| 00:00.25 | hyperChipmunk | leech2k: I believe the only way is to pay kaelten a million dollars for http logs |
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| 00:00.34 | leech2k | lol |
| 00:01.58 | leech2k | I have thought about writing a WWS clone in php. So I can run it on my own server. |
| 00:02.12 | leech2k | There is an older version that is gpl I could start with. |
| 00:02.27 | Arrowmaster | the old version lacks many features |
| 00:02.29 | leech2k | But, meh, I am to lazy. |
| 00:02.47 | leech2k | It would just be a starting point. It is rather simple actually. |
| 00:02.54 | Xinhuan | any effort you spend on it now will just be wasted when 2.4 hits |
| 00:03.07 | leech2k | What changes in 2.4 to do with logging? |
| 00:03.31 | sancus | completely revamped system |
| 00:03.32 | Xinhuan | they are changing the entire combat log system, and combat logging will log in CSV form for easier parsing |
| 00:03.40 | leech2k | o nice |
| 00:04.06 | aestil | i wonder if there will be a new wws at that point. |
| 00:04.12 | leech2k | toss that toward a little mysql+php |
| 00:04.15 | leech2k | could be really easy |
| 00:04.15 | aestil | cause wws as it is, is about broken. |
| 00:04.19 | Xinhuan | there might be, given that you get GUIDs for every unit |
| 00:04.22 | leech2k | ya |
| 00:04.32 | leech2k | pom and same named mobs and stuff like that is whacked |
| 00:04.34 | Xinhuan | you could get more detailed stuff theortically |
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| 00:04.53 | Xinhuan | but we don't know if the GUIDs are consistent across everyone in the same raid |
| 00:05.02 | leech2k | hmm |
| 00:05.26 | leech2k | might be a good time to start writing that wws replacement as soon as 2.4 hits ptr |
| 00:06.40 | NeoTron | PoM today isn't trackable |
| 00:07.04 | NeoTron | unclear if the 2.4 change will change that? |
| 00:07.12 | leech2k | Prayer of Mending curreently is not trackable. But, it might be if they improve logging. |
| 00:07.40 | leech2k | Who knows. |
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| 00:08.11 | thul | hmm, sine 2h warriors need to worry less about hit, and can stack more ap and crit, won't that effect their dps positively? but not enough?= |
| 00:09.17 | snowflake_ | hi i dunno in which thread i should report this error message so i report it here: [2007/11/26 23:27:48-669-x1]: AceComm-2.0-49773 (Ace2):344: bad argument #1 to 'string_char' (invalid value) |
| 00:09.18 | snowflake_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.40 | leech2k | So I have been out of the ace seen for awhile. Is there a new Ace2 replacement now? Like rock or something? |
| 00:09.50 | Civrock | snowflake: I get the same and posted it in the Libraries forum already. |
| 00:10.22 | WobWork | leech2k: Ace3 is in development and in beta |
| 00:10.35 | WobWork | Rock is ckknight's framework |
| 00:10.57 | WobWork | for his addons |
| 00:11.05 | leech2k | hmm |
| 00:11.08 | snowflake_ | kk civrock |
| 00:11.17 | snowflake_ | so byebye nice evening dudes |
| 00:11.38 | WobWork | ... we're nice evening dudes? |
| 00:11.56 | leech2k | Are they both backward compatable? |
| 00:12.12 | WobWork | clearly a euphemism |
| 00:12.32 | WobWork | leech2k: to a certain degree, and not |
| 00:12.57 | WobWork | in that there's no need for compatibility if it still works |
| 00:13.05 | aestil | i want 2.4 to hit the PTR. thats gonna be exciting times. |
| 00:13.17 | Borked|Raider | Anyone that can help me make a little #!/bin/sh script. It need to create a folder at a given path if it not exist. then move/rename a file and put it in the folder. Its the if not exist thing i dont know how to do |
| 00:13.19 | WobWork | I wonder how many addons 2.4 will break |
| 00:13.20 | aestil | all our dmg meter's will go borked, maybe we'll get an exciting one. |
| 00:13.24 | Arrowmaster | ive been having 'issues' with some parts of rock though |
| 00:13.41 | JoshBorke | WobWork: i wouldn't say rock is "ckknight's framework for his addons", i'd say more of "ckknight's framework, which he uses in all his addons" |
| 00:13.50 | aestil | Xinhuan: shouldn' the new CSV event type combat logs make for smaller logs, less data, and therefore recount type mods that tend to be less of a drag on the system? |
| 00:13.52 | WobWork | JoshBorke: No. |
| 00:13.59 | Arrowmaster | something other than ckk addons use rock? |
| 00:14.00 | JoshBorke | WobWork: no.? |
| 00:14.04 | WobWork | It's ckknight's framework for his addons =) |
| 00:14.05 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: yes, prat |
| 00:14.10 | aestil | flexbar2? |
| 00:14.14 | JoshBorke | and flexbar2 |
| 00:14.15 | Xinhuan | the amount of data is more, not less |
| 00:14.18 | Arrowmaster | since when does prat use rock |
| 00:14.21 | Xinhuan | its just that you use less processing |
| 00:14.25 | WobWork | He puts in code in the base framework to help his addons |
| 00:14.29 | Xinhuan | you no longer have to parse the combat logs to extract out each arg |
| 00:14.36 | aestil | true than Xinhuan, less processing = better. memory is cheap, cpu cycles arent? |
| 00:14.41 | Xinhuan | the UI will give you each arg directly instead |
| 00:14.45 | WobWork | Just because others use the framework doesn't make that claim invalid |
| 00:15.22 | JoshBorke | WobWork: so? he put things in the base Ace2 libraries for his mods |
| 00:15.27 | JoshBorke | WobWork: doesn't make Ace2 his framework |
| 00:15.31 | WobWork | No |
| 00:15.41 | WobWork | I said "Rock is ckknight's framework for his addons" |
| 00:15.51 | aestil | wow, if this isn't the newest incarnation of the stupiest debate every. |
| 00:15.51 | WobWork | Which it is |
| 00:16.03 | WobWork | It's all semantics |
| 00:16.17 | WobWork | stupid semantics, mind you, but when have semantics -not- been stupid? |
| 00:16.27 | aestil | they can be important. |
| 00:16.32 | JoshBorke | i'll semantics you! |
| 00:16.39 | leech2k | Sorry guys didn't meean to restart any flames :-) |
| 00:16.42 | JoshBorke | important is up for debate |
| 00:16.49 | NeoTron | It's an addon framework written by ckknight that is, from a syntactic point of view, a derivation of Ace2 |
| 00:16.52 | NeoTron | he just so ahppens |
| 00:16.55 | JoshBorke | leech2k: it's ok, i was looking for an avenue to debate with WobWork |
| 00:16.56 | NeoTron | happens to use them for his own addons |
| 00:17.07 | leech2k | JoshBorke: lol |
| 00:17.20 | JoshBorke | because WobWork WON'T GIEF SPLUT |
| 00:17.25 | NeoTron | speaking of ckknight, he stopped hanging around here? |
| 00:17.35 | Ellipsis | his computer is dead atm |
| 00:17.45 | aestil | Ellipsis: ima gquit someday! |
| 00:17.52 | Ellipsis | wait, why? |
| 00:18.00 | Ellipsis | you love your guild o.O |
| 00:18.05 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: because he's n00b |
| 00:18.08 | aestil | nah, i hate them all. |
| 00:18.22 | aestil | JoshBorke: we all can't be working on mag. |
| 00:18.29 | leech2k | So I have a slightly out dated mod that is in use by a good number of people. Should I stick with Ace2 for awhile longer or start looking into Ace3 or Rock? |
| 00:18.30 | JoshBorke | aestil: ouch, that's harsh |
| 00:18.37 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 00:18.44 | JoshBorke | leech2k: i nominate Ace2 |
| 00:18.47 | JoshBorke | leech2k: but rock is stable |
| 00:18.54 | sdouble | since it's a rock |
| 00:19.00 | aestil | leech2k: rock / ace2 similar. ace3 isn't really out yet. |
| 00:19.03 | JoshBorke | leech2k: the developers don't like any Ace3 addons being distributed |
| 00:19.08 | aestil | wait a while longer for ace3 dev. |
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| 00:19.29 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56080 10Mirror/Mirror.lua: |
| 00:19.31 | buu | aestil: Everyone else hates your guild apparently. |
| 00:19.33 | CIA-8 | Mirror: |
| 00:19.34 | leech2k | Sounds good. Thanks all. No I have to finally figure out this gui stuff in Ace2 :-) |
| 00:19.37 | CIA-8 | - should work properly when tooltip has no owner. Not sure when that would happen, but someone reported it |
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| 00:19.56 | aestil | buu: *shrugs* cause we raid 11.5 hours a week and are ahead of guilds that raid almost twice that? probably. |
| 00:20.08 | buu | aestil: No, it's more the camping and griefing. |
| 00:20.21 | aestil | thats stupid. people in all guilds camp and grief. |
| 00:20.29 | aestil | its the weakest lamest excuse. |
| 00:20.40 | aestil | its a freaking pvp server. it happens. |
| 00:20.59 | aestil | the horde in sketish make a daily event out of camping people. |
| 00:21.11 | buu | aestil: I wish I could kill them. |
| 00:21.14 | aestil | when someone in my guild whiines about it, i tell them 'qq moar' |
| 00:21.31 | aestil | pvp happening on a pvp server? wha? |
| 00:21.38 | aestil | it hardly impacts my play. |
| 00:21.44 | WobWork | leech2k: I nominate Ace2 |
| 00:21.45 | aestil | and i definetly get ganked more than the average lvl 70. |
| 00:21.48 | WobWork | since it's not broken |
| 00:22.21 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 00:22.39 | WobWork | unless you're going to rewrite the entire thing |
| 00:22.48 | Ellipsis | aestil, you are not making your pvp server appeal to me, fyi |
| 00:23.04 | Estil | pvp server is fun |
| 00:23.04 | aestil | Ellipsis: you're never in your life rolling on a pvp server. |
| 00:23.06 | WobWork | So enticing =P |
| 00:23.07 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: you can come to mine |
| 00:23.28 | aestil | Ellipsis: i'd have to promise you 10k g and a premade lvl 70 for you to play on a pvp server, and then you'd just transfer off. |
| 00:23.29 | leech2k | WobWork: Its currently a small mod. With the next update I may double its size though. |
| 00:23.53 | JoshBorke | is double a small mod still a small mod? |
| 00:23.55 | NeoTron | leech2k: from 2 to 4 lines? |
| 00:24.11 | buu | Ellipsis: pvp servers are dumb. |
| 00:24.17 | Ellipsis | aestil: I'd settle for the premade 70 and an epic flier |
| 00:24.21 | buu | I wish I wasn't on one. |
| 00:24.22 | leech2k | NeoTron: well like 150 to 300 so pretty much |
| 00:24.28 | aestil | Ellipsis: and you'd still transfer off. |
| 00:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | Borked|Raider: if [[ -d $dir ]]; then; else makedir -p $dir; fi |
| 00:24.30 | WobWork | leech2k: What does it do? |
| 00:25.06 | leech2k | WobWork: Adds DoTA/UT sounds to bg/pvp |
| 00:25.09 | Borked|Raider | oki hyperChipmunk |
| 00:25.20 | leech2k | I kind of wrote it as a joke originally. |
| 00:25.35 | thul | hmm |
| 00:25.37 | thul | i feel ignored :-P |
| 00:25.38 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, how do i declare the variable dir, asumming $dir is a reference |
| 00:25.39 | leech2k | But now tons of people use it. And they want new features. |
| 00:25.51 | WobWork | leech2k: I'd leave the framework as is then |
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| 00:26.05 | hyperChipmunk | dir=/path/to/a/dir |
| 00:26.13 | WobWork | since what it does probably won't be improved by changing the framework |
| 00:26.23 | leech2k | I joined an AV premade and like 20 people in the raid were using my mod ... I was like wth? |
| 00:26.25 | Borked|Raider | oki :) what is the fi in the first line you posted hyperChipmunk |
| 00:26.28 | hyperChipmunk | or just replace it inline if it's static |
| 00:26.34 | hyperChipmunk | it ends the if |
| 00:26.36 | hyperChipmunk | if...fi |
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| 00:27.19 | Borked|Raider | ahh |
| 00:27.31 | NightHawkAtWork | welcome to bash scripting 101? |
| 00:27.41 | WobWork | damn you leech2k |
| 00:27.46 | leech2k | ? |
| 00:27.48 | WobWork | Now I have Basshunter stuck in my head =( |
| 00:27.56 | leech2k | o dear |
| 00:27.59 | Ellipsis | hot |
| 00:28.04 | leech2k | I think its happening to me now too. |
| 00:28.26 | Ellipsis | argh it's contagious |
| 00:28.31 | WobWork | stupid catchy dota music |
| 00:28.40 | Effah | oh great. |
| 00:28.45 | dylanm | leech2k: Hah. People want the damnedest things don't they... |
| 00:28.46 | JoshBorke | too bad i haven't played DoTa on WC3 |
| 00:28.55 | Effah | Even worse than popcorn |
| 00:29.00 | JoshBorke | i played a version of it on sc =D |
| 00:29.01 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, happen to know the syntax for renameing a file to current date ddmmyyyy-hhmm etc? |
| 00:29.03 | leech2k | dylanm: For sure. |
| 00:29.04 | Effah | Looks like I popped my mirc window up at the wrong time. |
| 00:29.20 | WobWork | JoshBorke: You don't need to play DoTA to get the song stuck in your head |
| 00:29.42 | leech2k | Now I need to figure out how to scrape bg scoreboards for a first blood feature :-) |
| 00:29.42 | JoshBorke | WobWork: true, but having not played DoTA i don't know the song :-D |
| 00:29.47 | fridgid | .....DONT STOP.....BELIEVING.....HOLD ON TO THE FEELIN..... |
| 00:29.56 | Effah | Journey FTW |
| 00:29.58 | Ellipsis | I've never played dota and I know the song by heart :( |
| 00:30.03 | leech2k | I saw a mod that did just that a long time ago... just can't remember the name. |
| 00:30.04 | WobWork | JoshBorke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ-TZk4gPKM |
| 00:30.15 | JoshBorke | WobWork: i won't fall for your tricks! |
| 00:30.22 | WobWork | It's secretly a Rickroll |
| 00:30.25 | WobWork | but swedish |
| 00:30.38 | WobWork | hehe |
| 00:30.41 | fridgid | leekspin imo |
| 00:30.43 | WobWork | the subtitles rhyme too |
| 00:30.45 | leech2k | Seriously I want to find out what lan parties have chicks going to them... |
| 00:30.51 | leech2k | never seen anything like that before. |
| 00:30.54 | Effah | unfortunately now that Journey tune will forever be associated with the Sopranos series finale. |
| 00:31.02 | Ellipsis | <---LAN party attending chick |
| 00:31.10 | Industrial | profit! |
| 00:31.13 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 00:31.16 | Industrial | ! |
| 00:31.18 | Effah | i know plenty of women who go to LANs. |
| 00:31.18 | Industrial | hi! |
| 00:31.23 | hyperChipmunk | mv foofile.txt `date +%m%d%y-%H%M`.txt |
| 00:31.36 | Industrial | wrong window :D? |
| 00:31.37 | Ellipsis | Industrial <3 |
| 00:31.40 | hyperChipmunk | you might want to check the date man |
| 00:31.41 | Industrial | Ellipsis: <3 |
| 00:31.41 | leech2k | I use to host lan parties of 50+ and we never had more than 2 chicks that played. And like 5-10 girlfirends show. |
| 00:31.44 | hyperChipmunk | for the proper syntax |
| 00:31.52 | Effah | .... they usually just play for an hour then drink like fish, though. |
| 00:31.57 | Industrial | Ellipsis: oh oh |
| 00:31.57 | Ellipsis | wait, who's dating men? |
| 00:32.03 | Industrial | ~c eu grim batol seryan |
| 00:32.07 | leech2k | o dear |
| 00:32.10 | Borked|Raider | ok thx hyperChipmunk |
| 00:32.10 | Industrial | doh |
| 00:32.12 | Industrial | !c eu grim batol seryan |
| 00:32.16 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan, Level 64 Troll Hunter (41/14/0). 5045 HP; 4025 Mana; 76 mana regen; 3217 Armour; 1041 AP; 143.100 Melee DPS; 6.68% melee crit; 38 melee hit; 1112 RAP; 209.60 Ranged DPS; 15.80% ranged crit; 38 ranged hit; 8.33% dodge;[[ TBR: 1232 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrw6xs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2n8t5r ][ Updated: Mon Nov 26 15:39:09 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:32.18 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 00:32.29 | hyperChipmunk | i know the %Y at least needs to be capitalized |
| 00:32.31 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 00:32.42 | hyperChipmunk | for YYYY |
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| 00:32.48 | fridgid | <Ellipsis> wait, who's dating men? <<<---lewl |
| 00:32.50 | Ellipsis | Industrial: what happens if you hit 70? does the whole universe implode or just your realm? |
| 00:32.50 | Effah | Oi. carried away, I actually had a question. :) |
| 00:33.04 | leech2k | Ellipsis: Would you say the majority of serious gamer chicks are muff divers? |
| 00:33.17 | Ellipsis | quite the opposite in my experience |
| 00:33.24 | leech2k | meh |
| 00:33.29 | Effah | Working on an addon that I would require a command like so: /mod cmd "Stuff that goes together" |
| 00:33.35 | leech2k | Just wishful thinking I guess. |
| 00:33.36 | Industrial | Ellipsis: gnomeparty! |
| 00:33.38 | hyperChipmunk | darn, i was close |
| 00:33.46 | hyperChipmunk | mv foofile.txt `date +%m%d%Y-%H%M`.txt |
| 00:33.54 | hyperChipmunk | was just the %Y that was wrong =) |
| 00:34.00 | Effah | How would I be able to have ace recognize the cmd, and keep "Stuff that goes together" in one argument? |
| 00:34.01 | fridgid | we used to have some weird lez chicks in my guild, it was kinda strange how open they were, i still say they were both truck drivers from ohio, and not chicks from the uk, but w/e |
| 00:34.02 | Ellipsis | Industrial: I'd roll a naked gnome on your realm to see that. |
| 00:34.08 | WobWork | JoshBorke: also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arvA73UfkTs&feature=related |
| 00:34.11 | WobWork | Boten anna |
| 00:34.16 | Industrial | Ellipsis: cept im EU :( and that prolly wont happen :( |
| 00:34.24 | Ellipsis | Industrial: I have EU friends, nub |
| 00:34.27 | Effah | Boten Anna fits irc better. :) |
| 00:34.32 | Effah | and still as annoyingly addictive |
| 00:34.42 | Industrial | WobWork: ho shi-OLD :P |
| 00:34.42 | leech2k | I need to train my wife to site around and watch irc while I play dota. Just like basshunter's gf. |
| 00:34.56 | leech2k | sit* |
| 00:34.56 | Effah | don't forget the lollipop sucking. |
| 00:34.57 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 00:35.10 | leech2k | o for sure 24/7 lollipop too |
| 00:35.14 | Effah | lol |
| 00:35.45 | leech2k | One thing though... are paddle boats cool in Sweden or something? |
| 00:35.59 | fridgid | you could prob have her dictate irc to you, so you would never have to switch screens, ahhhh sweedish women must be different |
| 00:36.02 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:36.17 | fridgid | and not just the whole 'shaving' thing |
| 00:36.43 | Industrial | in dutch, "is she swedish" sounds like "is she sweating?" |
| 00:36.45 | Ellipsis | leech2k: that's a play on a misunderstanding of the lyrics |
| 00:36.48 | Industrial | xP |
| 00:36.49 | Effah | leech: Uhhm I'd actually ask is IRC so popular in Sweden that a guy can make a name for nimself singing about a bot. :) |
| 00:36.53 | Ellipsis | people thought "boten anna" referred to a boat |
| 00:37.15 | Ellipsis | because of the word "channel" which many people didn't understand to refer to an IRC channel :P |
| 00:37.33 | Effah | I can picture block after block of internet kiosk rooms |
| 00:38.31 | fridgid | and i can picture all the people who visit those rooms, i can also picture the number of them which would faciliate me using the word butcher as an adjective |
| 00:38.46 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:38.52 | Megalon | well, the lyrics of boten anna are meant to be ambigous |
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| 00:38.54 | fridgid | not to hate on nerds |
| 00:39.11 | fridgid | too late lol |
| 00:40.06 | Effah | Meg; I wonder how the line "She can ban you so hard" is understood without the translation. |
| 00:40.27 | Ellipsis | bah, the lyrics are perfectly clear to someone who is familiar with IRC |
| 00:40.30 | Effah | Like, would "ban" also be a way to describe being capsized |
| 00:40.47 | Ellipsis | it's just that dumb "mainstream" thing...who needs 'em |
| 00:41.21 | fridgid | i still find it hard to believe that one could make a song about irc and ahve it be popular |
| 00:41.36 | Megalon | the guys in irc |
| 00:41.38 | Megalon | made it popular |
| 00:41.39 | fridgid | is w/e that is akin to something like mc frontalot which is nerdcore style stuff |
| 00:41.47 | fridgid | or is that more mainstream stuff? |
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| 00:42.00 | fridgid | im not very familer with swedish music industry |
| 00:42.00 | Effah | MC Chris? :) |
| 00:42.07 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, if [ -f "$chatlog" ] then mv $chatlog $dir`date +%m%d%Y-%H%M`.txt wanted it do something like if file then mv file to $dir\chat_datetime.txt |
| 00:42.38 | *** part/#wowace Morpheus|Play (n=Morpheus@ip68-97-184-110.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 00:42.42 | Ellipsis | basshunter did some less geeky songs, but they weren't singles so I guess that doesn't really count o.O |
| 00:43.35 | fridgid | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.45 | fridgid | i've never heard of him |
| 00:43.59 | fridgid | then again i hate rts, and have never played dota sooooo |
| 00:44.28 | buu | fridgid: IT's dumb. |
| 00:44.42 | fridgid | its like tower defence right? |
| 00:44.53 | Megalon | 'almost' |
| 00:45.30 | Effah | lol |
| 00:45.41 | fridgid | i dunno the replay value of that sounds like its kinda crap, but i guess not, rts games always pissed me off cuz it was like who can multitask the most / who knows all the shortcut keys; i guess all gamesa re like that to a degree, but rts always pissed me off |
| 00:45.42 | Effah | l shift-o to the quote, and then dollar. |
| 00:46.02 | fridgid | mc frontalot is the shit |
| 00:46.13 | hyperChipmunk | chatlog = /path/to/chatlog.txt |
| 00:46.13 | Effah | I suddenly feel the urge to get my C=64 out of the basement :) |
| 00:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | dir = /path/to/backup/logs |
| 00:46.27 | hyperChipmunk | if [[ -f $chatlog ]]; then mv $chatlog $dir/`date +%m%d%Y-%H%M`.txt; fi |
| 00:46.47 | Megalon | dota is just a teamgame, 5on5, everyone gets 1 hero with skills, 6slots for items and so |
| 00:47.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah not very rts |
| 00:47.05 | fridgid | listen to his other stuff, hes really talented, but his songs are nerdy as hell, he'd never make it mainstream because of this, he's kinda like weird al, but not old and gay |
| 00:47.28 | fridgid | ahh, well its made for some rts game though right? its like minirpg or something? |
| 00:47.37 | Effah | I gave up on DoTA btw. Same reason as said before... The people who know all teh shortcuts tend to win, because while they're assaulting, I'm trying to figure out what to buy |
| 00:47.49 | Effah | It's a mod for WC3 |
| 00:47.50 | Megalon | dota? it's for WC3:TFT |
| 00:47.59 | Megalon | a custommap |
| 00:48.01 | fridgid | yeah |
| 00:48.09 | Megalon | i think there are also versions for wc3:roc |
| 00:48.14 | Arrowmaster | i really hope sc2 has some good ai |
| 00:48.26 | Arrowmaster | like unit ai not opponent ai |
| 00:48.32 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, $dir/`date +%m%d%Y-%H%M`.txt; if i wanted ot put in a little prefix "chat" before the date how would i do that |
| 00:48.45 | Effah | i give it 1 month before there is a whole league of professional SC2 players overseas. :) |
| 00:48.51 | hyperChipmunk | they're hiring all the chinese gold farmers to play against you live |
| 00:48.56 | hyperChipmunk | there's no AI at all |
| 00:49.13 | Effah | lol "WTF? This guy is just harvesting Vespene...." |
| 00:49.21 | hyperChipmunk | Borked|Raider: just stick it right in there |
| 00:49.38 | hyperChipmunk | $dir/chat`date ...`.txt |
| 00:49.45 | Borked|Raider | oki |
| 00:49.46 | Effah | hyper: Oo is that an invitation? :) |
| 00:50.03 | fridgid | <Effah> lol "WTF? This guy is just harvesting Vespene...." <<---- i lol'd |
| 00:50.07 | Arrowmaster | i mean like having units that when fighting multiple types of units will attack the one theyre the best at attacking instead of a random one or closest one if you dont micromanage them to attack specific enemys |
| 00:50.28 | hyperChipmunk | oh, they're using goldfarmers for that too |
| 00:51.41 | fridgid | Arrowmaster, thats the stuff i hate. i guess i just don't ahve uber micro or some shit, but it was never fun, only tedious |
| 00:51.41 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: that would just eleminate a point of micro? |
| 00:51.42 | WobWork | hm |
| 00:51.42 | WobWork | PennyArcade doesn't translate to RL |
| 00:51.42 | Arrowmaster | like in the first sc2 gameplay demo the protoss ship with the laser that does more damage the longer it attacks a unit, it was just killing marines instead of attacking the ships, i hope they fix stuff like that before release |
| 00:51.42 | Ellipsis | o rly WobWork? |
| 00:51.42 | WobWork | I'm listening to this mc frontalot song |
| 00:51.42 | aestil | once you do that first quest for the spectrecles, can you not see the ghosts in the town anymore? |
| 00:51.42 | aestil | if you've turned in the quest? |
| 00:51.42 | Effah | Arrow; Nah, they'lll probably make you micromanage all that crap. part of teh skillset that RTS freaks are so damn good at |
| 00:51.45 | WobWork | and on one level it's sad |
| 00:51.45 | hyperChipmunk | one per zergling |
| 00:51.47 | fridgid | im not sure what the L shift-O to the quote then dollar means either |
| 00:51.48 | WobWork | because it's nerdcore |
| 00:51.53 | Effah | I'm more of a Click-Drag, Click, and pray kinda guy |
| 00:52.01 | WobWork | but then, he's trying to hook into the popularity of PA |
| 00:52.06 | WobWork | which is sadder |
| 00:52.13 | fridgid | PA? |
| 00:52.18 | WobWork | Penny Arcade |
| 00:52.18 | Ellipsis | which is fail, because all the cool kids know xkcd is better...or CAD at least |
| 00:52.22 | Effah | Commodore 64... |
| 00:52.24 | WobWork | It's true |
| 00:52.31 | WobWork | PA is very very hit and miss |
| 00:52.33 | WobWork | mostly miss |
| 00:52.35 | Effah | shortcut to load the directory on a floppy. :) |
| 00:52.45 | Effah | Mind you, theyf orgot the ,8 |
| 00:52.51 | WobWork | even CAD is better than PA |
| 00:52.54 | fridgid | ahh, w/e hes got a lot of other songs, but that song was his break out track, hes really talented though, most of his shits pretty funny |
| 00:53.02 | WobWork | hell, VGCats is more often amusing |
| 00:53.10 | Ellipsis | PA has its moments, but for consistent quality... |
| 00:53.14 | fridgid | even though its not something you bump in your car |
| 00:53.26 | Effah | explosm.net = my new favorite. |
| 00:53.28 | fridgid | i dunno, i kinda stopped reading comedy sites.....i've got another addiciton called wow..... |
| 00:53.31 | hyperChipmunk | RLC > though |
| 00:53.31 | Ellipsis | ergh |
| 00:53.31 | Effah | Not gaming related, mind you |
| 00:53.36 | Industrial | explosm pwns :D |
| 00:53.42 | fridgid | i used to read a bunch of sites, like sa, college humor... |
| 00:53.50 | Industrial | go rss! |
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| 00:53.52 | WobWork | Then you got a life? =) |
| 00:53.58 | hyperChipmunk | xkcd and RLC are all you need |
| 00:54.00 | aestil | fridgid: i'm with you on SA. |
| 00:54.05 | aestil | that used to be some funny shit |
| 00:54.08 | WobWork | SomethingPositive is good |
| 00:54.10 | Cyerie | I like Dark Legacy :) The one from today is funny |
| 00:54.12 | fridgid | yeah, a digital life, called Fridgid, level 70 mage of rape your face. |
| 00:54.12 | WobWork | And SinFest |
| 00:54.19 | Megalon | bring back the mighty Elftor :( |
| 00:54.20 | Effah | Ack, speaking of life. time for me to split... going Bowling.... errrrr I mean orgy.. going to an orgy.... >.> |
| 00:54.23 | Effah | <.< |
| 00:54.25 | fridgid | i'm pro at mage |
| 00:54.27 | zycl0n | Elftor was awesome |
| 00:54.28 | Industrial | Order of the Stick is fun too if you like D&D (I never played but its really fun) |
| 00:54.32 | zycl0n | I miss it :( |
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| 00:54.52 | aestil | i want to play the original fallout. |
| 00:54.56 | aestil | but its like, where do you get it? |
| 00:55.02 | aestil | it should just be a free d/l at this point. |
| 00:55.18 | JoshBorke | ok, so i have a fireball chasing me that started in skald |
| 00:55.30 | JoshBorke | how far do you think it will chase me? |
| 00:56.04 | JoshBorke | i actually fly faster than it does |
| 00:56.22 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, i should be able to do following in the bash script wine ~/woW/WoW.exe -opengl right? |
| 00:56.47 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 00:56.58 | fridgid | raider you fail at linux lol >_> |
| 00:56.59 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: they go forever until the animation finishes (i.e. hits you) |
| 00:57.10 | Ellipsis | unfortunately kiting one into shattrath is useless since nobody can see it but you =[ |
| 00:57.28 | fridgid | Ellipsis, is correct, but usually the spells already done its dmg even if the animation hasn't |
| 00:57.32 | fridgid | at least in my xp |
| 00:57.41 | JoshBorke | crap, i accidently stopped in shattrath |
| 00:57.43 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's just the animation that continues |
| 00:57.52 | JoshBorke | i got to shattrath then decided i'd fly into an instance |
| 00:58.05 | JoshBorke | back to skald |
| 00:58.24 | Ellipsis | the fel cannon ones are cooler |
| 00:58.28 | fridgid | so this one time, a crapload of people from #wowace mailed me 4k gold to my toon on US/Eredar/Fridgid, for my epic mount, it was cool. |
| 00:58.41 | JoshBorke | fridgid: lol |
| 00:58.49 | fridgid | they fixed all the broken felcannon shit in like 2.2 i think |
| 00:58.54 | JoshBorke | apparently, i made 1k gold this week |
| 00:59.03 | fridgid | but they were bugged to hell when b/c came out, the animations would loop forever, it was pretty funny |
| 00:59.06 | JoshBorke | but i'm not sure how |
| 00:59.18 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: selling your body? |
| 00:59.22 | Ellipsis | perhaps in your sleep? |
| 00:59.22 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45962/ able to spot error |
| 00:59.29 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: i have to pay others to take my body |
| 00:59.52 | Ellipsis | not me |
| 01:00.07 | JoshBorke | we can't all be as attractive as you |
| 01:00.15 | Ellipsis | ...no I mean I'll take your body for free |
| 01:00.21 | Ellipsis | fail -.- |
| 01:00.28 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 01:00.46 | fridgid | Ellipsis, are you a human trafficker? |
| 01:00.53 | hyperChipmunk | my example was for a not-if, i.e. if [[ condition ]]; then; else <command>; fi |
| 01:01.17 | hyperChipmunk | which is basically a blank 'then' part |
| 01:01.18 | Ellipsis | fridgid: how did you know? |
| 01:01.40 | Borked|Raider | ye hyperChipmunk, if the folder dont exist it create it |
| 01:01.55 | fridgid | 1) chick in an irc channel, thats like being white at the apollo 2) chick in an irc channel 3) you said you wanted to take bodies for free |
| 01:01.57 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 01:02.07 | hyperChipmunk | but you have a ; after the 'then' in the other statements too |
| 01:02.12 | Ellipsis | aww :( |
| 01:02.41 | hyperChipmunk | though that shouldn't be a problem |
| 01:02.49 | Borked|Raider | nope, same problem |
| 01:02.50 | hyperChipmunk | i was looking at the wrong lines |
| 01:02.56 | hyperChipmunk | mkdir not makedir |
| 01:03.32 | Borked|Raider | still the ; error on line 6 |
| 01:03.51 | hyperChipmunk | what's your sh interpreter? |
| 01:03.56 | Borked|Raider | hmm |
| 01:04.09 | Borked|Raider | dont know :( i use ubuntu |
| 01:04.23 | aestil | can you run wow on ubuntu 'easily'? |
| 01:04.29 | Borked|Raider | ye |
| 01:04.43 | aestil | ati has pretty decent drivers for it? |
| 01:04.44 | fridgid | easily is a releative term |
| 01:04.46 | Ellipsis | [5:05:41 pm] <Borked|Raider> dont know :( i use ubuntu <<I lol'ed |
| 01:04.58 | Borked|Raider | Ellipsis, you welcome :) |
| 01:05.09 | aestil | well, in teh building of a new computer, one of the most expensive bits is the UI. |
| 01:05.23 | fridgid | it all depends on the gfx drivers, how many people you blow in #ubuntu and if you're legally retarded or not |
| 01:05.26 | aestil | my wife will read forums, browse internet and play wow on this box [theoretically when i stop being poor] |
| 01:05.39 | fridgid | aestil, i like your style |
| 01:05.44 | hyperChipmunk | just stick a dummy command; bash doesn't like empty statements |
| 01:06.09 | aestil | yes, i am leet. its why my guild doesn't respect, or appreciate me at all. |
| 01:06.12 | hyperChipmunk | (apparently) |
| 01:06.40 | hyperChipmunk | although |
| 01:06.55 | hyperChipmunk | the reason i had you use the -p is so it wouldn't error when the directory exists >8) |
| 01:07.10 | hyperChipmunk | you can replace that line with just mkdir -p $dir |
| 01:07.18 | aestil | i think, i might be able to get some things free from microsoft, don't know if that includes operating systems though. |
| 01:07.19 | NeoTron | so it's pretty amazing that one SP managed to mind flay 1/2 as much as another SP on akama (bugged w/o add phase) |
| 01:07.23 | fridgid | aestil, we shit, ninja something big from the raid you aren't invited to, and then server transfer to a place where even more people don't appreciate you after a x-server app, so you can then get removed for being 'not as advertised' |
| 01:07.24 | aestil | use at home program or something like that. |
| 01:07.31 | NeoTron | he had the same number of dots and such but just didn't... mind flay |
| 01:07.51 | aestil | i'm not an asswipe, so i won't be ninja'ing anything. |
| 01:07.52 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, worked somehow, /home/raider/bin/runwow: 5: [[: not found /home/raider/bin/runwow: 6: [[: not found /home/raider/bin/runwow: 7: [[: not found |
| 01:08.02 | aestil | besides, no one piece of gear is worth ninjaing. |
| 01:08.11 | fridgid | it was a joke, but appeartly, youre guild really doesn't appreciate you? |
| 01:08.21 | fridgid | appear.....tastes goood |
| 01:08.26 | Borked|Raider | new line after the not found |
| 01:08.45 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 01:09.00 | NeoTron | My guild members appreciate me .... but then again if they didn't I wouldn't let them into the raid |
| 01:09.03 | NeoTron | muahaha |
| 01:09.39 | Ellipsis | can anyone verify that the apexis emanations daily is even possible? |
| 01:09.51 | Ellipsis | I don't normally lag much, but apparently it's enough to screw up the colors :( |
| 01:10.01 | Cyerie | Yes, I can do them daily |
| 01:10.07 | DreadWingKnight | I do it daily when I remember |
| 01:10.13 | Borked|Raider | hyperChipmunk, workes with [ instead of [[ |
| 01:10.33 | durcyn | uh, test is [ |
| 01:11.43 | hyperChipmunk | type ls -l /bin/sh and tell me what it's symlinked to |
| 01:12.53 | Borked|Raider | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-09-09 01:36 /bin/sh -> dash |
| 01:13.00 | hyperChipmunk | wtf is dash |
| 01:13.10 | hyperChipmunk | ~wtf dash |
| 01:13.10 | Borked|Raider | sound fast! |
| 01:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~dash |
