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| 00:03.13 | RaydenUni | honor for Call to Arms is increased |
| 00:03.15 | RaydenUni | by how much? |
| 00:04.15 | aestil | why won't they fix MF is my question. JoshBorke, make it happen |
| 00:04.29 | JoshBorke | what's wrong with MF? |
| 00:04.45 | RaydenUni | oh right |
| 00:04.52 | RaydenUni | changing resolutions causes wow to not display |
| 00:04.53 | RaydenUni | damnit |
| 00:05.35 | aestil | terribad range, breaks on dmg, can't crit, borked dmg coefficient. |
| 00:06.01 | Jaxon | You know what worries me? Aimed Shot debuff completely overwrites any Wound Poison stack. |
| 00:06.03 | aestil | i sepearte those 4 problems into 2 catergories |
| 00:06.07 | RaydenUni | fix MF? |
| 00:06.11 | RaydenUni | it's incredibly mana efficient |
| 00:06.12 | JoshBorke | aestil: ...lol |
| 00:06.20 | aestil | its mana efficient when it doesn't break on dmg. |
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| 00:06.25 | RaydenUni | have you looked at the damage % for raids? |
| 00:06.33 | RaydenUni | around 25-30% of a shadow priest's damage is from MF |
| 00:06.34 | stavmar | does anyone use whodrop? |
| 00:06.40 | RaydenUni | i have it sta |
| 00:06.44 | aestil | uh, yeah, you mean, where it says the only spell that i can change cast does alot of dmg? |
| 00:06.47 | aestil | wow, big suprise |
| 00:07.06 | RaydenUni | what does it matter if it breaks on dmg? |
| 00:07.40 | stavmar | RaydenUni: and does it suck up memory or is it ok |
| 00:07.45 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 00:07.48 | RaydenUni | i just got it yesterday |
| 00:07.51 | aestil | cause you can't claim its really efficient if it breaks before it does the dmg you spent mana to do. |
| 00:08.01 | aestil | those 4 problems, are 2 caterogries. |
| 00:08.06 | RaydenUni | but aestil why would you be taking dmg? |
| 00:08.08 | aestil | range and break on dmg is one thing. |
| 00:08.13 | stavmar | picked it up this Am, like it more than medeleev for how it presents information but not sure if it is a total replacement |
| 00:08.21 | RaydenUni | really, Mind Flay ending is the least of my worries if i'm attacked by Moroes |
| 00:08.22 | aestil | RaydenUni: cause, in raids there is a tremendous amount of random raid splash dmg you can't avoid? |
| 00:08.28 | aestil | moroes? |
| 00:08.30 | aestil | lol |
| 00:08.46 | RaydenUni | i haven't played any bosses that do aoe everywhere |
| 00:08.50 | Antiarc | "A Los Angeles company is touting a new reality game show called "Who Wants to Marry a U.S. Citizen" that aims to create televised matrimony between legal citizens and immigrants who have temporary visas." |
| 00:08.52 | Antiarc | ......................... |
| 00:08.53 | aestil | no, try terron gorefiend. |
| 00:08.56 | Antiarc | There aren't enough ellipses. |
| 00:09.27 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 00:09.32 | RaydenUni | will have to play wow on my laptop |
| 00:09.40 | RaydenUni | desktop is too slow |
| 00:09.46 | aestil | RaydenUni: i don't know where your level of progression is, but in ssc and past, there is a tremendous amount of just random 'raid' dmg. |
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| 00:09.54 | aestil | but nevermind that. |
| 00:10.05 | aestil | the need to make the range like a normal spell, or have it not break on dmg. |
| 00:10.07 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: maiden, aran, opera, and netherspite, at the least, are all kara encounters where dps will take damage |
| 00:10.09 | RaydenUni | aestil my guild has done the Opera event, that's it |
| 00:10.19 | RaydenUni | i don't take dmg on maiden |
| 00:10.21 | aestil | and they either neeed to let it crit, or have the coefficient be what it should be |
| 00:10.23 | Antiarc | Melee does. |
| 00:10.29 | NightHawkTheSane | you must get lucky and never get hit by holy fire |
| 00:10.30 | RaydenUni | yeah but a shadow priest isn't melee |
| 00:10.30 | Antiarc | And anyone that gets holy fired does. |
| 00:10.40 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: i'm usually the tank on curator. |
| 00:11.00 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: long ago, when i did kara. |
| 00:11.00 | RaydenUni | aestil don't get me wrong, i'd love for MF to be buffed |
| 00:11.11 | aestil | of those 4 problems, 2 need to be changed for it to be fixed. |
| 00:11.13 | RaydenUni | what is the coefficient on MF? |
| 00:11.17 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: er, oh.. kay? what does that have to do with anything? :P |
| 00:11.17 | Antiarc | Hydross, Leotheras, Morogrim, and Vashj all have a medium-to-high amount of random damage. Lurker has a little. |
| 00:11.20 | aestil | 1, either make the range normal, or have it not break on dmg. |
| 00:11.33 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, but yeah, i forgot curator |
| 00:11.36 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: that on curator, i'll be taking dmg, and its another encounter where MF breaks. |
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| 00:11.43 | Codayus | Everyone takes some damage on Miaden, yes. Post Maiden, Gruul, Magtheridon, Solarion, VR, Al'ar, everthing Antiarc said... |
| 00:11.46 | aestil | sparks do raid dmg anyone irrc. |
| 00:12.02 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they hit somewhat randomly |
| 00:12.03 | aestil | everyone takes dmg on vashj |
| 00:12.05 | RaydenUni | well then that sucks |
| 00:12.06 | aestil | leo |
| 00:12.20 | aestil | KT, in P4/5 he has some sort of aura thing. |
| 00:12.22 | Antiarc | Void Reaver has a ton of damage on melee, and a ton on slow ranged. Al'ar has a lot of indicental damage. Kael phases 4-5 is a lot of raid damage |
| 00:12.23 | RaydenUni | i still want my AOE dot though :P |
| 00:12.23 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah, damage to the raid as a whole is extremely common |
| 00:12.24 | aestil | FLK |
| 00:12.41 | aestil | its absurd that the only ability we can chain cast, breaks on dmg. |
| 00:12.52 | Antiarc | Not true |
| 00:12.56 | Antiarc | You can chain cast smite. |
| 00:12.57 | aestil | its not nearly as mana efficient as it appears to be. |
| 00:12.58 | Antiarc | *run* |
| 00:13.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: zing! |
| 00:13.05 | aestil | shadow priests can chain cast smite? |
| 00:13.06 | aestil | ;) |
| 00:13.12 | Codayus | VR...yeah, fine, not an issue. A lot of ranged will catch an orb or two, especially while learning. But since it silences you, pushback is the last of your worries. |
| 00:13.12 | Antiarc | Sure, just zip out of shadowform! |
| 00:13.18 | RaydenUni | yeah with my whole +300 spell dmg |
| 00:13.29 | Antiarc | You never said it had to be an EFFECTIVE chain cast! |
| 00:13.32 | aestil | lol. |
| 00:13.41 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: tbh, i agree with you, it'd be nice to have an imp MF, or some talented ability to eliminate pushback/breakage on damage for shadow spells |
| 00:13.51 | aestil | i actually think, if they just made it possible to spend 3 talents to imp MF. for 100% not break on dmg. |
| 00:13.55 | aestil | and then allow it to crit. |
| 00:14.00 | aestil | those 2 changes would be perfect. |
| 00:14.06 | Codayus | Anyhow, there's really nothing wrong with MF. |
| 00:14.08 | aestil | because it would make +crit gear legitimate for a SP |
| 00:14.18 | Codayus | :-) |
| 00:14.23 | RaydenUni | that would be true |
| 00:14.24 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i don't think it needs to crit, but a talent to elliminate pushback/breakage for shadow spells would be probably go a long way |
| 00:14.24 | aestil | and for the pt expenditure, you'd basically be getting a spell thats like arcane missles. |
| 00:14.49 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: if it can't crit, then it really should be getting 85%of my +dmg, instead of 57% |
| 00:15.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that's an unfortunate sacrifice for the fact that it comes with a snare :\ |
| 00:15.22 | Codayus | (Also, of course, any change which increases a spriest's sustained DPS, especially without any decrease in DPM, is SOOO not on the cards. Don't even dream.) |
| 00:16.52 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: The snare is basically useless in PvE |
| 00:16.58 | RaydenUni | i want a threat reducer |
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| 00:17.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i know, hence why i said "unfortunate" :P |
| 00:17.11 | RaydenUni | MF is really only useful for snare in PVP |
| 00:17.11 | aestil | SP are not even close to top tear dps. |
| 00:17.12 | Codayus | Pushback protection would be fun for marning though... |
| 00:17.21 | aestil | tier |
| 00:17.25 | RaydenUni | because it breaks on damage you can't use it in 1on1 |
| 00:17.29 | Antiarc | SP being top tier DPS would be freaking broken |
| 00:17.33 | aestil | mages, rogues, locks, and hunters all should be better. |
| 00:17.34 | RaydenUni | so you use it to snare people while others hit it |
| 00:17.38 | aestil | agrreed antiarc. |
| 00:17.41 | Antiarc | they already mana battery their group and provide additional spell damage to all the casters in the raid |
| 00:17.41 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 00:17.44 | RaydenUni | we bring so much else |
| 00:17.47 | Codayus | aestil: Duh. There's a reason too - VT. We'll never be top tier DPS, and if we get close, we'll be nerfed. And rightly so, honestly. |
| 00:18.04 | aestil | i'm saying, that when the game first launched, a bucnh of SP's in full T5 gear went into kara and made eveyrone else look stupid |
| 00:18.18 | aestil | i'm speaking of FSW+Spellstrike of course. |
| 00:18.21 | RaydenUni | cause no one else can get T5 |
| 00:18.22 | Codayus | Don't forget, it's only been a couple patches since they seriously nerfed our -threat. |
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| 00:18.33 | aestil | so we got a shit ton of nerfs. |
| 00:18.40 | aestil | like a shit storm of nerfs. |
| 00:18.40 | RaydenUni | eh |
| 00:18.43 | RaydenUni | i havent' seen too many lately |
| 00:18.44 | aestil | fine. |
| 00:18.47 | RaydenUni | VE got reduced a while back |
| 00:18.47 | aestil | lately? |
| 00:18.55 | aestil | let me educate you. |
| 00:19.10 | kenlyric | oh, shadow priest crying again? |
| 00:19.18 | aestil | SW:P dmg coeffficient was nerfed, we spend 5 more talents now to get he same +dmg we did prior to TBC. |
| 00:19.19 | kenlyric | look, the only lesson you need is 2.0.1 |
| 00:19.27 | kenlyric | gtfo |
| 00:19.28 | aestil | VE is a nerf that no one cares about. |
| 00:19.47 | Codayus | aestil: Nerfs are less than meaningless. Where are spriests now in terms of DPS, utility, competition for raid slots? |
| 00:19.50 | aestil | the lesson i just reffered to which is that we were in T5+gear and everyoen else was wearing blues and we did more dmg than then? |
| 00:19.57 | aestil | utility, very good. |
| 00:20.00 | aestil | dps? subpar. |
| 00:20.10 | aestil | i'm not asking for huge buffs. |
| 00:20.14 | Codayus | For a utility class? No. |
| 00:20.19 | kenlyric | as it should be |
| 00:20.27 | aestil | i'm saying that our only spell, that we can chain for dmg, not break on dmg. |
| 00:20.42 | kenlyric | yes, spriest have been nerfed endlessly since 2.0.1 |
| 00:20.55 | kenlyric | so I say, see 2.0.1 for the massive buff to utility. |
| 00:20.56 | aestil | its a small change, which makes sense, for 3 talent points. |
| 00:21.10 | aestil | let me spend 3 pts to make MF not break on dmg. |
| 00:21.17 | Codayus | We aren't GOING to get mage DPS with our current utility. If we ever do, they'll nerf our utility down to mages. I'd rather be a unique utility spec than another ranged DPS class. |
| 00:21.23 | kenlyric | lordy |
| 00:21.25 | RaydenUni | we aren't severely underpowered now though |
| 00:21.41 | Codayus | And removing pushback on MF would have effectively zero impact on raids anyhow. >< |
| 00:22.08 | aestil | Codayus: uh, pushback on mf would have 0 impact? |
| 00:22.10 | aestil | ok. |
| 00:22.13 | kenlyric | don't think he cares about raids |
| 00:22.33 | aestil | btw, its not pushback. |
| 00:22.35 | aestil | its breaking. |
| 00:22.43 | aestil | if MF had pushback from random dmg, that would be one thing. |
| 00:22.46 | aestil | but it breaks on dmg. |
| 00:22.55 | aestil | it doesn't take longer to cast, it stops casting. |
| 00:23.20 | kenlyric | stops entirely, or loses ticks? |
| 00:23.30 | Codayus | aestil: The DPS impact is this - SOMETIMES, you get damaged. SOMETIMES, you're casting MF. SOMETIMES when it happens it happens it's right before a tick. This SLIGHTLY lowers your DPS. |
| 00:23.31 | kenlyric | it's been very long since I was shadow. |
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| 00:24.35 | Codayus | But when you look at an actual raid, even one with heavy AoE raid damage...we're talking about a tiny DPS loss. |
| 00:24.40 | aestil | sometimes your fighting teron gorefiend, sometimes you take dmg every few seconds, |
| 00:25.02 | aestil | Codayus: ok, thanks for letting me know that all those broken MF casts are having no impact on my dps. |
| 00:25.19 | Codayus | Uh huh. And on the 95% of raid fights which aren't teron? |
| 00:25.30 | aestil | there are plenty of encounters like that. |
| 00:25.37 | aestil | KT has some sort of aura shit that he does. |
| 00:25.40 | Antiarc | There aren't a lot of encounters with constant damage auras |
| 00:25.54 | aestil | if its such a small increase in dmg, then why should anyone care? |
| 00:26.15 | aestil | anyways, the arguement about not increaseing our DPM is fine with me. |
| 00:26.22 | aestil | make MF csot more, and let it do 85% of +dmg |
| 00:26.29 | aestil | win win. |
| 00:26.42 | aestil | we are all chain casting mad alchemist pots now anyways. |
| 00:27.10 | aestil | our utility is severly limited by our lack of any real threat reduction ability. |
| 00:27.18 | Codayus | aestil: Reroll, IMHO. |
| 00:27.19 | aestil | how many things can we not have, because we provide utility? |
| 00:27.20 | Antiarc | Soulstones are threat wipes! |
| 00:27.25 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 00:27.30 | kenlyric | why do people want their class to be perfect? |
| 00:27.31 | JoshBorke | aestil: i don't chug those, i'll be damned if i lvl another profession before WoTLK |
| 00:27.33 | aestil | we can't have threat dump. |
| 00:27.46 | Antiarc | I'd say that high threat is the price for the mana battery |
| 00:27.51 | kenlyric | exactly |
| 00:27.52 | Antiarc | It completely changes the dynamics of the group the SP is in |
| 00:27.53 | aestil | thats fine. |
| 00:28.01 | aestil | antiarc, great, i'm willing to accept that. |
| 00:28.03 | kenlyric | you have to care about threat because it's the ONLY thing you care about. |
| 00:28.14 | RaydenUni | hmm, true |
| 00:28.14 | WobWork | as opposed to? |
| 00:28.17 | aestil | but let that be the price. |
| 00:28.28 | aestil | my dmg is limited by my threat, not by my ability to do dmg. |
| 00:28.48 | aestil | ok JoshBorke you're chuging super mana pots :( are sorry for you. |
| 00:29.13 | JoshBorke | it's ok, i've got 8 stacks of them |
| 00:29.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I've got eight stacks of YOU |
| 00:29.30 | JoshBorke | that's a whole lot of me |
| 00:29.36 | NightHawkTheSane | itis |
| 00:29.41 | kenlyric | i've got 8 stacks of your mom |
| 00:29.55 | aestil | 8 stacks doesnt really last that long? |
| 00:29.59 | kenlyric | right |
| 00:30.00 | Codayus | They're pretty cheap these days. And it's not like you even need much as you gear up. Sustainability at T5 gear level (never mind T6) is quite high. |
| 00:30.01 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. just one of your mom take up 8 stacks. |
| 00:30.04 | WobWork | She stacks to 20 |
| 00:30.18 | WobWork | and since 2.3, lasts an hour =P |
| 00:30.32 | aestil | thats true. |
| 00:30.39 | aestil | as far as sustainabilty, on most boss fights. |
| 00:30.40 | kenlyric | the mana return on mad alch is the same as super mana? |
| 00:30.42 | aestil | not so much on trash. |
| 00:30.47 | aestil | kenlyric: its less. |
| 00:30.51 | aestil | but it also gives health |
| 00:30.58 | aestil | so its an easy SW:D + pot moment. |
| 00:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: :( nerf your mom |
| 00:31.03 | aestil | its like an extra SW:D for free. |
| 00:31.04 | Codayus | kenlyric: No, but they're very cheap. 2 ragveil, and a cheap vial. |
| 00:31.16 | aestil | on hyjal trash i'm running oom without chaining the pots. |
| 00:31.51 | Bruners | just drink between the packs? |
| 00:32.59 | aestil | i'm running OOM during the packs. |
| 00:34.27 | Codayus | Hmm, I'll tell you where I'm running OOM - Eagle boss in ZA. Oo Using SW:P for add control is kinda nuts, even if it works well... |
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| 00:34.50 | aestil | *boggle* i think we just hunter like multi shot. |
| 00:34.51 | Towbar | hello folks |
| 00:34.57 | aestil | best is having lock seed. |
| 00:35.01 | |Stan| | aestil: how often do you use sw:d |
| 00:35.03 | aestil | kilsl teh birds for free. |
| 00:35.06 | Codayus | WTB warlocks, PST. |
| 00:35.09 | Towbar | any quartz contributors online atm? |
| 00:35.20 | aestil | |Stan|: as often as i can without killing myself. |
| 00:35.22 | Codayus | We use spriests. Chain drinking mana pots and begging for innervates. :-( |
| 00:35.38 | Towbar | dont we all : codayus :) |
| 00:35.40 | aestil | i've hardly spent any time in ZA, killed through malacrass. |
| 00:35.52 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 00:35.55 | aestil | people in my guild have cleared it, but not myself. |
| 00:35.58 | aestil | no time. |
| 00:36.07 | Codayus | Fun change, and there's a few good drops. Hex shrunken head, for example. |
| 00:36.25 | |Stan| | aestil: we're in hyjal atm and I really can't use it anymore because the boss abilities would kill you too easily if you don't have full hp |
| 00:36.38 | Codayus | Not sure why Bliz wanted to put the best trinket in the game on a random boss in ZA, but whatever. |
| 00:36.42 | aestil | |Stan|: yeah, very tricky to use. |
| 00:36.55 | aestil | Codayus: yep. i just resigned that i'll never get it. |
| 00:37.04 | aestil | i'm probably backing out of raiding soon anyways. |
| 00:37.34 | Codayus | Yeah...I'm probably going to be raiding once a week soon, due to work. |
| 00:37.37 | aestil | |Stan|: basically, first boss its cake to use, second boss, if i'm full health or if using mad alch pot will bring me to full health, i'll use it. |
| 00:37.50 | aestil | |Stan|: which is the third boss, silence? you can use it on that one. |
| 00:37.54 | Towbar | does anyone know how to make quartz ignore certain casts, eg deaden on the souls in BT :( |
| 00:38.05 | Towbar | one rogue ever try always kicks it |
| 00:38.08 | aestil | |Stan|: 4th boss.... mana drain? i can't remember. |
| 00:38.09 | Towbar | every* |
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| 00:38.47 | CIA-8 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 00:39.03 | aestil | btw, is lag a factor on terron gorefiend? we have a brazillian druid. i'm not sure he's got the reaction time to handle the ghosts effectivly. |
| 00:39.38 | Towbar | i jsut made a set of macros for gorefiend |
| 00:39.41 | aestil | we need attempts on archimonde, which should come this week, but probably, we won't kill him. |
| 00:39.43 | Towbar | and he is easy as hell since |
| 00:40.09 | aestil | i killed all mine, + 1 of someone elses from 100% -> 0. but not everyone is used to multi target dpsing, and can stay cool. |
| 00:40.19 | aestil | i only got it once in a whole 3 or 5 attempts. |
| 00:40.37 | Towbar | :/ |
| 00:40.46 | Towbar | i get mine and the next persons with the macros |
| 00:40.49 | Towbar | easy |
| 00:41.53 | Towbar | ./cast [target=pettarget] Spirit Volley |
| 00:42.00 | Towbar | ./cast [target=pettarget] Spirit Chains |
| 00:42.14 | Towbar | ./cast [target=pettarget] Spirit Lance |
| 00:42.24 | Towbar | ./target enemy |
| 00:42.29 | Towbar | at teh end of teh last one |
| 00:42.31 | Towbar | the* |
| 00:42.34 | aestil | i just have the lance and spirit chains set to F2/F1 |
| 00:42.40 | Towbar | so it casts teh lance then targets a new enemy |
| 00:42.41 | aestil | i dont' even use the AoE volley |
| 00:42.50 | Towbar | i jsut aoe voley |
| 00:43.04 | Towbar | wait for it to run our them spam teh lance /target macro |
| 00:43.08 | Towbar | so easy tbh |
| 00:43.31 | Towbar | whole screen fils blue with pet dmg |
| 00:43.43 | Towbar | they nerfed it in 2.3 but it is still very effective |
| 00:43.52 | Towbar | a GCD was put on lance |
| 00:44.25 | Towbar | so once you aoe, then stun all |
| 00:44.36 | Towbar | get in front of them back to raid and boss, then spam teh macro |
| 00:44.46 | Towbar | it always targets teh nearest enemy and nukes them |
| 00:45.01 | Towbar | so teh ones that are moving fast and are closest to teh boss get nuked |
| 00:45.04 | Towbar | the* |
| 00:45.10 | Towbar | i cant type the fast btw |
| 00:45.12 | Towbar | :( |
| 00:45.31 | Towbar | made all our raid get it and we have one shot him every time since |
| 00:46.31 | Towbar | now we need help with the req of souls :( |
| 00:46.42 | Towbar | me or another rogue keeps on kicking deaden :(( |
| 00:46.47 | Towbar | every time... |
| 00:46.55 | Towbar | so i was wondering can quartz ignore it? |
| 00:47.02 | Towbar | so we dont auto kick |
| 00:47.09 | Towbar | in our heads |
| 00:47.27 | Towbar | would be an awesome feature, to ignore certain cast names |
| 00:47.32 | Towbar | like HS in pvp etc |
| 00:47.38 | Towbar | and deaden in pve |
| 00:47.55 | Towbar | perhaps make a custom ignore section |
| 00:48.20 | Towbar | do not show certain casts as per user input |
| 00:49.13 | Towbar | omg my posts fill the screen :( that is always a bad sign... sorry guys |
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| 00:51.34 | Orionshock | So ... PuG'n AQ20... @ Rajax |
| 00:51.43 | Orionshock | ... finaly get past the last wave... |
| 00:51.52 | Olison | b r |
| 00:51.52 | MrUseful | Rehashing... |
| 00:51.52 | Orionshock | rajax has yelled and is running down... |
| 00:51.54 | kenlyric | wait for it |
| 00:51.59 | kenlyric | wait for it |
| 00:52.06 | Orionshock | & the Entire ROOM Respawns... |
| 00:52.08 | kenlyric | type FASTER |
| 00:52.22 | Orionshock | all 8 waves + boss |
| 00:52.27 | kenlyric | two bosses? |
| 00:52.27 | starlon | Rajax has always been buggy |
| 00:52.28 | Towbar | had that at 60 |
| 00:52.29 | kenlyric | double loot |
| 00:52.40 | Towbar | aq20 was THE most buggy instance ever |
| 00:52.52 | NightHawkTheSane | You know, i never had major issues with aq20 |
| 00:53.01 | Orionshock | just the shear horror of watching that happen |
| 00:53.09 | kenlyric | really, i only found bugs at rajaxx |
| 00:53.10 | Pkekyo| | any releasedate on patch 2.3.2? |
| 00:53.11 | Orionshock | i didn't even bother tanking anything... |
| 00:53.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: screenshot? :P |
| 00:53.14 | Towbar | doable at 70 i bet |
| 00:53.17 | Orionshock | just waited for it all to kill me |
| 00:53.47 | Towbar | prot pally would eat them now |
| 00:54.16 | Orionshock | turns out that one of our stupid pallys & Huntards where standing on the wall |
| 00:54.20 | Orionshock | >.0 |
| 00:54.24 | Towbar | ¬.¬ |
| 00:54.45 | NightHawkTheSane | and thus, my prior statement holds true |
| 00:54.50 | NightHawkTheSane | pugging anything is just asking for trouble ;) |
| 00:54.59 | Towbar | ./agree |
| 00:55.13 | Orionshock | but |
| 00:55.14 | Orionshock | but |
| 00:55.17 | Orionshock | it's fun |
| 00:55.27 | Towbar | te only reason we pug is to remind ourselves of why we dont usually pug |
| 00:55.29 | WobWork | You misspelled "horrific" |
| 00:55.42 | starlon | you have a weird sense of what's fun |
| 00:55.51 | Orionshock | horror =/= horrific |
| 00:55.56 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, i even loath pugging instances while leveling |
| 00:55.57 | Towbar | at 4.5-5g a death thats not fun |
| 00:56.11 | Towbar | especially with 300 tps tanks |
| 00:56.20 | Pkekyo| | 'Blade's Edge Mountains: Players accepting the bombing run quests in Blade's Edge Plateaus will no longer cause other players in the region to stand up.' <---- saywhat? O.o |
| 00:56.32 | Towbar | lol |
| 00:56.38 | Towbar | of ALL the bugs in the game |
| 00:56.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: its a bug, they fixed it? *shrug* whats hard to understand? |
| 00:56.42 | starlon | MS warrior tanks ftl |
| 00:56.50 | Towbar | blizzard addressed teh most meanless they could find |
| 00:57.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Towbar: eh, that's not fair |
| 00:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | that was probably an easy bug to implement and test, so they did |
| 00:57.17 | Towbar | to whom? |
| 00:57.28 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: what's hard to understand is 1 - why the hell would that even happen? 2 - like Towbar said, of all the bugs in the game.... |
| 00:58.20 | Towbar | I have been feared thought a tree in BM heroic (easy daily farm for badges :)) and fallen through the world till I got summoned or die twice |
| 00:58.31 | Towbar | died, twice* |
| 00:58.40 | Towbar | shade bugged for us today |
| 00:58.49 | NightHawkTheSane | the programmers are probably trying to fix all the bugs that they know about, some of them require more complex changes, maybe interaction with the design team, and can take a while to implement and properly test. others are simple and easy to implement and test, they probably don't have priority to fix, but when a programmer gets the time, he fixes them, and it gets done |
| 00:58.53 | Towbar | there are so many more meaningful bugs to fix that that |
| 00:59.15 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not like blizzard says "hey, we're just going to shove all these important bugs off to the side, and fix this ONE BUG. SUCK IT PLAYERS." |
| 00:59.36 | Towbar | mage pets are still vanish bugged, fix that instead please |
| 00:59.45 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: how can you be sure? |
| 00:59.46 | Towbar | or other more relevant bugs please |
| 01:00.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: because software development is pretty much the same everywhere. |
| 01:00.15 | Towbar | pay teh fatcats screw the french workers? |
| 01:00.23 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 01:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ANyone who honestly believes that blizzard, or any company, intentionally avoids addressing and fixing bugs is an idiot, and wrong. :P |
| 01:01.28 | Towbar | hence working as intended |
| 01:02.18 | Pkekyo| | anyone who honestly believes that blizzard, or any company, does not intentially avoid adressing and fixing bugs is an idiot, and wrong. |
| 01:02.23 | Diao | hey now starlon MS tanks can put out a ton of threat if they know what they're doing :( |
| 01:02.27 | Pkekyo| | welcome to zeh intarwebs, where CAPS MAKE IT TRUTH |
| 01:02.34 | Towbar | LIES |
| 01:02.39 | Towbar | :/ |
| 01:02.40 | Pkekyo| | NOES TRUTH |
| 01:02.50 | Towbar | so paradoxical |
| 01:02.56 | Towbar | paradoxial* |
| 01:02.57 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 01:03.00 | Towbar | ^^ |
| 01:03.12 | Pkekyo| | internet logics ftw...or maybe I should say lack thereof... |
| 01:03.16 | starlon | I'm a fury warrior. I know what we can put out, and unless there's plenty of rage there's no threat generation. |
| 01:03.27 | NightHawkTheSane | what in gods name are you even talking about? |
| 01:03.39 | Diao | i was putting out 900 tps yesterday in kara while OTing as MS spec lol |
| 01:03.41 | Towbar | starlon, your fury |
| 01:04.15 | starlon | And? |
| 01:04.24 | Towbar | 10% reduced threat |
| 01:04.32 | starlon | Only in berserker stance |
| 01:04.32 | Diao | only in zerk stance Towbar |
| 01:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | "you're" |
| 01:04.36 | Towbar | fury cannot tank effectivly |
| 01:04.44 | Towbar | yes you're |
| 01:04.50 | Antiarc | The Tactical Mastery change made it a lot easier |
| 01:05.01 | Towbar | I have become so laxidasical recently with apostrophys |
| 01:05.04 | starlon | I'm not wasting points in the prot tree though |
| 01:05.05 | Towbar | ;) |
| 01:05.13 | starlon | I'd have to give up too much |
| 01:05.20 | Diao | "too much" |
| 01:05.20 | Towbar | hence fury |
| 01:05.21 | NightHawkTheSane | oh gods, 3 pointsin tier 1 is so hard. |
| 01:05.25 | Diao | many warriors go 17/41/3 |
| 01:05.26 | NightHawkTheSane | then don't bitch about it. |
| 01:05.27 | Diao | as fury |
| 01:06.15 | Towbar | but the fury tree is basically raid dps without causeing too much threat and being able to OT when needed whilst also giving rogues BS |
| 01:06.34 | Pkekyo| | if your party/raid is not filled to the brim with complete arsehats, you can tank ANY encounter in the game just fine, independant of specc... |
| 01:06.52 | kenlyric | so? |
| 01:06.57 | Towbar | that is like saying a feral sucks because he cannot heal >.< |
| 01:06.58 | kenlyric | doesn't mean they're easy to fix. |
| 01:06.59 | Towbar | ? |
| 01:07.00 | Antiarc | You aren't going to be tanking things like Bloodboil as a non-tanking spec |
| 01:07.11 | Towbar | agree |
| 01:07.13 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r56478 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 01:07.13 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 01:07.13 | CIA-8 | -Tradeskill deDE update as per Stan's post |
| 01:07.15 | Towbar | yo antiarc |
| 01:07.16 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, hey, my feral doesn't suck because he can'theal, he sucks because he won't heal. ;) |
| 01:07.20 | Towbar | love yer addons |
| 01:07.21 | Towbar | :P |
| 01:07.28 | Antiarc | Hehe, thanks |
| 01:07.32 | kenlyric | look, the whole "can only work on the most important things all the time" mentality only works on Fark. |
| 01:07.34 | Pkekyo| | Antiarc: well, I'm not saying everyone in the entire world should to it, I'm saying it's fully possible... |
| 01:07.42 | Antiarc | I disagree, personally |
| 01:07.50 | Antiarc | The damage output required requires defiance to keep up with, really |
| 01:07.54 | Towbar | each to their own |
| 01:08.05 | Towbar | you wouldnt expect a resto druid to tank |
| 01:08.14 | Towbar | or a holy priest to give the group mana |
| 01:08.35 | Towbar | wouldn't*** |
| 01:08.57 | Pkekyo| | Antiarc: if your DPSers aren't able to pace themselves so they won't overaggro, you could might as well say sod-all to them anyways... if they only work with a specific tank, they're not worth keeping imo |
| 01:09.11 | Antiarc | Pkekyo|: Do you know the Bloodboil fight? |
| 01:09.20 | Towbar | :D |
| 01:09.22 | Antiarc | It's an insane healing fight, regular threat wipes, and requires extremely high DPS. |
| 01:09.25 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: restos in my guild have tanked on several occasions :) |
| 01:09.26 | Towbar | hemo ftw on that |
| 01:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i think what Antiarc's getting at is that it's not a matter of dps pacing themselves, it's needing a certain dps output so the healers don't go oom |
| 01:09.41 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 01:09.48 | Pkekyo| | Antiarc: no, I don't, but I can't imagine it would be impossible to pull off with a non-prot tank |
| 01:09.54 | Antiarc | Oh, it is. |
| 01:10.00 | Antiarc | It's an utterly insane fight |
| 01:10.08 | Towbar | pkekyo: however, it is more benificial to have a fury warrior OT than a resto druid, for obvious reasons |
| 01:10.19 | Antiarc | The healing and damage (and thus, threat) requirements will push your raid to its limit there |
| 01:10.20 | starlon | Wait. Why? |
| 01:10.38 | Towbar | CoH priests know about aggro on that |
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| 01:10.45 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: ofcourse, but a restodruid popping bearform is golden when I die because the tosser is too slow on healing :> |
| 01:10.48 | Towbar | and improed VE shadow priests |
| 01:11.03 | Towbar | pkekyo: where? |
| 01:11.13 | kenlyric | Towbar: grats on having no idea how software development works or how programmers function. |
| 01:11.16 | Pkekyo| | latest incident was ZA |
| 01:11.28 | Towbar | KENLYRIS: WHEN DID i SAY i HAD? |
| 01:11.32 | Towbar | oops caps |
| 01:11.39 | Pkekyo| | CAPS MAKE IT TRUTH |
| 01:11.43 | kenlyric | sometimes they just need a break from the bugs that hurt their brains and say "ooh, one line fix!" |
| 01:11.43 | Towbar | LIES |
| 01:11.48 | kenlyric | and gogo, fixed. |
| 01:11.56 | Pkekyo| | NOES TRUTH |
| 01:12.08 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.13 | Towbar | kenlyric i work in IT, networking, and I do the same thing almost |
| 01:12.27 | Pkekyo| | s/rusg/rug/ |
| 01:12.34 | Towbar | however, teh customer doesnt pat me on the back for fixing a minor problem..... |
| 01:12.36 | Towbar | the* |
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| 01:12.43 | Towbar | doesn't |
| 01:12.55 | Towbar | when major issues remain |
| 01:13.26 | Pkekyo| | Wrap of the Lizard King screenies look great :) |
| 01:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but the customer is an asshole. :P |
| 01:13.39 | Towbar | agree |
| 01:13.47 | NightHawkTheSane | so there's no point in listening to them |
| 01:13.47 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: you still need his money |
| 01:13.50 | Towbar | but a rich asshole most of the time :D |
| 01:13.53 | Towbar | hence i care |
| 01:13.58 | Pkekyo| | I say again: NightHawkTheSane: you still need his money |
| 01:14.05 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, as a programmer, I don't need the customer's money, the -company- does. :P |
| 01:14.19 | Towbar | thats why I made my own |
| 01:14.22 | Pkekyo| | well, if the company doesn't get any money, you'll eventually be laid off |
| 01:14.23 | NightHawkTheSane | There's a reason programmers don't talk to customers. |
| 01:14.31 | Towbar | you will never make money making it for someone else |
| 01:14.33 | Towbar | ;) |
| 01:14.50 | Pkekyo| | <insert statement that would most likely piss off pretty much the entire channel here> |
| 01:15.00 | Towbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.19 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i doubt you could piss me off, at best, you just make me think you're more of an idiot than i already think you are. |
| 01:15.35 | Pkekyo| | :> |
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| 01:15.59 | Towbar | ahhh antiarc |
| 01:16.02 | Towbar | you are a coder |
| 01:16.11 | Antiarc | So the rumor goes |
| 01:16.17 | Towbar | may I ask you a question |
| 01:16.21 | Antiarc | sure |
| 01:16.22 | Pkekyo| | no you may not |
| 01:16.31 | Pkekyo| | doh, beat me to it |
| 01:16.34 | Towbar | how can I make quartz not show deaden on the souls in BT :D |
| 01:16.35 | Towbar | ? |
| 01:16.46 | Antiarc | There's a hack for it on EJ somewhere |
| 01:16.50 | Towbar | i saw it |
| 01:16.52 | Antiarc | But I don't know the Quartz code |
| 01:16.53 | Towbar | however |
| 01:17.02 | Towbar | I do not want to perma change it every update |
| 01:17.21 | Towbar | then I thought it would be a nice feature to ignore user specific casts |
| 01:17.31 | Towbar | eg hearthstone in pvp and deaden |
