| 00:00.22 | phawx | are there any ace2 addons similar to Lootfilter? |
| 00:00.23 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i dont like making fun of blizzard developers. that shit isn't trivial. |
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| 00:00.47 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: not trivial? howso? |
| 00:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean mmog programming. |
| 00:01.26 | Pkekyo | ofcourse not |
| 00:01.55 | Pkekyo | but with some of the changes they make, I can't help getting the impression that they're all absolute arsehats |
| 00:02.08 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 00:02.23 | NightHawkTheSane | you're probably mostly confusing designers and/or QA with developers. |
| 00:02.27 | _rane | is it possible that CattleProd is incompatible with Fubar_ReportAFK because newest version CattleProd is not working for me |
| 00:02.40 | NightHawkTheSane | or, alternately, project leads who say "ship it!" when there's plenty of known bugs |
| 00:02.44 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: care to elaborate? |
| 00:03.27 | Nerox | Is SellJunk bugged right now? everytime I go to sell all my grey items it sells everything but 2 grey items. Meaning if I have broken boar tusk, primitive rock tool, pet rock and something else it'll sell two but keep 2. Even when I manually click the button. |
| 00:03.37 | NightHawkTheSane | designers are the ones who tell the developers -what- to program. QA (Quality Assurance) tests the code for bugs. |
| 00:03.48 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r55206 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc): NextStep: update guildbank tooltip |
| 00:03.55 | Pkekyo | ok, I mean designers then |
| 00:04.00 | NightHawkTheSane | see, there you go. :P |
| 00:04.09 | NightHawkTheSane | chances are the developers are not making decisions about what goes into the game. |
| 00:04.14 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r55207 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.lua WhoDrop.toc WhoDropData_ETC.lua): WhoDrop - update guildbank tooltip, add data |
| 00:05.01 | Pkekyo | well, the QA people are complete arsehats too, but designers even more |
| 00:05.25 | Ellipsis | you know what I want? Clique for the AH. |
| 00:05.36 | Ellipsis | modified clicks on an auction listing will bid/buyout |
| 00:05.46 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r55208 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 00:05.46 | CIA-4 | Babble-2.2: |
| 00:05.46 | CIA-4 | - Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua : update koKR |
| 00:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | and, it's even hard to blame QA people, cause chances are they do find the bugs. but the management decides to release the product with various known bugs anyway |
| 00:06.57 | Pkekyo | well, it's common knowledge that all people in management are arsehats |
| 00:07.06 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 00:07.39 | Pkekyo | :p |
| 00:07.45 | Zhinjio | ckknight: does the receiving player need to do anything special on his/her end to receive layouts from me? |
| 00:07.53 | ckknight | no |
| 00:07.57 | Zhinjio | the ones I sent are not appearing in her lists. |
| 00:07.57 | ckknight | just have PitBull |
| 00:08.00 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 00:09.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: the takeaway, though, is that really, it's a vast mistake to lay the blame at any one person, or even any one group of people. Most of the people at blizzard are honestly just trying to do the best job they can, and make the best game they can. sometimes they make mistakes, everyone does. but some things can't be laid at the feet of any one person or group. |
| 00:11.10 | Xinhuan | ckknight, any plans on fixing the myriad stuff in cartographer? |
| 00:11.18 | ckknight | myriad stuff? |
| 00:11.28 | Ellipsis | I thought the instance maps were the only seriously broken stuff |
| 00:11.36 | Xinhuan | look-n-feel settings aren't saving, instancemaps are broken i think |
| 00:11.37 | ckknight | yea, I was planning on fixing that, Ellipsis |
| 00:11.48 | Xinhuan | not sure if loon-n-feel settings problem was fixed by arrowmaster yet |
| 00:11.52 | ckknight | it was |
| 00:12.01 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: but...that's no fun :< |
| 00:12.02 | ckknight | was a dependency issue |
| 00:12.04 | Xinhuan | there's an issue with it too where if the map is open |
| 00:12.05 | Arrowmaster | i fixed instance maps last night too |
| 00:12.13 | Xinhuan | it prevents the user from moving or something |
| 00:12.35 | Arrowmaster | although the fix sucked |
| 00:12.35 | Xinhuan | is that fixed? |
| 00:12.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: yeah, hey, who am i to say you can't have fun at the expense of reasonably honest hard working people. |
| 00:12.35 | Arrowmaster | i can move around fine if my map is open |
| 00:12.39 | ckknight | currently I'm working on a pet project: a BDD framework for lua |
| 00:12.42 | Xinhuan | what was the issue with instancemaps actually? |
| 00:12.47 | Xinhuan | BDD? |
| 00:13.21 | Arrowmaster | data needed to be re 'extracted' from the mpqs |
| 00:13.30 | ckknight | behavior-driven development |
| 00:13.45 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, so blizzard assumably updated their maps? |
| 00:13.48 | Arrowmaster | but the script to do it is outdated so the maps suck ass now |
| 00:14.10 | Arrowmaster | most of the maps should be fine |
| 00:14.11 | [AR]Camci | login server down :/ |
| 00:14.33 | Xinhuan | they wouldn't really need to be reextracted if they didn't update it somehow |
| 00:14.50 | |Stan| | [AR]Camci: yup |
| 00:14.50 | Arrowmaster | some maps were unchanged |
| 00:15.14 | Arrowmaster | some appear to be unchanged but the references to the map files changed |
| 00:15.21 | Arrowmaster | and other are a lot different |
| 00:15.39 | Xinhuan | which instances were very different? |
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| 00:16.16 | Xinhuan | i have to say blizzard must be really bored or something if they went back to update lvl 1-59 instances |
| 00:16.28 | Xinhuan | that didn't really needed updating |
| 00:16.42 | Arrowmaster | ok its really hard to show you |
| 00:16.50 | Arrowmaster | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua?%40diffMode=y&%40diffWrap=h&r1=51782&r2=55093&u=3&ignore=&k= |
| 00:16.57 | Arrowmaster | look at the first line |
| 00:17.10 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: it -really- needed updating...leveling is a bloody pain after TBC launched |
| 00:17.10 | Arrowmaster | its a LOT easyer to see using a diff tool like winmerge |
| 00:17.25 | Xinhuan | ouch |
| 00:17.26 | Arrowmaster | line 24 in that dif |
| 00:17.40 | Arrowmaster | the x y and z are the same |
| 00:17.43 | Arrowmaster | but the tex is different |
| 00:17.49 | todd` | anyone else having a problem with cycircled? cyCircled\core.lua:311: attempt to call method 'GetCheckedTexture' (a nil value) |
| 00:18.02 | Xinhuan | are these numbers extracted from some .dbc file? |
| 00:18.15 | Arrowmaster | like every line for the AQ40 map is like that, all the xyz's are the same but the tex's are different |
| 00:18.28 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: yeah using the pack.lua in instancemaps |
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| 00:18.35 | Arrowmaster | but that pack.lua is old |
| 00:18.37 | xyu | 1102 addons. i remember when WAU showed 403 |
| 00:18.43 | Orionshock | lua> local a = true; return not a |
| 00:18.43 | lua_bot | Orionshock: false |
| 00:18.53 | Xinhuan | ~slap Orionshock |
| 00:18.54 | purl | ACTION slaps Orionshock, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 00:18.56 | Xinhuan | what did you expect |
| 00:19.01 | Orionshock | nil |
| 00:19.09 | Arrowmaster | the karazhan map seems to be missing a few things on it which makes it a little harder to read |
| 00:19.19 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: i just didn't know... im sorry |
| 00:19.20 | Ellipsis | why would not true be nil? |
| 00:19.20 | Arrowmaster | the naxx map is completely fucked up |
| 00:19.38 | xyu | Do you have to have atlas to have atlasLoot? |
| 00:19.52 | Arrowmaster | xyu: no |
| 00:19.57 | Xinhuan | the naxx map lol |
| 00:20.00 | Xinhuan | i just took a look |
| 00:20.10 | xyu | carto doesn't show trash mob drops so i think i'll try atlasloot |
| 00:20.30 | Xinhuan | xyu: use atlasloot, it shows a lot more stuff than you really want it to ;p |
| 00:20.34 | Xinhuan | like arena season gear |
| 00:20.36 | xyu | hah |
| 00:20.37 | Xinhuan | pvp gear |
| 00:20.41 | Xinhuan | and tier set gear |
| 00:20.44 | Arrowmaster | other than the karazhan map i think, all the TBC maps should basicly be exactly the same or have the same xyz's but different tex's |
| 00:21.00 | Arrowmaster | although a few seem to have some xyz's have a value off just slightly |
| 00:21.12 | Xinhuan | where is this pack.lua |
| 00:21.31 | Xinhuan | nvm found it |
| 00:21.55 | Arrowmaster | some of the pre TBC instance maps got a lot of stuff changed so the size seems to be different, like blackfathom |
| 00:21.55 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I'll play with it more later on my two machines, but the "send-in-game" doesn't seem to be working for my friend. She's not receiving what I sned. I suspect some user error on her part. |
| 00:22.01 | Zhinjio | but I'll let you know what I find. |
| 00:22.06 | ckknight | pebkac ftw |
| 00:22.19 | Zhinjio | yeah, prolly. |
| 00:22.23 | Xinhuan | isn't that pack.lua relying on the known data structure of the wmo files? |
| 00:22.23 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: theres an option that needs to be enabled afaik to accept notes |
| 00:22.31 | Zhinjio | in pitbull? |
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| 00:22.41 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: thats why it uses the other file too |
| 00:23.49 | Arrowmaster | im not sure what changed in the aq20 map but its quite hard to read and fugly |
| 00:24.18 | Xinhuan | i wonder if they actually screwed up the naxx map |
| 00:24.27 | Xinhuan | rather than it being a outdated pack.lua |
| 00:24.42 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 00:25.12 | Arrowmaster | but the pack.lua doesnt even have black temple in it and i created that fine |
| 00:26.14 | Xinhuan | the ZA map looks ok |
| 00:26.23 | Arrowmaster | could be better |
| 00:26.28 | Xinhuan | just doesn't have the boss locations yet |
| 00:26.41 | Arrowmaster | i couldnt really tell much detail from the ZA map |
| 00:26.47 | Arrowmaster | like paths |
| 00:27.38 | Xinhuan | is this map the same one used in the minimap? |
| 00:27.51 | Xinhuan | it could really go into huge detail if it does |
| 00:27.53 | Hotphoenix | finding your way around in za to start off with is probably the hardest part |
| 00:28.15 | Arrowmaster | i still havent done za although my guild has cleared it |
| 00:28.18 | Xinhuan | i remember an addon called YAtlas |
| 00:28.24 | Xinhuan | it was quite cool |
| 00:28.38 | Xinhuan | but also quite pointless once you knew the zone |
| 00:29.00 | Arrowmaster | i think yatlas did something similair to how instancemaps works |
| 00:29.25 | Xinhuan | YAtlas is able to "load" the map as you scroll around in it |
| 00:29.37 | Xinhuan | like they would be loaded on demand as you scrolled the map inside YAtlas |
| 00:30.00 | Xinhuan | kinda like google maps if you get what i mean |
| 00:30.13 | Xinhuan | no idea how it did it |
| 00:30.28 | Arrowmaster | probably had a huge file of textures and xyz's, and as you scrolled it just loaded up the ones that were needed |
| 00:30.43 | Xinhuan | it even had a "scroll to your current position" |
| 00:30.44 | Xinhuan | button |
| 00:31.06 | Xinhuan | that works on either of the 3 continents (kalimdor, EK, Outlands) |
| 00:31.51 | Xinhuan | last i looked in Yatlas (which was over 6 months ago), it didn't have any data files |
| 00:32.04 | Xinhuan | meaning no data of any X Y Z or textures or coordinates |
| 00:34.02 | Orionshock | ok.. no if only i can get the "get" and "set" functions to work in AceConfig, that's be nice |
| 00:34.19 | Grum | it does have it Xinhuan - mapdb.lua |
| 00:34.22 | Grum | its ~300kb bit |
| 00:34.23 | Nargiddley | whats not working Orionshock ? |
| 00:34.24 | Grum | *big |
| 00:34.29 | Xinhuan | ah |
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| 00:34.41 | Grum | Yatlas_mapdb1 = { |
| 00:34.41 | Grum | ["Azeroth"] = { |
| 00:34.41 | Grum | ["24x53"] = {"67ba43d493e62a8fad5de319e6d4cb05", {33,256}}, |
| 00:34.41 | Grum | ["24x54"] = {"67ba43d493e62a8fad5de319e6d4cb05", {33,256}}, |
| 00:34.44 | Grum | it contains :) |
| 00:34.56 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: ... well there is a difference in an inline func that does it right, and one that dosn't actualy return the value :D |
| 00:35.24 | Grum | http://endif.cjb.net/wowui/download.cgi/Yatlas/ & -> bed |
| 00:35.29 | Nargiddley | ah, yeah that helps a bit |
| 00:35.39 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: get = function() **return** mod:IsNPCEnabled( L["Sky Sergeant Doryn"] ) end, |
| 00:35.43 | Orionshock | missing return |
| 00:36.04 | Orionshock | but fuck me, those tables are a bitch to build... |
| 00:39.34 | Hjalte | Hmm, all eu realms down? |
| 00:39.44 | |Stan| | login servers |
| 00:39.51 | Hjalte | Oh. Sucks. |
| 00:40.20 | Etern | Anyone using jwowupdater know if it's possible to prevent an addon from being updated? |
| 00:42.59 | [AR]Camci | a question, just saw curse will show wowace addons and such on their client |
| 00:43.13 | [AR]Camci | will WAU show addons that is in curse website? |
| 00:43.20 | [AR]Camci | (those that is not in wowace) |
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| 00:44.56 | Xinhuan | probably not |
| 00:45.22 | Wobin | ps |
| 00:45.23 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2969688265&sid=1 |
| 00:45.23 | Wobin | win |
| 00:45.26 | Xinhuan | the reason why curse will show wowace addons is that in the future, wowace is getting updated to be able to publish to curse directly |
| 00:45.52 | Pkekyo | why does people trying to escape from reality always say things twice? 'shut your eyes, shut your eyes....... it's just a bad dream, it's just a bad dream........' |
| 00:45.54 | [AR]Camci | whats gonna happen with wowace then ? |
| 00:46.11 | Wobin | DRUID: This fight is for those that say "OH NO WHY IS ANIMALS ON MY FACE?!" |
| 00:46.21 | Xinhuan | same as ever, its just that addon authors can easily decide to "tag" their addons to be updated to curse |
| 00:46.28 | [AR]Camci | ooh |
| 00:46.30 | [AR]Camci | i see |
| 00:46.32 | Xinhuan | and its automated |
| 00:46.40 | Ellipsis | Wobin: old |
| 00:46.43 | Xinhuan | without having to zip up and upload manually, etc |
| 00:46.56 | [AR]Camci | cheers |
| 00:47.24 | Wobin | Ellipsis: and by old you mean... 3 days? |
| 00:47.42 | Ellipsis | by old I mean mudkips posted it in here a couple hours ago |
| 00:47.57 | [AR]Camci | i dont really use addons from curse anyway, maybe 2-3 like Druid Bar, Natur EnemyCastBar, rest is from wowace :p |
| 00:48.04 | Wobin | That doesn't count |
| 00:48.06 | Wobin | he's forn |
| 00:48.16 | bigzero | do you guys think a library that would provide trade skill links would be useful? As far as I know there is no way to do it using Blizzard's provided functions (assuming you don't have the skill) nor is there such a lib already, but I could be wrong |
| 00:48.46 | Ellipsis | there's an API func to get it from your own tradeskills |
| 00:48.58 | Ellipsis | not sure why you'd really need them for other people's |
| 00:49.01 | Xinhuan | bigzero: it might be useful to a couple of addons specific to tradeskills, maybe, but i can't really see that much use for it? |
| 00:49.18 | todd` | I'm trying to attach a lua script to an eePanel to show/hide it when the mouse is/isn't over it - is there an event or function I can use for that? |
| 00:50.01 | Wobin | bigzero: probably not. The number of addons that would use it are minimal, and they'd be better off doing it themselves I'd say, since most people wouldn't have more than one addon that would use that functionalit |
| 00:50.27 | bigzero | I was going to use it for my own addon and then there's ackisRecipeList, which could be much improved using such a lib |
| 00:50.42 | aestil_ | i doin't like cooldowntimer2 |
| 00:50.46 | bigzero | The thing is, I already wrote it up and now i'm just wondering if it's worth uploading |
| 00:50.52 | [AR]Camci | Anyone tried Recap and know if you can save the log so you can see it outside game aswell ? |
| 00:50.54 | Ellipsis | AckisRecipeList doesn't touch tradeskill links |
| 00:51.05 | bigzero | true, but it could |
| 00:51.11 | Ellipsis | not really any benefit |
| 00:51.15 | Wobin | bigzero: Ask yourself, how many addons that a single person would use would share that functionality? |
| 00:51.17 | Pkekyo | aestil: because? |
| 00:51.20 | Ellipsis | it's only concerned with recipe-learned creations |
| 00:51.30 | Ellipsis | so it doesn't need tradeskill links, the recipes contain all necessary info |
| 00:52.04 | Wobin | It's not really a functionality that most people would want duplicated over multiple addons, since it's used so specifically |
| 00:52.05 | bigzero | you know how it lists the missing recipes? it could list the links |
| 00:52.30 | Wobin | bigzero: you're missing the point =) |
| 00:52.33 | Pkekyo | I'm off, g'nite all |
| 00:53.11 | Ellipsis | bigzero: yeah, but there's no benefit to doing it that way |
| 00:53.21 | Ellipsis | except to make use of your lib |
| 00:53.25 | bigzero | no, i understand what you're saying wobin. That's why i was hesitant to upload it. I realize that like only 4 addons would end up using it |
| 00:53.25 | Ellipsis | which doesn't really justify its existence :P |
| 00:55.02 | Wobin | bigzero: just in general, it's probably not worth making -into- a library in the first place |
| 00:55.08 | Wobin | just have it as part of the addon itself |
| 01:03.13 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:03.19 | Diao | does anyone know how to use the bank log on armory |
| 01:03.20 | Diao | i'm logged in |
| 01:03.23 | Diao | but it doesn't show the transaction log |
| 01:03.29 | Diao | it just says 346 transactions found |
| 01:04.21 | Diao | i'm the GM so it should give me full access o_o |
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| 01:07.43 | Orionshock | nymbia: hello there, question for you, are you still maintaining Tattle? |
| 01:08.12 | nymbia | Orionshock: if it's broke, i'll fix it, yeah. what's up? |
| 01:08.20 | Orionshock | tool tip bug iirc |
| 01:08.22 | Diao | gah |
| 01:08.24 | Diao | i don't understand :( |
| 01:08.50 | Orionshock | but the dataminer has lost krin-tor, but i think that's more because it's stuck and needs to be rebuilt from scratch |
| 01:08.54 | [AR]Camci | Recount and other dmg meter addons uses loads of memory to save data and such if im not misstaken... does this affect the performance or the fps at all or ? |
| 01:09.09 | JoshBorke | [AR]Camci: try them and see |
| 01:09.20 | nymbia | Orionshock: hrm.. did it switch battlegroups or something? |
| 01:09.26 | JoshBorke | [AR]Camci: for most people it shouldn't but it could if you don't have a lot of memory or if the system is already bogged down |
| 01:09.28 | Orionshock | no, just got loast |
| 01:09.31 | Orionshock | *lost |
| 01:09.38 | JoshBorke | [AR]Camci: the increased memory usage leads to more garbage collection |
| 01:10.58 | [AR]Camci | JoshBorke: I used Recount before, but i already have like... heh 228 folders in my addon folder. I removed recount cuz i didnt want the performance to lower in raids and such, but as far as i could see it didnt make any difference |
| 01:11.08 | [AR]Camci | so i might try it again and see if it does |
| 01:12.03 | cralor_ | [AR]Camci: with 228 addons, there must be some feature overlap =] |
| 01:12.31 | [AR]Camci | actually most of them is Lib stuff i think :P |
| 01:13.00 | [AR]Camci | i think i got around 100 different addons, and its really anoying when you check throu them all to see which ones you can remove but you cant cuz you need them all :P |
| 01:13.13 | [AR]Camci | or you are just used to it so you cant remove it :P |
| 01:13.36 | [AR]Camci | sucks to be a raid leader :( |
| 01:13.37 | Orionshock | core.lua:368: unexpected symbol near 'local' |
| 01:13.37 | buubot | Orionshock: Module .lua:368: does not appear to be in core. Perhaps capitalization matters or try using the 'cpan' command to search for it. |
| 01:13.38 | Orionshock | ? |
| 01:13.50 | [AR]Camci | think i could remove like 5-10 addons if i didnt lead raids :P |
| 01:13.51 | cralor_ | <---- wishes i could use 100 addons |
| 01:14.09 | cralor_ | lol. i don't even have 1GB of ram. |
| 01:14.20 | [AR]Camci | i got 1 GB |
| 01:14.26 | [AR]Camci | works okish :p |
| 01:14.32 | cralor_ | i have 512mb =] |
| 01:14.39 | [AR]Camci | get 512 more :P |
| 01:14.46 | cralor_ | (with BC, the minimum went up to 1) |
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| 01:15.15 | cralor_ | i thought about it, but there is really no point. with this old junk comp (2001) it is better to just get a whole new comp |
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| 01:15.20 | Etern | Orionshock: when you run the dataminer for tattle. How long time does it spend on each team? |
| 01:15.30 | Orionshock | 30s |
| 01:15.38 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.42 | cralor_ | the monitor is small, the videocard sucks, powersupply is too bad to withstand more upgrades, etc. |
| 01:16.06 | [AR]Camci | lol |
| 01:16.34 | cralor_ | can't believe i can get up to 20 fps lol |
| 01:16.36 | Etern | Orionshock: thanks, then I'm definately doing something wrong. Started out with one minute, then it just skyrocketed from there. |
| 01:17.07 | Orionshock | when wow starts puking on random things because it dosn't like the syntax tho it looks perfectly fine... it's time to take another "Im Not Crazy" pill |
| 01:17.49 | cralor_ | but once i had to make a 1024x768 resolution for the Compilation i use (yes, i got a 15inch screen) and i had to enable the whole pack, and i was so froze up at 1 fps it took 10 disconnects before i could make it through |
| 01:18.16 | [AR]Camci | lmao |
| 01:18.30 | Orionshock | <-- 21" wide |
| 01:18.42 | cralor_ | i would log on, and i just sat there... it would move every 20 secs and d/c |
| 01:18.43 | aestil_ | <-1920x1200 |
| 01:18.55 | [AR]Camci | <-- 24" |
| 01:18.57 | cralor_ | aestil_: translation? |
| 01:19.31 | cralor_ | i'm saving up to build my own comp =] |
| 01:20.03 | aestil_ | wtf. why am I underscore? |
| 01:20.31 | cralor_ | i am because i forgot the password i made for "cralor" so i couldn't pm lol |
| 01:20.39 | *** join/#wowace aestil (n=holycall@cpe-72-129-101-88.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 01:23.23 | Poof | hm. Hey.. What UI mod do ya'll like best? |
| 01:24.52 | aestil | lol |
| 01:24.57 | Poof | I mean... |
| 01:24.59 | Poof | Overall UI change =p |
| 01:25.01 | Poof | aestil... |
| 01:25.07 | aestil | lol |
| 01:25.10 | Poof | =( |
| 01:25.32 | |Stan| | hyperChipmunk: http://ace.pastey.net/77521 <- :( |
| 01:25.34 | Hotphoenix | photeks pack is my favourite |
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| 01:28.15 | Orionshock | i swear i've got an encoding bug |
| 01:31.21 | CIA-4 | 03sayclub * r55209 10Squeenix/Hidebuttons.lua: |
| 01:31.21 | CIA-4 | Squeenix: |
| 01:31.22 | CIA-4 | - update koKR localization |
| 01:33.20 | Orionshock | whats the eol control code? CRLF |
| 01:35.38 | CIA-4 | 03ricowan * r55210 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc): RicoMiniMap: Fixed tracker button, updated version |
| 01:36.15 | CIA-4 | 03ricowan * r55211 10FuBar_RicoXPFu/FuBar_RicoXPFu.toc: FuBar_RicoXPFu: - Updated version |
| 01:37.17 | CIA-4 | 03nemes * r55212 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Autobar.lua NShakedown.toc StandardUI.lua): |
| 01:37.17 | CIA-4 | NShakedown: |
| 01:37.17 | CIA-4 | - TOC bump to 2.3 |
| 01:37.17 | CIA-4 | - Fix Autobar |
| 01:37.17 | CIA-4 | - Fix StandardUI raid warnings - thanks Shinja for the fix! |
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| 01:40.33 | Orionshock | help! |
| 01:40.41 | Orionshock | need some one to reencode a file of mine |
| 01:40.50 | Orionshock | i think i fucked the UTF-8 on it |
| 01:40.51 | Orionshock | :( |
| 01:41.02 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 01:41.06 | nevcairiel | which? |
| 01:41.26 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies5/core.lua |
| 01:41.29 | Orionshock | that one |
| 01:41.49 | Orionshock | im getting things like " core.lua:345: '(' expected near 'addon' " |
| 01:41.55 | nevcairiel | why does it need to be utf 8? |
| 01:42.05 | Orionshock | where that line is "function addon:OnInit()" |
| 01:42.40 | Orionshock | need UTF8 no, need unified encoding yes - and what i have i can't seem to get it do do that |
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| 01:44.48 | nevcairiel | oh btw, doing self.db = {} is pointless, and only creates one garbage table |
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| 01:46.49 | CIA-4 | 03sorren * r55213 10SEasyRotation/SEasyRotation.lua: SEasyRotation: |
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| 01:48.16 | Orionshock | ... ya trying to get something to sequence properly and wasn't working |
| 01:48.36 | Orionshock | encoding is still fucked tho :( |
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| 01:48.48 | Sole | sup yo |
| 01:48.49 | CIA-4 | 03nemes * r55214 10NShakedown/ (Addons/MSBT.lua NShakedown.toc): |
| 01:48.49 | CIA-4 | NShakedown: |
| 01:48.49 | CIA-4 | - remove MSBT... I can't figure that addon out |
| 01:48.52 | Sole | ~seen ckknight |
| 01:49.01 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #norganna #wowace. Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 1h 26m 55s, last said: 'pebkac ftw'. |
| 01:49.01 | nevcairiel | btw, your file actually is UTF-8 |
| 01:49.05 | Sole | omghi |
| 01:49.10 | ckknight | why don't people just say hi first? |
| 01:49.16 | ckknight | instead of relying on ~seen |
| 01:49.24 | Sole | because I wanted to know if you were alive |
| 01:49.35 | ckknight | barely |
| 01:49.40 | Sole | :( |
| 01:50.03 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: ... but it's not working for some reason... |
| 01:50.14 | Orionshock | it dosn't like the : in my init function |
| 01:50.23 | Sole | why are you barely alive ck? |
| 01:50.37 | ckknight | assorted reasons |
| 01:51.01 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (n=s_m@router.dobruska.cz) |
| 01:51.07 | Sole | crazy drugged out sex orgies keeping you up all night? |
| 01:51.14 | ckknight | if only |
| 01:52.41 | Sole | Im out of ideas then |
| 01:53.29 | Orionshock | ok now i feel like a dumbass, table in the main file scope should not have a ' , ' at the end of them .... |
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| 01:56.28 | Sole | wow electrolysis isnt as hard as I first thought it was |
| 01:56.43 | Kemayo | cladhaire: I'm getting "action was blocked" messages blaming taint from DoubleWide. |
| 01:57.06 | Kemayo | cladhaire: http://ace.pastey.net/77528 |
| 01:58.00 | cladhaire | okay, I dont' have anything to do with doublewide.. |
| 01:58.27 | Sole | isnt that error for iriel to see? |
| 01:58.29 | cladhaire | its probably not using the attribute system for ui panels, if i had to guess. |
| 01:58.40 | cladhaire | Sole: iriel or kudane, considering they are the authors. |
| 01:59.42 | Kemayo | cladhaire: Oops, I'm sorry. My memory is obviously going. |
| 01:59.48 | cladhaire | not a problem |
| 01:59.52 | cladhaire | just want to make sure you get to the right people |
| 01:59.57 | cladhaire | i've passed it on to iriel |
| 02:01.45 | nevcairiel | the issue with doublewide is, that it modifies a global var that contains the value how many entries the questlog scrollframe contains |
| 02:01.49 | nevcairiel | no way around that |
| 02:01.53 | nevcairiel | but it taints |
| 02:01.59 | cladhaire | there is a way around it |
| 02:02.04 | cladhaire | posting the log for blizzard to see, so they can protect things |
| 02:02.06 | cladhaire | this has been done |
| 02:02.19 | nevcairiel | ya thats a way .. :) |
| 02:02.30 | nevcairiel | but not one a addon author can fix by themself |
| 02:02.35 | cladhaire | nope |
| 02:02.41 | cladhaire | that's why slouken asked for this process :P |
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| 02:05.54 | mjc | hey all. |
| 02:06.18 | khang_ | hai |
| 02:06.43 | CIA-4 | 03nymbia * r55215 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua: |
| 02:06.43 | CIA-4 | SpellBinder: |
| 02:06.43 | CIA-4 | - Put a message in the dewdrop for the List button that it's busted at the moment. |
| 02:06.43 | CIA-4 | - Bug report at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2971961156&postId=29492367506 |
| 02:06.56 | Sole | hi2u |
| 02:07.08 | Sole | nymbia: harro |
| 02:07.13 | CIA-4 | 03durcyn * r55216 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Misc/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Misc.lua: LibPeriodicTable-3.1: fix malformed QuestMats.Ahn'Qiraj |
| 02:07.16 | nymbia | Sole: what up |
| 02:07.20 | Sole | nymbia: hi2u |
| 02:07.28 | Sole | nymbia: Ive got an idea for quartz qtpi |
| 02:07.34 | nymbia | odang |
| 02:07.55 | nevcairiel | you talk crazytalk |
| 02:08.12 | Sole | maybe you done it alrady |
| 02:08.14 | Sole | I should check the logs |
| 02:08.33 | nymbia | i havent done much of anything with quartz lately |
| 02:08.36 | Sole | hang on, I'll go check the logs before I make a fool of myself |
| 02:09.16 | [Horde]Tricksy | *gets popcorn* |
| 02:10.20 | Sole | hay you |
| 02:10.37 | Sole | nymbia: ok it doesnt appear like youve added it |
| 02:10.52 | Sole | nymbia: Buff module, yaknow how you show debuffs of target/focus? |
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| 02:11.02 | Sole | nymbia: yet you only show buffs if theyre a friendly |
| 02:11.06 | xerawx | does SCT have something built in to display cooldowns that i'm just not seeing or do i have another addon reporting to SCT.. : \ |
| 02:11.25 | khang_ | xerawx, you probably have another addon |
| 02:11.29 | khang_ | scT_cooldowns or somethin |
| 02:11.51 | xerawx | yeah i must |
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| 02:13.16 | Sole_ | nymbia: sorry got dc |
| 02:13.30 | Sole_ | nymbia: did you get to hear my brilliant idea which is very original? |
| 02:13.43 | nymbia | Sole_: wait i don't show buffs? |
| 02:13.56 | Sole_ | nymbia: as far as I can tell I dont see enemy buffs |
| 02:14.04 | Sole_ | maybe Im just not paying attention :( |
| 02:14.18 | nymbia | Sole_: crap, did they change something in the API then? |
| 02:14.27 | nymbia | looks like |
| 02:14.33 | Sole_ | nymbia: they made it so you can see enemy buffs in 2.3 |
| 02:14.51 | Sole_ | have you stopped playing or something? :P |
| 02:15.18 | nymbia | i still play, but not too often ;) |
| 02:15.33 | Sole_ | :P |
| 02:16.32 | Sole_ | only problem I see is that it could easily be filled up with useless buffs |
| 02:17.13 | CIA-4 | 03scorpio0920 * r55218 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ZulAman/Zuljin.lua: |
| 02:17.14 | CIA-4 | Threat-1.0: |
| 02:17.14 | CIA-4 | - Zuljin: Update zhTW translation. (Thanks DeepVoice) |
| 02:18.49 | Sole_ | btw great games I recommend: Stranglehold, Crysis and The Witcher |
| 02:18.53 | Sole_ | all really fun :) |
| 02:19.22 | khang_ | as i've heard :) |
| 02:19.50 | Sole_ | Crysis is beautiful |
| 02:20.01 | Sole_ | I run it maxed out and its staggering |
| 02:21.17 | kenlyric | send computer. |
| 02:22.31 | Wobin | Portal =) |
| 02:22.43 | Wobin | hm |
| 02:26.56 | khang_ | i suggest you make more. |
| 02:28.20 | kenlyric | I'll open blue, you open orange |
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| 02:29.00 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley * r55219 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins_ItemOps.lua): |
| 02:29.00 | CIA-4 | Baggins: Fix nil error when a non-cached item was added to your bags |
| 02:29.00 | CIA-4 | Add 2.3 Item Types to filtering, needs localization |
| 02:29.10 | kenlyric | wait to see that as a pickup line on your favorite sitcoms. |
| 02:32.38 | ckknight | what's the best MPQ-extracting program for Windows? |
| 02:32.57 | CIA-4 | 03rabbit * r55220 10BulkMail2/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:32.57 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2: |
| 02:32.57 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.57 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.04 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: ^ |
| 02:34.05 | khang_ | :o ckknight |
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| 02:38.29 | kebinusan | winmpq is th eonly one that comes to mind |
| 02:38.44 | CIA-4 | 03rabbit * r55221 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: InstanceLoot: Convert to PT3.1. |
| 02:39.04 | aestil | speaking of winamp, is there a plugin to control foobar from in game? |
| 02:39.25 | aestil | what is pt3.1? |
| 02:39.35 | aestil | nymbia? |
| 02:40.19 | |Stan| | yay for that commit |
| 02:40.52 | Kemayo | vhaarr: hyperChipmunk was talking about removing PT3 from BulkMail entirely. The new in-game categories are much improved... |
| 02:41.10 | Wobin | hm |
| 02:41.26 | vhaarr | Kemayo: I don't care, not like it was much work for me to convert it |
| 02:41.26 | Wobin | much improved to a point though |
| 02:41.41 | vhaarr | and I still think they're valuable enough to keep |
| 02:41.45 | Wobin | they're physical categories |
| 02:41.47 | vhaarr | but that's obviously up to him |
| 02:41.47 | Wobin | not social ones |
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| 02:42.17 | Wobin | eg, "Only summoned food/water" or "poisons and weapon buffs" |
| 02:42.37 | Wobin | "Stuff used by blacksmiths" |
| 02:42.57 | Wobin | That's where PT excels in |
| 02:45.01 | vhaarr | Kemayo: why is the commHandlers table in Quixote exposed? |
| 02:45.05 | vhaarr | seems like it should be local |
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| 02:45.18 | vhaarr | I'm asking because my local Quixote is modified to that effect already |
| 02:45.20 | vhaarr | for some reason |
| 02:45.41 | vhaarr | just noticed it was marked with a G last svnup, so diffed it |
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| 02:49.14 | Orionshock | i guess we shouldn't release ace3 based addons to trunk till it shows up there too ? |
| 02:49.17 | Kemayo | vhaarr: I can't remember any reason for it to be exposed. It's possible it's a legacy of a changed implementation somewhere. |
| 02:50.53 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Go ahead and check in your modified version, if you don't mind. |
| 02:50.53 | |Stan| | Orionshock: which one is in trunk? |
| 02:51.07 | CIA-4 | 03saroz * r55223 10PallyPower/PallyPower.toc: |
| 02:51.07 | CIA-4 | PallyPower: |
| 02:51.07 | CIA-4 | - Update TOC |
| 02:51.11 | Orionshock | was referencing my own activitys |
| 02:51.20 | CIA-4 | 03saroz * r55224 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Update TOC |
| 02:51.26 | Orionshock | i have not done so but i was wondering |
| 02:52.03 | CIA-4 | 03saroz * r55225 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.toc: |
| 02:52.03 | CIA-4 | FuBar_AlchemyFu: |
| 02:52.03 | CIA-4 | - Update TOC |
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| 02:56.49 | Orionshock | aight... i present for your ranting, raving , bitching and Noob calling : http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies5/core.lua |
| 02:57.01 | Orionshock | *for those that care |
| 03:01.05 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley * r55226 10Baggins/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Baggins: Update to PT3.1 |
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| 03:05.27 | CIA-4 | 03durcyn * r55227 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua Mendeleev.toc embeds.xml libs/): Mendeleev: Convert to PT3.1 |
| 03:05.47 | aestil | PT3.1 |
| 03:05.58 | aestil | wtf is it? |
| 03:06.06 | nymbia | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.07 | durcyn | libstub'd pt3. |
| 03:06.26 | |Stan| | PT3.1 is the winner of the week |
| 03:06.35 | aestil | is it smaller, or more compressed? is its only 'advnatge' that it doesn't need ace2 libs?> |
| 03:06.47 | Arrowmaster | doesnt need ace2 |
| 03:07.12 | durcyn | just framework independent, afaik |
| 03:07.20 | Arrowmaster | other advantage is that its being used now so if you want up2date data your addon should use pt3.1 instead of pt3.0 |
| 03:07.23 | aestil | i have a billion ace2 mods still, so there's no real change for a person like myslef. |
| 03:07.38 | aestil | i has no addons to update. |
| 03:07.42 | CIA-4 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55228 10TankPoints/TankPoints.toc: |
| 03:07.42 | CIA-4 | TankPoints: |
| 03:07.42 | CIA-4 | - Bump that TOC! |
| 03:07.43 | aestil | i am a retard. |
| 03:07.44 | durcyn | aestil: there is if you've nothing using PT3.0 anymore ;) |
| 03:07.58 | nymbia | less superfluous API, not compressed because i believe that at this point, CPU cycles are in greater demand than a slightly smaller memory footprint |
| 03:08.14 | |Stan| | Nargiddley: no LibGratuity-3.0 for baggins? :p |
| 03:09.01 | aestil | 30 rock was full of win this week. |
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| 03:10.33 | Arrowmaster | sweet i got scite to think everything in my wow dir as utf8 even if it doesnt start with a utf8 bom |
| 03:11.08 | |Stan| | Nargiddley: also AceLibrary("LibPeriodicTable-3.1") in Baggins-Filtering.lua shouldn't that be LibStub()? |
| 03:11.39 | CIA-4 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55229 10TankPoints/TankPointsTooltips.lua: |
| 03:11.39 | CIA-4 | TankPoints: |
| 03:11.39 | CIA-4 | - Fixed bug where TankPoints wasn't working for non-warrior/druid tanks |
| 03:12.04 | Nargiddley | no |
| 03:12.35 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt? |
| 03:12.58 | Nargiddley | it could be, but doesnt have to be |
| 03:13.09 | |Stan| | it better be :p |
| 03:16.13 | |Stan| | hm same for carto..., LibStub() there, too |
| 03:16.41 | Orionshock | ? |
| 03:16.44 | Arrowmaster | carto uses rock though |
| 03:17.36 | |Stan| | Arrowmaster: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua?r1=53089&r2=55221 |
| 03:17.44 | ckknight | there's benefits to calling it with Rock or AceLibrary |
| 03:17.51 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: question for you. LibStub it'self should not be included with the addon proper, but the libs it uses should |
| 03:17.52 | ckknight | namely, automatic loading |
| 03:18.55 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: according to www.wowwiki.com/Libstub it should be included with the addon proper |
| 03:19.00 | |Stan| | ckknight: shouldn't it be rock then in the case of carto_instanceloot? but I guess someone would branch it then -.- |
| 03:19.18 | |Stan| | so using LibStub prevents e-drama |
| 03:19.28 | Orionshock | nice link Arrowmaster - dead page |
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| 03:20.03 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: www.wowwiki.com/LibStub |
| 03:20.07 | Orionshock | :F |
| 03:20.09 | Orionshock | :D |
