| 00:01.16 | thul | oooh |
| 00:01.20 | thul | I so want the glaives :-( |
| 00:01.28 | thul | but i cba to raid that much :-P |
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| 00:05.52 | basslingo | ello everyone |
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| 00:08.34 | thul | http://team-exalt.com/admin/wow/shred2.jpg <- depressing |
| 00:09.51 | Antiarc | Druids can pump out higher specials than rogues, but rogues blow them away with white damage |
| 00:10.24 | RaydenU | why is it depressing? |
| 00:10.44 | Antiarc | Because rogue specials can't get anywhere near there, and cat druids are basically a gimped rogue |
| 00:10.49 | basslingo | its worse for wars -.- |
| 00:11.03 | RaydenU | what's a good crit for backstab? |
| 00:11.21 | basslingo | in fury im pumping out 300-500 dps 800dmg crits |
| 00:11.21 | RaydenU | druids don't have nearly the same number of combat utility spells that rogues do |
| 00:11.40 | Antiarc | Like uh |
| 00:11.41 | RaydenU | granted many of those have limited use in pve |
| 00:11.41 | thul | 2500-3500 RaydenU |
| 00:11.47 | RaydenU | gouge, vanish, blind |
| 00:11.48 | RaydenU | poisons |
| 00:11.54 | RaydenU | evasion |
| 00:11.58 | thul | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/1714868540_d5635a2296_b.jpg <- I like that UI a bit |
| 00:11.59 | basslingo | my best crit was 8.5k on execute |
| 00:12.00 | Antiarc | Vanish is the only one really arguable in PVE |
| 00:12.26 | RaydenU | i need to reevaluate my spells and try to set up some special hotkeys |
| 00:12.27 | Antiarc | Druids get their gouge finisher, cyclone for blind, bleeds for damagepoisons |
| 00:12.37 | RaydenU | gouge finisher is entirely different |
| 00:12.39 | thul | I think I'll copy that UI tomorrow |
| 00:12.40 | Antiarc | Bear form and OP agi:dodge ratios for evasion :P |
| 00:12.47 | thul | Bear form.. is sick |
| 00:12.48 | Antiarc | It has the same overall effect. |
| 00:12.49 | RaydenU | and you can't case cyclone while in cat form can you? |
| 00:12.54 | thul | "miss, dodge, miss, dodge" |
| 00:12.55 | Antiarc | No, but druids can shift :P |
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| 00:12.57 | RaydenU | Antiarc you can't run up to someone in pvp and gouge them |
| 00:13.02 | RaydenU | as an opener |
| 00:13.06 | Antiarc | I thought we were talking about PVE |
| 00:13.16 | RaydenU | well what good is gouge in pve? |
| 00:13.24 | Antiarc | None whatsoever, which is why I was confused :P |
| 00:13.39 | RaydenU | i said most of the rogue>druid utility has limited use in pve |
| 00:14.15 | RaydenU | basslingo pretty sure 8.5k would one shot me |
| 00:14.20 | RaydenU | my spriest |
| 00:14.28 | thul | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1178/1391532637_549afe4851_b.jpg <- pretty |
| 00:14.30 | RaydenU | i think i have ~7700hp |
| 00:14.43 | Antiarc | Well |
| 00:14.45 | RaydenU | such low resolution |
| 00:14.47 | Antiarc | If it's an execute... :P |
| 00:15.03 | RaydenU | that's a finisher? |
| 00:15.11 | Antiarc | Ragedump, only usable below 20% HP |
| 00:15.21 | RaydenU | oh warrior ability |
| 00:15.23 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 00:15.28 | thul | http://acaciaizm.com/?page_id=275 |
| 00:15.29 | RaydenU | i haven't played a warrior |
| 00:15.30 | thul | thinking about copying it |
| 00:16.17 | RaydenU | empty space below his frames seems wasted |
| 00:17.00 | RaydenU | i shouild redo my interface |
| 00:17.12 | thul | on which of the uis? the healer or the miniee? |
| 00:17.34 | Fisker- | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=N+Cedar+St+%26+Shaft+Rd,+Hazleton,+Luzerne,+Pennsylvania+18201,+United+States&ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&t=h&om=1&ll=40.958021,-75.969853&spn=0.000899,0.002511&z=19&iwloc=addr <-this is my kind of stadium |
| 00:17.35 | RaydenU | healer |
| 00:19.50 | RaydenU | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_091107_110140.jpg |
| 00:19.51 | RaydenU | mine |
| 00:20.16 | RaydenU | there is nowhere good to put the chat window |
| 00:23.10 | basslingo | http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=modlayoutpb1.jpg is mine |
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| 00:24.57 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 00:25.02 | RaydenU | pretty simple |
| 00:25.03 | Ellipsis | are the giant profession buttons really necessary? |
