| 00:00.00 | Xinhuan | 3 of which are wisps |
| 00:00.01 | Ackis | ever play kingdom of loathing? |
| 00:00.08 | Ellipsis | KoL is win |
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| 00:00.16 | Xinhuan | unfortunately, i tried to use it on our MT today while in combat |
| 00:00.22 | Xinhuan | and it said "Cannot use while in combat" |
| 00:00.24 | Xinhuan | what a hater |
| 00:00.27 | Ellipsis | yeah =[ |
| 00:00.38 | NivFreak | We had some PUG wipe us in ZA on the PTR last night |
| 00:00.44 | Ackis | if you could use wands in combat, it'd be better than a bop rotation on rogues |
| 00:00.49 | NivFreak | we had a rogue stealthing up to the bear troll |
| 00:00.53 | NivFreak | and he used a magic wand on him |
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| 00:00.55 | NivFreak | which broke stealth |
| 00:01.00 | NivFreak | and agro'd the boss |
| 00:01.02 | Xinhuan | OWNED! |
| 00:01.04 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 00:01.08 | Xinhuan | i have a better story |
| 00:01.10 | NivFreak | it was pretty lame |
| 00:01.13 | Xinhuan | you know the item called Elune's Candle? |
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| 00:01.30 | Xinhuan | Use: Shoots a firework at target |
| 00:01.35 | Xinhuan | and you know Snowballs? |
| 00:01.40 | Xinhuan | well, we have a rogue |
| 00:01.49 | NivFreak | I have an alt full of snowballs |
| 00:01.52 | Xinhuan | he thought that Elune's Candle works like snowballs |
| 00:02.00 | Xinhuan | and you can throw them at NPCs without aggroing them |
| 00:02.13 | Xinhuan | so he threw a couple of snowballs at Vaelastraz |
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| 00:02.22 | Xinhuan | then decided on vent, HEY lets throw fireworks at Vael! |
| 00:02.27 | Xinhuan | he shoots the firework |
| 00:02.28 | Ackis | lol |
| 00:02.30 | Xinhuan | and vael kills him |
| 00:02.32 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:02.34 | Xinhuan | and the raid, in 5 seconds. |
| 00:02.49 | NivFreak | I didn't know you could hit bosses with snowballs and not aggro them |
| 00:02.52 | Ackis | why is it that vael is the scene of so many screw ups like that? lol |
| 00:02.52 | Xinhuan | fastest wipe ever |
| 00:03.04 | Xinhuan | we all went.. WTF |
| 00:03.13 | Xinhuan | because the corpse run is annoying |
| 00:03.25 | Arrowmaster | we had this moron warlock walk right through the middle of vael when we were setting up after a wipe once |
| 00:03.48 | Arrowmaster | she blamed it on click to walk |
| 00:03.58 | Xinhuan | hahahahha |
| 00:04.03 | Xinhuan | i have another one |
| 00:04.07 | Xinhuan | remember aQ40? |
| 00:04.10 | Xinhuan | long boring tunnels |
| 00:04.12 | Xinhuan | and twin emps |
| 00:04.17 | Xinhuan | so after a wipe |
| 00:04.25 | Xinhuan | everyone was corpse running through the long boring tunnels |
| 00:04.26 | Arrowmaster | i did the huhu corpse run too many times |
| 00:04.31 | Xinhuan | to twin emps |
| 00:04.40 | Xinhuan | so we have this warlock who were summoning people to the twin emps room |
| 00:04.45 | Xinhuan | he summoned this guy |
| 00:04.46 | Ackis | Xinhuan, didn't you make the recruits let everyone auto-follow them? |
| 00:04.47 | Bejitt | Xinhuan: then someone ran into a boss |
| 00:04.53 | [gk]Hotphoenix | have a tank that autoran into hyjal trash waves today while breathing heavy into his mic on vent, we didn't even ask what he was doing |
| 00:05.04 | Xinhuan | well, you know how if you have auto-run on, when you accept a summon, you get teleported and continue to run? |
| 00:05.10 | Bejitt | haha yea |
| 00:05.11 | Xinhuan | well he ran straight into the boss |
| 00:05.14 | Bejitt | hahaha |
| 00:05.17 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 00:05.24 | Bejitt | we always had people who couldnt remember how to get down |
| 00:05.26 | Xinhuan | and umm, his computer was so shit twin emps didn't load until he had died |
| 00:05.29 | Bejitt | so they'd take lefts.... |
| 00:05.35 | Xinhuan | then twin emps decided to kill everyone in the room |
| 00:05.43 | Xinhuan | run out of the room to kill ppl that have not reached twin emps room |
| 00:05.47 | Xinhuan | then despawn for 30 minutes |
| 00:05.48 | Bejitt | haha yea |
| 00:06.03 | Bejitt | Visc liked to teleport everyone to him |
| 00:06.16 | Bejitt | had a few Ouro encounters like that too |
| 00:06.22 | Xinhuan | i have yet another amusing story |
| 00:06.31 | Xinhuan | there is a guild on my server |
| 00:06.35 | Xinhuan | they were doing cthun |
| 00:06.48 | Xinhuan | somehow or other, one of them gave their raid ID away |
| 00:06.50 | Bejitt | i quickly learned to make inventory space for my gear + itemrack def for nekkid |
| 00:06.52 | Xinhuan | so that their 40th couldn't zone in |
| 00:06.54 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53135 10Transcriptor/ (Core.lua Transcriptor.toc embeds.xml libs/): Transcriptor: use gametooltip, ditch tablet |
| 00:07.01 | Xinhuan | so they were like "i can't zone in" why? |
| 00:07.10 | Xinhuan | so there were also some 5 guilds in aq40 at that time |
| 00:07.17 | Bejitt | o.O |
| 00:07.19 | Xinhuan | and they couldn't really tell who was their 40th |
| 00:07.23 | Xinhuan | from a /who |
| 00:07.23 | Bejitt | haha |
| 00:07.29 | Xinhuan | so they decided to 39-man cthun |
| 00:07.39 | Arrowmaster | with FFA loot on? |
| 00:07.43 | Xinhuan | in the middle of their cthun fight, while cthun was on about half health |
| 00:07.48 | Xinhuan | the 40th guy |
| 00:07.50 | Xinhuan | aggroed Ouro |
| 00:07.52 | Xinhuan | died. |
| 00:07.54 | Bejitt | hahahaha |
| 00:07.58 | Xinhuan | Ouro burrowed all the way to cthun's room |
| 00:08.00 | Xinhuan | and emerged |
| 00:08.02 | Bejitt | hahaha nice |
| 00:08.03 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:08.07 | Xinhuan | just as "Big Claw Incoming" |
| 00:08.10 | Bejitt | the stomach grew a penis |
| 00:08.11 | Xinhuan | or Big tentacle |
| 00:08.15 | Xinhuan | whatever you want to call it |
| 00:08.23 | Xinhuan | it was certainly a BIG tentacle alright! |
| 00:08.26 | Bejitt | hahaha |
| 00:08.27 | Ackis | lmao |
| 00:09.02 | Xinhuan | i heard it was an interesting wipe :) |
| 00:09.25 | Bejitt | i bet |
| 00:09.34 | Xinhuan | the 40th guy turned out to be a random from some scrub guild, that one of their members had sold the raid ID to |
| 00:09.42 | Bejitt | hahaha |
| 00:09.50 | Xinhuan | to get the "quest guy" behind cthun |
| 00:09.55 | Bejitt | ahhh |
| 00:10.14 | Arrowmaster | theres a quest guy behind cthun? |
| 00:10.22 | Bejitt | more like... in front of |
| 00:10.26 | Xinhuan | yeah the qiraji armaments thingo |
| 00:10.40 | Arrowmaster | i never did past huhu |
| 00:10.52 | Xinhuan | the bosses drop 2 possible quest items |
| 00:10.57 | Xinhuan | that turn in for weapons |
| 00:11.03 | Arrowmaster | since my guild only killed the bug trio before we stoped raiding |
| 00:11.04 | Xinhuan | to the npc next to cthun |
| 00:11.27 | Arrowmaster | did aq40 with other guilds a few times though but never past huhu |
| 00:11.46 | Ackis | hmm... would there be any reason anyone knows why the scroll up button doesn't work, yet the scroll down button does? |
| 00:12.20 | poxk | notting to scroll up to :p |
| 00:12.54 | Ackis | lol :P |
| 00:14.30 | Bejitt | i backed into the drakes as we were doing the trash once >_> |
| 00:14.34 | Bejitt | 'back up' is relative |
| 00:16.24 | CIA-7 | 03daviesh * r53136 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:16.24 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:16.24 | CIA-7 | - Arena Season 3 items now available via the Atlas interface, rejigged the PvP Menu and cleaned up the sets menu code. |
| 00:17.32 | Bejitt | eh... AceDebug as a required dependency in a lib? >_< |
| 00:19.05 | Speeddymon_ | ok how the crap do you replace your backpack with a bigger bag (like primal mooncloth)? |
| 00:19.20 | Xinhuan | you can't |
| 00:19.26 | Xinhuan | you're stuck with the 16 slotter |
| 00:19.37 | Speeddymon_ | thats gimp |
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| 00:21.23 | SunTsu | Speeddymon_: The saying is, there may be a outfitter-like functionality in WotLK, which won't take up space in the inventory |
| 00:21.50 | Ackis | you can't change your backpack |
| 00:22.13 | SunTsu | Speeddymon_: This woul really ease the space needs |
| 00:22.20 | SunTsu | s/woul/&d/ |
| 00:22.38 | SunTsu | purl: You suck at regexp *ducks and runs away* |
| 00:22.59 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 00:24.37 | abug | ... |
| 00:24.56 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: At least sed knows what I mean ;) |
| 00:25.32 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, it'd be neat if your backpack expanded with level,. |
| 00:25.51 | NightHawkTheSane | say 16 slots level 1-60, 18 slots 61-70, 20 slots 71-80 |
| 00:25.55 | CIA-7 | 03stan * r53137 10WoWEquip/localization.deDE.lua: WoWEquip: - deDE Update |
| 00:26.33 | poxk | limited bagspace is just a silly restriction, keyring like ftw |
| 00:26.57 | Bejitt | do i have to add _all_ the embeds that i have in svn:embeds to X-Embeds? like the ones that only the embeded libraries use |
| 00:27.03 | Arrowmaster | need a fucking quest item bag like the keyring |
| 00:27.14 | Xinhuan | learn2managebagspace |
| 00:27.23 | NeoTron | so our second KT kill |
| 00:27.25 | Xinhuan | and throw away your T1, T2 and T2.5 sets already |
| 00:27.30 | Bejitt | Xinhuan: but but... preBC gear! |
| 00:27.35 | poxk | Xinhuan: never! |
| 00:27.36 | NeoTron | we came in with 2-3 entirely green people and 5-6 ppl that had been there a few times but not much |
| 00:27.36 | SunTsu | poxk: I think it is OK to limit bag space. Just having all 20er bags and still clinging to a 16 slot bagpack... |
| 00:27.42 | NeoTron | and wiped just twice before the kill |
| 00:27.49 | Xinhuan | i know people that complain complain complain about bag space, and when i ask "do you still keep your 8/8 t1 and t2?" |
| 00:27.51 | Arrowmaster | *cry* i vendored some of my T0 today |
| 00:27.52 | Xinhuan | and they tell me "yes" |
| 00:27.56 | Xelopheris | k, in Baggins, I added a bag with the default category BankBags, set it to a bank bag, and it doesn't load bank items |
| 00:28.05 | poxk | i even keep t0 and t0.5 :p |
| 00:28.06 | Xinhuan | so i go, "cry me a river" :D |
| 00:28.23 | poxk | collecting ftw |
| 00:28.34 | poxk | missing 1 part t3 that hurting me :( |
| 00:28.39 | Mudkipz | so |
| 00:28.42 | Mudkipz | Xinhuan |
| 00:28.43 | Xinhuan | which part? ring? |
| 00:28.44 | Bejitt | i vendored everything but AQ40+ gear... minus the epic recipe :O |
| 00:28.50 | SunTsu | Xelopheris: I had that one. Had to reload ui, afterwards it worked |
| 00:28.56 | Mudkipz | find any of those JC onry gems yet? |
| 00:28.59 | SunTsu | once even |
| 00:29.04 | Mudkipz | the only ones I have are vendor bought |
| 00:29.17 | Xinhuan | the ones that aren't vendor bought aren't in the game |
| 00:29.24 | Xinhuan | you can't even sniff the pattern |
| 00:29.25 | Mudkipz | figures |
| 00:29.36 | Mudkipz | I got tooltip screenshots though |
| 00:29.36 | Mudkipz | wtf |
| 00:29.40 | Mudkipz | so it was only on the ptr? |
| 00:29.43 | Xinhuan | you can sniff the gem |
| 00:29.48 | Xinhuan | but not the design recipe |
| 00:29.53 | Mudkipz | aha |
| 00:30.01 | Mudkipz | I'm kinda dissapointed |
| 00:30.09 | Xinhuan | its like how you can sniff |
| 00:30.09 | Mudkipz | the only one I use is 18 stam |
| 00:30.11 | SunTsu | I really would appreciate if there was some outfitter-like functionality without using bag space for equipment anymore. |
| 00:30.14 | Mudkipz | and that's it |
| 00:30.24 | Xinhuan | gem IDs 28389 and 28388 |
| 00:30.26 | Xinhuan | go try it |
| 00:30.29 | Mudkipz | the rest is not worth anythingn to me |
| 00:30.32 | Xinhuan | all gems are sniffable |
| 00:30.36 | Mudkipz | how do you do that? |
| 00:30.50 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I vendored part of my T1 set on my priest long before TBC hit |
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| 00:30.59 | backbone87 | ckknight: ping |
| 00:31.00 | Xinhuan | well go do a GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:28388") |
| 00:31.05 | Ackis | TBH, I hope they make the next raid require frost, nature, shadow, fire and arcane resist sets |
| 00:31.06 | NeoTron | since the only reason to keep it was to buff PoH which was something I MAYBE used in one fight |
| 00:31.09 | ckknight | backbone87, pong |
| 00:31.16 | Mudkipz | ./script before that? |
| 00:31.19 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 00:31.20 | backbone87 | ckknight: how fast is your comm lib? |
| 00:31.28 | Xinhuan | hover your mouse over something that shows a gametooltip too |
| 00:31.31 | Xinhuan | before you do that |
| 00:31.34 | ckknight | how do you mean, fast? |
| 00:31.38 | Xinhuan | like a macro button |
| 00:31.40 | ckknight | cpu usage or bandwidth speed? |
| 00:31.56 | backbone87 | ckknight: bandwidth |
| 00:32.15 | ckknight | it's arbitrarily limited by Blizzard, so you know |
| 00:32.28 | backbone87 | so latency * 2? |
| 00:32.34 | Xinhuan | you can also sniff itemIDs 23364 and 23366, you'll find interesting gems at those itemIDs |
| 00:32.35 | ckknight | oh, that |
| 00:32.55 | ckknight | backbone87, well, it depends on how much you've sent. If you send a lot of data, then it will throttle back |
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| 00:33.07 | ckknight | backbone87, if you're sending small messages, though, it's just the latency time |
| 00:33.19 | Mudkipz | it only comes up a split second Xinhuan |
| 00:33.24 | Mudkipz | barely recognizable |
| 00:33.32 | Xinhuan | hover over a macro button rather than a spell |
| 00:33.35 | backbone87 | yeah let say 50byte string |
| 00:33.37 | Xinhuan | on your action bar |
| 00:34.13 | Xinhuan | cos of internal blizzard code, they reupdate the tooltip every 0.9 seconds except for macros |
| 00:34.31 | backbone87 | ckknight: i dont know, whether the chat strings are encoded with unicode |
| 00:34.44 | Mudkipz | but isn't 20 attack power in game? |
| 00:34.54 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53138 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 00:34.54 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:34.54 | CIA-7 | - Possible scroll bar fix |
| 00:34.55 | Xinhuan | well try it for itemIDs 23364 and 23366 |
| 00:34.56 | ckknight | backbone87, no, it's just bitstrings, pretty much |
| 00:35.04 | Mudkipz | ohi wait |
| 00:35.06 | ckknight | no arbitrary encoding |
| 00:35.06 | Mudkipz | I have 24 ap |
| 00:35.17 | backbone87 | kk |
| 00:35.26 | Mudkipz | got the one for agility Xinhuan? |
| 00:36.04 | Xinhuan | basically blizz server handles gems a bit differently |
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| 00:36.07 | Xinhuan | they all get loaded |
| 00:36.16 | Xinhuan | so you can query the server for any/all gems |
| 00:36.16 | backbone87 | so discuss: arena target event system via focus target event "forwarding" |
| 00:36.21 | Xinhuan | including the epic ones |
| 00:36.55 | Bejitt | so, do i have to add _all_ the embeds that i have in svn:embeds to X-Embeds? like the ones that only the embeded libraries use |
| 00:37.23 | Bejitt | dunno if that's overkill or not |
| 00:37.43 | Xinhuan | Bejitt: all X-Embeds does is to tell AceLibrary to enable all the listed libaries (EnableAddon()) if they aren't already enabled in the char selection screen |
| 00:37.55 | Ellipsis | man, pugs are so screwed up in TBC |
| 00:38.00 | Bejitt | hmm ok |
| 00:38.06 | Xinhuan | if they are unembedded that is |
| 00:38.10 | Bejitt | yea |
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| 00:38.22 | Ellipsis | it used to be easy to tell what your group was doing just from the class makeup |
| 00:38.28 | Xinhuan | so as a rule of thumb, just list them in X-Embeds in the order you expect them to load in |
| 00:38.33 | Ellipsis | but now it's like, the priest and warr are DPS, the druid is tanking.... |
| 00:38.35 | Xinhuan | and they should match the folder name |
| 00:38.51 | Xinhuan | so WindowLib should be listed as WindowLib and not WindowLib-1.0 |
| 00:38.56 | Xinhuan | or Window-1.0 whatever it is |
| 00:38.56 | Bejitt | yea |
| 00:39.28 | Xinhuan | its also a deprecated field in ace3/rock so i dont think anyone cares |
| 00:39.47 | Bejitt | if they're un-embedded, then they should have/load their dependencies tho right? |
| 00:39.58 | Arrowmaster | X-Embeds is not used by AceLibrary afaik |
| 00:40.03 | Arrowmaster | its used by WAU |
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| 00:40.30 | Xinhuan | are you sure? |
| 00:40.40 | Xinhuan | i know ace2 enables and loads libraries |
| 00:40.45 | Arrowmaster | theres an X-AceLibrary thats used by acelibrary |
| 00:40.47 | Xinhuan | but is it because of x-embeds? |
| 00:41.13 | Arrowmaster | its not because of x-embeds |
| 00:41.23 | Arrowmaster | because x-embeds may exist without the embeds being there |
| 00:41.38 | Xinhuan | alright, then just a wau feature |
| 00:41.46 | Xinhuan | for listing embeds |
| 00:42.01 | Arrowmaster | its used by wau for getting the right librarys |
| 00:42.05 | Arrowmaster | not just listing |
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| 00:44.36 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6} print(#t) t[6] = nil print(#t) t[2] = nil print(#t) |
| 00:44.36 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 6, 5, 5 |
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| 00:45.24 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6} print(#t) for k = #t, 1, -1 do t[k] = nil end print(#t) |
| 00:45.24 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 6, 0 |
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| 00:46.15 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6} t[10] = 10 print(#t) |
| 00:46.15 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 6 |
| 00:46.35 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6} t[7] = 7 print(#t) |
| 00:46.35 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 7 |
| 00:46.44 | Xinhuan | hmm maybe i shouldn't use tinsert() |
| 00:47.22 | Xinhuan | should just increment a counter and assign |
| 00:47.36 | Ackis | !c us gurubashi ackis |
| 00:47.52 | CIA-7 | 03shieldb * r53139 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: Update BT Trash linking |
| 00:47.53 | Ackis | well how did i screw that up? |
| 00:48.14 | Xinhuan | you didn't |
| 00:48.18 | Xinhuan | bot is merely not in the channel |
| 00:48.22 | Ackis | ahh |
| 00:48.38 | Xinhuan | however you can type !armory ackis gurubashi |
| 00:48.45 | Xinhuan | and i'll generate a link to the armory |
| 00:48.54 | Xinhuan | only works for us ;p |
| 00:49.07 | Ackis | i don't really like armory =/ too slow for me :( |
| 00:49.17 | Xinhuan | its been sped up 1-2 months ago |
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| 00:49.20 | Xinhuan | so its actually decent |
| 00:49.33 | Ackis | it's not the backend, it's the processing of it in my web-browser |
| 00:49.45 | Ackis | my system just doesn't like it |
| 00:49.50 | CIA-7 | 03ominous * r53140 10Tattle/ (22 files in 22 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 00:50.00 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53141 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.toc: |
| 00:50.00 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 00:50.00 | CIA-7 | - OptionalDeps and X-Embeds |
| 00:51.11 | Ellipsis | armory makes my firefox hang if I have more than two tabs of it open at once :/ |
| 00:51.26 | Ackis | i've got a slow mofo computer |
| 00:52.20 | Xinhuan | if i am regularly performing |
| 00:52.22 | Xinhuan | strfind(strlower(itemName), findText, 1, true) |
| 00:52.34 | Xinhuan | is it worthwhile to cache strlower(itemName) ? |
| 01:02.18 | NeoTron | how often is is regularly here? |
| 01:02.38 | NeoTron | and perhasps better yet, what would the expectec cache hit ratio be? |
| 01:02.41 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53142 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs): LibSharedMedia-2.0: split LibStub to a separate file |
| 01:04.04 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53143 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 01:04.04 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 01:04.04 | CIA-7 | - Added Runed Crimson Spinel, Great Golden Draenite |
| 01:05.01 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53144 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 01:05.01 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:05.01 | CIA-7 | - Added Runed Crimson Spinel, Great Golden Draenite |
| 01:05.01 | CIA-7 | - Fixed some JC recipes which were listed as uncommon drops and are really rare drops |
| 01:07.08 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53145 10Ace3/LibStub/: Ace3 - removed external |
| 01:09.46 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53146 10Ace3/ (Ace3.toc LibStub/1.0/ LibStub/1.0/LibStub.lua): Ace3 - add file |
| 01:11.46 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r53147 10Spyglass/ (. Spyglass.toc core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 01:11.46 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 01:11.46 | CIA-7 | - Fixed embeds. Works solo with externals now. |
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| 01:14.27 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r53148 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua WoWEquipData.lua): WoWEquip: - Optimize the equipment searching/filtering slightly. |
| 01:15.07 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: You were saying good things about Baggins earlier... is there a version of it without the niggling flaws? (Several options just don't do anything.) |
| 01:15.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: i'm not sure what you mean by 'niggling flaws', i havn't had any issues with it.. |
| 01:16.09 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: The "hide default bank" and "scale" options don't seem to actually affect anything. |
| 01:16.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: o_0 i havn't messed with scale, i don't think, but last i checked, hide default bank was working just fine for me |
| 01:17.06 | Kemayo | Hm. |
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| 01:19.36 | Diao | i think it is time for me to finally ditch the old autobar |
| 01:19.38 | Diao | and update |
| 01:20.51 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: Never mind, I deleted my saved variables and the bank is working. |
| 01:21.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
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| 01:23.17 | Trell_ | anyone know much about steam games, or can point me in the direction of an irc chan where they might? |
| 01:23.25 | Trell_ | im having a problem with the chat client |
| 01:23.37 | `Zypher | =/ |
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| 01:23.53 | Diao | uhh |
| 01:23.58 | Diao | anyone know on autobar how to move buttons around? |
| 01:24.01 | Diao | i enabled "move buttons" |
| 01:24.05 | Diao | but click/drag doesn't seem to work |
| 01:24.17 | `Zypher | @Everyone: does anyone know if there is a planed version of WAU2 for *nix? |
| 01:24.33 | Diao | or wait |
| 01:24.35 | Diao | nm i found it |
| 01:31.40 | `Zypher | anyone out there? |
| 01:31.46 | Ellipsis | `Zypher: isn't WAU2 java? |
| 01:32.46 | `Zypher | yes, but ive been trying to get it to run |
| 01:33.02 | `Zypher | and i looked at the JNLP file |
| 01:33.24 | `Zypher | doesn't look like it supports any type of linux |
| 01:33.55 | `Zypher | i get the splash then zilch |
| 01:34.59 | backbone87 | ckknight: can i simply do Rock("LibRockComm-1.0"):Embed(myLib) to embed a library to my own? or is something damaged with this? |
| 01:35.18 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:35.23 | Diao | autobar config is rather confusing |
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| 01:35.59 | backbone87 | ckknight_: can i simply do Rock("LibRockComm-1.0"):Embed(myLib) to embed a library to my own? or is something damaged with this? |
| 01:37.19 | Diao | hey Toadkiller what's "recovery" as a category? |
| 01:40.15 | Diao | or anyone who knows |
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| 01:44.13 | ckknight_ | backbone87, that's fine. |
| 01:44.23 | backbone87 | kk thx |
| 01:44.58 | backbone87 | there is no "direct" way to embed other libs into my own? |
| 01:45.08 | Ellipsis | how much more direct can you get? |
| 01:45.11 | Xinhuan | backbone87: that's about as direct as yu can get;p |
| 01:45.16 | backbone87 | kk :) |
| 01:45.45 | Xinhuan | or you can just call LibRockComm.blah(MyLib, ...) |
| 01:45.53 | Xinhuan | as a twisted function call alternative |
| 01:45.56 | ckknight | no, Xinhuan |
| 01:45.59 | ckknight | that'd fuck it up |
| 01:46.02 | ckknight | you're supposed to use :Embed |
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| 01:46.11 | Xinhuan | it worked on acecomm though |
| 01:46.15 | Xinhuan | but i supposed yu changed stuff |
| 01:46.38 | ckknight | no, AceComm gets fucked the same way |
| 01:46.40 | backbone87 | no problem i use the embed method |
| 01:47.29 | Xinhuan | meh, wowace really needs a way for us to see download counts |
| 01:47.44 | Xinhuan | i want to know how many times my addons have been downloaded :) |
| 01:47.59 | `Zypher | epeen whore |
| 01:48.18 | `Zypher | i need to figure out howto install WAU2 for linux |
| 01:48.20 | Xinhuan | a benchmark is always useful! |
| 01:49.17 | Funkeh` | You know how you can colour messages with |cf..|r any easy way to find the colour code? |
| 01:49.43 | Shirik | um |
| 01:49.47 | Shirik | be intelligent? |
| 01:49.56 | Shirik | It's the same as HTML, etc. |
| 01:50.01 | Shirik | simple ARGB hex code |
| 01:50.08 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 01:51.25 | pastamancer | oh what the hell, something tainted my target frame |
| 01:51.36 | Shirik | using VFL? :) |
| 01:51.43 | pastamancer | nope |
| 01:51.53 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:51.56 | Shirik | well then I blame ckknight |
| 01:52.04 | ckknight | wtf |
| 01:52.06 | Shirik | <3 |
| 01:52.20 | pastamancer | something using ace |
| 01:52.53 | Ellipsis | I blame Canada |
| 01:53.18 | `Zypher | canada > you |
| 01:55.05 | pastamancer | I can't wait for the new taint log |
| 01:57.15 | Xinhuan | got a link to the blue saying this taint log stuff? |
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| 02:19.13 | `Zypher | this is going to make me cry |
| 02:19.35 | `Zypher | <3 |
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| 02:21.19 | nymbia | Xinhuan: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518903044&sid=1 |
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| 02:22.05 | Xinhuan | ty |
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| 02:39.52 | starlon | woo new Gimp |
| 02:40.31 | `Zypher | lol |
| 02:40.39 | `Zypher | are you on linux? |
| 02:40.44 | starlon | nah |
| 02:40.47 | `Zypher | dang |
| 02:41.09 | balstor | wiped on kael at 10% /cry |
| 02:41.20 | starlon | last I checked ATI was being jerks about their drivers |
| 02:41.37 | CIA-7 | 03trasher * r53149 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 02:41.37 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 02:41.37 | CIA-7 | - French Update |
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| 02:42.45 | starlon | New gimp has a "healing tool" |
| 02:43.23 | starlon | "Heal image irregularities" |
| 02:43.24 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53150 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: |
| 02:43.24 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: |
| 02:43.24 | CIA-7 | - use prototype for berserk |
| 02:43.24 | CIA-7 | - change debuff bar to debuff names and icons |
