| 00:00.02 | dhask | no |
| 00:00.08 | dhask | securehook calls your function |
| 00:00.10 | dhask | then calls the original |
| 00:00.11 | Arrowmaster | you would create an inf loop |
| 00:00.17 | dhask | your function should never call the original |
| 00:00.26 | grennon | ohhhhhh |
| 00:01.04 | dhask | you cannot change the arguments or return on a securehook, only take some other action as well |
| 00:01.05 | Arrowmaster | no securehook calls the original and then your function |
| 00:01.10 | grennon | do i get the args that were passed to the secure func? |
| 00:01.15 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 00:01.26 | Arrowmaster | you dont get the return of the secure func though |
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| 00:03.06 | Xinhuan | you can think of a securehook as a post-hook function that does something extra on top of the original function |
| 00:03.44 | Xinhuan | so the original function always runs, then your extra function runs (your return values are discarded) |
| 00:04.34 | Xinhuan | and all of it is transparent |
| 00:05.20 | grennon | man, i miss when tainting was legal and fun |
| 00:05.26 | Xinhuan | the moment you securehook() a function, you also cannot unhook it, so your function should ideally have a "if flag then doit end" as a means of "unhooking" |
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| 00:06.02 | Xinhuan | hooksecurefunc("function", myfync) |
| 00:06.24 | Xinhuan | so you can toggle "flag" to turn on/off your hook |
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| 00:07.11 | Xinhuan | hope that helps! |
| 00:07.15 | grennon | so if i save the original function to a local copy, the securehook it, running the copy can cause an inf loop |
| 00:07.26 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:07.48 | Xinhuan | the main reason why you securehook a function is to prevent the original execution path from taint |
| 00:08.03 | Xinhuan | so calling that same function from your hooked function will cause taint |
| 00:08.12 | Xinhuan | because your function is tainted |
| 00:08.42 | Xinhuan | the execution path only becomes untainted on returning to the place where securecall() was called |
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| 00:09.03 | Kemayo | Today is "Xinhuan explains taint" day, huh? |
| 00:09.31 | Xinhuan | if i knew completely how to track taint, i wouldn't have to bang my head |
| 00:09.49 | Xinhuan | i note that taint.log doesn't record tainting of functions that are local |
| 00:09.58 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: note that the original function's returns are also discarded |
| 00:10.21 | Xinhuan | and it makes debugging taint soooooooo hard |
| 00:11.05 | Xinhuan | see, suppose the default UI has frame:SetScript("OnEvent", abc) |
| 00:11.14 | Xinhuan | if i overwrite abc() |
| 00:11.19 | Xinhuan | taint.log doesn't complain. |
| 00:11.33 | Xinhuan | because abc isn't a global var |
| 00:12.16 | Xinhuan | so there's quite a bit of taint that is "almost untrackable" |
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| 00:12.53 | Xinhuan | when OnEvent gets triggered, taint.log will then complain execution got tainted by running that function |
| 00:13.10 | Xinhuan | it will say by which addon, but it won't say how or why |
| 00:13.15 | Xinhuan | almost impossible to debug |
| 00:13.23 | Stanzilla | can we make "taint" a bad word pls |
| 00:13.39 | Stanzilla | replace it with "boobs" or something like that :p |
| 00:13.58 | Xinhuan | so there's quite a bit of boobs that is "almost untrackable" |
| 00:14.17 | Stanzilla | lol! |
| 00:14.19 | Xinhuan | when OnEvent gets triggered, boobs.log will then complain execution got boobed by running that function |
| 00:14.21 | Zhinjio | I love it. |
| 00:14.39 | Zhinjio | there are quite a bit of boobs that are almost untrackable. |
| 00:14.43 | Zhinjio | some people are just into that. |
| 00:14.58 | kenlyric | taint isn't exactly a good word now... |
| 00:15.10 | Kemayo | Yeah, it's already sexual slang. :P |
| 00:15.18 | Xinhuan | boob isn't exactly a good word now... |
| 00:15.21 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 00:15.31 | [dRaCo] | boobs are great :/ |
| 00:15.47 | Xinhuan | i'll have to ask if Ellipsis agrees |
| 00:16.01 | Kemayo | ~wiki taint (slang) |
| 00:16.04 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: ping |
| 00:16.16 | Ellipsis | what am I agreeing with? |
| 00:16.26 | Antiarc | Zhinjio: pyongyang |
| 00:16.32 | Zhinjio | heheheee. |
| 00:16.57 | Zhinjio | I was investigating armory scrapers last night, yours came up. Have their changes settled down yet or are things still in flux? |
| 00:17.10 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: replacing the word "taint" with "Boob" |
| 00:17.26 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 00:17.30 | Ellipsis | that's kinda hot |
| 00:17.34 | Antiarc | Zhinjio: Well, they change it periodically |
| 00:17.39 | Antiarc | I haven't updated for the latest changes though |
| 00:17.42 | Antiarc | No time. :P |
| 00:18.01 | Zhinjio | I was just curious if you were aware of the state of things. |
| 00:18.16 | Zhinjio | there is a module of wowroster that is currently broken pending "armory changes settling down" |
| 00:18.51 | Antiarc | I haven't look at them, no |
| 00:18.56 | Zhinjio | k, thanks. |
| 00:18.58 | Antiarc | I'm sure it's just as simple as the XML structure changing though |
| 00:19.02 | Antiarc | So it can't be hard at all to fix |
| 00:19.10 | Antiarc | Just change a couple of xpath queries and you're good to go |
| 00:19.17 | grennon | so your hooked code only see the input for the original function, and you cant see the output at all |
| 00:19.41 | grennon | by output, i mean returns |
| 00:20.47 | grennon | man, i really dont want to have to display quest levels in the questlog the questfu way |
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| 00:27.36 | Xinhuan | [11/22 08:19:06] <grennon> so your hooked code only see the input for the original function, and you cant see the output at all |
| 00:27.39 | Xinhuan | that is correct |
| 00:29.38 | Zhinjio | ok, so I don't want to use CTMailMod anymore. What Ace-based thinger should I replace it with? |
| 00:29.55 | Zhinjio | I want Alt-Click and auto-recipient-fillin functions at least |
| 00:30.05 | Zhinjio | bulkmail isn't as necessary anymore |
| 00:30.54 | grennon | try postal, but beware, the original author was a real nub |
| 00:30.55 | Aeyan | By auto recipient, you want it to remember the last person you sent it to? |
| 00:31.15 | Zhinjio | no, I want it to auto-complete names based on guild/friends lists |
| 00:31.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Zhinjio: default ui does that already |
| 00:31.27 | Zhinjio | ok, good. |
| 00:31.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Zhinjio: and, for alt-click, if the default ui does;'t do that, try AltClickToAddItem |
| 00:31.40 | Aeyan | Ah, I recommend AltClickToAddItem then |
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| 00:31.50 | Diao | i think you can just right click now |
| 00:31.52 | Diao | in the default ui |
| 00:31.53 | Diao | to add items |
| 00:31.56 | Aeyan | Postal if you desire more |
| 00:32.01 | Zhinjio | can you? Hmm. that would be good enough. |
| 00:32.05 | Zhinjio | I'll test shoretly |
| 00:32.08 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: o'rly? was't aware of that. |
| 00:32.26 | NightHawkAtWork | if i was't so addicted to BM's autosending, I could probaly ditch all mail mods at this point |
| 00:32.27 | Zhinjio | kinda like vendors have always done |
| 00:32.38 | Aeyan | I think I tried that, but I might have been using modifiers and just not thought of it |
| 00:32.44 | Diao | same, i still use bm |
| 00:32.54 | Ellipsis | yeah, since 2.3 you can right click add things to trade/mail |
| 00:33.05 | Zhinjio | awesome |
| 00:33.12 | Zhinjio | ok, then I don't need a mailmod anymore. sweet. |
| 00:33.19 | Ellipsis | but you can't right click to open a trade if there isn't one open, which is why I kept AltClickToAddItem >_> |
| 00:33.20 | NightHawkAtWork | that's pretty sex. I should try ditching BM2I, and just getting something simple like OpenALl |
| 00:33.22 | hyperChipmunk | psh |
| 00:33.38 | Xinhuan | Postal has OpenAll feature that works :) |
| 00:33.42 | Zhinjio | oooh, open all... thats a good point. |
| 00:33.43 | hyperChipmunk | you ditch bm2i and i'll kick your balls off |
| 00:33.49 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: pfeh, like hell i need postal for that |
| 00:33.52 | Ellipsis | what will you do if I ditch it? |
| 00:33.57 | Xinhuan | hehehe |
| 00:34.04 | hyperChipmunk | frown disappointedly |
| 00:34.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Kemayo wrote "OpenAll" which does just that. :p |
| 00:34.09 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 00:34.13 | Ellipsis | that's not very threatening |
| 00:34.17 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: tell me precisely why I need bm2i? :P |
| 00:34.26 | Ellipsis | take all, take cash |
| 00:34.42 | Zhinjio | yup, right click works great. Hmm, openall. |
| 00:34.45 | NightHawkAtWork | OpenAll can handle take all, and I never use take cash |
| 00:34.48 | Zhinjio | lately, I've not been doing that. |
| 00:34.57 | Zhinjio | so maybe I'll see how I live without it. |
| 00:35.07 | NightHawkAtWork | honestly, if BM2I could just delete the empty letter left after the cash is taken, that'd be enough to sell me |
| 00:35.15 | hyperChipmunk | it does |
| 00:35.20 | Zhinjio | oh, and I became uncrushable last night! *grin* |
| 00:35.20 | NightHawkAtWork | it has't been for me |
| 00:35.28 | Ellipsis | it does for me |
| 00:35.28 | hyperChipmunk | then you should tell me |
| 00:35.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Consider this me telling you. :P |
| 00:35.42 | Xinhuan | NightHawkAtWork, Postal takes care of that :) |
| 00:35.58 | hyperChipmunk | i really ought to make bulkmail's openall available separately |
| 00:36.00 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: you know, fuck you, and fuck postal, and fuck grennon cause i'm on a roll right now. :P |
| 00:36.19 | Xinhuan | hahaha, you're talking to 3 mail addon developers at the same time ;p |
| 00:36.19 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: erm, what would be the point? |
| 00:36.21 | grennon | thanks man, im having bourbon, heres to you |
| 00:36.34 | Ellipsis | what about cheese? |
| 00:36.39 | grennon | i aint developed shit since may jack |
| 00:36.40 | Ellipsis | you're not going to fuck cheese? |
| 00:36.46 | NightHawkAtWork | grennon: good deal, bourbon is the win |
| 00:36.54 | hyperChipmunk | because it's a really good system, and I worked hard to make it good and fast |
| 00:37.03 | hyperChipmunk | and sometimes that's all people want |
| 00:37.04 | grennon | yeah, bm2 is good shit |
| 00:37.04 | NightHawkAtWork | also, i can't ironically spell the "teh" in this client.. i'm not sure how i feel about it. |
| 00:37.22 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: maybe i'm mistaken, but i thought OpenAll used the same algorithm |
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| 00:37.39 | hyperChipmunk | really? well that solves it then! |
| 00:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | less work for me. ha! |
| 00:37.56 | grennon | is reverse opening all still the safest way to do it? the mail system was such a pain to work with |
| 00:37.59 | NightHawkAtWork | I'd ask Kemayo to be sure, but I thought it did, hence my original statement of "what would be the point" :) |
| 00:38.14 | hyperChipmunk | ah, probably it is then |
| 00:38.25 | hyperChipmunk | he did some stuff on BM, so he'd understand it |
| 00:39.08 | hyperChipmunk | grennon: yeah, it's largely unchanged except for the multiple-attachments from when it was when you were around last |
| 00:39.11 | Xinhuan | yes grennon |
| 00:39.16 | Xinhuan | reverse is the only safe way to do it |
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| 00:39.48 | Xinhuan | in fact i noted there's some weirdness in 2.3 |
| 00:39.53 | Xinhuan | if you just reloaded UI or logged in |
| 00:40.00 | Xinhuan | the first mail you take out of your mailbox |
| 00:40.03 | grennon | thats why i regretted ever porting ctmailmod to ace in the first place, the mail system was such crap |
| 00:40.10 | Xinhuan | takes about 10 seconds to "register" with the server |
| 00:40.13 | kenlyric | i wish it read PT sets properly. |
| 00:40.17 | Xinhuan | you get the item/gold right away |
| 00:40.22 | grennon | those awful timers ctmail used.... |
| 00:40.25 | hyperChipmunk | no, that's not my algorithm at all |
| 00:40.29 | hyperChipmunk | mine doesn't use a timer |
| 00:40.37 | Xinhuan | but the mail system from the server doesn't send the MAIL_UPDATE thingo until 10 or so secs later |
| 00:40.54 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: one thing you might consider is making excludes have higher priority than includes if they intersect. |
| 00:40.59 | hyperChipmunk | I managed to do it so that mail gets taken as fast as possible |
| 00:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: they should |
| 00:41.14 | kenlyric | they don't for Healing Potion |
| 00:41.18 | hyperChipmunk | includes are set, then excludes nil them out |
| 00:41.18 | grennon | yeah, mail events were highly asynchronous on the client end but totally synchronous server side, making it a real pain |
| 00:41.29 | Xinhuan | actually grennon, your openall implementation uses a 0.5 sec timer |
| 00:41.33 | kenlyric | if I use a PT set for all Tradeskill.Mats.ByProfession |
| 00:41.40 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: oh, that reminds me. I noticed that if i had "all recipes" sent to one character, but "leatherworking recipes" sent to another, it just sent all recipes to the one character.. there ought to be a nice way to handle that |
| 00:41.52 | grennon | i put a slight delay in because i was getting lot of skipped messages on battlegroup ruin |
| 00:41.58 | Xinhuan | but the way i implemented taking all attachments from a single mail watches your inventory/bags for changes rather than via a timer |
| 00:41.59 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkAtWork: I use excludes for that |
| 00:42.01 | grennon | the split second delay cut that mostly |
| 00:42.14 | Ellipsis | oh hay while we're on the subject |
| 00:42.16 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: hmm, more work, but i guess that's fair |
| 00:42.27 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkAtWork: price of simplicity |
| 00:42.31 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah |
| 00:42.32 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: I'll see if I can get a test case to you. |
| 00:42.35 | hyperChipmunk | you only have to do it once |
| 00:42.35 | NightHawkAtWork | not going to argue with you there |
| 00:42.42 | grennon | even reverse parse could generate errors on a really bad battlegroup |
| 00:42.43 | Ellipsis | if you're planning to keep PT support in, can you at least make it optional so it doesn't error if the lib isn't installed? :) |
| 00:42.46 | kenlyric | the big issue is that PT *still* doesn't get loaded all the way. |
| 00:42.51 | grennon | i think BG ruin got upgraded at some point though |
| 00:42.52 | Xinhuan | and will check if those changes are due to mail |
| 00:43.08 | NightHawkAtWork | kenlyric: yeah, that one's bugged me to know end. >< I broke down and hand-edited my SV's at one point |
| 00:43.09 | kenlyric | like Reagent->Class has no subsets and errors out on Class |
| 00:43.17 | NightHawkAtWork | s/know/no/ |
| 00:43.22 | kenlyric | But reagents works fine! |
| 00:43.31 | grennon | Xinhuan: well, from my testing, you get two bag_update events after you take an item from a message |
| 00:43.44 | Xinhuan | i only listen to the first one |
| 00:43.53 | grennon | the second update is the safest one to process next from, but it is highly unpredictable |
| 00:44.03 | grennon | and even the first one is iffy |
| 00:44.05 | Xinhuan | i unregister the event right away, and check to see if the event corresponded from retrieing mail |
| 00:44.18 | Xinhuan | if it is, reregister and extract the next item, else ignore it |
| 00:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: i didn't do the pt3.1 |
| 00:44.25 | kenlyric | course, more logical item division would help. There needs to be set "all things I can cook with" |
| 00:44.30 | Xinhuan | its pretty simple |
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| 00:44.49 | Xinhuan | 2 bag_updates event occurs if its a stackable item and taking it causes 2 stacks to change |
| 00:44.52 | Ellipsis | um, isn't there a set for that kenlyric? |
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| 00:44.59 | Ellipsis | tradeskillmats or something |
| 00:45.02 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: yes |
| 00:45.05 | kenlyric | ByProfession. |
| 00:45.05 | Xinhuan | only bag_update gets fired if its just stacking on top of an existing stack |
| 00:45.08 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: talk to vhaarr |
| 00:45.21 | kenlyric | but they don't get loaded on demand properly. |
| 00:45.31 | kenlyric | I just need to find a mod again that loads them all. |
| 00:45.34 | Xinhuan | else inventory_update gets fired |
| 00:45.36 | kenlyric | pt3.1browser? |
| 00:45.47 | hyperChipmunk | pt3browser is 3.1 now |
| 00:45.57 | kenlyric | I could go back to baggins. |
| 00:46.09 | kenlyric | when I get 15 sub-bags in arkinv, I'm not sure it's saving any space... |
| 00:47.00 | hyperChipmunk | i honestly don't know a lick about load-on-demand and stuff; if you can find someone who does and wouldbe willing to look at it in BM, i'd be grateful |
| 00:47.11 | hyperChipmunk | the stuff that's in there is 0% my code |
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| 00:47.50 | grennon | man, if minimalist is tainting from replacing getquestlogtitle, id hate to be running ctmod core |
| 00:47.58 | grennon | it still doesnt return isdaily which was added |
| 00:48.10 | grennon | all i did was change the title text, theyre missing an entire field |
| 00:48.46 | Xinhuan | hey Ellipsis, another GM just PMed me |
| 00:48.55 | Xinhuan | screenshots coming up! |
| 00:48.55 | hyperChipmunk | heh, i can't imagine how ckk's rock variable storing holds up to that |
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| 00:49.06 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: ooh, linky linky |
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| 00:49.35 | Xinhuan | wait, gotta make a collage(?) of this |
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| 00:52.08 | Xinhuan | uploading now, brb |
| 00:52.11 | kenlyric_ | also, the arkinv categories make even less sense... leather appears under tailoring, not skinning or leatherworking. |
| 00:52.24 | Diao | wow |
| 00:52.32 | Diao | i pummeled a mindblast at .5 sec (1 sec remaining) |
| 00:52.35 | Diao | game says i interrupted |
| 00:52.36 | kenlyric_ | does baggins have a setting yet to stay open when you leave bank/vendor/etc. |
| 00:52.38 | Diao | 1 sec later |
| 00:52.42 | Diao | i get hit by a 1900 noncrit mindblast |
| 00:52.48 | Diao | wtf :( |
| 00:52.56 | Diao | (btw i play at 12 ms ping so lag is not an issue) |
| 00:53.19 | kenlyric_ | not an issue for you. |
| 00:53.23 | kenlyric_ | maybe for him. |
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| 00:53.39 | Keias | Don't act surprised, Diao. Pummel has always done this. |
| 00:53.44 | Diao | :( |
| 00:53.48 | Diao | it was "fixed" in 2.3 |
| 00:53.49 | Diao | >:( |
| 00:54.27 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/gmreply2.jpg |
| 00:55.04 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/gmreply3.jpg |
| 00:55.21 | Ellipsis | ooh, a specialist this time! |
| 00:55.22 | kenlyric_ | i bow before you. |
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| 00:55.28 | CIA-8 | ArkInventory: |
| 00:55.28 | CIA-8 | - v2.12d |
| 00:55.33 | kenlyric_ | you handle all those whispers like a pro. |
| 00:56.17 | Xinhuan | all do it all the time |
| 00:56.26 | Xinhuan | sometimes i have 10 ppl talking at the same time ~_~ |
| 00:56.45 | Ellipsis | wow, that is impressive |
| 00:56.54 | Diao | your whispers are green :O |
| 00:56.55 | kenlyric_ | got trained by irc, 1 window per whisper |
| 00:57.00 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 00:57.05 | kenlyric_ | so, <3 cellular |
| 00:57.09 | Ellipsis | I can't keep track of multiple people chatting to me at once |
| 00:57.10 | Xinhuan | ya i changed it to green as its easier to read than purple-pink |
| 00:57.13 | Keias | Xinhuan, gimme some gold. I'm poor. |
| 00:57.20 | kenlyric_ | I can do it in channel, just not in whispers. |
| 00:57.30 | NeoTron | my paladin got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33283 - I'm considering renaming her Amani (my main is Aminai). would be funny |
| 00:57.40 | Diao | lol |
| 00:57.41 | kenlyric_ | wow, 90 day mail life :) |
| 00:57.45 | kenlyric_ | GMs have POWER |
| 00:57.51 | Xinhuan | no its funnier than "5 gems" literally means 5 gems |
| 00:57.59 | Xinhuan | refresh http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/gmreply3.jpg |
| 00:58.04 | Xinhuan | i added the tooltip |
| 00:58.20 | Diao | lol |
| 00:58.21 | Diao | 5 random gems |
| 00:58.32 | Xinhuan | typically, 5 gems i would be expecting five EPIC GEMS |
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| 00:58.35 | Xinhuan | not 5 RANDOM gems |
| 00:58.44 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:58.45 | Cyerie | I guess I'm lucky; there's no one chatting to me |
| 00:58.46 | NeoTron | well |
| 00:58.46 | Diao | lol |
| 00:58.50 | Xinhuan | but hey... |
| 00:58.54 | NeoTron | the mines don't jsut give epic gems |
| 00:58.59 | NeoTron | they do give green, blue gems too |
| 00:59.06 | Gngsk | ^ |
| 00:59.12 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr |
| 00:59.17 | sag_ich_nicht | did you get my botmail |
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| 00:59.32 | kenlyric_ | ok. |
| 00:59.32 | NeoTron | 48k gold? hotdamn |
| 00:59.36 | Xinhuan | btw, i really do earn ~700g a day |
| 00:59.41 | Xuerian | HOw?! |
| 00:59.42 | Xinhuan | from selling gems |
| 00:59.42 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 00:59.44 | kenlyric_ | "extra steps for genetic purity" just came out of a TV commercial |
| 00:59.46 | Xinhuan | as you can see from my mailbox |
| 00:59.55 | Xuerian | relink |
| 00:59.56 | Xuerian | also |
| 01:00.06 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/gmreply3.jpg |
| 01:00.08 | Xuerian | do we have a mod that can swap idols based on buff gained/lost? |
| 01:00.15 | Gngsk | think so |
| 01:00.23 | Gngsk | although, it's designed for librams |
| 01:00.32 | Diao | yea |
| 01:00.41 | Diao | you can probably mod librameister to do idol/totem |
| 01:01.04 | kenlyric_ | so... I got derailed by disconnect, but arkinv vs baggins... likes, dislikes? |
| 01:01.04 | NeoTron | how much do you mine or do you just corner the AH market on gems? |
| 01:02.01 | Xinhuan | i buy about 100-200 stacks of adamantite ore daily, prospect them, |
| 01:02.05 | Xinhuan | then cut the gems and sell on AH |
| 01:02.11 | Xinhuan | that would be about 500g |
| 01:02.17 | Diao | i was planning to go jc |
| 01:02.19 | Diao | but i can't drop bs |
| 01:02.21 | Diao | until i get a s3 weapon |
| 01:02.48 | Xinhuan | then add in the fact i'm well known, have all but 2 enchants, have almost all known JC patterns, i prob get another 100g-200g from direct services |
| 01:03.01 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: How long did it take you to build up the capital for doing that? |
| 01:03.16 | Xinhuan | i started with 11k at the start of tbc |
| 01:03.19 | Diao | a stack of adamantite is only like 30g? |
| 01:03.21 | Xinhuan | 5k to buy all recipes/enchants |
| 01:03.23 | Diao | or 40g |
| 01:03.26 | Xinhuan | 6k for mount |
| 01:03.36 | Xuerian | Wtf? |
| 01:03.41 | Xinhuan | they are 19g on alliance side diao |
| 01:03.43 | Xuerian | Diao: Tell me what server you're on, I want to move there |
| 01:03.45 | Xinhuan | they were 24g last month |
| 01:03.52 | Xuerian | 17g on arathor >_< |
| 01:03.58 | Xinhuan | and 27g 2 months ago |
| 01:04.00 | Keias | still 24g horde side |
| 01:04.00 | Diao | lol |
| 01:04.06 | Xinhuan | its dropping in price, so i'm buying more |
| 01:04.43 | kaiden | question for ya'll, with no uiscale in place, how can the x/y coordinates that eePanels are placed on the screen give different results from person to person? |
| 01:05.03 | Diao | different resolutions? |
| 01:05.10 | kaiden | same system |
| 01:05.13 | kaiden | same scale |
| 01:05.18 | Diao | oh |
| 01:05.40 | Xinhuan | different anchor point? |
| 01:06.01 | kaiden | the anchor point is exactly the same for each character |
| 01:06.06 | kaiden | they use the exact same panels |
| 01:06.09 | Xinhuan | no idea then |
| 01:06.14 | kaiden | but the anchor points give different results for each |
| 01:06.17 | Xinhuan | i dont know how eepanels stores its coordinates |
| 01:06.34 | Xinhuan | whether it stores in layout-cache.txt or in itson SV |
| 01:06.36 | Xinhuan | own* |
| 01:07.20 | kaiden | Ok so basically 4 frames, the bottom 3 are anchored to the first, the first is anchored to chatframe1 |
| 01:07.20 | kaiden | on one character it's 100% correct, ont he broken character when i switch the anchorpoint of the first from ChatFrame1 to UIParent |
| 01:07.20 | Xinhuan | that would be the issue then |
| 01:07.23 | kaiden | the entire frame realigns |
| 01:07.31 | Xinhuan | because the anchor of chatframe1 is stored in layout-cache.txt |
| 01:07.31 | kaiden | and looks much better but still not like the 1st character |
| 01:07.38 | kenlyric_ | you know the only thing i use eepanels for is to give bartender3 a black background for empty slots. |
| 01:07.58 | Xinhuan | you will need to copy over that file between your chars |
| 01:08.00 | kaiden | yes but Xinhuan like just stated it's still not right even when anchored to UIParent :) |
| 01:08.03 | Xinhuan | to get a consistent look |
| 01:08.15 | kaiden | ok i'll try that |
| 01:08.46 | Xinhuan | note that logging out (over)writes a file |
| 01:08.49 | kenlyric_ | copying over chat cache would probably be good too, if you have settings you want them all to share. |
| 01:08.50 | Xinhuan | so log out first |
| 01:08.56 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 01:09.04 | kaiden | i copied the characters entire folder |
| 01:09.06 | kenlyric_ | oh, and evil recount. |
| 01:09.08 | kaiden | just to be safe |
| 01:09.09 | kaiden | :) |
| 01:09.17 | kenlyric_ | no profiles make baby jesus something something. |
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| 01:09.47 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r55656 10DrDamage/ (Data/Druid.lua DrDamage.toc): |
| 01:09.47 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 01:09.47 | CIA-8 | - Added Brambles to druid module. Version bump. |
| 01:10.20 | kaiden | we will just consider this an odd quirk, mmmkay :P |
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| 01:14.08 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r725 10/trunk/tekPopbar/Mainbar.lua: tekPopbar - Make fix with the button updatering |
| 01:20.29 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane / hyperChipmunk: OpenAll does similar stuff to BMI's opening. I haven't actually sat down and compared it, but I know they're both reverse-pickup. |
| 01:21.52 | NeoTron | Gagorian: did Shadow Ward get scaling added yet? |
| 01:22.10 | Xinhuan | NeoTron; not that i know off hehe |
| 01:22.12 | Xinhuan | of* |
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| 01:23.01 | kenlyric_ | except when it did. |
| 01:23.15 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r55657 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: koKR update |
| 01:23.18 | kenlyric_ | Shadow Ward: This spell now gains additional benefit from spell damage bonuses. Base absorb value of rank 4 has been reduced. |
| 01:23.37 | dhask | where's the druid buffs :( |
| 01:23.47 | Xinhuan | denied! |
| 01:23.57 | kenlyric_ | tree got buff in 2.3 |
| 01:24.04 | kenlyric_ | other druids die. |
| 01:24.22 | kenlyric_ | you got buffed in 2.0.1 like shadow priests, enjoy your slow decay. |
| 01:24.30 | dhask | well, we did get a FAP buff in 2.3 |
| 01:24.46 | Ellipsis | heehee, fap buff, that sounds dirty |
| 01:25.09 | kenlyric_ | soul siphon... what was the old bonus if it's 2/4% now? |
| 01:25.21 | Ellipsis | 2/5 |
| 01:25.25 | Ellipsis | or maybe 3/5 |
| 01:25.32 | Ellipsis | all I know is it went from 5% to 4% |
| 01:25.41 | kenlyric_ | somehow I saw the shadow ward change but not soul siphon. |
| 01:25.44 | Lukian | dhask, what are you whining about? ravage gets buffed in 2.3.2 :p |
| 01:25.45 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 01:26.02 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Yes it did |
| 01:26.06 | Gagorian | Just AB text |
| 01:26.07 | Gagorian | but still |
| 01:26.16 | dhask | lukian, hm, not in the notes I saw |
| 01:26.32 | dhask | off to check wow.com notes! |
| 01:26.39 | Lukian | dhask, then you missed the 2nd lot of notes |
| 01:26.45 | Lukian | Ravage (All Ranks) - Damage changed from 350% to 385% |
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| 01:27.22 | dhask | lukian, in the ptr forum? |
| 01:28.17 | dhask | oh, I see, in an unofficial thread and not otherwise listed |
