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| 00:13.43 | Trell_ | forgot how long and boring BRD was |
| 00:13.48 | Trell_ | and is |
| 00:15.27 | Paradox | are there any such addons that list all possible recipes for your profession and perhaps list what you have and specifically don't have so you can trot around completing your recipe list? :P |
| 00:15.43 | Paradox | possible with pen & paper + wowhead but it's inefficient and slow! |
| 00:15.54 | nogudnik | Paradox: try TradeSkillInfo or AckisRecipeList |
| 00:16.12 | Paradox | :blink: |
| 00:16.20 | Paradox | I wasn't expecting there to be any D: |
| 00:16.27 | Xinhuan | you thought wrong ;p |
| 00:16.35 | Xinhuan | there's actually 2 or 3 others on top of those nogudnik listed |
| 00:16.41 | Xinhuan | RecipeRadar is another |
| 00:16.50 | Paradox | what's the best? |
| 00:17.06 | Xinhuan | i'll say try TradeSkillInfo or Ackis |
| 00:17.12 | Xinhuan | reciperadar isn't maintained anymore |
| 00:17.14 | Xinhuan | by the author |
| 00:17.14 | RaydenUni | hi |
| 00:17.15 | Trell_ | Ackis is good |
| 00:17.21 | Trell_ | and still being worked on |
| 00:17.25 | Xinhuan | ackis is fairly new and is still receivin daily updates |
| 00:17.28 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath zique |
| 00:17.31 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Zique, Level 70 Troll Mage (56/5/0). 6353 HP; 9686 Mana; 168 mana regen; 50 mp5; 279 spell crit; 644 +spell dmg; 5.10% dodge;[[ TBR: 799 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cvqph ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ulcc4 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 20:20:56 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:17.36 | Kuja^ | hmm it isn't? aww |
| 00:17.38 | Xinhuan | but because its fairly new you will have to expect incomplete lists or some bugs |
| 00:17.39 | RaydenUni | thoughts on how well that mage is equipped as a pre/just beginning KZ? |
| 00:17.46 | Paradox | ill try TradeSkillInfo then |
| 00:17.48 | RaydenUni | as well as talent build? |
| 00:17.49 | Paradox | thanks a *lot* |
| 00:18.02 | Paradox | i'm an insane completist.. this is going to rock |
| 00:18.07 | [gk]Hotphoenix | other one i know of is tradejunkie |
| 00:18.10 | Xinhuan | looking, ray |
| 00:18.13 | RaydenUni | thanks |
| 00:18.21 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 00:18.21 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 00:18.29 | Paradox | now all I need is some kind of reputation version that shows ways to get rep with the factions and how many dungeon runs etc until next rank etc! |
| 00:18.44 | Trell_ | Paradox theres one of those too |
| 00:18.46 | Trell_ | erm sec |
| 00:18.49 | Trell_ | a web based one |
| 00:18.50 | Xinhuan | what exactly are you asking RaydenUni? |
| 00:18.52 | Xinhuan | about that mage |
| 00:18.53 | Stanzilla | Paradox: http://wowreputationcalculator.com/ |
| 00:18.58 | Trell_ | thats it |
| 00:19.00 | Paradox | well yes I know the web based one :( |
| 00:19.10 | Trell_ | theres one in game too |
| 00:19.14 | Paradox | it's also only TBC! |
| 00:19.15 | Trell_ | but i cant remember what its called |
| 00:19.24 | Paradox | true completists want pre-tbc faction rep too! |
| 00:19.30 | RaydenUni | Xinhuan is it a decent talent build? and how well geared for starting KZ? |
| 00:19.39 | Xinhuan | ok here is my thoughts on that mage |
| 00:20.02 | Xinhuan | 1. he is using multiple blue pieces that are lvl 67 or so - and has put in no effort on gearing himself up from lvl 70 blues |
| 00:20.13 | Xinhuan | he is using multiple lowbie quest rewards |
| 00:20.22 | Xinhuan | 2. he is using crap gems |
| 00:20.37 | Xinhuan | crap as in 8 Int gems, and RADIANT talasites in his helm?? |
| 00:20.39 | Xinhuan | is he crap or what |
| 00:20.49 | Xinhuan | who the heck needs spell penetration as a mage |
| 00:21.05 | Xinhuan | 3. his spec is 56/5/0, which is a retarded spec |
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| 00:21.36 | Xinhuan | if he is serious about going arcane spec, he should be 48/13/0 |
| 00:21.40 | Paradox | how do I get the TradeSkillInfo window up? |
| 00:21.52 | Xinhuan | also arcane spec isn't viable until you obtain 2 pc T5 |
| 00:21.55 | nogudnik | type /tsi |
| 00:22.00 | Xinhuan | which increases arcane blast damage by 20% |
| 00:22.08 | Paradox | it's saying /help for available commands |
| 00:22.14 | Paradox | no such command, apparantly |
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| 00:22.25 | RaydenUni | yeah NeoTron |
| 00:22.38 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: arcane spec is ok prior to that and for some people it works better |
| 00:22.40 | RaydenUni | i think many of the people in my guild think there is nothing more to talent builds thatn customizing |
| 00:22.53 | NeoTron | we had a mage that was mediocre as fire/frost and really started to shine when he switched to arcane spec |
| 00:22.59 | RaydenUni | that there are no widely recognized better builds |
| 00:23.01 | Xinhuan | neotron: from a dps point of view, it is lower dps than fire or frost until you obtain 2 pc t5 |
| 00:23.02 | NeoTron | he didn't have 2xT5 at the time at least |
| 00:23.09 | NeoTron | perhaps |
| 00:23.09 | NeoTron | but |
| 00:23.15 | Xinhuan | however for 5mans, arcane > fire or frost |
| 00:23.19 | NeoTron | without spell hit I am not convinced |
| 00:23.23 | Xinhuan | because you can drink a lot between pulls |
| 00:23.30 | NeoTron | notice the dude has zero spell hit |
| 00:23.34 | Xinhuan | so your experience may be skewed |
| 00:23.35 | Trell_ | Paradox: GrindStatus |
| 00:23.36 | Trell_ | I think |
| 00:23.50 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: because.. I run 5-mans so much? ;-) |
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| 00:23.57 | Trell_ | Detailed status display and reward lookup for reputation grinds. |
| 00:23.58 | NeoTron | !c us Kilrogg Aminai |
| 00:24.00 | Paradox | anyone know why /tsi won't work? |
| 00:24.00 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Aminai, Level 70 Human Warlock (2/41/18). 9466 HP; 8415 Mana; 113 mana regen; 194 spell crit; 149 spell hit; 904 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (958); 215 shadow dmg (1119); 4.59% dodge; 13 resilience;[[ TBR: 1038 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2h7sf9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jtd3c ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 20:27:26 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:24.03 | Xinhuan | for raiding karazhan, arcane isn't ideal either, as curator is arcane immune and half the trash to him are resistant to arcane |
| 00:24.07 | Paradox | just installed it via WAU and reloaded my game |
| 00:24.07 | RaydenUni | i probably shouldn't show you guys my stuff |
| 00:24.09 | Trell_ | i'm pretty sure thats it, but I can't recall if thats the right one |
| 00:24.12 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 00:24.22 | Trell_ | Paradox exit game |
| 00:24.23 | RaydenUni | maybe i'll go do a quest or two and get some items |
| 00:24.24 | Trell_ | not just reload |
| 00:24.31 | RaydenUni | and respec |
| 00:24.34 | Xinhuan | well you asked for comments RaydenUni :) |
| 00:24.40 | RaydenUni | Xinhuan i appreciate it |
| 00:24.40 | Xinhuan | i gave honest replies ^^ |
| 00:24.43 | RaydenUni | that's what i wanted to hear |
| 00:24.52 | RaydenUni | just trying to get a feel for how well my guildmates are doing things |
| 00:24.52 | Paradox | that's what I mean, trell |
| 00:24.55 | Xinhuan | the 5 points in impact is just totally out of whack/place |
| 00:24.59 | Paradox | apparantly I only installed the UI module |
| 00:25.02 | NeoTron | typically though at that gear levell atleast, fire spec is better |
| 00:25.03 | Xinhuan | its not a pvp spec or a pve spec |
| 00:25.05 | RaydenUni | the warlock had some pretty stupid build decicions apparently as does the rogue and the warrior |
| 00:25.05 | Xinhuan | its just... random |
| 00:25.18 | NeoTron | but with 13% spell miss chance is it really the case? |
| 00:25.45 | RaydenUni | http://raydenuni.com/wow/logs/wws-20071022-0205/ <-- logs from Attumen last night |
| 00:25.56 | NeoTron | i.e has someone compared deep fire with deep arcane when the player has zero hit from equipment? |
| 00:25.59 | RaydenUni | the mage is leading dps by quite a bit |
| 00:26.14 | RaydenUni | but like i said the lock and the warrior were using funky builds |
| 00:26.18 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: which we already informed you is not so much because of the mage but because of the others |
| 00:26.21 | Xinhuan | that is because arcane talent has +10% arcane spellhit |
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| 00:26.22 | NeoTron | :) |
| 00:26.26 | RaydenUni | yeah i know NeoTron |
| 00:26.28 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I know that |
| 00:26.30 | NeoTron | that is my point |
| 00:26.34 | RaydenUni | i'll come and talk to you guys again after we run again |
| 00:26.44 | Xinhuan | however it is also a strain on mana in boss fights |
| 00:26.47 | RaydenUni | seems like maybe i ought to be doing some more damage |
| 00:26.49 | NeoTron | specifically for this mage, with a shadow priest + no spell hit, would fire really be better? (until he has better spell hit) |
| 00:27.08 | Xinhuan | that is arguable actually NeoTron |
| 00:27.10 | RaydenUni | i need more hit and a few items NEED to be replaced |
| 00:27.43 | NeoTron | he has 3.9% miss rate |
| 00:27.43 | Xinhuan | i'll say its not very conclusive |
| 00:27.47 | NeoTron | due to the arcane talent |
| 00:27.54 | NeoTron | and with AM, you only miss 1 second worth of dps |
| 00:28.00 | Paradox | mm, TradeSkillInfo claims I know all alchemy recipes.. which I know I don't |
| 00:28.02 | Xinhuan | dependant on your AB-cast rotation |
| 00:28.06 | Paradox | do I have to have seen them previously? |
| 00:28.13 | NeoTron | he doesn't seem to use AB much at all |
| 00:28.21 | NeoTron | looking at the dmg meters it's almost all AM |
| 00:28.35 | Xinhuan | is he using a MSD meta gem? |
| 00:28.45 | Xinhuan | because currently a "bug" exists with that meta gem in patch 2.2 |
| 00:28.53 | Xinhuan | that makes AM spam > any possible mage spec currently |
| 00:28.59 | Trell_ | Paradox, switch TSI for AckisRecipeList |
| 00:29.00 | NeoTron | nope no meta gem |
| 00:29.08 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Zique |
| 00:29.09 | Trell_ | and see if that works better for you |
| 00:29.12 | Paradox | ok |
| 00:29.29 | pakoz | anyone else had trouble with elkano's buff bars on test server? |
| 00:29.35 | pakoz | PTR, i should say |
| 00:29.43 | RaydenUni | ok, new character |
| 00:29.48 | NeoTron | really pretty much the worst gems possible though |
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| 00:29.51 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath tombaraj |
| 00:29.52 | Paradox | do you know of any addons like an advanced tradeskill window by the way, trell? bigger window, queueing functionality etc maybe? |
| 00:29.54 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Tombaraj, Level 70 Troll Priest (23/38/0). 7571 HP; 9030 Mana; 331 mana regen; 157 mp5; 89 +spell dmg; 1477 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 57 resilience;[[ TBR: 798 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zocj6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2j2alr ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 20:33:20 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:29.57 | RaydenUni | this guy knows what he is doing i think |
| 00:30.01 | NeoTron | and crit/int enchant vs spell dmg or spell hit |
| 00:30.05 | RaydenUni | but i haven't looked at his build |
| 00:30.25 | Xinhuan | that's a priest rayden :) |
| 00:30.29 | Trell_ | ATSW? |
| 00:30.33 | RaydenUni | i know |
| 00:30.49 | Paradox | i'm using that now, but it's buggy and hasn't been updated for a long time from what I can tell |
| 00:30.56 | RaydenUni | i think that's the only experience 70 who ran with us i haven't linked though |
| 00:31.03 | NeoTron | the priest has a good spec |
| 00:31.05 | RaydenUni | i'm just looking at my guildmates builds |
| 00:31.16 | Trell_ | Skillet |
| 00:31.17 | Xinhuan | you can replace ATSW with Skillet |
| 00:31.20 | NeoTron | and pretty good gear too |
| 00:31.27 | Trell_ | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Skillet |
| 00:31.42 | RaydenUni | yeah he's the guild leader and has played a bunch of characters and always seems to know what he's talking about |
| 00:31.58 | Xinhuan | its not hard to sound like you know your stuff ;p |
| 00:32.19 | NeoTron | so yah he's solid spec and gear |
| 00:32.35 | Paradox | wow thanks Trell |
| 00:32.38 | Paradox | I love you ;o |
| 00:32.46 | RaydenUni | ok, cool |
| 00:32.49 | NeoTron | like a caster that insists crit > all because those "big hits" make their dps higher |
| 00:32.52 | Trell_ | thanks. |
| 00:33.00 | RaydenUni | so everyone in my guild has crap builds except for the healing priest, the tank, and the healing shaman |
| 00:33.03 | NeoTron | completely disregarding avg benefit over time and the rating conversions and such |
| 00:33.09 | RaydenUni | and mine is soso but i need to change |
| 00:33.12 | NeoTron | what about yourself? :P |
| 00:33.21 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath raydenuni |
| 00:33.23 | Trell_ | but, but, NeoTron, everyone loves the big numbaz! |
| 00:33.24 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (13/2/46). 7471 HP; 7755 Mana; 196 mana regen; 29 mp5; 132 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 393 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (572); 273 shadow dmg (666); 5.06% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1337 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 20:36:49 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:33.56 | Paradox | while you are here, happen to know a way to get the Cartographer foglight functionality in a single addon? just a single addon that does that rather than the whole cartographer package? |
| 00:34.13 | Trell_ | sorry, Paradox, I don't, but whats your issue with having Cart anyway? |
| 00:34.22 | NeoTron | Trell_: <-- SB crit record on normal mob (hydross) > 10000 |
| 00:34.24 | Trell_ | 29mp5? isn't that, bad? |
| 00:34.26 | NeoTron | yep I love big numbers :P |
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| 00:34.50 | Trell_ | NeoTron, puts me to shame, my highest is a 4900 Envenom (not counting Curator attacks of course) |
| 00:34.59 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: I love the +5 str enchant on your gloves! |
| 00:35.02 | Paradox | I get error messages relating to it all the time in dungeons, and I just don't use anything else in cartographer except the foglight, i'd just prefer to slim down on the addons i'm packing |
| 00:35.11 | RaydenUni | NeoTron i used to be an enchanter :P |
| 00:35.20 | Trell_ | Carto isn't bad, mem usage wise. |
| 00:35.28 | Trell_ | I'd try and fix the errors, its a great package. |
| 00:35.38 | NeoTron | and of course, all the empty sockets/non-blue gems |
| 00:35.42 | Xinhuan | you should have seen that 13k curse of doom that went off on a trash mob in hyjal, and it spawned a .. whats that mob ~_~ |
| 00:35.43 | Trell_ | one of those 'I can't live without it' - at least for me. |
| 00:35.53 | NeoTron | and useless trinkets too |
| 00:35.56 | RaydenUni | i just finished my Shadow's Embrace the other day |
| 00:36.00 | RaydenUni | useless? |
| 00:36.11 | NeoTron | crit rating is useless to a SP |
| 00:36.15 | RaydenUni | i know |
| 00:36.18 | Xinhuan | paradox, what kind of errors are you getting? |
| 00:36.22 | NeoTron | and the mushroom might be ok when soloing :P |
| 00:36.25 | NeoTron | but useless in raids |
| 00:36.27 | RaydenUni | oh right |
| 00:36.34 | NeoTron | but you already know where to get good easy trinkets |
| 00:36.34 | RaydenUni | i haven't come across any better trinkets |
| 00:36.35 | Paradox | let me see I think I took some screenshots when I get them |
| 00:36.40 | RaydenUni | right now i'm going to see if i can get the one with 22 hit |
| 00:36.55 | NeoTron | main pieces of gear you should get is the badge offhand/trinket |
| 00:37.03 | NeoTron | the OH is the best SP OH in the game |
| 00:37.09 | RaydenUni | yeah i saw that |
| 00:37.12 | RaydenUni | what is the trinket? |
| 00:37.24 | NeoTron | Icon of the Silver Cresent I think it is |
| 00:37.33 | RaydenUni | from the same vendor? |
| 00:37.39 | NeoTron | yep |
| 00:37.49 | NeoTron | 41 badges |
| 00:37.52 | Xinhuan | the best spriest trinket is eye of mag ;p |
| 00:38.03 | NeoTron | nah |
| 00:38.06 | RaydenUni | yeah that is nice |
| 00:38.09 | NeoTron | the best SP trinket is the darkmoon card |
| 00:38.18 | Xinhuan | until you reach late into bt/hyjal that is |
| 00:38.28 | Wobwork | which darkmoon card? |
| 00:38.34 | NeoTron | crusade |
| 00:38.43 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: we had a doomguard spawn last night |
| 00:38.47 | Paradox | http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6315/wowscrnshot101607195226an3.jpg |
| 00:38.49 | NeoTron | blessings deck |
| 00:38.50 | NivFreak | first time I've ever seen it happen |
| 00:38.56 | Paradox | never really read them properly but it seems to be the same thing |
| 00:39.03 | NeoTron | zomg we had a doomguard spawn when we were killing wpns on Kael'thas |
| 00:39.09 | NivFreak | hah |
| 00:39.14 | Xinhuan | paradox, i suggest downloading and updating the latest version? |
| 00:39.16 | Korben | hy guys and girls anyone know if the HH guy have a timer for his attacks ? |
| 00:39.17 | NivFreak | good thing they are a joke |
| 00:39.18 | Xinhuan | of cartographer |
| 00:39.25 | Xinhuan | from files.wowace.com |
| 00:39.26 | NivFreak | Korben: what is there to time? |
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| 00:39.32 | Paradox | I use WAU to update about 6 times a day |
| 00:39.32 | Korben | no ide |
| 00:39.39 | NeoTron | yeah not so hard to kill |
| 00:39.42 | NivFreak | it's such a basic fight |
| 00:39.51 | Xinhuan | weird, i haven't seen that error before |
| 00:39.52 | NeoTron | I was like 0.1 second of spawning a doomguard on another boss too, in SSC |
| 00:39.52 | Korben | i was wondering if anyone know :P |
| 00:39.53 | Paradox | I get that error *all the time* |
| 00:39.54 | NivFreak | I guess you could time the adds spawning |
| 00:39.56 | NeoTron | such a bummer |
| 00:40.05 | Paradox | I thought it would be fixed soon so I keep putting off reporting it |
| 00:40.13 | Korben | dont want to sit in goldshire for hours :P |
| 00:40.15 | Xinhuan | can't fix an error nobody else has ;p |
| 00:41.01 | Paradox | anyway, yeah, so there's no addon that just enables the whole map + unvisited areas like cart's foglight? |
| 00:41.08 | Xinhuan | ok i believe the issue seems to be that |
| 00:41.13 | Xinhuan | you didn't enable LookNFeel module? |
| 00:41.23 | Paradox | what is that? |
| 00:41.34 | Xinhuan | look in your carto menu |
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| 00:41.42 | Xinhuan | there is a submenu called 'look N feel" |
| 00:41.46 | Xinhuan | is that enabled? |
| 00:41.59 | Paradox | Like I said before.. I only want to use Cart for foglight so I probably disabled everything else when I first started using it |
| 00:42.12 | Xinhuan | enable look and feel and that error will go away |
| 00:42.34 | Xinhuan | that module allows you to change the scale, size, transparency, and move the map |
| 00:42.47 | Xinhuan | and some other things |
| 00:42.51 | Paradox | oh yeah, I disabled that |
| 00:43.14 | Paradox | I don't want to be able to move it, I like it taking up the whole screen when I hit 'M'.. why is it giving me errors for choosing not to use it =( |
| 00:43.30 | Xinhuan | probably because nobody disables that module ;p |
| 00:43.36 | Xinhuan | so nobody reports that error lol |
| 00:43.49 | Paradox | >_> |
| 00:44.01 | Paradox | Skillet is *amazing* |
| 00:44.02 | Xelopheris | You can always have it 100% size and opacity |
| 00:44.07 | Xinhuan | its the one thing that most people use cartographer for - to change the size/look of the map |
| 00:44.25 | Xelopheris | Xin: and guild-member location |
| 00:44.32 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 00:44.34 | Paradox | well yeah I know! which is whyyyyyyyyyyy I am asking if anyone knows of a Foglight addon that does just that ;p |
| 00:44.46 | Xinhuan | i don't think any addon does that paradox |
| 00:44.58 | Xinhuan | apart from carto |
| 00:45.10 | Xinhuan | but i could be wrong |
| 00:45.11 | Paradox | script one for me! :D |
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| 00:45.32 | Kaelten | Ominous__: http://tinyurl.com/2jpx4v |
| 00:46.15 | Xinhuan | wrong channel kaelten? |
| 00:46.17 | Ackis | is there a better way to "escape closes window" than "OnKeyDown" and then checking for escape? |
| 00:46.24 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: nope |
| 00:46.36 | Kaelten | he keeps asking how Ace3 is going, so I thought I'd show him that |
| 00:46.42 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 00:46.52 | Kaelten | example of Ace3 Config |
| 00:47.15 | Shadowed | Seems like a lot of wasted space for the category buttons |
| 00:47.45 | Xinhuan | some category names are longer ;p |
| 00:48.01 | Shadowed | No with the "+" buttons |
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| 00:48.22 | Paradox | 143/177 alchemy recipes I have ;o |
| 00:48.24 | Xinhuan | which parts of Ace3 will AceGui require? |
| 00:48.25 | Paradox | not much left to get |
| 00:48.40 | Xinhuan | or is acegui completely standalone? |
| 00:48.43 | Shadowed | Rest of it looks good, just don't like the category part :p |
| 00:48.59 | Kaelten | Xinhuan I think so. |
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| 00:49.01 | Kaelten | checking |
| 00:49.26 | Xinhuan | because if its completely standalone, it'll be very easy for any addon to include it |
| 00:49.31 | Xinhuan | and use that for config |
| 00:49.39 | Xinhuan | without having to change frameworks |
| 00:49.49 | Kaelten | looks like LibStub |
| 00:50.03 | Xinhuan | that's awesome then :) |
| 00:50.16 | Xinhuan | looking forward to it |
| 00:50.29 | Kaelten | well what you're seeing for the config is generated by AceConfig which rests on top of AceGUI |
| 00:50.53 | Xinhuan | what i like is it actually looks nice |
| 00:51.03 | Paradox | Ackis is definetly a bit buggy :) but I like it |
| 00:51.03 | Xinhuan | and i predict acegui/config will be used by many addons in the future |
| 00:51.19 | Kaelten | local gui = LibStub("AceGUI-3.0") |
| 00:51.20 | Kaelten | local reg = LibStub("AceConfigRegistry-3.0") |
| 00:51.22 | Kaelten | is its requirements |
| 00:51.32 | Kaelten | for the actual config lib |
| 00:51.50 | Xinhuan | configregistry has nothing to do with acedb yes? |
| 00:52.05 | Kaelten | not a bit, its just an abstracted point for registrying config tables |
| 00:52.27 | Xinhuan | sounds like a winner |
| 00:52.48 | RaydenUni | aw crap |
| 00:53.00 | RaydenUni | i changed the resolution and now my monitor isn't getting output when wow is running |
| 00:53.06 | Kaelten | keep in mind that after Ace3 comes out Ace2 will no longer be officially supported, in a large sense at least |
| 00:53.27 | Xinhuan | ace2 isn't really being updated at the moment anyway |
| 00:53.46 | Kaelten | this is true, but I'm not aware of any critical bugs with it either |
| 00:54.00 | Xinhuan | ace2 will probably just fade out over time |
| 00:54.06 | Xinhuan | as people convert to ace3 or rock |
| 00:54.11 | Kaelten | ya |
| 00:54.20 | NivFreak | is anything using ace3? |
| 00:54.31 | Xinhuan | NivFreak, nobody ;p |
| 00:54.38 | NivFreak | so why is it still alive? |
| 00:54.39 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:54.40 | Xinhuan | its not in alpha status yet |
| 00:54.45 | NivFreak | ah |
| 00:54.47 | Xinhuan | but very very close to it |
| 00:54.55 | Kaelten | actually there are a few addons that are using it |
| 00:55.03 | harldephin | "hellooo. i am lindsey lohan." .. rofl |
| 00:55.10 | Kaelten | ag has a version of his unit frames that use it. |
| 00:55.14 | Xinhuan | only in branches though, isn't it? |
| 00:55.17 | Kaelten | aye |
| 00:55.23 | Kaelten | Ammo has a fishing addon |
| 00:55.39 | Kaelten | and I wrote out KC_ChatLink to let people make quick item links in chat |
| 00:56.05 | JoshBorke | it's getting closer to being beta ready, right? |
| 00:56.15 | Xinhuan | another question for you, is there some standard for naming branch folders /branches/addonname/(something)/ ? |
| 00:56.23 | Kaelten | well technically we're about to finalize the and make the alpha release. |
| 00:56.30 | Xinhuan | because i omitted that extra (something) level of folders |
| 00:56.39 | Kaelten | Xinhuan ya the something would be the branch name |
| 00:56.41 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: doesn't REALLY matter |
| 00:56.41 | Xinhuan | and CIA doesn't parse it really right ;p |
| 00:57.10 | JoshBorke | ~fail Xinhuan |
| 00:57.10 | purl | Xinhuan: Fail. |
| 00:57.15 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 00:57.37 | Kaelten | not sure if we'll be moving to trunk at the end of alpha or at the end of beta |
| 00:57.46 | Kaelten | but beta won't be that long hopefully |
| 00:57.47 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 00:58.02 | Kirkburn | Btw, 2.3 patch notes updated :) http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.3.0&diff=935121&oldid=935063 |
| 00:58.05 | NivFreak | I wonder if bartender will work on the PTR now |
| 00:58.12 | Xinhuan | is there a planned ETA date, or "just going along" |
| 00:58.23 | Kaelten | Xinhuan for which? |
| 00:58.26 | Xinhuan | ace3 |
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| 00:58.49 | Xinhuan | * Spellsteal: It is no longer possible via this spell to get two Forbearance debuffs at the same time. |
| 00:58.51 | Xinhuan | what the hell |
| 00:59.01 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:59.03 | JoshBorke | that's awesome |
| 00:59.06 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 00:59.07 | NivFreak | yea, that's a wierd ass note |
| 00:59.08 | JoshBorke | spell steal BoP |
| 00:59.10 | Xinhuan | * The top ranked team of each battlegroup for each format will receive a new unique title for the end of Season 2 called “Merciless Gladiator”. |
| 00:59.15 | Xinhuan | :(((( |
| 00:59.16 | Xinhuan | need |
| 00:59.17 | Kaelten | well we have 4 tickets left in alpha |
| 00:59.31 | aestil | alpha for what? |
| 00:59.31 | Kaelten | 6 tickets in beta |
| 00:59.38 | Kaelten | and 7 not assigned |
| 00:59.42 | Kaelten | I need to go through them again |
| 00:59.45 | Kaelten | aestil: Ace3 |
| 00:59.47 | Kirkburn | There's undocumented changes on http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3.0_%28undocumented_changes%29 |
| 01:00.26 | aestil | to beta test the framework Kaelten? |
| 01:00.42 | Xinhuan | *You can now fish in Ironforge again. |
| 01:00.45 | Xinhuan | What the ? |
| 01:01.00 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r52934 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 01:01.00 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:01.00 | CIA-7 | - Added close with ESC code |
| 01:01.11 | Kaelten | aestil: we're prepping up to close up the alpha phase |
| 01:01.36 | aestil | Kaelten: i'm asking if you're inviting people to test it as users, or as devs? |
| 01:01.52 | Xinhuan | * When you are possessing a target (Priest Mind Control, Eyes of the Beast, using a Steam Tonk, etc), you now get their action bar as your primary action bar rather than having a mini action bar above your normal action bar. |
| 01:02.06 | Xinhuan | i'm guessing that's gonna break bar addons? |
| 01:02.10 | Kaelten | ah, well devs can feel free to start poking with it if they'd like. I think its mostly usable, and there are af ew addons that use it already |
| 01:03.14 | aestil | does recount sync with other users? |
| 01:03.50 | Diao | rofl |
| 01:03.55 | Diao | just 3 shotted a 68 rogue who tried to gank me when i was at 20% |
| 01:04.07 | Xinhuan | diao: nerf warriors |
| 01:04.26 | Diao | :( |
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| 01:05.15 | harldephin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go |
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| 01:16.45 | Trell_ | Added a new potion to alchemy trainers: Mad Alchemist's Potion. This new potion requires Alchemy to consume. |
| 01:16.48 | Trell_ | when was that added? |
| 01:16.57 | Trell_ | and what in the name of all things holy is it |
| 01:17.24 | Timangi | Anyone know how to change Quartz icon size? |
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| 01:18.45 | aestil | Trell_: it'd be nice if alchemists got some sortof self buff. |
| 01:19.41 | Trell_ | i've been thinking for a while that we need some self consumable elixir/pot |
| 01:19.42 | Timangi | Any Quartz users here? |
| 01:19.43 | Trell_ | made with nethers |
| 01:19.45 | Trell_ | or something |
| 01:20.00 | aestil | most other classes get items only they can use. |
| 01:20.01 | NivFreak | Well we have the alchemist stone |
| 01:20.02 | Trell_ | or even sellable, but something high end, y'know? |
| 01:20.02 | NivFreak | or whatever |
| 01:20.05 | aestil | most other crafting proffesions. |
| 01:20.06 | NivFreak | I still haven't made mine |
| 01:20.11 | Trell_ | pos NivFreak |
| 01:20.14 | aestil | it'd be nice if i had something comparable to ring enchants. |
| 01:20.14 | Trell_ | imo |
| 01:20.22 | NivFreak | it just sucks to use a trinket slot for it |
| 01:20.29 | Trell_ | I'd just like something I can make serious money out of with Alchemy |
| 01:20.29 | aestil | alchemist stone sucks. |
| 01:20.34 | Trell_ | hence my thoughts on a nether recipe |
| 01:20.35 | aestil | waste of a trinket slot for me. |
| 01:20.38 | NivFreak | it's decent MP/5 if you're chaining pots |
| 01:20.41 | Trell_ | something damn hot, that everyone wants |
| 01:20.45 | NivFreak | yea |
| 01:20.46 | aestil | i'm a shadow priest. |
| 01:20.52 | NivFreak | aestil: same |
| 01:20.56 | NivFreak | at least my alchemist is |
| 01:20.59 | Trell_ | I'm a rogue... |
| 01:21.06 | NivFreak | I've been considering dropping alch for tailoring |
| 01:21.09 | aestil | not gonna waste a trinket slot on that. |
| 01:21.15 | Trell_ | so yeah, I want something to make money out of :P |
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| 01:23.07 | aestil | so, does recount sync with other users? |
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| 01:24.52 | aestil | ~recount |
| 01:25.32 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 01:25.38 | RaydenUni | so i changed my wow resolution and now nothing displays |
| 01:25.41 | RaydenUni | how do i fix this? |
| 01:26.19 | Xinhuan | change it back? |
| 01:26.22 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r52935 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 01:26.22 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 01:26.22 | CIA-7 | -- Comment out CHEST message |
| 01:26.34 | Xinhuan | exit wow, edit WTF\config.wtf |
| 01:26.43 | Xinhuan | inside you'll find a line that says something like |
| 01:26.52 | Xinhuan | SET gxResolution "1280x1024" |
| 01:26.58 | Xinhuan | change it to something you know that works |
| 01:27.41 | RaydenUni | ooh |
| 01:27.49 | RaydenUni | would this let me turn down graphics settings not available in game? |
| 01:28.19 | RaydenUni | i can't get wow to run at a decent framerate at the native resolution for my monitor |
| 01:28.50 | Xinhuan | yes you can |
| 01:28.59 | Xinhuan | however not all settings would be stored in that file |
| 01:29.10 | Xinhuan | if its not in there, then the game uses default numbers |
| 01:29.21 | RaydenUni | i have all my settings in game as low as it goes |
| 01:29.27 | RaydenUni | what sort of settings would i want to play with? |
| 01:29.36 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 01:29.50 | Xinhuan | most numbers in there are fairly self-explanatory |
| 01:29.55 | Xinhuan | in yards mostly |
| 01:33.21 | JoshBork2 | is Cartographer1 == CartoAce? |
| 01:33.27 | RaydenUni | i can't find anything on this on the web unfortunately |
| 01:33.40 | aestil | the recount wiki isn't clear. does recount sync with other users? |
| 01:33.47 | RaydenUni | can you set comments in config.wtf? |
| 01:33.48 | JoshBork2 | aestil: yes |
| 01:34.01 | aestil | does it sync with sws? it shows sws as opt dep? |
| 01:34.25 | JoshBork2 | aestil: no |
| 01:34.50 | aestil | ok, what is !!!cwdgacelibs |
| 01:35.01 | aestil | i'm pretty sure i'm not running that, no wiki entry for it. |
| 01:35.41 | RaydenUni | what does DistCull do? |
| 01:36.12 | Arrowmaster | woot vashj down |
| 01:36.47 | aestil | grats Arrowmaster. |
| 01:36.57 | aestil | now begins KT :) |
| 01:37.13 | aestil | we are on week 2 of KT after clearing SSC for a month. |
| 01:39.21 | aestil | question about swsstasfu. is 'group dps' also 'raid dps' if your group is a raid? or does it just show me my own groups dps? |
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| 01:40.26 | ulic | just run it for a while and see if the number is crazy high like 25 peeps, or lower like 5 :) |
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| 01:41.15 | Nefarion | Hola |
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| 01:43.27 | aestil | it'd be great if people would pick up mods like recount for development when their author's disapear for a long time. |
| 01:43.57 | Nefarion | Users are free to try. =P |
| 01:44.28 | JoshBork2 | ~seen cryect |
| 01:44.30 | purl | cryect <n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 52d 1h 12m 32s ago, saying: 'charon: it can't tell the difference between mobs of the same name (you don't get any unit id for them or anything) so he couldn't do that'. |
| 01:44.39 | JoshBork2 | wow, almost 2 months? |
| 01:44.45 | JoshBork2 | craziness |
| 01:47.12 | RaydenUni | ok new problem |
| 01:47.26 | RaydenUni | my real time dps graph for recount has been moved off the edge of the screen |
| 01:47.31 | RaydenUni | so i can't click on the header |
| 01:47.34 | RaydenUni | how do i move it now? |
| 01:47.36 | RaydenUni | or get rid of it? |
| 01:47.50 | JoshBork2 | reload ui |
| 01:47.57 | RaydenUni | restarted wow didn't help |
| 01:48.17 | Nefarion | Delete WTF files for it? |
| 01:48.27 | Xinhuan | ~seen cyrect |
| 01:48.28 | purl | i haven't seen 'cyrect', Xinhuan |
| 01:48.34 | RaydenUni | that seems rather drastic |
| 01:49.01 | Nefarion | WoW \ WTF \ Account \ * \ SavedVariables \ Recount.lua and WoW \ WTF \ Account \ * \ *char \ SavedVariables \ Recount.lua |
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| 01:49.25 | Nefarion | Yeah but it will help. |
| 01:49.34 | Paradox | anyone know what the battleground flag-capture frame is called? |
| 01:49.41 | Nefarion | Ohhh ummm,. |
| 01:49.43 | Paradox | not showing up on this addon when I hover over it |
| 01:49.56 | Nefarion | It's not mouse-enabled, that's why |
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| 01:51.19 | Nefarion | Shit I can't find it.. |
| 01:51.56 | Nefarion | Try "WorldStateScoreFrame" but I'm not sure. |
| 01:52.08 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.53 | Nefarion | I'm bored. Anyone know of any good sites or random shit to do? |
| 01:53.56 | RaydenUni | Portal for Flash? |
| 01:54.07 | Nefarion | what? |
| 01:54.12 | RaydenUni | http://portal.wecreatestuff.com/ |
| 01:54.38 | KarlThePagan | !ping |
| 01:55.26 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r52936 10CatPoints/ (CatPoints.lua Tank.lua modules.xml): |
| 01:55.26 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 01:55.26 | CIA-7 | - Added a Tank calculation |
| 01:55.26 | CIA-7 | - Turn off stats when not in the proper form |
| 01:56.37 | Trell_ | Nefarion: http://www.nitrome.com |
| 01:58.22 | Kirkburn | More patch note changes! http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.3.0&diff=935186&oldid=935125 |
| 01:59.35 | Trell_ | WOAH |
| 01:59.37 | Trell_ | check cheat death out |
| 01:59.46 | Trell_ | <3 |
| 01:59.53 | Antiarc | Link? |
| 02:00.01 | Trell_ | Cheat Death (Subtlety) chance to trigger increased to 33/66/100% and now also causes the rogue to take 90% less damage for 3 seconds when the effect triggers. This effect cannot occur more than once per minute. |
| 02:00.08 | Antiarc | Interesting |
| 02:00.12 | Antiarc | Though sorta worthless |
| 02:02.09 | Nefarion | Aimed Shot and MS stack, right? |
| 02:02.13 | Nefarion | In 2.3 I mean.. |
| 02:03.16 | Antiarc | Likely not |
| 02:03.19 | Antiarc | Since Wound and MS don't |
| 02:03.35 | Tuller | you know, I never thought about using a wikipedia patch note diff before :) |
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| 02:07.22 | Nefarion | Yeah it'll really suck if DL's healing effect can be fully shut down.... And then there's pure healer classes, but screw them. lol |
| 02:07.48 | Diao | hmm finally |
| 02:07.54 | Diao | dimishing returns on silence effects |
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| 02:08.25 | Diao | no more mage/lock/priest combos keeping a healer shut down for the entire fight |
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| 02:12.47 | Trell_ | RaydenUni - i'm stuck on level 9 |
| 02:12.54 | Trell_ | :'( |
| 02:13.12 | Nefarion | the infinite loop? |
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| 02:13.27 | AdamTher | Hello |
| 02:13.56 | Trell_ | yeah |
| 02:14.04 | chexsum | i got locked down by a belf mage and belf pally for about 30s last week |
| 02:14.08 | AdamTher | I had a mod that showed me WoWHead data on quests, anyone know what its called? |
| 02:14.14 | Trell_ | LightHeaded |
| 02:14.18 | chexsum | first time a ret pally has ever beaten my in arena |
| 02:14.19 | AdamTher | Thanks alot. |
| 02:14.24 | Trell_ | no problem |
| 02:14.35 | Trell_ | Nefarion; did you get past it? |
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| 02:14.42 | Nefarion | Nah it's tricky, but I'm trying |
| 02:14.46 | Trell_ | 'cos it's driving me nuts |
| 02:15.43 | Timangi | Anyone know how to change titan panel critline addons new records postion and fonts? |
| 02:16.30 | chexsum | lightheaded ? |
| 02:16.40 | chexsum | @adam |
| 02:16.45 | Nefarion | It adds wowhead-mined quest data+comments to the questlog. |
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| 02:17.05 | Trell_ | done it, Nefarion |
| 02:17.34 | Nefarion | i'm not getting enough speed even with a loop |
| 02:17.37 | Nefarion | wtf |
| 02:17.56 | Trell_ | youve gotta drop a hole as you come out of the top one, if that makes sense |
| 02:18.02 | AdamTher | @Chexsum: Trell_ Got it for me, but thanks. |
| 02:18.09 | Trell_ | so that both holes are on the bottom floor; as you come out of the top one |
| 02:18.34 | AdamTher | Later guys, and ty. |