| 01:17.38 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: screw updates and put a dir named .svn in the quartz folder :> |
| 01:17.53 | Towbar | the amount of mages that counterspell my mates hearthstone is funny in 5v5 :D |
| 01:18.01 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 01:18.10 | Antiarc | You can't cast hearthstone in the arena |
| 01:18.18 | Towbar | duels then |
| 01:18.25 | Towbar | he says it works a treat |
| 01:18.30 | Towbar | my bad |
| 01:18.36 | Funkeh` | or, just cast something then stop |
| 01:18.41 | Funkeh` | thats what I always do... |
| 01:18.41 | NightHawkTheSane | since when did arcane crystals start dropping from small thorium veins? |
| 01:18.54 | Pkekyo| | since patch 1.9 |
| 01:18.58 | Towbar | yea but some of our rogues always kick a deaden and it is getting annoying to say the least |
| 01:19.00 | starlon | since before the storm |
| 01:19.05 | kenlyric | it works like this. You spend 90% of your time on major bugs and 10% of your time on minor bugs. Or, you spend 100% on major bugs. 10% more time means little for bugs you're spending 90% of your time on, but it's great for killing all those tiny bugs. |
| 01:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | really? |
| 01:19.09 | NightHawkTheSane | huh... |
| 01:19.23 | kenlyric | end result: more shit gets fixed. |
| 01:19.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess i never noticed, as this is the first level ~60 miner i've had |
| 01:19.54 | Towbar | kenlyric: i am not saying its bad, however it is like saying the indicators are working now when the engine suddenly cuts out |
| 01:19.58 | starlon | they did that and increased the drop rate on rich throrium |
| 01:20.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i knew they increased the drop rate from rich thorium, just didn't know they added them to small thorium, too, neat. |
| 01:20.49 | starlon | yup |
| 01:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | especially since i just nabbed two from a single small vein. >.> |
| 01:21.35 | Towbar | from a programmers perspective would it be hard to implement a custom ignore bcast list in quartz? |
| 01:21.42 | Olison | b r |
| 01:21.42 | MrUseful | Rehashing... |
| 01:22.00 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't sound hard, but i havn't looked at quartz's code |
| 01:22.18 | Pkekyo| | what you need arcane crystal for now anyways? |
| 01:22.26 | Pkekyo| | I just started vendoring them |
| 01:22.31 | Towbar | I am no programmer, that I can redily admit to anyone, but I know ideas |
| 01:22.59 | starlon | you're no typist either :) |
| 01:23.04 | Towbar | :D |
| 01:23.05 | starlon | just saying |
| 01:23.08 | Towbar | agree |
| 01:23.19 | Towbar | all my fingers were broke when i was ounger |
| 01:23.22 | Towbar | younger |
| 01:23.28 | starlon | ouch |
| 01:23.38 | Towbar | and its a pain having a small finger on one hand at a 20 degree angle from the rest |
| 01:23.51 | Towbar | wwith a kink in the middle |
| 01:23.59 | Pkekyo| | O.o |
| 01:24.17 | Towbar | i gave up on ' a long time ago |
| 01:24.20 | Towbar | :) |
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| 01:24.32 | Pkekyo| | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2007/11/wcctat.jpg <--- dunno wether to laugh, cry or both |
| 01:24.45 | Towbar | lol |
| 01:24.56 | Towbar | that would be painful |
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| 01:25.56 | Nocts | Has bartender3 given itself anything to encourage people to use it over bongos2? |
| 01:26.02 | Towbar | yes |
| 01:26.06 | Nocts | ^ Explain |
| 01:26.06 | Towbar | it is an ace addon |
| 01:26.12 | Towbar | so WAU works |
| 01:26.13 | Nocts | Gotta do better than that |
| 01:26.15 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not a good reason |
| 01:26.17 | Funkeh` | ..... |
| 01:26.19 | Funkeh` | ....... |
| 01:26.19 | Towbar | yes it is |
| 01:26.26 | Towbar | imo and many others |
| 01:26.41 | Nocts | wowinterface.com too difficutl for you? |
| 01:26.46 | Funkeh` | They are both pretty equal, try both and pick one |
| 01:26.46 | Antiarc | Since it's an Ace addon, it shares resources with other Ace addons, potentially lowering your resource requirements |
| 01:26.48 | Nocts | Okay, moving on. Anyone else? |
| 01:26.53 | Towbar | dbm still does a few things bigwigs does not and most people I know in pve still use it |
| 01:26.57 | Funkeh` | Its not better because its ace, stop talking bullshit. |
| 01:27.04 | Nocts | ^ This. |
| 01:27.06 | Towbar | it is easily and regularly updateed |
| 01:27.12 | Nocts | So is bongos2 |
| 01:27.23 | Nocts | I don't care about development model, I talk to tuller quite often. |
| 01:27.24 | kenlyric | it's simpler to setup. |
| 01:27.30 | Nocts | I'm talking about featureset. |
| 01:27.34 | Nocts | I haven't used BT3 in a while. |
| 01:27.38 | kenlyric | bongos has more features. |
| 01:27.40 | Nocts | General stability. |
| 01:28.09 | Towbar | what more features do you REALLY need from actionbars? |
| 01:28.21 | Nocts | Clearly you've never heard of flexbar2 ;) |
| 01:28.24 | kenlyric | well, if you want 50 2-button actionbars, you can't do that with bartender |
| 01:28.26 | Funkeh` | Towbar, and thats most likely how it will stay, since it does a lot of bullshit it should not. |
| 01:28.32 | kenlyric | you can with bongos |
| 01:28.32 | Towbar | I have only had one problem ever with BT3 moving my stance bar when I stealthed |
| 01:28.33 | Nocts | Garbage generation? Stability? Has bt3 improved? |
| 01:28.34 | Towbar | ever |
| 01:29.05 | Towbar | what advantage has flexbars over BT? |
| 01:29.09 | starlon | I haven't had any problems with Bartender3 |
| 01:29.12 | Pkekyo| | kenlyricwell, if you want 50 2-button actionbars, you can't do that with bartender <---- and why might one want that? for other reasons that 'winning' this discussion, that is... |
| 01:29.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Nocts: meh, to be honest, try it and see, if you're happy with bongos, why worry? |
| 01:29.26 | kenlyric | i used bongos for a while, but I saw no features it had over bt3 that i needed. |
| 01:29.41 | Nocts | NightHawkTheSane: Because I keep up with the projects :) I'm curious about the project itself, not planning no using it. |
| 01:29.45 | thul | i have problems with getting paging to work properly |
| 01:29.47 | thul | but that is so :-P |
| 01:29.48 | kenlyric | and, bt3 has default profile, so, yeah. |
| 01:30.29 | Towbar | what advantage has flexbars over BT? |
| 01:30.29 | kenlyric | flexes |
| 01:30.29 | Towbar | lol |
| 01:30.29 | Nocts | Towbar: Each and every single button (unlimited, not capped to 120) on fb2 can be put wherever you want, with whatever texture you want, with or without font and placed inside the button where ever you want, modular for less memory, etc etc. |
| 01:30.32 | Nocts | You could make a smiley face if you wanted, and still move it as a group. |
| 01:30.32 | Towbar | and that is useful why? |
| 01:30.42 | Nocts | Because not all of us built bars with 12 buttons. |
| 01:31.12 | ag` | in what range does flexbar use of mem? |
| 01:31.15 | Towbar | i play 3 clases regularly and BT3 servers all their purposes |
| 01:31.18 | NightHawkTheSane | just because you don'tuse it doesn't mean it's not useful to someone. :P |
| 01:31.22 | Nocts | Then shut up and stop trying to defend it. |
| 01:31.38 | Nocts | I'm curious about the bt3 development project in a whole. |
| 01:31.40 | Nocts | :) |
| 01:31.48 | Nocts | I watched it from bt1-2, and missed most of 3. |
| 01:31.53 | Nocts | Playing catchup on news. |
| 01:32.05 | ag` | 4 is coming |
| 01:32.06 | Funkeh` | well theres nothing special |
| 01:32.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Nocts: i know nevcairiel's working on bt4, though it's far from usable i believe |
| 01:32.08 | Funkeh` | it makes bars and moves them |
| 01:32.11 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: for some obscure reason, I doubt making a huge smileyface on your UI with actionbar buttons would be all that useful to anyone at all tbh... |
| 01:32.13 | Funkeh` | usualy yadayada |
| 01:32.15 | Towbar | I am of the frame of mind if something is not broke, then do not fix it. BT3 is not broken imho |
| 01:32.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: your ping-fu fails |
| 01:32.21 | Funkeh` | is there something special you are looking for? |
| 01:32.29 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: wha? |
| 01:32.33 | Pkekyo| | ~ping-fu |
| 01:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, wait, nevermind, i should read the entire comment first; ) |
| 01:32.45 | Nocts | Pkekyo|: No, but using individual buttons and alignments instead of requiring an entire action bar saves a lot of memory. |
| 01:32.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: *shrug* maybe, but who am i to say what other people want? :P |
| 01:32.57 | Towbar | who is anyone |
| 01:32.58 | Nocts | Towbar: It may not be broken, but neither is bongos2 and flexbar2. |
| 01:33.06 | Nocts | I'm not saying anything is broken. |
| 01:33.08 | Towbar | you can only please the masses |
| 01:33.32 | Towbar | nocts: I am not saying you did, its a common phrase in the UK |
| 01:33.44 | Towbar | :D |
| 01:33.50 | Kameril | is #NODOC_DEFAULT broken in the autodoc? even though I add it at the top of my file everything gets autodoced |
| 01:33.55 | Pkekyo| | Nocts: meh...maybe so, but quite frankly, if wow is draining all of your memory these days, you've got more serious problems than an actionbar addon :p |
| 01:34.08 | Towbar | ./agree |
| 01:34.09 | Nocts | It isn't draining anything. |
| 01:34.10 | kenlyric | only imperial stormtroopers are accurate enough for smileyface UI. |
| 01:34.21 | Nocts | But who says I can't get thebest for my RAM while still having a good feature set? |
| 01:34.55 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (n=Arrow@cpe-71-64-143-75.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 01:35.11 | Pkekyo| | how much do your wow client use on average, and how much do you have? |
| 01:35.22 | Towbar | the difference between 810 kb and 2 mb is huge on a 2 gig system! |
| 01:35.22 | *** join/#wowace sylvaan (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116) |
| 01:35.35 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: really? |
| 01:35.44 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56480 10PowerDisplay/pdStats.lua: PowerDisplay: No longer needed |
| 01:35.48 | Towbar | nope that was a sad attempt at sarcasm |
| 01:35.57 | Pkekyo| | was hoping so |
| 01:36.01 | Towbar | indeed |
| 01:36.26 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56481 10PowerDisplay/ (5 files): PowerDisplay: ALL options are now saved per character |
| 01:36.35 | Pkekyo| | well, ofcourse there's the ones that like purty, tiny numbers...but there's no real practical reason why you would have to kill off all addons that use a little bit of memory |
| 01:36.47 | Towbar | I am not that pernicity |
| 01:36.53 | Pkekyo| | ...unless you run the 1991 IBM Shite-o-Matic |
| 01:37.10 | Towbar | 50mb when i oad wow |
| 01:37.12 | Towbar | load* |
| 01:37.30 | Xyphor|BBL | sorry for that extra SVN line :s |
| 01:37.42 | *** join/#wowace Gl0bal (n=e@cpe-67-49-60-144.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 01:37.43 | Pkekyo| | I stopped giving a flying fuck about memory usage when I popped my 2nd 512 into the motherboard :> |
| 01:37.49 | Towbar | hehe |
| 01:38.16 | thul | 1808 Safari 3.6% 8:57.65 11 262 1640 250M 37.5M 259M 779M |
| 01:38.17 | ag` | 1024 is not enough if you want wow to run 100% smooth |
| 01:38.18 | Towbar | computing starts with two cores and two gig |
| 01:38.18 | thul | i hate safari |
| 01:38.21 | Towbar | :D |
| 01:38.22 | thul | :-( |
| 01:38.22 | Nocts | ffs, such idiots. |
| 01:38.26 | *** part/#wowace Nocts (n=Nocts@pool-72-69-14-41.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:38.51 | Pkekyo| | ag`: I'm running at 3gb now... popped my 2nd 512 in in like...2001 or something |
| 01:39.02 | Towbar | whom and in what repsect? |
| 01:39.04 | Pkekyo| | hms, someone loves free RAM too much, it seems :p |
| 01:39.04 | Xyphor | ok, I'm not gonna say anything now :p |
| 01:39.16 | Pkekyo| | spare RAM* |
| 01:39.19 | thul | itunes and safari use 50% of my ram. |
| 01:39.25 | thul | and i have 2.5GB in my macbook |
| 01:39.27 | Towbar | file cache is very nice |
| 01:39.27 | thul | i dislike that. |
| 01:39.35 | Pkekyo| | stop using safari and bloody itunes then? |
| 01:39.40 | thul | right. |
| 01:39.45 | thul | like firefox or opera drains less ram :-P |
| 01:39.47 | Towbar | when using word project visio sage etc regularly |
| 01:39.54 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: eh, the ram usage really isn't the problem |
| 01:39.55 | Pkekyo| | thul: text browsing ftw |
| 01:40.01 | Towbar | firefox has a def memleak atm |
| 01:40.06 | thul | Pkekyo|: right, good for you. |
| 01:40.12 | Xyphor | My firefox uses (only?) 35 MB atm |
| 01:40.13 | Towbar | lynx is nice |
| 01:40.14 | NightHawkTheSane | safari isn't bad, itunes is a bit of a cpu hog though |
| 01:40.15 | Towbar | fast |
| 01:40.16 | thul | I prefer my sites purty |
| 01:40.17 | Towbar | but basic |
| 01:40.46 | Pkekyo| | thul: true, the glory of porn kinda fades when you run a text only browser :p |
| 01:40.50 | Towbar | lol |
| 01:40.59 | thul | firefox is now using 40M + 400M vm after 10 seconds :-( |
| 01:41.05 | *** join/#wowace xyu (n=blahblah@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:41.14 | Xyphor | I turned off all vm :p |
| 01:41.27 | Xyphor | 35MB running all day |
| 01:41.34 | FtH|Daemona | 1GB, form factor: DIMM 1GB, form factor: DIMM |
| 01:41.34 | aestil | VM? |
| 01:41.37 | Xyphor | may be a bit higher with more tabs open |
| 01:41.38 | Pkekyo| | opera's at 115k, 110VM |
| 01:41.46 | FtH|Daemona | hmm strange buttons :D |
| 01:41.47 | thul | I would love something as light and fast as dillo, with search function (apple-f/ctrl-f) as safari 3/firefox |
| 01:41.50 | thul | that is all i want :-P |
| 01:41.51 | Pkekyo| | running arseloads of tabs, irc and BT client etc though |
| 01:42.05 | thul | why top is using 10% cpu is harder to understand |
| 01:42.06 | Towbar | no way pk |
| 01:42.15 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: hms? |
| 01:42.17 | Towbar | i got 80 mb on firefox with usual tabs |
| 01:42.20 | thul | 778 top 9.5% 8:55:35 1 26 21 704K 832K 1.55M 27.0M |
| 01:42.25 | thul | that is just plain weird |
| 01:42.28 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: er, no? |
| 01:42.33 | CIA-8 | 03morgalm * r56482 10MorgDKP/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:42.33 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
| 01:42.33 | CIA-8 | - added support for eqdkp+ multidkp |
| 01:42.33 | CIA-8 | - tweaked sorting |
| 01:42.33 | CIA-8 | - fixed error adding new members using morgimport |
| 01:42.33 | CIA-8 | - added ability to click any name on the tablet to award loot to that player regardless of bid status |
| 01:42.37 | thul | ofcourse it is :-( |
| 01:42.37 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: when you're running top, it needs to process the data, that takes cpu :P |
| 01:42.38 | Towbar | 180 kb woth all those protocols is absurbed |
| 01:42.40 | Xyphor | you guys make me want to go back to my linux days again :( |
| 01:42.41 | thul | ofcourse |
| 01:42.42 | Towbar | with* |
| 01:42.43 | thul | but 10%?! |
| 01:42.48 | thul | that is lots of cpu :-P |
| 01:42.52 | NightHawkTheSane | 10% is pretty minimal |
| 01:43.00 | Towbar | linux is nice :) |
| 01:43.00 | thul | itunes uses far less :-P |
| 01:43.17 | Pkekyo| | thul: what was using 10% cpu? |
| 01:43.20 | thul | Pkekyo|: top |
| 01:43.23 | Xyphor | I love Linux, but I use too much programs not supported by it and without a good enough alternative |
| 01:43.26 | thul | down to 9.2% now :-P |
| 01:43.31 | Pkekyo| | thul: top? |
| 01:43.32 | CIA-8 | 03ricowan * r56483 10FuBar_PetFu/PetFu.lua: FuBar_PetFu: - Removed PlaySound hack |
| 01:43.35 | thul | Pkekyo|: yes, top. |
| 01:43.38 | Xyphor | although I should retry it after a year |
| 01:43.40 | Pkekyo| | thul: top? |
| 01:43.41 | thul | if you're in a terminal: type top and press enter |
| 01:43.42 | thul | :-P |
| 01:43.48 | Olison | -.- |
| 01:43.49 | Xyphor | lol |
| 01:43.52 | Pkekyo| | and if not on a mac? |
| 01:43.52 | thul | top(1) top(1) |
| 01:43.53 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: like i said, given what top is doing, i don't think that's too out of line |
| 01:43.54 | thul | NAME top - display and update sorted information about processes |
| 01:44.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: its a standard unix utility |
| 01:44.03 | thul | Pkekyo|: if you are on an unix/linux/hp.. |
| 01:44.21 | Pkekyo| | win xp for mah purty gaem< |
| 01:44.21 | thul | (what is it with the *x n00bs these days.. :-P ) |
| 01:44.22 | Towbar | ps -aux |
| 01:44.23 | Pkekyo| | gaemz* |
| 01:44.40 | Towbar | xp 64 on this box |
| 01:44.42 | Towbar | :/ |
| 01:44.43 | thul | but anyway, bedtime |
| 01:44.44 | thul | nite nite |
| 01:44.51 | Pkekyo| | g'nite |
| 01:44.53 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: Pkekyo|'s just a noob in general ;) |
| 01:44.56 | sylvaan | thats always distressing |
| 01:45.01 | Towbar | but its my game / encode xvid to dvd box |
| 01:45.37 | Xyphor | Towbar... XP64 is sooooooo bad |
| 01:45.42 | Pkekyo| | is xp 64 actually compatible with anything at all? |
| 01:45.45 | Xyphor | It's not even based on xp |
| 01:45.47 | Towbar | not with 2 gig or more |
| 01:45.58 | Towbar | and with 15 aps open its awesome |
| 01:46.02 | Towbar | apps |
| 01:46.14 | Towbar | however, back to my origonal question |
| 01:46.18 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116) |
| 01:46.31 | Towbar | is anyone here a quartz coder or know any? |
| 01:46.34 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56484 10SilverDragon/ (Core.lua Defaults.lua dataminer.lua): |
| 01:46.34 | CIA-8 | SilverDragon: |
| 01:46.34 | CIA-8 | -Commit dataminer to extract rare info from wowhead. |
| 01:46.34 | CIA-8 | -Regenerated rare defaults. |
| 01:46.35 | sylvanaar | annoying |
| 01:46.38 | Pkekyo| | ~quartz |
| 01:46.39 | purl | [quartz] a new KWin client written by gallium, or a lot of things |
| 01:46.49 | Xyphor | Xp64 is based on Windows 2003, which makes it incompatible with about everything |
| 01:46.51 | Towbar | ~creative |
| 01:46.51 | purl | creative is probably http://opensource.creative.com |
| 01:46.52 | *** join/#wowace aestil (n=holycall@cpe-72-129-96-142.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 01:46.54 | sylvanaar | i like silverdragon - handy mod |
| 01:46.54 | Pkekyo| | guess that's the wrong quartz |
| 01:47.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Towbar: have you considered checking the toc for the author? |
| 01:47.04 | Towbar | ~creativfix |
| 01:47.12 | Towbar | ~creativefix |
| 01:47.13 | purl | Open your registry editor and navigate to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CreativeTech\Emu10kx\DriverSettings\Wave\Pin#00000002 ", then change the Turbo value from 1 to 0, then reboot. |
| 01:47.14 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: win2k3? a server or NT client? |
| 01:47.17 | Towbar | still ther :D |
| 01:47.19 | Towbar | there* |
| 01:47.35 | Kemayo | sylvanaar: It should be appreciably more handy after the changes I committed last night -- it'll handle pathing mobs way better. |
| 01:47.37 | Towbar | 2.2 sound fix for creative owners i put in |
| 01:47.39 | Xyphor | Not sure about that Pkekyo| |
| 01:48.02 | Pkekyo| | why the hell would I write '2k3'? that's just stupid...my cs-gaming days are catching up with me again :< |
| 01:48.05 | sylvanaar | Kemayo awesome |
| 01:48.07 | starlon | Towbar: You might try asking here - http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6006.0 |
| 01:48.18 | Xyphor | But the fact that xp63 is not based on xp (only the layout) makes it incompatible and a bad produc |
| 01:48.32 | Pkekyo| | haven't heard about 'windows 2003' before, so I'm guessing it's either an NT build or a server build |
| 01:48.43 | Xyphor | It is NT, that's for sure |
| 01:48.44 | Towbar | starlon: i am more direct |
| 01:48.53 | Lukian | 2003 is 5.3 |
| 01:48.54 | Towbar | i prefer trying to speaking to teh source directly |
| 01:48.57 | Lukian | 5.2* |
| 01:48.58 | Pkekyo| | I'm guessing NT5 |
| 01:48.59 | Towbar | the* |
| 01:49.01 | Xyphor | Servers are also NT nowadays :p |
| 01:49.07 | Pkekyo| | 5/5.2...close enough |
| 01:49.14 | Lukian | aye |
| 01:49.30 | Pkekyo| | did they get to NT6 yet? |
| 01:49.39 | Towbar | "they" wish |
| 01:49.50 | Pkekyo| | haven't paid any attention since NT4 tbh |
| 01:49.54 | Xyphor | Vista = 6.0 |
| 01:50.04 | Towbar | hence "they" wish |
| 01:50.06 | Pkekyo| | then the NT series took a REALLY bad turn |
| 01:50.10 | Xyphor | Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000] |
| 01:50.43 | kenlyric | version numbers are meaningless in software these days. |
| 01:50.44 | Pkekyo| | win NT4 used to wtfbbqpwn for MS Office....vista is just utterly fucking useless |
| 01:50.49 | kenlyric | it's all just marketing. |
| 01:50.52 | Towbar | was working on a vista box teh other day, everytime you opened my computer .net crashed and teh pc restarted |
| 01:51.03 | Towbar | the |
| 01:51.09 | Towbar | wtb new fingers :( |
| 01:51.09 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: ain't the MS revolution grand? :) |
| 01:51.17 | Towbar | pk: indeed |
| 01:51.18 | Xyphor | Pkekyo| not super useless, it's progress on Windows overall. Just too much eyecandy to be functional |
| 01:51.23 | aestil | i've heard that mostly vista is good. |
| 01:51.41 | aestil | Xyphor, all that eye candy is disableable, yes? |
| 01:51.44 | aestil | i'm still runing xp. |
| 01:51.44 | Towbar | lets integrate .net teh most unstable api ever since java into our new OS and whine when it crashese |
| 01:51.46 | Xyphor | Yup |
| 01:51.52 | Xyphor | Well, mostly I must say |
| 01:51.54 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: on my laptop I'm running (enforced) vista...with all eyecandy disabled...it's still utter bollocks |
| 01:52.06 | aestil | i don't really know what .net is. so i cant even relate to why its bad. |
| 01:52.14 | Kerafyrm | vista makes the cake cry |
| 01:52.30 | aestil | i dunno about this btw. chatzilla seems better than mIRC. |
| 01:52.30 | kenlyric | too bad about your broken computers. |
| 01:52.30 | Pkekyo| | lol, indeed |
| 01:52.31 | Xyphor | I use Vista at this very moment, it IS very workable and gameable :p |
| 01:52.34 | aestil | what are other good chat clients? |
| 01:52.37 | Towbar | noone knows what .net is because every time they try find out it crashes |
| 01:52.37 | kenlyric | aestil: duh? |
| 01:52.50 | aestil | i don't like having to 'pay' for firefox, when i'm not using firefox. |
| 01:52.52 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: you have my condolances |
| 01:52.53 | Kemayo | aestil: irssi. :D |
| 01:52.58 | Pkekyo| | aestil: use Opera :p |
| 01:52.59 | kenlyric | aestil: good point |
| 01:53.03 | kenlyric | use opera chat then |
| 01:53.13 | Towbar | aestil :D |
| 01:53.15 | aestil | Pkekyo| not using opera anymore. |
| 01:53.22 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|... what else should I use... I unfortunately need Windows and I need 64-bit OS |
| 01:53.27 | kenlyric | browsing with lynx? |
| 01:53.28 | Xyphor | XP64 is NOT an option |
| 01:53.35 | kenlyric | this is right. |
| 01:53.42 | aestil | so, anyone? is irssi an actual suggestion? |
| 01:53.43 | Towbar | xp64 >>> vista |
| 01:53.49 | kenlyric | xp64 is never an option. |
| 01:53.53 | Towbar | why? |
| 01:53.58 | kenlyric | xp64 is complete fail. |
| 01:54.01 | Xyphor | As I said before... xp64 is incompatible with about everything :p |
| 01:54.03 | Towbar | have you used it daily for a year or more? |
| 01:54.03 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: I don't know, but if I had a choise at all, I sure as hell wouldn't touch vista, even if you threw it after me with a gazillion dollars bundled |
| 01:54.09 | Towbar | is it? |
| 01:54.12 | kenlyric | it's like the windows95 of 64 bit applications |
| 01:54.13 | sylvanaar | nobody NEEDS a 64 bi os |
| 01:54.17 | Towbar | do you know this or assume? |
| 01:54.25 | Xyphor | sylvanaar: you need with 4Gb mem or more |
| 01:54.30 | sylvanaar | no you dont |
| 01:54.33 | Towbar | 2 gig or more |
| 01:54.39 | Towbar | and it is more efficient |
| 01:54.39 | Diao | you need to pay for firefox? o_O |
| 01:54.42 | kenlyric | oh wow. |
| 01:54.43 | Xyphor | Towbar: that's not true :p |
| 01:54.46 | Towbar | i wouldpay for firefox |
| 01:54.48 | kenlyric | why is there so much fail in this channel? |
| 01:54.49 | sylvanaar | yes - thats different than NEED |
| 01:54.59 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: no, that's need. |
| 01:55.00 | Pkekyo| | aestil: yeah, how the hell do you manage to -pay- for firefox? |
| 01:55.02 | JoshBorke | no one needs 64 bit os on a home computer |
| 01:55.10 | Towbar | xyphoir xp64 handles 2gig plus much better than xp |
| 01:55.11 | JoshBorke | used to do typical home things |
| 01:55.12 | sylvanaar | no, its just want |
| 01:55.17 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: sturgeon's law. |
| 01:55.41 | kenlyric | the question is, why does he need more than 4gb of ram :) |
| 01:55.47 | Xyphor | Well... Out of all Windowses out there I chose Vista 64 and happy with that choise (damn, still prefer Linux) |
| 01:56.15 | Xyphor | Because it's corporate machine too :p |
| 01:56.16 | kenlyric | vista64 is fine if you have drivers that work for it. |
| 01:56.26 | Towbar | so it is not fine then >.< |
| 01:56.28 | kenlyric | but you can't hack around drivers for it because it murders things it doesn't like. |
| 01:56.36 | Towbar | yet... |
| 01:56.50 | Towbar | I will buy vista at SP2 |
| 01:56.53 | Kerafyrm | its only a matter of time until linux is able to run most if not all windows programs |
| 01:57.01 | kenlyric | buying windows boggles my mind :) |
| 01:57.10 | Towbar | when i have a quad core 3 gig capable of running it properly |
| 01:57.11 | Pkekyo| | I will buy vista at the gates of hell....no, wait...I'd rather have a beer |
| 01:57.22 | Towbar | i always buy windows |
| 01:57.26 | kenlyric | I vastly prefer it but not for $200 |
| 01:57.33 | Towbar | one, company screwed if I do not... |
| 01:57.34 | Xyphor | At this moment I have both Vista and a beer :p |
| 01:57.37 | sylvanaar | you guys have have fun compiling your OS, no thanks |
| 01:57.43 | Towbar | 2, more stable than cracked copies by far |
| 01:57.51 | Kerafyrm | wtf GoogleOS |
| 01:57.52 | Kerafyrm | err |
| 01:57.54 | Kerafyrm | wtb* |
| 01:57.55 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: honestly, if I have to pay, I'll get a mac. |
| 01:57.58 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: and still you manage to have so much fail? :p |
| 01:58.00 | Xyphor | sylvanaar! Plz shut it :( I miss compiling my own kernels /cry |
| 01:58.09 | Towbar | i miss mall |
| 01:58.11 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: I blame the beer :p |
| 01:58.12 | kenlyric | or just go to linux and suffer through wine. |
| 01:58.12 | Towbar | make all |
| 01:58.24 | Towbar | i still use linux for alot |
| 01:58.33 | sylvanaar | linux invariably leads to kernel compilation - all roads lead there |
| 01:58.37 | aestil | irrsi is too advanced. |
| 01:58.39 | Xyphor | kenlyric: I couldn't get some corporate apps to work on wine :( |
| 01:58.42 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: I blame idiocy |
| 01:58.44 | aestil | i need something as easy to start using as chatzilla is. |
| 01:58.50 | Towbar | however it must me said that MS programs are vastly superior in most end user cases for easy for use |
| 01:58.51 | aestil | but something that isn't as ugly as mIRC is. |
| 01:59.01 | kenlyric | Xyphor: well that's why your corporation pays for it, like me :) |
| 01:59.11 | Pkekyo| | aestil: mIRC with nonamescript! :p |
| 01:59.13 | Xyphor | true :p |
| 01:59.19 | Towbar | bitchx ftw |
| 01:59.28 | Towbar | i jsut cba scanning ah and switching pc |
| 01:59.32 | Olison | comming back tomorrow, see ya |
| 01:59.33 | *** part/#wowace Olison (i=fireglow@kittenguild.com) |
| 01:59.39 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: if irssi's too advanced, then it's good excuse to learn it, eh? :P |
| 01:59.40 | kenlyric | aestil: pidgin irc? |
| 01:59.43 | aestil | uh. Pkekyo|dunno what that means. why isn't there a good client that isn't A) linked to a browser or B) ugly. |
| 01:59.44 | Pkekyo| | Towbarhowever it must me said that MS programs are vastly superior in most end user cases for easy for use <---- considering that most end users are clueless twats? yes... |
| 01:59.56 | Towbar | totally |
| 02:00.01 | Towbar | hence my statelent |
| 02:00.02 | Pkekyo| | aestil: get scripts for irc to make it purtypurty |
| 02:00.07 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@ti0013a380-0381.bb.online.no) |
| 02:00.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
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| 02:00.15 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane, yes, probably. but, i unziped it, and it was like.... wow. this is nasty, what is it? |
| 02:00.17 | Pkekyo| | but then again, most end users can stuff it |
| 02:00.18 | Xyphor | Sorry for this line: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Tomorrow I have my G15 and G7 :p |
| 02:00.24 | Towbar | one must always assume the end user is clueless |
| 02:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | irssi's basically the mecca of irc clients. |
| 02:00.31 | Xyphor | lol |
| 02:00.33 | Towbar | that is my secret to sucess! |
| 02:00.41 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane, is there an easymode version to it? |
| 02:00.42 | Towbar | and I still cannot speeeel prooper |
| 02:00.47 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56485 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Account for possibility of t==nil in LastSeen. |
| 02:00.49 | starlon | irssi+screen=win |
| 02:00.51 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: pfft. :P |
| 02:00.55 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: I'd rather say 'one must always attempt to shaft the clueless twat of an end user in any way possible' |
| 02:01.01 | Towbar | lol |
| 02:01.12 | NightHawkTheSane | there might be builds that give you nice pretty gui options, I don't know, though |
| 02:01.13 | aestil | i clicked this one thing, and something came up. then i clicked something else and it said 'hey, you've never used this before, read this book first'. |
| 02:01.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I know there are for mac. |
| 02:01.31 | Towbar | osx is nice |
| 02:01.49 | Kemayo | aestil: http://irssi.org/documentation/startup |
| 02:01.51 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: I'm being a huge hypocrite here now, but screw the end user! :p |
| 02:01.52 | Towbar | but try sell a non windows box in the UK to someone who is not a photoshop user.... |
| 02:02.04 | Towbar | pkekyo: agree |
| 02:02.17 | sylvanaar | you guys are nuts, apple is all about the hardware lock-in |
| 02:02.24 | Towbar | in the past yes |
| 02:02.24 | sylvanaar | i had one for ages |
| 02:02.29 | Xyphor | sylvanaar: lol? Not anymore |
| 02:02.33 | aestil | irssi v0.8.12 |
| 02:02.37 | Towbar | but now the photoshop difference is not huge |
| 02:02.37 | sylvanaar | no |
| 02:02.41 | aestil | welcome to irssi, xxxx |
| 02:02.42 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, for fucks sake, can we not get into that kind of discussion please? |
| 02:02.44 | aestil | now what? |
| 02:03.20 | kenlyric | vista64 is more about the hardware lock-in than MacOS is now :) |
| 02:03.21 | Pkekyo| | I'd love to get myself a mac.... but I can't to pay more than twice the price to have the bloody plastic casing painted white with a logo on it |
| 02:03.24 | Towbar | is crisis worth buying or downloading? |
| 02:03.25 | Kemayo | aestil: Just for starters... "/server irc.freenode.org" |
| 02:03.25 | Towbar | ? |
| 02:03.31 | Towbar | crysys**? |
| 02:03.38 | Pkekyo| | vist + hardware = fucking nightmare |
| 02:03.42 | Towbar | rofl |
| 02:03.45 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: crysis? I'd say go buy it |
| 02:03.46 | sylvanaar | see there is hate on the mac side to |
| 02:03.48 | Pkekyo| | vista* |
| 02:03.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: to nitpick, most macs these days actually have alluminum cases, not plastic. :P |
| 02:03.57 | starlon | Leoptard is just as bad as Vista I hear |
| 02:04.00 | Towbar | i will buy it no probs if it is not sh1t |
| 02:04.03 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: haven't touched one for years, sorry |
| 02:04.10 | Towbar | but I have had so many mixed opnions |
| 02:04.15 | Pkekyo| | starlon: bug-o-rama indeed |
| 02:04.15 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: My computer hardware is all installed by default install + Windows Update (yes, network card = default install) |
| 02:04.34 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: now try changing your DVD-ROM :) |
| 02:04.35 | kenlyric | starlon: and hey, people only payed $69 for that minor update. |
| 02:04.44 | Towbar | see where you went wrong there: "windows update" |
| 02:04.45 | kenlyric | vista was $200+ for that minor update which sucked. |
| 02:04.58 | Xyphor | I don't have a spare atm :p (ok, one old DVD-RAM drive) |
| 02:05.05 | Xyphor | but it's white! |
| 02:05.09 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane, ok, it conected. |
| 02:05.14 | Pkekyo| | well, go buy one, then watch Vista blow up in your face :) |
| 02:05.15 | Xyphor | and SCSI... |
| 02:05.19 | starlon | So pain costs more from MS |
| 02:05.19 | Towbar | "Lets make a driver that doe not actually USE the hardware and deplot it to teh masses!!!!" |
| 02:05.22 | aestil | but when i msg nickserv i can't get the help msg. |
| 02:05.25 | starlon | It's still pain |
| 02:05.25 | Towbar | does* |
| 02:05.32 | aestil | its usually in a nother window with chatzilla/mIRC |
| 02:05.33 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: I think I can conquer that |
| 02:05.35 | Towbar | deploy* |
| 02:05.39 | aestil | where is the other window with irssi? |
| 02:05.41 | Towbar | meh i suck at typing |
| 02:05.45 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: howso? |
| 02:05.49 | Xyphor | I suck at lua.. |
| 02:05.49 | Kemayo | aestil: Say "/q Nickserv" |
| 02:05.53 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: and you're telling me this, why? i don't even use irssi ;) |
| 02:06.04 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: I have more patient then Vista :p |
| 02:06.10 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane, you shouldn't have helped me to begin with then :) |
| 02:06.12 | Towbar | i got a kid |
| 02:06.17 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: you have more what? |
| 02:06.19 | Towbar | that tries my patience enough |
| 02:06.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I didn't! i just said irssi was nice, and powerful, and that you ought to learn it. that's hardly helpful ;) |
| 02:06.26 | Towbar | I cannot tolerate vista |
| 02:06.31 | Xyphor | What Towbar said :p |
| 02:06.33 | Pkekyo| | either I'm tired, or you suck at making sentences |
| 02:06.45 | Xyphor | both |
