| 00:00.20 | Bejitt- | Xinhuan: what does dust have to do with the gems? |
| 00:00.36 | Ellipsis | green gems are vendor trash, but he's gonna jc them into rings to DE |
| 00:00.37 | Xinhuan | the Arcane Dust and Planar essences are worth like 3x as much |
| 00:00.47 | Xinhuan | so i get an extra 100g out of it |
| 00:00.53 | Bejitt- | ahhh |
| 00:00.55 | Xinhuan | just means i will get 800g per day instead of 700g |
| 00:01.31 | Xinhuan | the profits is merely the amount of time i spend to convert them or when the Ah runs dry of ore to buy |
| 00:01.58 | Xinhuan | each ring takes 20 seconds though |
| 00:02.00 | Xinhuan | so i'm getting bored |
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| 00:05.05 | Xinhuan | deep peridots and shit |
| 00:05.10 | Xinhuan | golden draenites |
| 00:08.07 | Xinhuan | the whole darn thing is so profitable i can just buy the raw gems off the AH and profit |
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| 00:13.03 | Erica | Anyone happen to know if there is really a taint problem in Pitbull or if there is another mod that's causing it? |
| 00:14.19 | Xinhuan | hard to say |
| 00:14.25 | Shirik | turn on your taint logs |
| 00:14.26 | Shirik | and find out |
| 00:14.43 | Xinhuan | taint logs aren't fullproof |
| 00:14.50 | sag_ich_nicht | *foolproof |
| 00:14.51 | Xinhuan | there are a few million taints that the taint log doesn't log at all |
| 00:14.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 00:15.06 | Shirik | there's only one way to find out whether or not it will catch it |
| 00:15.16 | Xinhuan | and these are taints caused by tainting non-global variables/functions |
| 00:15.36 | Xinhuan | if you taint say GameTooltip:OnEvent |
| 00:15.41 | Xinhuan | it won't record it |
| 00:15.44 | Xinhuan | because it isn't a global var |
| 00:16.30 | Erica | does taint really cause any problems? I'm trying to find a good unitframes |
| 00:16.39 | Shirik | er |
| 00:16.39 | Ellipsis | only if you get an action blocked message |
| 00:16.44 | Ellipsis | if not, don't even worry about it |
| 00:16.45 | Shirik | exactly |
| 00:16.52 | Xinhuan | it prevents petbars from appearing for most cases, and is problematic |
| 00:17.05 | Shirik | "for most cases" <-- I disagree with that statement |
| 00:17.09 | Xinhuan | for specific classes |
| 00:17.21 | Shirik | I guarantee I could cause more taints that don't affect the pet bar than I can that do :) |
| 00:17.46 | Erica | What unitframes would you guys recommend? |
| 00:17.51 | Shirik | blizzard |
| 00:18.19 | Bejitt- | kinda partial to Pitbull now |
| 00:18.24 | Erica | is there a mod for just the focus frame? thats all I"m really missing |
| 00:18.40 | Shirik | yes, though I forget the name |
| 00:19.14 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6463-FocusFrame.html |
| 00:19.20 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: so... you're buying all that ada ore off the AH, too? how does that net you any money? oO |
| 00:19.27 | Xinhuan | prospecting |
| 00:19.30 | Xinhuan | then cutting the gems, AH |
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| 00:20.13 | Erica | thanks for the help... off to see if I can find that focus frame mod |
| 00:20.18 | Shirik | I linked it |
| 00:20.19 | Gnarfoz | oO I should drop blacksmithing on my paladin and learn JC :< |
| 00:20.28 | Xinhuan | it is dependant on your server economy |
| 00:20.39 | Xinhuan | you will need to do some statistics and determine the profitability |
| 00:20.46 | Erica | kool :) |
| 00:21.02 | Xinhuan | the gem market on my server is so profitable is due to the fact that there are 52 raiding guilds |
| 00:21.07 | Xinhuan | 17 of which are in blacktemple |
| 00:21.20 | Gnarfoz | oh... hrm |
| 00:21.26 | Xinhuan | by raiding guild, i mean a guild that can kill magtheridon or better |
| 00:21.34 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I can kind of see that would be a flop here ^^ |
| 00:21.42 | Xinhuan | kara guilds aren't raiding guilds in my opinion ;p |
| 00:21.54 | Gnarfoz | my server even went from medium pop to low pop recently :< |
| 00:21.56 | Ellipsis | my guild's not a raiding guild? >_< |
| 00:23.16 | Gnarfoz | Antiar1: btw, 2.3.2 fixes Hemo (only Rank 4 is affected, it seems) being eaten up by spells if you haven't seen that yet |
| 00:25.05 | dylanm | Xinhuan: What server are you on? |
| 00:25.08 | Xinhuan | blackrock |
| 00:25.10 | Xinhuan | us |
| 00:25.13 | dylanm | Aha. |
| 00:25.17 | dylanm | Ally? |
| 00:25.20 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 00:25.21 | Xinhuan | BG9 |
| 00:25.23 | dylanm | Kill. |
| 00:25.38 | Gnarfoz | kind of one of the best populated ones, too |
| 00:25.56 | Bejitt- | didnt they make Mag ez-mode? |
| 00:26.07 | Bejitt- | dont get the debuff until he's banished |
| 00:26.10 | Xinhuan | he's bugged |
| 00:26.11 | Xinhuan | apaprently |
| 00:26.14 | Xinhuan | according to sag_ich_nicht |
| 00:26.18 | Bejitt- | hah |
| 00:26.22 | Xinhuan | but he didn't explain how |
| 00:26.24 | Xinhuan | when i asked |
| 00:26.26 | Bejitt- | glad i dont do him anymore |
| 00:26.44 | Bejitt- | rather, glad he's not doing me anymore |
| 00:27.08 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 00:27.10 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry i was buggy |
| 00:27.12 | sag_ich_nicht | mag isn't bugged |
| 00:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | but the cubes are still bugged |
| 00:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i clicked 6 times last try, and it bugged and wouldn't do ANYTHING, not even abort the click |
| 00:27.54 | Gnarfoz | did it... start the beam? |
| 00:27.55 | durcyn | sounds like a personal problem |
| 00:27.58 | Xinhuan | was it just you? |
| 00:27.59 | Xinhuan | or anyone |
| 00:28.00 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing |
| 00:28.02 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 00:28.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it happend to a few people |
| 00:28.07 | sag_ich_nicht | randomly |
| 00:28.13 | Gnarfoz | racist cubes |
| 00:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | he was at 5% when it happened, beat him down to 1% then died :( |
| 00:28.50 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:28.53 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 00:29.01 | Xinhuan | do other people report the same bug? |
| 00:29.03 | Xinhuan | other servers |
| 00:29.04 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 00:29.11 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 00:29.28 | sag_ich_nicht | one mage i know told me it bugged on them a few days ago |
| 00:32.32 | Xinhuan | wonder if blizz tests their changes |
| 00:32.45 | Gnarfoz | never |
| 00:32.49 | Gnarfoz | what a waste of time |
| 00:32.50 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 00:50.14 | Pkekyo| | it's not patchday or something today? |
| 00:50.32 | Primer | Hi, I know this is a bit offtopic, but: Can someone recommend a php nuke module for raid calendars? |
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| 00:58.05 | Poul|Raider | I have a function that generate a table with some info and some functions. like func() tbl.test = "string"; tbl:lol() print("lol") end; return tbl; end. Then im adding a destroy function to clean up etc. tbl.destroy() tbl = nil; end. i know syntax is off but question remain, should i also make the sub functions nil like tbl.lol = nil ? or dont it mean anything as it cant be accesed anyway becausel tbl is nil? |
| 00:59.16 | Xinhuan | you shouldn't be doing that at all |
| 00:59.24 | Xinhuan | i.e don't create tables |
| 00:59.36 | Ellipsis | tbl.destroy()?! |
| 00:59.57 | Xinhuan | what you should do is make ONE table, call it "tbl" and make it local to file scope |
| 01:00.03 | Xinhuan | then keep using this ONE table over and over again |
| 01:00.10 | Xinhuan | nothing is created or destroyed |
| 01:02.29 | Poul|Raider | well if you got a table lol, setting lol = nil, is that equal to setting all values to nil or will they just be there someplace in memory until GC take care of em? |
| 01:02.56 | Xinhuan | it removes the reference to that table when you set lol to nil |
| 01:02.56 | Pkekyo| | is there anywhere I can move where there's more than 24hrs/day? |
| 01:03.02 | Xinhuan | if the number of references to that table becomes 0 |
| 01:03.08 | Xinhuan | then the whole table is marked for garbage collection |
| 01:03.12 | Xinhuan | and will be collected on the next GC cycle |
| 01:03.18 | Poul|Raider | oki |
| 01:03.42 | Xinhuan | but generally speaking, unless you need a dynamic number of tables |
| 01:03.49 | Shirik | Pkekyo|: In theory, by moving in the opposite direction of the spin of the globe |
| 01:03.51 | Xinhuan | you should just use a single static one, which you reuse over and over |
| 01:03.56 | Shirik | or by spinning counter clockwise |
| 01:04.10 | Shirik | you will slow time (or slow the spin of the earth, respectively) |
| 01:04.19 | Shirik | thus allowing you slightly more time per day |
| 01:04.30 | Shirik | though you'd have to approach the speed of light |
| 01:04.40 | Xinhuan | haha yes, that's the comic in one of the xckd |
| 01:04.53 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, what if the content of the table change alot, instead of the table getting bigger and bigger, would it not just be better to make a new table and then let hte GC take the old one? |
| 01:05.07 | Xinhuan | depends on what you do with that table |
| 01:05.14 | Xinhuan | and what type of table it is |
| 01:05.39 | Poul|Raider | jep, think i know what your point is |
| 01:05.47 | Poul|Raider | but hmm |
| 01:05.53 | Xinhuan | if your table has say 10 keys you know you will use, you just reuse those 10 keys over and over |
| 01:05.56 | Poul|Raider | easyer just to make a new table :D |
| 01:06.02 | silentium | just move to the north or south pole, a day lasts half a year there ;) |
| 01:06.39 | Xinhuan | but if its a numeric indexed table, you can also reuse it |
| 01:06.39 | Xinhuan | if it isn't too large, say about 100 items or less |
| 01:06.39 | Xinhuan | by nil-ing each entry |
| 01:06.39 | Poul|Raider | ye but then you have to loop over it and make all values nil before reuseing it should you not? |
| 01:06.39 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 01:06.39 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 01:06.39 | Xinhuan | if you need to, yes |
| 01:06.48 | Xinhuan | a loop |
| 01:06.54 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 01:07.03 | dhask | xinhuan, you're lucky |
| 01:07.06 | Xinhuan | for i = #tbl, 1, -1 do tbl[i] = nil end |
| 01:07.13 | Xinhuan | that does it backwards |
| 01:07.15 | dhask | on my server, cut gems are usually listed on the AH for *less than* the equivalent uncut gem |
| 01:07.32 | Xinhuan | hah dhask, it sometimes occurs here too |
| 01:07.39 | Ellipsis | even the blue gems? |
| 01:07.42 | Ellipsis | WTB x.x |
| 01:07.43 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 01:07.53 | Xinhuan | i would just sell whichever version is worth more |
| 01:07.56 | Xinhuan | cut or uncut |
| 01:07.59 | Xinhuan | not a big deal |
| 01:08.18 | Poul|Raider | i actuly did that in some of my code, where i had a table controling a menu. where i first had a function that returned a new table generated each time it was changed, which i then changed into useing the same table and just empty it before reuseing, so not totaly lost :D |
| 01:08.43 | dhask | ellipsis, the uncommon gems vendor for more than they ah |
| 01:08.47 | Xinhuan | you should avoid using a new table generally |
| 01:08.53 | Xinhuan | unless its necessary |
| 01:09.54 | Poul|Raider | i can see why, but im also thinking, how much does it realy means in a game like wow. if the GC just cleans up once a while, not like you will run out of memory? |
| 01:10.16 | Xinhuan | if you have less garbage generated, GC runs less often |
| 01:10.29 | Poul|Raider | oki |
| 01:10.46 | Xinhuan | but don't overdo it |
| 01:10.54 | Poul|Raider | naa |
| 01:11.02 | Xinhuan | if you have a table with 5000 entries and you spend a lot of time nil-ing it |
| 01:11.09 | Xinhuan | its not really worht it over just generating a new table |
| 01:11.17 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: not entirely true at all |
| 01:11.24 | cladhaire | but i'll forgive the semantic inaccuracies :P |
| 01:11.28 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 01:11.35 | Poul|Raider | what about the metatable stuff, is that a new table or is it reuseing the oldone in some way, thinking of the tbl.__index thing that need to be set? |
| 01:11.43 | Xinhuan | it really depends on the table's purpose/usage |
| 01:11.50 | Xinhuan | so its on a case-by-case basis |
| 01:12.11 | Xinhuan | a metatable is just another table |
| 01:12.17 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 01:13.45 | Xinhuan | so iv'e spent some 1-2 hours now, and i haven't finished converting all these green quality gems into rings |
| 01:14.04 | dhask | ya, I can spend 45min and make 100g doing dailies |
| 01:14.16 | Xinhuan | got about 500g worth of dust and essences in my bags now |
| 01:14.18 | dhask | so I'd call 2hrs or so converting uncommon gems into 100g a waste of time |
| 01:14.22 | Xinhuan | from just 100g worth of raw mats |
| 01:14.32 | Xinhuan | so +400g from about 1 hour++ so far |
| 01:14.33 | dhask | k |
| 01:14.38 | dhask | server transfer and give me some cash |
| 01:14.41 | dhask | ;) |
| 01:14.49 | dhask | I could use a set of spellstrike |
| 01:15.21 | Xinhuan | does auctioneer have any ability to auto-split stacks to put on AH? |
| 01:15.22 | Ellipsis | you can't transfer that much gold |
| 01:15.30 | Xinhuan | like put up 100 stacks of 1 dust at 1.5g each |
| 01:15.46 | Xinhuan | or do i have to manual split them |
| 01:15.52 | Ellipsis | it can do the splitting for you |
| 01:15.59 | Ellipsis | it has two text fields |
| 01:16.03 | Ellipsis | like # x # stacks |
| 01:16.21 | Xinhuan | excellent |
| 01:17.51 | Xinhuan | i knew you could specify # x # |
| 01:17.57 | Xinhuan | but not sure if it would auto-split stacks up for you |
| 01:18.02 | Ellipsis | yeah, it does |
| 01:18.05 | Poul|Raider | another of my good questions :DD is there any reason thinking of performens why addons have things stored in locals and then have a function to get the stuff instead of just have it in one big global table and then if someone need something from the addon he can just find it in the tbl? |
| 01:18.13 | Ellipsis | pretty handy actually |
| 01:18.51 | Xinhuan | a function call is more expensive than a table lookup i think |
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| 01:19.17 | dhask | paul|raider, a global variable access is slower than a local variable access |
| 01:19.25 | Poul|Raider | or if i had split a addon in 2 files, one for handling something and another to handle something els. then make a GetID() to get a id that i could just have made the var global and then asked for the variable isntead of a function that returns the variable |
| 01:19.33 | Poul|Raider | oki dhask |
| 01:19.53 | dhask | paul|raider, accessor methods (ie, hiding variables behind functions) allows the developer to change the variables later if needed without breaking users of the code |
| 01:19.57 | Xinhuan | a global var access (say to variable "lol")is the same as looking up _G["lol"] |
| 01:20.04 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, not thinking of looping over the table. in that case the function to return it would have to do the same thing |
| 01:20.07 | Xinhuan | so its a table lookup |
| 01:20.12 | Poul|Raider | ahh |
| 01:20.20 | dhask | lua> getmetatable(_G) |
| 01:20.20 | lua_bot | dhask: nil, |
| 01:20.24 | dhask | oh hey, how about that |
| 01:20.28 | dhask | I thought it had a meta table |
| 01:20.29 | Xinhuan | other tan the fact that you also have to lookup _G itself as well |
| 01:20.45 | Xinhuan | lua> assert(_G._G == _G) |
| 01:20.45 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true, |
| 01:20.52 | dhask | xinhuan, I've often wondered about that, where do you look up _G from? |
| 01:21.09 | Xinhuan | _G is just a global variable that refers to itself |
| 01:21.20 | dhask | yes, but to get a global variable, first you find _G, then you find the variable in _G |
| 01:21.32 | Xinhuan | _G is a reference to the global environment |
| 01:21.36 | dhask | but to find _G, you need to find _G, and funnies ensues |
| 01:21.42 | Xinhuan | yes, its a special thing |
| 01:21.43 | dhask | so _G is a reference to a static location? |
| 01:21.50 | Xinhuan | yes and no |
| 01:22.22 | Xinhuan | but you can assume yes generally |
| 01:22.34 | Xinhuan | _G is indeed a reference to a static location |
| 01:22.59 | Xinhuan | that static location can be changed by using setfenv() |
| 01:23.22 | Xinhuan | and retrieved using getfenv() |
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| 01:23.50 | dhask | I liked it better when I was ignorant and just used and re-used tables aimlessly |
| 01:24.05 | dhask | heh, funny thing, I'm workin on a new addon that needs to get UTC time stamps |
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| 01:24.14 | dhask | unfortunately, WoW's date() function is busted |
| 01:24.17 | Xinhuan | so although "local _G = _G" is commonly used code to get a local access to _G |
| 01:24.21 | dhask | lua> date('%s') |
| 01:24.21 | lua_bot | dhask: 1195781061, |
| 01:24.26 | dhask | lua> date('*%s') |
| 01:24.26 | lua_bot | dhask: *1195781066, |
| 01:24.30 | Xinhuan | "local _G = getfenv(0)" is more accurate |
| 01:24.32 | dhask | that second one gives an error in WoW |
| 01:24.36 | dhask | huh |
| 01:24.39 | dhask | lua> date('!%s') |
| 01:24.39 | lua_bot | dhask: 1195799079, |
| 01:24.42 | dhask | there we go |
| 01:24.42 | Poul|Raider | lets say the root part of my addon is a table Raider. And i then have another file containing alle the code for a mainwindow for configuration. I should then make the window local and declare functions etc to open the window. and then bind the function to Raider.OpenWindow = function() MainWindow:Open() end; instead of just bind the hole window data to Raider, Raider.MainWindow = MainWindow etc(Raider.MainWindow:Open()) |
| 01:24.57 | dhask | so I have to do: |
| 01:25.00 | dhask | lua> date('!*t') |
| 01:25.01 | lua_bot | dhask: { ["hour"] = 1, ["min"] = 25, ["wday"] = 6, ["day"] = 23, ["month"] = 11, ["year"] = 2007, ["sec"] = 0, ["yday"] = 327, ["isdst"] = false } (#1), |
| 01:25.07 | dhask | then build YYYYMMDDHHMMSS |
| 01:25.10 | dhask | and use that |
| 01:25.16 | dhask | but that uses a table |
| 01:25.29 | dhask | so it's really not wise, in an OnUpdate, to do that |
| 01:25.46 | dhask | my early dev phase addon, doing very little at the time, grew to about 10mb memory footprint |
| 01:25.48 | Xinhuan | Poul|Raider, up to you |
| 01:25.54 | Pkekyo| | what's the english term for fucking up stuff (like throwing graffiti pieces on buildings etc) |
| 01:26.08 | dhask | vandalism |
| 01:26.08 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|: Vandalism |
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| 01:26.24 | dhask | paul|raider, I would do that, yes |
| 01:26.25 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, ye everything is :) but just wondering if it means anything for performens or anyreason to use one way over the other? |
| 01:26.26 | Pkekyo| | that's what I was looking for! thanks! |
| 01:26.34 | dhask | er, |
| 01:26.37 | dhask | poul, not paul |
| 01:26.38 | dhask | heh |
| 01:26.42 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 01:26.59 | Xinhuan | encapsulating all your functions into the Raider[] table is good |
| 01:27.04 | dhask | poul|raider, the main reason for it is so that you could change the frame variable and only need to change the one LUA source file |
| 01:27.04 | krka | dhask: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 01:27.14 | dhask | poul|raider, instead of changing everything else |
| 01:27.19 | Xinhuan | from your other file, you can always do "local Raider = Raider" |
| 01:27.29 | dhask | krka, LOTS UF AWSEMNESS |
| 01:27.31 | dhask | it is too |
| 01:27.33 | Xinhuan | and you will have a local var pointing to that table |
| 01:27.39 | Xinhuan | so its just as fast |
| 01:28.02 | Xinhuan | but if you're going to do |
| 01:28.03 | Xinhuan | Raider.OpenWindow = function() MainWindow:Open() |
| 01:28.05 | dhask | poul|raider, encapsulaton and data hiding are software maintainability tricks |
| 01:28.17 | Xinhuan | you could just call MainWindow:Open() directly |
| 01:28.23 | Xinhuan | if you get a reference to MainWindow |
| 01:28.37 | Xinhuan | but yes, it works |
| 01:28.39 | dhask | three or six months down the track when you're adding the thirtieth unforeseen feature, and you now need to put your raider window in as a tab of another window, you'll be *really* grateful that you only have to change one place |
| 01:28.39 | Poul|Raider | ye i figured but i was just not sure so i did write something i was sure worked .D |
| 01:29.07 | dhask | krka, (ok, point taken, Lua it is. ;) |
| 01:30.00 | Poul|Raider | why would i do local Raider = Raider Xinhuan ? |
| 01:30.12 | Poul|Raider | wont save me anything to type? |
| 01:30.19 | Xinhuan | is Raider a global var? |
| 01:30.24 | dhask | holy shit |
| 01:30.26 | Poul|Raider | in this case ye |
| 01:30.31 | Xinhuan | that the other file is going to use |
| 01:30.32 | dhask | "Currently, withdrawal limits are not reset when a character joins a new guild." |
| 01:30.37 | Xinhuan | if so, then local Raider = Raider |
| 01:30.48 | Xinhuan | would make a local variable containing a reference to that table |
| 01:31.00 | Poul|Raider | but would i gain anyhting from that? |
| 01:31.03 | Xinhuan | so when you do Raider.blah() |
| 01:31.06 | dhask | performance improvements |
| 01:31.12 | Xinhuan | it doesn't have to look up Raider in the global table |
| 01:31.18 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 01:31.20 | Xinhuan | because the local reference is there |
| 01:31.28 | Poul|Raider | ahh |
| 01:31.32 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 01:32.36 | Poul|Raider | even if im just to store a single Raider.OpenWindow function in Raider, it would still pay out to make a local refference to it? |
| 01:33.00 | Xinhuan | depends if you're going to use the variable "Raider" a lot? |
| 01:33.39 | Poul|Raider | well in this case its a mainwindow and its not gonna use Raider for anything, just gonna store a function to open the window in Raider |
| 01:33.56 | Xinhuan | then don't bother |
| 01:34.42 | Poul|Raider | How many calls are we talking about to Raider before i should bother to do the local reference, not like it would take long to type local Raider = Raider in the top of the file D |
| 01:35.29 | Xinhuan | well, you're talking about using 4 bytes of memory to store a table reference (and an assignment statement) vs looking up Raider in _G everytime you use it |
| 01:35.32 | Xinhuan | go figure |
| 01:36.01 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 01:37.58 | Pkekyo| | anyone know any euphonisms for Graffiti? (ie. someone call it art, some call it vandalism, and someone call it youth culture...) |
| 01:38.14 | Poul|Raider | you know, not all of us is as smart as you and know such things :) but appreciate your answers :) |
| 01:38.42 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|: www.thesaurus.com |
| 01:38.43 | dhask | pkekyo|, tagging? |
| 01:39.10 | Pkekyo| | dhask: true, but not exactly what I'm after...trying to communicate different views on graffiti and what graffiti is |
| 01:40.38 | dhask | hmm, wonder what the earliest level is I can get a helm with a meta socket |
| 01:41.08 | dhask | wow, no level requirements on the engineering goggles |
| 01:41.09 | Pkekyo| | 70-ish would prolly be a correct guess |
| 01:41.12 | dhask | ... you just need nethers |
| 01:41.32 | dhask | level 66 is the earliest |
| 01:41.39 | Xinhuan | actually dhask, there is an implcit lvl requirement |
| 01:41.44 | Pkekyo| | you can do heroics at lvl 66? |
| 01:42.01 | Xinhuan | of lvl requiring lvl 50 to learn 375 engineering? |
| 01:42.06 | dhask | my huntard is level 62 |
| 01:42.06 | Xinhuan | or is it 60 |
| 01:42.10 | dhask | I want to tame the ghost wolf |
| 01:42.18 | dhask | I need a mystic skyfire diamond to do that |
| 01:42.32 | dhask | frown, could get run through SV for the quest there |
| 01:42.47 | dhask | I *think* I could zone in |
| 01:43.13 | silentium | dhask: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=sl=1;maxrl=69;cr=80;crs=1;crv=0 lists some helms that require lvl 66 |
| 01:43.26 | dhask | level 67 quest |
| 01:43.40 | dhask | silentium, yeah, I think getting spirit shards and buying the helm from terokkar's y best bet |
| 01:43.47 | Xinhuan | you need honored rep to do heroics |
| 01:43.51 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 01:44.24 | Xinhuan | however i'm not sure if there's a lvl req to even zone into heroics |
| 01:44.26 | Xinhuan | before 70 |
| 01:44.27 | dhask | I can definitely do mana tombs |
| 01:44.31 | dhask | for spirit shards |
| 01:44.54 | dhask | but I'd have to level to 66 |
| 01:45.15 | dhask | four or five mtombs runs would get the shards |
| 01:45.16 | dhask | hmm |
| 01:45.17 | dhask | oh well |
| 01:45.39 | dhask | afk, gotta prep lunch at the office |
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| 01:58.51 | Wobin | hehe |
| 01:58.53 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:59.18 | Wobin | does the cast time reduction for skyfire affect shot speed? |
| 01:59.26 | Jaxon | Yes |
| 01:59.39 | Jaxon | But compared to Relentless Earthstorm Diamond, it shouldn't be in any hunter's meta slot |
| 02:01.00 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, ok im came to think of it. I do i have some idea of what 4bytes is in terms of memory. But when i compaire that to look up in _G im just not sure what it cost to do that lookup? |
| 02:01.23 | Xinhuan | it costs a few clock cycles of time. |
| 02:01.46 | Xinhuan | i.e speed vs memory |
| 02:01.52 | Poul|Raider | so at the cost of a few bytes i get more speed |
| 02:01.54 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 02:02.52 | Poul|Raider | what do peolpe hate most, something useing alot of memory or something slow .DDD |
| 02:03.13 | Jaxon | If it works, snappy, most won't think to look at memory usage until there is a problem. |
| 02:03.17 | Poul|Raider | and for my small addons thing im doing for the fun of it, it properly dont mean shit anyway :D |
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| 02:08.44 | Poul|Raider | here is one more :) i see in some addons the auther first declare a function local and then add it to the global tbl after. Is there any reason not just to Raider:AddMenuEntry(var) --[[Raider beeing the global tbl again]] instead of making local function addmenuentry(self,var) ... ; Raider.AddMenuEntry = addmenuentry |
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| 02:09.13 | Xinhuan | local calls within filescope |
| 02:09.21 | Xinhuan | then add it to global table for global access by other addons |
| 02:09.51 | Poul|Raider | so if i added it to the global right away, then if i use it in the same file again it will look it up in global instead? |
| 02:10.12 | Xinhuan | yes, unless you make a local reference |
| 02:10.15 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 02:10.20 | Poul|Raider | oki, makes sence |
| 02:10.32 | Xinhuan | hi Arrowmaster :) |
| 02:10.53 | Poul|Raider | and if i dont need the function used within filescope i can just declare it right away to the global var |
| 02:11.20 | Xinhuan | a function doesn't need to be global if you don't ever intend it to be used outside your file |
| 02:11.48 | Poul|Raider | i should get ECTS points here, im actuly learning something :D |
| 02:12.07 | Poul|Raider | well the point was that i needed it out side the file |
| 02:12.30 | Poul|Raider | was just thinking if it did mean any diff if i decared it local first before making it global |
| 02:12.32 | Poul|Raider | and it did |
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| 02:21.04 | Diao | holy crap |
| 02:21.13 | Diao | my priest alt with 0 resil just got crit shadowstep ambush by a rogue for 4k |
| 02:21.15 | Diao | :( |
| 02:21.21 | Diao | he was using a blue dagger too |
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| 02:41.58 | grennon | i cant help but notice that if i take durabilitystatus by derkyle and ace port it, and remove the semi-colons, it looks a lot like durabilityFU |
| 02:42.12 | grennon | but i dont see anywhere in durabilityFU where its credited |
| 02:43.59 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, click = Raider.MWOpen(cmdTable.id) should be the same as click = function() ... end; given that Raider.MWOpen() is a function? |
| 02:44.57 | Xinhuan | Raider.MWOpen() actually calls that function and returns a value |
| 02:45.10 | Xinhuan | click = function() ... end; merely assigns a function you created right there - a memory address |
| 02:45.12 | Wobin | Diao: That 0 resilience may have something to do with it =P |
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| 02:49.17 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, i dint understand it :) atleast it work if i do function() .. end instead of just = Raider.MWOpen() |
| 02:49.35 | Xinhuan | = Raider.MWOpen() |
| 02:49.37 | Xinhuan | is not the same as |
| 02:49.38 | Xinhuan | = Raider.MWOpen |
| 02:49.44 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 02:49.55 | Poul|Raider | ye remmember that now |
| 02:49.58 | Xinhuan | the first one CALLS and RUNS the function, to get a return value |
| 02:50.06 | Poul|Raider | ye by bad |
| 02:50.18 | Xinhuan | the other assigns the function on the right to the left, a memeory address reference |
| 02:50.38 | starlon_ | ls |
| 02:50.48 | Kemayo | grennon: That's because DurabilityFu came first. |
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| 02:51.27 | Poul|Raider | ye, i need to do function() ... end as im parsing a variable to the function MWOpen(local var) |
| 02:51.44 | Kemayo | grennon: Note the stated reson DurabilityStatus was made: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5015 |
| 02:51.49 | Xuerian | Are there any boss mods that help with Shartuul? |
| 02:51.55 | Xinhuan | function() ... end |
| 02:51.58 | Xinhuan | isn't a function call |
| 02:52.22 | Xinhuan | what that does is it creates and compiles that function. |
| 02:52.52 | Xinhuan | abc = function(a) return a; end |
| 02:52.57 | Xinhuan | is exactly the same as writing |
| 02:53.03 | Xinhuan | function abc(a) return a; end |
| 02:53.32 | Xinhuan | all it does is create a function - it doesn't run it |
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| 02:55.07 | Kemayo | I miss the good old days when we just said "PIL" to all these questions. |
| 02:55.31 | hyperChipmunk | don't we? |
| 02:55.51 | Kemayo | Well, I guess it's all these darn newbies like Xinhuan. |
| 02:56.00 | Xinhuan | (i'm still creating rings out of green quality gems) |
| 02:56.22 | hyperChipmunk | I still direct at least one person a day to the PIL |
| 02:57.21 | grennon | Kemayo: AHHHHHH |
| 02:57.21 | Xinhuan | so hyperChipmunk, if an addon on wowace causes combat taint, and doesn't have an active author, what should we do? |
| 02:57.43 | hyperChipmunk | is that bad? |
| 02:57.53 | Xinhuan | could be |
| 02:57.59 | grennon | Kemayo: and not im making a standalone like durabilitystatus but using abacus/crayon/tablet, so the circle is complete |
| 02:58.07 | hyperChipmunk | then fix it and commit |
| 02:58.09 | grennon | /s/not/now/ |
| 02:58.23 | Xinhuan | Fubar_MCPFu hooks and replaces LoadAddOn() - that causes taint |
| 02:58.39 | hyperChipmunk | addon's doing no good if it's broken |
| 02:59.52 | Xinhuan | i'm asking if anyone should be fixing it, or delete from svn if its broken |
| 03:01.04 | durcyn | just change the toc version to something < 20000 ;) |
| 03:01.22 | Xinhuan | that doesn't quite work, since the last 4 commits to it were TOC bumps |
| 03:01.54 | CIA-8 | 03perunaion * r55740 10ForceEnchant/: |
| 03:01.54 | CIA-8 | ForceEnchant: |
| 03:01.54 | CIA-8 | Initial import. |
| 03:02.02 | Ellipsis | actually the addon works just fine in 99% of cases |
| 03:02.22 | Ellipsis | the taint only causes problems if you are in combat when you first load one of the LoD Blizz addons |
| 03:02.55 | Xinhuan | you mean, any lod addon that uses the blizzard uipanel to display frames. |
| 03:03.04 | Xinhuan | not necessary just blizzard's |
| 03:03.36 | Ellipsis | erm, well anything that loads from a UIPanel call... |
| 03:03.43 | Ellipsis | which is only Blizz addons unless I'm missing something? |
| 03:04.34 | Xinhuan | not entirely certain |
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| 03:05.04 | Xinhuan | but it will always break if you try to open your talent pane |
| 03:05.14 | Xinhuan | since it always calls LoadAddOn, whether it is loaded or not |
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| 03:05.31 | Ellipsis | eh, well, it goes to show how long it took me to actually notice it |
| 03:05.33 | Xinhuan | it doesn't check to see if its already loaded, it just loads it |
| 03:05.39 | Ellipsis | most people don't open their talent panes in combat |