| 01:13.15 | purl | dash is a shell to help make the V2 operating system easier to use. URL: http://v2dash.hypermart.net/downloads.html |
| 01:13.49 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.52 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 01:13.55 | Borked|Raider | :D |
| 01:14.13 | Borked|Raider | but got it working, so tx for the help |
| 01:14.24 | NightHawkAtWork | dash?!? |
| 01:14.27 | NightHawkAtWork | wtf? |
| 01:14.57 | kergoth | dash is a minimal standards compliant shell, no fancy interactive stuffs, no bashisms |
| 01:15.09 | kergoth | if your shell script relies on bashisms, it should have #!/bin/bash, not #!/bin/sh |
| 01:15.14 | Arrowmaster | pff whats wrong with bash |
| 01:15.20 | kergoth | bash is a beast |
| 01:15.30 | NightHawkAtWork | <3's bash |
| 01:15.33 | WobWork | <3 bash |
| 01:15.42 | kergoth | you should always have a small, preferably statically linked standards compliant shell for your startup scripts at the very least |
| 01:15.58 | kergoth | static is just for recovery obviously |
| 01:15.59 | fridgid | i like ponies |
| 01:16.01 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, but you're not supposed to USE it |
| 01:16.05 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 01:16.35 | fridgid | ok i lie, i like glue and glue comes from ponies, so using the transitive property, one can infer that i like ponies |
| 01:16.36 | kergoth | and if that runwow scirpt had its interpreter set to /bin/sh, it made seriously flawed assumptions in using shell capabilities beyond that SuSv3 and posix provide |
| 01:16.59 | NightHawkAtWork | have to agree with kergoth on that, though |
| 01:17.10 | hyperChipmunk | it was my flawed assumption that /bin/sh would point to bash on ubuntu |
| 01:17.13 | kergoth | not that hard to set #!/bin/tcsh or #!/bin/zsh or #!/bin/bash |
| 01:17.29 | kergoth | ah, quite |
| 01:17.37 | hyperChipmunk | yeah; I'm a zsher mehself |
| 01:17.38 | NightHawkAtWork | eh, its's a flawed assumpetion to assume /bin/sh links to any specific shell unless you're only working with a known specific system |
| 01:18.29 | hyperChipmunk | well, i started dispensing code before i saw what he was using for interpreter. He just said 'shell' |
| 01:18.30 | Borked|Raider | you are talking about black magic! |
| 01:19.14 | hyperChipmunk | Borked|Raider: basically, make the top line #!/bin/bash and it ought to work |
| 01:19.24 | Borked|Raider | well its working now |
| 01:19.25 | Borked|Raider | :D |
| 01:19.28 | Borked|Raider | as it was |
| 01:19.43 | Borked|Raider | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45963/ |
| 01:21.35 | CIA-41 | 03morgalm * r56082 10MorgDKP/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:21.35 | CIA-41 | MorgDKP: |
| 01:21.35 | CIA-41 | - fixed alias not having correct points when adding alias through raidtracker |
| 01:21.35 | CIA-41 | - fixed bug causing tablet not to show on hover |
| 01:21.35 | CIA-41 | - added database syncing (items and downloaded point data) |
| 01:21.37 | CIA-41 | - added password protection for database syncing |
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| 01:24.07 | aestil | !c us darkspear baosroth |
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| 01:48.55 | CIA-41 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 01:48.55 | CIA-41 | - Fix deDE |
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| 01:55.11 | xyu | woot, 1 shot anetheron |
| 01:55.16 | xyu | first time there |
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| 02:03.55 | CIA-41 | 03mikk 07Beta * r56084 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigRegistry-3.0/AceConfigRegistry-3.0.lua: |
| 02:03.55 | CIA-41 | Ace3 - AceConfigRegistry: |
| 02:03.55 | CIA-41 | - ACE-88: Add "guiInline" to validator |
| 02:07.26 | xyu | hmm my bigwigz is announcing the wrong mobs for Horde encampment / hyjal |
| 02:08.26 | Arrowmaster | did somebody with bigwigs talk to the npc to start it? |
| 02:09.54 | RaydenUni | do druids ever become viable combatants in bg? |
| 02:09.57 | RaydenUni | at 19 we suck |
| 02:10.10 | RaydenUni | and what role do we play in combat? |
| 02:10.42 | Arrowmaster | healer |
| 02:10.50 | Arrowmaster | but you have to be 70 |
| 02:11.00 | RaydenUni | yeah i know resto druids are nice |
| 02:11.09 | Codayus | A good resto druid is a force to fear in arenas. |
| 02:11.30 | RaydenUni | at 19 my healing can't keep up with damage |
| 02:11.47 | RaydenUni | i mostly run around rooting rogues and hunters so my team can kill them |
| 02:11.49 | Cryect | 39 since you have travel form or whatever |
| 02:11.53 | Codayus | Yeah...you don't have the gear, and you definetly don't have the spells. |
| 02:12.04 | Cryect | 19 is a sucky level |
| 02:12.08 | Cryect | 20 you get catform |
| 02:12.14 | RaydenUni | i'm thinking i'll pick up the necklace (already have it) and a ring and then level out |
| 02:12.26 | RaydenUni | my 29 rogue is much more fun |
| 02:12.49 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, isn't it technically possible to "validate" certain waves of mobs in hyjal as belonging to a certain boss though? |
| 02:13.32 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: bigwigs checks the text when you talk to the npc to start the events to figure out which boss it is |
| 02:13.53 | Xinhuan | if you detect gargoyles flying around, the code should be able to deduce that it is either kazrogal or azgalor, in the event that someone without bigwigs starts the event |
| 02:14.03 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm saying |
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| 02:16.32 | Xinhuan | do you agree? |
| 02:17.21 | Xinhuan | if later, you detect infernals, straight away it should be able to deduce that it is Azgalor, since that's the only boss with waves consisting of infernals |
| 02:17.26 | RaydenUni | what classes are good for battlegrounds at 29? |
| 02:17.57 | Shirik | rogue/priest combo imo |
| 02:18.12 | Shirik | A rogue and I tore up 29 BGs until I accidentally leveled one day |
| 02:18.29 | RaydenUni | some friends and i want to play some battlegrounds and low level seems to be less work to get geared for |
| 02:18.33 | RaydenUni | and 19 is too uber twinked |
| 02:19.33 | RaydenUni | warlocks seem really powerful |
| 02:19.46 | NeoTron | wonder if there is an addon that shows consumable use in the raid |
| 02:19.52 | NeoTron | or rather lack of consumable use |
| 02:22.25 | Gngsk | NeoTron, BigBrother does flasks iirc |
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| 02:22.48 | RaydenUni | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twink |
| 02:22.49 | RaydenUni | :O |
| 02:22.53 | Lukian | RaydenUni, a healer |
| 02:23.01 | Lukian | other than that, a flag runner |
| 02:23.24 | Lukian | I've been successful on druid, shaman and hunter |
| 02:24.27 | NeoTron | Gngsk: so it does indeed |
| 02:26.53 | NeoTron | can't wait to try out bigbrother. looks good |
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| 02:37.26 | Lukian | RaydenUni, yeah 19 BG's are lethal |
| 02:37.31 | Lukian | 29's are 'easy' |
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| 02:47.03 | aestil | stupid armory is borked |
| 02:47.08 | aestil | !c us darkspear baosroth |
| 02:47.25 | ThraeBot | aestil: Baosroth, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (15/0/46). 10941 HP; 9360 Mana; 167 mana regen; 61 mp5; 3646 Armour; 96 spell crit; 102 spell hit; 839 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (893); 54 shadow dmg (893); 6.18% dodge; 277 resilience;[[ TBR: 1088 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hkmwk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cud4j ][ Updated: Mon Nov 26 17:54:19 2007 EST ]] |
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| 02:55.45 | aestil | damn, he logged out in pvp gear. |
| 02:55.50 | aestil | useless to me. |
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| 02:59.05 | Arrowmaster | so i found the cause of arg1-arg4 getting tainted, or atleast showing up as tainted in taint.log |
| 02:59.27 | Cryect | hmm |
| 02:59.52 | Cryect | so what addon is changing the args directly? |
| 03:00.06 | Arrowmaster | none |
| 03:00.09 | Arrowmaster | its ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 03:00.16 | Cryect | haha damn blizzard |
| 03:00.19 | Arrowmaster | which is there for addons to hook |
| 03:00.42 | Arrowmaster | although it seems when a new event fires or something the args get untainted |
| 03:01.02 | Arrowmaster | because i see it in my taintlog but issecurevariable always shows them as not tainted |
| 03:01.07 | Arrowmaster | but its annoying |
| 03:01.27 | TNSe | frostbite bugged/broken or have I forgotten how to play frostmage |
| 03:01.35 | Cryect | prolly just auto untaints thing if something internal sets a variable |
| 03:03.38 | Arrowmaster | fix would be for ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler(event) to be ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler(event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11) |
| 03:03.42 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 03:04.03 | Cryect | well something still has to change the args directly for it to get tainted doesn't it? |
| 03:04.09 | Arrowmaster | then they would be tainted from the start since theyre passed |
| 03:10.22 | Xinhuan | uh the args can get tainted if they are passed by a tainted function |
| 03:10.32 | Xinhuan | i think? |
| 03:10.38 | Xinhuan | generally from hooking |
| 03:11.28 | Xinhuan | what is arg4 representing? |
| 03:17.05 | Arrowmaster | no the blizzard function gets tainted and that function is the one that changes the args |
| 03:17.10 | Arrowmaster | they arent getting passed |
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| 03:17.59 | Xinhuan | not really an issue anyway |
| 03:18.09 | Xinhuan | doesn't affect combat |
| 03:18.11 | Arrowmaster | its annoying and spams the taint.log |
| 03:18.23 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk: there's a bug in BM2 where if you click Take All, then close the mailbox and open it up, it will keep taking the mail |
| 03:18.24 | Arrowmaster | makes debuging real taint harder |
| 03:18.40 | Arrowmaster | 2 solutions, either make the args get passed to the function |
| 03:19.09 | Arrowmaster | or put local arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4 = arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4 at the top of the function |
| 03:22.30 | nymbia | hmm? who's tainting _G.argX? that's a bad thing.. |
| 03:22.46 | kenlyric | bigzero: that's a bug? |
| 03:24.58 | Cryect | nymbia, Blizzard's function |
| 03:25.01 | Cryect | that happens to get hooked |
| 03:25.36 | bigzero | kenlyric: yeah, generaly by closing a window you might want to cancel the take all action |
| 03:25.52 | bigzero | but you can't |
| 03:26.02 | nymbia | Cryect: ouch. |
| 03:26.14 | nymbia | Cryect: secure hook possible? |
| 03:26.35 | Cryect | not sure Arrowmaster was saying its for the function ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 03:26.54 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 03:27.03 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: yeah its inside of ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler which is ment to get tainted |
| 03:27.06 | kenlyric | bigzero: sometimes it continues to take all even if you took all 50 items and you return and have more items. |
| 03:27.13 | kenlyric | which is why I thought it might have been intended. |
| 03:27.20 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: ew... |
| 03:27.20 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: but it seems that tainting arg1 and so on isnt really that bad |
| 03:27.40 | Arrowmaster | afk fighting kael |
| 03:27.40 | Cryect | well it would be bad if its needed by a secure frame |
| 03:28.00 | Arrowmaster | it gets resecured |
| 03:28.13 | Cryect | oh when the event get called for something else its resecured? |
| 03:28.20 | nymbia | i don't trust the blizzy code to not use those.. |
| 03:28.30 | nymbia | hrm.. |
| 03:28.59 | nymbia | does it get resecured when it gets reset by events triggering? |
| 03:29.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think so |
| 03:29.24 | Arrowmaster | because doing issecurevariable("arg1") says its secure |
| 03:29.25 | bigzero | kenlyric: that would happen if you close the window too soon before take all really finishes |
| 03:29.52 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone desice us stormscale isangoma |
| 03:29.56 | ThraeBot | bigzero: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 03:30.37 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone desice us spirestone desice |
| 03:30.39 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Desice vs Desice! Two 70 warlocks square off!; It's a tie! Wow! (1581.6712558252 vs 1581.6712558252) |
| 03:30.44 | bigzero | lol |
| 03:30.49 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone desice us spirestone bigzero |
| 03:31.50 | ThraeBot | bigzero: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
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| 03:32.07 | bigzero | weird |
| 03:32.17 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone bigzero us spirestone desice |
| 03:32.17 | ThraeBot | bigzero: bigzero vs desice! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? bigzero and desice cannot hold their feelings for each other any longer, and start getting frisky. I suppose make love, not war? |
| 03:32.28 | Keias | rofl |
| 03:32.30 | bigzero | lol |
| 03:32.37 | bigzero | wtf? |
| 03:32.42 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone bigzero us spirestone desice |
| 03:32.42 | ThraeBot | bigzero: I just said that 26s ago. |
| 03:32.54 | Keias | !vs us blackrock saiek us blackrock saiek |
| 03:32.55 | ThraeBot | Keias: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 03:33.06 | Keias | :( |
| 03:33.41 | bigzero | bot's bugging out imo |
| 03:33.46 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone bigzero us spirestone desice |
| 03:33.53 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Bigzero vs Desice! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 11/47/3 vs 18/43/0; Desice wins by 830 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 03:33.53 | ulic | well stop fighting yourself :) |
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| 03:34.50 | starlon | TBR? |
| 03:34.57 | Gngsk | !TBR |
| 03:35.03 | Ellipsis | ~TBR |
| 03:35.03 | purl | methinks tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 03:36.16 | bigzero | !vs us spirestone desice us stormscale isangoma |
| 03:37.24 | ThraeBot | bigzero: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 03:37.54 | bigzero | !vs us stormscale isangoma us spirestone desice |
| 03:37.55 | ThraeBot | bigzero: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 03:38.08 | bigzero | oh well |
| 03:38.26 | bigzero | !vs us stormscale akma us spirestone desice |
| 03:38.26 | ThraeBot | bigzero: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
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| 03:48.47 | aestil | !c us darkspear baosroth |
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| 03:52.38 | aestil | so, terron gorefiend? |
| 03:52.41 | aestil | fun fight? |
| 03:54.54 | Keias | !c us blackrock Saiek |
| 03:55.15 | ThraeBot | Keias: Saiek, Level 70 Orc Warrior (33/28/0). 11454 HP; 10104 Armour; 1708 AP; 246.700 Melee DPS; 34.02% melee crit; 76 melee hit; 6.29% dodge; 5.00% block; 296 resilience;[[ TBR: 1378 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hckhy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ky554 ][ Updated: Mon Nov 26 19:02:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:03.02 | aestil | !c us darkspear baosroth |
| 04:03.04 | ThraeBot | aestil: Baosroth, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (15/0/46). 10941 HP; 9360 Mana; 167 mana regen; 61 mp5; 3646 Armour; 96 spell crit; 102 spell hit; 839 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (893); 54 shadow dmg (893); 6.18% dodge; 277 resilience;[[ TBR: 1088 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hkmwk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cud4j ][ Updated: Mon Nov 26 17:54:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:03.14 | Xinhuan | whats the blizzard function to securely hook a OnBlah script? |
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| 04:07.44 | dylanm | Xinhuan: Wouldn't you just hooksecurefunc whatever the script is? |
| 04:09.05 | Xinhuan | if i hook GetScript("OnTooltipSetItem"), wouldn't that hook all tooltips, and not just gametooltip? |
| 04:09.24 | NightHawkTheSane | gah. any pve servers want a shaman. >< |
| 04:09.41 | Audrina | Setting up Pitbull for myself. I dont get why I cant setup the targets health text so I can see the HP if my target all my target have 100hp anyone know how to fix it? |
| 04:09.46 | dylanm | Well you would get the arguments... you could check then. |
| 04:09.59 | Audrina | of* |
| 04:10.12 | dylanm | Audrina: Uh even ones in your party? |
| 04:10.25 | Audrina | Nah mobs |
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| 04:10.33 | dylanm | For everything else of course it's x/100, unless you have MobHealth. |
| 04:11.17 | Audrina | O I need to get something that works with PitBull? |
| 04:11.19 | dylanm | PitBull, monolithic though it may be, doesn't do that. |
| 04:11.58 | dylanm | It's on files.wowace. Just get it and everything will be happy. |
| 04:12.46 | CIA-41 | 03cwdg * r56085 10BankItems/ (5 files): |
| 04:12.46 | CIA-41 | BankItems: |
| 04:12.46 | CIA-41 | - Move a number of English strings out to localization files. |
| 04:12.46 | CIA-41 | - Add support for Feature Frame in Cosmos |
| 04:12.46 | CIA-41 | - zhCN & zhTW update |
| 04:12.48 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: i think its HookScript() |
| 04:13.10 | Xinhuan | /print HookScript |
| 04:13.11 | Xinhuan | gives ni |
| 04:13.12 | Xinhuan | nil |
| 04:13.20 | dylanm | It's a method |
| 04:13.24 | dylanm | Damn |
| 04:13.27 | dylanm | New in 2.1.0 |
| 04:13.29 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 04:13.39 | dylanm | I was not aware of this |
| 04:13.49 | Xinhuan | oh frame:HookScript() ? |
| 04:14.04 | dylanm | Xinhuan: http://www.wowwiki.com/2.1.0_consolidated_API_changes#Frames |
| 04:14.06 | dylanm | Yaya |
| 04:14.24 | dylanm | The two arguments you'd expect |
| 04:14.31 | Arrowmaster | dont confuse it with the acehook-2.1 :HookScript() |
| 04:15.02 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 04:15.04 | dylanm | Arrowmaster: Heh as soon as you mentioned it I figured it had to be a blasted Ace thing. |
| 04:15.08 | dylanm | But nope. |
| 04:16.08 | Thelyna | question: is there a way in Grid to put an indicator on people with less than 9k health? |
| 04:16.51 | Zhinjio | ok, question: I have some addon that periodically disconnects me on login. Is there any logging that will show whats causing that? |
| 04:17.02 | Zhinjio | its happening more and more often lately, and i'm sick of it. |
| 04:17.19 | dylanm | You disabled your addons and it doesn't happen? |
| 04:17.25 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 04:17.39 | Zhinjio | I have a couple toons I use for addon testing with fairly minimal configs, and it never happens on them. |
| 04:17.50 | Zhinjio | they have like... a half dozen libraries and the addons I'm testing and thats it |
| 04:18.59 | CIA-41 | 03siz * r56086 10JewelTips/ (. JewelTips.lua JewelTips.toc embeds.xml): |
| 04:18.59 | CIA-41 | JewelTips: Initial Commit |
| 04:18.59 | CIA-41 | - Display Jewel and Enchant information on tooltips. |
| 04:19.32 | hyperChipmunk | binary addon search; narrow it down if you can |
| 04:20.04 | Zhinjio | HC: Yeah. I was hoping there would be some log or something to refer to, but... meh. |
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| 04:20.31 | hyperChipmunk | you can check your Logs/errors.txt, but it's not likely to contain anything useful |
| 04:20.33 | Zhinjio | 329 addons to go through. bleh. |
| 04:20.36 | Zhinjio | kk |
| 04:20.52 | Zhinjio | yeah, there isn't one. |
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| 04:21.35 | hyperChipmunk | FrameXML.log? |
| 04:22.03 | Zhinjio | huh |
| 04:22.17 | hyperChipmunk | you can at least maybe see the last one that loaded |
| 04:22.19 | Zhinjio | there's a ton of stuff in there. |
| 04:22.49 | hyperChipmunk | not sure if that gets written anew on crash; check the timestamps |
| 04:23.09 | Zhinjio | they're all from the a recent load at least. |
| 04:23.33 | Zhinjio | there's a shitload of stuff in there that got "Error Loading" |
| 04:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | there usually is |
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| 04:24.22 | Zhinjio | I think most of this is embeds that are disembedded |
| 04:24.36 | CIA-41 | 03siz * r56087 10JewelTips/: |
| 04:24.36 | CIA-41 | JewelTips: |
| 04:24.36 | CIA-41 | - Added Externals |
| 04:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | have fun >8) |
| 04:25.18 | Aeyan | Once upon a time I had my framexml log down to just a bare handful of errors |
| 04:25.19 | Zhinjio | heh. I think the binary search will be quicker. |
| 04:25.24 | Aeyan | That didn't last long =P |
| 04:25.33 | Xinhuan | GameTooltip:HookScript("OnTooltipSetItem", function(self, ...) end) this does indeed add stuff to every tooltip, instead of hooking 20 different functions |
| 04:25.42 | hyperChipmunk | Aeyan: last time you forgot to check 'Load Out-of-Date AddOns'? |
| 04:26.07 | Ellipsis | you're one to talk hyperChipmunk, bulkmail doesn't even use embeds.xml :P |
| 04:26.18 | Aeyan | Hehe, no I just kept updating and stopping caring about updating tocs |
| 04:26.27 | Aeyan | Didn't really matter, just OCD I suppose |
| 04:26.51 | hyperChipmunk | Ellipsis: any reason it should? |
| 04:26.52 | Aeyan | Now I'll just settle for updating my old sharedmedia addons to SM-2.0 |
| 04:27.12 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: because my framexml.log makes me cry myself to sleep every night |
| 04:27.18 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 04:27.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: because all the cool kids do it |
| 04:27.22 | hyperChipmunk | works fine here |
| 04:27.23 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: you want to be cool, right? |
| 04:28.29 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ grep -i bulkmail FrameXML.log |
| 04:28.29 | hyperChipmunk | [1] [staharaj@hyperion]$ |
| 04:28.35 | Ellipsis | disembedded libs |
| 04:29.49 | sedai| | lol |
| 04:30.54 | hyperChipmunk | Ellipsis: appears as if it's a local problem |
| 04:31.19 | Ellipsis | uh, no |
| 04:31.28 | Ellipsis | 11/26 19:05:12.491 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\BulkMail2\BulkMail2.toc |
| 04:31.28 | Ellipsis | 11/26 19:05:12.491 Error loading Interface\AddOns\BulkMail2\lib\Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua |
| 04:31.42 | Ellipsis | just imagine 30 more lines of that |
| 04:31.46 | Ellipsis | for each embedded lib |
| 04:31.53 | Zhinjio | I tanked back end of kara tonight. |
| 04:31.57 | hyperChipmunk | it means you've deleted your lib dir |
| 04:31.59 | Ellipsis | no |
| 04:32.01 | Zhinjio | everything one shotted. Including Prince in 4:24 |
| 04:32.04 | Ellipsis | it means I'm using no-ext zips |
| 04:32.04 | hyperChipmunk | put it back and they'll go away |
| 04:32.07 | Zhinjio | fastest I've ever seen him go down |
| 04:32.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm, 274 lines of code, 45 lines of comments. Needs more comments. |
| 04:32.33 | Ellipsis | if you use embeds.xml to reference your embedded libs, the zip script will replace the embeds.xml with an empty one for the no-ext zips. |
| 04:32.43 | Ellipsis | and thus, no framexml errors at all. |
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| 04:33.18 | Tekkub | I swear |
| 04:33.23 | sag_ich_nicht | is 2.3.2 coming this week or not? |
| 04:33.38 | Tekkub | if one more asshole calls tK "buggy" I'm gonna fucking ban people on the forum |
| 04:33.59 | Ellipsis | you should make it add little insect icons around the tooltip |
| 04:34.04 | Ellipsis | then it would really be buggy! |
| 04:34.05 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 04:34.08 | Cryect | tK is buggy |
| 04:34.10 | Cryect | :-p |
| 04:34.15 | Keias | tK as in? |
| 04:34.17 | NightHawkTheSane | that was really fucking terrible, Ellipsis. i'm proud |
| 04:34.19 | Tekkub | what's your forum username there Ellipsis? |
| 04:34.21 | hyperChipmunk | I don't provide no-ext zips; that's a local problem |
| 04:34.54 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: sigh, so now you don't support people who download the prepackaged zips of your addon? |
| 04:35.04 | dylanm | But Tekkub it doesn't work with CowTipz!!1! |
| 04:35.12 | Cryect | haha |
| 04:35.14 | Tekkub | that's Cow's fault |
| 04:35.22 | dylanm | And we know CowTip is perfect. |
| 04:36.18 | hyperChipmunk | I support svn export; if you use a script that mangles that, then your problem is in the script |
| 04:36.33 | Ellipsis | so I need to download your addons from svn rather than files.wowace.com? |
| 04:37.04 | hyperChipmunk | i thought that was what files.wowace.com was for |
| 04:37.12 | Ellipsis | nothing's getting mangled, there's a perfectly valid way to avoid framexml errors when using no-ext zips...you're just too lazy to do it :P |
| 04:37.33 | Ellipsis | I'm downloading from files.wowace.com, and you're saying that's not your problem |
| 04:38.54 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. so there's no real reason to use claw once you have mangle, right? |
| 04:39.11 | Lukian | NightHawkTheSane, correct |
| 04:39.16 | aestil | terron gorefiend + BT3, is it petbar or main action bar? |
| 04:39.26 | Xinhuan | pet bar |
| 04:39.39 | hyperChipmunk | files.wowace.com/BulkMail2/BulkMail2.zip appears to be perfectly correct |
| 04:39.59 | Xinhuan | BT3 still uses petbar method to access gorefiend ghost actions, default UI uses main actionbar |
| 04:40.09 | aestil | why? default UI seems much smarter. |
| 04:40.12 | hyperChipmunk | if you go deleting stuff and complaining about errors then the problem is your own >8\ |
| 04:40.17 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: I'm not doing that |
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| 04:40.21 | Xinhuan | so Bt3 people continues to ctrl-3/4/5 while default UI users use 3/4/5 directly |
| 04:40.29 | Ellipsis | I'm downloading files.wowace.com/BulkMail2/no-ext/Bulkmail2.zip |
| 04:40.39 | Ellipsis | which DOES give framexml errors without even touching anything in it |
| 04:40.55 | Ellipsis | because the no-ext script can only clean up embeds.xml, not tocs |
| 04:41.00 | aestil | Xinhuan: why? |
| 04:41.07 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 04:41.13 | Xinhuan | the default UI has code to do the remapping |
| 04:41.15 | Xinhuan | BT3 doesn't |
| 04:41.24 | aestil | thats too bad. |
| 04:41.25 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it could clean up tocs, its just messy and unreliable |
| 04:41.40 | Xinhuan | i use default Ui anyway + an extension bar |
| 04:41.43 | NightHawkTheSane | then again, so is embeds.xml |
| 04:41.44 | hyperChipmunk | still sounds like a bug with the script, but you're welcome to submit a patch or commit a correction |
| 04:42.13 | aestil | Xinhuan: i don't have hardly anything default in my ui. |
| 04:42.33 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: it's not a bug with the script...it's just that the zip packaging script doesn't touch tocs intentionally |
| 04:42.33 | Xinhuan | i'll bet your quest log, and BG queueing is default UI |
| 04:42.40 | Xinhuan | and is the AH |
| 04:42.44 | Ellipsis | I will do the embeds.xml and send it to you if you like :P |
| 04:42.53 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: er, to be sure, it's not a bug with the script. The script is doing what it does, it has a mechanism that your addon simply doesn't opt in to. So neither side is actually wrong. |
| 04:43.03 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 04:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | it's just Ellipsis wants you to adjust your addon to utilize the fact that the zip script will perform post-processing on files named "embeds.xml" |
| 04:43.25 | hyperChipmunk | I'm swamped and behind on fixing real problems, and I didn't have anything to do with any zip scripts |
| 04:44.15 | Xinhuan | fixing it is simple enough - just move all lib loading from being specified in the .toc to embeds.xml - and then load embeds.xml from the toc |
| 04:44.43 | hyperChipmunk | obviously you have a better understanding of what you need, so if you can alter it without screwing up anyone else, you're perfectly welcome to fix it. I encourage others to commit to my projects |
| 04:45.04 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, if i had commit access, i'd do it just to shut you both up |
| 04:45.05 | Ellipsis | WTB svn account |
| 04:45.09 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 04:45.20 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if you even ever attempted to get an account Ellipsis |
| 04:45.25 | Ellipsis | I didn't |
| 04:45.27 | Ellipsis | I haven't needed it |
| 04:45.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I' |
| 04:45.33 | Cyerie | lol |
| 04:45.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm actively avoiding getting one |
| 04:46.00 | NightHawkTheSane | cause if i do, that means i'd feel some obligation/desire to fix all the stupid things i find. |
| 04:46.09 | Ellipsis | usually if I have something to suggest/fix, it's better to ask the author since they know whta they're doing better than I do |
| 04:46.12 | hyperChipmunk | pastey me a patch(1) and i'll be happy to apply and commit |
| 04:46.39 | Ellipsis | workin on it |
| 04:47.07 | Xinhuan | lua> strjoin(" ,", "a", "b", "c", "1") |
| 04:47.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a ,b ,c ,1, |
| 04:47.35 | Xinhuan | AHA clad|sleep, bug in implementation :D |
| 04:47.51 | Xinhuan | the ingame wow version doesn't have the trailing , ;p |
| 04:48.05 | Xinhuan | unless that , is from something else hmm |
| 04:48.29 | Xinhuan | lua> return 1 |
| 04:48.29 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1 |
| 04:48.34 | hyperChipmunk | > string.join |
| 04:48.38 | hyperChipmunk | lua> string.join |
| 04:48.38 | lua_bot | hyperChipmunk: function: 0x8070320 |
| 04:48.54 | nymbia | lua> strjoin |
| 04:48.55 | lua_bot | nymbia: function: 0x8070320 |
| 04:49.21 | hyperChipmunk | I don't believe that's standard |
| 04:49.33 | Effah | byah. 212 :) |
| 04:49.34 | Xinhuan | well running both functions in game yields the same function |
| 04:49.49 | Xinhuan | lua> strjoin("|", "a", "b", "c", "1") |
| 04:49.49 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a|b|c|1, |
| 04:49.55 | nymbia | oh |
| 04:49.56 | Xinhuan | where's that comma from |
| 04:49.57 | nymbia | lol |
| 04:50.08 | nymbia | lua> 'a','b' |
| 04:50.08 | lua_bot | nymbia: a, b |
| 04:50.15 | nymbia | lua> 'a','b','c' |
| 04:50.16 | lua_bot | nymbia: a, b, c |
| 04:50.19 | nymbia | odd |
| 04:50.25 | hyperChipmunk | i noticed it didn't have the space before it like the others |
| 04:50.25 | NightHawkTheSane | lua>'a','b','' |
| 04:50.26 | lua_bot | NightHawkTheSane: a, b, |
| 04:50.35 | Xinhuan | lua> select(#, strjoin("|", "a", "b", "c", "1")) |
| 04:50.36 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "select(#, strjoin("|", "a", "b", "c", "1"))"]:1: unexpected symbol near ',' |
| 04:50.42 | NightHawkTheSane | does strjoin have two returns or something? |
| 04:50.53 | Xinhuan | lua> select("#", strjoin("|", "a", "b", "c", "1")) |
| 04:50.53 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, |
| 04:50.58 | Xinhuan | well it says 1 |
| 04:51.05 | nymbia | answers that question |
| 04:51.08 | hyperChipmunk | but still it isn't standard, so I don't think you can really say that it's a bug in his implementation |
| 04:51.10 | nymbia | lua> 'a' |
| 04:51.10 | lua_bot | nymbia: a |
| 04:51.14 | nymbia | err |
| 04:51.14 | Xinhuan | and that has a "," too |
| 04:51.45 | Xinhuan | strjoin doesn't create intermediate garbage right? |
| 04:52.25 | aestil | 23% gorefiend wipe, i think he goes down |
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| 04:53.26 | hyperChipmunk | possibly; judging from its behavior, it's probably implemented as function(...)return table.concat{...}end |
| 04:53.48 | Zhinjio | Who maints BM2I? |
| 04:53.52 | Zhinjio | er, maintains |
| 04:53.59 | hyperChipmunk | I do |
| 04:54.05 | Zhinjio | ah cool. |
| 04:54.42 | Zhinjio | BulkMail2Inbox\BulkMailInbox.lua:234: attempt to concatenate local 'subject' ( a nil value ) |
| 04:54.57 | hyperChipmunk | Zhinjio: I believe i fixed that last week |
| 04:55.04 | hyperChipmunk | lemme see if i committed |
| 04:55.04 | Effah | is that considered obsolete since last patch? |
| 04:55.09 | Shirik | hyperChipmunk: table.concat? |
| 04:55.15 | Zhinjio | hmm. I first used loaded this addon ... um, 2 days ago |
| 04:55.33 | hyperChipmunk | Effah: absolutely not. I worked VERY hard to adapt it for 2.3 |
| 04:56.02 | Effah | No offense, I honestly don't know what it does exactly, but I did notice the extended mail functionality in-game |
| 04:56.11 | CIA-41 | 03cwdg * r56088 10BankItems/ (4 files): BankItems: Wrong words corrected |
| 04:56.34 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: I finally figured out my own personal bulkmail/PT error is caused by a mod conflict. If I ever figure out which mod it is, I'll get back to you. |
| 04:56.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm still wondering why i'm using bm2i anymore |
| 04:57.00 | hyperChipmunk | Shirik: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-table.concat |
| 04:57.05 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: OpenAll |
| 04:57.14 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: that's great |
| 04:57.30 | Shirik | hyperChipmunk: You miss my point |
| 04:57.34 | Shirik | table.concat definitely does not take a string |
| 04:57.37 | kenlyric | i finally got the brainstorm to load BM and PT and nothing else, and every category appeared fine. |
| 04:57.44 | Shirik | and table.concat(...) would throw an error |
| 04:57.54 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, but you know what i meant |
| 04:58.53 | Xinhuan | wtf, since when did someone commit something to BankItems - "- Add support for Feature Frame in Cosmos " |
| 04:59.35 | hyperChipmunk | return table.concat({select(2,...)}, select(1,...)) |
| 04:59.45 | Xuerian | anyone have any problems with autobar and insane in-combat lag? |
| 04:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | actually |
| 04:59.51 | hyperChipmunk | return table.concat({select(2,...)}, (select(1,...))) |
