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| 00:12.25 | CIA-7 | 03avai * r53244 10FuBar_tTracker/FuBar_tTrackerLocals.lua: |
| 00:12.25 | CIA-7 | FuBar_tTracker: |
| 00:12.25 | CIA-7 | - Added zhTW localization. |
| 00:13.27 | CIA-7 | 03avai * r53245 10FuBar_tTracker/FuBar_tTrackerLocals.lua: |
| 00:13.27 | CIA-7 | FuBar_tTracker: |
| 00:13.27 | CIA-7 | - Added zhTW localization. |
| 00:13.41 | Ellipsis | am I seeing double? |
| 00:14.34 | Xinhuan | i don't think you can do a null commit - a commit that does nothing |
| 00:14.48 | Xinhuan | so i suppose something changed between those 2 revisions |
| 00:15.21 | Ellipsis | which makes you wonder what... |
| 00:15.21 | Geckothan | Probably made a stupid mistake like a typo or something and didn't realize it until he'd already committed it >< |
| 00:15.28 | Ellipsis | but I don't think I want to know |
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| 00:24.12 | Ellipsis | anyone know if there's an addon that creates extra unit frames for Sage like the one that agUF has? |
| 00:24.33 | Tuller | not one I'm aware of |
| 00:25.36 | kenlyric | I don't get this. My keybindings are still set in key bindings, but no longer are printed on autobar and no longer work. |
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| 00:27.25 | Ellipsis | Tuller: how hard would it be to write a little lua bit that would generate them? |
| 00:27.43 | Tuller | Ellipsis: well, what are you trying to do? |
| 00:28.10 | Ellipsis | I *need* a pet target frame |
| 00:29.00 | Tuller | well, take a look at the target of target frame code :) |
| 00:29.18 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
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| 00:30.19 | RaydenUni | where does the position information for addon windows go? |
| 00:30.36 | RaydenUni | i have a real time dps graph for recount that is half off the screen so i can't grab it |
| 00:30.45 | Ellipsis | some goes into layout-cache.txt in the character's WTF fdir |
| 00:30.48 | Ellipsis | dir* |
| 00:30.55 | Ellipsis | the rest goes into addon SVs |
| 00:32.22 | RaydenUni | Recount.lua is 62000 lines! |
| 00:32.26 | RaydenUni | can i just delete it? |
| 00:32.26 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 00:32.30 | RaydenUni | and it will get recreated? |
| 00:32.41 | Ellipsis | yeah, but it will reset all your settings and stuff to defaults |
| 00:32.54 | Ellipsis | and any saved data will be lost as well |
| 00:34.25 | RaydenUni | i can't think of any other way to get rid of this window |
| 00:35.34 | Ellipsis | er, you could manually edit the files |
| 00:35.57 | RaydenUni | like i said |
| 00:35.58 | RaydenUni | 62k lines |
| 00:37.12 | JoshBorke | RaydenUni: did you try /recount resetpos? |
| 00:37.23 | RaydenUni | it's not the main recount window |
| 00:37.29 | RaydenUni | it's a dps graph window |
| 00:37.34 | JoshBorke | so you did try it? |
| 00:37.43 | RaydenUni | and the reset position only affects the main window |
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| 00:39.05 | JoshBorke | RaydenUni: one second |
| 00:39.26 | RaydenUni | it's too late now |
| 00:39.36 | RaydenUni | but i guess it would be nice and masochistic to see i didn't have to delete it |
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| 00:41.49 | Paradox | what's the Focus frame for in Quarts? |
| 00:41.53 | Paradox | Quartz* |
| 00:41.59 | Paradox | isn't Focus = Target? |
| 00:42.05 | RaydenUni | no |
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| 00:42.13 | RaydenUni | you can make a unit focuse |
| 00:42.15 | RaydenUni | focused |
| 00:42.25 | RaydenUni | and you can make the focus your target |
| 00:42.25 | fridgid | its basicly a 2nd target frame |
| 00:42.32 | RaydenUni | it's a way of keeping a "2nd" target |
| 00:42.34 | fridgid | you bind it to your 'focus' and its just like a target |
| 00:42.57 | RaydenUni | useful for if you are a rogue and you want to see how long a mob is sapped |
| 00:43.04 | RaydenUni | so you make that mob your focus |
| 00:43.32 | Paradox | ohh I see |
| 00:43.34 | Ellipsis | it's great for CCing in general, or for healers to keep an eye on the MT while healing other people |
| 00:43.40 | RaydenUni | you have to set up the keys for it |
| 00:43.45 | RaydenUni | they aren't set by default |
| 00:43.55 | Paradox | for example, in arena, I can set the healer for Focus and attack the DPS class, and see when the healer is about to heal, target and interrupt him etc? |
| 00:44.11 | durcyn | dont' even have to target |
| 00:44.17 | durcyn | can use /cast [target=focus] interrupt |
| 00:44.20 | NivFreak | uggg |
| 00:44.22 | Paradox | oh sweet |
| 00:44.22 | NivFreak | I hate that so much |
| 00:44.24 | NivFreak | freaking mages |
| 00:44.25 | Paradox | that is awesome |
| 00:44.28 | NivFreak | with counterspell macros |
| 00:44.37 | Paradox | mine will be a earth shock macro ;p |
| 00:44.49 | NivFreak | earth shock has a small range though, right? |
| 00:45.01 | Paradox | 20 yards |
| 00:45.05 | Paradox | usually enough in arena |
| 00:45.10 | NivFreak | not terribl |
| 00:45.11 | NivFreak | e |
| 00:45.20 | Paradox | wow that rocks so much I never knew.. |
| 00:45.24 | NivFreak | anyway |
| 00:45.25 | NivFreak | CS is 30 |
| 00:45.26 | NivFreak | it sucks |
| 00:45.33 | NivFreak | or wait |
| 00:45.36 | NivFreak | it's not CS that sucks |
| 00:45.37 | RaydenUni | i use it for my shackles |
| 00:45.41 | NivFreak | it's the polly focus macro |
| 00:45.48 | RaydenUni | or if i'm doing an escort quest so i can keep an eye on the guy's health |
| 00:45.49 | NivFreak | I have some mage beating on me |
| 00:45.54 | NivFreak | then he casts sheep |
| 00:45.55 | NivFreak | so I wait |
| 00:45.59 | NivFreak | then the healer gets poly'd |
| 00:46.09 | NivFreak | such an evil trick |
| 00:47.25 | Paradox | can /focus tell the spell rank of an enemy? |
| 00:47.27 | RaydenUni | anyone here have wowwebstats from KZ with a shadowpriest in it? |
| 00:47.34 | Paradox | cause quartz has a spell rank option on it |
| 00:47.39 | RaydenUni | Paradox it shows up as a unit frame like any other |
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| 00:47.48 | durcyn | Paradox: spell rank is part of the API, independant of focus |
| 00:48.02 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: sure |
| 00:48.03 | Paradox | um |
| 00:48.04 | RaydenUni | focus exists all the time |
| 00:48.09 | Paradox | I know |
| 00:48.12 | RaydenUni | all your mod will do is display a frame for the focused unit |
| 00:48.20 | RaydenUni | so it will act just like target |
| 00:48.25 | Ellipsis | Quartz has a focus cast bar |
| 00:48.29 | Paradox | I know, but can /focus "get" the spell rank of the caster, if it's an enemy |
| 00:48.31 | Ellipsis | so you can see what your focus target is casting with that |
| 00:48.48 | Pkekyo | so...I updated my graphics driver... |
| 00:48.48 | Pkekyo | and now I've got pre-windows 95 graphics quality... |
| 00:48.49 | Pkekyo | fucksake |
| 00:48.49 | RaydenUni | what do you mean get? |
| 00:48.52 | Paradox | i'm asking because quartz has "show spell rank" on it's /focus bar |
| 00:48.58 | RaydenUni | how does /target "get" the spell rank? |
| 00:49.03 | Paradox | but if it's an enemy, i'm asking if it can tell the spell rank |
| 00:49.08 | RaydenUni | can target? |
| 00:49.17 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: http://wowwebstats.com/qy6ec26aatc65 |
| 00:49.20 | RaydenUni | i would assume it's the same as target |
| 00:49.22 | Paradox | I don't get what's so confusing about my question >_> |
| 00:49.33 | RaydenUni | what's not to understand about my answer? |
| 00:49.33 | Ellipsis | Paradox: it can do anything for focus that it can do for target |
| 00:49.51 | RaydenUni | as far as information goes, it's identical to target |
| 00:49.53 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: will that work? |
| 00:49.54 | Paradox | ok.. can you see enemy spell ranks then/ |
| 00:49.59 | RaydenUni | i think NivFreak |
| 00:50.03 | NivFreak | k |
| 00:50.04 | NivFreak | enjoy |
| 00:50.04 | RaydenUni | i want to compare dps and usage of spells |
| 00:50.06 | NivFreak | I'm out of here |
| 00:50.08 | RaydenUni | trying to see how i can improve |
| 00:50.09 | RaydenUni | thanks |
| 00:50.09 | Ellipsis | Paradox: how should we know? |
| 00:50.11 | NivFreak | oh |
| 00:50.13 | NivFreak | holy on |
| 00:50.18 | NivFreak | let me find you one with a better shadow priest ;) |
| 00:50.27 | Paradox | what? |
| 00:50.36 | RaydenUni | i did 450dps last attument run |
| 00:50.37 | Paradox | im just asking if you know, why /wouldn't/ you? |
| 00:50.39 | Ellipsis | Paradox: you're the one that wants to use it for that :P |
| 00:50.43 | Ellipsis | RaydenUni: l2play |
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| 00:50.54 | Paradox | it seems a rather good thing to use if you are a pvper |
| 00:50.57 | RaydenUni | i know Ellipsis that's what i'm doing :P |
| 00:51.19 | RaydenUni | i've never paid attention to enemy spell rank as they cast |
| 00:51.24 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: here's a prince kill with one of our better spriests |
| 00:51.25 | RaydenUni | so i don't know if wow tells you that |
| 00:51.26 | NivFreak | http://wowwebstats.com/1vxqsupibz36a |
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| 00:51.39 | NivFreak | nothing past crafted/kara gear |
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| 00:51.55 | RaydenUni | you guys do almost double our dps :P |
| 00:52.08 | RaydenUni | but quite a few of our dps guys were running bad builds |
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| 00:52.29 | NivFreak | our progression is kara, and like 4 gruul kills |
| 00:52.30 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:52.49 | NivFreak | and that prince kill is when we only had kara |
| 00:52.55 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 00:52.58 | Ellipsis | apparently I'm raiding |
| 00:52.59 | Ellipsis | bbl |
| 00:53.15 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: http://wowwebstats.com/ju3hwb2szpvmc |
| 00:53.20 | NivFreak | there's a slightly older one |
| 00:53.22 | NivFreak | with real names |
| 00:53.29 | NivFreak | realm is frostwolf if you want to look at gear |
| 00:53.36 | RaydenUni | thanks |
| 00:53.44 | NivFreak | !c us frostwolf Phoezzhe |
| 00:53.46 | RaydenUni | real names? |
| 00:53.47 | NivFreak | something like that? |
| 00:53.50 | RaydenUni | the other ones aren't normal names? |
| 00:53.57 | NivFreak | the other ones were anonymous links |
| 00:53.58 | RaydenUni | yeah the bot was down earlier though |
| 00:54.06 | NivFreak | Phoezzhe is the better shadow priest |
| 00:54.13 | Mecdemort | Does anyone know of an addon that will auto roll on say BoE loot and do nothing on BoP, or being configurable to do such? |
| 00:54.28 | NivFreak | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Phoezzhe |
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| 00:54.40 | NivFreak | gear is so-so |
| 00:54.43 | NivFreak | great player though |
| 00:55.03 | NivFreak | too bad he quit |
| 00:55.05 | durcyn | bizarre choice of main hand |
| 00:55.20 | NivFreak | It's what he had |
| 00:55.27 | RaydenUni | my weapon is better |
| 00:55.32 | NivFreak | we've had really bad luck with prince dropping daggers |
| 00:55.35 | NivFreak | 3 in 6 months |
| 00:55.39 | NivFreak | killed every week |
| 00:55.40 | durcyn | still, runesong |
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| 00:56.00 | NivFreak | I have runesong on my priest |
| 00:56.08 | RaydenUni | his build is almost identical to mine |
| 00:56.08 | NivFreak | but people have issues getting it |
| 00:56.15 | RaydenUni | interesting he uses blackout though |
| 00:56.28 | NivFreak | not like spirit tap gets you much in raids |
| 00:56.33 | NivFreak | I love blackout for pvp/solo |
| 00:56.35 | Geckothan | Easy enough to farm arena points from low-rated 5v5 every week and get the S2 dagger, it'll take a while but it'll last until Leotheras, or potentially until Archimonde. |
| 00:56.41 | RaydenUni | but blackout can cause problems for the tank can't it? |
| 00:56.42 | Geckothan | On the mainhand choice thing. |
| 00:56.53 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: yes, it can |
| 00:57.01 | NivFreak | only on trash |
| 00:57.10 | NivFreak | but honestly |
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| 00:57.14 | NivFreak | our mace spec'd rogue pisses me off more |
| 00:57.20 | Geckothan | But I'm a warlock so I'm not gonna comment on anything shadowpriest-related :P |
| 00:57.23 | NivFreak | blackout doesn't proc enough to rage starve a tank |
| 00:57.28 | NivFreak | it's just positioning |
| 00:57.41 | NivFreak | Geckothan: you missed that part about him quitting ;) |
| 00:57.49 | RaydenUni | Geckothan shadow priests don't really care about crit |
| 00:57.57 | RaydenUni | we care about hit up until 76, and then mostly +dmg |
| 00:58.04 | Geckothan | Ah, well, I'm half asleep at the moment NivFreak =[ |
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| 00:58.19 | Paradox | is there any way to /cast <spell> rank 7 (but if not enough mana) /cast <spell> rank 1? |
| 00:58.22 | NivFreak | He spent all his time farming mats for his spellstrike and FSW |
| 00:58.25 | Paradox | in a macro |
| 00:58.29 | NivFreak | and raiding kara |
| 00:58.34 | NivFreak | then quit when he finished his FSW |
| 00:58.34 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:58.37 | Erica | just noticed that mining nodes aren't being saved when using cartographer... I don't see it on the main map nor the minimap |
| 00:58.45 | NivFreak | Paradox: no |
| 00:58.49 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 00:58.53 | Paradox | ok |
| 00:59.05 | RaydenUni | phoezze's damage spread on spells is almost identical to mine |
| 00:59.05 | NivFreak | I can't wait for 2.3 |
| 00:59.09 | NivFreak | I might raid my spriest again |
| 00:59.19 | Geckothan | Vashj on monday or tuesday >< I'm staying up late to watch tactics vids, hence why I'm half asleep :P |
| 00:59.20 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: how are you about keeping your dots up |
| 00:59.23 | RaydenUni | but my mind flay is 44% and his is 27% and my minb blast and SWD are both really low |
| 00:59.31 | NivFreak | so bad |
| 00:59.31 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:59.41 | RaydenUni | one moment |
| 00:59.47 | RaydenUni | http://raydenuni.com/wow/logs/wws-20071022-0205/raydenuni.html |
| 00:59.51 | RaydenUni | compare that to Phoezze |
| 00:59.56 | NivFreak | the trick with your dots is to make sure your recast hits, right after they fade |
| 00:59.59 | NivFreak | otherwise you lose a tick |
| 01:00.06 | RaydenUni | SWP 25, 26% VT 17% for both |
| 01:00.18 | Geckothan | From the looks of the tactics, it looks like we'll never get her down, but I said the same thing about Leotheras, the same thing about Karathress and even LOLTHERIDON before we killed them :/ |
| 01:00.18 | Nefarion | What is SRA? |
| 01:00.29 | RaydenUni | but Mind blast 7%:14: and SWD 4%:12: |
| 01:00.42 | Nefarion | Anyone know? "Sexually offensive addon that eats coconuts for breakfast." What does it actually do...? |
| 01:00.47 | RaydenUni | mind flay 44%:27% |
| 01:00.55 | RaydenUni | so he is using mind blast and SWD way more than me |
| 01:00.58 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: here's one good question |
| 01:00.58 | NivFreak | are you threat capped? |
| 01:01.17 | RaydenUni | not on the main tank :D |
| 01:01.20 | durcyn | Nefarion: it's a sandbox raid-assist replacement.. use oRA2 if you want something functional |
| 01:01.27 | RaydenUni | i died fighting midnight because i aggro'd attumen :D |
| 01:01.28 | Geckothan | I think it's supposed to be "oRA3" but it never got finished, but that's just a vague guess based on a forum post I read ages ago, Nefarion.. |
| 01:01.33 | NivFreak | if you're threat capped, you won't be able to use SW:D and MB much |
| 01:01.38 | Nefarion | thanks guys |
| 01:01.39 | NivFreak | your tank really has an impact on your DPS |
| 01:01.42 | Geckothan | bah somebody beat me to it :P |
| 01:01.44 | NivFreak | you can take out VE to drop your threat |
| 01:01.47 | Geckothan | and explained it better :( |
| 01:02.07 | NivFreak | but really |
| 01:02.13 | NivFreak | if your tank's TPS sucks |
| 01:02.18 | NivFreak | you're not gonna have great DPS |
| 01:02.50 | RaydenUni | it would be nice if WWS recorded threat as well |
| 01:02.57 | NivFreak | well |
| 01:02.58 | NivFreak | it does in a way |
| 01:03.22 | RaydenUni | how? |
| 01:03.57 | RaydenUni | good grief |
| 01:04.07 | NivFreak | there's a parser |
| 01:04.07 | RaydenUni | i'm doing 200dmg avg with my want, he does 356! |
| 01:04.09 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 01:04.50 | NivFreak | I think he's wand spec'd |
| 01:04.50 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 01:05.18 | RaydenUni | i have wand spec |
| 01:05.27 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: http://www.coolyo.org/?area=threat |
| 01:05.53 | RaydenUni | the crap |
| 01:06.01 | NivFreak | so you pass it in the warrior's page |
| 01:06.02 | RaydenUni | our wands have nearly identical dps |
| 01:06.03 | NivFreak | from WWS |
| 01:06.16 | NivFreak | and it'll estimate sustained TPS |
| 01:06.21 | NivFreak | It's not perfect |
| 01:06.27 | NivFreak | but it's useful for relative comparisons |
| 01:06.51 | NivFreak | you might need the hosted reports though |
| 01:06.53 | NivFreak | anyway |
| 01:06.53 | NivFreak | home I go |
| 01:06.58 | RaydenUni | thanks a lot |
| 01:07.33 | RaydenUni | i can't get it to work |
| 01:07.36 | RaydenUni | what page do i send it? |
| 01:08.17 | RaydenUni | oh there |
| 01:08.58 | NeoTron | so is Rage Winterchill unusually squishy? (low armor) |
| 01:09.22 | NeoTron | just curious how our rogue did 1382 DPS w/o windfury |
| 01:09.45 | NeoTron | and my pet did like 50-70 dps higher than usual (felguard) |
| 01:09.56 | Orphis_ | Well, I don't think rage wears plate |
| 01:10.05 | RaydenUni | yeah that threat page only works on the hosted pages |
| 01:10.13 | Orphis_ | And I've found a bug in oRA2 ! |
| 01:10.40 | NeoTron | fun fact: on anetheron the NPC's did 6500 DPS contributing 27% of all dmg done :) |
| 01:12.36 | RaydenUni | i was all confused earlier |
| 01:12.49 | RaydenUni | i was the one using mind blast and SWD more than Phoezze |
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| 01:15.40 | MoonWitch | alrighty everyone .. you can call me stupid or whatever, but how on earth do I 1) code a frame in pure lua that is hidden at first and 2) get the damn slash commands to work on that frame LOL ... With xml I can get it to work fine, but omitting the xml, the frame just shows up, isn't movable (which is technically should be)... |
| 01:17.02 | dylanm | Show the code. |
| 01:18.02 | MoonWitch | http://ace.pastey.net/75809 |
| 01:18.14 | MoonWitch | setHidden was a wild guess to get the frame to hide |
| 01:18.35 | dylanm | :Hide() will do fine. |
| 01:18.35 | MoonWitch | actually, most is wild guessing after I tried every wiki thing I could find |
| 01:18.42 | MoonWitch | I did.. it still shows |
| 01:19.03 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53246 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 01:19.03 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:19.03 | CIA-7 | -Changed all references to AckisRecipeList involving the DB to self. |
| 01:19.07 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.11 | dylanm | This line is wrong. |
| 01:19.31 | dylanm | That's why nothing works. |
| 01:19.55 | dylanm | You're running the function that the slash command is supposed to run. It shows the frame and the slash command gets hooked to the return value of the function. |
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| 01:20.01 | dylanm | Which is nil. |
| 01:20.35 | Nefarion | you want it to be SlashCmdList["DASHBOARD"] = Dashboard_pfft; |
| 01:20.55 | dylanm | Yessir. |
| 01:20.57 | MoonWitch | so with () it hooks the return value |
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| 01:21.06 | MoonWitch | without () it refers to the function itself |
| 01:21.11 | Nefarion | You're setting the SlashCmdList entry to the function, not its return. The parenthesis will call the function and set its return. |
| 01:21.11 | RaydenUni | so i'm comparing WWS with another shadow priest. his avg dmg for SWP is 536 and my avg is 511 BUT his max is 1623 and my max is 675... seems kind of odd |
| 01:21.15 | dylanm | Right. Functions are values too. |
| 01:21.23 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 01:21.25 | dylanm | And that's what you want here. |
| 01:21.28 | MoonWitch | now it makes sense |
| 01:21.45 | MoonWitch | hte pfft was cuz I am/was annoyed ;) |
| 01:21.46 | Nefarion | Think of functions as variables (that's really what they are). You're setting it equal to the variable itself. |
| 01:21.49 | dylanm | Also, since you evaluated it it's showing the frame. |
| 01:22.11 | dylanm | And just setting movable="true" doesn't make the frame draggable, afaik. |
| 01:22.41 | Nefarion | you don't need "local frame = Create...." if you're using a frame name (2nd passed arg) |
| 01:22.42 | Anacleto | Does anyone which Fubar addon is the one that continuosly keep telling (printing on screen) "Couldn't find PlayerName" (PlayerName being other players with you on the BG) while on a blattleground? |
| 01:22.51 | Anacleto | anyone ^knows |
| 01:23.04 | Nefarion | If you're going to use "local frame = ..." then access "frame" from there on, as it's faster than accessing the frame's global value |
| 01:23.18 | Nefarion | line 5 |
| 01:23.47 | Nefarion | and change line 15 to "frame:Hide()" to have it autohide when create |
| 01:23.49 | Nefarion | d |
| 01:23.50 | dylanm | You could disable some FuBar addons until it becomes clear... |
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| 01:24.05 | Geckothan | nn ^_^ |
| 01:24.12 | MoonWitch | am I missing something in my slashcommands to get it working? |
| 01:24.22 | dylanm | Did you make all the changes we suggested? |
| 01:24.26 | MoonWitch | (ps. this is the very first addon attempt, in case it wasn't showing) |
| 01:24.40 | MoonWitch | yeah, I omitted the local frame = new etc |
| 01:24.43 | MoonWitch | removed () |
| 01:24.49 | MoonWitch | changed :hide() |
| 01:24.50 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53247 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Kick syncs to a bucketed event. |
| 01:25.05 | dylanm | And it's not working? |
| 01:25.16 | dylanm | Oh. |
| 01:25.22 | Nefarion | i suggest using the local frame= shit because it makes accessing the frame internally faster |
| 01:25.24 | dylanm | SLASH_ADDONNAME1 isn't going to cut it |
| 01:25.27 | RaydenUni | ooh callipoe |
| 01:25.37 | RaydenUni | calliope |
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| 01:25.45 | RaydenUni | now i'm going to analyze your stats |
| 01:25.51 | MoonWitch | lol of course .... the ADDONNAME1 lol |
| 01:26.00 | dylanm | You'd want SLASH_DASHBOARD1 and so on |
| 01:26.01 | MoonWitch | I thought I had a typo, so copied it again |
| 01:26.02 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 01:26.06 | Nefarion | each time you access DBFrame, it's a global (table) lookup, and also needs to be converted to "_G["DBFrame"]" by the Lua parser (I think), so accessing the local frame is much faster |
| 01:26.27 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53248 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 01:26.28 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:26.28 | CIA-7 | - Reverting change from rev 53223 as it apparently causes problems on EU servers |
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| 01:26.48 | MoonWitch | so I leave in local frame = new blah blah, but use frame to refer to it |
| 01:26.55 | Kemayo | MoonWitch: If it helps, here's a frame in pure lua which is initially hidden and shown by a slashcommand: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LodWhat/core.lua |
| 01:27.41 | MoonWitch | Kemayo, yes that does help ... thank you all of you :) |
| 01:27.45 | Nefarion | yes MoonWitch. that example includes that as well.. |
| 01:28.11 | Nefarion | for ease of access, you can place child elements in the frame table.. |
| 01:28.20 | Nefarion | at line 23 |
| 01:28.47 | MoonWitch | uhm ... |
| 01:28.49 | Nefarion | change it to frame.fontString = DBFrame:CreateFontString(nil,"ARTWORK","GameFontNormal"); |
| 01:29.04 | MoonWitch | same as calling arrays then :) |
| 01:29.12 | MoonWitch | finally something that makes sense |
| 01:29.21 | Nefarion | well, sorta |
| 01:29.46 | Nefarion | but don't confuse frames with tables. they're wrapped in tables for usability but aren't purely tables and aren't garbage-collected/deletable |
| 01:29.51 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53249 10LodWhat/core.lua: LodWhat: local updateList. |
| 01:30.01 | RaydenUni | so it looks like i'm doing what i should be doing as far as spell rotation |
| 01:30.01 | Zhinjio | love it when the instance servers go down in the middle of kara. joy |
| 01:30.04 | Nefarion | you can still store shit in the table, but don't go trying to delete it =X |
| 01:30.05 | RaydenUni | my % are mostly matching |
| 01:30.14 | RaydenUni | all i can see is i do less damage on all of my spells |
| 01:31.02 | Nefarion | MoonWitch, can I guess you've worked with other languages but not Lua? |
| 01:31.32 | MoonWitch | I have some oldern experience in Kylix (Object Pascal), PHP and a wee bit Java |
| 01:32.05 | Nefarion | you should skim through http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 01:32.28 | Nefarion | it'll help you understand how Lua handles things, and some nice little tricks |
| 01:32.32 | MoonWitch | I have this insane desire to be able to program, but my mind isn't making it easy. Eg. as long as I don't consciously try to understand arrays and multidimensional arrays, they make sense. I try to understand them, and it's confusing :P |
| 01:32.37 | MoonWitch | Nefarion, thanks I will :) |
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| 01:33.32 | Nefarion | Oh, and for a much lighter read that has some very helpful info in it, check out http://wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips as well |
| 01:33.48 | Nefarion | I found that extremely helpful myself |
| 01:34.49 | RaydenUni | what sort of DPS difference do you think adding seed of corruption to a spell rotation vs KZ mobs would make? |
| 01:35.11 | fitz__ | huge until they fix the SoC LoS bug |
| 01:37.20 | RaydenUni | trying to figure out why my warlock friend is doing 400dps |
| 01:37.23 | RaydenUni | just starting KZ |
| 01:37.30 | RaydenUni | he doesn't use SoC at all really |
| 01:37.37 | durcyn | link his armory |
| 01:38.08 | RaydenUni | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Morkite |
| 01:38.27 | durcyn | 28 hit rating |
| 01:38.31 | RaydenUni | http://timches.com/files/wowlogs/wws-20071024-2359/morkite.html |
| 01:38.32 | Ellipsis | 28? lol |
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| 01:38.42 | MoonWitch | local frame.fontString = DBframe:CreateFontString(nil,"ARTWORK","GameFontNormal"); errors at the . |
| 01:38.53 | durcyn | you have to TRY to have a hit rating as totally shit as 28 |
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| 01:39.07 | durcyn | his gems are beyond retarded |
| 01:39.13 | Nefarion | relink your code |
| 01:39.28 | durcyn | and he doesn't even have a meta in his hat |
| 01:39.37 | Nefarion | oh no no no |
| 01:39.39 | RaydenUni | my hit was around that the other day |
| 01:39.40 | Nefarion | remove local |
| 01:39.41 | harldephin | Jesus can walk on water, but Chuck Norris can walk on Jesus. |
| 01:39.41 | MoonWitch | http://ace.pastey.net/75810 |
| 01:39.47 | MoonWitch | oh |
| 01:39.50 | RaydenUni | i spent a couple hours getting some +hit and now i have over 90 |
| 01:39.54 | durcyn | tell him to switch to potent purple and veiled orange gems, then get a hit rating enchant on his gloves, RaydenUni |
| 01:40.00 | Nefarion | you aren't making a local referance, you're adding a reference to the already local "frame" |
| 01:40.01 | MoonWitch | doesn't it then conflict with other addons using frame? |
| 01:40.05 | Nefarion | adding a key* |
| 01:40.06 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 01:40.18 | Nefarion | no, assuming you used "local frame=" |