| 01:28.22 | Lukian | wow forums are too slow :D |
| 01:28.24 | dhask | a buff's a buff! |
| 01:28.27 | Lukian | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 01:28.36 | dhask | (I don't *use* ravage much, but it's nice to know) |
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| 01:28.44 | Lukian | hehe me either |
| 01:28.46 | WobWork | unless that buff is not a buff but the famous Mr Ed? |
| 01:28.47 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r55658 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 01:28.47 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 01:28.47 | CIA-8 | - Changed the average total display for next melee attacks so I don't get more whine |
| 01:28.58 | dhask | could've been worse, they might have buffed rake to do 15% more damage |
| 01:29.13 | Lukian | rofl |
| 01:29.21 | Lukian | bleed immune mobs ftl |
| 01:29.44 | dhask | haven't been too many of those in the 25-mans so far |
| 01:30.03 | dhask | just a handful of KZ bosses, really |
| 01:30.28 | dhask | hmm, VR's not bleedable, is he? |
| 01:30.42 | dhask | I seem to recall spending all my time on VR shredding as the bear tank fed me mangles |
| 01:31.02 | WobWork | kitties can make use of any bleed effect, yeah? |
| 01:31.43 | dhask | wobwork, our only finishing move is a bleed |
| 01:31.55 | dhask | and typically accounts for somewhere near 20% of our total DPS output |
| 01:32.13 | Lukian | ferocious bite isn't a finishing move? :p |
| 01:32.24 | dhask | not that you should ever use in a raid setting, no |
| 01:32.30 | Lukian | hehe indeed |
| 01:32.36 | dhask | it's a finishing move in the same way that claw is a combo point builder |
| 01:33.06 | Lukian | claw hasn't been on my actionbars since 2.0 |
| 01:33.35 | WobWork | aha |
| 01:33.37 | dhask | I respecced boomkin for a ltitle while |
| 01:33.40 | dhask | and put it back on my bars |
| 01:33.46 | WobWork | I was under the impression that druids had something that fed off bleed effects |
| 01:33.49 | dhask | then when I returned to feral I was wondering why the hell my DPS was so bad |
| 01:34.00 | WobWork | when in fact mangle is the skill that bleed effects feed from |
| 01:34.06 | dhask | wobwork, right |
| 01:34.15 | dhask | wobwork, but we also rely on a bleed effect for our max dps output |
| 01:34.33 | Lukian | and mangle not only deals more damage, applies a bonus damage to bleed effects, but costs exactly the same energy as claw |
| 01:34.50 | dhask | mangle makes our Shred scale like a rogue's Backstab |
| 01:34.56 | Lukian | the mangle talent should reduce the energy cost of claw imo :) |
| 01:34.59 | dhask | at the mere cost of 40 energy and a gloal cooldown |
| 01:35.08 | dhask | lukian, it's supposed to replace claw entirely |
| 01:35.29 | Lukian | fair enough, but it seems silly to have an idle ability |
| 01:35.39 | dhask | ... rake? |
| 01:35.41 | dhask | tiger's fury? |
| 01:36.06 | dhask | I admit, sometimes I try to use rake vs paladins |
| 01:36.17 | WobWork | So as a rogue, I should be attempting to maintain a bleed as much as possible if with ferals? |
| 01:36.33 | dhask | wobwork, I don't know that your bleeds are worth it even with +30% |
| 01:38.38 | WobWork | +30% from rupture, +10% from Dirty Deeds + 36 from hemo |
| 01:39.12 | WobWork | +30 from mangle |
| 01:39.35 | Antiarc | WobWork: Rupture is your best PVE DPS finisher untalented without a feral. It just gets better from there. |
| 01:39.41 | Antiarc | Also: Hearthstone: The cast time on this item is no longer affected by spell haste. |
| 01:39.43 | Antiarc | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 01:39.48 | bigzero | lol |
| 01:39.51 | Antiarc | Heroism hearths were the best thing ever. :( |
| 01:40.07 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:40.17 | WobWork | Antiarc: That's what I figured |
| 01:40.25 | WobWork | cycles of s'n'd and rupture |
| 01:40.38 | Antiarc | WobWork: 25 energy vs 35 for evis basically guarantees that Rupture is always better DPE |
| 01:40.49 | Antiarc | And yeah, sub buffs + mangle are crazy |
| 01:40.59 | Antiarc | My rupture ticks for almost 500 on sub-35% bosses. It's pretty awesome. :D |
| 01:41.34 | WobWork | I should use it more in pvp |
| 01:41.37 | WobWork | in bgs |
| 01:41.51 | Antiarc | I've moved towards Expose Armor as a first finisher in PVP (arena) |
| 01:42.05 | WobWork | that's assuming followup from others =) |
| 01:42.13 | WobWork | I don't arena, so it's not quite so concentrated |
| 01:42.46 | Antiarc | Because expose armor on cloth/leather + passive armor penetration + serrated blades + potential WSC proc = why hallo thar you have 0 AC |
| 01:42.46 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:42.46 | WobWork | so true |
| 01:43.05 | kenlyric_ | curse these pies! |
| 01:43.10 | Diao | same reason i actually sunder people now |
| 01:43.11 | Diao | in arena |
| 01:43.18 | Diao | the 75 rage it takes to sunder a target fully is worth it |
| 01:43.20 | WobWork | omg threat =) |
| 01:43.23 | Diao | when my crit MS goes from 1400 to 2k+ damage |
| 01:43.27 | Diao | :)) |
| 01:43.47 | Diao | the damage output is insane when stacked with armor penetration and executioner procs |
| 01:43.48 | WobWork | "Wait for five sunders, guys!" |
| 01:44.05 | WobWork | "And if the 'lock Deep Breaths...." |
| 01:44.18 | kenlyric_ | I sunder while leveling |
| 01:45.14 | Diao | lol |
| 01:47.15 | dhask | wobwork, well ya, if you're using a bleed regularly having a feral along in the raid will help you |
| 01:47.25 | grennon | nice, see if you can spot the error in this example: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetQuestLogTitle |
| 01:47.40 | kenlyric_ | "wowwiki" |
| 01:48.26 | grennon | the other error |
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| 01:49.30 | WobWork | return? |
| 01:49.56 | grennon | if (not header) |
| 01:50.18 | dhask | should be isHeader, but shouldn't be a big deal |
| 01:50.26 | dhask | there's plenty else wrong with that code |
| 01:50.36 | dhask | like starting i at 0 and doing "i+1" in the call |
| 01:50.55 | kenlyric_ | huh? |
| 01:50.59 | dhask | and calling GetQuestLogTitle() twice every time through the loop |
| 01:51.03 | dhask | local i=0; |
| 01:51.04 | dhask | while (GetQuestLogTitle(i+1) ~= nil) do |
| 01:51.05 | dhask | ... |
| 01:51.07 | dhask | wtf |
| 01:51.09 | kenlyric_ | should it start at 17 |
| 01:51.11 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:51.16 | Diao | anyone know how to fix the gridmanabars taint? |
| 01:51.16 | kenlyric_ | oh. |
| 01:51.19 | dhask | "local i = 1; while GetQuestLogTitle(i) do ... end |
| 01:51.20 | kenlyric_ | i see |
| 01:51.38 | kenlyric_ | Diao: I did "uninstall", but that fix may not work for all. |
| 01:51.41 | Diao | lol |
| 01:51.47 | Diao | i prefer to see mana bars :( |
| 01:51.59 | Ellipsis | get more full-featured raid frames then :P |
| 01:51.59 | Xinhuan | well, the code there is merely an EXAMPLE ;p |
| 01:52.02 | Xinhuan | albeit a bad one |
| 01:52.06 | kenlyric_ | why is the rage bar full when it's empty? |
| 01:52.10 | kenlyric_ | I don't get that. |
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| 01:58.24 | kaiden | Anyone here familiar enough with Bartender to offer a bit of insight into the PetBar, the glowy effect of it has 2 animations unlike the default blizzard one which only shows 1 on the bar for activated abilities |
| 01:58.35 | kaiden | anyone know how to turn off that second animation that goes around the buttons |
| 01:58.38 | kaiden | :) ? |
| 01:59.50 | Azure | mhm... WAU2 should really delete unneeded old libs.. i just did a clean reinstall of all my Addons wo lie on the Ace-SVN, and like 15 Folders are gone.. ;) |
| 02:00.53 | WobWork | well how's it supposed to know they're old and not downloaded from somewhere else? |
| 02:00.56 | nymbia | least they don't get loaded if nothin uses em ;) |
| 02:02.38 | Azure | mhm.. maybe doing a toc scan, checking if some addons still uses it and else delete :) |
| 02:03.28 | dhask | hmm, anyone know offhand which .blp is the loot bag icon ? |
| 02:03.59 | WobWork | VoidReaver.blp |
| 02:04.03 | kaiden | nevcairiel where oh where could you be?!!?! :( |
| 02:04.11 | dhask | wobwork, chuckle |
| 02:04.45 | Azure | WobWork: that was a good one ;) |
| 02:08.50 | kenlyric_ | four word wars? |
| 02:08.55 | kenlyric_ | errr, mt |
| 02:10.48 | WobWork | That was three words |
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| 02:28.06 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
| 02:28.06 | CIA-8 | - fix for class output including class for every char to be rolled (spam) |
| 02:28.53 | dhask | fucking awesome |
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| 02:29.00 | dhask | a site just crashed firefox so badly it won't restart |
| 02:29.08 | Lukian | hahaha |
| 02:29.11 | dhask | and mail.app |
| 02:29.11 | buu | Hrm. |
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| 02:29.20 | buu | buubot: be glados > kenlyric_ |
| 02:29.28 | aestil | i used opera for a while. most sites don't work on it, so, yeah. as much as i liked it... |
| 02:29.34 | buu | AESTIL YOU DIRYT |
| 02:29.45 | Lukian | most? |
| 02:30.00 | aestil | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.21 | aestil | lukian last time i used it, like half the ones i frequent didn't display properly. |
| 02:30.35 | dhask | and now safari is on its way to Browser Heaven |
| 02:30.46 | Lukian | aestil, mm how long ago would that have been? |
| 02:30.49 | dhask | this site has a warning: |
| 02:31.00 | kenlyric_ | dhask: do you just need to delete parent.lock? |
| 02:31.04 | dhask | "Do /not/ close this window, refresh this Web page, click Back or Forward, or click a URL in another window. If you do so, the meeting will end." |
| 02:31.25 | dhask | kenlyric_, when I try to start it, it gets to asking if I want to restore a session, but whichever way I answer it then segfaults straight after |
| 02:31.28 | aestil | 7 to 9 months ago. |
| 02:31.39 | kenlyric_ | ooh nasty. |
| 02:31.50 | dhask | ooh, it's up... and it's down |
| 02:31.56 | grennon | i think isHeader from getquestlogtitle is bjorked in 2.3 |
| 02:32.01 | kenlyric_ | try a new profile see if htat helps. |
| 02:32.04 | Lukian | aestil, I'll give you a holler when 9.5 beta is decent :) |
| 02:32.11 | aestil | buu, did you need me? we go into BT tonight, hoping for first 3 bosses 'first kill' for us. |
| 02:32.12 | grennon | instead you need to check level > 0 to tell if a quest isnt a heaer |
| 02:32.45 | buu | aestil: =[ |
| 02:32.50 | grennon | are there level 0 quests in the game? |
| 02:32.51 | buu | aestil: Thanksgiving is fucking up our raiding. |
| 02:32.55 | aestil | Lukian: yeah, i don't think its opera's fault. i think they adhere very closesly to the standards. |
| 02:33.13 | Lukian | yeah they have to code for all the idiot webmasters ^^ |
| 02:33.14 | dhask | aestil, they adhere very closely to *some* standards |
| 02:33.15 | Lukian | hehe |
| 02:33.25 | aestil | *shrugs* |
| 02:33.30 | dhask | ok, looks like everything's fucked, rebooting |
| 02:34.28 | aestil | buu, we don't raid on thursday ever. so we should be good. BT then 2 nights of hyjal. |
| 02:35.54 | buu | aestil: Our normal raids are on thur/sun =/ |
| 02:36.16 | aestil | thursday is fail. |
| 02:36.41 | dhask | oh, I see what the problem was |
| 02:36.47 | dhask | it's a fucking JAVA applet |
| 02:36.49 | kenlyric_ | remember when tuesday was fail? |
| 02:36.59 | CIA-8 | 03starlon * r55660 10DebuffAlarm/ (DebuffAlarm.lua Localization_deDE.lua Localization_enUS.lua): |
| 02:36.59 | CIA-8 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 02:36.59 | CIA-8 | - Changed the way debuffs are added |
| 02:36.59 | CIA-8 | - Minor FuBar plugin tweaks |
| 02:37.22 | kenlyric_ | game broken all night tuesday. Then next week .1 patch broken all night again. |
| 02:37.38 | buu | aestil: Well, with friday out and tuesday sort of out.. |
| 02:38.03 | kenlyric_ | to many people at arena vendor to raid? |
| 02:38.26 | nymbia | the arena vendor is the place to be |
| 02:38.39 | aestil | wed/sun/mon is win. |
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| 02:39.00 | kenlyric_ | sunday is lose |
| 02:39.28 | aestil | sunday is win. |
| 02:39.43 | kenlyric_ | apart from the one thursday holiday a year, what's wrong with thursday? |
| 02:40.36 | dhask | lol |
| 02:40.39 | dhask | so here we are |
| 02:40.42 | dhask | all on the intarwebs |
| 02:40.45 | dhask | conferenced via a java applet |
| 02:40.52 | dhask | and we have to use the PSTN to dial in to hear each other or to talk |
| 02:41.07 | dhask | lrn2voip! |
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| 02:46.00 | Garoun|Loupana | Note to self, always log in to wow before closing or installing any mods with WAU ;/ |
| 02:47.04 | nymbia | why's that? |
| 02:47.04 | Garoun|Loupana | Having made no changes yet tanking and getting the constant red screen flash is beyond frustrating |
| 02:47.53 | Garoun|Loupana | forgot to check the update logs and omen and any other mod that would have screenflash had no config changes made :( |
| 02:48.24 | Garoun|Loupana | only update run was wau, and as I said, I forgot to review the logs after the update |
| 02:49.27 | Diao | Antiarc around? |
| 02:49.32 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 02:49.38 | CIA-8 | 03grennon * r55661 10Minimalist/Minimalist.lua: Minimalist: -Changed display quest levels in the quest log to not taint |
| 02:49.43 | Diao | is there any way to stop sanity from stealing the ctrl-t keybind |
| 02:49.49 | Diao | i keep binding it to something else and everytime i login it steals the bind |
| 02:49.50 | Diao | :( |
| 02:49.59 | Antiarc | That'll be Sanity |
| 02:50.10 | Antiarc | And it should respect unbinding once you've unbound it |
| 02:50.17 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:50.21 | Diao | i'll have to try it again with direct unbind |
| 02:50.27 | Diao | i was using spellbinder to bind ctrl-t to a macro |
| 02:50.33 | Diao | and everytime i logged in it went back to sanity |
| 02:50.33 | Diao | lol |
| 02:50.34 | Antiarc | If not just try binding the Sanity toggle to some other keybinding |
| 02:50.48 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's likely that it doesn't play nice with the direct bindings |
| 02:50.54 | Antiarc | I wrote that code before direct bindings were in place |
| 02:52.59 | Diao | ah ok |
| 02:53.19 | Diao | there we go |
| 02:53.22 | Diao | bound it to ctrl-shift-t |
| 02:53.22 | Diao | lol |
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| 03:15.49 | CIA-8 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 03:15.50 | CIA-8 | - Startup activate not setting correctly. |
| 03:15.50 | CIA-8 | - Incorrectly trying to set actions for invalid stances. |
| 03:15.50 | CIA-8 | - Pyramid configurations using invalid constants. |
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| 03:25.04 | Silowyi | Any guilds out there need a feral druid who has tanked all the way up to Leotheras? |
| 03:26.38 | Mudkipz | oh |
| 03:26.40 | Mudkipz | ummmm |
| 03:26.43 | Mudkipz | nope. |
| 03:27.25 | Silowyi | I'm pretty fucking tired of being the tier 2 feral druid for every consideration, in my guild, passed over for everything important, and all the other druid does is DPS, he doesn't even like tanking. His healing gear is worse than mine, and his DPS is worse than mine. Hell even his connection sucks, and we end up having to wait on him frequently. I've played two years longer than him. But he joined the guild two months before I did |
| 03:27.54 | CIA-8 | 03nymbia 07Ace3 * r55663 10Quartz/ (12 files in 12 dirs): |
| 03:27.54 | CIA-8 | Quartz: |
| 03:27.54 | CIA-8 | - Working on AceConfig-3.0 compat, part 1 |
| 03:28.04 | Silowyi | its fucking stupid |
| 03:29.04 | kaiden | Ace 3.0 *boggle* WHOO |
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| 03:29.36 | CIA-8 | 03chuanhsing * r55664 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 03:29.47 | kaiden | Silowyi, well tell your gm that |
| 03:30.14 | kenlyric_ | what kind of fucked up guild gives priority based entirely on length in guild? |
| 03:30.17 | Silowyi | I just did, which is why I expect I'll be looking for a new guild :P |
| 03:30.37 | Silowyi | kenlyric_: I've been in many guilds where seniority was more or less the only consideration |
| 03:30.38 | JoshBorke | nymbia: want any help with quartz? |
| 03:30.42 | kenlyric_ | oh, wait, you mean my first guild did that? |
| 03:30.43 | Mudkipz | oh sweet druid tears |
| 03:30.46 | Mudkipz | I bathe in thee |
| 03:31.16 | nymbia | JoshBorke: as far as switching it to ace3, or just in general? |
| 03:31.22 | Silowyi | Mudkipz: I do have a mage to that is perfectly capable of raiding T5 content :P I just enjoy tanking. |
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| 03:32.15 | kaiden | Josh, i got a project for you and i'll even pay you to do it ;P |
| 03:32.46 | kaiden | Code a PetBar module for FlexBar2 ;) |
| 03:33.58 | kenlyric_ | trunk gridpets! |
| 03:35.59 | Diao | that's a pretty bad loot system |
| 03:36.41 | Mudkipz | ya tanking is nice sometimes |
| 03:36.47 | Mudkipz | I just love walking in circles to avoid fires |
| 03:38.04 | kenlyric_ | tell me why I have wow blogs on my reader? |
| 03:38.17 | Mudkipz | you touch yourself at night |
| 03:38.20 | Mudkipz | anyway |
| 03:38.35 | kenlyric_ | they have one halfway useful post about leveling a class and 99.9% the rest is their bullshit raiding stories. |
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| 03:38.39 | kenlyric_ | "on to moroes!" |
| 03:38.41 | Mudkipz | Does wau-updater prune libs when you uninstall addons that no longer depend on them? |
| 03:38.50 | kenlyric_ | no. |
| 03:39.37 | kenlyric_ | assuming you mean disembedded, no. |
| 03:39.47 | Mudkipz | yes, that's what I meant |
| 03:41.42 | kenlyric_ | wau tracks dependencies, so I'm not sure how hard it would be to be able to see that. |
| 03:42.14 | kenlyric_ | well, for properly coded mods it does. |
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| 03:44.19 | Mudkipz | Is there some place I could suggest some kind of feature like that? |
| 03:45.20 | Fisker- | nymbia |
| 03:45.49 | JoshBorke | not touching FB2 with a 10 foot pole |
| 03:46.00 | kenlyric_ | sylv maybe. Probably low priority though. |
| 03:46.20 | Fisker- | one does not simply not touch FB2 with a 10 foot pole |
| 03:46.24 | kenlyric_ | but mostly you're going to know if a lib isn't being used. |
| 03:46.31 | nymbia | Fisker-: huh? |
| 03:47.08 | Fisker- | one does not simply switch to ace3 :( |
| 03:47.29 | nymbia | Fisker-: whys that? |
| 03:47.34 | nymbia | Fisker-: that's what the branch is for |
| 03:47.37 | kenlyric_ | one switches to rock, then regrets it. |
| 03:47.40 | Mudkipz | any point of having both AbacusLib and LibAbacus-3.0 ? |
| 03:47.47 | kenlyric_ | Mudkipz: probably |
| 03:48.02 | Fisker- | one does not simply walk into mordor either nymbia |
| 03:48.04 | kenlyric_ | Do text search in your mods directory for abacusLib and see what you get. |
| 03:48.19 | kenlyric_ | that's how i found out CorkFu was still using CompostLib. |
| 03:48.28 | Fisker- | bai :( |
| 03:48.28 | kenlyric_ | which was updated five months ago when someone tried to delete it :) |
| 03:48.31 | nymbia | Fisker-: WUt |
| 03:49.51 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: btw theres a stray global in the quartz swing module |
| 03:50.24 | Mudkipz | kenlyric_, the only thing that came up is the AbacusLib folder, toc file, and the changelog.txt |
| 03:50.33 | kenlyric_ | Mudkipz: If you want the lazy way, go through and uninstall/delete every lib you have. Then re-install all addons. |
| 03:50.39 | kenlyric_ | that'll get you only the libs you still need. |
| 03:51.03 | kenlyric_ | Mudkipz: provided you did a text search and not a file search, then maybe you don't use it anymore. |
| 03:51.44 | grennon | is there a builtin function that returns takes true or false and returns the opposite ? |
| 03:52.09 | Arrowmaster | yes, not |
| 03:52.15 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55665 10BankStack/sort.lua: BankStack: Stop the various sort-to-back options jumbling items up. |
| 03:52.16 | JoshBorke | grennon: not val |
| 03:52.29 | Arrowmaster | lua_bot> return not false |
| 03:52.43 | Arrowmaster | lua> return not false |
| 03:52.43 | JoshBorke | lua> return not false |
| 03:52.43 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 03:52.43 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: true |
| 03:52.49 | Arrowmaster | lua> return not true |
| 03:52.50 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 03:53.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> return not 1 |
| 03:53.00 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 03:53.03 | Arrowmaster | lua> return not 0 |
| 03:53.04 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 03:53.12 | Arrowmaster | lua> return not nil |
| 03:53.12 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 03:53.21 | JoshBorke | lua> return not not 1 |
| 03:53.21 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: true |
| 03:53.24 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: Did you track down the quest tainting? |
| 03:56.01 | Arrowmaster | havent really had time |
| 03:57.05 | Arrowmaster | but i know its something in the quest logs onevent tainting it before it does the ui_manageframepositions |
| 03:57.23 | grennon | im not the only guy who suffered from quest tainting? |
| 03:58.33 | Diao | delete the blizz luas? |
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| 04:00.39 | Elgrim | Anyone in here know if there is some buffmod I can limit to showing MY debuffs on target only? |
| 04:02.38 | Antiar1 | Quartz does it |
| 04:03.00 | Elgrim | Yep! true |
| 04:03.06 | Elgrim | quartz owns |
| 04:03.22 | Elgrim | but i couldnt configure it the way I wanted :( |
| 04:03.38 | Elgrim | I wanted icons |
| 04:03.47 | Elgrim | Quartz gives me bars right? |
| 04:04.58 | CIA-8 | 03grennon * r55666 10Minimalist/ (Minimalist.lua MinimalistGlobals.lua): Minimalist: -Added New Feature: Disable Chat Fading |
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| 04:08.48 | Arrowmaster | Elgrim: ElkBuffBars can do that too i think |
| 04:08.56 | Arrowmaster | and probably ClassTimers |
| 04:13.25 | aestil | 1 shot first BT boss, apparently second boss is considered 'easy' by comparsion |
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| 04:19.28 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55668 10LibTourist-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LibTourist-3.0: LibStub |
| 04:22.40 | Arrowmaster | that wasnt libstubed already? |
| 04:23.14 | Stanzilla | nah, pure rock |
| 04:23.42 | Arrowmaster | bah that should be framework independant |
| 04:23.47 | Arrowmaster | it has no events |
| 04:23.48 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 04:23.52 | Stanzilla | thx Kemayo for that |
| 04:23.54 | Arrowmaster | or anything else |
| 04:25.44 | Kemayo | There's a bunch of unnecessarily Rocky libs. Tourist was the just most useful-looking of them. |
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| 04:25.57 | Stanzilla | RollCall for example |
| 04:26.06 | Stanzilla | (LibRollCall-2.0) |
| 04:26.26 | Arrowmaster | does it have events? |
| 04:26.31 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 04:26.38 | Stanzilla | I'm just going thru the tocs |
| 04:27.41 | Kemayo | RollCall has events. |
| 04:27.52 | Stanzilla | Abacus? |
| 04:27.57 | Kemayo | No events. |
| 04:28.12 | Kemayo | These are the pointless ones: LibCrayon-3.0, LibAbacus-3.0, LibJostle-3.0 |
| 04:28.27 | Stanzilla | will you fix them all? |
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| 04:28.29 | Kemayo | Oh, and LibParser-4.0 I think. But I don't care because it's being obsoleted by 2.4 soorn. |
| 04:30.47 | Arrowmaster | if rollcall fires events then you cant really make it framework independent yet |
| 04:31.32 | Kemayo | I guess what we need is for someone to make a tiny all-frameworks event stub. |
| 04:32.19 | Arrowmaster | i thought ace3 was going to use something like that |
| 04:33.11 | Kemayo | I dunno -- I'm not familiar with the ace3 roadmap. |
| 04:33.58 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55669 10LibAbacus-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LibAbacus-3.0: LibStub |
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| 04:35.27 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55670 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.toc: LibAbacus-3.0: Forgot the dep. |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-8 | 03nymbia 07Ace3 * r55671 10Quartz/ (14 files in 14 dirs): |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-8 | Quartz: |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-8 | - More maybe compat with some AceConfig-3 action. |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-8 | - Drycoded, not that it'll run anyway. |
| 04:36.45 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: check www.wowwiki.com/LibStub or funkey will go off on you, dont think youre suppost to x-embed or optdep libstub |
| 04:37.09 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: Sorry, I wasn't specific enough in the commit note. That was removing the LibRock dep. |
| 04:37.16 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 04:37.54 | Arrowmaster | finishing up a raid so i didnt really have time to look at the commit myself |
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| 04:42.22 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55672 10LibCrayon-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LibCrayon-3.0: LibStub |
| 04:42.59 | Lukian | mm that's odd |
| 04:43.06 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55673 10LibCrayon-3.0/LibCrayon-3.0.toc: LibCrayon-3.0: +TOC |
| 04:43.12 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55674 10LibJostle-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LibJostle-3.0: LibStub |
| 04:43.21 | Lukian | do you ever have to restart wow for certain addon changes? |
| 04:43.27 | Kemayo | Yup. |
| 04:43.36 | Lukian | I just added localisation to mine before, and it was erroring stupidly at me |
| 04:43.40 | Kemayo | Anything that adds or moves a file needs a restart. |
| 04:44.08 | Kemayo | WoW builds up a file list on launch, and doesn't refresh it ever. |
| 04:44.38 | Lukian | weird :) but at least I'm happy its working now |
| 04:44.46 | Lukian | ah, the locale file wouldn't have been there |
| 04:45.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:28] <+Kemayo> Oh, and LibParser-4.0 I think. But I don't care because it's being obsoleted by 2.4 soorn. <--fix it anyway |
| 04:45.36 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 04:47.02 | Mudkipz | wow |
| 04:47.06 | Mudkipz | frost mages buffed much |
| 04:47.52 | Arrowmaster | now we may still have a LibParser in 2.4 but it will be a 5.0 if we do |
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| 04:48.35 | sag_ich_nicht | lvl 31 BM hunter, needs a new pet. has a bear. should be another bear. want a different one. suggestions? |
| 04:49.06 | Lukian | I'd suggest a boar |
| 04:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: 2.4 isn't coming "soon" and fixing it shouldn't take long judging from the time between the commits |
| 04:49.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't want a boar. |
| 04:49.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i want a bear. |
| 04:49.20 | Lukian | either way, use Petopia. |
| 04:49.22 | sag_ich_nicht | but i want a differently looking one |
| 04:49.24 | sag_ich_nicht | too lazy :P |
| 04:49.25 | Stanzilla | alterac has bears |
| 04:49.36 | sag_ich_nicht | level 31. |
| 04:49.44 | kaiden | alterac doesn't have bears |
| 04:49.45 | kaiden | lol |
| 04:49.48 | kaiden | it has cats |
| 04:49.49 | kaiden | :) |
| 04:49.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah use petopia |
| 04:50.02 | Stanzilla | kaiden: it does :( |
| 04:50.03 | kaiden | oh you mean av |
| 04:50.06 | kaiden | dunno about that |
| 04:50.10 | Stanzilla | I dont lol |
| 04:50.17 | kaiden | then you are cracee |
| 04:50.22 | Stanzilla | OKAY |
| 04:50.51 | Kemayo | sag_ich_nicht: On inspection, Parser4 uses Rock for slightly more than the others, and I am not motivated enough to change that. |
| 04:50.59 | kaiden | it's so fricken lame you can't tame the amani bears anymore |
| 04:51.10 | kaiden | wtf does blizz not let yout ame ANYTHING cool looking |
| 04:51.48 | kaiden | btw stan, i have that ui remade for non uiscale and all sorts of pimped out |
| 04:51.49 | kaiden | it's sexay |
| 04:51.52 | Lukian | I want a moose from azshara |
| 04:51.58 | Lukian | with charge |
| 04:52.00 | Stanzilla | kaiden: show me :P |
| 04:52.03 | Lukian | that would be hot |
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| 04:53.51 | kaiden | Stanzilla, http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Nooble_06.jpg |
| 04:54.05 | durcyn | Kemayo: your commits broke the backwards compatibility in Abacus. |
| 04:54.39 | kaiden | Stanzilla, http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Nooble_07.jpg has the omen bars shown |
| 04:54.46 | |Stan| | nice! |
| 04:55.08 | Lukian | is the suspend option I see in a lot of addons provided by a library or embedded? |
| 04:55.11 | kaiden | see told ya it could be nice even without uiscale going on |
| 04:55.14 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 04:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | after looking at petopia |
| 04:55.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i'm getting a scorpid :X |
