| 00:00.19 | sb_ | no addons ;) |
| 00:01.06 | Pkekyo| | hear alot of swapping out characters...more than three players/team? |
| 00:01.12 | Sole_ | no |
| 00:01.15 | Sole_ | 3 players per team |
| 00:01.20 | Sole_ | but they're allowed to swap classes |
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| 00:01.40 | Sole_ | so it places heavier emphasis on player skill and being able to play multiple classes |
| 00:01.59 | Pkekyo| | Sole_: premade chars? |
| 00:02.08 | Sole_ | Pkekyo|: of course |
| 00:02.15 | Sole_ | Pkekyo|: its an offline tournament :P |
| 00:02.34 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 00:03.13 | CIA-12 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56740 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua RaidCast_Config.lua): RaidCast: options mostly complete, now to work on functionality |
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| 00:03.48 | aestil | raid cast? |
| 00:03.54 | aestil | like clickcasting? |
| 00:04.20 | JoshBorke | it'll be raid cast bars |
| 00:04.30 | JoshBorke | configurable anchors for different kinds of casts on different targets |
| 00:04.35 | aestil | like dorje's? |
| 00:04.44 | JoshBorke | never used dorje's |
| 00:05.07 | JoshBorke | but i believe to be similar, yes |
| 00:05.36 | sb_ | mhh i dont think so |
| 00:05.52 | JoshBorke | just more configurable |
| 00:06.04 | sb_ | more like xperl raid casting stuff? :o |
| 00:06.12 | JoshBorke | haven't seen xperl raid casting stuff |
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| 00:06.38 | sb_ | JoshBorke: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8867/castingmonitorbk3.png |
| 00:06.45 | sb_ | (ripped from movie :/) |
| 00:06.53 | JoshBorke | yes, i think so |
| 00:07.00 | JoshBorke | except, not that ugly... |
| 00:07.15 | JoshBorke | i can't quite tell what is going on |
| 00:07.21 | JoshBorke | is it spell on left, target on right? |
| 00:07.28 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorke: raid castbars? |
| 00:07.35 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: yes |
| 00:07.35 | break19 | meh, bad rogue.. bad.. left your healer. lol |
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| 00:09.17 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorke: showing who in raid is casting what at all times? |
| 00:09.28 | RaydenUni | druid at lvl 26 is fun |
| 00:09.29 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: configurably, yes |
| 00:09.31 | RaydenUni | just finished BFD |
| 00:09.36 | RaydenUni | i was the healer |
| 00:09.39 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: but only casted spells, not instant cast |
| 00:09.55 | Pkekyo| | sounds interesting |
| 00:09.55 | RaydenUni | 80% of the time i dps'd, 15% of the time i healed, 5% of the time i tanked |
| 00:10.11 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: i hope it works well |
| 00:10.16 | JoshBorke | i'm being lazy and not populating any spell data |
| 00:10.29 | JoshBorke | so people who change their locales can go to hell |
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| 00:12.47 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: it'll hopefully support bandaging also :-D |
| 00:13.17 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorke: sweet, now everyone can see me raidhealing when not tanking :p |
| 00:13.31 | JoshBorke | exactly! |
| 00:13.59 | Pkekyo| | pewpew bandage powah |
| 00:14.13 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorkeso people who change their locales can go to hell <---- huh? |
| 00:14.40 | JoshBorke | JoshBorke: i'm storing locale specific information in the saved variables table |
| 00:14.49 | JoshBorke | wtf did i just talk to myself? |
| 00:15.12 | Pkekyo| | yes you did |
| 00:15.16 | Pkekyo| | crazyman :> |
| 00:15.41 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: you can filter the cast bars by spell/class and you can combine filters together per each anchor you define |
| 00:15.53 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: to generate the spells you can filter on, i just save up all the casted spells |
| 00:16.33 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 00:16.41 | harldephin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLLxvjGKDI8 |
| 00:16.55 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: so if you change locale you chaneg spell names and fubar it |
| 00:17.27 | RaydenUni | anyone else think that pvp stuff costs too many marks at low levels? |
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| 00:18.56 | harldephin | RaydenUni: definitely yes |
| 00:19.04 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: imo, they cost too many marks in general :p |
| 00:19.12 | break19 | heh |
| 00:19.12 | RaydenUni | well |
| 00:19.22 | RaydenUni | at lvl 70 it costs WAY longer to get 25000 honor than 20 marks |
| 00:19.25 | RaydenUni | but at lvl 19? |
| 00:19.28 | Pkekyo| | hms...blizzard should give hunter pets the ability to wear armor |
| 00:19.33 | Mudkipz | ... |
| 00:19.35 | RaydenUni | or 29 which is where i did most of my bg |
| 00:19.40 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: give up on twinklands... |
| 00:19.46 | break19 | my wife's huntard has all the honor she needs to get 2 or 3 of her lvl 70 pieces, but nowhere near enough marks.. |
| 00:19.49 | RaydenUni | i have 2-3x the honor i need for the gear by the time i get the marks |
| 00:19.55 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo| what if i just want to get the gear for leveling? |
| 00:20.13 | Sole | I level too fast for the gear to be useful |
| 00:20.14 | RaydenUni | i didn't find the time to get marks at lvl 70 to be hard at all |
| 00:20.25 | RaydenUni | i have enough marks for 2 bg and only 2/5 of the honor for my weapon |
| 00:20.39 | RaydenUni | sole but if it was easier to get those items |
| 00:20.41 | break19 | didnt say it was hard.. just she is a friggin honor sponge.. |
| 00:20.54 | Sole | oh yeah |
| 00:21.08 | khangg | what's an addon that one of you guys couldn't live without with? |
| 00:21.17 | RaydenUni | just one? |
| 00:21.22 | RaydenUni | fubar |
| 00:21.23 | break19 | if we bg together, she winds up with more HKs and more Honor, and the whole time goin "god I suck.. you need to teach me to play" "wtf? you're doin better than me!" |
| 00:21.28 | RaydenUni | although fubar alone is worthless |
| 00:21.29 | charon | just one? omen :) |
| 00:21.35 | khangg | RaydenUni, i guess a list wouldnt' hurt :P |
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| 00:22.01 | RaydenUni | fubar, bartender, pitbull, omen, classtimer, quartz |
| 00:22.05 | break19 | meh |
| 00:22.40 | charon | khangg: i'd add Grid and Prat but otherwise, more or less the same |
| 00:22.45 | break19 | fubar, auctioneer, bongos, quartz, prat |
| 00:22.56 | RaydenUni | bongos? for spell bar? |
| 00:23.01 | break19 | bongos > bartender |
| 00:23.02 | Pkekyo| | blizzard's cinematics are incredible :) |
| 00:23.10 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo| is just discovering this now |
| 00:23.19 | khangg | i dont like bongos |
| 00:23.20 | RaydenUni | unlike the rest of us who discovered in when Starcraft cameout |
| 00:23.22 | sb_ | break19: mh - why? |
| 00:23.57 | Industrial | woot Sem Schild wins K1 2007, first fighter to have won K1 three times in a row! |
| 00:24.05 | break19 | faster, less CPU time. |
| 00:24.08 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: nah, I known it for long...just felt like making a remark about it as I just saw the wow and tbc cinematics :) |
| 00:24.34 | charon | khangg: oh and add Recount |
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| 00:24.52 | RaydenUni | recount is certainly awesome |
| 00:24.55 | khangg | recount - dmg meter? |
| 00:24.56 | RaydenUni | but i could live without it |
| 00:24.58 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 00:24.59 | RaydenUni | the best one |
| 00:25.13 | khangg | i don't use a dmg meter, or omen |
| 00:25.14 | RaydenUni | i also didn't include arkinventory which is awesome, but not strictly necessary |
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| 00:25.20 | RaydenUni | what class do you play? |
| 00:25.23 | charon | it's not just a damage meter... it's more like a "what the hell just happened" meter |
| 00:25.24 | RaydenUni | and what evel? |
| 00:25.24 | khangg | well im stilling leveling |
| 00:25.33 | RaydenUni | at lvl 70 you NEED something like omen |
| 00:25.34 | khangg | and i'm a hunter |
| 00:25.36 | RaydenUni | imo |
| 00:25.41 | khangg | not if im pvping RaydenUni |
| 00:25.54 | RaydenUni | hmm, true |
| 00:26.34 | RaydenUni | as a spriest, simpleselfrebuff |
| 00:26.44 | RaydenUni | ooh lightheaded :) |
| 00:26.58 | khangg | lightheaded is on my list |
| 00:27.14 | break19 | oh ya.. tourguide |
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| 00:27.59 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 00:28.30 | Thelyna | RaydenUni: get Assessment - it does almost everything recount does without being horridly laggy in a raid |
| 00:28.54 | RaydenUni | it has all the nice charts? |
| 00:29.13 | break19 | no graphic charts, but has the same info, iirc |
| 00:29.22 | break19 | just not in a graphical format |
| 00:29.23 | Sole | tourguide still in branches? |
| 00:29.32 | charon | IMO the #1 winning feature of recount is the death backlog... does assessment do that? |
| 00:29.35 | break19 | sole: i dunno, I update mine from wowi |
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| 00:29.54 | Zhinjio | assessment does have a death count, yes |
| 00:30.01 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure what you mean bby backlog |
| 00:30.13 | charon | last N things that happened leading up to a player's death |
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| 00:30.22 | Thelyna | yeah, assessment does the last 15 seconds |
| 00:30.31 | Diao | swlog |
| 00:30.33 | Diao | ftw |
| 00:30.42 | Diao | and wws for full parsing |
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| 00:32.34 | break19 | 86753oh9 |
| 00:32.39 | break19 | meh |
| 00:32.51 | break19 | wtf does wow NOT take keyboard focus when it starts up? |
| 00:32.56 | sb_ | hm |
| 00:32.58 | sb_ | thats your password? |
| 00:33.03 | break19 | was :p |
| 00:33.08 | Gngsk | 8675sohthanksgiving |
| 00:33.21 | Gngsk | oops, 3 not s |
| 00:33.28 | break19 | does anyone else see the pattern there? ;p |
| 00:33.34 | break19 | its jenny's number |
| 00:33.44 | Xuerian | break |
| 00:33.47 | Xuerian | that's the second time you've done it |
| 00:33.56 | Gngsk | heh |
| 00:33.58 | break19 | I know |
| 00:34.00 | Xuerian | lol |
| 00:34.09 | break19 | thats why Im pissed that wow isnt taking the keyboard focus when I start it |
| 00:34.22 | Xuerian | perhaps you should change to no window instead of chat window :p |
| 00:34.31 | charon | perhaps the stars appear for a _reason_ after all |
| 00:34.34 | break19 | it pops up top, so I type my pw.. and.. somehow, its typed into this window which is running in the background |
| 00:35.04 | Gngsk | if you don't see stars, don't press enter! |
| 00:35.16 | break19 | I dont worry about stars.. my fingers "memorize" my pws.. I cant even say them without screwin up, but I can type them in 1-2secs with no typos unless a key doesnt get registered |
| 00:35.23 | Antiarc | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/140433.html |
| 00:35.32 | break19 | thats the thing, I've already hit enter by the time I see it. lol |
| 00:35.39 | break19 | no matter, it's already changed |
| 00:35.41 | Diao | do you play fullscreen |
| 00:35.42 | Diao | or window |
| 00:35.50 | break19 | both |
| 00:36.15 | Gngsk | add alt-tab into your login routine |
| 00:36.24 | Mudkipz | Antiarc |
| 00:36.31 | Mudkipz | I didn't know you were into that kind of stuff |
| 00:36.34 | Mudkipz | ;o |
| 00:36.47 | Xuerian | ROFL |
| 00:37.10 | Xuerian | That's wrong in a few levels |
| 00:37.20 | break19 | alt-tab wont do squat :p |
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| 00:38.55 | break19 | Diao: to further explain.. I start up in a window, if I'm bored and on IRC, but once the game loads and it's time to get to playing, I switch to fullscreen.. which.. Im gonna do now.. bbl |
| 00:39.06 | Diao | o_o |
| 00:39.11 | Diao | oh a mac |
| 00:39.16 | Diao | maybe that's why :p |
| 00:40.53 | Gngsk | maybe would be an understatement imo |
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| 00:55.26 | break19 | \rude - dont pick on my mac. the point of a PC is to tinker.. I dont -want- to tinker, I've tinkered for 20 years.. I just want to USE the damn thing now, k? |
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| 01:01.37 | Zhinjio | what was the banked items addon that xinhuan was working on that would do guildbank stuff? |
| 01:01.42 | Zhinjio | bankitem or item bank or something? |
| 01:01.59 | Diao | yea |
| 01:02.01 | Diao | bankitems |
| 01:03.33 | Silowyi | I'd like to stop using Atlas since I already have Cartographer. Does anyone know if Atlas Loot has to have Atlas? |
| 01:03.48 | Diao | it doesn't |
| 01:03.49 | Silowyi | alternatively, if there's a good, frequently updated loot addon for cart. |
| 01:04.07 | Diao | hasn't, for a while |
| 01:04.11 | Silowyi | cool... atlas, gone! |
| 01:09.34 | Sole_ | hmm |
| 01:10.21 | Sole_ | is there a way to tell when someone uses the pvp trinket? |
| 01:10.29 | Sole_ | it appears as if there is no combat log event |
| 01:11.04 | Diao | it's an instant cast that removes debuffs |
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| 01:12.52 | Sole | hm |
| 01:12.53 | Silowyi | BT/Hyjal have any backflagging drops? |
| 01:13.01 | Sole | so what are you proposing diao |
| 01:13.05 | Kemayo | Silowyi: Cartographer has built in loot stuff, I thought. |
| 01:13.19 | Sole | track debuffs and when they're removed before their endTime is up then the player has used a pvp trinket? |
| 01:13.32 | Shadowed | Sole, and what do you plan on doing about BOP and BOF |
| 01:13.38 | Diao | scan for debuff removal without an associated dispel |
| 01:13.41 | Diao | that ends early? |
| 01:13.50 | Shadowed | or other damage for things that are disorients like gouge, repetence and chastwhatever |
| 01:14.02 | Sole | yeh thats what Im saying shadowed |
| 01:14.08 | Shadowed | It's not realistic to do |
| 01:14.12 | Sole | I cant see a reliable way to track pvp trinket |
| 01:14.13 | Diao | there's too much to scan for |
| 01:14.15 | Shadowed | Maybe with 2.4, but not now |
| 01:14.20 | Shadowed | It's not about how much there is to scan |
| 01:14.25 | Shadowed | it's about figuring out what removed it |
| 01:14.25 | Sole | btw SSArena is really nice |
| 01:14.28 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 01:14.39 | Silowyi | reminds me I need to update SSPvP |
| 01:15.11 | Diao | sspvp2! |
| 01:15.19 | Silowyi | is there an sspvp2? |
| 01:15.22 | Diao | yep |
| 01:15.24 | Shadowed | it's beta, but yes |
| 01:15.40 | Diao | wish it had visual bars instead of numerical timers, but that's just an aesthetics thing |
| 01:15.42 | Silowyi | which is recommended? beta v2 or current stable? |
| 01:15.54 | Shadowed | beta v2 is basically stable at this point, you're better off using that |
| 01:16.00 | Silowyi | kk |
| 01:16.20 | Shadowed | the reason it doesn't use visual bars is because they use too much space, and they look horribly when displaying non-timer types of data like match information |
| 01:16.24 | Silowyi | sspvp2 include the features of ssarena? |
| 01:16.35 | Shadowed | no SSAF is seperate from SSPVP2, SSPVP2 is just a recode |
| 01:16.42 | Silowyi | k |
| 01:16.43 | Shadowed | er, they look horribly* |
| 01:16.44 | [AR]Camci | and sspvp2 is wha? |
| 01:16.45 | Diao | oh |
| 01:16.45 | Shadowed | horrible! |
| 01:16.47 | Diao | btw Shadowed |
| 01:17.05 | Silowyi | does sspvp2 gracefully replace sspvp or do you have to delete junk? |
| 01:17.06 | Diao | what's with ssaf not adding new units in combat :( |
| 01:17.12 | Diao | like it doesn't add them at all |
| 01:17.30 | Diao | have to drop combat somehow and mouseover the opponent for the frame to appear |
| 01:18.23 | Shadowed | The other AFs don't actually add units in combat, they add fake frames but you can't actually target them. |
| 01:18.37 | Shadowed | silentium, you have to delete the SSPVP/ folder |
| 01:19.10 | Shadowed | Unless it becomes highly requested I'm not adding fake frames, because they're a pain in the ass and cause confusion mostly |
| 01:19.11 | Diao | yeah i know |
| 01:19.13 | Diao | oh |
| 01:19.26 | Diao | but they add fake frames that get turned into real frames after combat is dropped |
| 01:19.28 | Silowyi | might could have it auto-add the frames the next time you drop ooc though |
| 01:19.32 | Shadowed | So does SSAF Diao |
| 01:19.38 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:19.42 | Diao | mine must be bbugged |
| 01:19.50 | Shadowed | If it finds a new enemy in combat, it queues it for the next time you're OOC |
| 01:20.06 | Diao | yeah i think mine's bugged |
| 01:20.21 | Diao | cause sometimes i'll mouseover someone in combat or a party member will report it with their ssaf |
| 01:20.25 | Diao | and the frame doesn't appear if i drop combat |
| 01:20.31 | Diao | unless i actually mouseover them myself |
| 01:21.00 | Diao | i'll try a fresh reinstall |
| 01:21.45 | Shadowed | and just checked, theres no way to actually see if they used PVP trinket |
| 01:21.50 | Shadowed | short of estimations |
| 01:23.03 | Shadowed | Their may have used to be a way since it was showing "You gain immunity blah blah", but that was removed a while back |
| 01:24.20 | Silowyi | Tempest Keep seems to be naturally sophoric |
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| 01:27.10 | RaydenUni | pitbull does this strange thing where it stops showing text on my party frames |
| 01:27.11 | Antiarc | Things that are, as the kids say, "for the lose": |
| 01:27.15 | RaydenUni | disabling and enabling them fixes it |
| 01:27.19 | Antiarc | Getting drunk and then going AFK while autorunning |
| 01:28.09 | RaydenUni | sophoric? |
| 01:36.30 | Diao | soporific or sophomoric are the closest words i can think of |
| 01:36.39 | Diao | one meaning makes you drowsy and the other meaning immature :P |
| 01:36.54 | RaydenUni | i cant find a definition of sophoric on google |
| 01:37.33 | Diao | lol |
| 01:37.41 | Diao | well i don't know of any other words that would be similar |
| 01:37.47 | Diao | and i generally have a pretty decent vocabulary |
| 01:37.54 | Gngsk | sophmoric? |
| 01:38.17 | Diao | sophomoric* |
| 01:38.17 | RaydenUni | euphoric? |
| 01:38.27 | sabe | fruit cake? |
| 01:39.51 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: the onyxia module for threat is sooo not working^^ |
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| 01:48.06 | Tinyboom | onyxia is soooo not working:p |
| 01:49.06 | Stanzilla | hm |
| 01:49.07 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 01:49.14 | Stanzilla | knockback calculation is wrong |
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| 01:59.47 | aestil | i want them to freaking release the 2.4 api ahead of the PTR. |
| 01:59.52 | aestil | im paranoid. |
| 02:00.04 | aestil | assesment/violation are pretty much garunteed to get fixed? |
| 02:02.00 | Diao | fixed? |
| 02:02.05 | Diao | oh |
| 02:02.08 | Diao | updated ot use the new api? |
| 02:02.10 | Diao | to* |
| 02:03.12 | Xuerian | The fun thing is Parser is going to need either a overhaul or a bus ticket |
| 02:03.53 | aestil | for sure. almost useless, why would we need parser libs if the UI is outputing events? |
| 02:04.12 | Xuerian | A friendlier api? I don't know, I haven't messed with the combat log |
| 02:04.41 | Xuerian | That's why I put option 2 :p |
| 02:05.20 | Xuerian | I do wish that all chat events were getting overhauled though, instead of just combat |
| 02:05.30 | Diao | you need a way to parse the events though |
| 02:05.38 | Diao | since it's sent by argument? |
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| 02:06.10 | Xuerian | Blizz just needs to impliment a sane event system |
| 02:06.19 | Diao | and a guid->unitname |
| 02:06.22 | Xuerian | Instead of relying on different frameworks to handle it |
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| 02:06.40 | Diao | if you can't associate guid to a specific unit it'll suck |
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| 02:06.57 | Xuerian | The way Iriel is talking, you won't be able to do it like that |
| 02:07.05 | Diao | :( |
| 02:07.21 | Xuerian | I guess there's a reason, but it seems kindof stupid overall |
| 02:07.28 | Diao | so no accurate omen threat track on same named mobs? |
| 02:07.54 | Antiarc | Xuerian: Link? |
| 02:08.20 | Xuerian | Well, Iriel said that it'll be easy to decipher different mobs from guid in combatlog, I'm not sure exactly what the meaning is, though |
| 02:08.26 | Xuerian | Antiarc: 2.4 changes thread in ui forum |
| 02:08.52 | Diao | oh |
| 02:09.38 | Xuerian | The no was GuidFromUnit() sort of funtionality |
| 02:11.03 | Xinhuan | he means |
| 02:11.08 | Xinhuan | from the combat log |
| 02:11.28 | Xinhuan | if a mob is inflicted with "curse of agony" in the combat log |
| 02:11.43 | Xinhuan | you can easily infer the corresponding in-game mob |
| 02:12.08 | Xinhuan | but other than thru inference, you won't get an api |
| 02:12.19 | Xuerian | Any idea why? |
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| 02:12.44 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 02:19.09 | Wobin | okay, who here pvps a lot in BGs |
| 02:19.39 | Wobin | we're trying to identify the icon between the skull and the alliance flag in this image http://images.gammatester.com/pics/fdf571dbe6d2c56427b7c1595c4cdeac.png |
| 02:20.21 | Daemona | wow have you seen this yet? |
| 02:20.24 | Daemona | http://youtube.com/watch?v=JPG9AJWtPE0 |
| 02:20.52 | Wobin | oh that's ... cool |
| 02:24.29 | Xinhuan | don't think its a used icon wobin |
| 02:25.07 | dylanm | Kinda looks like a vulture |
| 02:25.40 | Wobin | I was thinking a tick |
| 02:25.53 | Wobin | but yeah, I can see the vultureyness |
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| 02:29.04 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r56742 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 02:29.04 | CIA-12 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 02:29.04 | CIA-12 | - koKR Update |
| 02:29.13 | Shadowed | Wobin, it's not used |
| 02:29.22 | Shadowed | nor is the one to the right |
| 02:30.11 | Wobin | well yes |
| 02:30.20 | Wobin | but can we figure out what it's supposed to represent? |
| 02:30.40 | Shadowed | dunno how you guys see a vulture in that |
| 02:30.41 | Droolio | the red claw-looking icon? |
| 02:30.44 | Wobin | yeah |
| 02:30.45 | Shadowed | simply looks like a skull |
| 02:30.56 | Shadowed | err |
| 02:31.00 | Droolio | isn't it like those creatures that burrow under the ground? |
| 02:31.05 | Shadowed | yea |
| 02:31.05 | Wobin | silithid? |
| 02:31.13 | Shadowed | the ones you see in HFP as well |
| 02:31.14 | RaydenUni | the penis mobs |
| 02:31.15 | Droolio | the ones in hellfire |
| 02:31.18 | Droolio | ye |
| 02:31.20 | Wobin | sand worms |
| 02:31.29 | RaydenUni | penis monsters |
| 02:32.36 | Shadowed | Dunno what it'd have been used for thought |
| 02:32.47 | Shadowed | given theres no blue/gray, red/gray, blue |
| 02:34.24 | Shadowed | Wobin, is that the file named specifically about battleground stuff or is it like a generic one? |
| 02:35.48 | Droolio | i think that's the minimap poi icons? |
| 02:36.42 | Shadowed | well, all of those were originally used for battlegrounds before they added world pvp objectives |
| 02:37.27 | Shadowed | although the house wasn't I guess, hrm |
| 02:37.37 | Droolio | think these babies http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetMapLandmarkInfo |
| 02:38.00 | Droolio | which seems to be out of date |