| 01:40.29 | Nefarion | if you didn't, change that to DBFrame.fontString |
| 01:40.34 | Nefarion | they point to the same thing anyway |
| 01:40.37 | durcyn | RaydenUni: scryer's bloodgem as well, with the CE ring |
| 01:40.45 | RaydenUni | CE ring? |
| 01:40.53 | durcyn | Ashyen's Gift |
| 01:41.17 | Nefarion | a local variable is only seen within your lua file, so it can't conflict, not unless you remove the "local" and make it "frame=" |
| 01:41.23 | fitz__ | is that gift ce exalted? |
| 01:41.27 | durcyn | yes |
| 01:41.40 | durcyn | RaydenUni: for an affliction warlock, hit rating is worth ~1.2 spell damage |
| 01:41.52 | MoonWitch | am getting the bugs... coming closer to the end of the file :) thanks!!! |
| 01:42.03 | Nefarion | up to 202 cap, for hit rating |
| 01:42.14 | RaydenUni | so get way more +hit, put some good gems in, use SoC more... |
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| 01:42.31 | Wobwork | I don't like the name Seed of Corruption |
| 01:42.33 | Nefarion | +hit>+dmg up to 202, then +dmg becomes better (because it caps at that point) |
| 01:42.36 | durcyn | SoC isn't going to make or break him |
| 01:42.38 | Wobwork | it's too hard to fit 'lol' in there |
| 01:43.09 | RaydenUni | i'm looking at http://wowwebstats.com/ju3hwb2szpvmc?a=5 and 25% of his dmg overall is from SoC |
| 01:43.14 | RaydenUni | my friend has 3% |
| 01:43.39 | durcyn | it's an aoe, remember |
| 01:43.43 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 01:43.48 | MoonWitch | OMG Nefarion and dylanm I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It works... |
| 01:43.53 | Nefarion | =D |
| 01:43.56 | RaydenUni | vs trash that guy has something like 36% dmg from SoC |
| 01:44.15 | durcyn | what's his spell rotation now? |
| 01:44.27 | harldephin | Chuck Norris was once in a knife fight, and the knife lost. |
| 01:44.39 | Nefarion | you should skim through at least the coidn tips page when you get a chance. it's really helpful, and will help you optimize your code a lot. |
| 01:44.41 | RaydenUni | http://timches.com/files/wowlogs/wws-20071024-2359/morkite.html |
| 01:44.48 | Nefarion | coding* |
| 01:44.56 | durcyn | not total damage, rotation |
| 01:45.01 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 01:45.03 | MoonWitch | I am going to get the core in place first, and then work on optimization.. but first read that page |
| 01:45.05 | RaydenUni | that has his spell % usages |
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| 01:45.48 | Nefarion | good luck man. |
| 01:46.07 | Nefarion | writing an addon from scratch, especially being new to Lua can be a long and annoying process.. |
| 01:46.12 | Nefarion | =) |
| 01:46.22 | abyx | is it possible to add/edit/remove elements of an array of variables with AceDB? |
| 01:46.22 | MoonWitch | thanks, but now I got the basic steps, and have a few more understanding concepts, it'll be ok :) |
| 01:46.22 | CIA-7 | 03jncl * r53250 10Skinner/AddonSkins/MTLove.lua: Skinner: BugFix MTLove skin |
| 01:46.31 | RaydenUni | he's just switched to affliction so i do'nt think he really knows what to do with it yet |
| 01:47.12 | durcyn | tell him to try curse, ua, corr, immo, bolt bolt bolt bolt repeat |
| 01:47.14 | MoonWitch | yeah, it can be. You should have seen me when I was working on my first Flash concept, xml driven. Was a bit of a pda looking thing, with working buttons to retrieve info based on the stored info from the xml |
| 01:47.18 | Nefarion | For eventual optimization: avoiding using globals is good. Instead make a core addon object, "myAddon = {}", and place all your variables (including functions: function myAddon.func() end) in there. |
| 01:48.03 | Kemayo | abyx: AceDB just stores standard lua tables. You can do anything the standard library allows with them. |
| 01:48.09 | MoonWitch | makes sense, it'll help avoid conflict |
| 01:48.27 | RaydenUni | i think that's mostly what he does but i told him |
| 01:48.31 | Nefarion | also, when you list functions with a colon, you get a hidden "self" which points to its parent table: local myAddon={}; function myAddon:SomeFunc() self.someKey -- self here is the same as myAddon, but local end |
| 01:48.34 | RaydenUni | those are his top 5 spells |
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| 01:48.54 | durcyn | the rotation is important though |
| 01:49.16 | RaydenUni | do you have to refresh all of those around the same time? |
| 01:49.18 | Nefarion | but they must then be called with a colon, or given self: myAddon:CallSomeFunc(...) or myAddon.CallSomeFun(myAddon,...) -- self is the first arg but hidden |
| 01:49.35 | RaydenUni | i need to change my bar to reflect casting order |
| 01:49.41 | durcyn | ua corr immo should all fall off together |
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| 01:49.49 | Nefarion | read the coding tips page, it should be on there, and a bit more well written and straight forward =X |
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| 01:50.43 | Nefarion | MoonWitch: All that confusing shit I was just describing, it's at the top of the coding tips page. =) |
| 01:50.55 | MoonWitch | yeah am reading it right now :) |
| 01:51.02 | RaydenUni | thanks durcyn |
| 01:51.27 | RaydenUni | hopefully it helps him |
| 01:51.46 | RaydenUni | at some point i'll ask you guys to really critique what i have |
| 01:52.02 | RaydenUni | but after looking at these WWS logs my % are pretty close to what other people are doing |
| 01:52.24 | RaydenUni | if anything i'm using MB and SWD more |
| 01:52.53 | harldephin | Chuck Norris can divide by zero. |
| 01:53.04 | Nefarion | ~1/0 |
| 01:53.04 | purl | i guess 1/0 is undefined |
| 01:53.09 | Nefarion | impossible! |
| 01:53.37 | abyx | anyone hear about the math teacher that defined 1/0 as "nullility" or some bs like that? |
| 01:53.37 | abyx | lol |
| 01:55.48 | Nefarion | Oh, I have a question regarding Lua myself. I've heard that blank tables cost 36 bytes, 32 bytes, and 40 bytes by 3 different sources. Which is true? |
| 01:58.29 | harldephin | woot? |
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| 02:00.04 | harldephin | just out of nothing, i'd say it's 32 bytes |
| 02:00.23 | harldephin | or chuck norris |
| 02:00.35 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53251 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 02:00.35 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:00.35 | CIA-7 | - Fixed the scroll bar.. FauxScrollFrameTemplate ~= UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate (i just learned that myself) |
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| 02:05.55 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53252 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua: |
| 02:05.55 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 02:05.55 | CIA-7 | - Cleanup a bit |
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| 02:09.46 | chronx | is it possible to add/edit/remove elements of an array of variables with AceDB? |
| 02:10.21 | Wobwork | well since AceDB just uses normal tables, I'd say: Absolutely! |
| 02:10.47 | Wobwork | but if you're trying to use AceDB to do the removing... you're going at it the wrong way |
| 02:11.16 | nymbia | acedb's main advantage is profile management, if you just want to mess with tables, you'll pretty much always be doing it the same way. |
| 02:11.43 | harldephin | Chuck Norris' house has no doors, only walls that he walks through. |
| 02:11.52 | chronx | i want to store information about multiple people .. so i'm not sure how to do it |
| 02:12.05 | chronx | something like ct_playernotes |
| 02:12.43 | Nefarion | table[playerName] = data |
| 02:12.46 | Nefarion | .... |
| 02:13.10 | chronx | i'm new to wowace and pretty much lua in general |
| 02:13.35 | Nefarion | table[playerName] = nil -- to erase |
| 02:13.49 | Nefarion | chronx, do you have any conding experience at all? |
| 02:13.53 | chronx | yes |
| 02:13.57 | chronx | c/c++ |
| 02:14.19 | Wobwork | chronx: head to http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 02:14.20 | Nefarion | http://www.lua.org/pil/ is your friend =) |
| 02:14.23 | Nefarion | damnit |
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| 02:14.25 | Nefarion | lol |
| 02:14.32 | Wobwork | fingars liek ligtheingning |
| 02:14.33 | chronx | thanks Wobwork! |
| 02:14.47 | Wobwork | =) |
| 02:14.48 | MoonWitch | might I just say that the don't use globals is crappy to get going? |
| 02:15.06 | Wobwork | Could you repeat that? |
| 02:15.08 | Nefarion | what? |
| 02:15.10 | Wobwork | (in English?) |
| 02:15.17 | Nefarion | yeah that was confusing |
| 02:15.28 | fitz__ | I think I'm hearing that it's hard to go from slapping globals all over the place to using locals |
| 02:15.35 | Nefarion | you mean converting your addon to use a centralized table is confusing? |
| 02:15.45 | MoonWitch | pretty much yes |
| 02:15.47 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 02:15.57 | fitz__ | best way to do it |
| 02:15.59 | nymbia | clearly no variable should be local |
| 02:15.59 | Nefarion | remember that internal data can simple be stored as local, which works for functions as well |
| 02:16.02 | fitz__ | is to put aside your code for six months |
| 02:16.03 | Wobwork | A tidy namespace is a good namespace =) |
| 02:16.04 | Nefarion | local function blah() end |
| 02:16.05 | fitz__ | then come back to it |
| 02:16.13 | fitz__ | and try to work out what the FUCK you were doing six months ago |
| 02:16.15 | fitz__ | with shit all over the place |
| 02:16.16 | nymbia | why would they have globals if you weren't supposed to use them for everything? |
| 02:16.23 | Wobwork | fitz__: that leads to massive rewrites =P |
| 02:16.38 | fitz__ | wobwork, sooner or later you start writing maintainable code |
| 02:16.47 | Nefarion | MoonWitch: only bother using globals for things you want to be accessed outside of your addon (or things other people may want to access externally) |
| 02:16.50 | Wobwork | nymbia: you could say the same about all those WMD hidden everywhere =P |
| 02:17.07 | MoonWitch | if I dare use eg. dsb = {} then I should technically (assuming I do get it) use dsb.frame.fontString:SetText |
| 02:17.13 | MoonWitch | which seems ... wrong |
| 02:17.14 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 02:17.21 | Nefarion | not really |
| 02:17.25 | Wobwork | newp |
| 02:17.29 | fitz__ | Nefarion, MyAddon.snuhblyfoo is a better way to let something external access some data, IMO |
| 02:17.37 | Wobwork | local myvar = dsb.my.long.variable |
| 02:17.39 | Nefarion | that's what i meant fitz |
| 02:18.38 | Wobwork | in fact, if you refactor the majority of your deep table accessors to a local reference, you'll speed up your program |
| 02:19.03 | Nefarion | mhmm |
| 02:19.14 | MoonWitch | MyAddon:DoSomething() as example ... the : always errors... I am required to use MyAddon_DoSomething() |
| 02:19.14 | Wobwork | since it'll just be a single local reference rather than a chained table reference |
| 02:19.30 | Nefarion | MoonWitch, can you post your code |
| 02:19.34 | Wobwork | please |
| 02:19.44 | Wobwork | Cause you are most definitely -not- required to do so |
| 02:19.46 | MoonWitch | well what I have is the working one :P |
| 02:19.50 | Nefarion | remember that MyAddon:DoSomething() places a key in the table "MyAddon", "DoSomething" |
| 02:20.08 | Nefarion | it looks like MyAddon = {DoSomething = function(self) end} |
| 02:20.14 | Wobwork | MyAddon has to exist before you can use MyAddon:DoSomething |
| 02:20.17 | Nefarion | the colon adds the hidden self |
| 02:20.29 | MoonWitch | http://ace.pastey.net/75811 |
| 02:21.10 | MoonWitch | that is the working version |
| 02:21.11 | JoshBorke | MoonWitch: you do Dashboard.RegisterEvent but you never define DashBoard |
| 02:21.50 | MoonWitch | I can just delete the onInit... part |
| 02:21.51 | Nefarion | Is that all the code? Because you haven't defined when to call the OnInitialize function, or the RegisterEvent function. |
| 02:22.18 | MoonWitch | it was holding the DBPlayer etc |
| 02:22.30 | CIA-7 | 03nogudnik * r53253 10Skillet/ (UI/MainFrame.lua description.txt): |
| 02:22.30 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 02:22.31 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.31 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.07 | Wobwork | http://ace.pastey.net/75813 |
| 02:24.10 | Wobwork | although, OnInitialize will never be called |
| 02:24.21 | RaydenUni | so i just turned on the combat logger, did some stuff, turned it off |
| 02:24.26 | RaydenUni | but the txt file didn't update... |
| 02:24.28 | RaydenUni | what gives? |
| 02:24.33 | Wobwork | reloadui? |
| 02:24.33 | Arrowmaster | logout |
| 02:24.39 | MoonWitch | it was just a placeholder lol |
| 02:24.44 | RaydenUni | what does that have to do with any of it? |
| 02:24.53 | Wobwork | Pancakes |
| 02:24.59 | Nefarion | MoonWitch, do you have a system for events setup yet? |
| 02:25.06 | MoonWitch | heck no |
| 02:25.06 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 02:25.14 | Nefarion | use something like this |
| 02:25.17 | MoonWitch | I have what I've shown, and the idea :P |
| 02:25.20 | Nefarion | assuming you're going to use MyAddon = {} |
| 02:25.36 | *** part/#wowace Wobwork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:25.52 | MoonWitch | I need to get a timer thing going though, which might cause me to shoot myself based on this little thing |
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| 02:26.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobwork] by ChanServ |
| 02:27.35 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 02:27.42 | RaydenUni | does combatlog not get written till you log out? |
| 02:27.55 | Nefarion | MoonWitch, here's a nice simple event handling system. It assumes you have MyAddon={}, and are placing events in it, like this: function MyAddon:EVENT_NAME() end |
| 02:27.57 | Nefarion | http://ace.pastey.net/75814 |
| 02:28.12 | Ellipsis | RaydenUni, nothing gets written til you log out |
| 02:28.32 | RaydenUni | will reloading the UI do ti? |
| 02:28.35 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 02:29.06 | Nefarion | lua> print(harldephin==nil and "haha harldephin is worthless") |
| 02:29.06 | cladbot | Nefarion: haha harldephin is worthless |
| 02:29.12 | Nefarion | =) |
| 02:29.52 | Ellipsis | I don't like Magtheridon |
| 02:36.57 | kadrahil | wtb java help :( |
| 02:37.09 | kadrahil | http://ace.pastey.net/75815 |
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| 02:38.41 | nogudnik | kadrahil: You created a two dimensional array on line 29, but that does not populate the array with objects. |
| 02:38.49 | nogudnik | sorry, line 20 |
| 02:39.07 | RaydenUni | the crap |
| 02:39.14 | RaydenUni | the dps meter is back up on the top of the screen agian! |
| 02:39.17 | RaydenUni | even afteri moved it! |
| 02:39.27 | kadrahil | nogudnik: thought that's what that line did.. it's been forever since i coded anything in java |
| 02:39.47 | kadrahil | nogudnik: thanks |
| 02:39.52 | nogudnik | cheers |
| 02:40.37 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53254 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua: |
| 02:40.37 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 02:40.37 | CIA-7 | - add delTable |
| 02:45.01 | Nefarion | people are still complaining that 'locks are op? |
| 02:45.10 | kadrahil | Nefarion: bandwagon |
| 02:45.47 | Nefarion | i come to wonder: will they want my underwater breathing nerfed next? "zomg he kilt me n dint drown nerf" |
| 02:47.20 | Nefarion | anyone know if blue has event *hinted* at how far along WotLK is? and any time frame for release? |
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| 02:50.16 | starlon | I'm thinking we'll see beta WotLK shortly after 2.4 |
| 02:50.35 | Nefarion | that soon? |
| 02:50.41 | starlon | Yeah |
| 02:50.57 | Codexius | this christams u think? |
| 02:51.04 | Codexius | and any release notes on 2.4 yet? |
| 02:51.09 | Nefarion | "we're about to see a death knight spree" lawl |
| 02:51.20 | Nefarion | dude 2.3 just came out >> |
| 02:51.31 | Nefarion | the notes i mean |
| 02:53.32 | RaydenUni | http://raydenuni.com/wow/logs/wws-20071025-2213/raydenuni.html <-- spriest full mana to 0 mana vs Dr. Boom. anyone feel like commenting |
| 02:53.37 | RaydenUni | i'm trying to figure out areas to improve |
| 02:54.47 | Wobwork | don't forget warlock buffs/shammy buffs/other synergies in raiding |
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| 03:00.53 | kenlyric | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2512090701&sid=1 |
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| 03:01.25 | Nefarion | lawl $10 to change my name |
| 03:01.47 | Nefarion | "does blizzard really need more money" |
| 03:01.47 | harldephin | Nefarion: I am rubber, you are glue. |
| 03:02.00 | Nefarion | harldephin: kinky |
| 03:02.19 | harldephin | hrhr |
| 03:02.42 | kenlyric | Nefarion: that's just a "so you can't do it after every instance run ninja" thing. |
| 03:03.02 | Nefarion | cooldowns ftw |
| 03:03.05 | kenlyric | if they wanted to make money, they'd charge $25, of course |
| 03:03.13 | Nefarion | my microwave dinner hasa cooldown of 2 min |
| 03:05.26 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53255 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 03:05.26 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:05.26 | CIA-7 | - Fixed display of Scan button for skillet users.. not sure why it wont show in default tradeskill window though, ill leave that for you ackis |
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| 03:13.44 | Nocts | So who wants to donate to my food fund :P |
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| 03:33.11 | RaydenUni | so |
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| 03:33.20 | RaydenUni | http://wowhead.com/?quest=10205 |
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| 03:33.25 | RaydenUni | the first guy won't give me that quest |
| 03:33.28 | RaydenUni | is there a prereq? |
| 03:33.39 | RaydenUni | i hadn't visited the area that the 2nd one ends at |
| 03:33.58 | RaydenUni | oh i have to do heap of ethereals |
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| 03:38.44 | Diao | hmm |
| 03:38.47 | Diao | i noticed |
| 03:39.06 | Diao | "recovery" in autobar seems to be mana recovery rather than health |
| 03:39.06 | Diao | ? |
| 03:40.23 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r654 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.toc Alliance/62_63_Zangarmarsh.lua): TourGuide - Ally Zangarmarsh, thanks srigharts |
| 03:40.42 | Funkeh` | HORDe |
| 03:40.46 | Funkeh` | ffs bitch! |
| 03:40.54 | Funkeh` | level it already Tekkub ! |
| 03:41.21 | Nocts | Tourguide? |
| 03:41.26 | Nocts | What's that? |
| 03:41.40 | Fisker- | Are you scamming a lot? |
| 03:41.49 | Fisker- | Don't have the money and time to wait for server transfers? |
| 03:41.59 | Fisker- | Need instant namechange to scam some more? |
| 03:42.05 | Fisker- | Then you're in luck! |
| 03:42.06 | Funkeh` | shut up |
| 03:42.22 | Fisker- | Introducing the new name-change service for less moneys and moar scamming :O |
| 03:42.35 | JoshBork1 | 1k shadow damage =D |
| 03:42.45 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 03:50.15 | CIA-7 | 03jwensley2 * r53256 10MageAnnounce/MageAnnounce.lua: |
| 03:50.15 | CIA-7 | MageAnnounce: |
| 03:50.15 | CIA-7 | - replaced some code I accidentally deleted |
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| 03:51.27 | kebinusan | You'll know it gets bad when you can pay money for additional talent points |
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| 03:53.35 | Tekkub | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/screenshot.xml?s=33 |
| 03:53.36 | Tekkub | wow |
| 03:53.45 | Tekkub | such advances in bridge models |
| 03:53.54 | Tekkub | these ain't you shitty STV bridges |
| 03:54.36 | durcyn | ooh, i'm downloading the hi res version now! |
| 03:54.48 | Codexius | im debating updating my old Kreacher addon to work with TBC |
| 03:54.50 | Funkeh` | yeah Tekkub I noticed the graphics look a tton better from some of their screenshots |
| 03:55.41 | Tekkub | I was honestly hoping Northrend WOULD be "all snow"... Winterspring and Dun More Oh! are my favorite zones |
| 03:55.44 | Nefasti | texture looks better |
| 03:55.48 | Tekkub | and Alterac Mtns |
| 03:56.20 | Nefasti | I hope they upgrading the engine a bit and including highres textures |
| 03:56.36 | Fisker- | downloading your mother now |
| 03:56.41 | Nefasti | Dunno if anybody noticed but last patch added bloom effect to the sun at old azeroth |
| 03:56.51 | Tekkub | dot dot dot |
| 03:57.02 | JoshBork1 | night all |
| 03:57.12 | Fisker- | bloom effects have been there for like ages |
| 03:57.16 | Fisker- | they broke it in some patch though |
| 03:57.19 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/screenshot.xml?s=7 is the best example |
| 03:58.32 | Tekkub | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=224 <--- bloom |
| 03:59.15 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:59.18 | Wobwork | MORE BLOOM |
| 03:59.30 | Wobwork | SHAZAM! |
| 03:59.44 | kebinusan | lol |
| 04:00.01 | Funkeh` | BLOOOOOM |
| 04:03.42 | Aens|Superiority | haha, oh man |
| 04:03.51 | Aens|Superiority | bigwig's anti spam doesn't work if you are drunk. |
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| 04:07.49 | Funkeh` | hehe |
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| 04:08.09 | Funkeh` | Its silly they add ..hic! to the end of raid warning though |
| 04:08.31 | Aens|Superiority | they dropped a pony keg to mark where the tanks stand |
| 04:08.38 | Aens|Superiority | guess what I was doing during the boss fight explaination! |
| 04:08.56 | Funkeh` | drinking it? |
| 04:09.04 | Tekkub | there need to be more items like the keg for markering |
| 04:09.07 | Aens|Superiority | emptied it out all alone :D |
| 04:09.08 | Tekkub | fuck the flares |
| 04:09.37 | Tekkub | tanks on the keg, healers on the picnic baskte, DPS on the campfire |
| 04:09.49 | Funkeh` | IMO need to be allowed raid icons for point son the minimap |
| 04:09.52 | Funkeh` | the ebst way ;p |
| 04:10.03 | Fisker- | you know what's silly? |
| 04:10.06 | Tekkub | or raid marker items that show up on the map too |
| 04:10.09 | Aens|Superiority | or set raid icons by ground target. |
| 04:10.12 | Fisker- | That they felt inclined to mention what you got drunk by |
| 04:10.38 | Funkeh` | nah, if you could set it on the ground that would gives addons too much power probably ;p |
| 04:10.39 | Tekkub | have a tonk, a.. uh.. hrm... big glowing bandaid and a fireball |
| 04:11.06 | Tekkub | nah, make em non-targettable, addons have to power |
| 04:11.09 | Tekkub | nor macros |
| 04:11.22 | Funkeh` | I never said it would be bad ;p |
| 04:11.27 | Tekkub | they'd be like nodes, mouseover and map marker, that's all |
| 04:11.29 | Aens|Superiority | Funkeh`: probably, but it'd make raid directions much easier. On phase 2, run to the skull on the ground! |
| 04:11.53 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 04:12.03 | Tekkub | hell even just numbered markers would work, no confusing with the target icon |
| 04:12.18 | Tekkub | tanks at 1, heals 2, collapse to 3 |
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| 04:15.38 | MoonWitch | http://www.break.com/worldofwarcraft/mom-tells-kid-no-more-warcraft2.html worth the listen |
| 04:16.48 | Funkeh` | heard it before |
| 04:16.56 | Funkeh` | was funny as fuck, cba listening again though ;p |
| 04:17.05 | Codexius | whats cba? :/ |
| 04:17.38 | MoonWitch | lol yeah Funkeh` I've heard it sooo often |
| 04:17.43 | Funkeh` | could buy a lexus |
| 04:18.08 | Funkeh` | (can't be assed) |
| 04:18.22 | kenlyric | it's some sort of british thing. |
| 04:18.51 | Kemayo | Maybe. I mean, I'm british and I don't know what it means. |
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| 04:19.33 | RaydenUni | the birds in sethekk randomly do a charge vs you? |
| 04:19.47 | RaydenUni | or randomly charge 2nd on threat list? |
| 04:22.29 | *** part/#wowace nogudnik (n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com) |
| 04:23.32 | Ackis | is anyone here good with frame code, and could help me with something quickly? (specifically scroll bars) |
| 04:25.32 | Kemayo | ~ask |
| 04:25.33 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 04:25.48 | Kemayo | Huh, that's gotten bigger. |
| 04:26.27 | Wobwork | heheh "Don't ask if you can ask a question first" |
| 04:26.37 | Wobwork | I read that as "Don't ask, if you can ask a question first" |
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| 04:29.01 | Ackis | this is my scrollframe code, http://ace.pastey.net/75818 the problem is, nothing scrolls anymore... I did a rewrite of it and i'm not sure what's going wrong with it |
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| 04:29.59 | xyu` | I need to make some money, wha'ts a good /random gambling game i can do w/ my raid mates between pulls :D |
| 04:29.59 | RaydenUni | so i'm spiking at 800dps |
| 04:30.06 | RaydenUni | but averaging around 350 |
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| 04:33.02 | Xinhuan | ackis |
| 04:33.02 | xyu` | there was a fun one that involved /rand 1-3 but i forget how it goes |
| 04:33.37 | Xinhuan | because, by not inheritting from "UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate", you lost the defined functions |
| 04:33.44 | Kemayo | Ackis: I think it's because you're not inhereiting the UIPanelScro... |
| 04:33.52 | Kemayo | Xinhuan beat me to it. |
| 04:33.55 | Xinhuan | for "OnScrollRangeChanged" "OnVerticalScroll" and |
| 04:34.01 | Xinhuan | "OnMouseWheel" |
| 04:34.15 | Xinhuan | refer to Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.xml |
| 04:35.18 | Xinhuan | hint: there is no reason to reinvent the wheel when you can just inherit from a Blizzard template. |
| 04:35.34 | Xinhuan | sure, it pollutes the globals a bit with some globals, but who the hell cares |
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| 04:41.36 | Ackis | hmmm i add the "UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate" and it adds another slider bar in the middle lol |
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| 04:42.24 | Xinhuan | yeah ackis |
| 04:42.30 | Xinhuan | did you even see what the template does? |
| 04:43.16 | Xinhuan | if you decided not to use it, you'll have to create your whole set of scrollbars and update calculation functions |
| 04:43.36 | Xinhuan | which probably more than 150 lines of code |
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| 04:44.05 | Ackis | didn't have a chance yet, doing essence fights, just wanted to see what would happen when i did the inheritance |
| 04:50.03 | Aens|Superiority | what... |
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| 04:50.17 | Aens|Superiority | the leather healing shoulders from illidari council is worse than the shoulders from vashj... |
| 04:50.40 | RaydenUni | i'll take them |
| 04:53.49 | Aens|Superiority | blizz will probably buff them |
| 05:01.09 | xyu` | there was a fun /rand 1-3 gambling game we used to do waiting for nefarion to respawn |
| 05:01.11 | xyu` | i wish i could remmeber it |
| 05:04.50 | RaydenUni | 330dps in sethekk... |
| 05:04.54 | RaydenUni | this feels very poor |
| 05:06.47 | RaydenUni | i guess my dots don't hve time to run their course |
| 05:07.12 | kebinusan | We used to do /random 100 gambing where you had to random betwen 1 and the number you rolled till you got to 1 first person to 1 lost |
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| 05:08.10 | Xelopheris | WTS CCNP1 midterm, complete with blank spaces for answers, PST |
| 05:08.27 | kebinusan | this is #ciscowarez |
| 05:09.05 | Xelopheris | nah, I'm just venting because I definitely haven't been paying attention in class |
| 05:09.18 | kebinusan | heh |
| 05:09.31 | Xelopheris | Having a laptop and college wireless capable of running wow will do that |
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| 05:23.26 | RaydenUni | if i don't work too hard i can doo 300dps with my spriest |
| 05:23.32 | RaydenUni | if i work really hard i can get 400 |
| 05:24.14 | RaydenUni | if i go full out my max is about 530 |
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| 05:24.48 | kenlyric | the strata of icons on the cart map needs to be lower than the player dot. |