| 04:55.23 | Arrowmaster | Lukian: acedb |
| 04:55.33 | kaiden | sag_ich_nicht, why? |
| 04:55.40 | sag_ich_nicht | because i feel like it |
| 04:55.45 | kaiden | there are only 2 good pets, boar and cat |
| 04:55.48 | sag_ich_nicht | not like there is much min/maxing to do at level 31 |
| 04:55.49 | kaiden | until you get to ravager |
| 04:55.51 | sag_ich_nicht | piss off 8D |
| 04:56.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i play this game for fun, not for min maxing :P |
| 04:56.14 | kaiden | i have an owl at 61 waiting for 62 so i can get a ravager |
| 04:56.18 | kaiden | min / maxing has nothing to do with it |
| 04:56.22 | kaiden | not pulling aggro off your pet does |
| 04:56.23 | kaiden | :P |
| 04:56.27 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r55675 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: koKR update |
| 04:56.45 | kenlyric | what do you mean. |
| 04:56.51 | kenlyric | ravager isn't any good at 62 |
| 04:57.00 | kaiden | kenlyric, is it not? |
| 04:57.02 | Kemayo | durcyn: Okay, let me look at that. |
| 04:57.10 | kenlyric | not if you want to keep aggro on your pet, no. |
| 04:57.22 | kaiden | kenlyric, with cobra reflexes it should be ok |
| 04:57.25 | kenlyric | ravager for groups |
| 04:57.29 | kaiden | i would imagine at least |
| 04:57.29 | kenlyric | but it's not. |
| 04:57.33 | kenlyric | seriously. |
| 04:57.41 | kaiden | i know my bird shouldn't be able to keep aggro but he holds aggro on 3 mobs at a time |
| 04:57.44 | kenlyric | your damage scales way out of whack with your pet's damage and Growl |
| 04:57.45 | kaiden | even with me multi shotting |
| 04:58.02 | kaiden | k what pet would you suggest then? |
| 04:58.06 | kenlyric | I had to break down at a get a boar at 63 because it just got worse and worse. |
| 04:58.17 | kenlyric | boar is for solo. |
| 04:58.29 | Lukian | 3k threat gain on opening moves |
| 04:58.32 | kenlyric | cat/ravager is for group. |
| 04:58.39 | kaiden | i'm dual boxing so ;) |
| 04:58.39 | Lukian | try to outdps that @ ~60 |
| 04:58.44 | kaiden | technically in a group |
| 04:59.17 | kaiden | well the way i see it is, a) charge 30 second cooldown or 25 or whatever it is |
| 04:59.28 | kaiden | i kill most mobs within 15 seconds |
| 04:59.36 | kaiden | that means i have to sit there and twiddle my thumbs before i move along |
| 04:59.42 | kenlyric | no. |
| 04:59.56 | kenlyric | you balance out all your cooldowns. |
| 05:00.28 | kaiden | meh, i seem to be doing absolutely fine not "balancing" :P |
| 05:00.34 | kenlyric | but hey, if ravager works for you, that's cool too. |
| 05:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm going to get a turtle and a scorpid, then i have the bite and claw for that level at least :P |
| 05:01.02 | kaiden | average dps is about 500 at 61 with a owl pet, and beast mastery spec'd |
| 05:01.13 | kenlyric | it's too bad about the turtle |
| 05:01.19 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55676 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0: Fix compat layer. |
| 05:01.35 | Kemayo | durcyn: Thanks for letting me know. |
| 05:02.41 | kenlyric | cat/ravager definitely does more damage, so if you're not pulling aggro, then by all means, enjoy. |
| 05:03.10 | kaiden | I just dont see a ton of hunters at 70 out solo'ing with boars |
| 05:03.36 | kaiden | also if it's so necessary to solo with why is the highest level one 60 ? just wondering is all |
| 05:03.42 | kaiden | i understand charge is a shitton of threat |
| 05:03.53 | kaiden | but the cooldown just seems bleh to me |
| 05:03.58 | kenlyric | well, it's also the speed, see? |
| 05:04.05 | kenlyric | dash has a cooldown too. |
| 05:04.05 | kaiden | the speed? |
| 05:04.12 | kenlyric | boar gets to mob instantly |
| 05:04.15 | grennon | does anyone know of a good non-fubar durability status mod? |
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| 05:04.24 | Ackis | wheee |
| 05:04.28 | kaiden | but dash / dive can go to more than 1 mob |
| 05:04.31 | kaiden | :) |
| 05:04.33 | kaiden | can charge? ;) |
| 05:04.37 | kenlyric | also, boar is pretty HAHA in BG. |
| 05:04.44 | dylanm | grennon: I think [Ammo] was working on something |
| 05:04.50 | kaiden | i usually round up 3 or 4 mobs and just fight them all |
| 05:05.12 | Ackis | ehh anyone use mIRC? |
| 05:05.12 | Arrowmaster | until like level 40 though boar has by far the best aggro gen of any pet |
| 05:05.14 | kenlyric | oh, then stop working so hard and get an owl |
| 05:05.15 | kaiden | kinda maximizing my usage of dash |
| 05:05.25 | kaiden | Arrowmaster, that's understood |
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| 05:05.44 | grennon | well, i had an old version of derkyles durabilitystatus i had ripped apart and put back together, but im trying to get rid of my "desk drawer" mods |
| 05:05.45 | kenlyric | and, of course, boars can learn dash *too* |
| 05:05.50 | kenlyric | though I've never seen that used before. |
| 05:05.54 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55678 10LibCrayon-3.0/LibCrayon-3.0.lua: LibCrayon-3.0: Fix compat. |
| 05:05.54 | Arrowmaster | its reduced damage is what makes other pets better than it at higher levels |
| 05:05.55 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55679 10LibJostle-3.0/LibJostle-3.0.lua: LibJostle-3.0: Fix compat. |
| 05:06.12 | Arrowmaster | dash and charge share same cooldown |
| 05:06.25 | Arrowmaster | so its kinda pointless to train a boar dash |
| 05:06.54 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: for raw aggro production single target nothing beats a boar at any level. |
| 05:07.07 | kenlyric | unless it's a 5 minute fight. |
| 05:07.36 | kaiden | nobody has one single time disputed that boars generate the most aggro |
| 05:07.43 | kaiden | the only thing being disputed is.. is it necessary? |
| 05:07.57 | Arrowmaster | ive heard that some pets with greater than 100% damage can do better than boar though because of BM talents |
| 05:08.13 | kaiden | exactly what i'm saying arrowmaster |
| 05:08.14 | Arrowmaster | since boar has like 90% damage |
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| 05:09.29 | kenlyric | seems sensible enough. |
| 05:09.34 | kenlyric | now, let's fight about stamina vs armor. |
| 05:10.06 | Arrowmaster | stam > armor prob |
| 05:10.18 | Ackis | so uhhh I just did a clean install of everything, and previously I had my package for add-ons in the add-on directory, now they seem to be pusehd down to a sub-level (ie: pitbull has all it's modules below the sub-dir now). was that changed recently or did I bugger up a setting in WAU? |
| 05:10.45 | kaiden | you buggered up the settings |
| 05:10.47 | kaiden | :) |
| 05:10.57 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: meaning you have PitBull and PitBull_modulename both in the addons dir? |
| 05:11.11 | kenlyric | for groups i'd agree... but I find armor more useful solo. |
| 05:11.12 | Ackis | no arrow, I just have pitbull now and everything is below it |
| 05:11.19 | kaiden | armor > sta |
| 05:11.23 | kenlyric | simply because mend pets scale better with armor |
| 05:11.26 | Arrowmaster | then yeah you buggered something |
| 05:11.40 | kaiden | armor can reduce the amount of damage you take, whereas sta you still have a floor that you hit you die |
| 05:11.42 | Ackis | alright, at leas tI know I have to start looking now lol |
| 05:12.36 | rubik_ | is there another addon out there like PerfectTargets? (i.e. that is just a simple frame that shows you mobs targetted by your group and how many people are targetting each)? |
| 05:15.04 | kenlyric | One of these days I'm going to do the math on stamina vs damage between ravagers and cats to prove cats are better. cause I miss my mr kitty |
| 05:15.59 | kaiden | pretty sure ravagers are better simply because of the 50% crit chance on gore |
| 05:16.02 | kaiden | and the fact it has no cooldown |
| 05:16.08 | kaiden | so that with go for the throat == massive dps |
| 05:16.20 | kaiden | then again claw also has no cooldown |
| 05:16.24 | kaiden | so.. meh.. that's thrown out |
| 05:16.46 | WobWork | Gore has a better dps than claw |
| 05:16.50 | kaiden | true |
| 05:17.27 | kenlyric | gore is greater dps than claw, but it's fairly small percent. 3ps increase. |
| 05:17.47 | kenlyric | and your specials only end up being 20-25% damage anyway. |
| 05:17.54 | WobWork | and also, with the new reduction in deadzone, kiting is easier, so threat -isn't- quite so much a factor for solo work |
| 05:18.43 | Ackis | whee think i fixed it, thanks <3 |
| 05:18.46 | WobWork | cause omg, wingclip + steadyshot is possible =) |
| 05:19.22 | Lukian | wow, why am I having so much hassle trying to add cli chat commands to my addon :/ |
| 05:19.42 | kaiden | kenlyric, i hate you... |
| 05:19.45 | kaiden | i have to level my boar now |
| 05:19.53 | kaiden | just to see if there's a difference in aggro holding |
| 05:19.54 | kaiden | lol |
| 05:20.04 | kenlyric | i just pulled aggro off a level 63 mob. |
| 05:20.24 | kaiden | well it's going to SUCK since charge vs ANYTHING higher level than your pet gets resisted 9 times out of 10 |
| 05:20.29 | kaiden | doesn't matter if the mob is only 1 level above your pet |
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| 05:20.54 | Ackis | ugh, my new pc case has a big 200mm fan on top, and the air blowing is giving me goosebumps lol |
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| 05:21.49 | kenlyric | 4% to pet hit cuts most of those out. |
| 05:22.09 | kaiden | oh i've always skipped getting that ability, bleh i dun wanna respec again |
| 05:22.18 | kaiden | was so happy was about to get go for the throat rank 1! |
| 05:22.57 | sag_ich_nicht | wtb annoying ding mod |
| 05:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | suggestions? |
| 05:23.13 | kaiden | Prat can auto ding can't it? |
| 05:23.18 | kaiden | if not automaton can |
| 05:23.23 | kaiden | oh and ding 62 :P |
| 05:23.41 | sag_ich_nicht | gz |
| 05:23.42 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 05:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't use prat |
| 05:23.50 | sag_ich_nicht | in fact |
| 05:23.51 | kenlyric | automaton can. |
| 05:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate prat |
| 05:24.02 | sag_ich_nicht | okay i'll take a look, thanks |
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| 05:24.18 | kenlyric | I just turned on another automaton plugin. so now i'm up to five. |
| 05:24.47 | kenlyric | so, ravager = 40dps increase, so I basically just have to hope the mob dies fast enough so It can't get to me. |
| 05:24.48 | kaiden | i've been using tweakhub here lately instead |
| 05:25.03 | kaiden | kenlyric, have you bothered trying cobra reflexes yet? |
| 05:25.14 | kenlyric | always have cobra reflexes. |
| 05:25.18 | kaiden | i found the instant i got cobra reflexes it didn't matter what pet i had.. they could all maintain aggro |
| 05:25.24 | kaiden | meh :/ dunno then |
| 05:25.24 | kenlyric | first points I spent on any pet |
| 05:25.28 | kaiden | is your gear REALLY good? |
| 05:25.30 | kaiden | maybe that's why |
| 05:26.06 | kenlyric | solo quest greens |
| 05:26.19 | kaiden | hrm then i dunno, what level are ya? 70? |
| 05:26.32 | kenlyric | yeah |
| 05:26.48 | kaiden | then i really dont know as i'm not seeing the same results as you |
| 05:27.08 | kaiden | about to drop my owl off at a stable and train a thornfang ravager just to see |
| 05:27.27 | kenlyric | wait, you have an owl? |
| 05:27.31 | kaiden | yes |
| 05:27.33 | Bejitt- | do you have GftT and Bestial Disc? |
| 05:27.42 | kenlyric | with screech? |
| 05:27.45 | kaiden | GftT? |
| 05:27.50 | kaiden | kenlyric, yes, screech rocks ; |
| 05:27.56 | Bejitt- | go for the throat |
| 05:27.56 | kaiden | oh yeah |
| 05:27.58 | kenlyric | yeah, well screech is huge aggro too. |
| 05:28.04 | kaiden | just got my first rank of gftt |
| 05:28.14 | kaiden | kenlyric, screech is VERY nice, i really like it |
| 05:28.35 | kaiden | i'm just gonna see if a ravager is better for dps, if not then i'll stick with the owl |
| 05:28.45 | kaiden | because he's really having no trouble holding aggro even when i open up with dps immediately |
| 05:28.56 | kaiden | just never has focus but i haven't tried it with gftt |
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| 05:33.24 | kenlyric | level 60 growl is just not ready for the fact that your AP doubles the first 30 minutes in hellfire. |
| 05:33.41 | kenlyric | this might be a slight exaggeration. |
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| 05:35.18 | dhask | my huntard has always had, and always will have, a mazzrenache named Floyd |
| 05:35.25 | kaiden | lol |
| 05:35.34 | dhask | he totally sucks, his dps blows, his armor is weak, but damnit, he's PINK |
| 05:35.35 | kaiden | why not tame one of the new ones out on that island |
| 05:35.39 | dhask | they're not pink |
| 05:35.50 | kaiden | i thought they were |
| 05:35.52 | dhask | they also don't show the dedication it takes to tame a level 9 rare spawn and take it to level 62 or so |
| 05:35.52 | kaiden | like bright pink |
| 05:36.16 | WobWork | it's true |
| 05:36.20 | WobWork | As a hunter |
| 05:36.26 | WobWork | you get the admiration of your collegues |
| 05:36.32 | WobWork | if you have a high level pink floyd |
| 05:36.33 | dhask | hmm, I was out there for druid epic flight, I didn't think they were quite as pink as mazzrenache |
| 05:36.33 | CIA-8 | 03nymbia 07Ace3 * r55680 10Quartz/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 05:36.33 | CIA-8 | Quartz: |
| 05:36.33 | CIA-8 | - Maybe event fixes. Maybe more breakage. I dunno, since it's still drycoded. |
| 05:36.44 | kaiden | Gore + Growl + 105tps |
| 05:36.46 | dhask | there's the new ghost wolf though, that's fuckin awesome with TBW |
| 05:36.53 | kaiden | Bite + Growl = 150 tps |
| 05:37.12 | kaiden | my bird with growl, claw, screech was only 150tps |
| 05:37.33 | dhask | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_losttorranche.shtml |
| 05:37.34 | dhask | not pink |
| 05:37.36 | dhask | purple! |
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| 05:37.48 | dispel | i dont like adys from wowwiki |
| 05:38.22 | dhask | I had a clutchmother at one point, too |
| 05:38.35 | kaiden | LOL |
| 05:38.47 | dhask | was gonna just whip her out in the middle of a ZG run and see if (a) the raid noticed that Floyd was now cyan, and (b) if the mobs poured in from half the zone away to kill her |
| 05:38.54 | kenlyric | I miss my baby |
| 05:39.02 | kenlyric | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/skins/skin_lynxskinred.shtml should go back and get it. |
| 05:39.12 | dhask | 2.4 = faster pet levelling! |
| 05:39.22 | dhask | ken, that one's pretty cool |
| 05:39.30 | dhask | oh, boob elf pet |
| 05:39.39 | kaiden | it's retarded that pets have to be leveled imo |
| 05:39.40 | kenlyric | I like it because most other people get the level 10 ones that aren't red. |
| 05:39.49 | kenlyric | the ones you can also get in outland. |
| 05:39.56 | kaiden | they should be the level of the hunter imo |
| 05:40.13 | kenlyric | but then how would pets and hunters BOND |
| 05:40.23 | kenlyric | you don't think RP enough. |
| 05:40.35 | kaiden | kenlyric, ok .. lets rp.. |
| 05:40.40 | kaiden | why do demons not need sustenance? |
| 05:40.41 | kaiden | :) |
| 05:40.43 | dhask | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/21/ghost-wolf-the-newest-rarest-pet/ |
| 05:40.46 | dhask | that one is awesome |
| 05:40.50 | kenlyric | they feed off the souls you kill |
| 05:41.04 | kaiden | what nutritional value could a soul have.. |
| 05:41.09 | dhask | kaiden, because if they give you any lip you'll just sacrifice them and summon a new one? |
| 05:41.10 | kaiden | and that i could believe for void walkers |
| 05:41.13 | kaiden | but none of the other pets |
| 05:41.20 | dhask | felhunter devours magic! |
| 05:41.21 | kenlyric | cats per square ironing board. |
| 05:42.00 | kenlyric | the succubus definitely steals souls. |
| 05:42.10 | dhask | woot, guild got nalorakk down in <20min this time in |
| 05:42.13 | kenlyric | and the imp probably just nibbles on corpses. |
| 05:42.24 | dhask | ugh, and Fury went to our slacktastic enhancement shaman |
| 05:42.32 | dhask | oh sweet, they got a new boss down too |
| 05:43.44 | dhask | the imp can have a knucle sandwich, the mouthy little shit |
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| 05:44.38 | kenlyric | seriously. |
| 05:45.05 | kenlyric | I want scoop out the brains of the person who implemented that to see what's wrong with them. |
| 05:45.47 | Ellipsis | oh, are we talking about demon voices now? |
| 05:45.48 | dhask | you mean the voice acting for the pets? |
| 05:45.48 | kenlyric | what can I use instead of Find Herbs and Find Minerals for quartz global cooldown? |
| 05:45.53 | kenlyric | acting? |
| 05:45.59 | durcyn | Find Fish =P |
| 05:46.03 | kenlyric | you mean the constant repetative blathering for hours and hours and shut UP! |
| 05:46.04 | Ellipsis | sense demons! |
| 05:46.07 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 05:46.10 | kenlyric | things I have |
| 05:46.17 | kenlyric | ps... go to AH to buy find fish. |
| 05:46.41 | Bejitt- | but.. but.. he wants to see other warlocks!~ |
| 05:47.00 | Arrowmaster | you cant buy find fish afaik |
| 05:47.22 | durcyn | it's BOP |
| 05:47.40 | Arrowmaster | you can trade the crate its in but you cant put containers on the AH |
| 05:47.57 | kenlyric | so I gotta fish to find fish. |
| 05:48.01 | Arrowmaster | and if you already know know it or have a scroll you wont be able to see the scroll in another crate |
| 05:48.21 | Arrowmaster | i gave a crate to a friend and he got the scroll from it |
| 05:48.35 | Arrowmaster | whats your fishing at? |
| 05:48.39 | kenlyric | maybe I"ll find a golden darter pool and not completely waste my time. |
| 05:48.39 | dhask | 1 |
| 05:49.06 | kenlyric | 395 + lure |
| 05:49.13 | Ozguli- | Goldscale vendorfish! |
| 05:49.29 | aestil | shade of akama pulls. for sure we won't kill him tonight though |
| 05:49.34 | Arrowmaster | i got mine from zangarmarsh perty quickly from feltail and sporefish pools |
| 05:49.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:46] <Ellipsis> sense demons! <--WANT |
| 05:49.40 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 05:49.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i demand that sense undead be turned into sense evil |
| 05:49.58 | sag_ich_nicht | and tracks undead and demons |
| 05:49.59 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 05:50.03 | Arrowmaster | just dont try fishing in the steam pump wreakage because those crates dont drop it much if they do at all |
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| 05:50.04 | Ellipsis | why? |
| 05:50.26 | sag_ich_nicht | for the same reason that exorcism was changed to affect demons# |
| 05:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | -# |
| 05:51.07 | sag_ich_nicht | and so i can find you easier, Ellipsis |
| 05:51.08 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 05:51.28 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
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| 05:52.03 | Ellipsis | how did you know I'm a succubus? |
| 05:53.33 | WobWork | I think it was the whip |
| 05:53.37 | WobWork | That always gives it away |
| 05:54.09 | Ellipsis | what whip? |
| 05:54.33 | aestil | Ellipsis: spank yourself! |
| 05:54.40 | kenlyric | i wonder what other 2.3 stuff I've forgotten. |
| 05:54.51 | dhask | ellipsis, get a 14yo boy banned from wow! |
| 05:54.57 | kenlyric | any cooking recipes outside the dailies? |
| 05:55.22 | Ellipsis | dhask wins |
| 05:55.34 | Ellipsis | not til winter veil |
| 05:56.20 | kenlyric | ooooh, i finally broke 1600 healing and got rid of my last two greens. |
| 05:56.36 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 05:56.49 | Diao | grats |
| 05:56.49 | Arrowmaster | you know im thinking that using getglobal() may be an even worse idea than we thought |
| 05:56.50 | Diao | also |
| 05:56.51 | Diao | lol |
| 05:56.54 | kenlyric | i'm nearly read for void reaver |
| 05:56.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm still using heavenly inspriation. :( |
| 05:56.59 | Diao | playing my friend's pally |
| 05:57.04 | Diao | she changed her hotkeys around |
| 05:57.06 | Diao | put DI next to DS |
| 05:57.14 | Diao | i meant to hit DS and hit the wrong hotkey while healing in ab... |
| 05:57.15 | Diao | :( |
| 05:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: hilarity ensues? |
| 05:57.19 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: just get rid of it. |
| 05:57.28 | Arrowmaster | it seems to cause messages in taint.log when used by insecure addons |
| 05:57.28 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: ... but.. but.. 10 mp/5 :( |
| 05:57.29 | kenlyric | replaced it with lower city prayerbook. |
| 05:57.34 | Diao | it was me and a resto druid at the mines |
| 05:57.37 | kenlyric | yeah, but, mediation buff. |
| 05:57.38 | Diao | we were just healing each other |
| 05:57.44 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: ... shaman. |
| 05:57.48 | Diao | killed myself for lols :( |
| 05:57.50 | kenlyric | it was a lot less of a loss than it used to be for me |
| 05:58.50 | Cyerie | lower city prayer book is nice |
| 05:59.16 | aestil | lol shade of akama is bugged. |
| 05:59.23 | aestil | we'll kill him on our first time seeing him. stupid. |
| 05:59.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno, i'm not sold on the prayer book. |
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| 06:00.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I use it a fair bit, but usually because on boss fights its better than scarab of the infinite cycle |
| 06:00.20 | kenlyric | I use both. |
| 06:00.27 | kenlyric | those are the only two blues I have :) |
| 06:00.41 | Cyerie | I used two for a long time |
| 06:00.46 | Cyerie | prayerbooks that is |
| 06:00.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i use heavenly inspiration plus ither LCPB or scarab |
| 06:01.02 | Cyerie | BM trinket / ribbon from kara replaced |
| 06:01.46 | kenlyric | scarab is the only trinket that's dropped for me since Mar'li's eye. |
| 06:02.11 | Cyerie | That's a great trinket. <3 spell haste |
| 06:03.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I've been using scarab a lot more since 2.3 since i got some regen buffs and don't quite need the lcpb |
| 06:03.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ding, level 32 |
| 06:03.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | frankly |
| 06:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | if i could get a warp scarab brooch,i'd probably use that + heavenly inspiration |
| 06:04.27 | Ellipsis | grats on fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 06:04.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't even want to level, just wanted to level the pet :X |
| 06:04.43 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up, that hunter was my first char on release :P |
| 06:04.53 | Ellipsis | at least my first char is 70 |
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| 06:05.42 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 06:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | my first character was an undead warlock |
| 06:05.52 | sag_ich_nicht | and he was max level cap |
| 06:05.59 | sag_ich_nicht | (of level 30, back in the beta.) |
| 06:06.02 | Aeyan | Noobs aside, I think my fifth character was the first to make it to 60 or 70 |
| 06:06.05 | Cyerie | It does have a lot of mana regen |
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| 06:06.15 | Cyerie | There's a lot to be said for mana regen |
| 06:06.51 | CIA-8 | 03scorpion * r55681 10Nauticus/Locales/ (locale.zhCN.lua locale.zhTW.lua): |
| 06:06.52 | CIA-8 | Nauticus: |
| 06:06.52 | CIA-8 | - update zhTW localization |
| 06:06.52 | CIA-8 | - update zhCN localization |
| 06:06.57 | Cyerie | It was a wonderful trinket especially in the arena, back when we could swap equipment out of combat. |
| 06:07.00 | Mudkipz | o_o |
| 06:07.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Cyerie: yeah, for me, that's one of my biggest problems right now :\ |
| 06:07.46 | Cyerie | Oh likewise--I go with stamina trinkets now, but I'm always afraid of being cc-ed |
| 06:07.54 | Cyerie | In the arena, that is |
| 06:08.04 | NightHawkTheSane | right now i'm sitting at 1600 +heal unbuffed, and 125 mp/5 unbuffed. *shrug* |
| 06:08.18 | NightHawkTheSane | well, I don't pvp at all, so I'm mostly thinking about raids |
| 06:09.06 | aestil | haha, ok, shade of akama dead. |
| 06:10.00 | kenlyric | i was at 237, dropped to 227 |
| 06:10.15 | Cyerie | Well that's pretty darn good! |
| 06:10.18 | Cyerie | Are you a druid? |
| 06:10.24 | kenlyric | priest |
| 06:10.29 | Cyerie | Something you said a moment ago made me think druid. |
| 06:10.37 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 06:10.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:51] <Ellipsis> how did you know I'm a succubus? <--i didn't. i meant the warlock pet |
| 06:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | but now i know |
| 06:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 06:10.47 | kenlyric | lost 10mp5 gained over 100 healing. Good trade. |
| 06:10.49 | Cyerie | NightHawkTheSane: druid? |
| 06:11.03 | Cyerie | Hm |
| 06:11.06 | NightHawkTheSane | shaman |
| 06:11.17 | Cyerie | kenlyric: I'm not sure I would make that trade..I'd have to think about it. |
| 06:11.23 | Cyerie | Situational, I suppose |
| 06:11.39 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell |
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| 06:11.46 | Cyerie | NightHawkTheSane: Ahhh okay. =) |
| 06:11.53 | kenlyric | a lot easer at 237 than it was at 183 |
| 06:11.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm already 15% into 33 |
| 06:12.06 | sag_ich_nicht | new leveling curve is faaaaast |
| 06:12.22 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 06:12.51 | kenlyric | besides I was tired of being under 1500 healing.My gear wasn't *that* pre-kara scrub :) |
| 06:12.55 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: hmm, 10 mp/5 vs 100 heal? tbh, i'd probably take the 100 +heal even with my mp/5 level. |
| 06:13.10 | kenlyric | and also... got rid of greens. So. win win win |
| 06:13.29 | kenlyric | as I said, read for void reaver! |
| 06:13.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i've been considering an essence of the martyr, actually. |
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| 06:13.39 | Cyerie | I have one of those |
| 06:13.42 | kenlyric | *ready |
| 06:13.47 | Cyerie | And I've been thinking about it actually... |
| 06:13.49 | Bruners | wearing greens is not an option :P |
| 06:13.56 | hypetech | Anybody know what mod is making it impossible to use the guild control interface? Keeps renaming ranks and whatnot |
| 06:13.57 | NightHawkTheSane | but i'd rather spend my badges on the mail healing gear |
| 06:14.13 | kenlyric | Bruners: 10mp5 is pretty hot, green or not. |
| 06:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | geez i could probably hit 50 by noon if the curve continues to be that steep |
| 06:14.20 | aestil | i wonder what 4 bosses in hyjal and first 3 in BT gets us as far as ranking on wowjutsu? |
| 06:14.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hypetech: i've heard it's rollcall related |
| 06:14.27 | kenlyric | and that of the prophet neck was pretty hot too. |
| 06:14.37 | hypetech | NightHawkTheSane: I don't have rollcall |
| 06:14.41 | hypetech | I don't think |
| 06:14.47 | NightHawkTheSane | hypetech: it's a library |
| 06:14.51 | hypetech | ah |
| 06:14.53 | Bruners | kenlyric: i know |
| 06:15.04 | hypetech | what mods use it? |
| 06:15.09 | NightHawkTheSane | no idea, honestly |
| 06:15.13 | hypetech | =\ |
| 06:15.13 | hypetech | k |
| 06:15.17 | kenlyric | oh yeah, I'd need badges first. |
| 06:15.38 | Cyerie | While the +heal is very nice, the effect of the scarab is so much better! And in pvp, the extra 45 stamina of Netherwing trink or 36 sta / 45 resist of violet badge trink is so much better. |
| 06:15.40 | kenlyric | i'm actually slightly maybe considering finding some kara group to get badged up on and maybe replace some more blues. |
| 06:16.07 | Cyerie | I'm not so sure about it anymore =x |
| 06:16.07 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, its kinda sad but the biggest reason i like doing kara now is for the badges |
| 06:16.15 | Cyerie | hehe |
| 06:16.38 | NightHawkTheSane | that mail healing gear is pretty damn sexy though |
| 06:17.05 | Cyerie | It's excellent :D Better than plate! hehe |
| 06:17.10 | Cyerie | But it is ugly =\ |
| 06:17.21 | Cyerie | (All of it is, imo--the new stuff) |
| 06:18.00 | kenlyric | my blues are pants, 1 ring, wand, weapon, cloak. So most of that from kara. |
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| 06:18.19 | kenlyric | I wish keeper's ring of piety wasn't so awesome. |
| 06:18.34 | kenlyric | so I could wear my headless horseman ring. |
| 06:18.49 | Cyerie | kenlyric: Hehe :D that's a great priesty ring |
| 06:19.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i should just go level in EPL |
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| 06:19.22 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 06:19.22 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
| 06:19.27 | sag_ich_nicht | these mobs down here die too easy |