| 03:21.01 | Provus | Does anyone here use ClearFont2 and TrinityBars? For some reason the fonts aren't rendering correctly on trinitybars sometimes until you screw with the scaling of either the bars or the font. |
| 03:21.22 | Provus | It seems to be related to ClearFont since it doesn't do that with the default game font. |
| 03:23.41 | Orionshock | so did we find out why instancemaps are fubared? |
| 03:23.53 | ckknight | I'm working on it now, Orionshock |
| 03:24.03 | Orionshock | cool |
| 03:24.13 | ckknight | and it's sad, because as soon as it's fixed, everyone will go back to not appreciating it |
| 03:24.15 | ckknight | *SigH* |
| 03:24.18 | ckknight | *sigh** |
| 03:24.26 | Orionshock | lol oh so true |
| 03:31.07 | Xinhuan | i don't think people use it for the map, more so for the loot lists ;p |
| 03:36.48 | Orionshock | ... why the'd do that,i don't know - AtlasLoot is way better |
| 03:37.06 | theoddone33 | doing za |
| 03:37.11 | theoddone33 | lynx boss is owning us |
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| 03:41.27 | CIA-4 | 03daviesh * r55231 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 03:41.27 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 03:41.27 | CIA-4 | -ZA Corrections from incgamers user |
| 03:41.32 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r55230 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:41.32 | CIA-4 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 03:41.32 | CIA-4 | -- 23123 Blessed Wizard Oil |
| 03:41.32 | CIA-4 | -- Crystal Charge 11566, Gorishi Queen Lure 11833, Kibler's Bits 33874, Broiled Bloodfin 33867 |
| 03:41.32 | CIA-4 | -- 33837,33851,33852 Cooking Pots |
| 03:47.32 | Gngsk | nymbia, ping |
| 03:50.23 | nymbia | Gngsk: pong |
| 03:50.27 | Xinhuan | ckknight, durabilityfu taints the default UI |
| 03:50.40 | ckknight | somebody'd better fix that, hrm, Xinhuan |
| 03:50.42 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: got a taintlog? |
| 03:50.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:50.47 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 03:50.51 | Xinhuan | the issue is traced to |
| 03:50.57 | Xinhuan | self:Hook("DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts", true) |
| 03:51.01 | Xinhuan | which taints that function |
| 03:51.03 | Gngsk | nymbia, was wondering if you'd seen manufac snoop errors since patch |
| 03:51.05 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 03:51.17 | Xinhuan | in the onEvent of the durabilityframe |
| 03:51.19 | Xinhuan | the function calls |
| 03:51.19 | Xinhuan | DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts(); |
| 03:51.20 | Xinhuan | UIParent_ManageFramePositions(); |
| 03:51.21 | Xinhuan | in that order |
| 03:51.27 | Xinhuan | so that taints UIParent_blah |
| 03:51.31 | Xinhuan | in the execution path |
| 03:51.38 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 03:51.48 | Arrowmaster | whats the set alerts do? |
| 03:51.50 | Xinhuan | so in durabilityFu, DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts() cannot be hooked, it can only be securehokked |
| 03:51.53 | Arrowmaster | show the armored man? |
| 03:52.01 | Gngsk | nymbia, http://gngsk.pastey.net/77537 I get that when I try to go through a profession I don't have |
| 03:52.11 | Xinhuan | it is a function that is called whenever durability on any equipped item is changed (it fires an event for it) |
| 03:52.25 | Xinhuan | the blizzard function checks whether the armored man should be hidden or shown |
| 03:52.32 | Xinhuan | in that function |
| 03:52.42 | nymbia | Gngsk: hrm, ok, i'll take a look |
| 03:52.48 | Xinhuan | ckknight's hook overrides the show/hide to always hide if enabled |
| 03:52.53 | Xinhuan | hence the taint |
| 03:53.05 | Gngsk | nymbia, thx a lot |
| 03:53.14 | ckknight | perhaps if it is secure-hooked, then hidden right afterwards? |
| 03:53.23 | Arrowmaster | thats what i was going to make it do |
| 03:53.25 | Xinhuan | that would probably work |
| 03:53.44 | Arrowmaster | but duribiltyfu needs a few other changes too |
| 03:54.02 | Xinhuan | basically, DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts() cannot afford to be tainted, it has to be securehooked |
| 03:54.09 | CIA-4 | 03grennon * r55232 10Minimalist/Minimalist.lua: Minimalist: -have auto dismount at taxis also remove shapeshift |
| 03:54.52 | Xinhuan | the event that triggers that function is this:RegisterEvent("UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS"); |
| 03:54.55 | Xinhuan | in default UI |
| 03:55.02 | Xinhuan | and also P_E_W |
| 03:55.07 | aestil | nymbia, discription of PT3.1 says 'compressed' i thought you said its not anymore? |
| 03:55.16 | CIA-4 | 03kemayo * r55233 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Make commHandlers local instead of exposed on the lib object. |
| 03:55.47 | aestil | how do i show my own taint log? |
| 03:56.00 | Xinhuan | you type /console taintLog 2 |
| 03:56.03 | Xinhuan | then do a reloadui |
| 03:56.22 | Xinhuan | note this will make wow generate a taint.log that is like 20 mb per half an hour |
| 03:56.31 | Xinhuan | so turn it off as soon as you get a action blocked |
| 03:56.36 | Xinhuan | then you can trace the issue backwards |
| 03:57.02 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: are you 100% sure the :Show() gets called inside of blizzards DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts()? so if i secure hook it the :Hide() wont get called before the :Show()? |
| 03:57.57 | Xinhuan | if ( numAlerts > 0 ) then DurabilityFrame:Show(); else DurabilityFrame:Hide(); end |
| 03:58.07 | Xinhuan | that line is at the end of the DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts() function |
| 03:58.09 | nymbia | aestil: it's lying |
| 03:58.15 | Arrowmaster | cool |
| 03:58.16 | aestil | nymbia: i thought so. |
| 03:58.17 | nymbia | aestil: (or i just didnt update it, either way) |
| 03:58.23 | Xinhuan | basically, it either calls :Show() or :Hide() but will always call one of them |
| 03:58.43 | Xinhuan | based on numAlerts, which is counted by tallying up the number of broken/yellow pieces equipped |
| 03:59.02 | aestil | Xinhuan: i'm asking, because i have an eepanel which will randomly decide to 'not work |
| 03:59.19 | Xinhuan | ya, well, you can open up DurabilityFrame.lua and look |
| 03:59.23 | Xinhuan | there's only one function in it |
| 03:59.26 | Xinhuan | and it is DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts() |
| 03:59.47 | Xinhuan | and the DurabilityFrame.xml |
| 04:00.03 | Xinhuan | the bottom of the file shows the OnEvent and OnLoad that uses it |
| 04:00.25 | Arrowmaster | so setting DurabilityFrame.Hide = function() end would be a bad idea |
| 04:00.26 | aestil | Xinhuan: is it likely that my eepanels decide not to work because of a taint issue? |
| 04:00.37 | Xinhuan | no idea aestil |
| 04:00.51 | Xinhuan | this taint is causing the petbar not to appear |
| 04:01.08 | Xinhuan | since it taints the entire set of variables inside UIParent_manageframepos |
| 04:01.17 | aestil | hmm. |
| 04:01.30 | Xinhuan | i have no clue whether it affects eepanels |
| 04:01.41 | Arrowmaster | eepanels wont be effected by taint |
| 04:02.30 | aestil | Arrowmaster: is there any information you can give me why the eepanels which resize around my grid. |
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| 04:02.43 | aestil | Arrowmaster: if i pastey my function, do you think you could help? |
| 04:03.14 | Xinhuan | also, can someone look at buggrabber.lua, lines 149 and lines 139. Line 139 should have a "_" variable declared, otherwise it taints the global "_" on line 149, generating a few hundred entries in taint.log unnecessarily between the actual execution taint and the time it is recorded |
| 04:03.25 | CIA-4 | 03nymbia * r55234 10/trunk/ (13 files in 13 dirs): |
| 04:03.25 | CIA-4 | .Nymbia's addons: |
| 04:03.25 | CIA-4 | - Update some tocs to 20300 |
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| 04:04.08 | aestil | http://ace.pastey.net/77539 |
| 04:04.39 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r55235 10AutoBar/ (14 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:04.39 | CIA-4 | AutoBar : |
| 04:04.39 | CIA-4 | -- 2.03.00.29 beta () |
| 04:04.39 | CIA-4 | -- Eye of Kilrogg added to Class Pet |
| 04:04.39 | CIA-4 | -- 6635 Earth Sapta, 27317 Elemental Sapta, 6636 Fire Sapta, 6637 Water Sapta |
| 04:04.40 | CIA-4 | -- 23819 Heavy Seaforium |
| 04:04.42 | CIA-4 | -- 33825 Skullfish Soup |
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| 04:08.05 | aestil | anyone see anything wrong with that pastey, which would casue the eepanels to 'contract' to the exact size of the GridLayoutFrame? |
| 04:09.02 | Orionshock | um... |
| 04:09.12 | Orionshock | that's exactly what it's doing |
| 04:09.58 | Orionshock | you've got a slight buffer but not much |
| 04:11.50 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, should i commit that small buggrabber fix? |
| 04:11.57 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 04:12.19 | Xinhuan | its tainting "_" global about 100 times between an actionblocked and a execution taint in taint.log |
| 04:12.32 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:12.34 | Xinhuan | so its annoying to scroll up between the 2 events |
| 04:12.42 | Arrowmaster | fix = local _ right? |
| 04:12.45 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 04:13.07 | Xinhuan | add it to line 139 specifically |
| 04:13.16 | Arrowmaster | im not a buggrabber dev but do it anyway i say |
| 04:13.53 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 04:14.27 | Xuerian | The particular dev happens to be pissy at the moment |
| 04:14.32 | Xuerian | Commit at your own hazard. |
| 04:14.59 | Xinhuan | there isn't really any particular buggrabber dev ;p |
| 04:15.29 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Fine. vhaarr is pissy at the moment, and committed the last change to buggrabber. |
| 04:16.59 | Xinhuan | the last commit was just a TOC bump |
| 04:17.17 | Xinhuan | the last real change was on sept 12 by ckk |
| 04:17.28 | aestil | Orionshock: it makes a border of 3 eepanels. |
| 04:17.40 | Xuerian | Neeeevermind... |
| 04:17.57 | aestil | Orionshock: sometimes that border just disapears, and all 3 panels shrink to the size of the GridLayoutFrame. |
| 04:18.00 | Arrowmaster | ill commit it if you want |
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| 04:19.35 | Xinhuan | nah i'm doing it now heh |
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| 04:22.31 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r55237 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Add _ variable to local variable declaration so it doesn't generate 100 unnecessary taint.log entries on logging an error. |
| 04:25.32 | Sarana | Hmm did CIA-4 miss my commit? r55236... didn't see it say anything. |
| 04:25.58 | Xinhuan | Sarana: it apparently drops messages when too many are queued to be spammed to channels |
| 04:27.05 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r55238 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:27.05 | CIA-4 | Babble-2.2: |
| 04:27.05 | CIA-4 | Babble-Fish-2.2: added Crescent-Tail Skullfish and Bloodfin Catfish |
| 04:27.05 | CIA-4 | Babble-Gas-2.2: frFR update |
| 04:27.05 | CIA-4 | Babble-Tradeskill-2.2: deDE update cooking and blacksmithing recipes |
| 04:28.42 | Silowyi | yay now I've MTed every boss in TBC before Kael/Vashj |
| 04:28.46 | Silowyi | successfully |
| 04:30.58 | Smj | Grats. |
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| 04:32.04 | Donra | is there any easy way (ie not scanning tooltips) to work out if an item in bags/inventory is soulbound? |
| 04:32.39 | Orionshock | i don't think so |
| 04:33.01 | Donra | :( |
| 04:33.54 | Donra | bruteforce it is, then... |
| 04:34.06 | Donra | thanks :) |
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| 04:37.46 | fridgid | does lootmethod, masterlooterPartyID, masterlooterRaidID = GetLootMethod() <---is masterlooterRaidID nil when in a party? |
| 04:38.00 | fridgid | ignore the does* |
| 04:42.10 | Gngsk | returns "group", nil, nil if you're just in a 5 man |
| 04:42.53 | Xinhuan | a 5-man can have a master looter too though |
| 04:43.00 | Gngsk | yeah, that's right |
| 04:43.03 | Gngsk | nil unless it's set |
| 04:43.10 | Gngsk | well, the 2nd arg |
| 04:43.20 | fridgid | but the last arg is always nil in a party right? |
| 04:43.28 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 04:43.29 | Gngsk | just tested it |
| 04:43.34 | Gngsk | "group", x, nil |
| 04:43.43 | Gngsk | where x is the ID of the party master looter, 1-5 |
| 04:43.45 | fridgid | ok, yeah i just got onto a level 1 to spam invites on other level ones til i figured it out |
| 04:43.49 | fridgid | yar |
| 04:43.50 | fridgid | ty |
| 04:45.12 | Orionshock | err, question, in AceGUI, what's the type for a drop down box selection? |
| 04:46.16 | bigzero | If I have the name of the table in a string and I want to delete the table so that it is gc'ed, how could I do that? setting it's value to nil in _G wouldn't do it, would it? |
| 04:47.09 | Xinhuan | it will only GC the table if no other variable holds a reference to it |
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| 04:48.36 | Xinhuan | so if you have local abc = _G["sometable"], even if you nil out "sometable", because abc still references that table, it won't get GCed |
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| 04:50.39 | bigzero | right, but I was reading the lua manual and it said "Lua itself does not use this variable; changing its value does not affect any environment, nor vice-versa". Does that mean that it has it's own reference to _G table, or that it doesn't use the values inside it either? |
| 04:51.19 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 04:51.29 | RaydenUnic | i'm just starting my first druid |
| 04:51.34 | Xinhuan | would need the context of that quoted sentence |
| 04:51.34 | RaydenUnic | any must have druid mods? |
| 04:51.45 | bigzero | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-_G |
| 04:51.49 | Xuerian | A unitframe that handles druid mana. |
| 04:51.51 | Xuerian | Itemrack. |
| 04:52.04 | RaydenUnic | i have a lvl 70 shadowpriest |
| 04:52.07 | RaydenUnic | so i have the generic stuff |
| 04:52.15 | Xuerian | That's just about all that's required |
| 04:52.17 | Xinhuan | well that's exactly that |
| 04:52.21 | RaydenUnic | oh mana when in cat form |
| 04:52.23 | Sarana | Yeah mana in shifted forms, itemrack or the like and probably some good shift macros. |
| 04:52.24 | RaydenUnic | will pitbull do that? |
| 04:52.32 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 04:52.33 | RaydenUnic | i have closetgnome |
| 04:52.43 | Xinhuan | _G is just a variable that refers to the "global environment", which is the table used when a variable can't be found locally |
| 04:53.05 | Xuerian | You'll want a bag mod if you don't have one, baggins etc.. Your inventory will grow to frightening sized |
| 04:53.08 | Xuerian | sizes, even |
| 04:53.13 | RaydenUnic | Xuerian i have a 70 |
| 04:53.13 | Xinhuan | even if you change the value of _G._G, lua still refers to the "global environment" correctly |
| 04:53.18 | RaydenUnic | so i already have ark |
| 04:53.32 | RaydenUnic | but i guess druids keep more sets of armor |
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| 04:53.38 | RaydenUnic | only lvl 7 so far |
| 04:53.41 | bigzero | right, so what they mean by lua not using this variable is that it has an internal reference to the table, so changing _G itself to point to something else will not matter. Correct? |
| 04:53.42 | Sarana | My moonkin has so much bag space compared to my feral druid. |
| 04:53.44 | Xuerian | Almost half my inventory is gear... |
| 04:54.02 | Sarana | Aye... my feral druid is like that 90% of my bag space is gear it seems. |
| 04:54.05 | RaydenUnic | for what? |
| 04:54.11 | Xinhuan | why would you do that though |
| 04:54.14 | RaydenUnic | melee dps, tanking, dps casting, healing? |
| 04:54.15 | Arrowmaster | to be safe you can use local _G = getfenv(0) in your code |
| 04:54.39 | Xuerian | Healing set, Str-DPS set, Agi-DPS set (Mostly shared with -)Agi tanking, mitigation set. >_o |
| 04:54.45 | Xuerian | Not counting any resistance sets that you might require |
| 04:54.48 | Xinhuan | local _G = getfenv(0) will always get you the current global environment, even if _G was changed to point to something else |
| 04:54.55 | RaydenUnic | you guys think PetaHoof is sufficiently geeky? |
| 04:55.06 | Xuerian | Whoosawhatsit? |
| 04:55.37 | bigzero | i'm not worried about _G being repointed. I was just wondering what they meant by lua itself not using _G |
| 04:55.42 | RaydenUnic | for a name |
| 04:55.43 | Sarana | Used to use 2 or 3 tank sets myself... my normal MT one.. and some with lower migration so that I could get hit and build up rage. |
| 04:55.50 | RaydenUnic | heh |
| 04:55.52 | bigzero | I think i get it now |
| 04:55.52 | Xuerian | Tauren, I take it |
| 04:55.57 | RaydenUnic | yes |
| 04:56.03 | RaydenUnic | i will only ever play horde |
| 04:56.06 | Xuerian | (Shoulda been one myself..) |
| 04:56.20 | Xuerian | Well, as tauren you're licensed to make whatever name strikes your fancy or funnybone |
| 04:56.34 | RaydenUnic | i wanted GigaHoof but it was taken |
| 04:56.43 | Xuerian | Moolester was my alt. |
| 04:58.43 | Xuerian | RaydenUnic: Anyway, what spec are you going? |
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| 04:59.31 | RaydenUnic | why is main assist target's target on my default for pitbull? |
| 04:59.32 | RaydenUnic | no idea |
| 04:59.34 | RaydenUnic | i'm lvl 7 :P |
| 04:59.42 | RaydenUnic | i haven't looked into leveling it yet |
| 04:59.57 | RaydenUnic | a friend just started a tauren hunter so i needed a tauren to level with im and i've wanted to make a druid for a while |
| 05:00.06 | RaydenUnic | probably not caster as my main is a spriest |
| 05:00.07 | Xuerian | Unless you have lots of friends your level, feral is easiest, balance is ok, and so help you if you go restro |
| 05:00.18 | Sarana | Feral slightly > Balance > Restoration for leveling |
| 05:01.02 | Sarana | Leveled a druid to 60 (1.2~1.7 timeframe) as restoration... took forever and a day. |
| 05:01.49 | aestil | i'm drinking quite a bit right how. |
| 05:02.10 | RaydenUnic | i'll probably go feral |
| 05:02.13 | RaydenUnic | but i'll play with it |
| 05:02.58 | Orionshock | need help |
| 05:03.00 | Orionshock | http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_111707_220039.jpg |
| 05:03.10 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.17 | RaydenUnic | i need some really awesome druid jokes |
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| 05:03.17 | Orionshock | can't get the Ace3Gui to do it :( |
| 05:03.19 | RaydenUnic | to tell my guild |
| 05:03.38 | CIA-4 | 03kemayo * r55239 10BankStack/ (core.lua sort.lua): |
| 05:03.38 | CIA-4 | BankStack: |
| 05:03.38 | CIA-4 | -Use a metatable cache in the sort function when scanning tooltips to test for ITEM_CONJURED. (Massive speedup.) |
| 05:04.12 | Xuerian | http://druid.wikispaces.com/Alamo+teechs+u+2+play+DURID%21 |
| 05:04.37 | Kemayo | There we go. A year and a half of writing addons, and I just used my first metatable. >_> |
| 05:05.12 | RaydenUnic | yeah i've seen that Xuerian |
| 05:05.13 | RaydenUnic | good stuff |
| 05:05.24 | RaydenUnic | dunno if i want to be 4 fite just yet |
| 05:05.27 | Xuerian | :p |
| 05:06.30 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r55240 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 05:06.30 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 05:06.30 | CIA-4 | - Fixed Drums of Speed |
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| 05:09.17 | Xuerian | RaydenUnic: This about sums up the druid jokes: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2331381008387248940 |
| 05:09.58 | dylanm | Hahaha |
| 05:11.10 | RaydenUnic | lol |
| 05:11.19 | RaydenUnic | is innervate to help the guild? |
| 05:11.32 | RaydenUnic | on a priest or something? |
| 05:11.35 | Xuerian | Yeah |
| 05:11.43 | Xuerian | It's not like that anymore, but lol |
| 05:11.53 | RaydenUnic | it's not like that anymore? |
| 05:11.56 | RaydenUnic | what's not like what? |
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| 05:12.39 | Xuerian | Feral druids weren't very useful in most raids early on. They could be, but they've been buffed many times since then and are now more effective |
| 05:12.55 | [AR]Camci | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciuYTeu4Qc |
| 05:12.57 | [AR]Camci | rofl |
| 05:12.58 | Xuerian | Early on being 1.0->1.7 or so |
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| 05:13.41 | CIA-4 | BigWigs: |
| 05:13.41 | CIA-4 | - Fixed zhTW translation. |
| 05:14.33 | Xuerian | bahahaha |
| 05:15.00 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r55242 10Postal/Internals/PostalLib-1.0.lua: Postal: - Bugfix for retrieving mail with shift-click, occurs when you have an inventory bag change from some other source while retrieving multiple attachments. |
| 05:15.03 | RaydenUnic | that guy has gotten much better at making music videos |
| 05:15.09 | xyu | in atlasLoot what loot table are badges found under? |
| 05:15.18 | Xuerian | Collections -> badges |
| 05:16.20 | RaydenUnic | collections? |
| 05:16.24 | RaydenUnic | i got my first badges today |
| 05:16.26 | RaydenUnic | 4 of them |
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| 05:17.57 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r55243 10GridStatusThreat/GridStatusThreat.toc: GridStatusThreat: toc Interface 20300 |
| 05:18.46 | CIA-4 | 03scorpio0920 * r55244 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: |
| 05:18.46 | CIA-4 | BigWigs: |
| 05:18.46 | CIA-4 | - Fixed zhTW translation again. XD |
| 05:19.32 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r55245 10GridStatusTargetName/GridStatusTargetName.toc: GridStatusTargetName: toc Interface 20300 |
| 05:19.34 | RaydenUnic | as a lvl 8 druid i cannot take an 8 and a9 mob |
| 05:21.08 | Xuerian | Yeah, druids are real pain till 10. Jut a pain till 20 |
| 05:21.20 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r55246 10GridStatusRaidIcons/GridStatusRaidIcons.toc: GridStatusRaidIcons: toc Interface 20300 |
| 05:22.20 | Xuerian | You're kinda feral till around 30 like it or not |
| 05:23.02 | Sarana | Even if my balance druids spent a lot of time as a cat at those levels. |
| 05:23.59 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r55247 10GridStatusMTs/GridStatusMTs.toc: GridStatusMTs: toc Interface 20300 |
| 05:24.05 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.56 | CIA-4 | 03arrowmaster * r55248 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: use new durability api and fix tainting UIParent_ManageFramePositions |
| 05:25.03 | Xuerian | Sweeeeet... Two khorium veins in a row in hellfire |
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| 05:25.30 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r55249 10GridIndicatorText3/GridIndicatorText3.toc: GridIndicatorText3: toc Interface 20300 |
| 05:26.30 | CIA-4 | 03nymbia * r55250 10PT3Bar/Config.lua: |
| 05:26.30 | CIA-4 | PT3Bar: |
| 05:26.31 | CIA-4 | - Fix the defaults for a couple changes that were made to set names in PT |
| 05:26.59 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r55251 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/GridIndicatorSideIcons.toc: GridIndicatorSideIcons: toc Interface 20300 |
| 05:28.59 | Xuerian | Druids are fun though. Only class I enjoy as well are locks |
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| 05:36.18 | Diao | hm |
| 05:36.43 | Diao | need a mod like violation_combatlogrange that enables /combatlog whenever i'm in a pve instance without changing the combat log |
| 05:37.04 | Killmore | try LoggerHead |
| 05:37.46 | Diao | ah |
| 05:37.46 | Diao | ty |
| 05:37.55 | Diao | just what i was looking for |
| 05:37.56 | Orionshock | *wtb someone to make GroupCalender not so shitty - 100$ |
| 05:38.05 | xon | question: is there a way to make the Version: tag in my .toc match the revision number that will get assigned when I commit the addon? |
| 05:38.38 | nymbia | xon: keywords |
| 05:38.48 | nymbia | $Rev$ |
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| 05:39.05 | nymbia | then set Rev as a keyword in the svn props for that file |
| 05:40.00 | xon | I'll give it a shot :) thanks nymbia |
| 05:40.04 | Orionshock | nymbia: sure? i commited an addon that used that and never set a keyword but it still put the reversion in |
| 05:40.59 | xon | oi it's been so long since I've updated this thing... put it off as long as I can to not deal with SVN... hehe |
| 05:41.43 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: want to test my durabilityfu commit and make sure its not tainting (especially on disable since im calling the original function there) and also to make sure it actually works |
| 05:41.46 | nymbia | Orionshock: hrm, maybe ya don't need it then |
| 05:42.40 | Arrowmaster | xon: $Rev$ in your toc will only get updated when you update the toc file, not other files in the addon |
| 05:42.58 | xon | oh, ok |
| 05:43.39 | nymbia | best to stick a version variable in your main .lua |
| 05:43.41 | Orionshock | but still useful |
| 05:44.02 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: sure you dont have autoprops set to add the keyword prop? |
| 05:44.26 | Orionshock | humm... good point |
| 05:44.34 | Orionshock | i'v got no clue |
| 05:45.05 | Orionshock | ive got a default tortis svn with some of the auto props set from the wiki article bou it |
| 05:45.40 | CIA-4 | 03nymbia * r55252 10Manufac/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:45.40 | CIA-4 | Manufac: |
| 05:45.40 | CIA-4 | - Convert to PT3.1 |
| 05:47.51 | CIA-4 | 03nymbia * r55253 10ManufacSnoop/ (ManufacSnoop.lua ManufacSnoop.toc): |
| 05:47.51 | CIA-4 | ManufacSnoop: |
| 05:47.51 | CIA-4 | - Convert to PT3.1 |
| 05:48.28 | CIA-4 | 03xonpathos * r55254 10SellJunk/ (SellJunk.lua SellJunk.toc): |
| 05:48.28 | CIA-4 | SellJunk: |
| 05:48.28 | CIA-4 | - Changed the actual sell function to work with 2.3. |
| 05:50.26 | Symian | Hey. I'm a terrible information junkie. is there an addon that keeps track of everyone you meet? Some sort of social thing? Keeps track of where you last saw them, lets you place notes, their levels. Updates on mouseover, etc. etc. Keeps track of times partied. Last partied. |
| 05:50.30 | Symian | So on and so forth. |
| 05:50.41 | Symian | If not - do you think it'd be a good idea if I worked on something like that? |
| 05:51.35 | nymbia | could be fun |
| 05:52.12 | Orionshock | i'd use the partied aspect |
| 05:52.26 | Symian | Cool. I think I'll do that then. |
| 05:52.40 | Symian | And look at my AMAZING credentials: FuBar-BabelFu |
| 05:52.43 | Orionshock | Symian: the data mining ain't the hard part - trust me |
| 05:52.48 | Symian | try and top that! :-) |
| 05:52.49 | Diao | auldlangsyne does it but you have to friendslist them |
| 05:52.51 | Orionshock | it's the dispaly and config that's the bitch |
| 05:52.51 | Symian | Oh, I know. |
| 05:52.55 | Diao | so you can probably modify it to work on mouseover |
| 05:52.59 | Symian | Yeah. |
| 05:53.00 | nymbia | Symian: got me beat. |
| 05:53.52 | xon | I'd love to have an addon that just allows me to add notes to my friends list... |
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| 05:53.52 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 05:54.20 | Diao | auld lang syne does that xon |
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| 05:55.08 | xon | looks like it could also replace the (slightly buggy) FriendShare addon I'm using now too? |
| 05:56.41 | Orionshock | ok something is very wrong here, going into combat for ~30 seconds puts me at +1mb more of mem useage |
| 05:56.43 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 05:57.08 | Diao | is that a lot |
| 05:57.23 | Orionshock | not even in group |
| 06:00.18 | xon | anybody know how long it takes changes to make their way out to the WAU? |
| 06:00.24 | Symian | Diao, I am a huge fan of Auld Lang Syne. |
| 06:00.29 | Diao | every 20 min xon |
| 06:00.33 | Diao | on the hour, 20, 40 |
| 06:00.35 | Symian | Diao, I'm hoping this would sort of... fit in with it somehow. I dunno. |
| 06:00.37 | Orionshock | ya |
| 06:00.39 | xon | ah, thanks :) |
| 06:00.43 | Diao | make it a module for it Symian? |
| 06:00.53 | Diao | since it's modular anyway |
| 06:01.08 | Symian | I might make a module for it to interface with this idea. |
| 06:01.15 | Symian | That would be cool. |
| 06:01.22 | Orionshock | ok... something is annoyingly GCing in combat for me... |
| 06:01.24 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 06:01.27 | Symian | I shall call it... Socialist. |
| 06:01.49 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:02.12 | nymbia | lol |
| 06:02.43 | Orionshock | and it's really starting to piss me off |
| 06:03.09 | Diao | anyone remember what addon allows you to review combat log like swlog but also includes how much hp a person was at |
| 06:03.11 | xon | ok, I'm off for the night. thanks for the help all :) |
| 06:03.14 | nymbia | ugh.. pt3browser is so full of ugly hack... >.< |
| 06:03.37 | aestil | nymbia: i didn't do it |
| 06:03.46 | nymbia | i did :( |
| 06:04.31 | aestil | nymbia: i forgive you. you gave me quartz |
| 06:04.36 | nymbia | ;) |
| 06:08.50 | aestil | i am starting to think my mana bar is too tall. |
| 06:09.01 | aestil | is anyone using agUF ace3? |
| 06:09.53 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r55255 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:09.53 | CIA-4 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 06:09.53 | CIA-4 | -- Mechanical Yeti 15778 |
| 06:09.53 | CIA-4 | -- 16991 Triage Bandage |
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| 06:13.32 | Arrowmaster | blizzard needs to fix the GetItemInfo() returns on non auctionable items |
| 06:13.43 | CIA-4 | 03nymbia * r55256 10PT3Browser/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:13.43 | CIA-4 | PT3Browser: |
| 06:13.43 | CIA-4 | - Switch to PT3.1. Item search is currently not working. |
| 06:13.43 | CIA-4 | - This thing really, really needs rewritten. |
| 06:13.59 | Arrowmaster | all my bop minipets are "Misc" "Junk" |
| 06:22.41 | Orionshock | if you enable the taint log and then reload , do u have to reenable it? |
| 06:22.51 | Orionshock | or can we set something to always have it on? |
| 06:22.59 | nymbia | it should stick |
| 06:23.29 | Orionshock | my game is also jerking bout every 40 seconds |
| 06:25.01 | Gngsk | Orionshock, same |
| 06:25.14 | Orionshock | 11/17 23:24:39.496 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from DoubleWide - PossessBarFrame:SetPoint() |
| 06:26.01 | Gngsk | nymbia, is it possible to filter a buff/debuff from quartz buff module? |
| 06:26.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 06:26.55 | sag_ich_nicht | are you there |
| 06:27.15 | nymbia | Gngsk: nope |
| 06:27.42 | Gngsk | future feature? :P |
| 06:29.08 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 06:29.42 | Orionshock | .. this mod is starting to piss me off to a serious degree.... 100$ by paypal to re code it, addon is called GuildCalender |
| 06:31.06 | nymbia | Gngsk: possibly ;) |
| 06:31.44 | Diao | lol |
| 06:33.39 | Orionshock | O.O |
| 06:33.50 | Orionshock | disabled DubbleWide and my framerate went up by 30 |
| 06:34.13 | sag_ich_nicht | nymbia: can i delete PT3.0 or is 3.1 lacking a compatibility layer? :P |
| 06:35.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:33] <Orionshock> disabled DubbleWide and my framerate went up by 30 <--wait what |
| 06:35.40 | Orionshock | it did |
| 06:35.45 | Orionshock | don't know why |
| 06:35.47 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell |
| 06:35.48 | Kemayo | Huh. |
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| 06:35.55 | nymbia | sag_ich_nicht: there's no compatibility layer, no |
| 06:35.58 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.03 | Kemayo | I have to try that. |
| 06:36.19 | nymbia | sag_ich_nicht: wouldn't mind if you deleted it, but it may break an addon or two |
| 06:36.19 | sag_ich_nicht | nymbia: are you trying to drive me insane? :( my WoW.exe already uses >1GB RAM |
| 06:36.34 | nymbia | oh i thought you meant from the svn |
| 06:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 06:36.49 | nymbia | yeah sure delete it from your local copy, i don't know what still uses it |
| 06:39.22 | Kemayo | Orionshock: No effect on my framerate. I know it has taint issues -- it could be that taintlog causes a lot of cpu load. |
| 06:39.43 | nymbia | quick, whats the best cooldown tracking addon |
| 06:39.49 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 06:39.56 | sag_ich_nicht | OmniCC and nature enemy castbar |
| 06:39.57 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 06:40.09 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you mean longtime cooldowns |
| 06:40.17 | sag_ich_nicht | like saltshaker or something |
| 06:40.22 | Orionshock | ....well in reality.... u know when blue said that smashing buttons was bad for you?... well i figured out why... |
| 06:41.25 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 06:41.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i think you are wrong, because i think you don't know about 2.3.2! |
| 06:42.00 | Orionshock | i have a modified error monster, and it out puts the whole of the UIErrorFrame to sink and in turn to parrot... and when spamming buttons it droped my frame rate down to shit :\ |
| 06:42.20 | Sarana | Finally 375 fishing |
| 06:42.28 | sag_ich_nicht | grats |
| 06:42.38 | CIA-4 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55257 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 06:42.38 | CIA-4 | TankPoints: |
| 06:42.38 | CIA-4 | - Moved enumerations of elemental resists over to tables. Found and fixed a bug |
| 06:42.38 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.37 | todd` | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/12/wtree112.xml |
| 06:47.21 | sag_ich_nicht | woho |
| 06:47.22 | sag_ich_nicht | this is awesome |
| 06:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | RDX6 free'd |
| 06:48.17 | Wobin | orly? |
| 06:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ya rly |
| 06:49.04 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.rdx-raid.com/ |
| 06:49.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:41] <Orionshock> i have a modified error monster, and it out puts the whole of the UIErrorFrame to sink and in turn to parrot... and when spamming buttons it droped my frame rate down to shit :\ <--okay, then this isn't fixed with 2.3.2 because you are just dumb :P |
| 06:49.49 | Orionshock | what it's in the wrong spot |
| 06:50.32 | Wobin | omg freaky tree man |
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| 06:54.21 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 06:55.10 | CIA-4 | 03bima * r55258 10Rummage/ (README.txt Rummage.lua Rummage.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 06:55.10 | CIA-4 | Rummage |
| 06:55.10 | CIA-4 | - Updated for CharacterProfiler 2.3, which means: |
| 06:55.10 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.10 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.11 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.13 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.28 | Orionshock | ckknight: wana make 100$? |
| 06:55.30 | Orionshock | ;D |
| 06:55.56 | ckknight | sure |
| 06:56.10 | Orionshock | ya not quite that easy im sorry |
| 06:56.13 | ckknight | don't shoot in my hair |
| 06:56.19 | Orionshock | rewrite guildCalender to not suck |
| 06:56.41 | ckknight | I was planning on writing a GEM/GC thing one day |
| 06:56.51 | ckknight | today is not that day |
| 06:56.59 | Orionshock | GC, every time someone logs in or reloads it reInits the entire DB |
| 06:58.15 | Wobin | sigh, I hate guild calenders =P |
| 06:58.25 | Wobin | The whole synching requirement makes it a headache =P |
| 06:58.27 | ckknight | on principle? |
| 06:58.32 | ckknight | yea, that is a pain |
| 06:59.10 | Wobin | yeah, well it's mostly the synching that makes me want to stab them =) |
| 06:59.20 | Orionshock | lol |
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| 07:06.23 | CIA-4 | 03sekuyo * r55259 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/Cartographer_NoteTarget.toc: Cartographer_NoteTarget: TOC bump |
| 07:08.15 | CIA-4 | 03sekuyo * r55260 10Cartographer_Icons_CtMapModPack/Cartographer_Icons_CtMapModPack.toc: Cartographer_Icons_CtMapModPack: TOC bump |
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| 07:21.42 | CIA-4 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55261 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 07:21.42 | CIA-4 | TankPoints: |
| 07:21.42 | CIA-4 | - When sorting something, it is vitally important that you have something |
| 07:21.42 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.42 | CIA-4 | - Make sure we have some tank points. Geez. |
| 07:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | nymbia: looks like you should stab the author of MrPlow |
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| 07:23.43 | Kaelten | Na, don't stab Wobin |
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| 07:24.07 | sag_ich_nicht | if nymbia won't, i will. |
| 07:24.13 | Kaelten | why? |
| 07:24.31 | Dae`Rauko | yo what's the wowace page with like the lists of downloads for easy click and get |
| 07:24.50 | sag_ich_nicht | yo shut the fuck up and go to files.wowace.com |
| 07:25.00 | Dae`Rauko | ty :d |
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| 07:36.02 | todd` | flexbar2 + cycircled = errors for anyone else? |
| 07:37.29 | Diao | someone needs to update mendwatch to work with sharedmedia :) |
| 07:42.53 | Wobin | sag_ich_nicht: er why? |
| 07:43.10 | Wobin | Please elaborate on the stabbing before I break limbs |
| 07:43.24 | Wobin | I don't mind valid stabbing, but random stabbing is just stupid |
| 07:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin: MrPlow is the only addon i find in my addons that still uses PT3.0 and not 3.1 :P |
| 07:43.47 | Wobin | And? |
| 07:43.56 | Wobin | MrPlow in branches uses 3.1 |
| 07:43.59 | Wobin | go stab yourself =P |
| 07:44.12 | Wobin | I'm not updating the current one til I replace it |
| 07:44.12 | sag_ich_nicht | well better move it then! |
| 07:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 07:48.59 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r55262 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 07:48.59 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 07:48.59 | CIA-4 | - reverted a ZA change |
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| 08:12.43 | ckknight | well, I got the Cartographer_InstanceMaps pack.lua script to run in 2 seconds instead of 2 minutes |
| 08:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | that's great |
| 08:14.44 | ckknight | for all instances as well |
| 08:14.52 | Fritti | hey ckk -- nice! |
| 08:14.52 | ckknight | there was a bad algorithm in it |
| 08:15.05 | Orionshock | ok, inline color codes, how do i do it? |
| 08:15.08 | ckknight | basically, it was O(n^4) before, now it's O(n) |
| 08:15.16 | ckknight | roughly |
| 08:15.22 | Orionshock | the |c<HexKey>MyText|r |
| 08:15.33 | ckknight | |cffrrggbbZomg|r |
| 08:15.46 | ckknight | where rr,gg,bb means the hex digits for red, green, and blue |
| 08:15.50 | ckknight | [00, ff] |
| 08:16.29 | Orionshock | and this works just about anywhere? |
| 08:18.28 | CIA-4 | 03ckknight * r55263 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (Data.lua Scripts/pack.lua): |
