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| 00:00.39 | Xinhuan | [11/26 07:57:42] <Xinhuan> the issue is in your !ap formula for 3v3s and 2v2s |
| 00:00.40 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 00:01.52 | Lywellyn | Tehrock: It's one of the menu options for each of the 12 bars |
| 00:01.56 | Thrae | Right, I was having problems with reversing the equation -- I think Blizzard might have done it wrong themselves |
| 00:03.18 | Tehrock | oh and NOW it works |
| 00:03.26 | Thrae | !ap 2000 |
| 00:03.26 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 801, 3v3: 928, 5v5: 1054 |
| 00:03.31 | Thrae | !ar 1000 |
| 00:03.32 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 1000 points is, 2v2: 1490, 3v3: 1725, 5v5: 1960 |
| 00:03.55 | Tehrock | maybe it was because I didn't use winrar to extract it...although that seems far fetched |
| 00:04.00 | Antiarc | Err |
| 00:04.09 | Antiarc | I'm pretty certain those values are wrong, Thrae |
| 00:04.22 | Antiarc | My 3v3 is around 1725 and we got 600 and change this week |
| 00:04.44 | Xinhuan | <self-promotion>use !rating and !points</self-promotion> |
| 00:05.43 | Pkekyo| | :> |
| 00:06.08 | Xinhuan | i'm fairly sure 1490 rating doesn't give you 1000 points in a 2v2 :P |
| 00:07.12 | Xinhuan | thrae, you need to divide by 0.76 or 0.88 first, for 2s and 3s, before you do the inverse calc |
| 00:07.16 | ulic | wow that would be nice. |
| 00:07.17 | Xinhuan | that's all |
| 00:07.52 | Xinhuan | the inverse formula threshold is then at 344 |
| 00:08.09 | Thrae | !ar 1000 |
| 00:08.09 | Xinhuan | for using the formula |
| 00:08.09 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 1000 points is, 2v2: 1800, 3v3: 1878, 5v5: 1960 |
| 00:08.23 | Pkekyo| | must be dreadful to have 'Gay' be your name |
| 00:09.38 | DreadWingKnight | umm |
| 00:09.40 | Pkekyo| | don't think an 1878 rating would give you 1k points |
| 00:09.43 | DreadWingKnight | that looks backwards |
| 00:09.59 | Thrae | !ar 1000 |
| 00:10.00 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 1000 points is, 2v2: 2579, 3v3: 2227, 5v5: 1960 |
| 00:10.03 | Thrae | There we go. |
| 00:10.14 | Pkekyo| | seems more reasonable |
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| 00:10.21 | Thrae | Wait, still not right. |
| 00:10.22 | Pkekyo| | !points 1000 |
| 00:10.22 | Xinhuan | 1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating. |
| 00:10.39 | Thrae | Xinhuan's formula is off by 1 |
| 00:10.56 | Xinhuan | your formula is off by a few hundred ;p |
| 00:11.39 | Thrae | Better to be totally wrong and say you're wrong then to be slightly wrong and say you're right ;) |
| 00:11.39 | Pkekyo| | lols |
| 00:12.02 | Pkekyo| | lols |
| 00:12.25 | Pkekyo| | well, he've admitted it's off by one on several occasions that I've seen |
| 00:12.27 | Xinhuan | mine gives an overestimation by 1 point, so the user cannot complain |
| 00:12.38 | Xinhuan | about rounding errors |
| 00:12.55 | Xinhuan | when they get 1 point short from their weapons :P |
| 00:13.33 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 00:13.50 | Pkekyo| | now that'd be painful |
| 00:13.55 | Thrae | The inverse should be ln((1511.26/p/m)-1/1639.28/-0.00412 |
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| 00:14.24 | Thrae | Where p is points and m is the mod on the points (0.76, 0.88, 0.9, 1) |
| 00:14.40 | Xinhuan | no it isn't thrae, the formula is different on te threshold |
| 00:14.51 | Thrae | I'm talking above 344 points |
| 00:15.03 | Thrae | !ar 300 |
| 00:15.03 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 300 points is, 2v2: 1731, 3v3: 1486, 5v5: 1300 |
| 00:15.11 | Xinhuan | you have to check that p/m is above 344 first |
| 00:15.37 | Thrae | Crap, that's not right |
| 00:15.48 | Xinhuan | also |
| 00:15.51 | Xinhuan | you need a brackets |
| 00:15.55 | Xinhuan | around (blah - 1) |
| 00:16.01 | Diao | lol |
| 00:16.03 | Xinhuan | where blah is (1511.26/p/m) |
| 00:16.09 | Diao | what's .9 mod for |
| 00:16.13 | Diao | o_O |
| 00:16.19 | Xinhuan | you totally fail at reverse formulas :P |
| 00:16.31 | Ellipsis | that's what she said |
| 00:17.11 | Pkekyo| | WOOOOOOOO |
| 00:17.15 | Xinhuan | you also need another () brackets so that you perform the ln() |
| 00:17.23 | Xinhuan | before you divide by -0.00412 |
| 00:17.52 | Xinhuan | if ($1 >= 344) { return $calc( $log( $calc(((1511.26 / $1) - 1) / 1639.28) ) / -0.00412 ) |
| 00:18.08 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Brackets? There's no abs involved |
| 00:18.18 | Xinhuan | you're doing the order wrong |
| 00:18.28 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, can't we just do some 5+5s or something? 10*10? please? :< |
| 00:18.33 | Xinhuan | you are performing 1/1639.28/-0.00412 |
| 00:18.38 | Xinhuan | and deducting that constant value off |
| 00:18.39 | Thrae | Oh, it's right in my code, I just didn't type it out correctly |
| 00:19.54 | Thrae | !ar 300 |
| 00:19.54 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 300 points is, 2v2: 1545, 3v3: 1486, 5v5: 1300 |
| 00:20.06 | Xinhuan | rofl, i just checked glorylib, the formula in there isn't updated. |
| 00:20.12 | Xinhuan | major fail |
| 00:20.17 | Thrae | math.max(0,math.ceil(math.log(((1511.26/points)-1)/1639.28)/-0.00412)) |
| 00:20.56 | Xinhuan | that looks correct |
| 00:21.02 | Thrae | !ar 1000 |
| 00:21.02 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 1000 points is, 2v2: 2260, 3v3: 2066, 5v5: 1960 |
| 00:21.16 | Pkekyo| | !ap 2000 |
| 00:21.17 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo|: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 801, 3v3: 928, 5v5: 1054 |
| 00:21.33 | Pkekyo| | seems reasonable now |
| 00:21.41 | Pkekyo| | !points 1000 |
| 00:21.43 | Xinhuan | 1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating. |
| 00:21.44 | Pkekyo| | !rating 2000 |
| 00:21.57 | Thrae | Mine's not off by one neener-neener |
| 00:22.09 | Thrae | But below 344 is off by like 3 |
| 00:22.13 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 00:22.16 | Thrae | I gotta fix that |
| 00:23.26 | Pkekyo| | btw, what is a 'neener-neener'? |
| 00:23.42 | Thrae | ~dict neener-neener |
| 00:23.58 | Thrae | ~wiki neener-neener |
| 00:24.07 | Thrae | Bah. |
| 00:24.10 | Xinhuan | hahahah |
| 00:24.18 | Ellipsis | heh |
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| 00:24.36 | Ellipsis | a neener-neener is 1/100th of a told-you-so |
| 00:24.52 | Pkekyo| | wait...wha? >.< |
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| 00:26.50 | Pkekyo| | who's in charge of purl? |
| 00:28.01 | Tehrock | yeah it's working now for my druid but not my rogue |
| 00:29.12 | Pkekyo| | ~purl |
| 00:29.12 | purl | See ~purl |
| 00:29.20 | Pkekyo| | ~purl author |
| 00:29.26 | CIA-8 | 03nymbia * r56010 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/pt3lod.sh: |
| 00:29.26 | CIA-8 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 00:29.26 | CIA-8 | - fix shell script, thanks Wobin |
| 00:29.28 | Pkekyo| | meh |
| 00:29.32 | Wobwor1 | ~riker |
| 00:29.37 | Pkekyo| | purl is a nublet |
| 00:29.41 | Wobwor1 | ~timriker |
| 00:29.42 | purl | timriker is probably my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 00:29.43 | Thrae | 15:36 [Freenode] -!- #wowi-loun purl H 0 i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt [TimRiker's blootbot] |
| 00:30.13 | Pkekyo| | ~seen riker |
| 00:30.14 | purl | i haven't seen 'riker', Pkekyo| |
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| 00:30.23 | Pkekyo| | ~seen timriker |
| 00:30.24 | purl | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 3d 39m 8s ago, saying: 'ic'. |
| 00:30.45 | Thrae | I've seen him around. |
| 00:30.45 | Pkekyo| | meh, can't be arsed if he's not hanging 'round here :p |
| 00:30.56 | WobWork | what's wrong with purl? |
| 00:31.25 | Pkekyo| | nothing...just thought it would be nice with a google define: search feature ;> |
| 00:31.51 | Ellipsis | doesn't it already do a define? |
| 00:32.07 | Pkekyo| | haven't seen it yet |
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| 00:32.12 | Pkekyo| | ~define cookiemonster |
| 00:32.13 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 00:32.13 | Ellipsis | ~dict test |
| 00:32.23 | Pkekyo| | ~define: cookiemonster |
| 00:32.50 | Pkekyo| | don't think it has the google define: built in |
| 00:32.55 | Ellipsis | why does it need to? |
| 00:33.25 | Pkekyo| | would just be a neat feature...similar to ~dict... |
| 00:33.36 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.39 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 00:33.42 | sdouble | so similar that each would counter the other |
| 00:34.00 | Pkekyo| | define > dict keke :) |
| 00:34.11 | kenlyric | it's more letters. |
| 00:34.13 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:34.17 | kenlyric | by definition, fail. |
| 00:34.31 | kenlyric | ls > dir rm > del |
| 00:35.09 | Pkekyo| | you acould abbreviate ~define to ~def, which would make it one letter less than ~dict, which would then be fail |
| 00:35.26 | NightHawkTheSane | alias l="ls -lGhp"; > ls ;) |
| 00:35.46 | kenlyric | there's a joke here about ~dic |
| 00:35.49 | sdouble | then you could also create an alias in your irc client |
| 00:36.12 | Pkekyo| | sdouble: hms? |
| 00:36.22 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: i'm insane. I actually map dir on linux clients. |
| 00:36.39 | NightHawkTheSane | insane isn't the term i'd use |
| 00:36.46 | Ellipsis | ewww kenlyric |
| 00:37.08 | kenlyric | spent my first seven or eight years in dos. |
| 00:37.09 | sdouble | I actually get ls/rm on windows |
| 00:38.41 | kenlyric | I don't dir much anymore, but I do get annoyed when it doesn't work. |
| 00:38.50 | kenlyric | the one thing I still haven't broken is "edit" |
| 00:39.15 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 00:39.18 | kenlyric | and no, I won't tell you what I map that to. |
| 00:39.31 | Ellipsis | aww come on |
| 00:39.34 | Ellipsis | we need some drama |
| 00:40.21 | Pkekyo| | e-drama ftw |
| 00:41.02 | kenlyric | PICO! |
| 00:41.05 | kenlyric | lols |
| 00:41.13 | Civrock | Is there a way to change the strata of Violation? |
| 00:41.22 | Civrock | Can't seem to find it anywhere in its files. |
| 00:41.34 | Diao | edit the lua? |
| 00:41.38 | kd3 | days behind (woo for stuffing myself with turkey!), the new PTR diff is posted! "current" build: 7627 @ http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 00:41.48 | Civrock | Diao: Not in there. |
| 00:42.10 | dylanm_ | It would have to be. |
| 00:43.40 | Pkekyo| | Civrock: look again....and again....and again.....if there's actually nothing there: implement it yourself |
| 00:43.53 | Pkekyo| | (and then never update Violation ever again) |
| 00:43.54 | dylanm_ | look in VioWindow.prototype:init() |
| 00:44.02 | dylanm_ | They create a frame |
| 00:44.11 | dylanm_ | I assume that :SetFrameStrata would rock out there |
| 00:44.27 | Civrock | Been searching for "strata". |
| 00:44.40 | dylanm_ | Not everyone sets it. Lord knows I don't. |
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| 00:45.16 | Pkekyo| | meh, I hate it when addons doesn't have strata or alpha settings |
| 00:45.17 | dylanm_ | He watches me code. |
| 00:46.16 | Pkekyo| | why did I just get an urge to make a movie named Lord of the Things? >.< |
| 00:47.25 | Pkekyo| | anyways, I'm off...g'nite al |
| 00:47.25 | Pkekyo| | l |
| 00:50.45 | Thrae | Xinhuan: I hate you. I just spent all this time fixing that rounding error. |
| 00:50.57 | Xinhuan | so what was the error? |
| 00:51.31 | Thrae | I dunno. I just added math.floor(equation - (2 * rating_mod[size])) and that fixed it. |
| 00:51.39 | Thrae | For points <= 344 |
| 00:51.56 | Xinhuan | why 2 *? |
| 00:52.01 | Thrae | !ar 200 |
| 00:52.01 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 200 points is, 2v2: 1130, 3v3: 967, 5v5: 843 |
| 00:52.07 | Thrae | !ar 341 |
| 00:52.07 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 341 points is, 2v2: 1588, 3v3: 1539, 5v5: 1484 |
| 00:52.17 | Thrae | Now it matches the Wowarmory's calculator exactly |
| 00:52.36 | Xinhuan | !ap 1130 |
| 00:52.36 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Arena points from a rating of 1130 is, 2v2: 199, 3v3: 231, 5v5: 262 |
| 00:52.52 | Thrae | The rounding error was for !ar when points <= 344 |
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| 00:53.02 | Xinhuan | 1130 -> 199 points |
| 00:53.05 | Xinhuan | for 2s |
| 00:53.19 | Xinhuan | but 1130 -> 200 in !ar |
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| 00:53.41 | Xinhuan | !ap 1131 |
| 00:53.41 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Arena points from a rating of 1131 is, 2v2: 199, 3v3: 231, 5v5: 262 |
| 00:53.47 | Thrae | Hmm lemme check something |
| 00:53.57 | Xinhuan | i'm sure you're doign rounding in unnecessary places |
| 00:54.03 | Civrock | dylanm_: Where and how exactly would I include ":SetFrameStrata"? |
| 00:54.34 | Diao | wtf |
| 00:54.37 | Diao | just got a c stack overflow |
| 00:54.42 | Diao | from ace2 |
| 00:54.43 | Xinhuan | when i do !ar 200, i want to know how many points i need to get 200... your bot says 1130, but 1131 only gives 199 |
| 00:54.48 | Xinhuan | !ap 1132 |
| 00:54.49 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Arena points from a rating of 1132 is, 2v2: 199, 3v3: 231, 5v5: 263 |
| 00:54.53 | Xinhuan | !ap 1133 |
| 00:54.53 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Arena points from a rating of 1133 is, 2v2: 200, 3v3: 231, 5v5: 263 |
| 00:54.58 | Xinhuan | 1133 is the correct answer |
| 00:55.12 | Xinhuan | which is what my bot gives - 1133 |
| 00:55.27 | Thrae | !ap 1133 |
| 00:55.28 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena points from a rating of 1133 is, 2v2: 200, 3v3: 231, 5v5: 263 |
| 00:55.44 | Thrae | math.abs((0.22 * rating + 14) * rating_mod[size]) should be correct |
| 00:56.04 | Xinhuan | incorrect |
| 00:56.23 | Xinhuan | actually it is, but your inverse isnt |
| 00:56.36 | Thrae | !ap isn't the inverse |
| 00:56.41 | CIA-8 | 03grennon * r56011 10GPriceEach/ (GPriceEach.toc embeds.xml): |
| 00:56.41 | CIA-8 | GPriceEach: |
| 00:56.42 | CIA-8 | -Add embeds.xml, Update toc |
| 00:56.57 | Xinhuan | your !ar saying to get 200 points, i need 1130 points |
| 00:57.07 | Xinhuan | but the correct answer is 1133 |
| 00:57.30 | Ellipsis | ...I just met an affliction lock with < 500 dmg and 57 spell hit |
| 00:57.54 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: that's kinda .... sucky |
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| 00:58.08 | Ellipsis | he has 16% crit though! |
| 00:58.12 | [dRaCo] | ! |
| 00:58.12 | Ellipsis | and a really dumb spec |
| 00:58.14 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 00:58.24 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r56012 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: Fix Glory:GetArenaRatingFromPoints() formula. It was so totally wrong (yes the formula was wrong even before the arena formula change on 26 Sept). |
| 00:58.32 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=Jackd |
| 00:58.46 | Thrae | !ap 1130 |
| 00:58.47 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena points from a rating of 1130 is, 2v2: 200, 3v3: 232, 5v5: 263 |
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| 00:59.04 | Thrae | Crap, now 3v3 is off. |
| 00:59.30 | Thrae | !ap 1130 |
| 00:59.31 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena points from a rating of 1130 is, 2v2: 199, 3v3: 231, 5v5: 262 |
| 00:59.45 | Orionshock | whats the taint log command again? |
| 00:59.57 | Ellipsis | /console taintLog 1 |
| 01:00.36 | Gnarfoz | GridManaBars tainting all over the place is fixed for 2.3.2? |
| 01:00.47 | Orionshock | i wish bliz had put a response to turning the taint log on ... |
| 01:01.09 | Xinhuan | whoever complained about the arena formula that was wrong in GloryLib 3 hours ago, i just fixed it |
| 01:01.13 | Gnarfoz | check via /echo GetCVar("taintLog") |
| 01:02.09 | Thrae | Xinhuan: There's some rounding differences between the Arena calculator and Lua |
| 01:02.33 | Xinhuan | the arena calculator on wowarmory isn't 100% correct, its implemented in javascript yes? |
| 01:03.31 | Thrae | !rating 1130 |
| 01:03.31 | Xinhuan | 1130 rating gives 262(5s), 231(3s) and 199(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 01:03.46 | Thrae | Yeah, yours is using my rounding |
| 01:04.39 | Thrae | !rating 1130 |
| 01:04.40 | Xinhuan | 1130 rating gives 262(5s), 231(3s) and 199(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 01:04.42 | Thrae | Whoops |
| 01:05.06 | Orionshock | whats the difference here ? GroupCalendarFrame:Show() vs ShowUIPanel(GroupCalendarFrame); |
| 01:05.48 | JoshBorke | one bumps frames |
| 01:05.58 | Xinhuan | Orionshock: ShowUIPanel() performs a :Show() if the frame isn't registered in UIPanelLayout[] |
| 01:06.15 | Xinhuan | if it is, it does a bunch of stuff to push frames around the place ala blizzard frames |
| 01:06.18 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 01:06.33 | Orionshock | one is tainting my UI and the other isn't.... |
| 01:06.34 | Xinhuan | such as character pane, social pane, etc |
| 01:06.47 | Xinhuan | the addon must be using it wrong then |
| 01:07.46 | Xinhuan | in my addon, i have 2 modes of operation on my frame, one is to operate like a blizzard window, one is standalone, depending on user preferences |
| 01:07.55 | Xinhuan | to use it in blizzard window mode where it pushes frame around |
| 01:07.58 | Xinhuan | you need to :SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-enabled", true); |
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| 01:08.29 | Xinhuan | and define it in UIPanelWindows["myframe"] = sometable that describes behavior |
| 01:08.37 | Gnarfoz | kd3: evil changes, more restrictions for those poor chinese guys who are limited to x hours a day by government decree -.- |
| 01:08.50 | Xinhuan | this change was implemented in patch 2.1 |
| 01:09.14 | Orionshock | ic |
| 01:09.23 | Orionshock | im not seeing in the code the setattrib |
| 01:09.43 | Xinhuan | that is because the default ui's code adds that attribute automatically |
| 01:09.55 | Xinhuan | if you define it inside UIPanelWindows[] |
| 01:10.13 | Xinhuan | when you call ShowUIPanel() |
| 01:10.42 | Xinhuan | it checks if that attributes exists |
| 01:11.00 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't exist and itis defined in UIPanelWindows[], it adds that attribute and uses it thereafter |
| 01:13.06 | Xinhuan | if "UIPanelLayout-enabled" is set to nil later, then even if UIPanelWindows["myframe"] is defined, it will just do a straight :Show() |
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| 01:13.31 | Orionshock | ...An action was blocked in combat because of taint from GroupCalendar - UIParent:SetAttribute() |
| 01:13.36 | Orionshock | is the line... |
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| 01:13.59 | Xinhuan | ya that is because someone tainted the UIParent_somethingPanel() function |
| 01:14.08 | Xinhuan | and is fairly common |
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| 01:14.22 | Orionshock | .. a deal braker? |
| 01:14.25 | CIA-8 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r56013 10IceHUD/IceHUD.lua: IceHUD : implemented strip gear functionality for the huds |
| 01:14.26 | Xinhuan | it usually happens if you open say the talent panel in combat |
| 01:14.37 | Xinhuan | but there can be other causes |
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| 01:14.53 | Xinhuan | it doesn't cause petbar issues thankfully |
| 01:14.57 | CIA-8 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r56014 10IceHUD_Hunter/modules/ (FeignDeath.lua PetControl.lua): icehud_hunter : updated a few modules |
| 01:14.58 | Lukian | Iceroth, yo! small bug report :D |
| 01:14.59 | Xinhuan | since that is under a different function |
| 01:16.44 | Gnarfoz | http://pastebin.com/m19b06154 <-- taint :< |
| 01:17.36 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz, that taintlog is worthless, needs taintLog 2 |
| 01:17.48 | Orionshock | ouch... |
| 01:18.00 | Orionshock | taint log 2 blows |
| 01:18.11 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: asdasdlkfnal I had it with 2, gathered from around here that 2 is almost useless because of its spamminess, deleted, and got it with 1 |
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| 01:18.14 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 01:18.28 | Xinhuan | taintlog 1 is worthless because you cannot track when execution became tainted with it |
| 01:18.53 | Xinhuan | basically taintlog 1 just repeats what information you can already get in BugSack |
| 01:18.55 | Orionshock | Gnarfoz: try this - disable everything but grid and try with 2 |
| 01:19.11 | Xinhuan | and doesn't offer any new information |
| 01:19.16 | Xinhuan | from what bugsack already can give |
| 01:19.31 | Xinhuan | taintlog 2 is *required* to fix taint |
| 01:20.11 | Xinhuan | and isn't 100% enough to be able to trace the cause of a taint either, because taintlog doesn't log non-global taints - such as when you hook a frame function |
| 01:21.00 | Orionshock | .... |
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| 01:22.40 | Gnarfoz | all this was already brought to the attention of the appropriate people, so they can (while they're at it, it seems they want us to be able to debug stuff) enable us to do it all the way? |
| 01:22.42 | Xinhuan | also, why does GloryLib have a savedvar? |
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| 01:22.51 | Ellipsis | I've often wondered that |
| 01:23.18 | Gnarfoz | wooo |
| 01:23.22 | Gnarfoz | 22mb taintlog |
| 01:23.23 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 01:23.34 | Gnarfoz | and I hadn't even reloaded yet, seems it already wrote it out by itself |
| 01:23.55 | Gnarfoz | definitely logging in with everything but grid disabled |
| 01:23.58 | Xinhuan | ya, taintlog 2 logs every single execution taint, which happens on nearly every event on every frame |
| 01:24.23 | Arrowmaster | glorylib has a saved var so it can track how many times youve killed a person that day |
| 01:24.23 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: to keep track of win / loss junk |
| 01:24.29 | Arrowmaster | its not an important saved var though |
| 01:24.42 | Xinhuan | that shouldn't have been in glorylib.. should be more of an addon thing |
| 01:24.49 | Ellipsis | how does it track things when it's embedded? or does it? |
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| 01:24.55 | Orionshock | something that BG fu should track |
| 01:24.58 | Orionshock | or honor fu |
| 01:25.15 | Arrowmaster | when its embeded the addon is suppost to add the glorylib saved var to its saved vars |
| 01:25.28 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 01:25.33 | Ellipsis | what if multiple addons are embedding it? |
| 01:25.39 | Ellipsis | it sounds like one giant hack to me |
| 01:25.40 | Arrowmaster | it still works fine |
| 01:25.52 | Arrowmaster | every addon will save the data |
| 01:25.52 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: it is |
| 01:25.54 | Xinhuan | doesn't that mean GloryLib's savedvars are written to multiple addon savedvars? |
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| 01:26.22 | Arrowmaster | and like i said its not an important saved var so if you enable something that you used to use but disabled and it accidently overwrites the saved var it doesnt matter that much |
| 01:28.22 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah does honorfu track eots wins/losses properly? |
| 01:28.48 | Arrowmaster | i added that a long time ago but i dont do eots so mine still says 0/0 |
| 01:28.58 | Lukian | Arrowmaster, last I checked it's not counting any wins/losses |
| 01:29.06 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 01:29.12 | Lukian | 2.3 killed it :D |
| 01:29.42 | Orionshock | might want to check api calls, i know that blizz changed 2 on me that totaly fubar'ed my addon |
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| 01:32.51 | Xinhuan | sigh, i'm feeling lazy atm |
| 01:32.56 | Xinhuan | can someone motivate me? :) |
| 01:33.20 | Orionshock | sorry fresh out of pron |
| 01:34.23 | Xinhuan | is the arena title requirement still 20% of the teams season /played? |
| 01:34.32 | NightHawkTheSane | is not equal =~ or ~=? |
| 01:34.39 | Xinhuan | ~= |
| 01:34.46 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks |
| 01:35.05 | kebinusan | is gridmanabars bjorked |
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| 01:35.16 | kebinusan | its using like 4.7mb |
| 01:35.24 | kebinusan | for meh |
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| 01:38.52 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56015 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocal-zhTW.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Update zhTW translation. |
| 01:39.14 | TrashCat | I'm using pitbull and I want to change the colors of the names on my raid bars, what is the dogtag for that? |
| 01:39.17 | Xinhuan | what does groupfu do? |
| 01:40.28 | dylanm_ | Changing looting style and stuff I guess |
| 01:41.00 | Orionshock | trick with rogues, if you heal - they will kill, and it won't stop :D |
| 01:41.53 | Gnarfoz | kebinusan: it taints... stuff, other than that idk |
| 01:42.10 | dylanm_ | 7min queue sweeet |
| 01:42.16 | dylanm_ | I should just never log out |
| 01:42.59 | Gnarfoz | servant of razelikh, my trusty punching bag |
| 01:43.44 | Gnarfoz | too bad I can't use my own rogue to help me... he could auto attack to keep aggro and heal himself full through JoL, and I could skill weapons, keeping JoL up |
| 01:43.55 | Arrowmaster | uping weapon skill? |
| 01:43.57 | Gnarfoz | can't keep myself up just through JoL though |
| 01:44.02 | Gnarfoz | yea |
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| 01:44.15 | Gnarfoz | turned out 2H maces was at 250ish :\ |
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| 01:44.42 | Arrowmaster | theres some mobs in shadowmoon valley that until you destroy the 3 totems around them are immune to all attacks |
| 01:44.49 | Gnarfoz | w00t?! |
| 01:44.52 | Gnarfoz | righto |
| 01:45.00 | Gnarfoz | I know which ones you're talking about :> |
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| 01:45.11 | Gnarfoz | but aren't they in the middle of wandering trash? |
| 01:45.24 | [dRaCo] | just a few elementals |
| 01:45.28 | [dRaCo] | like, 2... |
| 01:45.50 | Gnarfoz | 2 elementals vs. holy paladin wearing cloth |
| 01:45.58 | [dRaCo] | bubble! |
| 01:46.04 | Gnarfoz | hm yea I can see how that would turn out. never the less, I shall check it out ^^ |
| 01:46.09 | Arrowmaster | theyre elementals |
| 01:46.23 | Arrowmaster | you are level 70 right? |
| 01:46.27 | Gnarfoz | I am |
| 01:46.37 | Arrowmaster | youll be fine |
| 01:47.00 | [dRaCo] | go there, cast consecration, heal yourself, wait for like 2 minutes, done |
| 01:47.05 | Arrowmaster | the earth one has earth and fire elementals by him but youll only aggro the earth ones |
| 01:47.19 | Xinhuan | he wants afk mode |
| 01:47.37 | Ellipsis | the air one is easier if people are farming the elementals there, which they usually are |
| 01:47.53 | Ellipsis | as long as that one rare spawn isn't up |
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| 01:48.33 | Arrowmaster | if its a pve server even better at the air one |
| 01:49.05 | Orionshock | sweet 3 eggs in a row |
| 01:49.14 | Orionshock | 4 |
| 01:49.15 | Orionshock | ? |
| 01:50.44 | FireAllianceNX | what program do you guys recommend for text editing (tag highlights?) |
| 01:50.54 | Orionshock | notepad++ |
| 01:51.27 | Lukian | kate |
| 01:51.33 | Kerafyrm | ultraedit |
| 01:51.39 | Arrowmaster | scite |
| 01:52.01 | FireAllianceNX | which one is smaller footprint wise |
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| 01:52.12 | Gnarfoz | dreamweaverMX CS3 ultra deluxe |
| 01:52.15 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 01:52.48 | FireAllianceNX | good lord no lol |
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| 01:56.16 | Arrowmaster | scite is perty small since you dont even have to install it |
| 01:57.14 | FireAllianceNX | damn, I went with notepad++ already lol |
| 01:57.56 | Arrowmaster | well scite isnt easy to configure though if you dont know what your doing |
| 01:58.39 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 01:58.49 | Gnarfoz | http://pastebin.com/m39f2d63e <-- GridManaBars taint stuff (taintLog 2) |
| 01:58.55 | Arrowmaster | scite and notepad++ are both based on the same core system but i like scite better because i could configure it more compared to notepad++ |
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| 02:00.42 | Trae | I keep getting a bunch of "guild position" errors with Cartographer and it's annoying as heck. I've upgraded, but they never go away |
| 02:00.45 | Trae | I've tried disableing guild locations |
| 02:00.49 | Trae | but that doesn't wokr. |
| 02:00.53 | Trae | any ideas? |
| 02:01.56 | Arrowmaster | whats the error? |
| 02:03.13 | _rane | anyone from the us here? what timezones are ET and PT? |
| 02:03.26 | _rane | pacific time? |
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| 02:05.18 | Gnarfoz | eastern time, pacific time |
| 02:05.20 | Gnarfoz | I'd guess |
| 02:05.23 | Gnarfoz | also: win |
| 02:06.14 | Gnarfoz | buddy's rogue doing what I couldn't do with mine^^ |
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| 02:28.15 | Antiar1 | Is there an addon that lets you select your spell detail level from a FuBar dropdown? |
| 02:28.33 | Antiarc | Because Hyjal on anything but minimal is pain incarnate right now |
| 02:29.23 | Ellipsis | there's that one that toggles all your graphics settings, I think |
| 02:29.36 | Antiarc | I just want spell detail |
| 02:29.47 | FireAllianceNX | Is there a replacement for CharacterInfo? Wrong items are starting to popup. |
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| 02:36.16 | Gnarfoz | blergh 349 -> 350 weap skill takes AGES |
| 02:38.47 | Aens|Superiority | hum, which mod is making my loot windows small? |
| 02:39.23 | kebinusan | xloot? |
| 02:39.52 | Aens|Superiority | nope |
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| 02:40.06 | kebinusan | I should level my caster weapon skills |
| 02:40.46 | |Stan| | Aens|Superiority: Bartender |
| 02:41.06 | Arrowmaster | i was trying to get my daggers from 349 to 350 earlyer but i gave up |
| 02:42.16 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: needs afk mode, then it's bearable |
| 02:42.29 | Aens|Superiority | |Stan|: ah, cool |
| 02:43.04 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r56016 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-deDE.lua: AckisRecipeList: deDE 'Beast Training' fix |
| 02:43.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah i got to 300/300 with every weapon skill besides staves which was 298/300 on my warlock before tbc due to people kiting servents to gromgol and undercity |
| 02:43.10 | Ravven | Not sure where to find this - was looking at the Ace-2 mod creation tutorial, but it does not mention creating a GUI at any point. Where can I find a comprehensive tutorial for this? |
| 02:43.21 | Arrowmaster | Ravven: you cant |
| 02:43.25 | Ravven | QQ |
| 02:43.55 | Arrowmaster | you can use waterfall though |
| 02:44.36 | Ravven | hm |
| 02:45.28 | Thrae | Ravven: Currently, there's no Ace2/3/Rock/etc. "official" library for GUI implementation, but there are plenty of other libraries which you can use, most of which use or can use parts of Ace2/3/etc. |
| 02:45.42 | Ravven | I got the impression that Waterfall is specialized to creating some kind of standardized config windows >_> |
| 02:46.22 | Ravven | Thrae: would you recommend any specific ones? |
| 02:46.44 | Thrae | I make my GUIs from templates from Wowwiki.com. |
| 02:46.50 | Ravven | ah |
| 02:47.03 | Thrae | And other people's code. Really, that's the best way, unless you're doing configuration. |
| 02:47.07 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yeah, I went there instead, can't kite them to shatt :> Rogue beating the thing up and keeping himself alive through JoL, I keep beating on the mob to keep up JoL and max my skills. :D |