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| 02:42.09 | CIA-12 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56743 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua RaidCast_Config.lua): RaidCast: now does stuff! (not well though) |
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| 02:45.10 | deadlock | Hi all. IS there an add-on, that when inspecting someone, it'll addup there gear skill bonuses, and show you what there total stats are. |
| 02:46.56 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:47.08 | Zhinjio | I use SuperInspect, which does that. I'm sure there are others |
| 02:47.09 | Xinhuan | Examiner, Spyglass, WoWEquip |
| 02:47.20 | Xinhuan | superinspect is no longer being maintained |
| 02:48.08 | Xinhuan | wowequip allows you to setup any gear profile like a ingame ct-profiles, on top of examining any target |
| 02:48.20 | Xinhuan | examiner and spyglass are only for "looking" |
| 02:49.19 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio, you were looking for me earlier? |
| 02:49.45 | Zhinjio | just wanted to remember wqhat the name of your bank/gbank addon was |
| 02:49.47 | Zhinjio | and I found it. |
| 02:49.54 | Zhinjio | thanks for getting back to me, though |
| 02:56.09 | khangg | what's a good mass auction addon? |
| 02:59.52 | JoshBorke | i use auctioneer |
| 03:00.01 | Xinhuan | there is only auctioneer ;p |
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| 03:04.25 | Diao | man |
| 03:04.33 | Diao | gotta love when a shadowstep rogue ambushes you when you're below 30% |
| 03:04.34 | Diao | big numbers :( |
| 03:04.49 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r56744 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files): |
| 03:04.49 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:04.49 | CIA-12 | - Bug fixes for Alchemy, BS and JC patterns, should fix errors people are encountering |
| 03:05.19 | Poof | hmm |
| 03:05.25 | Poof | know if anybody is ever going to update MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames for 2.3? |
| 03:05.25 | Poof | =/ |
| 03:05.30 | Poof | Still has a TOC for 2.1 |
| 03:05.48 | aestil | does a weapon totem stack with something like rockbiter totem? |
| 03:06.46 | Shadowed | Just because the TOC isn't updated doesn't mean it's broken |
| 03:07.32 | Poof | Ya, but I mean to update the TOC +p |
| 03:08.34 | khangg | Xinhuan, I'm going to try out Igor's MassAuction |
| 03:08.58 | Xinhuan | tell me how it goes hehe |
| 03:10.01 | Shadowed | You don't have to update the TOC simply because it works with the latest patch either |
| 03:10.13 | khangg | Xinhuan, what's auctioneer do excatly? |
| 03:10.34 | Xinhuan | remembers seen auctions and does a bajillion maths calculations with it |
| 03:10.38 | Xinhuan | so you can use the info |
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| 03:11.09 | Xinhuan | like undercutting ppl, getting avg price, standard deviation, buying cheap items for resale, etc |
| 03:11.12 | Zhinjio | if you don't have archival data from the earlier version, I'd just start with auctioneer advanced. |
| 03:11.15 | Zhinjio | its very very nice |
| 03:11.26 | chexsum | mmm new computer ;) |
| 03:11.30 | Xinhuan | i don't like how it spams the chatbox with every ah searcg Zhinjio |
| 03:11.30 | Zhinjio | handles mass posting of auctions for you as well, from your earlier comment |
| 03:11.39 | Zhinjio | yeah, thats kind of a pain, but *shrug* |
| 03:11.39 | Xinhuan | i can't seem to find an optin to turn it off |
| 03:11.45 | Zhinjio | its priving options are way better |
| 03:11.55 | Xinhuan | i also don't like the small ah search text |
| 03:11.59 | Xinhuan | so i deleted it |
| 03:12.22 | khangg | i guess i won't need it then :P |
| 03:12.25 | Xinhuan | 8 rows is fine, doing 16 rows makes the damn text too small |
| 03:12.28 | khangg | massauction is fine |
| 03:12.34 | Diao | small ah search text? o_O |
| 03:12.40 | Xinhuan | ths search results |
| 03:12.57 | Xinhuan | auctioneer redos it to 16 rows displayed at a time instead of 8 |
| 03:13.09 | Xinhuan | and makes the text pretyt much unreadable with a small ui scale |
| 03:13.15 | khangg | i just want the massauction to put up my 160 netherweaves i always seem to get |
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| 03:17.10 | kergoth | Xinhuan: you can disable that, the scan finish message |
| 03:17.19 | Xinhuan | how? |
| 03:17.21 | kergoth | pretty sure its the settings for the auc-util-scanfinish module, in the auctioneer config |
| 03:17.24 | kergoth | i'll find it quick |
| 03:17.37 | kergoth | also, i agree with the 16 row thing, itd be cool if it let you configure how many to use |
| 03:17.39 | kergoth | go with 12 or something |
| 03:17.41 | RaydenUni | any ideas why my friend's pet is so slow? |
| 03:17.47 | kergoth | RaydenUni: slow? |
| 03:17.54 | Xinhuan | i do a lot of small searches and it just spams up the chatlog lol |
| 03:17.56 | Zhinjio | sure enough. thanks kergoth! |
| 03:18.11 | RaydenUni | it can't keep up when he's using aspect of the chetah |
| 03:18.20 | Xinhuan | well kergoth, i would like to see the option of it not replacing the default UI's 8 rows completely |
| 03:18.33 | Xinhuan | its sort functionality isn't the same as the one provided by auctioneer |
| 03:18.55 | Xinhuan | the default UI sorts by "name" then "buyout price" |
| 03:19.03 | Xinhuan | auctioineer doesn't do that at all |
| 03:20.29 | kergoth | by default it sorts by its value %, afaict |
| 03:20.34 | kergoth | not sure if you can cahnge that or not |
| 03:20.52 | Xinhuan | i can't get it to sort in the behavior that the default ui gives |
| 03:21.12 | kergoth | what i'm wondering about is how aucadv's sorting interacts with the default ui's new functionality where it can sort across all pages |
| 03:21.14 | Xinhuan | which is "by name" and if its the same name, "by buyout" |
| 03:21.30 | kergoth | if i sort by buyout total, increasing or decreasing, it sorts across all pages |
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| 03:21.39 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 03:21.40 | kergoth | if i sort by, say, bid, it's aucadv's sorting implementation, and its this page only |
| 03:21.44 | kergoth | it's .. inconsistent |
| 03:21.49 | kergoth | it needs to at least document this |
| 03:22.06 | Xinhuan | hence i don't want auctioneer replacing the default ui at all |
| 03:22.24 | Xinhuan | if i search "living ruby" |
| 03:22.31 | Xinhuan | its currently all nicely sorted by blizzard |
| 03:22.41 | Xinhuan | by each gem, then by buyout |
| 03:22.52 | Xinhuan | auctioneer just gives you one messed up jumbled list |
| 03:23.06 | Diao | yea i don't use the compact ui |
| 03:23.08 | kergoth | i like auc's interface personally, the value % is really useful imo. should open a JIRA ticket to enhance the sorting instead |
| 03:23.08 | Xinhuan | if you sort by name, then it doesn't sort by buyout |
| 03:23.14 | kergoth | and like diao says, you can disable it |
| 03:23.22 | Xinhuan | you can? |
| 03:23.22 | kergoth | both in the options or by disabling that addon |
| 03:23.24 | Diao | yea |
| 03:23.27 | kergoth | it's all modular |
| 03:23.29 | Diao | go to options |
| 03:23.35 | Xinhuan | the slash command system is pretty terrible |
| 03:23.39 | Diao | util modules |
| 03:23.42 | Diao | compact ui |
| 03:23.53 | FtH|Daemona | uh living ruby rang the bell over here... why is there so fucking much pell hit on caster gear? my shadowpriest twink is already specc'ing out of Shadowfocus :/ |
| 03:23.56 | kergoth | you guys use btmscan? |
| 03:23.59 | Diao | click the little coins or whatever |
| 03:24.00 | kergoth | man i love the new snatch module |
| 03:24.01 | Xinhuan | no |
| 03:24.06 | Diao | on the topright of your screen |
| 03:24.13 | kergoth | it watches for deals, either by scanning the top or bottom page continually, or just as you search |
| 03:24.16 | FtH|Daemona | kergoth yes, but i still didnt figure out how to make it work like i want |
| 03:24.19 | kergoth | i turn off the autoscan page stuff |
| 03:24.26 | kergoth | the snatch module lets you tell it to watch for specific things |
| 03:24.28 | FtH|Daemona | it still doesnt catch items to disenchant |
| 03:24.29 | Xinhuan | diao, how do you "go to the options"? |
| 03:24.33 | Diao | uh |
| 03:24.36 | kergoth | i told it to find me any stacks of adamantite for 27g or less |
| 03:24.38 | Diao | there's a little tab thingy |
| 03:24.41 | Diao | in the top right of your screen |
| 03:24.42 | kergoth | and now when i scan the ah, it pops up for them all |
| 03:24.46 | Diao | if you mouseover it should like |
| 03:24.47 | kergoth | or if i search for the ore manually |
| 03:24.49 | Diao | scroll out |
| 03:25.09 | Xinhuan | 230 login queue |
| 03:25.10 | Xinhuan | great |
| 03:25.20 | kergoth | Xinhuan: you see the little prospector addon i did? works better than neotron's macro for it :) |
| 03:25.22 | kergoth | boo queue :( |
| 03:25.28 | Diao | :( |
| 03:25.33 | Xinhuan | no, what does your addon do? |
| 03:25.44 | Keias | Took me 8 mins for a 130 queue Xinhuan :( |
| 03:25.52 | Diao | brb food |
| 03:26.19 | kergoth | Xinhuan: it just pops up a button when you have one or more stacks of at least 5 ore, clicking on it or hitting the keybind for it prospects |
| 03:26.32 | kergoth | wont get shoked up by stacks of less than 5 liek the macro |
| 03:26.46 | kergoth | stupidly simple, i dont know why it wasnt done before |
| 03:27.02 | Xinhuan | does it popup more than 1 button if i have 2 types of ore? |
| 03:27.20 | Xinhuan | say both feliron and adam |
| 03:27.35 | kergoth | currently it just pops up one button, preferring the highest prospect skill ore. can do it the other way easily enough if thatd be better, i wasnt sure how to handle it |
| 03:28.00 | Xinhuan | where do i get this addon |
| 03:28.04 | Xinhuan | name? |
| 03:28.12 | kergoth | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7947-Prospector.html |
| 03:28.20 | Xinhuan | not on svn? |
| 03:28.50 | kergoth | nah, i use git. you can get the latest version from http://git.kergoth.com/wow/Prospector/, it generates snapshot zip's for any revision |
| 03:29.20 | Xinhuan | well i don't really like going to 8 different addon repositories to get addons |
| 03:29.54 | khangg | Anyone know how to get rid of the green around the buffs with pitbull? |
| 03:29.54 | khangg | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/4zNx13r14n/WoWScrnShot_120807_222743.jpg |
| 03:29.58 | Xinhuan | just because tekkub, norg, you, clad, and a bunch of other people all use different places |
| 03:30.27 | Diao | lol |
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| 03:30.33 | Tekkub | cry more? :P |
| 03:30.38 | Diao | i just svn it |
| 03:30.49 | Tekkub | my releases are NOT hard to keep up with |
| 03:30.49 | Diao | and then highlight all my mods that are from svn, right click and update |
| 03:30.54 | Diao | and tortoisesvn does the rest |
| 03:30.54 | Tekkub | they're like 2 a month at most |
| 03:31.10 | Xinhuan | oh wow, its ace3-based |
| 03:31.15 | RaydenUni | my friend doesn't use his bow on his hunter |
| 03:31.17 | RaydenUni | he uses his staff |
| 03:31.31 | Xinhuan | this will be my first ace3 addon? |
| 03:31.33 | Tekkub | staffs don't shoot arrows well |
| 03:31.33 | khangg | melee hunter? :o |
| 03:31.33 | kergoth | RaydenUni: hahah |
| 03:31.33 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:31.39 | khangg | ac3? |
| 03:31.44 | khangg | ace3*? |
| 03:31.47 | Xinhuan | i see ace3 libs in the zip |
| 03:31.59 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=791 <-- he does have this though |
| 03:32.03 | Tekkub | tell your munter friend to get a windserpent pet too |
| 03:32.06 | kergoth | didnt really need to use it, but i wanted to play with it, so this was an excuse |
| 03:32.06 | Diao | i use sspvp2 which uses ace3 i think |
| 03:32.08 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:32.09 | Tekkub | he'll be hella cool |
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| 03:32.54 | RaydenUni | windserpent? |
| 03:32.57 | RaydenUni | are they not very good? |
| 03:33.00 | RaydenUni | he's using a cat right now |
| 03:33.06 | khangg | anyone? |
| 03:33.21 | Tekkub | cat? he should ditch that, they're decent |
| 03:33.22 | khangg | <khangg> Anyone know how to get rid of the green around the buffs with pitbull? |
| 03:33.23 | khangg | <khangg> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/4zNx13r14n/WoWScrnShot_120807_222743.jpg |
| 03:34.01 | Tekkub | windserpents are kinda the "they look cool but when you boil out the numbers they aren't very good" pet |
| 03:34.48 | RaydenUni | he keeps saying he wants to play a class that can just "oneshot guys" |
| 03:35.04 | Tekkub | rogue 19 twink then :P |
| 03:35.33 | khangg | Tekkub, I use a boar for leveling :) |
| 03:35.37 | Tekkub | Shadow Priest is the sex for leveling... if you can get that far |
| 03:35.37 | Lukian | Tekkub, are you sure on that? (If you disregard pathing issue) |
| 03:35.54 | Tekkub | I had a bear leveling, cat for raiding... |
| 03:36.18 | Tekkub | Lukian, noone likes the spellcaster pets, cause you have to stack caster stats to boost them |
| 03:36.51 | Lukian | I thought AP got converted to spelldmg? |
| 03:36.52 | Xinhuan | so kergoth, i can't try out your addon without restarting wow |
| 03:37.01 | Xinhuan | but restarting wow mean another 15 min login queue |
| 03:37.20 | Tekkub | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/stats_casters.shtml |
| 03:37.21 | Lukian | Xinhuan, you don't hit the login queue if you log back in within x mins. |
| 03:37.31 | Lukian | Tekkub, not all of them are casters |
| 03:37.45 | Xinhuan | Lukian, do you write addons? |
| 03:38.00 | Lukian | Xinhuan, a little |
| 03:38.05 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 03:38.40 | Tekkub | Lukian, most of the ones you'd get to level with are |
| 03:39.07 | Tekkub | dustwallow, WC or outlands are really the non-spell ones |
| 03:39.30 | Lukian | 11-49 you can get non-caster ones :) |
| 03:39.38 | Tekkub | in WC |
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| 03:40.33 | khangg | what's kergoth's addon? :o |
| 03:40.58 | khangg | Lukian, it's always cool to stick with the pet you've had since level 10 (in this case, my boar) |
| 03:41.10 | Lukian | khangg, yeah I have princess :) |
| 03:41.23 | Lukian | I use a Wind Serpent for dps (rarely) however |
| 03:42.02 | Tekkub | yea, I've had my bear since 10, and I only take the cat so I have some use for a pet in raids |
| 03:42.20 | Tekkub | instances I still prefer to play OT/squishysaver with the bear |
| 03:42.55 | kergoth | boars rock, charge is crazy good aggro generation, that first growl with the ap boost is wild |
| 03:43.14 | Tekkub | I could never go boar when bear's an option |
| 03:43.23 | kergoth | i'm not surprised :) |
| 03:43.26 | Tekkub | especially when I can name him after a furry dildo |
| 03:43.51 | Lukian | lol |
| 03:43.53 | Tekkub | If I ever had a horse (hell no) I'd name it Thor |
| 03:44.02 | Antiarc | http://neverbashfulwithbutter.blogspot.com/2007/12/experiments-in-deliciousness-bacon.html |
| 03:44.05 | kergoth | i like my new hunter's albino bat, renfield, but that wing flapping and screeching gets old fast :( |
| 03:44.06 | Lukian | I want a moose |
| 03:44.09 | Tekkub | even on a pally I wouldn't take a free horse |
| 03:44.29 | Tekkub | moose would be a kick ass mount |
| 03:44.43 | Tekkub | fuck the reindeer |
| 03:44.46 | Lukian | Can you imagine a moose with Charge? ;) |
| 03:45.01 | Tekkub | oh as a pet... hrm... |
| 03:45.16 | Tekkub | buffalo... wait no they're adding that... taunka |
| 03:45.21 | Tekkub | I'd take a taunka mount |
| 03:45.25 | Lukian | there's some out in azshara, but they are untamable |
| 03:45.48 | Wobin | ... |
| 03:45.49 | Tekkub | moose? I thought those were the elk models |
| 03:45.51 | Wobin | omg bacon cookies |
| 03:45.58 | Tekkub | bacon cookies... |
| 03:46.02 | Tekkub | that sounds... |
| 03:46.07 | Lukian | close enough to a moose ;) |
| 03:46.09 | Tekkub | unnatural yet adicting |
| 03:46.23 | Tekkub | big diff between a moose and an elk |
| 03:46.24 | Tekkub | :P |
| 03:46.38 | Wobin | Tekkub: Bacon Chocolate Chip Cookies with Maple Cinnamon Glaze |
| 03:46.40 | Tekkub | moose are scary |
| 03:46.54 | Tekkub | okey that's just overboard woblin |
| 03:46.54 | Wobin | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/sub81/FoodDecember/P1110477.png |
| 03:47.04 | Tekkub | eeew |
| 03:47.05 | Wobin | The link Antiarc just posted =) |
| 03:47.15 | Tekkub | I was thinking bacon bits mixed in like chocolate chips |
| 03:47.29 | Antiarc | they made those too |
| 03:47.32 | Wobin | yep |
| 03:47.36 | Tekkub | I'm afraid |
| 03:47.52 | Xinhuan | so whats the current chat topic? |
| 03:47.57 | Xinhuan | chocolate chips? |
| 03:48.00 | Antiarc | Bacon chocolate chip cookies |
| 03:48.02 | Antiarc | http://neverbashfulwithbutter.blogspot.com/2007/12/experiments-in-deliciousness-bacon.html |
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| 03:48.19 | Xinhuan | makes me think of Oreos |
| 03:48.22 | Xinhuan | yumm |
| 03:48.24 | Wobin | I'm totally going to make this today: http://www.insanitytheory.net/kitchenwench/2007/12/07/im-totally-nuts-for-nuts/ |
| 03:48.41 | Tekkub | you know, the oreo people are retards |
| 03:48.52 | Tekkub | all these stupid bullshit flavors to try to sell more |
| 03:49.00 | Wobin | normal oreo are fine |
| 03:49.02 | Tekkub | and they're missing the blatently obvious |
| 03:49.11 | Tekkub | the one thing that would sell like mad |
| 03:49.19 | Tekkub | Quadrupple-stuff oreos |
| 03:49.23 | Gngsk | straight filling |
| 03:49.28 | Wobin | The only cookie/biscuit that ever enhanced it's sellability without losing original sales is the TimTam =) |
| 03:49.32 | Diao | lol quadruple stuffed |
| 03:49.43 | Tekkub | the what? never heard of it |
| 03:49.48 | Wobin | omg tekk |
| 03:49.54 | Wobin | I'll have to send you some |
| 03:49.56 | Diao | hmm |
| 03:49.58 | Diao | googled it |
| 03:49.59 | Tekkub | must be why the enhanced it |
| 03:50.04 | Diao | it's an australian biscuit |
| 03:50.05 | Tekkub | can't get worse than none |
| 03:50.18 | Wobin | Best Biscuit Ever |
| 03:50.25 | Tekkub | TimTam, australllllian for beescuit? |
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| 03:50.28 | Wobin | (or cookie for you seppos) |
| 03:50.28 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 04:06.57 | erb | is it possible to add items to autobar? |
| 04:07.32 | erb | namely mana potion injectors and eng flying machines |
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| 04:14.45 | CIA-12 | HealOrganizer: |
| 04:14.45 | CIA-12 | - Added broadcast command line option to broadcast assignments to raid chat |
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| 04:20.35 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: ping? |
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| 04:21.50 | mathuin | Is there any way to make autobar have a column for "widgets" -- stuff like goblin jumper cables, world enlarger, zapthrottle mote extractor, et cetera? |
| 04:22.05 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: pong |
| 04:24.59 | Silowyi | does Kael'thas have a proximity agro? |
| 04:25.14 | Xinhuan | all bosses do Silowyi? |
| 04:25.22 | Silowyi | http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kaelsnewestleiutenantgv2.jpg |
| 04:25.28 | Xinhuan | in fact, all mobs do |
| 04:25.30 | Silowyi | he must be blind then |
| 04:25.34 | Silowyi | not true! |
| 04:25.36 | Xinhuan | go near and they aggro |
| 04:25.57 | Silowyi | there are some boss encounters you have to actively engage. |
| 04:26.01 | Silowyi | and some quest mobs |
| 04:26.14 | Silowyi | for example, Lurker Below |
| 04:26.15 | CIA-12 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56746 10RaidCast/RaidCast.lua: RaidCast: PRETTY BAR! :D |
| 04:26.24 | Xinhuan | alar is the only boss with no proximity aggro |
| 04:26.34 | Silowyi | Lurker Below :P |
| 04:26.42 | Xinhuan | lurker below shoots spouts if nobody is in melee range |
| 04:26.44 | JoshBorke | illidan? |
| 04:27.03 | Xinhuan | having to fish him up isn't the same as proximity aggro ;p |
| 04:27.06 | Silowyi | Lurker doesn't proximity agro :P |
| 04:27.11 | Silowyi | you're right, it's not the same |
| 04:27.12 | Silowyi | :P |
| 04:27.28 | Silowyi | The prince in Dire Maul |
| 04:27.38 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: you rang? |
| 04:28.00 | Xinhuan | those are "activated" bosses so to speak |
| 04:28.21 | Silowyi | exactly |
| 04:28.25 | Xinhuan | but once activated, they have proximity aggro |
| 04:28.29 | Silowyi | never fought Kael'thas |
| 04:28.33 | Xinhuan | like anything else |
| 04:28.37 | Silowyi | oh wait |
| 04:28.39 | Silowyi | Nefarian |
| 04:28.44 | Silowyi | you have to talk to him |
| 04:29.02 | Xinhuan | nefarian isn't a boss when in npc mode |
| 04:29.07 | Silowyi | same with Velastraz |
| 04:29.41 | Xinhuan | but my point still stands, these activated bosses aggro the closest person when they turn aggressive, or maybe the person who activated it |
| 04:29.44 | Silowyi | So anyway, the question of whether or not Kael'thas had proximity agro or was activated is perfectly reasonable :P |
| 04:29.56 | Silowyi | especially when I can stealth to within melee range of him... |
| 04:30.01 | Silowyi | (very odd for a bosS) |
| 04:30.10 | Xinhuan | kaelthas encounter is activated by walking within 30 yards of any of his advisors |
| 04:30.21 | Silowyi | http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kaelsnewestleiutenantgv2.jpg oh really? :P |
| 04:31.04 | Xinhuan | stealth doesn't count obviously ;p |
| 04:31.18 | Silowyi | I know of no boss level mob that you can stealth that close to |
| 04:31.29 | Silowyi | aside from activatable ones |
| 04:31.37 | Xinhuan | you know that kaelthas isn't "selectable" as a npc until phase 4 right? |
| 04:31.49 | Silowyi | uh, I can target him right now |
| 04:32.16 | Silowyi | my mouse even has the blade icon when I hover over him hehe |
| 04:34.37 | thul | ding :-P |
| 04:34.56 | Diao | wtf is with your frames silowyi o_O |
| 04:35.09 | Diao | they confuse me |
| 04:35.24 | Silowyi | me, target, target of target, target of target's target |
| 04:35.27 | Silowyi | and I have them off-center |
| 04:35.34 | Silowyi | cause my raid frames and everything are to the right |
| 04:35.46 | Silowyi | they aren't showing right now though cause everyone left the raid |
| 04:35.55 | Diao | and some buffs and things are bigger than others o.o |
| 04:35.59 | Silowyi | (but they sort of are in the picture) |
| 04:35.59 | Silowyi | oh |
| 04:36.16 | Silowyi | it makes the buffs/debuffs that are mine twice as large |
| 04:36.24 | Diao | oh |
| 04:36.24 | Silowyi | very useful for making sure I keep mangle and rip up on the target |
| 04:36.56 | thul | mangle makes deep wounds rock, right? |
| 04:37.11 | Diao | wonder if that's possible with pitbull |
| 04:37.16 | Diao | making your own buffs/debuffs bigger |
| 04:37.19 | mattswell | ck around? |
| 04:37.49 | Silowyi | mangle = 30% to all bleed effects |
| 04:40.38 | Silowyi | http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot120807223840nv7.jpg I begin to think he doesn't have a proximity trigger. |
| 04:41.33 | mattswell | that is a busy layout |
| 04:42.23 | mattswell | :D |
| 04:42.39 | mattswell | anyone here used libparser-3.0/4.0 ? |
| 04:42.55 | Silowyi | Xinhaun: You have to attack Kael'thas before anything happens |
| 04:43.06 | Silowyi | or at least, he didn't start his event until I did |
| 04:43.09 | Xinhuan | not for us |
| 04:43.18 | Silowyi | I was unstealthed, standing on top of him |
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| 04:43.36 | Xinhuan | moving within 30yards of any advisor starts the event, unless they changed it in the last 6 weeks |
| 04:43.43 | Xinhuan | since i haven't gone back TK for 6 weeks |
| 04:44.21 | Silowyi | They might have changed it in 2.3 |
| 04:44.28 | Xinhuan | its possible they nerfed him in 2.3 |
| 04:44.42 | Xinhuan | to make it more rez-friendly |
