| 00:00.01 | NightHawkAtWork | Grum: There's still all sorts of grey area between that and "stable", where active development takes place. |
| 00:00.15 | dashkal | But meh, we've gone offtopic here. For a single developer branches are unnecessary overhead. |
| 00:00.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Not stable, and sometimes may break, but most of the time will just be heavily modified but still work reasonably well |
| 00:00.23 | dashkal | Tags can be used for releases easily |
| 00:00.32 | Toadkiller | Oh hey: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibStickyFrames-1.0 : hot or not? |
| 00:00.37 | dashkal | and for good reasons. A developer should always be required to make a conscious decision to release code |
| 00:00.51 | Grum | NightHawkAtWork: you should come develop where i've worked before, push 1 unstable byte in the 'trunk' and you would be killed by 15 devvers :) |
| 00:01.05 | NightHawkAtWork | Grum: sounds like a shitty place to work |
| 00:01.12 | Grum | no it was brilliant tbh :) |
| 00:01.14 | Kemayo | We do not "release" code! It escapes, bloody and battered! |
| 00:01.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Here, they simply say "did you break this?" and then ask nicely if you can fix it :P |
| 00:01.28 | Grum | very clear, very strict (well .. most of the cases) |
| 00:01.37 | Grum | so you spend time on it .. wasted .. |
| 00:01.39 | many | Kemayo: :> |
| 00:01.42 | dashkal | Same deal here |
| 00:01.55 | dashkal | You break it, you fix it. If you actually make it not compile, _then_ you get shamed |
| 00:01.59 | NightHawkAtWork | Grum: sure, maybe some time is wasted, but I end up hating my coworkers a lot les. |
| 00:02.02 | Wobin | and your compatriots stand above you with a Damocles Sword =) |
| 00:02.05 | Xuerian | Kemayo: ROFL |
| 00:02.08 | Grum | you dont hate your coworkers |
| 00:02.12 | Xuerian | Kemayo: That fits here so well |
| 00:02.14 | Grum | you just dont push stuff to trunk :) |
| 00:02.32 | NightHawkAtWork | If my coworkers jumped on my back every time i pushed something to trunk that didn't work 100%? Yeah, I'd hate them, and plot their deaths, and get a new job. |
| 00:02.36 | NightHawkAtWork | That's a shitty work environment. |
| 00:02.45 | Grum | it is not, as everyone was working in branches :) |
| 00:02.55 | Wobin | Toadkiller: Wasn't the original StickyFrames an Iriel thing? |
| 00:02.56 | Grum | thus that would *never* occur without permission of a release manager :) |
| 00:03.05 | dashkal | Eh *shrugs*. Your organization obviously defined 'trunk' as 'release'. I disagree that that is a sane development method, but whatever |
| 00:03.10 | NightHawkAtWork | so its a shitty work environment with a poorly managed and messy repository :P |
| 00:03.10 | Wobin | Or perhaps a cladhaire thing |
| 00:03.10 | Grum | oh .. and if you did .. you had to buy cake ;D |
| 00:03.10 | Antiarc | http://www.themishmash.com/2007/11/explain-this-ta.html |
| 00:03.15 | Wobin | but I think an Iriel thing |
| 00:03.17 | Kemayo | Xuerian: It's from the old "Klingon programmer" joke. http://gradha.sdf-eu.org/textos/klingon_programmer.en.html |
| 00:03.20 | Grum | dashkal: no we declare trunk as stable |
| 00:03.23 | Grum | not as release |
| 00:03.24 | Wobin | Grum: The cake is a lie! =( |
| 00:03.36 | Grum | actually its not |
| 00:03.37 | dashkal | when the test for 'stable' == the test for 'release quality' yeah... |
| 00:03.44 | Grum | just that we kinda slacked on that occasionally ;D |
| 00:04.04 | Grum | dashkal: nothing entered 'trunk' unless it was checked by a releasemanager |
| 00:04.12 | Grum | therefor trunk was deemed stable at all times |
| 00:04.54 | Xinhuan | lets go back to how this started 1 hour ago. :) "trunk on wowace" should be of stable/release quality (because of the zip script), and Toadkiller should not be committing code-breaking-stuff on it. |
| 00:05.08 | Grum | 1hr? make that 2 ;D |
| 00:05.09 | dashkal | agreed due to the limitations of WAU |
| 00:05.11 | Xinhuan | the number of users in the world downloading directly from files.wowace.com |
| 00:05.16 | Xinhuan | is a lot |
| 00:05.25 | Xuerian | Kemayo: awesome. |
| 00:05.27 | Wobin | agreed |
| 00:05.28 | Xinhuan | whether you like it or not, trunk should be stable - for wowace |
| 00:05.34 | dashkal | for WAU, trunk == release and should always be |
| 00:05.39 | Xinhuan | and in fact, it should even be release quality |
| 00:05.41 | dashkal | until that's fixed anyway |
| 00:05.41 | Wobin | unfortunately WAU has forced a certain release style |
| 00:05.50 | kebinusan | To me it seems like trunk is like that, you rarely see people push stuff that will only work in a PTR build to the trunk |
| 00:05.52 | Grum | dashkal: fixing == creating overhad ;) |
| 00:05.56 | Xuerian | Ya know what was fun |
| 00:06.00 | Xuerian | Tainting fiascoes. |
| 00:06.02 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: that's not a product of design, merely a product of happenstance, though. ;) |
| 00:06.07 | Grum | kebinusan: some autobar addon writer did ;) |
| 00:06.08 | Xinhuan | exactly |
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| 00:06.31 | dashkal | Grum: I'm isolated from broken code by devs due to another development practice: proper mocking. If his code breaks, I swap in the stubs and continue without pause. |
| 00:06.42 | Grum | lol |
| 00:06.52 | Grum | so you spend time writing those mocks? poor you :) |
| 00:07.01 | Nargiddley | whether *they* like it or not, trunk is generally where development happens on wowace, if they dont want that quality of code stop updating without knowing whats in the update |
| 00:07.07 | Wobin | dashkal: no no |
| 00:07.17 | dashkal | Damn rights I do. Makes automated testing a hell of a lot easier |
| 00:07.21 | Grum | and next to that, some stuff you just cant mock :) |
| 00:07.25 | Wobin | Proper mocking is where you call him and his work horrible names until he's properly shamed and does it right! |
| 00:07.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: so at that point your argument for doing that way is simply begging the question. but *shrug* :P |
| 00:07.35 | dashkal | lol @ wobin |
| 00:07.36 | dashkal | point |
| 00:07.52 | Xinhuan | my point for the argument has always been specific to wowace |
| 00:07.55 | Xinhuan | and not for general svns |
| 00:07.58 | dashkal | And I have never found something I cannot put a stub up for. If it happens, the design has a flaw |
| 00:08.10 | Xinhuan | you are trying to argue for "general svns" which i dont' disagree with |
| 00:08.21 | dashkal | Stubs take no more time to write than test cases |
| 00:08.22 | Grum | and my point has been for *any* VCS and not wowace's :) |
| 00:08.40 | Grum | allthough i agree, doing this on CVS would be horrible ;D |
| 00:09.06 | dashkal | I do it at the same time, actually. Stub + test case first, then implementation. THe other devs can get to work with my stubs until I complete the real code |
| 00:09.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: well, the thing is, there's no logical reason for wowace to be any different than "general svns" other than because it's already this way, which is basically circular |
| 00:09.37 | Grum | dashkal: double work is not really effective .. ah well .. 50% extra work :) |
| 00:09.44 | many | thanks again |
| 00:09.53 | dashkal | O.o I think you're overestimating the time it takes to stub out an interface |
| 00:09.53 | Xinhuan | well wowace is currently the way it is, trying to resist it (as toadkiller is doing) is wrong in my eyes |
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| 00:10.20 | Grum | dashkal: you have to be coding java .. |
| 00:10.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: *shrug* i think users bitch too much, honestly. ;) |
| 00:10.40 | Toadkiller | Toadkiller resumes chewing her cud, oblivious to the buzzing noise around her |
| 00:10.43 | Neebler | I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS |
| 00:10.44 | dashkal | While true (and so I used that term) the practise applies regardless of language |
| 00:11.01 | Xinhuan | no, it IS annoying when 100 people come in this channel to say this and that about autobar is broken |
| 00:11.18 | Stanzilla | Toadkiller: you should run now |
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| 00:11.37 | Grum | dashkal: java is so over abstracted that making mocks for interfaces is rather trivial yet you likely find that in some situations making 'proper' mocks is nearly as much time as doing the 'real thing' :) |
| 00:11.55 | Grum | remove the second 'is' :p |
| 00:12.24 | Grum | or not O.o |
| 00:12.24 | Toadkiller | Hey I ahve a question. I cannot remember where on the forums but someone has "sticky this particular post of mine inside my thread" technology. Where do I get the recipe for that? |
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| 00:12.24 | Grum | meh headache ;D |
| 00:12.24 | dashkal | Grum: erm? I've never found it difficult to write mock libraries in C. I just pick return values that make sense and document so other devs knew what to expect until I got the real work done |
| 00:12.31 | Grum | dashkal: so what if you mock a database? |
| 00:12.39 | Grum | or a databaselike item |
| 00:12.48 | dashkal | Grum: I don't mock the database, I mock the layer that protects the rest of the software from it |
| 00:12.49 | Ellipsis | you might hurt its feelings :( |
| 00:12.52 | Grum | where you add a record and expect to get 'one more back' :) |
| 00:13.00 | Grum | Ellipsis: ofc, that is why i am here |
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| 00:13.53 | Grum | dashkal: its not always easy to have it return 'good enough data' to make tests pass :) |
| 00:15.01 | dashkal | Grum: Example: My current project doesn't have a fully functional backend. To protect myself from this there's a package that all database access goes through. Two implementations. One real one that actually talks to the server, and one mock one I use to test. The mock one took me, oh, about 4 hours to write. It's 'good enough' that I can do my work without the backend being complete. |
| 00:15.49 | dashkal | The real one? The person responsible for it estimates another 80 or so hours... |
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| 00:15.55 | Grum | but you'll find that the tests you have on the piece of code that talks with 'the real database' is broken because that would make mocking to hard :P |
| 00:16.01 | dashkal | that 4 hours of worked saved me from waiting two more weeks to get my job done |
| 00:16.45 | Grum | lets just say that especially with a database in the picture doing proper tests and mocking the database is *really* hard to do properly |
| 00:16.48 | dashkal | The dev in charge of the backend agreed to the test cases / interface. His code will match what I expect or he will fix it (or the interface will change, but *meh* that happens no matter what) |
| 00:16.52 | Grum | unless your tests are broken :P |
| 00:17.18 | dashkal | I'm not mocking the database, that would be insane. I'm mocking the interface to the 'back end'. |
| 00:17.30 | dashkal | the less my code knows about what he's up to, the simpler things are |
| 00:17.41 | Grum | because usually you'd do silly tests like: amount_before = ...; insert(); amount_after = ...; and then check if you 'added one' :P |
| 00:18.03 | Grum | tests like those tend to fail because of mocking :) |
| 00:18.22 | dashkal | I had no trouble making my mock pass that test |
| 00:18.40 | Toadkiller | Yeah you can cache results for instance... |
| 00:18.41 | Grum | and now updates :P |
| 00:19.03 | Grum | you can, but it takes time to 'properly' mock something ;P |
| 00:19.12 | dashkal | The mock database is just a few collections in memory |
| 00:19.27 | dashkal | about the only test it would fail is instance tests (did this object actually change) |
| 00:19.29 | Toadkiller | On the other hand why would the database layer conceivably take longer that the rest of the code? |
| 00:19.52 | Grum | Toadkiller: maybe building a new API on an old and crappy db? :P |
| 00:19.54 | Toadkiller | Or does your dba suck |
| 00:19.54 | Toadkiller | ? |
| 00:20.01 | dashkal | It wouldn't take longer, just that I didn't want to wait for it to be complete |
| 00:20.06 | Toadkiller | lol yeah i guess so |
| 00:20.28 | dashkal | By spending half a day mocking things up, I removed a dependancy that would have delayed me for two weeks. |
| 00:20.56 | Toadkiller | Last project we rewrote the database layer 3 times as we switched databases. At least they were all * SQL |
| 00:21.09 | Grum | iep |
| 00:21.12 | Grum | rewrote the layer? |
| 00:21.26 | dashkal | heh, I'm so glad I'm shielded from that kind of thing. I'm not even entirely sure what's back there. Best part is I have no need to ever know |
| 00:21.31 | Toadkiller | Yeah Oracle vs MS etc are not QUITE identical |
| 00:21.35 | Grum | i assume you switched database schemas and not types? |
| 00:21.39 | dashkal | As long as the interface holds, I don't care |
| 00:22.00 | Grum | dashkal: tbh i think the 'database guys' should have delivered a mock interface for you to talk with :) |
| 00:22.09 | Grum | Toadkiller: they are if you use SQL ;D |
| 00:22.14 | Grum | and not vender locked in stuff :P |
| 00:22.20 | dashkal | heh, that would have been good, but since I was blocked anyway I had nothing better to do |
| 00:22.26 | Toadkiller | Schemas change as they fine tune performance anyway |
| 00:22.46 | Grum | i dont get that one :) |
| 00:22.49 | Toadkiller | Mostly it is hidden by the interface but sometimes something bubbles up |
| 00:23.12 | Grum | changing schemas implies it was broken before :P |
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| 00:24.31 | Toadkiller | Grum: SQL is similar in that there are common SQL statements. However at the database layer there is no plug & play switching. One level up where you mate SQL table queries to objects etc yeah sure its identical. |
| 00:24.47 | Grum | mmm |
| 00:24.49 | Grum | what language? |
| 00:24.54 | Grum | in perl it is actually :) |
| 00:25.12 | Grum | you just say 'use another driver' .. doooooooone :P |
| 00:25.19 | Toadkiller | Mostly Java but C++ towards the end & even Apples crappy Webobjects at one point |
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| 00:27.26 | Grum | sad that java/c++ hasnt got something like that :( |
| 00:27.35 | Toadkiller | Actually it was Java -> WebObjects cuz Steve talked to someone who felt compelled to say yes -> Java -> C++ &then also a web take on it which added some javascript etc on top of it all &back to Java |
| 00:28.23 | Kemayo | Wasn't WebObjects ObjectiveC? |
| 00:28.34 | Kemayo | Oh, wait, it switched around 4.something. |
| 00:28.37 | Toadkiller | GOld star for Kemayo! |
| 00:28.40 | Kemayo | Never mind me. |
| 00:29.00 | Toadkiller | It was some bastard thing by the time we got saddled with it |
| 00:31.12 | Toadkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.06 | kebinusan | bleh I need to do something with my ui, http://www.shutupandpull.com/kebinusan/kebui.jpg |
| 00:33.15 | buu | Java is hard! |
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| 00:35.32 | Ellipsis | ...your guild has a pr0n forum? |
| 00:35.42 | kebinusan | haha yeah, but its access restricted |
| 00:35.51 | Stanzilla | kebinusan: don't use that ugly texture |
| 00:35.53 | Shadowed | kebinusan, no idea why it's like that would have to ask someone who worked on WAU originally. |
| 00:36.35 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 00:36.48 | Ellipsis | maybe clean up the fubar some? |
| 00:37.00 | Nefarion | looking for ui suggestions? |
| 00:37.05 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 00:37.10 | Shadowed | Toadkiller, that sticky frame code is from clad as far as I know btw |
| 00:37.18 | Ellipsis | I'm thinking that vol gold would look better on your action bars |
| 00:37.21 | Nefarion | i may be harsh but |
| 00:37.31 | Orionshock | lol kebinusan <Shut Up and Pull> ? |
| 00:37.34 | kebinusan | harsh is welcome |
| 00:37.39 | kebinusan | yeah thats the guild name |
| 00:37.41 | Shadowed | bah he left! |
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| 00:37.56 | Orionshock | god i want to say that to half my raid most of the time |
| 00:37.58 | Nefarion | first, remove the config fubar plugins. don't need them. keep info displays only up there. remove or format those buffs; they stick out and are generally pretty damn ugly. |
| 00:38.17 | Nefarion | that bottom panel? fail. random, inconsistent, cluttered. |
| 00:39.05 | Nefarion | try to keep your borders consistent. the border on the buttons--apply it to the minimap. or better yet scrap it for a gold border if you want that bottom panel's border like that. |
| 00:39.22 | Nefarion | remove the border from the coords, maybe even move the coords onto the minimap |
| 00:39.26 | kebinusan | Well its not that random, I have all the class channels and gen/trade on the left, guild/raid on the right.. which is useful as a raid lead to see whats going on, but yeah.. I know texture wise theres alot wrong |
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| 00:39.43 | kebinusan | yeah good idea ont he coords |
| 00:39.51 | Nefarion | learn to use keybindings man. it speeds up reacton times dramatically and it'll make your ui simpler and much prettier. |
| 00:39.56 | Nefarion | and scale things WAY down |
| 00:40.03 | Nefarion | too much wasted space |
| 00:40.05 | kebinusan | I actually use keybindings I just have everythign visible |
| 00:40.18 | kebinusan | which Im thinking I should just hide everything I have key bound and only show stuff Id click |
| 00:40.20 | Nefarion | i used to be like that. you'll feel..clean when you change that. |
| 00:40.41 | Nefarion | i show only out-of-combat stuff (mount, hearth, pet summons, professions) |
| 00:40.51 | Diao | i need to change up my UI |
| 00:41.02 | Ellipsis | kebinusan: how do you have things bound? |
| 00:41.09 | kebinusan | the big block of bars basically equates to everything on my keyboard under my left hand |
| 00:41.09 | Nefarion | try to use symmetry to make it look less random |
| 00:41.43 | Diao | http://www.clockwork-guild.net/cockwork.jpg |
| 00:41.45 | Diao | what to change hm |
| 00:41.49 | kebinusan | below autobar, 1-6, then q-t with some shift bound buttons for movements, then a-g, and z-b |
| 00:42.20 | Nefarion | other than that i can't give much more advice... people can help you clean things but nobody can show you how to make your UI gorgeous; it's a sort of personal work of art and you'll need to learn to do it. |
| 00:42.50 | Wobin | Diao: Oh. |
| 00:43.03 | Wobin | from the title of that file... I was expecting something much more nsfw =P |
| 00:43.14 | Ellipsis | yeah, major disappointment imo |
| 00:43.43 | Diao | lol |
| 00:43.49 | Diao | it's a nickname for our guild :( |
| 00:44.14 | Diao | sorry to disappoint |
| 00:44.23 | Nefarion | kebinusan: experiment with pitbull. the default layout and texts are *okay* but not very pretty and not always functional. |
| 00:44.31 | Nefarion | check the layout thread for ideas |
| 00:45.30 | kebinusan | yeah I should do that too, thanks that gives me some places to start working |
| 00:49.42 | Gagorian- | Is it annoying or what that in fullscreen you can't tab out from loading screens? |
| 00:49.54 | Kemayo | Quite annoying, yes. |
| 00:49.55 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 00:50.07 | Gagorian- | Always need to time it so you enter the load screen and tab a the exact same moment |
| 00:50.09 | Gagorian- | Then you get out |
| 00:50.13 | Gagorian- | But it fails sometimes |
| 00:50.14 | Kemayo | It's more annoying that you can't alt-tab out if something gets into an infinite loop. |
| 00:50.25 | Ellipsis | oh well |
| 00:50.36 | Ellipsis | better it not let me alt-tab than break when I do (cough Portal cough) |
| 00:51.09 | Kemayo | There was a period where I was able to use the process manager to kill WoW entirely through keyboard shortcuts without being able to see the window. |
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| 00:51.33 | Ellipsis | Kemayo: that's kinda hot |
| 00:52.22 | Kemayo | It's an important life skill. |
| 00:52.46 | hyperChipmunk | xkill ftw |
| 00:52.58 | dashkal | mmm, ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 00:53.08 | Ellipsis | tbh, that's why I have a G15 task manager applet |
| 00:53.19 | Ellipsis | I can actually see what I'm doing when something hangs full-screen |
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| 00:53.24 | dashkal | Ellipsis: Where did you find such a thing? |
| 00:53.36 | Ellipsis | the miracle of the interwebs is that google can find what you can't, dashkal |
| 00:53.43 | Ellipsis | there are several |
| 00:53.53 | Kemayo | Ooh, I hadn't thought of that. |
| 00:54.03 | dashkal | I hadn't even though to look for one. Any recomendations? |
| 00:54.17 | Diao | lol |
| 00:54.31 | Ellipsis | I use one of the LCDStudio setups for it, if you don't run LCDStudio there are a couple G15-specific ones |
| 00:54.37 | dashkal | *nods* |
| 00:54.48 | dashkal | Gotta install that tonight |
| 00:54.52 | Diao | hmm |
| 00:54.52 | Chompers | second screen with taskman running works too |
| 00:54.59 | Diao | anyone tried the new microsoft sidewinder mouse |
| 00:55.06 | Diao | it looks kinda uncomfortable but interesting |
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| 00:55.39 | Ellipsis | dashkal: http://g15forums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065 |
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| 00:57.00 | Ellipsis | several of the "all-in-one" applets have task managers as well |
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| 01:02.28 | dashkal | Ellipsis: Danke |
