| 00:01.18 | Chompers | one step closer to my squirrel army |
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| 00:02.05 | QuantumDelta | Sorry, Unable to process request at this time -- error 999. :< |
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| 00:07.44 | NivFreak | hrmmm |
| 00:07.51 | NivFreak | something is odd with the wow forums |
| 00:08.05 | NivFreak | there are random threads mixed in general, that are months old... |
| 00:08.07 | NivFreak | with a single post |
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| 00:08.35 | NivFreak | or I'm retarded... |
| 00:08.35 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:11.31 | Wobin | heehee |
| 00:11.41 | Wobin | Jean Claude Van Damme WoW ad =) |
| 00:11.54 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MYPvQysqaQ |
| 00:12.34 | Mudkipz | no way |
| 00:14.48 | Mudkipz | o shi-- |
| 00:18.43 | Hjalte | It's on the wow-eu website too now |
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| 00:29.10 | Pkekyo| | so basicly blizzard's paying off every washed-out actor there is? |
| 00:31.10 | ckknight | why don't chars in WoW smoke? |
| 00:31.20 | ckknight | couldn't you see undead lighting up after a battle? |
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| 00:32.24 | Pkekyo| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU lmao |
| 00:36.46 | Sedai | nice compositing |
| 00:37.30 | Pkekyo| | compositing? |
| 00:39.05 | Sedai | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing |
| 00:39.06 | Shirik | compositionizing |
| 00:39.18 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:39.48 | YourMomsHero | is there a Mac OSX version of the ace auto updater? |
| 00:39.49 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 00:40.56 | |Stan| | ~wau2 |
| 00:40.56 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 00:42.12 | Vulcanus | "Read all about it" <-- wtf, thats a white page with 5 links on it XD |
| 00:44.21 | Pkekyo| | so...WAU2 vs WAU? |
| 00:45.12 | Pkekyo| | Vulcanus: speaking of those FOUR links...only two of them works :> |
| 00:45.30 | Vulcanus | lmao |
| 00:45.47 | bigzero | ckknight: still there? |
| 00:45.47 | Vulcanus | one link is so big I count it twice |
| 00:45.54 | Wogroipl | so, I got Fel Reaver's Piston just now |
| 00:46.16 | Wogroipl | I also have Fathom Brooch and Essence of the Martyr |
| 00:46.18 | Pkekyo| | gz? |
| 00:46.34 | Wogroipl | which 2 should I use? |
| 00:47.36 | CIA-12 | 03siz * r56711 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua: |
| 00:47.36 | CIA-12 | JewelTips: |
| 00:47.36 | CIA-12 | - Added some enchants |
| 00:47.36 | CIA-12 | - Added the ability to distinguish between enchants which apply the same enchantID to different slots |
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| 00:55.22 | bigzero | ckknight: is DewDropLib not supposed to set the parent for the dropdown frame? seems like you might want the dropdown to close if the parent is hidden... |
| 01:18.26 | NivFreak | so pitbull has this feature to import layouts right? |
| 01:18.38 | NeoTron | ckknight: politially incorrect, much like the overall lack of smoking in tv series and movies compared to the 80s and 90s? |
| 01:18.40 | NivFreak | is there any repo off pre-create layouts? |
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| 01:36.13 | _rane | what was the addon again that shows enemy casts as text like SCT? |
| 01:36.23 | _rane | can't remember |
| 01:38.08 | hyperChipmunk | witchhunt |
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| 01:39.11 | _rane | thank you |
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| 01:48.40 | NivFreak | pitbull really needs class icons ;) |
| 01:50.46 | NivFreak | and a sane default layout |
| 01:53.26 | RogueShadow | Hmm. |
| 01:55.05 | RogueShadow | omg omg ckknight is online!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:55.07 | RogueShadow | WHAT"S UP |
| 01:55.45 | Diao | it does have class icons |
| 01:55.49 | Diao | replaces the portrait |
| 01:55.51 | Diao | ? |
| 01:58.18 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 02:01.22 | ckknight | omg omg it's RogueShadow!!!1!!!eleventy-one! |
| 02:02.39 | bigzero | ck, scroll up please, i posted a question for you |
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| 02:06.15 | bigzero | basically the problem is that if open a dewdrop for a frame and the frame gets hidden, the dewdrop stays. Adding a SetParent in the Dewdrop:Open solves the problem partially, but for some reason the children dewdrop frames have all the options grayed out.... |
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| 02:23.25 | Ecalix | when i try to instal WAU it just does a windows xp crash analysis. any ideas? |
| 02:26.48 | Mudkipz | you're screwed |
| 02:26.54 | Diao | http://www.wowace.com/wau2 |
| 02:26.54 | Diao | ? |
| 02:27.04 | Mudkipz | go ahead and jump off a building and do a barell roll |
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| 02:31.05 | Ecalix | awesome, thanks Diao! i was trying to get this to work: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater |
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| 02:54.27 | CIA-12 | 03siz * r56712 10JewelTips/ (JewelTips.lua JewelTips.toc): |
| 02:54.27 | CIA-12 | JewelTips: |
| 02:54.27 | CIA-12 | - Cleaned up the localization a bit |
| 02:54.27 | CIA-12 | - Fixed some typos |
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| 03:08.25 | ckknigh1 | Mudkipz: oh hai, i herd i liek u |
| 03:08.27 | NivFreak | ok |
| 03:08.33 | NivFreak | so overall I like pitbull |
| 03:08.39 | NivFreak | but I just spent 3 hours tweaking it... |
| 03:09.21 | ckknigh1 | it's a conspiracy |
| 03:09.32 | ckknigh1 | you spend so much time configuring it, that once you're done, you'll never want to give it up |
| 03:09.32 | NivFreak | the prat integration is great |
| 03:10.09 | NivFreak | I want a way to place a class icon and lvl num to the left of the portrait |
| 03:10.29 | NivFreak | but I'll survive for now |
| 03:11.57 | NivFreak | it also needs something to auto-align/space the frames |
| 03:12.09 | NivFreak | so I don't have to very carefully place all 8 raid group frames etc |
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| 03:26.17 | thul | another day is over |
| 03:27.46 | Xinhuan | Lukian, are you around? |
| 03:30.57 | thul | good evening Xinhuan |
| 03:31.08 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 03:35.30 | Xinhuan | so |
| 03:35.54 | Xinhuan | i have a close button anchored to my frame |
| 03:36.02 | Industrial | how does a unitframe addon integrate with a "chat framework" ? |
| 03:36.04 | Xinhuan | but 2 users report it anchored to UIParent |
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| 03:36.17 | Industrial | show chat on the unitframes? lmao |
| 03:36.17 | Xinhuan | how is that possible? |
| 03:36.25 | Industrial | < NivFreak> the prat integration is great |
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| 03:39.52 | Antiarc | Err |
| 03:40.00 | Antiarc | What's this "11/12 Marksmen Remaining" in Theramore? |
| 03:40.37 | hyperChipmunk | new zone event thingy |
| 03:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | for a quest |
| 03:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | there's some giant sea monster and they help you fight him |
| 03:41.48 | hyperChipmunk | i think |
| 03:42.00 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i gather from being on skype with a friend while he did it |
| 03:43.26 | Antiarc | Oh, that quest |
| 03:43.34 | Antiarc | I was thinking it was Halaa 2.0 or something |
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| 04:13.36 | Industrial | anyone use blogger? |
| 04:13.41 | Industrial | how do I turn off localisation? |
| 04:13.50 | Industrial | dutch internet ewwww |
| 04:14.13 | Industrial | got it |
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| 04:51.57 | Xinhuan | is there any addon other than auctioneer that would auto split up stacks for me to post on AH? |
| 04:52.16 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r56713 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:52.16 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 04:52.16 | CIA-12 | Update zhTW translation. |
| 04:52.32 | dylanm | You don't need any more gold Xin |
| 04:52.45 | Xinhuan | the 66k yesterday is 67k now |
| 04:53.01 | kergoth | i still hate you |
| 04:53.08 | kergoth | Anyone have any ideas on how to improve/rework the layout of the ui at http://picasaweb.google.com/kergoth/WorldOfWarcraft/photo#5141459642909169298 ? don't like it as is |
| 04:53.28 | Xinhuan | is that your UI? |
| 04:53.52 | Xinhuan | it looks ok |
| 04:54.02 | kergoth | in the middle of reworking it, since i ran out of disk space and my SV got corrupted :| |
| 04:54.05 | Xinhuan | but you should take a SS in a raid setting |
| 04:54.21 | Xinhuan | to show all addons you potentially use in a raid setting |
| 04:54.29 | Xinhuan | (AV is fine) |
| 04:59.33 | kergoth | hmm. i really almost never look at my actionbuttons, wonder if i should just bind everything and ditch the bars, or hide them until mouseover or key press or something |
| 04:59.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:00.34 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 05:00.41 | Xinhuan | you need the bars to see cooldowns |
| 05:01.25 | Diao | unless you use a cooldown mod! |
| 05:01.42 | Xinhuan | a cooldown mod uses more space than a bunch of buttons lol |
| 05:01.53 | Diao | lol |
| 05:01.57 | Diao | i use cooldown timers |
| 05:02.00 | Diao | scaled down very small |
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| 05:02.04 | Diao | takes up less room than buttons :P |
| 05:02.11 | Diao | but i still show buttons cause i'm weird like that |
| 05:02.14 | Xinhuan | scale down the buttons then |
| 05:02.14 | dylanm | I just can't get away from bars |
| 05:02.19 | Diao | i have buttons scaled down |
| 05:02.20 | Diao | to .64 |
| 05:02.23 | Diao | it won't let me scale lower |
| 05:02.24 | Diao | :( |
| 05:02.24 | dylanm | Alcoholic, as it were |
| 05:02.30 | Xinhuan | scale it manually |
| 05:02.35 | Xinhuan | :SetScale() |
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| 05:02.40 | Diao | lol |
| 05:02.47 | Diao | well i have my buttons shown mainly for uh |
| 05:02.51 | Diao | the average damage thing |
| 05:03.53 | dylanm | I just like having all the info about a particular spell in a constant location |
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| 05:12.02 | Diao | whoaaaa |
| 05:12.07 | Diao | when did snake trap get buffed |
| 05:12.36 | Diao | or maybe my game was severely lagged |
| 05:12.45 | Kalroth | wut? |
| 05:12.55 | Diao | there was a snake trap near a shaman 30 yards away |
| 05:12.58 | Diao | and they were hitting him |
| 05:13.02 | Diao | i'm on my priest |
| 05:13.06 | Diao | i hit prayer of mending and renew and bubble on him |
| 05:13.07 | Diao | suddenly |
| 05:13.09 | Diao | the snakes turn to me |
| 05:13.13 | Diao | and shoot poison at me from 30 yards away |
| 05:13.28 | Diao | like i saw gobs of green poison streaking towards my character |
| 05:13.32 | Diao | and i was like "wtf" |
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| 05:13.33 | Kalroth | sounds like lag, they do spit poison though |
| 05:14.15 | Diao | i always thought they had to hit you to poison you |
| 05:14.19 | Kalroth | naw |
| 05:14.37 | Diao | oh |
| 05:14.45 | Diao | cause i've never been hit by poison from range before by snake trap lol |
| 05:14.51 | Diao | i've always had them come bite me first |
| 05:15.17 | Kalroth | I love snake traps as a warrior |
| 05:15.46 | Diao | i don't |
| 05:15.46 | Kalroth | Never use them as a hunter though :p |
| 05:15.49 | Diao | wastes my whirlwind |
| 05:16.03 | Kalroth | 7 damage crit for enrage? yes please |
| 05:16.07 | Diao | lol |
| 05:16.10 | Diao | i'm generally enraged anyway |
| 05:16.12 | Diao | from the pet/hunter |
| 05:16.31 | Kalroth | Well if you got a pet on you to begin with, then the hunter is really dumb :p |
| 05:16.43 | Diao | oh |
| 05:16.45 | Diao | i taunt it |
| 05:16.49 | Diao | everytime it's off cd :P |
| 05:16.57 | Diao | free enrages/keeping it off my healer ftw |
| 05:17.13 | Kalroth | I don't like leaving zerker stance though ;) |
| 05:17.17 | Diao | meh |
| 05:17.20 | Diao | i'm always below 25 rage |
| 05:17.25 | Diao | unless i'm saving for a burst |
| 05:17.32 | Diao | so i just quickly switch def, taunt, back to zerk |
| 05:17.41 | Diao | plus |
| 05:17.44 | Diao | if i bring the pet to hunter |
| 05:17.49 | Diao | sweeping strikes+cleave/ww = win |
| 05:17.54 | Kalroth | yup |
| 05:18.40 | Kalroth | I had an arena fight where I did aoe taunt - got hunter pet, warlock fel dude and mage elemental on me. They apparently didn't notice, so it was free rage and a free healer for the next couple of mins :p |
| 05:23.24 | Gngsk | mins? |
| 05:24.04 | Kalroth | I play in a low bracket :P |
| 05:25.49 | Kalroth | or were you referring to the low duration of frost elemental? |
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| 05:41.55 | Diao | !rating 1100 |
| 05:41.55 | Xinhuan | 1100 rating gives 256(5s), 225(3s) and 194(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 05:41.58 | Diao | lol |
| 05:42.01 | kergoth | dude |
| 05:42.01 | kergoth | wtf |
| 05:42.06 | Diao | ? |
| 05:42.07 | kergoth | how does a mob parry my bat's Screech |
| 05:42.19 | Diao | the same way they parry/block without a shield/weapon |
| 05:42.20 | kergoth | i picture hte skeleton covering his ears with his hands going "lalalala" |
| 05:42.58 | Keias | Maybe he's deaf |
| 05:43.01 | Keias | You insensitive jerk! |
| 05:44.09 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:44.15 | mattswell | how does an addon go about breaking another addon? i'm working on an addon and aparently it breaks libdogtag, which is breaking pitbull |
| 05:44.18 | ckknight | Apple are no longer huge jerks in my mind |
| 05:44.22 | ckknight | they gave me a new computer |
| 05:44.25 | ckknight | (for free) |
| 05:44.28 | ckknight | new model, too |
| 05:44.49 | Keias | Nice ckk |
| 05:44.52 | mattswell | i'm not even using dogtag in my addon, or linking to it.. |
| 05:47.18 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:47.22 | ckknight | do new Macs come with Leopard? |
| 05:47.34 | mattswell | believe so |
| 05:47.38 | ckknight | sweet |
| 05:47.41 | ckknight | free Leopard! |
| 05:48.05 | ckknight | mmm... new plastic smell |
| 05:48.59 | ckknight | the best part of this is that I will no longer have to use Windows anymore |
| 05:49.07 | ckknight | also, the keyboard's clean |
| 05:49.08 | dylanm | That's a big plus |
| 05:49.09 | ckknight | which is nice |
| 05:49.12 | ckknight | but won't last long |
| 05:51.04 | ckknight | aw dang, no, it's Tiger |
| 05:51.31 | ckknight | well, cya later |
| 05:51.49 | Diao | uh |
| 05:51.54 | Diao | did blizzard change weapons kill mechanics? |
| 05:51.57 | Diao | my weapon skill just went up in arena |
| 05:52.02 | Diao | from 339->340 on an alt |
| 05:52.10 | Diao | weapon skill* |
| 05:53.19 | nymbia | ckknight: can probably get a copy on the cheap, they give you a copy for $10 if you've got a computer shipped more recent than oct 1 |
| 05:53.21 | hyperChipmunk | that always works; it's just duels where it doesn't |
| 05:53.34 | Diao | it goes up in normal pvp? |
| 05:53.36 | Diao | i always thought it didn't |
| 05:53.46 | nymbia | ckknight: yours might sneak in |
| 05:53.47 | hyperChipmunk | i used to get weapon skill in bgs all the time, since a lack of it doesn't seem to affect your hit chance there |
| 05:53.51 | Diao | weird |
| 05:53.59 | Diao | cause i knew it affected crit rate |
| 05:54.00 | hyperChipmunk | when i got GM and bought all the weapons |
| 05:54.01 | Diao | but not hit in pvp |
| 05:54.09 | Diao | never knew you could raise weapon skill though |
| 05:54.21 | hyperChipmunk | yep, i got 'em all that way >8) |
| 05:56.26 | Silowyi | so |
| 05:56.34 | Silowyi | we get to Fathom-Lord Karathess |
| 05:56.39 | Silowyi | and we only have three tanks |
| 05:56.43 | Silowyi | two of whom are feral druids |
| 05:57.21 | Silowyi | warrior is worried about shield block charges tanking two... so they put me on Karathess, Sharkiss, and Sharkiss' pet, the other feral on the shaman, and the warrior on the priest. |
| 05:57.28 | Silowyi | and it was one of our smoothest kills ever |
| 05:57.51 | Silowyi | Feral druids 4tw |
| 05:59.12 | Diao | hmm |
| 05:59.12 | Diao | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/allan.mcnamara/wowpics/UIShots/MaccaHealingUIDecember2007.jpg |
| 05:59.22 | Diao | can someone explain to me the omen setup |
| 05:59.27 | Diao | below ebb i think |
| 05:59.55 | Silowyi | that's grim reaper |
| 05:59.57 | Silowyi | not omen |
| 06:00.00 | hyperChipmunk | 98 MB O_o |
| 06:00.37 | khangg | thats quite a lot of mem usage |
| 06:00.59 | Diao | oh |
| 06:01.00 | Diao | what's grim reaper |
| 06:01.08 | Diao | death tracker or something? |
| 06:01.13 | Silowyi | shows last X events that happened to a target |
| 06:01.22 | Silowyi | useful when seeing what killed someone |
| 06:01.24 | Diao | filterable? |
| 06:01.35 | Silowyi | usually just shows your target |
| 06:01.39 | Diao | ie, how do you use it |
| 06:01.39 | Silowyi | only heals and damage |
| 06:01.42 | Diao | oh |
| 06:01.49 | Diao | :( |
| 06:01.52 | Diao | wasl ooking for a replacement to swlog |
| 06:01.55 | Diao | so i don't have to use swstats |
| 06:02.06 | Silowyi | I pretty much just use it to see who's being an idiot and dieing to things like spout, or flame patches |
| 06:02.24 | Silowyi | swlog is pretty cool though, lol |
| 06:02.44 | Silowyi | I wish I could figure out how to turn it on for my main |
| 06:03.57 | Xinhuan | i use a edited version of Expiration where i added a GUI to it |
| 06:05.19 | Lukian | Diao, swlog is awesome |
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| 06:05.26 | Lukian | there's relog, but it's incomplete |
| 06:05.50 | ckknight_ | okay, they gave me more RAM |
| 06:05.54 | ckknight_ | 2 GiB instead of 1 GiB |