| 05:00.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: no, i havn't experienced any |
| 05:00.33 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Blah. I'm getting down to .2fps in mid combat |
| 05:01.00 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: delete that mod from the SVN now before Sea infects us! |
| 05:01.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: ew :\ |
| 05:01.37 | Xinhuan | no the fact is he did localization changes i already made on my local copy |
| 05:01.51 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Udno what it is, but it's affecting my tanking ability slightly |
| 05:02.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: hah, just slightly, i'm sure. :\ try a reloadui? |
| 05:02.19 | NightHawkTheSane | if you |
| 05:02.23 | hyperChipmunk | Zhinjio: you're right; it hasn't been committed >8) |
| 05:02.29 | NightHawkTheSane | er, if you're using the druid bar or wahtever, that might be related |
| 05:02.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not using that |
| 05:02.43 | Xuerian | I'm not using it... But it's not disabled |
| 05:03.06 | Xuerian | But anyway, autobar is disabled now and it's still that way |
| 05:03.38 | Xuerian | Bleh... This is not good |
| 05:03.57 | Xuerian | It's only when there's two or three mobs in active combat |
| 05:03.59 | Xuerian | otherwise it's ok |
| 05:04.34 | Xuerian | can't very well run with cpu profiling, not to mention the ace2 showing up as one item thing |
| 05:04.45 | RaydenUni | how good are resto druids for 29 bg? |
| 05:06.19 | Cryect | Resto kinda sucks without high +healing to make HOTs uberpowerful |
| 05:06.38 | Cryect | Catform is your strongest thing in your 20's |
| 05:06.45 | RaydenUni | k |
| 05:06.54 | RaydenUni | so it would be better to have another class heal |
| 05:06.54 | Cryect | and you might as well play your rogue I would say prolly :-p |
| 05:07.06 | CIA-41 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r56089 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 05:07.06 | CIA-41 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:07.06 | CIA-41 | - Fix for nil error on line 234 and hopefully more consistent handling of subject-line changes when the second-to-last item is taken from a multi-attach |
| 05:07.09 | hyperChipmunk | Zhinjio: there ya go |
| 05:07.12 | RaydenUni | at 29 druids have a slight speed advantage |
| 05:07.16 | RaydenUni | http://wiki.raydenuni.com/index.php?title=Battlegrounds |
| 05:07.17 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 05:07.32 | Cryect | heh with feline swiftness I guess so |
| 05:08.11 | RaydenUni | and they also have dash |
| 05:09.41 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: http://pastebin.com/m528fb89e |
| 05:09.51 | RaydenUni | interesting |
| 05:09.53 | Ellipsis | verified no errors as well |
| 05:09.58 | Ellipsis | doing BM2I now :) |
| 05:10.05 | RaydenUni | feral cats get almost all the same abilities as rogues, but about 10-15 levels later |
| 05:10.40 | Zhinjio | sweet, thank you. |
| 05:10.44 | Cryect | yeah that not getting cat form till lvl 20 does that |
| 05:12.09 | CIA-41 | 03yhwh * r56090 10Hemlock/localization.lua: Hemlock:- add zhCN localization |
| 05:13.28 | RaydenUni | how well do shamans heal at 29? |
| 05:13.53 | Keias | Expensively |
| 05:14.04 | RaydenUni | can anyone heal well at 29? |
| 05:14.10 | Arrowmaster | so i was trying to do an svn move on a directory the other day and it kept giving me 400 bad request errors |
| 05:14.18 | Keias | Priests |
| 05:14.23 | Keias | not sure about Pallies |
| 05:16.11 | Keias | I guess Pallies would be good too |
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| 05:16.24 | Keias | You'd be able to get Illumination, but won't have much spell crit to abuse it at 29 |
| 05:16.48 | RaydenUni | Illumination is a pally spell? |
| 05:17.01 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: i cant get svn move to work remotely on a directory, halp |
| 05:17.12 | Keias | Talent |
| 05:17.14 | Keias | If you go full holy |
| 05:17.35 | RaydenUni | well it looks like we'll have a rogue, a priest, a shaman, and a hunter |
| 05:17.45 | RaydenUni | :) |
| 05:17.52 | RaydenUni | trying to organize some guild battleground |
| 05:18.27 | Keias | Rogues and hunters are pretty ridiculous at 29 :( |
| 05:18.33 | RaydenUni | i have a 29 rogue |
| 05:18.39 | RaydenUni | medium twinked out |
| 05:18.44 | RaydenUni | playing her is a lot of fun |
| 05:18.44 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: is BM2I supposed to embed Dewdrop? it's in the X-Embeds and OptDeps but there's no external set |
| 05:19.24 | aestil | wow, we fail at terron gorefiend. |
| 05:19.34 | aestil | too much penis is being inserted into anus imo. |
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| 05:19.48 | aestil | less penis -> anus, more kill terron gorefiend |
| 05:20.07 | Keias | So it's kind of like |
| 05:20.09 | Keias | Dickin around? |
| 05:20.16 | kenlyric | it's a good way to keep mouthbreathers awake. |
| 05:20.34 | hyperChipmunk | Ellipsis: I may have changed it to use gametooltip; lemme look |
| 05:20.35 | RaydenUni | Keias if you mean "dick in a round [hole]" |
| 05:21.29 | hyperChipmunk | oh, Tablet embeds it |
| 05:21.41 | Ellipsis | ah |
| 05:22.52 | Cyerie | RaydenUni: Illumination is a paladin talent for the holy tree, lets us have a chance to regain mana after a spell crit |
| 05:22.58 | Cyerie | super super nice |
| 05:23.42 | Ellipsis | here's the BM2I patch then: http://pastebin.com/m547e794f |
| 05:23.47 | RaydenUni | are there sites that specify good dungeon drops for certain levels? ie 29 |
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| 05:23.55 | Ellipsis | see, that wasn't so bad! |
| 05:24.14 | Cyerie | You can create a filter on wowhead |
| 05:24.38 | RaydenUni | i guess kaliban's list isn't bad |
| 05:25.11 | Cyerie | RaydenUni: So you're a level 29 pvp healing paladin? |
| 05:25.19 | RaydenUni | no |
| 05:25.22 | RaydenUni | my character is a 29 rogue |
| 05:25.29 | Aens|Superiority | god damn |
| 05:25.32 | RaydenUni | i'm talking to guildmates to see what they are going to play |
| 05:25.34 | Aens|Superiority | shaman is so easy to play |
| 05:28.14 | RaydenUni | so how does exp work in a dungeon? if you are anywhere in a dungeon you get xp right? |
| 05:28.43 | CIA-41 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r56091 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail2.toc embeds.xml): |
| 05:28.43 | CIA-41 | BulkMail2: |
| 05:28.43 | CIA-41 | - support for no-ext script as provided by Ellipsis |
| 05:28.44 | CIA-41 | 03cwdg * r56092 10ACP/localization-zhCN.lua: ACP: zhCN update |
| 05:29.08 | Ellipsis | <3 hyperChipmunk |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-41 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r56093 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMail2Inbox.toc embeds.xml): |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-41 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-41 | - support for no-ext script as provided by Ellipsis |
| 05:33.09 | Keias | RaydenUni, there's a range that you get xp in |
| 05:33.19 | Keias | I'm not sure if it's like 100 yards, or what though :( |
| 05:33.23 | RaydenUni | so if you sit at the door while someone else clears it you don't get xp? |
| 05:33.26 | Keias | I know if people are far a head, you won't get xp from the kills |
| 05:33.33 | Keias | Only xp from the mobs in the front |
| 05:33.33 | Arrowmaster | you dont |
| 05:34.05 | Cyerie | <333 hyperChipmunk |
| 05:34.07 | NightHawkTheSane | its just like in the outdoor worl |
| 05:34.15 | NightHawkTheSane | d |
| 05:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | ~hug Cyerie |
| 05:34.18 | purl | ACTION hugs Cyerie tightly until Cyerie turns slightly blue |
| 05:34.21 | NightHawkTheSane | if you're too far away, you don't get xp |
| 05:34.28 | Cyerie | ooof! |
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| 05:35.37 | Ellipsis | ok, I've been way too productive today...needs more tetris |
| 05:35.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ill tetrisYOU |
| 05:35.58 | Ellipsis | ok <3 |
| 05:36.00 | RaydenUni | hmm, my 29 rogue armory page hasn't updated |
| 05:36.32 | CIA-41 | 03nymbia * r56094 10SpellBinder/ (SpellBinder.lua SpellBinder.toc): |
| 05:36.32 | CIA-41 | SpellBinder: |
| 05:36.32 | CIA-41 | - Re-enable binding list, as GetBindingAction is fixed in 2.3.2 (and i'm just gonna assume that it's out tomorrow) |
| 05:36.32 | CIA-41 | - See http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2971961156 , thanks slouken! |
| 05:36.32 | CIA-41 | - Also tweaked the modifier check code, let me know if it breaks. |
| 05:38.58 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: do you know about the editbox error with SpellBinder and probably AddonLoader |
| 05:39.19 | WobWork | Interesting furniture style |
| 05:39.21 | WobWork | Ikea? |
| 05:39.27 | NightHawkTheSane | It is, actually! |
| 05:39.34 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 05:39.44 | NightHawkTheSane | so versatile and easy to put together |
| 05:39.48 | WobWork | I think I've seen that one before, they named it Ellipxes |
| 05:39.57 | WobWork | Or maybe Sven |
| 05:40.25 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: using SpellBinder and AddonLoader, when i first type /spellbinder to have it load and open spellbinder, i get spammed with errors until i press enter twice to open and close the chat editbox |
| 05:40.34 | nymbia | hm |
| 05:41.58 | Arrowmaster | bah why did my svn checkout stop |
| 05:42.32 | nymbia | probably cause i committed ;) |
| 05:42.54 | Arrowmaster | im checking out from dev not svn |
| 05:43.05 | Arrowmaster | it was working after your commit but now it stoped |
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| 05:43.11 | nymbia | hm |
| 05:43.23 | Arrowmaster | probably doesnt like what im trying to do since i have no clue what im doing |
| 05:43.26 | Xinhuan | lua> {a=1;b=2;c=3} |
| 05:43.26 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: { ["a"] = 1, ["c"] = 3, ["b"] = 2 } (#1) |
| 05:43.36 | thul | hmm |
| 05:43.37 | thul | work |
| 05:45.04 | Kuja^ | nymbia: btw: http://pastebin.com/d5d622391 |
| 05:45.54 | Zhinjio | weird. |
| 05:46.35 | Zhinjio | my guildmistress and I are both using assessment with disembedded libs. she's getting waterfall errors when she tries to pull up the "Detect Ranges" thinger, I do not. |
| 05:47.08 | Zhinjio | would it behave badly if those values were set in the top level SV file? |
| 05:51.26 | nymbia | Kuja^: embedded or disembedded |
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| 05:57.08 | Zhinjio | If you have disembedded libraries, and you don't load an addon that uses them.... do they stay memory-resident? |
| 05:58.08 | nymbia | Kuja^: well, i need to get to sleep, but make sure that the reputation data is either loaded by the embedding addon, present in the LibPT3.1 addon, or being loaded by its own addon (and make sure everything's enabled) |
| 05:59.30 | Xuerian | Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing me to lag mid-combat in Kara? |
| 05:59.34 | Xuerian | Not on the stairs, either |
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| 06:02.56 | Kuja^ | nymbia: disembedded |
| 06:03.55 | Kuja^ | nymbia: and reputation is not there... i guess it is b/c it is in the libperiodictabe-3.1 folder and not in its own folder like the other modules |
| 06:04.16 | nymbia | something musta eaten it |
| 06:04.25 | CIA-41 | 03nemes * r56095 10Quartz/Focus/Focus.lua: |
| 06:04.25 | CIA-41 | Quartz: |
| 06:04.25 | CIA-41 | - add null check on oldStart during QuartzFocus:UNIT_SPELLCAST_DELAYED and QuartzFocus:UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_UPDATE |
| 06:05.00 | nymbia | Kuja^: well, if it's sitting right in the pt3.1 folder, it should work just fine |
| 06:05.13 | nymbia | last i checked, anyway |
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| 06:06.34 | Kuja^ | hum, well, i'll fry it out anyway later when i get back home and tell you if it worked.. |
| 06:06.48 | Kuja^ | s/fry/try |
| 06:07.01 | nymbia | cool, let me know |
| 06:07.03 | nymbia | night all |
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| 06:11.52 | sedai| | whats a good dot mod? |
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| 06:12.30 | Ellipsis | depends on your definition of "good" |
| 06:14.12 | CIA-41 | 03siz * r56097 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua: |
| 06:14.12 | CIA-41 | JewelTips: |
| 06:14.12 | CIA-41 | -Added some enchants |
| 06:14.37 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/012591.html |
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| 06:24.47 | CIA-41 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r56098 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - AceGUI: Set the Parent of the Dropdown control in the DropdownGroup properly |
| 06:29.08 | Zhinjio | I'm up to E + all Libs. No disconnects yet |
| 06:29.35 | Ellipsis | did you ever consider it might be that you have too many addons, and they're spamming addon comms or something? :P |
| 06:29.59 | Cyerie | My addons have a secret language |
| 06:30.08 | Cyerie | They speak to each other in ways I do not understand |
| 06:30.15 | Zhinjio | must... load ... one more. |
| 06:30.44 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis, I suppose that could be. But I know people who use many many more than Id |
| 06:30.47 | Zhinjio | I do* |
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| 06:32.03 | Ellipsis | it would also depend on which particular ones you're using, of course |
| 06:32.11 | Zhinjio | of course. |
| 06:32.22 | Zhinjio | I don't think my list is all that abnormal |
| 06:32.24 | Ellipsis | I just have to wonder, when it takes you this long to go through them, couldn't you possibly eliminate just a few :P |
| 06:32.29 | Zhinjio | Its less intensive than mazzle |
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| 06:33.02 | Zhinjio | yes, of course. but that wouldn't be any fun. |
| 06:37.22 | Zhinjio | I've probably spent more time working on my UI, cumulatively, than I have actually playing. |
| 06:37.25 | Zhinjio | so it stands toreason. |
| 06:38.10 | Zhinjio | nah. I guess thats not true. but its probably disproportionately high |
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| 06:49.01 | Xinhuan | did svn just die |
| 06:49.08 | Ellipsis | wasn't me |
| 06:49.09 | Xinhuan | or is it my connectino |
| 06:50.49 | Xinhuan | appears its my connectin |
| 06:51.15 | CIA-41 | 03xinhuan * r56099 10BankItems/ (4 files): BankItems: Add code to show in tooltips (optional) how many of the same item you have, and where they are located. |
| 06:52.31 | Orionshock | kergoth: lol |
| 06:56.38 | Lukian | Xinhuan, I love you! |
| 06:57.07 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, is that some uber 10 hour delayed response? |
| 06:57.22 | Orionshock | yes Xinhuan , more like 8 |
| 06:57.55 | Zhinjio | AHA!!! |
| 06:58.01 | Zhinjio | DISCONNECTED! |
| 06:58.05 | Zhinjio | ok, the list is short |
| 06:58.11 | Orionshock | btw Xinhuan .... you said bankItems showed Guild Bank stuff... but im not seeing it |
| 06:58.16 | Xinhuan | i've got some rather messed up code to cleanup i think |
| 06:58.24 | Xinhuan | type /bigb |
| 06:58.40 | Xinhuan | i haven't actually added a button to open the guildbank from BI itself |
| 06:58.42 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: what's it down to? |
| 06:58.54 | Xinhuan | so the only way is to do it by slash command atm |
| 06:59.07 | Zhinjio | Pitbull, quartz, recipebook and 2 or three other minor ones. |
| 06:59.15 | Zhinjio | shouldn't take more than another minute or two |
| 06:59.22 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 06:59.43 | Ellipsis | recipebook sounds the most suspicious to me, but that may just be because I use the other two with no issues :P |
| 07:00.01 | Zhinjio | *nod* .. I've been quietly suspecting that one for a bit, but it would make me weep to lose it. |
| 07:00.05 | Ellipsis | what does it do? |
| 07:00.47 | Xinhuan | i think we should petition slouken to add in Addon Bandwidth Traffic profiling ;p |
| 07:00.53 | Zhinjio | tracks what recipes you have between toons, and can also send your known recipes to anyone else running the addon. Also: colors AH items with overlays based on whether yo uknow anyone who need it |
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| 07:01.19 | Ellipsis | sounds like that one...tradeskill info? |
| 07:01.40 | Zhinjio | well, if this is busting things, I'll need to switch until the author fixes. |
| 07:01.41 | Xinhuan | not exactly Ellipsis |
| 07:01.47 | Zhinjio | so I'll be looking for replacements |
| 07:02.03 | Xinhuan | recipebook probably has a quite a number of extra features |
| 07:02.11 | Ellipsis | well, the features Zhinjio listed at least |
| 07:02.12 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, did /bigb work? |
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| 07:02.20 | Orionshock | nicely |
| 07:02.43 | Zhinjio | I don't need to send my recipes to others (although thats nice, it never worked quite right) |
| 07:02.51 | Zhinjio | I just want to know between my own toons |
| 07:02.53 | Xinhuan | i've mostly only been able to test it on myself, my alt, and another alt in a guild with no bank |
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| 07:03.23 | Xinhuan | so assuming i've coded it correctly to handle multiple guilds + multiple tabs + multiple realms |
| 07:03.24 | Xinhuan | .. lol |
| 07:03.29 | Orionshock | im a sucker for beta testing |
| 07:03.41 | Xinhuan | its quite barebones atm, it doesn't have the checkbox to show/hide all realms for eg |
| 07:03.53 | Xinhuan | and just takes the option from the other checkbox from /bi |
| 07:04.09 | Xinhuan | also can't delete guildbank data till i add slash commands and code for it, etc |
| 07:04.14 | Xinhuan | can't move/scale etc |
| 07:04.33 | Xinhuan | i tried profiling the code, but the functions say they take 1.5ms to run at most |
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| 07:04.41 | Xinhuan | but clicking between tabs seems to lag a bit |
| 07:05.00 | Xinhuan | so i suspect its to do with the UI engine itself drawing all the buttons/frames |
| 07:05.18 | Zhinjio | Quartz, RatingBuster and RecipeBook |
| 07:06.37 | CIA-41 | 03rabbit * r56100 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Work around SendMessage creating too large chunks by lowering the amount of bytes per message to 240. Yes, this is a hack. |
| 07:07.15 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, HACKER! |
| 07:07.20 | Xinhuan | ~lart vhaarr |
| 07:07.20 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives vhaarr a good jolt |
| 07:08.47 | Ellipsis | hrm |
| 07:08.58 | Ellipsis | is there any good way to see how much addon comm data you're sending? |
| 07:09.13 | Lukian | Xinhuan, about to give bankitems a workout on my characters :) |
| 07:09.17 | Xinhuan | you have to hook SendAddOnMessage for that |
| 07:09.32 | Xinhuan | and look at the prefix sent for every message ;p |
| 07:09.53 | Ellipsis | well I was looking for something a little less messy |
| 07:09.55 | Xinhuan | hah Lukian, tell me if you find or encounter any errors |
| 07:09.56 | CIA-41 | 03grennon * r56101 10Postal/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Postal: -v2.1, Internal Lib experiment removed |
| 07:09.58 | Ellipsis | and preferably requiring no effort on my part |
| 07:10.05 | Phorbie | yeah, that would make things horribly messy |
| 07:10.55 | Zhinjio | plus, whatever you put in to monitor it is introducing its own crap into the mix |
| 07:11.13 | Xinhuan | nah, all you want to do is just securehook the thing to see what its sending |
| 07:11.17 | Xinhuan | not change/mess with it |
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| 07:12.26 | Zhinjio | true, you're not going to introduce more traffic, but you will be doing *something* in response to each thing you read in. Even if its just updating a table or something. Anyway, not worth nitpicking. |
| 07:12.37 | Zhinjio | yup, RecipeBook |
| 07:12.44 | Zhinjio | <--- Sad Panda. |
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| 07:13.48 | grennon | Xinhuan: i noticed i made a custom purgemail function called snarfmail in the select module too |
| 07:13.59 | Xinhuan | indeed you did |
| 07:14.02 | grennon | Xinhuan: going to make sure im not doing unnecessary duplication tomorrow |
| 07:14.09 | Xinhuan | you'll have to check |
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| 07:14.16 | Xinhuan | nvm |
| 07:14.20 | Lukian | lol @ the tiny frames bankitem makes :D |
| 07:14.31 | Xinhuan | tiny frames? ~_~ |
| 07:14.41 | Xinhuan | click Options - change the scale there |
| 07:14.56 | Xinhuan | in fact, i use "open bags with blizzard bags" option normally |
| 07:15.09 | Xinhuan | but using that option taints a certain function - which is normally fine |
| 07:15.35 | Xinhuan | UIParent_UpdateFramePosition() calls it as the very last function to call to move bag positions |
| 07:15.57 | Lukian | Xinhuan, "blizzard windows" works better |
| 07:15.57 | Xinhuan | and all calls to that function in the default UI are securecalled |
| 07:16.18 | Xinhuan | yeah that's 2 different options |
| 07:16.30 | Xinhuan | one is where the bags open |
| 07:16.35 | Xinhuan | the other is where BI opens |
| 07:16.40 | Lukian | yup got it |
| 07:17.20 | Xinhuan | did i reproduce sanity's behavior? |
| 07:17.27 | Xinhuan | i merely took a stab in the dark |
| 07:17.57 | Lukian | logging an alt to check that out more now |
| 07:18.04 | Lukian | it would be good if it were the same colour |
| 07:18.10 | Lukian | yellow makes me think it's other information |
| 07:19.11 | Xinhuan | can you poke around and find me the color code then? |
| 07:19.41 | Lukian | sure |
| 07:19.56 | Lukian | tooltips don't support guildbank yet or? |
| 07:20.12 | Xinhuan | i hooked OnTooltipSetItem |
| 07:20.19 | Xinhuan | so it will work on any damn tooltip |
| 07:20.24 | Lukian | I mean items in the guildbanks |
| 07:20.26 | Xinhuan | that uses GameTooltip |
| 07:20.52 | Xinhuan | see, the problem is that old traditional addons hook the 20 different setitem functions of GameTooltip |
| 07:21.04 | Xinhuan | when blizz added :SetGuildBankItem |
| 07:21.10 | Xinhuan | all those addons need to hook that one too |
| 07:21.23 | Xinhuan | but patch 2.1 gave us OnTooltipSetItem event |
| 07:21.34 | Xinhuan | which is the solution to replace all those hooks |
| 07:21.49 | Xinhuan | TipHookerLib needs an update/rewrite imo |
| 07:22.02 | Xinhuan | but yes, BI should work on guildbanks |
| 07:22.50 | Lukian | If an items in the guild bank, how does BI display it? "Guildname has X in gbank" ? |
| 07:22.59 | Xinhuan | oh you mean that |
| 07:23.07 | Xinhuan | no, it doesn't support gbanks yet |
| 07:23.18 | Xinhuan | i barely just finished the core guildbank stuff yesterday |
| 07:23.29 | Xinhuan | core meaning 1. recording 2. displaying |
| 07:23.46 | Xinhuan | it doesn't have any other support yet, no export, no searching, etc |
| 07:24.17 | Lukian | tooltip is slightly redundant in some cases: |
| 07:24.24 | Lukian | Lukian has 4 [Mail 4] |
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| 07:24.36 | Lukian | could be Lukian has 4 [Mail] ? |
| 07:24.56 | Xinhuan | the brackets actually show a lot of detail if you have them in multiple places |
| 07:25.13 | Lukian | yeah I checked that out, It's good ^^ |
| 07:25.20 | Xinhuan | Lukian has 150 [Bags 40, Mail 60, Bank 50] |
| 07:25.41 | Xinhuan | that would be Snowballs |
| 07:25.54 | Lukian | I'm noticing 0 lag opening bank/bags/gbank :) |
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| 07:26.02 | Xinhuan | in fact i woke up this morning to see that someone deposited 100 or so Elemental Fragments into the gbank - 1 in every empty slot |
| 07:26.06 | Nocts | !tbr |
| 07:26.08 | Lukian | compared to sanity anyway |
| 07:26.12 | Nocts | ~tbr |
| 07:26.13 | purl | well, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 07:26.22 | Lukian | Xinhuan, haha |
| 07:26.34 | Xinhuan | that's because sanity builds the item cache everytime |
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| 07:26.47 | Xinhuan | i only build it once for other chars - and a seperate one for your own char |
| 07:27.01 | Lukian | how fault tolerant is BI? I've noticed my data corrupted a few times with Sanity |
| 07:27.10 | Lukian | (caused by game crashes likely) |
| 07:27.26 | Zhinjio | I have a sneaking suspicion that this is RecipeBook in combination with ATSW |
| 07:27.41 | Ellipsis | how dare you use multiple addons together Zhinjio |
| 07:27.49 | Zhinjio | goddamn me all to hell |
| 07:27.49 | Xinhuan | it records data when you visit bank, leave mailbox |
| 07:28.05 | Xinhuan | with regards to inventory/bag changes, it records the data on the next frame |
| 07:28.19 | Zhinjio | that one I Already know causes disconnects. Oh. wait. Maybe.. hmm. |
| 07:28.31 | Zhinjio | maybe it only causes disconnnectes in combination with recipebook |
| 07:28.46 | Xinhuan | meaning if you receive 100 BAG_UPDATE and UNIT_INVENTORY_UPDATE events in 1 frame, i schedule an update to record your stuff next frame (and update the cache for the tooltip) |
| 07:28.58 | Lukian | yeah I saw you say that the other day ^^ awesome |
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| 07:29.20 | Lukian | so how fault tolarant would that be? |
| 07:29.28 | Lukian | I guess I'll find out in a month or two :D |
| 07:29.29 | Lukian | lol |
| 07:29.35 | Xinhuan | you will have to say what you mean by data corruption |
| 07:30.06 | Lukian | Sanity would "forget" a number of bags, ie. maybe my bags for one character, or my bank for another, until I rebuilt the cache |
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| 07:30.18 | Xinhuan | BI won't do that |
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| 07:32.01 | Xinhuan | the addon is actually hosted here |
| 07:32.01 | Lukian | lol wtf |
| 07:32.02 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=1699 |
| 07:32.05 | Lukian | check this out in PM |
| 07:32.09 | Xinhuan | but i haven't updated that yet |
| 07:32.34 | Xinhuan | the very last and oldest comment is actually the feature request to add the tooltip stuff |
| 07:33.02 | Keias | rofl |
| 07:33.06 | Keias | I just got into a 5v5 game |
| 07:33.08 | Keias | vs a 5 shaman team |
| 07:33.16 | Lukian | lol fun |
| 07:33.19 | Lukian | how'd it go? :D |
| 07:33.26 | CIA-41 | 03cwdg * r56102 10BankItems/ (localization-zhCN.lua localization-zhTW.lua): BankItems: zhCN & zhTW update |
| 07:34.11 | clad|sleep | Xinhuan: the returns is from something entirely different |
| 07:34.17 | Keias | they killed me (warrior) |
| 07:34.23 | Keias | but they got rocked after that lol |
| 07:34.26 | Keias | 4 elemental, 1 resto |
| 07:34.28 | Xinhuan | clad|sleep, what does it mean? |
| 07:34.44 | Xinhuan | the extra comma, vs when its not there |
| 07:34.47 | clad|sleep | its just ne grabbing the results, and printing them |
| 07:34.52 | clad|sleep | i think i add that |
| 07:34.58 | clad|sleep | lua> print(1,2) |
| 07:34.58 | lua_bot | clad|sleep: 1, 2 |
| 07:35.06 | clad|sleep | hrm *shrug* |
| 07:35.13 | clad|sleep | but i can guarantee i'm the one who adds it |
| 07:35.17 | Xinhuan | lua> return 1, 2 |
| 07:35.17 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 2 |
| 07:35.22 | clad|sleep | string.join is identical to the one in wow |
| 07:35.26 | CIA-41 | 03rodrick * r56103 10NazGuildRecruiter/Core.lua: |
| 07:35.26 | CIA-41 | NazGuildRecruiter: |
| 07:35.26 | CIA-41 | - Fixed issue with MOTD setting not actually making a difference |
| 07:35.29 | clad|sleep | considering they're compiled from the same c source |
| 07:35.34 | Xinhuan | lua> function a() return 1, 2 end a() |
| 07:35.34 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 07:35.58 | Xinhuan | nvm :) |
| 07:37.29 | CIA-41 | 03tilt * r56104 10RatKiller/RatKiller.toc: |
| 07:37.29 | CIA-41 | RatKiller: |
| 07:37.29 | CIA-41 | - Very Minor TOC updates |
| 07:39.09 | Zhinjio | so, this is probably more complex. There are plenty of people using both of those addons as well. I think maybe I should wipe the SV for those and see if its still whacked. |
| 07:39.43 | Xinhuan | lua> 74/256,178/256,214/256 |
| 07:39.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0.2890625, 0.6953125, 0.8359375 |
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| 07:43.17 | Lukian | hey Xinhuan, how well does it deal with "deep" mailbox items? |
| 07:43.20 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: it only happens when the code you type doesn't return anything |
| 07:43.29 | cladhaire | i toss a return before it, and then join stuff together |
| 07:44.34 | Xinhuan | doesn't deal with it - when you visit the mailbox, it stores the first 50 mail it sees, any deeper ones are buried and lost and nto recorded |
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| 07:44.47 | Xinhuan | however, if you mail items to your alt, it will record it on your alt's mail |
| 07:45.03 | Xinhuan | until you log on that alt and check his mail |
| 07:45.07 | Lukian | Xinhuan, what if more mail comes in the box and it's recorded items which are now "deep" ? |
| 07:45.18 | Xinhuan | it throws them away |
| 07:45.36 | Xinhuan | the "mailbag" is kept in a state where it is consistent with what it last sees in it |
| 07:45.50 | Xinhuan | and not what can be theorized from past data |
| 07:46.16 | Xinhuan | theory stuff corrupts data btw |
| 07:46.30 | NightHawkTheSane | theory corrupted my mom :( |
| 07:46.32 | Xinhuan | fairly easily |
| 07:46.43 | Lukian | Xinhuan, fair enough :) |
| 07:46.56 | Lukian | the recording of items mailed to an alt is superior functionality already |
| 07:47.10 | Lukian | I can not log bankalts for days |
| 07:48.49 | Higdur | which addon are we speaking about? |
| 07:49.01 | Lukian | BankItems |
| 07:49.16 | Higdur | ok |
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| 07:57.52 | Xinhuan | hah it always amuses me to read the chinese translations |
| 07:58.12 | Xinhuan | that chinese translators commit |
| 07:58.17 | Xinhuan | (since i can read chinese) |
| 07:58.23 | Lukian | Lukian has 2 [Bank 2], <- no he doesn't he withdrew them :P |
| 07:58.39 | Xinhuan | is it reproducable? |
| 07:58.47 | Xinhuan | steps to do it? |
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| 07:59.03 | Lukian | well this might take a while, but I'm sure I can come up with steps :) |
| 08:00.49 | Xinhuan | that "bug" CAN occur if you withdraw an item out of your bank and close the bank before the server actually updates your bank/bags |
| 08:01.03 | Zhinjio | it looks like I had some bad/old/corrupt SV data |
| 08:01.09 | Zhinjio | RecipeBook is playing nice now. |
| 08:01.37 | Zhinjio | I suppose I shouldn't complain. |
| 08:01.41 | Ellipsis | at least you solved the problem, right? :) |
| 08:01.46 | Xinhuan | meaning, if you take out a stack of items from the dust, put it into your bags... but before the server actually tells you it has done so, you close the bank, |
| 08:01.49 | Lukian | Xinhuan, oh, I do that all the time probably |
| 08:01.53 | Xinhuan | BI won't update the bank anymore |
| 08:01.55 | Zhinjio | I just like it better when I have clear reproducible problems |
| 08:02.14 | Zhinjio | yes, it appears to be solved. Now I need to go through and resave all my data |
| 08:02.41 | Arrowmaster | i hope this commit doesnt fuck up |
| 08:02.53 | Xinhuan | because any bank events received after BANK_FRAME_CLOSED is supposedly inaccurate |
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| 08:05.47 | Xinhuan | in fact, you can't query the contents of your bank i think, after that event |
| 08:06.14 | Xinhuan | so if you closed it early, and received a event to update a bank bag after, that bag will probably come up as "empty" and hence you lose bank data |
| 08:07.15 | neenee | Is there some addon to add out-of-range display to the Blizzard raid frames? Or should I just go for a separate raid addon for that, like BunchOfBars/Grid/PerfectRaid/etc? |
| 08:07.32 | cladhaire | check wowinterface.com for range |
| 08:07.33 | Lukian | Xinhuan, yeah, confirmed that bug |
| 08:07.40 | cladhaire | there's one that adds it to a bunch of unit frames, including the default imo |
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| 08:08.11 | Xinhuan | that would probably explain why sanity loses bank bags data, on a guess |
| 08:08.50 | NightHawkTheSane | you're probably right |
| 08:09.11 | Lukian | Xinhuan, would it be possible to predict that a mysterious item (now in your bags), has come from the bank? |
| 08:09.26 | neenee | cladhaire: oki. I'll check again :) |
| 08:09.27 | Xinhuan | no, you could have split a stack |
| 08:09.32 | Xinhuan | or you could have opened a lockbox |
| 08:09.37 | Xinhuan | or accepted a trade |
| 08:09.39 | Xinhuan | who knows |
| 08:09.53 | Wobin | WTB CursorHasItem working in guildbank |
| 08:09.58 | Lukian | too many possibilities :( |
| 08:10.02 | Xinhuan | all it receives is a BAG_UPDATE event for the relevant bag |
| 08:10.37 | Lukian | I guess I'll train myself not to run away from the bank so fast? :D |
| 08:10.43 | Lukian | but I enjoy doing that :( |
| 08:10.44 | Lukian | hehe |
| 08:10.58 | Xinhuan | its normally alright |
| 08:11.12 | Lukian | I can easily reproduce it |
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| 08:12.44 | neenee | Hm. I'll search in the Descriptions too. |
| 08:15.59 | Xinhuan | yep i am correct in my assertion - after BANK_FRAME_CLOSED event fires, any query to the bank returns nil |
| 08:16.19 | Xinhuan | so it is impossible to update the bank - trying to update it will result in no bag and no contents in that bag |
| 08:16.36 | Xinhuan | so updating it will result in a losing the entire data for that bag |
| 08:18.57 | CIA-41 | 03tilt * r56105 10AutoDing/ (6 files): |
| 08:18.57 | CIA-41 | AutoDing: |
| 08:18.57 | CIA-41 | - Initial Upload to WoWAce. |
| 08:18.57 | CIA-41 | - Will "Ding" to both guild and party chat upon level up |
| 08:18.57 | CIA-41 | - Requires no config |
| 08:18.58 | CIA-41 | - To disable simply untick it in the addons screen |
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| 08:19.16 | Lukian | Score! |
| 08:19.21 | Lukian | AutoDing is now on wowace :D |
| 08:19.31 | greppy | it isn't a 'ding' EQ had a ding.. .WoW has a 'woosh' |
| 08:19.52 | SlamTilt | Yeah. But I was alway too lazy to "ding" to my guild ;) |
| 08:20.12 | Ellipsis | is it just me or would that get annoying when your guildie rolls a new character |
| 08:20.22 | SlamTilt | It was originally my "Hello World" but as half my guild uses it, I figured why not :) |
| 08:20.28 | Ellipsis | "Ding 2!" "Ding 3!" ... "Ding 4!" |
| 08:20.48 | SlamTilt | Oh yes, it certainly does |
| 08:20.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "Ding Your Mom!" |