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| 01:04.11 | Wobin | Kemayo: Are you pimping BankStack in my MrPlow thread? =P |
| 01:04.16 | Wobin | bad, bad form =P |
| 01:04.26 | Kemayo | Wobin: I even confessed to it being bad form! |
| 01:04.28 | Wobin | I'd accept it if I weren't still working on it |
| 01:04.33 | Wobin | but -still- =P |
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| 01:05.36 | Kemayo | Was there actually a way to do that in MrPlow? |
| 01:06.45 | Wobin | well there is now |
| 01:06.49 | Wobin | since I abstracted out the bag listing |
| 01:07.01 | Wobin | ie, you can sort any bags as a group |
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| 01:07.24 | Kemayo | Hm... how do you handle profession bags if they're passed as part of a group at the moment? |
| 01:07.50 | Kemayo | I mean, to completely go off topic. |
| 01:08.04 | Wobin | They won't be |
| 01:08.10 | Wobin | that'll get filtered out first |
| 01:08.20 | Wobin | but I'm putting in a consolidation function |
| 01:08.30 | Wobin | that can parse from a group of bags, and move them to another group of bags |
| 01:08.48 | Wobin | so give it your normal bags, and your profession bags and it'll move what it can |
| 01:09.08 | CIA-7 | 03jerry 072.3 * r54248 10Talented/Talented/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Talented: (2.3 branch) added the new file to the TOC, and a few bugfixes. |
| 01:09.54 | Kemayo | I currently have it splitting out each type of profession bag from the bag list passed and sorting all the "types" separately. I'm hoping we'll get CanPutItemInBag so I don't have to think too hard about improving that. |
| 01:11.06 | kebinusan | can you bind keys to switching chat tabs |
| 01:11.10 | Wobin | yeah, MrPlow will do that |
| 01:11.19 | Kemayo | Oooh. I've just realized that means I can get rid of the localizing for "Bag". :D |
| 01:11.33 | Wobin | ... why aren't you using item numbers? |
| 01:11.54 | Kemayo | Because I don't want to have to update every time blizzard adds a new bag. |
| 01:12.40 | Wobin | ? |
| 01:13.20 | Kemayo | I'm using the returns from GetItemInfo -- for itemtype "Container" the subtype is the type of bag. |
| 01:14.07 | Kemayo | So it's either "Bag", which means I can put whatever I want in it, or something else, which means I can group everything up by comparing the subtypes. |
| 01:14.24 | Wobin | which isn't always accurate |
| 01:14.33 | Wobin | since you can put, like, mining picks in mining bags |
| 01:15.57 | Kemayo | It's accurate enough for my current needs -- since I'm not trying to move things between normal bags and specialty bags at the moment, apart from to fill stacks, I don't actually care what goes in them. |
| 01:16.56 | kebinusan | Is there an option in autobar to say only show the popup if shift is held down |
| 01:18.36 | Gnarfoz | there was, once, dunno what the current state of that feature is |
| 01:19.49 | kebinusan | yeah I forgot to ask toadkiller when he was around |
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| 01:21.38 | Gnarfoz | <+Kemayo> There was a period where I was able to use the process manager to kill WoW entirely through keyboard shortcuts without being able to see the window. <-- win+r, taskkill /f /im "wow.exe" ftw |
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| 01:22.52 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: "ctrl-alt-delete, w, del" wins on number of keystrokes. :P |
| 01:23.20 | Gnarfoz | c-a-d doesn't even open taskmgr for me :< |
| 01:23.51 | Kemayo | ctrl-shift-escape, then. |
| 01:24.11 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz fails at configuring windows |
| 01:24.30 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: actually, I win |
| 01:24.35 | Gnarfoz | :P |
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| 01:33.52 | Wobin | I wonder what happened to the other 64 Tomatoes_for_you |
| 01:34.18 | Ellipsis | I like tomatoes! |
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| 01:47.37 | buu | Ellipsis: You would you degenerate prevert. |
| 01:47.41 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r54249 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow: Added in /mrplow [banksort|bankstack|bankdefrag] |
| 01:47.48 | Ellipsis | I what now? |
| 01:48.11 | buu | And I've never managed to kill wow via the taskmanage, blind. |
| 01:48.15 | buu | I've tried on any number of times. |
| 01:48.17 | buu | It never works. |
| 01:52.21 | Ellipsis | so um |
| 01:52.31 | Ellipsis | shutting down manaforge ara isn't soloable |
| 01:52.36 | buu | Pshaw. |
| 01:52.38 | buu | You're a warlock. |
| 01:53.08 | Ellipsis | yeah but...oh wait |
| 01:53.12 | Ellipsis | are those guys enslavable? *grin* |
| 01:53.19 | buu | Which guys? |
| 01:53.49 | Ellipsis | the big engineers that come during the event |
| 01:53.51 | Stanzilla | MentalPower: why is the auctioneer fisheye still down? :( |
| 01:53.53 | Ellipsis | that'd be win |
| 01:53.55 | buu | Hey, if you enslave a demon, and click on a portal, what happens to the demon? |
| 01:54.07 | buu | Damn I need to try this now. |
| 01:54.44 | Ellipsis | it goes with you |
| 01:55.29 | buu | DUDE. |
| 01:55.33 | buu | Oh god. |
| 01:55.35 | buu | I need a mage. |
| 01:55.37 | buu | RIGHT NOW. |
| 01:55.44 | buu | Well, not right now. |
| 01:55.46 | buu | BUT SOON. |
| 01:56.00 | Ellipsis | whatcha gonna do? |
| 01:56.04 | buu | Are you sure it goes with you? |
| 01:56.15 | Ellipsis | last I checked, yes |
| 01:56.23 | Ellipsis | you could test with an infernal or something |
| 01:56.27 | Wobin | hearth? |
| 01:56.27 | buu | Heh, when did you check |
| 01:56.31 | buu | No, mage portal. |
| 01:56.39 | buu | Although I supopse hearth would work. |
| 01:56.40 | Kemayo | Hearthing loses an infernal. |
| 01:56.47 | buu | Guess hearthing doesn't work. |
| 01:56.51 | buu | Kemayo: How about the mage? |
| 01:56.59 | Kemayo | buu: Haven't tried it. |
| 01:57.38 | buu | I need to. |
| 01:57.46 | Ellipsis | buu: go to a major city, pay a mage in trade to port you somewhere, summon an infernal and enslave it before taking the port? :P |
| 01:57.52 | buu | Something like that. |
| 01:58.01 | buu | Ellipsis: There's a giant enslavable pitlord down in SMV |
| 01:58.05 | buu | NormallyI just run with it back to shat |
| 01:58.09 | buu | Where it scares newbies. |
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| 01:58.23 | buu | It tends to evade as soon as I let it go though =[ |
| 01:58.43 | Ellipsis | enslavable? |
| 01:58.44 | Ellipsis | WANT |
| 02:00.05 | Paene | Odd...you can't change Secure Frames attributes while in combat? |
| 02:00.24 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r54250 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow: added in bankbags 10 and 11 for those people with money to burn |
| 02:00.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah that pitlord in SMV is uber with his cleave that puts a debuff up that increases magic damage taken and his nonchanneled rain of fire |
| 02:01.16 | Wobin | Paene: I think that's the whole point |
| 02:01.35 | Arrowmaster | hmm i should run over and grab that pitlord next time we kill doomwalker |
| 02:01.57 | Paene | Wobin: Weird, I've seen other mods with the same functionality my mod has. |
| 02:02.00 | xyu` | people do doomwalker more than once? |
| 02:02.02 | xyu` | nice |
| 02:02.05 | xyu` | wish my guild did |
| 02:02.18 | xyu` | we do it once for the jutsu epeen stroking then never saw him again |
| 02:02.21 | cralor_ | when background downloaded reaches 100%, do i just press cancel? |
| 02:02.29 | Arrowmaster | only when we're bored after raiding |
| 02:02.32 | xyu` | cralor_: it should change to "finish" |
| 02:02.35 | Paene | I'm trying to make a button conjure the highest available mana gem on right-click and use the highest on left-click? Is there a trick that would let me do this? |
| 02:03.09 | Arrowmaster | Paene: macro text |
| 02:03.58 | Paene | I'm using that atm, would I have to just make it into a waterfall effect instead of changing the macro each time? |
| 02:04.09 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:04.51 | Paene | Is there a command to suppress error text temporarily? Like where it says "Ability not ready yet" |
| 02:05.29 | hyperChipmunk | Paene: there's a few addons in the svn that do it |
| 02:05.43 | hyperChipmunk | i forget what they're called atm >8P |
| 02:05.55 | Paene | well, I don't want it for all errors, just the errors my mod is gonna produce when I waterfall |
| 02:06.06 | Paene | unless I'm thinking about this wrong |
| 02:06.15 | Paene | but I assume the macro would be something like... |
| 02:06.19 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, should give you good code example |
| 02:06.36 | Arrowmaster | you can probably find something on the ui forum |
| 02:06.38 | Paene | /cast Conjure Mana Emerald |
| 02:06.38 | Paene | /cast Conjure Mana Ruby |
| 02:06.38 | Paene | etc etc |
| 02:06.41 | CIA-7 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r54251 10Ace3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:06.41 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceGUI: Add Widget Base functions to upgrade path |
| 02:06.41 | CIA-7 | AceConfigDialog: Don't try to select non-existant tabs |
| 02:06.51 | Arrowmaster | you cant do that |
| 02:07.00 | Kemayo | Paene: ErrorMonster does it. |
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| 02:07.25 | hyperChipmunk | Arrowmaster: you can hide it with a /script before and re-show it after, probably |
| 02:07.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats what hes wanting |
| 02:07.42 | Arrowmaster | and i ment he cant do /cast conjure like that |
| 02:07.56 | Paene | So it's impossible to make my button conjure the highest gem not conjured on right click? |
| 02:08.02 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:08.05 | Paene | lame |
| 02:08.17 | Arrowmaster | use a secure menu |
| 02:08.18 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Wouldn't quite work -- the errors would still be in UIErrorsFrame when you reshowed it unless their timeout had expired while it was hidden. |
| 02:08.29 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: i didn't mean hide literally |
| 02:08.38 | hyperChipmunk | just whatever method used to squelch it |
| 02:08.46 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Literalism ftw! |
| 02:09.01 | Paene | ugh...another menu...I struggled forever with the last one...bah |
| 02:09.16 | hyperChipmunk | Paene: you can /castrandom and spam it! |
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| 02:09.20 | Paene | lol |
| 02:09.28 | Arrowmaster | use /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear() at end of macro text |
| 02:09.32 | Arrowmaster | is one way |
| 02:09.36 | cralor_ | hah. and then my internet pops... |
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| 02:17.40 | xerawx | popped a cap all up in ur toobz |
| 02:20.50 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r54252 10BankStack/core.lua: BankStack: Handle config defaults. |
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| 02:33.35 | xyu` | how many afk reports does it take to stop ppl from getting honor? |
| 02:33.51 | Kaelten | http://patch.cursebeta.com/ |
| 02:39.27 | cralor_ | nice |
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| 02:39.55 | Kemayo | Kaelten: http://wow.cursebeta.com/downloads/details/9593/ gave me a TypeError about being unable to resolve field contributors, but was then fine when I reloaded it. |
| 02:40.11 | Kaelten | heh, weird |
| 02:40.22 | Kaelten | I know why |
| 02:40.30 | Kemayo | Kaelten: Oh, but reloading it got me an ad, and clicking the continue link got me a 404. |
| 02:40.55 | Kaelten | heh |
| 02:41.00 | Kaelten | try clicking there again |
| 02:41.02 | Kemayo | Incidentally, you haven't disabled django DEBUG for error pages. :D |
| 02:42.56 | Kemayo | Kaelten: Everything is working, though another interstitial ad hasn't shown up for me to test the 404 yet. |
| 02:43.09 | cralor_ | http://wow.cursebeta.com/downloads/http%3A//wow.cursebeta.com/downloads/ |
| 02:43.21 | Kaelten | ya I've alerted the guy responsible |
| 02:43.24 | Kaelten | he's fixing it |
| 02:43.34 | Kemayo | Ah, yes, I got another one and that's what it was. |
| 02:45.14 | Neebler | http://www.starfeeder.com/blog/archives/beautiful_night_elf_spotted/ |
| 02:48.26 | Kemayo | I am amused that the guy has a better costume, but only made it into one picture. |
| 02:48.32 | cralor_ | anyone know what to do if the background downloader has finished but the button still says 'cancel'? |
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| 02:50.08 | kenlyric | "one technique we're using in Wrath of the Lich King is to build more mission-based instances along the lines of Old Hillsbrad and Black Morass." - that makes me kinda giddy. |
| 02:50.43 | starlon | I didn't like either instance. |
| 02:51.12 | Gagorian | Haha, more bugged instances and gray hair due to NPCs fucking it up |
| 02:51.23 | kenlyric | OH was the only place five man I liked. |
| 02:51.25 | Gagorian | Thrall getting stuck anyone? |
| 02:51.58 | starlon | My fav was Arcatraz |
| 02:52.10 | starlon | humor ftw |
| 02:52.34 | Xuerian | BM: Fun and simple when the group doesn't have a negative IQ |
| 02:52.37 | Xuerian | Hell and damnnation when it does |
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| 02:53.49 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54253 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 02:53.49 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: |
| 02:53.49 | CIA-7 | - Add detailed wave warnings, on by default, can be turned off via menu. (drycoded, expect bugs) |
| 02:53.49 | CIA-7 | - Credits to shieldb, Arta & Thunderheart |
| 02:55.10 | Shadowed | Anyone become bugged and not being able to see what you say in guild chat, but everyone else can before? And no, it's not a mod causing it |
| 02:56.26 | Keias | Try gquit and get a reinvite? |
| 02:58.04 | Arrowmaster | lol i got reply of 'ok thanks' to my email to blizzard about my armory page not updating in over a month |
| 03:00.23 | Kaelten | stupid bug with the ad fixed |
| 03:01.52 | Funkeh` | Kaelten, what bug? |
| 03:02.09 | Kaelten | bug on curse |
| 03:02.14 | Kaelten | bbiab |
| 03:03.17 | starlon | That's retarded. Curse formats broken links from text in comments matching *.lua |
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| 03:12.08 | Sedai | Kaelten: you webmaster for curse? |
| 03:15.53 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Beta * r54254 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfig-3.0.xml: Ace3 - AceConfig: Comment out dropdown since it doesn't exist yet, prevent framexml error. |
| 03:18.06 | kenlyric | aww, another mod which doesn't default to default profile. |
| 03:20.12 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: ?? |
| 03:23.07 | kenlyric | guess it's just a bug with autobar. I didn't notice the errors in bugsack until just now. |
| 03:23.20 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 03:29.46 | Fin | Tekkub: Tour Guide rocks |
| 03:29.57 | Tekkub | yes it does |
| 03:30.02 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54255 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: Prevent possible bug |
| 03:30.05 | Funkeh` | not it doesn't |
| 03:30.08 | Funkeh` | it laaacks! |
| 03:30.22 | Tekkub | warlacks? |
| 03:30.43 | Tekkub | *points at last guide commit |
| 03:30.54 | Tekkub | I like horde more, they're the furry faction |
| 03:31.05 | Tekkub | problem is my first toon was dorf, and that's what I leveled up |
| 03:31.18 | cchome | anyone do alt-z like a few times...and pitbull frames goes crazy?? |
| 03:31.21 | gnorlish | increased rate of exp gain inc! |
| 03:32.41 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, is your latest commit the one on wowi? |
| 03:32.53 | Tekkub | is wowi an svn? :P |
| 03:32.57 | Funkeh` | or gcode? |
| 03:33.06 | Tekkub | gcode svn |
| 03:33.06 | Funkeh` | no, I mean did you release it |
| 03:33.25 | Tekkub | no there's really nothing worth releasing over the last one |
| 03:33.35 | NeoTron | how complete is tour guide? |
| 03:33.36 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r54256 10BankStack/ (config.lua core.lua fu.lua sort.lua stack.lua): |
| 03:33.36 | CIA-7 | BankStack: |
| 03:33.36 | CIA-7 | -Add custom bag groups. "/bankstack group [groupname] [bagid],[bagid],[bagid]" |
| 03:33.36 | CIA-7 | -All slashcommands take custom groups as arguments now. |
| 03:34.58 | Funkeh` | lol ok its changed quite a bit |
| 03:35.08 | Funkeh` | last time I did a checkout was when you originally posted about it |
| 03:35.21 | NeoTron | detailed wave warnings - does that mean it tells you what mobs are in the waves? |
| 03:35.30 | Funkeh` | yup |
| 03:35.35 | NeoTron | cool |
| 03:35.50 | NeoTron | using /rw if desired? |
| 03:35.55 | NeoTron | or just personal |
| 03:36.16 | Funkeh` | exact same as any other warnings, rw if you have it on |
| 03:36.41 | Funkeh` | optionally you can choose to see basic warnings |
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| 03:38.11 | cralor_ | can anyone help me fixing bugs with an addon i'm trying to make? :) brand-new to coding |
| 03:38.21 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r54257 10BankStack/config.lua: BankStack: Fix setting ignores. |
| 03:39.25 | Kemayo | cralor_: Stick the problematic code in a pastey (ace.pastey.net) and see whether anyone has input. |
| 03:42.35 | cralor_ | i have some.. 1 sec |
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| 03:43.37 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r54258 10BankStack/ (config.lua core.lua fu.lua sort.lua stack.lua): |
| 03:43.37 | CIA-7 | BankStack: Merge dev branch changes to trunk |
| 03:43.37 | CIA-7 | -Add ignore slots |
| 03:43.37 | CIA-7 | -Add custom groups |
| 03:43.37 | CIA-7 | -Move-optimization always enabled |
| 03:43.37 | CIA-7 | -Handle default config values better |
| 03:45.01 | cralor_ | http://ace.pastey.net/76858 | http://ace.pastey.net/76857 | http://ace.pastey.net/76856 | http://ace.pastey.net/76855 | http://ace.pastey.net/76854 | http://ace.pastey.net/76853 |
| 03:45.03 | cralor_ | lol lots |
| 03:45.11 | NeoTron | does anyone know of a place where you can download wow patches (PTR) without the downloaded? |
| 03:45.17 | NeoTron | a friend is unable to use it |
| 03:45.27 | cralor_ | dont think it is possible |
| 03:46.01 | cralor_ | (http://ace.pastey.net/ > the most recent pasteys) |
| 03:47.05 | Funkeh` | cralor_, http://ace.pastey.net/76853 means you registered this even but it doesn't have a function |
| 03:47.11 | Funkeh` | event |
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| 03:47.41 | Funkeh` | http://ace.pastey.net/76854 means you screwed something up, its a pretty obvious error |
| 03:50.51 | cralor_ | but i cant interpret what i need to do to fix these. if you didn't hear me before, i'm brand-new to coding :P i only ripped this coding from another addon i want to make this like, just for a different class |
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| 03:52.05 | Funkeh` | cralor_, can't help you much without looking at the addon code |
| 03:54.24 | hyperChipmunk | woo, bulkmail can multimail in 2.3 now |
| 03:54.40 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: woo! |
| 03:55.00 | Funkeh` | OMG |
| 03:55.02 | Funkeh` | WOOT |
| 03:55.09 | Funkeh` | ANOTHER FEATURE I WILL NEVER USE AWESOMENESS |
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| 03:55.14 | Funkeh` | <3 hyperChipmunk |
| 03:55.20 | Kemayo | `/kickban Funkeh` |
| 03:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | >8/ |
| 03:55.27 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk ilu |
| 03:55.29 | Kemayo | Ooops! |
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| 03:55.51 | hyperChipmunk | now i need to let bmi unravel multimails transparently |
| 03:56.16 | hyperChipmunk | after i tie up loose ends here |
| 03:58.20 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 03:58.59 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Do multi-item mails charge 30c per item, or a flat 30c per mail? |
| 03:59.36 | Kemayo | Oh, wait, I note the existence of GetSendMailPrice(). So it can't be flat. |
| 04:00.15 | cralor_ | u can mail more than one item in one "mailing"? |
| 04:00.20 | cralor_ | or is that coming in 2.3? |
| 04:00.22 | Kemayo | cralor_: In 2.3. |
| 04:00.26 | cralor_ | ahh... cool |
| 04:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: before 2.3, the function always returned 30 |
| 04:00.40 | cralor_ | alright guys, night. |
| 04:00.40 | hyperChipmunk | now it returns 30 times the number of items |
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| 04:01.03 | NeoTron | I think I heard of an addon that gives items values, similar to DrDamage but on a per-item basis. Anyone know what addon that might be or if I'm smoking something? :P |
| 04:04.12 | Kemayo | NeoTron: RatingBuster? |
| 04:04.29 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: you mean like, ItemValue? |
| 04:06.36 | Kemayo | Wobin: I've added custom groups into BankStack, if you want something to look at for ideas. :D |
| 04:06.57 | Wobin | in regards to how to make them user customisable? |
| 04:07.18 | Kemayo | Wobin: Yup. It does "/bankstack group [groupname] [bagid],[bagid],[bagid]" |
| 04:08.01 | Kemayo | And then "[groupname]" works as an argument to any of the slashcommands. |
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| 04:20.14 | NeoTron | ItemValue might be it |
| 04:20.25 | NeoTron | ratingbuster is nice but doesn't give an "overall" score does it? |
| 04:21.46 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 04:21.49 | NightHawkTheSane | pawn will |
| 04:21.58 | NightHawkTheSane | itemvalue seems to be a ripoff of pawn |
