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| 00:11.00 | thul | hmm, why are s2 maces "better" for hemo (higher top end) than s2 swords when s1 are the same? |
| 00:11.12 | thul | i can get fists, since they don't have expertice stuff, but.. maces? |
| 00:11.13 | thul | :-( |
| 00:11.20 | thul | well, ntietime. |
| 00:13.47 | Keias | Thul, thats for PVP only |
| 00:13.59 | Keias | Because you get Mace Spec stuns too if you're 0/31/30 |
| 00:14.52 | RaydenUni | anyone have all their season 3 stuff yet? :P |
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| 00:16.42 | Keias | No, because I was too lazy to cap out points |
| 00:16.53 | Keias | Plus I need to build my rating up to 1850 to spend the points I have already :P |
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| 00:17.15 | KarlThePagan | arena points cap at 5k and it takes somewhere over 8k to just get your 5pc |
| 00:17.33 | KarlThePagan | i wonder if anyone was able to purchase their shoulders yet |
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| 00:30.27 | xerawx_ | so i have a macro that /casts Inner Focus, then a /castsequence based on which modifier is used.. but the #showtooltip at the start always makes the macro show the IF icon.. is there some way to make it show the icon for whichevever castsequence modifier is used? |
| 00:30.51 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | #showtooltip Arcane Blast |
| 00:30.56 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | or whatever spell, just list it |
| 00:31.30 | xerawx_ | but there are 3 castsequences.. I don't want it to always show Prayer of Healing, say |
| 00:31.41 | xerawx_ | if i have the shift key down i want it to show Greater Heal |
| 00:31.48 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | dont think you can do it then |
| 00:31.48 | Gnarfoz | remove the line, then |
| 00:31.58 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | remove the line and it will show by context |
| 00:32.21 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | wait, yu have a /cast and a /castsequence in the same macro? |
| 00:32.36 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | you can only show the /cast or the /castsequence, not both |
| 00:33.01 | xerawx_ | yeah, that's just how it is I guess |
| 00:34.03 | Atriace | Can integers be decimals? |
| 00:34.08 | Atriace | <-- not a CS major. |
| 00:34.25 | kenlyric_ | Atriace: no |
| 00:34.31 | kenlyric_ | int = whole. |
| 00:34.32 | Atriace | So it's always a whole |
| 00:34.35 | Atriace | Alright |
| 00:34.39 | kenlyric_ | float = decimal |
| 00:34.39 | xerawx_ | well.. in this case I can really only show the /cast because inner focus has to be at the start of the macro otherwise it defeats the purpose |
| 00:34.45 | kenlyric_ | (plus many variations) |
| 00:36.17 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | yup |
| 00:37.24 | KarlThePagan | so... I think I'm going to try to resurrect Grouper |
| 00:37.32 | KarlThePagan | maybe I won't flake out again |
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| 00:57.38 | deadlock | Is there a guide to skinning the wow UI anywhere? |
| 00:57.49 | deadlock | all i can find when i try and search is leatherworking guides >.< |
| 00:57.55 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 00:58.01 | Wobwork | I was about to suggest a skinning knife =) |
| 00:58.12 | deadlock | Wobwork: LoL. |
| 00:58.43 | Poul|Raider | http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8687/zatimedeventff1.png nice bears! |
| 00:59.31 | deadlock | cool |
| 01:00.00 | deadlock | does skinner allow you to use custom textures |
| 01:00.00 | MrUseful | Arena Points updated. You are eligible for points if: Team fought min. 10 matches and you participated in 30% of the matches. |
| 01:06.27 | deadlock | Hmm Skinner can probaly do it, but were there any guides... |
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| 01:07.18 | deadlock | ah found it |
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| 01:08.15 | CIA-41 | 03haloed * r56145 10dgks_female/ (18 files): |
| 01:08.15 | CIA-41 | dgks_female: 20300.0.01 |
| 01:08.15 | CIA-41 | -Addon released |
| 01:09.25 | CIA-41 | 03haloed * r56146 10dgks_sexy/ (18 files): |
| 01:09.25 | CIA-41 | dgks_sexy: 20300.0.01 |
| 01:09.25 | CIA-41 | -Addon released |
| 01:10.24 | Lukian | lol what? |
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| 01:18.49 | CIA-41 | 03haloed * r56147 10dgks/ (13 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:18.49 | CIA-41 | dgks: 20300.0.01 |
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| 01:29.15 | NightHawkTheSane | lua> a = { "a" = "a" }; x = a; y = a; if( x==y ) then print("true") else print("false") end |
| 01:29.15 | lua_bot | NightHawkTheSane: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "a = { "a" = "a" }; x = a; y = a; if( x==y ) then print("true") ..."]:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 01:29.52 | NightHawkTheSane | lua>a={a ="a"}; x = a; y = a; if( x==y ) then print("true") else print("false") end |
| 01:29.52 | lua_bot | NightHawkTheSane: true |
| 01:32.36 | Lukian | hmm BankItems is "unknown" category o.O |
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| 01:39.02 | kenlyric_ | give it a category? |
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| 01:40.58 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | heh |
| 01:41.02 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i'll fix it later |
| 01:41.06 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i'm busy making money |
| 01:41.09 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | 6k gold earned now |
| 01:41.13 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | 7k |
| 01:41.41 | NightHawkTheSane | xinhuan, what's with the shit around your name? :P |
| 01:41.50 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | hmm i disconnected earlier |
| 01:41.59 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | and reconnected with this name i use on my other irc's server |
| 01:42.12 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | <No MAAM> is my guild |
| 01:42.23 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | and i run !points !item !rating and a bunch of other bots ;p |
| 01:42.27 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | hence the Guru part |
| 01:42.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate that shit around nicknames, it's fairly pointless. |
| 01:42.55 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i know, hence i don't use it here |
| 01:42.56 | JoshBorke | ~lart NM|Xinhuan|Guru |
| 01:42.56 | purl | overclocks NM|Xinhuan|Guru until NM|Xinhuan|Guru burns out |
| 01:43.10 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | appears i have to leave #wowace-cia to rename it |
| 01:43.16 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | which is why i didn't rename myself by script |
| 01:43.21 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 01:43.24 | NightHawkTheSane | that |
| 01:43.31 | NightHawkTheSane | thats the obnoxious bit about hanging out in wowace-cia |
| 01:43.43 | Xinhuan | pretty nnoying |
| 01:43.48 | RogueShadow | well my guild is <Shadow's End> so there. |
| 01:45.08 | Xinhuan | but for a server channel |
| 01:45.15 | Xinhuan | its pretty common for everyone to prefix their guildtag in front |
| 01:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | even then I say it's lame. but prefixing is even more lame |
| 01:46.11 | NightHawkTheSane | because then you have to type extre, entirely unrelated characters, to tab-commplete their name |
| 01:46.35 | Xinhuan | nobody uses names to talk |
| 01:46.52 | Xinhuan | this is one of the few channels i'm in that uses a Name: blah style culture to chat |
| 01:46.59 | Xinhuan | we just talk directly |
| 01:47.07 | Xinhuan | without name prefixes |
| 01:47.07 | Ellipsis | isn't that confusing? |
| 01:47.10 | Xinhuan | no |
| 01:47.24 | Xinhuan | because the channel almost never has multiple conversations at the same time that are unrelated |
| 01:47.27 | Xinhuan | and interweaved |
| 01:47.30 | starlon | Even if the reply comes 10 minutes later? |
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| 01:47.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: weird, every channel i've been in uses name: blah |
| 01:47.55 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's kinda one of those IRCisms you take for granted o.O |
| 01:48.06 | Xinhuan | if the reply comes 10 min later, the common standard is to paste the entire line you are replying to |
| 01:48.09 | Xinhuan | then reply normally |
| 01:48.12 | Xinhuan | without any name prefix |
| 01:48.21 | Ellipsis | weirdos |
| 01:48.21 | Xinhuan | so that everyone else can see the context you are replying |
| 01:48.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, I use it in a channel where there's only ~4 people, and conversatoin only happens once every three days. |
| 01:48.27 | Xinhuan | withotu scrolling up 200 lines |
| 01:48.41 | deadlock | is there anyway i can use one .tga to skin the entire bottom of the ui.....instead of 4 seperate |
| 01:48.56 | RogueShadow | hmm. is the armory screwed up, or am I screwed up. Or both? |
| 01:48.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: weirdos. |
| 01:49.04 | Xinhuan | not exactly |
| 01:49.10 | Xinhuan | i haven't used your name at all in the last 10 minutes |
| 01:49.20 | Xinhuan | and conversation is perfectly understandable |
| 01:49.25 | JoshBorke | i hate you Xinhuan |
| 01:49.36 | NeoTron | i should start doing it a channel that only has me and one other guy in it |
| 01:49.40 | Xinhuan | i'll rather not have the IRC client ping my name every 2 lines |
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| 01:49.46 | Xinhuan | which is what this channel does |
| 01:49.53 | Ellipsis | yeah RogueShadow I can't get armory to work either |
| 01:50.04 | RogueShadow | Ok. I feel better. |
| 01:50.05 | Ellipsis | Service Temporarily Unavailable |
| 01:50.05 | Ellipsis | The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. |
| 01:50.09 | NeoTron | funny thing is, he often prefixes with his own name to highlight the tab / line on his home client (runs from home and work) if there's a url or what not he wants to check out |
| 01:50.19 | Ellipsis | everyone's checking themselves out on armory in their new gear |
| 01:50.19 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: sounds like wowarmory to me |
| 01:50.29 | NeoTron | and I said that before seeing your comment about the armory.. |
| 01:50.32 | Xinhuan | mirc has a capture url feature that captures all URLs into its own window :) |
| 01:50.41 | RogueShadow | sheesh, take a screenshot people it'll last longer. |
| 01:50.46 | kebinusan | bleh at screwed arena titles |
| 01:50.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yay, my buff reminder addon is about 80% complete. |
| 01:51.07 | Xinhuan | so anyway, i've earned 7k gold since logging on 4 hours ago ;p |
| 01:51.42 | starlon | You could go into business selling gold. |
| 01:51.48 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 01:52.04 | Xinhuan | my goal is to reach 214k gold |
| 01:52.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: i hate you |
| 01:52.22 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^31-1 |
| 01:52.22 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2147483647 |
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| 01:53.06 | Trisorion | . |
| 01:53.14 | Xinhuan | see, my name was pinged 10 times in the last 10 minutes, i find that annoying sometimes ;p |
| 01:53.19 | Xinhuan | even though its unnecessary |
| 01:53.57 | Trisorion | Hey guys, what is the best ace bar (I mean buttons not cast bar) mod in your opinion |
| 01:54.21 | nymbia | Xinhuan: |
| 01:54.32 | Ellipsis | hay Xinhuan |
| 01:54.35 | Ellipsis | how's it goin Xinhuan |
| 01:54.41 | Ellipsis | are you making lots of money Xinhuan? |
| 01:54.54 | Xinhuan | do you hate me? :( |
| 01:55.02 | nymbia | lol |
| 01:55.08 | nymbia | i mean... |
| 01:55.11 | nymbia | lol Xinhuan |
| 01:55.39 | Xinhuan | [2. Trade] blah: "Ctrl Alt Elite" is recruiting! We're a totally Fun and Awesome guild! |
| 01:55.41 | Ellipsis | yes Xinhuan |
| 01:55.46 | Xinhuan | whoa at lame guild names |
| 01:55.47 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I hate you because you're rich |
| 01:56.05 | Trisorion | answer me |
| 01:56.44 | Ellipsis | so like, I quit farming my scryer rep for raid time, and I thought I had enough to get me to exalted anyway |
| 01:56.54 | Ellipsis | so I head back to shatt and turn it all in |
| 01:56.55 | Ellipsis | and: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Cenarius&n=Ellipsis |
| 01:57.12 | Xinhuan | p.s i don't want to load the armory ;p |
| 01:57.19 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 01:57.20 | Ellipsis | 20981/21000 |
| 01:57.26 | Trisorion | lol |
| 01:57.29 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 01:57.35 | Xinhuan | buy oen from AH |
| 01:57.44 | kebinusan | the armory seems to making firefox lock up on my system atm |
| 01:57.45 | Ellipsis | I'm not a mage |
| 01:57.52 | Trisorion | armory is down atm |
| 01:57.53 | Ellipsis | I can't get to the AH and back without a HS :P |
| 01:57.57 | Trisorion | so it dosent matter |
| 01:57.59 | Ellipsis | Trisorion: no, it's just busy |
| 01:58.05 | Ellipsis | if you try enough you can get through |
| 01:58.38 | Trisorion | So blizzard is lying to me with thier "the server is undergoing matenance" error |
| 01:58.56 | Ellipsis | you didn't read it very carefully, did you |
| 01:59.07 | Trisorion | The Armory is currently undergoing maintenance. Please check back later. |
| 01:59.11 | Ellipsis | The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. |
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| 01:59.53 | Xinhuan | must be all the people trying to check their ratings |
| 01:59.59 | Xinhuan | and arena rank |
| 02:00.02 | Xinhuan | from work |
| 02:00.12 | ulic | I'll check your rating, it's 1500 |
| 02:00.20 | Mudkips | o snap |
| 02:00.35 | Xinhuan | are you sure its all reset to 1500 on the armory though? |
| 02:00.48 | Xinhuan | people might not have logged in yet to update data |
| 02:00.52 | ulic | if it's not then the armory is probably wrong :) |
| 02:01.12 | Xinhuan | armory usually has a habit of being 1-2 days out of day anyway? |
| 02:01.17 | Xinhuan | out of date* |
| 02:01.41 | ulic | mines usually only a few hours, but I can't say I monitor it very closely. |
| 02:02.00 | Diao | this new season rocks |
| 02:02.06 | Diao | lol |
| 02:02.13 | Mudkips | how it does rock? |
| 02:02.24 | Mudkips | I know it's going to rock my gold profits |
| 02:02.26 | Mudkips | muahahahah |
| 02:02.26 | Diao | upgraded 3 of my non-arena pieces to arena stuff |
| 02:02.30 | Diao | and 5 other pieces |
| 02:02.39 | Diao | plus i am selling large prismatics at like 30g each |
| 02:02.42 | Estil | this new season rocks (non-warrior faces) |
| 02:02.44 | Diao | and stacks of adamantite for 40g |
| 02:02.46 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB button in my systray that switches the default audio output device for windows on click |
| 02:02.52 | Diao | massive profit |
| 02:02.53 | Estil | and kalgan will rock a s3 weapon within first week |
| 02:03.33 | Mudkips | we should all just reroll warlocks for arena and roll out faces on the keyboard |
| 02:03.43 | Estil | nah |
| 02:03.44 | Mudkips | while we laugh at how much points we are gaining |
| 02:03.47 | Estil | then warriors with s3 weapon |
| 02:03.51 | Estil | will smash your face in |
| 02:03.55 | Estil | and you'll lose all the points |
| 02:03.57 | Estil | and warriors will laugh |
| 02:04.14 | kebinusan | yeah its nice getting pigeonholed into sl/sl to be arena viable |
| 02:04.19 | Diao | nobody goes sl/sl |
| 02:04.21 | Diao | anymore |
| 02:04.23 | Diao | it's all about felguard |
| 02:04.27 | Estil | wtf felguard |
| 02:04.29 | Ellipsis | I lol'ed |
| 02:05.00 | Estil | I don't bother with my warlock now |
| 02:05.05 | Estil | my priest survives and is more useful |
| 02:05.06 | Estil | in arena |
| 02:05.08 | KarlThePagan | wtf sl/sl is still awesome |
| 02:05.12 | KarlThePagan | even with ms affecting |
| 02:05.15 | kebinusan | warriors are way op'd |
| 02:05.23 | Diao | well in 3s and 5s |
| 02:05.25 | Diao | felguard is superior |
| 02:05.26 | Estil | you know something is not right |
| 02:05.27 | Diao | in 2s sl/sl still rules |
| 02:05.32 | Estil | when a priest survives warriors better than warlocks |
| 02:05.33 | KarlThePagan | maybe in 5's felguard is ok |
| 02:05.35 | kebinusan | I think sl/sl will be less useful in s3 cause of spell penetration gear |
| 02:05.40 | ulic | can you open a multi item mail, take a few items out, and leave the rest in there for up to 30 days? |
| 02:05.48 | Estil | yes |
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| 02:05.51 | KarlThePagan | ulic, yes - I do it all the time :0 |
| 02:05.53 | Estil | they changed it for a while now |
| 02:05.57 | ulic | sweet! |
| 02:05.59 | Estil | all mails stay for 30 days regardless of what you do to it |
| 02:06.03 | Estil | until you atke out all the content |
| 02:06.24 | Estil | anyway |
| 02:06.25 | ulic | I haven't checked since that put that in, but cut gems take up so much bloody space, I can leave some in the mail. |
| 02:06.27 | Estil | my priest feels overpowered |
| 02:06.30 | Estil | with gear |
| 02:06.33 | Diao | lol |
| 02:06.36 | Diao | how many pieces did you buy today |
| 02:06.38 | Estil | overpowered as in, he doesn't kill anyone, but he isn't dying |
| 02:06.44 | Estil | er |
| 02:06.47 | Estil | 7 or so pieces |
| 02:06.55 | Diao | 3 s3, x s1, x honor? |
| 02:07.06 | Estil | let's see, weapon, offhand, pants, gloves, s3 helm and chest |
| 02:07.16 | Estil | buying 2 min trinket tomorrow |
| 02:07.20 | Estil | so I guess theoretically 7 |
| 02:07.24 | Diao | ah |
| 02:07.29 | Diao | wait you didn't get s3 glove? |
| 02:07.40 | Estil | s3 glove actually has 1 or 2 less resil |
| 02:07.41 | Estil | than s1 gloevs |
| 02:07.47 | Diao | but massive hp! |
| 02:07.56 | Estil | and s1 glove and s3 has different bonuses |
| 02:08.07 | Estil | s1 glove is 1 more extended second on PS, s3 glove is -3 sec off PS Cooldown |
| 02:08.21 | Diao | o_O |
| 02:08.24 | Diao | -3 sec is better |
| 02:08.25 | Diao | lol |
| 02:08.30 | Estil | eh s3 glove is cheap |
| 02:08.32 | Estil | I can get it soon |
| 02:08.33 | Diao | yea |
| 02:08.35 | Estil | chest and helm is much bigger upgrade |
| 02:08.43 | Estil | due to me using pve chest and blue warlord helm |
| 02:08.52 | Diao | oh |
| 02:08.58 | Diao | i thought you had 5k points |
| 02:09.02 | Estil | no |
| 02:09.04 | Estil | 3.8k |
| 02:09.08 | Diao | oh ok |
| 02:09.13 | Diao | nm then |
| 02:09.14 | Diao | that's why |
| 02:09.24 | Estil | anyway |
| 02:09.29 | Diao | 2min trink tomorrow |
| 02:09.31 | Diao | then we play 3s tomorrow |
| 02:09.37 | Estil | ok :p |
| 02:09.45 | Estil | I prefer we do it friday but we'll see |
| 02:10.34 | Diao | oh |
| 02:10.35 | Diao | k |
| 02:13.25 | harldephin | hm. Outfitter seems to not work correctly with the druid's 2.3 form changing method. |
| 02:28.22 | CIA-41 | 03damjau * r56150 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 02:28.22 | CIA-41 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:28.22 | CIA-41 | - Tradeskill - update koKR locals |
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| 02:30.47 | CIA-41 | 03damjau * r56151 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 02:30.47 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:30.47 | CIA-41 | - update koKR locals |
| 02:31.06 | RaydenUni | the crap? |
| 02:31.09 | RaydenUni | destromath is full? |
| 02:31.30 | RaydenUni | i haven't seen a queue in forever |
| 02:31.52 | nymbia | be glad it's just 'full' instead of 'massive queues for the past month for some reason' |
| 02:35.03 | RaydenUni | 159! |
| 02:40.26 | CIA-41 | 03damjau * r56152 10PetBar/ (PetBar.lua PetBar.toc): |
| 02:40.26 | CIA-41 | PetBar: - bump .toc |
| 02:40.26 | CIA-41 | - fix taint problem. |
| 02:40.26 | CIA-41 | - add koKR locals |
| 02:42.07 | CIA-41 | 03damjau * r56153 10TrackingBar/TrackingBar.toc: TrackingBar - fix Metadata(title) |
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| 02:51.30 | Poul|Raider | anyone that can come up with a addon that from the loot event find the looter, from and item lootet that i could look at. |
| 02:52.38 | Gngsk | wait, what? |
| 02:53.07 | Gngsk | oh, you want to see who looted what item? |
| 02:53.08 | Codayus | Uh...I'm kinda translating that as "is their an addon that can tell me: Raider X looted Item Y from Mob Z" |
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| 02:55.54 | Poul|Raider | i just want the function |
| 02:55.59 | Poul|Raider | instead of writing it my self |
| 02:56.32 | dylanm | There are things that track all loot being gotten |
| 02:56.42 | dylanm | Can't remember names off the top of my head |
| 02:56.48 | Codayus | In general, I believe the answer is no. You can find the item and who received it, but not where it came from. You also can't find who triggered the looting, which is important in the case of money, group loot, and master loot. |
| 02:57.08 | dylanm | Oh in that much detail |
| 02:57.11 | Gnarfoz | watch for LOOT_OPENED |
| 02:57.30 | Poul|Raider | just give me the name of a addon that have some kind of loot history and it have the function |
| 02:57.45 | Codayus | Some raid trackers will spit out a list of all epics that dropped, who won them, and in some cases, which bossed dropped them. |
| 02:57.48 | Codayus | CTRT |
| 02:58.12 | Gnarfoz | Xloot ^^ |
| 02:58.13 | Codayus | Or even better, NRT |
| 02:58.20 | Poul|Raider | tx |
| 02:59.31 | dylanm | Does XLoot Monitor do any of that? |
| 02:59.37 | Xuerian | in kara. |
| 02:59.55 | Gnarfoz | XLootHistory displays who looted what |
| 03:00.15 | kenlyric_ | do I want to level an orc warrior in the BE starting zone? Am I going to find any gear? |
| 03:00.27 | Codayus | Oh, hmm, somehow, I forgot XLoot History did that... |
| 03:00.50 | Codayus | But yeah, it has no idea of where the item came from. |
| 03:00.52 | Xuerian | monitor does |
| 03:00.58 | Xuerian | but not where it came from |
| 03:01.21 | Gnarfoz | bleh skyshatter keeps pwning me |
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| 03:01.32 | Xinhuan | an addon can easily recorded which zone the loot was given out in |
| 03:01.37 | Gnarfoz | or rather, I'm too tired to own him, I'll do that "tomorrow" then ^^ |
| 03:01.42 | Xinhuan | just not from which mob specifically |
| 03:01.53 | kenlyric_ | am I going to be able to level inhmm, mt |
| 03:02.02 | Poul|Raider | np Xinhuan, just copy pasted from CTRT. |
| 03:02.02 | kenlyric_ | damn, mt x2 |
| 03:02.57 | Codayus | Hmm, if you made EVERYONE in the raid install a mod, should be able to find what mob dropped the loot... |
| 03:03.06 | Codayus | I think. Probably. |
| 03:03.10 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 03:03.15 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure that the person with loot rights is available in the base UI now |
| 03:03.16 | Gnarfoz | since you don't have to target a mob to loot it |
| 03:03.26 | Codayus | Gnarfoz: Monitor mouse over? |
| 03:03.30 | Antiarc | Or else Cowtip has figured out how to show who owns a corpse with some arcane magickery. |
| 03:03.44 | Codayus | Antiarc: That's in the base UI, yes. |
| 03:03.45 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: no, that's base ui and wasn't possible before ^^ |
| 03:04.05 | Antiarc | Man, I wish I had that in MC |
| 03:04.12 | Antiarc | SOMEONE LOOT THE DAMN HOUND |
| 03:04.14 | Codayus | "LOOT THE FRIGGING DOG!" |
| 03:04.48 | Codayus | "OKAY WTF, WE ARE GOING TO STOP RIGHT HERE UNTIL THE DOG GETS LOOTED." <-- MC equivalent of "I'm going to turn this car around" I guess? |
| 03:04.54 | Antiarc | Hahah |
| 03:04.55 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 03:05.01 | Effah | lol we actually have a "LOOT THE F*CKING DOG" macro that the ldrs used to spam |
| 03:05.09 | Codayus | Yeah, we had it macroed... |
| 03:05.10 | Antiarc | Us too |
| 03:05.13 | Effah | hahaha |
| 03:05.38 | Codayus | In the end, I think we ended up resorting to putting it on free for all, and having a designated looter, with dire threats and penalties for unauthorized looters. |
| 03:06.10 | Codayus | Loot twice without being the designated looter = /kicked from raid. In retrospect, I assume we were on drugs at the time. |
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| 03:06.10 | kebinusan | a guild on my old realm was named <Loot the Dog> |
| 03:06.46 | Antiarc | Oh man |
| 03:06.54 | Antiarc | I saw the best guild ever yesterday |
| 03:06.56 | Antiarc | <Artisan Fishminer> |
| 03:07.05 | Codayus | Heh, early on in SSC we tried to revive the memories with "loot the giant!", but it just wasn't funny any more... |
| 03:07.34 | Xinhuan | <TwoGirlsOneCup> |
| 03:07.46 | Xinhuan | i'm surprised nobody reported this one yet |
| 03:08.03 | Keias | there's one hordeside named <Two Gnomes One Cup> |
| 03:08.12 | Ellipsis | that's because the people who actually get it are too busy gagging at the memory to report |
| 03:08.17 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 03:08.37 | Codayus | Hmm, best guild name I've seen recently is <Lobster go PEENCH PEENCH>, which is vaguely amusing but harmless (unless I'm really not getting a joke...) |
| 03:08.57 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 03:08.58 | Ellipsis | I discovered a horrible one today on my realm |
| 03:09.01 | Xinhuan | i like that |
| 03:09.10 | Ellipsis | <Vent Cybers R Us> |
| 03:09.33 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 03:10.09 | Xinhuan | <Ctrl Alt Elite> and <We Hate Guilds> |
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| 03:12.11 | Aeyan | Guild names are my primary method of selecting pvp victims, hehe |
| 03:12.19 | Aeyan | And that's friggin awesome, Antiarc |
| 03:12.23 | Effah | There. mIRC on Laptop, WoW on desktop ... Wi/Win |
| 03:14.00 | Codayus | Speaking of names... |
| 03:14.14 | CIA-41 | 037destiny * r56154 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 03:14.14 | CIA-41 | StatLogicLib: |
| 03:14.15 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.58 | Codayus | We've recently had applicants including Hoochymama, Yomomasface (note, the 'o' in "moma"), Ballzofsteel, Babygrl, Snypedyoazz, Oldfart, Lokithegodof, and Meezgotbeer. |
| 03:16.27 | Codayus | I swear, back in my day, we put some THOUGHT into our characters names. Damn kids. And get off my lawn! :-( |
| 03:16.42 | CIA-41 | 03damjau * r56155 10OnScreenHealth/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 03:16.42 | CIA-41 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 03:16.42 | CIA-41 | - update koKR locals |
| 03:17.48 | Gnarfoz | Codayus: that's what paid name change is for :D |
| 03:18.09 | Ellipsis | srsly |
| 03:18.58 | Codayus | It's getting so bad, we're thinking of setting up a guild fund to PAY for some people to get name changes. |
| 03:20.00 | Ellipsis | is my name cool enough for your guild? |
| 03:23.43 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 03:23.50 | Ellipsis | yay! can I join? |
| 03:23.58 | Codayus | Actually, we invited most of those... :-( |
| 03:24.09 | Codayus | We just complained among officers about doing it. |
| 03:25.04 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 03:25.21 | Codayus | If your serious, you wouldn't be the first person from this channel... |
| 03:25.40 | Ellipsis | maybe, is your guild alliance pve? |
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| 03:25.55 | Codayus | US, PVE Alliance, PST timezone. |
| 03:26.11 | Effah | Hmm. Ok, new to lua, so noticing something strange happening here. |
| 03:27.12 | Effah | I have elements in a table. in this case, k=1 and v=string .... So why would table[k] return nil? |
| 03:27.50 | dylanm | Gonna have to show a little more than that. What's the table look like? |
| 03:28.24 | Codayus | Casual raid guild. More casual than raid at the moment. 3 T5 bossed down, 3 ZA bosses. Raid Mon/Wed 9pm - midnight, Fri 9pm - 1am. |
| 03:29.34 | Effah | Hmm. well. I added the elemnt via this: table.insert(displaytable, answertable2[currIndex]) |