| 03:06.08 | Xinhuan | taint can spread though |
| 03:06.20 | Xinhuan | say you go to the AH, and you load blizzard AH addon |
| 03:06.39 | Xinhuan | because execution gets tainted, a number of blizzard globals can get tainted in the process |
| 03:06.54 | Xinhuan | and you get blocked when you next go to combat |
| 03:06.58 | Ellipsis | but what I'm saying is I've been running that addon on all chars all this time |
| 03:07.08 | Ellipsis | and it wasn't until I played this alt that I had any problems because of it |
| 03:07.26 | Ellipsis | and that's only 'cause I was looking at talents in combat o.O |
| 03:07.29 | Xinhuan | probably because you don't actually use the addon ;p |
| 03:07.33 | Ellipsis | uh... |
| 03:07.44 | Ellipsis | the addon is enabled (and therefore hooking loadaddon) |
| 03:07.49 | Xinhuan | tell me, how often do you actually use it to load an LoD addon? |
| 03:08.12 | Ellipsis | I don't usually use it to load LoD stuff since there's very few non-lib LoD things |
| 03:08.15 | Zhinjio | Happy Thanksgiving, for those who celebrate it... |
| 03:08.27 | Xinhuan | then... why use it? |
| 03:08.29 | Ellipsis | look, the fix for the taint problem is literally a matter of deleting the functions entirely |
| 03:08.37 | Ellipsis | I use it to enable/disable addons without having to /rl |
| 03:08.44 | Ellipsis | and yes I know I can do that with /ace load |
| 03:08.48 | Ellipsis | or /ace enable tc. |
| 03:08.51 | Ellipsis | etc.* |
| 03:09.03 | Ellipsis | but I don't like that because it doesn't give me visual feedback :P |
| 03:09.05 | Xinhuan | you can't unload an addon |
| 03:09.09 | CIA-8 | 03chuanhsing * r55741 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 03:09.13 | Xinhuan | so i don't get what you mean by "not having to /rl" |
| 03:09.16 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 03:09.20 | Ellipsis | I mean without having to relog |
| 03:10.37 | Shirik | you cannot unload an addon |
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| 03:10.42 | Shirik | without relogging |
| 03:11.01 | Shirik | you can effectively "disable" it, which merely tells it to stop doing anything, but any addon can do that |
| 03:11.06 | Ellipsis | disable + /rl |
| 03:11.18 | Ellipsis | I don't have to actually go back to the character screen, which is annoying |
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| 03:11.45 | Shirik | let me spell it out a bit more clearly |
| 03:12.05 | Shirik | Ace does not give addons anything more than they can do already. Perhaps it's a bit easier to implement with Ace, but it's not anything another addon can't do without Ace. |
| 03:12.12 | Ellipsis | dude, I'm not talking about Ace at all |
| 03:12.18 | Shirik | Does Ace standardize stuff, probably |
| 03:12.34 | Ellipsis | I mean actually *enabling* and *disabling* addons as far as Blizz is concerned |
| 03:12.34 | Elgrim | Anyone remember that littel adon that adds a Class Icon on the unitframe is called? |
| 03:12.42 | Elgrim | Used to have that back in the standard ui days. |
| 03:12.44 | Shirik | hm, I misread one of your earlier lines |
| 03:12.51 | Arrowmaster | afaik if LoadAddOn is tainted every bliz lod addon gets tainted nomatter what when its loaded, combat or not |
| 03:13.07 | Arrowmaster | which is why tainting LoadAddOn is a very very big no no |
| 03:13.08 | Ellipsis | no, the addons loaded with it don't get tainted |
| 03:13.55 | Ellipsis | the reason the taint caused issues was because attempting to open the talent pane calls LoadAddOn and then goes on to do frame positioning stuff |
| 03:14.22 | Shirik | that shouldn't be an issue, really |
| 03:14.28 | Arrowmaster | the raid stuff gets completely fucked over if you taint LoadAddOn |
| 03:14.32 | Shirik | LoadAddOn doesn't return anything |
| 03:14.33 | Ellipsis | it doesn't for me |
| 03:14.52 | Xinhuan | are you sure an a blizzard addon loaded with a tainted LoadAddOn completely becomes tainted? |
| 03:15.01 | Arrowmaster | you can goto raid on your social panel and see your raid while in combat? |
| 03:15.09 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 03:15.10 | CIA-8 | 03scorpion * r55743 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-zhTW.lua: |
| 03:15.10 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 03:15.10 | CIA-8 | - zhTW updated |
| 03:15.11 | Arrowmaster | im like 99.9% sure |
| 03:15.22 | Ellipsis | I don't raid regularly but next time I'm in one I will doublecheck |
| 03:15.26 | Arrowmaster | no matter what reguardless of combat status |
| 03:16.05 | Arrowmaster | if the raidui gets tainted then you cant see your raid in the social frame, which means if your the leader or assist you cant move people around in combat |
| 03:16.36 | Ellipsis | well, as I said, I have never seen any issues despite the fact that this taint has been in my UI for months |
| 03:17.02 | Shirik | imho you should not be able to move people in combat anyway |
| 03:17.05 | Shirik | but that's just my opinion |
| 03:17.20 | Ellipsis | admittedly I don't lead/assist raids, and I don't often open my raid pane while in combat |
| 03:17.39 | Arrowmaster | trust me, tainting LoadAddOn is something that shouldnt be done so go ahead and fix the addon and commit it |
| 03:17.52 | Ellipsis | I fixed my copy |
| 03:18.00 | Arrowmaster | plus i bet it was rophy's addon right? |
| 03:18.15 | Ellipsis | it was based on rophy's, IIRC |
| 03:18.18 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 03:18.40 | Ellipsis | ## Author: Schelli (Copy of original MCP for fubar) |
| 03:18.41 | Arrowmaster | because if hes inactive then that means i can move my speedfu branch to trunk =D |
| 03:19.00 | Arrowmaster | well once i update it again that is |
| 03:19.14 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, if an addon is disabled in login screen, but LoDable, does LoadAddOn() load it? |
| 03:19.29 | Xinhuan | or do you need to call a function to enable it first, then load it |
| 03:19.34 | Arrowmaster | yes if you call EnableAddOn() on it first |
| 03:19.48 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: Rophy commited something to speedfu earlier this month, so he's sadly active. |
| 03:19.54 | Arrowmaster | damnit |
| 03:20.04 | Xinhuan | hah, whats wrong with his speedfu? |
| 03:20.34 | Pkekyo| | g'nite all |
| 03:20.38 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 03:20.41 | Arrowmaster | afk |
| 03:20.52 | Xinhuan | whats different with the branches one then? |
| 03:21.22 | Kemayo | Looks like it uses Tourist for the zone data. |
| 03:21.43 | Xinhuan | note, i'm curious because i use speedfu myself |
| 03:22.00 | Kemayo | It looks like a worthwhile change. |
| 03:22.30 | Kemayo | Mainly because I've noticed SpeedFu to be very slow to update to reflect new zone stuff. |
| 03:22.54 | Xinhuan | maybe its because blizzard only adds new zones like once per expansion? ;p |
| 03:23.11 | Ellipsis | what does SpeedFu do? |
| 03:23.40 | Xinhuan | it tells you what % speed you are travelling at, relative to running speed (100%) |
| 03:23.42 | Kemayo | It shows you what speed you're travelling at, as a percentage of your run speed. |
| 03:23.53 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 03:23.55 | Xinhuan | so if you're mounted and running, it says 200% |
| 03:23.56 | Ellipsis | is that useful? |
| 03:24.03 | Xinhuan | if you have a riding crop, it says 220% |
| 03:24.12 | Xinhuan | if you're flying mounted 380% |
| 03:24.19 | Xinhuan | 418% with a crop |
| 03:24.22 | Xinhuan | , etc |
| 03:24.26 | Ellipsis | and why does it need to be aware of zones? o.O |
| 03:24.29 | ulic | useful if you want to see if your trinkets/buffs are working |
| 03:24.32 | Xinhuan | basically its a means to see how your +riding effects stack |
| 03:24.41 | Xinhuan | and a means to see how fast the blizzard flight paths are |
| 03:24.59 | Xinhuan | and also if it says 380%, you know you are flying level or parallel to the floor at max speed |
| 03:25.01 | ulic | Ellipsis: because different zones are different sizes. |
| 03:25.05 | Ellipsis | eh, sounds like kind of a novelty thing |
| 03:25.07 | Kemayo | Ellipsis: Because it has to measure how far you're moving per tick. |
| 03:25.15 | Ellipsis | oh, it's an actual measurement? |
| 03:25.17 | ulic | coordinates are always 0-100 but all zones aren't the same size. |
| 03:25.19 | Xinhuan | if it says somethinglike 370%, then, you know you are flying at an angle, not parrallel to the floor |
| 03:25.24 | Ellipsis | not just a calculation based on what it thinks you're using? |
| 03:25.35 | Xinhuan | it retrieves your map coordinate, X,Y |
| 03:25.44 | Xinhuan | and compares it with the prev values |
| 03:25.45 | Kemayo | All it can see is how your coords are changing, and they map to yards differently in different zones. |
| 03:25.48 | Ellipsis | that's kinda neat |
| 03:25.52 | Xinhuan | so you have "distance moved" since last update |
| 03:25.56 | Xinhuan | then it calcs a % |
| 03:25.58 | Zhinjio | with crusader aura and epic flying mount, 456% (faster than most flight paths) |
| 03:26.07 | Ellipsis | still can't see it being terribly useful though o.O |
| 03:26.15 | Xinhuan | so i use it all the time to make sure i'm flying "level" to the floor |
| 03:26.20 | Xinhuan | which is 380% |
| 03:26.22 | Ellipsis | pitchfu ftw? >_> |
| 03:26.31 | Aeyan | It's not =P |
| 03:26.35 | Xinhuan | you know pitchfu uses the same technique right? ;p |
| 03:26.41 | Ellipsis | no it doesn't |
| 03:26.42 | Aeyan | But then... I've used Rawr for months and months |
| 03:26.44 | Ellipsis | or at least it didn't last I checked |
| 03:26.57 | Ellipsis | it measured camera angle rather than movement angle |
| 03:27.07 | Xinhuan | well you want to use movement angle, not camera angle |
| 03:27.07 | kenlyric | I love the change to water. |
| 03:27.16 | kenlyric | how you can't dive under it on a flying mount. |
| 03:27.21 | Ellipsis | camera angle is sufficient to get your angle set |
| 03:27.26 | kenlyric | makes hunting for fishing pools a lot easier. |
| 03:27.30 | Ellipsis | and it's more accurate and much easier to calculate |
| 03:27.30 | Diao | what if you use left mouse to look around |
| 03:27.34 | Xinhuan | pitchfu changes your camera pitch, not your movement direction |
| 03:27.35 | Diao | won't that screw up your pitch calculation |
| 03:27.53 | Ellipsis | yes, but you only need to get it right once |
| 03:27.58 | Xinhuan | no addon can move your character for you |
| 03:27.58 | Ellipsis | you use the right mouse button to get yourself level |
| 03:28.00 | Ellipsis | then autorun |
| 03:28.05 | Shirik | movement direction is decently easy to calculate, I'm not sure why there's a major issue |
| 03:28.08 | Ellipsis | then you can look wherever you want and you know you're still level |
| 03:28.18 | JoshBorke | meh, /console pitchLimit=0 |
| 03:28.19 | Xinhuan | ya that works, you just don't get the % info ;p |
| 03:28.24 | Ellipsis | idk, it seems like the requirement of an entire tourist lib is a little overkill |
| 03:28.39 | durcyn | ....who gives a shit? are you surveying to build a house in game or just anal-retentive? |
| 03:28.43 | Ellipsis | I just like to use the minimum amount of code that accomplishes what I want |
| 03:28.47 | Ellipsis | anyway, to each his own |
| 03:28.48 | Xinhuan | you most likely already use touristlib anyway |
| 03:28.54 | Ellipsis | actually I don't |
| 03:29.36 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55744 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: fix proximity |
| 03:29.40 | kenlyric | it's no fun to afk fly and find yourself mashed into the ground or hitting the ceiling. |
| 03:29.52 | CIA-8 | 03perunaion * r55745 10ForceEnchant/ (. Core.lua ForceEnchant.toc Locale-enUS.lua libs/): |
| 03:29.52 | CIA-8 | ForceEnchant: |
| 03:29.52 | CIA-8 | - Added core module files. |
| 03:29.52 | CIA-8 | - The 'real' initial import ;) |
| 03:29.52 | CIA-8 | - Added libs directory and appropriate externals. |
| 03:29.59 | durcyn | so the latter. |
| 03:30.02 | Ellipsis | so use pitchfu, or the pitchLimit cvar like JoshBorke suggested |
| 03:30.03 | kenlyric | and if you're skimming the ground for nodes. |
| 03:30.26 | Xinhuan | can someone check the TOC of ForceEnchant to see what it does? :) |
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| 03:30.27 | kenlyric | hey, i'm not the one arguing for this mod! |
| 03:30.28 | Xinhuan | i'm interested |
| 03:30.34 | kenlyric | just explaining why people might want it. |
| 03:30.36 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: you shouldn't go AFK if you're skimming the ground ;) |
| 03:30.39 | Diao | that's what i was about to do Xinhuan |
| 03:30.39 | Diao | lol |
| 03:31.01 | durcyn | ## Notes: A utility to auto-accept re-enchant confirmation dialog boxes. |
| 03:31.02 | kenlyric | the game really just needs a "level off" keybinding. |
| 03:31.09 | kenlyric | ooooooh |
| 03:31.16 | Ellipsis | bind a key to a pitchLimit macro :P |
| 03:31.17 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 03:31.17 | Diao | i guess for raising enchanting |
| 03:31.32 | Diao | when you're raising enchanting and keep enchanting the same armor over and over |
| 03:31.33 | durcyn | might be useful for reapplying temporary enchants as well |
| 03:31.33 | Diao | :P |
| 03:31.36 | Ellipsis | yeah, that would be nice for the intense skillup sessions |
| 03:31.50 | Diao | what if you don't have any spare keys left to bind |
| 03:31.51 | Diao | or no macro slots left |
| 03:31.53 | Diao | :o |
| 03:31.55 | kenlyric | that mod makes me cry on how I want it four months ago. |
| 03:32.09 | Ellipsis | Diao: then a keybinding for "level off" wouldn't be very useful to you anyway :P |
| 03:32.18 | Xinhuan | pfft its only 300 or so extra clicks, harden up! :) |
| 03:32.36 | kenlyric | if I was hardy, I wouldn't have so many mods. |
| 03:32.42 | Shirik | script lastPitchLimit = lastPitchLimit or 0; local thisPitch = GetCVar("pitchLimit"); SetCVar(lastPitchLimit); lastPitchLimit = thisPitch; |
| 03:32.44 | Shirik | simple enough; |
| 03:32.45 | Shirik | omg |
| 03:32.55 | Shirik | I can't believe I just put a ; at the end of a sentence >.> |
| 03:33.02 | Ellipsis | ~fail Shirik |
| 03:33.02 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 03:33.08 | kenlyric | I also can't believe you called that "simple enough" |
| 03:33.17 | Ellipsis | it seems simple to me o.O |
| 03:33.19 | Shirik | that's not simple? |
| 03:33.20 | kenlyric | simple is "space" |
| 03:33.27 | Shirik | heh |
| 03:33.29 | Funkeh` | firefox 3 beta 1 |
| 03:33.31 | Funkeh` | Performance improvements such as: better data reliability for user profiles, architectural improvements to speed up page rendering, over 300 memory leak fixes, and a new XPCOM cycle collector to reduce entire classes of leaks. |
| 03:33.37 | Funkeh` | 300 lol |
| 03:33.46 | kenlyric | hey, they added a descend keybind in 2.1 |
| 03:33.51 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 03:33.52 | durcyn | sounds about right, the gecko codebase closely resembles a sieve. |
| 03:33.57 | Diao | 300 |
| 03:33.58 | Diao | o_O |
| 03:34.05 | Diao | the descend keybind is the same as the sit keybind |
| 03:34.06 | Diao | isn't it? |
| 03:34.09 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 03:34.10 | Funkeh` | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html |
| 03:34.29 | Shirik | 300? |
| 03:34.34 | Shirik | And they claimed there weren't any |
| 03:34.36 | Ellipsis | it's over nine thousaaaaand |
| 03:35.03 | Diao | really? |
| 03:35.08 | Diao | i don't remember them claiming there weren't any |
| 03:35.15 | Diao | afaik everyone knew ff had memory leaks |
| 03:35.33 | Funkeh` | ofc |
| 03:35.45 | Ellipsis | it's like michael jackson claiming he never had plastic surgery |
| 03:35.46 | Shirik | oh everyone knew |
| 03:35.47 | Shirik | they just denied |
| 03:35.53 | Ellipsis | we all play along with the joke, but it's not like anyone's really fooled |
| 03:36.04 | kenlyric | how could any sane person claim such a thing. |
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| 03:36.13 | Elgrim | Quick question |
| 03:36.20 | Elgrim | to one of you advanced people |
| 03:36.23 | kenlyric | open 30 tabs. close 30 tabs. enjoy. |
| 03:36.49 | durcyn | aw hell, have to fudge flashblock's xml to load it in 3.0 :/ |
| 03:36.57 | kenlyric | are there changenotes for the beta? |
| 03:36.58 | Diao | lol |
| 03:37.04 | Elgrim | Whats the dogtag used for the classification? (like humaniod,best,undead etc...) |
| 03:37.21 | Shirik | type |
| 03:37.27 | durcyn | Elgrim: isn't that overloaded into race? |
| 03:37.32 | Arrowmaster | did firefox2 every have the memory issue where it would suck up as much virtual ram as possible while remaining really really small in physical ram? |
| 03:37.58 | Diao | Classification |
| 03:38.04 | Elgrim | durcyn might be true |
| 03:38.05 | Ellipsis | Elgrim: http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags |
| 03:38.09 | Shirik | Elgrim: http://wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags |
| 03:38.10 | Shirik | damn it |
| 03:38.14 | Elgrim | [Classification] shows Rare/Elite etc.. |
| 03:38.17 | Ellipsis | it looks like [Creature] is what you want |
| 03:38.21 | Shirik | It's creaturetype |
| 03:38.26 | Shirik | [CreatureType] |
| 03:38.39 | Shirik | er |
| 03:38.40 | Shirik | [Creature] |
| 03:38.43 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 03:38.43 | Shirik | I need to go to sleep |
| 03:38.49 | Elgrim | Creature |
| 03:38.50 | Elgrim | ye |
| 03:38.50 | Shirik | I apparently can't read |
| 03:38.53 | Elgrim | thanks alot |
| 03:38.55 | Ellipsis | er, Shirik |
| 03:38.58 | Ellipsis | ok, I guess I fail too |
| 03:39.08 | Ellipsis | he had it coming |
| 03:39.08 | Diao | race doesn't work? |
| 03:39.11 | Diao | hm |
| 03:39.29 | Diao | oh |
| 03:39.31 | Diao | i use SmartRace/SmartClas |
| 03:39.33 | Diao | Class* |
| 03:39.33 | Ellipsis | SmartRace will revert to Creature if it's non-player |
| 03:39.34 | Diao | that's why |
| 03:40.02 | Funkeh` | damn |
| 03:40.06 | Funkeh` | need a new forecastfox |
| 03:40.10 | Diao | most plugins |
| 03:40.13 | Diao | are broken with ff3 i think |
| 03:40.15 | Funkeh` | noscript works at least |
| 03:40.20 | Funkeh` | updated |
| 03:41.38 | Diao | i use a bunch of plugins :( |
| 03:42.41 | Funkeh` | only used those 2 so had it easy ;p |
| 03:43.33 | Shirik | ok apparently |
| 03:43.37 | Shirik | trying to go into heroic ST |
| 03:43.41 | Shirik | not only kicks you back out |
| 03:43.44 | Shirik | but then ports you to shatt |
| 03:44.22 | Funkeh` | uhh |
| 03:44.29 | Funkeh` | got 3 firefox installs in program fiels now |
| 03:44.37 | Funkeh` | 2.x 3 alpha and 3 beta -_- |
| 03:44.53 | Funkeh` | installers should clean up more |
| 03:45.06 | Xinhuan | which do you use |
| 03:45.14 | Funkeh` | well the beta now |
| 03:45.15 | kenlyric | firefox installers never clean up shit. |
| 03:45.24 | kenlyric | which is why I appreciate the internal update feature. |
| 03:45.40 | Funkeh` | if only it did alphas/betas |
| 03:46.17 | kenlyric | FAu |
| 03:46.38 | Xinhuan | so the 300 memory leaks could be referring to leaks in the alpha? |
| 03:46.43 | Xinhuan | rather than firefox 2.0? |
| 03:46.56 | Funkeh` | I doubt that |
| 03:47.16 | Funkeh` | They fixed a lot of leaks in the alpha already |
| 03:47.19 | Funkeh` | during alpha |
| 03:47.30 | kenlyric | hmmm, no chatzilla, so, dead to me. |
| 03:48.34 | Diao | what's heroic ST Shirik? |
| 03:49.07 | Shirik | heroic sunken temple |
| 03:50.49 | Diao | o_O |
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| 03:51.42 | JoshBorke | Shirik: does it port you to shattrath or your hearth? |
| 03:54.08 | Diao | gahhhh |
| 03:54.15 | Diao | i was owning this warrior |
| 03:54.24 | Diao | had him at 1%, he had me at 72% after he charged me |
| 03:54.30 | Diao | then a pally comes out of nowhere and bops/heals him :( |
| 03:55.12 | JoshBorke | owned |
| 03:58.15 | Estil | clearly, paladins need a nurf |
| 03:58.49 | Estil | wait, I thought all alliance paladins are supposed to be "LOLRET" and swing 2h in an attempt to deal dps |
| 03:58.53 | Morpheus|play | has opposite faction nameplates completely quit working in aloft for anyone else? |
| 03:59.55 | Lukian | my own faction ones die quite often |
| 04:00.09 | Lukian | something's up, but I have nfi what it is :/ |
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| 04:00.34 | Lukian | I've even seen the default castbar attached below the aloft castbar, but empty |
| 04:01.55 | Morpheus|play | yeah i have seen that issue talked about since 2.3 but my opposite faction plates are totally gone dsame faction is fine but.. |
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| 04:07.05 | Ellipsis | hmm, strange |
| 04:07.34 | Ellipsis | anyone ever have their fps drop a ton and stay that way until you exit and restart? |
| 04:07.53 | ulic | only after tabbing in and out alot. |
| 04:08.10 | Ellipsis | huh..is that new? |
| 04:08.16 | ulic | not for me |
| 04:08.27 | Ellipsis | never happened to me before, and I'm pretty much addicted to alt-tab |
| 04:08.36 | Gagorian | I sometimes get very low framerates when tabbing back |
| 04:08.42 | Gagorian | Alt-tabbing again fixes it |
| 04:08.50 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 04:09.03 | Ellipsis | mine wouldn't go away after alt-tabbing a few more times |
| 04:09.32 | Gagorian | Might help if you let it wait for a while before alt tabbing back |
| 04:09.49 | Gagorian | Well not like more than 4-5 seconds |
| 04:09.58 | Gagorian | but if going back instantly it might not help |
| 04:12.43 | kenlyric | i've never had that problem. |
| 04:12.44 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 04:12.46 | kenlyric | but my fps is always low. |
| 04:13.08 | Ellipsis | mine is usually 15-30, but it was like maxing at 3 |
| 04:14.03 | kenlyric | is AceLocale new or old? |
| 04:15.40 | kenlyric | and I meant -3.0 |
| 04:16.11 | kenlyric | hmmm, it doesn't appear to exist at all. |
| 04:16.25 | kenlyric | unless it's in the Ace3 branch |
| 04:17.40 | Ellipsis | why would a 3.0 ace lib be in ace2? o.O |
| 04:17.50 | kenlyric | cause the numbers are all fucked up? |
| 04:17.54 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 04:18.04 | Ellipsis | all the ace2 libs have 2.x numbers |
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| 04:18.31 | dylanm | Wha? |
| 04:18.32 | kenlyric | sure, now you tell me |
| 04:18.36 | kenlyric | I could have saved a lot a time. |
| 04:18.42 | dylanm | What about the parserlib and all that. I know that went above 2 |
| 04:18.43 | kenlyric | anyone. I'll need to stab him. |
| 04:18.50 | kenlyric | those aren't part of ace |
| 04:19.01 | kenlyric | (2) |
| 04:19.22 | kenlyric | so anyway, he used a branch lib in his trunk mod. |
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| 04:19.28 | dylanm | Sorry I jumped in the middle of this discussion. May have to scroll up to not be dumb.. |
| 04:19.52 | CIA-8 | 03chexsum * r55746 10KillingSpree/ (KillingSpree.lua KillingSpree.toc): |
| 04:19.52 | CIA-8 | KillingSpree: |
| 04:19.52 | CIA-8 | - Possibly fixed no icon/text error :) |
| 04:20.56 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: who's using a branch lib in their trunk mod? |
| 04:21.09 | kenlyric | Orionshock |
| 04:21.13 | JoshBorke | oh |
| 04:21.16 | kenlyric | in SickofClickingDailies |
| 04:21.30 | kenlyric | kaliri wing in the first kill. Hot! |
| 04:21.32 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r55747 10FuBar_SpeedFu/ (Libs/ SpeedFu.lua embeds.xml): FuBar_SpeedFu: Remove Tablet embed, for it is not used. |
| 04:21.58 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: well, you should ask him to move it to branches because Ace3 shouldn't be deployed anywhere |
| 04:21.59 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 04:22.16 | Ellipsis | wings aren't 100% drops? |
| 04:22.24 | Ellipsis | I've always gotten them on first kill o.o |
| 04:22.30 | kenlyric | nope |
| 04:22.49 | kenlyric | first day on this quest I killed quite a few. |
| 04:23.19 | Ellipsis | huh, guess I'm actually lucky at something |
| 04:26.35 | kenlyric | I still can't believe that clay oven has been there in shatt this whole time. |
| 04:27.38 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 04:27.43 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 04:28.18 | kenlyric | so much simple wood wasted |
| 04:28.32 | kenlyric | and all because I stood on the wrong side of the vendor. |
| 04:28.41 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 04:28.45 | Ellipsis | you *made* a fire? |
| 04:29.10 | Ellipsis | I can forgive you for not realizing that the clay oven would work |
| 04:29.15 | Orionshock | kenlyric: pong |
| 04:29.18 | Ellipsis | but there is a fire *right in front* of the cooking guy |
| 04:29.38 | kenlyric | I didn't *see* the clay oven |
| 04:29.49 | kenlyric | and half the fires in shatt don't let you cook. |
| 04:30.08 | kenlyric | all I knew is I talked to the cooking vendor, tried to cook, got fail, built a fire. |
| 04:30.44 | Orionshock | kenlyric: .... i know... i know... i figure i'd get fire for doing that |
| 04:30.53 | kenlyric | not fire. |
| 04:30.56 | kenlyric | it just doesn't work. |
| 04:31.03 | kenlyric | well, not fire from me :) |
| 04:31.38 | Orionshock | kenlyric: what locale? |
| 04:31.47 | kenlyric | enUS |
| 04:31.53 | Orionshock | what's wrong? |
| 04:32.19 | kenlyric | the library isn't in the trunk, so wau can't get it when it looks for dependencies. |
| 04:32.36 | Orionshock | right, you have to get the with externals version... |
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| 04:32.50 | kenlyric | and, as Josh said, those libs shouldn't be distributed in the trunk yet. |
| 04:33.13 | Orionshock | meh... |
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| 04:35.01 | Orionshock | login servers down? |
| 04:35.11 | kenlyric | huzzah! skullfish soup |
| 04:35.39 | ulic | Orionshock: can't get past auth on live realms |
| 04:35.44 | Orionshock | ya |
| 04:35.49 | ulic | booooo |
| 04:36.08 | kenlyric | you know what I'd like on my hunter? any goddamn recipe. |
| 04:36.12 | kenlyric | 3 days in a row now :/ |
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| 04:39.51 | dylanm | Unable to connect |
| 04:39.51 | dylanm | Humm |
| 04:42.36 | Kivin | dylamn, you unable to log into wow? |
| 04:43.34 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8649/raidertoolne7.png starting to look good :) finaly got all the code updated to some of the stuff i asked about earlier. |
| 04:43.56 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 04:44.51 | Camci | hahaha this is so lol http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10001.0 |
| 04:45.35 | Kivin | haha camci |
| 04:45.52 | Unrealii | ~seen jerry |
| 04:45.54 | purl | jerry <n=root@202.74.105.113> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 35d 2h 3m 8s ago, saying: 'MSG GreaseMonkey hi.'. |
| 04:46.10 | Camci | 603 addons installed is just hilarious |
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| 04:46.47 | CIA-8 | 03perunaion * r55748 10ForceEnchant/ForceEnchant.toc: |
| 04:46.47 | CIA-8 | ForceEnchant: |
| 04:46.47 | CIA-8 | - Added forum metadata. |
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| 04:48.16 | kenlyric | I want to install them all. |
| 04:48.19 | kenlyric | see what happens. |
| 04:48.25 | Kivin | hahaha... |
| 04:48.31 | Kivin | one day i'll try that and offer a screenshot |
| 04:48.33 | Kivin | just for gags |
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| 04:48.38 | Kivin | maybe april 1st |
| 04:49.11 | kenlyric | where's the screenshot? |
| 04:49.31 | Camci | actually |
| 04:49.38 | Camci | im gonna do it now just for the fuck of it |
| 04:49.44 | Camci | every single addon |
| 04:49.45 | kenlyric | login server is broken |
| 04:49.51 | Camci | ah fuck |
| 04:49.54 | Camci | :( |
| 04:49.55 | Kivin | http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1888/wowscrnshot112007222904xj1.jpg <- lawl |
| 04:50.17 | Kivin | all 603 |
| 04:50.34 | kenlyric | that repair thing on the char frame is pretty nifty. |
| 04:51.08 | Ellipsis | geez, it's like nobody's ever heard of Fizzle before, lol |
| 04:51.30 | Kivin | login server is back up |
| 04:51.40 | kenlyric | on the old lootlink replacement. |
| 04:51.44 | Camci | i havent heard of fizzle |
| 04:51.48 | kenlyric | err, "only... |
| 04:52.05 | kenlyric | and, I though these were 603 ace mods |
| 04:52.22 | kenlyric | nice. |
| 04:52.27 | kenlyric | four days in a row with no recipe. |
| 04:52.35 | kenlyric | maybe I should just stop taking the meat box. |
| 04:52.43 | Camci | take fish |
| 04:52.50 | Camci | got 2 recipes from it alrdy |
| 04:53.19 | Camci | right so how do i install all the addons from WAU? if i have to check all boxes manually i aint doint it |
| 04:53.40 | Kivin | shift and highlight lots of them, then check one |
| 04:53.53 | Xinhuan | no, god comes down and clicks them for you |
| 04:54.09 | Kivin | my mistake |
| 04:54.18 | Camci | that doesnt work |
| 04:54.30 | Kivin | dunno, i did it earlier to install about eight or nine |
| 04:54.40 | kenlyric | it works. |
| 04:54.59 | Kivin | yep, it does |
| 04:55.09 | Camci | o.O |
| 04:55.11 | Kivin | click, shift, click again (different item). it'll select everything inbetween |
| 04:55.15 | Kivin | then check one |
| 04:55.33 | Xinhuan | it'll be more than 603 now |
| 04:55.40 | Xinhuan | a lot more addons go toc updated to 20300 |
| 04:55.48 | Xinhuan | got* |
| 04:55.52 | Lukian | Ellipsis, yeah, not many people have |
| 04:56.09 | Camci | which WAU you use? |
| 04:56.14 | Camci | doesnt work with this one... |
| 04:56.39 | kenlyric | he wants to do them all, not just the updated to 20300 :) |
| 04:57.03 | Xinhuan | in that post, the guy only installed the ones with 20300 |
| 04:57.12 | Camci | the tab where it says "All" yea |
| 04:57.20 | kenlyric | yeah, we want to defeat that guy. |
| 04:57.26 | Camci | XD |
| 04:57.33 | Xinhuan | actually i wonder why that thread even got 4 pages of replies |
| 04:57.35 | Camci | its 6 am and im bored |
| 04:57.36 | kenlyric | tab that says all? |
| 04:57.44 | Camci | yea tab that says All |
| 04:57.45 | kenlyric | you're using wau2? |
| 04:57.48 | Camci | yes |
| 04:57.55 | kenlyric | ah. might be the problem |
| 04:58.07 | Camci | feck it ill manually check them all |
| 04:59.16 | Camci | would suck if i forgot to tkae back up of my current one :D |
| 04:59.34 | Xinhuan | it might be faster if you just checkout the entire trunk in the SVn ;p |
| 04:59.44 | Xinhuan | without externals |
| 05:00.04 | Camci | isnt that cheating? :P |
| 05:00.42 | Xinhuan | well ok go click 600 checkboxes then :) |
| 05:00.55 | kenlyric | 1110 |
| 05:01.02 | Xinhuan | or install WAU 1.44 |
| 05:01.04 | Xinhuan | 1.9.44 |
| 05:01.49 | Camci | right |
| 05:01.58 | Camci | click time... |
| 05:02.36 | kenlyric | man, it's *crazy* how many lowbies are running instances. |
| 05:02.54 | kenlyric | I feel like a priest all over again. |
| 05:02.56 | Xinhuan | they are new subscribers i bet |
| 05:03.16 | CIA-8 | 03scorpion * r55749 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.toc Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 05:03.16 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 05:03.16 | CIA-8 | add zhTW translation |
| 05:03.16 | CIA-8 | add zhCN translation |
| 05:03.43 | grennon | damned taint again |
| 05:08.10 | Camci | where do i get the older WAU? |
| 05:08.16 | Camci | wau2 doesnt work... |
| 05:08.32 | grennon | the only unsecure hook left in my mod is chatframe addmessage |
| 05:08.41 | Xinhuan | google it |
| 05:08.48 | grennon | is that secure now? |
| 05:08.49 | Xinhuan | also its not older |
| 05:09.40 | Xinhuan | they are just 2 different versions of WAU |
| 05:09.40 | Xinhuan | grennon, no |
| 05:09.40 | Xinhuan | what kind of taint are you getting |
| 05:09.54 | kaiden | What's a quick way to tell PartyPets position in PitBull to reset to default? |
| 05:10.13 | ScoTTie_ | anyone's autobar not showing all buttons correctly ? |
| 05:10.18 | ScoTTie_ | like hearthstone |
| 05:10.29 | grennon | im such a taint nublet, i dont even know what kind of taint im getting |
| 05:10.50 | grennon | i have the taint log set to 1 |
| 05:10.56 | Xinhuan | there's nothing wrong with taint |
| 05:11.06 | Xinhuan | its only a problem if it causes action blocked in combat |
| 05:11.12 | grennon | it does! |
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| 05:11.24 | Xinhuan | how do you know your addon did it |
| 05:11.40 | grennon | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.46 | grennon | several hundred times in the taint.log |
| 05:12.02 | Camci | ok here we go |
| 05:12.04 | Xinhuan | set taintLog to 2, reloadui, and repeat the taint |
| 05:12.22 | Xinhuan | once you have action block, set taintLog back to 0, and examine your log |
| 05:15.24 | grennon | well, at least ive verified that the only startup taint i have is my own unique named globals |
| 05:15.34 | Xinhuan | not completely true |
| 05:15.42 | Xinhuan | taint.log doesn't log non-global taints |
| 05:16.11 | Xinhuan | for eg, if you replaced GameTooltip's OnUpdate function with your own, its a taint but it won't log it |
| 05:16.17 | Xinhuan | because it isn't a global var |