| 02:43.24 | CIA-7 | - fix getting the same debuff more than once in a row |
| 02:43.25 | CIA-7 | - add colour to attraction announce |
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| 02:44.22 | Toadkiller | Diao: Its health recovery. I need to spell it out some more i guess |
| 02:50.07 | CIA-7 | 03nogudnik * r53151 10Skillet/ (Skillet.lua UI/MainFrame.lua UI/MainFrame.xml): |
| 02:50.07 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 02:50.07 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.07 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.12 | `Zypher | you know what would be nice, an addon that added mp5 ticks to parrot, or any sct-like addon |
| 02:53.12 | NightHawkTheSane | `Zypher: a) names that start with symbols suck. b) I think MSBT might be able to handle that. |
| 02:55.26 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it looks like it'll show mana regen from spirit and mp5 if you toggle an option on. |
| 02:55.36 | NightHawkTheSane | though it doesn't differentiate between mp5 and sprit. |
| 02:57.53 | Diao | Toadkiller: what types of items would go in that slot? healthstones and night dragons breath and such? |
| 03:00.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: does the latest autobar support directly assigning pt3 sets to custom categories? |
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| 03:15.08 | `Zypher | @NightHawkTheSane: Long ass names suck. |
| 03:15.25 | NightHawkTheSane | l2tabcompete. :P |
| 03:15.57 | `Zypher | lazy |
| 03:16.19 | `Zypher | and how hard could it be to hit tilda? |
| 03:16.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't use it as often as a-z, so it's outside my standard touch typing muscle memory |
| 03:17.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i have to think about where it is to hit it. :P |
| 03:17.07 | `Zypher | lol |
| 03:17.59 | `Zypher | hehe |
| 03:18.18 | `Zypher | steam actually recognizes that i have it running in Wine =D |
| 03:19.22 | Neebler | gabe newell is a great coder!~ |
| 03:19.36 | Neebler | not as good as the guys at Epic tho |
| 03:19.47 | Wobwork | isn't it 'tilde'? |
| 03:20.01 | Neebler | !~ |
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| 03:27.01 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53152 10BigWigs/ (9 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: Use prototype berserk and colours in various modules. |
| 03:28.01 | Comxx | ~seen nogudnik |
| 03:28.02 | purl | nogudnik is currently on #wowace (1h 6m 21s), last said: 'Xinhuan: a commit message from Ackis :-)'. |
| 03:28.49 | Comxx | >msg nogudnik i have a bug |
| 03:29.14 | nogudnik | what's up? |
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| 03:33.30 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53153 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: add a CheckForEngage to prevent wierdness when pulling with a pet O_o |
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| 03:46.22 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53154 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: Warn for toy on all players, no point in filtering with all these crazy variant tactics. Needs localization. |
| 03:47.04 | Xinhuan | warn on toy for a pally tank with righteous fury was funny :) |
| 03:47.20 | Xinhuan | because they can just bubble out of it just before p2 starts |
| 03:47.39 | RaydenUni | why does the green arrow button keep changing what side it is on in the WAU? |
| 03:48.51 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53155 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: Shave 3 seconds off the fel rage timer |
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| 04:03.33 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53156 10CatPoints/ (CatDPS.lua CatDPSTest.lua CatPoints.lua test.lua): |
| 04:03.33 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 04:03.33 | CIA-7 | - Updated the CatDPS Unit tests |
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| 04:06.40 | RaydenUni | if i have two trinkets i can activate, how do i set up a macro to activate both of them? |
| 04:06.51 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53157 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Teron.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Teron: Add ghost timer option |
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| 04:09.10 | Xinhuan | RaydenUni: /use 13 /use 14 |
| 04:09.28 | Xinhuan | not sure if you need a /stopcasting in between them |
| 04:09.35 | Xinhuan | but it doesn't hurt to add it |
| 04:09.46 | nymbia | depends on the trinket, but yeah doesnt hurt |
| 04:11.09 | RaydenUni | sweet |
| 04:11.15 | RaydenUni | it requires it on two lines though |
| 04:13.12 | nymbia | i like to have it before and after the /use calls so it'll kill other casts and not wait to resolve |
| 04:13.22 | nymbia | stopcasting, i mean |
| 04:14.28 | RaydenUni | i'm using it to activate my +dmg trinkets, so i don't think i want to to interrupt other things |
| 04:15.02 | nymbia | well, it will anyway if there's a stopcasting anywhere in there |
| 04:15.29 | RaydenUni | i didn't add one |
| 04:15.36 | RaydenUni | one cooldown sets the trinket cooldown |
| 04:15.41 | RaydenUni | so i can't cast both at once anyways |
| 04:15.49 | nymbia | ah, fair enough |
| 04:19.37 | Toadkiller | use the cycle macro then to alternate between them? |
| 04:20.11 | RaydenUni | well it will activate whichever one is ready |
| 04:20.14 | RaydenUni | what else do i need? |
| 04:20.23 | Wobwork | byebye /stopcasting |
| 04:20.26 | Wobwork | I'll miss you =( |
| 04:21.58 | CIA-7 | 03next96 * r53159 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/koKR.lua: |
| 04:21.58 | CIA-7 | Cartographer: |
| 04:21.58 | CIA-7 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:22.00 | Fisker- | nymbia i miss you |
| 04:22.07 | nymbia | Fisker-: <3 |
| 04:22.39 | Fisker- | wee |
| 04:22.55 | RaydenUni | so i can't find the bar width setting for pitbull |
| 04:22.57 | RaydenUni | where is it? |
| 04:23.40 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 04:23.43 | Funkeh` | sleep or watch sga |
| 04:23.45 | Funkeh` | hmm |
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| 04:25.48 | Funkeh` | Right, thats all the bigwigs comments done with I hope, I really should write them down |
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| 04:28.48 | Xinhuan | funkeh, i'm still reporting that Tidal Shield is being casted consistently with 2-3 seconds left on the timer :) |
| 04:28.57 | RaydenUni | no one knows how to set with in pitbull? |
| 04:29.10 | Funkeh` | I changed it |
| 04:29.13 | Funkeh` | cia sucks |
| 04:29.24 | Xinhuan | ~slap CIA-7 |
| 04:29.25 | purl | ACTION slaps CIA-7, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 04:31.17 | Xinhuan | is the "Raid Health > 8500" thing available yet? |
| 04:31.46 | Funkeh` | No, Saroz was doing something with it |
| 04:32.03 | Xinhuan | i hope he takes into account PW:S and Frost Ward |
| 04:32.35 | RaydenUni | no one here knows anything about pitbull? |
| 04:32.42 | RaydenUni | i can't see my group mates names because of this |
| 04:33.01 | Xinhuan | sorry, i don't use pitbull |
| 04:33.52 | RaydenUni | i also can't figure out how to close this recount real time graph dps meter |
| 04:33.59 | RaydenUni | the part you can drag on is off the screen |
| 04:35.04 | CIA-7 | 03nogudnik * r53160 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 04:35.04 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 04:35.04 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:38.35 | RaydenUni | i found it |
| 04:38.40 | RaydenUni | it's under Other -> Size |
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| 04:44.35 | CIA-7 | 03nymbia 07dev * r53161 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1.lua: |
| 04:44.35 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 04:44.35 | CIA-7 | - Smash stuff around a bit in the core. |
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| 04:47.22 | Funkeh` | omg the smashing nymbia |
| 04:49.45 | nymbia | i didnt do it |
| 04:49.58 | nymbia | ~blame Fisker- |
| 04:49.59 | purl | ACTION blames Fisker- (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 04:50.28 | Xinhuan | i should make my commit messages cute :) |
| 04:50.39 | Shirik | Anyone here know how to make brownies? |
| 04:50.43 | Xinhuan | "I think i fixed this" |
| 04:51.29 | nymbia | best practice is to prematurly cast fault away from yourself in commit messages |
| 04:51.58 | nymbia | might as well just make Funkeh` fix shit right? |
| 04:52.36 | Funkeh` | >.> |
| 04:52.45 | nymbia | ;) |
| 04:53.01 | Funkeh` | Don't put LS into PT, use a separate file |
| 04:53.15 | Xinhuan | try "Fixed the error on line 2351 caused by the cat that jumped on the keyboard" |
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| 04:53.52 | nymbia | Funkeh`: external eh? |
| 04:54.00 | Funkeh` | nah |
| 04:54.10 | Funkeh` | look at what I did with sharedmedialib |
| 04:54.14 | nymbia | k |
| 04:54.17 | Funkeh` | grab a copy of LS from the tags |
| 04:54.26 | Funkeh` | and stick it in, not as an external |
| 04:54.40 | nymbia | the tag copy differ from trunk? |
| 04:54.55 | Funkeh` | yeah a little, comments iirc |
| 04:55.00 | nymbia | aha |
| 04:55.11 | Funkeh` | but the trunk version has a stupid $id which will change if you use it |
| 04:55.56 | nymbia | not if i leave the keyword off, but yeah i like the tag copy better |
| 04:57.11 | Fisker- | one does not simply blame me |
| 04:57.15 | CIA-7 | 03nymbia 07dev * r53162 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1/ (LibStub.lua PeriodicTable-3.1.lua): |
| 04:57.15 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 04:57.15 | CIA-7 | - What kind of moron would follow Funkeh`s advice? |
| 04:57.15 | CIA-7 | - Wait, don't answer that. |
| 04:58.54 | nymbia | Fisker-: clearly i did ;) |
| 05:00.17 | Xinhuan | are null commits possible? |
| 05:00.21 | Xinhuan | a commit that does nothing |
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| 05:01.28 | nymbia | nah, best you can do is to like.. add a newline to the end of a file |
| 05:03.53 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07dev * r53163 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1/ (7 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.1: free moron help! |
| 05:04.42 | Fisker- | then i'm going to simply kill you nymbia |
| 05:04.52 | nymbia | :( |
| 05:05.14 | nymbia | Funkeh`: lol harsh |
| 05:05.37 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 05:06.23 | nymbia | Funkeh`: that directory structure's a little drunken |
| 05:06.56 | Funkeh` | Same structure I sued for Ace3 and SM |
| 05:07.00 | Funkeh` | used* |
| 05:08.11 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53164 10AutoBar/ (15 files): |
| 05:08.11 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 05:08.11 | CIA-7 | -- 2.02.03.17 beta () |
| 05:08.11 | CIA-7 | -- Fix issues with deleting and moving regular buttons or causing them to be moved. |
| 05:08.12 | CIA-7 | -- Trinket1 & Trinket2 buttons. Trinket 2 can not equip until I fix it & the Alchemy button. |
| 05:08.12 | CIA-7 | -- More messing with keybinds |
| 05:08.54 | Toadkiller | oh hey PT3.1 ??? |
| 05:09.09 | Funkeh` | You need another ? to be cool |
| 05:09.09 | Toadkiller | That disembedded or something? |
| 05:09.29 | Toadkiller | I only wish I could make it 3 CAPITAL ? |
| 05:09.38 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 05:09.58 | nymbia | Toadkiller: just switching to LibStub, cleaning out a bit of pointless API, and re-thinking the compression scheme |
| 05:10.16 | Toadkiller | Nice. Is it ready to switch to yet? |
| 05:10.24 | nymbia | nah, it probably won't even load |
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| 05:10.45 | Toadkiller | Ah ok. Will there be some minor set name wrangling? |
| 05:11.09 | nymbia | how do you mean? |
| 05:11.31 | nymbia | Funkeh`: where's this vers of sharedmedialib? |
| 05:11.48 | Funkeh` | LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 05:12.04 | Funkeh` | lulz |
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| 05:12.47 | Toadkiller | Well, that was a poorly chosen paste |
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| 05:13.26 | nymbia | heh |
| 05:13.39 | Toadkiller | Ok Gear.Socketed.Wrist etc. vs Gear.Trinket, seems like you would want to move wrist up higher & have socketed be a subset for future expansion |
| 05:14.27 | Toadkiller | Just asking because there was some wrangling that went into the last version. If its just Stub then its a faster upgrade decision... |
| 05:14.49 | nymbia | hrmm.. yeah i see your point there |
| 05:14.55 | Funkeh` | ORLY |
| 05:15.10 | nymbia | ~whaleslap Funkeh` |
| 05:15.11 | purl | ACTION beats Funkeh` upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 05:15.14 | Toadkiller | On the other hand a major rev is the right time to wrangle ;-p |
| 05:15.19 | nymbia | for sure |
| 05:15.33 | Funkeh` | all this talk of wrangle is turning me on |
| 05:15.47 | Toadkiller | You did a good job last time though I really can only think of a few sots to mess with |
| 05:15.59 | Toadkiller | *spots |
| 05:16.27 | Toadkiller | Btw what are you changing in the compression? |
| 05:16.57 | Xelopheris | HEY YOU GUYZ MAG IS AT SIX PERCENT! WE DUN NEED 2 CLICK!!!11 |
| 05:17.26 | Toadkiller | this is when a giant boulder falls on the tank for an insta gib... |
| 05:18.48 | nymbia | well i just tossed it in the working branch... it's only a 15%-ish savings in exchange for the processor time taken to decompress |
| 05:19.27 | Toadkiller | Which should be negligible compared to the load time of a file anyway |
| 05:20.19 | nymbia | yeah.. |
| 05:20.55 | Toadkiller | I need to see how much space AutoBar is taking up sometime. Anyone have a good fubar mod or something to recommend? |
| 05:22.20 | Wobwork | performancefu? |
| 05:22.28 | Xelopheris | performancefu |
| 05:22.30 | Toadkiller | ok |
| 05:22.32 | nymbia | alright, i'm gonna sleep |
| 05:22.34 | nymbia | later guys |
| 05:22.38 | Wobwork | or maybe KTM =) |
| 05:22.38 | Toadkiller | later |
| 05:22.54 | Toadkiller | lol ktm threat has that too? |
| 05:23.01 | Wobwork | I hear NatrEnemyCastBars does it too =P |
| 05:23.12 | Toadkiller | feature creep imo! |
| 05:23.17 | Xelopheris | FUCKING SHIT! I'm watching my fraps of mag wipe, and the one click that didn't go off was because someone fuckong summoned the image of archmage what'shisface and he was sitting over the cube |
| 05:23.31 | Wobwork | Xelopheris: pwnd |
| 05:25.19 | Toadkiller | omg ok: MT on vail, its hot & heavy, hes got the burning adrenaline, its a european server so they are all swearing in a foreign tongue, he is using AutoBar, he clicks his last pot & the hearthstone moves over to that spot. He spams another pot desperately seeking more health & insta hearths to Ironforge! |
| 05:26.16 | Xuerian | Wait, Funkeh`is teh admin now? |
| 05:27.36 | Funkeh` | Where you been? |
| 05:28.00 | Xuerian | Not here. Where've YOU been? |
| 05:28.13 | Xuerian | (Thanks for the fix commits, by the way) |
| 05:28.56 | Wobwork | Toadkiller: win =) |
| 05:29.06 | Wobwork | Well clearly Autobar saved him repair costs =) |
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| 05:34.12 | Nerox | Does anyone know how to resize the bars for Trackbar and Aspects Bar? I somehow resized them and now they overlap each other. |
| 05:34.27 | `Zypher | someone hax WAU2 for linux imo |
| 05:34.33 | Thelyna | anyone here played with TourGuide? I'm wondering if the coords it uses tomtom to display that don't show the guide arrow (whereas if I click on a location in say Lightheaded I get the dot on the map and the guide arrow) are intentional or if it's just me |
| 05:39.29 | Thelyna | er .. what I'm trying to say is that tomtom has the nifty direction arrow on-screen. lightheaded links bring up said arrow. tourguide links don't |
| 05:43.53 | Wobwork | guide arrow? |
| 05:44.05 | Wobwork | Did Clad finally get the crazytaxi arrow in? |
| 05:44.16 | Wobwork | `Zypher: wowace.py imo |
| 05:48.44 | RaydenUni | any suggestions for a target practice dummy to see what dps i get? |
| 05:48.48 | Toadkiller | Wobwork: Yeah I actually laughed out loud when I read the post about the tank taking off from the vael fight. |
| 05:49.16 | RaydenUni | cartographer has an arrow |
| 05:49.31 | Toadkiller | RaydenUni: the MAna Tombs entrance is a popular spot for that or to level a weapon |
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| 05:50.16 | RaydenUni | why what's there? |
| 05:50.20 | RaydenUni | been a while since i ran it |
| 05:50.30 | RaydenUni | this cat keeps trying to sit on my keyboard... |
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| 05:52.22 | Wobwork | RaydenUni: ranged or melee? |
| 05:52.52 | Nefarion | hola |
| 05:53.33 | RaydenUni | spriest |
| 05:53.40 | Wobwork | Also it's Shadowlabs |
| 05:53.45 | Wobwork | not mana tombs |
| 05:53.57 | RaydenUni | i know SL is a good palce for a spriest to clear by himself |
| 05:53.59 | Wobwork | that has the mass of npcs out front |
| 05:54.19 | Wobwork | Well for ranged, DrBoom is best |
| 05:54.35 | Wobwork | if you hop onto the barrel near him, you'll be in range for MF |
| 05:54.46 | RaydenUni | oh right |
| 05:54.46 | Wobwork | and you can dps to your hearts content |
| 05:54.54 | Wobwork | cause he doesn't die |
| 05:54.55 | RaydenUni | i've heard he is good for testing wands |
| 05:55.07 | Wobwork | or rather, he has insane amounts of hp |
| 05:55.52 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath |
| 05:55.58 | RaydenUni | what sort of dps should i be looking at? |
| 05:56.09 | Wobwork | no thraebot |
| 05:56.14 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 05:56.16 | RaydenUni | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Raydenuni |
| 05:56.28 | Wobwork | "lots" |
| 05:56.47 | RaydenUni | i just fought the HH and i was doing ~350 |
| 05:56.51 | RaydenUni | seems low |
| 05:58.00 | Wobwork | ~42667/60 |
| 05:58.01 | purl | 711.116666666667 |
| 05:58.09 | Wobwork | ~711/60 |
| 05:58.09 | purl | 11.85 |
| 05:58.23 | Wobwork | ~11557/60 |
| 05:58.23 | purl | 192.616666666667 |
| 05:58.29 | Nefarion | ~10/0 |
| 05:58.34 | Wobwork | ~192/60 |
| 05:58.34 | purl | 3.2 |
| 05:58.42 | Nefarion | purl, you dumb shit |
| 05:58.46 | Nefarion | lol |
| 05:59.07 | RaydenUni | ~1/0 |
| 05:59.08 | purl | 1/0 is probably undefined |
| 05:59.12 | RaydenUni | it knows |
| 05:59.23 | Nefarion | i'm pretty sure it's inifinite |
| 05:59.41 | RaydenUni | no |
| 05:59.48 | RaydenUni | it is undefined |
| 06:00.01 | RaydenUni | if 1/0 was infinity that would be nice |
| 06:00.12 | Nefarion | purl, does .999~ = 1? |
| 06:00.20 | RaydenUni | !.999 |
| 06:00.23 | RaydenUni | ~.999 |
| 06:00.24 | purl | 0.999 |
| 06:00.28 | RaydenUni | ~.999~ |
| 06:00.28 | Nefarion | oops |
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| 06:00.41 | RaydenUni | it doesn't know that i guess |
| 06:00.52 | Nefarion | ~(~.999==1) |
| 06:01.03 | RaydenUni | it does though |
| 06:01.10 | Nefarion | no it doesn't |
| 06:01.18 | RaydenUni | 0.999~ = 1 |
| 06:01.22 | Nefarion | it's a flaw in the number system |
| 06:01.28 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 06:01.28 | Nefarion | not everything's perfect |
| 06:01.34 | RaydenUni | uh you haven't taken any advanced math have you? |
| 06:02.03 | RaydenUni | this spreadsheet says i should be doing 674 dps |
| 06:02.20 | Nefarion | and what school taught you repeating numbers are unique numbers? |
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| 06:02.29 | Nefarion | it's *about* equal to one |
| 06:02.37 | Nefarion | aren't** |
| 06:02.39 | RaydenUni | no it's not |
| 06:02.53 | Nefarion | whatever, go argue it on the forums >.> |
| 06:02.54 | RaydenUni | there is no finite number between .999~ and 1 |
| 06:03.15 | CIA-7 | 03xuerian 07XLoot1.0 * r53166 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Probably fixed elastic loot frame. Backporting. |
| 06:03.19 | Wobwork | We'll just say 0.9~ is functionally equal to 1 |
| 06:03.24 | Nefarion | so that means they are one and the same? |
| 06:03.25 | RaydenUni | In mathematics, the recurring decimal 0.999… , which is also written as 0.\bar{9} , 0.\dot{9} or \ 0.(9), denotes a real number equal to 1. |
| 06:03.33 | RaydenUni | they are the same number yes |
| 06:03.42 | RaydenUni | 1 - 0.999~ = 0 |
| 06:04.02 | Nefarion | "whatever, go argue it on the forums >.>" |
| 06:04.09 | RaydenUni | "Students of mathematics often reject the equality of 0.999… and 1, for reasons ranging from their disparate appearance to deep misgivings over the limit concept and disagreements over the nature of infinitesimals." |
| 06:04.12 | RaydenUni | there is nothing to argue |
| 06:04.17 | RaydenUni | it's like arguing 1 = 1 is false |
| 06:04.26 | RaydenUni | there is no room for discussion in math, there are only absolutes |
| 06:04.31 | RaydenUni | you are right or you are wrong, no opinions |
| 06:04.44 | RaydenUni | it just so happens that 0.999~ = 1, anything else is false |
| 06:04.56 | CIA-7 | 03xuerian * r53167 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Backported stretchy frame fix. Three pages of ruckus over one line... |
| 06:05.42 | RaydenUni | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.999_%3D_1 |
| 06:05.48 | RaydenUni | Blizzard even proved it :P |
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| 06:06.13 | RaydenUni | http://www.blizzard.com/press/040401.shtml |
| 06:07.10 | Nefarion | but you know, you can prove something over and over showing it's true, but finding one instance of disproof kills it. but we can't logically calculate a number of infinite length so you can say arguing it is pointless. |
| 06:07.37 | RaydenUni | uh |
| 06:07.45 | hyperChipmunk | no, that's a theorem |
| 06:07.47 | RaydenUni | it isn't pointless we use numbers we can't calculate in math all the time |
| 06:08.01 | RaydenUni | ever heard of i? |
| 06:08.24 | Zhinjio | Rayden, let me guess... you're what, 22? 23? |
| 06:08.25 | RaydenUni | how about different sizes of infinity? :P |
| 06:08.29 | RaydenUni | that is my persona infinity |
| 06:08.32 | RaydenUni | 22 |
| 06:08.33 | Nefarion | a calculator never uses true 100% accuracy with an infinite number, it will go as far as it matters, with is more than functional |
| 06:08.37 | RaydenUni | my personal favorite* |
| 06:08.39 | Zhinjio | Now. I wonder how I knew that. |
| 06:08.44 | RaydenUni | :P |
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| 06:08.59 | RaydenUni | old enough to know about math, and young enough to enjoy arguing it? |
| 06:09.09 | Nefarion | lol |
| 06:09.18 | RaydenUni | but calculators aren't the end all of math |
| 06:09.23 | RaydenUni | i haven't used a calculator in years |
| 06:09.38 | RaydenUni | the last 4 or 5 math classes i've taken i've never needed a calculator |
| 06:09.41 | Nefarion | your brain calculates just the same |
| 06:09.50 | RaydenUni | so? |
| 06:09.56 | RaydenUni | math isn't defined by your brain |
| 06:10.05 | Nefarion | so accepting that, go back up and read the line agaon |
| 06:10.06 | Nefarion | in* |
| 06:10.08 | Zhinjio | HAHAHAHA |
| 06:10.16 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 06:10.17 | Zhinjio | that is so freaking funny |
| 06:10.18 | Nefarion | did i say it was? |
| 06:10.36 | Nefarion | your calculations of math are, and so are your arguements |
| 06:10.41 | Nefarion | uments* |
| 06:10.48 | RaydenUni | i'm just failing to see how your brain calculates stuff matters in how numbers are defined |
| 06:10.51 | Nefarion | apparently so is spelling lol |
| 06:11.38 | RaydenUni | math is fun |
| 06:11.42 | RaydenUni | what's your favorite proof? |
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| 06:11.47 | Nefarion | whatever, i'm getting pretty bored of this |
| 06:11.51 | hyperChipmunk | Nefarion: i'd really advise you stop now. you're in a room full of computer scientists, and you're making yourself look more and more an ignoramus with nearly every line you've written in the last 5 minutes |
| 06:12.09 | hyperChipmunk | for your own good, and for the sanity of everyone in here, please stop >8x |
| 06:12.20 | RaydenUni | mine is the Cantor Diagonal Theorem |
| 06:12.24 | RaydenUni | i guess it's a theorem not a proof |
| 06:12.28 | Nefarion | i did, but whatever man |
| 06:13.51 | hyperChipmunk | if you'd like to help yourself, I'd recommend reading http://web.mat.bham.ac.uk/C.J.Sangwin/euler/ElementsAlgebra.html |
| 06:14.36 | Nefarion | don't insult or condescend to me please. |
| 06:15.55 | hyperChipmunk | no, I genuinely am trying to help you >8\ |
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| 06:16.46 | RaydenUni | math books can actually be fun |
| 06:16.51 | RaydenUni | i forget the one i really liked |
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| 06:18.51 | Zhinjio | is big O still taught in algorithms classes? |
| 06:19.16 | Zhinjio | are there still algorithm classes? |
| 06:19.17 | Zhinjio | heh |
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| 06:19.32 | Zerp | Can sum in here help me with a really stupid question bout using ace2 please |
| 06:19.51 | Zhinjio | ask. if someone can help you, they will answer. |
| 06:20.04 | RaydenUni | yes Zhinjio |
| 06:20.18 | RaydenUni | we discussed big O before my design & analysis of algorithms |
| 06:20.20 | Toadkiller | I am late to this argument but the statement that there is no finite number between .999~ and 1 is just plain wrong. The reason is obvious: you are 1 10 toes monkey & have an unfortunate tendency to think in base 10 |
| 06:20.26 | RaydenUni | but that's where we went into depth |
| 06:20.31 | Zerp | all i want to do is get ace2 so i can use the cords system for WoW.. but i dont know what i need to download to use it? |
| 06:20.38 | RaydenUni | what Toadkiller ? |
| 06:20.42 | Nefarion | Toad, best to leave it closed. |
| 06:20.54 | Toadkiller | THat is my only statement on the topic |
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| 06:21.07 | RaydenUni | but it didn't say anything except i was wrong and i have 10 toes |
| 06:21.17 | RaydenUni | i don't think the base has anything to do with the issue |
| 06:21.41 | Nefarion | yeah i only read the first 10 words of his sentence >> |
| 06:22.37 | RaydenUni | if one were to represent hex with a floating point then 1 = 0.FFF~ |
| 06:22.40 | Comxx | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stHF-8GPz0c&eurl=http://www.wanderinggoblin.com/cinema.php lol |
| 06:23.23 | Toadkiller | Ok tell me that for instance 0.fffff~ in hexadecimal is not larger than 0,99999~ in base 10. |
| 06:23.35 | RaydenUni | it's the same number |
| 06:24.56 | Toadkiller | uh no its not. |
| 06:25.06 | RaydenUni | which one doesn't equal 1? |
| 06:25.13 | Toadkiller | neither |
| 06:25.35 | RaydenUni | how do you represent 1/3 in decimal? |
| 06:25.37 | Toadkiller | both of them have an infinite amount of irational numbers between them & 1 |
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| 06:25.56 | Toadkiller | 0.3~ |
| 06:26.05 | RaydenUni | 3 * 1/3 = 1 right? |
| 06:26.10 | Toadkiller | sure |
| 06:26.20 | RaydenUni | 3 * 0.3~ = 0.9~ ? |
| 06:26.30 | Toadkiller | No amount of invoking zeno's paradox is gonna help u here |
| 06:27.23 | Toadkiller | no |
| 06:27.40 | RaydenUni | how is it a paradox? |
| 06:28.03 | Toadkiller | its not, zeno does not apply here but its a related concept |
| 06:28.21 | RaydenUni | related yes |
| 06:29.04 | RaydenUni | it is true that much of math either seems made up or is made up |
| 06:29.09 | RaydenUni | discussing whether math is a science of absolute truths or a system of made up rules is an interesting philosophy discussion |
| 06:29.43 | RaydenUni | depending on how practical you are, you pretty much have to buy into the idea that it is based on reality |