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| 05:50.00 | aestil | ~seen tuller |
| 05:50.02 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 21m 2s ago, saying: 'well, take a look at the target of target frame code :)'. |
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| 05:56.04 | aestil | ckknight, thought maybe you died. |
| 05:56.16 | ckknight | I have never left you, child |
| 05:56.34 | Bejitt | such a benevolent op |
| 05:56.35 | aestil | i'm like 8 years older than you. |
| 05:58.28 | Tekkub | anyone got a fix for PlayMusic() ? |
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| 06:05.12 | aestil | can anyone explain what this error means? http://ace.pastey.net/75823 |
| 06:05.22 | Fisker- | BRB |
| 06:05.28 | Fisker- | i must get teh witchar too work |
| 06:06.07 | Wobwork | aestil: You're trying to unregister a nonregistered event? |
| 06:09.42 | aestil | Wobwork: i didn't do anything. i have Avion set to show an animation for a trinket cooldown, and it gives that error. |
| 06:10.08 | Wobwork | bug in avoin then |
| 06:10.20 | aestil | ~kill sirow |
| 06:10.20 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized pseudoneutron gun at sirow |
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| 06:15.26 | Xinhuan | !api unitrace |
| 06:15.34 | Xinhuan | ~api UnitRace |
| 06:15.35 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitRace |
| 06:18.34 | Ackis | hmmm |
| 06:18.37 | Ackis | ~kill purl |
| 06:18.37 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse anti-graviton gun at purl |
| 06:18.52 | Ackis | tehehehehehehe |
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| 06:39.18 | CIA-7 | 03next96 * r53257 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 06:39.18 | CIA-7 | Recount: |
| 06:39.18 | CIA-7 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 06:45.43 | kebinusan | ~portal |
| 06:45.44 | purl | portal is probably http://zaurus.loveslinux.com/ or http://www.zauruszone.com/ |
| 06:45.50 | kebinusan | oh fail |
| 06:45.56 | kebinusan | ~fail |
| 06:45.57 | purl | ACTION gives kebinusan the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 06:46.09 | kebinusan | ~cake |
| 06:46.10 | purl | the cake is a lie! |
| 06:46.47 | kebinusan | bleh I cant believe how insane warriors are in 2v2 |
| 06:53.14 | Pkekyo | [warrior perspective] bleh I cant believe how insane shadowpriests and lollocks are in 2v2 |
| 06:55.39 | duaiwe | [sane perspective] bleh I cant believe how much you people whine about it. |
| 06:56.29 | *** join/#wowace Deviad (n=spotted@81-208-83-249.fastres.net) |
| 06:56.32 | Deviad | Hello |
| 06:56.57 | Deviad | Can anyone pls try to help me with Pitbull? |
| 06:57.08 | Orionshock | sure |
| 06:57.30 | Pkekyo | lol NightHawkTheSane |
| 06:57.46 | Deviad | I have ticked disable on the player frame and now I don't know how to enable it again |
| 06:57.49 | Pkekyo | Deviad: sure, just help us help you help us help you help us help you |
| 06:58.03 | Pkekyo | tick disable again? |
| 06:58.05 | Deviad | I cannot see it listed anymore |
| 06:58.12 | Pkekyo | oh |
| 06:58.13 | Deviad | Player is not in the list |
| 06:58.20 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.24 | Pkekyo | it's listed as inactive modules or so, iirc |
| 06:58.26 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.29 | Orionshock | Player |
| 06:58.35 | Deviad | Let me see |
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| 06:59.17 | Pkekyo | this is a glorious day :) for the first time for about half a year my warrior won't be prot :> |
| 06:59.36 | Fisker- | mansex |
| 06:59.42 | Deviad | thx |
| 06:59.45 | Deviad | works |
| 06:59.48 | Pkekyo | nothanks, Fisker-, I'm driving |
| 07:00.00 | Pkekyo | ~seen ckknight_ |
| 07:00.02 | purl | ckknight_ is currently on #wowi-lounge (39m 11s) #wowace (39m 11s), last said: 'backbone87, that's fine.'. |
| 07:00.15 | Deviad | I found a bug with eqcompare. When you click on a link and next you click on the cross in the window |
| 07:00.23 | Deviad | the title disappears but the body remains |
| 07:00.25 | theoddone33 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhebRxRobZZxbe0MuRsbs thinking about this rogue build for 2.3 pvp |
| 07:00.26 | Fisker- | awright Pkekyo |
| 07:00.51 | Deviad | If I use the "mouse over" method indeed I don't get this issue |
| 07:00.55 | Pkekyo | anyone else got the "BREAKING NEWS" frame still up on the logon screen, but no news? |
| 07:01.03 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:01.25 | Pkekyo | damnit, I got so confused by that, I've forgotten my account password >.< |
| 07:02.19 | Wobwork | theoddone33: is quick recovery worth it? |
| 07:02.38 | theoddone33 | I believe so |
| 07:02.40 | Wobwork | theoddone33: I'm considering switching to hemo in 2.3 |
| 07:02.42 | theoddone33 | it's extremely nice |
| 07:02.47 | Wobwork | but I can't bear to lose the combat tree |
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| 07:03.01 | Wobwork | I've got dragonmaw all ready =) |
| 07:03.06 | theoddone33 | the 80% energy return on dodged finishers is gold |
| 07:03.21 | theoddone33 | and the heal is just bonus |
| 07:03.34 | Wobwork | ah =) |
| 07:03.38 | theoddone33 | I'm thinking I should take the two floating points out of ass and drop them into deadliness though |
| 07:03.48 | Wobwork | I've been combat 41'd fo so long I forgot that finishers could miss =) |
| 07:03.57 | theoddone33 | well it's a pvp build |
| 07:04.10 | theoddone33 | there's a lot of dodge/parry |
| 07:04.14 | Wobwork | aye |
| 07:04.27 | theoddone33 | and being able to do it again right away is nice |
| 07:04.28 | Wobwork | and in pve if you get a parry, you're doing it wrong =) |
| 07:04.34 | theoddone33 | heh, yeah |
| 07:04.37 | ckknight_ | hey Pkekyo |
| 07:04.52 | theoddone33 | ass isn't really a pve tree beyond 20 points |
| 07:05.24 | Wobwork | yeah |
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| 07:05.43 | theoddone33 | and sub isn't really... at all |
| 07:05.49 | theoddone33 | except for opportunity I guess |
| 07:05.49 | Fisker- | soon i'll blow up the earth |
| 07:05.58 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, sub isn't that bad |
| 07:06.01 | Wobwork | I do like setup |
| 07:06.02 | Wobwork | though |
| 07:06.09 | theoddone33 | are you dodging much? |
| 07:06.20 | Wobwork | I won a fistfight with setup |
| 07:06.28 | Wobwork | setup and s'n'd =) |
| 07:06.37 | theoddone33 | hah |
| 07:06.39 | theoddone33 | that's hilarious |
| 07:06.45 | NightHawkTheSane | serrated blades can make sub reasonably competetive. |
| 07:06.59 | Wobwork | cheat death will be so op |
| 07:07.07 | theoddone33 | es |
| 07:07.08 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 07:07.16 | Wobwork | it will be wonderful =) |
| 07:07.17 | theoddone33 | it's the main reason I'm thinking of speccing sub |
| 07:07.22 | theoddone33 | even though I do NOT have a hemo gearset |
| 07:07.30 | Wobwork | Dragonmaw ftw |
| 07:07.38 | Pkekyo | ckknight: g'morning :) |
| 07:07.42 | theoddone33 | got a little bit of time to get one I guess |
| 07:08.32 | theoddone33 | I'm just sad I have to skip the +agi thing to get fleet footed |
| 07:08.36 | theoddone33 | and QR |
| 07:08.43 | theoddone33 | since that will nerf my hemo |
| 07:09.08 | Pkekyo | [5/5 Deflection] vs [3/3 Imp.HS + 2/5 Deflection]? (going for arenas) |
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| 07:09.26 | ckknight | Pkekyo, what's up? |
| 07:09.35 | Wobwork | +agi? |
| 07:09.46 | theoddone33 | sinister calling, +15% of your agility |
| 07:09.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: i'd say 5/5 deflection, but i really no nothing about arenas/pvp |
| 07:09.55 | Pkekyo | ckknight: nothing, just wondered if you were still hanging around :) |
| 07:10.06 | NightHawkTheSane | s/no/know/ |
| 07:10.07 | NightHawkTheSane | blah |
| 07:10.15 | Wobwork | oh yeah |
| 07:10.23 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: reason I'm asking, is I've been meeting alot of casters lately...parry doesn't really do all that much against them :> |
| 07:10.40 | Wobwork | I might use a modified one of your selection for a pve build theoddone33 |
| 07:11.01 | Pkekyo | lol, g'nite NightHawk |
| 07:11.04 | Wobwork | although AR is nice |
| 07:11.08 | Wobwork | and BF |
| 07:11.22 | ckknight | Pkekyo, I have never left you, child |
| 07:11.37 | Wobwork | Especially BF with a topheavy weapon |
| 07:11.40 | Deviad | How do I change the size of a frame in pitbull? |
| 07:11.49 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 07:11.52 | Deviad | Let's say I want a frame as big as 300x100 |
| 07:11.56 | theoddone33 | 3% agility must be better than 2% ap |
| 07:11.58 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:12.17 | Deviad | How do I do that? If I resize a bar, I am not resizing the frame but just the bar inside a fixed size frame |
| 07:12.22 | theoddone33 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhgbRxMobZZxbe0MuRshso with the floating ass points tweaked |
| 07:12.23 | Deviad | How do I work around this issue? |
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| 07:12.38 | cryogen | prat broken for anyone else? |
| 07:13.35 | Deviad | Done, the option was put where I never expected it to be |
| 07:13.35 | Deviad | :P |
| 07:13.49 | theoddone33 | I hate putting points in master of subtlety :( |
| 07:13.53 | Wobwork | theoddone33: looks good |
| 07:13.58 | Wobwork | I agree |
| 07:14.04 | Wobwork | we need more non-dagger talents in subt |
| 07:14.07 | theoddone33 | two worthless tier 1 talents ftw |
| 07:14.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: tbh, for a pve/raid sub build, this seems fairly decent... http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboZ0eV0bVzLZircoMuRo |
| 07:14.25 | aestil | ckknight: has a bot saying that now. |
| 07:14.26 | Pkekyo | ckknight: lol....by the way, is dewdrop still part of fubar/pitbull etc despite the implementation of rockconfig? |
| 07:14.43 | Wobwork | NightHawkTheSane: eee. no AR =\ |
| 07:15.00 | theoddone33 | hm that does seem decent |
| 07:15.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: yeah, it's a -subtlty- build. :P |
| 07:15.06 | Pkekyo | AR? meh, I miss the good old arcanite reaper days :< |
| 07:15.10 | theoddone33 | sword spec? hm I guess those are floating |
| 07:15.10 | Wobwork | with the 2.3 changes I might drop mace spec |
| 07:15.37 | theoddone33 | heightened senses is a floating point there |
| 07:15.41 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: sword spec is solid dps, but i havn't done the math, lethality or deadliness might be comparable, and obviously relativly equal to other weapon specs |
| 07:15.43 | theoddone33 | I'd put it into combat |
| 07:16.02 | theoddone33 | maybe even prep, but I could see wanting another blade flurry |
| 07:16.29 | Wobwork | I <3 mace spec |
| 07:16.37 | theoddone33 | is weapon skill still worthless? |
| 07:16.39 | Wobwork | but it's effectiveness in raiding is debatable |
| 07:16.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i just threw it together quickly, so there might be a few points strewn about aimlessly. :P |
| 07:16.44 | theoddone33 | I haven't kept up on pve |
| 07:16.59 | NightHawkTheSane | prep is worth having for the second BF/sprint/vanish, etc |
| 07:17.00 | Wobwork | well, since they're changing the skills so that it's nolonger +skill |
| 07:17.05 | Wobwork | and it's +crit... |
| 07:17.07 | NightHawkTheSane | especially if you're already going far enough for hemo |
| 07:17.14 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 07:17.28 | theoddone33 | true |
| 07:17.33 | Pkekyo | yay, zeh moocow is now pvp specced :) |
| 07:17.42 | theoddone33 | there's nothing to put it into in the other trees that's better |
| 07:17.45 | NightHawkTheSane | garrote to open and a rupture/snd cycle for finishers |
| 07:18.03 | Wobwork | ie always keeping a dot up |
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| 07:18.16 | Wobwork | for those targets taht can bleed, that is |
| 07:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
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| 07:18.44 | NightHawkTheSane | arguably unbleedable targets are a real wekness of the build, as it's strenghts are in the heavily boosted garrote and rupture |
| 07:18.54 | theoddone33 | not sure how much AP you need to make hemo work these days |
| 07:19.02 | theoddone33 | and I'm not sure there are swords slow enough |
| 07:19.09 | theoddone33 | but I haven't looked |
| 07:19.24 | NightHawkTheSane | There's a thread on EJ that does some real hard math comparing a hemo build to standard combat builds for raiding, probably worth checking out |
| 07:19.25 | Wobwork | That's why I'm using a mace |
| 07:19.35 | theoddone33 | yeah I'll look at that |
| 07:19.41 | theoddone33 | probably while I should be sleeping or working |
| 07:19.44 | theoddone33 | but I'll look |
| 07:19.48 | Wobwork | I'm headfing off home |
| 07:19.50 | NightHawkTheSane | speaking of sleeping |
| 07:19.52 | Wobwork | bbiab |
| 07:19.58 | xyu` | Anyone know why our tank would still be taking crushing blows at 490 def? |
| 07:19.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm seriously, honestly, absolutely, going to sleep now. |
| 07:20.21 | NightHawkTheSane | xyu`: because defense does not reduce crushing blow percentages. :) |
| 07:20.34 | xyu` | I thought you could be crush immune |
| 07:20.36 | xyu` | at 490 |
| 07:20.44 | Xinhuan | AV weekend started, time to farm it up |
| 07:20.49 | Xinhuan | before gay AV changes next patch |
| 07:21.06 | theoddone33 | yeah no kidding |
| 07:21.08 | ckknight | Pkekyo, it's not part of FuBar or PitBull. It can be used by FuBar's plugins, though |
| 07:21.45 | theoddone33 | 490 assumes shield block/holy shield pushing crush off the table iirc |
| 07:22.01 | Pkekyo | ckknight: hmm...how does the rockconfig work with fubar then? I tend to misclick alot and get that huge config screen slammed in my face more often than I'd like |
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| 07:24.34 | Fisker- | well i'm gonna become an hero then |
| 07:26.34 | Orionshock | urg... |
| 07:26.40 | Orionshock | >.- |
| 07:27.19 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: huh? |
| 07:28.32 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1193382185072.jpg <-haha gogo pedobear |
| 07:29.13 | Pkekyo | wtf |
| 07:33.58 | Zhinjio | so can someone explain the differences in data seen by assessment vs. combatlog vs. swstats? |
| 07:34.07 | Zhinjio | I had my range set to 100yds on assessment. |
| 07:34.16 | Zhinjio | I used 3 different people's logs for WWS |
| 07:34.26 | Zhinjio | swstats, I guess, syncs between all players running it |
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| 07:41.36 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: difference |
| 07:41.41 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53258 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 07:41.41 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:41.41 | CIA-7 | - Rewrote scrollframe completely, tested it and scroll up/down both work. WINNAR! |
| 07:41.50 | Orionshock | the real difference is not in the combat but in the logging |
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| 07:41.57 | Ackis | that fix caused two wipes on essence btw, feel proud! |
| 07:42.02 | Pedro | hey |
| 07:42.21 | Pedro | thank you thank you! |
| 07:42.32 | Pedro | a vote! I'm a politician now I guess |
| 07:43.48 | Pedro | ooooh, I'm actually going to get elected at this rate (dunno what for though) |
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| 07:44.20 | Zhinjio | Orionshock: so what each person see's from their own perspective? |
| 07:44.21 | Orionshock | US prezidant ... you can't fk it up worse than bush |
| 07:44.31 | Pedro | haha |
| 07:44.37 | Ackis | lol |
| 07:44.44 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: from how the author of said addon / site decides to count teh dmg |
| 07:44.47 | *** part/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@colorenco.speedxs.nl) |
| 07:44.50 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 07:45.05 | Zhinjio | I see. |
| 07:45.07 | Pedro | seriously though, can anyone point me towards some sort of addon that'll let me get a backtrace when an error occurs? |
| 07:45.11 | Zhinjio | even WWS is going to be someone's interpretation |
| 07:45.14 | Pedro | (or even a way to do it manually) |
| 07:46.30 | Pedro | got some addon borking my tooltips big time (get an error about GameToolTip:SetOwner() usage every time I mouseover my unitframe) |
| 07:47.14 | Zhinjio | Pedro: are you running some error capture plugin, like Bugsack or BugGrabber? |
| 07:47.59 | Zhinjio | those will at least tell you what plugin and line number is causing the problem. |
| 07:48.01 | Pedro | tried running buggrabber, which is also acting up |
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| 07:53.24 | Pedro | riiiight. If I have buggrabber active on my addon listing, I get vanilla tooltips, working just fine, and /buggrabber is not recognized as a valid slash command |
| 07:54.33 | Pedro | if I *don't* have it activated, I get an error on Interface\FrameXML\GameTooltip.lua, about GameToolTip:SetOwner() |
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| 07:55.50 | Pedro | namely, it says "Usage: GameToolTip:SetOwner(frame)" rather than the "GameToolTip:SetOwner(frame, anchor)" that some looking up indicated as being the minimal argument list... |
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| 08:00.46 | Ackis | if something has a name of "$parentFoo", how can I reference it later? |
| 08:00.55 | Pkekyo | Ladies and gentelmen, I introduce you: MELEE HUNTER, well, almost: |
| 08:00.55 | Pkekyo | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/hunter1yard.jpg |
| 08:01.05 | Pkekyo | point blank aimed shot ftw |
| 08:01.25 | NeoTron | Another night, two more kills - Naj' and Supremus |
| 08:01.30 | nevcairiel | thats probably going to be changed again |
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| 08:01.43 | nevcairiel | melee and ranged at the same time is prolly not intended |
| 08:01.48 | Orionshock | Ackis: you remember |
| 08:02.02 | nevcairiel | You know what $parent is |
| 08:02.23 | Pkekyo | nevcairiel: it'd better... aimed shot, multishot, arcane shot + wing clip + raptor strike without even have to move a yard to or from the target...it's a bloody joke |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-7 | 03cronan * r53259 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-7 | BigBrother: |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-7 | - Update koKR |
| 08:03.05 | Ackis | $parentFoo is essentially parent .. Foo? I haven't been using xml at all |
| 08:03.50 | nevcairiel | If the template references $parentFoo, and you create a frame called "Bar" inheriting said template, then it will be BarFoo |
| 08:04.12 | Ackis | ok tyvm |
| 08:04.35 | theoddone33 | I like that they're adding an offhand only dagger that's better than the mainhand one in 2.3 pvp rewards |
| 08:04.49 | Orionshock | Bar..Foo:SetWidth(x) dosn't work too well :D |
| 08:05.17 | ckknight | Orionshock, if you hit the square peg into the round hole hard enough, it'll go in |
| 08:05.27 | Orionshock | lol |
| 08:05.53 | Zhinjio | Good evening, ckknight |
| 08:06.21 | Orionshock | however, "getglobal("Bar".."Foo"):SetWidth(x) does |
| 08:07.36 | Orionshock | then again that's assinine :D |
| 08:08.35 | ckknight | _G["Bar".."Foo"]:SetWidth(x) |
| 08:08.44 | Pkekyo | ~atlasloot |
| 08:09.01 | Pkekyo | anyone know who's responsible for atlasloot? |
| 08:09.25 | ckknight | Daviesh? |
| 08:09.32 | Pkekyo | ~seen daviesh |
| 08:09.34 | purl | i haven't seen 'daviesh', Pkekyo |
| 08:10.01 | Pkekyo | the s3 sets were added to atlasloot...I made the mistake of opening the page...got disconnected |
| 08:10.01 | Pkekyo | -every time- I open atlasloot now, I get disconnected >.< |
| 08:10.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:11.03 | Orionshock | .... i'v been reading bliz code again... |
| 08:11.12 | Pkekyo | Orionshock: you have my condolances |
| 08:11.36 | Orionshock | they like to use " thingAMaJig = getglobal(base.."Extention") " |
| 08:11.46 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo, you get disconnected because |
| 08:11.52 | Orionshock | and all over the fking place too |
| 08:11.55 | Xinhuan | you have the option to "query server for itemlinks automatically" turned on |
| 08:12.10 | Xinhuan | and the server now disconnects on requesting more than 5 links within a 30 sec period now |
| 08:12.24 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: I know why it happens |
| 08:12.39 | Pkekyo | my problem is that it _does_ happen |
| 08:12.51 | Xinhuan | turn off the option |
| 08:13.08 | Orionshock | Pkekyo: disable Atlasloot |
| 08:13.11 | Xinhuan | alt-click the fubar icon to open options without opening |
| 08:13.13 | Xinhuan | atlastloot |
| 08:13.35 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: thanks, you're a lifesaver |
| 08:14.14 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: any idea what addon I should turn off? "all item links"? |
| 08:14.28 | Xinhuan | not quite sure what you mean |
| 08:14.30 | Fisker- | 1+1 = 2 |
| 08:14.57 | Zhinjio | Fisker, are you sure? |
| 08:15.04 | Zhinjio | where's RaydenUni when you need him. |
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| 08:15.39 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: I need to find an option to disable the unsafe links, no? |
| 08:15.46 | Xinhuan | don't have to |
| 08:15.58 | Xinhuan | querying/linking unsafe links doesn't disconnect you |
| 08:16.06 | Xinhuan | its querying more than a couple at a time that will. |
| 08:16.27 | Xinhuan | feel free to try linking an unsafe item, the server just displays the text |
| 08:16.29 | Pkekyo | yeah, well it automaticly queries -everything- on the first page when I open atlasloot... that's three druid s3 sets |
| 08:16.30 | Xinhuan | as though you typed it |
| 08:16.55 | Xinhuan | yeah, so turn off the very first option that says "AutoQuery items on loot tables" |
| 08:17.00 | Xinhuan | that's all |
| 08:17.25 | Pkekyo | how can I have missed such an blatantly obvious option as that? >.< |
| 08:18.10 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: no such option there |
| 08:18.21 | Xinhuan | that option was added yesterday |
| 08:18.25 | Xinhuan | in a commit |
| 08:18.27 | Xinhuan | feel free to update |
| 08:18.48 | Xinhuan | because the server changed the link querying spam thing 2-3 days ago only |
| 08:18.58 | Xinhuan | it used to be ok to query like 200 links per 15 sec |
| 08:19.15 | Xinhuan | in fact that option defaults to OFF |
| 08:19.19 | Xinhuan | when you first update |
| 08:19.48 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53260 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 08:19.48 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 08:19.48 | CIA-7 | - Now hides the scroll bar if it's not needed |
| 08:20.50 | Pkekyo | huh... |
| 08:20.51 | Xinhuan | ackis, still not understanding why you would want to write your own scrollbars ;p |
| 08:21.53 | Ackis | I didn't :) |
| 08:22.08 | Ackis | your comments made me see wtf i was doing wrong |
| 08:22.20 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 08:22.22 | Xinhuan | my comments? |
| 08:22.24 | Pkekyo | thanks Xinhuan: lifesaver :) |
| 08:22.27 | Ackis | earlier in the night lol |
| 08:22.45 | Ackis | about looking at UIPanelTemplate |
| 08:22.47 | Xinhuan | i'm just running around on my mount in AV atm |
| 08:23.08 | Xinhuan | picking up free AV weekend honor |
| 08:23.28 | Pkekyo | approx what arena rating do I have to have to get 423 arena points? |
| 08:23.44 | Xinhuan | try !points 423 |
| 08:24.07 | Pkekyo | !points 423 |
| 08:24.12 | Ackis | thanks for telling me it's AV weekend |
| 08:24.14 | Ackis | :D |
| 08:24.15 | Xinhuan | hmm i disabled it in this channel |
| 08:24.22 | Pkekyo | the goggles, they do nothing :p |
| 08:24.27 | Pkekyo | !ar |
| 08:24.32 | Pkekyo | !ar 423 |
| 08:24.34 | Xinhuan | try again |
| 08:24.37 | Xinhuan | i undisabled it |
| 08:24.39 | Pkekyo | !points 423 |
| 08:24.39 | Xinhuan | 423 arena points require 1568(5s), 1612(3s) and 1666(2s) team rating. |
| 08:24.47 | Xinhuan | k maybe the word should have been "enabled" |
| 08:24.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:24.59 | Pkekyo | meh, guess I'll have to spend two weeks pvp specced then :< |
| 08:25.04 | Pkekyo | !points 250 |
| 08:25.05 | Xinhuan | 250 arena points require 1073(5s), 1228(3s) and 1432(2s) team rating. |
| 08:25.16 | Xinhuan | i have the other one as well.. !rating |
| 08:26.11 | Xinhuan | well i don't really think its possible to go below 1500 rating if you're semi decent ;p |
| 08:26.30 | Xinhuan | with a non-retarded class makeup of course (like 5 warriors team) |
| 08:26.38 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: had two rogues in my 2v2 team go completely apeshit a night and run my arena team down to 1100 rating |
| 08:26.57 | Xinhuan | well 2 rogues = retarded class make up |
| 08:27.03 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 08:27.11 | Pkekyo | and when they both are in fact fuctards in addition to that |
| 08:27.18 | Pkekyo | ....meh! |
| 08:27.33 | Pkekyo | I've gotten my 2v2 up to 1464 rating again |
| 08:27.47 | Pkekyo | been prot for half a year or so |
| 08:28.07 | Xinhuan | warrior/druid is a good easy combo |
| 08:28.13 | Xinhuan | doesn't even require much skill to get to 1900 |
| 08:28.15 | Zhinjio | I should youtube my prot farming fraps. |
| 08:28.23 | Xinhuan | need to be MS spec though |
| 08:28.31 | Zhinjio | just for giggles. |
| 08:28.51 | Pkekyo | aye...me'n my druid mate used to rip peoplle new arseholes...then he quit wow >.< |
| 08:28.52 | Pkekyo | now I'm gonna start pvping again a bit with an elemental shammy |
| 08:28.54 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: please do |
| 08:29.11 | Zhinjio | locating it. I know I have it on here somewhere. |
| 08:29.40 | Arrowmaster | i need to start doing arenas again, build up some points to get some S3 gear |
| 08:29.55 | Xinhuan | i'm a bit upset cos i have 2 teams and i didn't get any points |
| 08:29.56 | Xinhuan | from last week |
| 08:30.12 | Xinhuan | GM said they "could not verify that i played any games last week" as data is wiped after the week is over |
| 08:30.44 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: I know the feeling...haven't gotten a single point for months |
| 08:30.51 | Pkekyo | I simply can't afford to respecc from prot x) |
| 08:31.09 | evl | Is it possible to detect when an enemy player gains a buff even if the player is not targeting the enemy? |
| 08:31.18 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:31.21 | Xinhuan | use the combat log |
| 08:31.27 | evl | parserlib gogo? |
| 08:31.35 | Zhinjio | heh. found it. |
| 08:31.42 | Zhinjio | 81M at 1280x1024 |
| 08:31.57 | Zhinjio | you tube is gonna choke on that. |
| 08:31.59 | Arrowmaster | ive earned less than 3000 arena points total |
| 08:32.02 | Zhinjio | and turn it into media goo. |
| 08:32.52 | Xinhuan | one of my guildies made about 1k gold this week |
| 08:32.57 | Xinhuan | selling 4 2v2 arena teams |
| 08:33.00 | Xinhuan | at 800 points each |
| 08:33.12 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 08:33.14 | Xinhuan | sold like 400g or 500g per person, split among the 2 ppl |
| 08:33.26 | Arrowmaster | oh points not rating |
| 08:33.29 | Xinhuan | by selling points that is |
| 08:33.31 | Xinhuan | not selling the team |
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| 08:33.39 | Orionshock | question: " extra, status = mod:CheckExtraQuest() " expects 2 values to return, if nothing returns does it nil both vars? |
| 08:33.47 | Xinhuan | there's a ridiculous amount of ppl buying points on my server |
| 08:33.56 | Xinhuan | Orionshock: not necessarily |
| 08:34.11 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.17 | Xinhuan | if i have a function "return nil, 2" then extra == nil and status == 2 |
| 08:34.54 | Xinhuan | likewise, "return nil" is different from "return" |
| 08:34.55 | Orionshock | one sec - generating pasty for context |
| 08:35.22 | Arrowmaster | i say just fucking test it |
| 08:36.06 | Orionshock | ... ok |
| 08:36.40 | Arrowmaster | anybody that knows the answer and is 100% sure probably isnt here at this time of night |