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| 04:49.47 | Paene | Is changing the texture of a button allowed in combat? |
| 04:50.21 | NeoTron | itemvalue doesn't have spell haste.. |
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| 05:25.38 | CIA-7 | 03next96 * r54259 10Cryolysis/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:25.38 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis: |
| 05:25.38 | CIA-7 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 06:00.33 | Neebler | http://www.minijuegosgratis.com/juegos/hwdykyworld/hwdykyworld.html |
| 06:07.26 | Kerafyrm | hmmm |
| 06:07.31 | Kerafyrm | i should watch american gangster |
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| 06:19.12 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r54260 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 6 dirs): |
| 06:19.12 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 06:19.12 | CIA-7 | - zhCN update |
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| 06:23.41 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r54261 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: |
| 06:23.41 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 06:23.41 | CIA-7 | - typo |
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| 06:30.28 | kebinusan | anyone use minichat? |
| 06:30.52 | kebinusan | well more to the point Im looking for a good chat mod to deal with minimizing windows and such |
| 06:31.00 | kebinusan | so I can have them take up less screen realestate |
| 06:31.31 | Ellipsis | if you want minimizable chat frames, minichat is your addon |
| 06:31.36 | Ellipsis | or dreamchat, but that's..yeah |
| 06:33.33 | kebinusan | yeah Im trying to figure out if its possible to attach the chatframes together I cant seem to find a way to do that, so if I have 3 of em stacked and I maximize one it goes on top of the other two |
| 06:34.33 | Ellipsis | it is |
| 06:35.19 | kebinusan | have a pointer on what Im doing wrong, or how I go about doing that |
| 06:35.54 | Ellipsis | no clue, I've never used minichat |
| 06:35.58 | Ellipsis | all I know is that it's a listed feature |
| 06:36.16 | kebinusan | yeah guess I can try and dig through the lua for insight |
| 06:37.43 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r54262 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.lua: BigWigs_NajAssist: zhCN add |
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| 06:42.06 | fridgid | clearfont2 no longer has an override list does it |
| 06:42.21 | Kirkburn | Addon overrides? Nope |
| 06:42.38 | Kirkburn | I'm not fixing other people's mistakes :P |
| 06:49.23 | CIA-7 | 03trasher * r54263 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: |
| 06:49.23 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:49.23 | CIA-7 | - Update french |
| 06:49.41 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r54264 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 06:49.41 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 06:49.41 | CIA-7 | - zhCN update |
| 06:52.20 | Diao | holy fuck |
| 06:52.28 | Diao | i jsut reflected frostbolt |
| 06:52.33 | Diao | and it crit the mage for 4.3k |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54265 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.xml): |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-7 | -Recoded mana gem button to use a menu since Secure Frames suck |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-7 | -Fixed a graphical error with the mana gem button |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-7 | -Fixed an bug preventing the buff menu's reagent text from updating |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-7 | -Removed some unused code |
| 06:53.27 | CIA-7 | -Improved the efficiency of some of the code |
| 06:59.02 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r54266 10Babble-2.2/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 06:59.02 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:59.02 | CIA-7 | -zhCN local convert UTF-8 to ansi. |
| 07:02.32 | kebinusan | whats that silly /script thing you can do to get the name of the frame you are mousing over |
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| 07:15.51 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54267 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 07:15.51 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 07:15.51 | CIA-7 | -Removed unused Saved Variables |
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| 07:24.43 | Paene | gnite all |
| 07:29.23 | Ellipsis | anyone know what causes bulkmail2 to only open one mail at a time? |
| 07:31.47 | Lukian | isn't that what it's meant to do? |
| 07:31.52 | NightHawkTheSane | failing to click the open all button? |
| 07:32.10 | Ellipsis | no, I mean clicking open all will open the first one, then clicking it again will open the next, etc. |
| 07:32.20 | NightHawkTheSane | you're doing it wrong. it works fine for me |
| 07:32.42 | Ellipsis | it works fine for me too |
| 07:32.57 | Ellipsis | but not for my bf, and I'm trying to help him fix it |
| 07:33.07 | Ellipsis | I remember someone isolated the cause but I don't know what it was :( |
| 07:33.09 | NightHawkTheSane | well, then -he's- doing it wrong |
| 07:34.31 | Ellipsis | yeah, he was |
| 07:34.36 | Ellipsis | it was BeanCounter |
| 07:44.02 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r54269 10BigWigs/ (Extras/Flash.lua Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua): BigWigs: Bugfixes, please test your commits. |
| 07:44.02 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r54270 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.lua: BigWigs_NajAssist: zhCN font |
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| 07:51.44 | Zhinjio|Drinking | Hey Ellipsis |
| 07:54.47 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r54271 10BankStack/stack.lua: BankStack: stack.lua:16: attempt to get length of local 'arg' (a nil value) |
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| 07:56.08 | Orionshock | hey all |
| 07:56.19 | Zhinjio | heya |
| 07:56.23 | Neebler | http://www.mailfreezr.com/ |
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| 07:56.44 | Neebler | thats just stupid, 10 years from now no one will have the same email they did upon the writing on the email |
| 07:57.10 | Zhinjio | I've had at least 2 email addresses that I've held for over 10 years. |
| 07:57.14 | Zhinjio | *shrug* |
| 07:57.28 | Neebler | I can just imagine someone pouring their heart and soul into a letter, only to have it be sent to a dead email address |
| 07:57.30 | Zhinjio | of course, I also own the domains. |
| 07:57.35 | Neebler | :O |
| 07:57.35 | many | i have email adresses for 10 years now |
| 07:57.58 | Zhinjio | I've had other.org and trippy.org for... shit. I don't even know how long. |
| 07:57.59 | Neebler | well it's a huge risk using that mailfreezer website |
| 07:58.10 | Zhinjio | yeah, no argument there |
| 07:58.17 | many | why do you then? :P |
| 07:58.55 | many | +use it |
| 07:59.04 | Neebler | whats the highest monetary ammount you've been offered for trippy.org? |
| 07:59.43 | Neebler | I'm just curious if people with unique 1-word websites get offers to buyout their domains often |
| 07:59.57 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 08:00.07 | Zhinjio | I don't know. maybe $1000 |
| 08:00.24 | Zhinjio | its honestly not that popular. |
| 08:00.29 | Zhinjio | I also have fedora.org |
| 08:00.30 | Neebler | maybe if it were a .com |
| 08:00.35 | Zhinjio | now that one I've been offered alot for. |
| 08:01.32 | Zhinjio | but they never actually stated amounts. they just wanted us to make a proposal, which we refused to do. |
| 08:01.50 | Neebler | that's correct, robots fighting using drills as a weapon is very awesome indeed! |
| 08:02.37 | Zhinjio | my compatriat changes that image periodically |
| 08:03.02 | Zhinjio | I hadn't seen that one yet, honestly. |
| 08:03.04 | Neebler | one last question. out of curiosity why even hold on to the domain? |
| 08:03.06 | Zhinjio | I don't keep track anymore. |
| 08:03.31 | Lukian | Wobin, ping? :) |
| 08:03.44 | Zhinjio | *shrug* ... stubbornness? cool factor? waiting for a completely silly offer? lunacy? |
| 08:03.51 | Neebler | hah |
| 08:03.59 | Wobin | Lukian: yoho |
| 08:04.04 | Neebler | cant believe you turned down a proposal! |
| 08:04.18 | Zhinjio | if someone came up to use and said "we'll give you a million dollars for fedora.org, we'd fall over like dominoes. |
| 08:04.21 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 08:04.27 | Lukian | Wobin, the rested xp display in fuxpfu is very odd when it overlaps the end of the level |
| 08:04.29 | Zhinjio | but, that hasn't happened yet |
| 08:04.31 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 08:04.43 | Wobin | ss it for me? |
| 08:04.56 | Lukian | oh just the value |
| 08:05.09 | Lukian | it changes from like 100% + 6% to 100% + 17% |
| 08:05.15 | Lukian | it kinda defies logic |
| 08:05.31 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r673 10/trunk/ControlFreak/ (5 files): ControlFreak - Changed to own block code instead of LegoBlock... Lego just had way too much stuff I didn't need. |
| 08:08.48 | Lukian | hmm maybe it's fine and I just need to use my brain |
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| 08:15.39 | Orionshock | wth is lego brick? |
| 08:15.46 | Orionshock | *LegoBlock |
| 08:20.25 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54272 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: koKR update |
| 08:23.33 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r674 10/trunk/ControlFreak/ (ControlFreak.lua Block.lua): ControlFreak - Give the block a global name so people can macro the damn thing. |
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| 08:41.46 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r54273 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: |
| 08:41.46 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 08:41.46 | CIA-7 | - zhCN typo |
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| 08:48.37 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r675 10/tags/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Tagging ControlFreak-2.2.0.674 |
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| 08:53.16 | cncfanatics | kaiden, ping ? |
| 08:53.26 | cncfanatics | ~seen kaiden |
| 08:53.33 | purl | kaiden <n=sabayonu@c-67-170-78-181.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 1d 4h 22m 5s ago, saying: 'Question for you fine people since the people talking in my distro channel dont seem to be all there, I did a install of sabayon and for some reason the grub portion messed up and i can't boot, does anyone know of a graphical grub ... |
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| 09:10.08 | CIA-7 | 03hegarol * r54274 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 09:10.08 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 09:10.08 | CIA-7 | - ZA update |
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| 09:19.43 | TOmat0 | WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! |
| 09:19.51 | TOmat0 | WRAARRRR!!! I has the Cookies Tooo! WRAARRRR!!! |
| 09:19.55 | TOmat0 | WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! |
| 09:20.00 | Ellipsis | k diaf plzkthx |
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| 09:20.11 | [Ammo] | damn |
| 09:20.15 | [Ammo] | I was too late with the kickban |
| 09:20.20 | Ellipsis | better luck next time |
| 09:21.15 | Fisker- | WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! |
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| 09:21.19 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.22 | Fisker- | WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! |
| 09:21.33 | [Ammo] | kickban Fisker- bye |
| 09:21.41 | Fisker- | crap |
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| 09:21.50 | Fisker- | i can't remember how to leave the channel :< |
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| 09:22.02 | Ellipsis | /part #wowace |
| 09:22.12 | Fisker- | didn't work |
| 09:22.18 | Ellipsis | then you're doing it wrong |
| 09:22.22 | Fisker- | i'm not |
| 09:22.22 | Ellipsis | you can always /quit :) |
| 09:22.26 | Fisker- | nevers |
| 09:22.41 | Ellipsis | the correct response to that was "I wish I could /quit you" |
| 09:22.52 | Fisker- | no u |
| 09:22.53 | Ellipsis | sorry sir, but you lose |
| 09:24.13 | CIA-7 | 03hegarol * r54275 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (6 files): |
| 09:24.13 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:24.13 | CIA-7 | - Heroic changes for 2.3 |
| 09:24.14 | CIA-7 | 03hegarol * r54276 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 09:24.14 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 09:24.14 | CIA-7 | - Heroic changes for 2.3 |
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| 09:45.57 | Diao | o_o |
| 09:46.39 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54277 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: typo fix |
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| 09:54.57 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r54278 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: bugfix hyjal wave code, learn2scope |
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| 09:57.44 | Fisker- | ~seen zealotonastick |
| 09:57.47 | purl | zealotonastick <n=ZOAS@c-69-246-217-192.hsd1.in.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3d 6h 55m 21s ago, saying: 'explain it to us then.'. |
| 09:58.13 | Kerafyrm | shh its Fisker- |
| 10:02.20 | silentium | any ideas why my cartographer (with mining) has stopped recording new map notes when I mine nodes it hasnt seen before? I've already tried deleting all cartographer* SV, but it still doesnt save new map notes for stuff I gather :/ |
| 10:02.51 | Ellipsis | silentium: if you're using cowtip, disable the immediate hiding on world objects |
| 10:04.15 | silentium | good guess, will try that :) |
| 10:10.40 | silentium | yay, it works :D Ellipsis, you're my heroine of the day! |
| 10:12.15 | Ellipsis | always happy to help =] |
| 10:16.28 | Srosh | lua> 2.5/3.5 |
| 10:16.28 | cladbot | Srosh: 0.71428571428571 |
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| 10:28.22 | Tekkub | *grumble |
| 10:28.30 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 10:28.32 | Tekkub | why do you always lose SOMETHING in a move? |
| 10:28.35 | Orionshock | Tekkub: wtf is LegoBlock? |
| 10:28.42 | Tekkub | a lib |
| 10:29.10 | Orionshock | you dongle ppl , always hiding in the rocks |
| 10:29.26 | Ellipsis | same reason you always lose one sock when you do laundry? |
| 10:29.30 | nevcairiel | isnt LegoBlock libstub? |
| 10:29.32 | Tekkub | never rock here, thanks |
| 10:29.57 | Tekkub | so Ellipsis, my cockring is hanging out with my left socks? |
| 10:30.06 | Xuerian | How badly is cartographer_mining broken... >.> |
| 10:30.36 | Ellipsis | well, honestly I don't know for sure, because I haven't been stealing either |
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| 10:34.12 | Srosh | lua> 3/3.5 |
| 10:34.13 | cladbot | Srosh: 0.85714285714286 |
| 10:34.57 | Orionshock | BigWigs_Extras\Flash.lua:71: unexpected symbol near '?' |
| 10:35.07 | Tekkub | lua> collectgarbage("stop"); for i=1,10000 do local t = {} end |
| 10:35.07 | cladbot | Tekkub: |
| 10:35.19 | Tekkub | bah |
| 10:36.05 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: are you up2date? looks right to me in the source |
| 10:36.27 | Orionshock | r54026 |
| 10:36.45 | nevcairiel | update |
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| 11:08.13 | CIA-7 | 03trasher * r54280 10PoisonMenu/PoisonMenu.toc: |
| 11:08.13 | CIA-7 | PoisonMenu: |
| 11:08.13 | CIA-7 | - Update toc 20300 |
| 11:09.25 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54281 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 11:09.25 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: |
| 11:09.25 | CIA-7 | - koKR update |
| 11:09.25 | CIA-7 | - please check for latest update before commiting in order to prevent undoing other people's work :) |
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| 11:10.21 | Orionshock | note to 7destiny... i didn't think that was posibal |
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| 11:21.59 | Orionshock | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1443 |
| 11:22.05 | Orionshock | how much u think it's worth now? |
| 11:26.15 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt pay a cent for it |
| 11:26.17 | nevcairiel | tbh |
| 11:26.17 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 11:26.36 | Orionshock | 200/300 |
| 11:27.07 | Ellipsis | I'd pay shard value! |
| 11:27.33 | nevcairiel | i can understand people buying low lvl epic weapons |
| 11:27.35 | Orionshock | guild was doing ubrs as part of the Ony chain and it droped |
| 11:27.36 | nevcairiel | for faster elveling |
| 11:27.41 | nevcairiel | *leveling |
| 11:27.43 | nevcairiel | but that? |
| 11:31.08 | Kerafyrm | Hmmm.. I wonder if the guild vault stack withdrawl limit is per character or account? |
| 11:31.57 | Gnarfoz | or4n: of course that's possible |
| 11:32.01 | Gnarfoz | Orionshock even |
| 11:32.11 | Orionshock | ?? |
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| 11:34.03 | theoddone33 | got a shockwave truncheon :) :) :) |
| 11:34.11 | theoddone33 | smoothest heroic SL ever |
| 11:34.20 | theoddone33 | 18k health raid tank helps |
| 11:35.58 | Orionshock | question , 2.3 , will the s1 weapons be available too for honor or just the set pieces? |
| 11:36.12 | Iceroth | heh it's amazing how much smoother heroics can be when ppl are at T5 lvl :p |
| 11:36.21 | Iceroth | weapons too afaik |
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| 11:37.46 | CIA-7 | - Add French Translation (by Trasher ;D) |
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| 11:38.06 | theoddone33 | healing SL with this group was way easier than healing heroic ramparts the other week |
| 11:38.16 | theoddone33 | but spriest nerfs everything |
| 11:39.09 | theoddone33 | was funny though |
| 11:39.16 | theoddone33 | two people died when murmur was at 18% |
| 11:39.22 | theoddone33 | and the fight became easier |
| 11:39.55 | theoddone33 | another guy got picked off and we did the last 3 or 4 percent with just tank and healer |
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| 11:47.22 | mort | heroic sl is a cakewalk |
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| 12:21.55 | Orionshock | can u change the font sizes of things on the game tool tip |
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| 13:07.52 | Lukian | Kemayo, ping |
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| 13:08.17 | Lukian | re: ToFu, Ariena Stormfeather in BS? |
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| 13:08.48 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
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| 13:28.01 | Orionshock | if u don't know who Ony is or if your not key'ed - then u don't belong in KZ; it's just Upright and Disrespectful and rude to the thousands of raiders that came before you that suffered though all that for TBC to fuck em over in a heartbeat. |
| 13:28.31 | Orionshock | & Have a nice day :D |
| 13:28.33 | haste_ | now that was a random comment |
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| 13:34.20 | adden | I need some advise.. I want to look at an addon other then atlas that loads an image |
| 13:34.54 | Xuerian | Orionshock: Hahaha so freaking true |
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| 13:40.44 | Orionshock | Xuerian: what part the Ony KZ link or TBC fking over every Nax Raider in a heartbeat? |
| 13:41.01 | Xuerian | Well, both |
| 13:42.10 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.17 | Orionshock | it's more about respect than anything. |
| 13:42.40 | haste_ | T2 is so BWL |
| 13:43.19 | Tse | that makes no sense. there are plenty of "new" people who play better than 99% of the "old school raiders" lol |
| 13:43.21 | Nefarion | anyone else having issues with warcraftmovies.com? |
| 13:43.37 | cncfanatics | Orionshock |
| 13:43.50 | cncfanatics | if someone wears T2 he's either a roleplayer or an idiot |
| 13:43.50 | Orionshock | i'd like to see some of these Gruuls lair teams take down BWL and walk away with a 100g repair bill and nothing more than razorgore down and wiping on veal |
| 13:44.06 | cncfanatics | why compare an entry level 25 man raid to BWL ? |
| 13:44.09 | cncfanatics | at least compare it to MC |
| 13:44.29 | Tse | most raidss cant take down mag, so who cares? |
| 13:45.09 | Orionshock | MC is a snore and if u can't do it on AutoRun then u shouldn't be playing |
| 13:45.12 | Tse | there's no entitlement, sorry |
| 13:45.35 | Tse | zomg we sucked in bwl for like 6 months so we oughta bypass those who didnt! ;-p |
| 13:46.11 | Orionshock | fuck entitlement, all im saying is that I at least have more respect for an old school raider that paied his dues in BWL / Nax / AQ40 than some new smuck that joined at TBC |
| 13:46.48 | Orionshock | and has little to no raid experiance :P |
| 13:46.50 | Tse | whatever. that new schmuck may be a friend of a hardcore player and better than all the idiots who "paid their dues" whiping on razorgore for months and unable to clear gruul |
| 13:47.21 | Orionshock | well ofc Tse all things in consideration, |
| 13:47.48 | Kerafyrm | imho, there should be some respect to old skewl folks who suffered thru 40man raids, period.. lol |
| 13:47.49 | cncfanatics | I'm an oldschool BWL/AQ40 raider |
| 13:47.50 | Orionshock | in order to be called an old school raider - you have to have accomplished something, and wiping on bosses dosn't count |