| 06:29.51 | RaydenUni | for practical reasons |
| 06:30.12 | RaydenUni | but many fields cause problems with that |
| 06:30.24 | Toadkiller | Math is not based on reality, it is a particular subset of a greater set of systems / rules |
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| 06:30.39 | RaydenUni | but choices like whether 0.999~ = 1 or not isn't arbitrary |
| 06:30.43 | Xinhuan | lua> tonumber("") |
| 06:30.44 | cladbot | Xinhuan: nil, |
| 06:30.58 | Xinhuan | lua> tonumber("1.") |
| 06:30.58 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 1, |
| 06:31.03 | Nefarion | wtf, we have a lua parser? |
| 06:31.04 | Nefarion | lol |
| 06:31.06 | Xinhuan | lua> tonumber(".1") |
| 06:31.07 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 0.1, |
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| 06:31.59 | Nefarion | cladbot told me my table was nil.... |
| 06:32.06 | Nefarion | ^^ |
| 06:32.16 | Xuerian | You fail at tables? |
| 06:32.28 | Nefarion | methinks cladbot does |
| 06:32.38 | RaydenUni | you sit on a chair, you put you drink on the table... what is there to fail? |
| 06:32.54 | Nefarion | fuck my drink spilled |
| 06:32.59 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Collision mesh is actually table-4. |
| 06:33.37 | Nefarion | is it possible to avoid having cladbot truncate the result? |
| 06:33.48 | RaydenUni | it's too bad none of you can see my animated opengl unicycle |
| 06:34.01 | RaydenUni | it is pretty sweet |
| 06:34.19 | RaydenUni | all wireframe and stuff |
| 06:34.46 | Xuerian | 3d port of uniracers? woot. |
| 06:34.55 | RaydenUni | nah |
| 06:35.11 | Xuerian | Booo. |
| 06:35.25 | RaydenUni | sorry |
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| 06:39.18 | `Zypher | freakin eh |
| 06:39.58 | `Zypher | =/ |
| 06:44.10 | Xinhuan | http://img.moonbuggy.org/wear-noisy-little-bells/ |
| 06:44.12 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 06:44.42 | Nefarion | that's awesome |
| 06:45.19 | Nefarion | still better to yell imo |
| 06:45.21 | Nefarion | >> |
| 06:48.21 | Nefarion | " We do plan on making the current honor rank titles available again at some point in the future as rewards of some type, however no definite plans have been made and no set methods for how they would be obtained have been decided." |
| 06:48.26 | Nefarion | thoughts? |
| 06:48.56 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Bahaha. |
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| 06:51.44 | Nefarion | http://knightly-slumber.com/worldofwarcraft/files/euro_vs_america.jpg |
| 06:54.23 | Xuerian | So true. |
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| 07:11.43 | Xinhuan | grr i can't request more than like a few itemlinks in a row from the server without getting d/c now |
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| 07:19.15 | cladhaire | Thelyna: That "nifty arrow" isn't TomTom |
| 07:19.19 | cladhaire | but will be in the next release. |
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| 07:23.22 | CIA-7 | 03damjau * r53168 10VisualThemes/Locales/koKR.lua: |
| 07:23.22 | CIA-7 | VisualThemes: |
| 07:23.22 | CIA-7 | - copy file to add koKR locals |
| 07:24.24 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r53169 10BigWigs/ (8 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Stop using custom colors in warning messages + a bugfix in the Teron module. |
| 07:25.21 | vhaarr | ~seen tuller |
| 07:25.23 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 1m 5s ago, saying: 'it should be :P'. |
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| 07:28.37 | CIA-7 | VisualThemes: |
| 07:28.37 | CIA-7 | - add koKR locals |
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| 07:44.33 | theoddone33 | ugh |
| 07:44.44 | theoddone33 | got really annoyed at my guild |
| 07:44.54 | theoddone33 | 6-manning HH with a 67 tank and a 63 in the group |
| 07:45.03 | theoddone33 | I die right at the end and so does a rogue |
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| 07:45.23 | theoddone33 | then I see "rez plz" I'm the only one that can do it and he wants me to run back and rez him so he doesn't have to run the exact same distance |
| 07:47.43 | theoddone33 | and that stupid boss still hasn't dropped the ring I want |
| 07:47.47 | Lukian | did you /gquit ? |
| 07:47.56 | theoddone33 | naw just snapped at them |
| 07:48.20 | theoddone33 | the guild is gonna die soon anyway |
| 07:48.38 | theoddone33 | so I don't need to worry about /gquitting and making enemies or whatever |
| 07:57.36 | CIA-7 | 03hegarol * r53172 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 07:57.36 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 07:57.36 | CIA-7 | - News sporeggar pet added |
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| 08:04.21 | Xinhuan | so |
| 08:04.25 | Xinhuan | is any of Kaelten, Cladhaire, ckknight, Mikk, Ammo, Nevcairiel |
| 08:04.26 | Xinhuan | here? |
| 08:04.39 | Kaelten | no I'm dead |
| 08:04.45 | Kaelten | :P |
| 08:04.48 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 08:04.49 | Xinhuan | well |
| 08:04.53 | Xinhuan | in LibStub |
| 08:04.54 | many | woot |
| 08:04.54 | Xinhuan | 10/25 16:02:14.233 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\LibStub\LibStub.toc |
| 08:04.54 | Xinhuan | 10/25 16:02:14.233 Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\LibStub\ |
| 08:05.03 | Xinhuan | this error is generated in the framexml log |
| 08:05.21 | Xinhuan | appears Line 8 of the file has an extra space |
| 08:05.21 | Xinhuan | in the TOC |
| 08:05.36 | cladhaire | using the tagged version? |
| 08:05.54 | Xinhuan | i'm afraid this is the copy that is installed via WAU |
| 08:05.54 | Kaelten | ya I need to remove line 8 |
| 08:05.57 | Kaelten | er that space |
| 08:06.02 | Xinhuan | that was installed via SharedMedia |
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| 08:06.22 | Xinhuan | that was installed via some add that uses SharedMedia |
| 08:07.02 | Kaelten | I'll fix it in the morning |
| 08:07.03 | Xinhuan | i assume sharedmedia points to the tagged version? |
| 08:07.10 | Xinhuan | because it was mentioned earlier |
| 08:07.13 | Xinhuan | or something |
| 08:07.33 | nevcairiel | in the morning? meh i'll do it now :P |
| 08:08.09 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel * r53173 10LibStub/LibStub.toc: LibStub: remove a redundant space to stop an error in framexml.log |
| 08:08.22 | theoddone33 | ahhh |
| 08:08.39 | theoddone33 | I was so curious what was making crazy sounds when my sheeps broke |
| 08:08.46 | theoddone33 | cryolysis *shake fist* |
| 08:08.47 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 08:09.18 | Xinhuan | what crazy sound? |
| 08:09.33 | theoddone33 | I couldn't make out what it said |
| 08:09.38 | theoddone33 | something in a sheep voice that was really freaky |
| 08:10.01 | theoddone33 | "I'm coming for you" or something |
| 08:10.15 | theoddone33 | I may have nightmares if I think about it any more |
| 08:10.21 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 071.0 * r53174 10LibStub/LibStub.toc: LibStub: update 1.0 tag for fix in trunk |
| 08:10.59 | nevcairiel | there, all fixed |
| 08:11.05 | [Ammo] | mooo |
| 08:11.11 | Xinhuan | should addons point to the branch tag for externals? |
| 08:11.21 | [Ammo] | they should include the file proper |
| 08:11.26 | [Ammo] | screw externals |
| 08:11.44 | Xinhuan | wouldn't the authors of the addons need to manually update the file then? |
| 08:11.57 | [Ammo] | it doesn't update that often and upgrades fine |
| 08:12.06 | orionshock | ammo it's not practical for an svn |
| 08:12.23 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53175 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:12.23 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceConfig: |
| 08:12.23 | CIA-7 | - remove LibStub from the .xml files |
| 08:12.23 | Xinhuan | is it possible to specify a single file as external? |
| 08:12.23 | Arrowmaster | including the proper file fucks shit up if the author doesnt know wtf theyre doing with svn and the files use the Rev tag for internal version numbering for upgrading |
| 08:12.25 | orionshock | oh for lib stub sure |
| 08:12.26 | Xinhuan | rather than a folder |
| 08:12.34 | nevcairiel | yes it is |
| 08:12.42 | nevcairiel | at least i think so :P |
| 08:12.47 | [Ammo] | libstub has no svn revision for upgrading |
| 08:12.49 | [Ammo] | it has a manual number |
| 08:12.56 | [Ammo] | and only a handful of people allowed to commit to it |
| 08:13.00 | [Ammo] | it won't change for a while |
| 08:13.04 | Arrowmaster | ah ok |
| 08:13.05 | [Ammo] | where a while is months |
| 08:13.42 | [Ammo] | unless someone finds a bug that hasn't been found yet in those 30 effective lines of code :p |
| 08:13.52 | orionshock | what i don't understand is including lib stub w/ it's tag folders as well |
| 08:14.07 | Xinhuan | so assumably, an external like "LibStub.lua http://svn.wowace...branches/LibStub/1.0/LibStub.lua" would work? |
| 08:14.16 | [Ammo] | s/branches/tagsd |
| 08:14.22 | [Ammo] | but yes it would work |
| 08:14.37 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 08:15.25 | [Ammo] | and it's good practice for the upcoming change of svn |
| 08:15.31 | [Ammo] | where you should point to releases and not trunk |
| 08:16.10 | Xinhuan | how's the transition going to work? |
| 08:16.42 | [Ammo] | that I do not know |
| 08:16.52 | [Ammo] | but I do know the new svn will be a lot better for actual releases |
| 08:16.53 | orionshock | the svn can and will tolerate cross svn externals. |
| 08:16.54 | [Ammo] | and dev versions |
| 08:17.04 | [Ammo] | ofcourse orionshock no-one said it wouldn't |
| 08:17.13 | [Ammo] | but it's good practice to point at actual tags/releases instead of trunk |
| 08:17.18 | orionshock | right |
| 08:17.31 | Fisker- | hoho [Ammo] |
| 08:17.33 | Fisker- | i laughed |
| 08:17.40 | [Ammo] | you always laugh fisker |
| 08:17.55 | [Ammo] | it's all you can do, smile without any knowledge :p |
| 08:18.18 | orionshock | Xinhuan: from what i gather each addon / author will have their own svn "server" with ? /branches /trunk /release in it |
| 08:18.19 | Fisker- | nope |
| 08:18.20 | Fritti | [Ammo]: is that going to be enforced then? externals pointing to tags/releases? |
| 08:18.24 | Fisker- | you were so funny! |
| 08:18.27 | Fisker- | "Toc to the hand" |
| 08:18.28 | Fisker- | HAHAH |
| 08:18.29 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 08:18.30 | [Ammo] | Fritti: ofcourse not |
| 08:18.30 | orionshock | files site will compile from / release |
| 08:18.43 | Xinhuan | does that imply no author can modify a different author's addons? |
| 08:18.44 | [Ammo] | Fritti: but if you point at trunk and stuff breaks/become incompat |
| 08:18.52 | Fritti | yeah |
| 08:18.53 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: there will be a grants system |
| 08:18.58 | orionshock | Xinhuan: maybe not trunk, but you'd be able to branch it |
| 08:19.07 | Fritti | I'm not for or against either way, just asking :) |
| 08:19.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:19.24 | Xinhuan | could be backwards for translators |
| 08:19.34 | Xinhuan | there's not been much info released |
| 08:19.41 | Xinhuan | so just speculation |
| 08:19.45 | [Ammo] | orionshock: unless I'm mistaken from past talks, I've said what will happen |
| 08:19.58 | orionshock | well with regards to translators - it'd be built on the premis that you have a /locale folder and translators would have access to that folder only |
| 08:20.02 | [Ammo] | svn's will be open default, but you have the option to close them down and only allow certain people |
| 08:20.13 | orionshock | [Ammo] on IRC but not on forums... |
| 08:20.14 | [Ammo] | orionshock: that is a future plan, but hard to implement atm |
| 08:20.15 | Fritti | sounds like a nice plan |
| 08:20.25 | [Ammo] | who cares about the forums when the plans are not set in stone / under dev |
| 08:20.33 | Fritti | isn't wowi interested in providing svn's btw? |
| 08:20.39 | [Ammo] | it's not a democracy, it's the wowace admins handling it |
| 08:20.50 | orionshock | i know |
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| 08:21.26 | orionshock | i ment said on the forums as an announcement not as a discussion, tho i understand why you'd not want to say anything on the forums.... |
| 08:22.10 | [Ammo] | like I said, it's being worked on, and when there's a beta available, there will be some forum announcement no doubt |
| 08:23.01 | [Ammo] | if you want a description of what it might be like, think of googlecode, but more specific to wowace, and probably with a different featureset |
| 08:23.10 | orionshock | ya |
| 08:23.49 | orionshock | imho, files needs to seperate from the svn.. but that makes other things complicated.... |
| 08:23.59 | orionshock | *separate |
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| 08:26.41 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r53176 10GemHelper/GemHelper.lua: GemHelper: Remove automatic gem itemlink query ability due to new anti-spam disconnect stuff on the live servers. *Shakes Fist* |
| 08:28.23 | Diao | ouch |
| 08:28.25 | Diao | holy crap |
| 08:28.31 | Diao | hunters minimum range for ranged attacks is now 1 yard |
| 08:28.37 | Diao | in your face pewpew now |
| 08:28.38 | Xinhuan | link |
| 08:28.46 | Diao | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 08:28.48 | Lukian | Why isn't IncomingHealsLib a dependency of GridStatusIncomingHeals? |
| 08:28.52 | Bibi` | great site Diao ! |
| 08:29.05 | Xinhuan | because a library can be embedded |
| 08:29.20 | Lukian | pardon? |
| 08:29.24 | Diao | well |
| 08:29.26 | Diao | it's always up to date |
| 08:29.41 | Xinhuan | because a library can be embedded, so it cannot be a Dependency, at most be a OptDep |
| 08:29.51 | Lukian | perhaps I should clarify. |
| 08:30.18 | Lukian | I install GridStatusIncomingHeals using WAU and I get an LUA error ingame, saying it can't find an instance of IncomingHealsLib. |
| 08:30.28 | Diao | it's also on worldofraids.com |
| 08:30.43 | Lukian | usually WAU auto-handles dependencies, but in this case, there must be an error |
| 08:31.01 | Lukian | (I use no-ext) |
| 08:31.30 | Xinhuan | in this case, it could be possible that Grid isn't listing that lib as a Optdep |
| 08:31.33 | Xinhuan | so that it loads before grid |
| 08:32.35 | orionshock | Lukian: it's set as an external... |
| 08:32.45 | orionshock | and as an opt dep |
| 08:32.54 | orionshock | so your WAU is borked |
| 08:33.13 | Lukian | orionshock, not for Grid itself, but for "GridStatusIncomingHeals" |
| 08:33.18 | orionshock | yes |
| 08:33.24 | orionshock | for GridStatusIncHeals |
| 08:33.29 | orionshock | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/GridStatusIncomingHeals |
| 08:33.34 | orionshock | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/GridStatusIncomingHeals/GridStatusIncomingHeals.toc?r=51860 |
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| 08:33.42 | Lukian | weird |
| 08:33.56 | Xinhuan | did you also restart wow fully? :) |
| 08:34.01 | Lukian | perhaps someone else can confirm that it doesn't get detected as a dependency? |
| 08:34.14 | Lukian | Xinhuan, it simply didn't download IncomingHealsLib with the other part |
| 08:34.26 | Lukian | one would have to manually select it |
| 08:34.39 | Xinhuan | it didn't download because the TOC didn't list X-Embeds |
| 08:34.59 | Xinhuan | WAU uses ## X-Embeds toc field as a list of dependencies to download |
| 08:35.11 | orionshock | that i didn't know Xinhuan |
| 08:35.28 | orionshock | and it's not WAU , it's the files site packagemaker |
| 08:35.51 | Xinhuan | its WAU too |
| 08:36.02 | Xinhuan | for WAU to download the libraries as addons |
| 08:36.10 | Xinhuan | while pulling the no-ext zips |
| 08:36.13 | orionshock | it pulls the deps from the xml feed |
| 08:36.32 | orionshock | it dosn't parse the toc file on download for the libs |
| 08:36.37 | orionshock | that would be ... stupid |
| 08:36.54 | orionshock | :D |
| 08:37.12 | kebinusan | hmm for some reason item links in the trade channel show up as clink junk instead of item links, any ideas |
| 08:37.39 | Xinhuan | it doesn't parse the XML feed as far as i know, because the no-ext zip uses a default empty embeds.xml template |
| 08:37.45 | orionshock | kebinusan: prat > disable chat links |
| 08:38.15 | orionshock | Xinhuan one sec - need to open WAU to get where the xml file is so i can pwn you :P |
| 08:38.28 | Xinhuan | this is just what someone told me earlier ;p |
| 08:38.33 | orionshock | or we can ask sylvanaar what it does |
| 08:39.35 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53177 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Teron.lua TheEye/Kaelthas.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 08:39.38 | nevcairiel | it should parse the .xml feed |
| 08:39.44 | nevcairiel | it doesnt open the .zip file and look inside |
| 08:39.57 | kebinusan | hm I'll try that but chatlinks never should show up in normal channels |
| 08:40.11 | Xinhuan | kebinusan, they aren't supposed to |
| 08:40.16 | orionshock | where is that blasted xml file? |
| 08:40.19 | orionshock | ~wau2 |
| 08:40.19 | purl | hmm... wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 08:40.33 | nevcairiel | dunno whats the link is :shrug: |
| 08:40.44 | Xinhuan | the fact that that option is on by default in Prat is annoying a lot of people that don't use Prat |
| 08:41.56 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: Not in the trade channel or guild chat |
| 08:42.01 | orionshock | http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml |
| 08:42.04 | kebinusan | chat links was for allowing item links in private channels |
| 08:42.18 | kebinusan | the trade channel and guild talk for example shouldnt use them |
| 08:42.32 | kebinusan | since you can send normal item links there |
| 08:42.57 | Xinhuan | except that somehow, it all got mixed up and now you send gibberish links to /2 |
| 08:43.08 | kebinusan | exactly |
| 08:43.15 | kebinusan | guess I can check the svn log for prat |
| 08:43.21 | nevcairiel | http://files.wowace.com/latest.xml http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml |
| 08:43.22 | nevcairiel | there |
| 08:43.40 | nevcairiel | it lists deps and all |
| 08:43.47 | nevcairiel | thats the only thing used |
| 08:44.02 | orionshock | Lukian: http://ace.pastey.net/75784 , case in point the external is set properly |
| 08:44.13 | orionshock | so your WAU = borked a little :D |
| 08:44.37 | Xinhuan | how is that xml feed generated? based on the "svn:externals" field? |
| 08:44.45 | orionshock | prolly |
| 08:44.59 | Xinhuan | what if i list a file as an external rather than a folder? |
| 08:45.00 | nevcairiel | no |
| 08:45.03 | nevcairiel | on X-Embeds |
| 08:45.04 | nevcairiel | afaik |
| 08:45.22 | Xinhuan | so it goes back to X-Embeds |
| 08:45.30 | Xinhuan | which was what i thought the issue was |
| 08:45.36 | Lukian | orionshock, it should probably be set as a dependency for that addon |
| 08:45.50 | Lukian | given as, it probably doesn't work without it? |
| 08:45.54 | orionshock | nevcairiel: nope off externals |
| 08:46.00 | Xinhuan | no, a library cannot be a dependency because they can be embedded |
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| 08:47.02 | nevcairiel | i dont see it using externals, because externals can be formated in like a gazillion different ways |
| 08:47.31 | orionshock | nevcairiel: my tweenie-bloated addon dosn't have an X-Embeds field but has libs on the files site |
| 08:48.05 | Xinhuan | have you tried installing that addon alone, orionshock, "without externals" using WAU, with "automatic dependency download" on? |
| 08:48.05 | nevcairiel | whats your addons name? |
| 08:48.06 | orionshock | files site is doing a proper SVN check out , could just pull Dependants from that |
| 08:48.15 | Xinhuan | the issue here is WAU |
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| 08:48.20 | Xinhuan | not the svn client |
| 08:48.29 | orionshock | don't nessisarily have to, just check the xml file |
| 08:48.31 | Xinhuan | or the files site |
| 08:48.31 | nevcairiel | files site checks out without externals, the externals are put in by the script afterwards |
| 08:48.34 | nevcairiel | to save resources |
| 08:48.55 | orionshock | fuck if i know nevcairiel my guess is as good as yours |
| 08:49.07 | nevcairiel | whats your addons name ? =P |
| 08:49.14 | orionshock | FuBar_ReportAFK |
| 08:49.49 | nevcairiel | doesnt list dependancy information in the .xml |
| 08:49.50 | Xinhuan | anyway, fairly sure if you don't have the X-Embeds, it breaks WAU for certain configurations to download dependencies automatically |
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| 08:50.24 | orionshock | ... dam it, i killed the anthoray |
| 08:51.32 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/75785 |
| 08:51.35 | nevcairiel | see the difference |
| 08:51.40 | nevcairiel | yours doesnt list dep information |
| 08:51.45 | nevcairiel | BigBrother with X-Embeds set |
| 08:51.46 | nevcairiel | does |
| 08:52.15 | orionshock | well i stand corrected / informed |
| 08:52.47 | CIA-7 | 03scorpion * r53178 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 08:52.47 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 08:52.47 | CIA-7 | - Updated localization zhTW |
| 08:53.16 | sb | hm looks like i can dump trinketMenu now |
| 08:54.04 | orionshock | no.. i dosn't like autobar having trinkets |
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| 08:54.13 | sb | hmm why? |
| 08:55.09 | orionshock | b/c i like to manualy control me trinkets |
| 08:55.37 | sb | well it is manually? |
| 08:56.05 | orionshock | i'z like em where they are w/ itemrakz |
| 08:58.27 | orionshock | Xinhuan: / nevcairiel and it's still not WAU, it's the .xml file :P |
| 08:58.47 | Xinhuan | whats wrong with the XML then? |
| 08:59.48 | orionshock | the dependancys are compiled for the xml file by the X-Embeds, that's what im thinking tho it seems moot to mention it now |
| 08:59.49 | nevcairiel | its the addons fault for not specifying X-Embeds |
| 09:00.20 | orionshock | .. what nevcairiel said, it's not WAU being disfunctional it's the addon :D |
| 09:00.31 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 09:00.36 | Xinhuan | that's exactly what i said about 20 lines up |
| 09:00.41 | Xinhuan | the TOC is missing X-Embeds |
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| 09:01.12 | orionshock | >.<- |
| 09:01.14 | orionshock | i know.... |
| 09:06.07 | Xinhuan | ok, querying the server for 1 itemlink every 5 seconds, still eventually disconnects you after 1 minute |
| 09:06.19 | Xinhuan | (using an onupdate) |
| 09:06.39 | vith | querying a single bad item link disconnects you doesn't it? |
| 09:07.37 | [Ammo] | not anymore |
| 09:07.39 | [Ammo] | you just don't get results |
| 09:07.47 | vith | they changed it a third time? |
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| 09:08.24 | Xinhuan | yep they changed it again today or yesterday or something |
| 09:08.30 | vith | wow |
| 09:08.35 | Xinhuan | querying the server for like more than 5 itemlinks within 30 seconds d/cs you |
| 09:08.49 | orionshock | imo, i think that if it's invalid it should cache it to you locally but any atempt to other wise link it disconnects you |
| 09:08.53 | vith | i guess that's not a bad compromise |
| 09:09.01 | Xinhuan | i've been playing with my onupdate |
| 09:09.10 | Xinhuan | :sethyperlink() every 5 seconds |
| 09:09.15 | Xinhuan | and it still d/cs |
| 09:09.30 | sb | sylvanaar |
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| 09:10.13 | vith | i wish they'd just stop resetting the caches on restarts |
| 09:10.17 | Xinhuan | the limit was like 200 itemlink requests every 10 seconds or so about 2 weeks ago |
| 09:10.31 | Xinhuan | so you could get all 35000 itemIDs of queries in within about 5 minutes |
| 09:10.45 | Xinhuan | and pretty much datamine the entire thing of whatever the server has seen |
| 09:10.56 | vith | they should just broadcast a bitmask of the valid links |
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| 09:11.23 | vith | it's not like we don't already have wowhead etc |
| 09:11.35 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 09:11.46 | vith | not to mention armory now. |
| 09:12.16 | orionshock | the DB's at the armory and WoWhead =/= in game request and response |
| 09:13.00 | orionshock | -consider the bandwidth that would be /wasted/ if they allowed that, they wouldn't be able to keep the ping down on the servers |
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| 09:13.32 | sb | hey ckknight_ |
| 09:15.29 | Xinhuan | i think that's a pretty silly thing to consider orionshock, considering about 100 sites datamines the armory now |
| 09:15.43 | vith | maybe not armory but wowhead should be pretty close i'd think |
| 09:15.52 | sylvanaar | sb hm? |
| 09:16.30 | sb | sylvanaar: mhh - nvm, i already found the 'filter' option in elephant ;p perhaps WWS* should be in by default but... *shrug* |
| 09:16.40 | orionshock | in game traffic is way different than web traffic |
| 09:16.49 | vith | the point is, they're protecting "secrets" that aren't at all secrets |
| 09:16.57 | Xinhuan | its still traffic |
| 09:17.57 | orionshock | but game traffic need to have that responsiveness and not be cloged up by useless junk |
| 09:18.04 | cncfanatics | is this the debate show talent specs, don't show talent specs ? |
| 09:18.18 | orionshock | cncfanatics: itemlink quirys |
| 09:18.25 | Xinhuan | no, its about the server disconnecting more than 5 itemlink queries now |
| 09:18.32 | Xinhuan | if its done like within 30 secs |
| 09:18.51 | Xinhuan | this means if you just logged in with an empty cache |
| 09:18.56 | orionshock | and tbh the algarithum rock uses is pritty lean |
| 09:19.02 | Xinhuan | and clicked on a few chatlinks in the /2 channel |
| 09:19.03 | Bejitt | cncfanatics: so, yes |
| 09:19.05 | Xinhuan | you can get d/ced |
| 09:19.07 | vith | if they stopped resetting the caches, there wouldn't be many link queries and the information could be distributed by more efficient means |
| 09:19.10 | Bejitt | :D |
| 09:19.18 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, wth is that about ? |
| 09:19.37 | Xinhuan | it appears they added some anti spam thing about GameTooltip:SetHyperlink() |
| 09:19.45 | Xinhuan | to query the server for itemlinks that isn't in your local cache |
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| 09:19.52 | Xinhuan | query too many, you get d/ced |
| 09:20.18 | Xinhuan | last week the limit was about 200 per 15 seconds... now its like 5 per 30 seconds |
| 09:21.03 | cncfanatics | the server shld stop replying then |
| 09:21.06 | cncfanatics | not disconnect |
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| 09:24.13 | Lukian | the server 'assumes' it's under a flood of incoming requests, so disconnects the client to save inbound bandwidth, I guess. |
| 09:24.47 | Lukian | but yeah, if you perform multiple /who's too close to each other, simply not responding is better than disconnecting :( |
| 09:29.19 | Xinhuan | for the multiple /who case |
| 09:29.24 | CIA-7 | 03sylvanaar * r53180 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua: Prat: Restore the hideborder setting onenable |
| 09:29.26 | Xinhuan | its the wow.exe client that isn't sending them |
| 09:29.37 | Xinhuan | until it is ok to send them |
| 09:29.51 | orionshock | should do the same with the item links too |
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| 09:33.52 | Diao | hmm |
| 09:34.05 | kebinusan | sylvanaar: TYVM |
| 09:34.07 | Diao | is my guild ready to attempt VR if we can down gruul in 12 growths :o |
| 09:34.37 | kebinusan | diao, maybe, vr and astromancer are both really easy now |