| 04:46.55 | aestil | we killed him once post 2.3 |
| 04:47.01 | aestil | i'm pretty sure we had to just move in range. |
| 04:47.21 | aestil | the nerf to the fight makes it slightly easier. definetly easier to do if you already know how. |
| 04:47.36 | aestil | i think probalby though, that it would have been very hard to learn even at this point though |
| 04:47.38 | Silowyi | Hmm maybe a hotfix? |
| 04:47.52 | Silowyi | I was sitting there next to him dancing in bear form |
| 04:48.09 | Silowyi | he didn't start his event until I mangled XD |
| 04:49.22 | khangg | dinged 68 :D |
| 04:53.53 | aestil | is there a tourguide for the new dustwallow marsh? |
| 04:54.01 | |Stan| | antiarc: are u here? |
| 04:54.48 | mathuin | aestil: near the flight point is a quest to go to the new settlement. |
| 04:54.56 | mathuin | I was unimpressed with how few quests were there. |
| 04:55.08 | aestil | i've heard good things about the new dustwallow |
| 04:55.35 | mathuin | As a 70 I only got like 250 rep there. |
| 04:55.38 | mathuin | I was hoping for 1-2k. |
| 04:55.55 | mathuin | There's a new FP at the settlement, which would be great if anyone actually went to Onyxia anymore. |
| 04:56.13 | thul | hmm |
| 04:56.25 | thul | why can't i get beserker stance quest at war trainer at 30 as horde? :-P |
| 04:56.59 | thul | nevermind, had to be one special war trainer:p |
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| 04:59.34 | CIA-12 | - Few more alchemy database fixes |
| 05:01.34 | aestil | mathuin: quests rep at 'grey' quests is reduced dramatically. |
| 05:03.07 | Kemayo | aestil: Not for *all* of them. A lot of newbie zone quests still give full, unless they changed that in the last patch. |
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| 05:03.33 | mathuin | True, but still. 250? |
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| 05:07.33 | aestil | being unimpressed with a zone of quests, because you didn't get much rep at 70 is not exactly what they had in mind i don't think. |
| 05:08.48 | mathuin | I think there were five quests, one of which was broken. |
| 05:08.54 | mathuin | Five seems like a small number. |
| 05:15.39 | Kemayo | Yeah, there weren't all that many direct Mudsprocket quests. I think it was more than five, but not terribly much more. |
| 05:16.09 | Kemayo | This was somewhat made up for by at least doubling the number of quests in Theramore. |
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| 05:38.56 | mathuin | I heard they finished the shady rest inn line. |
| 05:38.59 | mathuin | Wonder where to pick it back up. |
| 05:39.37 | aestil | does windfury weapon work with like flametongue totem? |
| 05:40.02 | thul | aestil: what do you mean? |
| 05:41.41 | Shadowed | aestil, as in does it pulse a weapon enchant? |
| 05:42.19 | Pkekyo| | why the flying fuck does people call me 6.30am on a sunday for no reason? >.< fucksake |
| 05:42.49 | aestil | well, do the weapon totems work with the weapon enchants? |
| 05:42.55 | Shadowed | no they don't stack |
| 05:43.01 | aestil | like when i get windfury totem, will it work in addition to windfury weapon? |
| 05:43.05 | Shadowed | no |
| 05:43.21 | Shadowed | totems won't override temporary weapon enchants |
| 05:43.23 | Stanzilla | I just got a whisper if i want to go kara |
| 05:43.27 | Stanzilla | at 6:40 am |
| 05:43.29 | Stanzilla | :o |
| 05:43.49 | aestil | ok, so, i'm confused, what is the point of the weapon buffs? for PvP mostly? or short term PvE grinding type fights? |
| 05:44.13 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: lucky sod....all I got was a drunk woman screaming "wazzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap" on the phone |
| 05:44.16 | Shadowed | Not everyone has a shaman with them aestil |
| 05:44.19 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: LOL |
| 05:44.20 | Xinhuan | a weapon can only have at most 1 permanent enchant, and 1 temporary enchant |
| 05:44.28 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: indeed |
| 05:44.41 | Xinhuan | if there are more than 1 temporary weapon enchant effects, then only 1 of them is applied |
| 05:45.41 | Shadowed | Xinhuan, sort of |
| 05:46.06 | Shadowed | Temporary weapon enchants that a user applies override totem ones, so poisons, sharpening stones, oils and such won't be overridden by a totem that provides a temp weapon enchant |
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| 05:46.23 | aestil | ok, how does totemic recall work? |
| 05:46.28 | Xinhuan | my point still stands |
| 05:46.29 | aestil | is it to quicly drop all your totems? |
| 05:46.29 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 05:46.32 | Shadowed | yea |
| 05:46.34 | Shadowed | just clarifying what you said =p |
| 05:48.06 | aestil | totemic call: you put all your totems back down, you get charged for them, then you get 25% of that mana back? |
| 05:48.36 | Shadowed | You recall them before they expire, and you get mana back instead of it being wasted. |
| 05:52.14 | ulic | also so your searing totem doesn't get spastic and agro more stuff :P |
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| 06:18.19 | Orionshock | ... mift |
| 06:18.23 | Orionshock | missed him... |
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| 06:28.57 | aestil | after 5/5 flurry in enhancment, whats best for grinding? 3/3 elemental weapons? |
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| 06:34.07 | ulic | probably |
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| 06:38.07 | Xinhuan | wtb bag space |
| 06:38.10 | Xinhuan | pst |
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| 06:38.32 | Xinhuan | maybe i should DE that T2.5 set |
| 06:40.01 | Xinhuan | or delete the 10 different mounts i don't use |
| 06:41.08 | Killmore | Xinhuan: do it ! |
| 06:41.16 | Killmore | the only thing I get its my old T5 gear |
| 06:41.36 | Xinhuan | i kept my t3 too |
| 06:41.37 | Keias | 2.5 was ugly :( |
| 06:41.39 | Keias | DE it! |
| 06:41.43 | Xinhuan | maybe thats a bad idea |
| 06:41.44 | Keias | T3 was awesome |
| 06:41.49 | Killmore | I didnt DE vendor |
| 06:42.08 | Xinhuan | given a choice, which would you kill? |
| 06:42.13 | Xinhuan | t2.5, t3 or mounts? |
| 06:45.06 | Killmore | to de ? |
| 06:45.10 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 06:45.10 | Killmore | DE ? |
| 06:45.35 | break19 | this is weird... my wife and I both are using Omen, disembedded libs.. we can each see our -own- threat... but cant see each others.. when I try to see "party revisions" I get "Omen: <player> is not using Threat-1.0 compatible agent |
| 06:45.44 | break19 | anyone have a clue wtf is going on? |
| 06:46.10 | Killmore | my favorite choice will to keep the t3 first |
| 06:46.13 | Xinhuan | long stnding bug break19, nobody has found the cause yet despite millions of users |
| 06:46.39 | Killmore | and then the t2.5 and then the mount |
| 06:46.45 | Killmore | scrap the mount first |
| 06:46.55 | break19 | hm.. it only does it with this char vs -that- particular char of hers.. none of our other alts have this problem. |
| 06:47.13 | Killmore | except if you have special mount |
| 06:47.15 | break19 | specifically.. me on my pally, her on her mage.. |
| 06:48.27 | Xinhuan | the only mount i use is [Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal] ;p but i have all the pvp ones and wintersaber one as well |
| 06:48.34 | Xinhuan | probably deleting the pvp ones i guess |
| 06:50.20 | Diao | yea pvp ones are easy to get |
| 06:51.43 | Xinhuan | they didn't used to be easy :( |
| 06:55.06 | Diao | they were! |
| 06:55.12 | Diao | just rank 10 |
| 06:55.13 | Diao | :P |
| 06:56.56 | Xinhuan | uh 11 you mean |
| 06:57.08 | Xinhuan | rank 10 was for shoulders and helm? |
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| 06:58.17 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: you there? |
| 06:58.25 | Keias | yeah |
| 06:58.27 | Keias | 11 for mounts |
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| 07:00.07 | Xuerian | Ahh, the good old days, where seeing someone in full GM gear was something |
| 07:00.20 | Xinhuan | err GM merely meant you played a lot |
| 07:00.45 | Diao | i don't remember |
| 07:00.47 | Xuerian | It was still something. Lots less people had it. |
| 07:01.29 | Diao | i played too many chars to high ranks |
| 07:01.29 | Diao | lol |
| 07:01.31 | Xinhuan | very few ppl still have it |
| 07:01.37 | Diao | all kinda blurs together |
| 07:01.48 | Xuerian | Then the first day after they changed it all to honor purchases, everyone bought gm weapons, then gear, before they nerfed honor |
| 07:01.54 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:02.41 | thul | hehe |
| 07:02.57 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: That Resonating Crystal... Did you have to have done the quest to open AQ to pick it up, or only had to ring the gong? |
| 07:02.58 | thul | 12 hours left off work now |
| 07:02.58 | thul | yay |
| 07:03.05 | Xinhuan | both |
| 07:03.40 | Xuerian | And as many met the conditions could get the mount in those (8?) hours that you could ring the gong? |
| 07:03.47 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 07:03.50 | Diao | wouldn't you have to have the quest to ring the gong |
| 07:03.52 | Diao | o_O |
| 07:04.07 | Xinhuan | to get the mount, you need to ring the gong within 10 hours of the first ringer |
| 07:04.18 | thul | coolio. |
| 07:04.35 | Xuerian | And pretty much the only way to get it now, is to transfer to a new server and watch the AQ war like a hawk =X |
| 07:04.40 | Xinhuan | anyone can ring the gong - but to "ring" it, you need the quest item - which required 10000 questchain steps |
| 07:05.07 | Xinhuan | and a 120-man raid boss in moonglade |
| 07:05.14 | Diao | you can't transfer to a new server |
| 07:05.17 | Xinhuan | (well 120 ppl needed at lvl 60, in bwl gear) |
| 07:05.20 | Diao | because after 6 months they automatically open |
| 07:05.26 | Keias | lol |
| 07:05.29 | thul | sadcat. |
| 07:05.32 | Diao | and there's a 6 month required wait on a new server to transfer ;) |
| 07:05.37 | Keias | and a computer to handle laggy ass Moonglade :P |
| 07:05.40 | thul | btw, 21-31 since friday :-P |
| 07:05.47 | thul | Im such a powerlevler :-D |
| 07:06.57 | thul | bah |
| 07:07.05 | thul | looks like the wireless here is blocking wow :-( |
| 07:07.06 | thul | i hate it. |
| 07:07.23 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Yeah, I was in that fight on my server |
| 07:07.36 | Xinhuan | it was annoying |
| 07:07.43 | Xuerian | nontheless, i miss big events like that |
| 07:07.53 | Xinhuan | cos you had to get 2 dedicated healers on you just so you don't die |
| 07:07.58 | Xinhuan | during eranikus |
| 07:08.01 | Xinhuan | and failing the quest |
| 07:08.48 | Xuerian | So much effort put into those questlines and getting into the dungeons as a whole |
| 07:08.54 | Xuerian | Just doesn't exist in bc =\ |
| 07:09.10 | thul | which is a _good_ thing :-D |
| 07:09.24 | Xuerian | thul: They touted horde and alliance working together in bc |
| 07:09.29 | Xinhuan | its "good" because it encouraged server-wide activity, but its bad because its a once-off event |
| 07:09.39 | Xuerian | It's total bullshit, they worked together more getting into AQ than ever have in bc |
| 07:10.02 | thul | i like _not_ having endless pre-quests |
| 07:10.05 | thul | it is good :-) |
| 07:10.25 | Xuerian | Obviously blizzard does too, seeing as how they cut attunement in bc |
| 07:10.51 | Xinhuan | pre-bc dungeons didn't have ridiculous attunement requirements |
| 07:11.06 | Xuerian | mc |
| 07:11.14 | Xinhuan | why does it require vasj/kael to die to enter hyjal? doesn't make sense |
| 07:11.23 | Xinhuan | its a pain in the arse to go back to attune ppl |
| 07:11.30 | Xuerian | If you know the lore behind it, it does make sense |
| 07:11.43 | Xinhuan | from a gameplay perspective, it doesn't |
| 07:11.50 | Gngsk | lore, lol, spaceships! |
| 07:11.58 | Xuerian | Gngsk: Foot, gun, bang |
| 07:13.43 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Yeah, from a gameplay perspective, one of Hack'n'slash, no, it doesn't. The less story in wow the more grind it becomes |
| 07:16.29 | Xuerian | Would've been better off with Panderan... damn china. |
| 07:16.30 | thul | long useless prequests != interesting gameplay |
| 07:16.39 | thul | long useless prequests = long useless grind |
| 07:16.40 | thul | :-( |
| 07:16.57 | Xuerian | "omg incorporating pandas in videogames is bad" |
| 07:17.22 | aestil | xinhuan its just a check. |
| 07:17.28 | aestil | hyjal is easy sauce compared to killing KT |
| 07:17.49 | aestil | hyjal and the first 4 boss in in BT are like a big pat on the back for sticking vashj and KT out. |
| 07:18.03 | aestil | then you deal with harder stuff, and frustrtating stuff like archimonde. |
| 07:18.25 | Xuerian | thul: It's not along, useless grind if you enjoy story in any way. Yes, the stuff you had to gather for the sillithus/brood of nozdormu quests was a little outrageous |
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| 07:20.37 | thul | i don't enjoy prequests.. :-) |
| 07:20.41 | thul | in a general kind of way :-P |
| 07:22.29 | Xuerian | I know. Who cares why Onyxia is a problem for everyone, and needs to be killed. Why has she run off into a cave, doesn't matter. Who is she working with and why.... Doesn't matter. Just kill her, just loot her. Yeah. I know, not thinking about it/working towards it isn't that bad anymore. Immersion gets tiresome after a while |
| 07:23.17 | thul | hmm, I don't know if you realize the irony here.. :-) |
| 07:23.52 | thul | "needs to be killed, 40 times, pr night, beacause she is a zombie, so she can live again, and she does it in an _exactly_ similar fashion each night, isn't THAT cool?" |
| 07:24.15 | thul | raiding is tiresome and repetetive enough in itself, one doesen't need long questchains just to GET to be bored:P |
| 07:24.30 | Xuerian | thul: If it was practical for blizzard to make unique bosses with unique loot for every single raid, good lord I'd go for it in a instant, it'd be awesome |
| 07:25.10 | Xuerian | Obviously it's not, despite the billions they make. |
| 07:25.34 | Xuerian | Making you work a little bit to get the loot from her was something, though |
| 07:26.13 | Xinhuan | not to start a debate, but i find arenaing a lot more boring than pve-ing |
| 07:26.48 | thul | arena is fun :-) |
| 07:27.00 | thul | clearing trash? fun and maybe challenging the first.. mabye the second time |
| 07:27.05 | Xuerian | Really? I think it's pretty grand, x players vs x players in four arenas starting in the exact same spot the every single time with the same kind of group layouts and enforced advantages/weaknesses/strategies.. again, again, again.... |
| 07:27.08 | thul | after a while? just boring time spend. |
| 07:27.17 | thul | human factor |
| 07:27.23 | thul | you don't have that in pve :-) |
| 07:27.24 | Xinhuan | not after the 100th game of the same arena over and over again, largelt dependant on class composition |
| 07:27.26 | thul | imagination, tactic. |
| 07:27.29 | thul | well, yes |
| 07:27.32 | thul | still skill :-) |
| 07:27.58 | Xuerian | Anyway, yeah, it all gets boring pretty quick. |
| 07:28.06 | Xuerian | This begs the question, why am I still playing... Well |
| 07:28.16 | Xuerian | NWN2 flunked and NWN1 needs a rework.. .badly. |
| 07:28.37 | thul | and they don't make many games for mac |
| 07:28.48 | Xuerian | As for the human factor though, PvE has it too |
| 07:28.55 | thul | ofcourse, on one side |
| 07:28.56 | Xuerian | It's why I miss the big raids, lots of people working together |
| 07:28.56 | aestil | and WotLK is around the corner, and they've said they're trying to work arthas into the main story of it alot better than they did with BC/Illidian. so you probably are hard for that. |
| 07:28.59 | thul | arena has it on both sides ;-) |
| 07:29.05 | aestil | 25 people is plenty big. |
| 07:29.20 | aestil | less room for individual 'screw ups' more player accountabilty |
| 07:29.25 | Xuerian | aestil: Ya know, I've discussed this with lots of people, and I still hold to the "Bullshit." |
| 07:29.52 | aestil | really? |
| 07:29.56 | Xuerian | 40 players has dynamics that 20 doesn't. Yeah, it's more forgiving to the individual, but there's nothing really like working with 40 people in one spot against one thing |
| 07:30.12 | aestil | cause we always said, in the 40 mans that basically a core of around 20 people that were good, completely carried the othe r20. |
| 07:30.22 | Xuerian | I'm not saying that the 25's are bad, or really the 10's.. And it's all my opinion, anyway. |
| 07:30.29 | aestil | 10's imo, are bad. |
| 07:30.33 | Xinhuan | there are fights that required all 40 to do perfectly |
| 07:30.36 | Xinhuan | can't carry |
| 07:30.39 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 07:30.43 | Xinhuan | naxx was a good example |
| 07:30.50 | Xuerian | It started with AQ40 |
| 07:30.51 | Xinhuan | such as thaddius, loatheb, 4H |
| 07:30.53 | aestil | so far the only good 10's fight i've been in is the dragon hawk boss in ZA. |
| 07:30.56 | Xinhuan | and cthun |
| 07:31.01 | aestil | thaddius is easily doable with 25 people. |
| 07:31.04 | Xuerian | I'm sad that I never got to see that |
| 07:31.10 | aestil | 4h only fails at 25 because it requires 8 tanks. |
| 07:31.16 | aestil | my guild didn't beat 4h |
| 07:31.26 | Xinhuan | nah you can't do thaddius with 25, you would enrage the boss at 5 min due to lack of dps |
| 07:31.28 | aestil | but loatheb and thadius, should be just fine at 25. |
| 07:31.38 | Xuerian | As for 10-mans, yes, they're full of fail tbh. They belong in the "Raid training" category, like UBRS |
| 07:31.49 | aestil | Xinhuan: obviously they can give him a bit less health, and require the same amount of individual dps to make it happen. |
| 07:31.51 | Xinhuan | even with loatheb, most guild struggle with a full 40 by the 7th Pot rotation |
| 07:32.05 | aestil | thats just a tuning issue. |
| 07:32.05 | Xinhuan | still those fights can't be carried |
| 07:32.20 | Xinhuan | and having 40 ppl coordinated is just more epic than 25 |
| 07:32.24 | Xuerian | Tuning issue or not, it required everyone to work together |
| 07:32.26 | aestil | thaddius was easy, except for people DCing and some people being stupid. |
| 07:32.28 | Xinhuan | the feel is different |
| 07:32.29 | thul | why not have 100 man raids? |
| 07:32.34 | aestil | but that fight is the same with 25 vs 40. |
| 07:32.37 | Xuerian | Thul: Lag |
| 07:32.38 | thul | that would be even MORE epic!! |
| 07:32.41 | Xuerian | Yes, it would be |
| 07:32.42 | Xinhuan | they couldn't cos with 100 ppl, it starts lagging |
| 07:32.43 | thul | .. I'm being ironic |
| 07:32.48 | thul | nevermind:p |
| 07:32.49 | Xuerian | DAoC |
| 07:32.53 | Xinhuan | consider aq40 opening event |
| 07:32.54 | Xuerian | Thul: I'm not |
| 07:33.20 | Xuerian | They're called Massively Multiplayer Online Games for something, dammit |
| 07:33.26 | Xuerian | I can do a 40-man raid in nwn |
| 07:33.29 | Xuerian | not mmo. |
| 07:33.36 | Xuerian | :P |
| 07:33.40 | Xinhuan | nwn runs dedicated servers |
| 07:33.44 | Xinhuan | per instance |
| 07:33.49 | aestil | naxx is probably the pinacle of their encounter design, but all of it except 4h should remain in tact for 25 mans. |
| 07:33.57 | Xuerian | Ok, I was partly joking on that bit of it |
| 07:34.14 | thul | well, naxx is coming back:p |
| 07:34.16 | aestil | so when WotLK comes out, ima look forward to seeing it again. |
| 07:34.33 | Xinhuan | for a minority of ppl though, its "old content" |
| 07:34.49 | Xuerian | Coming back? |
| 07:35.17 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZVVzVMro <- looks ok for a 2h slam-lvling warrior? |
| 07:35.20 | Xinhuan | i hope people want to stab us for having 7 letter names that start with X and end with N |
| 07:35.23 | Xinhuan | ;) |
| 07:35.32 | Xuerian | lol. |
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| 07:35.53 | aestil | got disconnected. so i don't know what made it through. |
| 07:35.59 | thul | nothing |
| 07:36.01 | thul | you fail |
| 07:36.03 | Xuerian | Last heard "So when WotLK" |
| 07:36.05 | aestil | all i was saying is that KT is an epic fight, but archimonde is not. |
| 07:36.17 | aestil | oh, well, i'm not very far into BT |
| 07:36.29 | aestil | so the farthest encounter in there i've seen is terron gorefiend, which isn't very epic. |
| 07:36.34 | aestil | but i thought mag was epic. it felt epic. |
| 07:36.39 | aestil | KT felt epic. |
| 07:36.51 | aestil | i don't think it would have changed if it was 25 or 40 |
| 07:37.14 | aestil | perhaps RoS is epic, or mother. |
| 07:37.16 | aestil | i don't know. |
| 07:37.16 | thul | and is slam-timing-slow 2h a ok way of leveling? |
| 07:37.22 | Xuerian | aestil: Yeah, you've got a point. It isn't just the size of the raid. But a lot of the old bosses seemed more epic than those now |
| 07:37.24 | Xinhuan | a fight multiple phases tends to feel epic |
| 07:37.24 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 07:37.29 | aestil | yes. |
| 07:37.34 | aestil | KT is absolutly epic. |
| 07:37.42 | aestil | the leveling curve on that fight is impressive. |
| 07:37.46 | aestil | but mag is very simple. |
| 07:37.50 | aestil | and yet, its exciting imo. |
| 07:37.51 | Xinhuan | KT ~= Kael'thas ;p |
| 07:38.09 | aestil | what is ~=? |
| 07:38.17 | aestil | is that the same as !=? |
| 07:38.17 | Xinhuan | not equal |
| 07:38.30 | aestil | yeah, you're right. |
| 07:38.51 | aestil | i interchange kael'thuzuad [sp] and kael'thas all the time in converstation unintentionally. |
| 07:38.59 | aestil | vashj was relativly epic. |
| 07:39.03 | Xuerian | aestil: You're in a lua dev channel o_0 |
| 07:39.04 | aestil | at least to learn it. |
| 07:39.24 | aestil | but since i don't write any code, i don't know the lua shorthand : / |
| 07:39.30 | thul | i feel that nightbane is epic |
| 07:39.30 | Xuerian | :P |
| 07:39.30 | thul | :-P |
| 07:39.49 | aestil | nightbane? really? |
| 07:39.53 | thul | mhm |
| 07:40.02 | thul | anyhow: I feel a lack of warrior tips here tonight :-P |
| 07:40.05 | thul | today/tonight etc |
| 07:40.15 | aestil | well, i mean... its like ony with only 10 people. |
| 07:40.20 | Xinhuan | zul'jin fight would feel absolutely epic if it were 40-man |
| 07:40.21 | aestil | its kinda of repetative. |
| 07:40.28 | thul | well, aren't all fights? :-P |
| 07:40.28 | Xinhuan | but as a 10-man, it simply is not |
| 07:40.30 | aestil | haven't had time for a zul'jin raid. |
| 07:40.45 | aestil | i made it to malacrass, and was unimpressed with moroes 2.0 |
| 07:40.50 | aestil | dragonhawk was exciting though. |
| 07:40.58 | aestil | nifty mechanic with the eggs. |
| 07:41.02 | thul | i do hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, snd, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, rupture, hemo, hemo, hemo, snd, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, rupture, hemo, hemo, hemo, snd... etc:P |
| 07:41.04 | aestil | is that a new mechanic for them? i don't remember it. |
| 07:41.05 | Xinhuan | sorry moroes 2.0 is called high king maulgar ;p |
| 07:41.14 | aestil | ok, moroes 2.5 then. |
| 07:41.25 | thul | 2.1 |
| 07:41.26 | thul | :-P |
| 07:41.28 | aestil | and i disagree, since you have to kill all of maulgar's adds. |
| 07:41.38 | aestil | wherease with malacrass and moroes you don't. |
| 07:42.00 | aestil | is anyone at RoS? |
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| 07:42.15 | thul | ragnaros? :-P |
| 07:42.41 | Xinhuan | not exactly, you could still kill maulgar without kiling his adds |
| 07:42.45 | Xinhuan | just not practical to do so |
| 07:43.20 | aestil | well, yeah. |
| 07:43.23 | aestil | still. |
| 07:43.38 | aestil | RoS= reliliquey of souls [sp] |
| 07:43.57 | aestil | one of my friends started playing wow. complete noob. |
| 07:44.07 | aestil | couldn't grasp the concept of needing to be 'attuned' for something |