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| 02:22.21 | CIA-7 | 03sayclub * r52937 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 02:22.21 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 02:22.21 | CIA-7 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 02:30.06 | shieldb | does quartz have a way to stop displaying a target cast bar if it's a specific spell? |
| 02:30.33 | shieldb | i.e. if I want to hide Deaden from our mages getting trigger happy ;) |
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| 02:34.28 | Arrowmaster | rofl got first vashj kill then we went and 1shoted doomwalker and kazzak, and while were talking about doing mag since we havent in months people go to cap the towers in hellfire |
| 02:34.39 | Arrowmaster | theyre like flasked raid vs lvl 62s |
| 02:34.41 | Diao | how many people would you need |
| 02:34.44 | Diao | to farm ssc trash |
| 02:34.46 | Diao | in a gruul guild :O |
| 02:35.26 | Arrowmaster | probably 25 |
| 02:38.07 | Diao | :( |
| 02:39.06 | ZealotOnAStick | so, we killed Illidan last night. |
| 02:39.15 | durcyn | ssc and tk trash is horrible, don't bother |
| 02:39.16 | Trell_ | twenty to four in the morning, and i'm looking for a BRD group. I'll be lucky I guess. |
| 02:39.19 | ZealotOnAStick | so of course, tonight, total noobery on the first archimonde attempt |
| 02:39.20 | Trell_ | grats Zealot |
| 02:39.22 | durcyn | cheers, zealot |
| 02:39.47 | durcyn | eh, archimonde wipes are mandatory ;) |
| 02:40.59 | Diao | well we want to farm for the patterns and vortexes :P |
| 02:41.15 | durcyn | you could probably suffer through it with 15-20 |
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| 02:43.46 | Ackis | did blizz nerf chat spam type mods for guild chat/custom channels? |
| 02:44.39 | Ackis | [4. notorhealer] The number of messages that can be sent to this channel is limited, please wait to send another message. |
| 02:44.46 | Ackis | and we can't spam stuff to guild chat either |
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| 02:45.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah a while back |
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| 02:47.23 | Ackis | we're just experiencing this issue for the first time tonight... frustrating or healing macros/nrt raid spam |
| 02:48.09 | Wobwork | http://portal.wecreatestuff.com/ |
| 02:52.14 | ckknight | this is all your fault, Wobin |
| 02:52.18 | ckknight | Wobwork* |
| 02:52.34 | Nefarion | Ack, you can try to bypass it by perhaps delaying each message to the next OnUpdate function (perhaps throttled) instead of sending all at once. |
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| 02:53.20 | balstor | there is a library to throttle chat messages |
| 02:53.48 | Nefarion | Hmm.. Seems so easy to implement without a lib. |
| 02:53.52 | Nefarion | =/ |
| 02:53.56 | balstor | ChatThrottleLib |
| 02:54.27 | balstor | to be honest use the library it has been in throttles cause there are varying chat limits for being in and out of combat etc etc |
| 02:55.04 | balstor | all you have to do is call it for sending messages and a few lines of initialization ( i converted ctraid once for fun took me 15 minutes) |
| 02:58.02 | Ackis | they aren't my mods that are causing the problems... it's heal organizer which uses chatthrottlelib, and nrt... and the error just showed up tonight, it was working last night |
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| 02:59.53 | aestil | so, i want to use heroism once my uber caster group gets the staff and is attacking a dagger debuffed target. |
| 03:00.04 | aestil | but they are making me use it on the bow, which is the first thing we kill. |
| 03:00.42 | Xinhuan | using it on the bow is the correct choice |
| 03:00.59 | Xinhuan | because the earlier it dies, the earlier your casters can aoe |
| 03:01.12 | Xinhuan | which means everything in p2 dies that few seconds faster |
| 03:02.30 | Xinhuan | you'll have more time to loot the weapons, and stuff as well |
| 03:02.32 | Xinhuan | and position |
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| 03:03.55 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r52938 10CatPoints/ (Tank.lua test.lua): |
| 03:03.55 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 03:03.55 | CIA-7 | - Fixed a typo in the crit reduction calculation. |
| 03:05.43 | CIA-7 | 03treibh * r52939 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua localization_enUS.lua): |
| 03:05.43 | CIA-7 | BigBrother: |
| 03:05.43 | CIA-7 | - allow the user to select where they want the output from misdirect/poly/shackle to be sent |
| 03:06.58 | CIA-7 | 03chuanhsing * r52940 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Warchief.lua: LittleWigs: zhTW update (thanks tantails) |
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| 03:13.01 | Arrowmaster | gah |
| 03:13.09 | Arrowmaster | instance servers are all down on my server |
| 03:13.49 | JoshBork2 | ooo, taintlog looks nice |
| 03:18.32 | theoddone33 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLYrFR9RT_U I bet this is old |
| 03:18.34 | theoddone33 | but still awesome |
| 03:18.42 | Fisker- | no u :( |
| 03:19.38 | starlon | overpower! |
| 03:19.44 | RaydenUni | how much +hit does a spriest need? |
| 03:19.46 | RaydenUni | i got 77 now |
| 03:19.57 | Arrowmaster | enough for 6% |
| 03:19.58 | JoshBork2 | do you have 3/3 imp hit? |
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| 03:20.32 | RaydenUni | yes |
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| 03:22.36 | RaydenUni | so 6.1% |
| 03:22.39 | RaydenUni | so i have enough hit |
| 03:22.40 | RaydenUni | sweet |
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| 03:23.39 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 03:23.46 | theoddone33 | that video is cracking me up |
| 03:23.55 | theoddone33 | but it's stupid until about 5 minutes when he starts sharing his strategies |
| 03:25.17 | Fin | ~cookie |
| 03:25.54 | RaydenUni | i need a better belt |
| 03:26.04 | balstor | Creature AI has been changed to no longer prioritize attacking unfeared targets over feared targets. |
| 03:26.19 | balstor | so i can tank while feared again??? |
| 03:26.33 | Wobwork | anyone have one of those pictures that compares all the race heights? |
| 03:26.41 | Codayus | balstor: Sounds that way. |
| 03:27.12 | Codayus | Big buff to druids, minor alleviation of the fear ward nerf for guilds who don't stack holy priests... |
| 03:27.13 | balstor | so no more double tanking onyxia, hmmm |
| 03:27.19 | Codayus | (Which is to say, all of them.( |
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| 03:28.31 | Hey-WTF | quick question ... how does Grid do range checking? seems to me to be quite often that I can heal someone that's out of range on grid |
| 03:28.48 | Fin | ~cookie |
| 03:30.27 | theoddone33 | sweet |
| 03:30.32 | theoddone33 | getting repeatedly disconnected on login |
| 03:32.42 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 03:32.45 | RaydenUni | Potent Potables |
| 03:33.33 | Wobwork | Welcome to MidRealm? =) |
| 03:36.25 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 03:36.30 | theoddone33 | disabled all my mods, now I can log in |
| 03:36.33 | theoddone33 | this is gonna be fun |
| 03:36.43 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r52941 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (4 files): WoWEquip: - Splitting up the data and localization - Part 7. |
| 03:37.27 | Hey-WTF | nm, just tested it, Grid shows out of range at 40 yards, guess I just need to bump the update rate up a bit |
| 03:37.44 | Xinhuan | thisis pretty fun, i have localization files each 1000 lines long, and a data file about 1700 lines long zzz |
| 03:38.03 | Xinhuan | and the main addon itself about 3500 lines |
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| 03:38.51 | Xinhuan | ok i lied about the fun part |
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| 03:41.33 | chexsum | woot i might be a posty soon :P |
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| 03:48.12 | RaydenUni | NeoTron |
| 03:48.12 | theoddone33 | this sucks |
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| 03:49.41 | theoddone33 | I've narrowed down the addon that's disconnecting me to one or more of henge, onebag, and itemdb |
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| 03:50.58 | RaydenUni | i'd vote for itemdb |
| 03:51.09 | RaydenUni | i know looking at items you haven't seen can sometimes cause you to disconnect |
| 03:51.09 | theoddone33 | yeah it's looking that way |
| 03:51.49 | theoddone33 | odd that it would just start today |
| 03:51.51 | theoddone33 | without updating it |
| 03:51.59 | theoddone33 | maybe someone fed it a weird item somehow |
| 03:52.26 | balstor | maybe it saw something in a battleground |
| 03:52.27 | theoddone33 | and elkano isn't here |
| 03:52.55 | theoddone33 | yeah I dunno why it'd look it up or try to link it when I log in |
| 03:53.00 | theoddone33 | just odd |
| 03:53.06 | theoddone33 | but at least I can play now :P |
| 03:53.10 | Ackis | whee 16% wipe on idiot check archimonde |
| 03:53.23 | Ackis | 6% away from win |
| 03:53.24 | durcyn | querying uncached item IDs no longer disconnects. |
| 03:53.26 | balstor | always wondered about, I thought the rules were you couldn't link things that wern't on your server yet you can link things from battle grounds |
| 03:53.54 | theoddone33 | it's something to do with whether or not the server has seen it since the last weekly reset |
| 03:53.58 | theoddone33 | not necessarily whether it's dropped |
| 03:54.05 | Xinhuan | if you now try to link an invalid item, the server will just display the 'text' |
| 03:54.08 | theoddone33 | which is why we can't link andionisus right now |
| 03:54.10 | Xinhuan | rather than the invalid link |
| 03:54.20 | Xinhuan | you can attempt to link andonisus |
| 03:54.21 | theoddone33 | hm, was that changed last patch? |
| 03:54.28 | theoddone33 | because that's a great change |
| 03:54.31 | Xinhuan | but you'll just end up linking the pure text |
| 03:54.34 | Xinhuan | and not the item |
| 03:55.12 | balstor | well i'm out, see everyone tomrrow |
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| 04:05.08 | Fin | ~cookie |
| 04:05.35 | Fin | ~cookie |
| 04:06.22 | Fin | ~factinfo ace |
| 04:06.22 | purl | ace -- last modified at Sun Aug 6 01:39:39 2006 by ckknight!i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com; it has been requested 35 times, last by Xinhuan at Mon Sep 3 19:56:37 2007. |
| 04:06.32 | Fin | ~factinfo wowace |
| 04:06.32 | purl | wowace -- last modified at Sun Oct 29 01:46:55 2006 by ckknight!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com; it has been requested 16 times, last by Pheredhel at Mon Jul 30 09:55:57 2007. |
| 04:06.38 | Fin | ~factinfo literal |
| 04:06.38 | purl | literal -- last modified at Wed Sep 20 15:50:51 2006 by JoshBorke!n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu; it has been requested 20 times, last by Thunder_Child at Sun Oct 7 16:48:58 2007. |
| 04:07.26 | Xinhuan | ~factinfo factinfo |
| 04:07.26 | purl | there's no such factoid as factinfo, Xinhuan |
| 04:07.34 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 04:07.47 | Xinhuan | fail |
| 04:09.03 | Fin | ~factstats requested |
| 04:09.55 | Fin | ~factstats total |
| 04:10.00 | Fin | hmm |
| 04:10.21 | Fin | oh, it does work |
| 04:10.47 | Fin | ~factstats profanity |
| 04:11.06 | Fin | hmm, well, fuck you too purl |
| 04:11.34 | Xinhuan | so why does it give a negative non-requested number? |
| 04:13.42 | Zhinjio | buckethead!! thats awesome. |
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| 04:22.57 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r52942 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 04:22.57 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 04:22.57 | CIA-7 | - Added new alchemy and enchanting recipe (commented out for now) |
| 04:22.57 | CIA-7 | - Need to add translations to babble tradeskill |
| 04:29.18 | Paradox | ackis are you here? |
| 04:30.12 | art3mis | ~cajunkkk |
| 04:30.13 | purl | i heard cajunkkk is a stupid fucking idiot |
| 04:30.29 | art3mis | ~book |
| 04:30.29 | purl | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 04:31.02 | Paradox | ~ackis |
| 04:31.05 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r651 10/trunk/TourGuide/TourGuide.lua: TourGuide - Fix for issue #122, TourGuide:CompleteQuest(...) will gracefully fail if no guide is loaded (doesn't prevent quest turnin with an error) |
| 04:31.17 | Paradox | *Woah* |
| 04:31.21 | Paradox | that is crazy. |
| 04:31.23 | ZealotOnAStick | !c us blackhand tenebra |
| 04:31.26 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 10360 HP; 8875 Mana; 114 mana regen; 187 spell crit; 223 spell hit; 1106 +spell dmg; 134 frost dmg (1240); 348 shadow dmg (1454); 80 fire dmg (1186); 4.68% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1204 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/299cp5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2llt2j ][ Updated: Tue Oct 23 00:34:53 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:31.33 | Paradox | I just killed a dwarf rogue ingame called Tekkub twice |
| 04:31.43 | Tekkub | WHAT |
| 04:31.49 | Tekkub | fucking asshole |
| 04:31.53 | Paradox | was it you? |
| 04:32.02 | Tekkub | if he's gonna be the first to steal my name, not a goddamn rogue |
| 04:32.03 | CIA-7 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r52943 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:32.03 | CIA-7 | UnitActionBars: |
| 04:32.03 | CIA-7 | - Mostly changes to support configuration of actions through optional config gui. |
| 04:32.20 | Tekkub | what server? |
| 04:32.20 | Paradox | well don't worry |
| 04:32.23 | Paradox | I killed him nicely |
| 04:32.26 | Paradox | Magtheridon EU |
| 04:32.52 | Paradox | !c EU magtheridon tekkub |
| 04:32.53 | ThraeBot | Paradox: tekkub is not the character you are looking for! |
| 04:33.02 | Paradox | I think you'll find it is >_< |
| 04:33.36 | Paradox | maybe it was very similar |
| 04:33.44 | Paradox | that or i'm going insane. |
| 04:33.56 | ZealotOnAStick | or you're going insane. |
| 04:34.00 | Tekkub | http://eu.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=tekkub&searchType=all |
| 04:36.07 | Tekkub | not findin him.. |
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| 04:38.25 | Tekkub | fucking slow ass armory with it's usless search |
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| 04:38.40 | Tekkub | lemme search by server/class/race you asstards |
| 04:42.03 | CIA-7 | 03jwensley2 * r52944 10MageAnnounce/ (Locale-enUS.lua MageAnnounce.lua MageAnnounce.toc): |
| 04:42.03 | CIA-7 | MageAnnounce: |
| 04:42.03 | CIA-7 | - No longer announces when you are resheeping |
| 04:42.04 | CIA-7 | - Added option to specify if you use a focus macro for polymorph |
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| 04:54.19 | Xelopheris | http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/dotman/lolmath6.gif <<-- y'know, math makes me feel the same way sometimes |
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| 05:07.24 | CIA-7 | 03jwensley2 * r52945 10MageAnnounce/MageAnnounce.lua: |
| 05:07.24 | CIA-7 | MageAnnounce: |
| 05:07.24 | CIA-7 | - removed some testing code |
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| 05:31.45 | fitz__ | anyone know offhand whether UnitInRaid("player") always returns true? |
| 05:32.10 | Wobwork | well |
| 05:32.11 | Fin | why would it, if you weren't in a raid? |
| 05:32.13 | Wobwork | not if you're not in a raid |
| 05:32.13 | Xelopheris | shouldn't if you're not in a raid group |
| 05:32.25 | fitz__ | UnitInParty("player") always returns true, afaik |
| 05:32.36 | fitz__ | just wanted to make sure ...Raid() returned a sane value |
| 05:33.50 | Xelopheris | GetNumPartyMembers() > 0 for checking if you're in an actual party |
| 05:35.14 | fitz__ | if ( GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 ) then |
| 05:35.20 | fitz__ | that's what blizzard does to turn on their raid UI |
| 05:35.23 | fitz__ | so I'll probably use that, heh |
| 05:36.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Anyone happen to know/remember what causes stray frames/icons to show up in pitbull Auras? Like the border to a frame appearing large and malformed in one place and the icon for it appearing entirely somewhere else. Neitehr anywhere near a pitbull frame. |
| 05:41.30 | RaydenUni | i wish i could connect to my guild chat with an irc client |
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| 05:46.42 | sbingner | can't you make an addon to do that? |
| 05:47.24 | `Zypher | don't think you could send info into the game from irc |
| 05:47.45 | Wobwork | nope |
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| 05:58.41 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29RE0blCV84 is about the best thing ever |
| 06:00.21 | CIA-7 | 03benumbed * r52946 10DaHud/ (DaHud.lua Modules/Portrait.lua): |
| 06:00.21 | CIA-7 | DaHud: |
| 06:00.21 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:09.53 | Orionshock | morning all |
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| 06:12.37 | CIA-7 | 03samuelcup * r52947 10beql/locales/localization-cn.lua: beql: - zhCN updated |
| 06:18.08 | Cartas | How's the lastseen command work again? |
| 06:18.19 | Roartindon | type ~seen name |
| 06:18.24 | Cartas | ~seen Rabbit |
| 06:18.26 | purl | rabbit <n=chatzill@122.167.74.195> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 48d 13h 47m 37s ago, saying: 'yes, got it, thanks'. |
| 06:18.33 | Roartindon | that's not rabbit |
| 06:18.34 | Roartindon | ~seen Vhaar |
| 06:18.35 | purl | Roartindon: i haven't seen 'vhaar' |
| 06:18.35 | Cartas | 48 days? :o |
| 06:18.38 | Roartindon | ~seen vhaarr |
| 06:18.39 | purl | vhaarr is currently on #norganna #wowace. Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 9h 26m 15s, last said: 'but I get a stack overflow when mousing over items after I fix that locally'. |
| 06:18.45 | Roartindon | he's online :) |
| 06:18.47 | Cartas | Ah, thanks! :D |
| 06:18.58 | Cartas | He should say he's Vhaarr in the about section of addons :P |
| 06:20.05 | Wobwork | rarr |
| 06:20.12 | Wobwork | 40 minutes go by faster |
| 06:20.16 | Wobwork | I want to go home |
| 06:20.30 | Cartas | I know what would help it go faster, old chap. |
| 06:21.43 | art3mis | well that would cover 3minutes whats he gonna do for the last 37? |
| 06:21.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Cartas: most places frown on sex at the workplace, though |
| 06:21.58 | Cartas | Haha, you're dirty boy. |
| 06:22.05 | Cartas | +a! |
| 06:22.08 | Cartas | I wasn't meaning that, guys... |
| 06:22.11 | Cartas | Come on... :| |
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| 06:25.11 | vhaarr | Roartindon: suo |
| 06:25.13 | vhaarr | sup* |
| 06:25.25 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Nothing :) Cartas was looking for you :) |
| 06:25.29 | vhaarr | ah |
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| 06:26.17 | `Zypher | daddy cool |
| 06:27.01 | `Zypher | I thought id put this out there, 7.10 Gutsy = win |
| 06:27.17 | Cartas | Why's that? |
| 06:28.03 | `Zypher | meh, i saw a decent performance upgrade |
| 06:28.22 | `Zypher | but than again i also updated to the new beta drivers from nvidia |
| 06:28.25 | `Zypher | =/ |
| 06:28.29 | CIA-7 | 03samuelcup * r52948 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.toc localization_zhCN.lua): |
| 06:28.29 | CIA-7 | BigBrother: |
| 06:28.29 | CIA-7 | - zhCN localization added |
| 06:28.37 | `Zypher | 100.19.23 i think |
| 06:28.38 | `Zypher | not sure |
| 06:28.58 | `Zypher | 100.14.23 =D |
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| 06:35.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | what are good spells to use for the GCD bar in quartz for a mage? |
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| 06:41.51 | art3mis | instants |
| 06:42.02 | art3mis | sicne they have no cast only cooldown |
| 06:43.28 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ... isn't that kind of backwards? |
| 06:44.05 | art3mis | umm it's timing the GCD |
| 06:44.09 | xyu | Where's a good place to mine adamantite? |
| 06:44.15 | Zhinjio | I wish there was a version of guildads that actually worked right. |
| 06:44.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | right, so if the spell has a cooldown, how is it supposed to time the GCD? :P |
| 06:44.26 | art3mis | if you add casting time to that it's gonna make for longer gcd |
| 06:45.07 | art3mis | im pretty sure it says "use an instant" somewhere |
| 06:45.39 | Nargiddley | cast time doesnt effect cooldown |
| 06:45.44 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Actually, it says "it is recommended to use a spell that cannot have a cooldown other than the global cooldown" |
| 06:45.51 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you're not a caster, are you art3mis. :D |
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| 06:46.34 | art3mis | im a priest |
| 06:46.43 | art3mis | but to be honest ive never set my gdc in quartz ;P |
| 06:47.10 | art3mis | oh i meant instnts like dots |
| 06:47.15 | art3mis | that dont ahve a cooldown |
| 06:47.30 | art3mis | up until sw:d we priests dint have any instants with cooldowns ;P |
| 06:47.37 | NightHawkTheSan1 | There's a very distinct difference between "instant cast time" and "has a cooldown" :P |
| 06:47.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | mages have a few of those. :P |
| 06:48.08 | Nargiddley | something that can't be locked out would be best |
| 06:48.11 | art3mis | and the cooldown in that sentence i meant GCD |
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| 06:48.28 | Nargiddley | which doesnt change even with extra cooldowns |
| 06:48.31 | art3mis | not my problem you cant read "its 3am retarded typing time" typing |
| 06:48.43 | art3mis | ;) |
| 06:48.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | it's only 11:48 pm, so no, i can't yet. :P |
| 06:48.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | gimme a couple hours. ;) |
| 06:48.52 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:49.15 | Orionshock | anyone know the author of Sorren's Timers? |
| 06:49.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I'm going to go on a limb and say "Sorren" |
| 06:49.58 | Orionshock | ya, but "Does anyone know Sorren" sounds vague |
| 06:50.53 | Orionshock | he's got his addon on the svn all phooked |
| 06:51.15 | Orionshock | i was going to update it to atleast load the libs he's including... |
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| 06:52.47 | CIA-7 | 03orionshock * r52949 10SorrenTimers/ (. libs/): |
| 06:52.47 | CIA-7 | SorrenTimers: |
| 06:52.47 | CIA-7 | -move svn:externals property to a libs folder |
| 06:52.47 | CIA-7 | -remove AceHook as it's not called ANY where in this addon. |
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| 06:56.32 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r52950 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib: Support MSBT 5.0. |
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| 06:59.16 | art3mis | smoeone go make me a theme swapper |
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| 07:01.11 | kebinusan | mmm new msbt |
| 07:02.38 | Wobwork | orly? |
| 07:02.56 | vhaarr | that's what my sinklib commit says |
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| 07:04.21 | vhaarr | use the commits, Wobwork, that's what they're there for |
| 07:05.02 | Wobwork | Sorry vhaarr. I scan straight over them nowadays =P |
| 07:05.10 | Wobwork | Until they hit my rss feed |
| 07:05.26 | vhaarr | bad pun on the Thumb Wars parody movie where Obi-Wan says to Luke, "Use the instruments panel, Luke, that's what it's there for." |
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| 07:05.36 | vhaarr | when he tries to navigate his X-Wing with "the force" |
| 07:05.54 | Wobwork | hm, anyone know what tonight's downtime will be? |
| 07:06.00 | Wobwork | reboot or maint? |
| 07:06.05 | art3mis | yes |
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| 07:06.27 | Wobwork | yes long downtime? |
| 07:06.31 | MoonWolf | yes reboot ? |
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| 07:06.37 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r52951 10AutoBar/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-esES.lua Locale-frFR.lua): |
| 07:06.37 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 07:06.37 | CIA-7 | -- true -> "Buttons" for locales. |
| 07:07.11 | MoonWolf | noooes |
| 07:07.17 | MoonWolf | i want my "fake" buttons back! |
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| 07:08.12 | Arcaia | someone say something >.> |
| 07:08.18 | Zhinjio | something |
| 07:08.21 | Arcaia | bah |
| 07:08.27 | kebinusan | ~something |
| 07:08.27 | purl | >lart jbot |
| 07:08.38 | kebinusan | ~something |
| 07:08.38 | purl | >lart jbot |
| 07:08.46 | kebinusan | ~kick purl |
| 07:08.47 | purl | ACTION kicks purl |
| 07:08.56 | Arcaia | my school's internet sucks |
| 07:08.59 | Arcaia | it just disconnected me |
| 07:09.02 | Arcaia | from everything |
| 07:09.04 | Arcaia | except irc... |
| 07:09.05 | Arcaia | wtf. |
| 07:09.24 | art3mis | ooo neat |
| 07:10.34 | MoonWolf | irc has high resilience rating on its gear. |
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| 07:15.33 | CIA-7 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52952 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:15.33 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceGUI: Reset tabs properly when released |
| 07:15.33 | CIA-7 | AceConfigDialog: Traverse the tree to find a confirm function |
| 07:15.33 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:15.41 | Dreadmaster | goodday all :) |
| 07:15.52 | MoonWolf | moregn |
| 07:15.55 | MoonWolf | morgen* |
| 07:16.09 | Wobwork | so noone knows? =P |
| 07:16.14 | MoonWolf | guess not |
| 07:16.26 | Dreadmaster | i take it moonwolf is dutch |
| 07:16.27 | Dreadmaster | :) |
| 07:16.28 | Wobwork | alas |
| 07:16.33 | Orionshock | >.> any way to get AceLib to not load standalones? |
| 07:16.38 | MoonWolf | moonwolf has been dutch for a very long time. |
| 07:16.42 | Dreadmaster | :) |
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| 07:16.44 | the-golem | hi Arcaia |
| 07:16.47 | MoonWolf | there is a suprising number of dutch people hiding in here. |
| 07:16.59 | Cartas | If there is nothing outside the universe, this nothing would be inifintelty big, yes? :o Thus the universe is infinitely small...? |
| 07:17.01 | Dreadmaster | Aye and maybe a new one incomming if i can keep my interest |
| 07:17.10 | Wobwork | Cartas: yes. |
| 07:17.27 | Wobwork | Well no |
| 07:17.34 | Cartas | CONTRADICTION! |
| 07:17.34 | the-golem | Arcaia: dont suppose you remember those RGB gold values you posted a few days ago, do u? ^ |
| 07:17.38 | the-golem | ^% |
| 07:17.50 | Wobwork | The universe is finite, but it's been theorised to be in the shape of a hypersphere |
| 07:17.54 | elkano | Orionshock: check the AceLibrary.lua, there is a boolean switch to disable that |
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| 07:17.57 | Wobwork | so it takes up all the room |
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| 07:18.22 | Cartas | The universe has been theroised to be every shape over the centuries, methinks! :P |
| 07:18.35 | Wobwork | I like the hypersphere explaination |
| 07:18.37 | MoonWolf | okay lets be very honest, we have not clue how large the universe really is or what shape it is. |
| 07:18.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 07:18.57 | Wobwork | anyway |
| 07:18.58 | Wobwork | hometime |
| 07:18.59 | Cartas | If the universe is infinite... what shape would it be? A cube? |
| 07:19.07 | Wobwork | hypersphere |
| 07:19.10 | Cartas | The width, height and depth would all be the same. |
| 07:19.13 | Cartas | Infinite. |
| 07:19.24 | Wobwork | four dimensional sphere =) |
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| 07:19.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | current research suggests it's more disc-shapped, actually |
| 07:19.50 | Wobwork | and riding on the back of a giant turtle? |
| 07:19.53 | NightHawkTheSan1 | assuming you define the universe only as observable matter. |
| 07:19.56 | MoonWolf | hyperdisc then |
| 07:19.56 | Wobwork | supported by four elephants? |
| 07:20.09 | Wobwork | win! |
| 07:20.16 | the-golem | http://www.anonib.com/youtubelovers/images/3/I_DIVIDED_BY_ZERO_anonib.jpg |
| 07:20.20 | Cartas | No way. |
| 07:20.26 | MoonWolf | if you spin a hypershere really hard, would it flatten out ? |
| 07:20.30 | Cartas | The turtles are standing on the universe... |
| 07:20.30 | Wobwork | wai |
| 07:20.32 | Cartas | It goes on forever. |
| 07:20.39 | Cartas | The universe stands on 4 turtles who stand on the universe. |
| 07:20.44 | Cartas | :O |
| 07:20.45 | Wobwork | MoonWolf: how do you spin a four dimensional object? |
| 07:20.50 | Cartas | Clockwise. |
| 07:21.02 | elkano | ~recursion |
| 07:21.03 | purl | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. |
| 07:21.13 | MoonWolf | Wobwork, if you can have 4 dimensional objects, you can spin them. |
| 07:21.16 | ckknight | Wobwork, you'd spin it like you'd spin any multi-dimensional object |
| 07:21.28 | elkano | spin 2 is fun ;) |
| 07:22.16 | ckknight | we can spin 2d objects by rotating on the orthogonal to the page, 3d objects can spin arbitrarily based on a vector we choose, 4d objects could also spin arbitirarily on a vector we choose, it's just 4d instead of 3d. |
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| 07:22.53 | Wobwork | yes, but would spinning a four dimensional object four dimensionally apply three dimensional physics to it? |
| 07:22.56 | MoonWolf | but would it flatten out ?" |
| 07:23.03 | Wobwork | exactly |
| 07:23.42 | MoonWolf | someone find us a few mathematicians and some people who deal with very vague physics |
| 07:23.42 | Cartas | Nope. |
| 07:23.59 | Cartas | Why would it flatten? |
| 07:23.59 | Wobwork | "Stuff happens" |
| 07:24.14 | Cartas | The only thing I've spun that flattens is a pancake... |
| 07:24.18 | Wobwork | mmm |
| 07:24.23 | Cartas | That's like, 1 in 99999999999999999999... things. |
| 07:24.23 | the-golem | bah |
| 07:24.26 | MoonWolf | cartas, well, i WANT it to flatten because normal sphere's do that too when spun |
| 07:24.28 | the-golem | it wouldnt flatten out |
| 07:24.35 | Cartas | They do? |
| 07:24.36 | the-golem | it would phase out of time |
| 07:24.39 | Cartas | Like, a basketball flattens? |
| 07:24.40 | the-golem | :-| |
| 07:24.46 | Wobwork | time isn't the fourth dimension =P |
| 07:24.51 | Wobwork | cartographically |
| 07:24.54 | the-golem | shhhhhhhhh |
| 07:24.54 | MoonWolf | cartas, given enough spinning and lack of soldiness |
| 07:24.55 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 07:25.04 | Cartas | Ah, assuming lack of solidness, okay. |
| 07:25.35 | Wobwork | bai! |
| 07:25.47 | Dreadmaster | hrmm i have decided |
| 07:25.50 | Dreadmaster | i like you people :) |
| 07:25.51 | MoonWolf | cartas, universe looks rather like a whole lot of nothing with some somethings stuck in between to me. |
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| 07:26.03 | Cartas | But there cannot be nothing. |
| 07:26.16 | MoonWolf | yes there can |
| 07:26.18 | MoonWolf | nothing is all the time |
| 07:26.21 | MoonWolf | or isn't |
| 07:26.24 | Cartas | Nothing is an abstract idea. |
| 07:26.25 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 07:26.26 | MoonWolf | depends on how you look at it. |
| 07:26.43 | ckknight | nothing = the mass inside a vacuum |
| 07:27.02 | ckknight | well, not mass |
| 07:27.08 | ckknight | the objects inside a vacuum |
| 07:27.14 | MoonWolf | the lack of mass |
| 07:27.18 | ckknight | i.e. no objects, thus, nothing |
| 07:27.20 | MoonWolf | a true vacuum has nothing. |
| 07:27.34 | Cartas | Hey, what's this? A vacuum! |
| 07:27.37 | ckknight | which has 0 mass |
| 07:27.39 | Cartas | Not nothing, but a vacuum! |
| 07:27.40 | Megalon | well, the interstelar medium is not empty |
| 07:27.48 | ckknight | no, Cartas, inside the vacuum |
| 07:27.58 | MoonWolf | cartas, now are in the realm of names |
| 07:28.00 | Cartas | Hm... a vacuum is inside of a vacuum. |
| 07:28.01 | ckknight | Megalon, did we say anything about space? |
| 07:28.04 | Cartas | Right? |
| 07:28.06 | ckknight | no. |
| 07:28.22 | Cartas | Oh? |
| 07:28.28 | ckknight | I'm talking about a perfect vacuum, Megalon. Space's isn't perfect |
| 07:28.32 | krka | nothing is the content of an empty set :) |
| 07:28.47 | Cartas | Abstract :P |
| 07:28.48 | Megalon | a perfect vacuum exactly exists.. where? |
| 07:28.50 | ckknight | also true, krka |
| 07:28.58 | cryogen | ckknight: stop arguing and fix the big in fubar_topscorefu! (or give me permission to do so :) |
| 07:28.59 | ckknight | Megalon, you can make one in a lab. |
| 07:29.09 | ckknight | you have full permission to hack to your heart's content. |
| 07:29.19 | ckknight | feel free to put your name under X-Credits if you want |
| 07:29.26 | krka | perfect vacuums probably exist if you consider a small enough volume |
| 07:29.27 | cryogen | thank you sir |
| 07:29.30 | cryogen | its just a one liner |
| 07:29.54 | ckknight | krka, yea. |
| 07:30.22 | MoonWolf | perect vacuums exist between all particles of matter. |
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| 07:30.28 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Disable treenodes on level 2+ properly |
| 07:30.28 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:30.34 | MoonWolf | they get pretty small though |
| 07:30.45 | ckknight | well, if you go small enough, then you could take any two electrons that are extremely close and not touching, they have nothing between them |
| 07:31.02 | MoonWolf | thus my very first statement |
| 07:31.07 | Cartas | That's just an abstract idea though, really? Just like... the space inbetween two objects? |
| 07:31.12 | MoonWolf | <MoonWolf> cartas, universe looks rather like a whole lot of nothing with some somethings stuck in between to me. |
| 07:31.17 | ckknight | it's not abstract, Cartas |
| 07:31.18 | NightHawkTheSan1 | well, you'd probably have to go smaller than an electron, but meh |
| 07:31.30 | ckknight | well, yea. |
| 07:32.32 | Megalon | do you really think you can create a perfect vacuum on earth? |
| 07:32.46 | the-golem | ooh oooh |
| 07:32.47 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 07:32.49 | ckknight | I believe it's possible, with the right equipment |
| 07:32.54 | the-golem | whats this |
| 07:32.57 | ckknight | and time |
| 07:32.58 | the-golem | __________ |
| 07:33.07 | Cartas | Hangman? |
| 07:33.12 | ckknight | underscore? |
| 07:33.15 | Cartas | Oh |
| 07:33.17 | the-golem | a triangle ^^ |
| 07:33.24 | ckknight | ...no |
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| 07:33.26 | MoonWolf | eeeuh ? |
| 07:33.30 | the-golem | *sigh* |
| 07:33.31 | MoonWolf | what are you on exactly ? |
| 07:33.38 | Megalon | Perfect vacuum is an ideal state that cannot be obtained in a laboratory, nor can it be found in outer space. |
| 07:33.40 | Cartas | In a non-euclidian sense, perhaps :P |
| 07:33.47 | the-golem | if you take a triangle, and stretch it out over the earth |
| 07:34.02 | MoonWolf | you get a sphere |
| 07:34.02 | Cartas | But you had gaps inbetween the lines... |
| 07:34.05 | the-golem | eventually it becomes *straight*, circumventing the earth |
| 07:34.08 | MoonWolf | or, circle anyway |
| 07:34.08 | ckknight | Megalon, why can't it be obtained in a lab? |
| 07:34.15 | the-golem | then you just look at it sideways |
| 07:34.16 | Cartas | ___: GAPS inbetween the lines! |
| 07:34.20 | Cartas | Meaning it's not a triangle. |
| 07:34.23 | Cartas | It'll have loads of sides. |
| 07:34.29 | MoonWolf | circle |
| 07:34.32 | the-golem | Cartas: no, its still a triangle |
| 07:34.38 | Cartas | :o |
| 07:34.43 | the-golem | if you keep stretching it |
| 07:34.45 | Cartas | Just a triangle in dotted lines? |
| 07:34.45 | ckknight | you have to define the geometry you're working in. |
| 07:34.46 | MoonWolf | the-golem, is it following the curve ? |
| 07:34.49 | the-golem | it becomes a triangle again |
| 07:35.06 | the-golem | ckknight: non-euclidean curvespace |
| 07:35.09 | Cartas | lol |
| 07:35.21 | Cartas | (08:33:44) (the-golem) __________ So this wasn't a triangle? |
| 07:35.31 | Cartas | Because it didn't stretch around the world to touch itself at the other end? |
| 07:35.39 | Cartas | You failed! |
| 07:35.45 | Cartas | It's just part of a triangle. |
| 07:35.48 | the-golem | Cartas: i said you look at it sideways |
| 07:35.49 | the-golem | gosh |
| 07:35.51 | the-golem | :P |
| 07:36.02 | Megalon | well if you got 1 cm^3 with only 1 particle in it |
| 07:36.18 | Megalon | there is not 0.5 cm^3 which is a perfect vacuum and 0.5cm^3 which isn't |
| 07:36.22 | MoonWolf | i can rotate a triangle in 3d space and get that image from one side of it |
| 07:36.27 | MoonWolf | not earth required. |
| 07:36.32 | MoonWolf | no* |
| 07:36.39 | Cartas | A triangle doesn't exist in 3d space. |
| 07:36.46 | ckknight | yes it does, Cartas |
| 07:36.50 | Cartas | It does? :o |
| 07:36.51 | ckknight | just as planes exist |
| 07:36.59 | Cartas | Well, 2D objects have 0 depth. |
| 07:37.04 | MoonWolf | so ? |
| 07:37.05 | ckknight | so? |
| 07:37.12 | Cartas | How can you see a triangle from the side? |
| 07:37.15 | ckknight | doesn't mean it can't exist in 3d space |
| 07:37.32 | ckknight | technically, if you were to look at it perfectly from the side, you'd see nothing |
| 07:37.33 | art3mis | it can exist, it's just not 3dimensional ;P |
| 07:37.47 | MoonWolf | try looking at something from a side perfectly |
| 07:37.48 | MoonWolf | not that easy |
| 07:37.49 | Cartas | Okay, it could exist, it just can never be seen. |
| 07:37.58 | art3mis | and technically a perfect sphere is a 1dimensional object |
| 07:37.58 | MoonWolf | cartas, sure, look from above. |
| 07:38.02 | the-golem | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Triangles_%28spherical_geometry%29.jpg |
| 07:38.06 | Cartas | But it has no depth, MoonWolf. |
| 07:38.06 | ckknight | MoonWolf, also, on earth, things have at least a depth of one particle |
| 07:38.08 | Cartas | How can you seei t? |
| 07:38.11 | ckknight | whereas planes have 0 depth |
| 07:38.20 | MoonWolf | true enough |
| 07:38.27 | MoonWolf | without dept it would have not mass to reflect light off. |
| 07:38.41 | ckknight | yea, yea |
| 07:38.42 | MoonWolf | no* |
| 07:38.47 | ckknight | no, Cartas |
| 07:38.52 | ckknight | lern2geometry |
| 07:38.54 | Cartas | Hm? :o |
| 07:38.58 | CIA-7 | 03orionshock * r52955 10SorrenTimers/ (SorrenTimers.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 07:38.58 | CIA-7 | SorrenTimers: |
| 07:38.58 | CIA-7 | - add embeds.xml, load the libs that are being distributed with this mod. |
| 07:39.02 | the-golem | lol |