| 00:25.24 | basslingo | yes :P |
| 00:25.36 | RaydenU | my complaint is that the important in battle information is in two different places |
| 00:25.39 | RaydenU | so your eyes have to move a lot |
| 00:26.05 | basslingo | hows so |
| 00:26.16 | basslingo | on the right is all my out of combat stuff |
| 00:26.25 | RaydenU | your health bar is in the upper left corner and your target's bar is in the upper left corner |
| 00:26.31 | RaydenU | all your spell buttons are on the bottom |
| 00:26.45 | RaydenU | although now that i think about it rogues don't need to watch their spell bars as much as a caster |
| 00:26.51 | basslingo | i have all my spell keybinds memorised |
| 00:27.02 | RaydenU | on my shadow priest i need to know when my spell cooldowns are up |
| 00:27.03 | basslingo | and thats a warrior bar |
| 00:27.05 | RaydenU | so i watch my spellbar |
| 00:27.09 | Ellipsis | RaydenU: sounds liek you need a cooldown addon |
| 00:27.15 | RaydenU | recommend one? |
| 00:27.24 | Ellipsis | I don't use one because they all fail at life |
| 00:27.26 | RaydenU | i don't have a problem with watching the spell icons |
| 00:27.27 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 00:27.38 | RaydenU | i just watch MB and SWD |
| 00:27.51 | Ellipsis | fortunately CDs aren't a big deal for me so I get by fine |
| 00:27.56 | RaydenU | class? |
| 00:28.14 | harldephin | what's the global countdown? 1.5 seconds? |
| 00:28.19 | RaydenU | yes |
| 00:28.30 | harldephin | hm. ok |
| 00:28.42 | RaydenU | i guess if you were a rogue you wouldn't even need a spell bar |
| 00:29.06 | Ellipsis | RaydenU: warlock |
| 00:29.09 | RaydenU | i need to figure out how to get quartz to do cooldowns and stuff |
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| 00:29.16 | kappakappuccino | RaydenU:ezmode |
| 00:29.17 | kappakappuccino | FIXT |
| 00:29.19 | RaydenU | do warlocks not have any cooldowns? |
| 00:29.23 | NightHawkTheSane | quartz wont do cooldowns. |
| 00:29.24 | Ellipsis | eh |
| 00:29.29 | kappakappuccino | woops |
| 00:29.32 | Ellipsis | the only ones I use relatively often are shadowburn and death coil |
| 00:29.37 | RaydenU | quartz does buff timers though |
| 00:29.42 | Mudkipz | o_O |
| 00:29.49 | RaydenU | right? |
| 00:29.54 | RaydenU | i use EBB and Classtimer right now |
| 00:29.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, buff timers are not cooldowns, though. |
| 00:30.05 | Ellipsis | I use EBB for dot timing and all |
| 00:30.14 | Ellipsis | the only cooldown I really care about is GCD and quartz covers that >_> |
| 00:30.22 | RaydenU | EBB will do target debuffs? |
| 00:30.46 | dylanm | Shyeah. |
| 00:31.04 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 00:31.10 | RaydenU | maybe that means i can drop classtimer |
| 00:31.29 | khangg | I just use Pitbull for target debuffs :S |
| 00:31.45 | RaydenU | i need a timer |
| 00:31.50 | khangg | oo |
| 00:31.53 | Ellipsis | EBB works for target and focus debuffs |
| 00:32.00 | Ellipsis | so I quit using classtimer |
| 00:32.21 | RaydenU | i'll look into it |
| 00:32.25 | Ellipsis | just configured a couple bar groups for those and it's great, other than not showing tenths of seconds |
| 00:32.29 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 00:32.55 | Diao | quartz handles target and focus debuffs too doesn't it o_o |
| 00:33.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 00:33.14 | CIA-12 | 03totalpackage * r56875 10InFlight_Load/ (Defaults.lua InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc): |
| 00:33.14 | CIA-12 | InFlight_Load |
| 00:33.14 | CIA-12 | - added deDE localization |
| 00:33.22 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 00:33.26 | Ellipsis | I wonder if quartz can do tenths |
| 00:33.35 | Ellipsis | and how configurable the bars are... |
| 00:33.54 | NightHawkTheSane | tenths? |
| 00:34.36 | Ellipsis | yeah, like showing 4.5s instead of 4s |
| 00:34.51 | RaydenU | oh |
| 00:34.59 | RaydenU | that's nice i think |
| 00:35.09 | NightHawkTheSane | I seem to vaguely recall that it might have, but I haven't used it's buff/debuff bars in some time |
| 00:35.57 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 00:36.11 | Ellipsis | I'd still have to keep EBB for the duration filtering =[ |
| 00:37.09 | CIA-12 | 03totalpackage * r56876 10InFlight/ (Defaults.lua InFlight.toc): |