| 06:06.24 | Lukian | isn't that a good thing ckk? :D |
| 06:06.50 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:06.51 | ckknight | it is |
| 06:06.59 | ckknight | I just find the whole situation absurd |
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| 06:11.29 | ckknight | wonder if my video card is better... |
| 06:12.05 | Silowyi | hey ckknight: |
| 06:12.10 | ckknight | hey guy |
| 06:12.41 | Silowyi | when using cartographer frequently right clicking/left clicking to zoom in zoom out stops working until I reload UI. But no error is generated anywhere that I can see. Any ideas? |
| 06:14.34 | ckknight | works for me... |
| 06:14.51 | ckknight | I believe the core cause of your issues stems from your incessant need to touch yourself at night |
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| 06:16.35 | Silowyi | probably flight map or something |
| 06:17.19 | ckknight | that's also a possibility |
| 06:17.37 | ckknight | hrm, okay, this is a nVidia card, before it was ATI |
| 06:17.41 | Silowyi | priest just called for an innervate, at 80% mana... |
| 06:17.51 | ckknight | lay the smackdown |
| 06:19.09 | Chumatha | hey i was wondering if i can get some help, im using eepanels and trying to get 8 panels to dissapear or appear depending on number of raid but i keep getting an unexpected symbol error near 'then' error...i can post the code if needed |
| 06:19.23 | Silowyi | hmm ckknight, perhaps this might have something to do with it |
| 06:19.40 | Silowyi | it appears that when the map is up, it's acting like I'm clicking on stuff under the map instead of the map itself |
| 06:19.41 | hyperChipmunk | Chumatha: ace.pastey.net |
| 06:19.54 | ckknight | ick |
| 06:19.56 | Silowyi | is there a setting to make the map click-through or something? |
| 06:20.03 | ckknight | Silowyi: do you have the map locked? |
| 06:20.07 | ckknight | yes, there is |
| 06:20.14 | Silowyi | yes, I have it locked |
| 06:20.18 | ckknight | that's why. |
| 06:20.22 | ckknight | that makes it click-through |
| 06:20.26 | Silowyi | woot! |
| 06:20.33 | Silowyi | thanks! |
| 06:21.04 | Silowyi | [00:14] (ckknight): I believe the core cause of your issues stems from your incessant need to touch yourself at night |
| 06:21.07 | Silowyi | how did you know?? |
| 06:21.24 | ckknight | I can sense the evil building inside of you |
| 06:21.41 | Silowyi | fair enough |
| 06:22.04 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r56714 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: Allow some latency time for attraction. |
| 06:22.26 | Chumatha | ok http://ace.pastey.net/78651-4ax3 |
| 06:23.35 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r56715 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Teron.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Teron: Tweak SoD message |
| 06:23.37 | ckknight | bbl, all |
| 06:27.15 | Chumatha | http://ace.pastey.net/78651-4ax3 that's the code....i'm getting the error : <string>:"function eePanels2:RaidPanelVisibility()...":2: unexpected symbol near 'then' any help? |
| 06:28.49 | hyperChipmunk | Chumatha: sure, give me a moment |
| 06:29.19 | hyperChipmunk | lowercase that if |
| 06:29.28 | hyperChipmunk | this isn't VB |
| 06:29.32 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 06:29.38 | Chumatha | ugh....how did i miss that |
| 06:29.57 | Diao | wow wtf |
| 06:30.09 | Diao | my level 60 blue geared alt priest and a friend are playing 2v2 arena for fun/free points |
| 06:30.19 | Diao | we just ran into a team of gladiators at 1300 rating... |
| 06:30.22 | Diao | :( |
| 06:30.49 | kebinusan | heh |
| 06:30.54 | kebinusan | I miss those days |
| 06:31.04 | hyperChipmunk | level 60 arena? |
| 06:31.09 | kebinusan | Ive faced nothing but warrior/druid for 60 games |
| 06:31.12 | Diao | level 70 arena |
| 06:31.17 | kebinusan | or so it seems |
| 06:31.18 | Diao | but i grinded to 70 |
| 06:31.24 | Diao | so i didn't do any instances or quests |
| 06:31.27 | Diao | thus the blue gear :P |
| 06:31.29 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, you said level 60 |
| 06:31.35 | Diao | er |
| 06:31.38 | Diao | i meant level 60 gears |
| 06:31.39 | Diao | :( |
| 06:31.58 | kebinusan | I hate how vulnerable pets are in 2v2 |
| 06:32.06 | kebinusan | they really need some resilience |
| 06:32.10 | Diao | i don't |
| 06:32.26 | Diao | because as a warrior, if i can't kill the pet, my healer can't drink while the lock/hunter's healer can |
| 06:32.44 | Diao | and i shouldn't have to spend 5 minutes beating on a pet to kill it! |
| 06:32.54 | kebinusan | yeah you should |
| 06:33.07 | kebinusan | jsut hamstring it and your healer can drink |
| 06:33.22 | kebinusan | but you should be able to kill pets in half a second |
| 06:33.28 | Diao | eh |
| 06:33.30 | Diao | usually takes about 15 sec |
| 06:33.33 | Diao | if i don't crit |
| 06:33.41 | kebinusan | and you will crit cause pets have zero resil |
| 06:33.44 | Diao | and if they don't heal it at all |
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| 06:34.19 | Diao | and keeping someone in combat as a warrior is much more difficult than as a lock or hunter |
| 06:34.29 | Diao | because i can't just turn around, fire off 1 spell/attack and switch back to my main target |
| 06:35.04 | Diao | i wouldn't mind pets getting like 1/5 of its owner's resilience though.. wouldn't be too bad |
| 06:35.28 | kebinusan | eh, I think its pretty easy to keep the healer in combat, warriors do way too much dmg, even at 450 resil my healer never really has time to drink with a wariror on me |
| 06:35.46 | Diao | "way too much" |
| 06:35.54 | Diao | i fight lock/druid and the druid has plenty of time to drink :\ |
| 06:36.22 | kebinusan | eh and your healer can keep the other healer in combat pretty easily |
| 06:36.22 | Diao | cyclone/root -> heal lock as lock runs, drink |
| 06:36.51 | kebinusan | least thats what always happens to us |
| 06:37.40 | Diao | but then i don't play with a druid |
| 06:37.42 | Diao | so i don't have ezmode ratings |
| 06:37.46 | Diao | :\ |
| 06:37.51 | kebinusan | heh |
| 06:37.53 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 06:38.07 | Diao | tried shaman priest and pally |
| 06:38.08 | kebinusan | druid/warrior and priest/rogue give me all sorts of grief |
| 06:38.11 | Diao | i don't know any druids who pvp |
| 06:38.15 | kebinusan | I play druid/lock |
| 06:38.19 | Diao | and shaman, priest, and pally all fail |
| 06:38.21 | Diao | at 2v2 |
| 06:38.22 | Diao | with warrior |
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| 06:38.53 | Silowyi | pally warrior is consistantly one of the top 2v2 teams in the bracket |
| 06:38.57 | Diao | ... |
| 06:39.00 | Diao | no it isn't lol |
| 06:39.02 | kebinusan | nah no way |
| 06:39.04 | Diao | it's one of the worst possible makeups |
| 06:39.07 | Diao | it dominated s1 |
| 06:39.11 | Keias | I wish I played in your battlegroup |
| 06:39.14 | Diao | but after that quickly got replaced by pally/druid |
| 06:39.15 | kebinusan | druid warrior is so vastly superior to pally warrior |
| 06:39.17 | Diao | er warr/druid and lock/druid |
| 06:39.38 | Diao | the funny thing is how blizz says 2v2 isn't balanced |
| 06:39.41 | kebinusan | least in our bg you see druid/warr lock/druid priest/rog and the occasional priest/hunter |
| 06:39.46 | Diao | and yet their official tournament is 2v2 format |
| 06:39.47 | Diao | gg? |
| 06:40.10 | Keias | still doesn't make druids or locks fun to PVP as |
| 06:40.19 | Diao | druids are fun :( |
| 06:40.21 | Silowyi | number 4 team in the U.S. was pally warrior, looks like he dropped the paladin though |
| 06:40.22 | Keias | Then again, I have a dire hatred for druids of all shapes and form |
| 06:40.29 | Silowyi | number 3 team in the u.s. is pally rogue atm |
| 06:40.57 | Diao | pally/rogue is very strong |
| 06:41.01 | Diao | pally/warr is nowhere near as good |
| 06:41.06 | Diao | because warr doesn't have the cc that rogue does |
| 06:41.25 | Diao | that's why warr and pally are so weak in 2s/3s brackets |
| 06:41.36 | Silowyi | right at the end of last year |
| 06:41.40 | Silowyi | I was looking at 2v2 teams |
| 06:41.47 | Silowyi | and the #1 spot was paladin warrior |
| 06:41.47 | Diao | the end of last year? |
| 06:41.49 | Diao | uh |
| 06:41.50 | Silowyi | err |
| 06:41.51 | Diao | bc wasn't out |
| 06:41.52 | Silowyi | last season |
| 06:41.56 | Diao | ... |
| 06:41.57 | Diao | s2? |
| 06:41.59 | Silowyi | you knew what I meant |
| 06:41.59 | Diao | or s1 |
| 06:41.59 | Silowyi | yes |
| 06:42.01 | Silowyi | s2 |
| 06:42.03 | Diao | nope |
| 06:42.05 | Diao | #1 team was warr/druid |
| 06:42.08 | Diao | lol |
| 06:42.16 | Silowyi | not the #1 team at the end |
| 06:42.16 | Diao | at least in the world |
| 06:42.18 | Silowyi | but right at the end |
| 06:42.24 | Silowyi | like within 3 or 4 weeks |
| 06:42.30 | Silowyi | point is, warrior paladin can still work. |
| 06:42.37 | Diao | nope |
| 06:42.39 | Diao | too many counters |
| 06:42.40 | Diao | lol |
| 06:42.48 | Diao | i play with a pally and even if we play *perfectly* |
| 06:42.53 | Keias | Maybe if you're in a shit battlegroup for all new servers or something :( |
| 06:43.00 | Diao | we get absolutely dominated by teams like druid/warr, lock/mage, rogue/lock, rogue/mage |
| 06:43.05 | Diao | lock/druid |
| 06:43.05 | Keias | I could go for some easy points this early in the season :D |
| 06:43.28 | Silowyi | tell your paladin to use blessing of freedom |
| 06:43.46 | Diao | and then what |
| 06:43.58 | Keias | Then you chase down the druid who's faster than you |
| 06:44.00 | Diao | he uses freedom whenever it's up |
| 06:44.01 | Keias | ..somehow |
| 06:44.05 | Silowyi | *shrugs* and then practically nothing can snare you. |
| 06:44.14 | Diao | except when freedom gets *eaten* |
| 06:44.17 | Diao | by a felhunter |
| 06:44.19 | Diao | or spellstolen by a mage |
| 06:44.21 | _neuron_ | or spell steal :P |
| 06:44.26 | Silowyi | if the warlock has bof on you |
| 06:44.29 | Silowyi | err |
| 06:44.30 | _neuron_ | which is worse, cuz then you can't intercept+hamstring either |
| 06:44.32 | Silowyi | has his felhunter on you |
| 06:44.32 | Diao | or i get kidneyshotted/whatever by the rogue |
| 06:44.34 | Silowyi | and not the paladin... |
| 06:44.39 | Diao | um |
| 06:44.41 | Diao | he can devour magic |
| 06:44.43 | Diao | from anywhere |
| 06:44.45 | Diao | lol |
| 06:44.45 | _neuron_ | pet on manual either way :P |
| 06:44.50 | Diao | and spell lock from like 30 yards |
| 06:44.51 | Keias | Yeah, Devour and Spell lock is like a 30 yard range |
| 06:44.53 | Silowyi | but you have a choice |
| 06:44.54 | Diao | doesn't even hvae to switch targets |
| 06:44.59 | Silowyi | eat spell, or interrupt cast |
| 06:45.02 | Diao | no |
| 06:45.03 | Diao | he can do both |
| 06:45.04 | Diao | at the same time |
| 06:45.10 | Silowyi | they are on the same cooldown |
| 06:45.11 | Diao | 30 yd range on spell lock/devour magic |
| 06:45.13 | _neuron_ | sure paladin/warr works to some degree, but it's not a cookie cutter |
| 06:45.17 | _neuron_ | no it's not Silowyi |
| 06:45.20 | Diao | no they aren't lol |
| 06:45.24 | kebinusan | no they share a cooldown, I wish spell lock was off the gcd |
| 06:45.32 | Diao | oh gcd |
| 06:45.40 | kebinusan | course I also think warriors shouldnt be able to intercept while snared |
| 06:45.40 | Silowyi | I wasn't saying GCD |
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| 06:45.53 | Keias | All spell interrupts should be off GCD like counterspell imo |
| 06:45.55 | Diao | that would be bs |
| 06:45.59 | Keias | Kick, pummel, etc |
| 06:46.02 | Diao | because we'd get kited even more than we do already |
| 06:46.05 | Silowyi | well our warlock told me he couldn't do both at once. |
| 06:46.07 | Diao | and it's so fucking easy to kite a warrior rightn ow |
| 06:46.09 | kebinusan | Keias: yeah I agree |
| 06:46.12 | Silowyi | so apparently I have a shitty warlock |
| 06:46.16 | Silowyi | which I can believe honestly |
| 06:46.26 | Silowyi | one of the reasons I quit that 5v5 |
| 06:46.28 | kebinusan | devour magic is a 8sec cd, and spell lock is a 24sec cd |
| 06:46.31 | Keias | Well you can't blame him |
| 06:46.36 | Keias | Warlocks are mind numbingly boring to play |
| 06:46.58 | kebinusan | I enjoy playing a warlock actually |
| 06:46.59 | _neuron_ | a lot to keep track of |
| 06:47.14 | Keias | Strange thing is |
| 06:47.18 | Keias | I love PVEing on my lock |
| 06:47.20 | _neuron_ | hated my warrior though, mage is quite fun, shadow priest booring, holy priest quite fun, druid frigging awsome :P |
| 06:47.21 | Keias | But can't stand to PVP on him :( |
| 06:47.27 | Lukian | _neuron_, heh, I have a macro with one button for my lock :p |
| 06:47.29 | Keias | lol |
| 06:47.38 | Keias | I'm like the exact opposite of you _neuron_ :P |
| 06:47.39 | _neuron_ | Lukian, can't do that on high end though, different timers and shit |
| 06:47.42 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 06:47.48 | kebinusan | one button macros are terribly inefficient |
| 06:47.55 | Keias | well I did like holy priest though |
| 06:48.02 | kebinusan | you get resists and things fall off at different times |
| 06:48.06 | Keias | Can't stand druid, and love my warrior |
| 06:48.07 | _neuron_ | the only thing I find annoying with the warlock is when some retarded melee char is on me and there's absolutely nothing I can do to get away :P |
| 06:48.15 | kebinusan | there is quite a lot to keep track of |
| 06:48.29 | ckknight | what's the best bittorrent client for mac? |
| 06:48.31 | kebinusan | _neuron_: yeah give all locks soul link since mages are getting iceblock |
| 06:48.34 | Lukian | kebinusan, if you notice the resists, you recast the spell using a non-maco :p |
| 06:48.36 | Lukian | macro* |
| 06:48.39 | _neuron_ | Lukian, manually cast everything, use DoTimer and turn on ghost timers, it's rrrreally good imo :P |
| 06:48.50 | kebinusan | I just use quartz |
| 06:48.57 | kebinusan | but yeah I prefer things on seperate buttons |
| 06:49.03 | _neuron_ | kebinusan, someone added ghost timers for that as well I believe |
| 06:49.08 | _neuron_ | ghost timers own so friggin much as a lock though |
| 06:49.14 | kebinusan | hm how so? |
| 06:49.19 | _neuron_ | and if you get trainable sl I might reactivate my lock :P |
| 06:49.23 | Lukian | ghost timers? |
| 06:49.30 | kebinusan | just displays a bar of spells that drop off no? |
| 06:49.35 | Silowyi | anyway, there was a warrior/paladin team in the top 5 at the end of s2 for the U.S. at least |
| 06:49.35 | Diao | trainable sl hell no |
| 06:49.37 | _neuron_ | ghost timers shows a shaded icon whenever a dot has fallen off |
| 06:49.44 | Diao | the fact that warlocks can even get fel concentration and sl together |
| 06:49.45 | Diao | is bs |
| 06:49.46 | Lukian | oh nice |
| 06:50.00 | _neuron_ | and when you have 4-5 dots on every target, it's a LOT easier to quickly look at that icon, than to look at all the icons that are on, and then calculate which one fell off. |
| 06:50.08 | kebinusan | warlocks need some sort of defensive ability w/o getting pigeonholed into soul link for pvp |
| 06:50.24 | _neuron_ | kebinusan, yeah, I dont really like SL, the reason I stopped playing him tbh :P |
| 06:50.29 | Diao | huh |
| 06:50.31 | Diao | http://www.geekboys.org/arena/index/2/all/all/2/all/ |
| 06:50.33 | Diao | that's 2v2 last season |
| 06:50.36 | _neuron_ | one thing is speccing back and forth my warrior, didn't wanna do it on my warlock as well :P |
| 06:50.49 | Diao | there's no pally/warr in top 5 o_O |
| 06:50.53 | kebinusan | I'll have to check out the ghost timers thing |
| 06:51.11 | _neuron_ | kebinusan, I noticed a patch for it quite far into the quartz thread |
| 06:51.13 | Diao | not even top 10 :x |
| 06:52.09 | Silowyi | hey this thing is cool |
| 06:52.50 | Silowyi | oh |
| 06:52.51 | Silowyi | sorry |
| 06:52.55 | Silowyi | it's just our battlegroup |
| 06:52.59 | kebinusan | that website is pretty out of date |
| 06:53.25 | Lukian | _neuron_, link? |
| 06:53.37 | _neuron_ | Lukian, looking for it but I can't find it :P, it was in the quartz thread though |
| 06:53.37 | Diao | it's realtime update |
| 06:53.48 | Diao | but armory hasn't updated yet |
| 06:53.50 | Diao | from last season |
| 06:53.52 | _neuron_ | dont know if you should search for ghost or dotimer though :P, but I remember thinking "they that's just like dotimer, neat" |
| 06:53.58 | Diao | so it's last season's final teams :P |
| 06:54.24 | _neuron_ | every forum should have a "search in this topic" feature... |
| 06:54.51 | Diao | ctrl-f |
| 06:54.56 | Diao | unless there's like 800 pages |
| 06:55.12 | Silowyi | #4 team in my battlegroup was a paladin/warrior team |
| 06:55.16 | _neuron_ | dieck, it is :P |
| 06:55.23 | Diao | lol |
| 06:55.36 | Silowyi | but Rampage is kind of a weak battlegroup |
| 06:55.48 | Diao | pally/warr isn't bad as far as things go |
| 06:55.53 | Diao | it's just too weak to a lot of common comps in 2v2 |
| 06:55.58 | Diao | easily controlled |
| 06:56.16 | Diao | even if you do everything perfectly, if the other team has a clue what they're doing you will probably lose |
| 06:56.23 | Diao | bar lucky crits/etc |
| 06:56.45 | Silowyi | the team was ironically called "CS My Pally" |
| 06:56.51 | Diao | lol |
| 06:57.04 | kebinusan | yeah that website doesnt have my team on it for season 2 and we got gladiator |
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| 06:57.38 | Silowyi | one of my friends already managed to find a way to powerlevel his personal rating up to 1850 |
| 06:57.48 | Xinhuan | share :) |
| 06:57.50 | Diao | we found a way.. play at weird times |
| 06:57.52 | Silowyi | played for 11 hours straight alternately winning games then tanking his rating using an alt. |
| 06:57.58 | Diao | lol |
| 06:58.12 | Xinhuan | isn't that hte "standard way" ? |
| 06:58.26 | Silowyi | I think its the only effective way people have figured out |
| 06:58.47 | Silowyi | personally I think if you play for 11 hours straight, there's no excuse for not getting 1850 just on your normal play |