| 02:47.31 | Thrae | There's little catch-all for GUIs, except for FuBar and Tablet, but both FuBar and Tablet have specific goals in mind too. |
| 02:47.43 | Thrae | You wouldn't code Grid using Tablet. |
| 02:47.52 | Arrowmaster | and fubar isnt for config guis although everybody uses it for it |
| 02:47.59 | Ravven | heh |
| 02:48.06 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Well, Dewdrop |
| 02:48.13 | FireAllianceNX | and Rock |
| 02:48.41 | Thrae | FireAllianceNX: I mentioned Rock along with Ace2/3...I said "Ace2/3/Rock/etc." |
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| 02:49.22 | FireAllianceNX | I should scroll further next time |
| 02:50.33 | bigzero | Would it be possible to just add the standby option to the chatcommands without adding any other ones? |
| 02:51.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:53.27 | bigzero | how? if i do RegisterChatCommand("/something") it only adds the about option... |
| 02:54.23 | Arrowmaster | you have to use acedb to get standby |
| 02:54.36 | stavmar | weird question with CGnome. I keep getting the warning that item does not go in that slot, when I switch from another outfit. It seems to be a trinket, but I am not too sure why that error would come up. I have to press the wanted outfit twice in order to get teh outfit I want. |
| 02:54.48 | stavmar | What am I doing wrong? |
| 02:55.19 | bigzero | Arrowmaster: ah, k. I guess i'll just add it manually |
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| 03:02.00 | CIA-8 | 03arrowmaster * r56017 10/tags/EQCompare/: EQCompare: creating tags directory |
| 03:03.08 | CIA-8 | 03arith * r56018 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: |
| 03:03.08 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 03:03.08 | CIA-8 | - correct "Hex Lord Malacrass" typo |
| 03:11.00 | Xinhuan | whats up with eqcompare tag Arrowmaster? :) |
| 03:12.04 | Arrowmaster | me being a dick probably |
| 03:12.15 | Arrowmaster | or atleast thats what others will probably think |
| 03:12.57 | Andune | stavmar: I get the same thing sometimes. i mostly ignore it, but I think it has to do w/ the ordering of the trinkets |
| 03:14.14 | stavmar | Andune: well sometimes my cloak is not switched out, i press the outfit again and it works, it is just inconsistant |
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| 03:17.08 | bigzero | in AceLocale how do you change the indexing type to strict? |
| 03:23.26 | JoshBorke | aestil: is shadow reach necessary? |
| 03:25.34 | JoshBorke | aestil: #2 on healing done and #2 on overhealing done (18%) |
| 03:27.11 | Andune | stavmar: try loading and re-saving both of the sets you notice the problem with. sometimes that fixes it for me |
| 03:27.33 | stavmar | Anduok |
| 03:27.42 | stavmar | Andune ok |
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| 03:30.08 | JoshBorke | hm |
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| 03:35.03 | aestil | JoshBorke: yes |
| 03:35.10 | aestil | otherwise MF is 20 yards |
| 03:35.13 | aestil | which is total fail. |
| 03:35.26 | Kemayo | Level 70 horde hunters hanging out in the entrance to deadmines using snake traps to kill the lowbies: bastards. |
| 03:36.03 | JoshBorke | mmm, right, it is |
| 03:36.13 | JoshBorke | aestil: i respecced back to shadow, healing is awful |
| 03:36.24 | dylanm_ | JoshBorke: It's true. Priests shouldn't heal. Tell your folks. |
| 03:38.32 | Antiarc | Priests are for mana battery. |
| 03:40.42 | Ellipsis | holy priests are for mana battery :D |
| 03:41.12 | dylanm_ | Wh... what |
| 03:41.51 | JoshBorke | dylanm_: for warlocks obviously |
| 03:42.09 | Ellipsis | I don't have a health bar, I have a green mana bar |
| 03:42.26 | Kerafyrm | wtb holy form for priests kthanx |
| 03:42.55 | Ellipsis | but then the pallies will be wanting one too |
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| 03:45.28 | CIA-8 | 03silmano * r56020 10SellOMatic/SellOMatic.lua: |
| 03:45.28 | CIA-8 | SellOMatic: |
| 03:45.30 | CIA-8 | - Changed a little code |
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| 03:56.28 | baw | hai |
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| 03:57.07 | baw | currently having a problem, anyone care to help? |
| 03:57.31 | Xinhuan | what kind of problem? |
| 03:57.33 | RogueShadow | :-/ don't you hate when somebody invites you to do an instance, then you run/zep/fly all the way there and they leave. |
| 03:57.37 | baw | with an ace mod |
| 03:57.50 | baw | cowtip, specifically |
| 03:57.57 | baw | i've tried multiple versions of it as well |
| 03:58.01 | Xinhuan | and the problem is....? |
| 03:58.19 | baw | but whenever my fear ward is on cooldown, and i mouse over the tooltip, it flashes between two positions for whatever reason |
| 03:58.24 | dylanm_ | Oooh the suspense |
| 03:58.27 | baw | while it doesn't do that for any other ability or spell |
| 03:58.40 | baw | fairly trivial problem, but it's been bothering me for a while now :P |
| 03:58.59 | Xinhuan | what action bar mod do you use? |
| 03:59.04 | baw | bartender3 |
| 03:59.18 | Xinhuan | sounds like a Bt3 problem rather than cowtip |
| 03:59.26 | baw | D: |
| 03:59.27 | baw | good idea |
| 03:59.30 | baw | i didn't try updating bt |
| 03:59.43 | baw | if i don't come back then you fixed mai feer word |
| 03:59.46 | baw | <##3### |
| 04:04.11 | Ellipsis | I had that issue with BT3 as well, I don't think it's been fixed |
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| 04:09.10 | Andune | I'm still using Bongos, just 'cuz it was so darned easy to configure. Can't say that I've tested fear ward with it tho. |
| 04:10.11 | Ellipsis | it happens with any spell that has a cooldown |
| 04:10.31 | Andune | oh. guess it doesn't happen w/ Bongos then, 'cuz I've never seen it. |
| 04:10.36 | Ellipsis | each time the cooldown updates the tooltip flickers in the default position and back to where it's meant to be |
| 04:11.05 | Andune | doubt anyone wants to switch ActionBar mods just to fix an annoying bug, but FWIW, I tried both Bongos and BT3 and preferred Bongos |
| 04:11.46 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck is svn move giving me so much trouble |
| 04:12.06 | Andune | tho I must admit Bongos comes with the whole kitchen sink. I just delete that other crap and use just the action bar :) |
| 04:12.48 | dylanm_ | Thus they're in separate directories |
| 04:13.03 | Andune | dylanm_: Bongos? |
| 04:13.10 | dylanm_ | I don't think Tuller likes maintaining all of those but some people complain |
| 04:13.30 | dylanm_ | I assumed you were talking about the XP, map, blah blah components |
| 04:13.31 | Andune | ah. yep, I'm glad they're setup that way. Some people prefer the all-in-one mods. |
| 04:13.43 | Andune | I just like it for the nice easy-to-configure action bars :) |
| 04:14.04 | Andune | X-perl too. I use it just for the GrimReaper, heh. |
| 04:14.25 | Ellipsis | I just need the pet bar...disable all the other modules and hack out the action bar code, and I'm happy |
| 04:21.32 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56021 10aUF_barFader/aUF_barFader.lua: aUF_barFader: power fade/smoothing works |
| 04:28.06 | Orionshock | ... |
| 04:28.07 | Sarana | Noticed a slight problem with the RSS feed for wowace files. It looks like some Unicode Non Break Space characters (which are often used to mark the beginning of UTF-8 text) are making it through for example: <wowaddon:provides><U+FEFF>AbacusLib</wowaddon:provides> |
| 04:29.41 | Ellipsis | they probably exist in the addon's toc |
| 04:29.45 | Sarana | My guess is it's from the 'special' processing to make an entry for !!!StandaloneLibraries |
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| 04:33.00 | kenlyric | yoyoyoyodeletethatshit |
| 04:33.08 | Sarana | It's probably from the externs. In the process of updating my addon update script to check the RSS feed before trying to update addons to reduce network load. I'm just going to exclude that pseudo library since my stuff doesn't use it. |
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| 04:34.00 | Arrowmaster | Sarana: where exactly are you seeing that line? |
| 04:35.00 | Sarana | The first wowaddon:provides line in the !!!StandaloneLibraries entry. Line 13865 in the version of the feed I last fetched. |
| 04:35.06 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 04:35.10 | Arrowmaster | i think i know whats causing |
| 04:35.51 | Ellipsis | that seems to be the only case of it, though |
| 04:36.59 | Sarana | Aye... it's just a "problem" when my stuff was 'validating' the feed against it's list of addons. !!!StandaloneLibraries isn't used but my stuff didn't take that into account when checking the feed. |
| 04:38.10 | Ellipsis | the filelist.wau starts with that unicode control character, that probably does it |
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| 04:38.24 | Sarana | Aye that is my thought. |
| 04:38.31 | CIA-8 | 03arrowmaster * r56022 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/filelist.wau: !!!StandaloneLibraries: remove UTF-8 BOM from filelist.wau so it doesnt make its way into the xml feed |
| 04:39.46 | Sarana | arrowmaster, thanks. |
| 04:39.57 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: update zipscript/xmlfeedgenerator to strip UTF-8 BOM from the beginning of lines |
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| 04:40.26 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: of the filelist.wau |
| 04:41.48 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r56023 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocal-koKR.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: koKR Update |
| 04:43.07 | Silowyi | well TinyTipExtras is thoroughly broken for me for some reason |
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| 04:44.23 | Thrae | I don't support the TinyTip on Wowace SVN. The one I'm working on is on my Google SVN, but I haven't had the chance recently to work on that either. |
| 04:44.44 | Silowyi | ah |
| 04:45.02 | Thrae | Google SVN version should work, but has no Targets. |
| 04:45.12 | Thrae | I'm waiting on a new development system. |
| 04:45.39 | Arrowmaster | why the hell wont it let me svn move this! |
| 04:45.51 | aestil | well, we 1 shot each of the first 4 hyjal bosses. |
| 04:45.59 | aestil | that instance is a bit to easy imo. |
| 04:46.16 | Silowyi | aestill: first try? nice |
| 04:48.46 | dylanm_ | Everything feels easy after Kael :p |
| 04:49.00 | Gagorian- | Welcome to nerfed bosses. |
| 04:53.08 | bigzero | does sheep generate global threat?? I sheeped as the mobs were running towards tank and I pulled one of the other mobs in the group....wtf? |
| 04:54.27 | Arrowmaster | did the tank body pull? |
| 04:55.40 | aestil | Silowyi: no, not first try. 2nd week in. |
| 04:55.56 | aestil | well, 3rd week, but first week we only had about 2 hours in. |
| 04:56.01 | aestil | so 2nd normal raid week. |
| 04:56.11 | aestil | tank body pulls, we run past him on mounts. |
| 04:56.58 | Antiarc | bigzero: You probably procced a buff or mana gain or something? |
| 04:57.35 | Arrowmaster | if the tank body pulled and didnt do anything to cause threat i could see it happening |
| 04:57.44 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, I think it was a body pull |
| 04:57.44 | Ellipsis | but then it should happen on all mobs |
| 04:57.46 | Ellipsis | not just one |
| 04:57.56 | bigzero | i just never had it happen before |
| 04:57.58 | bigzero | ever |
| 04:58.13 | bigzero | you can't really proc anything off of a sheep either |
| 04:58.19 | Arrowmaster | tell your tank to l2p and pop bloodrage after pulling |
| 04:58.37 | bigzero | well, it was a gay group anyway, but i'm just curious now |
| 04:58.52 | bigzero | it's happened a couple times now |
| 04:59.07 | Arrowmaster | good tanks will never do a pull thats just a body pull without any threatgen |
| 04:59.08 | Antiarc | I suspect you just got on the aggro list and then had something tick for global threat |
| 04:59.50 | bigzero | i think it was a shot pull, but no bloodrage |
| 05:00.04 | Codayus | lol? |
| 05:00.08 | bigzero | i'll go test it somewhere |
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| 05:02.54 | CIA-8 | 03kuja * r56024 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocal-deDE.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: deDE update |
| 05:04.03 | bigzero | oh, and how do i change the AceLocale indexing to strict? |
| 05:04.22 | bigzero | SetStrictness does not seem to work |
| 05:04.25 | aestil | yes, he's doning that |
| 05:04.31 | aestil | i thought you meant vs. MD pull |
| 05:06.24 | aestil | lol Arrowmaster you weren't talking to me. |
| 05:06.26 | aestil | nvm |
| 05:07.07 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: i think you have to set it before you register any translations |
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| 05:07.53 | bigzero | will try, thanks |
| 05:08.22 | Ellipsis | huh, neat |
| 05:08.45 | Ellipsis | if I disable LibSharedMedia, Violation complains about it not being there, even though it's OptDep'd in Violation.toc |
| 05:08.50 | Ellipsis | how is that even possible? |
| 05:09.31 | Antiarc | Likely because the code isn't written expecting it to be missing? |
| 05:09.44 | Ellipsis | it's not missing, just disabled |
| 05:09.48 | Ellipsis | shouldn't it be automatically enabled? |
| 05:10.05 | Antiarc | OpDep doesn't automatically enable anything that's disabled |
| 05:10.11 | Antiarc | You're thinking wither ACP or LoD |
| 05:10.13 | Ellipsis | shouldn't AceLibrary though? |
| 05:10.21 | Antiarc | How would it? It isn't loaded. |
| 05:10.27 | Antiarc | Therefore it never got registered with AceLibrary |
| 05:10.30 | Antiarc | Therefore it doesn't exist |
| 05:10.41 | Ellipsis | well, other addons are enabling it |
| 05:10.49 | Ellipsis | so how are they doing it while Vio can't? |
| 05:11.01 | Arrowmaster | how is violation calling it? |
| 05:11.16 | Arrowmaster | LibStub("LibSharedMedia-2.0")? |
| 05:11.24 | Ellipsis | not sure, I'll check |
| 05:12.01 | Ellipsis | oh, yep |
| 05:12.08 | sylvanaar | You can see me on the cross where they crucified me for the auto-enable of disabled libraries to prevent loading errors |
| 05:12.09 | Ellipsis | bah, why can't people agree on how they're doing things? |
| 05:12.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats why |
| 05:12.27 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, tried doing it before registering translations, so it gives me an error saying that no translations are registered and then it's not registering the translations that follow that command, which I guess makes sense |
| 05:12.31 | Ellipsis | most Ace addons that use LibStub'ed libraries still use AceLibrary to access it |
| 05:12.35 | Ellipsis | but some don't |
| 05:12.37 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: lol |
| 05:12.48 | Arrowmaster | some use Rock() to access them |
| 05:13.08 | Ellipsis | some use LibStub(), some use Rock(), some use AceLibrary() ... |
| 05:13.22 | bigzero | zomg...Ace = unified...this transition thing = gay |
| 05:13.32 | Ellipsis | it makes sense to use direct LibStub() calls for any LibStub libraries |
| 05:13.41 | Arrowmaster | if the library is required then it should be written to error and stop loading if it doesnt find it |
| 05:13.56 | Ellipsis | but since AceLibrary handles those now, people are mixing and matching as they please, which is incredibly frustrating to sort out as a user |
| 05:14.01 | bigzero | so any more ideas on the Locale strictness? |
| 05:14.21 | Arrowmaster | if its optional then it should either use AceLibrary() if its still an ace mod, or call LoadAddOn() first |
| 05:14.52 | Arrowmaster | but if you disable the library in the addon screen then it shouldnt get enabled if not calling with AceLibrary() or Rock() |
| 05:15.30 | Ellipsis | I prefer that they not be automatically enabled |
| 05:15.30 | Ellipsis | it's unintuitive and makes it a pain to test what happens when you remove a lib |
| 05:15.48 | Arrowmaster | people really need to fucking code better for when shit does go wrong |
| 05:15.48 | Ellipsis | which is why I wish people would move to LibStub calls for LibStub libs...but consistently -.- |
| 05:16.02 | Arrowmaster | like with cartographer and the dewdrop-2.0 shit thats happening |
| 05:18.02 | sylvanaar | libstub really doesnt offer much imo to a developer who already uses a given framework |
| 05:18.43 | Ellipsis | except all the libs you wouldn't have if their authors stuck to a different framework than you do |
| 05:19.16 | bigzero | wtf?? why would GetStrictTranslation still return a "translation" when there is none??? |
| 05:19.24 | sylvanaar | huh, i could use any libstub library i want without supporting libstub myself |
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| 05:20.24 | sylvanaar | for that matter, i could use any library from any framework really. |
| 05:20.43 | bigzero | zomg, where is ckknight when you need him |
| 05:21.03 | Ellipsis | yes, but if libstub didn't exist and authors created libs that depend heavily on a given framework (different than your addon's), you wouldn't be able to use them |
| 05:21.15 | sylvanaar | sure i would |
| 05:21.25 | Ellipsis | oh right, you're not above including multiple frameworks |
| 05:23.01 | sylvanaar | is that bad? unless you have like 5 addons your are bound to have more than one anyways |
| 05:23.19 | Ellipsis | I'm sorry, I can't have this conversation with you |
| 05:23.28 | Thrae | LibStub is included in more frameworks then just Ace and Rock, it was suppose to be just a generic stub thing like was intended long back when stubs were first introduced. |
| 05:23.30 | sylvanaar | who is having a conversaion |
| 05:24.24 | Thrae | Just like a transition from Windows XP to Windows Vista, there are going to be some hiccups with developers not utilizing the standards. |
| 05:24.40 | Diao | ellipsis is a hardcore minimalist |
| 05:24.45 | Diao | lol |
| 05:25.01 | sylvanaar | yeah, but to achieve framework independance you have to write you have to duplicate functionality from the frameworks and code that into your lib |
| 05:25.05 | Ellipsis | I don't think expecting an addon to embed only one framework at a time qualifies as "hardcore minimalism" |
| 05:25.44 | Ellipsis | most libs don't need all that much from a framework |
| 05:26.00 | Thrae | Are we talking about LibStub or just libraries in general? |
| 05:26.06 | sylvanaar | both |
| 05:27.31 | aestil | do snare effects stack in some way? |
| 05:27.43 | aestil | on vashj? |
| 05:28.19 | Thrae | You can't just compare LibStub to all libraries. LibStub operates not only on the principle of being independant, but also of being rather trivial code. |
| 05:28.34 | Ellipsis | we |
| 05:28.49 | sylvanaar | that's my point - its so trivial i dont really see the point |
| 05:28.54 | Thrae | In my opinions, all libraries should be as independant as possible. |
| 05:29.10 | Ellipsis | we're talking about wanting to embed a library that's based on a framework into an addon that uses another framework (as you'd have to with pre-libstub stuff) |
| 05:29.33 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Everything is based on something. |
| 05:29.43 | Ellipsis | the reason LibStub is useful is that it encourages people to make their libs framework-independant, but sylvanaar seems to think that's not really an advantage |
| 05:30.07 | Thrae | LibStub itself is independant, but things that are "LibStub" libraries are suppose to be dependant on only LibStub. |
| 05:30.25 | Ellipsis | right |
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| 05:33.07 | sylvanaar | example LibSharedMedia-2.0 line 29 - ad-hoc event handling |
| 05:33.21 | sylvanaar | i dont like that sort of stuff |
| 05:33.35 | Thrae | I don't see how that has anything to do with LibStub. |
| 05:34.16 | CIA-8 | 03sorren * r56026 10SEasyRotation/ (SEasyRotation.toc embeds.xml): SEasyRotation: Fix externals (didn't hit cancel fast enough last time, whoops) |
| 05:35.55 | Thrae | sylvanaar: There's no reason not to make the code for handling libraries a library in and of itself. Otherwise, it's going against the very heart of libraries as machines of collaboration and optimization. There are plenty of examples of bad libraries, but I don |
| 05:36.04 | Ellipsis | I can't see how anyone would want to embed up to n frameworks just to use n libs |
| 05:36.05 | Thrae | ...I don't see how LibStub fits into it. |
| 05:36.14 | sylvanaar | i am talking about both libraries and libstub |
| 05:36.26 | Thrae | LibStub is a library. |
| 05:37.00 | sylvanaar | but libstub people seem to evangelize that libraries are supposed to be independant of any framework |
| 05:37.23 | Thrae | Yes, but not to the point that you need to duplicate non-trivial code. |
| 05:37.34 | sylvanaar | that was my point |
| 05:38.07 | Ellipsis | not every lib can be made framework-independent, but that doesn't mean you should include more frameworks to get around it |
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| 05:38.41 | sylvanaar | I resent the 'obligation' that libstub seems to carry with it |
| 05:39.46 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Coding based on feelings of resentment is what got us here today with LibStub in WoW 2.x instead of WoW 1.x. |
| 05:40.20 | sylvanaar | thats one take on it |
| 05:40.48 | sylvanaar | another would be resentment leading from Ace2 -> Dongle, Rock, Ace3 |
| 05:41.07 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.11 | Orionshock | standards.. |
| 05:41.15 | Thrae | Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." |
| 05:41.16 | Orionshock | frameworks... |
| 05:41.29 | Thrae | You can't please everyone. |
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| 05:41.36 | sylvanaar | clearly |
| 05:42.52 | Thrae | In my mind, the very worst thing you can do is NOT involve yourself in collaboration just because of the "tone" of development which isn't even related to LibStub. |
| 05:42.55 | Orionshock | LOL Thrae / sylvanaar / Ellipsis / the rest... all i hear listing to you all is the bitching people that just don't understand how to run a project... either that or no one with in the /project/ has enough balls to pull it together. |
| 05:43.35 | Ellipsis | I'm not talking about running projects at all |
| 05:43.39 | greppy | Orionshock: I love standards. There are so many to pick from. |
| 05:43.48 | sylvanaar | lol greppy |
| 05:43.56 | Thrae | Orionshock: We're not talking about standards. |
| 05:44.08 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.20 | dylanm_ | No one has said anything of much substance for, like, pages now. |
| 05:44.25 | Silowyi | You know I read an article a while back called "They write the right stuff" about the contract programming team who works for NASA. |
| 05:44.29 | Orionshock | there is no direction in ace2 |
| 05:44.38 | Orionshock | there is more of a direction in ace3, but.. |
| 05:44.43 | Orionshock | GOD not much |
| 05:44.47 | Orionshock | at all |
| 05:44.49 | Silowyi | one of the big focuses of that team was something called "Ego-free Programming" |
| 05:45.14 | Ellipsis | my only complaint is that nobody agreed on how to load LibStub libraries, and AceLibrary went ahead and implemented handling for them exactly like Ace-based libs are done, which is unexpected and makes no sense to me as a user |
| 05:45.27 | Orionshock | Silowyi: no such thing as ego free programming |
| 05:45.27 | Ellipsis | having said that, I'm done. |
| 05:45.30 | sylvanaar | You know the Ace3 team wasn't open to suggestion, they had an agenda of their own. Rock was a 1 man thing. So was Dongle. |
| 05:45.36 | Thrae | Orionshock: That's because Ace3 is the official upgrade over Ace2 (and Rock is ckknight's upgrade over Ace2). So no one is doing much with Ace2 anymore. |
| 05:46.08 | dylanm_ | Ellipsis: Uh define "user" here. Programmer that writes against the libraries or just someone with addons downloaded? |
| 05:46.11 | Orionshock | .. i guess i was taking your listing skills for granted Thrae |
| 05:46.11 | Zhinjio | Love you guys. |
| 05:46.17 | Zhinjio | <3 |
| 05:46.31 | Ellipsis | dylanm_: user of the addons themselves (albeit with disembedded libs, so more of a power user) |
| 05:46.41 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 05:46.47 | Silowyi | for some reason my enter key wasn't working |
| 05:46.48 | Silowyi | The code is owned by the project, the mistakes are owned by the project, programming is done in teams, multiple people look at each other's code, and any bugs that get through are considered to be "everone's responsibility" |
| 05:46.57 | Thrae | Orionshock: I'm not sure what your point is, or do you have one? |
| 05:48.15 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Throughout all this, I lost your problem with the "independant but interoperable lib" idea. |
| 05:48.57 | Orionshock | oh i it was said, but i'll reiterate it for you " Ellipsis: my only complaint is that nobody agreed on how to load LibStub libraries, and AceLibrary went ahead and implemented handling for them exactly like Ace-based libs are done, which is unexpected and makes no sense to me as a user " point being that ... there is no "public" talk about how things are to be done? it's just ironic and... |
| 05:48.59 | dylanm_ | Ellipsis: I'm not really familiar with what AceLibrary is doing. Is it just that any LibStub:NewLibrary() call can be replaced by an AceLibrary one and things would be hunky-dory? |
| 05:48.59 | Orionshock | ...hypocritical when the same people that made lib stub bitch about standards |
| 05:49.10 | sylvanaar | 1) I dont see what LibStub adds 2) If I use a framework why do i care about framework independance |
| 05:49.42 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.07 | Ellipsis | dylanm_: what AceLibrary is doing is automatically enabling disabled libs when an addon calls for them. LibStub doesn't do this, so if an addon accesses its LibStub libs with LibStub and another uses AceLibrary, the results are different for no apparent reason. |
| 05:50.47 | sylvanaar | If the library isnt automatically enabled, the addon which uses it will fail to load, and you will have to enable it manually, and then reload ui |
| 05:50.51 | Nargiddley | AceLibrary has done that for a long time, why is it not expected ? |
| 05:51.03 | Ellipsis | because it's doing that for LibStub libs |
| 05:51.31 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: ideally, that's how it would work. |
| 05:51.31 | Thrae | Orionshock: No, it's a problem with AceLibrary, a part of Ace2. Not LibStub. LibStub is working as expected. |
| 05:51.34 | Nargiddley | seems more expected for it to do it for all libs than just some to me |
| 05:51.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ..Has anyone tried illhoof with 2 ms warriors instead of a lock? >.> |
| 05:51.52 | Ellipsis | I'd settle for everyone agreeing to use AceLibrary to access their LibStub libs |
| 05:51.54 | Nargiddley | if the addon doesnt want the loading it can use LibStub directly |
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| 05:51.58 | Ellipsis | I just want some consistency. |
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| 05:52.08 | Sarana | Aye it would be surprising to me if something using AceLibrary only enabled some of the libraries. |
| 05:52.11 | Orionshock | im gona go back to playing, because your all (ace2 / 3 project ) a bunch of idiots |
| 05:52.21 | Ellipsis | exactly, Sarana, thank you :) |
| 05:52.32 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, you probably dont want that :P |
| 05:52.38 | dylanm_ | That is a bit problematic. |
| 05:52.51 | Thrae | Orionshock: None of us here are actually "on" the project. We're just talking about it. |
| 05:52.57 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley - why? |
| 05:53.05 | Orionshock | i guess that's the real problem eh? |
| 05:53.09 | Nargiddley | Baggins uses libstub to load PT3.1 so it wont get loaded if disabled when i check for it |
| 05:53.16 | Ellipsis | that's awesome |
| 05:53.46 | Nargiddley | it should be a decision by the author, most dont bother to research whats best tho :? |
| 05:53.46 | sylvanaar | acelibrary wont load it either if you are just checking for it |
| 05:53.48 | Nargiddley | :/ |
| 05:54.34 | Sarana | I've done similar tricks for using some of the Babble libraries in my own stuff. |
| 05:54.38 | Thrae | Orionshock: You need to talk first to figure out a solution to fix things. Anyone can make their own version of AceLibrary and put it in branches, or make a patch. That's the spirit of collaboration. |
| 05:54.49 | Nargiddley | I was told :HasInstance loaded things a while ago |
| 05:54.54 | sylvanaar | no |
| 05:55.06 | Ellipsis | for required libraries (i.e. the addon cannot possibly perform any useful function if the lib is not present) I'm fine with the auto-enabling |
| 05:55.10 | sylvanaar | :HasInstance("foo-1.0", false) |
| 05:55.15 | Orionshock | thrae no that's the spirit of dis-continuity and is being counterproductive |
| 05:55.32 | Ellipsis | but people rarely code things properly so that libs can actually be optional |
| 05:55.46 | Ellipsis | they figure, hey, I can just embed it and then I don't have to worry |
| 05:56.12 | Ellipsis | which sucks for those of us who actually use disembedded libs |
| 05:56.23 | Zhinjio | you know what I find most interesting about this sort of discussion compared to "on-the-job" programming? |
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| 05:56.36 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 05:56.36 | CIA-8 | - zhtw update |
| 05:57.01 | Zhinjio | in company based work, there are generally too many project managers micro-managing the way people code, and holding them to deadlines they can't meet, not to mention marketing people promising things that can't be delivered. |
| 05:57.06 | Thrae | Orionshock: SVNs are designed such that you can code multiple different changes to the same base code and merge them. |
| 05:58.00 | Zhinjio | in this and other open-source type projects, you have all kinds ego, branches all over the place from hell, and no project management. |
| 05:58.33 | Zhinjio | it seems to me that all you need is one person who is an arbitrator who knows how to project manage well, and you'd have everyone cooperating and things moving along at rocket speed. |
| 05:58.37 | Zhinjio | that would be amazing. |
| 05:58.50 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: your thinking again |
| 05:58.50 | Zhinjio | but, I'm also an idealist. *shrug* |
| 05:58.54 | Orionshock | stop that |
| 05:58.56 | Zhinjio | yeah, too much of that. |
| 05:59.01 | Zhinjio | foo on me. |
| 05:59.04 | _neuron_ | the only way to 100% pull off coordinated development is to have only one developer :p |
| 05:59.08 | Orionshock | it's discoruaged arround here, doing that would be ... to logical and smart |
| 05:59.16 | Orionshock | and .. ace3 is all about new ... |
| 05:59.35 | aestil | Orionshock: doing that would be... rock? |
| 05:59.43 | Orionshock | EXACTLY! |
| 06:00.01 | Orionshock | ... duah, i guess that's what ck was bitching about all this time.... |
| 06:00.06 | Zhinjio | so, we had a mail addon discussion a few days ago. |
| 06:00.24 | Zhinjio | the ONLY thing I'm missing in not using a mailmod is an "open all" and "open selected" type thinger. what addon does that? |
| 06:00.27 | Zhinjio | (well) |
| 06:00.50 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: bulkmail2_inbox |
| 06:00.55 | Ellipsis | there's a simple OpenAll addon if you don't need the "open selected" stuff |
| 06:01.15 | Zhinjio | yeah, I do though. I use open selected more than open all, actually |
| 06:01.25 | sylvanaar | frankly i liked ace2 - and this place was full of collaboration and people writing addons instead of frameworks - i miss those days |
| 06:01.28 | Ellipsis | BM2I is pretty lightweight as well if you need more features than just that |
| 06:01.32 | Xinhuan | if you really just want that particular functionality and ONLY that, download Postal, and delete all the files except in Postal\Modules\OpenAll.lua |