| 02:07.06 | Pkekyo| | sounds like a fair estimate |
| 02:07.18 | Towbar | afk bio |
| 02:07.24 | Towbar | will read bac l:) |
| 02:07.28 | Towbar | back* |
| 02:07.42 | Pkekyo| | I would rather shoot myself in the bollocks than run vista on my home tower |
| 02:07.50 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: try a desktop :p |
| 02:08.01 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: hms? |
| 02:08.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Towbar: ... there's no need to inform us of that |
| 02:08.06 | *** join/#wowace Tim__ (n=Tim@cpe-72-129-96-142.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 02:08.17 | Pkekyo| | I've got the feeling neither of us is making any sense at all |
| 02:08.18 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 02:08.22 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: i wanted to know :( |
| 02:08.25 | kenlyric | it's all right to hate vista in regards to mac or linux, but to hate it in regards to XP just means your PC sucks balls. |
| 02:08.32 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: ... oh, well, my bad! carry on! |
| 02:08.35 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: Don't ask me to explain a joke plz ^^ |
| 02:08.37 | kenlyric | turn off the sidebar and enjoy your better OS. |
| 02:08.44 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: my PC is fine, vista however, is not |
| 02:08.58 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: irony, sarcasm and such does not work on zeh intarwebs |
| 02:09.13 | Pkekyo| | sidebar has naught to do with it |
| 02:09.26 | Pkekyo| | granted, the sidebar is truly fugly and annoying |
| 02:09.26 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: it did one day... where did it end? |
| 02:09.41 | Pkekyo| | in panama? O.o |
| 02:09.44 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: either blame your hardware or the driver manufacturers. vista does practically everything better. And utilizes resources better. Just make sure to turn of the sidebar. |
| 02:09.48 | Xyphor | The sidebar is fun for nub home users |
| 02:09.49 | kenlyric | sidebar will EAT YOUR fAMILY |
| 02:10.02 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: it also pisses me the fuck off better.... |
| 02:10.21 | Xyphor | The best about the side bar? You can easily disable it! |
| 02:10.46 | kenlyric | that's the only thing about the sidebar. |
| 02:10.55 | kenlyric | if you use the sidebar, you hate freedom |
| 02:11.00 | sylvanaar | yeah that sidebar is stupid |
| 02:11.06 | sylvanaar | i can agree on that point |
| 02:11.08 | Pkekyo| | I haven't even looked at my XP box in anger for years... |
| 02:11.08 | Pkekyo| | configuring my brother's vista laptop had me screaming in rage and agony within two minutes passed |
| 02:11.23 | sylvanaar | drama queen |
| 02:11.28 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, wahts so bad about this sidebar? i havn't seen it.. |
| 02:11.40 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: it's there :p |
| 02:11.40 | Xyphor | Still I understand why Microsoft included it. That part of the screen is hardly used by home users and now they can add funky eyecandy for them <3 <3 |
| 02:12.09 | kenlyric | if you want a useless program ot use 100mb of ram before it loads anything but the clock, sidebar is fine. |
| 02:12.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: yeah, thanks for that idiotic and useless response. anyone else feel like actually answering the question? :P |
| 02:12.29 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: memoryhog like a motherfucker...also known for eating families |
| 02:12.34 | sylvanaar | it has some gui widgets that show information |
| 02:12.44 | kenlyric | doesn't everyone run maximized? |
| 02:12.48 | sylvanaar | clock, weather, whatever |
| 02:13.04 | sylvanaar | think widescreen monitor |
| 02:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 02:13.15 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: run what maximized? |
| 02:13.21 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: everything. |
| 02:13.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that would be obnoxious |
| 02:13.31 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: no, no I don't |
| 02:13.33 | sylvanaar | i dock trillian on the right |
| 02:13.37 | khangg | what's an addon that stops the addon loading messages to appear? |
| 02:13.38 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: trust me, it is |
| 02:13.50 | Lukian | kenlyric, anyone with a high res / widescreen monitor doesn't use maximised |
| 02:13.56 | khangg | ah, found it. |
| 02:14.01 | Xyphor | khangg: spammenot |
| 02:14.08 | sylvanaar | only thing that runs maximized is visualstudio |
| 02:14.15 | Xyphor | damn, wrong one |
| 02:14.17 | sylvanaar | omg dont run spammenot |
| 02:14.23 | Towbar | pk: lol, hight: true |
| 02:14.29 | Xyphor | !StopTheSpam |
| 02:14.32 | Towbar | lukian: me |
| 02:14.34 | Xyphor | sylvanaar, why not? |
| 02:14.44 | kenlyric | Lukian: so you're saying maybe i should stop? |
| 02:14.47 | Towbar | oops |
| 02:14.49 | Towbar | read wrong |
| 02:14.58 | *** join/#wowace aestil (n=holycall@cpe-72-129-96-142.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 02:15.01 | Towbar | yea i use window max res cause of sedond monitore |
| 02:15.05 | Towbar | monitor |
| 02:15.10 | Towbar | second* |
| 02:15.16 | Xyphor | lol |
| 02:15.22 | Lukian | kenlyric, *shrug* I haven't used a high res / wide screen monitor yet, so I don't know what the fuss is about yet |
| 02:15.24 | aestil | irssi is fail. i give up. |
| 02:15.24 | sylvanaar | idk, maybe he fixed it, but he hooked something nasty, i forget what now |
| 02:15.29 | kenlyric | I guess browser is the only thing I run full screen. |
| 02:15.36 | Xyphor | sylvanaar: I didn't notice anything so far |
| 02:15.39 | Towbar | can we jsut assume my typing sucks cause my fingers are all bent and I do not have to correct? |
| 02:15.43 | Pkekyo| | aestil: your thesis is incorrect. you + irssi = fail :p |
| 02:15.49 | Lukian | aestil, irssi is the best irc client. :) |
| 02:15.51 | Pkekyo| | irssi =/= fail |
| 02:15.55 | sylvanaar | spammenot - isnt that anti-goldspam |
| 02:15.56 | Towbar | that and i am on my second bottle of red wine |
| 02:16.06 | Xyphor | sylvanaar: yes, I made mistake back there |
| 02:16.10 | kenlyric | it's why I detest websites that artificially limit the screen width. |
| 02:16.23 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: if you're gonna get drunk on irc, atleast find some proper booze |
| 02:16.34 | Towbar | red wine owns |
| 02:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on what -kind- of red wine |
| 02:16.43 | Towbar | cause the bottle of gin ran out |
| 02:16.44 | sylvanaar | yeah, it just caused lots of problems at one point - imo you dont need antispam now |
| 02:16.50 | Xyphor | ./drinking Grolsch |
| 02:16.53 | Towbar | from northern ireland |
| 02:16.59 | Towbar | we have to drink by law |
| 02:17.06 | Towbar | or you goto jail! |
| 02:17.08 | kenlyric | i've been trying to convert so I can watch QT videos while browsing at home on my one monitor... it's a hard habit to break. |
| 02:17.16 | Pkekyo| | that's it, I'm moving to ireland |
| 02:17.18 | Xyphor | sylvanaar: On my server plz don't try to stand it Org without it :p |
| 02:17.23 | Pkekyo| | ...when my liver's not fuckedup anymore :> |
| 02:17.25 | kenlyric | someone club apple for making a media player without a Stay on Top option. |
| 02:17.33 | sylvanaar | ah, ok |
| 02:17.36 | Towbar | whats a liver? |
| 02:17.40 | Towbar | :P |
| 02:17.41 | sylvanaar | spamsentry was better |
| 02:17.47 | kenlyric | it's that thing the hepatitis destroyed |
| 02:17.51 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: the thing you're ruining with your wine atm |
| 02:17.57 | Xyphor | I'm just happy with the results of spammenot |
| 02:18.02 | Towbar | pk: red wine is kindest |
| 02:18.11 | Towbar | my ex was a wine consultant so i got into it |
| 02:18.12 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: it wasn't to me :< |
| 02:18.12 | sylvanaar | kk |
| 02:18.29 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i wish i could have QT fullscreened on one monitor and still work in the second. >< |
| 02:18.33 | Pkekyo| | meh, sod it, I just hate the taste of it :> |
| 02:18.44 | Towbar | then try nice red wine :) |
| 02:18.45 | kenlyric | you can't do that? |
| 02:18.56 | kenlyric | don't I do that at work on my dual monitors? |
| 02:18.57 | khangg | what's an alternative to CML? |
| 02:18.59 | Xyphor | You guys keep me from coding... |
| 02:19.00 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: nah, sod it, vodka ftw |
| 02:19.08 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: no, if QT Player isn't the front most app, it automatically drops out of full screen modee |
| 02:19.13 | Xyphor | khangg: fanny, I used to addon to create my own :) |
| 02:19.16 | kenlyric | oh. |
| 02:19.21 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: cry me a river :> |
| 02:19.24 | Towbar | with vodka I would pick a fight with my shadow so I have not drank it since i was.. |
| 02:19.26 | kenlyric | I just maximize. |
| 02:19.27 | Towbar | 19 or so |
| 02:19.31 | khangg | Xyphor, care to share? :o |
| 02:19.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Towbar: "red wine"? what kind? there's quite a number of types |
| 02:19.32 | kenlyric | guess i don't trully fullscreen |
| 02:19.42 | Xyphor | share what? |
| 02:19.45 | Towbar | nighthawk i prefer austrialian shiraz |
| 02:19.49 | Towbar | a nice heavy wine |
| 02:19.58 | Towbar | cab sauv is also nice |
| 02:19.59 | khangg | you created your own addon to do what CML does no? |
| 02:20.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Towbar: okay, cool. i was just curious. :) |
| 02:20.06 | Towbar | :) |
| 02:20.15 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: well, maybe your shadow was askin' for it! :p |
| 02:20.19 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: yeah, i end up just maximizing too, but fullscreen is a bit bigger, and fits a bit nicer on widescreen monitors |
| 02:20.29 | Towbar | pk: not when it is a family member :(( |
| 02:20.31 | *** join/#wowace mort_ (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 02:20.32 | Xyphor | No, I used to basics of CML to create another addon which contains text only (but diff function). I had nu LUA experience at all :p |
| 02:20.32 | krka | Xyphor: Lua is not an acronym. It is a portuguese word that means moon. |
| 02:20.42 | Xyphor | krka: you say that all the time :p |
| 02:20.43 | Towbar | so have not drank it in 9 or 10 years |
| 02:20.45 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: you consider your shadow a family member? O.o |
| 02:20.51 | kenlyric | incoming rickroll on family guy. |
| 02:20.51 | khangg | Xyphor, ah okay :P |
| 02:20.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i bet krka has trigger to do that |
| 02:20.53 | Towbar | whiskey onthe other hand... |
| 02:21.02 | Pkekyo| | I consider my shadow a polite stalker, at best! :p |
| 02:21.11 | Towbar | enough drink talk |
| 02:21.23 | Towbar | prefer PC talk with people of these minds :D |
| 02:21.41 | Towbar | nice to talk to people that dont gaze at you as if you have removed their frontal lobes |
| 02:21.59 | kenlyric | i'm pretty sure you can't see any of our faces, or the glaze on them. |
| 02:22.15 | Pkekyo| | rofl Towbar, all too true |
| 02:22.16 | Towbar | I am pretty sure you undertsand what i talk about |
| 02:22.20 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56486 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: When importing the old db, don't create stub locations for never seen mobs. |
| 02:22.24 | Towbar | pk ::) |
| 02:22.26 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56487 10PowerDisplay/ (pdMain.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: A few minor issues |
| 02:22.29 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr_ (n=folk@ti0013a380-0381.bb.online.no) |
| 02:22.56 | Pkekyo| | hms... ska is odd |
| 02:23.04 | Pkekyo| | kinda fun though |
| 02:23.10 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: oh, but if they could, it would totally be glzed |
| 02:23.59 | Orionshock | hehe... |
| 02:24.03 | Orionshock | http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_120207_192251.jpg |
| 02:24.10 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: got that exact reaction when I showed my mate a wicked guitar solo the other day |
| 02:24.35 | Towbar | pk: i wish I could play guitar |
| 02:24.41 | Xyphor | Orionshock: LOL! |
| 02:24.46 | Towbar | such an awesome instruiment |
| 02:24.50 | Pkekyo| | guess you'll have to be a musician to truly appreciate an insane solo |
| 02:24.55 | Pkekyo| | used to play the guitar...and the piano...but I quit :> |
| 02:24.59 | Orionshock | i leet hax |
| 02:24.59 | Towbar | i used to DJ some |
| 02:25.13 | Pkekyo| | play bass now :> |
| 02:25.13 | Pkekyo| | much more fun imo |
| 02:25.17 | *** join/#wowace Ackis (n=ackis@S0106000ea64881e9.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 02:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: how'd you manage that?:P |
| 02:25.24 | Pkekyo| | although, the guitarists get more girls >.< |
| 02:25.36 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.43 | Towbar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt1fB62cGbo |
| 02:25.49 | Towbar | check that out for guitar solo |
| 02:25.54 | Towbar | very nice |
| 02:26.01 | Towbar | toto - africa |
| 02:26.22 | Pkekyo| | that sounds extremely gay :p |
| 02:26.29 | Pkekyo| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmOBTP0iDqY I love this one though :> |
| 02:26.43 | Pkekyo| | been listening to it for about a week straight |
| 02:26.46 | Orionshock | NightHawkTheSane: you just got to know how to use the insert key correctly |
| 02:26.59 | Pkekyo| | now that kid can play |
| 02:27.03 | Towbar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9mEKMz2Pvo |
| 02:27.14 | Towbar | and that if you REALLY like string music |
| 02:27.28 | Pkekyo| | seen it :) |
| 02:27.38 | Pkekyo| | he's wicked |
| 02:27.42 | Towbar | loads of him on stadge6 |
| 02:27.45 | Towbar | nice :) |
| 02:27.48 | Pkekyo| | don't like the music though, but recognize the skills |
| 02:28.17 | Pkekyo| | when you talk strings, other than guitars/bass, this is pure win imo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E37-D7B0Wa8 |
| 02:28.35 | Towbar | checki9ng |
| 02:28.54 | Orionshock | http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_120207_192811.jpg |
| 02:29.04 | Towbar | commercial but yea its nice |
| 02:29.16 | Towbar | pk: i mean |
| 02:29.54 | Towbar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9mEKMz2Pvo |
| 02:30.03 | Towbar | give it till 1:15 when it gets awesome |
| 02:30.17 | *** join/#wowace Hisame (n=Hisame@cpe-075-181-050-152.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 02:30.23 | Towbar | reminds me of diablo at the start |
| 02:30.29 | Towbar | the game music |
| 02:30.31 | Pkekyo| | seen it tons of times before :) |
| 02:30.45 | Pkekyo| | never played diablo though |
| 02:30.49 | Towbar | :O |
| 02:30.51 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: what's with all the upside-down cows? |
| 02:30.52 | Towbar | was awesome |
| 02:30.53 | Towbar | DX3 |
| 02:31.05 | Towbar | such good gameplay |
| 02:31.19 | Towbar | was managing a computer shop when it came out |
| 02:31.25 | Towbar | took it home and copied it |
| 02:31.31 | Towbar | then bought it the next day |
| 02:31.39 | Pkekyo| | I got caught by the CS hype instead ;> |
| 02:31.42 | Towbar | dont mind paying for good games at all |
| 02:31.53 | Towbar | CS was good too |
| 02:32.36 | Pkekyo| | nah, I always pay for good games |
| 02:32.41 | Towbar | same |
| 02:32.45 | Pkekyo| | wouldn't dream of pirating a valve game |
| 02:32.51 | Towbar | but i am a firm advocate of try before you buy |
| 02:32.59 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 02:33.01 | Towbar | since so much crap is released |
| 02:33.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: diaf-- er.. i mean, hi! |
| 02:33.17 | Xinhuan | so |
| 02:33.21 | Xinhuan | i've got a problem |
| 02:33.29 | Towbar | dont we all :) |
| 02:33.32 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: as am I...to a certain extent... |
| 02:33.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i know a good psychologist. |
| 02:33.43 | Pkekyo| | rofl NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:33.44 | Xinhuan | i fell and injured on my left elbow, so its in a cast now |
| 02:34.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: eep. :\ my sympathies |
| 02:34.06 | Xinhuan | whats the best way to rebind all my spells/keys to 1 mouse? |
| 02:34.13 | Towbar | BT3 |
| 02:34.14 | Xinhuan | (im a mage) |
| 02:34.14 | Keias | roll a lock |
| 02:34.18 | Towbar | LOL |
| 02:34.20 | Towbar | hahah |
| 02:34.25 | Towbar | so true |
| 02:34.25 | NightHawkTheSane | haha... |
| 02:34.27 | Xinhuan | i have mouse1-mouse7 + scrollup/down ;p |
| 02:34.28 | Pkekyo| | rofl, too true Keias |
| 02:34.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: well, what do you use to bind keys now? :P |
| 02:34.50 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: can you reach the keyboard (alt/shift/ctrl modifiers)? |
| 02:34.59 | Towbar | athene must hate me, i am a clicker |
| 02:35.07 | Pkekyo| | Spellbinder would do the trick, I guess |
| 02:35.10 | Xinhuan | don't think so Pkekyo| |
| 02:35.18 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: I don't know about athene, but I surely hate you for being a clicker :p |
| 02:35.19 | Towbar | click for everything except hemo evasion vanish and sprint |
| 02:35.19 | Xinhuan | my right arm is the good arm |
| 02:35.25 | Xinhuan | which is on the mouse |
| 02:35.33 | Towbar | my fingers suck |
| 02:35.36 | Xinhuan | most i can reach is the numpad enter/+ key |
| 02:35.42 | Towbar | i can type fast |
| 02:35.43 | Xinhuan | with the thumb |
| 02:35.49 | Towbar | jsut it is not always correct |
| 02:35.53 | Towbar | just* |
| 02:35.55 | Xinhuan | so you can call me a clicker now |
| 02:36.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: well, if wow recognizes your mouse buttons, you can really just bind those directly, with your binding addon of choice. |
| 02:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | if not, you might look into some kind of 3rd party mouse driver software that lets you map mouse buttons to keyboard keys |
| 02:36.25 | Hisame | You could use clique or another like it to bind some specifics to friendly/hostile/etc frames |
| 02:36.29 | Xinhuan | so i should bind decurse to right click directly now? |
| 02:36.38 | Towbar | what class are you? |
| 02:36.44 | Xinhuan | that kills the context menu? |
| 02:36.48 | Xinhuan | mage |
| 02:37.05 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you said you had what, 7 buttons? you can bind say mouse 3 to remove curse on friendly targets, and frostbolt (or whatever) on hostile targets |
| 02:37.15 | Towbar | spec ice and make right mouse button frost bolt and middle mouse ice block and you will be fine! |
| 02:37.23 | Towbar | sorted! |
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| 02:37.29 | Xinhuan | i am ice actually |
| 02:37.33 | Towbar | lol |
| 02:37.46 | Xinhuan | definitely can't ab-rotate shit |
| 02:37.46 | Towbar | for raids what do you really need |
| 02:37.49 | Towbar | shaeep |
| 02:37.50 | Xinhuan | on 5 buttons |
| 02:37.51 | Towbar | sheep |
| 02:37.56 | Towbar | frost nova |
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| 02:37.59 | Towbar | frost bolt |
| 02:38.03 | Towbar | ice block |
| 02:38.05 | Towbar | and? |
| 02:38.09 | Pkekyo | fucksake, nastyass DC |
| 02:38.11 | Towbar | ice lance |
| 02:38.15 | Pkekyo | molyporph? |
| 02:38.22 | Towbar | sheep.... |
| 02:38.27 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.28 | Towbar | :) |
| 02:38.30 | Xinhuan | apparently wow recognizes my mouse6/7 as scrollup/down |
| 02:38.35 | Towbar | turtle owns u all |
| 02:38.41 | Xinhuan | is that wow or mouse driver issue? |
| 02:38.51 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: either or both or non |
| 02:38.52 | Pkekyo | e |
| 02:39.04 | Towbar | can use left and right for moving |
| 02:39.09 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:39.20 | Xinhuan | it will be messy |
| 02:39.22 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:39.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: i'd say a driver issue |
| 02:39.33 | Pkekyo | I've got too many 'yo momma' jokes stacked up, but after using one on the turks in my guild I don't dare anymore :p |
| 02:39.33 | Towbar | but as a frost mage you dont need mmuch else more than frostbolt and nova |
| 02:39.34 | Lukian | Xinhuan, haha, mine too and I use debian |
| 02:39.43 | Towbar | "need" |
| 02:39.56 | Xinhuan | well from a pve perspective |
| 02:39.56 | Towbar | was always a suse fan myself since 5 ish |
| 02:40.01 | Towbar | yast > all |
| 02:40.01 | Xinhuan | i need to AI and decurse |
| 02:40.30 | Towbar | you can get decursive and bind it to a macro keybinding |
| 02:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | well, ai can be clicked, you don't need a bind for that |
| 02:40.44 | Towbar | on my priest i love micoframe decrse |
| 02:40.55 | NightHawkTheSane | and imo, get something like clique, if you don't already that can help a bit |
| 02:40.58 | Towbar | microframe |
| 02:41.24 | Xinhuan | hmm |
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| 02:41.53 | Pkekyo| | hmm...I should get my arm in a cast... |
| 02:42.52 | Pkekyo| | her? who's her? |
| 02:43.01 | Towbar | lonnnnng storey |
| 02:43.21 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom. |
| 02:43.26 | Towbar | i could compare her to a leech |
| 02:43.28 | Pkekyo| | as are all stories worth hearing |
| 02:43.38 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: no u O.o |
| 02:43.43 | Towbar | nigh: I dont take mother insults kindly :) |
| 02:44.00 | Pkekyo| | Towbar: why not? |
| 02:44.07 | Towbar | immature imo |
| 02:44.16 | Towbar | and why insult someones mother |
| 02:44.21 | Towbar | seriousl;y |
| 02:44.24 | Pkekyo| | well, true...but imo, I find it amazing some people actually get offended by that crap anymore |
| 02:44.28 | Towbar | insult me all you like :D |
| 02:44.34 | Pkekyo| | the your mother-jokes died 15 years ago |
| 02:44.47 | Towbar | were I come from people dont do that |
| 02:44.51 | Towbar | thats all |
| 02:44.58 | Pkekyo| | where would that be? |
| 02:44.59 | Xyphor | I almost made a bad joke there Pkekyo|... |
| 02:45.04 | Towbar | northern ireland |
| 02:45.10 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 02:45.34 | Towbar | and you folks? |
| 02:45.35 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: then I almost came close to killing you. twice :> |
| 02:45.43 | Xyphor | twice? |
| 02:45.44 | Towbar | I am intrigued by the diversity... |
| 02:45.48 | Pkekyo| | hell |
| 02:45.51 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: ATELAST! |
| 02:45.55 | Xyphor | :( |
| 02:46.01 | Xyphor | But me is nice |
| 02:46.01 | Towbar | seriously though.. |
| 02:46.17 | Pkekyo| | lots of yanks in here |
| 02:46.17 | Towbar | really? |
| 02:46.24 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 02:46.37 | Towbar | aye is scottish or NI |
| 02:46.43 | Towbar | where are you from |
| 02:46.51 | Pkekyo| | norway |
| 02:46.55 | Towbar | k |
| 02:47.01 | Towbar | vent talk ftw i guess :D |
| 02:47.04 | Pkekyo| | picked it up when I was raping and pillaging further south xD |
| 02:47.10 | Towbar | lol :D |
| 02:47.24 | Pkekyo| | which reminds me...wtb horned helmet |
| 02:47.33 | Towbar | i know some swe that guildies taught me but i dare not repeat it |
| 02:47.43 | Towbar | its quit crude |
| 02:48.22 | Pkekyo| | let me guess.... 'slicka mina pungkulor'? 'äta dina pappors flänsost ifrĺn ollonet'? 'ĺk ĺt helvete med er, bögiga fittjävlar'? |
| 02:48.22 | Xyphor | najs? |
| 02:48.41 | Towbar | jag ville spruta dig i ögat |
| 02:48.47 | Towbar | ;) |
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| 02:48.50 | Pkekyo| | lame |
| 02:48.55 | Pkekyo| | l2flänsost |
| 02:48.55 | Towbar | no wai |
| 02:48.59 | Towbar | fitte |
| 02:49.03 | Towbar | pfft |
| 02:49.09 | Pkekyo| | yes please? |
| 02:49.12 | Towbar | lol |
| 02:49.13 | Towbar | :D |
| 02:49.27 | Towbar | örat too ;) |
| 02:49.33 | Towbar | multi lingual ftw |
| 02:49.40 | Towbar | alt 0246 ftw |
| 02:50.07 | Pkekyo| | what's with swedes teaching english/irish/scottish peeps how to curse in swedish? >.< |
| 02:50.17 | Towbar | not cursing per say |
| 02:50.26 | Towbar | it means i want to cum in your eye |
| 02:50.29 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
| 02:50.33 | Towbar | or ear |
| 02:50.33 | Pkekyo| | well... |
| 02:50.39 | Towbar | depending |
| 02:50.40 | Pkekyo| | close enough |
| 02:50.47 | Towbar | so i am told |
| 02:50.50 | Towbar | :/ |
| 02:50.58 | Towbar | by a girl no less... |
| 02:51.05 | Pkekyo| | could've said 'being an absolute arsehat', but I thought I ought to try how it is to be a bit moderate |
| 02:51.41 | Pkekyo| | you got told by a girl that she wants to cum in your eye and ear? I call trap! GIRL on zeh intarwebs = Guy In Real Lif |
| 02:51.41 | Pkekyo| | e |
| 02:51.49 | Towbar | how do you say "you are an absolute arsehole"? |
| 02:52.00 | Pkekyo| | in swedish? |
| 02:52.03 | Towbar | aye |
| 02:52.14 | Xyphor | Ow come on, this is no SWE lessons for swearing :p |
| 02:52.21 | Towbar | good point |
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| 02:52.38 | Pkekyo| | not quite sure, the brits got more education than me from the swedes :p |
| 02:52.38 | Pkekyo| | I'd guess 'du e et jävla rövhĺl' or something |
| 02:53.06 | Towbar | wtb swe keyboard :/ |
| 02:53.10 | Pkekyo| | I'd rather go with 'slicka din pappa i ollonet' though |
| 02:53.11 | Towbar | lol |
| 02:53.20 | Towbar | which means? |
| 02:53.23 | Pkekyo| | don't you brits have ? on your keyboards? |
| 02:53.34 | Pkekyo| | lick your father in his dickhole...or something... |
| 02:53.43 | Towbar | orly |
| 02:53.48 | Pkekyo| | ya'rly |
| 02:54.01 | Xyphor | I should have made that todo list... |
| 02:54.16 | Towbar | no wai |
| 02:54.19 | Pkekyo| | XyphorOw come on, this is no SWE lessons for swearing <---- stop crying and pay attention, you might learn something for once |
| 02:55.04 | Xyphor | in that case: dickhole -> rectum |
| 02:55.38 | Pkekyo| | nothanks, I'm driving |
| 02:55.43 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: I prefer to learn lua btw |
| 02:55.45 | Towbar | haha |
| 02:55.59 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: you're a bad human being! |
| 02:56.07 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: not true :( |
| 02:56.16 | Pkekyo| | CAPS MAEK IT R TRUETH |
| 02:56.27 | Pkekyo| | !!!!!!!!!!111oneoneseveneleven |
| 02:56.27 | Xyphor | NOT TRUE! |
| 02:56.34 | Xyphor | omgwtfbbqlol? |
| 02:56.57 | Pkekyo| | no u :< |
| 02:57.01 | Xyphor | funny one: http://www.members.lycos.nl/soneji/fun/ROFLMAO.jpg |
| 02:57.18 | Pkekyo| | ahah |
| 02:57.28 | Xyphor | aka ROFL MAO |
| 02:57.44 | Pkekyo| | hms...gwen stefani haven't changed a bit in 15 years |
| 02:57.54 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: not even bigger boobs? |
| 02:58.15 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: not that I've noticed |
| 02:58.19 | Xyphor | damn :( |
| 02:58.22 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 02:58.40 | Pkekyo| | she's supposedly 40 years or something now? O.o |
| 02:58.48 | Xyphor | :o |
| 02:59.12 | Pkekyo| | 38, actually |
| 02:59.16 | Xyphor | 38... damn you're right |
| 02:59.20 | Xyphor | lol |
| 02:59.33 | Towbar | gwen staffanis dad invented branston pickle! |
| 02:59.36 | Pkekyo| | hmm... /shrug.... just had an apiphany: 'why do I care?' :p |
| 02:59.38 | Towbar | thats imba! |
| 03:00.12 | Xyphor | SKAband No Doubt wtf???? |
| 03:00.14 | Xyphor | SKA???? |
| 03:00.28 | Pkekyo| | didn't you know No Doubt was a ska band? |
| 03:00.35 | Pkekyo| | calm down Xyphor |
| 03:00.37 | Xyphor | Like they sound like it... |
| 03:00.43 | Xyphor | ./chill |
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| 03:00.55 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 03:01.09 | Ackis | what's the best way to merge two revisions on the svn? |
| 03:01.37 | Xyphor | Ackis: WHY an ontopic question :p |
| 03:01.43 | Ackis | sorry :( |
| 03:01.46 | Xyphor | lol |
| 03:01.57 | Pkekyo| | hms...english essay's due 4hrs ago...I ought to get started soon |
| 03:01.59 | Xyphor | Sorry, I have no answer to that. |
| 03:02.11 | Xyphor | Anyone know that? |
| 03:02.15 | Pkekyo| | Ackis: the best way is: you don't :p |
| 03:02.35 | Ackis | somehow speedy reverted my changes after he did a commit =/ lol |
| 03:02.50 | Xyphor | ./rename #wowace #barrenschat |
| 03:03.25 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 03:03.35 | starlon | You'll have to get more involved for that |
| 03:03.49 | Xyphor | I'm just a starter starlon |
| 03:03.53 | Xyphor | Sorry for that |
| 03:04.12 | starlon | I should have said "more people" |
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| 03:04.31 | Xyphor | "You'll have to get more people involved for that" ? |
| 03:04.44 | Xyphor | well, you're here now |
| 03:04.53 | starlon | I'm not really here |
| 03:05.06 | Xyphor | "OMG I killed an ally" |
| 03:05.17 | Pkekyo| | ska is grea music...makes me feel like it's summer... even though I'm freezing my arse off |
| 03:05.19 | Xyphor | oops... allies might be here |
| 03:06.07 | Xyphor | Barrens chat lol: WTS Savory Deviate Delightx100 |
| 03:06.09 | Pkekyo| | :> |
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| 03:07.34 | Xyphor | WTB Seven of Blessing :p |
| 03:07.44 | Pkekyo| | WTB Seven of Mordi |
| 03:08.13 | Wobwork | wtb seven of Angelina Jolie? |
| 03:08.29 | Xyphor | omg, there are at least 7 of those? :s |
| 03:08.35 | Wobwork | one for each day of the week |
| 03:08.47 | Wobwork | well no |
| 03:08.47 | Xyphor | now that was imba typing... |
| 03:08.49 | Pkekyo| | if there's seven angelinas, I want one |
| 03:08.50 | Wobwork | but a man can hope? |
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| 03:09.09 | Xyphor | I don't hope on that |
| 03:09.17 | Pkekyo| | he'd be better off fapping madly at unsecure intarwebs porn, I'd imagine |
| 03:09.29 | Wobwork | bah |
| 03:09.35 | Wobwork | I already got all seven of them first |
| 03:09.53 | Pkekyo| | you got fisted seven times, yousay? congratulations! |
| 03:09.59 | Wobwork | There's secured internet porn? |
| 03:10.13 | Wobwork | "Please enter in your password with one hand..." |
| 03:10.27 | kenlyric | takes a DNA sample for authentication |
| 03:10.48 | Wobwork | huh |
| 03:10.50 | Xyphor | WTB Ace of Christina Ricci |
| 03:10.57 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 03:11.00 | Wobwork | so, by the time you authenticate... you don't need the porn anymore? |
| 03:11.43 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 03:11.48 | Pkekyo| | olololol |
| 03:11.49 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 03:11.50 | Pkekyo| | kek |
| 03:11.51 | Pkekyo| | bur |
| 03:12.43 | Xyphor | bur |
| 03:12.58 | Pkekyo| | meh, wasn't that fun tbh |
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| 03:14.50 | kenlyric | Wobwork: catch-22, that. |
| 03:15.25 | Xyphor | Pkekyo|: You broke chat :( |
| 03:16.28 | Pkekyo| | Xyphor: I did? zomg, here, have a band-aid |
| 03:16.49 | Xyphor | [Heavy Runecloth Bandage] |
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| 03:20.19 | Pkekyo| | meh, really should start/finish my essay and go to bed |
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| 03:23.08 | Arrowmaster | hyjal bugged on us |
| 03:23.19 | Arrowmaster | always 5 invading mobs left |
| 03:23.50 | Orionshock | wow they have nerfed 5mans alot |
| 03:25.52 | Arrowmaster | we have 1 min to wait now between wave 7 and 8 |
| 03:25.54 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 03:33.44 | Pkekyo| | well, finished the goddamn essay....g'nite all |
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| 03:42.57 | NightHawkTheSane | I seriously fucking hate pvp servers. |
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| 03:43.11 | Xinhuan | liar |
| 03:43.47 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i suppose, "seriously fucking hate" doesn't nearly cover my utter loathing for themn |
| 03:43.52 | dylanm | NightHawkTheSane: But dude you're not hardcore if you don't get raped by gnome rogues 40 levels higher than you. |
| 03:43.57 | dylanm | Hourly. |
| 03:44.12 | Xinhuan | you need to talk to Ellipsis |
| 03:44.20 | Xinhuan | she shares her hatred of all things pvp |
| 03:44.37 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but she doesn't play on a pvp server. |
| 03:45.00 | Xinhuan | she stll complains all the time about the unfairness of pvp anyway |
| 03:45.09 | Xinhuan | and how its forced on her |
| 03:45.20 | NightHawkTheSane | and, to be sure, i don't hate all things pvp, and i don't care about how unfair it is (and it is) |
| 03:45.30 | Xinhuan | like pvp trinkets providing an edge in pve ;p |
| 03:45.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i just fucking hate the fucking degenerate low lifes who think it's even remotely amusing and mature to gank people who just want to fucking quest in goddamn peace. |
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| 03:46.00 | Xinhuan | transfer kgo |
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| 03:46.06 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 03:46.09 | CIA-8 | 03next96 * r56490 10LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0/LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0.lua: |
| 03:46.09 | CIA-8 | LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0: |
| 03:46.09 | CIA-8 | - Add locale koKR |
| 03:46.15 | Xinhuan | or bring your 70 to gank them back :) |
| 03:46.24 | Xinhuan | i once did that for 2 hours |
| 03:46.39 | NightHawkTheSane | my 70 is a resto shaman. i'm pretty sure a 55 rogue could kill me, ignoring the fact that i just -suck- at pvp. |
| 03:46.46 | Xinhuan | even tracked him across continents |
| 03:46.49 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 03:46.59 | NightHawkTheSane | And that's not even the point, I dont -want- to do that, I -want- to grind in peace and be left the fuck alone |
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| 03:47.43 | NightHawkTheSane | tbh, if i had anywhere to transfer to, i'd consider it. |
| 03:47.58 | Xinhuan | there are 130 servers :) |
| 03:48.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Only reason i really stay there is because that's where my friends are. |
| 03:48.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, but I enjoy playing with friends. *shrug* |
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| 03:48.23 | Xinhuan | get them to help you? |
| 03:49.21 | Kody- | Ok let's see how stable this internet is going to be! |
| 03:51.59 | kenlyric | that's pretty fail. I can't play wow and watch quicktime videos at the same time. |
| 03:52.14 | Kody- | Ouch |
| 03:52.15 | kenlyric | time 4 upgrade? |
| 03:52.57 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 03:54.29 | kenlyric | cause I wanna do both? |
| 03:55.03 | Xinhuan | i mean why can't your system do both |
| 03:55.26 | kenlyric | both progs get kinda choppy when they can only have <50% of the cpu |
