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| 00:04.41 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53606 10BigWigs/ (16 files in 5 dirs): |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-7 | - sync tweaks |
| 00:04.41 | CIA-7 | - add more personal triggers, change some |
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| 00:09.50 | Wobwork | hm, looking at it, I don't think I need all the functionality of LibBabbleInventory |
| 00:10.01 | Wobwork | since all I need are the translations of the major categories |
| 00:10.23 | Wobwork | LBI does a whole heap more than I need =) |
| 00:10.52 | Wobwork | unless I implement some sort of ordering ability |
| 00:10.56 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r53607 10BankStack/ (core.lua sort.lua): BankStack: Fix sorting. ZOMG THWUNK FAST. |
| 00:10.59 | Wobwork | which I'm somewhat loath to do |
| 00:11.36 | Kemayo_ | Wobwork: MrPlow2 is losing the sorting? |
| 00:13.01 | Wobwork | No |
| 00:13.16 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53608 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: bugfix bloodboil counter, should reset to 1 rage phase > normal phase |
| 00:13.16 | Wobwork | by ordering ability, I kinda mean user defined oens |
| 00:13.22 | Kemayo | Oh, okay. |
| 00:13.57 | Wobwork | I just need Nymbia to fix up PT3.1 =) |
| 00:16.19 | Wobwork | Kemayo: btw, your stacking could work well with special bags |
| 00:16.33 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53609 10BankStack/ (8 files in 2 dirs): BankStack: Merge changes from dev to trunk. |
| 00:16.53 | Wobwork | all you have to do is find special bags, then filter the output on whether it fits those bags and set those bags as the target_bags |
| 00:17.33 | Kemayo | Wobwork: I'd probably also want to tell it to put empty slots as sinks in that case. |
| 00:17.58 | Kemayo | Wobwork: Does the game expose what fits in special bags anywhere, or would I need something like PT3? |
| 00:18.06 | Wobwork | You'd need PT |
| 00:18.13 | Wobwork | unfortunately |
| 00:18.20 | Wobwork | I -wish- the api exposed that =) |
| 00:18.43 | Wobwork | PT -does- have the specific category to see if an item fits in the bags though |
| 00:19.07 | aestil | i'm so damn tired. |
| 00:19.19 | Wobwork | hehe I like your addon messages, Kemayo |
| 00:19.21 | Wobwork | Very zen |
| 00:19.27 | Ellipsis | ouch |
| 00:19.46 | aestil | did you not have a pallly tank and shadow priest for your SH run Ellipsis ? |
| 00:19.48 | Ellipsis | for some reason half my buttons stopped working in the middle of a boss fight |
| 00:19.49 | Kemayo | I'm a strong believer in addon personality. :D |
| 00:19.57 | Ellipsis | no soul shatter = gg me |
| 00:20.15 | Wobwork | Kemayo: hehe, as am I (as has been previously shown) |
| 00:20.17 | Ellipsis | aestil: newp |
| 00:20.24 | Ellipsis | guild group though, so we're not having trouble |
| 00:21.30 | aestil | are you guys talking about vagina enough in party chat? |
| 00:21.40 | aestil | thats the key to a good group. |
| 00:21.45 | Ellipsis | they might be on vent, iunno |
| 00:21.48 | Ellipsis | I'm not on vent |
| 00:22.12 | Arrowmaster | woot for halo3 halloween infection event! finally got my overkill achievement by killing 5 humans in a row as an invisible zombie with a gravity hammer |
| 00:22.42 | aestil | wow. i don't know what that means. |
| 00:22.55 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 00:22.56 | aestil | i wonder if bad author's make a good living. |
| 00:23.05 | Ellipsis | they do |
| 00:23.18 | aestil | i should be a bad author then. |
| 00:23.30 | Ellipsis | good plan |
| 00:23.45 | NightHawkAtWork | bad authors often make a better living than good authors, because they can produce their crap much faster than a good author can write a quality piece of literature |
| 00:23.56 | NightHawkAtWork | and people are idiots who usually don't know any better |
| 00:24.41 | Ellipsis | yeah, I woulda said something like that if I wasn't too lazy |
| 00:24.49 | Ellipsis | thanks for doing the typing for me NightHawkAtWork! |
| 00:24.57 | NightHawkAtWork | no problem |
| 00:25.03 | NightHawkAtWork | not doing much else while I'm slacking off here at work |
| 00:26.49 | aestil | ok,i don't think i could be a prolific author. |
| 00:26.55 | aestil | just a bad one. |
| 00:27.01 | _rane | can you guys suggest me an addon that just helps at opening mail and retrieving the contents like postman? |
| 00:27.12 | _rane | postman and bulkmail don't work too well together |
| 00:27.24 | Antiarc | Postal is my mod of choice |
| 00:27.25 | kenlyric | the one right below bulkmail? |
| 00:27.38 | kenlyric | called "bulkmail2inbox?" |
| 00:28.54 | Kemayo | I <3 BulkMail. I use OpenAll+ExpressMail for picking up mail, though. |
| 00:29.19 | _rane | i'll try bulkmail2inbox |
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| 00:31.22 | _rane | wow, fantastic |
| 00:31.30 | _rane | has "take all" feature |
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| 00:33.31 | xyu | mm updated pitbull and now all the frames are dimmed and portraits are reenabled >_< |
| 00:33.47 | aestil | some cycircled skins should be purged from the earth. |
| 00:33.49 | Ellipsis | did you forget to disable your modules? :P |
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| 00:34.15 | aestil | i would prefer gaping assholes around my action buttons over a few of those skins. |
| 00:34.26 | Moozh | so |
| 00:34.30 | Moozh | go make a goatse skin |
| 00:34.30 | Ellipsis | aestil: ask and ye shall receive |
| 00:34.51 | |Stan| | best cycircled skin is VolM *cough* |
| 00:34.51 | aestil | someone who refers to goatse. |
| 00:34.58 | aestil | goon? |
| 00:35.07 | Moozh | huh? |
| 00:35.10 | aestil | I have Vol with no gloss. |
| 00:35.15 | aestil | is that VolM? |
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| 00:35.26 | |Stan| | yes :D |
| 00:35.33 | aestil | you are correct then sir. |
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| 00:35.48 | |Stan| | :) |
| 00:37.08 | kenlyric | aestil: uh, you aren't seriously suggesting goons invented goatse, are you? |
| 00:37.44 | kenlyric | goatse was the first gaping asshole on the internet, before SA, before Myspace, before even AOL |
| 00:37.55 | Moozh | kek |
| 00:38.05 | kenlyric | (I |
| 00:38.11 | Moozh | i thought aol was the original sin though |
| 00:38.27 | kenlyric | I'm stretching the truth about AOL, I think. |
| 00:38.47 | Ellipsis | yeah, but it was worth it for the reference |
| 00:38.56 | kenlyric | just remember, when the internet becomes sentient, it will be from the largest collection of users. |
| 00:39.39 | kenlyric | we passed out of irc, usenet, and aol unscathed. Now it's myspace and all its ilk. |
| 00:39.47 | |Stan| | aestil: are you using Vol with modified images or VolM from svn? |
| 00:41.28 | Kemayo | Wobwork: On the off-chance: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2720512628&postId=27200980860&sid=1#0 |
| 00:42.52 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 00:44.25 | Moozh | hm |
| 00:44.34 | Moozh | there's a bot in here that gives you a basic summary of your character, correct? |
| 00:45.29 | kebinusan | ThraeBot |
| 00:45.35 | Moozh | how do i use it? |
| 00:45.37 | kebinusan | !char us Shu'halo Kebinusan |
| 00:45.40 | ThraeBot | kebinusan: Kebinusan, Level 70 Human Warlock (42/0/19). 10410 HP; 8635 Mana; 144 mana regen; 226 spell crit; 201 spell hit; 996 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1050); 113 shadow dmg (1109); 4.59% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 1357 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dmg7d ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38w6cc ][ Updated: Wed Oct 31 16:49:39 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:45.42 | Moozh | oh |
| 00:45.45 | Moozh | thank you |
| 00:45.49 | kebinusan | you can also send him tells |
| 00:45.54 | Moozh | that i will do |
| 00:46.09 | xyu | Ugh i just installed TipLib like twice , and i'm sitll getting the error [2007/10/31 20:43:48-606-x1]: TinyTipExtras\TinyTipExtras.lua:22: Cannot find a library instance of TipLib-1.0. |
| 00:46.45 | |Stan| | sag_ich_nicht: YOU KILLED HIM |
| 00:46.52 | aestil | |Stan|: uh. i got it from the cycirlcled thread |
| 00:47.23 | Moozh | hrm |
| 00:47.31 | Moozh | apparently i'm too stupid to use the command in PM to thraebot |
| 00:47.36 | |Stan| | aestil: oh ok |
| 00:47.38 | Ellipsis | xyu: did you restart your game? |
| 00:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:46] <|Stan|> sag_ich_nicht: YOU KILLED HIM <--excellent. |
| 00:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | now all raids on sunwell are doomed |
| 00:48.16 | Moozh | !char US Kel'Thuzad Renalldo |
| 00:48.18 | ThraeBot | Moozh: Renalldo, Level 70 Human Priest (29/27/5). 8321 HP; 8055 Mana; 196 mana regen; 35 mp5; 144 spell crit; 46 spell hit; 765 +spell dmg; 813 +heal; 43 holy dmg (808); 4.98% dodge; 167 resilience;[[ TBR: 1421 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yspkuy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v4p38 ][ Updated: Wed Oct 31 16:52:18 2007 EST ]] |
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| 00:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 00:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i am bored |
| 00:51.31 | sag_ich_nicht | do something |
| 00:52.59 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 00:53.06 | sag_ich_nicht | now just let me sell those recordings... |
| 00:54.28 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:54.30 | Ellipsis | that never worked for me |
| 00:54.33 | Ellipsis | y u hax |
| 00:55.01 | aestil | i'm suprised more girls don't take their clothes off for easy money, i suspect its fear of future children seeing images. |
| 00:55.11 | KarlThePagan | cultural |
| 00:55.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it's because i have a IR camera Ellipsis. |
| 00:55.15 | sag_ich_nicht | *an |
| 00:55.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i filter the IR out, fakecolor it then overlay it over the normal video |
| 00:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | *hint hint* |
| 00:56.14 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 00:57.03 | sag_ich_nicht | (i.e. i'm selling nude dancing videos of you) |
| 00:57.26 | Ellipsis | um |
| 00:57.52 | Ellipsis | that never worked for me either... |
| 00:58.06 | sag_ich_nicht | well then you were just plain doing it wrong |
| 00:58.18 | sag_ich_nicht | we could enter a lucrative business relation in that direction |
| 00:58.42 | Wobwork | btw |
| 00:58.56 | Wobwork | if anyone has not heard the Great Big Sea cover of It's the End of the World as We know it |
| 00:59.08 | Wobwork | It's like a sped up bluegrass version... |
| 00:59.10 | Wobwork | http://home.jonandnic.com/music/Various/Pop/(Great%20Big%20Sea)%20End%20of%20the%20World.mp3 |
| 00:59.25 | Wobwork | They manage to sing the entire song one minute faster than REM |
| 00:59.40 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: you mean I'm not supposed to do the WoW human female dance? |
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| 01:00.05 | Ellipsis | ??? |
| 01:00.06 | Wobwork | headsigh? |
| 01:00.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you have to use the female NE dance! |
| 01:00.16 | Wobwork | female belf dance? |
| 01:00.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (or that one) |
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| 01:03.50 | Ellipsis | whoa Wobwork |
| 01:03.59 | Ellipsis | just finished downloading that song x.x |
| 01:07.41 | Wobwork | Ellipsis: crazy innit? |
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| 01:08.32 | Lothaer | besides CTMail are there any other mods that do the same thing? or is CTMail the best? |
| 01:08.40 | Moozh | postal |
| 01:08.41 | Wobwork | BulkMail? |
| 01:09.02 | ZealotOnAStick | ctmail is like the worst. |
| 01:09.03 | ZealotOnAStick | postal, bulk mail + bulkmail inbox |
| 01:09.03 | ZealotOnAStick | postman |
| 01:09.13 | Lothaer | yeah all i really want is Open All option |
| 01:09.15 | hyperChipmunk | bm saves puppies |
| 01:09.25 | Kemayo | Lothaer: OpenAll. |
| 01:09.31 | Kemayo | If that's all you want. :P |
| 01:09.39 | hyperChipmunk | bmi and turn off the gui |
| 01:09.44 | ZealotOnAStick | I still use Postal, it does the trick. |
| 01:09.51 | ZealotOnAStick | BM+BMI is supposedly pretty nifty |
| 01:09.54 | Lothaer | thanks Kemayo |
| 01:09.55 | hyperChipmunk | /bmi gui |
| 01:10.02 | hyperChipmunk | /kick kemayo |
| 01:10.26 | Kemayo | Mwahaha! |
| 01:12.20 | Kirkburn | Question - the hunter dead zone - completely removed, right? |
| 01:12.25 | Moozh | yes |
| 01:12.35 | Kirkburn | Good, people keep saying different >_> |
| 01:12.45 | Moozh | you can melee between 1-5 yards, and shoot 5+ yards |
| 01:12.53 | Moozh | so at exactly 5 yards, you can shoot and melee |
| 01:13.02 | Kirkburn | 'cept that will never happen :P |
| 01:13.07 | Wobwork | well |
| 01:13.14 | Wobwork | you can melee the bloke in front of you |
| 01:13.18 | Wobwork | and shoot the one behind him |
| 01:13.22 | Wobwork | like Indiana Jones |
| 01:13.39 | Kirkburn | Although I guess it depends on how accurate measurements are in WoW, and how they're performed |
| 01:14.42 | Wobwork | how do you mean? |
| 01:16.54 | xerawx | so hunters are the new warlocks i hear |
| 01:17.39 | xerawx | i just tried out the new loldiscipline talent on the ptr, had it dispelled by arcane shot before i could get the first heal off to see if it even worked |
| 01:18.00 | xerawx | respecced holy/disc |
| 01:18.02 | xerawx | good times |
| 01:18.32 | harldephin | omg .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvLDm8821jQ |
| 01:21.49 | Tekkub | every time I see "LF2M, need healer and tank" I laugh at the idiots |
| 01:22.09 | Tekkub | why even bother forming up if you've not found a tank yet? |
| 01:22.35 | [gk]Hotphoenix | because the world doesn't revolve around one group of people? |
| 01:22.38 | [gk]Hotphoenix | ;p |
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| 01:23.36 | Wobwork | Tekkub: Because that would require that every single group be started by the tank and healer |
| 01:23.46 | Wobwork | which is fucking ridiculous |
| 01:24.05 | Tekkub | nah, I find PUGs okey if I find a tank |
| 01:24.25 | Wobwork | and how do you know there aren't tanks out there who don't want to bother getting a group together |
| 01:24.26 | Tekkub | but I've never had one happen when I just invite the first DPS I see |
| 01:24.33 | Wobwork | but are happy to join an almost full one |
| 01:25.27 | Tekkub | cause I've never seen it? |
| 01:25.41 | Tekkub | I think the tanks on my server know it's not hard to find DPS :P |
| 01:25.59 | xerawx | it depends on the server imo.. but mostly tanks are becoming huge primadonnas, worse than priests ever were |
| 01:26.08 | xerawx | because everyone can heal these days |
| 01:26.10 | Tekkub | and healers aren't too hard to come by anymore either, usually end up with hybrids fighting over who will MH |
| 01:26.22 | [gk]Hotphoenix | aye thats why deathknights are inc |
| 01:27.21 | Tekkub | I think DK's gonna only be good for one thing... |
| 01:27.44 | Ellipsis | ~seen saladfork |
| 01:27.47 | purl | saladfork <n=SaladFor@pool-71-248-160-155.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 34d 23h 6m 45s ago, saying: 'Camci - You can /msg ThraeBot and it'll respond'. |
| 01:27.47 | Tekkub | grinding thru 60-80 and getting the cash out of quests without doing the 1-60ish grind |
| 01:27.51 | Ellipsis | grrr |
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| 01:58.58 | CIA-7 | 03pericles * r53610 10InventoryOnPar/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:58.58 | CIA-7 | InventoryOnPar: inital commit |
| 01:58.58 | CIA-7 | - IOP shows you by colour coding what kit you have is most in need of |
| 01:58.58 | CIA-7 | replacement. It also gives your kit a score for easy comparison with others. |
| 01:58.58 | CIA-7 | Great for raid leaders checking the kit levels of the raid to see they are up to |
| 01:58.58 | CIA-7 | scratch. |
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| 02:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | happy halloween. |
| 02:01.29 | JoshBorke | happy halloween |
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| 02:13.03 | Ellipsis | any locks heard yet whether Shadow Embrace does/doesn't count for Soul Siphon after the 2.3 changes? |
| 02:13.29 | Ellipsis | ohshi |
| 02:15.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Excellent. |
| 02:15.58 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 02:16.32 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 02:16.35 | sag_ich_nicht | you are now manually breathing |
| 02:17.32 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 02:18.43 | sag_ich_nicht | look i'm just bored :( |
| 02:21.52 | Antiar1 | Does anyone know what that clickable scroll behind the Black Temple meeting stone is for? |
| 02:21.58 | Ellipsis | I've always wondered |
| 02:22.09 | Ellipsis | I think it's just fail |
| 02:22.29 | Tekkub | it's a waitlist for guilds with too many raiders |
| 02:23.05 | |Stan| | lol? |
| 02:23.28 | kenlyric | it teleports you to the sunwell. |
| 02:23.52 | sag_ich_nicht | it gives you babies |
| 02:24.01 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 02:24.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis aren't you supposed to be on a plane |
| 02:24.30 | Tekkub | it's the 4th set of sen-jin village attack plans for that kolkar quest |
| 02:24.32 | Ellipsis | am I? |
| 02:24.45 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 02:24.50 | sag_ich_nicht | you know the whole babies thing. |
| 02:25.02 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 02:25.02 | kenlyric | if ZA is hard to get to, I can't imagine what sunwell is going to be like. |
| 02:25.03 | Ellipsis | right |
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| 02:25.17 | Tekkub | ZA isn't hard to get to... |
| 02:25.32 | kenlyric | right, there's a flight path now, isn't there. |
| 02:25.39 | Tekkub | people just cry cause they get flagged on PvP realms |
| 02:25.52 | kenlyric | and cause you had to ride from EPL. |
| 02:25.56 | Tekkub | even with the flight path, it's not that bad of a run |
| 02:25.57 | Wobwork | Where's it situated? |
| 02:26.25 | Tekkub | not much diff than running to, say, AQ or Cavern of Time |
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| 02:26.45 | Tekkub | long flight, run across 2/3 of a zone |
| 02:26.48 | kenlyric | CoT/AQ were a horrid fucking mess. |
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| 02:27.14 | Tekkub | CoT blows because the stone is placed ~5 min run away from the swirlies |
| 02:27.15 | kenlyric | punishment for old blackrock mountain |
| 02:27.25 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 02:27.34 | Tekkub | it's fast stone -> instance... not so fast other way |
| 02:27.34 | Wobwork | stupidly long run |
| 02:27.38 | kenlyric | but it's a fun run on a dragon. |
| 02:27.45 | Bejitt | Tekkub: errr the mini dragon ride? |
| 02:27.48 | Tekkub | needs an exit dragon |
| 02:27.52 | Bejitt | ahhh |
| 02:27.53 | Bejitt | yeah |
| 02:27.59 | sag_ich_nicht | not |
| 02:28.00 | kenlyric | mages are for exit |
| 02:28.01 | Wobwork | meh, hearth =P |
| 02:28.13 | sag_ich_nicht | you all should just reroll paladins |
| 02:28.19 | sag_ich_nicht | then it wouldn't be such a long ride |
| 02:28.20 | Wobwork | why would you walk out anyway? It's a hell of a walk to the nearest fp |
| 02:28.27 | Ellipsis | you mean failadins? |
| 02:28.31 | Wobwork | sag_ich_nicht: It's true! we could bubblehearth |
| 02:28.38 | Tekkub | wasted an hour in the past because of a stupid party member that didn't accept their summon, then gets in the wrong instance, then can't get into ours, then disbands and gets hearthed... |
| 02:28.56 | Tekkub | then starts Thrall before we're ready... |
| 02:29.17 | Tekkub | god if she wasn't a guildie I would left at the whole wrong instance bit |
| 02:29.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobwork moar liek crusader aura |
| 02:29.31 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 02:29.35 | Wobwork | crusader aura is shiny |
| 02:29.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: better than whorelock |
| 02:29.40 | kenlyric | I go in the wrong instance all the time. |
| 02:29.42 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 02:29.47 | kenlyric | that thing needs a fucking label |
| 02:30.08 | Tekkub | no, not wrong zone... she was in durnholde, just not OUR durnholde |
| 02:30.16 | Ellipsis | Tekkub, and there you see the use of /gkick? |
| 02:30.20 | kenlyric | how's that her fault? |
| 02:30.28 | Tekkub | and look at the scenery outside, you can tell which is which :P |
| 02:30.29 | kenlyric | how does that even happen? :) |
| 02:30.30 | Wobwork | she was locked to another instance? |
| 02:30.37 | Wobwork | heroic? |
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| 02:30.51 | Ellipsis | if it was on heroic she'd be left outside rather than zoning into a normal |
| 02:30.57 | Tekkub | no, she'd never even done the instance how could it be heroic |
| 02:30.58 | kenlyric | Tekkub: I know. it's just annoying. i want a sign. |
| 02:31.01 | kenlyric | and for them to be in order. |
| 02:31.04 | Tekkub | it was just a big fucking mess |
| 02:31.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if instance lock leave instance switch diffcult then back. |
| 02:31.18 | Tekkub | she got there... we were running in place so she relogged... |
| 02:31.26 | Tekkub | came back and got hearthed |
| 02:31.27 | Wobwork | I've got mapnotes for the Auchindon instances |
| 02:31.29 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: english. speak it! :P |
| 02:31.47 | Tekkub | we went out to summon, came back... she was in a different instance |
| 02:32.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i speak codenglish. |
| 02:32.07 | Tekkub | it was just a bunch of stupid |
| 02:32.16 | Tekkub | she didn't sheep, she didn't buff, no water... |
| 02:32.26 | Tekkub | started Thrall before we were ready... |
| 02:32.33 | Tekkub | it was just plain stupid |
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| 02:36.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: but fine, here, have some pseudocode: if(instance=locked){instance_difficulty_before=instance_difficulty; instance_difficulty=instance_difficulty - instance_difficulty; instance_difficulty=instance_difficulty_before} |
| 02:36.42 | kenlyric | buncha cruncha muncha stupid |
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| 02:40.45 | sag_ich_nicht | now i go to bed |
| 02:40.46 | sag_ich_nicht | night. |
| 02:41.47 | kenlyric | so, here's a fun fact you might not know. The EPT test is really very, very clear. |
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| 02:42.41 | Wobwork | EPT? |
| 02:43.07 | kenlyric | pregnancy test. no namby-pampy lines to work out. |
| 02:43.30 | Wobwork | simple blue or pink spot? |
| 02:43.35 | Wobwork | or something? |
| 02:44.16 | Tekkub | I invited your friend the Weighted Companion Cube... but he cannot make it because you MURDERED HIM |
| 02:44.18 | kenlyric | no, says "pregnant". just staring at us. |
| 02:44.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | kenlyric: you're pregnant? |
| 02:44.50 | kenlyric | so anyway, I've apparently spawned |
| 02:44.53 | Tekkub | but the "not" is half faded? |
| 02:45.05 | Tekkub | that's not very clear |
| 02:45.06 | kenlyric | there is no Not in sight. |
| 02:45.11 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53611 10BankStack/core.lua: BankStack: Fix IsSpecialtyBag for poor shmucks with empty bag slots. |
| 02:45.13 | Wobwork | kenlyric: congratulations =) |
| 02:45.16 | Tekkub | now... PREGGERS and BARREN... that's clear |
| 02:45.37 | NightHawkTheSan1 | indeed, Tekkub |
| 02:45.39 | kenlyric | Preggers and Free works |
| 02:45.52 | kenlyric | -s |
| 02:46.14 | Tekkub | how about Big Money and Whammy |
| 02:46.26 | kenlyric | I approve |
| 02:46.49 | Tekkub | and the stick says "STOP!" on it |
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| 02:52.04 | aestil | anyonoe else notice that the meteor warning for al'ar is off? |
| 02:53.40 | starlon | never payed attention. |
| 02:54.33 | aestil | we have B team raid tonight. |
| 02:54.59 | aestil | so we are noticing when warnings are late |
| 02:55.04 | aestil | he metoer's before the warning says he is goign to. |
| 02:55.07 | Tekkub | I'm trying to get my guild ta name the new team 3 "Team Discovery Channel" |
| 02:55.25 | starlon | I like the name "Team Repair Bill" |
| 02:55.40 | starlon | That's our melee group |
| 02:55.47 | Tekkub | If not TDS, then "Therapists" |
| 02:56.38 | Tekkub | granted, I'm also trying to get them to rename the guild <The Pen is Mightier> |
| 02:59.43 | abyx | anyone have tips for a mage in reliquary of souls? |
| 03:01.03 | Wobwork | Jap anus relations |
| 03:01.13 | Wobwork | < .. > |
| 03:01.49 | Tekkub | well, my ideal name is still a horde guild... <Thirteen Inches> |
| 03:01.58 | Tekkub | but I don't wanna GM again |
| 03:02.19 | NightHawkTheSan1 | so.. a bad day: I'm heating up left-over stroganoff on the stove and have a kettle on for tea. When the stroganoff is done, isntead of pouring it into my bowl, i pour it into my tea cup.. which has the tea bag in it. >< |
| 03:02.27 | Wobwork | >< |
| 03:02.34 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 03:02.39 | starlon | My fav was LrndToLuvInPrison |
| 03:03.05 | Wobwork | <Built Horde Tough> is a classic |
| 03:03.19 | Tekkub | I'm still trying to decipher <ur to late i already scaned> |
| 03:03.30 | Tekkub | I *think* they're an AH mule guild... |
| 03:03.31 | Wobwork | I already scanned? |
| 03:03.32 | aestil | i like atlas shrugged for a guild name. |
| 03:03.35 | Wobwork | oh |
| 03:03.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: *shudder* |
| 03:03.52 | Tekkub | the ones I've seen have dumb names like Bling |
| 03:03.52 | Wobwork | and <Gnomeland Security> |
| 03:04.02 | Tekkub | and the hide in Exodar whene noone goes |
| 03:04.09 | Wobwork | although <Gnomercy> is great |
| 03:04.11 | aestil | NightHawkTheSan1: what? my favorite book ever. |
| 03:04.24 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: please tell me you're kidding? |
| 03:04.29 | aestil | NightHawkTheSan1: no. |
| 03:04.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | >< |
| 03:04.39 | aestil | NightHawkTheSan1: fountainhead is pretty good too. |
| 03:04.41 | aestil | just not as good. |
| 03:04.48 | Tekkub | we have <Peanut Butter Jelly Time> on mine... one of the big horde raid guilds too |
| 03:04.56 | Tekkub | and <It burns when I PvP> |
| 03:04.57 | Wobwork | and you stand and taurendance? =) |
| 03:05.16 | starlon | We have <QQ> |
| 03:05.33 | CIA-7 | 03nogudnik * r53612 10Skillet/UI/ (MainFrame.lua MainFrame.xml Sorting.lua): |
| 03:05.33 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 03:05.33 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.33 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.47 | Tekkub | you know what OO makes me think of... the mexican chick on Heroes this season |
| 03:05.52 | Tekkub | *QQ |
| 03:05.57 | aestil | lol al'ar just despawned on us in P2 at 40% |
| 03:06.08 | aestil | Tekkub: i hate that mexican chick |
| 03:06.11 | aestil | stupiest ability ever |
| 03:06.13 | Tekkub | I do too |
| 03:06.14 | aestil | stupid story |
| 03:06.17 | aestil | stupid stupid stupid |
| 03:06.22 | aestil | who gave that idea a green light? |
| 03:06.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: I've never really been a fan of ayn rand. |
| 03:06.27 | Tekkub | which is why I want to tell her to QQ... and that's her power! |
| 03:06.45 | Wobwork | what is her power? |
| 03:06.49 | Wobwork | I only saw the first episode |
| 03:07.01 | Tekkub | whoever planned for Sylar to steal her power, but make it a whole season of him trying to instead of that boring one power per ep shit |
| 03:07.08 | Tekkub | but, well, this is just as boring |
| 03:07.17 | Tekkub | Syler is so meh... |
| 03:07.27 | aestil | syler is fine, when he was strong |
| 03:07.32 | aestil | but now? it'd be bette |
| 03:07.32 | Tekkub | Wob: she cries blood, and it kills everyone around her |
| 03:07.39 | Wobwork | ... charming |
| 03:07.45 | Tekkub | and her brother's the only one that can control it |
| 03:07.50 | aestil | and they are always sweating |
| 03:08.00 | Wobwork | so when he's around it doesn't kill people when she cries |
| 03:08.09 | Wobwork | yeah, I noticed that sweat... |
| 03:08.34 | Tekkub | no when he's around she's calm... and if she does freak out he can take he hand and suck the blood into him or some shit that stops it |
| 03:08.53 | Wobwork | but she's codependant otherwise? =P |
| 03:09.14 | Tekkub | and his eyes go black like the other people's... so I think he's just immune and can absorb it |
| 03:09.23 | Tekkub | oh she's a total flake |
| 03:09.39 | Tekkub | he goes to take a piss and she starts freaking out over everything |
| 03:09.53 | Tekkub | it's all really stupid |
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| 03:10.40 | Wobwork | But once they get to AMERICA it'll all be fine |
| 03:10.52 | Tekkub | of course, cause everything's better there |
| 03:11.00 | Wobwork | cause "everything's free in ame-ri-ca..." |
| 03:11.10 | Wobwork | Fabled land |
| 03:11.12 | Wobwork | etc etc |
| 03:11.15 | kenlyric | someone was just trying to argue with me that anecdotal evidence is the best kind of evidence. I was making all these rational arguments and then realized too late I was talking to an idiot. Now I feel dumb. |
| 03:11.28 | Tekkub | speaking of... http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2582-Zero-Punctuation-MOH-Airborne |
| 03:11.30 | Wobwork | brought you down to his level, eh? |
| 03:11.36 | Wobwork | woohoo new ZP |
| 03:11.44 | kenlyric | shit, on soundless laptop too. |
| 03:11.50 | kenlyric | but I know he's going to hate this one :) |
| 03:11.56 | Wobwork | I <3 ZP |
| 03:12.06 | kenlyric | even people who like that game are like WTF |
| 03:12.36 | kenlyric | something about how a game's multiplayer shouldn't suck ass if its single player does too. |
| 03:12.44 | kenlyric | but, I haven't played it myself. |