| 00:37.09 | CIA-12 | InFlight: |
| 00:37.09 | CIA-12 | - added deDE localization (untested) |
| 00:40.02 | RaydenU | would it be possible to grab your online guild members before you choose a character? |
| 00:40.15 | Stanzilla | untested is not really cool mr. totalpackage |
| 00:40.38 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: er, no. |
| 00:40.46 | RaydenU | that's too bad |
| 00:40.55 | RaydenU | it would be nice to see who is on before i pick a character |
| 00:40.57 | NightHawkTheSane | no user code can execute prior to logging in |
| 00:41.06 | Ellipsis | RaydenU, someone you're trying to avoid? :P |
| 00:41.12 | RaydenU | no |
| 00:41.28 | RaydenU | if there are people in one guild on and not the other, it would affect which character i choose |
| 00:41.32 | RaydenU | or if a bunch of 70's are on i |
| 00:41.40 | RaydenU | i will get on my 70 or else get on my alt |
| 00:41.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, i guess it's far too hard to log in and see. :P |
| 00:42.16 | Ellipsis | yeah, god forbid you have to relog to switch characters :P |
| 00:42.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I know, right? I had to relog the other day, I swear I almost died doing it. |
| 00:43.38 | Ellipsis | one time, I relogged, and I later found out that right around that time my guildie's cousin's dog died |
| 00:43.48 | Ellipsis | I'm pretty sure it's my fault |
| 00:43.59 | RaydenU | NightHawkTheSane it takes a while to log in |
| 00:44.04 | NightHawkTheSane | it so is. you dog killer. |
| 00:44.04 | RaydenU | i'm just saying it would be nice |
| 00:44.20 | RaydenU | it could save me a minute or two |
| 00:44.42 | NightHawkTheSane | A minute or two of your life is that important? Buy a book, read it during those minutes. ;) |
| 00:44.55 | RaydenU | 2min is not enough to get anywhere in a book |
| 00:45.02 | RaydenU | NightHawkTheSane i didn't say i was going to stay up nights worrying |
| 00:45.08 | RaydenU | i just said it would be nice |
| 00:45.10 | Ellipsis | work on a crossword puzzle while it's loading |
| 00:45.17 | buu | YOU DON'T UNDERSTNAD RAYDEN |
| 00:45.26 | buu | IF IT'S POSSIBLE THERE'S NO POINT IN MAKING IT EASIER |
| 00:45.32 | buu | LIKE I CAN WALK TO THE STORE |
| 00:45.32 | NightHawkTheSane | It is, actually, you'd be surprised how far you can get if your just reading a page or three in a spare few minutes here or there. |
| 00:45.35 | buu | WHO THE FUCK WOULD INVENT A CAR |
| 00:45.45 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 00:45.54 | Ellipsis | more like he can drive to the store and he wants a teleportation machine |
| 00:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I've read entire books like that. |
| 00:45.59 | Ellipsis | just because it would be helpful doesn't mean it's possible |
| 00:46.07 | RaydenU | eh, i don't feel i get involved in a book reading a few sentences at a time |
| 00:46.43 | buu | Ellipsis: Hey, it's worth asking if a teleport machine exists. |
| 00:46.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, if you can only read a few sentences in the time it takes you to log in, you should either a) work on your reading skills, or b) quit whining about your login times. ;) |
| 00:47.02 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: Haha, nobody was whining. Holy shit, calm down dude. |
| 00:47.17 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: note the ";)" at the end there? :P |
| 00:47.18 | Orionshock | so what's the Catch all Lua Regex? |
| 00:47.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: ".*" |
| 00:47.33 | buu | 'Hey guys it'd be cool if I could shave a few minutes off my login time' 'WHAT THE FUCK YOU GODDAMN ARROGANT LAZY SACK OF SHIT HOW DARE YOU TRY TO SAVE A MINUTE' |
| 00:47.58 | Ellipsis | buu, you are the one with the caps lock problem :P |
| 00:48.09 | buu | Capslock is cruise control for cool. |
| 00:48.12 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: you know, I was thinking that, but I didn't want to say it, thanks for doing that for me. :D |
| 00:48.17 | Ellipsis | even with cruise control, you still have to steer |
| 00:48.18 | buu | No problem dude. |
| 00:48.26 | buu | Ellipsis: Or you could just crash and sue! |
| 00:48.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: pfft. says you. |
| 00:48.47 | RaydenU | know what would be even better? |