| 08:20.53 | greppy | Ellipsis: how about when a group decides to make some twinks and level them to 19 or 29 or whatever |
| 08:21.43 | Lukian | the actual autoding has a screenshot feature |
| 08:21.56 | Lukian | which is awesome to see what crap you were wearing at each level :D |
| 08:24.05 | SlamTilt | I did mean to look how they were doing that as PLAYER_LEVELED (or whatever it's called) is normally fired long after the actual "woosh" |
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| 08:25.54 | SlamTilt | Anyway, now I'm convinced I've got the SVN stuff working, I can got back to writing a useful mod rather that the silly noddy apps I've just added. |
| 08:26.02 | SlamTilt | Work calls ... later guys |
| 08:28.34 | CIA-41 | 03arrowmaster * r56106 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/DemonTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: dont set globals spellIcon and _ |
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| 08:32.58 | CIA-41 | 03jerry * r56107 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data_deDE.lua Talented_Data_zhCN.lua): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 08:33.55 | Lukian | "regenerate" ? lol |
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| 08:35.11 | Ellipsis | see, Talented is like a starfish... |
| 08:35.18 | Ellipsis | you cut off one of its limbs and it just regenerates right back! |
| 08:35.34 | Lukian | <3 |
| 08:35.45 | Lukian | My hunter has 20,000 Adamantite Shells |
| 08:35.51 | Lukian | wonder how long they'll last |
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| 08:39.15 | Orionshock | what time is server maintance? |
| 08:42.50 | Ellipsis | in an hour and 15 mins |
| 08:42.54 | Wobin | bah |
| 08:43.52 | CIA-41 | 03phyber * r56108 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.toc: |
| 08:43.52 | CIA-41 | ManaPerc: |
| 08:43.52 | CIA-41 | - TOC -> 20300 |
| 08:44.49 | jwwpua | with baggins, where is the option to open everything in 1 bag instead of separate ones? (I saw the "all-in-one" profile, but where's the actual option?) |
| 08:45.43 | winkiller | good question actually |
| 08:45.52 | Ellipsis | er...if you want all your stuff categorized in one bag, use the all in one profile |
| 08:45.55 | Nargiddley | its not an option, its a bag setup with all the sections in one bag |
| 08:45.57 | winkiller | each time I edit my baggins config I have to grasp it again |
| 08:46.20 | xyu | i thought it was in layouts |
| 08:46.29 | winkiller | rule: all items, and then layout: usethe rule |
| 08:46.29 | jwwpua | Nargiddley: oh ok so to do that you have to choose that profile and then modify it? |
| 08:46.31 | winkiller | about that |
| 08:46.59 | winkiller | doesn't all-in-one just show all in one frame? |
| 08:47.08 | xyu | yep |
| 08:47.15 | winkiller | and you still have to make a category and assign it, imo |
| 08:47.22 | xyu | qft |
| 08:47.48 | winkiller | but it's a waste of baggins if you don't make many rules :P |
| 08:47.54 | Nargiddley | its basicly the same as Default, exept its one bag with lots of sections instead of lots of bags with a few sections |
| 08:47.57 | winkiller | for allinone the onebag is much better |
| 08:48.01 | Nargiddley | and the columns increased |
| 08:48.59 | winkiller | all in one blob: use onebank/onebag/oneview - many " virtual bags" sorted by type or closetgnome set: use baggins |
| 08:49.00 | Zhinjio | ok, so since EQCompare is fuckered, what else is everyone using? |
| 08:49.26 | greppy | Zhinjio: what do you mean by 'fuckered' |
| 08:49.42 | winkiller | Zhinjio: it works fine on some chars, still haven't really gotten why and how to fix :P |
| 08:49.46 | Zhinjio | it lists as "incompatible" in the list of addons. Is that just a TOC thing or is it really whacked? |
| 08:50.49 | greppy | which has been updated recently. |
| 08:51.02 | nevcairiel | the incompatible is caused by a old .toc, BUT, that generally means its really so old, that chances are that it wont work anymore |
| 08:51.16 | Zhinjio | kk. |
| 08:51.21 | xyu | my EQcompare works o_O |
| 08:51.51 | Ellipsis | argh, why is my RangeDisplay all screwy =[ |
| 08:56.41 | Lukian | Xinhuan, any luck with coloring? :D |
| 08:56.55 | Xinhuan | pretty easy |
| 08:57.02 | Xinhuan | but i am cleaning up other parts of code |
| 08:57.10 | Lukian | goodo :D |
| 08:57.19 | Lukian | (add gbank items to tooltips, kthx) :D |
| 08:57.43 | Xinhuan | that will take a while, but gbank items don't technically count as your items |
| 08:58.06 | Xinhuan | and there's always the possibility you and your alts are in multiple guilsd so you have multiple gbank data |
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| 08:59.38 | Lukian | "GuildName has X." |
| 09:00.59 | starlon | Is there a way to loot a corpse outside of right clicking on it? |
| 09:01.06 | Xinhuan | no starlon |
| 09:01.22 | starlon | alright |
| 09:01.41 | Xinhuan | the design decision from wow developers is that you can't bot that way (or at least, make it exceedingly difficult) |
| 09:02.21 | Ozguli | what about packet bots? |
| 09:02.47 | Xinhuan | well packet bots can always bot regardless |
| 09:03.10 | CIA-41 | 03jerry * r56109 10lern2count/ (Core.lua lern2count.toc): lern2count: 2.3 compatibility update |
| 09:03.23 | Lukian | lol |
| 09:03.38 | Xinhuan | it adds numbers to action button |
| 09:03.42 | Xinhuan | it adds numbers to action buttons |
| 09:03.50 | Xinhuan | indicating how many times you can cast that spell |
| 09:03.57 | Lukian | ah right |
| 09:05.20 | Xinhuan | i used it until patch 2.2 when they added reagent count in default UI |
| 09:05.46 | Adirelle | hrm... wondering if I should update BankList to take new guild bank into account |
| 09:06.09 | Xinhuan | what does banklist do? |
| 09:06.27 | Adirelle | scan your bags, allow you or your guildmate to issue queries, Ã la craftlist |
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| 09:06.49 | Xinhuan | so you could query for [onyxia cloak]? |
| 09:06.51 | Adirelle | (you can enable guildmate queries per character) |
| 09:07.25 | Adirelle | yep, I usually use it to check how many adamantite's bar I have and where I stored them |
| 09:08.10 | Adirelle | and I enabled guildmate queries for my cooking mule |
| 09:08.53 | Adirelle | the guild query part becomes quite useless with the built-in guild bank |
| 09:09.14 | Xinhuan | you handle the guildbank prior to 2.3 i take it? |
| 09:09.59 | Adirelle | hrm... I thing I messed up my explanation ^^ |
| 09:11.15 | Adirelle | banklist allows you to declare "private" character and "guild" character |
| 09:11.22 | Adirelle | then you can search for items stored into all bags/banks of all your characters |
| 09:11.38 | Adirelle | your guild mates can search for items stored into all bags/banks of all your "guild" characters |
| 09:12.02 | CIA-41 | 03jerry * r56110 10PitBull_AltAura/ (PitBull_AltAura.toc update.lua): PitBull_AltAura: 2.3 compatibility update |
| 09:12.32 | Adirelle | now, 2.3 introduced built-in guild bank, and I wonders if the "guild" part of banklist is still relevant |
| 09:12.55 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 09:13.01 | Xinhuan | that depends |
| 09:13.20 | Xinhuan | if your guildmates just wants to find out if you have extra primal airs or something, it'll be used for that |
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| 09:13.30 | Xinhuan | but your airs are yours and not part of the gbank |
| 09:13.56 | Adirelle | well... actually you *choose* if they could search |
| 09:13.57 | CIA-41 | 03jerry * r56111 10GridAlert/GridAlert.toc: GridAlert: bump toc |
| 09:14.20 | Arrowmaster | you really think every guild that used to use a guildbank alt is going to switch to using nothing but the guildbank? |
| 09:14.52 | Adirelle | e.g. I have my main, an alt for storing *my* mats and a third character that holds "guild" cooking mats => If I only allow guildmates to search for the third character, they won't even know what's on my two first chars |
| 09:15.12 | Xinhuan | most guilds would switch Arrowmaster, if not just for the storage space if nothing else |
| 09:15.24 | Arrowmaster | switch? |
| 09:15.24 | Xinhuan | and to make things more transparent |
| 09:15.33 | Arrowmaster | you get more storage space for using both not switching |
| 09:15.54 | Xinhuan | if the gbank has enough space, why would you use an alt |
| 09:16.16 | Adirelle | btw, actually they seems to be a bug with gbank permissions for newcomers |
| 09:16.28 | Arrowmaster | well the guy that runs my guilds bank has 2 or 3 bank alts for the guildbank |
| 09:16.51 | Xinhuan | 4 tabs = 392 slots |
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| 09:17.05 | Xinhuan | you're telling me he has enough alts with enough 16 slotters to fill up 392 slots? |
| 09:17.10 | Adirelle | the fact is that guildbanks also have a transaction log and is published on the armory |
| 09:17.27 | Adirelle | without the need for additionnal addons |
| 09:17.41 | Arrowmaster | well we already have almost 3 tabs in the gbank full |
| 09:17.54 | Xinhuan | say the alt buys 2 bank slots + 5 bags on char + main bank, that's 16x7+28 slots |
| 09:17.56 | Arrowmaster | and thats without really moving much over |
| 09:18.00 | Xinhuan | 140 |
| 09:18.02 | Arrowmaster | lol 2 |
| 09:18.08 | Arrowmaster | try all 7 |
| 09:18.30 | Xinhuan | lol if your guildbank alt was willing enough to buy the 7th bag slot (1000g) |
| 09:18.35 | Xinhuan | in his bank |
| 09:18.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:18.42 | Arrowmaster | 7th slot is 25g |
| 09:18.46 | Xinhuan | why wouldn't you just buy the 5th or 6th tab |
| 09:18.54 | Arrowmaster | bank slots dont go above 25g anymore |
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| 09:28.15 | Lukian | Arrowmaster, guild bank slots.. |
| 09:35.12 | CIA-41 | 03mikk * r56112 10BuffMe/BuffMe.toc: BuffMe: Put [ABANDONED] in description since author nilled out core.lua |
| 09:35.29 | CIA-41 | 037destiny * r56113 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 09:35.29 | CIA-41 | StatLogicLib: |
| 09:35.29 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:39.51 | Diao | wtf |
| 09:39.56 | Diao | since when were regular bank slots 1k gold |
| 09:40.03 | Diao | they were like 50 when i bought mine |
| 09:43.06 | CIA-41 | 03rabbit * r56114 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Removed legacy 2.2 checks. |
| 09:45.04 | Ozguli | 1,5,15,25 since I bought mine |
| 09:45.54 | Orionshock | LOLz first time in Heroic Ramparts and [Tree-Mender's Belt] drops off the chest for me, a feral druid |
| 09:45.58 | Orionshock | that's what i call luck |
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| 09:56.34 | CIA-41 | 03mikk 07Beta * r56115 10Ace3/ (AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua tests/AceTimer-3.0-test1.lua): |
| 09:56.34 | CIA-41 | Ace3 - AceTimer: |
| 09:56.34 | CIA-41 | - Change timer buckets from handle-keyed tables to linked lists. |
| 09:56.34 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.35 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.35 | CIA-41 | - Also stop composting, we only store the single most-recently removed timer, which is plenty for our purposes. |
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| 09:57.53 | CIA-41 | 03killermiles * r56116 10TweakHub/ (TweakHub.lua TweakHub.toc): |
| 09:57.53 | CIA-41 | TweakHub: |
| 09:57.53 | CIA-41 | - Up issued to version 1.1 |
| 09:57.53 | CIA-41 | - Updated interface version in TweakHub.toc |
| 09:57.53 | CIA-41 | - Changed FuBar icon |
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| 10:02.07 | CIA-41 | 03killermiles * r56117 10TweakHub_Minimap/TweakHub_Minimap.toc: |
| 10:02.07 | CIA-41 | TweakHub_Minimap: |
| 10:02.07 | CIA-41 | - Updated interface version in TweakHub_Minimap.toc |
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| 10:06.49 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r56118 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: |
| 10:06.49 | CIA-41 | Ace3 - AceTimer-3.0 |
| 10:06.49 | CIA-41 | - some cleanup and style |
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| 10:07.31 | Chexsum | :( |
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| 10:11.07 | V1c1ous | Does anyone have an idea of why Prat doesn't save my settings? I'm quite sure it's not because of Prat, because I tried another chat addon and had the same problem. Example of settings not being saved; Editboc on top of the chatbox. Everytime I relog or reload my ui it will be below again, untill I go disable/enable that module. |
| 10:12.24 | CIA-41 | 03killermiles * r56119 10TweakHub_RWFilter/ (TweakHub_RWFilter.lua TweakHub_RWFilter.toc): |
| 10:12.24 | CIA-41 | TweakHub_RWFilter: |
| 10:12.24 | CIA-41 | - Up issued to version 1.1 |
| 10:12.24 | CIA-41 | - Updated interface version in TweakHub_RWFilter.toc |
| 10:12.24 | CIA-41 | - Changed raid warning hook to RaidWarningFrame_OnEvent instead of RaidWarningFrame:AddMessage() which was broken in 2.3. |
| 10:12.25 | CIA-41 | - The RaidWarningFrame is no longer hidden when raid warnings are set to be displayed in SCT. They SHOULD not be displayed anyway. |
| 10:12.30 | CIA-41 | - DRY CODED |
| 10:14.05 | Orionshock | V1c1ous: have you tried nuke'ing your wtf file for prat? |
| 10:14.13 | V1c1ous | Yeah |
| 10:14.18 | V1c1ous | Made no difference at all |
| 10:14.35 | Orionshock | tried changing profiles? |
| 10:14.38 | Arrowmaster | are you using vista? |
| 10:14.46 | V1c1ous | Nope, xp |
| 10:14.57 | V1c1ous | Haven't tried changing profiles, hold on. |
| 10:15.12 | Orionshock | watch AceDB issue... |
| 10:15.53 | Arrowmaster | you probably have a mod thats trying to retreive settings from prat too early |
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| 10:17.55 | V1c1ous | So, disable mods one at a time to find out which one? Or is there an easier way? |
| 10:18.00 | Orionshock | anyone know where GlueXML is? |
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| 10:18.22 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: the mpq files, and no you cant edit it |
| 10:18.29 | Orionshock | awe |
| 10:18.32 | Orionshock | just want to look |
| 10:18.56 | nevcairiel | get a mpq extractor then |
| 10:19.00 | CIA-41 | 03kemayo * r56120 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Fix for "363: attempt to index local 'oldgoal' (a nil value)" reported by beql users. (It's a bandaid fix, but the servers are down so I can't play with beql to work out the root cause.) |
| 10:22.53 | Chexsum | is there going to be a wow patch for tomorrow? |
| 10:23.09 | nevcairiel | Xuerian: that warning message in SEE-Loot is really annoying :/ |
| 10:24.18 | Diao | season 3 |
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| 10:29.01 | Lukian | Kemayo_, aren't test realms up? |
| 10:30.46 | Kemayo_ | Lukian: Probably, but I don't have that set up. |
| 10:30.51 | Cartas | ~seen Sylvanaar |
| 10:30.54 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 3h 44m 16s ago, saying: 'simcity societies is pretty fun, i just installed it'. |
| 10:31.09 | Cartas | What a horrible thing to say... |
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| 10:32.43 | Varazir | Hello are bartender broken ? |
| 10:33.20 | nevcairiel | not that i know of |
| 10:33.59 | Varazir | Okay then it just buged out for me :( the bar 1 and 2 in some way linked and it dosn't change the bars when I shape shift |
| 10:34.10 | nevcairiel | linked how? |
| 10:34.35 | Varazir | if I remove one spell from bar 1 the same get removed from bar 2 |
| 10:35.00 | Varazir | reinstalled the addon did the trick :) |
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| 10:35.54 | markt_ | has anybody seen the problem where fubar doesn't deal with profiles properly... (more explanation coming... :)) |
| 10:36.19 | markt_ | ...when i log in on a toon, i get "some" settings. i get my proper default profile when i switch away from it, and then back to it. |
| 10:36.54 | markt_ | don't really want to delete my entire profile and start again - any thoughts? :) |
| 10:39.18 | Varazir | seen it too, if you mean you have to change around with the fubar plugins ? |
| 10:39.32 | markt_ | yeah |
| 10:39.58 | markt_ | my minimap buttons are in wrong places/not displayed, fubar plugins are in the wrong location, displaying text when i don't want them to, etc. |
| 10:40.01 | Varazir | it happens tim eto time when I restart the game |
| 10:40.12 | Varazir | get the same :( |
| 10:40.31 | markt_ | i suppose i should just bite the bullet and redo my profiles |
| 10:41.36 | Varazir | I have tried that but still keeps comming back |
| 10:41.38 | Ozguli | markt_ they'll always be better and better when you do that |
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| 10:42.46 | markt_ | ozg: hehe, yeah :) |
| 10:43.15 | silentium | ~seen ackis |
| 10:43.17 | purl | ackis <n=ackis@S0106000ea64881e9.ed.shawcable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 17h 30m 45s ago, saying: 'i know you can do one or the other, not sure if you can combine them w/ the ace2 framework'. |
| 10:43.21 | Varazir | Well tim eto reinstall this computer :P ( lucky I have 2 =) |
| 10:45.02 | Ozguli | hmmh. I'll rename |
| 10:45.17 | OBo | oh it's owned by someone else? |
| 10:45.33 | OBo | meh. But my RL name looks like this when written on paper |
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| 11:30.48 | markt_ | ~seen Arrowmaster |
| 11:30.50 | purl | arrowmaster is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 9m 23s) #wowace (7h 9m 23s) #wowwiki (7h 9m 23s). Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 1h 12m 28s, last said: 'Orionshock: the mpq files, and no you cant edit it'. |
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| 11:46.22 | CIA-41 | 037destiny * r56121 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 11:46.22 | CIA-41 | StatLogicLib: |
| 11:46.22 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:49.52 | CIA-41 | 03celellach * r56122 10AtlasLoot/Core/Atlas1.10.3compat.lua: |
| 11:49.52 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:49.52 | CIA-41 | - Fixed more instances |
| 11:50.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:44] * Ellipsis stabs sag_ich_nicht with a potato <--o rly |
| 11:50.33 | Ellipsis | ya rly |
| 11:50.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Ellipsis |
| 11:50.34 | purl | ACTION runs at Ellipsis with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 11:50.42 | Ellipsis | ow =[ |
| 11:50.50 | Ellipsis | dammit that's gonna sting for DAYS |
| 11:50.53 | DreadWingKnight | arena s3 today? |
| 11:50.55 | Ellipsis | ~slap sag_ich_nicht |
| 11:50.56 | purl | ACTION slaps sag_ich_nicht, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
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| 11:51.26 | pakoz | yo |
| 11:51.37 | pakoz | anyone know the base dodge/parry of a 73 elite boss? |
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| 11:52.23 | evl | pakoz: wowwiki or EJ |
| 11:52.45 | sag_ich_nicht | sup Ellipsis |
| 11:53.10 | Ellipsis | I'm so bored I'm cleaning. |
| 11:53.11 | pakoz | i've been lookin |
| 11:53.13 | pakoz | no luck atm |
| 11:53.33 | Ellipsis | please, sag_ich_nicht, entertain me and save me from this misery |
| 11:53.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis want to order(not clean, my place is clean) my place? :P |
| 11:53.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis go make a twink |
| 11:54.17 | Ellipsis | um |
| 11:54.27 | Ellipsis | how much are you willing to pay me? |
| 11:54.28 | sag_ich_nicht | (NOT the pvp kind) |
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| 12:00.00 | lolinternet | asdf |
| 12:00.22 | markt_ | zxcv |
| 12:00.29 | Ellipsis | qwer? |
| 12:00.34 | Arrowmaster | markt_: what |
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| 12:01.03 | markt_ | was wondering if the description for EQCompare should be updated to suggest an alternative now the TOC has been rolled back |
| 12:01.43 | Arrowmaster | ive been trying to move it to tags but it keeps erroring on my |
| 12:01.44 | markt_ | i was slightly confused this morning when it stopped working (i know, i know, i should have got something else ages ago :)) |
| 12:02.11 | Arrowmaster | and im tired and going to bed now (7am) |
| 12:02.28 | markt_ | np - that was all :) |
| 12:02.32 | pakoz | anyone know the max hit for a tanking warrior is (sword & board)? |
| 12:02.46 | markt_ | 3? |
| 12:04.43 | pakoz | 9% i think |
| 12:05.19 | markt_ | i have no idea what you are asking :) |
| 12:05.53 | lolinternet | Antiarc: looks like auramap has been fixed |
| 12:06.00 | lolinternet | Antiarc: well, bandaid fixed. |
| 12:06.16 | markt_ | heh - fixed would require rewrite, no? ;) |
| 12:06.37 | sag_ich_nicht | pretty much yeah :P |
| 12:06.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't break Ace2 addons anymore now |
| 12:07.00 | markt_ | ouch @ "unregister certain events across all Ace addons" |
| 12:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | but it still has the horrible amount of variables and extremely bad code design |
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| 12:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 12:07.24 | sag_ich_nicht | if you scroll down |
| 12:07.31 | sag_ich_nicht | you can read antiarcs comment that explains what was happening |
| 12:08.28 | markt_ | ah, mmm, nice |
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| 12:39.20 | markt_ | i'm looking at the auramap code and wishing i hadn't |
| 12:39.26 | markt_ | i'm going to stop now. |
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| 12:40.32 | Ktwo | hi, can anyone help me with cartographer quest database? i searched the hell out on the forum but i cant find a link to the most recent quest database |
| 12:42.49 | markt_ | just update with WAU? |
| 12:43.43 | markt_ | it really does make life easier :) |
| 12:43.50 | Ktwo | i selected cartographer quest but it wont download the database |
| 12:43.57 | Ktwo | only the plugin needed to load it |
| 12:44.16 | markt_ | you just want carto quest? why not get the whole package? |
| 12:44.50 | markt_ | (if you want to do it your way, you probably want Quests, QuestInfo and QuestObjectives) |
| 12:45.02 | Ktwo | ya, ok did try that too.. same here... all plugins are working correctly and new quests are added to the database |
| 12:45.12 | Ktwo | but the database is missing (should be quite 4MB) |
| 12:45.34 | Lukian | I never knew there was a database |
| 12:45.43 | markt_ | never noticed one |
| 12:45.52 | Gngsk | isn't there some program you can download that'll download/upload quest data? |
| 12:46.00 | Ktwo | yeah there is in fact :D thats the reason about it so that you are going to quest without l ooking all up |
| 12:46.30 | Ktwo | ht* p://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5092.260 this is the topic |
| 12:46.40 | Ktwo | but i dont see a DL-link :D |
| 12:47.02 | markt_ | it's at the bottom of the post |
| 12:47.24 | markt_ | "Cartographer_QuestObjectives_Combined.rar (366.65 KB - downloaded 636 times.) |
| 12:47.30 | Ktwo | woot |
| 12:47.33 | Ktwo | dont see that |
| 12:48.04 | markt_ | what's the point of it anyway? :) |
| 12:48.13 | Ktwo | of the db? |
| 12:48.18 | markt_ | yeah |
| 12:48.35 | Ktwo | that you will have notes on your map where to find quest lootables or mobs |
| 12:48.44 | Ktwo | so that i wont have to look all of them up |
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| 12:49.27 | markt_ | right, i see |
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| 12:49.46 | Ktwo | lol.. now i got it.. |
| 12:49.54 | Ktwo | i just had to register x( |
| 12:50.02 | markt_ | never had a problem with using mobmap tbh |
| 12:52.25 | markt_ | hehe, well, enjoy :) |
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| 13:04.48 | CIA-41 | 03ammo 07Beta * r56123 10Ace3/docs/AceConsole-3.0.txt: Ace3 - add AceConsole-3.0 basic API docs. Mikk has a FIXME at the bottom :p |
| 13:10.12 | Ktwo | is there a more simple fubar alternative out there? |
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| 13:19.02 | markt_ | define more simple |
| 13:19.18 | markt_ | fubar seems simple enough to me :) |
| 13:19.44 | sancus | yes, there is |
| 13:19.44 | sancus | post-it notes and a pen |
| 13:20.01 | Ktwo | something which brings the most basic functions (gold, exp) by itself without having 100 plugins |
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| 13:20.13 | Ktwo | time .. such things |
| 13:20.13 | markt_ | hmm |
| 13:20.19 | markt_ | ...like the default interface? :-p |
| 13:20.39 | markt_ | or you want it displayed as a bar? |
| 13:20.45 | Ktwo | exactly |
| 13:20.56 | Ktwo | but without a memory eating thing like fu |
| 13:21.03 | markt_ | lol |
| 13:21.07 | markt_ | buy more memory =] |
| 13:21.26 | Wogroipl | Fubar doesn't eat a lot of memory really |
| 13:21.37 | markt_ | just get rid of any addons you don't want |
| 13:21.46 | Ellipsis | if you think fubar eats memory, you probably use embedded libs >_> |
| 13:21.54 | Gngsk | heh |
| 13:22.07 | Gngsk | fubar is huge like ps3 |
| 13:22.07 | Ktwo | i just have a quite basic addon config but when i install fubar it doubles the loading time |
| 13:22.11 | Ktwo | strange thing^^ |
| 13:23.10 | Ellipsis | did you install 5000 plugins for it, too? |
| 13:23.38 | Ktwo | well i selected the ones that seem interesting on wau |
| 13:24.08 | Ktwo | what do u mean by embedded libs |
| 13:24.08 | Wogroipl | which is how many? |
| 13:24.14 | Ktwo | like 15 |
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| 13:24.43 | markt_ | ok, 15 is quite a few if you just want gold, XP and the time =] |
| 13:25.00 | Ktwo | there are some other things which are tempting :D |
| 13:25.09 | markt_ | well, stop complaining about load time then :-p |
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| 13:25.34 | Ktwo | can there nothing be done about it? im sure there is a way you said something about libs |
| 13:26.11 | Wogroipl | if you run a lot of addons using Rock, you can run the libs as seperate addons |
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| 13:26.43 | Ktwo | hm sounds nice, is there an easy way to do that or do i have to find out which libs i need for each addon |
| 13:26.52 | Wogroipl | so they only load in your memory once, instead of loading multiple times and then deleting doubles |
| 13:27.11 | Wogroipl | if you use WAU it's easy |
| 13:27.18 | markt_ | see: http://209.85.135.104/custom?q=cache:18YaF2c0vRAJ:www.wowace.com/forums/index.php%3Ftopic%3D10105.0%3Bprev_next%3Dprev+embedded+libs&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=pub-7657809366052718 |
| 13:27.19 | Ktwo | i do |
| 13:27.24 | markt_ | hmm, i'll tinyurl that :) |
| 13:27.34 | markt_ | http://tinyurl.com/26fj6l |
| 13:27.41 | Ktwo | ok thanx |
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| 13:40.38 | Sleypy | Anyone having a issue with the minimap being overlapped by fubar after the patch? |
| 13:45.32 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html holy fuckking shit i want to send a pack of cookies to cogwheel |
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| 13:47.26 | Ellipsis | that's like, sexy |
| 13:49.51 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
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| 13:55.17 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr |
| 13:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | wake up |
| 13:55.20 | sag_ich_nicht | you have work to do |
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| 14:20.23 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo|: lol, you seen this? http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article1453635.ece (norwegian web tabloid:p) |
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| 14:33.44 | Lothaer | G'Day |
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| 14:34.13 | Lothaer | so whats every1 up 2? |
| 14:34.23 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel * r56125 10Cartographer1/Cartographer_Foglight/Foglight.lua: Cartographer1: backport some changes for 2.3 |
| 14:34.28 | fridg | theres no test servers are there? |
| 14:34.35 | Lothaer | not too sure |
| 14:34.52 | Lothaer | i know that the S3 patch isnt available yet |
| 14:34.57 | Xinhuan | well.. i just woke up :) |
| 14:34.59 | fridg | gah, i hate servers down when i need to test shit |
| 14:35.04 | Lothaer | same |
| 14:35.05 | Ellipsis | sleep is for the weak |
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| 14:35.09 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:35.16 | Xinhuan | that's because i intend to be awake the next 24 hours when the server goes up |
| 14:35.17 | nevcairiel | the EU test servers are up |
| 14:35.24 | Xinhuan | to fully take advanatge of the gem/enchanting scene |
| 14:35.27 | Lothaer | fridg, what u testing? |
| 14:35.31 | fridg | i don't have an eu account |
| 14:35.39 | Ellipsis | geez Xinhuan, that's dedication :P |
| 14:35.58 | Lothaer | thats like chinese farmer dedication lol |
| 14:36.06 | Xinhuan | last season 2, i earned 3k gold in 2 nights |
| 14:36.09 | Xinhuan | so yeah |
| 14:36.13 | fridg | i was adding a few things to a mod of mine, and i couldn't figure out why it wasn't working last night, so i slept on it, and today i saw my mistake in like 30 seconds, so I wanted to make sure everything worked |
| 14:36.25 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:36.42 | Xinhuan | well anyway, even if you have an EU account, you dont' have an EU client |
| 14:36.43 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 14:36.55 | Lothaer | im in the middle of updating Set Wrangler with all the S1, 2 and 3 gear aswell as the Dungeon Set 3 sets :( |
| 14:36.57 | nevcairiel | too bad they cant use potions in arenas, or i could possibly make money of those |
| 14:37.35 | Lothaer | earlier today Martin Thunder was available for link on Spinebreaker :) |
| 14:37.46 | Xinhuan | is there a patch for season 3? or is all the data available |
| 14:37.51 | Xinhuan | in our current wow.exe already |
| 14:38.01 | nevcairiel | should already be there |
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| 14:38.18 | Lothaer | just gotta wait for the chains to come off |
| 14:38.20 | Xinhuan | including how to implement personal rating? |
| 14:38.32 | Xinhuan | the default ui didn't seem to have code for it is there? |
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| 14:38.46 | Lothaer | i was linking Martin Thunder with Executioner, Mongoose and all the other cool enchants LOL |
| 14:39.06 | fridg | test realms up, huzzah |
| 14:39.10 | Lothaer | wooot |
| 14:39.23 | Lothaer | i bet all the mages are there testing their uber buffs |
| 14:40.29 | Lothaer | well laters gonna go exploit the PTR |
| 14:41.02 | Xinhuan | well apart from a few theorycrafters and drboom tests |
| 14:41.08 | Xinhuan | i can hardly think of any real thing to test |
| 14:41.14 | fridg | 2.4 is gonna suck |
| 14:41.27 | Smj | 2.4 is gonna rock |
| 14:41.29 | Xinhuan | why |
| 14:41.29 | deadlock_ | Is there any addon that takes ingame screenshots and numbers them by dates? |
| 14:41.44 | thul | the built-in screenshot-thingie? :-P |
| 14:41.49 | Smj | yeah. |
| 14:41.51 | Xinhuan | you... press printscreen in game? |
| 14:41.53 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 14:41.56 | Smj | date and time. |
| 14:42.00 | fridg | if only because i'll have to rewrite every combat logging thing, its actually good, im just lamenting essentially rewriting a module |
| 14:42.03 | Ktwo | do u think they will remove hj/bt pre in 2.4? |
| 14:42.10 | Xinhuan | the filename generated is date/timestamped |
| 14:42.10 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 14:42.36 | Xinhuan | like WoWScrnShot_032905_031226.jpg |
| 14:42.59 | Xinhuan | march 29 2005, 3.12am |
| 14:43.07 | fridg | yeah, that ones old |
| 14:43.16 | deadlock_ | Not on linux M>M |
| 14:43.22 | Xinhuan | i've got some dating 2004 may i think |
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| 14:43.56 | Xinhuan | well every file has a date/timestamp |
| 14:44.04 | Xinhuan | just use your system to sort them? |
| 14:44.21 | nevcairiel | anyway regarding your screenshots, the wow printscreen key is all you get, addons cant interact with that part of the game |
| 14:44.41 | Xinhuan | alternatively, use an external utility that can grab screenshots |
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| 14:44.51 | V1c1ous | Doesn't DigicamFu interact with it? |
| 14:45.02 | Ellipsis | it only changes the same settings you can change in game anyway |
| 14:45.06 | nevcairiel | addons can tell the game to do a screenshot |
| 14:45.08 | Ellipsis | screenshot format and quality |
| 14:45.12 | nevcairiel | or hide the UI |
| 14:45.17 | Xinhuan | an example is Fraps, which can grab screenshots from any directx or opengl window, and save them in the file format you want directly |
| 14:45.18 | deadlock_ | ok. When i hit Printscreen, a dialgog pops up and tries to take over the fullscreen wow, so that my screenshots all choppy. LoL |
| 14:45.39 | DreadWingKnight | then you have an external program being bitchy |
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| 14:45.48 | _neuron_ | yeah you have something hooking printscreen deadlock.. |
| 14:45.56 | _neuron_ | it works fine for me, and I've been running wow in linux since eu beta |
| 14:46.03 | Xinhuan | i've never ever heard of anyone complaining about screenshots in linux :o |
| 14:46.23 | _neuron_ | deadlock_, which window manager are you using? |
| 14:46.41 | deadlock_ | gnome |
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| 14:46.54 | Ellipsis | and what's the dialog that pops up? |
| 14:46.54 | _neuron_ | it's in system preferances somewhere, look for key settings/hotkeys something like that |
| 14:47.03 | deadlock_ | Its the gnome-screenshot dialog |
| 14:47.03 | _neuron_ | and unhook whatever is bound to your print screen button |
| 14:47.09 | Livid` | Xinhuan what gems were you selling, the resilience ones ? |
| 14:47.21 | _neuron_ | (and then be horribly confused about 6 months from now when you try to take a screenshot and that dialog doesn't work ) |
| 14:47.45 | Xinhuan | any and all, i can cut all but 2 gem recipes (10 res and 10 spell pene) and i can cast all but 2 enchants (exec and sunfire) |
| 14:47.54 | Livid` | aha |
| 14:47.58 | Xinhuan | so pretty much, i'm a "1-stop-get-all" guy |
| 14:48.05 | Livid` | hehe |
| 14:49.12 | deadlock_ | _neuron_: If i unhook gnome-screenshot from print screen, will it then use the ingame screenshot item? |
| 14:49.21 | _neuron_ | deadlock_, yeah |
| 14:49.23 | Xinhuan | it should |
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| 14:49.31 | Xinhuan | just hook it to some other key |
| 14:50.08 | nevcairiel | you could change the ingame screenshot key too if thats easier.. |
| 14:50.09 | Xinhuan | ok i tried to login, i see the "realm selection list" has 15 servers "offline" on it |