| 03:29.45 | Effah | and it was the only "row" in that table. |
| 03:30.10 | Effah | so when looping through, k=1 and v=Stuff. |
| 03:30.40 | CIA-41 | 03xinhuan * r56156 10BankItems/ (BankItems.lua BankItems.toc): BankItems: Add comments, update patch notes, TOC fields, miscellaneous stuff. |
| 03:31.03 | dylanm | What does v have to do with anything? |
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| 03:32.31 | Effah | It doesn't, just wanted to show that key=1 and value=string, so it's not like table[key] would = "" or nil etc... |
| 03:34.49 | Codayus | Ah, our new recruit Ballsofsteel informs us that he has a horde hunter called... "Hardshaft"... |
| 03:34.54 | Codayus | *sigh* |
| 03:35.02 | xyu | azgalor is pretty tough :( |
| 03:35.05 | Xuerian | ... |
| 03:35.07 | xyu | i hate reclearing the damn trash |
| 03:35.09 | Effah | Do Blizz have ANY standards for name changes now? |
| 03:37.07 | Effah | I feel so inadequate. My guild hasn't downed Vashj yet |
| 03:37.31 | Codayus | Effah: My guild has downed Lurker, VR, and Solarian. So... |
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| 03:37.39 | Codayus | You can feel superior to us. :-) |
| 03:37.48 | Effah | :P |
| 03:42.25 | Poul|Raider | "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_FRIENDLY_DEATH" does that fire when NPC's dies, enemy that is? |
| 03:42.51 | dylanm | You have a strange definition of friend. |
| 03:42.56 | Effah | Doesn't sound friendly to me :) |
| 03:43.42 | Poul|Raider | :d |
| 03:43.57 | Poul|Raider | just saw it in some of my old code and was wondering |
| 03:44.19 | Poul|Raider | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH |
| 03:44.23 | Effah | I'd have to assume it means faction member |
| 03:44.24 | Poul|Raider | maybe i should use that instead |
| 03:44.43 | Effah | that sounds good. :0 |
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| 03:45.25 | Effah | Hey Hero, you apping for Codayus' guild? |
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| 03:52.45 | Erica | Hi... any issues with violation right now? |
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| 03:57.03 | harldephin | hm well. at least any lack of patience is not an issue with violation. |
| 03:57.47 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 04:00.15 | Effah | lol |
| 04:00.47 | Gnarfoz | and down they go :( |
| 04:01.08 | Gnarfoz | time to get some (2 hours? omg -.-) sleep before work ^^ |
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| 04:04.17 | Antiarc | I have this uncontrollable urge to register a .cn domain and use it for all my useful code |
| 04:04.25 | Antiarc | Just so people can scream KEYLOGGER OMG WTF |
| 04:04.28 | Diao | lol |
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| 04:06.11 | Antiar1 | Dahaha, woo rails |
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| 04:10.55 | hyperChipmunk | do we have a mod that tracks threat over time for graphing? recount doesn't seem to do it, and I don't see graphlib in omen anymore |
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| 04:21.16 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: threat or tps? |
| 04:21.29 | hyperChipmunk | threat |
| 04:22.03 | hyperChipmunk | one of my friends is a druid in a raid and his class leader is getting on him about being careful about lifeblooming high-threat non-tank raid units |
| 04:22.37 | JoshBorke | i see |
| 04:22.56 | hyperChipmunk | be ideal to see what percentage of time a given person tends to be close enough to the tank that a bloom would push them over |
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| 04:30.09 | JoshBorke | ask cryect for it |
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| 04:30.36 | hyperChipmunk | me? |
| 04:30.42 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 04:30.50 | hyperChipmunk | any reason he would know? |
| 04:31.22 | JoshBorke | he wrote graphlib |
| 04:31.30 | hyperChipmunk | ohh, right |
| 04:31.32 | hyperChipmunk | THAT cyrect |
| 04:31.58 | hyperChipmunk | so many people here anymore that i forget people |
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| 04:32.16 | hyperChipmunk | Cryect: /stabstabstabstab |
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| 04:36.49 | Andune | OK, so a quick search of 'eqcompare' through my chat history shows that it's now built into the game with shift-hover. For those of us who liked this functionality without having to hit shift, is there any way to turn it back on so it works like EQcompare used to? |
| 04:38.18 | dylanm | I just use tekKompare :p |
| 04:39.39 | Cryect | what would I know? |
| 04:40.03 | Andune | dylanm: ok thx |
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| 04:41.17 | zls | ? |
| 04:43.56 | CIA-41 | 03dfscott * r56157 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (ALGChap_22.lua AzuarcLevelGuide.lua AzuarcLevelGuide.toc): |
| 04:43.56 | CIA-41 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 04:43.56 | CIA-41 | - Fix bug with act selection |
| 04:43.56 | CIA-41 | - fix problems with act 22 quotes |
| 04:43.56 | CIA-41 | - add act 22 to toc |
| 04:44.17 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 04:45.19 | hyperChipmunk | i need a mod that keeps track of total threat over time; recount graphs dps and hps in and out, but no threat--and I'm looking for total threat, not per-second |
| 04:45.28 | zls | Hi |
| 04:46.03 | zls | Hi |
| 04:46.11 | zls | Hi |
| 04:46.24 | zls | :( |
| 04:46.34 | Cryect | well Recount does that just have to press the integrate button |
| 04:46.43 | Cryect | in the graphing window that is |
| 04:46.48 | zls | list wowace |
| 04:46.52 | zls | list #wowace |
| 04:46.58 | zls | uhh no one can hear this right |
| 04:47.02 | dylanm | zls: Totally can. |
| 04:47.03 | Cryect | can hear it fine |
| 04:47.15 | zls | oh well that's embarressing |
| 04:48.24 | zls | also can anyone help me set up SVN with the Ace3 alpha repo? |
| 04:48.30 | Cryect | so whats that have to do with graphlib? |
| 04:48.53 | hyperChipmunk | Cryect: that solves the total from tps, but recount doesn't offer tps graph |
| 04:49.09 | hyperChipmunk | JoshBorke said you might know of a threat-tracking addon that might use it |
| 04:49.57 | Cryect | why do you want to see graph of total threat and not TPS? |
| 04:49.59 | JoshBorke | oh no, i was saying tell cryect to write it |
| 04:50.03 | JoshBorke | and i agree cryect |
| 04:50.08 | hyperChipmunk | one of my friends is a druid in a raid and his class leader is getting on him about being careful about lifeblooming high-threat non-tank raid units |
| 04:50.15 | hyperChipmunk | be ideal to see what percentage of time a given person tends to be close enough to the tank that a bloom would push them over |
| 04:50.27 | Cryect | Except bloom gives threat to the druid who casted it |
| 04:50.43 | JoshBorke | that sounds about right |
| 04:50.49 | Cryect | so... yeah |
| 04:50.57 | hyperChipmunk | the caster is the target |
| 04:51.10 | hyperChipmunk | the healing is attributed to him |
| 04:51.11 | Cryect | Heh yes but the threat is attributed to the druid |
| 04:51.30 | Cryect | you can test it out and pull aggro to the druid in tests |
| 04:51.31 | hyperChipmunk | then the guy has no case at all |
| 04:51.51 | Cryect | there was a writeup about it like half a year ago on EJ Forums |
| 04:52.09 | hyperChipmunk | oh well shoot |
| 04:52.16 | hyperChipmunk | silly me for not noticing that |
| 04:52.24 | Cryect | Well its kinda strange |
| 04:52.48 | hyperChipmunk | a 6-month old post about a class i've never played on a random message board |
| 04:52.54 | hyperChipmunk | i can't believe i missed it! |
| 04:52.56 | Cryect | haha |
| 04:53.07 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: i can, you're n00b like that |
| 04:53.17 | Cryect | you just aren't hyper enough |
| 04:54.23 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: i bet you could write an addon pretty quick |
| 04:54.32 | Cryect | Pretty much |
| 04:54.52 | JoshBorke | graphlib is pretty easy to use |
| 04:55.38 | Cryect | Really sounds like what he wanted to graph was person's threat minus tank threat or something |
| 04:56.10 | hyperChipmunk | well it wasn't the graph so much as knowing the total threat at any given time |
| 04:56.11 | hyperChipmunk | and yes |
| 04:56.24 | Cryect | yeah don't need graph for that :-p |
| 04:56.27 | hyperChipmunk | i know |
| 04:56.36 | hyperChipmunk | but graphing means tracking over time |
| 04:56.40 | zls | So I am trying to connect to svn with a terminal and it is difficult and stuff! |
| 04:56.42 | Cryect | yep |
| 04:57.12 | hyperChipmunk | so you seem to be a logical person to go to when initial efforts failed |
| 04:58.11 | Cryect | anyways time to sleep |
| 05:01.10 | hyperChipmunk | weak |
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| 05:05.23 | JoshBorke | nn |
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| 05:06.24 | zls | does anyone connect to the svn via the uhh tigris svn client? terminal based? |
| 05:07.31 | kergoth | zls: no offense, but rtfm. the svn book covers usage. |
| 05:07.38 | kergoth | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 05:08.21 | zls | didn't even know where to look! the idiot page just said "ask on irc" |
| 05:08.58 | zls | is it even a worthwhile endeavor if i'm not making commits? |
| 05:09.13 | Shirik | not really |
| 05:09.14 | harldephin | oO |
| 05:09.19 | Shirik | you could just use WAU.. |
| 05:09.27 | Shirik | WAU updates through SVN afaik |
| 05:09.37 | kergoth | if you arent developing, its probably overkill |
| 05:10.03 | KarlThePagan | Shirik, wau uses files.wowace.com which is 15 minute auto builds i think |
| 05:10.07 | Shirik | ah |
| 05:10.10 | harldephin | yep |
| 05:10.13 | KarlThePagan | it's much nicer on the servers than svn |
| 05:10.20 | Shirik | oh well, 15 minutes is hardly out of date :P |
| 05:10.24 | KarlThePagan | yea ;) |
| 05:10.26 | Shirik | the end result is essentially the same |
| 05:10.35 | KarlThePagan | yup |
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| 05:11.13 | zls | I didn't know WAU could get to the Ace3 alpha |
| 05:13.39 | zls | I am developing but it is buggy, i couldn't submit something with bugs! |
| 05:14.06 | harldephin | then don't. |
| 05:14.35 | todd` | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=828zn76&s=1 <-- anyone know what font that is? |
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| 05:16.12 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
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| 05:18.55 | harldephin | sty |
| 05:22.38 | kaiden | todd`, not sure but if you find out let me know please |
| 05:22.41 | kaiden | that font is sexy |
| 05:23.24 | zls | can I ask a Lua question? |
| 05:24.03 | Wobwork | ~asktoask |
| 05:24.03 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 05:24.05 | grennon | can, or may? |
| 05:24.51 | zls | i feel like an outsider! |
| 05:24.52 | kaiden | zls, permission denied :P |
| 05:24.54 | kaiden | lol |
| 05:25.04 | harldephin | :p |
| 05:25.21 | zls | When do you use a do end block? |
| 05:25.37 | zls | I'm looking at aceGUI and they have them scattered here and there |
| 05:26.08 | Wobwork | when you want to cordon off a section of your code to contain locals within a certain scope only |
| 05:26.54 | zls | ah ok |
| 05:27.05 | zls | and another more specific question, they start off with a couple lines like |
| 05:27.07 | kaiden | when you are really sad you can use in conjunction with enditall to do a non graceful exit |
| 05:27.11 | kaiden | sowwy *laughs to himself* |
| 05:27.24 | harldephin | :p |
| 05:27.29 | zls | local pcall = pcall |
| 05:27.38 | zls | what is the purpose of that? |
| 05:28.11 | kaiden | setting a local variable to a global variable? not really sure why they would... |
| 05:28.14 | harldephin | world domination. |
| 05:28.29 | kaiden | btw owl pet == RAWRRRRR *screech* |
| 05:28.40 | Xinhuan | it localizes that variable |
| 05:28.49 | Xinhuan | so calling it becomes a local reference to that function |
| 05:28.56 | Xinhuan | instead of a global _G[] lookup |
| 05:29.02 | Antiarc | ..... |
| 05:29.02 | Antiarc | http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/11/french-reveal-p.html |
| 05:29.27 | Antiarc | First thing to come to mind = http://www.galacticempiredatabank.com/Probot.jpg |
| 05:29.59 | kaiden | Antiarc, his last name is Zazzo.. you know what that means right? |
| 05:30.01 | grennon | dont taze me pierre! |
| 05:30.03 | kaiden | he'll one day rule the world |
| 05:30.40 | harldephin | lol |
| 05:30.48 | harldephin | kinda gross |
| 05:30.56 | kaiden | that's the way this world is going |
| 05:31.05 | kaiden | it was inevitable the first time they appeared in the movies |
| 05:31.16 | kaiden | same with robots running a muck and vampires and wearwolves.. |
| 05:31.19 | kaiden | we will soon all perish |
| 05:31.22 | zls | Theyhave a whole block of localmirrorings to that and just don't see the purpose, i thought maybe it was some complex hooking thing |
| 05:31.37 | Antiarc | I want to have a pet evil floating tazer drone. |
| 05:31.41 | Antiarc | It would be the best pet ever. |
| 05:32.06 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 05:32.32 | harldephin | i'm actually a werewolf myself, so this one's for real :) |
| 05:32.32 | Xinhuan | its just localizing globals so the calls are a few clock cycles faster, at the expense of 4 bytes of memory to store that reference |
| 05:32.37 | Antiarc | You don't understand. I have two evil cats, which are great pets, but they don't shock the bejeebers out of people when I tell them to. |
| 05:32.57 | Antiarc | I would name my taser drone "Bro" |
| 05:33.59 | zls | is that a common thing to do, xinhuan? |
| 05:34.03 | Xinhuan | fairly common |
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| 05:34.16 | Xinhuan | a local is stored on the function stack, if its inside a function |
| 05:34.22 | Xinhuan | so its always faster to access that |
| 05:34.47 | zls | oh I will have to try that, is the local environment easily accessible in any fun way like _G ? |
| 05:35.07 | Xinhuan | there is a fancy way, but if you can use the variable directly |
| 05:35.10 | Xinhuan | its already the fastest |
| 05:35.39 | Xinhuan | getfenv(1) gets the current function callstack i think! |
| 05:35.39 | zls | well if you need to mess with strings and stuff |
| 05:35.47 | zls | ahh as a table? |
| 05:35.58 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 05:36.11 | Xinhuan | but accessing a table is slow |
| 05:36.14 | Nargiddley | that will get you the global env unless you've used setfenv afaik |
| 05:36.18 | Xinhuan | a lot slower than a variable |
| 05:36.29 | Arrowmaster | and if you use _G a lot remember to do local _G = getfenv(0) first |
| 05:36.35 | zls | ohhh neat, i need to read up on those, i read a lot of PiL but that part was confusing for me |
| 05:36.41 | zls | why arrowmaster ? |
| 05:36.45 | Xinhuan | notice i said getfenv(1), not 0 ;p |
| 05:37.07 | Arrowmaster | because accessing a global table is slower than a local table |
| 05:37.25 | zls | by the same difference as accessing a local variable compared to a global variable? |
| 05:37.26 | Arrowmaster | check the coding tips page on wowace |
| 05:37.37 | Arrowmaster | i think tables are even slower, not sure |
| 05:37.51 | zls | I thought I had maybe there are new ones, will do thanks :D |
| 05:38.08 | zls | oh one more thing that has been itching me awhile |
| 05:38.22 | zls | is there a way to do phrases in Lua regex? |
| 05:38.38 | Xinhuan | phrases? |
| 05:38.39 | Arrowmaster | phrases? |
| 05:38.53 | zls | like in perl you can parenthesise a string to have it match that string instead of a single character |
| 05:39.01 | zls | this is a bad example but like |
| 05:39.05 | Xinhuan | can't do it in lua |
| 05:39.08 | zls | oh |
| 05:39.15 | zls | rats |
| 05:39.18 | Arrowmaster | you mean (phrase1|phrase2)? |
| 05:39.23 | zls | yeah |
| 05:39.28 | Arrowmaster | not in lua |
| 05:40.07 | Arrowmaster | () are captures in lua, although you can still use them to group stuff |
| 05:40.35 | Arrowmaster | (phrase)? would match 0 or 1 phrase i think still |
| 05:40.58 | zls | i will try it, i think i got a syntax error :/ |
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| 05:41.20 | Arrowmaster | check the section on patterns in the 5.1 manual |
| 05:41.50 | Xinhuan | nah, (phrase) will just capture and return "phrase" as %1 |
| 05:41.55 | Xinhuan | and only match that |
| 05:41.56 | Arrowmaster | and also lua-users.org/wiki |
| 05:42.40 | zls | but what if you use a count modifier on ( )? I am pretty sure I tried that and got errors but I'm messing with the interpreter right now |
| 05:42.42 | Arrowmaster | i thought you could put a magic char after it though to make it match like 0 or 1 |
| 05:42.59 | Kuja^ | nymbia: the error i mentioned yesterday gone away when i moved the pt3-reputation folder into my addons folder |
| 05:43.20 | Xinhuan | that character is ? |
| 05:45.54 | zls | so ? but only ? works? |
| 05:46.04 | Arrowmaster | actually i dont think you can |
| 05:46.13 | Arrowmaster | not seeing anything when searching |
| 05:46.50 | Xinhuan | those are only affecting the char class before it |
| 05:47.04 | Xinhuan | you can't really group up a "phrase" in any way in lua |
| 05:47.35 | Xinhuan | best you can do is [a-e]? which would mean 0 or 1 of [a-e] |
| 05:48.13 | zls | I guess that feature was too heavy to be worth it? |
| 05:48.22 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 05:48.40 | Arrowmaster | lua patterns are gimp as hell compared to posix |
| 05:48.54 | Xinhuan | if they included the whole regex into lua, the entire thing would be larger than the lua core itself |
| 05:49.07 | Xinhuan | which they didn't want as lua is meant to be embedded into small systems with limited ram |
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| 05:50.12 | Xinhuan | if you want (phrase1|phrase2), you would just have to extract out the substring and compare it to see if its phrase1 or phrase2, or do 2 seperate searches for each phrase |
| 05:50.36 | zls | nevertheless, i know this probably has little to do with ctual implementation but phrases aren't particularly hard to match are they? i mean, in regex theory? |
| 05:50.47 | Xinhuan | no clue |
| 05:51.51 | Arrowmaster | you cant even do repetition in lua |
| 05:52.07 | zls | what do yo mean? |
| 05:52.32 | zls | also this may be the totally wrong place to say it, but the "Printable Version" of the wowace.com pages are printing ads |
| 05:52.37 | zls | even though the ads don't display |
| 05:52.38 | Xinhuan | means you can't check for repetitions of a character |
| 05:52.56 | Arrowmaster | pattern{number} |
| 05:53.10 | Xinhuan | hmm that works? |
| 05:53.17 | Arrowmaster | not in lua |
| 05:53.19 | Xinhuan | i thought { } aren't special in lua patterns |
| 05:53.23 | Arrowmaster | does in posix regex |
| 05:53.36 | zls | I don't think lua does any memory based regex beyond captures |
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| 05:54.25 | zls | augh and the ads print on top of the text |
| 05:54.42 | Xinhuan | why would you print it |
| 05:54.56 | Arrowmaster | that doesnt sound good, tell kaelton |
| 05:54.57 | zls | to read on the road |
| 05:55.27 | zls | would sending a pm on wowace.com be the way to reach him? |
| 05:55.35 | Arrowmaster | sure |
| 05:55.35 | Xinhuan | cut/paste into msword before printing imo |
| 05:56.02 | Xinhuan | that way you can set font size, margins etc too |
| 05:56.07 | Xinhuan | save paper |
| 05:56.15 | zls | open office :P |
| 05:57.09 | zls | I think i may have tried that and had the formatting of the code tags screwed up |
| 05:57.20 | zls | i dunno i'll tell kaelton |
| 05:58.19 | Xinhuan | you can hold down the alt key in firefox |
| 05:58.24 | Xinhuan | to copy table cells rather than text |
| 05:58.30 | Xinhuan | works a whole lot better usually |
| 05:58.38 | Xinhuan | or is it ctrl key |
| 05:58.42 | Xinhuan | one of them anyway |
| 05:59.11 | zls | ah neat will try next time |
| 05:59.30 | zls | for now i'll deal with the Network SOlutions (R) advert on my coding tips page |
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| 06:00.08 | Xinhuan | or, disable downloading graphics of any kind, then print ;p |
| 06:00.26 | Tekkub | wow, I love stupid people... |
| 06:00.43 | Xinhuan | you mean that cartographer thread Tekkub? |
| 06:00.47 | Tekkub | so, arcane dust, seen 603 today at 2x the old price... |
| 06:01.11 | Tekkub | I put up my two stacks thinking, joy, another retard mule I need to ignore fucking with auction prices |
| 06:01.23 | Tekkub | and... they just sold... like <5 min |
| 06:01.25 | Xinhuan | its not, its season 3 |
| 06:01.33 | grennon | dude, you should have charged more |
| 06:01.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah everything went up in price |
| 06:01.46 | grennon | for the OCD retards who have to enchant their pvp gear tonight or not at all |
| 06:02.01 | Xinhuan | so far, my gross revenue/turnover since servers came up is 10364g |
| 06:02.11 | Tekkub | buggerfuck |
| 06:02.23 | Tekkub | okey well, time to crush every green I find |
| 06:02.24 | Xinhuan | i spent about 1k, so i still have 9k more than i started with |
| 06:02.38 | zls | ohhh boy season 3 i might have a drake |
| 06:02.48 | zls | (that i won't pay to ride) |
| 06:02.52 | Tekkub | true... there's _NO_ essence on the AH |
| 06:03.02 | Tekkub | I thought that was odd, a week ago I couldn't move it |
| 06:03.02 | Wobwork | http://xkcd.com/350/ is cool |
| 06:03.21 | Xinhuan | i earned 21k gold on season 2's first two days |
| 06:03.26 | Xinhuan | i'm trying to beat the record this season |
| 06:03.33 | zls | how much money do you have to invest to make that much? |
| 06:03.43 | Xinhuan | have about 50k gold atm |
| 06:03.51 | CIA-41 | 03quagmire * r56158 10nQuestLog/ (70 files in 23 dirs): |
| 06:03.51 | CIA-41 | nQuestLog: |
| 06:03.51 | CIA-41 | - Finished deDE locales with translations from harldephin. |
| 06:03.51 | CIA-41 | - Converted all ANSI files to UTF-8. |
| 06:03.51 | CIA-41 | - Replaced UTF-8 numeric codes with the characters those codes represent. |
| 06:03.57 | Tekkub | how long does a season last anyway? |
| 06:04.00 | zls | you just buy low qnd sell high? |
| 06:04.01 | Xinhuan | only need like 50-60 of each gem and 2 bags full of enchanting mats |
| 06:04.05 | zls | 6 months or so |
| 06:04.06 | zls | 5-6 months |
| 06:04.08 | Xinhuan | i buy ore, prospect, cut, sell |
| 06:04.25 | Xinhuan | green quality ones, i convert to rings, DE, sell |
| 06:04.49 | Xinhuan | avg profit per day, 600-800g (about 100 stacks prospected a day) |
| 06:04.55 | Tekkub | welp, I just blew 400g on DE shit :) |
| 06:05.02 | Tekkub | you people damn well better be right |
| 06:05.03 | zls | what would you say the startup cost is? |
| 06:05.19 | Xinhuan | well, lets just say, since the start of patch 2.1, i have prospected 25750 times |
| 06:05.24 | Xinhuan | which is 25750*5 ore |
| 06:05.28 | Xinhuan | 128750 |
| 06:05.29 | Tekkub | I need to level mish up so I can crush ore too |
| 06:05.33 | Xinhuan | 6437.5 stacks |
| 06:05.46 | Tekkub | I make nice money with my DE deal finder :) |
| 06:05.53 | Xinhuan | you need about a 5000g startup cost to buy every design |
| 06:06.18 | Effah | Hmm.... |
| 06:06.30 | Xinhuan | also it varies from server to server |
| 06:06.46 | Xinhuan | on whether its profitable or not |
| 06:06.54 | harl|away | l8r |
| 06:07.15 | Effah | if I have this setup: myTable["user1"]=1 myTable["user2"]=5 myTable["user3"]=2 ... and I wanted to sort on the value, how would I accomplish that? |
| 06:07.17 | zls | I just need more willpower, I can make money reasonably well on an alt but i can't keep my hands out of his/her pockets |
| 06:07.25 | Tekkub | yea see I just DE and sell the mats... not sure if I want to cut gems |
| 06:07.36 | zls | how big is the tabble effah |
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| 06:07.40 | CIA-41 | SEasyRotation: |
| 06:07.40 | CIA-41 | = Add locale koKR |
| 06:07.44 | Xinhuan | effah, you can't |
| 06:07.47 | Effah | not big at all. I'd say 20 rows max |
| 06:07.58 | Effah | xin; Oh, boo. |
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| 06:08.08 | Xinhuan | the simple fact is that you are using "strings" as your table keys |
| 06:08.18 | Xinhuan | and these strings have no ordering meaning to lua |
| 06:08.33 | Xinhuan | pairs() will go thru them in some arbitruray order |
| 06:08.44 | zls | I thought you meant sort the values associated with the users so that user1 had the smallest value |
| 06:08.57 | Xinhuan | you will need to use a temporary table using numeric keys to sort them |
| 06:09.26 | Xinhuan | and once you sort that temporary table, you can then use that table to reference the original table |
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| 06:09.55 | Effah | ok, so create a temp table, then? Something like for n in pairs(myTable) do table.insert(temptable, n) end? |
| 06:10.39 | Xinhuan | you create a table, and each element in it is a table |
| 06:11.12 | Xinhuan | {{"user1", 1}, {"user2", 5}} |
| 06:11.19 | zls | Why do you want to sort on the value? |
| 06:11.36 | Xinhuan | you can then use table.sort on this table, giving it a custom sort function to sort a[2] < b[2] |
| 06:11.41 | Effah | zls: Technically it's a scores list that i would want to display in desc order. |
| 06:11.46 | Xinhuan | which is the value you want to sort by in each element |
| 06:11.56 | zls | descending by score? |
| 06:11.57 | Effah | Xin: Aaaah! Ok I get it now. nice. |
| 06:12.01 | Effah | zls: aye. |
| 06:12.19 | Xinhuan | so a[1] would refer to the name and a[2] would refer to the score |
| 06:12.22 | Xinhuan | you want to sort by the score |
| 06:12.31 | zls | that seems a little like overkill |
| 06:12.36 | Xinhuan | so once its sorted, say in descending order, your table might look like |
| 06:12.41 | Xinhuan | {{"user2", 5}, {"user1", 1}} |
| 06:12.49 | Xinhuan | and you can just use ipairs() on this table |
| 06:12.58 | zls | is ipairs faster thna pairs? |
| 06:13.02 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:13.04 | Effah | xin: Awesome. thanks. |
| 06:13.07 | Xinhuan | also don't use ipairs() |
| 06:13.12 | Xinhuan | use |
| 06:13.20 | Xinhuan | for i = 1 to #t do |
| 06:13.30 | zls | that's even faster?! |
| 06:13.32 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:13.34 | zls | i need to read these coding tips |
| 06:13.41 | Xinhuan | you avoid a ipairs() function call on every iteraction |
| 06:13.53 | Xinhuan | to obtain the next key.value pair |
| 06:14.15 | Xinhuan | so technically, ipairs() should never be used |
| 06:14.31 | Effah | Xin: nice tip, thanks. :) |
| 06:14.44 | Xinhuan | for i = 1, #t do local value = t[i] end |
| 06:14.54 | Xinhuan | and of course, the key is just "i" itself |
| 06:15.04 | NightHawkTheSane | the key is your mom. |
| 06:16.35 | Effah | speaking of #t ... Will that work on non-numeric keys? |
| 06:16.45 | Effah | err a table containing non-numeric keys, i mean |
| 06:16.51 | Xinhuan | no |
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| 06:16.55 | Xinhuan | that will only work on numeric tables |
| 06:17.07 | Xinhuan | for non-numeric, you must use pairs() |
| 06:17.15 | Effah | aha! ok. |
| 06:17.23 | Antiarc | Lua tables are a two-headed beast |
| 06:17.57 | Antiarc | You can have a table either be a list or a dictionary. Dictionaries have no size - #t for a dict is 0. Only lists have a size. |
| 06:17.58 | Xinhuan | you might want to revise the structure you are storing your data in your tables |
| 06:18.24 | Antiarc | So if you assign a value to a table by key (rather than by index) you convert it into a dict |
| 06:18.25 | Effah | Anti: good to know. |
| 06:18.36 | Xinhuan | note that when you use #t or ipairs(), etc, on a table, they only work on the numeric keys portion of a table |
| 06:18.41 | Antiarc | There's a page that explains it all nicely |
| 06:18.44 | Antiarc | Let me see if I can find it |
| 06:18.51 | Xinhuan | so you can always have a table that is numerically indexed, but you can throw extra data into that table |
| 06:19.00 | Xinhuan | such as t.name = "abc" |