| 08:36.57 | Zhinjio | where's a better place to post large media since youtube is just going to butcher it? |
| 08:36.58 | Orionshock | ah fk me that worked |
| 08:37.00 | Zhinjio | other than my own site. |
| 08:37.22 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: what are you posting? |
| 08:37.31 | Zhinjio | avi of my pally tank farming. |
| 08:37.36 | Arrowmaster | stage6 |
| 08:37.56 | Zhinjio | looking... |
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| 08:41.17 | Fisker- | what does the scouter say about my powerlevel? |
| 08:45.38 | Zhinjio | attempting to upload to their site now. |
| 08:45.53 | Zhinjio | Probably will still need to convert it down to a smaller dize. |
| 08:45.56 | Zhinjio | er, size. |
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| 08:51.53 | Cartas | Hi old chaps! What's a good program for finding or catching keyloggers? :o |
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| 08:52.17 | cryogen | sylvanaar: ping |
| 08:52.27 | sylvanaar | hm |
| 08:53.07 | cryogen | prat is like, broken for me since i update last night |
| 08:53.16 | Cartas | Get Mumble! :) |
| 08:53.51 | Pedro | Ok, this is profoundly bizarre... Forecast is borking my tooltips, but I can't find anything wrong with it... wth? |
| 08:54.24 | the-golem | FUCKING CHESS |
| 08:54.27 | the-golem | never drops my shit |
| 08:55.39 | chexsum | theres always next week! |
| 08:55.57 | Cartas | Chess isn't about the reward, it's the playing that counts. |
| 08:56.08 | sylvanaar | cryogen like what is broken\ |
| 08:56.36 | evl | Is tracking buffs/debuffs with ParserLib a bad idea performance wise? |
| 08:57.01 | Xinhuan | evl: no, because its usually the only way (if nobody targets the mob in question) |
| 08:57.09 | evl | that was the idea |
| 08:57.16 | sylvanaar | i havent been able to run it in-game, i just made some quick fixes |
| 08:57.16 | evl | I'm trying to make something that tracks debufs like sap and blind |
| 08:57.22 | evl | without relying on unitId |
| 08:57.47 | Xinhuan | it won't be 100% accurate but its the best you can do |
| 08:57.57 | nevcairiel | since debuffs generally end up on enemys, you could potentally write your own little parser |
| 08:58.02 | nevcairiel | its like one event you need to listen to |
| 08:58.14 | evl | but I already have parserlib running |
| 08:58.27 | evl | via Threat |
| 08:59.05 | chexsum | hasbuff shoud work next patch :) |
| 08:59.21 | CIA-7 | 03jerry 07jerry * r53261 10Grid/Grid/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Grid: (branch) merge changes from trunk |
| 08:59.33 | Xinhuan | you probably have parserlib running via parrot too, or SCT or SCL |
| 08:59.52 | evl | If I already have ParserLib loaded and active, it seems to be a good idea to use that instead of making my own parser? |
| 09:00.08 | chexsum | use libparser :P |
| 09:00.15 | evl | mkay, thanks |
| 09:00.42 | Diao | i need to go through my addons folder and delete all my libs and reinstall addons i think |
| 09:00.56 | Zhinjio | oh ffs. DivX convert cannot encode the input file because it contains an invalid video stream |
| 09:01.03 | Xinhuan | won't really be of much use because WAU would redownload all the old libs |
| 09:01.04 | Zhinjio | this is coming directly from a frags output file. |
| 09:01.07 | Zhinjio | biznatch. |
| 09:01.10 | Xinhuan | even if there are newer libs |
| 09:01.30 | Xinhuan | like LibParser-4.0 would still download ParserLib-3.0 due to dependencies |
| 09:01.39 | evl | to clean up unused libs I usually just disable every lib on the logon screen except Ace2 and Threat |
| 09:02.31 | cryogen | sylvanaar: like, everything |
| 09:02.38 | cryogen | sylvanaar: i have no modules loaded, at all, or listed |
| 09:02.53 | Orionshock | WTF |
| 09:02.55 | cryogen | prat itself is loaded, and i have the prat fubar menu |
| 09:02.55 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.59 | Diao | oh |
| 09:03.06 | Orionshock | returns the last quest you picked up ? |
| 09:03.46 | cryogen | the last one you saw, not necessarily picked up |
| 09:03.51 | cryogen | at least thats what im seeing |
| 09:04.03 | Orionshock | glitch |
| 09:04.59 | Orionshock | btw, is there an alternitive to GEM? |
| 09:05.11 | chexsum | yeah |
| 09:05.16 | Orionshock | eh? |
| 09:05.18 | Xinhuan | not that i know of |
| 09:05.20 | Xinhuan | but probably |
| 09:05.32 | chexsum | trying to think of its name |
| 09:05.39 | Orionshock | GroupCallender? |
| 09:05.40 | sylvanaar | cryogen, uncheck AutoLoD? |
| 09:05.43 | chexsum | yeah that |
| 09:06.10 | chexsum | i think theyre both too big for normal use though |
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| 09:07.51 | sylvanaar | i use evl's method - ACP supports it directly via "protected addons" |
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| 09:09.07 | cryogen | sylvanaar: where would i find that? |
| 09:09.16 | sylvanaar | cryogen on the menu |
| 09:09.24 | cryogen | the menu is.. quite blank |
| 09:09.30 | Zhinjio | I remember when divx was actually good. |
| 09:09.31 | cryogen | profiles and "enabled" checkbox is all i see on it |
| 09:09.35 | Zhinjio | why did it have to start sucking so much |
| 09:09.42 | cryogen | divx was never good |
| 09:09.44 | cryogen | it was just new |
| 09:09.49 | Zhinjio | fair enough |
| 09:10.11 | Zhinjio | stage6 requires it to be divx formatted. |
| 09:10.53 | chexsum | divx was ust popular becuase it was used to rip dvds mostly |
| 09:11.14 | Xinhuan | what video format do you like |
| 09:11.15 | sylvanaar | cryogen i dont know - dont make me ask 20 questions - errors, dubuggins, embedded libs....etc |
| 09:11.24 | chexsum | its junk for streaming |
| 09:11.25 | Zhinjio | yeah, screw stage6. any other sites that are less of a pita? |
| 09:11.47 | Zhinjio | for hosting a large video file so other can view? |
| 09:11.56 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: filefront |
| 09:12.21 | Arrowmaster | do you want them to be able to view it in browser or just download it? |
| 09:12.27 | Xinhuan | they do "preview" streaming + lets you download the actual high quality file |
| 09:12.31 | cryogen | sylvanaar: zero errors, nothing changed apart from the fact i updated last night, i used WAU in embedded mode |
| 09:12.41 | cryogen | s/used/use/ |
| 09:13.31 | sylvanaar | do you have ace2 installed and disabled? |
| 09:14.24 | cryogen | the standalone ace2 addon? |
| 09:14.31 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 09:14.37 | cryogen | its not installed at all |
| 09:15.16 | Orionshock | urg.. that glitch likes to fk chit up for me |
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| 09:17.14 | sylvanaar | cryogen keep going- unpacked? can you get debug output with the MODULE subsystem enabeled |
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| 09:20.44 | cryogen | did that, reloaded, and got minimap module loaded ok |
| 09:20.45 | cryogen | nothing else |
| 09:21.15 | Zhinjio | filefront is not giving me shit. Good choice. |
| 09:21.38 | Zhinjio | arrowmaster: download and view. |
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| 09:21.48 | Zhinjio | I could care less if it is in a browser view. |
| 09:22.10 | Arrowmaster | then yeah any random hosting site will work |
| 09:23.02 | Zhinjio | my upload speed is only 700Kbps ... 5 mins left. |
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| 09:26.04 | Diao | wow |
| 09:26.09 | Diao | 8 minute av win for horde o: |
| 09:26.25 | evl | well AV blows |
| 09:26.30 | evl | so easy for horde to kite battlemasters |
| 09:26.59 | Diao | actually |
| 09:27.04 | Diao | i tanked all 4 battlemasters |
| 09:27.06 | Diao | while people dpsed them down lol |
| 09:27.32 | Pkekyo | anyone know what the s1 pieces will cost in honor? |
| 09:28.18 | Zhinjio | ok, Pkekyo... see if this works for you: http://hosted.filefront.com/Zhinjio/ |
| 09:28.38 | Zhinjio | link is ther for PallyTanking.avi |
| 09:28.43 | Zhinjio | s/ther/there/ |
| 09:29.12 | Pkekyo | aye, it works |
| 09:29.30 | Zhinjio | take a look! |
| 09:29.31 | Zhinjio | *grin* |
| 09:30.03 | Zhinjio | there seemed to be a glitch about 1 min in to the file that prevented one player from viewing all the way through. |
| 09:30.12 | Zhinjio | but when I just clicked further down the slider, it worked fine. |
| 09:30.14 | Zhinjio | *shrug* |
| 09:30.21 | Zhinjio | probably something weird about how I converted it the first time. |
| 09:30.47 | Pkekyo | doing 2v2s atm...will have a looksie later |
| 09:30.53 | Zhinjio | ok, sure. |
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| 09:32.07 | evl | I don't get why they are going to change so that battlemasters spawn if you destory a tower, people can easily tank 4 of them in T6 and not even get scratched. |
| 09:32.31 | cryogen | sylvanaar: fyi, reinstalling the package via wau fixed it, i guess something pretty major changed :) |
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| 09:33.40 | sylvanaar | cryogen i dont think so, but im glad it works |
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| 09:37.54 | dieck | cryogen: I do a "reinstall all addons" whenever something seems wrong, pretty often fixes some things |
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| 09:45.55 | Pkekyo | is there any resilience gems? |
| 09:47.29 | Ozguli | Pkekyo yes |
| 09:48.01 | Ozguli | but not sure if resilience only, I checked some random JC on my server for talasite and there was +resi +stam gem in results |
| 09:48.16 | Jops | Its a +8 resilience gem from Halaa |
| 09:48.21 | Jops | and one with resilience and stamina |
| 09:48.29 | Jops | and I think its one epic one from BT |
| 09:49.52 | dreamss | 3 gems |
| 09:50.00 | dreamss | 1 epic one for flight halaa tokens |
| 09:50.05 | Pkekyo | Jops: the one from halaa, what color is it, and is it unique-equipped? |
| 09:50.15 | dreamss | 2 blues ones, sta and resilance and resilance only |
| 09:50.23 | dreamss | epic is unique/yellow |
| 09:50.26 | nevcairiel | halaa is yellow, and not unique |
| 09:50.39 | dreamss | 8 resilance blue from JC is yellow |
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| 09:51.36 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 09:51.43 | Pkekyo | gonna have to get me some of those |
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| 09:57.34 | baer_ | damn, voidreaver stayed at 1% and 2% :-/ |
| 09:58.03 | baer_ | that totally sucked. thanks for the tip which bigwigs/chat bubbles again. :) |
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| 10:27.40 | Speeddymon_ | Ackis: awake? |
| 10:27.52 | Ackis | lol |
| 10:27.58 | Ackis | i just got to my computer |
| 10:28.05 | Ackis | another night of insomnia |
| 10:30.46 | Speeddymon_ | heh |
| 10:30.59 | Speeddymon_ | im workin on handling the button stuff in skillet.. |
| 10:31.16 | Ackis | yah i saw one of the comit logs from you about that |
| 10:31.21 | Speeddymon_ | ive gotta be at work in half an hour, though i get off at 10 cst |
| 10:32.04 | Ackis | aight, I've been in pm's w/ the author about a few things to do with it... the code should work however (for adding the button that is) |
| 10:32.06 | Speeddymon_ | well it works, except that arl creates a new button each time, and so skillet moves and shows that new button farther to the left each time it is opened |
| 10:32.07 | Speeddymon_ | yea |
| 10:32.13 | Ackis | yah |
| 10:32.34 | Ackis | i'm wondering if moving it to an onload event would be better |
| 10:32.42 | Speeddymon_ | yes |
| 10:32.49 | Speeddymon_ | i was just about to say something to that effect |
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| 10:33.14 | Speeddymon_ | just create it onenable, and then unhide it when skillet is opened |
| 10:33.44 | Speeddymon_ | i would put the change in but like i said i gotta work for a whopping 4 hours this morning.. |
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| 10:34.11 | Ackis | i don't think i even have to do that much, i'd justh ave to create it in onload and pass it to skillet... the only thing is, will skillet be loaded by then? |
| 10:36.35 | Speeddymon_ | hmm.. maybe skillet should fire off an event (SKILLET_AVAILABLE) or something to let other addons know it is available to be used |
| 10:37.36 | Ackis | it was kinda the crux of my question to skillets author hehe |
| 10:38.02 | Ackis | btw, i rewrote the scrollbars... was working on that off and on all day, but they look to work... i found a way to test them on my own system |
| 10:38.58 | Ackis | it was hard to test scrolling when i was mising 4 alchemy, 16 enchanting and 2 cooking recipes only lol |
| 10:40.03 | Demetrious | Does anyone knows which Fubar addon (from wowace svn) tries to whisper or otherwise contact a player on BG, specifically on WSG, which produces "No player 'playername' can be found." messages? It seems it is trying to contact them or something using the name and not the name - realm. |
| 10:40.28 | Speeddymon_ | i see |
| 10:40.42 | Industrial | Demetrious: disable addons and find out? |
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| 10:41.16 | Speeddymon_ | Demetrious, you sure it is coming from WAU? There are other addons that use ace and communicate like that that are not on WAU, like WIM.. |
| 10:41.24 | Acacia | Hello everyone :) |
| 10:41.33 | Speeddymon_ | hi |
| 10:41.34 | Industrial | lo Acacia |
| 10:41.46 | Demetrious | Industrial: Right, that's one approach. But since it only occurrs in BG, specifically in WSG, it is hard to test. Speeddymon, I only use addons from wowace SVN. |
| 10:41.51 | Acacia | I'm deeply thinking of migrate all my addons needs to ACE |
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| 10:42.16 | dreamss | it could be doing /who |
| 10:42.18 | Speeddymon_ | Ackis: they were working before as well hehe but i definitely like the clarification of using child instead of frame.. |
| 10:42.18 | dreamss | and not tells |
| 10:42.27 | Acacia | as I'm playing a warlock now, any advices of don't miss addons? |
| 10:42.30 | Speeddymon_ | dreamss: true |
| 10:42.39 | Demetrious | dreamss: It could, although I do not comprehend why. |
| 10:43.01 | Speeddymon_ | Acacia: What is the reasoning? Ace is not a magic bean that fixes problems |
| 10:43.05 | Ackis | Speedy: Didn't you say that one of the scroll buttons didn't work? lol that's why i started the whole investigating it :P regardless, I learnt a lot about stuffz today |
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| 10:43.08 | snurre | sure it is! |
| 10:43.27 | Industrial | Acacia: well dont. They aren't better just because they use Ace2. Decide per addon if you like it better then other addons, whatever backend it may use (this doesnt concern users in general, as its just a developer tool). |
| 10:43.30 | Speeddymon_ | Ackis: i fixed it last night in revision 53251 |
| 10:43.36 | Speeddymon_ | l2update |
| 10:43.39 | sylvanaar | Demetrious its doing SendAddonMessage - WHISPER |
| 10:43.41 | Acacia | Speeddymon_: well, as a software developer, I can recognize nice librairies ;-) |
| 10:44.04 | Industrial | Acacia: but there are crap Ace2 addons too |
| 10:44.13 | Speeddymon_ | heh see what industrial said.. |
| 10:44.16 | Silviu- | Acacia, PitBull, Quartz, CowTip, Bartender3, BigWigs, EavesDrop, Omen, MobHealth, ShardAce, simpeminimap :) |
| 10:44.19 | Acacia | Industrial: you're right but i'm pretty sure I can replace every addons I use to ace'd ones. |
| 10:44.23 | Demetrious | sylvanaar: Will do a find in all, looking for that string. Thanks. |
| 10:44.31 | sylvanaar | blizzard should fix that error |
| 10:44.46 | snurre | ace2 addons arent in theory better than others, it just seems this community puts more effort into their addons resulting in better addons for other reasons aswell |
| 10:45.15 | Ackis | Speedy: It was originally the UI one and not faux, I changed it to faux to hopefully help w/ that issue you had, and instead it broke everything :P |
| 10:45.22 | Acacia | addons writers seems to update then very often and I saw there's an auto updater |
| 10:45.52 | Acacia | Silviu-: could you explain why Pitbull and not AGUF? |
| 10:45.55 | Industrial | snurre: BUT that is no reason to dismiss other addons by default - something that happens too often |
| 10:46.09 | sylvanaar | they have a higher probability of being "better" due to the feedback/responce cycle |
| 10:46.09 | [Ammo] | Industrial: your addons sucks balls, dismissed! |
| 10:46.13 | [Ammo] | *cackle* |
| 10:46.16 | snurre | true, although in 99% of the cases you will end up using an ace2 version anyway :p |
| 10:46.19 | Silviu- | Acacia each person have it`s own preferances, i used ag_uf now pitbull and i won`t switch back :) |
| 10:46.23 | Industrial | [Ammo]: rofl |
| 10:46.40 | Acacia | Silviu-: ok, so it's just a matter a preference |
| 10:46.41 | Speeddymon_ | Ackis: i know, so i changed it back without reverting any of the other changes, and it worked.. faux is used if you want to process the move yourself.. in otherwords, you want to detect that your text is longer than the frame, and you want to handle how it is positioned with each notch in the slider's position |
| 10:46.51 | Acacia | [Ammo]: are you the one who wrote Necronomicon? |
| 10:46.52 | Industrial | snurre: actually no :> I ended up using my own non Ace2 addons, and they ARE better. |
| 10:46.56 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 10:47.01 | [Ammo] | Acacia: correct |
| 10:47.06 | Silviu- | Acacia ag_uf is more simple, pitbull have a lot of options and configurations, try each :) |
| 10:47.36 | sylvanaar | everyone's personally written addons are better clearly |
| 10:47.47 | Silviu- | True :) |
| 10:47.53 | Ackis | Speedy: I have to read up on it more, but it seems like I'm going to have move to faux eventially (ie: the smelting issue) |
| 10:47.56 | Acacia | [Ammo]: I'm using Necrosis right know, do you think I can switch to Necronomicon with no fear? I mean, all the warlock features are in? |
| 10:48.04 | [Ammo] | no |
| 10:48.09 | Speeddymon_ | smelting issue? |
| 10:48.13 | [Ammo] | it has only the features I need and want |
| 10:48.22 | Ackis | The text for the elementium ore is too long |
| 10:48.30 | Silviu- | Acacia try ShardAce and Quartz for debuffs :) |
| 10:48.32 | Acacia | [Ammo]: ok, that's what I read on an old post in the forum. |
| 10:48.38 | Demetrious | I used to be hardcore, played with the default interface, no addons, just like Mr. Norris does. I pussy out. |
| 10:48.46 | [Ammo] | well Necronomicon nolonger works Necronomicon2 does |
| 10:48.56 | Acacia | Silviu-: ok, I write the names ;-) |
| 10:49.10 | Speeddymon_ | oh yea |
| 10:49.14 | Acacia | [Ammo]: of course, I was talking of the latest one |
| 10:49.27 | Silviu- | Acacia http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4675 :) |
| 10:49.29 | [Ammo] | I've been toying with a few extra ideas |
| 10:49.36 | Speeddymon_ | heh honestly, I would just break it down into a ordered list.. |
| 10:49.36 | [Ammo] | but in the end, I don't need it |
| 10:49.38 | [Ammo] | and I don't code it |
| 10:49.52 | Speeddymon_ | anyways i gotta leave or im gonna be late |
| 10:49.59 | Ackis | aight, have fun at work |
| 10:50.00 | Speeddymon_ | pst me any thoughts ackis |
| 10:50.02 | Speeddymon_ | later |
| 10:50.04 | Acacia | I was browsing the wiki a lot this morning and what I can say is that it miss a lot of addons availables on the files section and scrrenshots toot :-) |
| 10:50.23 | Silviu- | True :) |
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| 10:50.44 | sylvanaar | make some wiki pages and screen shots |
| 10:50.51 | Diao | that's because nobody created a wiki for the addon when they added it to svn :P |
| 10:51.04 | Acacia | Silviu-: thanks for that link, seems a nice addon |
| 10:52.35 | Acacia | any bad issu with WowAceUpdater? |
| 10:52.39 | Silviu- | Acacia if u will install other addons from wowace and install without externals then u could also delete the libs inside ShardAce and bump the toc to 20200 works fine :) |
| 10:52.53 | Acacia | ok |
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| 10:55.44 | Acacia | could you explain what are doing Quartz, CowTip, EavesDrop ? |
| 10:55.56 | Acacia | (was to Silviu- ) |
| 10:56.07 | Industrial | castingbar, tooltip, combat damage |
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| 10:56.53 | Acacia | combat damage? like scrolling combat text? |
| 10:57.03 | Industrial | yeah but in a small window |
| 10:57.15 | Acacia | nice :) |
| 10:57.17 | Industrial | like a combatlog without the crap |
| 10:57.49 | CIA-7 | 03diablohu * r53262 10Proximo/ (Proximo.toc localization-zhCN.lua): |
| 10:57.49 | CIA-7 | Proximo: |
| 10:57.49 | CIA-7 | - added zhCN |
| 11:02.38 | Acacia | well, thanks all for the information, back to work, have a nice day |
| 11:03.10 | Industrial | bai |
| 11:03.34 | Industrial | yay for helping people |
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| 11:06.51 | elusif | could you run wow off Corsair Flash Voyager GT, 8GB USB2.0, 27/34MB sec w/r speed, ReadyBoost, SLC |
| 11:07.13 | elusif | i will fit with a few hundred mbs to spare but would it be quick enough? |
| 11:08.27 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel * r53263 10Bartender3/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender3: updated zhCN translation, thanks to Yaroot |
| 11:16.55 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53264 10FishermansFriend/ (FishermansFriend.lua FishermansFriend.toc): FishermansFriend: drycoded tweaks and corrections |
| 11:17.34 | evl | Strongest Addon there is? |
| 11:19.30 | the-golem | elusif: thinking about sneaking wow at work eh? :P |
| 11:21.54 | the-golem | Industrial: who does eavesdrop? |
| 11:22.19 | the-golem | nevermind that |
| 11:22.20 | the-golem | ^^ |
| 11:23.03 | elusif | :) |
| 11:23.31 | elusif | i've had to move in with my mom for a few weeks untili find another place and i don't think you can get broadband in a box in her area |
| 11:23.43 | elusif | so i've resorted to internet cafes! |
| 11:23.54 | the-golem | hehe |
| 11:24.02 | Pkekyo | is there forums specially for the ptr? |
| 11:24.36 | elusif | this place has dell xps and most of the machine won't even allow me to put my addons in the wow directly and if i was able to i'm pretty sure they're be wiped automatically when it shuts down |
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| 11:24.54 | elusif | also i need to spend two hours installing the patch on each machine :( |
| 11:25.13 | elusif | the Corsair Flash Voyager GT, 8GB USB2.0, 27/34MB sec w/r speed, ReadyBoost, SLC is 150 eurodullorz |
| 11:25.25 | the-golem | hrm |
| 11:25.36 | the-golem | access time might be a bit slowed |
| 11:25.40 | elusif | but i could get Corsair Flash Voyager 8GB USB2.0, 16/33MB sec writing and reading speed for 75e |
| 11:25.47 | the-golem | although |
| 11:25.49 | the-golem | thats crazy! |
| 11:25.50 | elusif | sux :( |
| 11:25.54 | elusif | lol |
| 11:25.59 | elusif | what's crazy? |
| 11:26.02 | the-golem | 8G |
| 11:26.12 | elusif | price? |
| 11:26.19 | the-golem | i'd put my windows itself on a USB drive |
| 11:26.20 | Orionshock | woot, first t4 piece :D |
| 11:26.27 | the-golem | elusif: no the size |
| 11:26.30 | the-golem | Orionshock: grats |
| 11:26.38 | elusif | my wow dir on my pc is 7.50gb |
| 11:26.42 | the-golem | i myself, was screwed by chess again |
| 11:27.09 | the-golem | elusif: technically flash is fastest memory around .. |
| 11:27.20 | the-golem | i dont see why it would be any slower than an external HDD |
| 11:27.28 | elusif | cool |
| 11:27.30 | the-golem | so it might work |
| 11:27.33 | elusif | and which model? |
| 11:27.36 | elusif | Corsair Flash Voyager 8GB USB2.0, 16/33MB sec writing and reading speed |
| 11:27.44 | the-golem | ... |
| 11:27.45 | elusif | or the quicker Corsair Flash Voyager GT, 8GB USB2.0, 27/34MB sec w/r speed, ReadyBoost, SLC is 150 eurodullorz |
| 11:27.45 | elusif | <the-golem> hrm |
| 11:27.49 | elusif | twice the price |
| 11:28.07 | elusif | i will be using it after i find a new flat anyways like |
| 11:28.17 | the-golem | that seems really slow to me ... because IDE is 100/133 ... |
| 11:29.02 | the-golem | elusif: for that price, you might wanna look into a larger external HDD .. but they might *see that* |
| 11:29.02 | nevcairiel | usb2.0 is limited to what .. ~45mb |
| 11:29.28 | elusif | ya |
| 11:29.36 | elusif | so if it can be run off an extrnal hd |
| 11:29.37 | elusif | t |
| 11:29.47 | elusif | there's not much in the difference from 33 to 45 |
| 11:30.22 | elusif | would really like to go with a usb pen though for putting portable firefox and portable gaim on |
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| 11:31.15 | the-golem | yeah |
| 11:31.23 | the-golem | hmmm |
| 11:31.31 | the-golem | well |
| 11:31.51 | the-golem | some PCs offer external sata connections, but i doubt dell machines are that cool |
| 11:32.18 | elusif | ya |
| 11:32.23 | elusif | they're last generation xps |
| 11:32.34 | elusif | have to pay 4 euros and hour for the new ones! |
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| 11:36.32 | the-golem | eww |
| 11:36.55 | the-golem | elusif: new solution: save yer monies an dont play wow :P |
| 11:40.21 | elusif | never! |
| 11:40.34 | elusif | i've no idea how long it's going to take to find a flat |
| 11:40.39 | snurre | thats teh spirit, screw wow :p |
| 11:41.08 | elusif | i'm on a limited budget and most places want single felames, or professions and don't take students |
| 11:41.30 | the-golem | ouch |
| 11:41.33 | elusif | also they don't accepted rent allowance because it means theirs a record of the letting and they can't scan the tax man |
| 11:41.34 | elusif | :) |
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| 11:41.55 | elusif | government pay for my education and accomodation :) |
| 11:41.59 | the-golem | yeah |
| 11:42.06 | the-golem | damn those places that want single females |
| 11:42.12 | the-golem | perverts :P |
| 11:42.13 | elusif | single white female |
| 11:42.17 | elusif | ya |
| 11:42.20 | the-golem | LMAO |
| 11:42.36 | |Stan| | worst shadowpriest ever: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zirkel+des+Cenarius&n=Caladiel |
| 11:42.49 | elusif | well they won't be laughing when she starts murdering people and stealing the landlords boyfrind! |
| 11:42.55 | elusif | anyone got a level 29 rogue? |
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| 11:45.07 | vrak | gn |
| 11:45.11 | vrak | geh |
| 11:45.32 | Nefarion | Official proof people will bitch about anything: half the damned pages on the General section of the forums are about name changing. |
| 11:46.19 | the-golem | whos a PC junky here? |
| 11:46.35 | the-golem | Nefarion: name changing? |
| 11:46.49 | Nefarion | Blizz introduced paid name changing |
| 11:46.54 | Nefarion | $10 buys you a new char name |
| 11:46.54 | the-golem | ooooooh |
| 11:46.57 | the-golem | cool |
| 11:47.13 | the-golem | thats cool |
| 11:47.23 | the-golem | cuz sometimes you cant think of a good name |
| 11:47.30 | the-golem | and end up with something like |
| 11:47.36 | the-golem | "MustardPoo" |
| 11:47.48 | the-golem | ( i kid you not, someone in my guild has that name ) |
| 11:47.57 | Nefarion | hey some of the best and most famous names come from lack of creativity |
| 11:48.06 | Nefarion | Leery, BBQDIPPINSAUCE (see: WC3), etc |
| 11:48.09 | the-golem | i dont see how that would be a bad thing |
| 11:48.11 | Nefarion | Leeroy* |
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| 11:51.29 | TNSe | not a bad thing? |
| 11:51.35 | TNSe | scammers changing names all the time? :P |
| 11:51.38 | TNSe | guildwhore |
| 11:51.40 | TNSe | s |
| 11:51.40 | TNSe | etc |
| 11:51.50 | Nefarion | I'm thinking there'll be a way to counter that |
| 11:51.56 | evl | Yes |
| 11:51.59 | evl | like flamethrowers |
| 11:52.03 | evl | or dolphin cannons |
| 11:52.11 | Nefarion | with GM name switching, before this shit, the new names would appear on friends and ingore lists automatically |
| 11:52.19 | Nefarion | or so i've been told |
| 11:53.26 | Nefarion | IMO they should introduce things like account banning for guild leaders anyway |
| 11:53.50 | nevcairiel | meh any serious guild will recognize people like that |
| 11:54.14 | the-golem | Nefarion: if you change your name with the paid, it wont update? |
| 11:54.24 | the-golem | friend/ignore lists? |