| 07:39.27 | ckknight | I took a class on 3-dimensional geometry like 4 years ago |
| 07:39.38 | Cartas | Is it possible to see a 2D object? |
| 07:39.55 | the-golem | not being able to see somethign does not mean it doesnt exist |
| 07:40.04 | Cartas | As I said earlier, they may exist, just cannot be seen :o |
| 07:40.20 | ckknight | 2d objects don't exist in this reality |
| 07:40.21 | the-golem | "a triangle doesnt exist in 3D space" |
| 07:40.23 | ckknight | so the point is moot |
| 07:40.37 | Cartas | Woo! |
| 07:40.43 | ckknight | in a hypothetical 3d space where 2d planes can exist, it's possible |
| 07:41.04 | ckknight | but you never specifically said to limit yourself to this reality |
| 07:41.14 | the-golem | hehehe |
| 07:41.19 | Cartas | You never specifically said you weren't. :| |
| 07:41.24 | Cartas | You hypocrite! |
| 07:41.28 | ckknight | ...no |
| 07:41.30 | ckknight | just no |
| 07:41.54 | MoonWolf | lack of definition does not make one a hypocritical..... |
| 07:42.15 | ckknight | bbiab |
| 07:42.17 | Cartas | Well, when you complain about someone's lack of definition when you yourself didn't define is hypocritical, right? :P |
| 07:42.30 | MoonWolf | no |
| 07:42.33 | Cartas | :o |
| 07:42.36 | Cartas | But... but... it is! |
| 07:42.40 | the-golem | no |
| 07:42.58 | Cartas | What's being hypocritical then? :( |
| 07:42.59 | MoonWolf | not in this case. |
| 07:43.05 | Orionshock | ... um Cartas is correct |
| 07:43.12 | the-golem | ^^ |
| 07:43.21 | Cartas | Bwahaha, more followers to my cause. |
| 07:43.25 | MoonWolf | fine he can go and be correct |
| 07:43.30 | the-golem | lol |
| 07:43.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | resorting to arguments about the definition of discourse are just weak, in general, really |
| 07:43.34 | Cartas | Please explain why it wasn't, MoonWolf! |
| 07:43.35 | Orionshock | "when you complain about someone's lack of definition when you yourself didn't define [one] is hypocritical" |
| 07:44.37 | Orionshock | ok fixed that mod.. off to play wow |
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| 07:46.22 | the-golem | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.49 | Cartas | Isn't that a contradiction? |
| 07:47.02 | Cartas | Oh, hm... |
| 07:47.05 | the-golem | ? |
| 07:47.09 | Cartas | Nevermind :p |
| 07:47.12 | the-golem | hehe |
| 07:47.13 | MoonWolf | hyprcisy usually is. |
| 07:47.28 | Nargiddley | expecting something of others than you don't do yourself is the general definition |
| 07:47.35 | Cartas | That's what I thought. |
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| 07:48.17 | the-golem | " i do THIS, and expect you do do the same " .. then goes off and does "NOT THIS" |
| 07:48.52 | ckknight | NO U |
| 07:48.53 | Cartas | What's it called if you expect someone to do something and don't do it yourself? |
| 07:49.05 | Neebler | hypocracy |
| 07:49.12 | the-golem | thats what i just said? |
| 07:49.15 | Cartas | No... |
| 07:49.17 | Toadkiller | no its laziness |
| 07:49.22 | Cartas | You said 'I do THIS' at the start. |
| 07:49.32 | the-golem | ah right |
| 07:49.34 | Cartas | I was asking what is it without that part on. |
| 07:50.14 | the-golem | i think its usually implied :/ |
| 07:50.20 | Cartas | Which is why I called CK a hypocrite! Because he expected me to do something and didn't do it himself :P |
| 07:50.30 | the-golem | ... |
| 07:50.30 | Cartas | But... you say that wasn't right? |
| 07:50.42 | the-golem | he did? |
| 07:50.53 | ckknight | no, it's because you arbitrarily limited your scope, which I figured you should include all scopes by default unless specified |
| 07:51.10 | ZealotOnAStick | it'd be hypocrisy, and that's not really accurate. Hypocrisy is more, saying "people should act like this" and then not following through with that yourself. |
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| 07:51.18 | the-golem | yeah i was gonna say that, but not as cool :-/ |
| 07:51.24 | Cartas | Hm, I assumed otherwise, CK! I infer that, unless otherwise specified, when talking about geometry, one assumes our 'reality'. |
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| 07:52.13 | ckknight | since we were talking about 2d euclidean geometry vs. 3d geometry, I figured it'd be best to stick to pure mathematics and not delve into the physical realm as much as possible |
| 07:52.38 | Cartas | Oh you. |
| 07:52.46 | the-golem | i *was* talking about a line being a triangle |
| 07:52.56 | the-golem | which is kinda .. not reality, idk .. |
| 07:53.24 | ckknight | yea, it's not, since triangles as segments of planes do not exist in reality |
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| 07:53.31 | ckknight | but can exist in a mathematical 3d model |
| 07:53.43 | Cartas | Maths can do everything. |
| 07:53.55 | MoonWolf | well |
| 07:53.59 | MoonWolf | almost everything |
| 07:54.00 | ckknight | for it to "exist" in the physical realm, it would need to be given depth, at which point, it would no longer be a true triangle |
| 07:54.12 | ckknight | Maths can't solve the halting problem |
| 07:54.15 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 07:54.17 | Cartas | What's that then? |
| 07:54.41 | MoonWolf | some complicated math problem only mathematicians care about i think |
| 07:54.51 | ckknight | and there's a bunch of other unsolveable problems out there |
| 07:54.56 | ckknight | I care, MoonWolf |
| 07:54.59 | Toadkiller | What if it has a property like gravity and we cannot see it but it nevertheless interacts / has an effect on our dimension? |
| 07:55.11 | MoonWolf | Toadkiller, gravity is not an object. |
| 07:55.23 | ckknight | Toadkiller, it'd need to be a force of some kind, or exert a force of some kind |
| 07:55.25 | Toadkiller | Yes, its a property... |
| 07:55.27 | Cartas | He said it was a property. |
| 07:55.38 | Megalon | gravity is equivalent to mass |
| 07:55.45 | ckknight | no, Megalon |
| 07:55.51 | MoonWolf | Megalon, NO. |
| 07:56.04 | the-golem | LOL |
| 07:56.13 | ckknight | one's mass affects the amount of gravity, but they are by no means equivalent. |
| 07:56.24 | Toadkiller | For instance, in string theory it is theorized that gravity is hard to combione with quantum dynamics precisely because it originates from a differently dimensioned object.... |
| 07:56.35 | art3mis | Toadkiller: any reason that autobar isnt cycircled skinning with yesterdays "release" ? |
| 07:56.49 | art3mis | string throey is crap |
| 07:56.52 | art3mis | theory |
| 07:56.53 | Toadkiller | What about tonights release? |
| 07:56.54 | Megalon | so you are going to discuss the 11 dimensional mother theory |
| 07:56.56 | ckknight | Toadkiller, string theory already has like 11 dimensions |
| 07:57.06 | Toadkiller | YEah exactly |
| 07:57.07 | Cartas | Only 11? |
| 07:57.14 | Cartas | TV really has ruined people's imaginations. |
| 07:57.20 | ckknight | lol. |
| 07:57.28 | art3mis | string theory is based on the postulate that even if it is wrong it's not like anyone can prove it ;P |
| 07:57.46 | ckknight | lol, yea, that's my main beef with string theory |
| 07:57.51 | Toadkiller | SO if there are 11 max then some objects may exist in less than 11. For instance some branes are thought to be close to ours & when they "collide" you have a localize big bang |
| 07:57.55 | ckknight | there's hypothesis, but no real way to test |
| 07:57.56 | art3mis | ckknight: read the book "not even wrong" |
| 07:58.01 | art3mis | its GREAT |
| 07:58.10 | ckknight | I think I read part of that. |
| 07:58.23 | art3mis | basically this guy spends the entire time calling all string phsycisits morons and the thoery utter and complete crap |
| 07:58.38 | Toadkiller | Well the test is to see if the gravitational law remains constant over small distances or goes to a cubed function or something |
| 07:58.41 | art3mis | and akins them to religious zealots |
| 07:59.04 | Toadkiller | Lol true, sting theory may not even be wrong |
| 07:59.07 | art3mis | the best part is that brian greene and the other author both teach at columbia |
| 07:59.20 | ckknight | art3mis, well, I think string theory has merit, and if the theory can fit the data we have, then that's great, the main issue that I see is that there's a lot of stuff where we don't have enough data |
| 07:59.45 | art3mis | true to a degree, and im even partial to the idea that we don't have the ability to test for it "yet" |
| 07:59.58 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:00.06 | ckknight | <3 gravitrons |
| 08:00.10 | art3mis | but to pervert and hidner ALL other branches to support a single idea with no verifiable proof seems rather mystic thatn scientific |
| 08:00.24 | ckknight | agreed |
| 08:00.52 | Toadkiller | art3mis: Iahve an issue with the damn spell book not being populated when I do my initial AutoBar setup. So I put in a callback on a timer for init. THis required a complication in cyCircled. I am probably going to straight up init everything, then let cyCircled call whenever & still have a timer to reinit once spells finally arrive |
| 08:00.58 | art3mis | its nice to see that more are thinking that way and actually attempting to go to the other branches and not just jump at string thoery as a guaranteed thesis |
| 08:00.59 | ckknight | bbiab |
| 08:01.22 | art3mis | Toadkiller: ahh |
| 08:01.24 | art3mis | okay |
| 08:01.34 | art3mis | i figured the easiest way was a mod to cy, in what it calls |
| 08:02.02 | art3mis | either way, i like autobar too much to get all pissy about it not skinning once or twice |
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| 08:02.21 | CIA-7 | DaHud: |
| 08:02.21 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.33 | Toadkiller | The string theory research is not all bad. It has unified several theories & enabled some calculations we were unable to perform b4. No path, even a dead end one is totally a waste of time. Except for religion of course |
| 08:03.01 | Toadkiller | <-- Bored & lobbing grenades ;-p |
| 08:03.01 | art3mis | its not that it doesnt have some valid points and hasnt helped |
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| 08:03.21 | art3mis | its mostly that it became for a long while as the ONLY ways to succeed in pyshics |
| 08:03.40 | art3mis | and many equally valid and perhaps more "testable" theories died |
| 08:03.46 | art3mis | without a fighting chance |
| 08:04.00 | ckknight | I had a religious experience the other day, Toadkiller |
| 08:04.05 | ckknight | granted, it was just a dream |
| 08:04.06 | art3mis | i mean take a look at quantum mechnics |
| 08:04.12 | Toadkiller | Well it was a hot area until it dissolved into an unprovable mess. There will either be a breakthrough or the real next theory will supplant it. |
| 08:04.12 | art3mis | it's insane |
| 08:04.13 | ckknight | so it could be argued I have a vivid imagination |
| 08:04.29 | art3mis | and was supported by only a few people at the time |
| 08:05.02 | Toadkiller | Oh man does your religious experience command you to implement dragObject so I can take AutoBar to the Rock? |
| 08:05.11 | art3mis | no, no it doesnt |
| 08:05.18 | ckknight | I will do that, Toadkiller |
| 08:05.29 | ckknight | I'll likely call it type = 'link', so you know :-P |
| 08:05.40 | Toadkiller | sounds good & simple |
| 08:06.00 | Zhinjio | Good evening, ckknight. |
| 08:06.07 | Zhinjio | and Toadkiller |
| 08:06.11 | ckknight | I'm working on another big project right now, so you know |
| 08:06.14 | Toadkiller | hey zhin |
| 08:06.24 | ckknight | taking up most of my time |
| 08:06.29 | Toadkiller | If you want I can hack at it as a way to get into the Rock thing |
| 08:06.41 | art3mis | someone really needs to include "rock or ace2" in the wau update line |
| 08:06.44 | Toadkiller | & post it somewhere for you to approve & merge |
| 08:06.59 | ckknight | oh yea, I have no issue with that |
| 08:07.10 | ckknight | the code in LibRockConfig-1.0 is _reasonably_ straight-forward |
| 08:07.31 | Zhinjio | so far, my experiences with Rock have been favorable. |
| 08:07.33 | ckknight | it has some semblance of organization, at least |
| 08:07.33 | ckknight | if you get stuck, just tell me |
| 08:07.35 | Toadkiller | Sweet, I will get on that this week sometime hopefully. watefalls limitations are starting to bug me |
| 08:07.42 | Zhinjio | with a couple small, work-around-able exceptions. |
| 08:07.53 | Zhinjio | (which were mostly me just learning wtf I was doing) |
| 08:08.03 | ckknight | Toadkiller, my recommendation right now: duplicate stringControl as linkControl |
| 08:08.07 | ckknight | and hack it to do what you want. |
| 08:08.18 | Toadkiller | All right |
| 08:08.32 | ckknight | Toadkiller, and later, potentially adding an icon or whatever could be an idea |
| 08:08.36 | ckknight | :-) |
| 08:08.59 | Chompers | big wow project ckknight? |
| 08:09.06 | Chompers | or unrelated to wow |
| 08:09.09 | ckknight | or arbitrarily specifying a name of a link, it turning into a real link |
| 08:09.10 | Toadkiller | THe icon would have to be there sooner since it needs to support macros spells & itemLinks |
| 08:09.21 | ckknight | Chompers, wow-related |
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| 08:09.34 | art3mis | i need to find someone to make my project |
| 08:09.38 | ckknight | Toadkiller, icon isn't needed, it's an extra |
| 08:09.45 | ckknight | Toadkiller, links are handled by names |
| 08:09.54 | Toadkiller | YEah but one text field doesnt cut it either... |
| 08:10.03 | Orionshock | " art3mis >someone really needs to include "rock or ace2" in the wau update line " no |
| 08:10.05 | ckknight | do what feels right :-) |
| 08:10.43 | Toadkiller | Mmm, there is no itemLink type thingie for macros & spells is there? |
| 08:10.57 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 08:11.09 | art3mis | Orionshock: yes, i personally dont want to use librock addons, and i hate leeching something only to find uotthat rocks screwedup/taken over my normal niagara config panel |
| 08:11.22 | Toadkiller | itemLink is #$%#$$$$$$$$$$^QW#|Item:blahblahblah |
| 08:11.29 | ckknight | Rock doesn't touch Niagara. |
| 08:11.38 | art3mis | niag/waterfall |
| 08:11.41 | ckknight | Toadkiller, oh yea, they're all like that. |
| 08:11.43 | art3mis | it takes over the config panel |
| 08:11.47 | ckknight | art3mis, it doesn't touch Waterfall, either |
| 08:11.54 | ckknight | they can work side-by-side |
| 08:11.57 | Toadkiller | As far as I know spells are just spellName & spellBookType |
| 08:12.17 | art3mis | then explain to me how i can accidently install fubar and get the rock config, remove fubar and have the normal niag/waterfall config winder |
| 08:12.23 | ckknight | Toadkiller, quite possible |
| 08:12.24 | Toadkiller | Oh yeah & pet or spell so 3 bits of data |
| 08:12.41 | ckknight | art3mis, FuBar uses LibRockConfig-1.0 |
| 08:12.48 | art3mis | on something that didnt previously have a librock config |
| 08:12.54 | Orionshock | art3mis: b/c your misInformed as to how it actualy works...? |
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| 08:13.05 | art3mis | calling on addons that that i KNOW arent rock |
| 08:13.11 | art3mis | and seeing a rock config window |
| 08:13.22 | ckknight | that doesn't happen as how I've coded it. |
| 08:13.37 | art3mis | might wanna check it again then |
| 08:13.56 | art3mis | i had a ace copy of quartz in my dir that i didnt update |
| 08:14.09 | art3mis | accidently updated fubar to rock version |
| 08:14.16 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.19 | art3mis | up pops rock config |
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| 08:14.43 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:14.43 | CIA-7 | - Added enUS for Mad Alchemist's Potion, and Enchant Shield - Resilience (two new 2.3 recipes) |
| 08:14.48 | art3mis | shrug its a moot point to argue about that part |
| 08:14.49 | Orionshock | art3mis: your smoking something bad |
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| 08:15.00 | the-golem4232 | stupid innernets |
| 08:15.04 | art3mis | i just think that there should be a differentiation between ace2 and rock stuff on the svn |
| 08:15.24 | [Ammo] | art3mis: rock takes over config of your fubar plugins -> normal config byebye |
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| 08:15.25 | ckknight | no it doesn't |
| 08:15.28 | Orionshock | art3mis: it won't happen, it's the same arguments for why you should not tag -Ace2- on to mods |
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| 08:15.41 | the-golem4232 | thats bull |
| 08:15.48 | Orionshock | [Ammo] wrong too ... sorry |
| 08:15.50 | Toadkiller | art3mis: the only reason to differentiate is to make irrational kids that refuse to use Rock out of some ignorant delusion happy |
| 08:16.01 | the-golem4232 | i get normal configs for all my fb plugins |
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| 08:16.21 | art3mis | or to avoid using something thats gonna change something in your ui that you dont want to change |
| 08:16.24 | [Ammo] | could be artemis is just misclicking fubar |
| 08:16.34 | Orionshock | i think that's whats going on |
| 08:16.37 | art3mis | [Ammo]: command line quartz config |
| 08:16.44 | art3mis | rock config window |
| 08:16.49 | [Ammo] | quartz uses waterfall afaik |
| 08:16.57 | Orionshock | art3mis: i have rock , and i have quartz |
| 08:16.58 | Toadkiller | If u dont like change u need to not update anything tho... |
| 08:17.04 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.05 | Cartas | Don't use Quartz, art3mis! |
| 08:17.12 | art3mis | Toadkiller: no i just need to not use rock stuff |
| 08:17.13 | the-golem4232 | lol |
| 08:17.18 | the-golem4232 | theres nothign wrong with quarts |
| 08:17.24 | the-golem4232 | quartz |
| 08:17.30 | Toadkiller | Are you a programmer at all art3mis? |
| 08:17.31 | art3mis | and id like some sort of advanced warning if something is gonna use rock |
| 08:17.52 | Toadkiller | Well in case you are using AutoBar, consider yourself warned |
| 08:18.27 | the-golem4232 | speaking of which |
| 08:18.35 | the-golem4232 | .... |
| 08:18.39 | the-golem4232 | WTF IS THIS? |
| 08:18.47 | Cartas | 4232? |
| 08:19.04 | Dreadmage | am i right in assuming that if i put "break" into a function it will stop the function there? |
| 08:19.15 | the-golem | Cartas: yeah i d/c |
| 08:19.17 | Toadkiller | the-golem4232: Hold on a sec while I use lamarckian evolution to develop telepathy & mindread your question |
| 08:19.25 | Cartas | What's the number mean? |
| 08:19.28 | Cartas | Is that your PIN number? |
| 08:19.38 | the-golem | Cartas: i have no fucking clue |
| 08:19.40 | Cartas | lol |
| 08:19.43 | MoonWolf | lies |
| 08:19.47 | MoonWolf | it IS his pin. |
| 08:19.48 | the-golem | it got added randomly |
| 08:19.51 | MoonWolf | he's trying to hide it! |
| 08:19.56 | Cartas | Ahaha |
| 08:19.58 | the-golem | LOL |
| 08:19.58 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:20.00 | MoonWolf | don't listen tohim. |
| 08:20.03 | MoonWolf | to him* |
| 08:20.07 | the-golem | my alt names shoudl be _ and __ |
| 08:20.41 | the-golem | fixd |
| 08:20.45 | Cartas | lol |
| 08:21.13 | Dreadmage | anyone ? |
| 08:22.23 | the-golem | Dreadmage: sounds right ish |
| 08:22.24 | Orionshock | ? |
| 08:22.38 | the-golem | dont remember if lua has break or not |
| 08:22.51 | Xinhuan | lua has "break". |
| 08:22.59 | Xinhuan | but it only breaks from for loops |
| 08:23.02 | Xinhuan | or while loops |
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| 08:23.08 | the-golem | yeah |
| 08:23.22 | Xinhuan | if you want to break from a function, you use "return" |
| 08:23.27 | the-golem | i made the leap to loops |
| 08:24.15 | Dreadmage | aye well im trying to break a loop |
| 08:24.16 | the-golem | ckknight: *poke* |
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| 08:24.20 | Dreadmage | that checks for debuffs |
| 08:24.41 | Dreadmage | and if it finds the debuff im looking for i dont need to check further thus stop the loop |
| 08:24.42 | Dreadmage | i guess |
| 08:25.08 | Zhinjio | you can "break" from the while loop you're in, and then return |
| 08:25.20 | Zhinjio | if the while is inside the function |
| 08:25.25 | Dreadmage | it is |
| 08:25.25 | Dreadmage | :) |
| 08:25.31 | Dreadmage | <-- new to lua |
| 08:25.42 | MoonWolf | you could return from the loop ? |
| 08:25.50 | MoonWolf | or does that make to much sense ? |
| 08:26.16 | Toadkiller | if (targetDebuff == myDebuff) then break end |
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| 08:26.40 | Toadkiller | Put that inside your for loop |
| 08:26.52 | the-golem | ckknight: a little suggestion for pitbull, maybe. I've no idea how feasable it will be though. However -- could there possibly be some "perconfigured" setups regarding different modules / unitframes |
| 08:26.53 | Dreadmage | aye |
| 08:27.09 | Dreadmage | just did a test though and it seems to end when its out of debuffs which is good :) |
| 08:27.54 | the-golem | ckknight: for example, as a tank, you dont need raid/party targets, tank targets, tank ToT, etc etc |
| 08:28.15 | the-golem | heal lines |
| 08:29.39 | Cartas | I use tank target's... |
| 08:29.43 | Zhinjio | Toadkiller; my guildmistress made me promise to pass along a request for autobar |
| 08:29.47 | Cartas | Although that's a function of oRA, right? |
| 08:29.56 | Toadkiller | ... |
| 08:29.59 | Zhinjio | she thinks the config now is alot more complex, and she misses the old one. |
| 08:30.05 | Zhinjio | I told her not to hold her breath |
| 08:30.13 | Zhinjio | but I did promise. and so there you have it. |
| 08:30.13 | the-golem | Cartas: no .. Pitbull has like a bajillion unitframes |
| 08:30.26 | Cartas | I don't use it myself, so, not entirely sure, sorry! :P |
| 08:30.50 | the-golem | Cartas: and anyway, as a *tank* you dont erally need tank targets |
| 08:31.03 | Toadkiller | Well the config frankly sucks right now compared to what it will be. However as of now you can ctrl-click the autobar icon & then drag & drop to rearrange your buttons... DO you know what else she is missing? |
| 08:31.11 | Cartas | I know, it just helps to find a certain mob in the middle of a fight :p |
| 08:31.19 | Cartas | Althoguh the usage is rare, I agree. |
| 08:31.51 | Toadkiller | Tomorrow I am going to finish supporting dragging buttons between bars & then I will be able to release an extra bar for each class |
| 08:32.04 | MoonWolf | Toadkiller, not only that , the config seems to plain ot work the way it should at time |
| 08:32.20 | Zhinjio | lemme finish this aoe pull, and I'll ask |
| 08:32.25 | Toadkiller | MoonWolf: How do you mean? |
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| 08:32.37 | Cartas | Are humans animals? To me, it seems pretty obvious they are, but someone people seem so offended by this notion that they blindly defend it... :S |
| 08:32.47 | Cartas | some people* |
| 08:32.56 | MoonWolf | Toadkiller, i have a druid on another account i play at times, its using the default config, but no buttons show up on his autobar besides mounts and forms. |
| 08:32.57 | MoonWolf | nothing |
| 08:33.03 | Toadkiller | Our DNA is no different from any other animals dna |
| 08:33.04 | MoonWolf | no matter how hard i try. |
| 08:33.05 | the-golem | Cartas: lolwut? |
| 08:33.25 | the-golem | we arent "animals" we are "mammals" |
| 08:33.32 | Cartas | Mammals are animals though? |
| 08:33.36 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 08:33.37 | Toadkiller | mammals ARE animals |
| 08:33.37 | Cartas | Mammal is a subsection of animal! |
| 08:33.45 | the-golem | *sigh* |
| 08:33.53 | Cartas | Well... all mammals are animals, except hoomans! According to a lot of people :| |
| 08:33.58 | the-golem | "animal" implies a type of behavior |
| 08:34.00 | Cartas | No idea why we're singled out like that. |
| 08:34.02 | MoonWolf | those arn't mammals, those are cows. |
| 08:34.19 | Toadkiller | Cartas: Ok, but why care about someone elses superstitious beliefs? |
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| 08:34.30 | Toadkiller | Unless they are trying to burn u at the stake that is... |
| 08:34.32 | MoonWolf | to science humans ar mammals |
| 08:34.36 | Cartas | I just wanted to find out why people don't understand that :o |
| 08:34.37 | MoonWolf | and therefor animals |
| 08:34.45 | MoonWolf | to culture , this may not be the case. |
| 08:35.01 | MoonWolf | from wich standpoint are we arguing here ? |
| 08:35.09 | the-golem | <insert Blood Hound Gang plug here> |
| 08:35.26 | Cartas | The only standpoint, really... |
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| 08:35.53 | the-golem | there is no single standpoint |
| 08:36.05 | Zhinjio | she's trying drag and drop now. She didn't realize that worked. |
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| 08:36.24 | baer_ | moin. |
| 08:36.33 | the-golem | no, MOIN |
| 08:36.53 | Toadkiller | Look, Science is independent of the bs that some conman like Joseph Smith, Jesus, Mohammad, or David Karesh comes up with. Science only cares about hypotheses, tests & stuff u can discover for yourself to be true. |
| 08:36.56 | Zhinjio | I suspect I am going to end up using autobar in order to teach her how to use it. |
| 08:36.59 | Zhinjio | heh |
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| 08:37.29 | Toadkiller | Lol, jsut be warned, once u use it you cant live without it... |
| 08:37.48 | Zhinjio | yeah, I already decided when I first saw it that I was going to convert over to it when I had time. |
| 08:37.50 | Orionshock | i use autobar.. and i can live with out it |
| 08:37.50 | Toadkiller | Which is why I had to take it over when Saien took off |
| 08:37.51 | Zhinjio | so I'm just being lazy |
| 08:37.53 | Cartas | I never found a use for it myself, tbh, Toadkiller! :$ |
| 08:37.54 | Orionshock | .. it would just suck |
| 08:38.09 | the-golem | lolwut |
| 08:38.12 | the-golem | david karesh? |
| 08:38.19 | Toadkiller | True, you would not actuall ydie if u could not use it |
| 08:38.41 | Toadkiller | You know, the guy the feds burned in Waco Texas a few years ago |
| 08:38.53 | the-golem | nope |
| 08:39.11 | the-golem | *googles* |
| 08:39.13 | Toadkiller | Well think of him as any other cult leader you have ever heard of |
| 08:39.30 | Orionshock | no you'd die, i saw a line of code in there the other day "AutoBar:OnDelete(user,object) if object == "Autobar" then; Kill(user) end |
| 08:39.33 | Orionshock | ...end |
| 08:39.54 | Toadkiller | To a man they are sleeping with their disciples & parasitically living off the money others earn |
| 08:40.26 | Toadkiller | Not saying thats wrong, just that that automatically disqualifies their beliefs from serious consideration. |
| 08:42.04 | kebinusan | ~foxnews |
| 08:42.05 | purl | from memory, foxnews is brailsmt's favorite news. |
| 08:42.56 | CIA-7 | 03oridan * r52960 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 08:42.56 | CIA-7 | SpellReminder: |
| 08:42.56 | CIA-7 | - change default bargroups, should fix errors |
| 08:43.03 | Toadkiller | the-golem: David Karesh & his cult were some species of apocalyptic christians. They had machine guns &stuff & killed an ATF agent trying to investigate illegal gun ownership complaints. Then the feds kicked their ass. |
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| 08:44.08 | the-golem | Toadkiller: no |
| 08:45.16 | Orionshock | .. either way you cut the waco events - it was suspicious activity and then they wen't all fucked up on the feds... so the got their ass kicked.. end of story |
| 08:45.52 | Toadkiller | Yep, in a nutshell |
| 08:46.10 | Toadkiller | ... no pun intended ;-p |
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| 08:46.58 | Pkekwork | http://stillalive.moo.no/ <---- FULL OF WIN AND AWESOME<3 |
| 08:47.22 | Orionshock | the specific details of what happened are for gov nerds that have nothing better to do then to criticize the rest of us all day. |
| 08:47.33 | the-golem | considering koresh believed himself to be the Messiah, that distinctly makes his group not-cristian |
| 08:47.50 | the-golem | s/cristian/christian/ |
| 08:48.15 | Toadkiller | lol in what way does believing you are the mesiah make you not a christian? Dont forget now, Jesus believed he was the mesiah |
| 08:48.20 | kebinusan | The only difference between a cult and a religion is membership numbers |
| 08:48.25 | Orionshock | lol |
| 08:48.29 | Orionshock | kebinusan: that's debatable |
| 08:48.45 | the-golem | because christians believe that Jesus is the messiah |
| 08:48.48 | the-golem | not themselves |
| 08:48.57 | Orionshock | ~fail the-golem |
| 08:48.58 | purl | the-golem: Fail. |
| 08:49.13 | Toadkiller | & cam upo with some bullshit story about how he came & then is gonna come again, yet the old testament explicitly states there will be only 1 coming & many false prophets. That makes Jesus & Muhamad false prophets |
| 08:49.16 | Orionshock | the-golem: re read what he said |
| 08:49.33 | Toadkiller | hey wtf with cutting off the first part!!! |
| 08:49.51 | Toadkiller | oh nm I hit return i guess |
| 08:49.54 | the-golem | i see what he said |
| 08:50.16 | the-golem | that would make jesus to me christ, not cristian |
| 08:50.24 | the-golem | and i cant spell |
| 08:50.41 | Toadkiller | Well yeah, jesus was a jew ... |
| 08:50.57 | the-golem | s/to me/to be/ |
| 08:51.00 | Pkekwork | jesus was a guy who smoked one joint too many |
| 08:51.15 | Pkekwork | "look at mee! I can walk on zeh waaataaaaaaaaar!" <--- please, even I've done that |
| 08:51.20 | Orionshock | "Toadkiller: in what way does believing you are the mesiah make you not a christian? Dont forget now, Jesus believed he was the mesiah " meaning that Jesus beliving himself to be the mesiah is equal to kresh thought he was... |
| 08:52.52 | Pkekwork | discussing religion is just as productive as bashing your head into a brick wall :) |
| 08:52.58 | Toadkiller | Actually he was probably just another con man like we know mohammed was & more recently Joseph Smith was (he started the Mormons). Then hundreds of years later the stories baloon to the point where suddenly these people were prophets & mesiahs & whatnot. Yet if you knew them you would laugh. For instance Smith was a convicted con man & had engaged in numerous frauds b4 he made up his own religion |
| 08:53.31 | the-golem | and koresh was a pedo |
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| 08:53.55 | kebinusan | Well, I have no problem with christians as long as they dont walk around wearing poly cotton blends, eating a pork sandwich, while at the same time bashing homosexuality |
| 08:54.30 | the-golem | i like pork |
| 08:54.33 | Pkekwork | kebinusan: but if they engage in each of those activities at separate times it's fine? |
| 08:54.36 | the-golem | + chops |
| 08:54.38 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: all that before he was 15? |
| 08:54.52 | Pkekwork | tbh, pork is (at times, when prepared properly) full of win and awesome |
| 08:55.07 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: Exactly, now you are starting to see the pattern. Some dude makes up a religion so he can get laid. (Scientology, started by a sci-fi writer, whoo go sci-fi!!!). Then he gets a bunch of followers. If he is lucky7 & the rest of the world unlucky this baloons out of control & becomes an established religion |
| 08:55.18 | kebinusan | well its more a reference to choosing selectively what to believe from the old testament |
| 08:55.18 | the-golem | poly cotton, like, an elvis suit? |
| 08:56.06 | kebinusan | not beating your children, planting barely and corn in the same field, etc, etc |
| 08:56.11 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: WHo jesus? |
| 08:56.17 | Toadkiller | who was 15? |
| 08:56.23 | the-golem | no |
| 08:56.29 | Pkekwork | Toadkiller: the jesus that was a superstar |
| 08:56.30 | the-golem | the mormon guy |
| 08:56.48 | Toadkiller | Nah they did all their prime work in their 20's iirc |
| 08:56.49 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: i am LDS, and i can guarentee you that you nor others can produce one verifiable shread of proof to back up anything you just said |
| 08:57.19 | Pkekwork | Orionshock: LDS? some sort of STD? |
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| 08:57.30 | Lothaer | gday |
| 08:57.33 | the-golem | Pkekwork: nub :P |
| 08:57.34 | cladhaire | *forehead* |
| 08:57.38 | Toadkiller | Yeah but what is more likely: THat some dude from 2000 or 1600 or 400 years ago is the mesia / prophet etc. or that it is all bs |
| 08:57.53 | Lothaer | modding can be sooo frustrating |
| 08:57.58 | the-golem | Toadkiller: if you say so *shrug* |
| 08:58.08 | Pkekwork | I'll help you all out here: |
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| 08:58.25 | Pkekwork | I'm the messiah, and you're all screwed due to your blasphemous discussions |
| 08:58.30 | the-golem | Lothaer: i agree |
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| 08:58.55 | Lothaer | im trying to frankenstein 2 mods together >< |
| 08:58.58 | the-golem | Pkekwork: partyvan at ur door. dont forget the gasoline |
| 08:59.00 | Lothaer | NOT |
| 08:59.03 | Lothaer | WORKING |
| 08:59.08 | Toadkiller | I am going with bs because I have seen how this stuff works up close. As for Joseph Smith, he did all his stuff at the time we had good printed record. You can look up his felonies, you can read newspaper articles about him etc. Iguarantee if you do you will be wth are Mormons thinking believing such crap |
| 08:59.15 | MoonWolf | Lothaer, stop trying. |
| 08:59.19 | kebinusan | Charging interest for a loan is against a sin in the old testament |
| 08:59.39 | MoonWolf | tell the jews that |
| 09:00.01 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: ... prove it |
| 09:00.01 | Toadkiller | Now if Joseph Smith can make up such crap & start a sucessful religion then by induction you need to go back & question all religion. |
| 09:00.04 | [Liq] | Anyone with network experience? |
| 09:00.07 | Pkekwork | the-golem: how the flying fuck did you manage to get a van to my door? it's somewhat...err, unaccessible... |
| 09:00.13 | Orionshock | all you've done is produce conjecture and slander |
| 09:00.16 | Orionshock | no proof |
| 09:00.23 | kebinusan | [Liq]: ~asktoask |
| 09:00.26 | the-golem | Pkekwork: i've got connex :P |
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| 09:00.35 | Orionshock | if your going to bash, know what your bashing and be able to back it up |
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| 09:00.43 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r52961 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: |
| 09:00.43 | CIA-7 | FishermansFriend: |
| 09:00.43 | CIA-7 | - autolure added, should work for all locales |
| 09:00.43 | CIA-7 | - minor cleanups |
| 09:01.03 | pkekwrk | the-golem: ho wthe flying fuck did you get a van to my door? it's somewhat...err, inaccessible.. |
| 09:01.18 | the-golem | you said that already |
| 09:01.23 | the-golem | did u d/c? |
| 09:01.31 | pkekwrk | I did? disconnected, didn't see it go through |
| 09:01.44 | kebinusan | ~asktoask |
| 09:01.45 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 09:01.46 | the-golem | [02:00] the-golem: Pkekwork: i've got connex :P |
| 09:02.06 | pkekwrk | connex? |
| 09:02.13 | the-golem | connections |
| 09:02.15 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: ok, google "Mormon" "Joseph SMith" & read all about it. It is all there & unadulterated. It is not the bible where 400 years after Jesus may have lived they threw a bunch of stuff together &made it official, or more recently where the muslims threw it together a few hundred years after mohammed died. This is in actual recorded American history texts & documents form (200? years ago, like the 1850's or something) |
| 09:03.05 | pkekwrk | the-golem: I don't see how that'll help you get a van up there? |
| 09:03.14 | Toadkiller | It is riveting reading & gives great insight in the phenomenon of how religions come to be. |
| 09:03.22 | Lothaer | bloody women.... sry to any ladies in here but u girls sure can nag... |
| 09:03.24 | cladhaire | Toadkiller: He's mormon.. I suspect he knows the history. |
| 09:03.51 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: sorry your the one here making the accusations, the burden of proof falls on your not me. |
| 09:03.52 | Toadkiller | Ah I may have missed that. <-- slow typer & reader |
| 09:04.00 | Orionshock | *you, not me |
| 09:04.40 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: lrn2Argue, Lrn2logic |
| 09:04.42 | Orionshock | http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ |
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| 09:05.22 | pkekwrk | Orionshock: l2l2properly |
| 09:05.32 | Orionshock | lol Pkek |
| 09:05.35 | Lothaer | moonwolf: i wont stop trying people how dont try never achieve |
| 09:05.37 | MoonWolf | no no, we need to follow religous argument types here Orionshock |
| 09:05.37 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r52962 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: typo fix |
| 09:05.57 | pkekwrk | Orionshock: if you're gonna start cutting letters, might as well cut them all |
| 09:06.06 | Lothaer | pft religion, worst experiment ever |
| 09:06.16 | pkekwrk | what the flying fuck is a mormon anyways? |
| 09:06.21 | the-golem | pkekwrk: its a very small van |
| 09:06.23 | pkekwrk | Lothaer: I concur |
| 09:06.28 | MoonWolf | someone who beleives in the book of mormon |
| 09:06.29 | the-golem | matchbox/hotweels |
| 09:06.33 | the-golem | wheels* |
| 09:06.33 | MoonWolf | or the church of latter day saints. |
| 09:06.38 | pkekwrk | the-golem: a mormon is a very small van? |
| 09:06.41 | Lothaer | people who knock on your dorr 1st thing on a sunday morning "oreaching" the good word |
| 09:06.54 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 09:06.55 | Lothaer | meh im tired |
| 09:06.56 | Orionshock | all wrong |
| 09:07.02 | Lothaer | same shit different namwe |
| 09:07.13 | pkekwrk | Lothaer: oh, the ones that deserve to die several times? |
| 09:07.24 | the-golem | wtf? |
| 09:07.26 | MoonWolf | Orionshock, howsow ? |
| 09:07.27 | the-golem | pkekwrk: lol |
| 09:07.30 | the-golem | no! |
| 09:07.32 | the-golem | the partyvan |
| 09:07.33 | the-golem | gosh |
| 09:07.34 | Lothaer | Christianisn, Catholisism, Buddism, etc all the same shit with a different face |
| 09:07.36 | pkekwrk | the-golem: :D |
| 09:07.47 | Orionshock | MoonWolf: your second statment is actualy correct |
| 09:07.53 | pkekwrk | the-golem: must be a -really- small van...can't find it |
| 09:08.05 | Toadkiller | Ok here goes: Joseph Smith after a long career of fraud & dubious enterprises, hides away in his house behind a curtain & has various people like his wife &some friends sit on the other side of the curtain. They sit their while he dictates from the golden disks on his side of the curtain, discs sent by an angel. He dictates a new chapter in the story of Jesus where after he ascended in the middle east he flew over to america &landed here & lived amon |