| 06:19.49 | kenlyric | stupid fishing! |
| 06:20.25 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i'll head to EPL now |
| 06:20.26 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 06:20.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *WPL |
| 06:20.32 | sag_ich_nicht | just to see if i can kill something |
| 06:20.35 | sag_ich_nicht | probably can :X |
| 06:21.09 | Cyerie | kenlyric: I was curious, as a priest for healing, is it better to go with the pearl gems for spirit and heal, or the straight regen? Is the spirit enough to give a good benefit over the straight regen? |
| 06:21.22 | CIA-8 | 03morgalm * r55683 10MorgDKP/ (BidQuery.lua DKPInfo.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
| 06:21.22 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
| 06:21.22 | CIA-8 | - fix itempoints actually being player points in raid chat |
| 06:22.02 | kenlyric | ok, I am behind. |
| 06:22.10 | sag_ich_nicht | 11/22/07 07:21:44> You have learned a new spell: Shell Shield (Rank 1). |
| 06:22.14 | sag_ich_nicht | wait where did that come from |
| 06:22.20 | kenlyric | oh, no. |
| 06:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | your pet? |
| 06:22.33 | kenlyric | you learn it from your pet so you can train other pets. |
| 06:22.34 | sag_ich_nicht | oh |
| 06:22.36 | sag_ich_nicht | loyalty increase |
| 06:22.38 | sag_ich_nicht | no nevermind |
| 06:22.40 | kenlyric | Cyerie: no. |
| 06:22.45 | sag_ich_nicht | been a long time since i played my hunter :P |
| 06:22.56 | kenlyric | 9h/2mp5 gems still are best because the gain the rounding bonus. |
| 06:23.03 | kenlyric | *they |
| 06:23.18 | Cyerie | Ahhh, okay. :) |
| 06:23.36 | NightHawkTheSane | go go royal nightseye |
| 06:24.08 | |Stan| | http://img4.pictiger.com/c4b/13156485.jpg?u=1195699121 |
| 06:24.13 | Cyerie | Hehe :D That's my favorite! I play a paladin healer though, so the int gives me a +heal bonus too |
| 06:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | same on my shaman, but it's not really enough to itemize for it in gems. |
| 06:24.46 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 06:24.55 | sag_ich_nicht | freezing trap resisted, faint death resisted |
| 06:24.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 06:24.56 | NightHawkTheSane | only really if you need an orange gem or something |
| 06:25.13 | Cyerie | True, but I get a grin from just knowing I'm getting a double benefit. hehehe |
| 06:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. :) |
| 06:25.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i like getting 30% +damage/heal from int. |
| 06:25.35 | NightHawkTheSane | rather nice boost when grinding as well |
| 06:25.57 | Cyerie | Sure is! |
| 06:26.17 | Cyerie | I can actually do a little bit of dps now, which is super nice. |
| 06:26.24 | Cyerie | I'm so used to the long-winded battles. |
| 06:27.28 | kenlyric | shit,a couple kara's if nothing drops I can just buy it all at the badge vendor. |
| 06:27.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, thats more or less been my plan. though i got lucky yesterday and got three drops from 5 bosses in kara >.> |
| 06:28.28 | Diao | lol |
| 06:28.36 | Diao | you should've seen this one lock we took to kara |
| 06:28.41 | Diao | he got 9 upgrades in 1 run :( |
| 06:28.53 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, good for him, i guess |
| 06:28.56 | Diao | fully uncontested |
| 06:29.09 | Diao | no fair imo lol |
| 06:29.15 | Diao | blizzard needs to fix their RNG |
| 06:29.20 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 06:29.31 | NightHawkTheSane | there's nothing wrong with their rng ;) |
| 06:29.36 | Bruners | rng? |
| 06:29.49 | Diao | random number generator |
| 06:29.58 | Diao | i've been after the same drops for months |
| 06:30.03 | Diao | and they still haven't dropped :\ |
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| 06:31.39 | kenlyric | it's why I can't bring myself to go after drops |
| 06:32.12 | kenlyric | And the only reason I dind't spend months in The Botanica http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28370 |
| 06:34.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i've more or less given up rying to get a shiffar's nexus horn >< |
| 06:35.26 | Diao | as a healer? |
| 06:36.10 | NightHawkTheSane | well, for my dps agear |
| 06:36.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i sometimes spec elemental |
| 06:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | plus, for grinding and whatnot |
| 06:41.39 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 06:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | that is one mean hunter trick |
| 06:42.08 | sag_ich_nicht | swaping weapons to Precisely Calibrated Boomstick or Hurricane when oom to fill up on judgement of wisdome |
| 06:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *wisdom |
| 06:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 06:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Program:C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 06:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | File:.\MapMem.cpp |
| 06:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Line:460 |
| 06:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Requested 1706762 bytes of memory |
| 06:43.01 | sag_ich_nicht | out of memory error, once again |
| 06:43.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i still had 300 MB of memory free -.- |
| 06:43.17 | hyperChipmunk | sag_ich_nicht: those faster than GM bow? |
| 06:43.37 | sag_ich_nicht | hurricane is 1.6, boomstick is 1.5 |
| 06:43.42 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 06:43.48 | hyperChipmunk | i use my GM bow |
| 06:44.03 | Thelyna | holy crap, I knew there was a reason I kept my PCB around |
| 06:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | equip it in fight when oom, pop rapid fire, full mana. |
| 06:44.42 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 06:45.18 | hyperChipmunk | i keep low-cooldown one-handers around for the same reason |
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| 06:45.24 | hyperChipmunk | it's even better |
| 06:46.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Alcor's Sunrazor + Fang of Venoxis imho |
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| 06:46.36 | sag_ich_nicht | (both 1.3) |
| 06:49.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i wonder if you could get your ranged attack speed to 0.1 |
| 06:50.09 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 06:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | 1.0 the lowest? |
| 06:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:50.37 | hyperChipmunk | i've gotten it down to around .86 with quickshots, rapidfire, and GM bow |
| 06:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | but it gets harder and harder as you go; I doubt it'd be possible to get below .5 |
| 06:51.16 | hyperChipmunk | this was before haste pots |
| 06:52.42 | sag_ich_nicht | BM hunter, quick shots, rapid fire, PCB, haste pot, heroism, a few +haste items... no? :X |
| 06:53.41 | hyperChipmunk | maybe |
| 06:54.02 | hyperChipmunk | that's a long way to go , and I'm willing to bet there's a hard cap |
| 06:54.06 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 06:54.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i wanna know where it is |
| 06:54.12 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:54.12 | hyperChipmunk | 75% or so |
| 06:54.23 | hyperChipmunk | just my guess |
| 06:54.51 | hyperChipmunk | that would put you down to about .35-.4 |
| 06:55.17 | sag_ich_nicht | christ |
| 06:55.21 | sag_ich_nicht | that would be insane already |
| 06:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, but it'd be a parlor trick |
| 06:55.50 | hyperChipmunk | not much more |
| 06:55.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 06:56.12 | sag_ich_nicht | but it'd be awesome to watch |
| 06:56.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:56.41 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, .8 was something to behold |
| 06:57.05 | hyperChipmunk | it was like a machine gun |
| 06:57.30 | kenlyric | weave steady shot into that and be a <hero> |
| 06:58.08 | hyperChipmunk | this was way pre-TBC |
| 06:58.37 | hyperChipmunk | which is why i actually have a GM bow >8) |
| 06:58.50 | hyperChipmunk | heck, i have gm hammers and shield too |
| 06:59.57 | neenee | morning |
| 06:59.59 | xerawx_ | yeah .86 was insane.. chewed through ammo so damn fast tho |
| 07:00.00 | kebinusan | I hate arenas, Lost 100 points to druid/warrior teams today |
| 07:00.21 | neenee | You mean you dislike losing. |
| 07:00.43 | hyperChipmunk | bingo! |
| 07:00.46 | kebinusan | no I dislike the format |
| 07:00.56 | kebinusan | My partner gets feared through the world and its still a los |
| 07:00.59 | kebinusan | *loss |
| 07:01.02 | neenee | Because you are not compatible enough with it yet? |
| 07:01.16 | kebinusan | and because MS warriors are so Op'd |
| 07:01.20 | Orionshock | nymbia: how functional is the Ace3 branch of Quartz? |
| 07:01.34 | neenee | Would you be complaining about Arena if you were winning instead of losing in those cases? |
| 07:01.38 | nymbia | Orionshock: not at all |
| 07:01.45 | kebinusan | yeah I would |
| 07:01.48 | kebinusan | actually |
| 07:02.10 | xerawx_ | arena is the lamest excuse for pvp blizz has dreamed up yet |
| 07:02.23 | neenee | Oh well. |
| 07:02.29 | kebinusan | the fact that arena brackets are dominated by FOTM combos says that its pretty much a failure |
| 07:02.34 | neenee | There are people who will find fault with anything :) |
| 07:04.20 | Aeyan | I don't mind the arenas - I think they're pretty cool for people who like ladder style pvp play |
| 07:04.23 | neenee | There will always be combinations more suitable than others. It's up to the players to devise a tactic to make their combination work. Some combinations may be easier to work with, so they are more popular. |
| 07:04.34 | Aeyan | I am tired of seeing everyone and their brother cruising around in full gladiator gear though |
| 07:04.50 | neenee | I haven't done Arena yet |
| 07:05.02 | neenee | But I can't say I wouldn't like to have some of the items. |
| 07:05.42 | kebinusan | yeah its no longer a matter of being decent to get gear, now you just need to invest enough time |
| 07:05.52 | kebinusan | Its really pretty stupid |
| 07:06.11 | neenee | Well, it is good for casual players |
| 07:06.12 | NightHawkTheSane | thats always been the case, though |
| 07:06.38 | NightHawkTheSane | the real advantage now is that if you ARE good, you probably get gear faster |
| 07:06.48 | neenee | Since the change from having to play a certain amount of hours to keep or advance a rank to get items, it has become more casual-friendly. I like the change. |
| 07:06.57 | kebinusan | get it faster and wait around point capped for 4 months between patches |
| 07:07.04 | kebinusan | yeah such a wonderful change |
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| 07:07.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't say it was perfect |
| 07:07.30 | neenee | Nothing is :) |
| 07:07.30 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm just pointing out that you've never needed skill to get pvp gear |
| 07:07.41 | neenee | But you did need a lot of time |
| 07:07.51 | kebinusan | you're better off pvping for gear than doing PVE raids because at least you're guaranteed an upgrade if you pvp |
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| 07:07.54 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 07:07.54 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
| 07:08.02 | neenee | Indeed. Good point kebinusan :) |
| 07:08.07 | nymbia | and now you need a lot of coordination.. good tradeoff if you ask me |
| 07:08.10 | neenee | No worrying about losing rols. |
| 07:08.11 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: that, among a few other things, is what bothers me the most about pvp |
| 07:08.21 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: agreed |
| 07:08.35 | neenee | NightHawkTheSane: I gather you are a PvPer? |
| 07:08.40 | NightHawkTheSane | frankly, i'd like more of a distinction and difference between pve and pvp gear. |
| 07:08.46 | NightHawkTheSane | neenee: no, hate pvp actually :) |
| 07:08.49 | neenee | ok |
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| 07:09.27 | NightHawkTheSane | but that's a personal opinion of how i want to play the game, really |
| 07:09.34 | nymbia | no |
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| 07:09.40 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 07:09.40 | CIA-8 | - sorry typo fix |
| 07:09.41 | nymbia | you must play the game like everyone else |
| 07:09.54 | nymbia | Fisker- commands it. |
| 07:10.01 | kebinusan | I really dislike the buff/nerf cycles |
| 07:10.19 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: actually, i want everyone to play like me, or at least i want to stop the fucking wankers who think world pvp is even remotely useful or interesting |
| 07:10.31 | NightHawkTheSane | but that's a whole other ball of hornets. :D |
| 07:11.17 | nymbia | lol |
| 07:11.48 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- wacky hardcore carebear :D |
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| 07:12.33 | kebinusan | warlocks should get soul link trainable since its the only real defensive ability we have anymore |
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| 07:12.40 | Provus | Does anyone know how to make Quarts show divine shield on my target? |
| 07:12.53 | NightHawkTheSane | it wont |
| 07:12.59 | NightHawkTheSane | quartz only shows your own buffs/debuffs |
| 07:13.09 | NightHawkTheSane | since DS isn't castable on others.. |
| 07:13.10 | nymbia | lies! |
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| 07:13.11 | kebinusan | Provus: have to get necb or antagonist for that |
| 07:13.25 | nymbia | ...ok maybe not lies ;) |
| 07:13.33 | kenlyric | or EBB |
| 07:13.36 | Provus | What's EBB? |
| 07:13.37 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: pfft., who do you think you are to contradict me? the author or some crazy shit? :D |
| 07:13.45 | kebinusan | ebb does? |
| 07:13.52 | nymbia | hehe |
| 07:14.18 | Provus | I don't know what that acronym means. |
| 07:14.30 | nymbia | it would be on the easy side to make a module to show all that 'estimated buff timer' action |
| 07:14.41 | kenlyric | ElkBuffBars |
| 07:14.50 | kenlyric | by default, shows your buffs. |
| 07:14.58 | kenlyric | but you can add bars for focus/target/pet |
| 07:15.05 | Provus | Is there a filter? |
| 07:15.36 | kenlyric | yes |
| 07:16.13 | Provus | Would I be able to filter it down to only show divine shield on my target and focus? |
| 07:16.57 | kenlyric | i don't see why not, but I've never tested it. |
| 07:17.19 | kenlyric | I usually filter stuff out, like timed buffs. Because I don't care if they have fort. |
| 07:18.52 | Provus | Good idea. I'll download it |
| 07:18.53 | ramoz | man |
| 07:19.04 | ramoz | will the walrocks ever get some love again? =( |
| 07:19.15 | Provus | I can place them right above my quartz target and focus bars, that way I'll know if a paladin is divine shielded before CSing |
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| 07:20.48 | Orionshock | why is this not working? "for k,v in pairs(SOCD_LOCALE_TABLE) do if v == true then v = k end end " |
| 07:21.16 | Orionshock | when i add debug code in itt shows it being converted but ... in game it's still a k = true table |
| 07:23.35 | Wobin | you can't modify the keys that way? |
| 07:23.48 | Wobin | not within the loop |
| 07:23.58 | Wobin | hm, oh wait |
| 07:23.59 | Orionshock | work'ed before |
| 07:24.15 | Wobin | no, you need SOCD_LOCALE_TABLE[k] = v |
| 07:24.25 | Orionshock | oh |
| 07:24.27 | Orionshock | ... |
| 07:24.40 | Wobin | cause k and v are just references |
| 07:24.41 | Wobin | local ones |
| 07:24.49 | Wobin | (within the loop) |
| 07:24.51 | NightHawkTheSane | well, value not reference |
| 07:24.57 | Wobin | yeah, sorry |
| 07:25.57 | NightHawkTheSane | but, point is, v is a copy of what's in the table |
| 07:26.03 | Orionshock | any way to reference a file as an external? |
| 07:26.29 | Effah | sup guys. |
| 07:26.32 | Wobin | apart from putting it in a directory? |
| 07:26.43 | Orionshock | ... yes |
| 07:27.18 | Arrowmaster | and you cant do SOCD_LOCALE_TABLE[v] = k like that since if v == true then youll pobably end up overwriting a bunch of values by using true as a table key |
| 07:27.30 | Wobin | no |
| 07:27.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: what? i think you missed something there |
| 07:27.57 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: no, v is the value |
| 07:28.06 | Wobin | he's trying to assign the key name to the key value |
| 07:28.09 | Wobin | not the other way around |
| 07:28.15 | Wobin | I thought that too at the beginning =) |
| 07:28.25 | Arrowmaster | 02:20:54a (Orionshock) why is this not working? "for k,v in pairs(SOCD_LOCALE_TABLE) do if v == true then v = k end end " |
| 07:28.31 | Arrowmaster | so he ment k = k? |
| 07:28.46 | Orionshock | .... |
| 07:28.49 | Wobin | no, for key, value in ... value = key |
| 07:28.59 | NightHawkTheSane | what he wants to do is iterate through a table, and if the value for a given key is "true", set the value equal to the key |
| 07:29.15 | Orionshock | at about 30 seconds looking at it i decided to say Fk it , and just acelocale3.. |
| 07:29.18 | NightHawkTheSane | except, true without the quotes, i'm not sure why i put that in |
| 07:29.35 | Wobin | philisophical reasons perhaps =) |
| 07:29.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: what you want is what wob said for k,v in pairs (t) do if v == true then t[k] = k end end |
| 07:30.07 | Orionshock | *right |
| 07:30.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah t[k] = k not t[v] = k which would just be weird |
| 07:30.32 | NightHawkTheSane | no one said t[v] = k ;) |
| 07:30.38 | Arrowmaster | he did! |
| 07:30.42 | NightHawkTheSane | no, he said v = k |
| 07:30.47 | NightHawkTheSane | which is significantly different |
| 07:30.47 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 07:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | t[v] != v :P |
| 07:31.08 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 07:31.17 | Arrowmaster | but he was missing the t[] part |
| 07:31.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 07:31.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i'm just going to step slowly away from this conversation :) |
| 07:31.51 | Arrowmaster | yeah lol |
| 07:32.27 | Wobin | yes. yes he was. |
| 07:32.33 | Wobin | thus the question as to why it didn't work =) |
| 07:32.44 | Wobin | and the subsequent answer =) |
| 07:33.37 | Arrowmaster | and your answer wouldnt have made anything change since t[k] is already v when you do t[k] = v |
| 07:34.04 | Arrowmaster | but he said v = k which if you add the t[] to becomes t[v] = k |
| 07:34.10 | Arrowmaster | but its still wrong |
| 07:34.22 | Wobin | oh yes |
| 07:34.24 | Wobin | So I did |
| 07:34.24 | Arrowmaster | so you have to change the t[v] = k to t[k] = k |
| 07:34.33 | Wobin | Move along, nothing to see |
| 07:34.36 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 07:34.41 | Effah | Hmm. Hitting a bit of a wall here. I'm coding an addon that should only need to be installed on one user's machine. this addon should be able to send and recieve tells, however... |
| 07:35.15 | Effah | One thing I noticed. using SendAddonMessage (or SendCommMessage) will send a silent whisper, but will also be silent on the recipient's end. |
| 07:35.21 | NightHawkTheSane | if you're hitting a wall, try several feet to the left or right. those doors are often placed trickily |
| 07:35.26 | Effah | lol |
| 07:35.40 | Effah | yeah. When i start banging my head against it, that's when I'll have issues. |
| 07:35.50 | Arrowmaster | you want SendChatMessage to send whispers |
| 07:36.15 | Arrowmaster | but it wont be silent on the senders end |
| 07:36.18 | Effah | Is it possible to suppress the display of my addon sending out a whisper, while actually displaying it properly for the recipient? |
| 07:36.26 | Arrowmaster | yes but its a bitch |
| 07:36.31 | Effah | yeah. noticed that the hard way |
| 07:36.34 | Arrowmaster | which is why nobody messes with whispers |
| 07:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you can probably hook something to suppress it.. but yeah, bitch. |
| 07:36.46 | Effah | It involves a hook to the chat window doesn't it.. :) |
| 07:36.52 | Effah | boo. ok. |
| 07:37.21 | NightHawkTheSane | actually |
| 07:37.23 | NightHawkTheSane | look at craftlist2 |
| 07:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | that allows the user to send/recieve whispers without seeing them |
| 07:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | you can probably rip whatever code it uses to suppress the display of those |
| 07:37.57 | Effah | if I did manage to do that, would it still cause my reply hotkey to reply to the last person who sent me a suppressed message? |
| 07:38.06 | Effah | craftlist2. Good idea. |
| 07:38.14 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't know, to be honest |
| 07:38.18 | Arrowmaster | craftlist2's code is actually a little ugly |
| 07:38.26 | Wobin | Effah: probably |
| 07:38.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i havn't looked at it. i only know what it does. |
| 07:38.32 | CIA-8 | 03samuelcup * r55687 10BigBrother/localization_zhCN.lua: |
| 07:38.32 | CIA-8 | BigBrother: |
| 07:38.32 | CIA-8 | - zhCN updated |
| 07:38.41 | Effah | I think DBM has something akin to that too (when someone sends a /tell user status), but my head exploded looking through that |
| 07:39.30 | Arrowmaster | you can use :SetAttribute() on the editbox i think to change the name of the last whispered person |
| 07:39.50 | Wobin | It used to be so easy to modify that list |
| 07:40.01 | Arrowmaster | this really should be a library |
| 07:40.04 | Orionshock | it skiped my commit |
| 07:40.13 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: it did that to me twice the other day |
| 07:40.14 | Effah | thx, I'll look into that too. |
| 07:42.41 | Wobin | oh you can use SetLastTellTarget |
| 07:42.55 | Wobin | basically grab the last tell target before you send, then reinstate it after |
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| 07:44.34 | Effah | That would work the one way, but when recieving messages, I'll run into a problem. |
| 07:44.35 | |Stan| | Orionshock: core.lua "DailyFu installed it will quiry it for what" <- typo :P |
| 07:44.52 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:44.56 | Orionshock | nub it out |
| 07:44.58 | Effah | Since I intend my addon to recieve via /tell <player> command |
| 07:45.00 | Orionshock | :P |
| 07:45.22 | |Stan| | Orionshock: I was just checking the last commit and saw that, don't really care^^ |
| 07:46.36 | Orionshock | ah... |
| 07:46.38 | Orionshock | thx |
| 07:46.50 | |Stan| | np |
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| 07:48.09 | neenee | test |
| 07:48.10 | neenee | ok |
| 07:49.16 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55688 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (core.lua localization-enUS.lua): |
| 07:49.16 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 07:49.16 | CIA-8 | -Adjust description text, thx |Stan|. |
| 07:49.16 | CIA-8 | -Clean out locale table of unUsed items that are used in v5 |
| 07:49.25 | Orionshock | fuck you CIA-8 |
| 07:49.50 | Orionshock | ...sorry slightly bad mood... |
| 07:49.54 | |Stan| | <3 |
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| 07:52.00 | Orionshock | but on the good side - it's finally done for the most part, least that version. has everything in it... and it's everything i wanted it to do. |
| 07:52.01 | |Stan| | Orionshock: "blolow Titltled" < was that "below Titled" ? :P |
| 07:52.08 | Orionshock | :P |
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| 07:52.27 | |Stan| | that looks like "IM ANGRY! LETS SMASH MY KEYBOARD" |
| 07:52.27 | |Stan| | :p |
| 07:53.09 | neenee | test |
| 07:53.12 | neenee | hm |
| 07:54.10 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r55689 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_frFR.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate |
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| 08:03.14 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55690 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (core.lua localization-enUS.lua): |
| 08:03.14 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 08:03.14 | CIA-8 | -One Last touch up of the night hopefully, then off to use this mod :P |
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| 08:06.31 | Fisker- | wuts dis Orionshock |
| 08:06.43 | Orionshock | ? |
| 08:06.48 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r55691 10Talented/Locales/zhCN.lua: Talented: update zhCN locale |
| 08:07.04 | Orionshock | that? oh... |
| 08:07.22 | Orionshock | i got sick of clicking though the gossip text on my daily quests... so i made a mod to do it for me |
| 08:08.20 | Fisker- | i like your style |
| 08:09.45 | Orionshock | well the on here has no gui, so changing options are all in the lua, the one on my svn has an Ace3GUI that i threw together... |
| 08:09.58 | Fisker- | FACEKICK |
| 08:13.03 | kaiden | ow, my face |
| 08:13.04 | kaiden | ;( |
| 08:13.08 | kaiden | *glares at fisker* |
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| 08:21.21 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 08:21.33 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 08:21.35 | Fisker- | i missed hellfire |
| 08:21.38 | Fisker- | by a million miles |
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| 08:37.15 | neenee | test |
| 08:37.47 | neenee | test |
| 08:38.02 | Adirelle | neenee, ? |
| 08:38.04 | neenee | :) |
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| 08:38.12 | neenee | Just trying out some irssi themes and spamming because of it. |
| 08:38.17 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 08:40.59 | evl | Uuhe |
| 08:41.02 | evl | Love is in the air! Ambush (All Ranks) - Damage changed from 250% to 275% |
| 08:41.28 | neenee | nice |
| 08:41.41 | Diao | .. |
| 08:41.42 | Diao | o_O |
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| 08:47.29 | neenee | I hope the BG Daily bug is going to be fixed too. |
| 08:47.59 | Fisker- | what bug_ |
| 08:48.01 | Fisker- | ? |
| 08:48.12 | neenee | The bug where random characters can not get a daily BG quest. |
| 08:48.21 | neenee | It's a bug which exists for the cooking quests too |
| 08:49.02 | Fisker- | sure it's random? |
| 08:49.42 | neenee | Well, it's not static, when the Daily changes, a character which couldn't get a quest, may be able to get it as normal |
| 08:50.20 | neenee | But it's a known bug, Blizzard confirmed it on the forums and they say it'll be fixed soon |
| 08:50.30 | neenee | I just hope soon means with the next patc and not the one after that. |
| 08:51.03 | neenee | ah well, bbs. Market. |
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| 08:57.43 | Nella | I'm searching for an Addon where i can parse the chat log for boss emotes...(custom)..or...is tehre already a addon for the shartuul event ? |
| 08:57.53 | Nella | (Blade Edge Mountain) |
| 09:00.45 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r55692 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 09:00.45 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 09:00.45 | CIA-8 | - New TCG (March of the Legion) loot added |
| 09:01.37 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r55693 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/TextParsing.lua): |
| 09:01.37 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:01.37 | CIA-8 | - New TCG (March of the Legion) loot added |
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| 09:05.59 | hypetech | anybody know of a lightweight addon that will equip/unequip my riding crop when I mount/dismount without me having to use itemrack, outfitter, etc.? |
| 09:06.00 | CIA-8 | 03paene * r55694 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 09:06.00 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 09:06.00 | CIA-8 | -Made it so reagent restocking amounts can be 0, instead of a minimum of 1 |
| 09:09.52 | Orionshock | how the hell do you make profile options with ace3's gui and ace3 db?? |
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| 09:12.19 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: ping |
| 09:17.28 | CIA-8 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Beta * r55695 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceConfigTab-3.0.lua: |
| 09:17.28 | CIA-8 | AceTab-3.0: AceConfigTab-3.0.lua |
| 09:17.28 | CIA-8 | - Still ugly. |
| 09:17.28 | CIA-8 | - More inefficient. |
| 09:17.28 | CIA-8 | - Actually working! |
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| 09:17.52 | Cyerie | =D |
| 09:19.31 | Antiar1 | http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/11/21/hairball.case/index.html |
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| 09:25.19 | neenee | Interesting, but indeed not the most pleasant sight. |
| 09:26.59 | Antiar1 | I think the next priest I roll will be named Ompompompom |
| 09:27.18 | Orionshock | .... gona shoot someone on the ace3 team... |
| 09:27.29 | Orionshock | but only in the foot |
| 09:27.58 | Fisker- | NOMNOMNOM |