| 09:34.42 | [Ammo] | I'd say you'll struggle, but if you don't have deaths you can handle it |
| 09:34.44 | cncfanatics | ur guild is rdy for VR if u can down nightbane tbh :p |
| 09:34.47 | kebinusan | I think astromancer is easier |
| 09:34.49 | kebinusan | but *shrugs* |
| 09:35.02 | Diao | well |
| 09:35.07 | Diao | we got nightbane down on our 2nd attempt |
| 09:35.15 | Diao | cause first attempt we didn't really know what was going on lol |
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| 09:35.35 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r53182 10Ace3/Ace3.toc: Ace3: point toc the correct way as well |
| 09:35.54 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r53183 10Ace3/embeds.xml: Ace3: and nuke embeds.xml |
| 09:36.32 | [Ammo] | astromancer is easier than VR atm |
| 09:36.33 | cncfanatics | VR is eas imo, though I don't raid anymore, giev 70 char |
| 09:36.40 | [Ammo] | VR is still sort of a gear check |
| 09:36.47 | [Ammo] | astromancer is a brain check |
| 09:37.33 | kebinusan | yeah, I think you may run into issues beating the enrage timer on VR at that gear level, I dunno though depends on how many idiots cant avoid floating orbs |
| 09:37.43 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r53184 10Ace3/Ace3.toc: Ace3: nuke X-Embeds line as well |
| 09:37.46 | Diao | well |
| 09:37.59 | Diao | we don't really lose anyone on shatters |
| 09:38.02 | cncfanatics | if u don't have idiots that can't avoid bolts u shld be fine |
| 09:38.06 | Diao | so hopefully people can avoid the orbs |
| 09:38.29 | CIA-7 | 03xinhuan * r53185 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Disable (commented out) automatic requesting of itemlinks from the server when loading a profile due to new server anti-spam disconnecting measures. *Shakes Fists* |
| 09:39.55 | Xinhuan | you're fine Diao, for dps on VR |
| 09:39.58 | cncfanatics | does VR orb melee ? can't remember |
| 09:40.06 | Xinhuan | you'll probbaly kill him with 2-3 minutes to spare |
| 09:40.06 | kebinusan | no |
| 09:40.14 | Xinhuan | however, you'll need 4 tanks |
| 09:40.20 | kebinusan | but if you have people standing too close or they run out for pound |
| 09:40.23 | kebinusan | they can get orbed |
| 09:40.28 | Diao | we have 4 warriors with about same gear |
| 09:40.30 | Xinhuan | if you don't have 4 tanks you're unlikely to kill him |
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| 09:40.40 | Xinhuan | for your gear level that is |
| 09:40.53 | Xinhuan | doesn't have to be warriors |
| 09:40.56 | kebinusan | feral druids are nice for that fight since they seem to dodge the deaggro quite well |
| 09:41.00 | Xinhuan | can be druid tanks, pally tanks or warr tanks |
| 09:41.11 | Diao | well |
| 09:41.18 | Diao | we've got 1 prot pally but she's in pre-kara blues cause it's an alt |
| 09:41.25 | Diao | and 1 feral druid in kinda decent tanking gear |
| 09:41.40 | Diao | mostly because for some reason all our druids want to be resto or balance rather than feral |
| 09:41.52 | kebinusan | I wont let balance druids raid |
| 09:41.54 | Diao | while all our warriors like prot so we all have kinda nice tanking gear |
| 09:42.18 | Xinhuan | yep these new disconnecting measures on the server are also what is causing itemDB users to d/c on login lol! |
| 09:42.54 | Diao | lol |
| 09:43.17 | Diao | so one of my guild hunters just logged in after being on ptr |
| 09:43.21 | Diao | he thinks the change to hunters is op |
| 09:43.29 | Diao | he's able to melee AND shoot people at the same time |
| 09:43.42 | Diao | so being in melee range is no longer a disadvantage for him lol |
| 09:43.46 | winkiller | bah |
| 09:43.56 | [Ammo] | until he gets chopped in half by a warrior |
| 09:44.16 | Diao | lol |
| 09:44.30 | orionshock | Diao: and he's right |
| 09:44.32 | nevcairiel | imho its wrong tho, they should set the limit somewhere around either melee or shoot |
| 09:44.44 | Diao | i don't think he'll worry about it at considering he's got like 20% dodge |
| 09:44.45 | nevcairiel | no deadzone, but not both available |
| 09:44.45 | Diao | with monkey on |
| 09:44.59 | orionshock | either that or increese the chance to miss while in the deadzone |
| 09:45.49 | cncfanatics | deadzone is 4 yards |
| 09:45.52 | cncfanatics | melee is 3 yards |
| 09:45.55 | Diao | uh |
| 09:45.57 | Diao | not anymore cncfanatics |
| 09:46.02 | cncfanatics | they changed it again ? :o |
| 09:46.04 | sb | uhm |
| 09:46.05 | cncfanatics | what did thety do ? |
| 09:46.06 | sb | its 1y |
| 09:46.07 | Diao | on ptr they changed it so ranged attacks have a 1-35 yd range |
| 09:46.11 | Diao | 1-41 if talented |
| 09:46.23 | Diao | and hunters are able to melee WHILE shooting |
| 09:46.26 | Diao | if in melee range |
| 09:46.29 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 09:46.30 | kebinusan | wtf |
| 09:46.37 | cncfanatics | u'd want to be in melee to increase dps then |
| 09:46.38 | Diao | i can just imagine hunters now |
| 09:46.40 | cncfanatics | ^prolly a bug |
| 09:46.41 | Diao | instead of going away to kite |
| 09:46.43 | kebinusan | I thought they just got rid of the deadzone as in, they could melee or shoot ranged |
| 09:46.43 | Diao | they'll conc shot |
| 09:46.45 | Diao | to catch up to you |
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| 09:46.48 | Diao | wing clip |
| 09:46.51 | Diao | for imp wing clip proc |
| 09:46.56 | Diao | then mortal aimed shot you in the face |
| 09:47.04 | Diao | all while autoshotting the entire time |
| 09:47.07 | Diao | :\ |
| 09:47.12 | nevcairiel | and autoattacking in melee |
| 09:47.15 | Diao | yep |
| 09:47.16 | kebinusan | sounds like a bug |
| 09:47.19 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53186 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data_esES.lua Talented_Data_frFR.lua): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 09:47.23 | Diao | and arcane shots for dispel |
| 09:47.25 | Diao | when necessary |
| 09:47.45 | kebinusan | I dislike giving hutners a dispel and mortal shot |
| 09:47.53 | kebinusan | seems like a very uncreative way to try and fix a broken class |
| 09:48.10 | Diao | well i sure hope it's a bug |
| 09:48.10 | evl | so what, once you get within melee range of a hunter he's dead |
| 09:48.13 | Diao | because if not |
| 09:48.20 | Diao | a hunters are now the new class of doom |
| 09:48.33 | Diao | minus the a |
| 09:48.33 | evl | they're still rogue + warrior food |
| 09:48.51 | nevcairiel | ya they only moved up in the killing order |
| 09:48.52 | Diao | not exactly |
| 09:49.07 | Diao | good hunter will know how to exploit that range perfectly :\ |
| 09:49.21 | Diao | remember he still has traps scattershot |
| 09:49.22 | CIA-7 | 03orionshock * r53187 10FuBar_ReportAFK/FuBar_ReportAFK.toc: |
| 09:49.22 | CIA-7 | FuBar_ReportAFK: |
| 09:49.22 | CIA-7 | -update x-embeds |
| 09:49.30 | Diao | and possibly bm or deterrence depending on spec |
| 09:49.49 | cncfanatics | its a bug, most probably |
| 09:49.51 | cncfanatics | so report it :) |
| 09:49.59 | Diao | well |
| 09:50.03 | Diao | it's on the tooltips |
| 09:50.05 | Diao | for the hunter shots |
| 09:50.09 | Diao | :p |
| 09:50.10 | Gngsk | don't have scatter shot if they have bm |
| 09:50.25 | Diao | well either or |
| 09:50.31 | Diao | both are great for getting out of range |
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| 09:52.06 | cncfanatics | I mean |
| 09:52.11 | cncfanatics | melee'ing while ranging too is a bug |
| 09:53.00 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:54.28 | cncfanatics | don't care they removed deadzone thoug |
| 09:54.35 | cncfanatics | I'll juststand at 0 yards |
| 09:54.51 | Diao | that means you have to be on top of them |
| 09:54.51 | Diao | lol |
| 09:56.31 | Diao | wow |
| 09:56.35 | Diao | looks like if you whine enough you'll get what you want |
| 09:56.38 | Diao | Threat reduction from Fanaticism includes an exclusion for Righteous Fury, good change, nice to see quick response from Blizzard on a paladin issue! |
| 09:56.38 | Diao | P.S. Do people actually tank as Ret? Really? |
| 09:57.26 | cncfanatics | Diao, QQ more ? |
| 09:57.38 | orionshock | Fanaticism = talen? |
| 09:57.41 | orionshock | Fanaticism = talent? |
| 09:57.42 | cncfanatics | I don't see how that change hurts you to QQ |
| 09:57.47 | cncfanatics | yea, deep ret |
| 09:58.06 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.30 | Diao | lol |
| 09:58.35 | Diao | it doesn't |
| 09:59.01 | orionshock | ret pallys need to respec holy or delete their toon |
| 09:59.02 | cncfanatics | then dln |
| 09:59.02 | Diao | i just find it funny that after ret paladins finally got what they asked for (threat reduction) they asked for more |
| 09:59.05 | cncfanatics | then don't QQ ? :p |
| 09:59.09 | Diao | i'm not qqing |
| 09:59.15 | cncfanatics | they asked for "more", they asked for a fix, and ur QQ'ing a lot now ) |
| 09:59.32 | cncfanatics | orionshock, die & let people play how they want, they pay their account not you |
| 09:59.39 | orionshock | i know |
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| 10:02.48 | orionshock | so i guess i should go round file my alt-pally :D |
| 10:03.27 | Ozguli | http://crap.teurasporsaat.org/?i=5654 paladins |
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| 10:09.17 | chexsum | ret pally and smite priest ftw in 2v2 |
| 10:10.16 | nevcairiel | and who does dmg? |
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| 10:17.36 | Industrial | urmom |
| 10:21.23 | sb | mhh is it possible to manipulate 2.3 minimap display? (quest marks and stuff) |
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| 10:24.28 | kebinusan | just means healers will go OOM faster, I approve |
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| 10:26.51 | baer_ | moin. |
| 10:28.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:56] <Diao> P.S. Do people actually tank as Ret? Really? <--5 man non-heroics, karazhan, sure. hell, i could heal heroics if my healgear was better, same for tanking/tank gear. |
| 10:29.14 | sag_ich_nicht | also from where is that information diao? |
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| 10:29.41 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 10:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock |
| 10:29.45 | sag_ich_nicht | DIAF |
| 10:30.14 | Diao | reading the pally forums |
| 10:30.21 | Diao | i just copy pasted from it |
| 10:30.48 | Diao | rofl wtf |
| 10:30.48 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108239339&sid=1 |
| 10:30.52 | Diao | awesome thread |
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| 10:34.39 | stavmar | is there any information regarding the use of the backup .xml file to restore your addons? |
| 10:36.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Diao:well i don't see anything about righteous fury disabling fanaticism threat reduction |
| 10:36.19 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2520310160&sid=1 |
| 10:36.26 | Diao | take a look at the screenshot |
| 10:37.45 | sag_ich_nicht | wooo |
| 10:38.15 | sb | Diao: so? :o |
| 10:38.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i am now absolutely, positively happy with my paladin, only thing blizzard needs to do now is merge some talents |
| 10:38.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ret and prot have way too many talents |
| 10:39.26 | Diao | ? |
| 10:39.30 | Diao | so what? |
| 10:40.28 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially it's so fat that i need a crane to get out of AV starting cave. |
| 10:40.34 | Diao | lol |
| 10:40.53 | Diao | yeah having them merge talents |
| 10:41.00 | Diao | like they did for druids |
| 10:41.06 | Diao | would be nice for a lot of classes |
| 10:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
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| 10:48.33 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53188 10Talented_Data/scripts/ (5 files): |
| 10:48.33 | CIA-7 | Talented_Data: |
| 10:48.33 | CIA-7 | _ create a global config file for all generation scripts. |
| 10:48.33 | CIA-7 | _ reuse table cache indexes from previous generation, as this will reduce the size of the corresponding patch. |
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| 10:54.50 | CIA-7 | Threat-1.0: |
| 10:54.50 | CIA-7 | - Update zhTW translation. |
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| 11:19.29 | Hjalte | Damn. I haven't played a lot of arena games on my warlock, but I wish someone had told me earlier about sacrificing my voidwalker for shield and then summoning my other pet, because i had never thought about that >.< |
| 11:23.07 | Diao | lol |
| 11:23.10 | Diao | that gets dispelled so quick :( |
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| 11:26.50 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r53190 10Ace3/ (Ace3.lua Ace3.toc): Ace3: add Ace3.lua standalone file, used to put in the handy dev commands etc. |
| 11:26.56 | stavmar | what does Ace2 Override mean? |
| 11:27.47 | stavmar | Hjalte: and your temmates need to go attack at exactly the right time, too many variables to make that work? |
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| 11:29.17 | Lukian | stavmar, it means "the last release which used ace2" (rather than a different library) |
| 11:29.38 | stavmar | aah before Rock? |
| 11:29.46 | Lukian | yes |
| 11:29.48 | stavmar | ty |
| 11:33.13 | Hjalte | stavmar: I do have basic knowledge of how to pvp, I just hasnt thought of using my vw's shield in that way. |
| 11:33.41 | Hjalte | hadnt* |
| 11:35.08 | Lukian | what'd I miss? |
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| 11:54.10 | neenee | DaHud looks quite nice |
| 11:54.41 | neenee | But if I use it, I know that I'll be using too many addons soon again |
| 11:56.07 | Diao | screenshot? |
| 11:57.59 | neenee | http://i24.tinypic.com/iq8v1f.gif |
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| 11:58.22 | neenee | er, you probably meant this: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9408.0;attach=3409 |
| 11:58.23 | neenee | :P |
| 11:58.30 | Industrial | its nice but I don't like huds in general |
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| 11:59.01 | Industrial | if you have a hud whats the purpose of your unitframes? |
| 11:59.02 | neenee | Do you use the default frames too then? |
| 11:59.11 | neenee | I think it replaced unit frames. |
| 11:59.14 | Industrial | yes, but under my character |
| 12:00.04 | neenee | oki |
| 12:00.10 | Industrial | the DaHud style/textures are very nice tho |
| 12:00.10 | JoshBorke | i use a hud because it puts health information in a central place |
| 12:00.18 | Industrial | JoshBorke: so do unitframes? |
| 12:00.22 | neenee | Simple Unitframes here |
| 12:00.26 | JoshBorke | Industrial: i put mine off to the side |
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| 12:01.25 | Industrial | http://bildr.no/image/115455.jpeg |
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| 12:01.58 | Industrial | lol @ chat btw |
| 12:02.05 | Industrial | go trade pokemon cards. mmorpg is not for kids. |
| 12:02.21 | Provus | Pitbull was hard to configure but I like it the most now that it's set up. |
| 12:02.46 | Provus | The mod author should really consider turning all the doodad features off by default. |
| 12:02.58 | Industrial | and not having all the default modules be default |
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| 12:03.08 | Industrial | eg health bar and mana and buffs only |
| 12:03.24 | Industrial | and move all the modules out of the pitbull folder |
| 12:03.44 | Industrial | every time I configure pitbull I ditch most of the modules |
| 12:03.47 | Industrial | >_> |
| 12:03.53 | Provus | http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07433/progress2.PNG My WIP new interface. |
| 12:04.13 | Provus | I got focus to the left and target to the right. |
| 12:04.15 | sb | hmhm |
| 12:04.21 | Grum | so many buttons O.o |
| 12:04.22 | sb | where is the interface |
| 12:04.26 | sb | ah |
| 12:04.26 | Industrial | hats alotta buttons |
| 12:04.34 | Provus | 108. |
| 12:04.42 | Industrial | are you a clicker? |
| 12:04.43 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:04.45 | Provus | No. |
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| 12:04.53 | Grum | lol |
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| 12:05.07 | Grum | install autobar - that will kill ~50 of em :) |
| 12:05.11 | Provus | Ew. |
| 12:05.35 | Industrial | do you have a 46 key long keyboard? |
| 12:05.36 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:05.46 | Provus | Well of course there are things I click on. Just not combat abilities. |
| 12:05.54 | Lukian | the first thing I do is line up my fubar stuff, Provus :p |
| 12:06.02 | Grum | Provus: all those portals .. 1 button in autobar |
| 12:06.04 | sb | http://bdv.db6.org/forum/download/file.php?id=30&mode=view <-- mine :p and yes, 92mb is fine! :P |
| 12:06.07 | Grum | not 10 O.o |
| 12:06.30 | Industrial | I have 48 buttons, 1-6, shift, ctrl, alt, shift-ctrl, shift-alt, ctrl-alt, shift-ctrl-alt |
| 12:06.31 | Grum | gems - 1 button .. not 10 |
| 12:06.38 | ScoTTie | autobar rocks as a mage ;\ |
| 12:06.39 | Provus | Well, see, I actually was really generous on the buttons on purpose. |
| 12:06.45 | ScoTTie | couldnt live without it |
| 12:06.46 | Provus | I had two options |
| 12:06.51 | Provus | Either two rows of buttons, or three rows. |
| 12:06.59 | Industrial | I can show 6 buttons if I want, to operate 48 |
| 12:07.02 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:07.06 | Provus | Two rows of buttons made tracking cooldowns on a lot of my main stuff in combat harder because they were more spread out left to right |
| 12:07.15 | Provus | Three rows allows me to put more essential combat buttons in the center. |
| 12:07.41 | Provus | All the buttons look very nice. |
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| 12:07.44 | Provus | So I went with that. |
| 12:08.12 | Grum | so many buttons! O.o |
| 12:08.15 | Grum | ;D |
| 12:08.33 | Provus | Also, gems I like keeping to many buttons so I can look at that area and determine what gems are up. |
| 12:08.41 | Provus | In Arathi Basin I chew through them pretty fast. |
| 12:08.43 | Grum | ~taser Industrial |
| 12:08.44 | purl | ACTION stuns Industrial with a taser, then drags Industrial out into the middle of highway 666 |
| 12:08.45 | orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: ? |
| 12:08.57 | Provus | And sometimes I just remade an emerald, and later on I would think I still had a ruby afterward, but I didn't. |
| 12:09.12 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53191 10Talented_Data/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: Added zhTW locale, from the armory data. |
| 12:09.14 | Provus | That allows me to make gems and monitor them individually. I suppose all the teleport and portal buttons are just 'filler' |
| 12:09.16 | NeoTron | too early execetus |
| 12:09.20 | NeoTron | it's too early |
| 12:09.42 | Provus | Flexbar2's dreamlayout makes buttons look so damn nice. |
| 12:10.14 | NeoTron | so if ppl are on a conf call and have a loud keyboard for the love of god mute the microphone |
| 12:10.27 | Grum | i could easily remove ~30 buttons :) |
| 12:10.53 | Industrial | I want to have every action keybound |
| 12:11.22 | Grum | every? O.o |
| 12:11.23 | Provus | I already explained the three row vs two row thing. |
| 12:11.32 | Grum | Provus: you can still have 3 rows |
| 12:11.40 | Grum | you dont have to make it screen filling O.o |
| 12:11.42 | Industrial | Grum: yes all of them. The ones I don't use I don't use tho. Like Eyes of the Beast |
| 12:11.54 | Provus | I wanted it to line up with the minimap, I wanted the bottom of my screen to go from side to side, I didn't want a big blank space. |
| 12:11.58 | Industrial | or Eagle Eyes |
| 12:11.59 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:12.02 | Grum | Industrial: that is 1 button for a hunter ;D |
| 12:12.19 | NeoTron | never use eagle eyes? whut? |
| 12:12.23 | cryogen | vhaarr: would be really cool if closeetgnome had a "update" option, or at least the add screen defaulted to selecting only the items included in the current set |
| 12:12.24 | Grum | Provus: put your buffs there ;D |
| 12:12.26 | NeoTron | it's quite a nice spell I think |
| 12:12.28 | Provus | Plus, I tried autobar before. It was a pain to configure, and the buttons used the ugly default textures. |
| 12:12.33 | cryogen | i have a helm only set, and its very annoying to update :) |
| 12:12.35 | Industrial | NeoTron: for what? :| |
| 12:12.44 | Provus | It was a long time ago |
| 12:12.50 | Grum | Provus: cycircled can fix that :) |
| 12:13.04 | vhaarr | cryogen: it does |
| 12:13.05 | Provus | Not a big fan of Cycircled. |
| 12:13.13 | Grum | next to that it has dreamlayout as well |
| 12:13.20 | Provus | I think it makes the buttons look too flashy. |
| 12:13.26 | Industrial | Provus: make your own actionbar. It's pretty easy. |
| 12:13.27 | cryogen | vhaarr: since when? |
| 12:13.30 | Grum | i dont really get that name, it's just 'enlarge icons and no borders' |
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| 12:13.40 | Industrial | Grum: thats not dreamlayout |
| 12:13.51 | Industrial | dreamlayout has a little border too |
| 12:13.51 | vhaarr | cryogen: since months ago |
| 12:14.04 | Grum | little transparant border then |
| 12:14.04 | cryogen | vhaarr: where? :) |
| 12:14.06 | Provus | Cycircled doesn't have dreamlayout, I've looked. |
| 12:14.08 | Provus | Unless this is recent. |
| 12:14.16 | Zicon | Dreamlayout is named by someone who posted mockups of his/her dream layout, isn't it? |
| 12:14.23 | Industrial | Provus: it does, always has |
| 12:14.30 | Industrial | Zicon: yes |
| 12:14.32 | Provus | Not in the default package. |
| 12:14.36 | Grum | Provus: autobar itself has dreamlayout selection |
| 12:14.39 | Provus | I've tried every single skin. |
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| 12:14.42 | Industrial | fine. Ill install it now. |
| 12:14.50 | Grum | but what is 'dreamlayout' exactly? |
| 12:14.59 | Grum | tiny border and no art? |
| 12:15.23 | Provus | Dreamlayout is the button borders removed, showing the icon art in full, space apart perfectly. |
| 12:15.26 | Provus | spaced* |
| 12:15.43 | Provus | If it's not spaced perfectly, it looks ugly. |
| 12:15.46 | Grum | spacing is personal so basicly 'no art' |
| 12:16.00 | Provus | Actually flexbar2 spaces all the buttons quite well. |
| 12:16.09 | Grum | just a setting i assume |
| 12:16.23 | Industrial | Provus: you are right |
| 12:16.24 | Provus | Flexbar2 is really nice. I can't wait until the 2.3 API helps it out. |
| 12:16.41 | Grum | in what way provus? (helping out that is) |
| 12:16.54 | Provus | Right now I have to bind a few of my buttons through invisible Bongo bars cause they're macros and Flexbar2 is going to have limited macro compatibility until 2.3 |
| 12:17.06 | Hjalte | Grum: It will be able to handle macros better and petbars |
| 12:17.28 | Grum | so somewhere in december we might have proper fully working bars? \o/ |
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| 12:17.47 | Provus | One thing cnc is going to look into is making the water elemental button turn into a Freeze button for me when the pet is summoned. |
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| 12:18.05 | Provus | 2.3 shouldn't be too far away now. Probably two weeks. |
| 12:19.10 | Provus | I'm surprised no one mentioned my Pitbull settings though. I think the flat bar texture and the way they're positioned looks really nice. |
| 12:19.18 | Provus | That was a bitch to set up. |
| 12:19.44 | Grum | mmm |
| 12:19.49 | Grum | what was the problem with it |
| 12:20.19 | Provus | There's so many settings it's hard to sort through. |
| 12:20.32 | dieck | has anyone a good screenshot for a 25man raid heal interface? I think mine is quite to untidy :) |
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| 12:21.12 | Grum | grid |
| 12:22.13 | Provus | I didn't like the default settings at all. I thought all the text was really hard to read and it didn't do a good job of displaying my health and mana. Once I changed up the font and used the 'flat' bar texture, resized them a bit, and changed the format of the health display, it was all good. |
| 12:23.13 | dieck | already use that :) aguf for myself and focus, necb splitted to different timers, mendwatch, omen, think I'll just have to tidy up a bit :) |
| 12:24.50 | cryogen | vhaarr: ah shift-click, nice and hidden.. right there in front of me :) |
| 12:25.16 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53192 10Ace3/tests/runall.sh: |
| 12:25.16 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 12:25.16 | CIA-7 | - Add "runall.sh" for the "zomg halp halp i cant run .bat" bunch |
| 12:25.32 | Industrial | heh |
| 12:25.47 | sb | can i has ac3 plz? |
| 12:25.56 | sb | ace :/ |
| 12:27.08 | JoshBorke | no |
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| 12:30.19 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53193 10Ace3/tests/runall.sh: |
| 12:30.19 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 12:30.19 | CIA-7 | - Whoups, maybe copy over the edited version from my linux box first ... |
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| 12:31.07 | |Stan| | ~fail Mikk |
| 12:31.08 | purl | Mikk: Fail. |
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| 12:48.22 | Speeddymon_ | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 12:48.25 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 186 messages. Is idling for 2h 38m 9s, last said: 'and who does dmg?'. |
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| 12:49.54 | Speeddymon_ | nevcairiel, the rep bar in bt3 has some serious issues... ones that the xp bar doesn't have |
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| 13:04.39 | baer_ | does bigwigs notify, if the players are targeted by Void Reaver's arcane balls? |
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| 13:05.10 | baer_ | i mean, does the targeted player get a notification? |
| 13:06.23 | SunTsu | baer_: Yes they get one |
| 13:06.31 | baer_ | SunTsu: many thanks. |
| 13:07.05 | SunTsu | don't ask me how, because as the tank I never was targeted, but they were noticed. And the get a mark, skull, IIRC |
| 13:07.48 | baer_ | SunTsu: the background is that our healers are only staring at the HP bars of the raid and sometimes... forget to move away or run into other raid members. |
| 13:08.41 | baer_ | so some whispered notification, screaming in teamspeak2 or even moving away from 'em helps. :-} |
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| 13:09.56 | SunTsu | baer_: I can remember somebody said that there was a shaking, but I don't know wether BigWigs oder DBM did that |
| 13:10.18 | kebinusan | usually you have to turn on whisper notifications for w/e boss mod IIRC |
| 13:10.56 | SunTsu | And tell something like ora2 not to block those ;) |
| 13:11.21 | kebinusan | no, the whispers shouldnt get blocked regardless |
| 13:11.37 | kebinusan | bigwigs blocks the raid spam tho, its under extras I think, bossblock |
| 13:11.58 | kebinusan | or maybe plugins, I dont recall |
| 13:12.45 | kebinusan | and it only blocks seeing it not sending, for those idiot e-thugs that are too good to run mods |
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| 13:13.28 | baer_ | ok |
| 13:13.42 | baer_ | first night with VR tonight. :) |
| 13:13.49 | baer_ | i'm really looking forward to it. :) |
| 13:13.53 | kebinusan | Its nice |
| 13:14.26 | SunTsu | baer_: Tell the casters to put on arcane resi if they have some. Like that trinket from Karazhan. |
| 13:14.54 | baer_ | that helps? |
| 13:15.03 | kebinusan | tell them to just not get hit :-) |