| 09:08.10 | Lothaer | please |
| 09:08.16 | Lothaer | to copy and paste from the bible |
| 09:08.23 | Lothaer | or the tocra |
| 09:08.25 | Lothaer | or wat ever it is |
| 09:08.32 | CIA-7 | 03hegarol * r52963 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 09:08.32 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 09:08.32 | CIA-7 | - ZA update |
| 09:08.32 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: ... lol |
| 09:08.39 | Orionshock | you really don't understand that |
| 09:08.53 | MoonWolf | tora* |
| 09:09.05 | Lothaer | imho the world would be better off with out religion |
| 09:09.05 | Orionshock | in a very funny way |
| 09:09.16 | MoonWolf | wait |
| 09:09.18 | MoonWolf | torah |
| 09:09.24 | pkekwrk | Lothaer: indeed |
| 09:09.35 | pkekwrk | MoonWolf: gz on spelling :p |
| 09:09.36 | Orionshock | Lothaer: religion serves a need |
| 09:09.48 | Toadkiller | Lothaer: too true. Which is why I am now a hard core atheist & lacking in tolerance for religion & the ills it afflicts on humanity |
| 09:09.49 | Lothaer | only in your head |
| 09:09.56 | pkekwrk | religion serves greedy bastards out to get more money and control of people |
| 09:10.13 | MoonWolf | any more steps in this direction and we are going to stop this dicussion right now. |
| 09:10.20 | MoonWolf | religous bashing can go on in another channel |
| 09:10.25 | Lothaer | most ill are cause by man, praying to some non-existant deity wont make it go away |
| 09:10.40 | pkekwrk | the only reason religion was invented in the first place was to control people... "do as I say, or god, an immortal being, will spank you!" |
| 09:10.41 | Orionshock | don't forget the original FUNCTION of religion was to govern the people. |
| 09:10.44 | Zhinjio | I have to disagree with you on that point, Lothaer. But only because if religion didn't exist, the masses of people who rely on it to keep their base impulses from coming out would let them come out. And that, I'm afraid, would be a very bad bad place for the world to be. |
| 09:11.02 | Toadkiller | religion also serves pedophiles & provides them with a constant stream of victims & money to pay their court costs & different churches to go to when it gets a bit hot for them in their old church |
| 09:11.11 | Lothaer | people talk about the blind leading the blind |
| 09:11.33 | Zhinjio | I'm not saying it doesn't have its evil side (what doesn't). but oh man... if that crutch didn't exist, so much of the population would fall on its head. |
| 09:11.44 | Lothaer | IMO, the Bible and all other religions books and documents should be in the fiction section of the library.... right next to Harry Potter |
| 09:11.51 | theoddone33 | holy crap |
| 09:11.53 | the-golem | Lothaer: no, but praying to some supposed-non-existant-diety could ease your frame of mind, and enable you to cope with stuff |
| 09:11.55 | theoddone33 | I was gonna talk about WoW |
| 09:11.55 | MoonWolf | Toadkiller, that has NOTHING to do with religion and everything with a bunch of bastards. |
| 09:11.59 | theoddone33 | but I guess I got the wrong channel |
| 09:11.59 | Toadkiller | As for serving a need, yes there is a need for ceremony & wonder & the sublime but it can also be filled without resorting to religion |
| 09:12.08 | Lothaer | the-golem: temporarily |
| 09:12.11 | pkekwrk | <insert evil [self censored] reply to Zhinjuo's last statement here> |
| 09:12.12 | Zhinjio | and I have no idea why I got involved in this dscussion. I'm not even religious. |
| 09:12.20 | the-golem | Lothaer: *shrug* |
| 09:12.21 | Lothaer | it just numbs the pain it dosnt make it go away |
| 09:12.30 | kebinusan | Organized religion certainly has a meter of corruption, but if you actually read the new testament for example, the teachings of christ are alot more benign |
| 09:12.31 | the-golem | so does likker |
| 09:12.33 | Lothaer | and religion can do more harm than good |
| 09:12.37 | Orionshock | don't forget the original FUNCTION of religion was to govern the people ;; remember the Bible.. or did some of you neglect reading it too? |
| 09:12.39 | Lothaer | u wanna believe in somethinfg |
| 09:12.43 | Lothaer | believe in your self |
| 09:12.44 | Toadkiller | Yes but that is the evil of religion Moon. "I answer to a higher power therefore who cares what I do here" |
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| 09:13.00 | kebinusan | A shovel can do great harm! Ban the shovels! |
| 09:13.02 | MoonWolf | thats why we have laws. |
| 09:13.04 | Lothaer | ther eis no higher power |
| 09:13.19 | the-golem | Lothaer: thats as much a belief as there is one |
| 09:13.20 | MoonWolf | you cannot proove there is or that there isn't |
| 09:13.30 | MoonWolf | so thats statement is purely personal. |
| 09:13.32 | Lothaer | when you die your "spirit" dosnt accend to heave or hell, ur body just stays in the ground and rots |
| 09:13.42 | MoonWolf | yet again |
| 09:13.44 | the-golem | Lothaer: also a belief |
| 09:13.46 | MoonWolf | proof for neither case |
| 09:13.48 | MoonWolf | beleif |
| 09:13.49 | theoddone33 | your view is a tad unbalanced |
| 09:13.56 | Toadkiller | Or "I am going to heaven so I dont have to bother with this place I can suicide bomb, or kill people because they have or perform abortions or belong to some other religion or good grief a SLIGHTLY different version of my religion" |
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| 09:14.03 | Lothaer | more accurate though |
| 09:14.34 | the-golem | a spirit is incorporeal |
| 09:14.36 | MoonWolf | Toadkiller, you will be surprised how many religous quite clearly state that what you do "here" determines what happens to you "there" |
| 09:14.42 | Toadkiller | Hey do you believe there is a tea kettle in orbit around Uranus? |
| 09:14.42 | the-golem | non-physical |
| 09:14.46 | Lothaer | u show me physical proof of the existence of heaven and hell, god and jesus then ill believe |
| 09:14.50 | the-golem | so, you body could very well rot in the ground |
| 09:14.52 | MoonWolf | so killing a bunch of fuckers would be bad in most religions |
| 09:14.53 | Orionshock | > Toadkiller: "I answer to a higher power therefore who cares what I do here" < is fanaticism not religion. Religion would say "That because there is a higher power I care what I do here" |
| 09:14.56 | pkekwrk | like I said before this discussion heated up: discussing religion is just about as productive as bashing your head repeatedly into a brick wall |
| 09:15.02 | Lothaer | i know my body is gonna rott |
| 09:15.03 | the-golem | ANd you could very well go to "heaven" or somesuch |
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| 09:15.08 | Lothaer | and thats all its gonna do |
| 09:15.43 | pkekwrk | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.44 | MoonWolf | Lothaer, you seem to not grasp the concept of beleif. |
| 09:15.50 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: Religion is a way of transferring wealth from 1 set of people to another. It is the original chain letter: BELIEVE or bad things will happen to you. Oh yeah & now make your donation... |
| 09:15.58 | MoonWolf | ro faith more like |
| 09:16.03 | SunTsu | .o0( That's why I am agnostic. There may be a god, there may be not. I really don't care. ) |
| 09:16.06 | Orionshock | lol Toadkiller |
| 09:16.12 | the-golem | Toadkiller: no |
| 09:16.12 | theoddone33 | so much hate |
| 09:16.13 | MoonWolf | you have faith, against all lack of physical proof for either case, that something is going to happen. |
| 09:16.16 | the-golem | bad things are gonna happen anyway |
| 09:16.23 | the-golem | whether you believe or not ^^ |
| 09:16.23 | MoonWolf | after you die |
| 09:16.25 | kebinusan | Saying religion is bad or evil because of fanaticism is a bit of a stretch though, most religious teachings at their core are very tolerant |
| 09:16.43 | Lothaer | i believe in my self, i believe that men/woemn do shit not because some god tells them to do it but because they choose to |
| 09:16.45 | MoonWolf | you have faith, no matter the fact that you can't proove a thing that there is a god/higher being/power /whatever. |
| 09:16.56 | Toadkiller | YEah but the nazis were quite tolerant too, unless u were a jew or gypsie or retard |
| 09:17.26 | theoddone33 | nazis? |
| 09:17.26 | the-golem | nazi also wasnt a religion |
| 09:17.28 | theoddone33 | how did that happen |
| 09:17.30 | theoddone33 | come on |
| 09:17.30 | MoonWolf | Toadkiller, thats is soo misinformed its not even funny |
| 09:17.34 | Orionshock | look you got 4 options here in life, 1) there is a god and your good - your going to heaven, 2) there is a god and you where bad on earth - your going to hell, 3) there is no god and you wasted your time being good- and you've gain'ed and lost nothing, 4) there is no god and you where bad and lost nothing still. |
| 09:17.37 | the-golem | s/nazi/nazism/ |
| 09:17.39 | ramoz | What's MSBT 5.0? |
| 09:17.46 | kebinusan | An evil person taking a good idea and twisting it does not make the original idea evil |
| 09:17.48 | cladhaire | this is just an absolute bullshit-fest |
| 09:17.49 | theoddone33 | you guys don't even want to have a reasonable discussion so you should give up the pretense |
| 09:17.50 | Toadkiller | THe evil of religion is that it makes it ok to suffer right here & now because it is part of some uncaring god's "plan". It robs you of your will to make things better RIGHT NOW. |
| 09:17.56 | kebinusan | I think you just Godwin'd the conversation though |
| 09:17.56 | theoddone33 | this is just who can fling the most opinions at once |
| 09:18.03 | cladhaire | kebinusan: agreed. |
| 09:18.08 | pkekwrk | meh, off to my next lecture...laters |
| 09:18.15 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 09:18.15 | MoonWolf | soo |
| 09:18.17 | MoonWolf | discussion over |
| 09:18.26 | MoonWolf | continue somewhere else if you have too |
| 09:18.28 | kebinusan | ~godwin's law |
| 09:18.29 | purl | godwin's law is, like, http://www.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/faqs/godwin.faq, or http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html |
| 09:18.29 | MoonWolf | like pm's |
| 09:19.04 | MoonWolf | kebinusan, good observation btw, I should have noticed that. |
| 09:19.21 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: You are missing some options: 1a) You are good AND belong to the right religion: go directly to heaven. 1b) You are good & belong to the wrong religion: thank you for playing. Better luck next time. Oh wait, this is it, well ok go rot in hell forever. |
| 09:19.28 | the-golem | the 2nd link fails |
| 09:19.39 | cladhaire | Toadkiller: You godwin's the discussion, it has to stop now. |
| 09:19.50 | cladhaire | also, eff you for leaving the gays out in your mention of the nazis :P |
| 09:20.02 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: variations are irrelevant |
| 09:20.14 | the-golem | cladhaire: wasnt hitler himself gay |
| 09:20.15 | the-golem | ? |
| 09:20.15 | fridg | we should just make tuesday be bash organized religion day |
| 09:20.18 | the-golem | oh wait |
| 09:20.21 | the-golem | he was also a jew |
| 09:20.25 | the-golem | HYPOCRITE! |
| 09:20.25 | fridg | i think this channel would get more activity |
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| 09:20.40 | Toadkiller | cladhaire: hehe, my bad on that. I was nto trying to be complete though. |
| 09:20.40 | cladhaire | the-golem: I don't think there's a shred of historical information indicating he had homosexual tendencies |
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| 09:20.49 | kebinusan | btw Id recommend www.religoustolerance.org if you want some good research and fact checking |
| 09:21.03 | cladhaire | its not your bad.. but the laws dictate that the discussion ends |
| 09:21.11 | cladhaire | its was so full or horse shit anyway, that that is a good thing :P |
| 09:21.24 | Orionshock | LOL "It reads, according to the Jargon File:" |
| 09:21.26 | Toadkiller | agreed |
| 09:21.34 | Orionshock | the Jargon File.... |
| 09:21.47 | kebinusan | yeah its probably an old entry, could be updated to link to the wiki |
| 09:21.55 | cladhaire | and i'm taking a nap. |
| 09:22.10 | kebinusan | I dunno how to set keys with purl tho |
| 09:22.13 | kebinusan | but, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law |
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| 09:23.11 | sioraiocht | cladhaire: There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law. It is considered poor form to raise arbitrarily such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. =p |
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| 09:23.47 | theoddone33 | ok now I've got 83 bolts of netherweave queued |
| 09:23.52 | theoddone33 | I can talk about religion for 4 minutes |
| 09:23.55 | theoddone33 | oh it's over? what a shame |
| 09:24.03 | neenee | Hm. Does anyone here have a Paladin and uses him or her for healing? I want to know how Paladins deal with mana regen. Get mp5 gear? Or spirit? Or just focus on +healing and hope it doesn't come to low mana? |
| 09:24.13 | theoddone33 | spirit is pretty worthless if you spam flash |
| 09:24.15 | Diao | spirit is terrible for paladins |
| 09:24.16 | MoonWolf | sioraiocht / cladhaire, stop that , its confusing. |
| 09:24.18 | neenee | okay |
| 09:24.23 | sioraiocht | MoonWolf: what is? |
| 09:24.24 | neenee | So what do Paladins do? |
| 09:24.27 | neenee | I'm used to my priest |
| 09:24.27 | Diao | stack mp5 and crit |
| 09:24.29 | theoddone33 | mp5 and spell crit |
| 09:24.32 | neenee | okay |
| 09:24.34 | Diao | crits return mana |
| 09:24.34 | MoonWolf | you two talking on each others nicks. |
| 09:24.36 | theoddone33 | and pots |
| 09:24.37 | Toadkiller | neenee: crit |
| 09:24.40 | sioraiocht | ... |
| 09:24.40 | sioraiocht | we're not |
| 09:24.40 | MoonWolf | soon i won't be able to keep you apart. |
| 09:24.42 | Diao | int is good too |
| 09:24.43 | Orionshock | who invoked Goodwins Law? |
| 09:24.43 | Ackis | is jerry kicking around here on irc? |
| 09:24.51 | theoddone33 | yes, int is also good |
| 09:24.52 | the-golem | cladhaire : i was gonna respond, but nvm |
| 09:24.53 | sioraiocht | <------ is actually sioraiocht |
| 09:24.55 | Diao | because for a properly talented paladin they gain spelldmg/heal, crit, and mana from int |
| 09:25.02 | Toadkiller | clad did & I provoked it to end this. |
| 09:25.03 | Orionshock | kebinusan: thank you - i'v got to use that more often |
| 09:25.16 | sioraiocht | The only religious discussion we should be having is about paladins, shaman, a drids |
| 09:25.20 | sioraiocht | *druids |
| 09:25.20 | sioraiocht | imo |
| 09:25.24 | Diao | what about priests O: |
| 09:25.27 | Toadkiller | Druid power! |
| 09:25.29 | MoonWolf | clearly druidism is the way forward! |
| 09:25.29 | sioraiocht | oh |
| 09:25.31 | sioraiocht | whatever |
| 09:25.42 | MoonWolf | paladins and priests both serve the light |
| 09:25.51 | Neebler | druid > shaman > priest > paladin. discuss |
| 09:26.01 | MoonWolf | shamans follow a form of elementalism combined with ancester beleifs |
| 09:26.04 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 09:26.04 | Toadkiller | patently true so no discussion needed |
| 09:26.05 | neenee | Okay |
| 09:26.07 | sioraiocht | shaman > druid > paladin > priest |
| 09:26.10 | neenee | I'll let my girlfriend know |
| 09:26.12 | kebinusan | Orionshock: its very useful |
| 09:26.21 | theoddone33 | I say druid > priest > paladin > shaman |
| 09:26.37 | theoddone33 | for healing |
| 09:26.42 | neenee | She wants to switch to Healing later on and at the moment she has a lot of healing/damage gear and some +healing stuff, and I was wondering if I should advise her to get spirit :) |
| 09:26.44 | MoonWolf | druid > shaman > the light |
| 09:26.45 | sioraiocht | harrumph, no windfury totem for you |
| 09:26.56 | theoddone33 | lightwell > * |
| 09:27.12 | theoddone33 | or maybe triage quest > * |
| 09:27.20 | Diao | lol |
| 09:27.34 | Toadkiller | ANyway, time for some The Daily Show & Californication & Weeds b4 bed. nite all &thaks for the spirited if wild & harebrained discussion! |
| 09:27.37 | Neebler | DoT specd warriors with 3/3 imp rend > Warlocks |
| 09:27.46 | theoddone33 | I kind of drool over mp5 and crit, then go for +heal, then go for int |
| 09:27.50 | theoddone33 | on my paladin |
| 09:27.53 | Toadkiller | Scryers > Aldor |
| 09:27.55 | Diao | i wish i had the rend that the guys in heroic UB have |
| 09:28.01 | Diao | "mortal rend" |
| 09:28.08 | Diao | ticks for 2k and reduces healing effects by 50% |
| 09:28.20 | Toadkiller | Hey the trash by LootReaver have some serious rend as well |
| 09:28.43 | theoddone33 | I hate anything that mortal strikes |
| 09:28.50 | Toadkiller | But SSC poison ticks > rend any day |
| 09:29.04 | Diao | lol |
| 09:29.24 | Diao | tbh it's a hard decison on a pally |
| 09:29.27 | Diao | between 81 healing and 30 int on weapon |
| 09:29.49 | theoddone33 | depends |
| 09:30.00 | Ackis | pve, 81 healing > 30 int, pvp 30 int > 81 healing |
| 09:30.06 | theoddone33 | I suck at paladin |
| 09:30.18 | theoddone33 | so what I do is copy enchants and gems from the top pve paladin on the server |
| 09:30.28 | theoddone33 | whenever possible |
| 09:30.39 | Ackis | what I want is a 20 mp5 to weapon... |
| 09:31.37 | MoonWolf | theoddone33, the i don't know what his reasoning is but i'm copying what works theory. |
| 09:31.49 | theoddone33 | kind of |
| 09:31.55 | theoddone33 | I'm not stupid so I can infer the reasoning |
| 09:32.07 | theoddone33 | I figure he knows the class better than me |
| 09:32.38 | Diao | eh |
| 09:32.47 | Diao | pve i'm still not sold on 81 healing > 30 int |
| 09:33.00 | theoddone33 | it depends how you mix holy light and flash |
| 09:33.02 | theoddone33 | I'd say |
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| 09:34.08 | Diao | 30 int is 450 mana which is 4 flashes, .5% crit which returns 60% of mana spent, 10.5 +healing |
| 09:35.18 | the-golem | 81 yealing would be ... bigger flashes? |
| 09:35.24 | Diao | yep |
| 09:35.29 | Diao | however |
| 09:35.35 | Diao | flash only gains 42% of +healing effects due to 1.5s cast |
| 09:35.45 | the-golem | eww |
| 09:35.47 | the-golem | well |
| 09:35.59 | the-golem | when you have that mace from prince ... |
| 09:36.08 | the-golem | with like 330ish healing .. |
| 09:36.16 | the-golem | id say do int ^^ |
| 09:36.19 | Diao | yea |
| 09:36.25 | MoonWolf | bleh |
| 09:36.25 | Diao | !c us Blackrock Nemmi |
| 09:36.32 | Diao | hm |
| 09:36.37 | ThraeBot | Diao: Nemmi, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (43/18/0). 9387 HP; 10743 Mana; 195 mana regen; 97 mp5; 14788 Armour; 72.600 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 113 spell crit; 188 +spell dmg; 1588 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 129 resilience;[[ TBR: 1402 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuj8f8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37xqmn ][ Updated: Tue Oct 23 05:39:57 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:36.39 | MoonWolf | nobody beats lifebloom on healing efficiency |
| 09:36.40 | Diao | there we go |
| 09:36.48 | Diao | that's my gf's pally |
| 09:36.49 | Diao | lol |
| 09:36.58 | the-golem | oh i lied |
| 09:37.02 | the-golem | 380 healing :P |
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| 09:37.19 | SunTsu | .o0( I really hate tbe prince, the infernals came down that bad yesterday, we spent hours wiping there ) |
| 09:37.27 | SunTsu | s/tbe/the/ |
| 09:37.51 | Diao | lol |
| 09:37.54 | SunTsu | purl: I already told you that you are quite smart for a bot, didn't I? |
| 09:37.55 | purl | You already told you that you are quite smart for a bot, didn't? |
| 09:38.03 | Diao | o_o |
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| 09:38.41 | Ackis | !c us gurubashi ackis |
| 09:38.41 | ThraeBot | Ackis: Ackis, Level 70 Troll Priest (23/38/0). 7881 HP; 10110 Mana; 389 mana regen; 174 mp5; 88 +spell dmg; 2018 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 583 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuo3k3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/375lrz ][ Updated: Tue Oct 23 05:41:44 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:39.12 | Ackis | muhahah 5.06% dodge |
| 09:39.15 | Diao | lots of mp5 :O |
| 09:39.16 | the-golem | MoonWolf: yeah lifebloom is pretty nice |
| 09:39.20 | Diao | but pallies don't need so much |
| 09:39.28 | Diao | especially with that mana restore meta |
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| 09:39.41 | Ackis | i'm a priest, I stack mp5/spirit |
| 09:39.48 | Ackis | pallys stack spellcrit/healing |
| 09:39.51 | grzesieq | uh |
| 09:39.55 | Ackis | druids are emo so we don't care about htem |
| 09:39.59 | grzesieq | "Creature AI has been changed to no longer prioritize attacking unfeared targets over feared targets." |
| 09:40.00 | Diao | and you are quite a bit more progressed |
| 09:40.03 | Diao | than we are :P |
| 09:40.21 | grzesieq | no need to stancedance anymore? :P |
| 09:40.23 | MoonWolf | druids are not emo |
| 09:40.28 | MoonWolf | druids stack both spi and mp5 |
| 09:40.30 | MoonWolf | and healing |
| 09:40.32 | MoonWolf | and later on int. |
| 09:40.35 | Ackis | 4/9 down in BT, 5/5 down in hyjal |
| 09:40.42 | nevcairiel | priests are just sad that all other classes out-heal them |
| 09:40.51 | Ackis | neg, druids are second most emo class out there... warlocks are #1 |
| 09:40.55 | Ackis | priests are third lol |
| 09:41.00 | Diao | btw |
| 09:41.03 | Diao | did you read about wow china? |
| 09:41.08 | Diao | i was pretty amazed |
| 09:41.20 | the-golem | grzesieq: wut? |
| 09:41.36 | MoonWolf | Ackis, we may be hippies and tree huggers |
| 09:41.38 | MoonWolf | but we are not emo |
| 09:41.44 | kebinusan | mages are #1 |
| 09:41.56 | kebinusan | warlocks are 3, and Id put rogues at 2 |
| 09:42.04 | the-golem | warlocks are emo? |
| 09:42.08 | nevcairiel | real druids are not emo, all those suckers that jumped on the "druids are cool" train back in the day are emo |
| 09:42.15 | the-golem | those OP sunnsabitches? :P |
| 09:42.18 | Diao | lol |
| 09:42.23 | MoonWolf | the-golem, the hurt themselves all the time. |
| 09:42.39 | kebinusan | I think warlocks are pretty apathetic imo, except for those fotm locks who cry about everything |
| 09:42.49 | kebinusan | you get used to being nerfed every single patch |
| 09:42.50 | the-golem | MoonWolf: SnM, not emo :P |
| 09:42.55 | Diao | man |
| 09:43.11 | the-golem | cuz |
| 09:43.16 | the-golem | they LIKE hurting themselves |
| 09:43.21 | Diao | lol |
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| 09:43.32 | the-golem | lol |
| 09:43.38 | Diao | hurt themselves to do extra damage |
| 09:43.51 | nevcairiel | but they still like it |
| 09:43.51 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 09:43.52 | the-golem | BRING ON THE PAIN! |
| 09:43.57 | Diao | oh shoot |
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| 09:44.11 | Diao | i forgot how fun it is to play regular bgs |
| 09:44.11 | the-golem | im not a real druid |
| 09:44.21 | the-golem | i have a 16 alt |
| 09:44.24 | the-golem | that i dont touch |
| 09:44.29 | the-golem | tried playing him todauy |
| 09:44.31 | the-golem | ewwwww |
| 09:44.33 | Diao | lol |
| 09:44.53 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nevcairiel |
| 09:44.54 | Diao | druids aren't as appealing to me as they were pre-bc :\ |
| 09:44.56 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 9164 HP; 9965 Mana; 453 mana regen; 215 mp5; 5.28% melee crit; 43 +spell dmg; 1712 +heal; 6.47% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 821 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqhy7q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32vjf8 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 23 05:48:25 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:44.57 | nevcairiel | ^ real druid :P |
| 09:45.06 | Diao | i had 3 60 druids prebc |
| 09:45.07 | the-golem | hehehe |
| 09:45.24 | the-golem | 2.3 is making prot pallys really nice |
| 09:45.26 | Diao | now you pick a tree and go all the way into it |
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| 09:45.27 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: what's your one balance talent? |
| 09:45.29 | the-golem | REALLY nice |
| 09:45.30 | Diao | no more hybridizing |
| 09:45.42 | Diao | probably nature's grasp |
| 09:45.52 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: yeah grasp, for my occasional pvp'ing |
| 09:46.12 | nevcairiel | plus i couldnt really think of a talent in resto to stuff it in |
| 09:46.14 | Diao | once 2.3 hits i'm thinking about leveling another druid |
| 09:46.16 | Orionshock | !c US Nagrand Atradies |
| 09:46.18 | ThraeBot | Orionshock: Atradies, Level 70 Tauren Druid (5/0/56). 7596 HP; 8285 Mana; 238 mana regen; 79 mp5; 4.00% melee crit; 1221 +heal; 3.36% dodge; 110 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 807 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp8o4j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yn9cy ][ Updated: Tue Oct 23 05:49:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:46.39 | Diao | !c us Blackrock Diaox |
| 09:46.41 | ThraeBot | Diao: Diaox, Level 70 Orc Warrior (33/25/3). 10854 HP; 8776 Armour; 1600 AP; 245.600 Melee DPS; 27.37% melee crit; 80 melee hit; 7.58% dodge; 5.00% block; 248 resilience;[[ TBR: 1475 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zq2hg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3e2pmf ][ Updated: Tue Oct 23 05:50:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:47.00 | Diao | wtb season 3 so i can get rid of my leather helm :( |
| 09:47.12 | the-golem | lol |
| 09:47.15 | Ackis | wtb tank/group to do some HH so i can get that pet =/ |
| 09:47.18 | Diao | wait nev you don't have imp tranq? |
| 09:47.18 | the-golem | Diao: on which toon? |
| 09:47.24 | Diao | on my warrior lol |
| 09:47.26 | Orionshock | how does one do a ThraeBot duel? |
| 09:47.28 | Diao | i have a leather dps helm |
| 09:47.30 | the-golem | Diao: wtf? |
| 09:47.36 | Diao | well |
| 09:47.42 | Diao | i'm the gm/guild enchanter/raid leader |
| 09:47.49 | Diao | and a cowl of defiance dropped off netherspite |
| 09:47.55 | Diao | nobody wanted it, i took it for DE |
| 09:48.01 | nevcairiel | Diao: nah, when would i use tranq .. and if i do, its mostly not a aggro issue |
| 09:48.03 | Diao | then i realized it had better dps stats than my dps helm |
| 09:48.07 | Diao | so i ended up using it |
| 09:48.08 | the-golem | lol |
| 09:48.18 | the-golem | Diao: wtb HH helm? |
| 09:48.19 | the-golem | ^^ |
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| 09:48.28 | Diao | yeah.. been farming that since the event started.. still no drop |
| 09:48.32 | the-golem | :-( |
| 09:48.36 | the-golem | i dont really care |
| 09:48.42 | the-golem | about dps |
| 09:48.44 | the-golem | if i have too |
| 09:48.45 | Diao | i don't either |
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| 09:48.49 | Diao | i only use dps helm in pvp |
| 09:48.49 | Ackis | the HH helm looks amazingly funny on a tauren |
| 09:48.51 | the-golem | i'll take the one from prince |
| 09:48.56 | Diao | cause i MT everything |
| 09:49.01 | the-golem | Diao: same |
| 09:49.25 | the-golem | well not 25mans |
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| 09:49.41 | Diao | argh |
| 09:49.46 | Diao | character selection is down for blackrock |
| 09:49.48 | Diao | i can't get in :( |
| 09:49.49 | winkiller | Ackis: amazingly stupid :( |
| 09:49.55 | Xinhuan | diao: hint: cp update |
| 09:50.06 | Diao | oh right |
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| 09:50.17 | Diao | didn't look at the time lol |
| 09:50.25 | the-golem | cp? |
| 09:50.26 | Ackis | winkiller: you have no sense of humor lol :P |
| 09:50.35 | winkiller | indeed |
| 09:50.43 | Diao | uh |
| 09:50.46 | Diao | contribution points |
| 09:50.47 | Ackis | it made me laugh for at least a minute when i saw it on the cow |
| 09:50.48 | Diao | honor |
| 09:50.48 | winkiller | but "funny" could also mean strange |
| 09:50.51 | Orionshock | IMHO the best PTR patch notes for PvP "Players will now be able to cast spells for free in the Battleground before it begins. " |
| 09:51.04 | Diao | yea |
| 09:51.04 | nevcairiel | yup, free buffing |
| 09:51.05 | Diao | and when you rez too |
| 09:51.05 | the-golem | YES |
| 09:51.08 | nevcairiel | even after being ressed |
| 09:51.08 | the-golem | thats awesome |
| 09:51.08 | Diao | for like 3 sec |
| 09:51.16 | Ackis | if only they'd remove the reagent cost =/ |
| 09:51.26 | winkiller | lotro patchnotes are written much funnier |
| 09:51.29 | the-golem | Ackis: you think they would |
| 09:51.30 | the-golem | since |
| 09:51.39 | the-golem | warlocks dont lose shards |
| 09:51.44 | Diao | yea |
| 09:51.52 | Diao | they should remove all requirements, not just mana/rage/energy |
| 09:51.54 | the-golem | which is basically a reagent |
| 09:52.20 | the-golem | patch day |
| 09:52.24 | the-golem | ive no reason to be away |
| 09:52.27 | the-golem | awake* |
| 09:55.33 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r52970 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: |
| 09:55.33 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 09:55.33 | CIA-7 | - zhCN update |
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| 09:57.35 | starlon | nah they need to go the other way around - durability loss in pvp |
| 09:57.53 | Diao | there is durability loss :( |
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| 09:57.59 | Diao | just not from death |
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| 09:58.50 | starlon | hell I pay for my epics |
| 09:58.59 | starlon | 30g here 25g there |
| 09:59.15 | Diao | lol |
| 09:59.37 | theoddone33 | scryer for mage eh? |
| 09:59.44 | theoddone33 | since they have the damage spellthread |
| 09:59.49 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r52971 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.deDE.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Splitting up the data and localization - Part 8. |
| 09:59.53 | Orionshock | starlon: more like 15kG here - 20kG there |
| 10:00.51 | [dRaCo] | theoddone33: they've got that 32 hit trinket, which (imo) is more important. you can buy the thread... |
| 10:01.10 | theoddone33 | I just turned like 33 slots of netherweave + arcane dust into 2 slots worth of imbued netherweave :( |
| 10:01.16 | Diao | scryers bloodgem? |
| 10:01.16 | theoddone33 | but got to 339 |
| 10:01.35 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 10:01.47 | many | theoddone33: quite "normal" ;-) |
| 10:01.47 | theoddone33 | 150 dmg on use |
| 10:02.03 | theoddone33 | the exalted ring seems nice too |
| 10:02.12 | Trell_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/madalche.jpg <---- this is the best they could come up with for an alchemist only item? |
| 10:02.13 | theoddone33 | but I'm only 56, I have no concept of what level 70 stats should be like |
| 10:02.18 | Diao | well |
| 10:02.20 | theoddone33 | for this class |
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| 10:02.23 | Diao | i never worried about the gear from either faction |
| 10:02.44 | Diao | shoulder enchants were all i looked at |
| 10:03.16 | theoddone33 | aldor have a good staff |
| 10:03.23 | theoddone33 | at revered |
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| 10:04.06 | Trell_ | don't HH have a better one? |
| 10:04.09 | Trell_ | at exalted? |
| 10:04.21 | Trell_ | i'm not a caster; but see everyone running round with it |
| 10:04.50 | theoddone33 | 18 dmg, 10 crit vs 15 crit, 12 dmg |
| 10:04.59 | theoddone33 | scryer seems better for a fire mage |
| 10:05.12 | theoddone33 | which is HH? |
| 10:05.20 | [dRaCo] | honor hold |
| 10:05.20 | theoddone33 | I see that and I just think headless horseman |
| 10:05.23 | theoddone33 | oh |
| 10:05.27 | [dRaCo] | imo, scryers are the caster fraction |
| 10:05.35 | [dRaCo] | the exalted ring is nice, too |
| 10:05.41 | theoddone33 | dunno about thrallmar/honor hold stuff |
| 10:05.53 | Orionshock | i wonder what "All Warmasters are linked to each other and their respective Generals and can no longer be pulled individually. " |
| 10:05.56 | Orionshock | is going to do |
| 10:06.00 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r52972 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib: Bugfix. |
| 10:06.09 | theoddone33 | prevent single pulling of vandar |
| 10:06.15 | theoddone33 | I expect that's about it |
| 10:06.23 | theoddone33 | there will only be like 2 marshals anyway, if that |
| 10:06.30 | Orionshock | .. |
| 10:06.46 | Orionshock | All Commanders and Lieutenants have left Alterac Valley in search for other battle opportunities. |
| 10:06.48 | Orionshock | wtf?? |
| 10:07.00 | theoddone33 | make it more of a race |
| 10:07.05 | Diao | yea |
| 10:07.07 | Diao | less npcs |
| 10:07.10 | theoddone33 | wsg will be the long BG now |
| 10:07.34 | theoddone33 | plus victory condition changes in AV ensure that turtles won't prolong matches |
| 10:07.40 | theoddone33 | and they say the honor is about the same with all the changes |
| 10:07.41 | kebinusan | it'd be nice if there was an anti turtle measure in wsg |
| 10:07.43 | theoddone33 | so... yeah |
| 10:08.31 | Diao | imo |
| 10:08.34 | Diao | if both sides hold the flag |
| 10:08.39 | Diao | for over 5 min |
| 10:08.42 | Diao | it should autodrop |
| 10:08.52 | Diao | to prevent turtles |
| 10:09.01 | Diao | although that could potentially extend the games even longer |
| 10:09.03 | neenee | They already show the enemy carrier on the map when there's not much activity |
| 10:09.06 | Orionshock | i like the long AV fights, 4hr AV ... those where the days |
| 10:09.16 | theoddone33 | it should spawn a control point in the center of the map |
| 10:09.16 | neenee | My first AV was a 14-hour run |
| 10:09.19 | kebinusan | I miss the 12 hour ones |
| 10:09.22 | theoddone33 | and then do stand around pvp for the cap there |
| 10:09.36 | theoddone33 | usually everyone's fighting in the middle instead of retrieving the flag anyway |
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| 10:10.08 | theoddone33 | I'll miss the epic battles with elemental summons |
| 10:10.16 | Trell_ | is the melee change right? reduction to 3yards? |
| 10:10.21 | kebinusan | give the flag a -10% healing debuff that stacks every minute the flag isnt in its proper stand |
| 10:10.30 | theoddone33 | ooh that's good |
| 10:10.34 | theoddone33 | they're nerfing flag running anyway |
| 10:10.41 | theoddone33 | rogues = even worse carriers now |
| 10:10.43 | Orionshock | im gona shoot the author of automation... |
| 10:11.09 | theoddone33 | mages too |
| 10:11.14 | Diao | lol |
| 10:11.16 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r52973 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: pass worldframe mousedown arguments |
| 10:11.21 | theoddone33 | although iceblocking wit h the flag wasn't as popular |
| 10:11.31 | kebinusan | go go 15% run speed increase |
| 10:11.39 | theoddone33 | ooh, yeah |
| 10:11.43 | Diao | what's wrong with automaton? |
| 10:11.54 | Trell_ | im gonna go log on the ptr and play around with a sub spec |
| 10:12.00 | Trell_ | its starting to look quite cool again |
| 10:12.33 | Orionshock | is there a "IsPlayerAFK()" |
| 10:13.03 | theoddone33 | weapon swapping for shadowstep sub always seemed like too much work to deal with |
| 10:13.24 | Diao | i think |
| 10:13.29 | Diao | UnitIsAFK |
| 10:13.46 | Diao | only works for your own group/target? |
| 10:14.02 | Orionshock | note to Automation Author - check afk before joining BG |
| 10:14.35 | Trell_ | !p Wall of the Dead |
| 10:14.40 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Name: Wall of the Dead; Vendor: 2g 32s 74c; Deposit (24h): 1g 39s 64c; Auction (All): 120g; Disenchant (All): 14g 68s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 10:15.19 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r52974 10CastYeller/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:15.19 | CIA-7 | CastYeller: |
| 10:15.19 | CIA-7 | - extracted 1 localizable string to enUS |
| 10:15.19 | CIA-7 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 10:16.31 | Orionshock | Diao: Friendly |
| 10:16.56 | Diao | right |
| 10:17.07 | Orionshock | so im there waiting for a BG Que.. reading PTR notes.. |
| 10:17.13 | Gngsk | Orionshock, line 119 queue.lua add if not UnitIsAFK("player") then bgstuff end |
| 10:17.24 | Orionshock | BG pops, i zone.. i zone again.. and im a deserter |
| 10:17.25 | Diao | hm |
| 10:17.26 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 10:17.33 | Diao | sinklib has an error after latest update |
| 10:17.48 | Gngsk | you could also use the delay |
| 10:17.49 | Diao | but i guess i didn't update after the bugfix |
| 10:18.13 | Orionshock | Gngsk: i found that pritty fast.. added in a check... |
| 10:18.28 | Gngsk | commit it up! |
| 10:18.46 | Orionshock | ... |
| 10:19.12 | Diao | btw |
| 10:19.16 | Orionshock | things like that need community feed back... xpecialy b/c the author is MIA |
| 10:19.27 | Diao | anyone have a screenshot of elfreloaded? |
| 10:19.48 | Diao | i've been debating trying it but i'd like to see what it looks like :P |
| 10:19.55 | Orionshock | Diao: think origional loot frammes, but solid colored and wider with number of need/greed/pass in them |
| 10:20.08 | Diao | mm |
| 10:20.11 | Diao | well i use skinner anyway |
| 10:20.17 | Diao | and xloot |
| 10:20.24 | Orionshock | background frame is the same color as the loot quality |
| 10:20.58 | Orionshock | XLoot_GroupLoot is such CRAP-TASTICK! |
| 10:21.03 | Orionshock | get rid of it |
| 10:21.05 | the-golem | zomg |
| 10:21.08 | Diao | i don't use the grouploot |
| 10:21.11 | Orionshock | use ElfReloaded |
| 10:21.15 | Diao | only xloot and xloot_master |
| 10:21.23 | the-golem | aimed shot is now like mortal strike |
| 10:21.27 | Diao | didn't like how the grouploot looked |
| 10:21.28 | the-golem | 50% healing |
| 10:21.38 | Diao | yea |
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| 10:23.10 | Towbar | Hi folks |
| 10:23.24 | Orionshock | vhaarr: ping |
| 10:24.27 | Diao | btw |
| 10:24.34 | Diao | does ElfReloaded get skinned by skinner? |
| 10:24.39 | Diao | or have a similar look? |
| 10:24.42 | Orionshock | no |
| 10:24.45 | Orionshock | nothing to skin |
| 10:24.55 | Orionshock | the background frame shows the color of the quality of loot |
| 10:25.02 | Orionshock | so on epics the background frame is purple |
| 10:25.06 | Diao | oh |
| 10:25.11 | Diao | i see |
| 10:25.24 | Orionshock | no more .. "oops" clicks |
| 10:25.58 | Trell_ | Xloot does that too >_< |
| 10:26.07 | Diao | well |
| 10:26.08 | Diao | yeah it does |
| 10:26.12 | Diao | but not on the roll frames :P |
| 10:26.16 | Trell_ | it does. |
| 10:26.18 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:26.23 | Diao | what |