| 05:17.12 | Xinhuan | another example, replacing ChatFrame1:AddMessage() by hooking it is a taint. but it won't log down either |
| 05:17.26 | Xinhuan | also, its fine to taint :AddMessage() |
| 05:18.58 | grennon | well, here i go into AV to check for taint |
| 05:20.58 | grennon | i really need wow running on linux for debugging |
| 05:21.06 | grennon | grep/etc |
| 05:21.27 | Shirik | why? |
| 05:21.42 | Shirik | not saying wow on linux is a bad thing, just why? |
| 05:21.43 | grennon | its what im used to using for checking log files with |
| 05:21.45 | durcyn | ...there are workable ntvdm ports of most unix utilities |
| 05:21.51 | grennon | its what i know |
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| 05:22.01 | durcyn | http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:22.09 | Shirik | or just get cygwin |
| 05:22.19 | durcyn | eh, cygwin is unwieldy |
| 05:22.20 | dhask | os x ? :) |
| 05:22.23 | grennon | plus, ive got 90MB of log already i could do >taint.log to zap, not sure how to do that fron windows shell |
| 05:22.29 | [AR]Camci | haha computer froze had to manually restart comp :S |
| 05:23.03 | Shirik | quite like that |
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| 05:24.50 | durcyn | grennon: windows doesn't have stderr, but straight up redirects work for stdout |
| 05:25.24 | Shirik | sure it does |
| 05:25.26 | Xinhuan | it does actually |
| 05:25.34 | Xinhuan | stderr's default output is the screen |
| 05:25.36 | durcyn | hrm? accessed via 2> ? |
| 05:26.24 | Xinhuan | you aren't normally able to redirect stderr - defeats the purpose of it if you can |
| 05:26.56 | durcyn | now you're talking nutters, if you can't pipe anything anywhere, there's breakage |
| 05:27.31 | grennon | most common way to trim a log file on unix that full of complete junk is just >log |
| 05:27.45 | Xinhuan | if you did abc.exe > pip.exe to redirect the output of the first exe into the second exe, that redirects stdout of abc.exe into stdin of pip.exe, but doesn't change stderr, so if an error occurs, it still prints that error on screen |
| 05:27.59 | grennon | im at 356MB of taint.log and havent gotten my UI action blocked yet |
| 05:28.18 | durcyn | Xinhuan: er, no, that writes abc.exe's output into pip.exe. i'm talking about 2>foo.txt, not | anotherprogram |
| 05:28.36 | grennon | okay, does anyone have a quick trick for trimming taint.log? |
| 05:28.44 | Zhinjio | oh ffs. I can't connect now. |
| 05:28.48 | Ellipsis | disable all other addons grennon |
| 05:28.49 | durcyn | grennon: copy null taint.log? =P |
| 05:28.51 | Zhinjio | just in the middle of testing. blah. |
| 05:28.54 | Xinhuan | just reloadui grennon |
| 05:29.02 | Xinhuan | it deletes the current log and writes a new one |
| 05:29.43 | Xinhuan | turn on vsync if you want, to limit fps to 60, that will cause less OnUpdates to run, less things to log |
| 05:30.14 | Elgrim | Xinhuan baby! |
| 05:30.15 | Xinhuan | (in theory) |
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| 05:35.28 | buu | Antiar1: ! |
| 05:37.05 | Antiarc | What's up? |
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| 05:38.11 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, whats down?!? |
| 05:39.13 | buu | Antiarc: Aren't you responsible for threat lib? |
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| 05:40.26 | Sole | can people connect to WoW? |
| 05:41.23 | grennon | god, taint is like a noise your car makes |
| 05:41.38 | grennon | when you need it to happen, it wont |
| 05:41.55 | Funkeh` | your cars happens when you don't want it to? |
| 05:42.02 | Funkeh` | no wait, nvm |
| 05:42.04 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 05:42.46 | grennon | your car is making a funny noise, you take it into the shop, and of course it wont reproduce for the mechanic |
| 05:43.02 | Ellipsis | I'd be a bit concerned if my car started reproducing with a mechanic |
| 05:43.07 | Funkeh` | mechanics graceful fixing touch |
| 05:43.20 | Ellipsis | or in front of him, for that matter |
| 05:43.22 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis, my car spontaeniously reproduces |
| 05:43.31 | Ellipsis | cool, can I have one of the offspring? |
| 05:43.39 | Funkeh` | have you passed your test? |
| 05:43.50 | Funkeh` | :) |
| 05:43.51 | Ellipsis | what does that have to do with anything? :) |
| 05:44.13 | Funkeh` | When i'm diriving down the road I can drive safe in the knowledge you are not on it. |
| 05:44.19 | Ellipsis | aww come on now |
| 05:44.24 | Ellipsis | what if I give the car to my bf |
| 05:44.26 | Funkeh` | ...until you pass your test :) |
| 05:44.28 | Ellipsis | he can drive, and almost never even crashes! |
| 05:44.34 | Antiarc | buu: Yes |
| 05:44.48 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis, almost? |
| 05:44.51 | buu | Antiarc: How .. modular is the threat information? |
| 05:44.57 | Ellipsis | well...there was that one time...and the other... |
| 05:45.02 | Antiarc | Quite so. What are you asking for specifically? |
| 05:45.03 | Ellipsis | but most of the time he's good! |
| 05:45.11 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 05:45.12 | buu | Antiarc: I want to access it from a third party application, outside of wow. |
| 05:45.24 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 05:45.38 | Antiarc | Mmm. That may be a problem. Threat is very dependent on talents and buffs and changes constantly |
| 05:45.43 | Antiarc | Or are you just looking for base values? |
| 05:45.49 | buu | Naw, actual values per action. |
| 05:45.59 | buu | Obviously based on the combat log entries. |
| 05:46.02 | Antiarc | Not possible |
| 05:46.09 | Antiarc | Due to talents and buff data and the like |
| 05:46.25 | buu | Well shucks. |
| 05:46.27 | Antiarc | You'd have to have a host of info per player to determine that offline |
| 05:47.03 | Antiarc | Plus things like Sunder not showing in the combat log past 5 sunders :P |
| 05:47.07 | Bejitt- | Antiarc: dropped a bug on Warrior:SunderArmor :X |
| 05:47.12 | buu | Shucks part two! |
| 05:47.17 | Antiarc | Bejitt-: Details? |
| 05:47.30 | buu | Antiarc: I suppose it might be possible to make threat keep a log? |
| 05:47.31 | Bejitt- | errors when passing a number instead of a string |
| 05:47.44 | Antiarc | Mmm, okay, I know what it is |
| 05:47.52 | Bejitt- | me too ;x |
| 05:48.45 | Antiarc | Hm. Do you have a stack trace? |
| 05:49.08 | Bejitt- | it's line 166 of warrior.lua |
| 05:49.27 | Antiarc | Right, but I need to know where that's being called from |
| 05:49.35 | Antiarc | Since it's passing a rank number rather than a rank string |
| 05:49.39 | Bejitt- | called via the query thing that's not finished ;x |
| 05:49.45 | Antiarc | Ooh, right, okay |
| 05:49.57 | Antiarc | yeah, you need to pass "Rank 4" or what have you |
| 05:50.02 | Antiarc | Or just pass "4" rather than 4 |
| 05:50.46 | Bejitt- | well, i shouldnt have to; GetLinearThreatGuess (called the next line) does the convert |
| 05:51.07 | Bejitt- | it's the only one i've seen error so far |
| 05:53.27 | Bejitt- | wtf.. cant connect to wow? o_O |
| 05:53.47 | Antiarc | I can't connect either |
| 05:53.54 | Orionshock | account admin is also down, so the login servers are under maintance atm |
| 05:53.55 | Orionshock | :( |
| 05:53.58 | Orionshock | but i got in :P |
| 05:54.06 | Ellipsis | people have been having problems connecting for a while |
| 05:54.22 | masanbol | D: |
| 05:54.28 | Antiarc | logon server is boned |
| 05:54.42 | Antiarc | Too much turkey. Tryptophan'd. |
| 05:55.03 | masanbol | hahaha |
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| 05:56.54 | Antiarc | Mmm. Forum logins are down too, aren't they? |
| 05:57.55 | xerawx | the trytophan thing is actually kind of an urban myth.. you don't absorb a significant amount through just eating turkey.. it's really just the effect of eating / drinking more than you normally would |
| 05:57.55 | Sole | =[ |
| 05:58.03 | Sole | I wanted to get my WoW fix for today |
| 05:58.16 | Sole | must...do....daily...peeveepee....quest |
| 05:58.33 | Sole | what should I play. Stranglehold, Crysis or The Witcher? |
| 05:58.53 | Antiarc | d) Super Mario Galaxy |
| 05:58.56 | Antiarc | e) Mass Effect |
| 05:59.00 | Bejitt | d!! |
| 05:59.10 | masanbol | f) all of the above... at once |
| 05:59.20 | xerawx | oh login servers are down..? good to know, i was just about to hop realms |
| 05:59.21 | Antiarc | Man, I need to log in to the forums |
| 05:59.34 | Antiarc | I need to correct a noob rogue on the importance of Lethality >:{ |
| 05:59.37 | xerawx | guess i'll just stay logged in |
| 05:59.39 | Antiarc | RAR RAR MUST BE RIGHT |
| 05:59.52 | Sole | lethality is only good for pve :P |
| 05:59.54 | Sole | thats all Im saying |
| 05:59.56 | Antiarc | Not even that |
| 06:00.06 | Antiarc | Lethality is about a 1% overall damage boost for 5 talent points |
| 06:00.09 | Sole | yeah |
| 06:00.13 | Antiarc | Yeeeah no thanks |
| 06:00.15 | Sole | but there isnt much to put those points into is there? |
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| 06:00.27 | Antiarc | If you're backstab, it's great |
| 06:00.35 | Sole | yeah but who the hell is? |
| 06:00.40 | Sole | anyway gotta go :P |
| 06:00.43 | Antiarc | And if you're mutilate it's a nice stepping stone talent |
| 06:00.54 | Sole | otherwise I would make you feel better about being rogue knowledgeable :) |
| 06:00.55 | Antiarc | But uh, if you're not insane and actually some version of hemo, yeah, it's pretty worthless |
| 06:01.28 | Bejitt | hmm wonder if it's the same for warrior impale |
| 06:02.10 | Antiarc | I can tell pretty quickly! |
| 06:02.12 | Antiarc | Sec! |
| 06:02.15 | Bejitt | <3 |
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| 06:02.43 | Bejitt | well, it's 20% increase to special crits |
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| 06:04.42 | Seiphe1 | Anyone having login problems? |
| 06:04.50 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 06:04.54 | Bejitt | yea |
| 06:04.57 | Seiphe1 | Ah good it isn't just me |
| 06:05.54 | grennon | Xinhuan: when i finally get my taint to show up in the log, then what do i do? |
| 06:06.45 | Xinhuan | well |
| 06:06.52 | Bejitt | Antiarc: why are battle shout and commanding shout handled differently o.O |
| 06:06.58 | Xinhuan | find the line in the log that says where an action is blocked |
| 06:07.05 | Xinhuan | what addon does it say |
| 06:07.21 | Bejitt | dont see threat mods on commanding |
| 06:07.25 | Antiarc | Impale is about 2% overall damage increase, if my math is right |
| 06:07.43 | Bejitt | hmm |
| 06:08.02 | Antiarc | But, that's only 2 talent points |
| 06:08.09 | Antiarc | So you get a 1% increase per point, vs a 0.2% increase per point |
| 06:08.23 | Bejitt | ahh yeah |
| 06:08.26 | grennon | something like An action was blocked in combat because of taint from Minimalist - MultiBarRight:SetPoint() ? |
| 06:08.29 | CIA-8 | 03peragor * r55750 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.toc: |
| 06:08.29 | CIA-8 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 06:08.29 | CIA-8 | - TOC had crap in it |
| 06:08.29 | Xinhuan | Bejitt, it gives buffs to your party |
| 06:08.34 | Xinhuan | and that causes threat |
| 06:08.40 | Bejitt | i know how it works |
| 06:08.45 | Xinhuan | ok grennon, look a few lines up |
| 06:08.47 | Antiarc | I just don't remember if shouts are threat-modified or not |
| 06:08.51 | Antiarc | I'll have to test |
| 06:08.52 | Xinhuan | just above that |
| 06:08.58 | Bejitt | but i'm not seeing threat mods on commanding, but i am seeing them on battle |
| 06:08.58 | Antiarc | For some reason I thought they weren't |
| 06:09.03 | Antiarc | One of them is wron |
| 06:09.04 | Antiarc | wrong |
| 06:09.05 | Xinhuan | you will see a line that says execution tainted from... |
| 06:09.13 | Xinhuan | paste that |
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| 06:09.21 | Antiarc | Fortunately, they're small enough that it hasn't mattered, but I should test and fix the incorrect one |
| 06:09.55 | Bejitt | ah |
| 06:09.59 | grennon | something like Execution tainted by Minimalist while reading PETACTIONBAR_YPOS - getglobal() ? |
| 06:10.08 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:10.17 | Bejitt | also, what's the difference between AddThreat and AddTargetThreat? does the former add to all? |
| 06:10.27 | Bejitt | (battle uses target threat) |
| 06:10.32 | Xinhuan | basically, an action was blocked in combat because execution was tainted |
| 06:10.34 | Bejitt | (in threatlib) |
| 06:10.43 | Xinhuan | so we want to find out what tainted execution just before the action blocked |
| 06:10.58 | Xinhuan | so if reading PETACTIONBAR_YPOS is the reason of the taint |
| 06:11.03 | Xinhuan | then you need to find out what tainted PETACTIONBAR_YPOS |
| 06:11.10 | Xinhuan | search your log for what tainted PETACTIONBAR_YPOS |
| 06:11.12 | Antiarc | TargetThreat adds threat to your target, AddThreat adds global threat, and Battle should be global |
| 06:11.18 | Antiarc | So it looks like I goofed on it |
| 06:11.21 | Bejitt | :D |
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| 06:11.25 | Diao | argh |
| 06:11.27 | Ellipsis | bad Antiarc, no turkey |
| 06:11.28 | Diao | stupid login server :( |
| 06:11.32 | Xinhuan | find something like... Global variable PETACTIONBAR_YPOS tainted by... |
| 06:11.37 | Antiarc | Yeah, copy/paste for the lose |
| 06:11.41 | Bejitt | lol |
| 06:11.58 | Bejitt | sucks that you cant tell who exactly got hit by demo shout |
| 06:12.22 | Funkeh` | um, afflicted by? |
| 06:12.22 | Diao | why not? |
| 06:12.26 | Diao | it's in the combat log |
| 06:12.29 | Bejitt | after the first one |
| 06:12.35 | Bejitt | right? |
| 06:12.49 | Funkeh` | would be very suprised if it didn't work |
| 06:12.50 | CIA-8 | 03antiarc * r55751 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: |
| 06:12.50 | CIA-8 | Threat-1.0: |
| 06:12.50 | CIA-8 | - Make Battle Shout properly apply as global threat |
| 06:12.51 | CIA-8 | - Made Commanding Shout threat-moddable (needs verification) |
| 06:12.57 | Antiarc | Mmm. I'm not sure if it shows per target or not |
| 06:13.04 | Antiarc | I have my combat log pretty heavily filtered |
| 06:13.30 | Funkeh` | you're applying an aoe debuff, usually they all appear in the log |
| 06:13.59 | Funkeh` | I could probably tell you with 99% certanty that it does, and would be pretty shocked if it didn't |
| 06:14.00 | Bejitt | also, have you seen how devastate works now? |
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| 06:14.13 | Xinhuan | they all should... abc is afflicted by demoralising shout ? |
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| 06:14.21 | Funkeh` | yup |
| 06:14.39 | Bejitt | Antiarc: http://www.tankspot.com/forums/theory-articles-guides/33437-devastate-testing-25-october.html if you hadnt seen |
| 06:14.41 | Antiarc | Yeah, I tested Devastate out |
| 06:14.42 | Xinhuan | any case where it doesn't appear would be if the target already had the debuff |
| 06:14.49 | Antiarc | The warrior module should be up to date for it |
| 06:15.00 | Antiarc | I had to respec my warrior on live because I was lazy and didn't do it on test >_> |
| 06:15.12 | Bejitt | lol |
| 06:15.33 | Bejitt | so you add sunder threat if the number of sunders on the mob is less than 5? |
| 06:15.38 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 06:15.44 | Bejitt | awesome |
| 06:16.25 | Antiarc | That was, fortunately, easy to do, since sunders past 5 don't show in the combat log |
| 06:16.38 | Antiarc | My solution is an ugly-ass hack, but it works |
| 06:16.39 | Bejitt | haha yea |
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| 06:17.49 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, 2.4 my friend, 2.4 |
| 06:17.52 | Antiarc | Yes. |
| 06:18.09 | Antiarc | And I just noticed that KTM 20.5b doesn't handle Devastate correctly. Heh. |
| 06:18.27 | Bejitt | ;x |
| 06:18.29 | Xinhuan | if i disconnected in combat, and relogs in combat (still fighting the same boss), does threat-1.0 reset my threat to 0 on login? |
| 06:18.53 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 06:19.03 | Antiarc | There's no kind of session stuff |
| 06:19.05 | Bejitt | but do you really keep threat over a relog? |
| 06:19.13 | Funkeh` | your threat resets anyway, if your char disapears |
| 06:19.14 | Antiarc | Fortunately, relogging is a hell of a threat dump. |
| 06:19.21 | masanbol | lol |
| 06:19.22 | Bejitt | haha |
| 06:19.25 | Xinhuan | well, we have had our MT d/c in midfight before |
| 06:19.25 | Xinhuan | and relog |
| 06:19.30 | Xinhuan | and maintained aggro all the way |
| 06:19.33 | Bejitt | hm |
| 06:19.35 | Funkeh` | if the cahr stays |
| 06:19.37 | Antiarc | Hahah, yeah, we've had that happen |
| 06:19.38 | Funkeh` | char* |
| 06:19.39 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 06:19.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah did his char every disappear? |
| 06:19.52 | Arrowmaster | ever |
| 06:20.12 | Funkeh` | and I advise a different mt if he/she disconnects |
| 06:20.17 | Xinhuan | would it be feasible to store the threat value ? |
| 06:20.29 | Antiarc | Eh. Not really. |
| 06:20.35 | Funkeh` | no, because you don't know if it reset or not |
| 06:20.38 | Xinhuan | although it is a minor issue, tanks shouldn't be disconnecting anyway ;p |
| 06:20.38 | Antiarc | Saved vars in libs is just not any fun to try to do. |
| 06:20.51 | Antiarc | Like, it's so much not fun, it's negative amounts of fun. |
| 06:20.53 | Lukian | syncing it from another player would be good |
| 06:20.56 | Xinhuan | wait, so if a person logs out midcombat, he is gauranteed to have threat resetted? |
| 06:21.03 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: You can't /camp in combat. |
| 06:21.04 | Lukian | "hi, i just connected, what's my threat at?" |
| 06:21.06 | Xinhuan | like alt-f4, wait 1 min |
| 06:21.07 | Funkeh` | if hes char disapears |
| 06:21.14 | Xinhuan | and logs in with threat at 0? |
| 06:21.17 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: You could just stop DPSing for that 60 sec. |
| 06:21.18 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 06:21.25 | Antiarc | Which would be more effective and less likely to kill you |
| 06:21.30 | Xinhuan | hmm i guess |
| 06:21.33 | Xinhuan | you have a point |
| 06:21.35 | Antiarc | Lukian: Mmm. Possible, but ugly. :/ |
| 06:21.52 | Funkeh` | very ugly |
| 06:22.00 | Funkeh` | can think of the amount of things that could go wrong |
| 06:22.11 | Antiarc | Fortunately -- |
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| 06:22.37 | Antiarc | The only fights where not having accurate tank threat would bone you are ones with threat wipes or reductions |
| 06:22.45 | dhask | antiarc.. |
| 06:22.47 | Antiarc | And their threat will be right on the next wipe if there is one |
| 06:22.47 | dhask | stop.. dps? |
| 06:22.48 | dhask | wtf? |
| 06:22.55 | dhask | the only reason to stop dps is because you're dead |
| 06:22.57 | Diao | rofl |
| 06:23.00 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 06:23.01 | Diao | classic dps thought pattern ;p |
| 06:23.03 | dhask | not because some slack-jawed tank lost aggro |
| 06:23.04 | Antiarc | Hehehe |
| 06:23.11 | Antiarc | We were discussing UIs in the raid yesterday |
| 06:23.15 | Funkeh` | Its always the tanks fault |
| 06:23.17 | dhask | or some stupid raid mechanic means weak willed DPS should move out of the way |
| 06:23.20 | Funkeh` | they should l2built more threat |
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| 06:23.26 | Antiarc | I said "My raid is a giant damage meter window and a giant Hemo button" |
| 06:23.39 | dhask | (a) knows about being the tank-bitch, and (b) can't do enough dps to pull aggro anyway |
| 06:23.40 | Antiarc | dhask: Well, in fairness, druid tanking is about as complex as pooping. |
| 06:23.49 | Bejitt | haha 'slack-jawed' too much naxx for you |
| 06:23.56 | Funkeh` | moff |
| 06:23.57 | Funkeh` | cya |
| 06:23.58 | dhask | I dunno, with pooping you have to remember to wipe *afterwards* |
| 06:23.59 | sedai| | i cant connect to wow :( |
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| 06:24.04 | Antiarc | Oh, that's true |
| 06:24.05 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, pooping is a very complex body function :) |
| 06:24.08 | dhask | I can mash my face across my keyboard to tank as a druid |
| 06:24.15 | Antiarc | Revision: Druid tanking is much easier than pooping. |
| 06:24.25 | sedai| | anyone not able to log in? |
| 06:24.32 | masanbol | everyone |
| 06:24.34 | dhask | sedai, they did mutter something about login server maintenance |
| 06:24.35 | Antiarc | Login servers are taking a siesta, sedai| |
| 06:24.35 | sedai| | oh |
| 06:24.35 | Kivin | login server = screwed |
| 06:24.41 | sedai| | okay thanks |
| 06:24.43 | dhask | but that might haev been days ago |
| 06:24.43 | dhask | shrug |
| 06:24.50 | Antiarc | Also, I really love being a hemo rogue now |
| 06:24.51 | masanbol | nah, that's not this |
| 06:24.54 | Xinhuan | if you wish, i can msn and harass the guy in charge of the wow login servers :) |
| 06:24.56 | Antiarc | Because I have a 3.5 minute vanish + prep |
| 06:25.07 | Antiarc | Which basically means I never have to worry about threat. It's awesome. |
| 06:25.11 | Xinhuan | but i bet he already knows it |
| 06:25.15 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Do it anyway |
| 06:25.25 | sedai| | pvp at 70 sucks without a lot of resilience |
| 06:25.27 | dhask | xinhuan, tell him that if they're not up in ... oh, two or three hours, 17 hours at the top, I'll protest by not logging in until they ARE up |
| 06:25.30 | Bejitt | Xinhuan: ping. and DO IT |
| 06:25.32 | dhask | sedai, oh yes, yes it does |
| 06:25.36 | sedai| | :( |
| 06:25.39 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 06:25.39 | Antiarc | Tell him that his tank server died and he's about to pull aggro on a million angry nerds |
| 06:25.42 | Bejitt | wtb my crack rock |
| 06:25.45 | dhask | sedai, pvp at 70 sucks when your opponent has a lot of resilience, too |
| 06:25.50 | Bejitt | hahaha |
| 06:26.03 | Bejitt | i thought it was up to like.. 15 million |
| 06:26.04 | sedai| | so basically resilience sucks |
| 06:26.11 | Xinhuan | hmm he's not online in my msn atm |
| 06:26.12 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 06:26.19 | Diao | clearly hiding |
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| 06:26.25 | Antiarc | Clearly passed out |
| 06:26.27 | Bejitt | that's almost enough nerds to beat up a person..! |
| 06:26.32 | sedai| | i heard arena gear would be buyable with honor is that true? |
| 06:26.36 | Antiarc | Yes, season 1 |
| 06:26.36 | Diao | season 1 arena yes |
| 06:26.39 | dylanm | s1 |
| 06:26.41 | masanbol | random UI question: i know errormonster makes it possible to filter out errors like "that spell isn't ready yet," etc., but is it also possible to remove the sounds associated with those errors, like that annoying wooshing noise that you get when you spam a button? |
| 06:26.48 | Diao | turn off error sounds |
| 06:26.51 | Diao | in esc menu, sounds&voice |
| 06:26.53 | sedai| | how much resilience is full s1? |
| 06:26.55 | Antiarc | That's just error speech |
| 06:26.55 | masanbol | that's a different option |
| 06:26.57 | Antiarc | Not the whoosh |
| 06:27.06 | Antiarc | masanbol: you'd need to use a custom MPQ with a blank sound replacement |
| 06:27.06 | masanbol | trust me, that was off a while ago |
| 06:27.08 | Diao | oh |
| 06:27.10 | Arrowmaster | you can overwrite that sound file with a blank sound i think |
| 06:27.12 | Antiarc | Which is technically not against the TOS, but won't get you banned. |
| 06:27.15 | masanbol | Antiarc: sadface :( |
| 06:27.19 | Antiarc | Err, which is technically against the TOS |
| 06:27.24 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, no |
| 06:27.27 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: sounds can still be read from outside if mpq's |
| 06:27.29 | Diao | depends on the class i thinks sedai| |
| 06:27.37 | Xinhuan | you can just dump the .wav file outside the mpq in the appropriate folder path |
| 06:27.44 | Antiarc | They re-enabled that? |
| 06:27.46 | Xinhuan | wow.exe still allows .wav mpq overrides |
| 06:27.50 | Antiarc | Ooh. |
| 06:27.52 | Antiarc | Jsut not model stuff? |
| 06:27.53 | Arrowmaster | never disabled it for sounds |
| 06:27.57 | Antiarc | Interesting. Didn't know that. |
| 06:27.59 | Xinhuan | ya just not models |
| 06:28.03 | Arrowmaster | my fishping has never stoped working |
| 06:28.05 | masanbol | so does a mod that replaces that sound with silence exist? |
| 06:28.11 | Xinhuan | can't override FrameXML and Model files |
| 06:28.17 | Xinhuan | nor the world map files |
| 06:28.17 | Arrowmaster | yes it does exist |
| 06:28.22 | Antiarc | masanbol: I can make one for you in 3 sec if you can't find one |
| 06:28.22 | Xinhuan | but you can override the .wav files |
| 06:28.25 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember where though |
| 06:28.40 | masanbol | Antiarc: that would make me amazingly happy |
| 06:29.04 | Antiarc | sec, just gotta find the path |
| 06:29.08 | dhask | sedai, dunno, will tell you on tuesday when I buy a full set |
| 06:29.09 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55752 10SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua: |
| 06:29.09 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 06:29.09 | CIA-8 | -Change Quest query into 2 func's - should loop properly now... |
| 06:29.09 | CIA-8 | -update GetQuestOption to be more universal |
| 06:29.13 | dhask | nearly at 70k honor |
| 06:29.16 | dhask | should hit cap before then! |
| 06:29.26 | Antiarc | I'm going to have 4933 arena points on Tuesday. Dahaha. |
| 06:29.36 | Diao | lol |
| 06:29.36 | Antiarc | I managed to avoid capping out. |
| 06:29.42 | Xinhuan | i have 4778 right now |
| 06:29.42 | Diao | why would you avoid capping o_o |
| 06:29.53 | Diao | i'm capped on everything, working on my alt's honor now lol |
| 06:29.57 | dhask | my arena points blow |
| 06:29.59 | Antiarc | Because I bought everything and ended up being 67 points short of the cap! |
| 06:30.04 | dhask | I can only play arena around 2am server time |
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| 06:30.09 | Arrowmaster | honor is a set cap now right and not 2x the most expensive time like they said it would be before 2.0 right? |
| 06:30.13 | dhask | which means 3-4hr queues for 5v5 |
| 06:30.18 | Xinhuan | its always been 75k Arrowmaster |
| 06:30.20 | dhask | 1-2hr queues for 3v3 |
| 06:30.22 | Xinhuan | has never changed |
| 06:30.22 | Diao | it is capped at 2x the most expensive item |
| 06:30.24 | Antiarc | ...that's insane |
| 06:30.26 | Diao | which is 75k |
| 06:30.30 | buu | Diao: Really?! |
| 06:30.30 | dhask | 1-2min queues for 2v2, but the ratings are all over the place |
| 06:30.34 | buu | Er, dhask Really? |
| 06:30.38 | dhask | so half the time you're fighting an equal rating team |
| 06:30.41 | buu | dhask: I get instant queues at 2am |
| 06:30.44 | dhask | other half you're against some 1900 team |
| 06:30.50 | dhask | buu, :( not me |
| 06:30.52 | Diao | depends on your server |
| 06:30.55 | Diao | and bg |
| 06:30.57 | dhask | uther/whirlwind for me |
| 06:30.58 | buu | HOLY SHIT REALLY?! |
| 06:31.13 | buu | dhask: Only time I have long queues are at peak play time. |
| 06:31.27 | dhask | me and my warlock partner spent the latter half of 2v2 going from hai we r teh nubs oh wait why we ded? 1400 rating to just scraping back over 1500 |
| 06:31.33 | Kivin | Where do i find the taint log? |
| 06:31.37 | Diao | wow folder/logs |
| 06:31.45 | buu | dhask: Um. |
| 06:31.53 | Bejitt | why in gods name did they have to name it 'taint' |
| 06:31.55 | dhask | latter half of season 2 |
| 06:31.56 | dhask | i mean |
| 06:32.01 | Dangermouse | hi, is there an update of bgassist to ace, in the future? |
| 06:32.11 | dhask | my 5v5 has never had a game |
| 06:32.26 | dhask | we always give up after 30min or so of waiting |
| 06:32.41 | buu | Sucker. |
| 06:33.00 | dhask | which is good, because we're 1500 rating, so I can say "well at least we're not LOSING games, ahaha" |
| 06:33.11 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 06:33.12 | buu | That's uh, one way to look at it. |
| 06:33.14 | dhask | so anyway, upshot is, I have something like 2.4k arena points and have never bought an item |
| 06:33.21 | dhask | so it's season 1 for me |
| 06:33.24 | dhask | maybe the s3 gloves |
| 06:33.35 | Xinhuan | wait, you're getting 2 hour queues at 1500 rating? |
| 06:33.37 | dhask | or save for another two months and get the s2 weapon |
| 06:33.51 | dhask | xinhuan, well, I'm not entirely sure how long the 5v5 queues are |
| 06:33.52 | buu | Ha ha no welfare epix for you! |
| 06:33.55 | dhask | because I've never made it INTO a match |
| 06:33.58 | Bejitt | two months for a weapon? whaa |
| 06:34.00 | Xinhuan | if you are, you should be transferring to a different BG |
| 06:34.01 | dhask | we waitd 2.5hrs one time |
| 06:34.09 | dhask | I've played with the same crew since the game launched |
| 06:34.13 | Xinhuan | its pretty much always instant on my BG, at any hour |
| 06:34.17 | dhask | they're mostly americans, I'm one of four australians in the guild |
| 06:34.20 | dhask | if I was going to transfer |
| 06:34.21 | Xinhuan | at most its a 4 min wait |
| 06:34.23 | dhask | I'd transfer to oceania |
| 06:34.30 | dhask | but if this guild falls apart I'd just /gamequit |
| 06:34.32 | Xinhuan | don't do that, transfer to blackrock :) |
| 06:34.35 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/NoErrorSound.zip <-- unzip into your Data directory and it should work |
| 06:34.47 | dhask | since I played with some of these people for over 10 years in various games |
| 06:34.52 | grennon | i zoned into an EOS tonight that had been going 30 minutes and the bubbles still hadnt opened letting the players out |
| 06:34.55 | dhask | (plus they made me guild leader, makes it harder to transfer) |
| 06:35.00 | dhask | xinhuan, I have friends on khaz'goroth |
| 06:35.06 | dhask | they're raiding about the same level as me |
| 06:35.17 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 06:35.21 | Xinhuan | what level do you raid at :) |
| 06:35.28 | dhask | we've done Lurker/VR |
| 06:35.34 | Dangermouse | or has anyone a alternative addon that checks the nearest targets? |
| 06:35.37 | dhask | probably not gonna do shit all this weekend |
| 06:35.40 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r726 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/ (31_32_Hillsbrad_Foothills.lua 29_30_Ashenvale.lua): TG: I already forgot did I change something |
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| 06:35.44 | dhask | but if we were raiding, I'd expect mag to be going down |
| 06:36.02 | dhask | oh, and 3 bosses in za, if that counts, but I haven't seen the inside of za and probably won't |
| 06:36.05 | dhask | since that's a mid-week raid |
| 06:36.09 | dhask | which happens when I'm at work |
| 06:36.29 | Xinhuan | well you should xfer |
| 06:36.38 | dhask | yeah, I'd solve a whole lot of problems doing so |
| 06:36.42 | dhask | ie, I have 9 total badges |
| 06:36.52 | Xinhuan | you're missing out on a lot of the game just because you want to stay with your friends |
| 06:36.54 | dhask | because it's rare to have 5 people online, let alone 5 who could run an instance |
| 06:37.01 | dhask | xinhuan, I'd miss my friends more |
| 06:37.09 | Xinhuan | you'll make new friends |
| 06:37.12 | Xinhuan | and you can always stay in contact |
| 06:37.19 | Lukian | roll a new characters in 7-8 days :p |
| 06:37.29 | dhask | I have three characters between 60 and 65 |
| 06:37.34 | dhask | that I never play |
| 06:37.37 | dhask | I could just transfer one of those |
| 06:37.43 | dhask | one's a shaman, even, free healorz |
| 06:37.43 | Xinhuan | "because it's rare to have 5 people online" why even play :) |
| 06:37.50 | dhask | xinhuan, I raid with 'em on weekends |
| 06:37.54 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55753 10SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua: |
| 06:37.54 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 06:37.54 | CIA-8 | -this one don't have a self.db, change to accommodate for it |
| 06:37.59 | dhask | but there's not really many 5-mans going on when yer all in SSC |
| 06:38.14 | dhask | shrug, my fiance doesn't really give me time of an evening to play much anyway |
| 06:38.32 | Xinhuan | your first step is to addict her to the game |
| 06:38.35 | dhask | I did |
| 06:38.38 | dhask | she's got a 70 shaman |
| 06:38.40 | dhask | she hates raiding |
| 06:38.50 | dhask | so... yeah, gg there. |
| 06:38.52 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 06:38.52 | purl | :/ |
| 06:38.56 | Bejitt | reroll fiance imo |
| 06:39.01 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 06:39.02 | Bejitt | <3 |
| 06:39.08 | dhask | I'll be with her for life |
| 06:39.12 | dhask | wow will be gone in 5 years at most |
| 06:39.22 | Bejitt | my g/f's been raiding more than me lately @_@ |
| 06:39.24 | dhask | some other game'll come out without raid caps |
| 06:39.28 | Diao | argh |
| 06:39.29 | Xinhuan | [11/23 14:38:58] <dhask> wow will be gone in 5 years at most |
