the last step twice now. Grr |
| 22:34.28 | Xinhuan | i believe anything on HIGHLIGHT layer will show/hide on mouseover automatically |
| 22:34.59 | Xinhuan | no idea about things on frame.highlight |
| 22:35.05 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51809 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: |
| 22:35.05 | CIA-12 | .SC : |
| 22:35.05 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.13 | Mecdemort | oh that's interesting |
| 22:35.16 | xystic | This is amazing... so you can do heroics, or Zul'Aman, to get badges and get gear which is better than T5? |
| 22:35.31 | Xinhuan | meaning, if you created a texture with CreateTexture("name", "HIGHLIGHT") |
| 22:35.37 | Xinhuan | then it will have that behavior |
| 22:35.54 | Mecdemort | ok, that'll simplify things, thanks |
| 22:36.01 | Xinhuan | but i have no idea about a texture that is assigned to frame.highlight specifically |
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| 22:36.17 | Mecdemort | the level makes more sense than the name |
| 22:37.02 | Mecdemort | yup it's the layer not the name |
| 22:37.15 | kebinusan | Removing hunter deadzone makes me :-/ |
| 22:37.19 | Xinhuan | as you can tell, quite a bit of text on the default UI has the fontstring on the HIGHLIGHT layers |
| 22:37.26 | Xinhuan | such as the rep bar |
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| 22:37.59 | NeoTron | xystic: not better, but equivalent |
| 22:38.10 | NeoTron | better only if you prefer the mix of stats (i.e haste for example) |
| 22:38.14 | NeoTron | ilevel is the same... |
| 22:38.16 | NeoTron | but yeah |
| 22:38.20 | sylvanaar | success!! |
| 22:38.28 | xystic | Ah, ok... yeah, I noticed that there is not much +block in a lot of the plate gear. |
| 22:38.31 | Codayus | DIAF. I mean...grats. |
| 22:38.43 | hyperChipmunk | kebinusan: "whups lol there's a deadzone? sry, didn't know; fix inc" |
| 22:38.47 | NeoTron | right. if you're defense-capped, the heroic gear is probably better.. |
| 22:38.48 | Mecdemort | well now i know how to make show-on-mouseover stuff, just put it all in highlight ;p |
| 22:39.00 | Xinhuan | did it work? |
| 22:39.40 | xystic | NeoTron: Still, it feels like they are moving in a good direction... the game is very solo/small-group friendly now... |
| 22:41.12 | Codayus | "The service youre trying to access is too busy right now, please check back another time." |
| 22:41.13 | Balstor | there is only one reason (gear wise) to raid now |
| 22:41.19 | Codayus | AH MUST STAB THINGS |
| 22:42.09 | Hook | I know, I want to copy a toon, too |
| 22:42.18 | kebinusan | Yeah I hate going through the 7 copy toon pages |
| 22:42.23 | kebinusan | only to get oops too busy try again |
| 22:42.33 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 22:43.02 | kebinusan | they should jsut implement some sort of queue, you are 90000 out of 100000234 in queue |
| 22:43.04 | kebinusan | please wait |
| 22:43.10 | Hook | lol |
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| 22:44.16 | Codayus | I hear reports that only the pve copies are really broken? |
| 22:44.18 | Codayus | :-/ |
| 22:44.22 | Hook | or they could just add a server or two hundred |
| 22:44.35 | Xinhuan | because every alliance player doesn't want the pvp fest at ghostlands |
| 22:45.07 | hyperChipmunk | lol portal loadtime |
| 22:45.13 | Ellipsis | WTB =[ |
| 22:45.36 | hyperChipmunk | there's gonna be a ring of hordies around that thing |
| 22:45.38 | Codayus | "Sorry, but there has been an error with your request." |
| 22:45.41 | baer_ | how accurate is "violation" ? |
| 22:45.57 | Codayus | ....I...guess that's better than server too busy? Or not? Hm.. |
| 22:46.17 | baer_ | according to this i did ~1400 dps in steamvault/heroic. oO |
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| 22:48.05 | hyperChipmunk | i frickin' hate that peon |
| 22:49.17 | Balstor | great |
| 22:49.38 | Balstor | Vent: This server has been remotely disabled. |
| 22:49.50 | Balstor | buess i got to use blizzards stuff now |
| 22:49.59 | Ellipsis | ew |
| 22:49.59 | Hook | "Average wait time: 4 Days" |
| 22:50.01 | Hook | 0.0 |
| 22:50.25 | Balstor | apparently nrgservers.com got their license pulled |
| 22:51.10 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 22:51.13 | Ellipsis | how? |
| 22:51.34 | Balstor | not sure yet said go to ventrilo.com to find out |