| 10:26.24 | Trell_ | always has done on mine |
| 10:26.25 | Diao | mine doesn't :( |
| 10:26.31 | Trell_ | green, blue, purple |
| 10:26.31 | Diao | do you use xlootgroup? |
| 10:26.34 | Trell_ | yup |
| 10:26.39 | Trell_ | group and masterlooter |
| 10:26.41 | Diao | oh |
| 10:26.43 | Diao | that's why |
| 10:26.44 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r52975 10WoWEquip/ (4 files): |
| 10:26.44 | CIA-7 | WoWEquip: - Merge branch changes back into trunk: |
| 10:26.44 | CIA-7 | - Split data and localization into their own separate files. |
| 10:26.44 | CIA-7 | - Fix invalid link error occurring on line 3297 in hooked function DressUpItemLink(). |
| 10:26.45 | vhaarr | Orionshock: pong |
| 10:26.48 | Diao | i don't use group because i don't like the mini-look |
| 10:26.55 | Trell_ | oh. |
| 10:26.55 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r52976 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:26.55 | CIA-7 | Cartographer: |
| 10:26.55 | CIA-7 | - Notes: insert "Send to group" to enUS and zhTW |
| 10:26.55 | CIA-7 | - InstanceLoot, InstanceNotes: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:27.06 | Diao | i'll pick up ER then |
| 10:28.13 | Orionshock | vhaarr: i had a strange idea for errorMonster, there is an option to out put the errors to sink lib, but that dumps them all out; any way to modify it to where it only outputs to sink lib stuff that normally would get though and to eat the rest? |
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| 10:31.24 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:31.32 | kebinusan | vhaarr: is it possible to have closetgnome_mount check and see if you were dismounted because of zoning and switch back into your unmounted set? |
| 10:31.36 | Diao | anyone know why my questsfu isn't outputting party notifications for quest updates |
| 10:31.43 | Diao | even though i have it enabled? |
| 10:32.32 | CIA-7 | 03daviesh * r52977 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:32.32 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:32.32 | CIA-7 | - Zul'Aman now accessible via Atlas, fixed up some Atlas 1.10.3 compatibility problems. |
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| 10:34.36 | vhaarr | kebinusan: it should do that |
| 10:34.55 | kebinusan | when I zone into bgs or instances while mounted I always seem to still have my mount set equipped |
| 10:35.16 | vhaarr | kebinusan: I don't |
| 10:35.17 | kebinusan | I'll take another look at the options tho maybe I have something set wrong |
| 10:35.25 | vhaarr | kebinusan: perhaps there is a deDE problem with SE-Mount |
| 10:35.34 | vhaarr | Orionshock: explain in privmsg |
| 10:36.31 | kebinusan | there arent many instances you can fly into, I mainly notice it when flying into tk instances or accepting a bg/arena queue while mounted |
| 10:37.11 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r52978 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: |
| 10:37.11 | CIA-7 | WoWEquip: - Update commented section at top of file. |
| 10:37.11 | CIA-7 | - And actually fix what I said I would fix in the last commit. |
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| 10:37.28 | kebinusan | I'll do some more tests see if I can be more precise |
| 10:38.24 | the-golem | kebinusan: same issues zoning into HFC intances on a mount? |
| 10:38.35 | kebinusan | I dont go to HFC much |
| 10:38.42 | kebinusan | ever really heh |
| 10:38.56 | the-golem | kebinusan: me neither, but you coudl test it :P |
| 10:39.59 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r52979 10/branches/WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Delete unneeded branch. |
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| 10:46.10 | kebinusan | vhaarr: I think for battlegrounds the problem is this, If you zone in mounted and have the option set not to switch to your mount set in bg's then cg_mount never switches you back to your unmounted set |
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| 10:47.24 | Orionshock | kebinusan: it prolly never receives your dismount event. |
| 10:47.47 | kebinusan | that could be as well |
| 10:47.58 | Orionshock | if the mount module had a OnZoneChanged event it could prolly do a buff check and compensate for it |
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| 10:53.45 | CIA-7 | 03scorpio0920 * r52980 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Broggok.lua: LittleWigs: Update zhTW translation. |
| 10:56.34 | kebinusan | Yeah, I think if ClosetGnomeMountPCDB.disabled or IsControlKeyDown() or ((select(2, IsInInstance()) == "pvp" or select(2, IsInInstance()) == "arena") and not ClosetGnomeMountPCDB.enabledInBG) then return end should check be wrapped around a check to see if you just zoned into a pvp or arena instnace and switch back before following the rule |
| 10:57.14 | CIA-7 | 03celellach * r52981 10AtlasLoot/Instances/instances.en.lua: |
| 10:57.14 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:57.14 | CIA-7 | - Connected the elder in the Dire Maul Entrance map with the lunar festival loot table |
| 10:58.21 | Orionshock | kebinusan: dude, pasty that shit |
| 10:59.31 | kebinusan | basically closetgnome_mount has an option not to switch to your mount set if in an arena or BG... but if you were moutned when zoning in it doesnt first switch back to your unmounted set if the option not to switch sets in bg's is set |
| 11:02.09 | Trell_ | !p Plans: Mithril Spurs |
| 11:02.09 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Name: Plans: Mithril Spurs; Vendor: 25s; Deposit (24h): 15s; Auction (All): 12g [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 11:02.14 | CIA-7 | 03oridan * r52982 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 11:02.14 | CIA-7 | SpellReminder: |
| 11:02.14 | CIA-7 | - some minor tweaks to aura detection |
| 11:05.25 | Orionshock | NOOOOO The Chess Event chess in Karazhan now has a tap list so it can only be looted by players who were involved in the chess event. |
| 11:05.34 | fridgid|sleepz | gg |
| 11:05.47 | Corgan | Creature AI has been changed to no longer prioritize attacking unfeared targets over feared targets. |
| 11:05.47 | Corgan | lolwut |
| 11:05.58 | vhaarr | kebinusan: feel free to fix |
| 11:07.59 | evl | what's rabbits nick on irc? |
| 11:08.37 | vhaarr | < |
| 11:09.36 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if that fear change is good or bad |
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| 11:09.47 | Xinhuan | what if the MT gets feared and turns his back against the boss |
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| 11:10.03 | ramoz | its bad |
| 11:10.07 | ramoz | if he turns |
| 11:10.10 | ramoz | he gets dazed |
| 11:10.20 | ramoz | cant parry, block or dodge while feared |
| 11:10.28 | ramoz | its usually a splat |
| 11:10.37 | Xinhuan | i'm thinking this is a bad change |
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| 11:10.49 | ramoz | nah |
| 11:10.52 | kebinusan | its so ferals and paladins can tank! think of all the good |
| 11:11.10 | Corgan | it's so great... |
| 11:11.11 | kebinusan | though it really trivalizes alot of boss encounters imo |
| 11:11.13 | Corgan | make the game easier |
| 11:11.17 | ramoz | i think the tanks still have to stance dance |
| 11:11.24 | Corgan | they wont HAVE to |
| 11:11.26 | ramoz | but if he misses it, its not 100% wipe |
| 11:11.30 | kebinusan | ramoz: only if your dps cant pewpew |
| 11:11.31 | ramoz | no |
| 11:11.36 | kebinusan | err cant stop pewpew |
| 11:11.44 | Corgan | it's an added bonus to stance dance now |
| 11:11.55 | Corgan | also gg priest fear ward amirite? |
| 11:12.25 | evl | yeah |
| 11:12.27 | evl | useless now afaik? |
| 11:12.35 | evl | since boss will still attack tank |
| 11:14.16 | Xinhuan | yep but the chance of tank dying is now higher |
| 11:14.20 | ramoz | yes |
| 11:14.28 | ramoz | but a warrior tank will prolly go splat |
| 11:14.34 | ramoz | a druid however, may not |
| 11:14.42 | Xinhuan | and i'm sure half the fears will make the warrior turn his back to the boss |
| 11:14.42 | Grum | paladin should splat as well |
| 11:15.01 | ramoz | also |
| 11:15.32 | ramoz | tank taking fear on archimonde is pretty useless cause of the doomfires |
| 11:15.35 | ramoz | btw |
| 11:15.46 | ramoz | does any other tank than archi fear in TBC? |
| 11:15.50 | ramoz | i cant remember |
| 11:15.51 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:15.54 | Xinhuan | Nightbane |
| 11:15.56 | ramoz | oh, nightbane |
| 11:16.00 | Xinhuan | and Kael 2nd avisor |
| 11:16.03 | Xinhuan | advisor |
| 11:16.08 | ramoz | oh yes, that's true |
| 11:16.08 | Xinhuan | Sanguinar |
| 11:16.13 | ramoz | we use undead tank for him |
| 11:16.19 | ramoz | or tremor |
| 11:16.26 | Xinhuan | and Striders on Vashj fear too except you don't tank those |
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| 11:17.49 | fridgid | WAU is open source no? |
| 11:17.55 | Xinhuan | it was. |
| 11:17.59 | Xinhuan | now its not |
| 11:18.06 | fridgid | how is it still on sf? |
| 11:18.16 | Xinhuan | that copy on sf is about 5 months old |
| 11:18.19 | Xinhuan | or longer even |
| 11:18.30 | fridgid | oh |
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| 11:18.48 | Xinhuan | it is no longer open source because people took the sourcecode and removed the advertisements |
| 11:19.24 | fridgid | are previous versions of the souce still available legally? |
| 11:19.34 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:19.53 | Xinhuan | however, i am uncertain as to the copyright status |
| 11:20.02 | fridgid | as in if i have a svn, am i able to download and modify the code to use my svn |
| 11:20.06 | fridgid | hmm ok |
| 11:21.27 | Xinhuan | well the latest version of WAU is able to support |
| 11:21.33 | Xinhuan | connecting to any svn i believe? |
| 11:21.41 | Xinhuan | so you won't even need to do that |
| 11:23.34 | fridgid | orly? |
| 11:23.39 | fridgid | i believe i have the latest |
| 11:23.51 | fridgid | maybe not |
| 11:23.58 | fridgid | latest is selfupdating right? |
| 11:24.06 | Grum | yeah |
| 11:24.35 | fridgid | ok better question, is there a place with real documentation on it? |
| 11:24.42 | fridgid | the wiki wasn't very good last i checked |
| 11:24.51 | fridgid | the woace forums are scary cluttered |
| 11:25.29 | Xinhuan | nope, no documentation |
| 11:25.34 | Grum | what kind of documentation are you looking for? |
| 11:25.57 | Xinhuan | the author of WAU is very unrelunctant to add documentation, citing that "the forums" is the place to look for STICKIES, FAQ and HELP. |
| 11:26.02 | fridgid | <fridgid> as in if i have a svn, am i able to download and modify the code to use my svn; <Xinhuan> well the latest version of WAU is able to support |
| 11:26.19 | Grum | mm |
| 11:26.32 | fridgid | grum: i just want to be able to use it as a custom updater |
| 11:26.39 | fridgid | idc if the ads stay |
| 11:26.43 | Xinhuan | and also citing that there is a direct link from WAU in one of the menus to the forums |
| 11:27.04 | fridgid | no i found the download thats not the problem |
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| 11:27.06 | Xinhuan | in fact he is in the channel right now |
| 11:27.13 | fridgid | where cna i change repositories |
| 11:27.16 | Fin | the users of WAU are very reluctant to contribute documentation themselves |
| 11:27.20 | fridgid | i know who the authors are |
| 11:27.32 | Xinhuan | except that he's been afk the last 79 hours |
| 11:27.38 | Fin | they're also whiny bastards |
| 11:27.43 | fridgid | i remember i previous versions you could type in a link |
| 11:27.49 | Fin | all of them! |
| 11:27.55 | Fin | I've met them individually |
| 11:27.57 | fridgid | lol |
| 11:28.01 | Grum | Fin: LIES! |
| 11:28.13 | Grum | did you see the one with the big cock as well? |
| 11:28.26 | Fin | oh god yeah, it was huge eh |
| 11:28.36 | Xinhuan | well, i still use a very old copy of WAU |
| 11:28.44 | Xinhuan | that still comes in a self-contained .exe file |
| 11:28.47 | Fin | still, whiney with a huge cock is still whiney |
| 11:28.54 | Xinhuan | because that is extremely portable as a .exe |
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| 11:29.11 | Fin | it doesn't complain about there being an updated version anymore, also |
| 11:29.12 | fLUx_ | hey |
| 11:29.19 | fridgid | lol |
| 11:29.27 | Xinhuan | don't need to download, install, etc |
| 11:29.45 | Grum | you dont need to install the current one either |
| 11:29.51 | Grum | but it leaves temp-files behind |
| 11:30.14 | Xinhuan | i just like the exe better, since all the preferences and settings are stored in a file next to the .exe |
| 11:31.52 | Xinhuan | i won't have to go look in the control panel or some obscure folder in order to delete wau2 :) |
| 11:32.10 | Grum | i think it still stores it in an ini |
| 11:32.13 | Grum | or i hope so :D |
| 11:32.29 | fLUx_ | can somebody point me in the direction of general functions......i.e. how to wait 2 secs |
| 11:32.48 | Grum | you want to stall the whole wow-client for 2 seconds? ;D |
| 11:32.53 | Xinhuan | there are no wow functions that lets you "wait X seconds" |
| 11:32.54 | Grum | but any Timer lib will do |
| 11:32.54 | JoshBorke | there is no sleep function |
| 11:32.58 | Grum | AceTimer |
| 11:33.04 | Grum | (or AceSchedule .. dunno tbh) |
| 11:33.11 | Grum | but you can tell it to call a function after 2 seconds |
| 11:33.19 | Xinhuan | but you can use an OnUpdate event handler to poll continually until 2 seconds is up, then call your function |
| 11:33.23 | Ozguli | hmm... is there some addon that lets me select some addons to load and then /reload or stuff, without needing to log out? |
| 11:33.26 | Xinhuan | (in fact its the only way) |
| 11:33.47 | fLUx_ | basically, I wanna say something each time I enter a new zone - but 2 seconds after if enters |
| 11:33.48 | Trell_ | Ozguli: MCP |
| 11:33.54 | Trell_ | althought it only works with some addons. |
| 11:34.26 | Xinhuan | then what you want to do is to frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", somefunction) |
| 11:34.38 | Xinhuan | and somefunction() will check whether 2 seconds is up |
| 11:35.00 | Xinhuan | when it is, call your other function to do whatever you want to do, then SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) |
| 11:35.00 | Trell_ | Ozguli: FuBar_MCPFu |
| 11:39.45 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: why use OnUpdate? |
| 11:39.51 | Orionshock | event handler too much? |
| 11:39.56 | Xinhuan | because there's no other way Orionshock |
| 11:40.17 | Xinhuan | if you use AceEvent or AceTimer, it does the exact same thing - just abstracted/hidden from you. |
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| 11:41.24 | JoshBorke | there are no events that delay by 2 seconds |
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| 11:42.38 | Orionshock | ... right... |
| 11:42.41 | Orionshock | i know |
| 11:42.58 | Orionshock | >basically, I wanna say something each time I enter a new zone - but 2 seconds after if enters |
| 11:43.21 | Orionshock | so set an onEvent for ZoneChanged then do the 2 second timer |
| 11:43.42 | Xinhuan | correct. but the 2 sec timer can only be done by an OnUpdate. |
| 11:43.42 | Orionshock | then :Hide() or nil it after your done |
| 11:44.01 | Xinhuan | sadly lua doesn't support preemptive threading |
| 11:44.24 | Orionshock | but using OnUpdate is spammy, id' have to be used in conjunction with Zone_Changed in order to get the desired effect |
| 11:44.40 | Xinhuan | but that's exactly what i said |
| 11:44.43 | Fin | how else can you do it? |
| 11:44.52 | Orionshock | nmd then :P |
| 11:44.58 | Xinhuan | [10/23 19:34:15] <Xinhuan> then what you want to do is to frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", somefunction) |
| 11:45.34 | Lukian | Could someone tell me WTF the "rawrkitty" addon does? |
| 11:45.45 | [Ammo] | check the source |
| 11:45.48 | [Ammo] | download it, try it |
| 11:45.48 | Fin | nope |
| 11:45.59 | Xinhuan | i'll download it and look lol |
| 11:46.02 | Lukian | [Ammo], done the latter, I still have no idea. |
| 11:46.03 | Fin | +Lukian: |
| 11:46.14 | [Ammo] | it even has a readme.txt! |
| 11:46.29 | Lukian | lol |
| 11:46.34 | Lukian | yeah just found that |
| 11:46.50 | Orionshock | fish.wowace.com/WoWAce/trunk/Rawrkitty |
| 11:47.10 | Xinhuan | lets see |
| 11:47.15 | Xinhuan | Rawrkitty does a |
| 11:47.15 | Xinhuan | self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_CREATURE_DAMAGE") |
| 11:47.18 | Xinhuan | onEnable |
| 11:47.31 | Xinhuan | in the function for that event |
| 11:47.38 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: it has a readme.txt |
| 11:47.43 | Orionshock | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/Rawrkitty?cs=51312 |
| 11:47.50 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: which leads me to believe it does playsoundfile() upon pounce and charge |
| 11:47.53 | Xinhuan | he checks whether the ability use is Pounce/FeralCharge, then plays a Meow/Rocket |
| 11:48.25 | Fin | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Rawrkitty/readme.txt |
| 11:48.39 | Xinhuan | i've half temped to extract that wav and mp3 file out just to hear what it sounds like |
| 11:48.42 | Grum | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~raw,r=51319/WowAce/trunk/Rawrkitty/rawr1.wav <-- lol :D |
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| 11:49.01 | Lukian | rawr2.mp3 makes no sense for the abilities, the other file, I dont' get playback from |
| 11:49.14 | Fin | http://fin.instinct.org/aceupdates/since/lastmonth/Rawrkitty |
| 11:49.35 | Fin | you can download them straight from svn.wowace.com |
| 11:50.09 | Lukian | I'm going to log my druid again and go kill something just to hear them "in context" |
| 11:50.23 | Fin | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/6135343fecc78f6b/14018da56472e7c4?lnk=gst&q=rawrkitty+readme#14018da56472e7c4 |
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| 11:50.41 | Orionshock | ok that 2nd sound makes no sense at all |
| 11:51.43 | Grum | that rawr1.wav is earhurting :D |
| 11:52.27 | Grum | guildbanks will be totally cool btw :) |
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| 11:52.46 | Orionshock | IMHO they should let 3pa Mods control the banks |
| 11:52.49 | Grum | cant wait to make some alts with a bank |
| 11:52.54 | Orionshock | not like it would take much |
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| 11:54.36 | Grum | only 111g for 294 bankslots is totally imba :) |
| 11:54.44 | Orionshock | pass the game a table where it has the needed methods defined by blizzard, and they return specific values. - when the addon registeres for control the game does some test sequences and if they fail then the registration dosn't go though. |
| 11:54.45 | Grum | and you can share it between accounts |
| 11:54.58 | Xinhuan | i actually disagree that GuildBanks are cool |
| 11:55.07 | Grum | why? |
| 11:55.13 | Xinhuan | they are certainly cool as "personal alt banking" |
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| 11:55.23 | Xinhuan | but in its current state, it isn't usable by serious guilds |
| 11:55.28 | Grum | yeah they arent *that* useful for real banks |
| 11:55.30 | Xinhuan | serious raiding ones that is |
| 11:55.33 | Grum | yup |
| 11:55.43 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: why not? |
| 11:55.47 | Grum | too expensive |
| 11:55.51 | Xinhuan | the features are inadequate |
| 11:55.54 | Xinhuan | it isn't the cost |
| 11:55.55 | Grum | 16111g for 6 slots .. meh :) |
| 11:56.04 | Xinhuan | it is completely inadequate and not foolproof |
| 11:56.08 | Xinhuan | and exploitable |
| 11:56.13 | Grum | no timestamps in logs sucks |
| 11:56.21 | Grum | only 50 logitems .. sucks |
| 11:56.21 | Xinhuan | want me to explain? |
| 11:56.25 | Grum | yeah please |
| 11:56.27 | Orionshock | IMHO serious guilds won't use them w/r to the withdrawl limit |
| 11:56.39 | Grum | you can exploit by just adding and deleteing items and pushing your 'take' from the log |
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| 11:56.43 | Orionshock | they'll treat them like they always have, send requests to the forum or GBank alt |
| 11:56.47 | Fin | someone got a URL for more info about guild banks? |
| 11:56.51 | Xinhuan | 1. you cannot let guild members "repair from guild bank" without giving them the "withdrawal rights" |
| 11:56.58 | Grum | lol |
| 11:57.01 | Xinhuan | so they can always withdraw. |
| 11:57.02 | Orionshock | but otherwise you'll only be able to contribute to ti not take out |
| 11:57.16 | Grum | Xinhuan: but they can withdraw from 1 bankslot right? |
| 11:57.19 | Xinhuan | 2. letting them deposit includes the right to view |
| 11:57.22 | Grum | so that is a waste of a slot .. |
| 11:57.31 | Xinhuan | they can withdraw whatever you set the gold/day limit as |
| 11:57.43 | Grum | would be could if you could have a 'mail to guildbank' system |
| 11:57.43 | Xinhuan | either in the form of repairs or a direct withdrawal |
| 11:57.50 | Xinhuan | if you set the limit to say 20g a day |
| 11:57.53 | Fin | no? fine |
| 11:57.58 | Xinhuan | then all your members can take 20g a day from it |
| 11:58.01 | Xinhuan | for taht rank |
| 11:58.02 | Fin | useless, you lot |
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| 11:58.13 | Xinhuan | if you try to visit the repair vendor and it says your repair cost is 30g |
| 11:58.17 | Xinhuan | and the withdraw limit is 20g |
| 11:58.23 | Grum | Fin: www.worldofraids.com |
| 11:58.25 | Xinhuan | then you click "repair from guild funds", nothing happens. |
| 11:58.29 | Grum | lol |
| 11:58.30 | Xinhuan | not even an error message |
| 11:58.33 | Grum | it doesnt repair you for 20g? |
| 11:58.33 | Xinhuan | nothing gets repaired. |
| 11:58.37 | Grum | and use 10g ? |
| 11:58.40 | Xinhuan | nope. |
| 11:58.43 | Grum | that is stupid for anything >t4 gear |
| 11:58.45 | Xinhuan | i told you, its inadequate |
| 11:58.47 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: yeah I noticed that too |
| 11:58.52 | Grum | as full repairs are > 20g |
| 11:59.01 | Xinhuan | next, the Log only records the last 50 global events |
| 11:59.06 | Grum | global even? |
| 11:59.07 | Xinhuan | this means if you have 3 tabs |
| 11:59.15 | Xinhuan | it records the last 50 things for all 3 tabs |
| 11:59.17 | Xinhuan | not 50 each |
| 11:59.19 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: the logs looked to be per tab |
| 11:59.20 | Grum | LOL |
| 11:59.21 | kebinusan | oh hm |
| 11:59.22 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: first example flawed, what GuildBank pays for repairs now? |
| 11:59.28 | Xinhuan | mine does. |
| 11:59.32 | kebinusan | the guild bank logs arent timestamped either |
| 11:59.36 | Xinhuan | i pay for TANK repairs |
| 11:59.40 | Orionshock | yours is dumb then :P |
| 11:59.46 | Grum | lol |
| 11:59.48 | Xinhuan | void crystals easily cover it |
| 11:59.49 | Grum | xin is the gm |
| 11:59.59 | Xinhuan | as does all the silly ssc patterns |
| 12:00.01 | Orionshock | pb? |
| 12:00.02 | Xinhuan | that sell on AH |
| 12:00.08 | Xinhuan | so anyway, as i was saying |
| 12:00.14 | Xinhuan | the log records the last 50 events |
| 12:00.15 | kebinusan | I wish the repair UI actually told you the guild bank has xxx funds would you like to use for repairs, that way people could make an informed decision |
| 12:00.23 | Xinhuan | so, a member can "donate 1 copper" to the bank 50 times |
| 12:00.27 | Xinhuan | and that completely wipes the log. |
| 12:00.28 | Grum | but if someone 'steals' something he can just add a copper |
| 12:00.30 | Grum | yup |
| 12:00.33 | Grum | so that is retarded |
| 12:00.45 | kebinusan | My other favorite thing is setting permissions is done per tab per rank and you have to reopen guild controle ach time |
| 12:01.08 | kebinusan | you cant interact with the guild bank like your own bank atm, so right clicking an item doent move it form the guild vault to your own you have to drag everything |
| 12:01.11 | Xinhuan | now a member that has "deposit rights" can also rearrange all the items in that tab |
| 12:01.18 | Grum | i think it would also be nice to give 'Guildmaster rights' to someone other than the GM itself |
| 12:01.23 | Fin | Grum: thanks! |
| 12:01.52 | Xinhuan | rearranging items means you stack them up and "withdraw" a full stack of "flash of the titans" |
| 12:01.53 | kebinusan | Also, say you have 200 ilidiari marks in the bank, you have to break them into the size stack you want to count as an item, otherwise someone can just take the whole stack |
| 12:01.58 | Orionshock | tbh, all these extra things you can do w/ the guild bank are pointless |
| 12:01.59 | Xinhuan | instead of say limiting a member to 1 each |
| 12:02.09 | Xinhuan | they could withdraw 5 each |
| 12:02.10 | Orionshock | deposit & view only for anyone that dosn't have full access |
| 12:02.13 | Orionshock | end of story |
| 12:02.13 | Xinhuan | because of stacking |
| 12:02.16 | Grum | Xinhuan: man lol |
| 12:02.22 | Grum | its seriously retardedly setup then |
| 12:02.23 | Xinhuan | because it goes by stacking |
| 12:02.25 | Xinhuan | slot |
| 12:02.32 | Grum | and it takes craploads of trust from the members still |
| 12:02.43 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: yeah I really wish you could set item permissions as well |
| 12:02.50 | Grum | you cant shift-click-seperate-stack-retrieve from it? |
| 12:03.19 | Xinhuan | you can grum |
| 12:03.19 | Xinhuan | kebin, the right click not moving stuff between gbank/inventory is intentional |
| 12:03.19 | Xinhuan | otherwise it generates log entries |
| 12:03.51 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: yeah it just means a bit of annoying work transfering my current bank alt contents to the guild bank |
| 12:03.56 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: are you on the pvp or pve PTR server? |
| 12:04.17 | Xinhuan | pvp |
| 12:04.43 | Xinhuan | i can log on and ginvite you if you want heh |
| 12:04.48 | kebinusan | permissions should be managed from the guild bank interface imo, the guild control ui is too clunky |
| 12:04.50 | Orionshock | h/a? |
| 12:04.55 | Xinhuan | a |
| 12:05.02 | Orionshock | ..!.. |
| 12:05.03 | kebinusan | its a nightmare to track per tab per rank |
| 12:05.05 | Orionshock | alliance suck |
| 12:05.12 | Xinhuan | you can use a lvl 1 |
| 12:05.16 | Xinhuan | Tekkub did that |
| 12:05.19 | Orionshock | i need the patch first |
| 12:05.45 | Korben | hey peeps |
| 12:05.53 | Korben | anyone could tell me pros and cons with chartographer |
| 12:05.53 | Korben | vs Gatherer ? |
| 12:05.57 | Xinhuan | there's more... |
| 12:06.03 | Xinhuan | the "gold/day" is really in copper at the moment |
| 12:06.09 | Xinhuan | so to set a limit of 10 gold |
| 12:06.13 | Xinhuan | you have to type 100000 |
| 12:06.20 | Orionshock | as for the GBank im still sticking with my origional idea that for estabished guilds it will not change; Everyone will get View and Deposit rights, and only GM & Council will get full access to the GBank |
| 12:06.35 | kebinusan | hm didnt know that, it sure explains alot |
| 12:06.58 | Orionshock | it's a) least ammount of configureation and headache to deal with |
| 12:07.14 | Xinhuan | i believe deposit rights gives them withdrawal rights. setting a limit of 0 is unlimited? |
| 12:07.15 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: Id like to see you be able to set withdrawl limits per week with the raid reset personally |
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| 12:07.51 | Grum | Korben: Gatherer < Cartographer ;D |
| 12:07.57 | Grum | you dont have Cartographer_Routes for Gatherer ;D |
| 12:08.09 | JoshBorke | speaking of which, i heard it works with rock now |
| 12:08.26 | Grum | Gatherer? |
| 12:08.29 | Orionshock | no deposit & withdrawl should NEVER be tied |
| 12:08.32 | JoshBorke | routes ;-) |
| 12:08.58 | Orionshock | ffs, you can set gPermission to permote but not have the ablity to demote, GG Blizz |
| 12:09.07 | Grum | routes was created to work only on rock .. well .. atm |
| 12:09.15 | kebinusan | I want a guild tax option! |
| 12:09.34 | kebinusan | 4% of every gray item you sell |
| 12:09.45 | Xinhuan | given blizzard's current ability |
| 12:09.45 | Xinhuan | i think they are lol |
| 12:09.45 | Xinhuan | deposit gives them the ability to rearrange everything in that tab already |
| 12:09.45 | Xinhuan | plus kebin mentioned it earlier, givign permissions per rank goes by per tab, its annoying |
| 12:09.55 | Xinhuan | so 9 ranks x 6 tabs = 54 "Oks" and "ranks" to click through |
| 12:10.13 | Korben | whats that ? |
| 12:10.14 | Korben | well i kind of have huge DB for gatherer now |
| 12:10.14 | Korben | dont want to start over .:P |
| 12:10.41 | Orionshock | Korben: Cart + Cart_<Profession> + Cart_Data |
| 12:10.43 | kebinusan | Korben: theres an import thing for carto, never used it myself though but I imagine theres a readme |
| 12:10.45 | Azurewrath | Xinhuan: and? You set that like one time and it's done.. |
| 12:10.55 | Orionshock | Cart_Data has a weakly? scrape of wowhead |
| 12:10.59 | Korben | whats routes ? |
| 12:11.17 | JoshBorke | Grum: so you've changed your mind from before? |
| 12:11.22 | Xinhuan | its still annoying and clunky, they could have just made the dialog box larger |
| 12:11.25 | JoshBorke | Grum: you said you were going to work on making it Ace compatible |
| 12:11.28 | Xinhuan | and showed permissions for all 6 tabs |
| 12:11.29 | Xinhuan | instead of having "6 tabs" |
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| 12:12.10 | Xinhuan | their entire guild control interface isn't ideal either, you can't insert a guildrank |
| 12:12.17 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: It needs work but it beats logging on several bank alts |
| 12:12.29 | Korben | hmm i might check it out |
| 12:12.29 | Korben | im just so use to gathere |
| 12:12.29 | Korben | have used it sooooo long :P |
| 12:12.35 | Xinhuan | you can only add a rank at the bottom |
| 12:12.35 | Xinhuan | then rename every rank one by one downwards, then do a mass demote |
| 12:12.41 | Xinhuan | and reconfigure guildranks |
| 12:13.53 | Xinhuan | blizzard needs better UI designers |
| 12:14.23 | kebinusan | yeah |
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| 12:15.25 | Grum | seriously, a guildname@bank 'email' adress in wow would be completely awesome |
| 12:15.47 | Orionshock | ptr up atm? |
| 12:17.12 | Xinhuan | assumably |
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| 12:17.36 | MrAvaren | Good afternoon |
| 12:17.39 | Orionshock | i hate vista |
| 12:17.50 | CIA-7 | 03chuanhsing * r52983 10BigWigs/ (25 files in 6 dirs): BigWigs: zhTW update |
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| 12:20.35 | MrAvaren | I'm having a bit of trouble with my first aced addon - http://ace.pastey.net/75678 - the comm library can't seem to hear the hidden whisper from another player, can anyone spot what I've done wrong? |
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| 12:21.57 | Orionshock | :( |
| 12:22.13 | Orionshock | i keep getting dissconnected when trying to zone into the world |
| 12:23.39 | Trell_ | any idea why on my 'professions' button in autobar, my first aid keeps being greyed out and unclickable? |
| 12:24.05 | Orionshock | anyone know what the current PTR patch is at? |
| 12:24.58 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: do u know what the ptr version is at ? |
| 12:25.11 | Xinhuan | 7441 |
| 12:25.18 | Xinhuan | use the launcher to update. |
| 12:25.31 | Xinhuan | if you run wowtest.exe directly, it won't update |
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| 12:25.44 | Xinhuan | (don't ask me why) |
| 12:25.55 | MrAvaren | ok - no one has any idea what I've broken? |
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| 12:27.05 | Orionshock | i think it's OnCommsRecieve not ReceiveMessage |
| 12:27.32 | MrAvaren | I shall give it a try - thank you |
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| 12:34.10 | fridgid | * There is now a Mortal Strike effect (Healing done on the target reduced by 50%, Duration 10 seconds) on Aimed Shot. This is a physical effect. |
| 12:34.11 | fridgid | * The min range to shot has been reduced from 8 yards to 4 yards. The "dead zone" is now pretty much removed. |
| 12:34.12 | fridgid | wtf. |
| 12:35.32 | Trell_ | add that to the dispell effect, and I think hunters are quite happy with 2.3 :P |
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| 12:37.17 | JoshBorke | they added it to aimed shot? |
| 12:37.20 | JoshBorke | lovely... |
| 12:37.23 | Orionshock | well this is fucked up, i can't get on to the PTR-PvE server |
| 12:37.34 | Xinhuan | i'm on ptr pvp |
| 12:37.42 | Orionshock | *pvp |
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| 12:38.46 | Orionshock | i put in my PW, select noob lvl 1, enter world ... load ... DISCONNECTED BITCH |
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| 12:39.28 | Xinhuan | maybe its because its a tuesday night |
| 12:39.33 | Orionshock | i log in to the pve realm and the game closes out |
| 12:39.35 | Orionshock | ..... |
| 12:39.46 | Orionshock | F this im reinstalling wow towmmarow |
| 12:39.55 | Xinhuan | are you on the correct version? |
| 12:39.56 | Orionshock | i never installed it properly on vista anyways |
| 12:39.56 | evl | omg:( |
| 12:39.58 | evl | Oink dead |
| 12:40.00 | evl | noooooes |
| 12:40.01 | Xinhuan | 7441 |
| 12:40.03 | evl | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/7057812.stm |
| 12:40.08 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: ya it's the right version |
| 12:40.17 | Xinhuan | wow doesn't need installing |
| 12:40.34 | Xinhuan | doesn't use the registry in any way other than writing a "installation path" there |
| 12:40.38 | Orionshock | something tells me that the vista permissions are all fubared |
| 12:40.49 | Xinhuan | for patchers to be able to find the whole folder if the patcher isn't in the wow.exe folder |
| 12:40.54 | Xinhuan | wow* folder |
| 12:41.10 | Xinhuan | did you put it in Program Files? |
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| 12:41.47 | Xinhuan | like c:\program files\world of warcraft |
| 12:42.32 | Xinhuan | if you did, move it out |
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| 12:42.59 | Orionshock | why? |
| 12:43.11 | Xinhuan | vista has some silly protection on every subfolder of program files, that prevents applicatiosn from modifying anything in it |
| 12:43.32 | Xinhuan | unless you run the application with admin rights |
| 12:43.34 | Orionshock | c:\ work? |
| 12:43.50 | Xinhuan | well wowtest is installed inside wow folder's |
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| 12:43.56 | Xinhuan | and so are all the savedvars and other stuff |
| 12:43.58 | MrAvaren | is it known if one addon listens to the comm channel for a specific prefix, no other addon can listen for that same message? |
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| 12:44.22 | Xinhuan | its best not to install wow in program files |
| 12:44.37 | Xinhuan | or you get a lot of patching, installing and updating problems |
| 12:44.47 | JoshBorke | MrAvaren: what do you mean? |
| 12:44.55 | Orionshock | i think the permissions it'self is phooked |
| 12:44.57 | JoshBorke | MrAvaren: any addon that registers for the CHAT_MSG_ADDON event can listen in |
| 12:45.01 | Xinhuan | just throw it anywhere else like c:\games\world of warcraft |
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| 12:45.06 | Xinhuan | or a different drive |
| 12:45.07 | MrAvaren | http://ace.pastey.net/75695 |
| 12:45.32 | JoshBorke | for AceComm, you might have to have unique prefixes |
| 12:45.39 | MrAvaren | Thats the small addon m using -trying to listen out for cartogropher traffic, but the oncommreceive isnt being fired |
| 12:45.47 | MrAvaren | hmm ok then |
| 12:46.02 | MrAvaren | thank you |
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| 12:47.16 | Orionshock | .... anyone know where i can download the current wow client? |
| 12:47.23 | Orionshock | i really don't want to dig up my CD"s |
| 12:47.38 | Xinhuan | just move/copy the entire wow folder out |
| 12:47.42 | Xinhuan | and reinstall PTR |
| 12:47.43 | MrAvaren | I feel so stupid >.< |
| 12:47.56 | MrAvaren | I had CPG instead of CGP for the prefix |
| 12:47.57 | Xinhuan | wow doesn't require the registry to run remember? |
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| 12:48.09 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 12:48.14 | Xinhuan | so wow by itself is copyable/movable to any folder/drive/location you desire |
| 12:48.15 | cncfanatics | damn school sucks, in french lesson atm :p |
| 12:48.17 | Xinhuan | with 0 ill effects |
| 12:49.00 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: that's not the issue |
| 12:49.17 | Orionshock | .. NT File Rights |
| 12:49.20 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 12:49.31 | Orionshock | they follow the file where ever they are |
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| 12:49.48 | Provus | cnc |
| 12:49.48 | Xinhuan | hah, maybe that's why i use FAT32. |
| 12:50.00 | Xinhuan | its compatible with just about any computer |
| 12:50.02 | Orionshock | vista dosn't work with fat32 |
| 12:50.02 | Provus | Did you get my message from purl? |
| 12:50.08 | Provus | Well messages. |
| 12:50.10 | Xinhuan | other than vista |
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| 12:51.57 | cncfanatics | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/october/2.3/arena/decapitor.jpg <3 thats flexbar isn't it as actionbars ? :) |
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| 12:52.07 | CIA-7 | 03Firik * r52984 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 12:52.07 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:52.07 | CIA-7 | - added "Upset Tummy" |
| 12:52.07 | cncfanatics | Provus, I'm at school, repeat them |
| 12:52.12 | cncfanatics | I'll answer as I can |
| 12:52.18 | Stanzilla | cncfanatics: Voulez vous coucher avec moi? |
| 12:52.20 | cncfanatics | think I remember they're mainly about macro's & keybindings ? |
| 12:52.21 | Provus | Okay let me bring up the log |
| 12:52.27 | Stanzilla | sry bored^^ |
| 12:52.49 | Provus | Hey cnc, I stayed up as late as I could but unfortunately I couldn't get a hold of you, I've been playing with my new interface in AB and WSG today and I noticed some oddities with Flexbar. First of all, macros put on Flexbar don't display cooldown times, nor do they do rangechecks, which is pretty massive for me since I use more than a few. |
| 12:52.49 | cncfanatics | got dutch after this, some stupid presentation to do |
| 12:52.59 | Provus | Second, I noticed some oddities in the modifier buttons feature. Ice lance is normally T for me, and rank 1 frostbolt is ctrl-T, so I held down control and stuck rank 1 frostbolt right on there. It worked like a charm for a while, but it ended up glitching out for a reason unknown to me and acted as if I pushed a button 5 buttons to the left, which was rank 1 dampen magic. |