| 11:54.24 | Nefarion | Mr. BoredWithLife who sucks at WoW and instead of raiding spends all his time leveling has 7 70s and can now trick us into thinking he's serious about each character, one after another, and scam 7 times. |
| 11:54.49 | Nefarion | I don't know about the new system, the-golem |
| 11:54.53 | nevcairiel | people could do that before? |
| 11:55.05 | nevcairiel | you would never know which chars are the same account |
| 11:55.12 | Nefarion | there's no way to tell ift they're the same person |
| 11:55.22 | dreamss | is there a cooldown? |
| 11:55.22 | Wobin | I'd like something like that history page |
| 11:55.24 | dreamss | on it |
| 11:55.28 | Nefarion | any guild who gets scammed that often prolly deserves it but still |
| 11:55.30 | Wobin | where you could see what guilds the person went through |
| 11:55.37 | Nefarion | likely, dreamss |
| 11:55.38 | Wobin | But instead, you could see what names they went through |
| 11:55.38 | dreamss | u can allways do that guild history thing |
| 11:55.45 | dreamss | seee how new teh char is |
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| 11:57.30 | TNSe | Nefarion, my server has 3 people like that. |
| 11:57.44 | Nefarion | they're everywhere |
| 11:57.54 | TNSe | I swear one of them buys accounts on ebay |
| 11:57.57 | TNSe | just to scam people |
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| 11:58.01 | TNSe | he doesn't earn anything on it |
| 11:58.05 | TNSe | he just scams to scam |
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| 11:58.15 | TNSe | he gets off on it nothing else |
| 11:58.22 | Orionshock | where does the shade of aran trash start? |
| 11:58.33 | Nefarion | i gotta say most of the time people deserve to be scammed for being as thick as they are with it, but sometimes it's just plain wrong >> |
| 11:58.42 | TNSe | right after curatr Orionshock |
| 11:58.55 | Wobin | Orionshock: From the ramp down from Curator |
| 11:58.56 | Orionshock | why am i not getting incubator bars then ? |
| 11:59.17 | Orionshock | >.> same named mobs |
| 11:59.20 | Orionshock | ^.^ |
| 11:59.29 | TNSe | 2 hour respawn |
| 11:59.36 | TNSe | and it may not show any respawns >1hr |
| 11:59.38 | Nefarion | TNSe, remember there are some people who seem to sit at their computer with a box of tissues and lotion offing to the fact that they have purples, or can beat a greyed player in world PvP. Cheaters never see things the same and hollow victory is victory nontheless for some, as wrong as it seems to me. |
| 11:59.54 | Orionshock | good point TNSe |
| 12:00.05 | TNSe | and renamed chars itches me places I dont like to itch Nefarion :P |
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| 12:00.13 | Nefarion | haha |
| 12:01.00 | Orionshock | ppl off'n to purples need to go to rehab |
| 12:01.06 | TNSe | heh |
| 12:01.11 | TNSe | guildwhores |
| 12:01.22 | Nefarion | "Blizzard Entertainment is looking for an exceptionally skilled lead 3D character artist for a team focused on next-generation massively multiplayer online games." World of Starcraft or WoW2? =) |
| 12:01.31 | Nefarion | http://blizzard.com/jobopp/art-lead-3d-character-artist.shtml |
| 12:01.32 | Orionshock | hard core raider is one thing, off'n to it is quite another |
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| 12:04.04 | TNSe | lol |
| 12:04.16 | TNSe | I have about 4000 mageweave >_< |
| 12:04.35 | TNSe | my mage is lvl 46 |
| 12:04.37 | TNSe | gief 50 |
| 12:04.58 | Nefarion | Nwes: Blizzard doesn't pay their developers, server fees, internet connection fees, GMs, internal testers, website fees, and other employees. 100% of their income is profit. Proof: The logic in this thread is just too much to deny: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2647304708&sid=1 . |
| 12:05.05 | Nefarion | I swear, some people |
| 12:09.00 | dreamss | infrastucture is gotta be expencive |
| 12:09.19 | dreamss | they prolly went up 100 times in size since launch |
| 12:09.28 | Nefarion | mhmm |
| 12:09.49 | Nefarion | I remember them bitching they can't increase bag size 'cause of the data storage issues with some servers, now look where they're at. |
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| 12:13.28 | evl | Anyone know waht the filter option recipientPVP means in parserlib? |
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| 12:14.11 | many | y'know |
| 12:14.16 | many | blizz is even exempted from taxes |
| 12:14.39 | Nefarion | omg no nerf |
| 12:14.41 | Nefarion | lol |
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| 12:15.54 | Nefarion | is ADDON_LOADED and VARIABLES_LOADED fired for LOD addon loaded post-load-process? |
| 12:16.06 | Orionshock | addon loaded i think |
| 12:16.12 | Nefarion | not variables at all? |
| 12:16.13 | Orionshock | but Var_Loaded only fires once IIRC |
| 12:16.29 | Orionshock | Vars Loaded means ALL Vars - LoD addons included |
| 12:16.37 | Nefarion | oh right |
| 12:16.41 | Orionshock | Vars_loaded has no args,so everything gets loaded |
| 12:16.47 | cladhaire | Nefarion: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2647304708&postId=25734120952&sid=1#15 |
| 12:16.48 | Nefarion | i forgot it executes the whole folder |
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| 12:17.26 | Nefarion | I saw that cladhaire |
| 12:17.35 | Nefarion | tl;dr lol |
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| 12:19.54 | nevcairiel | i try to just not read official forums anymore |
| 12:19.56 | nevcairiel | its pointless |
| 12:20.00 | Orionshock | new service? |
| 12:20.04 | Orionshock | the name change thing? |
| 12:20.31 | Nefarion | yeah new |
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| 12:22.41 | Nefarion | will LoadAddOn return true if the addon was already loaded prior to the call, or nil? |
| 12:22.53 | Nefarion | the first return, loaded |
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| 12:24.11 | elusif | where can i download the latest patch 2.0.10? |
| 12:24.26 | Wobin | ?? |
| 12:24.28 | elusif | mmo-champion don't seem to have any patches lsited for download anymore :( |
| 12:24.35 | nevcairiel | who would want 2.0.10? |
| 12:24.44 | elusif | wow on this pc :( |
| 12:24.48 | elusif | what's the latest? |
| 12:24.53 | nevcairiel | 2.2.3 |
| 12:25.03 | elusif | can i download that alone |
| 12:25.10 | cladhaire | open wow? |
| 12:25.12 | elusif | or do i have to do all the other patches first? |
| 12:25.13 | cladhaire | download patch |
| 12:25.13 | cladhaire | ??? |
| 12:25.14 | cladhaire | profit? |
| 12:25.17 | nevcairiel | at least 2.2.0 is out there |
| 12:25.24 | nevcairiel | as full patch |
| 12:25.31 | elusif | sorry it's downloading 2.0.0 |
| 12:25.38 | elusif | but really slowly |
| 12:25.46 | cladhaire | well, 2.0.0 is an enormous patch |
| 12:25.52 | elusif | i got the other patches much quicker from wow-champion before |
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| 12:26.30 | Pkekyo | I can't help but notice that 60% of my vocabulary lately has been dominated by Portal quotes >.< |
| 12:26.42 | Pkekyo | netsplit? |
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| 12:27.12 | ramoz | elusif: if you install TBc |
| 12:27.25 | ramoz | you'll automagically patch to 2.0.0 |
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| 12:27.48 | ramoz | also, after installing TBC you can download full 2.2.0 patch |
| 12:28.03 | elusif | i think it has tbc |
| 12:28.17 | elusif | net cafes sux! |
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| 12:28.22 | elusif | need a 8gb usb pen |
| 12:28.38 | Pkekyo | isn't tbc 2.0.3 or something? |
| 12:28.38 | Pkekyo | 2.0.0 was the pre-tbc patch |
| 12:29.18 | Orionshock | when i reinstalled yesterday - it was 1.11 -> 2.0.0 -> 2.2.0 -> 2.2.3? |
| 12:29.30 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.37 | Orionshock | hey cladhaire btw - you added a " . " at the end of your wiki link & it puked on it when clicked :D |
| 12:35.11 | cladhaire | oh |
| 12:35.11 | cladhaire | lol |
| 12:35.13 | cladhaire | *shruGG* |
| 12:35.14 | cladhaire | its a period |
| 12:35.30 | [Ammo] | wiki ftl |
| 12:36.01 | ramoz | Orionshock: you didnt install tbc? |
| 12:36.18 | Orionshock | Origional - > TBC install -> patches |
| 12:36.29 | ramoz | and then you had to get 1.11? |
| 12:36.39 | ramoz | i reinstalled a couple of weeks ago |
| 12:36.41 | Orionshock | 1.11 was the origional install |
| 12:36.45 | Orionshock | my origional |
| 12:36.59 | ramoz | Original -> TBC -> 2.2.0 -> 2.2.3 |
| 12:37.06 | Fisker- | Sooo |
| 12:37.24 | Fisker- | I wonder when [Ammo] will make an addon to keep track of friend/ignore lists with the new character rename stuff |
| 12:37.43 | Orionshock | but TBC will patch any and all retail versions |
| 12:39.52 | ramoz | also Pkekyo, when you install TBC you get down to 2.0.0, and you had to patch to 2.0.3 again (even tho vanilla wow was at 2.0.3 at that point) |
| 12:40.13 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: when someone gets renamed, your friend and ignore lists update with it |
| 12:40.54 | Wobin | ah |
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| 12:40.58 | Wobin | but what if they're on neither |
| 12:41.12 | nevcairiel | then whats your problem? |
| 12:41.13 | Wobin | ie, you've -heard- about their shenanigans |
| 12:41.18 | Wobin | and you're wary of them |
| 12:41.24 | Wobin | but you don't want to waste space on your ignore list |
| 12:41.27 | Wobin | cause you know them |
| 12:41.33 | Wobin | or whatever |
| 12:42.06 | Pkekyo | ckknight_: here? |
| 12:42.08 | Wobin | ie, you've heard AbrahamLincoln is a guild cheat, who ninjas stuff |
| 12:42.10 | [Ammo] | then you're fucked |
| 12:42.18 | Pkekyo | ramoz: might be, I never reinstalled :) |
| 12:42.20 | Wobin | and you say: "Well, they're never getting into -my- guild!" |
| 12:42.29 | Orionshock | ramoz: no - install the regular game, install TBC, then patch - it'll go from 2.0 to 2.2 |
| 12:42.35 | Wobin | But then they rename themselves ThomasJefferson |
| 12:42.40 | Orionshock | 1 500~mb patch |
| 12:42.48 | Wobin | But yeah, you're fucked |
| 12:42.55 | ramoz | Orionshock: yes, but i was talking about when tbc was launched :O |
| 12:42.57 | Fisker- | nevcairiel that's the point |
| 12:42.58 | Wobin | which is why there should be some history lookup somewhere |
| 12:43.01 | Orionshock | ya |
| 12:43.03 | Fisker- | If you don't know who was updated |
| 12:43.05 | Pkekyo | ~seen ckknight_ |
| 12:43.08 | purl | ckknight_ is currently on #wowi-lounge (3h 26m 42s) #wowace (3h 26m 42s), last said: 'hey Pkekyo '. |
| 12:43.08 | Fisker- | an addon could fix it |
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| 12:43.19 | Pkekyo | does ckk's underscore mean he's not here? |
| 12:43.30 | Wobin | it means he's idle for the last 3hours |
| 12:43.34 | Pkekyo | ~seen ckknight |
| 12:43.35 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 34m 10s ago, saying: 'Daviesh?'. |
| 12:43.35 | Wobin | cause you didn't respond |
| 12:43.36 | Wobin | and broke his heart |
| 12:43.40 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:43.42 | Fisker- | and murdered him |
| 12:43.50 | Chompers | RAPE |
| 12:43.51 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.55 | Josh_Borke | hola |
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| 12:49.40 | Nefarion | anyone know a good source for *cough* free *cough* music? |
| 12:49.57 | Nefarion | other than a program or torrent? |
| 12:50.33 | Hjalte | Soulseek is good for finding music other than what is the most popular and for discussing music also :) |
| 12:51.30 | Nefarion | yeah i'm looking to download some more than likely copyrighted music =P |
| 12:51.34 | Fisker- | in b4 stealing isn't free |
| 12:51.40 | Nefarion | well, you know what i meant--copyright enforced |
| 12:51.55 | Nefarion | lol Fisker- |
| 12:52.34 | Hjalte | Nefarion: There's also the google search machines searching google for mp3 links and such |
| 12:53.23 | Nefarion | those aren't reliable =X they always ask me to pay! |
| 12:54.58 | Nefarion | anyone by chance have a U2 album they can zip up? ^^ |
| 12:57.43 | Hjalte | I'm not sure this channel is the right place to ask, you might want to have the admins blessings at least :) |
| 12:58.30 | Nefarion | yeah probably |
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| 13:02.23 | Pkekyo | anyone here good with macros? :< |
| 13:03.06 | Industrial | Pkekyo: sup |
| 13:03.09 | Nefarion | i *may* be able to help |
| 13:03.42 | Pkekyo | can you make me a macro that triggers the headless horseman helm's laugh when I charge? :> |
| 13:04.00 | Nefarion | Is it a "Use:" tag of the item? |
| 13:04.32 | Pkekyo | nah, the use function is hidden |
| 13:04.44 | nevcairiel | but it does happen when you use it? |
| 13:04.46 | Nefarion | just a sound? |
| 13:04.48 | nevcairiel | like, right click |
| 13:05.13 | Pkekyo | right click = insane laughter |
| 13:05.21 | Nefarion | can you link the item? |
| 13:05.27 | nevcairiel | just try /use 1 |
| 13:05.30 | nevcairiel | in the macro |
| 13:05.53 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.58 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.07 | Nefarion | exact names of both should work |
| 13:06.27 | the-golem | not like this matters, but arent /cast and /use interchangable? |
| 13:06.32 | Nefarion | no |
| 13:06.38 | Nefarion | use = item, cast = spell |
| 13:06.39 | nevcairiel | well, /use 1 should work too |
| 13:06.45 | the-golem | hmmmm |
| 13:06.47 | Nefarion | yeah, use 1 should work |
| 13:06.47 | nevcairiel | assuming that 1 is the first slot, which is head |
| 13:07.08 | Pkekyo | soeh... |
| 13:07.08 | Pkekyo | /use The Horseman's Helm |
| 13:07.08 | Pkekyo | /cast Charge |
| 13:07.08 | Pkekyo | ? |
| 13:07.11 | Nefarion | yeah |
| 13:07.25 | Nefarion | if that doesn't work you'll need to dig up a sound file =X |
| 13:07.34 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 13:07.49 | Pkekyo | what will happen if I make that macro and I don't have the helmet equipped? |
| 13:07.57 | nevcairiel | it'll fail |
| 13:08.03 | Orionshock | no |
| 13:08.05 | Pkekyo | so...won't cast charge? |
| 13:08.07 | Orionshock | should still charge |
| 13:08.08 | nevcairiel | put the /cast first |
| 13:08.25 | Nefarion | the /use should fail, that's it |
| 13:08.31 | Nefarion | it'll work just fine on charge |
| 13:08.37 | the-golem | HOLY CRAP |
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| 13:09.13 | the-golem | hunters can shoot arrows in melee now :P |
| 13:09.14 | Pkekyo | and if the charge spell is not available it'll do what? |
| 13:09.21 | Nefarion | nothing at all |
| 13:09.31 | the-golem | i stab u with my arrow! |
| 13:09.33 | Nefarion | umm? |
| 13:09.44 | Nefarion | if you're talking about deadzone removal, no they can't |
| 13:09.53 | the-golem | im talking about |
| 13:09.54 | Pkekyo | hmm....it played the audio when charge is unavailable...dunno if it will charge yet though |
| 13:09.57 | Pkekyo | [AV que] |
| 13:10.04 | Fisker- | stay a while and listen nevcairiel |
| 13:10.06 | the-golem | ranged attacks have a 1 yard minimum |
| 13:10.07 | Fisker- | or i'll cut you up |
| 13:10.16 | Nefarion | i believe that's a glitch the-golem |
| 13:10.26 | Nefarion | i saw the screens on the PTR too |
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| 13:10.36 | Nefarion | it's meant to be 5+ yd |
| 13:10.44 | Pkekyo | sweet, I got 73 rage off -one- meelee crit |
| 13:10.48 | the-golem | Nefarion: not according to the blue text on mmo-champion |
| 13:11.00 | Nefarion | link? |
| 13:11.10 | Nefarion | i doubt they're letting true point-blank range |
| 13:11.16 | the-golem | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 13:11.20 | the-golem | just scroll down a tick |
| 13:11.35 | Nefarion | you know, i like being lazy, and people like you make it hard! =P |
| 13:11.46 | nevcairiel | thats on mmo is just taken from the tooltips |
| 13:11.54 | nevcairiel | no blue post confirming that its staying that way |
| 13:12.12 | the-golem | hrm |
| 13:12.15 | the-golem | well |
| 13:12.16 | Nefarion | Ahem "Quote from Blizzard staff" |
| 13:12.20 | Nefarion | it's a blue post |
| 13:12.24 | Pkekyo | Nefarion/nevcariel/Orionshock: thanks, macro works :) |
| 13:12.26 | Nefarion | i'm shocked |
| 13:12.35 | the-golem | but theres no link to it, so .. :-/ |
| 13:12.42 | nevcairiel | its nowhere confirmed in blue |
| 13:12.51 | Pkekyo | now I've got to make one for intercept as well ^^ |
| 13:12.54 | nevcairiel | only on mmo, and hell, i can create blue quotes on my page |
| 13:13.12 | the-golem | usually they have source links |
| 13:13.23 | nevcairiel | like i said, only tooltip screenshots |
| 13:13.25 | Fisker- | already confirmed a bug as well apparently |
| 13:13.28 | Nefarion | well i'm pretty sure it's considered a trusted source but i'm searching for a forum post right now myself |
| 13:13.38 | Fisker- | but it's supposed to be 4 yards shoot and 5 yards melee |
| 13:13.39 | nevcairiel | and everyone, even hunters, believe that being able to melee and range at the same time is a glitch |
| 13:13.54 | Fisker- | that however is not |
| 13:14.38 | nevcairiel | there is no point speculating about PTR, it'll change in the next update, and the QQers will start again |
| 13:15.35 | Nefarion | well i know the intended changes as of.....right before the ptr went live was melee=1-5, ranged=[5-6]+ |
| 13:15.36 | the-golem | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/s3/battle_staff.jpg ... |
| 13:15.38 | the-golem | lol |
| 13:15.48 | the-golem | its darth mauls lightesaber |
| 13:15.53 | the-golem | lightsaber* |
| 13:15.58 | Nefarion | meh |
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| 13:16.16 | Pkekyo | will the s3 arena gear cost what the s2 arena gear cost pre-patch? |
| 13:16.28 | Fisker- | They already said that they'll remove the deadzone |
| 13:16.55 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:17.05 | Pkekyo | 1-41 yard range ftw |
| 13:17.10 | Nefarion | if they seriously intend to make ranged attacks point-blank, the devs don't understand the hunter class at all |
| 13:17.31 | nevcairiel | but removing deadzone != 1y minrange |
| 13:17.34 | Fisker- | removing the deazone doesn't nessecarily mean 1-41 yard though |
| 13:17.36 | Nefarion | removing the deadzone is a so-so change. but chancing it to 1+ is retarded. |
| 13:17.44 | Nefarion | i know |
| 13:17.53 | Pkekyo | meh, I regret not having flurry in my pvp specc :< |
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| 13:18.18 | Nefarion | not only does is it totally counterintuitive to the class mechanics, but you know we'll see a shitload more huntards |
| 13:18.22 | Nefarion | if it goes live |
| 13:18.43 | nevcairiel | i could care less about more hunters |
| 13:18.56 | Fisker- | i want paladin healing buffs |
| 13:19.09 | Fisker- | seems like Blizzard is just following the QQ sometimes |
| 13:19.57 | Fisker- | Blizzard should make it possible to track self-heals cast by other healers |
| 13:19.58 | Nefarion | no they're following Kalgan lol |
| 13:20.02 | Fisker- | and the QQ would definitely stop |
| 13:20.12 | Fisker- | cause meterwhoring seems to be the only interest for people |
| 13:20.21 | Nefarion | "lokcs r lyk 2 hrd fur me 2 beet i gunnuh nerf em kk" |
| 13:20.22 | the-golem | hehe |
| 13:20.30 | the-golem | we've banned posting meters in raid |
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| 13:20.36 | Fisker- | and priests+druids are a bit lower on the meter because their heals are counted as selfheal |
| 13:20.38 | Fisker- | but ours are not |
| 13:20.50 | Fisker- | so we look like the greatest healars in the world |
| 13:20.57 | nevcairiel | i beat palas already without my self-heals couting |
| 13:21.00 | Nefarion | yeah it's pretty annoying. go inflate your ego elsewhere imo. |
| 13:21.25 | Fisker- | yeah nevcairiel |
| 13:21.29 | Fisker- | i'm also getten beaten now |
| 13:21.38 | Fisker- | when we began raiding i was constantly on top |
| 13:21.43 | Fisker- | but now i'm in the middle |
| 13:21.55 | Nefarion | gear progression is a myth? |
| 13:22.02 | Nefarion | =P |
| 13:22.09 | Fisker- | i think most of it was skills |
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| 13:25.03 | the-golem | our pallys usually get the priest or druid healing drops because the plate ones *never* drop |
| 13:25.20 | the-golem | after the priest or druid has them ofc |
| 13:26.49 | Paradox | anyone know of a mod that shows procs (of my choosing) in a very easily detectable way? |
| 13:27.14 | harldephin | good question.. |
| 13:27.33 | Nefarion | i've not seen one but that's a good idea.. |
| 13:28.27 | harldephin | Paradox: maybe something like that?: .. http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3275 |
| 13:29.47 | Paradox | doesn't that just count procs |
| 13:31.19 | Nefarion | Umm, does Cartographer not have a function to return all visible notes on the current shown map? |
| 13:31.36 | Nefarion | other than Cartographer_Notes:GetNearbyNote() and using a huge radius? |
| 13:31.51 | Nefarion | ^ err, the iterate one ^ |
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| 13:34.50 | Hjalte | Nefarion: There's an addon called Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 13:35.06 | Hjalte | Nefarion: It's only on the svn though, not files.wowace.com |
| 13:35.57 | Nefarion | thanks |
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| 13:42.49 | Zhinjio | the-golem: I finally (after about 30 runs) got the pally legs to drop in kara tonigth |
| 13:43.30 | Zhinjio | and I was wearing mail/leather healing shoulders/BP for a long time until I finally got those drops too |
| 13:43.33 | the-golem | Zhinjio: awesome |
| 13:43.37 | Zhinjio | its taken alot of damn runs though |
| 13:43.42 | the-golem | yeah |
| 13:44.03 | Zhinjio | further complicated by the fact that I'm tanking now, and don't get first dibs on any healing gear |
| 13:44.07 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 13:44.15 | the-golem | i've only got like 10 runs under my belt :-( |
| 13:44.24 | the-golem | but i have everything i can get, except shit from chess |
| 13:44.33 | the-golem | and umm |
| 13:44.35 | Zhinjio | well, chess drops the legs. *grin* |
| 13:44.38 | the-golem | spite/bane |
| 13:44.51 | Zhinjio | nightbane drops some great tanking gear. |
| 13:44.54 | the-golem | yeah |
| 13:45.02 | the-golem | i need the bp something hardcore |
| 13:45.03 | Zhinjio | got the shield from him a few weeks ago |
| 13:45.09 | the-golem | oooooooh |
| 13:45.11 | deltron | nightbane is going to be a joke after that fear nerf |
| 13:45.19 | the-golem | LOL |
| 13:45.23 | nevcairiel | nightbane was a joke before |
| 13:45.30 | the-golem | deltron: you mean, the priest BUFF? |
| 13:45.34 | Zhinjio | well, I can't tank him right now without a dwarf priest. |
| 13:45.45 | nevcairiel | l2warrior and l2stancedance |
| 13:45.45 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:45.46 | the-golem | and/or draenei |
| 13:45.47 | ramoz | (or dranei) |
| 13:45.54 | dreamss | heh, we 9manned nightbane the other day |
| 13:45.54 | Zhinjio | but they're upping the cooldown to 3 minutes. |
| 13:45.56 | dreamss | on kz gear |
| 13:45.57 | dreamss | lol |
| 13:46.06 | Zhinjio | so unless you've got... like, 4 priests, it'll be useless. |
| 13:46.09 | dreamss | one of our healer died right off the bat |
| 13:46.11 | deltron | the-golem: no, I mean that the NPC's are going to keep their target after their target gets feared |
| 13:46.14 | the-golem | Zhinjio: but it lasts 3 minutes? |
| 13:46.18 | nevcairiel | get a warrior tank, and its a non-issue |
| 13:46.19 | Zhinjio | OH?!?!?? |
| 13:46.23 | Zhinjio | wait. |
| 13:46.27 | nevcairiel | itl asts 3minutes, but only 1 charge |
| 13:46.34 | the-golem | wtf |
| 13:46.42 | Zhinjio | yeah, nightbane fears every 30-45 seconds, I thought. |
| 13:46.43 | the-golem | how often dose he fear? |
| 13:46.43 | deltron | my buddy pally tanks all of karazhan |
| 13:46.47 | Zhinjio | but... if he doesn't drop aggro.... |
| 13:46.50 | Zhinjio | then it doesn't matter. |
| 13:46.55 | the-golem | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.03 | the-golem | guess i l2stancedance |
| 13:47.04 | Zhinjio | aw hell. then it doesn't matter at all. |
| 13:47.05 | nevcairiel | he will still run around and flame and cleave everything |
| 13:47.07 | dreamss | heh |
| 13:47.12 | Zhinjio | oh. |
| 13:47.14 | the-golem | i just need my fear timer, and im good |
| 13:47.17 | dreamss | warrior has fearbreak every 45secs |
| 13:47.18 | Zhinjio | well yeah. then I won't be able to tank him. |
| 13:47.23 | dreamss | and tremor totems? |
| 13:47.24 | harldephin | i wonder if it would be possible somehow to talk to an NPC without targeting it directly. |
| 13:47.24 | dreamss | lol |
| 13:47.29 | nevcairiel | he'll still attack you |
| 13:47.35 | nevcairiel | but when you run around, he'll follow |
| 13:47.39 | Zhinjio | right |
| 13:47.40 | nevcairiel | and that might be bad =P |
| 13:47.42 | Zhinjio | I gotcha. |
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| 13:47.51 | dreamss | breaths on the raid if tank gets feared there |
| 13:47.52 | dreamss | heh |
| 13:47.54 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.57 | deltron | ^^ |
| 13:47.59 | Zhinjio | if... hmm. |
| 13:48.10 | nevcairiel | just get a warrior tank and l2zerker |
| 13:48.12 | Zhinjio | the other effect he does if people get too far away from him too. |
| 13:48.27 | Zhinjio | if I get feared the other direction (ideally) they'll have to follow me or start getting pummelled by that. |
| 13:48.34 | deltron | we have like 3 prot warriors in my guild |
| 13:48.43 | deltron | but we just run kara on alts though |
| 13:48.44 | the-golem | deltron: we have like, 2 |
| 13:48.54 | the-golem | me and kizzal the "main tank" |
| 13:48.58 | Zhinjio | yeah, we've got several in training right now. we have relaly only one good one. |
| 13:49.01 | dreamss | we have 1 |
| 13:49.02 | dreamss | lol |
| 13:49.11 | nevcairiel | we have 3 prot warriors, thats about all you need for endgame raiding |
| 13:49.16 | the-golem | altho i've got just as much shit as he does now, minus kings /cry |
| 13:49.20 | deltron | nevcairiel: yep |
| 13:49.23 | Zhinjio | I tanked prince for the first time tonight. |
| 13:49.28 | nevcairiel | could prolly even do with 2 |
| 13:49.29 | Zhinjio | that was a trip. |
| 13:49.36 | dreamss | u need good heal spec of each class imo |
| 13:49.38 | deltron | i'd like to get a pally tank |
| 13:49.39 | Zhinjio | pally aggro ftw. |
| 13:49.43 | dreamss | totems own in pve |
| 13:49.46 | the-golem | yeah |
| 13:49.47 | dreamss | more than pvp |
| 13:49.48 | Zhinjio | we got to drop salv on everyone for the first time. |
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| 13:50.01 | Zhinjio | we usually have to keep salv up on pretty much everyone |
| 13:50.22 | the-golem | Zhinjio: i tanked illhoof for the first time w/o a OT |
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| 13:50.28 | Zhinjio | at the end of the fight, I was about 100k ahead of everyone else on threat. |
| 13:50.33 | the-golem | rather |
| 13:50.38 | the-golem | illhoof and his little pet |
| 13:50.41 | Zhinjio | ooo. were you holding the imp too? |
| 13:50.51 | Zhinjio | aha. |
| 13:50.52 | the-golem | usually we have an OT for the imp |
| 13:51.05 | Zhinjio | I usually OT that and consecrate next to the portals to keep the imp population on me. |
| 13:51.11 | Zhinjio | and tank his helper |
| 13:51.30 | deltron | heh when I played my tankadin, I tanked both attumen and midnight |
| 13:51.32 | the-golem | we usually have 2 warlocks for the imps, they just seeds |
| 13:51.52 | Zhinjio | yeah, I did that tuesday as well. that was whacked. My OT couldn't get aggro off me. |
| 13:51.55 | the-golem | raid leaders are over cautious |
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| 13:52.08 | Zhinjio | yeah, one lock is good enough |
| 13:52.17 | Zhinjio | and we've done it without any, but thats tougher. |
| 13:52.32 | Zhinjio | 2 good mages can AoE every once in awhile and torch 'em all down |
| 13:52.53 | the-golem | one night we almost 9 man prince w/ 2 healers .. but they INSIST we need 3 for attumen |
| 13:52.58 | the-golem | silly leaders |
| 13:53.03 | Zhinjio | huh |
| 13:53.04 | MoonWolf | hardly |
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| 13:53.14 | MoonWolf | 2 is fine |
| 13:53.17 | the-golem | i know |
| 13:53.19 | Zhinjio | yeah, thats silly. 2 is fine. |
| 13:53.31 | MoonWolf | did attumen suddenly gain another add or something ? |