| 00:48.56 | RaydenU | if my guild chat was an irc channel |
| 00:48.59 | RaydenU | so i could connect from here |
| 00:49.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, some kind of irc proxy for in-game chat would be pretty sweet |
| 00:49.38 | RaydenU | i could tell my guildmates they are noobs without even logging on |
| 00:49.43 | Ellipsis | the problem would be authenticating |
| 00:49.52 | buu | RaydenU: I've been wishing for that for years =[ |
| 00:49.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh, and I would totally use it for that. |
| 00:49.59 | buu | Damn you blizzard. |
| 00:50.11 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 00:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: I bet with some clever nickserv hackery you could manage that. |
| 00:50.19 | Antiarc | I want a bridge to WoW :( |
| 00:50.24 | Ellipsis | yeah maybe |
| 00:50.25 | RaydenU | you couldn't make a mod that is an irc client could you? |
| 00:50.28 | Ellipsis | it still wouldn't be terribly secure though |
| 00:50.30 | Ellipsis | no RaydenU |
| 00:50.31 | Antiarc | Guild chat piped to IRC, automatic DKP management, etc. |
| 00:50.39 | Antiarc | RaydenU: Mods have no means of communicating with the outside world |
| 00:50.44 | RaydenU | bummer |
| 00:50.46 | Antiarc | well, other than saved vars |
| 00:50.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: heh, some kind of way to pipe data in/out of wow is everyones dream ;) |
| 00:51.01 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: I saw a guy that did it with a small overlay using pixel data to represent bytes |
| 00:51.07 | RaydenU | so you could have a mod that saves chatlog to a file and then an irc client that reads that :D |
| 00:51.07 | Antiarc | But it's technically against the TOS |
| 00:51.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: that's pretty impressive. |
| 00:51.29 | Ellipsis | is that really technically against tos? |
| 00:51.29 | Antiarc | RaydenU: Chatlogs are flushed in periodic intervals. You'd get huge floods of text to the IRC channel |
| 00:51.34 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: SV's are only written on logout/reload ui. :P |
| 00:51.39 | Antiarc | Ellipsis: Yes, his method was |
| 00:51.45 | buu | Ok, I have an idea. |
| 00:51.48 | buu | An evil evil idea. |
| 00:51.50 | Ellipsis | hm, but you're not reading memory per se... |
| 00:51.56 | buu | No dudes, I got it. |
| 00:51.59 | Antiarc | No, he was |
| 00:52.04 | buu | Write an addon that saves guild chat to a saved variable |
| 00:52.08 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 00:52.08 | Antiarc | He was using an addon to set pixels a certain color |
| 00:52.11 | buu | then get one of those macrotastic keyboards |
| 00:52.11 | dylanm | Okay... |
| 00:52.12 | RaydenU | wait he had a mod that's output was an image and another program that |
| 00:52.18 | RaydenU | that's input was a section of the screen? |
| 00:52.22 | buu | And create a macro that does '/reloadui' every 10 seconds. |
| 00:52.24 | Antiarc | Then used a custom program to read the video buffer and interpret a certain area of the screen as a string stream. |
| 00:52.28 | buu | IT'S PURE GENIUS. |
| 00:52.39 | Diao | lol |
| 00:52.47 | RaydenU | that's really cool |
| 00:52.48 | Diao | i'd never get to play if i had to reload my ui every 10 sec |
| 00:52.56 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: doesn't sound tos-breaking to me |
| 00:53.03 | buu | Diao: Um. No. |
| 00:53.06 | Antiarc | He has to hook into WoW's canvas to read it |
| 00:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: you could probably create a bot-like user to do that. |
| 00:53.11 | buu | You'd have to use a seperate client/etc somewhere. |
| 00:53.13 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah exactly. |
| 00:53.14 | Antiarc | As opposed to just registering another overlay to draw on |
| 00:53.19 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: course, that totally breaks the tos. |
| 00:53.27 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: Well. |
| 00:53.31 | buu | I suppose, maybe. |
| 00:53.34 | Ellipsis | IANAL, but the tos specifically mentions wow's memory space, not the display buffer |
| 00:53.34 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: well, unless you actually had someone there triggering the reloadui ;) |