| 06:19.01 | Effah | Only been woring ith Lua for a few days now, and i definitely know that once I've finished working on this, I'll be revisng my data structures once I've gotten the hang of the tables. :) |
| 06:19.04 | hyperChipmunk | uuuuuuse the PIL |
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| 06:19.19 | Xinhuan | and that extra t["name"] field won't affect your #t or ipairs() |
| 06:19.48 | hyperChipmunk | Effah: read PIL. Become knowledgeable. Fight off onrushing babes with nunchucks. |
| 06:19.57 | Effah | lol ok |
| 06:20.06 | hyperChipmunk | http://lua.org/pil |
| 06:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | it'll take maybe 2h from your life and make you infinitely the wiser |
| 06:21.33 | Effah | actually popped it up on my laptop just now. |
| 06:21.42 | Effah | Could make for some good bathroom readong befre bed. :) |
| 06:21.48 | Effah | err reading even |
| 06:22.41 | zls | ok thanks for the help |
| 06:29.50 | Effah | Well damn. |
| 06:29.53 | Effah | A common mistake for beginners is to confuse a.x with a[x]. |
| 06:30.00 | Kerafyrm | heh |
| 06:30.20 | Effah | Didn't even take 2h for me to become much wiser, Hyper. :) |
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| 06:32.37 | Aeyan | You just keep on trying till you run out of cake |
| 06:35.09 | kaiden | there is no cake |
| 06:35.11 | kaiden | i ate it all |
| 06:35.59 | Aeyan | No... |
| 06:36.01 | Aeyan | I believe in the cake. |
| 06:36.52 | CIA-41 | 03bigzero * r56160 10Mirror/ (Mirror.lua Mirror.xml): |
| 06:36.52 | CIA-41 | Mirror: |
| 06:36.52 | CIA-41 | - got rid of unnecessary hook |
| 06:37.03 | hyperChipmunk | Effah: >8) |
| 06:37.40 | Effah | the cake is a lie, we all know that |
| 06:38.06 | Aeyan | That was a lie |
| 06:39.15 | kaiden | Anyone know of an addon that can change the frame strata of ChatFrame1? |
| 06:40.09 | Xinhuan | /run ChatFrame1:SetStrata("HIGH") |
| 06:41.19 | kaiden | yup yup, i know how to do that, was just wondering if it was already built into any of the chatframe mods |
| 06:41.33 | kaiden | trying to figure out why sometimes when i ctrl click links it doesn't work :/ |
| 06:41.36 | Xinhuan | unlikely |
| 06:41.38 | Aeyan | Not that I know of |
| 06:43.58 | Xinhuan | there really isn't any plausible reason why the chatframe would need to have its strata changed |
| 06:47.07 | kaiden | i was thinking maybe there maybe some invisible frames sitting above the chatframe that could be causing the clicks to be missed |
| 06:47.19 | kaiden | or maybe the fact that the chatframe is sitting on top of 4 eePanels |
| 06:49.11 | kaiden | it has to be one of those two because when i move the chatframe away from those eePanels or that general area.. no clicks are missed at all and ctrl click on links works every single time |
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| 06:50.11 | Xinhuan | try /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 06:50.15 | Xinhuan | on those blind spots |
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| 07:02.56 | Xuerian | I figured out what my lag is =O |
| 07:02.59 | Xuerian | Button mashing :( |
| 07:03.24 | Xuerian | If I do the three-button bear-mash I lag to hell >_< |
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| 07:04.34 | kaiden | which bar mod are you using? |
| 07:04.39 | kaiden | i remember back in the day infinibar did that real bad |
| 07:05.13 | Xuerian | bongos actuallyl |
| 07:05.19 | Xuerian | Just started after 2.3 |
| 07:05.29 | kaiden | well make sure tuller checks it out as that's probably what it is |
| 07:05.57 | Xuerian | well I'm glad I figured it out at least |
| 07:06.02 | Xuerian | It was driving me nuts on ilhoof |
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| 07:12.37 | greppy | Xuerian: could this be related to the changes made in the way that the global cooldown is handled? |
| 07:12.46 | Xuerian | That's what I was thinking |
| 07:13.19 | greppy | ... and what is 'the three-button bear-mash'? |
| 07:13.21 | Xinhuan | maybe, but sounds unlikely |
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| 07:20.34 | Xuerian | Lacerate-Maul-Mangle-Swipe |
| 07:20.36 | Xuerian | four technically |
| 07:21.12 | greppy | Xuerian: ok, so do you hit all 4 at the same time, hoping for one to work? |
| 07:21.50 | Xuerian | Exactly |
| 07:22.13 | greppy | I thought I read in the forums that people were locking themselves out because of the GCD due to that right after 2.3 came out. |
| 07:22.44 | Xuerian | If you mean lag locked, yeah, I've locked solid for six seconds |
| 07:23.10 | grennon | do registered events get unregistered automagically now when you disable a mod or module? |
| 07:23.29 | greppy | Not sure if it was lag locked, but they were not able to do anything that used the GCD for a period of time. |
| 07:26.12 | grennon | does aceevent do an unregisterallevents when your mod or module gets disabled? |
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| 07:26.46 | Crysli | Heya |
| 07:26.47 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 07:26.55 | Ellipsis | that's in the documentation, grennon :P |
| 07:27.05 | grennon | in the pre-wipe documentation |
| 07:27.12 | grennon | weisenheimer |
| 07:27.51 | grennon | i need to bookmark that archive.org link to the documentation from may |
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| 07:33.24 | Crysli | Skinner has that turning your character with your mouse instead of the two buttons in the DressUpFrame. Anyone know if that's part of the default API? |
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| 07:38.36 | sedai| | why does pitbull raid windows lag my fps so badly? |
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| 07:40.23 | Diao | because it refreshes however many raid frames you have nonstop |
| 07:40.25 | Diao | for buffs etc |
| 07:40.25 | Industrial | sedai|: why do some dogs jump when they bark? |
| 07:40.36 | Fin | my dog has no nose |
| 07:40.39 | nevcairiel | Industrial: because they can? |
| 07:41.00 | Crysli | FIn: How does it smell then? :D |
| 07:41.04 | Fin | awful! |
| 07:41.05 | sedai| | does it lag anyone else? |
| 07:41.09 | Xinhuan | is that a trick question? |
| 07:41.16 | Fin | Crysli: thanks |
| 07:41.36 | Crysli | Fin: No problem. Was either this or doing school stuff. |
| 07:41.40 | sedai| | ive turned off most of the features like combat icon etc |
| 07:43.59 | Crysli | sedai: Me too. I stripped Pitbull down to very few modules. |
| 07:44.27 | Antiarc | http://i12.tinypic.com/6uenml0.jpg <-- I need an excuse to use this |
| 07:44.33 | Fin | Q: how did the constipated mathematician relieve himself? |
| 07:44.57 | Fin | A: he worked it out with a pencil |
| 07:45.17 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 07:45.18 | Crysli | Oh god |
| 07:45.23 | starlon | I'm sorry I tabbed over |
| 07:45.25 | Crysli | Too early for this |
| 07:45.28 | Ellipsis | DO NOT WANT |
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| 07:50.55 | ckknight | hilarious, Fin |
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| 07:51.38 | Fin | I'll be here all week, please try the veal |
| 07:53.18 | Crysli | THink I've got one |
| 07:54.30 | Orionshock | ug ... i hate the way automation works with gossip n' quests... |
| 07:54.55 | Crysli | What do you mean? |
| 07:55.29 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:56.03 | Crysli | Q: Why did little Billy make his password MinnieMickeyGoofyPluto? |
| 07:56.28 | Crysli | A: It had to contain at least four characters. |
| 07:56.34 | Crysli | Thank you all. |
| 07:57.14 | grennon | well, thats progress |
| 07:57.24 | grennon | i got all the postal modules to show up in Rock |
| 07:57.32 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 07:57.53 | grennon | oh hell, and it even populated the defaults correctly |
| 07:58.23 | NoLife3 | antiarc: its easy |
| 07:58.29 | NoLife3 | wait after 2.3.2 |
| 08:01.53 | grennon | well, i have postal showing up in rock config with each module toggleable |
| 08:02.02 | grennon | but i get errors when i try to toggle |
| 08:02.24 | grennon | Xinhuan: im hitting the hay tonight, maybe tomorrow ill have a fully working version |
| 08:02.33 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 08:02.39 | Xinhuan | what errors? |
| 08:03.08 | grennon | whenever i toggle anything it claims the second value is nil |
| 08:03.13 | grennon | e.g. set = function(v) Postal.db.char.DejaVu = v; Postal:ToggleModuleActive(DejaVu, v) end, |
| 08:03.21 | grennon | it claims the v is nil |
| 08:03.58 | grennon | im sure its something simple |
| 08:04.18 | grennon | the hard part was remembering to go back and add lines to enUS to get the code to load |
| 08:04.21 | grennon | heheh |
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| 08:05.33 | grennon | its my first round with an aceoptions based command line |
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| 08:08.30 | CIA-41 | 03orionshock * r56161 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Gossip.lua: |
| 08:08.30 | CIA-41 | Automaton: |
| 08:08.30 | CIA-41 | -Get[Active|Avail]Quests() now returns triplets, not pairs |
| 08:09.25 | Orionshock | why it returns a nil as it's 3rd arg is beyond me.... |
| 08:10.41 | Fin | I wish I wish I wish that either Quixote would get updated to work with MarsQuestOrganizer, MarsQuestOrganizer would be updated to work with Quixote, or there was another addon which had the same functionality as MarsQuestOrganizer and worked without bugging other mods |
| 08:11.02 | Fin | (MQO lets you assign arbitrary categories to quests) |
| 08:11.16 | Industrial | i wish i wish i wish eu realsm would be up right now so i dont have to wait til after school to get gaming |
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| 08:11.39 | Fin | (so you can move quests you picked up in Booty Bay for The Hinterlands to the category "The Hinterlands") |
| 08:11.42 | Fin | yeah, fuck, me too |
| 08:11.49 | Fin | minus the school bit |
| 08:14.19 | NoLife3 | fin: that sounds wrong |
| 08:14.24 | NoLife3 | the fuck me part |
| 08:15.31 | Fin | it's not mandatory |
| 08:15.33 | Fin | just a suggestion |
| 08:15.46 | Ellipsis | I'd pay to see that |
| 08:16.04 | Fin | well you're not sitting in for free! |
| 08:16.15 | thul | 1 hour 45 minutes :-( |
| 08:16.38 | Diao | ARGH |
| 08:16.41 | Diao | fuck blind :( |
| 08:16.51 | Diao | 1.5 min cd with no reagent and no way to break it except trinket is really gay |
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| 08:17.49 | Antiarc | Blind is freaking awesome |
| 08:18.12 | Antiarc | BoSac'll counter it nicely too |
| 08:19.04 | Gngsk | Diao, cry more imo |
| 08:19.22 | Diao | my pally was dead |
| 08:19.24 | Diao | their priest at 200 hp |
| 08:19.27 | Diao | my trinket on 27 sec cd |
| 08:19.29 | Diao | from first blind |
| 08:19.30 | Diao | rogue reblinds me |
| 08:19.31 | nevcairiel | Blind as poison was better imho, dispelling ftw |
| 08:19.36 | Diao | priest runs and drinks/heals |
| 08:19.38 | Diao | and we lose |
| 08:19.42 | Gngsk | nev, diaf druid |
| 08:19.44 | Diao | we would've won the match if that shit wasn't gay |
| 08:20.01 | nevcairiel | Gngsk: no thanks, i outheal your fire :P |
| 08:20.07 | Gngsk | play better before you get in that situation |
| 08:22.45 | CIA-41 | 03ackis * r56162 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 08:22.45 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 08:22.45 | CIA-41 | - fix for enchant ring stats |
| 08:23.18 | Antiarc | Blind as a poison sucked ass given its cooldown |
| 08:24.07 | Antiarc | 5 minutes untalented is a hell of a lot of a cooldown for a CC dispellable by a third of the classes, and counterable with a 3-minute cooldown by an entire race |
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| 08:24.18 | Antiarc | Or wait, I guess they moved it to 3 minutes a while back |
| 08:24.19 | Antiarc | Either way |
| 08:24.28 | Antiarc | Long-ass cooldown given how easy it was to counter |
| 08:24.31 | nevcairiel | how long does blind last now? |
| 08:24.34 | Antiarc | 10 sec |
| 08:24.40 | Antiarc | Diminishes with itself and cyclone |
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| 08:25.04 | nevcairiel | i suppose pvp insignia works? |
| 08:25.10 | Antiarc | yes |
| 08:25.11 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:25.16 | Antiarc | As do bubble/ice block/beast within |
| 08:25.19 | Diao | i burned my trinket on the first one |
| 08:25.21 | Diao | as a warrior |
| 08:25.26 | Diao | and had no counter to it the second time :( |
| 08:25.58 | Diao | i feel bad for dwarves who were used to using stoneform to counter it |
| 08:26.03 | Diao | can't even do that now |
| 08:26.37 | Antiarc | I'd be fine with it being a poison if it only cost energy and didn't have a cooldown like poly or fear. >_> |
| 08:27.20 | Adirelle | anyone lock to help me on this one ? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7015.msg161688#msg161688 |
| 08:27.52 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: there are different buffs for each pet |
| 08:28.37 | Adirelle | does anyone know their name ? (dunno how I'll cope with this spell :/) |
| 08:28.53 | Orionshock | te hell , why would Simple Minimap be fooking raid permote to MT? |
| 08:29.10 | Ellipsis | Burning Wish, Fel Stamina, Touch of Shadow, Fel Energy, and Touch of Shadow |
| 08:29.17 | Ellipsis | the two touch of shadows have the same name but different effects |
| 08:29.21 | Antiarc | Adirelle: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18788 |
| 08:29.25 | Antiarc | There's a list in the comments |
| 08:29.55 | Adirelle | Antiarc, oh, I overlooked it |
| 08:29.59 | Adirelle | thx |
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| 08:33.37 | Orionshock | bliz's raid frame , are they normal click2cast frames? |
| 08:34.12 | [Ammo] | clique adds them to the clickcastframes hash |
| 08:34.16 | [Ammo] | so it works with clique at least |
| 08:34.25 | Orionshock | what |
| 08:34.31 | Orionshock | what's the table called? |
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| 08:34.47 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.34 | [Ammo] | ClickCastFrames afaik |
| 08:35.35 | [Ammo] | but read the code |
| 08:35.59 | Orionshock | :( |
| 08:36.01 | Orionshock | empty table |
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| 08:36.24 | [Ammo] | well you need to fill it yourself / have an addon that does it |
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| 08:36.28 | [Ammo] | like clique or click2cast |
| 08:36.37 | [Ammo] | and the unitframe addons fill it as well |
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| 08:37.11 | needhelp | Hi! I need your help. Iam collecting points in page listed below. If you be so kind, please click url below. http://www.3dwhite.lt/?click=56a3cdcf22ccc7ab5f0a7f4d2bc900ff |
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| 08:38.51 | NoLife3 | lol |
| 08:38.58 | thul | wtf. |
| 08:39.21 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 08:39.21 | NoLife3 | what a tard :\ |
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| 08:39.57 | NoLife3 | oops |
| 08:39.57 | Xinhuan | sounds like keylogger |
| 08:39.57 | NoLife3 | someone pulled the plug |
| 08:39.57 | NoLife3 | hmm |
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| 08:40.12 | Fin | le table |
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| 08:48.04 | Ellipsis | stranger danger! |
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| 08:48.15 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 08:48.20 | thul | hmm. |
| 08:48.27 | thul | weird people. |
| 08:48.27 | Ellipsis | moar pls? |
| 08:48.33 | thul | can't the clock be 11:00 |
| 08:48.34 | thul | :-( |
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| 08:51.35 | Lukian | Xinhuan, how goes BankItems? :D |
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| 09:21.05 | Xinhuan | still busy making gold nonstop |
| 09:21.13 | Xinhuan | so far 13k gold revenue in 12 hours |
| 09:21.59 | Fin | how? |
| 09:22.14 | thul | farming primal manas? :-P |
| 09:22.22 | Xinhuan | unload stockpile, major reselling, buy ore prospect cut gem, sell gems |
| 09:22.33 | Xinhuan | cut a ton of epic gems and rare gems, and cast a hell lot of enchants |
| 09:22.40 | Xinhuan | i haven't stopped cutting gems/enchants for 12 hours |
| 09:23.01 | Fin | cool |
| 09:23.09 | thul | or not so cool :-P |
| 09:23.10 | [Ammo] | S3 ftw eh |
| 09:23.36 | thul | I'm ready for honor-s1 :-P |
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| 09:29.08 | Orionshock | ok is it me or did blizz make the mobs tougher this patch... tougher like tough meet.... |
| 09:29.22 | Ellipsis | it's you |
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| 09:31.58 | thul | YOU YOU YOU |
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| 09:46.07 | thul | extended weekly.. :-( |
| 09:46.08 | thul | :-D |
| 09:46.09 | thul | :-( |
| 09:47.09 | DreadWingKnight | US realms are done |
| 09:47.58 | DreadWingKnight | although they did mess up with arena titling |
| 09:48.12 | V1c1ous | Of course :) |
| 09:48.27 | DreadWingKnight | wouldn't be a maintainence tuesday if they didn't mess SOMETHING up |
| 09:48.45 | V1c1ous | Is how we know and love them, though :) |
| 09:49.09 | CIA-41 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r732 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (4 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - Still more ally plaguelands |
| 09:49.17 | NoLife3 | We will be bringing all realms down for urgent maintenance beginning at 5:00 AM PST until approximately 6:00 AM PST. This maintenance will apply the correct Season 2 Arena titles and send out the new Season 2 Nether Drakes |
| 09:49.21 | NoLife3 | hehe |
| 09:49.29 | V1c1ous | :p |
| 09:49.47 | V1c1ous | EU servers are still down |
| 09:50.06 | NoLife3 | In order to resolve a technical issue we need to extend the Weekly Maintenance. We currently expect to have all realms back online by 12:00 Paris time (CET). |
| 09:50.08 | NoLife3 | yep :P |
| 09:50.27 | NoLife3 | you gotta love technical issues |
| 09:50.40 | V1c1ous | Oh, but for crying out loud :p |
| 09:51.14 | Ellipsis | they're taking US down again though |
| 09:51.23 | Ellipsis | so we can all suffer together |
| 09:52.55 | thul | NoLife3: [10:46:00] < thul> extended weekly.. :-( |
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| 09:52.57 | thul | I suffer. |
| 09:53.18 | thul | you know what I do instead of playing with my new shiny weapons now? I READ COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE LAW |
| 09:53.26 | thul | do you have any idea how boring that is? :-P |
| 09:53.35 | NoLife3 | shiny weapons? |
| 09:53.37 | V1c1ous | If it's as boring as it sounds, then yeah |
| 09:53.47 | NoLife3 | where do you get shiny weapons? |
| 09:53.59 | thul | NoLife3: arena season 1 vendor |
| 09:53.59 | thul | ofc. |
| 09:54.10 | V1c1ous | And fyi, weapons shouldn't be shiny, they should be splattered with n0meblood. |
| 09:55.03 | thul | (tbh, law IS interesting, just not when I have my mind set on trying new specs :-P ) |
| 09:55.05 | NoLife3 | i dont do arena thul |
| 09:55.15 | NoLife3 | so i cant have shiny weapons :( |
| 09:56.12 | V1c1ous | More of a pve kinda fella? |
| 09:56.21 | Orionshock | NoLife3: is that PST or PDT? |
| 09:56.35 | NoLife3 | it says PST :) |
| 09:56.41 | NoLife3 | if im reading it correctly |
| 09:56.51 | thul | NoLife3: you don't need arena :-P |
| 09:57.00 | thul | you can do normal bgs, and get arena weapons for honor :-D |
| 09:57.03 | thul | (Season 1 that is ) |
| 09:57.07 | NoLife3 | v1c1ious: yeah and i have 65k honor to spend |
| 09:57.27 | NoLife3 | but im just getting it for the fun of saying i have arena gear |
| 09:57.29 | V1c1ous | Must have been awfully painful to get that :p |
| 09:57.43 | NoLife3 | not really guild premades for wsg and ab |
| 09:57.48 | NoLife3 | some av weekends |
| 09:58.10 | NoLife3 | my battlegroup is not really hard when it comes to pvp |
| 09:58.33 | V1c1ous | Been told mine is, but don't really know to be honest. |
| 09:58.38 | thul | i got 40k honor the last 2 weeks. |
| 09:58.47 | thul | and I'm a slacker, at least |
| 09:58.48 | thul | :-P |
| 09:59.06 | NoLife3 | but i keep saying to myself that i dont need pvp gear for pvp |
| 09:59.16 | NoLife3 | pve gear is fine but against warriors its not the case |
| 09:59.21 | NoLife3 | im too squishy |
| 09:59.26 | DreadWingKnight | armory's still fucked though |
| 09:59.30 | CIA-41 | 03scorpio0920 * r56163 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData-zhTW.lua: |
| 09:59.30 | CIA-41 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 09:59.30 | CIA-41 | Update zhTW translation. |
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| 10:00.00 | V1c1ous | I'm a healer, personally I hate pvp gear :) |
| 10:00.23 | DreadWingKnight | so you hate taking smaller amounts of damage from crits and taking fewer crits V1c1ous? |
| 10:00.32 | V1c1ous | Bubble <3 |
| 10:00.51 | V1c1ous | And taking damage is not my main concern, restoring hitpoints is :p |
| 10:01.08 | DreadWingKnight | tank dies |
| 10:01.16 | DreadWingKnight | *main tank |
| 10:01.21 | DreadWingKnight | you're next on the threat meter |
| 10:01.25 | V1c1ous | He does if I'm healing in pvp gear :p |
| 10:01.29 | DreadWingKnight | offtank needs extra seconds |
| 10:01.43 | V1c1ous | And we were talking pvp, not pve. Tanks? :p |
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| 10:01.56 | DreadWingKnight | pvp gear isn't useless in pve |
| 10:02.00 | greppy | Anyone can tank. The question is, "How long?" |
| 10:02.27 | V1c1ous | pvp gear blows in pve content |
| 10:02.31 | V1c1ous | For a healer, anyway |
| 10:02.53 | NoLife3 | dreadwingknight: it is crap |
| 10:02.55 | Lukian | any recommendation on shot rotation addons for the learning hunter? |
| 10:03.03 | NoLife3 | resilience is not needed in pve for anything |
| 10:03.08 | NoLife3 | so its a wasted stat |
| 10:03.14 | DreadWingKnight | NoLife3: did you actually READ what resilience does? |
| 10:03.40 | NoLife3 | lukian: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t15179-hunter_help_me_please/ |
| 10:03.48 | V1c1ous | I have 8k hp as a healer, that's plenty for anything, pretty much. And should I lack some at certain fights, there's pots and other ways to fix that. |
| 10:03.50 | nevcairiel | our illidan p2 tanks use resilience on their fire resist gear because it gives them more then defense |
| 10:03.53 | NoLife3 | deadwingknight: no i didnt enlighten me please |
| 10:04.07 | DreadWingKnight | % reduction in crits taken |
| 10:04.16 | NoLife3 | oh i must have missed that |
| 10:04.16 | DreadWingKnight | % reduction in damage taken from crits you do take |
| 10:04.31 | Lukian | NoLife3, reading that now, wondering if there's any addons to help me out |
| 10:04.36 | NoLife3 | seriously ill say it again resilience is a wasted stat in pve |
| 10:04.39 | Lukian | specifically with auto-shot timing |
| 10:04.42 | V1c1ous | Necairiel: Resistance gear is different :) |
| 10:05.05 | DreadWingKnight | % reduction in damage from dots (not as useful in pve, but not completely useless) |
| 10:05.07 | NoLife3 | lukian: hunter is already an easy class dont make it even easier with addons |
| 10:05.09 | NoLife3 | :) |
| 10:05.16 | Lukian | NoLife3, haha |
| 10:06.19 | NoLife3 | i am sure in that thread there is info about timing shots |
| 10:07.04 | thul | I'm still not sure about maces vs. swords for pve/pvp hemo-mix |
| 10:07.12 | thul | resilience is nice for tanks in pve, but not many others...? |
| 10:07.21 | thul | a rogue shoudln't get hit by a boss anyway.. :-P |
| 10:07.31 | NoLife3 | well |
| 10:07.36 | NoLife3 | lukian: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t13107-hunter_shot_rotation_illustrated/ |
| 10:07.51 | Lukian | I'm reading that |
| 10:07.59 | NoLife3 | thul: im hemo swords |
| 10:08.00 | greppy | thul: I had a rogue class rep that insisted he could tank in MC, even though we had the history to prove that he could not. |
| 10:08.31 | V1c1ous | If a rogue gets hits by a boss it hardly matters how much resilience he's got, he'll probably die anyway :p |
| 10:08.33 | greppy | ... he then could not understand why the rogues would not listen to him when he said not to pull agro. |
| 10:09.35 | thul | greppy: hmmm... :-P |
| 10:10.10 | thul | NoLife3: mhm, that is my plan too.. but I just like the top-end damage on the s2 mace and fist :-P the average damage is the same, but the top end is so shiny and sexy |
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| 10:10.21 | NoLife3 | thul: thats my spec |
| 10:10.27 | NoLife3 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboZbIVooVzxzZxMgokhMo |
| 10:10.54 | thul | quite similar to mine, I have two points in kick + i have prep |
| 10:10.58 | thul | but other than that, just the same |
| 10:11.18 | NoLife3 | i dont think prep is so needed in pve |
| 10:11.27 | NoLife3 | but for pvp its a must :) |
| 10:11.32 | thul | well, I like it. |
| 10:11.32 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:11.33 | thul | :-) |
| 10:11.34 | Diao | anyone know what to do |
| 10:11.46 | Diao | as ms war/hpally/disc priest vs standard dru/lock/war? |
| 10:11.47 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve <- NoLife3 |
| 10:11.58 | NoLife3 | i dont know what to drop to get prep |
| 10:12.05 | thul | NoLife3: expertice? :-P |
| 10:12.18 | NoLife3 | hmm its a good stat :) |
| 10:12.27 | NoLife3 | armory is down thul :P |
| 10:12.28 | thul | I had expertice earlier on, but changed it with dirty deeds now |
| 10:12.30 | thul | hmm |
| 10:12.32 | thul | works here NoLife3 |
| 10:12.33 | Diao | can't seem to figure out what to kill on that setup |
| 10:12.50 | thul | Diao: kill lock |
| 10:12.52 | V1c1ous | Warlock, diao |
| 10:12.57 | Diao | i went after lock |
| 10:13.00 | thul | hehe |
| 10:13.02 | Diao | and druid went |
| 10:13.10 | Diao | cyclone x3, roots me, feral charge, bash, recyclone |
| 10:13.14 | Diao | and i couldn't do anything :( |
| 10:13.14 | thul | I need like 120 more +hit |
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| 10:14.39 | NoLife3 | drop those 2 point in initiative and get 1 point in elusiveness and setup |
| 10:14.44 | NoLife3 | :) |
| 10:15.57 | NoLife3 | thats my noob rogue http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alonsus&n=Facktotum |
| 10:16.48 | Tekkub | someone motivate me to move TourGuide off SVN onto git damnit |
| 10:16.50 | thul | i don't like iniative :-P |
| 10:16.58 | thul | not setup either :-P |
| 10:17.41 | thul | I kind of want to do mutilate again too... but cba |
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| 10:19.11 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebovMswdVohxV0bV <- something like that for arena |
| 10:19.18 | thul | but as i said, cba. Too much respeccing :-P |
| 10:20.10 | NoLife3 | tekkub: what is tourguide? |
| 10:20.25 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TourGuide |
| 10:20.59 | NoLife3 | oh |
| 10:21.07 | thul | i feel that it is unfinnished for horde :-P |
| 10:24.00 | greppy | grrrr |
| 10:24.16 | greppy | why when I search wowace.com for 'trinket' do I get results for wowwiki?! |
| 10:25.16 | NoLife3 | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=trinket |
| 10:25.21 | NoLife3 | oops |
| 10:25.50 | NoLife3 | i think thats the case greppy |
| 10:26.30 | greppy | If I wanted to search wowwiki I would go there and search ;P |
| 10:27.14 | Ellipsis | greppy, go to google.com and search "site:wowace.com search terms here" |
| 10:27.18 | Ellipsis | profit :) |
| 10:27.27 | Tekkub | was about to say tah |
| 10:27.30 | Tekkub | *that |
| 10:27.36 | thul | or: |
| 10:27.41 | thul | www.justfuckinggoogleit.com |
| 10:27.59 | Adirelle | any aware of an ICU-like addon in ace ? |
| 10:28.15 | Fin | MyAceICU |
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| 10:28.26 | greppy | Ellipsis: the funny thing is that the search on wowace.com is powered by google. |
| 10:28.54 | Fin | hmm, "greppy" |
| 10:28.59 | neenee | Hm. European servers still offline. |
| 10:29.07 | V1c1ous | Aye -..- |
| 10:29.10 | Fin | neenee: 12 noon |
| 10:29.14 | Adirelle | Fin, is it in the SVN repo ? can't find it on files.wowace.com |
| 10:29.27 | neenee | But it said Paris time |
| 10:29.29 | Ellipsis | greppy: yes, it's a customized search which is set to search both wowace and wowwiki |