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| 03:13.55 | Tekkub | LE FUCK! |
| 03:14.01 | Wobwork | I love his script |
| 03:16.44 | Wobwork | ahaha |
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| 03:25.51 | Kemayo | Darn # and hashes. |
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| 03:31.46 | kenlyric | http://nist.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5 |
| 03:31.54 | kenlyric | bah |
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| 03:32.34 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
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| 03:41.25 | JoshBorke | nn all |
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| 04:15.57 | abyx | anyone ever done reliquary of souls? |
| 04:16.40 | durcyn | abyx: yeah, what's up |
| 04:17.11 | abyx | how do you do the room of aoe trash just before the event? |
| 04:17.30 | abyx | were trying atm but we don't have time to drink before the event starts |
| 04:17.36 | durcyn | just tank and aoe.. run in to the right wall, then to the corner, then to the left side of the ramp |
| 04:17.55 | durcyn | make sure tanks hold the blue and purple ones, and that dps kills the red quickly |
| 04:18.14 | abyx | yeah we make it that far but mages are totally oom as we start the event |
| 04:19.00 | Jagobah | As long as they have enough mana to deal with phase 1 it's fine |
| 04:19.09 | Jagobah | you get it all back in phase 2 |
| 04:19.44 | Jagobah | worst comes to worst, evocate off the bat |
| 04:19.51 | Jagobah | you won't need it in phase2 or 3 |
| 04:20.08 | durcyn | you should be out of combat for a wee bit before engaging |
| 04:20.15 | durcyn | and if they go oom on the trash they're dumb |
| 04:20.36 | Jagobah | warlocks should be doing their share of aoe |
| 04:20.45 | Kerafyrm | hear hear |
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| 04:21.02 | CIA-7 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 04:21.02 | CIA-7 | -Fixed growth options so the bars appear above the anchor if up is selected (instead of overlapping it) |
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| 04:21.53 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r658 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Importing tekilevel and tekIsStacked |
| 04:24.34 | Moozh | !char US Kel'Thuzad Ranou |
| 04:24.37 | ThraeBot | Moozh: Ranou, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (35/26/0). 12004 HP; 9585 Armour; 1631 AP; 248.200 Melee DPS; 34.36% melee crit; 77 melee hit; 10 +spell dmg/heal; 9.08% dodge; 5.00% block; 184 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1599 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw7z96 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rh8e5 ][ Updated: Wed Oct 31 20:28:37 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:25.53 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r659 10/trunk/tekiRate: Removing tekiRate, it is dead and gone. |
| 04:34.41 | aestil | we bring 4 AoE to most raids. |
| 04:34.47 | aestil | will any future events cause us problems? |
| 04:35.13 | aestil | we are almost done with KT |
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| 04:42.54 | Ellipsis | aestil: needs more Ellipsis imo |
| 04:46.03 | Dezzi | !char US Stormscale Marthastewrt |
| 04:46.06 | ThraeBot | Dezzi: Marthastewrt, Level 70 Undead Priest (14/0/47). 8211 HP; 7920 Mana; 143 mana regen; 21 mp5; 56 spell crit; 121 spell hit; 870 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1103); 388 shadow dmg (1258); 4.90% dodge; 14 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1254 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2aja8o ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cveev ][ Updated: Wed Oct 31 20:50:07 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:47.05 | Dezzi | neat |
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| 05:02.40 | aestil | agreed. |
| 05:05.10 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 05:06.33 | Megalon | as a matter of principle i have to disagree! |
| 05:07.02 | CIA-7 | 03scorpio0920 * r53617 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Auchindoun/ShadowLabyrinth/Blackheart.lua: |
| 05:07.02 | CIA-7 | Threat-1.0: |
| 05:07.02 | CIA-7 | - Update zhTW translation. (Thanks DeepVoice) |
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| 05:13.49 | Ellipsis | hmm... |
| 05:13.54 | Antiar1 | Tricky treats may be the best raid item ever |
| 05:14.14 | Antiar1 | Useful for Supremus, and wonderful for pissing off your raid members when combined with /lie + pile of dead trash |
| 05:14.19 | Orionshock | morning all |
| 05:14.36 | Ellipsis | so, that progress text at the top of your screen during the CoT events, how I make it move somewhere less annoying? |
| 05:15.06 | aestil | Ellipsis: darkspear the chruch |
| 05:15.16 | Orionshock | grab any good BG mod - it'll have a mover frame that will let you do that |
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| 05:22.03 | starlon | Antiar1: Yeah, our kiter's using them on Vashj. |
| 05:22.22 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: anything simpler? I don't PvP and would rather not use an entire PvP-oriented addon for it |
| 05:22.33 | Orionshock | hehe |
| 05:22.39 | Ellipsis | just the frame name would be a good start |
| 05:22.51 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.00 | Ellipsis | I don't think it accepts mouse input |
| 05:23.07 | Wobwork | Focus btw |
| 05:23.09 | Ellipsis | that and it's hidden under other stuff atm which is why I want to move it :P |
| 05:23.29 | Wobwork | well |
| 05:23.37 | Wobwork | you could get iriel's devtools |
| 05:23.42 | Wobwork | and get the stackframe info |
| 05:23.45 | Wobwork | or WMC |
| 05:24.15 | Ellipsis | ...I could... |
| 05:24.22 | Wobwork | WheresMyCow would do the job |
| 05:24.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ellipsis: simpleminimap may be able to move it |
| 05:25.16 | Fisker- | I saw you mr. Wobwork |
| 05:25.18 | Fisker- | i watched you die |
| 05:25.34 | Fisker- | saw you die and so forth |
| 05:25.53 | Fisker- | certain satisfaction as well |
| 05:26.04 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSan1: it doesn't in my experience |
| 05:26.12 | Ellipsis | it moves the PvP capture bar thingy |
| 05:26.17 | NightHawkTheSan1 | :\ i was just guessing |
| 05:26.26 | Ellipsis | the objective frame isn't anchored to the minimap, it's in the top center of your screen :P |
| 05:26.38 | NightHawkTheSan1 | YOU'RE in the center of my screen |
| 05:28.04 | Ellipsis | I...am? |
| 05:29.51 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and by "screen" i mean telephoto lense. |
| 05:29.53 | NightHawkTheSan1 | lens |
| 05:30.24 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: iirc it's called "WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame" |
| 05:30.35 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSan1: particularly impressive considering the room I'm in has no windows |
| 05:30.36 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53618 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.toc: |
| 05:30.36 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 05:30.36 | CIA-7 | - Removing useless metadata |
| 05:30.49 | Ellipsis | ty Orionshock, will play around with that :) |
| 05:30.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ellipsis: you can do amazing things with mirrors and fiberoptics these days |
| 05:31.07 | Ellipsis | I know |
| 05:31.10 | Ellipsis | er, I mean...so I hear |
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| 05:45.11 | Orionshock | i think i have it |
| 05:45.52 | Kerafyrm | have what? |
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| 05:46.29 | Orionshock | pair of functions that will effectively export a profile then put it back in |
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| 05:52.42 | Orionshock | wonder if CK ever intends on fixing the profile issues with RockDB |
| 05:53.04 | Ellipsis | no, I'm sure he is planning to leave those in forever |
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| 06:04.27 | Kerafyrm | quiet night |
| 06:06.13 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 06:06.28 | Neebler | a little too quiet |
| 06:07.01 | Kerafyrm | easy turbo :P |
| 06:08.06 | Antiar1 | ahah |
| 06:08.18 | Antiar1 | WWS: Position in queue: 251. Estimate time: 13 min 37" |
| 06:08.42 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 06:11.01 | Orionshock | if mind ~= nil then GetCookie(); else mind = {}; return end |
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| 06:11.48 | shesaws | hehe |
| 06:12.28 | Orionshock | i hate aceDB |
| 06:12.30 | Orionshock | .... |
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| 06:15.30 | Orionshock | tableStub = setmetatable( nil, {_index = function() FuckYou() } ) |
| 06:18.50 | shesaws | the metatables stuff seems useful, but what's with all the red tape around it? |
| 06:19.00 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53619 10MrPlow/PlowEngine.lua: MrPlow - Started consolidation function |
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| 06:19.21 | shesaws | setmetatable(nil,{_index=function() umm_hello() } |
| 06:20.09 | shesaws | why not |
| 06:20.21 | shesaws | table:_index = function() end |
| 06:21.12 | Kerafyrm | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1785191 |
| 06:21.17 | Kerafyrm | sorry, but funny as hell |
| 06:24.16 | Orionshock | Kerafyrm: in many bad ways |
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| 06:38.06 | Orionshock | fish boss in ZG, anyone think he's 2 manable with a pally and warrior? |
| 06:39.08 | Kerafyrm | possibly |
| 06:39.11 | Kerafyrm | we 4 man'd it |
| 06:39.59 | Orionshock | i can see 4man, but pallys do surprisingly enough do have a finite ammount of mana. |
| 06:40.24 | Orionshock | a warrior can dps but not before he dies when the pally runs out |
| 06:40.38 | `Zypher | 2 man ony, Warlock Pally |
| 06:40.58 | Orionshock | vid or it didn't happen |
| 06:41.07 | `Zypher | there is one |
| 06:41.14 | `Zypher | i just don't have it off the top of my head |
| 06:41.16 | Kerafyrm | lol @ phase 2 of 2 man ony |
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| 06:58.44 | theoddone33 | VW tank? |
| 06:58.45 | theoddone33 | heh |
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| 07:03.47 | theoddone33 | half the 2-man ony videos on youtube are "private server" |
| 07:05.09 | theoddone33 | one was warlock druid and they were doing fine except the warlock kept pulling off the VW so they died in phase 1 |
| 07:07.50 | Zhinjio | lua> inDay = "1"; print ( inDay * 10 ) |
| 07:07.50 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 10 |
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| 07:15.32 | shesaws | lua> local foo = 1; print foo++ |
| 07:15.33 | cladbot | shesaws: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "local foo = 1; print foo++"]:1: '=' expected near 'foo' |
| 07:15.49 | shesaws | -.- |
| 07:17.52 | Xinhuan | there is no ++ or -- operators in lua ;p |
| 07:19.42 | a-stray-cat | i miss ++ and -- :( |
| 07:22.27 | Orionshock | lua> inDay = "1"; print ( inDay + 5 ) |
| 07:22.28 | cladbot | Orionshock: 6 |
| 07:22.47 | Orionshock | so it will automagic concatonate |
| 07:22.56 | Tekkub | concat is .. |
| 07:23.15 | Orionshock | wrong word... |
| 07:23.17 | Tekkub | cast |
| 07:23.31 | Orionshock | it |
| 07:23.38 | Tekkub | it'll try to tonumber() on math ops and tostring() on concat |
| 07:23.39 | Orionshock | it'll string to number convert |
| 07:23.48 | Tekkub | that's called a cast :P |
| 07:24.25 | Orionshock | pb? |
| 07:24.27 | Orionshock | :P |
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| 07:47.13 | miica | somebody told me blizz add spell damage buff like cos and shadow priest buff like this "shadowbolt damage*1,1(cos)*1,1(priest)" |
| 07:47.37 | miica | but any idea where i could look order? |
| 07:47.43 | miica | what buff will be 1st |
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| 07:48.04 | nevcairiel | if its all multiplied, does it matter which is first? |
| 07:48.04 | shesaws_ | don't |
| 07:50.05 | miica | but then 60% buffs adds 75% O,o |
| 07:50.38 | Zhinjio | I want to set a ... nm. I'm being dumb. |
| 07:50.39 | shesaws_ | omg |
| 07:50.50 | nevcairiel | all multiplied buffs probably add to the base dmg |
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| 07:51.43 | shesaws_ | multiplied by *magic* |
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| 07:58.26 | backbone87 | hi |
| 07:59.13 | Zhinjio | ok, I have a list of "blank" buttons in a scrollframe. |
| 07:59.22 | backbone87 | someone knows what select(n, ...) returns, when n > select("#", ...)? |
| 07:59.29 | Zhinjio | I want to provide a texture for an item that is "selected" by a mouseclick |
| 08:01.39 | Zhinjio | any suggestions on which one to use? |
| 08:01.43 | shesaws_ | just curious, backbone? |
| 08:02.03 | Nargiddley | backbone87, nil |
| 08:02.19 | Shirik | backbone87, nil |
| 08:02.20 | backbone87 | Nargiddley: thx |
| 08:02.22 | Shirik | damn it |
| 08:02.25 | Shirik | I'm going to sleep |
| 08:02.29 | nevcairiel | lua> print(select(2, unpack({"a"}))) |
| 08:02.29 | cladbot | nevcairiel: |
| 08:02.35 | nevcairiel | there, nothing |
| 08:02.35 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:02.39 | Shirik | ??? |
| 08:02.42 | backbone87 | Shirik: thx ;) |
| 08:02.56 | Shirik | lua> print(tostring(select(2,unpack{"a"}))) |
| 08:02.56 | cladbot | Shirik: [string "print(tostring(select(2,unpack{"a"})))"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected) |
| 08:03.01 | Shirik | ?! |
| 08:03.02 | Shirik | uh |
| 08:03.04 | shesaws_ | zhinjio, you want to texture the item you click? |
| 08:03.08 | Shirik | tostring(nil) should return "nil" |
| 08:03.10 | Zhinjio | yes, its a button. |
| 08:03.15 | Zhinjio | so I can give it whatever. |
| 08:03.16 | nevcairiel | its not returning anything |
| 08:03.21 | Shirik | and print() should have an implied tostring( |
| 08:03.32 | Zhinjio | some sort of nice highlight to that edges or something to make it distinctive. |
| 08:03.37 | Shirik | I think clad|sleep did something funky with his bot :P |
| 08:03.43 | Shirik | too tired to mess with it though |
| 08:03.43 | Shirik | night |
| 08:03.46 | nevcairiel | lua> a = select(2, unpack({"a"})); print(a) |
| 08:03.46 | cladbot | nevcairiel: nil |
| 08:03.52 | nevcairiel | if you assign it, it works |
| 08:03.57 | Shirik | odd |
| 08:04.00 | backbone87 | ^^ |
| 08:04.14 | Zhinjio | for example, when you're "resting" in town, your name and portrait sort of glows. If I could find that as a static (not pulsing) texture, that'd be great, I think |
| 08:04.29 | nevcairiel | so, select does not return anything, not even nil, for the record ;) |
| 08:04.46 | Shirik | oh |
| 08:04.52 | Shirik | yes that would explain it |
| 08:05.15 | backbone87 | hmmmm |
| 08:05.18 | Shirik | nevcairiel wins |
| 08:05.28 | Shirik | therefore..... |
| 08:05.35 | shesaws_ | I don't think this situation is undefined in lua |
| 08:05.51 | shesaws_ | function always returns, if null |
| 08:05.54 | Nargiddley | lua> print(select('#',select(2, 'a'))) |
| 08:05.54 | cladbot | Nargiddley: 0 |
| 08:05.56 | backbone87 | lua> print(select(2, unpack({"a"})) == "b") |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-7 | 03lilsparky * r53620 10LilSparkysWorkshop/ (LilSparkysWorkshop.toc lilsparkysworkshop.lua): |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-7 | LilSparkysWorkshop: |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-7 | - fixed informant prices for vendor items sold as stacks |
| 08:05.56 | CIA-7 | - added tooltip breakdown of reagent costs for price sanity checks |
| 08:05.56 | cladbot | backbone87: false |
| 08:05.57 | Nargiddley | there :P |
| 08:06.02 | Shirik | lua> return select('#', nil, nil) == select('#', nil, select(5, 1, 2)) |
| 08:06.02 | cladbot | Shirik: false |
| 08:06.06 | Shirik | and there's the answer |
| 08:06.18 | Shirik | shesaws_: there is no such thing as null in Lua, aside from 0 |
| 08:06.26 | Shirik | and it is true, a function can return nothing |
| 08:06.31 | Shirik | which is not the same as returning nil |
| 08:07.09 | shesaws_ | hm, technically, y |
| 08:07.11 | Shirik | lua> print(select('#', nil, nil), select('#', nil, select(5, 1, 2))) |
| 08:07.11 | cladbot | Shirik: 2, 1 |
| 08:07.14 | Shirik | note the difference |
| 08:07.17 | backbone87 | but we can compare nothing with something else and get allways false? |
| 08:07.24 | Shirik | you can't compare "nothing" |
| 08:07.26 | shesaws_ | I would think that would be defined in language spec |
| 08:07.30 | Shirik | it is |
| 08:07.37 | Shirik | a function can return as many values as it wants to, including 0 |
| 08:07.47 | Nargiddley | a nil value is still a value |
| 08:07.48 | Shirik | All I have to do is return 0 from C side and I have indicated that there are no return values |
| 08:08.08 | Shirik | nil is a value, not the absence of a value. However, if you try to assign nothing to something, it will end up becoming nil |
| 08:08.31 | backbone87 | lua> print(select(2, {"a"}) == select(2, {"b"})) |
| 08:08.32 | cladbot | backbone87: true |
| 08:08.35 | shesaws_ | well said |
| 08:08.35 | backbone87 | haha! |
| 08:08.38 | Shirik | The only case where this is not true is in tables |
| 08:08.48 | shesaws_ | might depend on implementation |
| 08:09.06 | Shirik | negative, this is clearly spelled out in the lua documentation |
| 08:09.16 | Shirik | granted, it's in the C side of Lua, but it's there nonetheless |
| 08:09.31 | Shirik | Whenever a C function returns to Lua, it must indicate how many values are being returned |
| 08:09.45 | Shirik | this is then expanded or truncated to fit the assignment or fields required |
| 08:10.29 | Shirik | the reason it has to do this is because of the way the Lua stack is manipulated. If a function /didn't/ say how many values it was returning, the stack would go corrupt almost instantly |
| 08:10.43 | backbone87 | i have somthing like this: f = function (n, ...) if select(n, ...) == <something> then f(n + 1, ...) end end |
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| 08:11.08 | backbone87 | so this will work :) |
| 08:11.11 | Zhinjio | what is the path to Blizz default textures? For example UI-CastingBar-Flash.png? |
| 08:11.19 | Shirik | did you mean 'n' or really n? |
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| 08:11.40 | backbone87 | a number passed along |
| 08:11.42 | Shirik | oh I see what you're doing |
| 08:11.47 | backbone87 | normally 1 |
| 08:11.52 | Zhinjio | is it just CastingBar\UI-CastingBar-Flash |
| 08:11.53 | Shirik | trying to iterate over the entire tuple |
| 08:11.55 | Zhinjio | ? |
| 08:11.57 | Xinhuan | why would you need to use a recursive function to loop thru "..." ? |
| 08:12.02 | Shirik | but don't do that |
| 08:12.06 | Shirik | you can just do that in a for loop |
| 08:12.11 | Xinhuan | just use a for-loop |
| 08:12.39 | backbone87 | i only need to iterate if it is the same like <something> |
| 08:12.48 | Shirik | so use a while loop :) |
| 08:12.54 | Xinhuan | for i = 1, select(#, ...) do local a = select(i, ...) end |
| 08:13.13 | Xinhuan | you can break from the loop easily |
| 08:13.20 | Xinhuan | depending on the value of a |
| 08:13.26 | Shirik | you can; I think a while loop is cleaner, but to each is own |
| 08:14.00 | Shirik | anyway, night guys |
| 08:14.13 | backbone87 | its a type of recursive table iteration so a single while wont work |
| 08:14.22 | backbone87 | n8 |
| 08:14.23 | Shirik|zZz | For the record |
| 08:14.32 | Shirik|zZz | Any recursive algorithm can be brought down to a simple loop |
| 08:14.38 | Shirik|zZz | it's a matter of how complex it is is the question |
| 08:14.58 | Shirik|zZz | /vanish |
| 08:15.05 | Xinhuan | all recursion can be converted to for-loops |
| 08:15.12 | backbone87 | i know |
| 08:15.18 | backbone87 | but it looks like shit |
| 08:15.24 | backbone87 | in some cases |
| 08:15.38 | backbone87 | and vice versa |
| 08:15.39 | Nargiddley | what are you trying to do ? |
| 08:15.41 | shesaws_ | does it work the other way too? |
| 08:16.06 | shesaws_ | can all for-loops be made into recursive? |
| 08:16.10 | miica | what result you get? http://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&q=1%2C15+*+1%2C1+*+1%2C1+*+1%2C15+*+1%2C1 |
| 08:16.15 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:16.18 | Shirik|zZz | shesaws_: probably, but I think it would be stupid |
| 08:16.35 | nevcairiel | miica: 1,7602475 |
| 08:16.56 | shesaws_ | k, I don't understand the question _nor_ the answer |
| 08:17.01 | backbone87 | Nargiddley: "advanced" event dispatching, where you can pre check event arguments, avoiding alot of "if"s in unit frame addons |
| 08:17.09 | shesaws_ | then |
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| 08:18.22 | Xinhuan | calling the select() function is probably 10 times slower than doing a few if-then-else checks |
| 08:18.37 | Nargiddley | where does the table come into it ? |
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| 08:20.28 | backbone87 | http://www.pastey.net/76205 |
| 08:21.00 | shesaws_ | ok, I see how you can for-loop a recurrence |
| 08:21.06 | shesaws_ | but the other way? |
| 08:22.05 | backbone87 | ?? |
| 08:22.30 | shesaws_ | you can turn a reccurent function into a series of for-loops |
| 08:22.54 | shesaws_ | it's not really duable and mundane etc, but I would know how to do that |
| 08:23.19 | shesaws_ | what I don't know is how you take a for-loop and make it into a recurrent function |
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| 08:24.59 | backbone87 | that is easy ^^ function f(start, end) if start > end then return end ......... return f(start+1, end) end |
| 08:25.20 | Nargiddley | lua> local a = '' local function loop(i, n) a = a..i if i < n then loop(i+1, n) end end loop(1, 6) print(a) |
| 08:25.21 | cladbot | Nargiddley: 123456 |
| 08:25.29 | Nargiddley | ugly but there you go :P |
| 08:26.14 | cncfanatics | w0000t, new ati drivers are out for xorg 7.3 |
| 08:26.15 | cncfanatics | about time |
| 08:26.25 | Jagobah | xorg! |
| 08:26.33 | Jagobah | cncfanatics ( '-') |
| 08:26.46 | shesaws_ | I guess that must be it |
| 08:26.50 | cncfanatics | what about it Jagobah ? |
| 08:27.08 | Jagobah | I want to give you a hug |
| 08:27.09 | backbone87 | but recursive functions are not so good for large number of loops because a function call is more expensive, than an for statement |
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| 08:39.11 | Antiar1 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=YEqZkglTVYE |
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| 08:47.08 | Antiar1 | Dear lord, Supremus makes a boring video. |
| 08:47.23 | Antiar1 | Here's 20 seconds of phase 1. |
| 08:47.28 | Antiar1 | Here's 60 seconds of phase 2. |
| 08:47.33 | Antiar1 | REPEAT FOR A BILLION YEARS. |
| 08:47.34 | Antiar1 | epix. |
| 08:49.37 | dreamss | the curse video for it its funny |
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| 08:53.25 | CIA-7 | 03ominous * r53621 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 08:57.28 | shesaws_ | has anyone tried finding out how mining/herba nodes work? I mean basic things like respawn rate |
| 08:58.30 | neenee | They respawn randomly over an area |
| 09:00.21 | shesaws_ | sure? |
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| 09:00.38 | shesaws_ | on a timer? |
| 09:01.38 | Tigerdyr | Random timer |
| 09:02.01 | shesaws_ | some nodes appear to be exclusively-linked |
| 09:02.23 | shesaws_ | i.e. either node at 30,50 or at 33,44 |
| 09:02.26 | Tigerdyr | I think that's observer error :) |
| 09:02.37 | shesaws_ | not both at once |
| 09:03.41 | shesaws_ | so, with enough time and no miners, all nodes would be minable, randomly switching between regular/rich adamantite node etc? |
| 09:05.49 | shesaws_ | I also don't like the notion of 'random timer' |
| 09:06.54 | shesaws_ | all the events are made up using timers |
| 09:07.27 | Zhinjio | I think its fairly impossible to observe the real behavior. However, I have a theory |
| 09:07.36 | shesaws_ | there is a ticker, like once every second or so, that does |
| 09:07.54 | Zhinjio | there's a *regular* timer, say, 2 minutes or 1 minute. When it hits, it checks for nodes that are mined, and randomly picks one mined node to respawn. |
| 09:08.13 | shesaws_ | foreach (zone::nodes as node) if random(100) > 90 then node::spawn() end |
| 09:08.19 | Zhinjio | thats my theory and I'm stickin' to it. |
| 09:08.28 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 09:08.40 | Kerafyrm | there is probly a massively complex algorithm that handles what when and where every node spawns.. similar in some ways to how SOE did SWG's resource spawns. |
| 09:09.17 | shesaws_ | a massively complex alghoritm is always exploitable in some ways ^^ |
| 09:09.42 | Zhinjio | well, that and something that is observed to be very complex is probably very simple in the guts. |
| 09:10.09 | Kerafyrm | true to a point, the only way you'd find the hole is to see the real thing, which unless you plan on getting a job with Blizz, its unlikely to happen, unless someone gets disgrunted.. lol |
| 09:10.09 | Zhinjio | its easy to make something "seem" complex. |
| 09:10.09 | Zhinjio | *nod* |
| 09:10.10 | shesaws_ | idd, that's what I'm trying to find out |
| 09:10.14 | Zhinjio | I have only one inside contact. |
| 09:10.20 | Zhinjio | I haven't asked him for anythign in a long time. |
| 09:10.29 | shesaws_ | I applied to be a gm |
| 09:10.30 | dreamss | fn'shesaws_> so, with enough time and no miners, all nodes would be minable, randomly switching between regular/rich adamantite node etc? |
| 09:10.31 | dreamss | no |
| 09:10.57 | Kerafyrm | I live 20 min from Blizz HQ in Irvine, I know were a large contingent of folks go for lunch.. But its not something I wanna exploit, so why bother :P |
| 09:10.59 | dreamss | i had control of winterspring mining run (all nodes) for 2 weeks straight when i farmed for my AR |
| 09:11.34 | dreamss | one of the veins stayed on 1 place, and it was bugged so you cant track it |
| 09:11.39 | Zhinjio | somehow, I'm thinking exploiting that contact for the mining node respawn algorithm would be a tremendous waste |
| 09:11.43 | Zhinjio | *smile* |
| 09:12.35 | shesaws_ | my question is really simple tbh |
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| 09:13.20 | dreamss | i been a miner for 2-3 years |
| 09:13.25 | shesaws_ | are there any edge conditions under which the node-respawn alghorithm is _forced_ to spawn nodes |
| 09:13.34 | dreamss | no |
| 09:13.38 | shesaws_ | or prevented, for that matter |
| 09:13.56 | dreamss | there is no variables |
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| 09:14.57 | cncfanatics | new ati drivers, lets see if the speed increases |
| 09:14.58 | dreamss | blizz said they will take a look at how mining spawns |
| 09:15.11 | dreamss | new ati drivers wont let wow start on my 9800 :< |
| 09:15.18 | Zhinjio | um, I remember seeing conversation in here regarding an GameTooltip:SetOwner error recently |
| 09:15.21 | Zhinjio | what addon broke that? |
| 09:15.42 | cncfanatics | hmmm, seems they're buggy |
| 09:15.44 | cncfanatics | holy crap |
| 09:15.54 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna have to downgrade both xorg & the drivers if they are, the pain |
| 09:16.07 | Zhinjio | anyone remember? |
| 09:16.42 | cncfanatics | buggy |
| 09:17.20 | cncfanatics | fucking shit |
| 09:17.23 | cncfanatics | now how to fix this |
| 09:18.04 | dreamss | ? |
| 09:18.10 | dreamss | whats ur issue cnc? |
| 09:18.15 | cncfanatics | no models ingame |
| 09:18.29 | cncfanatics | think I fixed it |
| 09:18.30 | dreamss | wow says cant initize 3d device to my 9800 with newest drivers |
| 09:18.33 | dreamss | had to revent back |
| 09:18.41 | cncfanatics | linux or win ? |
| 09:18.44 | cncfanatics | or mac , |
| 09:19.23 | dreamss | win |
| 09:19.30 | cncfanatics | fixed for me |
| 09:19.35 | cncfanatics | disabling smooth lighting fixed it |
| 09:19.50 | dreamss | heh |
| 09:19.58 | dreamss | my buddy gave me a 6800 ultra |
| 09:20.04 | dreamss | not to worried about it |
| 09:20.55 | cncfanatics | I'm just glad just disabling an option fixed it for me |
| 09:21.04 | cncfanatics | would have been a pain to downgrade half my OS after upgrading it |
| 09:21.19 | Zhinjio | cncfanatics, I thought I recall you being in that discussion... |
| 09:21.23 | Zhinjio | do you remember that at all? |
| 09:21.37 | Zhinjio | someone complained about GameTooltip:SetOwner errors |
| 09:21.49 | Zhinjio | and it was some recent change to an ace addon or lib |
| 09:22.48 | dreamss | u be surprised how windows resto works |
| 09:22.51 | dreamss | how well |
| 09:22.59 | cncfanatics | ehm, could be in a lot of stuff |
| 09:23.22 | cncfanatics | I don't remember any such discussion Zhinjio |
| 09:23.27 | Zhinjio | ok. sorry |
| 09:23.31 | Zhinjio | don't mean to pester. |
| 09:23.40 | cncfanatics | you don't :p |
| 09:28.29 | shesaws_ | Zhinjio if, as your theory goes, there is a pool of mined nodes, one is chosen to respawn |
| 09:28.56 | shesaws_ | that would make it fairly easy to create an edge case when you can force a node to be spawned |
| 09:29.28 | Zhinjio | well yeah... mine them ALL! |
| 09:29.31 | Zhinjio | *grin* |
| 09:29.39 | shesaws_ | y |
| 09:30.05 | Zhinjio | not only that, but mine them all in under a minute (or whatever the timer is) |
| 09:30.08 | tinyboom | lol, tried to send mail to myself instead of an alt by mistake and bulkmail went nuts and looped infinite:p |
| 09:30.16 | shesaws_ | if you did it in area where there's very few nodes generally, you could farm mining |
| 09:30.36 | shesaws_ | you can't send mail to yourself |
| 09:33.45 | backbone87 | lua> local function f(...) print(table.concat({ "something", ...})) end f(" to", " test") |
| 09:33.45 | cladbot | backbone87: something to test |
| 09:33.51 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53622 10EnhancedStackSplit/ (. EnhancedStackSplit.lua EnhancedStackSplit.toc): EnhancedStackSplit: initial commit |
| 09:34.47 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53623 10Grid/Grid.toc: |
| 09:34.47 | CIA-7 | Grid: |
| 09:34.47 | CIA-7 | - remove used ProximityLib in toc |