| 13:15.15 | baer_ | that's the plan, kebinusan. :) |
| 13:15.40 | SunTsu | baer_: A lot. One of our healer had around 200 Arcane resistance and resisted most of the balls |
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| 13:15.49 | kebinusan | if they have chat bubbles turned on they will see something in /say, such as Im targeted by blah blah |
| 13:16.06 | kebinusan | lots of my healers found that useful |
| 13:16.21 | baer_ | kebinusan: ah ok, noticed. |
| 13:16.33 | baer_ | SunTsu: i guess nobody in the raid will get 5 |
| 13:16.47 | baer_ | around 200 AR. :) |
| 13:17.04 | baer_ | except for the feral druids, but they don't count since they are melees. |
| 13:17.11 | SunTsu | baer_: OK ;) But using the said trinket will help a great deal |
| 13:17.38 | baer_ | SunTsu: yup, noticed. :) |
| 13:17.50 | baer_ | hope they did not disenchant the stuff so far. |
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| 13:19.08 | Mecha | Any fix for Bongos vs cyCircled yet? :D |
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| 13:22.11 | kebinusan | its good to have some AR for astromancer, especially for healers or people with less than 9k health |
| 13:24.38 | sb | uhm no |
| 13:24.46 | sb | why? |
| 13:25.43 | baer_ | kebinusan: meanwhile everyone in the raid is around 10k hp (buffed). |
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| 13:26.30 | Grum | kebinusan: solarian? the violet badge is enough tbh :) |
| 13:27.45 | baer_ | yup, the arcane bolts from solarian have been changed in 2.1. |
| 13:27.58 | Tornhoof | you don't need any arcane resist for solarian 2.1 |
| 13:28.00 | baer_ | 2.2 |
| 13:28.02 | Grum | i resist ~40% of the dmg with just that badge |
| 13:28.04 | Tornhoof | or 2.2 |
| 13:28.18 | sb | VR > solarian :p |
| 13:28.18 | Grum | shield takes care of another ~30% |
| 13:29.36 | alext | bosskillers said in 2.2 that the arcane resist requirement for the raid was removed. |
| 13:29.36 | kebinusan | sure you dont need alot, but it helps mitigate alot of the AR damage |
| 13:29.39 | alext | ! |
| 13:29.43 | alext | relating to astromancer |
| 13:29.52 | Grum | kebinusan: i just make people wear that trinket |
| 13:29.55 | alext | we had our first attempts at him on tuesday, lol it was funny |
| 13:29.57 | Grum | a single trinket should not have much effect :) |
| 13:30.03 | alext | half the people forgot to move out of the raid when they got that debuff |
| 13:30.09 | alext | its funny to see the entire raid blown into the air and die in a pile |
| 13:30.12 | Grum | hehehe |
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| 13:30.22 | sb | -50dkp |
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| 13:30.33 | Tornhoof | it's funny once |
| 13:30.39 | sb | yup |
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| 13:30.43 | Grum | the latest DeadlyBossMobs plays a 'Run! Run like a little girl!' sound :D |
| 13:30.46 | Grum | it's brilliant ;D |
| 13:30.52 | kebinusan | heh |
| 13:30.56 | kebinusan | I like that |
| 13:30.59 | kebinusan | bigwigs should do that |
| 13:31.00 | Grum | yup :) |
| 13:31.06 | Grum | mmm lets make it do so? |
| 13:31.13 | kebinusan | for thalared too |
| 13:31.17 | baer_ | great idea. :) |
| 13:31.21 | ag` | Does it add functionality? |
| 13:31.23 | Chompers | sounds dumb |
| 13:31.28 | Grum | dumb? |
| 13:31.30 | Grum | it's so useful |
| 13:31.38 | Grum | visual queues suck |
| 13:31.54 | Nefarion | Hence the failure of the chat frame |
| 13:31.59 | kebinusan | A local sound is better than 5 people yelling at someone on vent |
| 13:32.00 | Grum | yup |
| 13:32.07 | Grum | we do both |
| 13:32.20 | Grum | i name the person within a second and he should have bigwigs/dbm |
| 13:32.54 | Nefarion | Does DBM have any handy features over BigWigs? |
| 13:32.59 | Grum | nope |
| 13:33.09 | Grum | not really |
| 13:33.10 | Nefarion | What about BW over DBM? |
| 13:33.16 | Grum | also dunno |
| 13:33.17 | Nefarion | Are they basically the same? |
| 13:33.21 | alext | i never used DBM |
| 13:33.24 | alext | but i always have used bigwigs |
| 13:33.27 | evl | Has any fix for that annoying fucking sound stuttering while aoe is going off been revealed? |
| 13:33.31 | alext | they both do basically the same thing |
| 13:33.34 | alext | most of my guild uses DBM |
| 13:33.38 | alext | the only thing i saw different |
| 13:33.41 | Nefarion | evl, yes |
| 13:33.41 | baer_ | has VR an enrage timer? |
| 13:33.42 | Grum | i use DBM mostly but that is more because i do the raidwarning and i dont want to switch to bigwigs unless i am use it will work |
| 13:33.44 | alext | was the "gruul silence" timer |
| 13:33.46 | evl | Nefarion: url plix |
| 13:33.48 | Grum | baer_: 10m |
| 13:33.50 | alext | they were different between BW and DBM |
| 13:33.54 | evl | Nefarion: almost gouged my eyes out in MH yesterday |
| 13:33.54 | alext | other than that, same thing |
| 13:33.56 | Nefarion | the sound issue has been addressed in 2.3 i think |
| 13:33.57 | baer_ | Grum: great, tx. |
| 13:34.14 | ag` | Sounds like DBM got voices of wierd people yelling stuff included |
| 13:34.19 | alext | sound issue wont be addressed till they give us hardware acceleration back! |
| 13:34.24 | Nefarion | if not there then it was on the forums. wasn't interested myself so closed it right out, so no link.. |
| 13:34.33 | Grum | ag`: sound > text imho |
| 13:34.34 | kebinusan | the run little girl sound is from the Bigbad wolf fight |
| 13:34.38 | Grum | yup |
| 13:34.54 | ag` | Sound > text, but depends on what the sound is |
| 13:35.16 | Grum | i agree but i find the temporary solution this one offers excellent |
| 13:35.20 | Nefarion | sound > text until they fuckup the sound engine, amirite? ^^ |
| 13:35.30 | ag` | if it's some try to be humorous voice I think I'll grow tired of it fast |
| 13:35.54 | alext | I was looking into using Parrot to provide a warning on the debuff that astromancer gives |
| 13:36.02 | alext | parrot has a great notification system |
| 13:36.16 | Grum | for example, i'd *LOVE* to have a soundwarning for those flamepatches @ Al'ar |
| 13:36.21 | Grum | those are so killing .. its not funny anymore |
| 13:36.34 | alext | you could prob make one using parrot at least, if you use that |
| 13:36.50 | alext | assuming when you stand in the flame patch, you get a debuff...if you know the name of a debuff you can make a notification rule in parrot |
| 13:36.55 | Grum | yeah but i'm unsure if it gives a debuff |
| 13:36.56 | alext | to display text and/or make a sound |
| 13:36.57 | Tornhoof | i play withotu sound ;) |
| 13:36.59 | alext | same |
| 13:37.04 | Grum | and i cant really check it unless i die hehehe |
| 13:37.09 | Grum | i might just do so with a SS O.o |
| 13:37.23 | Nefarion | Agh I can't give up sound. |
| 13:37.24 | alext | well if you get caught in one and your moving out, you would just need to glance at your debuff section real fast |
| 13:37.30 | kebinusan | It would be nice if BW had sound warmings as an option for certain events |
| 13:37.33 | alext | altho thats hard to do in the midst of combat |
| 13:37.45 | Grum | the problem is, as healer i dont really look @ where i am |
| 13:37.46 | alext | pretty sure bigwigs makes "dings" sometimes |
| 13:37.52 | Grum | i just focus on my grid |
| 13:38.11 | alext | i know when the warlock in the maulgar fight summons a fel stalker, bigwigs "dings" |
| 13:38.17 | Grum | i scan ever ~2s but that is too long |
| 13:38.21 | Nefarion | does walmart carry wow game cards? |
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| 13:39.19 | Livid` | anyone reccomend an ingame notepad of some sorts ? |
| 13:39.40 | haste | tinypad |
| 13:39.49 | Livid` | ty |
| 13:39.49 | Nefarion | Pay for my subscription and i'll get to work on mine >.> =P |
| 13:39.50 | dieck | Win+R - notepad and Alt+Tab afterwards ;) |
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| 13:41.12 | evl | Nefarion: https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=A132B9F87057D164C3D1E57FAD16B8C8?topicId=2288039949&postId=22877548809&sid=1 |
| 13:41.25 | evl | Apparent fix for most sound issues, will have to try as I get home |
| 13:41.51 | Nefarion | Hmm |
| 13:41.58 | Nefarion | interesting |
| 13:42.51 | Grum | what i hate is that you have your sound turned down a lot but for some reason at certain moments some sounds get played *FULL* volume |
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| 13:43.12 | evl | Grum: yeah, it's PlaySound() sometimes ignoring mute/volume |
| 13:43.36 | evl | I thankfully only experience that with Banzai, so my agro alert is always played on full volume :P |
| 13:43.44 | Nefarion | lol |
| 13:43.46 | Grum | yeah that is |
| 13:43.55 | Grum | but some gamesounds like .. channeling spells for example |
| 13:44.11 | CIA-7 | 03jncl * r53194 10Skinner/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:44.11 | CIA-7 | Skinner: Skinned BanKItems, MTLove, Ogri'Lazy |
| 13:44.11 | CIA-7 | - Added Viewport Left & Right code (from Astorax) |
| 13:44.11 | CIA-7 | - Updated code for PTR 2.3 (GuildBank partially skinned) |
| 13:44.11 | CIA-7 | - Updated Skillet skin |
| 13:44.31 | Grum | occasionally play at 100% volume .. having you sound audible @ ~20% .. 100% is quite loud ;D |
| 13:51.17 | Nefarion | does WoW recognize "É™"? |
| 13:51.22 | Nefarion | in a name.. |
| 13:51.42 | haste | try it :) ? |
| 13:51.52 | Nefarion | can't atm |
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| 13:53.33 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 13:53.33 | CIA-7 | - The wow_api dump() function will now use format("%q") to quote strings |
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| 14:13.28 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53196 10Ace3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:13.28 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - CallbackHandler: |
| 14:13.28 | CIA-7 | - ACE-50: Add optional argument to CallbackHandler's .RegisterCallback to be passed to callbacks |
| 14:13.28 | CIA-7 | - Fix a typo in :UnregisterAll() (gosh golly, this was never tested) |
| 14:13.28 | CIA-7 | - Add a BOATLOAD of tests for AceEvent (and hence CallbackHandler) logic |
| 14:13.29 | CIA-7 | - Add tests for CallbackHandler's API (not so much for the event driver, since the AceEvent tests test that plenty) |
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| 14:23.33 | stavmar | R U guys liking Hellgate London, the beta players? |
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| 14:24.29 | Nefarion | totally sucks |
| 14:24.41 | Nefarion | btw, what's Hellgate London? >> |
| 14:25.02 | Xinhuan | its a game from Flagship Studios |
| 14:25.06 | Xinhuan | to be released on Halloween |
| 14:25.19 | Xinhuan | it is a cross between WoW and Diablo II |
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| 14:25.34 | Xinhuan | with both subscription and nonsubcription based plans |
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| 14:25.42 | Xinhuan | and heavily instanced gameplay like d2 |
| 14:25.49 | Paradox | another so called "wow killer" |
| 14:25.50 | Nefarion | already sounds boring |
| 14:26.02 | Nefarion | lol "wow killer" |
| 14:26.43 | kebinusan | it also has really intrusive in game advertising |
| 14:27.06 | Nefarion | like how? |
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| 14:28.20 | kebinusan | http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8748/01sj3.jpg http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4857/02uq6.jpg http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/424/03qf7.jpg |
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| 14:29.09 | Nefarion | oh wow |
| 14:29.17 | Nefarion | that's the worst game sell-out i've seen |
| 14:29.27 | Paradox | ok, as soon as I seen the iPod poster, that was it |
| 14:29.40 | Nefarion | don't be rippin' on mah ipid! |
| 14:29.43 | Nefarion | ipod* |
| 14:29.55 | Nefarion | yeah that's pretty pathetic |
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| 14:33.57 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53198 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: |
| 14:33.57 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:33.57 | CIA-7 | - frFR Update |
| 14:38.11 | Xinhuan | actually |
| 14:38.17 | Xinhuan | hellgate london's setting is london |
| 14:38.21 | deltron | nowai |
| 14:38.27 | Xinhuan | hence its modeled after its parks, stations, etc |
| 14:38.31 | Xinhuan | so those ads in there |
| 14:38.42 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Who would have thought that? |
| 14:38.49 | Xinhuan | flagship studios paid huge money to get rights to put it in the game |
| 14:38.51 | stavmar | so overall how has the beta gone, my friend tells me he likes it, but I am a little weary |
| 14:39.00 | Xinhuan | rather than people paying flagship to put it in there |
| 14:39.07 | Nefarion | yeah i'm doubting it since they have an ad with their own game on it |
| 14:39.09 | Nefarion | lol |
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| 14:39.35 | Xinhuan | well if you liked both d2 and wow, you're likely to like this too |
| 14:39.43 | stavmar | Xinhuan: fair enough |
| 14:39.45 | Xinhuan | however, i'm not clear on the multiplayer aspects of the game |
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| 14:40.01 | Xinhuan | try the wikipedia page for start |
| 14:40.19 | Xinhuan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate:_London |
| 14:40.57 | Xinhuan | the demo from filefront for it is 1.46 gb |
| 14:41.03 | Paradox | where does WAU install to? |
| 14:41.19 | ag` | I think hellgate looked a bit dated though, from the 30 minutes I played the demo |
| 14:41.42 | Xinhuan | i don't know, graphics is really a personal taste thing |
| 14:42.11 | deltron | WoW has dated graphics |
| 14:43.29 | stavmar | my firend like the graphics versus WoW, he also like the fact that he did not need a very powerful system to play the game well |
| 14:44.32 | Xinhuan | its pretty hard to say something like that stavmar |
| 14:44.42 | Xinhuan | when you are soloing, vs having 30 other ppl near you |
| 14:44.48 | Xinhuan | graphics has a huge effect |
| 14:44.55 | stavmar | Xinhuan: that is true |
| 14:46.50 | stavmar | In the end he feels it is a casual game much closer to diablo than anything else |
| 14:47.05 | Xinhuan | that's simply because |
| 14:47.08 | Trell_ | we've had a ret pally apply in anticipation of 2.3 |
| 14:47.11 | Trell_ | worth it? |
| 14:47.12 | Xinhuan | Hellgate london is |
| 14:47.21 | Xinhuan | a game geared towards small group play |
| 14:47.22 | deltron | Trell_: yeah probably |
| 14:47.25 | Xinhuan | much like diablo2 is |
| 14:47.28 | Fisker- | Hellgate sucks |
| 14:47.38 | Xinhuan | while wow is geared towards larger scale play |
| 14:47.38 | Trell_ | TF2 is my new fave game |
| 14:47.39 | baer_ | hmm... is there any known issue between cycircled and bongos2? |
| 14:47.51 | Xinhuan | you can think of it like DOTA |
| 14:47.51 | Trell_ | i like it even more than portal; which is quite awesome, since portal is amazing too. |
| 14:48.02 | Xinhuan | its geared towards small group play and |
| 14:48.03 | kenlyric | to be fair, wow had dated graphics when it was released :) |
| 14:48.13 | deltron | TF2 is so awesome |
| 14:48.14 | Xinhuan | small group play games are often more competitive in nature because such games are way easier to balance |
| 14:48.20 | Xinhuan | eg: warcraft, starcraft |
| 14:48.20 | Trell_ | yeah deltron - I love it. |
| 14:48.22 | Xinhuan | dota |
| 14:48.25 | Xinhuan | TF2 |
| 14:48.29 | Xinhuan | quake, UT |
| 14:48.41 | kenlyric | i miss onslaught. |
| 14:48.49 | Fisker- | that means me! |
| 14:49.17 | Fisker- | since i already gave them some revenue by them putting ads into the demo |
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| 14:51.16 | deltron | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17193-paladin_retribution_dps_theorycraft/ |
| 14:51.19 | deltron | ^^ |
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| 14:52.51 | Nefarion | TT |
| 14:52.53 | Nefarion | ^^* |
| 14:53.09 | winkiller | blessingofkings had such a nicely written post lately |
| 14:53.17 | winkiller | about the 4 different kinds of pallies |
| 14:54.47 | Nefarion | okay i'm off to bed....at 10 am |
| 14:55.34 | kadrahil | wasn't i talking to him like yesterday afternoon? :o |
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| 14:58.06 | Kirkburn | Blizzard have launched a World of Warcraft Online Atlas - http://wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/basics/flight/en/main/index.htm |
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| 14:58.45 | stavmar | Kirkburn: it is pretty sweet |
| 14:59.54 | Paradox | where does WAU install to? |
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| 15:00.07 | winkiller | a good question :P damn .net stuff |
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| 15:06.41 | NeoTron | note to self: before landing, dismounting and picking an herb |
| 15:06.54 | NeoTron | ensure Doomwalker is not nearby (he did miss noticing me but barely) |
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| 15:09.32 | Erica | Hi... any recommendations on a timer bar mod that will work well with my alts as well as a project that's still ongoing with regular updates? |
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| 15:09.36 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
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| 15:09.36 | CIA-7 | - Boss: copy the missing bosses from PeriodicTable-3.0-InstanceLoot to Babble-Boss-2.2.lua |
| 15:09.36 | CIA-7 | - Boss: updated zhTW localization |
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| 15:11.56 | Fisker- | oh oh |
| 15:12.03 | Fisker- | a translator doing more than translating |
| 15:12.05 | Fisker- | cue drama plx |
| 15:13.03 | kebinusan | Erica: what are you looking for in a timer bar |
| 15:13.26 | Erica | mainly, I want one that works well with hunter traps... both arming and when they go off |
| 15:13.31 | evl | I use SorrenTimers |
| 15:13.35 | evl | works very well :P |
| 15:13.53 | kebinusan | I use hourglass mostly for cooldowns |
| 15:13.53 | Erica | only problem I saw with sorren's timers is that it doesn't seem to work right with snake traps |
| 15:14.12 | evl | I don't know if there's any timer mods that are currently being updatsed |
| 15:14.23 | Saroz | there are like 10 cooldown mods in SVN |
| 15:14.23 | Saroz | fgs |
| 15:14.39 | Saroz | why cant they focus on making one uber mod, instead of 10 shit mods |
| 15:14.44 | Erica | I guess it's a lot to ask to actually find one that works for alts too |
| 15:14.54 | kebinusan | Id say take a look at hourglass |
| 15:15.00 | grzesieq | uhm, any way to leave the acecomm chan? |
| 15:15.01 | kebinusan | it works well enough for me at least |
| 15:15.14 | Erica | ok I'll check it out... thanks |
| 15:15.17 | Saroz | there is no acecomm channel |
| 15:15.32 | grzesieq | well something keeps joining it |
| 15:15.37 | grzesieq | and there are people in it ;s |
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| 15:21.13 | Hjalte | grzesieq: You must have some very old addon then, I think. |
| 15:26.36 | evl | hourglass is uber |
| 15:26.41 | evl | i'm completely subjective |
| 15:26.42 | evl | *cough* |
| 15:28.32 | Fisker- | I AM GOING TO COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DESTROY YOU evl |
| 15:28.47 | Fisker- | oh and get a caps-locked name so i can cruise control |
| 15:29.21 | kenlyric | seriously, typing those three additional letters in caps would have been hard? |
| 15:29.27 | kenlyric | what did you do, e-Tab? |
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| 15:30.56 | kadrahil | Fisker- = fail |
| 15:31.02 | kadrahil | i mean, he's like the essence of fail |
| 15:31.15 | kadrahil | or a primal fail! |
| 15:31.17 | pastamancer | caps lock is cruise control for cool |
| 15:31.27 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 15:31.31 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: let me kill you 6 times in game! |
| 15:31.35 | JoshBorke | pretty please! |
| 15:31.38 | JoshBorke | you can kill me 10 :-D |
| 15:31.46 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: i haven't played my hunter in 2 weeks :( |
| 15:31.53 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: i've been rerolling alliance on korgath |
| 15:32.56 | evl | Fisker-: :( |
| 15:33.02 | Fisker- | kenlyric nah had to write evl and then tab |
| 15:33.24 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: http://tinyurl.com/3df945 http://tinyurl.com/3aqog2 |
| 15:33.31 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: are the toons i've been rolling |
| 15:33.38 | kenlyric | When you are possessing a target (Priest Mind Control, Eyes of the Beast, using a Steam Tonk, etc), you now get their action bar as your primary action bar rather than having a mini action bar above your normal action bar. |
| 15:33.46 | kenlyric | so it replaces Bar1? |
| 15:33.48 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: tbh i'll probably take my shammy to 70 first, it's really fun |
| 15:33.53 | JoshBorke | cool |
| 15:33.59 | JoshBorke | i'm still working on my priest |
| 15:34.07 | JoshBorke | i'm close to breaking 1k damage unbuffed |
| 15:34.13 | kadrahil | cool |
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| 15:34.18 | JoshBorke | i'll definitely switch back to my BE mage once 2.3 hits though |
| 15:34.19 | kadrahil | are you using FSW/spellstrike? |
| 15:34.31 | JoshBorke | yep |
| 15:34.41 | grzesieq | which spriest isn't :) |
| 15:34.48 | kadrahil | srsly |
| 15:35.03 | evl | Has anyone else noticed |
| 15:35.07 | kadrahil | nope |
| 15:35.16 | evl | how much UISCale fucks ups crispiness? |
| 15:35.31 | JoshBorke | grzesieq: a spriest in my guild who bitches at me about not having enough stam |
| 15:35.46 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: get moar vet/S2 gear |
| 15:36.01 | grzesieq | JoshBorke: why would you need more stam? |
| 15:36.03 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: i did my first 10 arena games last night since 3 weeks ago |
| 15:36.08 | JoshBorke | grzesieq: FUCK IF I KNOW! |
| 15:36.14 | grzesieq | JoshBorke: i mean, you need 10kish for some fights |
| 15:36.16 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: hah |
| 15:36.22 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: i haven't done arena in 3 or 4 weeks either |
| 15:36.36 | grzesieq | like uhm, najentus |
| 15:36.49 | JoshBorke | grzesieq: we don't have VR on farm yet |
| 15:36.51 | grzesieq | helps on archi maybe |
| 15:37.17 | grzesieq | well then you dont need any stam |
| 15:37.19 | JoshBorke | we can kill gruul every week |
| 15:37.34 | JoshBorke | can get VR but takes 2 nights of wiping first |
| 15:37.39 | JoshBorke | fucking idiots can't dodge orbs |
| 15:37.42 | grzesieq | haha |
| 15:37.57 | grzesieq | we have archi on 60% and people still die on VR -.- |
| 15:38.37 | kadrahil | VR was a fun fight the one time i did it |
| 15:40.21 | QuantumDelta | sigh |
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| 15:40.40 | QuantumDelta | is blizz's claims of addons effecting latency even realistic? :\ |
| 15:40.50 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 15:40.54 | QuantumDelta | yo |
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| 15:40.59 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, what claim ? :o |
| 15:40.59 | JoshBorke | grzesieq: we tried lurker a few times but we're too incompetent to kill adds properly |
| 15:41.15 | QuantumDelta | their latency report thread evolve |
| 15:41.30 | QuantumDelta | they claim some addons are likely to cause noticable lag |
| 15:41.38 | QuantumDelta | not something i've really noticed! |
| 15:41.51 | cncfanatics | linky ? |
| 15:42.01 | Tornhoof | well you can write addons to cause lag |
| 15:42.33 | QuantumDelta | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1295950626&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 15:43.31 | cncfanatics | the sticky doesn't seem to mention addons |
| 15:43.33 | Tornhoof | if you refer to the deletion of the addons dir |
| 15:43.46 | Tornhoof | that's just to get people on one common ground |
| 15:43.49 | Tornhoof | for analysis |
| 15:44.55 | Bruners | what addon was it that made tooltips hang when looking at items from chat? |
| 15:44.58 | cncfanatics | well, addons that spam the crap out of the addon channels in combat could cause lag |
| 15:46.48 | Tornhoof | i guess some addons which do large calculations on each onupdate() might be bad too ;) |
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| 15:49.15 | cncfanatics | thats bad practice :) |
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| 15:51.03 | Kaydeethree | new PTR build up! current build: 7468. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 15:52.06 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: there are a lot of things that are bad practice that people still do ;-) |
| 15:52.33 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 15:52.42 | cncfanatics | I do some bad practice myself often , but mainly because of lazyness :p |
| 15:52.56 | cncfanatics | think it happens to everyone to be too lazy to use locals & that kind of stuff sometimes :p |
| 15:54.14 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53200 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 15:54.14 | CIA-7 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0: |
| 15:54.15 | CIA-7 | - frFR Update |
| 15:54.33 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53201 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: frFR Update |
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| 15:59.06 | Fisker- | no me Kaydeethree |
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| 15:59.37 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53202 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Teron.lua TheEye/Kaelthas.lua): BigWigs: Updated localization koKR |
| 16:00.29 | Paradox | kokr? |
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| 16:14.30 | CIA-7 | 03drool * r53203 10Nauticus/NautComms.lua: |
| 16:14.30 | CIA-7 | Nauticus: |
| 16:14.30 | CIA-7 | - comms: reverse order of version and timer announce and put a delay to avoid channel throttling |
| 16:16.07 | CIA-7 | 03fenlis * r53204 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 16:16.07 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:16.07 | CIA-7 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 16:17.00 | Xelopheris | Anyone know of any addons to smooth out camera movement (if it's even possible) |
| 16:18.06 | Xelopheris | Oh wait, they protected all the camera movement APIs in 1.10, didn't they? |
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| 16:20.32 | CIA-7 | 03damjau * r53205 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 16:20.32 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:20.32 | CIA-7 | - update Babble-Boss-2.2 koKR locals |
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| 16:22.51 | Eiriel | I have a quick question regarding the Sound issues mac users are having if someone has the time |
| 16:24.20 | cncfanatics | ~asktotask |
| 16:25.31 | tinyboom | I think purl is taking a nap:p |
| 16:25.33 | Eiriel | Well - I converted the .mp3 files in Prat over to .wav - and updated the sound file paths in the lua. |
| 16:26.08 | Eiriel | I was just wondering if there was a way to send the file to the author |
| 16:26.21 | Xelopheris | www.gmail.com |
| 16:26.39 | deltron | https://gmail.google.com imo |
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| 16:27.11 | cncfanatics | dcc imo |
| 16:27.39 | Eiriel | That link just takes me to my gmail account. I must be missing something |
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| 16:28.24 | vengefulcyni | attach the file to an email and send it to the author |