| 10:29.32 | neenee | And that's the same as where I am. |
| 10:29.54 | Fin | oh, sorry Adirelle, I was er just making up a stereotypical addon name, not being serious |
| 10:30.05 | Adirelle | that missed an smiley |
| 10:30.06 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 10:30.09 | Fin | 12 noon paris time |
| 10:30.21 | Fin | same here |
| 10:30.26 | Fin | well, it's 11:30am here |
| 10:30.33 | Fin | which is paris time |
| 10:30.36 | markt__ | sucky sucky suck |
| 10:30.46 | markt__ | gief EU servers! |
| 10:30.53 | neenee | But it said 11 Paris time. |
| 10:30.56 | neenee | not 12 |
| 10:31.08 | greppy | Which Paris? |
| 10:31.13 | Fin | hilton |
| 10:31.19 | markt__ | yes, they are off until ~12:00 paris time |
| 10:31.44 | neenee | Ah well. |
| 10:31.51 | markt__ | "In order to resolve a technical issue we need to extend the Weekly Maintenance. We currently expect to have all realms back online by 12:00 Parise time (CET)."Â |
| 10:31.53 | V1c1ous | Extended <3 |
| 10:32.07 | neenee | I think the in-game mentioned 11 though |
| 10:32.14 | neenee | But I might be wrong afterall :) |
| 10:32.16 | markt__ | yeah, well, 11 is standard |
| 10:32.18 | thul | old |
| 10:32.28 | markt__ | but they have obv. had an unexpected problem |
| 10:32.38 | greppy | Fin: I thought that Paris was 'down' all the time? |
| 10:32.42 | neenee | I didn't mean standard, I meant 'I saw it on the notice in-game about half an hour ago' |
| 10:32.54 | Adirelle | gah, ICU 2.0 makes gazillion things I don't need :/ |
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| 10:33.01 | thul | what is icu? :-P |
| 10:33.13 | markt__ | neenee: if you read the second section, it still says 11am as that is the notice from yesterday |
| 10:33.27 | Adirelle | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3545 |
| 10:33.32 | SP|Sorren | there's an icu 2.0? |
| 10:33.51 | neenee | markt__: Hm. It might have been that then. |
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| 10:34.32 | Adirelle | sorren : it seems so, last updated 11/01/07 |
| 10:35.03 | thul | hmm |
| 10:35.05 | thul | i dislike druids |
| 10:35.17 | Codayus | Trying to clear out our guild bank a bit. Do Core Armor Kits have *ANY* value except to a vendor? Anyone know? :-( |
| 10:35.32 | nevcairiel | i think there are better armor kits already |
| 10:35.38 | Adirelle | btw, I just need something that save me the time of typing "/target SomeNameISeeOnMyMinimap" |
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| 10:35.42 | Gianpiero88 | ciao |
| 10:35.45 | Gianpiero88 | !list |
| 10:35.50 | Ellipsis | ...fail |
| 10:36.01 | Codayus | nevcairiel: Yeah, but they *DO* require lvl 60+ gear or something, so ummm. Twinks... |
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| 10:36.10 | Codayus | ...wait, a twink stacking def? Right... |
| 10:36.17 | nevcairiel | screw the core armor kits |
| 10:36.38 | Codayus | Yep. :-/ |
| 10:39.57 | CIA-41 | 03celellach * r56164 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 10:39.58 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 10:39.58 | CIA-41 | - Replaced most Veteran items with Vindicator items |
| 10:45.04 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebRxZGcVbrVzxMuot <- i suspect that a build like that would give me more raw dps than hemo.. |
| 10:49.06 | Antiarc | Women are warlocks. Seduce => Siphon Life => Seduce => Soul Link => Drain Life => Fear => Fear => Curse of Agony => Dead. |
| 10:50.27 | thul | hmm |
| 10:50.39 | thul | does setup work with CloS? |
| 10:50.43 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 10:51.01 | Antiarc | I was combat swords forever, am trispec hemo now, and find that hemo slightly outperforms my old combat swords build |
| 10:52.04 | thul | same here |
| 10:52.23 | markt__ | LOL Antiarc |
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| 10:53.56 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: I resemble that remark! |
| 10:53.59 | Ellipsis | ...oh, wait |
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| 10:55.15 | Orionshock | ... |
| 10:55.21 | nevcairiel | one of our rogues tried hemo with 2.3, he wasnt happy and specced back last week |
| 10:55.40 | Orionshock | Antiarc: you might want to add a Curse of Exhaustion between the Fears |
| 10:55.42 | thul | I have gotten increased dps with hemo compared to combat daggers, and that with pretty much inferior hemo gear. |
| 10:55.44 | Antiarc | Haha |
| 10:55.50 | thul | but I'll test more seriously with better gear tomorrow |
| 10:57.34 | Adirelle | dewdrop wiki page has been lost, it seems it could handle secure things |
| 10:59.58 | thul | i feel that I'll not be online by 12:00 |
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| 11:05.24 | thul | 12:03 and no wow? :-( |
| 11:05.26 | thul | wtf:( |
| 11:07.19 | markt__ | doubt it'll be back for a bit yet |
| 11:08.14 | thul | :-( |
| 11:08.16 | thul | I WANT MY WOW |
| 11:09.47 | thul | hehe |
| 11:11.19 | markt__ | [Gutterspeak] An ne algos, an ne algos, An ne algos gloin odes |
| 11:11.36 | markt__ | (yes, i really am bored ;)) |
| 11:11.57 | thul | is there any nice translation addons for wow? :-P |
| 11:12.17 | Orionshock | thul: explicitly denyed |
| 11:12.23 | thul | :-( |
| 11:12.25 | NoLife3 | i just spent $100 for the a-team dvd's :\ |
| 11:12.28 | markt__ | there is no way to translate |
| 11:12.46 | markt__ | the ones which will get your account banned need to be used on both sides and use, for eg. morse code to allow inter-faction communication |
| 11:13.15 | Orionshock | i guess you could do that... |
| 11:13.31 | Orionshock | slow as ass and spammy |
| 11:13.47 | markt__ | yeah, and totally breaching the ToS |
| 11:14.01 | thul | or, just hangout at the realm irc-chan |
| 11:14.02 | thul | :-P |
| 11:14.12 | markt__ | yeah, that seems like a better plan :) |
| 11:14.18 | vrak | extended maint. ftl :( |
| 11:15.16 | markt__ | the in-game "translations" are just word-length mapped |
| 11:15.34 | NoLife3 | i need a new mouse mat any suggestions? |
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| 11:15.43 | markt__ | ie. there are a set number of "gutterspeak" 2-letter, 3-letter, ..., 12-letter words |
| 11:15.55 | markt__ | NoLife3: buy an optical mouse? ;) |
| 11:16.25 | NoLife3 | i have an optical mouse |
| 11:16.28 | NoLife3 | mx1000 |
| 11:16.35 | thul | http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/11/28/519557.html < for those who reads norse |
| 11:16.59 | thul | bah, till 13 now?! |
| 11:17.01 | thul | ffs |
| 11:17.05 | thul | get a grip blizzard :-( |
| 11:17.14 | vrak | mhm |
| 11:18.46 | Orionshock | LOL Antiarc i got one for ya to add to your own, |
| 11:18.58 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:19.00 | neenee | Hm. I was hoping 2.3.1/2 would be coming out. |
| 11:19.27 | NoLife3 | neenee: are you a mage? |
| 11:19.28 | thul | I'll never understand females. |
| 11:20.00 | thul | I have learned a few things: if you say something wrong and she gets mad: it's your fault and you should be sorry.. if SHE says something wrong and you get mad: it's still your fault and you should be sorry. |
| 11:20.01 | Ellipsis | oh, and don't forget they usually get lost going from point A to point B :) |
| 11:20.18 | NoLife3 | im gonna be rich today |
| 11:20.32 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 11:20.33 | NoLife3 | prismatic shards on us servers are going for 35g lol |
| 11:20.38 | sag_ich_nicht | /pounce Ellipsis |
| 11:20.43 | NoLife3 | i have like 60 in the bank |
| 11:20.53 | thul | the second thing I learned was that girls want you to be macho and hard AND soft and pushy at the same time. |
| 11:21.00 | thul | hard life :-( |
| 11:21.29 | NoLife3 | thul: girls are overrated |
| 11:21.56 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 11:22.02 | greppy | thul: this is news? If you ever discover by some miracle that you are right, apologize immediately. |
| 11:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | girls overrate themself |
| 11:22.06 | sag_ich_nicht | and men underrate them |
| 11:22.09 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 11:22.22 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 11:22.25 | Diao | fuck |
| 11:22.29 | Diao | can't beat rogue mage priest |
| 11:22.36 | Diao | it's practically impossible |
| 11:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 11:23.19 | Diao | seriously |
| 11:23.24 | Diao | wtf do you do against that team :( |
| 11:23.31 | sag_ich_nicht | theoretically, there should be 9 specs that pwn you, 9 that you get a draw against, and 9 that pwn you |
| 11:24.00 | NoLife3 | diao: what is your setup? |
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| 11:26.01 | thul | greppy: know the feeling |
| 11:26.46 | V1c1ous | hehe. That's 9 that owns you, and 9 you'd draw against. Wts skills :p |
| 11:26.54 | V1c1ous | No, 18 that owns you |
| 11:27.00 | Diao | priest pally wrarior |
| 11:27.08 | Diao | disc priest, holy pally, ms warr to be exact |
| 11:27.16 | Diao | no matter what we do we get raped |
| 11:27.26 | sag_ich_nicht | woho |
| 11:27.29 | V1c1ous | What's your rating at? |
| 11:27.31 | sag_ich_nicht | we're getting the ICO sourcecode! |
| 11:27.32 | sag_ich_nicht | http://astrange.ithinksw.net/ico/ |
| 11:27.32 | Diao | fucking op comp |
| 11:27.35 | Diao | 1650 atm |
| 11:27.41 | Diao | but we're fighting gladiator teams |
| 11:27.45 | V1c1ous | Lack of resilience, then |
| 11:27.45 | Diao | so they were formerly 2300+ |
| 11:27.47 | Diao | no |
| 11:27.48 | V1c1ous | Probably |
| 11:27.49 | Diao | i have 3 piece s3 |
| 11:27.51 | Diao | 2 piece s2 |
| 11:27.56 | Diao | s2 offhand and pvp trink |
| 11:27.58 | Diao | 341 resil |
| 11:28.01 | V1c1ous | hmm |
| 11:28.03 | Diao | our pally has 302 |
| 11:28.07 | Diao | and our priest has 481 |
| 11:28.10 | Diao | we have no lack of resil |
| 11:28.11 | V1c1ous | Oh |
| 11:28.15 | Diao | we were formerly a 2k rated team |
| 11:28.20 | Diao | but now we can't fight these fucking 2300+ |
| 11:28.22 | V1c1ous | What went wrong? |
| 11:28.24 | Diao | cause PMR is op as hell |
| 11:28.28 | Diao | i get on the priest |
| 11:28.30 | Diao | mage/rogue jump me |
| 11:28.33 | Diao | so i swap to sword/shield |
| 11:28.47 | Diao | spellreflect/tclap/demo shout/disarm |
| 11:28.49 | NoLife3 | its your team setup the problem |
| 11:28.52 | Diao | our priest mana burns their priest |
| 11:29.00 | NoLife3 | they have more cc to begin with |
| 11:29.01 | Diao | pally is healing |
| 11:29.07 | Diao | well |
| 11:29.13 | Diao | warrior teams have no way to beat that team without a druid then? |
| 11:29.19 | NoLife3 | you have too much healing unless your priest is shadow |
| 11:29.21 | Diao | cause only way i can see us beating them is cyclone the rogue |
| 11:29.22 | V1c1ous | Are you chainfearing? |
| 11:29.28 | Diao | as much as we can |
| 11:29.35 | Diao | we need 2 healers |
| 11:29.38 | NoLife3 | so either nuke the priest |
| 11:29.46 | Diao | to survive the burst from ar/prep and frost |
| 11:29.48 | NoLife3 | while you chain fear the mage or rogue |
| 11:30.01 | NoLife3 | or nuke the rogue |
| 11:30.28 | Diao | uh |
| 11:30.30 | thul | rogue ftw. |
| 11:30.31 | Diao | we have 2 fears |
| 11:30.35 | Diao | and rogues are fucking op as hell |
| 11:30.36 | Diao | :( |
| 11:31.02 | V1c1ous | Instead of trying to survive, you should minimize their burst |
| 11:31.19 | V1c1ous | Through cc :) |
| 11:31.34 | Diao | we already fear through the cooldown burst |
| 11:31.36 | Diao | but |
| 11:31.41 | Diao | it tends to be UD we play against |
| 11:31.43 | Diao | which really fucks us |
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| 11:31.54 | thul | rogues op? :-P |
| 11:32.02 | Diao | the whole point is |
| 11:32.04 | Diao | if we survive their cds |
| 11:32.06 | Diao | we should be able to beat them |
| 11:32.11 | Diao | but even after they burn all their cds |
| 11:32.14 | Diao | we still can't beat it |
| 11:32.26 | Diao | they just have too much sustained |
| 11:32.28 | Diao | even after all their cd |
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| 11:34.31 | NoLife3 | well they only have 1 healer you have 2 |
| 11:34.38 | NoLife3 | you can mana burn their priest |
| 11:35.04 | NoLife3 | its about finding a good tactic against teams like that |
| 11:36.32 | Diao | we did |
| 11:36.36 | Diao | mana burn their priest |
| 11:36.37 | Diao | problem is |
| 11:36.43 | Diao | our priest spends half teh time healing me from teh burst |
| 11:36.51 | Diao | or sometimes they go after our priest and there's nothing we can do to save him |
| 11:37.07 | NoLife3 | imho your team setup is squishy |
| 11:37.22 | NoLife3 | you just rely on your warrior and priest fear for cc |
| 11:37.27 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it, all european servers still down -.- |
| 11:37.29 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:37.37 | Diao | but |
| 11:37.37 | NoLife3 | otherwise its plain sailing for the other team setups |
| 11:37.42 | Diao | yep |
| 11:37.45 | Diao | we can beat pretty much every other setup |
| 11:38.08 | Diao | just RMP which is the most common now |
| 11:38.10 | Diao | we can't :( |
| 11:38.13 | NoLife3 | so get another person in the team |
| 11:38.17 | NoLife3 | rogue or warlock :) |
| 11:38.28 | NoLife3 | and play with him for a while until you beat this rating |
| 11:38.35 | thul | rogue |
| 11:38.37 | thul | :-P |
| 11:38.39 | thul | :-D |
| 11:38.47 | NoLife3 | warrior,rogue,pala should be fine |
| 11:38.49 | thul | I kind of want to get a nice newbie/slacker arena team |
| 11:38.55 | NoLife3 | you can burst there priest easier |
| 11:39.40 | neenee | Ah, lovely. They postponed it with another hour. |
| 11:39.51 | thul | 14 now?! |
| 11:40.09 | neenee | no, still 1pm |
| 11:40.11 | thul | ah, still 13 |
| 11:40.11 | Ellipsis | you didn't think you were paying them to actually let you play, did you? |
| 11:40.23 | thul | (you guys have to learn to use 1-24 hour clock) |
| 11:40.37 | neenee | I can use 24-hour time, but I prefer am and pm. |
| 11:40.47 | thul | nooooo |
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| 11:40.51 | neenee | I live in Holland, we use 24 hour time there. |
| 11:40.56 | thul | Ellipsis: well, I pay them to fix vanish, that doesen't happen either |
| 11:40.57 | thul | :-( |
| 11:41.02 | Diao | well |
| 11:41.04 | Ellipsis | bigger bribe imo |
| 11:41.08 | Diao | we figured out how to destroy rogue/mage/spri |
| 11:41.14 | Diao | now to figure out how to beat rogue/mage/disc pri |
| 11:41.18 | neenee | Do enough damage to them, and they die. |
| 11:41.21 | Diao | well |
| 11:41.23 | Diao | we mitigated |
| 11:41.25 | Diao | enough |
| 11:42.03 | NoLife3 | thul: vanish is fine l2p |
| 11:42.51 | Orionshock | NoLife3: no vanish is OP |
| 11:43.08 | Orionshock | give it to druids or remove from game |
| 11:43.14 | thul | NoLife3: vanish isn't vine |
| 11:43.16 | thul | fine |
| 11:43.26 | thul | and "l2p" is a fucking retarded statement |
| 11:43.28 | NoLife3 | its not? |
| 11:43.31 | thul | no, its not |
| 11:43.53 | NoLife3 | well i am a rogue remember? |
| 11:43.57 | thul | Allows the rogue to vanish from sight, entering an improved stealth mode for 10 sec. Also breaks movement impairing effects. All aggro'd mobs on Rogue will exit combat phase and return to their original locations or turn to other players if the rogue is in a party. Any damage done (including active DoTs, fall damage, campfires and braziers) will make the rogue visible. |
| 11:44.15 | NoLife3 | yeah and its useless qqing :) |
| 11:44.20 | NoLife3 | they will never fix it |
| 11:44.30 | thul | "they will never fix it" implies that it isn't fine |
| 11:44.31 | thul | so.. |
| 11:44.41 | thul | you are not only a kid using statements like "l2p" |
| 11:44.47 | thul | you are also self contradictory |
| 11:44.48 | thul | I won, you fail |
| 11:44.51 | nevcairiel | what part of that doesnt work anyway? |
| 11:44.57 | NoLife3 | sarcasm? |
| 11:44.59 | thul | nevcairiel: aggro-reset |
| 11:45.02 | Fin | ooh! a fight! yeah! |
| 11:45.32 | nevcairiel | personally, i havent seen rogues die in raids because their aggro didnt reset on vanish |
| 11:46.04 | NoLife3 | vanish is fine in raids to reset aggro |
| 11:46.07 | Corgan | http://www.isketch.net/isketch.shtml => 'Yes Servers Are Down' |
| 11:46.09 | thul | from blue post: |
| 11:46.11 | thul | "he circumstances in which Vanish will break from attacks is a matter of timing that is difficult to reproduce and isolate in terms of actual coding. The last word I have from some of the programmers is that it this mechanic will not work 100% at the time and we will continue to push the status of the bug to future patches, which means we are aware of it until something arises that can shed new light on a complete solution." |
| 11:46.12 | Orionshock | vanish is fine - the rest of the class is fooked |
| 11:46.14 | NoLife3 | sometimes its fine to survive from a wipe |
| 11:46.30 | thul | nevcairiel: I vanished, prepped and re-vanished in ZA without resetting aggro. |
| 11:46.38 | Orionshock | rogues have like 4 abilitys that are on 2mins CD's it's as if you can't kill them |
| 11:46.40 | thul | (on un-stealth detecting mobs) |
| 11:46.42 | thul | :-( |
| 11:47.12 | thul | and when people keep auto attacking you out of stealth after you vanish, it is kind of useless |
| 11:47.13 | nevcairiel | maybe you were too close to their original position? you know, stealth isnt invisible :) |
| 11:47.14 | NoLife3 | orionshock: we lack mobility |
| 11:47.25 | Orionshock | um ... i call bull shit |
| 11:47.26 | thul | nevcairiel: yeah, 40-50 yards away |
| 11:47.27 | Orionshock | sprint? |
| 11:47.28 | thul | is.. close. |
| 11:47.33 | NoLife3 | sprint is 5min cd |
| 11:47.36 | NoLife3 | next |
| 11:47.40 | Orionshock | & ur point? |
| 11:47.44 | Orionshock | that's nice |
| 11:47.46 | NoLife3 | i said mobility |
| 11:47.47 | thul | Orionshock: blink? |
| 11:47.48 | Orionshock | 5 mins CD |
| 11:47.49 | Fin | I would like to know if there's anyone here who doesn't think that their class is broken |
| 11:47.55 | Ellipsis | <--- |
| 11:47.57 | thul | Fin: my paladin is great :-D |
| 11:47.58 | NoLife3 | you said sprint which is a skill on a 5min cd |
| 11:47.58 | nevcairiel | <-- |
| 11:48.03 | nevcairiel | my druid is just fine |
| 11:48.17 | Fin | Ellipsis: what class? |
| 11:48.21 | Ellipsis | warlock |
| 11:48.23 | Orionshock | 2-5mins CDs that can brake or beat any other class |
| 11:48.24 | Fin | ah, yes, well |
| 11:48.27 | Orionshock | xpt warriors |
| 11:48.30 | NoLife3 | charge,intercept,blink,frost nova |
| 11:48.32 | Fin | I'm levelling a lock atm |
| 11:48.32 | nevcairiel | oh yeah, my warlock is fine too |
| 11:48.33 | thul | Orionshock: not really |
| 11:48.36 | Ellipsis | Fin: that doesn't count, right? :P |
| 11:48.37 | NoLife3 | thats what i call mobility |
| 11:48.50 | Fin | everything they say about locks being overpowered and essentially invincible is absolutely true |
| 11:48.52 | nevcairiel | i'm leveling a warrior right now, you know what sucks? getting diff weapons all the time and lacking weapon skill <.< |
| 11:48.57 | Orionshock | sorry when a rogue can sit there and pop CD after CD on top of a stunlock , i call that bullshit |
| 11:48.59 | Ellipsis | shhh Fin |
| 11:49.05 | Ellipsis | we're not supposed to *admit* it! |
| 11:49.06 | Orionshock | and IMBA and fooked |
| 11:49.10 | Fin | hah |
| 11:49.10 | thul | Orionshock: you're wrong |
| 11:49.15 | nevcairiel | leveling my lock was so relaxing |
| 11:49.29 | NoLife3 | orion: you are going around my argument when i said we lack mobility :) |
| 11:49.30 | nevcairiel | felguard specced i could fight anything |
| 11:49.31 | thul | Fin: paladin is so nice. I can spec ret and get nice burst damage for pvp |
| 11:49.35 | Orionshock | sorry thul i've experianced it every single time in BG's / open PvP / arenas |
| 11:49.45 | NoLife3 | stunlock is part of the rogue playstyle live with it |
| 11:49.45 | Ellipsis | felguard spec = throw a dot up and let your pet do the killing for you |
| 11:49.46 | Fin | droods, pallies, locks, and myself I think priests aren't as great as they used to be, but still not broken :) |
| 11:49.50 | thul | Orionshock: so.. what class do you play? |
| 11:49.51 | Ellipsis | it's so lazymode |
| 11:50.06 | Orionshock | no stunlock is not a play style is god mode |
| 11:50.09 | Fin | I'm levelling affliction atm |
| 11:50.11 | nevcairiel | ya, exactly the right thing for me in contrast to healing in high end raids |
| 11:50.13 | thul | Orionshock: class? :-) |
| 11:50.14 | Ellipsis | Fin wins |
| 11:50.29 | nevcairiel | i leveld affliction to 50 |
| 11:50.31 | nevcairiel | then felguard |
| 11:50.32 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:50.35 | Orionshock | and fuck trinket, oh so instead they just pop kidny shot 2 combo points early |
| 11:50.46 | Fin | just got Dark Pact, it's... unnecessary |
| 11:50.47 | Ellipsis | you gotta wait a few levels after 50 before it becomes really OP, but yeah |
| 11:50.59 | Ellipsis | lol Fin |
| 11:50.59 | Fin | oh? what do I get then? |
| 11:51.01 | Orionshock | thul: does it matter what class i play? |
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| 11:51.07 | thul | Orionshock: what class? :-) |
| 11:51.11 | Ellipsis | no, see what you do is dark pact when your mana gets low from killing 8 mobs at once |
| 11:51.12 | Ellipsis | see? |
| 11:51.12 | NoLife3 | it does in a way |
| 11:51.15 | nevcairiel | dark pact helps with the endless mana |
| 11:51.23 | NoLife3 | you are saying rogues are OP in pvp |
| 11:51.30 | NoLife3 | which is not true |
| 11:51.35 | Orionshock | oh - prove to me how what class i play has any FUCKING AFFECT ON THE FACT THAT ROGUES ARE INFACT OP |
| 11:51.41 | thul | Orionshock: again: what class? |
| 11:51.51 | thul | are you unable to answer this simple question? :-) |
| 11:51.53 | Fin | yes, I see... honestly, the thing I'm having a hard time getting used to is that I *will* survive if I pull four mobs at once... probably even more, I'm just not used to trying ti |
| 11:51.56 | Ellipsis | and the few levels past 50 thing was @ nevcairiel... the felguard's abilities don't get trained right at 50 |
| 11:51.56 | Fin | -ti+ti |
| 11:52.14 | NoLife3 | orion: did you every play a rogue and go toe to toe against a warrior |
| 11:52.24 | Orionshock | thul: i fail to see the relevance to the question. and case in point, im playing a rogue atm |
| 11:52.34 | thul | 1) stunlocks.. with 10-12k hp, my cs-ks will get you down to 6-8k hp.. big deal. If you're a warrior, you'll still be at 8-10k hp |
| 11:52.39 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: oh, dont remember it. i was still affliction in felwood .. so i couldve specced later then 50 .. been some time :P |
| 11:52.48 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 11:52.51 | NoLife3 | stun resist |
| 11:52.55 | Ellipsis | it's playable at 50, but he won't hold aggro nearly as well |
| 11:52.59 | thul | 2) CDs? All classes have Cs, the problem is that most classes like for instance mages have iceblock, blink etc on far _lower_ cds that are far more usefull than ours. |
| 11:52.59 | NoLife3 | cheap shot resis,ks resists |
| 11:53.02 | Ellipsis | demonic frenzy = massive win |
| 11:53.04 | NoLife3 | the list goes on |
| 11:53.10 | thul | 3) Stun resists have become far more common post-tbc. |
| 11:53.25 | Orionshock | NoLife3: and that happens once every 3 patches... i fail to see the point |
| 11:53.28 | thul | 4) rogues lack mobility. |
| 11:53.33 | Orionshock | every physical effect has a base resist |
| 11:53.39 | thul | Orionshock: stun-resist is quite common |
| 11:53.44 | nevcairiel | i hope the servers get back up .. i need to get my new axe out and skill some weaponskill .. weaponskill ftl :( |
| 11:53.47 | thul | both as class talents, racial AND on gear. |
| 11:53.55 | thul | Orionshock: you fail, realize it and do the honorable thing: Seppuku. |
| 11:53.59 | NoLife3 | orionshock: we still lack mobility in pvp |
| 11:54.00 | NoLife3 | period |
| 11:54.14 | Orionshock | mobility for what? |
| 11:54.16 | nevcairiel | sad fate of the melee classes |
| 11:54.19 | nevcairiel | live with it |
| 11:54.21 | Orionshock | moving to the next target? |
| 11:54.25 | Fin | I don't get this thing about saying other people fail all the time, I don't like it |
| 11:54.31 | Orionshock | prep / vanish/ shadow step |
| 11:54.31 | NoLife3 | its not the case for warriors nevcairiel |
| 11:54.36 | thul | yeah |
| 11:54.37 | Fin | (just as a side note) |
| 11:54.40 | thul | all rogues have shadowstep :-P |
| 11:54.56 | NoLife3 | shadowstep is overrated and useless shit |
| 11:55.02 | NoLife3 | i cannot raid with shadowstep |
| 11:55.08 | NoLife3 | illidan would laugh at me |
| 11:55.12 | thul | Orionshock: example: I cs a mage, he blinks out of it... then I sprint and shiv him... he frosts me and runs way.. I clos and run after... |
| 11:55.16 | thul | what happens then? ICEBLOCK |
| 11:55.21 | nevcairiel | i can root warriors and there is nothing they can do about it .. rogues on the other hand can CoS/Vanish out, pain in the ass :P |
| 11:55.25 | thul | my clos wears out, I get frosted again.. NOW what...? |
| 11:55.25 | Orionshock | NoLife3: that would explain alot tbh...your not suposed to raid with shadow step |
| 11:55.30 | thul | I'm stuck |
| 11:55.39 | thul | and I get killed from the distance |
| 11:55.41 | NoLife3 | then my point is still valid..we lack mobility |
| 11:55.47 | NoLife3 | if you dont spec shadowstep |
| 11:55.47 | thul | same with hunters... |
| 11:55.49 | thul | etc. |
| 11:55.54 | thul | shadowstep is a joke. |
| 11:56.25 | Orionshock | .. well maybe you shouldn't start off with a cheep shot.... |
| 11:56.27 | thul | shadowstep is "hey, here is your mobility, but well.. you get nada damage if you spec mobility, that is our way of saying thank you for your monthly fee rogues - blizard" |
| 11:56.37 | thul | Orionshock: so.. i start out with a garrote, i get three more seconds before blink |
| 11:56.43 | Orionshock | sap? |
| 11:56.47 | thul | if I have imp kick (no shadowstep) I get 5 seconds |
| 11:56.49 | thul | ... |
| 11:56.51 | thul | yeah, and what do i gain from the sap? :-) |
| 11:57.04 | NoLife3 | i sap and the what /wave? |
| 11:57.05 | Orionshock | either 1 time for others to catch up to you |
| 11:57.11 | Orionshock | or 2 they blow their trinket |
| 11:57.18 | thul | so, with imp kick and garrote, i can prolong the time before blink to 4-5 secs. |
| 11:57.19 | NoLife3 | we are talking 1vs1 here |
| 11:57.26 | thul | Orionshock: yeah, everyone is that stupid |
| 11:57.35 | thul | they just blow their trinket when they are in a stun that damage will revive. |
| 11:57.47 | thul | I always blow my trinkets when i get sapped. |
| 11:58.14 | NoLife3 | which is wrong thul |
| 11:58.46 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.49 | thul | NoLife3: irony |
| 11:58.54 | thul | Orionshock: eerhm? |
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| 11:59.05 | thul | Orionshock: _every_ time i cs/garrote mages, they blink-blank-away-I-am |
| 11:59.30 | Diao | fuck |
| 11:59.32 | thul | I stay away from paladins, warriors, shamans, hunters and mages, the classes i like are: priests and locks :-D |
| 11:59.34 | Diao | we've lost to the same pmr combo |
| 11:59.36 | NoLife3 | orionshock: i stronly believe that you are not playing rogue and not notice the lack of mobility |
| 11:59.38 | NoLife3 | :) |
| 11:59.39 | Orionshock | ok... 2 classes own you.... your point? |
| 11:59.49 | Diao | like 8 times now |
| 11:59.50 | Orionshock | 2/8 |
| 11:59.51 | thul | Orionshock: the other way around |
| 11:59.52 | Diao | only 10 points a game but still |
| 11:59.54 | Diao | it's painful |
| 12:00.06 | thul | Orionshock: i can kill priests and locks like 70/30 |
| 12:00.11 | thul | the other classes are more like 20/80 |
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| 12:00.32 | thul | no realms online yet :-( |
| 12:00.39 | Orionshock | i guess this is where you link your BT rogue and i call you a noob and the conversation ends... |
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| 12:01.07 | NoLife3 | hmm? |
| 12:01.24 | Fin | link! link! |
| 12:01.32 | V1c1ous | I love how even rogues don't like rogues no more :p |
| 12:01.42 | Orionshock | ... hum.... ic |