| 08:18.28 | CIA-4 | Cartographer_InstanceMaps - |
| 08:18.28 | CIA-4 | upgrade pack.lua to include Black Temple |
| 08:18.28 | CIA-4 | lots of optimizations to pack.lua, should run 100x faster or so |
| 08:18.28 | CIA-4 | upgrade Data.lua for WoW 2.3 |
| 08:18.43 | ckknight | Orionshock, pretty much |
| 08:18.52 | ckknight | Orionshock, I wouldn't say absolutely everywhere, but pretty damn close |
| 08:19.12 | ckknight | btw, Naxx is messed up and I'm not really sure why |
| 08:19.20 | ckknight | no matter how I fudged it |
| 08:19.36 | ckknight | the wmo doesn't match up with md5translate.trs |
| 08:19.43 | ckknight | as far as the number of groups |
| 08:19.54 | ckknight | md5translate.trs says it has 71 groups, but the wmo says it has 65 |
| 08:20.08 | RaydenUnic | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1296410596&sid=1&pageNo=4#69 |
| 08:20.11 | RaydenUnic | greatest druid thread |
| 08:20.12 | ckknight | so even by forcing the wmo to read 6 more groups, it didn't register properly |
| 08:20.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:15] <@ckknight> basically, it was O(n^4) before, now it's O(n) <--LOL. |
| 08:21.39 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, well, not actually O(n^4), it was actually O(n*lg(n)*j*k*l), now it's O(n*lg(n)) |
| 08:21.51 | ckknight | either way, it's about 100x faster or so |
| 08:22.27 | ckknight | before it was running :match j*k*l times, now it runs one :gmatch |
| 08:22.54 | fridgid | http://www.mechanical-squirrel.com/forum/uploads/avatars/avatar_15.jpg |
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| 08:23.01 | fridgid | thats a awesome avatar. |
| 08:28.39 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: is the size of some of the maps like blackfathom still off from the instancenotes? |
| 08:28.53 | ckknight | quite possible |
| 08:29.20 | ckknight | and I hope you realize that it's not "off", it's that the visible texture on the tile only takes up part of the tile instead of all of it |
| 08:29.32 | ckknight | which gives the appearance of it being "off" |
| 08:30.10 | hyperChipmunk | "It's not on. Nothing's on. It's off." |
| 08:30.45 | Arrowmaster | so if the map doesnt line up with the notes and seems smaller does that mean the textures got smaller? |
| 08:33.04 | ckknight | oh, in that case the textures themselves changed somehow |
| 08:33.16 | ckknight | and the notes should be updated |
| 08:33.20 | ckknight | one way or another |
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| 08:33.36 | Orionshock | ahhhhhh |
| 08:33.52 | Orionshock | ok now i know why i hate optionTables so much :\ |
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| 08:35.26 | ckknight | Orionshock, because lua in its own right is a shitty language? |
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| 08:35.43 | ckknight | :-P |
| 08:35.44 | Orionshock | no ... much worse... |
| 08:36.04 | ckknight | I suppose it's more of a compounded-upon issue |
| 08:36.21 | Orionshock | have a look see |
| 08:36.23 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies5/core.lua |
| 08:38.38 | Nargiddley | you could replace alot of those functions with 2 local ones and use arg |
| 08:39.51 | Orionshock | i was hoping someone was going to say that |
| 08:41.08 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: because i prolly won't figure it out on my own, can you pasty an example? |
| 08:41.28 | Nargiddley | have to think a bit, since the quests need 2 values |
| 08:41.48 | Nargiddley | could use a table, or just have the keys be the names |
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| 08:42.19 | Orionshock | ya the whole quest npc thing i've though about for a long time... and can't find anything faster |
| 08:42.23 | CIA-4 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55264 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 08:42.23 | CIA-4 | TankPoints: |
| 08:42.23 | CIA-4 | - Commafied TankPoints tabs |
| 08:42.51 | Orionshock | or simpler, or easily extendable |
| 08:43.28 | Orionshock | i mean come on, to add a quest - you add a table stub to the defaults, a copy past-able section to the options table and the locales |
| 08:43.52 | Nargiddley | could probably generate the whole options table on the fly from the defined quests |
| 08:44.03 | Orionshock | thats what i thought |
| 08:44.31 | Orionshock | only 2 quests have special handling |
| 08:44.41 | Orionshock | & that's the bitch of it |
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| 08:44.54 | Arrowmaster | does ace3 not do an unregisterallevents on disable for you? |
| 08:44.55 | Nargiddley | whats the special handling ? |
| 08:45.19 | Orionshock | the Escort quest has a option for quest rewards |
| 08:45.30 | Orionshock | and the Deadliest trap ever laied is a chain quest |
| 08:45.41 | Orionshock | that i've cobbled into one check box |
| 08:45.45 | Arrowmaster | chain? |
| 08:45.48 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 08:46.10 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: ya starts at "Kill them All!" |
| 08:47.55 | Arrowmaster | but you only have to do the chain once |
| 08:48.07 | Orionshock | nope the chain is a daily quest |
| 08:48.13 | Orionshock | iirc? |
| 08:48.52 | Orionshock | according to WoWhead : Type: Daily Group |
| 08:48.53 | Nargiddley | hm i'm sure theres a better way than what i've come up with |
| 08:49.13 | Nargiddley | but putting the actual quest names in the keys seems wrong and thats all i can think of |
| 08:49.27 | Arrowmaster | from what i remember all i have to do it talk to commander hobb and he gives the medal at the start of the quest then you have to kill the dragonmaw as a quest objective then you go turn it in on netherwing ledge |
| 08:49.40 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: can't aggree more but it's the fastest |
| 08:49.55 | Orionshock | take a look at http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua |
| 08:49.56 | Arrowmaster | but i havent done that quest recently since i was exalted a week after 2.1 |
| 08:50.01 | Orionshock | the predecessor |
| 08:50.35 | Nargiddley | basicly what you'd use is that the info table passed to the functions |
| 08:50.44 | Nargiddley | has the keys of the option and all its parent groups |
| 08:50.49 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: right but it starts in netherwing, then goes to the aldor/scryer site, then the site-leader tells you to see the comannder then you do the event then back to netherwing |
| 08:50.56 | Nargiddley | and the arg member of the option itself |
| 08:51.15 | Arrowmaster | no im perty sure for the daily you start it at commander hobb |
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| 08:51.28 | Arrowmaster | unless ive been running around with half the quest done for months |
| 08:51.36 | Orionshock | lol |
| 08:51.43 | Orionshock | well commander hobbs starts no other quests |
| 08:51.48 | Arrowmaster | because everytime i run past commander hobb he has an ! |
| 08:52.18 | Orionshock | ... well go talk to him, he should have "The Deadliest Trap Ever Laid" - marked Daily |
| 08:52.33 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 08:52.41 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: can you give a pastie of what that info table looks like? |
| 08:52.41 | Arrowmaster | which means you dont have to check for the non daily quests |
| 08:52.48 | Arrowmaster | and can just ignore them |
| 08:52.57 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: ... but they are all link'ed |
| 08:53.03 | Orionshock | it's a quest chain |
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| 08:53.24 | Arrowmaster | yes but you only do the last one as a daily |
| 08:53.36 | Arrowmaster | you cant do the first ones more than once |
| 08:53.36 | Orionshock | no.. you do the WHOLE thing |
| 08:53.50 | Arrowmaster | fine let me login |
| 08:53.57 | Orionshock | .... |
| 08:54.02 | Arrowmaster | go check and prove it |
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| 08:54.09 | Arrowmaster | ill show you |
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| 08:55.10 | Orionshock | ah shit spoke too soon |
| 08:56.16 | evl_ | what's a good performance profiler? |
| 08:58.35 | Nargiddley | Orionshock, http://narg.pastey.net/77543 |
| 08:58.49 | Nargiddley | thats just a start |
| 08:59.40 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r55266 10FuBar_MailFu/Core.lua: FuBar_MailFu: update koKR locales |
| 08:59.57 | Orionshock | ok ... so Arrowmaster is right |
| 08:59.58 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 09:00.10 | Arrowmaster | told you |
| 09:00.31 | Orionshock | ... im happy that i was wrong but im bruised that i am :| |
| 09:01.29 | Arrowmaster | but not that im so close to netherwing ledge i guess ill go do the booterang daily for some gold |
| 09:02.24 | CIA-4 | 03ckknight * r55267 10LibRock-1.0/ (LibRock-1.0.toc lib.xml): LibRock-1.0 - |
| 09:02.35 | ckknight | damn svn client |
| 09:04.21 | Polarina | ckknight: It happens. Want a undo button? |
| 09:04.32 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: that helps but ... im not sure i understand :( |
| 09:04.40 | ckknight | in this work-a-day world we don't have time for undoing! |
| 09:04.42 | Nargiddley | what are you stuck on ? |
| 09:05.38 | Orionshock | i reverse enginer things... i get the idea behind using a string-> function call for the Get/Set options... but like i said i don't know what's in this info table so i don't know how to use it |
| 09:05.45 | Silowyi | WTB: brains for raid members |
| 09:06.06 | Orionshock | Silowyi: you don't have enough money and can't give enough head for that ... sorry |
| 09:06.09 | Silowyi | it is sooooo pathetically easy to avoid the flame bombs Jan'alai throws out |
| 09:06.13 | breser | ckknight: damn svn client? |
| 09:06.22 | Silowyi | so why the hell are people dying to them on every attempt |
| 09:08.46 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: perty sure you can change the commit message with svn PROPNAME --revprop -r 55267 PROPVAL http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibRock-1.0/ but i dont know what to use for PROPNAME |
| 09:10.55 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r55268 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:10.55 | CIA-4 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:10.55 | CIA-4 | - update koKR |
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| 09:13.01 | Diao | holyc rap |
| 09:13.02 | Diao | check it out |
| 09:13.11 | Diao | http://sigs.guildlaunch.net/sig.php/1066230hxdBA.png |
| 09:13.22 | Diao | apparently my 2v2 rating is 4837 |
| 09:14.19 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: that pasty , u mean thet that first arg passed in get and set look like that? where its just a plain list of the options table k.name values... |
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| 09:14.42 | Orionshock | *v. name |
| 09:15.39 | Nargiddley | its the keys not names, but yeah its a list of them |
| 09:16.01 | Orionshock | ooo |
| 09:16.06 | Orionshock | this can go somewhere |
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| 09:16.59 | Orionshock | so 2 and 3 would be the NPC and quest? |
| 09:17.05 | Nargiddley | yep |
| 09:17.19 | Orionshock | sure? |
| 09:17.22 | Nargiddley | #list being 3, so thats what the functions get |
| 09:17.33 | Orionshock | something tells me it's 3 and 4 |
| 09:17.38 | Nargiddley | list[#list] is the key of the current option |
| 09:18.49 | Orionshock | but even so list[#list] is the name of the object calling it and list[#list-1] would be it's parent's object, and in turn the quest and npc |
| 09:18.56 | Nargiddley | yep |
| 09:21.55 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r713 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/25_27_Wetlands.lua: TG: tweaks to wetlands |
| 09:23.04 | ckknight | hilarious: http://www.jinx.com/world_of_warcraft/men/green_linen_shirt_slim_fit_t_shirt.html?catid=79 |
| 09:24.54 | Gngsk | should be all like "WTS [Green Linen Shirt]" |
| 09:25.09 | Orionshock | meh , put that on the back |
| 09:25.12 | CIA-4 | 03bam * r55269 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 09:25.12 | CIA-4 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 09:25.12 | CIA-4 | - Price updates. |
| 09:25.53 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r55270 10TrackingBar/ (TrackingBar.lua TrackingBar.toc): TrackingBar - update for 2.3 |
| 09:26.03 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r55271 10AspectsBar/ (AspectsBar.lua AspectsBar.toc): AspectsBar - update for 2.3 |
| 09:26.40 | Diao | http://clockwork-guild.net/sig.jpg |
| 09:26.52 | Diao | according to guildlaunch I am the best warrior in the world for 2v2 by a margin of over 2000 rating |
| 09:26.53 | Diao | :) |
| 09:26.58 | Gngsk | Orionshock, I meant on the webpage :P |
| 09:27.16 | Orionshock | lol |
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| 09:30.10 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: AceConfigDialog-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua:570: Method doesn't exist in handler |
| 09:30.12 | Orionshock | :( |
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| 09:30.37 | Wobin | ckknight: My friend has that tshirt |
| 09:31.13 | Nargiddley | using a local function or a function of the addon |
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| 09:33.01 | Orionshock | function of the addon |
| 09:33.29 | Orionshock | ... is there a 3rd arg to RegisterOptionsTable for AceConfig? |
| 09:33.30 | Nargiddley | put handler = addon into the root of the options table |
| 09:34.25 | Orionshock | do i need a "" round it? |
| 09:35.05 | Nargiddley | no, the actual addon object |
| 09:36.24 | Orionshock | ok i put the base object in, now im get nil errors... |
| 09:36.38 | Orionshock | time to ghetto reverse engineer this |
| 09:37.02 | Nargiddley | what nil errors ? |
| 09:37.54 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 09:37.59 | Orionshock | ok... well that explains it... |
| 09:39.00 | Orionshock | http://narg.pastey.net/77548 |
| 09:39.09 | Orionshock | ... i'd have to traverse the table to make it work... |
| 09:39.14 | Orionshock | bitchier but do able... |
| 09:40.14 | Nargiddley | why traverse it ? |
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| 09:40.46 | Orionshock | npc = info.options.args[info[1]][info[2]].name |
| 09:41.12 | Nargiddley | change from using the short keys to using the actual name |
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| 09:41.13 | Orionshock | unless i want to further complicate shit |
| 09:41.25 | Orionshock | by doing that... |
| 09:41.28 | Orionshock | not sure i want to... |
| 09:41.42 | Kazie | Are there any way to make ClassTimers show ALL debuffs on the target isntead of only from yourself? .. or something alike that does? |
| 09:42.02 | Orionshock | so Nargiddley , real question is what's less bloatie? |
| 09:42.11 | Nargiddley | not sure :/ |
| 09:42.58 | Nargiddley | other way would be to set arg = { L["Npc Name"], L["Quest Name"] } on the options |
| 09:43.31 | Orionshock | .... |
| 09:43.51 | Nargiddley | then info.arg[1] would be the npc info.arg[2] would be the quest |
| 09:44.18 | Orionshock | that would be much simpler |
| 09:44.34 | Orionshock | {} |
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| 09:46.37 | Arrowmaster | Kazie: you can only get the duration left from your own debuffs |
| 09:46.57 | Arrowmaster | try ElkBuffBars |
| 09:48.07 | sag_ich_nicht | is there an addon that groups the cooking frame into buff food/non-buff food |
| 09:48.30 | Arrowmaster | lol seeing securecall() in an addon action blocked error is funny |
| 09:50.24 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 09:50.51 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: can i just do " args = L["Sky Sergeant Doryn"] " and not make a table? |
| 09:51.16 | Nargiddley | hm, yeah that would work since the info[#info] is already the quest |
| 09:51.40 | Nargiddley | wait thats with the keys anyway |
| 09:51.56 | Orionshock | ? |
| 09:52.22 | Nargiddley | you wanted to avoid having the keys at the full quest name |
| 09:52.27 | Orionshock | ya |
| 09:52.44 | Orionshock | does the args have to be a table? |
| 09:52.50 | Nargiddley | its anything |
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| 09:53.17 | Cartas | Hi old chaps! |
| 09:53.24 | Gngsk | mornin' |
| 09:53.52 | Cartas | I log into WoW but it's like I have no connection with the server... I can run around and such, but people won't load in, the game shows I have 0ms... and eventually I get d/c'd. |
| 09:54.06 | Cartas | I have no idea what's wrong, I disabled all addons and the problem occurs still... hilfe mich! |
| 09:57.04 | sag_ich_nicht | repair.exe |
| 09:57.13 | Cartas | I'll give it a shot, old chap! |
| 09:57.27 | Cartas | This doesn't clean the interface or WTF folders, does it/ |
| 10:01.18 | Cartas | Ah, good, I get to choose. |
| 10:05.27 | Kazie | Does anyone know a descent addon that shows ALL debuffs on the target ... maybe with a look similar to ClassTimers? |
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| 10:09.02 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: it appears as if info.args is not the right table.. |
| 10:09.06 | Orionshock | is it info.arg? |
| 10:09.17 | Nargiddley | ah yeah, sorry |
| 10:09.26 | Orionshock | ~slap |
| 10:09.31 | Orionshock | ~slap Nargiddley |
| 10:09.31 | purl | ACTION slaps Nargiddley, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 10:09.36 | SunTsu | Kazie: Looks like that's what Antagonist does |
| 10:10.04 | Xinhuan | argh is there a way ingame |
| 10:10.10 | Xinhuan | to see which addons are using a library |
| 10:10.19 | Orionshock | ... Xinhuan ... yes |
| 10:10.25 | Orionshock | .... |
| 10:10.37 | Orionshock | but it'll take for ever for me to tell you, ask ckknight |
| 10:10.48 | Xinhuan | like a list returned by some ace2 api that gives a list of addons that registered a library |
| 10:10.57 | Xinhuan | in the AceAddon() call |
| 10:10.58 | Orionshock | yes |
| 10:11.22 | Kazie | SunTsu: So Antagonist is leik super imba? :) |
| 10:11.32 | Orionshock | ~fail Nargiddley |
| 10:11.33 | purl | Nargiddley: Fail. |
| 10:11.40 | Orionshock | try again arg dosn't exist either... |
| 10:11.54 | Nargiddley | it only exists if the option sets it |
| 10:12.00 | SunTsu | Kazie: I never tested it - my screen is too full for anything more to show up ;) |
| 10:12.16 | Orionshock | ? |
| 10:12.20 | Orionshock | passvalue = true? |
| 10:12.39 | Kazie | hehe okay :) .. but the discription says it tracks cast times, buffs and cooldowns :o |
| 10:12.53 | Kazie | by buffs does that mean debuffs also you think? :P |
| 10:14.03 | SunTsu | Kazie: I think so, I would try it out, but I just like to see WoW - at least a little bit |
| 10:14.39 | Kazie | hehe :) .. well... i don't have any problems on my 1680x1050 ^^ |
| 10:15.13 | Nargiddley | Orionshock: arg = whatever |
| 10:15.25 | Kazie | I even have most of my eePanels to only show when omen, party is showing, when i fold down my chats those eepanels are resized too :P hehe |
| 10:15.29 | SunTsu | Kazie: Then, just test it ;) |
| 10:16.03 | Orionshock | right... |
| 10:16.08 | Orionshock | learning to pay attention tonight... |
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| 10:17.57 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: for quartz, UnitCastingInfo("player") returns for the cooking pot thats displaying wrong with tradeskillmerge: "Spiritual Soup", "", "Spiritual Soup", "Interface\\Icons\\INV_Misc_Food_15", 2020236300, 2020241300, true |
| 10:19.27 | Arrowmaster | dont know why blizzard marked that thing as a crafting spell |
| 10:19.45 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: ok, i'll make a note of it, but i'm about to go to sleep, so remind me tomorrow |
| 10:19.51 | Arrowmaster | k |
| 10:19.55 | nymbia | thanks |
| 10:19.58 | Arrowmaster | np |
| 10:20.03 | nymbia | night all |
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| 10:21.03 | Orionshock | ~lart Author_Of_SimpleMiniMap |
| 10:21.03 | purl | duct-tapes Author_Of_SimpleMiniMap to the floor and drools on him |
| 10:21.23 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:22.15 | Nargiddley | oh I hate those kinds of errors |
| 10:22.17 | Pkekyo | what DPS/Tank/Healer distribution is needed for Zuk'aman? |
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| 10:22.39 | starlon | 3 healers, 2 tanks |
| 10:22.54 | Orionshock | ya Nargiddley _G.info |
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| 10:22.59 | Orionshock | makes you wonder.... |
| 10:23.06 | Nargiddley | I once had something similar with _G.self |
| 10:23.22 | Pkekyo | 13 hopeful DPSers signed for today's ZA raid :> |
| 10:23.24 | Orionshock | <3 issecurevariable() |
| 10:23.28 | Nargiddley | took me ages to figure out why a function was erroring for some people |
| 10:25.37 | Arrowmaster | and now we have /console taintLog 2 |
| 10:28.21 | Cartas | I log into WoW but it's like I have no connection with the server... I can run around and such, but people won't load in, the game shows I have 0ms... and eventually I get d/c'd. I have no idea what's wrong, I disabled all addons and the problem occurs still... hilfe mich! |
| 10:28.58 | Lukian | Cartas, try again? |
| 10:29.04 | Cartas | ... |
| 10:29.15 | Cartas | You think after trying 10+ times it'll suddenly work? |
| 10:29.33 | Cartas | I don't really want to just keep trying over and over and hope it magically works, doesn't sound a very useful way to spend the time. |
| 10:29.35 | Nargiddley | tried clearing out the cache ? |
| 10:29.41 | Cartas | Done that, didn't help :( |
| 10:30.07 | Cartas | Hmmm...! |
| 10:31.06 | [Horde]Tricksy | repair, clear cache/wtf/addons, whatever :p |
| 10:32.13 | Cartas | I'll give it another go! |
| 10:32.36 | Gngsk | has files not been updating? nymbia made a commit to manufac like 5 1/2 hours ago and it's not up on files yet |
| 10:33.53 | Nargiddley | an external is set wrong for it |
| 10:34.49 | Nargiddley | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt is the first place to look if an addon isn't being updated |
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| 10:35.34 | Ozguli | Cartas firewall? |
| 10:35.46 | Cartas | Hm |
| 10:36.03 | Cartas | I've no idea how that could be a problem, Ozguli. It worked fine yesterday, I'll have a check for the settings though! |
| 10:36.23 | Ozguli | weird things can happen |
| 10:36.27 | Cartas | I know :P |
| 10:36.40 | Cartas | Hm, my firewall shows it's unblocked. |
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| 10:38.51 | Nickenyfiken | Uh Mendeleev is broken :-/ |
| 10:39.15 | [Ammo] | it's not you just need PT3.1 |
| 10:39.31 | Cartas | Gah |
| 10:39.32 | Nickenyfiken | I know, still broken :-) |
| 10:39.41 | [Ammo] | works for me |
| 10:39.44 | Cartas | No luck, [Horde]Tricksy. :( |
| 10:39.50 | CIA-4 | 03pettigrow * r55274 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Fish: frFR Update |
| 10:39.52 | [Horde]Tricksy | sorry :( |
| 10:39.58 | Cartas | What could have happened...? |
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| 10:42.31 | Ellipsis | wait what, PT3.1? |
| 10:42.33 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 10:42.58 | Ellipsis | anything special about it or is it just libstubbed? |
| 10:43.22 | Arrowmaster | dont think its compressed to save cpu cycles instead of memory |
| 10:44.19 | [Horde]Tricksy | anyone know if daily BG quests are random per person per day or just a different bg each day but the same for everyone? |
| 10:44.47 | Arrowmaster | random per server |
| 10:45.04 | [Horde]Tricksy | wtf maybe that's why it's not working for me |
| 10:45.54 | [Horde]Tricksy | I have a different one from my friend who is on the same server. I've been doing it for 4 days, I just can't hand the things in :E |
| 10:45.57 | grzesieq_ | [Horde]Tricksy: a friend of mine claims it's different in each city, dunno about that |
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| 10:46.05 | [Horde]Tricksy | hmm |
| 10:46.31 | [Horde]Tricksy | well in any case, whichever I pick up, I can win BG's all I want, I can't hand em in :E |
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| 10:49.23 | [Horde]Tricksy | hmm seems to be same, in Shat and Orgrimmar at least |
| 10:50.11 | Wogroipl | what was that script that prints the frame your mouse is over in chat again? |
| 10:50.11 | Pkekyo | Toadkiller: ping? |
| 10:50.42 | Pkekyo | ~seen toadkiller |
| 10:50.44 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 6h 57m 2s ago, saying: 'Yeah always use a soft brush'. |
| 10:51.00 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 10:53.36 | Lukian | rofl |
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| 10:54.34 | Ellipsis | hmm...I wonder if any authors will actually be willing to make PT optional... |
| 10:55.17 | Nargiddley | with the new item types that 2.3 has I'm tempted to go that way with Baggins |
| 10:56.05 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: PT? |
| 10:56.18 | Nargiddley | PeriodicTable |
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| 10:59.21 | [Horde]Tricksy | anyone know if there's an option to detach or at least move the typing portion of the chatbar with prat? Thought it did but I can't seem to find it |
| 10:59.23 | Pkekyo | meh, I keep forgetting that I'm gonna reroll baggins >.< |
| 10:59.50 | Pkekyo | [Horde]Tricksy: no, there isn't (afaik), but you can chose where on the chat frame it's supposed to dock |
| 10:59.52 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: I'd love you forever |
| 11:00.09 | Ellipsis | right now the biggest problem with my UI is missing Baggins =[ |
| 11:00.24 | [Horde]Tricksy | Pkekyo: Ok thanks, that'll do I think, just need to find it then :p |
| 11:02.35 | [Horde]Tricksy | Pkekyo> Woo found it, it can even undock ^^ |
| 11:04.15 | Pkekyo | congrats then |
| 11:04.20 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r55275 10Cartographer1/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer1: update to PT-3.1 too |
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| 11:06.07 | Fisker- | lolwut nevcairiel? |
| 11:07.22 | Pkekyo | indeed, lolwut? |
| 11:07.43 | nevcairiel | wah? |
| 11:07.58 | Fisker- | Cartographer1? |
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| 11:08.14 | nevcairiel | its the pre-rock version which we maintain with some fixes |
| 11:08.25 | nevcairiel | you didnt notice it in the last month? :P |
| 11:08.25 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 11:08.28 | Fisker- | nope |
| 11:08.36 | nevcairiel | there is FuBar2 too |
| 11:08.40 | Fisker- | i knew that one |
| 11:09.47 | Ellipsis | anyone know of an addon that prevents shard/ammo bags from opening when you open all (default) bags? |
| 11:14.34 | Ellipsis | k google's no more helpful than you guys |
| 11:14.38 | Ellipsis | surely someone's done this before >_> |
| 11:15.16 | Wogroipl | you can set Baggins up to do that |
| 11:15.57 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: are you using a bag addon atm? |
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| 11:16.43 | Ellipsis | no |
| 11:17.02 | Ellipsis | I normally use Baggins but since it switched to PT3.1 I'm going without until that's made optional |
| 11:17.11 | Ellipsis | I'm just trying to find a way to make default bags usable :P |
| 11:17.25 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with PT-3.1? |
| 11:17.26 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley * r55276 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua Baggins.toc): Baggins: PeriodicTable is now optional, the PTSet rule will only be available if it is loaded |
| 11:17.27 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, thats not long |
| 11:17.33 | Nargiddley | :P |
| 11:17.40 | Ellipsis | I didn't want PT3.0, and I don't want PT3.1 even more |
| 11:17.41 | many | anyone knows what the lila (purple) enchant for weapons is? |
| 11:17.46 | Ellipsis | memory is more important than CPU for me :P |
| 11:17.59 | nevcairiel | you know, memory is like cheap these days |
| 11:18.00 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:18.09 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, I think i've got everything. Let me know if theres probs |
| 11:18.12 | CIA-4 | 03ominous 07Ace3 * r55277 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer/Bars/ (Hunter.lua Paladin.lua): ClassTimer: Added Aimed Shot |
| 11:18.21 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: thanks, but I see no point in upgrading my computer's hardware when I'm about to replace it |
| 11:18.33 | nevcairiel | valid argument |
| 11:18.35 | Ellipsis | I'd rather my software fit my needs than required me to buy new parts :) |
| 11:18.45 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: thanks a ton, will update as soon as files refreshes :) |
| 11:19.24 | Nargiddley | its still got PT embedded and WAU will most likely stilll pull it. but it wont complain if its not there |
| 11:19.36 | Varazir[NA] | if I just like to have cords on the global map what addon should I use then ? |
| 11:19.37 | buu | HA HA YOU SUX. |
| 11:19.42 | Nargiddley | other than some default rules doing absolutely nothing |
| 11:19.43 | Nargiddley | heh |
| 11:19.48 | Ellipsis | that's no problem, I use disembedded libs and an updater that doesn't do auto dependency crap :P |
| 11:19.53 | buu | Ellipsis: Warlock t5 was designed by retarded children sniffing lead. |
| 11:19.58 | Ellipsis | and I certainly don't use default rules |
| 11:20.00 | Ellipsis | buu: you just noticed? |
| 11:20.11 | buu | Warlock t4 wasn't designed, it was generated with a random die. |
| 11:20.27 | nevcairiel | imho all warlock sets look more funny then the other classes |
| 11:20.29 | Ellipsis | anything's a step up from plagueheart, though |
| 11:20.33 | buu | Ellipsis: The only explanation I can come up with is that a) they hate warlocks, B) they spent half the item budget on stam. |
| 11:20.38 | Ellipsis | I mean seriously, multicolored frog eyes |
| 11:20.47 | nevcairiel | warlock t3 was ftw |
| 11:20.57 | Nargiddley | everything but the helm sure |
| 11:21.00 | Ellipsis | buu: ohhh, you mean the stats? yeah roflsauce |
| 11:21.18 | buu | Ellipsis: Yes.. the looks are pretty awesome actually. |
| 11:21.25 | buu | In that sort of over done gothic way. |
| 11:21.31 | Ellipsis | I'm considering most t5 pieces a sidegrade |
| 11:21.36 | buu | Ellipsis: They are. |
| 11:21.36 | nevcairiel | look at warlock t6, you get dragon wings! |
| 11:21.39 | Ellipsis | which is sad since I don't even have kara items |
| 11:21.43 | buu | nevcairiel: Demon wings! |
| 11:21.49 | buu | And yeah, awesomest set ever. |
| 11:21.50 | Nargiddley | argh stop making me want to raid again >< |
| 11:22.03 | Nargiddley | stupid timezone means I cant anymore |
| 11:22.04 | buu | Ellipsis: The only t5 upgrade I see over crafted items are the shoulders and the chest. |
| 11:22.08 | [Ammo] | Ellipsis: try Combuctor |
| 11:22.08 | nevcairiel | we have like 3 locks with the head piece already |
| 11:22.09 | nevcairiel | so funny |
| 11:22.11 | [Ammo] | beta is on forum |
| 11:22.14 | nevcairiel | even procs while dead |
| 11:22.20 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: OneSuite, try it |
| 11:22.21 | [Ammo] | or alpha or something |
| 11:22.23 | Ellipsis | I don't like combuctor's layout, but thanks for the suggestion :) |
| 11:22.29 | buu | Shoulders are -9 damage + 18 hit, chest is -15 damage + 23 hit + socket |
| 11:22.32 | felirx | don't worry, T5 is a full sidegrade to T4/kara for a paladin after the set bonus nerf |
| 11:22.39 | buu | felirx: =[ |
| 11:22.40 | Ellipsis | I'm happy with my bag solution, just needed a temporary fix to an annoying problem |
| 11:22.52 | nevcairiel | sucks to be you, i guess. my T5 and T6 are awesome |
| 11:23.16 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: whats your bag solution? |
| 11:23.20 | Ellipsis | Baggins |
| 11:23.24 | nevcairiel | aaanyway, back to wrok on my map addon |
| 11:23.31 | buu | nevcairiel: Warlocks in full t4 should be shot. |
| 11:24.01 | Ellipsis | t4 makes me giggle |
| 11:24.03 | Orionshock | ... im gonna stick with my origional sugestion, OneSuite, works wonders once you get used to it |
| 11:24.19 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: I used to use OneSuite, but it was the exact opposite of what I wanted |
| 11:24.29 | Ellipsis | I want lots of separate, little bags that can be opened separately |
| 11:24.31 | nevcairiel | i love the search feature in Combuctor |
| 11:24.38 | Ellipsis | I don't really need automatic sorting; I'd prefer to do it myself |
| 11:24.48 | Ellipsis | but since there's nothing that splits bags up and doesn't sort...meh |
| 11:24.49 | nevcairiel | where was that quest item again ... *types in name* |
| 11:24.52 | nevcairiel | ah there it is! |
| 11:24.52 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: there is a plugin for one bag that lets you do that... |
| 11:24.55 | Orionshock | forget what it's called |
| 11:25.04 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: no, OneBagPockets makes separate *sections* in the one frame |
| 11:25.09 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley * r55278 10Baggins/Baggins-Filtering.lua: Baggins: Remove debug print |
| 11:25.15 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 11:25.17 | Nargiddley | I gotta stop doing that :/ |
| 11:25.18 | Ellipsis | it doesn't make extra frames which can be opened and closed separateyl |
| 11:25.21 | many | :) anyone knows what the lila (purple) enchant for weapons is? |
| 11:25.30 | [Ammo] | why can enchanting recipies be put in Soul Shard bags according to PT3.1? |
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| 11:25.35 | [Ammo] | that's bullshit |
| 11:25.38 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: thought you could seperate them out |
| 11:25.44 | felirx | baggins has those "small" bags separated by gategory if you're not using it already |
| 11:25.44 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: trust me, I tried :P |
| 11:25.49 | [Ammo] | ["Misc.Container.ItemsInType.Soul Shard"]="20736,20734,20735,20729,20730,20731,20726,33307,11168,17019,23683,6265", |
| 11:26.16 | Ellipsis | that's a whole lot of different soul shards |
| 11:26.30 | [Ammo] | that's enchanting formulas |
| 11:26.34 | Pkekyo | rofl, just soloed 40% of a 72 elite's hp |
| 11:26.34 | [Ammo] | only 6265 is a soulshard |
| 11:26.46 | [Ammo] | roll a warlock, learn to fear and solo 100% |
| 11:26.47 | Dhraga | ~seen Grennon |
| 11:26.49 | purl | grennon <n=jdawg@user-38lm5go.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 141d 6h 39m 43s ago, saying: 'so if I gem something and dont get the bonus, it is still added to the pawn value'. |
| 11:27.01 | buu | [Ammo]: Roll a hunter, l2 autoshot and mend pet 100%! |
| 11:27.06 | buu | Anyone |
| 11:27.08 | Pkekyo | [Ammo]: I'm a prot warrior in tankinggear :> |
| 11:27.15 | Ellipsis | I'm gonna have to go with [Ammo] on this one: if it's fearable, it's soloable :P |
| 11:27.17 | Fisker- | LOLWUT |
| 11:27.18 | buu | Someone make AI collapse "special bags" plzkthx. |
| 11:27.19 | Dhraga | ouch, grennon isn't here verry often :P |
| 11:27.22 | buu | Ellipsis: Even if it isn't.. |
| 11:27.27 | Fisker- | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 11:27.29 | Fisker- | that's fucking genius |
| 11:27.31 | buu | Ellipsis: I solo the demon hunters on top of BT when I get bored. |
| 11:27.38 | Ellipsis | I solo your mom when I get bored |
| 11:27.40 | Ellipsis | I think I win |
| 11:27.51 | buu | Good, she needs it. |
| 11:27.57 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: ItemOps still wants PT |
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| 11:29.03 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, k |
| 11:29.29 | Ellipsis | but at least my bags are back \o/ |
| 11:29.43 | JoFu | anyone in here involved in Omen/ThreadLib development ? |
| 11:29.48 | Nargiddley | hm, the sorting code is using it for special bags |
| 11:29.58 | Nargiddley | not sure what I can do to that without breaking it :/ |
| 11:32.20 | grzesieq_ | uhm, did they implement the gear matching in BGs? |
| 11:33.21 | nevcairiel | long ago |
| 11:33.42 | Polarina | We are forming a guild on a European realm for addon development if anyone is interested in signing the [Guild Charter]. Realm is Anachronos, Alliance. |
| 11:34.28 | JoFu | Guys, I would like to know if Omen is able to detect Lightning Overloads (Shaman) wich are no longer causing threat since 2.3, hm? |
| 11:34.53 | Ellipsis | hm, that is tricky Nargiddley >_> |
| 11:35.20 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies5/core.lua |
| 11:35.23 | Orionshock | try that :D |
| 11:35.23 | Dhraga | Polarina I can sign that charter, logging in now, what character should I contact ? |
| 11:35.39 | Polarina | Dhraga: Her name is Polarina. |
| 11:35.48 | Dhraga | ok |
| 11:36.04 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley * r55279 10Baggins/Baggins_ItemOps.lua: Baggins: Make PT Optional for ItemOps as well |
| 11:36.18 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, I removed logic to do with special bags from the sort. It might act weird sorting but dunno what to do about that yet. |
| 11:36.30 | Nargiddley | when pt isnt loaded that is |
| 11:36.35 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r55280 10/branches/Mapster/: Mapster: create branch directory |
| 11:36.58 | Nargiddley | I think its basicly just stacking things so it shouldnt matter |
| 11:37.40 | Ellipsis | yeah, hopefully it should be ok since stacks shouldn't be started in bags they can't be put in |
| 11:38.06 | Ellipsis | I'll let you know if I have any problems |
| 11:38.35 | Nargiddley | It'll be splitting that might have problems |
| 11:39.01 | Nargiddley | and i think it tried to move things into specialty if possible |
| 11:39.14 | Nargiddley | not my code so I'm figuring it out as I go heh |
| 11:39.16 | Xinhuan | 34% archimonde attempt, soooooooo want to kill him tonight |
| 11:39.34 | Nargiddley | but no errors from a small test so should be ok |
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| 11:40.24 | Ellipsis | so the behavior now is that things will be split into normal bags even if they can go in special bags? |
| 11:40.49 | Nargiddley | something like that |
| 11:40.58 | Ellipsis | seems like a decent solution since you rarely split things just to keep them stored that way |
| 11:41.00 | Nargiddley | might try splitting things into bags they can't go in as well |
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| 11:44.06 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r55282 10Mapster/ (. Mapster.lua): Mapster: fix a bug with storing the position |
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| 11:45.21 | Orionshock | Kaelten: any plans for a OneGuildBank? |
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| 11:48.47 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: yeah, when the first empty slot is in a specialty bag, it will try to split items into it |
| 11:48.49 | CIA-4 | 03ammo * r55283 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Misc/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Misc.lua: LibPeriodicTable-3.1: soul shard bags can't contain enchanting formulas. |
| 11:49.30 | Ellipsis | gives a "couldn't split those items" message |
| 11:49.44 | Ellipsis | would be nice if it tried all normal bags and then specialty bags |
| 11:49.53 | Fisker- | [Ammo] according to wowhead it can |