| 06:01.48 | Xinhuan | delete all the modules except the OpenAll module that is |
| 06:01.52 | Ellipsis | o.O a properly modular addon?! |
| 06:01.54 | Ellipsis | who does that? |
| 06:01.54 | Diao | lol |
| 06:02.03 | Zhinjio | X: does it do open selected as well? |
| 06:02.04 | _neuron_ | or if you want it REALLY light just do as he said originally and delete all of it |
| 06:02.05 | Xinhuan | Select.lua is for opening Selected mail |
| 06:02.06 | Diao | you can delete postal/core.lua too? |
| 06:02.09 | Zhinjio | ok. |
| 06:02.11 | Xinhuan | so you can keep that one |
| 06:02.16 | Xinhuan | nope ;p |
| 06:02.19 | Zhinjio | excellent. |
| 06:02.22 | Xinhuan | core.lua isn't in the modules\ subfolder |
| 06:02.28 | Diao | oh in the modules subfolder |
| 06:02.35 | Diao | you didn't specify! :P |
| 06:02.50 | Xinhuan | each file in Postal\Modules\ is a seperate module, which can be deleted at will if you don't use that feature |
| 06:03.00 | Zhinjio | thanks Xinhuan |
| 06:03.20 | Zhinjio | I'll probably check out bm2i as well, just for giggles. |
| 06:03.26 | Thrae | sylvanaar: The addon craze is dying down due to Blizzard continously improving on what they include in the default UI. A lot of the old Ace team to begin with just wanted to have fun with Lua in the WoW environment. |
| 06:03.27 | Zhinjio | because giggles... he would have wanted it that way. |
| 06:03.32 | Xinhuan | the modules are small actually |
| 06:04.08 | Xinhuan | openall is to open all, select is to open selected, rake is to calculate how much money you gained from opening mail |
| 06:04.23 | Zhinjio | auditorfu handles that for me. |
| 06:04.26 | Diao | i like bm2's interface |
| 06:04.27 | Zhinjio | <3 auditorfu |
| 06:04.34 | sylvanaar | thrae: so did i - brb |
| 06:04.37 | Xinhuan | express is to add shift-click to open that 1 mail you shift-clicked on |
| 06:04.47 | Xinhuan | blackbook is to add a convenient "mailto" list |
| 06:04.59 | aestil | Thrae, blizzard does more now than they used to, and its consistantly inferior to the best mods. |
| 06:05.17 | aestil | what i want to know, is why do i have to load up all the default UI stuff if i'm replacing it with addons. |
| 06:05.19 | Xinhuan | wire is to add the amount of gold to the subject of the mail if it isn't already filled in |
| 06:05.44 | Ellipsis | aestil: yeah, but it's workable enough that people don't necessarily seek out addons in the first place |
| 06:05.46 | aestil | i wish if you loaded pitbull, that it just completely prevented the blizzard UI from loading at all. |
| 06:05.58 | Thrae | sylvanaar: There was a boom when ckknight personally took over Ace2 and made FuBar and its related plugins, as well as some other popular addons, but then there was the philosophical schism of Ace3 and Rock where we are now. |
| 06:06.05 | aestil | Ellipsis: 2 kinds of people those that run mods, and those that don't. |
| 06:06.08 | Thrae | aestil: Actually, a lot of the Blizzard UI is LoD. |
| 06:06.09 | Sarana | aestil: They've been doing more Blizzard_* modules it seems of late... wouldn't be surprised if they continue that direction. |
| 06:06.19 | Ellipsis | aestil, I think there are varying degrees |
| 06:06.23 | Ellipsis | some people just like minor tweaks |
| 06:06.30 | Xinhuan | aestil, well, when blizzard wrote their addons, they didn't expect them to be replaced - they later recoded parts of it to be blizzard addons, so those can be disabled |
| 06:06.30 | Ellipsis | some people like their entire interface to be completely different |
| 06:06.49 | aestil | like me? |
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| 06:06.59 | Ellipsis | yes, like you |
| 06:07.07 | aestil | what are you saying about me? |
| 06:07.07 | Xinhuan | you only need to override the UIParent_LoadAuctionUI() function, if you want to make it not call LoadAddOn("Blizzard_AuctionUI") for eg |
| 06:07.39 | Orionshock | tbh, i want to see blizzard hold a UI contest, see who can make an entire UI from the ground up... all you get is the SecureTemplates and the GameTooltipTemplate... and the rest you have to make all on your onw. |
| 06:07.45 | Xinhuan | you basically override it to load your auction UI rather than the blizzard one |
| 06:07.47 | Ellipsis | I'm saying you want your UI to be unique and quite different from what the default gives :) |
| 06:07.53 | aestil | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7765-AestilUI-PetClassUI.html |
| 06:07.55 | Thrae | I'd say 99% of addon users want UIs that are functional and/or "pretty" over ones that are "optimized". Hence why compliations, suites, and things like Khaos are so popular. |
| 06:07.55 | aestil | LIEZ |
| 06:07.59 | aestil | OMG LIAR!!! |
| 06:08.07 | aestil | what is khaos? |
| 06:08.28 | Xinhuan | Khaos is a addon that manages other addons i think |
| 06:08.46 | Xinhuan | by showing their loaded/unloaded/enabled/disabled status |
| 06:08.50 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 06:08.52 | Thrae | Khaos is a framework for a compliation by the same name, the new incarnation of Cosmos. |
| 06:09.03 | Xinhuan | but yes, it is more of a cosmos followup |
| 06:09.16 | Xinhuan | the initial version was coded by alexyoshi |
| 06:09.25 | Orionshock | cosmos needs to die liek the PoS that it is.... |
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| 06:09.51 | Xinhuan | what they sorted wanted was a integrated UI for doing it |
| 06:10.25 | Xinhuan | cosmos is a "compilation" where it had a "unified UI" that sets each addon's options that was included in the compilation |
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| 06:10.36 | Xinhuan | kinda like rockconfig - but manually done |
| 06:10.42 | Xinhuan | for each addon |
| 06:10.50 | Ellipsis | doesn't mazzle do something like that? or is it more automated |
| 06:10.51 | Orionshock | like rockConfig , but worse |
| 06:11.17 | Xinhuan | well this isn't automated - this one is manual, so the UI actually looked ok |
| 06:11.41 | jwwpua | are there any addons like sanitybags (keep loot autosorted)? |
| 06:11.56 | jwwpua | I'd def. use it if it would just show all my empty bag slots instead of just 4 |
| 06:12.09 | Orionshock | jwwpua: oneBag & Suite |
| 06:12.25 | jwwpua | will onebag sort it? |
| 06:12.29 | jwwpua | or WITH suite? |
| 06:12.37 | Orionshock | no one bag dosn't sort |
| 06:12.51 | Ellipsis | MrPlow sorts your bags for you |
| 06:12.54 | Sarana | I like Baggins myself... though if you want to sort the bags without changing the UI check out MrPlow (Haven't used it in a while though since I switched to baggins) |
| 06:12.55 | Orionshock | OneBag / OneBank / OneView / OneStorage |
| 06:13.07 | Ellipsis | but you have to manually run it every once in a while, it doesn't sort-as-you-go |
| 06:13.24 | Xinhuan | when you say "sort" bags, do you mean a "virtual sort" where the bags displayed are sorted virtually and displayed arbitrarily? |
| 06:13.37 | jwwpua | Xinhuan: virtually |
| 06:13.37 | Xinhuan | or do you mean "real sort" where you keep the default UI 5-bag system |
| 06:13.40 | jwwpua | like sanitybags |
| 06:13.44 | Ellipsis | oh, then you want ArkInventory or Baggins |
| 06:13.44 | Xinhuan | and it really moves your items around |
| 06:13.57 | Xinhuan | see, huge difference there ;p |
| 06:14.00 | jwwpua | i wants it to go: grays, whites, greens, blues, purples |
| 06:14.17 | jwwpua | want* |
| 06:14.37 | Ellipsis | I wonder when Blizz will get around to redoing their bag system in a poor imitation of the virtual bags that are so popular... |
| 06:14.56 | Xinhuan | never, because a lot of people like me actally LIKE the default 5-bag system |
| 06:15.05 | jwwpua | which do you guys prefer for virtual sort? baggins or arkinventory? |
| 06:15.09 | Ellipsis | I like it except when the bag sizes don't fit my needs :P |
| 06:15.24 | aestil | buu: you there? |
| 06:15.24 | Ellipsis | jwwpua: I use Baggins because I like to be able to open single sections independently |
| 06:15.37 | Xinhuan | it allows me to keep my bags in a consistent manner, with stuff i keep in a certain bag, stuff for other things in another bag etc |
| 06:15.39 | Ellipsis | AI is more of an all-in-one display (although Baggins can display that way too) |
| 06:16.05 | Xinhuan | i could for eg, keep all my Fire Resist gear in 1 bag, and Shadow Resistgear in another bag, and dragging the bags will move their contents entirely between bank and inventory |
| 06:16.10 | Xinhuan | and that's all within default UI |
| 06:16.29 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I'm sort of torn between that approach and my Baggins setup, the thing is I often have a bag in Baggins that gets very large (like my grays bag while farming) and others that are small (like my consumables bag) |
| 06:16.46 | Xinhuan | i prefer the default bag approach tbh |
| 06:16.56 | Ellipsis | so I wish I could stretch and shrink default bags to consume more slots, or something |
| 06:17.08 | Xinhuan | going to molten core? move the FR bag from bank to my char bagslots |
| 06:17.10 | Ellipsis | but since there's no good way to do that with real slots, I gave in to the virtual bag concept :( |
| 06:17.52 | Xinhuan | also, i keep all the stuff i want to keep in the leftmost bags |
| 06:18.01 | Xinhuan | since looting stuff deposits them in the rightmost bag |
| 06:18.04 | jwwpua | can Baggins keep each color item in it's own virtual bag? |
| 06:18.09 | kenlyric | I use 15 different groups in AI |
| 06:18.10 | Ellipsis | yes jwwpua |
| 06:18.11 | Sarana | Yea |
| 06:18.13 | jwwpua | nice |
| 06:18.15 | jwwpua | i'll d/l it now :) |
| 06:18.19 | Ellipsis | that would be a very simple application of the rules system, but definitely doable :) |
| 06:18.32 | Jaxon | jwwpua: fair warning, Baggins setup is quite...involved. |
| 06:18.32 | Xinhuan | virtual bags have advantages though |
| 06:18.34 | kenlyric | sometimes it's dumb, like putting half my leather in tailoring. |
| 06:18.47 | kenlyric | (so I just put skinning and tailoring in the same bag) |
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| 06:18.48 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
| 06:18.50 | CIA-8 | - fixed a memory leak |
| 06:18.52 | CIA-8 | - enchant names can be localized now |
| 06:18.53 | Xinhuan | you could for eg, have the same item appear in multiple virtual bags |
| 06:19.01 | Xinhuan | and that's fairly convenient sometimes |
| 06:19.06 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: sounds like you need to spend more time on your config :P |
| 06:19.32 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: AI doesn't seem to have any logical setup. Like earlier bags trump later bags. |
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| 06:19.50 | kenlyric | and really Leather = Skinning should just be default priority. |
| 06:19.52 | jwwpua | will baggins auto-stack alike items? |
| 06:19.59 | Ellipsis | jwwpua: yep |
| 06:20.17 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: that sounds odd, there's no options for that at all? |
| 06:20.19 | Jaxon | I had the same problem as kenlyric, it got to the point that I couldn't just use "Leather" as a rule, I had to manually define more than a few items, which kind of ruins the point. |
| 06:20.42 | kenlyric | i might very well go back to baggins. |
| 06:20.55 | Sarana | You might want to check out Baggins_Professions... |
| 06:20.56 | kenlyric | I do like that AI keeps bag opens in specific situations (like leaving the bank) |
| 06:21.24 | Sarana | Adds rules for professions you know and items that are not in any of your own professions. |
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| 06:22.27 | CIA-8 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 06:22.27 | CIA-8 | - Update readme file |
| 06:23.12 | jwwpua | wow Baggins looks awesome |
| 06:23.24 | jwwpua | sorting all my weapons/trash/etc |
| 06:23.35 | Ellipsis | yep, and that's just the default config :) |
| 06:23.37 | Jaxon | Sarana: That works fine until I get to my bank alts that have mats for all my professions |
| 06:23.47 | Ellipsis | you can tweak it however you like, or redo it completely if you're OCD like me |
| 06:24.10 | Sarana | Jaxon, ah good point... maybe I'll have to add alt support to that plugin. |
| 06:24.24 | Sarana | <- Nayala |
| 06:24.43 | Jaxon | Sarana: maybe it was my rules. I was using PT3 rules for most of my categories and there is lots of crossover for those. |
| 06:25.06 | Jaxon | Regardless, I found a solution which suited me. Updating an old copy of vBagnon |
| 06:25.43 | Nargiddley | Jaxon, 2.3 brought way better item types. Can do most of the profession stuff without pt now |
| 06:26.05 | Ellipsis | certain item types didn't get any love, though :( |
| 06:26.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah and theres a lot of items that are catagorized wrong |
| 06:27.17 | Arrowmaster | like every one of my bop minipets is Misc Junk instead of Misc Minipet |
| 06:27.33 | Ellipsis | ...that's PT |
| 06:27.42 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
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| 06:27.49 | CIA-8 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 06:27.49 | CIA-8 | - Minor change to readme.txt |
| 06:28.00 | Arrowmaster | because i did /print GetItemInfo() to get teh catagories |
| 06:28.06 | Ellipsis | then it's not minipet |
| 06:28.07 | Ellipsis | it's pet :P |
| 06:28.13 | Arrowmaster | whatever it is |
| 06:28.13 | Sarana | I've noticed some stuff like that with some of the holiday stuff. |
| 06:28.26 | Ellipsis | the holiday ones are absolutely HORRIBLE |
| 06:28.36 | Ellipsis | I had to add like 12 item IDs to my holiday category in Baggins |
| 06:28.37 | Arrowmaster | and theres some oddities with junk and quest |
| 06:28.42 | Ellipsis | and that's just the holiday items I *have* |
| 06:28.51 | Ellipsis | there's oddities everywhere |
| 06:28.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:29.11 | Ellipsis | BoP trade goods drive me nuts |
| 06:29.15 | Arrowmaster | like all the armor tokens are junk when imho they should be quest |
| 06:29.27 | Ellipsis | and why are arcane runes consumables? |
| 06:29.45 | Arrowmaster | what are bg tokens? |
| 06:30.28 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: how do you make baggins open one bag at a time? |
| 06:30.56 | Zhinjio | man, I can't get over how happy I am with my interface now. I'm usually always pissed about some aspect of it or another. |
| 06:30.59 | Zhinjio | but not this time. |
| 06:31.03 | Zhinjio | its just working really well |
| 06:31.24 | Sarana | Zhinjio: Careful you'll jinx yourself. |
| 06:31.30 | Zhinjio | heh, I suppose. |
| 06:31.41 | Zhinjio | boredom will eventually set in and I'll have to change something again |
| 06:31.45 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: there's no keybindings yet (hint hint Nargiddley) but you can click the bags in the fubar tooltip |
| 06:31.52 | Zhinjio | but at least its not a functionality problem. |
| 06:31.56 | Zhinjio | that drives the change, this time. |
| 06:31.58 | Ellipsis | or do what I do and open all then close the ones you don't need at the time |
| 06:32.00 | Ellipsis | <--lazy |
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| 06:40.00 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: what do you do when you need to change the types of bags you have using baggins? |
| 06:40.03 | kenlyric | that always bugged me. |
| 06:40.35 | Sarana | If you still have the normal bag buttons showing you can just drag the new bag untop of the old one. As long as it's larger the game will swap the contents. |
| 06:41.19 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: what do you mean change the types of bags? |
| 06:41.21 | kenlyric | which I can't imagine why you'd have. |
| 06:41.33 | Ellipsis | like, swap my enchanting bag in for my shard bag or something? |
| 06:41.46 | kenlyric | no, replacing a 16 slotter with an 18 slotter, etc. |
| 06:41.49 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 06:41.53 | Ellipsis | well that doesn't happen terribly often |
| 06:42.35 | Ellipsis | I guess I'd just enable my bag bar? |
| 06:42.35 | Sarana | As long as the bag can contain the same items just drag the new bag over the old bag button. You may have to get your button bars to show the bag bar if you've disabled it. |
| 06:42.43 | Ellipsis | there's no way to access it from within baggins |
| 06:43.20 | Xinhuan | its one of those programming oversights that the author doesn't care about, possibly because he always has bag buttons showing |
| 06:43.24 | kenlyric | someone is working on a new bag mod that seems to be exactly what I want. But I don't remember who. And it's in unreleased alpha |
| 06:43.43 | Ellipsis | it doesn't bother me too much because I'm a tailor and tend to make/upgrade my bags all at once and then never deal with it again |
| 06:43.52 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: combuctor? |
| 06:44.20 | kenlyric | maybe |
| 06:44.23 | kenlyric | sounds right. |
| 06:44.57 | kenlyric | does baggins let you yet copy your bag config to your bank config? I seem to remember each had independent configuration |
| 06:45.10 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:45.24 | Nargiddley | you can copy one bag from another |
| 06:45.25 | Ellipsis | they're independent with no way to copy |
| 06:46.02 | Ellipsis | I usually have completely different setups for them anyway, but that's just me *shrug* |
| 06:46.21 | Ellipsis | and combuctor is tuller's, btw |
| 06:46.38 | sylvanaar | simcity societies is pretty fun, i just installed it |
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| 07:01.40 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 07:01.40 | CIA-8 | - zhtw update |
| 07:01.44 | Zhinjio | freeware m4a to mp3 converter, apropos of nothing? |
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| 07:02.26 | buu | aestil HA HA. |
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| 07:26.02 | Orionshock | how do u set the item link on a tool tip? |
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| 07:27.44 | Xinhuan | tooltip:SetHyperlink(link) |
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| 07:43.00 | Zhinjio | hmm. Why is EQCompare showing up as incompatible? |
| 07:43.58 | Diao | because it is incompatible |
| 07:44.01 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r56034 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix some errors that occur when no data is present. |
| 07:46.00 | Lukian | Xinhuan, does BankItems display item count in tooltip? |
| 07:46.07 | Xinhuan | itemcount? |
| 07:46.09 | Xinhuan | no |
| 07:46.20 | Xinhuan | planned to be added |
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| 07:46.25 | CIA-8 | Quartz: |
| 07:46.25 | CIA-8 | - add null check on oldStart during QuartzTarget:UNIT_SPELLCAST_DELAYED and QuartzTarget:UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_UPDATE |
| 07:46.31 | Xinhuan | but "itemcount" is vague |
| 07:46.37 | Lukian | Sweet, I wanna use it, but I can't till that's there. |
| 07:46.37 | Zhinjio | Diao: I never would have thought of that on my own. Thanks. |
| 07:46.43 | Lukian | well, just what Sanity does |
| 07:46.45 | Diao | np |
| 07:46.47 | Diao | :) |
| 07:46.47 | Xinhuan | i don't know what sanity does |
| 07:46.55 | Lukian | i'll find a screenie |
| 07:47.15 | Diao | sanity is a "what's in your bags/bank/mail/alts" mod |
| 07:47.20 | Diao | that can be searched |
| 07:47.29 | Xinhuan | that is exactly what BankItems is |
| 07:47.32 | Lukian | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/sanity/SanityAce/screens/WoWScrnShot_111506_011530.jpg |
| 07:47.39 | Xinhuan | without the tooltip part |
| 07:47.41 | Diao | bi has a search now? |
| 07:47.44 | Diao | :O |
| 07:47.51 | Xinhuan | i added the search function like half a year ago |
| 07:47.54 | Diao | oh |
| 07:47.56 | Diao | haven't tried it in a while |
| 07:48.24 | Lukian | WTB tooltip part and I'm in love :) |
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| 07:48.25 | Xinhuan | which part of the tooltip does sanity add? |
| 07:48.37 | Lukian | Adryne has [Bags: 7] |
| 07:48.41 | Xinhuan | abc has [bags: 7]? |
| 07:48.45 | Lukian | Anotheralt has [Bank: 2] |
| 07:48.45 | Xinhuan | the other 2 lines aren't by sanity? |
| 07:48.50 | Lukian | nope |
| 07:48.54 | Diao | tags is |
| 07:48.59 | Diao | the 3rd line |
| 07:49.06 | Lukian | well, I've never seen those before |
| 07:49.09 | Diao | category might be as well |
| 07:49.12 | Diao | you have to tag the item that's why |
| 07:49.17 | Diao | if you don't tag the item it won't show up in the tooltip |
| 07:49.17 | Lukian | I just want to know which characters have items and how many :) |
| 07:49.31 | Xinhuan | it can be done, you're the 4th person requesting it |
| 07:50.55 | Lukian | awesome :) |
| 07:51.33 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56037 10PowerDisplay/PowerDisplay.lua: PowerDisplay: A bit too fanatic with uploading. Should really work now. |
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| 08:03.54 | Zhinjio | Now I'm getting inspired to write a version of guildads that is ace based and actually fucking works. |
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| 08:06.22 | Xinhuan | guildads? |
| 08:06.42 | ramoz | im reading guild-dads and thinking "wtf?" |
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| 08:23.47 | CIA-8 | 03next96 * r56038 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: |
| 08:23.47 | CIA-8 | Bartender3: |
| 08:23.47 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 08:39.12 | jwwpua | anyone use Baggins_ItemRack? |
| 08:39.39 | jwwpua | I'm trying to figure out how to make it show each set of armor in it's own category |
| 08:41.11 | Nargiddley | Create a category with the rule for the set in it, Add a section to a bag and add that category to it |
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| 08:41.33 | jwwpua | ok thanks |
| 08:41.54 | jwwpua | I thought the addon automatically created categories for each set, but I didn't know I needed to use the rule to create it. makes sense |
| 08:44.32 | jwwpua | Nargiddley: do you know the Item type for "tabard" ? |
| 08:44.37 | Sarana | I've thought about adding automatic rule generation to Baggins_ItemRack / Baggins_ClosetGnome but never came up with a good default. |
| 08:45.33 | jwwpua | I'm trying to exclude Tabards from TrashEquip. is there a rule I could make to do that? |
| 08:45.58 | Sarana | Nargiddley: at some point it might be nice to change the plugin interface to allow the rules to be done in waterfall instead of dewdrop. |
| 08:46.18 | jwwpua | oh wait, think I got it |
| 08:46.54 | Ellipsis | uh...I can do my config in waterfall |
| 08:47.14 | Sarana | Yes but the Plugins are done by dewdrops. |
| 08:47.33 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 08:48.13 | Sarana | Might be nice if the rule editting showed up as normal forms instead of popup menus. |
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| 08:52.25 | jwwpua | how would it work if I have 2 ItemRack sets (enhance PvE and enhance PvP), and some of the items "overlap" between sets. is there a way to tell Baggins which Category I want to hold those items 1st? |
| 08:53.28 | Nargiddley | increase the priority of the section you want them in |
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| 08:54.29 | jwwpua | ahh nice |
| 08:57.01 | jwwpua | Nargiddley: ok I did that, but the items are showing in both categories (even tho I didn't check "allow duplicates" for those categories) |
| 08:58.08 | Nargiddley | theres a global setting for that as well |
| 08:58.12 | jwwpua | oh I gotta enable "hide duplicate items" and then "allow duplicates" will override that, right? |
| 08:58.21 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 08:58.25 | jwwpua | nice nice addon |
| 09:00.51 | TNSe | how much of a performance hit is it really to use the "red questionmark" and #showtooltip in macros :P |
| 09:07.17 | Sarana | I've never noticed a hit from using those. But only had about 7~10 macros set up that way. |
| 09:10.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r729 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/ (4 files): TourGuide - Adding user-submitted Horde 44-47 guides |
| 09:10.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r730 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (5 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - Minor tweaks to user-submitted Horde 44-47 guides |
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| 09:21.27 | CIA-8 | 03next96 * r56039 10nQuestLog/modules/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:21.31 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog : |
| 09:21.35 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 09:29.56 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_QuestObjectives: |
| 09:30.02 | CIA-8 | - fixed german tranlation error |
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| 09:35.12 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Beta * r56042 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 09:35.16 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0: |
| 09:35.20 | CIA-8 | ACE-91 - fix loading modules in OnInit causing multiple Oninits to fire. Thanks Nymbia |
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| 09:41.00 | Bejitt | odd.. i thought there was a repuatation fubar plugin or something |
| 09:42.32 | Kalroth | FuBar_FactionsFu ? |
| 09:43.00 | Bejitt | ahhh |
| 09:44.16 | Bejitt | ty |
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| 09:44.45 | wereHamster | wow, so there will be ace3? |
| 09:45.07 | Ellipsis | <insert joke about wereHamster living under a Rock> |
| 09:45.14 | Bejitt | Ellipsis: rofl |
| 09:45.18 | Bejitt | wait.. |
| 09:45.19 | QuantumDelta | <pats Ellipsis> |
| 09:45.26 | wereHamster | I actually do.. |
| 09:45.46 | QuantumDelta | is that related to being a werehamster? |
| 09:45.47 | wereHamster | my WoW account is inactive |
| 09:47.24 | QuantumDelta | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace3 |
| 09:52.36 | wereHamster | Ace, Ace2, Rock, Ace3... there's neves enough to choose from |
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| 10:13.45 | Orionshock | ... so we had a a kara geared pally Solo Heal tiger boss in ZG.... |
| 10:14.09 | Iceroth | nerf pallys? |
| 10:15.47 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r56043 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (RomuloJulianne.lua ShadeOfAran.lua): BigWigs: update zhCN local for RomuloJulianne |
| 10:15.59 | Orionshock | it amazed me atleast |
| 10:17.15 | Codayus | Tiger = Lynx? |
| 10:17.55 | Codayus | That's...fairly scary. I'd assume the tanks were extremely well geared. |
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| 10:23.18 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Beta * r56044 10Ace3/AceBucket-3.0/AceBucket-3.0.lua: |
| 10:23.22 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceBucket-3.0: |
| 10:23.30 | CIA-8 | ACE-93 - Fix typo buckts->buckets |
| 10:23.56 | winkiller | hey, native speakers. "a xml file" or "an xml file" - writing or pronunciation the decisive factor? |
| 10:24.40 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r56045 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 10:24.40 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:24.40 | CIA-8 | - Added the Kara buff books to the trash loot |
| 10:25.44 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r56046 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (loottables.cn.lua loottables.en.lua loottables.tw.lua): |
| 10:25.44 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:25.44 | CIA-8 | - Removed the karabooks entry |
| 10:25.44 | CIA-8 | - Added the Shattrath Flasks entry (only English) |
| 10:25.45 | Ellipsis | winkiller: most of the time people will go with "an xml file" especially with an acronym like that :) |
| 10:25.57 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r56047 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 10:25.59 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 10:26.01 | CIA-8 | - added the Shattrath Flasks |
| 10:26.02 | Codayus | winkiller: an. Pronunciation is always determinate. |
| 10:26.08 | winkiller | thanks |
| 10:26.12 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56048 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua PowerDisplay.toc pdOptions.lua): |
| 10:26.14 | CIA-8 | PowerDisplay |
| 10:26.16 | CIA-8 | - Added Ranged AP |
| 10:26.17 | Codayus | If you pronounce it *LIKE* a vowel, it's "an". |
| 10:26.18 | CIA-8 | - Fixed color options |
| 10:26.20 | CIA-8 | - Added code for a 3th (yet inactive) line |
| 10:26.20 | winkiller | well, we never learned words with X in school :P |
| 10:26.26 | Codayus | Gah, CIA spam. |
| 10:26.27 | winkiller | it's a special case imo :P |
| 10:26.42 | winkiller | mhm, xylophone I guess |
| 10:26.54 | Codayus | Yes, but it actually applies to a lot of English words which start with a consonant, but sound like a vowel. |
| 10:26.58 | winkiller | whatever, I'm not fully awake yet - thanks a lot |
| 10:27.04 | Codayus | (I admit, none spring to mind right now as examples.) |
| 10:27.18 | winkiller | a ymca cd? ;) |
| 10:27.28 | Iceroth | "an hour" |
| 10:28.08 | Ellipsis | and depending on accent, "an historical document" or "an herb" |
| 10:28.21 | Codayus | Yeah, thanks. And y is a special case again. As the phrase goes "a e i o u and sometimes y". :-) |
| 10:29.24 | winkiller | lol |
| 10:29.35 | winkiller | that song rocks anyway :) |
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| 10:34.24 | krka | i understand "an herb" but not "an historical" |
| 10:34.48 | krka | is it because it's hard to say an h after a vowel? |
| 10:35.33 | Ellipsis | many people pronounce "historical" with a silent h |
| 10:36.40 | CIA-8 | 03helium * r56049 10TankPoints/ (TankPoints.toc embeds.xml): |
| 10:36.40 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 10:36.40 | CIA-8 | - use embeds.xml |
| 10:36.40 | CIA-8 | - fix X-Embeds so that WowAceUpdater will download StatFrameLib |
| 10:39.44 | Diao | i have never heard anyone say historical with a silent h |
| 10:44.17 | krka | i ate ilent etters |
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| 10:47.28 | Codayus | Actually, it's not hard to say an h after a vowel, but that sequence of sounds is already a word - ahistorical. Can be confusing. |
| 10:54.36 | QuantumDelta | Antiarc are you around this morning? :) |
| 10:54.43 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 10:54.54 | Antiarc | It's 4 AM but I'm awake! :D |
| 10:55.00 | QuantumDelta | There's a few protadins doing some flawed tests on their threat |
| 10:55.06 | Antiarc | oh? |
| 10:55.09 | QuantumDelta | but the results yielded something that might be of interest to you |
| 10:55.27 | QuantumDelta | You know the 2% threat enchant on gloves? |
| 10:55.35 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 10:55.44 | QuantumDelta | it seems to have weird effects on their tests |
| 10:55.59 | QuantumDelta | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1726842822&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 10:56.01 | QuantumDelta | full thread |
| 10:56.31 | QuantumDelta | I will do some testing about their issue later myself, but that's not an omen problem ;) |
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| 10:56.50 | Lukian | errrr |
| 10:57.05 | Lukian | I just updated and something messed with UI scale / lootwindow size/placement |
| 10:57.28 | QuantumDelta | you got a back up? :P |
| 10:57.58 | Antiarc | That would seem to indicate that whne you use a high mana RF, it actually increases your threat generation |
| 10:58.15 | Lukian | QuantumDelta, nah, it's not a major issue |
| 10:58.24 | QuantumDelta | well I haven't tested it myself |
| 10:58.37 | QuantumDelta | though I have had some weirdness (one occurance) of what they're describing on supremus |
| 10:58.51 | QuantumDelta | I'm not convinced though |
| 11:00.04 | QuantumDelta | but getting/losing agro 2% prior to omens indication seems a bit suspect of that glove enchant |
| 11:01.18 | QuantumDelta | unfortunately I don't have 2% threat on my gloves (waiting for T6, azgalor tonight!) |