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| 22:52.56 | Balstor | To make matters worse NRG is now 4 weeks past due on their Ventrilo license fee as of this writing. And that’s just for August. We hold little hope of receiving it or September’s license fee either. |
| 22:53.08 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 22:53.45 | Balstor | In either event NRG’s license is done. Sadly we are being forced to contact our attorney on this issue. |
| 22:53.55 | Ellipsis | owned |
| 22:54.27 | Balstor | http://ventrilo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22555 |
| 22:54.46 | Balstor | yhea once the dogs are let loose someone is going to get bit |
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| 22:59.02 | Ellipsis | man, that is seriously stupid on NRG's part |
| 22:59.04 | hypetech | I'm going to drop my computer out the window the next time I get kicked out at the last step of character copy :( |
| 22:59.21 | Balstor | where do i need to park so i can catch it? |
| 22:59.33 | hypetech | Louisville, KY |
| 22:59.34 | CIA-12 | 03linsu * r51810 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2.toc: Buffalo2: update zhTW translate |
| 22:59.36 | Antiarc | "We're planning to shrink the min range on ranged attacks to reduce or eliminate the "dead zone". The only point to the dead zone was to ensure the min range on ranged weapons was enough such that ranged weapon attacks wouldn't be used while also being melee'd (at least by mobs... players have a bit of slush built in)." |
| 22:59.37 | Antiarc | ..... |
| 23:00.05 | hypetech | whoa |
| 23:00.11 | hypetech | where'd you read that? |
| 23:00.18 | Xinhuan | blue post |
| 23:00.21 | Xinhuan | posted a while back |
| 23:00.32 | hypetech | have a link to a source? |
| 23:00.36 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366566665&sid=1&pageNo=15#281 |
| 23:01.00 | Balstor | where are my warrior buffs again *starts looking high and low*** |
| 23:01.08 | Xinhuan | basically, they want to make it such that there's no deadzone |
| 23:01.17 | Antiarc | Balstor: Uh, you mean like the Imp Zerker Stance, Whirlwind, and Sweeping Strikes buffs? |
| 23:01.19 | Xinhuan | but hunters should still not be able to melee and range at the same time |
| 23:01.41 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51811 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Added zone-dropdown to the create route dialog. [TODO #3: Done] |
| 23:02.16 | weab | i like the deadzone |
| 23:02.42 | ulic | so it's confirmed that season 3 will come with 2.3? |
| 23:02.59 | Xinhuan | not confirmed |
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| 23:05.43 | Codayus | I believe what was confirmed was that the rewards will be patched in, and S3 will start at some later point. |
| 23:05.46 | charon | morning |
| 23:06.29 | Balstor | Antiarc, All of that -threat + 50% damage on whirlwind was counterbalanced by loosing deathwish |
| 23:06.53 | Balstor | and sweeping strike , big deal, can't use it on trash and on bosses it does nothing |
| 23:07.12 | Antiarc | You can use SS any time you can use WW. |
| 23:07.29 | Balstor | and on a single mob it does nothing |
| 23:07.55 | Antiarc | On multiple mobs it doubles your damage output for 10 strikes every 30 sec. |
| 23:07.59 | Antiarc | That's nothing to sneeze at. |
| 23:08.18 | Balstor | in order to SS to do something a 2nd mob has to be in melee range and almost all trash has sheeps |
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| 23:08.36 | Antiarc | Yeah, I play a combat rogue, and I manage to use blade fluury. |
| 23:08.42 | Antiarc | So it can be done. |
| 23:08.43 | Codayus | It'll help for a fair few T5 encounters, off the top of my head... |
| 23:08.53 | Balstor | yhea out srsly who in any guild says bring Joe over there his boss dps is crap but man can he dps on trash..... |
| 23:08.59 | Antiarc | And it is singlehandedly responsible for my ability to stay competitive in multipulls. |
| 23:09.08 | Antiarc | *rolleyes* |
| 23:09.27 | NeoTron | we've gotten transfers initiated for three people in our zul'ama excursion team now |
| 23:09.29 | Antiarc | Yes, losing DW was a nerf. |
| 23:09.52 | Antiarc | But warriors are not exactly hurting for viability in any part of the game. |
| 23:09.52 | Balstor | al'ar no effect Voidreaver no effect Kael will help a little on wepons solarian a little on spawns |
| 23:10.01 | Codayus | Balstor: guilds sometimes take mages over rogues for, essentially, exactly that reason. Don't forget, a lot of bosses have more than one mob. :-) |