| 09:35.43 | backbone87 | lua> local function f(...) local table = { [0] = "something", ...} print(table[0], table[1], table[2], table[3]) end f(" to", " test") |
| 09:35.43 | cladbot | backbone87: something, to, test, nil |
| 09:37.12 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53624 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.lua: |
| 09:37.12 | CIA-7 | ClosetGnome_Zone: |
| 09:37.12 | CIA-7 | - remove ClosetGnome:Update() lines |
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| 09:42.01 | whizter | hi. what was the name of the addon that automatically sells grey junk to vendors? |
| 09:44.02 | cladhaire | AutoProfit |
| 09:44.12 | cladhaire | err, well that's not automatic.. but it gives you a button |
| 09:44.22 | cladhaire | if there's an automatic one i want it :P |
| 09:44.31 | whizter | oh ok |
| 09:44.40 | nevcairiel | minimalist has a option to auto-sell grey junk |
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| 09:45.33 | cladhaire | so.. why is minimalist called minimalist, when it tries to do everything? :P |
| 09:46.36 | Jagobah | hehe |
| 09:48.49 | Diao | lol |
| 09:49.16 | Jagobah | It was suppose to be the addon that did the job of several other addons |
| 09:51.43 | shesaws_ | like every other addon in game |
| 09:52.52 | nevcairiel | i should rip the two functions i use from minimalist out and put them in my own simple addon |
| 09:57.55 | whizter | and what was the name of the addon that automatically buys reagents (for portals etc.)? |
| 09:58.50 | shesaws_ | FreeRefills? |
| 09:58.57 | whizter | yes, thx |
| 09:59.48 | whizter | < started playing again after half a year pause and now I'm trying to get back all my good old addons :) |
| 10:00.08 | shesaws_ | try mine ^^ |
| 10:02.07 | whizter | I can't find freerefills anywhere. is it outdated? |
| 10:02.42 | shesaws_ | http://files.wowace.com/FreeRefills/ |
| 10:02.42 | shesaws_ | ? |
| 10:03.05 | whizter | oh ok. it wasn't linked on the addons page.. |
| 10:07.47 | shesaws_ | btw, anyone knows any addons similiar to PerfectRaid? |
| 10:07.59 | dreamss | grid? |
| 10:08.00 | shesaws_ | ie. no icons, plain text with colors |
| 10:08.33 | dreamss | yeah grid |
| 10:08.37 | dreamss | owns face |
| 10:08.59 | shesaws_ | I meant like bag addons, or unit frames |
| 10:10.45 | cladhaire | well perfectraid isn't a bag addon |
| 10:10.53 | cladhaire | and you'd have to be more specific about what you mean by similar |
| 10:10.58 | shesaws_ | y, it's a party/raid frames addon |
| 10:10.58 | cladhaire | what are you looking for in particular? |
| 10:11.04 | cladhaire | yes, i know.. i wrote it. |
| 10:11.15 | shesaws_ | unit frames |
| 10:11.21 | shesaws_ | in the same style |
| 10:11.27 | cladhaire | you can use them as party frames |
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| 10:11.33 | shesaws_ | btw, gz, great ui design |
| 10:11.54 | cladhaire | perfectraid has been usable in party for a while now. |
| 10:12.10 | shesaws_ | y, I've tried using it in party too |
| 10:12.20 | cladhaire | the word is "yes", please. |
| 10:12.32 | cladhaire | you're going to need to be more specific if you want someone to give you a recommendation on another addon to use |
| 10:12.33 | nevcairiel | but thats 2 extra chars! |
| 10:12.41 | cladhaire | just saying "i want unit frames" doesn't tell us very much |
| 10:12.47 | shesaws_ | :) |
| 10:12.49 | cladhaire | what does party mode for praid not do for you, that you're looking for. |
| 10:12.53 | shesaws_ | what I mean is no graphics |
| 10:12.54 | shesaws_ | no icons |
| 10:13.05 | cladhaire | what does party mode for praid not do for you, that you're looking for. |
| 10:13.05 | Tigerdyr | textual WoW? |
| 10:13.08 | cladhaire | i ask again. |
| 10:13.15 | shesaws_ | y, in a way |
| 10:13.36 | cladhaire | please answer the question so we can make an appropriate reccomendation |
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| 10:13.59 | shesaws_ | it's difficult to explain |
| 10:14.02 | shesaws_ | only easy to spot |
| 10:14.09 | nevcairiel | he probably wants player/target too |
| 10:14.32 | shesaws_ | I mean minimalist in the way PerfectRaid is minimalist, with best possible info/noise ratio, no icons, no decorations |
| 10:14.43 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 10:14.51 | cladhaire | shesaws_: I've now asked you a question twice. |
| 10:14.57 | cladhaire | then asked you to answer it another time. |
| 10:15.17 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: if that's the case, then pitbull or bunchofbars should be sufficient when customized, imo |
| 10:15.29 | cladhaire | we shouldn't have to drag information out of you, when we're the ones helping you |
| 10:16.29 | cncfanatics | welcome back smooth shading :) |
| 10:16.32 | cncfanatics | woot :p |
| 10:16.33 | shesaws_ | I find it difficult to quantify, will try to rethink question |
| 10:16.56 | cladhaire | shesaws_: I asked you a very specific question.. What can't you do in perfectraid party mode that you would like to be able to do. |
| 10:17.01 | cladhaire | Shouldn't be very difficult to answer, at all |
| 10:17.12 | shesaws_ | I can't use it to manage my inventory |
| 10:18.09 | shesaws_ | and it doesn't nicely display my combat log |
| 10:18.14 | cladhaire | wait.. what? |
| 10:18.20 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:18.20 | Xinhuan | now now, don't be mean |
| 10:18.26 | Xinhuan | gonna have to ask both of you to settle down |
| 10:18.28 | Zhinjio | how did we get from PerfectRaid to managing your inventory and combat logs? |
| 10:18.32 | cladhaire | why should a raid/unit frame have anything to do with your inventory or combat log? |
| 10:18.38 | shesaws_ | it shouldn't |
| 10:18.40 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: No one is being mean, I'm trying DESPERATELY to help |
| 10:18.52 | Xinhuan | the reply was mean |
| 10:18.59 | shesaws_ | what I'm saying is just that I'm looking for _other_ addons, like PerfectRaid |
| 10:19.07 | cladhaire | which reply.. cladhaire: wait.. what? |
| 10:19.14 | shesaws_ | -.- |
| 10:19.18 | Zhinjio | so minimalist in the same way that PerfectRaid is? |
| 10:19.23 | cladhaire | shesaws_: Okay, that makes a bit more sense |
| 10:19.23 | Xinhuan | there is plenty of addons similar to perfectraid |
| 10:19.27 | Lukian | shesaws_, so unitframe addons, or specifically raidframe addons? |
| 10:19.30 | Xinhuan | however, |
| 10:19.44 | Xinhuan | you have to more accurately describe the features you want to see or not want to see |
| 10:19.48 | shesaws_ | minimalist in the same way as PerfectRaid user interface is minimalist |
| 10:19.48 | cladhaire | you're gonna be looking for inventory addons, or combat log addons rather than unit frames |
| 10:19.51 | Xinhuan | for anyone to recommend you a specific one |
| 10:20.13 | shesaws_ | hehe, I'm not shopping for my first addons, believe me |
| 10:20.17 | Xinhuan | cladhaire: i was referring to shesaws_'s reply |
| 10:20.39 | cladhaire | hrm, okay. |
| 10:20.45 | Silviu- | cladhaire can i set Pr in a single coloumn grp not 2 ? |
| 10:20.59 | cladhaire | Silviu-: yes, change the settings in the raid frames tab |
| 10:21.07 | cladhaire | doesn't sanity do text based inventory? |
| 10:21.11 | cladhaire | or am i smoking crack |
| 10:21.12 | Silviu- | Oh cool then i`m installing it again :) |
| 10:21.13 | Lukian | shesaws_, oh you are looking for lightweight addons |
| 10:21.27 | shesaws_ | y, Sanity does something in that vein |
| 10:21.40 | Xinhuan | ya but the problem is he isn't really quantifying what he means by "minimalist" or "lightweight" |
| 10:21.42 | Antiar1 | Oy, WWS is backed up tonight |
| 10:21.44 | Lukian | shesaws_, I'd suggest using a memory / cpu profiling addon to determine how "light"/minimalistic the addon is |
| 10:21.49 | Silviu- | cladhaire, btw i tryed to add a updated Dongle but then Pr raid errored on me that it can`t find blabla :( |
| 10:21.55 | Lukian | shesaws_, if that's what you means? |
| 10:22.09 | Xinhuan | those terms are relatively subjective |
| 10:22.19 | cladhaire | Silviu-: why did you need to change Dongle? |
| 10:22.23 | shesaws_ | what I mean is purely UI minimalism |
| 10:22.40 | Silviu- | cladhaire i did not need but wanted to try :) |
| 10:22.42 | Xinhuan | shesaws_: "purely UI minimalism" isn't very descriptive -.- |
| 10:22.50 | cladhaire | Silviu-: you'd need this one: http://dongle.googlecode.com/svn/tags/Dongle-1.0-r1129/Dongle.lua |
| 10:22.57 | Xinhuan | what is "minimalist" to you isn't what is minimalist to someone else |
| 10:22.59 | cladhaire | Silviu-: you probabl[y dropped in the 1.1, which perfectraid doesn't use. |
| 10:23.06 | CIA-7 | 03archarodim * r53625 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_opt.lua Readme.txt lisez-moi.txt): |
| 10:23.06 | CIA-7 | Decursive: |
| 10:23.06 | CIA-7 | - Since GetBindingAction() is no longer working for MACRO in 2.3, I've changed the way Decursive tests its macro key assignment. |
| 10:23.06 | CIA-7 | Since the opening of the 2.3 test realms I reported this bug several times on the EU forums with no result... |
| 10:23.11 | Silviu- | I tryed .. w8 |
| 10:23.33 | shesaws_ | well, can we at least conclude that PerfectRaid has minimalist user interface? |
| 10:23.43 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:23.45 | cladhaire | not really, no |
| 10:23.52 | cladhaire | its subjective |
| 10:23.55 | Xinhuan | one could argue that Quartz is not minimalist because it has 15 modules |
| 10:23.57 | cladhaire | its not gaudy, i think we can agree to that |
| 10:23.58 | Silviu- | cladhaire i tryed "$Revision: 252 $" :) |
| 10:24.07 | Xinhuan | but one could argue that quartz is minimalist because you can only enable the modules you want |
| 10:24.09 | Xinhuan | see? |
| 10:24.15 | cladhaire | Silviu-: well, you can't look at the revision at the top of the file, because thats the donglestub revision |
| 10:24.19 | shesaws_ | that's why I refined it to "UI minimalist" |
| 10:24.24 | shesaws_ | don't care about architecture atm |
| 10:24.30 | Xinhuan | but what does "UI minimalist" mean? |
| 10:24.41 | Xinhuan | does it mean "take up very little screen space" or "take up very little memory" |
| 10:24.47 | Xinhuan | or "have only 5 features and not 500" |
| 10:24.54 | Xinhuan | you're being vague |
| 10:25.01 | cladhaire | Silviu-: this is the most recent Dongle-1.0: http://dongle.googlecode.com/svn/tags/Dongle-1.0-r1129/Dongle.lua |
| 10:25.04 | Silviu- | cladhaire hmm .. well i took Dongle from SSPVP and replaced the Pr one, but this is not a problem anyway i can use with the default one :) |
| 10:25.16 | cladhaire | Silviu-: SSPVP uses Dongle-1.1 |
| 10:25.19 | cladhaire | so it wouldn't work :P |
| 10:25.22 | cladhaire | as you've found out |
| 10:25.25 | shesaws_ | ok, let's assume UI addons generally present filtered data |
| 10:25.26 | Silviu- | Yep :D |
| 10:25.35 | shesaws_ | that data is supposed to convey information |
| 10:25.52 | Xinhuan | so you want lots of data displayed but in as little space as possible? |
| 10:26.03 | Silviu- | cladhaire so i can use http://dongle.googlecode.com/svn/tags/Dongle-1.0-r1129/Dongle.lua in pr without any problems ? |
| 10:26.04 | shesaws_ | minimalism is showing as little information to convey as much knowledge as possible |
| 10:26.09 | Xinhuan | or you want to only see one specific data and nothing of everything else? |
| 10:26.19 | cladhaire | Silviu-: should be able to, yep. |
| 10:26.30 | Silviu- | cladhaire cool nice :) |
| 10:27.11 | Zhinjio | hrm. I have a question. throwing together a pastey... |
| 10:27.30 | clad|away | off to class, errands.. bbl. |
| 10:27.45 | CIA-7 | 03daviesh * r53626 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 10:27.45 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:27.45 | CIA-7 | - Added Brewfest to the loot browser. |
| 10:27.56 | Industrial | <+cladhaire> if there's an automatic one i want it :P |
| 10:27.58 | Industrial | tek's got one |
| 10:28.05 | clad|away | omg k |
| 10:28.11 | shesaws_ | I'll give an example, say you are debuffed with Curse of Something, there are many possible ways of indicating that on your unit frame |
| 10:28.15 | Industrial | its like 5 lines of code it rocks |
| 10:28.24 | shesaws_ | you can add an icon below it |
| 10:28.51 | shesaws_ | but you can also display a violet "CoS" next to it |
| 10:29.00 | Amorphous | what's the problem when one gets?: FuBarPlugin-2.0 requires Dewdrop-2.0. AddOn: FuBar_TimerFu File: AceOO-2.0.lua Line: 627 |
| 10:29.12 | Industrial | Amorphous: read it |
| 10:29.17 | Industrial | FuBarPlugin-2.0 requires Dewdrop-2.0. |
| 10:29.22 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:29.28 | Amorphous | Industrial, it is under Libs/ |
| 10:29.40 | Industrial | Amorphous: so th addon needs Dewdeop-2.0 |
| 10:29.59 | Xinhuan | shesaws_: and....? |
| 10:30.00 | Industrial | Amorphous: if it's not there the probably something was set wrong. if you look in the .toc file of thaddont here's an author |
| 10:30.03 | Zhinjio | http://pastey.net/76208 |
| 10:30.07 | Industrial | Amorphous: contact him to fix it |
| 10:30.11 | Zhinjio | question is in the pastey |
| 10:30.25 | shesaws_ | PerfectRaid displays this kind of information as colored text |
| 10:30.31 | Industrial | scuse my typos :P |
| 10:30.42 | shesaws_ | I like that |
| 10:30.47 | shesaws_ | I want more of that in my UI |
| 10:30.52 | Amorphous | Industrial, Dewdrop-2.0 exists under Libs/ in the addon. |
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| 10:31.17 | Industrial | Amorphous: is there an embeds.xml ? |
| 10:31.21 | Industrial | Amorphous: is it listed there? |
| 10:31.23 | Xinhuan | shesaws_: as far as i'm aware, the only unitframe or raidframe addon that does that is PerfectRaid |
| 10:31.35 | kebinusan | I liked PR alot |
| 10:31.45 | clad|away | kebinusan: it sucks, no one should like it. |
| 10:31.57 | shesaws_ | Xinhuan: y, same here, and I've tested many |
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| 10:32.09 | Amorphous | Industrial, no :) i'll try inserting it. |
| 10:32.10 | Xinhuan | because, icons that display the specific curse |
| 10:32.11 | kebinusan | pft |
| 10:32.13 | Xinhuan | is far mroe useful |
| 10:32.15 | Industrial | Amorphous: kay :P |
| 10:32.28 | Xinhuan | than a coloured text |
| 10:32.28 | Industrial | Amorphous: if it works please also contact the aurthor so it can be fixed for everyone =D |
| 10:32.32 | clad|away | Xinhuan: why's an icon more useful than text that uniquely identifies the curse? |
| 10:32.40 | clad|away | out of curiosity? |
| 10:32.54 | Xinhuan | because there are 100 different curses and CoS is just one of them |
| 10:33.01 | shesaws_ | ok, specific functionality, I would like the damage in combat log to be colored (or otherwise simply marked) to let me know what kind of damage is it (physical, frost, shadow etc.) |
| 10:33.03 | Xinhuan | or do you have a unique string for every curse? |
| 10:33.06 | clad|away | yes, and those you are interested in you can display |
| 10:33.15 | clad|away | Xinhuan: the user can add whatever they want, based on what they are interested in |
| 10:33.16 | kebinusan | I just try and get as much out of grid as I can these days so I dont have to duplicate raid frames |
| 10:33.21 | Xinhuan | ah i see |
| 10:33.32 | clad|away | you go into a new boss fight |
| 10:33.38 | clad|away | he has a massive debuff "ZOMG ASSRAPE" |
| 10:33.46 | Industrial | rofl |
| 10:33.50 | clad|away | you can set praid to display whatever text you want, in whatever color you want when someone has "Zomg Assrape" |
| 10:33.53 | shesaws_ | this ofc depends on the role |
| 10:33.54 | Zhinjio | Would y'all mind taking a look at http://pastey.net/76208 and see if you can tell me what I'm doing wrong? |
| 10:34.05 | Zhinjio | if you have time. |
| 10:34.10 | clad|away | ah well, either way gotta hop into the shower |
| 10:34.18 | kebinusan | Id love to see a bigwigs module to add 'massive debuff "ZOMG ASSRAPE"' to grid and praid and the like so healers didnt have to configure it for each fight |
| 10:34.21 | shesaws_ | as a druid healer I don't care much what specific curse is on the tank, I just need to de-curse him quickly |
| 10:34.50 | clad|away | Zhinjio: the first parameter to CreateTexture is the layer, not the name, afaik |
| 10:35.04 | Zhinjio | assuming, of course, that you spell Addons right *smile* |
| 10:35.05 | Zhinjio | looking. |
| 10:35.15 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/76209-29c2:76208-2mph |
| 10:35.17 | shesaws_ | if there is more than 1 type of curse on raid (which is unlikely?), I can do with 3 letters to distinguish |
| 10:35.18 | Industrial | Zhinjio: ^ |
| 10:35.44 | clad|away | nvm, im' wrong |
| 10:35.44 | clad|away | lol |
| 10:35.45 | clad|away | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.49 | clad|away | ok |
| 10:35.49 | clad|away | shower |
| 10:35.51 | clad|away | damnit. |
| 10:36.04 | Xinhuan | that doesn't make my point invalid though, PerfectRaid is the only addon i know of that does this |
| 10:36.13 | shesaws_ | y, it's very good |
| 10:36.21 | Xinhuan | i dont know |
| 10:36.38 | shesaws_ | I guess I'll have to write it and show y'all :P |
| 10:37.00 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53627 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Announce/Announce.lua: |
| 10:37.00 | CIA-7 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 10:37.00 | CIA-7 | - Bug (forgot to change the variable name) fix in Announce.lua |
| 10:37.15 | Industrial | Xinhuan: does it matter what curse it is? what if it was a purple square block instead of text? |
| 10:37.28 | Xinhuan | ya, some curses i won't bother to decurse |
| 10:37.36 | Xinhuan | in which PR's case, he won't show it |
| 10:37.44 | Xinhuan | which achieves the same effect |
| 10:37.55 | shesaws_ | if it was a purple square block, I wouldn't know what curse is it |
| 10:38.07 | Industrial | thats a limitation to your personal needs then :P |
| 10:38.31 | Xinhuan | an icon often with a purple border |
| 10:38.36 | Xinhuan | provides both pieces of info |
| 10:39.05 | Zhinjio | Industrial: ... hmm. |
| 10:39.12 | Industrial | Zhinjio: hmm. |
| 10:39.13 | shesaws_ | for me personally, icons are distractions |
| 10:39.16 | shesaws_ | don't like them |
| 10:39.25 | Zhinjio | Going to play with what you're suggesting for a bit. But I'm not sure I understand what the principal difference is |
| 10:39.40 | Industrial | Zhinjio: easier |
| 10:39.52 | Zhinjio | you're just assigning the button's name to a string variable..... well, whatever. I'll try a few things out. |
| 10:39.54 | Industrial | button:GetName() is just a string anyway - so you can make it a local if you use it more then once |
| 10:40.08 | Industrial | returns a string anyway* |
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| 10:40.24 | Zhinjio | sure. *shrug* |
| 10:40.30 | Zhinjio | shouldn't affect the function at all |
| 10:40.34 | Industrial | no |
| 10:41.13 | shesaws_ | I think what makes PerfectRaid special is that it has no UI chrome |
| 10:41.23 | shesaws_ | each pixel is informative |
| 10:41.47 | shesaws_ | yet it manages to not be disruptive |
| 10:43.06 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel * r53628 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 10:43.06 | CIA-7 | Threat-1.0: |
| 10:43.06 | CIA-7 | - add deDE translation to Illidan module, and try to improve phase2 threat tracking |
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| 10:44.27 | Nerox | Does bartender3 allow a fresh bar when switching stances on a warrior? Kinda like the default Blizzard Action bars. |
| 10:44.33 | Zhinjio | ok, I think I have a better way to accomplish my goal, but I need to be able to destroy an instantiation of a variable once I'm done with it. Is there a "free" sort of method for temporary variables once i'm done with them? |
| 10:44.47 | Zhinjio | or is that handled automatically for me by some automateed means? |
| 10:44.53 | Tigerdyr | Zhinjio: you could set it to nil? |
| 10:45.05 | Zhinjio | ... true. |
| 10:45.07 | shesaws_ | garbage collection |
| 10:45.15 | Tigerdyr | yep |
| 10:45.25 | nevcairiel | depends on the type of variable |
| 10:45.28 | nevcairiel | if its just a local var |
| 10:45.33 | nevcairiel | just let it be |
| 10:45.42 | Zhinjio | it'll fall out once I leave its scope, yes? |
| 10:45.48 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 10:45.50 | Zhinjio | ll |
| 10:45.52 | Zhinjio | er, kk |
| 10:46.09 | shesaws_ | but "you" don't leave scope |
| 10:46.26 | shesaws_ | you can have an element running in that scope |
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| 10:49.23 | Nerox | Anyone know if I get a new bar when switching stances as a warrior? I'd like to have a different order for skills while in defensive stance than while i'm in battle. If not it's cool I'll just deal with it but I was wondering if their was a way to get it to give me a fresh bar like the default blizzard action bars. |
| 10:49.31 | Lukian | PT3 doesn't have a set for lockboxes? |
| 10:49.41 | Lukian | Or lockpicking materials etc? |
| 10:50.17 | Lukian | Nerox, might help if you said which barmod you are using.. |
| 10:51.11 | Nerox | I said it earlier ;) |
| 10:51.15 | Nerox | Bartender 3. |
| 10:51.44 | Diao | yes it does |
| 10:51.49 | Diao | it should be built in |
| 10:51.57 | Diao | are you leveling a new warrior and just got your stance? |
| 10:52.10 | Nerox | Yeah, first time I've made a war with this barmod. |
| 10:52.21 | Diao | okay |
| 10:52.24 | Diao | whenever you get a new stance |
| 10:52.25 | Diao | you need to relog |
| 10:52.32 | Nerox | Ah okay, figured you were gonna say that :P |
| 10:52.36 | Nerox | Thanks Diao :) |
| 10:52.42 | Diao | np |
| 10:53.54 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, around? |
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| 10:58.48 | Antiar1 | Yeah |
| 10:58.54 | Antiar1 | Finishing my stage6 upload before bed :) |
| 10:59.11 | Antiar1 | Filefront murderized my video |
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| 11:11.08 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r53629 10/branches/ammoDurability/: Created folder remotely |
| 11:11.57 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53630 10ammoDurability/: ammoDurability: create Ace3 branch folder. |
| 11:12.41 | tlund | is it FuBar_GarbageFu that adds a trashcan to the topright corner of the venderwindow to sell all gray items? |
| 11:12.58 | Xinhuan | under what circumstances does omen show a * |
| 11:13.01 | Xinhuan | next to a person's name |
| 11:13.33 | tlund | Xinhuan: when the data comes from KTLMthreat |
| 11:13.40 | Xinhuan | we have a tank that responds to threat-1.0 version checks |
| 11:13.44 | Xinhuan | but he has a * next to his name |
| 11:13.47 | tlund | oh |
| 11:13.49 | Xinhuan | what does that mean? |
| 11:13.50 | Antiar1 | When they're reporting threat from a non-Threat client |
| 11:13.51 | Antiar1 | Hm |
| 11:13.57 | Antiar1 | All the time, or just occassionally? |
| 11:14.00 | Xinhuan | all the time |
| 11:14.05 | Xinhuan | even updated today |
| 11:14.19 | Antiar1 | Sounds like his version reports aren't coming through properly. |
| 11:14.31 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53631 10ammoDurability/ (Durability.lua TinyGratuity.lua ammoDurability.toc): |
| 11:14.31 | CIA-7 | ammoDurability: Initial Import |
| 11:14.31 | CIA-7 | - ammoDurability is a working title, need proper name later on. |
| 11:14.31 | CIA-7 | - Adds durability % to the paperdoll frame |
| 11:14.31 | CIA-7 | - Adds durability average percent below the armored man |
| 11:14.31 | CIA-7 | - Shoves the armored man in your face center of the UI until I fix proper moving/locking of it. |
| 11:14.35 | CIA-7 | - Adds a durability overview tooltip to the armored man. |
| 11:14.47 | Xinhuan | is that possible though? |
| 11:14.51 | Xinhuan | since version check shows |
| 11:14.58 | Xinhuan | he is using threatlib latest version |
| 11:15.07 | Xinhuan | 53617 |
| 11:15.17 | Antiar1 | Not sure what's up there. I'll check it out though. |
| 11:15.23 | Xinhuan | what if he uses both omen and ktm? |
| 11:15.28 | Xinhuan | will that happen? |
| 11:15.32 | Antiar1 | It shouldn't, no |
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| 11:16.30 | Orionshock | WOW... in ZG, cleared all the way to hakkar in 1hr and 20mins |
| 11:16.39 | Orionshock | with 6 mins to spare on the instance reset |
| 11:16.42 | [Ammo] | aoe through all the trash? |
| 11:16.50 | Orionshock | more or less |
| 11:16.51 | Nerox | Nice :P |
| 11:17.15 | Orionshock | 17ppl |
| 11:17.38 | Orionshock | didn't even bother with the poison on hakkar |
| 11:18.02 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53632 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: default to autolure |
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| 11:18.34 | Nerox | Alright, I asked before but it's still not working. Anyone know how to get a new bar when switching stances with bartender3? Diao told me to re-log and it should work but it didn't I still have the exact same bar just with stuff darkened because I can't use it. |
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| 11:19.38 | Orionshock | it's called paging |
| 11:20.19 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:20.31 | Orionshock | it has a list of each stance and what bar to page to |
| 11:21.40 | Nerox | So Just set battle to bar 1 and def to bar 2 |
| 11:22.21 | Orionshock | ya |
| 11:22.25 | Orionshock | or what ever you want |
| 11:22.34 | Orionshock | i have bear form set to bar 10, cat to 9 |
| 11:22.39 | Orionshock | tree to 8 |
| 11:23.13 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53633 10AutoBar/ (8 files): |
| 11:23.13 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 11:23.13 | CIA-7 | -- 2.02.03.20 beta () |
| 11:23.13 | CIA-7 | -- Learning new spells now updates buttons. |
| 11:23.14 | CIA-7 | -- Adding or deleting a new Button updates it in the bar immediately. |
| 11:23.14 | CIA-7 | -- In Move the Buttons mode you can now drop items onto a button with a custom category & it will be added to the custom category. |
| 11:23.17 | CIA-7 | -- Only items supported atm, not spells or macros. |
| 11:24.02 | Nerox | Awesome that's what I needed. Do you know any good itemrack type mods that'll switch my 2h to sword/shield when I switch stances? I tried itemrack but can't seem to get it to work unless I click the mini-map button and pick def then switch stances normally. |
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| 11:24.29 | vhaarr | ClosetGnome + ClosetGnome_Switcher |
| 11:24.38 | Orionshock | i like IR2 |
| 11:24.47 | vhaarr | I like /ban |
| 11:24.53 | Orionshock | i'd personaly use a macro or just put it on the AB |
| 11:25.21 | Orionshock | vhaarr: you wouldn't /ban me for having a difference of opinion? |
| 11:25.48 | vhaarr | you really want to test me? |
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| 11:25.48 | Orionshock | i'd rather not |
| 11:25.48 | Toadkiller | do it! |
| 11:25.48 | vhaarr | haha |
| 11:26.08 | Nefarion | based on those three last lines i'd have to agree--do it.. but whatnow? |
| 11:26.10 | Toadkiller | Hey so is closetgnome better than itemrack or just different & waht about interface? |
| 11:26.14 | Orionshock | if i had a violent difference of opinion then i'd understand you. |
| 11:26.29 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: actually, someone just reviewed it, let me give you a link |
| 11:26.30 | Orionshock | :D |
| 11:26.37 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: http://altitis.blogspot.com/2007/10/addons-in-review-closetgnome-and.html |
| 11:26.38 | Toadkiller | sweet! |
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| 11:30.27 | Toadkiller | Mmm, you know I may just ditch itemrack after I fix the Trinket2 button in AutoBar |
| 11:31.04 | Toadkiller | Itemrack's sloooow update cycle has scared me for a while now |
| 11:31.22 | vhaarr | well, CG isn't updated often either |
| 11:31.46 | Toadkiller | YEah but there is a comfort to anything on wowace: it CAN be updated |
| 11:31.51 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 11:32.42 | Nefarion | if it's not broken (or lacking) why fix it? |
| 11:33.02 | Orionshock | imho i don't like CG's interface... |
| 11:33.33 | Nefarion | yeah i tried it a little bit back and didn't like it much |
| 11:33.48 | Nefarion | but then i never gave it much of a shot. it lasted in the folder for all of 3 hours. |
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| 11:34.08 | Toadkiller | So judging from the review the main difference is no mouseover on the paperdollframe items to select new items? |
| 11:34.37 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: SwapMagic on the wowace svn |
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| 11:40.11 | Toadkiller | Oh killer! The combo would be even better than itemrack since I am not currently using any of its autoequip stuff. |
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| 11:41.28 | Lukian | ClosetGnome supports item selection now? XD |
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| 11:42.41 | Orionshock | is spyglass still fubared |
| 11:45.36 | Nefarion | oh shit that's broken? |
| 11:45.56 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53634 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ZulAman/Zuljin.lua: Threat-1.0: frFR Update |
| 11:46.48 | Lukian | Toadkiller, oh right |
| 11:46.55 | Lukian | Toadkiller, I use SwapMagic to compensate |
| 11:48.56 | Orionshock | Nefarion: is it your addon? |
| 11:49.02 | Nefarion | no |
| 11:49.12 | Nefarion | but i could use something like that, now that i saw it |
| 11:49.14 | Nefarion | lol |
| 11:50.07 | Nefarion | it may be a bright day for warlocks |
| 11:50.20 | Nefarion | look at the front page of our forums, US side. so many blue posts. more than ever. |
| 11:50.31 | Orionshock | lol |
| 11:50.36 | Nefarion | =) |
| 11:50.47 | the-golem | Orionshock: lol "fubared" .. in this place, that can mean two things :P |
| 11:50.55 | Orionshock | lol |
| 11:51.10 | Orionshock | i would think that theres a distinction between fubar'ed and FuBar'ed |
| 11:51.20 | the-golem | true |
| 11:51.28 | Nefarion | 'cept for the lazy people who don't like caps (*cough*) |
| 11:51.38 | the-golem | exactly what i was about to type |