| 11:01.27 | Codayus | Hmm, humans are very very bad at stastically meaningful observation. |
| 11:01.31 | QuantumDelta | so i wont be able to test that |
| 11:01.33 | QuantumDelta | heh indeed |
| 11:01.38 | Codayus | But in retrospect, I have seen some oddities with out pally tank. |
| 11:02.03 | Codayus | ...but if you LOOK for oddities, you tend to find them. Still, that would explain a couple odd wipes... |
| 11:02.23 | QuantumDelta | The problem is, it's so intermittant it's hard to provide evidence for it, the best thing you can do is parse every combat log for any raid/party you ever embark on |
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| 11:02.44 | QuantumDelta | but like I said |
| 11:02.46 | Codayus | Speaking of weird enchants, did you see the testing on what Icy Chill does at lvl 70? |
| 11:02.47 | QuantumDelta | I remain skeptical |
| 11:02.59 | QuantumDelta | What's up with Icy? |
| 11:03.16 | Codayus | Well, you know what it should do, right? Slowing effect on your target? |
| 11:03.21 | QuantumDelta | yup |
| 11:03.34 | Codayus | Turns out the scaling code um...doesn't. It procs a *haste* *buff* at lvl 70. |
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| 11:03.52 | QuantumDelta | it gives haste to your target? |
| 11:03.54 | QuantumDelta | hehehe |
| 11:03.56 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 11:04.04 | QuantumDelta | brilliant |
| 11:04.09 | Ellipsis | yeah, fixed in 2.3.2 though |
| 11:05.03 | Codayus | Is it? I saw a mention of Icy Chill in the notes, but knowing Bliz, that could have meant anything. :-) |
| 11:05.08 | ramoz | is 2.3.2 due this week? |
| 11:05.55 | Ellipsis | Icy Chill Enchant: The triggered effect from this enchantment will now cause a melee slow and movement snare as intended. |
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| 11:06.19 | Codayus | Still, drives home just how...interesting their code can act at times. |
| 11:06.21 | Ellipsis | I recall seeing notes somewhere that specifically said "no longer increase attack speed" but I might be imagining that |
| 11:07.07 | Codayus | Ellipsis: I didn't see anything about attack speed...so, as I read it, it might or might not address the "scales to an opposite effect at 70" bug. *shrug* Not that it matters much, I can't imagine how you'd exploit it. |
| 11:07.51 | Codayus | (Let's see, duel your friend, proc icy chill on him, then he uses the insane power of a tiny haste buff to... ...nope, I got nothing.) |
| 11:08.27 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 11:10.56 | Codayus | Actually, can you explain the "low man"/"double mana" RF comments? |
| 11:11.03 | Codayus | RF doesn't always cost the same? |
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| 11:12.13 | Ellipsis | ah, I found where I saw that |
| 11:12.16 | Ellipsis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2967993639&sid=1 |
| 11:12.28 | Ellipsis | post #3, tradeskills: -The Icy Chill enchant is causing the debuffed target to attack faster, and is not snaring the target. |
| 11:12.36 | Arrowmaster | the healthfunnel bug theyre fixing in 2.3.2 is really fucking old btw |
| 11:12.50 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Ah, okay. |
| 11:13.01 | Ellipsis | so I'm guessing the note in 2.3.2 is that fix |
| 11:13.06 | Codayus | Tanks everywhere rejoice! YOu can now use Icy Chill again. |
| 11:13.26 | Ellipsis | ...yay |
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| 11:13.44 | Codayus | Which reminds me of a Naxx guild I knew that made EVERY melee class get Unholy enchants. They claimed the combined effect was very powerful. |
| 11:13.52 | Codayus | (No, really. Required to raid.) |
| 11:13.53 | Arrowmaster | lol its not |
| 11:14.00 | Arrowmaster | doesnt stack |
| 11:14.15 | Ellipsis | lol fail |
| 11:15.17 | Codayus | Well, yes, it was something of an epic fail. In their defense, they were stacking it across the raid to try and increase uptime. They didn't think it stacked. |
| 11:15.33 | Arrowmaster | hahaha |
| 11:15.34 | Codayus | But it's such a LOW proc rate, they wanted it up all the time. |
| 11:15.43 | Arrowmaster | the debuff itself is so fucking shitty |
| 11:15.44 | Codayus | ....wait, that's not much of a defense, is it... |
| 11:15.59 | Codayus | Wowhead tells me... -15 damage caused. :-) |
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| 11:16.13 | Codayus | For 12s... |
| 11:16.22 | Arrowmaster | which isnt much |
| 11:16.41 | Arrowmaster | and wtf that should have gotten changed when curse of weakness got the nerfbat |
| 11:18.40 | Codayus | Ah? |
| 11:19.46 | Zhinjio | having trouble gettting motivated to code tonight. |
| 11:20.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah curse of weakness used to be -31 damage caused i think and got the nerfbat because of druids |
| 11:20.27 | Hjalte | Zhinjio: Code me something nice and i'll do the happy-dance. |
| 11:20.30 | Arrowmaster | or it was -31 at 60 i think but blizzard actually made it useful at 70 in tbc beta |
| 11:21.18 | Zhinjio | heh. |
| 11:21.43 | Ellipsis | lol, CoW getting nerfed? |
| 11:21.45 | Codayus | Well, CoW at other effects have always been *REALLY* bizarre due to the oddities of mob scaling and AP mechanics... |
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| 11:22.49 | Nocts | Anyone still have that UI mockup made by Bant, of his "Dream interface"? |
| 11:23.39 | Arrowmaster | no CoW got nerfed during tbc beta |
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| 11:24.07 | Ellipsis | you can't nerf something that has zero use in the first place... |
| 11:24.19 | Arrowmaster | when blizzard made it actually somewhat useful at 70 the druids complained so they changed it to its current even more useless form |
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| 11:39.37 | bigzero | netherwing has like the worst dailies |
| 11:41.09 | Orionshock | is there a away from guild bank view'er mod? |
| 11:41.22 | Xinhuan | BankItems |
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| 11:48.02 | Orionshock | um no |
| 11:48.13 | Fisker-- | NO U |
| 11:49.16 | DreadWingKnight | Antiarc: you ever get requests to have your sig generator show different portraits based on level bracket? |
| 11:49.27 | Antiarc | No, heh |
| 11:49.48 | Antiarc | I figured people could use a custom portrait if they wanted to |
| 11:50.21 | DreadWingKnight | I tweaked it to show different portraits based on level bracket on my server (1-59, 60-69, 70) |
| 11:51.37 | DreadWingKnight | took longer to get the portraits than it did to tweak the code |
| 11:54.29 | DreadWingKnight | the portraits update automatically at 60 and 70 (like on wow's armory) |
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| 12:01.02 | DreadWingKnight | boredom does odd things to people sometimes |
| 12:05.08 | Xinhuan | Gurtogg Bloodboil down!!!! |
| 12:05.10 | Xinhuan | :) |
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| 12:07.18 | Azurewrath | Xinhuan: grats :) |
| 12:07.31 | Xinhuan | 2 hours of work :) |
| 12:07.54 | Azurewrath | thats fast, he's one of the harder bosses in BT imho |
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| 12:08.09 | Xinhuan | we spent 3 hours on gorefiend |
| 12:08.16 | Xinhuan | and 2 on bloodboil |
| 12:08.21 | Xinhuan | so 5 hours, for 2 new dead bosses |
| 12:08.29 | winkiller | Antiarc! update svn with my patch :P |
| 12:08.52 | winkiller | (talking about armory tools) |
| 12:12.57 | Xinhuan | Azurewrath, is there anyway to rez on that ramp to RoS? :) |
| 12:13.13 | Xinhuan | or must we reclear 2 minutes of gauntlet trash |
| 12:14.32 | Azurewrath | hmm... it IS possible to rez there, but the respawn window is very small.. |
| 12:14.42 | Xinhuan | so its not possible? :) |
| 12:14.49 | Xinhuan | withtou aggroing either the boss or a pack of trash |
| 12:15.14 | Azurewrath | it is, as i said.. but the resser must be quick, since the small red thingies respawn in ~10-11secs |
| 12:15.17 | Gngsk | once you learn that trash it takes way less than 2 min to clear it |
| 12:15.29 | Azurewrath | thats the other point ;) |
| 12:15.42 | Xinhuan | we only took like 2 minutes to clear on our first try anyway, but some nub ran down and "oh he aggros?" |
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| 12:15.43 | Xinhuan | lolz |
| 12:16.02 | Gngsk | typical first pull mistake |
| 12:16.24 | Gngsk | RoS is one of the cooler fights in BT, have fun learning it |
| 12:16.50 | Azurewrath | i love RoS.. especially as the mage who steals the Rune Shield in P2 ;) |
| 12:18.12 | Xinhuan | well, of the first 5 BT bosses, none of them took longer than a single night of learning to first-kill it so far |
| 12:18.12 | Xinhuan | archimonde though... took us 3 weeks ~_~ |
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| 12:19.52 | ramoz | Xinhuan: we hade 120+ wipes on archimonde :) |
| 12:20.11 | Xinhuan | "why the fuck did you die?" "blink was on cooldown" |
| 12:20.18 | Azurewrath | Archimonde sucks.. but it's much easier now.. with 40y decurse Range and Fear Ward |
| 12:20.19 | Xinhuan | massive ventrilo bash follows |
| 12:20.51 | ramoz | i actually have no idea why we wiped so much, people died somehow |
| 12:21.47 | Azurewrath | mostly the same people who catch a doomfire all the time etc. |
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| 12:24.32 | Azurewrath | great... trying to connect an esata device.. and the cable i have is sata to esata.. i need esata to esata... bah |
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| 12:41.56 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56051 10TipHookerLib/TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua: |
| 12:41.56 | CIA-8 | TipHookerLib: |
| 12:41.56 | CIA-8 | - Added Mirror support |
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| 13:14.06 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56052 10aUF_barFader/aUF_barFader.lua: aUF_barFader: now fades healthbar |
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| 13:21.32 | sag_ich_nicht | woah big split there |
| 13:22.11 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 13:22.15 | Ellipsis | also: hi <3 |
| 13:23.09 | sag_ich_nicht | hi |
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| 13:25.16 | sag_ich_nicht | add power cost displaying to drdamage please? :( |
| 13:25.51 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 13:25.54 | Ellipsis | that sounds tricky |
| 13:27.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i made a rogue alt |
| 13:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and i want the energy cost displayed on the actionbuttons |
| 13:27.28 | sag_ich_nicht | because else i'll never lern2play rogue :/ |
| 13:27.31 | Ellipsis | isn't it displayed by default? o.O |
| 13:27.37 | Ellipsis | like, in the default ability tooltip |
| 13:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 13:27.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't want it in the tooltip |
| 13:28.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i want it on the actionbutton. |
| 13:28.30 | Ellipsis | well you're dumb then |
| 13:28.31 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 13:28.38 | Ellipsis | jk, ilu <3 |
| 13:28.56 | Ellipsis | but seriously, I think power cost isn't as trivial as it sounds |
| 13:29.04 | Ellipsis | just think of those % of base mana abilities |
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| 13:29.19 | kenlyric | that would be handy. |
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| 13:29.26 | kenlyric | does dr.damage do rogues? |
| 13:29.29 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 13:29.30 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 13:29.34 | kenlyric | he finally gave in then? |
| 13:29.41 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 13:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | long time ago |
| 13:30.01 | sag_ich_nicht | the values of dr. damage are always way off for my paladin |
| 13:30.05 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 13:30.25 | sag_ich_nicht | SoC shows ~7000 average damage in a raid setting |
| 13:30.35 | ramoz | that's cause you're paladin is a fag, im sad to say |
| 13:30.41 | kenlyric | ^ |
| 13:30.43 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 13:30.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you spelled your wrong |
| 13:30.48 | kenlyric | oh, sorry, not ^ |
| 13:30.52 | kenlyric | "all paladins |
| 13:30.54 | ramoz | shit! |
| 13:30.59 | ramoz | anyway |
| 13:31.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and don't know shit about the game |
| 13:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | kill yourself |
| 13:31.08 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 13:31.20 | Hyacinth | Dr. Damage = Theorycraft-esque mod? |
| 13:31.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 13:31.26 | kenlyric | so I finally got a recipe on my hunter. |
| 13:31.31 | kenlyric | spell crit food. |
| 13:31.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 13:31.50 | Ellipsis | grats kenlyric! :P |
| 13:31.50 | ramoz | lol owned |
| 13:31.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i guess you could use more arcane shot crits |
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| 13:32.21 | ramoz | im only missing the blue cake thing |
| 13:32.24 | kenlyric | is there a macro conditional that can tell if i'm in a battleground? |
| 13:32.51 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Yes I'm going to add it |
| 13:33.00 | kenlyric | I always forget to move arcane shot into my stead shot/KC command macro slot |
| 13:33.17 | kenlyric | I suppose I could just move arcane shot to a permanent location. |
| 13:33.33 | Gagorian | And if you want to help fix SoC.. Sure! |
| 13:33.35 | kenlyric | since it's more useful now. |
| 13:37.07 | kenlyric | Load you stupid fucker! |
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| 13:38.00 | kenlyric | need a mod, !!!LoadPT3.1 |
| 13:38.18 | Ellipsis | for what? o.O |
| 13:38.38 | [Ammo] | enable it and it loads? |
| 13:38.52 | [Ammo] | as in it works fine for me |
| 13:38.59 | kenlyric | bulkmail doesn't. |
| 13:39.10 | Ellipsis | it doesn't? |
| 13:39.18 | [Ammo] | boggle? |
| 13:39.21 | Ellipsis | are you sure you have the lib installed and enabled and all that jazz? |
| 13:39.22 | kenlyric | all the LoD pieces are all half-gone |
| 13:39.51 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 13:39.53 | kenlyric | it's a very old problem with BM running disembedded. |
| 13:39.59 | [Ammo] | oh |
| 13:40.00 | Ellipsis | wait, you mean the specific modules aren't getting loaded? |
| 13:40.05 | [Ammo] | I use it and it works |
| 13:40.07 | kenlyric | pieces of them aren't |
| 13:40.09 | [Ammo] | checking |
| 13:40.24 | Ellipsis | if you use Baggins, it has some settings to force load them |
| 13:40.29 | [Ammo] | it opt-deps fine |
| 13:40.29 | Ellipsis | might be a decent workaround |
| 13:40.30 | kenlyric | it had |
| 13:40.32 | kenlyric | that's gone now |
| 13:41.07 | kenlyric | it's completely random each load which rules will be there too. |
| 13:41.15 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 13:41.17 | kenlyric | today I have no TradeskillResults |
| 13:41.22 | kenlyric | which I don't use. |
| 13:41.25 | [Ammo] | sounds like your install is fuxored |
| 13:41.36 | kenlyric | but Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession has never had any professions in it. |
| 13:41.45 | Ellipsis | I can't imagine why it would actually *change* which modules get loaded o.O |
| 13:42.09 | kenlyric | [2007/11/26 08:38:53-80-x1]: LibPeriodicTable-3.1\LibPeriodicTable-3.1.lua:268: Invalid set: Consumable.Weapon Buff.Stone.Sharpening Stone |
| 13:44.13 | kenlyric | odd... shouldn't LibPerioditcTable-3.1 have other directories? |
| 13:44.31 | [Ammo] | were they unpacked? |
| 13:44.38 | [Ammo] | I think your install is screwed |
| 13:44.47 | [Ammo] | delete all LibPeriodic stuffs and reinstall |
| 13:44.51 | kenlyric | I just redid everything last week. |
| 13:45.05 | Ellipsis | "delete your WTF and Interface dirs and try again" |
| 13:45.08 | kenlyric | periodic table is properly unpacked and used to cause the same problems. |
| 13:45.15 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 13:45.31 | [Ammo] | all I can say is it works for me |
| 13:45.56 | [Ammo] | unpacked et all |
| 13:45.56 | kenlyric | and you don't run embedded? |
| 13:45.56 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 13:45.59 | kenlyric | and you use bulkmail2? |
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| 13:46.02 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 13:46.07 | [Ammo] | with rules |
| 13:46.14 | Ellipsis | I never had problems with it disembedded either, though I stopped using PT recently |
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| 13:47.42 | kenlyric | [Ammo]: can you think of any other mod that might be loading LoD sets on startup? |
| 13:47.50 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 13:47.54 | [Ammo] | I use a few PT3.1 addons |
| 13:48.07 | [Ammo] | BulkMail, Mendeleev, branch MrPlow |
| 13:48.25 | Ellipsis | cart instance loot uses it too |
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| 13:48.46 | [Ammo] | oh yeah that |
| 13:48.51 | kenlyric | never really check/know if those are working as intended. |
| 13:49.00 | kenlyric | it's always Tradeskill that I need to work and is horked. |
| 13:49.16 | kenlyric | well, now I have subdirectories for LibPT, so we'll see. |
| 13:49.28 | kenlyric | well, not subdirectories |
| 13:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:32] <Gagorian> sag_ich_nicht: Yes I'm going to add it <--<3 |
| 13:51.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:33] <Gagorian> And if you want to help fix SoC.. Sure! <--i wouldn't know where to start... you could just go randomly stab people in here tho: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17193-paladin_retribution_dps_theorycraft/ |
| 13:51.18 | kenlyric | ok, libpt seems fine now, all sets in pt browser again. |
| 13:51.28 | kenlyric | I probably horked something playing around trying to fix it last night. |
| 13:51.39 | kenlyric | but BM is back to missing specific categories. |
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| 13:57.06 | kenlyric | on a char with no other mods it works perfectly. |
| 13:57.20 | kenlyric | so... very odd mod conflict. |
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| 14:00.49 | TNSe | so.... using #showtooltip and "red questionmark" in macros,does that hurt performance significantly? :P |
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| 14:02.58 | Ellipsis | woot, manalicious today <3 |
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| 14:07.44 | Josh_Borke | Ellipsis: i got revenge is tasty again :-/ |
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| 14:21.06 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 14:23.51 | kenlyric | they should let you combine 10 brilliant feathers into a kaliri wing. |
| 14:23.59 | ramoz | hahaha |
| 14:24.10 | ramoz | you're not the first to complain, kenlyric |
| 14:27.30 | Hotphoenix | those kaliri wings are good, i went to get one and had an epic drop :> |
| 14:27.46 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:27.50 | Josh_Borke | grats |
| 14:29.10 | kenlyric | wow. |
| 14:29.17 | kenlyric | *sob |
| 14:29.29 | kenlyric | it really sucks to have two 70s. |
| 14:30.29 | kenlyric | accepted the quest on my priest, not my hunter. |
| 14:32.38 | winkiller | I got 3 70s, poor me :/ |
| 14:33.31 | kenlyric | accepted the quest on my priest, got distracted by bulkmail troubles, then came on my hunter thinking I had already accepted the quest. |
| 14:33.37 | kenlyric | 13 birds later, fail |
| 14:33.43 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:34.15 | winkiller | l2shift click quests to track ;) |
| 14:34.24 | kenlyric | uh |
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| 14:34.39 | winkiller | I always do that, so.. never fails |
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| 14:35.23 | kenlyric | well, if I had my quest window open to shift-click it to track it, I would have seen that I hadn't accepted. |
| 14:36.32 | kenlyric | hahah. first one. |
| 14:37.06 | winkiller | well. sort of a habit |
| 14:37.10 | winkiller | I always find it out |
| 14:37.11 | winkiller | :) |
| 14:37.13 | kenlyric | I wish questfu zone tracking made more sense. |
| 14:37.20 | kenlyric | or perhaps, blizzard's quest grouping. |
| 14:37.29 | winkiller | but then I forget to take out the crunchy serpent of my inbox |
| 14:37.32 | winkiller | this can't be tracked |
| 14:37.40 | winkiller | and ride ogri->infernals 3x |
| 14:39.11 | kenlyric | "Yet, I still fell for it when someone emoted that I had been reported for AFK and to type /AFK Report to find out why." |
| 14:39.21 | kenlyric | The only thing dumber than falling for that is *admitting* to it. |
| 14:39.41 | Josh_Borke | i've done it |
| 14:39.47 | Josh_Borke | i was very tired at the time |
| 14:40.18 | dylanm_ | Whenever we start having queues the |
| 14:40.27 | dylanm_ | "omg /camp let's you do blah blah blah" |
| 14:40.39 | dylanm_ | s/let's/lets/ |
| 14:40.58 | dylanm_ | starts |
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| 14:48.06 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 14:48.25 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|: morning |
| 14:48.29 | Amadeo | morning viking |
| 14:49.18 | Pkekyo| | are there any plate tanking legs (of epic quality) outside 10/25mans? |
| 14:49.43 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: I'm no viking, I'm just crazy! |
| 14:50.01 | Amadeo | You should be, they're awesome |
| 14:50.31 | Pkekyo| | I can't afford the purty horned helmet tbh |
| 14:51.00 | Amadeo | A real viking would never buy a helmet, he'd just chop off the head of something and use those |
| 14:51.21 | mort | there are |
| 14:54.22 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: not alot of people around here with horns nowadays |
| 14:54.28 | Amadeo | :( |
| 14:55.16 | Pkekyo| | !points 1000 |
| 14:55.17 | Xinhuan | 1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating. |
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| 14:55.50 | Pkekyo| | !rating 1900 |
| 14:55.50 | Xinhuan | 1900 rating gives 914(5s), 804(3s) and 694(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:56.25 | Smj | !rating 2700 |
| 14:56.25 | Xinhuan | 2700 rating gives 1475(5s), 1298(3s) and 1121(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:56.25 | DreadWingKnight | !points 1500 |
| 14:58.09 | DreadWingKnight | !points 1500 |
| 14:58.10 | Xinhuan | 1500 arena points require 2963(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 14:58.35 | Pkekyo| | after losing 10 matches in a 3v3 team starting at 1630, approx what rating would you have? |
| 14:58.51 | Xinhuan | lua> 1480 |
| 14:58.52 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1480 |
| 14:58.58 | DreadWingKnight | what rating bracket did you lose to? |
| 14:59.46 | DreadWingKnight | because losing to a 2700 rating team would only drop you to about 1620 |
| 14:59.55 | DreadWingKnight | but losing to a 1400 rating would drop you like a rock |
| 15:01.51 | Pkekyo| | DreadWingKnight: similarily rated teams |
| 15:02.20 | DreadWingKnight | you'd probably drop between 14 and 20 a match then |
| 15:02.26 | Pkekyo| | just trying to figure out if it's worth it to lose 10 matches for a few hundred extra points this week or so |
| 15:03.03 | Pkekyo| | or if I should buy an arenaboost from some pewpew people |
| 15:04.20 | Pkekyo| | even though I'm broke lol >.< |
| 15:05.04 | Amadeo | how does that work? |
| 15:05.13 | Amadeo | I've heard of people buying into teams for points |
| 15:05.18 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
| 15:05.29 | Pkekyo| | you buy a temporary spot in a high-rating arenateam |
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| 15:05.40 | Pkekyo| | the people buying play three matches (and probably lose) |
| 15:05.54 | Pkekyo| | then the owners of the team play another seven matches and attempts to win as many as possible |
| 15:06.22 | Pkekyo| | then they get gold :> |
| 15:06.23 | Xinhuan | the going rate on my server is roughly 0.6s per arena point |
| 15:06.28 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r56056 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: barfader module |
| 15:06.44 | Xinhuan | people earn about 800g a week from selling 4 or 5 2v2 teams |
| 15:07.16 | Pkekyo| | yeah, it's great money, if you just take the time to pvp a bit |
| 15:07.36 | Amadeo | but season 3 will stop that, right? |
| 15:07.39 | Chompers | i try to do some arena games, it's easier to get good plate dps gear |
| 15:07.45 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: howso? |
| 15:07.50 | Amadeo | with that personal rating thing? |
| 15:07.51 | Amadeo | I dunno |
| 15:07.54 | Chompers | 1300 rating makes that difficult though :/ |
| 15:07.58 | Pkekyo| | only on weapons and shoulders, no? |
| 15:08.10 | Amadeo | I dunno how it works! |
| 15:08.45 | Hjalte | Can someone explain to me how, in Recount, when I view a specific fight, someone with a higher DPS might be lower in total damage? |
| 15:08.57 | DreadWingKnight | s3 weapons and shoulders are the only ones that require personal ratings |
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| 15:09.02 | Amadeo | I see |
| 15:09.12 | kenlyric | they did their damage in bursts? |
| 15:09.30 | Hjalte | kenlyric: But shouldnt it count DPS through the whole fight? |
| 15:09.37 | Amadeo | what's an entire set of S2 cost in points, without a weapon? :P |
| 15:10.00 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: so when you see someone in full s3 but s2 shoulders and weapon, you'll know they bought their gear :) |
| 15:10.12 | Hjalte | kenlyric: I imagine something like total damage done / time of the fight in seconds = DPS, or am I completely wrong? |
| 15:10.22 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: I wanna buy my gear ;) |
| 15:10.31 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: gl hf |
| 15:10.31 | kenlyric | doesn't everyone buy their gear? |
| 15:10.34 | DreadWingKnight | 7172 points starting s3 |
| 15:10.35 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:10.45 | Amadeo | DreadWingKnight: Thank ya |
| 15:10.58 | Lukian | Hjalte, you could take total time in combat, you could take time from when their first ability landed, etc. |
| 15:11.22 | Hjalte | Cryect, you here? |
| 15:11.22 | DreadWingKnight | 8250 for a complete s3 set |
| 15:12.00 | Amadeo | So, possibly 500 gold could get me a whole set? |
| 15:12.11 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: prolly not |
| 15:12.18 | Amadeo | :( thousands? |
| 15:12.25 | Pkekyo| | I'd say 500g/1k points |
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| 15:12.43 | Pkekyo| | so that makes 4k |
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| 15:12.45 | Pkekyo| | lols |
| 15:12.48 | Amadeo | damn, haha |
| 15:13.22 | Pkekyo| | that's the going rate at my server a tleast |
| 15:13.28 | Amadeo | I'd spend like 4k, have an almost full set of S3, and be flying around on my 60% mount :P |
| 15:13.30 | Pkekyo| | if only I could get another 1k points /shrug |
| 15:13.42 | Pkekyo| | haha yeah Amadeo |
| 15:13.49 | Pkekyo| | alot of those on my server (s2 though) |
| 15:13.59 | Ellipsis | woot, spicy hot talbuk recipe |
| 15:14.04 | Ellipsis | now I have everything but the cake :( |
| 15:14.09 | Amadeo | the cake is a lie? |
| 15:14.14 | Ellipsis | maybe it is |
| 15:14.23 | Ellipsis | are you guys making up the delicious chocolate cake recipe? |
| 15:14.37 | Amadeo | you will be baked and then there will be cake |
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| 15:15.39 | DreadWingKnight | my sister has all 6 new cookings |
| 15:16.06 | Amadeo | can you get her to cook me something? |
| 15:16.28 | DreadWingKnight | what server you on? |
| 15:16.33 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 15:16.48 | Amadeo | if you could name the worst US server possible, that's the one I'm on! |
| 15:16.54 | Ellipsis | Drenden? |
| 15:17.18 | Amadeo | is that even a server? haha |
| 15:17.28 | Ellipsis | yeah, a really bad one |
| 15:17.40 | zac | drenden is the high-latency server that a few got the ability to free-transfer to. poor people who went... |
| 15:17.50 | Ellipsis | dude, it gets worse |
| 15:17.56 | Ellipsis | I *paid* to transfer 2 chars there once |
| 15:18.02 | zac | ouch… |
| 15:18.08 | Amadeo | I'm currently playing some chars on Auchindoun, 4k character population |
| 15:18.16 | DreadWingKnight | good thing I stayed put then |
| 15:18.51 | zac | dalaran4life. and the like. drenden looked interesting, but yuck |
| 15:19.14 | Ellipsis | but by being on drenden, I got to experience the epic history of Karmia |
| 15:19.24 | Ellipsis | and for that, I can never truly say I regret it |
| 15:19.29 | sb | wtf is 'drenden'? |
| 15:19.31 | Amadeo | Everyone should probably just make chars on the highest population servers, so they get free transfers later on |
| 15:20.03 | sb | ah "Male mage of the Kirin Tor. Appeared in Day of the Dragon, Tides of Darkness and the Road to Damnation mini story." |
| 15:20.17 | Ellipsis | crappy name for a crappy realm |
| 15:20.20 | Ellipsis | shoulda known just from that |
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| 15:27.56 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
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| 15:29.12 | Pkekyo| | someone link me that arena point calculator please? |
| 15:29.25 | Pkekyo| | !points 1478 |
| 15:29.25 | Xinhuan | 1478 arena points require 2713(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 15:29.33 | Pkekyo| | !rating 1478 |
| 15:29.34 | Xinhuan | 1478 rating gives 339(5s), 298(3s) and 257(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 15:29.37 | Pkekyo| | nevermind :) |
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| 15:35.48 | Kalroth | hi Kalman! |
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| 15:56.28 | _rane | i have a simple feature request for antagonist, how can i reach the author? |
| 15:58.05 | dylanm | I |
| 15:58.08 | dylanm | would look on the forums :p |
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| 16:20.47 | Kemayo | kenlyric: In the case of that daily it's more the blizzard groupings that are tricky. I should probably special-case looking through non-zone quest categories. |
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| 16:21.51 | kenlyric | Kemayo: yeah, I know. The ones that bug me are the dungeon dailies bound to shatt. |
| 16:21.57 | kenlyric | they should be bound to the dungeons |
| 16:22.17 | kenlyric | like I'm ever going to do trial of the naaru anyway. |
| 16:22.22 | kenlyric | should just drop that shit. |
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| 16:23.56 | Kemayo | I suppose I should really just stop restricting by zone and just search all quests in every category for the name of the current zone/subzone. |
| 16:24.17 | markt_ | Q) In a duel between ArkInventory vs SanityBags - who wins? |
| 16:25.12 | Kemayo | A) Batman. |
| 16:25.18 | markt_ | Kapow! |
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| 16:26.09 | markt_ | A) Whichever you like best! |
| 16:26.32 | markt_ | tsk, pesky self-fulfilling question. |
| 16:27.28 | markt_ | anybody know if there are any addons in development dealing with the vague subject i like to call "guild vault management"? |
| 16:27.30 | Kemayo | I'm sticking with "I haven't used either in at least six months, so my opinions are irrelevant". |
| 16:27.46 | kenlyric | I kinda liked the subzone loading stuff, but it seemed to work strangely. |
| 16:28.03 | markt_ | what i'm thinking of is an addon which allows you to process deposits and withdrawals using some kind of points system |
| 16:28.22 | markt_ | if not, i guess i'll start hacking *cough* coding one |
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| 16:29.34 | markt_ | on a related matter then, does anybody know where i can read about guild vault specific API calls? wowwiki seems to fail atm |