| 09:27.59 | neenee | Usually people shoot themselves in the foot, not others. |
| 09:28.17 | Nargiddley | Orionshock, pong |
| 09:28.24 | Orionshock | all i fking want is a self.db:GetStandardProfileOptions("inline") |
| 09:28.30 | Orionshock | is that Too much to ask for?? |
| 09:28.32 | Orionshock | is it? |
| 09:28.34 | Fisker- | isn't threatmeter supposed to be implemented in 2.4? |
| 09:28.45 | Nargiddley | I got nothing to do with AceDB :P |
| 09:29.23 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: i'm trying to wrap my small unEducated brain arround how to do profile options w/in the gui lib... |
| 09:29.30 | Orionshock | not working too well .... |
| 09:29.54 | neenee | ..... |
| 09:29.56 | Nargiddley | I havent thought about that one myself yet |
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| 09:32.11 | CIA-8 | 03roartindon * r55696 10Aloft/Aloft.toc: Aloft: Fixed Speedymon's insertion of garbage characters on the CastBarOverlay.lua line, causing related problems |
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| 09:35.46 | Nargiddley | Orionshock, I basicly just did AceConfigDialog. So not much I can help with there |
| 09:41.01 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Control Freak seems really nice. Any plans to include some way to monitor several targets, eg. one seduce and one fear? |
| 09:43.38 | Orionshock | i know i know... |
| 09:45.17 | neenee | Seduce, fear, enslave, and with fear, all the targets affected by howl |
| 09:45.24 | neenee | That's a lot of timers though |
| 09:46.42 | Hjalte | I'm not saying i want ControlFreak to show them all, but sometimes you are assigned 1 seduce and 1 fear and would like to know about both :) |
| 09:49.12 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r55697 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Don't set global 'leaderboard' or '_'. |
| 09:51.10 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r55698 10SimpleChatMods/ (5 files): SimpleChatMods: Small look and feel changes and tweaks. |
| 09:51.35 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r55699 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: No need to unregister the parser events manually. |
| 09:51.58 | neenee | Yes, but who is to say what the user wants to display? |
| 09:52.05 | neenee | Perhaps they want to see everything |
| 09:52.11 | neenee | Or fears of other people :P |
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| 09:52.37 | Hjalte | I highly doubt that is the goal of ControlFreak :) |
| 09:52.50 | neenee | :) |
| 09:52.54 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r55700 10BanzaiLib/Banzai-1.1/Banzai-1.1.lua: .Banzai-1.1: Get rid of the realLib variable. |
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| 10:54.07 | Morpheus|Dead | ~seen Kemayo |
| 10:54.14 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 22h 15m 34s) #wowace (2d 22h 15m 34s). Has said a total of 155 messages. Is idling for 5h 52m 39s, last said: 'durcyn: Thanks for letting me know.'. |
| 10:54.49 | Morpheus|Dead | Kemayo you around? |
| 10:56.24 | Orionshock | god i love Excel |
| 10:56.33 | Fisker- | god i love you |
| 10:56.45 | Orionshock | export the guild bank log off the armory |
| 10:56.51 | Morpheus|Dead | well I guess it sok to love it just don't LOOOVE it :P |
| 10:56.56 | Orionshock | chop some of the xml off, and import into excel |
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| 11:03.34 | Orionshock | ok now to figure out how 1195046539000 => Wed 11/14/2007 6:22:19 AM MST |
| 11:04.35 | Fisker- | probably seconds elapsed |
| 11:05.19 | nevcairiel | 11950465390 would be right |
| 11:05.26 | nevcairiel | the two extra zeros are weird |
| 11:06.04 | nevcairiel | or three zeros even |
| 11:06.13 | Orionshock | seconds elapsed sence when? |
| 11:06.17 | [Ammo] | microtime? |
| 11:06.27 | [Ammo] | javascript has the same silly timestamps you have to / 1000 |
| 11:06.31 | nevcairiel | yeah might be microtime |
| 11:06.56 | nevcairiel | its a unix timestamp Orionshock, seconds elapsed sicne 1.1.1970 0:00 |
| 11:07.11 | Orionshock | .. why 1970? |
| 11:07.30 | nevcairiel | definition |
| 11:07.35 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time |
| 11:07.45 | SunTsu | Orionshock: It's just a definition. That's the date the unix epoche began |
| 11:07.50 | [Ammo] | yarr |
| 11:07.55 | Fisker- | it starts in 1.1.1970 |
| 11:08.00 | Fisker- | ends sometime in 2037 or so |
| 11:08.03 | Fisker- | or 2036/2038 |
| 11:08.05 | Fisker- | can't remember |
| 11:08.19 | nevcairiel | 2038 the 32bit integer is full |
| 11:08.21 | nevcairiel | doesnt mean it ends |
| 11:08.33 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:08.54 | kaiden | oh noes Y2k V2.0 |
| 11:09.10 | Fisker- | yup |
| 11:09.10 | kaiden | *runs out to stock up on waters and twinkies* |
| 11:09.27 | kaiden | thank god that happens 1-3 years after i die! |
| 11:09.53 | nevcairiel | you plan to die before 2038? |
| 11:10.00 | kaiden | yes.. |
| 11:10.06 | kaiden | a fortune teller told me i would die in 2035 |
| 11:10.09 | Fisker- | i hope you survive then |
| 11:10.18 | Orionshock | yep |
| 11:10.20 | kaiden | i fear her fortune telling powers |
| 11:10.21 | Fisker- | but anyways stuff will be migrated before 2038 anyways |
| 11:10.24 | kaiden | lol ;) |
| 11:10.25 | Orionshock | http://www.esqsoft.com/javascript_examples/date-to-epoch.htm |
| 11:10.35 | SunTsu | I am old enough at that time to no longer actively care about unix time ;) |
| 11:11.12 | SunTsu | Fisker-: Well, should not be too hard to have the counter be 64 bit by that time |
| 11:11.12 | kaiden | SunTsu, but will you still care about war? |
| 11:11.15 | kaiden | and how perfect it is? |
| 11:11.16 | kaiden | :P |
| 11:11.17 | Morpheus|Dead | I was 6mo6days old when it started oh thats freaky /shiver |
| 11:11.36 | SunTsu | kaiden: ^Never cared about war, never will ;) Didn't read my book, eh? |
| 11:11.44 | kaiden | lol |
| 11:11.59 | kaiden | you must care... |
| 11:12.13 | Orionshock | there any friendly way in wow to convert that number into something sane? |
| 11:12.19 | Fisker- | probably gonna be more as well SunTsu :P |
| 11:12.56 | kaiden | Orionshock, sadly most of the world revolves around utime |
| 11:13.00 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: wow has the strftime api, os.date(format, timestamp) |
| 11:13.00 | Fisker- | by the time we reach 2038 it'll probably be able to easily count from the universe beginning to the universe ending :P |
| 11:13.01 | kaiden | just ask php |
| 11:13.02 | SunTsu | kaiden: Nope |
| 11:13.30 | kaiden | SunTsu, well poop... i care because war begets cookies.. and bitches |
| 11:13.35 | Orionshock | .... |
| 11:13.40 | kaiden | and i'm going to go take more vicodin and cry about my wrist hurting |
| 11:13.56 | SunTsu | Fisker-: Theretically maybe, but I don't think the discussion might be over then when exactly the universe began or if at all ;) |
| 11:14.20 | kaiden | Fisker-, pfft.. dont you know you can't rape the willing |
| 11:14.29 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:15.12 | Morpheus|Dead | no we have to build a supercomputer and ask it "What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything" |
| 11:15.20 | kaiden | 42 |
| 11:15.23 | nevcairiel | i can build you that already |
| 11:15.29 | Morpheus|Dead | Of course I allready know so... |
| 11:15.30 | SunTsu | Morpheus|Dead: 42 can be handled by now quite well ;) |
| 11:15.35 | Morpheus|Dead | its 42 |
| 11:16.56 | kaiden | The question is... why is the answer 42 |
| 11:17.26 | nevcairiel | Since 42 is the answer to everything, thats kinda a loop now |
| 11:17.39 | Morpheus|Dead | no the question is "What is the Question" LOL |
| 11:18.01 | Morpheus|Dead | or what is 42 the answer of rather |
| 11:18.06 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: os. not there :( |
| 11:18.15 | Orionshock | and date() dosn't seem to like the 2nd arg idea |
| 11:18.21 | Lemming2K | is there a way to identify unused librarys with wau? |
| 11:18.43 | Morpheus|Dead | yep Delete everything and repick your mods with auto dep download |
| 11:19.07 | Morpheus|Dead | dont pick any libs let them get downloaded as dependencies without externals on |
| 11:19.08 | kaiden | there are so many people that whine about memory usage here... |
| 11:19.16 | kaiden | you would think the community was built around efficient addons |
| 11:19.18 | kaiden | sheesh |
| 11:19.19 | kaiden | :P |
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| 11:19.52 | Morpheus|Dead | heh not me LOL I am a auctioneer staff member I just like to listen to you guys :P |
| 11:20.40 | [Ammo] | oh noes teh evil auctioneer |
| 11:20.43 | Morpheus|Dead | ~jump Morpheus|Dead |
| 11:20.44 | purl | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of Morpheus|Dead |
| 11:20.44 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: /dump date(nil, 0) dumps a date for me |
| 11:20.49 | Morpheus|Dead | hey what the... |
| 11:21.01 | Orionshock | ... why nil,0? |
| 11:21.12 | nevcairiel | i was too lazy to think of a format |
| 11:21.15 | nevcairiel | and 0 is my timestamp |
| 11:22.05 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.28 | nevcairiel | it probably wont like your microseconds there |
| 11:22.38 | nevcairiel | div it by 1000 before |
| 11:22.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Morpheus|Dead] by [Ammo] |
| 11:23.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+v nevcairiel] by [Ammo] |
| 11:24.03 | Orionshock | lua> 1195046539000/1000 |
| 11:24.03 | lua_bot | Orionshock: 1195046539 |
| 11:24.30 | nevcairiel | you needed a bot for that ? :P |
| 11:24.38 | Orionshock | im trying not to think |
| 11:24.38 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 11:26.16 | kaiden | lua> 1195046539000*0.001 |
| 11:26.16 | lua_bot | kaiden: 1195046539 |
| 11:26.19 | kaiden | ZOMG! |
| 11:26.20 | kaiden | mafs |
| 11:27.09 | Orionshock | i pulled the gbank xml into excel and am trying to make sense of things.... |
| 11:27.13 | Orionshock | sorta worked .. |
| 11:27.22 | Lemming2K | pitbull is listed as an opt dep in quartz. how do they interact? |
| 11:27.40 | Morpheus|Dead | casting bars |
| 11:27.51 | Orionshock | Lemming2K: just means that Quartz want's pitbull to load first that's all |
| 11:28.31 | Lemming2K | ok, thought you could place quartz inside pitbull or so |
| 11:29.10 | kaiden | you can place a monkey in a hat, but can you place a hat in a monkey? |
| 11:29.19 | |Stan| | yes you can |
| 11:29.30 | Lemming2K | the monkey wouldn't like it |
| 11:29.32 | kaiden | 2 monkeys 1 hat? |
| 11:30.18 | |Stan| | lol |
| 11:32.06 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r55701 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 11:32.06 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 11:32.06 | CIA-8 | - Added the card names |
| 11:32.06 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r55702 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/TextParsing.lua): |
| 11:32.06 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:32.06 | kaiden | wonder how few people got that |
| 11:32.06 | CIA-8 | - Added the card names |
| 11:32.07 | kaiden | :P |
| 11:34.24 | |Stan| | well we talked about that yesterday and my brain is not that bad :P |
| 11:34.30 | kaiden | lol |
| 11:34.56 | kaiden | well happy thanksgiving all, have to clean my living room and get some sleep gonna get like 3 hours of sleep before we have to start cooking |
| 11:34.59 | kaiden | :) |
| 11:36.11 | |Stan| | happy thanksgiving :) |
| 11:36.46 | SunTsu | .o0( kaiden is going on a rl cooking quest? ) |
| 11:38.36 | kaiden | more of a quest in the barrens to pick up newspapers and the nights dinner boxes, and coke cans from desks adventure |
| 11:38.40 | kaiden | then on a real life cooking quest |
| 11:38.50 | kaiden | if i can get my stupid roommate to stop doing arenas for long enough to help |
| 11:51.27 | neenee | ;) |
| 11:53.17 | Fisker- | anyone here have the iphone? |
| 11:53.26 | Fisker- | I believe i remember some poor guy telling about having one |
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| 11:53.48 | neenee | Not me, I use a Motofone F3 |
| 11:54.49 | neenee | Why do you ask? |
| 11:55.15 | Fisker- | some guy is claiming that the iphone is sold without contract, but "locked" to the AT&T network |
| 11:55.36 | neenee | Telfort or T-mobile will soon be selling unlocked versions |
| 11:55.52 | Fisker- | yeah i know |
| 11:56.02 | neenee | T-mobile. |
| 11:56.23 | neenee | oki |
| 11:56.23 | |Stan| | T-mobile is selling unlocked ones for 999¤ |
| 11:57.19 | many | in germany only, though. |
| 11:58.00 | Kerafyrm | yup |
| 11:58.23 | SunTsu | many: Well, you could use 20 Euros ordering fee ;) |
| 11:58.30 | many | heh |
| 11:58.37 | many | theyre also unlocking already sold ones |
| 11:59.06 | many | and someday.... maybe someday i find out what people find on devices which are proprietary like this |
| 12:00.24 | SunTsu | many: Well, if somebody would like to give me one for free, I wouldn't refuse it |
| 12:00.36 | SunTsu | You can use it as a phone, after all ;) |
| 12:00.46 | many | yeah |
| 12:01.35 | many | but i certainly wouldnt by one with the selling behaviour of apple |
| 12:02.06 | Fisker- | it's odd that people are just now beginning to wake up and see the shit apple is offering :P |
| 12:02.53 | SunTsu | Fisker-: I didn't notice anybody to wake up |
| 12:03.05 | Fisker- | :O |
| 12:03.17 | SunTsu | Th iPhone still is sexy as hell, though I never would buy one |
| 12:03.45 | Fisker- | I don't really like the big flat touchscreen |
| 12:03.59 | Fisker- | but i like the way they handled SMS actually |
| 12:04.02 | Corgan | oh u fisker |
| 12:04.06 | Fisker- | that was a cool way to do it |
| 12:04.20 | Fisker- | instead of some usual "browse inbox, read it" you had a conversation going instead |
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| 12:07.12 | neenee | Just talking might be cheaper and more efficent though |
| 12:07.20 | neenee | Unless you use e-mails |
| 12:07.37 | SunTsu | neenee: That's not that stylish ;) |
| 12:07.43 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 12:08.05 | neenee | Ah well, I'll stick with my Motofone |
| 12:08.24 | neenee | I can call, be called and do some basic text-messaging. |
| 12:08.28 | Fisker- | but here you can get sms' as part of the contract |
| 12:08.33 | Fisker- | and they're pretty cheap otherwise as well |
| 12:08.41 | Fisker- | i still just talk though |
| 12:08.55 | Fisker- | but 50 sms = 1$ here |
| 12:09.04 | neenee | That's cheap |
| 12:09.12 | neenee | I think. |
| 12:09.52 | neenee | But then, there are special deals here for people who text a lot |
| 12:09.58 | neenee | So the price might be comparable then |
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| 12:27.00 | restored | just updated to latest eepanels and get an error now when entering and leaving combat. |
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| 12:27.43 | Funkeh` | eepanels or eepanels 2 |
| 12:27.48 | restored | 2 |
| 12:27.51 | restored | sorry |
| 12:28.00 | Funkeh` | odd |
| 12:28.05 | Funkeh` | pastey the error |
| 12:28.55 | Fisker- | who maintains pallypower? |
| 12:29.06 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, YOU! |
| 12:29.11 | Orionshock | aight... i did it... |
| 12:29.21 | Fisker- | NO U Funkeh` |
| 12:29.26 | Orionshock | the hack way tho... i got the bank log from the armory to the game..... |
| 12:29.41 | restored | core.lua:1684:dewdrop-2.0: Bad Argument #2 to `FeedAceOptionsTable' (table expected got nil) |
| 12:29.58 | restored | Funkeh`: that's the error I get. |
| 12:30.08 | Fisker- | show me Orionshock |
| 12:30.18 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:30.38 | Fisker- | also |
| 12:30.44 | Orionshock | Fisker-: login to the bank log - save the page source |
| 12:30.57 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.59 | Fisker- | make a hack so i can see changes done within a tab |
| 12:31.02 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.17 | Orionshock | hack out parts that don't mean anything |
| 12:31.44 | Orionshock | add in columns so that when you save to CSV you can use a text editor find/replace to put in lua table formats |
| 12:31.55 | Orionshock | .... |
| 12:32.03 | Orionshock | -> import to game |
| 12:32.04 | Fisker- | thought it was a 1337 hax addon |
| 12:32.14 | Orionshock | fuck that! |
| 12:32.22 | Fisker- | no |
| 12:32.23 | Fisker- | fuck you! |
| 12:32.23 | Funkeh` | restored, odd, I think you misconfigured one of your panels |
| 12:32.34 | Orionshock | give me regex for xml junk |
| 12:32.39 | Orionshock | an answer me this |
| 12:32.48 | Orionshock | does loadfile() obey sope? |
| 12:33.25 | Orionshock | so that if i do local gBankLog = (loadfile("some_file_that's_not_Lua.xml")) it works |
| 12:34.14 | restored | Funkeh`: are the ` ' be different ? I have no clue (0 programming skills ) |
| 12:34.26 | restored | supposed to be even. |
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| 12:39.22 | restored | nevermind :) Error went away after a relog. |
| 12:39.55 | Lukian | should mind, because the error exists in the first place:P |
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| 12:54.26 | Orionshock | Fisker-: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10034.msg160329#msg160329 |
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| 13:13.15 | Fisker- | so |
| 13:13.18 | Fisker- | anyone in here with an iphone? |
| 13:13.42 | Lukian | <- AU |
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| 13:14.07 | Lukian | Which means we won't see them for about a year :p |
| 13:14.31 | vhaarr | Lukian: why did you tickle us? I assume you want to tell us something |
| 13:14.35 | vhaarr | Lukian: so what's up? |
| 13:14.47 | Lukian | vhaarr, can you grant svn access? |
| 13:14.56 | vhaarr | Lukian: kaelten can |
| 13:15.10 | Lukian | oh, he hasn't responded to my svn mailing about ~24hrs ago |
| 13:15.18 | vhaarr | wait 2 weeks |
| 13:15.20 | vhaarr | then ask |
| 13:15.26 | Lukian | haha will do |
| 13:15.35 | Fisker- | vhaarr i want svn access |
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| 13:15.40 | Fisker- | i won't do anything naughty |
| 13:15.42 | Fisker- | honest |
| 13:15.45 | vhaarr | I want Fisker- access |
| 13:15.53 | Fisker- | you got it baby |
| 13:16.23 | vhaarr | no "3rd date plz"? |
| 13:16.42 | Fisker- | nope |
| 13:16.51 | vhaarr | well we are both men, we know what we want, so I guess it's not necessary |
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| 13:17.42 | Kalroth | hot |
| 13:17.55 | Kivin | nevcairiel? |
| 13:19.26 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr |
| 13:19.28 | sag_ich_nicht | your stubby hook |
| 13:19.30 | Health | shut it Kalroth |
| 13:19.30 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't work |
| 13:19.32 | Health | nub |
| 13:19.42 | Kalroth | :( |
| 13:19.51 | Kalroth | You're always so mean to me, baby |
| 13:21.41 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: getting dinner now let's work it out after |
| 13:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr: going to sleep now, just wanted to tell you about it because i saw you online |
| 13:22.36 | sag_ich_nicht | (or talking, for that matter) |
| 13:34.31 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r55703 10BigWigs/ (17 files in 6 dirs): |
| 13:34.31 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: |
| 13:34.31 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update |
| 13:34.52 | [Ammo] | sometimes I really wonder if these chinese and taiwanese etc fight over translations |
| 13:34.58 | [Ammo] | and keep correcting eachother back and forth |
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| 13:36.26 | Fisker- | heh |
| 13:36.36 | |Stan| | [Ammo]: you mean the battle for those nifty little signatures they add into the code? with their email adress and so on^^ |
| 13:36.54 | Fisker- | seems a bit fun |
| 13:37.16 | Fisker- | the european locales usually get updated once after a new addon version |
| 13:37.18 | Fisker- | and that's it |
| 13:37.24 | Fisker- | but several times for the asian ones |
| 13:37.44 | |Stan| | ever evolving language^^ |
| 13:38.04 | SunTsu | Fisker-: Ever tried getting those symbold right? ;) |
| 13:38.11 | SunTsu | symbols even |
| 13:38.33 | Fisker- | no, but i'm not taiwanese |
| 13:39.09 | Funkeh` | |Stan|, no, they change translations back and forth |
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| 13:47.15 | _rane | what's the addon that shows friendly buff gains SCT like? |
| 13:47.25 | neenee | parrot? |
| 13:47.29 | _rane | i.e. friendly druid gains nature's swiftness |
| 13:47.51 | _rane | it parrot what i'm looking for? |
| 13:48.05 | neenee | I am not completely sure, do you mean the buff gains of others? |
| 13:48.08 | neenee | Of of yourself? |
| 13:48.13 | _rane | others.... |
| 13:48.22 | neenee | Ah. Not parrot then I think |
| 13:48.41 | many | doesnt sct do that? |
| 13:48.57 | Drool | spellalert sct? (not sure if that still works tho) |
| 13:50.15 | neenee | Hm |
| 13:50.19 | neenee | Witchhunter perhaps |
| 13:50.43 | Chompers | why not setup some raid frames to show that? |
| 13:51.43 | Hjalte | _rane: Might be witchhunt as someone says, but that would spam you a lot |
| 13:51.55 | _rane | okay |
| 13:52.52 | neenee | That someone has a name - neenee. |
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| 13:56.44 | _rane | how about enemy buff gains? |
| 13:57.02 | _rane | witchhunt as well? |
| 13:57.51 | Iceroth | msbt at least shows enemy buff gains by default |
| 13:57.53 | neenee | I am not sure |
| 13:57.54 | neenee | Try it out |
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| 14:00.32 | SunTsu | _rane: You could try out antagonist for that |
| 14:01.47 | _rane | alright, thanks |
| 14:10.04 | _rane | one more question, is it possible to make pitbull player frame clickthroughable? |
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| 14:37.23 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r55705 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Don't set global profileDefaults. |
| 14:38.35 | Gngsk | ugh, wow did a commercial with Mr. T |
| 14:38.40 | Gngsk | I might have to quit the game now :\ |
| 14:38.51 | Fisker- | it was fun because he has a mohawk lol |
| 14:39.46 | |Stan| | I'm a nightelf mohawk! |
| 14:40.17 | Gngsk | just aired on espn2 |
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| 14:50.37 | Wobin | Seen the Shatner one? |
| 14:51.56 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:52.12 | Fisker- | it's annoying how they make custom scenes that don't happen anywhere in the game |
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| 14:57.33 | Ozguli- | did I already link the image where a GM replies to me about murlocks? |
| 14:58.07 | Ozguli- | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/GM.PNG |
| 14:58.09 | Ozguli- | compare to http://www.wowbash.com/images/1195593750.jpg |
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| 15:07.34 | Azurewrath | Anyone around who has "World in Conflict" installed? My Installation was made with a previous Windows-Installation and now the newest Patch-Installer bitches about not finding the path.. guess i need the registry entries |
| 15:14.02 | neenee | Try reinstalling. |
| 15:14.28 | neenee | And if you downloaded it, there's your problem. |
| 15:15.21 | Azurewrath | thats why i need the registry entrys, i don't want to reinstall it. And it's a legit copy btw. :) |
| 15:15.41 | neenee | How long does it take to reinstall? |
| 15:16.11 | neenee | If it's less than ten minutes, you've already been waiting here for a solution for more than that :) |
| 15:16.46 | neenee | If the game doesn't restore the entries itself when starting, I doubt you can restore them. |
| 15:17.07 | Azurewrath | don't know.. but why should i reinstall the whole game if some 50 bytes registry entry can do the same.. it's a question of principles. :p |
| 15:17.22 | Polarina | Azurewrath: Bruteforce them. |
| 15:17.27 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55706 10XPBarNone/XPBarNone.toc: |
| 15:17.27 | CIA-8 | XPBarNone: |
| 15:17.27 | CIA-8 | - TOC update. |
| 15:17.31 | Azurewrath | i don't want to "restore" them, i just want to add the installation path entry manually :) |
| 15:17.37 | neenee | I prefer spending less time on a problem over doing it the hard way. |
| 15:17.52 | neenee | Good luck though :) |
| 15:18.18 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55707 10BagSlots/BagSlots.toc: |
| 15:18.18 | CIA-8 | BagSlots: |
| 15:18.19 | CIA-8 | - TOC update. |
| 15:22.22 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r55708 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 15:22.22 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: |
| 15:22.22 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update |
| 15:22.27 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55709 10Cosplay/Cosplay.toc: Cosplay: TOC -> 20300 |
| 15:22.54 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55710 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc: FuBar_NameToggleFu: TOC -> 20300 |
| 15:23.06 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55711 10FuBar_NetStatsFu/FuBar_NetStatsFu.toc: FuBar_NetStatsFu: TOC -> 20300 |
| 15:23.23 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55712 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc: FuBar_TopScoreFu: TOC -> 20300 |
| 15:23.46 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55713 10IRQ/IRQ.toc: IRQ: TOC -> 20300 |
| 15:24.05 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r55714 10SeriousBuffTimers/SeriousBuffTimers.toc: SeriousBuffTimers: TOC -> 20300 |
| 15:25.38 | Drool | if i've got a bit of inline code that's outside any function declaration (because i want to run it once, to build a cache table), is it a good idea to wrap it in a 'do' block? |
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| 15:35.22 | JoshBorke | Drool: doesn't really matter |
| 15:37.31 | Drool | JoshBorke: is there a reason why some addons do it? i know it's to do with global and local var scope |
| 15:37.58 | Drool | was wondering if it's better to wrap up my local var declarations so they're properly destroyed once the lua file has been run |
| 15:38.30 | Wobin | locals within a file are only within the file scope |
| 15:38.46 | Wobin | use do blocks if you want to keep the scope within that block only |
| 15:39.03 | Drool | aye but if i declare it loose in the file, lua makes those locals available to subsequent code below |
| 15:39.11 | Wobin | true |
| 15:39.32 | Drool | even tho my bit of code is at the bottom, was just thinking about memory allocation impact |
| 15:39.48 | Wobin | Generally speaking, it's minimal |
| 15:39.53 | Wobin | but by all means =) |
| 15:40.05 | Drool | ok. i'll wrap it in a do block anyway. looks tidier :) |
| 15:40.11 | Wobin | night all |
| 15:40.15 | Drool | nn |
| 15:45.54 | cchome | does rogue poisons proc on specials only? |
| 15:46.04 | SunTsu | cchome: No |
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| 15:53.28 | Funkeh` | ~framexml |
| 15:53.28 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 16:00.34 | Speeddymon | ~rtfm |
| 16:00.34 | purl | it has been said that rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
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| 16:09.52 | Elgrim | Anyone know of a unitframe mod that keeps the standard look of the unitframes, but lets me configure target buffs/auras. And move the unitframes |
| 16:09.55 | Elgrim | ? |
| 16:11.15 | Ozguli- | what's good about the standard look? |
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| 16:11.24 | Industrial | what standard look |
| 16:11.32 | Ozguli- | of unit frames |
| 16:11.41 | Industrial | the blizzard unitframes you mean/ |
| 16:11.47 | Ozguli- | probably |
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| 16:17.47 | Elgrim | yes |
| 16:17.55 | Elgrim | blizzard unitframe |
| 16:18.24 | Elgrim | I dont think they are any good at all. specially for a warlock who need alot of space for buffs/debuffs |
| 16:18.40 | Elgrim | But I want to make a "blizzard looking" ui. I already got another one :D |
| 16:20.11 | neenee | I have a blizzard-looking UI |
| 16:20.31 | Elgrim | :D |
| 16:21.01 | Elgrim | Also im wondering if there is some good barmod that doesnt remove the blizzard bottom menu? |
| 16:21.23 | Elgrim | im all used to Bartender3. But I cant use it for the blizzard looking ui. since it removes all blizzard bottom graphics |
| 16:21.30 | neenee | yup |
| 16:22.00 | Ellipsis | you can do it with flexbar or something since that has an option to disable hiding the Blizz stuff |
| 16:22.12 | Elgrim | ty Ellipsis |
| 16:22.33 | Ellipsis | be aware though, the config is a bit time consuming - it's all /commands :) |
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| 16:22.59 | neenee | But there's plenty of help and examples on the forums, if they still exist, it's been a while for me :) |
| 16:23.07 | neenee | But there used to be threads with examples for entire setups |
| 16:23.11 | neenee | With stance-switching and such |
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| 16:23.22 | neenee | I just use the default Blizzard bars :) |
| 16:23.24 | Elgrim | I can never use premade stuff :D |
| 16:23.29 | Elgrim | I need to setup stuff myself |
| 16:23.30 | Ellipsis | yeah, there's some help in the thread and the wiki page has full documentation of all the commands |
| 16:23.34 | neenee | I use premade when it is what I want. |