| 06:39.31 | Diao | auth server down |
| 06:39.32 | Xinhuan | i'm going to argue about that one |
| 06:39.36 | Ellipsis | it's already gone |
| 06:39.38 | dhask | xinhuan, gone from my ife |
| 06:39.39 | dhask | life |
| 06:39.49 | Ellipsis | didn't you hear, the login server has died! WoW will never come back to us! |
| 06:39.51 | Xinhuan | p.s. Everquest is releasing another expansion last i heard ;p |
| 06:39.55 | dhask | ya |
| 06:39.59 | dhask | but everquest is long gone from my life |
| 06:40.04 | dhask | I hear ultima online is still running |
| 06:40.08 | dhask | for that matter, LegendMUD is still up |
| 06:40.13 | Kivin | good lord... talk about beating a dead horse |
| 06:40.20 | Diao | as long as people are willing to pay |
| 06:40.23 | Diao | they will last |
| 06:40.32 | dhask | wow won't shut down for a good while longer than 5yrs |
| 06:40.35 | dhask | I expect, anyway |
| 06:40.39 | dhask | but it'll be gone from MY life, heh |
| 06:40.52 | Xinhuan | why the fuck would people still play EQ1 |
| 06:41.01 | dhask | I'll have moved on to some game with a less asswadded end game |
| 06:41.03 | Xinhuan | eq2's been around for a long while now even |
| 06:41.03 | Kivin | I still have a paid subscription to FFXI... I haven't popped in to my server in almost a year, though |
| 06:41.13 | dhask | back in my MUD days, you could take as large a group as you liked to a zone |
| 06:41.26 | dhask | which didn't matter, because there wasn't more loot for more people |
| 06:41.28 | Xinhuan | a MUDs a bit different |
| 06:41.32 | xerawx | is the auth server back online yet? |
| 06:41.35 | dhask | I miss Molten fuckin Core |
| 06:41.36 | Aeyan | MUDs, woot |
| 06:41.39 | Bejitt | "Blizzard is closed for the Thanksgiving Holiday so that employees can spend the Thanksgiving Holiday with their families" spend time with our servers plz ktks >_> |
| 06:41.44 | dhask | because we could run that place with anywhere from 19 people |
| 06:41.45 | Lukian | dhask, I miss ZG |
| 06:41.49 | dhask | ya, and ZG |
| 06:41.53 | dhask | killing half the zone with 15 people |
| 06:42.00 | dhask | whereas now, we need 25. |
| 06:42.03 | xerawx | people on Mal'ganis still run 60 content |
| 06:42.04 | Aeyan | I played the shit out of some Gemstone III and Dragonrealms |
| 06:42.04 | dhask | not 24, not 26, but 25. |
| 06:42.07 | dhask | wait lists suck ass |
| 06:42.21 | Antiarc | I like the 25-man limit, personally |
| 06:42.27 | grennon | dude, i played gemstone III |
| 06:42.28 | dhask | I'd rather let any of my guild members who are online at the time join us |
| 06:42.30 | Antiarc | 40-man raiding was "Bring 25 good people and 15 warm bodies" anyhow |
| 06:42.31 | Bejitt | at least it's not 40 >_> |
| 06:42.40 | grennon | wrote some nice scripts for levelling my toons in GS3 |
| 06:42.41 | dhask | antiarc, yeah, but you could run it with 30 |
| 06:42.44 | Antiarc | Now we just don't have toe bring the warm bodies |
| 06:42.46 | dhask | or at least, MC you could |
| 06:42.51 | grennon | too bad simutronics is a dipshit little company |
| 06:42.59 | dhask | shit, we did every boss up to but not including Sulfuron with under 25 |
| 06:43.06 | dhask | 19 people for first kills on the first three |
| 06:43.18 | Antiarc | I just really like that BC raiding requires the entire raid group to be performing to par |
| 06:43.20 | Aeyan | Yeah, grennon |
| 06:43.21 | dhask | no way we could take 15 people into Gruul's Lair |
| 06:43.24 | Aeyan | Good times though |
| 06:43.25 | Antiarc | No coattail-riders |
| 06:43.36 | Xinhuan | pretty sure Nihilum 15-manned Gruul. |
| 06:43.43 | Xinhuan | and that was months ago |
| 06:43.44 | dhask | no way we could take 15 people into Gruul's Lair |
| 06:43.45 | dhask | ;) |
| 06:43.50 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 06:43.56 | Ellipsis | gruul is easier with less people anyway |
| 06:44.04 | dhask | we could probably 8- or 9-man most of KZ now |
| 06:44.08 | Antiarc | Gruul's just a DPS race, so when you're T6 geared, you could drop him really easily with a partial raid |
| 06:44.18 | Bejitt | but.. but... with 15 people, i cant justify proccing Victory Rush..! |
| 06:44.19 | dhask | but the point is, I don't want to have people sit out of the raid because it's full |
| 06:44.33 | Antiarc | We solved that by running two concurrent raids |
| 06:44.36 | dhask | and the only way that's possible at the edge of progress is if the raid cap is greater than the people required to kill the fight |
| 06:44.45 | dhask | antiarc, that just changes the problem from needing 25 to needing 50 |
| 06:44.46 | Antiarc | One for the more hardcore raiders that goes 4 days/week, and one for the more causal that goes 2d/week |
| 06:44.52 | sedatedChipmunk | we can never get 10 people in kara; we've done everything we've gotten to so far with 6-9 >8P |
| 06:44.56 | Antiarc | dhask: We had a raiding base of about 65 pre-TBC |
| 06:45.11 | dhask | we had maybe 35 at most, but 30 was a great showing |
| 06:45.17 | Ellipsis | there goes sedatedChipmunk talking in his sleep again |
| 06:45.33 | dhask | sedated, how far in are you? |
| 06:45.43 | sedatedChipmunk | so if you actually know teh zone, you should have no trouble at all |
| 06:45.52 | Antiarc | .......rofl |
| 06:45.59 | Antiarc | I love reading the bottom of Digg's barrel |
| 06:46.00 | Antiarc | http://myproblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/to-convert-bat-or-vbs-file-into.html |
| 06:46.02 | Antiarc | This guy is PRO. |
| 06:46.10 | Xinhuan | i've run karazhan about 40 times so far ;) |
| 06:46.23 | sedatedChipmunk | not far, but we're all new to it and we beat things on our first try with 8 or so |
| 06:46.41 | dhask | sedated, attumen should be no trouble |
| 06:46.57 | dhask | sedated, moroes would be OK if your healers can keep up with the garottes, or if you have paladins to BoP them off |
| 06:47.00 | Fritti | sedatedChipmunk: the question is, do you mind that you are not doing the big raids? (I'm at your level myself, did half of kara, no 25-mans) |
| 06:47.01 | dhask | maiden is pretty easy |
| 06:47.12 | dhask | shade of aran might hurt with <10 early in |
| 06:47.25 | grennon | uh yeah |
| 06:47.52 | grennon | curator might suck depending on the makeup of the 8 man if they arent already kara geared |
| 06:47.53 | dhask | fritti, so what do you do in WoW? |
| 06:47.57 | sedatedChipmunk | Fritti: it isn't an issue; we can't even get 10 |
| 06:48.02 | dhask | curator could hurt pretty bad, yes |
| 06:48.15 | Antiarc | Curator's not bad as long as you use the hump strat. |
| 06:48.16 | sedatedChipmunk | it's just a group of my oldskool pvp team |
| 06:48.18 | Fritti | dhask: I don't play much. 4-8 hours a week on 2 nights or somethinig |
| 06:48.20 | dhask | wizard of oz might be a pain to tank too |
| 06:48.33 | dhask | fritti, yes, but ... even so, what do you do in that time? |
| 06:48.34 | dhask | pvp? |
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| 06:48.37 | dhask | 5-mans? |
| 06:48.41 | Fritti | 5-mans & alts |
| 06:48.44 | dhask | nodnod |
| 06:48.47 | dhask | I had four level 60s |
| 06:48.49 | Fritti | heroics is fun |
| 06:48.51 | dhask | I did the alt game pre-TBC |
| 06:48.53 | Fritti | at my gear level |
| 06:48.55 | dhask | I'm not doing it again |
| 06:49.05 | dhask | I can't even stomach levelling another of those 60s to 70 |
| 06:49.23 | Fritti | just wait until they do the accelerated leveling trick from 60-70 when wrath is released :) |
| 06:49.27 | xerawx | I'm in a similar situation.. my "main" made it to shade of aran, server is basically dead.. i shelved him for 6 months and stopped playing totally, now i'm not even sure its worth going back to him but i don't want to completely miss all the 25-mans, not to mention the rest of kara and ZA |
| 06:49.29 | dhask | antiarc, what's the hump strat? |
| 06:49.42 | dhask | fritti, they won't do that for a while, because they won't want death knights levelling too fast |
| 06:49.50 | Fritti | ah right, good point |
| 06:49.57 | Antiarc | dhask: Everyone humps Curator, which means your melee can DPS sparks and curator without moving (and thus losing DPS time) |
| 06:50.09 | dhask | xerawx, if you started now, you'd miss most of the 25-mans by the time WotLK came out anyway |
| 06:50.15 | Antiarc | My guild dropped him during his first evoc their third week in Kara that way, heh |
| 06:50.21 | Antiarc | We've done it that way since |
| 06:50.26 | dhask | we're in early SSC, we'll be lucky to finish SSC/TK by the time WotLK is out, let alone BT/MH |
| 06:50.36 | Kivin | my raid forms a half circle in front of curator. healy shaman in the middle, priest on the right, paladin on the left, dps in the center with the tank |
| 06:50.38 | dhask | antiarc, do the sparks chain to three people only, or continuously? |
| 06:50.39 | Fritti | Antiarc: nice strat, but would it work for people in blues (more healing required I guess) ? |
| 06:50.40 | grennon | yeah, the reason people dont hump is because the first people to put a strat on wowwiki gave that crappy "spread out" strategy |
| 06:50.40 | Kivin | we've never had an issue |
| 06:50.44 | Antiarc | 3 people only |
| 06:50.49 | dhask | hmm |
| 06:50.51 | Antiarc | Fritti: It's less healing required, actually |
| 06:50.59 | Antiarc | Because sparks hit 3 people max, and they don't live as long |
| 06:51.02 | dhask | humping would reduce the damage taken by each individual |
| 06:51.13 | xerawx | dhask: but those should get easier to get into as the next expac gets closer.. idk, he's a priest so i shouldn't have too difficult a time getting a raid spot |
| 06:51.18 | dhask | I know when we started the healers had trouble keeping the tanks and 3x melee up |
| 06:51.27 | Antiarc | I've compared WWSes from hump strats vs spread strats, and the hump strats are generally about 1/3rd the healing required over the course of the fight |
| 06:51.32 | grennon | if you can heal through the hump strat, you arent really curator ready |
| 06:51.35 | grennon | cant* |
| 06:51.51 | Antiarc | The sparks just don't live as long and the fight is a ton shorter |
| 06:51.56 | Fritti | we dropped curator already using the spread-out strat |
| 06:51.58 | Antiarc | If they hit everyone in range, it'd be different |
| 06:51.59 | dhask | yah, I'm gonna recommend that |
| 06:52.09 | Fritti | so we'll try it the humping way next time ;-) |
| 06:52.18 | grennon | you have a dps warrior on a hump strat, and they should be the dps king |
| 06:52.24 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 06:52.31 | dhask | I'd be really surprised if 8 people could down Illhoof before they're geared a fair bit past it |
| 06:52.40 | dhask | he's a nasty dps race for the place he's at |
| 06:52.40 | Antiarc | Illhoof isn't bad if you have a good lock |
| 06:52.44 | Antiarc | It's really bad if you don't |
| 06:52.45 | dhask | a good lock *and* a priest |
| 06:52.47 | grennon | my elemental shaman can top dps on a hump strat too since chain lightning is good there |
| 06:52.53 | dhask | a lock with no pw:s can't cast |
| 06:53.06 | dhask | or at least, that's the trouble we had when we tried druids or paladins as the only healers |
| 06:53.18 | durcyn | dhask: nah, concentration aura + shadowpriest = win there, the rest of the raid can afk |
| 06:53.24 | dhask | (plus if your 2nd healer isn't the swiftest, you're doomed if your 1st healer gets chains) |
| 06:53.28 | sedatedChipmunk | illihoof is the best one; I totally own that fight >8D |
| 06:53.32 | grennon | funny since the original illhoof was as easy as attumen |
| 06:53.33 | dhask | durcyn, shadowpriest = pw:s, yes? |
| 06:53.35 | Diao | bring 2 pallies for healers |
| 06:53.36 | Diao | bubble ftw |
| 06:53.37 | Diao | lol |
| 06:53.44 | Xinhuan | just get a paladin. |
| 06:53.45 | grennon | when they buffed illhoof, we had to have people respec to beat him |
| 06:53.46 | Xinhuan | tanks all :) |
| 06:53.50 | Xinhuan | imps, boss and all! |
| 06:53.55 | durcyn | dhask: don't even need pw:s with conc |
| 06:54.10 | Bejitt | i always OT'd illhoof as a fury warrior.. dps gear, WW+Cleave = dead imps = VR procs = i almost out-dpsed the lock once ;o |
| 06:54.10 | dhask | durcyn, conc. is only, what, 35% resistance? |
| 06:54.10 | sedatedChipmunk | explosivetraps + survival to the hilt |
| 06:54.26 | dhask | I always OT'd kil'rek |
| 06:54.26 | Antiarc | Conc is 70% resistance |
| 06:54.27 | durcyn | dhask: yeah. a little pushback ain't gonna kill you though |
| 06:54.28 | dhask | bearform + swipe |
| 06:54.29 | Diao | no |
| 06:54.30 | Bejitt | granted, i had an enhance shaman w/ me |
| 06:54.31 | Diao | it's 35% |
| 06:54.31 | Xinhuan | you only needed to OT him in the past because he could chain your MT |
| 06:54.33 | Diao | 50% talented |
| 06:54.35 | Antiarc | Oh, right |
| 06:54.39 | Antiarc | It's the talent that's +70% |
| 06:54.40 | Antiarc | Or was |
| 06:54.42 | dhask | durcyn, it does with 5 or 6 mobs hitting you |
| 06:54.45 | Antiarc | It's been forever since I played my paladin |
| 06:54.46 | Diao | yea |
| 06:54.49 | Diao | the pushback talent is 70% |
| 06:54.51 | dhask | lua> (1 - 0.35) ^ 2 |
| 06:54.52 | lua_bot | dhask: 0.4225 |
| 06:54.54 | durcyn | dhask: hi i'm a warlock, and i've killed illhoof. a lot. |
| 06:54.56 | grennon | illhoof doesnt need a magic group config, it mostly comes down to having your group be good on assisting and quick to respond to demon chains |
| 06:54.58 | dhask | lua> 1 - (1 - 0.35) ^ 2 |
| 06:54.58 | lua_bot | dhask: 0.5775 |
| 06:54.59 | Bejitt | er, i meant that i tanked Kil'rick |
| 06:54.59 | dhask | lua> 1 - (1 - 0.35) ^ 3 |
| 06:54.59 | lua_bot | dhask: 0.725375 |
| 06:55.00 | dhask | lua> 1 - (1 - 0.35) ^ 4 |
| 06:55.00 | lua_bot | dhask: 0.82149375 |
| 06:55.01 | dhask | lua> 1 - (1 - 0.35) ^ 5 |
| 06:55.02 | lua_bot | dhask: 0.8839709375 |
| 06:55.05 | durcyn | and there is no pushback talent for seed of curruption |
| 06:55.15 | Xinhuan | fight is trivial to heal if you use dampen magic |
| 06:55.16 | durcyn | corruption rather |
| 06:55.18 | dhask | ... 88% chance to be interrupted with 5 targets hitting you = lose |
| 06:55.18 | Xinhuan | the imps don't hurt |
| 06:55.43 | durcyn | dhask: except that's not a correct statistic. it's a 65% chance. |
| 06:55.44 | dhask | durcyn, it may work for you, but it doesn't seem to work for us, the pushback on SoC means they stack up too fast |
| 06:55.46 | Diao | 88%? O_o |
| 06:55.50 | Bejitt | hmm i think it took us 1.5m that time.. |
| 06:55.52 | Bejitt | maybe 2 |
| 06:55.52 | grennon | dampen magic was the best buff you can put on your rogues/dpswarriors for maiden of virtue |
| 06:56.36 | dhask | they being the imps, heh |
| 06:56.36 | durcyn | dhask: probability doesn't care how many times something happens. one cast might get +2 sec instead of +1.5, but it's still 65% chance... and if your warlock can't do it, he probably sucks |
| 06:56.37 | grennon | damped and amp magic are two of the most overlooked buffs |
| 06:56.51 | dhask | durcyn, we did have some slack warlocks at the time |
| 06:57.02 | dhask | one left the guild in the end over pressure to respec out of demo and into something raid viable |
| 06:57.09 | Xinhuan | on Hakkar, we would always use Amplify magic |
| 06:57.21 | Xinhuan | because the souldrain isn't increased by amplify |
| 06:57.25 | dhask | we used it vs mandokir when we remembered to |
| 06:57.29 | grennon | hakkar was a bitch when ZG was released |
| 06:57.37 | Xinhuan | so you still got helaing increased |
| 06:57.39 | dhask | heh, tony the tiger was the only real roadblock there for us |
| 06:57.43 | Xinhuan | but not damage taken |
| 06:57.45 | Antiarc | I don't know a lot about warlocks... |
| 06:57.51 | Antiarc | ...but our top raiding warlock is 44 demo |
| 06:57.53 | sedai| | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/830493/muay_thai_fighter_tony_jaa/ has music, dope vid |
| 06:57.57 | dhask | we got stuck at tony for literally months, before we pulled our shit together and told people to come prepared or not at all |
| 06:58.00 | Antiarc | And we're in BT |
| 06:58.00 | grennon | well, hakkar was a bitch to heal the tank on, the fight itself was an easy gimmick |
| 06:58.10 | durcyn | Antiarc: demo can be a solid personal dps spec, dhask was probably talking about some pvp felguard nonsense |
| 06:58.13 | dhask | when we did finally get tony down, it was two weeks later to feasting on hakkar's corpse |
| 06:58.41 | grennon | we beat ZG the night it was released, so i cant really empathize :-) |
| 06:58.49 | Antiarc | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Kerena |
| 06:59.03 | dhask | durcyn, no, I was talking about a solo PvE demo spec played by someone whose primary use for the felguard was to demo sac it anyway |
| 06:59.17 | xerawx | from what i know demo becomes more viable than affliction as a raid spec later in end game |
| 06:59.28 | dhask | that's what I hear about destro |
| 06:59.35 | xerawx | er destro yea |
| 06:59.37 | dhask | some of our locks are starting to switch to destro |
| 06:59.42 | dhask | to reduce our debuff count |
| 06:59.53 | durcyn | dhask: oh, then he -was- dumb. DSing a felguard is... retarded |
| 06:59.53 | dhask | grennon, we were in UBRS blues, heh |
| 06:59.59 | Diao | because destro scales better |
| 07:00.02 | Ellipsis | why would you DS FG? |
| 07:00.03 | dhask | durcyn, he's a good friend, but yeah, his raid skills blew |
| 07:00.11 | Diao | it's like fury > arms at high end gear |
| 07:00.12 | Ellipsis | 21/40 is way better :/ |
| 07:00.24 | dhask | ellipsis, so you have more mana during the fight, duh |
| 07:00.25 | dhask | ;) |
| 07:00.27 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55754 10SickOfClickingDailies/SickOfClickingDailies.toc: |
| 07:00.27 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 07:00.27 | CIA-8 | -ok.. if your going to have an embeds.xml file... use it. |
| 07:00.32 | Ellipsis | yeaaaah |
| 07:00.41 | dhask | oops, getting late, I'd better go pick up my fiance before this storm hits |
| 07:00.50 | dhask | have a good weekend all, even those who still have one day left before it starts! |
| 07:00.59 | durcyn | bye dhask, i'll miss you. |
| 07:01.06 | dhask | I'm at a conference all next week, so when I don't talk to you, it's not just because I'm avoiding durcyn |
| 07:01.23 | durcyn | i already miss you tbh, should probably go! |
| 07:02.47 | grennon | wish i could get into the game to test my mods |
| 07:03.15 | grennon | sucks to work at blizz and get paged in the middle of the night on a holiday |
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| 07:04.21 | Kivin | they sure are taking their time getting stuff back up |
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| 07:05.46 | masanbol | Antiarc: i'd test the nosound thing if i could log in, but thanks for putting that together |
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| 07:06.47 | Provus | I have a question. |
| 07:07.32 | Provus | Would it be possible for an addon to bind a key to cast rank 1 ice armor if Molten Armor is up, and Molten Armor if any Ice armor is up? |
| 07:07.48 | Kivin | Your action buttons can't check cooldowns |
| 07:08.17 | Kivin | They can only perform simple logic based on modifier keys, which button clicked them, and the state of people around you |
| 07:08.26 | Provus | I was thinking more along the lines of checking (while not in combat) which buff is up, and making it so a /castsequence is ready with whatever's up. |
| 07:08.46 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with a simple /castsequence? |
| 07:08.55 | xerawx | if armor buffs were like forms then you could, but no. |
| 07:08.55 | Provus | So, out of combat, if it sees that I cast ice armor, it will switch that button to /castsequence Molten Armor, Ice Armor(rank 1) |
| 07:08.58 | Ellipsis | assuming you're just toggling between the two |
| 07:09.16 | Provus | But if I have Molten Armor up, it'll make the button /castsequence Ice Armor(Rank 1), Molten Armor |
| 07:09.25 | Ellipsis | .....why would it need to? |
| 07:09.40 | Provus | because casting Molten Armor when I have molten armor up isn't really beneficial. |
| 07:09.40 | Ellipsis | the whole point of castsequence is that it remembers where you are in the sequence |
| 07:09.50 | Provus | Wait, do sequences loop? |
| 07:09.53 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 07:09.54 | Kivin | as long as there's no reset in the castsequence, it'll maintain it's integrity through anything |
| 07:09.59 | Kivin | yep, loops |
| 07:10.00 | Provus | Ah, but the problem is it needs to cast rank 1 ice armor |
| 07:10.04 | Provus | And I use full rank ice armor. |
| 07:10.09 | Provus | But I can't afford it in combat. |
| 07:10.31 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 07:10.33 | Lukian | [nocombat] Ice Armor |
| 07:10.42 | Provus | So how would that look? |
| 07:10.44 | Lukian | [harm] Ice Armor (rank 1) |
| 07:10.44 | xerawx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:10.53 | Provus | How would you fit that into a cast sequence. |
| 07:11.02 | xerawx | you'd have 2 /castsequences |
| 07:11.33 | Provus | ./castsequence [combat] Ice Armor(Rank 1) [nocombat] Ice Armor, Molten Armor ? |
| 07:11.34 | xerawx | or one just a /cast maybe |
| 07:11.51 | Provus | But if I did a /cast it wouldn't remember where I am in the cast sequence. |
| 07:11.54 | Provus | You can see the dilemme. |
| 07:11.56 | Provus | dilemma* |
| 07:12.08 | Kivin | I'd probably use two different mouse buttons |
| 07:12.18 | Provus | I don't have a spare unfortunately. :/ |
| 07:12.38 | Provus | Can you use multiple conditionals in a cast sequence? |
| 07:12.43 | Kivin | castsequences don't really loan themselves well to advanced programming |
| 07:12.50 | Kivin | the conditional affects the entire sequnce |
| 07:12.56 | Cyrez | My mouse has 7 buttons, but WoW can only use 5. >< |
| 07:12.58 | Provus | I was afraid of that. |
| 07:12.59 | Kivin | it reads "if this is true, cast this and this and this and this" |
| 07:13.00 | sedatedChipmunk | /castsequence [combat] Ice Armor(Rank 1), Molten Armor /castsequence [nocombat] Ice Armor, Molten Armor |
| 07:13.19 | Provus | Let me test that out Chipmunk |
| 07:13.40 | ramoz | /castrandom :D |
| 07:13.48 | sedatedChipmunk | if the index is held to the macro, not the line, that'll work |
| 07:14.26 | Lukian | Cyrez, yeah sad isn't it? |
| 07:14.33 | Provus | Nope, doesn't work the way I need it to. |
| 07:14.37 | Lukian | at least it supports more than 2-3 :D |
| 07:14.45 | Kivin | Provus, gonna need to break down and use more than one button |
| 07:15.25 | Provus | I hit the macro chipmunk, it casted ice armor, I went into combat, hit the macro again, and it tried to cast Rank 1 ice armor, which it couldn't because full rank ice armor was active |
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| 07:16.06 | Ellipsis | which would make it get stuck |
| 07:16.07 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 07:16.13 | sedatedChipmunk | so it's per-line then |
| 07:16.18 | Ellipsis | if you put molten armor first in the combat macro... |
| 07:16.20 | Antiarc | Add /cancelaura Ice Armor before the second /castsequence |
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| 07:16.37 | Provus | ..but I don't want it to recast Ice Armor anyway! |
| 07:16.38 | sedatedChipmunk | you can't conditional cancelaura though |
| 07:16.44 | Antiarc | You don't need to |
| 07:16.50 | Antiarc | Since it won't cancel anything that isn't there |
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| 07:17.03 | Ellipsis | as long as you specify rank in the cancelaura |
| 07:17.09 | Provus | I'm saying by putting up the full rank of Ice Armor out of combat, next up in the sequence when I enter combat is Ice Armor (Rank 1) |
| 07:17.13 | Provus | That's kind of redundant. |
| 07:17.14 | Ellipsis | you don't really want to waste mana downranking it |
| 07:17.16 | sedatedChipmunk | yeah, but it still will cast rank 1 |
| 07:17.32 | Provus | Addons can't check for buffs while out of combat? |
| 07:17.32 | sedatedChipmunk | he wants the index to move on both simultaneously |
| 07:17.56 | Provus | Yeah, is that at all possible? |
| 07:18.08 | sedatedChipmunk | castspellbyname is protected |
| 07:18.32 | Kivin | you'd basically need a second addon button that tests your buffs and combat status and injects behavior into your action button |
| 07:18.46 | sedatedChipmunk | right |
| 07:18.55 | Provus | ew. |
| 07:18.56 | sedatedChipmunk | which is what i think he was getting at from the very start |
| 07:19.05 | Kivin | it's sloppy |
| 07:19.12 | Provus | Yeah, it was. But that method sounds sloppy. |
| 07:19.16 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/77838 |
| 07:19.18 | Kivin | why wont that work? |
| 07:19.32 | Provus | Because I don't click on it. |
| 07:19.34 | xerawx | i'd just put a /cast [modifier] Ice Armor(Rank 1) above the castsequence |
| 07:19.39 | Kivin | you can use modifiers |
| 07:19.46 | Provus | Don't have the room. |
| 07:19.54 | xerawx | :\ |
| 07:19.55 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 07:20.00 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/77839 |
| 07:20.08 | Provus | I have 58 keybindings related to actions taken related to combat. |
| 07:20.18 | Kivin | well you're going to have to make compromises someplace |
| 07:20.30 | Provus | This includes bombs, almost every single one of my mage spells, eating/drinking, bandaging, mounting.. |
| 07:20.38 | Provus | I really don't have much room |
| 07:20.43 | sedatedChipmunk | or rewrite infinibar |
| 07:20.45 | durcyn | put it on your old detect magic key ;) |
| 07:20.50 | Provus | Evocation is there now. |
| 07:21.00 | sedatedChipmunk | he needs to make room for ice block |
| 07:21.06 | Kivin | well perhaps it's time to start putting stuff on mouse buttons that doesn't need to be fired in combat |
| 07:21.13 | Provus | Plus I have Icy Veins to worry about in 2.3.2 |
| 07:21.22 | sedatedChipmunk | yeah, or that |
| 07:21.32 | Provus | This IS on a mouse button. |
| 07:21.33 | durcyn | poor you. |
| 07:21.42 | Kivin | <Provus> Because I don't click on it. |
| 07:21.42 | Provus | Thumb button + the button below my scrollwheel |
| 07:21.49 | Provus | ..right. I don't. |
| 07:22.06 | Provus | I don't consider a 'click' unless I move my cursor over a button and left click it. |
| 07:22.06 | sedatedChipmunk | yeah, i'm at my 120-button limit, too; but you learn to work with it |
| 07:22.24 | Provus | Or right click it |
| 07:22.29 | sedatedChipmunk | you can combine a lot of disjoint actions with macros |
| 07:22.33 | Kivin | a click triggering an action by pressing a moving peice of your mouse |
| 07:22.51 | sedatedChipmunk | bombing run explosives are a great example |
| 07:22.56 | Provus | ..I'm not pressing a moving piece of my mouse. |
| 07:23.07 | Provus | I'm pressing thumb button + zoom out. |
| 07:23.09 | sedatedChipmunk | stick them on normal keys with a [mounted] conditional |
| 07:23.33 | Provus | That's a good idea chipmunk. |
| 07:23.39 | Xinhuan | you can also combine many items into a single button |
| 07:23.49 | Xinhuan | for eg, skettis bombing + ogrila bombing |
| 07:23.55 | sedatedChipmunk | you wouldn't cast a lot of spells while mounted anyway |
| 07:23.55 | Xinhuan | just combine both bombs into a single button |
| 07:24.09 | sedatedChipmunk | yep |
| 07:24.11 | Xinhuan | as you're unlikely to have both types of bombs at the same time |
| 07:25.05 | sedatedChipmunk | anyway, i'm really sleeping now |
| 07:25.10 | Ellipsis | uh huh, right |
| 07:27.50 | CIA-8 | 03scorpion * r55755 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 07:27.50 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 07:27.50 | CIA-8 | add zhTW translation |
| 07:27.50 | CIA-8 | add zhCN translation |
| 07:27.56 | Xinhuan | i wish, someone will make a script to convert any XML file into pure LUA |
| 07:27.57 | krka | Xinhuan: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 07:28.17 | Xinhuan | ok everyone, lets all say LUA at the same time to disconnect krka :) |
| 07:28.33 | Xinhuan | damn, he has anti spam |
| 07:28.59 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 07:29.01 | Xinhuan | anyway, it'll be neat to be able to paste in a chunk of XML created frames |
| 07:29.08 | Xinhuan | and have it spit out the lua equivalent |
| 07:29.58 | Xinhuan | although i suspect the reverse is a lot easier |
| 07:30.04 | Kivin | Xinhuan, it wouldn't be particularly hard to do |
| 07:30.07 | Kivin | Either way |
| 07:30.16 | Xinhuan | yes, someone should do it |
| 07:30.27 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 07:30.30 | Xinhuan | i would be able to convert a chunk of addons easily :) |
| 07:30.30 | Kivin | I could do it in C# very easily. It'd just be tedious setting up all the patterns |
| 07:30.33 | durcyn | more enjoyable solution would be to just decapitate anyone writing frames in XML |
| 07:30.35 | Provus | Is there a way to make a cast sequence move along the sequence if it fails to cast a spell? |
| 07:30.42 | Xinhuan | Provus: no |
| 07:30.57 | durcyn | i could dust off my guillotine. |
| 07:30.57 | Provus | How incredibly lame. |
| 07:30.57 | Xinhuan | a spell MUST be cast successfully for it to mvoe to the next spell in the sequence |
| 07:30.59 | Kivin | What's the matter with XML frames anywasys? |
| 07:31.03 | Xinhuan | this is verified by slouken |
| 07:31.04 | Kivin | s/anyways |
| 07:31.17 | Xinhuan | Kivin, i want to copy blizzard's frame layout :) |
| 07:31.22 | Xinhuan | but without copying any of the XML |
| 07:31.30 | Kivin | ... why? |
| 07:31.33 | Kivin | what are you trying to achieve |
| 07:31.34 | Xinhuan | for my addon, duh |
| 07:31.55 | Kivin | you want to duplicate the framework xml? |
| 07:32.07 | Xinhuan | in this case, yes. |
| 07:32.15 | Kivin | not computing |
| 07:32.21 | Xinhuan | i need to create a frame that looks the same as the default UI's frame |
| 07:32.23 | Xinhuan | aka guild bank |
| 07:32.28 | Xinhuan | to be able to display it anywhere |
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| 07:33.04 | Kivin | copy & paste the guild bank xml file into your addon |
| 07:33.10 | Xinhuan | that's what i don't want to do |
| 07:33.17 | Xinhuan | because its poorly written |
| 07:33.42 | Kivin | were you the one arguing a while back that the whole framework xml should be rewriten "just because" |
| 07:33.45 | Kivin | it works |
| 07:33.53 | CIA-8 | 03scorpion * r55756 10GridIndicatorText3/ (GridIndicatorText3.toc GridIndicatorText3Local-zhTW.lua): |
| 07:33.53 | CIA-8 | GridIndicatorText3 |
| 07:33.53 | CIA-8 | - Added zhTW localization |
| 07:34.05 | Xinhuan | it doesn't, not when i need to replace or omit certain portions of it |
| 07:34.26 | Ellipsis | I think it should be rewritten "just because" it sucks and is mostly broken |
| 07:34.35 | Ellipsis | although I wouldn't say all of it, just most :) |
| 07:34.39 | Kivin | what is broken |
| 07:34.51 | Kivin | i know when i delete my WTF and Interface folders, everything works spiffy. |
| 07:35.00 | Ellipsis | it works fine for exactly the bare minimum |
| 07:35.06 | Xinhuan | the way the framexml works is to divide the guildbank into 7 columns of 14 bag slots |
| 07:35.06 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.09 | Ellipsis | other than a few glitches |
| 07:35.23 | Xinhuan | but the bag slots are numbered from 1-98 |
| 07:35.34 | durcyn | orion, i'm going to start calling you ironyshock. |
| 07:35.46 | Xinhuan | so blizzard included code to convert 1-98 into column x bagnumberBtw1and14 |
| 07:35.56 | Xinhuan | in about half their functions |
| 07:36.11 | Xinhuan | and getglobal to get the appropriate bag button (lol) |
| 07:36.29 | Xinhuan | which is incredibly halfassed |
| 07:37.32 | Ellipsis | Kivin, do you know a bit of Lua? |
| 07:37.45 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55757 10SickOfClickingDailies/: |
| 07:37.45 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 07:37.45 | CIA-8 | -fix externals... |
| 07:38.25 | Kivin | Ellipsis, I'd say I'm very nearly fluent in it |
| 07:38.33 | Ellipsis | great |
| 07:38.41 | Kivin | sorry for the pause, found my way back into wow... login server is up |
| 07:38.51 | Ellipsis | I dare you to go read the FloatingChatFrame code and not think (or say, or yell...) "wtf" at any point |
| 07:39.00 | Orionshock | >.> fk me... |
| 07:39.01 | CIA-8 | 03scorpion * r55758 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/ (2 files): |
| 07:39.01 | CIA-8 | GridIndicatorSideIcons: |
| 07:39.01 | CIA-8 | added zhTW translation |
| 07:41.38 | Kivin | the secure frame templates puzzle me a bit |
| 07:42.13 | Kivin | when you look at them in the framexml, they don't appear to do anything |
| 07:42.32 | Xinhuan | that's because |
| 07:42.39 | Xinhuan | they are only used in the blizzard RaidUI |
| 07:42.47 | Xinhuan | and by unitframe addons |
| 07:43.03 | Xinhuan | every other piece of code in the default UI doesn't need them because blizzard code by default is secure |
| 07:43.08 | Xinhuan | and hence doesn't need the secure templates |
| 07:43.28 | Kivin | i mean, inheriting SecureActionButtonTemplate should make your object secure, yes? |