| 16:29.39 | Kemayo | Oh, it works very consistently, at least in theory. It searches the text of the quests in the current zone for the current subzone. It's imperfect, but about as good as can be done. |
| 16:29.59 | Kemayo | markt_: Wowwiki is about as good as anywhere. Hold on, though... |
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| 16:31.08 | Kemayo | markt_: Try here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518907090&sid=1 |
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| 16:31.35 | Kemayo | It has documentation of the returns, which I don't think had made it to wowwiki when I was writing my guild bank stuff. |
| 16:31.36 | markt_ | oooh, great, ty - del.ico.us-ed :) |
| 16:32.02 | Kemayo | (Now, you might say that I should have updated wowwiki myself while this was fresh in my head. Oh well.) |
| 16:32.57 | markt_ | (I would, but figure that saying that implies that you have some kind of responsibility to do so, when such responsibility lies with everybody who uses wowwiki =]) |
| 16:33.36 | Kemayo | Pfft, I've paid my dues by documenting obscure corners of the quest leaderboard returns that no-one else will ever care about. |
| 16:33.58 | markt_ | hehehe :-D |
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| 16:34.33 | Kemayo | (It turns out that there are a great many objective categories that aren't clearly distinguished.) |
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| 16:37.23 | markt_ | ok, guild bank functions are actually in wowwiki |
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| 16:38.09 | markt_ | either they've just appeared, or i had a moment of extreme stupidity |
| 16:38.19 | markt_ | i would definitely bet on the latter =] |
| 16:39.42 | markt_ | i will attempt to more fully document some calls as i hack *cough* code |
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| 16:45.10 | Pkekyo| | jesus titty fucking christ...Steve Irvin's daughter is going for a career in hip-hop |
| 16:46.28 | RogueShadow | this si important why? |
| 16:46.34 | RogueShadow | s/si/is |
| 16:47.22 | Pkekyo| | 9 year old kid named bindi launching a hip-hop career? |
| 16:47.22 | Pkekyo| | that'll be extremely_poor_hip-hop, at best...meh |
| 16:47.48 | RogueShadow | So are most 9 year old hip hop artists |
| 16:47.54 | RogueShadow | look at all of puff's relatives |
| 16:48.11 | Pkekyo| | wha? |
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| 16:54.48 | thul_ | are there _any_ un-poor hip-hop artists? |
| 16:55.10 | Pkekyo| | yes there is |
| 16:55.25 | thul_ | like..? |
| 16:55.53 | thul_ | http://last.fm/user/thul ftw. |
| 16:56.51 | Codayus | Okay, SimCity Societies is *far* too addictive. |
| 16:56.55 | Codayus | Needs a warning label. |
| 16:56.58 | Pkekyo| | Sirius, Hajoken, Makaber, Ikonet, Rovers, Bad Spit, Morex, Nordlys, Jay, Isolasjon & Scarecrow, Dårlig Hårdag, Fremmed Rase, RSP, |
| 16:57.07 | Pkekyo| | you wouldn't know either of them though, would you, thul_? |
| 16:57.08 | thul_ | not feeling it Pkekyo| |
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| 16:57.17 | thul_ | well, I've worked at concerts with a few of them |
| 16:57.22 | thul_ | and no: I'm not feeling it |
| 16:57.33 | Pkekyo| | 'feeling it'? |
| 16:57.35 | thul_ | in any possible way. |
| 16:57.48 | Pkekyo| | which ones? |
| 16:57.53 | Tinyboom | mr "jesus titty fucking christ" Pkekyo|: where you read that? |
| 16:58.01 | Tinyboom | :) |
| 16:58.07 | kontroll | Pkekyo| == .no? :P |
| 16:58.07 | Pkekyo| | Tinyboom: read what? |
| 16:58.09 | thul_ | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=feeling+it |
| 16:58.11 | Tinyboom | bindi |
| 16:58.19 | Pkekyo| | kontroll: as always |
| 16:58.25 | thul_ | Pkekyo|: fremmed rase, dårlig hårdag, makaber og nordlys hvis jeg husker riktig |
| 16:58.27 | Pkekyo| | Tinyboom: norwegian tabloids |
| 16:58.29 | kontroll | I'm new here. |
| 16:58.51 | thul_ | kontroll: too bad. |
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| 16:58.58 | kontroll | I was gonna mention a danish group, but had to check the names twice before I decided not to. ;) |
| 16:58.59 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo|: and I'm still norwegian:p vg? |
| 16:58.59 | Pkekyo| | Fremmed Rase - Råne is just awesome...theyr other stuff is meh though...Dårlig Hårdag's just fun... Makaber is a great guy, Nordlys have done alot of good songs tbh |
| 16:59.27 | Pkekyo| | Tinyboom: ah, right you are.... DB - Magasinet, if memory serves |
| 16:59.35 | Xyphor | How can I solve "Unrecognized line ending style" when uploading over SVN? |
| 16:59.58 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo|: thanks |
| 16:59.59 | durcyn | Xyphor: set svn:eol-style property. |
| 17:00.07 | thul_ | I got to stop working gigs i know I'll dislike. |
| 17:00.22 | Pkekyo| | heheh |
| 17:00.28 | Pkekyo| | you don't like Makaber? |
| 17:01.20 | thul | not the things I've heard. But then again, I like dream theater, other pompeous rock and things like imogen heap. |
| 17:01.24 | thul | I'm not their target audience i guess. |
| 17:01.37 | Xyphor | durcyn: to native? |
| 17:01.49 | thul | and i just.. don't like rap. |
| 17:01.50 | Xyphor | (xml file) |
| 17:02.08 | Silviu- | Strange carto error |
| 17:02.08 | thul | mostly beacause I have worked with people like janP (or what the hell he and his mate calls themselves) |
| 17:02.09 | Silviu- | [2007/11/26 19:01:12-398-x1]: Cartographer_Notes-2.0\Notes.lua:3899: Trying to iterate through notes in an unknown zone: "Quel'thalas" --- |
| 17:03.08 | Pkekyo| | thul: meh, that might've got something to do with it then ;> I like a wide variety of music...makaber's stuff is...it's fun, thought through.... he's more a great guy than he is a great rapper though |
| 17:04.07 | Pkekyo| | did you here the demo he did with Hajoken? |
| 17:05.07 | Industrial | ding 64 lulz viper aspect |
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| 17:05.59 | Pkekyo| | !points 1700 |
| 17:05.59 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 17:06.02 | Pkekyo| | !rating 1700 |
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| 17:06.13 | thul | Pkekyo|: nopes |
| 17:06.22 | thul | !points 500 |
| 17:06.23 | Xinhuan | 500 arena points require 1626(5s), 1674(3s) and 1734(2s) team rating. |
| 17:06.30 | durcyn | Xyphor: native is fine, it just has to be set. |
| 17:06.33 | Xyphor | durcyn: Thanks, found my typo there |
| 17:06.46 | thul | i want a good 5v5 team :-P |
| 17:06.50 | Pkekyo| | thul: it was dubbed 'Negativitetsteorien' :) hilarious tbh |
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| 17:07.47 | thul | Pkekyo|: hehe |
| 17:08.06 | thul | the thing I dislike about rappers, other than that they rap, is that they tend to do a very populist and tabloid outlook on politics :-( |
| 17:08.32 | Pkekyo| | "Hej, och välkomna skall ni vära, tills Anonyme Negativitetsteorister!" |
| 17:08.48 | thul | hehe |
| 17:08.56 | thul | my neighbour's blueberry pie just saved my day |
| 17:09.08 | Pkekyo| | heh...what a band/group/rapper does on his own free time I couldn't care less about, as long as they're not complete dongjobs |
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| 17:09.15 | Pkekyo| | there's pie in norway? share! |
| 17:09.19 | thul | well, the lyrics.. the lyrics :-( |
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| 17:09.34 | thul | I like political lyrics, it isn't that, I just like them to be intelligent :-P |
| 17:09.41 | thul | Pkekyo|: mhm, french, homemade blueberry pie :-D |
| 17:09.57 | Pkekyo| | meh |
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| 17:10.18 | Pkekyo| | ofcourse, just spewing out "bush sucks" in every second song is absoute bollocks |
| 17:10.31 | durcyn | you never know, he might actually give good head |
| 17:10.34 | durcyn | nm |
| 17:10.39 | thul | haha |
| 17:10.40 | thul | well, yeah |
| 17:10.40 | Pkekyo| | rofl durcyn |
| 17:10.41 | thul | agreed. |
| 17:10.50 | Pkekyo| | but then again, that's not the kind of rap I listen to :) |
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| 17:11.43 | thul | http://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/cribcaged.txt <- that's lyrics for me :-P |
| 17:11.51 | thul | even though I'm like superblue politica. |
| 17:11.52 | thul | l |
| 17:11.53 | thul | y |
| 17:12.09 | thul | quite banal, but I like it |
| 17:12.17 | Pkekyo| | 90% of the people attempting to make a serious political statement in their songs just fails massively anyways...I love the fun stuff... stuff with lyrics like "på fæst bli æ sugd av bærta så e fjorten år. ho e mitt søskenbarn, men æ har fødselsdag, og hær på landet e itj incest verdens største sak" ^^ |
| 17:12.33 | thul | hehe |
| 17:12.37 | thul | well, that reminds me of home. |
| 17:12.43 | thul | since I come from a village in trøndelag. |
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| 17:12.59 | baer_ | moin. |
| 17:13.05 | thul | afternoon :-) |
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| 17:13.09 | thul | or, wie gethz. |
| 17:13.18 | baer_ | :) |
| 17:13.34 | thul | I want to learn arabic, russian and freshen up my german |
| 17:13.42 | Pkekyo| | problem with rap that's supposed to be funny, you have to blow everything so much out of proportion, noone will ever consider you as serious ever again :) |
| 17:13.49 | thul | heh |
| 17:13.50 | baer_ | no prob, the only valid answer to "moin" is "moin". :) |
| 17:13.59 | Pkekyo| | thul: which one, may I ask? |
| 17:14.08 | thul | which one what? :-P |
| 17:14.10 | thul | Oppdal |
| 17:14.14 | thul | if you meant the village. |
| 17:14.26 | baer_ | thul: http://kamelopedia.mormo.org/index.php/Moin |
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| 17:14.41 | Pkekyo| | oppdal's full of win and awesome tbh...if you can avoid the stuck-up cityfolk owners of those hillside 'castles' :> |
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| 17:15.05 | thul | hehe, well, try working the door during easter.. and NOT have problems with stuck-up bærumkids. |
| 17:15.18 | thul | seriously, those folks wear out my cuffs more in one week than I do one year in oslo :-P |
| 17:15.26 | Pkekyo| | I wouldn't have a problem with them...I would be their biggest problem :) |
| 17:15.31 | thul | hehe |
| 17:15.38 | thul | well, they kind of have problems realizing their own limits. |
| 17:15.52 | thul | I'm a fat, tall, strong guy, they are weak, puny and drunk. |
| 17:15.57 | thul | and I'm at work :-P |
| 17:16.05 | thul | but well, other than that, I love Oppdal. |
| 17:16.10 | thul | cruising powder snow on a cold and sunny day :-D |
| 17:16.27 | thul | walking in the mountains on a dry and warm summer day.. *sigh* |
| 17:16.31 | thul | oslo is just so grey, flat and boring. |
| 17:16.31 | Pkekyo| | it's more that they have problems realizing other people's limits...when they get clocked in the eye by a bouncer, they should've seen it coming a LONG time ago |
| 17:16.46 | thul | Pkekyo|: they should have.. but they never do. |
| 17:16.49 | Pkekyo| | was planning to move to oslo, but don't think I can be arsed |
| 17:16.59 | thul | well, I could choose between bergen, tromsø and oslo |
| 17:17.00 | thul | so oslo it was. |
| 17:17.03 | Pkekyo| | I kinda like living in a city where I don't get stabbed all the time... |
| 17:17.20 | thul | haha |
| 17:17.25 | Pkekyo| | atleast, if I get stabbed here, the purpotrator is someone I know and I'll just kill them the next week |
| 17:17.32 | thul | I have only been attempted stabbed once in oslo :-P |
| 17:17.38 | thul | and that was one of the said bærumsramp :-D |
| 17:17.43 | fridgid | taint is gay....... |
| 17:17.43 | thul | and i had a vest and stuff on (at work) |
| 17:17.51 | thul | so that was more fun/sad than scary |
| 17:18.18 | Pkekyo| | <--- I'm attracting random acts of violence like a 100m3 electromagnet attracts metal... |
| 17:18.23 | thul | hahaha |
| 17:18.26 | thul | just like a mate of mine |
| 17:18.33 | thul | I've never been in a fight outside the mat or work. |
| 17:18.36 | thul | I like it like that :-P |
| 17:18.42 | thul | i think i look grey and anonymous enough :-P |
| 17:19.26 | Pkekyo| | was out a night last fall vacations (still a student).... within two minutes if getting to the town square, I got attacked by ten brawlers...I didn't even get enough time to insult either of them first |
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| 17:20.21 | thul | haha |
| 17:20.23 | thul | fun :-P |
| 17:20.28 | Pkekyo| | not really |
| 17:20.44 | Pkekyo| | well, was kinda fun that they couldn't get me down on the ground within 10minutes |
| 17:20.50 | Pkekyo| | (little, skinny guy) |
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| 17:21.05 | thul | heh |
| 17:21.34 | Pkekyo| | wasn't as fun when I woke up the next morning though :) |
| 17:21.50 | Pkekyo| | atleast they didn't manage to make any holes in me |
| 17:22.12 | Pkekyo| | the day I get stabbed is the day I'm gonna shoot someone in the face with a shotgun :) |
| 17:23.01 | Pkekyo| | is saying "fuck" truly a bannable offense in wow? |
| 17:23.44 | Pkekyo| | some guy in my server is getting mass-reported |
| 17:23.47 | Pkekyo| | also: what's with the norwegian channel takeover? |
| 17:23.55 | Pkekyo| | fridgid: why is taint gay? |
| 17:24.14 | fridgid | cuz when you can't find the cause, its annoying |
| 17:25.10 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 17:25.14 | Pkekyo| | isn't that what the taintlog is for? or am I missing something? |
| 17:25.41 | sag_ich_nicht | taint.log misses things, which is what fridgid is complaining about, but instead of doing something about it, he crys |
| 17:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | now |
| 17:25.44 | fridgid | yeah i've just been having trouble nailing a few things out |
| 17:25.45 | sag_ich_nicht | go talk to Xinhuan |
| 17:25.55 | fridgid | what sag_ich_nicht said |
| 17:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | also, lern2taintlog 2 |
| 17:26.03 | fridgid | its my mod and i'll cry if i want to |
| 17:26.08 | sag_ich_nicht | if you aren't using it already |
| 17:26.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'll flame when i want |
| 17:26.17 | fridgid | how else would i know about it? |
| 17:26.25 | sag_ich_nicht | fridgid taintlog 1 |
| 17:26.26 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 17:26.32 | fridgid | that IS the taintlog? |
| 17:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | taintlog 2 tends to grow quite big |
| 17:26.41 | sag_ich_nicht | no there are 2 options |
| 17:26.45 | fridgid | oh |
| 17:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | 1 and 2 |
| 17:26.48 | fridgid | <----understands now |
| 17:26.50 | sag_ich_nicht | 1 is small |
| 17:26.53 | sag_ich_nicht | 2 is quite extensive |
| 17:26.59 | fridgid | ahhh |
| 17:27.01 | fridgid | intresting |
| 17:27.20 | Pkekyo| | " Oh shit, my nipple?s on fire. She?s poured lighter fluid onto my chest and my tit?s gone up in flames like some dessert in a posh restaurant." O.o |
| 17:27.47 | Pkekyo| | there's some insane fuckers in this world |
| 17:28.03 | fridgid | most of them are 16 and emo |
| 17:28.11 | Pkekyo| | lighting a guy's chest on fire, I can get...somewhat...but writing a book about it afterwards? |
| 17:28.21 | fridgid | lol |
| 17:28.36 | fridgid | "what a book, its gets you laid.....even a bad book" |
| 17:28.41 | fridgid | write* |
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| 17:28.45 | thul | hmm |
| 17:29.03 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
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| 17:31.38 | Pkekyo| | yay, bigwigs update |
| 17:31.42 | Pkekyo| | meh, just localization :< |
| 17:31.58 | thul | I really don't know if I like ZA yet |
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| 17:32.53 | Pkekyo| | it's good to have another 10man to go to |
| 17:33.05 | Pkekyo| | boss scaling is a bit hard though |
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| 17:33.39 | thul | i need more +hit |
| 17:33.42 | thul | and better mh/oh |
| 17:34.56 | thul | I'll work on both wednesday :-P |
| 17:34.57 | Pkekyo| | everyone needs more +hit |
| 17:35.09 | Pkekyo| | the more +hit I get, the more misses I notice >.< |
| 17:35.13 | Kalroth | Pkekyo|: It seems fairly good, we got a guild that only killed Maulgar/Gruul and Lurker and they cleared ZA |
| 17:35.39 | Kalroth | on my server, that is |
| 17:36.06 | thul | we haeven't killed gruul yet but have kara on farm (mostly :-P ) |
| 17:36.08 | Pkekyo| | well, my guild can't clear it, so meh! :p |
| 17:36.10 | thul | but ZA seems to be hard |
| 17:36.26 | Pkekyo| | if you're coming straight out of kara, ZA will be hard |
| 17:36.34 | thul | Pkekyo|: last week I had 140 hit rating :-P |
| 17:37.46 | Pkekyo| | I've got 171 hit rating now, and I see more misses than ever |
| 17:38.05 | thul | I got 190 now, headed for 230 |
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| 17:39.53 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.23 | thul | hahahahaha |
| 17:40.27 | thul | you need to hit cap.. :-P |
| 17:40.30 | thul | then worry about ap and crit :-D |
| 17:41.10 | Pkekyo| | hit capping only your yellow attacks is a bloody joke |
| 17:41.21 | Pkekyo| | you won't ever have rage for them if all your white hits miss anyways |
| 17:41.32 | Pkekyo| | thul: you fury btw? |
| 17:41.49 | thul | Pkekyo|: rogue :-) |
| 17:41.57 | Health | Did US season 3 start? |
| 17:42.05 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve |
| 17:42.22 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 17:42.36 | Pkekyo| | <--- 171 hit on a protwarr (DW gear though) |
| 17:42.38 | Pkekyo| | geif +hit talent |
| 17:42.50 | Pkekyo| | Health: no, the dongjobs have to celebrate their bloody fucking thanksgiving first |
| 17:42.55 | thul | ah, ok |
| 17:43.13 | Pkekyo| | guess I'd be close to capping it with the +hit talent |
| 17:43.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:39] <Pkekyo|> /spit at the people screaming on the top of their longues that you only need 95 hit rating EVER <--true, if you're not dual wielding |
| 17:43.47 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: this is in referance to DW fury speccs |
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| 17:43.56 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 17:44.00 | sag_ich_nicht | noobs |
| 17:44.05 | thul | well, I'm going for 230 hit rating :-P |
| 17:44.33 | Pkekyo| | a few weeks ago eu warrior forums were filled with "you will never EVER need more than 95 +hit because blablabla blabedibla blabedi bla bla bla" |
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| 17:45.08 | lolinternet | more like 442 hitrating |
| 17:45.25 | Pkekyo| | as if that's achievable at all :) |
| 17:45.52 | thul | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t17195-pve_pvp_transfers_long_overdue/ <- agreed |
| 17:45.57 | Pkekyo| | well, maybe, if you gimp yourself down to 7 AP and less crit chance than a prot warrior WITHOUT cruelty talent |
| 17:46.30 | Pkekyo| | meh, I don't like EJ.... |
| 17:46.38 | Pkekyo| | I find them to be...err...elitist jerks... |
| 17:47.21 | Pkekyo| | go figure |
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| 17:47.52 | Kalroth | EJ wins! They're jerks, but not really |
| 17:48.12 | durcyn | all i know is that it hurts to be in the same battlegroup as them sometimes ;) |
| 17:48.21 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56064 10PowerDisplay/: PowerDisplay: Externals included |
| 17:49.03 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 17:49.18 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, they are good.. ;-) |
| 17:49.23 | thul | at theorycrafting |
| 17:49.28 | thul | anyhow, I'm considering lvling a warrior |
| 17:49.33 | thul | just don't know if it is worht the hassle. |
| 17:49.35 | thul | and dunno what race. |
| 17:50.28 | Pkekyo| | don't |
| 17:50.33 | Pkekyo| | but if you do; go tauren |
| 17:50.40 | Aeyan | Warrior is my current project |
| 17:51.18 | Pkekyo| | nothing's like a huge pissed off, iron clad bull running towards you with a 15 feet two-handed sword raised above his head ready to smack you down |
| 17:51.19 | Pkekyo| | <3 |
| 17:52.25 | Wogroipl | and a 10% hp bonus is also very nicea as warrior |
| 17:52.27 | Aeyan | All of the Horde racials are pretty bitchin' |
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| 17:53.16 | Pkekyo| | if you rolla gnome warrior I'm gonna personally track you down and slap you silly |
| 17:53.18 | Wogroipl | if you are into pvp you might consider an undead warrior, WotF is ace |
| 17:53.22 | Aeyan | Hehe |
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| 17:53.42 | thul | well, I was thinking alliance.. but maybe I'll do a horde char again |
| 17:53.54 | thul | well, I'm planning big, mean smacking machine in pvp |
| 17:53.57 | thul | or pve-dps |
| 17:54.00 | Pkekyo| | tauren warrior > all |
| 17:54.08 | Wogroipl | you can make alliance characters? |
| 17:54.15 | Wogroipl | I never thought of that :P |
| 17:54.17 | Aeyan | Sadly, gnome racial is the best the Alliance has to offer |
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| 17:54.37 | Pkekyo| | you can...bu you have to be a fucktard to qualify [stops insulting half the bloody channel] |
| 17:54.48 | Wogroipl | haha |
| 17:54.50 | Aeyan | Night elf gives a very situational advantage for pvp and humans are just meh |
| 17:55.05 | thul | well, my guild is alliance :-P |
| 17:55.08 | thul | and i like my human paladin and rogue :-P |
| 17:55.12 | thul | +swords <3 |
| 17:55.15 | sag_ich_nicht | draenei warrior imho |
| 17:55.17 | thul | and +rep ofc. |
| 17:55.18 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.22 | thul | but yeah.. dranei healing stuff is nice |
| 17:55.27 | thul | and the partybuff too.. |
| 17:55.51 | Pkekyo| | the draenei healing becomes utter poop compared to other racials at l70 though |
| 17:55.59 | erb | im leveling a draenie mage |
| 17:56.02 | erb | the hot is good stuff |
| 17:56.27 | mort | the hot starts to suck at 70 |
| 17:56.43 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you play any manaclass except for hunter |
| 17:56.50 | sag_ich_nicht | because it scales with spelldmg |
| 17:56.51 | sag_ich_nicht | zomg |
| 17:56.59 | thul | seriously? |
| 17:57.00 | thul | that is bugged:( |
| 17:57.08 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:57.12 | sag_ich_nicht | why |
| 17:57.56 | thul | healer classes need it less than warriors do :-P |
| 17:57.59 | thul | but how much do it do at 70? |
| 17:58.24 | Pkekyo| | pretty close to nothing at all |
| 17:58.26 | sag_ich_nicht | 1085 |
| 17:58.33 | sag_ich_nicht | that's not nothing, cool |
| 17:58.34 | sag_ich_nicht | *fool |
| 17:58.36 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 17:58.52 | thul | hmm, well, it is a bit |
| 17:58.55 | Pkekyo| | no, only close to |
| 17:58.56 | thul | about a hemo hit. |
| 17:59.00 | thul | s/hit/crit |
| 17:59.05 | Pkekyo| | weaker than commanding shout |
| 17:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ |
| 17:59.20 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 17:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | it scales 100% with spelldmg |
| 17:59.25 | ramoz | for me cannibalize ticks for that... |
| 17:59.30 | ramoz | (ud warlock) |
| 17:59.41 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:59.43 | sag_ich_nicht | +heal actually |
| 17:59.44 | sag_ich_nicht | not spelldmg |
| 17:59.50 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: hmm.. so if you got 1000 +heal, you get 2000? |
| 17:59.54 | thul | thats unfair :-P |
| 18:00.00 | thul | the stomp and +hp is nice for tauren though |
| 18:00.02 | NeoTron | so a pair of pally tank boots dropped of Naj'entus last night. Funny thing is, they would have been an upgrade for our warrior MT as well |
| 18:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, and no, it's not unfair :P |
| 18:00.04 | Pkekyo| | warriors (hopefully) don't have all that much +healing |
| 18:00.10 | NeoTron | but he let the pally tank get them first |
| 18:00.53 | NeoTron | we've gotten essentially no tank gear from tier 6 so far |
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| 18:01.11 | thul | hmm, any rogues here btw? |
| 18:01.30 | Aeyan | Former rogue =P |
| 18:01.43 | Pkekyo| | <--- got a retired rogue alt |
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| 18:03.05 | thul | what is druid shred like in rogue terms? evisc? |
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| 18:03.37 | Pkekyo| | tbh.... |
| 18:03.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Shred the target, causing 225% damage plus additional damage per rank to the target. Must be behind the target. Awards 1 combo point. |
| 18:03.47 | mort | backstab |
| 18:03.48 | thul | backstab then maybe |
| 18:03.49 | Pkekyo| | rogues are just gay fury warriors with two toothpicks and a leatherfetish |
| 18:03.49 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 18:03.49 | sag_ich_nicht | # Cost: 60 Energy |
| 18:04.16 | thul | my main question was another one though: maces or swords... swords are superior dps, maces have stun.. i do mostly arenas, 10-man raids and bgs... |
| 18:04.20 | thul | hard :-P |
| 18:04.23 | Spiffy | is there anything better than NECB for tracking enemy cooldowns? I really only need something to show me cooldowns on counterspell/kicks/ etc. |
| 18:04.31 | thul | I like necb |
| 18:04.46 | Pkekyo| | I'd go for the swords tbh |
| 18:04.51 | Pkekyo| | Spiffy: I think there's some warlock-based addon that does that |
| 18:05.09 | Pkekyo| | necb is a bloody memory sink |
| 18:05.44 | thul | I hate tav lag :-( |
| 18:05.53 | thul | well, i like necb :-P looks sexy :-D |
| 18:06.23 | Pkekyo| | it looks poop |
| 18:06.24 | Pkekyo| | and it's a memory sink |
| 18:06.24 | Pkekyo| | and it smells poop too |
| 18:06.46 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it's not, maybe you should delete the mp3s in the folder |
| 18:06.47 | sag_ich_nicht | noob |
| 18:06.57 | Pkekyo| | mp3s? |
| 18:06.58 | sag_ich_nicht | also, maybe you should stop using an version ages old |
| 18:07.00 | Pkekyo| | wha? |
| 18:07.08 | NeoTron | DoTimer, if it even tracks that, is a "warlock addon"... but it's not exactly a light addon |
| 18:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | *a version |
| 18:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 18:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 18:07.17 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: I stopped using necb half a millenia ago anyways |
| 18:07.35 | thul | my necb is quite light :-P |
| 18:07.42 | sag_ich_nicht | see. that's before he fixed his code to stop being a memory hogging whore |
| 18:07.44 | sag_ich_nicht | which he did |
| 18:07.50 | Aeyan | I prefer swords, because mace stuns can always help or just hurt |
| 18:07.54 | Aeyan | Sword spec is always good |
| 18:08.13 | thul | well, I guess I'll go swords:p |
| 18:08.21 | thul | they look sexy too :-D |
| 18:08.27 | Aeyan | Having an errant mace proc ruin a stunlock sucks, hehe |
| 18:08.28 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: well, don't need it anymore either way :) |
| 18:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 18:09.27 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB 9[Blackened Defias Gloves] PST |
| 18:09.47 | Aeyan | I hate you. |
| 18:09.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 18:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you tried to click it |
| 18:09.55 | sag_ich_nicht | addict. |
| 18:10.08 | Aeyan | Hehe |
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| 18:13.47 | thul | maybe an undead warrior |
| 18:14.51 | Aeyan | thul, one other thing though - a combat rogue with a drakefist hammer is a beautiful thing though =P |
| 18:15.07 | Aeyan | Sum bitch |
| 18:15.16 | thul | wwheh |
| 18:15.19 | Aeyan | I'm repeating words like crazy today |
| 18:15.19 | thul | well, 'm hemo :-P |
| 18:15.21 | thul | I'm hemo :-P |
| 18:15.40 | Aeyan | Too early in the day to proofread, I guess |
| 18:17.23 | thul | haha |
| 18:17.27 | thul | my prefered warrior name was free |
| 18:17.28 | thul | yehaw |
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| 18:18.23 | Pkekyo| | thul: forget warrior tanks in heroics if you go mace specc.... |
| 18:18.46 | thul | hehe, I'll go swords:P |
| 18:18.50 | thul | my new warrior: idavoll |
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| 18:19.00 | Aeyan | Any of the warrior spec's are pretty good |
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| 18:19.13 | Pkekyo| | Aeyan: he's a rogue |
| 18:19.31 | Aeyan | Who just made a warrior |
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| 18:19.47 | Pkekyo| | well, the rogue weapons pecc was what we've been talking aobut |
| 18:20.03 | Aeyan | Yeah, and I supported swords for rogue |
| 18:20.17 | thul | :-D |
| 18:20.20 | thul | swords I'll go |
| 18:20.22 | Pkekyo| | I've kicked quite a few idiot macespecc rogues from groups for stunlocking mobs even before I can reach them, proceeding to pull another pack of mobs and be a complete arsehat |
| 18:20.23 | thul | s1 oh and mh |
| 18:20.38 | Pkekyo| | I prefer swordspecc on warriors too tbh...just more fun :) |
| 18:20.54 | Aeyan | My warrior is sword spec |
| 18:21.04 | Aeyan | Was personal preference really, but it's got some perks |
| 18:21.13 | Pkekyo| | mine is too, when I'm not a protnab :> |
| 18:21.50 | Aeyan | Doesn't get assed by resilience, and hey - those extra swings can crit too |
| 18:21.50 | Pkekyo| | kinda rough being the guild maintank and doing arenas in addition |
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| 18:22.02 | Aeyan | Expensive, I imagine |
| 18:22.05 | thul | lvling = 2h until you can dw, right? |
| 18:22.06 | Pkekyo| | atleast with limited playing time |
| 18:22.07 | thul | or? |
| 18:22.11 | Pkekyo| | yes |
| 18:22.13 | thul | I have never leveled warrior |
| 18:22.37 | Pkekyo| | my tanking gear at 0% durability gives me approx a 90g repairbill |
| 18:22.51 | Aeyan | Depends on your spec, I guess, thul |
| 18:22.54 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 18:22.57 | thul | but what is best for lvling? |
| 18:23.07 | Pkekyo| | go 2h up to level 20 |
| 18:23.23 | thul | k |
| 18:23.34 | Pkekyo| | specc cruelty then imp. demo shout or unbridled wrath (personal preferance I guess) |
| 18:23.44 | Pkekyo| | then you pop two onehanders and start working on OH specc |
| 18:24.04 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 18:24.09 | Aeyan | Mornin' |
| 18:24.16 | Pkekyo| | morning Kaelten |
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| 18:24.37 | Pkekyo| | was considering to bother you with those bloody css errors again, but can't be arsed :p |
| 18:25.28 | thul | hehe |
| 18:25.51 | JoshBorke | hm, i need a raiding shadow priests opinion |
| 18:26.13 | Kaelten | Pkekyo|: :P |
| 18:26.32 | Kaelten | bah update brb |
| 18:30.03 | Pkekyo| | sigh...sleezeballs get sleezier for every year that pass |
| 18:30.18 | thul | hhmm |
| 18:30.19 | thul | ok? |
| 18:30.44 | Pkekyo| | you work doors at clubs or whatev, didn't you? |
| 18:30.48 | thul | mhm |
| 18:30.54 | thul | i just dislike human beings in general |
| 18:30.58 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 18:31.15 | Pkekyo| | I'm talking about the blærum-style sleezebags |
| 18:31.18 | thul | hehe |
| 18:31.21 | thul | those are... just stupid. |
| 18:31.23 | Pkekyo| | they're spreading like a blanket of snow across the country |
| 18:31.33 | Pkekyo| | and I wanna shoot each and every single one of them in the face |
| 18:31.37 | Pkekyo| | with a nuclear bomb |
| 18:31.56 | thul | how much does heroic strike cost/hit at 70 with a decent 2h? |
| 18:32.10 | Pkekyo| | 1.5-2k crits maybe |
| 18:32.25 | Pkekyo| | it won't be your main damagedealing attack |
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| 18:32.43 | Ozguli | heroic strike shouldn't be used on lvl 70? |
| 18:32.48 | thul | ok |
| 18:32.51 | thul | I wouldn't know :-P |
| 18:32.55 | Pkekyo| | rank 11: meelee damage + 208 damage |
| 18:33.00 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: just as a ragedump imo |
| 18:33.05 | thul | just noticed that you can spam 2-3-4 of them quite fast:P |
| 18:33.07 | thul | that must be fun in pvp? |