| 16:23.40 | neenee | No need to re-invent the wheel. |
| 16:23.42 | Ellipsis | and if all else fails, I'm happy to help if you have any questions :) |
| 16:23.55 | Elgrim | thank you :D |
| 16:24.12 | Elgrim | ill work with unitframes first tho. |
| 16:24.28 | neenee | I use the blizzard frames :P |
| 16:24.39 | Elgrim | ye |
| 16:24.56 | evl | ~seen rabbit |
| 16:24.58 | purl | rabbit <n=chatzill@122.167.74.195> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 78d 23h 54m 9s ago, saying: 'yes, got it, thanks'. |
| 16:25.02 | Elgrim | i just want to move them, possibly make the health and manabar longer |
| 16:25.27 | Elgrim | to give more room for buffs/debuffs |
| 16:25.49 | neenee | I'm fine with the Blizzard ones :) Plenty of room to see what I need |
| 16:26.35 | Elgrim | you aren't a warlock... |
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| 16:26.50 | neenee | Nope, I'm a priest/hunter/shaman/druid |
| 16:27.09 | Elgrim | warlocks need a little extra space for debuffs/buffs |
| 16:27.10 | Elgrim | thats all |
| 16:27.18 | Elgrim | so Id like to make the UF longer |
| 16:27.46 | neenee | Just filter the buffs |
| 16:28.02 | neenee | No need for more room then |
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| 16:30.01 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55715 10XRS/XRS.lua: XRS: Don't parent to WorldFrame so other addons like BigWigs can actually move it in combat, preventing a taint. |
| 16:30.49 | Ozguli- | hahaha |
| 16:30.58 | Ozguli- | Elgrim, warlocks need 2 buttons? :P |
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| 16:31.20 | sdouble | anyone know if arkinventory can show a single item and a total number instead of all the stacks? ie: I have tons of silk and it shows one silk cloth with a number |
| 16:31.42 | Fin | boo |
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| 16:32.48 | kergoth | sdouble: yes, it can. go into its compression options. |
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| 16:35.07 | sdouble | hmmm, I can't find them. I can only see how to actually do the compress and restack |
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| 16:35.42 | Fin | Bankstack ftw! |
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| 16:42.26 | Obelixprime | whats this toggle business? |
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| 16:42.49 | Obelixprime | for /cast |
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| 16:43.41 | Ellipsis | they're changing it back to the old behavior? |
| 16:43.55 | Ellipsis | but actually giving you the option to choose which you want (about time) |
| 16:43.57 | Obelixprime | what was the new behavior |
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| 16:47.44 | Ellipsis | Obelixprime: a patch or two back they changed it to be a toggle instead of attempt to cast |
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| 16:48.01 | Obelixprime | could you elaborate? I don't quite follow |
| 16:48.08 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 16:48.20 | Ellipsis | really, the only people who noticed/cared were hunters |
| 16:48.29 | Ellipsis | so if you don't play a hunter it likely doesn't affect you much |
| 16:48.40 | Obelixprime | no, i'm a shadowpriest |
| 16:48.43 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 16:48.49 | Ellipsis | then it definitely doesn't affect you |
| 16:48.55 | Ellipsis | unless you use wand macros regularly |
| 16:49.04 | Obelixprime | wand macros? |
| 16:49.05 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 16:49.07 | Ellipsis | exactly :P |
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| 17:00.09 | Elgrim | neenee |
| 17:00.11 | Elgrim | you there? |
| 17:01.02 | thul | http://youtube.com/watch?v=2U1xDtC9_v4 |
| 17:01.03 | thul | hahaha |
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| 17:08.09 | Psyker7 | aaaah! |
| 17:08.58 | Ozguli- | Dotted by a warlock or a shadow priest? |
| 17:09.23 | Dotted | hardly :p |
| 17:09.44 | Psyker7 | Wierd.... had server not found errors for a second there with wowace.com... scared me |
| 17:09.50 | Ozguli- | escape with cloak ofshadows! |
| 17:10.50 | Psyker7 | amg 4am... i guess i should bed |
| 17:14.36 | kadrahil | http://ace.pastey.net/77811 |
| 17:14.48 | kadrahil | also happy thanksgiving to you americans |
| 17:15.10 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all :) |
| 17:15.22 | Pkekyo| | screw thanksgiving, geif season 3 |
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| 17:15.44 | Ozguli- | "Santa's here!" |
| 17:15.57 | Ozguli- | "Screw Santa, I'm farming arena gear" |
| 17:16.11 | Ozguli- | bound to happen |
| 17:16.22 | Ozguli- | (in a month) |
| 17:17.03 | SunTsu | Ozguli-: That's so badly wrong. "Great, tell him to put my stuff over there" |
| 17:17.05 | Pkekyo| | hahah |
| 17:17.22 | Pkekyo| | 'did he bring my arena weapons yet?' |
| 17:17.26 | kadrahil | bbl |
| 17:17.31 | kadrahil | family's here |
| 17:17.33 | Ozguli- | wasn't my own quote anyway |
| 17:17.36 | kadrahil | i think |
| 17:17.48 | Ozguli- | kadrahil install some security cameras |
| 17:17.52 | kadrahil | nevermind |
| 17:17.53 | kadrahil | heh |
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| 17:29.37 | neenee | Elgrim: yes |
| 17:30.54 | neenee | Elgrim: ping |
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| 17:38.08 | Ozguli- | 30 minute ping... you should use phone |
| 17:50.34 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r55716 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:50.34 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 17:50.34 | CIA-8 | - Added tooltip display options to melee module |
| 17:50.34 | CIA-8 | - Added manual target level option to melee module |
| 17:53.13 | vrak | when is the baggins auto-sorter going to be taught that there are bigger ammo quivers/pouches? |
| 17:53.34 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 17:53.53 | vrak | you know of the auto-sorter, right? |
| 17:53.59 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 17:54.01 | Ellipsis | I use Baggins |
| 17:54.31 | vrak | well, on my hunter, when i got one of the new bags (20 slotter ammo), it doesn't want to put more ammo into it |
| 17:55.02 | Ellipsis | usually when I swap in a new/larger bag I have to hit "reset new items" for it to notice the new slots |
| 17:55.13 | Ellipsis | you might try that, or even a /rl if that doesn't work |
| 17:55.29 | vrak | it's been like this for a week |
| 17:55.33 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 17:55.41 | Ellipsis | that's odd |
| 17:56.16 | revv | You sure vrak? On kael, my ammo automagically gets put into my 24 slot quiver when I create those legendary arrows .. |
| 17:56.24 | revv | (With Baggins) |
| 17:56.39 | Ellipsis | ammo should always automatically go to your ammo bag, with or without baggins |
| 17:56.43 | revv | I don't recall setting anything special up in those regards. |
| 17:56.45 | Ellipsis | it doesn't (shouldn't) interfere |
| 17:57.31 | vrak | it's not when i buy ammo, that goes by itself, but whenever i'm in an instance or something like that and i get a free slot in my ammo bag, it doesn't want to put ammo from my normal bags into it |
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| 17:57.42 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 17:57.44 | revv | Ahh, now I understand |
| 17:57.46 | revv | Ignore me. |
| 17:57.48 | Ellipsis | I know why |
| 17:57.57 | Ellipsis | it's my fault (kinda) |
| 17:58.22 | vrak | i'd just love a fix for it >_> |
| 17:58.28 | Ellipsis | the dependency on PeriodicTable was removed, and the only thing PT was used for in Baggins was to determine which items could go in which bags |
| 17:58.30 | vrak | and a bindable key or button or something |
| 17:58.44 | Ellipsis | so the autocompress button won't move things to specialty bags the way it used to |
| 17:58.55 | revv | It's never done that, that I am aware. Pre 24-slot quiver, I always carried 5 stacks of arrows in my bags - I'd add them manually with the resort/restack button. |
| 17:59.09 | vrak | that's the button we're talking about |
| 17:59.25 | revv | I like that button. Pure genius :) |
| 17:59.45 | vrak | rather useful, yes |
| 17:59.45 | revv | Would be nifty to be automated for arrows, I completely agree there. L |
| 17:59.46 | revv | :) |
| 18:00.45 | vrak | i dunno about completely automated, since it picks them up, which could get interesting in a figth, but bindable i'd love |
| 18:01.07 | revv | Good point. |
| 18:01.29 | Ellipsis | vrak: as far as I know, if you make sure you have LibPeriodicTable-3.1 installed, the functionality should come back |
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| 18:02.05 | Ellipsis | if it's not embedded in any of your other addons you can download it standalone |
| 18:02.21 | revv | I bet it would be trivial to bind a key to something, unless the frame is local. Hmm. |
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| 18:03.27 | vrak | any easy in-game way of checking if i have it? |
| 18:03.36 | vrak | some variable or something i can /print |
| 18:04.01 | Ellipsis | hm... /print LibStub("LibPeriodicTable-3.1") |
| 18:04.40 | vrak | hum |
| 18:04.44 | vrak | i think it crashed |
| 18:04.55 | Ellipsis | did it pop up an error saying the lib wasn't found? |
| 18:05.04 | vrak | just froze |
| 18:05.09 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 18:05.19 | Ellipsis | I didn't do it! |
| 18:05.24 | vrak | admittedly, i didn't wait on it |
| 18:06.43 | Ellipsis | it may have been loading the lib |
| 18:06.48 | Ellipsis | which would take a while, since it's fairly large |
| 18:07.03 | Ellipsis | do you use embedded or disembedded libs? |
| 18:07.06 | vrak | don't think so, really, unless you can load an embedded lib that way |
| 18:07.23 | Ellipsis | ah, hmm |
| 18:11.59 | revv | vrak: I *think* you can bind a key to something like: /click BagginsBag1.compressbutton |
| 18:12.01 | revv | I think. |
| 18:12.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` |
| 18:12.10 | revv | I am at work, just looked through the code. |
| 18:12.10 | sag_ich_nicht | please have 9001 cookies |
| 18:12.16 | sag_ich_nicht | for finding that BS in XRS |
| 18:12.21 | sag_ich_nicht | my raidtab finally works again. |
| 18:12.27 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 18:13.00 | sag_ich_nicht | the taint XRS was causing was causing opening the raidtab to eat my FPS down to a near negative value |
| 18:13.39 | Kalroth | ouch, which taint was that? |
| 18:13.56 | Kalroth | I've never experienced anything like that and I run XRS all the time |
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| 18:15.18 | thul | bah, installing wine to get gsm vent :-P |
| 18:15.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Kalroth: check the last commit to it |
| 18:16.13 | sag_ich_nicht | MAYBE the problem still exists in combat |
| 18:16.16 | sag_ich_nicht | but out of combat, it works |
| 18:16.17 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 18:16.35 | Kalroth | Oh, it was a XRS + BW issue? |
| 18:17.02 | Funkeh` | no idea |
| 18:17.09 | Funkeh` | had nothing to do with bw |
| 18:17.16 | Funkeh` | just that BW has a module to move the worldframe |
| 18:17.20 | Funkeh` | which it couldn't in combat |
| 18:17.23 | Funkeh` | which revealed the issue |
| 18:17.27 | Kalroth | Aha |
| 18:17.28 | Funkeh` | XRS was stopping it |
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| 18:21.04 | JoshBorke | BW moves the world frame? o.O |
| 18:21.35 | evl_ | flash & shake |
| 18:21.37 | revv | Guessing it's that shake & bake extra. :) |
| 18:21.41 | revv | Err, yeah, flash, |
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| 18:22.01 | JoshBorke | i must not have ever noticed it |
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| 18:25.09 | vrak | revv: doesn't work, though that might be because it doesn't realize there's free space in the bag |
| 18:26.21 | SunTsu | vrak: In the worst case move it's SavedVariables out of the way and restart |
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| 18:30.21 | vrak | hmm, i really hope i don't have to do that and then redo my entire friggin config |
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| 18:30.28 | Towbar | yo |
| 18:31.09 | SunTsu | vrak: It's text files, you can copy back the relevant config |
| 18:32.22 | vrak | sure, it's just a somewhat cumbersome way of doing things |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r55717 10ProfessionsBook/ (6 files): |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-8 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-8 | -Fixed a nil error in line 436 |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-8 | -Fixed color coding for recipes with abreviations (e.g. in the German client "Elixier der Entd. geringer Unsichtbarkeit" |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-8 | -Version number of PB is now displayed in the options dialog |
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| 18:38.10 | Tddupre | my wow ace updater keeps crashing when i open |
| 18:38.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 18:38.25 | Ellipsis | there's a thread just for you, Tddupre |
| 18:38.44 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8298.0 |
| 18:38.58 | Tddupre | k thx |
| 18:41.01 | Tddupre | k it is working now |
| 18:41.45 | _rane | is there an addon that notifies me when something has been dispelled off me? |
| 18:42.22 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r55718 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: frFR Update |
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| 18:47.01 | grennon | did the old api documentation pages get archived before the auto-gen ones went up? |
| 18:49.54 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:50.01 | nevcairiel | the old ones got lost due to server breakage |
| 18:50.05 | nevcairiel | thats why we had new ones |
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| 18:51.15 | Kocoro | Hi.. |
| 18:51.36 | Kocoro | Does anyone know how to get rid of this thing cooldowntimers just threw into the middle of my screen? |
| 18:51.47 | Kocoro | It adds a picture to the announce or something, and I can't make it go away |
| 18:52.02 | Iceroth | set alpha to 0 afaik |
| 18:52.11 | grennon | damn, the docs were kinda handy |
| 18:52.11 | Iceroth | i'd wanna show that but get rid of the text -.- |
| 18:52.27 | Kocoro | thankies |
| 18:52.30 | grennon | im trying to figure out if crayon would be useful for something, but i cant tell what it does now |
| 18:52.31 | grennon | heheh |
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| 19:00.39 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r55719 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: Update zhTW translation. |
| 19:04.39 | grennon | http://web.archive.org/web/20070306040159/http://wowace.com/wiki/CrayonLib |
| 19:04.43 | grennon | archive.org ftw |
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| 19:06.37 | Lukian | grennon, why is the old version better than the current? :p |
| 19:08.19 | CIA-8 | 03poull * r55720 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes-koKR.lua SmartRes.lua SmartRes.toc): SmartRes: Added koKR, small fix of coloring of player names. |
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| 19:13.41 | grennon | Lukian: http://wowace.com/wiki/Crayon-2.0 |
| 19:13.44 | grennon | Lukian: you tell me |
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| 19:14.15 | Lukian | examples, and a brief explanation of what the library is for :) |
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| 19:15.33 | grennon | and descriptions of what the functions are and how they work |
| 19:15.59 | Lukian | indeed |
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| 19:25.30 | Fisker- | anyone here has iphone? |
| 19:27.17 | Mudkipz | I hope they don't |
| 19:29.40 | dylanm | Okay. |
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| 19:30.51 | Pkekyo| | meh...I hate having to categorize my photos >.< |
| 19:33.35 | silentium | anyone here has an idea why my aloft doesnt work any more? it doesnt replace nameplates any more, and when I type "/aloft data" it says "option /aloft data is disabled" |
| 19:34.06 | silentium | I've completely reinstalled it and all used libraries (I run disembedded) already, and deleted all of Aloft's SV files in the WTF folder |
| 19:34.29 | silentium | also, in the Rock config window the Data option is greyed out |
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| 19:55.01 | CIA-8 | 03jncl * r55721 10Skinner/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:55.01 | CIA-8 | Skinner: Skinned AutoProfitX, Buffalo2, InventoryOnPar, Planner, SmartBuff & Spyglass |
| 19:55.01 | CIA-8 | - Updated RockConfig, Examiner skins |
| 19:55.01 | CIA-8 | - Updated GuildBankUI, PlayerTalentFrame, InspectTalentFrame code |
| 19:55.01 | CIA-8 | - Turned off Debugging |
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| 20:02.50 | CIA-8 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Beta * r55722 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceConfigTab-3.0.lua: |
| 20:02.50 | CIA-8 | AceTab-3.0: AceConfigTab-3.0 |
| 20:02.51 | CIA-8 | - don't try to complete if we don't match an options table |
| 20:06.05 | miica | any idea about that shows little "guy" that shows your dura |
| 20:06.21 | Ellipsis | er, what about him? |
| 20:07.46 | miica | :D |
| 20:07.55 | miica | wtf i am talking.. |
| 20:08.06 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 20:08.39 | Industrial | oo kinky ;o |
| 20:08.47 | Ellipsis | mmm...tastes like troll |
| 20:08.49 | Ellipsis | ;P |
| 20:08.54 | Industrial | correct! :D |
| 20:08.57 | miica | is there addon that shows little guy.. and guy is red when dura is low and yellow and plaa plaa |
| 20:09.03 | Industrial | !c eu grim batol Seryan |
| 20:09.05 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan, Level 61 Troll Hunter (41/11/0). 4224 HP; 2671 Mana; 83 mana regen; 5 mp5; 863 AP; 106.400 Melee DPS; 6.33% melee crit; 26 melee hit; 806 RAP; 171.20 Ranged DPS; 13.13% ranged crit; 26 ranged hit; 6.09% dodge;[[ TBR: 1080 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysgvr2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34vhyh ][ Updated: Thu Nov 22 11:15:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:09.08 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 20:09.08 | Ellipsis | miica: that's in the default UI |
| 20:09.14 | Ellipsis | lol Industrial |
| 20:09.17 | Fisker- | Ellipsis you have an iphone? |
| 20:09.29 | Lukian | miica, you can use SmoothDurability to customise it though |
| 20:09.30 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: fortunately no, 'cause if I did I'd kill myself |
| 20:09.52 | Industrial | dfasf I have 1000 RAP mmk :| |
| 20:09.53 | Lukian | !c us Jubei'Thos zandor |
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| 20:09.56 | Fisker- | true |
| 20:09.56 | ThraeBot | Lukian: Zandor, Level 60 Dwarf Hunter (36/15/0). 4470 HP; 3345 Mana; 88 mana regen; 10 mp5; 3307 Armour; 820 AP; 116.600 Melee DPS; 5.72% melee crit; 16 melee hit; 821 RAP; 123.00 Ranged DPS; 12.32% ranged crit; 16 ranged hit; 6.53% dodge;[[ TBR: 1087 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29eaoe ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34oxtd ][ Updated: Thu Nov 22 11:16:22 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:09.58 | miica | lol in default ui? :D |
| 20:10.07 | Polarina | Everyone! Please try to contribute to Warcraft Realms! http://www.warcraftrealms.com/mostwanted.php |
| 20:10.10 | Lukian | Industrial, i win |
| 20:10.21 | Fisker- | Someone in here had an iphone |
| 20:10.22 | Fisker- | i am sure of it |
| 20:10.26 | miica | Ellipsis: is it been there always? |
| 20:10.38 | Industrial | !vs eu grim batol Seryan us jubei'thos zandor |
| 20:10.38 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan vs Zandor! Seryan has +1 lvls on Zandor (61 vs 60); Two hunters square off!; 41/11/0 vs 36/15/0; Zandor wins by 7 TBRs! |
| 20:10.42 | Industrial | pff |
| 20:10.44 | Ellipsis | miica: yes, as far back as I can remember...but it only shows when it gets to low dura on at least one item |
| 20:10.51 | Lukian | Industrial, hahaha XD |
| 20:11.21 | Industrial | Lukian: like I said my stats are not what I last logge dout with :( (alot more) |
| 20:11.40 | Ellipsis | Industrial lies |
| 20:11.42 | Lukian | I'm still 60 though too, so I don't have the sexy 61 gun yet |
| 20:11.45 | Ellipsis | epeen--; |
| 20:12.29 | Industrial | what sexy 61 gun |
| 20:12.30 | thul | I'm thinking about lvling a char |
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| 20:13.38 | Gnarfoz | lawl we fail at ZA |
| 20:14.16 | Industrial | ah http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24389 |
| 20:14.18 | Industrial | 19% drop BF |
| 20:14.23 | Industrial | havent been there yet |
| 20:14.48 | Lukian | that's the one |
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| 20:16.45 | miica | Ellipsis: ok there isnt realy "stabl" SmoothDurability versio? |
| 20:17.11 | Ellipsis | SmoothDurability uses Ace3, which is still beta afaik...so no |
| 20:18.20 | Ellipsis | there may be other addons out there that play with the armored man |
| 20:18.32 | Ellipsis | I haven't really looked for that, myself |
| 20:18.50 | miica | hmm.. :) |
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| 20:22.52 | CIA-8 | 03nebelmond * r55723 10OptiTaunt/ (8 files): |
| 20:22.52 | CIA-8 | OptiTaunt: |
| 20:22.52 | CIA-8 | - fixed bug for horde whisper messages |
| 20:22.52 | CIA-8 | - added paladin support |
| 20:22.52 | CIA-8 | - added SinkLib for more refined warning options |
| 20:23.27 | Mudkipz | o_o |
| 20:23.34 | pakoz | yo |
| 20:23.42 | pakoz | anyone know where to get a level 1 gray pair of pants at? |
| 20:23.54 | Mudkipz | tristifal |
| 20:24.05 | pakoz | im on a hordie |
| 20:24.06 | Ellipsis | do I want to know? |
| 20:24.16 | pakoz | @... its for |
| 20:24.21 | pakoz | mystic spell thread |
| 20:24.25 | Polarina | pakoz: Azeroth → Eastern Kingdoms → Trisifal Galdes. |
| 20:24.28 | Ellipsis | o.O;; |
| 20:24.30 | pakoz | you put it on them, then you can use it on a level one |
| 20:24.37 | Ellipsis | but...why |
| 20:24.43 | pakoz | @... once your done with em |
| 20:24.44 | Ellipsis | making a level 1 twink? |
| 20:24.45 | Mudkipz | cos he likes to waste money |
| 20:24.46 | pakoz | @... you can sell em |
| 20:24.54 | pakoz | the legs last until like level 50 |
| 20:24.56 | pakoz | from 1-50 |
| 20:25.01 | Lukian | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=qu=0;sl=7;minrl=1;maxrl=1 |
| 20:25.12 | pakoz | 100g for an item that last 50 levels and then you can resell it |
| 20:25.17 | pakoz | i dont think you can beat that |
| 20:25.44 | pakoz | prob the best money i've ever spent in wow |
| 20:25.53 | CIA-8 | 03nebelmond * r55724 10OptiTaunt/embeds.xml: |
| 20:25.53 | CIA-8 | OptiTaunt: |
| 20:25.54 | CIA-8 | - fixed typo in embeds.xml |
| 20:25.56 | pakoz | thanks polar |
| 20:25.57 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 20:26.09 | pakoz | can you think of anything better ;p? |
| 20:26.18 | Mudkipz | yeah |
| 20:26.24 | Mudkipz | I dont have an alt to level 1-50 |
| 20:26.29 | Mudkipz | so I don't need to spend 100g |
| 20:26.45 | pakoz | you can sell em for 65g easy |
| 20:26.59 | pakoz | but assuming your leveling an alt, it saves time |
| 20:27.03 | pakoz | which is money |
| 20:27.09 | pakoz | prob in the end i come out in the + |
| 20:27.32 | Ellipsis | pakoz: use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=10035 instead |
| 20:27.43 | Ellipsis | no required level and it has some actual armor o.O |
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| 20:27.51 | Lukian | good idea |
| 20:28.01 | Ellipsis | plus, easier to get |
| 20:28.03 | pakoz | looks good |
| 20:28.04 | Ellipsis | since you don't have to farm |
| 20:28.38 | Lukian | lol they are item level 35 too Ellipsis |
| 20:28.44 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 20:28.53 | Ellipsis | they're crafted from mageweave |
| 20:28.59 | Ellipsis | but since they're just a flavor item they have no min level |
| 20:29.49 | Chomp | does anyone know if you can kill the hex guy in ZA without killing the other bosses? |
| 20:30.27 | pakoz | i dont know, sorry |
| 20:30.39 | pakoz | i dont rember seeing any gates though |
| 20:30.40 | pakoz | so probably |
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| 20:32.17 | miica | Ellipsis: cant get smoothdurability anywhere :< |
| 20:33.04 | Ellipsis | it's on the svn |
| 20:34.52 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r55725 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Added pettarget - party and partypet grouping can now be set as group with self, parent or free |
| 20:35.14 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 20:35.33 | Lukian | oh, hot |
| 20:35.44 | Lukian | Ellipsis cheering that is :p |
| 20:36.42 | Mudkipz | lol I love quakenet |
| 20:36.59 | Mudkipz | [12:36:20] ::: Mode: (@Adnade) sets (+b) (*!*@66-215-38-143.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com) |
| 20:37.09 | Mudkipz | [12:37:05] ‹ Adnade › Why the fuck do you think i have op for? |
| 20:37.16 | Mudkipz | [12:37:50] ‹ Adnade › I have op to abuse it |
| 20:37.27 | Ellipsis | um |
| 20:37.29 | Ellipsis | welcome to IRC |
| 20:37.32 | Ellipsis | ;D |
| 20:37.53 | Mudkipz | I've been banned there more times compared to the years I've been on rizon |
| 20:37.55 | Mudkipz | combined |
| 20:38.29 | Mudkipz | anyway Im gonna go and stuff myself |
| 20:38.30 | Mudkipz | o/ |
| 20:38.33 | Ellipsis | hf |
| 20:41.53 | pakoz | http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7914/asdcm4.jpg |
| 20:42.37 | pakoz | holy god; Freezing Trap is no longer limited to one target at a time. |
| 20:42.40 | pakoz | ... |
| 20:42.59 | pakoz | gonna be like hex lords freezing trap ;x |
| 20:43.02 | Industrial | ho shi- |
| 20:43.32 | Fisker- | yayayayayay |
| 20:43.37 | Fisker- | we took down stupid leo again |
| 20:45.00 | pakoz | we've never gotten a tsunami talisman to drop |
| 20:45.07 | pakoz | we've gotten more glaives than tsunami's |
| 20:45.18 | Chomp | nice one Fisker- |
| 20:45.58 | Fisker- | had a wipe on 1% on the first try :I |
| 20:47.37 | Fisker- | i want you under my umbrella Chomp |
| 20:47.48 | CIA-8 | 03nebelmond * r55726 10OptiTaunt/OptiTaunt.lua: |
| 20:47.48 | CIA-8 | OptiTaunt: |
| 20:47.48 | CIA-8 | - disabled debug leftovers from testing |
| 20:49.15 | Chomp | i want my umbrella in you Fisker- |
| 20:50.11 | Fisker- | awesum |
| 20:50.27 | Chomp | eagle boss down |
| 20:50.29 | Chomp | horay |
| 20:50.32 | pakoz | @... http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9569/bampv4.jpg |
| 20:50.33 | pakoz | grats |
| 20:51.09 | pakoz | phat lewtz? |
| 20:51.11 | Fisker- | isn't that only runic spellthread? |
| 20:51.15 | Chomp | lame loot |
| 20:51.32 | pakoz | mystic spell thread, ya |
| 20:55.21 | pakoz | anyone know for 2.3 |
| 20:55.24 | pakoz | Many elite creatures and quests in the level 1-60 experience have been changed to accommodate solo play |
| 20:55.29 | pakoz | if that was a buff or reduction? |
| 20:55.30 | hyperChipmunk | pakoz: no, it's going back to how it used to be |
| 20:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | each trap is only one target |
| 20:55.49 | hyperChipmunk | but if you freeze another while one is trapped, the first doesn't break |
| 20:56.18 | silentium | pakoz: it's a nerf (for the mobs), many former elite mobs are now non-elite so ppl can solo them and dont need a group any more |
| 20:56.34 | hyperChipmunk | if you have readiness to reset your cooldown or you're survival specced so that the cooldown is less than the duration or the first one has been on the ground awhile before being tripped |
| 20:58.35 | pakoz | thx silent/hyper |
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| 21:00.13 | Xinhuan | morning all :) |
| 21:01.05 | Fisker- | so who has an iphone here? |
| 21:01.07 | Elgrim | Hello dear modders. |
| 21:01.10 | Fisker- | i promise not to make fun of you |
| 21:01.47 | Elgrim | Was wondering if there is some way to import borders to quartz? Id like the "Blizzard Dialog" border. Only options I have is Default or None. |
| 21:01.52 | Elgrim | Import possible here? |
| 21:03.35 | Ellipsis | only if someone actually puts support for LSM borders in |
| 21:04.19 | Elgrim | You do that honi :D |
| 21:04.39 | Ellipsis | don't have a svn account :P |
| 21:04.58 | Elgrim | hehe |
| 21:05.38 | Stanzilla | well |
| 21:05.54 | Stanzilla | there are enough devs in here .P |
| 21:06.03 | Elgrim | ok |
| 21:06.12 | Elgrim | who do I harrass about this? :D |
| 21:06.15 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla, how about you add it! |
| 21:06.21 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it mag |
| 21:06.24 | sag_ich_nicht | stop bugging |
| 21:06.25 | Stanzilla | who about I can't code? |
| 21:06.32 | sag_ich_nicht | 24% and the cubes bugged AGAIN |
| 21:06.59 | Xinhuan | bugged? |
| 21:07.08 | Fisker- | awww sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:07.15 | Fisker- | less qq moar qq |
| 21:08.48 | Elgrim | Damn I really need this border |
| 21:09.05 | Elgrim | bugs me to see that castbar... |
| 21:09.48 | Ellipsis | you could put an eePanel behind it or something if it's that much of a problem :P |
| 21:09.51 | Stanzilla | Elgrim: X-eMail: nymbia@gmail.com <- author's email |
| 21:10.34 | pakoz | does eepanels have a gui yet/ |