| 12:53.02 | CIA-7 | 03Firik * r52985 10BunchOfBars/ (Core.lua Dispel/Dispel.lua Layout.lua): |
| 12:53.02 | CIA-7 | BunchOfBars: |
| 12:53.02 | CIA-7 | - added "Upset Tummy" to be ignored (so annoying in raids) |
| 12:53.07 | cncfanatics | Provus, that'll be added in 2.3, the API I need for that gets added only then (for point one) |
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| 12:53.11 | Provus | Finally, I did some arena, but I noticed during the buffing procedure, the green highlight that comes up when I have the buff on kept disappearing. I'm planning to look into this more, I didn't really have time to research it during arena prep, but I'm guessing it involves buffing others. I really want to see the first issue fixed badly (cooldowns & rangecheck for macros), as it's a vital part of my interface. Cheers. |
| 12:53.27 | cncfanatics | about ur modifiers, thats most likely because ctrl-T is taken by something else in the keybindings frame |
| 12:53.27 | Provus | There's the three messages I sent. |
| 12:53.34 | Provus | Nope, I checked. |
| 12:53.44 | cncfanatics | well, I can't find any glitches in it |
| 12:54.02 | cncfanatics | and about highlights, it highlights blue if a buff is on ur target, it highlights green if its on urself |
| 12:54.07 | cncfanatics | if its on both, it'll highlight blue |
| 12:54.14 | Provus | I didn't see any highlights. |
| 12:54.20 | cncfanatics | what buff ? |
| 12:54.23 | Orionshock | well atleast the bright side is that i have WoW, and TBC on my NFS drive and it installs rather quickly |
| 12:54.33 | Provus | Mage buffs. I did arcane intellect and dampen magic. |
| 12:54.38 | Provus | I didn't notice any blue highlight. |
| 12:54.45 | cncfanatics | shld be blue if its on ur target |
| 12:54.53 | Provus | Just telling you what I saw. |
| 12:54.58 | Provus | So about the macro thing. |
| 12:55.03 | Orionshock | ewww - patching from 1.11.0 |
| 12:55.28 | Xinhuan | haha |
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| 12:55.39 | Xinhuan | does it patch directly to 2.2? |
| 12:55.47 | Provus | The macro thing is kind of big since I have to macro more than a few of my buttons, which includes Water Elemental. |
| 12:55.51 | Orionshock | actualy i'll be patching from 2.0 |
| 12:55.54 | Provus | Is there some way to fix that? |
| 12:56.07 | Orionshock | TBC has all the patches from release to 2.0 in it |
| 12:56.25 | Xinhuan | the customer server forum has a few hundred threads about vista + wow issues lol |
| 12:56.29 | Xinhuan | service* |
| 12:56.47 | Orionshock | well i do TechSupport for a living |
| 12:56.58 | Orionshock | so solution 1 to nearly all problems |
| 12:57.04 | Orionshock | Delete and Reinstall First |
| 12:57.32 | Orionshock | then Delete and Reinstall Associated systems |
| 12:57.53 | Orionshock | then Reformat and Reinstall From Scratch everything |
| 12:58.08 | Orionshock | then begin to suspect problems with the thing that's broken |
| 12:58.51 | Xinhuan | that's what wow tech support does |
| 12:59.16 | Orionshock | ya... |
| 12:59.24 | Xinhuan | "delete your wtf, interface and cache folders" "reinstall wow" "update drivers and ...." |
| 13:00.01 | QuantumDelta | "......and reboot your pc" |
| 13:00.01 | Orionshock | personaly i think i'll make a new UI while im at it |
| 13:00.13 | Orionshock | slimmer |
| 13:00.25 | Orionshock | less UI noise |
| 13:00.33 | Orionshock | and do it in bright colors |
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| 13:00.50 | cncfanatics | back, my teacher called me there |
| 13:00.53 | cncfanatics | Provus, what were u saying ? |
| 13:01.16 | Provus | I was asking you if there's a workaround for my first problem. It's kind of big for me, since I have to use a Water Elemental + Freeze macro |
| 13:01.23 | Orionshock | too bad wow won't chain patch |
| 13:01.24 | Provus | A lot of my most essential buttons are macroed. |
| 13:01.32 | Orionshock | Provus: that's your first problem |
| 13:01.40 | erb | anyone successfully have their autobar "FadeOut"? |
| 13:01.43 | erb | mine never does |
| 13:01.51 | Provus | Uh? |
| 13:02.11 | erb | i set the option to FadeOut when the mouse isn't hovering over |
| 13:02.14 | erb | like bartender3 |
| 13:02.19 | erb | but it never worked for autobar |
| 13:02.34 | cncfanatics | Provus, wait for 2.3 release for that, no workaround till then |
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| 13:02.42 | Provus | No setattribute trickery? |
| 13:02.47 | cncfanatics | no |
| 13:02.50 | Provus | ..shit. |
| 13:02.50 | cncfanatics | the API doesn't exist |
| 13:03.49 | Provus | Urgh.. Either I need to switch to Bongos or I need to use my old interface until 2.3 |
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| 13:04.14 | cncfanatics | not rly |
| 13:04.19 | Provus | ? |
| 13:04.21 | cncfanatics | actualy,sec |
| 13:04.27 | Orionshock | ... Provus AutoBar isn't an action bar addon |
| 13:04.36 | Provus | ..what are you talking about? |
| 13:04.47 | Provus | What's autobar? |
| 13:04.54 | Orionshock | .. nevermind im fried |
| 13:05.04 | Orionshock | don't mind me |
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| 13:05.48 | cncfanatics | Provus, use less macro's? |
| 13:06.03 | erb | provus: its an addon that automatically puts food/pots/water/mount |
| 13:06.04 | erb | etc on it |
| 13:06.04 | Lothaer | another post LF Mod Developer, http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405440 its by one of the dudes at bosskillers.com |
| 13:06.07 | cncfanatics | now, lesson done, leaving |
| 13:06.08 | alext | erb: no |
| 13:06.08 | Provus | Summon Water Elemental + Freeze is pretty essential. |
| 13:06.21 | erb | alext: ? |
| 13:06.30 | alext | erb: voln |
| 13:06.37 | erb | oh |
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| 13:06.40 | erb | diaf |
| 13:06.43 | alext | yup ;[ |
| 13:07.22 | erb | what i'd really like is a replacement for autobar |
| 13:07.57 | kebinusan | I miss the ole addon sprocket |
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| 13:08.17 | Orionshock | erb: why? autobar is fine as is |
| 13:08.27 | erb | well i have 2 problems with it |
| 13:08.41 | erb | #1) no longer able to add my own pots as part of a categorie |
| 13:08.49 | erb | #2) becomes unclickable sometimes |
| 13:09.05 | Orionshock | revert untill the recode is done |
| 13:09.14 | Orionshock | welcome to beta .. it blows |
| 13:09.24 | erb | i'll take your advice |
| 13:09.48 | Orionshock | ... look in the autobar opening post iirc there is a link to the old version before the shit hit the fan |
| 13:10.11 | Orionshock | btw don't use WAU if you arn't willing to debug shit and beta test |
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| 13:11.06 | Orionshock | i wonder just how many of the 50k some odd commits to the ace svn is translation updates |
| 13:11.31 | erb | orion: i'll take the chance that 5% of the time I will have issues with WAU |
| 13:11.42 | erb | if i run into an issue like this its not the end of the world :) |
| 13:11.55 | erb | alext uses WAU every 30 seconds |
| 13:12.00 | alext | nay |
| 13:12.02 | Orionshock | noob |
| 13:12.33 | alext | only once a day ;[ |
| 13:12.42 | Orionshock | why? |
| 13:12.48 | alext | i never have issues though and even if i did, i actually make backups *cough erb* |
| 13:12.53 | erb | heh |
| 13:13.00 | alext | Orionshock: because i like the latest a greatest? cause i dont mind bugs cause i got backups? |
| 13:13.00 | erb | alext: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518907017&postId=24740743708&sid=1 |
| 13:13.08 | alext | Oo |
| 13:13.14 | erb | orionshock: he runs Vista |
| 13:13.17 | erb | enough said |
| 13:13.19 | Orionshock | le me show you something stupid |
| 13:13.20 | Orionshock | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace |
| 13:13.28 | Orionshock | ok - look over the commits of the last week |
| 13:13.46 | Orionshock | and think to yourself ... 70% or more of these commits are Locale updates |
| 13:13.50 | alext | why its all locale updates |
| 13:13.55 | Orionshock | wtf am i doing updating locales im not in |
| 13:14.03 | alext | so who cares |
| 13:14.04 | alext | i have backups |
| 13:14.14 | alext | i dont see what the problem is lol |
| 13:14.21 | alext | i am not complaining, nothing is broken... |
| 13:14.45 | Orionshock | problem... |
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| 13:15.59 | alext | well have fun hanging half the community because we all know WAU is used differently than intended |
| 13:16.36 | alext | but in my defense, I update often and i make bug reports. |
| 13:16.37 | Orionshock | ya.. it'll be alot of dead bodies to contend with ... better get started eh Tekkub? |
| 13:16.41 | alext | so i dont see what the problem is |
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| 13:17.37 | Orionshock | well... theres the catch - updating as an End user is assinine; updating however with the mindset of a beta tester is quite another |
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| 13:18.17 | Orionshock | well be back in a few days - im gona blow up my compter |
| 13:18.19 | Orionshock | ... |
| 13:18.22 | Speeddymon | orion, will the UnitIsAFK fix for automaton fix the |
| 13:18.34 | Orionshock | ... |
| 13:18.35 | evl | WoWace is the only project I know of where users check out from the trunk |
| 13:18.36 | Speeddymon | issue with being a bg and still being ported to another bg |
| 13:18.37 | evl | it's pretty insane |
| 13:18.42 | Orionshock | Speeddymon: no |
| 13:18.48 | Speeddymon | didnt think so |
| 13:18.50 | evl | stable tags would work *slightly* better |
| 13:18.52 | Orionshock | it just does an AFK check and returns if you are |
| 13:19.10 | Speeddymon | ill add it, and also add the other fix assuming i can find something similar to UnitIsInBG() |
| 13:19.36 | Orionshock | old argument |
| 13:20.01 | evl | I don't download nightlies for Firefoz |
| 13:20.06 | evl | because they are likely to blow up |
| 13:20.08 | Speeddymon | lol i do |
| 13:20.13 | evl | then you are CRAZY |
| 13:20.19 | evl | ... is your name Ivan by chance? |
| 13:20.33 | Orionshock | Speeddymon: look at FuBar_ReportAFK |
| 13:20.40 | Orionshock | look in the tablet code |
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| 13:21.03 | Orionshock | that should do what you want it to |
| 13:21.10 | Speeddymon | kk |
| 13:21.48 | Orionshock | evl: no |
| 13:22.16 | evl | Locales suck and directly building zips from the trunk sucks |
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| 13:22.18 | evl | That's my .2 |
| 13:22.39 | Orionshock | my solution - much more elegant and way smarter |
| 13:22.50 | Orionshock | why they don't do it is beyond me |
| 13:23.35 | Orionshock | if you want to know : read the forums |
| 13:23.53 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:25.50 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: re:Guildbanks, bilz should set it up to where a 3pa addon can manage it remotely |
| 13:26.03 | Orionshock | IE all transactions |
| 13:26.43 | [Ammo] | evl it'll get lots better no worries |
| 13:27.02 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r52986 10FuBar_ReportAFK/ReportAFK.lua: |
| 13:27.02 | CIA-7 | FuBar_ReportAFK: |
| 13:27.02 | CIA-7 | -Fix typos |
| 13:27.06 | evl | [Ammo]: You're the sunshine in my lua-heart. |
| 13:27.08 | Orionshock | typos |
| 13:27.10 | Orionshock | :P |
| 13:27.12 | Orionshock | wtf? |
| 13:27.24 | [Ammo] | guess you suck at typing? :) |
| 13:27.28 | Orionshock | i do |
| 13:27.29 | Orionshock | :D |
| 13:27.36 | [Ammo] | evl: and new MSBT 5.0 is sexy |
| 13:27.39 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 13:27.44 | evl | [Ammo]: I like the default |
| 13:27.50 | evl | MSBT doesn't provide anything extra |
| 13:27.50 | [Ammo] | I hate it |
| 13:27.56 | [Ammo] | maybe in 2.3 it will work better |
| 13:27.58 | evl | It's just MORE TEXT ULL UVAR UR SCREEN |
| 13:27.59 | [Ammo] | when it scales with the UI |
| 13:28.05 | evl | I scale it manually :P |
| 13:28.29 | Orionshock | .... AKF => AFK |
| 13:28.32 | [Ammo] | msbt is actually less text :) |
| 13:28.33 | evl | I just latched onto the default one in a small addon to add killing blows and ofc UT2003 sounds! |
| 13:28.37 | [Ammo] | since it merges :) |
| 13:28.37 | evl | mmmmmooonsterkiiillll |
| 13:28.48 | Orionshock | but at least i was consistent though out the file. |
| 13:28.55 | [Ammo] | which is kinda relevant for AoE and DoTs |
| 13:29.12 | evl | Oh, all your seeds into one? |
| 13:29.21 | [Ammo] | yarrr |
| 13:29.29 | [Ammo] | Seed of Corruption 12345 (10 hits) |
| 13:29.35 | evl | So an addon that removes the whole point of being a warlock?! |
| 13:29.39 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 13:29.46 | evl | huge crits all over screen yes plix? |
| 13:29.49 | [Ammo] | no thanks plix |
| 13:29.53 | evl | :( |
| 13:29.57 | evl | what about a dot like rupture |
| 13:30.04 | [Ammo] | it can combine it too |
| 13:30.05 | Orionshock | Speeddymon: did that help/work? |
| 13:30.07 | Provus | I tried using Mik's and I thought it was too distracting. |
| 13:30.10 | [Ammo] | Rupture 1234 (2 hits) |
| 13:30.21 | [Ammo] | if they tick within the throttle time |
| 13:30.30 | evl | MSBT is a huge app |
| 13:30.36 | evl | and obviosly sucks resources |
| 13:30.39 | [Ammo] | it's kind small atm |
| 13:30.46 | [Ammo] | and too bad you can't profile the blizzard app |
| 13:30.50 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 13:31.01 | evl | And acccording to Surly's DPS Constants: DPS -= Resources = BAD |
| 13:31.08 | [Ammo] | ahah |
| 13:31.12 | evl | :) |
| 13:31.21 | Provus | I think in the feature video they had for Mik's they showed that the mod actually takes up a very small amount of resources |
| 13:31.41 | [Ammo] | it's pretty damn good |
| 13:31.44 | evl | I like the default loot |
| 13:31.46 | evl | look |
| 13:31.51 | evl | like numbers over peoples heads |
| 13:32.10 | [Ammo] | I used to like it, but then I found it was less spammy if I used msbt :) |
| 13:32.59 | Orionshock | tbh even when i was using oldschool SCT, i really didn't pay much attention to it.. most i saw was how fast and how many |
| 13:33.03 | evl | does msbt use sink? |
| 13:33.04 | evl | or rock? |
| 13:33.06 | Orionshock | the more the better the less the worse |
| 13:33.26 | Gngsk | independant throttle times per skill, that's kinda nice |
| 13:33.38 | Gngsk | could you have it show dmg for a full 5pt rupture at the end? |
| 13:33.54 | evl | I'd like the texts to come up over stuffs head but I want to be able to see it too |
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| 13:37.19 | evl | [Ammo]: that does look very neat indeed, haveto try it when I get home |
| 13:37.30 | evl | [Ammo]: can It do basic spell alert stuff? |
| 13:38.49 | evl | wow, neat, gotta test! |
| 13:39.51 | [Ammo] | yes it can |
| 13:40.10 | [Ammo] | it has basic spell alert stuff |
| 13:40.17 | [Ammo] | will have to see how much |
| 13:40.30 | [Ammo] | to decide wether to discontinue witchhunt or not |
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| 13:40.49 | Lukian | Why are there 3+ addons all with the purpose of removing salvation? |
| 13:40.57 | Gngsk | because salvation is evil |
| 13:41.24 | Gngsk | [Ammo], did you install the shared media plugin for MSBT 5? |
| 13:42.14 | [Ammo] | I installed nothing |
| 13:42.18 | Gngsk | ah |
| 13:42.19 | [Ammo] | just basic thing |
| 13:42.34 | Gngsk | the zip seems to look messed up, no containing folder, just toc and lua files |
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| 13:44.22 | Yasper | hi, i have searched the net for a while now, but i cant find any info on whats causing my Aloft to show !!!Tag Error!!!... could anyone help me with this? |
| 13:45.02 | Orionshock | Yasper: delete your wtf file or reset the current profile |
| 13:46.15 | Yasper | ah thanks, didnt even think of thatone, reseted and it worked -.- |
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| 13:49.01 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r52987 10Automaton/modules/Queue.lua: |
| 13:49.01 | CIA-7 | Automaton: Drycoded |
| 13:49.01 | CIA-7 | - Add checking if player is AFK before instant joining |
| 13:49.01 | CIA-7 | - Add option to not join a BG if already in a BG. |
| 13:49.01 | CIA-7 | This option will still allow you to queue for a BG while in one, just not join it. |
| 13:50.33 | Orionshock | hehe |
| 13:50.40 | Orionshock | reinstalled - and patched with in 2hrs |
| 13:52.03 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: :( |
| 13:52.12 | Orionshock | pvp server still disconnecting me on login |
| 13:52.51 | Orionshock | & Client still exting when trying pve server :(( |
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| 13:55.46 | Speeddymon | orion: to answer your question bout typos, yes, in the locales you had AFF and AKF instead of AFK, and all of the rest of the locales were done the same way.. Copy/paste is bad when u can't spell AFK lol |
| 13:56.17 | Orionshock | A, F, K all look the same at 5 ft from the screen |
| 13:56.41 | Speeddymon | so buy a bigger screen |
| 13:56.52 | nevcairiel | or get closer |
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| 13:57.02 | Speeddymon | nah make him spend money as punishment hehe |
| 13:57.15 | Speeddymon | then he will /wrist hehehe |
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| 14:00.00 | Timangi | Can anyone assist me with a sct issue? show dmg on nameplates ain't working proberly and would like to fix that |
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| 14:01.12 | CIA-7 | 03auditjj * r52988 10BigBrother/localization_zhTW.lua: |
| 14:01.12 | CIA-7 | BigBrother: |
| 14:01.12 | CIA-7 | - updated zhTW localization |
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| 14:10.16 | Gngsk | I guess withhunt won't be replaced, MSBT only does buff gains and emotes |
| 14:10.45 | Gngsk | seems sink has to be updated for 5.0 though, I tell it to output WH messages to static msbt and it goes to chat |
| 14:11.29 | [Ammo] | didn't sink get updated? |
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| 14:11.48 | Gngsk | well, it shows the new frame |
| 14:11.51 | Gngsk | but it still outputs to chat |
| 14:11.59 | Gngsk | lemmem run wau real quick |
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| 14:12.43 | Nefarion | Anyone on the PTR right now? |
| 14:12.47 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r52989 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: typo fix |
| 14:13.39 | Nefarion | I noticed in the actual API changes thread that there's a new API "SetTracking" to go with the tracking changes. I'm wondering if this is protected/secure, or calls the GCD.. |
| 14:13.50 | Nefarion | Anyone know or can test? |
| 14:14.26 | Gngsk | k, update fixed it |
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| 14:14.32 | Gngsk | should've known |
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| 14:21.52 | ulic | changing tracking does not call the GCD |
| 14:22.20 | Nefarion | but pre-2.3, wasn't CastSpellByName required for it? |
| 14:22.27 | Gngsk | uhm |
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| 14:22.42 | Gngsk | I'm not test right now and when I activate find minerals I get a quartz gcd bar |
| 14:22.43 | Nefarion | And I do recall issues with it calling the GCD |
| 14:23.32 | Nefarion | I'm mainly interested in the long forgotten idea of the infinite tracking--have a throttled OnUpdate function cycle the tracking continuously to show the player multiple trackings. |
| 14:23.38 | Gngsk | tracking vendors/npcs doesn't cause gcd though |
| 14:23.39 | Nefarion | Which broke in 2.0 |
| 14:24.08 | Gngsk | tracking herbs/minerals always triggered the gcd as far as I remember |
| 14:24.09 | Nefarion | So anything not gained through a class spell or prof doesn't? |
| 14:24.24 | Gngsk | didn't copy my hunter so I can't test that |
| 14:24.36 | Gngsk | but using the new stuff doesn't trigger gcd |
| 14:24.39 | Nefarion | but is SetTracking secure? |
| 14:24.49 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r52990 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: ace3 branch: No timer on free unit frames. We know they're safe |
| 14:24.57 | Nefarion | can anyone test it with a /script command? |
| 14:25.38 | Gngsk | I tried /run SetTracking("Poisons") and it cleared what I was tracking before but didn't start tracking poisons |
| 14:25.42 | nevcairiel | probably needs hardware event |
| 14:25.49 | Nefarion | On a totally unrelated note, what do you guys think is more worth it for a 41/3/17 'lock arena build-- +6% hp or +20% healthstone return? |
| 14:28.19 | Nefarion | Gah I'm stupid, +hp is way better. |
| 14:29.50 | ag` | yes, it is! |
| 14:30.29 | JoshBorke | +hp |
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| 14:32.09 | ag` | oink got owned |
| 14:32.31 | deltron | fools |
| 14:32.35 | Gngsk | yah, I think the tracking thing requires a hardware event |
| 14:32.43 | Pkekyo | http://stillalive.moo.no/ full of win and awesome |
| 14:32.47 | deltron | ag`: what did they expect? |
| 14:34.01 | ag` | dunno |
| 14:34.22 | ag` | they should just have ran it from sweden |
| 14:34.34 | ag` | Pkekyo: someone played portal I guess |
| 14:35.26 | deltron | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/12 |
| 14:35.27 | deltron | :) |
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| 14:43.31 | krka | i dont get that comic deltron, please explain it for the noobs like me! |
| 14:44.44 | Megalon | portals, it's all about the portals |
| 14:44.56 | krka | that ancient game demo? is that out yet? |
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| 14:45.56 | deltron | krka: portal! you have one entrance, one exit, and they are linked together |
| 14:50.38 | erb | anyone use TrackerDial? |
| 14:51.31 | krka | true, i have one entrance and one exit. so do most people! |
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| 15:05.26 | Shinja | hi |
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| 15:07.08 | Astika | can anyone tell me if cmdaceupdater is still active, cannot seem to find download link for it :/ |
| 15:13.33 | Lukian | http://wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater#Other_Programs_and_Scripts_that_Update_Ace_Addons @ Astika |
| 15:15.03 | Astika | I've been there, which redirects me to the CmdAceUpdater thread which has no download links in it, that i can see ... disabling noscript to double-check |
| 15:16.57 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.17 | ulic | perhaps Astika isn't logged in. I think you have to be logged into the forums in order to see attachments |
| 15:19.41 | Astika | i'm logged in ^^ |
| 15:20.04 | Astika | and nowi 'm not |
| 15:20.07 | Astika | dammit noscript |
| 15:20.31 | Astika | ok, logged in, annnd i see links. >_< |
| 15:20.33 | Lukian | use a browser where you don't need to use silly addons like noscript ^^ |
| 15:20.45 | SunTsu | .o0( lynx? ) |
| 15:20.55 | Lukian | Opera imho |
| 15:21.02 | Astika | lol, fail |
| 15:21.03 | Megalon | SunTsu: haha, had the same thought ;D |
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| 15:30.34 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r52992 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: regenerate data |
| 15:32.39 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r52993 10PitBull_AltAura/ (options.lua update.lua): PitBull_AltAura: split the different layout strategies in different functions. Use an internal cache to remember the strategy for each group. |
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| 15:41.04 | Trell_ | on the subject of portal: http://portal.wecreatestuff.com/ |
| 15:41.14 | Trell_ | that game is the spawn of the devil, and most annoying. |
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| 15:42.04 | ulic | I think I got to level 14 before I downloaded the real thing. |
| 15:42.19 | Trell_ | 15 i reached and got stuck |
| 15:42.28 | Trell_ | im gonna buy the real game later today I think |
| 15:42.37 | Trell_ | wet my appetite as it were |
| 15:43.02 | ulic | it's fun, not way long, but there are bonus levels and user created levels |
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| 15:45.00 | Trell_ | lol. watching the trailer for it on youtube. "If at first you don't succeed, you fail." |
| 15:45.09 | Nocts | Portal is an awesome game. |
| 15:45.35 | Nocts | After about 30 minutes, I felt like I wanted to throw up my head was spinning so bad. |
| 15:45.54 | Nocts | After the next 20 minutes, it was addicting as hell and my mind had become used to working with "portals" |
| 15:46.51 | Timangi | kk |
| 15:46.51 | Trell_ | right im buying it |
| 15:46.55 | Trell_ | now |
| 15:46.58 | Nocts | It |
| 15:47.01 | Nocts | is |
| 15:47.02 | Nocts | worth it. |
| 15:47.30 | Trell_ | i had random people msn'ing me about how good it was, but it was only playing that flash version that piqued my interest |
| 15:47.36 | pastamancer | I bought it last night and didn't get in to work until 11am today. |
| 15:47.43 | durcyn | Portal is masterful. |
| 15:47.54 | Nocts | And the challenge levels afterwards? |
| 15:47.55 | Nocts | OMG |
| 15:48.05 | Nocts | I wanted to shoot myself until the game reminded me of cake |
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| 15:48.13 | Nocts | must... have... cake. |
| 15:48.29 | pastamancer | ooh, I finally decided to turn off the computer and go to work in the middle of level 18 |
| 15:48.34 | Industrial | this flash game is easy |
| 15:48.37 | Industrial | im at 17 already |
| 15:48.58 | Nocts | I should make a video to show people. |
| 15:49.00 | durcyn | challenge 15 and 18 made me cry |
| 15:49.28 | Trell_ | whats team fortress 2 like |
| 15:49.45 | Nocts | 18+ made my eyeballs cry joyous tears of confusion, suffering, and jealousy |
| 15:49.49 | Trell_ | toying with buying the orange box |
| 15:50.08 | Nocts | Trell |
| 15:50.11 | Trell_ | but im a 'real' game noob. |
| 15:50.36 | Nocts | There is no cake. |
| 15:50.36 | Trell_ | i bought CS a couple of months back, but I suck at it, 'cos it's not wow >_< |
| 15:50.51 | Nocts | brb, going to record portal and turn it into a promotional device |
| 15:52.32 | Industrial | 24 |
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| 15:53.34 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
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| 15:55.42 | xyu | zugzug |
| 15:55.47 | Codexius | hey guys |
| 15:55.54 | xyu | Wow has ruined my FPS skills |
| 15:55.57 | xyu | for sure |
| 15:56.00 | Codexius | got a question, anyone have an answeR? |
| 15:56.08 | pastamancer | 42 |
| 15:56.12 | deltron | lol |
| 15:56.16 | deltron | ~ask2ask |
| 15:56.16 | purl | i heard ask2ask is people who ask if they may ask a question which is a question itself. So why don't ask your real question in the first place? ;-) |
| 15:56.20 | Codexius | lets say I have an example icon path Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_Fanaticism' |
| 15:56.38 | Industrial | 28\ |
| 15:56.39 | Codexius | wowwiki has a collection of icons. how do i get the ingame icon path of |
| 15:56.39 | Codexius | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_Gem_Diamond_07.png |
| 15:56.40 | Codexius | ? |
| 15:56.46 | Industrial | howmany levels are there? |
| 15:56.59 | Megalon | the portal flash version? |
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| 15:57.18 | Megalon | 40 |
| 15:58.24 | Codexius | anyone? |
| 15:58.51 | Trell_ | wewt, downloading |
| 15:58.54 | Trell_ | bought the orange box |
| 16:00.07 | Codayus | Orange Box = win. |
| 16:00.17 | Trell_ | is tf2 any good? |
| 16:00.22 | Codayus | Very |
| 16:00.34 | Trell_ | cool. I'm most looking forward to playing portal tbh |
| 16:00.46 | pastamancer | ~framexml |
| 16:00.47 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 16:01.02 | Codayus | Portal is just about the coolest few hours of gaming I can recall. |
| 16:01.30 | Codayus | But eventually, it's over. And then you listen to the credits about 50 times, but even that gets boring. And then you play TF2, and it's fun. |
| 16:01.38 | Paradox | if I wanted an eepanel to show only in raid how would I go about doing that |
| 16:01.40 | Codayus | :-) |
| 16:01.43 | ulic | Codex-DESTROMATH: in game icons are in Interface\Icons\<icon name> which is the same as what you have above minus the .jpg |
| 16:01.49 | ulic | er .png |
| 16:01.49 | Azurewrath | Codayus: yep.. and the Outro/Credits rock ;) |
| 16:01.56 | Azurewrath | And the Cake is a lie. |
| 16:02.00 | Trell_ | Paradox; attach it to a raid window? |
| 16:02.00 | Codayus | Mmm. |
| 16:02.03 | Codayus | Cake. |
| 16:02.08 | Trell_ | what is it you want to show only in a raid? |
| 16:02.14 | Codayus | It is both delicious and moist! |
| 16:02.14 | Paradox | an eepanel |
| 16:02.21 | Trell_ | yeah, I get that bit |
| 16:02.23 | Trell_ | wahts on it |
| 16:02.23 | Industrial | 31 |
| 16:02.27 | Paradox | I dunno |
| 16:02.29 | Paradox | it's for a friend |
| 16:02.45 | Trell_ | eg: I've got Grid attached to an eepanel so that it only shows in a raid |
| 16:03.06 | Paradox | how do you attach them? |
| 16:03.14 | Trell_ | getframename |
| 16:03.18 | Trell_ | i forget the command |
| 16:03.21 | Trell_ | someone in here can tell you |
| 16:03.32 | Trell_ | basically, you put your mouse pointer over what you want to attach it to |
| 16:03.52 | Trell_ | then type /script GetWorldFramName or some crap, and it prints the frame name |
| 16:04.02 | Trell_ | then in your eepanel settings for that panel, you set the frame name as the parent. |
| 16:04.09 | Paradox | would it be the PArent option in the waterfall meny |
| 16:04.10 | Paradox | menu* |
| 16:04.14 | Trell_ | yup |
| 16:04.24 | Paradox | so find the frame name of say, omen, write it in there? |
| 16:04.28 | Trell_ | yup |
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| 16:05.56 | cncfanatics | the script is |
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| 16:08.11 | lordgreg | i came here for a little suggestion. one of my chars which i like to play ATM is alliance pally on Magtheridon PvP. to be hones, i'm not sure why i choosed PvP realm,.. so i need suggestion on which realm to move (PvE). I really don't like global chans flooded with swedish/finish conversations and horde killing lowbies from alliance all the time. Please give me an advice (i have my main on Alonsus PvE which is good, but looking for similar or |
| 16:08.45 | Codayus | Be careful about a pvp to pve move. |
| 16:08.45 | Paradox | thanks Trell_, cncfanatics |
| 16:08.46 | cncfanatics | PvE servers suck imo |
| 16:08.48 | Codayus | You can't go back. |
| 16:08.48 | cncfanatics | rerolling PvP atm |
| 16:08.59 | Codayus | And if you want to do pve raids, a pvp server is better. |
| 16:09.01 | Kemayo | Diao: Any errors? |
| 16:09.04 | Codayus | Yes, I know that sounds stupid. |
| 16:09.11 | Trell_ | why so Codayus? |
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| 16:09.24 | Codayus | Count the number of horde guilds that have killed illidan on pvp. |
| 16:09.27 | Codayus | Do this for pve. |
| 16:09.43 | Codayus | Notice the ratio is about 3:1. |
| 16:09.58 | RaydenUni | for a shadow priest, how much hit do i need to make up for 1 point of Shadow Focus? |
| 16:10.13 | RaydenUni | each point is 2% hit |
| 16:10.28 | Codayus | The picture is similar for US and EU, horde and alliance, and at different levels of progression. The most advanced raid guilds...tend to be pvp. |
| 16:10.49 | dylanm | You're more free to transfer and people consider it more "hardcore" |
| 16:11.12 | dylanm | Well, you're not really that free. I doubt anyone would go PvP -> PvE |
| 16:11.19 | Nocts | I think you need to worry less about global convos and pvp and more about what the server offers as a whole. |
| 16:11.29 | Nocts | Every server has channel abuse. Every server has PvP camping. |
| 16:11.42 | lordgreg | Codayus: i understand. well... doesn't matter so much.. i just like PvE more, never liked PvP that much. |
| 16:11.43 | Nocts | Especially with the inclusion of forced PvP zones in WotLK... |
| 16:11.58 | Arrowmaster | i hate pvp but i play on a pvp server |
| 16:12.04 | Nocts | Start looking into guilds and the attitude of the players, not just the two aspects you dislike. |
| 16:12.19 | Paradox | because a server is pvp doesn't mean you are going to be pvping constantly.. it's just an element to the game which personally makes the atmosphere of the server better and more "exciting" to play on |
| 16:12.21 | Codayus | lordgreg: Again, if your serious about pve...you should be on a pvp server because that's where the pve guilds are. :-) |
| 16:12.46 | Nocts | What is it you dislike about your current server, anyway? |
| 16:12.52 | lordgreg | well... |
| 16:12.55 | Nocts | And for the love of binary, be specific. |
| 16:13.03 | lordgreg | AH prices, most of Magtheridon players = horde etc |
| 16:13.13 | Codayus | http://wowjutsu.com/us/ |
| 16:13.29 | Codayus | US guilds sorted by first Illidan kills. |
| 16:13.31 | Trell_ | lordgreg - magtheridon eu? |
| 16:13.40 | Industrial | 32 sucked |
| 16:13.44 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.44 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:14.01 | Nocts | EU or US, lord? |
| 16:14.05 | lordgreg | EU |
| 16:14.13 | RaydenUni | what level are the bosses in KZ? |
| 16:14.15 | Trell_ | I can reccomend Draenor EU, its ok |
| 16:14.21 | Trell_ | most of my chars are there |
| 16:14.31 | Nocts | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=566&factionid=-1&minlevel=10&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=2 |
| 16:14.32 | Trell_ | however, I have rerolled on a couple of pvp servers too |
| 16:14.33 | Nocts | LOL |
| 16:14.39 | lordgreg | thank you for info.. |
| 16:14.41 | Trell_ | since I want to 'feel the burn' |
| 16:14.43 | lordgreg | going to look at those realms now |
| 16:14.43 | Nocts | That is the worst server ratio known to mankind. |
| 16:14.45 | Arrowmaster | RaydenUni: worldboss level |
| 16:14.56 | RaydenUni | so what is that? |
| 16:15.04 | Arrowmaster | same as every other raid boss in the game |
| 16:15.05 | RaydenUni | at least 10? |
| 16:15.19 | RaydenUni | i'm trying to figure out level difference to see how much 1% +hit is |
| 16:15.32 | RaydenUni | basically trying to determine if i can take a point out of Shadow Focus |
| 16:15.35 | Arrowmaster | character level +3 |
| 16:15.47 | Arrowmaster | do you have 16% spell hit? |
| 16:15.58 | RaydenUni | 77+hit |
| 16:16.06 | Arrowmaster | %? |
| 16:16.11 | RaydenUni | 16.1 i think |
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| 16:16.21 | RaydenUni | but i have 3 gem slots i can put +8 hit in |
| 16:16.25 | Codayus | It's 12.6 points of rating per %. |
| 16:16.32 | Nocts | A level 70 caster gains 1% chance to hit for every 12.6 points of spell hit rating, making the effective cap 202 |
| 16:16.32 | RaydenUni | i'm wondering if i should do that to free a talent point |
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| 16:16.59 | RaydenUni | so i'd need ~24 +hit to even out 1 point of shadow focus |
| 16:17.00 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 16:17.06 | Codayus | So 76 with full Shadow Focus. 101 with 4/5. |
| 16:17.21 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 16:17.22 | Nocts | Bosses are +3 char level? |
| 16:17.28 | Codayus | Nocts: Yes. |
| 16:17.32 | RaydenUni | i have this awesome excel spreadsheet calculator that tells me |
| 16:17.42 | Nocts | + 3 83% default chance to hit |
| 16:17.53 | Nocts | +3 character level at 83% default chance to hit |
| 16:17.54 | Arrowmaster | with a cap of 99% |
| 16:17.58 | Nocts | Bingo |
| 16:18.12 | Nocts | Meaning you need 16% to cap |
| 16:18.15 | Nocts | or.... |
| 16:18.27 | Codayus | Nocts: 83% to hit = 17% to miss. 1% unavoidable = 16%. 10% from talents = 6% to hit. 12.6 rating per % = 76 rating.... |
| 16:18.29 | Nocts | 20.16 points of spellhit |
| 16:18.37 | Nocts | *201.6 points of spellhit |
| 16:19.07 | Nocts | Well, that works too |
| 16:19.07 | Nocts | lol |
| 16:19.12 | RaydenUni | http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=5797 <-- an Excel Spreadsheet for determining your theoretical DPS for shadowpriests |
| 16:19.17 | Nocts | Help clear things up, rayden? |
| 16:19.25 | Codayus | And 25.2 rating more per point of Shadow Focus you drop, to a maximum of, yes, 201.6. :-) |
| 16:19.35 | Codayus | ....and don't forget your 1% hit aura if your draenei. |
| 16:19.49 | Codayus | Stupid draenei. |
| 16:19.51 | Arrowmaster | fucking imba draenei |
| 16:19.54 | lordgreg | when choosing a good pve realm, should i also consider this list to be good, other than the url's you gave: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/events/wareffort/servers.html |
| 16:20.12 | Nocts | That's come and gone |
| 16:20.16 | Arrowmaster | wareffort is kinda meaningless now |
| 16:20.20 | lordgreg | ah... |
| 16:20.23 | Nocts | Pre-BC event |
| 16:20.25 | lordgreg | did not know this to be true :$ |
| 16:20.30 | Nocts | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php |
| 16:20.32 | Nocts | Use that. |
| 16:20.43 | RaydenUni | Nocts i guess so |
| 16:20.45 | Nocts | Find a decent EU server that fits the population density and ration you feel comfortable with. |
| 16:20.47 | lordgreg | yesyes, checking that right now |
| 16:20.49 | Pkekyo | HOMECOOKING KILLS THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS!!!!!! |
| 16:20.57 | lordgreg | Nocts: ty |
| 16:21.00 | Nocts | And then make a temp character and check on the guilds and community |
| 16:21.08 | Codayus | I'd find a good guild, ideally on a server with other guilds in case your first choice doesn't work, apply, get accepted, and then transfer... |
| 16:21.11 | Nocts | ie. the forums to see if someone made a sticky about that server's guild progression |
| 16:21.57 | lordgreg | yea.. will do new char and just check global/trade/ah for an hour or so + guild status on forums |
| 16:21.57 | RaydenUni | basically you need 23-24 +hit for every point of Shadow Focus |
| 16:22.07 | Codayus | Make sure to create an alt and hang out in shatt for a while. Chech the AH. Chat with whomever you apply with. |
| 16:22.26 | lordgreg | um, why Shatt? |
| 16:22.31 | Codayus | IF if you prefer. |
| 16:22.35 | lordgreg | :) |
| 16:22.41 | Codayus | Any capital city so you can see the channels. |
| 16:22.48 | Nocts | Go org, if you want to do it right,. |
| 16:22.56 | Codayus | And frankly, in the long run, you'll spend more time in shatt than elsewhere. :-) |
| 16:23.07 | lordgreg | this, true:) |
| 16:23.39 | Codayus | My hobby: As alliance, sneaking into Orgrimar, then trying to buy things on the trade channel for twice what their worth on condition that the seller deliver it to me in person. |
| 16:23.57 | Codayus | (Okay, actually, I only did that once. It was fun though.) |