| 11:51.56 | Orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9611.msg154663#msg154663 |
| 11:52.45 | Nefarion | probably running externals and seeing Rock's and fubar's other libs thrown into the mem display |
| 11:52.49 | the-golem | fb3? |
| 11:53.00 | Orionshock | ya |
| 11:53.08 | Orionshock | don't you see version nubers? |
| 11:53.50 | the-golem | been a while since i looked at my addon folders |
| 11:54.09 | Orionshock | won't be there iirc |
| 11:54.11 | Orionshock | it's in the toc |
| 11:55.50 | miica | any idea if there is any php class that count wow therycraft? :D |
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| 11:56.39 | Nefarion | fubar is now in version 3, since its migration to the Rock framework |
| 11:56.44 | the-golem | ah |
| 11:57.01 | Industrial | miica: what? :p |
| 11:57.23 | the-golem | "Fubar2" is just a re-aced version then |
| 11:57.36 | Nefarion | basically |
| 11:57.43 | Industrial | why cant you just say "It uses Ace2" |
| 11:57.46 | Industrial | :| |
| 11:58.05 | Nefarion | don't ask me why it's 're-aced', i still can't understand that |
| 11:58.12 | miica | Industrial: yeah php class that got funtcitions that count spell damage etc |
| 11:58.14 | Industrial | it doesnt matter |
| 11:58.33 | Industrial | miica: I doubt it |
| 11:59.17 | dreamss | if u have the algorim u could prolly edit tooltip php mod |
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| 12:00.03 | Industrial | make one? :p |
| 12:00.24 | Nefarion | ummmm |
| 12:00.29 | dreamss | item_stat |
| 12:00.31 | dreamss | s |
| 12:00.41 | Nefarion | somebody find the blue post in http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215451992&sid=1&pageNo=1 , i check the whole thing and didn't see blue text =X |
| 12:00.47 | miica | Industrial: i think i make somekind warlock class :D |
| 12:00.55 | Orionshock | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=9DB05648F19DE848406933BCE77E064A?topicId=2215451992&pageNo=5&sid=1#91 |
| 12:00.58 | Industrial | miica: well goodluck with that |
| 12:01.13 | Orionshock | top of the page to the left is a bliz icon |
| 12:01.14 | Gagorian | Nefarion: Why don't you just click the blizz button |
| 12:01.17 | Nefarion | thanks |
| 12:01.21 | Nefarion | umm what? |
| 12:01.22 | Orionshock | if you click on it it'll take you to the first blue post |
| 12:01.33 | miica | Industrial: thanks :D |
| 12:01.34 | Nefarion | .......hmm |
| 12:01.37 | Nefarion | thanks lol |
| 12:01.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 12:01.44 | Industrial | sh. |
| 12:01.54 | Nefarion | slap in the face " Bluing this thread so it's easy to find again" |
| 12:02.09 | miica | ha ah :D |
| 12:02.35 | miica | just no idea how i make those talents :/ |
| 12:02.53 | Orionshock | ok i'll give locks this one : * Kill Stealing - Make dots tick as soon as we cast them to avoid people kill-stealing our mobs |
| 12:03.24 | Nefarion | some of the suggestions will never make it. fucktards complain about our unending breathing; no way we can get a real spell past them. lol |
| 12:03.29 | Nefarion | like the self-banish |
| 12:04.22 | the-golem | ... |
| 12:04.32 | dreamss | miica |
| 12:04.32 | the-golem | warlocks arent super enuff? |
| 12:04.34 | dreamss | http://ninjalooters.info/index.php?name=item_stats |
| 12:04.37 | miica | i like banish athor peeps elementals :D |
| 12:04.49 | Orionshock | lol * Soulshards - the gimmick is over.. do we really, truly need these? |
| 12:04.59 | dreamss | sigh |
| 12:05.09 | dreamss | soulshard farming sucks in pvp servers |
| 12:05.12 | dreamss | sersiusly |
| 12:05.17 | Orionshock | suck it up |
| 12:05.20 | Orionshock | suck it up... |
| 12:05.23 | Nefarion | yes because we're the most over-represented class in arena right now...oh wait |
| 12:05.24 | the-golem | make soulshards stack |
| 12:05.28 | the-golem | problem solved |
| 12:05.43 | the-golem | stacks of 5 even would be good |
| 12:05.43 | Orionshock | 5 stack |
| 12:05.55 | dreamss | i was in sm for a week farming hh, sucked when i was out of shards |
| 12:06.09 | Orionshock | and i'll give locks this one too : * You have different skins for pretty much all our demons in the game already, can we please upgrade their look for the expansion? |
| 12:06.15 | Orionshock | but at the cost of 1k each time :P |
| 12:06.16 | Nefarion | i don't agree |
| 12:06.22 | Orionshock | 1 yr CD :P |
| 12:06.22 | Nefarion | IMO remove the soulshard necessity |
| 12:06.33 | dreamss | or mana cost |
| 12:06.35 | dreamss | gezzuz |
| 12:06.37 | Nefarion | *or* remove it on the majority of spells |
| 12:06.42 | dreamss | ios like 2k mana and soulshard |
| 12:06.51 | the-golem | you need it mostly for demons, and healthstones, yeah? |
| 12:06.54 | the-golem | what else? |
| 12:06.57 | Nefarion | especially shadowburn. why a SS requirement on that? |
| 12:07.00 | Orionshock | or 30% base mana |
| 12:07.04 | dreamss | any stone/summon/demon |
| 12:07.12 | the-golem | shadowburn is gay |
| 12:07.21 | Nefarion | . . . . . |
| 12:07.25 | dreamss | soulfire |
| 12:07.29 | Orionshock | & how bout the HELL NO: * Death Coil - (talent, 2pts) Reduce cooldown by 30 seconds for each point invested, most feasible with a decrease in range. I think it's reasonable that since a rogue can use CloS about every fight, and we don't stand a chance against warrs without it, we should be able to use DC every fight. |
| 12:07.35 | the-golem | its supposed to be like a warrior execute |
| 12:07.46 | Nefarion | yeah orion that's ridiculous |
| 12:07.46 | the-golem | 30 second cooldown? LMAO |
| 12:07.56 | Orionshock | how bout remove DC from the class |
| 12:07.57 | Nefarion | but IMO they need to nerf CloS at least slightly |
| 12:08.00 | Orionshock | and give it to druids |
| 12:08.06 | Nefarion | DC isn't that bad. it really isn't/ |
| 12:08.21 | Orionshock | really? |
| 12:08.22 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:08.35 | Nefarion | the problem with fears: they're annoying as fuck. no other CC is more annoying or embarassing. |
| 12:08.36 | Orionshock | DC .... Fear... Dot... fear .. dot .. fear .. ad infinum |
| 12:09.00 | Nefarion | first, DR. second, fear breaks easily at 70 and there's a fuckload of ways to actively break it. |
| 12:09.05 | Orionshock | in my experiance, it's worked 10/10 time more than it's failed |
| 12:09.13 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53635 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: update koKR local |
| 12:09.17 | Nefarion | at 70? |
| 12:09.23 | the-golem | so fear again |
| 12:09.24 | Nefarion | you're either playing low or plain lying |
| 12:09.25 | Orionshock | @ 70 -- in BG's |
| 12:09.28 | the-golem | its got no cooldown |
| 12:09.33 | Nefarion | the-golem, do you know what DR means? |
| 12:09.39 | Orionshock | Mid being pounded in the a** by 5 others |
| 12:09.52 | the-golem | oooh |
| 12:09.55 | miica | we need shards pets(succu buff always when you die), HS, SS, Soulshatter(if you ninja agro), Shadowburn (in arenas) |
| 12:10.01 | the-golem | since when did fear have diminishing returns/ |
| 12:10.07 | Nefarion | if you're being pounded by 5 at a time you've got more to worry about than a 'lock's fear |
| 12:10.18 | Nefarion | fear isn't the most realistic cast for the average 'lock |
| 12:10.22 | Nefarion | and it's broken easily |
| 12:10.25 | Orionshock | right but w/o the fear i can bark skin and heal in that time |
| 12:10.25 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 12:10.33 | Wobin_ | I just had candy corn for the first time |
| 12:10.38 | Nefarion | if you're beating on a 'lock fear isn't the first thing they cast, ever |
| 12:10.39 | Wobin_ | and... last time =P |
| 12:11.02 | the-golem | it is on my hunter ^^ |
| 12:11.02 | Nefarion | the-gol, are you serious? 'since when did fear have dr"? |
| 12:11.11 | Nefarion | are you bm? |
| 12:11.23 | the-golem | yeah, but only 39 |
| 12:11.28 | Orionshock | ya fear always had a DR... just not as bad untill recently |
| 12:11.33 | the-golem | no bestial wrath yet |
| 12:11.37 | Wobin_ | esp pvp |
| 12:11.41 | Nefarion | well that's amajr problem with balance nowadays. DONT COMPLAIN IF YOU ARENT 70 PVPING> |
| 12:11.42 | Wobin_ | well pve has no dr |
| 12:11.58 | Nefarion | the game isn't balanced around what a lvl 39 knows |
| 12:12.01 | Nefarion | sorry to say |
| 12:12.16 | Nefarion | pve never has. no reason for it. |
| 12:12.26 | Orionshock | and how bout another no: * Spell Haste - make it work on DoTs |
| 12:12.35 | the-golem | Nefarion: who the hell said i ONLY had a 39? |
| 12:12.49 | Nefarion | but you're comparing it against your 39 |
| 12:13.44 | Nefarion | i think dots are hard to judge on that point orion. people bitch that they can damage after the 'lock dies too mucn. |
| 12:13.54 | Orionshock | hey Industrial you need to school JaedxRapture on the forums about how to troll w/o sounding like a absolute and complete asshole in typing. |
| 12:14.09 | Nefarion | they don't see that as a result we get damage without burst (able to be healed through, no *fast* kill), and damage that can be dispelled |
| 12:14.53 | the-golem | Nefarion: i was saying, IN MY EXPERIENCE |
| 12:15.04 | the-golem | i never said it was balanced, or whatever |
| 12:15.10 | Nefarion | last line was directed at orion |
| 12:15.12 | Nefarion | =) |
| 12:15.34 | the-golem | "but you're comparing it against your 39" |
| 12:16.18 | Nefarion | then your experience was irrelevant. regardless that's done with; we're off the topic. |
| 12:16.21 | Orionshock | wait Nefarion |
| 12:16.39 | Orionshock | the term "Sucks to be you" comes to mind |
| 12:16.46 | Orionshock | play a hybrid class |
| 12:16.55 | Orionshock | you get boned at every spell |
| 12:17.08 | Nefarion | then i can respond likewise |
| 12:17.36 | Orionshock | i do play a hybrid class |
| 12:17.41 | Nefarion | i never said DoTs had a problem; they're fine right now. they don't need a buff or nerf. but i won't support the idea of neglecting or nerfing one class to fix the fuckups on another. |
| 12:17.42 | Orionshock | a feral druid |
| 12:17.43 | the-golem | Nefarion: no its not |
| 12:17.57 | the-golem | if you choose to disregard it, whatever |
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| 12:29.45 | CIA-7 | 03orionshock * r53636 10FuBar_ReportAFK/ReportAFK.lua: |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-7 | FuBar_ReportAFK: |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-7 | -Fix the report limit set once and for all GDI! |
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| 12:39.57 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53637 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/ (2 files): GridIndicatorSideIcons: added koKR translation (thanks Sayclub) |
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| 12:43.30 | Srosh | ~godwin |
| 12:43.32 | purl | Adolph Hitler has been mentioned, the plonkings may commence now. To plonk, /ignore foo all |
| 12:43.43 | Srosh | Lol. |
| 12:43.44 | Orionshock | the hell? |
| 12:43.53 | Srosh | ~godwin'slaw |
| 12:44.03 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53638 10GridIndicatorText3/ (GridIndicatorText3.toc GridIndicatorText3Local-koKR.lua): GridIndicatorText3: added koKR translation (thanks Sayclub) |
| 12:44.12 | Orionshock | ~jargon file |
| 12:44.12 | purl | Description of common hacker words and phrases. URL: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/ |
| 12:44.53 | dreamss | good old jargon, to bad noone bothers to read the description of hacking |
| 12:47.40 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53639 10GridStatusMTs/ (GridStatusMTs.toc GridStatusMTsLocal-koKR.lua): GridStatusMTs: added koKR translation (thanks Sayclub) |
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| 12:53.44 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53641 10GridStatusTargetName/ (GridStatusTargetName.toc GridStatusTargetNameLocal-koKR.lua): GridStatusTargetName: added koKR translation (thanks Sayclub) |
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| 12:57.51 | kenlyric | i like how the jargon file breaks in html |
| 13:01.48 | kenlyric | I wonder if they converted it with word or some shit. http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html |
| 13:01.55 | kenlyric | every quote is fucked |
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| 13:03.18 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 13:04.02 | sag_ich_nicht | someone care to report that GetBindingAction() isn't working for MACRO anymore in 2.3 on the US forums? EU forums are shit. |
| 13:04.27 | Shirik|zZz | define "isn't working" |
| 13:04.38 | sag_ich_nicht | as in: doesn't do shit |
| 13:04.55 | Shirik|zZz | o..k... |
| 13:05.18 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme look up the thread about it on the EU forums |
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| 13:10.12 | sag_ich_nicht | meh can't find it |
| 13:10.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't remember the details and i can't install the PTR client so yeah. i just remembered seeing it on the forums a few days ago and was reminded when i saw a complaint about it in the decursive changelog |
| 13:17.16 | kenlyric | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/contests/07-10-pumpkin/gallery.html#27 |
| 13:17.19 | kenlyric | i have to go with this one. |
| 13:17.26 | kenlyric | the detail is impressive. |
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| 13:26.23 | MoonWolf | ello Tekkub , steino |
| 13:26.34 | steino | ello |
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| 13:31.14 | acidtrip | heya |
| 13:31.18 | acidtrip | how can i use xart? |
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| 13:41.11 | baer_ | moin. |
| 13:41.19 | MoonWolf | yo |
| 13:41.22 | MoonWolf | acidtrip, never used it. |
| 13:41.40 | acidtrip | well thanks |
| 13:43.44 | MoonWolf | no problem |
| 13:44.58 | charon | afternoon |
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| 13:45.30 | charon | in the previous two kills it seemed omen/threat-1.0 does not reset at the end of leotheras' whirlwind, has anyone else observed this? |
| 13:45.55 | baer_ | charon: here. raided him by yesterday. |
| 13:47.12 | acidtrip | does anyone use xart? |
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| 13:48.22 | baer_ | acidtrip: me. |
| 13:48.55 | acidtrip | can u tell me how to import my own textures? |
| 13:49.06 | baer_ | unfortunately not. |
| 13:49.07 | acidtrip | or give a link with toturial |
| 13:49.19 | baer_ | i use the art supplied out-of-the-box |
| 13:49.29 | acidtrip | uh? |
| 13:49.36 | acidtrip | u eddited it? |
| 13:50.20 | charon | baer_: so i'm in for another debugging session *sigh* |
| 13:50.44 | baer_ | charon: good luck. guess you'll need it. :) |
| 13:51.18 | acidtrip | baer |
| 13:51.24 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r53643 10BigWigs/ (15 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:51.24 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 13:51.24 | CIA-7 | - zhCN Punctuation Completion. (Under CWDG Translated) |
| 13:51.24 | CIA-7 | - Add Flash.lua zhCN Locale |
| 13:51.29 | charon | the worst thing isn't that omen breaks, but that my usual argument in favour of omen (over KTM) fails :( |
| 13:51.54 | charon | so far it was always "get omen because KTM breaks on leotheras" |
| 13:52.34 | acidtrip | i need way to add my own textures ! |
| 13:52.39 | acidtrip | anyone helps? |
| 13:55.53 | baer_ | charon: we switched to omen a while back, because most raid members had a very bad version. |
| 13:55.58 | Lukian | charon, Omen is superior on any fight where you may be killing mobs slightly before a "boss" |
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| 13:57.49 | charon | Lukian: you're preaching to the converted |
| 13:58.45 | Lukian | hehe |
| 13:58.49 | charon | i am an absolute omen fanatic and even made a branch that has options to recolour pullouts |
| 13:59.06 | Lukian | oooo nice |
| 13:59.42 | charon | it just gets so much harder to convince the remaining ~5 KTM users in the raid to switch, now that it breaks on leotheras... and one of those 5 is the warlock tank |
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| 14:00.02 | Lukian | gkick imho :p |
| 14:00.32 | charon | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Omen/charon/Omen/ btw |
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| 14:01.51 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 14:02.00 | sag_ich_nicht | bug in quartz in the LOD behaviour |
| 14:02.27 | sag_ich_nicht | reproduction=login with quartz set to LOD and tradeskill merge enabled already in quartz and start making bandages. |
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| 14:04.38 | xyu` | good morning vietnam |
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| 14:34.43 | CIA-7 | 03Firik * r53645 10BunchOfBars/Core.lua: |
| 14:34.43 | CIA-7 | BunchOfBars: |
| 14:34.43 | CIA-7 | - fixed a bug where all modules were disabled by default |
| 14:34.55 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53646 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: Translators ftl. |
| 14:35.05 | Saroz | fail fail fail AND MORE fail |
| 14:35.15 | Mooz1 | orly |
| 14:56.06 | RogueShadow | ~fail translators |
| 14:56.07 | purl | translators: Fail. |
| 14:58.56 | [Ammo] | translators suck |
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| 14:59.26 | [Ammo] | in fact, anyone using the non-english wow will be the first against the wall when the next revolution comes |
| 14:59.39 | charon | what does NTSA mean? it's all over a "i got scammed" thread and i can't find a fitting expansion |
| 15:00.07 | [Ammo] | ~NTSA |
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| 15:00.12 | [Ammo] | purl might know |
| 15:00.45 | Looter | Hello |
| 15:01.33 | Xinhuan | ~google NTSA |
| 15:01.40 | Xinhuan | ~wiki NTSA |
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| 15:02.15 | evl | ~fail non-english speaking people |
| 15:02.15 | purl | non-english speaking people: Fail. |
| 15:02.21 | evl | Thank you purl. |
| 15:02.29 | Busko | hey anyone know how to make the text in EQcompare bigger ? |
| 15:02.34 | MoonWolf | evl, well that wasn't very nice of you. |
| 15:02.36 | Looter | FUCK OFF PEOPLE |
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| 15:02.40 | Busko | same size as the item you compare ? |
| 15:02.51 | MoonWolf | i think he was offended. |
| 15:03.11 | evl | Localizing something to german is counterproductive |
| 15:03.17 | charon | complaining in english about a complaint about non-english speaking people is a contradiction isn't it |
| 15:03.24 | evl | Everything is already dubbed, WoW could help people understand english better! :) |
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| 15:03.49 | MoonWolf | evl, not where i live |
| 15:03.53 | MoonWolf | we get us some good subs. |
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| 15:05.12 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 15:05.33 | Mooz1 | behehe |
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| 15:06.14 | what-K | hi all i have a question, i look for an addon that says me when my battle shout or command shout iss fading off |
| 15:06.30 | Shirik | I have an incredibly simplistic one (10 line) that would work |
| 15:06.42 | Shirik | I wrote it in about 5 minutes for someone who was too lazy to look at his buff bar |
| 15:06.46 | Shirik | it simply tells you when it fades |
| 15:07.13 | what-K | can u give it to me ? |
| 15:07.41 | charon | most SCT-like addons can also show buff fades, though that might get spammy |
| 15:08.39 | Shirik | yeah I can send it to you if you want |
| 15:08.42 | Shirik | have an email address? |
| 15:08.48 | what-K | make per dcc |
| 15:08.58 | Shirik | not sure if I can dcc send from here but I'll try |
| 15:09.09 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53647 10MrPlow/PlowEngine.lua: |
| 15:09.09 | CIA-7 | MrPlow: More fixes to the moving algorithm, still not fully fixed. Will |
| 15:09.09 | CIA-7 | trace later. |
| 15:09.34 | what-K | or up it at www.rapidshare.com |
| 15:10.48 | Shirik | did you get that request? |
| 15:10.54 | what-K | no :( |
| 15:10.57 | Shirik | blah |
| 15:11.18 | what-K | up it to www.rapidshare.com |
| 15:12.32 | Shirik | http://www.guardianhq.com/personal/skullshot/shoutout.zip |
| 15:12.46 | Shirik | wait |
| 15:13.25 | Shirik | http://www.guardianhq.com/personal/skullshot/ShoutOut.zip |
| 15:13.28 | Shirik | that one |
| 15:14.19 | Shirik | I don't want to hear "it's not configurable enough" or something :P I told you it's only 10 lines and I wrote it in 5 minutes :) |
| 15:14.26 | Shirik | but it works |
| 15:14.39 | what-K | np :D |
| 15:14.53 | what-K | it only must tell me when shot iss fading off |
| 15:15.00 | what-K | works it with the german client ? |
| 15:15.06 | Shirik | oh that it does not :/ |
| 15:15.09 | Shirik | um |
| 15:15.13 | Shirik | I can tell you what to change |
| 15:15.15 | what-K | damn :( |
| 15:15.20 | Shirik | are all your shouts the same? |
| 15:15.29 | Shirik | Like, in enUS we have "Commanding Shout" "Battle Shout" etc |
| 15:15.32 | Shirik | they all end with "Shout" |
| 15:15.45 | what-K | battle iss |
| 15:16.03 | what-K | in german iss Befehlsruf and Schlachtruf |
| 15:16.21 | Shirik | hrm |
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| 15:16.34 | Shirik | do you have any other buffs that end with "ruf"? :) |
| 15:16.35 | Wobin_ | ending in ruf mebbe? |
| 15:16.44 | what-K | yes |
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| 15:16.57 | Shirik | well ok, how about this |
| 15:16.59 | Shirik | replace: if spell:match(" Shout") then |
| 15:17.07 | Wobin_ | ~x en de shout |
| 15:17.09 | Obelixprime | assessment is a great mod |
| 15:17.23 | Shirik | with if spell:match("Commanding Shout") or spell:match("Battle Shout") then |
| 15:17.24 | Wobin_ | Thanks purl, that was really helpful =P |
| 15:17.38 | Shirik | replace commanding shout and battle shout with the exact spelling of the buff |
| 15:17.46 | Shirik | you can put more buffs in there if you want |
| 15:18.22 | Obelixprime | filtering with buffalo? |
| 15:18.31 | Shirik | yours will actually work better than the US one if you do that... right now it also tells you if demoralizing shout is fading on you... which you really shouldn't care about :P |
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| 15:18.46 | what-K | if spell:match("Befehlsruf") or spell:match("Schlachtruf") then |
| 15:18.50 | Shirik | yes |
| 15:19.10 | what-K | ok i try it |
| 15:19.14 | Shirik | And if you want to make it in german, there's a line two lines below |
| 15:19.17 | Shirik | Change "faded" to whatever |
| 15:19.33 | Shirik | Otherwise it will just say "Befehlsruf Faded" |
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| 15:22.23 | Obelixprime | i have a question about assessment if anyone would care to help me otu |
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| 15:23.12 | Tuks | anyone familiar with DKPMon and Bidder |
| 15:24.35 | what-K | Shirik|AFK |
| 15:24.36 | what-K | Date: 2007-11-01 16:21:03 |
| 15:24.38 | what-K | ID: 10 |
| 15:24.40 | what-K | Error occured in: Global |
| 15:24.42 | what-K | Count: 1 |
| 15:24.44 | what-K | Message: ..\AddOns\ShoutOut\ShoutOut.lua line 10: |
| 15:24.46 | what-K | attempt to index local 'spell' (a nil value) |
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| 15:24.57 | Shirik|AFK | oh right |
| 15:25.01 | Shirik|AFK | you have to adjust the line above it too |
| 15:25.02 | Shirik|AFK | oops |
| 15:25.03 | Shirik|AFK | local spell = arg1:match("^(.+) fades from you%.$"); |
| 15:25.16 | Shirik|AFK | what does your combat log look like when a buff wears off? |
| 15:26.18 | what-K | 'Befehlsruf' schwindet von Euch. |
| 15:27.01 | cncfanatics | is Toadkiller around ? |
| 15:27.07 | cncfanatics | ~seen Toadkiller |
| 15:27.08 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 46m 57s ago, saying: 'Oh killer! The combo would be even better than itemrack since I am not currently using any of its autoequip stuff.'. |
| 15:27.08 | what-K | please can u write it for me |
| 15:27.09 | Shirik|AFK | ok |
| 15:27.13 | Shirik|AFK | change that line to: |
| 15:27.16 | what-K | its so hard for me |
| 15:27.21 | Shirik|AFK | local spell = arg1:match("^(.+) schwindet von Euch%.$"); |
| 15:27.51 | what-K | ok |
| 15:28.36 | what-K | local spell = arg1:match("^(.+) schwindet von Euch%.$"); |
| 15:28.36 | what-K | if spell:match("Befehlsruf") or spell:match("Schlachtruf") then |
| 15:28.44 | ulic | I've seen the german client actually use ' marks in the combat log, so might want to do "^'(.+)' schwindet von Euch%.$" |
| 15:28.56 | Shirik|AFK | do they really? |
| 15:28.58 | ulic | but either way it's no big deal |
| 15:29.08 | Shirik|AFK | wierd |
| 15:29.15 | Tuks | anyone familiar with DKPMon and Bidder? |
| 15:29.18 | Shirik|AFK | unless the language calls for it I guess |
| 15:29.39 | what-K | Shirik|AFK what now ? |
| 15:29.40 | ulic | yep, staring at german transcriptor log right now that has that exact line :) |
| 15:29.47 | Shirik|AFK | what-K: That should be it |
| 15:30.29 | what-K | local spell = arg1:match("^(.+) schwindet von Euch%.$"); |
| 15:30.29 | what-K | if spell:match("Befehlsruf") or spell:match("Schlachtruf") then |
| 15:30.32 | what-K | so iss ok ? |
| 15:30.39 | Shirik|AFK | it should be |
| 15:30.48 | what-K | kk |
| 15:30.50 | ulic | actually that would affect your match statement no? |
| 15:30.50 | what-K | i try |
| 15:30.57 | Shirik|AFK | ulic: negative |
| 15:31.09 | ulic | oh match does any part of the string? |
| 15:31.09 | Shirik|AFK | Befehlsruf matches 'Befehlsruf' |
| 15:31.12 | Shirik|AFK | yes |
| 15:31.15 | ulic | oh, ok |
| 15:31.47 | Shirik|AFK | lua> ([['foo']]):match"foo" |
| 15:31.48 | cladbot | Shirik|AFK: foo, |
| 15:31.50 | Shirik|AFK | =) |
| 15:32.37 | ulic | it wasn't that I didn't believe you I just wasn't sure myself :) |
| 15:32.56 | ulic | whats the difference between match and find then? |
| 15:33.22 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 15:33.23 | Shirik|AFK | lua> ([['foo']]):match"foo" |
| 15:33.23 | cladbot | Shirik|AFK: foo, |
| 15:33.25 | sag_ich_nicht | stop failing so hard |
| 15:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and just use parserlib |
| 15:33.27 | Shirik|AFK | lua> ([['foo']]):find"foo" |
| 15:33.27 | cladbot | Shirik|AFK: 2, 4, |
| 15:33.30 | sag_ich_nicht | like any sane person would do |
| 15:33.40 | sag_ich_nicht | and don't give 2 shits about the localisation |
| 15:33.41 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 15:33.55 | Shirik|AFK | for a 10 line program? |
| 15:33.55 | Shirik|AFK | no. |
| 15:34.04 | Shirik|AFK | I never even intended to distribute it |
| 15:34.20 | ulic | ah ok, good t know. |
| 15:34.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't check what the addon does |
| 15:34.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i just read localisation problems with combat log parsing |
| 15:34.35 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 15:34.44 | Shirik|AFK | it tells you when a warrior shout is fading |
| 15:34.47 | Shirik|AFK | that's it |
| 15:34.50 | Shirik|AFK | I wrote it in 5 minutes :P |
| 15:35.01 | Shirik|AFK | there is more comments than code |
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| 15:42.32 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53648 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Flash: Create the frame on the first flash, not on Enable, if we don't use it we don't want it, misc cleanups |
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| 15:47.38 | what-K | Shirik|AFK it works |
| 15:47.51 | Shirik|AFK | cool :) |
| 15:47.58 | what-K | thx |
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| 15:50.59 | CIA-7 | 03nefarion * r53649 10ItemQuery/ (. ItemQuery.lua ItemQuery.toc): |
| 15:50.59 | CIA-7 | ItemQuery: |
| 15:50.59 | CIA-7 | - Initial commit: A simple slash-command-based addon for querying item information from the Blizzard servers via ItemIDs. |
| 15:53.36 | Xinhuan | there's already an addon that does that nefarion :o |
| 15:53.40 | Xinhuan | its called Sniff |
| 15:53.42 | Xinhuan | on wowace |
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| 15:54.27 | CIA-7 | 03nefarion * r53650 10ChainLink/ChainLink.lua: |
| 15:54.27 | CIA-7 | ChainLink: |
| 15:54.28 | CIA-7 | - Fixed typo. |
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| 15:55.18 | what-K | Shirik|AFK one question |
| 15:55.39 | what-K | when i get the msg that the spell is fading |
| 15:56.12 | what-K | there stands ** 'Befehlsruf' Faded ** |
| 15:56.27 | what-K | can i remove the two ' ? |
| 15:58.25 | ulic | I've seen the german client actually use ' marks in the combat log, so might want to do "^'(.+)' schwindet von Euch%.$" |
| 15:58.30 | ulic | I think that should do it |
| 15:58.36 | ulic | put the ' outside the () |
| 16:00.21 | what-K | local spell = arg1:match("^(.+) schwindet von Euch%.$"); |
| 16:00.24 | what-K | so it is now |
| 16:00.29 | what-K | what must i do ? |
| 16:00.53 | ulic | just change (.+) it to '(.+)' |
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| 16:02.05 | what-K | ulic hää ? |
| 16:02.27 | what-K | local spell = arg1:match"^'(.+)' schwindet von Euch%.$"); |
| 16:02.28 | what-K | so ? |
| 16:02.32 | ulic | yep |
| 16:02.56 | ulic | except you missed an opening ( |
| 16:03.01 | ulic | after match |
| 16:03.15 | what-K | local spell = arg1:match("^'(.+)' schwindet von Euch%.$"); |
| 16:03.25 | ulic | that should do it |
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| 16:06.30 | Audrina | Random question but whats the best place for motes of shadow? |
| 16:07.27 | Mooz1 | nagrand |
| 16:07.28 | Mooz1 | imo |
| 16:07.31 | deltron | ^ |
| 16:07.32 | durcyn | voidwalkers in HFP also |
| 16:07.58 | Audrina | Around the Oshu'gun thing |
| 16:08.07 | Obelixprime | does anyone know how to show how many times i've received a buff like pw:fortitude using assessment? |
| 16:09.14 | ulic | I think there is a buffs thing built in already |
| 16:09.59 | Obelixprime | there's aura's |
| 16:10.10 | Obelixprime | so, i can find out how many times i get a set bonus type of thing |
| 16:10.16 | Obelixprime | but i couldn't find the buffs |
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| 16:10.29 | Obelixprime | bleh |