| 12:02.01 | NoLife3 | well if you play a rogue and fail to agree that we lack mobility |
| 12:02.14 | thul | i want realms back up :-( |
| 12:02.19 | NoLife3 | i stop to argue with you |
| 12:02.37 | Fin | what would make you happy? |
| 12:02.37 | NoLife3 | my bt gear has nothing to do with it |
| 12:02.38 | Paradox | sweet sweet salty tears of rogues |
| 12:02.45 | Fin | if rogues had blink? |
| 12:02.46 | Orionshock | well so 2/8 are better than rogues... so ... that only fk's over ~20% of the classes they come into contact with, where as other classes get screwed over entirely... |
| 12:02.53 | Orionshock | ok... i can see how this is balanced |
| 12:03.00 | thul | Orionshock: 6/8 |
| 12:03.02 | thul | not 2/8... |
| 12:03.03 | Kalroth | Rogues are for pussies, real men plays a warrior! |
| 12:03.07 | thul | so.. Orionshock |
| 12:03.11 | Fin | true! |
| 12:03.13 | thul | think, write, think some more, THEN press enter. |
| 12:03.17 | Orionshock | mages / hunters and who else? |
| 12:03.25 | Fin | warriors are ones with balls |
| 12:03.29 | Fin | cast iron balls |
| 12:03.40 | Ellipsis | real men play paladins |
| 12:04.05 | Kalroth | shiny too |
| 12:04.08 | Ellipsis | sorry sag_ich_nicht, I really did try to say that with a straight face... |
| 12:04.11 | Fin | well polished |
| 12:04.19 | thul | paladins are fine :-( |
| 12:04.25 | NoLife3 | orionshock: on a side note i have a question about the dailies addon :) |
| 12:04.28 | thul | Orionshock: paladins, shamans, warriors |
| 12:04.29 | Orionshock | thul: 6/8 would be used to describe those that suck worse than rogues |
| 12:04.29 | Kalroth | Ellipsis: hahah |
| 12:04.32 | Fin | a warrior must always keep his cast iron balls properly buffed |
| 12:04.39 | Orionshock | lol , yes NoLife3 |
| 12:04.48 | Fin | you should be able to see your face in them! |
| 12:05.10 | NoLife3 | i noticed yesterday that it keeps asking for the crystals quest even if i didnt have it |
| 12:05.22 | NoLife3 | then i had the quest and i could cancel it fine |
| 12:05.29 | Kalroth | Classes in order of greatness and importance: Warrior >>>>>>>>>> Healers that heal the warrior >>>>>>>>> Everyone else. |
| 12:05.29 | Ellipsis | or the other way around, Fin? |
| 12:05.36 | NoLife3 | happened just once tough could be me |
| 12:06.09 | thul | why are there no realms online :-( |
| 12:06.10 | Orionshock | well NoLife3 the netherwing crystals quest is a default option to pick up. |
| 12:06.29 | Diao | arghh |
| 12:06.30 | Fin | well, after a day's hard slaughter on the battlefield, a warrior may feel entitled to perhaps the odd spot of face-balling, yes |
| 12:06.30 | NoLife3 | yes in fact im checking now its ticked |
| 12:06.34 | NoLife3 | so its me |
| 12:06.36 | Diao | can't beat any disc priest/ar prep rogue/2nd dps |
| 12:06.37 | Diao | :( |
| 12:06.38 | Fin | if he so desires |
| 12:06.40 | CIA-41 | 03mikk 07Beta * r56165 10Ace3/ (split.bat unsplit.bat): |
| 12:06.40 | CIA-41 | Ace3: |
| 12:06.40 | CIA-41 | Add split.bat & unsplit.bat: |
| 12:06.40 | CIA-41 | - Takes all sublibraries and moves them out to separate addons. |
| 12:06.40 | CIA-41 | - Constructs dummy toc files for them. |
| 12:06.40 | CIA-41 | - Ace3 addon itself (slashcommands) doesn't load properly. I cba to fix right now. |
| 12:06.46 | Diao | rogue damage is way too good |
| 12:07.10 | *** join/#wowace Dwarik (n=Dwarik@dhcp-077-250-103-126.chello.nl) |
| 12:07.21 | thul | just hamstring the rogue |
| 12:07.25 | NoLife3 | qq some more we need more nerfs :) |
| 12:07.40 | Diao | i do |
| 12:07.48 | Diao | imp sprint and trinket |
| 12:07.49 | Diao | really fucks that |
| 12:07.51 | Orionshock | tbh - all i ask is that feraldruid dps scales to some viable no-shitty way |
| 12:07.58 | Diao | esp when crip > hamstring |
| 12:07.58 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.58 | thul | «So Klara turned head to foot, and put her most unmentionable part down on his hard-breathing nose and mouth, and took his old battering ram into her lips. Uncle was now as soft as a coil of excrement. She sucked on him nonetheless ... The Hound began to come to life. Right in her mouth. It surprised her. Alois had been so limp. But now he was a man again! His mouth lathered with her sap, he turned around and embraced her face with all the passion of his own |
| 12:09.05 | thul | best |
| 12:09.07 | thul | ever |
| 12:09.25 | Adirelle | ~seen hjalte |
| 12:09.27 | purl | hjalte <n=chatzill@0x535d7a53.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 20h 58m 5s ago, saying: 'Cryect, you here?'. |
| 12:09.27 | neenee | .. |
| 12:11.22 | Adirelle | lua> 1+1 |
| 12:11.45 | neenee | Hm. no servers yet. |
| 12:11.46 | Adirelle | ~lart lua_bot |
| 12:11.46 | purl | decapitates lua_bot conan the destroyer style |
| 12:11.52 | markt__ | nevcariel: weaponskill on your axe? i thought weapon skill was replaced with expertise in 2.3? |
| 12:12.14 | nevcairiel | markt__: real weaponskill which i need to get higher when i level up :P |
| 12:12.46 | NoLife3 | you still need to level up weapon skill as you go higher |
| 12:12.49 | Orionshock | btw NoLife3 are u using v4 or v5? |
| 12:12.49 | thul | ah |
| 12:12.49 | thul | i want realms up |
| 12:12.49 | Orionshock | my realm is up |
| 12:12.49 | thul | Diao: your paladin should cleans you, and you should hamstring more often |
| 12:12.49 | thul | hmm, no realms in my list |
| 12:12.49 | thul | only quel-thalas |
| 12:12.49 | Orionshock | US |
| 12:12.49 | thul | which also is offline |
| 12:12.49 | thul | .... |
| 12:12.49 | lua_bot | Adirelle: 2 |
| 12:12.59 | NoLife3 | v5 orion |
| 12:12.59 | Diao | uh |
| 12:13.01 | Diao | thul |
| 12:13.03 | Diao | cleanse doesn't work |
| 12:13.03 | Diao | lol |
| 12:13.10 | Diao | fucking anti-dispel poison talents |
| 12:13.10 | Adirelle | lol, lua_bot is quite lagging ^^ |
| 12:13.17 | Diao | he cleanses |
| 12:13.18 | Diao | rogue shivs |
| 12:13.21 | Diao | or kidneyshots |
| 12:13.21 | NoLife3 | v4 is crap compared to v5 :) |
| 12:13.39 | markt__ | oh right - i didn't realise that weapon skill was still in place |
| 12:13.45 | markt__ | wowwiki has mislead me! |
| 12:14.06 | Orionshock | tbh NoLife3 there isn't really that much of a difference between the 2 |
| 12:14.15 | markt__ | wowwiki> "Note: In patch 2.3 weapon skill is being replaced by expertise" <-- fail |
| 12:14.48 | markt__ | perhaps that should say "weapon skill modifiers are being replaced by expertise modifiers"? or have i misunderstood entirely? |
| 12:14.50 | nevcairiel | i wish |
| 12:15.01 | nevcairiel | leveling weapon skill is the worst part of being a warrior |
| 12:15.09 | Camci | could someone link me a imba lvl 29 warrior twink build? :D |
| 12:15.15 | neenee | Yes.. it's so horrible to kill rats for a while. |
| 12:15.28 | CIA-41 | 03hegarol * r56166 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 12:15.28 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 12:15.28 | CIA-41 | - Fixed Arena Season 1 prices |
| 12:15.47 | NoLife3 | well orion the options are well placed and the design of the menus is much better |
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| 12:15.56 | NoLife3 | as regarding code im sure there is a big difference |
| 12:16.32 | thul | Diao: cleanse some more |
| 12:16.47 | thul | Diao: and if you get rogue to be busy with warrior, you have reached your goal |
| 12:17.12 | Diao | no |
| 12:17.18 | Diao | lol |
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| 12:17.22 | Diao | rogues destroy warriors so easily nowadays |
| 12:17.24 | Diao | that isn't the goal |
| 12:17.26 | thul | hahahaha |
| 12:17.30 | thul | that was the worst statement ever |
| 12:17.32 | NoLife3 | what? |
| 12:17.40 | thul | hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha |
| 12:17.42 | Diao | every top rogue |
| 12:17.45 | Diao | can beat every top warrior |
| 12:17.46 | Diao | 1v1 |
| 12:17.47 | thul | riiiight |
| 12:17.53 | Diao | ask any good rogue |
| 12:17.57 | thul | "any good rogue" |
| 12:18.04 | thul | your arguments are as flawed as your logic. |
| 12:18.16 | Diao | you're just biased |
| 12:18.16 | NoLife3 | who is a "good rogue"? |
| 12:18.29 | thul | yeah, since i spend 90% of my wow time on my warrior these days |
| 12:18.34 | Orionshock | NoLife3: actualy no... outside of the options table it'self and the placement of a few tables... it's copy and paste between the 2.... |
| 12:18.39 | thul | if you, as a warrior, can't beat a rogue... |
| 12:19.10 | NoLife3 | i taught ace3 was a differnt thing to ace when it comes to coding |
| 12:19.15 | NoLife3 | ace2* |
| 12:19.17 | Diao | i have 12.2k hp unbuffed, 11k armor without a shield, 1660 ap, 32% crit |
| 12:19.22 | Diao | 341 resil |
| 12:19.35 | Diao | and i cannot beat any rogue with equivalent gear (s2/s3 glad gear/weapons) |
| 12:19.43 | Orionshock | no not really |
| 12:20.11 | Orionshock | few differences in how the db works... and few renames here and there... but mostly the same |
| 12:20.14 | Diao | even my friends who play rogues agree |
| 12:20.20 | Diao | that warriors get destroyed by the new rogues |
| 12:20.33 | Diao | they never lose to warriors in 1v1 |
| 12:20.48 | NoLife3 | i need to learn coding :( |
| 12:20.50 | Diao | unless they are significantly outgeared |
| 12:20.57 | NoLife3 | i could use some addons for myself |
| 12:22.07 | Orionshock | only thing i can sugest is to start with something simple... like a fubar plugin |
| 12:22.46 | NoLife3 | well i dont know anything about coding so i would need to start from the basics |
| 12:22.53 | NoLife3 | lua for me is chinese |
| 12:23.17 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:24.59 | markt__ | ok, wowwiki updated - win! |
| 12:25.45 | NoLife3 | i have a problem with my fonts atm |
| 12:26.03 | NoLife3 | everything is small especially quest text |
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| 12:28.53 | NoLife3 | hmm :o |
| 12:28.55 | NoLife3 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cutup |
| 12:29.04 | NoLife3 | what is that nude woman doing there? |
| 12:30.40 | dylanm | Haha |
| 12:32.39 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 12:32.45 | [AR]Camci | lool |
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| 12:33.27 | NoLife3 | if my name was julienne i'd be offended :) |
| 12:33.45 | Kalroth | Aha, it was someone named "Railzdogg" |
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| 12:35.30 | dylanm | Cool name |
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| 12:42.01 | CIA-41 | 03mikk 07Ace3 * r56167 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: |
| 12:42.01 | CIA-41 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 12:42.01 | CIA-41 | - Fix CancelTimer() wrapper - it was feeding "self" as the id of the timer to cancel - obviously with zero effect. |
| 12:43.05 | NoLife3 | is there wau 2.0? |
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| 12:44.55 | Ellipsis | ~wau2 |
| 12:44.59 | purl | it has been said that wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 12:46.00 | Diao | !rating 2000 |
| 12:46.00 | Xinhuan | 2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 12:46.04 | Diao | !points 928 |
| 12:46.08 | Diao | aw it has a timer |
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| 12:46.12 | NoLife3 | should i un-install 1.9 first? |
| 12:46.18 | Diao | !points 928 |
| 12:46.18 | Xinhuan | 928 arena points require 1910(5s), 2000(3s) and 2146(2s) team rating. |
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| 12:48.04 | CIA-41 | 03mikk 07Beta * r56168 10Ace3/ (AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua tests/AceTimer-3.0-test2.lua): |
| 12:48.04 | CIA-41 | Ace3 - AceTimer: |
| 12:48.04 | CIA-41 | - Check CancelTimer() is given a string (would have protected andreasg in his agUF wrapper snafu) |
| 12:48.04 | CIA-41 | - Fiddle error messages a little |
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| 12:49.42 | markt__ | NoLife3: you might want to take a look at WUU - http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 12:50.53 | Orionshock | NoLife3: won't matter - WAU 1.9 and WAU2 are not connected at all |
| 12:51.43 | NoLife3 | cheers orion |
| 12:51.48 | dieck | !points 1497 |
| 12:51.48 | Xinhuan | 1497 arena points require 2919(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 12:52.19 | dieck | hm, ok, I'll have to go for INFINIT team rating :) |
| 12:52.26 | dieck | !rating 1497 |
| 12:52.26 | Xinhuan | 1497 rating gives 343(5s), 302(3s) and 260(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 12:52.35 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: your bot seems borked |
| 12:52.53 | markt__ | do i take it from thul's silence that EU realms are back up now? :) |
| 12:54.01 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 12:54.17 | NoLife3 | he is busy looking at his epics :) |
| 12:54.37 | Ellipsis | gah, get these nubs off my realm |
| 12:54.50 | Ellipsis | "how is [Arcanite Bar] made?" |
| 12:56.22 | Diao | i give up on 2s and 3s arenas since i can't find a druid partner :( |
| 12:56.33 | Diao | rogues are just way too dominant in those brackets |
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| 12:58.02 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: sure it wasn't "How is [Transmute: Arcanite Bar] made?" |
| 12:58.21 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 12:58.25 | Ellipsis | how I mine for fish? |
| 12:59.32 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r56169 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 5 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: fix all timers to use AceTimer directly without the funky wrapper |
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| 13:00.04 | Orionshock | .. ag_UnitFrames, the Ace3 meta project :P |
| 13:01.09 | Orionshock | i still want something like self.db:GetSTDIOprofileOptions("inline") |
| 13:01.09 | nevcairiel | you need something to find the quirks |
| 13:02.02 | nevcairiel | wah? |
| 13:02.09 | Ellipsis | wait, what? |
| 13:02.26 | Orionshock | STDIO -- standard I/O |
| 13:02.37 | Orionshock | ie : stdio.h |
| 13:02.44 | nevcairiel | i got that |
| 13:02.52 | Ellipsis | what does that have to do with WoW? |
| 13:02.52 | nevcairiel | but what do you want from that function? |
| 13:03.18 | Kalroth | silly Ellipsis! |
| 13:03.19 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: he wants the standard profile switching options table |
| 13:03.36 | nevcairiel | ah |
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| 13:03.40 | Orionshock | the standard profile options that i've come to love and adore in most ace2 addons |
| 13:03.42 | nevcairiel | like AceDB did before |
| 13:03.47 | nevcairiel | in 2.0 |
| 13:03.49 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 13:04.11 | nevcairiel | i wanted to draft something like that up and put it on the wiki for everyone to use |
| 13:05.38 | CIA-41 | 03gamefaq * r56170 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: HyjalSummit Module deDE Update |
| 13:06.23 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: then you should =P |
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| 13:08.57 | CIA-41 | 03rabbit * r56171 10Ace2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:08.57 | CIA-41 | Ace2: |
| 13:08.57 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.57 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.57 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.02 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.04 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.58 | Xinhuan | whoa ace2 update |
| 13:10.47 | vhaarr | it just seems noone else cares about it any more |
| 13:11.01 | vhaarr | despite the fact that some of our most popular addons still use it |
| 13:11.08 | [Horde]Tricksy | what's a recommended equipcompare addon at this time? |
| 13:11.19 | Zhinjio | EquipCompare |
| 13:11.25 | [Horde]Tricksy | lol, thanks :p |
| 13:11.32 | Zhinjio | Amazing, wot? |
| 13:11.34 | Xinhuan | hmm its called holding down the shift key :D |
| 13:11.42 | Xinhuan | in default UI |
| 13:11.42 | [Horde]Tricksy | that works? :p |
| 13:11.46 | Ellipsis | yes, yes it does |
| 13:11.51 | [Horde]Tricksy | ok, didn't know that, thanks ^^ |
| 13:12.00 | Xinhuan | eqcompare just lets you skip that hold-down-shift-key part |
| 13:12.01 | Zhinjio | huh. I didn't know that either. |
| 13:12.23 | Xinhuan | been in default ui since.. 2.1? |
| 13:13.12 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r56172 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fix the last timer |
| 13:14.04 | markt__ | if you want something to avoid having to use shift, use tekKompare |
| 13:14.21 | markt__ | cos EQcompare is now rolled back to incompatible |
| 13:16.44 | markt__ | tekKompare also works with chat hovertips and the ItemRefTip, which is nice |
| 13:17.08 | Diao | ugh |
| 13:17.23 | Diao | we went up to 1694 rating |
| 13:17.25 | [Horde]Tricksy | ok, thanks for the tips ^^ |
| 13:17.33 | Diao | then faced 3 different gladiator rogue mage priest teams |
| 13:17.40 | Diao | and lost to all of them multiple times |
| 13:17.45 | Diao | and now we're down to 1573 -.- |
| 13:17.57 | [Horde]Tricksy | well, gladiator should be common now? :p |
| 13:18.05 | Diao | well |
| 13:18.14 | Diao | rogue mage priest is the most bs matrix in 3s |
| 13:18.16 | Diao | :( |
| 13:18.59 | Diao | we had to stop playing because we kept fighting the same makeups and we can't counter it at all without a druid on our team |
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| 13:19.52 | greppy | Rogue + Mage + Priest = Win? |
| 13:19.58 | Diao | yea |
| 13:20.02 | greppy | cool |
| 13:20.03 | Diao | it's pretty much easy 2k+ rating |
| 13:20.18 | Diao | you lockdown the enemy priest if there is one, otherwise warrior |
| 13:20.27 | Diao | if none then go for their healer |
| 13:20.44 | Diao | with the retarded amount of burst on that team, unless they have 2 healers they can't heal through it |
| 13:21.03 | Diao | and if they do have 2 healers they don't do enough damage to counter the comp |
| 13:21.12 | Diao | as your priest is manaburning one |
| 13:21.17 | Diao | it's just dumb |
| 13:21.25 | greppy | Shadow Priest or Holy/Disc? |
| 13:21.35 | Diao | full disc |
| 13:21.39 | Diao | 4x/1x |
| 13:21.47 | Diao | generally accepted build is either 42/19 or 43/18 |
| 13:22.10 | Diao | teams with shadow priest + rogue/mage lose if their burst fails |
| 13:22.14 | Diao | (ie against 2 healer teams) |
| 13:22.29 | Diao | but with a full disc priest you can survive the single dps against 2 healer teams |
| 13:22.34 | Diao | and burst down the single healer ones |
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| 13:25.58 | dylanm | Sweet how realms are down to restore titles that are largely ill-gotten. |
| 13:26.53 | Diao | actually they banned a lot of teams for win trading |
| 13:26.57 | Diao | lol |
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| 13:29.20 | CIA-41 | 03bam * r56173 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 13:29.20 | CIA-41 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 13:29.20 | CIA-41 | - Price updates. |
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| 13:37.34 | thul | markt__: ofc :-P |
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| 13:43.25 | thul | when i talk a lot, I don't wow. |
| 13:44.21 | balstor | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 13:44.24 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@37.64-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18h 34m 48s ago, saying: 'why do people change inside jokes on wiki pages ?'. |
| 13:46.21 | Kalroth | lol |
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| 13:57.42 | thul | wtf is up with 2500 judgement of righteousness crits? :-P |
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| 14:04.42 | vrak | is there an addon that lets me modify the recipe list in skillet (creating my own categories and put stuff in them, etc) ? |
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| 14:04.57 | CIA-41 | NiHao: |
| 14:04.57 | CIA-41 | - TOC update for 2.3 |
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| 14:39.44 | Amadeo | echo |
| 14:40.22 | Stanzilla | echo |
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| 14:41.26 | Josh_Borke | echo |
| 14:41.33 | Ellipsis | echo |
| 14:42.29 | Josh_Borke | purl, say echo |
| 14:42.30 | purl | echo |
| 14:42.46 | Amadeo | This cavern is deeper than I thought |
| 14:43.04 | Stanzilla | Josh_Borke: you could've done that via priv. msg...now you ruined it :( |
| 14:43.15 | Josh_Borke | Stanzilla: i can never get it to work |
| 14:43.27 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 14:43.31 | Nefarion | realms up |
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| 14:45.20 | Pkekyo| | did s3 hit today? |
| 14:45.41 | Amadeo | Nope |
| 14:45.43 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|: it hit yesterday |
| 14:45.44 | Amadeo | Yesterday! |
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| 14:48.04 | Josh_Borke | i've got to say, the trash going to the hawk boss is annoying |
| 14:48.21 | Bejitt | ./agree |
| 14:49.05 | Pkekyo| | Josh_Borke: for you americans maybe |
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| 14:51.58 | thul | Pkekyo|: yeah |
| 14:52.06 | thul | Pkekyo|: so now my rogue got shiny new epics |
| 14:54.39 | Pkekyo| | just bought s3 chest and s2 shoulders :) where can I get the s1 stuff? |
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| 14:55.07 | sb | gonna buy s3 chest + gloves + offhand now ;p |
| 14:55.08 | Lukian | usual honor vendors |
| 14:55.11 | Lukian | ? |
| 14:55.16 | thul | Pkekyo|: in SW |
| 14:55.30 | thul | I got s2 offhand, s1 mainhand, s1 thrown and a new mount :-P |
| 14:55.35 | Pkekyo| | thul: SW? |
| 14:55.47 | thul | stormwind |
| 14:55.48 | kenlyric | SW and Org |
| 14:55.48 | thul | if you are alliance |
| 14:55.56 | thul | orgrimmar if you are hordeevilness. |
| 14:56.31 | Pkekyo| | geif arena/honor vendors in my beloved thunder bluff :p |
| 14:57.21 | kenlyric | wait until WotLK, when dalaran has no banks and only has port to shatt. |
| 14:57.21 | Pkekyo| | shame I couldn't afford the s2 legs :< |
| 14:57.23 | Polarina | I'm level 69 and I have 910 Gold. I earned it all by myself (Quests, drops, profession). :) |
| 14:57.30 | kenlyric | to keep shatt alive! |
| 14:57.38 | Pkekyo| | Polarina: easy :) |
| 14:57.39 | kenlyric | Polarina: lol |
| 14:57.41 | kenlyric | that's pretty fail |
| 14:57.47 | Pkekyo| | I had 2k when I hit 70 |
| 14:57.48 | Polarina | Fail? |
| 14:57.52 | Pkekyo| | after powerleveling blacksmithing |
| 14:58.00 | kenlyric | I had about 2200 on both my 70s when they hit 70. |
| 14:58.06 | kenlyric | so about 2000 at 69 |
| 14:58.09 | Polarina | I'm proud of myself because I can afford my flying mount when I ding. :) |
| 14:58.35 | Polarina | This is my first character. |
| 14:58.37 | kenlyric | you've been buying things. |
| 14:59.02 | Polarina | kenlyric: Exactly. I purchase arrows and water. :) |
| 14:59.16 | thul | hehe |
| 14:59.17 | kenlyric | so how do you only have 900g? |
| 14:59.20 | thul | i had like 10g when i hit 70 :-P |
| 14:59.40 | DreadWingKnight | I have this nasty tendency of spending money as I get it |
| 14:59.44 | Polarina | kenlyric: Because I bought a epic mount? |
| 14:59.47 | DreadWingKnight | so I just send it to a toon I don't play |
| 14:59.56 | Ozguli | my first char had -enchanting- as profession, can you believe? |
| 15:00.08 | kenlyric | Ozguli: that's not so bad. |
| 15:00.18 | kenlyric | if you just used it to disenchant :) |
| 15:00.22 | Ozguli | -income |
| 15:00.31 | kenlyric | if you leveled it, then god help you. |
| 15:00.36 | Ozguli | indeed |
| 15:00.39 | Pkekyo| | rofl thul |
| 15:00.54 | Ozguli | alt has tailoring&skinning... |
| 15:01.20 | Ozguli | somewhat better |
| 15:01.40 | Pkekyo| | I have two alts with enchanting >.< |
| 15:01.43 | kenlyric | my first char had herbalism/alchamy/skinning/tailoring/mining/herbalism/mining/echanting/mining/herbalism/alchemy. |
| 15:02.26 | Pkekyo| | rofl, indeed |
| 15:02.29 | DreadWingKnight | cycled through in that order huh? |
| 15:02.37 | Pkekyo| | picked up blacksmithing four times on my warr :p |
| 15:02.40 | Josh_Borke | my first char has mining/blacksmithing |
| 15:02.50 | kenlyric | leveled mining twice at 60. |
| 15:03.07 | Josh_Borke | still haven't hit 300 bsing |
| 15:04.09 | kenlyric | this time around I was skin/herbalism until I finished all of my quests after 70 then switched mining/herb. Then when dailies came out I switched to tailoring/enchanting |
| 15:04.48 | markt__ | my main is a duster through and through (and a herbie) |
| 15:05.02 | Pkekyo| | is it still possible to buy Veteran's pvp accessories? |
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| 15:05.13 | DreadWingKnight | don't think so |
| 15:05.24 | DreadWingKnight | they got replaced by vindicators at the same price |
| 15:05.43 | markt__ | i need to get a decent money-making prof on my alt |
| 15:05.44 | Pkekyo| | damnit, was hoping for veteran's at reduced cost :p |
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| 15:06.30 | CIA-41 | 037destiny * r56177 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 15:06.30 | CIA-41 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:06.30 | CIA-41 | - added "Fiery Blaze Enchantment" translations needed |
| 15:06.33 | kenlyric | wow economy is such that if your profession doesn't provide you with a critical BoP item/benefit, it's mostly not profitable to have it. |
| 15:07.02 | thul | i have skinning LWorking :-P |
| 15:07.07 | Pkekyo| | damnit, not enough WSG marks for Gladiator's legs >.< |
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| 15:07.10 | kenlyric | I'm still not convinced +40 healing is worth an entire profession slot. |
| 15:07.21 | thul | skinning makes me lots of money |
| 15:07.24 | kenlyric | but, since dailies I don't feel an urge to go around gathering anymore. |
| 15:08.40 | markt__ | i figure alch is a good way to go - plenty of people always need more pots |
| 15:08.50 | Cryect | alchemy won't make you money |
| 15:08.50 | kenlyric | blizzard would make the economy make much more sense if gathering was a secondary skill |
| 15:09.21 | Cryect | it did for a while if you were one of the lucky ones with a new flask recipe like 2 weeks after expansion but not now |
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| 15:09.24 | kenlyric | market will always make pots cheaper than mats. |
| 15:09.28 | Cryect | yep |
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| 15:10.00 | many | market will make all products cheaper than mats. |
| 15:10.05 | markt__ | ok - same with JC then? basically, you're saying gather profs make more money |
| 15:10.11 | Cryect | yes |
| 15:10.27 | Cryect | its only good if you have a unique recipe |
| 15:10.37 | Cryect | or there isn't many others with it basically |
| 15:10.46 | kenlyric | JC you can exploit on new season day. |
| 15:10.56 | Cryect | JC was great for money when not everyone had a pattern and the occasioanl times |
| 15:10.56 | kenlyric | but those don't come around frequently. |
| 15:11.28 | DreadWingKnight | biggest profits from the profs come when new stuff for them comes out |
| 15:11.29 | DreadWingKnight | usually |
| 15:11.31 | markt__ | better get prepped for skilling up scrying as soon as it comes out then =] |
| 15:12.04 | kenlyric | nuts to that. |
| 15:12.11 | Adirelle | secureframe gurus: can we use an unit name in the "target" attribute with action type "target" ? |
| 15:12.14 | kenlyric | skinning/mining when WotLK comes out |
| 15:12.34 | Cryect | yeah both make a ton of money off people leveling :-p |
| 15:12.52 | kenlyric | which is why the system is broken. |
| 15:13.08 | Cryect | and it results in the items crafted being worthless |
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| 15:13.14 | Cryect | because people just trying to sell their crafted work |
| 15:13.15 | kenlyric | lots of reasons why the gathering system is dumb. |
| 15:13.38 | kenlyric | there's are two professions which don't require gathering. |
| 15:13.47 | markt__ | hehe, i took tailoring while levelling dusting so i could dust stuff to skill up |
| 15:13.50 | Josh_Borke | tailoring and enchanting! |
| 15:14.03 | Cryect | tailoring and enchanting both require gathering last I looked :-p |