| 06:58.58 | Silowyi | you should be good enough by then, that's 300 some odd games |
| 07:00.03 | Silowyi | hell I think I didn't play 300 games in all of S2 and I got points every week |
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| 07:02.01 | kebinusan | Well its more difficult to get 1850 early in the season because of all the teams starting at 1500 |
| 07:02.08 | kebinusan | just wait a few weeks |
| 07:02.14 | kebinusan | or play lots |
| 07:02.32 | Keias | Yeah, I'm just going easy the first few weeks |
| 07:02.47 | Keias | Then I'll jump into raising my personal rating to snag my weapon |
| 07:04.21 | Xinhuan | [12/8 14:58:46] <Silowyi> personally I think if you play for 11 hours straight, there's no excuse for not getting 1850 just on your normal play |
| 07:04.24 | Xinhuan | i have an excuse |
| 07:04.30 | Xinhuan | my left arm is broken :) |
| 07:04.34 | Xinhuan | and in a cast |
| 07:04.50 | _neuron_ | and your gonna let that stop you? Softcore |
| 07:05.27 | kebinusan | I broke my left arm because it was too easy playing with two hands! |
| 07:05.33 | _neuron_ | haha |
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| 07:07.39 | kebinusan | wine regression testing takes FOREVER |
| 07:08.33 | Xinhuan | sounds exactly line wine LOL |
| 07:08.37 | Xinhuan | like* |
| 07:08.47 | Xinhuan | takes years to mature ;p |
| 07:10.11 | Xinhuan | so my guild goes "Zul'Xin, geddit geddit?" |
| 07:10.21 | Xinhuan | T_T |
| 07:12.36 | kebinusan | yeah pain in the ass something broke for me between 0.9.46 and 0.9.47 and as such I cant run any later versions w/ ventrilo breaking |
| 07:13.07 | kebinusan | so Im trying regression testing to figure out what patch broke it for me |
| 07:13.28 | Xinhuan | maybe you should just run regular windows xp |
| 07:13.30 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 07:14.43 | kergoth | do a git bisect, i know there's a page outlining the use of git-svn with wine |
| 07:14.47 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 07:14.50 | kebinusan | im going through that |
| 07:14.54 | kergoth | :) |
| 07:15.05 | kebinusan | but still bisecting 350some patches and recompling takes a while |
| 07:16.19 | kergoth | don't get me started |
| 07:16.32 | kergoth | i had to do a git bisect on every commit between 2.6.10 and 2.6.16 in drivers/scsi in the linux kernel tree |
| 07:16.35 | kergoth | like 32k commits |
| 07:16.57 | kebinusan | hehe ok you win |
| 07:17.06 | kergoth | what's the best in game lua editor nowadays? |
| 07:17.11 | kergoth | tinypad still the way to go? |
| 07:17.17 | ggilbert | kebinusan: It doesn't work with 0.9.49 for you? |
| 07:17.19 | kebinusan | tinypad and omnibus are about the same |
| 07:17.32 | kebinusan | ggilbert: no, 0.9.47+ all have the same problem |
| 07:17.32 | kergoth | omnibus is kinda bloated iirc, but i like that you can name pages |
| 07:17.35 | kergoth | tinypad is almost too tiny |
| 07:18.37 | kebinusan | basically alsa sucks for ventrilo and bugs out, but I have this problem with OSS where if the input and output device in ventrilo are set to the same card I hear nothing, if I have the input on soundcard A and output on soundcard B, I can hear stuff fine |
| 07:18.45 | kebinusan | and vise versa |
| 07:19.11 | ggilbert | ugh. On the bright side, if you ever move to 3.0, it seems to play much nicer with alsa |
| 07:19.14 | kebinusan | so I need to find the patch between 0.9.46 and 0.9.47 that breaks it |
| 07:19.35 | kebinusan | yeah same problem with 3.0 and alsa, input stops working for me after a while or my ptt key doe |
| 07:19.39 | kebinusan | *does |
| 07:19.56 | ggilbert | Gotta love wine |
| 07:20.19 | kebinusan | yeah I should have bought the teamspeak server at least they have a linux client |
| 07:21.56 | ggilbert | It's an impressive accomplishment that anything runs at all, but it gets to be a real crap shoot some days |
| 07:22.10 | kebinusan | I have very few problems with wine |
| 07:22.21 | kebinusan | this is the only one Ive ever had really |
| 07:22.33 | kebinusan | and I can still run 0.9.46 and everything works fine |
| 07:22.49 | kebinusan | but Id like find the cause of it and possibly get it fixed |
| 07:23.08 | ggilbert | I've had some interesting fun, like when it decided to just stop recognizing my sound blaster live in WoW |
| 07:23.57 | kebinusan | I spose I could disable one of my sound cards and see if thigns work |
| 07:24.07 | kebinusan | but I like having ventrilo on a headset and other sound on my speakers |
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| 07:38.09 | Gngsk | anyone know if sapphiron is still bugged? |
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| 07:40.41 | Gngsk | guess so |
| 07:41.04 | Xinhuan | bugged? |
| 07:41.39 | Gngsk | never killed him? |
| 07:41.51 | Xinhuan | i killed him 4 weeks ago |
| 07:41.55 | Xinhuan | does that count? |
| 07:41.58 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 07:42.03 | ckknight | brb |
| 07:42.07 | Gngsk | ice blocks aren't blocking his ice bolt |
| 07:42.12 | Xinhuan | they are |
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| 07:42.24 | Gngsk | not from the experience on our last 2 pulls |
| 07:42.36 | Xinhuan | what you want is a /cast firball or something, any spell, that tests for LoS |
| 07:42.54 | Xinhuan | and move behind the iceblock until the spellcats fails and displays a "LoS error" |
| 07:43.01 | Xinhuan | spellcast* |
| 07:43.05 | Xinhuan | works like a charm |
| 07:43.13 | Gngsk | k, sounds like a good idea |
| 07:43.19 | kebinusan | people still do naxx? |
| 07:43.27 | Xinhuan | note that you need to move slightly "right" behind the ice block |
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| 07:43.38 | Xinhuan | the area closer to the left behind the block is in LoS |
| 07:43.48 | Xuerian | kebinusan: Stuff from the old raids is still hard to beat today |
| 07:43.59 | kebinusan | yeah I know the eye of the dead or w/e is still amazing |
| 07:44.20 | kebinusan | I never got past 4h, need to harass my guild to go back there sometime |
| 07:44.21 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:44.31 | Diao | anyone know the approximate rating difference |
| 07:44.34 | Xuerian | Not to mention, things like where druid t3 looks kickass, druid t5 looks LIKE ass |
| 07:44.35 | Diao | for 8 point gain on a win |
| 07:44.37 | Diao | or 8 point loss |
| 07:44.40 | Gngsk | we cleared everything to sapph tonight pretty quick |
| 07:44.46 | Gngsk | wiped on him twice to breaths |
| 07:44.50 | Gngsk | but we'll try that tommorow night |
| 07:45.22 | Gngsk | one question thought, what can melee classess use to see if they're not in los? |
| 07:45.30 | Xinhuan | throwing weapon |
| 07:45.34 | Gngsk | ahh, k |
| 07:45.35 | Xinhuan | gun shoot |
| 07:45.40 | Xinhuan | bow |
| 07:45.44 | Xuerian | ... charge >:) |
| 07:45.51 | Xinhuan | egans blaster |
| 07:45.54 | Xinhuan | whatever |
| 07:46.12 | Xuerian | Charge is the more fun option >:O |
| 07:46.21 | kebinusan | heh |
| 07:46.29 | Xinhuan | not really, cos you don't really want to charge if you are really in los |
| 07:46.37 | Xuerian | That's what makes it fun, duh |
| 07:46.53 | Xinhuan | saphh is doable 24-man |
| 07:46.58 | Xinhuan | at lvl 70 |
| 07:47.01 | Gngsk | we had 21 |
| 07:47.09 | Gngsk | but we'd lose like 10-15 on the first breath |
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| 07:54.31 | kergoth | nice, <3 omnibus.. it's much better than when i tried it last |
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| 08:14.23 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 08:16.34 | kergoth | damnit |
| 08:16.41 | kergoth | i keep trying to use vim keybindings in omnibus :P |
| 08:18.06 | CIA-12 | 03paene * r56716 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 08:18.06 | CIA-12 | Cryolysis2: |
| 08:18.06 | CIA-12 | -Allow reagent restocking amounts to go as low as 0 (instead of 1) |
| 08:19.14 | Xuerian | Did I miss the demise of the GlobalDefense channel? |
| 08:19.32 | Xuerian | kergoth: Do you have any luck with autoexec pages in omnibus? |
| 08:19.33 | Thrae | Haha, they removed GlobalDefense? |
| 08:19.52 | Olison | oh no please not |
| 08:19.55 | Xuerian | Thrae: Dunno, moved to a rppvp and I can't find it |
| 08:19.58 | Thrae | So much for "WORLD of WARcraft". |
| 08:20.00 | Xuerian | Probably just 3am |
| 08:20.49 | Xuerian | Oh, is WorldDefense... |
| 08:20.59 | Thrae | Right |
| 08:21.30 | Xinhuan | ~fail Xuerian |
| 08:21.30 | purl | Xuerian: Fail. |
| 08:21.37 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: 3am |
| 08:27.21 | Fisker- | haha @ SG:A |
| 08:27.35 | kebinusan | hm? |
| 08:27.44 | kebinusan | oh |
| 08:28.14 | kebinusan | havent watched it yet, been too busy trying to find the patch that broke wine for meh |
| 08:28.17 | kergoth | Xuerian: they seem to work fine here |
| 08:28.31 | Xuerian | kergoth: Sad, they don't work at all for me :D |
| 08:28.55 | kergoth | i just set up a page in my code snippets folio to add an Omnibus.RunFB2Tag, then made a flexbar2 tag and tagged the flexbar2 folio items with it |
| 08:28.56 | Xuerian | Then again, a few things in my ui don't seem to work exactly properly...And I'm the common factor, so who knows :p |
| 08:28.59 | kergoth | seems to behave |
| 08:29.09 | kergoth | the runfb2tag one autoruns |
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| 08:37.30 | Xuerian | Mneh.. need to write a mod that declines invites from level 1's in X zones by default. |
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| 08:38.30 | kergoth | Xuerian: there's a few of them. stopinvites is one, pretty sure its in the svn |
| 08:38.45 | kergoth | hmm, anyone have any good links to secure frames & frame header info? |
| 08:38.46 | Xuerian | kergoth: Nifty-nuggets. Danke. |
| 08:38.51 | kergoth | np |
| 08:39.02 | Xinhuan | not really kergoth |
| 08:39.07 | kebinusan | kergoth: wowwiki? |
| 08:39.29 | Xinhuan | most of the stuff is commented in blizz default ui code itself |
| 08:39.33 | kergoth | hrm |
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| 09:10.44 | cncfanatics | hello people |
| 09:11.23 | kergoth | cncfanatics: hey.. tried fb2 for the first time.. nice job, it kicks ass so far. |
| 09:11.25 | kergoth | :) |
| 09:11.26 | CIA-12 | 03nymbia * r56717 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (6 files in 6 dirs): LibPeriodicTable-3.1: Automated dataminer update |
| 09:11.45 | cncfanatics | kergoth :) |
| 09:12.29 | cncfanatics | cheers |
| 09:13.17 | cncfanatics | kergoth, are you a volunteer to help with fb2 later on maybe ? :o |
| 09:14.31 | kergoth | would be glad to after i grasp this stuff |
| 09:15.38 | Xinhuan | there isn't much to grasp |
| 09:16.33 | Xinhuan | a button only works if it inherits the secure onclick handler in the templates - so looking at the function in the template code will "teach" you |
| 09:16.44 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan |
| 09:16.50 | cncfanatics | you don't want to see how I manage statebuttons in fb tbh |
| 09:17.09 | Xinhuan | meh, those are "advanced" stuff |
| 09:17.12 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 09:17.12 | Diao | wow |
| 09:17.14 | Diao | that was bs |
| 09:17.19 | Diao | spri/lock |
| 09:17.23 | Diao | after 3 fears on my pally |
| 09:17.28 | Diao | the spri chains blackout procs on the pally til he dies |
| 09:17.32 | Diao | that's some serious luck |
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| 09:23.10 | kergoth | Xinhuan: i get the basic idea, just not what all the twisted maze of attributes are yet :P |
| 09:23.47 | Xinhuan | its pretty messed up |
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| 09:26.08 | Fisker- | nymbia is hot |
| 09:32.07 | cncfanatics | kergoth, one tip |
| 09:32.12 | cncfanatics | do not go look at the attributes.lua file |
| 09:32.16 | cncfanatics | it'll blow ur brain up :p |
| 09:32.34 | kergoth | already glanced at it, what do you think sent me grasping for documentation :P |
| 09:32.41 | Fisker- | Wouldn't happen much then cncfanatics |
| 09:32.51 | Fisker- | If you see what i did there |
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| 09:35.53 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, the status of your brain ain't the normal one, so don't assume it is :p |
| 09:36.53 | Fisker- | i was refering to kergoth though |
| 09:36.59 | Fisker- | so you didn't see what i did there :< |
| 09:37.26 | cncfanatics | I did :p |
| 09:37.31 | cncfanatics | it was just lame |
| 09:38.05 | Fisker- | no u :( |
| 09:39.46 | Diao | fuck this game |
| 09:39.55 | Diao | we just lost 10 points to a spri/lock that we shouldn't even be fighting |
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| 09:41.40 | cncfanatics | poor little girl :p |
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| 09:50.36 | kebinusan | heh |
| 09:50.39 | kebinusan | thats the way of things |
| 09:50.49 | kebinusan | gain 50 lose 40 repeat till 2300 |
| 09:51.17 | kebinusan | My partner got fed up today and stopped playing despite our 2:1 win loss ratio ... |
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| 09:51.47 | Diao | well |
| 09:51.54 | Diao | against any decently played spri/lock, warr/pal has no chance :\ |
| 09:52.07 | Diao | pal gets locked down completely once the bubble is gone, and there's no way i can kill either spri or lock in under 12s |
| 09:52.16 | kergoth | hmm, is anyone working on a new sprocket type addon? |
| 09:52.39 | kebinusan | kergoth: I thought the secure frame crap made it unpossible, but I wouldnt mind seeing one |
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| 10:08.12 | Aenslaed | Diao: well, its all about you killing them before they kill you in that situation. If you stay on the spriest, you should be able to kill it before your pally dies. In which case, its bubble/trinket etc |
| 10:08.40 | CIA-12 | 03rewad * r56718 10WoWonid/ (Readme.txt WoWonid.toc level/WoWonid_lvl_15.lua): |
| 10:08.40 | CIA-12 | WoWonid: |
| 10:08.40 | CIA-12 | - ready for curse-release v1.8.1 |
| 10:08.40 | CIA-12 | - toc updated |
| 10:08.40 | CIA-12 | - level 15 added |
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| 10:09.31 | Diao | they kill me |
| 10:09.34 | Diao | not the pally |
| 10:09.57 | Diao | they just lock down the pally usually |
| 10:10.26 | Diao | and if i leave an afflic lock alone doesn't he just spam shadowbolt ._. |
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| 10:31.17 | Ozguli | Diao 2v2 is about the setup anyway |
| 10:32.09 | Ozguli | I'm a rogue and arena partner a warrior |
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| 10:32.42 | Ozguli | if it's a lock/spriest pair then the priest goes down in ~10 seconds and lock will soon follow |
| 10:36.04 | Diao | well |
| 10:36.10 | Diao | you have the rogue to burst through the shield :( |
| 10:36.21 | Diao | me get no rage from shield = sitting duck |
| 10:37.13 | Ozguli | mee-hee |
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| 10:37.25 | Ozguli | that's what my friend says too... "you kill them before I get there" |
| 10:37.36 | Diao | lol |
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| 10:38.02 | Ozguli | (I asked him why he always has much less dmg done than I have) |
| 10:38.46 | Diao | haha |
| 10:38.51 | Diao | yep that's the weakness of warr :( |
| 10:38.59 | Diao | we need help when there's a bubble |
| 10:42.53 | nevcairiel | haha yeah pally bubbles himself and bop's the other guy .. win =P |
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| 10:44.44 | Fisker- | :O |
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| 11:02.26 | Orionshock | HKM blows.... |
| 11:04.19 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56720 10Violation/ (Damage/DPS.lua Healing/HPS.lua): Violation: Reset combat timers when the modules reset for HPS/DPS. |
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| 11:07.01 | Orionshock | ok.. so what's the extablished method for doing HKM? |
| 11:08.24 | nevcairiel | HKM? |
| 11:08.33 | Orionshock | High King Mulgar |
| 11:08.50 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 11:08.57 | nevcairiel | tank & spank? |
| 11:09.02 | Orionshock | .... |
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| 11:09.08 | Orionshock | diaf nevcairiel :P |
| 11:09.25 | nevcairiel | the pull is the hardest part really |
| 11:09.34 | Orionshock | we got the pull |
| 11:09.35 | Lukian | like this? http://www.wowblues.com/us/die-in-a-fire-3271180880.html |
| 11:09.37 | kebinusan | We always went priest -> lock -> shaman -> mage -> maulgar but it doesnt matter so much |
| 11:09.38 | Orionshock | just dumb warlocks |
| 11:09.58 | kebinusan | and yeah, all the fun is in the pull and maybe keeping hte mage alive |
| 11:10.06 | kebinusan | depends on your mage tho |
| 11:10.15 | Orionshock | our locks can't figure out how to enslave and tank |
| 11:10.28 | Lukian | Orionshock, haha |
| 11:10.41 | kebinusan | its best to have a tank or two on the lock with the felhounds since he deathcoils alot and can rape people |
| 11:10.47 | nevcairiel | we generally have 2 offwarriors tank the warlock, 1 def to tank maulgar, a mage for the mage .. 2 hunters or a moonkin to tank the shaman .. kill priest first, basicly in stunlock or something |
| 11:10.59 | kebinusan | we jsut let a couple warriors tank the lock since they are easier to heal |
| 11:11.29 | kebinusan | heh we never have a moonkin in the raid |
| 11:11.47 | kebinusan | or anything but holy paladins, kinda makes me :-( |
| 11:11.47 | nevcairiel | its great, sheep immune, works good for tanking the shaman |
| 11:12.25 | kebinusan | yeah thats what I thought about after you said it |
| 11:12.43 | nevcairiel | altho we havent really bin there for ages |
| 11:12.47 | nevcairiel | *been |
| 11:13.23 | Orionshock | we did bout 10 attempts on him |
| 11:13.40 | Orionshock | the pull would happen .. the mobs would sperate. |
| 11:14.02 | Orionshock | and the locks would not pull their collective heads out of their asses to fking enslave and tank the dam lock.... |