| 00:53.47 | Antiarc | The canvas overlay is owned by WoW |
| 00:53.50 | Antiarc | It's a part of its memory space |
| 00:53.52 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: It would be sort of difficult to catch. |
| 00:53.53 | KarlThePagan | Ellipsis, you want to OCR the fonts from the video buffer? |
| 00:53.55 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 00:54.04 | SatansMinion | anyone have any clues as to why WAU is crashing everytime i try to load it? ive uninstalled and reinstalled it several times now |
| 00:54.08 | Ellipsis | you don't need to OCR if you did it the way Antiarc was describing |
| 00:54.08 | KarlThePagan | i guess fonts are easier than handwriting tho |
| 00:54.17 | KarlThePagan | ah |
| 00:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: well, the thing is, you'd have to have some sort of anti-afk-logout measures in place, which are most certainly against the tos |
| 00:54.34 | Ellipsis | you can render pixels using precise rgb values to get data transferred |
| 00:54.34 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: and those are easier to catch |
| 00:54.51 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: You'd just have to jump every 5 seconds.. |
| 00:55.10 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: and you think they wouldn't notice that? P:P |
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| 00:55.23 | buu | If you were off in a corner of thunderbluff? |
| 00:55.24 | Xinhuan | or you can have a program like Fraps take screenshots every 1 second, and operate a program to convert those screenshot text into real text OCR, and delete the files as they come ;p |
| 00:55.26 | buu | I doubt it. |
| 00:55.27 | Ellipsis | they don't have any automatic detection for that |
| 00:55.34 | Xinhuan | i do believe fraps is legal |
| 00:55.38 | buu | And you could always send a random movement command. |
| 00:55.45 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 00:55.50 | Antiarc | Did you guys see the Wii multitouch thing? |
| 00:55.55 | buu | And you could communicate back to wow by modifying the saved variables, right? |
| 00:55.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yes |
| 00:55.59 | NightHawkTheSane | that was bloody cool |
| 00:56.01 | Antiarc | Cool as hell. |
| 00:56.01 | buu | Antiarc: WoW reloads saved variables rihgt? |
| 00:56.12 | Ellipsis | every time you reloadui it could communicate |
| 00:56.13 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.14 | Antiarc | buu: /reloadui flushes SVs to disk, yes |
| 00:56.28 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: every time you reloadui, current SV's are sent to disk, overwriting whatever's there |
| 00:56.29 | Ellipsis | but that's not practical for real-time communication like chat |
| 00:56.35 | Antiarc | http://youtube.com/watch?v=5s5EvhHy7eQ |
| 00:56.35 | buu | Antiarc: But no, does it read them when it comes back up? |
| 00:56.39 | NeoTron | oh yeah that |
| 00:56.40 | Antiarc | buu: Yes |
| 00:56.44 | buu | Sexy! |
| 00:56.44 | NeoTron | minority report via wii |
| 00:56.50 | Antiarc | The problem is that reloadui is a slow process. |
| 00:56.51 | buu | Ellipsis: You'd have like a 5 second delay |
| 00:56.56 | buu | Antiarc: Well, strip out everything. |
| 00:56.57 | Ellipsis | exactly, buu |
| 00:57.04 | Ellipsis | there are faster ways to get the data out |
| 00:57.07 | Ellipsis | that don't technically break tos |
| 00:57.08 | buu | LIKE WHAT? |
| 00:57.11 | buu | Oh, that stuff. |
| 00:57.13 | buu | Yeah good luck. |
| 00:57.17 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 00:57.25 | Xinhuan | you would have to make the program write to the SV file between its saving and loading during the reloadui |
| 00:57.27 | buu | Anyway, the real trick would be to interface with the auction.. |
| 00:57.29 | Xinhuan | it isn't that easy |
| 00:57.34 | Antiarc | WoW net traffic is encrypted, yes? |
| 00:57.35 | buu | Xinhuan: Hrm.. |
| 00:57.37 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.49 | Antiarc | Does the TOS prohibit eavesdropping on the data if you don't modify it? |
| 00:57.51 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 00:57.53 | Antiarc | Bah. |
| 00:57.57 | NeoTron | you can communicate out of WoW via wowchatlog can you not? |
| 00:57.59 | Ellipsis | the tos forbids packet sniffing of any kind |
| 00:58.09 | Antiarc | Well, I guess I should expect a ban soon |