| 03:55.32 | kenlyric | they both try to take it all if they can. |
| 03:55.58 | Xinhuan | can anything else play quicktime videos? |
| 03:55.59 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r56491 10VisualThemes/Locales/koKR.lua: VisualThemes: - Updated locale koKR |
| 03:56.05 | Xinhuan | apart from quickttime players |
| 03:56.25 | kenlyric | wow hovers around 6fps, a drop ffrom around 26. |
| 03:56.30 | kenlyric | not really |
| 03:56.36 | kenlyric | itunes, but it just uses quicktime |
| 03:56.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: mplayer, vlc? |
| 03:57.14 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, try what NightHawkTheSane suggested ;p |
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| 03:57.25 | kenlyric | vlc does them? |
| 03:57.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't know |
| 03:57.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i usually use quicktime player for them ;) |
| 03:58.14 | kenlyric | i'm thinking this is just another sign that it's time for an upgrade. |
| 03:58.45 | NightHawkTheSane | what comp do you have? |
| 03:58.59 | kenlyric | athlon64 something. |
| 03:59.05 | kenlyric | it was fairly middle of the ground in 2004. |
| 03:59.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, yeah, probably then |
| 03:59.24 | kenlyric | 2 processors might alleviate the issue, I think. |
| 03:59.32 | kenlyric | or two cores |
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| 04:00.45 | Xinhuan | what are you considering to get? |
| 04:02.17 | kenlyric | i've got a preliminary list around here somewhere. |
| 04:02.31 | kenlyric | basically, middle of the road again. |
| 04:02.38 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 04:05.08 | NightHawkTheSane | "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." |
| 04:05.09 | kenlyric | http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=6490191 |
| 04:07.33 | kenlyric | are you watching that now or did that just pop out of your head? |
| 04:07.51 | NightHawkTheSane | watching it now |
| 04:08.05 | NightHawkTheSane | although, as often as i've seen this episode, the latter is equally probable |
| 04:08.33 | kenlyric | that episode makes me hate all other TV by comparison. |
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| 04:08.44 | kenlyric | if my memory isn't rusty and that's Believers |
| 04:08.47 | NightHawkTheSane | s/episode/series/ |
| 04:08.55 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit purl, you're too smart. :P |
| 04:09.00 | NightHawkTheSane | and yes, it is Believers. |
| 04:09.20 | NightHawkTheSane | But yeah, this series makes everything else pale, really. |
| 04:12.34 | kenlyric | did you watch that DVD movie? |
| 04:12.43 | Silowyi | rofl |
| 04:12.51 | Silowyi | http://www.accasia.net/vashj_dead.jpg |
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| 04:13.13 | OwnzuG|AFK | Can some1 help me with DR. DMG? |
| 04:13.26 | OwnzuG| | Please? |
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| 04:14.01 | OwnzuG| | kan any1 help me with DR/DMG? |
| 04:16.49 | OwnzuG| | Anyone? |
| 04:18.48 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 04:18.49 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 04:18.56 | dylanm | State your problem. I don't think the author's here but it's better than asking an overly general question. |
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| 04:24.04 | Arrowmaster | the author is actually in here |
| 04:24.12 | Arrowmaster | but probably afk |
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| 04:37.15 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 04:38.21 | Xinhuan | so someone linked |
| 04:38.24 | Xinhuan | http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/oxycontin77/2girls1cup.jpg |
| 04:38.32 | Xinhuan | and everyones response was |
| 04:38.43 | Xinhuan | WHOA PRO THATS SICK, ahahha |
| 04:38.57 | Xinhuan | (its safe for work) |
| 04:41.33 | Kameril | is #NODOC_DEFAULT broken in the autodoc? even though I add it at the top of my file everything gets autodoced |
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| 04:48.08 | CIA-8 | 03ominous * r56492 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
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| 04:56.22 | dylanm_ | Arrowmaster: Oh, so he is. |
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| 05:01.28 | bigzero | bah, the last racing quest for netherwing is so hard |
| 05:01.35 | bigzero | i fail at flying |
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| 05:23.02 | CIA-8 | 03next96 * r56493 10Numen/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 05:23.02 | CIA-8 | Numen: |
| 05:23.03 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | "Nothing the government does surprises me." "That's a very russian attitude. I commend you." |
| 05:30.30 | RaydenUni | shade is hard |
| 05:30.53 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. |
| 05:31.00 | NightHawkTheSane | aran? eaaasy |
| 05:31.02 | Wobwork | of Aran? |
| 05:31.05 | Wobwork | easy |
| 05:31.17 | Wobwork | just need two interrupts |
| 05:31.25 | Wobwork | healers can heal through arcane |
| 05:31.28 | RaydenUni | we have 2 rogues |
| 05:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the key to aran is a) interrupt, and b) don't fucking move during flame wreath |
| 05:31.40 | RaydenUni | we've just had bad luck with people dying at the beginning |
| 05:31.43 | RaydenUni | this last time someone moved |
| 05:31.52 | NightHawkTheSane | see, there you go :P |
| 05:32.32 | Diao | people dying in the beginning? |
| 05:32.33 | Diao | to what |
| 05:32.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: stupidity, i bet |
| 05:32.50 | Wobwork | send them to http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ |
| 05:34.02 | Wobwork | as long as the rogues/warriors interrupt one school each (of fire and frost), and everyone sticks to the right location, it's usually straightforward |
| 05:34.37 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56494 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Add a correction for a really old flaw in the defaults, which was causing errors on db updates. |
| 05:35.40 | Kemayo | ...hi? |
| 05:36.25 | Xinhuan | i found out how not to click 20 checkboxes per vent account to be created |
| 05:36.36 | Xinhuan | there is profile loading/saving at the top lol |
| 05:43.17 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56495 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Account for mob.locations being nil when populating cartographer. |
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| 05:55.40 | Phorbie | would an OS X-like dock for Action buttons be possible? |
| 05:55.55 | kaiden | no |
| 05:56.11 | Phorbie | hmm |
| 05:57.24 | Phorbie | even like a zoom on mouseover? |
| 05:58.11 | kaiden | i'm sure you could write an addon to setscale on flexbar buttons since it's the only one that support a per button scale modifier that i know of |
| 05:58.18 | kaiden | but it wouldn't work in combat i dont think |
| 05:58.39 | Phorbie | okay |
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| 06:09.51 | Xinhuan | hmm i can't get razerconfig to recognize mouse 5/7 |
| 06:09.56 | Xinhuan | whys that |
| 06:10.35 | Lukian | 6/7 ? |
| 06:10.50 | NightHawkTheSane | i was about to say "because you touch yourself at night", but i guess you can't now. haHAH |
| 06:10.51 | Xinhuan | mouse button 6 and 7 |
| 06:11.46 | NightHawkTheSane | er, seriously though, no idea. :\ |
| 06:13.24 | Fisker- | i touch Xinhuan at night |
| 06:14.28 | NightHawkTheSane | well, someone has to |
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| 06:20.54 | CIA-8 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r56496 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Add container parameter to :Open, will fill the given AceGUI container widget with the config instead of creating a frame |
| 06:27.12 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r56497 10LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0/LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0.lua: LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0: frFR update |
| 06:28.03 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r736 10/trunk/tekKompare/tekKompare.lua: tekKompare - Added CowTip condom, we don't want to catch anything... and everyone knows she's a dirty whore |
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| 06:30.59 | Xinhuan | is there anyway i can bind mouse1 to the default action bar button 2? ;p |
| 06:31.30 | Tekkub | I don't think you can bind mouse 1 and 2 |
| 06:31.50 | Diao | i would assume no |
| 06:31.55 | Diao | but you could try |
| 06:31.55 | Xinhuan | really? :( |
| 06:32.11 | Xinhuan | is there a /script i can use |
| 06:32.12 | Tekkub | you need them for 3D-interaction |
| 06:32.14 | Diao | bind BUTTON1 ACTIONBUTTON2 |
| 06:32.19 | Diao | in your bindings-cache.wtf? |
| 06:32.24 | Diao | don't know if that would actually work though |
| 06:36.51 | Xinhuan | i'll try it |
| 06:37.15 | CIA-8 | 03nargiddley * r56498 10/branches/ConfigWrangler/ (. Ace3/ Ace3/ConfigWrangler.lua Ace3/ConfigWrangler.toc): |
| 06:37.15 | CIA-8 | ConfigWrangler: Initial Commit |
| 06:37.15 | CIA-8 | Shows all Configs Registered with AceConfigRegistry-3.0 in one window |
| 06:38.29 | Xinhuan | tekkub is right |
| 06:38.40 | Xinhuan | mouse1 and 2 aren't bindable by itself |
| 06:38.41 | Tekkub | told you |
| 06:38.46 | Tekkub | don't question me again |
| 06:39.00 | Xinhuan | zz |
| 06:39.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub is always right, apparently |
| 06:39.09 | RaydenUni | Tekkub is the moon made of cheese? |
| 06:39.16 | Xinhuan | well i'm trying to rebind everything to a single mouse |
| 06:39.21 | Xinhuan | with 5 buttons |
| 06:39.32 | Tekkub | use clique :P |
| 06:39.43 | Tekkub | I don't even use all 5 buttons |
| 06:39.46 | Xinhuan | i've overloaded my left and right clicks on unitframes now |
| 06:39.54 | Diao | lol |
| 06:39.56 | Diao | what mouse do you use |
| 06:40.02 | Xinhuan | razer |
| 06:40.10 | Tekkub | a MS laser |
| 06:40.13 | Xinhuan | see, i broke my left arm |
| 06:40.17 | Xinhuan | so |
| 06:40.19 | Tekkub | 6000 |
| 06:40.28 | Xinhuan | i'm trying out how well mouse3 = tab target work |
| 06:40.43 | Keias | I told you earlier. Just roll a warlock. Faceroll -> receive loot |
| 06:40.54 | Keias | It'll save you time in the long run! |
| 06:41.02 | Tekkub | so use your left stump for combat movement if you need, and click actionbar buttons |
| 06:41.02 | Diao | oh |
| 06:41.04 | Diao | ouch |
| 06:41.08 | Xinhuan | mouse4 iceblock, mouse5 blink, mouse1friendly AI, mouse1hostile frostbolt |
| 06:41.09 | Diao | how'd that happen |
| 06:41.13 | Diao | and are you typing with 1 hand now o_O |
| 06:41.23 | Xinhuan | mouse2friendly decurse, mouse2hostile sheep |
| 06:41.26 | NightHawkTheSane | he's just that good |
| 06:41.26 | Tekkub | or are you trying to PvP one-handed? |
| 06:41.29 | Diao | lol |
| 06:41.30 | Xinhuan | yes typing with 1 hand |
| 06:41.32 | Tekkub | PvP is doomed from the start |
| 06:41.33 | Diao | 1 handed arena |
| 06:41.34 | Diao | pro |
| 06:41.36 | Diao | ;) |
| 06:41.37 | Xinhuan | yes yes tekkub i am |
| 06:41.49 | Diao | get like |
| 06:41.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: for all this trouble, i say just become a clicker :P |
| 06:41.49 | Tekkub | okey, you need to make this clear from the start |
| 06:41.51 | Xinhuan | but hte only way i can move is by holding down both mouse buttons |
| 06:41.55 | Tekkub | I don't help PvPers :P |
| 06:41.57 | Diao | a microsoft sidewinder |
| 06:42.02 | Diao | you get like 8 buttons to bind |
| 06:42.04 | Diao | all programmable :D |
| 06:42.10 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub's my new hero for saying that |
| 06:42.26 | Xinhuan | windows razer driver isn't really recognizing mouse6/7 |
| 06:42.33 | Xinhuan | and neither does wow |
| 06:42.35 | Tekkub | I'll break your other arm for you so that you can't play at all if you like |
| 06:42.50 | Xinhuan | well see i want a setup to use in pve too |
| 06:42.58 | Diao | the sidewinder works |
| 06:43.04 | Diao | it's like having a g15 keyboard for your mouse |
| 06:43.04 | Diao | lol |
| 06:43.06 | Xinhuan | i'll prob kill myself and the raid clicking on petbuttons at teron gorefiend |
| 06:43.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh, also, for whoever was saying that questing 58-60 in azeroth wasn't worth it, it so is. |
| 06:43.21 | Tekkub | I prefer n52 and a 5-assed mouse |
| 06:43.32 | Diao | i would've had a n52 |
| 06:43.36 | Diao | if amazon didn't cancel my order |
| 06:43.37 | Tekkub | yea Night, I went to 60 in assroth |
| 06:43.46 | Diao | they priced it at $3.71 accidentally |
| 06:43.53 | Tekkub | and I still have almost a whole zone of quests left over |
| 06:43.55 | Diao | :( |
| 06:44.06 | Tekkub | "back in the day" I ran out of quests halfway thru 58 |
| 06:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: yeah, i'm about 32% from 59now, still have a handful of silithus quests, most of winterspring and a bunch of epl if i want |
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| 06:44.47 | Tekkub | I had half of WS, 1/3 of WPL and prolly half of EPL left |
| 06:45.11 | Diao | o_O |
| 06:45.25 | Diao | i usually hit 60 without doing any quests in outland or epl/wpl/silithus/winterspring |
| 06:45.32 | Diao | i must be doing something wrong |
| 06:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | do you instance a lot? |
| 06:46.00 | Nargiddley | I went to outland at 58, was 60 about 1/3 of the way through the hellfire quests |
| 06:46.11 | Diao | yea |
| 06:46.12 | Diao | i do |
| 06:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: yeah, see, i don't |
| 06:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | unles it's with friends/guild, i do an instance at most once/twice to get the quests done |
| 06:46.43 | Tekkub | yea this is instanceless leveling here |
| 06:46.43 | Xinhuan | WS sucks |
| 06:46.48 | Xinhuan | a bitch to fly to |
| 06:46.53 | Tekkub | I love WS |
| 06:47.04 | Tekkub | Sillythis, now that's a shit zone |
| 06:47.07 | Keias | I loved WS too |
| 06:47.12 | Keias | lol |
| 06:47.17 | Keias | I've always called it syphilis :( |
| 06:47.21 | Tekkub | WS is one of my favorite zones |
| 06:47.31 | Tekkub | I want Northrend to be all snow :) |
| 06:47.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i like ws. |
| 06:48.11 | NightHawkTheSane | silithus isn't too bad, a few of the lower level quests are nicely grouped and easy to do |
| 06:48.18 | Keias | Yeah, I love snowy areas |
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| 06:50.52 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r56499 10Babble-2.2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:50.52 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:50.52 | CIA-8 | Babble-Herbs-2.2: esES update (forum post from kFran) |
| 06:50.52 | CIA-8 | Babble-Inventory-2.2: deDE and esES update (forum post from kFran) |
| 06:50.52 | CIA-8 | Babble-Spell-2.2: deDE update |
| 06:50.52 | CIA-8 | Babble-Zone-2.2: deDE update |
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| 07:03.45 | Ackis | ok, i've been smacking my head into a wall here it seems... simpliest way is for me to just revert changes done for my add-on, but I can't seem to find a simple "revert to revision x" button that actually reverts for me |
| 07:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | use merge |
| 07:04.52 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r56500 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: |
| 07:04.52 | CIA-8 | Threat-1.0: |
| 07:04.52 | CIA-8 | - deDE Karazhan Nightbane update |
| 07:05.14 | NightHawkTheSane | merge from revision x to x-n, on to your working copy, then commit the changes |
| 07:06.05 | NightHawkTheSane | also, this is your friend, bookmark it. :P http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 07:06.26 | Ackis | first time i've seen that linked :P but bookmarked now lol |
| 07:06.28 | CIA-8 | 03quagmire * r56501 10nQuestLog/ (23 files in 8 dirs): |
| 07:06.28 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 07:06.28 | CIA-8 | - Coloring: Added options to allow defining custom coloring for "Color by level" and "Color by progress" |
| 07:06.28 | CIA-8 | - SmartVisibility: Added option to show objectives for current zone by default, rather than always showing them if that option is enabled. |
| 07:06.28 | CIA-8 | - Changed all other modules to look to the Coloring module settings for coloring quest objectives and other stuff. |
| 07:06.31 | CIA-8 | - Zone names and their coordinates are now shown in that zone's faction color (green, yellow, or red). |
| 07:07.50 | Tekkub | eew fuck SVN's merging |
| 07:07.52 | Tekkub | lern2git |
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| 07:08.48 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, merging is easy once you get the hang of it |
| 07:09.16 | Tekkub | you can say that, but once you use git's merge SVN's simply cannot compare |
| 07:09.30 | kaiden | ooooh nice quagmire :) |
| 07:09.34 | NightHawkTheSane | well, as i've not used git, i'm certainly not qualified to say. :P |
| 07:09.53 | NightHawkTheSane | but regardless, i don't think svn's merge is bad at all |
| 07:13.00 | Diao | ok wtf |
| 07:13.02 | Diao | i finally got a ss of it |
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| 07:13.58 | Diao | http://www.clockwork-guild.net/bunnyguild.jpg |
| 07:14.00 | Diao | how did they do that?! |
| 07:14.18 | Xinhuan | ages ago |
| 07:14.18 | Diao | this is the armory link |
| 07:14.18 | Diao | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmourne&n=Aliveish |
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| 07:16.56 | Diao | ? |
| 07:17.22 | Xinhuan | that guild existed over a year ago |
| 07:17.32 | Xinhuan | back when x-server bg was inroduced |
| 07:17.37 | Xinhuan | its pretty famous |
| 07:18.35 | Diao | oh |
| 07:18.39 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:18.48 | Diao | i was talking about it the other day but someone didn't believe it |
| 07:19.03 | Diao | so i was looking for them again for a ss |
| 07:20.39 | NightHawkTheSane | it was me, and now i believe you. |
| 07:21.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hax, i say |
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| 07:51.30 | Kemayo | SVN merge isn't bad -- it's just that it doesn't feel natural. |
| 07:52.26 | Kemayo | If they'd called it something like "svn repeat" it'd feel more intuitive. |
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| 08:01.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i'll grant that merge probably isn't the most accurate name given what it does |
| 08:03.31 | CIA-8 | 03next96 * r56502 10nQuestLog/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:03.31 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 08:03.31 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:03.48 | Kemayo | They're making it better in 1.5, I hear. |
| 08:05.05 | NightHawkTheSane | oh? I honestly don't keep up with svn development :\ |
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| 08:08.20 | Kemayo | As I understand it, they're adding metadata to remove the requirement to look through the logs to work out the last time you merged from one branch to another. |
| 08:08.50 | Kemayo | Ah, here we go: "Subversion automatically keeps track of which changes you.ve merged already, and which still need merging. We even allow cherry-picking of changes. We.ve also got nice interactive conflict resolution now, so you can plug in your favorite Mercurial |
| 08:08.54 | Kemayo | merging tool and away you go." |
| 08:09.45 | Kemayo | While looking for that I also discovered that 1.5 will also let you check out a single file instead of a whole directory. http://blogs.gnome.org/ovitters/2007/05/21/checking-out-a-single-file-with-svn-15-dev/ |
| 08:11.14 | NightHawkTheSane | neat |
| 08:12.54 | Kemayo | A good night to you. |
| 08:15.01 | MentalPower | Kemayo: does that mean that we will be able to do externals on single files too? |
| 08:15.25 | Kemayo | MentalPower: I do not know, I'm afraid -- that brief mention of it was the first I'd heard of it. |
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| 08:34.47 | Tekkub | is it... abnormal for your fuckbud to mail you an xmas card? |
| 08:36.14 | Ellipsis | depends how long it's been going on, imo |
| 08:37.09 | Ellipsis | what's abnormal is getting christmas cards 3 weeks early |
| 08:37.45 | Tekkub | he's not sent it yet |
| 08:37.58 | Tekkub | he just asked for my address, which he KNOWS cause he's been here |
| 08:38.02 | Tekkub | ... and my name :) |
| 08:38.15 | Lukian | what is your name? XD |
| 08:39.03 | ramoz | whats a fuckbud? |
| 08:39.04 | MoonWolf | Tekkub, you get christmas cards for people you hardly ever know |
| 08:39.17 | MoonWolf | i'm sure you fuckbuddy sending you one is nothing to be suprised off |
| 08:39.28 | MoonWolf | ramoz, its someone you fuck without the whole relationship part. |
| 08:39.33 | ramoz | aha |
| 08:39.37 | ramoz | is Tekkub a girl? |
| 08:39.41 | ramoz | Tekkub: are you a girl? |
| 08:39.43 | MoonWolf | no |
| 08:40.01 | vhaarr^ | he plays for the other team |
| 08:40.11 | ramoz | oh i see |
| 08:41.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 08:42.03 | Orionshock | had a guild say over vent "So i unload oRA2 and my ping drops by 2/3rds of what it was", i told him "it has nothing to do with that", |
| 08:42.31 | Orionshock | .... i tell him i've been messing with mods for far too long to believe that... |
| 08:42.53 | Orionshock | He responds "ive been designing computers for 12 years... i believe it " |
| 08:43.15 | evl | Maybe he belives that christians get better FPS too |
| 08:43.18 | evl | I do that, HALLELUJA |
| 08:43.30 | Neebler | rofl |
| 08:44.20 | MoonWolf | evl, hows your result been ? |
| 08:44.30 | MoonWolf | and how much of an fps gain are we talkin about |
| 08:44.39 | MoonWolf | (anything for performance) |
| 08:44.53 | Diao | lmao |
| 08:44.56 | evl | About a 10% killability increase (I'm a rogue, or as I like to call it, A HOLY WARRIOR OF LORD) |
| 08:44.58 | MoonWolf | maybe we could express religious devotion in % fps gained |
| 08:45.14 | evl | I dunno, the Islam wins hands down |
| 08:45.27 | Tekkub | uh, that's paladins |
| 08:45.32 | evl | But I can live with -5% FPS as long as I don't have to wear that stupid hat |
| 08:45.33 | Codayus | Designing...computers? Gm.. |
| 08:45.36 | Codayus | Hm, even. |
| 08:45.40 | Tekkub | rogues get their killability from SATAN |
| 08:45.59 | Codayus | I read thas a "hillbillity" at first. |
| 08:46.09 | evl | Codayus: Yeah you know, you draw them on a napkin with stuff like [5"12 floppy goes here] |
| 08:46.16 | Ellipsis | hm, do I gain or lose framerate as a lock though? I mean, we're supposed to be evil and demonic...doesn't christianity kinda take away from that? |
| 08:47.22 | MoonWolf | you ENSLAVE the demos |
| 08:47.22 | Codayus | Wow, I can't type any nore. |
| 08:47.33 | Codayus | .... /wrists |
| 08:47.36 | MoonWolf | its like, being gods special dog napper |
| 08:47.48 | Ellipsis | oh, cool, that's ok then |
| 08:53.53 | Arcaia | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oeMsbZGctdr0zx0Go ------ http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0LZGctdr0zx0GoZxMe0MhRo ------OR--- http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oeMofZZVMe0MuRoxc |
| 08:54.00 | Arcaia | PVP 2s/3s Arena |
| 08:54.06 | Arcaia | with Healer |
| 08:54.23 | Arcaia | Go go! |
| 08:59.32 | thul | 28/0/33 or 4/33/24 |
| 08:59.38 | thul | have you read elitistjerks? : |
| 09:00.06 | Arcaia | aye... but beyond that I'z been roguecrafter since beta. |
| 09:00.18 | Arcaia | 28/0/33 is basically what I am now |
| 09:00.21 | Arcaia | but 4/33/24 |
| 09:00.23 | Arcaia | looks nice |
| 09:00.28 | Arcaia | prep adren is amazing |
| 09:00.42 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:00.44 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (25/3/33). 10064 HP; 1433 AP; 285.700 Melee DPS; 22.21% melee crit; 88 melee hit; 22.01% dodge; 175 resilience;[[ TBR: 1953 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269oow ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rhxsn ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:01:05 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:01.00 | Arcaia | i have 3 out of seal fate -> in imp gouge |
| 09:01.37 | evl | prep ar is a no brainer |
| 09:01.41 | evl | pop ar, bf, evasion |
| 09:01.43 | evl | repeat |
| 09:01.46 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 09:01.49 | evl | and something there will die |
| 09:01.56 | Arcaia | mainly I do 2s |
| 09:02.06 | evl | !c Kazzak Blend |
| 09:02.10 | Arcaia | so the 28/0/33 with cheat death/quick recovery |
| 09:02.12 | Arcaia | is amazing |
| 09:02.13 | evl | !c eu Kazzak Blend |
| 09:02.15 | ThraeBot | evl: Blend, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (0/33/28). 10084 HP; 4248 Armour; 1888 AP; 405.700 Melee DPS; 23.29% melee crit; 342 melee hit; 30.91% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 1810 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fjr5h ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ktten ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:02:36 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:02.36 | evl | I haven't got any maces though :( |
| 09:02.54 | Arcaia | im jealous of your AP >.> raid buffed? |
| 09:03.03 | Arcaia | has to be ;P |
| 09:03.33 | Neebler | !c black dragonflight Neebler |
| 09:03.49 | Neebler | !c BlackDragonflight Neebler |
| 09:04.17 | Neebler | bah whatever |
| 09:04.43 | Arcaia | !c us Black Dragonflight Neebler |
| 09:04.46 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Neebler, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (0/31/30). 10124 HP; +10 Energy; 3972 Armour; 1768 AP; 390.700 Melee DPS; 24.13% melee crit; 81 melee hit; 28.16% dodge; 368 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1699 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvxtuq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mptzl ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:05:07 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:05.17 | Arcaia | wait! |
| 09:05.23 | Neebler | pvp gearrrs |
| 09:05.32 | Arcaia | !vs us Black Dragonflight Neebler us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:05.32 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Neebler vs Arcaia! Two 70 rogues square off!; 0/31/30 vs 25/3/33; Arcaia wins by 254 TBRs! |
| 09:05.40 | Neebler | lies |
| 09:05.42 | evl | Arcaia: yeah, from kara I think |
| 09:05.43 | Arcaia | haha for undergeared ness! |
| 09:05.51 | FinalX | o.O |
| 09:06.05 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z (n=Mech0z@client.auwlan.au.dk) |
| 09:06.07 | FinalX | !vs eu Steamwheedle Cartel Yemenya eu Steamwheedle Cartel Raquel |
| 09:06.11 | Arcaia | im lower on everything |
| 09:06.15 | Arcaia | every single stat almost.. |
| 09:06.26 | FinalX | i broke it :( |
| 09:06.30 | Arcaia | but I win. |
| 09:07.10 | ThraeBot | FinalX: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 09:07.15 | FinalX | ... |
| 09:07.19 | Jaxon | !c us Deathwing Jaxon |
| 09:07.20 | FinalX | nab |
| 09:07.21 | ThraeBot | Jaxon: Jaxon, Level 70 Troll Hunter (41/20/0). 8886 HP; 6868 Mana; 96 mana regen; 14 mp5; 6276 Armour; 1834 AP; 278.400 Melee DPS; 22.54% melee crit; 152 melee hit; 1773 RAP; 379.00 Ranged DPS; 29.81% ranged crit; 152 ranged hit; 18.35% dodge; 77 resilience;[[ TBR: 1231 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28fzvb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3arn4z ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:07:43 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:07.26 | Jaxon | THATS ME |
| 09:07.27 | Jaxon | Good night. |
| 09:07.38 | FinalX | !vs eu Steamwheedle Cartel Yemenya us Deathwing Jaxon |
| 09:07.38 | ThraeBot | FinalX: Yemenya vs Jaxon! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 14/0/47 vs 41/20/0; Yemenya wins by 161 TBRs! |
| 09:07.39 | Arcaia | I WIN!!!! YAY |
| 09:07.44 | FinalX | I win! |
| 09:07.44 | FinalX | :P |
| 09:08.03 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak ammo |
| 09:08.06 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Ammo, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (41/3/17). 10220 HP; 10150 Mana; 107 mana regen; 138 spell crit; 161 spell hit; 1129 +spell dmg; 53 shadow dmg (1182); 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 656 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrdeep ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mn4jo ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:08:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:08.14 | Arcaia | 656 |
| 09:08.14 | evl | !vs eu Kazzak Blend us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:08.15 | Arcaia | rofl |
| 09:08.22 | FinalX | !c eu Steamwheedle Cartel Yemenya |
| 09:08.28 | [Ammo] | tbr is soo melee heavy |
| 09:08.33 | Arcaia | !vs us Shattered Hand Frugaly eu kazzak ammo |
| 09:08.38 | FinalX | [Ammo]: You lack 10 TBR to make 666 :P |
| 09:08.41 | evl | Idd, I beat Celalia in my PVP gear with over a 1000 :P |
| 09:09.01 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nevcairiel |
| 09:09.11 | Arcaia | !vs us Shattered Hand Frugaly eu kazzak ammo |
| 09:09.15 | ThraeBot | evl: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 09:09.15 | Arcaia | Do it! |
| 09:09.16 | ThraeBot | FinalX: Yemenya, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 8021 HP; 8085 Mana; 166 mana regen; 57 mp5; 107 spell crit; 70 spell hit; 801 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (980); 281 shadow dmg (1082); 4.82% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1424 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw9k8r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38o5g9 ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:06:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:09.20 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Frugaly vs Ammo! Ammo has +31 lvls on Frugaly (39 vs 70); A L39 hunter and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/0/30 vs 41/3/17; Ammo wins by 520 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 09:09.24 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 8444 HP; 9920 Mana; 431 mana regen; 241 mp5; 5.28% melee crit; 629 +spell dmg; 1854 +heal; 6.47% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1091 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqhy7q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32vjf8 ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:09:45 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:09.24 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: I just said that 7s ago. |
| 09:09.26 | nevcairiel | i wonder how i get that much TBR from my healing gear |
| 09:09.34 | Arcaia | we killing the bott |
| 09:09.41 | thul | hmm |
| 09:09.46 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak bubblehearth |
| 09:09.52 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 09:09.55 | FinalX | I've got a TBR of 1424 o.O |
| 09:10.00 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Frugaly |
| 09:10.04 | [Ammo] | if my pally has more TBR then that bot fails :p |
| 09:10.16 | thul | the thing I dislike about AR, it gets better with prep though, is CC |
| 09:10.25 | thul | it scares me |
| 09:10.40 | Arcaia | --> fear/cyclone? |
| 09:10.47 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Frugaly, Level 39 Draenei Hunter (0/0/30). 2509 HP; 1635 Mana; 71 mana regen; 483 AP; 68.100 Melee DPS; 20.28% melee crit; 425 RAP; 79.90 Ranged DPS; 20.52% ranged crit; 27.52% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 520 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr62j7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33kkqm ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:09:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:10.48 | thul | i pop ar/bf and jump a priest/lock/mage and get feared, trinket, get cycloned/HoJ/repentanced. |
| 09:11.02 | thul | then i ofcourse can pop prep and get another round of AR |
| 09:11.15 | thul | but still :-P |
| 09:11.19 | Diao | !c us blackrock diaox |
| 09:11.21 | ThraeBot | Diao: Diaox, Level 70 Orc Warrior (33/25/3). 12214 HP; 10693 Armour; 1668 AP; 253.500 Melee DPS; 31.95% melee crit; 64 melee hit; 6.12% dodge; 5.00% block; 341 resilience;[[ TBR: 2067 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cmtba ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mo3yt ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:11:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:11.30 | thul | passive things like quick recovery and fleet footed is nicer that way |
| 09:11.35 | Diao | wow 2067 |
| 09:11.41 | Diao | it went up like 1k from the last time i checked |
| 09:11.41 | Diao | lol |
| 09:11.47 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak bubblehearth |
| 09:11.58 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 09:13.22 | thul | it doesen't like EU |
| 09:13.28 | [Ammo] | it responded in query |
| 09:13.36 | [Ammo] | [[ TBR: 848 ][ |
| 09:13.43 | thul | hmm |
| 09:13.46 | nevcairiel | probably a spam protection in channel |
| 09:13.47 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=Guillaum@195.167.228.58) |
| 09:13.48 | thul | !c eu balnazzar thyve |
| 09:13.48 | [Ammo] | my crummy pally has more tbr than my warlock |
| 09:13.51 | ThraeBot | thul: Thyve, Level 70 Human Rogue (11/26/24). 9634 HP; 1354 AP; 333.700 Melee DPS; 21.52% melee crit; 187 melee hit; 16.56% dodge; 108 resilience;[[ TBR: 1069 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25h6ep ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xqtjo ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:14:12 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:13.57 | Diao | wonder what the highest possible tbr is |
| 09:14.01 | Diao | lol |
| 09:14.05 | [Ammo] | it's melee oriented |
| 09:14.11 | thul | I'm pve, that is my excuse :-P |
| 09:14.25 | [Ammo] | my warlock is pve too, but 656 TBR is bullshit |
| 09:14.28 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny_ (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 09:14.30 | nevcairiel | i am a pve healer and get more tbr then [Ammo] |
| 09:14.31 | Diao | lol |
| 09:14.37 | thul | !c eu ravencrest Krotter |
| 09:14.51 | kaiden | nevcairiel, heya :) how's bt4 coming along? *wink wink* |
| 09:15.04 | starlon | !c us kilrogg starlon |
| 09:15.16 | thul | I'm lvling UD warrior now |
| 09:15.34 | thul | I have to get a 10-matches-pr-week-to-get-AP 5v5 |
| 09:15.39 | starlon | ... |
| 09:15.40 | ThraeBot | starlon: Starlon, Level 70 Human Warrior (17/44/0). 10034 HP; 9851 Armour; 2079 AP; 274.000 Melee DPS; 28.11% melee crit; 206 melee hit; 6.95% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 654 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25qj8p ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y39do ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:16:01 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:16.28 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=Dotted@82.129.20.243) |
| 09:16.31 | thul | my 2v2 is just too... well, 2v2 doesen't give many points |
| 09:16.45 | thul | !c eu ravencrest idavoll |