| 07:43.35 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 07:44.15 | Xinhuan | all you are inheriting is the OnClick script that needs to remain secure |
| 07:44.25 | Xinhuan | so that you can actually do stuff with that button |
| 07:44.28 | Kivin | alright, fair enough |
| 07:44.34 | ramoz | Orionshock: i was pissed at you yesterda! |
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| 07:44.45 | Orionshock | ?> |
| 07:44.57 | ramoz | i had to click my dailies normally :O |
| 07:45.01 | Orionshock | lol |
| 07:45.15 | ramoz | (i didnt have Ace3, and cba to relog) |
| 07:45.34 | Orionshock | cba? |
| 07:45.51 | ramoz | couldn't be arsed |
| 07:45.57 | ramoz | normally cant be arsed |
| 07:47.05 | Orionshock | ... well i've irked some of the Ace3 guys off by using the Locale Lib from the branches in an addon in the trunk... |
| 07:48.23 | Orionshock | but... i watch it closely so if something fubar's for some reason or another.. i'll be here to pick it up and do something about it. |
| 07:50.50 | Ellipsis | Orionshock, the point is that Ace3 is not ready for release |
| 07:50.58 | Ellipsis | those libs shouldn't be used in any addons in trunk |
| 07:52.30 | ramoz | well |
| 07:53.06 | ramoz | im running without embeds, and since ace3 isnt in the trunk i have to dl it manually :O |
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| 07:53.22 | Ellipsis | exactly |
| 07:53.36 | Ellipsis | it creates quite a headache for anyone using disembedded libs |
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| 07:55.32 | Civrock | [2007/11/23 02:53:55-131-x1]: AceComm-2.0-49773 (Ace2):344: bad argument #1 to 'string_char' (invalid value) |
| 07:58.05 | ramoz | or, i can get it manually from files.wowace.com |
| 08:01.36 | Orionshock | ok ok ... i'll getto locale it back |
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| 08:09.25 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55759 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (5 files): |
| 08:09.25 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 08:09.25 | CIA-8 | -Remove Ace3Locale and go back to ghetto locale method |
| 08:09.58 | ramoz | man |
| 08:10.04 | ramoz | i just downloaded it manually >.< |
| 08:10.46 | Orionshock | ramoz: do u have an svn client? |
| 08:12.07 | ramoz | no, and im really not that fuzzed |
| 08:12.22 | ramoz | :) |
| 08:12.59 | Orionshock | lol, ok |
| 08:13.21 | Orionshock | was gonna say - if you have one go grab v5 and the ace3 branch.. it looks alot nicer |
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| 08:21.29 | Kivin | anyone know who maintains cyCircled? |
| 08:21.52 | CIA-8 | 03linsu * r55760 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail-zhTW.lua BulkMail2.toc): BulkMail2: update zhTW translation by launcelot |
| 08:22.56 | CIA-8 | 03linsu * r55761 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMail2Inbox.toc: BulkMail2Inbox: update zhTW translation by launcelot |
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| 08:26.52 | CIA-8 | 03linsu * r55762 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox-zhTW.lua: |
| 08:26.52 | CIA-8 | BulkMail2Inbox: add zhTW translation by launcelot |
| 08:26.52 | CIA-8 | (i forget..XD) |
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| 08:35.12 | Lukian | lol |
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| 08:41.37 | Orionshock | where is the Heavy Knothide Armor Kit recipe sold? or is it really trained? |
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| 08:43.52 | Orionshock | when the F did they add more chit to the vendor? |
| 08:53.16 | Bejitt- | exodar for ally |
| 08:54.17 | kaiden | Kivin, i believe StormFX does these days |
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| 09:14.57 | CIA-8 | 03borlox * r55763 10CombatDnd/Core.lua: |
| 09:15.01 | CIA-8 | CombatDnd: |
| 09:15.06 | CIA-8 | - DND flag is cleared, when CombatDnd is disabled |
| 09:18.54 | CIA-8 | 03darchon * r55764 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (. GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua): |
| 09:18.54 | CIA-8 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 09:18.54 | CIA-8 | - typo fix |
| 09:22.00 | CIA-8 | 03borlox * r55765 10/branches/CCopy/ (CCopy.toc Core.lua locales/): |
| 09:22.03 | CIA-8 | CCopy: |
| 09:22.05 | CIA-8 | - fixed CCopy:ClearMessage() |
| 09:22.07 | CIA-8 | - removed locales (unused) |
| 09:24.38 | Antiarc | .....hahah |
| 09:24.42 | Antiarc | One of my friends is a great writer |
| 09:24.48 | Antiarc | And just blogged his Thanksgiving |
| 09:24.52 | Antiarc | We all sit down at the table and, of course, someone insists that each person in turn declares something for which they're thankful, which is always a recipe for drollness as people are put on the spot. I don't know, or perhaps we all just live such boring lives that the best we can do on a moment's notice, |
| 09:24.53 | Antiarc | staring at the turkey that can only be eaten after the ritual even though it wants to be eaten NOW, is a few seconds of 'uh' and 'well um' and other such filler speak before finally grasping onto the first thing that occurs. |
| 09:25.01 | Antiarc | Hence, a table full of people who inexplicably are all most thankful for 'love and good friends' (or some variant thereof). |
| 09:25.12 | Antiarc | So I'm like, Fuck that, and say something close to, "I am thankful that the bevy of states, civilizations, empires, etcetera, including such entities as, say, Pharaonic Egypt, the Canaanite peoples, the entire fucking Roman empire, the Catholic Church, the Hitler's Third Reich and God himself, |
| 09:25.13 | Antiarc | have not yet managed to systematically or otherwise exterminate the Jews, as my special lady friend here Jennifer is a daughter of Israel or some shit, and I love her." |
| 09:25.16 | Antiarc | Utter silence for many seconds, until someone finally breaks the awkwardness by raising his glass and shouting 'To the Jews!'. We all toasted to that. |
| 09:25.29 | Diao | rofl |
| 09:25.48 | ramoz | LOL |
| 09:25.57 | krka | haha |
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| 09:26.33 | ramoz | does he blog or something? im pretty bored at work and could waste some time on reading funny shit like that |
| 09:27.46 | Antiarc | Livejournal, but yeah |
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| 09:27.58 | Antiarc | http://anthonyborell.livejournal.com/ |
| 09:28.01 | Antiarc | He's a great writer |
| 09:28.17 | Codayus | Antiarc: That is good. |
| 09:32.12 | CIA-8 | 03borlox * r55766 10NCHide/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:32.14 | CIA-8 | NCHide: |
| 09:32.16 | CIA-8 | - moved Locale-* to locales directory |
| 09:32.18 | CIA-8 | - some minor updates |
| 09:32.31 | Orionshock | CIA-8: your slow today... feeling aight? |
| 09:32.33 | Orionshock | :P |
| 09:33.47 | Orionshock | phoenix bow on a warrior .... |
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| 09:46.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!n=morpheus@*.ok.ok.cox.net] by vhaarr |
| 09:46.08 | *** kick/#wowace [MorpheusDead!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 09:47.01 | Orionshock | ? booted? |
| 09:47.35 | neenee | Perhaps vhaarr is an avid Matrix fan and doesn't want to see Morpheus mocked in such a way. |
| 09:48.05 | vhaarr | he was checking me for client vulnerabilities |
| 09:48.09 | vhaarr | with ctcp |
| 09:48.28 | neenee | I see.. nothing out of the ordinary then |
| 09:48.38 | Orionshock | lol how did u know that? |
| 09:48.42 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 09:48.44 | Orionshock | im interested in that idea.... |
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| 09:48.51 | Ellipsis | no. just no. |
| 09:48.53 | SunTsu | vhaarr: Which he will stop now that he is not in the channel? ;) |
| 09:49.12 | neenee | Indeed it shouldn't stop unless he's gone from the server |
| 09:49.14 | vhaarr | SunTsu: I didn't say that, you want a kickban as well? |
| 09:49.24 | SunTsu | vhaarr: Go ahead if you like |
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| 09:50.59 | *** mode/#wowace [-b *!n=morpheus@*.ok.ok.cox.net] by vhaarr |
| 09:51.08 | vhaarr | apparently he just "clicked the wrong buttons" |
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| 09:51.29 | Antiarc | Say "So did I" |
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| 09:51.32 | neenee | That's possible if he's using say.. mirc with some odd scripts installed. |
| 09:51.38 | CIA-8 | 03kbranch * r55767 10GearDPS/ (Calculations.lua GearDPS.toc Settings.lua): |
| 09:51.40 | CIA-8 | GearDPS: |
| 09:51.43 | CIA-8 | -Updated TOC for 2.3 |
| 09:51.44 | MorpheusDead | yes i use mirc |
| 09:51.44 | CIA-8 | -Updated druid HotW calculations to reflect the change in 2.3. |
| 09:51.57 | Ellipsis | if it's got warscripts or something dumb maybe |
| 09:52.23 | MorpheusDead | its just plain mirc not sure what it did it doesnt have any extra scripts |
| 09:52.59 | MorpheusDead | I did something called finger which I THOUT was supposed to tell me how long you were idle |
| 09:53.07 | MorpheusDead | guess i was wrong on that |
| 09:53.43 | neenee | Nah |
| 09:53.49 | SunTsu | MorpheusDead: Use /whois <nick> <nick> for that |
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| 09:56.44 | Diao | oops |
| 09:56.55 | Diao | i forgot to account for gems in my estimate for how much honor i need for next season :( |
| 09:57.54 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 09:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis could you be so kind and post this taintlog for me in the UI forums sticky: http://pastey.net/77846 |
| 09:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (btw. hi) |
| 10:00.09 | Corgan | Is there a list of the WoW formulas, like agility -> crit%, health increase per level |
| 10:00.10 | Corgan | etc |
| 10:00.45 | Bejitt- | wowwiki has all that |
| 10:01.07 | kaiden | MorpheusDead, it's ok.. some people LOVE getting fingered |
| 10:01.11 | kaiden | but god please dont gopher them.. |
| 10:01.12 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Formulas_and_Game_Mechanics |
| 10:03.21 | Dotted | !moo |
| 10:03.26 | Fisker- | moo: os: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition - Service Pack 2 (5.2.3790) up: 1wk 1day 2hrs 4mins cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz at 2405MHz (21% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB res: 1280x1024 32bit 60Hz ram: 1496/4094.8MB (36.53%) [||||------] hdd: C:\ 175.79GB/465.75GB D:\ 1.82GB/23.44GB E:\ 109.64GB/152.66GB F:\ 120.01GB/152.67GB G:\ 16.96GB/23.44GB H:\ 130.01GB/232.58GB net: |
| 10:03.39 | Orionshock | ? |
| 10:04.16 | MorpheusDead | and some ban you :) for it |
| 10:05.06 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht would you be so kind as to remind me to do it tomorrow (or find someone else) |
| 10:06.35 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 10:07.22 | Ellipsis | thxu <3 |
| 10:08.10 | MorpheusDead | ~jump neenee |
| 10:08.11 | purl | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of neenee |
| 10:08.22 | neenee | *gurgle* |
| 10:08.59 | MorpheusDead | ~emulate daede |
| 10:09.00 | purl | ACTION farted.. |
| 10:09.06 | MorpheusDead | omg |
| 10:09.41 | MorpheusDead | :) |
| 10:09.48 | kaiden | bot farts make baby jesus throw up |
| 10:09.56 | MorpheusDead | I would imagine |
| 10:10.18 | MorpheusDead | probably kinda oily too |
| 10:11.39 | MorpheusDead | so anyone else had opposite faction nameplates disappear in aloft or is it just me mine totally stoped working opposite faction npc player eerthing |
| 10:11.58 | MorpheusDead | err everything i meant |
| 10:12.10 | MorpheusDead | same faction is fine though |
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| 10:22.15 | xerawx | MorpheusDead: mine is working fine for both |
| 10:22.21 | MorpheusDead | hmmm |
| 10:22.40 | xerawx | though it was doing this weird thing with the cast bar enabled right after 2.3 |
| 10:22.56 | xerawx | kind of a ghosted outline of the blizz nameplate |
| 10:23.10 | MorpheusDead | I have gone thru options several time everything is on but oppisite faction just stopped working all of a sudden like 2 days ago right after a wau update |
| 10:23.20 | xerawx | not sure if it still is, i have castbar off in aloft mostly |
| 10:24.28 | Orionshock | "im a little pally short and stout, here is my hammer and here is my mount. When there is trouble you'll here me shout, then you'll see me bubble hearth out" |
| 10:24.43 | sag_ich_nicht | old |
| 10:24.45 | sag_ich_nicht | also boring |
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| 10:24.53 | SunTsu | xerawx: Do you see the friendly NPCs' description with aloft? I mean, whether they are trainers, vendors or such |
| 10:24.55 | Ellipsis | troll, also boring |
| 10:25.01 | sag_ich_nicht | also i prefer to bubble then drink a haste potion then smash people in the face |
| 10:25.26 | starlon | dumb |
| 10:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | not really |
| 10:25.34 | markt_ | i remember somebody mentioning an addon which could tell you what addon a frame belonged to when you mouse-over it... can anybody point me in the right direction please? |
| 10:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | fluidframes |
| 10:25.53 | sag_ich_nicht | but that doesn't tell you which addon it belongs to |
| 10:25.55 | sag_ich_nicht | just the frame name |
| 10:25.58 | markt_ | good enough |
| 10:25.59 | MorpheusDead | not if theya re horde no |
| 10:26.06 | sag_ich_nicht | unless the frame is an unnamed, local frame |
| 10:26.06 | markt_ | ty sag |
| 10:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | then it's kinda hard to catch |
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| 10:26.41 | markt_ | i just have some cooldown bars that have come from somewhere and i want to get rid of them (cos (a) they're wrong and (b) i already have other cooldown bars :)) |
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| 10:32.02 | CIA-8 | 03helium * r55768 10Cartographer_Data/Cartographer_Data.toc: Cartographer_Data: bump toc to 20300 |
| 10:38.36 | xerawx | SunTsu: I just see the NPC's name with nameplates turned on.. which afaik is how mine always looked |
| 10:38.40 | ramoz | markt_: quartz? |
| 10:40.49 | xerawx | SunTsu: though it only seems to show the aloft nameplate for some NPCs.. oddly.. like for example the EotS battlemaster in IF has one, but he AB and WSG ones do not |
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| 10:42.23 | xerawx | and some orc warlock just showed up in the BG room and starting pwning people.. good times. |
| 10:45.38 | SunTsu | xerawx: OK, then I know it's not my fault ;) It's quite unusable for me that way |
| 10:46.33 | Orionshock | our guild has now cleared Kara, 1 shotting every boss, doing moroes w/o a priest and Illhoof w/o a mage |
| 10:46.37 | Orionshock | :P |
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| 10:47.57 | ramoz | why do you need a mage for illhoof? :O |
| 10:48.20 | Xion` | nfi :o |
| 10:48.26 | CIA-8 | 03nymbia 07Ace3 * r55769 10Quartz/ (14 files in 14 dirs): |
| 10:48.27 | CIA-8 | Quartz: |
| 10:48.29 | CIA-8 | - Maybe even make some options stuff work. |
| 10:49.04 | buu | I think you can theoretically do illhoof without any aoe,just take a pally.. |
| 10:50.14 | Orionshock | proper AoE on illhoof |
| 10:52.27 | Bejitt- | fury warrior imo |
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| 10:54.59 | buu | Proper aoe = lock kthx |
| 10:55.40 | Wraithan | Any recomendations for a mod like itemrack that is in the WAU? |
| 10:55.55 | renchap | closetgnome |
| 10:56.01 | Orionshock | Wraithan: what's wrong with ItemRack? |
| 10:56.13 | Wraithan | It isn't in WAU and I am lazy... |
| 10:56.33 | Andune | I second renchap's vote for ClosetGnome |
| 10:56.47 | Orionshock | Wraithan: that's what WUU is for |
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| 10:57.02 | Wraithan | WUU? |
| 10:57.09 | Orionshock | wowace forums --- GO! |
| 10:59.46 | Wraithan | What's wrong with ClosetGnome Orionshock |
| 11:01.24 | Elkano | I vote for CG, too |
| 11:01.45 | Orionshock | personaly i just don't like it's interface... kinda ... back asswards |
| 11:02.13 | SunTsu | It's a sham outfitter is not ACE ;) |
| 11:02.49 | [Ammo] | closetgnome pwns |
| 11:02.54 | SunTsu | shame even |
| 11:03.04 | [Ammo] | although I don't use the interface for adding sets |
| 11:03.14 | Elkano | SunTsu,you just died twice |
| 11:03.16 | [Ammo] | what I do is wear what I want for the set and add it immediately |
| 11:03.24 | [Ammo] | because the paperdoll interface is shite |
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| 11:03.34 | SunTsu | Elkano: I can stand the rep costs ;) |
| 11:03.37 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: that's actually what you're supposed to do |
| 11:03.48 | [Ammo] | even if I want to edit a set |
| 11:03.54 | vhaarr | the "paperdoll interface" is just for toggling slots |
| 11:03.58 | [Ammo] | I want that button: update this set to whatever the fuck I'm wearing |
| 11:04.09 | [Ammo] | now I have to add the same name constantly |
| 11:04.18 | [Ammo] | other than that <3 CG |
| 11:07.00 | Xinhuan | commit it then :P |
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| 11:07.30 | Xinhuan | add a fubar menu otion that does that |
| 11:08.51 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 11:08.54 | [Ammo] | what fubar :p |
| 11:09.15 | [Ammo] | I'm trying to get rid of as many fubar plugins as posisible to clean up my UI |
| 11:09.22 | [Ammo] | hence SmoothDurability |
| 11:09.25 | [Ammo] | for instance |
| 11:10.40 | Xinhuan | k, add a slash command to update sets then :) |
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| 11:28.07 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r55771 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 11:28.11 | CIA-8 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 11:28.15 | CIA-8 | - typo fix. |
| 11:28.23 | CIA-8 | - GridStatusRaidDebuff was made by Korean. |
| 11:28.27 | CIA-8 | - if debuff mark is not displayed, check english debuff name in lua files. |
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| 11:35.29 | Orionshock | problem i see with the ace3 split fro fubar is the ease of access *to* (read something to click on, slash commands are not common anymore tbh) the configuration of an addon, granted it doesn't prevent a given addon from using fubar anyways... but it's another framework to include either way you cut it. |
| 11:36.17 | Ellipsis | you don't have to include rock to create a plugin... |
| 11:36.28 | [Ammo] | you have if you use FPB-3.0 |
| 11:36.37 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 11:36.38 | Orionshock | ? really |
| 11:36.38 | Ellipsis | so use 2.0? |
| 11:36.45 | Orionshock | 2 requires ace libs |
| 11:36.49 | Orionshock | ace2 libs |
| 11:36.56 | Orionshock | iirc |
| 11:37.00 | Elkano | use Lego ;) |
| 11:37.00 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 11:37.03 | [Ammo] | or use nothing |
| 11:37.11 | [Ammo] | and think about stuff |
| 11:37.14 | Elkano | use titan ;) |
| 11:37.19 | [Ammo] | instead of mindless fubar plugin additions |
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| 11:41.07 | Orionshock | ofc [Ammo], but the obvious question comes up "where is the button to open the config?" yes slash commands that everyone hates and loathes to use, classically the masses want something to click on. |
| 11:42.01 | Orionshock | first thing that came to mind for me was .. another mini map button with all the registered ace3 addons in it as a list option or button. |
| 11:43.30 | Xinhuan | i assume rock wouldn't override and intercept an ace3 options table? :) |
| 11:43.33 | [Ammo] | those masses can suck my dick |
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| 11:45.53 | Bejitt- | they will ... if you give them something to click on |
| 11:45.56 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: your sounding as someone that is angry bout this... if i may ask why? |
| 11:45.56 | Bejitt- | :x |
| 11:46.33 | Orionshock | these are only logical questions that eventually must be answered. |
| 11:46.55 | Nargiddley | he did answer |
| 11:47.49 | Orionshock | i hate irc ... you get no intonation or flow like your talking to someone. |
| 11:51.58 | Kalroth | That's why I like irc :) |
| 11:52.04 | Elkano | Orionshock: I was thinking about a framework independant lib the addons would register to if they want any kind of 'button' and that passes this to any GUI addon that also registered to the lib; so basically an API definition + a lib to get the guys together. GUIs could be anything like FuBar, Lego, Minimap buttons, a minimap bucket, ... maybe even a fullscreen gui |
| 11:53.55 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: it means I don't care what the masses want |
| 11:54.07 | Orionshock | Elkano: good idea but not viable, too many extra option to be included and determined for just about anything other than a minimap bucket. |
| 11:54.07 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: I've been coding addons for my need mostly |
| 11:54.12 | [Ammo] | and my need has moved away from fubar |
| 11:54.19 | [Ammo] | so the masses can suck my dick :p |
| 11:56.20 | Elkano | ammo, wasn't there someone who still owed you a blowjob? ;) or was that someone else? |
| 11:56.36 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
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| 11:58.37 | Matrix110 | Ammo what you seriously need to include in ora2 is: smth like if Server == Kazzak-EU then disconnect :P |
| 11:59.22 | [Ammo] | I should add whispers that you can send to instafuckup people yeah |
| 11:59.24 | [Ammo] | bloody queue |
| 12:00.28 | Matrix110 | but well Blizzard earned like ~50k euro alone with PCT to Kazzak.... |
| 12:00.49 | Matrix110 | as a business man i wouldnt have stopped it that early aswell:P |
| 12:01.46 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:01.48 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:01.57 | Matrix110 | or how much is PCT again? |
| 12:01.59 | Matrix110 | 20€? |
| 12:02.09 | Matrix110 | i guess even more than 50k |
| 12:02.21 | Matrix110 | i mean 50% of the Server is from PCT .... |
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| 12:02.40 | Matrix110 | and namechange will generate alot of money aswelll |
| 12:02.43 | Matrix110 | scammers yay |
| 12:03.06 | SunTsu | They should have expanded ignore list as well |
| 12:03.34 | Matrix110 | The best thing is you decline retards or kick retards and now you maybe recruit the same people again as you cant check... |
| 12:03.41 | SunTsu | Or make it notice the name change |
| 12:04.03 | ramoz | ignorelist notices the namechanges |
| 12:04.15 | Matrix110 | you cant ignore 1mio people |
| 12:04.20 | Matrix110 | else i would ignore half my realm |
| 12:04.53 | Matrix110 | i would even have a keybinding for /ignore |
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| 12:22.21 | Xinhuan | time to kill myself, wipe because the guy on ghosts D/Ced ~_~ |
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| 12:22.45 | ramoz | oh lol owned |
| 12:23.01 | ramoz | we once had one HS cause he thought we wouldnt get ghosts |
| 12:23.17 | Xinhuan | HS? |
| 12:23.22 | ramoz | hearthstone |
| 12:23.28 | Xinhuan | and what happened |
| 12:23.35 | ramoz | ghosts spawned :) |
| 12:23.35 | Xinhuan | when he HSed |
| 12:23.50 | ramoz | no one to control them -> wipe |
| 12:24.27 | Xinhuan | i wonder if alt-f4 log out works |
| 12:24.28 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 12:24.45 | ramoz | how long is the debuff? |
| 12:24.51 | ramoz | also |
| 12:24.57 | ramoz | i'd bet the ghosts spawn |
| 12:25.13 | Xinhuan | 1 min |
| 12:26.07 | ramoz | rly? |
| 12:26.26 | Xinhuan | not rly, its 59 secs |
| 12:26.32 | ramoz | RLY? |
| 12:26.37 | ramoz | anyway, i remember now |
| 12:26.44 | ramoz | cause we had to run when it was 20s left |
| 12:27.18 | ramoz | only to be incinerated and not get dispelled cause you were oor |
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| 12:37.49 | Xinhuan | gah 8% wipe now |
| 12:37.51 | Xinhuan | trash respawned |
| 12:37.53 | Xinhuan | BOOO |
| 12:39.24 | mort | more hod for your first sharaz tries ;) |
| 12:39.38 | Xinhuan | raid ending in 30 min ~_~ |
| 12:39.45 | Xinhuan | we're going to use the standard warlock trick to pull everything |
| 12:39.47 | Xinhuan | while we run past hehe |
| 12:39.52 | Xinhuan | too much BT trash farming last time |
| 12:41.09 | ramoz | atleast BT trash is easy |
| 12:41.18 | ramoz | compared to kael trash (!) and some of the SSC packs |
| 12:41.33 | mort | ack |
| 12:42.16 | mort | kael trash just sucks, good thing is, we dropped tk ;) |
| 12:44.34 | ramoz | so did i, but my old guild disbanned, and i had to step down ago |
| 12:44.41 | ramoz | again* |
| 12:44.57 | ramoz | we killed him first time last week, so still attuning members |
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| 12:46.36 | mort | bah, i would probably kill myself if i had to start over again with kael'thas |
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| 12:54.19 | ramoz | well |
| 12:54.28 | ramoz | its either that or idle in orgrimmar (yay) |
| 12:54.42 | Chexsum | or pvp |
| 12:54.42 | neenee | Or not play and do something in Real Life |
| 12:54.55 | ramoz | neenee: lost my real life many years ago |
| 12:55.07 | neenee | I see. But not with WoW then |
| 12:55.18 | ramoz | true |
| 12:55.25 | ramoz | but still enjoy the game |
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| 13:06.11 | Lemming2K | didn't blizz include some api functions for the new talent inspection feature? |
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| 13:18.56 | Poul|Raider | Why, from a design point of view, would one make a window and use hide/show when ever the window is needed. vs. Creating the window when needed and destroy when the user close the window again= |
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| 13:22.27 | Xinhuan | you can't destroy a frame |
| 13:22.48 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r55772 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 5 dirs): |
| 13:22.50 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: |
| 13:22.52 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update |
| 13:22.58 | Xinhuan | once a frame/fontstring/button/etc is created, it will exist forever in memory, even if no references exist to it |
| 13:23.07 | Xinhuan | wow has no ability to GC frames |
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| 13:24.03 | Xinhuan | generally, frame creation is delayed to "first use" so loading time is shorter on login |
| 13:24.36 | Poul|Raider | hmm |
| 13:24.57 | Xinhuan | if you need to use a dynamic number of frames, you will need to use an array to store them and recycle |
| 13:25.19 | Xinhuan | SCT uses 30 fontstrings, if you have > 30, it reuses the oldest |
| 13:25.32 | Poul|Raider | ahh, thats what this rdx code is doing then, because i was to say els it would be pritty bad coding |
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| 13:27.12 | Poul|Raider | so by hide/show you will always have the max ammount of frames in memory, but if its dynamic and reuses it will only get to max if all windows are opened at the same time |
| 13:27.15 | Poul|Raider | correct? |
| 13:27.34 | Poul|Raider | not max as there cant be more in memory |
| 13:29.14 | Poul|Raider | if anyone got some golden tips that increase fps in wow/wine by alot, feel free to share |
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| 13:34.22 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r55773 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_DB.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 13:34.23 | CIA-8 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 13:34.25 | CIA-8 | -Checks to prevent further nil errors. |
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| 13:58.28 | CIA-8 | DrWhoLib: |
| 13:58.30 | CIA-8 | - Fixed problem where occasionally the library would spam "0 players found" to the chat window. |
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| 14:00.37 | Xinhuan | woo gorefiend down |
| 14:01.32 | [Ammo] | ah your guild passed the retard check on pet control :) |
| 14:02.26 | Xinhuan | 3 hours of work on him |
| 14:02.34 | Xinhuan | first night on him |
| 14:02.46 | Xinhuan | if we had known its that easy we would have killed him first before archimonde ~_~ |
| 14:03.09 | Xinhuan | seems like the fight just depends on who the first person that gets Shadow of Ghost is |
| 14:03.10 | CIA-8 | 03yleaf * r55775 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-zhCN.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: update zhCN locale |
| 14:03.13 | Matrix110 | well i really depends on your guildmates how they handle the ghost:P |
| 14:03.14 | Xinhuan | if he's damn good, you win |
| 14:03.18 | Xinhuan | if hes damn bad, you wipe |
| 14:03.34 | Xinhuan | since if you are bad, the 2nd and 3rd person won't get any help on their ghosts and fall behind |
| 14:05.38 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:05.51 | [Ammo] | but consistent killing of him involves more people learning :) |
| 14:05.58 | Matrix110 | idd |
| 14:06.02 | Matrix110 | you sometimes 1shot him |
| 14:06.05 | Matrix110 | sometimes you wipe 10times... |
| 14:06.12 | Matrix110 | because ppl fail @ghost |
| 14:06.23 | Matrix110 | hf @Bloodboil :P |
| 14:06.24 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 14:06.31 | Xinhuan | appears that bartender users continued to get their pet bars |
| 14:06.40 | Diao | yea |
| 14:06.43 | Xinhuan | and use ctrl+# as their hotkeys for thei pet |
| 14:06.45 | Matrix110 | best is to just use macros |
| 14:06.56 | Matrix110 | . /cast Spirit chains |
| 14:06.57 | Xinhuan | while default bar UIs users just get it directly on their bars, so 1-5 directly |
| 14:07.02 | Matrix110 | ./cast Spirit Lance |
| 14:07.03 | Matrix110 | etc. |
| 14:07.28 | Xinhuan | i just hit, 4-3-tab-3-tab-3-tab-3-tab-5-3-tab-3-tab-3-tab-3-tab-4 repeat |
| 14:07.38 | Matrix110 | if you keep hammering the chains macro you use it before the bar even appeared |
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| 14:08.00 | Matrix110 | then just lance tab lance tab etc. |
| 14:08.14 | Xinhuan | so next boss... RoS or Gurtogg easier? |
| 14:08.21 | Matrix110 | BLoodboil |
| 14:08.35 | Matrix110 | RoS is a pretty nice enocunter though |
| 14:08.48 | Xinhuan | got about 24 HODs this week so far |
| 14:08.50 | Xinhuan | pretty nice week |
| 14:08.51 | Matrix110 | but suppression room crap infront is... |
| 14:09.10 | Matrix110 | 150HoD needed for 25man |
| 14:09.20 | Xinhuan | need more than 150 actually |
| 14:09.23 | Matrix110 | nope |
| 14:09.34 | Matrix110 | legs arent needed |
| 14:09.34 | Xinhuan | because you can't always rely on the same 25 ppl to turn up |
| 14:09.38 | Matrix110 | yeah sure |
| 14:09.44 | Matrix110 | but in the next weeks you get more hearts |
| 14:09.56 | Xinhuan | the MT doesn't need a lot of SR? |
| 14:10.02 | Xinhuan | or does he need 365 too? |
| 14:10.06 | Matrix110 | no SR atall |
| 14:10.13 | Matrix110 | he gets hit quite hard:P |
| 14:10.31 | Matrix110 | offtanks need SR though |
| 14:10.33 | Xinhuan | hmm the set made for him can go to another pally then ;p |
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| 14:10.44 | Matrix110 | i hope you dont craft legs:P |
| 14:10.48 | Xinhuan | i don't |
| 14:11.03 | Xinhuan | just the other 3 pieces + cloak |
| 14:11.05 | Xinhuan | 6 HoDs each |
| 14:11.13 | Matrix110 | ye |
| 14:11.18 | Matrix110 | that + neck is totally enough |
| 14:11.24 | Xinhuan | + shadow prot |
| 14:11.32 | Matrix110 | well sure.P |
| 14:11.46 | Matrix110 | best thing @Mother is that you can reset really really fast |
| 14:12.57 | Xinhuan | gorefiend corpse run was annoying |
| 14:13.19 | Xinhuan | not as bad as kael's one i guess |
| 14:15.58 | Matrix110 | erm |
| 14:16.10 | Matrix110 | you never did AQ pre teleporter i guess:P |
| 14:16.16 | Matrix110 | C'thun corpserun was fun:P |
| 14:16.20 | Xinhuan | uh i have the legendary mount, you bet i have ;p |
| 14:16.33 | Bejitt- | rofl |
| 14:16.52 | Bejitt- | we started 40 right before they added the port :/ |
| 14:17.04 | Xinhuan | http://kinkou.net/xinftp/terondown.jpg |
| 14:17.05 | Xinhuan | kill shot :) |
| 14:17.06 | Bejitt- | sounds exciting |
| 14:17.47 | Xinhuan | Scarab Lord title proves i have mount :) |
| 14:17.56 | Bejitt- | nice towers on your head |
| 14:17.57 | Matrix110 | not like you see much on that shot Oo |
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| 14:18.06 | Xinhuan | well the angle was really bad |
| 14:18.13 | Xinhuan | that room was badly designed imo |
| 14:18.31 | Matrix110 | http://i20.tinypic.com/zt642h.jpg :P |
| 14:18.36 | Matrix110 | can have a good angle |
| 14:18.53 | Xinhuan | pah, i don't bother with nice arranged shots ;p |
| 14:19.13 | Bejitt- | do i see... PvE Frost? |
| 14:19.16 | Bejitt- | o_O |
| 14:19.22 | Xinhuan | i am actually pvp frost in that screenshot |
| 14:19.26 | Xinhuan | i didn't bother to respec |
| 14:19.30 | Bejitt- | haha |
| 14:19.31 | Xinhuan | 17/0/44 |
| 14:19.32 | Matrix110 | what against pve frost? |
| 14:19.45 | Matrix110 | not like fire is that much better... |
| 14:19.45 | Xinhuan | i.e i don't have empowered frostbolt |