| 13:47.51 | Tse | it's a tad bitter and silly to be like "ZOMG RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL" for competent new players in competent guilds |
| 13:47.57 | cncfanatics | tbh, I don't care wether someone started with TBC or not |
| 13:48.20 | Tse | bottom line is... if your guild cant break out of kz/gruul/mag... dont fuckin whine about new players in guilds who can =) |
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| 13:48.52 | Tse | perhaps the new guilds have fresh perspective and higher expectations of their raiders |
| 13:48.59 | Kerafyrm | i will admit there is a certain dis-respect from people who are new to the game(post-tbc) towards pre-tbc raiders. |
| 13:49.06 | Orionshock | Competent or not, one must pay respects to those that came before and suffered though what was to make what is now. |
| 13:49.21 | Tse | a LOT of "old school" bwl guilds have a shitload of incompetent players and now cant breakt rhough the gruul/mag idiot and dps checks |
| 13:49.26 | Kerafyrm | Perhaps "pay respects" is the wrong term, Orionshock |
| 13:49.27 | Orionshock | that's like a universal truth |
| 13:49.30 | Tse | no, you do not have to "pay respect" lol |
| 13:49.32 | Kerafyrm | acknowledge? |
| 13:49.35 | Kerafyrm | perhaps |
| 13:49.41 | cncfanatics | Tse, mine was one of them, I ended up rerolling on another server, I'm 61 now :p |
| 13:49.45 | Tse | pay respect to the people playing the game and caring, regardless of their background |
| 13:50.03 | Orionshock | paying respect in the form of actualy going and doing the instance at least once |
| 13:50.14 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 13:50.15 | Orionshock | that's all i ask |
| 13:50.20 | Tse | whatever |
| 13:50.39 | Orionshock | Tse: who the fuck brought in Gruul and Mag kills? wft ? |
| 13:50.53 | Orionshock | dude pull your head out of your ass and scroll up and read what i initaly said |
| 13:50.59 | Orionshock | ... wft is wrong with you |
| 13:51.01 | Tse | honestly, ALL the new players i know would love to do aw40, naxx, ony, etc... |
| 13:51.08 | Tse | so i dont even know what you're talking about |
| 13:51.33 | Tse | in fact, i know quite a few that _have_ gone back to run bwl, ony, etc |
| 13:52.04 | Orionshock | i'll tell you - head to Org / SW and start a pug for Ony and see how many ask "What is Ony" "Do u need to be keyed" "Can i go" from lvl 40's and 70's alike |
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| 13:52.18 | Kerafyrm | 5-7 nights a week with 39 other people on vent, THAT deserves the respect of anyone... lol |
| 13:52.28 | Tse | orion, so what? |
| 13:52.32 | Tse | what are you even whining about? |
| 13:52.47 | Tse | there are 9 million players. it's an active game with new players all the time. you're whining about this? |
| 13:52.54 | many | kera: that deserves respect? that deserves calling people who will treat them with medicine :P |
| 13:52.56 | Orionshock | there is no respect for a long established tradition of the game.. it's just lost |
| 13:53.09 | Kerafyrm | many: respect + medicine? |
| 13:53.10 | Kerafyrm | :P |
| 13:53.16 | Tse | you mean your guild cant kill gruul and it pisses you off there are others out there with new players? |
| 13:53.37 | Orionshock | Tse: ?? didn't mention gruul at all , why do u keep brining it up? |
| 13:53.46 | Orionshock | ???? |
| 13:53.57 | Tse | <Orionshock> i'd like to see some of these Gruuls lair teams take down BWL and walk away with a 100g repair bill and nothing more than razorgore down and wiping on veal |
| 13:54.04 | many | kery: medicine + pity ;-) |
| 13:54.12 | Kerafyrm | many: awwww.. lol |
| 13:54.28 | Orionshock | ya that was a slant at those ppl for not being able to understand how raid encounters work. |
| 13:54.31 | Kerafyrm | how about medicine and free therapy? |
| 13:54.44 | many | thatd be uber |
| 13:54.49 | Orionshock | or where .. like most of them came from |
| 13:54.54 | Kerafyrm | edit: ...40-man raid encounters work. |
| 13:54.55 | Tse | see, you keep going on about "long traditions" but the longest tradition in raiding is that you take in competent people regardless of how long theyve been playing |
| 13:55.21 | Tse | if you are stuck in kara, dont cry about "respect" |
| 13:55.36 | Matrix110 | edrama on the internetz call the carebears! |
| 13:55.39 | Tse | ;-p |
| 13:56.15 | Orionshock | Tse: did u get burned by people bitching - you seem to be putting alot of emotional attachment into something so trivial? do u need some drugs? im sure we can find some for you |
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| 13:56.24 | Kerafyrm | being stuck in kara is attributed to a couple of things a) small guild, with no recruiting drive, b) general lack of will to fight for progress and learn the new content. |
| 13:56.28 | Tse | emotional attachment? listen to yourself |
| 13:56.53 | many | pse not |
| 13:57.04 | Tse | i mean... you're whining about how it's disrespectful and rude to be in Kara if you never went to Ony. lol |
| 13:57.07 | Kerafyrm | I hear from members all the time saying they "don't want to learn the boss fights" they just want to show up and get loots. |
| 13:57.07 | Orionshock | lol |
| 13:57.10 | Orionshock | im being facetious |
| 13:57.28 | cncfanatics | Kerafyrm, gkick that scum ? |
| 13:57.36 | Kerafyrm | cncfanatics: quicker then you can bat an eye |
| 13:57.37 | Orionshock | aperantly you haven't listened to me very much on IRC... |
| 13:57.59 | Tse | kera, those people dont belong in the raid if you want progression. if it's social, then whatever |
| 13:58.02 | Orionshock | I poke fun at everyone and everything all the time. |
| 13:58.08 | cncfanatics | anyway, I need an oppinion on something, me & 3 friends are rerolling on kazzak planning to create a raiding guild at 70, do we even have a chance ? (going hardcore) |
| 13:58.14 | many | i want to be there and have an experience. learning is done as side effect, loot is also. i need *reliable* people who are able to use their brain |
| 13:58.18 | Tse | Orionshock, fine. And im poking fun of your statements ;-p |
| 13:58.23 | many | everything else is... well. side effect ;) |
| 13:58.42 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: what's hard core mean? |
| 13:58.43 | Kerafyrm | agreed |
| 13:59.02 | Orionshock | ... if there is hardcore raiding, what's softcore raiding? |
| 13:59.07 | cncfanatics | 4-5 raids a week fully potted Orionshock, not counting 10 mans |
| 13:59.20 | Orionshock | 2xBosses 1/2 th ammount of wiping? |
| 13:59.21 | Kerafyrm | wow hardcore is 4-5 raids/week now? |
| 13:59.31 | many | i mean, cmon iam leveling my alt currenty and we were in BRT. within 30 minutes 2 out of 5 people out of the sudden had to go. wtf? |
| 13:59.31 | Tse | cncfanatics, starting a raiding guild takes a lot of work and commitment. if it's just 4 of you, you may do better gearing up and looking to join a good raiding guild together |
| 13:59.38 | Kerafyrm | hardcore used to be 7days a week, multiple raids per day |
| 13:59.47 | Tse | many top tier guilds only raid 4 days a week |
| 13:59.48 | Orionshock | so hardcore is half the ammount of bosses and twice the ammount of wiping? |
| 13:59.54 | Orionshock | :D |
| 14:00.20 | cncfanatics | why would you want to raid more then 4 days a week in TBC ? |
| 14:00.40 | Tse | unless you're pushing to kill illidan or something, it isnt needed |
| 14:00.56 | Tse | although in fairness, the kara/gruul/mag stage kinda forces you to raid more |
| 14:01.07 | Orionshock | F that, raid 3 nights a week, then spend at least one other night away from wow not playing at all and the rest of the time doing dailies and pvp |
| 14:01.34 | Orionshock | a nice rounded exposure that won't burn you out as fast |
| 14:01.40 | cncfanatics | I'm fine with raids 5 days a week and 2 nights off WoW |
| 14:01.43 | Kerafyrm | kara is a one day stop for our guild now.. the kick to the nuts is getting the 22 people online the day after kara is cleared to wanna goto Gruuls/Mag |
| 14:02.16 | Tse | well, when you hit a "wall" in progression... folsk stop showing up |
| 14:02.26 | Tse | lowered expectations is a bitch |
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| 14:02.37 | Kerafyrm | we've been into gruul's a few times.. HKM fell on our 4th attempt |
| 14:02.45 | Kerafyrm | gruul's has been tough since not everyone is geared enough yet |
| 14:02.55 | cncfanatics | why even care about gruul ? some well organized pugs can kill him |
| 14:02.57 | Kerafyrm | progression is there, motivation is NOT! |
| 14:03.11 | Tse | cnc, gruul requires people not to be stupid |
| 14:03.19 | Tse | it's the big "idiot check" |
| 14:03.38 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 14:03.57 | Kerafyrm | with 2.3 everyone is excited to have another 10man, but we're gonna say, kara cleared first, then gruul's, if gruul's dosn't at least have 1 days attendance, no ZA for that week. |
| 14:03.58 | Tse | mag's less of an idiot check, more of a gear/dps check for the first minute |
| 14:04.08 | JoshBorke | lua> 60*80-600 |
| 14:04.08 | cladbot | JoshBorke: 4200 |
| 14:04.08 | Kerafyrm | prolly gonna loose half the guild, but oh well |
| 14:04.45 | cncfanatics | kerafyrm, server & continent |
| 14:04.46 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 14:04.47 | Tse | i havent tried za yet, but my impression is that folks who cant kill gruul aint about to go in there and kick ass whatsoever |
| 14:05.17 | JoshBorke | lua> 52*2+13 |
| 14:05.17 | cladbot | JoshBorke: 117 |
| 14:05.30 | cncfanatics | ZA ain't even half as casual friendly as karazhan is btw |
| 14:05.34 | cncfanatics | the timed event is hardcore |
| 14:05.43 | cncfanatics | and the bosses aren't that easy either |
| 14:05.48 | Tse | so im told |
| 14:05.48 | cncfanatics | though they're doable with kara gear |
| 14:07.12 | Kerafyrm | za isn't easy, but its not out of the reach of kara geared folks |
| 14:07.33 | Tse | well |
| 14:07.35 | Tse | frankly |
| 14:07.46 | Tse | anybody still in kara who's been in kara for more than a month... has issues |
| 14:07.55 | Tse | it isnt just a gear issue |
| 14:08.18 | Tse | it's november. a guild shouldnt still be in kara unless they are new |
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| 14:08.22 | Kerafyrm | yes and no |
| 14:08.41 | Kerafyrm | there are slow progression guilds.. casual as it were |
| 14:08.48 | Tse | doesnt matter |
| 14:08.54 | Tse | there are "casual" guilds in TK |
| 14:09.06 | cncfanatics | also |
| 14:09.06 | Kerafyrm | not saying that progression as a casual guild isn't possible |
| 14:09.15 | cncfanatics | it ain't *that* easy to get 35ish decent raiders |
| 14:09.28 | cncfanatics | though for a casual guild they don't even have to be decent, 35 randoms will do :p |
| 14:10.05 | Kerafyrm | but if a casual guild only raids 1 or 2 nights a week due to no raiding requirement or whatnot, your gonna be in kara for >1month |
| 14:10.36 | Tse | there are 2 types of casual guilds. those that suck balls and arent really raiding guilds. and those that do raid and progress |
| 14:10.42 | cncfanatics | kara can be cleared with a blue geared grp in one night tbh |
| 14:10.53 | Tse | the issue isnt casual or not. it's whether your a real raiding guild |
| 14:11.11 | Tse | going into kara 2 times a week and wiping all night for months != raiding guild |
| 14:11.11 | Kerafyrm | the guild i'm in falls into the latter.. we do raid and we do progress, just slowly.. lol |
| 14:11.43 | Tse | yes, cnc, blue geared raid with decent leader and minimally competent players can clear kara in a night |
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| 14:13.48 | Kerafyrm | define 'a night' |
| 14:13.49 | Kerafyrm | 4 hours? |
| 14:14.18 | Tse | like 5 hours |
| 14:14.31 | Tse | i havent been in kara since like... april/may |
| 14:15.49 | Tse | when i hear friends talking about failing in kara, it always turns out that they have 1) shitty class compositions 2) a number of people that just simply dont cut it performance-wise, and a guild that rationalizes this in the name of "being casual" |
| 14:16.18 | Tse | my guild was very casual at the start of TBC and went up to mag before splitting off |
| 14:16.43 | Kerafyrm | Tse: I think you this the nail on the head as much as it pains me to admit it.. lol |
| 14:16.58 | Kerafyrm | this = hit |
| 14:17.15 | Tse | it sucks, cuz i realize some hguilds even frown on dps/healing meters as "too stressful" and shit |
| 14:17.24 | Tse | or just try to fit whoever is online into a raid |
| 14:17.53 | Kivin | =| My kara group is as casual as they get, and we've got Attumen, Moroes, Maiden, Curator, Chess(duh) on farm status in about two weeks. |
| 14:17.54 | Tse | to some extent, you can get by in kara with that approcah but then you hit the gruul wall |
| 14:17.56 | Kivin | I feel bad for those said guilds |
| 14:18.38 | Tse | i forget all the names. who's the guy after curator? |
| 14:18.44 | Kerafyrm | we we're at the point where we'd just try to get anyone into the raid so there would be a raid.. |
| 14:18.51 | Kivin | Aran and Illhoof are after curator |
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| 14:19.04 | Tse | shade of aran, yea. that's the first real "test" of raids |
| 14:19.22 | Kivin | we wiped him 4x last week, and downed him first try this week, with only 3 members still alive |
| 14:19.34 | Tse | and i hate to say it, but if a guild doesnt have basically 2 kara groups able to farm kara... and cant kill gruul... they're gonna get fucked in za =( |
| 14:19.39 | Kivin | so I don't really call that a win.. but we'll get em farm status soon |
| 14:19.44 | Tse | heh |
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| 14:20.21 | Tse | that is another thing that happens, is that one group of mroe serious raiders make their own "team a" kara group and the rest of the guild gets into shitty kara groups which never improve |
| 14:20.35 | Tse | then the guild goes into gruul and wonders why they are stuck |
| 14:20.40 | Kerafyrm | We've got one group who can 1-day kara, and the 2nd group can only get about 2/3rds of the way thru in 1 day |
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| 14:21.04 | Kerafyrm | the problem is then getting both groups online at the same time for 25-man content |
| 14:21.29 | Tse | our leaders cut that off at the start, forcing people to post their week schedule in advance. they then mixed/matched players to get 2 solid groups for kara for ther week |
| 14:21.33 | Kivin | can't possibly be as bad as trying to field 40 people for Tier 1-3 content |
| 14:21.41 | Kerafyrm | btw, tse i'm taking this log and posting it to my leadership boards :P |
| 14:22.06 | Tse | actually, organizing 1 40man group is easier than organizing 2 kara groups. imo that was the design flaw of TBC and it has killed a lot of guilds |
| 14:22.15 | Kerafyrm | yup |
| 14:22.20 | Kivin | Agreed... |
| 14:22.20 | Tse | the kara idea was nice, but having it as the gateway into gruul = death to many guilds |
| 14:22.43 | Kerafyrm | tse: are you a leader(raid or otherwise) for your guild? |
| 14:22.45 | Tse | my guild got burnt out, stuck on mag for like 4 weeks |
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| 14:23.16 | Tse | no |
| 14:23.25 | Kerafyrm | just a plain jane member? |
| 14:23.46 | Ellipsis | w00t |
| 14:23.53 | Ellipsis | officially over 1k shadow damage (finally) |
| 14:23.58 | Kerafyrm | grats |
| 14:23.58 | Tse | ya, this guild im talking about was a very strong social guild. when we broke up, it was cuz one of the two leaders quit wow |
| 14:24.10 | Kerafyrm | ahh |
| 14:24.16 | Tse | so the core chunk of committed raiders went to another guild who's now in BT |
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| 14:24.20 | CIA-7 | - Droprate for "Seal of Ascension" gems fixed |
| 14:24.34 | Kerafyrm | i'm tempted to hire you as a consultant.. the whole office space thing except with a benefical purpose instead.. :P |
| 14:24.57 | Tse | the funny thing was, we had people in a few really good guilds initially and realized finally what was wrong |
| 14:25.18 | ag`_ | Tse, what server |
| 14:25.25 | Tse | when we went into mag with these 3 new guilds, it was like... holy fuck |
| 14:25.27 | Tse | malganis |
| 14:25.27 | Kerafyrm | well.. you just put a good idea into my head, and thats pick what people are one what raids |
| 14:25.40 | ag`_ | ok |
| 14:25.48 | Tse | the 3 guilds... aurora, ascent and aeturnus. not exactly scrubs =) |
| 14:26.12 | Kerafyrm | yet another guild names after the town i grew up in.. lol |
| 14:26.13 | many | scrubs |
| 14:26.15 | Kerafyrm | named* |
| 14:26.18 | Tse | we all laughed tho as how easy mag seemed in these new guilds, and it was purely because the dps was like 10000% better |
| 14:26.39 | Tse | we NEVER imagined that our old guild's dps sucked |
| 14:26.49 | Tse | we thought it was like... our strat, the healing, etc |
| 14:27.14 | Tse | but in the end, the guild just simply had too many slackers |
| 14:27.29 | Tse | this was pre-mag nerf |
| 14:28.18 | Tse | <Kerafyrm> well.. you just put a good idea into my head, and thats pick what people are one what raids <-- if we hadnt split people into 2 balanced groups, one would have eventualy broken away sooner and we'd never have even killed gruul |
| 14:28.52 | Tse | the goal isnt merely to clear or farm kara, as much as to gear up a balanced 25man group for the future |
| 14:29.09 | Tse | coordinating that is a bitch |
| 14:29.37 | Grum | Can you automaticly set up groups using the Blizz API? |
| 14:29.43 | Grum | or is that 'manual intervention required' ? |
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| 14:33.37 | JoshBorke | grum: out of combat |
| 14:34.07 | Dezzi | no you can do it in combat |
| 14:34.11 | Grum | yeah |
| 14:34.16 | JoshBorke | automatically? |
| 14:34.18 | Grum | but for some reason my 'raid screen' has gone blank |
| 14:34.19 | Dezzi | you just need to use the blizz raid configurer |
| 14:34.34 | Grum | prolly by some 3rd party addon taint |
| 14:34.42 | Grum | k so in-combat its manually |
| 14:34.52 | Dezzi | yeah so that reliquary of souls combat bug |
| 14:35.03 | Dezzi | makes for UI fun :( |
| 14:35.09 | Grum | how do you mean? |
| 14:35.31 | Dezzi | especially when your raid leader is like "fuck it lets do trash" when half the raid is bugged in combat |
| 14:36.04 | Dezzi | a bunch of us tried alt+f4ing to break combat and we all came back |
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| 14:36.12 | Dezzi | missing raid frames etc |
| 14:36.14 | Dezzi | lol |
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| 15:10.17 | Obelixprime | why when i have self.Print("blah blah blah") wow outputs blah blah blah:nil |
| 15:10.52 | JoshBorke | Obelixprime: because you sohuld be doing: self:Print("blah blah blah") |
| 15:11.10 | JoshBorke | by doing self.Print you are passing "blah blah blah" as the addon name |
| 15:11.19 | Nefarion | am i the only one that things this kinda pvp is way too rare in modern WoW? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=946987698215146643&q=warcraft+site%3Avideo.google.com&total=9929&start=0&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=0 |
| 15:11.30 | Wobin | er addon object |
| 15:11.34 | Nefarion | some awesome world pvp just for the fun of it |
| 15:14.29 | Fisker- | massive fail Nefarion |
| 15:14.38 | Nefarion | ? |
| 15:14.58 | Fisker- | the movie |
| 15:15.02 | Nefarion | how so? |
| 15:15.42 | Fisker- | Zul'Aman won't bring back world pvp |
| 15:15.51 | Fisker- | as he himself said "People were asked to show up" |
| 15:16.00 | Fisker- | It could be any other place in the world |
| 15:16.01 | Nefarion | you miss the point |
| 15:16.06 | Fisker- | No i don't |
| 15:16.10 | Fisker- | Instances usually force pvp |
| 15:16.14 | Nefarion | i never said anything about zul'aman. i want general world pvp back. |
| 15:16.17 | Fisker- | because they're a congestion point for many people |
| 15:16.23 | Fisker- | that's the point of the movie |
| 15:16.36 | Fisker- | That somehow removing guards from Zul'Aman will save world pvp |
| 15:16.38 | Chompers | Fisker- :D |
| 15:16.42 | Nefarion | put the title and description out of your mind. refer to what *I* said, not the movie. it's a mre example. |
| 15:16.46 | Chompers | slash hug |
| 15:16.48 | Fisker- | you gonna get castrated |
| 15:16.51 | Nefarion | it isn't that hard. just requires a little brain power man |
| 15:17.08 | Fisker- | am i the only one that things this kinda pvp is way too rare in modern WoW? |
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| 15:17.10 | Fisker- | case closed |
| 15:17.24 | Nefarion | yes, that kidna pvp. open and epic world pvp. |
| 15:17.30 | Fisker- | I'm not a mind reader |
| 15:17.35 | Fisker- | You told me to read what you wrote |
| 15:17.35 | Fisker- | i did |
| 15:17.39 | Nefarion | it seemed pretty plain to me |
| 15:17.49 | Fisker- | You didn't write anything specific that would cause me to believe any different |
| 15:18.10 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 15:18.17 | Fisker- | Stop, RAPETIEM |
| 15:18.21 | Chompers | oh noes |
| 15:18.23 | Fisker- | can't not touch this |
| 15:18.48 | Chompers | sorry Fisker-, but i must steal that joke |
| 15:19.03 | Chompers | it will make me awesome-cool in guild chat |
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| 15:21.14 | ag`_ | I think that the biggest problem with WoW is that it feels like an amusement park... You go around this happy well-kept landscape trying out the different rollercoasters and merry-go-rounds... But when you're done, what the hell did you achieve? |
| 15:21.38 | JoshBorke | ag`_: mods :-D |
| 15:21.46 | ag`_ | yes |
| 15:21.58 | ag`_ | coding addons is fun |
| 15:22.06 | Wobin | It's the only thing keeping me playing it |