| 18:33.08 | Pkekyo| | if you're constantly on 50-60 rage, sure... |
| 18:33.27 | Pkekyo| | thul: you get zerker stance on level 30, whirlwind and MS/BT will be following soon after |
| 18:33.33 | Pkekyo| | I hardly ever use heroic strikes |
| 18:33.35 | thul | ok |
| 18:33.38 | Ozguli | I tried tanking on friend's acc and ended spamming shield slam, revenge, devastation... and shield block |
| 18:33.48 | thul | i tanked as pala the other day |
| 18:33.49 | Ozguli | whatever I felt like spamming o.O |
| 18:33.53 | Pkekyo| | well, I use heroic strikes when well stacked on rage and devastate spamming |
| 18:33.53 | thul | only BF, but still :-P |
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| 18:34.48 | Pkekyo| | on bosses that hit like a fucking truck, I just keep it up all the time, but in between, I spam shield slam --> shield block --> revenge --> devastate, rinse and repeat |
| 18:35.11 | Pkekyo| | oy Kaelten: did you ever do something about those css errors, or am I bitching in vain? :p |
| 18:35.26 | Pkekyo| | I love paladin tanks in 5mans<3 |
| 18:35.28 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 18:35.31 | Kaelten | I think I lost them? |
| 18:36.01 | Pkekyo| | well, I get a fresh list of css errors every time I go to files.wowace.com anyways :p |
| 18:36.10 | Pkekyo| | dunno if it's the same ones though |
| 18:37.46 | Pkekyo| | want a list? |
| 18:40.55 | Kaelten | sure |
| 18:41.20 | Pkekyo| | yay, after I registered my new nick with a password I can actually remember, I can send PMs ^^ |
| 18:41.27 | Pkekyo| | (sent you a pm btw) |
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| 18:41.59 | thul | do anyone use anything other than sct/sctd btw? |
| 18:42.03 | Ozguli | I just whined in some channel, was it #freenode and got my pw resetted |
| 18:42.09 | Spiffy | anyone have an issue with NECB where none of the cooldown bars are showing up? |
| 18:42.10 | Pkekyo| | <--- uses Parrot, thul :) |
| 18:42.16 | kergoth | i use MSBT 5.0 |
| 18:42.24 | thul | hmm, why? |
| 18:42.29 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: I just added a | behind my nick and reregistered :) |
| 18:42.30 | thul | (and no, not trolling, actually wondering:P) |
| 18:42.49 | Pkekyo| | because it's alot more configurable, and I found sct to be a bloody memorysink :p |
| 18:42.59 | Pkekyo| | (me and my memory sinks... /shrug) |
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| 18:43.27 | Nefarion | anyone here know anything about using vertical statusbars? |
| 18:43.46 | Aeyan | I use Parrot because I got obsessive over exactly what I wanted reported, where, etc etc |
| 18:44.10 | Pkekyo| | Nefarion: define statusbars? |
| 18:44.13 | Nefarion | i'm having a problem. when i use setvalue, it takes chunks from the bottom of the bar rather than the top, so the bar appears to lose its bottom and fall down rather than lose its top. |
| 18:44.15 | Nefarion | the frame type |
| 18:44.18 | Pkekyo| | yeah, what Aeyan said too! |
| 18:44.27 | Nefarion | using SetOrientation("VERTICAL") |
| 18:44.37 | Pkekyo| | can't help you on that, sorry |
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| 18:45.10 | Pkekyo| | meh, I sod about with editing other people's addons at random to fit my needs that I ought to learn lua soon :p |
| 18:45.15 | thul | I just want damage on one side, incoming damage on the other side, energy/rage gains over my head. |
| 18:45.25 | Pkekyo| | parrot will give you that |
| 18:45.32 | Pkekyo| | and alot more, if you wish :) |
| 18:45.44 | thul | well, what is lightest: msbt or parrot? :-P |
| 18:45.46 | Pkekyo| | and iirc, sct started coming with some font that made me want to stab the author in the face... |
| 18:45.50 | thul | hehe |
| 18:45.56 | thul | i changed the font:P |
| 18:45.59 | thul | but I'll check out parot |
| 18:45.59 | Aeyan | MSBT is much easier to set up |
| 18:46.07 | Aeyan | But Parrot lets you do more, if you want to |
| 18:46.20 | Nefarion | msbt is much easier to setup, and is pretty light |
| 18:46.33 | Pkekyo| | yeah, I absolutely loved the possibilities of parrot...until rock hit us :< |
| 18:46.53 | thul | rock? |
| 18:47.12 | Pkekyo| | ckknight (author of amongst other addons, Parrot) made his own addon framework |
| 18:47.26 | Nefarion | a huge boulder fell off a mountain and now like half the developers are dead |
| 18:47.27 | Pkekyo| | with a config frame that makes me want to stab HIM in the face :p |
| 18:47.27 | kergoth | msbt is almost as configurable as parrot, making new scroll areas and all, but it has a lot less animation styles :| parrot has some sexy ones |
| 18:47.44 | Pkekyo| | agreed kergoth |
| 18:47.46 | [Ammo] | kergoth: msbt has a fairly easy API to add extras |
| 18:47.49 | [Ammo] | kergoth: so gogogo |
| 18:47.55 | Nefarion | lol |
| 18:47.56 | kergoth | true |
| 18:47.59 | kergoth | but i'm lazy |
| 18:47.59 | Pkekyo| | I think ck implemented all the geometrical shapes there is :p |
| 18:48.19 | Pkekyo| | is 'geometrical' even a word in english btw? |
| 18:48.29 | Aeyan | Totally is |
| 18:48.29 | Kemayo | Yup. |
| 18:48.41 | Wogroipl | it sounds English :) |
| 18:48.49 | Pkekyo| | does it even remotely have anything to do with shapes of things? |
| 18:48.54 | Kemayo | Yup. |
| 18:48.54 | thul | this AddOn checks for the death of the player or friendly characters and on seeing one it provides a random quote from Monty Pythons Dead Parrot sketch. |
| 18:48.57 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: I just englishified a norwegian word :p |
| 18:48.57 | thul | wtf? :-P |
| 18:48.59 | thul | *searches again* |
| 18:49.17 | Pkekyo| | thul: dear lord don't get that one |
| 18:49.54 | Pkekyo| | http://files.wowace.com/Parrot/Parrot-r54792.5.zip <---- latest parrot download link, thekip |
| 18:49.59 | thul | haha |
| 18:50.01 | Pkekyo| | thul*, even...tab completion ftw |
| 18:50.05 | thul | thanks |
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| 18:50.12 | Wogroipl | could be funny with a 200 yard log range and teh quotes in /yell |
| 18:50.14 | Pkekyo| | sloppy tab completion is even better |
| 18:50.16 | Kemayo | I think it's more that you used a word which both English and Norwegian obtained from greek roots. |
| 18:50.32 | Gnarfoz | Parrot.zip will be just as "latest" and you can even bookmark it, thul |
| 18:50.36 | Spiffy | are there any alternatives at all to NECB for enemy cooldowns? |
| 18:50.48 | Pkekyo| | Kemayo: quite possible...I would guess latin rather than greek though....but then again, I'm clueless |
| 18:51.03 | Wogroipl | it' comes from greek |
| 18:51.12 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: or he can just get wau? :) |
| 18:51.15 | Kemayo | Pkekyo|: Geometry is greek -- "geo" = earth, "metria" = knowledge. |
| 18:51.22 | thul | nice :-) |
| 18:51.27 | Kemayo | sorry, metria is measure. |
| 18:51.36 | Pkekyo| | what the flying fuck does the earth have to do with triangles and cubes? |
| 18:51.47 | Pkekyo| | ah, makes a bit more sense then |
| 18:52.13 | Wogroipl | at one point they thought the earth was flat |
| 18:52.23 | Pkekyo| | yes, but not a triangle |
| 18:52.25 | Pkekyo| | nor a cube |
| 18:52.29 | Wogroipl | maybe before that they thought it was a triangle? |
| 18:52.41 | Pkekyo| | lies Wogroipl |
| 18:52.43 | Wogroipl | how would you know? |
| 18:53.15 | Pkekyo| | I don't, but as this is zeh intarwebs, I don't have to know to call you a liar :p |
| 18:53.23 | Aeyan | Zing |
| 18:53.24 | Wogroipl | ugh, true |
| 18:53.32 | Kemayo | Pkekyo|: You could loosely translate it to "measuring space", which is quite apropos. |
| 18:53.35 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 18:53.52 | Pkekyo| | Kemayo: when you corrected 'metria' (if that was you), I got it |
| 18:53.57 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 18:54.08 | Kemayo | Ah, sorry, missed that comment. |
| 18:54.32 | Arrowmaster | FUCK! |
| 18:54.39 | Arrowmaster | i want to go blowup a bestbuy store |
| 18:54.49 | Pkekyo| | I'm in! |
| 18:54.51 | thul | i want to blow up 47st photo |
| 18:54.58 | Arrowmaster | i still dont have my fucking preorder of mass effect! |
| 18:54.58 | Pkekyo| | I'm in! |
| 18:55.06 | Pkekyo| | hot shit, anything involving explosives, I'M IN! |
| 18:55.11 | thul | 47st scammed me |
| 18:55.13 | thul | fuckers. |
| 18:55.29 | Pkekyo| | why didn't the "your mother" jokes die like half a century ago? |
| 18:55.31 | Aeyan | Damn Bioware and their PC neglect |
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| 18:55.50 | thul | Pkekyo|: why are stupid people making babies together? |
| 18:55.50 | thul | etc |
| 18:55.51 | Pkekyo| | damn everything, let's blow the earth to shit |
| 18:55.56 | Arrowmaster | damn who evers idea it was to make the mass effect le online order only |
| 18:55.58 | Pkekyo| | thul: because it's fun? |
| 18:56.09 | Pkekyo| | sex = win, no matter if you're stupid or not |
| 18:56.20 | Pkekyo| | well, depends on your partner in crime, but still...you get the point |
| 18:58.04 | Pkekyo| | sex = win in 90% of the cases when rape is excluded, I guess would be more accurate... |
| 18:59.08 | Osstia | I am thinking of learning to write an addon. I wanted to write something that would allow me to specify an item, and keep track of how many of those items I have. Similar to how a quest item is tracked and displayed using the quest tracker. But with any item I choose. |
| 19:00.08 | Osstia | Before I get going, does anyone know of an existing addon that does this? |
| 19:00.25 | Pkekyo| | no, but I'm fairly sure there is one |
| 19:00.35 | Pkekyo| | I used to have autobar do it for me |
| 19:00.41 | Pkekyo| | before it got that bloody waterfall config >.< |
| 19:00.44 | Arrowmaster | theres a few fubar plugins that can do that |
| 19:00.52 | Osstia | hrmm |
| 19:01.03 | Arrowmaster | probably perty old though |
| 19:01.03 | Osstia | I was doing it as much for the addon as for a way to learn to do this. |
| 19:01.19 | Osstia | Maybe I will start working on one anyway, just for the sake of learning |
| 19:01.34 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r56065 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 19:01.34 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP : |
| 19:01.34 | CIA-8 | - Wrong item ID corrected |
| 19:01.40 | Pkekyo| | well, if you need such an addon, it's as good a place as anywher eto start |
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| 19:03.55 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, that is the sad part |
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| 19:04.43 | Aeyan | I've made one addon that weighed in at a grueling 313 bytes |
| 19:04.55 | Aeyan | I then retired from the addon scene |
| 19:05.07 | Pkekyo| | thul: what is the sad part? |
| 19:05.30 | thul | well, if you go to the animal shelter and say: "i want a dog" or you go to the authorities and want to adopt |
| 19:05.33 | thul | you go trough heavy testing |
| 19:05.39 | thul | the same if you want a drivers licence.. |
| 19:05.45 | thul | but getting a kid the normal way? ALL RETARDS GO AHEAD |
| 19:05.53 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r56066 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 19:05.53 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions : |
| 19:05.55 | CIA-8 | - Wrong item ID corrected |
| 19:06.00 | Pkekyo| | hahah, didn't see the context...but I guess you're right...it' |
| 19:06.05 | Ozguli | thul good point |
| 19:06.16 | Pkekyo| | it've become a problem now after we stopped letting natural selection have it's way |
| 19:06.32 | thul | yup |
| 19:06.49 | Pkekyo| | in the old day it used to be 'the kid that swallows too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own'....now we pad them so bad, they couldn't get bruised if they tried to |
| 19:07.28 | thul | cut of branches .. so the kids won't climb trees |
| 19:07.31 | thul | pad the playground |
| 19:07.32 | thul | etc |
| 19:07.41 | TNSe | hmmm |
| 19:07.53 | TNSe | having this weirdass problem with wow now that i didnt have that (often) before |
| 19:07.53 | Pkekyo| | it's ridiculous |
| 19:08.02 | TNSe | suddenly it will stop up 100% for like 20-30 seconds |
| 19:08.09 | Pkekyo| | if my kid was a retard for whatever reason, I wouldn't exactly encourage him to go make retard babies... |
| 19:08.11 | TNSe | and then all textures are 'gay' (very colorful) |
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| 19:09.17 | Pkekyo| | TNSe: uninstall/reupdate graphics card drivers |
| 19:09.42 | Pkekyo| | corrupted drivers are arsehats to deal with, and cause random problems everywhere on your computer |
| 19:09.42 | TNSe | heh |
| 19:10.12 | Pkekyo| | custom drivers help alot |
| 19:10.25 | Pkekyo| | but don't use so called 'optimized' drivers for a specific game etc |
| 19:10.30 | Pkekyo| | will fuck up just about everything else |
| 19:11.49 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: you play a warlock, right? tell me what I'm doing wrong while leveling. |
| 19:12.16 | TNSe | heh |
| 19:12.23 | TNSe | I have used same drivers for ages |
| 19:12.40 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: everything? |
| 19:13.04 | kenlyric | right, but, prioritized |
| 19:13.06 | Pkekyo| | might've become corrupted, try uninstalling and reinstalling the same version...not promising anything, but it might help |
| 19:13.06 | TNSe | I'd scratch it up as overheat if I knew that its not overheating atm and that it has worked fine under betetr load and hotter environment rest of the day after that :P |
| 19:13.11 | Pkekyo| | btw, you rendering wow with openGL? |
| 19:13.22 | TNSe | but it looks like the texture cache is getting corrupted |
| 19:13.29 | TNSe | nd it ends up reuploading everything |
| 19:13.32 | TNSe | and fails entirely |
| 19:13.40 | TNSe | ie, driver issue. |
| 19:13.50 | TNSe | but then they have made it worse in 2.3 |
| 19:13.57 | TNSe | because it happenedl ike once a month pre-2.3 |
| 19:14.38 | Pkekyo| | >>btw, you rendering wow with openGL? |
| 19:15.55 | Pkekyo| | is that even possible anymore? know I used to do it before somehow, but can't find an option for it now |
| 19:16.26 | many | -open |
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| 19:16.29 | many | gl |
| 19:16.51 | many | ye talkin bout ati+vista? |
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| 19:17.16 | Heliwr | pop this into your config.wtf: SET gxAPI "opengl" |
| 19:17.21 | Pkekyo| | I wouldn't touch windows vista with a 500 feet pole if it came bundled with a gazillion fucking dollars |
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| 19:17.29 | many | wouldnt know another reson to opengl |
| 19:17.33 | many | use |
| 19:17.46 | Heliwr | linux too |
| 19:17.54 | many | wouldnt know another reson to opengl |
| 19:18.02 | many | oops |
| 19:18.05 | thul | hmm, lvling is easier now |
| 19:18.14 | Heliwr | :P |
| 19:18.18 | many | maybe heli |
| 19:18.19 | Pkekyo| | I've just been faithful to running OpenGL in games since like...for ever... |
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| 19:18.43 | many | opengl in wundows alwaysed sucked ass |
| 19:18.46 | many | imo |
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| 19:20.20 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNJ9w8KJdKY |
| 19:20.20 | Pkekyo| | I always got better results with that rather than d3d soeh |
| 19:20.53 | many | hows that |
| 19:20.58 | Borked|Raider | are there any taint in the newest prat? |
| 19:21.34 | Pkekyo| | many: dunno, it seems to be improving framerates etc across the board...dunno why |
| 19:21.53 | Pkekyo| | thul: wtf? |
| 19:22.00 | many | maybe i should finally try it with 2.3 again |
| 19:22.05 | thul | I'm laughing :-D |
| 19:22.15 | many | nayhow |
| 19:22.20 | many | the really odd thing is |
| 19:22.33 | Pkekyo| | are they truly retarded or? does it just look like they are? |
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| 19:22.43 | many | my weaker notebook with a radeon mobility has way more fps with 2.3 than my stronger desktop |
| 19:22.49 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 19:22.51 | many | (w/ a normal radeon) |
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| 19:23.21 | nevcairiel | that happens when the engine turns off certain features for lower quality hardware |
| 19:23.23 | nevcairiel | funny effect :P |
| 19:23.31 | many | it sure doesnt make sense, but its the way it is :> |
| 19:23.33 | many | nah |
| 19:23.34 | Borked|Raider | anyone know if theres a itemrack avalible that dont taint? |
| 19:23.54 | thul | Pkekyo|: the lady is drunk :-P |
| 19:23.59 | durcyn | give ClosetGnome a whirl, Raider. |
| 19:24.03 | many | the desktop is on lowest settings i could set |
| 19:24.39 | Pkekyo| | thul: thought she was just retarded :) |
| 19:24.51 | Pkekyo| | (I should give retarded people more credit) >.< |
| 19:24.53 | many | unless youre saying that wow itself turns some features off which arent settable by the graphics dialog |
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| 19:26.05 | Pkekyo| | many: they might be |
| 19:26.17 | Pkekyo| | bloody nvidia's drivers are disabling stuff in crysis for better framerates x) |
| 19:26.24 | many | iam gonna kick'em. |
| 19:26.51 | many | crysis wsa funny, but i didnt have the feeling i did hit anything with the weapons. 8) |
| 19:27.25 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 19:27.30 | Pkekyo| | those flying huge alien things |
| 19:27.38 | Pkekyo| | I just run...can't hit the sneeky bastards |
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| 19:28.21 | thul | haha |
| 19:28.26 | thul | 2h + heroic strike = tehwin at lvl 5:P |
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| 19:28.54 | many | as someone who last played first person ego shooters in doom I times i certainly cant get used to games like crysis and CoD4 |
| 19:29.14 | Xion` | CoD4 rocks |
| 19:29.45 | many | if i had better hardware id buy cod4 :) |
| 19:30.13 | many | r9600 and 1.8 ghz (TB) isnt what runs that good, though |
| 19:30.16 | Xion` | I can play 1, maybe 2 missions before my lappy overheats and shuts down :P |
| 19:31.22 | Borked|Raider | how can a variable taint 11/26 20:26:06.700 Global variable VFLKernelGetStartTime tainted by VFL - Interface\AddOns\VFL\Kernel.lua:14 |
| 19:31.30 | many | i should try it on my lappy, probably :) |
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| 19:32.18 | Pkekyo| | cod4/crysis = full of win and awesome until the end of time<3 |
| 19:32.24 | Pkekyo| | portal even more so :) |
| 19:32.50 | thul | btw, charge have to be iwin against mages and huntards? |
| 19:32.53 | Xion` | haven't bothered with Crysis yet |
| 19:35.11 | Pkekyo| | thul: not really |
| 19:35.19 | Pkekyo| | spell range > charge range ;) |
| 19:35.30 | Pkekyo| | mages counterspelling warriors at 41yds = no charge |
| 19:36.05 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 19:36.07 | thul | can one counterspell charge? |
| 19:36.12 | Borked|Raider | whats the diff on TaintLog 1 and TaintLog 2 |
| 19:36.14 | thul | that's stupid :-( |
| 19:36.26 | MentalPower | Borked|Raider: taint is not bad by definition, its only bad when it interferes with actions that require a secure path |
| 19:36.40 | MentalPower | for example that line you just pasted is normal and expected |
| 19:36.49 | Borked|Raider | oki |
| 19:37.17 | Borked|Raider | i know that tainting aint bad as default, i was just not expecting that stuff to be printet |
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| 19:38.17 | Orionshock | Borked|Raider: basicly anything not a blizzard addon or code is tainted by default and will blow up your taint log 2 |
| 19:38.27 | Xion` | thul CS puts them in combat so they can't charge |
| 19:38.38 | Borked|Raider | Orionshock, oki, so thats why its filled so fast :D |
| 19:38.44 | Xion` | incase you weren't ironic |
| 19:39.13 | Borked|Raider | Orionshock, will put it back to taintlog 1 then :) |
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| 19:40.36 | Ominous | haha i got an e-mail today from someone ordering me to bring ClassTimer upto date by upgrading it to use Rock |
| 19:41.05 | thul | Xion`: ahh.. ofc. |
| 19:41.05 | thul | good point :-P |
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| 19:41.13 | durcyn | Ominous: slaker. |
| 19:41.16 | durcyn | slacker even :/ |
| 19:41.21 | thul | i should start throwing at wars with my rogue |
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| 19:42.12 | Lywellyn | Anyone in here Windows-savvy enough (specifically Vista) to help me with security settings on folders? |
| 19:45.26 | Smj | Lywellyn: What do you want to do? |
| 19:45.41 | Pkekyo| | thulcan one counterspell charge? <--- no, but counterspell will put the warrior in combat. hence: he can't charge |
| 19:47.48 | Lywellyn | I have to set security settings on my WoW folder (and subfolders) and apparently giving Administrators that setting isn't enough to allow WAU to update those folders. |
| 19:48.31 | Lywellyn | I set the Everyone permission for WoW and below and now it works....but that's quite ugly from a security standpoint. Is there another user that is used for program access to folders, so I don't have to use "Everyone"? |
| 19:48.46 | sb | is it possible to bypass naj'entus? |
| 19:48.59 | sb | and go directly to supremus |
| 19:49.01 | sb | okay its not ;p |
| 19:49.03 | sb | nvm then |
| 19:50.06 | durcyn | Lywellyn: there should be a service account for .NET, you might try that. |
| 19:50.43 | thul | I miss my mount alrady, this is why I hate lvling :-P |
| 19:52.07 | Borked|Raider | Orionshock, MentalPower should stuff like 11/26 20:47:51.803 Global variable VFL tainted by VFL - Interface\AddOns\VFL\Kernel.lua:236 also happen useing TaintLog 1? |
| 19:52.34 | MentalPower | yes, I beleive so |
| 19:52.39 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.57 | MentalPower | s/beleive/believe / |
| 19:53.02 | MentalPower | s/beleive/believe/ |
| 19:54.08 | Borked|Raider | but again, bad tainting is only when a addon dont do what its expected to do because of it taint? |
| 19:55.26 | Fisker- | so sylvanaar_work |
| 19:55.33 | Fisker- | got that keylogger put into WAU now? |
| 19:55.42 | Fisker- | IT USED THE INTERNET |
| 19:55.44 | Fisker- | HENCE KEYLOGGER |
| 19:55.53 | sylvanaar_work | OMFG YOU CAUGHT ME |
| 19:56.03 | Fisker- | Blue plz |
| 19:56.16 | Fisker- | think about the casuals instead of catering to hardcore raiders |
| 19:56.32 | Fisker- | what did you change btw? |
| 19:56.46 | sylvanaar_work | curse client ----> thataway |
| 19:56.55 | sylvanaar_work | who |
| 19:56.56 | sylvanaar_work | me? |
| 19:57.06 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:57.08 | sylvanaar_work | i obfuscated the source |
| 19:57.14 | Fisker- | ah |
| 19:57.19 | Fisker- | to put in some keyloggars? |
| 19:57.20 | MentalPower | Borked|Raider: taint is not an issue for addons, only for the blizzard code |
| 19:57.22 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 19:57.29 | Fisker- | caught you! |
| 19:57.41 | sylvanaar_work | !! |
| 19:57.56 | jeramy | Xinhuan: ping |
| 19:58.00 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 19:58.01 | Borked|Raider | MentalPower, so people just need to ignore the taint? |
| 19:58.03 | Lywellyn | stupid WAU + Vista = Permission errors. Bah. I can't find the .NET user. I'm pretty sure my desktop with XP has one though.... |
| 19:58.23 | sylvanaar_work | Lywellyn take ownership of it |
| 19:58.24 | Fisker- | you can't even run .applications as administrator can you? |
| 19:58.25 | Borked|Raider | MentalPower, can the popup box still come with addon beeing disabled due taint? |
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| 19:58.35 | Orionshock | meh adds in WAU... don't care.. can't even click of it and make it open |
| 19:58.56 | Lywellyn | I can run WAU just fine. it's not until I tell it to update addon(s) that it throws up. |
| 19:59.01 | MentalPower | Borked|Raider: people should ignore the taint log unless they get the popup of "Action has been blocked foobarbaz" |
| 19:59.16 | MentalPower | then and only then should they inspect the log |
| 19:59.28 | sylvanaar_work | Lywellyn i just answered your question |
| 19:59.30 | MentalPower | Borked|Raider: the taintlog is only useful to devs, not the general population |
| 20:00.01 | Lywellyn | sylvanaar_work: The Administrators group already has ownership, so I should be included in that, should Inot? |
| 20:00.04 | Borked|Raider | MentalPower, oki thats also how i have looked at it, just people asking about the taint and i dint realy know what kind of answer to give. |
| 20:00.27 | Fisker- | lolwut |
| 20:00.39 | Fisker- | incgamers also stealing "our" addons |
| 20:00.57 | Orionshock | Borked|Raider: tell em to stfu till it borks something badly |
| 20:01.06 | Borked|Raider | :) |
| 20:01.08 | sylvanaar_work | Lywellyn dunno, i gave you my advice - thats all i can say |
| 20:01.26 | Borked|Raider | Fisker-, define stealing? |
| 20:01.32 | Orionshock | Lywellyn: move your wow folder out of \program files |
| 20:01.34 | Borked|Raider | and what have they stolen |
| 20:01.56 | Fisker- | Borked|Raider they made a bot to sync up all addon releases to their own shitty site |
| 20:02.05 | Fisker- | from wowace |
| 20:02.10 | Borked|Raider | hmm |
| 20:02.10 | Fisker- | they removed it again though |
| 20:02.31 | Borked|Raider | and what would they gain from that? |
| 20:02.41 | Fisker- | ad revenue probably |
| 20:02.52 | Borked|Raider | :) |
| 20:02.55 | Fisker- | Just like they contacted people about their shitty loot site when they launched that |
| 20:02.59 | Fisker- | even though we didn't agree to that |
| 20:03.30 | Orionshock | Borked|Raider: they where pissed that wowace generated more ad revenue than them, so by stealing our addons and putting it on their site, available though their own updater, they'd get more traffic |
| 20:03.31 | Borked|Raider | <- got no idea |
| 20:03.40 | Fisker- | But it still takes the cake that they're trying to link the Zam Network and WoWInterface to Child Pornography |
| 20:03.46 | Fisker- | that was the lowest thing i've EVER seen |
| 20:04.17 | Borked|Raider | :) |
| 20:04.28 | Corgan | lua> print "urmom" |
| 20:04.28 | lua_bot | Corgan: urmom |
| 20:04.38 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 20:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | one of the mages pulled aggro with a LC proc after the aggro reset at leo |
| 20:04.51 | sag_ich_nicht | leo runs up to him |
| 20:04.52 | grennon | shame on them stealing all of those free addons |
| 20:04.53 | kadrahil | lua_bot: 0/0 |
| 20:04.53 | sag_ich_nicht | smashes |
| 20:04.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and |
| 20:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | MISS |
| 20:04.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i lol'd IRL |
| 20:05.05 | kadrahil | lua_bot: print "urmom" |
| 20:05.08 | kadrahil | oh dear |
| 20:05.09 | Lywellyn | lua> 0/0 |
| 20:05.10 | lua_bot | Lywellyn: nan |
| 20:05.15 | MentalPower | lua> 1/0 |
| 20:05.15 | lua_bot | MentalPower: inf |
| 20:05.19 | MentalPower | lua> -1/0 |
| 20:05.19 | lua_bot | MentalPower: -inf |
| 20:05.19 | Lywellyn | what? |
| 20:05.23 | kadrahil | oh |
| 20:05.23 | Corgan | -inf |
| 20:05.25 | Corgan | lol |
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| 20:05.51 | Fisker- | grennon free and free are 2 seperate things |
| 20:05.52 | Borked|Raider | btw, how many people donate money to wowace and how much are we talking about, if there are any |
| 20:05.56 | kenlyric | wait, goldbuying doesn't support terrorism and child porn? |
| 20:06.05 | sylvanaar_work | I'd actuallly like to know that myself |
| 20:06.06 | Fisker- | if you have the slightest clue on how open source works you would also know that |
| 20:06.10 | Lywellyn | If you buy gold, the terrorists win. |
| 20:06.14 | Lywellyn | rofl. |
| 20:06.22 | NfNitLoop | Does ace have some UI libraries? I'm looking around wowace.com and haven't seen any yet. |
| 20:06.40 | NfNitLoop | I'm looking for something to do an easy popup for text entry. |
| 20:06.48 | Fisker- | playing world of warcraft supports terrorism kenlyric |
| 20:06.50 | Fisker- | yeah i went there |
| 20:07.03 | kenlyric | I train for combat in WoW |
| 20:07.04 | sylvanaar_work | omg hide the shampoo |
| 20:07.43 | Lywellyn | kenlyric: Damn straight. Playing my mage, I'm an adept at staff fighting now IRL. Just from playing my mage. |
| 20:08.06 | Orionshock | NfNitLoop: try a static popup |
| 20:08.17 | Fisker- | remember if you die in honorable battle you get sent up to 79 virgins (Anyone wanna play Magic: The Gathering?) |
| 20:08.28 | Fisker- | that family guy was great :O |
| 20:08.35 | sylvanaar_work | i didnt see it |
| 20:08.36 | NfNitLoop | Orionshock: eh? |
| 20:08.47 | Orionshock | static popup |
| 20:08.55 | kenlyric | it was pretty good. |
| 20:09.00 | kenlyric | OSAMAAAAAAAAAA |
| 20:09.04 | NfNitLoop | Orionshock: through some Ace API, or just directly to the WoW API? |
| 20:09.08 | Fisker- | sylvanaar_work joking at the promise you'll go to heaven where there are lots of virgins waiting for you |
| 20:09.18 | Orionshock | one sec |
| 20:09.22 | sylvanaar_work | yeah - i got that part |
| 20:09.30 | Orionshock | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/0307561/FrameXML/StaticPopup.lua |
| 20:09.30 | Fisker- | The virgins are of course boys playing rpg's |
| 20:09.32 | Orionshock | go |
| 20:09.35 | Orionshock | learn |
| 20:09.35 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 20:09.43 | Orionshock | de-Noob-ify yourself :D |
| 20:09.51 | Lywellyn | "Did they say that the virgins would all be women?" "Holy crap!" |
| 20:10.09 | NfNitLoop | Orion: Uh, that's what I'm trying to do. :) Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction. |
| 20:11.10 | thul | yehaw, soon lvl 8 |
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| 20:12.39 | Orionshock | NfNitLoop: just use a static popup |
| 20:12.56 | NfNitLoop | Plus, I just read about static popups, and it doesn't appear to be what I want. |
| 20:13.03 | NfNitLoop | I don't want an "OK" button, I want text entry. |
| 20:13.06 | many | wtf |
| 20:13.17 | many | ace has ui libs? iam surprised. |
| 20:13.19 | Orionshock | pop up box with a text box in the middle and a cancle and ok button |
| 20:13.25 | Orionshock | yes a static pop up can do that. |
| 20:13.47 | Orionshock | 2nd from the top |
| 20:14.27 | NfNitLoop | OH, didn't see the link you pasted. I was reading the wowwiki page. :p |
| 20:15.26 | Orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Popup_Simple_Dialog_Boxes |
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| 20:18.58 | NfNitLoop | Yeah, that's the one I was reading. |
| 20:19.15 | NfNitLoop | I see the 'hasEditBox' and 'maxLetters' options... |
| 20:19.23 | NfNitLoop | but I'm betting that gives a single-line edit box. |
| 20:19.29 | NfNitLoop | I'm looking for something that's multi-line. |
| 20:21.01 | JoshBorke | NfNitLoop: it is a single line edit box |
| 20:21.18 | JoshBorke | you'll have to write something else yourself |
| 20:21.25 | MentalPower | NfNitLoop: make your own frame, its not that hard |
| 20:21.52 | NfNitLoop | Yeah. i was just popping in to see if Ace had something that might do that. |
| 20:21.58 | NfNitLoop | code reuse and all that. :p |
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| 20:33.01 | Orionshock | what u need a multi line box for? |
| 20:33.50 | kontroll | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?dLx_timeG.zip << Zeroconfig clock. Worth making a config screen for? (.jpg = screenshot) |
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| 20:34.40 | Orionshock | fnoob - photo bucket |
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| 20:39.21 | kenlyric | any mods which make buffing groups easier when I don't want to use group buffs? |
| 20:40.15 | Aens|Superiority | any raid frame that shows buffs? |
| 20:40.57 | dylanm | I think he wants a CorkFu kinda thing |
| 20:41.17 | dylanm | Or maybe... there are those smartbuff whatever addons that seem like they would have a big ol' options page |
| 20:41.56 | kenlyric | what i've got now is grid showing me who is missing the buff and a click bound to fort. |
| 20:42.12 | kenlyric | but I'd like some automagical way to buff all my buffs on everyone, since it's free anyway. |