| 23:10.10 | Balstor | but deathwish to burn the boss or catch up was more important |
| 23:10.38 | Balstor | yhea but mages are the pimp mac daddy at AOE (followed by locks) |
| 23:11.38 | Balstor | I get a 2 target AOE and a 4 target every 8-10 seconds, yhea I don't think a raid leader cares, esp. if AOE is an issue you just drop a mage in that can make all that look like the joke it is |
| 23:12.08 | Codayus | And thread reduction is a BIG buff... |
| 23:12.21 | Bejitt | threat reduction -> more HS |
| 23:12.24 | Balstor | also loose the classic DW+reckelness + execute |
| 23:12.36 | Balstor | aladin buff == no threat issues |
| 23:12.41 | Balstor | Paladin buff == no threat issues |
| 23:12.49 | Bejitt | not necessarily |
| 23:12.51 | Balstor | grrr finger brain not connected tonight |
| 23:13.07 | Bejitt | even w/ salv, i have major issues on VR |
| 23:13.13 | Bejitt | even w/ 3 druids tanks..! |
| 23:13.18 | Balstor | also our shamans are good enough to keep windfury and tranquil air down |
| 23:13.38 | Balstor | yhea but VR is a trick fight involving threat, no suprise there |
| 23:13.42 | Bejitt | *or tranquil |
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| 23:13.59 | Codayus | Balstor: If you don't have threat issues with salvation, you need better gear! :-D (Okay, an exageration. But. Gear changes, and some margin on the threat cap will be good at some point no matter what...) |
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| 23:15.14 | Balstor | well it would have been when i was running 1000 dps but losing DW was a big part and loosing Windfury and the haste nerf |
| 23:17.34 | Balstor | At this point the PVE warrior is so weak im going to order our last one to respec into defiance, if we need melee dps i will just get an extra druid |
| 23:17.56 | Bejitt | based on.. speculation that they 'suck' now? :( |
| 23:19.04 | Codayus | The Death Wish change hasn't gone live yet, and may not. Bliz has posted that there are more changes for some classes coming, and even if they hadn't, part of the purpose ofthe PTR is to test this stuff so it can be changed. :-) |
| 23:19.08 | Balstor | based on the numbers i ran using a couple of wws logs from fights. Their overall dps is dropping in the last 2 patchs and this next nerf means I need a reason to justify them in the raid. |
| 23:20.20 | Balstor | i know that Codayus but i also know blizzard has a long history of not listening to warrior concerns. If something happens then yhea I will change my view,but, based on the current patch notes their is some respecing going on |
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| 23:21.38 | Bejitt | wtb better character copy interface |
| 23:22.19 | Bejitt | 'something went wrong, hit this button that sends you back a page' *try again* 'error, dont use the browser back button next time' |
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| 23:23.13 | kebinusan | anyone on the pvp ptr alliance side doing ZA? |
| 23:23.19 | hypetech | ya good luck with taht Bejitt, I've been trying for 2 days |
| 23:23.33 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:23.49 | hypetech | sup ck |
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| 23:23.59 | hypetech | fix blizzard's char copy app :) |
| 23:24.09 | Toadkiller | say, are only certain people allowed to commit to for example AceConsole-2.0.lua? |
| 23:24.10 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51812 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: add Zul'Aman Bosses |
| 23:24.19 | Funkeh` | Toadkiller: yes |
| 23:24.22 | Bejitt | there are.. 4 steps, and it's hard to tell exactly which one it'll say it's too busy to do |
| 23:24.45 | Toadkiller | So who do I blow to make AceConsole-2.0.lua stop choking on the dragLink type? |
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| 23:26.43 | Funkeh` | Toadkiller: I don't think anyone cares, take it to Ace3 |
| 23:26.49 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 23:26.54 | Funkeh` | jira |
| 23:27.35 | Gagorian- | anyone know the stats for the new arena season 3 spellblade? |
| 23:27.40 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 23:27.45 | Ellipsis | anone here use Modality? |
| 23:28.40 | Ellipsis | oh btw Gagorian, while you're here - is there some reason SoulJarFu doesn't have hideWithoutStandby? I'd kinda like it <3 |