| 07:44.11 | aestil | stuff like that. |
| 07:44.37 | aestil | i had him d/l and watch a KT video right after we killed him a month or so ago. he was like ... what was that. |
| 07:44.42 | Xinhuan | just tell him "attunement" is just the fancy wow term for "prerequisite" |
| 07:45.01 | aestil | yes. |
| 07:46.30 | aestil | but i mean, in reference to what is an epic fight. |
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| 07:52.08 | Xuerian | aestil: Got a kt kill video sitting around? Can't find one |
| 07:52.28 | Xinhuan | google |
| 07:52.32 | Xinhuan | heaps on net |
| 07:52.43 | aestil | there are 2 good ones. |
| 07:53.11 | aestil | http://files.filefront.com/LRvsKaelThas+Sunstrider+wmv/;7629343;/fileinfo.html |
| 07:53.16 | aestil | that one is my personal favorite. |
| 07:53.30 | aestil | there is also one that has an aussie girl explaining shit. |
| 07:53.50 | aestil | but that ended up helping me less than the LR video, which is truely top notch. probabably the best overall video i've ever seen. |
| 07:55.13 | Xuerian | lr? |
| 07:55.14 | aestil | http://files.filefront.com/Kaelthas+Sunstrider+++TACTIC/;8354826;;/fileinfo.html |
| 07:55.17 | aestil | there's the aussie one. |
| 07:55.19 | aestil | last resort |
| 07:55.50 | aestil | d/l and watch both, if A) you have any intrest in killing him, or B) you like cool video's of complex fights. |
| 07:56.12 | Xuerian | Eh, just watching it in-browser, not gonna sit through a 500mb dl |
| 07:56.18 | aestil | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:56.32 | Xuerian | They should put it on stage6 |
| 07:56.34 | aestil | because yeah, a 19 min fight or something |
| 07:56.36 | aestil | no. |
| 07:56.37 | Xuerian | wmv is full of fail |
| 07:56.46 | aestil | learning P2 is very important. |
| 07:56.48 | aestil | P3 is insance. |
| 07:56.54 | aestil | there are only 5 phases? |
| 07:57.01 | aestil | P4 is also insance. |
| 07:57.05 | aestil | P5 is like... super easy. |
| 07:57.55 | aestil | once you have everyone alive at that stage btw. |
| 07:58.15 | aestil | both video's are worth watchign in full, in high rez. |
| 07:59.24 | Xuerian | Why wmv. |
| 08:00.04 | aestil | free/easy to get? |
| 08:00.24 | Xuerian | XVid/DivX are free/easy to get too (Not both, necessarily) |
| 08:00.56 | aestil | i had to read long and relativly frustrating FAQ's on xivd encodes. |
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| 08:16.41 | aestil | dunno anything about why wmv is good or fail. |
| 08:17.33 | aestil | isn't wmv = VC1? |
| 08:19.34 | Brunera | there already is a quite good kaelvideo on stage6 |
| 08:20.08 | aestil | WTF is kael stage 6? i count 5 stages. |
| 08:20.55 | Brunera | its 5 |
| 08:22.45 | Brunera | advisors, weapons, all advisors, kael, kill phase |
| 08:22.59 | Brunera | http://www.stage6.com/Warcraft-Tactical-Guides/video/1756432/Kaelthas-Sunstrider---tactical-guide |
| 08:24.08 | aestil | i linked that video. |
| 08:24.24 | Diao | you linked filefront wmv :O |
| 08:24.28 | aestil | the aussie |
| 08:24.30 | aestil | the girl talking |
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| 08:25.45 | Brunera | isnt she talking chineese or something at some point in there? |
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| 08:26.15 | aestil | i don't think so. |
| 08:27.09 | Brunera | kael has to be easy now with the 10% hp nerf |
| 08:27.18 | aestil | easy? still a challenge to learn |
| 08:27.28 | aestil | easier to kill once you've already killed him. |
| 08:29.05 | Diao | the accent doesn't sound aussie to me |
| 08:29.07 | Diao | o_o |
| 08:29.16 | Diao | it's almost like she's trying to fake one lol |
| 08:29.18 | aestil | about as hard to learn as it used to be i think. |
| 08:29.54 | Brunera | 10% off weapons and advisors isnt it? |
| 08:30.05 | aestil | P1 is irrelevant. |
| 08:30.10 | Brunera | thats like huge |
| 08:30.11 | aestil | P2 and P3 yes, 10% easier. |
| 08:30.15 | aestil | yes. |
| 08:30.41 | aestil | but the challenge in learning isn't about dps. |
| 08:31.00 | Brunera | p2 and p3 is all about dps |
| 08:31.06 | aestil | if you have the dps, you can kill him, if you don't you won't. |
| 08:32.18 | Aenslaed | 10% off makes it much easier because its less chances to go totally wrong. Phase 4 is just auto wipe sometimes |
| 08:32.19 | aestil | P2 and 3 are hard for organizational, logistical reasons imo. |
| 08:32.55 | Aenslaed | someone gets MC'd and beats the shit out of one of your healers. Phoenix somehow doesn't die or dies in a bad area. All correctable mistakes but still wipes. |
| 08:33.03 | Brunera | i killed him 4 times before the 10% nerf |
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| 08:33.36 | aestil | my point is, that making P2 and 3 lowers the needed dps entry to the fight, but still doesn't make it easy to beat. |
| 08:33.37 | Aenslaed | heh. Did you do it before the adviser phase 1 nerf? |
| 08:33.52 | aestil | P4 and 5 are still blocks to the fight, that have nothing to do [really] with how much dps you have. |
| 08:34.05 | aestil | who cares about P1? since it has almost 0 impact on P2. |
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| 08:34.22 | Aenslaed | aestil: cause it used to take 13 minutes almost |
| 08:34.23 | Brunera | p1 is just running around |
| 08:34.45 | aestil | yes. ok. i suppose. 1 more attempt? |
| 08:34.46 | Aenslaed | kinda sucks when every attempt is automatically delayed that long |
| 08:34.54 | aestil | maybe 2 more a night? |
| 08:34.56 | aestil | while learning. |
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| 08:34.59 | Aenslaed | thats huge |
| 08:35.06 | aestil | i suppose. |
| 08:35.11 | Aenslaed | guilds on kael right now probably dont raid more than 3 times a week |
| 08:35.25 | Aenslaed | 2 attempts, probably forever between attempts. |
| 08:35.26 | aestil | we learned him on a 3 night a week schedule. |
| 08:35.30 | aestil | forever? |
| 08:35.38 | aestil | we have wipe protection up for 80% of wipes. |
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| 08:35.48 | Aenslaed | oh, i'm afk rez me when you get back! oh, grabbing a beer, brb! |
| 08:35.54 | Aenslaed | I need to repair guys, gonna hearth! |
| 08:36.01 | aestil | wow, shitty raiders imo. |
| 08:36.03 | Aenslaed | all stuff you'd expect on a casual raiding guild |
| 08:36.13 | Aenslaed | and those are the guilds on kael/stuck on kael |
| 08:36.14 | aestil | one advantage to 3 nights a week is people don't burn out as often. |
| 08:36.16 | Brunera | repairing is done each time you wipe |
| 08:36.18 | aestil | my guild is casual. |
| 08:36.33 | aestil | we repair on that 1 in 5 time we dont' have wipe protection up. |
| 08:37.07 | Aenslaed | thats great. But how long does it take for you to pull the boss after the last man dies? |
| 08:37.15 | Aenslaed | 5 minutes? 10? |
| 08:37.27 | aestil | normal amount of time it takes between wipes on a boss? |
| 08:37.32 | aestil | faster than archimonde, thats for sure. |
| 08:37.36 | aestil | archimnode is fail. |
| 08:37.38 | Aenslaed | toss in a 13 minute phase 1, thats almost half an hour on busy work. |
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| 08:38.10 | aestil | i see your point. |
| 08:38.23 | aestil | but still, it didn't effect the difficulty of the fight in any appreicable way. |
| 08:38.37 | aestil | it affects how many nights you may have to pull to get it. |
| 08:38.38 | Keias | Argh |
| 08:38.41 | Keias | Blackrock is offline :( |
| 08:38.56 | Xinhuan | BR DOWN!!! |
| 08:38.56 | Xinhuan | to argent dawn!!! |
| 08:38.59 | aestil | on night 2 we were hitting P4 with a good look. |
| 08:39.17 | aestil | but P4 was instant wipe cause nothing was in place. |
| 08:39.24 | Keias | I just started a new mage too >< |
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| 08:43.10 | aestil | actually, 10% less dmg in p2 and 3 meant we brought an extra healer. so i guess it made it easier. |
| 08:43.23 | aestil | but realistically, a guild learning would still have to learn the fight. its more than just dps. |
| 08:43.38 | aestil | the less dps needed means you can shitty dps, or more flexible group makeup. |
| 08:43.52 | aestil | keep in mind, we had a FF strat for P2, since we have 2 raiding locks 2 raiding mages. |
| 08:44.13 | Brunera | FF strat? |
| 08:44.19 | aestil | focus fire. |
| 08:44.35 | Brunera | aha, we had ff on our first kill |
| 08:44.48 | aestil | we just don't have enough AoE classes for it. |
| 08:45.00 | Brunera | second we did aoe since we had the needed classes |
| 08:45.05 | Brunera | and it was a one shot |
| 08:45.18 | buu | AESTIL |
| 08:45.20 | buu | LAWLALWEAWLEWA |
| 08:45.25 | aestil | buu what is up? |
| 08:45.27 | aestil | vashj down? |
| 08:45.43 | buu | aestil: No =[ |
| 08:45.47 | buu | FUCKING FAILURES |
| 08:45.56 | aestil | its not really that easy of a fight. |
| 08:45.57 | Brunera | we did vashj with 3 hunters, no bats at all |
| 08:46.01 | aestil | very steep learning curve. |
| 08:46.06 | aestil | Brunera: :) |
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| 08:46.23 | aestil | we kill her before the enrage obviously, bats have never been a problem except the first kill. |
| 08:46.29 | aestil | buu: burnout? |
| 08:47.13 | Brunera | before we learned to use a hunter to kill bats it was an insane amount of slimy shit on the floor |
| 08:47.30 | Brunera | what do you use to kite striders? |
| 08:47.35 | aestil | lock. |
| 08:47.51 | aestil | we hit P3 with 0 striders and 2 naga, which are tanked. |
| 08:48.00 | aestil | and all dps goes to vashj. |
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| 08:48.10 | Brunera | we started with hunter kiting, which failed badly:P then we used a shaman to kite |
| 08:48.27 | Brunera | which is working really good |
| 08:48.54 | aestil | shaman is good, we have an elemental shaman killing striders 100% of the time. it ensures that the striders are slow enough. |
| 08:49.36 | aestil | our first KT kill had all the advisors but telonicus down [he was almost down] when P4 poped. |
| 08:49.38 | Brunera | my biggest problem as a hunter on strider kiting was aggro |
| 08:50.16 | aestil | which is why, i don't feel it was that hard. the dps wasn't an issue, even with our FF strat, which has much narrower margin for error. P4 was much harder for us to get 'right'. |
| 08:52.00 | Brunera | the new american pie movie is fail |
| 08:52.01 | aestil | this techincal video says to kill the pheonix's, which we don't do. |
| 08:52.21 | aestil | we just let them hellfire themselves, and call out for dps to be on the egg. |
| 08:52.40 | Brunera | we do dps on pheonixes if theres nothing else to do |
| 08:52.50 | aestil | like in P5? yeah, ok. |
| 08:52.52 | aestil | but in P4? |
| 08:52.58 | aestil | much rather have that dps on KT. |
| 08:53.35 | aestil | we had our MT die from a fireball + no healing mace buff at the end of P4. we got him to hit P5, and our offtank got aggro. |
| 08:53.55 | aestil | seriously, i've never been so blown away by any one display of heads up ability. |
| 08:54.06 | aestil | he'd never been to P4/5 of the fight before. |
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| 08:55.22 | aestil | yeah, she speaks like chinese or soemthing. |
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| 08:55.38 | aestil | at the end. |
| 08:55.42 | Brunera | its not english atleast |
| 08:55.52 | aestil | she says BHOAHBLOBHBOAH BOHBOHAOHBOHBA |
| 08:55.59 | aestil | only in that language. |
| 08:56.28 | thul | [09:00:00] < aestil> free/easy to get? |
| 08:56.28 | thul | [09:01:00] < Xuerian> XVid/DivX are free/easy to get too (Not both, necessarily) |
| 08:56.36 | thul | [09:00:00] < aestil> free/easy to get? |
| 08:56.37 | thul | [09:01:00] < Xuerian> XVid/DivX are free/easy to get too (Not both, necessarily) |
| 08:56.39 | thul | [09:01:00] < Xuerian> XVid/DivX are free/easy to get too (Not both, necessarily) |
| 08:56.56 | Brunera | "ok" |
| 08:57.38 | thul | hmm |
| 08:57.41 | thul | that was just weird |
| 08:57.41 | aestil | that video is detailed, but was ultimately not helpful to me, as much as the last resort video was. |
| 08:57.48 | thul | my client is bugging |
| 08:57.56 | thul | that was like a hour ago |
| 09:09.16 | aestil | house is a pretty strong tv drama |
| 09:09.26 | aestil | like, as predicitable as it.s |
| 09:09.48 | aestil | still good. |
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| 09:14.30 | Lukian | who's mod is IceHud? |
| 09:14.40 | Lukian | I have an issue with the castbar disappearing during casts |
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| 09:16.06 | Keias | argh |
| 09:16.10 | Keias | GFG Blackrock :| |
| 09:17.05 | Xinhuan | frostmourne has 700 queue |
| 09:17.10 | Xinhuan | blackrock has 600 |
| 09:17.12 | Diao | blackrock is chaincrashing |
| 09:17.16 | Xinhuan | barthilas has 800 queue right now |
| 09:17.20 | Diao | "error retrieving character list" |
| 09:17.22 | Xinhuan | gg oceanic realms |
| 09:17.33 | Xinhuan | everyone getting "internal bag errors" atm |
| 09:17.36 | Xinhuan | and d/cing |
| 09:17.52 | Xinhuan | just cleared half the trash in BT + crash inc gg |
| 09:17.58 | Lukian | Xinhuan, hahha |
| 09:18.03 | Lukian | Jubei is ok atm |
| 09:18.08 | Diao | lol |
| 09:18.13 | Xinhuan | favourite /1 chat atm |
| 09:18.14 | Xinhuan | is |
| 09:18.20 | Xinhuan | "WHO PULLED RAZORGORE????" |
| 09:20.00 | Xinhuan | buffs fading and stuck at "0s" remaining now |
| 09:20.05 | Xinhuan | zz |
| 09:20.35 | Diao | lol |
| 09:21.02 | Diao | still can't get to character list :( |
| 09:21.13 | Xinhuan | "guilds that can't kill razorgore, pls zone out now" lol |
| 09:21.22 | Keias | lol |
| 09:21.24 | Diao | hahaaha |
| 09:22.18 | Xinhuan | atm in game in my raid of 25 |
| 09:22.22 | Xinhuan | only 9 are online |
| 09:22.30 | Xinhuan | and the only thing that is working is /1 and /raid |
| 09:22.44 | Xinhuan | everyone else running into walls |
| 09:22.59 | Diao | lol |
| 09:23.05 | Diao | character list just started working |
| 09:25.48 | Xinhuan | so ppl start logging in |
| 09:25.55 | Xinhuan | but nobody can cast anything |
| 09:27.48 | Lukian | I wonder if there's a buff/debuff server in the cluster :p |
| 09:27.58 | Xinhuan | this reminds me of something interesting |
| 09:28.04 | Xinhuan | that happened to my guild 1 year ago |
| 09:28.14 | Xinhuan | what happened was aq40 instance fucked up |
| 09:28.25 | Xinhuan | ppl released but cuoldn't get ressed |
| 09:28.30 | Xinhuan | and instance crashed |
| 09:28.54 | Xinhuan | when server came online, these ppl found themselves "alive" but unable to move in the instance at twin emps room |
| 09:29.01 | Xinhuan | about 12 ppl |
| 09:29.07 | Xinhuan | their char was stuck |
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| 09:29.26 | Xinhuan | so they had to get a petition to teleport themselves out |
| 09:29.32 | Xinhuan | so a gm did just that |
| 09:29.43 | Diao | lol |
| 09:29.45 | Diao | uh wtf |
| 09:29.50 | Diao | one of my guildies is online |
| 09:29.52 | Xinhuan | but other ppl like me were able to zone back into the instance to still see "wax figures" of those ppl |
| 09:29.56 | Diao | guild list says her location is "unknown" |
| 09:29.56 | Xinhuan | still in twin emps room |
| 09:29.57 | Diao | ??? |
| 09:30.08 | Xinhuan | while they were alive outside in stormwind |
| 09:30.16 | Xinhuan | 5 of these ppl decided to go run diremaul |
| 09:30.26 | Xinhuan | and some guildie decided to zone in and aggro twin emps |
| 09:30.41 | Xinhuan | twin emps killed the wax figures and the corresponding ppl in diremaul died |
| 09:30.44 | Xinhuan | at the same time |
| 09:31.00 | Diao | lol |
| 09:31.03 | Xinhuan | it was hilarious, since after releasing, they found their ghost in stormwind |
| 09:31.09 | Diao | being in 2 places at once |
| 09:31.09 | Xinhuan | and their corpse in dire maul |
| 09:31.10 | Diao | that's pretty awesome |
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| 09:31.18 | Xinhuan | so they couldn't rez |
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| 09:37.38 | kebinusan | I had something like that happen to me once |
| 09:37.51 | kebinusan | my corpse was in winterspring but I was at a graveyard in ungoro |
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| 09:39.03 | kebinusan | Also had a server crash while we were in MC and somehow ended up at the graveyard in desolace |
| 09:39.15 | Xinhuan | BR DOWN! |
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| 09:41.55 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
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| 09:42.37 | Keias | hi |
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| 09:47.00 | Diao | also, lol |
| 09:47.05 | Diao | just streamed to the end of that tactical video finally |
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| 09:51.38 | cncfanatics | ooooh |
| 09:51.43 | cncfanatics | blizz fixed the /cast Attack bug |
| 09:51.44 | cncfanatics | wooot |
| 09:53.21 | Diao | bug? |
| 09:56.21 | [Ammo] | first spell in your general tab of your spellbook you could not /cast |
| 09:56.25 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r56751 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (8 files): Bartender4: actually apply settings when the addon loads |
| 09:56.26 | [Ammo] | for germans that was Angeln |
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| 10:03.21 | harldephin | how do i call someone inviting me into a party when he's like level 55 and in dire maul and i'm like level 10 and in mulgore and when i decline the invitation and try to talk to him he doesn't react? |
| 10:03.41 | harldephin | now is that a bot or is it just some stupid ass doing stupid things and ignoring me |
| 10:03.47 | Civrock | Ni hao? |
| 10:04.05 | nevcairiel | maybe he misspelled a name on invite, and now just pretends nothing happend ? :P |
| 10:04.23 | harldephin | should say so then |
| 10:05.32 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: so .. is bt4 usable yet? |
| 10:05.34 | harldephin | he's got a pretty normal name and a guild, so i don't know what to think about it |
| 10:06.03 | nevcairiel | just dont think too much about it o.O |
| 10:06.09 | Wogroipl | someone trying to reset DM? |
| 10:06.12 | harldephin | Civrock: ni hao. |
| 10:06.24 | Orionshock | . |
| 10:06.25 | Orionshock | ? |
| 10:06.33 | Nargiddley | someone who hasnt realised that instance reset is a built in command maybe |
| 10:06.57 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: no its not |
| 10:07.03 | harldephin | and who hasn't realised how to answer to a whisper. i see. |
| 10:07.19 | Orionshock | im a beta tester by heart ... so nevcairiel soon as it becomes useable / viable say so... |
| 10:12.28 | cncfanatics | fb2>bt4 imo :p |
| 10:12.58 | nevcairiel | you cant compare fb to bt |
| 10:13.01 | Wogroipl | I wish fb2 had a GUI :s |
| 10:13.14 | Wogroipl | I cba ro set up with slash commands |
| 10:13.16 | cncfanatics | it will have one soon enough wogroipl |
| 10:13.26 | Kemayo | Are there any examples out there of what *can* be set up with fb2? |
| 10:13.39 | cncfanatics | Kemayo, pretty much everything thats allowed by blizz can be setup |
| 10:13.44 | nevcairiel | fb is a bloatbar with options for everything, bt has always been slim and kinda minimalistic |
| 10:14.03 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, its modular ... |
| 10:14.06 | cncfanatics | you enable the options u want ... |
| 10:14.33 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 10:14.35 | Funkeh` | So, lets add tons fo shit, but its modular so it doesn't matter? |
| 10:14.41 | Funkeh` | right |
| 10:14.43 | cncfanatics | ehm no |
| 10:14.51 | cncfanatics | the shit, as you call it, is not builtin |
| 10:14.57 | cncfanatics | so you go get it if you want it |
| 10:15.02 | cncfanatics | and if you don't, well, you don't |
| 10:15.14 | Funkeh` | Its separate addons? |
| 10:15.21 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 10:15.26 | cncfanatics | yes Funkeh |
| 10:15.29 | cncfanatics | oh, and for the record |
| 10:15.38 | cncfanatics | "bloatbar" takes less memory then the slim & minimalistic bar |
| 10:16.25 | nevcairiel | gui uses alot of memory |
| 10:16.59 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: for me it doesn't since it would be the only Rock enabled thing, which adds 1.5M |
| 10:17.31 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], thats why I'm going to ace3 soon |
| 10:17.36 | cncfanatics | recoding for ace3 after my exams |
| 10:18.01 | Kemayo | Ah, poor ck, he's losing the war for our hearts and minds. |
| 10:18.33 | cncfanatics | war ? what war ? :o |
| 10:18.41 | cncfanatics | I come in peace ! |
| 10:19.37 | Diao | that's what happens when you don't update for months! |
| 10:20.54 | cncfanatics | lol, riiiight |
| 10:21.03 | kebinusan | http://wwww.shutupandpull.com/kebinusan/BigMount.jpg |
| 10:22.09 | kebinusan | err an extra w in there |
| 10:22.10 | cncfanatics | Server not found kebinusan |
| 10:22.17 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.23 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r56752 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfig-3.0.lua: |
| 10:24.23 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConfig: |
| 10:24.23 | CIA-12 | - allow to pass a table of chat commands to AceConfig-3.0 |
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| 11:26.57 | thul | Bruners? |
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| 11:33.30 | Pkekyo| | mornin' all |
| 11:33.36 | Diao | hello |
| 11:33.57 | Diao | so i have finally decided that warriors are op and i'm going to roll the underdog class of warlock since all the skilled players play warlock |
| 11:34.32 | chexsum | bleh |
| 11:34.34 | buu | YES |
| 11:34.37 | Diao | as shown by the final 4 in world 2v2 arenas being lock/druid, lock/druid, lock/druid and rogue/priest |
| 11:34.45 | Diao | warriors are too ezmode so i must join the warlocks |
| 11:34.48 | chexsum | roll elemental shaman imho |
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| 11:34.57 | chexsum | 2 shot everything in the game |
| 11:35.35 | chexsum | shammys are the most op atm |
| 11:35.54 | thul | HMM |
| 11:36.01 | thul | i can't say that i agree |
| 11:36.10 | thul | i have ez-mode on elemental and ench shamans with my rogue |
| 11:36.23 | thul | resto shamans, warriors, mages and hunters on the other hand |
| 11:36.37 | chexsum | in 5v5 they can do 12kCL followed by huge LO damage |
| 11:37.11 | thul | I have yet to see a 4k, 4k, 4k CL |
| 11:37.20 | thul | and well, LO is _not_ very likely. |
| 11:37.20 | chexsum | they make healing really hard when they constantly change target and spam their easymode buttons |
| 11:37.25 | thul | haha |
| 11:37.32 | chexsum | i see it all the time |
| 11:37.35 | Diao | 20% is pretty likely imo |
| 11:37.36 | thul | opposed to locks, mages and priests? :-) |
| 11:37.46 | chexsum | im a 495 res priest |
| 11:38.11 | chexsum | shammys own the crap out of me |
| 11:38.12 | thul | show me a youtube shaman that does 4k, 4k, 4k consistantly |
| 11:38.36 | chexsum | its common |
| 11:38.52 | chexsum | i have to heal it so notice it all the time |
| 11:39.21 | chexsum | they drop full mercilless people faster than any other class |
| 11:39.23 | thul | "its common" doesne't help me :-) |
| 11:40.10 | Diao | why would i roll elesham |
| 11:40.30 | chexsum | the best 1v1 against anything imho |
| 11:40.45 | Diao | but i want to show my skill |
| 11:40.48 | Diao | so i'm joining the warlocks |
| 11:41.23 | chexsum | warlocks are too easy |
| 11:41.49 | chexsum | you may as well put /lol infront of all your spells |
| 11:42.04 | Diao | but all the skilled players play lock! |
| 11:42.06 | Diao | :P |
| 11:42.35 | chexsum | i love soloing locks because theyre the toughest to beat |
| 11:42.51 | chexsum | well rogues are but theyre just imbalanced vs a holy priest |
| 11:43.05 | thul | to get 4k chain lightning (on the last target), you would have to have like 2000 spell damage |
| 11:43.05 | chexsum | at least locks have to have a real battle |