| 15:22.25 | ag`_ | but I mean the world feels so empty, there's no real player interaction |
| 15:23.05 | ag`_ | and when there is it's either 1. instanced and contained or 2. in front of a pve instance portal |
| 15:23.43 | JoshBorke | i run into people all the time |
| 15:23.48 | Chompers | same |
| 15:23.51 | Chompers | then they steal my mobs |
| 15:23.53 | JoshBorke | i think it has to do with server population |
| 15:24.06 | ag`_ | My server is huge, that's not the problem |
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| 15:26.44 | Fin | Kemayo: babies! |
| 15:27.32 | Fisker- | no it's not ag`_ :< |
| 15:28.25 | Nefarion | ag`_: nah, i think the biggest problem is that they've tried to keep it too organized. sure i see the point of organized reward structure but they need to introduce the element of real world war back to the game. |
| 15:28.26 | Fin | for addon in Kemayo:ListAddons() do Fin:HaveBabies(Kemayo, lovechild) done |
| 15:28.45 | Fin | s/done/end/ |
| 15:29.19 | nevcairiel | i hear ya |
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| 15:29.32 | ag`_ | Nefarion, that is what I was talking about, it's way too organized, feels like an amusement park |
| 15:30.40 | Nefarion | i agree with keeping in arena but i think they need to focus on more than just one concept in the system. right now arena dominates as THE form of pvp. i think they need to bring back BGs and world pvp as equal parts in this, each with unique and well-worth-it rewards. |
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| 15:31.47 | Nefarion | i don't think the idea that "wow is balanced around arena" shouldn't come up. and i think it should be more like "you want good gear but all you're doing is one form of pvp?" |
| 15:32.00 | Nefarion | should** |
| 15:32.32 | Nefarion | maybe throw in personal ratings too. why should arena be the deciding point in pvp success. |
| 15:33.36 | JoshBorke | because BG pvp doesn't take nearly as much skill? |
| 15:33.55 | Nefarion | doesn't mean it can't be fixed |
| 15:34.35 | Nefarion | i get the idea that bg pvp was meant to bring the idea of group play to pvp, but when they realized it never really played out as a group they dumped it in favor of arena. |
| 15:34.42 | Nefarion | instead of trying to fix it. |
| 15:37.26 | Fisker- | could be fun to see something like 10v10 "arenas" |
| 15:37.53 | Nefarion | it would be nice to see other brackets but going that large in a single step may be a mistake |
| 15:38.04 | Chompers | how about pve - pvp |
| 15:38.11 | Nefarion | explain? |
| 15:38.25 | Chompers | 20 people join in and work together to defeat waves of pve enemies |
| 15:38.43 | Chompers | with bosses after a certain number of waves |
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| 15:38.52 | Fisker- | what about |
| 15:38.55 | Fisker- | "Fragile Alliance" |
| 15:38.57 | Nefarion | that's not pvp though |
| 15:38.59 | Nefarion | that's pve |
| 15:39.04 | Fisker- | 20 people join in and work together to defeat waves of pve enemies |
| 15:39.09 | Fisker- | then you steal all the loot |
| 15:39.22 | Fisker- | and then you betray each other |
| 15:39.37 | Fisker- | the betrayed spawns as a SWAT-team member with guns |
| 15:39.41 | Nefarion | if it were up to me i'd have more radical forms of pvp: town sacking and even town stealing, massive city wars, building destruction. |
| 15:39.45 | Grum | lua> not nil, not false, not true |
| 15:39.45 | cladbot | Grum: true, true, false |
| 15:39.48 | Nefarion | but wow won't go that way |
| 15:39.53 | Fisker- | the more you betray the better reward |
| 15:40.14 | Chompers | realm vs realm perhaps Nefarion? |
| 15:40.32 | Grum | lua> not not nil, not not false, not not true |
| 15:40.32 | cladbot | Grum: false, false, true |
| 15:40.38 | Nefarion | if you mean server vs server, i'm not too sure about that |
| 15:40.52 | Fisker- | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27566.html |
| 15:40.58 | Fisker- | this is what i'm talking about btw :P |
| 15:40.59 | Nefarion | i just mean more open, in-depth *real war zone* style play for pvp servers |
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| 15:41.04 | Fisker- | interesting concept |
| 15:41.09 | Kerafyrm | i miss bf2 |
| 15:42.29 | Nefarion | not exactly like that. games like wow work very different from fpses. |
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| 15:42.49 | Fisker- | the concept could easily be copied imo |
| 15:42.59 | Wobin | Grum: welcome to double negatives? |
| 15:43.23 | Grum | easiest way to make nil into false ;D |
| 15:43.35 | Nefarion | nil evaluates as false anyway |
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| 15:44.03 | Nefarion | lua> a,b = false,nil; if not a and not b then print("see?") end; |
| 15:44.04 | cladbot | Nefarion: see? |
| 15:44.36 | Toadkiller | What am I seeing? |
| 15:44.41 | Grum | yes i know |
| 15:44.59 | Nefarion | you're seeing butterflies |
| 15:44.59 | Grum | but when assigning the value in a table you dont want to 'just use nil' |
| 15:45.09 | Nefarion | well yeah |
| 15:45.11 | Grum | as that will delete your entry :) |
| 15:45.27 | Toadkiller | Whel I can tell you what I want to see: a way in options to cycle between say true false & nil for a boolean |
| 15:45.45 | Wobin | true, false -and- nil? |
| 15:45.52 | nevcairiel | you can always check a == false, a == nil |
| 15:45.52 | Kivin | value = (not value)? |
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| 15:46.14 | Nefarion | if a == nil then a = false; end; |
| 15:46.15 | Toadkiller | Yeah, if you take a look at ItemRack for example they have a setting for show cloak & show helmet |
| 15:46.40 | Toadkiller | Now when you switch to a particular gear set it applies that, but it has true, false, nil |
| 15:46.41 | Wobin | ps, boom boom acka-lacka lacka boom |
| 15:46.58 | nevcairiel | you can store true false and nil in options |
| 15:46.58 | Toadkiller | true & false specificall yset it, nil leaves it to whatever. |
| 15:47.01 | nevcairiel | you just cant use defaults |
| 15:47.06 | nevcairiel | because it overrides nil |
| 15:47.11 | Wobin | ah |
| 15:47.20 | Wobin | so you kinda want true/false/notset |
| 15:47.25 | JoshBorke | oh btw |
| 15:47.30 | JoshBorke | someone needs to fix LibStub documentation |
| 15:47.32 | Nefarion | so just specifically check for nil? |
| 15:47.34 | Toadkiller | Now the issue is if I have layered defaults then what do I do? Well I need to set a value as well as set it to nil aka defautl |
| 15:47.48 | nevcairiel | use string "notset" |
| 15:47.48 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:48.04 | Toadkiller | Yeah thats what we did in SQL land |
| 15:48.12 | Toadkiller | Use a special string |
| 15:48.15 | Wobin | lua> bing; print(bing == true); print(bing == false); print(bing ==nil) |
| 15:48.15 | cladbot | Wobin: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "bing; print(bing == true); print(bing == false); print(bing ==n..."]:1: '=' expected near ';' |
| 15:48.22 | Wobin | bah |
| 15:48.37 | Nefarion | local bing; * |
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| 15:48.59 | Wobin | lua> local bing; print(bing == true); print(bing == false); print(bing ==nil) |
| 15:48.59 | cladbot | Wobin: false, false, true |
| 15:49.06 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: Have you looked at Son of StickyFrames? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibStickyFrames-1.0 |
| 15:49.22 | nevcairiel | there has always been a lib for that |
| 15:49.49 | Wobin | lua> local bing = false; print(bing == true); print(bing == false); print(bing ==nil) |
| 15:49.50 | cladbot | Wobin: false, true, false |
| 15:49.59 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: ary ou sure? |
| 15:50.22 | Wobin | Well there was Iriel's original stickyframes lib |
| 15:50.33 | Wobin | Which I suspect this one was sourced from |
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| 15:50.36 | nevcairiel | FlyPaper works pretty well |
| 15:50.43 | Wobin | At least I -think- it's Iriel's |
| 15:50.58 | Toadkiller | Hmmm mine is currently from BT3 which is from CLadhaire ... so Iriel? |
| 15:51.17 | Wobin | I'm fairly sure Iriel wrote the original library |
| 15:51.26 | Wobin | since he was the one to come up with the whole library concept =) |
| 15:51.43 | Wobin | although I can't tell without glancing at the code |
| 15:51.48 | Toadkiller | Anyway I am beefing it up to handle multiple frames from multiple mods for the stickyness as well as adding docking... |
| 15:52.12 | JoshBorke | what's docking? |
| 15:52.41 | Toadkiller | sticky means place A next to B relative to whatever parent each are in |
| 15:52.48 | Wobin | Toadkiller: yep that's from Iriel's code |
| 15:52.54 | Toadkiller | docking is place me relative to another frame |
| 15:53.11 | Toadkiller | Sweet tx wobin! Finally the attribution can be correct |
| 15:53.12 | Wobin | oh I figured docking was like "I'll zoom to the nearest edge" |
| 15:53.36 | Toadkiller | Nah that is snapping... ;-p |
| 15:53.46 | Wobin | Toadkiller: You might want to look into LegoBlock |
| 15:53.49 | Wobin | and how it's doing it |
| 15:53.57 | Toadkiller | Docking will make it so you can move the other frame & everything docked to it moves |
| 15:53.57 | JoshBorke | legoblock uses flypaper |
| 15:54.07 | Toadkiller | Mmm ok |
| 15:54.13 | JoshBorke | which was done by Tuller |
| 15:54.40 | JoshBorke | but it's not robust enough |
| 15:54.46 | Wobin | well, zooming to stick to the edge of the screen |
| 15:54.56 | Wobin | (docking) |
| 15:55.07 | Obelixprime | lua> self.Print("1") |
| 15:55.07 | cladbot | Obelixprime: [string "self.Print("1")"]:1: attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
| 15:55.25 | Nefarion | you need a self man |
| 15:55.28 | Wobin | Obelixprime: if it's not within a function, self has no definition |
| 15:55.30 | JoshBorke | Obelixprime: i recommend you read PiL to understand self |
| 15:56.22 | Nefarion | lua> local t={Print=function(...) print(...); end}; function t:A(...) self:Print(...); end; t:A("see?"); |
| 15:56.23 | cladbot | Nefarion: { ["Print"] = function: 0x80bd260, ["A"] = function: 0x80a04d8 } (#1), see? |
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| 15:56.47 | Obelixprime | hmmm |
| 15:56.48 | Obelixprime | alright |
| 15:57.01 | Nefarion | the self is the function's parent table, which includes the key "Print" as a function |
| 15:57.28 | Toadkiller | lol object orientation is so slutty in Lua |
| 15:57.28 | Nefarion | if in that case you want to call self.Print, you need to pass self (if it's listed in the function with colon syntax): self.Print(self,msg) |
| 15:58.17 | Toadkiller | JoshBorke: Ok so flypaper is no good, not robust? |
| 15:58.36 | Toadkiller | or Lego is not> |
| 15:58.38 | Obelixprime | hmmm |
| 15:58.45 | Obelixprime | what's the colon operator for though |
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| 15:59.12 | Nefarion | Obelixprime: the PIL really is a very good thing to read. read over even what you think you have down. you'll learn a lot in a relatively short amount of time. http://lua.org/pil/ |
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| 15:59.24 | JoshBorke | Toadkiller: FlyPaper supports sticking to TOP, LEFT, RIGHT, CENTER, BOTTOM |
| 15:59.25 | nevcairiel | self:func() == self.func(self)) |
| 15:59.27 | Toadkiller | Obelixprime: you seriously need to go read the PiL instead of making us type in the PiL into irc ... |
| 15:59.31 | nevcairiel | thats all : does |
| 15:59.41 | Nefarion | colon is the same as the dot, only it adds a hidden arg "self" |
| 15:59.50 | Obelixprime | i have it open lol, yeah |
| 15:59.52 | Obelixprime | i'll reread it |
| 15:59.58 | Toadkiller | ah nice |
| 16:00.01 | Nefarion | function a.b(self) end; == function a:b() end |
| 16:00.20 | Nefarion | and the same goes for passing: a.b(self) == a:b() |
| 16:00.25 | Nefarion | err, a.b(a) |
| 16:06.05 | Toadkiller | JoshBorke: Mmm well I already implemented all those pluss the corners TOPLEFT, TOPRIGHT etc. Did not do CENTER though. Mmm. |
| 16:06.37 | JoshBorke | Toadkiller: that's not really the part you should get from LegoBlock, the part you should get from LegoBlock is the grouping portion |
| 16:08.51 | JoshBorke | what you call docking |
| 16:10.40 | Toadkiller | Mmm where does LegoBLock live? |
| 16:11.15 | JoshBorke | legoblock.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/LegoBlock |
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| 16:12.11 | dashkal | WAU on vista. Lost cause or is there some way to give this thing the permissions it needs to fiddle with my addons folder? |
| 16:12.47 | Wobin | I would say Vista is the lost cause =) |
| 16:12.51 | Wobin | but that's just my opinon =) |
| 16:13.02 | dashkal | Agreed there, but I have no choice on the OS |
| 16:13.22 | Toadkiller | dashkal: I use WAU on Vista with no issue... |
| 16:13.42 | dashkal | How did you install it? Because I find the thing cannot update anyway |
| 16:14.23 | Wobin | Toadkiller: if you're pulling code directly from WatchDog, you'll definitely want to keep the credit to Clad |
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| 16:14.35 | dashkal | --> Chronometer - Error During Update (Will Retry Automatically) |
| 16:14.39 | dashkal | Does that for every one |
| 16:15.06 | Toadkiller | Wobin: Yes I will just add Iriel to the list |
| 16:15.24 | dashkal | I suspect permissions as I never had to click through the annoying are you sure dialog installing or unning it |
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| 16:17.05 | JoshBorke | bye bye |
| 16:17.45 | Toadkiller | dashkal: you can set it to automatically run in administrator priviledge mode. Ithink I did that |
| 16:18.05 | Toadkiller | Not sure though its been a while |
| 16:18.18 | dashkal | That would be nice. I don't suppose you remember how? I can't even find where the thing installed to |
| 16:18.36 | Toadkiller | there should be a folder under start menu called wowace |
| 16:18.41 | Toadkiller | follow it... |
| 16:19.10 | dashkal | In there, but the link is a "Application Reference" not a shortcut |
| 16:19.28 | dashkal | some stupid .net construct |
| 16:19.41 | Toadkiller | Ok on your shortcut that you click right click it |
| 16:20.07 | Toadkiller | Then properties / Shortcut / Advanced |
| 16:20.13 | Toadkiller | Select run as administrator |
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| 16:20.22 | dashkal | there is no shortcut tab |
| 16:21.27 | Ellipsis | then you're not right clicking the right thing |
| 16:21.47 | dashkal | *looks down and carefully presses the button to the right of the wheel* nope |
| 16:21.48 | Toadkiller | Mmm, interresting mine does not either but my editor does. |
| 16:22.22 | dashkal | any "real" shortcut has this lovely "Run as administrator" option |
| 16:22.42 | Toadkiller | well mines in a popup, lemme go look at it in browser |
| 16:24.03 | Ellipsis | crazy thought: what happens if you create a shortcut to this "application reference" |
| 16:24.31 | dashkal | lol, it copies the reference rather than making a shortcut to it |
| 16:24.58 | dashkal | now I have "WowAceUpdater (2)" |
| 16:25.36 | dashkal | I wonder if I can edit the file to request permissions |
| 16:26.13 | dashkal | It's just a .NET url and a couple options in there |
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| 16:26.38 | Toadkiller | YEah what is this lamo application reference thing. gimme a shortcut! |
| 16:26.44 | Toadkiller | ALthough mine works so whatever |
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| 16:27.44 | dashkal | Toadkiller: Is your warcraft install under program files? |
| 16:28.10 | Toadkiller | yes |
| 16:28.29 | Toadkiller | wheres yours? |
| 16:28.41 | dashkal | same place, I was hoping yours was outside, would have explained it |
| 16:28.51 | dashkal | Did you install from a zip or the one-click thingy? |
| 16:29.06 | Toadkiller | Mmm maybe I edited the settings on the mod folder? |
| 16:29.40 | dashkal | ahh, that may work *fiddles* |
| 16:30.03 | Toadkiller | I reallyu only remember having to run the blizz updater under admin at times. I dont remember what WAU needed. |
| 16:30.34 | Toadkiller | SO I cant undo what I did so I can have a problem & thus fix it & tell you ;-p |
| 16:30.37 | xyu` | i had to search for it, invista its under some sort of weird ass folder |
| 16:30.41 | xyu` | like (*^(&SDf-42376q08u |
| 16:30.53 | dashkal | meh, no dice |
| 16:31.45 | Toadkiller | Mmm, I hate how MS cant get their shit straight with apllications & their homes. Apple did this way back in the 80's already. |
| 16:31.55 | xyu` | wau needs to be run under admin for me too |
| 16:32.17 | Toadkiller | Well once you find it you can set it to run that way... |
| 16:32.19 | xyu` | it's not vistas fault WAU does this for its "autoupdate" feature i believe. |
| 16:32.20 | RaydenUni | so i ran around un'goro twice looking for stuff to find and found very little |
| 16:32.23 | RaydenUni | recommendations? |
| 16:32.59 | xyu` | Toadkiller, in order to find it you have to go to search, advanced search, uncheck "search indexed files" or switch it to "Everywhere" then search for wowaceupdater.exe |
| 16:33.05 | xyu` | i think that's the exe |
| 16:33.24 | Toadkiller | xyu`: yes but I do not need to find it since I have it working ;-p |
| 16:33.28 | dashkal | WAU uses the .NET answer to Java's WebStart |
| 16:33.31 | xyu` | oh |
| 16:33.41 | dashkal | I'm the broken one *and is about to follow your instructions* |
| 16:33.50 | xyu` | oh ok dash ^_^ |
| 16:34.00 | xyu` | i'm not sure if that's the exe let me chexor |
| 16:34.14 | Toadkiller | Im just trying to remember what if anything I had to do to get it running |
| 16:34.32 | xyu` | in order for it to show addons on the list for me, i had to run as administrator |
| 16:34.39 | xyu` | and i couldn't do that on the "application reference" |
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| 16:35.05 | xyu` | I wish wau had 2 versions, just an exe that doesn't auto update and an autoupdating one |
| 16:35.06 | Toadkiller | Yeah I probably searched for the exe way back. |
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| 16:38.32 | dashkal | gotcha, danke |
| 16:39.30 | dashkal | WowAceUpdater.exe hiding in c:\Users\<user>\Local\Apps\2.0\<stupid long bizarre name\ |
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| 16:40.58 | dashkal | *cries* |
| 16:41.04 | dashkal | fine, no wau on the laptop |
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| 16:41.27 | Lukian | dashkal, I assume you mean classid (or whatever it's called) instead of "stupid long bizarre name" ? :D |
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| 16:42.01 | dashkal | wowa..tion_4d89fb8d52541cc9_0001.0009_29a360310d617657 |
| 16:42.16 | Lukian | oh wow, that is randomish |
| 16:42.19 | dashkal | I don't care what it's for :p Folders should not be named like that |
| 16:42.57 | xyu` | yeah it's a pain |
| 16:42.59 | dashkal | Whatever my problem is, running as administrator does not solve it |
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| 16:43.03 | xyu` | and i couldn't figure out how to even move it out of there |
| 16:43.20 | xyu` | w/o breaking hte program |
| 16:43.34 | lordgreg | hi all. i'm looking for an addon, similar to TinyTip (not so resource hogging as CowTip). any suggestions? |
| 16:43.46 | nevcairiel | TinyTip |
| 16:43.48 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
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| 16:44.17 | Lukian | cowtip is only using 156KB |
| 16:44.17 | lordgreg | TinyTip is outdated |
| 16:44.29 | nevcairiel | tinytip works fine for me |
| 16:44.59 | xyu` | works for me except the constant error of "cannot find library instance of Tiplib-1.0 |
| 16:45.01 | xyu` | every login |
| 16:45.10 | nevcairiel | so install tiplib |
| 16:45.11 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:45.13 | xyu` | i have |
| 16:45.18 | xyu` | it says its there |
| 16:46.09 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 16:46.12 | nevcairiel | i dont have any tiplib |
| 16:46.21 | nevcairiel | and no errors either |
| 16:46.36 | xyu` | do you use tinytipextras ? |
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| 16:46.44 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 16:46.51 | xyu` | oh, i do, thats' where it's coming from |
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| 16:49.39 | Funkeh` | tinytip uses like 11kb |
| 16:49.42 | Funkeh` | and works fine |
| 16:50.01 | RaydenUni | pallies bug me |
| 16:50.09 | RaydenUni | this guy just cleared SM in two pulls |
| 16:50.18 | RaydenUni | i would die if i had to take on 10 of the mobs from SM |
| 16:51.30 | Wobin | what level? |
| 16:52.03 | RaydenUni | i'm a 70 shadow priest |
| 16:52.09 | dashkal | Heh, I have a paladin who prides himself on pulling the armory in one |
| 16:52.40 | RaydenUni | i nearly died when i pulled too many insects in tanaris |
| 16:52.42 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 16:55.55 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54287 10Babble-2.2/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Babble-2.2: revert ansi crap |
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| 17:05.12 | Wobin | well |
| 17:05.13 | Wobin | yes. |
| 17:05.16 | Wobin | You're a shadow priest |
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| 17:05.19 | Wobin | you're not a tank =P |
| 17:06.05 | xyu` | and no aoe |
| 17:06.05 | xyu` | my mage can easily take on 10 |
| 17:06.05 | Funkeh` | I'm a shadow priest tank! |
| 17:06.11 | RaydenUni | it just makes me sad that mobs 20 levels below me are a threat |
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| 17:06.36 | RaydenUni | shadow priests need some sort of oe |
| 17:06.37 | RaydenUni | aoe |