| 11:14.25 | Orionshock | khaos ensued and the lock did what locks do best, rape others sideways |
| 11:14.32 | kebinusan | Orionshock: enslave is a 3 second cast and you cant do it effectively until there are two felhounds up because of deathcoil |
| 11:14.38 | kebinusan | you really need at least 1 tank on him |
| 11:14.49 | Orionshock | ... we had 3 on him at one point |
| 11:17.19 | _neuron_ | if you had 3 tanks on him what do you need the warlocks for :P |
| 11:18.04 | Diao | your locks need to use the pets though |
| 11:18.07 | Diao | cause they do a LOT of damage |
| 11:20.25 | Ozguli | I thought you were speaking about arena |
| 11:20.31 | Ozguli | until I scrolled up |
| 11:20.32 | Diao | lol |
| 11:21.33 | Fisker- | i can see how you got confused |
| 11:21.43 | Fisker- | but the reality is that the HKM warlock is killable |
| 11:21.54 | Fisker- | player warlocks aren't |
| 11:22.13 | kebinusan | spoken like a paladin or druid |
| 11:22.42 | TheKarn | hkm=maulgar? |
| 11:22.46 | Diao | yep |
| 11:23.44 | Fisker- | why kebinusan? :O |
| 11:24.22 | kebinusan | am I right? |
| 11:24.29 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel |
| 11:24.34 | Xinhuan | BankItems_Frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "BankItems_Frame", UIParent); |
| 11:24.46 | Xinhuan | will the variable ever return nil? |
| 11:25.03 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt think so |
| 11:25.09 | Xinhuan | because |
| 11:25.15 | Xinhuan | later on |
| 11:25.17 | Xinhuan | i have |
| 11:25.18 | Xinhuan | temp = CreateFrame("Button", "BankItems_CloseButton", BankItems_Frame, "UIPanelCloseButton"); |
| 11:25.19 | nevcairiel | unless there is soem crazy bug when assigning the same var as the frame name |
| 11:25.24 | Xinhuan | temp:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", 0, -8); |
| 11:25.44 | Xinhuan | and 2 specific users complained that that button is near their minimap |
| 11:26.00 | Xinhuan | which makes no sense to me |
| 11:26.14 | nevcairiel | maybe UIPanelCloseButton does some alignment already and you dont :ClearAllPoints()? |
| 11:26.29 | Xinhuan | according to framexml, no |
| 11:26.39 | Xinhuan | it only has a size/width defined |
| 11:27.14 | Xinhuan | i'm totally stumped |
| 11:27.50 | Xinhuan | also that local BankItems_Frame is a local defined earlier |
| 11:28.45 | nevcairiel | hm no idea |
| 11:28.56 | nevcairiel | i would try to make sure the SetPoint works better |
| 11:29.07 | nevcairiel | like clearallpoints before |
| 11:30.05 | Xinhuan | sigh, :< |
| 11:30.12 | Xinhuan | still, its weird |
| 11:30.30 | Xinhuan | only way it would be near the |
| 11:30.36 | Xinhuan | minimap is if BankItems_Frame == nil |
| 11:30.40 | Xinhuan | right? |
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| 11:33.18 | nevcairiel | possibly |
| 11:33.24 | nevcairiel | it would use UIParent then |
| 11:33.38 | nevcairiel | you can tell them to do :GetParent():GetName() on the button |
| 11:33.41 | nevcairiel | to chekc |
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| 11:34.53 | Orionshock | ... wtb eazy macro to move the frame under the mouse on click |
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| 11:35.20 | Xinhuan | /run GetMouseFocus():SetMovable(true); GetMouseFocus():StartMoving() |
| 11:35.36 | Xinhuan | then /run GetMouseFocus():StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 11:36.47 | Orionshock | oh man that works so nicely |
| 11:37.22 | Xinhuan | note that moving a frame this way, sets its setpoint() parent to UIParent |
| 11:37.25 | Orionshock | btw it was so i could move the GBank frame from your addon Xinhuan |
| 11:37.39 | Xinhuan | actually, just update BankItems |
| 11:37.45 | Xinhuan | i committed something yesterday |
| 11:37.50 | Xinhuan | that allows the bigb to be moved |
| 11:38.13 | Xinhuan | plus remember where it moved to |
| 11:38.42 | Orionshock | couldn't you just do a frame:SetUserPlaced(true) ? |
| 11:38.50 | Orionshock | or something like that/ |
| 11:38.52 | Xinhuan | you'll still have to "unlock" moving in the options top move it though |
| 11:39.05 | Xinhuan | yes, but that only saves it in layout-cache.txt |
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| 11:39.17 | Xinhuan | if you disable addon, login, logout, enable, login |
| 11:39.19 | Xinhuan | it will be gone |
| 11:39.28 | Xinhuan | if yu save the position by your method |
| 11:39.53 | Orionshock | yep, simple and cheezy :D |
| 11:40.27 | Xinhuan | all i do is save the 4 return values of Getpoint() |
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| 11:40.32 | Xinhuan | after a startmovingorsizing |
| 11:40.34 | Xinhuan | simple |
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| 11:41.03 | Orionshock | oh wow |
| 11:41.08 | Orionshock | don't do that to the world frame |
| 11:41.10 | Orionshock | .... |
| 11:41.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:41.21 | Polarina | Why not? |
| 11:41.30 | Orionshock | that'll really fuck with you |
| 11:41.32 | nevcairiel | moving the worldframe is bad |
| 11:41.54 | Orionshock | bout as smart as |
| 11:41.59 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.00 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56721 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 11:42.00 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib |
| 11:42.00 | CIA-12 | Stronger check on passed value for CommSend |
| 11:42.24 | Xinhuan | you can alwasys add a check to the macro i gave you above |
| 11:42.32 | Xinhuan | to make sure it isn't uiparent or worldframe |
| 11:42.44 | nevcairiel | i dont think UIParent is a frame you can hover |
| 11:42.50 | Orionshock | nope |
| 11:43.24 | Orionshock | LOLZ, how to ninja the Skettis Escort quest, use a mod to auto accept it |
| 11:43.34 | Xinhuan | you can, if uiparent is a different size from worldframe |
| 11:43.55 | Xinhuan | some ppl run 2 monitors and their uiparent is over 2 screens wide |
| 11:44.00 | Xinhuan | with worldframe on one screen |
| 11:44.18 | nevcairiel | but is UIParent EnableMouse = true so it returns for mousefocus? |
| 11:44.21 | nevcairiel | dunno :) |
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| 11:46.24 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: ... /dump UIParent.EnableMouse = func() |
| 11:46.26 | Orionshock | ? |
| 11:46.57 | nevcairiel | i looked at the UIParent xml definition |
| 11:47.02 | nevcairiel | its not set to enablemouse |
| 11:47.12 | nevcairiel | so you will never get it by GetMouseFocus() |
| 11:47.19 | Orionshock | BOO |
| 11:47.39 | Orionshock | but the world frame is snap'ed to the screen tho |
| 11:47.46 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 12:18.07 | CIA-12 | 03mokhtar * r56722 10GridDynamicLayout/ (. GridDynamicLayout.lua GridDynamicLayout.toc): |
| 12:18.07 | CIA-12 | GridDynamicLayout : initial commit |
| 12:18.07 | CIA-12 | - Layout that dynamically breaks down your raid into Tanks / Healers / Ranged and Melee DPS |
| 12:19.23 | Polarina | *sigh* |
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| 12:22.21 | Polarina | It is possible to update a addon through in-game communications! |
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| 12:28.09 | Orionshock | actualy Polarina it's not |
| 12:28.50 | nevcairiel | actually it is |
| 12:28.57 | nevcairiel | if the addon has been developed to allow that |
| 12:29.01 | Orionshock | how do you store functions? |
| 12:29.08 | thul | actually, darth vader says that it is a draw. |
| 12:29.08 | nevcairiel | in a SV? |
| 12:29.13 | Xinhuan | you store it in stringform |
| 12:29.18 | Xinhuan | and loadstring it |
| 12:29.20 | Xinhuan | then execute it |
| 12:29.24 | Orionshock | ..... |
| 12:29.43 | Xinhuan | and yes you will need to store that string in your sv |
| 12:29.50 | Orionshock | .... |
| 12:29.51 | Xinhuan | to load every game session |
| 12:29.53 | Orionshock | but why ? |
| 12:30.01 | Xinhuan | well its possible |
| 12:30.12 | Xinhuan | to receive such a string tp "update" your addon |
| 12:30.16 | Xinhuan | to* |
| 12:30.33 | Xinhuan | through in-game communications |
| 12:30.49 | Xinhuan | ask shirik for details |
| 12:31.28 | Xinhuan | he plans to use digital public key stuff to update that way to verify that a received update is valid |
| 12:31.56 | Orionshock | why does that entire idea sound ... unreliable... |
| 12:32.02 | cncfanatics | its not unreliable tbh |
| 12:32.05 | cncfanatics | sounds fine |
| 12:32.22 | Xinhuan | cos the string is encoded with the secret key |
| 12:32.32 | Xinhuan | the addon hass the public key to decode it |
| 12:35.31 | cncfanatics | that does sound like a nice system |
| 12:35.34 | cncfanatics | but would require quite some coding |
| 12:35.54 | Orionshock | half if it bent up in the upgrade and load sequence |
| 12:36.02 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 12:36.03 | cncfanatics | actualy |
| 12:36.07 | cncfanatics | no it wouldn't require that much coding |
| 12:36.15 | cncfanatics | the addon could load the "regular" version |
| 12:36.21 | CIA-12 | 03mokhtar * r56723 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: |
| 12:36.21 | CIA-12 | Grid: |
| 12:36.21 | CIA-12 | - Merged GridLayout.lua with Jerry's PetForGrid branch to correct positioning errors |
| 12:36.23 | cncfanatics | before it enables itself, ask around for updates |
| 12:36.31 | cncfanatics | take the updates, and then load |
| 12:36.38 | cncfanatics | though that might slow down the loading process by a lot |
| 12:36.58 | cncfanatics | it could also just load the recieved updates from the next /reloadui on |
| 12:37.02 | cncfanatics | so it would never be slowed |
| 12:37.04 | Xinhuan | the addon has to save the "string" |
| 12:37.13 | Xinhuan | in the SV to loadstring every session |
| 12:37.23 | Xinhuan | that's about the only disadvantage |
| 12:38.07 | cncfanatics | sounds like a nice system |
| 12:38.13 | cncfanatics | but it would be anoying at some points |
| 12:38.16 | cncfanatics | how would you send updates ? |
| 12:38.18 | cncfanatics | only what the user needs ? |
| 12:38.39 | Xinhuan | the assumption is there would be a form of p2p system |
| 12:38.43 | Xinhuan | like bittorrent |
| 12:38.44 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 12:38.51 | cncfanatics | either way |
| 12:38.56 | cncfanatics | you need to know exactly what to send |
| 12:39.05 | Xinhuan | its complicated |
| 12:39.06 | cncfanatics | so every single possible update would have to be kept in a lua file prolly |
| 12:39.48 | cncfanatics | who is planning to code that btw ? |
| 12:39.50 | cncfanatics | u mentioned someone |
| 12:39.51 | Xinhuan | and also vulnerable to being hacked if the secret key is hacked |
| 12:40.00 | Xinhuan | Shirik, Conspiracy |
| 12:40.12 | Xinhuan | he worked on rdx or something |
| 12:40.47 | Xinhuan | which uses a similar system to allow remote code execution |
| 12:41.10 | Orionshock | ... LibBigBrother-1.0 |
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| 12:41.33 | Xinhuan | its possible to send a malicious code to delete every item in your bag/equipped though :) |
| 12:41.38 | Xinhuan | if its hacked |
| 12:41.47 | Orionshock | a wow virus... |
| 12:41.52 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 12:41.57 | Orionshock | a good reason not to do it |
| 12:42.01 | cncfanatics | tbh |
| 12:42.04 | cncfanatics | what would the benefit be ? |
| 12:42.07 | cncfanatics | of making such a thing |
| 12:42.10 | cncfanatics | there is nothing to be gained |
| 12:42.23 | Orionshock | gain? |
| 12:42.26 | Orionshock | wait - your thinking |
| 12:42.28 | Orionshock | stop |
| 12:42.29 | Xinhuan | imagine if someone were to commit to fubar right now, code to pickup and auto destroy every item in all your bags |
| 12:42.48 | nevcairiel | if someone has the most recent version of a bossmod for example, he could broadcast that to every member in your raid |
| 12:42.54 | Polarina | WoW Virus, lol. |
| 12:43.23 | Xinhuan | it doesn't take much to spread malicious code atm |
| 12:43.33 | Xinhuan | since anyone can commit to almost any addon |
| 12:43.43 | Polarina | All you need is a public and a private key. |
| 12:43.46 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, what stops someone from doing it ? |
| 12:43.53 | Xinhuan | nothing can atm |
| 12:44.04 | Xinhuan | with the current svn permissions |
| 12:44.16 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I would notice. |
| 12:44.40 | cncfanatics | well, thing is, people don't do it |
| 12:44.42 | cncfanatics | even though they can |
| 12:44.49 | Xinhuan | you don't really check every commit do you? |
| 12:45.12 | vhaarr | I check all commits to addons I care about |
| 12:45.16 | vhaarr | i.e. the important ones |
| 12:45.26 | Polarina | I think I'll write a library for that. :) |
| 12:45.42 | cncfanatics | such a library needs to be very very secure |
| 12:45.42 | Xinhuan | true, but a malicious commit could still occur for a few hours |
| 12:45.53 | Polarina | cncfanatics: Of course. |
| 12:46.01 | Xinhuan | before being removed |
| 12:46.32 | Xinhuan | and wowace's credibility would drop as an addon site |
| 12:47.19 | cncfanatics | in all that time nobody ever tried |
| 12:47.22 | nevcairiel | oh well, you can only create destructive code, nothing anyone else would gain from |
| 12:47.23 | cncfanatics | I don't see why it'd start now tbh |
| 12:47.28 | nevcairiel | guess thats why its not been done before |
| 12:47.29 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel |
| 12:47.32 | cncfanatics | tbh |
| 12:47.38 | cncfanatics | an addon that mails all ur money to someone |
| 12:47.44 | cncfanatics | nothing to be gained ? eh ? |
| 12:47.53 | Xinhuan | ya, what cnc said is totally doable |
| 12:48.01 | Orionshock | .... |
| 12:48.01 | Xinhuan | automailing all gold |
| 12:48.09 | Pkekyo| | "Comparing Photoshop to Paint is like comparing me to you. Obviously there is no need for comparison." rofl |
| 12:48.37 | cncfanatics | you could do check if a player is on the same server as you, if he is, make him mail all his gold to u as soon as he gets to a mailbox |
| 12:48.40 | cncfanatics | easy enough |
| 12:48.46 | cncfanatics | and he could never find out who he mailed it to |
| 12:48.58 | cncfanatics | or heck, be subtle |
| 12:49.00 | Xinhuan | or just make a "dlkjfldfk" player on ever server |
| 12:49.01 | cncfanatics | make it mail 50s |
| 12:49.05 | Ellipsis | is it possible to auto-accept the mail cash dialog? |
| 12:49.09 | Polarina | cncfanatics: Sending mail requires a secure frame. |
| 12:49.12 | Xinhuan | and hardcode it to that person |
| 12:49.32 | Polarina | Sending mail with money to someone requires a secure frame. |
| 12:49.33 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: it's just a static dialog popup |
| 12:49.39 | cncfanatics | Polarina, since ? |
| 12:49.47 | Polarina | cncfanatics: Always, I think. |
| 12:49.52 | cncfanatics | I highly doubt that |
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| 12:49.53 | Ellipsis | uh, no |
| 12:49.55 | Xinhuan | its not secure |
| 12:50.01 | cncfanatics | its just a static unsecure popup |
| 12:50.03 | Orionshock | Polarina: secure frames is a invention of 1.12 |
| 12:50.04 | Xinhuan | just like destroying an item isn't secure |
| 12:50.06 | cncfanatics | there you go |
| 12:50.21 | Xinhuan | nor is putting up items on ah secure |
| 12:50.30 | cncfanatics | so, supose |
| 12:50.33 | cncfanatics | you play on magheridon EU |
| 12:50.34 | Xinhuan | mass mailing addons work easily |
| 12:50.38 | cncfanatics | the most busy server in europe |
| 12:50.43 | cncfanatics | you hack fubar |
| 12:50.53 | cncfanatics | and make everyone mail 50s each time he opens his mailbox |
| 12:50.56 | cncfanatics | tbh, I wouldn't notice it personaly |
| 12:51.03 | Ellipsis | except for the sound |
| 12:51.04 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 12:51.05 | Orionshock | well that sort of "virus" is the type of thing that would make blizzard patch that sort of crap quickly and quietly |
| 12:51.09 | cncfanatics | and you would get rich |
| 12:51.15 | Xinhuan | Ellipsis, the sound can be overriden |
| 12:51.29 | Ellipsis | yeah, just saying it would be a little more work than a few lines of code to mail 50s to your alt |
| 12:51.30 | Xinhuan | by hooking the appropriate |
| 12:51.30 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 12:51.32 | Xinhuan | functions |
| 12:51.32 | cncfanatics | now I think about it |
| 12:51.38 | cncfanatics | add that code into a library |
| 12:51.40 | cncfanatics | not an addon |
| 12:51.45 | cncfanatics | there are plenty of unlocked library folders around |
| 12:51.58 | Xinhuan | i merely cited fubar as an example |
| 12:51.58 | Ackis | would vendor names need localization? I noticed there was vendor types which was localized, I'm just not sure if names would change between localizations or not |
| 12:52.07 | Xinhuan | because its market penetration is huge |
| 12:52.11 | Xinhuan | like omen |
| 12:52.20 | Ellipsis | threat lib would be a fun one |
| 12:52.33 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: me thinks that would be the fastest way to get yourself not only /kickBan'ed from here but also the SVN ... |
| 12:52.52 | Xinhuan | yes, but not before creating 500000 petitions to blizzard |
| 12:52.57 | Xinhuan | for all the issues caused |
| 12:53.13 | cncfanatics | Orionshock, I doubt any ace dev would want to do that |
| 12:53.22 | Orionshock | true |
| 12:53.23 | cncfanatics | but why not some random idiot that knows lua but has nothing to do with the addon world ? |
| 12:53.30 | cncfanatics | he requests an account, will get it |
| 12:53.33 | Xinhuan | gold farming companies |
| 12:53.35 | cncfanatics | doesn't care about being banned tbh |
| 12:53.37 | Xinhuan | request an account |
| 12:53.44 | Xinhuan | get gold sent to them |
| 12:53.48 | Ackis | I was thinking of adding something to my add-on so when friends used it, it called them a sack of dump... |
| 12:53.49 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 12:54.22 | Orionshock | i've been looking at the loadstring api... rather interesting... |