| 15:14.06 | markt__ | then dropped it for herbing |
| 15:14.09 | Cryect | just not a gathering profession |
| 15:14.18 | kenlyric | that's what I mean. |
| 15:14.31 | kenlyric | they're the reason that gathering professions should be secondary skills. |
| 15:15.02 | kenlyric | and it makes no logical sense either. Like picking a flower is hard. |
| 15:15.18 | markt__ | should be about yield |
| 15:15.22 | kenlyric | herbalism should let you *grow* pants |
| 15:15.24 | kenlyric | *plants |
| 15:15.25 | dylanm | You can't argue for logic in WoW :p |
| 15:15.31 | Adirelle | kenlyric, or recognize them |
| 15:15.52 | SunTsu | kenlyric: What lets you grow pants is tailoring and leatherworking ;) |
| 15:15.57 | markt__ | you could argue that people without any herbalism skills ruin everything they pick |
| 15:16.03 | SunTsu | Or smithing |
| 15:16.08 | dylanm | With their fat, clumsy hands. |
| 15:16.10 | Cryect | whatever crafting/gathering is all messed up in WoW worst system I've seen out there basically |
| 15:16.23 | dylanm | :p how is it that bad? |
| 15:16.26 | markt__ | yeah, it could do with some work |
| 15:16.27 | Cryect | I don't know why anyone wants to leveling crafting and get all the recipes |
| 15:16.30 | Cryect | there is no interaction |
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| 15:16.40 | Cryect | Press buttons to make things without thought is awful |
| 15:16.42 | Adirelle | the fact that mats are more expensive than the product is insane |
| 15:16.44 | kenlyric | I completely regret taking up tailoring for the primal mooncloth set. |
| 15:16.52 | kenlyric | but I'm trapped in it until I replace those pieces now |
| 15:16.52 | Cryect | haha primal mooncloth |
| 15:16.58 | SunTsu | My greatest problem at the moment is, since they improved leveling speed my gathering professions absolutely lag |
| 15:17.33 | kenlyric | enchanting too, though it gives the rather useful disenchanting skill which is continuously practical. |
| 15:17.36 | markt__ | heh, levelling herbalism from 0-300 at 60 was cake - i imagine the same with mining |
| 15:17.47 | markt__ | ofc skinning is slower cos you have to kill things |
| 15:17.56 | Cryect | mining is more of a pain |
| 15:17.58 | SunTsu | I run around in zones where I can hardly gather anything |
| 15:18.14 | Osstia | i'm not a fan of lvling mining |
| 15:18.17 | kenlyric | mining just takes so long compared to flower picking |
| 15:18.24 | Osstia | i can do 0-300 herbs in about 2.5 hours |
| 15:18.31 | dylanm | kenlyric: Yeah I just like enchanting because I don't have to vend good items as much. |
| 15:18.36 | kenlyric | the pick speed should be faster since you have to do four of them |
| 15:19.04 | kenlyric | when WotLK I will probably keep enchanting and drop tailoring for mining. |
| 15:19.16 | markt__ | but that makes no logical sense - it takes longer to mine than to pick plants ^^ |
| 15:19.18 | kenlyric | skinning is actually profitable while you level, but once I stop killing things it becomes useless again. |
| 15:19.24 | dylanm | Inscription has to be OP |
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| 15:19.40 | kenlyric | dylanm: they said the same thing about jewelcrafting... |
| 15:19.43 | dylanm | Although I guess I assumed the same about JC |
| 15:19.44 | dylanm | RIght |
| 15:19.51 | dylanm | And really it's not bad |
| 15:20.07 | dylanm | But it does give out for personal use at some point, something that doesn't happen to enchanters |
| 15:20.14 | kenlyric | though, they have promised more bound items for professions in WotLK |
| 15:20.20 | markt__ | now - engineering - there's a "fun" profession |
| 15:20.27 | dylanm | Granted, this happens in BT so it's not like it's useless for very long |
| 15:20.27 | Osstia | lol |
| 15:20.35 | Osstia | Engineering is actually somewhat useful right now |
| 15:20.41 | sb | it is? :p |
| 15:20.41 | Osstia | for the first time in 3 years |
| 15:20.46 | markt__ | *kill target dummies* *kill target dummies* *kill target dummies* |
| 15:20.57 | Osstia | The mote extractors are making me a killing |
| 15:21.10 | kenlyric | but are they really? |
| 15:21.10 | Osstia | so useful for making money, not for killing |
| 15:21.25 | kenlyric | could you make the same money with mining in that spot? |
| 15:21.31 | Osstia | no |
| 15:21.42 | Osstia | I spent 45 minutes doing arenas in nagrand the other night |
| 15:21.53 | Osstia | I got 8 primal air in between matches |
| 15:21.55 | kenlyric | from the bugged cloud? |
| 15:22.00 | Osstia | no |
| 15:22.09 | Osstia | just from fluing in circles in between matches |
| 15:22.26 | Osstia | s/fluing/flying/ |
| 15:22.42 | Osstia | thanks purl |
| 15:22.50 | CIA-41 | 03ananhaid * r56178 10CooldownTimers2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:22.50 | CIA-41 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 15:22.50 | CIA-41 | - Add zhCN/zhTW Locale.(Chinese Locale by CWDG-digmouse) |
| 15:23.02 | NoLife3 | suggestion for eu ppl..if you have primal mana sell them now |
| 15:23.24 | Ozguli | NoLife3 why's that? |
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| 15:23.39 | NoLife3 | lots of enchanting going on |
| 15:23.39 | Osstia | grab primal life too |
| 15:23.44 | Ozguli | meh |
| 15:23.49 | Ozguli | not on my realm at least |
| 15:23.52 | markt__ | dylanm: enchanters do get personal use... |
| 15:23.54 | NoLife3 | im selling them at 25g..some servers even 40g |
| 15:24.05 | dylanm | markt__: That's what I'm saying. |
| 15:24.12 | NoLife3 | oh and prismatic shards |
| 15:24.15 | NoLife3 | are going high as well |
| 15:24.19 | markt__ | dylanm: ...the ring enchants - woo :-p |
| 15:24.21 | dylanm | markt__: You get the self-only enchants that nooo one else can get. |
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| 15:24.51 | Ozguli | what kind of enchants? |
| 15:24.54 | Ozguli | are they good? |
| 15:25.13 | NoLife3 | ap,resilience |
| 15:25.27 | Ozguli | cheers |
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| 15:25.49 | Bejitt | what's a good alternative to chronometer? |
| 15:25.53 | dylanm | They aren't mindblowing but nothing outside of being an enchanter can give you anything better. |
| 15:26.16 | Osstia | They are a stat boost to rings, which nobody else has. so its nice |
| 15:26.39 | kenlyric | but fairly minor. |
| 15:26.39 | NoLife3 | i dropped alchemy for enchanting and im not regreting it |
| 15:26.52 | NoLife3 | i had all possible flasks except the AP |
| 15:26.54 | kenlyric | +24 spell damage for an entire profession. |
| 15:27.00 | NoLife3 | which i use in every raid |
| 15:27.04 | dylanm | http://wowwiki.com/Enchantments_by_slot#Finger |
| 15:27.06 | kenlyric | but, if you don't need money, it works. |
| 15:27.09 | NoLife3 | got pissed and dropped it |
| 15:27.11 | nevcairiel | what do other professions get kenlyric? :P |
| 15:27.27 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: mining gets +infinite gold :) |
| 15:27.39 | NoLife3 | gathering profession + anything is fine |
| 15:27.42 | nevcairiel | thats besides the point |
| 15:27.50 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: tailoring gets frozen shadoweave, which remains awesome for a long time. |
| 15:27.52 | NoLife3 | gathering professions are always gold makers |
| 15:27.59 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: no, that's exactly the point :) |
| 15:28.28 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: true, if you are a lock or a spriest, or maybe a frost mage, but its still besides the point, which profession gets me a stat boost? |
| 15:28.32 | kenlyric | professions need to do more for the person who has them for them to be viable and desired. |
| 15:29.03 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: if you're a lock or a spriest or a frost mage, tailoring. |
| 15:29.11 | kenlyric | engineering, too. |
| 15:29.24 | kenlyric | offhand stat increase from alchemist stone |
| 15:29.52 | nevcairiel | ya well i am a druid with t6 items now, the +healing enchant on rings is the only thing i could benefit from |
| 15:29.55 | kenlyric | endchanting is easily the best of them. |
| 15:30.48 | nevcairiel | now they give alchemists a new potion .. well its damn cheap to create, but thats it |
| 15:31.28 | thul | skinning is so great |
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| 15:31.47 | thul | 200g pr hour, yehaw |
| 15:32.00 | Ozguli | thul skinning stuff that drops motes, yehaw |
| 15:33.02 | thul | mhm |
| 15:33.04 | Ozguli | oh |
| 15:33.11 | thul | but i mostly do nether drakes |
| 15:33.13 | Ozguli | I thought that enchanters get something new... |
| 15:33.15 | thul | those scales sell soo good |
| 15:33.25 | Ozguli | those current ones suck I'd rather be a BS |
| 15:35.11 | evl | http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?js7ztis87hk |
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| 15:38.21 | nevcairiel | evl: man someone was bored |
| 15:38.47 | markt__ | lol @ that animation |
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| 15:43.03 | fridg | is there a OneBank style module that supports guild banks? |
| 15:43.41 | markt__ | would arkinventory do for you? |
| 15:44.48 | markt__ | eg. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full10333.jpg |
| 15:45.18 | sb | arkinventory sucks for guild bank :/ |
| 15:45.57 | markt__ | i agree - doesn't work for my guild bank usage/management, but it does do the OneBag style thing |
| 15:46.26 | Lukian | rofl evl |
| 15:47.47 | CIA-41 | 03xyphor * r56179 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: Added support for Armor and Resistances on the skill line (secundary line). Can also be set to "none" if not needed. |
| 15:48.23 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56180 10ag_UnitFrames/ (21 files in 18 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: less globals |
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| 15:50.18 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56181 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: toc fix |
| 15:52.05 | balstor | ~seen grayhoof |
| 15:52.07 | purl | i haven't seen 'grayhoof', balstor |
| 15:52.22 | balstor | bah you suck purl |
| 15:53.19 | Xyphor | Is there any way to show your current resilience in an addon? |
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| 15:53.55 | DreadWingKnight | probably Xyphor |
| 15:54.09 | Xyphor | probably, but can't find it on API docs |
| 15:54.10 | DreadWingKnight | since it's available in base ui on your character page |
| 15:54.39 | balstor | i have never seen resilience interface in wow, imagine you would have to scan all the equipment |
| 15:55.03 | DreadWingKnight | character page |
| 15:55.12 | DreadWingKnight | change the drop down to defenses |
| 15:55.17 | Xyphor | It is indeed on Char page |
| 15:55.21 | balstor | API* |
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| 15:55.36 | Xyphor | but haven't seen any API thingy for it |
| 15:55.50 | balstor | i know it's on the character page but never have seen it mentioned in any of th LUA interfaces kay |
| 15:55.50 | krka | balstor: Lua is not an acronym. It is a portugese word that means moon. |
| 15:56.26 | balstor | i care not krka |
| 15:57.27 | Xyphor | basicly Blizz screwed me again here... :p |
| 15:57.59 | balstor | yhea i think your doing a tooltip scanning unless one of the libraries here has done it already |
| 15:59.09 | Xyphor | I've just started lua... |
| 15:59.47 | JoshBorke | ~framexml |
| 15:59.47 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 16:05.40 | Bejitt | FrameXML/PaperDollFrame.lua:458 PaperDollFrame_SetResilience |
| 16:05.59 | Bejitt | that's where the character window sets the resilience info |
| 16:06.45 | Bejitt | there's no direct query for resilience, looks like it's a few different combat ratings |
| 16:07.15 | Bejitt | didnt realize there were different resiliences for melee/ranged/spell o_o |
| 16:08.15 | Ktwo | arena 3 shadowpriest chest: what sockets would you put in? star of elune a good choice? |
| 16:08.27 | markt__ | there are different resiliences?? |
| 16:08.50 | Cryect | just for talents |
| 16:09.13 | markt__ | ah, that makes sense |
| 16:14.47 | Xyphor | hmm indeed, but I just need the number resilience gotten from items :p |
| 16:15.52 | Xyphor | PaperDollFrame_SetResilience(stat6); |
| 16:15.54 | Xyphor | rairhgt |
| 16:16.16 | balstor | yhea i'm still waiting on the API to tell me how drunk someone is so i can start writing drinking games for raids |
| 16:16.22 | kenlyric | sweet fucking christ |
| 16:16.27 | kenlyric | day nine with no recipe |
| 16:16.56 | kergoth | what recipe? |
| 16:17.00 | kenlyric | cooking |
| 16:17.04 | kergoth | ahh right |
| 16:17.05 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 16:17.17 | kenlyric | oops, sorry. On day 4 or 5 I got the spell damage food. |
| 16:17.23 | kenlyric | errr, spell crit food |
| 16:17.43 | kergoth | my rogue has all but kibler's bits, the one i really want for my hunter. gogo murphy's law |
| 16:17.59 | kenlyric | my priest has all but kibbler's bits. |
| 16:18.04 | kenlyric | but my hunter just has spell crit food. |
| 16:18.13 | dylanm | Xyphor: Looking in the function it seems like they just get the combat ratings for all three types and use the minimum as the resil stat |
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| 16:19.24 | dylanm | They do it a lot in paperdollfframe... +dmg too iirc |
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| 16:20.37 | balstor | I got stormchops 2 days ago and the +hit food , on my warrior :) |
| 16:21.00 | Xyphor | They work with "PlayerStatFrameRight" and Left |
| 16:21.13 | dylanm | Huh |
| 16:21.23 | kenlyric | considering the stat cost of +hit, the +hit food is uber. |
| 16:21.33 | dylanm | kenlyric: Yeah cooking is tops. |
| 16:22.13 | markt__ | Xyphor: you looking at the function on line 442? |
| 16:22.33 | Xyphor | 442 is empty line? |
| 16:22.52 | markt__ | ok, well, line which says "function PaperDollFrame_SetResilience(statFrame)" |
| 16:23.05 | markt__ | that function should show you what you need |
| 16:23.07 | dylanm | In the lua, yeah. That's where you'll find it. |
| 16:23.34 | Xyphor | PaperDollFrame_SetResilience(stat6); (and before) local stat6 = getglobal(prefix..6); |
| 16:23.43 | markt__ | no, not that bit |
| 16:23.47 | markt__ | the bit where the function is declared |
| 16:24.09 | markt__ | ie. the bit that demonstrates that if you want resilience rating, then use the minimum combat rating of CRIT_TAKEN_MELEE, CRIT_TAKEN_RANGED and CRIT_TAKEN_SPELL |
| 16:24.21 | Xyphor | ! awakened |
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| 16:25.45 | markt__ | does that mean you understand now, or not? :) |
| 16:25.55 | dylanm | I hope that's what "awakened" means |
| 16:26.13 | Xyphor | It means I'm gonna crack my head a bit more now, but I must do it myself for the satisfaction :p |
| 16:26.15 | markt__ | ok, was wondering if ! was a boolean not =] |
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| 16:29.11 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: i've made 5 JC skillups since i started cutting mystic dawnstones from halaa |
| 16:29.16 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: and offering 5g per skillup |
| 16:29.19 | kadrahil | mwahaha |
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| 16:30.54 | kergoth | hmm, dont think i ever got that recipe |
| 16:31.59 | Xyphor | kergoth: Go to Halaa :) |
| 16:32.14 | kergoth | apparently :) |
| 16:32.18 | kergoth | need the steady talasite recipe too |
| 16:32.38 | Xyphor | also there |
| 16:33.18 | kergoth | what jc cut gems sell the best? i heard sturdy star of elune is a good bet |
| 16:33.54 | Xyphor | I usually sell Solid and Veiled |
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| 16:34.17 | dylanm | MSD is supposed to be straight fire as of Tuesday |
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| 16:36.07 | Codayus | Runed Living Ruby and Solid Star of Elune are always good sellers. |
| 16:36.51 | Xyphor | Veiled Noble Topaz seems to sell well too |
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| 16:37.16 | Codayus | Whether you'll get much profit varies by server. Living Rubies are 50-60g on mine; the Runed cut is 60-65g. High volume, and if you time it right, decent profit. |
| 16:37.37 | Codayus | (Of course, they were 90g or so today. But new Arena seasons don't happen every day...) |
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| 16:38.49 | jeramy | if you can browse the svn repository, but get and error 400 everytime you try to checkout, using unix tools, any idea what the most likely culprit is? |
| 16:39.11 | Codayus | Basically, if you want high volume, look for a gem that an entire class or spec stacks. Stay away from specialized cuts that people take only for socket bonuses. |
| 16:39.15 | kadrahil | yeah i'm about to start that grind |
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| 16:40.00 | Kamaris | anyone know of a DKP management site and in game addon that works with flat points instead of zerosum? |
| 16:40.53 | markt__ | jeramy: you're using "svn co" from the command line? |
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| 16:42.12 | jeramy | markt__, apparently its a known issue with squid proxies and svn |
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| 16:42.25 | markt__ | mmmm, proxies |
| 16:43.25 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ in WSG vs. 9 healers and a warrior |
| 16:44.13 | Codayus | Kamaris: Well, EQDKP wasn't designed for zero sum. |
| 16:44.24 | balstor | and the warrior will die from lack of heals |
| 16:44.54 | Kamaris | the DKP system we've been using for a year has worked quite well for us, but now the site is broken due to custom code and being forced to relocate hosts |
| 16:44.55 | Codayus | So...depending on what you mean by "flat points" there's a start. In game addon...depends on what you want. Displaying points? Running auctions? Tracking loot and updating the site? *shrug* |
| 16:45.05 | kergoth | hmm, i should check the ah to buy up the +8agi gem, i know quite a few hunters & rogues use those since it scales better than ap |
| 16:45.30 | Kamaris | Codayus: flat points is probably a very inaccurate term, as i don't know how else to phrase it |
| 16:45.48 | Codayus | DKP systems are almost infinitely varied. "Flat points" doesn't mean much to me, no. :-( |
| 16:46.07 | Kamaris | i'll see if i can play around with eqdkp and see if it works how we need |
| 16:47.00 | CIA-41 | 03xyphor * r56182 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: Added resilience to the skill line |
| 16:47.14 | Xyphor | And THAT means I got it :) |
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| 16:48.38 | kergoth | what is powerdisplay? |
| 16:49.02 | Xyphor | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PowerDisplay |
| 16:49.06 | markt__ | gz Xyphor :) |
| 16:49.44 | kergoth | ah, nifty |
| 16:50.00 | markt__ | that looks like it could be useful |
| 16:51.02 | Xyphor | :D |
| 16:51.28 | Xyphor | I used to call it SpellPower, but after adding Attack Power and stuff that name just didn't fit anymore |
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| 16:52.23 | Xyphor | Next thing to add: Hit and Spell hit rating |
| 16:52.40 | kergoth | does hit really vary that much in a fight? |
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| 16:53.28 | Xyphor | those doesn't vary that much (I think) but those are secundary stuff for the 3th line |
| 16:53.37 | Xyphor | which is not on screenshot yet, since I added it today.. |
| 16:53.56 | kergoth | ah |
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| 16:54.26 | Xyphor | also to add might be ALTdraggig |
| 16:54.42 | harldephin | my Nauticus seems to lose time or something |
| 16:55.03 | kergoth | well if you're adding extra info like that from the char panel, could always add mh/oh/ranged weapon speed too for people who stack haste :) |
| 16:55.30 | Xyphor | kergoth: don't you fill my todo list! (added) |
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| 16:55.35 | harldephin | strange. now it's correct again |
| 16:55.45 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:55.53 | markt__ | my Nauticus just refuses to do anything useful atm |
| 16:56.05 | Droolio | get more guildies to run it |
| 16:56.38 | markt__ | yeah - i seem to have problems convincing them to move KTM -> Omen, let alone trying to run an addon they don't perceive they need :) |
| 16:56.52 | Droolio | heh |
| 16:57.17 | Droolio | i know the feeling |
| 16:57.22 | markt__ | was the world chat channel removed for a good reason? |
| 16:57.38 | Droolio | maybe when the new expansion comes with new transports they might find a need |
| 16:58.08 | markt__ | it'd be nice to have the option to use the world chat channel instead of guild addon comms |
| 16:58.20 | markt__ | or at least to grab an initial sync of some kind |
| 16:58.22 | Droolio | markt__: kinda. ppl preferred i use the guild comms api |
| 16:58.46 | markt__ | yeah, i agree it's the nicer way of doing it |
| 16:58.49 | Droolio | aye well... i'm working on a different method now |
| 16:58.59 | markt__ | does kind of rely on there being enough people in your guild who care though :) |
| 16:59.05 | markt__ | ah, cool |
| 16:59.07 | Droolio | it uses the chat channel when you're not guilded tho. say if you're on a bank alt etc. |
| 16:59.12 | Droolio | yup |
| 16:59.34 | markt__ | yeah - was wondering if i could hack it so it used the chat channel even when i was ^^ |
| 16:59.37 | Droolio | well i'll be adding whisper-whisper to non-guilded friends |
| 17:00.02 | Droolio | so it'll link the guilded peeps and non-guilded |
| 17:00.06 | Droolio | tbh tho... |
| 17:00.08 | markt__ | not sure there are actually any people on my faction running it out-of-guild though, lol - never seems to be any traffic when i join NauticSync |
| 17:00.41 | Droolio | i've refined the accuracy of the round-trip-times to drift no more than 0.1sec over the span of 7 days or so |
| 17:01.09 | markt__ | yeah - so a sync-on-enter-world would be awesome :) |
| 17:01.35 | Droolio | the comms works very leisurely atm |
| 17:02.21 | Droolio | the idea is to prevent everyone spamming their timers at the same time |
| 17:03.00 | markt__ | yeah, fair enough |
| 17:03.26 | thul | i wnt a taunka |
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| 17:03.59 | Droolio | would be so much easier if blizz provided a proper addon-addon comms api tho |
| 17:04.28 | markt__ | i guess they think that would generate too much traffic |
| 17:04.37 | cladhaire | whats wrong with the addon-addon comms api we have now? |
| 17:05.06 | markt__ | it doesn't work if you're not in the same guild/party/raid afaik? |
| 17:05.24 | cladhaire | well what are you trying to share? |
| 17:05.33 | harldephin | there's nobody been on in guild using Nauticus in the last 2 hours, but it seems to have synchronised itself |
| 17:05.34 | Droolio | i can't imagine a worse implementation tbh... |
| 17:05.38 | markt__ | we're talking about Nauticus |
| 17:05.42 | markt__ | so, world data |
| 17:05.43 | nevcairiel | addon comm works on whisper too now |
| 17:05.50 | cladhaire | Droolio: ... |
| 17:05.51 | cladhaire | why? |
| 17:06.06 | Droolio | where every client receives every addon prefix. they should add some kinda register feature so u can opt in |
| 17:06.15 | Droolio | cladhaire: why what? :) |
| 17:06.18 | markt__ | harldephin: have you travelled by zep/boat yet? |
| 17:06.38 | harldephin | sometime ago, yes. |
| 17:06.43 | markt__ | there you go then :) |
| 17:06.48 | cladhaire | Droolio: *shrug* that's a design tradeoff |
| 17:06.59 | cladhaire | and it doesn't negatively effect anything, unless addons are sending exorbanant amounts of data |
| 17:07.15 | nevcairiel | what they shouldnt be doing anyway |
| 17:07.17 | Droolio | cladhaire: and they often do in raids |
| 17:07.37 | nevcairiel | *shudder* |
| 17:07.53 | markt__ | it would be fine to have addon-addon world comms as long as there was some kind of throttling or something to prevent things spooning out of control |
| 17:08.06 | cladhaire | Droolio: Addons shouldn't be doing that |
| 17:08.08 | cladhaire | *shruG |
| 17:08.12 | nevcairiel | use a channel, its world and throttled.. :) |
| 17:08.14 | Droolio | they just need to add a register prefix |
| 17:08.27 | Droolio | so the server would filter out other uninteresting prefixes |
| 17:08.32 | markt__ | nevcairiel: lol, and so the circle is complete =] |
| 17:08.40 | Droolio | cladhaire: addons shouldn't do what? |
| 17:08.49 | nevcairiel | send too many informations |
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| 17:09.16 | cladhaire | you want prefix registrations, so addons have free reign to spam as much as they want |
| 17:09.18 | balstor | hey cncfanatics i finally got macros working with coolldowns in flexbar |
| 17:09.31 | balstor | also found a bug in your code |
| 17:09.36 | Droolio | addons already have free reign to spam as much as they want? |
| 17:09.54 | cladhaire | Droolio: You're saying, addons send too much data, and having prefix registrations helps solve that |
| 17:10.00 | markt__ | Droolio: i guess what i'd like to see in Nauticus is NauticSync chat channel enabled by default, and guild addon comms working alongside it |
| 17:10.01 | Droolio | the whole point is - you as a client cannot prevent someone in your guild or raid spamming you with their junk |
| 17:10.07 | Droolio | times that by 25/40 players... |
| 17:10.24 | nevcairiel | you can kick them :P |
| 17:10.33 | cladhaire | no matter how many events are coming |
| 17:10.35 | nevcairiel | wonder if there is an addon counting received messages by prefix and player.. |
| 17:10.37 | cladhaire | it shouldn't effect your client |
| 17:10.38 | cladhaire | honestly |
| 17:10.46 | cladhaire | its a single string comparison |
| 17:10.51 | cladhaire | which is about the cheapest thing there is in Lua |
| 17:11.03 | Droolio | it did on my old computer for example in the Thaddius event... |
| 17:11.23 | nevcairiel | wait, thaddius, did we even have addon comm back then? |
| 17:11.26 | harldephin | but any single add-on could recognize if there already was a message with a certain prefix and then prevent itself from spamming, right? |
| 17:11.28 | Droolio | the debuffs send the message count through the roof and i couldn't opt out of it |
| 17:11.55 | Droolio | harldephin: nope - you can't prevent someone in your raid or guild sending hidden messages to your client |
| 17:12.04 | cladhaire | Droolio: yes you can.. don't register for addon comms |
| 17:12.05 | nevcairiel | thaddius had a general performance problem, not necessarily addon based |
| 17:12.05 | cladhaire | problem solove |
| 17:12.13 | cladhaire | you're mis-diagnosing the problem |
| 17:12.31 | cladhaire | if prefix == "MOO" is such an insanely fast operation, its dwarfed by the overhead of hte event hander function call |
| 17:12.33 | Droolio | cladhaire: there is no register api tho. your client receives those messages |
| 17:12.39 | cladhaire | Droolio: no, you're wrong. |
| 17:12.40 | Droolio | your bandwidth is still being used |
| 17:12.45 | cladhaire | you have to register for the addon comm event |
| 17:12.47 | cladhaire | in order to get the events |
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| 17:12.56 | nevcairiel | you need to register for CHAT_MSG_ADDON or what its called first :P |
| 17:13.00 | markt__ | yeah, but presumably you have to opt-out of ALL addon comms |
| 17:13.04 | cladhaire | correct |
| 17:13.09 | cladhaire | but if you're on a computer that has that many problem |
| 17:13.15 | cladhaire | you're gonna have issues raiding with NO addons |
| 17:13.24 | cladhaire | its easy to blame one thing |
| 17:13.26 | Droolio | exactly |
| 17:13.45 | cladhaire | but the work being done in UNIT_HEALTH alone is an order of magnitude larger than any amount of addon comms you would be receiving. |
| 17:13.51 | markt__ | i think we can agree that the situation is "ok" but that it can be improved? |
| 17:13.51 | nevcairiel | that exactly doesnt really help you with your arguments o.O |
| 17:14.00 | cladhaire | if you _handle_ the addon comms inappropriately then yes, it can cause a problem |