| 20:42.14 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.38 | Aens|Superiority | weren't those smart buff mods one of the things they took out in 2.0? |
| 20:42.49 | Aens|Superiority | because that was what decursive/detox was to the letter. |
| 20:43.02 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: could you try xrs? |
| 20:43.23 | NfNitLoop | Aens|Superiority: You can do smart buffing *outside* of combat. |
| 20:43.28 | NfNitLoop | Just not once combat has started. |
| 20:43.55 | dylanm | Not in combat, no |
| 20:44.04 | dylanm | You can get alerts as to who is missing stuff in combat most likely |
| 20:44.23 | dylanm | Again, I think CorkFu is a starting point. |
| 20:46.11 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56067 10ag_UnitFrames/ (locales/ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua modules/powerbar/powerbar.lua): ag_UnitFrames: hacked in powerbar fading/smoothing |
| 20:46.31 | Orionshock | lol |
| 20:46.47 | Orionshock | @ AH, scanning & AV poped, zoned, still have auction window open |
| 20:47.23 | Gngsk | is there an addon out there that uses SinkLib to send whatever would go to UIErrorFrames to your output of choice? |
| 20:47.56 | sylvanaar_work | why would you want that? |
| 20:47.58 | Saroz | Xyphor: self.db.char.damtype is not an optimized thing, use a local and check it |
| 20:48.20 | Orionshock | Gngsk: if you know how to, you can modify ErrorMonster to do that |
| 20:48.46 | Gngsk | Orionshock, I figured that's what I would do |
| 20:48.54 | Orionshock | what i did |
| 20:48.58 | Gngsk | commit imo |
| 20:49.09 | Orionshock | no |
| 20:49.19 | Orionshock | what i did fundamentaly fooked the nature of error monster |
| 20:49.46 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 20:52.39 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/78075 |
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| 20:54.11 | CIA-8 | 03arrowmaster * r56068 10Cartographer/ (24 files in 15 dirs): Cartographer: change Rock() calls to AceLibrary() calls for pure AceLibrary libs to try to work around a load order bug, also try to make the other files error cleaner if cartographer.lua fails to load due to an error |
| 20:56.06 | Fisker- | wuts dis? |
| 20:56.10 | Fisker- | Corgan is evolving? |
| 20:56.18 | Fisker- | Corgan stops evolving |
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| 20:57.13 | TNSe | "ok, lets pull kael" |
| 20:57.16 | TNSe | "hmm, I'm lagging" |
| 20:57.26 | TNSe | *instance server is down* |
| 20:58.12 | Orionshock | well that blows |
| 20:58.45 | TNSe | lol |
| 20:58.47 | TNSe | well |
| 20:59.02 | TNSe | right before that, it was like "a break or 1 more quick try?" |
| 20:59.17 | TNSe | everyone votes for 1 more quick try but server had a different opinion :P |
| 20:59.50 | kontroll | That only proves that one disgruntled raid member has control over said server. |
| 20:59.58 | TNSe | heh |
| 21:00.46 | Corgan | A wild Fisker appears. |
| 21:01.08 | Corgan | It's super effective |
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| 21:05.18 | Gngsk | Orionshock, you ever gonna make it so the daily quest addon uses SVs for which npc/quest to accept ? |
| 21:05.40 | Orionshock | get v5 |
| 21:05.45 | Orionshock | v4 is fked as is |
| 21:06.13 | Gngsk | oh, is it in branches or something? |
| 21:06.22 | Orionshock | on my google code |
| 21:06.55 | Orionshock | ..i should title it " SickOfClickingDailies-v5 --Ace3--" just to piss ppl off |
| 21:07.37 | Orionshock | thow in the good ol' fasion color code tooo |
| 21:07.50 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies5/ |
| 21:08.22 | Fisker- | noes Corgan |
| 21:08.24 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 21:10.19 | Gngsk | Ace3? |
| 21:10.24 | Gngsk | I'll just keep using 4 then |
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| 21:11.03 | Orionshock | ya you have to svn down the branch of ace3 to make it work, but it looks nice |
| 21:11.25 | Gngsk | you're not gonna be updating v4 on ace svn anymore |
| 21:11.28 | Amadeo | Deus Ex 3 announced...hope it's better than the second and more like the first |
| 21:11.45 | Orionshock | with new quests, but v4 is going to remain as is, simple as can be |
| 21:12.07 | Gngsk | you mean the new sunwell stuff, right? |
| 21:12.40 | Orionshock | ya , but as far as getting options into the sv, or making options for it in game , no |
| 21:13.52 | Gngsk | k |
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| 21:16.40 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56069 10ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: hacked in healthbar fading, fixed a small bug in powerbar fading |
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| 21:22.17 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. |
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| 21:28.17 | steev64 | when i attempt to checkout Mirror from svn, its trying to pull its externals from dev.wowace.com |
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| 21:30.29 | Orionshock | it's dev is a noob |
| 21:30.46 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r56070 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: Removed ping by accident, back in. |
| 21:31.06 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:31.21 | natherul | hey all, i would like some help to try and set up AutoProps for TortoiseSVN on Vista so i can upload... never used TortoiseSVN before, anyone here that can help me out? |
| 21:31.38 | kergoth | arent there instructions on the wiki? pretty sure i put them there |
| 21:32.32 | natherul | yeah but when i tried to follow them i got messge that said i still have to do it... |
| 21:34.07 | kergoth | you added the lines to the svn config in tortoisesvn's settings? did you add them in the correct section of the config file, or just anywhere? |
| 21:34.39 | kergoth | enable-auto-props = yes has to be under [miscellany] |
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| 21:37.55 | Pkekyo| | what's today's date? |
| 21:38.14 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.15 | purl | It is now 2007.11.26 21:38:15 GMT |
| 21:38.19 | Xinhuan | 27th november 2007, tuesday, 5.40 am |
| 21:38.34 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
| 21:38.49 | Pkekyo| | wtf, what timezone you in Xinhuan? |
| 21:38.53 | Xinhuan | GMT +8 |
| 21:39.03 | Xinhuan | singapore |
| 21:40.43 | Tinyboom | anyone else here having problems with pitbull and bg's? |
| 21:40.52 | steev64 | what kind of problems |
| 21:40.59 | natherul | kergoth, i still dont get it to work... |
| 21:41.10 | Tinyboom | steev64: party frames won't hide in bg's |
| 21:41.12 | steev64 | i don't seem to have any issues with it - i just wish i could figure out per character settings |
| 21:41.28 | kergoth | well, you're doing something wrong. i don't know how to make it any clearer. see the chapter of the svn book on autoprops if you want to learn exactly what needs setting in the config file |
| 21:41.30 | steev64 | Tinyboom: do you have it set to? |
| 21:41.37 | Tinyboom | steev64: aye |
| 21:41.55 | Tinyboom | steev64: works fine in normal raids... |
| 21:45.13 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56071 10GlowFoSho/: |
| 21:45.13 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
| 21:45.13 | CIA-8 | - externals fixed |
| 21:45.41 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56072 10Mirror/: |
| 21:45.41 | CIA-8 | Mirror: |
| 21:45.42 | CIA-8 | - externals fixed |
| 21:45.49 | kergoth | Orionshock: should think about adding a copyright statement to the sickofclickingdailies5/core.lua header, in addition to the license. it's already under your copyright, might as well be explicit about it |
| 21:46.18 | natherul | hrrmmm, kergoth can you give me one example of a line so i know if i should use # or whatever...? |
| 21:46.30 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56073 10FuBar_WorldPVPFu/: |
| 21:46.30 | CIA-8 | FuBar_WorldPVPFu: |
| 21:46.30 | CIA-8 | - externals fixed |
| 21:47.15 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56074 10AutoProfitX/ (. AutoProfitX.lua): |
| 21:47.15 | CIA-8 | AutoProfitX: |
| 21:47.17 | CIA-8 | - externals fixed |
| 21:48.27 | bigzero | ok, so obviously i'm a noob, but what's the difference between the svn.wowace.com and dev.wowace.com? I assume dev needs special priviledges to access, right? |
| 21:48.46 | JoshBorke | bigzero: you cannot commit to svn |
| 21:48.46 | durcyn | dev is r/w and requires an account, svn is public read-only |
| 21:49.09 | bigzero | so if i had all my externals set to dev, the users would not be able to download them? |
| 21:49.18 | JoshBorke | bigzero: right |
| 21:49.26 | bigzero | surprised noone's complained until today |
| 21:49.53 | Xinhuan | maybe its because nobody uses your addon ;p |
| 21:49.54 | steev64 | not a lot of users use svn for their mods :) |
| 21:50.06 | bigzero | lol, probably Xinhuan |
| 21:50.23 | steev64 | i started using it because EQCompare became incompatible though I never had any issues |
| 21:50.39 | steev64 | and i couldn't find "tekKompare" which was what the changelog entry said, and saw mirror |
| 21:50.45 | kergoth | natherul: http://git.kergoth.com/homefiles/tree/.subversion/config is mine, down under [miscellany] |
| 21:50.55 | steev64 | mmmm git |
| 21:50.56 | NightHawkAtWork | I think most of the people who checkout code from the svn have accounts anyway, so :P |
| 21:50.56 | bigzero | well, it should work now steev64 |
| 21:51.11 | steev64 | ahh there we go |
| 21:51.40 | bigzero | the only difference between eqcompare and mirror is that mirror doesn't have the on link hover stuff |
| 21:51.55 | steev64 | hm - feature request of sorts - no idea if its even possible - but if you are mousing over what you are wearing...(character sheet only) - i don't quite understand the point of comparing it to... itself |
| 21:52.30 | bigzero | hmm, i guess i could remove it |
| 21:52.38 | steev64 | i get the weapons, rings and trinkets - i just don't know if you could only enable those |
| 21:52.41 | bigzero | lol, never really bothered me |
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| 22:01.24 | thul | soon 10.. :-P |
| 22:02.04 | RaydenUni | do you guys know if anyone has studied how much threat VE adds? |
| 22:02.12 | *** join/#wowace Lyn_ (n=Lyn@Le40a.l.pppool.de) |
| 22:02.18 | NivFreak | depends on incoming dmg |
| 22:02.48 | NivFreak | and how many mobs |
| 22:02.49 | RaydenUni | i'm doing almost twice as much threat as the rogue and the warlock in KZ but only a little more dmg |
| 22:02.51 | *** join/#wowace Lyn_ (n=Lyn@Le40a.l.pppool.de) |
| 22:02.53 | Xinhuan | i thought the values are standard? |
| 22:02.57 | *** join/#wowace Punkie`afk (i=9266Punk@server1.bouncer4you.de) |
| 22:03.00 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: don't use VE then |
| 22:03.06 | Xinhuan | 1 damage done = 1 threat, 2 damage healed = 1 threat |
| 22:03.08 | RaydenUni | yeah that's what i'm thinking |
| 22:03.11 | NivFreak | twice as much threat as a warlock |
| 22:03.13 | NivFreak | he must suck |
| 22:03.19 | Xinhuan | so if your VE heals 5 ppl of 10 damage each = 50 healing = 25 threat |
| 22:03.21 | kergoth | steev64: git has me spoiled. i still like svn, but git is _so damned fast_.. |
| 22:03.45 | RaydenUni | http://wowwebstats.com/qrfwm1arw3dzs |
| 22:03.48 | RaydenUni | from last night |
| 22:04.05 | Xinhuan | so "twice as much threat, but about the same damage" sounds about right, since rogues have a passive -10% threat |
| 22:04.11 | RaydenUni | i know that |
| 22:04.17 | Xinhuan | and your ve heals 5 ppl |
| 22:04.20 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: not compared to a warlock.. |
| 22:04.36 | Xinhuan | means the lock sucks? :) |
| 22:04.52 | NivFreak | that's what I'm sayin |
| 22:04.54 | RaydenUni | i did 4131 healing in that battle |
| 22:05.02 | NivFreak | our shadow priest is always the one to be riding the threat line |
| 22:05.27 | RaydenUni | which is nothing compared to the 127997 dmg i did |
| 22:05.39 | NivFreak | rogues have vanish, warlocks of soulshatter |
| 22:05.44 | NivFreak | you have nothing perminate |
| 22:05.45 | Xinhuan | uh it also applies to VT's mana healing |
| 22:05.48 | Xinhuan | not just VE |
| 22:05.50 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:06.18 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 22:06.22 | RaydenUni | yeah that is probably much more |
| 22:07.28 | RaydenUni | it just doesn't seem like dropping VE would lessen my threat very much |
| 22:07.41 | RaydenUni | and dropping VT would beg the question of why am i there? |
| 22:08.22 | NivFreak | you'll likely always be threat bound |
| 22:08.29 | JoshBorke | RaydenUni: drop MB out of your rotation |
| 22:08.34 | RaydenUni | i wasn't using MB or SWD |
| 22:08.38 | NivFreak | wow |
| 22:08.38 | RaydenUni | this was SWP, VE, VT, and MF |
| 22:08.41 | NivFreak | does your tank suck? |
| 22:08.53 | RaydenUni | i don't think so |
| 22:08.56 | NivFreak | how much +dmg do you have? |
| 22:09.00 | JoshBorke | what was your tps? |
| 22:09.00 | RaydenUni | i know i'm better geared than the rest of my guild |
| 22:09.01 | NivFreak | and what kind of TPS is he pushing |
| 22:09.18 | NivFreak | better gear for a warrior often means lower TPS |
| 22:09.19 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:09.30 | RaydenUni | i don't know his tps |
| 22:09.35 | NivFreak | do you use Omen? |
| 22:09.45 | RaydenUni | our usual main tank wasn't there, we had a pally and the warrior off tank |
| 22:09.46 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 22:09.55 | NivFreak | with TPS turned on? |
| 22:09.55 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r56075 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_Main.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 22:09.57 | CIA-8 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 22:09.59 | CIA-8 | -Fixed a bug that could freeze WoW completly when opening ProfessionsBook. Thanks to Cylon for sending me his database to help me track down that problem. |
| 22:10.04 | RaydenUni | probably, i don't remember any numbers |
| 22:10.10 | NivFreak | well watch his threat |
| 22:10.14 | NivFreak | next time |
| 22:10.19 | RaydenUni | 786 shadow dmg unbuffed |
| 22:10.25 | NivFreak | yea, your tank sucks |
| 22:10.25 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:10.43 | NivFreak | I suggest yelling MORE THREAT at him |
| 22:10.44 | NivFreak | over vent |
| 22:10.49 | NivFreak | it trains us well |
| 22:11.44 | harl|7days | anyone using ObjectDock? |
| 22:11.46 | NivFreak | my guess is, he isn't even pushing 600TPS |
| 22:11.54 | NivFreak | at least not sustaining it |
| 22:12.00 | RaydenUni | wowarmory is slow today |
| 22:12.14 | RaydenUni | later on vs single mobs i was seeing if i could grab aggro |
| 22:12.20 | RaydenUni | i could by the end of the battle |
| 22:12.30 | RaydenUni | on the 72 elite guys i think |
| 22:12.43 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Xillez |
| 22:12.45 | Xinhuan | tanking issue |
| 22:12.45 | RaydenUni | pally tank |
| 22:13.01 | NivFreak | When I had that much dmg on my shadow priest |
| 22:13.10 | NivFreak | I could not pull aggro off a decent tank |
| 22:13.15 | NivFreak | except in rare occasion |
| 22:13.22 | Xinhuan | if the tank is a paladin, and the boss is undead/demon |
| 22:13.23 | NivFreak | using SW:D every CD |
| 22:13.25 | NivFreak | VE up |
| 22:13.29 | NivFreak | and Mindblast every CD |
| 22:13.29 | Xinhuan | there is no way a spriest can pull aggro off the paladin ;p |
| 22:13.41 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 22:13.45 | RaydenUni | i'll talk to him about it later |
| 22:13.46 | *** join/#wowace aestil (n=holycall@cpe-72-129-96-142.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 22:13.48 | NivFreak | now on a bad tank |
| 22:13.52 | NivFreak | I couldn't SW:D or MB |
| 22:13.53 | RaydenUni | of all the people in our guild he has the most experience raiding |
| 22:13.53 | NivFreak | at all |
| 22:14.00 | NivFreak | that doesn't mean anything |
| 22:14.05 | RaydenUni | with bad tanks in pug i can throw my dots up and pull aggro |
| 22:14.06 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 22:14.15 | NivFreak | Our worse tank is the one who has been tanking the longest |
| 22:14.15 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:14.22 | NivFreak | he's too stubborn to learn to play |
| 22:15.04 | NivFreak | if he's overgeared he might be conserving mana |
| 22:15.13 | aestil | we 1 shot the first 4 bosses in hyjal last night, and i stepped out to get a newer SP the vial on a cleanup vashj kill [we have a b team that can clear through to vashj in ssc on offnight raids] |
| 22:15.31 | aestil | i beat the 'GM' of the guild in dmg [he's also a SP] by almost 1 million dmg. |
| 22:15.42 | aestil | and he was there for the whole vashj fight and all the earlier starting stuff. |
| 22:15.53 | NivFreak | nice |
| 22:16.01 | NivFreak | it's really amusing how large the gap can be |
| 22:16.07 | NivFreak | from ok players, to good players |
| 22:16.18 | aestil | I don't out gear him |
| 22:16.23 | NivFreak | it's not gear |
| 22:16.25 | NivFreak | it's player |
| 22:16.27 | Xinhuan | kinda like hunters who know how to shot rotate |
| 22:16.30 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 22:16.36 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: exactly |
| 22:16.36 | RaydenUni | the pally tank out dps'd me vs trash in KZ |
| 22:16.42 | aestil | hyjal is not a good test of hunter dps at all. |
| 22:16.50 | aestil | they are pretty much kiting 1 mob constantly. |
| 22:16.52 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:17.08 | NivFreak | do you guys use prot pallys in hyjal? |
| 22:17.14 | aestil | we have 1. |
| 22:17.23 | DreadWingKnight | I've been a 0/7/54 survival that kept pace with marks/survival hybrids |
| 22:17.43 | Xinhuan | i think all the spriests in my guild have at least 1220 shadow damage ;p |
| 22:18.01 | RaydenUni | how much TPS should a pally tank in KZ be doing? |
| 22:18.09 | Xinhuan | and that's 4 of them |
| 22:18.16 | aestil | i have just over 1100 unbuffed. |
| 22:18.20 | *** join/#wowace JoFu (i=jofu@dslb-082-083-107-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:18.20 | RaydenUni | KZ has very few more drops for me :( |
| 22:18.24 | JoshBorke | aestil: me too! |
| 22:18.27 | aestil | our b est geared one has around 1250. |
| 22:18.30 | RaydenUni | and none off the first 4 bosses we have been doing |
| 22:18.39 | aestil | he has cloak, bracers and legs out of hyjal. |
| 22:18.39 | JoshBorke | !c us stormreaver dagh |
| 22:18.59 | aestil | !vs us darkspeark aestil us stormreaver dagh |
| 22:19.03 | aestil | no thrae bot. |
| 22:19.11 | JoshBorke | aestil: there is thraebot, just lagged |
| 22:19.20 | JoshBorke | hopefully i'm not in my "pvp" gear |
| 22:19.31 | aestil | armory is jacked up right now. |
| 22:19.40 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/44). 8021 HP; 8445 Mana; 145 mana regen; 50 mp5; 112 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 890 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (1069); 230 shadow dmg (1120); 4.82% dodge; 22 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 611 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25cjtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Mon Nov 26 12:35:30 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:20.34 | RaydenUni | i really need to get exalted with lower city |
| 22:20.40 | ThraeBot | aestil: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 22:20.51 | aestil | yeah, i failed. |
| 22:21.05 | aestil | !vs us darkspear aestil us stormreaver dagh |
| 22:21.08 | ThraeBot | aestil: Aestil vs Dagh! Two 70 priests square off!; 19/0/42 vs 14/0/44; Aestil wins by 380 TBRs! |
| 22:21.28 | aestil | uh, dagh, you havn't spent all your talent points? |
| 22:21.40 | RaydenUni | i haven't :P |
| 22:21.43 | CIA-8 | 03starinnia * r56076 10SimpleMD/SMD_Timers.lua: SimpleMD: Fix to bars not following the anchor (drycoded) |
| 22:21.49 | RaydenUni | seeing how much +hit i'll end up with after i get all my gear |
| 22:22.01 | Osstia | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.12 | Osstia | I hate my server name |
| 22:22.20 | Osstia | !vs us darkspear aestil us kel'thuzad osstia |
| 22:22.35 | JoFu | Tornhoof: are you there ? |
| 22:22.42 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Aestil vs Osstia! Two 70 priests square off!; 19/0/42 vs 39/22/0; Aestil wins by 34 TBRs! |
| 22:24.07 | Osstia | !vs us darkspear aestil us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 22:24.47 | steev64 | hmm |
| 22:24.55 | JoshBorke | aestil: naw, not yet. i just did, wasn't sure where to put the points |
| 22:25.00 | steev64 | !vs us draka solene us draka sadassassin |
| 22:25.26 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Aestil vs Shaytan! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 19/0/42 vs 17/44/0; Aestil wins by 322 TBRs! |
| 22:25.32 | ThraeBot | steev64: Solene vs Sadassassin! Two 70 rogues square off!; 18/0/43 vs 15/41/5; Sadassassin wins by 1207 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 22:25.48 | steev64 | eep |
| 22:25.56 | steev64 | what are TBRs? |
| 22:25.58 | thul | hmm |
| 22:25.58 | Osstia | What is a TBR? |
| 22:26.00 | Ozguli | priest wins a rogue? |
| 22:26.04 | aestil | ~what is a tbr |
| 22:26.05 | purl | ACTION is a tbr to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 22:26.05 | thul | which talent first as warrior Pkekyo| ? :-P |
| 22:26.08 | Ozguli | just like that, eee. |
| 22:26.12 | durcyn | ~tbr |
| 22:26.13 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 22:26.26 | durcyn | let's see if we can dethrone aestil. |
| 22:26.31 | aestil | oh easil |
| 22:26.38 | durcyn | !vs us darkspear aestil us turalyon durcyn |
| 22:26.44 | aestil | !vs us darkspear us darkspear acero |
| 22:26.45 | steev64 | !vs us draka elekatun us darkspear aestil |
| 22:26.54 | ThraeBot | durcyn: Aestil vs Durcyn! A L70 priest and a L70 warlock square off!; 19/0/42 vs 40/0/21; Durcyn wins by 113 TBRs! |
| 22:26.54 | ThraeBot | steev64: elekatun vs aestil! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? aestil is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes aestil 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit! |
| 22:27.14 | steev64 | what? |
| 22:27.16 | Osstia | !vs us kel`thuzad osstia us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 22:27.16 | ThraeBot | Osstia: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 22:27.20 | steev64 | !vs us draka elekatun us darkspear aestil |
| 22:27.20 | ThraeBot | steev64: I just said that 26s ago. |
| 22:27.33 | durcyn | heh. |
| 22:27.40 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:27.41 | steev64 | damn it |
| 22:27.43 | steev64 | !vs us draka elekatun us darkspear aestil |
| 22:27.47 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad osstia us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 22:27.47 | aestil | !vs us darkspear aestil us darkspear acero |
| 22:27.47 | ThraeBot | steev64: Elekatun vs Aestil! A L70 shaman and a L70 priest square off!; 0/5/56 vs 19/0/42; Aestil wins by 214 TBRs! |
| 22:27.49 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Osstia vs Shaytan! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 39/22/0 vs 17/44/0; Osstia wins by 289 TBRs! |
| 22:27.53 | ThraeBot | aestil: Aestil vs Acero! Two 70 priests square off!; 19/0/42 vs 14/0/47; Acero wins by 27 TBRs! |
| 22:28.02 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad cribb us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 22:28.17 | *** join/#wowace Eternally777 (n=eternall@12.34.2.10) |
| 22:28.21 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Cribb vs Shaytan! A L70 warrior and a L70 rogue square off!; 9/5/47 vs 17/44/0; Cribb wins by 1123 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 22:28.26 | durcyn | ok now would probably be a good time to privmsg the bot. |
| 22:28.31 | durcyn | instead of spamming the channel |
| 22:29.02 | Xinhuan | !vs us blackrock xinhuan us darkspear aestil |
| 22:29.02 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Xinhuan vs Aestil! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 17/0/44 vs 19/0/42; Aestil wins by 106 TBRs! |
| 22:29.02 | Ozguli | !vs eu ravenholdt epathus eu ravenholdt ghiifk |
| 22:29.02 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad cribb us kel'thuzad osstia |
| 22:29.02 | Xinhuan | hmm i must have logged out in pve gear |
| 22:29.02 | Stanzilla | !vs us darkspear aestil eu zirkel des cenarius Arcádia |
| 22:29.14 | Ozguli | lol froze |
| 22:29.16 | aestil | dude guys, i suck at pvp, you all win. |
| 22:29.21 | Stanzilla | eh :/ |
| 22:29.27 | aestil | Xinhuan: i only have pvp gear? |
| 22:29.33 | steev64 | im still not clear on what the tbr stuff is, but meh |
| 22:29.39 | aestil | ~tbr |
| 22:29.40 | purl | i heard tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 22:29.41 | steev64 | my resto shaman sucks at pvp |
| 22:29.46 | steev64 | no no - i read that |
| 22:29.47 | ThraeBot | Ozguli: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 22:29.47 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Cribb vs Osstia! A L70 warrior and a L70 priest square off!; 9/5/47 vs 39/22/0; Cribb wins by 868 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 22:29.49 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 22:29.55 | steev64 | i still don't take into account all that stuffs |
| 22:29.55 | Stanzilla | ! |
| 22:30.03 | Stanzilla | !vs us darkspear aestil eu "zirkel des cenarius" Arcádia |
| 22:30.03 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: aestil vs Arcádia! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? aestil wins by 8658278 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 22:30.07 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad huklos us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 22:30.11 | Ozguli | I didn't fail! |
| 22:30.20 | Stanzilla | ~fail ThraeBot |
| 22:30.21 | purl | ThraeBot: Fail. |
| 22:30.23 | steev64 | heh, oooh i know |
| 22:30.23 | Ozguli | stupid bot... worked fine when I used msg |
| 22:30.24 | aestil | wtf. i should be failing hard. |
| 22:30.31 | Stanzilla | !vs us darkspear aestil eu "zirkel des cenarius" Arcádia |
| 22:30.36 | Ozguli | !vs eu ravenholdt epathus eu ravenholdt ghiifk |
| 22:30.41 | Ozguli | go go go |
| 22:30.42 | steev64 | !vs us draka solene us draka steev |
| 22:31.08 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Huklos vs Shaytan! Two 70 rogues square off!; Huklos wins by 1139 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 22:31.08 | steev64 | 70 rogue vs 11 rogue |
| 22:31.12 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 22:31.13 | ThraeBot | Ozguli: Epathus vs Ghiifk! A L70 warrior and a L70 rogue square off!; 36/25/0 vs 0/31/30; Ghiifk wins by 459 TBRs! |
| 22:31.31 | Stanzilla | !vs us darkspear aestil eu zirkel+des+cenarius Arcádia |
| 22:31.44 | Ozguli | if I can pop all my cooldowns it's a victory by default situation in 1v1 |
| 22:31.51 | steev64 | it probably can't handle the characters in the name |
| 22:32.10 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad shaytan us kel'thuzad huklos |
| 22:32.11 | steev64 | if i can keep up my earth shield, i can win |
| 22:32.16 | ThraeBot | steev64: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 22:32.25 | Xinhuan | !vs us darkspear aestil eu zirkel%20des%20cenarius Arcádia |
| 22:32.27 | steev64 | sadly though, these days i can't keep it on to save my life |
| 22:32.28 | Ozguli | buut... let's see |
| 22:32.43 | Ozguli | !vs eu ravenholdt melanus eu ravenholdt ghiifk |
| 22:32.50 | Ozguli | that mage can actually beat me |
| 22:33.04 | Ozguli | easily, by kiting (not sure if he can with my latest build) |
| 22:33.21 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 22:33.33 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Shaytan vs Huklos! Two 70 rogues square off!; Huklos wins by 1139 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 22:33.39 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Aestil vs Arcádia! Two 70 priests square off!; 19/0/42 vs 13/0/48; Arcádia wins by 248 TBRs! |
| 22:33.48 | Xinhuan | hahaha i win |
| 22:33.50 | steev64 | well me (solene) versus sadassassin is me winning by a vast margin despite what ThraeBot says - because sadassassin typically has a latency of around 1k |
| 22:34.01 | Ozguli | lol no wonder |
| 22:34.17 | steev64 | he uses edge or whatever to connect |
| 22:34.34 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 22:34.41 | ThraeBot | Ozguli: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 22:35.01 | Ozguli | ... |
| 22:35.03 | steev64 | that reminds me |
| 22:35.07 | Xinhuan | its just simple HTTP protocol, chars that are special need to be converted into hex format and %20 is the " " char :) |
| 22:35.09 | steev64 | i need to install wow on my laptop |
| 22:35.34 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone bigzero us spirestone desice |
| 22:35.40 | steev64 | maybe ill bring it in to work tomorrow and do that |
| 22:35.58 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Bigzero vs Desice! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 11/47/3 vs 18/43/0; Desice wins by 830 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 22:36.16 | bigzero | lol |
| 22:36.26 | steev64 | !vs us draka solene us draka mynch |
| 22:36.34 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: thx :p |
| 22:36.39 | ThraeBot | steev64: Solene vs Mynch! Two 70 rogues square off!; 18/0/43 vs 14/42/5; Mynch wins by 388 TBRs! |
| 22:36.49 | steev64 | feh |
| 22:36.54 | steev64 | i totally own her too |
| 22:37.02 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone tucker us spirestone bigzero |
| 22:37.09 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Tucker vs Bigzero! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 0/47/14 vs 11/47/3; Bigzero wins by 297 TBRs! |
| 22:37.51 | Xinhuan | TBRs are strongly weighted towards Stamina and Resilience btw, if you log out in pvp gear, you'll have a high tbr |
| 22:38.11 | thul | tbr is what? :-P |
| 22:38.24 | thul | !vs eu balna thyve eu balna haplo |
| 22:38.28 | Ozguli | well that explains |
| 22:38.32 | thul | :-( |
| 22:38.33 | Ozguli | what about |
| 22:38.43 | NivFreak | !vs us draka solene us frostwolf nivwar |
| 22:38.46 | steev64 | yeah, i don't have much resilience on my rogue |
| 22:38.51 | Ozguli | t6 rogue against 600 resi holy pala? |
| 22:39.02 | NivFreak | I must have failed |
| 22:39.08 | steev64 | nah, it takes a bit |
| 22:39.10 | Xinhuan | nobody knows the formula thrae used |
| 22:39.11 | steev64 | armory is slow currently |
| 22:39.15 | ThraeBot | thul: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 22:39.28 | Ozguli | or the bot fails? |
| 22:39.30 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:39.31 | Xinhuan | but you can always reverse engineer it just like how people did it for ItemLevel :P |
| 22:39.40 | NivFreak | I can't wait to see how my scrubby pvp gear stacks up |
| 22:39.42 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 22:39.53 | ThraeBot | NivFreak: Solene vs Nivwar! A L70 rogue and a L70 warrior square off!; 18/0/43 vs 31/27/3; Nivwar wins by 5 TBRs! |
| 22:39.56 | NivFreak | hahaha |
| 22:39.58 | steev64 | the only pvp gear i have on my rogue is the season 2 offhand heh |
| 22:39.58 | NivFreak | hot |
| 22:40.13 | bigzero | steev64, i removed the comparisons for all items except rings, trinkets, and the weapon slots. It's still a little redundant since it shows the same ring/trinket as well as the other one. Also the weapon comaprisons are redundant if you are using a "held in offhand". either way, i think i'll leave it that way |
| 22:40.19 | Ozguli | ooo, now it decided to tell me that armory is slow |
| 22:40.30 | steev64 | bigzero: ill give it a go :) |
| 22:40.54 | NivFreak | !vs us frostwolf prayforit us frostwolf nivwar |
| 22:40.55 | Ozguli | should I wait for response or try again later? |
| 22:41.10 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56077 10Mirror/Mirror.lua: |
| 22:41.10 | CIA-8 | Mirror: |