| 21:10.46 | pakoz | i hate doing that crap by /commands |
| 21:11.06 | Ellipsis | um... |
| 21:11.26 | Ellipsis | eePanels can be set up from dewdrop, niagara, rock config, ... |
| 21:11.40 | pakoz | i dont have any of those ;x |
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| 21:11.53 | Ellipsis | you can do it from the dewdrop menu on the fubar/minimap icon |
| 21:12.21 | Ellipsis | or deucecommander if you use that |
| 21:12.54 | pakoz | hmm dont have either of those either |
| 21:12.54 | silentium | anyone here with WoWEquip experiences? when comparing the currently loaded set to another saved set, I'd like to see the other set's item instead of the currently equipped one in the equip compare frame (Iuse EQCompare) - would be even cooler if RatingBuster's stat comparison would support that too |
| 21:13.17 | Ellipsis | blame Xinhuan |
| 21:13.26 | CIA-8 | 03adirelle * r55727 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (5 files): |
| 21:13.26 | CIA-8 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 21:13.26 | CIA-8 | - switched to LibPeriodicTable-3.1, |
| 21:13.26 | CIA-8 | - added an option to disable while resting. |
| 21:13.34 | Elgrim | Ellipsis |
| 21:13.37 | Xinhuan | uh |
| 21:13.38 | Kemayo | Morpheus|Zzz: I am around now. |
| 21:13.40 | Xinhuan | whats up |
| 21:13.49 | Elgrim | i then get the eepanel there when the castbar is not :( |
| 21:13.55 | Elgrim | that would bug me aswell |
| 21:13.56 | silentium | pakoz: you should have an eePanels minimap button even if you dont use Fubar |
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| 21:14.00 | Ellipsis | pakoz: no matter what, you can configure it from the dropdown on the minimap icon |
| 21:14.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:14.13 | Ellipsis | you don't have to "have" anything for that |
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| 21:14.35 | Ellipsis | Elgrim: parent it to the cast bar, duh :P |
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| 21:14.39 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:14.41 | Xinhuan | silentium, rating buster's default behavior is to compare against equipped, hard coded in ;p |
| 21:14.43 | Xinhuan | can't change that |
| 21:14.55 | silentium | hmkay, too bad |
| 21:15.14 | Xinhuan | however, i'll consider your request when i have time :) |
| 21:15.33 | Elgrim | Ellipsis, never done that, ill try it out |
| 21:15.39 | silentium | I just wanted to easily compare items from different sources, to know which one I should go after (and without doing all the math by myself :) |
| 21:15.57 | Xinhuan | been so busy i haven't even wrote the talent-support stuff yet |
| 21:16.23 | silentium | sure, no worries, I just wanted to know if it was already possible and I only was blind ;) |
| 21:21.28 | Elgrim | Ellipsis |
| 21:21.35 | Elgrim | I think you'r gonna have to help me out :( |
| 21:22.27 | CIA-8 | 03gandharva * r55728 10Mendeleev/Set_Instances_61-70.lua: |
| 21:22.27 | CIA-8 | Mendeleev: |
| 21:22.27 | CIA-8 | - added Zul'Aman stuff |
| 21:25.25 | sag_ich_nicht | raid abort because of mag bugging again |
| 21:25.27 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 21:25.44 | Xinhuan | how is it bugged? |
| 21:26.41 | Fisker- | http://i2.tinypic.com/7340sqv.jpg <-reported for spam :I |
| 21:27.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiar1 |
| 21:27.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i found a way to debug omen without bothering people forever |
| 21:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | found out my hunter has the same bug with his pet |
| 21:27.56 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 21:28.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i can just go and test it with him |
| 21:28.50 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, doesn't that grid setup feel a little redundant to you? :P |
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| 21:28.59 | Fisker- | why? |
| 21:29.04 | Ellipsis | um |
| 21:29.08 | Ellipsis | because things are dead AND dead |
| 21:29.12 | Ellipsis | or dead AND oor |
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| 21:29.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:29.25 | Fisker- | yes, because we wiped? |
| 21:29.30 | Ellipsis | right... |
| 21:29.42 | Ellipsis | but it seems like if they're dead you don't really need to know that they're also dead |
| 21:29.45 | Ellipsis | or oor |
| 21:29.53 | Ellipsis | duplicated info makes me cry x.x |
| 21:30.04 | sag_ich_nicht | me too |
| 21:30.10 | Fisker- | ah |
| 21:30.34 | Fisker- | thought you were talking about removing the raid buttons or so |
| 21:30.48 | _rane | how big is the weekend bg honor bonus? |
| 21:30.52 | Ellipsis | no, just making the first indicator not show "dead" when they're dead |
| 21:30.57 | Ellipsis | since the bottom one already will x.x |
| 21:32.38 | Chomp | Lynx boss is crazy |
| 21:32.43 | Chomp | 15k hits on tanks |
| 21:32.53 | [Ammo] | get 2 tanks in front of him |
| 21:32.55 | [Ammo] | they share the damage |
| 21:32.56 | Chomp | that's with 2 people |
| 21:32.57 | [Ammo] | -> less |
| 21:33.08 | Chomp | crazy huh :S |
| 21:34.17 | Xinhuan | that means one of your tanks isn't in front of him |
| 21:34.27 | Xinhuan | despite where he think he is standing |
| 21:34.46 | Pkekyo| | anyone here fairly competent with Photoshop? |
| 21:35.43 | Ellipsis | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/photoshops.png |
| 21:36.09 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 21:36.12 | Pkekyo| | seriously though? |
| 21:36.32 | Ellipsis | don't look at me, I do all my image editing in leet mspaint |
| 21:38.05 | Pkekyo| | anyone? |
| 21:38.13 | Zhinjio | whats up? |
| 21:38.39 | Pkekyo| | know any decent way to have eyes appear as if they're glowing? |
| 21:39.04 | Zhinjio | do you have a filter that removes "flash" glow from eyes? |
| 21:39.43 | Pkekyo| | err...there's the 'red eye tool'...? |
| 21:39.46 | Zhinjio | right. |
| 21:39.52 | Zhinjio | do that on normal eyes? |
| 21:40.17 | Zhinjio | or, select the whites and give them a white soft glow |
| 21:40.38 | Pkekyo| | well, the eyes are pretty much invisible (nighttime photo) |
| 21:40.42 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 21:41.18 | Zhinjio | any contrast on them should make them look glowy then |
| 21:41.35 | Zhinjio | even just "lighten" should work |
| 21:42.12 | Zhinjio | back to being idle. Sorry if that didn't/doesn't help. |
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| 21:42.46 | Xinhuan | select that portion of the eyes and stretch the contrast maybe? |
| 21:42.47 | kadrahil | !ar 500 |
| 21:42.47 | ThraeBot | kadrahil: Arena rating from 500 points is, 2v2: 1693, 3v3: 1657, 5v5: 1626 |
| 21:43.31 | Pkekyo| | thanks for the tips Zhinjio |
| 21:44.02 | Pkekyo| | I just painted two pixels on a new layer and did outer/inner glow on them :) thanks for the tips though |
| 21:47.05 | Kivin | Nevcairiel here? |
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| 21:48.22 | Orionshock | morning all |
| 21:48.34 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin |
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| 21:53.04 | Chomp | lynx down |
| 21:53.06 | Chomp | horay x2 |
| 21:53.15 | Xinhuan | ~clap chomp |
| 21:53.20 | Xinhuan | aww no ~clap |
| 21:53.22 | Chomp | #golfclap |
| 21:53.50 | hyperChipmunk | ~applaud Chomp |
| 21:53.51 | purl | ACTION pins Chomp to the wall with steak knives, then gives Chomp a hanging ovation |
| 21:54.15 | Xinhuan | someone should be bored enough and add all 180 emotes to purl from wow ;p |
| 21:54.16 | hyperChipmunk | classic |
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| 21:54.32 | Elgrim | hyperChipmunk |
| 21:54.32 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen the vid of the lock soloing hydross? |
| 21:54.38 | Elgrim | hello there administrator |
| 21:54.42 | Elgrim | I got a task for you |
| 21:54.43 | Elgrim | :P |
| 21:54.53 | Xinhuan | lock soloing hydross? sounds like a private server |
| 21:54.59 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 21:55.02 | [Ammo] | easy as pie too :p |
| 21:55.06 | [Ammo] | took 160 mins |
| 21:55.10 | Industrial | o_O |
| 21:55.11 | Xinhuan | ~whalecrit [Ammo] |
| 21:55.12 | purl | ACTION crits [Ammo] with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. [Ammo] dies |
| 21:55.15 | Xinhuan | how? |
| 21:55.18 | [Ammo] | kite |
| 21:55.18 | Elgrim | Dear administrator |
| 21:55.21 | Hotphoenix | hydross has a 10min enrage o.O |
| 21:55.28 | [Ammo] | kite |
| 21:55.34 | Elgrim | you are to enable Border support in Quartz for Blizzard Dialog and Blizzard Tooltip |
| 21:55.34 | Xinhuan | where did he kite |
| 21:55.52 | Elgrim | aye @ammo? you can do that? :D |
| 21:55.52 | nevcairiel | Kivin: sup? |
| 21:56.07 | Xinhuan | would still need a guild to clear the space to kite |
| 21:56.12 | nevcairiel | true |
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| 21:56.35 | Xinhuan | but i suppose 1-manning a boss |
| 21:56.38 | Ellipsis | there's just the person you needed Elgrim |
| 21:56.40 | Xinhuan | is something unheard of |
| 21:56.56 | Xinhuan | even onyxia requires 2 ppl minimum |
| 21:57.35 | Silowyi | Xinhaun: Not really |
| 21:57.40 | Silowyi | I mean sure for Onyxia... but |
| 21:57.57 | Elgrim | Hello Nymbia. You are the Author of Quartz yes? |
| 21:58.05 | Silowyi | well all of MC for one, that warrior bug with 1289798 AP or whatever |
| 21:58.05 | nymbia | so i'm told |
| 21:58.08 | Elgrim | I got a request to make :D |
| 21:58.08 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 21:58.13 | Funkeh` | no you're not nymbia |
| 21:58.16 | Funkeh` | fuck off, liar |
| 21:58.17 | nymbia | :( |
| 21:58.18 | Xinhuan | but that's an exploit |
| 21:58.22 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't count ;p |
| 21:58.30 | Silowyi | Azureus has been hunter kited |
| 21:58.33 | Elgrim | Your great addon needs border support! Would like the Blizzard Tooltip and Blizzard Dialog borders! |
| 21:58.43 | Funkeh` | btw nymbia you left some debugg in branch somewhere spamming 'player' int he chatframe |
| 21:58.48 | Funkeh` | couldn't find it |
| 21:58.51 | Silowyi | Ret pally bug on Kazaak |
| 21:59.03 | Xinhuan | pfft i just said bugs don't count |
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| 21:59.09 | nymbia | Funkeh`: does the branch work? the last couple commits were total drycode, lol |
| 21:59.14 | Elgrim | nymbia thats easily fixed ye? |
| 21:59.16 | Arrowmaster | oh man i just had this really really evil idea for a library management addon |
| 21:59.22 | Funkeh` | nymbia, yeah, but menu still doesn't open |
| 21:59.23 | Silowyi | Ysondre... Shadow reflector engineering trinket |
| 21:59.29 | nymbia | Funkeh`: damn |
| 21:59.37 | nymbia | Funkeh`: it's getting there though |
| 21:59.38 | Silowyi | Xinhaun well you still have Azuregos |
| 21:59.47 | Xinhuan | that trinket has a 5 min cooldown |
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| 21:59.56 | Funkeh` | nymbia, not really bothered, just couldn't find wtf was spamming 'player' in my god damn chat frame :P |
| 21:59.58 | Silowyi | Xinhaun it was bugged |
| 22:00.07 | Silowyi | not the trinket |
| 22:00.09 | Silowyi | but the ability |
| 22:00.15 | nymbia | Funkeh`: haha |
| 22:00.30 | Silowyi | basically you reflect whatever the old attack was (I forget) and instant death for the green dragon |
| 22:00.35 | Silowyi | the fights were lasting all of 12 seconds |
| 22:00.38 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 22:00.50 | Silowyi | they changed the attack though the first week after that. |
| 22:00.58 | Silowyi | now she does something else |
| 22:00.59 | CIA-8 | 03nymbia 07Ace3 * r55730 10Quartz/Player/Player.lua: |
| 22:00.59 | CIA-8 | Quartz: |
| 22:00.59 | CIA-8 | - Less chat spam |
| 22:01.00 | nymbia | Funkeh`: ^ |
| 22:01.16 | Xinhuan | is that branch usable nymbia? |
| 22:01.18 | Ellipsis | but but...I like spam! |
| 22:01.25 | nymbia | Xinhuan: not really |
| 22:01.26 | Elgrim | nymbia did you get my request? :D |
| 22:01.39 | buu | Antiar1: Hey, you alive? |
| 22:01.48 | nymbia | Elgrim: yeah |
| 22:01.50 | Stanzilla | (adding support for SharedMedia borders) |
| 22:01.51 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 22:01.57 | Elgrim | btw, its the best castbar adon ever. however it needs border support! blizzard tooltip and blizzard dialog |
| 22:01.59 | Xinhuan | not really? |
| 22:02.01 | Elgrim | great man |
| 22:02.16 | [Ammo] | nymbia: remember there is no 'first' argument to OnEnable in ace23 |
| 22:02.18 | [Ammo] | ace3 even |
| 22:02.42 | nymbia | [Ammo]: ah, good to know |
| 22:02.57 | [Ammo] | something I picked up from checking your branch code |
| 22:02.57 | nymbia | easy enough to implement locally |
| 22:03.02 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 22:03.09 | [Ammo] | if really needed |
| 22:03.32 | Ellipsis | does/will the Ace3 Quartz have pet cast bar? >_> |
| 22:03.49 | Silowyi | I've heard a lot of talk about Quartz lately |
| 22:04.02 | nymbia | if someone asks really nice then it might end up with one ;) |
| 22:04.12 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 22:04.26 | Arrowmaster | local first = true; function ...:OnEnable() if first == true then ... else first = false end end |
| 22:04.53 | buu | HA HA ELLIPSIS |
| 22:04.56 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 22:04.57 | nymbia | hehe |
| 22:05.12 | Arrowmaster | do local first = true function ...:OnEnable() if first == true then ... else first = false end end end |
| 22:05.18 | Silowyi | what exactly is Quartz? |
| 22:05.30 | Xinhuan | its a casting bar replacement |
| 22:05.31 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 22:05.34 | nymbia | something HORRIBLE |
| 22:05.38 | Ellipsis | yeah, don't use it |
| 22:05.38 | Silowyi | so |
| 22:05.41 | Silowyi | what does it do? |
| 22:05.46 | Ellipsis | it's so bad, it doesn't even have a pet cast bar yet |
| 22:06.08 | Silowyi | also does it play nicely with Perl/X-Perl? |
| 22:06.14 | Xinhuan | yes it does |
| 22:06.17 | Ellipsis | it doesn't interfere with other addons |
| 22:06.25 | Ellipsis | it's pretty much standalone and plays quite nicely in fact :P |
| 22:06.45 | Xinhuan | if you use quartz, you would typically disable player/target Arcane Bar, but leave party ArcaneBars on |
| 22:06.51 | Xinhuan | since quartz doesn't have party cast bar support |
| 22:06.59 | Ellipsis | ^hint hint^ |
| 22:07.16 | Ellipsis | I want it to be like, enter a unit ID and get a cast bar...that'd be neat |
| 22:07.20 | Silowyi | so... if you use the arcane bars for the player, then Quartz doesn't play nice? |
| 22:07.22 | CIA-8 | 03nymbia 07Ace3 * r55731 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 22:07.22 | CIA-8 | Quartz: |
| 22:07.22 | CIA-8 | - Fake a 'first' for OnEnable, as the module loading needs to happen after OnInit |
| 22:07.31 | Ellipsis | it works just fine |
| 22:07.34 | Ellipsis | it's just duplicated info |
| 22:07.36 | Xinhuan | fact though, is xperl does integrate castbars nicely right into the unitframe itself |
| 22:07.37 | Silowyi | bah |
| 22:07.41 | Aens|Superiority | party castbars should be handled by party frames, not a castbar mod. |
| 22:07.43 | Silowyi | yeah that's the thing Xinhaun |
| 22:07.44 | [Ammo] | nymbia: no need though :p |
| 22:07.46 | [Ammo] | for your first |
| 22:07.51 | Xinhuan | so i like it |
| 22:08.03 | nymbia | [Ammo]: how do you mean? |
| 22:08.03 | [Ammo] | if I coded my shit in aceaddon right you don't need that trick |
| 22:08.19 | [Ammo] | it will always init modules first |
| 22:08.22 | [Ammo] | and enable them after the core |
| 22:08.23 | Silowyi | Xinhaun: Trying to determine if there's any benefit to using Quartz if I want to use the unitframe castbar |
| 22:08.33 | nymbia | [Ammo]: oh nice, i'll give it a shot |
| 22:08.36 | Xinhuan | there is "some" benefit Silowyi |
| 22:08.46 | Wogroipl | X-perl unitftrames are butt ugly imo |
| 22:08.47 | Silowyi | Xinhaun: I will investigate further then! |
| 22:08.47 | Xinhuan | quartz adds debuff bars support |
| 22:08.49 | Industrial | where can I read all the pros/cons of going aldor/scryer |
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| 22:08.59 | Silowyi | I use EBB anyway |
| 22:09.01 | Ellipsis | Industrial: there's a really good wowwiki page |
| 22:09.07 | Xinhuan | for eg, if you proc frostbite on your target, it creates extra bars under your castbars for it (module) |
| 22:09.12 | Silowyi | Industrial: wowwiki is your friend |
| 22:09.13 | Ellipsis | it should be in the popular pages bar on the left |
| 22:09.20 | Industrial | k |
| 22:09.26 | Xinhuan | or if you create 20 bandages, it can conbine all 20 into a single castba |
| 22:09.27 | Silowyi | Xinhaun: NECB and EBB can do that. |
| 22:09.28 | Arrowmaster | so is acedb-3.0 going to have namespaces? |
| 22:09.28 | Xinhuan | castbar |
| 22:09.29 | Industrial | got it |
| 22:09.36 | Silowyi | Xinhuan: Oooh that's nice |
| 22:09.36 | Xinhuan | that goes from 1-->20 |
| 22:09.53 | Xinhuan | it adds latency into your castbar |
| 22:10.01 | Silowyi | I don't need that |
| 22:10.02 | Xinhuan | so you can use /stopcast macros (before 2.3) well |
| 22:10.10 | Xinhuan | and it has a swing timer bar as well |
| 22:10.10 | Silowyi | my character's name is Latency |
| 22:10.21 | Ellipsis | lol? |
| 22:10.22 | Silowyi | so I already have "Latency" in the cast bar, or at least, right next to it |
| 22:10.25 | Xinhuan | so you can always see when your next attack swing is |
| 22:10.44 | Silowyi | I'll have to play with it |
| 22:10.47 | Xinhuan | it also adds a flightpath bar if you have supporting addons with the relevant info |
| 22:10.58 | Silowyi | maybe replace SCT with it, since I really only use SCT to count strings of dodges :P |
| 22:11.16 | Xinhuan | oh it also adds a GCD bar |
| 22:11.19 | Xinhuan | (lol) |
| 22:11.47 | Ellipsis | hay, I like GCD bar |
| 22:11.50 | Ellipsis | it is halpful |
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| 22:17.23 | Gagorian | !ap 1800 |
| 22:17.23 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: Arena points from a rating of 1800 is, 2v2: 578, 3v3: 669, 5v5: 760 |
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| 22:18.02 | Ellipsis | ow |
| 22:18.14 | sag_ich_nicht | better dodge |
| 22:18.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:18.15 | aestil | is there a cmd / command for making a txt file of a directory? |
| 22:18.24 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 22:18.27 | Xinhuan | what operating system |
| 22:18.31 | Wobin | ls -la > dir.txt ? |
| 22:18.32 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't matter |
| 22:18.35 | sag_ich_nicht | dir > dir.txt |
| 22:18.36 | Wobin | dir > dir.txt |
| 22:18.45 | Xinhuan | dir /l > dir.txt |
| 22:18.47 | Xinhuan | dir /b > dir.txt |
| 22:18.50 | Xinhuan | depending on what you want |
| 22:18.58 | Xinhuan | the /b switch is usually what you would want |
| 22:20.20 | Pkekyo| | what is actually a 'nuclear winter'? |
| 22:20.56 | Chomp | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter |
| 22:21.24 | silentium | tree > dir.txt could also be helpful if you think about files in subdirs |
| 22:21.31 | Wobin | it's when the fallout from a nuclear explosion causes massive widespread destruction to the point where weather patterns, etc get disrupted and a 'winter' occurs |
| 22:21.56 | Wobin | due to the blocking out of the sun |
| 22:22.28 | Xinhuan | its when scientists have to start thinking about how to "vacuum cleaner" the air to suck all the dust out of it ;p |
| 22:22.48 | Pkekyo| | sounds interesting...if there's ever gonna be one, I hope it happens when I'm still alive! |
| 22:22.48 | Pkekyo| | would make some great photos I'd imagine :) |
| 22:23.24 | Chomp | espically when you die of radiation poisoning |
| 22:23.26 | Chomp | cool! |
| 22:23.42 | Pkekyo| | meh, I doubt anyone would even consider bombing this shithole tbh |
| 22:24.08 | Pkekyo| | no important natural resources, no important strategical targets...no nothing tbh...just a bunch of old farts and bored teenagers |
| 22:24.19 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.22 | Orionshock | arg.... |
| 22:24.24 | Wobin | a perfect target for testing then |
| 22:24.43 | Wobin | Orionshock: no, vararg ... |
| 22:24.55 | Pkekyo| | haven't they tested enough nukes to know how they work yet? |
| 22:24.58 | Orionshock | the problem with smaller raid groups, it forces the incompetent to lead raids..... ad we all know how that works... |
| 22:27.01 | Pkekyo| | hmm, come to think about it, we've got some pretty important natural resources after all....complete fuckloads of oil! |
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| 22:28.04 | Pkekyo| | hmm, maybe I shouldn't have said that... |
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| 22:28.54 | Pkekyo| | CK become active here again btw? |
| 22:29.15 | Ellipsis | hasn't gotten his computer back yet, but somewhat |
| 22:29.29 | Pkekyo| | gotten it back? gave it away? |
| 22:30.02 | Stanzilla | broke it |
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| 22:30.28 | Pkekyo| | impressive :p |
| 22:31.25 | Pkekyo| | I haven't gotten the hang of actually breaking computers yet |
| 22:31.53 | Pkekyo| | only fried a couple of graphicscards etc |
| 22:32.13 | Pkekyo| | well, I shortcircuted an entire hardwaresystem once (tried to build a computer without a chassis) :) |
| 22:33.09 | Xinhuan | i have an interesting thought. |
| 22:33.38 | Pkekyo| | ...? |
| 22:33.55 | Xinhuan | if you make an addon do ReloadUI() on VARIABLES_LOADED event, and call this addon "zzzzzzzzzzzz" so it loads last |
| 22:34.04 | Xinhuan | would the UI make the loading bar go from 100% to 0%? :) |
| 22:34.34 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:34.45 | Ellipsis | who would ever think of that |
| 22:34.53 | Xinhuan | that's why its an interesting thought |
| 22:35.00 | Xinhuan | because i'm sure nobody has ever thought of it before :P |
| 22:35.31 | Ellipsis | weirdo |
| 22:35.44 | Wogroipl | does anyone know of a nice app to check if all PC components are still ok? |
| 22:35.46 | Xinhuan | an addon could conceivably do this 10 times to do an average of "loading times" values of each addon, say in warmup :D |
| 22:36.19 | Wogroipl | My machine seems to be really slow atm, did a virus scan... noresults |
| 22:36.19 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: define 'are still ok'? |
| 22:36.34 | Pkekyo| | it's only slow? |
| 22:36.34 | durcyn | Xinhuan: have you been drinking? |
| 22:36.42 | Wogroipl | I think either the memory or the gfx card are not entirely ok |
| 22:36.47 | Xinhuan | no, but i got bored and my mind started wandering |
| 22:37.03 | Pkekyo| | your graphics card wouldn't make your comp run slow....defective memory would probably shut it down completely... |
| 22:37.05 | Wogroipl | it's slow, and sometimes gfx are fubar |
| 22:37.08 | Pkekyo| | did you reboot it? |
| 22:37.15 | Wogroipl | numerous times :P |
| 22:37.43 | Wogroipl | well it seems to be very slow loading gfx and stuff |
| 22:37.55 | Pkekyo| | checked temperatures? |
| 22:37.56 | Ellipsis | temps? |
| 22:38.02 | Wogroipl | sometimes in WoW the ground or something is missing |
| 22:38.06 | Pkekyo| | also: remaining harddrive space? |
| 22:38.06 | Wogroipl | temps are ok |
| 22:38.15 | Wogroipl | plenty hd space |
| 22:38.19 | Wogroipl | 100G free |
| 22:38.38 | Pkekyo| | sounds like a rather unstable system...did you mess around with voltage settings or something? (did that myself and fried a comp once) |
| 22:38.48 | Wogroipl | nope, I don't dare |
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| 22:39.09 | Wogroipl | but yeah, it sounds unstable |
| 22:39.09 | Pkekyo| | keep on don't daring, it's alot cheaper :p |
| 22:39.40 | Pkekyo| | did you update your graphics drivers lately? |
| 22:39.40 | Pkekyo| | is the 'slowness' directly related to graphics errors you're experiencing? |
| 22:39.49 | Wogroipl | CPU is at 40 degrees celcius, GPU at 44 |
| 22:40.09 | Wogroipl | 48 ish while running WoW |
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| 22:40.52 | Pkekyo| | ram/HDD temperatures? |
| 22:40.52 | Wogroipl | the slowness seems to occur even when loading XP |
| 22:41.14 | Wogroipl | I con't have an app to check hdd and ram temps |
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| 22:41.17 | Wogroipl | don't* |
| 22:41.19 | Pkekyo| | I would say harddrive about to crash based on own experiences...can't guarantee anything though |
| 22:41.26 | Seipher | Hi |
| 22:41.39 | Fisker- | anyone here with an iphone? |
| 22:41.50 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: go download the app HDD Health, check temperatures |
| 22:42.08 | Wogroipl | well, if it does I'm very happy that I have WoW and everything important on different disks :) |
| 22:42.11 | Pkekyo| | might also help you detect any other problems with your drives (if there is any) |
| 22:42.29 | Wogroipl | ok, I'll check it |
| 22:42.34 | Seipher | Hey I am thinking of writing a mod to simplify something I am currently doing in a macro (so it is going to be a pretty simple mod). Essentially swapping in cheap ammo for Arcane/Steady shot before the shot fires and swapping back to good ammo after. |
| 22:43.02 | Seipher | Thing is I am not sure if I can hook a function like swapping ammo to the beginning of a spell in that way. |
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| 22:43.56 | nevcairiel | <random rant>You know, hunters suck. Not only that they can save money on repair costs, now they also want to save money by using cheaper ammo where possible. </rant> |
| 22:44.01 | Seipher | heh |
| 22:44.02 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 22:44.12 | Ellipsis | I was just gonna say, how freaking broke do you have to be to think of something like that |
| 22:44.16 | Seipher | Try going through 25g worth of ammo in a raid and then we will talk |
| 22:44.35 | Xinhuan | what ammo costs 25g |
| 22:44.43 | Seipher | Timeless arrows |
| 22:44.44 | Xinhuan | and how many hours worth would it take to reach 25g |
| 22:44.56 | Seipher | A single raid even with ammo swapping will do it |
| 22:45.03 | Xinhuan | and why would you use timeless arrows on trash clearing |
| 22:45.09 | Seipher | Seriously I didn't come here to argue about ammo |
| 22:45.30 | nevcairiel | I dunno how that is with ammo anyway, weapons give GCD, i would think ammo does too |
| 22:45.37 | Seipher | Nope |
| 22:45.41 | Seipher | No GCD on ammo |
| 22:45.44 | Ellipsis | OP |
| 22:45.54 | nevcairiel | I bet [Ammo] hates us already for talking about ammo |
| 22:46.00 | kebinusan | Not like you cant FD and save a repair bill and you really dont need to be using expensive ammo for trash |
| 22:46.04 | Xinhuan | what you can do it probabbly hook a macro up to your spell that equips a set in ItemRack or Closetgnome or whatever similar addon you use |
| 22:46.10 | Seipher | Seriously do you guys just bitch about other classes in here? |
| 22:46.14 | kebinusan | in the end Id say it balances out with what other classes spend |
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| 22:46.17 | Xinhuan | so you could switch to "a set that uses timeless arrows" |
| 22:46.22 | Xinhuan | inside the macro |
| 22:46.25 | aestil | Seipher: yes, thats all we do, all day long. |
| 22:46.31 | Aens|Superiority | kebinusan: oh god, If only our hunters knew how to FD. |
| 22:46.32 | Seipher | cool just wondering ;-) |
| 22:46.33 | Xinhuan | or just use /use Timeless Arrows |
| 22:46.40 | Wogroipl | Pkekyo| 1 hdd shows as having a temp of 119?? |
| 22:46.45 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 22:46.48 | Xinhuan | and /use <insert normal arrows> |
| 22:46.48 | Ellipsis | that's not good |
| 22:46.54 | Wogroipl | I guess not |
| 22:46.57 | aestil | kebinusan: no way does it work out to the costs of my mana pots and repair bills. |
| 22:47.02 | Ellipsis | tried cleaning out your case? :P |
| 22:47.10 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: seems you're fucked then :p |
| 22:47.21 | Xinhuan | so /use Cheap Ammo /cast Arcane Shot |
| 22:47.23 | Seipher | aestil: Cause hunters don't use mana pots or ever die |
| 22:47.23 | Wogroipl | the other 2 are 31 degrees |
| 22:47.26 | Xinhuan | no idea if it would work! |
| 22:47.30 | Pkekyo| | let me guess...your chassis is fuckall full of dustbunnies? |
| 22:47.34 | aestil | hunters in my group dont' use mana pots. |
| 22:47.42 | Aens|Superiority | most hunters dont use mana pots. |
| 22:47.42 | Seipher | Bad hunters imo |
| 22:47.46 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 22:47.46 | Wogroipl | can't be...cleaned it last week |
| 22:47.47 | aestil | and they die a lot less often than everyone else. |
| 22:47.48 | Seipher | And they raid that way? |
| 22:47.49 | Ellipsis | aestil is a manapriest |
| 22:47.51 | Seipher | Wow |
| 22:47.53 | Ellipsis | I mean shadowpriest |
| 22:47.53 | Xinhuan | there is only ONE fight i give hunters a shadow priest btw :) |
| 22:47.57 | Xinhuan | there is only ONE fight i give hunters a shadow priest btw :) |
| 22:47.57 | Ellipsis | so his party doesn't need pots :P |
| 22:48.03 | Xinhuan | and that fight is Azgalor ;p |
| 22:48.08 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: hmm, what do you run off the harddrive running at 119 degrees? |
| 22:48.14 | nevcairiel | I never give hunters a shadow priest |
| 22:48.16 | aestil | Xinhuan: we have 3 manapriests. |
| 22:48.18 | nevcairiel | unless we take 3 agian |
| 22:48.23 | aestil | mages/hunters, then healers/locks. |