| 09:16.48 | ThraeBot | thul: Idavoll, Level 20 Undead Warrior (0/11/0). 349 HP; 5.69% melee crit; 1.47% dodge; 4.84% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 194 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hog4m ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dy69l ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:17:09 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:17.17 | thul | Idavoll rocks :P |
| 09:17.26 | starlon | Is TBR a pvp scale? |
| 09:17.35 | thul | i think so |
| 09:17.35 | FinalX | !tbr |
| 09:17.37 | Arcaia | YES |
| 09:17.38 | thul | !tbr |
| 09:17.41 | thul | bah, i was too slow |
| 09:17.43 | Arcaia | but a rogue in far better gear than me |
| 09:17.44 | Arcaia | lost to me |
| 09:17.52 | Arcaia | !vs us Black Dragonflight Neebler us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:17.53 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Neebler vs Arcaia! Two 70 rogues square off!; 0/31/30 vs 25/3/33; Arcaia wins by 254 TBRs! |
| 09:18.03 | starlon | lol |
| 09:18.09 | Arcaia | it predicts my amazing skill |
| 09:18.16 | FinalX | !vs eu Steamwheedle Cartel Yemenya us Black Dragonflight Neebler |
| 09:18.17 | ThraeBot | FinalX: Yemenya vs Neebler! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 14/0/47 vs 0/31/30; Neebler wins by 286 TBRs! |
| 09:18.21 | FinalX | :( |
| 09:18.36 | FinalX | !vs eu Steamwheedle Cartel Yemenya us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:18.37 | ThraeBot | FinalX: Yemenya vs Arcaia! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 14/0/47 vs 25/3/33; Arcaia wins by 553 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 09:18.41 | FinalX | lol @ that |
| 09:18.50 | thul | !vs us shattered hand arcaia eu balnazzar thyve |
| 09:19.30 | Arcaia | dance |
| 09:19.42 | Diao | someone vs me :) |
| 09:19.51 | ThraeBot | thul: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 09:20.09 | thul | :-( |
| 09:20.49 | Arcaia | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Blackrock diaox |
| 09:20.49 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia vs diaox! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? diaox wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 09:20.59 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 09:21.18 | Arcaia | FAIL. |
| 09:21.30 | evl | !vs eu Kazzak Blend us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:21.33 | evl | mine don't work :/ |
| 09:21.37 | Arcaia | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Blackrock diaox |
| 09:21.47 | Arcaia | i want a real matchup! |
| 09:21.50 | Neebler | !vs us Black Dragonflight Neebler us Black Dragonflight Neebler |
| 09:21.54 | Neebler | myself vs myself! |
| 09:22.31 | ThraeBot | evl: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 09:22.32 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia vs Diaox! A L70 rogue and a L70 warrior square off!; 25/3/33 vs 33/25/3; Diaox wins by 114 TBRs! |
| 09:22.34 | ThraeBot | Neebler: Neebler vs Neebler! Two 70 rogues square off!; It's a tie! Wow! (1698.9900818911 vs 1698.9900818911) |
| 09:22.37 | Diao | lol |
| 09:23.02 | Arcaia | I could probably beat you Diao |
| 09:23.06 | Arcaia | with a bit of luck ;P |
| 09:23.07 | kaiden | 179k to 70 on my pally yayu |
| 09:23.12 | Diao | probably |
| 09:23.17 | Diao | warriors aren't very good 1v1 in the actual game :( |
| 09:23.18 | *** join/#wowace elaa (n=ela@p54B4FE75.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:23.32 | thul | pfft |
| 09:23.38 | Arcaia | DoT kite you... forever |
| 09:23.49 | thul | warriors whirlwind, MS, hamstring and overpower me to death |
| 09:24.10 | kaiden | !vs us Khaz Modan Mugwump us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:24.13 | ThraeBot | kaiden: Mugwump vs Arcaia! A L70 warlock and a L70 rogue square off!; 15/46/0 vs 25/3/33; Arcaia wins by 1174 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 09:24.21 | kaiden | dang :P |
| 09:24.29 | kaiden | well he is demo spec .. farmbot haha |
| 09:24.40 | Codayus | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Lightbringer Lazare |
| 09:24.41 | Arcaia | i tell you ThraeBot detects my pvp skills |
| 09:24.43 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Arcaia vs Lazare! A L70 rogue and a L70 priest square off!; 25/3/33 vs 14/0/47; Arcaia wins by 940 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 09:24.45 | kaiden | !vs us Khaz Modan Wildeyes us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:24.46 | Codayus | Heh |
| 09:24.48 | ThraeBot | kaiden: Wildeyes vs Arcaia! A L70 warrior and a L70 rogue square off!; 5/41/15 vs 25/3/33; Arcaia wins by 626 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 09:24.55 | kaiden | ebul! |
| 09:24.59 | Codayus | PVE shadow spec and geared. I squish so badly in arenas... |
| 09:25.00 | kaiden | fine.. |
| 09:25.08 | kaiden | !vs us Khaz Modan Antero us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:25.11 | ThraeBot | kaiden: Antero vs Arcaia! A L70 hunter and a L70 rogue square off!; 41/20/0 vs 25/3/33; Arcaia wins by 123 TBRs! |
| 09:25.16 | kaiden | i doubt.. |
| 09:25.31 | Codayus | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Lightbringer Navras |
| 09:25.34 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Arcaia vs Navras! A L70 rogue and a L70 hunter square off!; 25/3/33 vs 41/20/0; Arcaia wins by 213 TBRs! |
| 09:25.41 | Arcaia | <-- amazing |
| 09:25.44 | kaiden | I think ThraeBot thinks that rogue == default win |
| 09:25.46 | Arcaia | according to thraebot. |
| 09:25.56 | Codayus | Heh, considering the actual arena ranking of that hunter... oO |
| 09:26.02 | Codayus | I detect hax |
| 09:26.24 | Codayus | Hmm, actually, not sure if it is that high a ranking...oh well, too lazy to check. |
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| 09:27.48 | kaiden | my only well geared char == priest so not hard to lose in a duel to that :P |
| 09:28.28 | Arcaia | !vs us Black Dragonflight Neebler us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 09:28.28 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Neebler vs Arcaia! Two 70 rogues square off!; 0/31/30 vs 25/3/33; Arcaia wins by 254 TBRs! |
| 09:28.28 | Arcaia | you have to understand |
| 09:28.28 | Arcaia | that thraebot just loves me |
| 09:28.28 | Arcaia | because neebler is better geared than me |
| 09:28.30 | Arcaia | across the board |
| 09:28.35 | Arcaia | and it shows me winning |
| 09:28.56 | thul | hmm, any updated sites where i can equip a char and see what the stats will be? |
| 09:29.23 | Arcaia | theres addons |
| 09:29.33 | Arcaia | i forget the name of it though |
| 09:29.56 | thul | i mean website :-P |
| 09:30.01 | thul | where i can do that now.. at school |
| 09:30.06 | thul | hmm |
| 09:30.21 | thul | ctprofiles |
| 09:30.21 | Diao | lol |
| 09:30.21 | kaiden | was about to say just go to a profile site |
| 09:30.21 | kaiden | and rip it up |
| 09:30.24 | Codayus | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Lightbringer Aelish |
| 09:30.28 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Arcaia vs Aelish! A L70 rogue and a L70 warlock square off!; 25/3/33 vs 45/5/11; Arcaia wins by 760 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 09:30.33 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 09:30.58 | Arcaia | !c us shattered hand Arcaia |
| 09:30.59 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (25/3/33). 10064 HP; 1433 AP; 285.700 Melee DPS; 22.21% melee crit; 88 melee hit; 22.01% dodge; 175 resilience;[[ TBR: 1953 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269oow ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rhxsn ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:01:05 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:31.35 | Codayus | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Lightbringer Thro |
| 09:31.38 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Arcaia vs Thro! Two 70 rogues square off!; 25/3/33 vs 20/41/0; Arcaia wins by 664 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 09:31.54 | Codayus | I give up |
| 09:32.01 | Diao | lol |
| 09:32.22 | Codayus | Wait! |
| 09:32.27 | Codayus | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Lightbringer Suavis |
| 09:32.27 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Arcaia vs Suavis! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? Arcaia's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 09:32.37 | Codayus | ....fair enough. |
| 09:32.49 | Ellipsis | owned |
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| 09:35.17 | ramoz | !vs eu vek'nilash doompony us vek'nilash erii |
| 09:35.20 | ThraeBot | ramoz: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 09:35.50 | ramoz | !vs eu vek'nilash doompony us vek'nilash Erii |
| 09:35.50 | ThraeBot | ramoz: I just said that 20s ago. |
| 09:35.50 | ramoz | stupid |
| 09:36.04 | kaiden | so sick of the stupid f'in hunter bugs since 2.3 |
| 09:36.18 | ramoz | !vs eu vek'nilash doompony us vek'nilash giskler |
| 09:36.18 | ThraeBot | ramoz: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 09:36.37 | ramoz | ima stab you in the eye ThraeBot |
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| 09:43.37 | Recluse | Anyone happen to know if there is something which does the same as HonorFu, but actually works? *laugh* Not sure when or why it's broken, but HonorFu tracks the first match or two and peters out, never working again (for me) |
| 09:44.50 | Recluse | To add, I'm a non-arena pvp'er, so arena stats are not important at all, just the basic wsb/ab/av/eots win-loss, HK honor, bonus honor, etc |
| 09:45.08 | Arrowmaster | it stops working? |
| 09:45.18 | Arrowmaster | like stops tracking honor completely? |
| 09:46.32 | Recluse | Yep, I reinstalled it from scratch about a week ago (30+ days from last update, though), and it still shows 2 AV wins, 1 loss... And I pvp at least 30 various matches every day |
| 09:46.50 | Diao | did you delete savedvariables |
| 09:46.54 | Diao | it might be set to read only |
| 09:47.17 | Recluse | Hmm, not sure why it'd make a read only sv *laughs* let me check that |
| 09:47.36 | Arrowmaster | somebody was editing it to try and get EotS tracking working |
| 09:47.41 | Arrowmaster | they probably fucked it up |
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| 09:49.04 | Recluse | well, not read only, last modified date, dec 2, 2007 10pm |
| 09:50.01 | Recluse | Hmm, the contents refer to 'glory' - perhaps it might not be the addon but the glorylib? just musing.. |
| 09:50.31 | thul | after some sandboxing at the profile site, I have realized that a 2k + (with selfbuff and BoK) AP, 11k HP, 200 resilience, 25% crit warrior is quite easy to get. |
| 09:51.11 | thul | http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/5448 <- that gearis pretty easy to come by these edays |
| 09:51.22 | Diao | uh |
| 09:51.25 | Diao | 25% crit is really really low |
| 09:51.28 | Arcaia | yea |
| 09:51.34 | Diao | that's horrible :( |
| 09:51.34 | kaiden | you know you are extremely tired when the only reply to after some sandboxing is.. make sure you didn't get sand in your va... you know the rest |
| 09:51.44 | Diao | you should have a minimum of 30% in battle stance |
| 09:52.12 | thul | hmm, that high? :-P |
| 09:52.35 | thul | well, the sandbox is a bit bugged, so can't equip more than one ring and one trinket |
| 09:52.36 | Recluse | hehe, well it wasn't me editing it. I only make local changes - and only to cartographer_notes and locationFu to suit my own tastes |
| 09:52.39 | Orionshock | in assessment , the "Gains" report, does that count mana returns on VT? |
| 09:52.39 | thul | that will make up for it partially |
| 09:52.45 | Diao | that's not high :p |
| 09:52.51 | thul | and enchants |
| 09:52.52 | Diao | it's average for warriors |
| 09:53.19 | thul | heh |
| 09:53.39 | thul | i would love to have the combination of 2500 AP, 22 % crit and 200 resilience on my rogue |
| 09:53.45 | thul | with that easy access gear :-P |
| 09:54.13 | evl | 2500 AP :) |
| 09:54.23 | evl | Don't think you can get that with 100% optimal gear available in game |
| 09:54.38 | thul | i know.. |
| 09:54.39 | Recluse | locationFu doesn't have precision coords (even as an option), so I add that. And I use my cart_notes "add note at player's location" modification to make it worthwhile. Since HonorFu relies on GloryLib, I'll wipe that lib and reinstall them both. Maybe it'll start working this time :p |
| 09:54.53 | thul | i can just imagine the fun with full raidbuffs if you have 2500 unbuffed :-P |
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| 09:55.48 | Arrowmaster | Recluse: glorylib was updated to fix that but the fix seems quite hacky |
| 09:56.16 | Diao | lol |
| 09:56.19 | Diao | 2500 would be ridiculous |
| 09:56.58 | Recluse | *nod* |
| 09:57.31 | thul | i can just imagine the fun |
| 09:58.04 | Diao | fully raid buffed in my (bad) fury gear my warrior gets like 4k ap |
| 09:58.07 | Diao | and 40% crit |
| 09:58.10 | Diao | lol |
| 09:58.12 | Diao | it's pretty fun |
| 09:58.20 | Diao | unfortunately i only have like 130 hit :( |
| 09:58.29 | Recluse | I wiped the SV's for glory and honorfu, reinstalled both from scratch. I'll keep my fingers crossed |
| 09:58.38 | starlon | armory? |
| 09:59.03 | thul | i want to be an arms-warrior:P |
| 09:59.08 | Diao | i'm logged out in my pvp/arms gear |
| 09:59.15 | thul | I can't decide wether to lvl as arms or fury |
| 09:59.17 | Diao | !c us blackrock diaox |
| 09:59.18 | ThraeBot | Diao: Diaox, Level 70 Orc Warrior (33/25/3). 12214 HP; 10693 Armour; 1668 AP; 253.500 Melee DPS; 31.95% melee crit; 64 melee hit; 6.12% dodge; 5.00% block; 341 resilience;[[ TBR: 2067 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cmtba ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mo3yt ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 04:11:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:59.59 | Recluse | Speaking of SVs - I noticed the WAU "Clean up saved variables" menu command a month or two back... Does it nuke everything? |
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| 10:00.18 | Diao | it nukes every savedvar that you don't have the corresponding mod folder for in your addons folder |
| 10:00.21 | Diao | so if you have old addons |
| 10:00.58 | Recluse | does it matter if they are non-WAU/ace handled ones? |
| 10:00.59 | thul | I kind of feel like Heroic Strike with a slow 2h is more fun than fury lvling, but I guess that fury is better for casual tanking during 20-60 and dps.. |
| 10:03.40 | ramoz | MS = win |
| 10:03.43 | ramoz | its the true meaning of a warrior |
| 10:03.54 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:03.55 | ramoz | big hardhitting twohander |
| 10:03.58 | ramoz | mm |
| 10:04.00 | Diao | no it doesn't Recluse |
| 10:04.01 | Diao | and uh |
| 10:04.01 | ramoz | too bad it sucks |
| 10:04.03 | Diao | heroic strike with 2h? |
| 10:04.05 | Recluse | kk |
| 10:04.08 | Diao | that's really bad :( |
| 10:04.14 | ramoz | i said MS |
| 10:04.14 | Diao | slam for 2h rage dump, heroic strike for 1h |
| 10:04.44 | ramoz | white ms white slam white ms white ww so on |
| 10:04.45 | ramoz | mmm |
| 10:05.04 | Diao | HS with a 2h is only used in pvp |
| 10:05.09 | thul | why would one dump rage? :-P |
| 10:05.10 | Diao | when you need to combo MS + HS burst to drop a target |
| 10:05.13 | thul | isn't lots of rage = tehwin |
| 10:05.13 | Diao | um |
| 10:05.16 | Diao | no |
| 10:05.31 | ramoz | standing there with 100 rage isnt win |
| 10:05.31 | Diao | you want to keep your rage as near 0 as possible at all times except when MS/WW are coming off CD |
| 10:05.36 | Diao | then you want to be just above 30/25 |
| 10:05.40 | thul | ok |
| 10:05.59 | Diao | especially if you hvae a shaman |
| 10:06.23 | thul | but lvling as flurry-fury or hs-arms (and then ms-arms)? |
| 10:07.22 | Diao | slam arms |
| 10:07.24 | Diao | :) |
| 10:07.25 | thul | ok. |
| 10:07.27 | starlon | at 40 it's nice to go improved slam |
| 10:07.30 | Diao | actulaly i level as fury all the way |
| 10:07.33 | Diao | and pick up imp slam asap |
| 10:07.37 | Diao | that way i have a choice |
| 10:07.44 | Diao | either slam with 2h or regular dw fury |
| 10:07.49 | Diao | whatever the best weapons i have at the time |
| 10:07.51 | ramoz | Diao: why do you want so little rage? |
| 10:08.05 | Diao | maximize rage efficiency means dumping your rage all the time |
| 10:08.18 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZVV <- my build so far :-P |
| 10:08.25 | Diao | because a single wf proc on a white hit/slam/HS |
| 10:08.31 | Diao | brings me from like 20 to 100 rage |
| 10:08.36 | Diao | when dpsing in raids |
| 10:08.47 | Diao | so i want to keep my rage as low as possible to "waste" as little rage as possible when wf procs |
| 10:08.58 | starlon | wf doesn't proc on slam anymore |
| 10:09.07 | Diao | well i can't really tell |
| 10:09.15 | Diao | because i time my slams to land like .1 sec after the white |
| 10:09.28 | Diao | so if wf procs i can't tell whether it's the white or the slam that procced it ;p |
| 10:09.48 | starlon | wf only procs on white now |
| 10:09.52 | starlon | been that way for a while |
| 10:10.20 | starlon | some say that destroyed 2h pve |
| 10:10.38 | starlon | the spreadsheets say it's still viable :\ so go figure |
| 10:10.48 | thul | I realized that bgs at 19-39 is useless though, twinkparties :-P |
| 10:10.52 | Codayus | It was a pretty big nerf at the time. A lot has changed since... |
| 10:11.14 | Diao | strange |
| 10:11.21 | Diao | i remember blue post saying they would revert it for slam |
| 10:11.25 | Diao | guess they never did? |
| 10:11.38 | starlon | I never saw a blue saying that |
| 10:12.08 | Codayus | *shurg* Don't recall seeing one, doesn't mean it didn't exist. Doesn't mean they didn't revert it either; I mostly ignore DPS warrior theorycrafting. :-) |
| 10:12.21 | starlon | I keep up with the EJ forums fairly regularly. I'm sure I would have caught it. |
| 10:12.34 | Diao | well in any case |
| 10:12.37 | Diao | it procs often enough |
| 10:12.52 | starlon | I love WF |
| 10:12.54 | Diao | Xinhuan around? |
| 10:12.57 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:13.07 | Diao | any idea if blizz changed the honor reset time? |
| 10:13.10 | starlon | Our enh shaman went casual though :( |
| 10:13.11 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:13.14 | Diao | last night it reset like 2 hours late |
| 10:13.18 | thul | casual = tehwin |
| 10:13.19 | Xinhuan | it was 35 min ago |
| 10:13.19 | starlon | So I don't know if I'll be seeing much wf now |
| 10:13.20 | Diao | and my honor hasn't reset for today either |
| 10:13.25 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:13.26 | Diao | weird |
| 10:13.32 | Diao | i relogged 15 min ago to check |
| 10:13.34 | Diao | and it hadn't reset for me |
| 10:13.38 | Xinhuan | dunn |
| 10:13.38 | Xinhuan | o |
| 10:13.48 | Xinhuan | mine isn't updated either |
| 10:14.59 | Arrowmaster | honor has always been bugged if your online when it calcs |
| 10:15.08 | Diao | well |
| 10:15.09 | Diao | yeah |
| 10:15.10 | Diao | but what i do is |
| 10:15.17 | Diao | i logout 15 min before the update and login 15 min after |
| 10:15.41 | Diao | our update is at like 1:41 server, so i generally logout at 1:26 and login at ~2am |
| 10:15.45 | Diao | and my honor didn't update properly |
| 10:15.48 | Diao | so i'm rather confused |
| 10:16.44 | Xinhuan | its cp update now |
| 10:16.50 | Xinhuan | just lagging started |
| 10:16.53 | Diao | oh |
| 10:16.57 | Diao | yep there it is |
| 10:17.02 | Diao | guild bank started lagging lol |
| 10:17.25 | Xinhuan | also raiding right now with 1 arm |
| 10:17.33 | Diao | how's it going? |
| 10:17.48 | Xinhuan | i leftclickcast to frostbolt, rght to sheep |
| 10:17.49 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 10:17.59 | Xinhuan | and click the rest |
| 10:19.10 | Xinhuan | left click AI, right decurse |
| 10:19.56 | Diao | lol |
| 10:20.02 | Diao | focus macros etc? |
| 10:20.07 | kaiden | ding 70 pally woot woot :P |
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| 10:20.13 | Diao | grats kaiden |
| 10:20.18 | bigzero | anyone familiar with prolog? |
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| 10:21.17 | Lukian | our update is at like 1:41 server <- It's processed over a period of time! |
| 10:25.13 | Diao | lukian it updates from 1:41-1:46 generally :) |
| 10:25.51 | Lukian | interesting interval, but that makes sense with blizzard's clusters I guess |
| 10:25.59 | Lukian | similar to rolling restarts |
| 10:26.14 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:26.26 | Diao | haven't played a druid for like 2 years |
| 10:26.40 | Diao | does anyone know if a target is immune to movement impairing effects if feral charge still silences? |
| 10:26.51 | Diao | interrupts* |
| 10:30.03 | Lukian | haha: http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2857/barthcopyse8.jpg |
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| 10:30.28 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:30.31 | Diao | lol |
| 10:34.48 | Xinhuan | it should diao |
| 10:35.07 | Diao | kk |
| 10:35.52 | kaiden | what's the best talent distribution for tanking as a paladin |
| 10:36.00 | kaiden | in 5-man's / heroics.. and maybe some kara/gruul runs? |
| 10:36.53 | Diao | 0/49/12 |
| 10:36.54 | Diao | afaik |
| 10:36.56 | Diao | standard tank spec |
| 10:37.24 | Xinhuan | !c us blackrock Avelynn |
| 10:37.27 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Avelynn, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/51/10). 15467 HP; 7278 Mana; 86 mana regen; 18192 Armour; 76.300 Melee DPS; 4.21% melee crit; 21 melee hit; 21 spell crit; 429 +spell dmg/heal; 379 defense; 17.38% dodge; 22.25% block;[[ TBR: 1061 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv5n2n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mumnz ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 05:37:48 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:37.33 | Xinhuan | thats our prot pally |
| 10:37.49 | kaiden | thank you Xinhuan :) |
| 10:38.00 | Xinhuan | MTed most bosses before |
| 10:38.14 | Xinhuan | in hyjal |
| 10:38.52 | kaiden | holy lord that's a lot of stamina |
| 10:38.53 | kaiden | lol |
| 10:39.22 | kaiden | ok i'll give that spec a try |
| 10:39.27 | kaiden | odd that she only has 379 defense though |
| 10:39.30 | kaiden | would expect a LOT more |
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| 10:43.15 | Diao | 379 defense rating |
| 10:43.20 | Diao | is much more than 379 defense :) |
| 10:43.30 | kaiden | oh that's defense rating |
| 10:43.34 | kaiden | well.. thraebot should be specific |
| 10:43.38 | kaiden | and not just say 379 defense; ;) |
| 10:43.39 | Xinhuan | uh defense rating != defense |
| 10:45.37 | kaiden | i think i'm gonna take the 0/49/12 route.. i just dont see the point in having 5% extra to 1h weapon damage |
| 10:45.51 | Xinhuan | 5% more threat |
| 10:45.59 | Xinhuan | from damage |
| 10:46.09 | Xinhuan | a pally's threat comes mostly from damage |
| 10:46.26 | kaiden | yea yea .. but wouldn't you much rather have 15% reduced mana cost from judgements and seals |
| 10:46.32 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:46.33 | kaiden | that way you can generate 15% more threat from those? |
| 10:46.40 | Xinhuan | you get mana heaps from being healed |
| 10:46.43 | Diao | er |
| 10:46.54 | Diao | does it apply to reflected damage? |
| 10:46.55 | Xinhuan | won't ever run out |
| 10:47.04 | kaiden | ok i'll give the 0/51/10 a try |
| 10:47.30 | kaiden | i'm so surprised they dont have increased devotion aura |
| 10:47.38 | kaiden | i understand there's just not enough points for it |
| 10:47.43 | kaiden | but it seems like such a nice ability to have |
| 10:47.55 | Xinhuan | try checking other guild's prot pallies |
| 10:49.53 | Zhinjio | armor ends up being minor compared to threat generation |
| 10:49.56 | kaiden | most people stick to the same general build so it can't be bad |
| 10:49.59 | evl | here's my previous guilds pala tank: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Fashco |
| 10:50.00 | evl | 50/11 |
| 10:50.05 | Zhinjio | I'm a prot pally. |
| 10:50.24 | kaiden | Zhinjio, would you mind terribly if i ask a few questions? |
| 10:50.25 | Zhinjio | I tank in ret aura, not devo aura. |
| 10:50.28 | Zhinjio | not at all |
| 10:50.55 | kaiden | Well, i leveled this char 100% dual box and i'm just gonna try getting the feel for tanking tonight on it, building it strictly for a heroic 5 man group that my roommates and 2 rl friends are starting |
| 10:51.07 | Zhinjio | I don't claim to be an expert, but I do pretty well in kara and the heroics I've done. |
| 10:51.17 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 10:51.42 | kaiden | what i'm wanting to make sure i understand is... the aggro phase.. 1, always have up righteousness.. 2, pull with avengers shield, 3, judge crusader, 4, put up seal of righteousness |
| 10:51.51 | kaiden | rinse and repeat, with a consecrate for extra aggro on ae pulls |
| 10:51.56 | kaiden | as long as the cc is out of the way |
| 10:51.57 | kaiden | right? :) |
| 10:52.04 | Zhinjio | one sec... fighting... |
| 10:53.17 | kaiden | well hopefully i'll be able to avoid that |
| 10:53.23 | kaiden | though our cc will be a hunter |
| 10:53.25 | kaiden | and a lock |
| 10:53.32 | kaiden | so they should be able to easily pull the mob back before cc'ing |
| 10:53.39 | Zhinjio | pl/// |
| 10:53.48 | Zhinjio | ok... |
| 10:54.01 | Zhinjio | If I want to dump instant threat... its generally. |
| 10:54.09 | Zhinjio | avenging wrath, avenger's shield. |
| 10:54.15 | Zhinjio | SoR, judge, SoV |
| 10:54.17 | Zhinjio | consecrate |
| 10:54.26 | Zhinjio | you want Sanc for blessing, ret for aura |
| 10:54.36 | Zhinjio | keep righteous fury up allatime. |
| 10:54.44 | Zhinjio | holy shield if needed depending on the fight |
| 10:54.56 | Zhinjio | gbosses, you should have holy shield up whenever your cooldown is up |
| 10:55.03 | greppy | (all this paladin talk makes me want to dust off my lvl 40 paladin) |
| 10:55.13 | Zhinjio | you should be able to dump about 11-15k threat in the first 5 seconds |
| 10:55.21 | Zhinjio | after that, about... 500 tps after that |
| 10:55.26 | kaiden | jesus.. that's a lot |
| 10:55.36 | Zhinjio | if you're being healed consistently, you should never run out of mana |
| 10:55.51 | Zhinjio | thats what pallies are good for: insta-threat. |
| 10:56.01 | Zhinjio | its like a threat bomb, honestly. |
| 10:56.16 | kaiden | ok now what about gear types... i hear different things.. most people say focus on str/sta/defense and only get the pally specific gear if it's an upgrade |
| 10:56.27 | Zhinjio | forget strength |
| 10:56.33 | FinalX | aye, pallies are fun with that. avenger's shield allows people to start nuking instantly :P |
| 10:56.41 | Zhinjio | work on defense until you hit 490 (uncrittable) |
| 10:57.00 | kaiden | Zhinjio, so should i focus on dmg and healing at all? |
| 10:57.02 | Zhinjio | then you want dodge/parry and especially block until you're uncrushable (102.4% avoidance) |
| 10:57.05 | Zhinjio | (with holy shield) |
| 10:57.14 | Zhinjio | once you've got that, stam + spelldmg |
| 10:57.22 | Zhinjio | you shouldn't ever be healing yourself. |
| 10:57.33 | Zhinjio | if you're spending time casting, you can't be blocking. |
| 10:57.39 | Zhinjio | so thats generally bad. |
| 10:57.42 | kaiden | righto wouldn't ever be healing myself |
| 10:57.43 | kaiden | :) |
| 10:57.46 | Zhinjio | anything you cast should have very short cast times. |
| 10:58.15 | Zhinjio | consecrate/avenger's shield/holy shield and judgements are about it, and they're all insta-cast except the avenger's shield. |
| 10:58.25 | Zhinjio | but thats short enough not to interrupt your damager dealing for too long |
| 10:58.43 | Zhinjio | you can generate even MORE threat if its undead or demonic (exorcism) ... like Prince in Kara. |
| 10:59.21 | Zhinjio | in our last prince fight, when we finished, I had 150K threat, the next closest was our mage, at 86K |
| 10:59.26 | Zhinjio | noone was using salvation |
| 10:59.28 | Zhinjio | it wasn't needed |
| 10:59.39 | Diao | lol |
| 10:59.59 | Zhinjio | and I'm getting enough heals during that that I don't think my mana was ever below 50% |
| 11:00.05 | Zhinjio | especially phase 2 |
| 11:00.13 | kaiden | so seal of crusader not needed at all? |
| 11:00.17 | Zhinjio | nope. |
| 11:00.22 | kaiden | k just setting up my bars :P |
| 11:00.28 | kaiden | and vaulting my healer gear |
| 11:00.32 | Zhinjio | I don't even have it |
| 11:00.34 | Diao | don't you need crusader in the very beginning |
| 11:00.39 | Diao | for the first judgement o_o |
| 11:00.49 | Zhinjio | no, SoR, judge, SoV, judge, rinse repeat |
| 11:00.57 | Zhinjio | I don't even have crusader |
| 11:01.06 | Diao | oh alliance |
| 11:01.13 | Zhinjio | you can see my spec on Armory if you want. Zhinjio@Hellscream |
| 11:01.16 | Zhinjio | spec/gear |
| 11:01.22 | Zhinjio | I *just* hit uncrushable last week |
| 11:01.40 | Diao | i'm surprised people don't get imp judge |
| 11:01.41 | Zhinjio | now I need to work on stamina/spelldmg |
| 11:01.50 | Diao | considering most fights are 3+ minutes |
| 11:02.00 | kaiden | not doing too bad i think.. hit 70.. bought my first flying mount, fully trained |
| 11:02.02 | kaiden | and have 600g |
| 11:02.15 | Zhinjio | I took spell warding insstead. |
| 11:02.20 | Zhinjio | its a discussion/contention point. *shrug* |
| 11:02.32 | kaiden | i spec'd exactly like Xinhuan said 0/51/10 |
| 11:02.41 | Diao | ah |
| 11:02.46 | Diao | imo if it's a spelldamage taken fight |
| 11:02.48 | Diao | let the warriors tank it ;p |
| 11:02.55 | Diao | they've got 16% reduction to spells |
| 11:03.09 | Diao | instead of 10% |
| 11:03.19 | Xinhuan | btw never cast a spell with a cast time if you are tanking, cos you cannot shield block |
| 11:03.33 | Xinhuan | while casting |
| 11:03.45 | Zhinjio | yeah, X, I mentioned that above. |
| 11:03.51 | Diao | yep |
| 11:03.59 | Diao | whihc is why i don't understand why arena paladins take redoubt |
| 11:04.15 | Diao | they're casting 90% of the time, block chance is irrelevant |
| 11:05.26 | Zhinjio | I love pally tanking, honestly |
| 11:05.46 | Diao | i love having pally tanks cause i can unload right away |
| 11:05.53 | Diao | instead of waiting for threat |
| 11:05.55 | Zhinjio | you have about a half dozen things you need to be doing, and managing the cooldowns on... its just about perfect. |
| 11:06.09 | Diao | warrior tanking is more involved though |
| 11:06.15 | Zhinjio | also: you can theoretically tank any number of targets. |
| 11:06.17 | Zhinjio | which is awesome. |
| 11:06.24 | Zhinjio | SH runs are just awesome. |
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| 11:06.32 | Diao | yea |
| 11:06.41 | Zhinjio | and BM without someone on adds. heh |
| 11:06.42 | Diao | i refuse to tank SH on my warrior; i only run it if a pally tanks it lol |
| 11:06.58 | Diao | well.. you still need someone on adds |
| 11:07.05 | Diao | cause they have to die somehow ;) |
| 11:07.16 | Zhinjio | well yeah, but they don't have kite them all over the place. |
| 11:07.28 | Diao | lol |
| 11:07.31 | Zhinjio | just pick them off you one at a time. |
| 11:07.37 | Diao | i wouldn't know |
| 11:07.44 | Diao | if i dps BM i'm on adds as arms warrior |
| 11:07.47 | Diao | i just pop sweeping strikes |
| 11:07.51 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 11:07.53 | Diao | whirlwind whenever it's up |
| 11:07.57 | Diao | dead adds as soon as they spawn :) |
| 11:08.00 | Diao | i literally 1-2 shot any add |
| 11:08.01 | Zhinjio | we usually have a mage, lock or hunter do it. |
| 11:08.05 | kaiden | lol missing some gear but meh... gotta get a helm, neck, bracers, and 1 ring |
| 11:08.08 | Zhinjio | but yeah, I can see that. |
| 11:08.10 | kaiden | up to 417 defense though |
| 11:08.14 | Zhinjio | whats yr .... ah. |
| 11:08.18 | Zhinjio | yeah, need to work on that. |
| 11:08.25 | kaiden | not doing too bad since i just ding'd 70 |
| 11:08.27 | Zhinjio | thats yr first gear target, 490 defense., |
| 11:08.27 | kaiden | and just took quest gear |
| 11:08.36 | Zhinjio | good deal. |
| 11:09.02 | starlon | Arms warriors are still specing sweeping strikes? |
| 11:09.20 | Zhinjio | Until you're in the completely leet gear, I'd recommend the two smallest pieces of righteousness gear... |
| 11:09.24 | Zhinjio | spaulders and bracers |
| 11:09.34 | Zhinjio | they give you the consecrate bonus |
| 11:09.51 | Zhinjio | the other pieces you're going to replace with much better stuff pretty quick |
| 11:09.58 | Zhinjio | especially if you're running heroics |
| 11:09.59 | kaiden | Zhinjio, i'll try my hardest, these guys want to immediately dump me into heroics |
| 11:10.09 | Zhinjio | yeah dude. thats going to be really damn tough |
| 11:10.13 | Lukian | Hmm I just installed Auctioneer Advanced on my housemate's pc and the auction house display is different to mine |
| 11:10.15 | Lukian | it's more standard |
| 11:10.22 | kaiden | Zhinjio, we have a warlock with 1800 dmg |
| 11:10.29 | kaiden | and a shaman with +2100 healing |
| 11:10.35 | kaiden | it shouldn't be too terribly tough ;) |
| 11:10.45 | kaiden | as long as i can hold aggro that is |
| 11:10.49 | Zhinjio | heh. let me know how that works out for you. *grin* |
| 11:10.59 | Diao | starlon: 33/28 |
| 11:11.00 | Diao | for pve |
| 11:11.07 | kaiden | they promised to do a few regular runs to get me some gear |
| 11:11.15 | kaiden | and i'm gonna tag along on offnight kara's to grab the extra gear |
| 11:11.17 | kaiden | that nobody ever wants |
| 11:11.22 | Diao | Lukian: enable/disable compact UI |
| 11:11.27 | starlon | I'm just surprised you take sweeping strikes |
| 11:11.38 | starlon | I guess there's no reason not to |
| 11:11.57 | Zhinjio | prince and nightbane have some great tanking pieces... but there's others scattered on all the bosses. |
| 11:12.35 | starlon | Swapping DW and SS made no sense at all. I'm still trying to figure out why. |
| 11:12.59 | Lukian | Diao, how? |
| 11:13.01 | kaiden | I am thinking about getting some pieces crafted |
| 11:13.05 | kaiden | i'm pretty sure i have some felsteel crafted |
| 11:13.09 | Diao | in the auctioneer adv options |
| 11:13.10 | kaiden | and some enchanted adamantite |
| 11:13.14 | Diao | in top right of your screen |
| 11:13.20 | Diao | mouseover the little tab thing |
| 11:13.24 | Diao | click the gold coins |
| 11:13.41 | starlon | I have to admit, though, I am having fun with sweeping strikes. |
| 11:14.06 | Diao | under util modules, compactui |
| 11:14.06 | Diao | enable |
| 11:14.18 | kaiden | hate having my gear strewn all across so many chars |
| 11:14.19 | Lukian | Diao, it looks like auctioneer isn't actually loaded.. |
| 11:14.24 | Lukian | just the other addons |
| 11:14.30 | Diao | lol |
| 11:14.35 | Diao | o_O |
| 11:15.11 | Diao | btw starlon i don't know any arms warriors who don't still go at least 21 fury except for those few who go 21 prot for conc blow :P |
| 11:15.59 | starlon | Yeah I don't keep up with pvp warrior topics |
| 11:16.05 | Lukian | Diao, but the scan button is there.. |
| 11:16.12 | Lukian | lol |
| 11:16.19 | Diao | well |
| 11:16.22 | Diao | pve arms you spec like so: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czAbog0dZVxzm0gRc |
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| 11:16.54 | Diao | imp demo swappable for booming voice/unbridled wrath as you so choose |
| 11:17.09 | Diao | imp execute for weapon mastery as well |