| 17:14.06 | cladhaire | markt__: sure, there is room for improvement, as always |
| 17:14.23 | cladhaire | but making broad claims about the implementation as Droolio did is just simply inappropriate |
| 17:14.30 | cladhaire | its far from a fundamentally flawed system |
| 17:14.37 | cladhaire | and a massive improvement over the previous alternatives. |
| 17:14.42 | markt__ | sure, but it's also far from a fundamentally perfect system |
| 17:14.44 | Droolio | lol it's not a broad claim |
| 17:14.58 | nevcairiel | no system is ever going to be perfect |
| 17:14.59 | nevcairiel | never |
| 17:15.04 | cladhaire | "Droolio: i can't imagine a worse implementation tbh..." |
| 17:15.05 | cladhaire | i can |
| 17:15.07 | cladhaire | the original one |
| 17:15.09 | cladhaire | where it didn't exist |
| 17:15.19 | cladhaire | propose your change on the wow forums |
| 17:15.20 | markt__ | lol |
| 17:15.27 | cladhaire | and have at it |
| 17:15.27 | Droolio | a one where it didn't exist isn't even an implementation |
| 17:15.38 | Droolio | cladhaire: are you absolutely sure the client receives NO data when you don't register for that event? |
| 17:15.39 | cladhaire | really? cause there were at least two comm libs that operated over that medium |
| 17:15.50 | cladhaire | Droolio: independent testing says that's correct. |
| 17:16.04 | Droolio | coz i have a shitload of logs that show otherwise |
| 17:16.08 | cladhaire | "logs" |
| 17:16.14 | cladhaire | what kind of logs |
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| 17:16.24 | Droolio | when i had issues with the Thaddius event, i disabled every single addon and logged the traffic in ethereal |
| 17:16.31 | CIA-41 | 03xyphor * r56183 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: Added Hit Rating and Spell Hit Rating |
| 17:16.39 | markt__ | go Xyphor! |
| 17:16.47 | markt__ | on a roll :-) |
| 17:16.52 | Droolio | i was getting disconnects and huge lag every time the debuffs occurred |
| 17:16.59 | Xyphor | I didn't know there was Melee Hit Rating and Ranged Hit Rating... |
| 17:16.59 | cladhaire | Please stop misdiagnosing the issue.. Thaddius had immense amounts of issues with UNIT_AURA, not to mention the other problems. |
| 17:17.11 | cladhaire | Causality does not imply coorelation |
| 17:17.18 | Droolio | yea and i still have logs with addon messages in them |
| 17:17.18 | dylanm | Who's Thaddius? |
| 17:17.20 | nevcairiel | Yeah, Thaddius managed to cause issues in most unitframes, because of immense UNIT_AURA calls |
| 17:17.29 | dylanm | What, I guess is my question now. |
| 17:17.40 | dylanm | But that's |
| 17:17.41 | dylanm | Ohhh |
| 17:17.42 | nevcairiel | Thaddius was one boss in Naxxramas |
| 17:17.43 | nevcairiel | or is |
| 17:17.44 | dylanm | The Naxx guy? |
| 17:17.52 | cladhaire | its simple enough to test |
| 17:17.52 | markt__ | or will be :) |
| 17:17.55 | cladhaire | but DONT do it in Thaddius |
| 17:18.01 | cladhaire | take a controlled experiment, and figure it out |
| 17:18.02 | cladhaire | simple enough |
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| 17:18.12 | Droolio | anyway as i said, they should add a prefix register |
| 17:18.23 | Droolio | i don't see how that is in any way a bad thing |
| 17:18.24 | markt__ | that would be, as they say, cool |
| 17:18.33 | cladhaire | Droolio: SO SUGGEST IT :p |
| 17:18.34 | cladhaire | as I said |
| 17:18.38 | Droolio | and a proper addon-addon comms system |
| 17:18.40 | Droolio | i just did :) |
| 17:18.42 | cladhaire | no |
| 17:18.44 | balstor | cncfanatics log on and turns off |
| 17:18.46 | cladhaire | not here |
| 17:18.53 | cladhaire | wowace is not the wow forums, where slouken can respond |
| 17:19.05 | cladhaire | "proper addon-addon comms".. you still haevn't clarified what you want that you dont' have" |
| 17:19.17 | markt__ | i think Droolio is talking world-wide addon comms |
| 17:19.17 | Droolio | cladhaire: this discussion was brought up on a discussion of my addon |
| 17:19.29 | nevcairiel | if you want world addon-comm, forget it, was denied already |
| 17:19.33 | Droolio | yes because you barged in and started yapping about something i said :) |
| 17:19.34 | cladhaire | yeah denied. |
| 17:19.42 | cladhaire | that doesn't make it a "not-proper system" |
| 17:19.43 | cladhaire | well |
| 17:19.54 | cladhaire | you're making nasty broad claims abotu a system that actually works quite well |
| 17:19.58 | markt__ | don't really understand why that was denied when it can be done using a chat channel anyway |
| 17:19.59 | harldephin | any "hidden" message is still being processed, so why can't processing involve an add-on to recognise that message as a "send-no-message-myself" kind of trigger ? |
| 17:20.02 | cladhaire | you haven't proposed an alternative to the peopel that can actually make the change |
| 17:20.21 | Droolio | you don't even know what i mean by a proper addon-addon system since you haven't even asked! |
| 17:20.22 | nevcairiel | the change adding the register doesnt really change the comm system |
| 17:20.27 | cladhaire | Droolio: I've asked twice. |
| 17:20.28 | nevcairiel | it only limits the traffic |
| 17:20.28 | cladhaire | actually |
| 17:20.31 | cladhaire | you've refused to answer |
| 17:20.37 | cladhaire | read the logs |
| 17:20.42 | cladhaire | I'm saying teh following |
| 17:20.49 | cladhaire | 1.) If you have an idea like the register for prefix, then propose it to slouken |
| 17:20.52 | cladhaire | its a good idea, and would make sense |
| 17:20.56 | Droolio | no |
| 17:21.03 | Droolio | that's not what the discussion here is |
| 17:21.05 | cladhaire | 2.) Rather than sitting and making nasty claims about something "not being proper".. propose an alternative |
| 17:21.18 | cladhaire | State what you need, and suggest it |
| 17:21.23 | Droolio | stop barging into someone elses discussion on something irrelevent |
| 17:21.34 | Droolio | the register prefix thing was a side issue actually |
| 17:21.38 | cladhaire | regardless |
| 17:21.39 | cladhaire | its a good idea |
| 17:21.43 | cladhaire | propose it, is all i'm saying |
| 17:21.49 | Droolio | i was about to suggest a way for addons to communicate directly |
| 17:21.52 | Droolio | and not via guild/raid |
| 17:22.02 | nevcairiel | you can, via whisper :P |
| 17:22.02 | Droolio | i don't want to propose it |
| 17:22.11 | cladhaire | WHY NOT? |
| 17:22.15 | Droolio | i was discussing my addon and why it's not easy for the comms to work |
| 17:22.18 | Droolio | sigh |
| 17:22.23 | cladhaire | if we see a problem with the current system, its our responsibility to propose changes to things |
| 17:22.25 | cladhaire | they can't think of everything |
| 17:22.27 | cladhaire | fine, i'm done |
| 17:22.29 | Droolio | ok shut up for a minute |
| 17:22.45 | Droolio | I MAY WELL DO but that doesn't mean i can't discuss the pitfalls here :) |
| 17:23.15 | markt__ | anybody for popcorn? :-D |
| 17:23.15 | Droolio | it's good to get alternative input |
| 17:23.15 | Droolio | the problem with my addon is that it had to communicate with as many ppl on the server as possible |
| 17:23.20 | Droolio | otherwise the effectiveness suffers |
| 17:23.36 | Droolio | guild/raid is insufficient and ppl don't want to use chat channel slots |
| 17:23.44 | Droolio | as that is the only way to do the job currently |
| 17:23.55 | markt__ | personally, i wouldn't mind using a chat channel slot |
| 17:23.59 | Droolio | other than to write some really complicated p2p system involving direct whispers |
| 17:24.12 | markt__ | but, it should probably be opt-outable if people do |
| 17:24.17 | Droolio | yea i know markt__. that's why it's a backup for when you're on an unguilded alt |
| 17:24.23 | Droolio | kinda like the best of both worlds |
| 17:24.26 | markt__ | however, i would like to see it come with the chat channel enabled by default |
| 17:24.39 | Droolio | but guild/raid-only comms is insufficient |
| 17:24.41 | markt__ | or, allow me to enable it |
| 17:24.51 | markt__ | cos atm, as i am guilded, i can't :) |
| 17:25.09 | markt__ | it would be more effective if the chat channel was enabled by default, as many people wouldn't get round to disabling it |
| 17:25.13 | markt__ | so the sync would spread further |
| 17:25.21 | markt__ | people who really care about their chat channels would be able to, ofc |
| 17:25.29 | Droolio | you jump on an alt now and again tho? |
| 17:25.39 | Droolio | aye well that's my dilema too |
| 17:25.40 | markt__ | yeah, but they're all guilded but one |
| 17:25.55 | Droolio | coz ppl were reluctant to use the addon before due to the chat channel slot |
| 17:26.00 | Droolio | aha :) |
| 17:26.02 | markt__ | ah, i see |
| 17:26.04 | cladhaire | Of course it's good to get alternative input.. I'm not debating that here. Listen, I've gotten a ton of changes into WoW, and I know firsthand how those changes are best suggested. If you as an addon author see something that can be improved, its our responsibility to suggest the change and make things work in the most effective manner. |
| 17:26.08 | cladhaire | Yes, I know this is a tangent to your original problem, but the point still remains. It would solve one issue that you say you're having, and if nothing else would confirm or deny that the messages are actually sent to the client regardless of registration. |
| 17:26.11 | cladhaire | As for arbitrary faction-wide opt-in communication, this has already been turned down for a number of reasons, because N! is simply unacceptable for that many people, it would destroy the chat servers. |
| 17:26.13 | markt__ | does the sync work cross-character then? i imagined it would only work per session |
| 17:26.21 | markt__ | s/cross-character/cross-login/ |
| 17:26.29 | cladhaire | I don't find it necessary to re-state the two questions/points I've made above, because they still hold. Thanks for the dialogue. |
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| 17:28.12 | markt__ | cladhaire: doesn't arbitrary faction-wide opt-in communication already exist in the form of chat channels? |
| 17:28.35 | cladhaire | yes, and they discourage using them for large scale addon communication |
| 17:28.38 | cladhaire | for obvious reasons |
| 17:28.45 | markt__ | sure, fair enough |
| 17:29.14 | cladhaire | they are also throttled the same was as all the public channels, and they can't disable it without removing something that many guilds need to actually _work_ :P |
| 17:29.17 | cladhaire | such as guild alliances |
| 17:29.23 | cladhaire | look at Auctioneer |
| 17:29.33 | cladhaire | They may not agree with everythign it does, but an alternative was proposed |
| 17:29.37 | Droolio | cladhaire: i couldn't get blizzard to fix the 6-month long network connectivity issue i had with wow last year, i have no confidence in them listening to anything i say. plus i don't have access to the u.s. forums :) |
| 17:30.07 | cladhaire | Droolio: connectivity isn't a UI issue.. slouken is extremely responsive and a number of the community are able to reach him reliably. There are plenty of people who would post for you, if you have a good idea. |
| 17:30.11 | Droolio | i completely agree though that i could suggest it, but that doesn't prevent me from mentioning as one of the reasons why my addon isn't working as well as it could! |
| 17:30.22 | cladhaire | And now we have a new auction house API that helps the addons, and help the servers |
| 17:30.28 | cladhaire | Droolio: Understood, I was never fighting any of that |
| 17:30.52 | markt__ | cladhaire: ok, i take your point |
| 17:30.53 | cladhaire | but I personally have issues with someone seeing a problem, proposing a solution to the problem-- but not to the right people. We're the only way this whole thing improves :P |
| 17:31.27 | cladhaire | that's all! |
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| 17:32.39 | Droolio | i can't help that i see a problem and have thought of a solution and happen to mention it here. it's not a priority for me :) |
| 17:32.58 | Droolio | it would be pretty silly not to discuss it with others don't ya think? |
| 17:33.25 | markt__ | Droolio: ok, i have now looked at the Nauticus saved variables and see that each cycle is saved per account - which just means i have to grab a sync every few days, or go for a tour around arathor - cool :-) |
| 17:33.30 | Droolio | remember though, i only mention it in the context of why my particular addon suffers. maybe someone can suggest a workaround? |
| 17:34.25 | Droolio | markt__: aye, the same times should correspond to every realm too since they appear to be in sync |
| 17:35.03 | Droolio | as i mention, the rtt's are very well calibrated now. so there should be little drift even over a week or so |
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| 17:40.12 | markt__ | ah, if every realm is in sync, then there could be a central place to share data over the web... |
| 17:40.20 | Health | What's the icon for the Focus gem buff called? |
| 17:40.41 | Droolio | markt__: i think it may differ from datacentre to datacentre though... |
| 17:41.01 | markt__ | quite possibly - maybe each battlegroup will be the same or something |
| 17:41.06 | Droolio | from my experience, all e.u realms are in sync. all languages etc. |
| 17:41.28 | Varazir[NA] | I'm getting a alert msg from my arkinventory |
| 17:41.35 | Droolio | which server cluster do you use? u.s east etc.? |
| 17:41.42 | markt__ | me? EU :) |
| 17:41.48 | Droolio | aha. what server? |
| 17:41.51 | markt__ | Arathor |
| 17:42.10 | Varazir[NA] | Bug fix complete |
| 17:42.51 | Droolio | ok cool i'll make a note of that for some testing :) |
| 17:42.59 | markt__ | hehe, kk :) |
| 17:43.19 | Droolio | i've already made provisions for listening to whisper comms, just not sending |
| 17:43.50 | markt__ | excellent, i look forward to trying it out at some point :) |
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| 17:47.01 | CIA-41 | 03xyphor * r56184 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: added Attack Speed |
| 17:47.21 | Xyphor | There you go kergoth :) |
| 17:49.36 | kergoth | nice, thanks |
| 17:50.01 | cncfanatics | balstor, pinged me ? |
| 17:50.25 | sb | Xyphor: screenshot? :p |
| 17:51.01 | sb | haha |
| 17:51.04 | sb | Xyphor: nice :) |
| 17:51.43 | Xyphor | yeah yeah, I will make screenshot :) |
| 17:52.27 | sb | nvm, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PowerDisplay |
| 17:52.27 | sb | :) |
| 17:52.58 | Xyphor | That's old one |
| 17:53.14 | sb | oh okay, then gief screenshot! :o |
| 17:54.12 | Xyphor | F5 |
| 17:54.50 | sb | *install* |
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| 17:55.51 | sb | Xyphor: does it already have some sort of stance detection? ;) |
| 17:55.59 | SunTsu | Xyphor: What's the basic difference to DrDamage? |
| 17:56.26 | sb | shadowform -> shadow damage, no shadowform -> healing |
| 17:56.44 | Xyphor | sb: no, sorry |
| 17:57.01 | Xyphor | Xyphor: I will look up DrDamage first... |
| 17:58.07 | Xyphor | Seems like DrDamage add lines to spells and items? |
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| 17:59.09 | SunTsu | Xyphor: It does. And, if you use bongos or bartender, it shows the crunched numbers on the icons |
| 17:59.50 | sb | Xyphor: wtb "mana reg" (casting/not casting) as secondary text ('skill'?) :) |
| 17:59.53 | Xyphor | PowerDisplay is a frame with totals, not per item or spell |
| 18:00.43 | cncfanatics | SunTsu, not only with bongos or BT tbh |
| 18:01.01 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Without it never did it for me |
| 18:01.01 | sb | Xyphor: but config setting is called 'skill' |
| 18:01.15 | cncfanatics | SunTsu, works with FB, infinibar and a few others too |
| 18:01.17 | Xyphor | I know, that was the original idea :p |
| 18:01.35 | sb | yes - but mana regen would fit in there :) |
| 18:01.58 | Xyphor | sb: agree, already working on that |
| 18:02.07 | sb | nice :) |
| 18:02.11 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: OK, I should have made it more general, right. That were mere examples |
| 18:02.28 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: It never did it with the deafult UI was what I meant |
| 18:03.14 | cncfanatics | ah |
| 18:03.24 | cncfanatics | no idea for default UI so :p |
| 18:03.29 | Gagorian | It supports default UI though :P |
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| 18:04.02 | Gagorian | Unless blizzard has changed something, I don't usually check. |
| 18:04.22 | Gagorian | I just make sure it works with BT3 and users can tell me the rest, there's enough changes to do at patch time already |
| 18:04.32 | SunTsu | After switching to bartender I found out that infinibar broke my default UI, so, maybe that was a side effect |
| 18:04.55 | Gagorian | Well, if you have any custom AB addon loaded, it won't put anything on default bars |
| 18:05.01 | Gagorian | Unless you specifically put it on in the options |
| 18:05.01 | SunTsu | infinibar did hinder bartender3 to hide blizz UI |
| 18:05.25 | Gagorian | There's a certain loading order and it picks the "best choice" of that list to put the numbers on. |
| 18:05.28 | SunTsu | Gagorian: Ah, that could be the reason |
| 18:05.40 | Gagorian | So, if you have infinibar loaded then there's no numbers on default UI unless you check that option in the config |
| 18:05.50 | Gagorian | BT3 on the other hand takes priority over infinibar |
| 18:05.55 | SunTsu | I just used infinibar as some kind of macro bar |
| 18:06.15 | Gagorian | Hrmm I see. |
| 18:06.17 | SunTsu | Gagorian: OK, sounds reasonable. |
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| 18:12.45 | cncfanatics | sounds silly tbh |
| 18:12.51 | cncfanatics | it should add stuff to all buttons on screen |
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| 18:15.37 | Xyphor | Mana Regen is NOT easy |
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| 18:28.02 | CIA-41 | 03celellach * r56185 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (GeneralPvP.en.lua sets.en.lua): |
| 18:28.02 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 18:28.02 | CIA-41 | - Fixed an item ID |
| 18:28.02 | CIA-41 | - Added some missing prices |
| 18:28.02 | CIA-41 | - Moved the Arena and PvP sets from the sets file to the GeneralPvP file |
| 18:32.01 | CIA-41 | 03celellach * r56186 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 18:32.01 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 18:32.01 | CIA-41 | - small reorder |
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| 18:34.39 | Pkekyo| | is there any /command I can use to interact with an NPC? there's a heap of huge fucking cows standing on it >.< |
| 18:35.20 | Paene | shift+v |
| 18:35.27 | Paene | then right-click the NPC's health bar |
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| 18:35.51 | Xyphor | sb: any ideas for mana regen? |
| 18:36.19 | Pkekyo| | Paene: won't work for some reason... |
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| 18:44.21 | KarlThePagan | Pkekyo|, are you using a floating bar mod of some kind? |
| 18:44.28 | KarlThePagan | it works for aloft |
| 18:44.36 | KarlThePagan | you might be out of range |
| 18:45.13 | kaiden|work | for i the wanderer walked into the world looking for interesting things to eat *SNARFLE* |
| 18:45.27 | kaiden|work | medication is yummy |
| 18:45.28 | kaiden|work | lol |
| 18:45.51 | Paene | You may have unbinded shift+v maybe? Try going into the Interface and check "Show NPC Nameplates" or something along those lines |
| 18:45.56 | Paene | *unbound |
| 18:46.03 | Paene | I R ENGLISH GOOD SPEAKER |
| 18:46.32 | Pkekyo| | KarlThePagan: using aloft...dunno why it's not working...might've unbinded shift+v |
| 18:46.45 | Paene | ^^ |
| 18:46.50 | KarlThePagan | well that's a different problem |
| 18:47.06 | KarlThePagan | you can open your aloft config and disable all the overhead bars except for NPC's |
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| 18:47.17 | KarlThePagan | so unless there are 100 pets there it will help |
| 18:48.00 | Pkekyo| | well, I just got aloft for the enemy nameplates tbh....easier to kill allies :) |
| 18:49.39 | Pkekyo| | easier to find allies to kill* |
| 18:49.49 | Pkekyo| | oh sod it, I'll just verbally harass the cows |
| 18:50.08 | Xuerian | Cow-lipping? |
| 18:50.21 | KarlThePagan | i swear it will only take you 10 seconds to find it in your aloft config |
| 18:50.24 | Pkekyo| | you make it sound so dirty :< |
| 18:50.39 | KarlThePagan | or your wow client config |
| 18:51.18 | Pkekyo| | you're probably right :) |
| 18:51.32 | Pkekyo| | just can't be arsed to do it on all my 10 chars xD |
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| 18:53.52 | Pkekyo| | is there any tool that can duplicate an entire UI config from one char to another? |
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| 18:55.20 | kergoth | you mean like 'cp', 'copy', or drag & drop in explorer? |
| 18:55.23 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:55.45 | Pkekyo| | cp? |
| 18:56.08 | harldephin | is there a way to find out the total amount of data transfered by wow? |
| 18:56.25 | harldephin | in-game |
| 18:56.26 | Pkekyo| | copy/paste works to _some_extent_.... but alot of shit gets fuckedup as well when attempting that |
| 18:56.26 | Paene | cp = terminal commandfor copy |
| 18:57.14 | kergoth | Pkekyo|: i do it all the time. the only thing that breaks is if an addon has character specific settings that arent in a per character SV, which is pretty rare nowadays. |
| 18:58.22 | Pkekyo| | kergoth: I've tried it alot, but about 30% of my addons goes tits up |
| 18:59.43 | kergoth | well i dunno what to tell you, to fix those you'd likely have to copy chunks of their savedvariables lua files |
| 18:59.49 | kergoth | fun fun |
| 19:00.19 | NeoTron | so looking at the combat log it seems I am not casting spells every 2.5s when chain casting SB.. so I wonder if /stopcasting still would be needed for optimal performance |
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| 19:01.56 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.49 | NeoTron | ah |
| 19:02.51 | NeoTron | I know that |
| 19:02.53 | NeoTron | however |
| 19:03.04 | NeoTron | looking at the combat log there's a significantly higher delay than 2.5s between casts |
| 19:03.25 | NeoTron | like 150-250 ms |
| 19:03.54 | Pkekyo| | ahah, my entire guild hates me for putting Fiery enchant on Fool's Bane and Fury :p |
| 19:04.08 | Paene | Wouldn't the combat log have a small delay updating after a spellcast? Could that be it? |
| 19:04.29 | Paene | the spell goes through with lag handled, but not the combat log |
| 19:04.36 | NeoTron | delayed, sure but event between log entries |
| 19:04.52 | NeoTron | delayu between entries should be fine, even if it'slogged 300 ms later |
| 19:05.09 | Paene | hm... |
| 19:05.11 | CIA-41 | 03celellach * r56187 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:05.11 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:05.11 | CIA-41 | - Replaced some of our lines with the Babble ones |
| 19:05.11 | CIA-41 | - Updated Release notes |
| 19:05.22 | Paene | meh, to DrBoom! |
| 19:05.33 | Paene | wonder if it's a known bug |
| 19:05.57 | balstor | cncfanatics you here? |
| 19:06.54 | cncfanatics | I am balstor |
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| 19:08.59 | kebinusan | snowfall GY still takes 5 minutes to cap, capping should probably be updated if anyone on here atm manages that |
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| 19:12.13 | RaydenUni | morning |
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| 19:16.48 | Xuerian | 'mornin |
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| 19:22.22 | Varazir[NA] | I'm using Hourglass, dose anyone know how to conf it ? |
| 19:24.49 | [Horde]Tricksy | what timeframe are they planning the expansion for atm, Q1? |
| 19:25.29 | Tornhoof | more like q2 i'd say |
| 19:25.42 | [Horde]Tricksy | good :p |
| 19:25.43 | NeoTron | I will compare: timed /stopcasting, spam cast button key and timed cast button with quarts (but not spamming or /stopcasting) |
| 19:25.46 | NeoTron | see if there's a difference |
| 19:27.09 | Varazir[NA] | anyone ? |
| 19:27.51 | dylanm | Varazir[NA]: /hourglass |
| 19:29.21 | Varazir[NA] | hehe sorry should have tested that :P |
| 19:30.44 | Varazir[NA] | thanks |
| 19:33.44 | markt__ | Xyphor: unless you know of a better way now, i think the only way to get MP5 is to tooltip scan |
| 19:34.00 | markt__ | and add that to MP5 for spirit |
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| 19:37.56 | JoshBorke | MP5 is shown on the character screen |
| 19:38.44 | markt___ | isn't that MP5 from spirit though? |
| 19:39.13 | leech2k | its both I htink |
| 19:39.30 | markt___ | i guess the code should be in PaperDoll then |
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| 19:39.57 | leech2k | Actually I am sure the character screen is mp5 + spirit rege(if u have talent) |
| 19:40.14 | leech2k | cause my character screen went up like 55 mp5 |
| 19:40.17 | leech2k | with patch |
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| 19:43.42 | markt___ | ah, yeah, i was thinking of the spirit mouseover |
| 19:44.06 | markt___ | not the mana regen mouseover |
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| 19:44.10 | Paene | character screen shows mp5 from spirit and mp5 |
| 19:44.14 | Paene | er |
| 19:44.19 | Paene | regen from spirit and mp5 |
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| 19:49.10 | markt___ | lol, looks like it's as simple as calling... GetManaRegen() :) |
| 19:50.02 | markt___ | returns float, float - mana regen per second for base and non-casting |
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| 19:51.59 | Gagorian | You just have to remember that will include stuff like when you're sitting and drinking |
| 19:52.06 | Gagorian | That mana regen will be included |
| 19:52.44 | markt___ | how do you mean? |
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| 19:54.08 | markt___ | i'm using thsi to test: /script local base, casting = GetManaRegen(); DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Base: "..base.. " Casting:"..casting) |
| 19:54.17 | markt___ | you think the result will be different if i do that while i'm drinking? |
| 19:54.19 | dylanm__ | Or any sort of buffs, yeah... spirit tap, blah blah |
| 19:54.38 | JoshBorke | i KNOW it will be different |
| 19:55.35 | markt___ | hehe :) |
| 19:55.41 | markt___ | i suppose in Xyphor's case that is no bad thing tho |
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| 19:58.00 | kadrahil | Message: ..\AddOns\Grid\GridCore.lua line 156: |
| 19:58.01 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.18 | kadrahil | ^ happened when changing profiles from default to current player |
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| 19:58.46 | CIA-41 | 03ackis * r56188 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-enUS.lua: |
| 19:58.46 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:58.46 | CIA-41 | - Update for alchemy potion |
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| 20:01.01 | RaydenUni | is there a page with the costs of the season1 gear? |
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| 20:01.57 | nevcairiel | mmo-champion should list all that |
| 20:02.08 | Bibi | Great site, I like it. |
| 20:02.30 | RaydenUni | i thought i saw a post on wowinsider but i can't find it now |
| 20:02.59 | Bibi | the post on wowinsider was a link to Curse, hosting a bad copy paste of the mmo-champion news. |
| 20:03.36 | winkiller | hehe |
| 20:03.45 | winkiller | Bibi you meanie! don't insult the copypasters |
| 20:03.52 | Bibi | well |
| 20:03.57 | Bibi | they listed mmo-champion as the source |
| 20:04.05 | Bibi | but they copy pasted errors, I don't really know how they managed to do that |
| 20:04.12 | Bibi | I wouldn't mind if it was a clean one :p |
| 20:04.31 | RaydenUni | the info i find on mmo champion isn't too nice |
| 20:04.55 | RaydenUni | unless it's somewhere else |
| 20:07.13 | Xyphor | OMG! I have Mana Regen working, but didn't realise it |
| 20:07.16 | RaydenUni | looks like wowhead hasn't updated |
| 20:07.25 | Xyphor | since blizzard did it in SECONDS instead of per 5... |
| 20:08.26 | RaydenUni | which battlegrounds can you use flying mounts? |