| 22:48.23 | Xinhuan | well not every guild has 3 :( |
| 22:48.24 | sb | no way |
| 22:48.30 | sb | mages, then healers |
| 22:48.31 | Fisker- | someone |
| 22:48.31 | aestil | l2 run with 3. |
| 22:48.32 | sb | no hunters :p |
| 22:48.33 | Fisker- | have an iphone |
| 22:48.34 | Fisker- | NOW |
| 22:48.42 | Xinhuan | actually i have 4 in my guild |
| 22:48.42 | sb | grats |
| 22:48.43 | nevcairiel | depends on the fight, sometimes healers first |
| 22:48.48 | Xinhuan | but only 2 are online usually |
| 22:48.49 | aestil | sb: your hunter dps goes up substantially with a SP. its not even close. |
| 22:48.52 | Pkekyo| | SeipherSeriously do you guys just bitch about other classes in here? <------ constantly....why? |
| 22:48.54 | sb | not with arcane mages :p |
| 22:49.01 | aestil | nevcairiel: we use 5 healers for KT, and they dont' need SP's in that fight. |
| 22:49.09 | sb | 5 healers KT?? |
| 22:49.11 | sb | wtf :p |
| 22:49.13 | nevcairiel | KT is no healing intensive fight |
| 22:49.18 | Aens|Superiority | kael is different. There is alot of idle time in that fight |
| 22:49.25 | aestil | indeed there is. |
| 22:49.25 | nevcairiel | get to black temple, all healing encounters |
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| 22:49.38 | sb | naj'entus healing sucks! :) |
| 22:49.46 | aestil | we killed HWN on our first attempt, on our first night in the instance. |
| 22:49.53 | Seipher | Well anyways back to the point, I use a macro currently. The reason I want to be able to do it as an addon is so I can easily change the type of ammo I am using for [Expensive Ammo]. Currently I have Warden's, Timeless and Mysterious arrows just commented out in the two macros, if I want to change the ammo I am swapping I have modify them manually. I would like to write the addon so I can select the ammo easily. That is all really |
| 22:49.55 | aestil | i'm not too woried. |
| 22:50.01 | Xinhuan | i've never brought more than 6 healers to KT |
| 22:50.14 | nevcairiel | we usually take 6 too, yeah |
| 22:50.18 | aestil | we killed the second boss in hyjal with 5 healers. |
| 22:50.31 | sb | easy - its not about healing |
| 22:50.35 | Ellipsis | Seipher: I think Xinhuan's set idea works best for that |
| 22:50.39 | aestil | sb uh, yes it is. |
| 22:50.42 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: hmm, what do you run off the harddrive running at 119 degrees? |
| 22:50.44 | nevcairiel | like i said, black temple is the instance about healing |
| 22:50.46 | Ellipsis | make an "expensive ammo" set in your preferred equipment mod |
| 22:50.49 | Wogroipl | Pkekyo| the hdd that is so hot only has passive data |
| 22:50.54 | sb | well no, rogues at 1 spot., casters max range (out of shadow thingie) |
| 22:51.03 | Wogroipl | drawings I made and stuff |
| 22:51.04 | aestil | huh? |
| 22:51.06 | sb | possible with even 3 or 4 healers then ;p |
| 22:51.24 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: I'd suggest doing a backup asap zulu then....do a manual temp-check afterwards |
| 22:51.24 | aestil | second boss puts a healing debuff on people, which makes their healing output 25% of normal? |
| 22:51.26 | Aens|Superiority | nevcairiel: not really. najentus, bloodboil, council and illidan are the only ones I can think of where a shadow priest would help healers. |
| 22:51.28 | Seipher | Xinhuan's idea was to use a macro no? That is what I am already doing. |
| 22:51.28 | sb | i know |
| 22:51.34 | Xinhuan | i gave 2 ideas |
| 22:51.37 | Wogroipl | already started the backup, thanks :) |
| 22:51.48 | Xinhuan | the other one is to include in your Itemrack or whatever addon an "expensive ammo" set |
| 22:51.57 | Xinhuan | so you would need to modify that set |
| 22:51.58 | sb | aestil: get casters out of range and let them do infernals only, 1 healer + 1 FR tank there |
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| 22:52.02 | Xinhuan | rather than the macro |
| 22:52.06 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 22:52.06 | sb | aestil: all melee + healer to boss |
| 22:52.10 | sb | easy stuff then |
| 22:52.14 | Pkekyo| | if either of my drives would go tits up I'd be crippled for ages |
| 22:52.16 | nevcairiel | Aens|Superiority: my mana reg is the first to suffer when i put on shadow resist, shahraz is a bitch without a spriest |
| 22:52.17 | Ellipsis | modifying the set in a GUI might be easier than modifying the macro the way you have it now |
| 22:52.38 | Orionshock | i guess i can't do else;if |
| 22:53.01 | Aens|Superiority | nevcairiel: not like people are taking much damage on shaz. only the retards serious damage that a hot can't handle. |
| 22:53.07 | aestil | well, whatever. we brought 8 healers the next week and he was easy. with 5 it was extermely hard. |
| 22:53.07 | Seipher | I see what you mean. Hmmm, yeah I suppose that works. It still isn't as clean as I'd like, mainly I am trying to get a feel for the Ace and WoW api's with this. Figured I would pick something easy to start with |
| 22:53.12 | Aens|Superiority | retards take* |
| 22:53.14 | nevcairiel | Aens|Superiority: tanks need healing too :P |
| 22:53.32 | Aens|Superiority | lifeblooms on the offtanks is all you need. a pally or two on the main tank. |
| 22:53.44 | sb | aestil: and well, there are healers and healers... :p |
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| 22:53.59 | aestil | sb: yeah, we have the best on our server *shrugs* |
| 22:54.07 | nevcairiel | we usually go for safety rather then max dps |
| 22:54.13 | Primer | Hi, I know this is a bit offtopic, but: Can someone recommend a php nuke module for raid calendars? |
| 22:54.14 | sb | aestil: *sigh* :p |
| 22:54.22 | sb | we also have some good healers... :p |
| 22:54.39 | nevcairiel | and fwiw, illidan is the one fight where i dont need a spriest :P |
| 22:54.39 | Aens|Superiority | we have no shamans :( |
| 22:54.47 | aestil | we had a couple guys from best guild on server run with us, and they basically said 'uh, wow, your healers are amazing' |
| 22:54.59 | Aens|Superiority | our guild bought a shaman and had main raiders play it to kill illidan |
| 22:55.14 | aestil | they working on illidian, we are working on archimonde, but they raid 6 nights, 5 hours, and we raid 3 nights 3.5 hours. |
| 22:55.19 | Seipher | Ouch BT is rough without Shaman |
| 22:55.20 | nevcairiel | i usually hang around in the tank group for my tree aura, and i do fine |
| 22:55.44 | Xinhuan | hyjal trash is rough without grounding totems ;p |
| 22:55.45 | sb | oh and btw |
| 22:55.51 | sb | <3 <3 <3 CoH :p |
| 22:56.09 | nevcairiel | archimonde is tough without shamans to eat your fear |
| 22:56.22 | Seipher | I've heard impossible |
| 22:56.23 | Xinhuan | bring 5 shamans ;p |
| 22:56.25 | aestil | we have 3, but ones computer is broken, and we cry a lot about that. |
| 22:56.26 | Xinhuan | and 3 priests! |
| 22:56.34 | nevcairiel | we have 3 shamans usually |
| 22:56.34 | Xinhuan | cheese it |
| 22:56.38 | sb | (since 2.3 - finally something to keep up with shaman chain heal) |
| 22:56.50 | Xinhuan | there was a guild on my server, they brought 5 dwarf priests to archimonde to kill him |
| 22:56.51 | aestil | Xinhuan: we can't live yet, only tried 5 or 6 times after we cleared hyjal first time. |
| 22:56.51 | Xinhuan | after patch 2.3 |
| 22:56.56 | nevcairiel | hahaa |
| 22:56.56 | Xinhuan | they failed to kill it LOL |
| 22:56.59 | nevcairiel | why dwarfs? |
| 22:57.03 | nevcairiel | all priests have antifear now |
| 22:57.03 | Xinhuan | fear ward |
| 22:57.03 | aestil | FW |
| 22:57.04 | Seipher | So just out of curiousity does anyone know if it is possible to hook functions to a specific spell? |
| 22:57.04 | sb | hahaha |
| 22:57.06 | nevcairiel | nooblets |
| 22:57.31 | Xinhuan | Seipher, no :) |
| 22:57.36 | Xinhuan | but you can listen for spellcast events |
| 22:57.37 | Xinhuan | and react to it |
| 22:57.56 | Seipher | Yeah I remember hearing they removed it in 2.0. That probably won't work as once the spell is cast it is too late to swap |
| 22:57.58 | Xinhuan | which is what casting bar addons do |
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| 22:58.16 | Xinhuan | not much you can do about it |
| 22:58.20 | Xinhuan | just make macros and manual swap |
| 22:58.25 | nevcairiel | we just told our priests on archimonde to fw themself when its ready, and dispell fear off others, no real use in organizing it anymore with the cooldown |
| 22:58.36 | Seipher | Guess I will have to stick to macros. One option would be to write an addon that modifies the macros I suppose |
| 22:58.48 | aestil | i think horde have a slightly easier time on archimonde, because they tend to have access to more shaman, as well as WotF and FW. |
| 22:58.58 | aestil | but, the fight isn't really about fear. |
| 22:58.59 | Xinhuan | wow isn't exactly a game where you make mods to play the game for you |
| 22:59.02 | Xinhuan | as a suggestion though |
| 22:59.06 | Xinhuan | i suggest you make your macro |
| 22:59.11 | Xinhuan | equip a specific slot in your bags |
| 22:59.18 | nevcairiel | having some fear control makes the fight easier at first |
| 22:59.25 | nevcairiel | but once you really got it, its not needed any more |
| 22:59.29 | Xinhuan | so if you want to make the macro equip Timeless Arrows, then put timeless arrows in that bag/slot specifically |
| 22:59.40 | Seipher | I don't really see how making a mod to make it so I don't manually edit the macros is 'playing the game' for me but whatever |
| 22:59.42 | Xinhuan | if you want to make the macro equip some other arrow, then place that arow there |
| 22:59.48 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 22:59.53 | Ellipsis | Seipher, we don't make the rules :P |
| 23:00.15 | Xinhuan | there's lots of macros out there that can pick up and equip and item from a specific bag/slot |
| 23:00.20 | Xinhuan | so its probably the easiest way |
| 23:00.46 | Xinhuan | say, bag 4, slot 18 |
| 23:01.09 | Xinhuan | arrows will still start to be used slowly from slot 1 |
| 23:01.19 | Xinhuan | so slot 18 would remain filled |
| 23:01.20 | Seipher | Yeah that could work |
| 23:01.57 | Pkekyo| | I have a graphics card with one DVI and one VGA output...if I connected a DVI monitor to the DVI output (and disconnected VGA), would that automatically be picked up as the primary monitor? |
| 23:02.08 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|, yes |
| 23:02.21 | Poul|Raider | how do i make a shortcut in linux. i want to make so when i do cd games/ from my home dir, then it send me to /media/xxx/Wo... if anyone should know :) |
| 23:02.37 | Xinhuan | it doesn't really matter, you can also connect a VGA monitor to a DVI output via a dvi-vga adapter |
| 23:02.51 | Xinhuan | most gxcards come with the adapter in the box too |
| 23:02.52 | Pkekyo| | yeah, just that I'm considering to buy a DVI monitor... |
| 23:03.02 | Pkekyo| | I have like 5 of those adapters allready |
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| 23:03.31 | Pkekyo| | would a DVI monitor benefit me at all? :p |
| 23:03.39 | Pkekyo| | or is it just fancypants stuff I don't need? |
| 23:03.50 | Xinhuan | only if you watch videos that have DVI stuff |
| 23:03.52 | Civrock | Much better picture quality than VGA. |
| 23:04.01 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: care to elaborate? |
| 23:04.15 | dhask | morning! |
| 23:04.21 | Xinhuan | i haven't heard of any game that uses features that DVI has to offer? |
| 23:04.29 | Primer | Hi, I know this is a bit offtopic, but: Can someone recommend a php nuke module for raid calendars? |
| 23:04.36 | Seipher | Alright well thanks for the help Xinhuan. I think I have an approach that will at least make things easier in terms of using different ammo on trash without changing the macros now. Still a little dissapointed, really want to try and get into doing some add-on development, maybe something else will come to me |
| 23:04.40 | dhask | dvi doesn't have any features over a VGA cable, per se |
| 23:04.45 | dhask | it's just digital, instead of analog |
| 23:05.02 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 23:05.04 | Civrock | And if you compare picture quality, you'll see. ;) |
| 23:05.23 | dhask | dvi generally produces a better image on an LCD panel |
| 23:05.49 | dhask | but I find, is less reliable longer term |
| 23:05.54 | nevcairiel | analog has the side effect that it tends to loose quality on high resolutions, but any 22" or so will come with DVI, and you should use it.. :) |
| 23:06.18 | Xinhuan | basically, don't buy a monitor just because its DVI. |
| 23:06.25 | dhask | ya, if it comes with dvi, use it |
| 23:06.25 | Xinhuan | buy a monitor only if you really need a monitor |
| 23:06.27 | dhask | if not, don't sweat it |
| 23:06.28 | Xinhuan | not because its DVI |
| 23:06.33 | dhask | you *need* a 22" lcd panel though |
| 23:06.39 | Seipher | Yeah buy it because its really really big |
| 23:06.44 | Pkekyo| | dhask: if it's over a DVI cable then? |
| 23:07.23 | dhask | pkekyo|, buy the monitor you like, use the cables provided |
| 23:07.31 | Wogroipl | I bought a samsung 226BW a month ago, and I'm still soooo happy tih it |
| 23:07.35 | dhask | if you buy an LCD panel, you're almost certain to get a DVI cable |
| 23:07.37 | Wogroipl | with* |
| 23:07.42 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: I -really- need a monitor....ninjaed my brother's monitor and now he's ninjaing it back x) |
| 23:07.56 | dhask | I also heartily recommend an LCD over a CRT |
| 23:07.58 | Xinhuan | almost any monitor you buy nowadays is DVI |
| 23:08.05 | Xinhuan | so the point is moot |
| 23:08.09 | Pkekyo| | dhask: the monitor I'm considering comes with both a DVI connector and a DVI cable...just wondered if it was worth it.. |
| 23:08.19 | dhask | well, it *needs* some sort of cable |
| 23:08.46 | Pkekyo| | 1.7k for a 19" widescreen with max resolution 1440x900 sound any good? |
| 23:08.53 | dhask | it's more or less the difference between a coax cable and RCA plugs for AV components |
| 23:08.54 | Seipher | BTW anyone aware of any add-ons causing the crap FPS people are reporting in 25-man raids |
| 23:09.03 | dhask | if you have an old TV, it will take coax only |
| 23:09.07 | Ellipsis | ...that's way too vague a question, Seipher |
| 23:09.18 | dhask | if you have a newer TV, it will take RCA |
| 23:09.31 | dhask | pkekyo|, $1700? |
| 23:09.40 | dhask | what's your currency? |
| 23:09.50 | nevcairiel | thats like expensive |
| 23:09.58 | durcyn | he's norwegian, so probably not USD |
| 23:10.01 | Ellipsis | nok |
| 23:10.02 | dhask | no, probably not |
| 23:10.05 | Xinhuan | Seipher, there's onlyone known addon that does this... bongos or something |
| 23:10.07 | Xinhuan | forgot which oen it is |
| 23:10.11 | dhask | I have no idea of the relativel value of the euro |
| 23:10.14 | Xinhuan | updating it would be fine |
| 23:10.18 | Wogroipl | my 22 inch cost me 300 euros |
| 23:10.27 | nevcairiel | i paid 300€ for my 22" a month ago, i am pretty happy with it |
| 23:10.28 | Ellipsis | doesn't one of the bots have a currency conversion? |
| 23:10.35 | Xinhuan | as it stands, its mostly a wow.exe issue, not an addon issue |
| 23:10.42 | dhask | ok, so one euro is not too far off one USD ? |
| 23:10.47 | Pkekyo| | dhask: 1700 NOK, about 6NOK/1USD |
| 23:10.56 | Xinhuan | because plenty of people reported unplayable fps but only when engaging a boss - without any addons installed |
| 23:11.00 | Seipher | Yeah, thats what I figured, its driving me nuts though. |
| 23:11.07 | dhask | lua> 1700/6 |
| 23:11.07 | lua_bot | dhask: 283.33333333333 |
| 23:11.09 | nevcairiel | 1 euro is like 1.4 USD right now |
| 23:11.13 | Pkekyo| | iirc we pay arseloads of taxes on electronics :< |
| 23:11.20 | dhask | pkek, that's a little expensive for a 19" |
| 23:11.34 | dhask | pkek, hint: the speakers built into monitors are good for the Windows alert "dings" and not much else |
| 23:11.53 | dhask | pkekyo, I'm in Australia, where we pay approximately 100% tax on imported luxury goods, and all electronics are considered luxury goods |
| 23:12.10 | dhask | pkekyo, and my 22" LCD panel with built in speakers didn't cost me more than A$400 |
| 23:12.17 | dhask | which at the time was probably around US$300 |
| 23:12.28 | Pkekyo| | it's an LG 19" widescreen LCD... no speakers on it though |
| 23:12.39 | dhask | LG is generally a decent brand |
| 23:12.43 | dhask | have you seen it in operation? |
| 23:12.46 | Seipher | Sigh, alright this is odd. I just updated my mods with WAU and Itemrack-2.1 is giving me errors everytime I try to open the options window. Itemrack isn't even an Ace addon. |
| 23:12.49 | dhask | what's the response time? |
| 23:12.53 | Pkekyo| | 5ms |
| 23:12.54 | dhask | is it 6-bit color or 8-bit color? |
| 23:13.01 | Pkekyo| | nothing but good stuff to say about it on zeh webshop |
| 23:13.14 | dhask | (you can tell because 6-bit color is "millions of colors" while 8-bit color is a specific number) |
| 23:13.24 | Pkekyo| | "Up to 16.2 million colors" |
| 23:13.30 | nevcairiel | its probably a default TN panel with 7-bit |
| 23:13.43 | dhask | ya, 16.2mil is 6- or 7-bit with dithering |
| 23:14.04 | Pkekyo| | err...huh? |
| 23:15.02 | Xinhuan | i woke up 2 hours ago |
| 23:15.07 | Xinhuan | i've been chain prospecting for 1.5 hours |
| 23:15.08 | dhask | pkekyo|, in theory, all monitors show 8 bits of color information per pixel |
| 23:15.15 | dhask | pkekyo|, or 24-bit color total |
| 23:15.25 | Pkekyo| | ok..? |
| 23:15.29 | dhask | pkekyo|, in practice, most monitors show 6- or 7-bits of color, and use dithering to fake the rest |
| 23:15.39 | Pkekyo| | ~dict dithering |
| 23:15.48 | dhask | it produces a significantly cheaper panel, with a slight decrease in quality |
| 23:16.03 | nevcairiel | the TN panel was a design compromise, that dropped 1 bit of colors |
| 23:16.16 | nevcairiel | its used in like all 17-19 and most of the 22 |
| 23:16.24 | nevcairiel | its cheap and fast |
| 23:16.31 | nevcairiel | but lacks the color, and soem viewing angle |
| 23:16.34 | dhask | unless you have exceptional vision or you're doing specific work, you won't notice the difference |
| 23:16.45 | Pkekyo| | well, the next viable option is more than 1k more expensive soeh... |
| 23:16.58 | Pkekyo| | dhask: according to the army, I have slightly shitty vision :p |
| 23:17.11 | Pkekyo| | working alot with photos and design though |
| 23:17.12 | nevcairiel | you really dont notice the flaws the TN panel has |
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| 23:17.27 | Pkekyo| | (hence: the need fora huge, but cheap, panel with a high resolution) |
| 23:17.28 | nevcairiel | not in current products, anyway |
| 23:17.33 | nevcairiel | they worked around most of the stuff |
| 23:18.30 | nevcairiel | anyway, i'll call it a night, laters |
| 23:18.37 | Pkekyo| | I can't really afford to pop an additional 1000....so does the monitor in question sound like a reasonable purchase? |
| 23:18.39 | Pkekyo| | g'nite nevcairiel |
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| 23:19.18 | nevcairiel | the specs sound reasonable, the price sounds a bit too high, but that might be your tax, so yeah. |
| 23:20.01 | Pkekyo| | it's just 100 NOK more than a similar monitor with a 1280x1024 resolution |
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| 23:21.06 | Pkekyo| | and the speccs on that version is rather shitty in comparison too |
| 23:21.25 | Pkekyo| | dhask: does photoediting and graphical design go under your definition of 'specific work'? |
| 23:22.05 | Xinhuan | if you do it for a job, yes |
| 23:22.09 | dhask | pkekyo|, if you're expecting a high standard then yes |
| 23:22.09 | Xinhuan | if you do it as a hobby, no |
| 23:22.30 | Pkekyo| | well, currently a hobby...hopefully a job in the future |
| 23:23.04 | Pkekyo| | but then again, if I get it as a job, I'll be able to buy a really good monitor :) |
| 23:23.04 | Pkekyo| | wtb paycheck for being a student |
| 23:23.06 | dhask | pkekyo|, if your vision isn't perfect then it probably won't make a difference to you |
| 23:23.25 | Pkekyo| | dhask: scored 7/9 on the army's vision test |
| 23:24.03 | Pkekyo| | and I'm apparently almost deaf on my left ear as well according to them lol >.< |
| 23:25.41 | Pkekyo| | meh, I hate publicly released products filled to the brim with typoes |
| 23:27.37 | Pkekyo| | dhask: you fairly competent when it comes to hardware? |
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| 23:29.53 | dhask | pkekyo|, not really |
| 23:30.04 | dhask | pkekyo|, I did a little bit of research about flat panels when I was looking to buy my 22" |
| 23:30.18 | Pkekyo| | meh |
| 23:30.18 | Pkekyo| | need to find out wether or not my graphics card is DVI-D or DVI-A |
| 23:30.28 | dhask | what's your card? |
| 23:30.54 | Pkekyo| | I think (threw the box away >.<) it's a Sapphire Radeon x1650 512MB PCI-E 16x |
| 23:31.29 | Pkekyo| | "1 x DVI-I - 29-pin kombinert DVI" is in it's description (kombinert = combined) |
| 23:31.38 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: if your card is DVI-A then you got riped off |
| 23:31.40 | dhask | DVI-I should be both DVI-D and DVI-A |
| 23:32.08 | dhask | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI |
| 23:32.18 | dhask | about half way down there, you can see some images showing what the various plugs look like |
| 23:32.19 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: exactly my thoughts on the busject |
| 23:32.46 | dhask | if there's a horizontal piece of metal with two pins above and two pins below, plus either 18 or 24 pins beside it, you have DVI-I |
| 23:32.50 | Camci | guys this new pet |
| 23:32.54 | Camci | rare dragonkin or what ever |
| 23:32.59 | Camci | where do you farm it? |
| 23:33.00 | Camci | what is it called? |
| 23:33.08 | dhask | DVI-A has the strip plus four pins, but beside it there are only 12 pins |
| 23:33.11 | Arrowmaster | and the connecter isnt always correct btw, my monitor has a DVI-I connector and came with a DVI-I cable but it only supports DVI-D |
| 23:33.26 | dhask | camci, if you mean the azure whelpling, you farm it from the cave of azure dragonkin in middle winterspring |
| 23:33.42 | dhask | arrowmaster, DVI-D is the only one a PC user should care about anyway |
| 23:33.46 | Camci | dhask thats the one that came with 2.3 right ? |
| 23:33.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 23:33.49 | dhask | camci, yes |
| 23:33.55 | Wogroipl | I'm off, thanks for the help Pkekyo| |
| 23:34.00 | Camci | cheers man thanks |
| 23:34.07 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: pleasure :) |
| 23:34.36 | dhask | pkekyo|, although I can't say it with authority, I'm confident in saying that your radeon x1650 will support DVI-D |
| 23:34.48 | dhask | since ATI's cards have done DVI-D output since the early days of the radeon line |
| 23:35.07 | dhask | I have a radeon x850xt or similar, it does DVI-D, and drives my 22" LCD just fine |
| 23:35.22 | dhask | until TBC, I also ran with a minimum FPS of 35, and an average of 59.6 |
| 23:35.27 | dhask | stupid TBC :( |
| 23:35.34 | Pkekyo| | it has a cross, (+) with one pin in between each of the 'arms', and an additional 24 pins on the side |
| 23:35.44 | Arrowmaster | just about every card with a DVI port does DVI-D or DVI-I, its usually the ones with 2xDVI and 0xVGA that have DVI-I |
| 23:36.23 | Arrowmaster | since you need a DVI-A or DVI-I to use those DVI to VGA adapters |
| 23:36.39 | Pkekyo| | 12 pins = DVI-A, correct? |
| 23:36.43 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 23:37.08 | Arrowmaster | the 12/24 pins are DVI-D |
| 23:37.13 | Pkekyo| | dhaskDVI-A has the strip plus four pins, but beside it there are only 12 pins <---- wut? |
| 23:37.28 | dhask | pkekyo|, look at the wikipedia page I linked |
| 23:37.30 | Arrowmaster | since the cable can actually carry data for two monitors over the DVI-D |
| 23:37.47 | dhask | DVI connectors have a horizontal tab connector on one side |
| 23:38.07 | Bejitt- | wtf i thought 0 was a logical false in lua |
| 23:38.08 | Pkekyo| | so there's no way of telling from the looks of the connector on my graphicscard? |
| 23:38.13 | dhask | there are usually four pins around that, above and below |
| 23:38.24 | dhask | lua> 0 and "yes" or "no" |
| 23:38.24 | lua_bot | dhask: yes |
| 23:38.25 | Pkekyo| | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/DVI_Connector_Pinout.svg/300px-DVI_Connector_Pinout.svg.png <--- that's how my gfx card connector looks |
| 23:38.29 | Gnarfoz | not all DVI connects carry all the 24 pins |
| 23:38.34 | Bejitt- | gah |
| 23:38.34 | dhask | bejitt-, nope |
| 23:38.38 | Arrowmaster | lua> not not 0 |
| 23:38.38 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 23:38.38 | Gnarfoz | that's only necessary for Dual Link DVI |
| 23:39.01 | dhask | pkekyo, if you have all 24 pins there, it's DVI-I dual link |
| 23:39.11 | Pkekyo| | dual link? |
| 23:39.15 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.18 | dhask | not important |
| 23:39.22 | dhask | you have DVI-D output |
| 23:39.23 | dhask | :) |
| 23:39.31 | Pkekyo| | yay :) |
| 23:39.31 | Arrowmaster | dual link cables can carry data for two monitors |
| 23:40.03 | Arrowmaster | not all cards output in dual link though |
| 23:40.13 | Pkekyo| | so I can theoretically run two DVI-D monitors and one VGA monitor on my graphics card? |
| 23:40.43 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
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| 23:41.23 | Pkekyo| | so running two DVI-D monitors would kill the VGA connection? |
| 23:41.24 | dhask | pkekyo|, not unless it's explicitly listed as a capability |
| 23:41.44 | dhask | most cards use the DVI-I dual link connector because it's cheaper to just have one type of connector for everything the manufacturer produces |
| 23:41.48 | Arrowmaster | it might not even support two DVI-D monitors if it doesnt have 2x DVI connectors |
| 23:41.55 | dhask | it doesn't mean they can *use* those capabilities |
| 23:42.10 | Arrowmaster | and using a DVI-I dual link connector means every cable will work with it |
| 23:42.16 | Pkekyo| | cheapass manufacturer basstards :p |
| 23:42.22 | Arrowmaster | its a good thing |
| 23:42.30 | Arrowmaster | means you dont have to purchase lots of DVI cables |
| 23:42.46 | Arrowmaster | if you used different types of DVI |
| 23:43.24 | Pkekyo| | but...lots of cables = WIN |
| 23:43.37 | Arrowmaster | cables are ftl |
| 23:43.54 | Arrowmaster | i dont goto lan partys anymore due to the excessive amount of cables on my system |
| 23:44.04 | Pkekyo| | heheh |
| 23:44.06 | Arrowmaster | soo many usb cables |
| 23:44.13 | dhask | I'm still waiting for power via wireless :( |
| 23:44.33 | Pkekyo| | I've started ducttaping cablelines together to get them properly to the 'appropriate' spot with as little clutter as possible |
| 23:44.43 | sb | yay, 230V/50A wireless! :p |
| 23:44.48 | sb | wtb %-) |
| 23:46.37 | Arrowmaster | ive got like 1 mouse, 1 keyboard, 2 'gamepads' (not really gamepads, nostromo n52 and ideazon fang), xbox360 wireless adapter for pc, and a usbcable going to my monitor because its a hub too |
| 23:46.42 | dhask | pkekyo| make sure you keep them in a flat ribbon, not a bundle; ribbons don't interfere with each other as much |
| 23:46.50 | Arrowmaster | its a bitch to assemble and disassemble |
| 23:47.04 | Pkekyo| | dhask: too late x) |
| 23:47.38 | Pkekyo| | wireless keyboard + mouse is my savior<3 |
| 23:48.09 | Arrowmaster | i dont trust batteries |
| 23:48.52 | Arrowmaster | and my keyboard is backlit =D |
| 23:49.05 | Gnarfoz | wtb optimus maximus |
| 23:49.05 | Pkekyo| | actually only changed batteries in my keyboard twice in five years... |
| 23:49.10 | Pkekyo| | mouse is rechargable :) |
| 23:49.11 | Gnarfoz | no wait, wtwin, not wtb |
| 23:50.11 | dhask | my wireless mouse drops into a cradle to recharge |
| 23:50.26 | Bejitt- | Antiar1: /probe |
| 23:50.32 | Arrowmaster | you still have to plug it in though |
| 23:50.50 | Pkekyo| | plug in what? |
| 23:50.54 | Arrowmaster | the cradle |
| 23:51.11 | Pkekyo| | yeah, but with cables running to mouse and keyboard my life (and desk) would be hell:p |
| 23:52.09 | dhask | afk, buyin booze |
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| 23:52.32 | Pkekyo| | 'shaer!!!!111oneoneseveneleven' |
| 23:52.49 | Xinhuan | so to smelt 100 ore, the "Create All" button does it slower than spamming "Create", because of spellcasting queue. |
| 23:53.10 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 23:53.19 | Arrowmaster | but you can go afk! |
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| 23:53.26 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 23:53.46 | Xinhuan | i've just figured out a way to make an extra 50g |
| 23:53.55 | Xinhuan | out of all these 100s of stacks of ada ore i prospect everyday |
| 23:54.09 | Xinhuan | it involves smelting lots of fel iron ore purchased on the AH |
| 23:54.21 | Xinhuan | into bars, and using them to make rings to DE into dust |
| 23:54.29 | Xinhuan | to use up the green quality gems |
| 23:54.33 | Xinhuan | instead of vendoring them |
| 23:55.22 | Xinhuan | i have prospected 24134 times since patch 2.1 (when they changed the chance of blues) |
| 23:55.56 | Xinhuan | or about 124k ore, or about 6.2k stacks of them |
| 23:56.05 | sb | wtf? :) |
| 23:56.19 | sb | whats 1 stack in your AH? |
| 23:56.24 | Xinhuan | 20-25g |
| 23:56.31 | sb | and gem? |
| 23:56.35 | Xinhuan | the 80k gold i've made so far isn't fake :) |
| 23:58.41 | Ellipsis | no, but it is hax! :( |
| 23:58.45 | sb | well its 35g here :/ |
| 23:58.53 | sb | 1 stack |