| 14:50.25 | Xinhuan | rather than 0 servers listed usually |
| 14:51.16 | deadlock_ | I changed it to ctrl+print for gnome-screenshot. Now to test |
| 14:51.49 | Xinhuan | odd, it changed to 2 servers listed, then to 0 now |
| 14:51.51 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 14:52.02 | Ellipsis | you broke it |
| 14:52.03 | nevcairiel | probably the timeout was reached now |
| 14:52.10 | deadlock_ | Sweet. Thanks everyone, now i can work on making my textures for my background :-) |
| 14:52.15 | nevcairiel | when it drops inactive servers |
| 14:53.26 | deadlock_ | Anyone here play on dunemaul? |
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| 14:56.08 | Xinhuan | did pastey break? |
| 14:57.09 | Gngsk | can't remember who it was, but he/she said there might be downtimem since it was being switched over to norgonna's servers |
| 14:57.47 | Ellipsis | yeah, MentalPower|ZzZz mentioned that |
| 14:59.36 | Xinhuan | ok i've got this code which is pretty terrible and written a year ago |
| 14:59.37 | Xinhuan | http://pastebin.com/d1649157 |
| 14:59.50 | Xinhuan | how should i rewrite it so it doesn't generate all that string garbage? |
| 15:00.36 | nevcairiel | use strformat? |
| 15:00.56 | Xinhuan | apart from that? |
| 15:01.09 | Xinhuan | the idea is to insert commas between non-zero entries |
| 15:01.21 | Xinhuan | or rather, non-nil entries |
| 15:02.52 | nevcairiel | stuff it into a table, use table.concat on that |
| 15:02.52 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 15:03.31 | Xinhuan | wouldn't that be slower as i would have to clear the table on every iteration? |
| 15:04.19 | nevcairiel | doesnt help you anyway, seems like concat adds a delimiter after the last element too |
| 15:04.30 | CIA-41 | 03whitetooth * r56126 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 15:04.30 | CIA-41 | StatLogicLib: |
| 15:04.30 | CIA-41 | - Added in 2.3.0: Shamanistic Rage (Enhancement) now also reduces all damage taken by 30% for the duration. |
| 15:04.30 | CIA-41 | - Added in 2.3.0: Pursuit of Justice (Retribution) is now 3 ranks and increases movement speed by 5/10/15% and also reduces the chance you'll be hit by spells by 1/2/3%. |
| 15:04.30 | CIA-41 | - Updated in 2.3.0: Elune's Grace (Night Elf) effect changed to reduce chance to be hit by melee and ranged attacks by 20% for 15 seconds. There is now only 1 rank of the spell. |
| 15:04.35 | CIA-41 | - Updated in 2.3.0: Pain Suppression (Discipline Talent) is now usable on friendly targets, instantly reduces the target's threat by 5%, reduces damage taken by 40% and its cooldown has been reduced to 2 minutes. |
| 15:04.51 | Xinhuan | lua> table.concat("- ", {"a", "b", "c"}) |
| 15:04.51 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: [string "table.concat("- ", {"a", "b", "c"})"]:1: bad argument #2 to 'concat' (string expected, got table) |
| 15:05.02 | nevcairiel | other way around |
| 15:05.04 | Xinhuan | lua> table.concat({"a", "b", "c"}, "-") |
| 15:05.05 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a-b-c, |
| 15:05.12 | Xinhuan | doesn't seem to do so |
| 15:05.12 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 15:05.15 | nevcairiel | i used , |
| 15:05.19 | nevcairiel | that was misleading then |
| 15:05.24 | nevcairiel | because the bot adds it as last =P |
| 15:05.25 | Higdur | anyone that is using a prot pally out of graves range on Morogrim? |
| 15:05.40 | Xinhuan | yeah but my point stands, i would have to clear this table on every iteration |
| 15:06.43 | krka | you dont have to clear it |
| 15:06.45 | krka | just overwrite |
| 15:07.02 | Xinhuan | if the current iteration has 4 elements, and the next iteration only has 2 |
| 15:07.05 | krka | lua> table.concat({"a", "b", "c", "d", "e"}, "-", 1, 3) |
| 15:07.05 | lua_bot | krka: a-b-c, |
| 15:07.08 | krka | tada! |
| 15:07.09 | Xinhuan | i still have to clear the last 2 elements |
| 15:07.27 | krka | why? |
| 15:07.37 | Xinhuan | mmmmmmmm, i wasn't aware concat() has a 3rd and 4th arg |
| 15:08.39 | deadlock_ | Anyone here us metahud? |
| 15:08.40 | Xinhuan | lua> table.concat({"a", "b", nil, "d", "e"}, "-") |
| 15:08.40 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: [string "table.concat({"a", "b", nil, "d", "e"}, "-"..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'concat' (table contains non-strings) |
| 15:08.40 | Xinhuan | lua> table.concat({"a", "b", "", "d", "e"}, "-") |
| 15:08.40 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a-b--d-e, |
| 15:09.10 | Xinhuan | lua> string.join("-", "a", "b", "", "d", "e") |
| 15:09.10 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a-b--d-e, |
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| 15:11.29 | CIA-41 | 03ackis * r56127 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 15:11.29 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:11.29 | CIA-41 | - Fix for mad alchemist's potion skill level (was 315, now 325). |
| 15:11.29 | CIA-41 | - Reorganized Alchemy database, started reorg of blacksmithing database |
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| 15:25.05 | CIA-41 | 03ackis * r56128 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 15:25.05 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:25.05 | CIA-41 | - More BS reorganization |
| 15:25.05 | CIA-41 | - Fix for blacksmithing skill levels/obtain information for adamntite weapon chain and hand of eternity |
| 15:30.21 | krka | great |
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| 15:32.15 | balstor | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 15:32.17 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@72.73-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 19h 53m 13s ago, saying: 'and can't have wf'. |
| 15:32.35 | balstor | :( |
| 15:33.20 | Polarina | s/.././ |
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| 15:45.20 | Polarina | Fetching external item into 'tags/Sonar/11000/MetrognomeLib' |
| 15:45.20 | Polarina | svn: URL 'http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Metrognome/Lib' doesn't exist |
| 15:45.24 | Polarina | What's wrong? |
| 15:46.12 | durcyn | uh, that's the wrong URI path. |
| 15:46.26 | CIA-41 | 03whitetooth * r56129 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 15:46.26 | CIA-41 | StatLogicLib: |
| 15:46.26 | CIA-41 | - Updated deDE locale: Savagery enchant changed to "Unbandigkeit" |
| 15:46.26 | CIA-41 | - Updated deDE locale: Added "Zauberkraft" for spell damage (Scryer's shoulder enchant) |
| 15:46.49 | Polarina | durcyn: ? |
| 15:48.36 | markt_ | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Metrognome/Lib doesn't exist - perhaps you want Metrognome-2.0 instead? |
| 15:48.48 | durcyn | Polarina: other than metrognome being entirely deprecated, it's at just trunk/Metrognome/Metrognome-2.0 |
| 15:48.51 | markt_ | eg. http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Metrognome/Metrognome-2.0/ as the external |
| 15:49.09 | durcyn | did i mention its complete, total, and irreversible deprecation |
| 15:49.12 | markt_ | s/eg/ie/ |
| 15:49.27 | Polarina | durcyn: I just did a checkout and got that error. |
| 15:49.34 | durcyn | checkout of? |
| 15:49.46 | durcyn | tags/Sonar/11000? |
| 15:50.04 | Polarina | durcyn: The entire repository.. |
| 15:50.21 | durcyn | eek, why would you check out the entire repo with externals? |
| 15:50.26 | durcyn | or at all |
| 15:50.41 | Polarina | durcyn: Because I'm unable to checkout a non-existing directory. |
| 15:51.15 | durcyn | you misunderstand me - that particular tag directory has a broken external |
| 15:51.21 | durcyn | but checking out the entire repo is abusive |
| 15:51.39 | markt_ | ouch ouch ouch - you're checking out all of wowace?! |
| 15:52.11 | Polarina | How am I supposed to checkout a non-existing directory? |
| 15:52.16 | durcyn | you aren't. |
| 15:52.16 | markt_ | why would you possibly want to do that? |
| 15:52.38 | Polarina | How am I supposed to create a directory without doing a checkout first? |
| 15:52.48 | markt_ | rtfm for svn mkdir :) |
| 15:52.57 | Polarina | But I have to checkout first for that to work.. |
| 15:53.00 | leech2k | Good morning all. |
| 15:53.02 | durcyn | no you don't. |
| 15:53.02 | markt_ | no, you don't :) |
| 15:53.07 | markt_ | you can mkdir to a URL |
| 15:53.09 | Polarina | Yes, I do. |
| 15:53.15 | durcyn | no, you bloody well don't |
| 15:53.19 | kenlyric | this is why the SVN needs a bit of a cleanup. |
| 15:53.20 | durcyn | and you can't commit to svn.wowace.com anyway |
| 15:53.25 | Polarina | But honestly, why doesn't doing a complete checkout work? |
| 15:53.26 | kenlyric | a mod that was last updated for 1.11? |
| 15:53.29 | markt_ | plus, you don't _ever_ need to checkout ALL of the repository |
| 15:53.29 | durcyn | so you're doing three broken things |
| 15:53.33 | durcyn | it' sin tags, kenlyric |
| 15:53.41 | Polarina | durcyn: I can commit! |
| 15:53.49 | durcyn | Polarina: NOT TO THAT SERVER. |
| 15:53.49 | kenlyric | durcyn: yeah, but we have a lot of old broken stuff in there :) |
| 15:53.54 | Polarina | durcyn: YES I CAN! |
| 15:54.00 | durcyn | Polarina: svn.wowace.com is read-only |
| 15:54.10 | markt_ | lol, this is somewhat beside the point :) |
| 15:54.13 | durcyn | ffs, please read the documentation before fouling things up |
| 15:54.13 | Polarina | durcyn: I'm checking out from dev.wowace.com |
| 15:54.17 | markt_ | Polarina: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 15:54.29 | Polarina | markt_: Checking out the repository... |
| 15:54.39 | markt_ | ok, first off, don't check out everything |
| 15:54.45 | markt_ | which bit of the repository do you need? |
| 15:55.01 | markt_ | presumably you are working on a particular addon or something |
| 15:55.03 | Polarina | markt_: None. I need to create a directory to it. |
| 15:55.11 | markt_ | ok, where do you need to create the directory? |
| 15:55.18 | durcyn | Polarina: svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/foo |
| 15:55.19 | Polarina | markt_: Why do you ask? |
| 15:55.27 | markt_ | so i can help you understand how to do it :-) |
| 15:55.40 | durcyn | Polarina: then ckcek out only that directory, add your files, then you can commit. do not ever check out the entire repo. |
| 15:55.44 | durcyn | check* |
| 15:55.46 | Polarina | markt_: I need to create a directory within trunk and tags named Valuation. |
| 15:55.59 | durcyn | so you'd svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Valuation |
| 15:56.03 | markt_ | in which case do: svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Valuation |
| 15:56.18 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 15:56.27 | durcyn | once your directory exists, then check it and only it out, to do your commits |
| 15:56.32 | markt_ | then: svn co http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Valuation my/local/path/for/my/working/copy/of/Valuation |
| 15:56.43 | krka | haha =) |
| 15:56.51 | markt_ | then: copy files into my/local/path/for/my/working/copy/of/Valuation |
| 15:56.58 | markt_ | then: svn add etc. etc. |
| 15:57.14 | Xinhuan | or you can use svn import |
| 15:57.18 | Polarina | mkdir my/local/path/for/my/working/copy/of/Valuation |
| 15:57.29 | Polarina | svn import? |
| 15:57.36 | Xinhuan | which creates the directory for you on the svn AND uploads the contents at the same time |
| 15:57.59 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Idiots |
| 15:58.00 | Polarina | How do I use that? |
| 15:58.03 | Xinhuan | read that page |
| 15:58.06 | durcyn | Xinhuan: one complexity at a time =p |
| 15:58.11 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I know how to use svn... |
| 15:58.36 | krka | apparently not |
| 15:58.42 | Xinhuan | apparantly you don't, because you're checking out the entire svn to make a folder on it? |
| 15:59.07 | Xinhuan | svn import: This creates your addon's directory, and uploads your data. Be sure that you are specificing a unique name for the directory. |
| 15:59.10 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I know how to use it, but I'm still learning, just like you and everyone else here. |
| 15:59.46 | markt_ | learning ftw! |
| 15:59.59 | Xinhuan | [11/28 00:00:06] <Xinhuan> http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Idiots |
| 15:59.59 | Xinhuan | [11/28 00:00:07] <Polarina> How do I use that? |
| 16:00.15 | Xinhuan | you asked how to use "svn import", so i linked you an article that tells you how |
| 16:00.22 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Ok, thanks. |
| 16:02.10 | balstor | anyone got a link to the new macro function blizzard added in the last patch? |
| 16:02.25 | Xinhuan | p.s. the link isn't an insult, that is just the name of the article |
| 16:02.46 | Xinhuan | the tortoiseSVN one is "SVN for Dummies" i think |
| 16:02.48 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Where do I tell svn import where my addon is located? |
| 16:02.55 | markt__ | a bit like buying a for Dummies book for a friend =] |
| 16:03.21 | Xinhuan | i think you run that command from your addon's folder |
| 16:03.29 | Xinhuan | so you don't have to specify it |
| 16:03.36 | Adirelle | Polarina, I would sugget you to create the directory on the repository, check it out, copy your files into it, then commit it |
| 16:03.39 | markt__ | Polarina: "svn import --help" helps :-) |
| 16:03.56 | Polarina | Adirelle: Thanks. |
| 16:04.05 | leech2k | omg just use turtoise :-) |
| 16:04.18 | Adirelle | leech2k, I do that with tortoise ^^ |
| 16:04.26 | Polarina | leech2k: Doesn't work on my OS. |
| 16:04.27 | Xinhuan | that's a bit backwards though Adirelle.. why not just import, and check it out once :) |
| 16:04.29 | markt__ | pah, GUI tools suck ;^) |
| 16:04.31 | leech2k | ah |
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| 16:04.45 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I can't tell svn import where my addon is... |
| 16:05.04 | leech2k | What OS if you don't mind me asking. |
| 16:05.18 | Polarina | leech2k: GNU. |
| 16:05.33 | leech2k | markt__: Generally I would agree with you. But turtoise has grown on me. |
| 16:05.44 | leech2k | Polarina: HURD? or Linux based? |
| 16:05.50 | Polarina | leech2k: Linux. |
| 16:05.52 | Adirelle | Xinhuan, as I remember, you have to set up SVN properties on your files or they will be refused by the server-side scripts |
| 16:06.01 | Adirelle | and you can't set them up with import |
| 16:06.06 | leech2k | Polarina: Do you play wow through Wine? |
| 16:06.16 | Polarina | leech2k: Yes. |
| 16:06.21 | Xinhuan | hmm, not sure on that one Adirelle |
| 16:06.24 | leech2k | Polarina: Work decent? |
| 16:06.30 | markt__ | leech2k: i guess you stick with what you start with - i've always used svn from the cli -- i found tortoise a bit annoying when i tried it out |
| 16:06.32 | Polarina | leech2k: Yes. |
| 16:06.46 | leech2k | kk sorry for the derail |
| 16:07.00 | Adirelle | Xinhuan, I'm not sure either, but I don't remember having succesfully used import on the wowace svn, so I'll use that backward method ^^ |
| 16:07.03 | leech2k | markt__: I used cli cvs a lot. Never really svn though. |
| 16:07.17 | Polarina | Anyone is going to help me? |
| 16:07.28 | Xinhuan | well the fact that the wowace walkthrough article used import implies that it works, doesn't it? :) |
| 16:07.47 | Adirelle | yep |
| 16:07.50 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: have you seen the state of most of the documentation in that wiki? :P |
| 16:08.09 | leech2k | Its all 1+ years old :-( |
| 16:08.09 | Xinhuan | admittedly, no |
| 16:08.25 | Adirelle | though I don't know if it has been updated and tested since Kael'ten added more hook to the SVN |
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| 16:08.34 | Polarina | Is anyone going to help me out here? |
| 16:08.48 | Xinhuan | history of the page just has a single entry indicating it is a google restore of the page |
| 16:08.49 | Gngsk | Polarina, help yourself out |
| 16:09.09 | Polarina | Gngsk: The article doesn't answer my question. |
| 16:09.19 | Adirelle | database crashed a few month ago |
| 16:09.29 | Xinhuan | like i said, i believe you run that command from the addon's folder |
| 16:10.12 | balstor | anyone got a link to the european UI forums? |
| 16:10.13 | Polarina | Kaelten: Are you there? |
| 16:10.52 | JoshBorke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 16:10.52 | purl | executes killall -KILL Xinhuan |
| 16:11.25 | Adirelle | Polarina, start with something like : svn import /path/to/MyAddon http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/MyAddon |
| 16:11.39 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: hewwooo |
| 16:11.45 | Polarina | Adirelle: Thanks. |
| 16:11.55 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: so is the easiest way to get JC up past 350 a talasite pattern and 10-15 cheapo talasites? :D |
| 16:12.05 | Adirelle | notice it may be broken, just start with that |
| 16:12.42 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: so who was it that joined SR? |
| 16:12.48 | Xinhuan | offer to cut rare gems for free on /2 |
| 16:12.57 | Xinhuan | or for whatever the standard fee is |
| 16:12.59 | Adirelle | Polarina, notice I just did "svn import --help" and put data together |
| 16:13.00 | markt__ | Polarina: you may notice that ^^^ i gave you some instructions for what to do |
| 16:13.47 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: all the nubs from Jaedenar |
| 16:14.08 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: i can't afford all of the patterns, i have like 300g atm |
| 16:14.26 | Xinhuan | you offer whatever you can cut ;p |
| 16:14.43 | Xinhuan | there isn't any way around that |
| 16:14.55 | Xinhuan | so if a talasite recipe is the only thing you can afford, then yeah |
| 16:14.58 | Polarina | Adirelle: http://rafb.net/p/Jvh2oP27.html |
| 16:15.03 | Xinhuan | i suggest you go to |
| 16:15.05 | Xinhuan | Halaa |
| 16:15.10 | Xinhuan | and buy Steady Talasite design |
| 16:15.15 | Xinhuan | for like 12g |
| 16:15.27 | Xinhuan | and cut that for a fee on season 3 launch for people on /2 |
| 16:15.28 | Adirelle | Xinhuan, http://rafb.net/p/Jvh2oP27.html => pre-commit hooks, as I said ^^ |
| 16:15.36 | Polarina | Adirelle: What is that? |
| 16:15.57 | Adirelle | Polarina, the SVN server ensures that some condition are met before accepting your changes |
| 16:16.01 | Adirelle | +s |
| 16:16.02 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: good idea |
| 16:16.11 | Polarina | Adirelle: What am I supposed to do about it?!? |
| 16:16.34 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: my jc has been stuck at 351 for a month or two, lol |
| 16:16.47 | markt__ | Polarina: do the svn mkdir/svn co/svn add/svn ci thing i mentioned about |
| 16:17.00 | Adirelle | Polarina, first, read the f**ing message ! (around line 40) |
| 16:17.00 | Xinhuan | once you hit the 365 or 360 mark, you should be able to get some of the meta gems designs as well from some factions |
| 16:17.04 | Xinhuan | then you can cut those as well |
| 16:17.11 | Polarina | Adirelle: I f**ing did! |
| 16:17.14 | Xinhuan | but Steady talasite is probably your best bet |
| 16:17.27 | Xinhuan | plus you can always buy uncut ones, cut Steady, and put it back on AH, gauranteed to sell |
| 16:17.33 | Xinhuan | esp on S3 |
| 16:17.38 | markt__ | Polarina: politeness will get you further than rudeness :-p |
| 16:17.51 | Polarina | markt__: Ok... |
| 16:18.19 | markt__ | Polarina: do you still have what i said in your IRC history? |
| 16:18.35 | Polarina | markt__: ? |
| 16:18.41 | markt__ | let me restate it :) |
| 16:18.42 | Xinhuan | Adirelle: someone should update that wiki |
| 16:18.50 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 16:18.52 | Adirelle | Xinhuan, right ^^ |
| 16:18.52 | markt__ | do: svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Valuation |
| 16:19.26 | markt__ | then do: svn co http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Valuation /tmp/Valuation |
| 16:19.35 | Adirelle | btw I thought there was a way to force a property on import, but it seems that nont |
| 16:19.53 | Polarina | markt__: http://rafb.net/p/obZuGT11.html |
| 16:20.16 | markt__ | Polarina: include a commit note :-p |
| 16:20.30 | markt__ | something like... "Added trunk directory for Valuation addon" would be good :) |
| 16:20.31 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: when you get the 350 JC rare patterns, do they show up orange in the skill list? |
| 16:20.31 | Polarina | markt__: Why? |
| 16:20.38 | markt__ | because it is good practice |
| 16:20.39 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: if your JC is at 350 or so |
| 16:20.44 | markt__ | and the repository won't let you commit if you don't |
| 16:20.56 | Xinhuan | i think so, yes, because you need to be 350 to learn them in the first place |
| 16:21.03 | Polarina | markt__: It's just a directory. The 'svn state' command tells more than a simple log entry.. |
| 16:21.04 | kadrahil | yeah, makes sense |
| 16:21.06 | markt__ | then: cp -r ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/Valuation/* /tmp/Valuation |
| 16:21.16 | Xinhuan | they are all "green" when you are 375 |
| 16:21.22 | Xinhuan | and yellow at 365 |
| 16:21.25 | kadrahil | are there any more vendor patterns after 350? like at 365? |
| 16:21.33 | markt__ | Polarina: you can debate it all you like... but you won't be able to commit to the wowace repository without specifying a commit message |
| 16:21.38 | Xinhuan | no, everything is world drop beyond 350 |
| 16:21.41 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 16:21.44 | kadrahil | ah |
| 16:22.06 | Xinhuan | with the exception of a few recipes from faction rewards |
| 16:22.15 | kadrahil | there was a living ruby design on teh AH for 850g buyout ;( |
| 16:22.21 | Xinhuan | sounds normal |
| 16:22.28 | Xinhuan | solid star of elune design easily goes 1k |
| 16:22.31 | markt__ | then: cd /tmp/Valuation; svn add * |
| 16:22.37 | kadrahil | yeesh |
| 16:22.38 | CIA-41 | 03polarina * r56130 10Valuation/: |
| 16:22.38 | CIA-41 | Valuation: |
| 16:22.38 | CIA-41 | - Emptiness. |
| 16:22.41 | Xinhuan | and sparkling star of elune easily is about 50-100g |
| 16:22.42 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:22.44 | Polarina | markt__: One at a time. |
| 16:22.54 | markt__ | hehe :) |
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| 16:22.57 | kadrahil | solid star is 12 stam though |
| 16:23.01 | kadrahil | lotta tanks out there :p |
| 16:23.10 | Xinhuan | not just tanks... pvp sockets too |
| 16:23.15 | kadrahil | yarly |
| 16:23.22 | kadrahil | i'll be stacking a few of those |
| 16:24.03 | kadrahil | how much do you spend on ore a day to prospect? |
| 16:24.12 | Xinhuan | sometimes 0, sometimes 2k gold |
| 16:24.28 | kadrahil | :( |
| 16:24.44 | Xinhuan | hmm is it mystic dawnstone rather than steady talasite that is at halaa |
| 16:24.45 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 16:24.48 | balstor | hmmm in this API [* NEW - spell, rank = GetMacroSpell(macro) ] anyone have a clue what macro may be? |
| 16:24.48 | Xinhuan | i forget |
| 16:24.56 | kadrahil | the resiience/stam cut? |
| 16:25.02 | kadrahil | resilience |
| 16:25.09 | Xinhuan | balstor, i think its the macro index or name |
| 16:25.34 | Xinhuan | i think it retrieves the first spell it comes across that #showtooltip would display? |
| 16:25.37 | kadrahil | thanks for reminding me about that though, i never thought about getting that pattern |
| 16:25.46 | Polarina | markt__: Then commit? But if I want to tag that version? |
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| 16:26.15 | markt__ | woah, one thing at a time |
| 16:26.22 | markt__ | as you said :) |
| 16:26.28 | markt__ | ok, you've done the svn add? |
| 16:26.29 | balstor | it's suppose toreturn the #show or the first spell, but macro is sorta of non commital |
| 16:26.31 | Polarina | markt__: Yes. |
| 16:26.41 | markt__ | ok, now we need to set the eol-style property on each of the text files |
| 16:26.42 | Polarina | markt__: svn cp ? |
| 16:26.51 | markt__ | wait, not yet :) |
| 16:26.52 | balstor | macro sould be the name the ID(index) or the string with the macro |
| 16:26.56 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 16:27.10 | markt__ | what line ending are you using? LF? LFCR? |
| 16:27.27 | Polarina | markt__: LF. |
| 16:27.44 | Industrial | uh, does Avion work? its loaded but doesnt show up in niagara and theres no /avion ? |
| 16:28.13 | markt__ | ok, so do: svn propset svn:eol-style LF *.lua *.toc *.xml Changelog Styles/*.lua API/*.lua |
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| 16:28.27 | CIA-41 | 03mikk 07Beta * r56131 10Ace3/docs/ (. AceConsole-3.0.txt): |
| 16:28.27 | CIA-41 | Ace3 - docs: |
| 16:28.27 | CIA-41 | - Explain AceConsole:GetArgs better |
| 16:28.27 | markt__ | s/Changelog/ChangeLog/ |
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| 16:28.49 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=9.10&filter=cr=92:111;crs=1:1;crv=0:350#0+8+1 |
| 16:28.54 | markt__ | you should get a bunch of "property 'svn:eol-style' set on..." lines |
| 16:29.02 | kadrahil | i can get 4 of those |
| 16:29.16 | kadrahil | KoT, lower city, scryer, and sha'tar |
| 16:29.29 | Xinhuan | yep, but note those are unique-equip |
| 16:29.33 | Xinhuan | and BOP on creation |
| 16:29.45 | kadrahil | ah |
| 16:29.50 | Polarina | markt__: Done. |
| 16:29.53 | kadrahil | i can also do the epic ones from the vendors too |
| 16:29.58 | markt__ | ok, now you can "svn ci" |
| 16:30.06 | kadrahil | +12 crit dang |
| 16:30.07 | Polarina | markt__: ci? |
| 16:30.07 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 16:30.11 | Amadeo | I was hoping for a patch today |
| 16:30.15 | Xinhuan | but don't make more than 1 of it |
| 16:30.16 | markt__ | yeah, "svn commit", whatever |
| 16:30.20 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 16:30.22 | markt__ | i just use "svn ci" cos i'm lazy :) |
| 16:30.23 | Xinhuan | since you can't use more than 1 |
| 16:30.26 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 16:30.39 | kadrahil | i need to get exalted with consortium now |
| 16:30.56 | Xinhuan | gl |
| 16:31.02 | kadrahil | and get the earthstorm and skyfire cuts |
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| 16:32.04 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 16:33.53 | markt__ | all nice and committed now? |
| 16:34.33 | Polarina | markt__: CIA-41 will tell you when. :) |
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| 16:34.53 | markt__ | hehe, that's why i was asking :) |
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| 16:35.53 | CIA-41 | 03polarina * r56132 10Valuation/ (17 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:35.53 | CIA-41 | Valuation: |
| 16:35.53 | CIA-41 | - Valuation v1.4.1 |
| 16:35.56 | Silowyi | 2.3.2 didn't have any major changes to the api right? |
| 16:36.20 | Silowyi | just fixes and crap? |
| 16:36.24 | markt__ | Polarina: gratz =] |
| 16:36.32 | Polarina | markt__: Now, how do I tag it? xD |
| 16:37.01 | markt__ | ok, bear with me here... what do you want to tag it for? |
| 16:37.12 | Polarina | markt__: Version 1.4.1... |
| 16:37.31 | Polarina | markt__: tags/ |
| 16:37.51 | markt__ | okies |
| 16:38.03 | markt__ | do another svn mkdir over http - this time for tags/Valuation |
| 16:38.39 | Silowyi | huh |
| 16:38.42 | durcyn | just svn cp it |
| 16:38.50 | Silowyi | so they don't have the typical 3 day wait period between seasons this time |
| 16:39.01 | Livid` | hmm |
| 16:39.07 | Livid` | anyone having problems with talented ? |
| 16:39.25 | Livid` | refusing to apply my templates |
| 16:39.26 | CIA-41 | 03polarina * r56133 10/tags/Valuation/: |
| 16:39.26 | CIA-41 | Valuation: |
| 16:39.26 | CIA-41 | - Emptiness. |
| 16:39.35 | markt__ | and now svn cp over http like this: |
| 16:39.54 | markt__ | svn cp http://url/to/trunk/Valuation http://url/to/tags/Valuation/<tag-name> |
| 16:39.59 | markt__ | (excuse my lazyness :)) |
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| 16:40.30 | markt__ | durcyn: you can't copy something into a directory which doesn't yet exist |
| 16:40.41 | Polarina | markt__: Not just something like: svn cp trunk/Valuation tags/Valuation && svn commit ? |
| 16:41.02 | markt__ | nah, easier just to do it server-side |
| 16:41.16 | durcyn | markt__: yes you can. |
| 16:41.17 | Polarina | markt__: But the trunk contains a file I don't want into the tags... |
| 16:41.28 | kergoth | Polarina: then you do the copy, then remove the file. two seperate steps |
| 16:41.34 | kergoth | better for the history anyway |
| 16:41.41 | kergoth | copy+modify in one commit = the devil |
| 16:41.44 | kergoth | :P |
| 16:41.58 | durcyn | svn cp http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Valuation http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/tags/Valuation/1.4.1 |
| 16:42.00 | markt__ | durcyn: hmm, ok, never worked for me in the past :) |
| 16:42.05 | durcyn | ^ works just fine last i used it |
| 16:42.16 | Polarina | durcyn: Thanks. |
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| 16:45.19 | Speeddymon | ~lart Speeddymon's wife |
| 16:45.19 | purl | hereby declares Speeddymon's wife a troll |
| 16:45.32 | markt__ | durcyn: ... |
| 16:45.33 | markt__ | svn: Path 'test' not present |
| 16:45.36 | markt__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.42 | markt__ | (the other way around :)) |
| 16:45.47 | durcyn | markt__: svn help cp =P |
| 16:45.59 | Speeddymon | ~lart Speeddymon's wife |
| 16:45.59 | purl | gives Speeddymon's wife a good seeing to |
| 16:46.10 | Speeddymon | damnit purl give me a good one! |
| 16:46.12 | Speeddymon | ~lart Speeddymon's wife |
| 16:46.12 | purl | stamps Speeddymon's wife on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
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| 16:46.19 | Speeddymon | yea there we go |
| 16:46.20 | markt__ | durcyn: i see nothing in there that would make it work :) |
| 16:46.27 | durcyn | server side copies are the recommended way of branching and tagging, actually. the parent directories may need to exist, but the target doesn't have to. |
| 16:46.40 | markt__ | idd - that was all i was saying |
| 16:46.49 | markt__ | the svn mkdir was just to make the parent directory |
| 16:46.59 | markt__ | mkdir-ing the target would be fail :) |
| 16:47.12 | durcyn | let's agree more violently then, please. |
| 16:47.23 | markt__ | btw... file:/// is "server-side" :) |
| 16:47.59 | markt__ | ...with much violence! |
| 16:48.31 | Polarina | markt__: svn cp http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Valuation http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/tags/Valuation/1.4.1 wants to commit right away... |
| 16:48.41 | markt__ | indeed it does - and that is what you want :) |
| 16:49.01 | Polarina | markt__: That is not what I want... |
| 16:49.04 | durcyn | a copy is a commit |
| 16:49.11 | markt__ | you are tagging trunk as 1.4.1... |
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| 16:49.28 | markt__ | is that not what you want after all? |
| 16:49.30 | Polarina | markt__: But I want to remove that extra file before commiting.. |
| 16:49.36 | markt__ | that is badness :) |
| 16:49.45 | markt__ | you have two "proper" options... |
| 16:49.59 | Polarina | markt__: I know it's badness, I still want to do it.. |
| 16:50.54 | durcyn | er, if it's "extra", then why not remove it from trunk before copying? |
| 16:50.55 | markt__ | ...change trunk, then copy it to the tag... |
| 16:50.55 | markt__ | ...or copy it to the tag, then change the tag. :) |
| 16:50.59 | Cadwallion | ...I like...using ellipses...as a way...to separate my sentences...on the internet... |
| 16:51.10 | Cadwallion | :-) |
| 16:51.28 | markt__ | i certainly do... |
| 16:51.31 | markt__ | ...if i have more to say. :) |
| 16:51.40 | Polarina | markt__: When I copy it to tags/, it creates a directory like tags/Valuation/1.4.1/Valuation/<files> |
| 16:51.58 | Cadwallion | I will run out of things to say...when I die. :-( |
| 16:52.03 | markt__ | hmm, then you are missing trailing slashes |
| 16:52.12 | Polarina | markt__: I tried with and without them. |
| 16:53.09 | markt__ | ok, hmm. |
| 16:53.37 | markt__ | you are doing the URL to URL copy you stated above? |
| 16:53.46 | Polarina | markt__: No, WC to WC. |
| 16:54.12 | markt__ | oh, you're doing it differently now then |
| 16:54.29 | markt__ | because you want the badness |
| 16:54.42 | Polarina | markt__: How do I do it? |
| 16:54.45 | markt__ | i don't support badness =] |
| 16:55.08 | Polarina | markt__: Then I'll just do a normal file system copy and commit. |
| 16:56.12 | markt__ | why not do it properly? |
| 16:56.21 | Polarina | markt__: Because I don't know how.. |
| 16:56.42 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all! :) |
| 16:57.51 | markt__ | ok, the proper way would be to make trunk match what you want in the tag |
| 16:57.54 | markt__ | then copy it to the tag |
| 16:58.03 | Amadeo | morning viking |
| 16:58.14 | Polarina | markt__: I said, it creats a directory named Valuation within tags/1.4.1/ |
| 16:58.17 | markt__ | or, if you don't like that, copy trunk to a branch, make a change in a branch and then tag that :) |
| 16:59.47 | Polarina | polarina@unix-polarina:~/projects$ svn cp trunk/Valuation/ tags/Valuation/1.4.1 |
| 16:59.47 | Polarina | A tags/Valuation/1.4.1/Valuation |
| 17:00.47 | krka | tags are just svn copy, it's easy |
| 17:00.50 | krka | same as branches |
| 17:01.21 | Polarina | krka: But why is it creating a directory within 1.4.1 named Valuation that contains all the files? |
| 17:01.24 | Amadeo | My noble steed - http://i10.tinypic.com/6xsh305.jpg |
| 17:01.31 | krka | that's what a tag is |
| 17:01.31 | markt__ | Polarina: because you already have a directory called 1.4.1 |
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| 17:02.11 | Polarina | markt__: What do you mean? |
| 17:02.13 | markt__ | if you have to do it this way, then rm -rf tags/Valuation/1.4.1 && svn revert tags/Valuation |
| 17:02.17 | markt__ | then try the cp again |
| 17:02.25 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 17:02.38 | markt__ | i mean: you have a directory tags/Valuation/1.4.1/ on your local filesystem |
| 17:02.44 | krka | svn copy URL_TO_TRUNK URL_TO_NEWTAG |
| 17:03.02 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 17:03.04 | markt__ | so when you do the WC to WC copy svn thinks "oh, ok, i'll copy the Valuation directory into that directory" |
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| 17:03.25 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
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| 17:03.45 | markt__ | krka: unfortunately, Polarina has decided to do a WC to WC copy as the tag is somehow different from trunk and the proper way is not the chosen way fsr :^) |