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| 11:43.20 | buu | chexsum: Dude, if a holy priest solos a lock, he should delete |
| 11:43.21 | thul | i hardly see much resilience or armor NOR any other stat on such a shaman in arena. |
| 11:43.31 | chexsum | trinketted |
| 11:43.43 | buu | Drainlife? |
| 11:44.03 | chexsum | i beat them all the time |
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| 11:44.37 | chexsum | ive beaten gladiator ranked locks that were melguard spec |
| 11:44.39 | thul | so.. people with insane spell damage, that trinket (without any from your team interrupting) CAN do lots of damage if they have 2000 spell damage unbuffed? :-P |
| 11:44.43 | buu | chexsum: That's .. terrible |
| 11:44.48 | chexsum | thats the hardest for a priest because of stuns |
| 11:44.49 | thul | get it. |
| 11:44.56 | Pkekyo| | lmao...I just love websites where you can scroll the bloody header! |
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| 11:45.18 | chexsum | if a lock drains mana then i lose 100% of the time but most arent that smart |
| 11:45.20 | buu | chexsum: How exactly do you fail at casting drain life.. |
| 11:45.32 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: pingaling! BT4 close to completion? |
| 11:45.38 | chexsum | shield screws up most locks |
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| 11:45.47 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: no |
| 11:45.51 | buu | chexsum: I guess. |
| 11:45.55 | chexsum | sl/sl is easy mode for a holy priest |
| 11:45.55 | buu | I'd just .. dispell it. |
| 11:46.11 | chexsum | hardest for anything but holy priest imho |
| 11:46.22 | buu | How is it.. easy mode? |
| 11:46.46 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: could you do me a favour though? position reset for individual bars? I've had to reset entire setups because I've managed to lose certain bars off-screen :p |
| 11:46.50 | chexsum | with felguard spec theres no piont wasting mana dispelling stuff you need gcd to kill them |
| 11:47.14 | buu | chexsum: I love my lawlguard |
| 11:47.19 | buu | But I need to dispell polys =[ |
| 11:47.23 | chexsum | with sl/sl everythings dispellable and they are screwed if they dont drain mana :) |
| 11:47.58 | chexsum | the worst lock is felguard that spams drain mana |
| 11:48.13 | chexsum | nothing you do as a holy priest will help |
| 11:48.38 | buu | IT'S BEGINNING TO LOOK A LOT LIKE FISHMEN |
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| 11:49.29 | buu | Well, yeah, if a priest is spamming dispells I'd just go to fear/drain mana |
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| 11:49.58 | thul | chexsum: I'm checking the top-teams on the arena ladder here, I have yet to find any shaman that could do a 12k Cl, even buffed and trinketed :-P |
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| 11:50.20 | chexsum | aff with felhound is really hard but most of them dont drain mana |
| 11:50.34 | chexsum | they think they can win by dot dmg |
| 11:51.09 | buu | chexsum: Well, you'd think they'd get bored of recasting dots |
| 11:51.37 | buu | Well, obviously a UA lock would be lawl win. |
| 11:51.45 | chexsum | i love killing 41 pt locks |
| 11:51.54 | chexsum | hybrids are easymode to kill though |
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| 11:52.52 | chexsum | i think if i went dish/holy id have close to 100% against locks now |
| 11:53.05 | thul | I generally like chewing trough cloth |
| 11:53.20 | chexsum | id lose against heal classes though |
| 11:55.13 | chexsum | last time i tried the new disc talent it sucked |
| 11:55.59 | Diao | focused will? |
| 11:56.07 | chexsum | yeah |
| 11:56.09 | Diao | it rocks against hunters and rogues |
| 11:56.20 | Diao | my really badly geared priest |
| 11:56.27 | Diao | which has like 700 +healing |
| 11:56.30 | chexsum | i tried the first incantation of it and died a lot more than with BR |
| 11:56.34 | Diao | can flash heal for like 2k+ noncrit |
| 11:57.21 | chexsum | im 41 pt holy with a couple of points in better flashheal and think its better for support healing :\ |
| 11:57.46 | chexsum | ive gained 400 heal since ptr though so disc might be ok |
| 11:57.56 | Diao | i crit a binding heal for like |
| 11:57.59 | Diao | 3.xk the other day |
| 11:58.01 | Diao | with 3 stacks of focused will |
| 11:58.06 | Diao | of course my target only got a 2k crit :( |
| 11:58.20 | chexsum | i crit for over 3k on binding heal regularly |
| 11:58.36 | Diao | you probably have at least 1600+ healing? |
| 11:58.47 | chexsum | if they put a talent to negate heal debuffs in disc id be sold |
| 11:58.48 | Diao | my priest is an alt with level 60 blues =) |
| 11:59.01 | chexsum | nah 1400 in pvp gear |
| 11:59.19 | Diao | !c us blackrock dailox |
| 11:59.20 | chexsum | ive got 3 HWL pieces and 2 merciless dps pieces :( |
| 11:59.21 | ThraeBot | Diao: Dailox, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (42/19/0). 6991 HP; 9752 Mana; 227 mana regen; 93 mp5; 26 spell crit; 302 +spell dmg; 702 +heal; 4.98% dodge; 85 resilience;[[ TBR: 1269 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a2q2b ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2va262 ][ Updated: Sun Dec 9 07:00:39 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:59.28 | Diao | that's my priest |
| 11:59.29 | Diao | lol |
| 11:59.53 | chexsum | !c us barthilas chamberlaine |
| 11:59.55 | ThraeBot | chexsum: Chamberlaine, Level 70 Undead Priest (24/37/0). 10611 HP; 9405 Mana; 213 mana regen; 88 mp5; 13 spell crit; 531 +spell dmg; 1357 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 495 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1451 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28y8nn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33avsm ][ Updated: Sun Dec 9 07:01:13 2007 EST ]] |
| 12:00.32 | sb | mhhh 495 :o |
| 12:00.33 | sb | wtb |
| 12:00.36 | chexsum | thats not updated |
| 12:00.36 | Diao | i'll have the vindicator's mooncloth boots today though |
| 12:00.45 | Diao | so that'll be a nice boots |
| 12:00.50 | Diao | from my current crap |
| 12:01.06 | chexsum | if i bought mooncloth merciless shoulders/gloves id be a lot happier |
| 12:01.23 | chexsum | vindicators owns |
| 12:01.29 | chexsum | ive got it all now |
| 12:01.54 | Diao | i still need to get neck and ring |
| 12:01.56 | Diao | my warrior is fully decked |
| 12:02.00 | Diao | can't buy him anything else |
| 12:02.06 | chexsum | my res is that high with crappy blue pvp gear because i use a couple of +8 gems and +15 on robe |
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| 12:02.10 | Diao | but he still sucks in 2v2 and 3v3 |
| 12:02.13 | Diao | worthless class |
| 12:02.14 | Diao | :( |
| 12:02.21 | chexsum | i think they broke honor with 2.3 |
| 12:02.23 | thul | Diao: does time slam right after swing work still? |
| 12:02.27 | Diao | yes it does |
| 12:02.32 | thul | k |
| 12:02.34 | chexsum | im flat out getting 3k/day now |
| 12:02.39 | Diao | o_O |
| 12:02.43 | thul | hmm |
| 12:02.46 | Diao | i did like 10 hours of pvp yesterday since my finals are over |
| 12:02.51 | Diao | i got 9.8k honor |
| 12:02.57 | thul | a guy in my guild do 15-20k honor each saturday |
| 12:02.59 | chexsum | just before patch i got 8k/day for about 6 hours of bgs |
| 12:03.10 | thul | I never do more than 2-3k honor in one sit |
| 12:03.12 | thul | I get mad. |
| 12:03.12 | Diao | dunno, i'm not noticing a honor difference |
| 12:03.14 | chexsum | nfi |
| 12:03.37 | thul | Diao: but using a slow 2h + imp slam + timing is hax? |
| 12:03.44 | chexsum | im working now so it might be the reason but it feels like its broke |
| 12:04.00 | Diao | uh |
| 12:04.03 | chexsum | horde is losing wsg/ab a lot more also |
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| 12:04.08 | chexsum | on bg9 |
| 12:04.10 | Diao | if you have the spare rage it's pretty good |
| 12:04.14 | Diao | heh |
| 12:04.22 | Diao | i have no problems winning every game |
| 12:05.05 | chexsum | theres more health now but people are still dying fast |
| 12:05.07 | Diao | i have some magic luck with games (bg9 as well) |
| 12:05.07 | Diao | the only games i lose are the good premades |
| 12:05.07 | Diao | we were even beating bad premades earlier today |
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| 12:05.21 | thul | well, it costs the same as HS? |
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| 12:05.42 | chexsum | what does imp slam do compared to normal slam ? |
| 12:05.53 | chexsum | i barely see it as a holy priest |
| 12:06.00 | Diao | reduces cast time |
| 12:06.03 | Diao | from 1.5 to .5 |
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| 12:06.11 | Diao | you should never be using HS with 2h |
| 12:06.12 | Diao | except in pvp |
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| 12:06.20 | thul | Diao: well, I'm lvl 30 |
| 12:06.23 | Diao | oh |
| 12:06.24 | thul | it's not like i have any options |
| 12:06.25 | Diao | yeah |
| 12:06.28 | Diao | imp slam is ownage at 30 |
| 12:06.31 | thul | slam or hs |
| 12:06.38 | thul | so.. I use slam now, and time it with a slow 2h |
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| 12:06.41 | Diao | yeah |
| 12:06.47 | Diao | definitely owns at that level |
| 12:06.51 | thul | lower numbers, but the dps is better |
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| 12:09.23 | thul | planning on getting the whirlwind axe now at 31, and then getting rockpounder from ulda at 40 |
| 12:09.49 | Polarina | ChatThrottleLib has one design flaw that annoys me.. |
| 12:11.50 | chexsum | ugh @ waitring on a 500 queue only to forget about it then seeing disconnect into a 150 qqueue lol |
| 12:16.06 | thul | Ì hate leftists :-( |
| 12:16.48 | Orionshock | WOOT |
| 12:16.56 | Orionshock | HKM down - less than 30 attempts |
| 12:17.04 | Orionshock | between 2 nights |
| 12:17.36 | cncfanatics | sigh, time to study shitty maths |
| 12:17.37 | cncfanatics | boooo |
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| 12:21.47 | Orionshock | there a stance dance macro for warriors for gruul |
| 12:23.18 | Orionshock | ie: /cast [stance:2] Zerker Stance /castsequence [stance:3] Intercept, Defenseive stance |
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| 12:26.38 | Diao | grats orion |
| 12:26.41 | Diao | and what is that macro for |
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| 12:29.41 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3270772528&sid=1 this thread is amazing |
| 12:31.41 | thul | i wanted to answer |
| 12:31.43 | thul | but i can't |
| 12:31.46 | thul | since I'm european |
| 12:31.57 | Diao | lol |
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| 12:32.10 | thul | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.36 | thul | "i don't know what you guys do with your cows (when you have it IN you, it is most likely an ox), but please don't share" |
| 12:32.39 | thul | or.. |
| 12:32.41 | thul | "in you? really?" |
| 12:32.44 | thul | or.. |
| 12:32.44 | thul | well, endless options |
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| 12:39.18 | Pkekyo| | what's the cooldown on PCT nowadays? |
| 12:39.18 | Fisker- | 3 months |
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| 12:40.40 | Pkekyo| | what's with the rapes nowadays? >.< |
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| 12:40.40 | thul | well, idiots. |
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| 12:41.57 | thul | which do you guys like more: http://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/art/Piano-71713066 or http://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/art/Piano-II-71713048 |
| 12:41.57 | thul | ? |
| 12:42.14 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 12:42.14 | Diao | 2nd one looks cleaner |
| 12:42.14 | Diao | :P |
| 12:42.25 | Diao | first one is blurry |
| 12:42.36 | Pkekyo| | #2...although...GET A FUCKING TRIPOD :p |
| 12:42.44 | thul | bah :-( |
| 12:42.51 | thul | it is depth of field, not movement :-P |
| 12:42.57 | thul | and i have a very nice carbon fibre tripod thank you.. ;-) |
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| 12:43.18 | [dRaCo] | II is better, yeah |
| 12:43.23 | thul | thanks for the comments :-) |
| 12:44.11 | Wobin | heehee http://www.explosm.net/comics/1086/ |
| 12:44.23 | thul | explosm < * |
| 12:44.24 | thul | hmm |
| 12:44.25 | thul | > * |
| 12:48.58 | Pkekyo| | lmfao |
| 12:48.58 | Pkekyo| | just failed the shartuul event because I fucking managed to kill the boss before it lifedrained me |
| 12:49.03 | Xinhuan | woo won wand off gurtogg bloodboil |
| 12:49.46 | thul | hmm |
| 12:49.54 | thul | anyone here on horde side at ravencrest eu? :-P |
| 12:52.13 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 12:52.31 | Pkekyo| | did ravencrest die yet? |
| 12:52.43 | Pkekyo| | haven't heard jack shit about the axemen for ages |
| 12:52.52 | thul | good point |
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| 12:56.37 | Higdur | thul: yup |
| 12:56.42 | Higdur | not online though |
| 12:58.08 | thul | well, me neither right now |
| 12:58.17 | thul | how much G do you want to boost me trough my whirlwind quest later? :-P |
| 12:59.06 | Higdur | hehe |
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| 12:59.18 | Higdur | don't have time today I'm afraid :( |
| 12:59.29 | thul | well, I'm working all day today, so that is ok:P |
| 12:59.31 | Higdur | doing an uni assignment now and raid tonight :( |
| 12:59.36 | thul | but tomorrow or later :-P |
| 13:00.00 | Higdur | possibly :) |
| 13:00.06 | thul | :-D |
| 13:00.11 | Higdur | just /w at some point |
| 13:00.21 | Higdur | I've got no idea what you need to do on the quest though |
| 13:00.36 | Higdur | never done it |
| 13:00.53 | thul | me neither |
| 13:00.56 | thul | Pkekyo| knows? :-P |
| 13:03.13 | Pkekyo| | thul: huh? |
| 13:03.25 | thul | hmm, i thought you had a war? :-P |
| 13:04.11 | Pkekyo| | yes I do |
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| 13:04.54 | Pkekyo| | howso? |
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| 13:05.56 | Pkekyo| | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1791 get to reading |
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| 13:08.22 | thul | http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2670/newuiip9.jpg <- nice ui |
| 13:09.17 | Pkekyo| | meh |
| 13:09.22 | Pkekyo| | too clean :p |
| 13:12.11 | thul | it can never be too clean :-D |
| 13:12.20 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r56755 10/branches/BasicMinimap/: create folder |
| 13:12.31 | thul | Higdur: it is killing a few mobs in arathi and then killing a lvl 40 elite mob :-P |
| 13:13.51 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56756 10BasicMinimap/ (. BasicMinimap.lua BasicMinimap.toc Mask.blp): BasicMinimap: Initial commit, move and scale the minimap, hide the buttons. |
| 13:13.54 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHM8xG6i8o |
| 13:14.06 | Higdur | thul: ok |
| 13:14.36 | thul | Higdur: I'll check if you are on the next time I'm on :-) |
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| 13:14.43 | Higdur | I'll be on Higdur or Higgadin |
| 13:14.48 | thul | k |
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| 13:27.15 | kebinusan | episodes 11 and 12 of dexter s2 got leaked /happydance |
| 13:31.07 | Fisker- | O |
| 13:31.08 | Fisker- | L |
| 13:31.09 | Fisker- | D |
| 13:31.14 | Fisker- | btw |
| 13:31.38 | Wobin | wow |
| 13:31.38 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEhT2QlRBMo&feature=related |
| 13:31.45 | Wobin | That's really a very good music video |
| 13:32.02 | Wobin | the same 20second clip 'zoomed' in to different sections |
| 13:32.33 | Wobin | Plus Stipes with his usual completely spastic dancing =) |
| 13:32.56 | Fisker- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34067 <-yay i can sell it for 5g |
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| 13:34.07 | Wobin | I can't imagine the amount of direction to get all those different sections filmed so well |
| 13:38.09 | Pkekyo| | is it just me, or is BottomScanner rubbish? |
| 13:38.12 | Industrial | Fisker-: what 5g? |
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| 13:38.21 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: its just you it pwns |
| 13:38.26 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: it's just you |
| 13:38.35 | Pkekyo| | how to get it to pwn? |
| 13:38.45 | Polarina | How does the addon MobHealth work? |
| 13:38.46 | Industrial | check the settings? |
| 13:38.55 | Pkekyo| | Industrial: ....? |
| 13:39.07 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: the settings, yes? |
| 13:39.16 | Pkekyo| | you've got to be a bit more specific than that |
| 13:39.20 | Industrial | Polarina: check damage dealt versus percent hp lost |
| 13:39.43 | Polarina | Industrial: Where does it display that health? |
| 13:39.46 | Fisker- | Industrial yeah 5g |
| 13:39.47 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 13:39.54 | Industrial | Fisker-: isnt that a bit low? |
| 13:39.55 | Fisker- | didn't know you could |
| 13:40.00 | Industrial | Polarina: the front end has to support it |
| 13:40.00 | Fisker- | it's better than 0g |
| 13:40.16 | Industrial | Fisker-: i;d sell for 20g minimum :P |
| 13:40.28 | Polarina | Industrial: Does it remember the total health? Does it use the health displayed when I do a Beast Lore on a mob? |
| 13:40.53 | Industrial | Polarina: check it out I dunno :P its not really that useful (for me) |
| 13:40.59 | Polarina | Industrial: Front end? |
| 13:41.03 | Polarina | Industrial: What front end? |
| 13:41.04 | Industrial | unit frames |
| 13:41.16 | Industrial | ? |
| 13:41.16 | Pkekyo| | IndustrialPolarina: check damage dealt versus percent hp lost <--- usually unitframes/hud |
| 13:41.26 | Polarina | Pkekyo|: Does it work with the default UI? |
| 13:41.44 | Industrial | Polarina: yes there is MobHealth_Blizzardblah |
| 13:41.47 | Pkekyo| | no idea, I'd rather kill myself than use the default ui :) |
| 13:41.55 | Polarina | Industrial: Thanks. |
| 13:41.58 | Xinhuan | uh |
| 13:42.07 | Xinhuan | mobhealth3 is just a "library" |
| 13:42.22 | Xinhuan | that will use combat log information to estimate the health of your current target |
| 13:42.23 | Ellipsis | Industrial, are you feeling ok? |
| 13:42.38 | Xinhuan | it then provides an API to query the hp of said mob |
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| 13:42.53 | Xinhuan | that unitframe addons can use if they detect that MobHealth is loaded |
| 13:43.04 | Polarina | Cool. :) |
| 13:43.06 | Xinhuan | most unitframes upport MH3 |
| 13:43.09 | Polarina | Does it remember the mobs health? |
| 13:43.16 | Xinhuan | if you set it to, yes |
| 13:43.20 | Xinhuan | the default is no |
| 13:43.25 | Polarina | Command? |
| 13:43.26 | Industrial | you can set it to but it's accurate enou..sigh |
| 13:43.30 | Industrial | Ellipsis: nope normal |
| 13:43.36 | Xinhuan | type /mobhealth3 |
| 13:43.43 | Industrial | Polarina: just LOOK>?!w/. |
| 13:43.43 | Polarina | Ok, thanks again. |
| 13:44.28 | Fisker- | nice |
| 13:44.33 | Fisker- | auctioneer managed to get up to 19MB |
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| 13:44.41 | Fisker- | and that's only auc-advanced :I |
| 13:44.41 | Xinhuan | making it save across sessions is useful for bosses |
| 13:44.56 | Xinhuan | in the sense that next week you meeet that boss again, you have the info already |
| 13:45.05 | Xinhuan | instead of re calculating per game session |
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| 13:45.49 | Xinhuan | it takes a weighted average as well, so if you kill the same boss many times, it will arrive on a more accurate overall figure over time |
| 13:45.59 | Ellipsis | Industrial: are you sure? you kinda were helpful just now |
| 13:46.17 | Pkekyo| | meh...15/25 people signing up for lootreaver >.< |
| 13:46.51 | Industrial | Ellipsis: yeah I dunno I uh.. |
| 13:47.18 | Industrial | dunno :\ |
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| 13:47.22 | Industrial | weird. |
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| 13:47.54 | Daemona | pfff my btm.scan is already 8mb and you complain about 19mb auct-adv -. |
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| 13:48.22 | thul | hmm |
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| 13:48.36 | thul | should i START to cast slam right after white hits, or start it just before the white hits land? |
| 13:49.12 | vhaarr | after white hit |
| 13:49.22 | vhaarr | when your weapon starts swinging |
| 13:51.22 | thul | ah, ok |
| 13:51.31 | Industrial | oh hm |
| 13:51.42 | thul | so i shoudln't try to "time" it so i start the slam when the white hit has 0.4 sec left? |
| 13:52.00 | Industrial | slam is just like steady shot in that you can put it in your rotation between autoshot/swings? |
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| 13:52.36 | thul | slam resets the swing timer |
| 13:52.45 | thul | so if you time it around when it resets anyway, you get most out of it |
| 13:52.46 | thul | or something? |
| 13:52.50 | vrak | isn't the point of slam to time it so it goes off after a white swing and resets the swing timer (thus causing another white hit) ? |
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| 13:53.24 | vhaarr | your normal swings stop while casting it |
| 13:53.50 | vhaarr | so start casting it while your weapon swings for the next attack |
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| 13:55.48 | thul | k' |
| 13:56.09 | Industrial | pally question |
| 13:56.34 | Industrial | with reckoning and seal of command are the extra reckoning swings capable of proccing seal of command? |
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| 13:57.00 | Industrial | that'd be kinda AESUM wouldnt it o_O |
| 13:57.24 | Polarina | MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames is buggy! |
| 13:57.24 | Industrial | fix it! |
| 13:57.25 | Polarina | Annoyingly buggy. |
| 13:57.45 | thul | i like playing ret-pala |
| 13:57.51 | Industrial | Fix it better. |
| 13:58.01 | Polarina | Why do I have to fix it? |
| 13:58.11 | Industrial | because you are the one that has a problem with it |
| 13:58.11 | break19_ | because you are complaining about it.. |
| 13:58.18 | break19_ | ind: d'oh, ya beat me |
| 13:58.30 | Funkeh` | Starting sentances with because is bad mkay. |
| 13:58.36 | Industrial | thul: mine is 20 and just got SoC, looking at my options :> |
| 13:58.40 | Polarina | Industrial: It's not my personal preference that makes me find it buggy, it IS biggy. |
| 13:58.40 | break19_ | Funkeh`: because why? |
| 13:58.46 | Polarina | s/biggy/buggy/ |
| 13:58.49 | Funkeh` | break19, Thats better. |
| 13:58.52 | thul | Industrial:P I have a lvl 64 pala, he was my main befor etbc :-) |
| 13:59.25 | Industrial | Polarina: well wether it is your personal preference to play with buggy software or not isn't my decision but I don't use the addon at all, so I suggest you fix it. |
| 13:59.41 | break19_ | Polarina: you in windows, mac or other? |
| 13:59.53 | break19_ | I'll tell ya how to fix it.. |
| 14:00.01 | Polarina | break19_: It doesn't affect how the addon works. |
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| 14:01.12 | break19_ | maybe not.. assuming Mac, type this into a command prompt: rm -rf /Applications/World\ of\ Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames |
| 14:01.23 | thul | hehe |
| 14:01.26 | Polarina | break19_: lol |
| 14:01.28 | break19_ | I guaranteee you will never have another bug with that addon :) |
| 14:01.38 | thul | or, rm -rf /* |
| 14:02.22 | break19_ | thul: heh.. yea well.. you'd have to be root, and root is disabled by default, thought you could sudo if you really wanted to :p |
| 14:02.22 | Polarina | break19_: The thing is, it works, but when I hover with my mouse over the mobs health/mana bar, the addons and Blizzard's health/mana status appear at the same time. |