| 12:54.37 | Xinhuan | should i make a post about this? |
| 12:54.52 | Xinhuan | since i came up with it |
| 12:54.56 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:55.19 | Orionshock | plz give blizzard a reason to lock down what little part of the automated ui we have left.... |
| 12:55.22 | Orionshock | not! |
| 12:55.51 | cncfanatics | nobody has ever done it in all those years |
| 12:55.56 | cncfanatics | so no reason to start crying about it tbh |
| 12:56.17 | Xinhuan | it doesn't stop the fact there ARE talented programmers out ther in china |
| 12:56.24 | Xinhuan | that write addons to spam selling gold |
| 12:56.36 | Xinhuan | whats to stop them doing something malicious like this |
| 12:56.45 | cncfanatics | nothing tbh |
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| 12:57.07 | Thrae | And then there's gold-making guides out there which tell you to use Cartographer. |
| 12:57.10 | Xinhuan | remember a time when some programmer created 100 gnome corpses in IF? |
| 12:57.11 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: stop being so honest, geez, lie to me for once :P |
| 12:57.16 | Xinhuan | to spell out a gold selling site |
| 12:57.21 | Xinhuan | that was so good lol |
| 12:58.10 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 12:58.14 | cncfanatics | how long did it last Xunhuan ? |
| 12:58.22 | Xinhuan | i'm just pointing out that all it takes is one major event to happen, to make people lose faith in an addon site |
| 12:58.32 | Xinhuan | just like the uicentral virus |
| 12:58.36 | Xinhuan | trojan |
| 12:59.46 | cncfanatics | true, point taken |
| 13:00.01 | Droolio | as far as addons go, would it not be possible to create an addon that protects various destructive functions? |
| 13:00.01 | Xinhuan | well cncfanatics, some programmer managed to calc exact coordinates to make gnomes fly to IF, and drop from the ceiling to the floor to create a lot of corpses to spell out a site |
| 13:00.10 | Orionshock | anyone know if this was moved to the UI forum? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=D09DF0BCB60EE658CAFBC2438895B0EE?topicId=3268470679&sid=1 |
| 13:00.40 | Xinhuan | Droolio, not really, since those functions still need to be available to the default ui |
| 13:00.41 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, that would require stupidly much work |
| 13:00.41 | Droolio | i seem to recall some addon that forced confrimation after each talent learning for example |
| 13:00.44 | cncfanatics | but thats maths, not programming |
| 13:00.55 | Xinhuan | it requires both cnc |
| 13:01.04 | Droolio | but could you not put an extra confirmation hook to say sending monies? |
| 13:01.07 | Xinhuan | the programming to even hack gnomes to fly to a spot |
| 13:01.10 | Xinhuan | and suicide drop |
| 13:01.18 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how did he do that ? |
| 13:01.28 | nevcairiel | teleport hacks |
| 13:01.29 | Xinhuan | probably packet manipulation |
| 13:01.32 | nevcairiel | been done before |
| 13:02.00 | cncfanatics | tbh, what he did was not worth the bother |
| 13:02.05 | cncfanatics | if they can be bothered doing that |
| 13:02.14 | cncfanatics | then I really do wonder why they never tried mail hacks |
| 13:02.29 | nevcairiel | all they did was on their end |
| 13:02.30 | Xinhuan | that gnome corpse thing generated a lot of publicity |
| 13:02.41 | nevcairiel | they advertise and all |
| 13:02.46 | nevcairiel | never tried to hack anything |
| 13:02.51 | nevcairiel | at least the gold sellers |
| 13:03.03 | cncfanatics | packet manipulation can be seen as hacking tbh |
| 13:03.10 | nevcairiel | but not hacking the players |
| 13:03.27 | vhaarr | making addons is hacking |
| 13:04.02 | Xinhuan | does kaelten's new svn system have more strict committing permissions? |
| 13:04.14 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:04.24 | nevcairiel | every authot can restrict access to his addon |
| 13:04.27 | nevcairiel | *author |
| 13:04.29 | cncfanatics | get it up asap ? :p |
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| 13:04.42 | cncfanatics | I just don't like the sound of how this could go :/ |
| 13:04.51 | Xinhuan | all we heard was a "soon" 3 months ago |
| 13:05.20 | nevcairiel | he was really busy with work and the deadline of the book |
| 13:05.31 | Ozguli | hmm |
| 13:05.38 | Xinhuan | still its been 3-4 months |
| 13:05.40 | nevcairiel | once thats done, i guess we'll once again here more of that |
| 13:05.41 | Ozguli | my atlas fails to load any loot tables |
| 13:05.46 | Ozguli | atlasloot* |
| 13:06.54 | Droolio | Oz: you have all the atlasloot modules installed as well? |
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| 13:07.03 | Xinhuan | i don't think ill make any post i guess |
| 13:07.07 | Ozguli | of course I do |
| 13:07.17 | Xinhuan | all i expect to get as replies would prob be "a new svn system is in the works" |
| 13:07.38 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, making a post about it would inspire peeps tbh |
| 13:07.42 | cncfanatics | and not do anything positive |
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| 13:08.00 | Pkekyo| | why the flying fuck does autobar have shouts and stances all of a sudden? |
| 13:08.16 | nevcairiel | because its broken |
| 13:08.20 | Diao | someone asked |
| 13:08.22 | Xinhuan | its trying to take over the world |
| 13:08.23 | Diao | for it to be put in |
| 13:08.28 | Orionshock | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3268470679&postId=32345009317&sid=1#21 |
| 13:08.29 | Diao | i don't know why |
| 13:08.34 | Droolio | autobar is the next windows start button... |
| 13:09.04 | Xinhuan | oh god imagine autobar starting to create a "start button" to access every other detected addon |
| 13:09.14 | Orionshock | lol |
| 13:09.24 | Xinhuan | one button each in its "programs" menu |
| 13:09.28 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: doesn't rock config allready do that? :p |
| 13:09.36 | Xinhuan | yes but lol |
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| 13:09.50 | cncfanatics | rock is dead tbh |
| 13:09.52 | Xinhuan | this would bring it up one new level |
| 13:10.01 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: o'rly? elaborate? |
| 13:10.08 | cncfanatics | it hasn't got a commit since months ? |
| 13:10.21 | Pkekyo| | because only ck uses it? :) |
| 13:10.22 | Xinhuan | not exactly cnc... do you forsee yourself rewriting fb2 to ace3? |
| 13:10.32 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, yes |
| 13:10.41 | Xinhuan | p.s. start early |
| 13:10.44 | Pkekyo| | irc + ogri'la bombing quest is a bad combination >.< |
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| 13:11.09 | cncfanatics | heh Xinhuan, why is that ? |
| 13:11.20 | Xinhuan | doesn't hurt to start early |
| 13:11.34 | Orionshock | ... tbh.... i foresee WoW ... to taper off and for it to disappear with in 2 years |
| 13:11.35 | Xinhuan | aguf and many others have started a while ago |
| 13:12.15 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, you know everquest is releasing another expansion rihgt? :) |
| 13:12.29 | Orionshock | .... evercrack? |
| 13:12.37 | Xinhuan | thats what i heard |
| 13:13.28 | cncfanatics | everquest, didnt that die ages ago ? :p |
| 13:13.33 | thul | evercrack |
| 13:13.40 | thul | asherons cracke |
| 13:13.42 | thul | etc |
| 13:13.43 | thul | ultimo crack :-P |
| 13:13.56 | Xinhuan | if its dead there wouldn't be another expansion, would there? hehe |
| 13:14.12 | nevcairiel | i dont think wow will die in the next 2 years |
| 13:14.17 | nevcairiel | it may shrink a bit back |
| 13:14.19 | nevcairiel | but not die |
| 13:14.24 | Orionshock | mmo's are like a revolving door, in one side and out the other 6months later... |
| 13:14.41 | thul | I've been playing wow since it came out :-P |
| 13:15.14 | Xinhuan | 9.3 mil subsribers |
| 13:16.33 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: that many wow accounts? |
| 13:16.35 | Orionshock | meh... i'll also give it a year before addons in general settle down on about 12 - 15 of them in total that cover everything needed in a general way... and everything else will be half assed |
| 13:16.41 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 13:16.57 | Xinhuan | the latest pdf released by the activision/blizzard merger |
| 13:17.08 | Pkekyo| | well, should remeber atleast 500k are chinese goldfarmers |
| 13:17.10 | Xinhuan | said there are 9.3 mil active subscibers |
| 13:17.28 | Xinhuan | and "more than 2000 GMs" working 24/7 |
| 13:17.36 | Xinhuan | so take 9.3m/2000 |
| 13:17.41 | Pkekyo| | I call bullshit on that statement |
| 13:17.46 | Xinhuan | lua> 4650 |
| 13:17.46 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 4650 |
| 13:17.53 | Xinhuan | thats the player:gm ratio |
| 13:18.17 | Orionshock | lol |
| 13:18.23 | Orionshock | no wonder they are back loged |
| 13:18.26 | Xinhuan | http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/13/131/131837/items/271940/ActivisionBlizzard_Final.pdf |
| 13:18.29 | Pkekyo| | if they've got 2k GMs, it shouldn't take more than 24hrs ingame for a GM to come around |
| 13:18.31 | Xinhuan | feel free to look |
| 13:18.50 | Xinhuan | they have 2k gms in multiple shifts |
| 13:19.03 | Xinhuan | so i'll expect only 700 to be working at any one time? |
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| 13:19.21 | Xinhuan | assuming 8 hour shifts |
| 13:19.22 | nevcairiel | it always depends on the nature of the ticket |
| 13:19.28 | Diao | 700 but across how many servers |
| 13:19.40 | nevcairiel | some tickets get faster response |
| 13:19.41 | Diao | cause there's wow, wow-eu, wow-cn, wow-kr, wow-tw? |
| 13:19.42 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: care to elaborate? |
| 13:19.43 | Xinhuan | they have specialist GMs etc, certain GMs only answer certain types of tickets |
| 13:20.04 | Xinhuan | like some deal with harassment, some deal with item restoration |
| 13:20.08 | thul | you have to take account all the mages that ask "WHY CANNITNOTT WEAR 2H SWORDS KTXHPLZZZ??!!" |
| 13:20.10 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: if someone is stuck and cant continue playing, you get a fast response .. if you miss-assigned a item .. well you can wait :P |
| 13:20.45 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: posted a ticket when a ZA boss got bugged for my guild....after about 40hrs, I got a mailed standard response >.< |
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| 13:21.03 | nevcairiel | i bet some GM saw the ticket already |
| 13:21.21 | nevcairiel | and was like "cant fix it anyway - forwarding to team leader" :P |
| 13:21.26 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
| 13:22.02 | Orionshock | lol |
| 13:22.22 | Orionshock | have any of you actualy worked the customer service jobs for a high population company? |
| 13:22.53 | cncfanatics | I have |
| 13:23.01 | nevcairiel | i am a developer, i dont work the support |
| 13:23.02 | cncfanatics | american express customer service, phone |
| 13:23.16 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: that ... dosn't count :P |
| 13:23.31 | cncfanatics | and why is that ? |
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| 13:23.43 | Orionshock | um... |
| 13:23.45 | Orionshock | well... |
| 13:23.47 | Orionshock | eh... |
| 13:23.53 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 13:23.57 | Orionshock | because i said so? |
| 13:24.11 | cncfanatics | right |
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| 13:24.13 | Orionshock | :D |
| 13:24.13 | cncfanatics | I guess ur wrong |
| 13:24.15 | Diao | lol |
| 13:24.18 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: ofcourse we haven't |
| 13:25.51 | cncfanatics | I have, so his point is nil :p |
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| 13:26.05 | Orionshock | because your forgetting that customer service jobs are to some degree what one might call "agent choice", and it happens more often than you think... where the rep your talking to will screw you over because he feels like it |
| 13:26.33 | Orionshock | and then turn arround and deal with some one else with the exact same problem and fix them right up with 1st class service |
| 13:27.05 | Pkekyo| | basicly, customer service workers are cunts? |
| 13:27.14 | Orionshock | well ... |
| 13:27.16 | Orionshock | ya |
| 13:27.22 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 13:27.23 | cncfanatics | agree there |
| 13:27.24 | Orionshock | i know i do that to people all day long |
| 13:27.33 | cncfanatics | I don't like your name, fuck off |
| 13:27.34 | cncfanatics | next |
| 13:27.48 | Xinhuan | phone conversations aren't recorded are they? in customer service |
| 13:27.52 | Pkekyo| | and this is why I never call customer service |
| 13:27.55 | Xinhuan | unlike in wow, they are all recorded in text |
| 13:28.01 | Orionshock | given 2 people with the exact same problem, depending on how nice the person is i'll either fix them or fuck em over |
| 13:28.03 | cncfanatics | they are at american express |
| 13:28.10 | cncfanatics | dunno for other companies |
| 13:28.49 | Orionshock | btw .... anyone live in SBC land? |
| 13:29.19 | cncfanatics | SBC ? |
| 13:29.35 | Orionshock | ~AT&T |
| 13:29.36 | purl | methinks at&t is the devil. |
| 13:29.42 | Orionshock | lol |
| 13:29.46 | Orionshock | ~SBC |
| 13:30.01 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.08 | Orionshock | it's a US ISP |
| 13:30.19 | thul | hmm, can i make grid do pets? |
| 13:30.28 | Orionshock | thul: forums, search |
| 13:30.40 | Orionshock | try it, it'll change the way you think about the forums... |
| 13:31.40 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 13:31.51 | Orionshock | oh wow ... my next comment was really really mean... |
| 13:32.24 | thul | well, search forums, ask irc |
| 13:32.28 | thul | potato, potato |
| 13:34.00 | Orionshock | ..in that case |
| 13:34.01 | thul | and the wowace forum site is fucking up my safari :-( |
| 13:34.04 | thul | asshatscripts. |
| 13:34.25 | thul | so even if i wanted to read the grid-for-pet thread, it would take me like a month |
| 13:34.29 | Orionshock | it wasn't going to change anything really , just disillusion you into realizing that your not the first one to ask that question for the 100'th time... |
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| 13:35.12 | Orionshock | thul: Fire Fox |
| 13:35.14 | Orionshock | try it |
| 13:35.20 | thul | neh |
| 13:35.25 | thul | i don't like firefox. |
| 13:35.29 | thul | i don't like opera either |
| 13:35.31 | thul | i do like safari :-) |
| 13:35.39 | Pkekyo| | burn |
| 13:35.41 | thul | (and people that code their sites good :-( ) |
| 13:35.49 | CIA-12 | 03mokhtar * r56724 10GridDynamicLayout/GridDynamicLayout.toc: |
| 13:35.49 | CIA-12 | GridDynamicLayout: |
| 13:35.49 | CIA-12 | - Set metadata for wiki |
| 13:35.55 | Orionshock | well... suck an egg and have a day :P |
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| 13:36.18 | Orionshock | night everyone |
| 13:36.27 | thul | well, I'll make bacon and eggs soon |
| 13:36.29 | thul | if that counts :-D |
| 13:36.51 | thul | and i DID search btw, on EJ-forums (which isn't fucking up safari :-P ) |
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| 13:40.00 | Pkekyo| | l2opera tbh |
| 13:41.13 | thul | i don't like opera |
| 13:41.22 | thul | opera's ctrl-f (apple-f) is retarded. |
| 13:43.13 | Pkekyo| | howso? |
| 13:45.00 | Pkekyo| | also: if you only base your selection of browser on it's find-function, you're gonna get screwed over either way |
| 13:45.13 | thul | neh |
| 13:45.25 | thul | I study law, studying law is about finding spesific stuff in laaaarge amounts of text |
| 13:45.33 | thul | an effective search function is _very_ important to me |
| 13:46.31 | thul | safari 3 (beta) has an amazing ctrl-f, made me switch from firefox, which is second best:) |
| 13:46.51 | Pkekyo| | what's so great about it? |
| 13:47.06 | thul | you have to try it :-) |
| 13:47.12 | thul | first of all, it is not pop-up-windowish |
| 13:47.21 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r56725 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBars.lua Bar.lua Bartender4.lua): Bartender4: use plugins to merge options together |
| 13:47.30 | thul | it is like firefoxes, a bottom bar |
| 13:48.13 | thul | secondly, it doesen't highlight only what you search, it also fades the rest of the text, easy and simple, and the functionality is just.. good. |
| 13:48.45 | Pkekyo| | so basicly, it's a bottom bar and it reverse-highlights...? |
| 13:49.54 | thul | well, basically, you don't have an irritating and useless popup, you have a very nice and usable (top) bar, and it is userfriendly :-) |
| 13:50.01 | thul | opera on the other hand is a nightmare :-( |
| 13:50.23 | Pkekyo| | howso? |
| 13:50.34 | thul | popup. |
| 13:50.48 | thul | in the way, irritating if I want to find several different words after each other etc. |
| 13:50.52 | Pkekyo| | the popup window isn't even CLOSE to the text area here |
| 13:51.18 | thul | pop-up solutions = bad solutions |
| 13:51.23 | thul | integrated solutions = good solutions :-D |
| 13:51.25 | Pkekyo| | thul: it does find 'several different words after each other' |
| 13:52.08 | thul | ofc, just not as simple and elegant |
| 13:52.22 | thul | i cand find words in notepad too |
| 13:52.26 | Pkekyo| | how many ways is there to find several words after each other? >.< |
| 13:52.27 | thul | but comparing it to vim is still useless :-) |
| 13:52.39 | thul | vim = safari, notepad = opera |
| 13:52.39 | thul | nuff said :-D |
| 13:52.57 | Pkekyo| | meh, I'm not even gonna start... |
| 13:53.50 | thul | exactly ;-) |
| 13:53.56 | thul | opera makes me cringe, safari makes me sing lovsongs |
| 13:53.57 | thul | that's life |
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| 14:31.05 | Antiarc | So, I play on an RP server |
| 14:31.14 | Antiarc | And a guy whispers a guiklmate of mine last night |