| 17:03.57 | Polarina | polarina@unix-polarina:~/projects$ svn status tags/Valuation/ |
| 17:03.57 | Polarina | A + tags/Valuation/1.4.1 |
| 17:03.59 | Polarina | Good? |
| 17:04.08 | markt__ | that is the expected result, yes |
| 17:04.09 | krka | err... a tag that doesn't match any checked in revision? |
| 17:04.16 | markt__ | krka: i know, i know |
| 17:04.21 | Polarina | markt__: :D |
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| 17:04.38 | markt__ | i've explained how to do it properly and been ignored :-p |
| 17:04.56 | krka | sorry to hear that |
| 17:05.01 | Polarina | polarina@unix-polarina:~/projects$ svn status tags/Valuation/ |
| 17:05.01 | Polarina | A + tags/Valuation/1.4.1 |
| 17:05.01 | Polarina | D tags/Valuation/1.4.1/ValuationDB-text.lua |
| 17:05.08 | Polarina | markt__: Ready to commit. :) |
| 17:05.57 | markt__ | Polarina: fair enough - what I would have done is: svn rm ValuationDB-text.lua from trunk, svn cp that to tags, the svn merge'd the ValuationDB-text.lua file back again - that would be (IMHO) the proper way |
| 17:06.34 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 17:06.56 | CIA-41 | 03mikk 07Beta * r56134 10Ace3/docs/AceConsole-3.0.txt: |
| 17:06.56 | CIA-41 | Ace3 - docs: |
| 17:06.56 | CIA-41 | - AceConsole:GetArgs(): Explain the 1e9 bit better |
| 17:07.11 | Polarina | markt__: But the final results are the same? |
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| 17:07.56 | Xinhuan | what is inside ValuationDB-text.lua that can't be in the tags? |
| 17:08.00 | markt__ | no, because your way there is no audit trail within the repository of what has happened |
| 17:08.14 | Polarina | markt__: What do you mean? |
| 17:08.17 | evl | Does anyone know if the S2 rings will be available when S3 hits? |
| 17:08.41 | Polarina | evl: The S2 rings will be destroyed from your inventory when S3 comes out. |
| 17:09.04 | kenlyric | 48 hour ban if you have those |
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| 17:09.32 | kenlyric | and yes, I think they are, and cheaper. |
| 17:09.59 | markt__ | Polarina: i mean, usually, when you tag something, you are taking a "snapshot" of a particular path within the repository at a particular revision |
| 17:10.26 | markt__ | Polarina: but you are not - you are taking a particular revision of a particular path within the repository, hax0ring it about a bit and then committing it back |
| 17:10.34 | Polarina | markt__: But what about if I opt out of having ValuationDB-text.lua within the trunk? |
| 17:11.06 | krka | sounds more like a branch to me |
| 17:11.08 | markt__ | then it will all be good - that was what i suggested as "the proper way" up there |
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| 17:11.57 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
| 17:12.16 | Polarina | markt__: I do this in two steps, first remove that file and then tag, or all in one? |
| 17:12.35 | markt__ | first remove the file, then copy to the tag |
| 17:12.49 | Polarina | markt__: In one revision? |
| 17:13.01 | markt__ | no - first revision is removal of the file from trunk |
| 17:13.07 | markt__ | second revision is copying trunk to the tag |
| 17:13.11 | Polarina | markt__: Ok. |
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| 17:16.11 | CIA-41 | 03polarina * r56135 10Valuation/ValuationDB-text.lua: |
| 17:16.11 | CIA-41 | Valuation: |
| 17:16.11 | CIA-41 | - Removing the shiny file. ): |
| 17:16.25 | kadrahil | !seen vithos |
| 17:16.48 | markt__ | ~seen vithos |
| 17:16.50 | purl | vithos <n=vithos@unaffiliated/vithos> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12d 4h 53m 55s ago, saying: 'i just figured it'd be troublesome to do that inside an event triggered by casting'. |
| 17:17.25 | CIA-41 | 03polarina 071.4.1 * r56136 10Valuation/: |
| 17:17.25 | CIA-41 | Valuation: |
| 17:17.25 | CIA-41 | - Tagging version 1.4.1 |
| 17:17.36 | markt__ | w00t! |
| 17:18.22 | Polarina | markt__: Thank you very much! :D |
| 17:18.26 | kadrahil | Service Temporarily Unavailable |
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| 17:18.46 | markt__ | Polarina: you are welcome - I hope you learned some stuff :) |
| 17:18.48 | Polarina | kadrahil: Did you mean "Service Pemanently Unavailable"? |
| 17:18.55 | Polarina | markt__: :) |
| 17:18.59 | Jerres | Hello all, I have a problem with FuBar: When I call myaddon:UpdateTooltip() to fire the function myaddon:OnTooltipUpdate() it won't do it!!! Only when I hover with my mouse over the icon :-( |
| 17:19.01 | markt__ | Polarina: did you want your shiny file back in trunk? |
| 17:19.02 | Jerres | Can anyone give me the solution or a hint please? |
| 17:19.16 | Polarina | markt__: If possible, yes... |
| 17:19.36 | JoshBorke | Jerres: it probably checks to see if the tooltip is shown |
| 17:19.53 | Polarina | I'm then going to report a taint within CensusPlus.. |
| 17:19.54 | markt__ | well, you can either just filesystem copy it back into place and re-add it, or you could do some svn merge madness to get it back - the former is probably easiest in this case :) |
| 17:19.55 | JoshBorke | Jerres: and if not shown, it doesn't update |
| 17:20.20 | Polarina | markt__: It doesn't really matter. |
| 17:20.30 | CIA-41 | 03scorpion * r56137 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 17:20.30 | CIA-41 | Cryolysis2: |
| 17:20.30 | CIA-41 | - update zhTW localization |
| 17:20.30 | CIA-41 | - update zhCN localization |
| 17:21.01 | Jerres | JoshBorke: I know that already, I read it in the documentation, but the Icon IS shown and there is no error at all in the game :( |
| 17:21.37 | markt__ | Polarina: what does your addon do btw? :) |
| 17:22.05 | Polarina | markt__: "Partially emulates a vendor by showing on items tool-tip their worth of coins. Comes with a pre-built database." -- http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7493-Valuation.html |
| 17:22.38 | durcyn | because the world needs another item value addon |
| 17:24.20 | Xinhuan | Polarina, did you hook on 20+ GameTooltip:SetwhateverItem() functions, or hook "OnTooltipSetItem" event? |
| 17:24.26 | Xinhuan | all* |
| 17:24.27 | Polarina | durcyn: And a better one. :) |
| 17:24.37 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I had a reason not to use OnTooltipSetItem. |
| 17:24.43 | Xinhuan | what is the reason/ |
| 17:25.31 | Polarina | Xinhuan: That I couldn't accurately get the amount of items to multiply the sell price with. |
| 17:25.58 | Xinhuan | i see, i guess that is a valid reason |
| 17:27.23 | Xinhuan | although technically speaking, a tooltip won't ever know how many of the item exists from any SetwhateverItem() function anyway, and you'll have to hook the enclosing function? |
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| 17:28.00 | Cartas | Does anyone know of the registry entry that says where WoW is installed? WoWAce doesn't seem to want to find it, even if I set the right path in the options. |
| 17:28.09 | Polarina | Xinhuan: No, I call them. :) |
| 17:28.17 | dreamss | cartas |
| 17:28.28 | dreamss | when u start wow, wow writes it on the registry |
| 17:28.34 | Cartas | Oh... |
| 17:28.37 | dreamss | so staqrt wow again and it should find it |
| 17:28.40 | Xinhuan | cartas, wow doesn't use the windows registry, other than writing the install path on initial installation |
| 17:28.52 | Xinhuan | so that a windows programs "uninstall" can find it |
| 17:28.56 | Cartas | Does WoWAce, though, Xinhuan? :o |
| 17:29.02 | dreamss | hmm... local machine software blizzward wow |
| 17:29.13 | Xinhuan | WAU should read that path, but that's about it |
| 17:29.15 | Cartas | Oh yeh, it's in there. |
| 17:29.22 | Cartas | Why isn't WoWAce working then? Hmm... |
| 17:29.32 | Xinhuan | but WAU should be able to allow you to specify the path in the Preferences anyway |
| 17:29.35 | Xinhuan | so just change it there |
| 17:29.41 | Cartas | As I say, it doesn't work. |
| 17:29.46 | dreamss | i just run wau from my wow dir |
| 17:29.49 | Cartas | It resets itself to D:\My Documents. |
| 17:29.55 | Xinhuan | i change it regularly to my WoWTest folder |
| 17:29.58 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r56138 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua: BigWigs_VashjFFA: bugfix |
| 17:29.59 | Xinhuan | and back to my actual wow |
| 17:30.02 | Xinhuan | pretty often |
| 17:30.11 | dreamss | were are u running wau from cartas? |
| 17:30.25 | Cartas | No idea. :o I ran a .application once and it set itself up on the start menu. |
| 17:30.42 | dreamss | put that .aplication in ur wow folder |
| 17:30.45 | Cartas | Okay. |
| 17:30.45 | dreamss | and run it |
| 17:31.04 | dreamss | thats what i do, i have wow on a diff partition |
| 17:31.07 | Xinhuan | it sounds like you're running WAU from a place it can't write your preferences to due to folder protection |
| 17:31.23 | Xinhuan | usually a Vista issue |
| 17:31.32 | Cartas | XP :p |
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| 17:32.17 | Cartas | Thanks Dreamss! |
| 17:34.06 | dreamss | sure man |
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| 17:38.29 | Cryect | Xinhuan, WoW for some reason actually writes the game directory path to the registry everytime its run |
| 17:38.50 | Xinhuan | really? i never monitored the registry |
| 17:39.00 | Cartas | That sounds inefficient. |
| 17:39.13 | Cryect | You wouldn't really notice it unless you have multiple wow installations and using tools that read that directory |
| 17:39.28 | Xinhuan | i assume its for wow patching, so you can download wow patches to any folder, run it and the patcher will find the install path easily |
| 17:39.31 | krka | inefficient? why would you think that? |
| 17:39.50 | Cartas | You'd think it was efficient? :o |
| 17:39.55 | dreamss | heh |
| 17:39.56 | Cryect | Wouldn't call it inefficient just kinda strange |
| 17:40.03 | dreamss | it aint, its a kickass feature |
| 17:40.05 | Cartas | Well, it seems like, for the most part, useless. :o |
| 17:40.07 | Xinhuan | i think wow patch exe files check the current folder, before it searches the registry key? |
| 17:40.12 | krka | writing one entry in the registry per application launch? |
| 17:40.17 | krka | i doubt you would notice that time |
| 17:40.24 | Cartas | What does that have to do with anything? |
| 17:40.34 | Cartas | It's inefficient whether I notice the time it takes or not, surely? |
| 17:40.36 | dreamss | i like to keep wow after formats |
| 17:40.44 | dreamss | so i put wow on its own partition |
| 17:40.46 | sylvanaar_work | its smart, because you can move the game |
| 17:41.01 | Cartas | I can do with other games :o |
| 17:41.06 | Cryect | yep its good in that way you can just copy and paste the folder to another computer or on reinstall of the OS |
| 17:41.18 | sylvanaar_work | yep |
| 17:41.21 | Cryect | a lot of games bitch if you move their directory |
| 17:41.41 | Cartas | Hm... I reinstalled XP yesterday. |
| 17:41.50 | dreamss | its faster to copy wow installs than to reinstall and patch |
| 17:41.53 | dreamss | swriusly |
| 17:42.09 | Cryect | I still confused why the wow installation process is in the hours time range |
| 17:42.11 | Cartas | Didn't have to reinstall any games or applications :o |
| 17:42.11 | Cryect | I'm* |
| 17:42.33 | Cryect | you didn't wipe the OS then I'm guessing and just reinstalled over the current OS? |
| 17:42.39 | Cartas | I formatted the drive. |
| 17:43.09 | Smj | Well, then you formatted the wrong drive. |
| 17:43.22 | Smj | Or, you thought you did. |
| 17:43.34 | Cartas | Oh so that's why IRC has disappeared off my drive and I'm not actually on it now? :o |
| 17:43.41 | Cryect | You magically use almost no apps/games that don't use the registry for important information :-p |
| 17:43.48 | Cartas | lol |
| 17:43.53 | Cartas | A lot of games don't, right? :D |
| 17:43.57 | Cryect | I mean like if I wiped my registry office isn't likely to be happy |
| 17:44.05 | Cartas | Oh, actually, I reinstalled Notepad++. |
| 17:44.14 | Cartas | For the explorer right-click option. |
| 17:44.38 | Cryect | Microsoft apps are the worst at using the registry though :-p |
| 17:44.42 | Cartas | lol |
| 17:44.51 | Cartas | I haven't tried mine yet, since I reinstalled. |
| 17:45.08 | Cartas | Ah, haha. |
| 17:45.18 | Cryect | prolly tells you to reinstall when you start it |
| 17:45.18 | Cartas | 'The OS is not presently configured to run this application.' - Microsoft Word. |
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| 17:45.55 | Cartas | It was a bad move on my part to try x64 XP. Too many problems with that OS. |
| 17:46.09 | kenlyric | uhhhhh. |
| 17:46.14 | kenlyric | on a computer you want to game wiht? |
| 17:46.16 | Pkekyo| | holy jumping f....my tower had it's first 2min+ downtime in six montsh+ :p |
| 17:46.16 | kenlyric | *with |
| 17:46.18 | kenlyric | yes. |
| 17:46.29 | Cartas | Yes, kenlyric. :o |
| 17:46.40 | Cartas | The games all worked great though. They weren't the problem :D |
| 17:46.45 | kenlyric | just wait. |
| 17:46.50 | Cryect | Hmm no driver issues? |
| 17:46.52 | Pkekyo| | but everything else was, Cartas? x) |
| 17:46.53 | Cartas | Nope. |
| 17:46.58 | Cartas | My mic didn't work. |
| 17:47.06 | Cartas | Don't even think about trying to program in java... |
| 17:47.11 | Cryect | well that would be driver :-p |
| 17:47.14 | Cartas | lol |
| 17:47.18 | JoshBorke | ~lart cryect |
| 17:47.18 | purl | shoves a crumpet down cryect's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 17:47.34 | Cryect | Purl, yes please |
| 17:47.34 | purl | Do I look like an information bitch, cryect? |
| 17:47.35 | Cartas | Hm, I suppose that is, Cryect. |
| 17:47.50 | Cryect | Purl, yes you do! |
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| 17:49.04 | Cryect | hehe |
| 17:49.12 | kenlyric | ~kenlyric |
| 17:49.13 | purl | from memory, kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
| 17:49.22 | Cryect | haha |
| 17:49.28 | Pkekyo| | ahaha I love that quote |
| 17:49.30 | kenlyric | see what you did? |
| 17:49.37 | kenlyric | now she's gonna yell at me |
| 17:49.50 | Pkekyo| | and ellipsis always yells at kenlyric when someone pop that ^^ |
| 17:49.59 | Pkekyo| | damn you kenlyric, that was my line! |
| 17:50.24 | leech2k | ~leech2k |
| 17:50.25 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, leech2k is ur father! |
| 17:50.31 | leech2k | ? |
| 17:50.34 | Cryect | she could remove it :-p |
| 17:50.44 | Pkekyo| | Cryect: don't give her any ideas |
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| 18:00.02 | NeoTron | Cryect: zomg you're alive? |
| 18:00.29 | Cryect | Yeah, just not playing WoW |
| 18:00.33 | thul | hmmm |
| 18:00.35 | NeoTron | bummer |
| 18:00.38 | Cryect | Currently in process of getting ready to move |
| 18:00.41 | thul | I'm so worn out in my legs right now |
| 18:00.52 | NeoTron | have you quit wow or taking a break to, well, move? |
| 18:01.13 | Cryect | Quit WoW for the moment, working at CCP Games now |
| 18:01.34 | Cryect | I'm just kinda well tired of WoW after you know after 2.5 years or whatever :-p |
| 18:01.35 | NeoTron | eve online? |
| 18:01.41 | dylanm | Ah. |
| 18:01.45 | Cryect | For their new dev team on World of Darkness Online |
| 18:01.49 | dylanm | So really WoW would be kinda treasonous. |
| 18:01.52 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:02.00 | NeoTron | cool |
| 18:02.16 | NeoTron | instill in them the importance of an in-game damage and healing meter |
| 18:02.17 | NeoTron | :) |
| 18:02.53 | Cryect | heh if there is time and seems a reason for such a thing maybe but 4 or 5 years away from releae |
| 18:03.02 | jeramy | is there a magic name you set your mods option table to, to have niagara/rockconfig automagically pick them up? |
| 18:03.18 | NeoTron | so wait you're on iceland? or is it off-iceland studio? |
| 18:03.32 | Cryect | They opened a new studio in Atlanta |
| 18:03.46 | Cryect | Its the White Wolf location |
| 18:03.50 | NeoTron | ah ok |
| 18:03.56 | NeoTron | iceland is cool otherwise :P |
| 18:03.57 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboZhfV0bVzxZAMIo0hRo <- I think I'll do that |
| 18:04.03 | NeoTron | always wanted to go there |
| 18:04.19 | Cryect | I still get to visit Iceland every couple months apparently |
| 18:04.56 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:05.02 | Cryect | hehe |
| 18:05.24 | Cryect | I remember when I was connected by 14.4 |
| 18:08.20 | JoshBorke | so...yesterday? |
| 18:08.30 | leech2k | I stil have my old trs laptop win a 300 baud |
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| 18:08.45 | leech2k | Still works great too. |
| 18:08.47 | Cryect | more like 96 but yes that was yesterday! |
| 18:09.10 | leech2k | Nothing like 20 hour battery life off of 4 "AA" batteries. |
| 18:12.56 | NeoTron | sure it's blazing fast too |
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| 18:13.08 | leech2k | Processor: Eight-bit Intel 80C85, CMOS, 2.4 MHz |
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| 18:13.51 | leech2k | Worked plenty fast for what it did though. Pretty much a portable BBS access tool/word processor. |
| 18:14.10 | leech2k | Oh yeah and video poker :-) |
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| 18:14.44 | Cryect | very important |
| 18:14.48 | CIA-41 | 03thexod * r56139 10ItemValue/Class_StatSet.lua: |
| 18:14.48 | CIA-41 | ItemValue: |
| 18:14.48 | CIA-41 | - 2.3.0 Update: Weapon Skill -> Weapon Expertise |
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| 18:22.41 | CIA-41 | 03thexod * r56140 10ItemValue/ (Class_StatSet.lua ItemValue-deDE.lua ItemValue-enGB.lua): |
| 18:22.41 | CIA-41 | ItemValue: |
| 18:22.41 | CIA-41 | - Added localization for Weapon Expertise |
| 18:25.54 | SP|Sorren | anyone here good with parrot? |
| 18:26.04 | Gngsk | got crackers? |
| 18:26.15 | SP|Sorren | just a shotgun |
| 18:27.02 | SP|Sorren | anyway, im trying to get parrot to show arcane shot dispels, but i cant figure out how to do custom events ;o |
| 18:27.44 | Xinhuan | ok i just realized i have my thumbdrive plugged into my PC's USB for over 2 weeks - is there any negative side effects, or any recommendations about keeping thumbdrives connected? :o |
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| 18:28.02 | SP|Sorren | i keep a thumbdrive connected almost all the time for readyboost |
| 18:28.11 | Xinhuan | readyboost? |
| 18:28.15 | SP|Sorren | its a vista thing |
| 18:28.19 | SP|Sorren | supposedly makes it faster |
| 18:28.39 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't lower or kill the thumbdrives' lifespan just because its "on" all the time? |
| 18:28.54 | Ktwo | it might lower the life-term... but you wont notice it |
| 18:28.55 | JoshBorke | bb |
| 18:30.36 | Mudkips | Xinhuan, it gives you cancer O_O |
| 18:30.54 | SP|Sorren | readyboost or the thumb drive? |
| 18:31.13 | Mudkips | all of the above |
| 18:31.35 | SP|Sorren | i see. |
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| 18:32.49 | Cartas | You could get a virus, Xinhuan! |
| 18:32.54 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 18:32.58 | Cartas | lol |
| 18:33.50 | haste | isn't readyboost just vista swapping on the stick? |
| 18:34.24 | Xinhuan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost |
| 18:34.28 | Xinhuan | according to that article |
| 18:34.33 | SP|Sorren | hell if i know, i had an extra stick i wasn't using that advertised readyboost on teh box lulz |
| 18:34.38 | Xinhuan | readyboost encrypts everything put on it using AES-128 |
| 18:36.16 | Xinhuan | However, on systems with 1 GB or more, ReadyBoost has a negligible effect (small enough to be explained as experimental error)[citation needed |
| 18:36.19 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 18:36.27 | Xinhuan | quoted from the article |
| 18:36.38 | RaydenUni | so servers are down right now? |
| 18:36.52 | SP|Sorren | for another hour and a half of blizzard time |
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| 18:37.14 | RaydenUni | bummer |
| 18:37.19 | RaydenUni | guess i won't try to get on then |
| 18:37.26 | SP|Sorren | test is up ;p |
| 18:37.54 | grennon | superfetch is the other wonderful vista technology |
| 18:38.16 | Mudkips | orders pizza for you? |
| 18:38.20 | SP|Sorren | i wish |
| 18:38.27 | grennon | it makes your drive churn for about 15 minutes after you get done starting |
| 18:38.40 | grennon | cripples your performance until its done cacheing its data |
| 18:38.47 | SP|Sorren | its not that bad |
| 18:39.02 | grennon | its not bad, it just makes your real startup time much much longer |
| 18:39.07 | SP|Sorren | it churns for ~minute or so, and thats it |
| 18:39.19 | SP|Sorren | nah, its no longer than xp took to start up way back when :/ |
| 18:39.27 | grennon | i was playing bioshock, halflife, wow, and some other games a lot |
| 18:39.30 | Ktwo | its not worth to sacrifice an usb port^^ |
| 18:39.38 | kenlyric | churning for 15 minutes is the sidebar. |
| 18:39.42 | grennon | superfetch spent a ton of time churning disk loading all that |
| 18:39.52 | grennon | sidebar/aero disabled |
| 18:40.11 | SP|Sorren | well i play tf2, wow and cod now :/ |
| 18:40.12 | Mudkips | vista bashin? |
| 18:40.15 | Mudkips | g |
| 18:40.23 | SP|Sorren | ~1 minute or so of churn when it boot |
| 18:40.24 | SP|Sorren | s |
| 18:40.24 | Mudkips | I don't see any bashing |
| 18:40.36 | Cryect | I'm confused why you would want to use a slow flash drive over just buying more RAM |
| 18:40.38 | neenee | Complaining about 'wonderful vista technology' then. |
| 18:40.41 | grennon | on a 2G or less ram system, superfetch might be better disabled since it seems to use 100+ MB of ran on its own |
| 18:40.45 | SP|Sorren | i do admit that ive seen nothing of this usb stick |
| 18:40.51 | SP|Sorren | i should just give it to my sister :/ |
| 18:41.10 | SP|Sorren | her birthday was like 3 weeks ago though, maybe i can pass it off as a cheapo xmas gift |
| 18:41.11 | SP|Sorren | kek |
| 18:41.12 | Mudkips | is she hot? |
| 18:41.20 | SP|Sorren | no, stay away. |
| 18:41.34 | Mudkips | but I got a cool van |
| 18:41.39 | Mudkips | maybe she wants to check it out |
| 18:41.50 | Mudkips | I just upholstered the inside and it's totally new |
| 18:41.57 | SP|Sorren | you're free to ask her |
| 18:42.14 | Mudkips | Can you ask her for me? I'm shy.. |
| 18:43.17 | SP|Sorren | she bought mace like 2 weeks ago for herself, the packaging was hilarious |
| 18:43.41 | kenlyric | Cryect: it's specifically designed for systems where ram upgrades are difficult or not cost effective (like a laptop) |
| 18:44.12 | kenlyric | especiallly since laptop systems tend to have underwhelming ram totals in comparison to cpu. |
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| 18:46.42 | RaydenUni | i like how people ask on this blog post if people still farm for honor in WSG |
| 18:46.44 | RaydenUni | lol of course |
| 18:46.48 | RaydenUni | it happened to me yesterday |
| 18:46.58 | RaydenUni | the flag carrier brought the flag back to our base so he could partake in the farming |
| 18:47.01 | kenlyric | that blog post was so incredibly dumb. |
| 18:47.17 | Cartas | Blogs are dumb. |
| 18:47.26 | kenlyric | WSG with no DR would never end. |
| 18:47.35 | kenlyric | and if you didn't need those tokens to buy stuff, I'd say bravo. |
| 18:47.44 | kenlyric | since it fucking never ends anyway. |
| 18:47.48 | xyu | WSG is the only "real" arena |
| 18:47.56 | xyu | er bg |
| 18:48.23 | xyu | all the rest are baad |
| 18:48.51 | neenee | WSG and EOTS are the least fun I think :| |
| 18:48.57 | Cartas | EOTS is horrible. |
| 18:48.59 | neenee | Though they dumbed down AV |
| 18:49.02 | xyu | yes eye is the worst for sure |
| 18:49.06 | NivFreak | I hate EotS |
| 18:49.10 | grennon | WSG needs a drop dead timer for flags, matches can go way too long |
| 18:49.17 | Cartas | I like WSG... as a protection warrior, it's the only thing I'm really useful for! :$ |
| 18:49.24 | xyu | if you can't kill the flag carrier, good for him |
| 18:49.29 | xyu | lrn2 pom pyro |
| 18:49.30 | xyu | :P |
| 18:49.34 | NivFreak | spell reflect! |
| 18:49.44 | NivFreak | I can turtle the flag for a long ass time |
| 18:49.48 | NivFreak | with one healer |
| 18:49.58 | Cartas | Depends :D |
| 18:50.02 | xyu | well |
| 18:50.03 | xyu | I take back what i said |
| 18:50.08 | grennon | nothing like a good graveyard turtle |
| 18:50.11 | xyu | WSG is the best bg for organized vs organized |
| 18:50.15 | NivFreak | I turtle it in the flag room |
| 18:50.16 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 18:50.24 | Cartas | AV was nice for fixed v fixed :D |
| 18:50.26 | RaydenUni | <kenlyric> since it fucking never ends anyway. <-- if we are talking about the same post, most of the discussion is about changing WSG to be timed or reducing honor gained over time |
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| 18:50.31 | grennon | ive been in premade vs premade that have been over an hour |
| 18:50.31 | Cartas | I remember doing guild v guild in AV... good times. |
| 18:50.41 | xyu | Grennon: and that would be awesome |
| 18:50.42 | thul | hehe |
| 18:50.46 | grennon | you are exhausted after that kind of match |
| 18:50.50 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: guess not. The post I'm talking about is removing DR from honor gains. |
| 18:50.57 | xyu | But it's exciting imo |
| 18:50.59 | RaydenUni | <xyu> if you can't kill the flag carrier, good for him <-- 10 twinks vs 10 non-twinks. the 10 twinks get 2 flag caps and then don't cap anymore. they just kill you over and over, what can you do? |
| 18:51.06 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/26/do-bgs-need-diminishing-returns/ |
| 18:51.09 | kenlyric | if nobody caps a flag in 10 minutes, I /afk |
| 18:51.09 | Cartas | I think my max was 2hrs30mins, Grennon. |
| 18:51.10 | RaydenUni | they talk about DR as well |
| 18:51.25 | xyu | RaydenUni: go out and level like you should |
| 18:51.29 | grennon | all i want is a drop dead time on the flag, if its not capped within 5 minutes of being taken, it resets |
| 18:51.32 | xyu | Leave the low level bg's to twinks |
| 18:51.33 | RaydenUni | xyu you don't see a problem with that? |
| 18:51.36 | xyu | nope |
| 18:51.39 | grennon | make the match about running flags, not about holding them |
| 18:51.46 | xyu | Low lvl bg's belong to the twinks |
| 18:51.52 | xyu | as they should |
| 18:51.52 | RaydenUni | so you don't think we should try to make battlegrounds faster paced or more interesting? |
| 18:51.55 | Cartas | That's not fair though, really, Grennon. |
| 18:51.55 | kenlyric | grennon: one flag, too. |
| 18:51.59 | Cryect | who really plays low level bgs besides twinks? |
| 18:52.04 | thul | bah, I hate specs. |
| 18:52.06 | xyu | exactly Cryect |
| 18:52.09 | many | i did |
| 18:52.09 | Cartas | Because I'd wait for the enemy team to take a flag, then I'd pick their flag. |
| 18:52.15 | Cartas | Then after 5mins I can cap. |
| 18:52.16 | Cartas | :o |
| 18:52.17 | Cryect | I mean you might play a game or two |
| 18:52.23 | Cartas | Wheover takes the flag later wins, Grennon! |
| 18:52.31 | Cryect | but you aren't going to sit there and play 100's of games unless you plan to twink yourself as well |
| 18:52.35 | RaydenUni | well now all sorts of non-twinks play them for the daily quests |
| 18:52.35 | xyu | I like to run their flag on their own roof. |
| 18:52.39 | many | i did |
| 18:52.45 | RaydenUni | they should make getting twink gear easier |
| 18:52.49 | RaydenUni | that way everyone would be similar |
| 18:52.59 | Cryect | many, if you are going to play low level bg's instead of leveling why not twink yourself? |
| 18:53.01 | RaydenUni | make the best twink gear purchaseable for smi-cheap |
| 18:53.02 | xyu | that would kind of ruin twinks |
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| 18:53.07 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 18:53.16 | RaydenUni | i twould make the games more interesting since you win based on skill and teamwork not gear |
| 18:53.20 | many | becuase i wanted the fucking honor marks for my non-twink |
| 18:53.22 | grennon | look, ive been in 10 man turtle matches where the entire premade including our flag carrier is forced to rush the other base to kill their carrier |
| 18:53.40 | xyu | Yea, but isn't that great? |
| 18:53.42 | RaydenUni | been there as well |
| 18:53.42 | many | i never seen why people do "BG twinks" |
| 18:53.44 | RaydenUni | no it sucks |
| 18:53.56 | grennon | the other team is controlling the match by turtling |
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| 18:53.59 | RaydenUni | many because they like to play battlegrounds and the ONLY way to be competitive is to twink |
| 18:54.06 | grennon | they dictate that you either 10 man rush or /afk |
| 18:54.08 | Cryect | Nor I really but I don't see why you PvP at that low level either since the PvP in WoW is awful |
| 18:54.09 | Cartas | I usually carry the flag, Grennon. I take it and then wait in the centre to run head-on into their flag-carrier. |
| 18:54.13 | many | aha |
| 18:54.13 | Cartas | Best way to end a match quickly, I find. |
| 18:54.14 | xyu | grennon: i've never seen a match actually WON |
| 18:54.14 | grennon | what they really want is you to /afk |
| 18:54.15 | xyu | by turtling |
| 18:54.27 | grennon | and that is griefing |
| 18:54.29 | RaydenUni | no but it's fricking annoying |
| 18:54.31 | xyu | in organized vs organized |
| 18:54.45 | many | honestly, i wouldnt care to earn my marks by sitting only. |
| 18:54.52 | many | "earn" ;) |
| 18:55.06 | xyu | I dont care when premades camp my pug group at our gy, i actually have fun |
| 18:55.20 | RaydenUni | i don't mind getting owned by a premade team |
| 18:55.29 | xyu | maybe i'm strange, i just like the overwhelming odds |
| 18:55.31 | RaydenUni | what i can't stand is when they purposefully do not end the game just so they can farm us for honor |
| 18:55.42 | RaydenUni | i've played several games were horde didn't get a SINGLE KILL |
| 18:55.46 | RaydenUni | what fun is that? |
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| 18:56.03 | DreadWingKnight | the new valley won't take 4 days to finish one anymore though |
| 18:56.13 | Cartas | It doesn't now? :o |
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| 18:56.28 | DreadWingKnight | old days (before I started in on pvp) it did |
| 18:56.38 | Cartas | When it first came out? |
| 18:56.48 | Cartas | Good time. |
| 18:56.50 | Cartas | s! |
| 18:56.51 | DreadWingKnight | back in the old rank days I think |
| 18:56.57 | RaydenUni | i wish i was in charge of making battlegrounds |
| 18:56.59 | Cartas | You could do guild v guild in AV. |
| 18:57.12 | DreadWingKnight | can't anymore |
| 18:57.16 | Cartas | Sadly :( |
| 18:57.17 | kenlyric | so, somehow I got bonus honor out of a WSG where we didn't cap a flag. |
| 18:57.25 | kenlyric | did they add something? |
| 18:57.25 | RaydenUni | did you return a flag? |
| 18:57.26 | Cartas | It was great doing 40v40 fixeds though :D |
| 18:57.29 | DreadWingKnight | with the new stuff they've done, I'd say they should bring it back in |
| 18:57.30 | RaydenUni | i think you get honor from that |
| 18:57.34 | kenlyric | is that new? |
| 18:57.38 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 18:57.47 | Cartas | Remember that annoying troll in AV? |
| 18:57.52 | Cartas | That was the worst thing ever :@ |
| 18:57.53 | xyu | yeah |
| 18:57.55 | xyu | in the middle |
| 18:57.55 | xyu | lol |
| 18:57.58 | xyu | he pwned people |
| 18:57.59 | Cartas | Then he got moved to Iceblood. |
| 18:58.02 | kenlyric | I like AB and EoTS and (now) AV because they all will eventually end. |
| 18:58.03 | Cartas | Snowfall* |
| 18:58.14 | RaydenUni | yes WSG is the worst |
| 18:58.17 | xyu | although I did remember tring to get that Ice Lord's ring for SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long |
| 18:58.17 | Cartas | I've never liked EotS, tbh... |
| 18:58.19 | kenlyric | and it's nearly impossible not to get some bonus honor out of them. |
| 18:58.21 | Cartas | I find EotS to be the worst :P |
| 18:58.26 | xyu | i did end up getting it, i solo tapped it, and dragged it into the alliance |
| 18:58.32 | Cartas | lol |
| 18:58.32 | xyu | and they killed it for me. |
| 18:58.33 | xyu | i still have it |
| 18:58.36 | xyu | for memories |
| 18:58.40 | kenlyric | even a five cap in AB usually can get 200 resources out of the stables :) |
| 18:58.47 | RaydenUni | at least none of the season 1 gear is sold for WSG it's all AB, AV, and EOTS i think, or maybe one WSG |
| 18:58.49 | xyu | along w/ the Ice turban too. |
| 18:58.59 | Cartas | WSG is by far the bestest. |
| 18:59.00 | xyu | both no long in the game i believe, which is cool :) |
| 18:59.01 | DreadWingKnight | leggings are 30 warsong |
| 18:59.03 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 18:59.10 | kenlyric | the one thing I wanted to buy. |
| 18:59.22 | Amadeo | kenlyric wears leggings |
| 18:59.30 | kenlyric | you can't see them under my dress |
| 18:59.32 | Cartas | 30 WSG? Nice. |
| 18:59.32 | Ozguli | WSG? Ewww! |
| 18:59.36 | xyu | WSG > * |
| 18:59.38 | Cartas | I have 100 WSG tokens :P |
| 18:59.42 | xyu | me too |
| 18:59.46 | Mudkips | I have 100 of each BG |
| 18:59.47 | DreadWingKnight | a full pvp set only needs 50 warsong marks |
| 18:59.48 | Mudkips | except eots |
| 18:59.49 | xyu | i have 100 of every token but EyE |
| 18:59.50 | Mudkips | i got like 90... |
| 18:59.53 | xyu | i have 8 |
| 18:59.53 | RaydenUni | WSG can be fun if both teams are good |
| 18:59.59 | Cartas | Same, EotS is by far the worst, right, Xyu? |
| 19:00.01 | RaydenUni | but there is so much opportunity for griefing |
| 19:00.02 | Amadeo | The only BG I hate is Arathi Basin |
| 19:00.16 | kenlyric | I only recently started doing pvp for practical purposes. |
| 19:00.17 | Ozguli | AB was cool on lvl 69 as shadowstep rogue o.O |
| 19:00.20 | xyu | Yes, eye is by far the worst. |
| 19:00.21 | RaydenUni | i like AB better than WSG |
| 19:00.25 | Mudkips | I agree that WSG premade vs premade can be real good matches |
| 19:00.26 | kenlyric | I still can't manage more than 3 or 4 games at one time. |
| 19:00.32 | Cartas | WSG > AB > AV > EotS, IMO :) |
| 19:00.33 | Mudkips | until it turns into a tiring 1 hour turtle flag |
| 19:00.41 | xyu | AB is so unforgiving imo. In a very good premade vs premade, whoever gets the 3 cap first wins imo. |
| 19:00.47 | kenlyric | plus all the AFK you have to do out of WSG |
| 19:00.48 | xyu | It's VERY hard to get back a 3 cap |
| 19:01.01 | xyu | when both teams are well geared |
| 19:01.07 | DreadWingKnight | I've been on a team that was down 500 and last-second 5-capped |
| 19:01.15 | DreadWingKnight | 40-49 bracket |
| 19:01.15 | xyu | haha yeah i've seen that |
| 19:01.30 | DreadWingKnight | I even uploaded the scorecard screenshot |
| 19:01.36 | xyu | AB definately makes for exciting finishes |
| 19:01.45 | xyu | those 1990 - 2000 games |