| 11:17.53 | Zhinjio | kaiden, you can also start aoe farming on yr pally once yr defense is high enough! |
| 11:17.56 | Zhinjio | *grin* |
| 11:18.02 | Zhinjio | and get the Figuring of the Colossus. |
| 11:18.09 | starlon | I picked up a world breaker recently. I should play around with that for a week. |
| 11:18.11 | Zhinjio | s/ing/ine/ |
| 11:18.30 | Zhinjio | its so much fun. |
| 11:19.00 | Zhinjio | I make about... hmm. maybe 200g/hr on a good day. |
| 11:20.57 | Lukian | Diao, maybe the 2616 build is broken? |
| 11:21.04 | Diao | 2616? |
| 11:21.05 | Diao | o_O |
| 11:21.07 | Diao | oh |
| 11:21.15 | Diao | let me see what version i'm running |
| 11:21.26 | Diao | nope |
| 11:21.27 | Diao | that's what i'm using |
| 11:21.29 | kaiden | Zhinjio, 200g/hr ?? |
| 11:21.29 | kaiden | how |
| 11:21.32 | Diao | are you using the package? |
| 11:21.32 | Lukian | I'm using 2505 |
| 11:21.40 | Diao | aoe farming probably kaiden |
| 11:21.44 | Zhinjio | yes. |
| 11:21.47 | kaiden | yeah but where |
| 11:21.47 | kaiden | lol |
| 11:21.51 | Zhinjio | I made a video of it awhile back... hmm. |
| 11:21.54 | Zhinjio | lemme find it. |
| 11:22.13 | Diao | many places |
| 11:22.18 | kaiden | Zhinjio, also... mind assisting me with 1 thing, i'm up to 441 defense |
| 11:22.25 | kaiden | i have 4items with sockets on them |
| 11:22.25 | Diao | the BE just outside BT for example |
| 11:22.28 | Diao | demonhunter types |
| 11:22.33 | Zhinjio | yes, thats the perfect spot./ |
| 11:22.35 | kaiden | would you suggest i ignore socket bonuses and goa ll defense? |
| 11:22.39 | Zhinjio | its where I am right now, in fact. |
| 11:22.49 | kaiden | hrm, i can farm those on my lock / priest / pally all at the same time ;) |
| 11:22.50 | kaiden | may be fun |
| 11:22.52 | Diao | there are many items with defense on them |
| 11:22.54 | Xinhuan | you should check the armory profiles we liked u earlier |
| 11:22.55 | kaiden | with concentration aura |
| 11:22.57 | Diao | no need to socket for defense |
| 11:22.57 | Xinhuan | for their ear |
| 11:22.59 | Xinhuan | gear |
| 11:22.59 | Zhinjio | kaiden, denepds on the bonus. things like dodge and block bonuses I'd try and keep |
| 11:23.06 | Xinhuan | linked* |
| 11:23.07 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56503 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.tw.lua TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua): |
| 11:23.07 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:23.07 | CIA-8 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 11:23.20 | kaiden | i just got the whole Felsteel set |
| 11:23.27 | Zhinjio | nice |
| 11:23.29 | kaiden | i had the helm already and someone was selling the gloves for 20g |
| 11:23.31 | kaiden | and the pants for 45 |
| 11:23.34 | kaiden | couldn't pass it up |
| 11:24.08 | kaiden | Xinhuan, hehe those profiles == gear far beyond me :) |
| 11:25.51 | Zhinjio | what the heck is that file storing site I used. someone on here recommended it to me. |
| 11:25.55 | Zhinjio | damnikt |
| 11:26.00 | kaiden | box.net? |
| 11:28.34 | Zhinjio | filefront, I think. checking |
| 11:28.47 | Lukian | Diao, maybe it failed to initialse on first load? |
| 11:28.48 | Diao | o_o |
| 11:28.51 | Diao | it might've |
| 11:28.53 | Lukian | Diao, do you use enchantrix? |
| 11:29.02 | Diao | yea |
| 11:29.03 | Diao | i use the entire package |
| 11:29.13 | Lukian | weird |
| 11:29.23 | Zhinjio | http://files.filefront.com/PallyTankingavi/;8891303;/fileinfo.html |
| 11:29.30 | Zhinjio | that the video I was talking about. |
| 11:31.48 | Zhinjio | gah, thats my old UI. oh well. |
| 11:32.47 | Diao | i need to redo my ui |
| 11:32.51 | Diao | tuller isn't around |
| 11:33.19 | haste | are those two related :p ? |
| 11:33.19 | Diao | need to ask him if there's a way to stop the lag without disabling the "show pulse" option when a school gets locked out and then all refreshes at once |
| 11:33.26 | Diao | for omnicc |
| 11:33.34 | Diao | cause when i get silenced or interrupted on a holy pally |
| 11:33.45 | Diao | my UI freezes for a sec or two when the flash occurs |
| 11:33.52 | Diao | after everything becomes "ready" |
| 11:34.17 | Xinhuan | don't use show pulse :) |
| 11:34.31 | Xinhuan | its distracting and unnecessary really |
| 11:34.33 | Diao | well duh :P |
| 11:34.50 | Diao | it's nice when i'm not paying attention though |
| 11:34.53 | Diao | to see which ability is ready |
| 11:35.14 | Diao | but i guess if there's no solution i'll have to disable it |
| 11:35.24 | Zhinjio | didn't he recently make a new bag addon |
| 11:35.26 | Zhinjio | ? |
| 11:35.27 | Diao | cause having it freeze during pvp is painful |
| 11:35.30 | Diao | yeah, combuctor |
| 11:35.32 | Zhinjio | I was going to check it out, but haven't looked for it. |
| 11:36.07 | Zhinjio | doesn't he have his own google groups site or something? I forget. |
| 11:36.20 | Diao | http://tullamods.googlecode.com/ |
| 11:36.48 | Diao | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shandris&n=Sulgyf |
| 11:36.51 | Diao | untalented |
| 11:38.47 | Zhinjio | excellent. I'll check it out shortly |
| 11:39.10 | kaiden | Zhinjio, 472 defense, 13% dodge, 15% parry, 12.2% block |
| 11:39.19 | kaiden | not too bad? |
| 11:39.49 | Zhinjio | not at all. that was quick |
| 11:40.04 | kaiden | i'm a packrat |
| 11:40.06 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 11:40.07 | kaiden | i have lots of goodies |
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| 11:40.33 | kaiden | to express how packratty i am.... i sold half of the inventory (not including bank) of 1 of my chars the other day and made 4800g |
| 11:40.34 | kaiden | :P |
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| 11:40.43 | Diao | o_O |
| 11:40.50 | Diao | i made like 5k gold the day s3 came out |
| 11:40.53 | kaiden | and i have 8 more banks exactly like it |
| 11:41.12 | kaiden | you gets LOTS of stuff leveling 16 characters to 70 ;/ |
| 11:41.29 | Diao | had like 30 stars of elune, 10+ nightseye/dawnstone/living ruby/topaz, banks full of enchanting mats, adamantite ore, etc |
| 11:41.37 | Diao | when adamantite ore shot up from 20g to 40g |
| 11:41.41 | Diao | i made some serious money :p |
| 11:41.46 | kaiden | i should sell some of that stuff |
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| 11:42.09 | kaiden | i have an entire bank full of khorium / adamntite and fel iron |
| 11:42.15 | kaiden | and 20-30 of each of the blue gems |
| 11:42.52 | Diao | lol |
| 11:43.03 | Diao | leveling 16 chars to 70.. do they all have 2x 375 prof? o_O |
| 11:43.17 | kaiden | naw, but half of them do |
| 11:43.25 | Diao | lol |
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| 11:43.31 | kaiden | my pana pool is SOOOO freaking low with this gear on |
| 11:43.34 | kaiden | only have 4k mana |
| 11:43.40 | Diao | how can you stand leveling so many characters to 70 and gearing them out |
| 11:43.50 | kaiden | Diao, meh, it's what i ahve fun doing |
| 11:44.26 | Orionshock | do mana potions drop from pick pocket farming? |
| 11:44.50 | Zhinjio | hmm, combuctor isn't loading. I must have done something wrong. |
| 11:45.00 | Zhinjio | or, the interface isn't loading. the addon is there. weird. |
| 11:45.28 | Diao | i get bored of alts the moment they hit 70 :( |
| 11:45.32 | Diao | hm |
| 11:45.48 | Diao | shouldn't it just take over your default bags? |
| 11:45.54 | kaiden | Zhinjio, lol.. that video is crazy |
| 11:46.11 | kaiden | dont you lose crazy durability doing that though? |
| 11:46.23 | Zhinjio | just on yr shield |
| 11:46.31 | Zhinjio | I need to repair about every 6 or 7 pulls |
| 11:46.37 | kaiden | Zhinjio, what's that panel on the left side of your screen |
| 11:46.38 | kaiden | under your buffs |
| 11:47.02 | Zhinjio | faction grinder |
| 11:47.13 | Zhinjio | I wasn't quite exalteed with scryer yet when I took that |
| 11:47.23 | kaiden | ah you went scryer? |
| 11:47.30 | kaiden | i was told by everyone to go aldor :( so i did |
| 11:47.49 | Diao | i generally get scryer to exalted first |
| 11:47.52 | Diao | then switch to aldor |
| 11:47.59 | Diao | since the aldor enchants are better |
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| 11:48.28 | Zhinjio | any thoughts on why combuctor isn't loading for me? I can't even open my inventory |
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| 11:49.06 | Zhinjio | i even tried with keybindings, nothing |
| 11:49.22 | Zhinjio | I mean, the addon loads, but nothing comes up when I try to open it |
| 11:49.26 | Wobin | Orionshock: Yes |
| 11:49.31 | Wobin | Orionshock: But very very rarely |
| 11:49.41 | Wobin | I can recall maybe one for every 20 or so health |
| 11:49.50 | Ozguli- | never seen one myself |
| 11:49.58 | Ozguli- | always got healing ones |
| 11:50.02 | Wobin | hm, then again, it may have been normal loot |
| 11:50.03 | Diao | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9515.0 |
| 11:50.06 | Wobin | Which is more likely |
| 11:50.15 | Diao | You can bring up the window by clicking on a bag, pressing a bag's hotkey, or pressing whatever hotkey you set for Combuctor. |
| 11:50.15 | CIA-8 | 03ammo * r56504 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fix bug that caused headers not to be displayed when reporting data to a channel |
| 11:50.15 | Ozguli- | I've run mana tombs just for pick pocket loot |
| 11:50.15 | Diao | doesn't work? |
| 11:50.28 | Wobin | MT have a couple of nice chests |
| 11:50.41 | Ozguli- | hmm |
| 11:50.48 | Wobin | I've ground on the ogres for the Ragesteel pattern |
| 11:50.55 | Ozguli- | mech had too |
| 11:51.00 | Wobin | Used to |
| 11:51.03 | Wobin | =( |
| 11:51.18 | Ozguli- | they apparently got removed |
| 11:51.18 | Wobin | yeah |
| 11:51.22 | Wobin | irritating =P |
| 11:52.29 | Zhinjio | its not coming up for me. |
| 11:52.38 | Zhinjio | I think maybe it doesn't like being disembedded from its libs. |
| 11:52.47 | kaiden | Zhinjio, mourn my mana pool.. went from 10k mana to 3918 |
| 11:52.48 | kaiden | :( |
| 11:52.59 | Diao | do you have like |
| 11:53.00 | Diao | zero int |
| 11:53.04 | Diao | on your tank gear |
| 11:53.08 | kaiden | yup |
| 11:53.09 | kaiden | lol |
| 11:53.13 | Zhinjio | 156 |
| 11:53.16 | Diao | i know ret pallies with more mana |
| 11:53.17 | Diao | :\ |
| 11:53.20 | kaiden | 83 int |
| 11:53.24 | Zhinjio | mana is about 5k |
| 11:53.33 | kaiden | i'll get more soon... just will take time |
| 11:53.36 | Diao | haha |
| 11:54.18 | Zhinjio | changing embed.xml and seeing if that works out better |
| 11:55.33 | kaiden | welp 4am.. going to bed |
| 11:55.34 | kaiden | night night |
| 11:56.11 | Diao | night |
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| 11:59.18 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
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| 11:59.33 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56506 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (4 files): |
| 11:59.33 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 11:59.33 | CIA-8 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 12:00.15 | kaiden | http://files.filefront.com/Leyla2wmv/;7868278;/fileinfo.html |
| 12:00.20 | kaiden | that right there will make you laugh your ass off |
| 12:00.57 | kaiden | had to watch one last vid before i went to sleep lol |
| 12:05.47 | Zhinjio | yeah, it didn't like disembeeded libs. I just did the full download and its working. |
| 12:05.52 | Zhinjio | looks pretty darn nice. |
| 12:06.06 | Zhinjio | once it releases, that'll probably replace bagnon for me. |
| 12:12.03 | Lukian | Is there a repair vendor in Hinterlands for alliance? |
| 12:12.34 | Diao | should be |
| 12:12.36 | Diao | at aerie peak? |
| 12:13.04 | Ozguli- | kaiden |
| 12:13.12 | Ozguli- | you'll regen mana anyway all the time when you're healed |
| 12:13.53 | Lukian | found it |
| 12:13.55 | Lukian | well hidden XD |
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| 12:14.46 | Ozguli- | Zhinjio what addon? |
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| 12:17.27 | Ozguli- | btw this "cookie cutter" hemo/prep/ar build someone recommended me just pwns |
| 12:18.08 | evl | 0/31/30? |
| 12:19.50 | CIA-8 | 03borlox 07Ace3 * r56507 10CombatDnd/ (12 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:19.50 | CIA-8 | CombatDnd: |
| 12:19.50 | CIA-8 | - Ace3 alpha version of CDnd |
| 12:19.50 | CIA-8 | - Some new features (only Boss, only Elite, replacing {N} in the dnd msg with the targets name) |
| 12:20.35 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-133-106.student.uu.se) |
| 12:21.28 | Diao | yeah it's pretty cheap :( |
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| 12:52.59 | Lukian | There's a quest in tanaris (gadget) that requires an egg handin |
| 12:53.01 | Lukian | it's a machine |
| 12:53.07 | Lukian | what egg is it and what's it for? |
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| 12:54.15 | Diao | it's from feralas |
| 12:54.17 | FinalX | Hippogryph Egg from Feralas. |
| 12:54.25 | FinalX | Back at the mountains at the Ogres. |
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| 13:04.11 | Poul|Raider | does visuel studio run with wine, anyone know |
| 13:10.06 | Lukian | cheers |
| 13:11.51 | ramoz | you got beer? |
| 13:15.49 | Lukian | Poul|Raider, why would you use visual studio when you have a suite of open source development options? |
| 13:16.52 | Xinhuan | most possibly, his team uses it |
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| 13:18.31 | Poul|Raider | Lukian, the guy im gonna do a project with is useing it and telling me its nice when i dont know anything about asp.net because of "intellisense" |
| 13:18.45 | Poul|Raider | so i was just thinking if it was worth booting windows for it |
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| 13:21.35 | Xinhuan | is there a built in lua function that converts a string to title case? |
| 13:22.03 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r56508 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 4 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: small tweaks and fixes |
| 13:22.59 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: only upper/lower case |
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| 13:23.21 | Xinhuan | hmm, so i have to pattern match gsub to do it? |
| 13:23.32 | vhaarr | for example |
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| 13:26.24 | Poul|Raider | str = str:gsub("^%l", string.upper) |
| 13:27.02 | Xinhuan | that only converts the first letter, not every word |
| 13:27.13 | Poul|Raider | ahh |
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| 13:32.39 | Xinhuan | lua> str = string.gsub("AAA bbb CCC dddEEE FFFhhh JJJ", "%f[%a]%u+%f[%A]", string.lower) |
| 13:32.39 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 13:32.41 | Xinhuan | lua> string.gsub("AAA bbb CCC dddEEE FFFhhh JJJ", "%f[%a]%u+%f[%A]", string.lower) |
| 13:32.42 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: aaa bbb ccc dddEEE FFFhhh jjj, 3, |
| 13:33.16 | Poul|Raider | i found that one too, but gave up |
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| 13:34.54 | Xinhuan | lua> string.gsub("AAA bbb CCC dddEEE FFFhhh JJJ kKk", "%f[%a]%a", string.upper) |
| 13:34.55 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: AAA Bbb CCC DddEEE FFFhhh JJJ KKk, 7, |
| 13:35.11 | Xinhuan | there, solved |
| 13:36.22 | Xinhuan | lua> string.gsub("AAA bbb CCC dddEEE FFFhhh JJJ kKk", "%f[%a]%l", string.upper) |
| 13:36.22 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: AAA Bbb CCC DddEEE FFFhhh JJJ KKk, 3, |
| 13:36.33 | Xinhuan | thats less function calls |
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| 13:38.41 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r56509 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/healthbar/healthbar.lua: ag_UnitFrames: bugfix aggro code |
| 13:39.59 | Stanzilla | mmm fish still broken :( |
| 13:41.09 | Xinhuan | lua> string.gsub("i'm a big cat that_is ice-cream l33t", "%f[^%s]%l", string.upper) |
| 13:41.09 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: i'm A Big Cat That_is Ice-cream L33t, 6, |
| 13:41.25 | Xinhuan | hmm |
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| 13:42.58 | Antiarc | I've developed the most perfect swlf-twinking method ever |
| 13:43.04 | Antiarc | I have my new shaman |
| 13:43.07 | Antiarc | And my wife's hunter |
| 13:43.08 | Xinhuan | so how does that work, or not work |
| 13:43.10 | Antiarc | In stockades |
| 13:43.17 | Antiarc | Pet on aggressive |
| 13:43.21 | Antiarc | Hunter autofollowing shaman |
| 13:43.27 | Antiarc | Shaman earthshocks something, pet eats it |
| 13:43.50 | Ozguli- | lol |
| 13:44.07 | Diao | lol |
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| 13:51.49 | Antiarc | This almost feels like cheating >_> |
| 13:55.04 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 14:01.07 | xyu` | if the mob is gray to the pet do you still get full xp? |
| 14:01.16 | Antiarc | I was getting about 40x per |
| 14:01.19 | Antiarc | 40xp |
| 14:01.24 | Antiarc | But I wanted it for the stockades quests |
| 14:01.35 | xyu` | ah ok |
| 14:01.40 | Antiarc | Probably 15-20k xp right there |
| 14:02.55 | xyu` | i used to tap mobs that were green to my friend's character and use him to kill the mob in a few hits for full xp |
| 14:03.48 | xyu` | I use voice commands to control the second account, it's really awesome :D |
| 14:04.15 | dieck | voice commands? |
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| 14:04.36 | xyu` | yeah, if i say "fireball" in my microphone, the second (minimized) account will cast fireball |
| 14:04.40 | dieck | like a software doing keypresses on voice activation? or like you commaned someone else? ;) |
| 14:04.50 | dieck | lol |
| 14:04.50 | xyu` | software hah |
| 14:04.54 | dieck | what software is that? |
| 14:04.56 | xyu` | it's called "Voice commander" |
| 14:05.08 | many | heh. |
| 14:05.14 | xyu` | it comes w/ a priest setup by default, which works nicely too |
| 14:05.16 | many | right after suntsu, teh dieck. |
| 14:05.25 | Xyphor|ZzZ | http://www.gamecommander.com/ |
| 14:05.32 | dieck | hm, ok. I'd never use it for myself, though. "Greater Heal Rang ... never mind, tank's dead" :) |
| 14:05.53 | xyu` | hah i thought about that |
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| 14:06.15 | xyu` | playing my main w/ voice commands. i think it's too much work though :P |
| 14:06.37 | kenlyric | anything up with wau at the moment? |
| 14:07.07 | kenlyric | .application says it can't download it. |
| 14:07.37 | xyu` | fresh install? |
| 14:07.46 | kenlyric | yhes |
| 14:08.29 | xyu` | i just opened mine, thought you might have meant the updater or something. I haven't tried downloading it in a while. |
| 14:10.19 | xyu` | I'm curious about something: is the berzerk in WSG, or any of the powerups in AB on fixed timers, and if they are is it possible for an addon to time their respawn? |
| 14:10.38 | xyu` | hmm i guess they woudln't know when they are picked up |
| 14:10.40 | xyu` | prob impossible |
| 14:10.49 | Ozguli- | well |
| 14:10.53 | Ozguli- | ah nvm |
| 14:10.59 | xyu` | but perhaps if you're the one that got the buff, it'l time when it will be up next |
| 14:11.03 | xyu` | so you can get it again :P |
| 14:11.39 | xyu` | i was playing old school quake and remember having timers to know when quad damage was up. gave me this idea heh |
| 14:11.43 | Diao | lol |
| 14:11.47 | Chexsum | i need a vote; http://www.asusnotebook.com.au/676_ASUS-G1S-G1S-AK048G-Notebook-Intel-Centrino-Duo-T7500-with-Vista-Ultima.php vs http://www.pcezy.com.au/home/product_detail.asp?pcatid=5&catid=&prodid=80 for playing wow and recording it :P |
| 14:12.04 | Diao | i think my roommates would think i went insane if i started calling out spells :( |
| 14:12.06 | dieck | for recording? don't take a notebook |
| 14:12.32 | nevcairiel | recording wow? get a mac, OP native recording |
| 14:12.41 | Industrial | ^ |
| 14:12.42 | Chexsum | do you think the pc is a good one ? |
| 14:12.51 | Industrial | i tried recording some on pc |
| 14:12.52 | Chexsum | f 4 grand macs :P |
| 14:13.02 | Industrial | 1. it cut my dps in half (10fps) |
| 14:13.04 | dieck | which program do you plan to use for recording? fraps? |
| 14:13.06 | Industrial | 2. it sucked. |
| 14:13.07 | Chexsum | i cant afford one |
| 14:13.13 | Industrial | er fps* |
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| 14:13.29 | Diao | lol |
| 14:14.02 | Chexsum | if i could get one for 2500AU id consider mac but cant see anything decent for that |
| 14:14.04 | xyu` | I think they'll be able to record just fine. |
| 14:14.10 | Ozguli- | lols... voice commands |
| 14:14.24 | Ozguli- | "Turn left, cheap shot!" |
| 14:14.25 | dieck | Chexsum: as there are not hardware specifications for the pc, we cannot tell you whether it's good. Mainboard name and type is only the first thing missing. |
| 14:14.39 | Chexsum | theres not ? |
| 14:14.59 | Ozguli- | and you'd end up with D D D D D because it's faster to spell |
| 14:15.13 | Ozguli- | o.O |
| 14:15.19 | Chexsum | its an asus with sli capability - ill grab the brochure |
| 14:15.22 | xyu` | oz, i dont know mine recognizes my voice quite well |
| 14:15.29 | xyu` | i can speak in normal conversation speed |
| 14:15.51 | Ozguli- | yeah but spammable spells, you know :P |
| 14:15.53 | xyu` | but it's still only practical for healbots on autofollow :P |
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| 14:16.27 | dieck | Chexsum: hm, afaik the Q6600 has 1066 bus speed, so 667mhz ram might slow something down. |
| 14:16.30 | Chexsum | blah it doesnt list the board on there |
| 14:16.40 | Ozguli- | odd... can't connect to quakenet |
| 14:16.45 | Chexsum | i think its that one |
| 14:16.54 | kenlyric | forgot you have to install through IE first. |
| 14:16.58 | dieck | Chexsum: ok, asus as such is not that bad ;) |
| 14:17.09 | Chexsum | yeah it is |
| 14:17.44 | Chexsum | itll have a 8800 GT also instead of the gtx |
| 14:18.02 | dieck | have you any information about power supply? |
| 14:18.10 | dieck | for intel quad you need a rock stable one |
| 14:18.35 | CIA-8 | 03samuelcup * r56510 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-zhCN.lua: Bartender3: zhCN updated |
| 14:18.38 | dieck | some friends of mine upgraded to enermax (I think liberty series) because their old power supplies forced the Q to crash sometimes |
| 14:18.54 | Chexsum | doesnt say it here but the guy at the store said it rocks for fps so convinced me that its decent :\ |
| 14:19.21 | dieck | hm, fps depends solely on the graphics more, in most cases and for that processor |
| 14:19.27 | dieck | so overall performance is left aside |
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| 14:20.09 | dieck | for recording especially in high res you'll need fast harddisks (maybe you can raid them) and a system that get's the data on to them. |
| 14:21.09 | Chexsum | 10krpm dual 500g in raid0 afaik |
| 14:21.17 | dieck | that'll be good |
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| 14:22.13 | Diao | are there 10krpm sata aside from raptor? |
| 14:22.26 | dieck | don't think so |
| 14:23.03 | Diao | mm |
| 14:23.04 | dieck | but if they built in raptors, I'll say for that price (~1000 Euro, if I calculated right) it's quite good |
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| 14:23.45 | dieck | though I'd try to get 1066mhz ram to match the processor -- if the boards is up to it |
| 14:24.14 | Chexsum | ko |
| 14:24.24 | Chexsum | i can adjust anything with it - they build their own |
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| 14:25.16 | Chexsum | eek 300 for the ram lol |
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| 14:25.34 | Diao | 2 or 4? |
| 14:25.46 | dieck | we calculated a "silent power" pc for some friends of mine some weeks ago and found a mantra: a high-end gaming pc costs about 3000 german marks. Was like that in 1996, 1999, 2001, and 1500 Euro now ;) (german prices) |
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| 14:28.01 | Chexsum | wish i knew more about harware |
| 14:28.05 | dieck | though pc prices are falling like college students on spring break, the "high end gaming" device of your choice will cost the same, no matter when you buy it. |
| 14:28.15 | *** part/#wowace emagdnim (n=mindgame@217.54.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 14:28.21 | kenlyric | so my issue with running quicktime and WoW is definitely solved by multiple processors. At work I just have hyperthreading and don't have the issue. |
| 14:28.30 | Chexsum | theyve got an ultimate gaming machine for 4000 |
| 14:28.50 | Diao | that's always true dieck :P |
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| 14:29.12 | Diao | the best of the best will always cost ~6k USD assuming you go all out on every piece |
| 14:29.24 | dieck | like that |
| 14:29.35 | Diao | which is why i go for 2nd best and pay 1/6 that ;) |
| 14:29.41 | Chexsum | its basically the same but with dual 8800 gts in sli moe and nice sound stuffs |
| 14:29.55 | Chexsum | i cant see much else different about them |
| 14:30.05 | dieck | but I'd recommend to take the second best. You'll regret your choice anyway, because there will be better devices out quite soon, and yours will have dropped in price before you fully installed your machine |
| 14:30.13 | kenlyric | only a fool buys best. |
| 14:30.21 | kenlyric | by the time the drivers are solid it's second best anyway. |
| 14:30.23 | dieck | so "second best" keeps the loss margin a little lower than absolute high end |
| 14:30.38 | dieck | :) |
| 14:30.38 | Diao | lol |
| 14:30.43 | Chexsum | with second best i can upgrade it to the best ATM) in a year :\ |
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| 14:30.59 | dieck | oh, ok, drivers are a good point, too |
| 14:31.20 | Chexsum | xp vs vista ? :P |
| 14:31.43 | Chexsum | the salesboy said go vista even though its a bit slower |
| 14:31.49 | dieck | repeat after me: "I will not touch vista before service pack 1" :) |
| 14:31.55 | Chexsum | lol |
| 14:32.07 | Diao | sp2 imo |
| 14:32.08 | Diao | lol |
| 14:32.24 | Chexsum | ill probably run linux on it anyway |
| 14:32.25 | Diao | however, reinstalling all your software after upgrade is quite a pain |
| 14:32.28 | Diao | so if you're lazy go vista |
| 14:32.31 | Ozguli- | xp is fine right now, except w2k would be lighter with some less functionality |
| 14:32.52 | dieck | oh, if you plan linux, just get a $500 machine, should work well enough ;) |
| 14:33.21 | Chexsum | but i want extreme! |
| 14:33.39 | Chexsum | ive always had 5 year old boxes |
| 14:33.42 | dieck | Ozguli-: many device drivers are not available for w2k, so I'd not run that anymore on new hardware |
| 14:33.56 | Chexsum | current one came out when win2k weas beta |
| 14:34.04 | Ozguli- | yeah that's the "less functionality" |
| 14:35.32 | sylvanaar_work | is this conversation STILL going on |
| 14:35.35 | Fisker- | hahahhaha |
| 14:35.41 | Fisker- | me and a ret paladin just took 4 alliance |
| 14:36.12 | Ozguli- | and you are a... |
| 14:36.24 | Chompers | furry |
| 14:36.29 | Chompers | + tail |
| 14:36.45 | Fisker- | holy |
| 14:36.47 | Fisker- | paladin |
| 14:36.52 | Ozguli- | oh. |
| 14:36.54 | sylvanaar_work | my |
| 14:36.59 | Fisker- | some 5 man group just ganked me |
| 14:37.03 | Fisker- | but i had soulstone |
| 14:37.12 | Fisker- | then our ret paladin showed up |
| 14:37.20 | Ozguli- | Fisker- I've gotten ganked by 5-man groups too |
| 14:37.22 | Fisker- | we got 4 but a rogue got away :P |
| 14:37.29 | Ozguli- | and I'm a rogue! |
| 14:37.30 | Fisker- | this was aweomse though |
| 14:37.40 | Chexsum | i gt ganked by a lvl 66 mana tombs group a few weeks ago |
| 14:37.44 | Chexsum | so embarassing |
| 14:38.00 | Fisker- | they were of course spitting on one |
| 14:38.01 | sylvanaar_work | i got ganked by a kara group |
| 14:38.03 | Ozguli- | you can't CC them anyway |
| 14:38.07 | Chexsum | 500 re holy priest droped like a lvl 1 critter |
| 14:38.13 | Ozguli- | sylvanaar won |
| 14:38.21 | Pkekyo| | fucksake...my guild has had two GMs quit within a month |
| 14:38.49 | Chompers | i was ganked by 25 hot women, then i went home and logged into wow |
| 14:38.50 | Chompers | true story |
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| 14:39.18 | dieck | maybe true, but not according to the truth ;) |
| 14:39.33 | Ellipsis | WTB Chompers's life |
| 14:39.52 | Pkekyo| | rofl Chompers |
| 14:40.02 | Pkekyo| | dieck: who's the truth? |
| 14:40.45 | sylvanaar_work | translation: <Chompers> i was ganked while tabbed out looking at porn |
| 14:40.59 | sylvanaar_work | arent you are girl Ellipsis? |
| 14:41.05 | Pkekyo| | rofl, indeed sylvanaar |
| 14:41.19 | Pkekyo| | sylvanaar_work: she is, but we shouldn't be judgemental... |
| 14:41.42 | Wogroipl | so? what's the problem with her wanting to get ganked by 25 women? |
| 14:41.44 | sylvanaar_work | lol, who is judging |
| 14:42.18 | sylvanaar_work | perhaps that was what Chompers was looking at when he was tabbed out...never know |
| 14:42.26 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 14:42.27 | sylvanaar_work | ok - im going to censor myself |
| 14:42.37 | kenlyric | grid's debuff's/missing buffs module needs to save by char. |
| 14:42.49 | Pkekyo| | something tells me kenlyric is gonna pop in and pop some great quote again... something like |
| 14:42.53 | Pkekyo| | ~kenlyric |
| 14:42.54 | purl | i heard kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
| 14:43.21 | kenlyric | too busy dealing with wow errors. |
| 14:43.33 | kenlyric | grid wants my hunter to know that everyone is missing Fort! |
| 14:43.35 | kenlyric | fail! |
| 14:43.58 | FinalX | grid wants my priest to know that people get cursed. like i care :P |
| 14:44.11 | kenlyric | that too. |
| 14:44.44 | kenlyric | I hate to switch to char profiles since they're evil and only 5% of the data is char specific. |
| 14:44.58 | FinalX | oh well, i kinda like knowing as our mage usually doesnt pay attention and our druid is busy tanking |
| 14:45.32 | Chexsum | l2restorative potion |
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| 14:45.50 | kenlyric | you mean, l2gkick mage |
| 14:46.19 | Chompers | i can't believe dexter is nearly over |
| 14:46.26 | Chompers | feels like its only just started |
| 14:46.32 | evl | only 2 seaons? |
| 14:46.32 | Chompers | heroes too |
| 14:46.44 | Chompers | it could be evl |
| 14:46.54 | Chompers | heroes was cut short too, with the strike |
| 14:47.02 | Chompers | reshot some scenes |
| 14:47.43 | evl | so how long has the strike been going on? |
| 14:48.19 | Chompers | few weeks i think, it better not last as long as the 80s strike |
| 14:48.27 | evl | how long was that? :P |
| 14:48.37 | Chompers | 5 months? |
| 14:48.37 | evl | and aren't the networks and movie companies losing a shiiitload of money every day? |
| 14:48.40 | kenlyric | johnaugust tells me 25 days, but that was 4 days ago. |
| 14:48.42 | kenlyric | so, 29 days |
| 14:49.00 | Chompers | yeah evl, they'll just have unscripted shows instead |
| 14:49.06 | Chompers | stuff like dancing on ice |
| 14:49.12 | kenlyric | it's pretty humorous how much the studios simply wanted to rape the writers. |
| 14:49.13 | Chompers | dancing with your pets, on ice |
| 14:49.20 | kenlyric | and how unapologetic they are about doing it. |
| 14:49.27 | Chompers | dancing with your pets on ice, IN THE JUNGLE |
| 14:49.38 | Chompers | dancing with your pets on ice in the jungle WITH CELEBZ |
| 14:49.43 | kenlyric | movie studios don't have the luxury of reality movies. |
| 14:49.48 | Pkekyo| | rofl, little brother is crying because I won't tell him what the wifi password is :) |
| 14:49.50 | kenlyric | oh god... don't let them see this chat and get ideas. |
| 14:49.54 | Chompers | the writers demans are totally fair |
| 14:49.58 | Chompers | *demands |
| 14:50.14 | mykx | this strike is stupid, I would imagine writing for these popular shows(Lost, 24, heroes, prison break etc etc) would pay very well but yet they are QQing about what? |
| 14:50.16 | kenlyric | the studios essentially want to be like Walmart, locking employees in after hours and not paying them. |
| 14:50.25 | Chompers | they have writers for Lost? |
| 14:50.31 | kenlyric | mykx: you're so fucking wrong there's not a word for how wrong you are. |
| 14:50.41 | Diao | iirc |
| 14:50.41 | evl | ^what he said |
| 14:50.44 | Chompers | i thought they just put clifhangers in a bag and randomly pulled them out |
| 14:50.50 | Diao | the writers get paid only 5c per dvd sold |
| 14:50.59 | Lukian | test |
| 14:51.06 | kenlyric | 1) 90% of the WGA members don't write for big shows. Even if they do, they typically write one episode per season. |
| 14:51.08 | mykx | 5cents per dvd? I don't think so |
| 14:51.15 | Chompers | yes mykx |
| 14:51.29 | Chompers | and with these shows going online as 'promos' they dont get paid for that |
| 14:51.34 | Chompers | totally shafted |
| 14:51.36 | kenlyric | 2) 50% of the WGA is unemployed at any given time. Both mean things mean they rely on residuals to make a living out of it. |
| 14:51.47 | kenlyric | writers don't get paid 5c per dvd. |
| 14:51.48 | kenlyric | it's 4c |
| 14:51.56 | kenlyric | they had the audacity to ask for 8c |
| 14:52.37 | Chompers | this was all done before vhs was big, so 'vhs could take off', they just never had the pay increase they deserved |
| 14:52.38 | kenlyric | so, studios said "fuck you, and also, let's get never give you residuals on internet streaming or downloads" |
| 14:52.53 | kenlyric | 1988 strike was mostly because of VHS :) |
| 14:53.08 | kenlyric | dvd isn't really the issue. The internet is. |
| 14:53.19 | Chompers | better pay them more, i want more battlestar >:| |
| 14:53.21 | kenlyric | studios don't want to give anybody anything for internet. |
| 14:53.24 | mykx | kenlyric do you actually work as a staff writer or are you pulling these numbers out of your ass? |
| 14:53.33 | evl | The ass is a big place |
| 14:53.38 | kenlyric | they claim it's a huge loss.... except when they're claiming it's a huge profit stream. |
| 14:53.50 | kenlyric | mykx: no, i'm pulling these numbers out of writers asses. |
| 14:53.55 | Chompers | kenlyrics ass is more informed than you'll ever be |
| 14:54.03 | kenlyric | JMS, for instance. |
| 14:54.38 | kenlyric | hmmm.. you can support the Writer's Strike and get Jamie Bamber's towel... |
| 14:54.40 | kenlyric | ewwwwww |
| 14:54.43 | Industrial | What does skinning talbuks get you on the AH? Im skilling u my kinning to be able to skin them - because I hope it will fuel my epic mount money a bit |
| 14:55.00 | Industrial | 600g now from quests in outlands (after 500g for epic riding) |
| 14:55.03 | Chompers | does it uh...have his sweat on? |
| 14:55.03 | Industrial | (er 600) |
| 14:55.11 | FinalX | w 111 |
| 14:55.13 | FinalX | oops |
| 14:55.23 | kenlyric | Chompers: given the picture they are using, I think so. |
| 14:55.30 | Chompers | awwwwww yeah |
| 14:55.41 | kenlyric | http://unitedhollywood.blogspot.com/2007/12/joss-whedon-looks-into-crystal-ball.html |
| 14:56.01 | kenlyric | here's the towel one http://unitedhollywood.blogspot.com/2007/12/pencils2mediamoguls-fan-raffle-madness.html |
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| 14:57.13 | dieck | Industrial: go for clefthoofs and serpents for thick clefthoof leather and cobra hides for LW armor kits, and e.g. fresh 70 druids heavy clefthoof set |
| 14:57.37 | Chompers | the smallville thing should say "the winner gets to cancel this show, horay!" |