| 14:02.43 | break19_ | Polarina: yea.. it wasnt updated since 2.3 changed the frame.. |
| 14:03.03 | Xinhuan | people still use the default blizz frames? :o |
| 14:03.05 | Polarina | break19_: :( |
| 14:03.10 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I do. |
| 14:03.23 | break19_ | Xinhuan: its clean and smooth |
| 14:03.36 | break19_ | I can definitely see why people use it. |
| 14:04.08 | Xinhuan | it lacks info on many accounts by default |
| 14:04.19 | break19_ | in fact, on my bg twink rogue I always just use the default frames |
| 14:04.24 | Xinhuan | like not displaying health numbers |
| 14:04.31 | break19_ | Xinhuan: yes it does. :p |
| 14:04.41 | break19_ | just not for targets.. which is an estimation anyway |
| 14:04.43 | Xinhuan | it didn't used to then |
| 14:05.02 | thul | break19_: I have root enabled:P |
| 14:05.22 | break19_ | they improved the UFs in 2.3, which broke a few UF tweaks. :) |
| 14:06.06 | break19_ | Polarina: seriously tho.. any reason you -need- mh3 ? I mean other than an ocd compulsion to know how much HP your enemy has? |
| 14:06.21 | break19_ | personally. I dont care what his hp is as long as he dies.. |
| 14:06.26 | Xinhuan | break19: it is actually useful in an arena |
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| 14:06.35 | Polarina | break19_: I'm mostly testing out some addons. :) |
| 14:07.02 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56757 10BasicMinimap/ (. BasicMinimap.lua BasicMinimap.toc): BasicMinimap: You can now choose circular/square |
| 14:07.18 | Xinhuan | also useful on soloing mobs out there for quests, if the mob < 300 health, i would just wand it, < 800, i would scorch, < 2k i would fireblast, etc |
| 14:07.20 | break19_ | Polarina: I think there's another set of uf's out there with the exact look n feel of the bliz ones, with more info.. that actually -work- cant remember atm tho |
| 14:07.28 | Polarina | break19_: Trying to figure out what would be the best way to banish them from the world, much like my addon Valuation did. :) |
| 14:08.53 | break19_ | oh, this little addon makes those default frames look sweeet http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7698-rUF.html |
| 14:08.55 | chexsum | cheap wine is amazing |
| 14:09.32 | Ellipsis | argh |
| 14:09.39 | Xinhuan | is basicminimap similar to simpleminimap? |
| 14:09.42 | Ellipsis | who was it that was complaining about WoW not taking keyboard focus yesterday |
| 14:09.46 | Ellipsis | because I totally just about did the same thing |
| 14:09.49 | break19_ | Ellipsis: me |
| 14:09.58 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 14:10.02 | Ellipsis | you |
| 14:10.11 | Ellipsis | I feel your pain |
| 14:10.24 | break19_ | heh |
| 14:10.31 | chexsum | you need a g15 like me |
| 14:10.43 | Ellipsis | I *have* a G15 |
| 14:10.58 | break19_ | well an external kb wont fit on my lap if I have the laptop in my lap as well.. :p |
| 14:11.07 | chexsum | PEBKAC then imho |
| 14:11.20 | Ellipsis | how does a G15 make you type text into an unfocused window? |
| 14:11.30 | break19 | Ellipsis: OS ? |
| 14:11.34 | chexsum | magic |
| 14:11.35 | Ellipsis | win xp |
| 14:11.40 | break19 | yay |
| 14:11.45 | chexsum | ok thats the problem then |
| 14:11.52 | Polarina | If I fix MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames, can I commit it to the SVN? |
| 14:11.52 | Ellipsis | yes, yes it is |
| 14:11.56 | break19 | up YOURS mac haters.. it aint just a mac problem :p |
| 14:11.58 | chexsum | you need turbo linux! |
| 14:12.17 | Ellipsis | I need a new computer |
| 14:12.21 | Ellipsis | so I can wipe this one |
| 14:12.22 | break19 | me too. |
| 14:12.48 | break19 | this little G4 ibook is not exactly a gaming machine.. 32M video card. lol |
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| 14:12.55 | chexsum | have you tried hitting the turbo button ? |
| 14:13.15 | break19 | lol |
| 14:13.27 | break19 | *duck* |
| 14:14.07 | chexsum | *chexsuma $10 wine absorbs breaks stfu ray* |
| 14:15.27 | Xuerian | WHAT NAO |
| 14:16.03 | chexsum | now what are you going to do! |
| 14:16.06 | Xuerian | I actually have one of those. |
| 14:16.19 | Industrial | a gnome mage? |
| 14:16.24 | Industrial | INIFDEL |
| 14:16.26 | Xuerian | A 2m trident :p |
| 14:16.40 | Industrial | oh ok |
| 14:16.58 | Xuerian | Naw, I'd never have a gnome mage. |
| 14:17.01 | Xuerian | That'd be retarded. |
| 14:17.07 | Xuerian | .... I have a gnome warlock. |
| 14:17.21 | break19 | oh, Industrial, question about that pally spec.. which tree you filling up first, since you said you were gonna use it as a leveling spec |
| 14:17.23 | thul | [15:14:00] < UchihaItachi> dont go looking imba to alts u dumbass u prick motherfucking retard too bad i dont know u irl i would broke u an arm and beat the shit out of u |
| 14:17.27 | thul | people confuse me |
| 14:17.47 | chexsum | me too :( |
| 14:17.58 | chexsum | so lame |
| 14:18.09 | chexsum | what color of hair have you got ? |
| 14:18.11 | Xuerian | That's because you make redundancy errors. |
| 14:18.40 | break19 | Xuerian: yea.. he makes redundancy errors.. repeatedly, AND over and over again.. |
| 14:18.59 | Xuerian | One would almost say the cycle is... cyclic. |
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| 14:19.29 | break19 | Xuerian: not just cyclical.. its so cyclical, its deja vu-cyclical. |
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| 14:20.27 | Xuerian | It's worthy of ... that.. black guy... that... does.... lots of... action.... movies.... last name jackson. First name, I forgot. >.o |
| 14:20.42 | break19 | heh |
| 14:21.02 | chexsum | just call him brother |
| 14:22.27 | Xuerian | s/shagin/shagrin/ |
| 14:22.43 | Xuerian | PERL WTF NAO |
| 14:22.56 | chexsum | !shagrin |
| 14:22.56 | Xuerian | ~botslap |
| 14:22.57 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, xuerian! |
| 14:23.00 | chexsum | fui |
| 14:23.11 | Xuerian | Purl: Wakey wakey, EGGS AND BAKEY |
| 14:23.12 | chexsum | imma hax you mofo@ |
| 14:23.54 | chexsum | s/deb/dev |
| 14:24.02 | haste | use dd instead |
| 14:24.14 | chexsum | im too drunk to dd |
| 14:24.33 | haste | lies |
| 14:25.51 | chexsum | has anyone in australia ever gotten a tv tuner working ? |
| 14:26.19 | break19 | whats a tv? is that like... a big computer with no keyboard? |
| 14:26.35 | chexsum | nfi |
| 14:26.37 | break19 | thats so 1970s. |
| 14:26.45 | break19 | tv.. psh |
| 14:27.06 | chexsum | i want to watch the simpsons :( |
| 14:27.39 | break19 | if the tv is on, in my house, we're either watchin some lame-ass chick flick, or nick.. needless to say, I exit the room when the wife reaches for the remote.. |
| 14:27.46 | chexsum | and blue heelers |
| 14:28.27 | chexsum | tuesday tv is so cool |
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| 14:36.42 | Industrial | I don't watch tv |
| 14:36.45 | Industrial | I download series |
| 14:36.56 | Industrial | oh I do watch the enws in the morning usually at 8am |
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| 14:42.15 | chexsum | never heard of it |
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| 15:00.28 | Primak | wow just run a pug AB as horde >_< |
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| 15:00.35 | Primak | won* rather |
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| 15:01.25 | Xinhuan | is that supposed to be a hard? |
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| 15:20.02 | break19 | primal, horde nearly always wins AB on our server. |
| 15:21.07 | cncfanatics | anyone bored ? |
| 15:22.40 | Polarina | In AtlasLoot, when I right click on a item marked Item Unavailable, it won't display the tooltip, I can right-click on it as many times as I want, but nothing happens... It works to right-click on all the other items. |
| 15:23.36 | Polarina | What gives? |
| 15:25.16 | cncfanatics | zZzZzZzZz |
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| 15:25.55 | Lukian | Polarina.. |
| 15:26.00 | Kalroth | Polarina: Maybe the item hasn't dropped on the server yet. Or it was right after a downtime and the few people with the item hasn't logged in yet. |
| 15:26.10 | Lukian | yeah I was about to say that ^^ |
| 15:26.16 | Polarina | Kalroth: I'm not disconnected.. |
| 15:26.26 | Kalroth | No, they fixed that in 2.2.x |
| 15:26.31 | Polarina | ? |
| 15:26.38 | Lukian | There's no more item disconnects |
| 15:26.39 | Kalroth | You don't get disconnected from trying to link an item that hasn't dropped |
| 15:26.47 | Polarina | Why? |
| 15:26.59 | Kalroth | Because it was a bug that you did? |
| 15:27.02 | Lukian | because we like to flood the server with item requests, while raiding |
| 15:27.07 | Lukian | :P |
| 15:27.27 | Lukian | and being disconnected while raiding isn't much fun! |
| 15:27.50 | Polarina | Flood? |
| 15:28.22 | Polarina | Why flood the server? |
| 15:28.24 | Kalroth | They kill bosses so fast that them looting the epics spams the server. |
| 15:28.57 | Kalroth | Polarina: Can I ask you a personal question? You wouldn't happen to be female AND blonde? |
| 15:29.08 | Polarina | Kalroth: Yes. |
| 15:29.15 | Lukian | Kalroth, even :D |
| 15:29.17 | Kalroth | poor Kalman |
| 15:29.26 | Kalroth | Even here I haunt him! |
| 15:29.29 | Kalroth | Polarina: Alright. :) |
| 15:29.32 | Ellipsis | needs less kal imo |
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| 15:30.01 | Kalroth | I can call myself Kaelroth, then I'd be cool, right?! |
| 15:34.50 | Polarina | Hurray! Flying corpses fly down! |
| 15:35.04 | Polarina | fall* |
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| 15:38.30 | Primak | hmmm im stuck in ghost form on an AB battleground |
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| 15:44.43 | FireAllianceNX | does anyone have issues with PTReagentsFu? |
| 15:45.21 | FireAllianceNX | none of the reagents are showing up :( |
| 15:45.35 | Polarina | I have a small question. If I made a library (Secure, of course) that can update your addons in-game, would you make your addon support it? |
| 15:45.53 | Industrial | no |
| 15:46.01 | Industrial | what |
| 15:46.02 | Industrial | how |
| 15:46.11 | Polarina | I'm just asking. :) |
| 15:46.25 | Industrial | no I mean, update how? |
| 15:46.31 | Polarina | It would not break any Blizzard rules or anything. |
| 15:46.36 | Polarina | Industrial: Using the addon channel. |
| 15:46.44 | Industrial | o_O |
| 15:47.24 | Industrial | nah it would enable people to corrupt others' addons so no |
| 15:47.45 | Polarina | Industrial: When I said "secure", I really meant it! |
| 15:48.45 | Industrial | but it would also mean your whole addon would need to be in the SV file? and how do you know what I am hooking etc when updating |
| 15:49.07 | Polarina | Industrial: Hooking? |
| 15:49.27 | Polarina | Industrial: The addon does not need to be in the SV file. |
| 15:49.44 | Industrial | then i don't understand what it's supposed to do |
| 15:50.20 | Polarina | Industrial: Don't look at the facts, just if the library would do what I said it would do. |
| 15:51.55 | Industrial | bt I'm a programmer how can I not want to know how it works |
| 15:52.07 | Ellipsis | it doesn't make sense for most addons to use that |
| 15:52.17 | Industrial | you cant touch the addon files in Interface/Addons |
| 15:52.24 | Polarina | Industrial: As for security, how does SSL Certificates work? |
| 15:52.34 | Ellipsis | maybe stuff that really heavily depends on syncing people on the same version, like a boss mod or threat lib |
| 15:52.50 | Polarina | Industrial: As for updated code, it stores the new code in the SV file, the actual code can just lie around a normal .lua file. |
| 15:52.52 | Ellipsis | but in most cases, let the user decide what version of the addon they want to run, or they will be sad pandas |
| 15:53.38 | Polarina | Industrial: To load the updated code, it replaces the code in the SV file over the function defined. |
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| 15:54.06 | Industrial | Polarina: but what if you have code not living in your own addon space eg hooked functions |
| 15:54.08 | thul | ahh |
| 15:54.10 | thul | scrubs :-D |
| 15:54.13 | Industrial | and function that you define local to a file |
| 15:54.13 | Industrial | etc |
| 15:54.15 | Polarina | Industrial: Of course, the library will know about the entire code structure of the addon, but it requires some work for the developer. Such as having all the functions stored within a table and such. |
| 15:54.22 | Industrial | right |
| 15:54.25 | Polarina | Industrial: ^^ |
| 15:54.44 | Ellipsis | so it requires you to break your code |
| 15:54.58 | Ellipsis | and what's the benefit of doing this exactly? |
| 15:55.01 | Industrial | Ellipsis: no, update :P |
| 15:55.06 | Industrial | It's a nice idea but I'm not sure I'd like it as a user |
| 15:55.24 | Polarina | Industrial: As I said, it does, obviously, require the developer to follow a basic structure standard, but it's nothing special. |
| 15:55.55 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 15:56.08 | Ellipsis | it is something special if you can't use local functions and your hooks all have to be wrappers |
| 15:56.16 | Polarina | Industrial: By special, I mean, something that might couse maintance nightmare and such. |
| 15:56.33 | Polarina | Ellipsis: Wrappers? |
| 15:56.59 | Ellipsis | yes, you couldn't use inline functions for your hooks because they wouldn't be updatable |
| 15:57.00 | Industrial | Ellipsis: nah you just have to list them and their targets |
| 15:58.01 | Polarina | Ellipsis: How wouldn't they be update-able? |
| 15:58.10 | Ellipsis | and you still haven't answered my question, what's the benefit of doing this? 99% of addons gain nothing from it |
| 15:59.10 | Ellipsis | uh, because they would be anonymous and you can't un-hook them without breaking the hook chain (unless your lib relies on a specific hooking lib?) |
| 16:00.18 | Polarina | Ellipsis: So people don't have to visit a addon site when one of their mates tell them "there's a new version of that threat meter available, you should update." in a middle of a raid. |
| 16:01.11 | Ellipsis | like I said before, syncing addons that need to be on the same version would benefit from it, yes |
| 16:01.16 | Ellipsis | but 99% of addons wouldn't |
| 16:01.35 | Ellipsis | does my bag mod need to auto-update? no |
| 16:01.41 | Ellipsis | what about my map addon? no again |
| 16:02.08 | Fisker- | hay Ellipsis |
| 16:02.15 | Fisker- | how long do you think your pathetic sorcery can hold me? |
| 16:02.21 | Ellipsis | forever, fishbot2 |
| 16:02.24 | Fisker- | owned |
| 16:02.29 | Ellipsis | die in a fire |
| 16:02.38 | Fisker- | die in a your mother |
| 16:02.40 | Ellipsis | eww |
| 16:02.57 | cladhaire | Polarina: its already been done, why would you _re_implement it |
| 16:03.04 | Polarina | cladhaire: It has? |
| 16:03.08 | cladhaire | and its severely limited to the point where it should only be considered or used in breakfix situations |
| 16:03.09 | cladhaire | of course, |
| 16:03.17 | cladhaire | we've talked about it three times over the past few days |
| 16:03.19 | Polarina | cladhaire: WHere? |
| 16:03.31 | cladhaire | foxlit wrote the infrastructure and shirik adapted it for use in RDX |
| 16:03.35 | cladhaire | the point is _whY_ |
| 16:03.40 | Polarina | cladhaire: Link. |
| 16:03.42 | cladhaire | there's no benefit to anyone |
| 16:03.42 | cladhaire | no |
| 16:03.46 | cladhaire | find it your self |
| 16:03.48 | cladhaire | or ask foxlit or shirik |
| 16:04.04 | Polarina | cladhaire: I'm not bothering looking through all the addons at AceSVN! |
| 16:04.12 | cladhaire | its not on the AceSVN |
| 16:04.18 | cladhaire | that's hwy i said.. ASK FOXLIT OR SHIRIK |
| 16:04.22 | cladhaire | i won't repeat myself again |
| 16:04.23 | Polarina | cladhaire: Ok. |
| 16:04.47 | cladhaire | its been done, its been used, and it has limitations that make it relatively useless except in a breakfix situation |
| 16:05.00 | cladhaire | the signing of patches takes too long, but only has to be done once |
| 16:05.09 | cladhaire | you get into a nightmare situation of p2p patch deployment, which is a bad idea |
| 16:05.20 | cladhaire | and an addon has to be structured in such a way to allow the updates |
| 16:05.25 | cladhaire | with no real benefit to the user or developer. |
| 16:05.43 | cladhaire | to list the short list :P |
| 16:05.49 | Polarina | Ok. :) |
| 16:05.50 | cladhaire | as Ellipsis and Industrial were saying |
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| 16:06.20 | Kalroth | I agree with Industrial, but not Ellipsis! |
| 16:06.24 | Polarina | cladhaire: You just made it understandable. Thanks. |
| 16:06.28 | Ellipsis | love you too Kalroth |
| 16:06.34 | cladhaire | no problem |
| 16:06.45 | cladhaire | again, you can ask foxlit for the basic info, and shirik for how he implemented it |
| 16:06.47 | cladhaire | it _worked_ |
| 16:06.52 | cladhaire | but that doesn't mean its a good diea |
| 16:06.58 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 16:09.14 | Polarina | I still don't understand why people, even the MVPs and Blues, link to sites who advertise gold selling sites on the WoW forums.. |
| 16:09.54 | cladhaire | ? |
| 16:09.58 | cladhaire | like who? |
| 16:10.03 | cladhaire | err like what links? |
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| 16:10.39 | Kalroth | lol |
| 16:10.46 | Polarina | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1828944161&sid=1 has a link to http://www.atlasmod.com/ who advertises a gold-selling site. |
| 16:11.17 | cladhaire | Dan doesn't intentionally serve gold ads |
| 16:11.25 | Ellipsis | if you go enough links deep you will eventually find something bad |
| 16:11.29 | Ellipsis | that's how the internet works |
| 16:11.40 | cladhaire | its rather difficult to find contextual ad hosting that doesn't have the occasional gold ad sneak in |
| 16:12.38 | cladhaire | ah well, back to editing the API reference |
| 16:12.44 | cladhaire | only 6/7 to go! |
| 16:17.00 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56758 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 16:17.00 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib |
| 16:17.00 | CIA-12 | Minor optimization |
| 16:17.44 | Lukian | Xinhuan, there we go! Jubei crashed :D |
| 16:17.52 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56760 10AlarBGHelper/ (8 files): |
| 16:17.52 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 16:17.52 | CIA-12 | Still optimizing addon communication |
| 16:17.58 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:18.42 | Lukian | Iceroth, poke poke. |
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| 16:24.26 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56761 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc localization.lua): |
| 16:24.26 | CIA-12 | AlarAutomation |
| 16:24.27 | CIA-12 | 3.1.0 |
| 16:24.27 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau track opens a panel to track farmed item |
| 16:24.27 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau watch watcher for buff, with /aau watch config |
| 16:24.27 | CIA-12 | you chooose which buff you want to be reminded about |
| 16:24.29 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.55 | Lukian | oo I found a Cart / ToFu bug |
| 16:28.38 | Fisker- | i hate magtheridon |
| 16:28.42 | Fisker- | I HATE HIM |
| 16:28.53 | Lukian | I hate raiding :D |
| 16:29.06 | Fisker- | I HATE YOU |
| 16:39.23 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56762 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.toc localization-zhTW.lua): |
| 16:39.23 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 16:39.23 | CIA-12 | Fixe zhTW skeleton |
| 16:39.32 | Chompers | no one kills mag now |
| 16:39.36 | Chompers | it's not worth it |
| 16:39.53 | Chompers | clear karazhan and get some badges if it's not a raid night |
| 16:41.54 | Xinhuan | new badges loot > magtheridon loot |
| 16:42.12 | Xinhuan | however, mag is a test of coordination |
| 16:42.26 | Xinhuan | at an entry level, as well as a gear check |
| 16:42.53 | Chompers | fisker was killing leo the other day |
| 16:42.59 | Chompers | so he's far ahead of mag |
| 16:44.38 | charon | Xinhuan: not for all classes/specs :( |
| 16:45.16 | thul | hehe |
| 16:45.22 | thul | new badges loot is that good? |
| 16:46.09 | charon | ilvl wise, yes it is |
| 16:46.19 | charon | maggy loot is 125, random badge item i looked up 128 |
| 16:48.30 | charon | but since i'm an egocentric emo bear, the situation more or less sucks because the only tanking chest items available are from sets... so because my raid thinks the way Chompers does, i had to go for s3 instead which is still inferior to t4 |
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| 16:51.05 | Chompers | horay for my thinking! |
| 16:51.28 | charon | can't blame you for thinking the way blizz does |
| 16:51.48 | charon | which seems to be "fuck ferals" |
| 16:52.52 | charon | (apologies for putting words in your mouth, i'm just generally frustrated) |
| 16:53.01 | Chompers | i understand |
| 16:53.20 | Arrowmaster | we have a feral druid that wants t4 chest too, and were in hyjal |
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| 16:54.11 | Fisker- | lolwut Xinhuan |
| 16:54.16 | Fisker- | i hate him BECAUSE HE DOES NOT DROP MY SHIELD |
| 16:54.19 | Fisker- | n00b |
| 16:54.23 | Fisker- | and badges loot = FUCKING RETARDED |
| 16:54.25 | charon | Arrowmaster: somehow i can see that coming for me too |
| 16:54.32 | Chompers | fisker = enraged |
| 16:54.34 | Fisker- | yes |
| 16:54.41 | Chompers | i want that karazhan shield |
| 16:54.44 | Chompers | looks sexy |
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| 16:55.34 | Fisker- | oh and btw |
| 16:55.39 | thul | I'm liking warrior so far |
| 16:55.49 | thul | but I don't think I'll part my rogue all the way. |
| 16:56.00 | Fisker- | who was the tard that thought paladins wanted spell haste? |
| 16:56.05 | Chompers | haha |
| 16:56.21 | Chompers | now my FoL are even further into GCD |
| 16:56.23 | Chompers | horay |
| 16:56.39 | Fisker- | yay! |
| 16:57.01 | Shirik | anyone here good with the TCP protocol and/or ethereal? |
| 16:57.04 | Lukian | You mean, spell haste doesn't alter the GCD for FoL? :p |
| 16:57.36 | Fisker- | yes |
| 16:57.50 | thul | tcp/ip is fun :-P |
| 16:58.26 | Ozguli- | -18:02:01- (+TNSe) can't be sheeped, can't be hamstringed, high armor, good cc, and makes noises wanting other team to /afk |
| 16:58.37 | Ozguli- | about boomkins on quakenet priest channel |
| 16:58.43 | Shirik | TCP and IP are two different protocls |
| 16:59.00 | Shirik | And I hate the fact that it is always shortened to TCP/IP |
| 16:59.15 | Chompers | so fisker |
| 16:59.28 | Chompers | this guy told me not to use FoL at all, only HL |
| 16:59.35 | Chompers | he's stupid right? |
| 16:59.44 | Shirik | yes he's stupid |
| 16:59.54 | Shirik | if you were a priest, that would be accurate |
| 16:59.57 | Shirik | (more accurate) |
| 17:00.03 | Chompers | he's a priest |
| 17:00.10 | charon | Shirik: my problems tend to go away when i threaten them with wireshark, does that count as "good"? |
| 17:00.13 | Shirik | then he doesn't know anything other than his own class |
| 17:00.21 | Shirik | and should shut up when talking to pallies |
| 17:00.23 | charon | there's a #tcpip btw |
| 17:00.35 | Shirik | is he your class lead or something? |
| 17:00.38 | Shirik | thanks charon |
| 17:00.40 | Chompers | new recruit |
| 17:00.45 | Shirik | kick him out |
| 17:00.46 | Chompers | telling everyone what to do |
| 17:01.06 | nekoh | im going guys, donot like you anymore |
| 17:01.15 | Shirik | I lead my healers, I don't have a problem with people giving advise to each other, but when they're telling incorrect advise |
| 17:01.20 | Shirik | I'd yell at him |
| 17:01.31 | Shirik | If you give advise you'd better know what the hell you're talking about |
| 17:01.54 | Shirik | in fact, to be specific, I yelled at a pally for using HL too much the other day |