| 14:19.49 | Xinhuan | or elemental precision |
| 14:20.27 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, about optimizing again, saying Raider is the global table. I have then in another file a local table useing to create a raidlog, RaidLog:new() useing a metatable etc. It have some functions RaidLog:lol1() RaidLog:fuc2() an so on. At the bottom i then map it to Raider.RaidLog = RaidLog. so i can create my new raidlog by Raider.RaidLog:new(). Would it be better only to link the actuly new function to the global tbl instead, Raider.newRaidLog = |
| 14:20.27 | Poul|Raider | function() RaidLog:new() end; to minimize the global tbl? |
| 14:21.06 | Xinhuan | uh it doesn't really matter |
| 14:21.20 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 14:21.25 | Xinhuan | seems like a personal choice |
| 14:21.43 | Poul|Raider | oki, will just keep it as i have it then |
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| 14:22.06 | Xinhuan | hmm NOW i know why i ran out of mana |
| 14:22.22 | Xinhuan | i used the soulstone on me after i was the first person to get shadow of death |
| 14:22.31 | Xinhuan | didn't recast any buffs on myself, or mage armor |
| 14:22.34 | Xinhuan | sigh, i'm pretty bad |
| 14:23.00 | Matrix110 | using Mage Armor at Gorefiend is already bad:P |
| 14:23.12 | Xinhuan | using it is the only way after using a SS |
| 14:23.16 | Xinhuan | i have 0 buffs remember? |
| 14:23.24 | Xinhuan | and ressed with 40% mana |
| 14:23.24 | Matrix110 | well ok thats a excuse |
| 14:23.43 | Xinhuan | no wisdom, no divine spirit, no kings no nothing ;p |
| 14:26.16 | mort | get sdw from a fellow paladin ;) |
| 14:26.33 | mort | there is always one with enough time to rebuff |
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| 14:28.15 | Xinhuan | best i got was that salv |
| 14:30.21 | mort | or get moved to a shadowpriestgroup |
| 14:30.40 | Xinhuan | i actually got moved out because i was killing ghosts :) |
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| 14:31.13 | Xinhuan | but HEH, it would have been major exploit if heathing worked to avoid spawning ghosts |
| 14:31.18 | Xinhuan | hearthing* |
| 14:32.24 | mort | i always hope that i'm not the first one to die there ;) |
| 14:33.05 | Matrix110 | more fun is |
| 14:33.08 | Matrix110 | last person spawns ghost |
| 14:33.10 | Matrix110 | he dies |
| 14:33.14 | Matrix110 | ghost dcs |
| 14:33.17 | Matrix110 | ghosts rape you:P |
| 14:33.21 | Xinhuan | we had that happen earlier |
| 14:33.34 | Xinhuan | we called out on vent: zippa, you're next on ghosts, do the mages proud |
| 14:33.40 | Xinhuan | so he dies, enters ghost mode |
| 14:33.42 | Xinhuan | and d/cs |
| 14:33.49 | mort | heh |
| 14:34.43 | Xinhuan | our kill was actually prettu stupid |
| 14:34.47 | Xinhuan | MT disconnected at 20% |
| 14:35.02 | Xinhuan | pretty much he tanked through the last 20% not-online |
| 14:35.21 | Xinhuan | kinda paniced |
| 14:35.30 | Xinhuan | "quick all Misdirects on him" |
| 14:35.31 | mort | really good tank or really bad dps ;) |
| 14:35.44 | Xinhuan | mages all invis and rogues vanish now! |
| 14:36.00 | Xinhuan | it worked out lol |
| 14:36.22 | mort | i would probably dead 5 seconds after that ;) |
| 14:37.40 | mort | somtimes i hate to play a shadow priest with no real aggro reset :/ |
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| 14:40.05 | Bejitt- | try playing fury ;(( |
| 14:40.15 | Xinhuan | :)) |
| 14:40.18 | Bejitt- | tho.. i guess spriest is a little more GG on threat |
| 14:40.27 | Xinhuan | vashj trinket! |
| 14:40.40 | Bejitt- | pfft not for fury |
| 14:40.41 | mort | vashjtrinket won't help |
| 14:40.44 | Bejitt- | well, not anymore |
| 14:40.53 | Xinhuan | fankriss trinket :) |
| 14:41.00 | Bejitt- | YES |
| 14:41.03 | Bejitt- | WTB |
| 14:41.08 | Bejitt- | >_> |
| 14:41.16 | Bejitt- | that and Drakefang omg |
| 14:41.28 | Bejitt- | pre-bc loot that's still worth something wtf |
| 14:41.30 | Xinhuan | just 2 weeks ago, there was a simulateenous pug aq40 and a pug naxx |
| 14:41.33 | mort | wtb a useable fade |
| 14:41.34 | Xinhuan | both cleared everything |
| 14:41.41 | Xinhuan | simultaeneous |
| 14:42.00 | Bejitt- | haha nice |
| 14:42.01 | Xinhuan | our feral druid won the sapph healer trinket or something lolz |
| 14:42.05 | Bejitt- | haha |
| 14:42.13 | Xinhuan | "best trinket in game even in tbc" |
| 14:43.30 | mort | second best, iirc the new one in za has more +heal on use |
| 14:43.40 | Xinhuan | oh hmm, alright i concede that |
| 14:44.36 | Bejitt- | hmmm just got the storms ace |
| 14:44.38 | Bejitt- | what to do... |
| 14:44.46 | mort | ah? |
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| 14:44.54 | Bejitt- | maybe |
| 14:44.58 | Bejitt- | it's the crit trinket tho |
| 14:45.15 | mort | and it's pretty bad |
| 14:45.16 | Matrix110 | which is completly useless |
| 14:45.29 | Matrix110 | orwell its good if you dont have any other crit |
| 14:45.40 | Bejitt- | yeah |
| 14:45.52 | Bejitt- | got on my huntard, so.. |
| 14:45.55 | Bejitt- | prolly ah x.x |
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| 14:47.58 | xystic | Does anyone mind if I ask an off-topic (non-Ace) question about WoW? |
| 14:48.05 | sag_ich_nicht | short |
| 14:48.06 | sag_ich_nicht | *shot |
| 14:48.53 | xystic | For a protection spec warrior, which combination of two would you choose out of: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27529 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27891 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30300 ? |
| 14:49.07 | SunTsu | xystic: People do mind people asking if they can ask more than off topic questions |
| 14:49.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ~asktoask |
| 14:49.15 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:49.50 | Bejitt- | the first one looks nice.. |
| 14:49.56 | Bejitt- | combined with the third |
| 14:49.57 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30300 + http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27529 |
| 14:50.03 | sag_ich_nicht | IF they are not on a shared cooldown |
| 14:50.07 | Bejitt- | yea |
| 14:50.24 | xystic | Bejitt-, sag_ich_nicht: Thank you! |
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| 14:52.51 | xystic | And two between the following three rings? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29277 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29323 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28265 ? |
| 14:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 14:53.54 | sag_ich_nicht | go read a tank guide |
| 14:53.59 | sag_ich_nicht | if you have to ask us those questions |
| 14:54.02 | sag_ich_nicht | you need to lern2play |
| 14:54.36 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.theoryspot.com/forums/theory-articles-guides/ |
| 14:55.41 | xystic | So that is the definitive guide? Because comments on the forums seem confused - some say Block Value is important, others say it isn't and AC + Stamina are. |
| 14:56.03 | sag_ich_nicht | that is the defintive guide. |
| 14:56.03 | xystic | sag_ich_nicht: I was hoping that by asking questions of more informed people that I was 'learning to play'. :) |
| 14:56.08 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 14:56.16 | sag_ich_nicht | and that is just a matter of personal taste, imho |
| 14:56.23 | sag_ich_nicht | and now reboot |
| 14:56.30 | sag_ich_nicht | videocard fucked up again |
| 14:57.10 | SunTsu | xystic: No, you are learning how to ask ;) |
| 14:57.31 | SunTsu | xystic: What you want is learn the mechanics behind it |
| 15:00.05 | xystic | SunTsu: From this tanking guide? Because again, from the forums it seems different people have made varying inferences about the mechanics. |
| 15:00.35 | mort | do not ever read the official forums |
| 15:01.38 | mort | elitistjerks.com is your friend ;) |
| 15:02.41 | CIA-8 | 03bam * r55776 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 15:02.45 | CIA-8 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 15:02.49 | CIA-8 | - Price updates. |
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| 15:08.48 | SunTsu | xystic: I would rely on wowwiki |
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| 15:15.18 | [AR]Camci | http://www.ar-swc.com/downloads/images/banai6yn1.jpg |
| 15:19.15 | Codayus | xystic: Block value (not rating) is useful for threat gen. Stamina, AC, and dodge are useful for survival. In general, a MT prefers stam to AC and dodge due to rage mechanics. |
| 15:20.20 | xystic | Codayus: Ah, thanks. |
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| 15:21.34 | dalhia | Any fix for: 11/23 16:19:04.350 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from Bartender3 - PickupAction() |
| 15:21.36 | dalhia | 11/23 16:19:04.350 Interface\AddOns\Bartender3\Button.lua:97 |
| 15:22.44 | Codayus | Since you linked those rings, your probably just starting Kara. I'd make sure I was at the def cap, then stack stamina like mad. :-) |
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| 15:24.12 | xystic | Codayus: If the trade-off was between stamina gems, and dodge gems (+8 vs +12) stamina seems like it gives better returns? (+10 hp per point, versus 0.0042% per point...) |
| 15:25.10 | SunTsu | xystic: Having too much dodge will harm your rage generation |
| 15:25.40 | Codayus | Stam gems are basically ALWAYS called for. |
| 15:26.19 | SunTsu | xystic: And: If you have high dodge and low stamina, you will be glad as long as you won't get hit. Bug if you are... |
| 15:26.47 | Codayus | It's rare to see a tank NOT in 100% solid stars of elune... |
| 15:27.18 | SunTsu | Codayus: That depends on the sockets and the socket bonus ;) |
| 15:27.33 | Codayus | Um... |
| 15:27.55 | Codayus | I'd say it's STILL rare. |
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| 15:40.08 | RogueShadow | http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8558/punitionis8.jpg |
| 15:41.28 | Cryect | haha |
| 15:42.15 | dalhia | So no fix yet for that bartender error? (not being able to move buttons in combat, taint.log error) |
| 15:42.39 | |Stan| | dalhia: ~whalecrit nevcairiel |
| 15:42.59 | dalhia | euh..? |
| 15:43.15 | |Stan| | ask nev :p |
| 15:43.24 | Health | ~whalecum Kalroth |
| 15:43.34 | Pkekyo| | rofl, some randomass 12 year-old got attacked by a fucking moose and popped 'feign death' because he learned it in WoW |
| 15:43.48 | dalhia | ah, that would require me to register and such :P I'll just wait till I see he's back I suppose :) |
| 15:43.50 | Health | Did it work? |
| 15:44.13 | Pkekyo| | yup, worked...after he got hit in the back, thatis |
| 15:44.29 | Health | link! |
| 15:44.42 | Pkekyo| | http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article1453635.ece |
| 15:46.27 | Pkekyo| | localized news ftw, no? |
| 15:46.50 | Health | i can read .no |
| 15:46.53 | Health | .se here |
| 15:46.57 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 15:47.00 | Pkekyo| | gz then :> |
| 15:47.51 | Pkekyo| | would be more fun if the moose gashed the kid's back so it was squirting blood or something |
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| 16:13.02 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 16:13.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm running out of defias to debug with |
| 16:13.08 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
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| 16:13.55 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: There are plenty of them within the deadliest mines in Azeroth, The Deadmines! |
| 16:14.10 | thul | av lag :-( |
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| 16:20.38 | lolinternet | ANTIARC |
| 16:20.40 | lolinternet | SHOW THE FUCK UP |
| 16:20.45 | lolinternet | I FOUND WHAT BREAKS OMEN |
| 16:21.03 | Obelixprime | aids? |
| 16:21.30 | Xinhuan | sag: show us |
| 16:21.32 | JoshBorke | lolinternet: caps lock too easy |
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| 16:22.00 | Xinhuan | what breaks omen? |
| 16:22.16 | sag_ich_nicht | AuraMap does |
| 16:22.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't know how |
| 16:22.20 | sag_ich_nicht | but i know it does |
| 16:22.22 | Xinhuan | wtf is auramap |
| 16:22.37 | Kirkburn | ~seen Mikk |
| 16:22.39 | purl | mikk <n=Administ@WoWUIDev/mikk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 20h 36m 3s ago, saying: 'there's plenty of mods that'll do an energy ticker better than unitframe addons imo'. |
| 16:22.48 | sag_ich_nicht | addon that show your aura range on the minimap |
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| 16:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't know HOW it breaks threat-1.0/omen |
| 16:22.58 | sag_ich_nicht | after zoning |
| 16:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | but it DOES |
| 16:23.08 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 16:23.30 | Xinhuan | so will i get reported for afk |
| 16:23.35 | Xinhuan | if i just stand at AV's entrance |
| 16:23.38 | Xinhuan | and code my addon |
| 16:23.46 | durcyn | usually, yes |
| 16:23.47 | Kuja^ | lol |
| 16:23.56 | Xinhuan | but its free CP ;) |
| 16:23.59 | Xinhuan | Av weekend too |
| 16:24.31 | JoshBorke | it's av weekend? |
| 16:24.39 | Elkano | free cp? do I here the party van coming by? |
| 16:25.26 | Xinhuan | yep so 300 gauranteed honor |
| 16:25.28 | Xinhuan | even on a losing AV |
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| 16:26.13 | durcyn | no such thing as contribution points anymore though, fyi |
| 16:26.15 | Vulcanus | Did I hear someone mention CP? *creeps out of the woodwork* |
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| 16:26.26 | Fisker- | CP? |
| 16:26.33 | Vulcanus | Child Pr0n ;p |
| 16:26.47 | Fisker- | oh, and I didn't know of course |
| 16:26.55 | Vulcanus | Sure. |
| 16:27.11 | Elkano | you didn't know she was 5? |
| 16:27.13 | Obelixprime | Vulcanus is really pedobear? |
| 16:27.33 | Vulcanus | http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/227/pedobear4dz.jpg |
| 16:28.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail for Antiarc: AuraMap breaks Threat-1.0 after zoning. I don't know how, but it does. I assume you might have not been able to reproduce it with my interface because you tested with a class that doesn't have an aura. |
| 16:28.07 | sag_ich_nicht | time for a taintlog 2 of that shit |
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| 16:28.24 | Vulcanus | http://blog68.fc2.com/n/netamichelin/file/2007061914.jpg |
| 16:28.25 | Obelixprime | that sounds so dirty |
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| 16:28.58 | Xinhuan | taintlog 2 isn't foolproof - it does not log down tainting of non-global variables/functions - such as frame event handlers |
| 16:29.20 | Vulcanus | taintlog 3 then |
| 16:29.24 | Vulcanus | or 42 |
| 16:29.29 | Vulcanus | since that's the ultimate answeer |
| 16:29.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: I know, i saw your post |
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| 16:29.55 | Xinhuan | i haven't found out why something tainted yet |
| 16:30.12 | sag_ich_nicht | oh. |
| 16:30.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i found out how auramap breaks threat-1.0 |
| 16:30.47 | sag_ich_nicht | oh jesus christ |
| 16:30.50 | sag_ich_nicht | that explains a lot |
| 16:31.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i found a folder in the auramap folder |
| 16:31.05 | sag_ich_nicht | guess what it contains, Xinhuan. |
| 16:31.09 | sag_ich_nicht | better yet |
| 16:31.11 | Xinhuan | porn |
| 16:31.14 | sag_ich_nicht | guess what it's called. |
| 16:31.56 | Vulcanus | ImTaintingOmenThreat-1.0 |
| 16:32.01 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
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| 16:32.16 | Xinhuan | KTMIsTheBest.lua |
| 16:32.22 | Vulcanus | Blasphemy! |
| 16:32.31 | Glorian | Omen is much better :) |
| 16:32.32 | Glorian | ^^ |
| 16:33.17 | Vulcanus | well then saggy tell us, we're dying from excitement here |
| 16:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | the folder is called Libs |
| 16:33.39 | sag_ich_nicht | guess what's in it |
| 16:33.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 16:33.50 | Xinhuan | ~whaleslap sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:33.51 | purl | ACTION beats sag_ich_nicht upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 16:33.53 | Vulcanus | Threat-1.0 |
| 16:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 16:34.00 | markt_ | Ace2 |
| 16:34.04 | sag_ich_nicht | yupp |
| 16:34.06 | sag_ich_nicht | and guess from when |
| 16:34.09 | sag_ich_nicht | january. |
| 16:34.10 | markt_ | lmfao |
| 16:34.14 | Vulcanus | 1642 |
| 16:34.19 | Vulcanus | aw :( |
| 16:34.22 | Xinhuan | how would that break omen |
| 16:34.30 | sag_ich_nicht | now let's see |
| 16:34.32 | Xinhuan | an older version doesn't load over a newer version of ace2 |
| 16:34.48 | sag_ich_nicht | UNLESS there is a bug in the code that is supposed to manage that. |
| 16:34.53 | Vulcanus | damn xin you chinese farmer you, I was typing that :( |
| 16:34.55 | sag_ich_nicht | what happens if i delete the libs folder |
| 16:35.04 | Xinhuan | nothing? |
| 16:35.09 | Vulcanus | it works |
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| 16:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | we'll see. |
| 16:35.53 | Obelixprime | WORLD DOMINATION |
| 16:36.21 | Vulcanus | Get in line, buddy |
| 16:36.35 | markt_ | ewww, there's all sorts of horrible libs in Libs |
| 16:36.49 | Vulcanus | Yeah thats generally why its there |
| 16:36.54 | Vulcanus | To hold those horrible libs |
| 16:37.08 | markt_ | but i want externals dammit! |
| 16:37.27 | Vulcanus | SÅ PRØV DEN LILLA BOKSEN DA! |
| 16:37.34 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm okay |
| 16:37.36 | sag_ich_nicht | still breaks |
| 16:37.36 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 16:37.40 | Vulcanus | see! |
| 16:37.41 | Vulcanus | SEE! |
| 16:38.10 | Glorian | i always update them without externals |
| 16:38.14 | Glorian | and have standalone libs |
| 16:38.18 | Glorian | works just fine |
| 16:38.21 | sag_ich_nicht | so do i |
| 16:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 16:38.33 | sag_ich_nicht | AuraMap lacks any kind of ReqDeps |
| 16:38.34 | Vulcanus | I use embedded libs and have yet to have a problemo |
| 16:39.50 | Glorian | since when do you have problems sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:39.56 | sag_ich_nicht | since forever |
| 16:40.07 | Glorian | What error do you get with omen |
| 16:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no error |
| 16:40.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Glorian |
| 16:40.13 | sag_ich_nicht | go away |
| 16:40.30 | Vulcanus | poor glori :( |
| 16:40.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i know very well what the problem is, i've been tracking this for months, and talking to Antiarc since forever |
| 16:40.41 | Vulcanus | ANGRY GERMAN KID! |
| 16:40.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i appreciate you wanting to help me |
| 16:40.49 | sag_ich_nicht | but i don't need your help in this case |
| 16:41.03 | Glorian | its ok |
| 16:41.10 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme see what happens if i add Ace2, Babble and Dewdrop as deps to it |
| 16:41.53 | markt_ | i don't understand the order that libraries are loaded... if AuraMap has, for eg. Babble-* and Dewdrop, are they not going to get loaded before the newer (external) versions? |
| 16:42.38 | sag_ich_nicht | markt_: i deleted the Libs folder already, that's not what was causing it |
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| 16:42.52 | sag_ich_nicht | but auramap doesn't even have Ace2, Babble and Dewdrop as deps |
| 16:43.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt that's causing the issue |
| 16:43.06 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 16:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | fixing it on the way |
| 16:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | who knows |
| 16:43.29 | Arrowmaster | you mean optdeps? |
| 16:44.18 | Arrowmaster | if it embeds them then set the optdeps and test, sometimes library upgrading breaks in the weirdist ways |
| 16:44.28 | sag_ich_nicht | no, reqdeps. Arrowmaster, Auramaps is assold |
| 16:44.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i deleted the embeds already |
| 16:46.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bingo |
| 16:46.43 | sag_ich_nicht | that was what was breaking omen |
| 16:46.46 | sag_ich_nicht | question is WHY |
| 16:48.26 | markt_ | ok, so, to fix it, i delete Libs and add reqdeps, right? |
| 16:48.31 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 16:48.36 | markt_ | kk, ty |
| 16:48.37 | sag_ich_nicht | opt deps would do it, actually |
| 16:48.44 | sag_ich_nicht | you using auramap too? |
| 16:49.10 | markt_ | i was planning to, but didn't want my omen to break - i can live without auramaps, omen i cannot :) |
| 16:49.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail for Antiarc: Okay. Auramap had assold versions of Ace2, Babble and Dewdrop embedded. that wasn't what was breaking it tho. what WAS breaking Omen, was the complete lack of Opt or ReqDeps for them. I don't know WHY that broke Omen on zoning, but it did. Maybe you can track it down so we can prevent this in the future. |
| 16:50.09 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 16:50.20 | sag_ich_nicht | actually auramap disabled it because i typo'D |
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| 16:50.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail for Antiarc: disregard the last botmail, i made a typo, not sure yet if that is really causing it |
| 16:50.49 | durcyn | calm down |
| 16:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 16:51.20 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: /msg purl botmail :-) |
| 16:51.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i have been trying to find this for over 6 months |
| 16:51.48 | Obelixprime | frost or fire for levelling a mage |
| 16:51.53 | kebinusan | arcane |
| 16:51.54 | Xinhuan | fire always |
| 16:52.17 | kebinusan | really depends if you're going to solo or have a pocket healer |
| 16:52.24 | Xinhuan | no always go fire |
| 16:52.32 | SunTsu | Obelixprime: I level with fire and it's doing great |
| 16:52.32 | Xinhuan | higher dps - faster kills - more exp |
| 16:52.49 | JoshBorke | i'm going frost |
| 16:52.50 | SunTsu | An I always level solo |
| 16:53.18 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 16:53.23 | sag_ich_nicht | deps didn't fix it |
| 16:53.31 | sag_ich_nicht | time to look at the actual code |
| 16:53.45 | Xinhuan | lol? after 6 months you haven't loeked at the code? |
| 16:54.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: i didn't know it was auramap breaking it until now |
| 16:54.22 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: He is talking about Auramap's code, he just found out that it might be the addon that breaks Omen |
| 16:54.30 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 16:54.32 | Xinhuan | in what way does it break omen? |
| 16:54.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i KNOW it's the addon that breaks omen |
| 16:54.46 | Xinhuan | make it error? not communicate?wrong calcs? |
| 16:54.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: if you have auramap enabled, after zoning in or out of an instance, omen stops working |
| 16:55.04 | sag_ich_nicht | (this also goes true for going to/from continents) |
| 16:55.09 | Xinhuan | check the P_E_W event then |
| 16:55.25 | sag_ich_nicht | durrrr |
| 16:55.27 | Xinhuan | its likely to do something silly like Omen = nil |
| 16:55.34 | sag_ich_nicht | doubt that |
| 16:55.57 | sag_ich_nicht | then it wouldn't work after login or reloaduiing in the instance either |
| 16:55.58 | sag_ich_nicht | which it does |
| 16:56.29 | Xinhuan | not if omen loaded after |
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| 16:59.02 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 16:59.04 | sag_ich_nicht | it does a call to SetMapToCurrentZone(); |
| 16:59.10 | sag_ich_nicht | on P_E_W |
| 16:59.19 | Xinhuan | is taht it? |
| 16:59.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 16:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | we'll see. |
| 17:03.07 | CIA-8 | 03ascalia * r55777 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/ExtraText.lua Instances/instances.en.lua): |
| 17:03.09 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:03.11 | CIA-8 | - added map support: Black Temple (Start) |
| 17:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll just outcomment the code he has for P_E_W |
| 17:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and see if it still breaks |
| 17:03.36 | sag_ich_nicht | then call each call in it manually |
| 17:03.39 | sag_ich_nicht | see which one breaks it |
| 17:04.51 | Xinhuan | anyone use bigbrother here |
| 17:04.59 | Civrock | <- |
| 17:05.07 | Xinhuan | what slash commands does it have |
| 17:05.18 | Xinhuan | in particular is /bigb a slash command for it? |
| 17:05.35 | Civrock | No. |
| 17:05.41 | Civrock | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.42 | Xinhuan | good, i can use it then :))) |
| 17:06.02 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
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| 17:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | he defined a AuraMap_SendAura(); function |
| 17:06.30 | sag_ich_nicht | but i can't call it with /script AuraMap:AuraMap_SendAura("~AuraMapSyncRequest~", ""); |
| 17:06.34 | sag_ich_nicht | why the hell not |
| 17:07.11 | Xinhuan | maybe its local |
| 17:07.30 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 17:07.37 | sag_ich_nicht | function AuraMap_SendAura(prefix, auraMessage) |
| 17:07.38 | sag_ich_nicht | SendAddonMessage(prefix, auraMessage, "PARTY"); |
| 17:07.38 | sag_ich_nicht | end |
| 17:08.02 | Xinhuan | so....? |
| 17:08.22 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:08.24 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | should be the same |
| 17:08.31 | sag_ich_nicht | let's see what happens |
| 17:08.51 | sag_ich_nicht | still not breaking, would have wondered me, but who knows |
| 17:09.12 | nevcairiel | thats an awful long prefix |
| 17:09.28 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 17:09.36 | sag_ich_nicht | hey nevcairiel wanna help me find the cause for this insanity? |
| 17:09.42 | Polarina | I just use a random 4-bytes random binary prefix. :| |
| 17:09.50 | Xinhuan | you should pastey the whole AuraMap code |
| 17:09.52 | nevcairiel | short words are fine |
| 17:09.58 | nevcairiel | but something like that? |
| 17:09.58 | Xinhuan | cos i'm definitely not gonna download it |
| 17:10.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: it's split file |
| 17:10.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 17:10.09 | markt_ | might be worth checking MINIMAP_UPDATE_ZOOM and MINIMAP_ZONE_CHANGED events too? |
| 17:10.11 | Xinhuan | pastey the file with PEW event in it |
| 17:10.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i am, markt_, i am |
| 17:10.19 | markt_ | :) |
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| 17:10.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 17:11.06 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
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| 17:12.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: http://pastey.net/77885 |
| 17:12.54 | sag_ich_nicht | that's AuraMap.lua |
| 17:13.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if you want to take a look at the other files, tell me and i'll pastey them :P |
| 17:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, nevcairiel |
| 17:13.53 | sag_ich_nicht | it is quite horrible |
| 17:13.57 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 17:14.16 | Xinhuan | what class are you sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:14.30 | sag_ich_nicht | paladin, but testing with a hunter atm |
| 17:14.39 | Xinhuan | does it break on any class you play on? |
| 17:14.42 | sag_ich_nicht | (same problem tho) |
| 17:14.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't test it on my warrior yet |
| 17:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | but auramap is dead for me now, as far as i am concerned |
| 17:16.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i just want to know HOW it breaks omen, so that we may prevent other addons from doing so as well in the future |
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| 17:16.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hey JoshBork1 |
| 17:16.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i found out what breaks my omen |
| 17:16.23 | JoshBork1 | hi you |
| 17:16.27 | JoshBork1 | i heard |
| 17:16.31 | JoshBork1 | i didn't know your omen broke |
| 17:16.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:16.39 | CIA-8 | 03arrowmaster * r55778 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Foglight/Foglight.lua: Cartographer_Foglight: tweaked 2.3 fix |
| 17:17.57 | Xinhuan | meh that file is a mess |
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| 17:19.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan yes. |
| 17:20.00 | sag_ich_nicht | just enabled all my addons, except auramap |
| 17:20.03 | sag_ich_nicht | still working |
| 17:20.07 | sag_ich_nicht | so it was just auramap |
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| 17:20.53 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 17:20.55 | Arrowmaster | just wow |
| 17:21.26 | sag_ich_nicht | that code is painful to look at, i know. i am ashamed of myself for ever having touched that addon |
| 17:21.54 | Xinhuan | you haven't said what breaks in omen |
| 17:22.06 | Xinhuan | merely that omen breaks |
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| 17:22.45 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r55779 10nQuestLog/ (locales/zhCN.lua modules/BlizzardFrames/locales/zhCN.lua): |
| 17:22.46 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 17:22.48 | CIA-8 | update zhCN Local (not finished yet) |
| 17:23.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: it stops working. no aggro values. it's not really omen that breaks, but Threat-1.0 |
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| 17:23.21 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: try starting with the INCREADIBLY FUCKING HUGE AMOUNT OF FUCKING GLOBALS THAT THING CREATES! |
| 17:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | sometimes it keeps working, but the aggro value doesn't get reset, ever |
| 17:23.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: i know |
| 17:23.45 | Arrowmaster | is there a single fucking local in that entire file? |
| 17:23.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i won't fix it, and i cba to track it, and i know antiarc will want to track it down anyway |
| 17:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt it |
| 17:24.11 | Xinhuan | why would antiarc want to track down an issue that isn't in his addon |
| 17:24.14 | JoshBork1 | what does auramap do? |
| 17:24.21 | Arrowmaster | trash the entire addon, its not worth fixing |
| 17:24.23 | Arrowmaster | or using |
| 17:24.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: i know |
| 17:24.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i already did |
| 17:24.43 | |Stan| | who is the author of AuraMap? |
| 17:25.02 | Arrowmaster | although threat-1.0 may be picking up one of the globals created by that addon and having issues which is worth tracking down |
| 17:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:24] <Xinhuan> why would antiarc want to track down an issue that isn't in his addon <--because it's breaking his addon, and he may want to know how, so he can put some protections in place against it |
| 17:25.14 | sag_ich_nicht | exactly, Arrowmaster. |
| 17:25.26 | JoshBork1 | sag_ich_nicht: what did AuraMap do? |
| 17:25.47 | sag_ich_nicht | JoshBork1: add an indication of your aura range to the minimap |
| 17:26.04 | JoshBork1 | ah, ok |
| 17:29.23 | CIA-8 | 03ascalia * r55780 10AtlasLoot/Core/Atlas1.10.3compat.lua: |
| 17:29.25 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:29.27 | CIA-8 | - improved Atlas1.10.3compat.lua |
| 17:30.09 | sag_ich_nicht | jesus christ |
| 17:30.20 | sag_ich_nicht | each new function i look at is even more horribly coded than the one before |
| 17:32.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't stand to look at this |
| 17:32.13 | sag_ich_nicht | that's just too disgusting |
| 17:32.23 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe antiarc can deal with that |
| 17:32.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't |
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| 17:42.51 | dalhia | Anyone knows why Bartender is giving me a taint error when trying to move buttons in combat? |
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| 17:43.25 | nevcairiel | because blizzard disallows this function now |
| 17:43.37 | dalhia | Any replacement function for it? |