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| 14:58.14 | Industrial | dieck: ok |
| 14:58.26 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r56511 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (6 files): |
| 14:58.26 | CIA-8 | Bartender4: |
| 14:58.26 | CIA-8 | - split actionbar module and prototype into independent files |
| 14:58.26 | CIA-8 | - added meta functions to update bars/buttons |
| 14:58.26 | CIA-8 | - first options |
| 14:58.42 | Industrial | dieck: still in hinterlands now tho :P |
| 14:59.02 | dieck | ok, long way to go |
| 14:59.20 | kenlyric | I fairly good summary of what the strike is about http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?ID=1-17690 |
| 14:59.27 | SunTsu | .o0( Smallville is great. As long you turn down the volumen and only look at Kristin Kreuk ) |
| 14:59.41 | kenlyric | and, the actors are getting shafted in the same way, so if it hadn't been writers, it would have been the actors this ummer. |
| 14:59.43 | kenlyric | *summer |
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| 15:00.21 | kenlyric | like in detroit, whoever's contract comes first is the one who gets to strike :) |
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| 15:00.41 | Industrial | dieck: skinning goes pretty fast tho.. I try to find a pack of mobs I can skin, put pet on defensive and shoot all of them once with mokey aspect on - my pet kills em one mby one, plus a trap |
| 15:01.14 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 15:01.37 | mykx | the thing is I'm not saying they shouldn't be on strike if they are indeed getting such crap pay. I just assumed they had a good pay wage and were on strike for more. |
| 15:01.38 | kenlyric | aoe trap imo |
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| 15:02.08 | kenlyric | a writer on a top tier show makes fairly decent money. |
| 15:02.36 | kenlyric | but that pay is based on what the first airing will earn. |
| 15:03.04 | kenlyric | and it continues to make money after that. |
| 15:03.08 | mykx | so uhh I guess pilots are a bitch huh lol |
| 15:03.56 | kenlyric | well, some costs you expect to spread across the earnings of a season (like a set), so pilots are typically expensive. |
| 15:04.02 | kenlyric | but hey, if they fail, no residuals required! |
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| 15:10.50 | kenlyric | can you make a macro fail if you have a buff active? |
| 15:11.19 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
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| 15:13.34 | kenlyric | macroed bloodrage/blood fury/battle shout together, and wanted it to skip battleshout if I have it. |
| 15:14.03 | kenlyric | probably wouldn't work in combat even if there was a way. |
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| 15:18.49 | what-K | hi Shirik|zZz can u maybe help me ! |
| 15:18.52 | what-K | ? |
| 15:20.54 | kenlyric | damn, if I could macro heroic strike into this it would be awesome. |
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| 15:24.39 | deadlock | Hi all. I'm getting this error with reccomended zone. "Interface\Addons\FuBar_RecZOne\RecZone.lua:5: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library AceDB-2.0" does not exist." I didnt see any missing dependencies.. |
| 15:25.06 | CIA-8 | 03fenlis * r56512 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 15:25.06 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 15:25.06 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.21 | JoshBorke | deadlock: well, you don't have AceDB-2.0 loaded when the addon loads |
| 15:26.07 | deadlock | JoshBorke: Ok. How do i check that? |
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| 15:27.06 | Ellipsis | there is a typo in the toc |
| 15:27.26 | Ellipsis | it's loading libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDDB-2.0.lua |
| 15:28.42 | deadlock | Ellipsis: What should he read |
| 15:29.07 | deadlock | libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDDB-2.0.lua ----> libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua |
| 15:29.10 | deadlock | ? |
| 15:30.00 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 15:30.14 | deadlock | kk. Lets try it now :-). |
| 15:31.46 | deadlock | Do you guys know what the addon is called that adds the color of an item in your character profile, so u can just look at it and see how many blue/white/green items a character has. |
| 15:32.04 | Ellipsis | Fizzle does that |
| 15:32.12 | Kemayo | oGlow is among many of the addons that does that, I think. |
| 15:32.15 | nevcairiel | oGlow! |
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| 15:34.40 | Lukian | Fizzle! |
| 15:34.51 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56514 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 4 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: added option to change bar fade time, defaults to 0.5 |
| 15:34.58 | JoshBorke | btw, i fixed RecZone |
| 15:35.50 | Lukian | what's that? ::) |
| 15:36.00 | JoshBorke | a cookie? |
| 15:36.02 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56515 10LootSink/LootSink.toc: LootSink: TOC requires SavedVariables. |
| 15:36.06 | JoshBorke | it's usually a semi sweet food |
| 15:36.11 | JoshBorke | or very sweet food, depending |
| 15:36.13 | Lukian | reczone :p |
| 15:36.43 | SunTsu | Coming from Ellipsis this cookie may have poison on it or an aphrodesiac |
| 15:36.54 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 15:37.05 | Ellipsis | if you're not sure which, then I've done my job well |
| 15:37.07 | Chompers | or both |
| 15:37.07 | deadlock | ok reczone still agve me the error at startup |
| 15:37.09 | deadlock | >.< |
| 15:39.24 | deadlock | JoshBorke: Should i redownload reczone, since you fixed it? |
| 15:39.32 | JoshBorke | deadlock: i don't know fi it's updated on files |
| 15:39.49 | Ellipsis | should be in 5mins or so |
| 15:39.58 | JoshBorke | you pulled that number out of your ass Ellipsis |
| 15:40.04 | nevcairiel | actually |
| 15:40.07 | nevcairiel | its :40 now |
| 15:40.11 | nevcairiel | so it should be running |
| 15:40.15 | nevcairiel | give it one minute |
| 15:40.32 | deadlock | 2007-Dec-03 02:02:44 is what it shows. |
| 15:42.49 | Obelixprime | is it true that s2 arena weapons have the same cost as season 3? |
| 15:43.10 | Fisker- | you can't nevcairiel :( |
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| 15:43.31 | deadlock | hmm |
| 15:43.52 | deadlock | Same error even with the fix. |
| 15:43.57 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: i just did, so i can |
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| 15:45.32 | Fisker- | alright |
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| 15:46.31 | Lukian | What does ChannelSticky in Prat do? |
| 15:47.32 | deadlock | Ok...i went all the way back to FuBar_RecZone-r51977.zip. I'm stilling getting the "AceDB-2.0" does not exist. |
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| 15:47.41 | sylvaan_work | sets the sticky flag, gives you per-frame sticky, i think it has the group chat type too |
| 15:48.00 | Lukian | what's sticky though? |
| 15:48.34 | sylvaan_work | press enter, and the chat type is the last used sticky type |
| 15:48.40 | Lukian | oh! |
| 15:48.43 | Lukian | thanks :) |
| 15:49.01 | SunTsu | Ah, great, finally I know what to turn off ; Thanks from me, too ;) |
| 15:49.44 | Lukian | ok final question re: prat, can I change the background to solid black? |
| 15:50.07 | sylvaan_work | thats functionality in the chatframes alreday |
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| 15:50.19 | Lukian | link / script to do so? |
| 15:50.31 | Lukian | oh hfound it |
| 15:50.33 | Lukian | silly me |
| 15:50.45 | JoshBorke | did you exit wow? |
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| 15:51.46 | deadlock | Any ideas about rec zone? |
| 15:53.13 | Lukian | what's the easiest way to have one global chat configuration across all characters? |
| 15:53.40 | JoshBorke | deadlock: i can not reproduce teh error |
| 15:54.06 | deadlock | JoshBorke: How can i check to make sure the ace DB is there |
| 15:54.31 | Industrial | if dbreference then |
| 15:54.32 | Industrial | :D |
| 15:54.36 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 15:54.38 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 15:55.22 | CIA-8 | 03gamefaq * r56516 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-deDE.lua: Click2Cast-deDE: deDE Update |
| 15:55.50 | JoshBorke | deadlock: go to the reczone folder, go to libs, go to AceDB-2.0 |
| 15:56.20 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56517 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua: ag_UnitFrames: added missing locale entries |
| 15:56.53 | deadlock | JoshBorke: the folder has AceDB-2.0.lua and AceDB-2.0.toc |
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| 15:57.21 | JoshBorke | deadlock: did you exit wow completely? |
| 15:58.00 | deadlock | Yes I'll do it again. |
| 15:58.54 | |Pixel| | wow... not IRC |
| 15:58.58 | JoshBorke | i said wow...not irc... |
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| 15:59.37 | Adys | with a name like that what do you expect :P |
| 15:59.45 | JoshBorke | wb deadlock |
| 15:59.52 | deadlock | ty. That was weird... |
| 16:00.21 | deadlock | I restarted same error. |
| 16:00.21 | Lukian | deadlock: do you have a character named that? :D |
| 16:00.33 | deadlock | Lukian: No. |
| 16:00.41 | Lukian | 01111111111111111.0000000000000000000000] |
| 16:00.41 | JoshBorke | deadlock: something weird must be going on, check your FrameXML.log in the logs folder |
| 16:00.48 | Lukian | 666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666665555 |
| 16:00.53 | Lukian | ^ cat says hi |
| 16:02.28 | deadlock | hmm its still trying to load the DBB |
| 16:02.40 | deadlock | Error loading Interface\AddOns\FuBar_RecZone\libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDDB-2.0.lua |
| 16:04.02 | JoshBorke | sounds like your toc file isn't updated |
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| 16:04.47 | deadlock | i changed it again. let me try |
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| 16:06.32 | deadlock | All fixed..thanks. That's weird tho, cause I went back and grabbed and older version. How long has the type been active? |
| 16:07.24 | JoshBorke | 3 months? |
| 16:07.30 | Ellipsis | over a year |
| 16:07.30 | deadlock | ok. Wow. |
| 16:07.33 | Ellipsis | since it was first released |
| 16:07.43 | deadlock | And it hasnt been fixed? |
| 16:07.58 | Ellipsis | apparently nobody noticed it until now |
| 16:08.20 | deadlock | Wouldnt it have error on other ppl as well |
| 16:08.28 | Kemayo | No-ext is the prevaling mode of use. We just pretend otherwise when offering support. |
| 16:08.31 | Ellipsis | not as long as they had another addon using AceDB that loaded first |
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| 16:08.46 | Ellipsis | (remember kids, always read your FrameXML.log!) |
| 16:08.58 | deadlock | lol |
| 16:12.15 | deadlock | brb |
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| 16:24.29 | what-K | Shirikcan u help me please ?` |
| 16:25.16 | what-K | Shirik sry :D |
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| 16:28.53 | SunTsu | what-K: He could decide whether he can help you more easily if you ever told him what it is you need help with |
| 16:29.16 | what-K | i need help with his addon |
| 16:29.20 | SunTsu | what-K: And: maybe somebody else could help |
| 16:29.59 | what-K | i have an addon that told me when my shouts are fading but withe the new update i dont work anymore |
| 16:30.17 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6641 <- woha, got this today :-P |
| 16:32.26 | what-K | i get at this line an error |
| 16:32.27 | what-K | RaidWarningFrame:AddMessage("** "..spell.." ist ausgelaufen **"); |
| 16:32.41 | dylanm | what-K: I thought we talked about this. |
| 16:33.01 | what-K | yes and it dont work :( |
| 16:33.06 | dylanm | How. |
| 16:33.28 | dylanm | "It didn't work" doesn't really help one correct problems. |
| 16:33.40 | what-K | RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame, "** "..spell.." ist ausgelaufen |
| 16:34.37 | what-K | where can i post the addon maybe u can look at it |
| 16:35.54 | dylanm | That's not the full expression. |
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| 16:36.07 | [dRaCo] | ace.pastey.net |
| 16:36.08 | dylanm | And how does it fail? Surely there's an error message. |
| 16:37.22 | what-K | http://ace.pastey.net/78406 |
| 16:37.25 | what-K | thats the addon |
| 16:37.50 | what-K | and i get this error |
| 16:37.51 | what-K | Message: ..\AddOns\ShoutOut\ShoutOut.lua line 12: |
| 16:38.00 | what-K | attempt to call method 'AddMessage' (a nil value) |
| 16:38.11 | what-K | Debug: |
| 16:38.17 | what-K | [C]: AddMessage() |
| 16:38.21 | what-K | ShoutOut\ShoutOut.lua:12: |
| 16:38.26 | what-K | ShoutOut\ShoutOut.lua:7 |
| 16:38.29 | [dRaCo] | So there's no method called AddMessage. |
| 16:38.50 | dylanm | Not anymore. And we said to try changing it to |
| 16:39.30 | what-K | the addon has work vefore patch |
| 16:39.33 | what-K | before |
| 16:39.38 | what-K | so i need Shirik :D |
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| 16:39.51 | dylanm | RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame, "** "..spell.." ist ausgelaufen **", ChatTypeInfo["RAID_WARNING"]) |
| 16:40.20 | dylanm | It doesn't work because they changed what sort of frame pops up to show raid warnings. |
| 16:40.32 | dylanm | So you changed that line and it didn't work? What was the error then? |
| 16:41.34 | what-K | i now put this in line 12 |
| 16:41.34 | what-K | RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame, "** "..spell.." ist ausgelaufen **", ChatTypeInfo["RAID_WARNING"]) |
| 16:41.37 | what-K | ? |
| 16:41.45 | what-K | then i try it again mom |
| 16:42.56 | dylanm | I'm a proud mother apparently. I hope it works. It _should_ work. |
| 16:46.24 | what-K | dylanm thx it works :D |
| 16:46.46 | dylanm | Fantastico. |
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| 16:52.52 | CIA-8 | OptiTaunt: |
| 16:52.52 | CIA-8 | - added challenging shout/roar announces |
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| 16:57.53 | CIA-8 | 03gamefaq * r56522 10Bartender3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:57.53 | CIA-8 | Bartender3: - deDE Update |
| 16:57.53 | CIA-8 | - added 'Roll Bar and Special Bar Warning' translation strings to Bartender3-enUS.lua |
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| 17:02.19 | Poul|Raider | "i thought superraider was a fat dwarf pala:O?" i should report him for insult and harrassment |
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| 17:02.28 | Poul|Raider | im a NE rogue :( |
| 17:05.11 | thul | Poul|Raider:( |
| 17:05.17 | thul | what made you make _that_ choice :-( |
| 17:05.42 | Poul|Raider | ? |
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| 17:06.35 | thul | NE rogue :-( |
| 17:07.05 | Poul|Raider | NE RULES |
| 17:07.29 | Poul|Raider | oki dont realy remember, guess it just seamed like the best choise back in 2004 |
| 17:07.32 | Poul|Raider | or 5 |
| 17:07.50 | Poul|Raider | lol dont even remember how many years we played this game now |
| 17:08.13 | balstor | th code wowwebstats uses for parsing combat logs, now that is something that would be nice to find in my mailbox one day |
| 17:08.24 | thul | hehe |
| 17:08.34 | thul | i chose human paladin for me :-P |
| 17:08.50 | thul | the first one |
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| 17:11.37 | CIA-8 | 03speeddymon * r56523 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 17:11.37 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:11.37 | CIA-8 | - Re-add Ackis's fixes that were removed due to a conflict |
| 17:12.00 | Kalman| | If I want to use a protected function, but only ever out of combat, do I need to use the secure methods, or can I just use it? |
| 17:13.13 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56524 10PowerDisplay/ (pdMain.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: Simplified options |
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| 17:19.48 | Fisker- | !rating 1561 |
| 17:19.48 | Xinhuan | 1561 rating gives 415(5s), 365(3s) and 315(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 17:24.37 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r56525 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 17:24.37 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:24.37 | CIA-8 | - Fix bug with using a variable I shouldn't have been using |
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| 17:34.22 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r56526 10DotDotDot/ (Anchor.lua Core.lua): DotDotDot: - add locals(koKR) |
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| 17:39.58 | JoshBorke | morning kael |
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| 17:42.38 | Pkekyo| | what's the cost of starting a 3v3 team? |
| 17:42.51 | Gngsk | 150sh gold? |
| 17:43.07 | SunTsu | Isn't it 40g per player? |
| 17:43.26 | nevcairiel | 120 then |
| 17:43.34 | nevcairiel | but yeah i think it was 40 per player |
| 17:43.42 | Gngsk | sounds right |
| 17:43.48 | SunTsu | I think so, a 5vs5 team costs about 200g |
| 17:43.52 | Gngsk | cause I know it's 200 for 5v5 |
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| 17:46.54 | cncfanatics | hello folks |
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| 17:52.34 | kenlyric | neat, the optimized for voice setting got horked somewhere between itunes 7.4 and 7.5 |
| 17:52.57 | dylanm | Heya cnc |
| 17:52.59 | Ellipsis | that's what you get for using itunes! |
| 17:53.02 | Pkekyo| | For your viewing pleasure: |
| 17:53.02 | Pkekyo| | Lasse's Advent Calendar - Now available on youtube! |
| 17:53.02 | Pkekyo| | #1 - "Special Milkshake" http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5SriicEJbCY&feature=user |
| 17:53.02 | Pkekyo| | #2 - "Let's Do Some Coke!" http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bHm_pu-7d_g&feature=user |
| 17:53.02 | Pkekyo| | #3 - "Howto Eat an Orange" http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_0bejOo-PuU |
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| 18:02.33 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r56527 10AckisRecipeList/ (14 files): |
| 18:02.33 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:02.33 | CIA-8 | - Moved recipe data from main file into own sub-file |
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| 18:06.33 | balstor | anybody know of a patch to trinketmenu?? |
| 18:08.00 | alext | whats wrong with it? |
| 18:08.45 | balstor | try to resize it and the buttons don't get larger, and i'm not sure why (too lazy to dig through the code) |
| 18:08.51 | QuantumDelta | err |
| 18:08.55 | QuantumDelta | works fine here |
| 18:08.59 | QuantumDelta | latest revision |
| 18:09.30 | alext | ahh |
| 18:09.34 | alext | i havent resized mine in ages |
| 18:09.39 | QuantumDelta | it might be a bit funky about resizing in combat |
| 18:09.42 | alext | i will try it out next time i am on |
| 18:09.44 | QuantumDelta | but it resizes just fine oO |
| 18:09.54 | QuantumDelta | (*EnGB client) |
| 18:11.54 | balstor | i've tried it outside of combat and the buttons are stuck to the corners but they don't seem to get larger, i will try again here in 45 seconds |
| 18:12.17 | CIA-8 | 03whitetooth * r56528 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 18:12.17 | CIA-8 | RatingBuster: |
| 18:12.17 | CIA-8 | - Added checks so that it doesn't match percents(%) |
| 18:12.26 | balstor | got to get my ace updates for the day :) |
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| 18:22.24 | balstor | yhea trinketmenus resize logic is broken |
| 18:22.35 | QuantumDelta | that's really odd |
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| 18:23.47 | Fin | hmm |
| 18:24.35 | Fin | I seem to have managed to drag one of my minion's spells off of my pet bar with Bartender3 |
| 18:24.49 | Fin | does anyone know how to get it back? I tried resetting it, but it hasn't reappeared |
| 18:25.48 | sheppard | drag it back on? |
| 18:26.19 | Fin | from where? |
| 18:26.24 | kenlyric | hahaha |
| 18:26.30 | kenlyric | pet spellbook? |
| 18:26.38 | Fin | wwwwwwwwwwI didn't know there was one! |
| 18:26.41 | Fin | woops |
| 18:26.44 | Fin | -w |
| 18:27.00 | kenlyric | nobody ever does until they do that :) |
| 18:27.00 | Fin | thanks! |
| 18:27.38 | Fin | heh |
| 18:27.46 | Fin | ooh, and it's even the first key binding I tried :) |
| 18:28.00 | kenlyric | useful, because just dragging a spell off the bar doesn't turn it off. |
| 18:28.14 | Fin | right :) |
| 18:28.16 | kenlyric | that's how I discovered it, trying to test my pet without Bite |
| 18:28.31 | kenlyric | I was like "wtf, still biting!" |
| 18:28.55 | Fin | heh |
| 18:35.01 | Fisker- | ~seen Punkie`afk |
| 18:35.04 | purl | Fisker-: i haven't seen 'punkie`afk' |
| 18:35.13 | Fisker- | fuck you suck |
| 18:35.16 | Fisker- | he's in the channel right now |
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| 18:35.58 | Xyphor | ~seen Punkie |
| 18:36.00 | purl | punkie <n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 297d 4h 42m 6s ago, saying: 'cya later, got work to do :)'. |
| 18:36.18 | Xyphor | ~seen Punkie` |
| 18:36.19 | purl | punkie` <i=9266Punk@server1.bouncer4you.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 26d 6h 50m 38s ago, saying: 'p.s. joke'. |
| 18:39.42 | balstor | apparently if you play with resizing and right click the frame eventually it works, but it might not save between sessions |
| 18:42.26 | cncfanatics | balstor, yo :)Ă |
| 18:42.33 | balstor | hey hey |
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| 18:47.19 | NeoTron | Reliquary of Souls - fun for the whole family |
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| 18:53.28 | Hjalte | As a destruction lock with not all that much spell crit, 18%, is it beneficial to keep up Corruption and Immolate in a boss fight? |
| 18:56.05 | Kalman| | Hjalte - figure out if total damage per cast time for Corr/Immo is > damage per cast time for Shadowbolt, then fudge it a bit to account for ISB procs helping other shadow casters. |
| 18:56.31 | Ellipsis | if you don't have instant corr, it's almost certainly not with it |
| 18:56.36 | Ellipsis | s/with/worth/ |
| 18:56.46 | CIA-8 | 03gamefaq * r56531 10FuBar_HonorFu/FuBar_HonorFu.toc: FuBar_HonorFu: Changed File Format back to UTF-8 |
| 18:56.55 | Kalman| | Ellipsis: There's no DPS difference between instant Corr and 1.5 Corr. |
| 18:57.05 | Ellipsis | no, but there's DPSC difference |
| 18:57.08 | Kalman| | No. |
| 18:57.16 | Ellipsis | erm, well 1.5 |
| 18:57.19 | Kalman| | The only difference is casting on the run. |
| 18:57.23 | Ellipsis | what I meant was if he didn't talent it |
| 18:57.41 | Gagorian | corruption is not worth it |
| 18:59.13 | Kalman| | So, I'll try my question again, since people seem more awake: for protected functions, do I have to call them from a secure button even if they're only ever used out of combat? |
| 18:59.15 | Gagorian | Well, I guess kind of depends on your gear but high end destro should never use it |
| 18:59.20 | Kalman| | (Specifically, targeting.) |
| 18:59.30 | Kemayo | I recall that corruption's +dmg coefficient is weighted for being an instant, so it's less worthwhile if you've not spent the points. |
| 18:59.47 | kenlyric | corruption isn't worth it because it's an instant that requires five talent points to get. |
| 18:59.51 | Gagorian | corruption has the shittiest dot coefficient in the game |
| 19:00.01 | kenlyric | errr, what kemayo beat me to and said first. |
| 19:00.03 | Ellipsis | talenting it down to 1.5 is just as good as talenting it to instant for most situations |
| 19:00.11 | Gagorian | Not really |
| 19:00.15 | kenlyric | better to just not cast it. |
| 19:00.16 | Gagorian | Destro locks have haste |
| 19:00.23 | Gagorian | so, that has an effect on corruption |
| 19:00.30 | Gagorian | so talenting isn't worth it even |
| 19:00.35 | Ellipsis | I'm guessing Hjalte doesn't have a ton of haste if he's at 18% crit as destro... |
| 19:00.39 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r56532 10TankPoints/TankPointsCalculator.lua: |
| 19:00.39 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 19:00.39 | CIA-8 | - Calculator fixed |
| 19:00.40 | Kalman| | Not enough haste to get it down to a 1.5 cast, either. |
| 19:01.01 | Gagorian | Yes but you don't want to miss out on DS or 1 point SnF |
| 19:01.06 | Gagorian | so, no talents there |
| 19:01.10 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Exactly :) |
| 19:01.29 | Ellipsis | his question was specifically for weaker gear |
| 19:01.57 | Gagorian | Well it also depends on spelldamage etc. |
| 19:02.04 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 19:02.08 | Gagorian | Best you can do is download DrDamage |
| 19:02.09 | Ellipsis | easiest to just run the numbers if you're not sure |
| 19:02.28 | Gagorian | Then you put in simulated effects of CoS, Misery, Shadow Vulnerability, Improved Shadow bolt |
| 19:02.39 | Gagorian | And DS |
| 19:03.01 | Gagorian | doing /script DrDamage.globalMod = 1.1*1.05*1.1*1.1*1.15 |
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| 19:05.46 | Gagorian | Then you compare corruption's DPSC with shadow bolts DPS and see |
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| 19:06.07 | Hjalte | Gagorian, I've got DrDamage, It's really nice. Can I compare them without doing the script? |
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| 19:06.27 | Gagorian | Yes but then you don't get raid effects unless you target a mob with those debuffs |
| 19:06.35 | Kalman| | Don't see why you need those effects. |
| 19:06.35 | Hjalte | Hmm, I'll do it in a raid. |
| 19:06.41 | Kalman| | Percentage effects aren't going to change which one is better. |
| 19:06.56 | Adirelle_ | I remember of a talk about a keylogger that prevented bindings to be saved |
| 19:07.02 | Gagorian | Of course not but it gives more valid data |
| 19:07.06 | Adirelle_ | does anyone have a link about this ? |
| 19:07.15 | Kalman| | The answer is binary, how do you get a more valid binary answer? |
| 19:07.29 | Gagorian | DPS comparisons? |
| 19:07.30 | Hjalte | But as long as Corruption is higher than Shadow bolt, it's worth casting? (When thinking about it not keeping up ISB etc.) |
| 19:07.39 | Hjalte | higher* number from drdamage |
| 19:07.40 | Kalman| | If yes pre-debuff, yes post-debuff, for all possible circumstances, assuming percentage modifiers only. |
| 19:07.56 | Kalman| | He's not asking about what his DPS from it will be, he's asking if DPS(A) > DPS(B). |
| 19:08.26 | Gagorian | I know what he's asking, but there's a difference between 100 DPS difference and 150 DPS difference |
| 19:08.34 | Gagorian | I'm just saying there's an option to do it |
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| 19:08.49 | Kalman| | And I'm just saying you're needlessly complicating the answer to his question. |
| 19:09.15 | Kalman| | And that I can't figure out a way to iterate through my raid targeting each person in turn with a single button press, out of combat, and it depresses me. :( |
| 19:09.17 | Gagorian | So? I think it's interesting. |
| 19:09.33 | Gagorian | If he doesn't he doesn't need to do it. |
| 19:10.04 | Gagorian | Hjalte: Well if the difference is minimal, then it's probably not worth casting |
| 19:10.17 | Gagorian | Since it's harder to keep a non-instant corruption up with no resist pushback talents |
| 19:10.38 | Hjalte | Not targeting anything, shadow bolt is 1905 - corruption is 2116. It's probably not worth it, no. |
| 19:10.56 | Gagorian | Also, it's theoretically hard to model improved shadowbolt into that |
| 19:11.00 | Gagorian | Total damage? |
| 19:11.07 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56533 10FuBar_KungFu/ (.wau KungFu.lua): |
| 19:11.08 | CIA-8 | FuBar_KungFu: |
| 19:11.08 | CIA-8 | -Random optimizing; generate less garbage. |
| 19:12.08 | Hjalte | Umm, the default number from drdamage. |
| 19:12.12 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r56534 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0: deDE update by Gamefaq. |
| 19:12.17 | Hjalte | I believe, can't see tooltip atm :) |
| 19:12.38 | Hjalte | I'm quite sure i set everything to show total damage |
| 19:12.50 | Gagorian | Hjalte: Well a more useful comparison would be DPSC in this case |
| 19:12.54 | Gagorian | Damage per seconds casted |
| 19:13.13 | Gagorian | See from the tooltips or just put that on as AB text |
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| 19:27.43 | NeoTron | Phase 2 EoS is rough - we run out of mana |
| 19:27.52 | NeoTron | I wonder if we didn't get Deaden up sufficiently. |
| 19:28.33 | Matrix110 | or the mages didnt steal the shield |
| 19:28.51 | NeoTron | pretty sure they did |
| 19:29.21 | NeoTron | really hard to know though |
| 19:29.56 | Matrix110 | though Deaden and Shield on a mage might be bad sometimes:P |
| 19:29.59 | NeoTron | EoS is finally a challenging fight however |
| 19:30.20 | Matrix110 | EoS is not that hard tbh |
| 19:30.52 | NeoTron | feh |
| 19:30.53 | NeoTron | it is |
| 19:31.08 | NeoTron | it's not super hard, we got down to like 5% of desire on our first night |
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| 19:31.45 | NeoTron | basicall yI think it's primarily a matter of taking the shield off and getting deaden reflected correctly |
| 19:31.51 | NeoTron | and not pulling aggro |
| 19:32.09 | Matrix110 | and kicking the shock |
| 19:32.15 | Matrix110 | shock not kicked=over pretty much |
| 19:32.59 | Matrix110 | but Illidari Council is more annoying than RoS |
| 19:33.09 | Matrix110 | the fight is so long and to much can go wrong |
| 19:33.11 | NeoTron | well yeah |
| 19:33.13 | NeoTron | but that's handled |
| 19:33.17 | NeoTron | as long as the shield isn't up |
| 19:33.24 | NeoTron | once we realized CoT works it became cake |
| 19:34.05 | Matrix110 | i once tried smth funny @RoS |
| 19:34.15 | Matrix110 | stealing shield+BWL mage trinket |
| 19:34.24 | Matrix110 | +Quagmirrans Eye proc |
| 19:34.31 | Matrix110 | the Arcane Missles are funny:P |
| 19:34.37 | Matrix110 | but you are oom so damn fast |
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| 19:35.09 | Matrix110 | but well Zul Aman fire mage buff is the best |
| 19:35.16 | Matrix110 | that+BWL mage trinket is so rofl |
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| 19:46.18 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56535 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/WorldPvP.tw.lua: |
| 19:46.18 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 19:46.18 | CIA-8 | - Update zhTW translation. |
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| 19:56.59 | DST_Rafnoux | hi |
| 19:57.29 | DST_Rafnoux | i found a bug in a library (LibBabbleZone-3.0) |
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| 19:58.07 | DST_Rafnoux | I corrected it but i don't know how to upload my "patch" |
| 19:58.34 | Kalman| | DST_Rafnoux: Look up the library maintainer and get in touch with them is always a good bet. |
| 19:59.17 | DST_Rafnoux | what's the link ? |
| 20:02.01 | JoshBorke | www.wowace.com/forums, try looking there |
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| 20:11.00 | mort | !points 470 |
| 20:11.01 | Xinhuan | 470 arena points require 1604(5s), 1651(3s) and 1708(2s) team rating. |
| 20:11.26 | mort | !points 454 |
| 20:11.27 | Xinhuan | 454 arena points require 1592(5s), 1638(3s) and 1694(2s) team rating. |
| 20:11.37 | JoshBorke | !points 3000 |
| 20:11.37 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 20:11.47 | JoshBorke | !points 1 |
| 20:11.47 | Xinhuan | 1 arena points require -59(5s), -58(3s) and -57(2s) team rating. |
| 20:13.32 | Ozguli | ee |
| 20:13.40 | Ozguli | !rating 800 |
| 20:13.41 | Xinhuan | 800 rating gives 190(5s), 167(3s) and 144(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 20:13.55 | Ozguli | I wonder if someone has that bad rating |
| 20:14.39 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56536 10PowerDisplay/ (pdMain.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: dynamic options |
| 20:17.32 | Cheads | hmm ACP, when I disable an addon (by using ACP), the addon is disabled on all my characters on that realm. Is it supposed to work like that? I thought it was supposed to be per character. |
| 20:19.47 | sylvanaar | anyone know some 2.3 patch mirrors |
| 20:20.19 | Gagorian | Is the author of Wardrobe here? |
| 20:20.48 | sylvanaar | oh nm, its on wowwiki |
| 20:23.25 | Hjalte | Will Fire shield break Phase shift? |
| 20:23.57 | Kalman| | Ozguli: Not yet, but give them time, tank teams who are trying to determine bottom of bracket will hit 800. |
| 20:24.14 | Cheads | Hjalte yes |
| 20:24.30 | Cheads | it cannot cast it while phase shifted |
| 20:24.50 | Ozguli | I don't like it when the things nuke me for imba dmg and aren't pvp enabled |
| 20:24.52 | Hjalte | Meh :( |
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| 20:31.13 | JoshBorke | Kalman|: what do you mean by tank teams? |
| 20:31.32 | Kalman| | Teams intentionally losing to lower their rating. |
| 20:31.39 | Kalman| | Tanking rating. |
| 20:31.51 | JoshBorke | to what end though? |
| 20:32.02 | Kalman| | People do it to determine the size of the bracket so they know where Gladiator titles will fall. |
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| 20:33.32 | JoshBorke | i see |
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| 20:58.40 | RaydenUni | BM is one of the hardest heroics? |
| 20:58.51 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 21:00.05 | nevcairiel | you think so? |
| 21:00.06 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 21:00.12 | nevcairiel | guess we're over geared |
| 21:00.57 | Kalman| | BM is really, really easy, once you hit the minimum DPS threshold. |
| 21:01.01 | Kalman| | And/or if you bring a prot paladin. |
| 21:02.27 | Ozguli | heard some of the adds require offtank |
| 21:03.25 | [Ammo] | in black morass? no |
| 21:03.27 | [Ammo] | pew pew |
| 21:03.31 | [Ammo] | with a prot pala |
| 21:04.20 | NivFreak | how much more health do the adds have? |
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| 21:05.42 | Toadkiller | So like will there be an Ace3 Locale lib? |
| 21:05.43 | xyu` | heroic bm is pretty easy now if dps is good |
| 21:06.11 | RaydenUni | xyu` the question is not whether BM is easy or hard, but if it is easier or harder than other heroics |
| 21:07.06 | Toadkiller | I think its one of the harder ones simply because the timers can hose you |
| 21:07.07 | Hjalte | Sigh, my guild makes my use imp on the "hard" bosses of ZA when i'm destru specced :( |
| 21:07.10 | xyu` | Hmm, i'd say it's just a tad above average. |
| 21:08.09 | Toadkiller | Its nice & fast when everything works, but when you get a 5 minute lag & then 6 gates spawn super fast its just the suck |
| 21:08.18 | Ozguli | is 10k honor/day without bg weekend good? |
| 21:08.32 | xyu` | yes |
| 21:08.35 | Mudkipz | i can only gain that if i play all day |
| 21:08.43 | RaydenUni | i made about 4000 one day |
| 21:08.47 | Mudkipz | that's pretty hardcore for me |
| 21:08.58 | xyu` | I miss instant queues |
| 21:09.01 | Ozguli | got that by farming av last saturday |
| 21:09.04 | Mudkipz | as in 1 afternoon to near midnight |
| 21:09.19 | Mudkipz | too much for my bum |
| 21:09.25 | Toadkiller | Mmm we were doing about 300k - 500k a week during the old high warlord grind... |