| 11:50.06 | [Ammo] | wowhead is stupid |
| 11:50.08 | Xinhuan | btw, since patch 2.3, enchanting bags can hold essences of fire/undeath/etc (the lvl 60 stuff) |
| 11:50.09 | Fisker- | no u |
| 11:50.38 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, i'll look into that in the next few days |
| 11:50.40 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: can hold motes and primals too |
| 11:50.44 | Nargiddley | Sleep time now |
| 11:50.45 | Nargiddley | night |
| 11:50.53 | Ellipsis | g'night, thanks for the help <3 |
| 11:51.29 | Ellipsis | tbh, enchanting bags got a huge buff in 2.3, suprised more people aren't buying them to farm with :P |
| 11:54.27 | Orionshock | gdi - scanning the AH with classicV5 of auctioneer ... still skyrocketed to ~20mb of mem useage before GC |
| 11:54.46 | nevcairiel | is there a version of auctioneer that uses the new API yet? |
| 11:55.01 | Nickenyfiken | What API? |
| 11:55.16 | nevcairiel | get all items in the AH with one call |
| 11:55.21 | nevcairiel | every 15 minutes once |
| 11:55.24 | Nickenyfiken | Is that in 2.3? |
| 11:55.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:56.28 | Nickenyfiken | Then they should have. AucAdv was last upted 2 days ago |
| 11:56.52 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: the classicpack v5 under preview does |
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| 11:58.09 | cryogen | nevcairiel: the new api is broken, last i heard |
| 11:58.31 | cryogen | not sure if they have worked around it yet, or if they can |
| 11:58.40 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 11:59.20 | cryogen | apparently it causes frequent disconnects when used, or something |
| 11:59.52 | Orionshock | anyone found a way to get rid of or shrink the size of the ! on the map? |
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| 12:04.24 | Nickenyfiken | Its probably impossible to alter them, like the yellow tracking dots. |
| 12:04.29 | Nickenyfiken | Thats my guess |
| 12:04.54 | cryogen | i love those :) |
| 12:05.12 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:05.22 | Orionshock | i am not installing dev tools |
| 12:05.25 | Orionshock | someone else do it |
| 12:05.46 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r55284 10Mapster/Mapster.lua: Mapster: pressing esc will now close the map |
| 12:06.05 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:06.12 | Nickenyfiken | Mapster hmm |
| 12:06.17 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: making some competition to cart? |
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| 12:06.58 | nevcairiel | dunno if you want to call it competition, its supposed to be much smaller |
| 12:07.09 | Orionshock | hehe |
| 12:07.32 | Nickenyfiken | Just smaller like in less features? |
| 12:08.02 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 12:08.24 | Nickenyfiken | Plugins? |
| 12:08.46 | nevcairiel | any addon that directly works with the worldmap should work with mapster, no direct plugin interface |
| 12:08.52 | nevcairiel | like you can use gatherer and tomtom |
| 12:09.02 | nevcairiel | what i will do .. :) |
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| 12:09.36 | Nickenyfiken | Isn't gatherer bloat? |
| 12:09.43 | Orionshock | imho 3pa plugins shit stuff up sometimes |
| 12:10.04 | nevcairiel | not more bloat then the carto implementation imho |
| 12:10.23 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:10.59 | Arrowmaster | last time i used gatherer it was perty bad preformance wise compared to cartographer |
| 12:12.03 | Nickenyfiken | Well, what features are planned for Mapster? |
| 12:12.24 | nevcairiel | mostly only stuff to change the style of the worldmap display |
| 12:12.46 | Nickenyfiken | ok |
| 12:13.25 | Nickenyfiken | Like Carto Look n' Feel? |
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| 12:13.41 | nevcairiel | ya, but a bit more |
| 12:13.58 | nevcairiel | groupcolors and foglight too |
| 12:13.59 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 12:14.01 | nevcairiel | not sure yet |
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| 12:17.27 | Nickenyfiken | Oki |
| 12:18.56 | nevcairiel | I'll add what i need for my map :) |
| 12:20.16 | sb | mhpf |
| 12:20.23 | sb | wtb guild bank stuff on eu.wowarmory :/ |
| 12:26.08 | CIA-4 | 03pettigrow * r55285 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: frFR Update |
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| 12:28.39 | Ellipsis | apparently you can't enchant items in your bank in 2.3 |
| 12:28.41 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 12:29.01 | Ellipsis | it will even do the replace enchant popup if there's already an enchant on it |
| 12:29.08 | Ellipsis | but then it just says the item is not a valid target |
| 12:29.10 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:29.20 | nevcairiel | just take it out of the bank before? |
| 12:29.22 | Gngsk | what's the significance? |
| 12:29.28 | Ellipsis | yeah, that's jus kinda annoying |
| 12:29.31 | Ellipsis | stupid bug imo |
| 12:29.36 | cryogen | you couldnt do that before 2.3 |
| 12:29.38 | cryogen | at least, i couldnt |
| 12:29.58 | nevcairiel | i cant think of a case where i would even want to enchant stuff in my bank |
| 12:30.00 | Ellipsis | I thought you could...meh, I don't recall a specific instance where I did though |
| 12:30.13 | cryogen | oh no, i was trying to *dis*enchant something in the bank |
| 12:30.14 | Ellipsis | I was young, I needed the skillups |
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| 12:55.13 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: no more taint issues from durabilityFu that i can see |
| 12:55.46 | Arrowmaster | did everything still work fine? i made a lot of untested changes |
| 12:55.58 | Xinhuan | i died enough times to reach 1% durability |
| 12:56.02 | Xinhuan | and paperdoll didn't appear |
| 12:56.11 | Xinhuan | sucks repeat wiping to archimonde 30-50% everytime |
| 12:56.21 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
| 12:56.28 | Xinhuan | its like OMG so perfect, then a pally dies and we go 4 sec silence ZZZZ |
| 12:56.52 | Arrowmaster | wait a pally died on archimonde? |
| 12:56.53 | Tornhoof | tell him to get the pvp trinket ;) |
| 12:57.01 | Xinhuan | yep, he's like trinket on cd, DS on cd |
| 12:57.05 | Xinhuan | then dies |
| 12:57.15 | Xinhuan | after being feared into CF |
| 12:57.17 | Xinhuan | DF |
| 12:57.36 | Tornhoof | dunno i do archi (as a shaman) most of the time without the trinket |
| 12:59.26 | Tornhoof | just check fear cd and get away from the fire as far as possible ;) |
| 12:59.33 | nevcairiel | how does he die by just getting feared in the fire? |
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| 13:02.58 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 13:03.05 | Xinhuan | our MT gets both doomfire and curse right before a fire |
| 13:03.06 | Xinhuan | and dies now |
| 13:03.10 | Xinhuan | a fear* |
| 13:03.32 | Tornhoof | and all dispellers have all break capabilities on cd? |
| 13:03.47 | Xinhuan | nah, just too much damage to heal |
| 13:04.03 | nevcairiel | we used to have a druid fearwarded all the time (me), that was there to dispel and heal during fear .. havent been there since antifear patch |
| 13:04.08 | Xinhuan | 2.5k per tick from curse, 2k from doomfire, 4k per archi hit |
| 13:04.19 | Xinhuan | that's like 10k per sec |
| 13:04.34 | Tornhoof | just put a dispeller in a shaman group |
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| 13:04.52 | Xinhuan | problem is really that our warr MT isn't online |
| 13:05.00 | Xinhuan | so we're doing it with a druid MT atm |
| 13:05.16 | Tornhoof | ah that sux |
| 13:05.23 | nevcairiel | mm yeah |
| 13:05.27 | nevcairiel | no stancedance |
| 13:05.33 | Xinhuan | its still alright |
| 13:05.42 | nevcairiel | so tank risks getting feared into fire |
| 13:05.45 | Xinhuan | dying was to stupid mistakes, not to lack of stance dance |
| 13:05.49 | Paradox | hey guys.. I got a cooking recipe last week, and I don't have it now, apparantly, I think Skillet is bugged o_O |
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| 13:06.17 | Xinhuan | that's pretty much the only risk |
| 13:06.23 | Xinhuan | normally the MT wouldn't even get DFed |
| 13:08.34 | Polarina | We are forming a guild on a European realm for addon development if anyone is interested in signing the [Guild Charter]. Realm is Anachronos, Alliance. (: |
| 13:09.26 | Xinhuan | why would anyone log on that realm/guild to develop addons instead of doing it in their own guild :) |
| 13:09.57 | Wobin | if they'll put stuff into the guildbank for me to test |
| 13:09.59 | Wobin | i'm all for it |
| 13:10.12 | Polarina | Wobin: http://www.wowwiki.com/In-game_developer_guilds |
| 13:10.13 | Xinhuan | i'll let you test on mine :) |
| 13:10.14 | Wobin | granted, I'm on US =P |
| 13:10.14 | nevcairiel | only that you're not EU |
| 13:10.31 | CIA-4 | 03dfscott * r55286 10AzuarcLevelGuide/AzuarcLevelGuide.lua: |
| 13:10.31 | CIA-4 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 13:10.31 | CIA-4 | - Removed debugging msgs left in by mistake |
| 13:10.44 | Wobin | I'd do it in my own guild |
| 13:10.52 | Wobin | but my GM is OCD and anal retentive |
| 13:10.58 | Polarina | "This is the place for devs to help each other out on-line, bounce ideas off each other, help out with testing mods, etc. All those things that drive your regular guildies crazy!" |
| 13:10.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:11.04 | Wobin | and if the bank isn't precisely how he likes it he goes apeshit =P |
| 13:11.23 | nevcairiel | so, write MrPlow to sort it like he wants it |
| 13:11.23 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:11.30 | Wobin | ew |
| 13:11.43 | Wobin | unfortunately, the guildbank increments slots down |
| 13:11.46 | Wobin | rather than across |
| 13:12.00 | Wobin | and he sub-sections the bank for certain items |
| 13:12.10 | Wobin | so it's all... unfixable from a plow perspective |
| 13:12.28 | Xinhuan | cos guild bank slots should be organised more visually than |
| 13:12.34 | Xinhuan | from a number index point of view |
| 13:12.39 | Wobin | well |
| 13:12.46 | Wobin | if they indexed across the screen |
| 13:12.48 | Wobin | rather than down |
| 13:12.50 | Wobin | it'd make that easier |
| 13:12.56 | Xinhuan | you could always have a index mapping |
| 13:13.04 | Xinhuan | not difficult to implement |
| 13:13.06 | Ellipsis | can't you do math to pretend it's indexed across? |
| 13:13.12 | Wobin | I could... |
| 13:13.18 | Wobin | but I want to get it working first =) |
| 13:13.29 | Wobin | since the lack of CursorHasItem is giving me the shits |
| 13:13.37 | Polarina | Hmm... Should I run around crasy and request signatures from unknown players to get the guild created? |
| 13:13.44 | Wobin | Polarina: sure |
| 13:13.51 | Ellipsis | honestly, I haven't even looked at my guild's bank yet...I'm afraid of it |
| 13:13.52 | Wobin | offer a gold or something per signature |
| 13:14.04 | Wobin | in goldshire |
| 13:14.12 | Ellipsis | I'd get all OCD and start ranting at the officers to straighten it up >_> |
| 13:14.20 | Polarina | Wobin: lol |
| 13:14.22 | Gagorian | Is it still possible to increase weapon skill over the cap or is that all gone instead of expertise? |
| 13:14.23 | Xinhuan | i still don't really see the benefits of a developer guild over say this IRC channel |
| 13:14.42 | Polarina | Xinhuan: To avoid the ALT+TAB-ing |
| 13:14.44 | Ellipsis | maybe easier to test things quickly |
| 13:14.45 | Wobin | Gagorian: it's still there for some weapons I think |
| 13:14.48 | Ellipsis | but other than that, yeah, not so much |
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| 13:16.44 | Wobin | Gagorian: hm, or maybe not |
| 13:16.59 | Wobin | seems it's all converted to expertise |
| 13:17.22 | Tornhoof | windowed modus ;) |
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| 13:17.29 | Xinhuan | considering its easier to share code via pastey or SVN than anything ingame, i'll say IRC > guild ;p |
| 13:17.31 | Tornhoof | i stopped playing full screen a long time ago |
| 13:18.08 | Xinhuan | plus real coders turn their monitors so its "vertical" :P |
| 13:18.12 | Fisker- | o shi- |
| 13:18.20 | Xinhuan | 1024x1280 instead of 1280x1024! |
| 13:18.22 | Fisker- | you know that it's a good game when you forget your WoW raid :( |
| 13:18.40 | Ellipsis | owned |
| 13:18.47 | Ellipsis | nolewts4u |
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| 13:20.41 | Fisker- | i got in of course |
| 13:20.53 | Fisker- | i'm 1337 like that |
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| 13:22.30 | Gagorian | Wobin: Alright. Thanks. |
| 13:22.37 | Gagorian | Will have to redo some hit calculation stuff then |
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| 13:33.35 | Orionshock | bElfs ... fking cheerleaders |
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| 13:36.44 | Pkekyo | The ship of fail floats on a sea of excuses. |
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| 13:42.59 | Tornhoof | hm any paladin around? |
| 13:43.08 | Ellipsis | lovely |
| 13:43.22 | Ellipsis | click Summon Dreadsteed while mounted on my dreadsteed = dismount |
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| 13:43.38 | Ellipsis | /cast Summon Dreadtseed while mounted on my dreadsteed = dismount and start casting Summon Dreadsteed |
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| 13:43.57 | Ellipsis | s/Dreadtseed/Dreadsteed |
| 13:44.05 | nevcairiel | ya thats one of the changes in 2.3 |
| 13:44.08 | nevcairiel | its intended |
| 13:44.24 | Ellipsis | yeah well it works differently for mount spells than mount items |
| 13:44.33 | Ellipsis | which screws up my mount macro unfixably |
| 13:44.43 | Ellipsis | so I can't dismount from my dreadsteed while moving |
| 13:44.44 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 13:44.54 | nevcairiel | use cancelbuff |
| 13:44.56 | nevcairiel | or so :P |
| 13:45.33 | Ellipsis | I don't have room |
| 13:45.55 | Ellipsis | the nice thing about /cast Summon Dreadsteed is that it worked like a toggle before |
| 13:46.07 | Ellipsis | if I was mounted it dismounted me, if I wasn't it started the cast |
| 13:46.24 | Ellipsis | and as a bonus, if I cast it while mounted on a different mount, it dismounted me *and* started the cast |
| 13:46.26 | Gngsk | can't fit /cancelaura Dreadsteed before the /cast ? |
| 13:46.29 | Ellipsis | which is pretty much ideal behavior |
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| 13:46.43 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: no, because I have a bunch of modifiers for it |
| 13:47.11 | Gngsk | ever heard of an addon called macrotexter? |
| 13:47.28 | Ellipsis | it would be like /cancelaura [mounted, noflyable] Summon Dreadsteed and that's really long |
| 13:47.42 | Ellipsis | er, yes, but I don't like it |
| 13:47.56 | Ellipsis | I wish they'd just stop screwing with the details of /cast |
| 13:48.08 | Gngsk | couldn't you like, basically do what it does to lengthen the macro |
| 13:48.22 | Gngsk | not sure about the details though tbh, but it seems like you should be able to get around the 255 limit |
| 13:48.39 | Ellipsis | it's possible to get around the limit |
| 13:48.51 | Ellipsis | but it would take a lot more effort than I really want to put into it right now |
| 13:49.02 | Ellipsis | I'd rather just rant and then spend 20 minutes fine-tuning my macro |
| 13:49.04 | Gngsk | especially when it was working so nicely in 2.2 |
| 13:49.10 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 13:50.06 | Gngsk | anyone have any idea why manufac is busted on files? |
| 13:50.26 | Gngsk | not the addon, but the zip creation. seems to have stopped |
| 13:50.50 | Ellipsis | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt |
| 13:50.53 | Ellipsis | someone failed at externals |
| 13:51.08 | nevcairiel | those errors have been in there for like ever now |
| 13:51.14 | Ellipsis | no, the manufac one is new |
| 13:51.16 | Gngsk | only a few hours |
| 13:51.19 | nevcairiel | oh the one in manufac is now |
| 13:51.21 | nevcairiel | *new |
| 13:51.22 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:51.26 | Gngsk | plz to fix it? |
| 13:51.27 | Gngsk | nymbia failed |
| 13:53.20 | Ellipsis | hmm...anyone know exactly *how* broken the full AH scan is? |
| 13:54.03 | cryogen | what i heard is that it randomly disconnects you |
| 13:54.08 | Ellipsis | oh, is that all |
| 13:54.19 | Orionshock | works fine for me |
| 13:54.22 | Ellipsis | are there any addons using it or are they avoiding it until the fix? |
| 13:54.29 | Orionshock | don't know what ya'll are bitching bout |
| 13:54.39 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: probably works better on smaller servers |
| 13:54.40 | Fisker- | the full ah scan is disabled |
| 13:54.50 | Ellipsis | it is? |
| 13:54.54 | Orionshock | on Nagrand, Ocheanic |
| 13:55.15 | Fisker- | yes |
| 13:55.21 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 13:55.39 | Fisker- | it was disabled because clients couldn't handle it! |
| 13:55.44 | Fisker- | awesome Q&A on blizzard's part |
| 13:55.51 | Pkekyo | does AMD have any quad-core CPUs yet? |
| 13:55.53 | cryogen | heh |
| 13:55.56 | Ellipsis | why does Blizzard have to be so...Blizzard |
| 13:55.57 | Fisker- | nope Pkekyo |
| 13:56.02 | Fisker- | they're coming with a 3-core one though |
| 13:56.16 | Pkekyo | name of it? |
| 13:56.20 | Fisker- | gets kind of old when issues that exists from the very first ptr build also exists when it goes live |
| 13:56.21 | Fisker- | Phenom |
| 13:57.49 | Xuerian | Isn't that their new attempt at a hybrid cpu? |
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| 13:58.42 | Gnarfoz | no that's the 4- and 3-core cpu |
| 14:00.18 | Pkekyo | would you say it's worth it upgrading from 2 to 4GB ram? |
| 14:00.28 | Pkekyo | how much would I benefit from it? |
| 14:00.42 | Gnarfoz | likely "just a bit" |
| 14:00.54 | Gnarfoz | check out how many times you actually reach your 2gb now |
| 14:01.05 | dezzi | only if you plan on quad boxing or something like that |
| 14:01.14 | dezzi | each instance of wow takes up anywhere from 400-600mb of ram |
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| 14:01.54 | CIA-4 | 03rabbit * r55287 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Only show the description for red slots on paper doll items and not bag/action bar items. |
| 14:01.54 | Gnarfoz | oh it can take quite a bit more, but still, 2GB should accomodate it fine |
| 14:02.49 | dezzi | meh you're right |
| 14:03.01 | dezzi | I'm @620mb and I'm just in SMV by myself |
| 14:04.26 | dezzi | eh heh |
| 14:04.31 | dezzi | about 20mb of that was recount data |
| 14:07.05 | Orionshock | is there a default options table for Ace3 / Ace3DB? |
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| 14:08.12 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: you can pass it to the New call for a db |
| 14:08.33 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.47 | Orionshock | i mean like Enable/Disable, switch profile ect |
| 14:08.50 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 14:08.58 | Orionshock | like where used to seeing in fubar plugins |
| 14:09.01 | [Ammo] | no |
| 14:09.28 | Lukian | whoa capping just screwed up |
| 14:09.33 | Lukian | it's saying farm instead of GM |
| 14:11.04 | Orionshock | urg...now im gonna have to build that table myself... |
| 14:11.15 | Orionshock | would be nice for yall to pout it in |
| 14:11.36 | Orionshock | *put |
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| 14:12.35 | Orionshock | like with RegisterOptionsTable in the AceConfig --- just feed in a default options table at the root of the object for the basics |
| 14:12.41 | Nimbal | Morning everyone. Does anyone know by chance if I can tell CandyBar to leave the bar on screen when it reaches zero? |
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| 14:15.39 | Ellipsis | http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar-2.0#.C2.A0:SetCandyBarFade.28name.2C_time.29 |
| 14:16.12 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r55288 10Mapster/Mapster.lua: Mapster: allow modules |
| 14:16.34 | Orionshock | but tbh - i'd like to see some understanding between the camps that with out fubar ace3 doesn't look too appealing, people are too used to fubar.... so if the ace3 options table could play nicely with dewdrop or vise versa... it would imho be good. |
| 14:17.33 | Ellipsis | Ace3 addons can still work with FuBar |
| 14:18.00 | Orionshock | but the tables arn't comatable at first glance. |
| 14:18.11 | Orionshock | *compatible |
| 14:18.14 | Ellipsis | compatible with what? |
| 14:18.55 | Nimbal | Ah, thanks, Ellipsis |
| 14:19.30 | Orionshock | tbh i haven't done much experimenting or code reading with regards to the config stuff, but it dosn't look like you'd be able to feed dewdrop an ace3 options table. |
| 14:19.51 | Ellipsis | so what you're asking for is an update to dewdrop to support ace3 options tables? |
| 14:20.01 | Orionshock | in a way |
| 14:20.02 | Ellipsis | that seems likely to happen when ace3 becomes more stable |
| 14:20.10 | Ellipsis | but what does that have to do with fubar? |
| 14:20.15 | Fisker- | mapster hoho [Ammo] |
| 14:20.20 | Fisker- | i see what you did there |
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| 14:20.44 | Fisker- | wut |
| 14:20.44 | Fisker- | i'm blind |
| 14:20.44 | Xinhuan | Mapster? |
| 14:20.45 | Fisker- | i see what you did thar Funkeh` |
| 14:20.45 | Orionshock | fubar has become a central point for getting access to an addons config methods |
| 14:21.08 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: the current fubarplugin doesn't use dewdrop |
| 14:21.16 | Ellipsis | so dewdrop changes aren't related |
| 14:21.24 | Orionshock | i know that i certainly don't like memorizing half a billion slash commands to get to a gui screen |
| 14:21.39 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: and actually it does support dewdrop |
| 14:21.41 | Knaledge | talking about rock vs dewdrop? |
| 14:22.06 | Ellipsis | Orionshock, read what I said again. the current fubarplugin doesn't *use* dewdrop |
| 14:22.07 | Knaledge | Xinhuan: you here? |
| 14:22.10 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:22.22 | Ellipsis | if an author wants to add a dewdrop menu to their addon, they can include the lib and feed whatever tables they want to it |
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| 14:22.29 | Ellipsis | it still has nothing to do with fubar |
| 14:22.31 | Knaledge | What are the chances of getting support for including guild banks in bankitems? Or at the very least |
| 14:22.38 | Knaledge | the money currently available in a bank |
| 14:22.52 | Orionshock | >>**fubar has become a central point for getting access to an addons config methods |
| 14:23.00 | Knaledge | Is there support for that from Blizzard as far as capability? |
| 14:23.00 | Xinhuan | its coming soon Knaledge |
| 14:23.08 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: you're confusing fubar with dewdrop |
| 14:23.15 | Xinhuan | the problem is accessibility and storage, and display |
| 14:23.24 | Xinhuan | how do you think i should implement the display? |
| 14:23.36 | Knaledge | Hrm... |
| 14:23.49 | Lukian | Xinhuan, use Sanity :p |
| 14:23.50 | Lukian | hehe |
| 14:23.50 | Xinhuan | see, if i have 2 alts in the same guild as my main, they all share the same guildbank - so ideally, the addon should only store 1 copy of the same guild's gbank data |
| 14:23.51 | Orionshock | no im not -im well aware they are seperate, but who the hell wants to deal with rock config when their addon only uses 1 lib from it and the rest is based off ace3.... |
| 14:24.02 | Knaledge | Well yeah |
| 14:24.08 | Knaledge | but in my case |
| 14:24.10 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: like I just said, addon authors can include dewdrop and feed whatever they want into it |
| 14:24.10 | CIA-4 | 03celellach * r55289 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/Atlas1.10.3compat.lua TableRegister/loottables.en.lua): |
| 14:24.10 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:24.10 | CIA-4 | - Corrected the links for the Green Dragons, New Kara maps and Kara Entrance map. |
| 14:24.10 | CIA-4 | - Added the quest items also. |
| 14:24.12 | Xinhuan | nah Lukian, i have my own addon for storing/caching equipped/bag/bank data all the way back from 2004 ;p |
| 14:24.20 | Knaledge | my main is in a guild called We Know girls |
| 14:24.26 | Knaledge | but my bank alt has its own guild |
| 14:24.28 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: there are already addons that use dewdrop without fubar - great example: Minimalist |
| 14:24.35 | Fisker- | hey Ellipsis |
| 14:24.38 | Ellipsis | hey fishbot2 |
| 14:24.39 | Knaledge | so... I'd run into an issue of two banks |
| 14:24.43 | Fisker- | how long do you think your pathetic sorcery can hold me? |
| 14:24.45 | Xinhuan | so in the case of guildbanks, i have to store gbank data per GuildName|Server |
| 14:24.48 | Fisker- | you got owned |
| 14:24.56 | Fisker- | might as well call me fishbot2 though |
| 14:24.56 | Ellipsis | no fishbot2, I'm not double-tabbing your nick anymore |
| 14:24.58 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: i don't think your getting at my karom shot at others.... |
| 14:24.59 | Knaledge | Well you could take baby steps |
| 14:25.01 | Fisker- | also |
| 14:25.07 | Fisker- | pathetic sorcery, amount of time, etc. |
| 14:25.07 | Xinhuan | and it will have to be separately shown, etc |
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| 14:25.09 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 14:25.09 | CIA-4 | - Added the Kara buff books and 2 quest items to Kara |
| 14:25.12 | Fisker- | reclaim outland, illidan arrogant |
| 14:25.18 | Ellipsis | fishbot2: my sorcery isn't pathetic, it's demonic |
| 14:25.23 | Knaledge | Like for right now all I'd want is just "Hey how much money does my bank alts guild bank have?" |
| 14:25.29 | Xinhuan | i assume you're using the latest BankItems i upped on wowace? |
| 14:25.30 | Knaledge | So maybei n the tooltip show like... |
| 14:25.30 | Wobin | aren't the kara buff books randomly placed? |
| 14:25.33 | Xinhuan | rather than on incgamers |
| 14:25.35 | Knaledge | (Yeah) |
| 14:25.47 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: sorry, what the heck did you just say? |
| 14:25.52 | Fisker- | Wobin more like randomly spawned |
| 14:26.01 | Orionshock | never mind, it's late -- |
| 14:26.03 | Xinhuan | i've been mainly fixing WoWEquip, Postal, GemHelper and a few other addons so far |
| 14:26.15 | Xinhuan | plus i lead a guild and raids, so its busy :) |
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| 14:26.28 | Knaledge | Haha no worries |
| 14:26.34 | Knaledge | I just thought we'd discuss how it could work, etc. |
| 14:26.54 | Knaledge | tbh? I don't know if you agree but BankItems interface might need to be redone |
| 14:26.59 | Knaledge | it's getting so... |
| 14:27.01 | Knaledge | busy |
| 14:27.20 | Xinhuan | it likely won't get changed, since the bank is unlikely to get changed until 3.0 |
| 14:27.37 | Knaledge | this is true |
| 14:28.14 | Knaledge | Well one thought could be implementing an animated frame like LightHeaded |
| 14:28.43 | Knaledge | utilize a "page flip" (page1 = personal bank of char, page2 = guild bank of selected char) |
| 14:28.58 | Knaledge | and upon page flip, you'd have the animated extension of the frame left to right |
| 14:29.05 | Xinhuan | don't think i have the energy to do that kind of stuff |
| 14:29.30 | Knaledge | Is there a way to smoothly implement another "page" for guild banks? |
| 14:29.50 | Knaledge | Honestly? you and I both know those requests are coming, if they haven't been made already |
| 14:29.55 | Knaledge | BUT |
| 14:30.12 | Xinhuan | no i haven't made them heh |
| 14:30.14 | Knaledge | Me personally? I'd think search support and money display would suffice until you get more time |
| 14:30.29 | Xinhuan | btw, i think i'm just adding a completely new frame for gbanks |
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| 14:30.51 | Knaledge | You could start big I suppose too, like that |
| 14:30.55 | Xinhuan | like /big (for /bi(guild)) to bring it up |
| 14:31.15 | Knaledge | How would you handle a case like mine? |
| 14:31.20 | Knaledge | My main is in one guild |
| 14:31.26 | Knaledge | bank alt is in another of its own |
| 14:31.30 | Xinhuan | a "guild" is like a character |
| 14:31.44 | Xinhuan | you have many "character"|"server" |
| 14:31.48 | Knaledge | So a drop down menu with guild name in it? |
| 14:31.49 | Health | Is there a new cancelstealth or something? |
| 14:31.50 | Xinhuan | same thing, you have many "guild"|"server" |
| 14:31.52 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:31.57 | Knaledge | cool cool |
| 14:32.21 | Knaledge | Now for that tooltip |
| 14:32.25 | Knaledge | that's going to get nasty. |
| 14:32.36 | Xinhuan | there will be inconsistencies in recording though, since not all your chars would necessarily have the same accesslevel |
| 14:33.08 | Knaledge | You could use a merge |
| 14:33.18 | Knaledge | because the bottom line is.. |
| 14:33.25 | Knaledge | if two chars exist in one guild, both with diff access |
| 14:33.34 | Knaledge | bottom line is - they can see what they want anyhow, regardless. |
| 14:33.35 | Xinhuan | what tooltip thing? |
| 14:33.51 | Polarina | Only one more signature... :P |
| 14:34.03 | Knaledge | Just involves a char switch... so mine as well allow BankItems to just store the whole contents of the bank as opposed to er char in the guild |
| 14:34.07 | Knaledge | follow? |
| 14:34.27 | Xinhuan | no |
| 14:34.28 | Knaledge | (tooltip for BI - not sure how it'd be best to display money, bag space, etc.) |
| 14:34.36 | Knaledge | Well ok - like.. |
| 14:34.45 | Knaledge | My main, Knaledge,, is in We Know Girls |
| 14:34.53 | Knaledge | I have limited access |
| 14:35.05 | Knaledge | another char of mine Velth has lots of access |
| 14:35.12 | Knaledge | Both chars on the same account |
| 14:35.29 | Knaledge | The bottom line is, mine as well show all the contents of the bank anyhow... |
| 14:35.44 | Knaledge | because on my end, all that would involve is switching a char to "see" what I couldn't "see" on my other char. |
| 14:35.54 | Knaledge | So there's nothing to hide/protect |
| 14:36.02 | Knaledge | So on your end |
| 14:36.11 | Xinhuan | so you're talking about a way to show everything on 2 chars at the same time? |
| 14:36.12 | Knaledge | all that involves is just making it treat the bank simply |
| 14:36.16 | Knaledge | sort of |
| 14:36.22 | Xinhuan | don't think i'll be doing that |
| 14:36.30 | Knaledge | like so on Knaledge, limited access - I can see only tab 1 |
| 14:36.35 | Knaledge | on Velth, I can see all tabs |
| 14:36.46 | Xinhuan | oh you mean gbanks |
| 14:36.48 | Knaledge | in the bankitems "image" of the bank - it only recorded Knaledge once |
| 14:36.49 | Xinhuan | ya that's easy |
| 14:36.58 | Knaledge | so only tab 1 was available through bankitems |
| 14:37.07 | Knaledge | but because one char on my account, Velth, had full access |
| 14:37.16 | Xinhuan | you would be able to see the recorded data on any char |
| 14:37.23 | Knaledge | now, for the entire bankitems interfacem my gbank can see all tabs for that guild |
| 14:37.25 | Xinhuan | the access level is irrelevant |
| 14:37.26 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 14:37.31 | Knaledge | exactly |
| 14:38.16 | Knaledge | and so what were you talking bout that I wasn't? hehe |
| 14:38.19 | Knaledge | the tooltip? |
| 14:42.14 | Xinhuan | nothing really |
| 14:44.31 | Knaledge | hehe alright |
| 14:45.01 | Knaledge | I think for the tooltip perhaps having split? |
| 14:45.08 | Pkekyo | running an ATI Radeon x1650 Pro now on a ASUS M2V mainboard....what graphics card should I upgrade to? (has to be compatible with my current mainboard) |
| 14:45.23 | Xinhuan | i dont' mess with tooltips |
| 14:45.41 | Knaledge | like a division in the tooltip one side or top/bottom showing what it usually shows, and then the other part showing per guildbank? |
| 14:45.44 | Polarina | Hurray! The EU Dev guild is formed. :D All who want a invite, just drop me a message. |
| 14:45.45 | FrostByghte | hey ckknight, if you get a bit of time few of us having issues with cowtip not hiding tips when entering combat :( |
| 14:45.46 | Knaledge | Even for BankItemsFu? |
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| 14:45.54 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 14:46.01 | Xinhuan | that one merely uses a tablet |
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| 14:47.49 | Knaledge | Pkekyo: nVidia 8800GT |
| 14:47.56 | Knaledge | or ATi 3870 |
| 14:48.09 | Knaledge | 512MB versions |
| 14:48.15 | Knaledge | each around $250 or less |
| 14:48.42 | Knaledge | both are the new "hotness" atm beating out higher priced cards 1:1 |
| 14:48.50 | Xinhuan | zzzz AB daily BG |
| 14:48.56 | Xinhuan | whats the chances of winning an AB on alliance?? |
| 14:49.12 | Knaledge | 1 in infinity |
| 14:49.14 | Lukian | 50% is the average, but you can get like really bad streaks |
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| 14:50.18 | Knaledge | Is there any way to print a list of SVN directories currently being used in a script? |
| 14:50.22 | Knaledge | er... hrm how to word that |
| 14:50.34 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 14:50.44 | Knaledge | I've installed another copy of WoW... and I update directly via SVN for all addons |
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| 14:51.01 | Ellipsis | if you copy your addons dir over, the svn info will be in it |
| 14:51.19 | Knaledge | however, to initially retrieve the addons... I have to make a script or maintain a script that basically. I need to keep adding every little addon I add myself or update otherwise.. |
| 14:51.34 | Knaledge | ellipsis: oh... |
| 14:51.37 | Knaledge | lol really? |
| 14:51.45 | Ellipsis | what did you think those .svn dirs were for, decoration? :P |
| 14:51.50 | Knaledge | haha |
| 14:51.54 | Knaledge | even if the directory is changing? |
| 14:52.07 | Knaledge | instead of World of Warcraft it's now.. |
| 14:52.14 | Knaledge | World of Warcraft Nathan ? |
| 14:52.30 | Ellipsis | yes, the .svn dirs contained inside each addon's folder will still contain the svn meta info |
| 14:52.31 | Xinhuan | that's irrelevant, the .svn folder stores server side data |
| 14:52.31 | break19 | Knaledge: the dirs dont do full-path resolution |
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| 14:52.41 | Xinhuan | of the current folder |
| 14:52.46 | Knaledge | ah nice |
| 14:53.05 | Knaledge | so this is not necessary... |
| 14:53.05 | break19 | you can move the parent folder to anywhere you want, it'll be just fine |
| 14:53.08 | Knaledge | hrm, awesome :) |
| 14:53.23 | Knaledge | and I just update the . update script... to point to the new directory, yea? |
| 14:53.27 | break19 | correct |
| 14:53.34 | Knaledge | wow thats easy |
| 14:53.38 | Knaledge | sweet |
| 14:53.41 | Knaledge | thanks all :) |
| 14:54.16 | break19 | i know, since I did svn updates for a while, and moved the folders outta my wow installation so i wouldnt update the files directly, but instead would keep an svn dir -and- addon dir, and then simply export to the addon dir.. but either way works |
| 14:54.43 | Knaledge | yeah I was doing that originally but it just added too much fluff time for my tastes |
| 14:54.51 | Knaledge | the only question I've had for a while though |
| 14:55.06 | Knaledge | it looks like this SVN vlient I have CAN delete stuff ... I see verbose messages stating... |
| 14:55.24 | Knaledge | "D Atlas\bla\bla\some_dungeon_map.blp" |
| 14:55.28 | break19 | I've just decided svn is way too slow for my tastes and just use a .zip updater :p |
| 14:55.30 | Knaledge | that means.. D = Delete right? |
| 14:55.36 | break19 | yes |
| 14:55.42 | Knaledge | ok cool so.. |
| 14:55.50 | break19 | basically, the author decided the file was fluff and removed it from the svn |
| 14:55.55 | Knaledge | well how does this work with updating then? |
| 14:56.07 | Knaledge | all I've ever been used to is... |
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| 14:56.08 | break19 | if its deleted from the server, its deleted locally |
| 14:56.12 | break19 | no issues |
| 14:56.14 | Knaledge | hey if you update an addon, delete the folder first |
| 14:56.25 | Knaledge | but with SVN, theres hardly any deleting |
| 14:56.29 | break19 | Knaledge: if you update with svn you dont need to |
| 14:56.36 | Knaledge | this is OK because SVN is like... checksums against files? |
| 14:56.48 | break19 | the reason they say "delete the folder" is for the few examples just like the one you mentioned |
| 14:56.57 | Ellipsis | why are you updating with svn if you don't know how it works? |
| 14:57.12 | Arrowmaster | lol my bank alt is now the guild master of <Banker> |
| 14:57.26 | break19 | the author removed a file, merged code into another file etc, if you didnt delete, and simply extracted the zip, you'd have extra, unused files lyin around |
| 14:57.29 | Knaledge | I'm asking the questions so I'll know for future reference. |
| 14:57.40 | Ellipsis | that doesn't answer my question... |
| 14:57.43 | Knaledge | I'll continue updating via SVN, thanks :) |
| 14:57.45 | break19 | but with SVN, that's taken care of |
| 14:57.48 | Ellipsis | downloading from the files page or using an updater is enough for most users |
| 14:57.49 | Knaledge | and you can't stop me! muaahahhahaha |
| 14:57.58 | Knaledge | Well - not for me. |
| 14:58.27 | Ellipsis | is there some specific reason? |
| 14:58.35 | Knaledge | I'm on a Mac |
| 14:58.38 | Ellipsis | and? |
| 14:58.38 | break19 | Ellipsis: maybe he's on a 300 baud modem? in which case it'd be faster downloading only changes.. |
| 14:58.50 | Ellipsis | break19: WoW would suck then... |
| 14:58.52 | Knaledge | You don't use a Mac do you? |
| 14:58.56 | break19 | Knaledge: I do |
| 14:59.02 | break19 | and I dont use svn updates anymore |
| 14:59.05 | Ellipsis | Knaledge: lots of people use macs, why does that affect downloading addons? |
| 14:59.06 | Knaledge | Then you'd know how shitty the updates are |
| 14:59.15 | Knaledge | *updaters |
| 14:59.20 | Ellipsis | there's plenty of multiplatform updaters that work great |
| 14:59.24 | break19 | jwow is awesome, as is WUU |
| 14:59.32 | Knaledge | WUU isn't actually |
| 14:59.35 | ag` | terminal: svn update * |
| 14:59.39 | Knaledge | Thats exactly why I stopped using it |
| 14:59.40 | ag` | :o |
| 14:59.54 | break19 | never had any trouble with WUU that wasnt fixed as soon as the author knows about it |
| 15:00.13 | Knaledge | Well - I don't care for waiting on authors fixing programs that fix other addons |
| 15:00.18 | Knaledge | I wanted direct updates |
| 15:00.20 | Knaledge | now I've got that |
| 15:00.33 | Knaledge | and I never have to worry about some OSX or cocoa patch fucking with an addon updater |
| 15:00.42 | Knaledge | or Java SUCKING ASSHOLE on OSX. |
| 15:00.48 | break19 | what? what the hell you talkin about.. WUU isnt java |
| 15:00.48 | Ellipsis | now you just have to figure out how svn works |
| 15:00.49 | Knaledge | Because let's be honest - it does. |
| 15:01.05 | Ellipsis | way easier than using a program designed to be easy to use |
| 15:01.19 | Knaledge | I've got good scripts |
| 15:01.22 | ag` | My problem with wow on MacOS that I get double fps when I bootcamp/Windows (8600GTm) |