| 14:31.22 | Antiarc | Asking if it was a "serious RP server" |
| 14:31.33 | Antiarc | My guildmate had him convinced that you could get banned for running in Stormwind |
| 14:31.53 | Antiarc | "Yeah, it's pretty serious. You have to watch the speed limit in Stormwind." |
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| 14:33.26 | thul | hmm :-P |
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| 14:39.52 | Slazher-Zoso | i was wondering if anyone could help me with a question. what is the cmd to identify the frame currently under the cursor? |
| 14:42.41 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.56 | kenlyric | is what I found on the forums, dunno if it's true. |
| 14:43.25 | Slazher-Zoso | thanks alot |
| 14:43.28 | haste | /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) -- if you don't want a box in the middle of your screen for each time you run it |
| 14:43.44 | kenlyric | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=388089965&sid=1 |
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| 14:45.12 | haste | why does he give 3x the same macro, just slightly modified each time |
| 14:46.36 | haste | also, that macro requires the frame to snatch the mouse foucs, which not all frames do |
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| 15:25.44 | Ceresi | HAI |
| 15:25.49 | Ceresi | I has question. |
| 15:26.07 | Ceresi | Can I ask question? |
| 15:26.44 | dylanm | No one do the damn ~asktoask thing. |
| 15:26.44 | Ceresi | I suppose the better question is, is anybody awake to answer my question? |
| 15:27.03 | Antiarc | Nope, I'm sleep-IRCing |
| 15:27.06 | Ceresi | Kay. |
| 15:27.12 | Ceresi | I'll do it anyway. |
| 15:27.20 | Pkekyo| | about bloody time |
| 15:27.22 | dylanm | Just do it. |
| 15:27.23 | Ceresi | Is there any documentation for ace console 2 up anywhere? |
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| 15:27.32 | Ceresi | the wiki page seems damn useless. |
| 15:27.33 | dylanm | Documentation lollllll |
| 15:27.37 | Ceresi | :( |
| 15:27.42 | Ceresi | I was hoping for an easy out. |
| 15:27.55 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConsole-2.0 doesn't work for you? |
| 15:28.24 | Antiarc | What are you trying to do with it, specifically? |
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| 15:28.32 | Ceresi | it's not very.... extensive |
| 15:28.52 | Ceresi | I'm a noob and was trying to see exactly what I could do with it. :P |
| 15:28.59 | dylanm | Read the souuuurce. |
| 15:29.06 | Antiarc | You can uh |
| 15:29.09 | Antiarc | Print things, mostly |
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| 15:29.13 | Ceresi | :P |
| 15:29.15 | Antiarc | And register slash commands |
| 15:29.16 | Ceresi | I guessed that. |
| 15:29.18 | dylanm | The source does not lie. |
| 15:29.18 | Ceresi | Right |
| 15:29.22 | charon | morning |
| 15:29.25 | Ceresi | I wanted more on registering slash commands |
| 15:29.58 | charon | is there a gui way to send all herbalism map notes to another player? i can't seem to find it.. the normal right-click menu on the map notes only lets me send that single note which is kinda silly |
| 15:30.13 | charon | with cartographer_herbalism that is |
| 15:30.39 | dylanm | Ceresi: One thing to do is look at one of the many addons that uses it... that's about all there is in the way of extra documentation. |
| 15:30.46 | Ceresi | From what I've seen from using addons and what the little "omg ace tutorial" thing, there's a few ways to register slash commands to do different things. The tutorial only allowed me to figure out one |
| 15:30.48 | Ceresi | Oh, okay |
| 15:30.52 | Antiarc | The generic usage is addon:RegisterChatCommand("/command", optionsTable, optionalNameForSlashCommand) |
| 15:30.54 | Antiarc | Like Omen:RegisterChatCommand({"/omen"}, options, "OMEN") |
| 15:31.15 | Ceresi | But what are the thingies for the options table? |
| 15:31.21 | Ceresi | I'll go look at my addons folder, don't answer |
| 15:31.51 | Antiarc | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/OmenMenu.lua <-- Omen's options table and chat command registration |
| 15:31.56 | Antiarc | Granted, not the simplest example :P |
| 15:32.47 | Ceresi | I should be able to figure it out from there and a few dozen minutes of banging my head against the wall in frustration |
| 15:34.22 | mort | -o t depleted mace |
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| 15:44.16 | Chompers | so Antiarc, have you made any further progress in BT? |
| 15:44.27 | Antiarc | We've put BT on hold while we work on Archimonde |
| 15:44.43 | Chompers | oh right |
| 15:44.59 | Chompers | everyone got the pvp trinket for him? |
| 15:45.34 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 15:49.27 | thul | hmm, does warriors use execute in pve? |
| 15:49.51 | Xinhuan | is that a trick question? |
| 15:51.10 | Ceresi | I hope so |
| 15:52.02 | sb_ | we did archimonde in 2 days :o |
| 15:53.13 | Xinhuan | hmm does normal text mail without attachments cost 30 copper to send? |
| 15:53.43 | vhaarr | thul: not as often as you'd think |
| 15:53.48 | Chompers | execute below 20% thul |
| 15:54.09 | Chompers | and has cryect really quit wow? |
| 15:54.15 | vhaarr | thul: as arms, for example, it might be better to go with standard rotation until the very last %, depending on the bosses total HP |
| 15:54.35 | Chompers | keep your slam rotation going if you're 2 handed |
| 15:54.39 | thul | ok |
| 15:54.42 | Chompers | execute if you're dual wield |
| 15:54.46 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 15:56.01 | Chompers | so about cryect, i really hope recount isnt completly abandoned |
| 15:56.09 | Chompers | love that addon |
| 15:56.31 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't worry about recount |
| 15:56.47 | thul | i love recount |
| 15:56.51 | Xinhuan | all combat log addons would have to be rewritten from scratch in 2.4 anyway |
| 15:56.59 | thul | right now, for instance, i can't decide about lvling as dw or as arms-2h |
| 15:57.06 | Xinhuan | so new and better damage meters will come out |
| 15:57.08 | thul | recount gives me the facts :-P |
| 15:57.09 | Chompers | oh of course, with the changes coming |
| 15:57.19 | vhaarr | I would level as arms |
| 15:57.43 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 15:57.43 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 15:57.46 | vhaarr | but it depends what weapons you have access to while leveling I guess |
| 15:57.55 | vhaarr | because you don't get a lot of hit rating on lower levels |
| 15:57.56 | nevcairiel | i've been leveling as fury, but i am not sure whats ebtter |
| 15:57.58 | thul | well, I'll get whirlwind axe now (at 3) |
| 15:58.03 | thul | but the 18% miss that i have with DW |
| 15:58.07 | Chompers | i'd level fury |
| 15:58.08 | Slazher-Zoso | level as fury till 40 |
| 15:58.09 | thul | is a bit.. punishing |
| 15:58.13 | Slazher-Zoso | then spec arms |
| 15:58.28 | Chompers | when you get the 2 handed polearm thing from av at 51, go arms |
| 15:58.31 | nevcairiel | i am 63 now |
| 15:58.33 | Chompers | then at 61 go fury again |
| 15:58.42 | Ceresi | level prot |
| 15:59.22 | nevcairiel | 63, like 5% hit now, dunno .. guess i could just try arms |
| 15:59.39 | thul | well, whirldwind axe is a bit superior to others stuff |
| 16:00.05 | Slazher-Zoso | dont bother respeccing at that level nev, you will be 70 in no time anyway :) |
| 16:00.24 | Chompers | its incredibly slow nev |
| 16:00.42 | nevcairiel | Slazher-Zoso: its not like respeccing costs me money, i am at 5g or something =P |
| 16:01.13 | Ceresi | Leveling as arms is really, really nice; imp slam is hacks with anything slowish |
| 16:01.44 | thul | hmm, isn't slam in fury? |
| 16:01.46 | thul | imp that is? |
| 16:01.49 | nevcairiel | i think i sold all good 2h weapons, guess i'll wait for the next quest to drop one and see |
| 16:01.50 | Ceresi | err |
| 16:01.51 | Ceresi | shh |
| 16:01.54 | thul | anyhow: i have to learn that every bg before 70 is for twinks :-P |
| 16:01.56 | Ceresi | leveling with a 2her |
| 16:02.25 | vhaarr | thul: you don't need imp. slam anyway, because as arms your 2h will be slower than 1.5sec swings |
| 16:02.39 | thul | true |
| 16:02.42 | thul | good point :-P |
| 16:02.43 | vhaarr | 3.0+ minimum |
| 16:02.55 | Slazher-Zoso | slam resets the swing timer |
| 16:02.59 | Ceresi | vhaar: isn't knocking a second off of the cast time good? |
| 16:02.59 | vhaarr | exactly |
| 16:03.04 | vhaarr | Ceresi: no |
| 16:03.09 | Chompers | you're an idiot if you dont have imp slam with your 2 hander and intend to pve |
| 16:03.09 | Ceresi | without imp slam, it's swing, then 1.5 seconds, then swing |
| 16:03.11 | Slazher-Zoso | so the faster you slam, the sooner your autoattack starts again |
| 16:03.17 | Ceresi | with imp slam, it's swing, .5 seconds, then swing |
| 16:03.41 | Ceresi | so you gain a second |
| 16:03.46 | Ceresi | I'm not sure that's useless |
| 16:03.47 | Slazher-Zoso | yup |
| 16:03.51 | vhaarr | I thought it kept swinging while casting Slam? |
| 16:03.55 | Slazher-Zoso | it doesnt |
| 16:03.58 | Chompers | aa,slam,ms - aa,slam,ww - aa,slam,bshout |
| 16:04.01 | vhaarr | aha, that changes stuff then |
| 16:04.01 | Chompers | something like that |
| 16:04.08 | vhaarr | nevermind, then it is useful :P |
| 16:04.09 | Slazher-Zoso | wich is also why you should slam right after an autoattack |
| 16:04.13 | Ceresi | yeah |
| 16:04.17 | Ceresi | right as the animation starts |
| 16:04.29 | Ceresi | you can get it to be casting as the autoattack hits if you're pro |
| 16:04.30 | vhaarr | thul: I was mistaken then, listen to these other guys |
| 16:04.41 | Ceresi | hey, i didn't know which tree it was in |
| 16:05.03 | Chompers | i've seen wws logs of slam warriors doing incredible dps |
| 16:05.13 | Slazher-Zoso | i dont think thats possible ceresi, only if you lag atleast :p |
| 16:05.31 | Ceresi | mebee |
| 16:06.05 | Ceresi | i get like 60 ms tho and I can get slam and the white hit to hit at the same time |
| 16:06.32 | Chompers | can backfire and you miss an autoattack |
| 16:06.40 | Chompers | screwing up the rotation |
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| 16:07.13 | Chompers | http://www.honorbound.se/Slamdps2.pdf |
| 16:07.20 | thul | vhaarr: ok! |
| 16:07.21 | thul | hmm |
| 16:07.25 | thul | but: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LAMzzA0o <- does that look ok for 30? |
| 16:10.22 | Ceresi | I'd go http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZVVzu0t |
| 16:10.26 | Ceresi | but that's like... un-arms |
| 16:11.14 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Idavoll <- quite similar to what i actually have now at 29 |
| 16:11.43 | thul | ah |
| 16:11.47 | thul | have not logged out since ding |
| 16:11.48 | Chompers | swap those enrage points for 5 in dual wield spec |
| 16:11.52 | Chompers | then go enrage |
| 16:12.04 | thul | even if I go big 2h? |
| 16:12.24 | Chompers | 2h sucks untill you can get mortal strike at 40 |
| 16:12.32 | Chompers | its so incredibly slooow |
| 16:12.51 | thul | well, slow != bad :-P |
| 16:13.30 | thul | or, that is my impression so far. |
| 16:13.39 | thul | just different, not bad. |
| 16:13.42 | thul | slower hits, but bigger hits |
| 16:13.51 | Chompers | so there's nothing we can say to make you go fury? |
| 16:14.07 | thul | well, I have tried dualwielding since 24 now |
| 16:14.10 | thul | and I am specced fury :-) |
| 16:14.17 | thul | i just don't know if I like it yet |
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| 18:02.21 | cladhaire | Who was looking for the list of CVars? |
| 18:02.55 | Fisker- | fuck blizzard :( |
| 18:03.02 | Fisker- | instance server crashed and we almost had jin'alai |
| 18:03.23 | Chompers | Fisker-, you pooped on Gagorian |
| 18:03.25 | Chompers | :< |
| 18:03.32 | Fisker- | yup |
| 18:03.33 | Fisker- | it was nice |
| 18:03.40 | Chompers | on the butt? |
| 18:03.46 | Chompers | and/or face |
| 18:03.51 | Chompers | what what |
| 18:04.59 | Fisker- | i shit in his butt |
| 18:05.01 | Fisker- | what what |
| 18:05.13 | cladhaire | Droolio: http://wowi.pastey.net/78680 |
| 18:05.24 | Gagorian | wth >_> |
| 18:05.43 | Chompers | oh Fisker- |
| 18:05.45 | cladhaire | That's a list of all CVars and their defaults. |
| 18:06.05 | Chompers | actually IN the butt, genius |
| 18:06.28 | cladhaire | Droolio: is that what you were looking for? |
| 18:07.30 | cladhaire | hrm actually there are duplicates there |
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| 18:07.32 | cladhaire | one moment. |
| 18:10.24 | charon | could you sort|uniq that? |
| 18:10.45 | haste | why not sort -u? |
| 18:11.00 | charon | habit |
| 18:11.02 | Gnarfoz | ~controlfreak |
| 18:11.04 | cladhaire | http://wowi.pastey.net/78681 |
| 18:11.13 | cladhaire | it wasn't in unix, that's why nub |
| 18:11.32 | charon | btw, does anyone else have the problem where all "horizon" terrain is plain white? |
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| 18:17.25 | charon | :( |
| 18:17.42 | charon | it's rather annoying when i'm tired... it's really, 100% pure blindingly white |
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| 18:23.48 | aestil | is there a way to make every addon with a char specific profile, use a new profile? |
| 18:24.10 | aestil | like a mod that forces all mods to switch to a new profile? |
| 18:24.16 | Zhinjio | not that I know of |
| 18:24.36 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc |
| 18:30.44 | aestil | so, i just went in, and named the profile of every mod 'test' |
| 18:30.47 | aestil | in the 'other' field. |
| 18:31.00 | aestil | that will leave the settings already set up for another character untouched, right? |
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| 18:34.45 | Zhinjio | aestil: correct. |
| 18:35.25 | aestil | ty. |
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| 18:39.38 | Fisker- | omg this is reality |
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| 18:47.34 | Droolio | cladhaire: cheers, how did you get that list btw? |
| 18:47.50 | cladhaire | Droolio: magic |
| 18:47.52 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:48.02 | cladhaire | using GetCvar() |
| 18:48.09 | Droolio | heh |
| 18:48.10 | cladhaire | GetCVar() and GetCVarDefault() |
| 18:48.25 | nevcairiel | bruteforce through all possible combinations of letters? :P |
| 18:48.29 | Droolio | hmm but how did you determine they exist in the first place? |
| 18:48.40 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: no, that would have taken too long |
| 18:48.47 | cladhaire | Droolio: I didn't.. i used GetCVar to determine if they existed... |
| 18:49.01 | cladhaire | off a list of potential cvars |
| 18:49.06 | Droolio | aha |
| 18:49.11 | Droolio | so there could be more? |
| 18:49.27 | cladhaire | no |
| 18:49.35 | cladhaire | there aren't, i'm extremely confident of that. |
| 18:49.42 | cladhaire | that is a comprehensive list |
| 18:49.42 | nevcairiel | probably on a list of datamined strings *shrug |
| 18:50.07 | Droolio | okey |
| 18:50.26 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 18:51.06 | cladhaire | there are also 478 game events |
| 18:51.09 | cladhaire | in case you were curious |
| 18:51.49 | Droolio | CVAR_UPDATE? |
| 18:53.07 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 18:53.14 | cladhaire | I'm saying, there are 478 different game events |
| 18:53.24 | Droolio | ah i was just wondering if u got them via that event |
| 18:53.29 | cladhaire | completely unrelated |
| 18:53.50 | cladhaire | no i didn't |
| 18:53.51 | cladhaire | i told you |
| 18:53.55 | cladhaire | i got them using GetCVar() |
| 18:54.00 | cladhaire | pcall it witha value |
| 18:54.09 | cladhaire | if the first return value is false, then its not a valid cvar |
| 18:54.17 | cladhaire | if its anything other than false, then its a cvar |
| 18:54.30 | Droolio | yes but the initial list... |
| 18:54.38 | cladhaire | is obtained from strings |
| 18:54.46 | cladhaire | on the executable |
| 18:54.48 | Droolio | from the exe? |
| 18:54.49 | cladhaire | strings - specifically |
| 18:54.50 | Droolio | kk |
| 18:54.59 | cladhaire | but you have to filter that, and convert it properly to get it in the game |
| 18:55.01 | cladhaire | its excessive |
| 18:55.04 | Droolio | aye |
| 18:55.09 | cladhaire | btu takes less than 5 seconds to get the resolts. |
| 18:55.11 | cladhaire | results. |
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| 18:57.02 | Droolio | excellent. will update that wowwiki i think then... |
| 18:58.30 | cladhaire | have fun :P |
| 18:58.41 | Droolio | will do :) |
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| 19:05.25 | Lothaer | whats the exe file in oRA2 for??? |
| 19:06.27 | Fisker- | HOLY MOTHER OF GOD |
| 19:06.30 | Droolio | is there one? |
| 19:06.36 | Lothaer | ora2lod |
| 19:06.37 | Fisker- | why do we have a druid with tree form and doesn't use it? |
| 19:06.50 | Droolio | Lothaer: it's a batch file? |
| 19:07.05 | Lothaer | which is what? |
| 19:07.21 | Droolio | a .bat not .exe |
| 19:07.29 | Lothaer | difference? |
| 19:07.55 | ulic | .bat is a script, .exe is a compiled app |
| 19:07.57 | Droolio | the batch is just a script |
| 19:08.33 | Droolio | open it with notepad - you'll see it's pretty harmless and has a purpose |
| 19:08.34 | Lothaer | so whats it do exactly? its it nessassary or can it be deleted? |
| 19:08.59 | ulic | it just makes portions of it more load on demand |
| 19:09.00 | Droolio | i gather it moves some folders around to make it load-on-demand |
| 19:09.27 | Lothaer | kk thanks mate great work on Nauticus too peace |
| 19:09.32 | ulic | just like bigwigs, littlewigs, quartz, pitbull and many many other addons that have .bat and .sh files |
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| 19:22.16 | Civrock | Hmm, SpamMeNot or SpamSentry? |
| 19:22.42 | Ozguli | spamsentry works fine for me |
| 19:24.50 | Arrowmaster | wasnt SpamMeNot the one that did all the really bad hooking? |