| 22:41.11 | ThraeBot | NivFreak: Prayforit vs Nivwar! A L70 priest and a L70 warrior square off!; 25/36/0 vs 31/27/3; Nivwar wins by 473 TBRs! |
| 22:41.14 | CIA-8 | - only rings, trinkets and weapons will display a comparison tooltip for your own character |
| 22:41.46 | steev64 | i really need to get my rogue better gear |
| 22:41.48 | steev64 | the issue is |
| 22:41.49 | Ozguli | Ghiifk vs Melanus! Ghiifk has +1 lvls on Melanus (70 vs 69); A L70 rogue and a L69 mage square off!; 0/31/30 vs 0/0/59; Ghiifk wins by 1316 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 22:41.57 | steev64 | my shaman is the main healer |
| 22:42.02 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone solmyr us spirestone bigzero |
| 22:42.07 | steev64 | so.... kinda hard to get a run through kara for my rogue |
| 22:42.07 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Solmyr vs Bigzero! Two 70 mages square off!; 10/48/3 vs 11/47/3; Solmyr wins by 333 TBRs! |
| 22:42.13 | Ozguli | but as I said that mage can beat me |
| 22:42.22 | Ozguli | without trouble, lame frost talents. |
| 22:42.37 | steev64 | i can has cookie cutter build? |
| 22:43.36 | Xinhuan | you know, how did the term "cookie cutter" come about? |
| 22:43.53 | Xinhuan | you don't cut cookies, you break them or eat them |
| 22:44.20 | Amadeo | you cut them when you make them into fancy shapes |
| 22:44.25 | Amadeo | pre-cooking |
| 22:44.37 | Xinhuan | thats counter intuitive |
| 22:45.13 | Xinhuan | should call it "meat chopper" build |
| 22:45.30 | Xinhuan | more households chop meat than cut cookies! |
| 22:45.36 | Amadeo | I'm sure someone will change it one of these days |
| 22:45.44 | buu | Xinhuan: But chopping meat doesn't produce a large number of identical shapes. |
| 22:45.45 | Amadeo | Just like cutting edge somehow turned into bleeding edge :P |
| 22:45.52 | buu | Unlike cookie cutters. |
| 22:45.54 | Amadeo | and rocket science turned into rocket surgery |
| 22:46.12 | buu | Xinhuan: You've really never "cut cookies"? |
| 22:46.25 | Amadeo | I cut cookies with buu all the time |
| 22:46.31 | buu | Damn straight. |
| 22:46.39 | Ozguli | Thrae, your bot should count +stealth too |
| 22:46.47 | Xinhuan | why bake your own when it costs less than a dollar to buy them from a store 4 min away? |
| 22:46.48 | Ozguli | like, in rogue duels that matters a lot |
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| 22:47.33 | CIA-8 | 03tilt * r56078 10RatKiller/ (. RatKiller.lua RatKiller.toc RatKiller.xml): |
| 22:47.35 | CIA-8 | RatKiller |
| 22:47.37 | CIA-8 | - First public version. |
| 22:47.39 | CIA-8 | - Adds support for total rat kills across all characters. |
| 22:47.41 | Xinhuan | . |
| 22:47.41 | CIA-8 | - All previous rat counters will be reset ! |
| 22:47.55 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 22:47.57 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:47.59 | steev64 | oh sweet! |
| 22:48.08 | Xinhuan | does it count all critters? |
| 22:48.12 | Xinhuan | or just rats |
| 22:48.14 | steev64 | just rats |
| 22:48.23 | steev64 | im so getting that |
| 22:48.28 | steev64 | hopefully you can announce to raid |
| 22:48.30 | steev64 | that would be awesome |
| 22:48.35 | Xinhuan | about as fun as jump counter |
| 22:48.54 | Xinhuan | how does jump counter work btw? |
| 22:49.16 | steev64 | no idea |
| 22:50.12 | Arrowmaster | securehooks the jump function |
| 22:50.23 | Tinyboom | ohhh, have to get that, love killing rats:p though it should be made to count all critter kills:p |
| 22:50.57 | Ozguli | lvl 0 & 1 monsters are critters. |
| 22:51.16 | steev64 | i want to kill that level 60 cat outside exodar |
| 22:51.17 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt be 'that' hard to code up something to check if something is a critter when mouseovering it and storing the name |
| 22:51.21 | steev64 | nibblet |
| 22:51.29 | Ozguli | is that a critter? |
| 22:51.30 | Arrowmaster | theres level 5 critters |
| 22:51.35 | Ozguli | mmh. |
| 22:51.39 | Ozguli | really? |
| 22:51.48 | JoshBorke | Ozguli: yes |
| 22:51.51 | Xinhuan | cows are lvl 10 critters ;p |
| 22:51.52 | JoshBorke | Ozguli: and they attack back |
| 22:51.54 | Ozguli | I consider everything that has 0 hp as a critter |
| 22:52.08 | Ozguli | more -> non-aggressive beast |
| 22:52.29 | [Ammo] | yay gurtogg boiled and served with salad! :) |
| 22:52.33 | Arrowmaster | some minipets are critters too |
| 22:52.40 | Arrowmaster | perty sure i have a level 20 one |
| 22:52.40 | Tinyboom | still hoping for historian to add repair cost :p people would look at it and cry:p think of all the emo warriors we would have:p |
| 22:52.40 | [Ammo] | after 4 hours on him |
| 22:52.52 | Ozguli | lol |
| 22:53.06 | Ozguli | but they're emo anyway... a skill to cut themselves |
| 22:53.13 | RaydenUni | <Xinhuan> how does jump counter work btw? <-- it's not based on actual jumps. if you click jump while in the air it increaes |
| 22:54.02 | Xinhuan | attempted jumps then |
| 22:54.43 | RaydenUni | i think it just sees if you clicked the jump key |
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| 22:55.40 | RaydenUni | wowaceupdater has 1111 entries |
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| 22:56.32 | steev64 | nice |
| 22:56.34 | steev64 | getting up there |
| 22:57.14 | winkiller | !point 2v2 1500 |
| 22:57.19 | aestil | no class QQ's as much as the warlocks in our guild. |
| 22:57.21 | winkiller | !points 1500 |
| 22:57.21 | Xinhuan | 1500 arena points require 2963(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 22:57.29 | winkiller | !rating 1500 |
| 22:57.29 | Xinhuan | 1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:57.41 | aestil | its like 'hey we are attemptinga new boss, lets get an imp for the tank' 'OH NOES MY DPS WILL GO DOWN!!!!?!?!?!' |
| 22:58.21 | thul | hmm, how is balnazzar abbrivated? :-P |
| 22:58.42 | thul | !vs eu balnazzar thyve eu balnazzar haplo |
| 22:59.42 | ThraeBot | thul: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 23:00.16 | thul | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:01.18 | Cyrez | !vs us tanaris hado us tanaris evademoney |
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| 23:02.18 | Pkekyo| | how does the block value --> shield slam formula work? |
| 23:03.05 | ThraeBot | Cyrez: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 23:03.23 | Cyrez | o_0 |
| 23:03.44 | steev64 | time to head home |
| 23:04.04 | thul | i don't get ThraeBot |
| 23:05.30 | thul | !help |
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| 23:08.01 | Pkekyo| | what's the bast way to tank the ZA gauntlet event? (as a warrior) |
| 23:08.26 | aestil | is there a version of the original fallout game that you can just d/l and play for free somewhere? |
| 23:08.35 | aestil | is it old enough to be like freeware basically? |
| 23:08.51 | winkiller | wow, recount at 40MB after some AVs :P |
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| 23:09.52 | NeoTron | recount is pretty out of control |
| 23:10.14 | JoshBorke | recount was never meant to be small =D |
| 23:10.16 | NeoTron | I've noticed significant perform,ance degradations if I keep it going for a night of raiding (it seems to baloon both its own and Ace2's memory usage) |
| 23:10.25 | NeoTron | true |
| 23:10.52 | NeoTron | but for whatever reason it will detoriate performance, maybe related to the new micro-gc's in 2.3 |
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| 23:11.13 | Xinhuan | can't you turn off half the stuff it records? |
| 23:11.51 | NeoTron | although not 100% sure I believe it is the cause for the Ace2 balooning (really should do a run w/o it and see what happens) |
| 23:13.40 | NeoTron | aestil: if your locks are not affliction, I can't say I blame them... |
| 23:14.07 | buu | aestil: DUDE. |
| 23:14.08 | buu | YOU ARE |
| 23:14.10 | buu | HA HA. |
| 23:14.10 | aestil | NeoTron: i can. its BS. we kill bosses. |
| 23:14.20 | aestil | everyone does their part. |
| 23:14.27 | aestil | buu: some rogue in pandora ganked me. |
| 23:14.29 | buu | aestil: Dude, 5/6, 3/4 |
| 23:14.30 | aestil | i was pretty pissed. |
| 23:14.35 | NeoTron | 15% DPS drop from a top DPSer is significant |
| 23:14.36 | buu | aestil: Yes, wel,l apparently they're pretty bitter. |
| 23:14.41 | NeoTron | 700 health typically is not |
| 23:14.47 | aestil | buu: 5/6 3/4? |
| 23:14.55 | buu | aestil: Yup. |
| 23:15.05 | aestil | NeoTron: except that it is when it matters, like learning new fights. |
| 23:15.12 | NeoTron | again though |
| 23:15.18 | NeoTron | most NEW fights it doesn't matter in |
| 23:15.33 | aestil | NeoTron: exactly, and they dont' use the imp on most fights either. |
| 23:15.39 | NeoTron | putting a destro lock on imp bitch duty probaly reduces their DPS by moer than the straight 15% too due to gimp grouping |
| 23:15.43 | aestil | nor on most new fights. |
| 23:15.54 | NeoTron | if you want an imp bitch, have a lock spec affliction |
| 23:15.56 | aestil | QQ moar. it doesn't matter. |
| 23:16.06 | aestil | we don't do it on more than 1 or 2 fights in teh game. |
| 23:16.15 | aestil | we don't do it if we know the fight and really don't need it. |
| 23:16.23 | NeoTron | only fight where all lock go imp in my guild is Naj'entus |
| 23:16.27 | aestil | they are QQing over their dps on pulls which we will most certainly wipe. |
| 23:16.41 | aestil | najentus we probably used it. |
| 23:16.45 | buu | aestil: If you make a destro lock go imp he loses way more than 15% dps and he wastes like 21 talent points. It's pretty lame. |
| 23:16.46 | aestil | 1 shot the boss our first time looking at him though. |
| 23:17.00 | NeoTron | out of curiosity though, what fights? |
| 23:17.03 | aestil | buu: orly? for learning a new boss which we will most certainly wipe on? |
| 23:17.13 | buu | aestil: You mean where you need maximal sustained dps? |
| 23:17.15 | aestil | 4th boss in hyjal. |
| 23:17.26 | NeoTron | ok azgalor is one of the few I would except |
| 23:17.28 | aestil | buu: no i mean where the longer the tank stays alive the more we learn. |
| 23:17.41 | NeoTron | shammy for GoA, warrior for commanding shout, lock for imp all good in that fight |
| 23:17.48 | NeoTron | pally for FR might help too |
| 23:17.51 | buu | Pah. |
| 23:17.58 | aestil | look, its bullshit. |
| 23:17.59 | aestil | bullshit. |
| 23:18.03 | NeoTron | he has insane burst dps capabilities |
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| 23:18.09 | NeoTron | but still, you have no aff locks at all? |
| 23:18.10 | durcyn | azgalor is garbage, the only real DPS reace t6 encounters are bloodboil and gorefiend |
| 23:18.13 | buu | I would love to see a place where 700 hp from an imp matters. |
| 23:18.14 | durcyn | race* |
| 23:18.25 | aestil | they qq so much. put the imp on the tank 'but my dps' ' we dont' fucking care about your dps right now, jsut do it' 'blah blah waaaahhhaahh' |
| 23:18.37 | NeoTron | buu: I think our 20k hp druid was down below 1000k health at least once or twice on azgalor last night |
| 23:18.42 | aestil | you'd probably love to see a place where the 1k health from fort matters? |
| 23:18.43 | NeoTron | err below 1k health |
| 23:18.45 | buu | NeoTron: I want your tank. |
| 23:18.48 | NeoTron | and she had an imp imp |
| 23:19.00 | aestil | its bullshit. this is a game of added up bonuses. |
| 23:19.06 | aestil | sure, the imp doesn't seem like alot. |
| 23:19.10 | buu | aestil: Get someone to spec affliction then. |
| 23:19.12 | NeoTron | azgalor is again one of the rare fights where I'm all with you on the imp duty |
| 23:19.22 | NeoTron | naj'entus is another |
| 23:19.29 | aestil | buu onceagain, bullshit, i don't want them to respec for a few fights. |
| 23:19.34 | NeoTron | and both gorefiend and bloodboil too I'd say |
| 23:19.38 | aestil | or for a few pulls as we learn the fight. |
| 23:19.46 | buu | I should roll a mage so nobody ever expects me to help a group =[ |
| 23:19.51 | NeoTron | aestil: well. one aff lock with shadow embrace is worth it |
| 23:19.56 | aestil | no one cares about the lock's dmg on that fight. |
| 23:20.09 | aestil | on those pulls we expect to die, no one cares. |
| 23:20.09 | NeoTron | shadow embrace is undervalued but in a game of marginals, it accounts for perhaps another HoT on the tank |
| 23:20.15 | aestil | imp helps us take longer to die. |
| 23:20.40 | NeoTron | hyjal learning in general benefits from ultra-maximized tank groups because if the tank died you just wasted 20-30m |
| 23:20.51 | aestil | if we had someone be an 'imp bitch' i could understand it, but when we get to a fight where its usefull, and then they QQ and '/roll' to see who has to do it, i'm disgusted. |
| 23:20.57 | buu | Hahahaha |
| 23:20.59 | aestil | NeoTron: exactly. |
| 23:21.02 | buu | You're a spriest |
| 23:21.08 | buu | You never have to do anything to help people |
| 23:21.15 | aestil | yes i do. |
| 23:21.17 | buu | "lewl vt done" |
| 23:21.20 | buu | LIES. |
| 23:21.22 | aestil | i occasionaly have to gimp my dmg for VE. |
| 23:21.24 | aestil | and so fucking what. |
| 23:21.26 | aestil | if i did, i would |
| 23:21.40 | buu | Pssh. Disbelief. |
| 23:21.43 | NeoTron | mind control a necromancer in hyjal and buff melee dps => <3 |
| 23:21.45 | buu | Raids are only about personal dps |
| 23:21.52 | aestil | its a fucking trash wipe pull. [this 4th boss, but in general] dont' bitch about a pull where we will wipe, and your dps will be less than what it could have been. |
| 23:21.52 | NeoTron | not to mention it's not summining stuff and spamming shadow bolts on the raid |
| 23:22.10 | aestil | one of our stupid SP's does that. |
| 23:22.14 | aestil | his dmg is shit though. |
| 23:22.16 | NeoTron | buu: people that, in general, believe that are not the kind of people that get kills faster |
| 23:22.23 | thul | dps ftw. |
| 23:22.25 | aestil | he'd be better off doing VT and regening mana. |
| 23:22.39 | NeoTron | for trash, mind controlling is incredibly useful |
| 23:22.43 | aestil | hyjal trash is cake. |
| 23:22.46 | NeoTron | much more so than some pitiful single target dps |
| 23:22.56 | aestil | tab dot for the win. just pretend its AV. |
| 23:23.06 | buu | Hah |
| 23:23.08 | aestil | after the necro's are dead, or mostly dead anyways. |
| 23:23.23 | aestil | the hyjal trash is on lock down. the bosses are on lockdown. |
| 23:23.30 | aestil | just need a few nights of learning archimonde. |
| 23:23.36 | NeoTron | we recently made an effort to optimize the locks |
| 23:23.43 | NeoTron | right now we have 2 aff, 2 destro and 1 demo |
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| 23:23.50 | NeoTron | the 2 destro are theer to keep ISB up |
| 23:23.55 | aestil | it doesn't seem that bad. we've pulled him like 10 times now, and we had 72% wipe until someone hit soulshatter instead of the floating item. |
| 23:24.01 | NeoTron | aff there for imp duty and shadow embrace |
| 23:24.04 | aestil | wow, you roll with 5 locks? |
| 23:24.10 | aestil | we have 2. |
| 23:24.12 | buu | NeoTron: I need to make my locks do some more dps. |
| 23:24.20 | NeoTron | we have 5 locks, we don't always use them all |
| 23:24.21 | aestil | buu: did you kill leo? |
| 23:24.25 | buu | aestil: sure. |
| 23:24.28 | buu | He's cake. |
| 23:24.30 | fridgid | locks have stupid stupid stupid dps potential |
| 23:24.32 | aestil | how's vashj? |
| 23:24.33 | buu | Easiest boss in there imo. |
| 23:24.38 | buu | aestil: We didn't bother =[ |
| 23:24.45 | aestil | lurker is easiest, followed by morrogrim. |
| 23:24.46 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/ulpq1jqizo4ec |
| 23:24.50 | NeoTron | last night |
| 23:24.55 | buu | aestil: Heh, no wai, leo is way easier than morrogrim. |
| 23:25.17 | aestil | nah. morrogrim is a cake walk. flk is pretty easy too. would be easier if we had a reliable bear tank, but we don't. |
| 23:25.19 | buu | Lurker isn't actually a boss fight. |
| 23:25.27 | buu | aestil: Well, flk is pretty useless. |
| 23:25.31 | NeoTron | Naj'entus clearly shows why locks not specced for it dislike using imps. http://wowwebstats.com/ulpq1jqizo4ec?s=13470-13849 |
| 23:25.37 | buu | aestil: We had like 5 people die on him in the first minute. |
| 23:26.02 | aestil | NeoTron: i jus tdon't care. |
| 23:26.15 | NeoTron | and azgalor attempt 1 shows why that is a fight where optimize tank group is a good idea... |
| 23:26.23 | aestil | NeoTron: if we kill a boss, and we needed, or didn't need, but used an imp, shut the fuck up about your imp and your dps. |
| 23:26.27 | Xinhuan | .. who the hell cares about these trash bosses ~_~ |
| 23:26.36 | buu | Xinhuan: Aestil does! |
| 23:26.39 | Xinhuan | its like arguing about the best spec for Lucifron |
| 23:26.47 | buu | Who the fuck was it that said leo was hard anyway. |
| 23:26.59 | buu | "zomg you can't say leo is easy until you've killed him!" |
| 23:27.02 | aestil | uh, i don't care about these trash bosses, i want the locks to shut there stupid bitch mouths and just play. |
| 23:27.18 | aestil | buu: *shrugs* i think leo is the hardest of those trash bosses. |
| 23:27.26 | aestil | second woudl be hydross, the rest are all about the same. |
| 23:27.28 | buu | It was pretty funny.. we get leo after like 3 or 4 tries, a few people cheer on vent and we move on. Nobody even bothered with a kill shot. |
| 23:27.37 | NeoTron | frankly Leo got a lot easier when they changed +heal => +dmg |
| 23:27.47 | aestil | NeoTron: very true, i havn't tried since then. |
| 23:27.48 | buu | NeoTron: Yeah, I'd think that would help. |
| 23:27.51 | NeoTron | getting healers to kill their demons WAS one of the major hardships |
| 23:27.57 | NeoTron | now they have more than enough spell dmg |
| 23:27.58 | buu | NeoTron: Heh, the only person we lost to shadows were our MT |
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| 23:28.01 | buu | Oh and a hunter once. |
| 23:28.10 | buu | That was pretty awesome. |
| 23:28.11 | aestil | buu: yeah, i forgot about that change. so yeah, he's probably stupid easy now. |
| 23:28.23 | thul | rogues :-( |
| 23:28.25 | aestil | buu: before that, it was pretty hard. |
| 23:28.27 | buu | aestil: He's trivial. |
| 23:28.30 | NeoTron | I love when a hunter kills his shadow and then goes "WTF" and gets mind controlled |
| 23:28.31 | buu | Srsly easy. |
| 23:28.34 | NeoTron | because the pet got the killing blow |
| 23:28.37 | buu | NeoTron: Heh, yeah, I saw that. |
| 23:28.55 | aestil | good luck on vashj. it'll be nice to have some horde raiding activity. |
| 23:29.06 | aestil | we are trying gore somebody tonigh tin BT> |
| 23:29.36 | Chompers | in python, how would i make create a user defined list, then populate it with values? |
| 23:29.47 | NeoTron | Our new mage recruit did some sick DPS |
| 23:30.04 | NeoTron | whomever said mage aoe is a thing of the past didn't see this guy pull out 4700 DPS on a trash pull |
| 23:30.14 | thul | Chompers: elaborate |
| 23:30.18 | Chompers | i think it inclues a loop defining the number of values required |
| 23:30.20 | Chompers | but not sure |
| 23:30.36 | Chompers | i want to create a list of names, the number is set by the user |
| 23:30.50 | aestil | NeoTron: we had mage in hyjal last night average 2200 dps for the night. |
| 23:30.51 | thul | how many names, that number? |
| 23:30.52 | Chompers | a dynamic array i guess |
| 23:30.58 | NeoTron | really cool thing that I was excited about last night is that my felguard only died once |
| 23:31.01 | Chompers | yeah, the user defines it at the start |
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| 23:31.10 | Chompers | then populates them all |
| 23:31.12 | thul | ok |
| 23:31.19 | aestil | what kind of dmg should i expect from a felgaurd lock? |
| 23:31.27 | aestil | lets assume he has the appropriate gear. |
| 23:31.32 | thul | aestil: I did 650 dps average in ZA with my rogue :-P |
| 23:31.38 | WobWork | You will melt face.. oh wait |
| 23:31.39 | NeoTron | aestil: yeah that's not too hard. one of the locks averaged 1749 DPS and that includes 2xBT kills where dps would be a lot lower |
| 23:31.41 | WobWork | wrong class |
| 23:31.41 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad shaytan us kel'thuzad huklos |
| 23:31.42 | ThraeBot | Osstia: shaytan vs huklos! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? huklos is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes huklos 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit! |
| 23:31.55 | NeoTron | aestil: give me a boss and I can give you a link... top tier damage overall |
| 23:31.58 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad shaytan us kel'thuzad huklos |
| 23:31.59 | ThraeBot | Osstia: I just said that 17s ago. |
| 23:32.36 | aestil | lets just go through hyjal. |
| 23:32.39 | aestil | rage 1st. |
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| 23:32.57 | aestil | my felgaurd lock did 904 dps 7th overal, 259k dmg |
| 23:33.06 | NeoTron | last night I got 1439 DPS, second behind a destro lock at 1741 DPS |
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| 23:33.15 | NeoTron | 332473 odmg.. |
| 23:33.23 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/ulpq1jqizo4ec?s=2074-2319 |
| 23:33.28 | aestil | how much did your pet do? |
| 23:33.41 | aestil | his pet was maybe dead. |
| 23:33.43 | NeoTron | pet tends to do about 200-240 DPS |
| 23:33.49 | aestil | only did 7810 dmg |
| 23:33.58 | NeoTron | 237 DPs in that fight |
| 23:34.07 | NeoTron | if the pet is dead, his DPS will A LOT lower |
| 23:34.14 | NeoTron | but it should never be dead or at least stay dead |
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| 23:34.25 | aestil | on anetheron he was 4th. 1272 dps. |
| 23:34.27 | NeoTron | every FG lock needs a dismiss/resummon macro (they come back with full health) |
| 23:34.36 | aestil | 286k overall dmg. |
| 23:34.57 | NeoTron | 295 at third (I wear 230 shadow resist on that fight to alleviate healing) |
| 23:35.04 | NeoTron | 1295 DPS even |
| 23:35.12 | aestil | ok, so thats close. |
| 23:35.13 | NeoTron | at 354k |
| 23:35.30 | aestil | i had a rogue do 1587 dps and 396k dmg. |
| 23:35.48 | aestil | kaz'rogal |
| 23:35.58 | NeoTron | #1 at Kaz'rogal, 1245 DPS, 259k dmg (again wearing SR but only resisted like one mark) |
| 23:35.59 | aestil | 4th overal, 210k dmg 1097 dmg. |
| 23:36.33 | NeoTron | 2nd, 406k. 1004 DPS on Azgalor |
| 23:36.54 | NeoTron | was a sloppy kill - the add tanks died off and the adds went too out TM |
| 23:36.55 | NeoTron | MT |
| 23:36.55 | aestil | he was 7th, 90% presence. |
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| 23:37.11 | NeoTron | in the end I think she had like 3 doomguards on her + azgalor. not quite sure how she lived but she did |
| 23:37.13 | aestil | 240k dmg, 601 dps. i think he was the imp. |
| 23:37.13 | Xinhuan | has anyone compared the effectiveness of arcane spec vs fire spec since patch 2.3? |
| 23:37.27 | aestil | he was imp and CoS i think. |
| 23:37.39 | NeoTron | as a note, I died on Azgalor, but had a SS and resummoned pet with full buffs |
| 23:37.46 | NeoTron | however I myself lacked everything but salvaction after that |
| 23:37.50 | aestil | i was 3rd on that fight, didn't remember to put any SR gear on. |
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| 23:38.18 | aestil | ok. not too bad. he does pretty reasonably good then. |
| 23:38.32 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: arcane seems to win |
| 23:38.36 | Amadeo | Guild Banks on the Armory? that's weird |
| 23:38.43 | NeoTron | mage last night is specced 61/0/0 |
| 23:39.04 | buu | aaaaaaaaaestil you sux. |
| 23:39.04 | thul | hmm, good warrior lvling/talentbuild guides? :-P |
| 23:39.10 | aestil | i did about 250k dmg more than the guilds best geared SP, and i didn't go to the vashj kill, and he did. |
| 23:39.12 | NeoTron | 1885 DPS for the night, 2nd overall damage |
| 23:39.22 | aestil | so my precesnes is 78% and his is 100%. |
| 23:39.44 | NeoTron | honestly I've not seen a mage perform as well as he did compared to our loks |
| 23:39.47 | buu | NeoTron: Zowie. |
| 23:40.43 | NeoTron | should note that due to historical reasons we've always used a lot of caster/lock DPS |
| 23:40.45 | Xinhuan | so buu, the EJ irc channel isn't particularly useful when all you get is blanket "spec fire or get out" comments |
| 23:40.51 | NeoTron | our melee DPS typically didn't measure up |
| 23:41.06 | aestil | Xinhuan: currently i believe arcane is the best overall. |
| 23:41.38 | NeoTron | the spell hit and lack of threat from arcane is by itself pretty amazing |
| 23:42.11 | buu | aestil: It's not. |
| 23:42.15 | Xinhuan | well is there any supporting proof |
| 23:42.21 | Xinhuan | that arcane or fire is better? |
| 23:42.23 | buu | Xinhuan: Yes, but it's been rehased endlessly. |
| 23:42.35 | buu | Xinhuan: They're not going to redo all of the calulcations every time someone wanders by and asks. |
| 23:42.43 | buu | Xinhuan: They're probably easily available on the forums. |
| 23:42.57 | aestil | from what i can see, its much better to have arcane mage with SP |
| 23:43.00 | Xinhuan | as far as i can see, their last 5 days of conversation has no mention of mages |
| 23:43.01 | NeoTron | buu: show me the numbers |
| 23:43.01 | buu | Xinhuan: See, the thing is, arcane only was the best because of the MSD and TLC abuse. |
| 23:43.05 | buu | Which got nerfed. |
| 23:43.09 | buu | From what I understand. |
| 23:43.24 | NeoTron | our mages tried fire |
| 23:43.25 | Arrowmaster | most of our mages are arcane |
| 23:43.28 | NeoTron | arcane is still better |
| 23:43.30 | Arrowmaster | and they dont use MSD |
| 23:43.34 | Xinhuan | except that i frequently top damage meters without a MSD? |
| 23:43.36 | NeoTron | another note being arcnae = more likely to get CoS |
| 23:43.38 | Arrowmaster | didnt even use it before the nerf |
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| 23:43.44 | NeoTron | CoE isn't going to be up there with 1-2 fire mages |
| 23:44.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah our firemage bitches about that |
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| 23:44.36 | NeoTron | think you pretty much need 2 good fire mages to make CoE worth it |
| 23:44.48 | NeoTron | and even so on trash you'll still be lucky to see it |
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| 23:44.59 | Arrowmaster | atleast 2 |
| 23:45.15 | Arrowmaster | because its not worth it for 1 raid member doing fire/frost |
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| 23:45.37 | NeoTron | annother reason why I prefer arcane mages |
| 23:45.44 | CIA-8 | 03adirelle * r56079 10PitBull/RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua: |
| 23:45.45 | CIA-8 | PitBull |
| 23:45.47 | CIA-8 | - added specific range check for hunters. |
| 23:45.54 | NeoTron | still pretty bizarre to have a 61/0/0 mage :) |
| 23:46.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah with CoS it effects warlocks/spriests/arc mages/hunters |
| 23:46.33 | NeoTron | boomkins! |
| 23:46.33 | Xinhuan | all i read is "99% of the people don't know how to play" and i see no supporting arguments or WWS information |
| 23:46.47 | dylanm | If you're going arcane I don't see why not |
| 23:46.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah boomkins too |
| 23:46.50 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I can give you supporting information :P |
| 23:46.52 | Arrowmaster | we raid with a boomkin |
| 23:47.07 | Arrowmaster | our mages laugh at the stupidity of most mages |
| 23:47.19 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: ooh do you have WWS? |
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| 23:47.38 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: we raid with one too and I believe she's way the hell below where she should be... |
| 23:47.57 | NeoTron | on Naj'entus she barely beat the MT (MT was 2/3 of her dmg dealt which is pathetic |
| 23:47.58 | Arrowmaster | and how most say that arcane sucks with MSD nerf, and that fire has mana problems when all the mages bitching about it always use molten armor instead of mage armor |
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| 23:48.50 | Arrowmaster | there have fun |
| 23:48.57 | thul | hmm, what kind of spell interrupts does wars got? |
| 23:49.15 | Arrowmaster | pummel, sheildbash? |
| 23:49.20 | Arrowmaster | both on shared cooldown |
| 23:49.24 | Arrowmaster | its sheild something |
| 23:49.33 | Arrowmaster | other than that they have a stun |
| 23:49.39 | Arrowmaster | well prot warriors do |
| 23:50.01 | DreadWingKnight | shield bash |
| 23:50.03 | DreadWingKnight | shield slam |
| 23:50.14 | DreadWingKnight | and one stun hit |
| 23:50.19 | NightHawkAtWork | shield slam isn't an interrupt |
| 23:50.23 | Arrowmaster | thought only one of those inturpted |
| 23:50.31 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 23:50.32 | NightHawkAtWork | concussion blow is a stun, which interrupts spells if it works, obviously |
| 23:50.34 | thul | so, other than prot? |
| 23:50.38 | thul | if you are fury? |
| 23:50.41 | NightHawkAtWork | but the only true "interrupt" abilities are shield bash and pummel |
| 23:50.45 | Arrowmaster | pummel |
| 23:50.50 | NightHawkAtWork | which are trained, and available to all warriors |
| 23:51.00 | RaydenUni | is death an aggro wipe? |
| 23:51.05 | Arrowmaster | but you need a sheild equiped to shield bash |
| 23:51.09 | Arrowmaster | RaydenUni: yes |
| 23:51.13 | RaydenUni | how odd |
| 23:51.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Arrowmaster: well, obviously ;) |
| 23:51.29 | Arrowmaster | you havent heard stories about warlocks on broodlord? |
| 23:51.31 | JoshBorke | RaydenUni: yep =D sure is =D |
| 23:51.32 | RaydenUni | i died fighting R&J last night, got battle rezzed and then died from getting aggro from Julianne |
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| 23:52.05 | NightHawkAtWork | like, she physically walked over and hit you, and you died? or did she cast her holy fire whatever on you? |
| 23:52.11 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: sure she just didn't randomly spell pwn you? |
| 23:52.13 | RaydenUni | i had aggro |
| 23:52.15 | NightHawkAtWork | as the latter is randomly targeteteed, i believe |
| 23:52.15 | RaydenUni | pretty sure |
| 23:52.21 | RaydenUni | i was her target more than momentarily |
| 23:52.24 | RaydenUni | i know that is random |
| 23:52.42 | Xinhuan | buu, i'm not quite sure what you are trying to achieve by pasting my words in the other channel |
| 23:52.43 | Hotphoenix | could someone sort out a minor bug in bartender, i was a shadowpriest and set a shadowform stance, respeced holy and when i get spirit of redemption it swaps to the shadowform set which doesn't seem logical |
| 23:52.49 | RaydenUni | i don't think i was even attacking her, i was attacking R |
| 23:52.54 | RaydenUni | so it was just odd |
| 23:53.07 | buu | Xinhuan: Laughter mostly. |
| 23:53.22 | Xinhuan | i see, at my expense? |
| 23:53.54 | Arzach-DB-EU | death is an aggro wipe, but if you heal yourself a lot you could get healing aggro |
| 23:54.04 | Arzach-DB-EU | that's theory ofc |
| 23:54.20 | Jaxon | Does anyone happen to have a link to a WWS report of a Black Temple or Mount Hyjal fight that includes a Fury Warrior? |
| 23:54.29 | Arzach-DB-EU | btw, death is an aggro reset for R&J too |
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| 23:55.05 | Jaxon | And possibly even a link to that Fury warrior's armory page? |
| 23:55.05 | Arzach-DB-EU | I mean, when R. dies and both comes up again, they have a clean aggro list, so even a curse can doom you |
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| 23:56.27 | leech2k | Good afternoon all. |
| 23:56.53 | leech2k | Is there anyway to track downloads from svn? |
| 23:59.18 | hyperChipmunk | ...says a guy named leech2k |
| 23:59.26 | leech2k | lol |
| 23:59.28 | Antiarc | Jaxon: We had a 33/28 DPS warrior if you want that |
| 23:59.39 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 23:59.39 | hyperChipmunk | forgive us if we're a bit wary >8) |
| 23:59.44 | leech2k | Just want to see how many times my mod has been downloaded. |
| 23:59.50 | NivFreak | who wants to place bets on WWS being completely broken in 2.4 |
| 23:59.52 | NivFreak | and not fixed |