| 17:43.39 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:43.45 | nevcairiel | you cant move buttons in combat right now |
| 17:43.47 | dalhia | so it also applies to basic blizzard toolbars? |
| 17:43.49 | dalhia | ah, ok |
| 17:44.02 | nevcairiel | nah the blizzard bars can do it |
| 17:44.02 | dalhia | thanks |
| 17:44.06 | nevcairiel | because they are secure |
| 17:44.47 | sag_ich_nicht | markt_ |
| 17:44.49 | nevcairiel | there is a way around it actually, but it requires quite some recoding, which i didnt get around doing yet |
| 17:44.52 | dalhia | ah, makes sense. No way to make custom toolbars secure? |
| 17:44.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i suggest you don't even try to use auramap |
| 17:45.00 | sag_ich_nicht | it's broken beyond repair |
| 17:46.14 | dalhia | I see, while I'm here, Im having alot of Geist errors in my taint.log, I know its not Ace, but I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with it: |
| 17:46.52 | sag_ich_nicht | dalhia: /join #wowi-lounge |
| 17:46.57 | dalhia | hmm, error is pretty big, wont spam 5+ lines here, let me know if anyone might be interested in it |
| 17:47.05 | sag_ich_nicht | dalhia: pastey.net |
| 17:47.16 | dalhia | thanks :) |
| 17:47.21 | CIA-8 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r55781 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): LibSharedMedia-2.0: initial import of my code |
| 17:48.40 | CIA-8 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r55782 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0 test/ (5 files): LibSharedMedia-2.0 test: initial import of my code |
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| 17:49.19 | CIA-8 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r55783 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/ (LibSharedMedia-2.0 test/ LibSharedMedia-2.0 tests/): Renamed remotely |
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| 17:55.19 | markt_ | sag: hehe, kk |
| 17:58.50 | sb | mh |
| 17:58.57 | sb | is it possible to accept an group invitation with slashcommands? |
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| 17:59.31 | sag_ich_nicht | doubt it |
| 17:59.36 | nevcairiel | ./script AcceptGroup() |
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| 17:59.42 | nevcairiel | not sure if it works |
| 17:59.44 | nevcairiel | but should |
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| 18:02.44 | Industrial | ugh in ZF do I need to do the stairs event befor being able to do gahzrilla? |
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| 18:02.58 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 18:03.07 | nevcairiel | you need the stairs event for the troll end boss |
| 18:03.08 | JoshBork1 | no |
| 18:03.23 | JoshBork1 | you can do the troll end boss if you have a large seaforium charge |
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| 18:03.46 | nevcairiel | not like the event is _that_ hard |
| 18:03.50 | nevcairiel | even on levle |
| 18:03.52 | nevcairiel | *level |
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| 18:05.17 | Deviad | Hello |
| 18:05.30 | Kocoro | Heya |
| 18:05.33 | JoshBork1 | hi |
| 18:06.20 | Deviad | Can anyone pls tell me why mount does not work anymore in cryolisis and where I can pick up the names in a comprehensible format to it? |
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| 18:06.50 | Deviad | the names of the spell |
| 18:07.17 | Deviad | I write in Ice Barrier or IceBarrier and it doesn't "understand it" as nothing happens |
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| 18:08.01 | sag_ich_nicht | open spellbook, put cursor into cryolisis field, shift+click the spell in the spellbook |
| 18:09.37 | Deviad | sag_ich_nicht, what about mount? |
| 18:09.51 | Deviad | I cannot see my character "calling" the horse anymore |
| 18:10.01 | Deviad | It can just use the heartstone |
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| 18:11.53 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r55784 10Quartz/ (19 files in 15 dirs): Quartz: tweaks |
| 18:12.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 18:12.26 | Deviad | sag_ich_nicht, I used the command /cryolysis standby twice and now it seams to work |
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| 18:15.59 | aestil | whats up party people? |
| 18:17.12 | buu | JESUS |
| 18:17.13 | buu | WILL. |
| 18:17.17 | buu | Something something. |
| 18:18.01 | Industrial | <+nevcairiel> even on levle |
| 18:18.05 | Industrial | its not hard its shitty |
| 18:18.11 | Industrial | i have a pet that can tank it fine |
| 18:18.15 | Industrial | but I hate the event |
| 18:20.08 | Chompers | still no sign of atlas 1.10.3 :< |
| 18:20.18 | buu | Industrial: At 70 you just put your pet on aggressive and go afk. |
| 18:20.34 | Elkano | well, there are a lot... only nothing released besides svn |
| 18:20.45 | aestil | hey buu. did i tell you we killed first 3 BT bosses on first night? trying to kill 4th on monday [hyjal on sun] |
| 18:20.54 | buu | aestil: =[ |
| 18:20.59 | buu | aestil: Stop depressing me. |
| 18:21.08 | buu | aestil: Sharaz? |
| 18:21.11 | aestil | don't be depressed. get into exalted. they seem to be doing good. |
| 18:21.19 | aestil | buu: mother is like the 7th boss or something |
| 18:21.31 | aestil | we don't have anywhere neear the hearts of darkness needed for the resistance. |
| 18:21.46 | buu | aestil: Haha, I think exalted's raid times are too early, I can barely make pandora's. |
| 18:22.04 | buu | I was considering it for a while, but I'm pretty excited now. Depends on how we do this sunday. |
| 18:22.22 | Deviad | sag_ich_nicht, using ctrl+left click doesn't work with cryolisis 2 though |
| 18:22.37 | Deviad | ah ok |
| 18:22.41 | Deviad | I got what you meant |
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| 18:22.45 | Deviad | sorry |
| 18:23.07 | buu | aestil: Assuming our tanks and healers decide to show up, we should go 5/6 pretty easily and take a look at vashj |
| 18:23.32 | aestil | you killed leo? |
| 18:23.48 | buu | aestil: We will. |
| 18:23.52 | buu | Because he's fucking easy. |
| 18:23.57 | buu | (LIKE ALL OF WOW) |
| 18:24.02 | Deviad | sag_ich_nicht, done what you said, it does not work |
| 18:24.09 | aestil | he's harder than every other trash SSC boss. |
| 18:24.12 | buu | aestil: Pah. |
| 18:24.28 | aestil | *shrugs* thats my opinion anyways. |
| 18:24.33 | buu | aestil: We're going to rock him. |
| 18:24.48 | Deviad | I write in Ice Barrier or IceBarrier and it doesn't "understand it" as nothing happens |
| 18:24.51 | buu | aestil: As soon as healers stop failing =[ |
| 18:24.58 | Deviad | can anyone solve this little issue? |
| 18:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 18:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 18:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34330 |
| 18:25.59 | sag_ich_nicht | since when the FUCK does this apply to shoulder slot items as well? |
| 18:26.11 | buu | aestil: I mean, our very first pulls, we're losing like 2-3 healers on each inner demon and we still get him to 30-40% |
| 18:26.19 | aestil | WTF |
| 18:26.25 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55785 10XRS/XRS_TooltipClasses.lua: XRS: bugfix |
| 18:26.40 | aestil | since the change to +healing, killing inner demon for healers is stupid easy |
| 18:26.59 | aestil | if you said tanks, then maybe, prot warriors have the toughest time. but healers? get new healers. |
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| 18:27.08 | buu | aestil: Yeah =[ |
| 18:27.17 | buu | aestil: I wish. |
| 18:27.24 | buu | aestil: We've always been healer limited. At least in t5. |
| 18:27.37 | buu | aestil: Which is why hydross was such a hilarious fight. |
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| 18:30.20 | Deviad | Does anyone use Cryolisis2? |
| 18:30.48 | Industrial | nevcairiel: rofl ack hes at the pool not at the stairs :\ |
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| 18:35.08 | CIA-8 | 03tawerner * r55786 10Menagerie/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:35.10 | CIA-8 | Menagerie: |
| 18:35.12 | CIA-8 | - Complete rewrite |
| 18:35.14 | Deviad | Does anyone use Cryolisis2? |
| 18:35.14 | CIA-8 | - Blacklist: specify items that won't get swapped |
| 18:35.18 | CIA-8 | - LibPeriodicTable-3.1 |
| 18:35.20 | CIA-8 | - TOC 20300 |
| 18:35.44 | Deviad | I need to know where to pick up the names of the spells to insert in the proper fields |
| 18:46.18 | sag_ich_nicht | HA |
| 18:46.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ORB OF DECEPTION, and i didn't even buy it |
| 18:46.30 | sag_ich_nicht | about damn time |
| 18:46.33 | sag_ich_nicht | dire maul arena <3 |
| 18:49.17 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: Hmr. I should go back and win one of those STV arena contests. |
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| 18:51.30 | neenee | I won one :) |
| 18:52.02 | neenee | But I bought that orb from the Ah long ago. |
| 18:52.05 | neenee | I come a Troll |
| 18:54.20 | Pkekyo| | are there any addons to remotely keep track of the contents of gbank? |
| 18:54.44 | Pkekyo| | also: g'morning all |
| 18:55.46 | neenee | morning. |
| 18:55.50 | Chompers | Pkekyo|: arkinventory |
| 18:55.53 | neenee | *become a troll even |
| 18:56.44 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55787 10/trunk/ (Bartender3/Bartender3.lua CML/cml.lua Grid/GridRange.lua): .trunk: Bartender3 / Grid / CML: Don't set global _ |
| 19:02.09 | sag_ich_nicht | now that my omen issue is fixed, all i need is extreme unit buttons and engbags taintfree, and my interface should be error free |
| 19:02.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
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| 19:06.27 | Pkekyo| | Chompers: I just rid myself of arkinv x) |
| 19:08.26 | Chompers | :< |
| 19:09.10 | dylanm | What're you using instead? |
| 19:09.23 | Chompers | rid yourself if arkinc, like a shoe |
| 19:09.26 | Chompers | or a baby |
| 19:09.31 | Pkekyo| | OneBag/OneRing/OneView |
| 19:09.33 | Chompers | or grandparent |
| 19:10.06 | Pkekyo| | transparency issues with arkinv finally got to me |
| 19:10.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i <3 engbags, but it has a taint issue :/ |
| 19:10.43 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r55788 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Zul'jin.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Zul'jin: frFR Update |
| 19:13.14 | Pkekyo| | engbags? |
| 19:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3280/ |
| 19:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB taint fix for engbags, then i only need extreme unit buttons fixed and i should, theoretically, be taint free |
| 19:15.19 | Pkekyo| | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3280/ <--- you see the backdrops on the free slots there? |
| 19:15.36 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm? |
| 19:15.50 | sag_ich_nicht | backdrops=? |
| 19:16.02 | Pkekyo| | possible to get those transparent? |
| 19:16.38 | sag_ich_nicht | not without editing the addon, i think |
| 19:16.46 | Pkekyo| | if so: I'm in love |
| 19:16.46 | Pkekyo| | if not: that's the exact same reason I said sod-all to arkinv |
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| 19:18.11 | neenee | And the only reason you are not using it anymore? |
| 19:18.55 | Pkekyo| | yup |
| 19:19.18 | Pkekyo| | small insignificant details like that annoy the living hell outta me |
| 19:19.33 | Pkekyo| | well, the bankview part of arkinv was kinda poop too imo |
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| 19:21.09 | Pkekyo| | you can say it like this: I love the look and feel of OneBag/OneView, and love the sorting feature of ArkInv....I just love the look and feel a little more.. |
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| 19:21.38 | Andune | I used to use Tbags, which I think was a clone of EngBags. Got tired of the lack of updates, and finally switched to Baggins. So glad I did. |
| 19:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | phyber what's wrong? |
| 19:23.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not a clone of engbags |
| 19:23.12 | sag_ich_nicht | just another fork of enginventory |
| 19:23.14 | phyber | threat in the global list builds up for a few ticks then just stops. |
| 19:23.21 | phyber | which is wrong, I'm hellfiring packs in Hyjal |
| 19:23.25 | dylanm | Andune: Someone is maintaining TBag... shefki, I think his name is. |
| 19:23.32 | sag_ich_nicht | do you happen to use auramap by chance? :P |
| 19:23.50 | phyber | i have no idea what auramap is |
| 19:23.54 | sag_ich_nicht | an addon |
| 19:24.00 | sag_ich_nicht | if you don't, good for you |
| 19:24.09 | sag_ich_nicht | because it utterly destroys Threat-1.0 and omen for that matter |
| 19:24.17 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r55789 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 19:24.17 | CIA-8 | !AlarLib |
| 19:24.17 | CIA-8 | New: r,g,b=SplitColor(colortable) |
| 19:24.25 | dylanm | Hahahahahaha. |
| 19:24.26 | phyber | ah, well, no. I don't use it ;) |
| 19:24.32 | dylanm | Every commit is hilarious. |
| 19:24.50 | Andune | ah, well in any case, I'm extremely happy with Baggins. very easy to configure, does exactly what I want, and I love the tie-ins to things like ClosetGnome, GarbageFu, professions, etc. |
| 19:25.15 | sag_ich_nicht | <--happy with engbags, except for the taint it's causing :/ |
| 19:25.18 | |Stan| | lol this alar guy is too cool |
| 19:25.27 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell is Alar anyway |
| 19:25.28 | Pkekyo| | Andune: possible to get it fully transparent? |
| 19:25.35 | Pkekyo| | a bird? |
| 19:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | not what i meant. |
| 19:25.45 | |Stan| | sag_ich_nicht: collection of shitty addons |
| 19:25.50 | dylanm | Pkekyo|: I too think it's a bossmod. |
| 19:25.52 | Pkekyo| | also slightly resembles the name of a norwegian glamour model |
| 19:25.57 | dylanm | His bg mod looks alright |
| 19:26.09 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke * r55790 10/branches/aUF_barFader/: aUF_barFader: created remotely |
| 19:26.23 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r55791 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): |
| 19:26.25 | CIA-8 | AlarAutomation |
| 19:26.27 | CIA-8 | 3.0.3 |
| 19:26.29 | CIA-8 | Fix: /aau attune was not working |
| 19:26.31 | CIA-8 | Feature: /aau attune panel now rescales and resizes gracefully |
| 19:26.47 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r55792 10aUF_barFader/ (. aUF_barFader.lua aUF_barFader.toc): |
| 19:26.49 | CIA-8 | aUF_barFader: |
| 19:26.53 | CIA-8 | - initial import (has basic options showing) but doesn't do anything |
| 19:26.58 | dylanm | aUF? |
| 19:27.37 | Pkekyo| | ag_UnitFrames |
| 19:27.44 | Pkekyo| | I guess |
| 19:27.55 | JoshBork1 | correct |
| 19:27.56 | dylanm | JoshBork1: What dis |
| 19:28.05 | dylanm | Ah. |
| 19:28.06 | Andune | pkekyo|: well I would have assumed it hand a standard alpha slider... but after poking around, nope, I don't see one. |
| 19:28.12 | dylanm | Why not just say "ag" |
| 19:28.26 | dylanm | This is for the new branch ag`_ is hacking on? I like it a lot. |
| 19:28.35 | JoshBork1 | dylanm: yes |
| 19:28.37 | Andune | It's about 50% alpha by default. Can't imagine it would be hard to add an alpha slider if you asked nargiddley about it. |
| 19:28.42 | Pkekyo| | Andune: that's the major failure of most bag addons :p |
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| 19:29.45 | Andune | well, to each his or her own. Now that I've used Baggins for a while, I'd never go back. |
| 19:30.12 | Pkekyo| | I'd imagine Baggins with an alpha slider would be lovable :p |
| 19:30.38 | Pkekyo| | can't handle without one though |
| 19:31.14 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r55793 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc localization.lua): |
| 19:31.16 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 19:31.18 | CIA-8 | 3.0.3 |
| 19:31.19 | Lukian | Who's the DrDamage author? |
| 19:31.20 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can now disable showing bg related messages on scree |
| 19:31.22 | CIA-8 | Feature: Honor marks name localized to french |
| 19:31.38 | dylanm | Lukian: Gagorian |
| 19:31.59 | Lukian | Gagorian, ping! :D |
| 19:33.11 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: plong? |
| 19:33.19 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Gagorian |
| 19:33.22 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace (2d 20h 30m 5s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 15h 23m 24s, last said: 'but if going back instantly it might not help'. |
| 19:33.54 | Lukian | now that's a comment that can be taken out of context ;) |
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| 19:37.21 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
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| 19:52.20 | charon | evening |
| 19:53.11 | charon | little prat question... am i the only one who gets the following error a lot, whenever a chat window is scrolled up: |
| 19:53.13 | charon | [2007/11/23 20:34:58-698-x126]: Prat-2.0 54518.55577\Prat_Modules\modules\ChatButtons.lua:571: attempt to call global 'intersects_line' (a nil value) |
| 19:54.03 | durcyn | yes, you are the only one. |
| 19:54.08 | durcyn | congratulations! |
| 19:54.27 | charon | so i guess i win another free ticket to a debugging session |
| 19:55.26 | CIA-8 | 03tawerner * r55794 10Menagerie/Locales/Menagerie-deDE.lua: |
| 19:55.26 | CIA-8 | Menagerie: |
| 19:55.27 | CIA-8 | - Localization update for deDE |
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| 19:59.56 | charon | ah, found it, the function is there, but local and defined at the _end_ when it should in fact be defined before its use |
| 20:00.16 | charon | (otherwise the interpreter thinks it's a call of some yet-to-be-defined global function) |
| 20:00.57 | charon | Fin: you're a prat dev right? may/should i commit that change? |
| 20:02.46 | Industrial | I need a dense camp of 40 beasts |
| 20:02.49 | Chexsum | i get a nil string error with prat once in a while but thats all |
| 20:02.51 | Industrial | so I can AOE and skin them |
| 20:02.59 | Industrial | anything :D? |
| 20:03.04 | Ellipsis | Industrial: what level? BM is pretty good |
| 20:04.09 | Industrial | BM? |
| 20:04.10 | Industrial | 40 |
| 20:04.14 | Industrial | oh, me? 62 |
| 20:05.03 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 20:05.37 | Ellipsis | maybe once you level a bit more some parts of nagrand will work for that |
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| 20:05.50 | Chexsum | do you skin outand stuff yet ? |
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| 20:06.31 | Kocoro | worgens in duskwood! |
| 20:06.35 | Kocoro | Those are fun |
| 20:07.24 | Jerres | hello all! i'm new to lua but i code php sometimes. My problem is: i need something like a wait function but it doesn't exists. Example : "wait(1)" should wait 1 s and do nothing |
| 20:07.55 | Jerres | where could i find something like this please? |
| 20:08.10 | Elkano | as you said: doesn't exist |
| 20:08.17 | Ellipsis | Jerres: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 20:08.20 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 20:08.24 | Lemming2K | its bad programming habit |
| 20:08.25 | Chexsum | use a timed callback instead |
| 20:08.43 | |Stan| | Jerres: wow is single threaded...wait() would freeze it |
| 20:08.59 | Jerres | i try do wait a second before putting out a new chatmsg |
| 20:09.03 | |Stan| | well not wow...lua |
| 20:09.11 | charon | Arrowmaster: your commit to Prat_Modules/modules/ChatButtons.lua in rev 55577 breaks, but would easily be fixed by moving the two functions you made 'local' up a bit |
| 20:09.21 | charon | can/should/may i fix that right away, seeing as i have svn access |
| 20:10.10 | Arrowmaster | oh you just want to move the function delclarations above where they first get used? |
| 20:10.24 | Ellipsis | whta a silly thought |
| 20:10.25 | Ellipsis | >_> |
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| 20:10.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats fine didnt even think about that when i commited that |
| 20:10.42 | charon | yeah otherwise the call to intersects_line in Prat_ChatButtons:ChatFrame_OnUpdateTextFlow tries to call a global function of that name which obviously does not exist |
| 20:10.46 | charon | thanks |
| 20:11.06 | Aeyan | Anyone else having a bongos2 and cycircled clash? Cycircled skins the class bar buttons, but the default button frames remain |
| 20:11.16 | Jerres | could i try to make an event that will be called after a second or another way |
| 20:11.29 | CIA-8 | 03charon * r55795 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatButtons.lua: |
| 20:11.31 | CIA-8 | Prat: |
| 20:11.33 | CIA-8 | - ChatButtons: move local functions above first call so they will be |
| 20:11.35 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.46 | Ellipsis | Jerres: yes, you could use a timed event, but what are you trying to do in the end? there may be a better way |
| 20:11.47 | Arrowmaster | Jerres: just use an OnUpdate() |
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| 20:12.46 | Chompers | just did the dragonhawk boss |
| 20:12.49 | Chompers | what an awesome fight |
| 20:14.26 | Jerres | What I try to do is sending an amount of X sentences. But if X is too high the spam stops my character speaking. So I want to say the sentences not so quick... |
| 20:14.36 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55796 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: BigWigs: Extras/CustomBar: tweak |
| 20:14.58 | Kocoro | why? |
| 20:14.58 | Kocoro | xD |
| 20:15.48 | Jerres | Because then it won't stop I hope. |
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| 20:17.49 | Jerres | I mean like 1 sentence...wait a second...another sentence. |
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| 20:18.34 | Ellipsis | aren't there libs for that? |
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| 20:19.19 | Jerres | I don't know which libs that would be...any tip? |
| 20:19.40 | Antiarc | AceTimer provides an /in command |
| 20:19.43 | Hjalte | Is there any of the addons providing a small map of the battlegrounds that supports colouring the players their class colours and showing who is losing health (Like Cartographer) ? |
| 20:19.47 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.04 | Kocoro | I get it, but why do you need it? Sounds like goldspam... |
| 20:20.12 | Jerres | Antiarc, I will look at this tahnk you |
| 20:20.25 | Antiarc | Kocoro: If it is, right click->report spam will fix it :P |
| 20:20.41 | Ellipsis | you have an interesting definition of "fix" Antiarc |
| 20:20.58 | kergoth | Hjalte: PartySpotter provides the pin coloring & blinking when in combat and such like cart does |
| 20:21.02 | _Poof | Hmm |
| 20:21.03 | kergoth | for hte world map and the battleground minimap |
| 20:21.07 | _Poof | Anybody having issues visiting newegg.com ? |
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| 20:25.48 | Ellipsis | newegg seems to be working for me _Poof |
| 20:26.10 | |Stan| | DNS issue? |
| 20:26.32 | _Poof | Hmm |
| 20:26.33 | _Poof | Ya. |
| 20:26.36 | _Poof | Came back up finally =? |
| 20:26.55 | _Poof | I ran through all their NS servers and none had an answer for their A record =/ |
| 20:27.01 | _Poof | Guess they finally fixed it =0 |
| 20:27.22 | Zhinjio | G'morning. |
| 20:27.36 | Ellipsis | damn you Poof! |
| 20:27.37 | Poof | mmmm? |
| 20:27.41 | Poof | What's wrong ellipsis? hehe. |
| 20:27.44 | Poof | You're the ... |
| 20:28.02 | Poof | Crazy name. |
| 20:28.10 | Ellipsis | you made me start browsing newegg |
| 20:28.16 | Poof | oh. hehe |
| 20:28.26 | Ellipsis | whoa, my old "new gaming rig" wishlist is under $1k now |
| 20:28.33 | Poof | Ya. I just spent like... Uhh |
| 20:28.39 | Poof | Crap. I dunno |
| 20:28.44 | Poof | 600 =/ |
| 20:28.48 | Ellipsis | it was pushing $2k when I put it together to buy >_< |
| 20:32.12 | Mudkipz | i h8 u |
| 20:32.43 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 20:33.22 | Poof | hehe |
| 20:33.25 | Poof | Ellipsis... |
| 20:33.57 | Poof | I just spent $1,628.59 at NewEgg last month =/ |
| 20:34.03 | Poof | SysStats: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit - (6.0.6000) up: 4days 6hrs 34mins 38secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz at 2997MHz (% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT 256MB res: 1280x1024 32bit 75Hz hdd: C:\ 167.25GB/279.46GB Free E:\ 529.46GB/558.92GB Free ram: 3115/4093.69MB (76.08%) [||||||||--] |
| 20:34.07 | Poof | On 2x that stuff |
| 20:34.38 | many | another framedropper, eh? |
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| 20:37.00 | Ellipsis | nice, Poof :D |
| 20:37.19 | Mudkipz | I hope it gets hit by lightning Poof |
| 20:37.30 | Ellipsis | woo, heroic where I'm doing 45% of the damage \o/ |
| 20:37.32 | Poof | Meh. |
| 20:37.33 | Poof | =P |
| 20:37.41 | Poof | I wonder if APC will cover lightning damage >.> |
| 20:37.41 | Poof | =p |
| 20:37.45 | Ellipsis | someone forgot that a large part of the phrase "dps warrior" is "dps" |
| 20:38.08 | Mudkipz | try being the tank ... |
| 20:38.11 | Mudkipz | and 2nd on dps |
| 20:38.19 | aestil | poof. lol. thats alot of computer for 12x10. l2 have a bigger monitor. |
| 20:38.22 | Vulcanus | wow poof that comp is a lot like mine, only I use a 7900 GTX 512 MB, and a 120 gb raptor as system drive |
| 20:38.26 | Poof | eh? |
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| 20:38.31 | Mudkipz | aestil, i was thinking the same thing hehe |
| 20:38.32 | Poof | It's dual 1280/1024 |
| 20:38.33 | Poof | monitors |
| 20:38.41 | aestil | fun. |
| 20:38.50 | aestil | so its like 26x10 then? |
| 20:38.54 | Poof | So... It's 2560x1024 |
| 20:38.55 | Poof | Ya |
| 20:38.57 | aestil | 25x10 |
| 20:39.08 | aestil | doesn't that cause problems with, you know a big black bar in the middle of the game screen? |
| 20:39.19 | Poof | No |
| 20:39.23 | Poof | Because I use my left monitor for WoW |
| 20:39.25 | Poof | Right one for IRC/etc |
| 20:39.33 | Poof | Or... LEft for WoW #1 and Right for WoW #2 |
| 20:39.34 | Poof | =0 |
| 20:39.52 | Poof | But ya. I enjoy my dual LCDs =) |
| 20:40.01 | Mudkipz | hope it catches on fire |
| 20:40.15 | Poof | =( |
| 20:40.17 | Poof | You're so mean. |
| 20:40.18 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 20:40.33 | ulic | thou shall not envy. |
| 20:40.38 | aestil | Poof: ok, then let me reiterate. thats alot of computer for 12x10 |
| 20:40.48 | Poof | Bah. lol |
| 20:40.52 | aestil | i could not fit on my screen everything i need to in 12x10 |
| 20:41.01 | Poof | Eh? |
| 20:41.02 | aestil | i can barely do it in 19x12 |
| 20:41.04 | Poof | How not? |
| 20:41.16 | Poof | I enjoy the duals though... Makes it so I don't have to. |
| 20:41.29 | aestil | http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/priest.png |
| 20:41.51 | aestil | i really need that bigger resolution monitor, whats the rez? is it 25x16 or something like that? crazy. |
| 20:41.58 | CIA-8 | 03drool * r55797 10Nauticus/ (15 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:42.00 | CIA-8 | Nauticus: v2.3.1 |
| 20:42.01 | Poof | ooh. geez |
| 20:42.02 | CIA-8 | - tweaked rtts slightly |
| 20:42.04 | CIA-8 | - mmmm... rotatey icons |
| 20:42.20 | Mudkipz | so im watching The Dog Whisperer |
| 20:42.27 | Mudkipz | and hes at the house of this italian family |
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| 20:42.44 | Ellipsis | oh man |
| 20:42.46 | Mudkipz | the mom I think... god shes like pillsberry doughboy fat and pasty white |
| 20:42.48 | aestil | you lost me at 'i'm wathcing the dog whisperer' |
| 20:42.48 | Amadeo | Yes? |
| 20:42.53 | Mudkipz | and her eyebrows are drawn on |
| 20:42.53 | Ellipsis | and the worst part is, the dps warrior is HIGHER THAN THE ROGUE on meters |
| 20:42.55 | Poof | Erm |
| 20:42.56 | Mudkipz | its so gross |
| 20:43.04 | Poof | What're hte numberts for below some of your spells? |
| 20:43.10 | Jerres | okay, thanks...cya |
| 20:43.17 | aestil | dr. dmg probaly |
| 20:43.37 | Mudkipz | it's on discovery channel aestil |
| 20:43.48 | Amadeo | Mudkipz: mmm, Pillsbury |
| 20:43.55 | Mudkipz | this guy rehabilitates dogs and he has a show |
| 20:44.03 | aestil | can show average damage, damage when 'hit' [exclude extra dmg from crits], dmg per second, dmg per second casted [most relevant for me] |
| 20:47.12 | CIA-8 | 03drool * r55798 10Nauticus/changes.txt: Nauticus: update changes.txt |
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| 20:48.54 | aestil | so, enchanted is pretty good. for the type of movie that it is anyways. i laughed pretty hard throughout. |
| 20:49.46 | Mudkipz | I want to see Teeth |
| 20:49.54 | Mudkipz | have you seen the trailer? |
| 20:50.12 | Amadeo | is that the one with the crazy dentist!? |
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| 20:52.12 | Mudkipz | nope |
| 20:52.36 | Amadeo | He's like, you haven't been flossing, have you?! Then he starts attacking with his drill |
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| 20:53.01 | CIA-8 | 03grennon * r55799 10Minimalist/ (Minimalist.lua MinimalistGlobals.lua): Minimalist: -fixed various variable scopes, chat fade cleanup |
| 20:53.13 | Chompers | hex lord time |
| 20:53.30 | Mudkipz | Amadeo, http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809426687/video/5098843/;_ylt=An0mi64nQq2A_oKVzM.tQA9fVXcA |
| 20:53.35 | Chompers | should i know anything before going in? |
| 20:53.43 | Mudkipz | jindo? |
| 20:53.45 | Mudkipz | lol? |
| 20:53.54 | Chompers | lawl |
| 20:54.05 | Chompers | malacrass |
| 20:54.18 | Mudkipz | is that the guy with 4 adds? |
| 20:56.00 | Amadeo | I thought that was a fake trailer at first |
| 20:56.02 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 20:58.02 | Mudkipz | that's like the best movie idea ever |
| 20:58.08 | Mudkipz | I wonder where they got it hehehe |
| 20:58.24 | Amadeo | I kinda like the whole idea behind Awake |
| 20:58.37 | Amadeo | I even had an experience similar to that, just without the planned murder part :P |
| 20:59.08 | kenlyric__ | Amadeo: get out of my house. |
| 20:59.17 | kenlyric__ | you do realize that movie will create a black vortex of acting suck, right? |
| 20:59.22 | kenlyric__ | it may end all life |
| 20:59.29 | Amadeo | I didn't say the movie would be good |
| 20:59.37 | Amadeo | Just that the idea behind it is interesting :) |
| 20:59.42 | kenlyric__ | ok |
| 20:59.44 | kenlyric__ | you can stay. |
| 21:00.01 | Amadeo | Hell no! *rips up the cardboard box*! |
| 21:00.11 | kenlyric__ | crazy dentist. |
| 21:00.14 | kenlyric__ | isn't that Dr. Giggles? |
| 21:01.00 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 21:07.55 | sylvanaar | everyone have a happy Thanksgiving (if you celebrate it)? |
| 21:08.11 | Amadeo | Yep, how about you? |
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| 21:08.54 | jeramy | taint taints my brain |
| 21:08.57 | sylvanaar | yeah, it was quite nice |
| 21:10.11 | jeramy | Execution tainted by Minimalist while reading CURRENT_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES - Interface\FrameXML\BattlefieldFrame.lua:111 BattlefieldFrame_UpdateStatus() |
| 21:10.20 | jeramy | i mean, i dont even do anything with BG stuff |
| 21:10.37 | Kocoro | Does anyone have a working version of, or a decent replacement for Metahud? |
| 21:10.41 | Gagorian | Lukian: Hmm? |
| 21:10.56 | Lukian | Gagorian, dact pact! do it :D |
| 21:10.59 | Lukian | dark* |
| 21:11.02 | dylanm | Kocoro: MetaHud was just updated by the author. |
| 21:11.02 | Gagorian | It's done! |
| 21:11.04 | |Stan| | jeramy: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=post;topic=2595.40;num_replies=58 |
| 21:11.08 | Lukian | oh nice! :D |
| 21:11.11 | Gagorian | Only AB text |
| 21:11.13 | Lukian | much <3 |
| 21:11.19 | Gagorian | cba to put in a custom tooltip |
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| 21:12.38 | jeramy | |Stan|: what about it? |
| 21:14.09 | |Stan| | jeramy: post it there :) the author is pretty active these days, he will see it |
| 21:14.33 | jeramy | i am the author jack |
| 21:14.53 | _rane | is there a better tooltip tweaker than cowtip? |
| 21:15.10 | jeramy | taint tracing baffles me is all |
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| 21:16.35 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r55801 10BankItems/ (BankItems.toc localization-zhCN.lua localization-zhTW.lua): BankItems: update zhCN & zhTW local by isler |
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| 21:19.52 | Kivin | Don't suppose you're here, Nevcairiel |
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| 21:29.58 | kontroll | Hey. Is there a command in Rock to list... "registered" addons? :P |
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| 21:30.13 | markt_ | anybody decide to fix AuraMap yet? =] |
| 21:30.25 | neenee | open rock and see the list of addons in there? |
| 21:30.30 | markt_ | or did sag put you all off? :) |
| 21:31.03 | kontroll | neenee: And what if they don't offer any configurability? ;P |