| 16:28.29 | todd` | lol |
| 16:28.48 | Xelopheris | the author you would want is Sylvanaar |
| 16:28.58 | Xelopheris | .. sounds like an Ne hunter, doesn't it? |
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| 16:30.15 | cncfanatics | female |
| 16:30.15 | Xelopheris | hrm, Sylvanaar's email isn't published |
| 16:31.45 | Xelopheris | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.49 | Xelopheris | There, send them to that email |
| 16:31.53 | JoshBorke | and now it is |
| 16:32.03 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53206 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/ (8 files): |
| 16:32.03 | CIA-7 | Cartographer: |
| 16:32.03 | CIA-7 | - InstanceNotes: remove redundant boss strings in locale files |
| 16:32.11 | JoshBorke | oh, wait, spaces ftw |
| 16:32.16 | Fisker- | Xuerian omg |
| 16:32.17 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 16:32.17 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 16:32.18 | Fisker- | HIO |
| 16:32.19 | Fisker- | HI |
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| 16:33.54 | Xelopheris | http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/o173/kbc8090/hastelol.jpg <<-- holy fucking dps batman |
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| 16:34.45 | Erica | have a question about sorren timers... is there a way to make it show snake trap effect? It shows the trap when I set it but doesn't change to the effect once tripped by a mob. Seems to work fine on other traps |
| 16:34.51 | AnduinLothar | Seriously, why is AceEvent overriding Chronos's /in and doing it so crappily so as not to allow partial seconds.... |
| 16:34.56 | Fisker- | SKINNEEEEEEEEEER |
| 16:35.24 | JoshBorke | since when did AceEvent provide /in? o.O |
| 16:35.40 | Erica | I've noticed the same issue with chronometer so may have to do with a library or something |
| 16:35.48 | JoshBorke | acevent = library? |
| 16:35.55 | AnduinLothar | AceEvent-2.0.lua: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Error, bad arguments to /in. Must be in the form of `/in 5 /say hi'") |
| 16:36.34 | Erica | whatever library timer mods may be using... namely libraries that chronometer and sorren timers share |
| 16:36.45 | Lukian | Xelopheris, I'd like a 0.12 and 0.06 attack speed :o |
| 16:36.56 | Xelopheris | 0.12 AS from a 2.8 speed weapon... |
| 16:37.06 | Xelopheris | 23,000% haste |
| 16:37.16 | JoshBorke | Erica: that would be AceEvent :-) |
| 16:37.17 | Xelopheris | 2300* |
| 16:37.46 | Erica | happen to know if there's an issue with the way ace event handles snake trap timers? |
| 16:38.34 | Erica | the mods are older too so may be something that hasn't really even been considered yet |
| 16:39.06 | Xelopheris | you want the timers to track the snake poisons I'm betting? |
| 16:39.13 | Ellipsis | Erica, it's probably just those addons that haven't been updated for the new trap |
| 16:39.28 | Erica | mainly I just want the timer to tell me when the snakes are about to die |
| 16:39.48 | Erica | like it does for freezing trap... so I know when the mob will run loose |
| 16:40.07 | Erica | or tell me when it's time to place another |
| 16:40.09 | Xelopheris | Does the snakes releasing set off an event? |
| 16:40.17 | Erica | no |
| 16:40.22 | Erica | just setting the trap |
| 16:40.35 | Erica | the events work fine for other traps |
| 16:40.54 | Ellipsis | Erica: maybe you should ask other hunters what they use? |
| 16:41.03 | Ellipsis | there's probably another addon that works for the snake trap |
| 16:41.23 | Erica | I have and they don't even have a mod that tracks trap as well as sorren's and chronometer do |
| 16:41.58 | Erica | like I say, that's the only issue I keep hitting to having a timer mod that works well for me |
| 16:42.00 | Xelopheris | If there's no event set off when the trap is triggered, it would be next to impossible I would think |
| 16:42.26 | Xelopheris | Freezing/Frost trap immediately place a unique debuff on the target, snake trap doesn't |
| 16:42.32 | Erica | how can I tell if an actual event is triggered even if sorren's isn't seeing it? |
| 16:42.41 | cncfanatics | snake trap usualy hits a target nearly immediatly |
| 16:42.51 | cncfanatics | u can use the combatlog and check for snakes that hit a target after u have set a snake trip |
| 16:42.55 | Ellipsis | you could watch the combat log to see when snakes do damage |
| 16:42.56 | cncfanatics | there's a 80%+ chance its ur trap then |
| 16:42.57 | Xelopheris | yes but everything a snake trap lands is doable by a rogue |
| 16:43.06 | cncfanatics | different target |
| 16:43.13 | cncfanatics | I doubt much rogues have snake as nickname ? |
| 16:43.14 | Ellipsis | yes but the chances of a rogue named Snake are fairly low |
| 16:43.22 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I beat you to it :p |
| 16:43.28 | Ellipsis | meanie |
| 16:43.34 | Xelopheris | so you basically have to parse your combat log for something called Snake landing a poison |
| 16:43.34 | Paradox | where does WAU install to? |
| 16:43.51 | Xelopheris | Paradox, by default, your WoWInstall$\Interface\Addons |
| 16:44.00 | Ellipsis | uh, no |
| 16:44.08 | Ellipsis | WAU hides itself where you will never find it |
| 16:44.18 | Paradox | =( I wanna find it |
| 16:44.23 | Ellipsis | why? |
| 16:44.28 | Xelopheris | oh, the actual WAU install.. |
| 16:44.51 | Paradox | to replace it with the ad-free version without having to uninstall it and reinstall the ad free one |
| 16:45.14 | Xelopheris | just suck it up and deal with the ads. They pay for bandwidth |
| 16:45.31 | JoshBorke | don't just deal with the ads, click them |
| 16:45.34 | Erica | ok not a programmer but I think I understand what I need to find out... if an event is actually triggered that a mod could key from... like when the trap is triggered and not just when a snake attacks a target |
| 16:45.54 | Xelopheris | prettymuch |
| 16:46.24 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: how does the Ace implementation differ? |
| 16:46.27 | Erica | any of you guys work with programming on timer mods? |
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| 16:47.18 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:47.18 | CIA-7 | - deDE update and reindenting |
| 16:47.44 | Ellipsis | Paradox: if you don't like the way WAU does things, use a different updater |
| 16:48.14 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53208 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua: SwapMagic: Odd bugfix |
| 16:48.24 | Paradox | i'll just use the ad-free one, thanks |
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| 16:48.41 | JoshBorke | Paradox: why? |
| 16:48.59 | JoshBorke | Paradox: without the ads the cost of the server has to be provided for by the server admins and people willing to donate money |
| 16:49.33 | Xelopheris | do snake trap snakes register as pets? |
| 16:50.31 | Paradox | the ads aren't even related to wow, or games in general, there's mostly shite that I hate looking at |
| 16:50.34 | Paradox | that's why |
| 16:51.52 | Erica | ok snake traps do trigger an event and what I get in simplecombat log is "[You] Snake Trap [You]" |
| 16:52.47 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 16:53.03 | Kalman| | AnduinLothar: Pretty sure I had AceEvent's /in accepting partial seconds last night... |
| 16:53.06 | Ellipsis | if you get that message when the trap goes off, there's an event that can be caught to accurately time it |
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| 16:53.13 | Ellipsis | Kalman|: that's what she said |
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| 16:53.33 | Erica | can you tell me how to set that up? |
| 16:53.39 | Erica | I know it's probably asking a lot |
| 16:54.03 | dylanm | There's likely an existing mod for the job |
| 16:54.07 | Ellipsis | you'd need someone who knows lua to code it into a timer addon |
| 16:54.09 | balstor | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 16:54.16 | purl | cncfanatics is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 13m 37s) #wowace (1h 13m 37s). Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 10m 54s, last said: 'Ellipsis, I beat you to it :p'. |
| 16:54.31 | dylanm | There are a lot of timer-type addons out there |
| 16:54.52 | Ellipsis | yeah, I'd try more than just the two outdated addons you've mentioned |
| 16:54.54 | Erica | I've tried a lot and sorren/chronometer are closest |
| 16:54.59 | Ellipsis | ClassTimer might be a good place to start |
| 16:55.05 | Ellipsis | or even *gasp* look outside wowace |
| 16:55.09 | Erica | classtimer was buggy for me |
| 16:55.12 | dylanm | ClassTimer, NECB... loads of hunter-specific mods |
| 16:55.23 | dylanm | NECB has everything but the kitchen sink, generally |
| 16:55.23 | Erica | necb doesn't hardly catch anything /sigh |
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| 16:55.46 | Erica | doesn't even work right with hunter's mark |
| 16:55.52 | balstor | necb catches everything if you tell it to |
| 16:55.54 | dylanm | How so? |
| 16:56.04 | dylanm | Some things it can't really help. |
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| 16:56.14 | Xelopheris | Some things just don't register anything |
| 16:56.19 | Xelopheris | for instance, Sunder Armor if you're not the one applying it |
| 16:56.20 | Erica | I checked all the settings and it's a long way from being what I want |
| 16:56.44 | Erica | ... one little thing in sorren's and I'd be set lol |
| 16:57.01 | dylanm | Perfection in terms of timers requires either syncing or an omniscience that the API just doesn't give you yet. |
| 16:57.10 | Ellipsis | Erica: then learn lua and add it yourself :) |
| 16:57.22 | balstor | hmmm are you sure, i think if you tell necb to catch all it eill, but then again you get a couple 100 bars |
| 16:57.23 | Erica | I've been working on it actually |
| 16:57.34 | Erica | I did check the option |
| 16:57.49 | Erica | I tried checking and unchecking everything I could find |
| 16:58.09 | Erica | works with some things some of the time |
| 16:58.15 | dylanm | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/4803/ |
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| 16:58.19 | dylanm | Is mildly promising |
| 16:58.37 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53209 10AlarAutomation/AlarAutomation.lua: AlarAutomation Fixed version number display |
| 16:58.46 | RaydenUni | Can you smell what the Rokk is cooking? |
| 16:59.17 | CIA-7 | 03kuja * r53210 10Historian/ (. locales/Locale-deDE.lua): |
| 16:59.17 | CIA-7 | Historian: |
| 16:59.17 | CIA-7 | - deDE update |
| 16:59.17 | CIA-7 | - tsvn:logtemplate added |
| 16:59.50 | Lukian | Historian is a bundle of laughs! |
| 17:00.00 | Erica | that looks to be just for hunters... although I may just have to bite the bullet and use different mods for different characters |
| 17:00.10 | Erica | was just hoping to get around it |
| 17:00.31 | Kuja^ | Lukian: heh, i'd just notice i jump too much ;D |
| 17:00.44 | Lukian | Kuja^, hehe :D |
| 17:00.59 | Lukian | I wish i had historian from day 1. |
| 17:01.07 | Kuja^ | same here |
| 17:01.11 | Erica | thanks for the help... off to start digging in code |
| 17:01.19 | Ellipsis | 22,817 jumps since I started running Historian |
| 17:01.22 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 17:01.34 | Kuja^ | haha nice |
| 17:01.47 | Lukian | I check out my historian stats on a fresh character |
| 17:01.54 | Kuja^ | so im not alone w/ that, yay! :) |
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| 17:02.07 | Lukian | and it says something like 6 jumps and I'm like, "I've jumped that many times already?" |
| 17:02.38 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53211 10AlarBGHelper/AlarBGHelper.lua: AlarBGHelper Preliminary support for EOS winner prediction |
| 17:03.17 | Paradox | pitbull suggestion: when right-clicking the reputation bar on the frame, bring up window to select faction |
| 17:03.46 | CIA-7 | 03schelli * r53212 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFu.lua: FuBar_AmmoFu: Added another event to update so it actually updates the number when you change arrows |
| 17:04.19 | Lukian | I'd prefer everything to automatically change my rep bars when I change zone.. |
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| 17:07.05 | Lothaer | ~seen elkano |
| 17:07.07 | purl | elkano <i=86603dd4@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 5h 27m 27s ago, saying: 'evl, the raid colortable keys maybe?'. |
| 17:07.25 | Lothaer | damn hes not on |
| 17:07.26 | Lothaer | >< |
| 17:07.50 | Lothaer | does any1 know how to remove the Blessing of Demonstration on ElkBuffBars? |
| 17:08.07 | Ellipsis | lock the group |
| 17:08.10 | Xelopheris | lock the group |
| 17:08.15 | Ellipsis | I win |
| 17:08.19 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:08.45 | Xelopheris | well, at least I win at failing :( |
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| 17:10.01 | CIA-7 | 03kuja * r53213 10Omen/localization_deDE.lua: Omen: small deDE update |
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| 17:11.56 | Lothaer | thanks |
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| 17:14.26 | poxk | i've tried several addons to get ora tanks in my grid layout, but none seem to work, anyone got that working? |
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| 17:18.16 | Hjalte | poxk: Tried YssGridLayout? |
| 17:18.46 | poxk | yup, just expands the grid window, sometimes shows ppl in the first column, but often the wrong ones or just none at all |
| 17:19.36 | Hjalte | poxk: Checked if GridLayoutForHealers have MR's? |
| 17:19.42 | Hjalte | MT's |
| 17:20.58 | Kirkburn | This is weird, I can't click anything on the AH |
| 17:21.17 | poxk | been a while since i tried that one, i'll give it another go |
| 17:21.24 | Kuja^ | Kaelten: mind adding Babble-Mount-2.2 to the lodscripts? seems to be missing from there... |
| 17:21.36 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 17:21.49 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53214 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Utility.lua): FlexBar2: You can now use button=mouseover to modify the button the mouse is currently on |
| 17:23.12 | Kuja^ | Kaelten: well i don't think i have rights to edit them have i? just noticed Babble-Mount-2.2 is in my Babble-2.2 folder but it shouldn't... (i guess) |
| 17:23.39 | Kaelten | hrm, odd, you'd have to poke ck I believe |
| 17:25.00 | Kuja^ | heh ok |
| 17:27.06 | many | svn doesnt take the need of talking |
| 17:27.40 | many | itd just confuse ommitters if youd move something |
| 17:27.45 | many | c |
| 17:29.02 | Speeddymon_ | k im prob just an idiot when it comes to hunters, but what level are you supposed to be able to get kill command, and where do you pick it up on alliance side? |
| 17:29.33 | Speeddymon_ | Kaelten: hey you get my note on the onebag thread? |
| 17:29.40 | CIA-7 | 03trasher * r53215 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 17:29.40 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:29.40 | CIA-7 | - update french |
| 17:29.57 | Kaelten | I think I remember reading it but I can't remember what it said, I was sleepy |
| 17:31.51 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53216 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0: frFR Update |
| 17:32.09 | balstor | Speeddymon_ level 66 |
| 17:32.35 | balstor | Speeddymon_ linkage http://thottbot.com/s34026 |
| 17:33.54 | CIA-7 | 03kuja * r53217 10oRA2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: deDE update |
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| 17:41.49 | Nefasti | So any news on ckk disappearance? |
| 17:42.05 | durcyn | he busticated his laptop, it's not a mystery. |
| 17:42.10 | Chompers | he returned home, to mars |
| 17:42.11 | Stanzilla | he was here yesterday |
| 17:42.17 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53218 10LibRockDB-1.0/LibRockDB-1.0.lua: LibRockDB-1.0: frFR Update |
| 17:42.38 | Xelopheris | did you know that getting a batch script to read id3 tags is a bitch? |
| 17:42.45 | Nefasti | laptops sux |
| 17:43.03 | deltron | Xelopheris: yeah :( I was going to write a powershell script to automagically fix a lot of my stuff |
| 17:43.34 | Nefasti | wav + xml ftw! |
| 17:44.21 | Xelopheris | deltron, it's mostly because of inconsistent pre-amble to actually find the id3 data |
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| 17:44.43 | NimbleRabit | is there some special way I have to update my ptr build? |
| 17:45.03 | deltron | I noticed a lot of my old mp3's from like 1998 had to have their id3 tags rewritten |
| 17:45.13 | ulic | when I logged in this morning it dl then patched, automagically |
| 17:45.13 | durcyn | Xelopheris: just use musicbrainz |
| 17:45.21 | NimbleRabit | hmm |
| 17:45.24 | NimbleRabit | well |
| 17:45.24 | NimbleRabit | when logging on I crash and get exception "0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION)", so I assume I have the wrong version or something? |
| 17:45.39 | ulic | that sounds odd |
| 17:45.46 | ulic | after character selection? |
| 17:45.49 | NimbleRabit | yes |
| 17:45.54 | NimbleRabit | right when I would get into game |
| 17:45.58 | deltron | NimbleRabit: delete the wowtest folder |
| 17:46.35 | ulic | yea, no repair.exe for the wowtest |
| 17:46.43 | poxk | simple addon to hide voice minimap icon? |
| 17:48.43 | durcyn | poxk: create your own stub with MiniMapVoiceChatFrame:Hide() |
| 17:50.03 | deltron | you can make that as a macro right? |
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| 17:50.49 | Kemayo | I'm told that the voicechat minimap button unhides itself on occasion. |
| 17:51.19 | poxk | woot, ta |
| 17:51.19 | Funkeh` | hi |
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| 17:57.08 | `Zypher | ok |
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| 18:04.27 | poxk | Kemayo: zoning it seems |
| 18:04.52 | dodga | Antiarc: Can you please add an alpha setting for Omen? Also, I'd find it highly useful if I could disable the bar pullout :D |
| 18:04.57 | Fisker- | Anyone know if the Insightful Earthstorm Diamond proc shows up in Parrot? |
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| 18:05.54 | Xelopheris | that's the +mana on cast one, right? |
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| 18:06.08 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:06.19 | Dustwhisper | Hey guys need some spazzy help. One of my guildmembers is getting high ping when joining a raid (without being in the instance). What can cause this? |
| 18:06.26 | Xelopheris | Yeah, you'll see +300 mana in the same place all your other mana gains appear |
| 18:06.31 | Fisker- | as far as i can see i only get SA and Illumination on my pala |
| 18:06.31 | Fisker- | :O |
| 18:06.38 | Xelopheris | you won't actually see something saying "Insightful earthstorm diamond r0xx0rz" though |
| 18:06.38 | Fisker- | must be a very low procrate then |
| 18:06.53 | Xelopheris | 5% |
| 18:07.01 | Xelopheris | oh wait, 2% |
| 18:07.07 | Xelopheris | ... wait a second |
| 18:07.10 | Xelopheris | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27521 |
| 18:07.15 | Xelopheris | look at the tooltip and the listed proc chance |
| 18:07.27 | Hjalte | Dustwhisper: It can be caused by addons sending a lot of information if his connection is bad, I think. |
| 18:07.57 | Dustwhisper | which addons, anyway to measure/see it ? |
| 18:08.08 | Fisker- | lol |
| 18:08.11 | Fisker- | there it was for the first time |
| 18:08.22 | NimbleRabit | Why is it omen seems to be there even if I can't see it? Like if I click the fubar plugin to make it stop showing, if I right click the area the options still show up |
| 18:08.23 | Fisker- | took 7 minutes to get a proc :( |
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| 18:09.29 | Hjalte | Dustwhisper, I believe there is an addon on files.wowace.com tracking what addons send most through the addons channel. I don't remember the name though - and furthermore, it might not even be his own addons disconnecting him. |
| 18:09.40 | Hjalte | Eh, or causing his ping to go up. |
| 18:09.53 | Kalman| | AddonSpamFu, I think. |
| 18:09.57 | Dustwhisper | well an addon measuring in/out from those subchannels might be good |
| 18:10.00 | Dustwhisper | ill go check for addonspamfu |
| 18:10.09 | Dustwhisper | one of our main priests cant raid due to this shit |
| 18:10.11 | Kalman| | Something like that, anyway. It's a FuBar plugin for sure. |
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| 18:11.21 | balstor | dustwhisper if you have a player disconnecting the first question to ask "Are you on a wireless modem" |
| 18:11.48 | Hjalte | Dustwhisper, I remember there was some problems with Recount sending lots of data - Same with DoTimer. |
| 18:12.01 | Dustwhisper | he's not disconnecting |
| 18:12.08 | Dustwhisper | he's getting stupidly high ping when joining a raid |
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| 18:12.32 | Xuerian | Hai, Fisker- >.> |
| 18:12.53 | Fisker- | hai |
| 18:12.58 | Fisker- | icecream and raid tiem :( |
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| 18:13.26 | Shirik|Ecole | Dustwhisper: That doesn't make much sense unless his message queues are filling up |
| 18:13.30 | Xuerian | o.0... I just woke up... XD. Enjoy raid o.0 |
| 18:13.30 | balstor | yhea recount had an issue but only if most of the raid had it, also check on the modem, wireless modems have crappy crappy drivers. |
| 18:13.31 | Nefasti | 99% of problems with high ping is due to crappy connections/Running torrent/Computer infected to death with spyware |
| 18:13.38 | Shirik|Ecole | i.e., no matter how much data you transmit, your ping should be the same |
| 18:13.41 | Fisker- | btw welcome back omg |
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| 18:13.52 | Shirik|Ecole | but we all know this is not the theoretical world |
| 18:14.22 | Shirik|Ecole | I'd grab devtools and check to see if there's any addon message spam when joining a raid |
| 18:14.45 | balstor | yhea but joing a raid increases the ampunt of data, which then exposes weakness in network drivers |
| 18:15.12 | balstor | grrr typing and spelling would be nice today |
| 18:15.32 | Dustwhisper | mightve found the culprit |
| 18:15.37 | Dustwhisper | recount is sending 12 KB/s from him to another raidmember |
| 18:16.19 | deltron | whoa |
| 18:16.31 | Shirik|Ecole | that's pretty awesome |
| 18:16.50 | balstor | there is a patch on the forums to stop syncing if he wants it, the recount author is on an extended vaccation |
| 18:17.09 | Dustwhisper | i havent touched recount since august |
| 18:17.13 | Dustwhisper | cause it kept fucking me over |
| 18:17.18 | Dustwhisper | GUI kept freezing/becoming unusable |
| 18:17.19 | balstor | btw recount send is throttled so it still shouldn't cause a high ping, so tell him to update all his drivers to. |
| 18:17.46 | Cheads | I've never had any problems like that with recount |
| 18:17.56 | Dustwhisper | even more fucked up? |
| 18:17.58 | Dustwhisper | he doesnt have recount |
| 18:18.05 | Dustwhisper | he doesnt have a recountfolder atleast |
| 18:18.12 | Kalman| | DoTimer? |
| 18:18.15 | balstor | does he have threatlib installed? |
| 18:18.23 | balstor | hahah NFL TO UK: MIAMI DOLPHINS Player learns he won't need translator in London... |
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| 18:18.59 | deltron | balstor: linkplz |
| 18:19.08 | balstor | http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2007/10/24/crowder_discovers_he_wont_need.html?cxntfid=blogs_inside_the_dolphins |
| 18:19.15 | Cheads | Kalman| DoTimer doesn't spam anymore |
| 18:19.38 | deltron | lmao |
| 18:19.41 | Kalman| | Yes, but he may or may not be on a recent version. |
| 18:19.53 | Kalman| | And the version that spams spams quite a lot. |
| 18:20.38 | Cheads | that's rather old |
| 18:21.16 | Kalman| | And yet guildmates of mine still run it, even though I've told them to update. |
| 18:21.22 | Kalman| | Worth checking, certainly. |
| 18:21.37 | Dustwhisper | Yes he has threatlib |
| 18:21.38 | Cheads | they could just remove the communication part.. it's a seperate module |
| 18:21.38 | Dustwhisper | cause he has omen |
| 18:21.42 | Dustwhisper | but that addonspamfu says it's recount |
| 18:22.05 | Antiarc | Threatlib is far less spammy than recount <_< |
| 18:22.16 | Antiarc | Like, by an order of magnitude or more |
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| 18:24.02 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53219 10FuBar/ (FuBar-Locale-frFR.lua FuBar.toc): FuBar: frFR Update |
| 18:29.14 | baer_ | is there some way in pitbull to show ALL debuffs on a focused target? |
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| 18:29.51 | Cheads | uhm anyone that could recommend some nice shaman addons? |
| 18:30.28 | Nefasti | cheads, enhancer |
| 18:30.29 | durcyn | Cheads: Yata, GotWood |
| 18:31.28 | Cheads | thanks |
| 18:31.46 | Nefasti | on the advice front |
| 18:31.59 | Nefasti | any fubar plugin for dps measure? |
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| 18:32.32 | durcyn | all three of the damage meters on wowace have fubar displays, find one that works for you.. Recount (with FuBar_RecountFu), Assessment, or Violation |
| 18:32.56 | Nefasti | Yeah, I need to check assessment and violation. |
| 18:32.57 | durcyn | there's also a FuBar_DPSFu, which isn't a damage meter proper, but may suit your needs |
| 18:33.13 | Nefasti | I'm using swstats right now, as most guildies do. I like the vote to reset sync thing too. |
| 18:33.31 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53220 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0: frFR Update |
| 18:36.41 | Nefasti | Any addon to show death's on raid? I want to kick track of ppls death order |
| 18:37.04 | evl | recount |
| 18:37.05 | evl | afaik |
| 18:37.07 | ulic | Assessment tracks deaths, but a ton more too |
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| 18:38.16 | Dustwhisper | assessment is better imo, the flath death list owns |
| 18:38.25 | Nefasti | assessment looks good. |
| 18:38.33 | Nefasti | How the deaht list works? |
| 18:39.56 | ulic | shows you a list of everyone, and their number of deaths, click on a player it and it shows a list of time they died, click on a time, and it will show you a log of what a happened to them as they approched their death. |
| 18:40.15 | Nefasti | nice |
| 18:40.25 | Nefasti | Gonna try this when I get at home. |
| 18:40.47 | Chompers | Recount + Fubar plugin |
| 18:40.49 | Nefasti | Sounds goods to see which prick pulled mob to wipe guild |
| 18:41.42 | CIA-7 | 03kuja * r53221 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 18:41.42 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:41.42 | CIA-7 | - deDE update |
| 18:42.01 | Cheads | humm enhancer.. doesn't seem to work very well? I get the icon in the middle of the screen .. but /enh and /enhancer doesn't do anything |
| 18:42.08 | Cheads | as in.. it's not registered :/ |
| 18:43.46 | Cheads | guess I miss some lib |
| 18:44.08 | Dustwhisper | http://tinyurl.com/2c4mgh |
| 18:44.08 | Dustwhisper | http://tinyurl.com/2d9w98 |
| 18:44.10 | Dustwhisper | please check =) |
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| 18:46.35 | Rayden | what's the name of the guy in netherstorm with practically infinite health? |
| 18:47.28 | kadrahil | Dr something |
| 18:47.32 | Ellipsis | dr. boom |
| 18:47.35 | kadrahil | yeah |
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| 18:48.21 | Ellipsis | so now I have this epic gem and nowhere to put it |
| 18:48.23 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 18:48.42 | xerawx | i've got a complete new box here except mobo, suffering wow withdrawal |