| 21:09.27 | Mudkipz | which means I need a new chair |
| 21:09.50 | xyu` | we were at about that |
| 21:09.56 | xyu` | 400-600 was our limit i think |
| 21:10.08 | xyu` | if someone broke that rule they were removed from future invites |
| 21:10.26 | Toadkiller | Yeah getting over 300k required 7 days a week of 12 hours + |
| 21:10.46 | xyu` | it was a pain serious. Ly |
| 21:11.08 | Ozguli | eek... |
| 21:11.21 | Toadkiller | Av is about 500 a win so if u can get a big chunk of premade in there its quite good except for the slow q times |
| 21:11.21 | Ozguli | how to get 365+ tailoring easily? |
| 21:11.31 | Ozguli | or 370+ |
| 21:11.32 | xyu` | arcanoweave boots i think |
| 21:11.35 | xyu` | is what i did |
| 21:11.45 | Matrix110 | imbued blabla chest thingy |
| 21:11.46 | Ozguli | aww. dungeons. |
| 21:11.51 | kenlyric | you need the patterns from arc, whichever those are. |
| 21:12.53 | Ozguli | what's the lvl for tailoring specialsation, 350? |
| 21:13.07 | xyu` | yes |
| 21:13.11 | Ozguli | or crafting the special cloth overall, same? |
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| 21:13.23 | Ozguli | have to start farming mats for my priest |
| 21:13.36 | kenlyric | imbued blahblah is yellow at 365 (or 370) |
| 21:13.46 | JoshBorke | 365 |
| 21:13.50 | kenlyric | I made four of those fuckers for the last point. |
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| 21:14.11 | NivFreak | does anyone know how much armor shade of aran has? |
| 21:14.15 | kenlyric | got a 1-for-1 on every other point, so I guess it balanced. |
| 21:14.16 | Ozguli | at least tailoring is easy |
| 21:14.24 | RaydenUni | for what Ozguli ? |
| 21:14.28 | Ozguli | you don't need 600g mats to get one skill point :P |
| 21:14.38 | Ozguli | like enchanters or jevelcrafters |
| 21:14.45 | RaydenUni | the last 5-10 points are really expensive |
| 21:14.50 | RaydenUni | you need so much netherweave |
| 21:14.51 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 21:14.57 | kenlyric | it's not 600g though. |
| 21:15.04 | RaydenUni | my guild would send me like 10 stacks of netherweave and it would be enough for 1 level |
| 21:15.08 | kenlyric | but the thing with enchanters/jewelcrafters is that they can skill up on stuff people need. |
| 21:15.16 | kenlyric | that's like 20g. |
| 21:15.27 | RaydenUni | no one needs anything from tailors except high end stuff |
| 21:15.30 | kenlyric | unless you leveled tailoringa t release. |
| 21:15.33 | kenlyric | then, I'm so sorry. |
| 21:15.36 | Ozguli | mm... |
| 21:15.40 | kenlyric | nobody needs anything from tailors fullstop |
| 21:15.41 | xyu` | also, MOST peole know a tailor somewhere |
| 21:15.45 | xyu` | that will make them stuff free |
| 21:16.19 | kenlyric | tailoring is cheap the last 25 points (relatively) but all you do is make stuff you'll vendor/sell below matt cost/disenchant. |
| 21:16.23 | xyu` | i dont know anyone who buys those battlecast stuff that every tailor spams in the hopes of some sap will buy it :P |
| 21:16.32 | RaydenUni | tailoring was certainly worth it for FSW |
| 21:16.35 | kenlyric | enchanters get their last few points enchanting stuff for other people. |
| 21:16.49 | Ozguli | damn this lag |
| 21:17.01 | Ozguli | my priest'll be a healbot |
| 21:17.10 | Ozguli | so mooncloth will be the way to go |
| 21:17.21 | RaydenUni | mooncloth is cheap on my server |
| 21:17.33 | RaydenUni | spellcloth > shadow > moon |
| 21:18.02 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: tailoring is cheap the last 25? O.O |
| 21:18.07 | kenlyric | relatively |
| 21:18.18 | kenlyric | the last 10 points were maybe 100g in mats. |
| 21:18.35 | JoshBorke | seriously? i wasn't able to do it that cheap until i got the arcanoweave stuff |
| 21:18.38 | kenlyric | compare with the last 10 points in enchanting. |
| 21:19.04 | kenlyric | were you working from the early TBC market? |
| 21:19.15 | kenlyric | before netherweave took a dive? |
| 21:19.31 | JoshBorke | erm, maybe... |
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| 21:20.25 | kenlyric | it was a pretty huge price dropoff right around the time I decided to go tailoring. at least 1/3 price per stack. |
| 21:22.29 | kenlyric | I think the fact that I'm at 365 enchanting and 375 tailoring is testament to the fact that tailoring is massively cheaper to self-level. |
| 21:22.40 | kenlyric | anyone need spell damage to gloves? free with your mats! |
| 21:22.51 | jeramy | i powerlevelled leatherworking on my elemental shamn |
| 21:23.04 | jeramy | i have enough roast clefthoof to supply my guilds fury warriors forever |
| 21:23.07 | kenlyric | i've been thinking about it for my hunter. |
| 21:23.24 | kenlyric | 40ap food? |
| 21:23.45 | jeramy | the problem with enchanting is that it not sellable, its a service, that and the mats get retarded |
| 21:24.01 | kenlyric | right, but at least people want them. |
| 21:24.06 | jeramy | enchants should make enchant items, (like armor kits) |
| 21:24.14 | jeramy | that way you can buy the enchant you want off the AH |
| 21:24.16 | kenlyric | you make 5 imbued netherweave robes and you get to have someone disenchant them. |
| 21:24.28 | jeramy | and also prevent server oligopolies |
| 21:24.33 | kenlyric | you can mostly get other people to fund your enchanting skillups |
| 21:24.50 | jeramy | typically, a server winds up with 3-5 high profile enchanters who get bugged to death |
| 21:25.18 | jeramy | if you were able to sell enchants as tokens on the AH, the price for enchants would also go down since it would introduce more competition |
| 21:25.36 | NeoTron | on that note, it was quite a revelation to start buying adamantite ore and prospecting, selling the gems |
| 21:25.44 | jeramy | the mats are just retarded though, my fury warrior only had high mats enchants for his weapons |
| 21:25.45 | NeoTron | some green gems sell for over 2g |
| 21:25.50 | NeoTron | blues ebtween 18 and 60g |
| 21:25.56 | jeramy | on my caster, almost every other enchant requires buckets of primals |
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| 21:26.20 | jeramy | compare spell dmg to bracers to brawn to bracers |
| 21:26.33 | jeramy | or spell hit or dmg to gloves to major str to gloves |
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| 21:26.40 | NivFreak | compare it to my +12 stam |
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| 21:27.04 | jeramy | it seems like mats for enchants werent done on a scale |
| 21:27.19 | NeoTron | difference with enchanting is that you actually CAN make enchnats for people while leveling if you're not in a hurry |
| 21:27.31 | NeoTron | for tailoring you make crap that you typically just DE |
| 21:27.35 | kenlyric | how much can you look to spend leveling JC to the level needed to prospect adamantite? |
| 21:27.47 | NeoTron | JC is, or was at least, helluva expensive |
| 21:27.51 | jeramy | mind you, those negatives are weighed against the pros somewhat |
| 21:27.55 | NeoTron | think about 1200g to get it to 300 |
| 21:28.02 | NivFreak | JC is a waste |
| 21:28.03 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:28.08 | RaydenUni | i have tailoring so i can wear my armor, but i picked up mining because crafting is annoying |
| 21:28.11 | NeoTron | well |
| 21:28.20 | NeoTron | with prospecting adamantite, I am not so sure |
| 21:28.23 | jeramy | enchanting/leatherworking are complimentary in a way that gathering/crafting professions arent |
| 21:28.25 | kenlyric | NivFreak: but it's an endless cash cow once you hit 300 :) |
| 21:28.26 | NivFreak | find guild JCer |
| 21:28.28 | NivFreak | send him ore |
| 21:28.29 | NivFreak | profit |
| 21:28.31 | NeoTron | ah |
| 21:28.34 | NeoTron | but it's a lot more work |
| 21:28.35 | jeramy | and you get unique buffs from enchanting |
| 21:28.42 | NeoTron | and I think I prospected maybe 600 ore the first day |
| 21:28.52 | NeoTron | plus cutting of a significant number of gems |
| 21:29.07 | kenlyric | oh you have to cut them to make money? |
| 21:29.11 | NivFreak | no |
| 21:29.12 | kenlyric | nuts to that! |
| 21:29.24 | NivFreak | people will bring you thier gems for cuts |
| 21:29.29 | NivFreak | and you can charge 5-10G each |
| 21:29.36 | kenlyric | not at 300. |
| 21:29.41 | NeoTron | you maek more money if you cut them |
| 21:29.43 | NivFreak | well sure |
| 21:29.49 | NivFreak | but once again |
| 21:29.51 | NeoTron | raw gems almost always sell for 5-10g less |
| 21:29.51 | NivFreak | send them to a guildie |
| 21:29.52 | kenlyric | I'm just looking to transition my hunter professions now that he is sedinatary. |
| 21:29.53 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:29.53 | aestil_ | is hitsmode somehow better than SCL? |
| 21:30.00 | Matrix110 | doesnt matter |
| 21:30.03 | NeoTron | and again, that guildie will strangle you before too soon |
| 21:30.04 | NivFreak | NeoTron: if you're smart ;) |
| 21:30.06 | Matrix110 | they are all fucked in 2.4 anyway:P |
| 21:30.24 | NeoTron | I think I had close to 200 auctions before I slowed down a bit |
| 21:30.27 | NivFreak | on my server, star of elune is more expensive than every other cut gem, but solids |
| 21:30.31 | aestil_ | *shrugs* the'll be unnecsary, its not like they suck. |
| 21:30.49 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I always make solid start of elunes |
| 21:30.55 | Matrix110 | well i just said keep the one you use atm |
| 21:31.02 | Matrix110 | and start careing after 2.4:P |
| 21:31.07 | NeoTron | and teardrop living ruby (runed living ruby might seme 'more popular'... but there's a lot more of them on the AH) |
| 21:31.29 | NivFreak | yea |
| 21:31.34 | NivFreak | just gotta be smart |
| 21:31.41 | NeoTron | I'm still new to it all |
| 21:31.58 | Gagorian | What's the difference between ClosetGnome and Wardrobe2? Can ClosetGnome change items in proper order so the same unique-equipped gems for instance work? |
| 21:32.01 | NeoTron | I think I will stop cutting some gems that sell for 50-75s and concentrate on the ones that sell for >2g (out of the grens) |
| 21:32.36 | NivFreak | I have stacks and stacks of green gems |
| 21:32.40 | aestil_ | i just hope there is a new wws after 2.4 |
| 21:32.46 | NivFreak | I just save them for transmuting metas |
| 21:32.49 | aestil_ | wtf, why is there an underscore after my name? |
| 21:33.31 | NeoTron | NivFreak: oh I should start doing that too |
| 21:33.36 | RaydenUni | when you got disconnected and reconnected your name was taken |
| 21:33.49 | Kemayo | aestil_: From the nick collision message, I believe you have realised the answer to your question. |
| 21:34.04 | aestil | foolish IRC |
| 21:34.12 | aestil | i am the only aestil. |
| 21:34.20 | NeoTron | I hope 2.4 will add the ability to properly track lifebloom and such heals |
| 21:34.22 | NeoTron | PoM.. |
| 21:34.35 | RaydenUni | how so? |
| 21:36.46 | kenlyric | by "properly tracking them"? |
| 21:36.46 | Kemayo | RaydenUni: Currently such heals are attributed to the person they're healing because they're being healed by a buff placed on them. Hopefully under the new event regime more information will be available. |
| 21:36.46 | Kemayo | I.e. who cast the HoT. |
| 21:36.48 | kenlyric | Kemayo: I hope not. |
| 21:36.49 | aestil | you'd think with the GUID's it'd be possible. |
| 21:37.03 | kenlyric | because right now I claim all healing done by non-healers :) |
| 21:37.11 | kenlyric | potions and healthstones OH MY |
| 21:37.16 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 21:37.23 | aestil | i dont' kmnow if wws is accurate, it says that my wife casts PoM 2x - 4x as much as the other healing priests and heals as much as them directly. |
| 21:37.44 | NivFreak | they are making some attempts to track it |
| 21:37.46 | NivFreak | but failing |
| 21:37.47 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:37.57 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i do the same thing with the MT's healing ("oh, it's all just earth shield ;p) |
| 21:38.12 | aestil | chain heal is so broken. |
| 21:38.14 | aestil | i don't understand it. |
| 21:38.19 | NivFreak | chain heal is hax |
| 21:38.23 | NightHawkTheSane | chain heal is pure sex in heal form |
| 21:38.36 | aestil | its like they designed the whole game, so that shamans can be OP as healers. |
| 21:38.40 | aestil | its rediculous. |
| 21:38.42 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:38.51 | NivFreak | In ZA |
| 21:38.57 | NivFreak | we have our shaman just spam chain heal |
| 21:39.00 | NivFreak | and he comes out #1 healing |
| 21:39.01 | aestil | 'hey lets put a bunch of random AoE dmg in so that shaman healers can push 1 button mindlessly without thinking and be full of win' |
| 21:39.04 | NivFreak | with the least overheal |
| 21:39.05 | aestil | 'OK!' |
| 21:39.05 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:39.37 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: because most healers don't just spam one or two buttons mindlessly anyway? |
| 21:40.00 | sb | *sigh* |
| 21:40.00 | sb | archimonde sucks |
| 21:40.13 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: right, lets compare the selection of differnt ranks of Gheal, Fheal, renew, shield and PoM to the rediculous overpoweredness of Chain heal. |
| 21:40.14 | sb | if you have some "pew,pew, must heal/dps!!!" ppl :/ |
| 21:40.31 | aestil | sb: we have our first full night on him tonight. |
| 21:40.41 | sb | our first night was ~25% |
| 21:40.47 | sb | today is like >60% |
| 21:40.52 | buu | aestil: Life sucks. |
| 21:40.53 | aestil | he's so easy, and rediulously stupid hard at the same time. |
| 21:40.56 | sb | yes... |
| 21:41.03 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: except saying that all I have to do is cast chain heal is about as accurate as saying priests just spam flash heal |
| 21:41.34 | RaydenUni | might be more like PoH |
| 21:41.56 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, same difference, the point is, it's a terrible generalization to make. :P |
| 21:42.00 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: yes, lesser healing waves, and totems. yes. but when we look at what heals the most, by far its Chain heal, and it did incredibly low overheal. |
| 21:42.18 | RaydenUni | why does chain heal do such low overheal? |
| 21:42.24 | RaydenUni | does it jump intelligently? |
| 21:42.25 | aestil | what other heal targets near by peop |
| 21:42.26 | NightHawkTheSane | because it intelligently targets |
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| 21:42.28 | aestil | yes. |
| 21:42.30 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 21:42.35 | aestil | thats the only thing thats broken about it. |
| 21:42.37 | RaydenUni | i want PoM to be itelligent |
| 21:42.39 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't heal people who don't need healing |
| 21:42.41 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: i don't care about its multiple healing. |
| 21:42.48 | aestil | its that its too smart. |
| 21:43.04 | kenlyric | it's harder for PoM to be smart. |
| 21:43.08 | aestil | bbl guys. i <3 elemental shaman btw. |
| 21:43.13 | aestil | and enhancment ones |
| 21:43.16 | aestil | and resto ones. |
| 21:43.18 | aestil | i love shaman. |
| 21:43.19 | RaydenUni | you could look at who has been attacked in the last 2 seconds |
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| 21:43.22 | kenlyric | and tbh, PoM IS smart in tthe same way that chain heal is. |
| 21:43.22 | RaydenUni | although that is harder |
| 21:43.26 | RaydenUni | it is? |
| 21:43.29 | aestil | i just wish other healing classes with group heals had a similar heal. |
| 21:43.30 | RaydenUni | i thought PoM was random |
| 21:43.32 | kenlyric | it's just not as useful for PoM |
| 21:43.34 | kenlyric | no |
| 21:43.34 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: it's more than totemsn and LHW, hell i hardly use LHW, actually. totems, earth shield, drums (for me at least) healing wave for more direct/big heals when CH wont work, and chain heal when it's applicable |
| 21:43.40 | Orionshock | lolz |
| 21:43.48 | NivFreak | PoM seems to be slightly intelligent |
| 21:43.51 | kenlyric | it jumps to someone who needs healing. |
| 21:43.57 | NeoTron | before Chain Heal was made "smart" it was pretty much useless |
| 21:43.59 | RaydenUni | it always seems to jump to the warlock |
| 21:44.00 | NeoTron | so it's a good thing it's smart |
| 21:44.04 | JoshBorke | CH and PoM are both "smart" |
| 21:44.05 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: exactly |
| 21:44.06 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: thats because warlocks lifetap :P |
| 21:44.17 | kenlyric | or fucking hunter pets |
| 21:44.20 | JoshBorke | PoM jumps to the lowest health person within 20 yards |
| 21:44.21 | RaydenUni | at least now they can trigger it |
| 21:44.32 | Orionshock | narg drumed up "ConfigWraper" fror Ace3, now it's got it's RockConfig Twin |
| 21:44.34 | buu | Life tap needs to trigger pom |
| 21:44.36 | buu | For the love of jesus. |
| 21:44.40 | kenlyric | agreed |
| 21:44.41 | NeoTron | yes, it should |
| 21:44.44 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: well, chain heal was always "smart" in that it wouldn't heal a target who didn't need it, but it didn't used to jump outside the party if you targetted someone inside your own party |
| 21:44.54 | kenlyric | when I get PoM i'm like "woot, free SW:D!" |
| 21:45.00 | NeoTron | Chain Heal got smarter in terms of who it healed |
| 21:45.05 | thul | hmm |
| 21:45.06 | kenlyric | and after 2.3 it might actually do some damage |
| 21:45.08 | thul | any favourite lvling guides? :-P |
| 21:45.32 | NeoTron | thul: easy: 1) get quests, 2) kill stuff, 3) turn quests in and get more. 3) goto 2 |
| 21:45.36 | NightHawkTheSane | thul: do quests, kill stuff. |
| 21:45.37 | kenlyric | PoM would be fairly overpowered if you could guarantee it hits five people every time. |
| 21:45.51 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: how much mana does max rank pom cost? |
| 21:45.54 | Kemayo | Orionshock: It's nicely minimalistic in its requirements. |
| 21:46.17 | kenlyric | 390 mana if you don't have any talents. |
| 21:46.27 | NightHawkTheSane | that's not too bad at all |
| 21:46.32 | kenlyric | so, 351 |
| 21:46.35 | thul | hehe |
| 21:46.40 | thul | http://www.wow-pro.com/leveling_guides/james_horde_leveling_guide_chapter_i <- think I'll go with that |
| 21:46.41 | Orionshock | didn't say it was bad. IMO it's funny that we have a twin now |
| 21:46.48 | kenlyric | and then if you have the PoM mana reduction talent take off another 20% |
| 21:46.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, if that was guaranteed to heal all 5 targets before it expired, it'd be more op than CH |
| 21:46.54 | Gagorian | Is there any addon just do display simple school lock duration after CS or somesuch? |
| 21:47.19 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: back when I did math on it, it became the most efficient heal in the game with 3 triggers. |
| 21:47.23 | NightHawkTheSane | CH is a 2.5s cast that costs >500 mana at max rank, although a lot of people downrank to r4, which is 418 |
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| 21:48.11 | NeoTron | thul: remember that 20-60 levelling is a lot faster now too |
| 21:48.12 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: wow, nice. i guess the real trick is ensuring it gets 3 triggers ;) |
| 21:48.13 | Kemayo | Orionshock: I just wish the hilight on the acegui buttons didn't look like ass. |
| 21:48.23 | Kemayo | (Okay, it's not really awful. It just bugs me.) |
| 21:48.24 | NeoTron | so most grinding probably wouldn't be needed and quests might turn green |
| 21:48.27 | kenlyric | all priest heals are UBER if they proc on everybody properly. |
| 21:48.54 | NeoTron | the main benefit of PoM though, is MT threat generation |
| 21:48.55 | kenlyric | CoH, PoM, PoM. EVEN HOLY NOVA! |
| 21:49.02 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 21:49.02 | NightHawkTheSane | it might be a nice change if pom would pop a heal on the person if the buff faded while on them without triggering |
| 21:49.22 | kenlyric | yes, heal but don't bounce |
| 21:49.28 | sb | CoH <3 <3 |
| 21:49.29 | kenlyric | that wouldn't be very OP |
| 21:49.45 | NeoTron | how often doe the damage aura triger on Essence of Anger? |
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| 21:50.07 | Ditrih_SKOT | hello, im a noob :) |
| 21:50.07 | kenlyric | that's not a question I can answer :) |
| 21:50.55 | thul | just got a very nice MH for my lvl 21 warrior :-P so I'm happy heroic striking whatever i see:p |
| 21:51.27 | NeoTron | Figure PoM might be pretty nice since everyone in the raid will take damage on a regular basis |
| 21:51.30 | RaydenUni | but he is honest |
| 21:51.36 | Ditrih_SKOT | I download Ace2 lib, Fu_bar and Fu_Xperl but XperL do not work! Plz help me :) |
| 21:51.50 | Ditrih_SKOT | srs |
| 21:52.18 | kenlyric | oh. |
| 21:52.21 | kenlyric | he said srs |
| 21:52.35 | kenlyric | that's like this century's hitler |
| 21:52.53 | Ditrih_SKOT | its noob quation? |
| 21:53.26 | kenlyric | NeoTron: it's usually always pretty nice. |
| 21:53.47 | Ditrih_SKOT | i need help, now 1.52 after midnight and its not joke to me |
| 21:53.47 | kenlyric | more efficient than a flash a heal and 0 threat. |
| 21:54.40 | thul | is it worth it to lvl BS and Mining? |
| 21:54.50 | Kemayo | Ditrih_SKOT: Describe what you mean by "XperL do not work" and people might be able to provide assistance. |
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| 21:56.36 | Ditrih_SKOT | i find,its dependency missing, sry |
| 21:57.03 | Ditrih_SKOT | Ace2 -> all libs -> fubar ->fubar_Xperl |
| 21:58.25 | dylanm | Xperl doesn't really need any of that |
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| 21:59.38 | dylanm | I mean I know it puts some of the minimap stuff on the fubar but um |
| 22:02.27 | Khreasilya | may be a stupid question. but did you download xperl as well, and not just the plugin for fubar? :) |
| 22:02.30 | Ditrih_SKOT | ok, new quation :) Can i get FuBar 3.0 ot its version fake? |
| 22:03.41 | Arrowmaster | FuBar is FuBar 3.0 |
| 22:04.05 | Ditrih_SKOT | i get fubar 2.0 :) |
| 22:04.26 | Ditrih_SKOT | or FuBar2 |
| 22:04.42 | cladhaire | Toadkiller: way to raise that thread from the dead O.o |
| 22:05.39 | Ditrih_SKOT | lol) |
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| 22:06.22 | Ditrih_SKOT | I got Only Fubar_FuXperl and do not have got original Xperl |
| 22:06.32 | Ditrih_SKOT | its a misstake?) |
| 22:06.39 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:06.44 | Ditrih_SKOT | :D |
| 22:07.07 | Ditrih_SKOT | now let me see i need time to test this all |
| 22:07.42 | Khreasilya | if you download xperl from curse.com it should work then ditrih :) |
| 22:08.16 | Ditrih_SKOT | I want get cleat wow by ACE2. Ace is True |
| 22:08.25 | Ditrih_SKOT | clear wow* |
| 22:09.22 | cladhaire | So imagine that you're purchasing a book that has a full 400 page reference of the WoW API. Given the fact the functions are named so oddly at times, how would you want the listing to be organized by default (considering that there will be an index and listing of all functions in another section) |
| 22:09.45 | Ditrih_SKOT | Now real time test) |
| 22:09.54 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r56537 10Bartender3/Bar.lua: Bartender3: small tweak |
| 22:10.42 | Ditrih_SKOT | :( |
| 22:11.02 | Ditrih_SKOT | FuBar2 its NOT a FuBar? |
| 22:11.12 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 22:11.14 | Arrowmaster | get FuBar |
| 22:11.17 | Ditrih_SKOT | Xperl needed to Fubar, and i got Fubar2 |
| 22:11.35 | Ditrih_SKOT | Fubar > Fubar2 ot Xperl old?( |
| 22:11.51 | Arrowmaster | FuBar is FuBar 3.0, FuBar2 is FuBar 2.0 |
| 22:12.01 | Ditrih_SKOT | ohh)) |
| 22:12.07 | Ditrih_SKOT | nice, thx) |
| 22:14.00 | Ditrih_SKOT | YEeeeehooo! ITs WORK! HAHahahA! |
| 22:14.09 | Ditrih_SKOT | Im a god! |
| 22:14.55 | Ditrih_SKOT | Its realy cool, ace make all addons easy and quicle!! |
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| 22:15.18 | Ditrih_SKOT | I love u all thx very mutch) |
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| 22:17.48 | dylanm | I love that guy |
| 22:17.49 | dylanm | Really |
| 22:22.30 | Gnarfoz | he really seems like he's from tuvalu, too ^^ |
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| 22:25.34 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r56538 10ActionCombat/ (4 files): ActionCombat: Added Hunter-Buffs and Reactives |
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| 22:29.02 | NightHawkTheSane | So, here's some fun.. |
| 22:29.23 | NightHawkTheSane | I went in to work this morning, was there for about an hour when we got kicked out, the building was being evacuated due to road closures and flooding in nearby areas. |
| 22:29.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Now.. apparently the office network has gone down. >.> |
| 22:29.42 | sb | yayyy |
| 22:29.44 | sb | archimonde down |
| 22:29.53 | nevcairiel | congratz |
| 22:30.52 | thul | what dropped? |
| 22:31.18 | sb | bow, healer offhand, warrior, lock |
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| 22:35.45 | sb | there are no gems for archimonde, right? |
| 22:36.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh, ES has a 30s CD in 2.3.2? >< |
| 22:37.06 | Gngsk | welcome to three days ago |
| 22:37.39 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i havn't kept up with things much over the weekend |
| 22:38.40 | thul | maybe mages can actually kill shamans now :-P |
| 22:38.44 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r56539 10ActionCombat/ActionCombat.lua: ActionCombat: Hot-Fix |
| 22:38.49 | buu | Lawl owned. |
| 22:38.53 | buu | Shamans were way over powered. |
| 22:38.55 | buu | Duh. |
| 22:39.02 | NightHawkTheSane | feh, i dont even care about the pvp implications |
| 22:39.32 | NeoTron | yet another change made for PvP that affects PvE |
| 22:39.34 | buu | How often do you cast it in pve? |
| 22:39.47 | thul | hmm |
| 22:39.50 | thul | who uses ES in pve? :-P |
| 22:39.51 | mort | !points 590 |
| 22:39.51 | Xinhuan | 590 arena points require 1689(5s), 1742(3s) and 1810(2s) team rating. |
| 22:40.18 | Wobwor1 | cast it on the tank? |
| 22:40.30 | thul | earth shock on the tank? |
| 22:40.35 | thul | or are you thinking about earth shield? :-P |
| 22:40.45 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: you can't cast it on someone if they already have it up, so if it's at >4 charges or so before a pull, i toss it on myself to get it off the tank, then back on the tank |
| 22:41.06 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: =[ |
| 22:41.21 | NightHawkTheSane | and yes, I meant Earth Shield, why would earth shock be bumped to a 30s timer? that's absurd |
| 22:41.30 | Wobwor1 | oh earth shock |
| 22:41.33 | Wobwor1 | nm |
| 22:41.42 | buu | Well, you know blizzard. |
| 22:41.55 | thul | :-P |
| 22:42.10 | Wobwor1 | NightHawkTheSane: bah, didn't they change water shield to replace the current instance? |
| 22:42.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwor1: eh, wha? |
| 22:42.36 | WobWork | I vaugely recall some change like that |
| 22:43.29 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they changed water shield in 2.3, and will change it again in 2.3.2, but i fail to see what that has to do with earth shield? or are you going on to another line of conversation without informing us? :P |
| 22:43.46 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r56540 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBars.lua Options.lua): Bartender4: just some random fixes and tweaks and cake |
| 22:44.28 | Gnarfoz | that commit is full of lies |
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| 22:48.19 | sb | hm nice |
| 22:48.43 | sb | winterchill kill was ~1 month ago :) |
| 22:48.55 | nevcairiel | hyjal really isnt that hard |
| 22:50.15 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: Well I assumed the 'shield' spells worked under the same mechanism |
| 22:50.16 | NeoTron | archimonde isn't hard |
| 22:50.21 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10263.new#new |
| 22:50.21 | NeoTron | just requires people that aren't morons |
| 22:50.21 | JoshBorke | NightHawkTheSane: earthshield is getting a 10 second cooldown |
| 22:50.30 | Industrial | we |
| 22:50.31 | Industrial | er* |
| 22:50.40 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10263.msg163288#msg163288 |
| 22:50.40 | nevcairiel | wasnt it 30s? |
| 22:50.46 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: they're not really all the same, ES is targetable, WS and LS are self-only |
| 22:50.59 | Industrial | damn you forum software that doens tlink to a certain post after posting it! |
| 22:50.59 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: well, i havn't been on test, and the patch notes i read said 30, |
| 22:51.17 | JoshBorke | ok, 30 seconds |
| 22:51.18 | JoshBorke | whatever |
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| 22:52.36 | JoshBorke | wow, cutting the cost of earth shield in half? |
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| 22:52.58 | NivFreak | it's ok |
| 22:53.02 | NivFreak | my dispell doesn't have a CD |
| 22:53.17 | Khreasilya | question. is it possible to have a panel for eepanels ONLY appear when in raid |
| 22:54.12 | Gngsk | make it the child of a frame that only shows up in raid? |
| 22:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: 1k mana for earth shield was obnoxious. >< |
| 22:54.56 | Khreasilya | ok i'm code stupid. how? basically my pitbull raid frames show up in raid. i would like the frame i use to background it to show up at the same time. but have no earthyly how to do it |
| 22:55.01 | Khreasilya | *eathly |
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| 22:55.04 | Khreasilya | sigh... |
| 22:56.54 | kadrahil | i see a lot of UI's that have the player and target frame in the center of the screen with target of target in between them lately |
| 22:57.08 | Gnarfoz | that would just confuse me oO |
| 22:59.42 | Khreasilya | i do that. only mine are at the bottom center. works well |
| 22:59.44 | Khreasilya | :p |
| 23:00.03 | NightHawkTheSane | "The various Hallow’s End broom mounts now have their proper real-time (rather than game-time) duration of 14 days." awwww |
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| 23:01.24 | Khreasilya | so does that mean that any we have saved will dissappear? |
| 23:01.29 | Khreasilya | or will mail still stop timers? |
| 23:02.00 | Xinhuan | who knows |
| 23:04.40 | Khreasilya | can anyone help me with the eepanels thing though? :( |
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| 23:06.17 | GK-Porter | hi there |
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| 23:07.12 | GK-Porter | hello? |
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| 23:15.40 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r56541 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Add Major Resistance cloak enchant ID. |
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| 23:17.55 | Poul|Raider | Yo, anyone who can recommend some hosts that support .net 3.5 MS SQL Database, LINQ and decent amount of storage? |
| 23:19.18 | Arrowmaster | lol MS SQL |
| 23:21.04 | Tem | lol .net |
| 23:21.25 | NightHawkTheSane | lol 3.5 |
| 23:21.53 | Tem | hay gyus, i wanna rite my website in vb |
| 23:22.50 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, the company i work for developes in vb.net, it kinda makes me cry :( |
| 23:23.00 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r56542 10ActionCombat/Locale_koKR.lua: ActionCombat : koKR Update |
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| 23:30.52 | kebinusan | Im getting this error using FuBar_Fuxpfu with a detached bar: [2007/12/03 18:29:36-588-x1]: FuBar_FuXPFu\FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:675: attempt to call method 'GetAttachPoint' (a nil value) |
| 23:30.58 | kebinusan | Any ideas how I sould fix it |
| 23:35.02 | NightHawkTheSane | whine to WobWork? |
| 23:35.54 | WobWork | I wouldn't end up fixing it anytime this week |
| 23:38.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, I didn't say it was a good idea |
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| 23:40.21 | Xinhuan | ... after staring at the framexml code for 30 min |
| 23:40.31 | Tem | NightHawkTheSane, vb.net does suck, but surely you guys aren't using it for web development |
| 23:40.32 | Xinhuan | i realize the problem with the guild control pane |
| 23:40.40 | Xinhuan | is a typo in blizzard's code |
| 23:40.45 | Xinhuan | 1 instead of i |
| 23:40.58 | Tem | NightHawkTheSane, asp.net has to be the shittiest 'web framework' of all time |
| 23:41.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: hehe.. oh, but we are. asp/vb.net |
| 23:41.18 | NightHawkTheSane | course, i don't work on that part of the project |
| 23:41.21 | Tem | wow |
| 23:41.28 | Tem | I'd refuse to use it |
| 23:42.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, it's a decent job, so *shrug* |
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| 23:49.25 | WobWork | I probably will end up making FuXPFu FuIndependant |
| 23:49.39 | WobWork | Not sure what' it'd be called then =P |
| 23:50.41 | NightHawkTheSane | XpFu? |
| 23:50.58 | NightHawkTheSane | fuxp! |
| 23:51.21 | kebinusan | seems to have problems with panels other than at the top of the screen |
| 23:51.39 | WobWork | I would see if I could make it attach to -any- frame |
| 23:51.47 | WobWork | (with a name) |
| 23:52.32 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 23:52.37 | RaydenUni | been a while since i've had such a bad group |
| 23:52.42 | RaydenUni | i died the very first pull |
| 23:52.47 | RaydenUni | no talk of CC, no marking |
| 23:52.58 | RaydenUni | hunter just immediately pulled one of the 6 mob groups in SL |
| 23:53.27 | NightHawkTheSane | so? didn't your absurdly overpowered pally tank just pick them up and run with it? ;) |
| 23:53.43 | RaydenUni | the 69 warrior tank did his best and the feral specced druid tried to heal |
| 23:53.55 | RaydenUni | my last SL run was awesome |
| 23:54.02 | RaydenUni | we had an overpowered pally tank and i healed :D |
| 23:54.03 | NightHawkTheSane | and this is why I don't like pugs. |
| 23:54.15 | RaydenUni | we then made the druid tank and i tried to heal |
| 23:54.21 | RaydenUni | the hunter pulled again... |
| 23:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the MT for the guild is a pally tank. it's pretty awesome |
| 23:54.29 | RaydenUni | i love pally tanks |
| 23:54.31 | RaydenUni | so fast |
| 23:54.44 | RaydenUni | we swap between main warrior and pally |
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| 23:56.07 | Diao | lol |
| 23:56.12 | Diao | interestingly |
| 23:56.15 | Diao | nihilum now uses a pally to MT |
| 23:56.21 | Diao | and kungen retired his warrior from raids i assume |
| 23:56.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Unfortunately, none of our other tanks are really geared enough to main tank everything. >< |
| 23:57.01 | NightHawkTheSane | andI use tanks in the loose sense, as we have only one prot specced warrior (who kinda sucks, and only recently respecced prot), and two ferals who don't make raids that often. >< |
| 23:59.12 | _rane | is there such addon that warns me when buffs of my party members have been dispelled? |
| 23:59.40 | Stanzilla | Babble-Mount is not in the Lodscript for Babble-2.2 |