| 19:01.54 | RaydenUni | most of the AB i've been in go one way or the other, no close games |
| 19:02.09 | DreadWingKnight | http://depthstrike.com/~dwknight/blog/2007/11/brink-of-death.html <-- this one was a 1990-2000 game |
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| 19:02.30 | Mudkips | lolblog |
| 19:02.52 | Ozguli | I just have plain folder structure... |
| 19:02.59 | DreadWingKnight | the things we talk about while waiting for realms to come back |
| 19:03.10 | Mudkips | I'm at work |
| 19:03.12 | RaydenUni | hmmi don't have any screenshots where we lost with 0 kills |
| 19:03.22 | xyu | lol |
| 19:03.35 | Mudkips | you got owned? |
| 19:03.40 | Mudkips | premades do that to you |
| 19:03.47 | RaydenUni | when the other team is all twinks and none of us are you can't do anything |
| 19:03.48 | xyu | Anyone get R14 in here? |
| 19:04.02 | Mudkips | is that high warlord? |
| 19:04.05 | xyu | I went to 13, but competition on my server was ridiculous |
| 19:04.07 | xyu | yea |
| 19:04.12 | Amadeo | I was R14 before I even started WoW! |
| 19:04.18 | Mudkips | i went to rank 11 for the mount |
| 19:04.28 | Mudkips | then I stopped after ending up in a good raiding guild |
| 19:04.39 | Mudkips | because pvp actually required you to pvp all day back in 60 |
| 19:04.41 | xyu | to get HW you needed about 600,000-800,000 honor every single time |
| 19:04.41 | Mudkips | to actually earn it |
| 19:04.44 | xyu | on my server |
| 19:05.08 | Cartas | I was the first on my server to 'Legionnaire'! |
| 19:05.13 | thul | hmm, when can one log into the server again? |
| 19:05.25 | xyu | If you weren't in 1 of the 2 static pvp groups farming honor, you could not make it, impossible |
| 19:05.25 | Cartas | lol |
| 19:05.25 | RaydenUni | http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5017/orgabpewpewdj5.jpg <-- games like this |
| 19:05.29 | RaydenUni | so much fun :| |
| 19:05.33 | Cartas | I got LEgionnaire the very same day they implemented WSG and AV. |
| 19:06.39 | DreadWingKnight | thul: at least an hour |
| 19:06.56 | DreadWingKnight | any of you consider making your own "What's your game" ads? |
| 19:06.59 | xyu | so much drama over getting Rank 14 on our server, people would call blizzard and fake that their account is being hacked and give the name of the player trying to get R14 |
| 19:07.08 | Cartas | lol |
| 19:07.09 | xyu | and blizz froze his account until they "Figured it out" |
| 19:07.11 | RaydenUni | DreadWingKnight it can't compare to Mr T's |
| 19:07.18 | thul | I really want to make a pvp movie with classical movie |
| 19:07.21 | thul | classical music |
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| 19:07.23 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/stats.jpg |
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| 19:07.28 | RaydenUni | thul Ave Maria |
| 19:07.32 | thul | for instance |
| 19:07.34 | Cartas | :o |
| 19:07.39 | Cartas | RaydenUni! That's great :) |
| 19:07.39 | Ozguli | games like that... when I didn't feel like bothering |
| 19:07.49 | RaydenUni | is that comic sans? |
| 19:07.50 | thul | or pop-classical: lara fabian - adagio |
| 19:07.50 | thul | i love that song :-P |
| 19:08.06 | RaydenUni | i should find the metal guitar classical music cd i have |
| 19:08.07 | xyu | I have a WSG screenshot of me @ like 33 killing blows and the next person at 6 |
| 19:08.10 | xyu | tab fireblast ftw! |
| 19:08.21 | RaydenUni | killing blows are silly though |
| 19:08.32 | xyu | yeah, this was before dmg done though :/ |
| 19:08.34 | Amadeo | all the numbers are silly |
| 19:08.37 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 19:08.49 | Ozguli | eheheh I'm #1 dmg done too :P |
| 19:08.50 | Amadeo | Warlocks can just spam SoC and top the charts if they want to |
| 19:08.52 | DreadWingKnight | HKs you only need to be within what? 60 yards? |
| 19:08.54 | RaydenUni | on my 19 druid i can be at the VERY TOP for HK and at the very bottom for dmg. entangling roots ftw! |
| 19:08.56 | Amadeo | so they really don't mean anything at all |
| 19:09.00 | Amadeo | just play and win the BG :P |
| 19:09.00 | RaydenUni | DreadWingKnight i think you have to do damage |
| 19:09.01 | thul | http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Jb2uDxrMIU |
| 19:09.04 | DreadWingKnight | no |
| 19:09.06 | DreadWingKnight | you don't |
| 19:09.13 | RaydenUni | maybe damage or proximity |
| 19:09.14 | xyu | Amadeo: think of the epeen!!! It matters omgomg1 |
| 19:09.14 | DreadWingKnight | I've gotten hks without dealing damage before |
| 19:09.20 | DreadWingKnight | I'm thinking proximity |
| 19:09.29 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 19:09.30 | RaydenUni | i've gotten HK when i'm not close to anyone |
| 19:09.34 | Ozguli | indeed! |
| 19:09.36 | cncfanatics | why do people change inside jokes on wiki pages ? |
| 19:09.40 | DreadWingKnight | it's probably 41-60 yards or something like that |
| 19:09.40 | Amadeo | xyu: I'm comfortable in my manhood ;) |
| 19:09.42 | xyu | btw: pvp videos are dumb. ^^ |
| 19:10.23 | Ozguli | what about pve videos? |
| 19:10.28 | RaydenUni | only because they are 30 minutes of 5 second CRITCRITCRIT! |
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| 19:10.44 | xyu | here's all you need to know when making a pvp video, it has all the elements |
| 19:10.44 | xyu | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1393677960885570768&q=my+first+pvp+video&total=3813&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 |
| 19:11.28 | RaydenUni | oh yeah |
| 19:11.31 | RaydenUni | i've seen that one :P |
| 19:11.33 | Ozguli | I don't go CRITCRIT CRIT nowadays, but hit hit hit stun hit hit hit hit hit hit hit stun *rinse and repeat* |
| 19:12.15 | RaydenUni | on my druid i go: entangling roots "go team kill!" |
| 19:12.45 | SP|Sorren | xyu: nice |
| 19:12.50 | RaydenUni | why can't pitbull figure out the hp of the enemy in bg? |
| 19:12.56 | Ozguli | that vid is awful |
| 19:13.07 | Aens|Superiority | Ozguli: its a parody |
| 19:13.08 | RaydenUni | Ozguli it's a parody |
| 19:13.38 | Ozguli | and my comment wasn't meant to be taken seriously |
| 19:13.45 | Ozguli | it's still painful to watch.. |
| 19:13.49 | RaydenUni | still, it let me pwn Aens|Superiority in response time |
| 19:13.54 | DreadWingKnight | 11,01 »»9 MPClassic 11«»9 [93:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|9] south.park.1008.proper.dsr.xvid-kyr 11«»9 00:04 / 22:00 11«»9 512x384 11«»9 23.994 fps 11«»9 ~135.2KB/s 11«»9 174.28MB 11«« XviD MPEG-4 codec - |
| 19:14.01 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 19:14.07 | RaydenUni | 3 minutes in, backstreet boys music |
| 19:14.09 | RaydenUni | forgot about that |
| 19:14.17 | DreadWingKnight | whoever doesn't recognie the episode number of this |
| 19:14.20 | xyu | yeah lol |
| 19:14.21 | DreadWingKnight | needs a good clubbing |
| 19:14.31 | RaydenUni | i don't watch south park much |
| 19:14.35 | Ozguli | RaydenUni actually |
| 19:14.41 | Ozguli | -21:13:05- (Aens|Superiority) Ozguli: its a parody |
| 19:14.41 | Ozguli | -21:13:05- (RaydenUni) Ozguli it's a parody |
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| 19:14.47 | DreadWingKnight | you only need to watch season 10, ep 8 |
| 19:14.49 | RaydenUni | on mine i see me first :P |
| 19:14.55 | DreadWingKnight | you can skip any others |
| 19:15.04 | RaydenUni | which ep is that? |
| 19:15.45 | RaydenUni | why can't pitbull figure out the hp of the enemy in bg? |
| 19:15.46 | RaydenUni | anyone? |
| 19:15.47 | xyu | if u want 2 download this movie click this link C:\DOcuments and Settings\Dads Computer\My Documents\mymovie.wmv lol |
| 19:16.19 | DreadWingKnight | episode title: "Make love, not warcraft" |
| 19:16.34 | xyu | "mooom, bathroom, moooooom" |
| 19:17.08 | xyu | btw, our first time into Hyjal and we 1 shot 3 bosses /happy |
| 19:17.09 | DreadWingKnight | they've been debating about putting in the sword |
| 19:17.10 | xyu | lastnight |
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| 19:17.35 | RaydenUni | i saw that ep |
| 19:17.44 | RaydenUni | well i guess i should be productive while wow is down |
| 19:17.45 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 19:18.06 | DreadWingKnight | fuck that |
| 19:18.13 | DreadWingKnight | procrastination ftw |
| 19:18.20 | thul | when does patch hit europe? |
| 19:18.22 | thul | 00:00 GMT? |
| 19:18.24 | RaydenUni | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:18.32 | RaydenUni | and i need to get paid, so i need to talk to my client |
| 19:19.18 | Ozguli | btw, "This is madness!" Proc in arena when the last opponent goes down is priceless |
| 19:20.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. did 2.3.2 hit today? |
| 19:21.20 | NeoTron | xyu: our first night we had just 22 ppl but we oneshot rage at least |
| 19:21.34 | DreadWingKnight | 2.3.2 is on ptr last I heard |
| 19:21.37 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: Nope |
| 19:21.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: thanks |
| 19:21.44 | Amadeo | Unless it's clientpatch-free :P |
| 19:21.49 | NightHawkTheSane | unlikely. :P |
| 19:22.31 | Xuerian | Man, what the hell.... Only downside to this dang client is it doesn't have a highlight list, just tells me I got pinged. |
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| 19:23.11 | Amadeo | Did you feel that? |
| 19:23.18 | DreadWingKnight | no |
| 19:23.22 | DreadWingKnight | musta been gas |
| 19:23.38 | Xuerian | ooo. |
| 19:23.42 | Xuerian | A little to the left |
| 19:23.46 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:23.55 | thul | irssi ftw. |
| 19:24.07 | Xuerian | Woh, too deep X.x |
| 19:24.47 | DreadWingKnight | realm status forums are probably victim of the /. effect |
| 19:25.10 | xyu | FOr your boredum!! http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2006/12/sebspeakerwg2.jpg |
| 19:25.11 | xyu | classic |
| 19:25.18 | Ozguli | /. can't be a valid adress |
| 19:25.39 | Shadowed | say it out loud |
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| 19:25.47 | Shadowed | then add an .org at the end of what you said |
| 19:26.04 | Amadeo | forward slash period.org |
| 19:26.18 | DreadWingKnight | slashdot |
| 19:26.19 | DreadWingKnight | duh |
| 19:26.25 | krka | your irc client doesn't let you type: ? |
| 19:26.29 | krka | /period.org |
| 19:30.21 | Industrial | Anyone use Avion? I can't get it to work |
| 19:31.05 | Industrial | its loaded according to OptionHouse but its not in niagara and no slash command |
| 19:31.06 | Industrial | :\ |
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| 19:33.29 | thul | hmm |
| 19:33.55 | Amadeo | that deux ex 3 announcement the other day makes me want to play the first one again |
| 19:34.31 | thul | deus ex rocks so much |
| 19:34.36 | thul | on so many levels. |
| 19:35.00 | thul | 05-11 maintenance :-( no swords before tomorrow night |
| 19:36.23 | thul | Pkekyo|: i need warrior lvling tips again :-P |
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| 19:37.22 | Antiarc | Warrior levelling: Enslave a shaman and go nuts |
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| 19:38.56 | thul | :-P |
| 19:39.01 | Chompers | Antiarc: you seen the weapon effect of executioner? |
| 19:39.03 | Chompers | oh my |
| 19:39.04 | Amadeo | Female Shaman, preferably |
| 19:39.13 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's sexy looking |
| 19:39.17 | Chompers | just saw it for the first time today |
| 19:39.22 | Chompers | it's amazing |
| 19:39.31 | Health | Servers up yet? |
| 19:39.36 | Antiarc | Not US |
| 19:40.07 | dylanm | No. |
| 19:40.07 | Chompers | gonna buy the arena main hand and get that on it |
| 19:40.08 | Chompers | yum |
| 19:40.34 | Mudkips | o yeah |
| 19:40.41 | Mudkips | I just got exalted with org yesterday |
| 19:40.47 | Mudkips | what color wolf should I buy? |
| 19:40.52 | Mudkips | im tired of my ram now |
| 19:41.05 | Ozguli | !ar 1400 |
| 19:41.05 | ThraeBot | Ozguli: Arena rating from 1400 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 2412 |
| 19:41.07 | Amadeo | I love my Ram, probably the last ground mount I'll use! |
| 19:41.15 | Ozguli | ee |
| 19:41.21 | Ozguli | !ap 1400 |
| 19:41.22 | ThraeBot | Ozguli: Arena points from a rating of 1400 is, 2v2: 244, 3v3: 283, 5v5: 322 |
| 19:41.33 | thul | when is the whirldwind quest? |
| 19:41.35 | Ozguli | is that the default, or 1600? |
| 19:41.59 | Amadeo | thul: Around 30-31 I think |
| 19:41.59 | Ozguli | thul I like my broom |
| 19:42.12 | Antiarc | You get the WW quest at 30, but it's not soloable until close to 40 |
| 19:42.15 | Mudkips | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Fukdruidsgrr |
| 19:42.16 | thul | ok |
| 19:42.16 | Mudkips | LOL |
| 19:42.18 | Antiarc | So you'll need to get a buddy to help out |
| 19:42.19 | thul | Ozguli: hmm? :-P |
| 19:42.27 | thul | Antiarc: ok |
| 19:42.28 | Ozguli | from hallow's end |
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| 19:44.23 | thul | i just want to assrape clothies with a 2h at lvl 70 :-P |
| 19:44.25 | CIA-41 | 03jncl * r56141 10Skinner/ (16 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:44.25 | CIA-41 | Skinner: Skinned TradeJunkie & ForteWarlock |
| 19:44.25 | CIA-41 | - Moved Auc-Advanced sode into its own skin |
| 19:44.25 | CIA-41 | - Updated RockConfig, TourGuide, PerlClassic, Cartographer, Auctioneer, SmartBuff, Badapples & Xperl skins |
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| 19:47.37 | Gnarfoz | 2.3.2 is not today/tomorrow, right? |
| 19:48.30 | NivFreak | nope |
| 19:51.14 | SP|Sorren | sigh, anyone here have vista? |
| 19:52.10 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 19:52.12 | sag_ich_nicht | diaf. |
| 19:52.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: nope |
| 19:55.22 | Ktwo | yes:P |
| 19:58.17 | Arcaia | Dual Display + 1 Widescreen Monitor 22" 1680x1024 + 17" 1360x1024 + World of Warcraft + WoWhead.com = WIN. |
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| 19:58.33 | k_ | dual 22's is better ;p |
| 19:58.46 | Arcaia | Yes - but I'm not rich. |
| 19:58.48 | k_ | and 1680x1050 is a better res ;p |
| 19:58.54 | k_ | its proportionate |
| 19:58.58 | Arcaia | 1680x1050** |
| 19:59.00 | Arcaia | yea |
| 19:59.02 | k_ | hehe |
| 19:59.07 | k_ | figured it was a typo ;p |
| 19:59.10 | Arcaia | I typed 1024 while I was thinking of the second screen res |
| 19:59.15 | k_ | aye |
| 19:59.26 | k_ | ya man i use two samsung 226bw's |
| 19:59.32 | Amadeo | 1360x1024?? |
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| 19:59.39 | k_ | ya thats 1360x768 |
| 19:59.44 | k_ | not 1024 ;p |
| 19:59.52 | k_ | or you talking 1280x024 |
| 19:59.54 | Stanzilla | 1280x1024 = best for 17" |
| 19:59.55 | k_ | 1024* |
| 20:00.04 | k_ | yep |
| 20:00.11 | Amadeo | 1280x1024 seems too high for a 17" |
| 20:00.12 | kebinusan | 1280x1024 should only be used on monitors with a 5:4 aspect ratio |
| 20:00.17 | k_ | as long as you dont have one of the gimp 17" that has like 2" border |
| 20:00.22 | k_ | then its usually a little small hehe |
| 20:00.28 | Amadeo | You'd probably have to make your fonts huge |
| 20:00.50 | Stanzilla | <- 1920x1200 on 24" |
| 20:00.57 | Arcaia | no 1360x1024 |
| 20:01.01 | Arcaia | trust me on this ;P |
| 20:01.12 | Amadeo | Stanzilla: That's 7" larger than a 17" :P |
| 20:01.12 | k_ | personally i always liked 1152x864 on 17s |
| 20:01.31 | k_ | keeps the 4:3 |
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| 20:01.44 | RaydenUni | yeah but wtf is 1152 or 864? |
| 20:01.58 | k_ | random numbers that divide evenly by 4 and 3? |
| 20:01.59 | k_ | lol |
| 20:02.10 | k_ | no clue man hehe |
| 20:02.13 | RaydenUni | i like my 1680x1050 22" |
| 20:02.17 | Amadeo | I run 1280x960 on this old 21" CRT :P I'd go higher but the refresh rate is too low :( |
| 20:02.22 | RaydenUni | just wish my comp was faster so wow wouldn't lag at that res |
| 20:02.36 | k_ | hehe i play wow at 1680x1050 ;p |
| 20:02.42 | k_ | only really lag in org |
| 20:02.48 | RaydenUni | i lag in most of outlands |
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| 20:02.50 | RaydenUni | 9700 Pro |
| 20:02.54 | k_ | and lag i mean by 30fps |
| 20:02.59 | k_ | so not really lag |
| 20:03.05 | RaydenUni | 15 fps in outlands |
| 20:03.07 | k_ | ouch |
| 20:03.09 | RaydenUni | 5-10 in shattrath? |
| 20:03.14 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: OpenGL? |
| 20:03.15 | k_ | ya i get like sold 100fps in outland |
| 20:03.24 | RaydenUni | i don't know, i havne't played with that Amadeo |
| 20:03.28 | k_ | then again im running an 8800gt |
| 20:03.33 | RaydenUni | you lag in org? |
| 20:03.36 | k_ | a little |
| 20:03.40 | RaydenUni | that's odd |
| 20:03.40 | Hallucinosis | Time for an upgrade! |
| 20:03.41 | k_ | only on really busy days |
| 20:03.44 | RaydenUni | not in shattrath? |
| 20:03.45 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: I'm just wondering, I've noticed that OpenGL performance in WoW is pretty poor |
| 20:03.47 | k_ | when there is like |
| 20:03.49 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 20:03.52 | k_ | 500 ppl at the bank |
| 20:03.54 | RaydenUni | i'll check it next time i'm on my desktop |
| 20:03.57 | k_ | and by lag i mean like 30fps |
| 20:04.04 | k_ | not insane lag just noticeable slowdown |
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| 20:04.11 | k_ | still totally playable |
| 20:04.24 | Hallucinosis | my last upgrade (november) made wow run amazing all the time |
| 20:04.30 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: By default it will run in DirectX in Windows, but it's OpenGL on a Mac |
| 20:04.38 | k_ | mine does too i just get greedy with video settings |
| 20:04.47 | Hallucinosis | especially after that c2d patch |
| 20:05.06 | k_ | im just happy they added back in hardware audio, that was messing me up bigtime |
| 20:05.20 | Eternally777 | It doesn't cooperate with Vista and my X-Fi :-( |
| 20:05.21 | RaydenUni | well i'm on wndows |
| 20:05.33 | Hallucinosis | x-fi doesn't work well with Vista... period. |
| 20:05.34 | k_ | well your problem lies in the fact that your using vista |
| 20:05.34 | RaydenUni | 1gb of ram + vista + wow = slow :( |
| 20:05.35 | k_ | lol |
| 20:05.43 | k_ | vista is a p.o.s |
| 20:05.44 | Amadeo | Ouch, yeah |
| 20:05.48 | Hallucinosis | vista has no hardware acceleration for audio |
| 20:06.01 | Eternally777 | Yeah, it fails. |
| 20:06.03 | Hallucinosis | and Creative doesn't know how to write good drivers. |
| 20:06.18 | Amadeo | Doesn't really matter, WoW has no hardware acceleration for audio anymore :P |
| 20:06.44 | RaydenUni | creative sucks |
| 20:06.49 | Ozguli | ee, it does? |
| 20:06.52 | k_ | i just love how wow's voice chat locks your soundcard in 2channel mode |
| 20:06.56 | Hallucinosis | I run a C2D 6600, 4GB RAM, HW RAID10 (256mb cache), 8800 GTX on XP x64 =P |
| 20:06.56 | k_ | talk about crapola |
| 20:07.08 | RaydenUni | Hallucinosis i'll trade you |
| 20:07.18 | Hallucinosis | I don't use any HW sound though |
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| 20:07.29 | Hallucinosis | just the onboard |
| 20:07.34 | Hallucinosis | noty |
| 20:07.38 | Ozguli | 02(CPU202) Genuine Intel® CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz @ 798MHz (FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO Pro Edition V3505 mainboard) 02(RAM02) 512MB, 277.08MB free 02(HDDs02) 55.8GB, 18.6GB free |
| 20:07.38 | Ozguli | 02(VGA202) Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family (128MB) 02(OS02) Microsoft Windows XP Professional (SP2), 4d 4m 27s uptime, 1w 6d 21h 35m 2s uptime record |
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| 20:07.45 | Ozguli | WHEEEE |
| 20:07.49 | Hallucinosis | hehe |
| 20:07.53 | Hallucinosis | silly IRC mods |
| 20:07.56 | thul | and ofcourse, the weaponmaster in UC doesen't know shit |
| 20:07.58 | thul | ffs :-P |
| 20:08.01 | Amadeo | Ozguli: You must get like 4 fps |
| 20:08.02 | Ozguli | No Name Script... rather useful |
| 20:08.08 | Eternally777 | I've been waiting for Penryn before I upgrade. |
| 20:08.13 | Ozguli | Amadeo indeed, I do! At best times that is |
| 20:08.18 | Eternally777 | Now I'll probably end up waiting until after the holidays. |
| 20:08.23 | Arcaia | mainly the dual screen is amazing because I can watch movies - and grind wow at same time |
| 20:08.38 | Amadeo | My computer can't even do that at the same time |
| 20:08.42 | Amadeo | regardless of how many screens I have |
| 20:08.50 | k_ | realms are still down i take it? |
| 20:08.52 | Ktwo | with lowest setting wow does not run that bad on 945GM |
| 20:09.04 | Ozguli | nah actually my fps is between 20 and 25 usually, np in arena but BGs take it down to 10 or so |
| 20:09.12 | Amadeo | Ktwo: I'd guess maybe 10 fps max in outlands? :P |
| 20:09.14 | Ozguli | but, free laptop |
| 20:09.19 | Arcaia | I has a super computer! |
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| 20:09.28 | Ktwo | nope as he said like 25 |
| 20:09.33 | Ktwo | its enough for farming while at work |
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| 20:09.35 | Amadeo | In outlands? that would surprise me |
| 20:10.00 | Amadeo | 25 seems way high for integrated graphics |
| 20:10.05 | Amadeo | unless you're running like 640x480 |
| 20:10.18 | Ozguli | and btw I'm running 1280x800, lowest possible detail |
| 20:10.20 | Ktwo | not all integrated are the same and the 945GM is a "good" one |
| 20:10.29 | Ktwo | on S3 its not playable |
| 20:10.30 | Ozguli | oh not lowest, some fancy shining effects on |
| 20:10.42 | Arcaia | my fps is generally around 80fps in a crowded ironforge ;P |
| 20:10.54 | Ozguli | crowded ironforge? |
| 20:11.08 | RaydenUni | 5 man dungeons it's faster for me at least |
| 20:11.11 | Arcaia | 30-40 people outside the bank ;P |
| 20:11.12 | RaydenUni | although KZ still lags some |
| 20:11.12 | k_ | Ozguli: full screen glow? cause thats the biggest fps killer on lowend video cards |
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| 20:11.22 | RaydenUni | i've turned all my graphics settings down |
| 20:11.25 | Ozguli | k_ not that... |
| 20:11.32 | RaydenUni | the only thing left is my 1680x1050 :P but native resolution is so pretty |
| 20:11.32 | Ozguli | terrain highlights |
| 20:11.45 | Ozguli | I'd like to have a radeon card :\ |
| 20:11.52 | Ktwo | and the next thing is that on many laptops users tend to forget to disable cool&quite or speedstep |
| 20:11.53 | k_ | you should be slapped for saying that |
| 20:11.54 | Mudkips | full screen glow doesn't kill fps |
| 20:11.54 | RaydenUni | and 1240x525 would be weird |
| 20:12.01 | Ktwo | that might lower the performance too |
| 20:12.04 | Ozguli | maybe if mom would like to switch laptops |
| 20:12.07 | k_ | Mudkips: does if you have a shitty video card |
| 20:12.19 | k_ | lower than equivilent of a 7-series |
| 20:12.24 | k_ | fullscreen glow will kill your fps |
| 20:12.30 | Mudkips | I could say that about every bad vid card |
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| 20:12.46 | Mudkips | changing draw distance to high will kill your fps for sure |
| 20:12.56 | k_ | lol thats the easiest way to get good fps |
| 20:12.56 | Eternally777 | Server maintenance has been extended by one hour. |
| 20:12.59 | RaydenUni | lame |
| 20:13.00 | Mudkips | fullscreenglow is barely an fps killer |
| 20:13.03 | Eternally777 | Just a heads up. |
| 20:13.06 | kebinusan | of course |
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| 20:13.19 | k_ | Mudkips: on a 6600, and 6800 i have seen fullscreenglow be the difference in 10fps |
| 20:13.24 | kebinusan | hopefully its so they can remove all the teams that win traded their way tot he top of the ladders |
| 20:13.26 | k_ | when your 30-40fps max 10 is a big deal |
| 20:13.29 | Amadeo | full screen glow is just ugly |
| 20:13.47 | Ktwo | without it you dont get the drunk effects :D |
| 20:13.48 | Mudkips | I don't own those models so I wouldn't know |
| 20:13.49 | k_ | ya i dont even use it |
| 20:13.52 | Mudkips | but I know that doesn't apply to me |
| 20:13.59 | Eternally777 | I kind of like full screen glow in certain situations. |
| 20:14.06 | Mudkips | and I got a shitty vid card |
| 20:14.13 | Ozguli | hmm |
| 20:14.16 | Ozguli | thanks ofr info Ktwo |
| 20:14.34 | k_ | there are many factors involved in it mudkips, but it wasnt supported until PS2.0 |
| 20:14.34 | Amadeo | Eternally777: Depends on the area, if it's "bright" as it is, it looks horrible |
| 20:15.04 | Eternally777 | Yeah, BEM is a good example of a place that I like to have the glow disabled in. |
| 20:15.12 | Mudkips | ugh so true |
| 20:15.18 | Mudkips | that place is ugh |
| 20:15.36 | Mudkips | or FSG on the tunnel to coilfang? |
| 20:15.44 | Mudkips | yikes |
| 20:17.30 | vithos | heh, yeah. a while back i turned FSG back on for a short while... the tunnel to coilfang is where i realized my mistake |
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| 20:18.26 | vithos | i just wish i could turn off the terrain hilights without water surface becoming fully opaque |
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| 20:22.58 | Azure | baaah... i just hate the wow loot system.. |
| 20:23.06 | Ozguli | what's wrong with it? |
| 20:23.19 | Ktwo | ^^ should be like diablo2 thats a nice one :D |
| 20:23.20 | Ozguli | Have you seen the games where loot SCATTERS AROUND THE CORPSE? |
| 20:23.31 | Ozguli | And you have to click on every goddamn piece of loot to pick it up |
| 20:23.45 | Azure | i talk about the drop chances, not about the distribution |
| 20:24.03 | Ozguli | meh |
| 20:24.17 | Azure | second illidari council kill, second time with dual hunter/warrior/shaman legs... |
| 20:24.33 | Ozguli | oh I see |
| 20:24.40 | vithos | we got our first council kill last night :) |
| 20:25.07 | Arcaia | I don't raid anymore. |
| 20:25.07 | Azure | same with Azgalor.. warriors grab their T6 pvp-off-gear for minimum dkp and all mages have 0-1 T6 Pieces.. |
| 20:25.34 | Azure | and its the same with every single goddamn mob |
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| 20:26.15 | Ktwo | hehe same with heroic daily its black morass since 2 days that sucks |
| 20:26.16 | vithos | i agree, the randomness often does suck. |
| 20:26.31 | vithos | and just the probabilities, of the distrubution |
| 20:26.40 | NeoTron | Azure: which is why having split tier piece tokens is stupid |
| 20:26.41 | Hallucinosis | I don't raid anymore either |
| 20:26.45 | Hallucinosis | I'm so done with it |
| 20:26.47 | NeoTron | should just be A tier piece token |
| 20:26.50 | Arcaia | I just wish the stat/armor system was better in WoW more like d2 - loot is fine IMO - I'd just like to have my stats more powerful and more choosable. |
| 20:26.57 | Hallucinosis | my guild raided 36+ hours a week |
| 20:27.04 | vithos | maybe if they'd make some sort of special.. disenchant tokens? that could add up to be redeemed |
| 20:27.07 | Hallucinosis | they did well progression wise, but still |
| 20:27.08 | NeoTron | Ktwo: BM is like super easy. 3 badges +2 for quest in 30m ftw |
| 20:27.25 | Hallucinosis | (I transferred servers 2 months ago and am setting my focus to PvP now) |
| 20:27.31 | Azure | NeoTron: jep... just one token for all classes would be great |
| 20:28.24 | NeoTron | a lot better that class tokens |
| 20:29.29 | Ozguli | but what if the shaman token drops like, 3 times in a row |
| 20:29.43 | Ozguli | and there isn't one in the raid? |
| 20:30.44 | RaydenUni | what dungeons drop class tokens? |
| 20:30.49 | RaydenUni | i'm not familiar with this |
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| 20:31.06 | vithos | yay, realms back up |
| 20:31.11 | Ozguli | azeroth ones? |
| 20:31.27 | vithos | or.. at least they were listing in the realm list |
| 20:32.02 | vithos | nay, i'm logging in! :) |
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| 20:32.36 | kenlyric | I wonder if they will ever fix the inn in fairbreeze village. |
| 20:33.51 | Azure | Ozguli: we mean non-class based tokens.. just one T6 Token for all classes.. that would be the best solution for the sets |
| 20:34.14 | Azure | oh and i believe that there is no Raid without a Shaman in BT |
| 20:34.15 | Ozguli | Azure ooo. |
| 20:34.35 | Ozguli | meh, that was just an example... |
| 20:34.38 | RaydenUni | Azure one token for all classes makes sense, why would they do it otherwise? |
| 20:34.42 | Ozguli | but maybe you'll have all classes anyway |
| 20:35.06 | RaydenUni | so karazhan doesn't drop anything but caster armor |
| 20:35.16 | RaydenUni | which sucks because the mage and warlock and me have all the stuff we need pretty much |
| 20:35.19 | Azure | RaydenUni: don't know, but atm there are 3 different tokens for 3 classes each.. and it sucks |
| 20:35.28 | bigzero | would anyone know the function of "=r" in the following command (this is C btw) __asm __volatile("movl %%ebp,%0" : "=r" (ebp)) |
| 20:35.36 | Ozguli | fury warriors will have nothing |
| 20:35.48 | Ozguli | one plate drop from kara and that's it |
| 20:36.16 | RaydenUni | as a shadow priest the drops have been pretty sweet: ring, gloves, belt, neck |
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| 20:37.18 | Ktwo | eheh and dont forget the bracers of shadow wrath.. only problem is the low chance |
| 20:37.32 | RaydenUni | i got the pendant of rytssin |
| 20:37.32 | Codayus | Heh, we got bored last Sat, ran Kara with a group that mostly outgeared the instance. Drug along a rest shaman in all blues. |
| 20:37.36 | RaydenUni | or however you spell it |
| 20:37.53 | Codayus | In 3 hours downed everything but Maiden and Illhoof. The shaman got 8 drops. |
| 20:38.00 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 20:38.29 | RaydenUni | wowhead comes up with nothing for "bracers of shadow wrath" |
| 20:38.32 | Codayus | Although 2 of the drops were both +healing offhands (got the one of Moroes and Aran), so only 7 upgrades, really. |
| 20:38.55 | Codayus | RaydenUni: Wowhead doesn't search suffixes that way... |
| 20:38.57 | RaydenUni | doesn't maiden drop a healing totem? |
| 20:39.04 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. what shaman would use a non-shield oh anyway :P |
| 20:39.37 | Codayus | NightHawkTheSane: This one, since his shield was a crappy blue, and chess(?) didn't cough up an epic one. :-) |
| 20:39.45 | Ozguli | NightHawkTheSane enhancement one |
| 20:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Ozguli: okay, barring that. :P |
| 20:40.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: i still use crystal pulse shield, i'd rather have a shield oh, than better stats on something with no armor. |
| 20:40.15 | Codayus | Ah, Rokad the Ravager can drop... Ravager's Cuffs. |
| 20:40.26 | Codayus | And in the of Shaodw Wrath flavor, they have +58 shadow damage. |
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| 20:40.29 | Ktwo | yeah.. this one^ |
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| 20:40.31 | Codayus | Which is scary OP. |
| 20:40.45 | Ktwo | more than cuffs of devastation |
| 20:40.57 | thul | oooh, I got overpower :-D |
| 20:40.59 | thul | rogues, beware :-P |
| 20:41.00 | RaydenUni | there is some opera drop that's good for shadowpriests... |
| 20:41.03 | RaydenUni | pants i want to say |
| 20:41.06 | RaydenUni | fire something |
| 20:41.11 | Codayus | Trial-Fire |
| 20:41.12 | xyu | trialfire |
| 20:41.15 | thul | <- new warrior :-P |
| 20:41.16 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 20:41.21 | Ktwo | although, i think the missing stats will make them worse i think |
| 20:41.28 | RaydenUni | would it be worth replacing spellstrike with trial-fire if i have the spellstrike hat? |
| 20:41.38 | Codayus | *no* |
| 20:41.59 | Codayus | Trial-Fire and Spellstrike are ~equivalent. The Spellstrike bonus is a nice bonus. |
| 20:41.59 | RaydenUni | looking at the shadowpriest.com site they say the trial-fire is better than spellstrike |
| 20:42.03 | RaydenUni | but i'm wondering about the bonus |
| 20:42.16 | Ktwo | i like the solarian pants |
| 20:42.27 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 20:42.30 | Ktwo | last time a warlock got them -.- |
| 20:42.34 | RaydenUni | almost enough badges for the orb of soul eating |
| 20:42.36 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 20:42.53 | RaydenUni | need 7 more SL runs for exalted LC though |
| 20:43.10 | Codayus | Trial Fire is... 49 dmg + 27 from gems = 76. Spellstrike = 73, and some hit and crit. |
| 20:43.18 | RaydenUni | the pentium M sticker on my laptop finally fell off |
| 20:43.26 | RaydenUni | who cares about crit |
| 20:43.32 | Codayus | 3 dmg probably isn't worth losing 22 hit rating and 26 crit rating, but...arguable. |
| 20:44.00 | Codayus | RaydenUni: Are you a spriest? You care about crit. It only applies to MB and SW:D, so the benefit is limited but non-zero. |
| 20:44.00 | RaydenUni | true |
| 20:44.15 | RaydenUni | last time i ran KZ i rarely cast MB and SWD |
| 20:44.20 | RaydenUni | although that's cause i was threat caped |
| 20:44.30 | Codayus | You'll cast it more as gear improves, especially in 25 mans. |
| 20:44.35 | xyu | hit is more important imo |
| 20:44.42 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, the itemization cost of +crit is never worth it relative to +hit or +dmg |
| 20:44.45 | NightHawkTheSane | at least for spriests |
| 20:44.46 | Codayus | As your +dmg climbs above 1200, you start to have the mana for max DPS rotations. |
| 20:44.48 | Antiarc | Servers are coming up. |
| 20:45.20 | NightHawkTheSane | imo, it's not 3 damage vs 22 spellhit, it' |
| 20:45.29 | Codayus | NightHawkTheSane: True, but pointless. Itemization does not LET me choose to stack dmg over everything else. |
| 20:45.37 | NightHawkTheSane | it's the 30 sta and 32 int vs 22 spellhit |
| 20:45.43 | RaydenUni | so i was talking to my guild pally tank and asking about why i was out-threating him. he said he was avoidance specced and avoidance specced pallies do less threat. comments? |
| 20:46.05 | Gnarfoz | what did you expect? |
| 20:46.12 | Gnarfoz | that could stack both spell damage and avoidance? |
| 20:46.13 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:46.16 | Gnarfoz | +he |
| 20:46.20 | RaydenUni | i'm not familiar with paladin tanks |
| 20:46.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: well, true, but in the abstract, if you had the choice between a piece that gave +crit and +dmg, and were otherwise equal.. :P |
| 20:46.26 | Codayus | Spellstrike set bonus is worth ~14.7 +dmg |
| 20:46.26 | Ktwo | in ssc/tk using swd could end in suicide i think |
| 20:46.30 | Codayus | Based on simulation. |
| 20:46.32 | Ktwo | when it can crit with 4k |
| 20:46.38 | RaydenUni | but would it make sense than an unbuffed 780spell dmg spriest could out-threat a pally tank in KZ? |
| 20:46.41 | Codayus | NightHawkTheSane: Of course. And I'm never given that choice. :-( |
| 20:46.55 | Codayus | Well, hardly ever. |
| 20:47.05 | RaydenUni | +crit is like 1/20 of +dmg for spriest |