| 16:10.30 | Obelixprime | brb |
| 16:10.33 | ulic | hmm, lemme see |
| 16:11.20 | alext | Audrina: another good place is in Hellfire Peninsula, at "Pools of Aggonar". There are demons there that drop them. Map = http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=3483 |
| 16:13.20 | CIA-7 | 03ominous 07Ace3 * r53651 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua options.lua): ClassTimer: Added profile settings |
| 16:13.37 | ulic | my aura's records a buff I get as a set bonus, specifically Haste from my rogues Assassination set. Also in the Display Set for Auras I changed the Fight Data to 'Total Data' so I could see how many times it was procing over the coarse of an instance run. |
| 16:15.04 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19852 <-- also drops mote of shadow so it seems :) |
| 16:15.13 | Audrina | thanks I will give it a try. I know a lot of demons dont have them anymore. |
| 16:15.33 | Grum | oh nevermind |
| 16:15.38 | Grum | yeah those also dont have em anymore |
| 16:16.06 | Audrina | =/ |
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| 16:16.27 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17981 <-- those drop nicely |
| 16:16.32 | ramoz | i heard the voidwalkers around the big rock south in nagrand is the best place now |
| 16:16.40 | Grum | and spawn fast enough to provide for ~3 people |
| 16:16.42 | deltron | ramoz: that also |
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| 16:19.04 | Paradox | what jackass decided to set "colour hostile by class" as the default option in whatever new version of Aloft I just updated too |
| 16:19.14 | Paradox | couldn't see shit in this battleground @_@ |
| 16:19.52 | the-golem | jeeez |
| 16:19.58 | the-golem | all the talking happens when i look away |
| 16:20.48 | Mooz1 | kek |
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| 16:25.23 | Tuks | anyone familiar with DKPMon and Bidder? |
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| 16:28.22 | miica | ha ha problem :'( |
| 16:28.28 | miica | "ShadowSeerr assumes every warlock in the raid has improved Shadow Bolt. " |
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| 16:32.30 | what-K | one more question where can i get ony timestamps for wow ? |
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| 16:41.44 | Xinhuan | mmm November 1st |
| 16:41.51 | Xinhuan | time to get a bag of free gems from consortium |
| 16:42.45 | Stanzilla | lol |
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| 16:42.52 | Kuja^ | heh |
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| 16:44.30 | CIA-7 | 03nefarion * r53652 10ItemQuery/ItemQuery.toc: |
| 16:44.30 | CIA-7 | ItemQuery: |
| 16:44.30 | CIA-7 | - TOC update. |
| 16:45.02 | Audrina | O yea thats right! |
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| 16:51.25 | Ominous | does anyone use !SurfaceControl here? |
| 16:51.37 | Ominous | and is on wow atm |
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| 16:55.42 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53653 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Really fix the bug with missing textures this time |
| 16:57.13 | CIA-7 | 03ominous 07Ace3 * r53654 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: Now !SurfaceControl should work |
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| 16:58.58 | CIA-7 | 03phanx * r53655 10Automaton/modules/Flight.lua: |
| 16:58.58 | CIA-7 | Automaton: |
| 16:58.58 | CIA-7 | - Flight: don't cancel Shadowform at the flight master! |
| 16:59.41 | xyu | i successfully pally tanked kara first time. /cheer |
| 16:59.55 | NivFreak | grats |
| 17:00.21 | Obelixprime | awesome lol |
| 17:00.25 | xyu | i did get a double crushing blow from moroes totally 10k hp |
| 17:00.26 | xyu | tho :( |
| 17:00.43 | xyu | luckily he was at 4% |
| 17:00.55 | Obelixprime | bubble hearth? |
| 17:01.05 | xyu | i should have |
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| 17:02.18 | Obelixprime | how does aloft use threat1.0? |
| 17:02.42 | NivFreak | you're not uncrushable? |
| 17:03.13 | what-K | ulic here ß |
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| 17:08.02 | spine | IRCOP HACK JOIN HERE http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139625893 |
| 17:08.16 | Gngsk | spamalicious |
| 17:08.29 | kenlyric | hero? |
| 17:08.45 | Poof | . |
| 17:09.31 | Gagorian | that didn't take long |
| 17:09.32 | Gagorian | :D |
| 17:10.13 | Obelixprime | lol |
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| 17:20.04 | Erica | Anyone know if it's possible to get parrot to show a hunter pet's incoming damage? |
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| 17:20.56 | Erica | Or does anyone know of an ace scrolling combat text that does? |
| 17:21.10 | Obelixprime | i use msbt |
| 17:21.11 | Obelixprime | sorry |
| 17:21.33 | Erica | like it? |
| 17:22.09 | Obelixprime | yeah, i like it particularly for its way of dealing with multiple dots/hots |
| 17:22.21 | durcyn | parrot might. |
| 17:22.28 | NightHawkAtWork | msbt is quite nice, and generally comparable with parrot |
| 17:22.30 | Obelixprime | if a number of dots/hots occur within a certain time span (2-3 seconds) it will group it together as one thing |
| 17:22.38 | Obelixprime | parrot does the grouping too? |
| 17:22.43 | Erica | ooooh less clutter |
| 17:22.46 | durcyn | yes, parrot does grouping. |
| 17:22.59 | Obelixprime | hmmm |
| 17:23.01 | Erica | Only thing about parrot is it doesn't show my pet's incoming damage |
| 17:23.02 | Obelixprime | i might try that ten |
| 17:23.32 | Erica | It didn't used to matter that much until I switched to bm spec |
| 17:24.00 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53656 10CatPoints/CatDPS-2.2.lua: |
| 17:24.00 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 17:24.00 | CIA-7 | - Removed stale references to tableName |
| 17:24.08 | Obelixprime | how about memory consumptuion (although I'm pretty sure msbt doesn't use up that much) |
| 17:24.22 | Erica | Parrot uses a little over a mb normally |
| 17:24.51 | Obelixprime | one thing i wanted in msbt that was in sct, was how you can have the sides angled and what nto |
| 17:25.10 | Obelixprime | msbt only supports straight, sideways, and circular |
| 17:25.15 | Obelixprime | which i didn't particularly like |
| 17:27.27 | Erica | think I'm gonna give msbt a shot |
| 17:27.57 | Erica | thanks |
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| 17:28.11 | Obelixprime | np |
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| 17:38.02 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53657 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.lua libs/): ag_UnitFrames: ace3 branch: Removed GUI+libs from core, moving to options addon |
| 17:38.57 | Obelixprime | oh man, i spent an hour downloading the libraries required cause i installed a whole bunch of addons without externals |
| 17:39.23 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3_Options * r53658 10ag_UnitFrames/ (. ag_Options.lua ag_UnitFrames_Options.toc embeds.xml libs/): ag_UnitFrames_Options: first commit |
| 17:41.10 | buu | Is there anyway to make SimpleCombatLog refrain from displaying actions with amounts smaller than X? |
| 17:41.40 | Ozguli | btw who's the ag_unitframes deb? |
| 17:41.44 | Ozguli | dev even |
| 17:41.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Ozguli: ag` |
| 17:41.54 | NightHawkAtWork | buu: not that i'm aware |
| 17:41.56 | Ozguli | it shows my hp bar as "DEAD" |
| 17:42.03 | buu | NightHawkAtWork: That's unfortunate. |
| 17:42.05 | Ozguli | if I release spirit in tempest keep |
| 17:42.28 | Ozguli | but I'm really alive then |
| 17:42.37 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3_Options * r53659 10ag_UnitFrames/: ag_UnitFrames_Options: ace3 branch: Added externals |
| 17:43.19 | Gilded | Is there any sort of an option or addon to have grid change the layout based on the size of your group, or the instance/bg? |
| 17:43.32 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3_Options * r53660 10ag_UnitFrames/embeds.xml: ag_UnitFrames_Options: ace3 branch: embeds.xml cutdown |
| 17:43.43 | Obelixprime | Gilded: I want to know that too :P |
| 17:43.56 | Obelixprime | But I think I might drop Grid in favour of PitBull raid frames |
| 17:46.43 | Gilded | Obelixprime: I looked into that as well, but I like the indicators on Grid. |
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| 17:47.13 | kenlyric | drop grid? blasphemy |
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| 17:47.47 | Obelixprime | can you make grid be one column? |
| 17:47.51 | Obelixprime | like pbrf? |
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| 17:48.22 | Chompers | Grid > *.* |
| 17:48.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Obelixprime: i bet with some layout tweaking you probably could |
| 17:49.55 | NightHawkAtWork | although if you don't need all the extras grid provides and just want a basic single-column raid frames, perfectraid is pretty nice for that |
| 17:50.54 | durcyn | perfectraid is pretty nice for everything |
| 17:52.11 | Obelixprime | http://i17.tinypic.com/6438pjt.jpg |
| 17:52.21 | Obelixprime | that's my current ui mainly, but replace violation with assessment on the right |
| 17:52.42 | Obelixprime | what i effectively want to do is take all those things on the bottom right and shift them down and move my raid frames to the top left |
| 17:53.22 | durcyn | you really should try praid then. |
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| 17:53.56 | Obelixprime | another thing that annoys me is i can't limit how many rows appear in xloot |
| 17:53.57 | Obelixprime | :/ |
| 17:54.04 | durcyn | i can post some savedvariable with all t5/t6 debuff highlighting enabled as well, if that's what's holding you back |
| 17:54.07 | Obelixprime | like it spams basically my entire right side of the screen |
| 17:54.12 | durcyn | not sure how many of them grid has predefined |
| 17:54.26 | Obelixprime | like BB and all that? |
| 17:54.31 | Xuerian | Obelixprime: Feh? Limit? |
| 17:55.25 | Obelixprime | Xuerian: I turned on an option somewhere to show what people rolled (need/greed/pass) and since my guild runs on group loot whenever an item drops the xloot window just gets spammed so it reaches the bottom of my screen |
| 17:56.25 | Xuerian | That doesn't make much sense, you mean when multiple green or better items drop, it gets spammed with rolls as the existing ones fade? |
| 17:56.35 | Obelixprime | yeah |
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| 17:57.01 | Obelixprime | you see in my screenshot how i have the xloot monitor in teh top right |
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| 17:58.13 | Xuerian | Well, you can either change the direction it grows, or I can probably add a option to change the fadeHoldTime |
| 17:58.48 | Obelixprime | I thought there was already an option like that |
| 17:59.18 | Xuerian | No, it's pretty straightforward. The option shouldn't be hard, but I won't be able to test it easily; blizzard made it so you can't force rolls on lower than greens |
| 18:00.09 | Obelixprime | The entries in the monitor fade rather quickly, but when 2-3 items drop and 25 people are rolling on them that entire side of my frame just gets spammed with |
| 18:00.09 | Obelixprime | [greed icon] [item name] [raid member] |
| 18:00.25 | Xuerian | Ohhh |
| 18:00.32 | Xuerian | You mean monitor showing who rolled what |
| 18:00.35 | Obelixprime | yeah |
| 18:00.40 | Obelixprime | sorry for not being clear |
| 18:01.43 | Xuerian | that obeys the fade time in monitor, kindof hard to differentiate. Since your chat window gets spammed the same way it does (In a slightly more controllable way), it's hard to not do that, as that's really all it's doing; visually displaying the text that normally goes into the chat window |
| 18:02.01 | Obelixprime | i disabled that within my chat window |
| 18:02.19 | Obelixprime | i guess there's a way to disable that in the xloot monitor frame too? |
| 18:02.34 | Xuerian | Turn off showing what people selected in Monitor |
| 18:02.35 | Obelixprime | i'm pretty sure I did |
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| 18:02.40 | Obelixprime | ok |
| 18:02.43 | Xuerian | (Selecting n/g/p) |
| 18:02.51 | Obelixprime | i'll try taht |
| 18:02.52 | Obelixprime | that |
| 18:03.01 | Xuerian | The numbers of ngp should show up still on Group, if you're using that |
| 18:03.15 | Xuerian | Which you are, yay for actually paying attention to the SS |
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| 18:03.42 | Obelixprime | a question about that, where is the group monitor? |
| 18:03.55 | Obelixprime | i see the loot rolls and the loot monitor |
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| 18:04.26 | Xuerian | Group is Loot Rolls |
| 18:05.40 | Xuerian | Group shows need/greed/passes in text next to each roll (Which is why it takes so long to fade each row, so you can kindof watch), but it wasn't practical to add another AnchorsAway stack (The rows system I made) to Group just to show who rolled what, so the somewhat matching functionality of that [icon][name][who] notification went into Monitor |
| 18:06.45 | Xuerian | If you haven't yet, you do have to turn on Show current rolls in Group to see those rolls |
| 18:07.38 | Xuerian | You can also hide the anchors on those two things, you'll be able to turn them back on through /xloot options -> monitor, or Addon Preferences |
| 18:08.02 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 18:08.11 | Gnarfoz | who maintains Violation? |
| 18:08.21 | Xuerian | vharr, wasn't it? |
| 18:08.37 | Xuerian | and [Ammo] I wanna say |
| 18:08.38 | Gnarfoz | I get the distinct feeling SW_S spying is broken somehow - if it's enabled, SW_S people don't show up in the stats |
| 18:10.25 | cncfanatics | ~seen Toadkiller |
| 18:10.34 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 30m 23s ago, saying: 'Oh killer! The combo would be even better than itemrack since I am not currently using any of its autoequip stuff.'. |
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| 18:18.28 | Obelixprime | Xuerian: thanks, I'll mess around with it when I get home from work |
| 18:19.10 | Xuerian | Obelixprime: enjoy |
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| 18:21.32 | Obelixprime | Xuerian: I just feel like I'm not using the mod the correct way |
| 18:22.03 | Xuerian | Obelixprime: heh, it was a oddly made mod anyway, feel free to ping me when you get home and can play with i |
| 18:22.05 | Xuerian | it* |
| 18:22.59 | mykx | hi got a quick question about Violation, as well as displaying data from SW:stats does it also send your personal data to other players using sw:stats ? |
| 18:22.59 | Obelixprime | will do |
| 18:23.34 | Obelixprime | i don't think it publishes itself to swstats... although i'm not too sure |
| 18:23.46 | mykx | ah damn ok thanks |
| 18:24.00 | Obelixprime | i know it can spy on sws but i don't know if it goes the other way around |
| 18:24.09 | Obelixprime | if it did, i'm sure there's an option somewhere to toggle it |
| 18:24.09 | mykx | yeah that's what I was wondering about |
| 18:24.10 | durcyn | no, it cannot. |
| 18:26.06 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3_Options * r53661 10ag_UnitFrames/ (. ag_Options.lua libs/): ag_UnitFrames_Options: ace3 branch: fixed libs externals |
| 18:26.12 | Obelixprime | still wondering how i can get assessment to show how many times i've been buffed a certain raid buff |
| 18:26.21 | Obelixprime | such as AI, Fort, or MOTW |
| 18:26.44 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53662 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: ace3 branch: new :OnRegisterOptions API for modules, should return the modules config table |
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| 18:37.52 | many | the idiot who placed the helloween pot in shatt where the homestone brings you oughta be shot |
| 18:38.20 | Mooz1 | why? |
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| 18:39.00 | charon | baer_: strange things happening.... just killed leotheras and omen/threat seemed to reset fine |
| 18:39.02 | many | because you appear directly between the desk and this pot |
| 18:39.13 | many | and you have to like jump to get outta there |
| 18:39.35 | Mooz1 | er |
| 18:39.41 | Chompers | scryer? |
| 18:39.42 | Mooz1 | your server is weird/roll a smaller character :P |
| 18:40.03 | many | nah, the aldor resting place |
| 18:40.10 | many | whatever this is called in english. =) |
| 18:40.14 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53663 10BigWigs/ (50 files in 9 dirs): |
| 18:40.14 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 18:40.14 | CIA-7 | - nuke all translator comments as some people can't add them without breaking stuff |
| 18:40.14 | CIA-7 | - also, translators, please test your changes |
| 18:40.15 | many | oh, food, bbl |
| 18:40.41 | siIentium | many: there is not one single spot where all people appear when they harth, it seems to save your current location when you bind your HS instead |
| 18:41.31 | siIentium | so just move a few steps to the side and set your HS again, that should fix your own idiotic HS spot ;> |
| 18:42.30 | Mooz1 | many: nah, the aldor resting place << aldor inn |
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| 18:44.08 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53664 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: also, if you want to credit someone, do it in the commit note, e.g. thanks to (...) |
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| 18:47.07 | [Ammo] | Xuerian: what about violation? |
| 18:47.07 | CIA-7 | 03lilsparky * r53665 10LilSparkysWorkshop/lilsparkysworkshop.lua: |
| 18:47.07 | CIA-7 | LilSparkysWorkshop: |
| 18:47.07 | CIA-7 | - fixed level display for atsw/blizzard frames |
| 18:47.07 | CIA-7 | - reworked tooltip display to use a custom tooltip instead of the GameTooltip |
| 18:48.03 | Xuerian | [14:08] Gnarfoz: who maintains Violation? |
| 18:48.18 | Gnarfoz | [Ammo]: I get the distinct feeling SW_S spying is broken somehow - if it's enabled, SW_S people don't show up in the stats |
| 18:48.26 | Xuerian | I was saying I couldn't remember if it was you, rabbit, or both :p |
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| 18:49.27 | Gnarfoz | actually, as I just c&p'd that from earlier, my current observations are: I switched on SW_S spying while combat was going on, and for a brief moment I saw sw_s users in my list, then the entire list was replaced by different values again |
| 18:49.31 | Gnarfoz | weird |
| 18:50.43 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 18:50.51 | [Ammo] | it has worked fine here |
| 18:51.12 | many | siIentium: mh. interesting observation, funnily enough, its the same spot for two of my chars AND the only char of my gf |
| 18:51.53 | many | while it may be random that i set both of em to that idiotic spot :> i doubt my gf did the same idiotic thing, too. she's rather rationale (or so.;) |
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| 19:02.18 | blay | anyone here use itempricetooltip? |
| 19:03.03 | blay | is there a way to disable it from showing itemlevel? |
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| 19:08.48 | Arrowmaster | many: its defently where your standing when you bind that sets the location, people used to kite innkeepers around to set hearths in weird places like next to the portal to MC in BRM |
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| 19:11.01 | many | heh |
| 19:11.21 | Busko | hi dose anyone use drdamage ? |
| 19:17.36 | `Zypher | Yes |
| 19:17.38 | `Zypher | =D |
| 19:18.00 | Busko | why dos my finishing moves on rogue show 0 all the time ? |
| 19:18.58 | `Zypher | I'm not sure mine updates fairly frequently |
| 19:19.05 | `Zypher | I play a SPriest |
| 19:20.00 | Antiar1 | Busko: They show 0 when you have 0 combo points |
| 19:20.38 | Busko | ahh |
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| 19:20.41 | Busko | :( |
| 19:20.45 | Busko | yea notice now |
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| 19:21.06 | Busko | kind of hard to see then :( |
| 19:21.15 | Busko | during a fight |
| 19:21.53 | Antiarc | Eh. Damage finisher wise, rupture > eviscerate > envenom |
| 19:22.00 | Antiarc | No real need to know what they're expected to hit for. |
| 19:22.10 | Busko | w:p |
| 19:22.29 | Busko | only use envenom when mob is like below 10% and its a fsat dying mob |
| 19:22.33 | Busko | not bosses |
| 19:23.06 | Busko | coz i usaly hit high with envenom |
| 19:23.06 | Mooz1 | what does envenom do? |
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| 19:23.07 | Pkekyo | Someone posted a screenshot of a prot warrior grinding the demon hunter apprentices in shadowmoon valley here the other day...anyone got a link/know who it was? |
| 19:24.22 | Busko | mooz1 it dose 1 sec |
| 19:24.39 | Busko | depending on how many posions u have on |
| 19:24.42 | Busko | it dose more damage |
| 19:24.58 | Busko | 5 = 1164 |
| 19:25.59 | Kalroth | moonsorrow: There? |
| 19:26.03 | Mooz1 | is that any poison or just deadly? |
| 19:26.11 | Mooz1 | any poison that stacks, anyway |
| 19:26.17 | Busko | so what dose the coeffs mean |
| 19:26.22 | Busko | no deadly poison |
| 19:26.48 | Busko | and its classed as instant posion damage i think |
| 19:27.05 | Xinhuan | antiarc, apparently some parts of the Omen frame isn't hidden, but merely transparent when i'm not in a party/raid, because i can right click on empty space to get omen menus |
| 19:27.16 | Antiarc | Yeah, I ran into that last night too |
| 19:27.21 | Antiarc | I'm working on tracking it down |
| 19:27.42 | Xinhuan | [2007/11/02 03:23:31-3387-x4]: Dewdrop-2.0-48630 (DewdropLib):2813: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'left' (a nil value) |
| 19:27.42 | Xinhuan | Dewdrop-2.0-48630 (DewdropLib):2984: in function `Open' |
| 19:27.42 | Xinhuan | Omen-2.1r50185\OmenDisplay.lua:359: in function <Interface\AddOns\Omen\OmenDisplay.lua:353> |
| 19:27.47 | Xinhuan | getting that error too |
| 19:28.15 | Xinhuan | which will probably help you find that transparent frame |
| 19:31.03 | Xinhuan | since i was able to click on "transparent" space to generate that error |
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| 19:32.32 | Xinhuan | the menu seems to appear properly for some transparent bars though, and generate the error for others |
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| 19:35.28 | Pkekyo | doesn't heating up rifle cartridges with a cigarette lighter sound like a great plan? :) |
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| 19:38.09 | Mooz1 | o.o |
| 19:39.31 | evl | Anyone profiled MSBT 5.0 vs Parrot vs Blizzard Combat Text? |
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| 19:41.20 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 19:41.31 | Xinhuan | but i wouldn't imagine there would be any big difference |
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| 19:42.38 | CIA-7 | 03peragor * r53666 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua: |
| 19:42.38 | CIA-7 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 19:42.38 | CIA-7 | - Added in 1 more UnitExists() check to prevent nil errors |
| 19:42.38 | CIA-7 | - Different modifiers for threat depending on how much threat unit has |
| 19:42.38 | CIA-7 | - For the class and group modifiers, I changed the instance type check from "~=pvp" to "==raid" |
| 19:44.32 | Pkekyo | Someone posted a screenshot of a prot warrior grinding the demon hunter apprentices in shadowmoon valley here the other day...anyone got a link/know who it was? |
| 19:45.29 | Stanzilla | that was a video |
| 19:45.34 | Stanzilla | hosted by filefront |
| 19:45.39 | Stanzilla | but I lost teh link :( |
| 19:46.48 | Pkekyo | no, the video was a paladin |
| 19:47.08 | Pkekyo | someone posted a screenie of a prot warr (dorf?) doing the same a day or two later...I wanna know how to do it >.< |
| 19:47.10 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53667 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 19:47.10 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 19:47.10 | CIA-7 | - Fix ACE-71 ( copying a profile over another already exisiting one ) |
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| 19:48.03 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53668 10Ace3/tests/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 19:48.03 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - tests |
| 19:48.03 | CIA-7 | - add a test for ACE-71 |
| 19:50.35 | Pkekyo | MS sucks for DW O.o |
| 19:51.26 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo: nah, it was a video of a prot warri :) |
| 19:51.36 | Stanzilla | 550dps :D |
| 19:53.18 | Ominous | nevcairiel: ping |
| 19:53.46 | nevcairiel | Ominous: pong |
| 19:54.32 | Ominous | nevcairiel: AceDB-3.0\AceDB-3.0.lua:20: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 19:54.44 | Ominous | when i do copy profile sinse that last change |
| 19:54.47 | Pkekyo | Stanzilla: then link the vid! I wanna know howto |
| 19:54.59 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53669 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/ (10 files in 10 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: ace3 branch: moved module options table to options addon |
| 19:55.32 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo: I lost it! :d |
| 19:55.36 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3_Options * r53670 10ag_UnitFrames/ (23 files in 12 dirs): ag_UnitFrames_Options: ace3 branch: moved module options table to options addon |
| 19:55.38 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53671 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: Another counter bugfix |
| 19:56.23 | Pkekyo | zomg, get it back, I need to figure out how to grind that place like that, seriously |
| 19:56.30 | nevcairiel | Ominous: huh, hm i see, i might know why that happens |
| 19:56.39 | Pkekyo | btw, the vid you're on about...was it by Zhinjio? |
| 19:56.57 | durcyn | Funkeh`: so after killing shahraz last night, it seems the debuff is being detected multiple times per application, rather than the bars themselves being at issue |
| 19:57.31 | nevcairiel | Ominous: actually, that error can only happen when you try to copy from an non-existing profile |
| 19:57.41 | Funkeh` | durcyn, and it only happens on the same debuff twice in a row? |
| 19:57.49 | Ominous | nevcairiel: well it deffinatly exists |
| 19:58.00 | Ominous | nevcairiel: as it works in set profile |
| 19:58.34 | Funkeh` | durcyn, do you mean they are actually stacking (2) etc? |
| 19:58.47 | durcyn | Funkeh`: no, they aren't stacking. and not multiple sequential same. |
| 19:59.23 | durcyn | Funkeh`: say Prismatic Shield: Holy is up. When it's applied, the announce triggers and the bar starts. |
| 19:59.40 | Funkeh` | right |
| 19:59.44 | durcyn | Funkeh`: I was seeing that Holy shield announced multiple times before the next shield |
| 19:59.55 | durcyn | sometimes just once, but sometimes 2 or 3 times |
| 20:00.02 | Funkeh` | urg |
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| 20:00.27 | durcyn | as a side effect, the bars ran over, but only because they were triggered by the announce |
| 20:01.23 | Funkeh` | but did you get bars when you got two of the same debuff in a row? |
| 20:01.26 | Funkeh` | durcyn, |
| 20:01.46 | durcyn | yes, that much seemed fine |
| 20:03.57 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53672 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua: ag_UnitFrames: ace3 branch: moved options locale to options addon |
| 20:04.11 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3_Options * r53673 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames_Options: ace3 branch: moved options locale to options addon |
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| 20:04.24 | nevcairiel | Ominous: i reproduced it, i think, gimme a sec |
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| 20:07.50 | nevcairiel | Ominous: umm, actually, i didnt, SetProfile() works on everything, creates new profiles if they dont exist, CopyProfile doesnt. I'll make it silently return and do nothing for not existing profiles, tho |
| 20:08.49 | Antiarc | http://stage6.divx.com/user/antiarc/video/1804847/Guild-of-Guilds-versus-Shade-of-Akama |
| 20:08.53 | Antiarc | lulz Akama. |
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| 20:09.58 | Ominous | nevcairiel: i create a new profile, copy from the origional one, it errors, i call setprofile with the same name and it changes back to the origional one |
| 20:11.30 | RaydenUni | how rare is the sinister squashling? |
| 20:12.27 | Funkeh` | durcyn, Its really confusing :x |
| 20:12.54 | Funkeh` | hmm maybe not |
| 20:13.17 | nevcairiel | Ominous: thats what i did, and no error |
| 20:13.17 | Ellipsis | RaydenUni: supposedly about a 2% drop rate |
| 20:13.33 | Ominous | nevcairiel: its with ClassTimer branch if you want to see |
| 20:13.37 | RaydenUni | i got it, and my ring, and the 275 broom on my 5th run |
| 20:13.42 | RaydenUni | just lucky i guess |
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| 20:13.59 | nevcairiel | Ominous: will check it out |
| 20:14.39 | NightHawkAtWork | RaydenUni: 225 broom or 300 broom? there's no 275.. |
| 20:14.40 | Ominous | nevcairiel: ok |
| 20:14.53 | RaydenUni | the normal flying |
| 20:15.20 | RaydenUni | so 225 i guess |
| 20:15.24 | NightHawkAtWork | yes |
| 20:18.53 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53674 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: revert my fix for the same debuff twice as it broke other stuff, need to think of an alternate solution. |
| 20:20.25 | Killmore2 | Funkeh`: did you read my suggestion about putting 1-2 or 3 symbols on the head of people who get the fatal attraction debuff ? |
| 20:20.40 | Funkeh` | yes |
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| 20:21.40 | Killmore2 | we are able to kill shahraz, but its hard, sometime, to see where you run with all the AE effect on your screen you see almost nothing hehe |
| 20:21.47 | nevcairiel | Ominous: that is indeed weird |
| 20:24.39 | Ominous | nevcairiel: and it worked before the fix |
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| 20:31.39 | Ominous | nevcairiel: any idea? |