| 17:06.48 | RaydenUni | a 3rd dot that does aoe dmg :D |
| 17:07.08 | RaydenUni | we need SoC |
| 17:07.09 | masanbol | fear + sw:pain, duh |
| 17:07.17 | RaydenUni | sooo much mana |
| 17:07.31 | masanbol | psh |
| 17:07.39 | masanbol | drink a pot! suck it up! |
| 17:07.46 | RaydenUni | if i have to throw up swp on 8 guys that's most of my mana |
| 17:08.11 | masanbol | reroll shaman and drop magma totem |
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| 17:09.26 | RaydenUni | shadow priests are weird |
| 17:09.36 | RaydenUni | i find i'm not very useful against trash in dungeons |
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| 17:12.09 | Kerafyrm | why is that? |
| 17:12.29 | RaydenUni | my dps is significantly lower than rogues, warlocks, mages |
| 17:12.53 | RaydenUni | most of my dps comes from my dots and trash just don't live long enough |
| 17:13.14 | Wobin | true |
| 17:13.20 | Wobin | spriests shine in long combats |
| 17:13.32 | Wobin | it's like warlocks and trash |
| 17:14.01 | ulic | so as long as your group doesn't have trouble killing trash, then you get to own on bosses. |
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| 17:15.17 | Wobin | http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/wobindwonderdog/guildiz7.jpg |
| 17:15.19 | Wobin | aha |
| 17:15.23 | Wobin | I knew I saved that SS somewhere |
| 17:15.38 | Kerafyrm | hahah |
| 17:15.42 | Kerafyrm | now THAT is awesome! |
| 17:15.54 | Fisker- | how do you make it multiline? |
| 17:16.03 | RaydenUni | and aoe trash fights? |
| 17:16.11 | RaydenUni | i sit there, i throw up some shields on the warlock and the mage |
| 17:16.15 | RaydenUni | maybe i'll wand something |
| 17:16.33 | Wobin | well I bet the mage/warlock are glad for that |
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| 17:17.40 | Wobin | although, in my experience, the majority of the time mages and warlocks fight tooth and nail to get the spriest into their group |
| 17:17.43 | Funkeh` | You can't multiline anymore iirc |
| 17:17.48 | Wobin | no you can't |
| 17:17.49 | Funkeh` | Thats a very long time ago |
| 17:17.51 | Wobin | unfortunately |
| 17:18.01 | Kerafyrm | blizz always ruins the fun |
| 17:18.07 | Funkeh` | Thats like 1.3 ? |
| 17:18.14 | Wobin | hehe probably |
| 17:18.18 | Wobin | look at how old the KTM is |
| 17:18.44 | RaydenUni | well yeah on moroes i'm essential |
| 17:18.55 | RaydenUni | but the trash leading up i mostly fiddle |
| 17:19.10 | Wobin | well everyone has their strengths |
| 17:19.15 | Kerafyrm | looks like a shard bag? |
| 17:19.17 | RaydenUni | i think it would be nice if we got a nice aoe dot |
| 17:19.17 | Wobin | work with them imo |
| 17:19.27 | RaydenUni | nothing too powerful, but something |
| 17:19.28 | Wobin | oh hm, yeah, that's a shardbag |
| 17:19.29 | Fisker- | KTM wasn't around 1.3? |
| 17:19.39 | RaydenUni | the big problem would be threat |
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| 17:19.47 | RaydenUni | i already aggro all the mobs |
| 17:19.54 | Wobin | priests don't have a good aggro dump |
| 17:20.01 | Wobin | s/good// |
| 17:20.02 | RaydenUni | yep |
| 17:20.10 | RaydenUni | my guild was surprised to learn that i wasn't spamming fade... |
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| 17:20.19 | Wobin | what's the point? =P |
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| 17:20.28 | RaydenUni | yeah, they thought it dumped some aggro |
| 17:20.36 | RaydenUni | i had to explain it was only a temporary dump |
| 17:20.45 | Wobin | well I guess it's alright if you're right at the boundary |
| 17:20.46 | RaydenUni | and spamming it was a bad thing |
| 17:20.56 | Wobin | and the mob is far enough away that it'll turn around |
| 17:20.56 | RaydenUni | if you spam it, then you don't have it when you get aggro |
| 17:21.09 | Wobin | oh, as a preventative measure? |
| 17:21.12 | Wobin | yeah, utterly useless |
| 17:21.13 | RaydenUni | i guess |
| 17:21.20 | RaydenUni | hmmm |
| 17:21.27 | Wobin | except at the end of combat |
| 17:21.30 | RaydenUni | dot that does aoe dmg and steals your threat |
| 17:21.35 | RaydenUni | that would be sweet |
| 17:21.48 | Wobin | and a little too sweet for blizz to give to us =P |
| 17:22.05 | RaydenUni | maybe you don't generate any more threat while the dot is up |
| 17:22.19 | Wobin | again, too op |
| 17:22.24 | RaydenUni | 10 second dot that does aoe dmg, 30 second cooldown |
| 17:22.30 | RaydenUni | or 1 min cooldown |
| 17:22.49 | RaydenUni | so you can use it on the rare aoe occasion, but against bosses you use it to lessen your threat |
| 17:23.17 | grzesieq | i'd be pissed if it got knocked away cause of the debuff limit ;) |
| 17:23.37 | RaydenUni | is that still an issue? |
| 17:23.43 | RaydenUni | how many debuffs are allowed now? |
| 17:24.04 | NightHawkTheSane | 40 |
| 17:24.08 | NightHawkTheSane | and yes, it still is |
| 17:24.58 | Wobin | esp with spriests =P |
| 17:25.21 | Wobin | swp,mf,misery,shadowdebuff... |
| 17:25.41 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone and their mother has some kind of debuff these days |
| 17:26.37 | RaydenUni | mind flay counts as a debuff? |
| 17:26.43 | RaydenUni | and what do you mean shadowdebuff? |
| 17:26.48 | Wobin | um |
| 17:26.53 | RaydenUni | swp, vt, misery, shadowweaving |
| 17:26.54 | NightHawkTheSane | sahdow weaving |
| 17:27.01 | Wobin | that's the one |
| 17:27.09 | Wobin | oh vt and ve |
| 17:27.09 | RaydenUni | yeah, i REALLY like that idea for a spell |
| 17:27.13 | RaydenUni | oh yeah ve |
| 17:27.14 | Wobin | as well |
| 17:27.59 | Wobin | Mind Flay |
| 17:28.00 | Wobin | Movement speed slowed by 50%. |
| 17:28.00 | Wobin | 3 seconds remaining |
| 17:28.14 | RaydenUni | yeah i guess it would have to |
| 17:28.17 | RaydenUni | and it counts as a dot |
| 17:28.30 | NightHawkTheSane | don't you ever see the MF debuff on your target when you do it? :P |
| 17:28.53 | RaydenUni | i don't usually pay attention to debuffs when mind flaying |
| 17:28.59 | RaydenUni | except to see if VT is running out |
| 17:30.21 | Wobin | so that's six debuffs for the spriest alone |
| 17:31.12 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan, ping. |
| 17:31.25 | Zhinjio | ~seen Xinhuan |
| 17:31.32 | purl | xinhuan is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 18h 2m 49s) #wowace (1d 18h 2m 49s) #wowwiki (1d 18h 2m 49s). Has said a total of 267 messages. Is idling for 17h 20m 31s, last said: 'no, it IS annoying when 100 people come in this channel to say this and that about autobar is broken'. |
| 17:31.59 | RaydenUni | what are the cooldowns on other classes threat dumps? |
| 17:32.15 | _dreamss | other than? |
| 17:32.26 | NightHawkTheSane | vanish (rogue) is 5m, soul shatter (lock) is 5m. FD is 30s, disengage is like 10s, feint/cower is like 10s. |
| 17:32.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ankh is 40/60m |
| 17:32.47 | _dreamss | ankh is not a treat dump |
| 17:32.51 | NightHawkTheSane | .. says yOU. :P: |
| 17:32.51 | RaydenUni | yeah it is |
| 17:32.56 | _dreamss | and is 30/40/60 |
| 17:33.02 | Wobin | FD is a minute, isn't it? |
| 17:33.06 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 17:33.09 | NightHawkTheSane | no, talented ankh is only 40m |
| 17:33.09 | RaydenUni | it's also an effective way of dropping garrote from moroes :D |
| 17:33.18 | _dreamss | there is a totem |
| 17:33.21 | Wobin | ankh is the improved death talent |
| 17:33.22 | _dreamss | makes it 30 |
| 17:33.30 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, right, but no one really uses that. :P |
| 17:33.34 | _dreamss | annd its wipe recovery |
| 17:33.43 | _dreamss | u can switch totems in combat -_- |
| 17:33.53 | Wobin | which totem is that? |
| 17:34.03 | _dreamss | its pre 60 |
| 17:34.05 | NightHawkTheSane | I think its the one that drops in scholo or something |
| 17:34.12 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: pong |
| 17:34.36 | Xinhuan | mage invis is 5 min too |
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| 17:34.54 | RaydenUni | so make this aoe dmg + no threat on a 5 min cooldown |
| 17:35.02 | Xinhuan | mage invis drops 12% threat per sec for 5 secs, and on the 5th second reduces to 0 |
| 17:35.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't have a problem with priests getting something like soul shatter. |
| 17:35.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't see a need for it to do damage, though |
| 17:35.47 | RaydenUni | if it does aoe dmg then it serves two roles |
| 17:35.50 | RaydenUni | against trash it's aoe |
| 17:35.55 | RaydenUni | against bosses it's -threat |
| 17:36.01 | NightHawkTheSane | who says it has to server two roles though? |
| 17:36.10 | NightHawkTheSane | there's plenty of -threat abilities that are ONLY -threat. |
| 17:36.26 | NightHawkTheSane | serve* gah, my typing is terrible this morning. >< |
| 17:36.27 | RaydenUni | well i'm fine with adding an aoe dot AND a thret dump |
| 17:36.28 | _dreamss | priest have a treat dump allready |
| 17:36.34 | Zhinjio | X: I'm looking at the itemlink stuff. The documentation I'm seeing doesn't indicate that uniqueid is *guaranteed* unique ... what evidence do you have that suggests it is? |
| 17:36.37 | NightHawkTheSane | fade is not a threat dump. |
| 17:36.39 | RaydenUni | no we don't _dreamss |
| 17:36.43 | nevcairiel | priests shouldnt get a threat dump |
| 17:36.46 | Zhinjio | not that i"m not going to use it, I just want to see some data |
| 17:36.50 | Zhinjio | or would like to |
| 17:36.51 | Wobin | fade is a temporary threat reduction |
| 17:37.09 | RaydenUni | fade is the "you can live for 30 more seconds before you die" threat dump |
| 17:37.13 | _dreamss | which is crap if ur tanks suck |
| 17:37.28 | nevcairiel | spriests already do good dps, which is only limited by threat |
| 17:37.30 | NightHawkTheSane | if your tanks suck, you have bigger problems than priests not having a threat dump :P |
| 17:37.35 | nevcairiel | they dont deserve a threat dump |
| 17:37.45 | RaydenUni | nevcairiel unlike mages and warlocks and hunters? |
| 17:37.48 | Wobin | meh, elemental shammies imo |
| 17:37.58 | nevcairiel | spriests are no pure dps class |
| 17:38.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: any non-resto shammy. >< |
| 17:38.03 | Wobin | Although their threat dump is somewhat more extreme =) |
| 17:38.03 | nevcairiel | they have raid utility |
| 17:38.04 | _dreamss | shammies have treat reduction in a totem |
| 17:38.11 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, imo they should have a deep talented one |
| 17:38.16 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: well nobody has ever found 2 items to have the same uniqueID so far |
| 17:38.17 | NightHawkTheSane | TA totem is shit. |
| 17:38.18 | RaydenUni | and mages bring more general purpose CC and aoe dmg and warlocks bring aoe |
| 17:38.21 | Mudkips | lol |
| 17:38.29 | _dreamss | ta is shit? heh |
| 17:38.29 | Xinhuan | unless it came from the same stack of items that were split into 2 stacks |
| 17:38.31 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a pitiful and laughable excuse for threat reduction. |
| 17:38.33 | Zhinjio | X: thats not proof *grin* ... but ok, I'll go with it for now. |
| 17:38.38 | Mudkips | there are better totems than TA when you have salvation |
| 17:38.40 | Mudkips | what a waste |
| 17:38.46 | Xinhuan | well sometimes the lack of a proof is proof itself ;p |
| 17:38.55 | RaydenUni | no it's not |
| 17:38.59 | RaydenUni | not at all :) |
| 17:39.13 | _dreamss | Mudkips, yes if u want to do less treat u gonna get +100spell dmg? |
| 17:39.13 | Zhinjio | X: you shouldn't have said anything like that with Rayden here and !idle. |
| 17:39.16 | RaydenUni | i have problems with aggro on moroes |
| 17:39.19 | Zhinjio | now we're going to get a dissertation. |
| 17:39.26 | Mudkips | mem |
| 17:39.26 | RaydenUni | yeah don't argue with bad logic around me |
| 17:39.28 | RaydenUni | it bugs me |
| 17:39.28 | Mudkips | heh* |
| 17:39.35 | Mudkips | so many people having threat problems in 25 man? |
| 17:39.40 | Mudkips | salvation is the key |
| 17:39.44 | Xinhuan | i mean, it only took them 800 years to come out for a proof for fermat's last theorem? hehe |
| 17:39.46 | Zhinjio | anyway, moving right along. Cool. I'll use it for now and see how it goes. |
| 17:39.59 | RaydenUni | i still want an aoe dot |
| 17:40.03 | _dreamss | TA is pretty good if used correctly heh |
| 17:40.04 | nevcairiel | i think raid balance is pretty good right now, no class really has reason to cry |
| 17:40.04 | Xinhuan | and wow won't last 800 years hehe |
| 17:40.18 | RaydenUni | it's not that i'm not useful in a raid |
| 17:40.20 | Zhinjio | do you happen to remember what we settled on for the key yesterday/ I think it was like ... timestamp + itemid + itemuniqueid, right? |
| 17:40.23 | RaydenUni | it's that my use is mostly limited to bosses |
| 17:40.36 | nevcairiel | in PvE, every class has its role in PvE, not in all specs, but thats not needed |
| 17:40.37 | NightHawkTheSane | bosses are the only things that matter in a raid. |
| 17:40.40 | Mudkips | RaydenUni?? |
| 17:40.46 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 17:40.49 | Mudkips | what class? |
| 17:40.52 | RaydenUni | shadow priest |
| 17:40.53 | Wobin | spriest |
| 17:40.54 | kenlyric | your use on trash is Wand |
| 17:40.56 | Mudkips | lmao |
| 17:41.02 | Mudkips | i guess you haven't been in hyjal? |
| 17:41.07 | Mudkips | spriests are amazing on trash |
| 17:41.07 | RaydenUni | doing kz now |
| 17:41.08 | _dreamss | shh |
| 17:41.13 | RaydenUni | why's that? |
| 17:41.20 | Mudkips | because they come in waves |
| 17:41.22 | _dreamss | spriest = manabatery for aoe classes |
| 17:41.23 | _dreamss | :P |
| 17:41.24 | Wobin | What's this reincarnation reduction totem thing? |
| 17:41.24 | nevcairiel | kz aka karazhan? |
| 17:41.28 | Mudkips | with only a small break to drink |
| 17:41.28 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 17:41.35 | NightHawkTheSane | _dreamss: buy a dictionary. >< |
| 17:41.36 | nevcairiel | and you talk about raid usability by karazhan raids ? =P |
| 17:41.37 | RaydenUni | Mudkips so for mana regen? |
| 17:41.46 | RaydenUni | nevcairiel i talk about what i know :D |
| 17:41.57 | RaydenUni | and i think an aoe dot would be fun |
| 17:42.02 | Wobin | RaydenUni: That is a valid raid utility |
| 17:42.09 | nevcairiel | there are not that many AoE cases in 25 raid |
| 17:42.13 | RaydenUni | yeah i know we are mana batteries |
| 17:42.17 | _dreamss | nevah |
| 17:42.22 | RaydenUni | and after that we dps and add some healing |
| 17:42.25 | RaydenUni | and in certain cases CC |
| 17:42.30 | Mudkips | and yeah |
| 17:42.57 | nevcairiel | in every higher raid mobs live long enough for spriests to do dps |
| 17:43.01 | nevcairiel | just not .. karazhan :P |
| 17:43.04 | RaydenUni | i'm not arguing that spriests are useless in raids |
| 17:43.18 | _dreamss | http://thottbot.com/i22345 |
| 17:43.21 | RaydenUni | i'm saying that giving us a little bit of aoe dmg wouldn't hurt anybody |
| 17:43.27 | Mudkips | they're fine trust me |
| 17:43.33 | Mudkips | you don't need an aoe |
| 17:43.33 | RaydenUni | and it would give me something to do against some of the trash |
| 17:43.37 | _dreamss | wobin there ya go |
| 17:43.48 | NightHawkTheSane | buy a book, that's something to do, and more interesting to boot. |
| 17:43.52 | RaydenUni | and it would help me kill groups of lvl 50 mobs :D |
| 17:43.56 | Mudkips | Im sure MOONkins would love an aoe not on COOLDOWN |
| 17:44.00 | Mudkips | but it's not going to happen |
| 17:44.01 | nevcairiel | get sw:p and misery up on all mobs, and you help warlock SoC dps |
| 17:44.03 | nevcairiel | there you go! |
| 17:44.07 | kenlyric | so wait, you just want to do everything? |
| 17:44.14 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 17:44.18 | Wobin | _dreamss: ta =) |
| 17:44.21 | RaydenUni | warlocks can, why can't i? |
| 17:44.27 | kenlyric | make VT raid-wide while we're at it! |
| 17:44.28 | nevcairiel | because you are no warlock |
| 17:44.30 | Mudkips | reroll warlock |
| 17:44.32 | NightHawkTheSane | because you're not a warlock |
| 17:44.34 | kenlyric | because you're not a warlock? |
| 17:44.46 | kenlyric | me fail logic? that's unpossible. |
| 17:44.58 | Mudkips | im in yur channel breakin yur combos |
| 17:45.29 | RaydenUni | so noob question |
| 17:45.34 | RaydenUni | there is a dock in tanaris |
| 17:45.37 | RaydenUni | does it go anywhere? |
| 17:45.39 | Mudkips | nope |
| 17:45.40 | kenlyric | hell |
| 17:45.41 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:45.42 | Mudkips | it's a mystery |
| 17:45.46 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 17:45.49 | RaydenUni | that is unfortunate |
| 17:46.00 | kenlyric | the best guess is that if undermine ever gets added, it will go there. |
| 17:46.01 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 17:46.05 | Wobin | you fish for stonescale off it =P |
| 17:46.12 | RaydenUni | i just smacked the cat when he tried to jump into my lap and he fell to the floor |
| 17:46.13 | RaydenUni | oops |
| 17:46.15 | Zhinjio | Before I go and write my own list hashing function, are there any "off the shelf" ones that anyone knows about? |
| 17:46.35 | Wobin | night all |
| 17:46.40 | Wobin | cause jesus, 5am |
| 17:46.41 | Zhinjio | later Wobin |
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| 17:47.25 | what-K | hi all i have a question BossWhisperer wont work at me can someone help me ? |
| 17:48.01 | RaydenUni | i can't find anywhere good to mine at 250 |
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| 17:49.21 | Wobin | for thorium? |
| 17:49.23 | [AR]Sylvanason | heya |
| 17:49.24 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 17:49.29 | RaydenUni | small thorium |
| 17:49.31 | RaydenUni | i have 260 now |
| 17:49.31 | Wobin | Winterspring |
| 17:49.34 | RaydenUni | rich thorium is 275 |
| 17:49.39 | Wobin | do circles of winterspring |
| 17:49.46 | Zhinjio | WS and WPL isn't bad either. |
| 17:49.49 | Jops | Its some small ones in silithus too |
| 17:49.54 | Wobin | and there's always silithus |
| 17:50.00 | Wobin | although silithus makes me want to cut |
| 17:50.04 | [AR]Sylvanason | guys - i guess this is a common issue: my Grid isnt picking up Power Word: Fortitude, only the Prayer of Fortitude. Ive added all the combinations of spells of PW:F, and assigned frames, but no luck. Any ideas? |
| 17:50.05 | RaydenUni | WPL? |
| 17:50.06 | Zhinjio | me too. i hate that zone |
| 17:50.10 | Zhinjio | western plaguelands |
| 17:50.10 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.12 | Wobin | western plaguelands |
| 17:50.17 | Jops | Silithus rocked for rich ones atleast :> All the rich ones are in the hives, and the leveling ppl dont go there D: |
| 17:50.18 | RaydenUni | i just tried EPL |
| 17:50.27 | RaydenUni | i found one thing i could mine in the whole loop |
| 17:50.35 | Wobin | Jops: yeah, but you have to kill your way down |
| 17:50.40 | Wobin | or spend lots of time stealthing |
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| 17:50.52 | RaydenUni | yah they should give shadow priests the ability to stealth |
| 17:50.59 | Zhinjio | EPL is for once you hit rich thorium, and its a crappy grind. |
| 17:51.00 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 17:51.05 | Jops | Wobin: Not at lvl 70 :> |
| 17:51.10 | Zhinjio | no, not at 7-0 |
| 17:51.16 | Zhinjio | I just did it on my 58 shammy. |
| 17:51.18 | Zhinjio | meh |
| 17:51.28 | RaydenUni | only 40 more levels till outlands! |
| 17:51.33 | Wobin | still irritating |
| 17:51.35 | Zhinjio | I was a little hasty in dropping mining for engineering on my prot pally |
| 17:51.37 | Wobin | and the elite mobs |
| 17:51.45 | Wobin | Zhinjio: but but.. roflcopter |
| 17:51.54 | RaydenUni | i dropped enchanting for mining |
| 17:52.03 | Lukian | RaydenUni, only one quest hand-in till outland for my huntar :D |
| 17:52.06 | Wobin | cause omg roflcopter |
| 17:52.11 | Zhinjio | I burned him through engineering to get the goggles. oh man. those are so sweet. |
| 17:52.23 | RaydenUni | Lukian i'm lvl 70, im talking about my mining |
| 17:52.26 | _dreamss | 250 mining? cyrcles south of brm |
| 17:52.32 | RaydenUni | once i hit 300 when i can go mine in outlands and fly |
| 17:52.37 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
| 17:52.42 | Lukian | RaydenUni, hehe sad |
| 17:52.46 | Zhinjio | once you can fly around, you're golden. |
| 17:52.46 | RaydenUni | walking sucks |
| 17:52.54 | RaydenUni | just wish i had my epic flying though |
| 17:52.59 | Wobin | no honestly, I circled winterspring, and got two stacks each circle |
| 17:53.07 | _dreamss | yeah |
| 17:53.08 | RaydenUni | i'm going to WS now |
| 17:53.11 | _dreamss | but mostly rich thor |
| 17:53.12 | Wobin | of course, I stealthed most of it |
| 17:53.18 | Wobin | because it was easier |
| 17:53.21 | _dreamss | u need 265 for rich thor i belive |
| 17:53.26 | Wobin | especially the elite mobs in that dragon cave |
| 17:53.29 | RaydenUni | 275 |
| 17:53.47 | _dreamss | hes at 250, needs to take it down a notch |
| 17:53.53 | RaydenUni | 260 but yeah |
| 17:53.55 | Wobin | otherwise ungoro |
| 17:54.23 | RaydenUni | i tried |
| 17:54.23 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=324 |
| 17:54.25 | _dreamss | place south of brm |
| 17:54.26 | RaydenUni | un'goro last night |
| 17:54.29 | _dreamss | u tried there? |
| 17:54.29 | RaydenUni | i didn't find much there |
| 17:54.37 | RaydenUni | although i didn't check the middle i guess |
| 17:54.38 | _dreamss | there 7 veins |
| 17:55.06 | Wobin | I still have about 20 arcane crystals from my thorium grind =P |
| 17:55.09 | RaydenUni | i didn't go to brm |
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| 17:55.47 | RaydenUni | blasted lands? |