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| 21:31.14 | kontroll | Will they still be listed? |
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| 21:36.47 | Kivin | an addon isn't listed in rockconfig unless it's supplied a valid config table |
| 21:38.31 | dylanm | There really aren't that many Rock addons. |
| 21:39.02 | dylanm | 1) Is it by ck 2) Is it FlexBar2 3) ... someone help here cos I don't recall any others. |
| 21:39.20 | Kivin | I've got a few addons of little note running that are rock |
| 21:39.40 | Kivin | It's improbable that i'll distro them, though |
| 21:40.38 | Ellipsis | dylanm: Prat uses Rock as well |
| 21:41.00 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: u sure? |
| 21:41.00 | |Stan| | Ellipsis: just the branches version |
| 21:41.44 | Orionshock | Threat has a fall back to rock's event handler iirc |
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| 21:42.09 | lhunath | Does Babble-2.2 provide the dependency of an addon to BabbleLib? |
| 21:42.28 | lhunath | if not; what does? |
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| 21:42.55 | lhunath | if so; maybe somebody needs to revisit the naming scheme ;x |
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| 21:43.17 | CIA-8 | 03paene * r55802 10Cryolysis2/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:43.21 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:43.23 | CIA-8 | -Added localization files for multiple languages |
| 21:43.25 | CIA-8 | -Fixed a localization issue from the Chinese locales update |
| 21:43.27 | CIA-8 | -Removed some commented out code |
| 21:44.25 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55803 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (core.lua localization-enUS.lua): |
| 21:44.26 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 21:44.28 | CIA-8 | -Update Locale methods to actually work, remove references to v5 methods. |
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| 21:46.39 | CIA-8 | 03paene * r55804 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (4 files): |
| 21:46.39 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:46.41 | CIA-8 | -Quick localization fix |
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| 21:50.11 | H1pNot1K | hello all |
| 21:50.21 | H1pNot1K | i have a question about a new ace addon |
| 21:51.09 | H1pNot1K | why critical is not on wowaceupdater? |
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| 21:52.01 | Thelyna | ~seen Tekkub |
| 21:52.07 | purl | tekkub is currently on #wowhead (1h 4m 18s) #wowace (1h 4m 18s) #wowwiki (1h 4m 18s), last said: 'didn't even think to hit google :P'. |
| 21:52.57 | jeramy | Xinhuan: you round? |
| 21:54.43 | jeramy | i finally got an interface_action_blocked in my taint log yay |
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| 22:06.29 | Industrial | any hunters around? |
| 22:06.35 | Industrial | I am 62 nw just got steady shot |
| 22:06.35 | sedatedChipmunk | yo |
| 22:06.53 | |Stan| | yo hc |
| 22:06.57 | Industrial | my speed is 2.0, so 1.7 or so with imp hawk, thats above 1.5 |
| 22:07.11 | Industrial | im steasy hotting auto shot steady suto etcetc |
| 22:07.23 | Industrial | this shot crits WAY more then my normal shots |
| 22:07.40 | Lukian | Industrial, is arcane shot in your rotation? |
| 22:07.44 | Industrial | woah typos |
| 22:07.52 | Lukian | You might want a slower gun/bow |
| 22:07.58 | Industrial | currently not Lukian, mobs are practically dead 4 secs after I attack |
| 22:08.19 | Lukian | Industrial, hahah nice |
| 22:08.44 | Industrial | Ellipsis: ned mroe cfaenie! |
| 22:08.58 | Ellipsis | I'm making my second pot of coffee, want some? |
| 22:09.11 | Thelyna | Industrial: yeah, steady shot is pwn |
| 22:09.32 | Thelyna | slower weapons make getting a steady in without delaying the auto easier |
| 22:09.48 | Thelyna | and arcane shot is kinda a waste of mana for grinding |
| 22:10.49 | Industrial | like this? :P http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24389 |
| 22:13.14 | Industrial | gunna try this one http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7836 :o |
| 22:14.19 | Thelyna | and yeah, that gun is nice |
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| 22:14.27 | Industrial | Ellipsis: nah I got some :> |
| 22:15.12 | Obelixprime | Industrial: Does that work for a shadowpriest? |
| 22:15.13 | Ellipsis | bet it's not as strong as mine :P |
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| 22:17.03 | Industrial | Obelixprime: no dont think so |
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| 22:17.13 | Industrial | its in the hunter mods category |
| 22:17.15 | Pkekyo| | morning all |
| 22:17.19 | Industrial | morning Pkekyo| |
| 22:17.40 | Industrial | Ellipsis: 31mg/100ml |
| 22:17.42 | Industrial | Ellipsis: >:P |
| 22:17.48 | Thelyna | Industrial: you could generalise the concept pretty easily |
| 22:18.01 | Ellipsis | Industrial: most people describe my coffee as chewy |
| 22:18.09 | Thelyna | but there's a macro that trivialises BM shot rotations (with a slow weapon) |
| 22:18.15 | Thelyna | you can literally spam the button |
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| 22:18.22 | Pkekyo| | 31mg/100ml? anyone on chems? :p |
| 22:18.29 | Deviad | Is Cryolisis2 being fixed any time soon? It isn't just possibile to assign any action to the empty buttons |
| 22:18.35 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: caffeine |
| 22:18.39 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: in my can |
| 22:19.05 | Industrial | Thelyna: ok ill scour the forums a bit |
| 22:19.06 | Pkekyo| | not as fun as I imagined then |
| 22:19.28 | Lukian | Thelyna, link macro! |
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| 22:20.55 | jeramy | so, somehow i am tainting a global variable that i do not reference, nor hook the function used to populate it |
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| 22:21.04 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 22:21.11 | Xinhuan | just woke up, 6am ^^ |
| 22:21.19 | Arrowmaster | what variable are you tainting? |
| 22:21.35 | jeramy | alright, line 900 of floatingchatframe.lua is CURSOR_OLD_X, CURSOR_OLD_Y = GetCursorPosition(); |
| 22:21.43 | jeramy | and apparently, im tainting both somehow |
| 22:21.51 | Shirik | did you hook GetCursorPosition() ? |
| 22:22.08 | jeramy | absolutely not |
| 22:22.14 | Shirik | ok then what about the lines above it |
| 22:22.19 | Nargiddley | it could be something above that call that it reads |
| 22:22.21 | Shirik | I'm willing to bet that's not where the taint occurs |
| 22:22.31 | Shirik | s/occurs/originates/ |
| 22:22.41 | Xinhuan | FCF.lua is called just at the end of UIParent_ManageFramePositions() btw |
| 22:22.42 | Pkekyo| | so...anything fun happening in the world of wowace nowadays? |
| 22:22.45 | jeramy | that last thing before it was a full minute before |
| 22:23.07 | Xinhuan | am i aupposed t debug something? |
| 22:23.36 | Pkekyo| | always |
| 22:23.51 | Xinhuan | hm |
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| 22:25.38 | Funkeh` | nymbia, around? |
| 22:26.56 | nymbia | Funkeh`: sup |
| 22:30.07 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
| 22:30.07 | Pkekyo| | ska is a weird music genre |
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| 22:42.07 | Gnarfoz | ska is a music genre? |
| 22:42.44 | Chompers | so this zul gin guy is a fun encounter |
| 22:42.51 | Chompers | lots of different phases |
| 22:43.24 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: uh yes.. |
| 22:43.34 | Ellipsis | wow |
| 22:43.38 | Ellipsis | a green shield of shadow wrath |
| 22:43.42 | Ellipsis | why? |
| 22:43.51 | Gnarfoz | because they can! |
| 22:44.01 | Ellipsis | srsly |
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| 22:46.53 | durcyn | Ellipsis: deathknight shield |
| 22:49.00 | Ellipsis | yeah...a level 27 deathknight shield |
| 22:49.02 | Ellipsis | woot >_> |
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| 22:52.16 | Deviad | Is Cryolisis2 being fixed any time soon? It isn't just possibile to assign any action to the empty buttons |
| 22:52.27 | Lukian | Deathknight tank with a 2h :p |
| 22:52.35 | Deviad | Is Cryolisis2 being fixed any time soon? It isn't possibile at all to assign any action to the empty buttons |
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| 22:55.33 | Dara | Is Bigwigs officially broken or did I drink too much? |
| 22:57.19 | Gnarfoz | just saw something about a LoD thingy... 2 errors right on startup |
| 22:57.27 | Gnarfoz | dunno if it actually works or not :. |
| 22:58.02 | Funkeh` | what errors? |
| 22:58.37 | Gnarfoz | let me check SV, I'm already back out ^^ |
| 22:59.29 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: that'd be these two: http://ace.pastey.net/77904 |
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| 23:00.46 | Ellipsis | is there a way to hide PvP objectives on the zone map thing? |
| 23:00.51 | Ellipsis | or do I need an addon to fix it >_> |
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| 23:01.56 | Xinhuan | no way to hide it. |
| 23:02.13 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55805 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: bugfix |
| 23:02.17 | Xinhuan | its part of the default UI's code to show them |
| 23:02.28 | Ellipsis | grrr |
| 23:02.33 | Xinhuan | the entire code for the zonemap is just a replica of the World Map when you press M |
| 23:02.44 | Xinhuan | just cut and pasted into the small frame |
| 23:02.45 | Ellipsis | yeah but you can hide the pvp objectives on the big map |
| 23:02.45 | Funkeh` | fixed, back to leveling |
| 23:02.52 | Ellipsis | that option apparently doesn't apply to the little one though |
| 23:02.54 | Xinhuan | you can? since when |
| 23:02.56 | Ellipsis | um |
| 23:02.59 | Ellipsis | interface options ftw? |
| 23:03.05 | Ellipsis | display pvp objectives -> never |
| 23:03.16 | Xinhuan | i thought that only applies to the top of the screen? |
| 23:03.21 | Xinhuan | where the zone objective is displayed |
| 23:03.30 | Xinhuan | like "ALliance - 2 towers" |
| 23:03.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I thought that was for that, too |
| 23:03.38 | Ellipsis | er, doesn't it hide the ones on the map too? |
| 23:03.39 | Xinhuan | "Horde - 3 towers" in terrokar |
| 23:03.43 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 23:03.45 | Xinhuan | it doesn't hide the map |
| 23:04.01 | Xinhuan | the map always shows objectives |
| 23:04.01 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 23:04.08 | Ellipsis | can't check atm but I'll take your word for it |
| 23:04.17 | Xinhuan | you can do a post-hook to hide those POI textures though |
| 23:04.24 | Ellipsis | yeah, know of anything that does that? |
| 23:04.30 | Ellipsis | preferably for both big map and zone map |
| 23:04.30 | Xinhuan | not that i'm aware of |
| 23:04.35 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 23:05.03 | Xinhuan | each zone has an arbitrary number of POIs |
| 23:05.17 | Xinhuan | in Terrokar this is the 5 towers - in Zangermarsh, there are 3 |
| 23:05.22 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 23:05.25 | Xinhuan | in WSG, there are up to 3 - but not constant |
| 23:05.30 | Ellipsis | I don't care about bgs |
| 23:05.36 | kontroll | But the Terokkar towers are only displayed when they can be capped, ye? |
| 23:05.40 | Ellipsis | I just want to get all pvp-related stuff off my carebear screen |
| 23:05.51 | Xinhuan | kontroll, yes, but they are still POIs |
| 23:06.00 | Xinhuan | its just that the texture displayed is a grey tower |
| 23:06.04 | Xinhuan | rather than a blue or red one |
| 23:06.24 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: since it sounds like you know the code, would it be easy to iterate through all POIs to hide them? |
| 23:06.28 | Xinhuan | in WSG and EOTS, holding a flag on your teammate creates an extra POI |
| 23:06.28 | kontroll | I didn't say anything about that. Merely trying to point out that there should be a way to toggle them already. :) |
| 23:06.32 | Xinhuan | for that flag |
| 23:07.00 | Ellipsis | ignoring bg weirdness, though? |
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| 23:07.02 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't be too difficult to have a securehook on the function to interate though them and hide |
| 23:07.06 | Ellipsis | (since I don't go to bg's anyway) |
| 23:07.17 | Xinhuan | that checks if you are in a BG |
| 23:07.35 | Xinhuan | the default UI uses an array of POI objects and reuses them |
| 23:07.41 | Ellipsis | awesome |
| 23:07.43 | Xinhuan | and creates extras on demand if needed |
| 23:07.55 | Xinhuan | pretty surprised at that actually |
| 23:08.04 | Ellipsis | I don't care about checks in BG and stuff, for all I care it can hang my client when I go to a BG |
| 23:09.47 | Xinhuan | they are just textures, just make a loop to go through all of them, _G["blah"..i] and hide |
| 23:11.12 | Ellipsis | hmkay, thanks for the help Xinhuan |
| 23:12.21 | Xinhuan | oh another thing |
| 23:12.32 | Xinhuan | pvp objectives will never show up if you leave the channel "LocalDefense" |
| 23:12.40 | Ellipsis | I'm not in localdefense |
| 23:12.54 | Ellipsis | I'm *never* in localdefense |
| 23:12.57 | Xinhuan | i'm saying they are linked though |
| 23:13.08 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 23:13.21 | Ellipsis | if they're linked then why are they still showing for me |
| 23:13.33 | Xinhuan | they will show up on the map, just not at the top |
| 23:13.37 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 23:13.43 | Xinhuan | you won't see a capture-bar for eg |
| 23:13.43 | Ellipsis | that doesn't matter, I already disabled the text |
| 23:13.50 | Xinhuan | if you are at a capturing tower |
| 23:14.01 | Ellipsis | I won't see that anyway since I don't flag |
| 23:14.03 | Xinhuan | if you aren't in localdefense |
| 23:14.13 | Xinhuan | you also have to be flagged first of course |
| 23:14.18 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 23:14.18 | Xinhuan | to see them |
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| 23:14.23 | Ellipsis | exactly |
| 23:14.36 | Xinhuan | you might want to flag yourself just to see how it all works ;p |
| 23:14.43 | Ellipsis | all I care about are the stupid POIs, it's pretty much the last thing left to remind me of how I'm supposed to be PvPing on a PvE server |
| 23:14.51 | Ellipsis | I don't care how it works when I'm flagged |
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| 23:15.02 | Ellipsis | I only care about how it works when I'm not flagged, since I'm never flagged |
| 23:15.14 | Xinhuan | its a pretty good idea actually, voluntary pvp |
| 23:15.32 | Ellipsis | except when they try to make it mandatory |
| 23:15.33 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 23:15.40 | buu | Xinhuan: Flagging should remain on for like 5 days. |
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| 23:16.22 | buu | And certain quests and such should flag you. |
| 23:16.36 | Ellipsis | go die in a fire buu |
| 23:16.45 | buu | Ellipsis: That's hot, will you come with me? |
| 23:16.48 | Ellipsis | quests should never flag you unless they're PvP quests |
| 23:16.58 | Ellipsis | which shouldn't exist at all on a PvE server imo, but that's a different issue |
| 23:18.13 | aestil | Ellipsis: you QQ over PvP alot for someone on a pvp server. |
| 23:18.18 | Ellipsis | ...what? |
| 23:18.27 | aestil | :) |
| 23:18.35 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't be caught dead on a PvP server |
| 23:18.40 | aestil | i'm just poking fun at you. |
| 23:18.46 | aestil | there is hardly any pvp on a pvp server. |
| 23:19.10 | kontroll | PVP server of fail. *shrug* |
| 23:19.11 | Ellipsis | I don't care if there's "hardly" any |
| 23:19.12 | aestil | but anyways, look. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7765-AestilUI-PetClassUI.html |
| 23:19.13 | kontroll | or fail* |
| 23:19.14 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 23:19.15 | aestil | i'm a follower. |
| 23:19.19 | Ellipsis | zomgz |
| 23:19.59 | buu | World pvp is goddamn dumb. |
| 23:20.01 | aestil | its sorta embarassing that i did that. i refuse to put the link to it in my sig though :) |
| 23:20.06 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 23:20.09 | Ellipsis | good boy |
| 23:20.25 | aestil | i am rather proud of it though. |
| 23:20.31 | aestil | i isn't really pretty, but its efficient. |
| 23:20.52 | buu | aestil: I've never managed to move my unit frames to the middle. |
| 23:21.04 | buu | Ellipsis: Don't get me wrong, I detest the usual definition of pvp. |
| 23:21.18 | buu | Ellipsis: But properly done quests and such could make it interesting. |
| 23:21.23 | buu | Also make city bosses drop lewt. |
| 23:21.42 | aestil | buu play conan? |
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| 23:22.43 | buu | aestil: No. |
| 23:22.49 | Ellipsis | city bosses isn't pvp |
| 23:22.53 | Ellipsis | they are npcs, and thus pve |
| 23:23.00 | buu | Well, they force pvp. |
| 23:23.04 | Ellipsis | not really |
| 23:23.12 | Ellipsis | if nobody defends it's just pve |
| 23:23.17 | buu | Well, if you don't mind not being able to repair ina city, sure. |
| 23:23.20 | Ellipsis | it's the players that turn it into pvp (if they choose to) |
| 23:23.35 | buu | The trick is to make pvp have consequences. |
| 23:23.38 | buu | It has fuck all now. |
| 23:24.10 | Ellipsis | I don't care what they do to pvp as long as they keep it out of my way |
| 23:24.24 | Ellipsis | as it is, they try to force it on us even when we play on PvE servers |
| 23:25.10 | aestil | what flag's you on a pve server? |
| 23:25.38 | aestil | Ellipsis: you did arena's for S2 sword right? |
| 23:25.42 | Kocoro | attacking something with a pvp flag up |
| 23:26.03 | Ellipsis | aestil: I have never been into an arena or bg |
| 23:26.26 | Ellipsis | I do not flag if at all avoidable (i.e., only if my raid leader forces me to soulstone someone flagged) |
| 23:27.36 | Xinhuan | why are you so paranoid of pvp |
| 23:27.37 | aestil | thats a shame, the S2 mace is really good for PvE |
| 23:28.16 | Xinhuan | there should never have been pve servers in the first place, its a world of conflict |
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| 23:28.53 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: because I don't like pvp |
| 23:29.09 | Ellipsis | aestil: that's why I hate Blizz, forcing us to PvP for PvE gera |
| 23:29.10 | Ellipsis | gear* |
| 23:29.13 | Ellipsis | also: I can't use maces, nub |
| 23:29.23 | aestil | i meant sword. |
| 23:29.23 | Xinhuan | actually all arena gear is good for pve |
| 23:29.26 | aestil | also dagger is really good. |
| 23:29.28 | Xinhuan | even the arena shield is good for tanking |
| 23:29.34 | buu | Xinhuan: Well, most of it isn't for dps classes. |
| 23:29.38 | buu | Too many wasted ilvls. |
| 23:29.39 | aestil | Xinhuan: outside of th eweapons, they are only 'ok' |
| 23:29.42 | Xinhuan | for the weapons its ok |
| 23:29.43 | buu | The weapons are just broken. |
| 23:29.50 | Xinhuan | i meant only the weapons btw |
| 23:30.05 | Xinhuan | the glad staff beats anything you can get in TK/SSC |
| 23:30.11 | aestil | Xinhuan: all arena gear != just the weapons. |
| 23:30.13 | buu | They should have made the rating requirements retroactive to all weapons. |
| 23:30.18 | aestil | staffs suck. get mh/oh |
| 23:30.23 | Xinhuan | i missed out the word there ;p |
| 23:30.29 | Xinhuan | "all arena weapons" |
| 23:30.34 | aestil | i know :) |
| 23:31.04 | Ellipsis | PvP rewards should be upgrades for PvP sets and sidegrades at best for PvE |
| 23:31.10 | buu | Ellipsis: Duh. |
| 23:31.23 | Ellipsis | well if that's so "duh" why doesn't Blizz get it |
| 23:31.27 | buu | Ellipsis:"LEWL LETS MAKE THE WELFARE EPIX HAVE 30 HIGHER ILVLS THAN PVE GEAR" |
| 23:31.32 | buu | Different itemization teams. |
| 23:31.33 | Civrock | So, the author of Outfitter is looking for somebody to take over. It's still the best outfit management mod IMO... somebody should take up on that offer and Ace it. ;) |
| 23:31.53 | Civrock | lol |
| 23:32.02 | Xinhuan | Civrock, what advanatges/features does outfitter have |
| 23:32.09 | Xinhuan | over itemrack or warrobe or closetgnome |
| 23:32.10 | kontroll | What's wrong with ClosetGnome? |
| 23:32.17 | Xinhuan | wardrobe* |
| 23:32.26 | Civrock | Tried all of them, didn't like 'em. |
| 23:32.33 | Xinhuan | there must be a reason |
| 23:32.44 | Xinhuan | why is OutFitter better for you? |
| 23:32.45 | Ellipsis | "didn't like em" is a little vague |
| 23:32.49 | Civrock | Easy to use, especially the character screen part. |
| 23:32.57 | aestil | and ace it, is the part which fails imo. |
| 23:32.59 | Xinhuan | how does it work |
| 23:33.06 | Xinhuan | what makes it easy to use? |
| 23:33.32 | Antiarc | ...hahah, ouch |
| 23:33.33 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2967996634&sid=1 |
| 23:33.37 | Civrock | You can just drag items into slots and check them to use for specific outfits, hard to explain. |
| 23:33.42 | Antiarc | Possibly the biggest ninja in WoW to date. |
| 23:33.44 | Civrock | Also, the script feature. |
| 23:33.52 | Ellipsis | Civrock: sounds a lot like closetgnome's interface to me |
| 23:33.53 | aestil | Ellipsis: pvp rewards are mostly sidegrades for PvE, at best. but, on the other hand, there are the weapons, which are generally clear PvE upgrades. |
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| 23:34.02 | Civrock | I tried CG, not at all. |
| 23:34.11 | buu | aestil: It's mostly the ilvls. |
| 23:34.13 | kontroll | Weapons are hard to itemize for PVE/PVP exclusively. :P |
| 23:34.16 | xystic | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korialstrasz&n=Xigan Does that look decent to tank Kara? |
| 23:34.19 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 23:34.27 | Xinhuan | raided 2.5 years loyal member ninja looted? |
| 23:34.30 | buu | kontroll: Yeah, they had to add dps to weapons or we'd have even longer matches. |
| 23:34.59 | |Stan| | Xinhuan: o rly? |
| 23:35.07 | Xinhuan | that's what the thread said |
| 23:35.09 | |Stan| | oops |
| 23:35.10 | Xinhuan | Antiarc linked |
| 23:35.12 | |Stan| | yeah sry |
| 23:35.18 | |Stan| | < was not paying attention |
| 23:35.29 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: That's a hell of a bounty to ninja though. |
| 23:35.36 | kontroll | Gear == easymode to itemize what with res and all those stats nowadays. |
| 23:35.41 | Ellipsis | aestil: are the weapons somehow excluded from the category of "pvp rewards"? |
| 23:36.02 | Ellipsis | they should be nerfed and/or given PvP-oriented stats so they're useless for raiders |
| 23:36.11 | Xinhuan | they already have pvp stats Ellipsis |
| 23:36.16 | Lukian | who's the Icehud author? |
| 23:36.16 | Xinhuan | you don't pvp, you prob don't understand |
| 23:36.33 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: all I'm saying is they should not be upgrades for PvEers |
| 23:36.37 | Xinhuan | high stamina, high resilience = any pvp weapon |
| 23:36.46 | Xinhuan | high stamina is desirable in pve too |
| 23:36.47 | Antiarc | What they NEED is better PVE weapon itemization |
| 23:36.52 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 23:36.55 | Xinhuan | what antiarc said |
| 23:36.56 | Ellipsis | that would work too |
| 23:37.05 | aestil | Ellipsis: for weapons, there really isn't that much of a 'pvp' stat orrientation. either it does dmg or it doesn't. the pvp staff is pretty shittacular for PvE. but the 1h's don't follow the 'high stam' point spending, and therefore are very attractive. |
| 23:37.06 | Ellipsis | I don't care how they accomplish it, I just don't want to be forced to PvP |
| 23:37.11 | Antiarc | Until ZA, the only rogue offhand between Black Morass (non-heroic) and Black Temple (Mother Shahraz) was the Gladiator offhand/ |
| 23:37.22 | Xinhuan | the simple fact is that at the moment, the gladiator weapons > the pve weapons |
| 23:37.26 | Antiarc | That's sorta retarded to jump from 71 DPS to 103 DPS. |
| 23:37.28 | aestil | Antiarc: are you MH fists/ OH swords yet? |
| 23:37.30 | Xinhuan | EVEN though there are 20-30 resilience worth |
| 23:37.33 | Antiarc | Nah, still swords |
| 23:37.35 | neenee | I don't want to be forced to raid to get good items. |
| 23:37.37 | Xinhuan | of ilvls on those weapons |
| 23:37.52 | Antiarc | I'm thinking of picking up an MH S3 mace |
| 23:37.56 | Xinhuan | and an extra 20 or so budget points on stamina |
| 23:37.59 | Antiarc | And using my Swiftsteel Bludgeon and going maces |
| 23:38.06 | Lukian | Iceroth, ping |
| 23:38.17 | Xinhuan | compare the gladiator staff vs magtheridon healing staff |
| 23:38.25 | Xinhuan | glad one beats mag one hands down |
| 23:38.43 | Xinhuan | and that's just season 1 glad staff |
| 23:39.21 | Xinhuan | the availability of pvp weapons changes the pve loot dkp pricing substantially |
| 23:39.30 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 23:39.46 | Chompers | no sword off malacrass tonight :< |
| 23:39.58 | durcyn | clever |
| 23:40.00 | Chompers | there's no decent main hand weapons at all |
| 23:40.01 | Mudkipz | that's exacty one of my biggest problems with those arena weapons |
| 23:40.05 | neenee | er, Xinhuan, the war staff? |
| 23:40.13 | Chompers | well, that are easy to get |
| 23:40.15 | Xinhuan | ya i was talking about the healing one |
| 23:40.28 | neenee | hm. Haven't seen that one yet |
| 23:40.31 | neenee | There's a damage/healing one |
| 23:40.33 | Xinhuan | they aren't that easy to get in season 3 at least |
| 23:40.41 | Xinhuan | 1800 rating required |
| 23:40.44 | Mudkipz | when did pvp loot become equal or even greater to pve counterparts |
| 23:40.48 | Chompers | go go vindicators brand :P |
| 23:40.53 | Mudkipz | when it takes way more work to get pve gear |
| 23:41.13 | Mudkipz | and I'm talking about weapons ofc |
| 23:41.20 | Xinhuan | the design wasn't too bad |
| 23:41.34 | Mudkipz | ya but season 3 isn't even out yet |
| 23:41.45 | Xinhuan | pve weapons - most people will still use a pvp weapon over a pve one in arena |
| 23:41.46 | Mudkipz | for example the stranglestaff |
| 23:41.49 | Pkekyo| | anyone here beaten Crysis? |
| 23:41.52 | Xinhuan | unless you have some OP warglaive |
| 23:42.12 | Mudkipz | yeah |
| 23:42.39 | Mudkipz | so I can't get my mind around how they made arena weapons so good |
| 23:42.47 | Ellipsis | huh, not every day you see a hunter bring a gorilla pet to a 5man |
| 23:42.52 | Mudkipz | you don't need organize raids |
| 23:43.02 | Mudkipz | play 10 games a week, keep a decent rating |
| 23:43.07 | Mudkipz | and your weapons comes to you |
| 23:43.11 | Mudkipz | no needing for it to drop |
| 23:43.14 | Mudkipz | fight over another class |
| 23:43.19 | Mudkipz | etc etc |
| 23:43.41 | Xinhuan | the pve weapons still offer epeen status |
| 23:43.47 | Xinhuan | since anyone can get the pvp ones |
| 23:43.52 | Xinhuan | often through point buying |
| 23:43.54 | Mudkipz | yes epeen |
| 23:44.02 | kenlyric | i need a mod just like friendsfu for custom channels |
| 23:44.06 | Pkekyo| | epeen ftw...gorehowl! |
| 23:44.28 | Mudkipz | our shadow priests seem to want the s3 mace |
| 23:44.32 | Pkekyo| | noone here beat crysis yet? :< |
| 23:44.34 | Mudkipz | or is it the staff I not so sure |
| 23:44.46 | dylanm | Most likely the mace |
| 23:44.47 | Chompers | yes Pkekyo| |
| 23:44.52 | Mudkipz | but a BT guild wanting to keep arena points so they get upgrades from a pvp weapon |
| 23:44.54 | Chompers | it sucked 3/4 onwards |
| 23:44.59 | Mudkipz | something is wrong with that |
| 23:45.00 | Xinhuan | the way they are making season 1 gear available via honor next week |
| 23:45.03 | Deviad | Is Cryolisis2 being fixed any time soon? It isn't possibile at all to assign any action to the empty buttons. |
| 23:45.06 | Pkekyo| | Chompers: you know in the tunnel (first alien level) where the lights get turned off...where to go? |
| 23:45.12 | Xinhuan | nobody would even care or bother about gruul/kara loot now |
| 23:45.24 | Mudkipz | everything high end rating acquired should be exceptionally better than anything in the game |
| 23:45.41 | Mudkipz | if I should get a new staff, I should feel like I just got a warglaives or something... |
| 23:45.43 | Xinhuan | that makes casual cries Mudkipz |
| 23:45.45 | Chompers | i can't remember Pkekyo|, i just wandered around till i found an exit |
| 23:45.49 | dylanm | kenlyric: That'd be a bit harder... since the game doesn't give you free info on people in your chat channel so you'd have to do a lot of /who |
| 23:46.07 | Pkekyo| | I don't have that luxury...I've run out of ammo, so I just get killed constantly >.< |
| 23:46.23 | kenlyric | a who when you join the game, and the game notifies you when someone joins the channel. |
| 23:46.28 | Mudkipz | Xinhuan, I know there should be a line drawn somewhere |
| 23:46.41 | Xinhuan | well, no matter where the line is drawn |
| 23:46.44 | Xinhuan | there will always be complaints |
| 23:47.03 | dylanm | kenlyric: I thought you'd want up-to-date positions and levels and stuff |
| 23:47.08 | Xinhuan | so blizzard drew the line already |
| 23:47.09 | Wobin | damn you bigwigs fix =P |
| 23:47.21 | kenlyric | not particularly |
| 23:47.32 | kenlyric | that would be version 2. |
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| 23:49.45 | Ironhand | my guild is currently using CharacterProfiler combined with WoWRoster to gather info about characters & bank contents, however with the new guild bank as well as the Armory, this is becoming almost totally redundant - with one exception, and that is the database of who in the guild can craft which items. Can someone recommend a more straightforward way to keep track of just this information across a guild? |
| 23:50.25 | kebinusan | Ironhand: Notepad |
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| 23:50.28 | kebinusan | or a Forum post |
| 23:51.33 | FireAllianceNX | well, the armory doesn't really keep track of who left and who joined :) |
| 23:51.45 | Ironhand | no but the in-game log does now ;-) |
| 23:51.48 | Xinhuan | Ironhand: forum post, or their professions by armory |
| 23:51.54 | Xinhuan | or you can use the guild note |
| 23:52.09 | Xinhuan | just add in brackets after their guild note their professions |
| 23:52.16 | Xinhuan | like (E/J) for Enchanting/Jewelcrafting |
| 23:52.25 | Xinhuan | and (A/H) for Alchemy/Herbalism |
| 23:52.29 | FireAllianceNX | what in-game log? |
| 23:52.35 | Ironhand | notepad as in the windows program, or is it an actual addon? |
| 23:52.50 | Xinhuan | FireAllianceNX: open your "guild info" and hit the "log" button |
| 23:52.54 | Ironhand | FireAllianceNX: new button on the Guild Information thing |
| 23:53.01 | FireAllianceNX | oh really |
| 23:53.14 | FireAllianceNX | GM Access only? |
| 23:53.29 | Ironhand | I'm GM but can also see it on my alts - so I'd say not |
| 23:53.43 | FireAllianceNX | does it track their Officer Note? |
| 23:53.58 | FireAllianceNX | otherwise it's sorta useless |
| 23:54.06 | Ironhand | Xinhuan: well, professions I can also find on armory, it's mostly specific known recipes I'm trying to keep track of |
| 23:54.18 | Xinhuan | no real way of doing that then |
| 23:54.20 | Ironhand | no it doesn't, and how would that make it useless? |
| 23:54.38 | Ironhand | nah, was afraid so... but never hurts to ask :-) |
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| 23:54.41 | Xinhuan | do it manually |
| 23:54.43 | Ellipsis | I usually just use: /g can anyone make ____? |
| 23:54.57 | FireAllianceNX | someone's alt left and no one could figure out who it was, and the info is in the officer's note |
| 23:54.59 | Xinhuan | after 2-3 months you will roughly know who can make what anyway ;p |
| 23:55.02 | nevcairiel | we have that stuff in our eqdkp plus |
| 23:55.15 | Ironhand | Ellipsis: so do I, guess I should add a guild rule that one has to be online 24/7 :-) |
| 23:55.49 | Ironhand | FireAllianceNX: what's worse, if someone deletes their character, all log entries will be changed to use "Unknown" |
| 23:56.34 | FireAllianceNX | well, that's not helpful. lol |
| 23:56.39 | Ellipsis | so...create alt, steal all the guild's stuff, send to main, delete alt |
| 23:56.42 | Ellipsis | win! |
| 23:56.49 | Ironhand | it's still helpful, just not quite as helpful as it could possibly be |
| 23:56.54 | FireAllianceNX | yeah |
| 23:57.37 | Xinhuan | at least you will know who promoted/ginvited that Unknown person |
| 23:57.43 | Xinhuan | so you can start tracing from there |
| 23:57.59 | Ironhand | it does have the advantage that it also shows whether someone was kicked or left, etc |
| 23:58.00 | Ellipsis | unless there are multiple unknowns in the log :) |
| 23:58.15 | buu | Ellipsis: Don't forget the officer abuse! |
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| 23:59.35 | Xinhuan | is there a policy page somewhere on blizzard's website on what rules players are bound by with regards to the Guild Bank? |
| 23:59.55 | Xinhuan | if an officer takes half of the items in it, gquits and joins another guild, will Blizzard GMs do anything about it? |
| 23:59.59 | *** part/#wowace Obelixprime (n=Obelixpr@63.73.69.132) |