| 16:24.07 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Babble-Fish-2.2 why the fuck are illegal addons on wowace ? |
| 16:24.56 | Nocts | Fun |
| 16:25.04 | Nocts | But can't we already do that with packet sniffing? |
| 16:25.09 | Codayus | cncfanatics: That needs to be dealt with... |
| 16:25.22 | Codayus | Nocts: Doesn't matter, against the rules... |
| 16:25.47 | lordgreg | okay, i have one, last question... should i look on "Recommended" realms or any available? |
| 16:26.03 | Nocts | If I was honestly worried about the WoW EULA, a lot of things would be done differently. |
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| 16:26.27 | dylanm | Sadly, Kaelten probably _is_ worried. |
| 16:26.43 | dylanm | And that's what matters :p |
| 16:26.53 | RaydenUni | i can't find anything worth putting a point into if i take one out of Shadow Focus... |
| 16:27.10 | cncfanatics | okay I'm deleting that wiki page ? |
| 16:28.39 | Codayus | RaydenUni: Scavenge enough points to get silence? |
| 16:28.43 | snurre | hm, wtf is up with every tv show and their dog airing on mondays? weeds, californication, how i met your mother, the big bang theory, chuck, prison break, two and a half men, heroes, k-ville |
| 16:28.44 | Codayus | Wowhead talent link? |
| 16:28.48 | RaydenUni | it's already in my build |
| 16:28.53 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVMhzhZZxGgzMtRhtAo |
| 16:29.02 | RaydenUni | i ended up putting it in imp mind blast i guess |
| 16:29.26 | Codayus | Hmm... |
| 16:29.46 | Codayus | Are you a raider? |
| 16:30.09 | RaydenUni | we are just starting KZ |
| 16:30.14 | Codayus | Ah. |
| 16:30.17 | RaydenUni | like i ran it for the first time sunday |
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| 16:30.21 | Codayus | Well, that's trickier. |
| 16:30.31 | Codayus | If you run 25 man raids, I'd take 1 out of Shadow Weaving. |
| 16:30.39 | RaydenUni | not any time soon |
| 16:31.19 | Codayus | In Kara, you'll always be the only shadow priest I suspect. Even solo, the 5th point doesn't add that much. |
| 16:31.45 | RaydenUni | we have a warlock |
| 16:31.51 | RaydenUni | but where else would i put the points? |
| 16:32.03 | RaydenUni | imp mind blast is good up to about 3 points? |
| 16:32.06 | Codayus | Maxing shadow power is good, and 1-4 points in Imp MB is good. |
| 16:32.14 | Codayus | But that's largely based on your gear. |
| 16:32.19 | RaydenUni | i think going 3-1 on imp mind blast over shadow power gives more dmg... |
| 16:32.28 | Codayus | As your +dmg climbs, you'll start riding your MB and SW:D cooldowns... |
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| 16:32.44 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath raydenuni |
| 16:32.46 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (13/2/46). 7471 HP; 7755 Mana; 164 mana regen; 25 mp5; 106 spell crit; 55 spell hit; 369 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (548); 218 shadow dmg (587); 5.06% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1329 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Tue Oct 23 12:36:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:32.50 | dylanm | Think about your rotations and your haste before throwing stuff into Imp MB. |
| 16:33.16 | Codayus | Anyhow, the idea behind Shadow Weaving is that you want to stack it on a boss, but it'll stack EVENTUALLY with 1/5 or 5/5. |
| 16:33.36 | RaydenUni | right now VE, VT, SWP, SWD and MB as they come up, else mind flay or refresh dots |
| 16:33.56 | RaydenUni | where else would i put points if not info shadow weaving? |
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| 16:33.59 | Codayus | With 2 spriests in a raid, there's no reason to have 5/5, they'll stack it almost instantly. With 1...it won't stack to 5 instantly, but it's probably fast enough. |
| 16:34.05 | RaydenUni | at this point i'm seeing little benefit from anything i don't have |
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| 16:34.21 | Thrae | RaydenUni: Basket Weaving (3/3) |
| 16:34.24 | Codayus | Like I said, Imp MB and Shadow Power. Those will, ultimately, help your DPS a lot. |
| 16:34.38 | Codayus | But I think you'd need to break 1k shadow dmg fully buffed before you'll notice much. |
| 16:34.40 | RaydenUni | if i have 4 points 2-2 or 3-1? |
| 16:34.53 | RaydenUni | according to this chart i have 1% +crit is like .04 dps |
| 16:34.57 | RaydenUni | but i don't have too much +dmg yet |
| 16:35.13 | Codayus | I'm at 1.1k, and I struggle with mana if I go nuts with mind blast on most fights. |
| 16:35.48 | RaydenUni | i wish i hadn't logged off while mounted |
| 16:35.53 | RaydenUni | i want to see what my 2nd trinket is |
| 16:35.58 | Codayus | If your using the spreadsheet I think, pay attention to your total damage output, not what it lists as DPS. |
| 16:36.21 | Codayus | It calculates them oddly. :-) |
| 16:36.24 | RaydenUni | it shows dps and maximum continuous casting time |
| 16:36.27 | RaydenUni | i don't see a damage out |
| 16:36.35 | Codayus | must be a new one then, nevermind. |
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| 16:36.55 | RaydenUni | http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=5797 |
| 16:37.11 | Codayus | If you do need to raid points from somewhere, imp VE is not always the best talent to have |
| 16:37.15 | Codayus | A real aggro magnet. :-) |
| 16:37.20 | alext | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.21 | alext | lol |
| 16:37.48 | RaydenUni | yeah that got me killed at attumen... |
| 16:37.54 | RaydenUni | off tank... |
| 16:38.14 | Codayus | ...mmm, you pulled aggro on ATTUMAN? Ouch. |
| 16:38.38 | RaydenUni | i was dps'ing midnight like mad, keeping threat with the main tank, the off tank got stunned and attumen came after me |
| 16:38.54 | RaydenUni | off tank is a new 70 warrior though, so he's not fully specced or equipped to tank |
| 16:39.01 | Codayus | Heh |
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| 16:39.05 | Codayus | Wow, that's kinda impressive. |
| 16:39.14 | RaydenUni | i find it amusing i pulled aggro solely from VE and VT though |
| 16:39.19 | Codayus | Yes. |
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| 16:39.31 | RaydenUni | but i guess if he got stunned and attument forgot about him, i would be 2nd on the list |
| 16:39.53 | RaydenUni | http://raydenuni.com/wow/logs/wws-20071022-0205/ |
| 16:40.05 | RaydenUni | yes, i know many of my guildmates are doing really low dps |
| 16:40.20 | RaydenUni | i talked to a bunch of people yesterday about builds and stuff so hopefully it will go better next time |
| 16:40.43 | SunTsu | Then everybody will draw aggro? ;) |
| 16:40.55 | RaydenUni | the warlock was hitting 300dps |
| 16:40.57 | RaydenUni | that's not ok |
| 16:41.04 | RaydenUni | 350 |
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| 16:41.40 | Codayus | Your rogue is scary too. :-) |
| 16:41.41 | RaydenUni | maybe i'll respec and put 4 into shadow focus, and leave that last point free |
| 16:41.43 | RaydenUni | see what happens |
| 16:41.44 | RaydenUni | yeah... |
| 16:41.58 | RaydenUni | i don't know the rogue personally though |
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| 16:42.21 | Codayus | And I don't know enough about rogue mechanics to even guess. :-) |
| 16:42.29 | RaydenUni | i was told his build was funky |
| 16:42.33 | alext | heh |
| 16:42.38 | Codayus | Combat swords, so how bad can it be? |
| 16:42.39 | alext | your warlock was using conflag in a raid setting |
| 16:42.40 | alext | Oo |
| 16:42.51 | Gngsk | lol |
| 16:42.51 | mort | your dpscycle looks a bit off too |
| 16:43.00 | Gngsk | WWS parses at their most embarassing |
| 16:43.05 | RaydenUni | someone linked me a standard destruction build i'll give him |
| 16:43.12 | RaydenUni | hmm? |
| 16:43.14 | RaydenUni | tips for me? |
| 16:43.18 | Codayus | RaydenUni: Recommend affliction for T4 content. |
| 16:43.21 | Pkekyo | why are 90% of people in gladiator+ gear so insecure about the size of their penis that they have to gank lowlevels? |
| 16:43.22 | alext | well he really needs to go affliction |
| 16:43.23 | mort | keep sw:d on cooldown |
| 16:43.28 | alext | he doesnt have the hit or gear to go destruction |
| 16:43.41 | Gngsk | warrior is using bloodthirst and slam, is that right? |
| 16:43.42 | Codayus | Destruction needs VERY good gear. |
| 16:43.51 | Ellipsis | dude, why is everyone always talking about warlock stuff here |
| 16:43.58 | Ellipsis | don't you people play any other classes? |
| 16:44.02 | Pkekyo | because everyone are playing ezmode warlocks |
| 16:44.06 | mort | <- shadowpriest ;) |
| 16:44.08 | alext | we were talkin about shadowpriests |
| 16:44.09 | RaydenUni | sorry |
| 16:44.10 | RaydenUni | affliction build |
| 16:44.13 | Pkekyo | (except me, I'm the one standing infront of the nerfbat) |
| 16:44.13 | RaydenUni | for my warlock friend |
| 16:44.21 | cncfanatics | rogues win the world |
| 16:44.23 | RaydenUni | <mort> keep sw:d on cooldown <-- ? |
| 16:44.25 | cncfanatics | including vs stupid locks |
| 16:44.36 | Ellipsis | love you too cncfanatics |
| 16:44.43 | alext | RaydenUni: just send him to www.wowmb.net |
| 16:44.44 | Nocts | Pkekyo: Learn to take a beating on a pvp server or gtfo. |
| 16:44.50 | mort | you have only 14% dmg from shadow word: death |
| 16:44.51 | alext | thats the easiest thing to do |
| 16:45.08 | mort | stop mindblasting before you stop with sw:d |
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| 16:45.26 | RaydenUni | i'm throwing up SWD and MB together |
| 16:45.36 | RaydenUni | as often as they are up (and i notice) :P |
| 16:45.43 | Pkekyo | Nocts: I'm very good at taking beatings... doesn't mean I have to like it, nor that I can't question why the fucktards are ganking people so immensely lower than themselves (level wise) |
| 16:45.50 | mort | get cooldowntimers then ;) |
| 16:45.57 | durcyn | hourglass. |
| 16:45.58 | Nocts | Pkekyo: You honestly can't figure out why? |
| 16:46.04 | Gngsk | RaydenUni, tell the warrior to use WW instead of slam ? |
| 16:46.18 | RaydenUni | Gngsk someone gave me a build and i emailed it to the warrior |
| 16:46.41 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czhbZVVzVtxoVuqo |
| 16:46.53 | Nocts | Pkekyo: Because it's fun. I world PvP from 1-70 at every possible chance, even if that means revisiting the older places I once leveled at to see the difference in guards, players, and a general "unstoppable" feeling. |
| 16:46.56 | Pkekyo | Nocts: well, the theory about unsecurity regarding the size of their penis is a pretty sound theory imo... |
| 16:46.57 | Gngsk | slam resets the swing timer, which stops white dmg, which is what the bulk of fury warriors dmg comes from |
| 16:47.24 | Codayus | Incidentally, the best resource for this kinda info has got to be the EJ forums. |
| 16:47.27 | Codayus | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/ |
| 16:47.35 | RaydenUni | what is cooldowntimers? i can only find discussion forums |
| 16:47.36 | Pkekyo | "I'm unstoppable because I can kill people that are 50 levels lower than me and this makes me a godd player!" err...no |
| 16:47.37 | Nocts | Pkekyo: I think that if you are hoping to equate insecurity in personality to people killing lower levels, then you've got a lot more to worry about in regards to your interprative perspective on MMORPG PvP. |
| 16:47.38 | Gngsk | yah, but sorting through EJ can be tough |
| 16:47.48 | Codayus | Confusing, but the info is there. Somewhere. |
| 16:47.51 | Nocts | Pkekyo: Who said anything about it proving they are a good player? |
| 16:47.54 | Codayus | Which it usually isn't on the official forums. |
| 16:48.07 | Nocts | Maybe they don't want to always 1v1 same levels in a continual WSG/AV queue? |
| 16:48.08 | Codayus | Or wowwiki (which is often outdated or wrong...) |
| 16:48.11 | Nocts | Maybe they want some fun. |
| 16:48.16 | Gngsk | depends, I read a really nice hunter guide yesterday on the official forums |
| 16:48.21 | Nocts | Do you think the ghosts in pacman bitch when he goes invincible? |
| 16:48.33 | Nocts | Do you think pacman is thinking "omg i r leet, cuz i eet ghosts" |
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| 16:48.48 | Codayus | Gngsk: I did say usually. :-) |
| 16:48.48 | Pkekyo | Do you think pacman is a real person? :) |
| 16:48.54 | Nocts | No, pacman is thinking "oh shit, I get to finally have some fun instead of running around in circles" |
| 16:49.23 | Nocts | It's a stress reliever, a sense of fun. A part of the game where you don't have to always be on your toes. |
| 16:49.45 | Nocts | If it bothers you that much I'd gladly recommend you moving to a PvE server and never stepping outside of Goldshire. |
| 16:50.04 | Pkekyo | if only it was possible to goddamn transfer to a pve server I'd done it ages ago |
| 16:50.07 | RaydenUni | what does cooldowntimers do? i can't find info |
| 16:50.14 | Nocts | ANYONE can transfer to a PvE server |
| 16:50.19 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: time cooldowns? |
| 16:50.23 | xyu | you can xfer to pve i do bleive. |
| 16:50.24 | RaydenUni | yeah it's pve to pvp you can't do |
| 16:50.25 | xyu | believe |
| 16:50.27 | xyu | just not back again |
| 16:50.29 | Codayus | Heh, I once spent a fun afternoon in Goldshire on a PvE server. I collected a full set of lvl 1-10 gear, hung out, and tried to get people to duel me. |
| 16:50.36 | Nocts | PvP characters can go wherever they want |
| 16:50.37 | xyu | so, good luck w/ the crap pve |
| 16:50.40 | Codayus | Then when they did, I'd chain CC them. |
| 16:50.42 | Nocts | PvE/RP characters can only go RP/PvE |
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| 16:51.03 | Codayus | (I was max level at the time, of course.) |
| 16:51.11 | RaydenUni | the idea being that levelling in a PVE environment isn't fair to those who leve in a pvp environment |
| 16:51.11 | Nocts | PvE isn't going to be some magical land of non-pvp from higher levels. |
| 16:51.13 | Codayus | And they said you can't grief on pve! |
| 16:51.18 | Pkekyo | "oy blizzard, wtb logics?" |
| 16:51.22 | Nocts | Instead of them killing you, you'll simply arrive to an empty city and a dead flight path master. |
| 16:51.48 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 16:51.53 | Nocts | You can /dance /rasp /spit all you want on the level 70's now, but you still can't turn in your "collect 12 bones" quest. |
| 16:52.11 | Ellipsis | most world pvp on pve servers died when the BGs came out |
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| 16:52.18 | Nocts | ^ |
| 16:52.24 | Nocts | Damnit Daemona |
| 16:52.26 | Ellipsis | occasionally there's still a raid on southshore or crossroads |
| 16:52.29 | Nocts | ^ |
| 16:52.39 | Nocts | And some of us actively world PvP |
| 16:52.41 | Ellipsis | but other than that, your flight masters and quest npcs aren't going anywhere |
| 16:52.44 | cncfanatics | <3 raiding guilds doing IF raids |
| 16:52.45 | Codayus | Frankly, these days, leveling on pvp is pretty much identical to pve. A few hours more ganking...maybe? Nothing compared to the time spent leveling. |
| 16:52.58 | Codayus | The griefing now comes from trying to use a summoning stone or do dailies. |
| 16:53.07 | Nocts | Hilarious fun times :d |
| 16:53.34 | xyu | hell yah, i had some bastard shadowpriest pewpew me while i was doing the Terokk summoning in Skettis |
| 16:53.42 | xyu | pissed me off cuz now i dont have an urn to summomn him |
| 16:53.43 | xyu | QQ |
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| 16:53.45 | Nocts | Poor bastards should have scouted the stone before assuming it was going to be an empty walkthrough. |
| 16:53.45 | Daemona | Nocts ? |
| 16:53.51 | Codayus | Ayup. |
| 16:53.56 | cncfanatics | try lvl'ing on a high population PvP server ? |
| 16:53.57 | Nocts | Daemona: You interrupted my IRCism remark with joining. |
| 16:54.01 | cncfanatics | totaly diff then a PvE server imo |
| 16:54.02 | Codayus | But the point is, that removes the entire point of restricted transfers. |
| 16:54.05 | Nocts | cncfanatics: I am, and I don't see the difference. |
| 16:54.09 | durcyn | you can't tell me you actually enjoyed the tm/ss zerg spam |
| 16:54.15 | cncfanatics | well, on kazzak there's some ganking quite often |
| 16:54.19 | Codayus | Which is the leveling... |
| 16:54.20 | Daemona | perhaps you should make more use of queries then instead of highligting me |
| 16:54.21 | Nocts | Ganking happens all the time. |
| 16:54.28 | Nocts | But I don't see it slowing anything down. |
| 16:54.38 | xyu | nah |
| 16:54.41 | xyu | life goes on |
| 16:54.43 | Nocts | ^ |
| 16:55.07 | Nocts | I level faster on a PvP server because a PvE server makes it boring enough that I want to smash my face into a brick wall. |
| 16:55.28 | Nocts | ffs, please dear god bring someone near me that thinks they can gank me. It's a free HK unless they're a 70 |
| 16:55.30 | xyu | I would think griefing would be more abundant on a PvE server |
| 16:55.36 | xyu | if you can't kill him what do you do? |
| 16:55.38 | xyu | steal his mobs |
| 16:55.39 | xyu | tap shit |
| 16:55.40 | xyu | etc. |
| 16:55.58 | xyu | i'm sure they've found creative ways to grief ^^ |
| 16:56.01 | Nocts | That and shutting down an entire quest area city still only takes one person. |
| 16:56.06 | Nocts | No raid needed. |
| 16:56.10 | Nocts | Two people can down a flightpath master. |
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| 16:56.34 | xyu | used to be one with that stun = no elite bats/gryphons bug |
| 16:56.46 | Nocts | Nice |
| 16:57.07 | xyu | if you charged or stunned the flightmaster as your first hit he wouldn't summon. |
| 16:57.21 | xyu | that was back in BWL days thoug, i'm sure it's changed by now |
| 16:57.42 | xyu | i'm kind of sad they removed the Loch Modan choke point. :D |
| 16:57.47 | xyu | some good pre-raid pvp there |
| 16:59.07 | Ellipsis | [9:55:22 am] <xyu> i'm sure they've found creative ways to grief ^^ <<anything you can do to grief your own faction, you can do to the other faction :P |
| 16:59.29 | [gk]Hotphoenix | best way to do that is banish mobs people are fighting |
| 16:59.37 | [gk]Hotphoenix | or fear etc and let them pull loads |
| 16:59.45 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 16:59.45 | xyu | haha yeah, i was doing banishing once and this guy was trying to grief me by flying over my body until the cannons shot fire flack at me. |
| 16:59.48 | xyu | was quite annoying :P |
| 16:59.51 | Ellipsis | tagging or CCing their mobs is most common |
| 17:00.00 | Paradox | I do that a lot xyu |
| 17:00.02 | Paradox | its funny |
| 17:00.48 | I_D | xyu: I do that all the time |
| 17:00.48 | I_D | the most fun is had in Skettis, at the daily escort |
| 17:00.48 | I_D | just aggro a mob, draw it to the npc and he'll attack it |
| 17:00.48 | I_D | repeat x infinity |
| 17:00.55 | SunTsu | I really never understood why anybody does it |
| 17:00.55 | Nocts | Horde have a wonderful grief tactic for org. |
| 17:01.07 | Nocts | Be a hunter and invite a level 35- to your group. |
| 17:01.14 | Nocts | Set hostile to Cenarion Circle |
| 17:01.31 | Nocts | Openfire after a misdirect(spell name?) |
| 17:01.44 | Nocts | Cenarion circle tauren opens up hell on the level 35- |
| 17:01.51 | xyu | y eah i've seen that one a few times. |
| 17:02.01 | Nocts | Saw that for the first time a few days ago, HILARIOUS |
| 17:02.31 | Paradox | where can I submit a bug for cartographer |
| 17:02.40 | I_D | eventually the people escorting the npc will run out of health or mana, or the npc will :) |
| 17:02.48 | Ellipsis | Paradox: jira.wowace.com |
| 17:03.28 | Paradox | do I have to register to add a bug? |
| 17:03.35 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 17:03.40 | Paradox | oh fuck that then |
| 17:03.44 | Ellipsis | but if you're too lazy I can post it for you |
| 17:04.06 | Nocts | Paradox: I don't see what's so difficult about registering |
| 17:04.33 | Nocts | You don't think a project would actually allow anonymous bug reports, do you? |
| 17:04.40 | Nocts | :X I can't imagine the abuse scenarios |
| 17:04.46 | Paradox | it's not about difficulty it's because I can't be bothered |
| 17:04.49 | xyu | it's not even a hard activation |
| 17:04.51 | Paradox | http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6315/wowscrnshot101607195226an3.jpg |
| 17:04.53 | xyu | you don't even need to check your email |
| 17:04.59 | xyu | just enter a username and submit |
| 17:04.59 | Paradox | I get this most if not all times I enter an instance |
| 17:05.13 | Paradox | post that for me if you would, Ellipsis. I am too lazy |
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| 17:05.23 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 17:06.33 | Paradox | thanks |
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| 17:08.19 | Funkeh` | loes |
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| 17:08.57 | Ellipsis | Paradox: when do you get that error, and does it prevent anything from working? |
| 17:09.01 | xyu | where is your favorite place to mine adamantite? i'm barrowing afriends miner and have no idea ^_^ |
| 17:09.19 | Paradox | Ellipsis: when I enter an instance usually |
| 17:09.26 | Paradox | doesn't seem to prevent anything from working |
| 17:09.49 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 17:10.29 | Industrial | Ellipsis: Y ELLO THAR |
| 17:10.39 | Ellipsis | hai Industrial <3 |
| 17:10.43 | Industrial | :-) |
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| 17:12.08 | Ellipsis | what's up |
| 17:13.48 | Industrial | niheehe ^______^ |
| 17:13.50 | Industrial | um, not much |
| 17:14.03 | Industrial | you? |
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| 17:15.19 | Hjalte | Will Serpentshrine Lurkers still do poison mushrooms when banished? oO |
| 17:16.36 | Ellipsis | hungry Ellipsis is hungry! |
| 17:16.43 | Ellipsis | and bored :P |
| 17:16.56 | Industrial | I just ate :] |
| 17:17.06 | Industrial | a habuggah! |
| 17:17.13 | pastamancer | a baby? |
| 17:17.35 | Industrial | hamburger* |
| 17:17.35 | MrAvaren | is anyone familiar with the workings of cartographer? |
| 17:17.37 | tinyboom | gief habuggah:D |
| 17:17.56 | Industrial | MrAvaren: ask. |
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| 17:19.18 | MrAvaren | I'm working on a small addon to broadcast the location of guildies when they dont have the full Cartographer installed, cart send out a comm message with the args "REQUEST" and the map location being viewed |
| 17:19.51 | MrAvaren | when i try to listen for this message i get no args other than the prefix, sender and the distribution type, guild |
| 17:20.49 | Paradox | bah Recount is broken |
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| 17:23.27 | MrAvaren | SendCommMessage("GUILD", "REQUEST", name) is the line cart uses to send message and im using this to recieve it but ... is nil OnCommReceive(prefix, sender, distribution, ...) |
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| 17:24.09 | Ellipsis | er |
| 17:24.15 | Ellipsis | what do you mean ... is nil |
| 17:24.19 | Ellipsis | ... isn't a variable |
| 17:24.31 | Orphis | Hi |
| 17:24.42 | MrAvaren | there are no more arguments i mean, there should be a message argument |
| 17:25.03 | Ellipsis | what message should there be? |
| 17:25.20 | Orphis | Is it possible to add some feature in Recount to show the different phases in a fight ? Like putting a little bar in the graph and telling "Here starts phase 3" |
| 17:26.16 | Ellipsis | if there's a way to manually mark times, maybe |
| 17:26.28 | Ellipsis | but recount doesn't know about bosses and their phases, so it can't do it automatically |
| 17:26.30 | MrAvaren | well one should be REQUEST and another of the name |
| 17:26.56 | Orphis | Well, it could grab info from bigwigs |
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| 17:27.15 | Ellipsis | maybe you should write a bigwigs module to do that then :) |
| 17:27.15 | Orphis | Or info from any addon that would like to mark something |
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| 17:30.46 | Moshiach | http://files.wowace.com/ maintaining? |
| 17:30.55 | Ellipsis | eh? |
| 17:31.36 | Kaelten | its up |
| 17:31.38 | Kaelten | why? |
| 17:33.53 | Moshiach | i can't see any addons on the page |
| 17:34.29 | Hjalte | works for me |
| 17:34.36 | Ellipsis | enable javascript |
| 17:34.39 | Moshiach | it's blank, except options |
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| 17:35.45 | Moshiach | thanks Ellipsis |
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| 17:43.58 | Elynna | I just updated my autobar, and now im getting errors with it :( |
| 17:45.25 | CIA-7 | 03oridan * r52996 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 17:45.25 | CIA-7 | SpellReminder: |
| 17:45.25 | CIA-7 | - bugfix texture assign |
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| 18:09.16 | CIA-7 | 03Tristan * r52997 10Enhancer/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:09.16 | CIA-7 | Enhancer: |
| 18:09.16 | CIA-7 | - Added the ability to set a separate gem quality max for non epic gear if you so wish (for Equivalence stuff) |
| 18:09.16 | CIA-7 | - Added some procs and use numbers to items |
| 18:09.16 | CIA-7 | - Added a news window (will only show once per time there is news available) |
| 18:09.17 | CIA-7 | - Some minor tweaks and bug fixes. |
| 18:09.27 | Ozguli | Should I start actively telling about the bugs I find? |
| 18:09.44 | Ozguli | often using the latest version anyway |
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| 18:18.42 | Firik | woot, just killed Illidan for the first time! |
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| 18:20.04 | Stanzilla | Firik: gratzi |
| 18:20.38 | Firik | tnx |
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| 18:20.58 | Chompers | :O |
| 18:23.06 | cncfanatics | Ozguli, ofc you shld |
| 18:23.22 | Ozguli | now I thought about this |
| 18:23.38 | Ozguli | I'm not in the real beta team of WoW |
| 18:23.41 | Ozguli | which will be lame |
| 18:23.53 | Ozguli | compared that I'm in the credits of another game |
| 18:24.10 | Ozguli | 2D caveflying :P |
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| 18:30.08 | Poul|Raider | anyone know about ptr and ZA if you start the event by mistake and zone out, if you get a chance to do it again if zone out.? |
| 18:30.12 | Poul|Raider | or is it just lost |
| 18:30.17 | Poul|Raider | when its first started |
| 18:30.23 | durcyn | once it's gone for a copy, it's gone. |
| 18:30.30 | durcyn | and you're saved when you talk to harrison jones |
| 18:30.49 | Poul|Raider | ye, a guy ran in talked to him so we are 3 that got saved :D |
| 18:30.57 | Poul|Raider | missing the last healer so no go tonight :D |
| 18:31.43 | Knaledge | Where can I find LibRecycle? |
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| 18:47.13 | Nefasti | Heya |
| 18:48.12 | snurre | LOL, im watching the latest how i met your mother.. there's wow footage in it :p |
| 18:48.55 | Nefasti | wau 2.0, where? |
| 18:49.11 | Ellipsis | ~wau2 |
| 18:49.12 | purl | wau2 is probably http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 18:50.15 | Nefasti | nice |
| 18:51.45 | Nefasti | It looks like cartographer_guildposition is choking at this line "local AceEvent = Rock("AceEvent-2.0")" anyone have an idea? |
| 18:52.09 | Ellipsis | what do you mean choking at that line? are you getting an error? |
| 18:52.16 | Nefasti | ya |
| 18:52.21 | Ellipsis | what's the error? |
| 18:53.52 | Nefasti | http://ace.pastey.net/75721 |
| 18:54.09 | snurre | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoG69iiGQT0 |
| 18:54.24 | Ellipsis | Nefasti: you need Ace2 |
| 18:55.00 | Nefasti | It's at the libs folder. |
| 18:55.14 | Nefasti | Download the latest cartographer version from file.wowace |
| 18:55.14 | Gnarfoz | how does "acevent = rock(...)" make any sense oO |
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| 18:56.03 | Nefasti | dunno, tried to find about the rock() call and could not find it. |
| 18:56.10 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: it's using the Rock framework to access a library it needs |
| 18:56.13 | nymbia | sounds very hackish |
| 18:56.16 | Ellipsis | that library just happens to be part of Ace :/ |
| 18:56.28 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: it really does? or only the hackish cartographer1 |
| 18:56.49 | Ellipsis | that particular line is from _GuildPosition |
| 18:56.51 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 18:56.54 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 18:56.56 | Nefasti | yeah |
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| 18:57.17 | Nefasti | but it's used at main cart.lua but passing some arguments. local AceEvent = Rock("AceEvent-2.0", true, true) I think. |
| 18:57.28 | Nefasti | and some condition check after |
| 18:57.56 | Ozguli | what color and type your cables are? |
| 18:58.02 | Ellipsis | there's probably a specific reason why AceEvent is still being used |
| 18:58.03 | Gnarfoz | so _gp registers the real AceEvent through Rock, although Cart itself uses Rock? oO |
| 18:58.12 | Ozguli | I'm using wlan but have orange cat-6 on the floor |
| 18:58.23 | Gnarfoz | has to be, Ellipsis, that's not very much like ckk ^^ |
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| 18:59.41 | CIA-7 | 03ascalia * r52998 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 18:59.41 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 18:59.41 | CIA-7 | - updated Zul'Aman Loot |
| 19:01.11 | Nefasti | think I'll just take that line out, there seems to be no use of the local "AceEvent" at other part of the file. |
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| 19:02.55 | Nefasti | There's lots of open issues with cart on jira, ckk been missing lately? |
| 19:03.13 | Chompers | busy with a secret project |
| 19:03.15 | Chompers | shhhh |
| 19:03.24 | Nefasti | lol |
| 19:03.34 | LAG|Domo | Damn AtlasLoot DCs me every time I open it now >.> |
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| 19:04.29 | CIA-7 | 03lilsparky * r52999 10LilSparkysWorkshop/ (LilSparkysWorkshop.smultronProject lilsparkysworkshop.lua): |
| 19:04.29 | CIA-7 | LilSparkysWorkshop: |
| 19:04.29 | CIA-7 | - fixed typo in aucadvanced pricing system |
| 19:05.51 | Nefasti | wau2 will be the official sucessor to wau 1.9? |
| 19:05.59 | Nefasti | or it's another project? |
| 19:06.27 | Gnarfoz | some day, it will |
| 19:06.51 | Arrowmaster | who blew up fish? |
| 19:06.53 | Arrowmaster | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk |
| 19:07.25 | Ellipsis | whoa |
| 19:07.39 | nymbia | ~blame Funkeh` |
| 19:07.40 | purl | ACTION blames Funkeh` (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 19:09.13 | cncfanatics | and canada ? :o cewl |
| 19:09.57 | Nefasti | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce is ok |
| 19:10.25 | Arrowmaster | click on trunk in the side list |
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| 19:11.06 | Chompers | we're just trying hydross |
| 19:11.10 | Arrowmaster | yay for shitty ajax lagging up my browser |
| 19:11.10 | Chompers | what a great fight |
| 19:11.17 | Arrowmaster | ~flame ajax |
| 19:11.17 | purl | ajax, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 19:16.21 | Nefasti | I think my guild will try him this week. |
| 19:16.28 | Nefasti | They want to craft some resist gear for tank |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53000 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-7 | -- Remove bogus category |
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| 19:20.41 | Gnarfoz | http://www.newswire.co.kr/nwboard/img_sub_view.php?id=113193&mem_id=123&picsize=big |
| 19:20.44 | Gnarfoz | http://www.newswire.co.kr/nwboard/img_sub_view.php?id=113194&mem_id=123&picsize=big |
| 19:20.47 | Gnarfoz | need :< |
| 19:21.30 | nevcairiel | the girl or the screen? |
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| 19:23.37 | snurre | id take the screen |
| 19:23.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i'll take two of each. |
| 19:23.48 | Funkeh` | I'll take the girl then |
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| 19:24.05 | snurre | already got girls, and im not *that* into asians |
| 19:24.18 | Hjalte | I am! I'll take her :> |
| 19:24.21 | Ellipsis | it's a tough one...I'm gonna go with both |
| 19:24.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | also, that is a gigantic picture |
| 19:24.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | took me like a week of scrolling just to FIND the girl |
| 19:24.47 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: She's mine! My precious...! |
| 19:25.41 | Funkeh` | uhu.. |
| 19:25.52 | Funkeh` | calm down now.. restrain yourself |
| 19:26.02 | Funkeh` | also girls > items |
| 19:26.30 | Ozguli | I chatted with many of them IRL today, I'm less geek! |
| 19:27.15 | Funkeh` | have a cookie |
| 19:28.00 | Ozguli | Ate last one yesterday |
| 19:28.09 | Funkeh` | never have enough cookies |
| 19:28.14 | snurre | i ate a jewcookie today :p |
| 19:28.21 | Ozguli | except bad ones |
| 19:28.29 | Ellipsis | wait, being around girls makes yuo less geek? |
| 19:28.40 | Ozguli | I think so |
| 19:28.43 | NightHawkTheSan1 | hardly |
| 19:28.50 | Ellipsis | what if the girls are geeks too? |
| 19:28.56 | snurre | double bonus |
| 19:28.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | also, in a vaguely related note.. |
| 19:29.01 | NightHawkTheSan1 | oink is gone. |
| 19:29.14 | Ozguli | If they listen to metal? |
| 19:29.19 | snurre | ScT > all anyway :p |
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| 19:32.05 | Arrowmaster | who wants to see me die twice on our first vashj kill last night? |
| 19:32.07 | Arrowmaster | http://files.filefront.com/Vashjavi/;8870312;/fileinfo.html |
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| 19:33.35 | LAG|Domo | Are you a hunter? |
| 19:34.34 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:34.56 | LAG|Domo | You're a nonhunter called Arrowmaster? :p |
| 19:35.00 | dylanm | NightHawkTheSan1: I know :( it sucks |
| 19:35.13 | Arrowmaster | ive had the alias Arrowmaster for 10 years |
| 19:35.15 | NightHawkTheSan1 | "sucks" is the understatement of the centure. |
| 19:35.19 | NightHawkTheSan1 | century& |
| 19:35.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | * |
| 19:35.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i totally need to find a new place to get music now. |
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| 19:38.11 | Tekkub | is oink gone, or just down? |
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| 19:38.30 | syeren | Gone judging from the page :p |
| 19:38.47 | Tekkub | oh |
| 19:38.49 | nevcairiel | wtf is oink? |
| 19:38.53 | Tekkub | it was just ofline last night |
| 19:39.19 | NightHawkTheSan1 | nevcairiel: it was the best music torrent site. ever. |
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| 19:40.30 | Xelopheris | hrm, 2 pitchers of guiness is almost as good as a lunch |
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| 19:41.19 | NightHawkTheSan1 | probably more filling, too. |
| 19:41.43 | NightHawkTheSan1 | "Hope you like Guiness, sir. It's a wonderful substitute for... food." |
| 19:42.18 | Xelopheris | yeah. It's also great after three midterms int he same day |
| 19:42.25 | Xelopheris | blech, fucking spelling and grammar right now |
| 19:42.32 | Xelopheris | fuck* |
| 19:42.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | eh, you only made one typo, it's all good. |
| 19:42.59 | Xelopheris | I know. I'm a great drunk |
| 19:43.19 | Xelopheris | I've tanked Nef while drunk as a horde druid, I should be a fairly good drunk |
| 19:43.27 | Xelopheris | a level 70 horde druid, mind you, but still |
| 19:44.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | pfeh, like tanking as a druid is hard anyway. ;) |
| 19:44.18 | Xelopheris | ... druid class call? |
| 19:44.27 | NightHawkTheSan1 | sarcasm? ;) |
| 19:44.31 | nymbia | lol |
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| 19:44.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | although it's arguably not terribly worse than the warrior class call |
| 19:44.48 | Xelopheris | no, much worse |
| 19:44.53 | Xelopheris | at least warriors can still shield block in zerker |
| 19:44.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | true |
| 19:45.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i guess you do lose all that health and armor |
| 19:45.13 | Xelopheris | druid class call = pop both trinkets and pray I don't get a crush |
| 19:47.22 | LAG|Domo | Druid tanking Nefarian is just plain masochism |
| 19:47.24 | Xelopheris | and blow one pally's imp loh |
| 19:49.04 | LAG|Domo | same with druid tanking KT |
| 19:49.31 | LAG|Domo | I hate those ferals that constantly feel the need to prove themselves. KT is just easier if you wear a shield, so I leave it to warriors |
| 19:51.36 | nymbia | lol, why is atlasloot still a beast of pure bloat when you can sweep-cache itemids without getting disconnected now |
| 19:53.13 | Tuller | because most people don't know that yet :P |
| 19:53.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | nymbia: write a better one? :P |
| 19:54.13 | nymbia | Tuller: the change was in 2.2, right? |
| 19:54.21 | Tuller | yeah, but not listed in any notes |
| 19:54.57 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I think atlasloot was modified for that, as it queries on mouseover now, not merely on click. *shrug* |
| 19:55.38 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSan1: then why not store just the itemids now? |
| 19:56.12 | NightHawkTheSan1 | nymbia: *shrug* search me? I'm not the author, I'm just noting what i've observed. |
| 19:56.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | so, like i said, write a better one? ;) |
| 19:56.46 | nymbia | heh |
| 19:59.43 | Xelopheris | atlasloot now queries all items immediately |
| 20:00.18 | nymbia | but clearly, their names and icons still need to be stored locally. |
| 20:00.25 | nymbia | ;) |
| 20:01.03 | NightHawkTheSan1 | obviously |
| 20:02.48 | CIA-7 | 03diablohu * r53001 10ArenaMaster/localization.lua: |
| 20:02.48 | CIA-7 | ArenaMaster: |
| 20:02.48 | CIA-7 | - update zhCN |
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| 20:03.30 | Tekkub | well hell, if oink's gone, I'm purging all those seed torrents I had boosting my ratio :) |
| 20:03.30 | nymbia | ok here's a question since i'm lazy |
| 20:04.15 | nymbia | what's the best of the hud addons floating around out there |
| 20:04.29 | Tekkub | BestHUD |
| 20:04.29 | Ellipsis | they all suck imo |
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| 20:04.46 | nymbia | Tekkub: score, thanks ;) |
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| 20:05.16 | Tekkub | I've used Arc for a long time, but the only parts of it I every notice are my MP, enemy cast, my HP and enemy HP |