| 13:53.35 | the-golem | no |
| 13:53.37 | the-golem | its just |
| 13:53.40 | MoonWolf | then 2 iis fine. |
| 13:53.42 | Zhinjio | just his horse |
| 13:53.43 | the-golem | they did it that way since they started |
| 13:53.53 | the-golem | and are stuck in they ways |
| 13:53.58 | Zhinjio | and my guildie got the reins a couple weeks ago. that was pretty darn cool. |
| 13:54.03 | the-golem | niiiice |
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| 13:54.24 | the-golem | we got Gruul down to like 5% 3 or 5 times |
| 13:54.29 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 13:54.29 | Zhinjio | we were trynig to figure out how many people on our server had 'em. but I've not seen 'em around. |
| 13:54.34 | MoonWolf | is he out growing the tanks ? |
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| 13:54.40 | Chompers | http://www.crysisdemo.com/ |
| 13:54.54 | Fisker- | Chompers ! |
| 13:54.56 | Zhinjio | we're heading to gruul's guild-only for the first time next week |
| 13:54.58 | the-golem | MoonWolf: yeah, dont dps fast enuff |
| 13:55.03 | Zhinjio | finally have enough folks to do it. |
| 13:55.09 | Daemona | files a little slow atm ? |
| 13:55.11 | the-golem | and those hurtful strikes HURT ^^ |
| 13:55.15 | Fisker- | your mother Chompers |
| 13:55.23 | Chompers | haw haw |
| 13:55.32 | Chompers | we all have to wait an extra day! |
| 13:55.43 | MoonWolf | the-golem, that is why they are hurtfull |
| 13:55.47 | Fisker- | noone cares |
| 13:55.49 | Fisker- | Crysis is shit |
| 13:55.51 | the-golem | MoonWolf: lol :-) |
| 13:56.13 | the-golem | wasnt FarCry like, the best game of 2004 or something? |
| 13:56.24 | Zhinjio | bah. time to clean. idle. |
| 13:56.54 | Fisker- | singleplayer might be cool |
| 13:56.58 | Fisker- | but Multiplayer was shit |
| 13:57.03 | Chompers | very |
| 13:57.07 | the-golem | ah |
| 13:57.14 | MoonWolf | i wish they would bug gruul so you could steal growth from him |
| 13:57.23 | MoonWolf | with spellsteal |
| 13:58.05 | the-golem | hehehe |
| 13:58.40 | the-golem | last nights kara, we only had 2 melee, for once |
| 13:59.04 | Azure | MoonWolf: there are some mobs in Karazhan in front of the Chess Event with a similar buff.. once had it stacked to 40% more dmg or something ;) |
| 13:59.07 | the-golem | well |
| 13:59.13 | the-golem | tank + melee dps that is |
| 13:59.20 | dreamss | FarCry was the shit |
| 13:59.27 | MoonWolf | Azure, nice |
| 13:59.50 | Azure | or was it in front of Netherspite.. hm.. well, somewhere in Kara :) |
| 14:00.46 | dreamss | Netherspite/Chess is basicly the same trash |
| 14:00.54 | dreamss | its linked to netherspite tho |
| 14:02.20 | Azure | no idea, i wasn't in Kara for like 2 months |
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| 14:03.10 | dreamss | had to be the eterials(sp) trash, dont remember the stuff before shade being spellsteal able |
| 14:03.39 | Nocts | I learned today you can spellsteal someone's costume |
| 14:03.45 | dreamss | lol |
| 14:03.47 | Azure | hm jup.. ethereal something.. the caster type mobs afair |
| 14:04.11 | Nocts | I'm serious. Like someone's costume? /duel and spellsteal it off. |
| 14:04.12 | Azure | the buff looks like the ice barrier icon, just in white |
| 14:04.30 | dreamss | that be a good way to disguise yourself with your own wand |
| 14:04.35 | deltron | yeah, elemental warding or something on them |
| 14:04.42 | deltron | I purge that personally |
| 14:04.50 | dreamss | goes up to 5times dmg? |
| 14:04.52 | dreamss | i belive |
| 14:05.00 | Nocts | purge > life |
| 14:05.11 | dreamss | we havent had a mage in kz for like 5 months |
| 14:05.12 | dreamss | lol |
| 14:05.19 | deltron | that would suck |
| 14:05.32 | dreamss | it does |
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| 14:06.58 | balstor | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 14:07.00 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@4.178-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21h 23m 38s ago, saying: 'Ellipsis, I beat you to it :p'. |
| 14:07.32 | balstor | new possession bar details: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/0307441/live/49 |
| 14:07.49 | balstor | and http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/0307441/live/48 |
| 14:08.02 | balstor | can't beleive i forgot about that site |
| 14:08.43 | dreamss | possession bar ? |
| 14:09.00 | Nocts | lua patch diffs |
| 14:09.05 | balstor | When you are possessing a target (Priest Mind Control, Eyes of the Beast, using a Steam Tonk, etc), you now get their action bar as your primary action bar rather than having a mini action bar above your normal action bar. |
| 14:09.43 | dreamss | oh nice |
| 14:09.48 | Nocts | I don't remember eyes of the beast giving a different actionbar anyway |
| 14:09.57 | dreamss | chesss control piece :P |
| 14:09.58 | Nocts | Does it? |
| 14:10.08 | balstor | it gives you a petbar right now |
| 14:10.09 | dreamss | dunno, but farsight dosent |
| 14:10.26 | Nocts | Well, farsight isn't a controlling spell. |
| 14:10.26 | kenlyric | farsight isn't mind control. |
| 14:10.41 | balstor | hmm new button template to |
| 14:12.22 | dreamss | so people with pets get 2 extra bars now? |
| 14:12.28 | balstor | no |
| 14:12.32 | dreamss | boo |
| 14:13.04 | dreamss | warlock/hunter pet goes away? |
| 14:13.16 | balstor | but this crap change make ui replacement rough because there needs to be a possession bar addon like a pet bar addon |
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| 14:13.44 | balstor | yhea if you have a pet out you could never summon a nother pet like a tonk |
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| 14:14.05 | balstor | they may change that now, but i haven't seen them say that they were though |
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| 14:14.07 | dreamss | i know MC cap used to just not work |
| 14:14.23 | dreamss | no reason to move it off the petbar heh |
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| 14:14.56 | balstor | off to find food be back l8es |
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| 14:17.40 | Funkeh` | loes |
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| 14:29.44 | Hjalte | I wrote an ingame message to the GM's yesterday and today I received an answer in french. I have never played on french servers :\ |
| 14:30.08 | deltron | lol |
| 14:30.46 | Hjalte | Pre-generated messages for the lose... |
| 14:31.09 | kenlyric | does ark inventory have a fubar button? or will bagfu open ark inventory bag? |
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| 14:35.55 | Nocts | Ark always pissed me off, as a mod. |
| 14:36.07 | Nocts | Every time I sold something the entire area moved, making fast-clicking impossible. |
| 14:36.41 | Funkeh` | lol, of all the things to break in a mouse, how can the right click break and everything else remains fine -_- |
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| 14:42.42 | the-golem | nocts nope, but i've only used EotB on my hunters pet, so the bar never changed |
| 14:43.09 | the-golem | i wasnt even aware that non-tamed pets were considered |
| 14:43.23 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.43 | kenlyric | but now it will become your primary bar. |
| 14:43.46 | the-golem | ah ok |
| 14:43.57 | the-golem | so in that case it shoulnt matter |
| 14:44.39 | the-golem | eyes is usefull for snooping :-) |
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| 14:50.16 | Zhinjio|afk | ok, sound finally wired up properly |
| 14:50.31 | Zhinjio|afk | I didn't realize how disruptive to my desk area getting a laptop would be. |
| 14:50.35 | Zhinjio|afk | not that I'm complaining mind you. |
| 14:51.03 | Zhinjio|afk | its SOOOOooo nice to dual box with the same keybd/mouse. |
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| 14:52.44 | Zhinjio | ~seen Pkekyo |
| 14:52.47 | purl | pkekyo is currently on #wowace (11h 19m 30s). Has said a total of 99 messages. Is idling for 1h 34m 54s, last said: 'meh, I regret not having flurry in my pvp specc :<'. |
| 14:53.13 | Zhinjio | idleboy. did you check out that avi? |
| 14:53.16 | Neebler | ~seen Neebler |
| 14:53.17 | purl | neebler is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 37m 12s) #wowace (1h 37m 12s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Neebler'. |
| 14:53.35 | Neebler | :D |
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| 15:07.01 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: oy |
| 15:07.10 | Pkekyo | no, haven't been at home lol |
| 15:07.20 | Pkekyo | anyone here made torrents before? |
| 15:07.47 | deltron | been like 5-6 years for me :P |
| 15:08.16 | Pkekyo | for some reason, the torrent won't seed |
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| 15:09.52 | Pkekyo | !points 423 |
| 15:09.52 | Xinhuan | 423 arena points require 1568(5s), 1612(3s) and 1666(2s) team rating. |
| 15:10.06 | Pkekyo | !points 250 |
| 15:10.06 | Xinhuan | 250 arena points require 1073(5s), 1228(3s) and 1432(2s) team rating. |
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| 15:15.06 | xyu | Everything has spell haste next patch, another "set" of gear. i wonder how i'm going to fit that in. will it take presidence over crit? |
| 15:15.45 | Josh_Borke | passive spellhaste is so awesome |
| 15:16.44 | xyu | yeah, i'll have to decide which pieces i can fit haste in keeping my hit capped |
| 15:18.27 | Pkekyo | xyu: not to mention armor penetration...meh |
| 15:20.00 | Zhinjio | anyone else using WWS? |
| 15:20.32 | xyu | Will haste be worth it over crit and hit in PvE? well at least over crit, you think? |
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| 15:23.31 | Pkekyo | xyu: in sufficient amounts, I think it to some extent will pass crit |
| 15:23.43 | Pkekyo | there's a reason meelee haste got nerfed so bad! :p |
| 15:23.52 | xyu | hehe |
| 15:24.33 | Pkekyo | imo, flurry is the best warrior dps talent |
| 15:24.59 | Pkekyo | followed by deathwish (not direct damage talents ofc) |
| 15:25.05 | Xinhuan | depends on spec |
| 15:25.12 | Pkekyo | fury |
| 15:25.12 | Xinhuan | some specs are not depedant on crit |
| 15:25.14 | Xinhuan | while some are |
| 15:25.33 | Xinhuan | there are also some trinkets/gear/talents that have effects that proc on crits |
| 15:25.40 | Xinhuan | so its hard to say if haste will be better than crit |
| 15:26.00 | Xinhuan | some classes have spell rotations as well, so haste may actually interfere with it (aka arcane mages) |
| 15:26.24 | Matrix110 | oh noes then the Arcane Mage has to do 1 more scorch if atall:P |
| 15:26.33 | Xinhuan | incorrect |
| 15:26.39 | Mire | xin: any smart mage should be AM spam before 2.3 |
| 15:26.41 | dreamss | spell caster are very limited to GCD |
| 15:26.49 | Xinhuan | you need 18% spellhaste in order to cast an extra scorch |
| 15:27.01 | Xinhuan | if you switch out scorch for improved frostbolt 2.4s |
| 15:27.06 | Xinhuan | then you still need 9% spellhaste |
| 15:27.19 | Matrix110 | yeah so just keep casting your normal rotation with 200ms its fine anyway:P |
| 15:27.24 | Mire | what arcane mage is getting imp frostbolt |
| 15:27.29 | Xinhuan | none |
| 15:27.32 | Mire | exactly |
| 15:27.41 | Xinhuan | i'm just saying you could take out a 1.5s scorch and replace it with a 2.4s frostbolt |
| 15:27.46 | Xinhuan | and that will still require 9% haste |
| 15:27.48 | Xinhuan | for it to work |
| 15:27.52 | Mire | a good arcane mage doesn't waste the mana on the scorch |
| 15:28.00 | Xinhuan | and the current gear only gives a max of 8% |
| 15:28.04 | Mire | a good arcane mage rests for a noncasting mana regen tick |
| 15:28.06 | Xinhuan | even if you have every haste gear |
| 15:28.28 | Xinhuan | hence it depends on spec and cast rotation |
| 15:28.54 | Mire | all the haste i need is AM spec w/ MSD (pre 2.3) |
| 15:28.55 | Xinhuan | a mage that spams only AMs does benefit greatly from haste |
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| 15:29.05 | Xinhuan | but such a AM spam mage cannot neglect spellcrit |
| 15:29.08 | Mire | yar |
| 15:29.19 | Xinhuan | because TLC, 4 pc T5 and Sextant all are based on crit procs |
| 15:29.25 | Mire | AM spam mage should be stacking haste, spell crit |
| 15:29.34 | Mire | sextant is horrid for am spam |
| 15:29.42 | Xinhuan | its alright |
| 15:29.46 | Mire | the ashtounge one > * |
| 15:29.46 | Xinhuan | just not the best |
| 15:30.00 | Xinhuan | not many people in the world are exalted mire |
| 15:30.02 | Mire | TLC > ashtounge > * |
| 15:30.07 | Mire | correct |
| 15:30.22 | Mire | but if they are grabbing spell haste gear, then they are in BT/MH |
| 15:30.28 | Xinhuan | hence sextant is the next best really, or braid |
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| 15:30.53 | Mire | braid is ok for midlength fights |
| 15:30.59 | Matrix110 | Braid is nice if you are running oom to fast |
| 15:31.02 | Mire | sextant will be it on short and long ones. |
| 15:31.02 | Xinhuan | you'll still need to do a good 2-3 months of BT just to get exalted though |
| 15:31.12 | Xinhuan | so its a bit off |
| 15:31.32 | Xinhuan | probably 2 months if you don't miss raids, 3 if you miss some |
| 15:31.37 | Mire | i wouldn't say 3 months, a good month and a half |
| 15:31.44 | Mire | yar |
| 15:32.00 | Matrix110 | depends how fast you progress/wipe :P |
| 15:32.06 | Mire | also depends if your guild is fail and can't beat gorefiend |
| 15:32.25 | Matrix110 | Gorefiend isnt that hard Oo |
| 15:32.33 | Xinhuan | the trash to him is annoying |
| 15:32.34 | Matrix110 | but well sometimes... some people fuck it up |
| 15:32.35 | Mire | ive seen guilds die on him |
| 15:32.48 | Mire | like KT guild killer 2.0 |
| 15:33.06 | Mire | remember the 2.0 KT? Sooooo many months of attempts. |
| 15:33.12 | Mire | patch 2.0 that is |
| 15:33.13 | Matrix110 | well you wipe if you got new ppl that get Ghost 1. and nobody else could help them if they do a mistake |
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| 15:33.16 | Xinhuan | if there's anything i hate more in BT, its gorefiend trash >.> |
| 15:33.20 | Mire | err 2.1 |
| 15:33.27 | Mire | yar |
| 15:34.00 | Xinhuan | but hey you can 2-man some of those lol |
| 15:34.14 | Xinhuan | if you put off clearing after akama till late in the week |
| 15:38.07 | Mire | yar |
| 15:38.12 | Mire | i've watched the videos |
| 15:38.23 | Mire | if my new toon was BT keyed, i'd do it |
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| 15:41.40 | xyu | I just got my 2piece T5, was specced fire before. what's an arcane spec for meee? never tried arcane. was always a fire fan until they fucked ignite. so now i'm willing to try arcane. |
| 15:41.53 | Josh_Borke | no one likes frost =( |
| 15:42.09 | xyu | i do, but i can't raid w/ it >_< |
| 15:43.25 | xyu | so what's a typical arcane spec? 49/12/0? |
| 15:43.55 | deltron | lulz @ frost :D |
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| 15:48.32 | Xinhuan | xyu |
| 15:48.37 | Xinhuan | i'm 48/13/0 |
| 15:48.43 | Xinhuan | basically, just 1 point difference |
| 15:49.00 | Xinhuan | the difference is, i didn't get Slow, because its worthless in pve |
| 15:49.05 | xyu | yea |
| 15:49.16 | xyu | get pyro? |
| 15:49.19 | Xinhuan | yah |
| 15:49.38 | Xinhuan | you normally use am/pom/pyro every 3 min |
| 15:49.49 | Xinhuan | ap pom pyro i mean |
| 15:50.01 | Xinhuan | there are 2 ways to play arcane mage |
| 15:50.05 | Xinhuan | the first is AM spam |
| 15:50.05 | xyu | on a clearcast? |
| 15:50.13 | Xinhuan | where you just cast nothing but AM |
| 15:50.23 | Xinhuan | the 2nd way is a Arcane Blast rotation |
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| 15:50.48 | Xinhuan | AM spam requires a JoW on the boss, or a spriest in your party |
| 15:50.49 | xyu | i only have about 1100 spell dmg |
| 15:50.56 | Xinhuan | that's more than enough |
| 15:51.09 | Xinhuan | AB rotation requires careful mana monitoring |
| 15:51.19 | xyu | oh i might up that dmg, i forgot arcane takes, what, 95 to max hit? |
| 15:51.23 | xyu | i can put a lot more crit gems on |
| 15:51.26 | Xinhuan | 76 actually |
| 15:51.36 | xyu | oh nice |
| 15:51.47 | Xinhuan | and its less than 76 typically because you will normally have a shaman in your party |
| 15:51.49 | Xinhuan | aura |
| 15:52.01 | xyu | yea |
| 15:52.02 | Xinhuan | totem gives another 3% if he's elemental |
| 15:52.08 | Xinhuan | so you only need 25 |
| 15:52.09 | Xinhuan | spellhit |
| 15:52.15 | Xinhuan | but get 76 anyway |
| 15:52.58 | Xinhuan | AM spam won't really work if you don't have TLC |
| 15:53.00 | xyu | is AM spam better for 5 man/ heroics etc? |
| 15:53.01 | xyu | kara |
| 15:53.07 | Xinhuan | AB rotation won't really work if you don't have 2 pc t5 |
| 15:53.22 | Xinhuan | works fine either way |
| 15:53.24 | xyu | k |
| 15:54.06 | Xinhuan | ab rotation takes about 1-2 weeks of raiding to learn |
| 15:54.10 | Xinhuan | how to use effectively |
| 15:54.48 | Xinhuan | if you plan to do that, just stick with AB-AB-AM-Scorch repeat for now |
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| 15:55.17 | Xinhuan | once you've "mastered" how to look at the boss, the quartz cast bar and your AB debuff timer and any other thing the boss requires at the same time |
| 15:55.31 | Xinhuan | then you can start worrying about mana usage, conservation |
| 15:55.39 | Xinhuan | where you insert or remove extra ABs |
| 15:55.49 | Xinhuan | or replace the AM with 3xscorch |
| 15:55.54 | deltron | a new mage we picked up is an arcane god |
| 15:56.16 | deltron | sustained dps of 1370 |
| 15:56.19 | Xinhuan | its actually pretty hard to pick up, but its easy once you get the hang of it |
| 15:56.32 | Xinhuan | but i warn you, it takes effort and 1-2 weeks |
| 15:57.03 | xyu | I'll figure it out. Been playing a mage for too long now. i just took a break from raiding post TBC and am just now getting back into it |
| 15:57.12 | Xinhuan | the idea is to rech 0 mana just as the boss reaches 0 health |
| 15:57.21 | Xinhuan | so you have to pick a good pace to spend mana |
| 15:57.24 | Xinhuan | with ab rotation |
| 15:57.26 | xyu | i have 2 mages on same account same server |
| 15:57.31 | xyu | one for pvp, one for pve |
| 15:57.33 | Xinhuan | and use your evocation at the right time |
| 15:57.47 | Xinhuan | get a spirit wand/weapon for that |
| 15:57.58 | Xinhuan | actually, get a Int wand/weapon for next patch lol |
| 15:58.01 | Xinhuan | evocation nerf |
| 15:58.02 | _rane | i have this addon, myJunkSeller, and it has this little window that tells how much your gray items are worth. i've lost this little window somewhere and i can't get it back, any ideas? |
| 15:58.03 | xyu | yep |
| 15:58.25 | _rane | i've tried to reset the profile |
| 15:58.39 | Xinhuan | is it a ace addon or a nonace 1? |
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| 15:58.53 | xyu | is there a better time to use evocation? like a % of mana? or do you just mean when the encounter allows it? |
| 15:58.55 | Xinhuan | try disabling it, log in, log out, enable it, then relogin |
| 15:59.17 | _rane | Xinhuan: i'm not sure |
| 15:59.35 | Xinhuan | if the fight is long xyu like 12 minutes, you can try to spend 80% of your mana in the first 2-3 minutes, then evocate back to 90% |
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| 15:59.44 | Xinhuan | then you can evocate a second time at the 10th minute |
| 15:59.56 | Xinhuan | then spam your mana for damage again |
| 16:00.13 | Xinhuan | its mostly depedant on boss fight |
| 16:00.21 | Xinhuan | a fight like Maiden in kara |
| 16:00.25 | Xinhuan | is so short |
| 16:00.26 | xyu | is improved dampen better than prismatic? |
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| 16:00.32 | Xinhuan | you can spam AB the whole fight and never run out of mana |
| 16:00.36 | Xinhuan | and not use a single evocate |
| 16:00.45 | Xinhuan | (you spend half of it in repentence) |
| 16:01.08 | Xinhuan | neither is useful in pve |
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| 16:02.34 | xyu | is pom pyroing krosh for the pull so bad? why does it have to be fireblast? o_O;; |
| 16:02.48 | xyu | someone is getting chewed out in my friends raid for pullin w/ pom pyro lol |
| 16:02.54 | Xinhuan | pom pyro is ok |
| 16:03.01 | Xinhuan | no difference from fireblast |
| 16:03.08 | Xinhuan | in fact fireblast is bad because its range is short |
| 16:03.13 | Xinhuan | i'll rather you fireball pull |
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| 16:03.31 | _rane | Xinhuan: what you said worked like magic, thanks |
| 16:03.36 | Xinhuan | as a rule of thumb, the mage should pull krosh to start the whole fight |
| 16:03.46 | Xinhuan | since the others can be misdirected |
| 16:03.47 | xyu | yeah |
| 16:03.52 | Xinhuan | but you can't reposition krosh after |
| 16:04.04 | xyu | but why fireball over pyro? there's no real difference in that either |
| 16:04.12 | Xinhuan | oh there isn't a difference |
| 16:04.32 | Xinhuan | you only need something to establish the initial aggro, that's it |
| 16:05.48 | xyu | oh i see |
| 16:05.57 | xyu | they're made because he's arcane spec and not raid/fire |
| 16:06.10 | xyu | lol |
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| 16:06.56 | CIA-7 | 03nalumis * r53268 10BigBrother/ (localization_deDE.lua localization_enUS.lua): |
| 16:06.56 | CIA-7 | BigBrother: |
| 16:06.56 | CIA-7 | - deDE localization fixed |
| 16:06.56 | CIA-7 | - enUS localization better formatted |
| 16:07.33 | xyu | if you're 10/48/3 you'd pull w/ fireblast? |
| 16:08.33 | Xinhuan | no, just use a normal fireball or pyro |
| 16:08.53 | Xinhuan | you'll aggro by proximity if you try to use fireblast |
| 16:09.04 | Xinhuan | you don't really want to get 1-shot by the boss |
| 16:09.04 | xyu | not to mention a blastwave |
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| 16:10.00 | xyu | lol they're using pally bubble to pull i think |
| 16:10.06 | xyu | major domo style |
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| 16:32.53 | Paradox | if a speed test says my download is 984kb/s, that's a 1meg connection right? |
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| 16:36.40 | snurre | no, more like 8mbit |
| 16:37.16 | snurre | unless the test says 984 kbit |
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| 16:40.06 | deltron | what's the name of the keybinding replacement mod? |
| 16:40.09 | deltron | I can't remember |
| 16:41.45 | Fin | mybindings2 |
| 16:41.52 | Fin | click2cast |
| 16:41.53 | Fin | spellbinder |
| 16:41.58 | Fin | bindpad |
| 16:42.20 | Ellipsis | Finsmom |
| 16:42.33 | Fin | Ellipsis' mom on toast EXTREME edition |
| 16:42.38 | Fin | s/mom/mum/ |
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| 16:42.41 | Ellipsis | oh snap! |
| 16:42.50 | Fin | [18:39:42] <mikma> OH SNAP! http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/snap.jpg |
| 16:43.15 | Fin | My Name is Earl is the bestest thing EVER |
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| 16:45.48 | deltron | mybindings2 is what i was looking for heh |
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| 16:49.37 | _rane | postman doesn't seem to work very well along bulkmail |
| 16:49.58 | _rane | i like the right click to retrieve mail thing |
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| 16:51.02 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r53270 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: |
| 16:51.02 | CIA-7 | AceTab-3.0: |
| 16:51.02 | CIA-7 | - 'wlfunc' parameter changed to 'wordlist', and now also accepts an integer-indexed table of candidates (equivalent to what the function would have placed in the table passed as the first arg). |
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| 17:19.16 | Ellipsis | so running Kara now is a little bit different than running it when it was progression |
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| 17:23.03 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: More boring you mean? :P |
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| 17:32.22 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: something like that |
| 17:33.37 | Ellipsis | they AE the phantom guests now... *sigh* I remember when we used to wipe to thoose guys |
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| 17:34.04 | nevcairiel | kara was nerfed to hell since the progression days |
| 17:34.24 | nevcairiel | but anyway, we always AoE |
| 17:34.30 | nevcairiel | 'd |
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| 17:36.50 | Hjalte | Kaelten, now that you're here, someone was talking about pirated music in here earlier - what's your stance on that in this channel? |
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| 17:37.11 | Kaelten | what where they discussing? |
| 17:37.15 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
| 17:37.33 | Hjalte | Kaelten, possible websites to aquire such music files. |
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| 17:37.56 | Kaelten | do you have a log? |
| 17:38.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Hjalte: did they mention any good ones? >< |
| 17:38.53 | Hjalte | Nope. But it wasn't a very long conversation either, someone just asked and no-one really answered. I replied at one point, that it might not be the right place to talk about such things. |
| 17:39.08 | Fin | people were talking about oink too! |
| 17:40.18 | NightHawkAtWork | eh, there's other places to get tv/movies though |
| 17:40.58 | Fin | I don't know anywhere nearly as good |
| 17:41.02 | cncfanatics | anyone around with a spriest ? |
| 17:41.05 | Fin | and there's other places to get the music |
| 17:41.07 | Fin | cncfanatics: yeah |
| 17:41.17 | cncfanatics | Fin, could you test something for me in FB2 ? |
| 17:41.22 | cncfanatics | seems shadowform works incorrectly |
| 17:41.27 | Fin | cncfanatics: sure |
| 17:41.35 | Fin | whatchoo want testing? |
| 17:41.44 | cncfanatics | Fin: http://files.wowace.com/FlexBar2/FlexBar2.zip |
| 17:41.50 | cncfanatics | get that, and get on WoW :) i'll help u further |
| 17:42.01 | Fin | done |
| 17:42.10 | Fin | I mean |
| 17:42.11 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin: between eztv, tvtorrents (although that's been flakey lately) and mininova, I've not had much trouble finding anything i need from tv. But i perused oink's rss feeds daily, there was such an influx of music it was absurd. |
| 17:42.15 | Fin | I already had it, and I'm already on wow |
| 17:42.32 | Fin | cncfanatics: commence furtherations! |
| 17:42.41 | cncfanatics | fin, create a button |
| 17:42.45 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.48 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: are they streaming sites? |
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| 17:42.53 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:43.09 | cncfanatics | Fin, then get out of shadowform, put an action on the button, then get in shadowform, and see if the button remaps |
| 17:43.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin: no, torrent sites, I've never been a fan of streaming |
| 17:44.15 | cncfanatics | Fin, tell me if remaps on shadowform work |
| 17:45.07 | Fin | cncfanatics: righto, just reloading the UI |
| 17:45.18 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: ah, see, that's why I loved tv-links :( |
| 17:45.31 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: I've never really been a fan of streaming until I started using that site |
| 17:45.34 | cncfanatics | Fin, ur using FB2 btw ? or jsut dl'd it when I asked for help ? |
| 17:45.52 | Fin | nono, I'm using it :) |
| 17:45.52 | cncfanatics | NightHawkAtWork, you can find anything you need with torrents from demonoid.com |
| 17:45.55 | cncfanatics | but thats invite only |
| 17:45.55 | Fin | it's enabled anyway |
| 17:46.03 | Fin | I haven't played with it for a while, but it gets updated automatically |
| 17:46.13 | cncfanatics | Fin, using shadowform remaps ? |
| 17:46.19 | cncfanatics | thats just what I need testing if it works |
| 17:46.21 | Fin | wtf |
| 17:46.25 | Fin | I appear to have lost my WoW window |
| 17:46.44 | cncfanatics | brb |
| 17:46.48 | NightHawkAtWork | cncfanatics: yeah, i'm on demonoid, but they just don't have the quality and selection oink did for music. |
| 17:46.55 | Fin | Dear Windows: I do so truly, truly hate you. Love, Fin |
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| 17:51.09 | Fin | right! |
| 17:51.13 | Fin | let's try that again |