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| 19:25.43 | Civrock | [2007/12/08 14:24:17-292-x1]: SpamMeNot-1.015\Main.lua:211: Cannot find a library instance of DrWho-1.0. |
| 19:25.56 | Civrock | >_> |
| 19:26.21 | Civrock | SpamSentry installs WhoLib, SpamMeNot doesn't. |
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| 19:29.13 | fridgid | <Wobin> fridgid: omg |
| 19:29.13 | fridgid | <Wobin> you didn't quit =P <----- wha? |
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| 19:31.41 | Korben | hi |
| 19:31.52 | Fisker- | this warlock is fucking awesome |
| 19:31.57 | Fisker- | "I'm out of shards" |
| 19:32.04 | Korben | I have a question about Fubar |
| 19:32.06 | Fisker- | "Didn't you farm shards on the way here?" |
| 19:32.17 | Fisker- | "Yeah i did, but i used them all to pop SoC with Shadowburn" |
| 19:32.18 | Fisker- | ... |
| 19:32.18 | Korben | after using the install thing setting in fubar reset ? |
| 19:45.51 | RaydenUni | any of you heard of Dunbar's Number? |
| 19:46.28 | ulic | sounds familiar, but I couldn't tell you why. |
| 19:46.36 | RaydenUni | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number |
| 19:46.49 | RaydenUni | Dunbar's number, which is 150, represents a theoretical maximum number of individuals with whom a set of people can maintain a social relationship, the kind of relationship that goes with knowing who each person is and how each person relates socially to every other person. |
| 19:47.11 | RaydenUni | turns out most succesful raiding guilds are about 150 members |
| 19:49.42 | aestil | isn't nihilum like 26 people? |
| 19:50.44 | ulic | 150 seems a bit high for 25-man's, assuming of course that 150 doesn't count alts, becasue then Dunbar's Number wouldn't apply. |
| 19:51.18 | aestil | we have over 200, but its mostly like people who have no hope of raiding, and i think that number includes a crap ton of alts, so i bet our actual number is down around 100. |
| 19:51.28 | aestil | with maybe 35 - 40 people who expect to raid. |
| 19:51.36 | aestil | and only like 20 that are scheduled for every raid. |
| 19:52.07 | RaydenUni | nihilum has a little over 200 characters |
| 19:52.12 | RaydenUni | no idea how many are alts |
| 19:52.39 | RaydenUni | and i haven't gotten this far in my paper, but of the 150, you really only "know" 12-15 people |
| 19:52.59 | Korben | anyone have a issue with Fubar_clockfu ? |
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| 19:53.17 | RaydenUni | which makes sense why 10 man dungeons are popular |
| 19:53.41 | RaydenUni | how many "succesful" guilds have more than 150 people? |
| 19:54.35 | Korben | 150 peeps |
| 19:54.37 | Korben | my god |
| 19:54.41 | Korben | thats alot |
| 19:55.38 | Zhinjio | we have 137 in our guild. |
| 19:55.51 | Zhinjio | and we're a few short of doing 25 mans regularly. |
| 19:55.55 | Korben | my old pre tbc guild had 140 with alts |
| 19:55.58 | Zhinjio | but we're also a more casual raiding guild. |
| 19:56.08 | Zhinjio | 137 accounts, 282 toons |
| 19:56.15 | aestil | how are 10 man dungeons more popular? by what measure do you say they are more popular? that there are more people doing them? |
| 19:56.19 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 19:56.22 | aestil | its also easier to do 10 mans vs. 25 mans. |
| 19:56.28 | Zhinjio | of course |
| 19:56.39 | Zhinjio | less coordination at minimum. |
| 19:56.41 | aestil | obviously, fewer people will have the skill/organazation/schedule needed to do 25 mans. |
| 19:56.50 | RaydenUni | maybe it's just my enthusiasm at more 10 mans vs more 25 mans |
| 19:57.02 | Korben | current guild 53 accounts 76 toons |
| 19:57.12 | RaydenUni | aestil but i think there is more to it than just increased complexity |
| 19:57.28 | RaydenUni | Dunbar's Number is saying there is this ~150 number encoded into humans |
| 19:57.39 | RaydenUni | i really need to find where the 12-15 is mentioned |
| 19:57.48 | RaydenUni | cause right now i'm just pulling it out of nowhere |
| 19:58.04 | RaydenUni | but i think the idea is that 25 is more than humans will naturally want to coordinate things |
| 19:58.12 | RaydenUni | so we have to impose more strict rules on the community |
| 19:58.22 | RaydenUni | perhaps DKP or loot rules are an example |
| 19:58.30 | RaydenUni | do many guilds have loot rules for 10 mans? |
| 19:58.40 | aestil | we don't have loot rules for 25 mans. |
| 19:58.47 | aestil | its loot council + /roll |
| 19:58.55 | RaydenUni | is that typical? |
| 19:59.01 | aestil | i dunno. |
| 19:59.14 | aestil | we aren't uber. learning archimonde at teh time. very casual type of guild. |
| 20:00.06 | RaydenUni | Panserbjørn (armoured bear in Danish and Norwegian) |
| 20:00.12 | RaydenUni | they should have named the ZA mount that |
| 20:00.17 | RaydenUni | i saw it yesterday btw |
| 20:00.29 | RaydenUni | the guy stole my lvl 12 character's rare mob kill |
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| 20:02.53 | RaydenUni | but anyways, i bring this up because i just started a fascinating class on Online Identities |
| 20:03.12 | RaydenUni | the professor plays WoW in a guild with a bunch of other academics in the field |
| 20:03.19 | RaydenUni | a bunch of famous people |
| 20:04.09 | aestil | does mongoose strike trigger GCD? |
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| 20:07.21 | aestil | woah, baggins made it so that you can have more than one catergory per row? |
| 20:07.47 | RaydenUni | yeah... |
| 20:08.01 | RaydenUni | you still can't swap "rows" though |
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| 20:08.31 | Korben | is rock removed from Fubar ? |
| 20:09.09 | RaydenUni | http://popcosmo.org/?p=20 |
| 20:10.58 | RaydenUni | dangit i can't find Constance Steinkuehler's wow character name |
| 20:11.18 | RaydenUni | all i know is she plays an undead holy priest? |
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| 20:13.20 | ulic | Korben: Rock is just a framework, and I'm pretty sure Fubar still uses it. |
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| 20:19.40 | Korben | ok ulic i just cant see the button for it |
| 20:19.50 | Korben | i know it was something else called before |
| 20:20.18 | Korben | was nice to configure other ace addons with out typing :P |
| 20:20.42 | ulic | try /rock then you can find the options to make the button show back up if you want to |
| 20:20.58 | Korben | no command found |
| 20:21.00 | aestil | can you have pitbull show a group as a raid? |
| 20:22.10 | Ellipsis | whoa hey it's an aestil |
| 20:22.38 | aestil | you ignored me for too long Ellipsis, fail. |
| 20:22.47 | Ellipsis | I nevar ignored you |
| 20:22.54 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 20:25.40 | aestil | liez. |
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| 20:28.13 | Aenslaed | does anyone know a good raid frame with pet support? |
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| 20:28.24 | Aenslaed | idk if sraidframes is gonna have it |
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| 20:31.38 | dylanm | Kind of a lot to ask with all the information you're already displaying. I imagine it would be possible with PitBull. |
| 20:32.02 | RaydenUni | anyone interested in discussing WoW as the third place? |
| 20:32.13 | dylanm | I believe X-Perl can do raid pets. |
| 20:32.23 | dylanm | Third place what? |
| 20:32.35 | RaydenUni | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place |
| 20:32.43 | RaydenUni | "The Third Place" is a term used in the concept of community building to refer to social surroundings separate from the two usual social environments of home and the workplace. In his influential book The Great, Good Place, Ray Oldenburg argues that third places are important for civil society, democracy, civic engagement, and establishing feelings of a sense of place. |
| 20:32.53 | RaydenUni | the pub, or in our world, Starbucks |
| 20:33.03 | dylanm | Pub is better imo. |
| 20:33.05 | RaydenUni | a place for people to congregate and socialize outside of your home and work |
| 20:33.25 | RaydenUni | people will go to starbucks, get their coffee, sit down and read a book and never talk to anyone |
| 20:33.34 | RaydenUni | when asked why they go they will tell you that they wanted to be around people |
| 20:33.54 | RaydenUni | there are arguments that online communities (including WoW) are the modern third places |
| 20:34.29 | RaydenUni | not only that, but something like WoW gives us an activity to do with a large group of people |
| 20:34.34 | RaydenUni | we no longer have hunting parties |
| 20:34.46 | RaydenUni | so our choices are playing sports... or playing online in guilds |
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| 20:59.37 | aestil | where is the setting for resolution out of game? |
| 20:59.40 | jelousbuddy | has anyone ever shot infrared fire/energy from eyes? do you know if i do it or learned how to do it? are my eyes dangerous for glasses (ex windows)? |
| 21:00.13 | [dRaCo] | yes, |
| 21:01.10 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 21:01.14 | RaydenUni | merging with another guild... |
| 21:01.25 | aestil | i work at starbucks. |
| 21:01.32 | RaydenUni | aestil in the config.wtf i think |
| 21:01.55 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 21:01.58 | RaydenUni | config.wtf |
| 21:02.09 | RaydenUni | SET gxResolution "1680x1050" |
| 21:02.27 | RaydenUni | any suggestions for looking into merging with another guild? |
| 21:02.43 | RaydenUni | my guild has ten people who are lvl 10 so if we are missing one or two it makes doing our weekly KZ hard |
| 21:02.56 | RaydenUni | and i think just having more people would be helpful |
| 21:02.57 | [dRaCo] | /gdisband, /ginvite, done. |
| 21:03.17 | ulic | why not just recruit a few for your guild then? |
| 21:03.31 | RaydenUni | maybe |
| 21:03.48 | RaydenUni | i think it would be easier if we found another guild in a similar position |
| 21:03.55 | RaydenUni | have enough to do 2 KZ runs a week |
| 21:04.27 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 21:04.33 | RaydenUni | should probably discuss with the rest of the guild first |
| 21:04.46 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 21:04.48 | ulic | yea probably a good idea :) |
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| 21:05.21 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 21:05.28 | RaydenUni | the official realm forums are pretty nice |
| 21:05.33 | RaydenUni | i've never spent much time on the forums |
| 21:07.22 | jelousbuddy | if i move my eyes does fire starts? or do i instant transmission some kind of fire energy so things can burn up? does my pupil has anything to do with letting too much fire out? do i control fire with my pupil? |
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| 21:07.38 | Sole | good morning |
| 21:07.45 | Sole | how is everyone today? |
| 21:10.50 | RaydenUni | fine |
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| 21:11.03 | RaydenUni | you? |
| 21:16.33 | RaydenUni | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271120397&sid=1 <-- wtf? |
| 21:16.47 | Fisker- | old |
| 21:16.49 | Fisker- | also didn't work .< |
| 21:18.12 | RaydenUni | what's the story behind it then? |
| 21:18.46 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 21:19.25 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 21:19.45 | RaydenUni | this paper suggests that you could kill of a game by persuading all guild leaders to switch to your game simultaneously |
| 21:19.51 | RaydenUni | give them free accounts or whatever |
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| 21:24.15 | jelousbuddy | what would happen if there is a hidden camera in my room or your room? |
| 21:24.27 | [dRaCo] | yes. |
| 21:26.21 | RaydenUni | this priest is 0/61/0 |
| 21:27.11 | RaydenUni | i dislike the violet eye rep quest |
| 21:27.25 | RaydenUni | i can't think of any other instance where you have a choice that is completely final |
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| 21:28.00 | Ellipsis | you can switch violet eye rings at exalted |
| 21:28.08 | RaydenUni | really? |
| 21:28.13 | [dRaCo] | aye |
| 21:28.13 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 21:28.19 | RaydenUni | at will? |
| 21:28.30 | [dRaCo] | yeah, costs you 25g though |
| 21:28.47 | jelousbuddy | are you stupid and is it cold and depressing outside when it has stopped snowing in January but snow is still on the ground? |
| 21:29.08 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 21:29.13 | RaydenUni | cause i mistakenly chose the healing one thinking the caster ring wasnt that great |
| 21:29.59 | Ellipsis | it isn't |
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| 21:30.21 | RaydenUni | i think it's one of the best spriest rings... |
| 21:30.22 | Ellipsis | aren't you a shadowpriest? |
| 21:30.27 | RaydenUni | i am |
| 21:30.33 | Ellipsis | there are way better |
| 21:30.45 | Ellipsis | you don't get much out of the crit |
| 21:31.18 | RaydenUni | yeah i guess it's not on the raid gear list |
| 21:31.21 | RaydenUni | http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=6594 |
| 21:31.28 | RaydenUni | for some reason i thought it was good... |
| 21:31.47 | RaydenUni | guess not |
| 21:32.18 | [dRaCo] | the CE exalted ring is pretty cool |
| 21:32.20 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56729 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 21:32.20 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib |
| 21:32.20 | CIA-12 | Versioning now uses $Rev: |
| 21:32.40 | jelousbuddy | any sexy girls/sexy women/sexy females here? |
| 21:32.55 | RaydenUni | me |
| 21:32.56 | [dRaCo] | nerd o0 |
| 21:33.18 | Ellipsis | I'm seconding the CE ring |
| 21:33.22 | *** kick/#wowace [jelousbuddy!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (There are women on irc? The hell you say.) |
| 21:33.27 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56730 10!AlarLib/!AlarLib.toc: |
| 21:33.27 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib |
| 21:33.27 | CIA-12 | Bumped version |
| 21:33.32 | RaydenUni | the CE ring is not on this list |
| 21:33.40 | [dRaCo] | it's great anyway |
| 21:33.46 | [dRaCo] | hit, dmg, stamina |
| 21:33.53 | [dRaCo] | what else would you want? |
| 21:33.58 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56731 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc AlarBGHelperFubar.lua): |
| 21:33.58 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 21:33.58 | CIA-12 | 3.1.0 |
| 21:33.58 | CIA-12 | Feature: AV Boss status is back |
| 21:33.58 | CIA-12 | Feature: Revamped panels. More intuitive and less invasive move/resize interface |
| 21:34.01 | Ellipsis | it's a nice way to get a dose of +hit without sacrificing an important piece |
| 21:34.02 | RaydenUni | link? |
| 21:34.16 | Ellipsis | !item ashyen's gift |
| 21:34.17 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Name: Ashyen's Gift; Rarity: Epic (Purple); BoP; Unique; Type: Ring; +30 Stamina; Requires L70; +21 HitSpellRating; Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 23.. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29172 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29172 ]] |
| 21:34.21 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56732 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): |
| 21:34.21 | CIA-12 | AlarAutomation |
| 21:34.21 | CIA-12 | 3.0.3 |
| 21:34.21 | CIA-12 | Fix: /aau attune was not working |
| 21:34.22 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau attune panel now rescales and resizes gracefully |
| 21:34.22 | kergoth | what are the top hunter pets, just considering dps? Ravager, cat, raptor, wind serpent? |
| 21:34.36 | RaydenUni | pretty lwo dmg for a spriest |
| 21:34.46 | RaydenUni | lots of hit though |
| 21:34.50 | Ellipsis | yes but 21 hit |
| 21:35.02 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56733 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc): |
| 21:35.02 | CIA-12 | AlarTTFrame |
| 21:35.02 | CIA-12 | 4.0.2 |
| 21:35.02 | CIA-12 | Feature: Upgraded embedded library |
| 21:35.04 | Ellipsis | most of the time you'll give up a lot more dmg to get that much hit |
| 21:35.06 | Dhraga | a question if anyone have the time, is it possible to put in a simple zone check before the AddMsg on line 486 in this VoidReaverAlarm http://ace.pastey.net/78690 (so that it only reports the pinger when your in the Tempest Keep instance) ? |
| 21:35.22 | RaydenUni | i have 144 hit right now |
| 21:35.27 | RaydenUni | maybe later on it will be useful |
| 21:35.41 | Ellipsis | um...yeah you need to get hit capped |
| 21:35.42 | [dRaCo] | most priests I know tend to rate 1 hit at 2 dmg, so that ring's got a smoking 65 dmg |
| 21:35.56 | Ellipsis | you _need_ that ring |
| 21:36.10 | RaydenUni | i am hit capped |
| 21:36.13 | RaydenUni | spriest need 77 to hit cap |
| 21:36.20 | Ellipsis | wtf hax? |
| 21:36.35 | RaydenUni | +15% hit from talent |
| 21:36.35 | Ellipsis | oh, right |
| 21:36.37 | Ellipsis | WTB your talents |
| 21:36.43 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 21:36.51 | RaydenUni | so i think i'm actually 3/5 or 4/5 on that talent |
| 21:37.43 | Wogroipl | ugh, can I change the font color in Pitbull? |
| 21:37.50 | Wogroipl | can't find it |
| 21:38.21 | Ellipsis | not globally |
| 21:38.34 | Wogroipl | individually then? |
| 21:39.04 | Ellipsis | yeah, just add a color tag to the dogtags |
| 21:39.05 | Wogroipl | I'd have to edit the dogtags right? |
| 21:39.18 | Wogroipl | gah, was hoping for nice sliders :s |
| 21:39.36 | Wogroipl | thanks anyway :) |
| 21:40.23 | Ellipsis | you can always use the sliders to figure out the hex code and then put that into a dogtag ^-^ |
| 21:46.34 | Sole | hmm |
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| 21:47.14 | Tool | I need help with wowaceupdater. I goto the download page and it says I am missing files that are needed to continue with the download and install. But it doesn't say what those files are that i'm missing. What should I do? |
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| 21:48.30 | ulic | ~wau2 |