| 15:01.30 | Knaledge | I just wanted to know something about how it worked - no big deal. |
| 15:01.34 | break19 | ag: quit teasing. |
| 15:01.44 | break19 | I'm on a G4 :/ |
| 15:01.51 | Knaledge | ag: You can also just use nvidiaEFI |
| 15:01.55 | Knaledge | or natit |
| 15:02.09 | Knaledge | I use a 8800GT on OSX |
| 15:02.10 | ag` | Knaledge, it's a real mac |
| 15:02.21 | Knaledge | YEah... I have a Mac Pro. |
| 15:02.22 | Lukian | ag`, wow sad :/ |
| 15:02.27 | ag` | and my point is that the nvidia drivers suck |
| 15:02.38 | Knaledge | Yeah I hate playing wow in OSX at 100FPS in shat |
| 15:02.39 | ag` | nvidiaEFI/natit won't fix that |
| 15:02.56 | Knaledge | it does if you use...the...open..source... drivers...??? |
| 15:03.08 | Knaledge | oh wait thats what everyone does that bothers with those |
| 15:03.42 | Knaledge | you might be basing your judgement off of very old info |
| 15:03.52 | Knaledge | there was a recent fireflash of progress |
| 15:04.05 | ag` | Mmm, so you're saying someone coded open source drivers for nvidia cards (which noone got specs for) which works faster than the drivers Apple provides for my Macbook Pro? |
| 15:04.15 | Knaledge | Yep pretty much |
| 15:04.19 | break19 | ag: yea.. I believe thats what he said |
| 15:04.28 | Knaledge | Because all it was was just enabling flags on the card |
| 15:04.33 | Knaledge | and porting over the drivers |
| 15:04.44 | Knaledge | There are smart people in the world that know how to do such things |
| 15:04.53 | Knaledge | Let me get you a link. |
| 15:05.58 | ag` | the natit/macvidia stuff is based on Apple's on drivers |
| 15:06.10 | ag` | that won't make the drivers suck less compared to the windows drivers |
| 15:06.10 | break19 | ag: what he's trying to say is: the only difference between the mac version and the pc version of the card is efi support, the other stuff is all pretty much the same across all nvidia cards, and all ati cards.. hence why windows people have "all-in-one" driver downloads. |
| 15:06.20 | ag` | that's not what I'm talking about |
| 15:06.37 | break19 | and the linux people have been writing opensource nv and ati drivers for years now |
| 15:07.03 | ag` | 3d rendering on less than 3 year old cards |
| 15:07.20 | Knaledge | NVidia.8x00.Installer.V3.mpkg |
| 15:07.21 | Knaledge | google |
| 15:07.25 | Knaledge | all done |
| 15:07.43 | Knaledge | you're welcome. |
| 15:07.54 | ag` | I'm saying that with any given nvidia card (or perhaps only 8xxx series) the performance in MacOS is perhaps 30% worse than for Windows, same computer same card, real mac hardware, 8600GTm |
| 15:08.15 | Knaledge | That's Blizzard not the card. |
| 15:08.17 | Knaledge | or Apple. |
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| 15:08.28 | Knaledge | There's a massive discusson on both apple and blizzard forums |
| 15:08.28 | FrostByghte | hey ckknight, if you get a bit of time few of us having issues with cowtip not hiding tips when entering combat :( |
| 15:08.40 | Knaledge | In fact, if you updated to 2.2 on Leopard |
| 15:08.50 | Knaledge | you'd have noticed about a 20% decrease in FPS in WoW |
| 15:08.58 | Knaledge | thanks to the new OpenGL implementation |
| 15:09.02 | ag` | you mean 2.3? |
| 15:09.07 | Knaledge | no |
| 15:09.09 | Knaledge | 2.2 |
| 15:09.18 | Knaledge | which implemented the newer OpenGL routines |
| 15:09.33 | ag` | ok |
| 15:09.48 | Knaledge | anyhow... |
| 15:09.59 | Knaledge | back to enjoying full CE/QI support |
| 15:10.26 | Xinhuan | i think you're the only person i know that ever runs wow in opengl |
| 15:10.30 | Xinhuan | nvm he left |
| 15:11.56 | Lukian | I run wow in OpenGL under wine |
| 15:12.06 | break19 | Xinhuan: how many mac users you know.. since macs dont do directx ALL mac users HAVE to run in opengl |
| 15:12.25 | Xinhuan | 1 - knaledge |
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| 15:13.01 | Xinhuan | in my country, macs has like 0% market foothold |
| 15:13.04 | Xinhuan | (Singapore) |
| 15:13.18 | Xinhuan | some mac laptops sell, but that's about it |
| 15:13.38 | ag` | It's not big in Denmark either, but it's growing, and I see a lot of other students with one too |
| 15:13.48 | Xinhuan | the mac laptops only sell due to the price |
| 15:14.02 | Xinhuan | but few buy those and definitely anyone buying a mac desktop is asking for trouble |
| 15:14.21 | ag` | trouble? :P |
| 15:14.42 | Xinhuan | there's almost like no support for them |
| 15:14.47 | Xinhuan | locally |
| 15:14.51 | Xinhuan | since they don't sell |
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| 15:19.42 | break19 | hell.. I live in a city of 200k in Alabama, USA, and even -we- have an apple store with regular customers.. :p |
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| 15:23.43 | Pkekyo | knaledge still around? |
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| 15:24.13 | Pkekyo | would XFX GeForce 8800GTS 500M 640MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, 2xDVI/HDTV/HDCP, 320-bit be a sufficient upgrade for ATI Radeon x1650 Pro? |
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| 15:24.39 | Silviu- | lol Pkekyo :) |
| 15:24.47 | Pkekyo | meh, just realized the price is 4k :p |
| 15:24.58 | Silviu- | Buy 8800 GT or wait for the new 8800 GTS with 512 MB |
| 15:25.10 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: just get the 8800gts 320 version:) it's quite nice :) |
| 15:25.59 | Silviu- | 8800 GT is better then GTS |
| 15:26.01 | Silviu- | :) |
| 15:26.04 | Pkekyo | what's the difference between GT and GTS? |
| 15:26.05 | Silviu- | And a little more cheaper |
| 15:26.10 | Silviu- | GT is new |
| 15:26.24 | Silviu- | Have 512 MB and more clocked |
| 15:26.30 | Silviu- | And price is cheaper |
| 15:27.03 | Silviu- | 02(Video controller 102) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS (Processor: GeForce 8800 GTS), 320MB, 1440x900x32, 74Hz, driver version: 7.15.11.6375 |
| 15:27.11 | Pkekyo | meh, the GTs are still at 2k :< |
| 15:27.19 | Silviu- | But i`m a little sad i did not wait for this new GT version |
| 15:27.19 | Silviu- | :) |
| 15:27.31 | Pkekyo | and I can't afford to spend 2k on a graphics card |
| 15:27.41 | Silviu- | Then get 8600 |
| 15:27.42 | Silviu- | :) |
| 15:28.20 | Silviu- | Or Ati 3850 / 3870 |
| 15:28.32 | Pkekyo | 2k is more than I spent on my current CPU and Graphics card combined >.< |
| 15:28.40 | Silviu- | :P |
| 15:28.45 | Silviu- | 2k ? |
| 15:28.51 | Silviu- | 2000 dolars ? |
| 15:28.54 | Pkekyo | NOK |
| 15:29.43 | Pkekyo | almost 400USD |
| 15:30.04 | Silviu- | hmm |
| 15:30.13 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 15:30.16 | Silviu- | something like that |
| 15:30.20 | break19 | i need a new compie |
| 15:30.50 | Silviu- | Mac is nice but i want to have posibilities to upgrade |
| 15:30.54 | harldephin | was there an ace add-on called Karma? |
| 15:31.02 | break19 | Silviu-: me too, thats why I said mac pro |
| 15:31.08 | Silviu- | And, on mac it comes with a noob Ati card |
| 15:31.12 | Silviu- | I can`t change that :) |
| 15:31.34 | Silviu- | Oh i thought u wanted an Imac :) |
| 15:31.38 | break19 | then you suck, since you dont even need a screwdriver to get into a mac pro and remove the video card :p |
| 15:31.55 | Silviu- | on imac u need :P |
| 15:32.09 | Silviu- | and u void the guaranty :) |
| 15:32.13 | break19 | yea, but who buys an imac for gaming? |
| 15:32.22 | harldephin | none? |
| 15:32.27 | break19 | exactly |
| 15:32.33 | Pkekyo | meh, the 512MB 8600s are still up on 1k |
| 15:32.47 | break19 | imac = cheap little graphic workstation |
| 15:33.08 | break19 | mac pro = zomg |
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| 15:34.12 | break19 | of course, even an imac is better than what I got right now :p |
| 15:34.31 | break19 | ibook g4, late 2005 model... |
| 15:34.57 | harldephin | dunno. i'm still running with two 7950 GT and didn't have the need for another upgrade yet. |
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| 15:36.03 | xerawx | i love my 12" powerbook.. still using it right now to keep irssi alive but i looked at the current lineup of macs and the only real option for me seemed to be build a c2q for half what i'd pay for the cheapest mac pro |
| 15:36.12 | Pkekyo | rofl, my current graphics card is down at 0.4k now |
| 15:36.13 | break19 | harldephin: radeon mobility 8550 32M graphics card :/ |
| 15:36.36 | harldephin | break19: *cough* |
| 15:37.48 | xerawx | unless you want to be locked in to the apple sanctioned apps and games OS X can be pretty limiting |
| 15:38.15 | xerawx | and if you're dual booting to xp it begs the question wtf are you paying twice as much for the box for |
| 15:38.45 | xerawx | i mean you can even boot OS X on a home built pc now, assuming you don't mind "bending" the rules a bit |
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| 15:40.29 | break19 | xerawx: uhh.. google: cider |
| 15:41.05 | break19 | here, lemme do it for ya |
| 15:41.06 | xerawx | yea i know of cider |
| 15:41.07 | break19 | http://www.transgaming.com/products/cider/ |
| 15:41.22 | xerawx | you can run wow on linux too |
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| 15:41.26 | xerawx | whoopdeedoo |
| 15:41.53 | xerawx | games were always the least annoying thing to reboot for though |
| 15:42.30 | xerawx | and cider it still a workaround |
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| 15:43.38 | baer_ | moin. |
| 15:43.55 | RaydenUnic | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2331381008387248940 |
| 15:44.03 | RaydenUnic | someone linked that last night but i can't get over it |
| 15:44.27 | Silviu- | ~seen Nimbal |
| 15:44.36 | purl | nimbal <n=chatzill@p5488C544.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 25m 41s ago, saying: 'Ah, thanks, Ellipsis'. |
| 15:45.23 | Silviu- | :)) |
| 15:45.26 | Silviu- | u did ! |
| 15:45.35 | Ellipsis | YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING! |
| 15:45.47 | Silviu- | I can and i will |
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| 15:45.54 | Silviu- | Prisson is waiting |
| 15:46.07 | baer_ | how do you "decurse" with grid? |
| 15:46.16 | Ellipsis | get clique |
| 15:46.23 | baer_ | is there some one-click-mechanism as in decursive? |
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| 15:48.20 | xerawx | not like oldschool one-brain-cell decursive if thats what you mean |
| 15:48.41 | xerawx | but you can click a frame in grid and decurse that person |
| 15:48.44 | baer_ | no, i mean more like decursive with some mini-unit-frames. |
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| 15:49.22 | baer_ | does that work out of the box? or did i screw the configuration already? :) |
| 15:49.51 | xerawx | it's not part of Grid itself, its a seperate addon called Clique |
| 15:50.06 | baer_ | ah, ok. |
| 15:50.16 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r55296 10Mapster/Coords.lua: Mapster: Coords: tweak |
| 15:50.24 | xerawx | and you can assign any spells to any mouse click or mod+click |
| 15:50.45 | xerawx | and have seperate behaviour for friendly/hostile/ooc |
| 15:50.54 | CIA-4 | 03elkano * r55297 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.toc: |
| 15:50.54 | CIA-4 | ElkBuffBars |
| 15:50.54 | CIA-4 | - pushing version to 2.1 for release |
| 15:50.57 | baer_ | is Clique an ace2-based addon? |
| 15:51.10 | Ellipsis | no |
| 15:51.22 | baer_ | so, anyone got an download url for this one? |
| 15:51.31 | baer_ | can't find it on curse either. |
| 15:51.41 | CIA-4 | 03ammo 07Beta * r55298 10Ace3/ (AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua docs/AceAddon-3.0.txt): Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0: add module enabling disabling functionality |
| 15:52.03 | Ellipsis | it's on wowinterface |
| 15:52.10 | baer_ | neither on wowui |
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| 15:53.09 | baer_ | other thing is, can i use grid for normal parties ( != raids) ? |
| 15:53.41 | Ellipsis | you can, but it won't hide the default blizz party frames for you |
| 15:53.55 | kenlyric | you can use grid solo. |
| 15:54.14 | baer_ | great, how do i do this? |
| 15:54.15 | kenlyric | which I do in fact, since my dispel abilities are bound to it. |
| 15:54.49 | kenlyric | there's an option when to show grid. |
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| 15:57.28 | baer_ | grid got really a few tons of options. :) |
| 15:57.58 | kenlyric | I seem to remember that option being easy to be find, but it's been months since I set it. |
| 15:58.56 | baer_ | yup, hidden in "Layout". :) |
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| 15:59.39 | kenlyric | yeah, grid options could use a club. Two different submenus to define what the border dots do. |
| 16:00.17 | Ellipsis | so is it pretty much impossible to do the netherwing rep grind without an epic flyer? |
| 16:00.30 | Ellipsis | (assuming you've bought the training but not the mount, that is) |
| 16:00.42 | kenlyric | no. |
| 16:00.50 | kenlyric | most of the stuff doesn't require flying. |
| 16:00.57 | Ellipsis | really? :D |
| 16:01.17 | kenlyric | just the racing quests, and booterang would be annoying without epic flyer. |
| 16:01.30 | kenlyric | but netherwing relics don't require flying, and nothing in the cave. |
| 16:01.33 | *** join/#wowace Morodan (n=chatzill@116.88.0.25) |
| 16:01.41 | RaydenUnic | and doesn't netherwing give you an epic mount for your quests? |
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| 16:02.33 | kenlyric | does it turn epic? I dunno. I never met anyone strange enough to get that quest line without an epic mount. :) |
| 16:02.44 | Ellipsis | that's the point RaydenUnic |
| 16:02.55 | Ellipsis | doing the rep grind to get the free mount item |
| 16:03.14 | kebinusan | I wish I were horde, Ive been losing AV all morning |
| 16:03.16 | Nickenyfiken | Uhm you can't fly into the camp without a epic mount |
| 16:03.17 | Ellipsis | because it's cooler looking *and* cheaper than buying one XD |
| 16:03.19 | RaydenUnic | i thought they gave you one while you were grinding it though |
| 16:03.20 | Nickenyfiken | To get the quests |
| 16:03.24 | RaydenUnic | for specific quests |
| 16:03.39 | Ellipsis | Nickenyfiken: you only need the epic training to accept the quests, not an actual epic mount |
| 16:03.59 | RaydenUnic | Ellipsis i think you could argue againsst cheaper |
| 16:04.02 | kenlyric | you get a netherdrake as part of the disguise, but i didn't know if they gave you a fast one, or just disguised your mount. |
| 16:04.02 | Nickenyfiken | Uh well its the training that cost much, not the mount |
| 16:04.03 | grzesieq_ | do BGs suck as much on horde side? |
| 16:04.03 | RaydenUnic | how much does the mount cost? |
| 16:04.25 | baer_ | ok, pitbull does much of the hiding party frames for me. :) |
| 16:04.26 | kebinusan | hmm my bg map is bugged when it comes to reporting who controls what mine properly |
| 16:04.41 | grzesieq_ | kebinusan: been so since 2.3 |
| 16:04.42 | RaydenUnic | cause it seems like the increased income from your epic mount would make getting an epic before you get your netherwing worth it |
| 16:04.55 | Ellipsis | Nickenyfiken: yes, but if you run out of gold after buying the training, it's cheaper to get the netherwing mount... |
| 16:04.57 | kenlyric | you know, it occurs to me I should try using grid as my default player frame. |
| 16:05.07 | kenlyric | grid needs a setting to pull that frame out, like it does for tanks. |
| 16:05.28 | Morodan | after spending 5000g on epic training, I doubt you'd find it hard to come up with the 200 for the actual mount |
| 16:05.41 | Morodan | then with that mount, you grind netherwing rep |
| 16:05.43 | Ellipsis | I find it hard to come up with the 5000g |
| 16:05.52 | RaydenUnic | i have currently 94g |
| 16:05.58 | kenlyric | oh borrow it form a friend and pay them back in 3 days |
| 16:06.03 | kenlyric | *or |
| 16:06.15 | Ellipsis | I don't get income from having an epic flyer; I have no gathering professions |
| 16:06.17 | Lukian | borrowing works well, forces you to grind dailise ^^ |
| 16:06.23 | Ellipsis | it's cheaper to get a free item than a 200g one |
| 16:06.35 | kebinusan | or jsut never pay them back, either way it works out well depends on how much you value the friend |
| 16:06.37 | Morodan | I'm a mage with enchanting and tailoring, I dont get any extra income from my epic flyer=/ |
| 16:06.45 | RaydenUnic | yeah but how long does it take to get your netherwing? minimum of 14 days? |
| 16:06.53 | RaydenUnic | and it takes what to make 200g? 2-3 hours? |
| 16:06.55 | Ellipsis | way less, especially if you're lucky with eggs |
| 16:06.58 | Morodan | except for I can do all the daily quests about 200% faster |
| 16:07.05 | Nickenyfiken | Before you even get exalted with Netherwing you can buy 10 epic mounts from the money you earn |
| 16:07.20 | Morodan | I'm 4500g into my warrior's epic flyer, he has mining |
| 16:07.25 | Nickenyfiken | You get like 130g doing all dailys |
| 16:07.29 | Arrowmaster | i think i made 5000g the week 2.1 came out |
| 16:07.35 | RaydenUnic | i dropped enchanting to pick up mining on my spriest |
| 16:08.00 | Morodan | if you do some hardcore farming, its not hard to come up with 5k gold, I just choose not to and take longer |
| 16:08.21 | Ellipsis | I probably should start doing dailies |
| 16:08.37 | Arrowmaster | i made 5k the week 2.1 came out but i never farm anymore and slowly lose money |
| 16:08.38 | Ellipsis | it's just a pain since my quest log is already full and I don't really want to drop things temporarily |
| 16:08.59 | RaydenUnic | so do one of those quests |
| 16:09.04 | Ellipsis | they're all group quests |
| 16:09.14 | Ellipsis | like, real group quests, not the soloable kind |
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| 16:09.24 | Morodan | 25 group quests? |
| 16:09.41 | Ellipsis | pretty close, yeah |
| 16:09.54 | Morodan | I don't think there are that many 68+ group quests, you can solo the stuff below 65 |
| 16:10.09 | Arrowmaster | like 2.0 battle of crimson watch group quests? |
| 16:10.13 | Ellipsis | you can solo most of the 70 group quests too |
| 16:10.22 | Ellipsis | trust me, everything I have left is not soloable |
| 16:10.30 | Ellipsis | a lot of them are attunement or raid quests as well |
| 16:10.45 | Arrowmaster | waht attunements |
| 16:10.52 | Morodan | well yeah, the 3 trial of the naaru, hyjal attunement, etc |
| 16:10.58 | Ellipsis | the TK/SSC attunement chains |
| 16:11.09 | Arrowmaster | pff i soloed my hyjal attunement |
| 16:11.10 | Morodan | the obsolete attument chains |
| 16:11.21 | grzesieq_ | you get the silly title ;-) |
| 16:11.29 | Morodan | I can solo Hyjal |
| 16:11.34 | Morodan | with the help of 24 people |
| 16:11.54 | Ellipsis | plus I have 3 kara quests |
| 16:12.22 | Ellipsis | and then just random netherstorm/SMV group quests |
| 16:12.57 | Morodan | I finished all the netherstorm/SMV group quests, but I still have some non-group ones I'm just to lazy to do 0_o |
| 16:13.29 | Ellipsis | it's not terribly easy to find a group for Dimensius the All-Devouring and such |
| 16:13.39 | [Ammo] | hmm I still need that guy |
| 16:13.42 | Morodan | heh, I did them back when everyone just hit 70 |
| 16:13.43 | [Ammo] | but should be soloable |
| 16:13.50 | Morodan | you could find a group for anything |
| 16:14.02 | [Ammo] | or at least 2/3 man with T5/6 |
| 16:14.11 | RaydenUnic | but the only reason you have these groups quests is to make money right? |
| 16:14.15 | RaydenUnic | you aren't going to get gear from tehm |
| 16:14.23 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 16:14.23 | RaydenUnic | so it's worth dropping one to do dailies |
| 16:14.38 | Arrowmaster | Dimensius the All-Devouring is the easist fucking boss to solo |
| 16:14.40 | Ellipsis | RaydenUnic: that quest gives 25g + a LPS |
| 16:14.51 | RaydenUnic | wow |
| 16:14.57 | RaydenUnic | i didn't know quests gave shards |
| 16:15.04 | Ellipsis | well it gives one of 4 blue rewards I can't use |
| 16:15.08 | Ellipsis | which = a shard to me |
| 16:15.10 | RaydenUnic | oh |
| 16:15.19 | Morodan | lol speaking of 2/3 man, I was on my fury warrior. me, a pvp healadin and a druid 3 manned the first 4 pulls in SH, with me DPS tanking |
| 16:15.34 | Morodan | the druid needed like 50 more rep to hit revered |
| 16:15.47 | RaydenUnic | i've cleared some dungeons with 4 people |
| 16:15.48 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: go solo Dimensius the All-Devouring, stand at range and dps him, kill the adds when they pop and profit |
| 16:15.56 | Morodan | it was hardcore, we accidentlly pulled the entire first room at once and it was messy |
| 16:15.58 | RaydenUnic | almost cleared ramparts with 3, and then a 4th joined |
| 16:16.07 | Paradox_ | hey everyone I need some urgent help |
| 16:16.09 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: is that soloable now? it wasn't when I tried on my druid |
| 16:16.14 | Morodan | blade flurry + whirlwind ftw |
| 16:16.26 | Arrowmaster | i soloed in like 2.0 |
| 16:16.31 | Morodan | yes paradox_? |
| 16:16.31 | Ellipsis | Morodan: reg SH? :/ |
| 16:16.37 | Paradox_ | i'm getting really poor choppy FPS performance on archimonde, and it is spamming my chat with "interface action failed because of an addon |
| 16:16.39 | Morodan | yeah reg SH |
| 16:16.40 | Ellipsis | ezmode |
| 16:16.41 | Paradox_ | so I assume it's an addon problem |
| 16:16.45 | Paradox_ | any idea what it could be? |
| 16:16.48 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: where you trying to melee him on your druid? |
| 16:16.56 | Morodan | depends on which addons you have installed |
| 16:16.58 | Ellipsis | Paradox: enable taint logging and find out what's causing the problem |
| 16:17.03 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: lol no way |
| 16:17.10 | Ellipsis | I don't melee. ever. |
| 16:17.20 | Arrowmaster | ive seen healers solo it by mostly healing the npcs |
| 16:17.29 | Paradox_ | taint logging? |
| 16:17.31 | Morodan | my warrior got a Despair from kara, I don't know if I want to spec arms or not, fury does good dps |
| 16:17.31 | Ellipsis | I mostly healed and threw up the occasional moonfire |
| 16:17.35 | Ellipsis | Paradox: /console taintLog 1 |
| 16:17.59 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: and you couldnt kill him? or did you not do enough damage or something to get the loot" |
| 16:18.09 | Ellipsis | couldn't kill him |
| 16:18.12 | Ellipsis | the npc's just didn't do enough dps |
| 16:18.17 | Ellipsis | and I didn't have real oomkin gear |
| 16:18.23 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
| 16:18.31 | Arrowmaster | well you should be able to easyly solo on your lock |
| 16:18.37 | Ellipsis | yeah maybe |
| 16:18.46 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 16:18.57 | Morodan | roll a paladin, I can solo anything on my paladin |
| 16:19.00 | Ellipsis | if only I could solo things like You, Robot |
| 16:19.04 | Arrowmaster | you will, hes super easy mode for any ranged dps |
| 16:19.09 | Ellipsis | that one has been bugging me forever |
| 16:19.18 | Arrowmaster | i couldnt solo that one |
| 16:19.39 | cryogen | btw whoever was asking about the new auction features, according to the auctioneer website, the new version of aucadvanced with those features enabled is due soon(tm) |
| 16:19.40 | Pkekyo | fucking retripala twinks has become a bloody nightmare |
| 16:19.55 | *** join/#wowace Industrial (n=Industri@194.145.194.227) |
| 16:19.57 | Ellipsis | or Uvuros |
| 16:19.59 | Morodan | prot pallies are better |
| 16:19.59 | Ellipsis | now that he's not kitable |
| 16:20.15 | Ellipsis | cryogen: ty |
| 16:20.22 | Arrowmaster | the new auctionhouse functions are disabled currently until a later patch |
| 16:20.36 | Morodan | what new AH features? |
| 16:21.06 | Arrowmaster | the being able to query the entire AH at once instead of in 50 item pages |
| 16:21.08 | Industrial | RTFPN |
| 16:21.11 | cryogen | quote: It was but it had to be taken out because it was crashing out of wow straight after retrieving the Auctions. |
| 16:21.14 | cryogen | It will be put back in when it works correctly. |
| 16:21.16 | cryogen | Unfortunately the AH on the Test Realm wasn't up for very long and was very small so didn't have the same problems as live realms with thousands of auctions do. |
| 16:21.32 | Ellipsis | Industrial: you are so sexy |
| 16:21.38 | Ellipsis | make babies with me? <3 |
| 16:21.40 | cryogen | but a more recent post than that on the forums claims that it will be back soon |
| 16:21.43 | Industrial | Ellipsis: damn right. |
| 16:21.44 | cryogen | so we'll see i guess |
| 16:21.46 | Industrial | Ellipsis: okai! |
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| 16:22.08 | Ellipsis | hmkay, thanks cryogen |
| 16:22.17 | Ellipsis | I'm way too lazy to actually comb through auctioneer forums |
| 16:23.19 | Morodan | I'm happy that someone finally updated cryolysis |
| 16:23.30 | Athrun-- | OUAEHoUAEHouHAEouHAEuoEHauoaehAOeuhAeuohAe |
| 16:23.41 | Ellipsis | indeed. |
| 16:23.45 | Athrun-- | oops :| |
| 16:23.47 | Morodan | well said, Athrun |
| 16:24.14 | grzesieq_ | So, tell me. Does horde really win every bg? |
| 16:24.20 | RaydenUnic | no |
| 16:24.21 | Ellipsis | that's the rumor |
| 16:24.21 | Cartas | Nope. |
| 16:24.26 | Morodan | only the one's i'm not in |
| 16:24.28 | RaydenUnic | i've played WSG where horde doesn't get a single kill |
| 16:24.38 | RaydenUnic | several of them |
| 16:24.52 | RaydenUnic | in my experience most <30 AB is horde though |
| 16:24.54 | Morodan | when I pvp, on any of my characters, people go down, like the titanic |
| 16:24.54 | Industrial | howcome mod requests/ideas are all anoying now? they used to be fun and new :( its just people that haven't ever used macros before wanting a zomg-everything-in-one-IWIN-button etc :< |
| 16:25.08 | grzesieq_ | Been trying to win an EotS whole day... |
| 16:25.16 | Ellipsis | Industrial: will you write an addon that plays WoW for me plz?? |
| 16:25.25 | Ellipsis | it's too much work, there has to be a simpler way |
| 16:25.29 | Ellipsis | if you didn't suck so much, you'd write it! |
| 16:25.31 | RaydenUnic | it sucks when you are like "sweet, i need 9 more tokens for my item. that's only 3 games if we win." --> 9 games later "grr" |
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| 16:25.51 | Morodan | lol, indeed |
| 16:26.00 | xerawx | yea thats why i never think like that.. |
| 16:26.08 | Cartas | Get a fixed. |
| 16:26.10 | xerawx | always assume you're going to lose |
| 16:26.25 | Ellipsis | Industrial: if you want interesting idea/request threads, I'll post some of my ideas...except nobody will pick them up anyway so it's really a waste of time :< |
| 16:26.26 | Morodan | horde are out to get me! |
| 16:26.39 | RaydenUnic | i have a request for a cool mod |
| 16:26.44 | Morodan | well I have this idea for a remote inspection mod |
| 16:27.06 | Paradox_ | so enable taint logging, fight archi, then what? |
| 16:27.12 | RaydenUnic | i want a connected graph of targeting or threat |
| 16:27.23 | RaydenUnic | i should say directed graph |
| 16:27.31 | Paradox_ | do I have to exit wow for the log to print |
| 16:27.36 | RaydenUnic | yes |
| 16:27.38 | RaydenUnic | or logout... |
| 16:27.39 | Industrial | Ellipsis: no its not post post post |
| 16:27.52 | Morodan | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.53 | RaydenUnic | or reload your ui |
| 16:27.54 | Paradox_ | and what will the log say? |
| 16:27.56 | Industrial | Ellipsis: less WRITE MY CUSTOM DKP ADDON more new ideas |
| 16:28.05 | RaydenUnic | what will it say? |
| 16:28.11 | Ellipsis | Industrial: it would take me almost as long to write a post as it would to actually write the addon |
| 16:28.15 | RaydenUnic | it will have anything that happened while it was recording |
| 16:28.23 | xerawx | i want a DoT/HoT tracker addon that feeds into SCT |
| 16:28.34 | xerawx | actually i think that already exists |
| 16:28.36 | xerawx | nevermind |
| 16:28.37 | RaydenUnic | i want a mod that lists all of the mobs in the battle |
| 16:28.46 | Cartas | Industrial: How about making a very unspecific, usable addon where it only works if you're a Tauren Male Warrior called Cartas on the Grim Batol server? |
| 16:29.34 | RaydenUnic | so i can click on them |
| 16:29.37 | RaydenUnic | someone make it |
| 16:29.51 | Industrial | Cartas: lol |
| 16:29.53 | Cartas | I remember there being an addon like that, RaydenUnic. |
| 16:29.53 | Ellipsis | RaydenUnic: wow, why don't you just say you want an addon that lists all mobs with raid icons and lets you click-target them! |
| 16:30.07 | Morodan | doesnt that exist? |
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| 16:30.11 | Paradox_ | and someone can work out which addon is causing me performance problems while fighting archimonde? |
| 16:30.12 | RaydenUnic | Ellipsis that works too |
| 16:30.14 | Ellipsis | it's not possible... |
| 16:30.21 | RaydenUnic | it's unfortunate |
| 16:30.36 | Morodan | I read about a mod that lets you target anything with a raid icon on it as long as someone in the raid has it targeted |
| 16:30.40 | RaydenUnic | i guess i could just display all of the mobs someone in my part is targetting |
| 16:30.42 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: you can find out which addon is giving the action blocked messages |
| 16:30.45 | RaydenUnic | why can't you do that? |
| 16:30.51 | RaydenUnic | what's blizzard's reason for not allowing it? |
| 16:30.51 | Ellipsis | fixing that may or may not help with your performance issue |
| 16:30.52 | Morodan | some fiddly stuff with /assist raid1-40 |
| 16:30.57 | Paradox_ | I only got the block message once |
| 16:31.04 | Paradox_ | just did another try on archi, no message but insane performance drop |
| 16:31.15 | Pkekyo | what's the names of nvidia's series of PCI-E graphics cards? |
| 16:31.17 | Ellipsis | RaydenUnic: Blizz doesn't have to give reasons |
| 16:31.18 | Zhinjio | G'morning, all. |
| 16:31.20 | Morodan | you're soloing Archmonde? |
| 16:31.25 | Pkekyo | morning Zhinjio |
| 16:31.26 | Cartas | Good morning, Zhinjio. |
| 16:31.29 | grzesieq_ | Paradox_: could be because of the fires |
| 16:31.32 | Ellipsis | hai Zhinjio! |
| 16:31.32 | RaydenUnic | Ellipsis why do we think we can't do that? |
| 16:31.41 | Paradox_ | i've never got this before, it's only now after 2.3 |
| 16:31.52 | Ellipsis | RaydenUnic: because it's not possible to make a unit frame (which is the only click-targetable frame) without a unitID |
| 16:31.54 | Nickenyfiken | Is there any Ace3 addon that is doing something usefull and is working (not a test addon)? |
| 16:31.57 | Morodan | its actually 12:31 in the morning for me, which is way past my bedtime |
| 16:31.58 | Ellipsis | and raid icons don't get unit IDs |
| 16:32.12 | RaydenUnic | so just display every mob in the battle :P |
| 16:32.23 | Ellipsis | displaying is only semi-possible |
| 16:32.35 | Morodan | well I think i'll go pass out now |
| 16:32.35 | RaydenUnic | it would be nice to get a list of all mobs targetting you |
| 16:32.44 | Ellipsis | because there's no unique identification of mobs with the same name |
| 16:32.58 | RaydenUnic | they should add that then :P |
| 16:33.01 | Ellipsis | RaydenUnic: also not possible unless you're targeting/mousing over them or someone in your party/raid is targeting them |
| 16:33.03 | Cartas | lol |
| 16:33.05 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 16:33.35 | grzesieq_ | Anyone got an idea how to make WitchHunt look like the spell alert in Nurfed? |
| 16:33.50 | Ellipsis | here's the basic problem: just because it's on your screen (i.e. in the 3D world) doesn't mean addons know it exists |
| 16:34.02 | Ellipsis | people don't get that, so they ask for addons that can't be written |
| 16:34.10 | Ellipsis | they assume if they can see it, then an addon can |
| 16:34.46 | Cartas | Well, his idea is doable. |
| 16:34.50 | Cartas | I've seen an addon that does it. |
| 16:34.56 | dylanm | Nickenyfiken: Tuller's Combuctor uses Ace3. There's a branch of ag_UnitFrames that ag has been hacking on that uses it as well, if you want a more complex example. |
| 16:35.12 | Ellipsis | it's kinda sorta hackishly doable, sure |
| 16:35.18 | Cartas | Oh, well, you can display them easily. |
| 16:35.19 | Ellipsis | I mean, people use Proximo |
| 16:35.23 | Cartas | Not sure about the selection |
| 16:35.32 | Nickenyfiken | dylanm: ok nice, i thought Combuctor used Dongle |
| 16:35.41 | RaydenUnic | Ellipsis as an end user you shouldn't require me to know how addons work when i ask for features. I play the game. I see things that are lacking or that I want. That's the way it should be. |
| 16:35.49 | RaydenUnic | It is then your job to tell me it can't be done :) |
| 16:35.57 | Ellipsis | RaydenUnic: which is why I'm telling you that it can't be done |
| 16:36.01 | dylanm | Nickenyfiken: It did but Tuller got curious and the parts he uses are almost identical to their Dongle counterparts. |
| 16:36.05 | Cartas | I don't make addons either, RaydenUnic! :P |
| 16:36.07 | Ellipsis | but people post the SAME IDEA over and over on the requests forum |
| 16:36.11 | Cartas | I'm just a player, but still... |
| 16:36.12 | Ellipsis | without even searching first |
| 16:36.15 | RaydenUnic | it's wrong to expect end users to know implementation details |
| 16:36.20 | Ellipsis | sure it is |
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| 16:36.31 | dylanm | Nickenyfiken: The event system for example |
| 16:36.33 | Ellipsis | but it's not wrong to expect them to look and see if anyone else has made the suggestion before they post it |
| 16:36.40 | Nickenyfiken | dylanm: ok |
| 16:37.28 | RaydenUnic | i don't think i would look for a post titled something like "why can't we get a list of mobs in the battle" i'd be looking for something like "mod that shows mobs" |
| 16:37.35 | RaydenUnic | that may or may not come up with the right threads |
| 16:37.36 | Ellipsis | RaydenUnic: you are not listening |
| 16:37.41 | RaydenUnic | i am |
| 16:37.52 | RaydenUnic | i'm saying the vocabulary programmers use to discuss the problems is different than the featureset |
| 16:38.00 | Ellipsis | that is irrelevant |
| 16:38.00 | RaydenUnic | yes people should do their own research |
| 16:38.08 | Ellipsis | people have posted 239785216 threads requesting the same addon |
| 16:38.10 | RaydenUnic | but it gets old when all people do is complain that people don't search |
| 16:38.14 | RaydenUnic | searches aren't perfect |
| 16:38.15 | Ellipsis | surely if you search for your own phrasing of it, you'll find something |
| 16:38.25 | Ellipsis | it gets old when we complain about users that don't search? |
| 16:38.36 | Ellipsis | you don't think it gets old when people re-post the same thing over and over? |
| 16:38.36 | RaydenUnic | it sometimes gets used too much |
| 16:38.57 | RaydenUnic | rtfm can get really old when you've tried to do your research and didn't find anything |
| 16:39.14 | Ellipsis | most people don't try |
| 16:39.19 | Ellipsis | if they try and don't find anything, fine |
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| 16:39.26 | Ellipsis | if they just post without taking a moment to read stickies or use search, no |
| 16:39.42 | xerawx | i'd like a mod that turns an exciting 3D game into a tedious chore akin to whack-a-mole |
| 16:39.59 | Ellipsis | xerawx: that's already in teh default UI ;) |
| 16:40.22 | RaydenUnic | i should stop playing and be productive |
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| 16:41.16 | kebinusan | The capping gy capture timers are off I think, Seems like GY's are still 5m caps |
| 16:43.46 | RaydenUnic | Samophlange! |
| 16:43.56 | cryogen | how can you not be sure? it's not like you cant get hard data :p |
| 16:44.03 | cncfanatics | cryogen, yo |
| 16:44.07 | cncfanatics | what lvl are u now ? :) |
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| 16:44.18 | cryogen | 68.95 |
| 16:44.36 | cncfanatics | meh, I'm getting behind a damn lot |
| 16:44.42 | Glorian | Hi |
| 16:44.43 | cryogen | nate is 68 now :/ |
| 16:44.53 | cryogen | im away all this week tho |
| 16:45.00 | cryogen | unless the hotel wireless is any good |
| 16:45.15 | RaydenUnic | man |
| 16:45.21 | RaydenUnic | i stayed at the worst hotel this last week |
| 16:45.42 | RaydenUnic | the garage we were told to park in has had cars broken into multiple times the previous week |
| 16:45.50 | cryogen | well, im not exactly staying into a 5 star :) |
| 16:46.00 | RaydenUnic | we got free wireless |
| 16:46.05 | RaydenUnic | we used it to look for another hotel to stay at |
| 16:46.09 | cryogen | lol |
| 16:46.19 | cncfanatics | I need to play more |
| 16:46.23 | cncfanatics | been away whole weekend, again |
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| 16:50.16 | Glorian | cncfanatics its just a game :) |
| 16:50.31 | Glorian | you dont need to do anything :) |
| 16:51.19 | Paradox_ | here's my taint log |
| 16:51.20 | Paradox_ | http://ace.pastey.net/77563 |
| 16:51.34 | [Ammo] | local module = self:GetModule( name ) |
| 16:51.35 | [Ammo] | module:SetEnabledState(true) |
| 16:51.43 | [Ammo] | hrmf bad mouse |
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| 16:52.24 | Paradox_ | I guess it's MoveAnything which is causing my lag? |
| 16:52.39 | cncfanatics | Glorian, I'm rerolling, I wouldn't mind being 70 tbh :p |
| 16:53.46 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: it's causing taint, at least |
| 16:54.41 | RaydenUnic | is there a way to make pitbull nto display cast when i'm in bear form? |
| 16:54.54 | Pkekyo | I need a good and cheap replacement for my Radeon x1650 Pro, compatible with my Asus M2V motherboard.... what to get? |
| 16:55.04 | Glorian | I still dont have a lvl 70 char |
| 16:55.12 | Glorian | my highest is 64 |
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| 16:57.37 | Xuerian | Ok, it just dawned on me. wtf is rock, exactly? I had thought it was just a config window... |
| 16:57.55 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: it's ckknight's Ace3 equivalent |
| 16:58.07 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: Ok.. how's that work o_0 |
| 16:58.24 | Pkekyo | it's an addon framework |
| 16:58.31 | Xuerian | He forks 2 to 3, devs 3, rebrands it rock? |
| 16:59.16 | Pkekyo | originally, the plan was to have it be Ace3 (if memory serves), but due to some disagreement, I guess, he decided to say sod-all to ace3 and make it his own framework instead |
| 16:59.30 | Xuerian | Ah.... that's great... |
| 17:00.20 | Pkekyo | o'rly? |
| 17:00.33 | xerawx | e-drama ftl |
| 17:00.35 | Xuerian | This makes four primary frameworks |
| 17:00.45 | Ellipsis | four? |
| 17:00.48 | Pkekyo | ace, ace2 ace3 and rock? |
| 17:00.53 | Xuerian | Ace(3), Rock, Cosmos, and Dongle |
| 17:01.03 | Xuerian | gawsh, leave the damn chatrooom once in a while o_0 |
| 17:01.10 | Ellipsis | lol @ Pkekyo |
| 17:01.21 | Pkekyo | never even heard of cosmos, and dongle just sounded too kinky for me to look into |
| 17:01.29 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 17:01.44 | xerawx | i thought cosmos was just a compilation |
| 17:01.49 | clad|away | it is |
| 17:02.06 | clad|away | people seem to think its an addon framework, but i think that's being too specific about it |
| 17:02.18 | Xuerian | Fair enough, it's not then |
| 17:02.21 | Xuerian | That's still three |
| 17:02.29 | Xuerian | And two that exist for similar reasons |
| 17:02.37 | Xuerian | Wait, wait |
| 17:02.38 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with that? |