| 17:55.54 | RaydenUni | that's what one guy recommends for 245-300 |
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| 17:56.29 | Jops | Its some Mithril in BL, but not much Thorium. |
| 17:56.34 | _dreamss | 2 low |
| 17:56.39 | Mudkips | leveling mining? |
| 17:56.45 | themoe321 | hello, short question: is there a slashcommand to open the Character Frame/Skill Book/Talents/social etc.... ??? |
| 17:56.48 | _dreamss | he wants di and hor |
| 17:56.51 | _dreamss | thor |
| 17:56.55 | Mudkips | themoe321.... |
| 17:57.06 | Mudkips | are you serious? |
| 17:57.36 | themoe321 | just installed Xchat... its my nick "themoe" ... not from wowace |
| 17:57.53 | Mudkips | =_+ |
| 17:58.01 | RaydenUni | xchat is nice |
| 17:58.06 | themoe321 | yes :) |
| 17:58.15 | RaydenUni | you are using xchat2 though right? |
| 17:58.20 | _dreamss | burning stepes |
| 17:58.25 | Lukian | changing the topic, excellent move RaydenUni ! |
| 17:58.37 | themoe321 | XChat 2.8.4 |
| 17:58.42 | Mudkips | crisis averted? |
| 17:58.44 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 17:58.49 | Mudkips | moving back to defcon 1 |
| 17:59.00 | RaydenUni | Lukian what you say? |
| 17:59.02 | dashkal | *lost* |
| 17:59.03 | Mudkips | or does it go the other way around... |
| 17:59.07 | Mudkips | I'm not so sure |
| 17:59.11 | RaydenUni | oh nm |
| 17:59.15 | themoe321 | anyone knows the answer of my question? |
| 17:59.25 | Lukian | themoe321, Mudkips answered |
| 17:59.25 | Mudkips | lol??? |
| 17:59.39 | what-K | hi all i have a question BossWhisperer wont work at me can someone help me ? |
| 17:59.48 | themoe321 | oO |
| 17:59.53 | Mudkips | what does that do? |
| 17:59.54 | Lukian | The answer was "are you serious" |
| 18:00.14 | Mudkips | what-K |
| 18:00.21 | what-K | yes |
| 18:00.28 | Mudkips | what does that do ? |
| 18:00.35 | what-K | it loads |
| 18:00.38 | what-K | but |
| 18:00.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkips: i believe def-con 1 is more serious than 2, or 3, etc. |
| 18:00.58 | what-K | when i fight a boss it will not answer the others during the fight |
| 18:00.59 | Lukian | ding! 58 hunter :D |
| 18:01.06 | Mudkips | what exact does bosswhisperer do? as in function |
| 18:01.30 | Jops | Whisper % of boss hp to people that whisper you |
| 18:01.37 | Mudkips | that's it? |
| 18:02.04 | what-K | yes |
| 18:02.07 | Jops | hm, and hides the whispers while in a boss fight, so you can look at them afterwards |
| 18:02.11 | Jops | or something like that |
| 18:02.14 | Mudkips | oh haha |
| 18:02.23 | Mudkips | doesn't deadlybossmods have that integrated? |
| 18:02.37 | what-K | yes but i use bigwigs |
| 18:02.45 | Mudkips | oh |
| 18:02.59 | Jops | I know BW stopped the whispers from reaching WIM, so I removed it :p |
| 18:03.00 | Mudkips | you must get a lot of distraction whispers I assume? |
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| 18:03.20 | Mudkips | like " I want to touch your tra-la-la" |
| 18:03.23 | Funkeh` | BW doesn't interfere with whispers |
| 18:03.40 | Jops | orly? :o |
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| 18:03.53 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 18:04.50 | RaydenUni | so far WS sucks |
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| 18:04.53 | Lukian | wow, WIM is still used? |
| 18:04.59 | Jops | D: |
| 18:05.09 | Jops | Ive used it so long that I cant go back to not using it :o |
| 18:05.17 | Jops | I dont like it though :< |
| 18:05.23 | Lukian | I just group all my whispers in one window |
| 18:05.24 | Mudkips | what's that? |
| 18:05.37 | Lukian | and prat colours the class names for me (helps differentiate) |
| 18:05.52 | Mudkips | I just use 2 chat panes |
| 18:06.02 | Lukian | Mudkips, it spawns a seperate chat pane for each person that messages you |
| 18:06.16 | Mudkips | dang that's funky |
| 18:06.28 | Mudkips | so you have to tab to each pane everytime to you want see what they said? |
| 18:06.38 | Lukian | not really, because in the process it covers your current chat |
| 18:06.49 | Lukian | so you have to change tabs often, yeah. |
| 18:06.54 | RaydenUni | found mithril :D |
| 18:06.59 | Mudkips | what a pain in the butt |
| 18:06.59 | RaydenUni | might as well go back to tanaris |
| 18:07.09 | Jops | Handy when talking to several people at once though, or they bother you alot in combat |
| 18:07.16 | Jops | then you can just open the chat thingy afterwards :> |
| 18:07.41 | Mudkips | I just have raid / class channels/ guild / whispers on one pane |
| 18:07.56 | Mudkips | the other pane has general / trade / emotes / loot info / rolls |
| 18:07.57 | Lukian | you must have a lot of people whisper you for WIM to still be useful, despite being annoying ^^ |
| 18:08.00 | Funkeh` | I have everything in one window |
| 18:08.05 | Funkeh` | cause I'm that good |
| 18:08.08 | Mudkips | keeps everything in my left window unspammed |
| 18:08.14 | Funkeh` | oh yeah and the window is 3 lines long |
| 18:08.18 | Lukian | Funkeh`, how many whispers do you miss? :p |
| 18:08.19 | Lukian | hehe |
| 18:08.32 | Jops | Heh, raid and guild tends to get spammy for me at times D: |
| 18:08.34 | Funkeh` | Lukian, I hear the whisper sound when I get a whisper |
| 18:08.40 | Funkeh` | its pretty obbvious |
| 18:08.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`'s just so good, he never misses anything |
| 18:08.45 | Mudkips | plus I have prat sound on for whispers so I hear a beep when I get incomings |
| 18:08.56 | Lukian | Funkeh`, you can miss it while raiding or such though |
| 18:08.58 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, qft |
| 18:09.09 | Lukian | hehe |
| 18:09.12 | Funkeh` | Lukian, Raiding is so boring, not really |
| 18:09.26 | Lukian | pvping? :p |
| 18:09.28 | Mudkips | talking to people in chat during raids is nono |
| 18:09.40 | Jops | heh |
| 18:09.45 | Lukian | I have enough threat auto-attacking |
| 18:09.46 | Lukian | sif :p |
| 18:09.47 | Mudkips | unless it's really boring trash that you've done 1000x times |
| 18:09.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: actually, while you're you might know this, what'sthe difference between 'Dispelling Done' and 'Decursing Done' in violation? |
| 18:10.02 | Mudkips | threat as what? |
| 18:10.08 | Lukian | bear tank :D |
| 18:10.10 | Zhinjio | anyone happen to know the maximum known values for the itemid and uniqueid fields in an item link?> |
| 18:10.13 | Zhinjio | itemstring? |
| 18:10.21 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, one is the actual curing of a bad spell the other is the removing of a good spell from an npc |
| 18:10.24 | Mudkips | eh easy enough |
| 18:10.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, okay |
| 18:11.10 | Funkeh` | Stargate Atlantis S04E07 DSR XviD-0TV [eztv] |
| 18:11.27 | Mudkips | stargate is still going @_@ |
| 18:11.29 | Lukian | number 7 already? score I should start watching ^^ |
| 18:11.35 | NightHawkTheSane | oh shit, sg:a. |
| 18:11.43 | Funkeh` | YOU FORGOT? |
| 18:11.45 | Lukian | hehe |
| 18:11.46 | Funkeh` | WHAT THE FUCK? |
| 18:11.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I KNOW! |
| 18:11.55 | [AR]Sylvanason | well whatever. I managed to fiddle the SavedVariables of Grid to get Power Word: Fortitude working. if anyone wants to know.. it stripped out the ":". bye, tahnks for nothing :) |
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| 18:11.58 | Mudkips | is mcguyver still in it? |
| 18:11.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm a terrible person |
| 18:12.20 | Lukian | Mudkips, sometimes :D |
| 18:12.23 | Mudkips | what are they fighting now? |
| 18:12.26 | Funkeh` | It just came out so its slow as hell |
| 18:12.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkips: your mom. |
| 18:12.38 | Mudkips | still agaisnt the space eqyptians? |
| 18:12.45 | Mudkips | against* |
| 18:12.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: really? the torrent i just grabbed from tvtorrents looked like it had over 2k seeders |
| 18:13.04 | Funkeh` | mine has 5k |
| 18:13.08 | Funkeh` | but still really slow |
| 18:13.24 | Mudkips | it's your isp |
| 18:13.44 | Mudkips | im in your internets shaping your bandwidth |
| 18:13.45 | Funkeh` | Thats quite an assumption |
| 18:13.52 | Mudkips | :D |
| 18:14.01 | Funkeh` | kind of shiotty assumption NightHawkTheSane would make tbh |
| 18:14.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it totally is. |
| 18:14.14 | Funkeh` | :P |
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| 18:15.21 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, since my isp is shit get downloading and seeding |
| 18:15.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm pulling down almost 300k/s, not sure what you mean by slow. ;) |
| 18:15.38 | Funkeh` | you got the eztv one? |
| 18:15.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i grabbed the one on tvtorrents.com |
| 18:16.04 | Funkeh` | seeds 12(5676) :x |
| 18:16.20 | NightHawkTheSane | suck. |
| 18:16.59 | NightHawkTheSane | 49(2188) here, and pushing 600k/s :D |
| 18:17.17 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 18:17.22 | RaydenUni | i just got hosed by a 60 elite |
| 18:17.49 | RaydenUni | also |
| 18:17.58 | RaydenUni | no ore in the dragonmaw cave in WS :( |
| 18:18.14 | Kerafyrm | in 2.3 you wanna kill those blue dragonkin thou |
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| 18:18.23 | Kerafyrm | cuz you could get a uber rare Azure Whelping |
| 18:18.32 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:18.33 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 18:18.39 | Funkeh` | gonna spend my days there |
| 18:18.43 | Funkeh` | just for that pet |
| 18:18.45 | Kerafyrm | massive money |
| 18:18.55 | RaydenUni | what sort of drop rate? |
| 18:19.11 | Funkeh` | down speed of 0.xkBps gg |
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| 18:19.32 | Paene | :-O no CIA bot! |
| 18:19.33 | RaydenUni | good grief i've made like 2 levels of mining in over an hour |
| 18:19.42 | RaydenUni | when do you stop getting levels from thorium? |
| 18:19.55 | Lukian | l/me downloads the episode from usenet at 830KB/s and laughs at you both :D |
| 18:20.03 | |Stan| | Kaelten: fish is still broken :( |
| 18:20.21 | Paene | what's broken about it? |
| 18:20.28 | Paene | seems to be working fine for me |
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| 18:21.24 | Kerafyrm | i downloaded the new movie american gangster @ a little over 1MB/sec.. ;) |
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| 18:21.47 | |Stan| | Paene: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce <- does that work for you? |
| 18:22.47 | Funkeh` | what tracker are you 2 on? |
| 18:22.59 | Funkeh` | istole? |
| 18:26.12 | RaydenUni | whoever said go to WS for small thorium... i haven't found any |
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| 18:28.49 | Karl1297 | may I remove a table entry while I'm iterating over the same table? |
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| 18:30.29 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel * r54289 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.lua: BossWhisperer: do some cleaning |
| 18:31.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: er, as i said, tvtorrents.com? |
| 18:31.59 | dashkal | Karl1297: I just did a quick test and it worked fine, no errors |
| 18:32.04 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, /shrug I was asking the tracker, didn't think your download location was your tracker :) |
| 18:32.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: yeah, well, the tracker is like 1.tracker.tvtorrents.com if you want to be precise :P |
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| 18:34.59 | julith | ah, thanks dashkal! |
| 18:35.03 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel * r54290 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.lua: BossWhisperer: potential bugfix |
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| 18:54.03 | Paene | Stan: nope, but the link to my addon's changelog works from my wiki page |
| 18:56.03 | Lukian | hunter: aldor or scryers? |
| 18:56.38 | |Stan| | Paene: yup |
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| 19:15.29 | NightHawkTheSane | "You're right, I am a healer. But first I need something to heal. *shoots*" |
| 19:15.41 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:16.13 | nevcairiel | that line was really cool |
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| 19:49.29 | aestil | surl is down for me. is there another site that will host +2mb image? |
| 19:49.54 | haste | I miss surl :( |
| 19:50.02 | aestil | its gone? |
| 19:50.17 | haste | no idea, but it's been down for two days now |
| 19:50.32 | aestil | do you know of an alternative? |
| 19:50.33 | NightHawkTheSane | its probably just feeling a little surly |
| 19:50.50 | ag`_ | *drumsnare* |
| 19:51.04 | many | your own webserver |
| 19:52.12 | haste | too much work |
| 19:53.11 | ag`_ | It's not hard, to bad part is just having a computer running 24/7 |
| 19:53.28 | NightHawkTheSane | you people don't let your computers run 24/7? |
| 19:53.56 | grzesieq | uhm, bit offtopic: interpolation search should be faster than bsearch on average, right? |
| 19:55.51 | many | guess iam too much used to people who atleast have some kind of webspace |
| 19:57.55 | dodga | who does not have his own dedicated server nowadays anyway :P |
| 19:58.47 | haste | many: I have a couple of GB avaible in webspaace, but I still use services like surl.se |
| 19:59.50 | winkiller | I always lose track where I upload stuff |
| 19:59.58 | winkiller | I'd be totally lost with imagehosts |
| 20:00.07 | winkiller | on my box I can "find ." |
| 20:00.23 | many | or gallery.php :) |
| 20:00.34 | winkiller | too much overhead mostly |
| 20:00.37 | winkiller | better snif |
| 20:00.53 | many | yah, the solution doesnt matter, the principle does |
| 20:01.14 | many | gallery(2) is just idiot proof |
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| 20:02.32 | RaydenUni | so back to our conversation a long time ago about mining around lvl 250 |
| 20:02.35 | RaydenUni | blasted lands is great |
| 20:02.39 | RaydenUni | that armory mine is awesome |
| 20:04.36 | Kerafyrm | lol |
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| 20:06.54 | Varazir[NA] | Hello |
| 20:07.41 | Varazir | I have a question about Autobar |
| 20:08.00 | Toadkiller | shoot |
| 20:08.32 | Varazir | I have 2 bars now Basic and Druid ( dosn't look like it's working ) How do I add one more |
| 20:08.33 | cryogen | i have a question about autobar |
| 20:08.33 | Varazir | ? |
| 20:08.37 | cryogen | why did you have to destroy it :p |
| 20:09.07 | Varazir | hehe |
| 20:09.20 | Toadkiller | Soon you will be able to create custom bars. The druid bar is a test bar for that but it does contain some usefull macro buttons. You can bind to them via the blizzard binding interface |
| 20:09.55 | Varazir | okay cool |
| 20:10.00 | Toadkiller | cryogen: You _can_ use the old stable version. I think the one from yesterday is quite usable though... |
| 20:10.13 | [KzM]Fatalis | if i update without externals using WAU and auto dep download, then uninstall the addon from WAU, will it check iff the external is being used be another addon, and if not delete it? |
| 20:10.18 | cryogen | i could but id rather use this one and moan |
| 20:10.25 | cryogen | and yes it's usable, i just dont like it :) |
| 20:10.33 | Toadkiller | True. Everyone needs a goal. |
| 20:10.49 | cryogen | the defaults are noet sane(for me) and even though it was a pain in the ass, i much prefer the old config |
| 20:10.50 | Toadkiller | Oh really, what don't you like? The config? |
| 20:11.07 | Toadkiller | Yeah the config is not done yet. |
| 20:11.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: can i assign entire/multiple pt sets to a single button, yet? :P |
| 20:11.28 | Toadkiller | The actual bar itself is superior to the old one already though |
| 20:11.34 | cryogen | seems like every time i update, i get a new duplicate button |
| 20:11.46 | cryogen | and my water is right on the far end, for some reason |
| 20:12.01 | aestil | i never did understand autobar |
| 20:12.07 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: Only via code. I still need to come up with a scheme for picking PT3 sets directly into a custom category |
| 20:12.25 | cryogen | i currently cant remove buttons either |
| 20:12.33 | cryogen | so im stuck with two potion buttons |
| 20:12.38 | cryogen | (one buff one battle elixir) |
| 20:12.39 | Toadkiller | Yeah the water thing is anoying. Let me go fix the code that should be inserting it in the right spot |
| 20:12.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: hm, via code, you say? that might be good enough. |
| 20:13.03 | Toadkiller | cryogen: you cant disable buttons? |
| 20:13.13 | cryogen | let me update and try again |
| 20:14.22 | aestil | remember when blizzards background downloader sucked? i love this thing now. |
| 20:14.27 | cryogen | also for some reason when i /release or logout/login the fubar text settings arent saved, neither is the bar scale |
| 20:15.13 | cryogen | removing buttons seemsto work now |
| 20:15.23 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: you should be able to make a mod with just a simple .lua file that uses functions in AutoBarCategory.lua to create a category with what you want, give it a key & insert it into AutoBarCategoryList... |
| 20:15.26 | Varazir | I have seen that if I change some settings some vierd happsn buttons move around and dosn't get the right icone. but when I relog all looks okay |
| 20:15.55 | Toadkiller | Varazir: is that with the latest version? |
| 20:15.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: i'll poke around in the code. that's basically the only thing keeping me from using the latest version. |
| 20:16.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I stack a bunch of items into the same button, and that's a pita to do manually assigning a single item at a time. |
| 20:16.42 | Varazir | yes |
| 20:17.00 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: I have not officially factored out what is needed for your own custom categories but what is there should be enough. If it is not just post to forum & I will fix whatever you need. |
| 20:17.05 | Varazir | well I updated few hours ago |
| 20:17.32 | Toadkiller | Varazir: ok should be good then. Did you follow instructions for resetting profile & bars? |
| 20:18.11 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: btw which category combos are you missing? |
| 20:18.12 | Varazir | hehe, no I didn't maybe explines it |
| 20:18.43 | CIA-7 | 03peragor * r54292 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua: |
| 20:18.43 | CIA-7 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 20:18.43 | CIA-7 | - Another tweak to the incoming heals section |
| 20:18.43 | CIA-7 | - Improved hots section using IncomingHealsLib routines |
| 20:19.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: well, I havn't tried the newer version in a while, but last time I did, i wanted to be able to group portals/hearth/mounts, all water, all food, and all buffs, each into their own button like that. |
| 20:20.07 | Toadkiller | when you say all buffs do you mean the food buffs as well? |
| 20:20.23 | Fisker- | ~seen zealotonastick |
| 20:20.32 | purl | zealotonastick <n=ZOAS@c-69-246-217-192.hsd1.in.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3d 17h 18m 6s ago, saying: 'explain it to us then.'. |
| 20:20.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, no, use-items that give buffs (pots, scrolls, etc) |
| 20:20.51 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 20:20.53 | Fisker- | I WANT YOU |
| 20:20.55 | Fisker- | I NEED YOU |
| 20:20.58 | Chompers | he's been kidnapped |
| 20:21.41 | Toadkiller | That is already done then... Just use AutoBarButtonBuff. Mmm I guess it does not include the weapon, shield & chest buffs though |
| 20:22.33 | kebinusan | Anyone know why in pitbull the options to move the combat icons and the like seem to be grayed out |
| 20:22.44 | Toadkiller | So all water would be regular + buff water, & all food is regular + buff food? |
| 20:22.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: yes |
| 20:22.58 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: because you're not in config mode and those icons aren't shown? |
| 20:22.58 | kebinusan | Toadkiller: will the option in auotbar to only show the popup if a shift key is held down be making a return |
| 20:23.39 | kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane: thanks I knew it was something simple |
| 20:23.54 | Toadkiller | kebinusan: Yeah I need to get back to finishing that. I had it where it was working except for sometimes leaving the popup open if you release shift while on it still |
| 20:24.20 | Toadkiller | Did that work in the pre 2.0 one? |
| 20:24.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: hmm, no ability to assign multiple categories to a single button? |
| 20:25.13 | NightHawkTheSane | or wait, nevermind, i think i'm just missing something |
| 20:25.27 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: sure there is, just make a custom button then hit new category as often as you like... |
| 20:26.07 | NightHawkTheSane | can you assign names to custom buttons? |
| 20:26.19 | Toadkiller | There used to be a 12 item limit but this version has none. |
| 20:26.32 | cryogen | Toadkiller: settings seem to only work randomly.. is it worth me deleting my savedvars? |
| 20:26.34 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: not yet lemme add that to my short term todo list |
| 20:26.58 | CIA-7 | 03peragor * r54293 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua: |