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| 23:35.18 | Corey | are there any xp addons with the same kind of bubble look? |
| 23:35.54 | Mecdemort | is there something i have to do after calling SetBackdrop() to get a border to show up? |
| 23:36.14 | Balstor | set the color? |
| 23:37.03 | Balstor | from my code: |
| 23:37.04 | Balstor | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.05 | Balstor | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.07 | Balstor | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.09 | Balstor | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.10 | Balstor | L02_edb_0:SetBackdropColor(0,0,0,1); |
| 23:37.20 | Balstor | normally tile size is 16 for those btw |
| 23:37.47 | Mecdemort | still not showing up |
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| 23:39.00 | Mecdemort | oh nvm i see why |
| 23:39.05 | Balstor | ?? |
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| 23:40.05 | Balstor | you ever find a good solution to moving edge file around let me know, i'm thinking about putting frames inside of frames to get them spaced like i want |
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| 23:41.47 | Mecdemort | hmm it's inside out |
| 23:42.06 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 23:42.12 | Mecdemort | it looks like ][ instead of [] |
| 23:42.27 | Ellipsis | like that cowtip bug? |
| 23:42.37 | Mecdemort | dunno havnt used cowtip |
| 23:42.55 | Corey | so about that xp bar? and is there a mod that makes aguf show the countdown of buffs/debuffs the greying out clockwise as it expires |
| 23:43.26 | Ellipsis | http://www.abload.de/img/wowscrnshot_072007_222621xc5.jpg |
| 23:43.38 | Toadkiller | Balstor those insets are unlikely to look good... |
| 23:43.45 | Mecdemort | not quite that bad |
| 23:44.05 | Mecdemort | let me get a pic |
| 23:44.10 | Balstor | yhea but the insets are only for the backdrop i need to move the edges |
| 23:45.21 | Mecdemort | http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1653/fubarborderdo6.jpg |
| 23:45.34 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 23:45.38 | Ellipsis | how wide is that frame? |
| 23:45.55 | Balstor | I already trimed it by altering the tile size down to 8 so it wasn't so fat but when i set it on top of my edit box the letters run into the border. thus why i'm thinking of makeing a frame around the edit box and setting the backdrop on the frame |
| 23:45.57 | Mecdemort | 1 so i could see the border, it's not changing size with the frame |
| 23:46.17 | Ellipsis | er, so it looks the same if your frame is a normal width? |
| 23:46.21 | Corey | anyone? |
| 23:46.26 | Mecdemort | naw if it's normal you cant even see the border |
| 23:46.33 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 23:46.37 | Ellipsis | clearly you broke it |
| 23:46.46 | Mecdemort | should i make the insets negative so the border is outside the frame? |
| 23:46.55 | Ellipsis | no, that's not what inset does |
| 23:47.02 | Ellipsis | pastey your codez imo |
| 23:47.04 | Balstor | yhea mecdemort I had a similiar issue on really small sizes less than 8 the tile size on the edge file is to big |
| 23:47.21 | Mecdemort | k 1 sec |
| 23:47.59 | Balstor | mecdemort I quote which i learned the hard way:insets-Controls how far into the frame the >>>>background<<<< will be drawn |
| 23:48.07 | Kody- | Hmm, is there a way to print a spell's tooltip based on the ID? |
| 23:48.13 | Balstor | took me 30 minutes of playing to finally read that word |
| 23:48.13 | Mecdemort | ah, i dont have a backdrop background |
| 23:48.21 | Mecdemort | http://ace.pastey.net/75228 |
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| 23:48.31 | Balstor | yhea but insets have zero effect on the edge texture |
| 23:48.34 | Mecdemort | i just want the border, no background, but the border is inside the frame and hidden by it |
| 23:49.55 | Ellipsis | then increase the inset |
| 23:50.45 | Ellipsis | Kody-: pretty sure you'd have to create a hidden tooltip to get the info |
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| 23:52.33 | Mecdemort | screw it, borders are overrated anyway |
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| 23:57.13 | Balstor | The EdgeSize parameter on the frame's backdrop indicates how wide the image will be stretched on to the frame. |
| 23:59.54 | Mecdemort | ok it's no longer messed up, but the border is inset in the frame instead of on the border... |