| 20:06.07 | Tekkub | wow, I only have one torrent in uTorrent now |
| 20:06.13 | Tekkub | damn those oink seeds! |
| 20:07.04 | cncfanatics | meh, crap bandwith limitation I got |
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| 20:09.50 | nymbia | ooh neat.. msbt 5 |
| 20:11.29 | Paradox | <CIA-7> AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 20:11.29 | Paradox | <CIA-7> - updated Zul'Aman Loot |
| 20:11.44 | Paradox | using the latest Atlas/loot I don't see zul'aman anywheere on it? |
| 20:12.16 | Ozguli | outdoor raid? |
| 20:12.37 | Ozguli | friend tried to kill a miniboss of one of those |
| 20:12.51 | Ozguli | failed a bit, he just thought it was quest elite or similar |
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| 20:18.59 | ckknight | anybody know a better IRC client for Windows instead of XChat? |
| 20:19.09 | Xelopheris | mirc |
| 20:19.13 | Xelopheris | just download a crack for it |
| 20:19.42 | ckknight | no, mIRC sucks |
| 20:19.50 | ckknight | from my experience |
| 20:20.01 | Xelopheris | then that's about it |
| 20:20.04 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with xchat? |
| 20:20.18 | ckknight | whenever I disconnect, it fucks with my channel listing and logs |
| 20:20.27 | ckknight | maybe I have an out of date version... |
| 20:20.31 | Ellipsis | there are a few other options, but really xchat and mirc are the only ones that don't fail at life in my experience |
| 20:20.57 | SunTsu | ckknight: There are builds of irssi for windows |
| 20:21.04 | durcyn | irssi. there is only irssi. |
| 20:21.10 | SunTsu | ACK |
| 20:21.15 | ckknight | *sigh* I miss my Mac already |
| 20:21.24 | CIA-7 | 03diablohu * r53002 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua): |
| 20:21.24 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:21.24 | CIA-7 | - zhCN update |
| 20:21.25 | Ellipsis | if you don't want a gui, you can always ssh into a *nix box and use bitchx or something |
| 20:21.40 | ckknight | I want a gui |
| 20:21.41 | SunTsu | .o0( or irssi *ducks and covers* ) |
| 20:21.43 | Ellipsis | I used to do that at school since IRC clients were strictly prohibited while SSH was encouraged... |
| 20:22.09 | ckknight | I like having variable-width fonts |
| 20:22.28 | ckknight | bbiab, gonna upgrade my client |
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| 20:25.50 | nymbia | ckknight: what happened to your mac? |
| 20:26.21 | ckknight | my charger got a wire ripped out, which caused the power chip in the laptop to short out, which fried my battery |
| 20:26.29 | ckknight | thank God for warrantees. |
| 20:26.35 | nymbia | ouch |
| 20:26.54 | ckknight | I've had it for 10 months |
| 20:27.08 | ckknight | but I use it so often it would have the equivalent of 3-4 years of abuse |
| 20:27.26 | ckknight | my warrantee lasts 3 years :-) |
| 20:27.31 | ckknight | warranty* |
| 20:27.54 | nymbia | that's the way to do it |
| 20:28.18 | nymbia | my old powerbook went kaboom about a month after it was out of warrantee |
| 20:28.30 | ckknight | at the end of 3 years, I'll get a new computer |
| 20:28.30 | nymbia | didn't get the extended :( |
| 20:28.43 | ckknight | I was smart and realized that I abuse the shit out of my equipment |
| 20:28.45 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:28.53 | nymbia | lol |
| 20:29.16 | Ellipsis | my laptop's power adapter went boom just after the warranty ran out |
| 20:29.23 | Ellipsis | Dell wanted $70 for a new one |
| 20:29.30 | Ellipsis | fortunately eBay only wanted $25 |
| 20:29.51 | Ellipsis | AND I didn't have to send the whole computer in to replace the power cable |
| 20:30.08 | ckknight | brb, gotta restart |
| 20:31.17 | rubik | wasn't someone here starting to work on a guild calendar/event planner type addon a while ago? |
| 20:31.47 | rubik | my guild really needs something like that.. since 90% of them aren't aware a guild forum exists |
| 20:32.18 | Diao | Kemayo: no errors, just doesn't show up. it still updates properly in the questsfu tracker though |
| 20:32.32 | Daemona | o.O i would never expect something like this from sun ... http://tinyurl.com/2vwby4 |
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| 20:34.02 | cncfanatics | nn ppl |
| 20:34.03 | Daemona | rubik was GEM - Guild Event Manager discontinued? ^^ |
| 20:34.11 | rubik | Combine... that's the addon.. Kaelten had started working on it |
| 20:34.23 | rubik | but it was very primitive and nobody picked it up |
| 20:34.28 | Daemona | i never found the use for that kind of addon |
| 20:34.39 | Daemona | dont you sport a forum / dkp ? |
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| 20:35.09 | rubik | no dkp cause no need yet (guild is casual and only doing karazhan/gruul so we NBG loot) |
| 20:35.22 | rubik | but yes, have forum but folks don't read it |
| 20:35.37 | Chompers | what's better for threat, revenge or heroic strike? |
| 20:35.56 | LAG|Domo | My gut says Heroic Strike |
| 20:35.57 | LAG|Domo | but I'm no warrior |
| 20:35.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | they're not mutually exclusive skills, and very different. |
| 20:36.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | revenge should typically have priority over heroic strike, in a rage-limited situtation, though |
| 20:36.30 | Chompers | tank with thunderfury, we're just trying to get the most out of him |
| 20:36.42 | NightHawkTheSan1 | people still USE thunderfury? |
| 20:37.21 | LAG|Domo | I guess people not in Hyjal/BT yet do. |
| 20:37.28 | LAG|Domo | Or people unlucky on tank drops |
| 20:37.35 | nymbia | king's defender, yo. |
| 20:37.42 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ^^? |
| 20:37.43 | LAG|Domo | It's still pretty good for threat compared to Karazhan/T5 tank weapons |
| 20:38.12 | LAG|Domo | I think Kungen used it until he got the BT Axe, to name an example, no? |
| 20:38.34 | LAG|Domo | Maybe he swapped it with the Lurker Mace before, not entirely sure |
| 20:39.34 | Keias | He used it all the way through illidan. |
| 20:39.51 | Keias | But thats because his guild is good, so they could afford to have their tank using a subpar weapon for so long |
| 20:40.17 | Gnarfoz | it's not sub-par by any definition oO |
| 20:41.08 | Keias | The proc is completely replacable by Imp Thunderclap |
| 20:42.34 | Trae | hey, dual boxing... and I am dragging char behind me. it's a pain to loot crap |
| 20:42.40 | Trae | is there an auto-loot addon |
| 20:42.44 | Trae | that anyone recommends? |
| 20:43.18 | Keias | Are your two character's not partied? |
| 20:43.23 | Trae | they are |
| 20:43.24 | JoshBorke | Trae: blizzard has an in game auto-loot |
| 20:43.33 | Keias | FFA + Blizz autoloot |
| 20:43.35 | Trae | I want to just nuke with one |
| 20:43.40 | MrAvaren | just set looting to free for all and one take it? |
| 20:43.43 | Keias | loot it with the character you're controling |
| 20:43.47 | Trae | and have the char auto loot it when near |
| 20:43.52 | Arrowmaster | not possible |
| 20:43.59 | Trae | lol quest drops are a pain |
| 20:44.00 | JoshBorke | not possible |
| 20:44.32 | Trae | k that's what I was afraid of |
| 20:44.46 | Trae | and auto-loot isn't really auto-loot it's "semi-auto" |
| 20:44.47 | Trae | lol |
| 20:45.04 | Trae | I had hoped there was a mod that if you moused over something it would auto loot it |
| 20:45.10 | Ellipsis | can't be done |
| 20:45.15 | Trae | Ellipsis, kk np |
| 20:45.21 | Trae | tx I knew YOU guys would know! |
| 20:45.26 | Ellipsis | Blizz doesn't want you to make zomgbots with that functionality |
| 20:45.39 | Trae | true |
| 20:45.43 | Trae | I just care about the xp anyway |
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| 20:52.10 | Ellipsis | hm...how much do nether combines usually cost? |
| 20:52.13 | CIA-7 | 03xska * r53003 10AceProfit/ (. AceProfit.lua AceProfit.toc AceProfit.xml): |
| 20:52.13 | CIA-7 | AceProfit: initial commit |
| 20:52.13 | CIA-7 | - makes it easy to sell junk items to vendors, based on AutoProfit. FuBar plugin available. |
| 20:52.35 | Arrowmaster | ~lart xska |
| 20:52.35 | purl | stabs xska |
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| 20:55.06 | CIA-7 | 03gandharva * r53004 10WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua: WhoLib: attempt to fix nil error |
| 20:55.13 | CIA-7 | 03jwensley2 * r53005 10MageAnnounce/ (MageAnnounce.lua MageAnnounce.toc): |
| 20:55.13 | CIA-7 | MageAnnounce: |
| 20:55.13 | CIA-7 | - fixed a problem that was causing crashes |
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| 20:58.11 | Gnarfoz | ~seen toadkiller |
| 20:58.13 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@75.30.187.11> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 29m 23s ago, saying: 'But SSC poison ticks > rend any day'. |
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| 21:02.14 | MrAvaren | Anyone heard of an addon that reports you're flying angle? |
| 21:02.16 | CIA-7 | 03Tristan * r53007 10Enhancer/bonus/EP.lua: |
| 21:02.16 | CIA-7 | Enhancer: |
| 21:02.16 | CIA-7 | - Bug sneaked in, fixed! |
| 21:02.18 | CIA-7 | 03xska * r53006 10AceProfit/: |
| 21:02.18 | CIA-7 | AceProfit: |
| 21:02.18 | CIA-7 | - properties update |
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| 21:02.57 | Ellipsis | there's no API for that MrAvaren, so it would be tricky to write and probably inaccurate |
| 21:03.05 | MrAvaren | ahh |
| 21:03.07 | Ellipsis | I don't know of anyone that's tried to do it |
| 21:03.08 | MrAvaren | just wondered |
| 21:03.16 | MrAvaren | a guy in my guild just cant fly |
| 21:03.26 | MrAvaren | in a horizontal line :/ |
| 21:03.27 | JoshBorke | i bet cryect could do it, he's real smart |
| 21:03.37 | JoshBorke | MrAvaren: have him type /console pitchlimit 0 |
| 21:03.47 | JoshBorke | then you can't fly in anything BUT a horizontal line |
| 21:04.04 | Zicon | mravaren: I use a speedometer addon to gauge when I'm flying straight. |
| 21:04.05 | MrAvaren | haha |
| 21:04.12 | Zicon | (I can't fly, either) |
| 21:04.22 | MrAvaren | i have that, i told him to try that but he complains its not good enough |
| 21:04.37 | MrAvaren | whats the default pitch so he can turn it back? |
| 21:04.51 | Ellipsis | there was PitchFu...I think that might be just your camera angle, but it could help him get straightened out |
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| 21:05.17 | CIA-7 | 03xska * r53008 10AceProfitFu/ (. AceProfitFu.lua AceProfitFu.toc): |
| 21:05.17 | CIA-7 | AceProfitFu: initial commit |
| 21:05.17 | CIA-7 | - FuBar plugin for AceProfit. Displays total value of junk in your bags and some statistics. |
| 21:05.55 | JoshBorke | MrAvaren: i think teh default is like 87 or something but it only lasts between reloads |
| 21:05.57 | smoke_ | does aceprofit put an autosell button? |
| 21:06.01 | smoke_ | where it sells all your junks? |
| 21:06.13 | Arrowmaster | nobody knows since that guy just uploaded it |
| 21:06.16 | Arrowmaster | and hes not in irc |
| 21:06.36 | Arrowmaster | because if he was he would be getting yelled at for uploading mods with Ace in the name |
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| 21:11.11 | CIA-7 | 03xska * r53009 10AceProfitFu/: |
| 21:11.11 | CIA-7 | AceProfitFu: |
| 21:11.11 | CIA-7 | - properties update |
| 21:12.10 | kenlyric | we need a smart mod that automagically destorys the cheapest grey items in your bags |
| 21:12.17 | smoke_ | autoprofit does that |
| 21:12.22 | smoke_ | its not an ace mod tho :/ |
| 21:12.37 | kenlyric | doesn't it just destroy all greys below a certain value? |
| 21:13.18 | smoke_ | it destroys all greys |
| 21:13.31 | kenlyric | so, doesn't do what I want. |
| 21:13.46 | smoke_ | what grey items would you even want to keep tho.. |
| 21:13.52 | smoke_ | im sure it has a filter feature too |
| 21:13.53 | kenlyric | everything but the cheapest one. |
| 21:14.17 | smoke_ | heh, i dont gt it, why keep the cheapest one? |
| 21:14.29 | MrAvaren | ok pitchlimit is great haha, loop the loops |
| 21:14.30 | kenlyric | *everything but the cheapest one |
| 21:14.43 | kenlyric | I want to keep every grey but the cheapest one. |
| 21:14.51 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53010 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassButton.lua: |
| 21:14.51 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 21:14.51 | CIA-7 | -- Add prefix to button frame name |
| 21:14.54 | CIA-7 | 03xska * r53011 10AceProfitFu/AceProfitFu.toc: |
| 21:14.54 | CIA-7 | AceProfitFu: |
| 21:14.54 | CIA-7 | - we don't need DewDrop |
| 21:15.00 | smoke_ | oh |
| 21:15.17 | ckknight | bbiab |
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| 21:15.30 | kenlyric | want it to happen magically when my bags get full |
| 21:15.53 | smoke_ | ohh |
| 21:16.01 | smoke_ | i get what you mean |
| 21:16.18 | smoke_ | dont think thats possible |
| 21:16.48 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: autoprofit can do that |
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| 21:19.35 | kenlyric | according to the curse description, autoprofit is for selling to the vendor. |
| 21:19.57 | RaydenUni | why are all of the screenshots on google posed? |
| 21:20.08 | RaydenUni | i need a screenshot of someone playing wow |
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| 21:20.17 | RaydenUni | with the camera at a normal playing height! |
| 21:22.34 | kenlyric | what do you mean? |
| 21:22.41 | kenlyric | zoomed all the way out? |
| 21:22.52 | RaydenUni | http://www.itreviews.co.uk/graphics/normal/games/g298.jpg |
| 21:22.55 | RaydenUni | something liek that |
| 21:23.13 | RaydenUni | http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/images.gamezone.com/screens/19/2/35/s19235_pc_40.jpg <-- as opposed to something like that |
| 21:23.54 | RaydenUni | i need an image to act as design art for a pitch document, so i'm looking for something that shows a similar interface |
| 21:26.04 | kenlyric | the default interface? |
| 21:26.50 | RaydenUni | the camera should be in a playable location though |
| 21:26.55 | RaydenUni | all of the screenshots i'm finding are posed |
| 21:27.44 | kenlyric | I've got lots of screenshots that aren't posed, but they're not the default UI. |
| 21:28.18 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 21:28.22 | RaydenUni | i don't need the default ai |
| 21:28.53 | pastamancer | http://kyle.13th-floor.org/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_022005_123022.jpg |
| 21:28.54 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I hate going through a whole description of what's causing a bug, and how we need to fix it, only to given a ten minute lecture about how something works (which i know already), and then told "so.. i think you're right"/ |
| 21:28.56 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/kenlyric_2007-03_watchingBBWredridinghood.jpg not posed at all :) |
| 21:28.58 | JoshBorke | i've got lots of screenshots |
| 21:29.02 | NightHawkTheSan1 | No fucking shit i'm right, i already told you this like ten minutes ago. |
| 21:30.57 | RaydenUni | preferable in combat with one or two mobs |
| 21:31.49 | Trell_ | zomg Portal is <3 |
| 21:31.59 | pastamancer | http://kyle.13th-floor.org/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_041105_203020.jpg |
| 21:32.02 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI2007-09-11_prettiest.jpg.jpg |
| 21:32.16 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: your UI is hideous |
| 21:32.18 | JoshBorke | and i hate you |
| 21:32.24 | pastamancer | haha |
| 21:32.37 | Ellipsis | soul shatter is my best friend |
| 21:32.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i must agree with JoshBorke here. |
| 21:32.47 | pastamancer | that's no mods right there |
| 21:32.54 | JoshBorke | it hurts, doesn't it? |
| 21:32.57 | JoshBorke | to have to agree with me |
| 21:33.00 | pastamancer | and actually... let me find the really horrible one |
| 21:33.12 | pastamancer | http://kyle.13th-floor.org/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_062806_203143.jpg |
| 21:33.16 | pastamancer | fear it |
| 21:33.19 | JoshBorke | http://gallery.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1684&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 21:33.28 | JoshBorke | that's MC, it doesn't count |
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| 21:34.04 | Trell_ | pastamancer, that is seizure inducing |
| 21:34.32 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: do you play the game too where all the warlocks in a 25man try to pull aggro then soulshatter while standing next to a certain person to get them killed? |
| 21:34.47 | RaydenUni | http://kyle.13th-floor.org/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_041105_203020.jpg <-- this one's not bad |
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| 21:34.48 | pastamancer | it got better... http://kyle.13th-floor.org/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_101806_232739.jpg |
| 21:35.08 | pastamancer | these days, all I have is Grid and fubar |
| 21:35.20 | JoshBorke | no clique? |
| 21:35.24 | pastamancer | oh, and clique |
| 21:35.29 | JoshBorke | praid is <3 |
| 21:35.33 | JoshBorke | do you use mendwatch? |
| 21:35.40 | pastamancer | shadow |
| 21:35.48 | JoshBorke | so? |
| 21:35.57 | pastamancer | oh, forgot about chronometer... use that for watching dots |
| 21:36.00 | JoshBorke | sometimes you have to heal :-) |
| 21:36.04 | JoshBorke | blech |
| 21:36.06 | pastamancer | I don't use mendwatch |
| 21:36.13 | JoshBorke | i only dot 1 thing so i just use quartz |
| 21:36.18 | kenlyric | I don't use mendwatch anymore |
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| 21:36.30 | kenlyric | Grid says MEND in bold letters. |
| 21:36.33 | pastamancer | quartz has spell timers? that's just... odd |
| 21:36.38 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53012 10PitBull_AltAura/ (options.lua update.lua): PitBull_AltAura: revert last changes, good idea, bad implementation |
| 21:36.41 | kenlyric | hmmm... with multiple holy priests that could be trouble |
| 21:36.45 | kenlyric | but, HAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:36.46 | pastamancer | I thought itwas a cast bar |
| 21:36.54 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: quartz has a target buff timers |
| 21:37.18 | pastamancer | SS? |
| 21:37.49 | JoshBorke | see the one i linked just now |
| 21:38.27 | JoshBorke | ooo, raining outside |
| 21:39.22 | pastamancer | hmm, do they disappear if you switch targets? |
| 21:39.27 | kenlyric | yes |
| 21:39.39 | kenlyric | well, for target they do. |
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| 21:40.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | There's target and focus buff/debuff timers, they only display for that particular unit, and only as long as that particular unit exists. |
| 21:40.44 | kenlyric | it's just like EBB, but without any options. |
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| 21:42.22 | pastamancer | oh, adding focus is nice |
| 21:42.38 | pastamancer | not that I've had to shackle in forever |
| 21:44.03 | JoshBorke | controlfreak = <3 |
| 21:45.03 | RaydenUni | i don't want to do homework |
| 21:45.05 | RaydenUni | i want to play wow |
| 21:47.28 | RaydenUni | so in my pitch doc i go over plot and characters, mission structure, combat mechanics, and your psionic abilities |
| 21:48.19 | kenlyric | shit, I have psionic abilities? |
| 21:48.20 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r53013 10ag_UnitFrames/ (. locales/ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua): ag_UnitFrames: bugfix targetting a boss |
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| 21:48.34 | RaydenUni | not you |
| 21:48.38 | RaydenUni | the character in my game |
| 21:48.40 | RaydenUni | :P |
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| 21:48.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ... does this mean i have to give back my psionic abilities? |
| 21:49.04 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 21:49.05 | RaydenUni | sorry |
| 21:49.16 | RaydenUni | you can keep your tooth paste related abilities though |
| 21:49.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ... can't i just use my psionic powers to kill you? |
| 21:49.40 | RaydenUni | how can you kill me, if you cannot psi? |
| 21:50.12 | kenlyric | crushed by air pressure |
| 21:50.25 | RaydenUni | time to go home! |
| 21:50.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I psi'd your mom. |
| 21:53.03 | Orionshock | well here goes nothing |
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| 21:54.27 | Orionshock | well 70% of normality is close enough after reinstalling wow & mods |
| 21:54.31 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r53014 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: comment some currently unused files |
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| 22:15.42 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53015 10Ace3/ (13 files in 13 dirs): Ace3 - setup LibStub externals |
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| 22:25.10 | CIA-7 | 03aviana * r53018 10Numen/NumenPopButtons.lua: |
| 22:25.10 | CIA-7 | Numen: |
| 22:25.10 | CIA-7 | - Raised the Framestrata of the Popup Buttons |
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| 22:28.18 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53019 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: Updated localization koKR |
| 22:28.18 | charon | evening |
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| 22:30.00 | Trell_ | I <3 Portal. |
| 22:30.08 | Nocts | :D so you got it |
| 22:30.10 | Nocts | Good |
| 22:30.23 | Trell_ | yup |
| 22:30.46 | Trell_ | the chat in each level is kinda humorous too |
| 22:30.48 | Nocts | Are you now thinking with Portals? |
| 22:30.52 | Trell_ | I am |
| 22:31.03 | Trell_ | and are you sure that they are lieing about the cake? |
| 22:31.11 | Ellipsis | the cake is a lie |
| 22:31.15 | Ellipsis | I don't care what you say |
| 22:31.16 | Trell_ | :'( |
| 22:31.20 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53020 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:31.20 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 22:31.20 | CIA-7 | - .Buff.Attack Damage |
| 22:31.20 | CIA-7 | - 23792 quest item |
| 22:31.20 | CIA-7 | - Add some more stuff to general buff group |
| 22:31.20 | Ellipsis | the cake is a lie, the cake is a lie, the cake is a lie... |
| 22:31.53 | Trell_ | i still think the 'If at first you don't succeed, you fail.' line is one of the best I've seen/heard in a game. |
| 22:31.59 | Nocts | Cake, and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all |
| 22:33.10 | Nocts | Stop what you are doing and assume the party escort submission position. |
| 22:33.41 | balstor | ~last wereHamster |
| 22:33.49 | balstor | ~seen wereHamster |
| 22:34.12 | purl | werehamster is currently on #wowi-lounge, last said: 'dsnoop is the capturing device\'. |
| 22:34.13 | Gnarfoz | uhhh wallops has rl drama |
| 22:34.13 | balstor | !seen wereHamster |
| 22:34.22 | Nocts | !cake werehamster |
| 22:34.54 | CIA-7 | 03sayclub * r53021 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 22:34.54 | CIA-7 | Grid: |
| 22:34.54 | CIA-7 | koKR typo fix |
| 22:35.08 | balstor | hmmm I wonder if that is the right peraon for healsync..... |
| 22:37.33 | Nocts | The symptoms most commonly produced by Enrichment Center testing are superstition, perceiving inanimate objects as alive, and hallucinations. The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. |
| 22:37.51 | Nocts | The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. |
| 22:38.35 | RaydenUni | the armory fails |
| 22:38.49 | Trell_ | Nocts, lol @ the last statement |
| 22:38.49 | RaydenUni | i can't compare my pants to someone else's because ti displays my pants off the edge of the screen |
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| 22:40.03 | Nocts | "i can't compare my pants to someone else's because ti displays my pants off the edge of the screen" |
| 22:40.07 | Nocts | That entire sentance wins the day |
| 22:40.26 | Nocts | You need to get your pants back, imo. |
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| 22:42.33 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53022 10AutoBar/ (7 files): |
| 22:42.33 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 22:42.33 | CIA-7 | -- Fix cyCircled init problems & initial style not setting. |
| 22:42.35 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53023 10Ace3/ (16 files in 15 dirs): Ace3 - Only have 1 copy of LibStub in the root folder for using Ace3 standalone, when embedding Ace3 or a Library into your addon make sure to also embed libstub. |
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| 22:44.38 | charon | Antiarc: ping |
| 22:44.44 | Antiarc | pong |
| 22:45.09 | charon | seems there's a weird issue with updating while in a raid, dunno if you want to look into that |
| 22:45.22 | charon | omen that is |
| 22:46.09 | Nocts | Trell_: I <3 portal, and portal <3' |
| 22:46.15 | Nocts | s cake. |
| 22:46.26 | Nocts | Okay, the enter key needs to remain hidden until I leave combat. |
| 22:46.55 | charon | a rogue had an old revision and wasn't shown on anyone's omen... then he updated and still wasn't, even on "show revisions"... then i reloaded too and could see him on "show revisions" but still no threat |
| 22:47.02 | charon | (gruul raid) |
| 22:47.36 | CIA-7 | 03starinnia * r53024 10SimpleMD/ (11 files): |
| 22:47.36 | CIA-7 | SimpleMD: |
| 22:47.36 | CIA-7 | - Removed PaintChips and CandyBar usage |
| 22:47.37 | CIA-7 | - New timer code added, bar font and texture fully customizable with SML |
| 22:47.38 | Nocts | Did he delete his previous omen settings? |
| 22:48.13 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53025 10Ace3/ (13 files in 13 dirs): Ace3 - Remove LibStub from the xml files since its not placed there. |
| 22:48.44 | charon | Nocts: hmm. probably not. there was plenty of confusion anyway |
| 22:51.33 | RaydenUni | spellstrike or battlecast for warlocks? |
| 22:51.39 | Ellipsis | spellstrike |
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| 22:52.20 | RaydenUni | who is battlecast for? |
| 22:52.34 | JoshBorke | anyone who wants stam |
| 22:52.37 | durcyn | for pvp, mostly |
| 22:52.45 | RaydenUni | wouldn't that be warlocks mostly? |
| 22:52.58 | JoshBorke | not in pve |
| 22:53.05 | RaydenUni | oh ok |
| 22:53.16 | Nocts | Difference between SharedMedia and LibsharedMedia-2.0? |
| 22:53.31 | Funkeh` | LibSharedMedia is standalone |
| 22:53.46 | RaydenUni | i need spellstrike... |
| 22:53.48 | Nocts | Explain? |
| 22:53.56 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53026 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Prototype.lua TheEye/Kaelthas.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 22:53.57 | Ellipsis | SharedMedia is textures, SharedMediaLib is the lib, and LibSharedMedia-2.0 is the newer version of the lib |
| 22:53.59 | Funkeh` | It uses LibStub not AceLibrary |
| 22:54.31 | Funkeh` | Hold on are you talking about SharedMedia or SharedMediaLib |
| 22:54.47 | Nocts | SharedMediaLib |
| 22:54.56 | Funkeh` | Then yes, my answer is correct |
| 22:55.15 | Ellipsis | Funkeh` is always right |
| 22:55.18 | Nocts | lol |
| 22:55.31 | Funkeh` | O_o |
| 22:55.33 | Ellipsis | do not question the Funkeh` |
| 22:55.34 | Nocts | So if I get SharedMedia, which dep is it linked to? |
| 22:55.41 | Nocts | SharedMedaiLib or LibSharedMedia? |
| 22:55.47 | nymbia | Funkeh` smells |
| 22:55.48 | CIA-7 | 03sayclub * r53027 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: |
| 22:55.48 | CIA-7 | LibDogTag-2.0: |
| 22:55.48 | CIA-7 | - added korean spell trees |
| 22:55.50 | Funkeh` | SharedMediaLib iirc |
| 22:55.56 | Ellipsis | smells like pine trees, in fact |
| 22:55.57 | Funkeh` | or maybe it works on both |
| 22:55.59 | Funkeh` | not sure |
| 22:56.05 | Ellipsis | and apple juice |
| 22:56.07 | Nocts | So LibSharedMedia does... nothing? |
| 22:56.28 | Funkeh` | LibSharedMedia does what SharedMediaLib does, but without AceLibrary |
| 22:56.31 | Funkeh` | which is good |
| 22:56.32 | durcyn | libsharedmedia is the library by which media is accessed |
| 22:56.45 | durcyn | it just doesn't include said media |
| 22:56.48 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53028 10DebuffAlarm/ (6 files): |
| 22:56.48 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: initial commit |
| 22:56.48 | CIA-7 | - Debuff alarm |
| 22:57.10 | Nocts | Sounds like SharedMediaLib is outdated then |
| 22:57.17 | |Stan| | it is |
| 22:57.23 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53029 10Ace3/LibStub/: Ace3 - actually point to the LibStub file >.< |
| 22:57.24 | Funkeh` | yes |
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| 22:57.43 | Nocts | This whole Ace/Rock thing is really starting to make me wonder about the portatility of projects. |
| 22:57.57 | Nocts | Too many crisscrosses and developers start getting lazy, dropping updates. |
| 22:59.31 | Funkeh` | Huh? |
| 22:59.58 | Funkeh` | LibStub doesn't depend on a framework, which means users of rock or ace ca sue the library, thats a good thing |
| 23:00.06 | Funkeh` | can use* |
| 23:00.37 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53030 10AutoBar/Core.lua: |
| 23:00.37 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 23:00.37 | CIA-7 | -- Fix broken keybindings |
| 23:06.39 | Nocts | Differences between simpleminimap and Squeenix? |
| 23:06.58 | RaydenUni | i use squeenix and not simpleminimap |
| 23:07.03 | RaydenUni | that's the only difference i know of |
| 23:07.08 | Ellipsis | I use simpleMinimap and not Squeenix |
| 23:07.17 | |Stan| | same |
| 23:07.42 | Ellipsis | no thanks, I don't PvP |
| 23:08.21 | RaydenUni | :( |
| 23:08.30 | |Stan| | ARRRRRRR |
| 23:08.44 | |Stan| | the korean broke LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 23:08.51 | Ellipsis | again? |
| 23:08.55 | |Stan| | YES! :/ |
| 23:08.59 | sedai| | i like squeenix |
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| 23:09.06 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53031 10Ace3/ (LibStub/ embeds.xml): Ace3 - using the tag version instead |
| 23:09.08 | sedai| | whats the difference between it and the latter |
| 23:09.13 | |Stan| | Message: ..\AddOns\LibDogTag-2.0\LibDogTag-2.0.lua line 428: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 23:09.30 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: could you fix that please? :( |
| 23:09.35 | Nocts | Ellipsis: Well if you use it, that's sex in a bag |
| 23:09.44 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 23:10.35 | Fin | unlucky |
| 23:10.36 | sedai| | whats the difference between simpleminimap and squeenix? |
| 23:10.52 | Fin | features |
| 23:10.55 | Fin | SMM has more |
| 23:10.59 | sedai| | ooh |
| 23:11.07 | sedai| | so it can do what squeenix does? |
| 23:11.12 | sedai| | and more |
| 23:11.14 | Arrowmaster | everything |
| 23:11.17 | Fin | basically |
| 23:11.21 | sedai| | nice, ill have to check that out |
| 23:12.40 | Funkeh` | More isn't always better |
| 23:13.00 | Fin | moar is, though |
| 23:15.15 | Ellipsis | giev moar? |
| 23:15.55 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53032 10DebuffAlarm/: |
| 23:15.55 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 23:15.55 | CIA-7 | - externals |
| 23:15.58 | |Stan| | why don't those korean/chinese guys test their stuff before they commit :/ |
| 23:16.31 | Xelopheris | k, since I'm still slightly drunk, how do you do an or in a dogtag? |
| 23:16.41 | [dRaCo] | they dunno how to do that :> |
| 23:17.05 | |Stan| | :( |
| 23:21.56 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53033 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (. LibDogTag-2.0.lua): LibDogTag-2.0: never ever make untested changes to libraries, that applies to you also, translators. |
| 23:22.10 | Ellipsis | ty Funkeh` <3 |
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| 23:23.19 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: <3 |
| 23:23.40 | tinyboom | do they ever check the commits though? :p |
| 23:23.58 | Ellipsis | no wai |Stan|, Funkeh` is mine |
| 23:24.08 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53034 10DebuffAlarm/: |
| 23:24.08 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 23:24.08 | CIA-7 | - Fix typos in externals |
| 23:26.38 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53035 10Ace3/LibStub/: Ace3 - another externals fix |
| 23:26.52 | CIA-7 | 03sayclub * r53036 10Automaton/modules/Queue.lua: |
| 23:26.52 | CIA-7 | Automaton: |
| 23:26.52 | CIA-7 | - koKR updated |
| 23:28.49 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53037 10DebuffAlarm/: |
| 23:28.49 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 23:28.49 | CIA-7 | - More typos |
| 23:32.55 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53038 10DebuffAlarm/: |
| 23:32.55 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 23:32.55 | CIA-7 | - One last typo |
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| 23:33.56 | CIA-7 | 03sayclub * r53039 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: |
| 23:33.56 | CIA-7 | LibDogTag-2.0: |
| 23:33.56 | CIA-7 | - Sorry, koKR comma fix |
| 23:34.32 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 23:34.37 | |Stan| | lol |
| 23:34.58 | Marli | Autobar bugs out so fucking often |
| 23:35.03 | Marli | So frustrating |
| 23:35.05 | Toadkiller | in what way? |
| 23:35.13 | Marli | Hotkeys just stop working |
| 23:35.34 | Toadkiller | yes dl the latest version |
| 23:35.34 | Marli | It basically freezes, wont update when you run out of an item and the keybinds dont work |
| 23:35.49 | Marli | Relog has always fixed it in the past |
| 23:35.54 | Marli | Now mine just will not work |
| 23:37.24 | Toadkiller | so dl the latest vbersion to get keybinds they were temporarily broken... |
| 23:37.38 | Marli | I just did :) |
| 23:37.53 | Marli | Latest version.. |
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| 23:43.00 | Toadkiller | so when you bring up the config what is the build number? |
| 23:43.41 | Marli | 53030 |
| 23:43.55 | Marli | i totally deleted it and redownloaded |
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| 23:43.58 | Marli | works now |
| 23:44.01 | Toadkiller | all right & your keybinds do not work? |
| 23:44.09 | Marli | They didnt.. |
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| 23:44.19 | Marli | They do now |
| 23:44.33 | Mudkipz | amg what happened? |
| 23:44.41 | Ellipsis | u |
| 23:44.52 | Mudkipz | pitbull is totally borkd |
| 23:45.06 | |Stan| | DogTag 2 got blown up |
| 23:45.15 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53040 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 23:45.15 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:45.15 | CIA-7 | - Added deDE Alchemy recipes (thanks Nacor) |
| 23:45.23 | Ellipsis | it's the koreans again |
| 23:45.46 | Toadkiller | ok as a temporary workaround can you click on refresh in the AutoBar options to fix it? |
| 23:45.48 | Mudkipz | =[ |
| 23:46.23 | [dRaCo] | could someone please revoke their svn rights? |
| 23:47.25 | Mudkipz | back go ag_uf for now |
| 23:47.31 | Mudkipz | raid in 45mins |
| 23:47.44 | Mudkipz | QQ |
| 23:47.50 | RogueShadow | I can't believe I never noticed. Revisions go up per commit, no matter what addon it is. |
| 23:47.57 | Mudkipz | oh and Ellipsis, diaf ;] |
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| 23:48.17 | Mudkipz | o wait, that's not funny |
| 23:48.33 | Mudkipz | http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07432/lolmountainfire.jpg |
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| 23:50.15 | Ackis | best way to get a global variable is _G["Name"] correct? |
| 23:50.45 | Mudkipz | does anyone have a working copy of dogtag? |
| 23:50.55 | Mudkipz | my noobself didn't backup |
| 23:50.56 | Diao | Kemayo: i found out what's wrong.. it only updates when a partial objective is complete rather than on each update (like if we need 10 items, 1-9 won't show up, but when they complete it, it will show up) |
| 23:51.38 | Ackis | Mudkipz: there's a fight in wow where you can tell people to DIAF and it not be an insult... archimonde lol |
| 23:52.24 | nymbia | Mudkipz: there's old versions on files.wowace, or just use svn if you're so inclined |
| 23:52.49 | Ellipsis | Mudkipz: I c wat u did thar |
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| 23:52.57 | Ellipsis | and I love you anyway <3 |
| 23:53.37 | kebinusan | damn kokr update broke libdogtag |
| 23:53.58 | Ellipsis | we know |
| 23:54.12 | kebinusan | someone fixing it or shall I |
| 23:54.24 | Ellipsis | Funkeh` fixed it once, then the korean messed with it again |
| 23:54.28 | Ellipsis | it may or may not currently be broken |
| 23:54.44 | kebinusan | seems currently broken |
| 23:54.48 | Ellipsis | then have fun |
| 23:54.56 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53041 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.toc: |
| 23:54.56 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 23:54.56 | CIA-7 | - Changed the description |
| 23:55.15 | charon | how could a fire mage with +855 fire dmg possibly do _60%_ of a _rogue's_ damage on gruul? |
| 23:55.38 | charon | or asked differently... if i link WWS, could a mage look into it and tell me what i'm supposed to tell her she's doing wrong? |
| 23:55.38 | JoshBorke | he sucks |
| 23:55.49 | charon | http://wowwebstats.com/hp6azve5afhbu?s=5031-5457&a=12 |
| 23:55.56 | hyperChipmunk | died 20% into the fight |
| 23:56.06 | charon | i haven't played mage since BWL times |
| 23:56.08 | charon | umm |
| 23:56.16 | CIA-7 | 03kebinusan * r53042 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0: Fix crazy translation breakage |
| 23:56.54 | Mudkipz | I was referring to IRL Ackis |
| 23:56.54 | Mudkipz | :P |
| 23:56.57 | charon | hyperChipmunk: no. definitely not. MT died before her! |
| 23:57.10 | Fin | awesome |
| 23:57.11 | Ackis | there is no irl... wow is everything! lol |
| 23:57.17 | Fin | that new WoW comic looks really good |
| 23:57.40 | kebinusan | there we go much better |
| 23:57.48 | Ellipsis | kebinusan <3 |
| 23:57.48 | Fin | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2007/10/12/exclusive-look-first-world-of-warcraft-comic-pages-writer-says-its-true-to-game/ |
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| 23:58.06 | Fin | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/wow_comic_jimleecover.thumbnail.jpg |
| 23:58.10 | Fin | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/wow_comic_page1.thumbnail.jpg |
| 23:58.18 | Fin | er |
| 23:58.19 | Fin | I mean |
| 23:58.20 | Fin | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/wow_comic_page1.jpg |
| 23:58.26 | Fin | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/wow_comic_page2.jpg |
| 23:58.30 | Fin | up to 5 |
| 23:59.36 | Mudkipz | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2007/ |
| 23:59.38 | Mudkipz | haha no thanks |