| 20:26.58 | CIA-7 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 20:26.58 | CIA-7 | - Forgot a "then" in an if statement. |
| 20:27.18 | kebinusan | Toadkiller: no clue if it worked pre 2.0 honestly I was reworking my ui and moved my autobar more in my mouse path and noticed the option wasnt there |
| 20:27.26 | Zhinjio | are there any lua functions for dealing with a hex string, and/or doing conversion from hex to base 10? |
| 20:27.36 | Zhinjio | and vice versa |
| 20:27.40 | Toadkiller | cryogen: SLECT A PROFILE THAT IS UNIQUE TO to your character, then click reset profile, then go & click on reset the bars. I would /rl at that point too. When you get back you should be fine... |
| 20:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: also, you might want to look at how baggins does it's bag section setup gui, , it's a bit nicer, and allows for moving categories up/down fairly easy |
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| 20:30.06 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: will do |
| 20:30.14 | Toadkiller | does bagins use waterfall as well? |
| 20:30.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 20:30.36 | Toadkiller | Kool maybe he solved some issues I have. |
| 20:30.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, to be sure, I must say, it does look much nicer than the last time i tried it. :) |
| 20:30.50 | NightHawkTheSane | (autobar, i mean0 |
| 20:31.03 | Toadkiller | Yeah the "move the buttons" mode especially is a lot better |
| 20:31.10 | Nargiddley | It uses waterfall, the Bag/Category is using the API not an options table tho |
| 20:32.03 | Toadkiller | Nargiddley: yeah the API seemed to have more flexible options |
| 20:32.33 | Varazir | Toadkiller I saw you just updated it will try that version out |
| 20:33.08 | Toadkiller | wonder if you can tack on an API section to the end of an options table section |
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| 20:33.35 | Zhinjio | I guess thats a no on hex-to-number conversion functions? |
| 20:34.01 | Toadkiller | Zhinjio: hold on while we all whistle & look the other way |
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| 20:35.20 | Toadkiller | Zhinjio: from google ... http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2004-09/msg00054.html |
| 20:35.20 | [KzM]Fatalis | if i update without externals using WAU and auto dep download, then uninstall the addon from WAU, will it check iff the external is being used be another addon, and if not delete it? |
| 20:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Zhinjio: there's got to be something in some math library for converting btween bases |
| 20:35.56 | Toadkiller | yeah lua has hex -> dec built in apparently |
| 20:36.06 | Varazir | A question are there any plugin that has replced "informant" ? |
| 20:36.57 | Zhinjio | good function for dec-> hex. OH?? I looked through the math functions and whatnot, maybe I overlooked it. |
| 20:37.24 | Shadowed | btw Toadkiller, the sticky frame code is clads |
| 20:38.07 | Shadowed | Should probably bug Tuller though, FlyPaper is a bit better then clads code |
| 20:38.14 | Toadkiller | Shadowed: actually its Iriels originally. I am adding both to credits though & author in the next update |
| 20:38.27 | Shadowed | same person |
| 20:38.35 | Toadkiller | + Tuller, because im gonna steal some of his FLyPaper code |
| 20:38.48 | Toadkiller | Oh wth? Iriel = Cladhaire? |
| 20:39.13 | Shadowed | sure |
| 20:39.33 | Zhinjio | I"m not seeing it in the 5.1 spec, was it a 5.2 thing? |
| 20:39.51 | Shadowed | all robots are the same person |
| 20:40.59 | Zhinjio | oooo |
| 20:41.12 | Zhinjio | bit.tostring does arbitrary base conversions |
| 20:41.14 | Zhinjio | that'll work. |
| 20:41.19 | many | herhe |
| 20:41.23 | Zhinjio | and bit.tonumber |
| 20:42.42 | Toadkiller | Lua also accepts integer hexadecimal constants, by prefixing them with 0x |
| 20:43.47 | Toadkiller | & that link was from 2004 so im sure things have improved... |
| 20:44.12 | Zhinjio | darnit. bit.tonumber and bit.tostring were not included in the bitlib conversion from 1.9 |
| 20:44.23 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 20:44.34 | Toadkiller | Code Decay! |
| 20:44.48 | Toadkiller | Or is that Algorithm Necrosis? |
| 20:45.27 | Zhinjio | fortunately, just doing something like "0xFF" + 0 will return 255, so thats all good. |
| 20:46.39 | todd` | would anyone happen to have a copy of cmdaceupdater? I can't seem to find it |
| 20:47.58 | Toadkiller | myvalue = 255; |
| 20:47.58 | Toadkiller | myhex = string.format("%x", myvalue) |
| 20:48.21 | Toadkiller | seems ugly tho |
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| 20:50.32 | Zhinjio | true. |
| 20:50.50 | Zhinjio | uglier than calling that function? meh, w/e... |
| 20:51.05 | Jaxon | todd`: search wins |
| 20:51.06 | Jaxon | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4778.0 |
| 20:51.30 | todd` | indeed |
| 20:51.35 | todd` | but I don't see a download link |
| 20:51.38 | todd` | unless I'm missing it |
| 20:52.06 | todd` | which is very likely since it hasn't been edited since august and I think I've downloaded it from there since then |
| 20:52.18 | Jaxon | Its an attachement. |
| 20:55.31 | Chompers | http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t288/khenaz/?action=view¤t=crysisjungleeditor2007-11-0900-54-3.jpg |
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| 21:02.51 | julith | if i inherit from "SecureUnitButtonTemplate" do I have anything else to make the frame clickable? (by now it doesn't react on any click) |
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| 21:04.24 | Poul|Raider | whats the easiest way to remove the first 2 chars from a string |
| 21:04.45 | nevcairiel | substr |
| 21:05.16 | Poul|Raider | string.sub(txt,2)? |
| 21:05.27 | Nargiddley | ("ABCDEF"):sub(3) |
| 21:06.09 | nevcairiel | you specify start position |
| 21:06.10 | nevcairiel | so yeah, 3 |
| 21:06.19 | Poul|Raider | also the best way thinking of performens, if it was to be called alot of times? |
| 21:06.35 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt know another way to remove those 2 chars tbh |
| 21:06.51 | Poul|Raider | oki :) |
| 21:07.35 | Poul|Raider | or well, i need sub(2) dint think of \n is just one char :D |
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| 21:09.24 | Varazir[NA] | a dume question can I change the langue with a / command ? |
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| 21:10.33 | Varazir[NA] | I mean the chat language |
| 21:11.00 | Varazir[NA] | I have orcish och taurahe |
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| 21:29.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: for some reason, with the crafting button, i can't seem to activate first aid or prospecting. |
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| 21:32.56 | Paene | What happened to CIA bot? |
| 21:33.12 | Paene | nvm |
| 21:33.12 | nevcairiel | nothing |
| 21:33.24 | nevcairiel | it sometimes switches server, or just crashes and reboots |
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| 21:34.51 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: You know I noticed that it screws up if you train something. Were you maxed out or did u train recently? |
| 21:35.01 | NightHawkTheSane | nope, fresh character actually |
| 21:35.17 | NightHawkTheSane | er, well, by fresh i mean, i havn't played the character in weeks, and havn't used the new autobar with them until now |
| 21:35.54 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: ok did u select a unique profile (like char or class) then reset it then reset the bars? |
| 21:36.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it was automatically set to class:warlock, should i switch to char profile or something? |
| 21:37.17 | Toadkiller | warlock is fine |
| 21:37.35 | Toadkiller | Make sure you click reset the bars though so you can pick up the changes & clear out the old crap |
| 21:37.59 | NightHawkTheSane | er, "reset bars"? as in, lose my setup? >< |
| 21:38.15 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r54297 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Tradeskill: frFR Update |
| 21:38.21 | Toadkiller | well if its from a few weeks ago then it is probably fairly corrupt... |
| 21:38.42 | NightHawkTheSane | er, as i said, i havn't used the new autobar on this char at all. |
| 21:39.08 | Toadkiller | Oh well in that case it should just work ... |
| 21:39.16 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 21:39.23 | Fisker- | ~seen zealotonastick |
| 21:39.26 | purl | zealotonastick <n=ZOAS@c-69-246-217-192.hsd1.in.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3d 18h 37m ago, saying: 'explain it to us then.'. |
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| 21:41.46 | Toadkiller | In retrospect I should have just switched to having the defaults key based instead of integer based. |
| 21:42.09 | Paene | How often is the zip script run? |
| 21:42.24 | Toadkiller | 20 minutes on the hour + .... |
| 21:42.30 | Paene | kk |
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| 21:43.12 | kebinusan | I cant seem to find it.. can you set offsets for things in pitbull, such as anchor left but offset 5 pixels |
| 21:43.24 | NightHawkTheSane | so, random tangent, how should i spec my level 15 lock? |
| 21:43.33 | ulic | kebinusan: did you see I wrote a bank mover addon, inspired by you? |
| 21:44.33 | kebinusan | ulic: yeah, I look forward to using it tuesday |
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| 21:45.03 | kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane: instant corruption first, then go down destro through bane imo |
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| 21:48.07 | starlon | Which addon auto-completes item links? Like if I type [target the addon changes it to [Target Dummy] |
| 21:48.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ludwig and linkerator both do, i believe |
| 21:48.31 | starlon | Ah |
| 21:48.37 | starlon | Yeah must be Ludwig then |
| 21:48.42 | starlon | thanks |
| 21:49.43 | [Liquidor] | Is there an addon to stop casting if trying to cast another spell? Like an auto-stopcasting mode? |
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| 21:56.12 | NightHawkTheSane | really, routing problems they say? just noticing this are they? >< |
| 21:56.35 | [Liquidor] | Anyone can read this message? |
| 21:56.50 | Paene | yep |
| 21:57.22 | [Liquidor] | Eh that was great Eng btw. |
| 21:58.41 | Obelixprime | Why would I not be able to reference my table using AceDB |
| 21:59.08 | starlon | out of scope? |
| 21:59.34 | Obelixprime | hmmm |
| 21:59.39 | Obelixprime | don't thinkk so |
| 21:59.47 | Obelixprime | I'll try to figure it out |
| 21:59.51 | kebinusan | Hm, doesnt pitbull allow you to move or offset things from the frames or can you only set things to the various anchor points |
| 22:00.17 | [Liquidor] | Uhm none of you would happen to know of an addon doing /stopcasting on any spell cast? |
| 22:00.34 | kebinusan | Liquidor I dont believe you can, just wait till next patch |
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| 22:12.45 | Jaxon | Toadkiller: in here? |
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| 22:21.49 | Toadkiller | yep |
| 22:22.02 | Zhinjio | oh hell. |
| 22:22.19 | Zhinjio | dealing with foreign characters is a pain in the butt |
| 22:22.27 | Toadkiller | Zhinjio: you were converting hex & got 666? |
| 22:22.33 | Zhinjio | hahhaaha. |
| 22:22.34 | Zhinjio | no. |
| 22:22.59 | Toadkiller | The best way to deal is if they are not escape encoded imo |
| 22:23.03 | Zhinjio | I was doing a hashing algorithm across the names in my roll lists, and made a bad assumption |
| 22:23.10 | Zhinjio | namely: strupper would yield A-Z |
| 22:23.16 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 22:23.23 | Zhinjio | and that there wouldn't be any funky ass characters |
| 22:24.06 | Toadkiller | Even on Proudmoore theres some funky ass European names |
| 22:24.25 | Zhinjio | so once I had a dude named "FROSTITUTÉ" in my list, it blew up |
| 22:24.27 | Toadkiller | Jaxon: did you have a question? |
| 22:24.52 | Toadkiller | Was he a mage? |
| 22:25.12 | Zhinjio | it blew up because strsub couldn't handle doing strsub( name, 11, 11 ) since the character is two bytes |
| 22:25.12 | Jaxon | Toadkiller: was messing around with Autobar. With "Move Buttons" checked, it told me that I can right click to configure buttons. Right click also uses the item in that button, didn't think that was intentional. |
| 22:25.16 | Zhinjio | or something like that. |
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| 22:25.55 | Toadkiller | Jaxon: mmm yeah I need to still make the button config work. At the moment it just uses stuff |
| 22:26.17 | Jaxon | Oh, did I pick a "middle of new feature development" time to try out Autobar? |
| 22:26.45 | nevcairiel | it feels like autobar has been in that state for like a month now |
| 22:27.30 | Toadkiller | Jaxon: No that feature is just not implemented yet. |
| 22:28.27 | Zhinjio | so how can I safely loop across the characters in a name if I can't guarantee that a single character is one byte? |
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| 22:29.15 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 22:29.55 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( strbyte( "abcdeÃagb", 5 ) ) |
| 22:29.55 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 101 |
| 22:30.00 | Toadkiller | Yeah unfortunately I had less time than anticipated to work on AutoBar so its been slow going. The latest release is probably the most stable so far though, judging by the forum posts. |
| 22:30.06 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( strbyte( "abcdeÃagb", 6 ) ) |
| 22:30.07 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 195 |
| 22:30.11 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( strbyte( "abcdeÃagb", 7 ) ) |
| 22:30.11 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 97 |
| 22:30.22 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( strbyte( "abcdeÃagb", 1 ) ) |
| 22:30.22 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 97 |
| 22:30.29 | Zhinjio | interesting. |
| 22:30.47 | Toadkiller | Zhinjio: if it is for a hash then you only need consistent results for a particular string tho right? |
| 22:30.54 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( strlen( "eÃa") ) |
| 22:30.54 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 3 |
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| 22:31.14 | Zhinjio | TK: yes. |
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| 22:33.21 | Zhinjio | I think I'm ok. I just need to adjust the way I'm iterating across the string. I don't need to do strbyte( strsub( )) I can just do strbyte( str, index ) |
| 22:34.23 | Zhinjio | using the full 255 possible values is going to increase the size of my hash string, but... I can mitigate that too. |
| 22:36.18 | Toadkiller | just xor it into a fixed size hash? |
| 22:36.19 | kenlyric | anyone know of a mod like friendfu and guildfu that I can use to watch a chat channel? |
| 22:36.56 | Zhinjio | I've designed a pretty mushy hash algorithm. It isn't perfect, but it should do the trick. |
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| 22:42.38 | Zhinjio | that was good. It only took fixing... 3 lines of code to make it work again. |
| 22:46.01 | CIA-7 | 03arthiceu * r54298 10GearRating/ (Calculate.lua Constants.lua GearRating.toc Public.lua): |
| 22:46.01 | CIA-7 | GearRating: |
| 22:46.01 | CIA-7 | - updating to version 0.2 |
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| 22:57.18 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( fmod( 14, 16 ) ) |
| 22:57.19 | cladbot | Zhinjio: [string "print ( fmod( 14, 16 ) ) "]:1: attempt to call global 'fmod' (a nil value) |
| 22:57.26 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( math.fmod( 14, 16 ) ) |
| 22:57.27 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 14 |
| 22:58.00 | Zhinjio | lua> print ( math.fmod( 64, 16 ) ) |
| 22:58.00 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 0 |
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| 22:58.56 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54299 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 22:58.56 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 22:58.56 | CIA-7 | -Added broom mounts to the mount list |
| 22:59.09 | Primer | Hi. If WAU crashes...could it be due to a configuration issue? |
| 22:59.49 | Primer | I recently installed it onto this laptop running vista...WoW isn't installed from an installer, I simply copied it over from my other box |
| 23:00.06 | Primer | so it doesn't know the path to WoW (it's not in progra~1 |
| 23:00.08 | Primer | ) |
| 23:00.13 | Zhinjio | that can't work. |
| 23:00.20 | dashkal | heh, if you figure out what's doing that, lemme know. Vista + laptop + WAU - fail for me |
| 23:00.23 | Zhinjio | non of the registry magic will have happened. |
| 23:00.35 | Primer | it's enough to play |
| 23:00.37 | dashkal | Zhinjio: Wow doesn't need registry magic |
| 23:00.46 | Primer | everything in the directory |
| 23:00.50 | Zhinjio | oh, ... I misread. I thought he meant he copied over WAU |
| 23:00.51 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 23:00.54 | Primer | I'm just curious if this explains why WAU is crashing |
| 23:01.12 | dashkal | Primer: I get crashes too (among other problems) and my warcraft is in the correct location |
| 23:01.18 | Primer | it's literally seg'ing the .net interpreter |
| 23:01.31 | Primer | I've not been able to run it at all though |
| 23:01.37 | Primer | so I can't even tell it where WoW is |
| 23:01.51 | dashkal | Nice, worse than mine is. I can get itup, it just randomly crashes |
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| 23:02.18 | Primer | so in other words, .net framework isn't all that great |
| 23:02.24 | Primer | I mean, it seems to be a seg fault |
| 23:02.45 | Primer | kinda lame for that to happen in an "interpreted" language |
| 23:02.50 | dashkal | It's M$ trying to copy java... I expect nothing else |
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| 23:04.21 | sdubble | are there any addons that track how many kills you've had in a single combat session? I'd also like to know how much experience was gained. |
| 23:04.48 | dashkal | sdubble: ExperienceFu tells me the xp gained this session |
| 23:05.03 | sdubble | yeah, but I'm not a fan of resetting it before combat each time |
| 23:05.09 | kenlyric | sdubble: and you can reset the session when you wish. |
| 23:05.09 | sdubble | that's what I've been using |
| 23:05.24 | kenlyric | ah, never had a use for that. |
| 23:05.47 | kenlyric | typically only kill 1 or 2 things before going out of combat again. |
| 23:05.50 | sdouble | yeah, I'm leveling a prot pally and I've been in combat for 25 minutes once |
| 23:05.59 | sdouble | at level 36 |
| 23:06.00 | kenlyric | you want a PVP "Killing Streak" mod? |
| 23:06.03 | kenlyric | ah. |
| 23:06.05 | kenlyric | fun. |
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| 23:08.01 | sdouble | http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/d207f4654710de5dcbb40d2645bb17ae8dcf9675.png |
| 23:08.53 | tinyboom | anyone know of a dedicated lightweight death counters? |
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| 23:09.39 | Lukian | tinyboom, violation is damn light |
| 23:10.31 | Lukian | sdouble, lol what is that a shot of? :D |
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| 23:14.36 | tinyboom | Lukian: no deathcounter in it :( already have it:p |
| 23:14.55 | Lukian | oh really? :o |
| 23:15.09 | Lukian | I thought there was, not that I ever use it |
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| 23:15.38 | vhaarr | tinyboom: make a module for it then, it's really easy |
| 23:15.54 | Lukian | or pay vhaarr monies to do it for you? :D |
| 23:20.06 | _rane | in pitbull.. how can i delete texts that i have added on frames? |
| 23:23.30 | Zhinjio | ok, hashing function is now working correctly. |
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| 23:25.26 | Varazir[NA] | Toadkiller: It worked much beter after reseting the profile |
| 23:26.41 | tinyboom | vhaarr: wanna teach me how to code? ;) (gonna check it out at least) :) |
| 23:27.23 | Diao | i think vhaarr should change NRT to delete stuff when it's ctrl-clicked so i can shift-click link stuff to guild from the list :) |
| 23:27.26 | vhaarr | tinyboom: you don't need any help, everything you need to know is in the "Decursing" and "Dispelling" modules + the Parser-3.0 wiki page |
| 23:27.37 | vhaarr | Diao: haha yeah that has annoyed me a bit as well |
| 23:27.58 | vhaarr | I will note that down |
| 23:28.21 | Diao | the other day i wasn't thinking and someone asked me to link stuff from raid and i shift clicked without thinking |
| 23:28.22 | Diao | lol |
| 23:28.50 | vhaarr | ye :P |
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| 23:42.07 | Obelixprime | i'm having some difficulty getting AceDB to work.. I don't have a namespace setup, could that be a problem? |
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| 23:43.21 | CIA-7 | 03gobaresch * r54300 10AHDND/ (4 files): |
| 23:43.21 | CIA-7 | AHDND: Added an option to go into DND or AFK automatically when the Player |
| 23:43.21 | CIA-7 | enters or leaves an instance. Currently this event may also fire each time the |
| 23:43.21 | CIA-7 | loading Screen was visible. This is still under investigation. INSTANCEMODE is |
| 23:43.21 | CIA-7 | the parameter added to access this option. This option is deactivated by |
| 23:43.22 | CIA-7 | default. |
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