| 17:01.59 | Shirik | so yes, you should be using mostly FoL |
| 17:02.11 | Chompers | i've only done a few bosses as a pally |
| 17:02.26 | Chompers | but HL seems more suited to the 'oh shit' moments |
| 17:02.28 | Shirik | FoL should always be used as it's your most efficient spell. HL should only be a |
| 17:02.29 | Shirik | yeah |
| 17:02.31 | Shirik | exactly |
| 17:02.42 | Chompers | Fol seems like my bread and butter heal |
| 17:03.12 | Chompers | i found HL rank 4 to be pretty sweet when used with Blessing of Light |
| 17:03.23 | [Ammo] | it is |
| 17:03.23 | Chompers | but very situational |
| 17:03.30 | [Ammo] | but downranking is quite nerfed |
| 17:03.39 | Chompers | and 1400 +heal doesn't do it justice |
| 17:03.39 | [Ammo] | but HL rank 4 with lots of +crit = good |
| 17:04.34 | Lonny | The only time you should use HL is when you use Divine Illumination and Divine Favor imo |
| 17:05.03 | Shirik | tbh I really don't downrank at all |
| 17:05.13 | Shirik | I don't tell people not to usually, because everyone has their own way of healing |
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| 17:05.19 | Shirik | but personally I don't find it effective anymore |
| 17:05.32 | Chompers | i did a karazhan with a t6 paladin last night, damn he was fast |
| 17:05.53 | Chompers | im normally the first person to get a heal on someone, this guy beat me without even trying |
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| 17:06.12 | Lonny | yeah true Shirik :P |
| 17:06.14 | Xinhuan | lua> 1/1.07 |
| 17:06.14 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0.93457943925234 |
| 17:06.29 | Xinhuan | lua> 1/1.07*3.5-0.5 |
| 17:06.29 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2.7710280373832 |
| 17:06.34 | Shirik | Chompers: How do you know he was trying :P |
| 17:06.48 | Chompers | casually talking in raid chat |
| 17:06.55 | Chompers | while healing :o |
| 17:06.58 | Shirik | l;ol |
| 17:07.22 | Shirik | still |
| 17:07.25 | Shirik | instant cast healing for 1k |
| 17:07.27 | Shirik | to the entire party |
| 17:07.29 | Shirik | is awesome :D |
| 17:09.03 | thul | lua> 2^2 |
| 17:09.04 | lua_bot | thul: 4 |
| 17:09.10 | thul | lua> 2^14 |
| 17:09.10 | lua_bot | thul: 16384 |
| 17:09.16 | thul | lua> 2^15 |
| 17:09.16 | lua_bot | thul: 32768 |
| 17:09.19 | thul | ho ho ho |
| 17:09.29 | Shirik | don't abuse the bot |
| 17:09.40 | thul | i have stopped already :-P |
| 17:10.03 | Shirik | How many times I've heard that one before |
| 17:12.20 | Xinhuan | hmm is losing 2.30% spellhit and losing -3.71% spelllcrit worth it to gain 6.60% spellhaste? |
| 17:13.09 | Xinhuan | (ignore that negative sign) |
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| 17:15.07 | Pkekyo| | meh....60g repairs >.< |
| 17:16.50 | charon | Xinhuan: what's your crit factor? |
| 17:17.05 | Xinhuan | crit factor? |
| 17:17.13 | Shirik | Xinhuan: How can you lose 2.3% to gain 6.6%? |
| 17:17.15 | Shirik | oh that's hit nm |
| 17:17.19 | Shirik | are you healer or dps? |
| 17:17.24 | Xinhuan | dps |
| 17:17.26 | Shirik | ow |
| 17:17.27 | Xinhuan | mage |
| 17:17.27 | charon | does a crit do 1.5/2.0/2.1/2.5 times the damage of a normal hit |
| 17:17.28 | Shirik | what's your dps atm? |
| 17:17.29 | Shirik | er |
| 17:17.31 | Shirik | what's your hit atm? |
| 17:17.33 | Xinhuan | 2.1 |
| 17:17.37 | Xinhuan | fire mage |
| 17:17.57 | Xinhuan | its 12% with 3% from talents +1% from shaman in party |
| 17:18.03 | Xinhuan | so 16% |
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| 17:18.14 | Shirik | 16% hit? |
| 17:18.21 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 17:18.58 | Xinhuan | i'm considering if its worth stacking spellhaste |
| 17:19.09 | Shirik | what spell do you use most often? |
| 17:19.13 | Xinhuan | but all the gear i see with spellhaste does not have spellcrit/hit |
| 17:19.19 | Xinhuan | fireball obviously ;p |
| 17:19.24 | Shirik | hey just checking :P |
| 17:19.27 | Xinhuan | and the occasional scorch |
| 17:19.31 | Shirik | I know some strange people |
| 17:19.43 | charon | lua> 1*.977*(1-0.0371*1.1)*1.066 |
| 17:19.43 | lua_bot | charon: 0.99897911958 |
| 17:19.49 | Xinhuan | there isn't much to a mage for a basic dps fight with little movement |
| 17:19.57 | charon | hard to say more without knowing your exact numbers |
| 17:20.19 | Xinhuan | what kind of numbers do you want |
| 17:20.23 | Shirik | lua> 3.5*(1-.066) |
| 17:20.23 | lua_bot | Shirik: 3.269 |
| 17:20.27 | charon | current crit for starters? |
| 17:20.36 | Xinhuan | 31.45% |
| 17:20.48 | Shirik | losing crit is irrelevant |
| 17:20.59 | Xinhuan | all i lose is master of elements bonus |
| 17:20.59 | charon | how so |
| 17:21.00 | Shirik | well, it's relevant |
| 17:21.04 | Shirik | but not directly |
| 17:21.08 | Xinhuan | which is mostly irrelevant with a spriest |
| 17:21.12 | Shirik | because you look at it this way |
| 17:21.20 | Shirik | You will cast 6.6% more fireballs |
| 17:21.35 | Shirik | that means 6.6% more opportunities to crit |
| 17:22.00 | Xinhuan | of that 6.6% more fireballs, 3% of it will miss |
| 17:22.04 | charon | 6.6% haste is simply a flat 6.6% increase to dps if you disregard stacking immolates and such |
| 17:22.12 | Xinhuan | by losing 2.30% hit |
| 17:22.20 | Shirik | yes, it is |
| 17:22.28 | Shirik | it's also a flat 6.6% increase to number of fireballs cast |
| 17:22.30 | charon | so i don't see how you can overlook crit in there |
| 17:22.39 | Shirik | I already stated why |
| 17:23.04 | Shirik | Xinhuan: Do you mean of 6.6%, 50% will miss? |
| 17:23.06 | Shirik | or 3%? |
| 17:23.13 | Xinhuan | 3% of 6.6% |
| 17:23.18 | Shirik | I'm not quite sure where you got the 3% from but ok |
| 17:23.26 | Shirik | you also have to factor in the others as well |
| 17:23.29 | Shirik | so it's... |
| 17:23.40 | Xinhuan | i.e about 1 in 200 |
| 17:23.58 | Xinhuan | because the chance a spell wil hit is 99% |
| 17:24.05 | Shirik | lua> 1.066 * (1-.023) |
| 17:24.05 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1.041482 |
| 17:24.07 | Xinhuan | and i sacrifice 2.30% spellhit |
| 17:24.10 | Shirik | that's raw hit increase |
| 17:24.13 | Xinhuan | to get that 6,6% haste |
| 17:24.23 | Xinhuan | so overall chance for a spell to miss is 3.3% |
| 17:24.23 | Shirik | you will have104.1482% spells hit compared to now |
| 17:24.35 | charon | lua> 1+0.3145*1.1 |
| 17:24.35 | lua_bot | charon: 1.34595 |
| 17:24.37 | Shirik | now let's look and compare this quantatitvely |
| 17:24.41 | charon | lua> (1+(0.3145-0.0371)*1.1)*0.977*1.066 |
| 17:24.41 | lua_bot | charon: 1.35927981748 |
| 17:25.00 | charon | should give better numbers than the one before i believe |
| 17:25.07 | charon | afk dinner |
| 17:26.10 | Shirik | lua> 1.066 * (1-.023) * (2.1*(1-0.0371) - 2.1) |
| 17:26.10 | lua_bot | Shirik: -0.08114186262 |
| 17:26.24 | Shirik | oopsie |
| 17:26.27 | Shirik | that's not right |
| 17:27.08 | Arrowmaster | lol @ new image on my guilds site www.abstract-guild.com |
| 17:27.23 | Shirik | lua> 1.066 * (1-.023) * (2.1*(1-0.0371)) |
| 17:27.23 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2.10597033738 |
| 17:27.35 | Shirik | lua> 1 * (1) * (2.1*(1)) |
| 17:27.36 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2.1 |
| 17:27.39 | Shirik | ha |
| 17:27.44 | Shirik | you have a minimal increase in DPS :P |
| 17:27.54 | Shirik | 0.59% |
| 17:28.16 | Shirik | ah crap, it was that I put the -2.1 in the parens |
| 17:28.18 | Shirik | that's why it didn't work |
| 17:28.23 | Shirik | lua> 1.066 * (1-.023) * (2.1*(1-0.0371)) - 2.1 |
| 17:28.23 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.00597033738 |
| 17:28.31 | Shirik | there, that's your effective DPS increase |
| 17:28.37 | Shirik | percentage-wise |
| 17:29.11 | Fisker- | paladin healing sucks btw :I |
| 17:29.20 | Xinhuan | i could have told you that if i just took the +6.6-2.30-3.71 = 0.59 |
| 17:29.27 | Shirik | oh god damn it |
| 17:29.36 | Shirik | all that work for nothing >< |
| 17:30.15 | Shirik | I said to myself "it's probably just add them all up" and then I was like "no I'm probably missing something" |
| 17:30.22 | Shirik | so I went and did the calculations all out |
| 17:30.48 | Xinhuan | i'm still considering the benefits of having a faster spellcast though |
| 17:31.05 | Shirik | there are other benefits I didn't calculate, of course |
| 17:31.09 | Shirik | faster debuff stacking |
| 17:31.12 | Xinhuan | if i had to move between 2.77-3.00 of a spellcast |
| 17:31.17 | Shirik | there are also disadvantages |
| 17:31.20 | Xinhuan | then i would gain 1 fireball |
| 17:31.22 | Shirik | oom faster |
| 17:31.50 | Xinhuan | or between 5.54-5.77 of a spellcast |
| 17:32.18 | Shirik | in pvp, spell haste is nice too :D |
| 17:32.20 | Xinhuan | i could effectively get off an extra fireball 6% more of the time if i had to move vs that |
| 17:33.20 | Xinhuan | do you know of anyone attempting to stack spellhaste? |
| 17:34.56 | Shirik | can't say I do |
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| 17:44.58 | aestil | spell haste is good for like a mage. |
| 17:45.11 | aestil | less good for a destro lock |
| 17:45.18 | aestil | even less good for an aff lock |
| 17:45.28 | aestil | and nearly useless for a SP |
| 17:45.58 | aestil | but its on a lot of BT gear, so we'll all get some of it. |
| 17:47.12 | ag` | It can be good for an SP |
| 17:47.17 | ag` | if you get enough of it |
| 17:47.21 | ag` | I can't remember how much |
| 17:47.29 | ag` | but it allows you to change your rotation |
| 17:47.34 | aestil | i hope i can kill someone to get into what for sure will be World of Starcraft beta. |
| 17:47.55 | aestil | well, only MF is affected by haste. |
| 17:48.05 | aestil | and MF is like our lowest DPSC |
| 17:48.16 | aestil | so, yeah, haste is good for it. |
| 17:48.19 | ag` | I can't remember it exactly |
| 17:48.26 | ag` | but it allows you to change the spell rotation |
| 17:48.37 | aestil | its just that i think you'd have to give up more +dmg than it would be worth. |
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| 17:49.18 | aestil | seriously though, who do you think i'll have to kill to get into what must surely be coming, the world of starcraft beta. |
| 17:49.19 | Megalon | didn't they change it so channeled spells also get haste? |
| 17:49.38 | aestil | Megalon: yes. thats why i said haste is good for MF |
| 17:49.49 | aestil | but thats our ONLY spell thats haste has any effect on. |
| 17:49.57 | Megalon | ah, mindflay, i read mindblast ;D |
| 17:50.29 | Xinhuan | theproblem with most of the available spellhaste gear is they are from ZA and heroic badges - they are slighltly weaker than bt-level gear itself |
| 17:51.09 | aestil | because of GCD issues, its not really helpfull to have a 1.3 second MF/SW:P/VT/SW:D |
| 17:51.20 | aestil | if GCD was reduced it would be a more noticeable improvment. |
| 17:51.30 | aestil | i need ZA, for malacrass, outside of that I don't really care. |
| 17:52.23 | Xinhuan | so while spellhaste might be good |
| 17:52.36 | Xinhuan | getting it means using "lower quality gear" |
| 17:52.48 | Xinhuan | so is kinda doesn't make up for it |
| 17:57.13 | ag` | if you have 199 haste you can use 5/5 MB |
| 17:57.35 | ag` | or so I've heard |
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| 18:14.29 | aestil | interesting. |
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| 18:17.18 | Amadeo | A pin drops |
| 18:18.57 | Gagorian | Did not. |
| 18:19.11 | Amadeo | A slime appears! |
| 18:23.04 | sdouble | /gasp |
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| 18:28.08 | aestil | how do i move aspect bar and tracking bar on my hunter? |
| 18:28.13 | aestil | no options apparently? |
| 18:28.59 | aestil | nvm |
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| 18:40.41 | CIA-12 | 03kbranch * r56763 10GearDPS/ (Core.lua GearDPS.toc Settings.lua): |
| 18:40.41 | CIA-12 | GearDPS: |
| 18:40.41 | CIA-12 | - Fixed a performance problem when comparing multiple items |
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| 18:49.55 | aestil | my minimap is blank, i reloaded, i loged in and out, and i deleted simpleminimap WTF and logged back in. any ideas? |
| 18:51.14 | kergoth | doesnt simpleminmap have a slash command option to reset/refresh the minimap? or am i thinking of a different addon? |
| 18:54.23 | cncfanatics | aestil |
| 18:54.26 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.27 | cncfanatics | try that ? |
| 18:54.33 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r56764 10HealOrganizer/ (3 files): |
| 18:54.33 | CIA-12 | HealOrganizer: |
| 18:54.33 | CIA-12 | - fix bug |
| 18:54.42 | kergoth | ah, that restart the video subsystem |
| 18:54.44 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:54.44 | nevcairiel | kergoth: squeenix has that command |
| 18:54.51 | kergoth | oh, right |
| 18:57.36 | aestil | cncfanatics: didn't work. |
| 18:58.29 | Orionshock | aestil: try /run smmConfig = nil /rl |
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| 19:00.03 | aestil | i copy pasted that line, nothing happend |
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| 19:03.08 | Orionshock | .... |
| 19:03.12 | Kalman| | aestil: Spell haste also has a small benefit on MB cycle time, since the cooldown starts at end of spell, but it's fairly minor; I still don't think it's a good spriest stat overall. |
| 19:03.14 | Orionshock | >.- |
| 19:03.24 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.33 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.46 | Orionshock | different slash commands |
| 19:04.23 | aestil | that completly reset my settings, but it didn't bring the minimap back orion |
| 19:04.43 | Kalman| | aestil: Is it missing, or is it black? |
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| 19:04.57 | Orionshock | ... |
| 19:05.10 | aestil | black |
| 19:05.13 | aestil | blank |
| 19:05.17 | aestil | i'm in the center |
| 19:05.20 | aestil | all black |
| 19:05.20 | Kalman| | Try changing the border skin. |
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| 19:05.28 | aestil | did that also |
| 19:05.32 | Orionshock | if you disable smm does it come back? |
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| 19:07.16 | aestil | wild. game minimap is just broken now i guess. |
| 19:07.25 | aestil | without SMM its also blank. |
| 19:09.07 | Orionshock | now try w/o any mods |
| 19:09.22 | Arrowmaster | it does that sometimes |
| 19:09.35 | Arrowmaster | if you do /console gxrestart it usually makes it break |
| 19:09.36 | Orionshock | if you did that and still nothing then ya, your screwed ... |
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| 19:13.47 | aestil | comes back if all mods are disabled. : / |
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| 19:17.11 | renchap | aestil: try to remove your WoW/Cache folder |
| 19:17.19 | renchap | (without wow running) |
| 19:19.53 | aestil | wow, thats something i've never removed. |
| 19:19.59 | aestil | delete it? or just rename it? |
| 19:20.32 | aestil | why would i need to remove this? |
| 19:21.40 | aestil | yeah, that didn't do anything |
| 19:25.47 | Orionshock | aestil: do you have something like ACP , that allows you to load and unload addons in game? |
| 19:26.04 | Orionshock | if so, enable all your libs, then enable one addon at a time till it dissapears |
| 19:26.15 | Orionshock | then, disable that last one and keep going |
| 19:26.58 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271183016&sid=1 <-btw lol |
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| 19:42.08 | aestil | orionshock |
| 19:42.09 | aestil | i win |
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| 19:42.19 | aestil | eepanels strata got messed up for that one pannel somehow. |
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| 19:43.20 | Deviad | Hello people |
| 19:43.29 | Orionshock | eeww |
| 19:43.33 | Orionshock | eepanels |
| 19:43.34 | Deviad | I need help with something: sometimes it happens that bar1 in fubar changes |
| 19:43.44 | Deviad | I mean all the buttons suddenly are different |
| 19:43.53 | Deviad | when it happens in combat it sucks |
| 19:43.58 | Deviad | the buttons are locked |
| 19:44.04 | Deviad | the bar too |
| 19:44.19 | Deviad | So, I guess it's a bug... have you ever had the same with bartender? |
| 19:44.36 | Deviad | I dunno what to do about it |
| 19:44.36 | Orionshock | Deviad: ok stupid questions first: did you update? did you nuke your wtf file for fubar? did you try reinstalling? |
| 19:44.56 | Deviad | Orionshock, it happens just some times.. not often |
| 19:45.03 | Deviad | but when it happens it sucks |
| 19:45.20 | Deviad | so since now I'm expert with it I get back to windows, kill the process |
| 19:45.28 | Deviad | get back in game, log in, exit the game, get in back |
| 19:45.29 | Deviad | :P |
| 19:45.37 | Deviad | and tada problem fixed |
| 19:45.38 | Deviad | :\ |
| 19:45.57 | Orionshock | random display glitch, have a day |
| 19:47.15 | Deviad | it doesn't happen at the login |
| 19:47.23 | Deviad | just randomly when I'm fighting |
| 19:47.35 | Deviad | not often luckily |
| 19:47.42 | aestil | orionshock, eepanels is like... i dunno how else to make the UI not ugly |
| 19:48.22 | Orionshock | well.. from the sound of it... it's an un-reproducible display glitch Deviad , so no we can't really help you |
| 19:48.46 | Orionshock | aestil: mine looks just fine, i don't use eepanels |
| 19:52.29 | Deviad | OK :( |
| 19:52.37 | Deviad | thx anyways |
| 19:53.57 | aestil | anyone know if cobra reflexes on pet is good for grinded |
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| 19:56.41 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56765 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 19:56.41 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib |
| 19:56.41 | CIA-12 | Debug hook added in ReApply |
| 19:57.22 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56766 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:57.22 | CIA-12 | AlarAutomation |
| 19:57.22 | CIA-12 | 3.1.0 |
| 19:57.22 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau safepet warns if your pet is aggressive when zoning |
| 19:57.22 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau track opens a panel to track farmed item |
| 19:57.25 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau watch watcher for buff, with /aau watch config |
| 19:57.26 | Gnarfoz | raiding rogues |
| 19:57.27 | CIA-12 | you chooose which buff you want to be reminded about |
| 19:57.33 | Gnarfoz | Tsunami Talisman or Warp-Spring Coil? |
| 19:58.00 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r56767 10AlarBGHelper/ (7 files): |
| 19:58.00 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 19:58.00 | CIA-12 | 3.1.0 |
| 19:58.00 | CIA-12 | Feature: AV Boss status is back as EXPERIMENTAL. Enable SYNC to test it |
| 19:58.00 | CIA-12 | Feature: Revamped panels. More intuitive and less invasive move/resize interface |
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| 20:00.42 | Gnarfoz | nm, warrior took it for all his dkp ^^ |
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| 20:03.37 | nevcairiel | tsuname is one of the best trinkets |
| 20:03.41 | nevcairiel | *tsunami |
| 20:08.25 | Varazir[NA] | I have a question about autobar |
| 20:08.55 | Varazir[NA] | How do I get my pet button stay on the lasted used ability ? |
| 20:09.45 | Varazir[NA] | I would like to have the heal spell as prime |
| 20:09.46 | break19 | ./atb config, click + by bars, click + by buttons, find your class button, click it, click "Rearrange on Use" voila |
| 20:10.03 | Varazir[NA] | tried that |
| 20:10.14 | break19 | i dunno then |
| 20:10.54 | break19 | whistle stays as the default for you? |
| 20:11.22 | Varazir[NA] | Going to test it some more |
| 20:11.35 | Varazir[NA] | yes |
| 20:11.39 | break19 | same.. prolly bugged then. gotta inform the author and wait for him to fix it... |
| 20:12.10 | break19 | personally. I just use king of the jungle, and only use the pet buttons for recalling/dismissing/etc my pet. I hit F12 to heal the pet. |
| 20:13.32 | Varazir[NA] | king of the jungle ? |
| 20:13.40 | break19 | yea. |
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| 20:14.11 | Varazir[NA] | addon ? |
| 20:14.13 | break19 | it gives you 2 buttons.. one movable Mend pet button, and one movable feed pet button, which only shows if the pet needs food, and auto-selects the food |
| 20:14.39 | Varazir[NA] | okay |
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| 20:23.14 | doktoreas | hello everybody |
| 20:23.42 | doktoreas | I am using omen and noticed that some friend of mine have got 56500 as latest version |
| 20:23.54 | doktoreas | but in the SVN the develop stops to 16 November |
| 20:25.01 | doktoreas | with revision: 55025 |
| 20:25.32 | charon | doktoreas: if omen tells you somebody has a "new revision", that's actually a new Threat-1.0 revision |
| 20:25.49 | charon | which is the backend library that actually calculates your threat and syncs with your group members |
| 20:27.00 | doktoreas | so the matter is that the omen package is not updated with latest threat= |
| 20:27.01 | doktoreas | ? |
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| 20:27.28 | nevcairiel | actually, it is |
| 20:28.11 | nevcairiel | http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen-r55025.24.zip <-- latest omen revision, sub-zip-reivison 24, with latest threat |
| 20:29.29 | sb | !ap 1500 |
| 20:29.30 | ThraeBot | sb: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 261, 3v3: 302, 5v5: 344 |
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| 20:36.24 | doktoreas | solved... |
| 20:36.32 | doktoreas | thx nevcairiel , charon |
| 20:41.50 | charon | btw antiarc, any news of my branch's future :) |
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| 20:59.59 | yasuo | hi |
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| 21:04.43 | yasuo | do you know an addon wich shows me who has dices for an item so i know if i can choose "need" to disenchant? |
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| 21:08.47 | Maxwell- | hey guys/gals, is there a place to read documentation on pitbull? |
| 21:10.11 | Maxwell- | especially on pitbull and hunter pets (how can I tell when my pet is hungry?) |
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| 21:18.30 | charon | Maxwell-: check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-2.0/Tags |
| 21:20.36 | Maxwell- | i'm not seeing anywhere to disply the happiness stuff |
| 21:20.57 | Maxwell- | maybe i'm just not understanding the pitbull terminology |
| 21:21.13 | break19 | Maxwell-: by default, it shows it in the pet's healthbar |
| 21:21.28 | break19 | Maxwell-: if the healthbar is green, happy, yellow, content, and red, unhappy. |
| 21:22.21 | Maxwell- | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 21:23.11 | break19 | you can also have it display as :) :| :(, respectively, in any of the texts if you so wish.. you'd have to customize it using DogTag format tho |
| 21:23.44 | break19 | (yes, it'll be exactly as I showed it.. textual smilies..) |
| 21:24.01 | Maxwell- | where do i enable that? |
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| 21:24.20 | Maxwell- | i like the colors, but i wouldn't mind the smilies, too |
| 21:25.59 | break19 | max, its in the "texts" submenu, click, for example, health, select custom type, and add in the tag.. tags are on the wiki, and Im late for work, sooo.. rtfwiki :) |
| 21:26.53 | Maxwell- | thanks! |
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| 21:41.49 | ckknight | question to the macheads: |
| 21:41.57 | ckknight | should I upgrade to Leopard? |
| 21:42.07 | ckknight | don't consider cost, I have the Leopard disc already |
| 21:42.17 | ckknight | I got a new Mac, and it came with the Leopard disc |
| 21:42.18 | durcyn | yes, you should, but do a clean install |
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| 21:42.46 | ckknight | durcyn: does it really affect that much? |