| 17:52.01 | Fin | cncfanatics: I have to admit to not knowing what's meant to happen by a "remap" |
| 17:52.06 | Ominous | hey fin :) |
| 17:52.08 | Fin | Om de dom dom dommmmmmm |
| 17:52.12 | Fin | hello mate |
| 17:52.14 | Ellipsis | so uh |
| 17:52.22 | Ellipsis | what's this maiden of virtue chick do? |
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| 17:52.29 | Fin | holy fire! |
| 17:52.44 | Ellipsis | anything I need to know before we run in and kick her butt? |
| 17:52.54 | Aeyan | Repentance |
| 17:52.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: don't die. |
| 17:52.56 | Fin | she periodically stuns everyone, the tank has to move her into range of the healers so they get aoe damage |
| 17:53.00 | Aeyan | Might want to read up on that |
| 17:53.00 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 17:53.09 | Fin | the dispellers have to make sure her holy fire gets dispelled quick like |
| 17:53.10 | Fin | that's it |
| 17:53.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin: by that you mean the healers have to not be effing lazy and run into consecrate range? |
| 17:53.45 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: hey, in my groups there's always been the healers split over the two sides |
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| 17:54.12 | cncfanatics | ok back |
| 17:54.29 | Fin | [19:52:04] <Fin> cncfanatics: I have to admit to not knowing what's meant to happen by a "remap" |
| 17:54.31 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: also, if you have any warriors, they can zerker rage jsut before the repentence to be immune to both it and the damage it deals |
| 17:54.35 | cncfanatics | Fun, if you set an action on a button while out of shadowform it should remap back to being empty in shadowform to allow you yo have two different actions |
| 17:54.38 | Fin | cncfanatics: nothing much happens to the button |
| 17:54.41 | cncfanatics | one for in, one for out of shadowform |
| 17:54.43 | cncfanatics | weirdish |
| 17:54.45 | cncfanatics | cld u dump this ? |
| 17:54.56 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.46 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/75833 |
| 17:56.10 | Josh_Borke | ~wiki translocator |
| 17:56.11 | Ellipsis | oh, you guys forgot to mention she goes down in like 10 seconds |
| 17:56.29 | cncfanatics | why the fuck is shadowform not in there damnit ? |
| 17:56.45 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.20 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/75834 |
| 17:57.32 | Fin | Ellipsis: like a 10 dollar whore |
| 17:57.40 | Fin | Ellipsis: on buy one get one free day |
| 17:57.49 | Ellipsis | which day is that? |
| 17:57.55 | Fin | April 20th |
| 17:58.00 | Fin | my birthday! |
| 17:58.01 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 17:58.05 | cncfanatics | Fin, ur specced shadow & have shadowform ? |
| 17:58.08 | Ellipsis | not that I'm marking my calendar or anything |
| 17:58.12 | Fin | yes |
| 17:58.27 | Fin | that question *is* vaguely insulting, but, I'll let it pass |
| 17:58.30 | Fin | :P |
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| 17:58.40 | cncfanatics | why the heck is GetNumShapeshiftForms then 0 ? |
| 17:59.09 | Erica | anyone know of an issue with cartographer not showing herbalism and mining nodes or is it just me? |
| 17:59.12 | Fin | because some other addon hooked it badly? |
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| 17:59.38 | _rane | anyway to get a bigger item database in ludwig? |
| 17:59.57 | Ellipsis | ask Blizz really nicely? |
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| 18:00.35 | Fin | PLAYER_AURA_CHANGED is firing OK |
| 18:00.41 | cncfanatics | I'm not using events |
| 18:00.46 | cncfanatics | I'm remapping shapeshifts with secure code |
| 18:00.50 | cncfanatics | has nothing to do with it :p |
| 18:00.58 | Fin | just noted that because of what it said on http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetNumShapeshiftForms |
| 18:00.59 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.04 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.11 | Fin | "The function might return 0 if called before the event PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED has fired off." |
| 18:01.25 | cncfanatics | works for all other classes, bah |
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| 18:01.36 | Fin | woo, got a bug on (0) |
| 18:01.41 | cncfanatics | can u /dump it again in shadowform ? |
| 18:01.50 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.51 | cncfanatics | in shadowform |
| 18:02.25 | Fin | I was in shadow form, and actually I'd already tested it out of shadow form |
| 18:02.26 | Fin | it's the same |
| 18:02.28 | Fin | but here's the bug: |
| 18:02.54 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/75835 |
| 18:03.56 | Fin | and here's the output from /dump GetShapeShiftForms(1): |
| 18:03.59 | Fin | Empty result |
| 18:08.53 | Ellipsis | interesting... |
| 18:09.07 | Ellipsis | spellstrike proc can go off even if the spell doesn't hit o.O |
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| 18:11.01 | Fin | well, it is on spellcast |
| 18:11.11 | Fin | bit of a misnomer in the set name, though |
| 18:13.44 | cncfanatics | Fin, I'm commiting a fix atm |
| 18:13.48 | cncfanatics | could you try it out in 4 minutes ? |
| 18:14.17 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53272 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Fix for remaps on priest shadowform |
| 18:14.30 | Ellipsis | sooooo every single drop so far has been leather |
| 18:14.39 | Ellipsis | except a shaman totem and a fist weapon :/ |
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| 18:19.31 | CIA-7 | 03celellach * r53273 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 18:19.31 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 18:19.31 | CIA-7 | - Added Brewfest |
| 18:19.31 | CIA-7 | - Horseman update |
| 18:20.56 | cncfanatics | Fin, could you try again now with the latest rev ? |
| 18:21.36 | CIA-7 | 03celellach * r53274 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:21.36 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:21.36 | CIA-7 | - Added Brewfest |
| 18:21.36 | CIA-7 | - Reordered the World Events page. |
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| 18:24.18 | Fin | kk, I'm on another char, gimme a minute |
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| 18:38.22 | cncfanatics | Fin, it works ? |
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| 18:39.57 | Fin | cncfanatics: buggy |
| 18:39.58 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/75836 |
| 18:40.04 | Fin | please fix it soon so I can test it again |
| 18:40.06 | Fin | :) |
| 18:43.11 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.18 | cncfanatics | gives what Fin ? |
| 18:43.41 | cncfanatics | and /dump GetTalentInfo(3, 18); |
| 18:43.43 | cncfanatics | need that too |
| 18:45.32 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/75838 |
| 18:45.41 | Fin | I can't do this much longer I'm afraid |
| 18:46.38 | cncfanatics | huh ? wth |
| 18:47.22 | Fin | I did not expect that reaction |
| 18:47.42 | cncfanatics | I mean, the pastey is weird |
| 18:47.48 | Fin | I'm just saying, I'm going to play the game in a minute on another character, so won't be able to wait around for you and stuff |
| 18:47.51 | Fin | oh |
| 18:48.20 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53275 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0: frFR Update |
| 18:48.37 | Fin | cncfanatics: are you in the EU? |
| 18:48.45 | cncfanatics | Fin, yes |
| 18:48.59 | cncfanatics | Fin, could you test one last thing for me ? |
| 18:49.19 | Fin | sure |
| 18:49.48 | cncfanatics | open FlexBar2, the Attributes module , in there open Attributes.lua |
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| 18:49.59 | cncfanatics | in there, get to line 83 |
| 18:50.06 | cncfanatics | local FormName, _, _, _, ShadowformRank = GetTalentInfo(3, 18); |
| 18:50.15 | cncfanatics | after that line, add FlexBar2:Print(FormName); |
| 18:50.16 | cncfanatics | and then reload |
| 18:50.23 | Fin | which file? |
| 18:50.32 | Fin | er, directory |
| 18:50.37 | Fin | oh, _Attributes |
| 18:50.41 | cncfanatics | ya |
| 18:51.07 | Fin | reloading |
| 18:51.23 | Fin | I have Talented installed and enabled, FYI |
| 18:51.27 | cncfanatics | doesn't matter |
| 18:51.31 | Fin | just FYI |
| 18:51.36 | cncfanatics | FYI = ? |
| 18:51.39 | Fin | for your information |
| 18:51.43 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 18:52.03 | Fin | ie, I am drawing no conclusions, just giving you more data that may be relevant, s'all |
| 18:52.35 | Ellipsis | hopefully Talented isn't screwing with the GetTalentInfo function :P |
| 18:52.36 | cncfanatics | u shld have some output in ChatFrame1 from flexbar |
| 18:52.38 | cncfanatics | just need that :) |
| 18:52.40 | Fin | OK, done |
| 18:52.55 | cncfanatics | what u get as output ? |
| 18:53.01 | Fin | nothing |
| 18:53.18 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 18:53.19 | cncfanatics | wth |
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| 18:53.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:53.48 | Fin | wait, that's a lie |
| 18:53.49 | Fin | 205207 FlexBar2: Shadowform |
| 18:53.58 | cncfanatics | ok, then WHY THE FUCK is it nil two lines under that ? |
| 18:54.40 | Ellipsis | because you touch yourself at night? |
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| 18:54.55 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, die in a fire |
| 18:55.07 | Fin | well |
| 18:55.20 | Fin | I just did: |
| 18:55.23 | Fin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.32 | Fin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.34 | Fin | and got: |
| 18:55.38 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics, ilu2 |
| 18:55.39 | cncfanatics | yea, I know that |
| 18:55.45 | Fin | 205453 FlexBar2: Shadowform |
| 18:55.46 | cncfanatics | I want to know if its like that on login too |
| 18:55.53 | cncfanatics | just doing that won't have any effect as I'm sure it works at runtime |
| 18:55.58 | Fin | I haven't done anything |
| 18:56.12 | cncfanatics | I just did; 3 lines later, I haven't done anything -.- |
| 18:56.23 | Fin | but I wasn't in ShadowForm |
| 18:56.31 | cncfanatics | doesn't matter |
| 18:56.34 | cncfanatics | I'm getting ur damn talent info :p |
| 18:57.17 | cncfanatics | anyway, lemme do some testing on my part |
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| 18:57.21 | Fin | righto |
| 18:57.23 | Fin | good luck |
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| 18:58.12 | cncfanatics | its nil on login |
| 18:58.13 | cncfanatics | HOW HANDY |
| 18:58.22 | Fin | what? |
| 18:58.24 | cncfanatics | that function doesn't get any localized names on login |
| 18:58.25 | Fin | +is |
| 18:58.27 | cncfanatics | for some reason |
| 18:58.30 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.46 | Fin | don't you have to wait for something before it returns valid info? |
| 18:58.47 | Gagorian | talent info isn't available yet at that point |
| 18:58.56 | cncfanatics | it is |
| 18:59.00 | cncfanatics | at least talent points spent are |
| 18:59.04 | cncfanatics | just not the names |
| 18:59.10 | cncfanatics | I'm doing this OnEnable, which is quite late |
| 18:59.29 | cncfanatics | wait, lemme look up the loading order |
| 18:59.34 | cncfanatics | is talent info available even later ? |
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| 18:59.49 | cncfanatics | yea it is |
| 18:59.51 | cncfanatics | piece of crap |
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| 19:00.51 | cncfanatics | PLAYER_ALIVE is the one |
| 19:01.44 | cncfanatics | btw Gagorian |
| 19:01.45 | baer_ | anyone here watches GigaTV? :) |
| 19:01.53 | cncfanatics | do you know if it is possible to get unlocalized spell / form names ? |
| 19:02.14 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53276 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Fix for remaps on priest shadowform |
| 19:02.26 | cncfanatics | Fin, flexbar will work for you again now |
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| 19:02.49 | gi-Skogsmulle | Hello |
| 19:03.08 | cncfanatics | Hi |
| 19:03.10 | baer_ | i'm still confused at which spellcrit destro warlock makes more sense than destruction warlock. |
| 19:03.45 | grzesieq | baer_: for personal high dps you dont need crit |
| 19:03.55 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 19:04.00 | baer_ | grzesieq: no? |
| 19:04.16 | grzesieq | nope, hitcap, then high dmg and some haste |
| 19:04.18 | kandariel | i couldnt find it on the forums nor on any other page but im getting an incompatible error when trying to load ace2 and squeenix amongst other addons. anyone of you encountered that problem before? |
| 19:04.33 | Ellipsis | kandariel: what is the error message? |
| 19:04.34 | cncfanatics | kandariel, paste the error ? |
| 19:04.44 | baer_ | grzesieq: for ssc like 1000 dps & 202 spellhit? |
| 19:05.01 | grzesieq | hm, seems ok |
| 19:05.03 | baer_ | s/1000 dps/1000 bonus dmg/g |
| 19:05.17 | kandariel | well basically, when i log on and go to my addonpage both ace2 and squeenix says incompatible and won't load upon zoning in |
| 19:05.28 | grzesieq | baer_: link me your armory ;) |
| 19:05.36 | baer_ | !c eu Todeswache Gingles |
| 19:05.42 | Ellipsis | kandariel: update them |
| 19:05.50 | Ellipsis | and if you're not using disembedded libs, get rid of Ace2 |
| 19:06.06 | Fin | cncfanatics: cool, thanks - I'll check it later though |
| 19:06.17 | kandariel | i downloaded them both via wowace.com |
| 19:06.21 | grzesieq | baer_: it also depends if you can get a spriest in group |
| 19:06.46 | Ellipsis | kandariel: update them, you have very old versions |
| 19:06.52 | baer_ | grzesieq: got one. |
| 19:07.06 | kandariel | Ellipsis, so where do i got to go for updated versions? |
| 19:07.15 | Ellipsis | files.wowace.com |
| 19:08.28 | kandariel | roger that, lemme try it now |
| 19:09.59 | Ellipsis | lulz, I love ressing with full mana |
| 19:10.01 | kandariel | Ellipsis, seems to be working now :)) i get a fubarpluginerror though, but i guess that has nothing to do with squeenix..! :) Thanks for the helpmate! |
| 19:11.41 | Ellipsis | anytime |
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| 19:13.11 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53277 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Remove debug code, meh |
| 19:15.11 | kandariel | sorry for being annoying but i do get another error now, lol, :) |
| 19:16.52 | kandariel | its a bit of code, is it ok if i paste it in this channel? |
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| 19:18.12 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53278 10FlexBar2_DreamLayout/DreamLayout.lua: FlexBar2_DreamLayout: Fix padding error |
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| 19:23.00 | CrazyBenny | kandariel: http://ace.pastey.net/ :) |
| 19:25.31 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53279 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: several fixes to frFR pattern |
| 19:29.47 | grzesieq | uhm, any way to turn off the spam when joining av? |
| 19:33.01 | Gngsk | join spam? |
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| 19:39.04 | Ominous | hey ckknight_ |
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| 19:42.02 | baer_ | grzesieq: i'm still hoping for some answer. :-} |
| 19:42.29 | Ellipsis | sweet, almost 1k shadow damage |
| 19:42.51 | Ellipsis | now if only I could get those gloves off Attumen... |
| 19:43.20 | baer_ | Ellipsis: *hehe* they definately rock, i still wear 'em when skilled to affiliction. |
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| 19:43.47 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, u raiding ? :o |
| 19:44.23 | grzesieq | baer_: i answered in whisper :o |
| 19:44.25 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 19:44.27 | grzesieq | err |
| 19:44.33 | Ellipsis | I just ran Kara for the first time on this char :) |
| 19:44.44 | grzesieq | whatever is the name of whisper in irc ;) |
| 19:45.06 | Ellipsis | /msg |
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| 19:46.19 | baer_ | grzesieq: in whisper? don't see anything there except for my url. |
| 19:46.26 | grzesieq | so, any way to remove the join spam in av? |
| 19:46.37 | grzesieq | now? |
| 19:46.43 | grzesieq | oh crap |
| 19:46.57 | grzesieq | my autoident script isnt working -.- |
| 19:47.23 | Xelo | http://www.arenajunkies.com/calculator/ <<-- being ridiculously close to gladiator ftw |
| 19:47.51 | Xelo | grzesieq, most BG mods I've seen have some options to prevent spamming your chat log |
| 19:47.54 | Xelo | and I think Prat does too |
| 19:48.48 | Chomp | Fisker- |
| 19:48.50 | Chomp | are you alive/ |
| 19:49.11 | Chomp | sent you a pm, gogo |
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| 20:06.27 | Fisker- | Anyone know a linux app that can get the CRC32 checksum and/or MD5 checksums? |
| 20:06.30 | Fisker- | from a file |
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| 20:09.07 | srge | md5sum <file> ? |
| 20:12.50 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, nab |
| 20:14.22 | Fisker- | wtf srge >I |
| 20:14.30 | Fisker- | could've sworn i tried out md5<tab> |
| 20:17.25 | kadrahil | Fisker-: nub |
| 20:17.52 | Fisker- | cksum = crc32? |
| 20:18.33 | cncfanatics | ln cksum --help |
| 20:19.21 | kadrahil | Usage: cksum [FILE]... |
| 20:19.21 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.21 | kadrahil | Print CRC checksum and byte counts of each FILE. |
| 20:20.24 | Fisker- | i thought CRC checksums were 8 hexidecimals? |
| 20:20.31 | Fisker- | 981843423 1902019901 Crysis_SP_Demo.exe |
| 20:20.41 | Fisker- | the latter is the filesize i guess |
| 20:22.14 | NeoTron | and now we've witnessed yet another ordinary day on IRC |
| 20:22.33 | kadrahil | i think it's time to stop eating fast food |
| 20:22.37 | kadrahil | and start working out again |
| 20:22.42 | kadrahil | i'm getting fat :X |
| 20:22.52 | kadrahil | (i blame WoW for this) |
| 20:22.56 | NeoTron | just work out by moving the food quickly to your mouth repeatedly |
| 20:22.58 | deltron | http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/news/2007/10/openmoko_firstlook <-- /drool |
| 20:22.59 | kadrahil | hah |
| 20:23.22 | kadrahil | i gained 30 lbs since i started playing wow again 8 months ago |
| 20:23.55 | Fisker- | deltron wtf? |
| 20:23.59 | Fisker- | iPhone killer? |
| 20:24.07 | Fisker- | Dude, those existed even before the iPhone was launched |
| 20:24.13 | deltron | that thing has been around long before iphone |
| 20:26.16 | kadrahil | Fisker-: rerooolling alliance on korgath ftw |
| 20:26.55 | stavmar | so what might be a good mod that tells you how much of a mouse over item you have on another character on the same server? |
| 20:27.02 | Ellipsis | wait who's on korgath? >_> |
| 20:27.26 | *** part/#wowace TrueFreak (n=Alec@d14-69-157-78.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 20:27.34 | Fisker- | oh u kadrahil? |
| 20:27.41 | kadrahil | Ellipsis: i am now |
| 20:27.56 | Ellipsis | ooh play alts with me |
| 20:28.11 | kadrahil | Ellipsis: orly? you have alts there? |
| 20:28.21 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 20:28.29 | kadrahil | alliance side? |
| 20:28.46 | Ellipsis | I have a level 1 lock I hang out on when I'm chatting with my friends there, always wanted to get around to leveling heer |
| 20:28.51 | Ellipsis | yeap |
| 20:29.22 | kadrahil | i have a 21 shaman and 20 priest |
| 20:29.29 | kadrahil | and uhh.. a 12 pally |
| 20:30.01 | kadrahil | i have the human starting zone memorized :( |
| 20:30.15 | kadrahil | after a week of playing alliance |
| 20:30.53 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 20:31.07 | Ellipsis | I have the human starting zone mostly memorized after leveling there about ten times |
| 20:31.56 | kadrahil | yeah, i have all the horde zones memorized |
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| 20:32.00 | Ozguli | What's the highest point in Azeroth? |
| 20:32.07 | Ozguli | iron forge's mountain? |
| 20:32.15 | kadrahil | i was thinking one of the spires in the ghostlands |
| 20:32.24 | kadrahil | that you have to teleport to the top of |
| 20:32.32 | Ozguli | ooo |
| 20:32.37 | Ozguli | but is that ghostlands? |
| 20:32.37 | deltron | you bored? |
| 20:32.42 | kadrahil | yes |
| 20:32.43 | Ozguli | nah |
| 20:32.50 | Ozguli | I climbed on top of IF yesterday |
| 20:32.57 | Fisker- | reported |
| 20:33.01 | Ozguli | now I want to lvl my priest to 44 and try mind vision :P |
| 20:33.02 | kadrahil | reported for reporting |
| 20:33.10 | kadrahil | fisker |
| 20:33.19 | kadrahil | i've gone under stormwind a bunch of times |
| 20:33.24 | Ozguli | but it's obviously a minigame! |
| 20:33.30 | Fisker- | reported |
| 20:33.31 | kadrahil | i landed in the mage training room once and surprised the crap out of a 62 mage |
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| 20:33.39 | kadrahil | he roffled |
| 20:33.45 | Fisker- | i reported |
| 20:33.48 | kadrahil | then a 70 mage came in and owned me :( |
| 20:33.58 | HarrisonF | there are the twin colossals in feralas which is pretty high |
| 20:34.00 | Fisker- | and then i came and reported you |
| 20:34.03 | Ozguli | I ran around for maybe 2 hours before finding the starting spot |
| 20:34.05 | kadrahil | hunter in 10x10 closed room with no way out = fail |
| 20:34.07 | swayenvoy | Hi all |
| 20:34.07 | kadrahil | Fisker-: NO U |
| 20:34.33 | Fisker- | no u |
| 20:34.33 | swayenvoy | anyone got an idea about using AceComm-2.0 for inter addon communication? |
| 20:34.36 | Ozguli | but it's like.. start, then pick left/right and hope it was the right choise |
| 20:34.40 | kadrahil | is that even reportable? since it is't really "exploting" a bug? |
| 20:34.49 | Ozguli | depends... |
| 20:34.57 | kadrahil | i mean, the going under stormwind bit |
| 20:35.01 | Ozguli | imo the IF airport is asking to be gotten into |
| 20:35.04 | Ozguli | o |
| 20:35.09 | Ozguli | imo it is a bit haxhax |
| 20:35.22 | Ozguli | but hey, there was this obvious FP |
| 20:35.28 | kadrahil | one time i was down there and i saw a level 20 rogue just randomly drop down from the city |
| 20:35.30 | Ozguli | which turned out to be a fake after all |
| 20:35.45 | Ozguli | er so... |
| 20:35.51 | Ozguli | what I was thinking of is mind vision |
| 20:35.59 | Ozguli | as it has infinite range on rank 2 |
| 20:36.11 | Ozguli | I'd be able to spy just about anyone |
| 20:36.32 | Xelo | Amazingly 50,000 yards is about from one side of the barrens to the other |
| 20:36.37 | Ozguli | it seems to require caster to current target LOS, not just caster-to-target-to-target |
| 20:36.41 | Xelo | So you think it's huge, but it's only barrens-huge |
| 20:36.51 | Ozguli | ee. |
| 20:36.53 | Xelo | Ozguli, same thing with farsight now |
| 20:37.07 | Xelo | before you used to be able to farsight to tanaris from crossroads |
| 20:37.35 | Fisker- | Going to restricted areas are reportable |
| 20:37.41 | kadrahil | ah |
| 20:38.27 | Ozguli | restricted |
| 20:38.43 | Ozguli | I didn't abuse any bug just jumped a bit to get to the airport! |
| 20:39.22 | swayenvoy | I may ask again later maybe then is someone here who can help me |
| 20:40.38 | Fisker- | Ozguli jumping is exploiting |
| 20:40.51 | Ozguli | eee |
| 20:41.01 | Fisker- | not kidding btw |
| 20:41.03 | Ozguli | explain that one :P |
| 20:41.21 | Fisker- | walljumping is considered exploitation |
| 20:41.27 | Ozguli | wasn't a walljump |
| 20:41.27 | Fisker- | which you're undoubtfully using |
| 20:41.33 | Ellipsis | it doesn't take walljumping to get to the airport |
| 20:41.33 | Fisker- | indeed it was! |
| 20:41.35 | Fisker- | Or else |
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| 20:41.42 | Fisker- | <-craisis |
| 20:41.42 | Ozguli | doesn't require walljumping |
| 20:41.49 | Ellipsis | you can climb it without any walljumping, just normal jumps |
| 20:41.53 | Fisker- | did the time i did it anyways |
| 20:42.01 | Ozguli | why should they add a clear damn path there and make it so desirable location? |
| 20:42.12 | Fisker- | oh and jumping on a slope is walljumping btw |
| 20:42.17 | Ozguli | path, I say! tamped dirt road |
| 20:42.21 | Fisker- | <-craisis |
| 20:43.27 | Ozguli | and, oh |
| 20:43.32 | Ellipsis | it's only walljumping if you land on an invisible ledge |
| 20:43.36 | Ozguli | iron forge to booty bay distance is jst about 10 000 yards |
| 20:43.52 | Ozguli | mind vision range is supposedly 50 000 yards |
| 20:43.58 | Ellipsis | if you land on an actual ledge or a slope that's not too steep to run on, it's not hax |
| 20:43.59 | Fisker- | OMG FUCK THIS SHITTY GAME |
| 20:44.12 | Fisker- | <1 minute of FUCKING STUPID EA/CRYTEK/AD MOVIES> |
| 20:44.16 | deltron | Ozguli: you can cast mind vision, etc over and over |
| 20:44.16 | Fisker- | now get the fuck out of my game |
| 20:44.42 | Ozguli | deltron indeed but not from target to target |
| 20:44.45 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: esc doesn't skip 'em? |
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| 20:45.05 | deltron | you can't go target to target with mind vision? |
| 20:45.08 | deltron | you sure? |
| 20:45.13 | Ozguli | I mean the LOS |
| 20:45.15 | chronx | yes you can |
| 20:45.32 | Ozguli | try to mind vision something around a building |
| 20:45.39 | Ozguli | at least rank1 doesn't work |
| 20:45.50 | swayenvoy | anyone got an idea about using AceComm-2.0 for inter addon communication? |
| 20:45.52 | Ozguli | have your friends go in a circle or something to make the situation... |
| 20:45.54 | Ellipsis | you can do it with the normal level 60 rank |
| 20:46.11 | Ozguli | oh so it's cool then |
| 20:46.14 | Ozguli | what about lvl 44 rank? |
| 20:46.18 | deltron | I hardly ever play my priest heh |
| 20:46.20 | Ellipsis | dunno |
| 20:46.31 | Ozguli | is it just the range increase |
| 20:46.34 | Ellipsis | I've only ever played around with mind vision on a level 60 |
| 20:47.15 | Ozguli | I love every single one of my priest's skills |
| 20:47.21 | Ozguli | er, no |
| 20:47.27 | Ozguli | not the holy ones but rest are fine |
| 20:47.29 | chronx | i almost made a priest just for MC and MV |
| 20:47.59 | chronx | but i decided on a mage :)... teleporting + free water ftw |
| 20:48.21 | Hjalte | Real casters have pets :P |
| 20:48.23 | Ozguli | throwing people off the cliffs and spirit tap ftw |
| 20:48.35 | Ozguli | all casters have pets |
| 20:48.47 | chronx | speaking of casters and pets... nerf warlocks |
| 20:48.57 | kadrahil | QQMOAR |
| 20:48.59 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 20:49.14 | chronx | ahh #wowace is just like the forums |
| 20:49.18 | Ozguli | they're not THAT bad if stunlocked... |
| 20:49.24 | kadrahil | haha |
| 20:49.31 | kadrahil | i'm kidding |
| 20:49.36 | chronx | the only way i can beat a warlock is with my raid arcane spec... and MAYBE with frost |
| 20:49.40 | Ellipsis | the only good rogue is a feared rogue /discuss |
| 20:49.53 | Ozguli | what if there are 2 of them? ;) |
| 20:50.10 | chronx | well the dots would end up killing me anyway even if i did manage to kill a warlock |
| 20:50.25 | Ozguli | cloak of shadows *pooof* |
| 20:50.44 | chronx | rogues are annoying to mages as well |
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| 20:51.13 | chronx | rogues are druids... if i get close to killing one they dash off in the distance and stealth/full-heal |
| 20:51.15 | Ozguli | hahahah |
| 20:51.19 | chronx | and** |
| 20:51.23 | Ozguli | mage vs rogue |
| 20:51.27 | Ozguli | ice block + summon pet |
| 20:51.33 | Ozguli | that's about... 50% of one's hp |
| 20:51.38 | Ozguli | if unlucky |
| 20:51.46 | Antiarc | Frost mages piss me off |
| 20:51.54 | Ozguli | freeze freeze snare freeze |
| 20:51.59 | chronx | a good rogue can easily beat frost mages |
| 20:52.05 | Antiarc | Assuming full cooldowns. |
| 20:52.10 | Fisker- | Ellipsis it's a fucking EA game what do you think? |
| 20:52.16 | Fisker- | even had like a 2-3 minute intro video |
| 20:52.21 | Antiarc | If you and he are left standing at the end of an arena match and your cooldowns are down, you're boned. |
| 20:52.23 | Fisker- | intro = trailer btw |
| 20:52.28 | chronx | between vanish,blind,clos,sprint,trinket,DEADLY THROW,kick,garrote |