| 18:48.57 | kadrahil | :( |
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| 18:49.21 | xerawx | and i missed the whole 2.3 ptr so far |
| 18:49.41 | Ellipsis | that's gotta hurt xerawx |
| 18:49.43 | xerawx | haven't even been reading about it much it just makes it worse |
| 18:50.39 | Nefasti | Dustwhisper, he could have moved the recount folder inside some other folder |
| 18:50.44 | Nefasti | or renamet it even |
| 18:50.48 | Nefasti | renamed |
| 18:51.02 | Ellipsis | happy Ellipsis is happy |
| 18:52.14 | CIA-7 | 03kuja * r53222 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: deDE fix |
| 18:55.33 | Fisker- | omg Xuerian |
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| 18:55.47 | Xuerian | Fisker-: o.0 |
| 18:56.05 | Fisker- | it doesn't work when i want to link moar then a couple of itams |
| 18:56.40 | Xuerian | Be a little more specific? |
| 18:56.56 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53223 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 18:56.56 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:56.56 | CIA-7 | -Change a default setting to use the localized version |
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| 18:59.47 | Fisker- | Xuerian it has 5 items only links 3 |
| 19:00.03 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Ok, I'll check it out. |
| 19:00.07 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Thanks. |
| 19:00.33 | Fisker- | unbelievable btw |
| 19:00.44 | Fisker- | this is the 9th item i get 2 void crystals from |
| 19:01.02 | Xuerian | Nice o.0 |
| 19:01.12 | Ellipsis | hax |
| 19:02.42 | CIA-7 | 03pastamancer 07Alpha * r53224 10Ace3/tests/wow_api.lua: |
| 19:02.42 | CIA-7 | Ace3: |
| 19:02.42 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.42 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:04.45 | Ellipsis | grrr, where are my locks when I need them |
| 19:04.48 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53225 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: frFR Update |
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| 19:06.48 | kenlyric | so is autobar supposed to not remember my keybindings? Is that some sort of feature? |
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| 19:08.15 | Cheads | you have to make new keybindings with the new version.. for ie. Bandage, Food etc. |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-7 | 03pastamancer 07Alpha * r53226 10Ace3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-7 | Ace3: |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-7 | - ACE-61: now using CTL. |
| 19:08.50 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53227 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: Don't show timers if we have them off. |
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| 19:11.11 | CIA-7 | 03pastamancer 07Alpha * r53228 10Ace3/AceComm-3.0/AceComm-3.0.xml: |
| 19:11.11 | CIA-7 | Ace3: |
| 19:11.11 | CIA-7 | - ACE-61: updated xml to include CTL. |
| 19:12.59 | Speeddymon_ | whats the difference between declaring a function as function SomeName() and function SomeAddon:SomeName() |
| 19:13.48 | Xuerian | Fisker-: If you find more information on these quirks please tell me, I'm finding it hard to run into more than four items of loot, and they probably don't have as long of names as what you tried to link. SS it next time it doesn't work, too |
| 19:16.37 | Speeddymon_ | anyone? |
| 19:17.19 | Funkeh` | Speeddymon_, If you just declare it as a name you own't be able to acess any APi attached to the addon name |
| 19:18.02 | Xuerian | Without going AddonName:APICall(), you could still do that. If you declare it SA:SN() you can use self:APICall() |
| 19:18.34 | samwise | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.46 | Azurewrath | yay, Archimonde down :) |
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| 19:21.54 | Funkeh` | samwise, where do you have BigWigs outputing? |
| 19:22.31 | Funkeh` | RaidWarning frame or the BigWIgs frame? or a differenent one? check the mesasges plugin |
| 19:22.38 | Funkeh` | messages* |
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| 19:25.43 | Speeddymon_ | Funkeh`: so if I were to just do function SomeName() inside of SomeAddon.lua, I still couldn't get to SomeName() from the command line in game, even if I used something like /script SomeAddon:SomeName() |
| 19:25.46 | Speeddymon_ | right? |
| 19:25.59 | Ellipsis | you can unless you declare it local |
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| 19:26.36 | samwise | funkeh ,its the bigwigs frame |
| 19:26.42 | Speeddymon_ | so then what does he mean you wont be able to access any API attached to the addon name if you declare it without SomeAddon: part..? |
| 19:27.01 | samwise | but other settings create the warning at reenabling of bw too |
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| 19:28.25 | Erica | I think I discovered why snake traps don't show their triggered effect in chronometer or sorren timers... they use babble 2.2 and it's not in it's list of spells |
| 19:29.10 | Erica | at least chronometer does but haven't confirmed that with sorren timers |
| 19:29.41 | Erica | sorren timers I know has code that's at least trying to make the triggered effect work... but chronometer doesn't even bother |
| 19:30.26 | Erica | btw... hi :P |
| 19:31.02 | Speeddymon_ | hi |
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| 19:31.37 | Erica | I wish some good programmer would take up the cause of making a really good timer bar mod |
| 19:31.48 | RaydenUni | anyone have some wowwebstats with a KZ geared shadowpriest i can look at? |
| 19:32.43 | Speeddymon_ | erica: elkbuffbars |
| 19:33.16 | Erica | I use that for buffs already Speeddymon... trying to also get something to work well with hunter traps and my alts |
| 19:33.37 | Speeddymon_ | so Ellipsis: one more time, what's the difference between the 2 ways to declare the same function? |
| 19:33.45 | Erica | something that works for like hunters mark, traps, and the respective trap triggers |
| 19:34.17 | Speeddymon_ | hunters mark has a cooldown? |
| 19:34.19 | Speeddymon_ | err |
| 19:34.25 | Speeddymon_ | not a cd.. nm |
| 19:34.26 | Erica | 2 mins |
| 19:34.32 | Speeddymon_ | cooldowntimers |
| 19:34.42 | Speeddymon_ | or cdt+ebb |
| 19:35.02 | Erica | ebb is awesome... just needs a partner for the rest |
| 19:35.35 | Erica | I tried cooldowntimers and had some problems... like the bars wouldn't follow where I placed the anchor |
| 19:35.43 | Tuller | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518910593&sid=1 :) |
| 19:35.48 | samwise | anything new funky? ;) |
| 19:36.28 | Speeddymon_ | erica: im the cdt maintainer.. what do you mean the bars would follow? how long ago did you try? |
| 19:36.36 | NightHawkAtWork | Tuller: thanks for reminding me to try that. |
| 19:36.39 | Erica | a few mins ago |
| 19:36.42 | Antiarc | Blizzard should really do something about the rogue durability tax <_< |
| 19:36.48 | Speeddymon_ | hm |
| 19:36.50 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: eh? |
| 19:36.54 | Erica | I placed the anchor where I wanted them and they stayed stuck in the middle of the screen |
| 19:37.01 | Antiarc | Our weapons degrade stupidly faster than everything else |
| 19:37.02 | Speeddymon_ | wtf.. |
| 19:37.18 | Speeddymon_ | can u send me a screenshot of it? |
| 19:37.19 | Antiarc | Last night, I was grinding, and after about 2 hours of nonstop combat, my armor was at 89-87% percent, and my offhand was at 15% |
| 19:37.22 | Antiarc | Mainhand at 27% |
| 19:37.23 | Speeddymon_ | i havent heard this before |
| 19:37.26 | NightHawkAtWork | ahh, yeah.. a class that emphases hast and many attacks -> lots of weapon dura loss. |
| 19:37.42 | Antiarc | Sorta sucks :P |
| 19:37.45 | Erica | let me go reinstall it... just to clarify you do mean cooldowntimers 2 from the wowace updater right? |
| 19:37.51 | Speeddymon_ | yes |
| 19:38.05 | Antiarc | Especially when you're looking at like 6g to repair it. |
| 19:38.13 | Erica | ok brb |
| 19:38.22 | Chompers | hey Antiarc |
| 19:38.23 | Ellipsis | arghhhhhhh |
| 19:38.24 | Speeddymon_ | Antiarc: yeh i know the feelin |
| 19:38.31 | Ellipsis | now that I finally have mats nobody can craft mah spellstrike :( |
| 19:38.32 | Chompers | thanks for the info last night, been improving my gear :) |
| 19:38.50 | Antiarc | Hunters don't get to bitch about arrow cost when every time I smack a mob it's like 3 silver >_> |
| 19:38.57 | Antiarc | Heh, glad to help Chompers |
| 19:39.02 | Speeddymon_ | Ellipsis: can you run it by me one more time what the difference is between the 2 ways to declare the same function? |
| 19:39.27 | Speeddymon_ | lol i like the analogy Antiarc |
| 19:39.31 | Ellipsis | well, the first one makes it a global function |
| 19:39.49 | Ellipsis | the second one declares it inside the addon's table |
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| 19:40.46 | Funkeh` | samwise, will look into it later |
| 19:40.47 | Speeddymon_ | SA:SN() is global.. and SN() is global as well but only for that addon.. and then local SN() makes it local so it can only be accessed by the addon |
| 19:40.58 | Speeddymon_ | right? |
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| 19:41.14 | Ellipsis | local SN() can only be accessed within that file |
| 19:41.20 | Speeddymon_ | ohh |
| 19:41.28 | Ellipsis | SN() is global and SA:SN() is global but declared within SA |
| 19:41.36 | Ellipsis | you can use self inside SA:SN() |
| 19:41.39 | Ellipsis | to refer to SA |
| 19:42.01 | Speeddymon_ | kk.. so if you are trying to privatize an addon then the best thing is to use self inside of SA |
| 19:42.08 | Speeddymon_ | not local SN() |
| 19:42.29 | Ellipsis | generally that's the best way to do it, if you want to be able to use that function from anywhere in your addon |
| 19:43.21 | Erica | Speeddymon... I'm getting further this time but now when I lay a trap, the bar comes up for 30 seconds even though the trap is supposed to exist for one minute |
| 19:44.32 | Erica | It looks like it's just tracking the cooldown time for when I can lay another trap and not the actual amount of time that the trap exists |
| 19:45.53 | Speeddymon_ | thats correct.. elk wouldn't track the trap duration either.. hm, you got a good point.. there may be an addon that tracks the trap duration but im not sure |
| 19:47.03 | Erica | the closest thing I've found is chronometer like I mentioned earlier... but it doesn't work for snake traps once a mob steps on them |
| 19:47.19 | Erica | it just times them for a minute even though the snakes are dead |
| 19:47.24 | kenlyric | damn you autobar, remember! |
| 19:47.33 | Ozguli | snake traps are funny if one has madness card... |
| 19:47.43 | deltron | lol |
| 19:47.47 | Speeddymon_ | Erica: let me add the snake trap to babble and see if it fixes that |
| 19:48.02 | Erica | ok I appreciate whatever you can do :) |
| 19:48.24 | Speeddymon_ | np |
| 19:48.43 | Erica | as a reminder, it registers when I lay a snake trap... but just doesn't show it when it's triggered like the other traps |
| 19:49.30 | Erica | so I guess it's something like snake trap effect |
| 19:50.00 | deltron | I think that anti-spam thing blizz implemented broke a lot of stuff lately |
| 19:50.38 | Speeddymon_ | is it a buff or a debuff, and what is the name of the buff/debuff? |
| 19:50.49 | Speeddymon_ | or is it neither |
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| 19:50.59 | Ellipsis | it's neither |
| 19:51.04 | Ellipsis | aestil <3 |
| 19:51.05 | durcyn | it's just a bunch of mobs that spawn |
| 19:51.07 | Erica | the snakes come out and apply a poison... but all I care about is how long they have to live once they're released |
| 19:51.23 | aestil | ~seen sirow |
| 19:51.25 | purl | sirow is currently on #wowace (53m 21s), last said: 'files.wowace.com/AvionDefaultMedia/'. |
| 19:51.25 | Speeddymon_ | hmm.. lemme look at sorrentimers |
| 19:51.25 | Erica | so I think it's just a snake trap effect like freezing trap effect |
| 19:51.35 | durcyn | there's no aura from the trap itself. |
| 19:51.46 | aestil | sirow, ping |
| 19:51.52 | Sirow | ??? |
| 19:51.54 | dylanm | That would be the trouble, no? |
| 19:51.59 | Speeddymon_ | which babble addon did you look in? |
| 19:52.00 | Erica | basically... just needs to trigger a 20 second timer once triggered |
| 19:52.07 | aestil | OMG SIROW I WANT TO LOVE AVION AND IT HATES ME |
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| 19:52.33 | Speeddymon_ | oh ok then ya its not gonna be an issue with babble, it's in sorrentimers itself.. neither one checks the trap trigger.. |
| 19:53.04 | Erica | yeah that's what I mentioned earlier and why I'm hoping you can help |
| 19:53.10 | Sirow | aestil: Dunno, haven't worked or played for a whole while now, University has started again, which means less free time :< |
| 19:53.24 | aestil | ugh. |
| 19:53.29 | aestil | well, the cooldowns module is not working. |
| 19:53.42 | Sirow | aestil: One thing for sure, Avion will be reworked and simplified |
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| 19:54.02 | aestil | like, in another 5 months :) |
| 19:54.15 | Sirow | hm somebody mentioned that allready, I think its due to my last LibCooldown update |
| 19:54.29 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 19:54.34 | aestil | sirow, i just have 2 requests before you start all over again, please, make the cooldown module work. and please insert the 'stop animation on buff fade' |
| 19:54.35 | Ellipsis | that would explain some things |
| 19:54.58 | Ellipsis | aestil, what badge reward should I get first? |
| 19:55.23 | Ellipsis | the icon is probably the biggest upgrade for me, but I'm too impatient to save up :( |
| 19:55.24 | durcyn | icon of the silver crescent. |
| 19:55.28 | durcyn | do it. |
| 19:55.30 | Speeddymon_ | do the snakes have a name? |
| 19:55.32 | Ellipsis | and the neck is pretty huge too... |
| 19:55.43 | durcyn | get the karazhan trash neck. |
| 19:55.44 | Fisker- | HOLY SHIZNIT |
| 19:55.45 | Erica | it just shows snake trap in the combat log |
| 19:55.51 | Ellipsis | durcyn: I haven't done kara yet :/ |
| 19:55.56 | Speeddymon_ | when a snake damages someone? |
| 19:56.00 | Sirow | "stop animation on buff fade" only possible after rework. Cooldown working. Make my gcc + GLUT work, write an OpenGL prog for me and I have some time to fix bugs :~> |
| 19:56.01 | durcyn | Ellipsis: start. |
| 19:56.01 | Fisker- | insightful earthstorm diamond just procced on it self |
| 19:56.05 | Erica | oh they have different poisons |
| 19:56.08 | Ellipsis | durcyn: k |
| 19:56.09 | Erica | like rogues |
| 19:56.12 | durcyn | Ellipsis: k. |
| 19:56.15 | Ellipsis | k |
| 19:56.21 | durcyn | ok |
| 19:56.27 | Erica | all I really care about is just a timer bar to know when the snakes are about to die |
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| 19:56.30 | Ellipsis | so, icon then the off hand? |
| 19:56.31 | aestil | wait, sirow, the cooddown thing is woring now? |
| 19:56.36 | Erica | like when the freezing trap is about to break |
| 19:56.37 | Ellipsis | and hope to god I get into kara for the neck? |
| 19:56.39 | aestil | Ellipsis: ICON first, then OH |
| 19:56.49 | Sirow | aestil: Afaik no |
| 19:56.55 | durcyn | icon is insanely great |
| 19:57.02 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 19:57.09 | aestil | Sirow: can you maybe just get that one thing fixed then? |
| 19:57.12 | Ellipsis | I'm happy though |
| 19:57.16 | Ellipsis | almost 900 +shadow so far |
| 19:57.21 | aestil | i can live with the animation not fading on buff. |
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| 19:57.27 | Ellipsis | and I did a consistent 1k+ DPS in heroic mech today ^-^ |
| 19:57.31 | aestil | but its almost self defeating to not have the CD thing work. |
| 19:57.32 | durcyn | that + crusade deck, only upgrade is from illidan until ZA |
| 19:57.44 | Sirow | aestil: Only know that the bug should be inside LibCooldown-1.0 but fiding it will take some testing time :< |
| 19:57.45 | aestil | yes, blessings durcyn. blessings deck |
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| 19:58.06 | aestil | Ellipsis will offer you sexual favors if you fix it for me. |
| 19:58.38 | Sirow | Hey, what about me, could also need some "love" :~} |
| 19:58.46 | Ellipsis | I will? |
| 19:58.54 | Ellipsis | actually, I'll offer sexual favors if he fixes it for ME |
| 19:59.06 | aestil | yes, sirow, see, thats what i meant. |
| 19:59.09 | Ellipsis | I've been trying to use LibCD and was very confused about what I did wrong to make it stop working |
| 19:59.16 | Sirow | fix what ^.^? |
| 19:59.24 | aestil | see sirow! LibCD |
| 19:59.31 | aestil | its very important. I am AFK, lunch with wife |
| 20:00.05 | Sirow | ah crap, downloading cygwin stuff will take a while anyway, firing up wow |
| 20:00.10 | Nefasti | Ellipsis, what did you use to measure 1k+ dps? |
| 20:00.16 | Ellipsis | Nefasti: Violation |
| 20:00.25 | Ellipsis | either way I topped the damage meter |
| 20:00.32 | Ellipsis | which was unexpected since it was a guild grop |
| 20:00.33 | Ellipsis | group* |
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| 20:00.45 | Erica | damage on violation seems way high compared to other meters |
| 20:00.54 | Nefasti | just wondering as I've never seen this figures with damagemeters or swstats |
| 20:01.18 | Nefasti | Ellipsis, you're shadow priest or warlock? |
| 20:01.23 | Ellipsis | lock |
| 20:01.30 | Nefasti | nice, me too. |
| 20:01.34 | Erica | I use recount which is kind of a memory hog but seems more accurate |
| 20:01.35 | Sirow | About LibCD: Only item cd broken or spells too, because I can't remeber chaning anything? |
| 20:01.55 | Nefasti | I'm feeling a itemization problem right now with my lock. |
| 20:02.07 | vhaarr | Erica: if anything is inaccurate, it's the one showing the lower numbers |
| 20:02.16 | Nefasti | I was losing badly to rogues (and still is kinda) |
| 20:02.20 | Erica | Locks can't say anything about itemization... my main is a hunter lol |
| 20:02.28 | Nefasti | Changed from affliction to dest and it's a bit better now |
| 20:02.39 | Ellipsis | I find Violation usually gives me a lower DPS than mages and such even though I am higher on the meters for total damage |
| 20:02.50 | Ellipsis | which probably has to do with the way it measures combat time |
| 20:03.07 | Erica | it's about 300 dps above reality for me on my hunter |
| 20:03.48 | Ellipsis | since my DoTs are always ticking, I have a longer damage time than a mage who starts the pull with a pyroblast |
| 20:03.51 | aestil | Sirow: i don't use it for spell CD |
| 20:03.56 | Erica | I'd be using violation for sure if it was more accurate though as I love the low mem and simple interface |
| 20:03.57 | aestil | Sirow: only for item CD |
| 20:04.07 | aestil | Sirow: specifically Trinket slots. |
| 20:04.27 | vhaarr | Erica: you haven't produced any proof that it's not accurate |
| 20:04.28 | aestil | violation is just as accurate as anything else? |
| 20:04.33 | vhaarr | indeed it is |
| 20:04.36 | Erica | not for me |
| 20:04.39 | Sirow | aesti: You add specific trinket slot or by name? |
| 20:04.40 | aestil | ? |
| 20:04.45 | aestil | Sirow: i tried it both ways |
| 20:04.49 | Erica | it's numbers are way off compared to recount or swstats |
| 20:04.52 | sb | gnnnl |
| 20:04.56 | vhaarr | Erica: if recount shows you doing less damage than violation, recount is the one at fault |
| 20:04.57 | aestil | i tried it by name and by slot and it didn't work. |
| 20:04.58 | sb | that custom chan spam protection SUCKS |
| 20:05.12 | Sirow | hm, so both broke. Sounds like I fucked it up when addind smething |
| 20:05.15 | aestil | and i get an error. |
| 20:05.17 | Erica | but recount numbers are in line with swstats |
| 20:05.25 | vhaarr | then swstats is wrong as well |
| 20:05.34 | Erica | wow |
| 20:05.47 | Ellipsis | I'd rather just use FuBar_DPS but the stupid thing still uses metrognome |
| 20:05.51 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 20:05.56 | vhaarr | so fix it |
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| 20:06.02 | Ellipsis | laaazy |
| 20:06.04 | Ellipsis | I have something that works |
| 20:06.05 | Erica | yeah fubar dps is nice |
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| 20:06.46 | Ellipsis | perhaps when I get my new computer I'll be able to run multiple meters and compare the results |
| 20:07.05 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Alpha * r53231 10Ace3/Ace3.toc: Ace3 - remove opt dep |
| 20:07.07 | Erica | we have the stats thing on our guild web page |
| 20:07.28 | Erica | not sure how the data is pulled but I know recount is in line with it as well... violation is way high |
| 20:07.42 | vhaarr | violation merges pet data by default |
| 20:07.50 | Erica | I have it turned off |
| 20:08.03 | Erica | I tried that to see if that would account for the difference.. it doesn't |
| 20:08.34 | Erica | so I keep swearing and going back to recount |
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| 20:09.32 | Speeddymon_ | erica: tbh, it's gonna take me a little while, cause my hunter isn't high enough to get snake trap (only lvl 26) so the only way I can even follow the code path is to level her up.. :-( |
| 20:09.58 | Erica | what server are you on speeddy? |
| 20:10.14 | Speeddymon_ | US-Haomarush alliance |
| 20:10.16 | [Ammo] | violation is accurate, don't like it, use something else |
| 20:10.21 | [Ammo] | free world |
| 20:10.24 | RaydenUni | when do dps meters consider you in combat? |
| 20:10.33 | Erica | that's the problem ammo... I love it but I just get different numbers |
| 20:10.35 | RaydenUni | when wow considers you in combat? |
| 20:10.44 | RaydenUni | when your group is in combat? |
| 20:10.53 | [Ammo] | violation does not care for combat |
| 20:10.55 | Ellipsis | I like Violation 'cause I'm always topping it |
| 20:10.56 | [Ammo] | apart from resetting |
| 20:10.58 | Keias | Violation has always been the most accurate for me |
| 20:11.07 | Keias | SW_Stats always gave me bad info :( |
| 20:11.31 | Erica | I guess it really doesn't matter... just need a standard for measurement |
| 20:11.43 | alext | been using violation for awhile i like it |
| 20:11.52 | Erica | If we all used the same thing for comparison's sake, numbers almost wouldn't even matter if they were consistent |
| 20:11.58 | RaydenUni | true |
| 20:12.17 | RaydenUni | once blizzard makes their own dps meter then it seems like that would be the standard |
| 20:12.35 | Erica | I'm just saying that the numbers I get on violation is different than I see on damagemeters/recount/swstats |
| 20:12.43 | Xuerian | Hopefully they'll improve on events in general when they convert text combat events into real events in 2.4 |
| 20:13.16 | Xuerian | combat events in general/text events |
| 20:13.25 | Erica | I've been using simplecombattext which helps a bit for ease of readability |
| 20:13.52 | Erica | the default combat log just makes my head hurt |
| 20:13.56 | Xuerian | I don't care about readability |
| 20:13.59 | Xuerian | Parasability |
| 20:14.10 | Xuerian | parseability, even >.> |
| 20:14.12 | Erica | what's what xuerian? |
| 20:14.17 | Erica | ah ok lol |
| 20:14.28 | RaydenUni | any reason to improve readability of the logs if i'm just using wowwebstats? |
| 20:14.43 | Erica | not that I can tell |
| 20:14.49 | Xuerian | only for your benefit |
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| 20:17.26 | Erica | Speeddymon thanks again for your help |
| 20:17.56 | hyperChipmunk | Tuller: omnicc's embeds.xml is pretty messed up |
| 20:18.10 | hyperChipmunk | .lua files are Script tags, not include |
| 20:18.11 | Tuller | hyperChipmunk: I fixed it, actually |
| 20:18.22 | hyperChipmunk | and there is no libs\LibSharedMedia-2.0\lib.xml |
| 20:18.29 | hyperChipmunk | Tuller: pfeh |
| 20:18.29 | Tuller | as in I just forgot to commit it :) |
| 20:18.34 | hyperChipmunk | /bonk |
| 20:19.43 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 20:19.44 | the-golem | lol |
| 20:21.56 | Funkeh` | Tuller, update to the latest LSM which doesn't have LS included in the file also >.< |
| 20:22.33 | Tuller | Funkeh`: already done :) |
| 20:22.47 | Mech0z | whats the mod called that tells you "this item gives you 12atp, 2% crit" |
| 20:22.50 | Tuller | I actually manually did that on the last release version |
| 20:22.54 | Tuller | Mech0z: ratingbuster |
| 20:22.59 | Mech0z | ah yes thanks |
| 20:23.00 | Funkeh` | Tuller, The one I updated just 5 min aog? ;p |
| 20:23.08 | Funkeh` | ago* |
| 20:23.27 | Funkeh` | bbl |
| 20:23.50 | Tuller | Funkeh`: well, either way my version of shared media does not have the embedded libstub :) |
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| 20:30.00 | JoshBorke | how dare you tuller! |
| 20:30.14 | Tuller | JoshBorke: ? |
| 20:30.24 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53232 10Postman/Postman.lua: |
| 20:30.24 | CIA-7 | Postman: |
| 20:30.25 | CIA-7 | - Changed money format so that it won't show 0 amount coins when sending over 1 gold, and also spaced out the coin amounts for readability |
| 20:30.32 | JoshBorke | something about not using libstub or something |
| 20:31.34 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke may not know what he's angry about, but he's really angry about it |
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| 20:32.29 | JoshBorke | i'm always angry |
| 20:33.12 | Ellipsis | I'll be your punching bag <3 |
| 20:33.39 | JoshBorke | that's ok, i'm not violent |
| 20:34.53 | Sirow | ping aestil |
| 20:35.01 | Sirow | ~ping aestil |
| 20:35.02 | purl | pong aestil |
| 20:35.29 | Sirow | ~seen aestil |
| 20:35.32 | purl | aestil is currently on #norganna (44m 36s) #wowace (44m 36s). Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 30m 17s, last said: 'and i get an error.'. |
| 20:36.10 | Ellipsis | he said he was going afk for lunch |
| 20:37.16 | Sirow | Well, he wanted to eat with his wife, I thinks whats taking so long ^^ |
| 20:38.07 | Sirow | Ellipsis: You got any error too with LibCD, I think I fixed the bug, but I didn't come accross any error messages :-/ |
| 20:39.02 | Sirow | Note: Take an english course -.- |
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| 21:01.02 | Fin | what I need |
| 21:01.21 | Fin | is a script that will go through all my addons, and tell me which libraries aren't being used anymore |
| 21:01.33 | xyu` | me too |
| 21:01.38 | xyu` | for when i uninstall things :( |
| 21:03.37 | Xinhuan | WAu does that i think! |
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| 21:04.34 | [gk]Hotphoenix | a reverse dependancy feature isn't as easy as it sounds :) |
| 21:04.50 | nevcairiel | just delete all libs and let WAU fetch the needed ones =P |
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| 21:05.41 | nevcairiel | or even easier, just look ingame in an addon panel like rMCP which LoD Libraries didnt get loaded.. :) |
| 21:06.04 | Saroz | whats the MC buff you get on teron called? |
| 21:06.09 | sylvanaar | yeah, i think jwow does it - wau you just select category library, and then check all the installed ones and say uninstall |
| 21:06.16 | Fin | well, I can do it in shell: http://fin.pastey.net/75806 |
| 21:06.50 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, what happens when i have both parser3.0 and parser4.0 both enabled in the addon screen? |
| 21:07.00 | Fin | YOU KILL THE WORLD |
| 21:07.15 | Ellipsis | your computer blows up |
| 21:07.16 | Ellipsis | imo |
| 21:07.21 | Xinhuan | would rMCP find that both are loaded? |
| 21:07.33 | Ellipsis | if both are loaded it will |
| 21:07.34 | Xinhuan | but one gets garbage collected? |
| 21:07.40 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 21:07.49 | nevcairiel | you need to use brain too |