| 20:47.25 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on how the tank is geared, and whether your using VE or not. :P |
| 20:47.54 | RaydenUni | so i did like 120,000dmg on a boss, 4100 healing from VE |
| 20:48.05 | RaydenUni | considering healing is already 1/2, that's only 2000 worth of threat from VE |
| 20:48.09 | RaydenUni | seems inconsequential |
| 20:49.03 | Fisker- | whi Gnarfoz |
| 20:49.09 | Codayus | At 1100 dmg, when hit capped, adding 1 dmg, adds, oh, 0.5 dps, adding 1 crit adds 0.075 dps. (Based on simulation, and assuming max DPS rotations). Hardly 1/20th. |
| 20:49.44 | RaydenUni | closer to 1/10 |
| 20:50.39 | Azure | for mages its hit > haste > dmg > everything else.. crit kinda sucks.. in theory |
| 20:50.58 | RaydenUni | don't they get bonuses for critting? |
| 20:51.01 | RaydenUni | like paladins get mana back |
| 20:51.02 | Antiarc | Doesn't crit proc ignite and all that? |
| 20:51.47 | Codayus | For spriests, it's be hit until cap (but cap is *easy* to hit), dmg >>>>> haste > crit |
| 20:51.58 | Azure | 1/3 mana back for a crit and it procs ignite, yes.. but hit, haste and dmg are still way better |
| 20:53.17 | RaydenUni | my guildmates are always amazed that i don't want spirit or int |
| 20:53.28 | RaydenUni | just gotta keep telling them that dmg gives me mana |
| 20:53.40 | Codayus | Spriest scaling mechanics are kinda broken. |
| 20:53.44 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 20:54.00 | Codayus | Since we have *ONE* stat, that, when we stack it makes us do more dmg, makes all our spells cheaper, AND heals us. |
| 20:54.17 | RaydenUni | it's nice and simple |
| 20:54.30 | RaydenUni | mind flay is almost free for me |
| 20:54.38 | RaydenUni | how much +dmg to make mind flay free or return mana? |
| 20:55.56 | Codayus | A billion! Erm...Base cost 230. VT is 5%. So total MF damage would have to be 4600. Base damage is 528... |
| 20:56.04 | Ktwo | i must admit if i could change my sp to a warlock i would do that^^ |
| 20:56.18 | kebinusan | hm, anyone know the order for arena ranks? |
| 20:56.32 | kebinusan | vengeful gladiator, gladiator, something something |
| 20:57.26 | RaydenUni | Ktwo i wouldn't |
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| 20:57.38 | RaydenUni | i like being completely worthless against KZ trash and then out-dpsing everyone on bosses |
| 20:57.56 | Codayus | Let's see, total bonuses would be... CoE is 10%?, shadowform is 15%, uh...darkness is 10% |
| 20:58.04 | RaydenUni | although it's a zoo every time we start getting all the casters in my group |
| 20:58.11 | RaydenUni | i always end up with the warriors and the rogue |
| 20:58.15 | Codayus | Misery is 5%... |
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| 20:59.12 | Health | Improved MF costs 195 |
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| 20:59.38 | Codayus | It does? |
| 20:59.38 | Ktwo | y but while i have to chain chug mana pots a wl never goes oom :< (or it seems like that) |
| 21:00.02 | Codayus | Wowhead says 230 for rank 7... |
| 21:00.28 | Health | My UI says 195 ;p |
| 21:00.40 | Health | Focused Mind |
| 21:00.43 | Health | That talents |
| 21:00.46 | Codayus | Um...I can't think of a talent offhand that..OH duh. |
| 21:00.47 | Health | 15% less manacost |
| 21:00.56 | Codayus | I forgot it applied to MF. |
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| 21:01.14 | RaydenUni | i don't think i have enough points to get focused mind |
| 21:01.26 | Codayus | So 3900 damage across a MF to be free. |
| 21:01.38 | RaydenUni | oh wait |
| 21:01.43 | kenlyric | is there a way for grid to be smart enough to sort missing debuffs by my class? |
| 21:01.43 | RaydenUni | nm i was thinking of mental aility |
| 21:01.58 | RaydenUni | Codayus that's with VT? |
| 21:02.00 | RaydenUni | seems like a lot |
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| 21:02.11 | Varazir[NA] | EQcompare is it broken ? |
| 21:02.27 | RaydenUni | Varazir[NA] use Shift-hover, it's built in now |
| 21:02.39 | Codayus | VT is only 5%, right? 5% of 3900 is 195... |
| 21:02.46 | Codayus | I dunno, I just woke up. Sounds right? |
| 21:02.48 | RaydenUni | oh i guess |
| 21:03.06 | Varazir[NA] | RaydenUni so the addon I need to DL is Shift-hover ? |
| 21:03.11 | Codayus | Yay, my server is finally up. |
| 21:03.16 | RaydenUni | oh i know why it feels wrong. i'm getting mana back from VT and SWP while i'm casting MF |
| 21:03.23 | RaydenUni | Varazir[NA] no it's built into WoW |
| 21:03.30 | RaydenUni | hold down the shift key and then hover your mouse over the item |
| 21:03.36 | RaydenUni | it will compare the items |
| 21:03.37 | Varazir[NA] | ahh okay |
| 21:03.47 | Stanzilla | Varazir[NA]: use tekKompare |
| 21:04.27 | Varazir | ok |
| 21:06.18 | RaydenUni | tekkompare will do it without holding shift |
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| 21:06.56 | RaydenUni | pain suppression, is that an aggro dump? |
| 21:07.59 | Varazir | fubar is realy mongo |
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| 21:10.30 | Ozguli | RaydenUni pain suppression is like shield wall I think |
| 21:10.37 | Ozguli | and normal priest bubble, doesn't do much anything |
| 21:10.46 | RaydenUni | it says reduces aggro by 5% |
| 21:10.55 | RaydenUni | there are so many disc talents that i want for shadow priest |
| 21:11.02 | Ozguli | oh |
| 21:11.19 | Ozguli | 41/0/41 build? |
| 21:11.25 | RaydenUni | but too far to get into it |
| 21:11.35 | RaydenUni | the thing is most of the talents are worthless |
| 21:11.37 | RaydenUni | but a few are nice |
| 21:12.01 | RaydenUni | i'd trade the talent that gives a lower chance to be critically hit |
| 21:12.47 | RaydenUni | well |
| 21:12.47 | RaydenUni | cya |
| 21:13.05 | Ktwo | stack resilence^^ |
| 21:13.21 | thul | is charge, rend, heroic strike, heroic strike, next a good cycle for warrior grinding? |
| 21:13.36 | Ozguli | diss heroic strike |
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| 21:13.39 | Ozguli | and rend |
| 21:13.53 | Azure | Codayus: is 2.3.2 already up in the US? |
| 21:14.20 | Ozguli | charge and auto attack is fine, maybe slam if you're in hurry |
| 21:15.41 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: at your level, there's really no way to screw it up, just use your rage. :P |
| 21:16.06 | dylanm | Release your raaage |
| 21:16.15 | dylanm | Rend isn't worth it though imo |
| 21:16.25 | Ozguli | never |
| 21:16.29 | dylanm | Unless it's something you're afraid will vanish... |
| 21:16.30 | Codayus | Azure: No, just S3. |
| 21:16.34 | Ozguli | that one sucks, except if you're killing a boss |
| 21:16.36 | thul | NightHawkTheSane: ok : |
| 21:16.36 | thul | :-P |
| 21:16.53 | Azure | Codayus: oh.. pvp crap.. *sigh* |
| 21:17.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Azure: i know, wtb 2.3.2 >< |
| 21:17.58 | Ozguli | NightHawkTheSane yeah sure, more mage buffs |
| 21:18.04 | Ozguli | as if they needed it |
| 21:18.09 | thul | dylanm: ok. |
| 21:18.13 | Ozguli | or hunters, agony. |
| 21:18.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i was thinking of the shammy buffs. >.> |
| 21:18.17 | thul | I'll just do charge + heroic strike then :-P |
| 21:18.33 | Codayus | Pft, doesn't do anything for spriests. |
| 21:18.40 | Codayus | :( |
| 21:18.41 | Chompers | thul: for gods sake dont use rend |
| 21:18.43 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: yeah, untill you hit 40 and pick up either ms or bloodthirst, there's not much else to use your rage on. |
| 21:18.43 | Chompers | gah |
| 21:18.46 | Ozguli | the new two-button class that has IWIN button as well |
| 21:19.00 | Varazir | anyone having the same problem when you zone or just reload the UI every fubar plugin jumps around ? |
| 21:19.02 | thul | well, I'm just used to always using garrote :-P |
| 21:19.05 | thul | garrote + rupture ftw :-D |
| 21:19.09 | thul | but ok, I'll stay out of it :-D |
| 21:19.12 | Ozguli | eeee? |
| 21:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | except the difference is, garrote doesn't suck |
| 21:19.16 | Ozguli | thul what? |
| 21:19.23 | thul | what what? |
| 21:19.29 | Ozguli | garrote, when grinding? |
| 21:19.46 | Ozguli | I'd rather take the combo points from kidney shot |
| 21:20.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Ozguli: eh? |
| 21:20.05 | thul | you think about rupture i guess |
| 21:20.15 | Ozguli | cheap shot* |
| 21:20.17 | thul | but i always open with garrote, snd, hemo, hemo, hemo |
| 21:20.20 | thul | that is faster |
| 21:20.25 | Ozguli | and rupture has much less dmg than eviscerate |
| 21:20.28 | thul | but each to his own :-P |
| 21:20.30 | thul | Ozguli: ...?! |
| 21:20.52 | thul | are you insane? :-P |
| 21:20.52 | Ozguli | no... |
| 21:20.52 | thul | no, rupture does NOT have much less damage then eviscerate |
| 21:20.52 | thul | read up on your theory craft young padawan :-P |
| 21:20.56 | Ozguli | pff |
| 21:21.05 | Ozguli | might ignore armor but whatever |
| 21:21.09 | thul | the only reason not to use rupture while grinding is that mobs die long before it is over :-) |
| 21:21.12 | thul | it is not "but whatever" |
| 21:21.19 | Ozguli | I want the target to take dmg when I want to, not much later |
| 21:21.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Ozguli: before yo have CS, garrotte's the only real opener for non-daggers |
| 21:21.48 | Ozguli | applies to all pvp as well, except against other rogues because they vanish |
| 21:22.05 | Ozguli | hmh. then be a dagger rogue before having CS? |
| 21:22.12 | Ozguli | anyway I'm off now --> |
| 21:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ew? who wants to level as daggers? P |
| 21:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 21:22.41 | thul | Conclusion: |
| 21:22.41 | thul | Rupture is better than eviscerate in almost all situations, but it is possible to create situations where it would be better damage per energy to use eviscerate. |
| 21:22.44 | thul | If you have Combo points, and the mob will survive the duration of a rupture, use a rupture. If you have a mangle debuff, or serrated blades, or both, there is no question. Rupture. Always. Only eviscerate if you can't re-rupture because there is already one on it. |
| 21:22.52 | thul | todays lection :-P |
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| 21:23.16 | User627 | http://www.myspace.com/cosmouseandsammy |
| 21:23.37 | dylanm | NightHawkTheSane: That's what I'm doing atm :p |
| 21:23.50 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: i could never do that. :P |
| 21:24.00 | dylanm | It kinda sucks cos you have to find the two or three daggers per bracket that are any good at all |
| 21:24.09 | dylanm | Without them you're just horrible |
| 21:25.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i just hate having my primary attack require positioning, when soloing that's a pain |
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| 21:25.54 | dylanm | And yet... I dunno. I like having everything available. And I feel so much more rogue-like. |
| 21:28.09 | kaiden | can someone explain this: http://ss.ohnoes.cc/WTF_01.jpg |
| 21:28.30 | NightHawkTheSane | It's a glitch in the matrix, neo. |
| 21:28.52 | dylanm | Whoa awesome |
| 21:28.53 | kaiden | lol exactly as i thought |
| 21:28.58 | kaiden | you should see the other shots i've taken of it |
| 21:29.01 | dylanm | Where do I get that is it ace |
| 21:29.02 | kaiden | it's glitching bad |
| 21:29.17 | kaiden | ie, everything has turned into the data in the file rather than an image |
| 21:29.25 | kaiden | so it's like the renderer isn't compiling it.. just showing the data |
| 21:29.31 | kaiden | loot sparklies look hilarious |
| 21:29.43 | NightHawkTheSane | that's crazy |
| 21:30.20 | kaiden | http://ss.ohnoes.cc/WTF_02.jpg |
| 21:30.24 | kaiden | http://ss.ohnoes.cc/WTF_03.jpg |
| 21:31.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, something's seriously borked with either your graphics card or the rendering engine |
| 21:31.31 | kaiden | brand new graphics card :) had it a month or so and haven't had problems yet |
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| 21:31.38 | kaiden | and i'm not having any issues in any other game |
| 21:31.42 | kaiden | just very weird |
| 21:32.27 | jenjen | This is a complete nub question I know... but how do you download an add-on once you find one that you like? |
| 21:32.32 | jenjen | take for instance: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BunchOfBars |
| 21:32.41 | jenjen | where is the link to download that add-on? |
| 21:32.42 | kaiden | files.wowace.com |
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| 21:32.59 | jenjen | oh :) |
| 21:33.00 | jenjen | Thank you! |
| 21:33.46 | jenjen | how exactly do you find that out w/o someone telling you? Is it documented somewhere that I have over looked? |
| 21:34.36 | Aeyan | Well, most people use the WAU to download them |
| 21:34.53 | Aeyan | But if you hang around long enough, you just learn that's where they come from =P |
| 21:35.05 | jenjen | hehe ;) |
| 21:35.10 | jenjen | what exactly is WAU? |
| 21:35.11 | NightHawkTheSane | there probably ought to be a link to files.wowace.com from somewhere. >.> |
| 21:35.42 | Aeyan | ~wau |
| 21:35.42 | purl | wau is probably WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 21:35.58 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r56142 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: update deDE |
| 21:36.00 | jenjen | Awesome! |
| 21:36.04 | jenjen | Thanks a lot guys. |
| 21:36.09 | Aeyan | No problem |
| 21:41.18 | Xyphor | kaiden: I love those images :p |
| 21:44.01 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. if i have a frame 'f', and do f:SetMovable(false), and the frame that f is anchored to moves, will f move with it? |
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| 21:46.46 | RaydenUni | up yet? |
| 21:51.48 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 21:53.40 | Pkekyo| | US patched yet? |
| 21:56.15 | vithos | yessir |
| 21:56.39 | Pkekyo| | lucky sods...gots to wait for another 16 hours or so >.< |
| 21:57.02 | Antiarc | I finally replaced my friggin' T4 chestpiece |
| 21:57.24 | Pkekyo| | I never even got 'my friggin' t4 chestpiece' |
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| 21:58.22 | RaydenUni | i think my chest piece is already better than t4 |
| 21:59.17 | Chompers | what you get Antiarc? |
| 21:59.28 | Antiarc | S3 chest |
| 21:59.29 | Ktwo | i dont know a replacement for frozen sw as sp before bt :< |
| 21:59.34 | Chompers | nice |
| 21:59.36 | RaydenUni | yeah Ktwo |
| 21:59.45 | Antiarc | Gemmed with 2x 4hit/4agi + 1x8hit makes for a very nice PVE chestpiece |
| 21:59.47 | Chompers | huge queue on t6 chest i bet |
| 21:59.49 | RaydenUni | most of my stuff i can't replace until BT or MH |
| 21:59.56 | Antiarc | We don't have Illidan down yet |
| 22:00.02 | Chompers | oh |
| 22:00.05 | RaydenUni | which means i won't be upgrading it :) |
| 22:00.07 | Chompers | assumed you did :P |
| 22:00.09 | Ktwo | the next thing im looking for is the zul aman ring |
| 22:00.12 | Ktwo | thats a nice one |
| 22:00.21 | RaydenUni | link? |
| 22:00.21 | Antiarc | There's a potential upgrade from Supremus or Archimonde, but when I get one of those I can just regem my S3 chest for PVP |
| 22:00.26 | RaydenUni | i have the HH ring and the Moroes ring |
| 22:00.33 | RaydenUni | mostly i need trinkets |
| 22:00.35 | Chompers | and its easier to get s3 now |
| 22:00.42 | Ktwo | signet of ancient magics |
| 22:00.42 | Chompers | rather than wait for a possible drop |
| 22:00.45 | RaydenUni | i know the one badge trinket, but i'm not sure about the other |
| 22:00.49 | RaydenUni | i guess the heroic SP one |
| 22:01.07 | RaydenUni | does it strike anyone else as odd that the pvp reward weapons are better than any PVE drops for pve? |
| 22:01.19 | RaydenUni | at least for spriest |
| 22:01.50 | Ktwo | think the best pve combo is icon+darkmoon crusade still, (ofc guldan might be better but almost impossible to get) |
| 22:01.51 | vithos | i'm not surprised to hear it |
| 22:02.44 | Chompers | going for leo in 10 minutes |
| 22:02.51 | Chompers | gogo tsunami trinket |
| 22:03.02 | Ktwo | hm.. well if you include the bt trash mace in your list pvp wont be that better |
| 22:10.53 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNXElmEUIJo o_O 721 bpm |
| 22:15.46 | Health | So season 3 started US now? |
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| 22:16.41 | deadlock | Bongos Titan bartender3, which is better? |
| 22:17.02 | Ktwo | bt3 if you ask in this channel :D |
| 22:17.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ... well, for one thing, Titan is an info-bar style mod, bongos and bt3 are action bars. |
| 22:17.19 | NightHawkTheSane | it's like apples and machine guns. |
| 22:17.36 | deadlock | i thought titan had a actionbar, oh titan is more like fubar? |
| 22:17.42 | NightHawkTheSane | That said, bongos and bt3 are fairly comparable, and it ultimately comes down to personal opinion. |
| 22:18.02 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, titan is like fubar. Which is really ironic to say, because titan pre-dates fubar. |
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| 22:18.56 | deadlock | Are there any other actionbars, i like bart3 but it hasnt been updated in awhile, anyone still use it for newest patch? |
| 22:19.43 | NightHawkTheSane | The main ones I'm aware of are bongos, bt3, trinity, and flexbar2 |
| 22:19.57 | Chompers | wasn't bt3 updated today? |
| 22:20.01 | NightHawkTheSane | I know many people here are using bt3, so I suspect it's still working |
| 22:20.03 | Ktwo | wau says last changed 1 day for bt3 |
| 22:20.06 | Chompers | or at least in the past fewdays |
| 22:20.31 | Ktwo | much more updated than bongos i think |
| 22:20.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, first.. that may be library updates, not actual mod updates |
| 22:20.58 | deadlock | hmm on curse bar3 hasnt been updated in 5 months |
| 22:21.16 | NightHawkTheSane | second, don't judge a mod based on how often it's updated. If something's not broken, there's no point in making updates to it. |
| 22:21.18 | deadlock | I like bar3, I was just open to other suggestions on what people liked. |
| 22:21.34 | sag_ich_nicht | You are now breathing manually. |
| 22:22.13 | deadlock | sag_ich_nicht: huh? |
| 22:23.01 | deadlock | I also cant use WAU im on linux. |
| 22:24.19 | Aens|Superiority | deadlock: you should use wuu. wow ui updater. works on *nix |
| 22:24.26 | Aens|Superiority | wuu.vagabonds.info |
| 22:24.35 | Aens|Superiority | better than wau anyways imo. |
| 22:25.22 | deadlock | ok. ill have to take a look |
| 22:25.46 | deadlock | i havent even decided what i wanted in my UI yet, Ill probaly stick ith bar3, i just wish it had the dif layout designs like the arcs and stuff |
| 22:30.59 | deadlock | now im torn between trin+bar3. Thank! LoL |
| 22:32.33 | deadlock | trin is still beta i guess ill stick with bar3 |
| 22:35.35 | Ktwo | anyone knows a good grinding spot for 54-58? (rogue) |
| 22:36.18 | Xinhuan | 2 hours since server came up |
| 22:36.23 | Xinhuan | i've made 1527g |
| 22:36.33 | Health | Xinhuan: Are the season3 vendors tehre? |
| 22:36.37 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 22:36.40 | Health | nice |
| 22:37.01 | Aens|Superiority | whats the mod that does !gem for JCs but for enchanters? |
| 22:37.11 | Ktwo | lot of work to do for the area52 bruisers i presume :) |
| 22:37.19 | Mudkips | craftlist2, Aens|Superiority ? |
| 22:37.36 | Xinhuan | !enchant |
| 22:37.39 | Xinhuan | CraftList2 |
| 22:37.42 | Xinhuan | does all professions |
| 22:37.42 | Mudkips | I'm still having my weird crafting bug when I press create all and t only makes one |
| 22:37.52 | Mudkips | is it just me? |
| 22:37.58 | Xinhuan | just you |
| 22:38.01 | Xinhuan | you have a conflicting addon |
| 22:38.04 | Mudkips | I don't get it :( |
| 22:38.10 | Mudkips | I'm not getting any error messages |
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| 22:42.25 | Osstia | You making gold just enchanting? |
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| 22:43.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Ktwo: silithus, winterspring, epl |
| 22:43.48 | Osstia | Ktwo you may wanna try the lumber camp in WPL, or maybe the lake in Winterspring |
| 22:43.55 | Osstia | decent drops, and cloth mobs |
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| 22:44.16 | Ktwo | k thx ill try that |
| 22:44.40 | Ktwo | well drops arent important , only killing speed cant wait for going outland |
| 22:45.44 | Osstia | depeneding on how high lvl you can kill, you might even try the twilight camps in silithus. Clothies as well. |
| 22:47.24 | Ktwo | yup k i hope they dont "run away in fear" :) |
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| 22:47.45 | Osstia | ummm, crippling poison? |
| 22:47.47 | NightHawkTheSane | that's what crippling poison's for |
| 22:48.05 | Ktwo | but then i lose dps |
| 22:48.51 | NightHawkTheSane | you'll lose more on the corpse run if a runner pulls half the camp and you die |
| 22:49.25 | Mudkips | logiclol |
| 22:49.29 | Ktwo | yup true :) thats why i first going to try winterspring like you said |
| 22:49.52 | Ktwo | should be undead as i remember? |
| 22:49.58 | Osstia | yes |
| 22:50.01 | Ktwo | kk |
| 22:50.02 | NightHawkTheSane | but, still, the spider/scorpion/snake mobs in silithus are good to grind, there's a handful of quests for them |
| 22:50.29 | Ktwo | i just did the quests there.. aww. i hate their 40sec dots |
| 22:50.30 | Mudkips | gah @_@ I want to play super mash bros 64 again |
| 22:50.30 | Osstia | they aren't too bad. I just get so tired of that stupid knockdown those snakes do |
| 22:50.39 | Mudkips | smash* |
| 22:50.43 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, thats the worst part. |
| 22:52.02 | Osstia | Are there any folks here that do work coding addons? |
| 22:52.29 | Osstia | I'm looking to write a fairly simple addon, and am wonderinf if the ace framework is the best place to start |
| 22:52.37 | JoshBorke | Osstia: i code addons |
| 22:52.46 | JoshBorke | i've written all my mods without frameworks |
| 22:52.57 | Osstia | I want to be able to track a specific item when i farm |
| 22:53.09 | Osstia | like [Ichor of Undeath] |
| 22:53.17 | Osstia | I want to be able to see on my screen how many I have |
| 22:53.25 | Osstia | similar to the built in quest tracker |
| 22:53.29 | Kemayo_ | Trivial. |
| 22:53.30 | Mudkips | or you can open your bag |
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| 22:53.49 | JoshBorke | Osstia: i do that in loottracker |
| 22:53.58 | Osstia | I know I can. but I am interested in working with addons, and I have always thought that coding something useful to myself is a great way to learn |
| 22:54.10 | JoshBorke | Osstia: steal code from loottracker imo |
| 22:54.19 | Kemayo_ | Osstia: You wouldn't particularly need a framework for that. |
| 22:54.23 | Osstia | Thanks for the tip JoshBorke |
| 22:55.02 | Kemayo_ | Osstia: You'd be interested in the GetItemCount function, which tells you how many of an item you have in your bags. |
| 22:55.04 | Osstia | Like I said, its more for imformation than anything. Most of my background is shell scripting and perl, but I would love to be able to work with some of these addons |
| 22:55.49 | Osstia | Thanks for the info. very helpful |
| 22:55.50 | NightHawkTheSane | if you can handle reasonably complex perl scripts, lua isn't terribly difficult. :) |
| 22:56.05 | Osstia | thats what i was thinking |
| 22:58.05 | Kemayo_ | Osstia: That addon, if done in a minimally configurable way, would be very easy to write. |
| 22:58.55 | Kemayo_ | Where you'd run in to potential benefits from frameworks is in the creation of config options and the storage thereof. |
| 22:59.58 | Osstia | okay |
| 23:00.04 | Osstia | that makes sense |
| 23:00.10 | Osstia | and I may step intto that as I learn |
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| 23:00.51 | thul | all this code talk makes me miss my old unix days :-P |
| 23:00.56 | Osstia | haha |
| 23:01.18 | Osstia | I miss when i got to play with it more. Now its all work, no fun |
| 23:01.32 | Osstia | and the time i spent dinking with *nix is now filled with wow! |
| 23:01.41 | Osstia | damn you blizzard! damn you all to hell! |
| 23:02.04 | Mudkips | coders getting dreamy |
| 23:02.10 | Kemayo_ | Here's an example of a really, really minimal addon that creates a frame and updates it: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LodWhat/core.lua |
| 23:02.11 | Mudkips | that makes me wet all over |
| 23:03.26 | thul | I'm glad I'm out of *nix :-P |
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| 23:03.49 | thul | hmm, I'm liking the s3 head for rogues btw. |
| 23:05.14 | Osstia | Kemayo_ thanks, thats rather helpful |
| 23:06.13 | Chompers | the inner demons on leo, a warlock is having problems |
| 23:06.24 | Chompers | what can he use/do to kill his demon |
| 23:06.29 | Ktwo | lol fear |
| 23:06.46 | Cryect | Use fire more |
| 23:06.51 | Osstia | fear, dot, fear, dot lol |
| 23:07.01 | Cryect | really though.. uh what? |
| 23:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, a dps class having trouble doing dps? wtf? |
| 23:07.19 | Cryect | If a warlock is having problems killing their demon they are seriously undergeared or don't know what they are doing |
| 23:07.27 | Codayus | That's just...weird. |
| 23:07.39 | Ktwo | even as 0/0/0 wl |
| 23:07.47 | Chompers | nearly every time he gets a demon he dies |
| 23:07.59 | Cryect | He dies? do people not heal him? |
| 23:08.01 | Ktwo | maybe he does not think about they are fearable |
| 23:08.10 | Cryect | well even if he doesn't fear them |
| 23:08.13 | Cryect | he shouldn't die |
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| 23:08.57 | Chompers | i say die |
| 23:09.03 | Chompers | i mean he gets mind controlled |
| 23:09.05 | smoke_ | is there an ace addon that is similiar to gogomount? |
| 23:09.08 | Chompers | so i kill him |
| 23:09.13 | Cryect | Heh k |
| 23:09.21 | JoshBorke | Chompers: gj =) |
| 23:09.22 | Cryect | then he needs to be better geared or learn how to play a warlock |
| 23:09.50 | JoshBorke | Cryect: would impervious have members who can craft belt of blasting? |
| 23:09.58 | JoshBorke | obviously yes, but would they have the nether vortexesi mean |
| 23:09.59 | Cryect | uh there should be somebody with it |
| 23:10.03 | Cryect | oh |
| 23:10.06 | Cryect | Uh ask Jhasa |
| 23:10.11 | Cryect | he might have them |
| 23:10.14 | Cryect | prolly not though |
| 23:10.25 | Cryect | since I don't think they do SSC or TK like ever anymore |
| 23:10.32 | JoshBorke | do you know what a good price for them would be? |
| 23:10.38 | Cryect | heh no idea |
| 23:10.45 | JoshBorke | useless to me! |
| 23:10.47 | Cryect | I just remember we sold them for insane amounts etc :-p |
| 23:11.13 | Cryect | Heh the patterns from BT with the hearts we sold for like 1.5kg |
| 23:11.37 | JoshBorke | i'm too poor for that |
| 23:11.48 | Osstia | do you guys still raid? |
| 23:12.08 | JoshBorke | cryect wouldn't know |
| 23:12.11 | JoshBorke | he quit =P |
| 23:12.12 | Cryect | They still raid just BT & Hyjal, I don't (I quit after Illidan) |
| 23:12.24 | JoshBorke | hey, can i have your account? ^_^ |
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| 23:12.28 | Cryect | No :-p |
| 23:12.28 | Osstia | ahhh, I quit raiding when we started BT |
| 23:12.34 | Osstia | so I am a scrub now |
| 23:12.40 | Osstia | but its still fun to play |
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| 23:12.49 | thul | I just want the warglaives :-( |
| 23:12.49 | Osstia | I just don't live in a raid anymore |
| 23:12.59 | Osstia | i have dreams about that |
| 23:13.24 | Osstia | my main is a priest though, i just dink around with my rogue. PvP and ffarming and what not |
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| 23:17.46 | Arrowmaster | JoshBorke: server transfer to my server, i have 2 extra nethers in my bags right now |
| 23:19.06 | smoke_ | hey guys, im using parrot, and when it scrolls the combat status i get this small lag spike |
| 23:19.07 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad huklos us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 23:19.19 | smoke_ | anyone know why im getting this lag? |
| 23:19.26 | Mudkips | cos you touch yourself at night |
| 23:19.40 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Huklos vs Shaytan! Two 70 rogues square off!; Shaytan wins by 114 TBRs! |
| 23:19.58 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad osstia us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 23:20.15 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Osstia vs Shaytan! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 39/22/0 vs 17/44/0; Shaytan wins by 1261 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
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| 23:20.35 | xyu | where does it say one's personal rating? |
| 23:20.58 | xyu | For arena purposes |
| 23:20.58 | Atriace | Anyone know how texture scale is figured in WoW? I seem to remember an article somewhere stating everything matched a 1024x768 grid, yet I can't find it. Help? |
| 23:21.15 | CIA-41 | 03pettigrow * r56143 10BigWigs_MC/ (10 files): BigWigs_MC: frFR Update |
| 23:21.39 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad cribb us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 23:22.05 | ThraeBot | Osstia: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 23:22.42 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad orrion us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 23:22.43 | ThraeBot | Osstia: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 23:24.04 | xyu | wow |
| 23:24.10 | xyu | i wish there was a slash command for talking to vendors |
| 23:24.19 | xyu | there are so many people in area 52 that i can't click |
| 23:24.56 | Osstia | hahah |
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| 23:25.06 | Osstia | I ran into that in the Hall in Org |
| 23:25.24 | Osstia | you mgiht be able to SHIFT+v and find his nameplate |
| 23:25.37 | NivFreak | xyu: go to tanaris |
| 23:25.45 | Mudkips | I got owned at ZA last night |
| 23:25.52 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 23:26.02 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: how about you transfer to mine? ^_^ |
| 23:26.05 | Mudkips | trying to turn in my quest outside and this slutty nightelf got in my way and I meleed it |
| 23:26.28 | Arrowmaster | sorry i only transfer to servers with locked aq gates |
| 23:26.30 | NivFreak | once nice thing about plate |
| 23:26.33 | Mudkips | *thwack* and I get insta-netted and gangbanged by 6 guards |
| 23:26.33 | NivFreak | I can run away from the guards |
| 23:26.36 | NivFreak | and they can't kill me |
| 23:26.50 | Osstia | haha |
| 23:26.57 | Mudkips | I was power shifting away from the guards |
| 23:27.03 | Osstia | Why Arrowmaster? |
| 23:27.04 | Mudkips | okay? im a druid.. shifting breaks nets |
| 23:27.10 | NivFreak | I just turn and run |
| 23:27.13 | NivFreak | and get away |
| 23:27.15 | xyu | i prefer servers that are overcrowded |
| 23:27.15 | Mudkips | and they were pretty muchs spamming it on me |
| 23:27.24 | Arrowmaster | Osstia: for the mount ofcourse |
| 23:27.27 | xyu | ones you can't even get quests done |
| 23:27.27 | Mudkips | 6 guards... you can't get away with 6 of em spamming nets on you |
| 23:27.32 | NivFreak | you can |
| 23:27.38 | NivFreak | they have gaps |
| 23:27.41 | NivFreak | just keep running |
| 23:27.42 | thul | just pop sprint |
| 23:27.43 | thul | :-P |
| 23:28.04 | NivFreak | I like servers that are full, but not so much that they have login queues |
| 23:28.20 | Mudkips | and as a plate warrior that's hard to believe |
| 23:28.26 | Mudkips | warrs can't even break roots |
| 23:28.50 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad cribb us kel'thuzad shaytan |
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| 23:29.51 | ThraeBot | Osstia: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
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| 23:32.44 | aestil | !c us darkspear baosroth |
| 23:33.09 | ThraeBot | aestil: Baosroth, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (15/0/46). 10411 HP; 8895 Mana; 148 mana regen; 49 mp5; 117 spell crit; 67 spell hit; 749 +spell dmg; 859 +heal; 134 frost dmg (883); 134 shadow dmg (883); 80 fire dmg (829); 6.18% dodge; 348 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1030 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hkmwk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cud4j ][ Updated: Tue Nov 27 14:40:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:34.20 | NivFreak | the armory is being raped currently |
| 23:34.46 | NivFreak | !vs us frostwolf zarty us frostwolf karmy |
| 23:35.46 | ThraeBot | NivFreak: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 23:36.07 | Mudkips | how rude |
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| 23:37.04 | NivFreak | !vs us frostwolf zarty us frostwolf karmy |
| 23:37.04 | ThraeBot | NivFreak: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 23:37.09 | NivFreak | darn |
| 23:37.15 | Osstia | why do i keep reading your name as mukdips and thinking mad fuk dps |
| 23:37.21 | Osstia | its messing with my brain |
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| 23:43.08 | CIA-41 | 03dfscott * r56144 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (10 files): |
| 23:43.08 | CIA-41 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 23:43.08 | CIA-41 | - Added Act 22 - Terokkar Forest (level 67) |
| 23:43.08 | CIA-41 | - Misc guide changes/corrections |
| 23:43.08 | CIA-41 | - Misc reformatting for better pagination |
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| 23:43.53 | Osstia | pagination huh |
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| 23:50.32 | CIA-41 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r731 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - More ally plaguelands |
| 23:54.23 | Osstia | wow |
| 23:54.27 | Osstia | don't i feel stupid |
| 23:54.51 | Osstia | I farmed honor on my scrub rogue for the Arena 1 maces. Jump in a BG to see who I can punch in the face with them |
| 23:55.00 | Osstia | **WHIFF** mace skill == 0 |
| 23:55.13 | Kuja^ | lol :D |
| 23:55.16 | Ellipsis | fail :P |
| 23:55.28 | kergoth | hahah |
| 23:55.34 | thul | hmm, you are on us servers? :-P |
| 23:55.36 | thul | since you already got it? |
| 23:55.37 | thul | or? |
| 23:55.48 | Osstia | yes |
| 23:55.51 | thul | :-( |
| 23:55.53 | thul | i waaant |
| 23:56.03 | Osstia | I am on kel'thuzad |
| 23:56.11 | thul | im on eu_en |
| 23:56.21 | Osstia | I'm sorry |
| 23:56.25 | thul | :-P |
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