| 17:02.46 | Xuerian | Khaos is what I was thinking of, not Cosmos |
| 17:03.11 | Xuerian | Nothing, it's just consternating |
| 17:03.19 | Xuerian | And it makes my addon folder larger |
| 17:03.40 | clad|away | khaos isn't a framework |
| 17:03.43 | Ellipsis | eh, libstub will help a great deal |
| 17:03.53 | clad|away | its an addon that provides a consistent options system |
| 17:04.15 | Xuerian | clad|away: you're right, again. Please name the set of libraries associated with Khaos, because I can't remember them, and those are what I was talking about |
| 17:04.31 | Pkekyo | I need a good and cheap replacement for my Radeon x1650 Pro, compatible with my Asus M2V motherboard.... what to get? |
| 17:04.34 | clad|away | Sea is a set of java-like function collections used by some of the cosmos addons |
| 17:04.58 | clad|away | but its just that, a set of functions not a framework that dictates how an addon is implemented |
| 17:05.09 | Xuerian | Alright then. Three frameworks, and one "java-like function collection" |
| 17:05.12 | clad|away | :P |
| 17:05.17 | clad|away | it does make a difference |
| 17:05.34 | clad|away | especially when people start talking shit about Sea, because they don't understand what its purpose is :P |
| 17:05.38 | fishbot2 | sylvanaar: where can I find a recent copy of the WAU source? |
| 17:05.58 | xerawx | Pkekyo: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/06/best_graphics_card/ |
| 17:06.31 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: can't be bothered to google, pcie or agp? |
| 17:06.37 | Pkekyo | toms hardware? isn't that those nutters that put food oil into their comp to cool it? |
| 17:06.43 | Pkekyo | pci-e |
| 17:07.10 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: I believe the GeForce 8800 or 8600 that just came out would be good |
| 17:07.20 | Xuerian | Whichever was the new midrange one >.o |
| 17:07.48 | Pkekyo | 8600 is the cheaper one |
| 17:07.56 | Pkekyo | but it's still a bit too expensive for me :< |
| 17:07.56 | Fisker- | asus m2v? :O |
| 17:08.07 | Fisker- | also 8800 GT = best bang for buck |
| 17:08.24 | thul | Fisker-: well, it costs like 2x the 8600 |
| 17:08.32 | Fisker- | but it's 1 billion times better |
| 17:08.32 | thul | and the 8600 with gddr3 is quite nice :-P |
| 17:08.51 | xerawx | if you're just going to play wow basically you don't even need a dx10 card |
| 17:09.05 | clad|away | Xuerian: which other two? |
| 17:09.13 | xerawx | the 8600 is underpowered for dx10 anyway |
| 17:09.17 | thul | Fisker-: not if one is going to play wow only |
| 17:09.20 | clad|away | no one here has any clue why dongle really exists, so i'd be interested to hear your speculation |
| 17:09.26 | Xuerian | clad|away: I claim my 5th amendment right |
| 17:09.26 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: yes, asus m2v |
| 17:09.27 | Cartas | x1900XTX = best! |
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| 17:09.39 | clad|away | *shrug* |
| 17:09.44 | clad|away | or you could just ask me instead of making judgement |
| 17:09.47 | Glorian | i own a x1950xt |
| 17:09.49 | clad|away | but whatevs |
| 17:09.51 | Pkekyo | xerawxif you're just going to play wow basically you don't even need a dx10 card <--- play alot of heavier stuff too |
| 17:09.56 | Xuerian | clad|away: Has anyone ever asked you? |
| 17:09.58 | Glorian | works quite nice |
| 17:10.03 | Glorian | zalman cooler |
| 17:10.04 | cladhaire | yes, they have |
| 17:10.10 | cladhaire | but not people in this channel |
| 17:10.10 | Xuerian | And have you answered them honestly? |
| 17:10.25 | Glorian | but no DX10 M$ support ;) |
| 17:10.25 | cladhaire | yes, i answer every question I'm asked honestly |
| 17:10.29 | cladhaire | full stop |
| 17:10.32 | Cartas | Do you love me? |
| 17:10.38 | Xuerian | Fair enough then. Why did dongle come into being? |
| 17:10.44 | cladhaire | Cartas: nope, sorry |
| 17:10.50 | Cartas | Wow, you are honest. |
| 17:11.06 | Fisker- | what about me? |
| 17:11.45 | cladhaire | Xuerian: After the disagreements with ckknight about basing all of Ace on AceOO, and adding features to AceLibrary that I firmly believed didn't belong there, I got no support from Kaelten, so I decided that I would let them take Ace2 where they wanted to take it. I continued using it but not developing it. |
| 17:11.46 | xerawx | I'll rip the secrets from your flesh! |
| 17:11.51 | cladhaire | Clique and PerfectRaid both ran on Ace2 |
| 17:12.21 | cladhaire | then AceHook-2.1 I believe was written, changing QUITE a bit of things, and someone on the SVN changed Clique's externals to use it. |
| 17:12.37 | Pkekyo | so 8600 is a no-go for dx10 apps? |
| 17:12.40 | cladhaire | This shipped my addon, which was and is extremely popular, out to a large base of users breaking their addons and their ability to heal effectively |
| 17:12.48 | Fisker- | a lot is a no-go for dx10 apps imo |
| 17:13.04 | cladhaire | This caused me to leave the SVN and move to googlecode, so I could get away from what I consider a bullshit method of application development and release. |
| 17:13.06 | Fisker- | most of the stuff is still possible using driver hacks |
| 17:13.22 | Cartas | I don't see much reason to require DX10 yet... |
| 17:13.41 | cladhaire | Looking at both of my addons, I realized that I didn't need half of the shit in Ace2.. and seeing the features that kept getting added on a daily basis, like Tekkub's loot crap, and the travesty that was AceLocale-2.0. |
| 17:14.01 | cladhaire | I realized I needed a set of functions that I used in every single addon, that would be small, simple, and just work for me with a sane release process. |
| 17:14.29 | cladhaire | I looked at other small ones that had been written and released, and didn't like exactly how they worked (there is a very interesting KISS one on wowinterface). |
| 17:14.50 | cladhaire | So I wrote an event and message dispatch system, a database system and moved Clique and PerfectRaid to the then alpha Dongle. |
| 17:15.04 | cladhaire | I didn't recruit anyone, advertise, or come to anyone about Dongle |
| 17:15.07 | thul | wtf is dongle? |
| 17:15.32 | Fisker- | actually you came to me |
| 17:15.37 | Fisker- | and i said "give me dongle" |
| 17:15.39 | dylanm | http://dongle.googlecode.com |
| 17:15.39 | cladhaire | Fisker-: lies. |
| 17:15.40 | Fisker- | and liek |
| 17:15.49 | Fisker- | words were writing by itself |
| 17:15.59 | cladhaire | people asked me because they saw it in my addons, and wanted to know more about it. It still is just a core set of functions that I consider vital, and I'm the one who drives it.. other people happen to use it, tho many of them will go to Ace3 |
| 17:16.08 | cladhaire | and that's the moral of the story, truth and blatant |
| 17:16.24 | cladhaire | nothing secret or malicious about anything.. just one guy trying to make his addons work consistently for his users. |
| 17:17.03 | Pkekyo | Fisker-a lot is a no-go for dx10 apps imo <---- care to elaborate? |
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| 17:17.41 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has a contrary story, since I intentionally listed only the facts, rather than my opinions :P |
| 17:18.25 | Xuerian | cladhaire: While we're both being honest, I believe I was around when you explained it another time (#wowi-lounge, I think). Because of that, of course fuzzily on the details, that's pretty much what I thought of Dongle |
| 17:18.30 | Fisker- | Pkekyo the additions to DX10 isn't that great when you take into consideration that mots effects can still be gained through DX9 and a driver hack |
| 17:18.44 | Fisker- | that's why you see so many "Use this driver to optimize <insert game>" |
| 17:18.53 | Xuerian | In fact, this i what I had typed up: Alright, you're on the dongle end cause you got pissy with certain actions of certain members of at the time ace2, and ckk is on the rock fork because of the same reason, wtf >_o |
| 17:19.04 | Fisker- | because the game is using a hack that doesn't work as well on older drivers, and the drivers have to be updated to support this hack |
| 17:19.23 | cladhaire | I didn't think you had anything negative to say, but I wanted to hear it either way :P |
| 17:19.29 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: soeh...I shouldn't get a DX10 card? |
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| 17:19.41 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: But I would argue the reason for Dongle existing, and the reason for Rock existing are quite... different. |
| 17:19.41 | Fisker- | that depends |
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| 17:19.49 | Fisker- | a card like the 8800GT is still awesome in DX9 |
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| 17:20.06 | Fisker- | but basically it's very little that you at the moment can run decently in DX10 |
| 17:20.23 | Pkekyo | well, if I buy a graphics card now, I'm not buying another one for a couple of years... |
| 17:20.25 | Fisker- | which is due to the new shader models |
| 17:20.40 | Fisker- | then i think you should be spending more money than you're planning |
| 17:21.14 | Cartas | Once Starcraft 2 uses DX10, you can buy a DX10 card. |
| 17:21.26 | Fisker- | heh |
| 17:21.38 | Xuerian | Starcraft is overrated. |
| 17:21.44 | Fisker- | nah |
| 17:21.48 | Fisker- | starcraft is awesum |
| 17:21.49 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: I have way less money than I'm plaanning >.< |
| 17:21.50 | Polarina | Strcraft 2 uses DirectX 10? |
| 17:22.01 | Xuerian | Polarina: "Once Starcraft 2 uses..." |
| 17:22.02 | Fisker- | nope |
| 17:22.17 | Fisker- | can't really help you more than that Pkekyo |
| 17:22.22 | Fisker- | i can tell you should go nvidia though :P |
| 17:22.29 | Cartas | Well, the folk at Blizzard said they're considering adding DX10 goodies. |
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| 17:22.56 | Polarina | Anyone who uses DirectX 10 should suffer the rest of their lifes with pain! |
| 17:23.21 | Gngsk | sign me up for DX10 if it gives you multiple lives! |
| 17:23.24 | Cartas | Likewise with DX9! |
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| 17:23.54 | Cartas | I'm using DirectX 6. |
| 17:23.56 | Polarina | Cartas: Yes that too, but not as much. Everyone should use OpenGL and OpenGL only! |
| 17:24.01 | Cartas | Populous: The Beginning! |
| 17:24.07 | Cartas | That uses DX6, see. |
| 17:24.12 | Cartas | Theme Hospital too, woo. |
| 17:24.19 | Cartas | Why would you need any higher> |
| 17:24.34 | Cartas | DX > OpenGL, Polarina. |
| 17:24.46 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 17:24.49 | Polarina | Cartas: OpenGL 3.0 > DirectX!!!! |
| 17:24.52 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:24.55 | Cartas | Really? |
| 17:24.56 | Polarina | YES! |
| 17:24.59 | Fisker- | OpenGL still = shit |
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| 17:25.03 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: how's nvidia so much better? |
| 17:25.04 | Cartas | Then why aren't all games using openGL instead? |
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| 17:25.15 | Ellipsis | because they know how to code DX games |
| 17:25.15 | Fisker- | Pkekyo don't know, ati/amd just sucks |
| 17:25.19 | Lukian | a lot use both. |
| 17:25.19 | Ellipsis | not oGL |
| 17:25.24 | Cartas | Exactly, DX is better because people know it. |
| 17:25.27 | Polarina | Cartas: Because the developers have braindamage like AT&T. |
| 17:25.29 | Fisker- | Lukian i wouldn't say a lot |
| 17:25.31 | fishbot2 | well considering opengl doesn't do anything else other than 3d rendering, it's clearly not better than the entirely of directx |
| 17:25.36 | Fisker- | basically it's just Blizzard doing it |
| 17:25.37 | Pkekyo | PolarinaCartas: Yes that too, but not as much. Everyone should use OpenGL and OpenGL only! <----- I'd sign that petition |
| 17:25.38 | Fisker- | :D |
| 17:25.38 | fishbot2 | opengl > direct3d might be a valid statement :P |
| 17:25.42 | Ellipsis | wtf wtf wtf |
| 17:25.44 | Lukian | Fisker-, unreal? |
| 17:25.45 | Ellipsis | fishbot2 actually talks?! |
| 17:25.51 | Fisker- | it's not fishbot2 |
| 17:25.52 | Ellipsis | and at the same time as the other fishbot2 |
| 17:25.57 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: ATI Radeon's never been a wrong choise for gaming before... |
| 17:26.00 | Lukian | quake engine also? |
| 17:26.01 | Ellipsis | I can't tab anymore |
| 17:26.03 | Ellipsis | I quit |
| 17:26.12 | Fisker- | Pkekyo they were ok back in the 9800 times |
| 17:26.12 | Kuja^ | you fail |
| 17:26.15 | Fisker- | but then they failed |
| 17:26.18 | Fisker- | and nvidia won |
| 17:26.42 | Polarina | Fisker-: AMD is comming into the graphic card market, or so I heard. |
| 17:26.43 | Cartas | No way, Fisker-. |
| 17:26.47 | Cartas | ATi were winning with x1900. |
| 17:26.56 | Pkekyo | fishbot2well considering opengl doesn't do anything else other than 3d rendering, it's clearly not better than the entirely of directx <---- what's the difference? |
| 17:26.58 | Lukian | AMD is going bust, so I heard. |
| 17:27.02 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#OpenGL_Games |
| 17:27.12 | Pkekyo | Polarina: they allready did...they bought ATI >.< |
| 17:27.12 | Fisker- | lose, goodbye, sir, etc. |
| 17:27.19 | fishbot2 | between direct3d and directx? |
| 17:27.37 | fishbot2 | directx consists of directinput, directsound, directplay, direct3d, directdraw, etcetcetc |
| 17:27.41 | Fisker- | never Cartas |
| 17:27.44 | Cartas | Yes. |
| 17:27.57 | Cartas | x1900 was the fastest GPU in the world at its release, I remember. |
| 17:27.58 | Pkekyo | fishbot2: thought you stated OpenGL vs. directx in that sentence? |
| 17:28.01 | Fisker- | i said never |
| 17:28.06 | Fisker- | I disagree |
| 17:28.08 | Cartas | You're mistaken, old chap. |
| 17:28.42 | Fisker- | it was still shit though |
| 17:28.47 | Fisker- | and nvidia still blew them out of the water |
| 17:28.47 | Cartas | Nope. |
| 17:28.49 | Cartas | It's still great. |
| 17:28.51 | fishbot2 | well directx is clearly better than opengl unless you like a game without sound and inputs :p |
| 17:28.57 | Cartas | I'm using x1900's now, Fisker-. |
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| 17:29.11 | xerawx | my 3dfx voodoo was the shit when it came out too |
| 17:29.17 | Fisker- | and now they're pushing back their G98 release by half a year because ati is sitting with their thumbs up their asses doing nothing |
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| 17:29.29 | Pkekyo | fishbot2: what does the audio whilst running OpenGL video odes then? |
| 17:29.30 | Cartas | I have a Voodoo 2, xerawx! :) |
| 17:29.32 | Xuerian | fishbot2: Orly. I like my ETQW with excellent sound and the most configurable input system out there besides wow |
| 17:29.35 | Fisker- | the same Intel is doing with their new 45nm cpu's |
| 17:30.05 | fishbot2 | so the developers have spent a large amount of time writing crossplatform audio and input code |
| 17:30.27 | xerawx | Cartas: i still have a riva tnt2 in an old celeron, runs glquake great :D |
| 17:30.31 | fishbot2 | which is why most developers just go with directx instead of opengl + audio library + input library + custom netcode + ... |
| 17:30.36 | Cartas | :D |
| 17:30.38 | Pkekyo | well, I've always been getting better graphics results running OpenGL mode tbh |
| 17:30.43 | Cartas | I still have my Voodoo 2 running... |
| 17:30.54 | Cartas | I use it for Silver because it messes up on my other comps. |
| 17:30.55 | Cartas | :D |
| 17:31.17 | Cartas | Silver is a great game! |
| 17:31.20 | Lukian | Fisker-, thawted by wikipedia! "Nowadays, most developers would let the user choose between OpenGL or Direct3D" |
| 17:31.31 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:31.33 | fishbot2 | most developers don't |
| 17:31.37 | Cartas | Where's the proof of that? |
| 17:31.44 | fishbot2 | because supporting two rendering paths is a pain in the ass |
| 17:31.44 | Lukian | it's citation needed :P |
| 17:31.44 | Cartas | The only game I know of letting me use openGL is WoW... |
| 17:31.46 | Lukian | hahaha |
| 17:31.58 | Cartas | Hm, maybe Simcity4 lets me use openGL... |
| 17:32.01 | Lukian | Cartas, the entire unreal series and all games made from it do. |
| 17:32.07 | Cartas | Wow. |
| 17:32.10 | Pkekyo | in every game I start I instantly look for the OpenGL settings |
| 17:32.11 | Lukian | incl. bioshock |
| 17:32.36 | fishbot2 | so they've spent a lot of time on money writing an abstractation(sp?) layer around opengl/direct3d |
| 17:32.40 | fishbot2 | time and money! |
| 17:32.48 | fishbot2 | most developers don't bother and just use directx |
| 17:32.50 | Cartas | and 90%+ will use DX anyways, right? :p |
| 17:33.04 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 17:33.18 | Fisker- | Blizzard is lucky to have a lot of money and mac based developement going on |
| 17:33.31 | Cartas | lol @ Mac. |
| 17:33.40 | Xuerian | fishbot2: Well, grats to those developers. gg to them too. I like my Unreal3, ETQW, EVE, etc... |
| 17:33.50 | fishbot2 | Xuerian: one of them would be Valve |
| 17:33.54 | Pkekyo | agreed Xinhuan |
| 17:33.54 | fishbot2 | they're pretty important :p |
| 17:34.00 | Xuerian | fishbot2: I don't give a shit, really |
| 17:34.06 | Xuerian | Hl2 was good |
| 17:34.18 | Xuerian | But they're too lazy to write it in something cross platform |
| 17:34.24 | Xuerian | And just rely on wine to pick up their slack |
| 17:34.30 | Fisker- | "lazy" |
| 17:34.30 | fishbot2 | too lazy? |
| 17:34.32 | Cartas | Slack? |
| 17:34.38 | Fisker- | can't see why they would in the first place |
| 17:34.40 | Xuerian | And no, I couldn't do it :) |
| 17:34.42 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: define cross platform? |
| 17:34.45 | fishbot2 | more like they've worked out how much money supporting the mac/linux markets would make them |
| 17:34.45 | Fisker- | it's a bad business decision |
| 17:34.50 | fishbot2 | and have figured out it's not worth it |
| 17:34.56 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Tell that to ID |
| 17:34.56 | fishbot2 | they're smarter than YOU believe it or not |
| 17:35.01 | Xuerian | and Epic o_0 |
| 17:35.15 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: define cross platform? |
| 17:35.32 | Xuerian | Pkekyo: In this case, something that runs natively on more than one platform? |
| 17:35.44 | fishbot2 | oh but it's running natively on wine ;p |
| 17:35.45 | Xuerian | Or is there some mysterious definition I'm missing? 0_o |
| 17:35.48 | Ellipsis | but are you talking about OS support now? |
| 17:35.51 | Cartas | Platform meaning Operating System, right? |
| 17:35.55 | Ellipsis | I thought the whole discussion was opengl vs. directx |
| 17:36.08 | Ellipsis | AHEM |
| 17:36.14 | Ellipsis | I am a valve fan*girl* tyvm |
| 17:36.14 | Xuerian | ... and girls. |
| 17:36.21 | Cartas | AHEM |
| 17:36.24 | fishbot2 | I personally don't like valve :p |
| 17:36.25 | Xuerian | AND ITS |
| 17:36.27 | Cartas | I'm not a Valve fanboy... |
| 17:36.32 | Cartas | Nintendo is best! |
| 17:36.33 | fishbot2 | their ads in CS |
| 17:36.35 | Cartas | Bullfrog were great... |
| 17:36.36 | Lukian | Cartas, valve transgender then? |
| 17:36.38 | fishbot2 | their abuse of dosbox |
| 17:36.50 | fishbot2 | steam generally being rubbish |
| 17:37.06 | fishbot2 | they're a nasty company |
| 17:37.09 | fishbot2 | they're also pretty successful |
| 17:37.15 | Ellipsis | steam sucks, sure |
| 17:37.20 | Ellipsis | but it's accomplishing its goal |
| 17:37.24 | Pkekyo | Valve is full of win and awesome and everyone saying otherwise should go sodomize themselves with a retractable baton |
| 17:37.28 | dylanm | You know, using male as the default gender is a fine convention. Saying "he or she" is a waste of letters. |
| 17:37.36 | Cartas | Say s/he. |
| 17:37.38 | Ellipsis | there are no girls on the internets anyway |
| 17:37.39 | fishbot2 | dylanm: as long as you're consistent! |
| 17:37.43 | Lukian | say 've' |
| 17:37.47 | Fisker- | steam fucking wins |
| 17:37.49 | Lukian | gender insensitive case. |
| 17:37.55 | Xuerian | Ellipsis: You make a excellent point |
| 17:37.56 | Cartas | S/he said hello. |
| 17:37.58 | Cartas | See, that's best. |
| 17:37.59 | Pkekyo | girl on the internet means 'Guy In Real Life' |
| 17:38.12 | Fisker- | Steam is the best method of distribution atm |
| 17:38.16 | fishbot2 | microsoft actually support directx too |
| 17:38.19 | Pkekyo | agreed, Fisker- |
| 17:38.19 | fishbot2 | and the documentation is there |
| 17:38.26 | dylanm | Spivak came up with some gender-neutral pronouns but no one uses them. |
| 17:38.38 | fishbot2 | if you've ever tried writing a non trivial opengl program you'll realise when you have to start supporting vender specific instructions it becomes a complete PITA |
| 17:38.51 | Xuerian | There are no females on the internets. There are men, men playing women, boys, old men pretending to be boys, and fbi investigators pretending to be 13 year old girls. >_> |
| 17:39.05 | dylanm | Holla at you FBI investigators |
| 17:39.27 | Pkekyo | zomg ELLIPSIS R FBI RUEN!!!!!!!!!!!!111 |
| 17:39.45 | dylanm | That would explain a lot |
| 17:39.48 | Ellipsis | dammit, my cover is blown |
| 17:39.54 | Ellipsis | thanks a lot Xuerian |
| 17:40.05 | Pkekyo | shoot the fed! KILL IT! POKE IT WITH A STICK |
| 17:40.06 | Xuerian | Go peddle your false warez somewhere else =O |
| 17:40.13 | fridg | bah, gmail finally stopped working >_< |
| 17:40.15 | Cartas | I break laws, Ellipsis. |
| 17:40.27 | Pkekyo | fridg: how'd you manage to do that? |
| 17:40.30 | dylanm | I don't wash my hands like ever |
| 17:40.32 | Ellipsis | Cartas: you're a naughty one, I may have to punish you. |
| 17:40.35 | Cartas | :O |
| 17:40.38 | fridg | gmail the mod |
| 17:40.52 | Ellipsis | gmail has been dead for like, ever |
| 17:40.55 | fridg | the one that was illegal or something, it was taken off the svn a while ago |
| 17:40.57 | fridg | yeah i know |
| 17:41.02 | fridg | but it worked until this patch xD |
| 17:41.05 | fridg | <---lazy |
| 17:41.15 | fridg | so postal is it now no? |
| 17:41.19 | Cartas | Postal! |
| 17:41.43 | dylanm | Illegal? |
| 17:41.50 | Cartas | Addons sure have evolved since the beta-days... remember everyone running around with Cosmos just for the second hot-bar. <3 |
| 17:42.00 | fridg | i think it was almost a complete ct_mail ripoff |
| 17:42.00 | Pkekyo | Postal was a great game...cats for silencers = win |
| 17:42.02 | Ellipsis | postal or bulkmail2 imo |
| 17:42.08 | Cartas | Postal, Ellipsis. |
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| 17:42.11 | Cartas | Say Postal |
| 17:42.14 | Cartas | Just Postal. |
| 17:42.27 | fridg | Gmail. |
| 17:42.58 | Pkekyo | Dinmamma. |
| 17:42.59 | Ellipsis | but I use bulkmail... |
| 17:43.03 | Cartas | Oh... |
| 17:43.34 | fridg | oh shit, alternateblips update, hot shit. |
| 17:43.41 | Pkekyo | what's the point of these mail addons now anyways? didn't blizz add it's functionality to the default UI? |
| 17:44.10 | fridg | honestly, i just miss being able to alt+click onto 15 things and click send |
| 17:44.20 | fridg | and w/e did that for trade windows |
| 17:44.23 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: up to 12 items, yeah |
| 17:44.26 | fridg | alt + clicking was the shit |
| 17:44.35 | Ellipsis | I still tend to bulk mail > 12 items at a time |
| 17:44.42 | Ellipsis | and the take all button is still nice |
| 17:44.45 | fridg | depends |
| 17:44.46 | fridg | yes |
| 17:44.49 | Ellipsis | and autosend rules in bulkmail are sexy |
| 17:44.57 | Pkekyo | I've never even owned more than 12 items that's not soulbound :p |
| 17:45.01 | Lukian | lol! |
| 17:45.09 | Ellipsis | l2farm :P |
| 17:45.34 | Fisker- | http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10.aspx <-lol |
| 17:45.39 | Pkekyo | don't have much time online, sadly :< |
| 17:46.18 | sb | hmm |
| 17:46.22 | sb | is it bad to have "Global variable _ tainted "? |
| 17:46.25 | Fisker- | so if we have DirectX 9 Crysis automatically looks like Halo |
| 17:46.35 | aestil | fridg: get alt click to send items |
| 17:46.51 | fridg | is that a mod? |
| 17:47.08 | aestil | yeah. |
| 17:47.17 | aestil | its called altclick blah blah something |
| 17:47.19 | Glorian | http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10.aspx <- lol |
| 17:47.33 | Fisker- | i already said that |
| 17:47.33 | fridg | i don't know which mod was adding it before, but it was nice, esp for say, some fag in my guild 5s before we pull being like OMG FRIDG I NEED 720 WATER FOR TONGIHT |
| 17:47.34 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:47.43 | Glorian | Why did they not compare Crysis DX 9 with crysis dx10? |
| 17:47.47 | xerawx | for being a fning desert the mob density in the badlands is pretty high >.< |
| 17:48.02 | Glorian | because the differences are marginaly |
| 17:48.16 | fridg | wait you can download dx10 now? |
| 17:48.22 | fridg | i thought it was a vista only shiz |
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| 17:48.39 | dylanm | I really wish I could get into not having visible bars :-/ |
| 17:48.52 | Glorian | dylanm what is your problem? |
| 17:48.55 | Ellipsis | I wish I could get into not having *any* visible bars |
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| 17:49.29 | Fisker- | it is vista only fridg |
| 17:50.01 | fridg | ok, cuz i use vista and i like dx10, but i'd be pissed if actually paid for my copy and then they made ti so xp lulz could get it |
| 17:50.19 | dylanm | ... |
| 17:50.32 | aestil | fridg: thats lol funny what you just said. |
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| 17:50.50 | Ellipsis | no u aestil |
| 17:51.01 | aestil | i am lol funny |
| 17:51.01 | fridg | i got ym vista business free, msdn software alliance ftw |
| 17:51.03 | xerawx | lolvista |
| 17:51.24 | xerawx | asta lolvista |
| 17:51.28 | aestil | i drank a lot last night |
| 17:51.35 | fridg | w/e you can rag on vista and dx10 all you want, but play bioshock for 10 mins and if you don't cream your jeans, you're legally blind |
| 17:51.56 | aestil | wow, this is a stupid conversation |
| 17:52.04 | fridg | well, pending you have a dx10 gfx card, and you're comp doesn't blow dick |
| 17:52.11 | aestil | ok |
| 17:52.12 | fridg | lol |
| 17:52.30 | Glorian | no Friggin DRM Vista crap until i cant play any of my favourite games on XP |
| 17:52.48 | fridg | people bitch about drm all the time |
| 17:52.52 | fridg | i don't see any of it |
| 17:53.06 | fridg | and i have tons of illegit media |
| 17:53.40 | fridg | i d/l prob 15 movies a week, and have i dunno maybe 30gb of music or something (MY EPEEN R TEH HUGE) |
| 17:53.48 | xerawx | i won't consider installing vista until i see a benchmark where it actually outperforms XP at anything.. and i have a brand new c2q |
| 17:54.06 | fridg | srsly dx10 is worth it |
| 17:54.07 | fishbot2 | the drm stuff affects you if you're watching hd-dvd/blu-ray |
| 17:54.15 | fridg | oh |
| 17:54.18 | fishbot2 | protected video path etcetcetc |
| 17:54.23 | fishbot2 | if you pirate you don't have a problem :p |
| 17:54.25 | fridg | i don't have any of that stuff |
| 17:54.27 | fishbot2 | (another reason to pirate) |
| 17:55.02 | fishbot2 | vista does have all the tainting overhead though |
| 17:55.04 | fridg | i've got dvd player, and a tv out, but my tv is like twice and big and half a good as my lcd so i don't mess with it, unless its fullscreen porn night |
| 17:55.08 | fishbot2 | there was a good faq about that |
| 17:55.15 | fridg | yeah |
| 17:56.06 | fridg | its prob got more overhead, but i don't notice it, my last comp was a 1.8 pentium m laptop, and im currently on a pretty nice homebuild box c2d 2.4 |
| 17:56.11 | fishbot2 | http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 17:56.15 | fridg | so vista seems loads faster |
| 17:56.25 | fridg | i have xp installed so i can always reboot if i need to |
| 17:56.32 | Glorian | fridg Think about the future whe MS implemts more of their "trusted Computing stuff" |
| 17:56.43 | fridg | and a linux partition in case i feel like i wanna be 'open-souce' gay or w/e |
| 17:56.44 | fishbot2 | I expect they'll be forced to port directx10 to xp eventually |
| 17:56.45 | xerawx | yea its pretty unrealistic to expect a newer OS to actually be faster but its just.. if you play any games, a 15-20% performance hit is just not something you're going to pay for.. even with an 8800 |
| 17:56.55 | fridg | fishbot2, i don't think so |
| 17:57.00 | Glorian | Image u cant play your favourite media because of the lack of an DRM certificate |
| 17:57.02 | xerawx | and even simple stuff like copying files is slower in vista |
| 17:57.04 | fishbot2 | well they've ported everything else ;p |
| 17:57.10 | xerawx | the whole os is riddled with overhead |
| 17:57.38 | fishbot2 | whole thing is a giant white elephant |
| 17:58.15 | xerawx | well you can use 4gb of ram.. but you'll need that much to make it usuable |
| 17:58.28 | xerawx | xp with 2gb is still faster |
| 17:58.33 | fridg | i only have 2 and it runs fine |
| 17:58.52 | fridg | xp's been out for like a decade, and is substantially more tweakable atm because people know it |
| 17:59.09 | fishbot2 | decade == 6 years |
| 17:59.24 | fridg | damn, decisions, whore my mom into buying me a wii or another lcd |
| 17:59.32 | fridg | vistas been out for a year? |
| 17:59.33 | Glorian | mircrosoft says vista was the last OS they coded |
| 17:59.43 | Glorian | because of the complexity |
| 17:59.51 | fishbot2 | Glorian: what about their windows 7 announcement? |
| 17:59.55 | Cartas | Wii, fridg. |
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| 18:00.05 | Glorian | fishbot2 everything on Vista base |
| 18:00.08 | fridg | but dualscreen :( |
| 18:00.17 | fishbot2 | so? |
| 18:00.17 | Cartas | It's not worth it, old chap. |
| 18:00.19 | fishbot2 | it's a new OS :p |
| 18:00.21 | xerawx | true, once vista has a couple SPs out and has been hacked down to its essential elements with DRM bypassed/disabled it will probably be fine |
| 18:00.25 | fridg | i think i will go for the wii, im like a giant giant metroid fan |
| 18:00.29 | fishbot2 | maybe it'll actually be useful |
| 18:00.34 | fridg | and metroid prime 3......! |
| 18:00.56 | Cartas | Metroid Prime 3 is Godly! |
| 18:01.00 | fridg | i've still had a few bluescreens with vista |
| 18:01.12 | fishbot2 | the DRM was all bypassed anyway by attacking the software players |
| 18:01.18 | fridg | and b/f i got my legal copy they were all license key releated so lol |
| 18:01.27 | fishbot2 | rather than attacking the multi-million MS protected content paths |
| 18:01.29 | fridg | but i've had wow crash it a few times |
| 18:02.11 | fishbot2 | I got it for free due also from MSDNAA |
| 18:02.11 | fridg | lunarsphere is the shit |
| 18:02.24 | fishbot2 | ATi refused to put out a vista driver for my laptop |
| 18:02.29 | fridg | gg |
| 18:02.32 | fishbot2 | so thats a no :p |
| 18:02.36 | fridg | ati sucks anyways xD |
| 18:02.43 | Glorian | I got a copy of linux in dual boot :) |
| 18:02.49 | fishbot2 | their drivers suck, their hardware is good |
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| 18:03.03 | Glorian | It is so fun with compiz :) |
| 18:03.08 | fridg | honestly, the second they come out with 8600gt drivers for osx86 i'm moving over to a hackintosh |
| 18:03.14 | fishbot2 | yeah, wow hangs the machine under wine for me due to an ati driver bug |
| 18:03.34 | fridg | i found out the other day they had a native linux client during beta |
| 18:03.40 | fridg | can you imagine if they had a linux client now |
| 18:03.42 | fridg | that'd be so cool |
| 18:03.47 | Elgrim | I got a problem with all mods reseting setings. |
| 18:03.56 | fishbot2 | yeah, they'd have 1000000 idiots posting on the forums 'PLZ I NEED HELP UNZIPPING WOW.TAR.GZ' |
| 18:04.02 | fridg | yup |
| 18:04.06 | Elgrim | Like some kind of mod setings memory problem |
| 18:04.15 | Elgrim | anyone know what could cause this? |
| 18:04.21 | fridg | plus the amount of support they'd have to do vs how many users would be so bad : // |
| 18:04.24 | Elgrim | Is it server or client side? |
| 18:04.28 | Ellipsis | client side |
| 18:04.34 | Ellipsis | did you delete your wtf dir? |
| 18:04.39 | fridg | rename it |
| 18:04.43 | Elgrim | no |
| 18:04.50 | fridg | deleting makes you cry in 2 hours when you wanted to save your xxxx |
| 18:05.00 | Elgrim | Ok here is what happend |
| 18:05.30 | Elgrim | Yesterday me and also my mate using many of the same mods both got a wow error message and the client shut down |
| 18:05.32 | Elgrim | same time |
| 18:05.51 | Ellipsis | if your client crashes, settings changed during that session will not be saved |
| 18:05.58 | Elgrim | after that about half of our mods were reset. both of us had the same mods reset, and same mods stayed configured |
| 18:06.11 | fishbot2 | it does flush out the savedvariables files every so often |
| 18:06.11 | Elgrim | No, those same setings had been used for many sessions |
| 18:06.49 | Ellipsis | was it just a one-time reset, or are they continuing to not stay saved? |
| 18:06.49 | Elgrim | And now. I properly shut down my client after playing a session, went to watch some tennis |
| 18:06.56 | Elgrim | and I come back, fire up just like normal |
| 18:06.57 | Elgrim | login |
| 18:07.00 | Elgrim | and ALL is reset. |
| 18:07.13 | Ellipsis | delete your saved variables completely and try again |
| 18:07.21 | fridg | yeah |
| 18:07.31 | Elgrim | hehe |
| 18:07.33 | fridg | if shit messes up like that its usually smart to just can everything |
| 18:07.34 | Elgrim | yep! |
| 18:07.36 | xerawx | they could just release the linux client as a "permanent beta" |
| 18:07.42 | Ellipsis | it's possible the client crash screwed up the files a bit |
| 18:07.46 | xerawx | kind of keep it underground and officially unsupported |
| 18:07.49 | fridg | i'd use it xerawx |
| 18:07.49 | Ellipsis | xerawx: but they'd still have to update it |
| 18:07.51 | Elgrim | strange tho |
| 18:07.56 | Elgrim | we both got the same error message |
| 18:07.58 | fridg | can you imagine the speed boost you would get |
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| 18:08.01 | Elgrim | and shut down at the same time |
| 18:08.09 | fridg | linux overhead is like 0.00005% of your cpu |
| 18:08.18 | fishbot2 | it's quite high actually |
| 18:08.20 | xerawx | well yea.. but they already maintain 2 clients |
| 18:08.27 | xerawx | already have opengl rendering |
| 18:08.28 | fishbot2 | there are far more abstraction layers than on windows |
| 18:08.45 | Elgrim | No chance of my old seting beeing saved anywere in some saved variables folder? |
| 18:08.49 | xerawx | and it's not like they're going broke |
| 18:09.18 | fridg | 9.2 million x 15$ / month |
| 18:09.35 | Ellipsis | Elgrim: if you're really lucky, the .baks will have something useful |
| 18:09.39 | Ellipsis | but I really doubt it |
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| 18:09.52 | Elgrim | ok shit |
| 18:09.54 | fishbot2 | doesnt matter if they're making billions, if the return on the investment isn't high enough they just won't do it |
| 18:10.08 | Elgrim | will take about 5-10 hours to get all my work back and my UI in order |
| 18:10.14 | Elgrim | :( |
| 18:10.51 | fridg | <Ellipsis> Elgrim: if you're really lucky, the .baks will have something useful |
| 18:10.55 | fishbot2 | I'd love a linux client, I could finally dump windows :( |
| 18:11.07 | fridg | i was gonna tell him to do this, but i figured he would ask 15 more questions about how, and im lazy |
| 18:11.14 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 18:11.31 | fridg | Elgrim, just nuke everything, and reconfigure |
| 18:11.37 | Elgrim | the SavedVariables.lua.bak has nothing for me |
| 18:11.37 | fridg | it'll save you headaches i promise |
| 18:11.51 | Elgrim | yea |
| 18:11.54 | fridg | take this opportunity to clear out old dead mods as well |
| 18:12.01 | fridg | like gmail xD |
| 18:12.03 | Elgrim | ehm |
| 18:12.14 | Elgrim | I did a total remake yesterday :P |
| 18:12.39 | fridg | oh, well your life sux >_> |
| 18:12.52 | Elgrim | aha hum |
| 18:13.04 | Elgrim | .bak files for every mod in the saved variables folder |
| 18:13.16 | Elgrim | *see some light at the end of the tunnel* |
| 18:13.31 | fridg | yeah |
| 18:13.46 | Elgrim | ok this is not promicing |
| 18:13.49 | fridg | but unless you script it, it'll take you like 3 hours depending on how many you have |
| 18:14.03 | Elgrim | opened the cowtip.lua.bak |
| 18:14.07 | Elgrim | and all it says |
| 18:14.07 | Elgrim | CowTipDB = nil |
| 18:14.09 | Elgrim | :(( |
| 18:14.26 | evl_ | AAAAAAGH |
| 18:14.31 | evl_ | why do people commit shit that doesn't work |
| 18:14.47 | fridg | it meant, CowTopDB = "Use TinyTip Instead"; |
| 18:15.11 | Elgrim | i changed from tiny to cowtip |
| 18:15.14 | Elgrim | 2 remakes ago |
| 18:15.14 | Elgrim | :P |
| 18:15.25 | fridg | blasphemer! |
| 18:15.43 | Elgrim | :P |
| 18:15.50 | Elgrim | i guess ill play standard for a while |
| 18:15.55 | Elgrim | but I got one question |
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| 18:16.03 | fridg | that'll last 5 minutes b/f you get pissed off lol |
| 18:16.44 | Elgrim | Bartender3 by default removes the blizzard bottom section thing. Anything I can do to use bartender? but still have blizzards bottom menu? |
| 18:16.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, enable the blizzard bar again |
| 18:17.02 | Gnarfoz | it's in the options |
| 18:17.06 | fridg | yeah |
| 18:17.12 | Elgrim | was searching |
| 18:17.17 | Elgrim | couldnt find |
| 18:17.28 | Elgrim | :( |
| 18:17.47 | Gnarfoz | <xerawx> well yea.. but they already maintain 2 clients <-- it's a pity, really, because back in the beta of wow, there *was* a linux client. :< |
| 18:17.47 | fishbot2 | hmm, that's a point, is there actually a way to display the standard blizzard lag bar only when using bartender? |
| 18:17.50 | fishbot2 | or a replacement mob :p |
| 18:17.52 | fishbot2 | mod* |
| 18:18.19 | fridg | Gnarfoz, i said that >_> |
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| 18:18.29 | Gnarfoz | fridg: happens, I'm raiding :< |
| 18:18.43 | fridg | update my dkp for me, kthx |
| 18:19.14 | Gnarfoz | no wai |
| 18:19.19 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r55302 10AlarArtRemover/AlarArtRemover.toc: |
| 18:19.19 | CIA-4 | AlarArtRemover |
| 18:19.19 | CIA-4 | Cleaned Build Management |
| 18:19.19 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r55303 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 18:19.19 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 18:19.20 | CIA-4 | - ZA update |
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| 18:19.26 | Elgrim | I cant seem to see any option for showing the blizzard bottom meny in Bartender3 |
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| 18:20.21 | Pkekyo | did you come to a conclusion on DirectX vs OpenGL yet? |
| 18:20.24 | xerawx | Gnarfoz: wouldn't surprise me if they still maintained an internal linux client just for the hell of it |
| 18:20.36 | fridg | Pkekyo, nobody was really arguing.... |
| 18:21.34 | Elgrim | Gnarfoz i would really like you to give me a hint. |
| 18:22.30 | CIA-4 | 03gamefaq * r55304 10Cartographer_Cleanup/ (Cartographer_Cleanup.toc Cleanup.lua): |
| 18:22.31 | CIA-4 | Cartographer_Cleanup: |
| 18:22.31 | CIA-4 | - Added deDE Local |
| 18:24.05 | Kaelten | I was pinged a while back |
| 18:24.15 | Kaelten | g'morning btw |
| 18:24.44 | xerawx | a suprising number of these badlands buzzards evidently are able to fly without wings >_> |
| 18:26.08 | Cartas | ... |