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| 20:34.57 | nevcairiel | Ominous: working on it |
| 20:35.08 | Ominous | nevcairiel: :) |
| 20:36.23 | Ellipsis | WTB math wiz |
| 20:37.55 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53675 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 20:37.55 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 20:37.55 | CIA-7 | - fix copyTable utility function |
| 20:37.56 | nevcairiel | Ominous: that should fix it, finally pinned it down |
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| 20:38.26 | Ellipsis | come on, someone here must have a secret love of statistics :( |
| 20:38.40 | aestil | i do. |
| 20:38.45 | aestil | but the baseball kind |
| 20:38.47 | aestil | not the maths kind |
| 20:38.52 | Ellipsis | meanie |
| 20:39.18 | Ellipsis | I never took stats and I need help simplifying a problem involving probabilities :( |
| 20:40.04 | aestil | probabilities i can help you are low. |
| 20:40.06 | Megalon | i have a public aversion of statistics, does that count? |
| 20:40.17 | todd` | best place to farm motes of shadow? it seems like blizzard made them stop dropping from a lot of mobs |
| 20:41.08 | NivFreak | I used to farm them from the voidwalkers in hellfire |
| 20:41.12 | NivFreak | if they still drop from them |
| 20:41.31 | Mooz1 | voidwalkers in far east hellfire drop them, the voidwalkers in nagrand do as well |
| 20:41.52 | Mooz1 | same with the shadow creatures near mana forge ultris in netherstorm |
| 20:41.54 | Ominous | nevcairiel: ok ill try |
| 20:42.04 | Ellipsis | voidspawns in netherstorm as well |
| 20:42.22 | todd` | been reading that recently people have had very bad luck with the ones in hellfire and nagrand |
| 20:42.27 | NivFreak | if you're melee |
| 20:42.31 | NivFreak | you can camp their spawn point |
| 20:42.35 | NivFreak | and kill them nonstop |
| 20:42.36 | todd` | shadow priest :P |
| 20:42.37 | NivFreak | in hellfire |
| 20:42.48 | Ellipsis | I got a ton in netherstorm while farming for my enchant pattern |
| 20:42.58 | Mooz1 | i made three primal shadow in an hour on my warrior in nagrand |
| 20:42.59 | Ellipsis | if you're having trouble with drop rates in other zones, those might be worth a try |
| 20:43.27 | NivFreak | if the hellfire ones still drop it |
| 20:43.32 | NivFreak | they really are the best |
| 20:43.34 | NivFreak | super low level |
| 20:43.37 | NivFreak | endless respawns |
| 20:44.10 | Mooz1 | yeah, because they're in a starting zone their respawn time is very very small |
| 20:44.38 | Ellipsis | anyone know of an addon that shows total durability % in the char pane? |
| 20:44.44 | NivFreak | you pretty much can't kill them as fast as they spawn |
| 20:44.50 | Mooz1 | ratingbuster does afaik |
| 20:45.08 | Mooz1 | *iirc |
| 20:45.10 | Ellipsis | uh, no |
| 20:45.12 | Mooz1 | okay |
| 20:45.18 | Ellipsis | ratingbuster doesn't do anything with durability o.O |
| 20:45.20 | Mooz1 | i have a mod that does it, and i don't remember what it is |
| 20:45.58 | Ellipsis | the closest thing I've found so far is Fizzle, which is really close to what I want, except that it doesn't have an overall % anywhere :( |
| 20:46.18 | durcyn | fizzle + durabilityfu |
| 20:46.23 | Mooz1 | bah, fubar |
| 20:46.49 | Ellipsis | durcyn: I'm trying to get it *off* my fubar and into my char pane :P |
| 20:46.59 | Ellipsis | I don't need to see my durability all the time |
| 20:47.00 | Azure | bah.... did i say that i hate Archimonde? |
| 20:48.23 | Mooz1 | well |
| 20:48.25 | Mooz1 | you can use fizzle |
| 20:48.27 | Mooz1 | and then guess :P |
| 20:48.37 | Ominous | nevcairiel: say you are on profile a and copying from profile b you seem to have to change to any profile and back to profile a after the copy for the values that are still default to show |
| 20:48.59 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: a simple "100%" on your fubar takes up so much room that you need it off there? :P |
| 20:49.08 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: yes, actually |
| 20:49.16 | Ellipsis | my fubar is not very large |
| 20:49.21 | NightHawkAtWork | wts higher resolution. :P |
| 20:49.23 | Ellipsis | and I just don't care about my durability most of the time |
| 20:49.31 | nevcairiel | Ominous: eh? it doesnt apply defaults when you copyprofile? |
| 20:49.58 | Ellipsis | it's not that I can't survive with durability on my fubar - it's been there for a while - it's just that it doesn't need to be there. it's not optimal. I want a better way, dammit! :P |
| 20:50.44 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: i bet fizzle'd be easy to patch to do that. *shrug* |
| 20:50.47 | NivFreak | I have too much shit on my fubars |
| 20:50.59 | Ellipsis | yeah, I just hate having to modify all of my addons to make them work the way they should |
| 20:51.04 | Ominous | nevcairiel: its hard to explain, in classtimer if you are in the setup profile, then create a new one and copy from the setup profile the values which havent been changed from default are all nil unless you select a different profile and then the new one again |
| 20:51.04 | NivFreak | I also want to figure out how to disable the mouseover functionality in fubar completely |
| 20:51.09 | Ellipsis | it leaves me with way too much to take care of myself |
| 20:51.19 | NivFreak | nothing like having reputatiofu cover half my screen if I move my mouse to the wrong spot while tanking :) |
| 20:51.39 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: wouldn't disabling them in combat be enough? (at least for a start) |
| 20:51.42 | NightHawkAtWork | NivFreak: disable fubar tooltips while in combat, it has an option for tha |
| 20:51.49 | NivFreak | I do use that :) |
| 20:51.55 | NivFreak | doesn't help if I'm not yet in combat! :) |
| 20:52.03 | NivFreak | (on engage) |
| 20:52.13 | NivFreak | I just want an option to disable that completely |
| 20:52.17 | NivFreak | and require a click |
| 20:52.36 | NightHawkAtWork | requiring a click might be nice, though it would certainly interfere with onclick events. |
| 20:52.47 | Ellipsis | yeah, the problem is it would take a lot of reworking |
| 20:52.55 | NightHawkAtWork | but you people confuse me, i never have any issues with hovering over my fubar at the wrong time :\ |
| 20:53.02 | Ellipsis | because fubar plugins are allowed to register for various kinds of modified clicks already |
| 20:53.15 | Ellipsis | there's nothing reserved that could be used to show the tooltip |
| 20:56.24 | NightHawkAtWork | You know, I like the way my desk is situated facing the window in my office, but it's really annoying right about now when the sun shines right in my eyes |
| 20:56.54 | Ellipsis | sun? |
| 20:57.08 | Ellipsis | it's november. seattle doesn't have sun in november. |
| 20:57.26 | NightHawkAtWork | Tell that to the big yellow thing shining in my eyes. |
| 20:57.41 | Ominous | nevcairiel: do you get what i mean |
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| 20:58.40 | NightHawkAtWork | although, to be fair, i suppose i'm not technically in "seattle" at the moment |
| 20:58.46 | nevcairiel | Ominous: i think so, gimme a sec |
| 21:00.52 | Obelixprime | I suppose you're not a virgin either... |
| 21:01.35 | Ellipsis | O.O |
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| 21:03.13 | NightHawkAtWork | .. that's not out of left field at all, but no, no i'm not. |
| 21:03.47 | NightHawkAtWork | and why is it always left field? |
| 21:04.25 | Obelixprime | left field is where stuff is statistically hit too |
| 21:04.34 | Obelixprime | since there's more right handed battters than left handed ones |
| 21:04.54 | NightHawkAtWork | I see. |
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| 21:05.32 | Ellipsis | aestil? hold me :( |
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| 21:11.41 | JoshBorke | why are you disabling pitbull? |
| 21:12.00 | Ellipsis | because mine has a glitch causing huge memory usage and I just can't take it anymore :( |
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| 21:12.13 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 21:12.27 | Ellipsis | I don't know what I'll do /cry |
| 21:12.36 | JoshBorke | you could try using an older revision |
| 21:12.49 | backbone87 | need a good mailmod, including alt click attach, mass mail and mailbox autoloot. can someone help me? |
| 21:12.50 | Ellipsis | anything post-rock does it |
| 21:12.59 | JoshBorke | backbone87: i use CT_MailMod |
| 21:13.08 | Mooz1 | (4:10:39 PM) Ellipsis: because mine has a glitch causing huge memory usage and I just can't take it anymore :( << i've found the same problem |
| 21:13.17 | Ellipsis | Mooz1: seriously? |
| 21:13.20 | Mooz1 | i couldn't run mech with pitbull on |
| 21:13.27 | Mooz1 | my client would lock up |
| 21:13.28 | Ellipsis | I haven't been able to find anyone else who could duplicate the issue |
| 21:13.31 | aestil | ellipsis, just get minimalist |
| 21:13.41 | Ellipsis | aestil - ? |
| 21:13.43 | backbone87 | JoshBorke: had it and gmail, wasnt satisfied with it :( |
| 21:13.45 | aestil | it auto repairs your bags and your gear. |
| 21:13.52 | Ellipsis | aestil: not what I want |
| 21:13.59 | Ellipsis | I have my own code for autorepairing atm |
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| 21:14.14 | JoshBorke | backbone87: what didn't you like? |
| 21:14.21 | Ellipsis | I want an indicator of my current average durability of all equipped items that displays a simple percentage somewhere on my char frame |
| 21:14.24 | aestil | pitbull has a huge memory leak, when you just enable pitbull and req lib? |
| 21:14.35 | Ellipsis | nod |
| 21:14.38 | aestil | wierd. |
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| 21:14.47 | Ellipsis | even with all pitbull modules disabled |
| 21:14.49 | Mooz1 | ditto |
| 21:15.00 | Ellipsis | the usage gets attributed to LibRock though |
| 21:15.06 | Mooz1 | it runs relatively okay for the first 3 minutes, and then things get heavy, and eventually grind to a halt |
| 21:15.07 | backbone87 | gmail was perfect but overrides address line instead attaching the itemname |
| 21:15.31 | Ellipsis | Mooz1: do you have actual numbers to indicate that it's a memory issue? |
| 21:15.39 | Ellipsis | you could just be having Aura problems or something |
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| 21:16.07 | aestil | i have increasing rate of like .4 with my 180 mods/libs |
| 21:16.16 | Mooz1 | sitting still and going afk will still cause the issue |
| 21:16.25 | Mooz1 | i don't have numbers, as i don't use fubar |
| 21:16.32 | Ellipsis | you don't need fubar to see the numbers |
| 21:16.59 | Krittick | Okay, I have some addon that is spamming my chat window with "X is ignoring you" every 15 seconds or so. It's an ace addon, as I have disabled all of my non-ace addons. does anyone know what could cause this, and how to turn it off? |
| 21:17.18 | Mooz1 | what's it called? |
| 21:17.36 | Krittick | I don't know which addon is doing it. That's my question. :) |
| 21:17.46 | nevcairiel | Ominous: that seems to work for me .. i switch to an empty profile, copy my old profile over, and defaults work too |
| 21:17.48 | Antiarc | It's CowTip, likely |
| 21:17.54 | Ellipsis | I find that, with all modules and other addons disabled, just running the PitBull core causes LibRock to init ~2MiB instead of ~200KiB, and grow up to 5MiB over time (post-GC) |
| 21:17.55 | Antiarc | It's querying them for talent information via whisper |
| 21:18.07 | Arrowmaster | Krittick: disable talent querys in rock |
| 21:18.08 | cncfanatics | ehm, Cowtip uses Comm channels |
| 21:18.23 | cncfanatics | are comm channels affected by ignore messages ? if they are thats pretty poor design from blizz |
| 21:18.24 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: It uses a whisper. |
| 21:18.33 | Antiarc | And apparently so. |
| 21:18.45 | cncfanatics | shouldn't get an ignore message for comms, boo blizz :p |
| 21:18.59 | Antiarc | If you mouse over someone logging out or what have you, you'll get a "No player named "Unknown" is currently playing" message, too |
| 21:19.12 | Krittick | Is there any way to disable the talent feature of CowTip? |
| 21:19.16 | Ellipsis | yeah, that's kinda annoying |
| 21:19.23 | Arrowmaster | Krittick: yes its in rock |
| 21:19.24 | Antiarc | Yes, turn off talent queries in the Rock config |
| 21:19.37 | Krittick | Okay. I dechecked the talent queries. Let's see if it works. :) |
| 21:19.38 | Ellipsis | or just don't use talent DogTags |
| 21:19.39 | aestil | my lib rock had grown up to 500k so far today. |
| 21:19.51 | Krittick | Do I have to reload my UI after disabling that? |
| 21:19.59 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt |
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| 21:20.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 21:20.15 | Krittick | It's still spamming me after disabling it. |
| 21:20.17 | Ominous | nevcairiel: try with classtimer |
| 21:20.21 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 21:20.22 | Ellipsis | IIRC that checkbox only disables your responses, not your queries |
| 21:20.33 | Ellipsis | Krittick: remove the talent dogtags from your cowtip lines |
| 21:20.52 | Krittick | in the actual addon lua? |
| 21:20.58 | Antiarc | Disabling responses should disable queries |
| 21:21.22 | Ellipsis | Krittick, no, open the line texts config |
| 21:21.43 | aestil | antiarc! please make it so i can change colors and font / font size / information displayed on the pullout bar! |
| 21:21.51 | Krittick | aha, thanks, will check to see if it works |
| 21:21.54 | Obelixprime | oooh pullout ;) |
| 21:22.00 | Antiarc | aestil: I have to get time to actually work on Omen first! :) |
| 21:22.03 | nevcairiel | Ominous: found the issue |
| 21:22.21 | Ominous | nevcairiel: :) |
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| 21:22.36 | Krittick | It still spams me, gah. |
| 21:23.02 | Ellipsis | it may be another addon |
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| 21:23.10 | Ellipsis | you can always do the disable 50% thing :) |
| 21:23.25 | aestil | i want a CML type pluggin for foobar display/control |
| 21:23.44 | Ellipsis | eh? |
| 21:23.59 | Ellipsis | oh, you actually mean foobar, not fubar? |
| 21:24.00 | Krittick | Hrm, as a workaround, would it be possible to create some sort of suppression in Prat, to disable "is ignoring you" messages? |
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| 21:27.27 | Mooz1 | prat is the culprit, Krittick? |
| 21:28.27 | Orionshock | whats on trial? |
| 21:28.42 | aestil | foobar |
| 21:28.50 | Chompers | just saw your forum post Krittick |
| 21:28.52 | Chompers | heh |
| 21:28.53 | Krittick | No clue if Prat is, but I was wondering if I could create a custom filter in Prat to block "X is ignoring you." messages |
| 21:28.54 | aestil | i feel sorry for you Ellipsis you gonna use... what? |
| 21:28.57 | Krittick | heh |
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| 21:29.13 | aestil | it probably wouldn't happen if you were on darkspear |
| 21:29.36 | Obelixprime | anyone use gladiator? |
| 21:29.54 | Ellipsis | aestil: god only knows |
| 21:29.57 | Orionshock | Obelixprime: i did |
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| 21:30.35 | Orionshock | Krittick: turn on events and see what event thats listed under... you might have to "adjust" prat to pay attention to it |
| 21:30.41 | Ellipsis | my first stop is agUF, I think it will be the least painful transition |
| 21:30.51 | Orionshock | no |
| 21:30.56 | Orionshock | PitBull all the way |
| 21:30.59 | Ellipsis | if that doesn't do it for me...probably a HUD + Grid combo |
| 21:31.08 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: I'm switching from Pitbull, that's the whole point of this convo :P |
| 21:31.14 | Orionshock | lol |
| 21:31.22 | Mooz1 | i ditched pitbull and went with grid + metahud |
| 21:31.24 | Krittick | is that the Eventnames module? |
| 21:31.33 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53677 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0.lua): |
| 21:31.33 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 21:31.33 | CIA-7 | - another fix for copying profiles, and a test for that case |
| 21:31.36 | Mooz1 | i tried to stay full ace and use icehud... but its customization is so damn limited |
| 21:32.00 | Orionshock | Krittick: i believe it is called "Event Names" |
| 21:32.01 | Krittick | k, event is listed as CHAT_MSG_IGNORED |
| 21:32.01 | Ellipsis | "full ace" is pointless |
| 21:32.11 | nevcairiel | Ominous: ^ should be fixed too |
| 21:32.14 | Mooz1 | currently, aside from metahud, all i have are ace mods |
| 21:32.39 | Mooz1 | i don't have ALL the ace mods, that would suck up incomprehensible amounts of system resources :| |
| 21:32.40 | Ellipsis | I have some Ace, some Rock, some Dongle, some without frameworks |
| 21:32.44 | Orionshock | meh ace or not, i use what i like |
| 21:32.50 | Ellipsis | I just look for the best code to accomplish what I want |
| 21:33.00 | Ellipsis | the framework doesn't matter unless it's something inherently bad |
| 21:33.14 | Mooz1 | i tried to stay full ace simply because i can run the updater on patch day and be done, instead of trying to navigate around curse's god-awful site |
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| 21:33.27 | Ellipsis | Mooz1: that's full wowace, not full ace |
| 21:33.30 | Ellipsis | two different things |
| 21:33.33 | Mooz1 | ah |
| 21:33.40 | Ellipsis | besides, there are multi-site updaters that take care of that problem |
| 21:33.52 | Mooz1 | none of which i have or know about |
| 21:33.55 | Mooz1 | aside from wowaceupdater |
| 21:33.57 | Orionshock | hell wau can sorta take care of that |
| 21:34.06 | Krittick | So, what should my filter be in Prat, to ignore that event? |
| 21:34.40 | CIA-7 | 03pericles * r53678 10InventoryOnPar/ (. Textures/): |
| 21:34.40 | CIA-7 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 21:34.40 | CIA-7 | - |
| 21:34.40 | CIA-7 | First commit after project setup. |
| 21:34.42 | aestil | hay ellpiz, you should try DUF I HARE THEY ARE GOOT |
| 21:34.53 | deltron | kek |
| 21:35.00 | Orionshock | Krittick: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6243.msg153308#msg153308 |
| 21:35.15 | Orionshock | im no prat coder but i think thats your problem |
| 21:35.31 | Ellipsis | aestil: go die in a fire, this is painful enough already :( |
| 21:35.46 | Orionshock | btw if your trying to spress it from the chat window b/c a mod is acting up, you should fix the mod first |
| 21:36.54 | Krittick | I can't figure out what mod is doing that |
| 21:37.08 | Krittick | and I'm not in the mood to 50% it :/ |
| 21:37.28 | Orionshock | try diabling rock's tallent bcast |
| 21:37.32 | Orionshock | and wim |
| 21:37.33 | Ellipsis | he already did |
| 21:37.54 | Orionshock | u disable WIM? |
| 21:37.59 | Mooz1 | wim is the mod that spams me with x is ignoring you all the time |
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| 21:38.02 | Krittick | Hrm, wim could cause that? I thought I had disabled it, but I gues not. |
| 21:38.14 | aestil | transfer to dakrspear? |
| 21:38.19 | aestil | write me my chat mod? |
| 21:38.31 | Ellipsis | aestil: stop with the temptation already, srsly |
| 21:38.52 | Chompers | is SSC supposed to be easy? |
| 21:38.55 | aestil | with your gear, you'd probably go to our tk riads. |
| 21:38.57 | aestil | ssc is easy |
| 21:38.58 | Chompers | besides vashj |
| 21:39.02 | Obelixprime | Onionshock: Did it work for you? |
| 21:39.06 | Ellipsis | aestil: TK? srs? |
| 21:39.44 | aestil | feel free to app. we bring people who don't suck. |
| 21:39.52 | Antiarc | SSC is relatively easy. |
| 21:39.59 | Ellipsis | I can't app without discussing it with my bf first... |
| 21:40.24 | Xelopheris | Ellipsis is a chick? |
| 21:40.29 | Ellipsis | and he probably won't want to do a transfer since most of his chars are on inactive accounts, and I don't think he could transfer those without paying for subscriptions |
| 21:40.31 | Krittick | Or gay |
| 21:40.33 | Ellipsis | ya rly, Xelopheris |
| 21:40.36 | Ellipsis | or that |
| 21:41.02 | Krittick | Disabling WIM fixed it. That sucks. Any similar addons? |
| 21:41.12 | Chompers | it took so long to kill hydross, hope it isnt like this all the way through |
| 21:41.17 | Mooz1 | update WIM |
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| 21:41.29 | Orionshock | update it and renable it |
| 21:41.41 | Chompers | delete your SV file for WIM also |
| 21:41.55 | Orionshock | 9/10 for me if i reload my ui when something weird happens it fixes it'self |
| 21:42.13 | Krittick | Hrm, I have the newest WIM. |
| 21:42.40 | Orionshock | ok did u reload ur UI when it happened? |
| 21:42.42 | Orionshock | prolly not |
| 21:42.45 | Krittick | Yes |
| 21:42.47 | Mooz1 | ok, wipe it out, reinstall it, re-enable it, and log back in |
| 21:42.49 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 21:42.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 21:42.52 | Krittick | It's been happening for days. |
| 21:42.53 | Mooz1 | see if it continues to spam your chat |
| 21:43.03 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx_ (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 21:43.13 | Krittick | k I'll do that Mooz1 |
| 21:44.29 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53679 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 21:44.29 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 21:44.29 | CIA-7 | - small tweak |
| 21:44.29 | *** part/#wowace Ellipsis (n=ellipsis@cpe-76-168-207-103.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:44.33 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis (n=ellipsis@cpe-76-168-207-103.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:44.40 | Ellipsis | k so that wasn't the button I meant to hit |
| 21:44.44 | Mooz1 | kek |
| 21:45.38 | aestil | Ellipsis: try the ace3 agUF |
| 21:45.45 | neenee | Hm. Blizzard Background Downloader is getting 2.3 |
| 21:45.48 | Obelixprime | how is ace3? |
| 21:45.51 | Ellipsis | aestil: but what if I don't want to? |
| 21:45.55 | aestil | you don't have to. |
| 21:46.01 | aestil | what class is your BF? |
| 21:46.07 | aestil | right now we are starting 'off night' ssc raids |
| 21:46.09 | Ellipsis | hybrid druid, can tank or heal |
| 21:46.21 | Ellipsis | he needs gear though |
| 21:46.23 | Ellipsis | he's way behind me |
| 21:46.32 | aestil | he can get in kara offnights then :) |
| 21:46.46 | aestil | hit capped and 1k + dmg = 25 man raids. |
| 21:46.54 | Ellipsis | that can't be right |
| 21:47.03 | aestil | why? |
| 21:47.12 | Ellipsis | I only have one kara item and one heroic item, everything else is 5man stuff |
| 21:47.23 | aestil | you get alot more health and mana. |
| 21:47.28 | CIA-7 | 03pericles * r53680 10FuBar_IOPFu/ (. FuBar_IOPFu.toc InventoryOnParFu.lua): |
| 21:47.28 | CIA-7 | FuBar_IOPFu: inital commit |
| 21:47.28 | CIA-7 | - Used to view & control InventoryOnPar addon and see your own personal score |
| 21:47.37 | aestil | !c us darkspear lastwords |
| 21:47.39 | ThraeBot | aestil: Lastwords, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 9920 HP; 8740 Mana; 114 mana regen; 202 spell crit; 176 spell hit; 933 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (987); 164 shadow dmg (1097); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 524 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2calyr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mupk6 ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 13:51:44 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:47.52 | Ellipsis | :/ |
| 21:47.54 | aestil | he's not hit capped cause he has mag |
| 21:47.56 | aestil | trinket |
| 21:48.02 | aestil | so... i don't like that. |
| 21:48.02 | Ellipsis | !c us cenarius Ellipsis |
| 21:48.04 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Ellipsis, Level 70 Human Warlock (43/0/18). 9770 HP; 7855 Mana; 144 mana regen; 53 spell crit; 198 spell hit; 802 +spell dmg; 179 frost dmg (981); 179 shadow dmg (981); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 1352 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuuupd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q7kuc ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 13:52:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:48.06 | aestil | but his dmg is rocken |
| 21:48.34 | Ellipsis | so basically I need a little more dmg, a ton of crit, and some sta/int? |
| 21:48.51 | Aeyan | ...Why is an affliction lock so loaded with crit? |
| 21:48.55 | aestil | you'd be fine to start. |
| 21:49.08 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx_ (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 21:49.09 | Ellipsis | Aeyan: probably gearing for the shadow dest switch |
| 21:49.11 | Krittick | Ugh |
| 21:49.11 | Aeyan | Not that his damage is shabby, but still |
| 21:49.20 | aestil | cause soemtimes you take the gear you can get? |
| 21:49.26 | Krittick | completely wiping WIM and reinstalling it didn't fix my issue |
| 21:49.28 | aestil | and its not your first choice, but its better than what you have? |
| 21:49.42 | aestil | besides, all locks are still gonna spam SB when they dot. |
| 21:49.47 | Arrowmaster | Krittick: did you try disabling WIM? |
| 21:49.48 | aestil | so crit = a bunch more dot dmg. |
| 21:49.49 | Aeyan | No need to state the obvious |
| 21:50.03 | Krittick | Yes, disabling fixes my issue, but I want WIM's functionality :( |
| 21:50.15 | aestil | Krittick: cellualr? |
| 21:50.17 | Arrowmaster | Krittick: complain to the WIM author |
| 21:50.20 | *** join/#wowace ZarielAZN (i=Zariel@host81-154-34-35.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:50.26 | Mooz1 | is the person that's ignoring you on any sort of list? |
| 21:50.27 | aestil | !c us darkspear aestil. |
| 21:50.28 | ThraeBot | aestil: aestil. is not the character you are looking for! |
| 21:50.32 | Mooz1 | firiend list, ignore list, etc |
| 21:50.34 | Ellipsis | hah |
| 21:50.34 | deltron | I use cellular personally |
| 21:50.36 | Mooz1 | *friend even |
| 21:50.36 | Krittick | Mooz1: No. |
| 21:50.43 | aestil | !c us darkspear aestil |
| 21:50.44 | ThraeBot | aestil: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 9471 HP; 9930 Mana; 221 mana regen; 42 mp5; 118 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 987 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1041); 113 shadow dmg (1100); 5.54% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 frost);[[ TBR: 1319 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 13:54:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:50.51 | Aeyan | My old guild played on Darkspear |
| 21:50.52 | Mooz1 | then yea, find the author and say hey, fix dis |
| 21:50.52 | deltron | !c us uldum deltron |
| 21:50.53 | Aeyan | At least, last I heard |
| 21:50.54 | ThraeBot | deltron: Deltron, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/5/56). 7869 HP; 10671 Mana; 300 mana regen; 202 mp5; 9904 Armour; 4.32% melee crit; 45 spell crit; 211 +spell dmg; 1759 +heal; 4.32% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 794 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2act57 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35mja6 ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 13:55:00 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:50.56 | Krittick | He's a guildie who does comedy ignores every so often because he knows it spams me |
| 21:51.09 | Mooz1 | ah |
| 21:51.12 | deltron | !vs us darkspear aestil us uldum deltron |
| 21:51.14 | aestil | i think i have the spirit buff on right there. |
| 21:51.14 | Ellipsis | it's probably because he's a guildie then |
| 21:51.15 | ThraeBot | deltron: Aestil vs Deltron! A L70 priest and a L70 shaman square off!; 19/0/42 vs 0/5/56; Aestil wins by 575 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 21:51.19 | deltron | oh noes! |
| 21:51.23 | deltron | I lost :( |
| 21:51.26 | aestil | wtf |
| 21:51.28 | aestil | what was that? |
| 21:51.30 | deltron | lol |
| 21:51.32 | aestil | what are tbr? |
| 21:51.35 | deltron | ~tbr |
| 21:51.35 | purl | [tbr] ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 21:51.56 | aestil | deltron, i suck at the pvp. you win. |
| 21:51.58 | deltron | lol |
| 21:52.03 | Ellipsis | I find it amusing that I'm now winning TBR duels |
| 21:52.03 | deltron | you mana drained me, I lost :P |
| 21:52.13 | aestil | deltron, i don't have imp MB |
| 21:52.15 | Krittick | I'll give Cellular a try. |
| 21:52.15 | Ellipsis | even against people with much better gear |
| 21:52.19 | aestil | you will l2earthshock next time? |
| 21:52.23 | deltron | heh |
| 21:52.51 | aestil | !c us uldum rutrow |
| 21:52.53 | ThraeBot | aestil: Rutrow, Level 29 Dwarf Hunter (0/12/8). 1858 HP; 1155 Mana; 65 mana regen; 383 AP; 47.000 Melee DPS; 14.77% melee crit; 384 RAP; 69.90 Ranged DPS; 20.21% ranged crit; 17.50% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 523 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytjqs2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36yc2h ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 13:56:59 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:53.16 | aestil | !vs us uldum rutrow us uldum deltron |
| 21:53.17 | ThraeBot | aestil: Rutrow vs Deltron! Deltron has +41 lvls on Rutrow (29 vs 70); A L29 hunter and a L70 shaman square off!; 0/12/8 vs 0/5/56; Deltron wins by 653 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 21:53.31 | Krittick | okay the author of WIM knows about the bug apparently |
| 21:53.37 | Krittick | so I'll just wait for an update |
| 21:53.40 | deltron | lol |
| 21:53.40 | CIA-7 | 03pericles * r53681 10FuBar_IOPFu/: |
| 21:53.40 | CIA-7 | FuBar_IOPFu: |
| 21:53.40 | CIA-7 | - |
| 21:53.40 | CIA-7 | First proper commit with properties set etc. |
| 21:53.45 | deltron | aestil: that's not fair lol |
| 21:53.57 | aestil | give me a mid 30's character of yours. |
| 21:54.19 | Ozguli | eu hrthin, fastly leveled spriest gogo |
| 21:54.29 | aestil | !vs us uldum rutrow eu hrthin |
| 21:54.34 | Krittick | Has CyCircled fixed the bug with paging yet? I'm still using the rev from 10/04 and want to know if I can update |
| 21:54.41 | Ominous | nevcairiel: thanks! |
| 21:54.48 | Ellipsis | Krittick: CyCircled had bugs with paging? |
| 21:54.58 | Krittick | sec |