| 20:52.38 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: lolsux2bu |
| 20:52.41 | Ozguli | deadly throw deadly throw deadly throw |
| 20:52.46 | Ozguli | but that'll be nerfed as well |
| 20:52.58 | chronx | deadly throw is ridiculously op imo.... or at least rogue pvp glove bonus is |
| 20:53.09 | Ozguli | :P |
| 20:53.16 | Antiarc | Well, it's all luck right now |
| 20:53.17 | chronx | they're changing DT in 2.3 not really nerfing it... |
| 20:53.19 | Ozguli | I've killed a mage with 10 throw combo spree |
| 20:53.25 | Antiarc | Since the missile travel time is so slow right now |
| 20:53.29 | Ozguli | without gloves, the poor thing started to run away with 60% hp |
| 20:53.57 | chronx | lvl 70 crippling poison is practically a snare |
| 20:54.03 | chronx | it shouldn't scale as well as it does imo |
| 20:54.09 | Antiarc | Err |
| 20:54.09 | Ozguli | mm |
| 20:54.14 | Ozguli | there's no lvl 70 crippling poisoin |
| 20:54.14 | Antiarc | There are two ranks of crippling |
| 20:54.22 | Ozguli | last rank I remember comes on lvl 55 or so |
| 20:54.24 | chronx | i mean the crippling poison that rogues use at lvl 70 >_> |
| 20:54.28 | Antiarc | Rank 2 is level 50 |
| 20:54.30 | Ozguli | and has 70% movement speed reduce |
| 20:54.41 | kadrahil | 70%? ouch |
| 20:54.51 | swayenvoy | can anyone help me with my problem? |
| 20:54.51 | chronx | 70% slower... thats ridiculous |
| 20:54.55 | Antiarc | It's cleansable though, unlike hamstring and wing clip <_< |
| 20:54.55 | Ozguli | it's dispellable or resistable easily |
| 20:55.08 | chronx | and its applied instantly almost on every hit |
| 20:55.11 | chronx | no CD |
| 20:55.17 | Ozguli | 40% with talents 5 points |
| 20:55.36 | Ozguli | hunters get goddamn 1-35 range shots |
| 20:55.45 | chronx | thats a bug afaik |
| 20:55.45 | Antiarc | You'll see high application rates from mutilate rogues, not so much from other rogues unless they're shiv spamming it |
| 20:55.49 | kadrahil | man that is going to own |
| 20:55.59 | Ozguli | that's going to be imba |
| 20:56.00 | chronx | hunters are definitely getting buffed to shit in 2.3 though |
| 20:56.09 | Antiarc | I'm happy - I have a hunter on my 5v5 |
| 20:56.10 | Ozguli | even the ptr hunters say it's imba as hell |
| 20:56.29 | kadrahil | i haven't had a chance to play with it on the ptr yet |
| 20:56.29 | chronx | it is |
| 20:56.39 | kadrahil | the osx ptr client is freaking buggy and crashes a lot |
| 20:56.40 | chronx | has anyone played with spell casting on PTR? i _HATE_ it |
| 20:56.55 | Ozguli | sucks? |
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| 20:57.06 | chronx | its like having "/stopcasting" in front of ALL of your spells |
| 20:57.09 | Ozguli | btw the rogue shdowstep talent gets nerfed righto? |
| 20:57.29 | Ellipsis | chronx: does it really cancel your casts? |
| 20:57.33 | chronx | YES |
| 20:57.33 | Ellipsis | so nothing is spammable anymore? |
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| 20:57.48 | kadrahil | oh what |
| 20:57.50 | kadrahil | that sucks |
| 20:57.50 | Ozguli | I don't need freaking 50% threat reduction on my next skill use... |
| 20:57.51 | Ellipsis | please tell me there's like a [nocasting] macro option or something |
| 20:57.51 | chronx | you have to wait until the cast is done to cast again or it'll interrupt it |
| 20:57.58 | Ozguli | especially in pvp |
| 20:58.02 | Ellipsis | like the way you could do the spammable channeled spells |
| 20:58.03 | kadrahil | that is lame |
| 20:58.32 | Ozguli | what's with the smappable channeled currently? |
| 20:58.37 | chronx | ? |
| 20:59.00 | Ellipsis | /cast [nochanneling:Drain Life] Drain Life |
| 20:59.03 | Ellipsis | for example |
| 20:59.34 | chronx | i'm assuming that means drain life will only be casted if you're not already channeling it |
| 20:59.37 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 20:59.39 | chronx | i've neverseen that before |
| 20:59.43 | Ellipsis | so you can spam it and it won't reapply early |
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| 21:00.10 | Fin | yo Kalroth! |
| 21:00.16 | Kalroth | hej Fin! |
| 21:00.56 | chronx | imo blizz needs to stop 'balancing' classes around arena |
| 21:01.49 | Ozguli | normal fury warriors will be the shit |
| 21:02.10 | Ozguli | all fancy stuff goes to arms |
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| 21:02.48 | neenee | Something being 'the shit' means it's good. So does the 'all fancy stuff goes to arms' mean you're contradicting yourself? |
| 21:02.55 | neenee | Or am I just reading it wrong :| |
| 21:03.08 | swayenvoy | Anyone here in touch with AceComm-2.0? |
| 21:03.36 | tinyboom | if anyone wants: crysis single player demo :p http://na.llnet.cdn.ea.com/u/demos/Crysis_SP_Demo.exe ;) |
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| 21:03.48 | tinyboom | not tested yet and no guarantees:p |
| 21:03.52 | Ozguli | people want to be fury for pve |
| 21:04.04 | Ozguli | and arms will unlikely be the way to go for that |
| 21:04.36 | neenee | er okay |
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| 21:10.09 | Lothaer | what does it mean when a mod has a line going through it on WAU? |
| 21:10.12 | Chompers | oh man |
| 21:10.25 | Chompers | why'd the crysis demo end right there...why! |
| 21:10.28 | Ellipsis | looooool |
| 21:10.37 | Ellipsis | "what kind of vendor do I get Soul Shards from?" |
| 21:10.45 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 21:10.48 | Ozguli | ace damage meter addon? |
| 21:10.54 | Lothaer | recount |
| 21:11.08 | Lothaer | who asked that Wlli? |
| 21:11.12 | Antiarc | Assessment |
| 21:11.13 | CIA-7 | 03lilsparky * r53280 10LilSparkysWorkshop/ (3 files): |
| 21:11.13 | CIA-7 | LilSparkysWorkshop: |
| 21:11.14 | CIA-7 | - reworked vendor price support to use GetSellValue() api when available. |
| 21:11.15 | Lothaer | Elli* |
| 21:11.17 | Antiarc | Recount is spammy |
| 21:11.40 | Lothaer | Recount works fine for me lol |
| 21:11.48 | Ozguli | assessment? |
| 21:11.51 | Antiarc | Check the net traffic it sends sometime |
| 21:11.56 | Antiarc | It's ridiculously spammy |
| 21:11.58 | Ellipsis | Lothaer: someone on vent, they're playing a warlock alt for the first time |
| 21:12.05 | Antiarc | Chokes up a lot of your throttle quota. |
| 21:12.08 | Lothaer | ROFL LOLOLOL |
| 21:12.13 | Lothaer | Noob award |
| 21:12.19 | Lothaer | meh |
| 21:12.19 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 21:12.22 | Lothaer | i dont notice anything |
| 21:12.30 | Ellipsis | "no, see, I need the Soul Shards to create a Minor Healthstone..." |
| 21:12.35 | Antiarc | Don't complain to me when other people can't see your threat data then, thx :) |
| 21:12.39 | Lothaer | so what does it mean when a mod has a line going through it on WAU? |
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| 21:13.50 | kebinusan | hmm is there some way to tell how many arena teams there are in a bracket in a bg, the armory page stops at 5k listings |
| 21:14.09 | Ozguli | erm.. okay then, something similar to NECB? |
| 21:14.32 | Lothaer | three is nothing better then NECB imho |
| 21:14.41 | Lothaer | there* |
| 21:14.54 | Ozguli | I think so too |
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| 21:15.16 | Ozguli | althought some *huge* warning bar for enemy cast would be nice |
| 21:15.21 | Ellipsis | doesn't NECB do everything in the world? |
| 21:15.22 | durcyn | necb is total shit, pick up Antagonist |
| 21:15.38 | Ozguli | like in heroic mech where as a rogue I have kick/kidney shot all the time to prevent tank and me from getting killed |
| 21:15.43 | kadrahil | durcyn: rofl |
| 21:15.47 | chronx | theres not much that necb doesn't do |
| 21:16.04 | Lothaer | i like hte PvP audios with NECB lol |
| 21:16.07 | durcyn | kadrahil: why sugar coat it, it's sucked for the entire time it's existed |
| 21:16.18 | Cheads | disable them then? |
| 21:16.27 | Lothaer | what ever durcyn |
| 21:16.52 | Ozguli | I have KillingSpree with ut2004 sounds for pvp :P |
| 21:16.59 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 21:17.08 | Lothaer | i have Patch-X.mpq |
| 21:17.14 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 21:18.42 | Lothaer | ~leroy jenkins |
| 21:18.50 | Lothaer | ... |
| 21:19.56 | Ozguli | my friend liked to yell that as prot warrior... |
| 21:20.06 | Lothaer | i have the mod |
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| 21:20.24 | Ozguli | the mod? |
| 21:20.55 | Lothaer | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=750 |
| 21:21.03 | Lothaer | u have to change the .toc to current version |
| 21:21.25 | Lothaer | type /leeroy in game and it plays the audio for ya |
| 21:21.27 | chronx | can AceDB store an array of structures? idk what they're called in lua but in C++ it would be something like array of struct foo = {int x,y; }; |
| 21:21.58 | Lothaer | soo paid character rename now huh |
| 21:22.08 | Kemayo | chronx: Yup. Tables. |
| 21:22.13 | Nargiddley | arrays and structs are both just tables in lua |
| 21:22.17 | NivFreak | now you don't even have to transfer after you ninja something! |
| 21:22.26 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 21:22.37 | Ellipsis | woot |
| 21:22.39 | Lothaer | cost ya $10 bucks so alot more ninjas now |
| 21:22.54 | Kemayo | But at least they can only ninja every 90 days. |
| 21:22.59 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 21:23.01 | chronx | lol there was this joke of a holy paladin named Overthelimit on my server... he was so widely known as being a retard that he got his name changed |
| 21:23.42 | Lothaer | ooo and new NPCs on ships and zepplins htat sell stuff now too |
| 21:23.42 | NivFreak | Now if only I could get rid of a certain lvl 36 NE hunter on my server... |
| 21:24.13 | Ozguli | just go and level up NivFreak |
| 21:24.33 | Ozguli | there was a horrible melee huntard on mine always trying to go to ZF |
| 21:24.43 | Lothaer | Jumper Cables XL is no longer a trinket.??? |
| 21:24.47 | Ozguli | I wonder if he's still there, 5 months later... |
| 21:24.52 | chronx | i'm assuming the majority of you are lvl 70? |
| 21:24.56 | NivFreak | melee hunter lulz |
| 21:25.04 | Lothaer | yeah |
| 21:25.11 | Ozguli | my alt is almost on the right level to go there |
| 21:25.12 | Ellipsis | melee hunters are always funny |
| 21:25.24 | Ozguli | I saw a joke melee hunter in WSG :P |
| 21:25.34 | Ozguli | went yelling "I'm a melee huntard!" |
| 21:25.36 | NivFreak | it scares me that there are people who really think they can melee as hunters.. |
| 21:25.39 | aestil | ~seen tuller |
| 21:25.41 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 56m 41s ago, saying: 'well, take a look at the target of target frame code :)'. |
| 21:25.48 | Ozguli | and replied to me "of course, it's supposed to sound retarded" |
| 21:25.52 | Ozguli | pwned pretty much... |
| 21:26.07 | aestil | anyone having a problem with stances and bongos2? |
| 21:26.21 | Ozguli | aestil stealth counts as stance? No. |
| 21:26.51 | Benihime | Can anyone tell me does Recount sync like SWStats ? |
| 21:27.13 | Lothaer | nfi |
| 21:29.06 | chronx | jeez lua is weird compared to C |
| 21:29.43 | chronx | all this automagical type-conversion and memory management |
| 21:29.43 | Benihime | anyone know ? |
| 21:30.02 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53281 10Assessment/Modules/UnitData.lua: |
| 21:30.02 | CIA-7 | Assessment : |
| 21:30.02 | CIA-7 | - koKR typo fix |
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| 21:32.40 | Benihime | Can anyone tell me does Recount sync like SWStats ???? |
| 21:35.48 | Ellipsis | aestil |
| 21:36.07 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 21:36.09 | purl | nargiddley is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 52m 43s) #wowace (1h 52m 43s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 13m 56s, last said: 'arrays and structs are both just tables in lua'. |
| 21:36.19 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics ? |
| 21:37.19 | cncfanatics | how is acegui coming along Nargiddley ? |
| 21:37.37 | Nargiddley | basicly ready for alpha |
| 21:38.16 | nevcairiel | only some half-blockers left in Ace3 for public alpha, be patient :D |
| 21:38.32 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 21:38.38 | cncfanatics | me + patience ... |
| 21:39.00 | Ozguli | hmm. when does honor update? |
| 21:39.19 | chronx | 4am server time i think |
| 21:39.24 | Ozguli | doh |
| 21:39.28 | Ozguli | I go sleeping then |
| 21:39.34 | Nargiddley | ConfigDialog is pretty much finished with implementing the spec, needs a bit of tweaking for the frame behaviour but its mostly there |
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| 21:40.41 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/core.lua |
| 21:40.47 | Orionshock | im gona kill someone |
| 21:40.59 | Orionshock | not really but still |
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| 21:41.42 | Chompers | hey ckknight |
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| 21:50.01 | Antiarc | http://snippage.gabocorp.com/ |
| 21:50.03 | Antiarc | :O that is awesome |
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| 21:51.01 | aestil | Ellipsis |
| 21:53.29 | Ellipsis | hai |
| 21:53.41 | Ellipsis | will you look at my armory and tell me what to do next |
| 21:53.54 | Ellipsis | because other than raid my ass off, I'm at a loss |
| 21:54.15 | Ellipsis | I need a ring...where do I get a ring? |
| 21:54.49 | kadrahil | NAME |
| 21:54.50 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.55 | kadrahil | BUGS |
| 21:54.55 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.09 | kadrahil | best. manpage. ever. |
| 21:55.28 | kadrahil | with some stuff in between, but i just saw the BUGS line and stopped reading |
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| 21:58.19 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Built into Leopard, iirc. |
| 21:58.34 | Antiarc | Well, I'm a filthy windows user, so nyah! :P |
| 21:58.56 | Kalman| | Just sayin'! :P |
| 21:59.14 | Ellipsis | ~lart aestil |
| 21:59.14 | purl | stuffs aestil into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 21:59.27 | Kalman| | Ellipsis: Link me your armory in a query. |
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| 22:10.33 | CIA-7 | 03sylvanaar * r53282 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CopyChat.lua: Prat: Added support for copying formatted chat. Only implemented bbcode even though the HTML option is there |
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| 22:17.15 | Fisker- | Ellipsis |
| 22:17.24 | Fisker- | do a barrel roll |
| 22:17.46 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: you fix the editbox hide border option in prat yet? |
| 22:18.09 | Ellipsis | Fisker- |
| 22:18.12 | Ellipsis | have my babies |
| 22:18.14 | Fisker- | ok |
| 22:19.09 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yeah |
| 22:19.50 | Arrowmaster | it was starting to get annoying after a few days, my editbox just looks so wrong at 50% transparency with a border |
| 22:21.10 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster you could have fixed it |
| 22:21.17 | Arrowmaster | im lazy |
| 22:22.44 | kebinusan | hmm is there some way to tell how many arena teams there are in a bracket in a bg, the armory page stops at 5k listings |
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| 22:23.14 | Gagorian | Is there API to get shield block value total? |
| 22:23.44 | chronx | how to access an element of a table? |
| 22:23.58 | chronx | is it not foo[0] ? |
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| 22:24.09 | chronx | how do you* |
| 22:24.12 | Gagorian | Yes but tables start at 1 |
| 22:24.13 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 22:24.22 | Gagorian | Unless you specify otherwise |
| 22:24.23 | chronx | oh that explains it |
| 22:26.55 | Shieldz | hey, I'm trying to write a FuBar plugin to count the number of attuned people online and for some reason Ace says its enabled but FuBar is not recognizing it: http://ace.pastey.net/75845 |
| 22:27.03 | Shieldz | any ideas why? |
| 22:28.46 | kadrahil | what the crap |
| 22:28.54 | kadrahil | NOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:28.58 | kadrahil | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2649795319&sid=1 |
| 22:29.57 | kadrahil | well |
| 22:30.02 | kadrahil | i didn't really think it would happen |
| 22:30.06 | kadrahil | but i was being hopeful |
| 22:36.11 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r53284 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceConfigTab-3.0.lua: |
| 22:36.11 | CIA-7 | AceTab-3.0: AceConfigTab |
| 22:36.11 | CIA-7 | - filled in skeleton of the wordlist function; still need to figure out how to make the "/command" -> options_table conversion |
| 22:36.40 | Kemayo | Shieldz: Off the top of my head, on line 54 "setText" should be "SetText". |
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| 22:40.14 | Lothaer | http://www.actiontrip.com/comics/pics/at_comic228.jpg |
| 22:40.16 | Lothaer | lol |
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| 22:52.13 | Shieldz | hm.. I fixed that , but it still won't show up for FuBar.. I wonder if I'm not implemented a function it requires |
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| 22:55.20 | Fin | Arrowmaster: sylvanaar didn't break the editbox, I did |
| 22:55.23 | ZHaDoom | Whats the current / best method for creating ui's and a good resource for that? Im currently playing around with CreateFrame() , having fun trying to make a template frame with no luck =p |
| 22:55.26 | Fin | and no, it's not fixed yet |
| 22:55.37 | Arrowmaster | mines fixed it seems |
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| 22:58.01 | Fin | oh, maybe he has then |
| 22:58.03 | Fin | boffo |
| 22:58.25 | Fin | it's ironic, Prat is the addon I update least frequently cos I use the SVN version directly in my AddOns directory |
| 22:58.50 | Fin | ZHaDoom: WoWWiki.com, mostly |
| 22:59.41 | dylanm | ZHaDoom: As with most things, the best thing to do is read code :-/ |
| 23:00.35 | sylvanaar | fin you know wau will update your svn working copy for you |
| 23:00.50 | ZHaDoom | check and check =) been doing both, always fun to see comments like (this example is very out of date) |
| 23:01.09 | Fin | sylvanaar: oh? I haven't updated it in ages - the net setup one stopped working for some reason and I just started using the older version I had installed |
| 23:01.27 | Fin | it works fine as far as I can tell, crashes quite quickly but doesn't actually crash, if you know what I mean |
| 23:01.43 | Fin | I get the "this program needs to be shut down" thingy, but WAU works fine in the background |
| 23:01.50 | Fin | I should update WAU |
| 23:01.58 | dylanm | ZHaDoom: Most of them are. I take it you've already used the Blizzard tool to extract the lua and interface art files that Blizzard uses? |
| 23:02.19 | dylanm | ZHaDoom: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3999-DevTools.html is pretty useful |
| 23:02.27 | ZHaDoom | yup. |
| 23:02.28 | sylvanaar | ah, i think that was the .43 version |
| 23:02.45 | ZHaDoom | thanks. ill look in to it |
| 23:04.03 | sylvanaar | fin if you have the command line svn client - and teh current wau, you can uncheck "skip svn working copies" |
| 23:04.09 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53285 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: |
| 23:04.09 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Curator: |
| 23:04.09 | CIA-7 | - Berserk bar: 10 sec -> 10 min |
| 23:06.12 | Funkeh` | nowai |
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| 23:09.11 | CIA-7 | 03fin * r53286 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Sync.lua): |
| 23:09.11 | CIA-7 | Recount: |
| 23:09.11 | CIA-7 | - added option to toggle syncing between players (widely reported as causing huge amounts of lag in raids); thanks to Kalroth for the patches |
| 23:09.28 | Fin | sylvanaar: thanks, I'll try that |
| 23:11.11 | aestil | bongos2, setting stealth up as a stance, somethings not working properly [ellipsis] |
| 23:11.17 | Ellipsis | moo? |
| 23:11.22 | Fin | oom |
| 23:11.40 | Ellipsis | no u |
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| 23:12.22 | Fin | your mum |
| 23:12.50 | Ellipsis | yeah she's always oom |
| 23:12.58 | Ellipsis | she needs to l2pot |
| 23:14.22 | stavmar | some one have that link regarding hunter range not being 1 yd? |
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| 23:15.26 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53287 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua: |
| 23:15.26 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 23:15.26 | CIA-7 | - removing delTable |
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| 23:32.43 | Funkeh` | Fin, is it off by default now? |
| 23:32.45 | CIA-7 | 03fin * r53288 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 23:32.45 | CIA-7 | Recount: |
| 23:32.45 | CIA-7 | - updated so that sync is enabled by default; there should be no change now for |
| 23:32.45 | CIA-7 | existing users, only the option to toggle syncing if they choose (d'oh me: I was |
| 23:32.45 | CIA-7 | looking at the translations before - mistook "sync" = true as enabling syncing |
| 23:32.46 | CIA-7 | by default) |
| 23:33.16 | Fin | hahah |
| 23:33.27 | Fin | 2 seconds from asking -> fix! |
| 23:33.47 | Funkeh` | it should be off by default |
| 23:33.51 | Funkeh` | or your fix is worthless |
| 23:33.57 | Fin | no |
| 23:34.15 | Funkeh` | yes as most people that use recount don't know that it even fucking syncs |
| 23:34.20 | Funkeh` | with my experience anyway |
| 23:34.23 | Fin | updates shouldn't silently change behaviour that people are expecting |
| 23:34.35 | Funkeh` | It sohuld when the behaviour sucks balls |
| 23:34.41 | Funkeh` | in this case, it does |
| 23:34.42 | Kalroth | There's another sub-fix in it too though, it changes the priority of the update messages |
| 23:34.43 | Fin | if it doesn't sync, it's not going to be accurate; they can turn it off if they like |
| 23:34.55 | Fin | if you feel so stringly about it, go ahead and change it yourself, but I'm not going to |
| 23:35.04 | Funkeh` | what a load of bullshit you don't need sync for accuracy |
| 23:35.09 | Fin | OK |
| 23:35.11 | Fin | if you say so |
| 23:35.17 | Funkeh` | I do |
| 23:35.25 | Fin | then it must be so |
| 23:35.26 | Funkeh` | and yes the priority needs changed also |
| 23:35.32 | Kalroth | You do, but it's the last 5-3% we're talking about. It wont be 100% accurate without syncing. |
| 23:35.41 | Kalroth | It was, Funkeh |
| 23:35.48 | Fin | are you drunk? |
| 23:35.49 | Kalroth | From "ALERT" to "BULK" |
| 23:35.53 | Funkeh` | Yeah WWS must magically be accurate then |
| 23:36.00 | Fin | I mean, it's cool if you are, I am |
| 23:36.07 | Kalroth | What gives you the idea that WWS is accurate? |
| 23:36.15 | Funkeh` | The fact it is? |
| 23:36.22 | Fin | facts dude, don't argue with the facts |
| 23:36.32 | Fin | not with an angry drunk man, anyway |
| 23:36.42 | Kalroth | That's an opinion, not a fact. You'd have to research to gather facts. :) |
| 23:36.57 | Funkeh` | With comabtlog range set to 200 you can get better results than mods that sync, since most suck at it anyway |
| 23:37.14 | Funkeh` | Its researched from 2 years of wow, thanks |
| 23:37.16 | xyu | hey what was that weapon that used to be used in WSG a long long time ago that woudl cause the player attacked to become immune |
| 23:37.16 | Fin | that's YOUR opinion but the FACT is that your OPINION isn't FACT, Kalroth. now do you see? DO YOU SEE |
| 23:37.19 | xyu | and drop the flag |
| 23:37.30 | Kalroth | Yes, if the WoW client made sure that you actually got all packets within 200 yards. Which you don't. Which has been proved over and over. |
| 23:37.34 | xyu | wasn't it something Gavel? |
| 23:37.38 | Fin | jesus Funkeh`, feeling a bit aggressive today? perhaps we should fight? |
| 23:37.49 | Funkeh` | whatever Fin |
| 23:37.58 | dylanm | DROP THE CAGE |
| 23:38.19 | Fin | aww, really? I get a "whatever"? does diddums want to fight later after he's had a little sulk? |
| 23:38.31 | hyperChipmunk | Fin: that's enough |
| 23:38.45 | Chompers | on all fours? |
| 23:38.46 | Fin | yes it is, I do apologise |
| 23:38.47 | Chompers | oh my |
| 23:39.24 | Fin | sorry Funkeh`, I don't mean to wind you up - well I did, but I shouldn't've have - but you did seem a bit unnecessarily aggressive, that's all |
| 23:42.56 | Funkeh` | I don't mean to be aggresive at you Fin, more of your opinion that 'syncing is needed' which is just a plain lie, as long as all data is in 200 yards its 100% accurate, talk about packet loss you have a higher chance of experiencing that from syncing, especially recount the amount of data it bombards to the point it can disconnect people, Once I got my guild to switch to a different meter all the players that would dc 'suddenly' stoppe |
| 23:42.58 | Funkeh` | d, and somehow got 5 extra fps in BT |
| 23:43.51 | Antiarc | assessment has been 100% accurate with multi-log WWSes in our runs |
| 23:43.56 | Antiarc | Which means that it's fine without synching |
| 23:44.28 | nevcairiel | we compared multiple single-log WWSes of different raids |
| 23:44.37 | nevcairiel | mostly 100% identical |
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| 23:44.51 | nevcairiel | increasing log range gets you all you want |
| 23:44.54 | Fin | Funkeh`, please, honestly I don't care whether syncing is required or not; the fact is that it's arguable (people are arguing about it) and I'm not committing an update to change the default behaviour of an addon without really understanding myself what I'm doing |
| 23:44.58 | Fin | that's all |
| 23:45.11 | Funkeh` | Fin, thats fair enough |
| 23:45.32 | Ellipsis | can we all kiss and make up now? |
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| 23:45.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
| 23:45.35 | Kalroth | I've had dual clients running, characters running almost next to each other and I saw loss of messages. This is two players on different accounts, within 40 yards of each other. Now admittedly, I haven't tried this since 2.1, so 2.2 or 2.3 might have addressed it, but I doubt it. |
| 23:45.37 | Fin | hugs all round! :) |
| 23:45.45 | hyperChipmunk | i'll settle with not kicking them |
| 23:45.51 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 23:46.02 | Ellipsis | you're such a nice guy hyperChipmunk |
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| 23:46.36 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk can kick me i'll ban hes ass ont eh forums for a century =D |
| 23:46.43 | hyperChipmunk | oh no |
| 23:46.49 | Funkeh` | not that he uses them |
| 23:47.03 | hyperChipmunk | i'm sure that will be a crushing blow for me if i ever decide to visit them |
| 23:47.09 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:47.59 | Antiarc | Man |
| 23:48.01 | Antiarc | My dice suck |
| 23:48.06 | hyperChipmunk | besides, I'd need an account first before you could ban it |
| 23:48.09 | Antiarc | 250 sunfury researches killed and no enchanting formula yet |
| 23:52.05 | Ellipsis | uh... |
| 23:52.09 | Ellipsis | you mean the geologists? |
| 23:52.42 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22551 |
| 23:53.16 | Ellipsis | huh, I must be remembering wrong |
| 23:53.20 | Ellipsis | still, 250 is a ton |
| 23:53.26 | Antiarc | 275 now. |
| 23:53.35 | Ellipsis | it took me like 30 or 40 |
| 23:54.58 | Antiarc | The good news is that I now have like 500g worth of signets/tomes |
| 23:55.24 | NivFreak | I wonder how long it'll take me to level tailoring |
| 23:55.26 | Antiarc | and uh |
| 23:55.31 | Antiarc | 9 stacks of super healing pots |
| 23:55.45 | Antiarc | go go pickpocketing |
| 23:56.07 | NivFreak | I've decided it's time to drop alchemy on my priest, and level tailoring |
| 23:56.13 | NivFreak | I wonder if I can max it by tomorrow |
| 23:56.14 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:56.19 | Dustwhisper | Woohooo KT DOWN! |
| 23:56.22 | Antiarc | WOOT! |
| 23:56.24 | Antiarc | Congrats! |
| 23:56.25 | NivFreak | nice |
| 23:56.52 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53289 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 23:56.52 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:56.52 | CIA-7 | - Fixed bug with sorting in the GUI for non-US clients |