| 18:26.13 | Cartas | So is a broomstick, xerawx! |
| 18:26.26 | kenlyric | no, see you just hack them all to pieces. |
| 18:26.44 | Kaelten | pong |
| 18:27.11 | Gamefaq | hi Kealten |
| 18:27.23 | kenlyric | woot |
| 18:27.37 | Kaelten | :P |
| 18:27.37 | Gamefaq | ops |
| 18:27.55 | Gamefaq | Kaelten not Kealten -_- |
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| 18:28.33 | Elgrim | So. Its not possible to stop bartender3 from removing the bottom blizzard bar? |
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| 18:28.59 | Pkekyo | morning kaelten |
| 18:29.17 | Pkekyo | is files.wowace.com ever gonna stop throwing those annoying css errors? :p |
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| 18:32.58 | Gamefaq | 12 commits and he shows only one.... |
| 18:32.59 | kenlyric | oooh, i like that blizzard calls the guild banks "the *first* login protected section of the armory". |
| 18:33.13 | FireAllianceNX | Do I need MobHealth3 for Pitbull to show Mob Health? |
| 18:33.20 | Gamefaq | yes |
| 18:33.28 | FireAllianceNX | thanks ^^ |
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| 18:40.43 | Pkekyo | rofl, some guy in my guild managed to lock up his iphone somehow |
| 18:40.49 | Pkekyo | Ilol'd:) |
| 18:41.08 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: whyes? |
| 18:42.10 | kenlyric | first implies more. |
| 18:42.49 | Pkekyo | what more can they implement that's worth login protection? |
| 18:42.58 | Codayus | kenlyric: I think the second would be the gmotd? |
| 18:43.41 | kenlyric | http://www.wowarmory.com/faq-login.xml |
| 18:43.52 | Codayus | And the guild info, of course. |
| 18:44.50 | [dRaCo] | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/77569 <-- threat-1.0 za translation stuff |
| 18:45.06 | kenlyric | what's the new bar in aloft that's under the cast bar? |
| 18:45.16 | kenlyric | it doesn't seem to do anything. |
| 18:45.21 | thul | http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/44 |
| 18:45.30 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: I'm gonna guess threat |
| 18:46.12 | kenlyric | nope |
| 18:46.33 | Ellipsis | darn |
| 18:46.38 | Ellipsis | everyone's putting threat into things though :( |
| 18:46.49 | kenlyric | oh, threat is in there. Just not enabled. |
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| 18:49.19 | kenlyric | ug, stupid furbolgs are bugged again. REmind me to never do that quest again. |
| 18:50.16 | khang_ | which? |
| 18:50.35 | kenlyric | an aggressive defense. |
| 18:50.54 | kenlyric | each camp bugs out and all six mobs in and around it are stacked on top of each other and linked. |
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| 18:50.57 | xerawx | i figured that extra bar in aloft was a bug.. it goes away if you disable the cast bar |
| 18:51.13 | xerawx | it looks like a ghost of the blizz badge border |
| 18:51.16 | kenlyric | it looks like a holdover frame from the default bars |
| 18:51.58 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r55318 10AckisRecipeList/ (7 files): |
| 18:51.58 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:51.58 | CIA-4 | - Update to version 0.61 |
| 18:52.00 | xerawx | veee dont neeed no steeenkin blizz border badgers |
| 18:52.43 | FireAllianceNX | kenlyric: bring a 60 mage. lol |
| 18:53.32 | kenlyric | actually I was able to do it with a 24 mage, burn one down and hold them off with frost nova, reset, and repeat. |
| 18:53.42 | kenlyric | but my warrior is just failing. |
| 18:53.56 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r55319 10Mapster/Coords.lua: |
| 18:53.56 | CIA-4 | Mapster: Coords |
| 18:53.56 | CIA-4 | - show coords in a higher precision by default (will have option to change later) |
| 18:53.56 | CIA-4 | - some tweaks |
| 18:55.47 | FireAllianceNX | mmmm ace3 |
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| 18:56.46 | Polarina | Ace4 is better! |
| 18:56.54 | Polarina | A *LOT* better! |
| 18:57.04 | Ellipsis | no way |
| 18:57.09 | Ellipsis | Toothbrush is so the best addon framework |
| 18:57.25 | Polarina | Ellipsis: It is! Ace4 is the best. I checked. |
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| 18:57.48 | Ellipsis | no way Polarina |
| 18:57.51 | FireAllianceNX | mmmmm donut... uh |
| 18:57.52 | Ellipsis | you don't know aynthing, duh |
| 18:58.10 | Polarina | Ellipsis: I do! I traveled into the future. |
| 18:58.19 | Ellipsis | oh snap! |
| 18:58.42 | Polarina | Ellipsis: I even got a local copy of the Ace4 source code. |
| 18:58.48 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r55320 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 18:58.48 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 18:58.49 | CIA-4 | - ZA update |
| 18:58.50 | Ellipsis | can has? ;D |
| 19:00.11 | Polarina | Ellipsis: But there won't be any Ace5. The Ace API gets into the official (Blizzard's) WoW API. |
| 19:00.32 | Ellipsis | keep dreamin' |
| 19:00.48 | Cartas | Maybe Rock will, Polarina. |
| 19:01.00 | Polarina | Ellipsis: It's the truth! I traveled into the future!!! |
| 19:01.35 | Polarina | Blizzard has even released the third expansion pack and announced the fourth. |
| 19:02.14 | Cartas | I don't believe you, Polarina! |
| 19:02.31 | Polarina | Cartas: I can even give you the names of these two expansion packs. |
| 19:02.42 | Cartas | How did you get back here? Travelled backward in time? :p |
| 19:02.55 | Chompers | Cash Cow #1 and Cash Cow #2 |
| 19:02.58 | Polarina | Cartas: Yes. |
| 19:03.05 | Cartas | But then, wouldn't that mean people in the far future can travel backward in time? Wouldn't that mean people would've travelled to our time or before it? :o |
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| 19:03.16 | Cartas | Wouldn't we know of these people? |
| 19:04.04 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r55321 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:04.04 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:04.04 | CIA-4 | - Fixed Raid flag on Core Felcoth Bag and removed it from Runed Stygian Leggings |
| 19:06.08 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r55322 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:06.08 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:06.08 | CIA-4 | - Fix raid flag on Flarecore Wraps |
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| 19:09.31 | aestil | test. |
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| 19:11.55 | Smj | Cartas: No. |
| 19:12.10 | Cartas | Weisst nicht? |
| 19:12.18 | Smj | The visitors from the future wouldn't be allowed to break the temporal prime directive. |
| 19:13.16 | Cartas | lol |
| 19:13.26 | [Horde]Tricksy | man, it's a pain getting textures into eepanels :p |
| 19:14.13 | [Horde]Tricksy | my fault for doing something wrong with the textures though probably ^^ |
| 19:15.19 | Varazir[NA] | any plans for the autobar tracking getting the new tracking system ? |
| 19:18.27 | aestil | i don't know how to get texstures into eepanels either |
| 19:18.42 | aestil | Ellipsis, was supposed to help me with that, and then i didn't let her. |
| 19:19.46 | Lukian | With macros, can you still use mana % conditionals? |
| 19:20.33 | aestil | not if your macro is 'if % mana, then x' |
| 19:20.38 | aestil | i don't think you can do that anymore. |
| 19:20.51 | aestil | is there a SMV tourguide? |
| 19:21.11 | Fisker- | btw vhaarr |
| 19:21.13 | FireAllianceNX | lol |
| 19:21.25 | FireAllianceNX | SMV is a circle tour, follow the road ^^ |
| 19:21.52 | Lukian | how would you advise I map the usage of dark pact (mana from pet) to a macro button currently with a castsequence on it? |
| 19:22.42 | [Horde]Tricksy | [20:16] <aestil> i don't know how to get texstures into eepanels either> I know there are some prereqs like dimension being a multiple of 2 and things like that but I'm not managing yet either lol, think i'm gonna try and copy a tutorial from photoshop for it, see if i can get at least *some custom texture* in it :p |
| 19:23.10 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r55324 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:23.10 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:23.10 | CIA-4 | - Reorganized Tailoring database in preparation for adding vendor information |
| 19:23.10 | aestil | also has to be a tga. |
| 19:23.29 | [Horde]Tricksy | yeah ^^ |
| 19:23.52 | [Horde]Tricksy | not sure if there's a size limit on the file itself :S |
| 19:28.07 | aestil | is there a way to open up optiosn for tourguide |
| 19:28.26 | [Horde]Tricksy | ow hey, something that's been bugging me. Across my 8 alts I've unfortunately had a zillion times so far that I started setting up a random ace mod only to realize later that I forgot to set it to personal profile before doing so. Is there any way to save the settings you already did to some own profile instead of having to pick the personal one and see all your settings get nullified to do all over |
| 19:28.31 | [Horde]Tricksy | over again? :E |
| 19:30.27 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r55326 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:30.27 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:30.27 | CIA-4 | - More database reorganization |
| 19:30.27 | CIA-4 | 03mikk 07Beta * r55325 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/ (AceConfig-3.0.lua AceConfigCmd-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua): |
| 19:30.27 | CIA-4 | Ace3 - AceConfig: |
| 19:30.29 | CIA-4 | - Move chat command creation from AceConfig to AceConfigCmd:CreateChatCommand(). (AceConfig will call this on its own if we use the AceConfig shorthand) |
| 19:30.34 | CIA-4 | - VERY VERY simply help output added to AceConfigCmd |
| 19:30.36 | CIA-4 | - Get rid of hard dependency on AceConsole in AceConfigCmd. It is now only required if you use :CreateChatCommand, and then it's LoD. |
| 19:30.39 | CIA-4 | - ACE-60: Will now NOT support confirm in AceConfigCmd. |
| 19:31.01 | aestil | damn! no SMV tourguide. |
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| 19:32.17 | FireAllianceNX | ace 60 eh? :) |
| 19:32.19 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r55327 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 19:32.19 | CIA-4 | !AlarLib |
| 19:32.19 | CIA-4 | Fix: reset db error removed |
| 19:32.19 | CIA-4 | Feature: command injection redone |
| 19:32.19 | CIA-4 | Feature: New help function available |
| 19:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | FireAllianceNX: er, yes? it's a jira ticket number |
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| 19:34.31 | FireAllianceNX | I was making a funny about the earlier Ace 4 comment.... :( |
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| 19:43.10 | vircuser | evenin' all. anyone else had categories disappear from periodic table? as of updating this morning, i'm missing misc, and possible a couple of others... |
| 19:43.52 | Ellipsis | I'd guess they were removed since the new item categorizations cover that now |
| 19:43.54 | Kazie | Paladin DPS is like the female orgasm. Some claim it's a myth, many try to make it happen and have no idea how and most movies of it are fake. |
| 19:44.10 | Glorian | <- plays a pala |
| 19:44.14 | Kazie | same |
| 19:44.15 | Glorian | ... |
| 19:44.17 | nymbia | vircuser: where'd they disappear from |
| 19:44.38 | vircuser | ah, forgot to change my name again |
| 19:44.53 | Fisker- | i want conjured manna biscuits in pt3bar :( |
| 19:45.01 | DJNW | the entire category "misc" doesn't show up in pt3bar and pt3browser |
| 19:45.03 | nymbia | Fisker-: yeah me too |
| 19:45.32 | Fisker- | make it so |
| 19:45.34 | Fisker- | engage |
| 19:45.35 | Fisker- | etc. |
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| 19:45.40 | DJNW | or, well, misc.minipet and misc.hearthstone aren't showing up, anyhow |
| 19:46.02 | nymbia | DJNW: embedded or disembedded |
| 19:46.21 | DJNW | disembedded, I think |
| 19:46.56 | nymbia | DJNW: /dump IsAddOnLoaded('LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Misc') |
| 19:47.15 | DJNW | "nil" |
| 19:47.30 | nymbia | DJNW: how many sets does pt3browser say you have |
| 19:47.55 | Lukian | Ok, Which badmod addons, can: Completely rearrange the buttons without touching the server side layout |
| 19:48.12 | Ellipsis | FlexBar2 |
| 19:48.18 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r55330 10!AlarLib/: |
| 19:48.18 | CIA-4 | !AlarLib |
| 19:48.18 | CIA-4 | Log template added |
| 19:48.19 | Lukian | (I wish to edit a friends button layout so I can play their character for 2 weeks, but I want the buttons to not be changed when they login) |
| 19:48.30 | DJNW | hmm... just made a discovery - it's there in ACP, just not loaded. perhaps it's time to do away with load on demand... |
| 19:48.38 | Glorian | Lukian |
| 19:48.40 | Glorian | u can |
| 19:48.48 | Glorian | just backup his WTF folder |
| 19:48.52 | Ellipsis | no Glorian |
| 19:48.55 | Lukian | Buttons are server side |
| 19:48.56 | Ellipsis | action IDs are stored server-side |
| 19:49.00 | Glorian | aaah |
| 19:49.07 | nymbia | DJNW: PT3.1 should load them when they're requested by an addon |
| 19:49.09 | Ellipsis | Lukian: you might want to check out SimpleActionSets |
| 19:49.12 | Glorian | I am using Flexbar |
| 19:49.16 | Lukian | Glorian, and that would be "her" :P |
| 19:49.20 | Glorian | i think it is a little bit different |
| 19:49.40 | nymbia | DJNW: for example, do /dump LibStub('LibPeriodicTable-3.1'):GetSetTable( |
| 19:49.44 | nymbia | 'Misc') |
| 19:49.56 | nymbia | without the accidental newline ;) |
| 19:50.01 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r55331 10AlarAutomation/: |
| 19:50.01 | CIA-4 | AlarAutomation |
| 19:50.01 | CIA-4 | Log Template added |
| 19:50.31 | nymbia | that's a confusing addon |
| 19:50.52 | nymbia | my guess is that is has nothing to do with al'ar, but people will see the name and be like, boss mod |
| 19:51.02 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r55332 10AlarBGHelper/: |
| 19:51.02 | CIA-4 | AlarBGHelper |
| 19:51.02 | CIA-4 | Log Template added |
| 19:51.17 | Ellipsis | cool people name their addons after their internet handle |
| 19:51.23 | nymbia | well clearly |
| 19:51.30 | DJNW | my word, that's a lot of item ids... |
| 19:51.33 | Ellipsis | I mean seriously, you wouldn't want people to forget who wrote it? |
| 19:51.45 | nymbia | at least alarbghelper is less confusing |
| 19:51.52 | Ellipsis | ha |
| 19:51.56 | nymbia | unless al'ar is spawning in warsong now |
| 19:51.57 | Ellipsis | you clearly haven't looked at his code |
| 19:52.03 | nymbia | oh god |
| 19:52.07 | durcyn | cool people also insert retarded libraries with exclamation points |
| 19:52.09 | Ellipsis | you don't want to know |
| 19:52.12 | dylanm | That's what I thought |
| 19:52.23 | nymbia | durcyn: indeed |
| 19:52.23 | Arrowmaster | why must he make commits for just setting the tsvn:logtemplate property |
| 19:52.36 | dylanm | But no, it's just his name and alsoa library that wraps like every function |
| 19:52.45 | Ellipsis | very poorly, at that |
| 19:52.50 | nymbia | ....why? |
| 19:53.00 | Ellipsis | and he never actually asks for help or hangs out here so we can't even abuse him for it |
| 19:53.01 | Keias | Just for that, I hope they make a Nym'bia boss! |
| 19:53.13 | nymbia | that would be brutal |
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| 19:53.33 | nymbia | course my only addon named after me died a long time ago so it wouldnt be too bad |
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| 19:54.36 | Pkekyo | The ship of fail floats on a sea of excuses. |
| 19:54.39 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r55333 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc AlarTTFrameSnap.lua): |
| 19:54.39 | CIA-4 | AlarTTFrame |
| 19:54.39 | CIA-4 | Feature: Support for Pitbull and ag_unitframes |
| 19:54.59 | DJNW | apologies, I've had an attack of The Stupids - updating ate the config and I didn't drop my backup over the top.. |
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| 19:56.00 | Glorian | Hehe :) |
| 19:56.05 | Glorian | shit happens |
| 19:56.18 | nymbia | DJNW: note also that some of the set names for crap that was in Misc is slightly changed, so that may need attention |
| 19:56.23 | kenlyric | the Sea of Excuses has a lot of shit in it. |
| 19:56.42 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r55334 10AlarTTFrame/: |
| 19:56.42 | CIA-4 | AlarTTFrame |
| 19:56.42 | CIA-4 | Log Template added |
| 19:56.59 | Ellipsis | why couldn't he have done that in the last commit? |
| 19:57.17 | Ellipsis | this is why kids shouldn't be allowed to play with svn clients |
| 19:57.19 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 19:57.44 | Ellipsis | version control is not a toy. |
| 19:57.45 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 19:58.04 | Kuja^ | it isn't? |
| 19:58.09 | nymbia | i like that his commit messages just barely satisfy the server enforced requirements |
| 19:58.19 | nymbia | i'd be scared if he found the . trick |
| 19:58.25 | DJNW | oh, I don't know, you can get a lot of entertainment from people leaving their server publicly writeable |
| 19:58.27 | Ellipsis | oh god |
| 20:00.24 | Kuja^ | isn't the . trick stated in the svn rules? :P |
| 20:00.29 | Ellipsis | shhh |
| 20:00.37 | Ellipsis | don't tell alar that |
| 20:00.40 | Kuja^ | i guess i'll never need that anyways... |
| 20:01.00 | Kuja^ | Ellipsis: how should i tell him if he's not here? |
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| 20:02.12 | Kuja^ | besides of that, i not going to tell him, unless he offers some money for it, heh |
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| 20:13.57 | fishbot2 | hmm, does pitbull actually have a minimap icon? |
| 20:14.11 | fishbot2 | I've looked through the options about 5 times |
| 20:14.18 | Ominous | no |
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| 20:14.42 | fishbot2 | that would explain it |
| 20:14.43 | fishbot2 | cheers |
| 20:15.45 | sylvanaar | I guess it used to at one point |
| 20:16.52 | DJNW | fisker - manabiscuits are showing up in my pt3bar now... |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r55335 10AutoBar/ (4 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-4 | AutoBar : |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-4 | -- 2.03.00.30 beta () |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-4 | -- Prayer of Shadow Protection added to priest buff button |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-4 | -- Mechanical Yeti 15778 |
| 20:18.47 | CIA-4 | -- 16991 Triage Bandage |
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| 20:18.49 | CIA-4 | -- 24008 Dried Mushroom Rations |
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| 20:19.31 | dylanm | Priest buff button? Autboar? |
| 20:19.52 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r55336 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:19.52 | CIA-4 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 20:19.52 | CIA-4 | -- 24008 Dried Mushroom Rations |
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| 20:26.59 | grzesieq_ | any mac users around? |
| 20:27.17 | xerawx | < recovering mac user |
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| 20:27.44 | grzesieq_ | which means? :P |
| 20:27.55 | Civrock | < Mac User |
| 20:28.24 | grzesieq_ | have you noticed wow trying to take 200% cpu? |
| 20:28.33 | Civrock | Working as intended. |
| 20:28.37 | Civrock | If you have 2 CPUs. |
| 20:28.51 | grzesieq_ | well not really |
| 20:29.02 | xerawx | i've noticed wow only uses the first 2 cores of my quad |
| 20:29.11 | grzesieq_ | heats my mbp alot |
| 20:29.17 | xerawx | and if i manually set the affinity to all 4 it only uses the third |
| 20:29.18 | xerawx | o_O |
| 20:29.19 | Civrock | Cap your FPS. |
| 20:29.25 | CIA-4 | 03feithar * r55337 10SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.toc: |
| 20:29.25 | CIA-4 | SanityItemCache: |
| 20:29.25 | CIA-4 | - Fixed .toc to actually load the PeriodicTables libraries. TODO: Update to PT3.1. |
| 20:29.32 | Civrock | Don't think it supports more than 2 cores. |
| 20:29.46 | xerawx | apparently not.. though the patch notes say multi-core support |
| 20:29.50 | Lukian | Sanity needs guild bank support! XD |
| 20:29.54 | xerawx | which seems to imply more than 2 |
| 20:29.57 | Civrock | Multi means more than 1. ;) |
| 20:30.04 | xerawx | technically |
| 20:30.14 | xerawx | but they should say dual cores if that's all it supports |
| 20:30.16 | Civrock | It shouldn't need all 4 either way. |
| 20:30.26 | xerawx | it shouldn't *need* all 4 |
| 20:30.33 | xerawx | hell it doesnt even really need 2 |
| 20:30.48 | Civrock | Keyword is bottleneck. |
| 20:31.30 | xerawx | i imagine its a pretty big task to optimize for multi core after the fact |
| 20:31.43 | grzesieq_ | hm, caping fps isnt a solution, as its running at ~15 now :/ |
| 20:32.00 | xerawx | using vsync? |
| 20:32.03 | Civrock | Depends on your mods, videocard, location in-game, etc. |
| 20:32.06 | grzesieq_ | no |
| 20:32.40 | Civrock | If it's a new Macbook Pro, it should have pretty good performance. |
| 20:33.01 | Civrock | If it's PPC... your performance is as good as it gets. :P |
| 20:33.11 | xerawx | mbp are all intel |
| 20:33.16 | xerawx | powerbooks are ppc |
| 20:33.25 | Civrock | Right. |
| 20:33.29 | grzesieq_ | hm, it couldve been terrain distance |
| 20:33.38 | Civrock | Never set it to more than half. |
| 20:33.45 | grzesieq_ | was a bit under half |
| 20:33.47 | xerawx | make sure full screen glow is off |
| 20:33.58 | grzesieq_ | no glows, all details on lowest |
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| 20:34.14 | xerawx | i'd try everything on lowest setting and work up from there |
| 20:34.19 | Civrock | Videocard, RAM, latest updates for the OS and the videocard drivers? |
| 20:34.23 | xerawx | try lower res windowed mode even |
| 20:35.17 | Civrock | Never set it to a lower resolution than your monitors default. |
| 20:35.29 | xerawx | i used to play on a 12" powerbook 867 (technically below min requirements) |
| 20:35.37 | grzesieq_ | Civrock: windowed mode is different :) |
| 20:35.38 | xerawx | everything on lowest detail, it was barely playable |
| 20:35.44 | Civrock | Well, yeah. |
| 20:36.00 | grzesieq_ | problem is the overheating :/ |
| 20:36.42 | Civrock | Shouldn't be overheating if the performance is that bad, FPS-wise. Unless you don't have enough RAM or a weak videocard. |
| 20:36.46 | xerawx | lowering the rez can help determine if its a gpu or cpu bottleneck |
| 20:37.10 | xerawx | and the mac client won't let you switch to a mode your lcd can't display anyway |
| 20:37.13 | Civrock | CPU shouldn't be an issue for MBPs. |
| 20:37.17 | xerawx | it'll just look ugly |
| 20:37.29 | grzesieq_ | i suspect badly placed thermometers tbh |
| 20:37.45 | Civrock | Could always be a technical issue. |
| 20:37.54 | grzesieq_ | cause it should reduce the performance if the fans aren't enough, right? |
| 20:38.06 | Civrock | I'd read the stickies on the Mac Technical Support forum. |
| 20:38.31 | grzesieq_ | nothing helpful there |
| 20:38.41 | grzesieq_ | and can't ask either, no mac forums in eu |
| 20:38.55 | Civrock | Might just be RAM of the videocard. |
| 20:38.59 | Civrock | *or |
| 20:39.23 | Civrock | Or an excessive amount of badly programmed addons. :P |
| 20:39.36 | xerawx | how much ram? |
| 20:39.41 | grzesieq_ | 2gb |
| 20:39.50 | xerawx | and do you have anything weird like peerguarding / torrents etc open as well? |
| 20:39.54 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 20:40.04 | Antiarc | So, the second-lowest rank in my guild is "Guild Master" |
| 20:40.14 | Antiarc | Anyone that joins the guild and is then promoted 1 rank sees "Adrine has promoted Lulzalt to Guild Master." |
| 20:40.23 | Antiarc | We had an old member log on yesterday for the first time in a while |
| 20:40.29 | xerawx | 2gb should be plenty : \ |
| 20:40.39 | Antiarc | And he saw a bunch of people get promoted to "Guild Master", and freaked out and thought my account had been hacked. |
| 20:40.46 | Lukian | Antiarc, yeah it's a bug in RollCall which "refreshes" the ranks as you are editing them. |
| 20:40.52 | Lukian | It's quite annoying |
| 20:41.09 | Antiarc | Lukian: No, no |
| 20:41.10 | Antiarc | It's intentional |
| 20:41.21 | Antiarc | I set our second-lowest rank to "Guild Master" on purpose, a few months ago |
| 20:41.33 | Antiarc | So that we can invite random people and then promot them to "Guild MAster" and freak people out |
| 20:41.36 | Antiarc | It works rather well :D |
| 20:41.37 | Lukian | haha nice |
| 20:41.44 | Lukian | oh, well it's happening accidently now :P |
| 20:42.12 | Lukian | any rank you edit will refresh with the "Guild Master" rank name (and occasionally settings :/) |
| 20:42.37 | Antiarc | Yeah, I've noticed |
| 20:42.39 | Antiarc | Annoying as hell |
| 20:43.12 | Lukian | So, should I sleep or keep playing? |
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| 20:45.03 | Lukian | haha Mana Berries again |
| 20:45.08 | Lukian | <3 this daily, it's soo easy |
| 20:45.20 | grzesieq_ | 77 degrees on the cpu a monitor |
| 20:45.20 | grzesieq_ | 70 degrees on gpu heatsink |
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| 20:46.37 | Ellipsis | yeah I just got Mana Berries today for the first time |
| 20:46.41 | Ellipsis | way easier than the others |
| 20:47.00 | nevcairiel | i got clefthoof meat today |
| 20:47.05 | nevcairiel | at least not far to travel |
| 20:47.33 | Lukian | I already have about 50 of that cooked up from old stock |
| 20:47.38 | Lukian | so that one is easy as pie too :) |
| 20:47.42 | CIA-4 | 03sorren * r55338 10CooldownTimers2/ (CooldownTimers2.lua Menu.lua): |
| 20:47.42 | CIA-4 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 20:47.42 | CIA-4 | - Fixed a bunch of nil errors |
| 20:48.16 | xerawx | grzesieq_: *C? |
| 20:48.23 | grzesieq_ | yes |
| 20:48.44 | aestil | can you do something like /cast kill comand /stopcasting /cast steady shot |
| 20:48.45 | xerawx | i guess for a laptop |
| 20:48.46 | aestil | ? |
| 20:48.55 | grzesieq_ | yes, a macbook pro |
| 20:49.11 | xerawx | my quad never hits 50 *C and it's passively cooled |
| 20:49.15 | Ellipsis | aestil: is kill command an instant cast that doesn't trigger GCD? |
| 20:49.19 | aestil | yes. |
| 20:49.22 | Ellipsis | then sure |
| 20:49.36 | xerawx | 8800 gts gets up to around 65 *C under load |
| 20:50.23 | xerawx | on of the best things i found on my 12" for reducing temps was boot off a firewire external hdd and plug into an external display |
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| 20:50.44 | Ellipsis | pfft, my latop gets way hotter than that |
| 20:52.14 | xerawx | my g4 was around 60 playing wow off internal disk.. dropped 10* playing off external |
| 20:52.31 | xerawx | and much faster load times |
| 20:53.05 | Ellipsis | mine generates more heat from the GPU than anything else |
| 20:53.51 | xerawx | yeah, well mine too but its a 12".. and the whole chassis is basically a heat sink so turning off the hdd made it a lot easier to cool the gpu |
| 20:54.29 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 20:54.40 | Pkekyo | should the warrior tank the bear or troll form of the first boss in Zul'aman? (offtank is a pala) |
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| 20:55.26 | Xinhuan | doesn't really matter |
| 20:55.34 | Xinhuan | either way, a taunt resist is usuallya wipe |
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| 20:56.11 | xerawx | stone form ftw? |
| 20:56.20 | Pkekyo | I'm a cow >.< |
| 20:58.00 | Ellipsis | sorry, I don't have any of THAT kind |
| 20:58.16 | Pkekyo | ph4il |
| 20:58.19 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 20:58.23 | Ellipsis | drugs r bad, mmkay? |
| 20:58.38 | Pkekyo | mmmkay |
| 20:59.35 | xerawx | gogo stoned form |
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| 21:00.11 | Pkekyo | agreeed |
| 21:00.58 | Pkekyo | N|Landolphthat name: |
| 21:00.58 | Pkekyo | N|Landolphhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dethecus&n=%C3%90%C3%A6m%C3%B5%C3%B1%C3%AF%C3%A7%C3%A1 |
| 21:02.00 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r55339 10Mapster/ (Coords.lua Mapster.lua): Mapster: add a callback system, and a callback when the map moves to refresh the position in the coord module |
| 21:02.56 | sb | nevcairiel: mhh, ETA till ace3 trunk? |
| 21:03.04 | CIA-4 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r55340 10ag_UnitFrames/ (7 files in 5 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Fix errors in powerbar module, Add sliders to control bar height |
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| 21:03.50 | Fisker- | no wonder he's arms |
| 21:03.57 | Fisker- | noone can invite him to a group for tanking |
| 21:04.13 | nevcairiel | sb: dunno, a few weeks, we still need to iron out the small glitches and get documentation up |
| 21:04.14 | Pkekyo | rofl, indeed |
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| 21:07.58 | dylanm | nevcairiel: What's mapster? |
| 21:08.27 | charon | evening |
| 21:09.28 | nevcairiel | a map mod |
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| 21:10.38 | dylanm | -.- |
| 21:11.59 | xerawx | it does for maps what napster did for naps |
| 21:12.20 | Tain | It makes Metallica mad? |
| 21:13.10 | kenlyric | man, nicely timed, I get to watch the end of four close games. |
| 21:15.47 | Azurewrath | mhm.. is it normal at Illidari Council that the Mage recasts his Dampen Magic after about one minute? Makes tanking absolutely trivial.. |
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| 21:22.51 | nevcairiel | ever seen a bird with a rocket engine? no? then click http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_111807_221421.jpg :P |
| 21:23.07 | CIA-4 | 03feithar * r55341 10SanityItemCache/ (Libs/ SanityItemCache.toc SanityItemCacheFilters.lua): |
| 21:23.07 | CIA-4 | SanityItemCache: |
| 21:23.07 | CIA-4 | - Updated to use LibPeriodicTable-3.1 |
| 21:24.09 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: wtf |
| 21:24.12 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 21:24.14 | Antiarc | Frostbolt |
| 21:24.17 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 21:24.21 | RaydenUni | this makes me happy |
| 21:24.37 | nevcairiel | if you time it right, they have the exact same speed as you |
| 21:24.37 | RaydenUni | i found an account for the airport's free wireless internet and the account was (bugmenot, bugmenot) |
| 21:25.26 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 21:26.16 | RaydenUni | i have found this once before |
| 21:26.24 | RaydenUni | so score 2 for the internet |
| 21:26.58 | RaydenUni | now i have to figure out what to do on the internet for a half hour |
| 21:27.19 | RaydenUni | guess i could log on and do something |
| 21:27.33 | Azurewrath | no Mage with Illidari Council Experience around? |
| 21:27.52 | Matrix110 | experience with tanking? |
| 21:28.03 | Matrix110 | i tanked them today the first time but that isnt really experience:P |
| 21:28.07 | nevcairiel | i'm no mage, but i have a good general knowledge about all fights we've beaten |
| 21:28.11 | Matrix110 | i didnt die though |
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| 21:28.15 | Matrix110 | mt did |
| 21:28.16 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 21:28.18 | Matrix110 | and all others |
| 21:29.09 | Matrix110 | just get the best mix of hit/sta gear you can get have a Ele Shammy in your group and its fine |
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| 21:30.37 | nevcairiel | ya max hit is a must |
| 21:30.51 | nevcairiel | specced hit in arcane too, generally |
| 21:31.17 | Matrix110 | every mage should have atleast 3 points in it |
| 21:32.07 | Ozguli | I'll ask you too |
| 21:32.18 | Ozguli | tips how to pve tank as a priest? |
| 21:32.27 | nevcairiel | dont |
| 21:32.50 | Ozguli | But I want to. |
| 21:33.19 | CIA-4 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r55342 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: combat check |
| 21:33.24 | Ozguli | hmm... +defence rating cloth must be hard to find |
| 21:33.49 | Ozguli | stam obviously, and shadow dmg for threat? |
| 21:34.03 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: is there a feature list of mapster? |
| 21:34.11 | charon | Ozguli: why defence if you can become crit immune with resilience |
| 21:34.13 | kenlyric | why does ark inventory hate mys stance switching? |
| 21:34.26 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: depends what you want, current or planned? |
| 21:34.33 | Ozguli | charon defence for dodge? |
| 21:34.34 | Ozguli | etc |
| 21:34.35 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: both if possible :) |
| 21:34.59 | nevcairiel | current is easy, resizes map to scale 0.75 and displays coordinates |
| 21:35.02 | nevcairiel | planned is a blur |
| 21:35.08 | charon | Ozguli: you can't block and i doubt you can parry |
| 21:35.16 | Ozguli | mmm. |
| 21:35.53 | charon | so there's only dodge and miss. probably not worth the stam you lose by socketing for it |
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| 21:37.37 | CIA-4 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r55343 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Added missing locales |
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| 21:38.09 | Gnarfoz | ~seen roartindon |
| 21:38.18 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-107-11.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 21h 6m ago, saying: 'Orionshock: Thaddius :P'. |
| 21:38.21 | Lukian | Anyone mind taking a look at a warlock macro I wrote (and maybe help tidy it up?) |
| 21:38.38 | Azurewrath | Matrix110: is it normal at Illidari Council that the Mage recasts his Dampen Magic after about one minute? Makes tanking absolutely trivial.. |
| 21:38.46 | Ellipsis | I'll bite, pastey it Lukian |
| 21:39.00 | Matrix110 | uhm Azurewrath i dont know if he does it always but he did that for me aswell |
| 21:39.01 | nevcairiel | tanking the mage is trivial |
| 21:39.04 | nevcairiel | thats not the issue |
| 21:39.04 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 21:39.05 | Matrix110 | its basically just the pull |
| 21:39.15 | Gnarfoz | anyone know their way around Aloft's code? |
| 21:39.22 | Gnarfoz | it's not hiding the blizzard nameplate castbars anymore |
| 21:39.22 | nevcairiel | the issue on council generally is keeping the raid alive |
| 21:39.26 | nevcairiel | and the paladin tank |
| 21:39.27 | Gnarfoz | but still displaying it's own ones |
| 21:39.27 | nevcairiel | thats all |
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| 21:39.46 | Matrix110 | btw |
| 21:39.50 | charon | Ozguli: if you manage to pull that off, make a video please... i'm a furry tank and i'm rather envious of Lithanial's moonkin tanking vid |
| 21:39.51 | Matrix110 | is the mage dmg resistable? |
| 21:39.52 | Stanzilla | whole BT is about keeping the raid alive ^^ |
| 21:40.08 | Azurewrath | mhm jup ok.. i was only asking because i heard about 99% hit for arcane needed.. 15k life minimum.. blabla.. and now i see that tanking the mage seems to be a joke.. |
| 21:40.18 | nevcairiel | ya well some fights take a bit more |
| 21:40.18 | Matrix110 | didnt resist anything with my insane 51AR so i dunno |
| 21:40.22 | nevcairiel | council really is easy, imho |
| 21:40.55 | Matrix110 | beat our Mother Shahraz 1st kill: http://i1.tinypic.com/7yqb31k.jpg |
| 21:41.21 | Azurewrath | haha |
| 21:41.54 | Fisker- | aha Matrix110 |
| 21:42.05 | Fisker- | without patch 2.3 that paladin would only have hit for like 600 |
| 21:42.07 | Fisker- | and you would've wiped |
| 21:42.09 | Fisker- | also |
| 21:42.12 | Fisker- | what addon is that? |
| 21:42.16 | Gnarfoz | recount |
| 21:42.17 | Matrix110 | Recount |
| 21:42.21 | Matrix110 | nooblet |
| 21:42.22 | Gnarfoz | fail |
| 21:42.23 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 21:42.28 | Gnarfoz | so, who can fix Aloft? :< |
| 21:42.37 | Fisker- | wow |
| 21:42.46 | Fisker- | recount sure matured then |
| 21:42.59 | Fisker- | also |
| 21:43.02 | Fisker- | why is she a mother? |
| 21:43.08 | Gnarfoz | she's your mom |
| 21:43.14 | Fisker- | OH SNAP |
| 21:43.18 | Grum | Can i with any way see which addon is sending certain addon messages across the 'raid' channel ? |
| 21:43.24 | Azurewrath | shes a whorehouse-mother :p |
| 21:43.39 | Antiarc | Grum: Not without diving into source |
| 21:43.48 | Fisker- | anyone know when guild bank deposits get updated? |
| 21:43.49 | Grum | i have a 'weird' tag |
| 21:43.56 | Grum | and if i look @ prat-addon messages |
| 21:44.00 | Fisker- | i've had zero withdrawals available for like 2 days now |
| 21:44.01 | Grum | i am SPAMMING it like madness |
| 21:44.11 | Grum | like i am iterating over a numbered list orso O>o |
| 21:44.39 | Grum | prat tells me the 'tag' is 'k?' orso |
| 21:44.41 | Fisker- | madness? |
| 21:44.45 | Fisker- | moar like SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 21:44.52 | Grum | yes 300 messages per minute O.o |
| 21:44.59 | Gnarfoz | SATAAAA :< |
| 21:45.43 | sylvanaar | its probably like dottimer or something |
| 21:46.24 | Fisker- | oh hai sylvanaar |
| 21:46.47 | sylvanaar | hai Fisker- |
| 21:46.59 | Fisker- | i'm the lynch to your kane |
| 21:47.17 | sylvanaar | sounds kinky |
| 21:47.23 | Fisker- | actually |
| 21:47.26 | Fisker- | kane is a mercenary |
| 21:47.33 | Fisker- | and i'm a psychotic mass murderer |
| 21:47.45 | Fisker- | also i ran out of pills |
| 21:47.47 | Grum | can i easily see which addon is using a certain tag? |
| 21:47.53 | Grum | 'k' for example :) |
| 21:48.00 | sylvanaar | ok - now it sounds like euro-kink |
| 21:48.07 | Jaliborc | Antiarc: Hi, can you help me with Bongos Skinned Map and Omen? I have 1 more clue. |
| 21:48.09 | Grum | reloadui 'fixed' it a bit |
| 21:48.16 | Antiarc | Sure, what'd you find? |
| 21:49.13 | Jaliborc | Some users told me that it is also interfering with KHTM |
| 21:49.29 | Jaliborc | "KTM" |
| 21:49.36 | Antiarc | Interesting. |
| 21:49.43 | kenlyric | ArkInventory-2.11\ArkInventory.lua:7800: invalid location id: nil |
| 21:49.53 | Antiarc | I peeked through the source at one point, but I didn't see anything incriminating |
| 21:50.19 | Jaliborc | Maybe it is interfering with a library shared by Omen and KTM |
| 21:50.32 | Antiarc | Omen and KTM share no libraries |
| 21:50.35 | Paradox_ | is there an ace addon where you can like, type the name of a frame, and resize it, drag it around and stuff like that? and it will save when you log out and back in? preferibly possible to move the tooltip aswell |
| 21:50.37 | Antiarc | KTM is entirely proprietary |
| 21:50.55 | Jaliborc | They don't share Threat-1? |
| 21:51.09 | Belazor | KTM is like Windows, everybody uses it even though it sucks :P |
| 21:51.17 | Jaliborc | Lol |
| 21:51.17 | aestil | who uses KTM? |
| 21:51.19 | Antiarc | No, Threat-1.0 was written to replace KTM |
| 21:51.25 | Jaliborc | Not me ;) |
| 21:51.26 | aestil | no good guild on my server. |
| 21:51.31 | Antiarc | Because KTM is a rather...inconsiderate resource hog |
| 21:51.42 | Belazor | I got my guild to swap, and I cringe every time I join a pug :P |
| 21:51.57 | Matrix110 | just l2play and dont use Threatmeters:P |
| 21:52.11 | Belazor | Try playing a fire mage then saying that XD |
| 21:52.13 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: Visor2 |
| 21:52.15 | Fisker- | is ktm still maintained? |
| 21:52.17 | Jaliborc | oh, I didn't know |
| 21:52.24 | Matrix110 | <---mage |
| 21:52.30 | Azurewrath | Threat-1.0/Omen is pretty widespread on Kargath EU.. at least in the most guilds |