| 21:55.00 | aestil | Ozguli: need server name |
| 21:55.05 | Ozguli | ravenholdt |
| 21:55.14 | aestil | !vs us uldum rutrow eu ravenholdt hrthin |
| 21:55.16 | ThraeBot | aestil: Rutrow vs Hrthin! Hrthin has +10 lvls on Rutrow (29 vs 39); A L29 hunter and a L39 priest square off!; 0/12/8 vs 0/0/30; Rutrow wins by 121 TBRs! |
| 21:55.24 | aestil | :D |
| 21:55.24 | Ozguli | lol |
| 21:55.29 | Ellipsis | hax |
| 21:55.32 | Aeyan | Ellipsis, it did with Bongos2 for a while from a bad commit |
| 21:55.41 | Aeyan | And yeah, it's fixed now, Krittick |
| 21:55.46 | Ozguli | for sure, you'd die by my SW: pain at least :P |
| 21:55.50 | aestil | !vs us uldum rutrow us uldum doubledee |
| 21:55.51 | Ellipsis | huh, cool |
| 21:55.53 | ThraeBot | aestil: Rutrow vs Doubledee! Two 29 hunters square off!; 0/12/8 vs 2/0/18; Rutrow wins by 62 TBRs! |
| 21:56.02 | Ozguli | if I ever get close enough, that is... |
| 21:56.17 | Aeyan | No idea how they broke it |
| 21:56.19 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 21:56.23 | Aeyan | A feat in itself |
| 21:56.32 | Ellipsis | I love bugs like that |
| 21:56.42 | aestil | !vs us uldum rutrow us suramar stonedorc |
| 21:56.45 | ThraeBot | aestil: Rutrow vs Stonedorc! Stonedorc has +10 lvls on Rutrow (29 vs 39); Two hunters square off!; 0/12/8 vs 0/27/3; Stonedorc wins by 432 TBRs! |
| 21:56.50 | Ellipsis | when you finally track down the cause it's just plain impressive that you manged to break it the way you did |
| 21:56.54 | aestil | damn, stonedorc moved up |
| 21:57.01 | Ozguli | how's that calculated? |
| 21:57.04 | Aeyan | I never bothered to check it, I just reverted and waited a while |
| 21:57.13 | aestil | !vs us uldum rutrow us uldum birthinhips |
| 21:57.16 | ThraeBot | aestil: Rutrow vs Birthinhips! A L29 hunter and a L29 paladin square off!; 0/12/8 vs 9/11/0; Rutrow wins by 246 TBRs! |
| 21:57.20 | aestil | [birthinhips is my wife's pally twink] |
| 21:57.31 | Shirik|AFK | Ozguli: It's a logarithmic weighted average of several attributes which have been marked as "critical" for pvp |
| 21:57.36 | Ellipsis | that name is slightly disturbing |
| 21:57.37 | Ozguli | !vs eu ravenholdt ghiifk eu ravenholdt ardil |
| 21:57.37 | ThraeBot | Ozguli: ghiifk vs ardil! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? ghiifk's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 21:57.46 | Ozguli | lol |
| 21:57.48 | Ellipsis | Shirik|AFK: does it value spell penetration highly? |
| 21:57.53 | aestil | Ellipsis: human female model, you don't htink it fits? |
| 21:57.57 | Ozguli | what was that? |
| 21:57.59 | Shirik|AFK | I haven't looked at it in a while but I believe so yes |
| 21:58.00 | Ellipsis | aestil: you have a point |
| 21:58.05 | Ellipsis | ahh ty Shirik|AFK |
| 21:58.09 | Ellipsis | that explains why my TBR is so high |
| 21:58.09 | Shirik|AFK | it does depend on what classes are fighting, of course |
| 21:58.16 | Krittick | Ellipsis, a recent rev made it so when you used a modifier to page your action bars, CyCircled somehow made it so most of your buttons didn't change to reflect the new paging. The actual buttons changed, but the icons remained the same as the original page. |
| 21:58.25 | Ozguli | mmm. |
| 21:58.27 | Krittick | I just tested, and apparently they did fix it, yay |
| 21:58.31 | Ellipsis | huh, so it was locking spell icons? strange |
| 21:58.42 | Ozguli | can I use that bot by msg? |
| 21:58.43 | Ellipsis | that kinda worries me tbh |
| 21:58.46 | Ellipsis | yes Ozguli |
| 21:59.09 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx_ (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 21:59.33 | Ozguli | okay that bot is broken hardcore |
| 21:59.42 | Ozguli | Ghiifk vs Ardil! Two 70 rogues square off!; 16/45/0 vs 20/41/0; Ardil wins by 861 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 21:59.53 | Ellipsis | how is that broken? |
| 22:00.24 | Ozguli | because we have almost same specs and my (ghiifk) gear is better |
| 22:00.49 | Shirik|AFK | servers? |
| 22:00.52 | Ellipsis | it's supposed to be PvP oriented, and the formula isn't finished |
| 22:01.00 | Shirik|AFK | I want to do a debug lookup on it :) |
| 22:01.02 | Ozguli | also I can kill him during cheap+kidney shot stun time without taking dmg myself, so... |
| 22:01.54 | Shirik|AFK | Ozguli: What servers are they on? |
| 22:01.56 | Ozguli | that says hmm. 8 secods |
| 22:02.01 | Ozguli | ravenholdt-eu |
| 22:02.05 | Shirik|AFK | both? |
| 22:02.08 | Ozguli | yes |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-7 | 03pericles * r53682 10MBB/ (7 files): |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-7 | MBB: inital commit |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-7 | - Cleans up your minimap icons by putting them in a popup menu. Never lose a button under another one again. |
| 22:02.46 | Shirik|AFK | LOL |
| 22:02.57 | Shirik|AFK | oh |
| 22:02.58 | Shirik|AFK | I misread |
| 22:03.24 | Ellipsis | my total UI memory usage is 2MiB lower initially, and around 5MiB lower after being logged in for a while |
| 22:03.28 | Shirik|AFK | I think the HP weight is too high |
| 22:03.41 | Ozguli | must be... |
| 22:03.45 | Shirik|AFK | how much more HP does he have than you? |
| 22:03.49 | Shirik|AFK | he got almost 4000 points for that |
| 22:03.53 | Ozguli | search armory? |
| 22:03.56 | Shirik|AFK | lazy |
| 22:03.58 | Ozguli | I can't have logged out naked |
| 22:04.11 | Shirik|AFK | !co eu ravenholdt Ghiifk eu ravenholdt Ardil |
| 22:04.12 | ThraeBot | Shirik|AFK: Ghiifk vs Ardil! Two 70 rogues compare their stat differences; 16/45/0 vs 20/41/0; Ardil ++21 melee hit; Ardil ++10 nature resist; Ardil ++4.53% dodge; Ghiifk ++5.26% melee crit; Ghiifk ++11.800 Melee DPS; Ardil ++9 AP; Ghiifk ++39 Armour; Ghiifk ++10 arcane resist; Ghiifk ++16 resilience; Ghiifk ++840 HP; Ghiifk has 2% more stats then Ardil. |
| 22:04.28 | Shirik|AFK | yeah I think that hp weight is a bit high |
| 22:04.42 | Shirik|AFK | wait |
| 22:04.45 | Shirik|AFK | you have more hp than him |
| 22:04.46 | Ozguli | I have more hp than he |
| 22:04.53 | Shirik|AFK | it said that was character 1 |
| 22:04.53 | Shirik|AFK | wtf |
| 22:05.03 | ag` | how do I lookup one char? |
| 22:05.06 | Shirik|AFK | Char1: HP +606 points |
| 22:05.16 | Shirik|AFK | Char2: HP +3605 points |
| 22:05.33 | Aeyan | Use !c [us/eu] [server] [name] |
| 22:05.35 | Shirik|AFK | omg does he have the numbers backwards? |
| 22:05.39 | Shirik|AFK | That would explain so much >< |
| 22:05.41 | Zariel | how do you use GetItemInfo() to parse the ItemLink and return the first value,local iname = select(1, GetItemInfo(_ or "_" or "_" or "item")) |
| 22:05.43 | Ellipsis | looks like some fail there |
| 22:06.00 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion tokrim |
| 22:06.02 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Tokrim, Level 70 Orc Warlock (42/0/19). 8780 HP; 7465 Mana; 109 mana regen; 67 spell crit; 158 spell hit; 869 +spell dmg; 233 frost dmg (1102); 368 shadow dmg (1237); 4.24% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 935 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9o3f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37je8e ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 14:10:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:06.08 | CIA-7 | 03pericles * r53683 10MBB/: |
| 22:06.08 | CIA-7 | MBB: |
| 22:06.08 | CIA-7 | - |
| 22:06.08 | CIA-7 | First commit after setting auto properties files. |
| 22:06.09 | Shirik|AFK | Yeah I'll bring that up to Thrae |
| 22:06.11 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx_ (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:06.11 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion fleshtaker |
| 22:06.13 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Fleshtaker, Level 70 Undead Priest (14/0/47). 7861 HP; 7530 Mana; 164 mana regen; 30 mp5; 131 spell crit; 132 spell hit; 988 +spell dmg/heal; 111 frost dmg (1099); 213 shadow dmg (1201); 4.90% dodge; 29 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1388 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bwfev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mjkxa ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 14:10:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:06.14 | Shirik|AFK | I think he got one of the vars backwards |
| 22:06.40 | ag` | !c eu kazzak giustiniano |
| 22:06.43 | ThraeBot | ag`: Giustiniano, Level 70 Human Priest (27/34/0). 11031 HP; 8715 Mana; 151 mana regen; 11 mp5; 39 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 353 +spell dmg; 1075 +heal; 4.98% dodge; 467 resilience;[[ TBR: 1028 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gvn42 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2m8pd8 ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 14:10:49 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:06.51 | Shirik|AFK | !c us drenden kimina |
| 22:06.52 | Arrowmaster | tell him that the last updated is broken too |
| 22:06.52 | ThraeBot | Shirik|AFK: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 7131 HP; 9705 Mana; 418 mana regen; 167 mp5; 135 +spell dmg; 1476 +heal; 5.66% dodge;[[ TBR: 679 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 10:20:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:06.54 | Shirik|AFK | so there!! |
| 22:07.13 | Shirik|AFK | me > all y'all |
| 22:07.20 | ag` | I own the resi meters here |
| 22:07.28 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|AFK: tell him that the last updated is broken too, my armory hasnt updated since oct 4th |
| 22:07.37 | Shirik|AFK | I thought he fixed that a wihle ago |
| 22:07.38 | Ozguli | I've logged out in my cool looking gear |
| 22:07.38 | Shirik|AFK | ok |
| 22:07.46 | Ozguli | explains some of the stats... |
| 22:07.56 | Arrowmaster | how is he getting the last updated date? |
| 22:07.56 | Shirik|AFK | well mine's been updating |
| 22:08.00 | Arrowmaster | http headers? |
| 22:08.00 | Shirik|AFK | I didn't have those stats yesterday |
| 22:08.11 | Shirik|AFK | internal cache |
| 22:08.16 | Shirik|AFK | it should retry every 3 minutes |
| 22:08.22 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 22:08.39 | Arrowmaster | so thats the last date that it pulled form the armory? and not the last updated date from the armory? |
| 22:08.41 | Krittick | wow, Cellular certainly is lacking in the features department |
| 22:08.43 | Shirik|AFK | right |
| 22:08.44 | Krittick | but eh, it works |
| 22:08.53 | Arrowmaster | ok nvm makes sense now |
| 22:10.34 | Keias | Thats what I love about Cellular |
| 22:13.52 | Zariel | how do you use GetItemInfo() to parse the ItemLink and return the first value, local iname = select(1, GetItemInfo(_ or "_" or "_" or "item")) where item is the itemlink |
| 22:14.11 | Zariel | basically im trying to convert an item link into an item name |
| 22:15.16 | Arrowmaster | this is weird, im using azureus to get the new background downloader patch and it people using the blizzard downloader wont stay connected to me |
| 22:15.47 | Arrowmaster | Zariel: local iname = GetItemInfo(item) |
| 22:16.01 | Zariel | danke |
| 22:16.03 | Pericles | local itemName, _, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType = GetItemInfo(slotLink) |
| 22:16.20 | backbone87 | lua> function f(t) table.insert(t, " to") table.insert(t, nil) table.insert(t, " test") end print(table.concat(f({ "something" }))) |
| 22:16.21 | cladbot | backbone87: [string "function f(t) table.insert(t, " to") table...."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'concat' (table expected, got no value) |
| 22:16.28 | *** join/#wowace chexsum (n=chexsum@CPE-58-169-164-179.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 22:16.35 | backbone87 | lua> function f(t) table.insert(t, " to") table.insert(t, nil) table.insert(t, " test") return t end print(table.concat(f({ "something" }))) |
| 22:16.35 | cladbot | backbone87: something to test |
| 22:16.52 | Aeyan | I haven't used Azureus in a long time, but I've never had any trouble connecting to blizzer peers with my client |
| 22:17.05 | Grum | ZOMG! We nailed Vashj!!! |
| 22:17.12 | Aeyan | Congrats |
| 22:17.13 | Grum | teh biatch is no more \o/ |
| 22:17.25 | Chompers | how long did it take? |
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| 22:17.33 | Chompers | from your first attempt |
| 22:18.10 | Pericles | hmmm starting wow says it will background download patch when I exit - is tonight the first time background patch is up? |
| 22:18.37 | Pericles | ie: background download of 235Mb file for patch 2.3 |
| 22:19.05 | Grum | lol 60 tries |
| 22:19.07 | Grum | enve more |
| 22:19.13 | Grum | but we also had ~45 people on it |
| 22:19.22 | Grum | but in the end about 4-5 dedicated evenings |
| 22:19.30 | Grum | with a group of ~32 people |
| 22:19.37 | Grum | got in phase3 7-8 times |
| 22:20.14 | Chompers | many times a week then? |
| 22:20.29 | Grum | max 2 days |
| 22:20.30 | Chompers | oops, i missed what you just typed |
| 22:20.38 | Grum | was kinda spread thin |
| 22:20.46 | Grum | so took bit longer |
| 22:21.04 | Grum | but we did a 20% on the first try, 8% on second and 0 on 4th now :) |
| 22:21.31 | Chompers | awesome |
| 22:21.45 | Zariel | why cant you concate a nil value to just print nil =/ |
| 22:22.03 | Moozh | there's nothing to print? |
| 22:22.35 | Ellipsis | because nil can't be concatenated? :P |
| 22:22.54 | Zariel | and it as soon as it finds a nil value it has a paddy and just stops the for |
| 22:22.56 | Zariel | .. |
| 22:23.05 | Keias | grats Grum |
| 22:23.06 | Keias | What loots? |
| 22:23.07 | Pericles | nil is unknown value is its NOT an empty string so you cannot concat it |
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| 22:23.34 | Chompers | just kael then Grum |
| 22:23.37 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53684 10ag_UnitFrames/ (14 files in 13 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: ace3 branch: moved options back to core addon |
| 22:23.41 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:23.45 | Chompers | then lots of easy lewtz |
| 22:23.47 | Grum | we got 3/4 TK already |
| 22:24.01 | Grum | so just going to headbash Kael for 2 weeks :) |
| 22:24.09 | Ellipsis | sounds...exciting |
| 22:24.31 | Chompers | we've got 3/4 tk too, i keep suggesting we have a look at kael |
| 22:24.42 | Chompers | but people loot at me like i'm crazy |
| 22:25.00 | Antiarc | Kael is hard and completely worth it |
| 22:25.11 | Chompers | it looks interesting, we'd die so fast |
| 22:25.28 | Chompers | but i could say i hit him with my sword :) |
| 22:25.32 | Antiarc | It's mostly just about learning the fight and learning to handle the transitions |
| 22:26.53 | Chompers | the guilds on my server that've killed kael/vash spent months on them, then cleared BT in next to no time at all |
| 22:27.16 | Chompers | one week they're in t5, next week they're all geared up in t6 |
| 22:27.25 | Chompers | crazy |
| 22:27.30 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:27.40 | Grum | first 5-7 bosses in T6 are lootpinatas |
| 22:27.55 | Grum | at least from what i've been told and have heard around |
| 22:28.09 | Grum | ah well .. i think we did quite an accomplishment with a large team and only 3hr raidnights :D |
| 22:28.12 | Chompers | if only they'd let me tag along |
| 22:28.22 | Chompers | i'm sure i'd find a use for the spare gear tokens |
| 22:28.25 | Grum | we cleared SSC in ~5.5hrs now |
| 22:28.32 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53685 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 22:28.32 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 22:28.32 | CIA-7 | - some more tweaks |
| 22:28.32 | CIA-7 | - SVs dont support tables as keys, so we wont either |
| 22:29.08 | Chompers | only 5 hours to kill hydross, woop |
| 22:29.13 | Chompers | us > you |
| 22:29.39 | Grum | :) |
| 22:30.50 | Grum | hehe the first 75mins of that fullclear we spend wiping O.o |
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| 22:33.09 | Antiarc | They aren't loot pinatas, but they're easy bosses |
| 22:33.43 | Antiarc | There's "easy" and there's "void reaver". Supremus is kinda Void Reaver, Akama can be Void Reaver if your add tanks are good, but Najentus will take a few hours to learn |
| 22:34.02 | Antiarc | Rage Winterchill is "everyone equip your PVP trinkets and we get epix" |
| 22:34.23 | Ellipsis | oh my god |
| 22:34.30 | Ellipsis | I need a guild with people who aren't clueless |
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| 22:34.53 | Ellipsis | this guy is talking about how warrior tanks can't continue generating threat fast enough in long fights |
| 22:35.12 | Grum | he is right |
| 22:35.16 | Ellipsis | "that's why long fights like vael, tanks die, u go through 3" |
| 22:35.27 | Grum | lol |
| 22:35.30 | Grum | that is stupid :P |
| 22:35.31 | Ellipsis | "or chromaggus the DPS goes in and out of the fight, so they generate less threat" |
| 22:35.35 | Grum | l2bringpaladins |
| 22:35.40 | Ellipsis | clearly this guy has never been to BWL |
| 22:35.45 | Ellipsis | just seen videos |
| 22:35.57 | Antiarc | That's pretty ignorant. |
| 22:36.11 | Ellipsis | someone pointed out that vael tanks don't die because they lose aggro, they die because they get blown up |
| 22:36.13 | Ellipsis | his response was |
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| 22:36.22 | Ellipsis | "but if they didn't get blown up they would lose aggro" |
| 22:36.23 | Ellipsis | .... |
| 22:36.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 22:36.34 | Antiarc | lulz. |
| 22:36.41 | Antiarc | Well |
| 22:36.47 | Antiarc | We all know that Vael is a long fight, rite? |
| 22:36.51 | Ellipsis | I have yet to see a tank ever die due to someone pulling aggro off of him |
| 22:37.05 | Arrowmaster | unless youve got BA its like impossible to pull aggro on vael except on tank tansitions |
| 22:37.07 | Chompers | how long? |
| 22:37.07 | a-stray-cat | Vael was horribly long |
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| 22:37.11 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 22:37.14 | a-stray-cat | because we kept dying over, and over, and over! |
| 22:37.15 | Antiarc | Rogues can pull aggro there easily |
| 22:37.20 | Antiarc | But they have vanish, so it's all good. |
| 22:37.25 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: can happen on prince |
| 22:37.48 | Antiarc | 1 second GCD + infinite energy + backstab is a recipe for approximately 1 billion TPS :P |
| 22:37.58 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: we're not talking about boss specific mechanics |
| 22:38.01 | Arrowmaster | my friend macroed the vael fight |
| 22:38.16 | Ellipsis | this conversation was supposed to be this guy theorycrafting about different classes' threat generation over time |
| 22:38.33 | Ellipsis | his points are correct, but his logic is bass-ackwards |
| 22:38.46 | Chompers | you get infinite energy in the fight? |
| 22:39.02 | Antiarc | Effectively, yes |
| 22:39.06 | Chompers | sounds like fun, same for warriors i hope? |
| 22:39.12 | Antiarc | Infinite rage, yes |
| 22:39.16 | NightHawkAtWork | same for everyone |
| 22:39.17 | Antiarc | And casters get infinite mana |
| 22:39.21 | Arrowmaster | had this really huge macro that did all his rogue shit just for vael including checking if UnitIsUnit("player","targettarget") and if targettarget had BA and would vanish on both of them |
| 22:39.33 | Chompers | i guess it's not a race fight then |
| 22:39.35 | Antiarc | But rogues use it the most because their GCD is only 1 sec, compared to 1.5 sec for everyone else (except cat druids) |
| 22:39.40 | hyperChipmunk | it is |
| 22:39.41 | Antiarc | Vael is very much a race |
| 22:39.48 | Antiarc | He blows up random raid members periodically |
| 22:39.49 | hyperChipmunk | because every few seconds, someone asplodinates |
| 22:39.52 | NightHawkAtWork | he dies, or your tanks blow up. >.> |
| 22:39.56 | Antiarc | You have to kill him before your raid is dead |
| 22:40.00 | Chompers | oh |
| 22:40.02 | Arrowmaster | thought warriors had 1sec gcd too |
| 22:40.06 | Keias | Tanking Vael sucked |
| 22:40.07 | Antiarc | No, warriors have a 1.5 |
| 22:40.14 | Ellipsis | everyone has 1.5 except kitties and rogues |
| 22:40.22 | Keias | Cause if you were MT, thats certain repair bills :( |
| 22:40.28 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 22:40.31 | Chompers | that fight sounds pretty bad |
| 22:40.35 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=23513 |
| 22:40.36 | Ellipsis | it was fun |
| 22:40.39 | Antiarc | Dying to BA or whatnot didn't incur durability hits |
| 22:40.40 | Antiarc | IIRC |
| 22:40.44 | Ellipsis | "mana conservation? what's that?" |
| 22:40.45 | NightHawkAtWork | it was a great fight |
| 22:40.52 | hyperChipmunk | because it's a self-kill |
| 22:40.53 | Grum | whooooooo *me does happy dance* |
| 22:40.56 | Antiarc | Right |
| 22:41.06 | Arrowmaster | pvp kill |
| 22:41.42 | Antiarc | Firemaw can go choke on a dong, though. |
| 22:41.44 | Pkekyo | is there any way I can clear info in a specific chat window? |
| 22:42.01 | Ellipsis | /script ChatFrame1:Clear() |
| 22:42.04 | Arrowmaster | i hated firemaw without my pocket druid |
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| 22:42.24 | Brunera | is there a command to loot a specific target? |
| 22:42.27 | Ellipsis | no |
| 22:42.29 | Antiarc | Firemaw cockblocked us far, far longer than anything else in BWL |
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| 22:42.52 | Arrowmaster | we cleared bwl start to finish in 2 months |
| 22:43.05 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: thanks, worked wonders! |
| 22:43.13 | Ellipsis | anytime :) |
| 22:45.45 | Chompers | the core stuff looks like fun |
| 22:45.57 | Antiarc | What Molten Core? |
| 22:45.58 | Chompers | that's why i keep seeing people with those yell macros |
| 22:46.03 | Chompers | vashj fight |
| 22:46.07 | Antiarc | Oh, right |
| 22:46.13 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's a nice change |
| 22:46.29 | Chompers | MC...fun? madness! |
| 22:46.46 | Arrowmaster | only thing i have against that fight is that its the reason they nerfed loot threshold |
| 22:47.36 | Arrowmaster | i got annoyed with the macros |
| 22:47.56 | Arrowmaster | #showtooltip/use Tainted Core/script if GetItemCount("31088") == 1 then SendChatMessage("THROWING TAINTED CORE TO: "..UnitName("target").." !!!", "YELL") SendChatMessage("<<< YOU HAVE THE CORE >>>", "WHISPER", nil, UnitName("target")) end |
| 22:47.58 | Arrowmaster | so i made that |
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| 22:50.45 | Pkekyo | rabbit, ammo or adirelle around? |
| 22:51.02 | vhaarr | just ask |
| 22:51.17 | Chompers | stolen Arrowmaster, one day i'll use it |
| 22:52.03 | Pkekyo | wondering if there's a /script command or something I can run to reset damage dun meters on Violation? |
| 22:52.06 | CIA-7 | 03ominous 07Ace3 * r53686 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: Profiles now work 100% |
| 22:52.07 | Arrowmaster | one of our officers stole it and ninja edited the post on our forums to have mine instead of the common ones seen around |
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| 22:53.06 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: /violation reset now |
| 22:53.10 | Antiarc | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex126.xml |
| 22:53.30 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.13 | Pkekyo | soeh...this'd be the macro? |
| 22:54.13 | Pkekyo | /script ChatFrame3:Clear() |
| 22:54.13 | Pkekyo | /script Violation:GetModule("Damage done"):Reset() |
| 22:56.27 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: just out of curiosity, what is this for? o.O |
| 22:57.52 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: some experimentation with the Slam ability during evocation phase of curator...gonna see how it compares to the use of other abilities (for maximized DPS) |
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| 22:58.17 | Pkekyo | been getting great results with slam lately, and I'm suspecting it might even come close to the famous execute spam |
| 22:58.32 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53687 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: fix a yell |
| 22:58.46 | Zhinjio | good evening, folks. |
| 22:58.48 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: that macro does not work if you don't have the core, right? |
| 22:58.58 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:00.09 | Stanzilla | well I just tried it and it spammed my guild channel :D |
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| 23:02.32 | buu | Stanzilla: You did it wrong! |
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| 23:02.56 | Stanzilla | buu: o rly? |
| 23:03.06 | buu | Yes! |
| 23:03.17 | Stanzilla | buu: what do I have to do it right? |
| 23:03.30 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 23:03.34 | buu | Dunno, I don't know what you did wrong. |
| 23:03.40 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 23:03.40 | Ellipsis | I just can't figure out where to put these talent points now :( |
| 23:04.29 | buu | Ellipsis: Drain life |
| 23:04.42 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 23:04.45 | buu | =] |
| 23:04.51 | Ellipsis | you're no help |
| 23:05.02 | buu | Get healthstone, imp imp, and if nothing else dump them in to devestation |
| 23:05.06 | durcyn | Ellipsis: which talent points. |
| 23:05.06 | buu | devastation |
| 23:05.34 | Ellipsis | durcyn: I just got hit capped via gear, so I'm taking my 3 points out of suppression |
| 23:05.35 | buu | The three she removed from suppression! |
| 23:05.36 | durcyn | and skip imp imp, total crap that talent |
| 23:05.38 | buu | Damn. |
| 23:05.45 | buu | durcyn: You don't have a lot of other useful options. |
| 23:05.46 | Ellipsis | need to find a spot for one of them in aff (for UA) and the other two can go anywhere |
| 23:05.54 | durcyn | i'd consider fel conc and intensity at that point |
| 23:05.56 | buu | I'll take 21 stam over some of the other stuff. |
| 23:06.19 | Ellipsis | I *have* fel conc |
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| 23:06.40 | Ellipsis | I guess CoEx and Intensity... |
| 23:06.46 | buu | Coex is great. |
| 23:06.54 | Ellipsis | I just have no use for it, short of fear kiting |
| 23:07.04 | buu | Well, it's nice to have the option. |
| 23:07.05 | durcyn | it's useful for kael and illidan, at least. |
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| 23:07.14 | Ellipsis | buu: but it's also one more button to find :( |
| 23:07.20 | buu | Ellipsis: C-x |
| 23:07.28 | Ellipsis | durcyn: I'm lucky if I get into a kara raid |
| 23:07.35 | Ellipsis | TK/BT are not concerns for me |
| 23:07.36 | buu | I use it in kara occasionally |
| 23:07.39 | durcyn | Ellipsis: consider something like http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Durcyn |
| 23:07.48 | buu | Kiting moroes' adds |
| 23:08.22 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: what server are you on? |
| 23:08.23 | Godzmack | no 1/5 shadow embrace durcyn ? |
| 23:08.40 | Ellipsis | durcyn: yeah that's pretty much what I have, swap Malediction for iHoT and 1pt shadow embrace |
| 23:08.44 | durcyn | Godzmack: nah, needed fel conc and intensity for ROS last time i respecced |
| 23:08.58 | Ellipsis | and the imp HS point for the last devastation |
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| 23:09.16 | Funkeh` | Has UNIT_AURA been nerfed to only return the unit and nothing else? |
| 23:09.33 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: it never returned anything else afaik |
| 23:10.17 | dylanm | Funkeh`: You're imagining a nice API that's never been there. |
| 23:10.46 | Arrowmaster | god damnit |
| 23:10.59 | Arrowmaster | some fucker reverted my edit of the UNIT_AURA wowwiki page |
| 23:11.45 | Ellipsis | buu/durcyn: thoughts? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMriRfzVtboZxx0tr |
| 23:11.54 | Ellipsis | it's solid, but it just doesn't feel right to me :( |
| 23:12.12 | Funkeh` | dylanm, lol |
| 23:12.17 | durcyn | Ellipsis: looks good to me |
| 23:12.18 | buu | Ellipsis: imp coa makes me cry. |
| 23:12.27 | Ellipsis | and if it turns out the shadow embrace point still works in 2.3, I'd rather take that than imp coa |
| 23:12.36 | Ellipsis | buu: me too, but it's better than CoEx |
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| 23:12.40 | durcyn | imp coa isn't thaaat bad |
| 23:12.44 | Ellipsis | I use CoA a lot more than I'd use CoEx :P |
| 23:12.45 | buu | Ellipsis: Not really =[ |
| 23:13.02 | Ellipsis | buu: as a personal playstyle thing |
| 23:13.45 | buu | Ellipsis: |
| 23:14.00 | buu | Well, I tend to look at it from a raidish perspective. |
| 23:14.08 | Ellipsis | I'm not raidish :( |
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| 23:14.27 | Ellipsis | it's hard to describe what I do - a lot of soloing, some 5man/heroics, and once in a blue moon I get into a raid |
| 23:14.42 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: were you a loladin or a protwarr? |
| 23:14.50 | Ellipsis | but I'm comfortable with my kiting abilities now, I don't feel a need for CoEx |
| 23:14.58 | buu | Ellipsis: Warlock talents need to suck less =[ |
| 23:14.59 | Ellipsis | and if I took it, I'm scared I would get too reliant on it |
| 23:15.07 | Ellipsis | like I am on iHoT |
| 23:15.18 | Aeyan | Warlock talents are pretty bitchin' |
| 23:15.19 | Ellipsis | I will cry when I have to spec out of aff |
| 23:15.26 | aestil | have to? |
| 23:15.28 | Aeyan | At least yours don't get nerfed every patch or two =P |
| 23:15.31 | aestil | no one will make you do such a thing. |
| 23:15.44 | Zhinjio | pkekyo: sorry? |
| 23:15.46 | Ellipsis | aestil: I follow the DPS :( |
| 23:15.48 | Zhinjio | pally tank |
| 23:15.49 | buu | Ellipsis: If you're going solo/5 mans, I'd drop 5-8 in demonology |
| 23:15.57 | Ellipsis | buu yeah but...sigh |
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| 23:16.07 | Ellipsis | what the heck am I gonna drop? |
| 23:16.08 | buu | Ellipsis: For pure solo/farm type endeavours I'd probably go 41/19/0 |
| 23:16.14 | buu | Ellipsis: The top tiers in destro. |
| 23:16.18 | Ellipsis | I can't live without my destructive reach!!!! |
| 23:16.21 | buu | Uh |