| 21:08.09 | Xinhuan | it would be easy if the libraries are easy to locate, but they aren't lol! |
| 21:08.12 | nevcairiel | i think 4.0 has evil compat layers for all the lower ones |
| 21:08.14 | Ellipsis | both are showing as loaded ingame for me |
| 21:08.29 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:08.34 | Fisker- | i think i have a guardian angel within blizzard |
| 21:08.45 | Fisker- | i had this quest done quite a few months back and it had a spell damage shield |
| 21:08.55 | Fisker- | so we need it here for Leotharas later and i petitioned for it back :D |
| 21:08.57 | Fisker- | and i got :D |
| 21:08.58 | Fisker- | it |
| 21:09.06 | Ellipsis | why does that require a guardian angel? |
| 21:09.07 | Xinhuan | i am mildly upset at the moment, because i didn't get arena points from last week |
| 21:09.07 | Fisker- | without using any item reimbursements |
| 21:09.12 | Hjalte | Guys, what do you say.. If people are constantly spamming the trade channel with off-topic stuff, and often the same people starting and maintaining it, is it then okay to report them? |
| 21:09.13 | Xinhuan | and i have 2 valid teams to get points from |
| 21:09.21 | Fisker- | Ellipsis i disenchanted the quest reward several months ago |
| 21:09.28 | Xuerian | Fisker-: You got a item from months back? wtf |
| 21:09.29 | Fisker- | usually the logs only reach back a few months |
| 21:09.34 | durcyn | Fin: grep X-Category..Library */*.toc | cut -d\/ -f1 | while read i ; do printf "$i\t" ; cat */*.toc | grep -c $i ; done |
| 21:09.35 | Xuerian | hate ju |
| 21:09.36 | Xinhuan | and the GM says they cannot track gamse played from last week to verify this after the week is over |
| 21:09.42 | Ellipsis | you can restore items no matter how old they are |
| 21:09.45 | Xuerian | that's bullshit |
| 21:09.51 | Xinhuan | and yet i can't report points not being given out before the week is over |
| 21:09.55 | Fisker- | Ellipsis yeah "restore" |
| 21:09.57 | Fisker- | but they won't |
| 21:10.02 | Fisker- | they want to verify that you had them |
| 21:10.07 | Ellipsis | my bf restored that like level 30ish resist trinket for Sapphiron |
| 21:10.08 | Xuerian | I got a "could not restore because it was too long ago (<month)" for the blackhand's breadth upgrade |
| 21:10.08 | Fisker- | and that information only goes back a couple of months |
| 21:10.16 | Ellipsis | that he'd vendored years back |
| 21:10.28 | Fisker- | was it a quest though? |
| 21:10.29 | Xinhuan | so i'm mildly upset at the loss of 808 arena points! |
| 21:10.32 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 21:10.36 | Fisker- | i think it might be that |
| 21:10.41 | Fisker- | they can always look up a quest |
| 21:10.48 | Ellipsis | but yours was from a quest |
| 21:10.50 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Look at what I said o.0 |
| 21:11.22 | Fisker- | that's also another story though |
| 21:11.39 | Xuerian | Huh? |
| 21:11.46 | Fisker- | respeccing and so forth |
| 21:12.01 | Fisker- | misclicked arena items or tier items also have a 1-2 week period before they won't do anything |
| 21:12.09 | Fin | naughty durcyn! |
| 21:12.20 | Fisker- | because people would abuse it to respec and get the corresponding item |
| 21:12.26 | Fisker- | i guess it was the same for you |
| 21:12.30 | Xuerian | Well, whoever DID get a old item restored, tell me what you said to the gm, cause I want to try again >_o |
| 21:12.48 | durcyn | Fin: meh, not useless. |
| 21:12.57 | Fisker- | don't Xuerian |
| 21:13.04 | Fisker- | they look up your ticket history usually to check for that |
| 21:13.12 | Fisker- | and if they find a match they're going to kick your butt |
| 21:13.13 | Fin | cat */*.toc | grep -c $i is the same as grep -c $i */*.toc |
| 21:13.15 | Xuerian | graaagh |
| 21:13.18 | Fin | durcyn: thanks though :) |
| 21:13.22 | durcyn | Fin: nope, it isn't. |
| 21:13.26 | Fin | well, not quite |
| 21:13.30 | Xuerian | I want. that. Fricking. Trinket >_< |
| 21:13.46 | durcyn | Fin: the first grps across stdout consisting of all tocs, the latter does one grep per toc and gives you toc2 lines back |
| 21:13.49 | durcyn | greps* |
| 21:13.52 | Fin | cat */*.toc | grep -c $i does the same as grep -c $i -- */*.toc |
| 21:14.01 | Fisker- | would be awesome if they made it possible globally to just get old quest rewards back |
| 21:14.02 | Xuerian | Didn't respec or anything, just vendored it when I forgot I could use it (Quit before trinks were usable in forms, and forgot when I came back and was leveling) |
| 21:14.03 | durcyn | better. |
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| 21:14.09 | Fin | wait a second |
| 21:14.46 | Fin | it's still useless |
| 21:14.52 | durcyn | but not perfect =P |
| 21:15.01 | Xinhuan | remember you can only get 3 restorations per account |
| 21:15.12 | Xinhuan | once you use up all 3, you can't get anymore forever |
| 21:15.14 | Xuerian | I've never had anything restored |
| 21:15.16 | Fin | oh, it's 3 now? |
| 21:15.20 | Xinhuan | it has always been 3 |
| 21:15.24 | Fin | no it hasn't |
| 21:15.33 | Fin | at least, not in Europe |
| 21:15.35 | Fin | it used to be 1 |
| 21:15.37 | Xinhuan | it has been 3 for as far as i can remember in US |
| 21:15.49 | Ellipsis | they just lie |
| 21:16.08 | Ellipsis | I've never heard of anyone being refused because they'd restored too many items |
| 21:16.17 | Xinhuan | that is not true |
| 21:16.29 | durcyn | the really amusing part is, if you shard -everything- and tell them it was a keylogger, you get it back gratis |
| 21:16.33 | Xinhuan | i have guildies who have restored 3 items and got refused after that |
| 21:16.55 | CIA-7 | 03diablohu * r53233 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 21:16.55 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 21:16.55 | CIA-7 | - zhCN update |
| 21:16.58 | durcyn | or just open a new account and transfer the character to it |
| 21:17.00 | Fisker- | it's never been 3 |
| 21:17.01 | Fisker- | it was one |
| 21:17.02 | Xuerian | durcyn: Thus the irony. Accidentally vendor a quest item? UR SKREWED. OmgKeylogger?! HERS UR STUFF. |
| 21:17.11 | Fisker- | and then it was changed to "On a case by case basis" |
| 21:17.18 | Ellipsis | yeah...make an understandable mistake, too bad |
| 21:17.25 | Fisker- | there was one some weeks back that had like 15 restorations |
| 21:17.26 | durcyn | Xuerian: seriously. where's my godamn chained essence of eranikus! |
| 21:17.27 | Ellipsis | make a stupid one, get rewarded |
| 21:17.41 | Xuerian | durcyn: Don't tell me that's useful now |
| 21:17.42 | Fisker- | and complained about he was denied additional restorations |
| 21:17.53 | durcyn | Xuerian: no, but I disenchanted it before I knew about the quest to turn it in |
| 21:17.59 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 21:18.03 | Fin | they restore vendored items also, no? |
| 21:18.05 | Xuerian | durcyn: ah |
| 21:18.09 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 21:18.15 | Ellipsis | vendored, sharded, destroyed |
| 21:18.19 | durcyn | Fin: if you tell them a chinaman did it, sure! |
| 21:18.54 | Fin | why wouldn't they otherwise? |
| 21:19.00 | Fin | or are you talking about >3 restorations already? |
| 21:19.10 | Xuerian | fin: "It was too long ago omg" |
| 21:19.26 | Fisker- | http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=689&l=english <-rofl |
| 21:19.59 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Bahahahaha |
| 21:20.06 | Fisker- | people who don't get it fail btw |
| 21:20.08 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 21:20.12 | Xuerian | XD |
| 21:20.19 | Fin | cos then you'd have the initials XXX |
| 21:20.21 | durcyn | Fin: change the cat to a grep Deps */*.toc then, and it actually doesn't suck |
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| 21:20.23 | Fin | that would rule |
| 21:20.35 | Fin | but not for Googlejuice |
| 21:20.43 | Xuerian | Xuerian Xing X'a? Reminds me of a character on a nwn server I play on :p |
| 21:21.14 | Fin | durcyn: shell scripting rules |
| 21:22.21 | durcyn | oh, what do you know, deleted ALS but still have TheSocial laying around. thanks for the inspiration =P |
| 21:23.36 | Fin | heh |
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| 21:28.01 | Orionshock | morning all |
| 21:28.09 | Xuerian | 'Morning. |
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| 21:28.56 | Fin | aloha |
| 21:29.12 | Geckothan | Hai. |
| 21:29.29 | Orionshock | all i can say atm.. " I <3 simple mods" |
| 21:30.30 | Xinhuan | you should delete ace2 ;p |
| 21:30.31 | Fin | in reference to..? |
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| 21:30.39 | Xinhuan | cos ace2 is far from simple :) |
| 21:31.36 | Geckothan | I can't stand the "ace2 mods are minimalist" stereotype =P |
| 21:32.16 | Geckothan | Cause nothing could be further from the truth, people just happen to use them to make minimalist UI's, and it's developed into a "urban myth" among UI designers :p |
| 21:32.38 | CIA-7 | 03ominous * r53234 10Tattle/ (18 files in 18 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 21:34.45 | Orionshock | Fin: in referance to my own mod that is rather simple... :D |
| 21:37.17 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/ |
| 21:37.37 | Orionshock | & Thanks Xinhuan for helping me keep it simple |
| 21:38.04 | Xinhuan | you haven't added in the "roll over" yet ;p |
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| 21:39.32 | Orionshock | roll over? |
| 21:39.40 | RaydenUni | any shadowpriests running KZ have some wow web stats i can look over? |
| 21:39.46 | Xinhuan | when dailies reset |
| 21:39.49 | Xinhuan | at 4am |
| 21:39.50 | deltron | do a barrel rollover |
| 21:40.03 | Orionshock | that's daily fu and i can't seeem to figure out how to |
| 21:40.17 | Xinhuan | oh a diferent addon |
| 21:40.18 | Xinhuan | ? |
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| 21:40.28 | Orionshock | ya |
| 21:40.44 | Orionshock | SOCD is basic, DailyFu uses LibFB-3 |
| 21:40.59 | Xinhuan | i thought i gave suggestions on how to check for rollover |
| 21:41.11 | Orionshock | ya using an on update |
| 21:41.15 | Orionshock | and imho that is assinine |
| 21:41.37 | Xinhuan | you realise that a small onupdate handler barely uses 10 clock cycles right? |
| 21:41.44 | JoshBorke | there's no other way orionshock |
| 21:42.07 | Orionshock | that all depends,] |
| 21:42.12 | Orionshock | ttyl - off to work |
| 21:42.43 | JoshBorke | please explain to me how you can tell time without checking it periodically |
| 21:43.36 | sylvanaar | clock cycles? it uses alot more than 10 |
| 21:44.17 | Xinhuan | i would think a simple function to check if totalelapsedtime > treshold is just a simple add and comparison |
| 21:44.29 | Xinhuan | 2 instructions and a jump, plus a function call overhead |
| 21:44.34 | sylvanaar | no |
| 21:44.38 | JoshBorke | don't forget the function call overhead |
| 21:44.57 | Xinhuan | still, its cost is extremely small |
| 21:44.59 | hyperChipmunk | function call is more than 10 on its own, i believe |
| 21:45.10 | Xinhuan | i didn't include the overhead |
| 21:45.29 | JoshBorke | still, using an onupdate because it is an onupdate should not be a reason not to do something |
| 21:45.29 | hyperChipmunk | it counts |
| 21:45.29 | Xinhuan | but saying using an onupdate is asinine is a bit.. extreme |
| 21:46.10 | hyperChipmunk | using an onupdate because it's an extra function call every frame is a good reason >8) |
| 21:47.37 | Xinhuan | a well written onupdate is perfectly find in the grand scheme of things! |
| 21:47.44 | Xinhuan | s/find/fine/ |
| 21:49.40 | Xinhuan | if we want to talk about function call overheads, then most ace2 addons are terribly bad at it ;p |
| 21:50.34 | Xinhuan | registering an event ABC, then having ace2 call myaddon:ABC() is a function call overhead + tablelookup |
| 21:51.11 | Xinhuan | especially if its just a small 2-10 line function that a bunch of if-then-elseif-elseif-else-end can do in a single function |
| 21:51.22 | Xinhuan | without a single function call |
| 21:51.46 | Xinhuan | for each event |
| 21:51.57 | Fin | hey, Orion, your license is very similar to mine |
| 21:52.21 | sylvanaar | the difference is that only one function gets called vs going through 10 ifs |
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| 21:52.38 | Xinhuan | if you arrange the IFs in order of probability |
| 21:52.42 | Xinhuan | it is just as efficient |
| 21:52.52 | Xinhuan | most events only get fired once or twice |
| 21:53.04 | Xinhuan | well many |
| 21:53.05 | Xinhuan | in a whole game session |
| 21:53.15 | Fin | lua needs a continue |
| 21:53.25 | Xinhuan | like PEW, PLW |
| 21:53.26 | sylvanaar | function calls dont have that much overhead seriously |
| 21:53.52 | Xinhuan | yeah but the argument was about using onupdates ;p |
| 21:54.14 | Xinhuan | which was not to use it because it is a function call every frame! |
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| 21:55.05 | Fin | wouldn't it be cool, if the WoW authors had been drunk one day, and added something where you could just /run MakePlayerInvincible() |
| 21:55.23 | Fin | that would be cool |
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| 21:55.39 | aestil | ~seen sirow |
| 21:55.41 | purl | sirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4FD68.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 16m 39s ago, saying: 'Note: Take an english course -.-'. |
| 21:56.18 | CIA-7 | 03sirow * r53235 10LibCooldown-1.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:56.18 | CIA-7 | LibCooldown-1.0: |
| 21:56.18 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:58.14 | CIA-7 | 03fin * r53236 10FuBar_GarbageFu/GarbageFu_Vendor.lua: FuBar_GarbageFu: FuBar_GarbageFu/GarbageFu_Vendor.lua: fixed SellFish support |
| 21:58.50 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53237 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Teron.lua: |
| 21:58.50 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 21:58.50 | CIA-7 | - l2ScheduleEvent |
| 21:58.51 | CIA-7 | - Correct ghost bar texture |
| 21:58.53 | Saroz | !!!! |
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| 22:00.46 | aestil | lol fixed problem with libcooldown, hopefully. |
| 22:01.00 | aestil | did that push to the SVN at 3pm? or do i have to wait til 3.20 now? |
| 22:01.24 | Ellipsis | shoulda pushed already |
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| 22:07.44 | miica | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2406/1714023689_beaad313f4_o.jpg any idea what addon ? |
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| 22:08.03 | hyperChipmunk | i hate it when i have an awesome idea for a mod then forget what it is before i get a chance to write it |
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| 22:09.29 | Hjalte | miica: What addon that does what? |
| 22:09.55 | hyperChipmunk | also, anyone know of a real simple addon that just does altclick invites? |
| 22:09.59 | miica | Hjalte: that nice look :D |
| 22:10.05 | miica | Hjalte: those party frames etc |
| 22:10.38 | Hjalte | miica: Could be made with Pitbull, look on the forums for a thread with pitbull layouts and then another addon, called eepanels. |
| 22:15.51 | Chompers | eepanels2+fubar+pitbull+simpleminimap |
| 22:15.53 | Xinhuan | hyperChipmunk, there's an addon called PlayerLinkMenu on ui.incgamers.com i think, allows you to customize any combination of ctrl-shift-alt-clicks to common things |
| 22:15.54 | Chompers | and a few others |
| 22:16.07 | Xinhuan | like invite, guild invite, who, whisper, ignore, add friend, etc |
| 22:16.12 | Xinhuan | or open a menu with those options |
| 22:16.36 | Xinhuan | however i think there's a taint problem with it, but its easily fixed by changing a unsecurehook to a securehook |
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| 22:17.58 | CIA-7 | 03evenue * r53238 10TradeskillInfo/ (TradeskillData.lua TradeskillInfo.lua embeds.xml): |
| 22:17.58 | CIA-7 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 22:17.59 | CIA-7 | - Fixed all known recipes which previously would not show correctly in TSI gui |
| 22:17.59 | CIA-7 | - Any trade skill which can be learned from a picked up/auctioned recipe will now print on the recipe tooltip who can learn it |
| 22:17.59 | CIA-7 | - TSI no longer suffers from a stand-alone complex; embedded library users rejoice |
| 22:18.02 | CIA-7 | - Added detailed notes to prepare for patch 2.3 |
| 22:18.04 | CIA-7 | - Prepare for TSIUI integration |
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| 22:21.30 | aestil | Ellipsis: is it fixed for you yet? |
| 22:22.44 | Pkekyo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3mFj5M3Cbs completely full of win and awesome until the end of time |
| 22:22.49 | aestil | ~sirow |
| 22:23.05 | Pkekyo | ~seen sirow |
| 22:23.07 | purl | sirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4FD68.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 44m 5s ago, saying: 'Note: Take an english course -.-'. |
| 22:23.07 | Pkekyo | ? |
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| 22:24.54 | CIA-7 | 03gamefaq * r53239 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 22:24.54 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 22:24.54 | CIA-7 | - deDE Update |
| 22:25.38 | Erica | Hi... have a rock configurator question. When I try to change the texture of some mods like chronometer bars, the list goes off the screen at the bottom and I can't access the full list. Is there a way to get the list to wrap? |
| 22:26.29 | Stanzilla | Erica: use your mouse wheel |
| 22:27.08 | Erica | oh wow nice... Thanks! :) |
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| 22:29.37 | aestil | Ellipsis: ping |
| 22:30.19 | Ellipsis | pong |
| 22:31.40 | Industrial | pang |
| 22:31.44 | aestil | is libCD working for you? |
| 22:31.48 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 22:31.48 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 22:32.10 | CIA-7 | 03gamefaq * r53240 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 22:32.10 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 22:32.10 | CIA-7 | - Typo Fix |
| 22:32.25 | Ellipsis | aestil: iunno |
| 22:32.29 | Ellipsis | haven't tested yet |
| 22:32.56 | aestil | fail |
| 22:33.42 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 22:33.45 | Ellipsis | i sowwy |
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| 22:40.26 | Strychnos | What is the format of the color strings in Lua/WoW? (ie: |cFF0000FF|r |
| 22:40.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's it |
| 22:40.47 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 22:40.47 | nevcairiel | AARRGGBB |
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| 22:40.57 | nevcairiel | with |c in front and |r behind :P |
| 22:41.02 | Strychnos | Is the AA alpha? |
| 22:41.06 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 22:41.12 | Strychnos | Cool, that was throwing me off. |
| 22:41.13 | Strychnos | Thanks :) |
| 22:41.21 | pastamancer | AARRGGHH? |
| 22:41.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 22:44.19 | Funkeh` | Saroz, I'm still waiting for that naj code |
| 22:44.30 | Funkeh` | slut |
| 22:46.41 | Strychnos | next question: Is there an escape sequence for a new line like \n in Java? |
| 22:47.23 | Xuerian | \n >_> |
| 22:47.32 | Strychnos | That was too easy |
| 22:47.36 | Strychnos | I should have just tried it :) |
| 22:47.42 | Xuerian | Doesn't work everywhere, but yeah |
| 22:47.56 | hyperChipmunk | read the PIL before asking questions like that in here |
| 22:48.15 | Strychnos | yesmassah |
| 22:48.28 | Xuerian | pffffff |
| 22:48.35 | Xuerian | bugging devs > pillz |
| 22:48.41 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 22:48.59 | Xuerian | pfff. |
| 22:49.03 | Strychnos | pfff. |
| 22:49.10 | hyperChipmunk | spend a couple hours save a ton of time and frustration |
| 22:49.11 | Xinhuan | pfff. |
| 22:49.20 | Xuerian | Pfff! |
| 22:49.49 | Strychnos | This is like a 150 line program |
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| 22:50.08 | Strychnos | I'm not too worried about learning the language in-depth |
| 22:50.37 | Xuerian | Bugging the devs because it's fun is one thing. Bugging the allmightys because you're too lazy?!?! |
| 22:50.40 | Xuerian | BLASPHEMY! |
| 22:50.51 | Xuerian | BEGONE TO PILLZ! |
| 22:50.58 | Strychnos | I can ctrl-F there or /type here =P |
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| 22:51.16 | Xuerian | Begone >.> |
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| 22:51.42 | aestil | Xuerian: ty for the xloot fix |
| 22:51.57 | hyperChipmunk | Strychnos: trust me |
| 22:51.59 | Xuerian | aestil: Ayep. Point out anything else that doesn't work |
| 22:52.02 | hyperChipmunk | for your own good |
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| 22:53.24 | Xinhuan | i kinda smiled at the last commit about 3 pages of ruckus |
| 22:53.32 | Xinhuan | what's it all about btw? |
| 22:53.35 | Xinhuan | (i don't use xloot) |
| 22:54.01 | aestil | loot frame was huge |
| 22:54.16 | Xuerian | The ruckus? SetPoint'ing a frame that is partly offscreen results in weird things if you don't ClearAllPoints first, in this case, it stretched the frame and anchored the two offscreen points permanently offscreen |
| 22:54.31 | Strychnos | I hate it when that happens. |
| 22:54.39 | Xinhuan | so... |
| 22:54.49 | Xinhuan | what was the fix? |
| 22:55.08 | Xuerian | XLootFrame:ClearAllPoints() before XLootFrame:SetPoint(...) |
| 22:55.15 | Xuerian | There was much todo over that >.> |
| 22:55.19 | Xinhuan | rofl that's it? |
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| 22:55.29 | Xinhuan | and people came up with 3 pages of weird solutions? |
| 22:55.33 | Xuerian | Yep :p |
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| 22:57.13 | _rane | is there a way to make getting items from mail faster? |
| 22:57.26 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 22:57.35 | Xinhuan | making it go faster tends to get you "internal mail errors" |
| 22:57.39 | Xuerian | Any of the various mail mods facilitate making it easier. None really truly make it faster |
| 22:58.00 | Hjalte | I used to like Postmans rightclick-retrieve-item way of doing it. |
| 22:58.10 | Xinhuan | used to? |
| 22:58.16 | kenlyric | eh, just ignore the errors :) |
| 22:58.28 | kenlyric | bm2inbox is pretty fast. |
| 22:58.36 | _rane | so what addon do you suggest? |
| 22:58.38 | _rane | ok, thank you |
| 22:58.40 | Xinhuan | Postal uses shift-click to retrieve quickly |
| 22:58.40 | dylanm | I use tekkub's ExpressMail... works fine for me. |
| 22:58.52 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: I am using Postal now, because of some annoyances in Postman, that I believe however has been fixed now. |
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| 22:59.07 | Xinhuan | postal isn't being maintained at all |
| 22:59.12 | Xinhuan | author ditched it |
| 22:59.16 | Xinhuan | that's the problem |
| 22:59.26 | kenlyric | I can't live without bulkmail |
| 22:59.44 | kenlyric | run to mailbox, empty bags, back to work. |
| 23:01.37 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r653 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (4 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - Ally Winterspring! |
| 23:02.00 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: <3 |
| 23:03.18 | kenlyric | between that and appraiser, my entire system is fairly streamlined. dump everything on the alt char, when bags get full enough go to AH and spam post button. |
| 23:04.08 | CIA-7 | 03strange * r53241 10FuriousRaid/: |
| 23:04.08 | CIA-7 | FuriousRaid: |
| 23:04.08 | CIA-7 | - corrected externals |
| 23:04.17 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 23:04.34 | CIA-7 | 03bayi * r53242 10beql/extra/ (questhistory.lua questhistory.xml): |
| 23:04.34 | CIA-7 | beql: |
| 23:04.34 | CIA-7 | - QuestHistory: Added Description panel to display stored data about the actual quest |
| 23:04.34 | CIA-7 | - QuestHistory: Added Filters to display only completed/notcompleted/daily/ or simply all quests |
| 23:04.34 | CIA-7 | - QuestHistory: Added Filter select button |
| 23:04.51 | aestil | sirow, ping |
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| 23:05.09 | Sirow | I'm here :> |
| 23:05.23 | Sirow | updated LibCD |
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| 23:08.39 | Ellipsis | oh hey, since when does Fire Shield give resistance too o.O |
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| 23:10.29 | aestil | again? cause i tired it, and it failed. |
| 23:11.01 | durcyn | since forever ago, Ellipsis. |
| 23:11.13 | Ellipsis | I need to pay closer attention to my class :( |
| 23:11.26 | durcyn | the changes to soothing kiss and torment, though, are newish |
| 23:11.37 | durcyn | now only 95% useless! |
| 23:11.42 | Ellipsis | and consume shadows |
| 23:11.49 | Ellipsis | that one threw me when I used my VW the other day |
| 23:11.59 | durcyn | i haven't summoned a succubus or voidwalker in close to six months. |
| 23:12.01 | Ellipsis | I was like "wtf there's a point to this now?" |
| 23:12.21 | Ellipsis | I use my succy a lot because pugs want CC |
| 23:12.29 | Ellipsis | VW almost never though |
| 23:12.33 | durcyn | that's what fear is for, ma'am. |
| 23:12.36 | Ellipsis | I was on adds in BM though :/ |
| 23:12.48 | Ellipsis | fear > seduce |
| 23:12.57 | Ellipsis | but people are like "omg no u wil pull moar!!!11" |
| 23:13.02 | Ellipsis | nubcakes |
| 23:14.32 | dylanm | Are you a CoR wiz or something? |
| 23:15.29 | Ellipsis | I have it macro'd for controlling fear |
| 23:15.30 | durcyn | focus mob. cast fear on focus, cast coex on focus, cast reck on focus, repeat |
| 23:15.43 | Ellipsis | don't have CoEx |
| 23:16.19 | Ellipsis | I do reck/tongues since tongues is less mana |
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| 23:17.02 | Ellipsis | er, not tognues, weakness |
| 23:17.09 | Ellipsis | I've forgotten my own macros :( |
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| 23:21.16 | Xinhuan | hmm if you unsummon your imp, does your fire shield buff go away? |
| 23:22.06 | durcyn | no |
| 23:28.09 | NeoTron | so we'v ebeen in hyjal 1.5 nights.. and already are we tired of that trash |
| 23:28.35 | NeoTron | or rather the fact you have to redo the trash each attempt.. with a prot pally the trash is rather easy |
| 23:29.42 | Ellipsis | a raid with boring/annoying trash? no wai |
| 23:34.06 | Eggi | hyjal trash is not so bad |
| 23:34.58 | Eggi | takes you ~2-3h to clear when you have learned it |
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| 23:41.19 | NeoTron | ah if you don't wipe it's ok |
| 23:41.22 | NeoTron | however |
| 23:41.28 | NeoTron | when you wipe it's bad |
| 23:41.39 | NeoTron | it's like clearing the trash to Kael'thas every time you want to try him :P |
| 23:41.57 | NeoTron | especially annoying when you get to the boss and the MT dies in 20 seconds and you need to start all over |
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| 23:48.55 | CIA-7 | 03yhwh * r53243 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 23:48.55 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 23:48.55 | CIA-7 | -updata zhCN |
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| 23:54.42 | aestil | KT trash is irriatating, becuase of the respawn. |
| 23:54.56 | aestil | other than that, its not too bad in general |
| 23:55.04 | aestil | its not like ssc trash. i hate that place. |
| 23:55.26 | NivFreak | Which bosses are directly accessible in TK? |
| 23:56.16 | NivFreak | all of them? |
| 23:56.31 | aestil | all but TK |
| 23:56.43 | aestil | you have to kill the 3 to attempt tk |
| 23:58.59 | Ellipsis | soup is awesome |
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