| 21:52.30 | Belazor | bs XD |
| 21:52.38 | Antiarc | I don't know if KTM is still being maintained |
| 21:52.39 | Jaliborc | now it is even more strange |
| 21:52.45 | Antiarc | It has not been updated for the 2.3 threat changes yet |
| 21:53.00 | Belazor | good, let it die I say |
| 21:53.08 | aestil | antiarc, you ready for all the work 2.4 will bring? |
| 21:53.15 | Antiarc | heh, no |
| 21:53.16 | Jaliborc | see here http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/8805/#comment_306306, Moatu post |
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| 21:53.19 | Antiarc | But it'll need to be done |
| 21:53.29 | Paradox_ | says it's outdated Ellipsis |
| 21:53.30 | aestil | won't the combat log change completley alter all mods using a parser? |
| 21:53.38 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: "load out of date addons" |
| 21:54.01 | Antiarc | Hrm |
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| 21:54.14 | Antiarc | This bug only prevent me from seeing threat from certain other people, yes? |
| 21:54.35 | Jaliborc | I think so |
| 21:54.46 | Antiarc | I'll look through the source again and see if I can find anything |
| 21:54.50 | Antiarc | This is one seriously weird bug |
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| 21:55.06 | Jaliborc | yes it is :x |
| 21:55.14 | Antiarc | Bongos2_MapBar is the right one? |
| 21:55.45 | Jaliborc | yes, but it must to be the "alternative" version |
| 21:56.02 | Antiarc | Ooh. The "normal" version doesn't produce this bug? |
| 21:56.05 | Orionshock | well i need a new addon now. Autobar has groan into a mess of an addon, need something simpler. just for my health/mana pots, food, potions, |
| 21:56.07 | Antiarc | That may help us track it down |
| 21:56.11 | Paradox_ | there's nothing else Ellipsis ? |
| 21:56.22 | Jaliborc | the tuller version doesn't |
| 21:56.42 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: probably, but what's wrong with Visor2? |
| 21:56.55 | Antiarc | okay, that's a great starting point then |
| 21:57.24 | Paradox_ | I don't wanna move frames around by typing it all |
| 21:57.32 | Ellipsis | then get Visor2GUI |
| 21:57.40 | DJNW | orionshock: as long as you're okay with editing a config file occasionally and keeping a backup for when it update, pt3bar is very simple |
| 21:57.42 | Antiarc | What's REALLY bizarre is that you can see some people, but not all of them. |
| 21:58.11 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: drag the items you want onto bars, that's about as simple as it gets ;D |
| 21:58.20 | Paradox_ | I don't want another addon to give it a gui -_- |
| 21:58.32 | Paradox_ | i'm trying to limit the amount of addons im using not get more! |
| 21:58.42 | Jaliborc | the bug was reported for the first time 73 ago |
| 21:58.43 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: you don't want something that runs from slash commands, but you don't want a GUI? |
| 21:58.46 | Jaliborc | let me think.. |
| 21:58.53 | Ellipsis | please tell me what exactly you *do* want, because I'm confused |
| 21:59.06 | nymbia | neural interface |
| 21:59.08 | Paradox_ | something with a gui, in the same addon? |
| 21:59.16 | Paradox_ | it's not hard to understand really o_O |
| 21:59.19 | Ellipsis | wtf difference does it make if it's two folders or one? |
| 21:59.23 | ag` | does it matter if it's in the same addon? |
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| 21:59.43 | ag` | 2 500kb addons = 1 1000kb addon |
| 21:59.44 | Jaliborc | it was reported in 30 september |
| 21:59.44 | Ellipsis | you can always delete the GUI one after you get the frame set up how you like |
| 22:00.07 | Ellipsis | just think how much wasted space that whole chunk of the addon would be taking up if it were all in one! |
| 22:00.28 | DJNW | that's what ACP is for - load the config, mess ablout disable it, then reload. |
| 22:00.36 | Paradox_ | because if I wanted to move a tiny thing i'd have to get the gui allover again |
| 22:00.43 | Ellipsis | then keep the gui |
| 22:00.46 | Paradox_ | I just want something better than MoveAnything that works just like it |
| 22:00.51 | Paradox_ | in -one- addon |
| 22:01.00 | Jaliborc | 6 september |
| 22:01.01 | Ellipsis | ...you want something that's *just like it* but *better*? |
| 22:01.14 | Ellipsis | you're really not explaining yourself well |
| 22:01.22 | Jaliborc | and the 6 september version was 4.1 |
| 22:01.32 | Stanzilla | install an addon => be able to move all frames around without configuration |
| 22:01.34 | Stanzilla | = win |
| 22:01.49 | Ellipsis | I want something that's just like my UI only better |
| 22:01.51 | Ellipsis | plz help |
| 22:02.09 | Ozguli | where'd charon go... |
| 22:02.18 | Jaliborc | in the vesrion 4.1 I added tabbed menu |
| 22:02.18 | Jaliborc | and made minimap buttons movable |
| 22:02.24 | Ozguli | anyway I'm only lvl 48 so far on my priest so have to gear up before tanking seriously |
| 22:02.37 | Ellipsis | did I read that wrong? |
| 22:02.44 | Jaliborc | I think we can start by looking at the menu and buttons code |
| 22:02.49 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: no, you didn't |
| 22:02.51 | Antiarc | See, what's puzzling is that -none- of this has anything to do with Threat or Omen's functionality |
| 22:03.02 | Ellipsis | ...?? |
| 22:03.11 | Jaliborc | ??? |
| 22:03.30 | Ellipsis | priest...gear up...tanking seriously? |
| 22:03.36 | Xinhuan | probably a shared global var being used lol |
| 22:03.38 | Ellipsis | does not compute |
| 22:03.42 | Antiarc | Well, I don't know |
| 22:03.49 | Antiarc | Both this code and Threat/Omen are really good about locals |
| 22:04.07 | Antiarc | That's what I'd have suspected, too, if everything wasn't namespaced. |
| 22:04.59 | Jaliborc | probably it's an bongos skinned map bug, but I only used 1 more global "BONGOS_EXTENDED" |
| 22:05.10 | Jaliborc | "a bongos ..." |
| 22:05.43 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: you should be able to use the new /console taintLog 2 to find any non locals in either addon |
| 22:05.50 | Antiarc | Ooh. |
| 22:05.53 | Antiarc | That's a great idea. |
| 22:05.55 | Ellipsis | it's a dirty hack, but it works |
| 22:06.00 | felirx | by the way Antiarc, did you happen to find anything wrong regargind fanaticism. The .5 was still not accounting it for me. |
| 22:06.19 | Antiarc | felirx: I didn't have a chance to test it. I'll do that while I try to track this bug down. |
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| 22:07.31 | Pkekyo | fucksake, nalorakk bugged for my guild >.< |
| 22:08.15 | Tuller | Jaliborc: I have a request for the addon :) |
| 22:08.22 | Tuller | Jaliborc: can you not call it Bongos_MapBar? :) |
| 22:08.27 | kenlyric | is bulkmail broken? |
| 22:08.30 | Jaliborc | Ok, why? |
| 22:08.43 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, probably |
| 22:08.48 | Tuller | it'll make things more easily debugged |
| 22:08.50 | Antiarc | Tuller: I think the idea is that it replaces the base functionality |
| 22:09.02 | kenlyric | it's not sending any tradeskill.mat.ByType |
| 22:09.16 | Jaliborc | Sure, I almost finished version 6. I will rename it. |
| 22:09.18 | Antiarc | Okay, I have Bongos, Bongos Skinned Map, and Omen installed |
| 22:09.24 | kenlyric | oooh, maybe PT conversion thin... |
| 22:09.25 | Antiarc | Lemme see if I can track this down now. |
| 22:09.27 | hyperChipmunk | it got moved to pt3 overnight, i heard |
| 22:09.29 | hyperChipmunk | 31 |
| 22:09.39 | hyperChipmunk | may have to redefine your pt sets |
| 22:09.43 | kenlyric | curses! |
| 22:09.43 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, possibly its due to the itemtype changes, and Pt3->pt3.1 change |
| 22:09.52 | Tuller | you're going to have to tell users to disable the old one, though you can also possibly disable it on load, hrm... |
| 22:09.56 | Antiarc | Jaliborc: Well, I just got an error when I loaded i up |
| 22:10.09 | Ellipsis | bulkmail is...mostly working for me |
| 22:10.09 | Antiarc | config.lua:213: attempt to index local "button" (nil) |
| 22:10.13 | Livid` | Anyone know if MrPlow is gonna be updated to handle guildbanks aswell as the standard banks ? |
| 22:10.19 | Ellipsis | then again I did hack it to fail silently without PT |
| 22:10.21 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 22:10.44 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: I found another BM2I bug btw |
| 22:11.04 | Jaliborc | that's because bongos skinned map wasn't updated yet |
| 22:11.06 | Stanzilla | the normal "send" button does not work anymore when you have BM2 installed.. |
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| 22:11.19 | Ellipsis | if you have sale pending mails in your inbox and do a take all, it never "finishes" the take all, so when you go back to the mailbox later it continues taking things o.O |
| 22:11.20 | Jaliborc | i'm finishing the new version today |
| 22:11.23 | Antiarc | Ah, okay |
| 22:11.30 | Antiarc | Could you send me a zip or something so I can debug? |
| 22:11.42 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't exactly recommend "auto-sorting" the guildbank, since its a shared bank and not everyone uses addons to view it |
| 22:12.10 | nymbia | Antiarc: trying to find globals? |
| 22:12.19 | Antiarc | nymbia: Among other things |
| 22:12.47 | nymbia | Antiarc: luac -l file.lua |
| 22:13.09 | Antiarc | I'm getting a bunch of things like this: |
| 22:13.09 | nymbia | Antiarc: pipe that through grep for SETGLOBAL |
| 22:13.10 | Antiarc | Execution tainted by Bongos2 while reading SLASH_BONGOS3 - getglobal() |
| 22:13.26 | Antiarc | nymbia: Heh, that seems a bit too obvious. Wonder why I didn't think of it before. :) |
| 22:13.28 | Antiarc | Thanks for the tip. |
| 22:13.32 | Livid` | Xinhuan : well with it being tabbed i dont think it really makes that much diff ? |
| 22:13.35 | nymbia | Antiarc: :) |
| 22:14.09 | Jaliborc | sending... |
| 22:14.31 | Xinhuan | well the tabs are there to define withdraw/deposit rules/limits |
| 22:14.33 | CIA-4 | 03ragnorok * r55350 10SCT_Cooldowns/Core.lua: |
| 22:14.33 | CIA-4 | SCT_Cooldowns: |
| 22:14.33 | CIA-4 | -Bumped version. |
| 22:14.57 | Jaliborc | in the "simple.lua" file, there is some testing code. do not enable it |
| 22:15.05 | Antiarc | okay. |
| 22:15.10 | Tuller | Antiarc: what is screwing up in omen? |
| 22:15.27 | Jaliborc | my mod is interfering |
| 22:15.35 | Tuller | well, in what way? :) |
| 22:15.37 | Antiarc | Tuller: Something about Jaliborc's modified skinned map bar apparently prevents some (not all) people from showing on Omen's display |
| 22:15.47 | Xinhuan | you might have [netherweave cloth] in tab 1, and more [netherweave cloth] in tab 4 of the guildbank, but you may not want to merge them together |
| 22:15.57 | Xinhuan | since the [netherweave cloth] in tab 1 and tab 4 might be used/stored for different purposes |
| 22:16.00 | Livid` | i mean on a per tab basis |
| 22:16.00 | Antiarc | Disabling the skinned map mod causes things to right themselves |
| 22:16.03 | Tuller | Antiarc: is omen's display a UI panel or something? |
| 22:16.05 | Livid` | not a global resort |
| 22:16.12 | Antiarc | No, it's standalone |
| 22:16.22 | Antiarc | There's nothing in the map mod code that should affect it |
| 22:16.33 | Antiarc | My best guess is a variable collision, but both mods are good about namespaces and locals |
| 22:16.37 | Livid` | we have 3 tabs ( yes i am a cheapskate ) and we use 2 for stuff we dont give guildies access to withdraw and one for public access |
| 22:16.37 | Xinhuan | just a personal opinion though, Livid`, i do not believe a shared bank should be sorted by addons |
| 22:16.45 | xerawx | i've noticed since 2.3 omen is the only addon that seems to 'forget' its attach to minimap setting |
| 22:16.54 | Xinhuan | imagine 3 people with deposit access to it, and each one tries to sort the guildbank |
| 22:16.56 | xerawx | it randomly moves from fubar to the map |
| 22:17.00 | Xinhuan | to his liking |
| 22:17.09 | Livid` | i know what your saying, i'm just lazy :) |
| 22:17.14 | Xinhuan | to every other member that sees it, it'll just be a mess |
| 22:17.22 | Livid` | well i dno |
| 22:17.26 | dezzi | Your mission should you choose to accept it |
| 22:17.31 | dezzi | Hack teh gibson. |
| 22:17.32 | Livid` | cause the tabs appear the same to everyone if they have access ? |
| 22:17.34 | Antiarc | Jaliborc: Did you send me an email, or...? |
| 22:17.46 | Jaliborc | yes, 2 days ago |
| 22:17.49 | Xinhuan | well lets say member A wants to sort itemA before itemB |
| 22:17.52 | Livid` | i.e same amount of rows / collumns and if its being sorted per tab it should look the same ? |
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| 22:18.00 | Xinhuan | and member B wants to sort the other way around or some other rule |
| 22:18.03 | Antiarc | Jaliborc: I mean with the new version of the mod |
| 22:18.12 | Antiarc | Nothing is coming through |
| 22:18.19 | Xinhuan | i dont' want to visit the guildbank and see that its resorted by 2 or more people everyday |
| 22:18.23 | Jaliborc | I sent it |
| 22:18.24 | Livid` | i'd beat b around the head with a stick with large rusty nails in :) |
| 22:18.32 | Livid` | i know what your saying |
| 22:18.32 | Antiarc | Hm. May just be clogged up then. |
| 22:18.49 | Jaliborc | sent again |
| 22:19.19 | Tuller | ListCount = ListCount + 1 |
| 22:19.20 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, "winter of our dissed content" i love writers. |
| 22:19.25 | kenlyric | sorting should be done clientside. |
| 22:19.31 | Tuller | hrm, no that's local :P |
| 22:19.38 | kenlyric | like arkinv or baggins |
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| 22:21.38 | Mezir | Hello, I've got some problems porting my interface to another char o.o |
| 22:21.39 | Mezir | I wanted to use my Mages(x) UI ony my Shaman Twink(y), so I copied my mage folder and renamed it to my shamans name, |
| 22:21.39 | Mezir | and i use nearly the same addons (except for some cartographer things which aint important) but the interface is not as i wanted it o.o |
| 22:21.39 | Mezir | did you understand me? Sorry for my bad english o.o |
| 22:21.40 | Xinhuan | yah but mrplow isn't a local sort display |
| 22:23.23 | Jaliborc | tuller: let me send you the new version too (not yet finished) |
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| 22:23.34 | Pkekyo | "Point Of View GeForce 8800 GTS" is it just me, or does that sound REALLY shitty? |
| 22:23.57 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/taint-globals.txt <-- there's the globals cross-section between the two mods |
| 22:23.59 | DJNW | mezir - you'd probably have to go through all those files replacing your mage's name with your shaman's |
| 22:24.01 | Antiarc | Looking for anything out of place now. |
| 22:24.03 | Mezir | its just you doenst matter whos reselling it, the coolers always the same |
| 22:24.32 | Mezir | thats what i thought, but which files |
| 22:24.33 | Mezir | o.o |
| 22:24.35 | Antiarc | Man, ACP needs a bit of work |
| 22:24.39 | Antiarc | _ and obj as globals? |
| 22:25.04 | Tuller | 11/18 15:14:01.022 Global variable Rock tainted by Ace2 hehe |
| 22:25.07 | Xinhuan | Global variable CloseSpecialWindows tainted by DewdropLib |
| 22:25.08 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 22:25.16 | nymbia | rofl |
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| 22:26.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 22:26.17 | Antiarc | Global variable _ tainted by TabletLib |
| 22:26.19 | Xinhuan | why does AceComm taint Logout, Quit and CancelLogout |
| 22:26.22 | Antiarc | Buurrrrn it with fire |
| 22:26.39 | nevcairiel | better dont ask Xinhuan |
| 22:27.01 | Xinhuan | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 22:27.01 | purl | urinates on nevcairiel |
| 22:27.03 | Antiarc | Yeah, there's nothing in that log that indicates a global variable overlap |
| 22:27.31 | kenlyric | LibSharedMedia: be more assertive! |
| 22:27.31 | Antiarc | Time to look at opcodes! |
| 22:27.32 | nevcairiel | why does rockcomm taint arg1-arg4? |
| 22:27.35 | nevcairiel | thats bad |
| 22:28.02 | Antiarc | What causes variable taint? Writing to it? |
| 22:28.03 | Pkekyo | does my mainboard have to support gddr3 for me to use a graphics card with gddr3? |
| 22:28.07 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, that's because |
| 22:28.17 | Tuller | Antiarc: arg4 = blah would taint it |
| 22:28.21 | Xinhuan | if a global is already tainted, retainting it doesn't make it show on the log |
| 22:28.42 | Xinhuan | it only re-logs a taint if secure code untaints a variable |
| 22:28.48 | Xinhuan | like "arg1" |
| 22:28.50 | Antiarc | Well, Omen doesn't use any of the globals tainted by the Bongos skinned map |
| 22:28.57 | liquidzoo | Pkekyo: no |
| 22:28.57 | Antiarc | Or visa versa |
| 22:29.15 | Tuller | what's the anchoring code for the display like? |
| 22:29.35 | Jaliborc | yep |
| 22:29.35 | Antiarc | Tuller: Which part of the display? |
| 22:29.43 | Tuller | the omen display :) |
| 22:29.50 | Tuller | is it simply not showing up at all? |
| 22:30.53 | Antiarc | The Omen display shows. Certain people just fail to show on it, apparently. |
| 22:31.00 | Antiarc | http://ace.pastey.net/77581 is the Omen anchor anchoring code. |
| 22:33.28 | Tuller | well, nothing wrong with that code |
| 22:33.58 | Antiarc | Jaliborc: Still don't have the email :( |
| 22:34.06 | Antiarc | Are you sending it to cheald at gmail? |
| 22:34.38 | Jaliborc | i sent in irc, i will sent by e-mail |
| 22:35.05 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 22:35.10 | Antiarc | You aren't identified |
| 22:35.12 | Antiarc | Your PMs aren't getting to me |
| 22:35.21 | Antiarc | You have to register and identify to send queries on freenode |
| 22:35.26 | CIA-4 | 03scorpion * r55351 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 22:35.26 | CIA-4 | AutoBar : |
| 22:35.26 | CIA-4 | - update zhTW localization |
| 22:35.26 | CIA-4 | - update zhCN localization |
| 22:35.54 | Jaliborc | i sent to your gmail |
| 22:35.54 | breser | Antiarc: Actually that's just an individual option. You can allow unidentified people to PM you. |
| 22:36.07 | Antiarc | Ah, didn't know that. How do I set that? |
| 22:36.25 | breser | Give me a sec I'll have to go look it up, haven't messed with that in a couple years. |
| 22:36.54 | Kuja^ | ./ns set unfiltered |
| 22:37.16 | breser | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.19 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 22:37.25 | Gnarfoz | I don't know how to fix Aloft :< |
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| 22:37.39 | Antiarc | Sweet, thanks |
| 22:37.41 | JCinDE | evening |
| 22:38.18 | JCinDE | nevcairiel you awake? |
| 22:39.26 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 22:40.17 | JCinDE | A couple of months back I sent you a modified version of StickyFrames for Bartender3...was wondering if you ever had a chance to take a look. |
| 22:41.35 | nevcairiel | i did look at it, somehow forgot about it again tho |
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| 22:42.36 | JCinDE | I can send it again if you need. I keep getting Bartender3 updates for translations via WAU and I have to go back and readd my changes. heh |
| 22:43.33 | Antiarc | felirx: Found the Fanaticism bug. Apparently the reduction is only counting if you activate and then cancel righteous fury |
| 22:43.36 | Antiarc | Should be easy enough to fix. |
| 22:44.25 | CIA-4 | 03kemayo * r55352 10BankStack/sort.lua: BankStack: Complaints of number-to-nil on 187 are no longer valid. |
| 22:44.51 | Ellipsis | interesting way to phrase it |
| 22:45.22 | Micron | Hey all, does anyone know if Cryect is still active, or if anyone is really working on Recount? I'm thinking about putting some work into it and I'd like to make sure I coordinate with anyone else working on it. |
| 22:45.39 | Xinhuan | ~seen Cryect |
| 22:45.42 | purl | cryect <i=Cryect@pool-72-95-163-178.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 50m 58s ago, saying: 'as seen on tv by KarlThePagan'. |
| 22:45.56 | Xinhuan | he's been around, just not all that active on the UI scene |
| 22:46.11 | Pkekyo | http://i20.tinypic.com/2qsucxy.jpg |
| 22:46.32 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r55353 10Bartender3/ (Bar.lua libs/StickyFrames.lua): Bartender3: upload patched stickyframes lib to allow snapping to UIParent and WorldFrame from the inside |
| 22:46.40 | Olison | rofl Pkekyo |
| 22:46.51 | JCinDE | wow |
| 22:46.55 | JCinDE | Thanks heh |
| 22:47.04 | Micron | Yeah he made a fix to Recount fairly recently but it isn't clear to me if he's actually still invovled in it. I guess I'll try to track him down and find out. |
| 22:47.13 | JCinDE | Did that include the changes to Bar.lua? |
| 22:47.22 | JCinDE | oh yeah nm I see it did |
| 22:48.12 | Lukian | Hmm is there anyway to make bartender's main bar only page between 2 bars and not all of them? |
| 22:48.38 | nevcairiel | i'll probably change it to use the LibStickyFrames once its done, not sure if it allows that kind of snapping yet |
| 22:49.11 | JCinDE | I'd be happy to collaborate with whoever is working on that lib. |
| 22:49.16 | Xinhuan | i think it does nevcairiel |
| 22:49.20 | nevcairiel | toadkiller is |
| 22:49.25 | JCinDE | ah ok |
| 22:49.29 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: if i understand it , you'd have to special register the UIParent before it could |
| 22:49.36 | Orionshock | .. or "global register" it |
| 22:49.39 | Xinhuan | but i don't think he registered UIParent and WorldFrame to be snappable to |
| 22:49.48 | Xinhuan | you would have to register those |
| 22:49.57 | Xinhuan | also, he would have to add code to prevent snapping to the outside |
| 22:50.04 | Xinhuan | of those frames? |
| 22:50.06 | nevcairiel | ya well original stickyframes only allowed snapping ontop of frames |
| 22:50.09 | nevcairiel | not to inner edges |
| 22:50.14 | nevcairiel | not sure it supports that |
| 22:50.15 | JCinDE | Yeah it was limited |
| 22:50.31 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r55354 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua: |
| 22:50.31 | CIA-4 | Threat-1.0: |
| 22:50.31 | CIA-4 | - Properly apply Fanaticism reduction on module load; doesn't require an RF buff/cancel to become active anymore. |
| 22:51.23 | Lukian | nevcairiel / or anyone able to answer my question? |
| 22:51.29 | felirx | <3 |
| 22:51.40 | nevcairiel | Lukian: not possible, no |
| 22:51.41 | Antiarc | Thanks for the heads-up, felirx |
| 22:51.42 | Xinhuan | out of curiosity Antiarc, how much threat does mage Counterspell generate? |
| 22:51.46 | JCinDE | I don't think there's a way currently Lukian |
| 22:51.51 | Xinhuan | its a "high threat" attack |
| 22:51.51 | Antiarc | 300 or 350, from memory |
| 22:51.56 | Lukian | pity :( |
| 22:52.05 | Antiarc | Yes, 300 threat |
| 22:52.13 | Antiarc | Which puts it on par with Sunder |
| 22:52.23 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 22:52.30 | Antiarc | It's no Mind Control, though |
| 22:52.30 | Xinhuan | on a long cooldown though |
| 22:52.32 | Antiarc | MC = 5500 threat |
| 22:52.49 | Xinhuan | does mind control's threat get added by the MCed unit's damage it received |
| 22:52.51 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 22:53.00 | Antiarc | No, I don't believe so |
| 22:53.07 | Antiarc | I think it's a flat 5.5k threat to the priest |
| 22:53.15 | Antiarc | Any threat incurred by the MC'd mob goes to the mob |
| 22:53.36 | Xinhuan | so if you re-mind control that mob, is it reset to 0? |
| 22:53.47 | Antiarc | No, you then have 11k threat on it |
| 22:54.03 | Xinhuan | no i mean, would the other mobs turn back and attack the re-MCed mob |
| 22:54.10 | Antiarc | No |
| 22:54.34 | Antiarc | A MC break and re-MC does seem to reset the threat list on the mob as far as other mobs are concerned |
| 22:54.56 | Xinhuan | i would guess the engineering mind control toy does the same amount hehe |
| 22:58.34 | Zhinjio | Toadkiller: [Azure Whelpling] add to pets list? |
| 22:58.49 | *** join/#wowace Laric (i=Laric@217-13-2-126.dd.nextgentel.com) |
| 22:58.58 | Xinhuan | and sporebat pet too |
| 22:59.22 | Laric | is there any event that is triggered when you get a debuff? (and ideally the name of the debuff) |
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| 23:03.39 | Pkekyo | why are the fucking bollock GMs so bloody slow? GAH |
| 23:04.18 | KarlThePagan | HAY GM CAN I HAS GOLD 4 MOUNT? |
| 23:04.23 | KarlThePagan | y noet? |
| 23:04.27 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: well gee, if someone was being that polite to me, I'd want to respond right away too |
| 23:04.28 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 23:04.59 | Micron | Laric: I think you want the UNIT_AURA event |
| 23:05.05 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: I'm only slagging them off behind their backs |
| 23:05.26 | ckknight | Antiarc, ping |
| 23:05.30 | Antiarc | ckknight: pong |
| 23:05.40 | ckknight | you ingame? |
| 23:06.02 | Antiarc | Not at the moment |
| 23:06.03 | Antiarc | What's up? |
| 23:06.07 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, i'm getting ckknight to fix the guild permissions issue with rollcall ;p |
| 23:06.12 | Antiarc | Ahh, okay |
| 23:06.14 | Antiarc | Sec, I'll log in |
| 23:06.18 | Silowyi | http://www.accasia.net/quatum_loot.jpg |
| 23:06.59 | Xinhuan | yes, i really did disable rollcall to change all the guild permissions lol, it got too annoying |
| 23:07.34 | Antiarc | It's really damn annoying |
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| 23:07.37 | Antiarc | Severely so |
| 23:07.47 | nymbia | oh is it rollcall doing that |
| 23:07.51 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 23:09.08 | ckknight | how do I reproduce this? |
| 23:09.25 | Xinhuan | have carto_GuildPositions loaded and active should be sufficient |
| 23:09.33 | Xinhuan | click on "Guild Control" button |
| 23:09.44 | Xinhuan | then choose a rank that isn't Guild Master |
| 23:09.50 | ckknight | ah, okay, got it |
| 23:10.01 | Xinhuan | after a few secs, ~5, the text and permssions will revert to Guild Master's ones |
| 23:10.11 | ckknight | it must refresh when ROSTER_UPDATE is fired |
| 23:11.21 | Xinhuan | if that's the case, you could possibly make rollcall/carto_GP stop refreshing the guildlist when the guildcontrol panel is shown |
| 23:12.32 | Xinhuan | although that is more of a "hack" than a fix |
| 23:13.03 | Silowyi | you know |
| 23:13.07 | Silowyi | back in "the day" |
| 23:13.43 | Silowyi | a hack was a modification by someone other than the original author, that added needed functionality whether or not the application was designed to function that way |
| 23:13.57 | Silowyi | and a kludge was a "really sloppy fix" |
| 23:14.10 | Silowyi | now the word kludge seems to have disappeared, and everyone just says hack |
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| 23:14.33 | Antiarc | I still use "kludge" on occassion |
| 23:14.53 | Xinhuan | "kludge" doesn't sound geeky enough |
| 23:15.09 | Silowyi | I wonder if you could use quantum physics to develop a loot predictor |
| 23:16.17 | Antiarc | Sure, but the more accurately you measure the loot, the less accurately you can measure its drop rate |
| 23:16.27 | CIA-4 | 03pprovost * r55357 10GruulMap/: GruulMap: Initial import |
| 23:16.38 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 23:16.45 | Silowyi | GruulMap |
| 23:16.46 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 23:16.49 | Silowyi | already I'm interested |
| 23:17.00 | Silowyi | not that we actually even raid gruul anymore |
| 23:17.28 | Xinhuan | r55357 isn't on fisheye yet ~_~ |
| 23:18.11 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 23:18.14 | Xinhuan | its an empty folder |
| 23:18.16 | Antiarc | I've observed something very interesting lately |
| 23:18.16 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:18.18 | Xinhuan | no files committed yet |
| 23:18.35 | Antiarc | The amount I pickpocket from mobs is basically always 61% of the cash they actually drop |
| 23:18.43 | Pkekyo | in the Akil'zon fight...should we bother with killing the bloody birds? |
| 23:18.45 | Ellipsis | that's quite precise |
| 23:18.46 | Silowyi | 61% or 60%? |
| 23:18.55 | Ellipsis | how long have you spent tracking this, Antiarc? o.O |
| 23:18.59 | Xinhuan | 61% rounded up/down? |
| 23:19.12 | Xinhuan | and are bosses pickpocketable? |
| 23:19.18 | Ellipsis | ...lol |
| 23:19.19 | Antiarc | 61.2244897% |
| 23:19.20 | Xinhuan | like uh Gruul |
| 23:19.22 | Shadowed | Good luck |
| 23:19.23 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, always looking for a way to make money |
| 23:19.24 | Shadowed | getting that close |
| 23:19.26 | Antiarc | And I've been tracking it for my last 100 pickpockets or so |
| 23:19.33 | Xinhuan | 61% of a boss's gold is a lot :) |
| 23:19.35 | Antiarc | And no, bosses aren't pickpocketable, generally |
| 23:19.37 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: We had one hunter on the birds, 3 healers, and one of our MTs is a feral druid so 5 dps. |
| 23:20.18 | Xinhuan | i can see youo're pretty bored Antiarc |
| 23:20.21 | Silowyi | There's not many bosses you can get close enough to pickpocket |
| 23:20.33 | Silowyi | maybe the channellers in Mag's lair |
| 23:20.36 | Xinhuan | you could stealth run sethikk heroic, etc :) |
| 23:21.01 | Micron | Pkekya: My guild's last kill ignored them until they collapsed under the cloud and then bured them down with a combination of chain lightning and seed of corruption. |
| 23:21.01 | Silowyi | first boss detects stealth now |
| 23:21.02 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: err....what? |
| 23:21.16 | Pkekyo | three healers and your mt on the birds?! |
| 23:21.21 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: no.... |
| 23:21.57 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: Our raid makeup is 3 healers, warrior, feral OT, 5 DPS |
| 23:22.13 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Actually, I was trying to get stupidly lucky with a Spinesever |
| 23:22.15 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: We put a hunter on the birds, feral druid was in cat form, so still had 5 DPS on the boss |
| 23:22.21 | Antiarc | And I just started tracking pickpocket amounts while I did it |
| 23:22.29 | Antiarc | However |
| 23:22.35 | Pkekyo | so we SHOULD bother killing the birds? |
| 23:22.45 | Antiarc | I put together a macro that lets me autopickpocket things - I can just drive-by pickpocket mobs |
| 23:22.46 | Antiarc | It's awesome |
| 23:22.52 | Silowyi | Pkekyo: Killing the birds isn't really necessary, keeping the birds to a managable number is. |
| 23:22.57 | Antiarc | Farmed up about 35 super heals and 40g in pickpocket cash in about 1.5 hours |
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| 23:23.25 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo, my guild doesn't bother to kill the birds |
| 23:23.41 | Silowyi | I suppose Zerging him is a viable option |
| 23:23.43 | Xinhuan | we discovered that if the rogue uses blade flurry, the warrior whirlwind, ele shaman uses chain lightning, etc |
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| 23:23.47 | Xinhuan | they get killed |
| 23:23.56 | Xinhuan | the mage can also flamestrike the boss once in a while, etc |
| 23:24.10 | Xinhuan | not necessary to kill them otherwise |
| 23:24.11 | Silowyi | Ah, that's the problem, we didn't have a rogue or ele shaman |
| 23:24.49 | Xinhuan | generally we just ignore them and aoetype attacks kills them over time |
| 23:24.49 | Silowyi | Tried zerging him at first, but the birds got out of control and started eating the healers |
| 23:26.43 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: share? |
| 23:26.52 | Antiarc | Share what? |
| 23:27.08 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r55358 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Nalorakk.lua): BigWigs: ZulAman: add esES by geran, tweak Akil'zon initial storm timer. |
| 23:29.03 | Xinhuan | Funkeh`, is there a way i can disable the bigwigs bars for "grip" at archimonde? |
| 23:29.12 | Xinhuan | but still have the "warning" |
| 23:29.21 | Funkeh` | no |
| 23:29.25 | Xinhuan | the bar isn't useful considering the curse gets decursed right away |
| 23:29.53 | Funkeh` | I can stop it when the curse is removed I guess |
| 23:30.00 | Xinhuan | would you consider removing the countdown bar for grip then? or remove it on decurse |
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| 23:31.56 | Xinhuan | i just find it "mildly" annoying when there's 3 bars of grip counting down to 0, but none of them are actually cursed ;p |
| 23:33.11 | ckknight | ~framexml |
| 23:33.11 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 23:33.56 | Funkeh` | ckknight, orly? :D |
| 23:34.05 | ckknight | ... |
| 23:37.27 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r55359 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: add engage timer |
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| 23:38.22 | Antiarc | engage timer or enrage timer? |
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| 23:38.48 | Funkeh` | engage |
| 23:41.09 | Funkeh` | atlantis s4 ep8 is out |
| 23:41.12 | Funkeh` | forgot about it |
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| 23:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: YOU FORGOT?! |
| 23:44.48 | NightHawkTheSane | HOW COULD YOU?!? |
| 23:44.52 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 23:44.57 | kenlyric | is there a mod which just lets me see the equipped items on my alts? |
| 23:45.00 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, you didn't remind me? |
| 23:45.02 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 23:45.03 | Funkeh` | ~fail NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:45.04 | purl | NightHawkTheSane: Fail. |
| 23:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: touché, salesman. |
| 23:45.11 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: all your fault |
| 23:45.19 | ulic | Character Info, turn off the bag storage? |
| 23:45.24 | Xinhuan | kenlyric: BankItems does... but it does a bit more than just equipped items |
| 23:45.30 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: sanity2 does/did/will-if-antiarc-gets-off-his-lazy-ass |
| 23:45.52 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: diaf, thx :) |
| 23:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: <3 |
| 23:46.03 | Ellipsis | I think the real problem with sanity is the name |
| 23:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought the name was the best part. |
| 23:46.18 | Ellipsis | Antiarc subconsciously knows he can't really work on an addon called "sanity" |
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| 23:48.30 | kenlyric | I find with Bulkmail that my items all end up on one char anyway, so the previous need I had for sanity no longer exists. |
| 23:48.34 | KarlThePagan | hmm... sanity item cache must be scanning the bank at bad times |
| 23:49.02 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, jesus here we go again, uploading faster than i'm downlaoding ... |
| 23:49.20 | kenlyric | throttle that bitch! |
| 23:49.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: >< i blame you risp |
| 23:49.34 | Funkeh` | think i might swap port incase |
| 23:50.37 | Silowyi | Question |
| 23:50.42 | Silowyi | I have a LOT of ace addons |
| 23:51.15 | Silowyi | would I notice a decrease in the very very very long load time when I start WoW if I downloaded the stand alone libraries and started downloading the addons without externals? |
| 23:51.37 | Ellipsis | depends on your computer's specs and how many of your addons have libs in common |
| 23:52.07 | Silowyi | Ellipsis: If I run a search on my addons directory for, say, AceDb |
| 23:52.16 | Silowyi | I get 50 results |
| 23:52.33 | Chompers | give it a go |
| 23:52.39 | Ellipsis | the best way to find out is to try it |
| 23:52.44 | Chompers | see what type of results you get |
| 23:52.57 | Codayus | Silowyi: Yeah, you should. Whether it'll be noticable or worthwhile...I dunno. |
| 23:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | if you want off-the-cuff opinions, you really won't notice much of a difference. |
| 23:53.10 | Silowyi | its a lot of effort is why I'm asking |
| 23:53.20 | Ellipsis | it shouldn't be that difficult |
| 23:53.24 | Silowyi | thing is I have 268 total addon folders |
| 23:53.29 | Chompers | pressing a button on wau is hard? |
| 23:53.37 | Silowyi | probably 80 or so addons from the wau |
| 23:53.38 | Codayus | Shouldn't be hard. Doesn't WAU do it automagically if you want? |
| 23:53.40 | Ellipsis | grab the updater of your choice, enable "delete before update", set to update without externals, and update all |
| 23:53.45 | Antiarc | WAU can do it automagically, yes |
| 23:53.48 | Antiarc | No need to use SAL |
| 23:53.49 | Silowyi | oh |
| 23:53.52 | Silowyi | well that makes it easier |
| 23:54.40 | Tuller | I still /boggle at the idea of 250+ addons :P |
| 23:54.49 | Antiarc | heh |
| 23:54.50 | Tuller | even though I know it might be 5 addons and 245 libs |
| 23:54.55 | Antiarc | I have 394 directories in my AddOns dir |
| 23:54.56 | Tuller | or modules, whatever :P |
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| 23:55.22 | Ellipsis | my addons dir has 191 folders in it...that's with disembedded libs as well as module splitting |
| 23:55.23 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 23:55.57 | Silowyi | anyway on an amd dual core 4800, 4 GB of PC 3500, win xp64, with an x1950 xt the 2 minute load time is pretty depressing. |
| 23:56.13 | Antiarc | Silowyi: Heh, yeah, I get the same thing. I suspect it's mostly saved vars, though |
| 23:56.18 | Ellipsis | the hard drive is a big factor for load times though |
| 23:56.24 | Silowyi | in game performance is fine, 60+ FPS standing to 30ish in combat. |
| 23:56.26 | Chompers | computer specs wont speed up your hard drive |
| 23:56.35 | JCinDE | Can anyone recommend a questlog mod as good as or better than Extended QuestLog? It's the best one I've seen but it's abandoned and its features are falling off one by one. |
| 23:56.36 | Silowyi | you make a good point |
| 23:56.40 | Chompers | slathering grease on it will though |
| 23:56.47 | Stanzilla | JCinDE: beql |
| 23:56.54 | Tuller | 90 including the blizzard stuff |
| 23:56.56 | Antiarc | Silowyi: WAU has an option to clean up unused saved vars |
| 23:57.28 | JCinDE | yeah I've seen it...but it seems to be a subset of EQL...and last I saw it hasn't been worked on much |
| 23:57.52 | Chompers | Antiarc: i'm a 38 rogue, anything i should know or do? |
| 23:57.58 | Ellipsis | Chompers: stab things |
| 23:58.01 | Antiarc | Chompers: About what? |
| 23:58.01 | Xinhuan | yes, get to 39 |
| 23:58.05 | Chompers | i've gone all into combat |
| 23:58.09 | Pkekyo | http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/daft+punk/around+the+world_10076007.html best song lyrics EVER |
| 23:58.17 | Xinhuan | and get the lvl 39 quest ;p |
| 23:58.20 | Xinhuan | for scarlet monastery |
| 23:58.30 | Xinhuan | or is it RFD |
| 23:58.41 | Xinhuan | good sword reward |
| 23:58.49 | Antiarc | Scarlet Monastary |
| 23:58.54 | Antiarc | Then Maraudon for the Thrash Blade |
| 23:58.55 | Chompers | how far into combat should i go? |
| 23:59.35 | Antiarc | It's hard to go wrong with a 19/42 build |
| 23:59.57 | Antiarc | Trispec hemo is kinda the new hotness thedays, but you need a lot of CP to make it worth it |