| 23:16.23 | buu | Why? |
| 23:16.30 | Ellipsis | because I like outranging things? :( |
| 23:16.38 | buu | Um. Like what? |
| 23:16.43 | Ellipsis | and like I said, I'm not *pure* solo |
| 23:16.48 | Ellipsis | I'm *trying* to raid |
| 23:17.02 | buu | Every thing beyond 10 points is pretty marginal in destro honestly. |
| 23:17.13 | Ellipsis | if I take a significant dps hit in raid environments, I'm less likely to get invited back |
| 23:17.13 | aestil | what does more dmg? |
| 23:17.14 | buu | In raids there's really a very small number of times you get spell pushback |
| 23:17.16 | aestil | demonology? |
| 23:17.23 | Ellipsis | buu: intensity is definitely filler |
| 23:17.28 | buu | aestil: Naw, demonology is pure survability. |
| 23:17.29 | Ellipsis | it's "hm, two points, what can I do that doesn't suck" |
| 23:17.42 | aestil | destruction can't be better than afflic for raiding. |
| 23:17.45 | buu | Ellipsis: And even 5% of crit in devastation is fairly meh. |
| 23:17.45 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.45 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.45 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.45 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.45 | Pkekyo | exactly what would this macro do? |
| 23:17.53 | aestil | my locks swear up and down that incernate is a fail spec. |
| 23:18.00 | Ellipsis | aestil: at some gear level, shadow dest takes over aff |
| 23:18.04 | buu | aestil: It is. |
| 23:18.12 | Ellipsis | fire locks are made of more fail than our president |
| 23:18.13 | buu | aestil: Especially with spriests. |
| 23:18.26 | aestil | here's my take on that |
| 23:18.31 | aestil | this is just my personal take. |
| 23:18.35 | buu | "HAI GUYS I'M SPECCING 21/40 WHAT CAST ROTATION SHOULD I USE' |
| 23:18.39 | aestil | i'd rather have a afflication lock on most encounters. |
| 23:18.43 | buu | They will BURN. |
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| 23:19.03 | aestil | too much movement, and 'heads upness' is needed in the encounters we've been doing. |
| 23:19.06 | aestil | DoT's win. |
| 23:19.11 | buu | aestil: Eh, what? |
| 23:19.12 | aestil | an 'extra' dot wins. |
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| 23:19.36 | buu | aestil: The only cases where that's possible true is situations where you ever have prolonged (18 |
| 23:19.39 | aestil | i feel like relying on more SB spam will mean less damage in practice. |
| 23:19.45 | buu | 18+ seconds of no casting |
| 23:19.45 | Ellipsis | I do love my mobility |
| 23:19.54 | buu | Or you can only cast for 1.5 seconds or some such. |
| 23:19.56 | aestil | but buu, i'm not saying. |
| 23:20.04 | buu | Which I've yet to see an encounter like that. |
| 23:20.23 | aestil | i'm not saying to 'not' cast SB, obviously our locks do, and they are like i dunno. pretty decent i guess. |
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| 23:20.39 | buu | aestil: Here's the thing. Aff lock and destro lock. We're in a very mobile fight. We're running around. We both get to stop for 2.5 sceonds to cast spells. |
| 23:20.46 | buu | aestil: The afflock throws corruptiona nd ua |
| 23:20.51 | buu | They each do about 3k damage. |
| 23:20.55 | buu | Over 18 seconds. |
| 23:20.59 | Krittick | Hey, is there an addon that shows the time until the next tick of energy? |
| 23:21.00 | buu | I throw a shadowbolt. It does 6k damage. |
| 23:21.02 | aestil | curroption only does 3k dmg? |
| 23:21.06 | Krittick | for druids |
| 23:21.09 | buu | aestil: Yeah. |
| 23:21.19 | aestil | how does my SW:P do like 6k during raid? |
| 23:21.26 | buu | Well |
| 23:21.29 | Chompers | i'd imagine pitbull has that |
| 23:21.32 | buu | If you have all the talents.. |
| 23:21.33 | Chompers | bit overkill though |
| 23:21.44 | aestil | what i'm saying is, affliction lock has dots going on thaldred, and so does destro lock. |
| 23:21.52 | buu | He fucking shouldn't. |
| 23:21.54 | Krittick | :/ I don't use Pitbull for anything other than party frames :( |
| 23:21.55 | Ellipsis | Krittick: there are a few energy meters, check out the rogue addons section of the wiki |
| 23:22.06 | aestil | buu.... wha? |
| 23:22.18 | buu | aestil: SW:P lasts 3 more seconds or something, among other things. |
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| 23:22.29 | NeoTron | aestil: incinerate is a failed spec |
| 23:22.42 | NeoTron | only reason to use incinerate if is you lack pointsin destruction to make SB a 2.5s cast |
| 23:22.45 | aestil | NeoTron: i agree. |
| 23:22.53 | buu | aestil: Anyway, corruption: 900 base + 126% * spell damage + 105% + 110% + spriest buffs. |
| 23:23.10 | aestil | SW:P is a 24 sec dot. |
| 23:23.12 | Ellipsis | and if you don't have 5 points in destruction, then what the heck are you doing playing a destro style |
| 23:23.24 | NeoTron | buu: hey using dots as destro spec isn't necessarily bad |
| 23:23.32 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: 10 points actually :P |
| 23:23.40 | buu | NeoTron: Yeeeeeees it is. |
| 23:23.42 | Ellipsis | NeoTron, er well I meant the 5pt requirement |
| 23:23.45 | Ellipsis | but yeah |
| 23:23.49 | Ellipsis | 10 points then |
| 23:23.52 | aestil | buu, on thaladred, if you don't dot, you fail. |
| 23:23.54 | buu | NeoTron: Aside from cod obviously. |
| 23:23.55 | Ellipsis | either way it takes more than that to make fire viable |
| 23:23.56 | buu | aestil: Uh, why? |
| 23:24.06 | Krittick | Thanks Ellipsis |
| 23:24.09 | NeoTron | buu: check damage per cast time sometime |
| 23:24.11 | aestil | cause you will sometimes be running around for extended periods of time. |
| 23:24.17 | aestil | and if you dont dot, your dmg is 0. |
| 23:24.44 | buu | NeoTron: If your dots, with 40 points in destro are doing more damage than your sbolts, you need to not be 40 points in destro. |
| 23:24.56 | buu | aestil: Bah. |
| 23:24.57 | aestil | they amp doom on him as well i belive. |
| 23:25.11 | aestil | and i'm talking about affliction locks. |
| 23:25.13 | buu | aestil: The only instant cast dot you have as a destro lock is coa/cod |
| 23:25.29 | buu | And if you can cast corruption/immo you might as well cast sbolt. |
| 23:25.30 | Ellipsis | god forbid you drop a few points in imp corr |
| 23:25.37 | buu | Ellipsis: Not worth it. |
| 23:25.40 | aestil | i'm specificcally saying one reason why affliction locks > than destro, is because of greater dot power. |
| 23:25.44 | aestil | thats all i'm saying. |
| 23:25.59 | buu | aestil: Destro locks have like zero dot power. It's not much of an argument. |
| 23:26.09 | aestil | but thats is my argument. |
| 23:26.12 | buu | Ellipsis: The problem is, you need 35 points to get to SnF and you only have 40 poitns total. |
| 23:26.20 | aestil | i think destro is a bit to 'stand in place and spam' for some encounters. |
| 23:26.30 | Ellipsis | on a fight where you're literally dancing the whole time, destro locks will suck just like a mage will |
| 23:26.31 | buu | aestil: I seriously doubt it, but I suppose it's possible. |
| 23:26.38 | buu | But when the hell does that happen? |
| 23:26.45 | durcyn | eh, if you can't stand in place for at least 1.5 sec, there's no point of being there |
| 23:26.51 | buu | Yeah. |
| 23:27.18 | aestil | affliction has 2 instant cast dots. |
| 23:27.30 | buu | I mean, if you're only doing instant cast, you have SL, CoA, Corruption |
| 23:27.36 | aestil | yes. |
| 23:27.38 | durcyn | that do about 150 dps each |
| 23:27.39 | buu | Not exactly amazing damage. |
| 23:27.46 | buu | Heh, SL is like 30 dps. |
| 23:27.46 | Krittick | Hrm, not seeing any energy timers :( |
| 23:27.52 | durcyn | and if all you're contributing to a raid is 300 dps, then you're utterly useless |
| 23:28.00 | aestil | the reality is, if there is ever a time, where you will not be able to cast for more than 1.5 seconds, then in those situations dot was better. |
| 23:28.06 | buu | aestil: Even for a full afflock, 30-50% of their dps is sbolt spam. |
| 23:28.08 | Chompers | i do 300dps! |
| 23:28.10 | Chompers | oh... |
| 23:28.31 | buu | aestil: But those situations are so vanishingly rare they aren't worth talking about. |
| 23:28.31 | Krittick | Hrm, would it be possible to add a timer in Quartz, similar to the autoattack timer, but for energy ticks? |
| 23:28.39 | aestil | yeah i know, and i love when those bolts crit during my MF :) |
| 23:28.54 | buu | aestil: See? And destro locks spend more time bolting, so more Imp SB. |
| 23:28.59 | buu | Win-win. |
| 23:29.12 | aestil | i'm pretty sure my lock's aren't at that gear level. |
| 23:29.19 | aestil | i have one who is in love with demonology |
| 23:29.28 | buu | Dunno, I didn't think I was either, until I actually tried it. |
| 23:29.28 | aestil | !c us darkspear kirae |
| 23:29.31 | ThraeBot | aestil: Kirae, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/2/18). 10990 HP; 9625 Mana; 141 mana regen; 178 spell crit; 201 spell hit; 937 +spell dmg/heal; 110 shadow dmg (1047); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 1071 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hp5xo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dys5n ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 15:33:37 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:29.44 | buu | aestil: I might try felguarding people in the face when I get 2/5 t5. |
| 23:30.18 | aestil | i have 1 lock at 4/5 T5 |
| 23:30.18 | buu | =[ |
| 23:30.18 | Pkekyo | is there a way to hide a chat window? |
| 23:30.39 | buu | aestil: But I have like, 1100 shadow damage and 11% base crit or something silly, I went out to drboom and did like 850 as affliction and 950 as shadow destro. |
| 23:30.46 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.50 | buu | aestil: On al'ar my dps went up like 300 |
| 23:31.03 | buu | aestil: I really want to try 40/21 =[ |
| 23:31.07 | buu | BUT I NEED MY GODDAMN TIER5. |
| 23:31.13 | Pkekyo | durcyn: that permanent? |
| 23:31.20 | durcyn | Pkekyo: no idea. |
| 23:31.26 | aestil | dr. boom is a nice theoretical static check of your max possible dps in a perfect situation. |
| 23:31.33 | buu | So is al'ar ^_^ |
| 23:31.38 | aestil | P1 is. |
| 23:31.41 | aestil | P2 is not. |
| 23:31.42 | buu | Yeah |
| 23:31.46 | buu | What I meant. |
| 23:31.49 | aestil | your dots tick while Al'ar is in the air. |
| 23:32.03 | aestil | your dot the embers when they spawn after he lands. |
| 23:32.05 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: not particularly permanent, no...they tend to re-show themselves a lot |
| 23:32.18 | buu | aestil: I can shadowbotl al'ar while he's in the air. |
| 23:32.20 | aestil | buu, did you know chatnoir. |
| 23:32.26 | buu | aestil: I don't think so. |
| 23:32.30 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: so I've got to just simply remove it? |
| 23:32.31 | aestil | buu, durin meteor |
| 23:32.47 | buu | aestil: He takes zero damage during the actual meteor though. |
| 23:32.50 | buu | So it doesn't matter. |
| 23:32.53 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: if you want to get rid of it, that's probably your best bet |
| 23:33.21 | Ellipsis | although with a slight modification you can make a macro that will keep it hidden pretty well |
| 23:33.24 | aestil | well, i don't care too much overall, lock dmg in meters is largely dependent on who gets CoS and who gets CoA |
| 23:33.28 | Pkekyo | hmm....even though I removed the chatframe, the tab is still showing? |
| 23:33.44 | buu | aestil: CoA is like, 110 dps |
| 23:33.49 | buu | I easily lead raids by that much |
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| 23:33.58 | buu | At least on some fights =[ |
| 23:34.08 | aestil | what guild is buu in? |
| 23:34.08 | buu | VR is cheating. |
| 23:34.17 | aestil | VR is cheating? |
| 23:34.27 | buu | Yeah, he's all melee dps |
| 23:34.32 | buu | (Until they get squished) |
| 23:34.39 | buu | aestil: Pandora! |
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| 23:35.03 | aestil | ah. |
| 23:35.05 | Arrowmaster | 110dps? |
| 23:35.16 | Pkekyo | anyone got any idea why I can't remove the chatframe top tab? |
| 23:35.17 | buu | Arrowmaster: Well, you shouldn't use coa anyway. So who cares. |
| 23:35.33 | aestil | buu, i tend to look at dots more as the how much time it takes me to cast, vs. how much dmg they do ini the end. |
| 23:35.33 | buu | Hrm. 40/21 loses me 20% of my spell damage (220 ish) |
| 23:35.38 | Arrowmaster | my CoA is 150dps completely unbuffed and atleast 200dps buffed on a debuffed target |
| 23:35.42 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: if you're hiding chat frame 1, you'll have to hide the tab separately (it's a separate frame |
| 23:35.43 | Ellipsis | ) |
| 23:35.46 | buu | aestil: Sure, dpct is the way to look at dots. |
| 23:35.46 | Arrowmaster | buu: i always use CoA |
| 23:35.50 | buu | Arrowmaster: FAAAAAAAAAAAAIl. |
| 23:36.02 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: right-clicking the tab and clicking "remove chat frame"... |
| 23:36.10 | Ellipsis | er |
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| 23:36.14 | aestil | there is no math command in irc? |
| 23:36.18 | Arrowmaster | buu: l2raidwithmorethan2locks |
| 23:36.19 | Ellipsis | it should lose its tab then |
| 23:36.23 | buu | Arrowmaster: l2cod |
| 23:36.24 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: /rl |
| 23:36.33 | Arrowmaster | buu: my cod is less dps |
| 23:36.36 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 23:36.36 | buu | Bullshit |
| 23:36.38 | buu | Do the math. |
| 23:36.39 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: WTF? |
| 23:36.40 | Arrowmaster | i have |
| 23:36.45 | buu | No you haven't! |
| 23:36.47 | Arrowmaster | CoD is not effected by SM |
| 23:36.50 | durcyn | only on bosses that partially resist COD |
| 23:36.50 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 23:36.53 | durcyn | and only then |
| 23:37.05 | buu | durcyn: You can possible resist cod and not coa? |
| 23:37.08 | Arrowmaster | ive done the math CoD is much less dps than CoA |
| 23:37.19 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster, I want to see this math |
| 23:37.20 | Pkekyo | meh, takes ages to do a reload |
| 23:37.21 | durcyn | buu: it takes a much bigger chunk out of doom, though |
| 23:37.31 | buu | durcyn: Er, 40% is 40% .. |
| 23:37.34 | buu | Or whatever. |
| 23:37.39 | Arrowmaster | but im at 1241 +shadow, if you fail and have shitty ass +shadow then yeah CoD will do more |
| 23:37.41 | buu | I mean, sure it looks bigger.. |
| 23:37.48 | buu | Arrowmaster: Your cod does more damage. |
| 23:37.55 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt |
| 23:37.58 | buu | It does! |
| 23:38.01 | Arrowmaster | does not |
| 23:38.03 | buu | Ok I'm bored of this |
| 23:38.03 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 23:38.05 | buu | I'll tell you why |
| 23:38.09 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: PROVE IT. |
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| 23:38.13 | Arrowmaster | dont say gcd |
| 23:38.15 | buu | Arrowmaster: Your dps calculations aren't counting the extra time you waste casting coa. |
| 23:38.27 | Arrowmaster | 1.5 seconds is nothing |
| 23:38.31 | buu | lewl |
| 23:38.33 | Pkekyo | fixed it, cheers Ellipsis |
| 23:38.37 | aestil | how often you have to refresh it. |
| 23:38.42 | Ellipsis | plus, don't forget that if you use amp, it gets twice as much use on a CoD |
| 23:38.44 | buu | aestil: 24 seconds |
| 23:38.54 | buu | 1.5 seconds is easily 2k damage |
| 23:38.54 | aestil | how often doom? |
| 23:38.57 | Ellipsis | 1min |
| 23:38.58 | buu | aestil: 60 |
| 23:39.34 | aestil | so basically with doom, you have to fresh 1 time a minute. |
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| 23:39.41 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 23:39.43 | buu | That's basically what 60 seconds means, yes. |
| 23:39.43 | Arrowmaster | buu: you do 1333.33 dps? |
| 23:39.46 | aestil | you lose over 3 seconds refershing CoA |
| 23:39.52 | buu | Arrowmaster: Close =[ |
| 23:40.03 | charon | how accurate is wws debuff tracking? i noticed it's a bit off on buffs sometimes, gruul tends to show up with fewer growths than he actually has |
| 23:40.09 | aestil | so the difference is a bit more than 1 SB |
| 23:40.10 | Arrowmaster | do you have imp coa? |
| 23:40.13 | Arrowmaster | because i do |
| 23:40.15 | buu | Uh.. no. |
| 23:40.17 | Arrowmaster | and CoA > CoD |
| 23:40.25 | buu | That's like, an extra 100 damage per coa. |
| 23:40.29 | aestil | i think the question you have to figure arrowmaster |
| 23:40.37 | Ellipsis | also, doom is spammable - an early or late CoA reduces dps, but there's no risk of that with CoD |
| 23:40.39 | Arrowmaster | imp CoA does a lot more than 100 dmg |
| 23:40.40 | aestil | is doom + 1 SB > than 2+ CoA |
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| 23:40.52 | buu | Arrowmaster: 1124 * 1.1 = ? |
| 23:40.55 | Kalroth | D'oh! |
| 23:41.00 | aestil | Ellipsis: that fails as a reason though. |
| 23:41.06 | aestil | Ellipsis: i would just tell that person to l2play |
| 23:41.09 | buu | Whatever the damage is on coa. |
| 23:41.17 | Arrowmaster | buu: its AFTER +dmg |
| 23:41.23 | Ellipsis | aestil: not if you lag or have resists etc. screwing up your rotation |
| 23:41.33 | Arrowmaster | my CoA does like 4k dmg |
| 23:41.44 | aestil | i think in a 3 hour raid last night i missed 1 tick at the end of a VT |
| 23:42.03 | aestil | otherwise i did not override any dots the whole night. |
| 23:42.12 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 23:42.27 | aestil | btw, i don't understand destro lock spec. |
| 23:42.28 | Ellipsis | the problem with locks is that often two dots will be wearing off at once |
| 23:42.36 | aestil | at 26 pts all i see are PvP talents and fire talents |
| 23:42.47 | buu | aestil: 26 poitns? |
| 23:42.51 | buu | aestil: Huh? |
| 23:42.56 | buu | aestil: Destro is 21/40 |
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| 23:43.14 | aestil | buu, you take imp immolate? |
| 23:43.22 | buu | aestil: Doesn't matter, it's just filler to get to SNF |
| 23:43.40 | buu | aestil: You hit imp sb, bane, devastation, ruin, backlash and SnF, the rest is filler |
| 23:43.41 | aestil | i think fire locks were better, when fire mages were good. |
| 23:43.43 | Ellipsis | most of destro is filler for the good stuff |
| 23:43.51 | Ellipsis | it's like demonology only less sucky |
| 23:44.11 | buu | Ellipsis: Hrm. If I go 40/21, I get DK + 30 points of imp fel armour, +5 % crit, vs losing 3% crit and 20% of my spell damage. |
| 23:45.54 | Ellipsis | maybe that's what I need to do. I'm frustrated with the sacrifices I'm having to make for a 41/0/20 spec |
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| 23:46.02 | Ellipsis | so I'll just throw some points into demo! |
| 23:46.23 | Arrowmaster | 42/0/19 ftw |
| 23:46.24 | aestil | or transfer to darkspear |
| 23:46.38 | aestil | !c us darkspear lastwords |
| 23:46.39 | ThraeBot | aestil: Lastwords, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 9920 HP; 8740 Mana; 114 mana regen; 202 spell crit; 176 spell hit; 933 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (987); 164 shadow dmg (1097); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 524 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2calyr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mupk6 ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 13:51:44 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:47.04 | buu | Ellipsis: There's no point to going 20 in to destro, like, seriously. |
| 23:47.14 | aestil | imp SB? |
| 23:47.14 | buu | Ellipsis: 41/0/20 is a super minmax raid spec. |
| 23:47.27 | buu | aestil: Imp sb is 5 points. Bane is 5+5 |
| 23:47.35 | aestil | yes |
| 23:47.50 | aestil | then 5% more crit |
| 23:48.03 | aestil | 70% uninterupted SB's and greater range/less threat |
| 23:48.06 | Ellipsis | buu: I know, but...well...it's my best hope for getting into raids or into a better guild |
| 23:48.07 | aestil | its pretty cookie cutter. |
| 23:48.10 | Arrowmaster | i only take 4% more crit and shadowburn (which i never use) |
| 23:48.12 | buu | Yeah, but that's 5% more crit on like, 40% of your spells |
| 23:48.26 | buu | And your crits only do 150% damage |
| 23:48.34 | aestil | buu, i know how that feels |
| 23:48.42 | buu | Ellipsis: Uh, isn't your guild doing BT? |
| 23:48.47 | Ellipsis | LOL |
| 23:48.50 | aestil | her guild is doing mag |
| 23:48.50 | Ellipsis | my guild is wiping to mag |
| 23:48.53 | buu | rofl |
| 23:48.53 | aestil | or failing at doing mag |
| 23:48.58 | buu | Scratch that. |
| 23:49.11 | aestil | on that note though buu, chruch may, just maybe down KT this week. |
| 23:49.12 | buu | I need multiple warlocks =[ |
| 23:49.14 | buu | Or free respecs. |
| 23:49.16 | buu | aestil: ! |
| 23:49.22 | buu | aestil: We're going to wipe to morogrim for a while. |
| 23:49.24 | Ellipsis | you didn't think I'd be struggling for hit cap and 1k shadow if I was in a BT guild, seriously? |
| 23:49.27 | buu | It'll be a blast. |
| 23:49.34 | aestil | buu, you just got there? |
| 23:49.41 | aestil | buu or you are having problems on him? |
| 23:49.43 | buu | Ellipsis: Well, I thought everyone else was off clearing BT while you trie dto kara. |
| 23:49.51 | aestil | Ellipsis: yeah, me too. |
| 23:49.54 | buu | aestil: We've tried him one day. |
| 23:49.59 | aestil | buu: he's easy |
| 23:50.00 | chexsum | my priest craves free respecs or a pvp and pve spec |
| 23:50.08 | aestil | have pally and pally healers down at teh watery graves. |
| 23:50.15 | buu | aestil: We walked in, first ever attempt and got him to 8% |
| 23:50.21 | buu | Then we wiped 8 more times and called it. |
| 23:50.27 | Ellipsis | buu: not remotely. here's how it goes down on raid nights |
| 23:50.27 | aestil | s'ok. |
| 23:50.32 | buu | aestil: =[ |
| 23:50.37 | buu | aestil: We're trying to stack the prot pally on moro |
| 23:50.38 | aestil | but you have a pally tank and pally healers down by watery grave. |
| 23:50.42 | buu | Which worked awesome the first time |
| 23:50.48 | aestil | buu: convince them its not worth it. |
| 23:50.53 | buu | Then we lost two healers every time we had a murloc spawn =[ |
| 23:50.55 | aestil | have them talk to me. |
| 23:50.58 | buu | aestil: I tried! |
| 23:51.03 | Ellipsis | guild MOTD reads "25man raid at 6pm" - at 6pm, 16 people are on, none of them tanks - they decide to do alt karas, and end up with 3 kara groups, none of which has room for me |
| 23:51.03 | buu | aestil: That might be difficult =] |
| 23:51.07 | Arrowmaster | bah i might have to respec tonight |
| 23:51.08 | aestil | buu 3 healers down by watery grave. |
| 23:51.12 | aestil | 1 pally, |
| 23:51.18 | buu | aestil: How many healers do you bring? |
| 23:51.20 | aestil | pally tank spam heals people, usually locks. |
| 23:51.27 | aestil | 7 maybe? |
| 23:51.32 | aestil | we only bring 5 to KT. |
| 23:51.33 | buu | I think we only had 6 at the time. |
| 23:51.40 | aestil | 2 for the pally should be ok. |
| 23:51.50 | aestil | 3rd person down there is primarily for healing people who get graved |
| 23:51.56 | aestil | the keys to morrogrim are as follows |
| 23:52.02 | aestil | at murlocs, only heal MT |
| 23:52.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: wait, they' |
| 23:52.05 | buu | aestil: I'm thinking if we move the pally back like 10 yards off moro |
| 23:52.05 | aestil | and have all healers on MT |
| 23:52.09 | buu | Or use a second pally to pull to him |
| 23:52.10 | aestil | even people who used to be raid healing. |
| 23:52.11 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 23:52.11 | NightHawkAtWork | they're taking alts to kara over your main? |
| 23:52.15 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 23:52.15 | Arrowmaster | if you do that youll wipe |
| 23:52.24 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: dude, /gquit, seriously |
| 23:52.27 | aestil | wait buu, seriously this is soooooo easy you will do it. |
| 23:52.27 | Ellipsis | I'm only a recruit |
| 23:52.37 | buu | aestil: MT? What about the pally? |
| 23:52.39 | aestil | Ellipsis: thtas teh stupidest thing i've ever heard. |
| 23:52.39 | Ellipsis | and they don't know me at all |
| 23:52.42 | NightHawkAtWork | so? that's just not cool |
| 23:52.52 | aestil | pally doesn't take dmg until the murlocs get to him at the wattery grave |
| 23:53.01 | aestil | pally spam heals warlocks. |
| 23:53.10 | NightHawkAtWork | i mean, i can understand not giving you priority on loot if you're reasonably new, but not even taking you over an alt? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. |
| 23:53.11 | aestil | he has the pally threat thing up |
| 23:53.13 | buu | aestil: How far back do you put the prot pally? |
| 23:53.20 | aestil | at the watery graves |
| 23:53.22 | Ellipsis | usually what happens is they realize they don't have enough for 2 karas, so they invite the Afterlife alts, which just opens the floodgates of dps chars |
| 23:53.27 | aestil | the murlocs run past everyone else. |
| 23:53.31 | Ellipsis | so they have way more dps than they have room for |
| 23:53.34 | aestil | when there is an earthquake, he spam heals. |
| 23:53.40 | buu | aestil: Right. |
| 23:53.44 | aestil | murlocs run to him |
| 23:53.47 | aestil | he pally tanks. |
| 23:53.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: pfft. mains > alts. :P |
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| 23:53.49 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 23:53.57 | buu | Ellipsis: Start your own kara. |
| 23:54.04 | Ellipsis | buu: lol, you mean like a pug? |
| 23:54.05 | aestil | after about 8 seconds or so, you seed like crazy and then start flamestrike or whatever, to detonate the seeds. |
| 23:54.08 | buu | Ellipsis: No.. |
| 23:54.10 | Arrowmaster | aestil: there shouldnt be any murlocs up during an earthquake |
| 23:54.11 | buu | Ellipsis: I mean in the guild. |
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| 23:54.23 | aestil | earthqauke calls the murlocks |
| 23:54.23 | Ellipsis | buu: I don't have any friends and I don't know anyone in the guild |
| 23:54.23 | buu | aestil: Are the 2 pally healers out of range of the MT? |
| 23:54.29 | buu | Ellipsis: MAN UP |
| 23:54.30 | aestil | yes. |
| 23:54.39 | aestil | buu: you can aoutrange the watery grave |
| 23:54.46 | buu | aestil: Yeah, that's what I was suggesting. |
| 23:54.48 | Arrowmaster | aestil: exactly so when it happen theyre arent any but right after there are |
| 23:54.51 | Ellipsis | nobody in the guild is gonna be like "hey I'm going to that nublock's kara instead of one of the guild officer run karas" |
| 23:54.54 | aestil | uh huh. |
| 23:54.59 | buu | aestil: If we use a second pally we might be able to just bruteforce him down |
| 23:55.08 | aestil | you use the earthquake dmg done, to find people to heal. |
| 23:55.26 | aestil | earthquake -> people take dmg -> pally heals 3 big heals -> pally has aggro -> pally tanks. |
| 23:55.29 | buu | aestil: I'm thinking drop the prot pally like 5-10 yards off of morogrim, he heals to grab the first set, then a second pally heals to pull the second set until the pally pulls them off. |
| 23:55.51 | buu | aestil: Because people REALLY don't like moving healers out of range of the MT =[ |
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| 23:55.54 | buu | Dunno. |
| 23:55.59 | buu | aestil: are you going to be online in like an hour? |
| 23:56.04 | aestil | buu: that can work. what i dont' like about all thosoe strategies, is that it leaves something out of your control, that could otherwise be inyour control. |
| 23:56.17 | aestil | should be 4 people spam healing MT |
| 23:56.22 | Arrowmaster | we just have a pally spam heal to pull the murlocs then warriors pick them up they get frost nova'ed etc, pally doesnt actually tank |
| 23:56.23 | aestil | 1 raid healer |
| 23:56.30 | aestil | 2 pally healers. |
| 23:56.33 | buu | Arrowmaster: We bring like, 1 mage =[ |
| 23:56.38 | buu | We lost them all in a card game. |
| 23:56.43 | Arrowmaster | ok get more |
| 23:56.52 | aestil | i wont be online in an hour. |
| 23:56.53 | buu | Mages keep applying .. in blues. |
| 23:56.58 | buu | aestil: =[ |
| 23:57.07 | aestil | but making sure the pally, and the people healing him never get watery graved, makes the fight realllly easy. |
| 23:57.15 | aestil | having MD's makes it easier too. |
| 23:57.20 | buu | aestil: Yeah, that was unfortunate. |
| 23:57.31 | Arrowmaster | seriously get more mages |
| 23:57.38 | buu | aestil: Lots of times we'd have healers get aggro, then get water graved and get eaten by the murlox on the way over. |
| 23:57.39 | aestil | we once brought 3 hunters to morrogrim, and he died faster than we excpected. |
| 23:57.45 | aestil | haha. |
| 23:57.46 | buu | Arrowmaster: Pssh, mages. |
| 23:57.52 | Arrowmaster | few mages + warlocks = murlocs dead in seconds |
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| 23:57.55 | aestil | buu: heal no one but the MT after an earthquake |
| 23:58.01 | buu | aestil: Why? |
| 23:58.03 | aestil | your MH anyways. |
| 23:58.17 | aestil | because the murloc's might add to them |
| 23:58.29 | buu | And they won't just from healing the mt? |
| 23:58.29 | aestil | if you have 2 people healing the MT after earthaquake, thats x threat / 2 |
| 23:58.37 | aestil | if youhave 5 people healing its x threat / 5 |
| 23:58.39 | Arrowmaster | warlocks do the damage, mages control them and finish them off |
| 23:58.46 | aestil | chances of one of them getting enough threat, to pull off the paladin are very low. |
| 23:58.52 | buu | Arrowmaster: It's a nice dream. |
| 23:59.02 | buu | aestil: Well, the problem was pulling the ones incoming from the farthest end |
| 23:59.04 | aestil | buu: we often have 2 locks, and 2 mages for raids. |
| 23:59.07 | buu | Since we tanke dmoro right at that entrance. |
| 23:59.08 | aestil | in fact, thats our max |
| 23:59.19 | buu | aestil: We stack them up for solarian, but yeah |
| 23:59.22 | Arrowmaster | we've had 4 locks and 4 mages at once i think |
| 23:59.25 | buu | Generally we don't have more. |
| 23:59.32 | buu | And somehow I still don't get loot. |
| 23:59.35 | aestil | you don't need more for morrogrim, or solarian |
| 23:59.50 | buu | aestil: 5-6 aoe makes that fight way easier. |
| 23:59.59 | aestil | easier, but you don't need it. |