| 21:48.31 | purl | wau2 is, like, http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 21:48.37 | ulic | it just needs java I believe |
| 21:48.57 | haste | become an hero |
| 21:49.13 | Tool | weird, I have java |
| 21:49.17 | Tool | it could just be a firefox issue |
| 21:49.45 | Tool | nooyah |
| 21:49.47 | Tool | booyah |
| 21:49.50 | Tool | tried it with IE 7.0 |
| 21:49.52 | Tool | and sure enough it worke |
| 21:50.13 | Tool | thank you ulic |
| 21:50.27 | Sole | I got mine through firefox |
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| 21:50.36 | Pkekyo| | mornin' a ll |
| 21:50.42 | Sole | hi2u |
| 21:50.47 | Pkekyo| | s/a ll/all/ |
| 21:51.00 | Pkekyo| | anything fun happening in the world of wowace? |
| 21:51.14 | Sole | the CGS 3v3 tournament is about to kick off |
| 21:51.16 | Sole | in like 10 minutes |
| 21:51.21 | Sole | that should be interesting to watch |
| 21:51.29 | Sole | live stream up at thecgs.com :) |
| 21:51.31 | RaydenUni | CGS? |
| 21:51.32 | Pkekyo| | CGS? |
| 21:51.40 | RaydenUni | that the CCG? |
| 21:51.44 | Sole | championship gaming series |
| 21:51.59 | Pkekyo| | Sole: arenas? |
| 21:52.02 | Sole | Pkekyo|: si |
| 21:52.06 | Pkekyo| | doh >.< |
| 21:52.06 | markm_ | has anyone added elite and/or class icons to pitbull? |
| 21:52.12 | Pkekyo| | was hoping for a fun game |
| 21:52.17 | Sole | haha |
| 21:52.26 | RaydenUni | site is down |
| 21:52.41 | Sole | RaydenUni: try delllounge.com then |
| 21:52.44 | RaydenUni | where is CGS taking place? |
| 21:53.01 | RaydenUni | Sony Studios Los Angeles |
| 21:53.04 | Sole | LA |
| 21:53.24 | Sole | this tournament came sorta out of nowhere |
| 21:53.34 | Sole | sorta like dreamhack |
| 21:54.00 | Ellipsis | dreamhack came out of nowhere? |
| 21:54.00 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 21:54.06 | Pkekyo| | dreamhack's been around for like...ever |
| 21:54.06 | Sole | the WoW invitations did |
| 21:54.10 | Sole | I know it has |
| 21:54.20 | Sole | the WoW teams only had like a week to prepare tho |
| 21:55.24 | RaydenUni | i want to see a game event that takes place over 3 days |
| 21:55.29 | RaydenUni | one game |
| 21:55.38 | RaydenUni | so your guild would have to manage sleeping and eating |
| 21:56.05 | Ellipsis | what do you mean, manage? |
| 21:56.15 | Ellipsis | most people would just go 3 days without sleeping or eating |
| 21:56.23 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 21:56.28 | Sole | lol |
| 21:56.31 | Sole | this is WoW we're talking about |
| 21:56.38 | RaydenUni | probably wouldn't be wow |
| 21:56.51 | RaydenUni | maybe you would have to limit each player to so many hours of playing |
| 21:56.54 | Sole | Ellipsis is right anyway :P |
| 21:56.56 | Pkekyo| | if you're able to play wow for 3 days without sleeping you've got serious problems |
| 21:57.08 | RaydenUni | my back gets sore after sitting that long |
| 21:57.09 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|, did you not play when TBC came out? :P |
| 21:57.11 | RaydenUni | well |
| 21:57.12 | RaydenUni | not that long |
| 21:57.14 | RaydenUni | never done that |
| 21:57.16 | RaydenUni | but after a while |
| 21:57.23 | Sole | Ive played for a day |
| 21:57.25 | Sole | and a night |
| 21:57.39 | Ellipsis | I actually developed a back problem in the week after TBC release because I was doing that x.x |
| 21:57.42 | RaydenUni | i've been to a LAN party that started friday night and ended monday |
| 21:57.51 | RaydenUni | but it was at a friend's house and we were just hanging out |
| 21:57.55 | Ellipsis | still get back pain to this day, but it was worth it |
| 21:57.56 | Sole | Ellipsis: and youve still got the back problem now? |
| 21:57.57 | RaydenUni | not every hour was gaming |
| 21:58.04 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 21:58.08 | Sole | lol |
| 21:58.15 | RaydenUni | my dad has a bad back |
| 21:58.18 | Sole | Ive got back pains but thats from playing rugby |
| 21:58.21 | RaydenUni | so i think i've inherited some of that |
| 21:58.33 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: I did.... why? |
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| 21:59.05 | Ellipsis | [1:58:44 pm] <Pkekyo|> if you're able to play wow for 3 days without sleeping you've got serious problems |
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| 21:59.12 | Ellipsis | most people did then... |
| 21:59.17 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: some of us got real life obligations :p |
| 21:59.20 | RaydenUni | "most" |
| 21:59.39 | Ellipsis | at least most of my guild |
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| 22:00.45 | Sole | lots of people were 70 before I was even 63 :( |
| 22:00.46 | lol_PT | Anyone who have made a script that can loop over players in a battlegroup and find the player with highest 2v2 rating? |
| 22:01.00 | RaydenUni | i hit 60 right when BC came out |
| 22:01.04 | Sole | lol_PT: Tattle should do that and that other one |
| 22:01.09 | RaydenUni | so i never got to run much lvl 60 stuff with my guild |
| 22:01.17 | Sole | the lvl 60 stuff was pretty cool |
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| 22:01.27 | Poul|Raider | tattle ??? sole |
| 22:01.28 | Sole | but it was mostly cool because of the people I was with |
| 22:01.44 | RaydenUni | i did BRD and Strat i think |
| 22:01.46 | RaydenUni | and that was it |
| 22:01.47 | RaydenUni | :( |
| 22:02.00 | RaydenUni | and BRD isn't really 60 |
| 22:02.00 | Sole | Poul|Raider: yah I haven't run it myself though so you'll have to ask someone else about it |
| 22:02.00 | Sole | hehe |
| 22:02.05 | Poul|Raider | was more, what is tattle? |
| 22:02.07 | Sole | I ran everything through to naxx |
| 22:02.12 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: took me months to get to 70 :p |
| 22:02.30 | Sole | server first horde nef kill too :) |
| 22:02.38 | Sole | caused so much drama it was awesome |
| 22:02.47 | RaydenUni | why? |
| 22:03.00 | Sole | because blackrock had a lot of raiding guilds back then |
| 22:03.14 | Sole | who all talked a lot of smack |
| 22:03.20 | Sole | and we were the "noob" guild |
| 22:03.27 | Keias | "take that medio!" |
| 22:03.36 | Sole | more like the elite :P |
| 22:03.43 | Sole | those guys couldnt swallow it |
| 22:03.50 | Sole | medio has always been 2nd rate :P |
| 22:03.54 | Keias | lol |
| 22:04.01 | Keias | I've never had any problems with them |
| 22:04.10 | Sole | meh assholes back then and assholes now |
| 22:04.18 | Poul|Raider | sole, what is tattle? |
| 22:04.31 | Keias | Tattle is an addon that updates weekly with Arena info |
| 22:04.36 | Keias | Team ratings, specs, members, etc |
| 22:04.48 | Sole | I got into a BF heroic group with them and said I might DC for a minute during hte run because my ISP was having problems...one of the medio guys said he had to boot me then |
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| 22:05.24 | RaydenUni | what is the BG this weekend? |
| 22:05.32 | Sole | AB? |
| 22:05.36 | Keias | Yeah |
| 22:05.51 | Poul|Raider | sole, wasent a addon i was looking for, just a script since armory aint updatet |
| 22:05.52 | RaydenUni | might have to play |
| 22:05.57 | Pkekyo| | anyone know the eu Kazzak server? |
| 22:05.59 | RaydenUni | last week was WSG which wasn't helpful for getting honor |
| 22:06.04 | Sole | Poul|Raider: tattle is a script not an addon |
| 22:06.17 | Poul|Raider | oki |
| 22:06.19 | Sole | WSG is amazing for honor |
| 22:06.25 | Sole | you just need a premade |
| 22:06.28 | theoddone33 | it's AB |
| 22:06.30 | Orionshock | Sole: Poul|Raider , it's both and addon and it has a dataminer script |
| 22:06.36 | theoddone33 | wsg is hard even with a premade |
| 22:06.38 | Sole | Orionshock: yeah true that |
| 22:06.41 | Pkekyo| | wsg is a fucking joke... 45 minutes to get two flac captures |
| 22:06.47 | Sole | hmm |
| 22:06.58 | Orionshock | play horde, WSG goes faster :P |
| 22:07.04 | theoddone33 | ab and eye are brilliant with good premades |
| 22:07.05 | Poul|Raider | sole, able to give a link? |
| 22:07.07 | Sole | the premades Im in run at 5 mins a game |
| 22:07.13 | Sole | Poul|Raider: use the svn maybe |
| 22:07.29 | Sole | hang on I'll get it |
| 22:07.33 | Tool | Question: I just want the basics of cartographer, what should I download? |
| 22:07.44 | Sole | Poul|Raider: http://files.wowace.com/Tattle/Tattle.zip |
| 22:07.45 | Orionshock | Poul|Raider: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Tattle/dataminer.lua |
| 22:07.46 | aestil | cartographer? |
| 22:07.47 | Poul|Raider | Orionshock, sole, aint it out there on the net to run direct somehow, just to get rank in a battlegroun based on personal rating and not team rating(since its not updated) |
| 22:07.55 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 22:08.19 | Sole | Poul|Raider: not sure, I mightve seen something like that |
| 22:09.51 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.09 | Sole | it does |
| 22:10.18 | Sole | gladiator uses tattle data to get team rating |
| 22:10.53 | Civrock | Is the Tattle data ever gonna get updated again? |
| 22:11.02 | Primak | hmmm |
| 22:11.12 | Primak | I got cartographer to work except now the way point arrow doesnt show up |
| 22:11.16 | Sole | tattle gets updated by some people |
| 22:11.27 | Civrock | Used to, but hasn't in weeks. |
| 22:11.39 | Sole | thats because its a bitch to update :P |
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| 22:11.55 | Civrock | Tried to a few times but I have a Mac and I've been unable to figure out how to. |
| 22:12.49 | Poul|Raider | Orionshock, should i just run the .bat file in tattle to update data? |
| 22:12.59 | Orionshock | no |
| 22:13.24 | Orionshock | you need lua5.1 and luasocket |
| 22:15.17 | Poul|Raider | ok, gotta wait then at a netcafe |
| 22:15.46 | Orionshock | bother are rather small and require no install |
| 22:15.57 | Orionshock | but it takes 45mins a battlegroup |
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| 22:21.28 | aestil | is 2.3.2 coming soon? |
| 22:25.49 | Poul|Raider | Orionshock, ye but will wait to getting home to my own pc instead of installing it on a pc down here |
| 22:26.19 | Orionshock | you don't really "install" it ... |
| 22:26.24 | Aenslaed | Is there a way in grid to add a pet group?? |
| 22:35.56 | aestil | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271069568&postId=32336916072&sid=1#632 |
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| 22:38.16 | Maaads | Hi i got a fubar question |
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| 22:38.22 | aestil | ~ask to ask |
| 22:38.23 | purl | Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! Omit any irrelevant details. If nobody answers then we don't know or are busy for a few minutes. Wait and don't bug us. If you must ask again wait until new people have joined the channel. |
| 22:38.55 | break19 | what about asking to ask to ask? |
| 22:39.24 | Maaads | when you detach the panel and move it around, men you let go of the button it allways resets horizontaly |
| 22:39.33 | Maaads | when* |
| 22:39.53 | aestil | Maaads: men on the mind eh? |
| 22:40.13 | Maaads | men= when.. typo |
| 22:40.23 | break19 | i figured he was talkin about food.. men you.. |
| 22:40.41 | break19 | maads exactly what are you trying to do? |
| 22:41.27 | break19 | "My friend Steve went to work at a chocolate factory" "Yea.. he's a fudge packer.." |
| 22:41.41 | break19 | heh, wrong channel.. lol |
| 22:41.50 | Diao | o_o |
| 22:41.53 | Maaads | im trying to place my fubar so it fits with the rest of my ui.. |
| 22:42.11 | Maaads | you can move where you want verticaly but not horizontaly? |
| 22:42.12 | break19 | .. tradin lame jokes with my little sis's hubby in IM. lol |
| 22:42.31 | break19 | Maaads: yea.. you can.. grab the left, or right edge of the bar and "shrink" it |
| 22:42.48 | Maaads | ahhh thanks alot |
| 22:42.53 | break19 | np |
| 22:47.07 | Fisker- | man i'm glad this shammy left our guild |
| 22:47.29 | Fisker- | somehow he got on some zul'aman team i'm with as well |
| 22:47.47 | Fisker- | and he ankhed when we said to all run in |
| 22:47.53 | Fisker- | then he said scouts were inc |
| 22:47.59 | Fisker- | put down an earthbind totem |
| 22:48.07 | Fisker- | and aggroed the scout as we came, as well as another |
| 22:48.09 | Fisker- | yays |
| 22:48.28 | Maaads | i hate those scouts |
| 22:48.45 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 22:50.11 | Fisker- | they're simply a retarded idea |
| 22:50.26 | Fisker- | fun the first time, annoying the second time |
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| 22:52.22 | Fisker- | sigh |
| 22:52.39 | Fisker- | fucking scouts |
| 22:52.59 | theoddone33 | za is alright |
| 22:53.06 | theoddone33 | we're stumped on lynx and dragonhawk though |
| 22:53.09 | theoddone33 | others are easy |
| 22:53.32 | theoddone33 | it's a nice change of pace |
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| 22:54.33 | TiGGaH | Hi! Could someone help me with addon related problem. The problem shows itself as a game freeze. Mostly this happens when combat is ended resulting in 1-5 second freeze. Also when trying to open spellbook, map or even inspecting players, this freeze happens. Is there some way to begin the hunt other than disabling each addon on at the time. Thought first it would be Parrot which causes this. |
| 22:54.36 | theoddone33 | it's really slipping my mind, what's the gear swapping ace mod called? |
| 22:54.54 | Fisker- | closetgnome |
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| 22:54.59 | TiGGaH | Outfitter |
| 22:55.25 | Diao | sounds like garbage collection TiGGaH |
| 22:55.30 | Diao | are you using recap by chance |
| 22:55.37 | TiGGaH | recount |
| 22:56.00 | Ellipsis | just sounds like a slow computer to me |
| 22:56.09 | Diao | hm |
| 22:56.15 | Diao | cause recap had an option to gc after every combat |
| 22:56.30 | TiGGaH | it's not slow computer. dual core + 2GB ram |
| 22:56.41 | pprovost | Howdy friends. Long time no see. |
| 22:57.07 | TiGGaH | diao, is there way to scrap this garbage collection manually? |
| 22:57.25 | Ellipsis | then yeah, just disable addons til you find the culprit |
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| 22:58.07 | TiGGaH | really weird an annoying 'bug' |
| 22:58.15 | TiGGaH | but yes, have to dig in deeper |
| 22:58.22 | Ellipsis | it sounds like most of those freezes are when frames are repositioned |
| 22:58.22 | Diao | just do binary search with addon disable |
| 22:58.54 | TiGGaH | it came after wowace update, so it's some ace addon |
| 22:59.17 | Ellipsis | check which addons were updated? |
| 22:59.23 | TiGGaH | found one addon that caused the freeze when ppl joined raid: YssGridLayout |
| 22:59.28 | Fisker- | can i hide the "Release spirit" box? |
| 23:00.18 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 23:00.20 | Fisker- | i found out |
| 23:00.21 | Fisker- | cause i rule |
| 23:00.23 | Fisker- | and you suck |
| 23:00.36 | Fisker- | and i got a hex stick out of it |
| 23:00.49 | [AR]Camci | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x0_5LbYgec |
| 23:00.55 | TiGGaH | might be something to do with the frames, ellipsis |
| 23:00.55 | [AR]Camci | ahahahahahaha |
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| 23:01.22 | TiGGaH | i'll start with disabling frames addons, see how it goes from there |
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| 23:13.15 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56734 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: |
| 23:13.15 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib |
| 23:13.15 | CIA-12 | Still fiddling with addom intracommunication |
| 23:14.02 | Diao | damned bg9 alliance! |
| 23:14.07 | Diao | there is only 1 av running |
| 23:14.08 | Diao | :( |
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| 23:14.43 | Diao | 1 hour 45 min wait |
| 23:14.47 | Diao | that is ridiculous |
| 23:18.34 | Sole | hmm |
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| 23:18.41 | Sole | the WoW spectator client has some nice unit frames |
| 23:18.47 | Sole | theyre simple :) |
| 23:20.32 | Diao | spectator client? |
| 23:22.02 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56735 10AlarAutomation/AlarAutomation.toc: |
| 23:22.02 | CIA-12 | AlarAutomation |
| 23:22.02 | CIA-12 | Fixed Revision number |
| 23:22.04 | Guardix | the client they use at tournaments i suppose |
| 23:22.32 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56736 10AlarBGHelper/AlarBGHelper.toc: |
| 23:22.32 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 23:22.32 | CIA-12 | Fixed revision number |
| 23:23.13 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56737 10AlarTTFrame/AlarTTFrame.toc: |
| 23:23.13 | CIA-12 | AlarTTFrame |
| 23:23.13 | CIA-12 | Fixed Revision number |
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| 23:28.35 | Sole | yeah the client they use at tournaments |
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| 23:31.09 | Diao | ah |
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| 23:39.28 | Keias | Any screenshots of it uploaded anywhere? |
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| 23:45.57 | CIA-12 | 03jncl * r56738 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:45.57 | CIA-12 | Skinner: Skinned Guild_Log (thanks to Fowkes) |
| 23:45.57 | CIA-12 | - Updated Ash_DoTimers, Ash_Cooldowns, AckisRecipeList, AucAdvanced skins |
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| 23:55.07 | Pkekyo| | wtb screenshot of tournament spectator UI |
| 23:55.14 | Sole_ | thecgs.com |
| 23:55.20 | Sole_ | you'll see it when the match starts |
| 23:56.04 | CIA-12 | 03joshborke 07Beta * r56739 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: Ace3: don't forget to set the handler at the root of the options table in AceConfigDialog |
| 23:58.14 | Pkekyo| | looks like some slightly modified xperls with ToT and ToTT frames |
| 23:59.39 | Pkekyo| | what are the rules like in that tournament? |