| 20:08.37 | leech2k | if you are still looking for s1 prices I beleive they were up at worldofraids.com a couple weeks ago |
| 20:08.48 | leech2k | RaydenUni: none |
| 20:09.01 | RaydenUni | interesting |
| 20:09.12 | Bibi | [21:06:09] <RaydenUni> the info i find on mmo champion isn't too nice |
| 20:09.18 | Bibi | there are prices for all armors and all weapons |
| 20:09.22 | RaydenUni | link |
| 20:09.23 | leech2k | Xyphor: I think its per "ticks" which is like 3 seconds. |
| 20:09.24 | Bibi | what else do you need ? :/ |
| 20:09.32 | Bibi | homepage ? :/ |
| 20:09.34 | RaydenUni | formatting |
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| 20:09.45 | Xyphor | Nope, if I do *5 it's the same as on my char page... |
| 20:09.56 | leech2k | ah cool |
| 20:10.17 | RaydenUni | all i see is the screenshot |
| 20:10.19 | Xyphor | well... 116 on my char page, 117 on *5. They count it downward after the . |
| 20:11.00 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/26/season-1-prices-revisited-as-items-go-on-sale-tomorrow/ <-- here we go |
| 20:11.22 | RaydenUni | where do you go for EOTS? |
| 20:12.01 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 20:12.03 | RaydenUni | no physical entrance |
| 20:12.14 | RaydenUni | where do you buy water and food for it? |
| 20:12.23 | Xyphor | Blizz thinks 116.5 should be rounded as 116 |
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| 20:14.27 | RaydenUni | know what i want? |
| 20:14.41 | RaydenUni | a way to see what guildmembers are on before i log on to a character |
| 20:15.03 | kadrahil | RaydenUni: eots battlemasters in any battlemaster room |
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| 20:19.40 | NightHawkAtWork | oh man, xkcd is so full of win today |
| 20:19.45 | CIA-41 | 03xyphor * r56189 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: added Mana Regeneration |
| 20:19.48 | RaydenUni | virus? |
| 20:20.20 | Xyphor | markt__: ty for that code :) |
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| 20:27.03 | RaydenUni | where do you buy water for EOTS? |
| 20:28.30 | RaydenUni | or where do you even buy the rewards? |
| 20:29.02 | JoshBorke | i don't think there are any |
| 20:29.30 | RaydenUni | so as a caster, just drink normal drinks? |
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| 20:31.30 | Amadeo | where is the combat log range stored? |
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| 20:32.09 | Civrock | Config.wtf |
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| 20:32.38 | Amadeo | hah, that's easy enough |
| 20:33.10 | Amadeo | what's default? |
| 20:33.31 | NeoTron | 40yrd or something? |
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| 20:33.57 | Amadeo | so I guess this is in yards? ok! |
| 20:34.33 | Amadeo | thank yas |
| 20:34.41 | NeoTron | I think so |
| 20:34.44 | NeoTron | but it's virtual yards |
| 20:34.46 | NeoTron | :) |
| 20:34.49 | NeoTron | or meters |
| 20:34.58 | NeoTron | I am not sure what wow uses and it's not like it matters :P |
| 20:36.56 | kenlyric | 40 yards is the range on most healing spells. figure it out from there. |
| 20:37.19 | kenlyric | and yeah, in WoW 1 meter = 1 yard :) |
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| 20:39.26 | Antiarc | Bibi: Ping |
| 20:39.42 | Bibi | Damn. |
| 20:39.45 | Bibi | Will do it now |
| 20:39.48 | Bibi | totally forgot about it |
| 20:39.48 | Bibi | :/ |
| 20:40.06 | Bibi | (Yeah we don't actually have to talk) |
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| 20:43.36 | Hotphoenix | could someone add a check for mages without salv 'tanking' in threat, the warnings are bugging the hell outta me on council^^ |
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| 20:46.29 | NightHawkAtWork | turn them off? :P |
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| 20:47.09 | Ackis | anyone here use tortoise svn? |
| 20:47.26 | NightHawkAtWork | many, yes. |
| 20:47.52 | Ackis | I did the checkout w/o externals, however everytime i do an update it pulls the externals down into hte libs folder |
| 20:48.45 | Fisker- | do what huh Bibi? |
| 20:48.52 | many | NightHawkAtWork: yes?? |
| 20:48.56 | Bibi | you don't want to know, seriously :( |
| 20:49.07 | NightHawkAtWork | many: have a less common name. :D |
| 20:49.14 | many | -:D |
| 20:49.18 | many | i like it |
| 20:49.37 | Ackis | many people have it though hahahha |
| 20:49.44 | NightHawkAtWork | Ackis: well, glancing at tortoise quickly, if you do "Update to revision" there's a checkbox there to omit externals |
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| 20:50.24 | Ackis | ahh, I've just been doing a standard "update" |
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| 20:51.34 | Provus | Hey, does anyone know about this? I've been having an odd problem with my interface as of late where sometimes my left or right click on the world frame isn't recognized, it's happened on multiple spots but I can't seem to replicate it, it only happens once, every once in a while. |
| 20:51.41 | Provus | It's really weird. |
| 20:53.08 | Provus | I thought it was the zone tab at first but it doesn't seem to be. |
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| 20:54.50 | Provus | Guess not. |
| 20:56.28 | Cryect | Sounds like an invisible frame in those spots |
| 20:56.49 | Cryect | Get an addon that lets you see what frame is under the mouse and that might identify the issue |
| 20:58.37 | Provus | I thought it was. |
| 20:58.40 | Provus | But like I said |
| 20:58.43 | Provus | I can't replicate it |
| 20:58.54 | Provus | And I've tried move it |
| 21:00.22 | Provus | Is there some way to outline all frames on the screen? |
| 21:00.28 | Provus | Invisible and not? |
| 21:02.21 | Ackis | so I'm talking to a gm right now... apparently telling them that "you want to talk to someone who isn't useless and makes more than minimum wage" is the way to get refered to a supervisor |
| 21:04.12 | Cryect | Sure you could go through and set a border on all the frames would take a while to parse through them all but doable |
| 21:04.36 | Cryect | and could check for ones that are actually mouse enabled as well |
| 21:05.12 | Paene | Ackis: Brilliant! |
| 21:05.38 | Ackis | meh, it's kinda mean |
| 21:05.56 | Ackis | funny, but still mean |
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| 21:10.32 | Pkekyo| | yay, just got DPS chest off 2nd boss in ZA :) |
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| 21:11.08 | Ackis | ohh chucknorris facts has been updated... hmmmm |
| 21:11.32 | Ackis | fyi pirate speak + chuck norris facts = hours of win |
| 21:12.54 | Pkekyo| | no....simply no... |
| 21:12.55 | Pkekyo| | NO |
| 21:12.58 | Pkekyo| | N |
| 21:12.58 | Pkekyo| | O |
| 21:12.59 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 21:13.25 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:14.06 | Ackis | I wonder if we need an ace version of those two mods... |
| 21:14.37 | Pkekyo| | die, please |
| 21:14.43 | Pkekyo| | before you cause the world any more harm |
| 21:14.59 | Ackis | lmao |
| 21:15.00 | Pkekyo| | the chuck norris fact crap got way too old, way too fast |
| 21:15.16 | Ackis | oh the only good thing about the chuck norris stuff is seeing peoples reactions to it |
| 21:15.27 | Ackis | if it doesn't piss someone off, it's not funny |
| 21:15.40 | Pkekyo| | diaf |
| 21:16.20 | Ackis | see, it's funny |
| 21:16.27 | Paene | I'm gonna make it Aced! |
| 21:16.43 | Paene | actually, I'd probably have to kill myself if I did |
| 21:16.44 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
| 21:16.45 | Gnarfoz | scope owns me |
| 21:16.48 | Ackis | in the description the mod should say that it's ACED |
| 21:17.21 | Gnarfoz | basic Lua stuff ;D I'm trying to substract a value from a variable inside a for loop... but the variable isn't saved through iterations of the loop |
| 21:17.25 | Gnarfoz | what gives? |
| 21:17.26 | Ackis | notice the capitalization ;) |
| 21:17.28 | Pkekyo| | Paene: no, you wouldn't, I would track you down and do it for you |
| 21:17.52 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.58 | Paene | Pkekyo: We could turn it into a race...who could kill me first?! |
| 21:17.59 | Gnarfoz | outside |
| 21:18.01 | JoshBorke | Gnarfoz: did you confirm the for loop runs? |
| 21:18.32 | Gnarfoz | meaning? if it runs at all? yes it iterates through as many times as it should |
| 21:18.48 | Gnarfoz | (I did a dummy print(i) to check ^^) |
| 21:19.17 | Gnarfoz | it fits on one line, so: t={1000,100,10,1}; a=9451; for k,v in ipairs(t) do a=a-(a%v); print(a/v) end |
| 21:19.32 | Pkekyo| | Paene: I'd bet I could beat you |
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| 21:19.46 | Paene | lol |
| 21:20.00 | Gnarfoz | a=9451 is outside the loop, so it shouldn't be local to the loop |
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| 21:20.22 | JoshBorke | lua> t={1000,100,10,1}; a=9451; for k,v in ipairs(t) do a=a-(a%v); print(a/v) end |
| 21:20.22 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 9, 90, 900, 9000 |
| 21:20.34 | JoshBorke | lua> t={1000,100,10,1}; a=9451; for k,v in ipairs(t) do a=a-(a%v); print(a/v) end print(a) |
| 21:20.34 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 9, 90, 900, 9000, 9000 |
| 21:21.17 | Gnarfoz | purpose of it all: return 9, 4, 5, 1 |
| 21:21.40 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 21:21.44 | JoshBorke | lua> t={1000,100,10,1}; a=9451; for k,v in ipairs(t) do a=a-(v*a%v) print(a/v) end print(a) |
| 21:21.44 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 9.451, 94.51, 945.1, 9451, 9451 |
| 21:22.14 | JoshBorke | lua> t={1000,100,10,1}; a=9451; for k,v in ipairs(t) do a=a-(v*(a%v)) print(a/v) end print(a) |
| 21:22.14 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: -441.549, -4466.49, -44665.9, -446659, -446659 |
| 21:22.31 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 21:23.03 | JoshBorke | lua> t={1000,100,10,1}; a=9451; for k,v in ipairs(t) do local b = a%v print(b) end print(a) |
| 21:23.03 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 451, 51, 1, 0, 9451 |
| 21:23.19 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 21:23.47 | Gnarfoz | ok, why does that work better? :D |
| 21:23.54 | Cryect | wtf are you doing? |
| 21:24.01 | Gnarfoz | failing? |
| 21:24.02 | RaydenUni | lame |
| 21:24.05 | Gnarfoz | spamming you all? :> |
| 21:24.13 | RaydenUni | i was playing EOTS and we were winning then i got disconnected, but i quickly rejoined |
| 21:24.15 | RaydenUni | lost all my honor |
| 21:26.24 | rubik | better than getting disconnected with 10% HP left on Van in AV and not being able to re-log on for 5 mins (i.e. long after your AV is done) |
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| 21:28.37 | RaydenUni | i guess |
| 21:28.43 | RaydenUni | i got 200honor and 3 marks instead of ~500 honor |
| 21:28.54 | RaydenUni | i'm surprised at how useful i am |
| 21:29.01 | RaydenUni | i never played much battlegrounds with my priest |
| 21:29.03 | NightHawkAtWork | 200 honor and 3 marks is better than nothing. :P |
| 21:29.10 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 21:29.14 | RaydenUni | i joined another game right as it finished |
| 21:29.20 | RaydenUni | i was hoping i'd get the marks but no luck :P |
| 21:29.52 | RaydenUni | why does the wow site have no info on EOTS rewards? |
| 21:30.27 | rubik | in my battlegroup, horde (my side) is retarded and can never win EOTS.. or WSG.. AB is 50-50%.. AV is 95-5% horde.. (even after 2.3) |
| 21:30.43 | rubik | so pvp dailies really suck since if it's not AV, we're screwed |
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| 21:31.45 | Gngsk | RaydenUni, there are no EOTS rewards |
| 21:32.39 | Paene | is there an Ace based dmg/healing meter? |
| 21:32.52 | Paene | SW Stats eats up way too much memory |
| 21:32.52 | Chompers | Recount |
| 21:32.58 | Chompers | Violation |
| 21:33.12 | Gngsk | if you don't like the fact that swstats uses so much mem you should prolly get violation |
| 21:33.21 | Paene | is it accurate? |
| 21:33.23 | leech2k | I tried recount, but lended up back with sw-stats :-( |
| 21:33.31 | Gngsk | recount uses a lot of mem too |
| 21:33.41 | Gngsk | violation uses a lot less, but has slightly less indepth reports |
| 21:33.46 | Gngsk | assessment is somewhere in between |
| 21:33.48 | leech2k | I have not tried Violation though. |
| 21:34.05 | leech2k | But, meh memory is cheap right? |
| 21:34.07 | Paene | Just looking for something to give accurate effective healing and damage |
| 21:34.25 | Paene | lol memory is cheap when you're not a poor college student :) |
| 21:34.25 | leech2k | Use wws imo. |
| 21:34.41 | Paene | we do |
| 21:34.49 | Gngsk | yeah, because it's really convenient to check out wws pareses in game |
| 21:34.56 | Paene | lol |
| 21:34.58 | rubik | haha |
| 21:34.59 | Paene | exactly |
| 21:35.15 | leech2k | Smartass :-) |
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| 21:37.26 | Pkekyo| | tactics on the 6-mob pull before Halazzi in ZA? |
| 21:37.43 | V1c1ous | Tank elders, aoe cubs |
| 21:37.55 | V1c1ous | Is how we usually do it |
| 21:38.26 | Gngsk | Pkekyo|, you mean the pulls in his room? |
| 21:38.36 | V1c1ous | oh |
| 21:38.38 | rubik | 4-pull only, no? |
| 21:38.44 | rubik | and a 2-pat |
| 21:38.46 | V1c1ous | aye, it is |
| 21:38.47 | Gngsk | they're 2 seperate 3 pulls |
| 21:38.57 | rubik | or yeah.. 2 3's or something |
| 21:39.25 | Pkekyo| | Gngsk: yes, there's two groups of three mobs |
| 21:39.39 | Pkekyo| | ranged pull then? |
| 21:39.41 | Gngsk | they're not linked |
| 21:39.51 | V1c1ous | aye, can pull them without worries |
| 21:40.11 | rubik | pull them all the way back out.. 3 pull, 3 pull, 2 pull (pat that goes around room inside) |
| 21:42.02 | Pkekyo| | thanks, saved my arse on that one :) |
| 21:42.09 | Pkekyo| | we were about to pull both groups |
| 21:42.17 | rubik | now the fun begins.. heh |
| 21:42.30 | thul | http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2006/januar/1136203217.86 |
| 21:42.36 | thul | for those who read norse |
| 21:42.41 | rubik | i (bear tank) ate a 14k saber lash all by myself on the first try last night |
| 21:42.47 | Paene | Does violation have an option to restrict recording information to in-combat only? |
| 21:42.50 | rubik | (i screwed up, i mean) |
| 21:42.59 | Pkekyo| | how'd you do tha trubik? |
| 21:43.11 | Pkekyo| | I haven't read taccs on this fight >.< never expected to get this far |
| 21:43.27 | rubik | i guess i was 2 milimeters off while walking on top of the warrior tank as we engaged |
| 21:43.40 | rubik | supposed to stand right on top of each other to split up the dmg |
| 21:44.48 | Pkekyo| | ah, it's the same as Nalorak? |
| 21:45.26 | Pkekyo| | thul: what's the article about? |
| 21:45.33 | Pkekyo| | can't be arsed to read it all |
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| 21:52.15 | markt___ | off the top of their head, does anybody know an addon which will put cooldown countdown on buttons? |
| 21:52.38 | JoshBorke | markt__: omnicc |
| 21:52.41 | CIA-41 | 03rodrick * r56190 10NazGuildRecruiter/ (Core.lua NazGuildRecruiter.toc): |
| 21:52.41 | CIA-41 | NazGuildRecruiter: |
| 21:52.41 | CIA-41 | - Added auto channel discovery/join Guildrecruitment channel if cityspam is selected |
| 21:52.41 | CIA-41 | - updated version number |
| 21:53.02 | markt___ | JoshBorke: ty, i will give it a try :) |
| 21:54.16 | kebinusan | is there a way to disable voice chat in wow, like stop it from trying to control the device cause it seems to want to even if its disabled |
| 21:56.15 | NightHawkAtWork | kebinusan: disable it in the options window? |
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| 21:56.37 | kebinusan | yeah it still grabs the input my second sound card which screws with vent |
| 21:57.13 | Ktwo | kebi are you using vista? |
| 21:58.05 | kebinusan | linux |
| 21:58.07 | kebinusan | heh |
| 21:58.17 | Ktwo | ah ok^ |
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| 22:05.26 | Gnarfoz | JoshBorke: yay it werx now |
| 22:05.29 | Gnarfoz | lua> t={1000,100,10,1}; a=9451; for k,v in ipairs(t) do b=a; a=a%v; print((b-a)/v) end |
| 22:05.30 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: 9, 4, 5, 1 |
| 22:05.51 | JoshBorke | there you go |
| 22:05.58 | JoshBorke | i knew you'd figure it out |
| 22:06.17 | Gnarfoz | sadly the guy who originally asked in another channel is already offline because he figured it out by "trial and error" |
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| 22:09.28 | aestil | is there hard number theorycrafting on fire v. arcane for mages? |
| 22:09.50 | Gngsk | so if you wipe on BM heroic do you get to try again? |
| 22:09.52 | Gngsk | or is that it |
| 22:11.27 | Paene | Anyone else getting an error from agUF concerning a localization? |
| 22:11.42 | Paene | er |
| 22:11.42 | Paene | wait |
| 22:11.47 | Paene | it's from AtlasLoot |
| 22:12.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Gngsk: if medivh dies, he will respawn in ~5-10 minutes and you can start over |
| 22:12.20 | Gngsk | k, thx |
| 22:12.37 | NightHawkAtWork | if you wipe, and your competant enough, you can run back and prevent medivh frrom dying in the first place |
| 22:13.33 | Xyphor | Gngsk: Medivh dies maximal 3 times, then it's just over for today |
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| 22:15.04 | rubik | when did the haste nerf occur? 2.2? or 2.3? |
| 22:15.23 | Xuerian | Dammit, where's tuller when you need him |
| 22:15.25 | Xuerian | ~seen tuller |
| 22:15.34 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 22h 57m 49s ago, saying: 'or whatever the hell its called now :P'. |
| 22:15.34 | CIA-41 | 03ascalia * r56191 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 22:15.34 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 22:15.34 | CIA-41 | - updated Arena S3 Weapons |
| 22:15.35 | rubik | cause i think RatingBuster is still using the old formula and showing the higher haste % converted from the rating value |
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| 22:16.10 | Xuerian | Wouldn't that be ItemValue or StatBonusLib? |
| 22:16.24 | rubik | prolly statbonuslib? hmm |
| 22:16.41 | rubik | statlogiclib? |
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| 22:17.50 | kadrahil | JoshBorke is a noob |
| 22:18.05 | JoshBorke | it's true |
| 22:18.13 | CIA-41 | 03ascalia * r56192 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 22:18.13 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 22:18.13 | CIA-41 | - cosmetic change |
| 22:18.15 | JoshBorke | i'm trying to farm 31 primal fires |
| 22:18.20 | JoshBorke | i'm up to 6 |
| 22:18.22 | kadrahil | i will need to farm 500 |
| 22:18.25 | kadrahil | for my epic |
| 22:18.35 | kadrahil | i think i can manage 10 a day |
| 22:18.56 | JoshBorke | i can handle about a 30 minute session before i want to gouge out my eyes |
| 22:19.01 | kadrahil | haha |
| 22:19.07 | kadrahil | just go watch a movie while you farm |
| 22:19.32 | kadrahil | what i do is let my pet attack and afk autoshot and browse atlasloot and oogle at S3 gear |
| 22:19.39 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 22:19.42 | rubik | hmm.. StatLogicLib has the correct rating i think.. with 2.2 commented in |
| 22:20.21 | JoshBorke | not as easy on a priest =P |
| 22:22.28 | aestil | JoshBorke: question. dot + trinket. do active dots get +dmg boost from trinket? |
| 22:22.42 | JoshBorke | aestil: no |
| 22:23.02 | JoshBorke | aestil: dot +damage is wholly determined at the time of application |
| 22:23.39 | aestil | JoshBorke: so, Dot's applied mid trinket, when they will run out long time after trinket runs out... get +dmg, even when trinket effect is off? |
| 22:23.48 | JoshBorke | aestil: correct |
| 22:23.55 | aestil | i'm not sure if i like that. |
| 22:24.03 | Paene | tis always been that way :) |
| 22:24.13 | JoshBorke | why wouldn't you like that? |
| 22:24.25 | JoshBorke | that's why you can (and should) cast 2 VT's while icon is popped |
| 22:24.36 | Paene | it's kinda OP for pvp :-/ |
| 22:24.37 | Obelixprime | the real question is the delay in the dots reapplied less than the damage granted by recasting the dot |
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| 22:33.35 | kd3 | new PTR client! current build: 7655. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 22:34.01 | kadrahil | :X |
| 22:34.23 | kadrahil | do we have to copy our toons over to the ptr again if we did before 2.3 went live? |
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| 22:35.43 | NightHawkAtWork | yes |
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| 22:37.47 | Industrial | can I change a frame's "Z index" ? I need it to be on top of everything |
| 22:38.17 | Industrial | (its like a fubar that pops out when you mouseover the top pixel/unit of your screen) |
| 22:38.36 | Antiarc | Yes, frame strata and level |
| 22:38.54 | Antiarc | Strata is the "layer", level is the z-index in that layer |
| 22:39.37 | Ozguli- | mmkay |
| 22:39.45 | Ozguli- | I need something cooler |
| 22:39.50 | Ozguli- | more binds |
| 22:39.56 | Ozguli- | but my kb doesn't allow that |
| 22:40.06 | Ozguli- | can only have... 4 more functions on mouse |
| 22:40.14 | Ozguli- | and m3 doesn't work properly |
| 22:40.18 | kadrahil | does the dragonspine trophy proc off ranged attacks still? |
| 22:40.24 | KarlThePagan | are you still using 1-0 Ozguli- ? |
| 22:40.31 | KarlThePagan | i.e. 1234567890? |
| 22:40.36 | Ozguli- | not that much |
| 22:40.46 | Ozguli- | 1234 and that's about it |
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| 22:40.58 | KarlThePagan | I use 12345qerfzxc |
| 22:40.59 | Ozguli- | with shit and control |
| 22:41.05 | KarlThePagan | with sift and control |
| 22:41.08 | KarlThePagan | *shift |
| 22:41.10 | Ozguli- | qe for strafing, I need them actually |
| 22:41.11 | Antiarc | kadrahil: Yes |
| 22:41.16 | Ozguli- | sometimes |
| 22:41.17 | KarlThePagan | ad are my strafe |
| 22:41.27 | KarlThePagan | i go to the keypad if i ever keyboard turn |
| 22:41.30 | KarlThePagan | rarely |
| 22:41.38 | Ozguli- | hmm |
| 22:41.41 | Ozguli- | could try that |
| 22:41.43 | kadrahil | Antiarc: just checked the tooltip, yeah |
| 22:41.55 | Ozguli- | caster or melee? |
| 22:41.58 | KarlThePagan | both |
| 22:42.02 | Ozguli- | k |
| 22:42.11 | KarlThePagan | you could also use edsf for movement and then there's a huge range of surrounding keys you can bind |
| 22:42.12 | Ozguli- | my caster isn't 70 yet |
| 22:42.25 | Ozguli- | nah not esdf |
| 22:42.34 | Ozguli- | shift ctrl too far away? |
| 22:42.45 | KarlThePagan | 70 priest, 70 warlock, 60 warrior, 43 rogue, 40 hunter, 37 paladin |
| 22:42.56 | KarlThePagan | they all sorta work with that key layout |
| 22:42.59 | Ozguli- | 70 rogue 52 spriest |
| 22:43.12 | kadrahil | 70 hunter 31 paladin |
| 22:43.14 | kadrahil | :X |
| 22:43.22 | kadrahil | uhh 8 shaman |
| 22:43.25 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 22:43.42 | kadrahil | ohyeah |
| 22:43.46 | Ozguli- | 2 priest as bank alt and lvl 10 belf pala named Miquelin just because it's gay |
| 22:43.47 | KarlThePagan | but yea I don't think there's a problem with qerfzxc for melee/hunters |
| 22:43.50 | kadrahil | i have a 22 priest and 22 shaman on korgath alliance |
| 22:44.15 | KarlThePagan | on my hunter the worst part is strafing and firing some instants... having more keys helps with the instants |
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| 22:44.38 | kadrahil | i use R for arcane and shift+r for multi |
| 22:44.44 | kadrahil | q for concussive |
| 22:44.55 | KarlThePagan | and i tend to favor one side over another... so i can use q12zx for instants and strafe right |
| 22:45.06 | kadrahil | home time |
| 22:45.27 | thul | I hate finding enough buttons |
| 22:45.27 | Ozguli- | KarlThePagan you don't mean strafe left? |
| 22:45.28 | thul | :-( |
| 22:45.48 | KarlThePagan | Ozguli-, nope, i mean hold down d key and use those for my instants so i can move/shoot independantly |
| 22:45.55 | Ozguli- | oh |
| 22:46.02 | Xuerian | Ctrl-Shift-Alt+five mouse buttons ftw |
| 22:46.05 | KarlThePagan | so... my guild is becoming a non-raiding guild |
| 22:47.08 | Ozguli- | ctrl ASD also in use |
| 22:47.16 | Ozguli- | althought doesn't work all that well I've noticed |
| 22:47.41 | Ozguli- | probably I should chance my "trinket" ctrl+space for some pvp function |
| 22:48.03 | Ozguli- | because insignia already has > as the key |
| 22:48.53 | Ozguli- | ah now I know |
| 22:48.57 | Ozguli- | is there any addon that... |
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| 22:49.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin_] by ChanServ |
| 22:49.19 | Ozguli- | lets me to configure bindings to profiles? |
| 22:49.28 | Ozguli- | like... closetgnome does for outfits |
| 22:52.45 | Ozguli- | someone invent such addon then, make many people happy |
| 22:52.51 | aestil | ~define list |
| 22:52.52 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 22:52.57 | aestil | ~dict list |
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| 22:55.34 | aestil | thats not the definition of list that i wanted. |
| 22:55.58 | aestil | Ozguli-: BT3 and bongos should be able to do that. |
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| 23:01.19 | Ozguli- | aestil bongos? not by what I've found out |
| 23:02.05 | aestil | bongos2 allows you to set up profiles for you action bars, and you can make them all have specific keybinds i think. |
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| 23:02.20 | Ozguli- | I'll check around later |
| 23:02.23 | Ozguli- | earlier |
| 23:02.34 | Ozguli- | tomorrow... today, whatever sleeping now! |
| 23:04.41 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56193 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua PowerDisplay.toc pdOptions.lua): |
| 23:04.41 | CIA-8 | PowerDisplay |
| 23:04.41 | CIA-8 | - Frame is now alt-draggable |
| 23:04.41 | CIA-8 | - Will correctly showup when enable |
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| 23:15.16 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r56194 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fixes bug with party frame not showing when entering an instance/bg |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r56195 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: aUF needs to be a global... Else we can't access it in other files |
| 23:19.19 | RaydenUni | why are the caster main hand weapons so expensive? |
| 23:19.23 | RaydenUni | for pvp rewards |
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| 23:21.00 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56196 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: Frame can now be locked from moving |
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| 23:27.45 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r56197 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: scratch that, aUF can be local. I just need to update all files at once. |
| 23:28.12 | Stanzilla | lmao |
| 23:28.14 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 23:28.18 | RaydenUni | so unstable today |
| 23:28.23 | RaydenUni | frozen or disconnected 3 times |
| 23:30.09 | harl|Buffy | i wish my wow would stop adding the trade channel to ChatFrame1 all the time. why did they change that again ?! |
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| 23:39.33 | CIA-8 | 03grennon * r56198 10GPriceEach/embeds.xml: GPriceEach: Fix AceHook in embeds.xml, thanks Odlaw |
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| 23:48.58 | grennon | okay, im really digging rock |
| 23:49.37 | Gngsk | rocks make digging difficult |
| 23:50.03 | Xinhuan | don't make postal work in rock, well, if it works in ace2, it'll work in rock |
| 23:50.11 | Xinhuan | see what i mean? ;p |
| 23:50.22 | grennon | yes i know |
| 23:50.34 | grennon | i just did clicking "about" and seeing the nice tablet pop up |
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| 23:50.42 | grennon | and thought "wow" |
| 23:50.45 | Obelixprime | is there a new version of readyspells? |
| 23:51.10 | grennon | im still not sure what im doing wrong with setting the options, but at least they show up |
| 23:51.36 | Xinhuan | what function did you use |
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