| 21:43.13 | ckknight | (not being judgmental or lazy, I want the truth) |
| 21:43.33 | dylanm | ckknight: It's worth doing, yes. |
| 21:43.35 | durcyn | ckknight: some optimizations, i like the new dock and time machine, spotlight seems faster |
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| 21:43.46 | thul | won't it slow down machine? |
| 21:43.48 | dylanm | Finder is better, Quicklook is awesome, and Spotlight is usable. |
| 21:43.53 | dylanm | Not really. |
| 21:43.54 | durcyn | i don't use any of apple's built-in applications though, so i can't speak to them |
| 21:44.02 | Wobwork | yay |
| 21:44.04 | Wobwork | level 41 |
| 21:44.06 | dylanm | I haven't noticed any decrease in performance. |
| 21:44.08 | Wobwork | in ProgressQuest =P |
| 21:44.08 | durcyn | eh, my mini seems to boot faster with 10.5 than 10.4.11 |
| 21:44.16 | durcyn | "seems" |
| 21:44.18 | dylanm | One thing nice about OS X is that really it has only gotten faster with each release. |
| 21:44.37 | ckknight | is it worth starting from scratch or updating from Tiger? |
| 21:44.43 | Wobwork | dylanm: ...nice? I'd hope that'd be expected behaviour? |
| 21:44.59 | ckknight | Wobwork: compared to Windows... |
| 21:45.00 | Xuerian | Wobwork: For anything but windows :p |
| 21:45.10 | Wobwork | >, |
| 21:45.12 | Wobwork | < |
| 21:45.29 | Wobwork | If that's not a sign that Windows needs replacing... =P |
| 21:45.59 | Xuerian | I can't be arsed to save up enough for a mac or deal with all my games on linux, though |
| 21:46.55 | Kalman| | ckknight: Updating's running pretty well for me. The quicklook enhancement in Finder is nice, the popup folders from the Dock as well. I don't use Time Machine, but it seems like it'd be nice to have around. |
| 21:47.36 | thul | i just use quicksilver |
| 21:49.15 | ckknight | once again, is it worth starting from scratch or updating from Tiger? |
| 21:49.27 | buu | Hrm. |
| 21:49.40 | dylanm | I always start from scratch, but that's just me. |
| 21:49.53 | buu | Is there anyway to trick Cartographer_Routes in to using treasure chest information? |
| 21:49.56 | thul | i always update:P |
| 21:49.57 | dylanm | I'll use any excuse to wipe a hard drive :p |
| 21:50.04 | thul | but that is beacause I like to have continuity |
| 21:50.51 | Wobwork | buu: Is there any zone that doing a chest trail would be useful? |
| 21:51.03 | buu | Wobwork: Um. All of them? |
| 21:51.10 | buu | I don't understand the question. |
| 21:51.25 | Xuerian | With a epic mount it's feasable that you could get some nice drops |
| 21:52.01 | Xuerian | Would be like farming gas clouds on a normal flier otherwise |
| 21:54.11 | RaydenUni | gas clouds? |
| 21:54.53 | Xuerian | Engineers can build mote extractors that let them extract motes from the air/nature/water/mana clouds that float in nagrand/zangarmarsh/netherstorm |
| 21:54.54 | buu | Well that's confusing. |
| 21:55.12 | buu | Where on earth does _Routes look for the data? |
| 21:56.08 | Xuerian | It's a ace addon; therefore it must pass through at least three libs |
| 22:00.14 | Wobwork | It probably uses notes |
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| 22:01.28 | Gnarfoz | it uses the data recorded by _herbalism and _mining, which are probably cut-down clones of _notes? |
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| 22:01.44 | buu | You only need to restart wow if you add a file, right? |
| 22:01.48 | buu | If you just change it you can reload? |
| 22:02.30 | dylanm | Yes. |
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| 22:06.04 | buu | Hrm. |
| 22:06.09 | buu | Message: ..\AddOns\Cartographer_Routes\Core.lua line 1049: attempt to concatenate local 'orig_node' (a table value) |
| 22:06.12 | buu | =[ |
| 22:06.45 | buu | Does that mean.. orig_node is undefined? |
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| 22:07.13 | ckknight | no |
| 22:07.19 | ckknight | it means it's a table |
| 22:07.38 | buu | Oh, and it shouldn't be? |
| 22:07.57 | silentium | sounds like you try to use it as a string |
| 22:08.15 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 22:08.16 | Fisker- | win |
| 22:08.21 | buu | The line: create_data[ db_type ..";"..orig_node..";"..count ] = ("%s - %s - %d"):format(L[db_ty pe],LN[node],count) |
| 22:08.31 | dylanm | There's three lines I won't ever get back. |
| 22:08.41 | buu | But I'm looking at Mining.lua and Treasure.lua, they look identical. |
| 22:09.45 | buu | for _,node in pairs(db_data[create_zone]) do amount_of[node] = (amount_of[node] or 0) + 1 end |
| 22:09.51 | buu | for node,count in pairs(amount_of) do |
| 22:09.55 | buu | local orig_node = node |
| 22:10.08 | buu | How can orig_node possibly be a table? |
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| 22:12.11 | ckknight | if a value of db_data[create_zone] is a table |
| 22:12.29 | dylanm | It's clearly a table. You probably want some field of it. |
| 22:12.41 | ckknight | or tostring it |
| 22:12.41 | buu | ckknight: But amount_of[node] is an int |
| 22:12.51 | ckknight | buu: so? |
| 22:12.54 | dylanm | So? |
| 22:12.57 | dylanm | key -> value |
| 22:12.58 | ckknight | buu: node can be a table |
| 22:13.06 | buu | Well that's just weird. |
| 22:13.07 | dylanm | Value being an int. Key being a table describing the node. |
| 22:13.11 | ckknight | no it's not |
| 22:13.44 | dylanm | What file are you looking at here? |
| 22:13.51 | buu | Routes/Core.lua |
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| 22:14.04 | buu | So the question is, why is it a table for Treasure but not for Mining? |
| 22:14.44 | BeheritVII | hi there. looking for a swing timer addon (like quartz) which doenst resets itself at windfury proc / mortal strike. |
| 22:14.52 | BeheritVII | any ideas? |
| 22:16.13 | Antiarc | "New Line’s The Golden Compass, which has a reported budget of $200M+, has staggered out of the starting gate with an opening day of $9M or so, and it will likely muster only an estimated $27M for the weekend." |
| 22:16.16 | Antiarc | /ouch/ |
| 22:16.18 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.30 | aestil | whats the first rank of arcane shot that also displess? |
| 22:16.51 | Wogroipl | ramk 6 |
| 22:16.54 | Antiarc | Rank 6 |
| 22:16.54 | Wogroipl | rank* |
| 22:16.59 | Antiarc | Level 44 |
| 22:17.11 | CIA-12 | 03drool * r56769 10gfxToggle2/ (embeds.xml gfxToggle2.lua gfxToggle2.toc): |
| 22:17.11 | CIA-12 | gfxToggle2: |
| 22:17.11 | CIA-12 | - fix errors re deprecated M2UsePixelShaders CVar (=> M2UseShaders) |
| 22:17.11 | CIA-12 | - add Ground Clutter Density/Radius and Character Shadows settings |
| 22:17.11 | CIA-12 | - move libs to embeds.xml, bump TOC |
| 22:18.14 | aestil | but serpent sting scales with AP from the first 1 you get right? |
| 22:18.31 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 22:18.38 | ckknight | Antiarc: the Christians were boycotting it, last I heard on conservative talk radio |
| 22:19.00 | Antiarc | ckknight: That and fans of the book have reportedly been really disappointed in the adaptation |
| 22:19.07 | Antiarc | So it's not really getting any positive press from anyone |
| 22:19.13 | ckknight | so they lose on both fronts |
| 22:19.20 | Antiarc | pretty much |
| 22:19.34 | buu | ckknight: Why are these databases different =[ |
| 22:19.35 | Antiarc | It has to really sting to only make 5% of your budget on opening weekend. |
| 22:19.45 | ckknight | buu: neither know nor care |
| 22:19.54 | ckknight | yea, Antiarc |
| 22:20.04 | ckknight | btw, my pally's lvl 58 |
| 22:20.52 | Xuerian | What christians? o_0 |
| 22:21.22 | ckknight | Conservative Christians who don't like the "Atheism for Kids" message that the Golden Compass sends |
| 22:21.47 | buu | [36008200] = "Solid Chest" |
| 22:21.52 | buu | Is that first number a .. table? |
| 22:22.07 | Antiarc | The book's author is a pretty hard-line athiest who admittedly wrote the books as an athestic counterpoint to CS Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia |
| 22:22.10 | chexsum | no |
| 22:22.17 | Antiarc | Also, my wife is a giant nerd |
| 22:22.20 | Antiarc | She's taking a nap |
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| 22:22.35 | Antiarc | So she turned on Animal Crossing and parked her character on the beach |
| 22:22.41 | Antiarc | So she could fall asleep to the sound of the ocean |
| 22:22.50 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:22.59 | buu | chexsum: Er, what is it? |
| 22:23.06 | chexsum | tables = comma seperated list inside curly braces |
| 22:23.44 | chexsum | itd a table value :) |
| 22:23.47 | buu | chexsum: Will Lua "auto create" tables if you attempt to assign to one? |
| 22:23.58 | chexsum | ask ckknight ;) |
| 22:24.10 | Antiarc | buu: Like what? |
| 22:24.25 | ckknight | tables aren't interned, so they're always created if you make curly braces |
| 22:24.46 | ckknight | alright, cya all later, gonna install Leopard |
| 22:25.25 | chexsum | wish i could install cs:s |
| 22:25.29 | buu | Antiarc: I was just pondering, if you had something like x[foo] = 42 |
| 22:25.36 | buu | If x would turn in to a table if it wasn't already. |
| 22:26.03 | Antiarc | No |
| 22:26.11 | buu | Hrmph. |
| 22:26.12 | buu | I give up. |
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| 22:26.19 | Antiarc | Non-tables aren't indexable...I think. Maybe strings are. I forget. |
| 22:26.22 | chexsum | no you need to create each level of the table first |
| 22:26.25 | Antiarc | My mind is in Ruby gear right now |
| 22:26.30 | buu | Xinhuan: You alive? |
| 22:26.36 | ckknight | no, Antiarc, those aren't either |
| 22:26.56 | Antiarc | They are in ruby, so yeah, all confused |
| 22:26.57 | chexsum | do x = { foo = 42 } |
| 22:27.03 | Antiarc | x = x or {} |
| 22:27.06 | Antiarc | x[foo] = 42 |
| 22:27.09 | Antiarc | Tada |
| 22:27.28 | buu | Antiarc: I don't suppose you happen to be interested in Cartographer_routes? |
| 22:27.38 | Antiarc | Interested in what sense? Maintaining it? |
| 22:27.40 | Antiarc | Nope :P |
| 22:28.02 | ckknight | x ||= {} would be nice in lua |
| 22:28.34 | RaydenUni | gosh darn it |
| 22:28.39 | RaydenUni | just died on the UC elevator |
| 22:28.51 | buu | Antiarc: Heh, no, I'm trying to make a change to it |
| 22:29.01 | buu | Antiarc: But I'm afraid it's beyond my knowledge of weird lua/ace/etc internals. |
| 22:29.44 | chexsum | cks coding is pretty advanced |
| 22:30.30 | chexsum | you need to read the whole library before understanding it :P |
| 22:31.08 | buu | Is that CK? |
| 22:31.27 | buu | Essentially there's a special case in Core.lua that I suspect is the issue |
| 22:31.33 | buu | But I Can't figure out what it's changing. |
| 22:32.23 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc :D |
| 22:32.29 | Fisker- | seen that multishot and stuff breaks stealth again? |
| 22:32.35 | Antiarc | WHAT. |
| 22:32.41 | Antiarc | Oh that had better be a bug. |
| 22:32.43 | Antiarc | No, seriously |
| 22:32.45 | Fisker- | nope |
| 22:32.46 | Fisker- | :D |
| 22:32.50 | Antiarc | I am going to be pissed beyond reason if that's intended |
| 22:32.57 | Fisker- | Someone reported it as a bug on the EU forums |
| 22:33.05 | chexsum | gotta love how blizzard fixes things then breaks them again |
| 22:33.10 | Fisker- | the GM responded that it was only supposed to be against mobs and not players |
| 22:33.10 | Antiarc | I haven't noticed it happening to me |
| 22:33.13 | Antiarc | But link please. |
| 22:33.25 | RaydenUni | what is this? |
| 22:33.32 | RaydenUni | how does multishot work? |
| 22:33.34 | Antiarc | Well, GMs are notorious for being underpaid and unaware of actual game mechanics |
| 22:33.49 | Antiarc | RaydenUni: It used to be that Multishot and Chain Lightning would hit stealthed targets, destealthing them |
| 22:33.53 | Antiarc | Since they hit secondary targets |
| 22:33.59 | Antiarc | That was fixed a while back |
| 22:34.07 | Antiarc | And I'm going to be really really sad if they reverted it |
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| 22:34.17 | chexsum | i think it should work like that |
| 22:34.18 | charon | i also noticed that the hunter trap snakes went straight for me while i was stealthed, even though i was at least 10m away of the snakes (and more of the hunter) |
| 22:34.28 | RaydenUni | scientifically it makes sense than chain lightning would hit you |
| 22:34.32 | charon | (on at least one occasion) |
| 22:34.41 | Antiarc | Thing is |
| 22:34.46 | Antiarc | That's really pretty unbalanced in the arena |
| 22:34.48 | RaydenUni | i'm confused about how hunter pets work when you are stealthed |
| 22:34.56 | Antiarc | You can see four people and be pretty sure that a 5th is stealthed close by |
| 22:34.56 | RaydenUni | i've had a pet come after me, hit vanish, and it still comes |
| 22:35.00 | chexsum | snakes shouldnt do it though |
| 22:35.03 | Antiarc | Chain lighting, oh hai2u rogue |
| 22:35.25 | RaydenUni | one of the classes needs a mirror image spell |
| 22:35.31 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1876637658&postId=18781188976&sid=1#6 |
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| 22:36.07 | [SW]Dodge | Hi all |
| 22:36.23 | charon | "Multi-Shot ... is classed as an area of effect spell"... so they're re-defining terms once again? |
| 22:36.26 | Antiarc | Rogues should get a spy kit, like spies in TF2 |
| 22:36.36 | Antiarc | So they can disguise themselves as an enemy |
| 22:36.52 | chexsum | thatd be imba |
| 22:37.52 | Antiarc | That Blizzard poster is way wrong. |
| 22:37.54 | Antiarc | Because uh |
| 22:38.10 | Antiarc | I've been not-hit by countless multishots/chain lightnings since 1.11 |
| 22:38.14 | [SW]Dodge | is there an addon to move the pvp frames in battlegrounds and/or openpvp? |
| 22:38.32 | Antiarc | [SW]Dodge: simpleMinimap gives you movers for them |
| 22:38.36 | chexsum | i use move anything |
| 22:38.37 | Fisker- | Antiarc it's new in 2.3 |
| 22:38.56 | Antiarc | Fisker-: I've avoided at least one multishot in the arena since 2.3 |
| 22:39.01 | chexsum | it can move most of the frames |
| 22:39.03 | Fisker- | sure? :o |
| 22:39.08 | Antiarc | Yeah, positive |
| 22:39.10 | Antiarc | Did it last night |
| 22:39.11 | [SW]Dodge | well i have squeenix as minimap addon.. wouldnt that conflict? |
| 22:39.11 | Fisker- | you should test it out |
| 22:39.15 | Fisker- | with a duel |
| 22:39.31 | Antiarc | Well, in fairness |
| 22:39.45 | Antiarc | I had a Hortus once tell me that players could dodge attacks from behind |
| 22:39.50 | Fisker- | :O |
| 22:39.59 | Antiarc | Then I posted a video of me with 103% dodge not dodging attacks made from behind. |
| 22:40.47 | chexsum | afaik they can dodge/parry but cant block |
| 22:40.56 | chexsum | unless it was changed |
| 22:41.01 | Antiarc | Players cannot dodge/parry/block from behind |
| 22:41.06 | Antiarc | Mobs can dodge from behind |
| 22:41.28 | Antiarc | There is the rare parried/dodged/blocked backstab, but that's universally written off as a lag issue |
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| 22:43.40 | chexsum | wtb hl2 disc1 backup |
| 22:48.19 | Industrial | torrentz.com |
| 22:50.38 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 22:50.41 | RaydenUni | internal bag error = freeze |
| 22:51.00 | RaydenUni | = logoff |
| 22:51.44 | RaydenUni | there is that delicate time when you leave one zone and go to the next |
| 22:51.51 | kenlyric | hl2 comes on discs? |
| 22:51.53 | RaydenUni | if you go too late then you have all these low level quests to do |
| 22:51.59 | RaydenUni | if you go to early then you can't do any of them |
| 22:52.37 | chexsum | if i wasnt on a capped connection id dl it throgh steam - stupid isps |
| 22:53.53 | kenlyric | quests still stay green for a long time, it shouldn't be a problem. |
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| 22:56.04 | Diao | until 3 levels below you ;o |
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| 23:20.16 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 23:20.17 | Antiarc | http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9558/deusmq7.jpg |
| 23:20.52 | nevcairiel | man, but that game really rocked |
| 23:21.49 | Antiarc | One of my personal all-time favorites |
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| 23:23.30 | Diao | hah |
| 23:23.33 | Diao | yea that game was amazing |
| 23:23.34 | thul | deus ex was amazing |
| 23:23.36 | thul | the mood... |
| 23:23.39 | thul | the soundtrack.. |
| 23:23.40 | thul | everything |
| 23:31.19 | kenlyric | seems as if i installed it once. |
| 23:31.27 | kenlyric | what's the first level? |
| 23:32.15 | Antiarc | The Statue of Liberty. |
| 23:33.38 | kenlyric | i remember a dock or something. maybe it was a different game. |
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| 23:34.54 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 23:34.57 | Antiarc | That's correct |
| 23:35.57 | Antiarc | http://www.amazon.com/Cloverdale-Fresh-Whole-Rabbit/dp/B00012182G/ref=pd_sbs_misc_img_4 |
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| 23:35.59 | Antiarc | "Customers Who Bought Items Like This Also Bought..." |
| 23:36.01 | Antiarc | whaaaaaaat. |
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| 23:38.18 | Diao | lol wtf |
| 23:39.10 | Lightfaz | Heya, Im new to WoWAce, and Ive got a question about switching to Ace2 addons - probably a pretty dumb question, but if anyone's got a sec. |
| 23:39.38 | Antiarc | ~asktoask |
| 23:39.38 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:40.02 | Lightfaz | Heh, just making sure Im not jumping into the middle of some conversation |
| 23:40.14 | kenlyric | asian chicks like anal and whole rabbits |
| 23:40.27 | Stanzilla | Antiarc just told us about his favor for rabbits |
| 23:40.44 | Lightfaz | Anyways, Ive got a ton of addons right now, is there any program (wowace updater maybe?) that will take them and suggest ace2 addons in their place? |
| 23:40.55 | Lightfaz | i really dont want to have to go through every single addon by hand and find a replacement |
| 23:41.03 | Diao | nope |
| 23:41.45 | Lightfaz | damn |
| 23:42.03 | Lightfaz | is there a page on wikiace that lists off every addon and its purpose, to make crossreferencing a bit easier? |
| 23:43.16 | Diao | WAU has descriptions |
| 23:43.24 | Diao | but there's hundreds of addons |
| 23:43.43 | Lightfaz | Itd just be nice to have one big page with something like addon - this addon does ... |
| 23:43.56 | Lightfaz | so i can search for the use and get an addon without having to load tons of pages |
| 23:44.12 | Stanzilla | files.wowace.com has categories |
| 23:44.14 | Antiarc | Well, wowaceupdater has mod descriptions next to each mod |
| 23:44.15 | Stanzilla | maybe that helps |
| 23:44.27 | Diao | descriptions and categories |
| 23:44.39 | Diao | but some authors don't put the category in x-description or something so it doesn't appear under there? |
| 23:44.58 | Lightfaz | hmm. is there any actual advantage to switching over to ace2 other than the use of the updater? |
| 23:45.23 | kenlyric | nope, ace2 mods suck |
| 23:45.26 | Diao | personal preference |
| 23:45.27 | Antiarc | Ace2 mods tend to be standardized in their UI and usage, and can share libraries for lower overall resource usage. |
| 23:45.38 | kenlyric | COSMOS4LIFE |
| 23:45.45 | Lightfaz | thats what ive been using |
| 23:45.56 | Lightfaz | the majority were cosmos addons, and a few here and there that were just uncategorized |
| 23:45.57 | kenlyric | oh gods |
| 23:46.10 | kenlyric | we of the future welcome you. |
| 23:46.16 | Lightfaz | Heh, thats why Im here |
| 23:46.31 | kenlyric | best way is to just go through the list and figure out what does what. |
| 23:46.33 | Lightfaz | Is there any basic Ace2 UI pack, that I could add on to based on what I want? Like just downloading a bunch and say I want that, i dont want that, etc |
| 23:46.59 | Lightfaz | one last question ;) can they be loaded and unloaded on the fly, or do they require you to restart the console every time? |
| 23:47.01 | kenlyric | the website used to have statistics, most downloaded mods, which was quite helpful. |
| 23:47.04 | Diao | uhh |
| 23:47.10 | Diao | lots of people made their own ace2 compilations |
| 23:47.15 | Diao | but it's best to just get the mods you want yourself |
| 23:47.46 | Diao | and it's a wow requirement that you restart your client entirely each time you add/remove an addon in the interface/addons folder |
| 23:47.54 | Pkekyo| | what level do you have to be to get 300+ enchanting? |
| 23:47.56 | Diao | the client doesn't check for new files until it's exited completely |
| 23:48.00 | Diao | level 50+ |
| 23:48.11 | CIA-12 | 03siz * r56770 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua: |
| 23:48.11 | CIA-12 | JewelTips: |
| 23:48.11 | CIA-12 | - Added a deDE localization which may need to be corrected |
| 23:48.11 | CIA-12 | - Added zhCN and zhTW localizations by Ghostar |
| 23:48.11 | CIA-12 | - Reduced garbage created by string concatination and parsing |
| 23:48.12 | CIA-12 | - Added some enchants |
| 23:48.28 | Lightfaz | Not adding/removing ifrom the addons folder |
| 23:48.30 | Lightfaz | Just enabling/disabling |
| 23:48.32 | Lightfaz | in-game |
| 23:48.48 | Lightfaz | Any addon thats Khaos compatible, you can just open up a list and enable/disable it on the fly |
| 23:48.54 | Lightfaz | again, thats from the cosmos pack |
| 23:49.00 | Lightfaz | never used ace2 before |
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| 23:49.15 | Diao | ACP |
| 23:49.18 | Diao | lets you do that with any mod |
| 23:49.31 | Diao | as long as it's LoD |
| 23:50.05 | Pkekyo| | Diaolevel 50+ <---- you for real? O.o |
| 23:50.12 | Diao | yes |
| 23:50.15 | Pkekyo| | fucksake |
| 23:50.19 | Pkekyo| | gonna have to level my mage then |
| 23:50.22 | chexsum | 5 capped an ab then lagged out :((( |
| 23:50.28 | Diao | all 375 tradeskills require lv 50+ |
| 23:50.34 | Pkekyo| | that sucks |
| 23:50.40 | Pkekyo| | I want 375 without leveling my mage |
| 23:50.55 | Lightfaz | i want all my addons to instantly become ace2 |
| 23:50.57 | Lightfaz | ill make you a deal |
| 23:51.01 | Lightfaz | ill level your mage |
| 23:51.02 | Lightfaz | you swtich over my addons |
| 23:51.02 | Lightfaz | deal? :) |
| 23:51.04 | Diao | lol |
| 23:51.12 | Antiarc | Lightfaz: Start with Bartender3 for action bars, ag_uf or Pitbull for unit frames, simpleMinimap for a map, and build out from there |
| 23:51.14 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 23:51.27 | Lightfaz | thanks antiarc |
| 23:52.03 | Diao | it's level 5,10,20,35,50 |
| 23:52.08 | Diao | for tradeskill minimum levels |
| 23:52.34 | *** join/#wowace Mudkipz (n=Yumm@66-215-38-143.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:52.58 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 23:54.25 | *** part/#wowace Lightfaz (n=Skoba@xplr-ts-t11-208-114-159-180.barrettxplore.com) |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | 03morgalm * r56771 10MorgDKP/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | MorgDKP: |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | - added item editing to Raidtracker |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | - changed automatic loot awarding so that if everyone passes it will ask if you want to give the item to current disenchanter |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | - fixed german/lang_main.php |
| 23:57.07 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56772 10MobNotes/ (. MobNotes.lua MobNotes.toc): MobNotes: Initial commit. Simple addon to add small notes to tooltips. |
| 23:59.35 | kergoth | hm, wonder how hard itd be to make a little addon to track which mobs are immune to stun/poison |
| 23:59.46 | vhaarr | that's why I wrote mobnotes :P |
| 23:59.53 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@124.148.56.183) |
| 23:59.53 | vhaarr | stuff like that |
| 23:59.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:59.56 | kergoth | cool |