| 00:58.13 | Ellipsis | or attempting to reverse engineer the protocol |
| 00:58.14 | Antiarc | Since I tend to play with Wireshark a lot >_> |
| 00:58.18 | NeoTron | although it's not real-time since it's buffered |
| 00:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 00:58.25 | Orionshock | Antiarc: why? / what is it? |
| 00:58.32 | NightHawkTheSane | they really can't catch you if you're not modifying data at all |
| 00:58.33 | Antiarc | Wireshark is a network data logger |
| 00:58.41 | Ellipsis | pfft, my firewall packet logs everything, and I've never been banned :P |
| 00:58.44 | Orionshock | no, things like that wont' get you banned |
| 00:58.48 | NivFreak | Antiarc: I can't imagine they could ban you for that |
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| 00:58.55 | Antiarc | Heh, I don't expect they would |
| 00:58.57 | NightHawkTheSane | unless you start talking publicly about mining wow net packets. :P |
| 00:59.02 | Orionshock | anything like ethereal ect, won't get you banned |
| 00:59.06 | NivFreak | I've used wireshark plenty while playing wow |
| 00:59.10 | NivFreak | and had nothing to do with wow |
| 00:59.13 | Antiarc | Wireshark = Ethereak |
| 00:59.14 | Ellipsis | warden could tell if you are running software that *can* sniff the traffic, but that's not really bannable |
| 00:59.17 | Antiarc | Ethereal* |
| 00:59.22 | Orionshock | intercepting it, modifying & then sending it along will however |
| 00:59.30 | NightHawkTheSane | obviously |
| 00:59.48 | Ellipsis | though it's kinda sad, lots of WoW traffic is sent in plaintext |
| 00:59.58 | NivFreak | I still don't think warden is very smart |
| 00:59.59 | MrUseful | Arena Points updated. You are eligible for points if: Team fought min. 10 matches and you participated in 30% of the matches. |
| 01:00.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Is it? I haven't really bothered sniffing it |
| 01:00.17 | Ellipsis | I haven't put any real effort into it |
| 01:00.26 | Ellipsis | just noticed stuff while going through packet logs for other reasons |
| 01:00.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, well I haven't gone through packet logs at all lately. Don't have much reason to. :) |
| 01:00.51 | Ellipsis | I don't think they encrypt much, if anything |
| 01:01.01 | Antiarc | http://sourceforge.net/images/lolcat3_300x100.jpg <-- someone stop the internet. I want to get off. |
| 01:01.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: >< |
| 01:02.12 | SatansMinion | anyone have any clues as to why WAU is crashing everytime i try to load it? ive uninstalled and reinstalled it several times now |
| 01:03.05 | RaydenU | perhaps update .NET? |
| 01:03.29 | Ellipsis | oh god Antiarc...tell me that's fake |
| 01:03.34 | Antiarc | No, it's real |
| 01:03.38 | SatansMinion | its worth a try, before i update my computer onto the front lawn |
| 01:03.41 | Antiarc | I saw it on the Wireshark download page. |
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| 01:07.20 | Orionshock | whats the escap char for a line return? |
| 01:07.42 | Xinhuan | %r |
| 01:07.44 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:08.22 | Antiarc | Huh. |
| 01:08.27 | Antiarc | Chat is transmitted in plaintext. |
| 01:09.11 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 01:09.23 | Antiarc | Usernames on login are plaintext, though the password appears to be a hash. |
| 01:09.25 | Ellipsis | so is guild roster during logins, which makes the whole thing pretty ezmode |
| 01:09.44 | NivFreak | Antiarc: can you tell what the hash is? |
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| 01:09.56 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Not likely |
| 01:09.58 | Antiarc | hashes are one-way |
| 01:10.01 | NivFreak | rather |
| 01:10.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I think he meant what hash algorithm |
| 01:10.09 | Antiarc | You can brute-force them, but that can take a very long time |
| 01:10.11 | NivFreak | is it md5? |
| 01:10.16 | Antiarc | No, it's not Md5 |
| 01:10.22 | NivFreak | NightHawkTheSane: yep |
| 01:10.31 | Antiarc | Doesn't look like sha either |
| 01:10.56 | Megalon | salted? |
| 01:10.57 | NivFreak | well let's see your hash |
| 01:10.59 | NivFreak | we can have a contest |
| 01:11.05 | NivFreak | to see who has better rainbow tables |
| 01:11.10 | Ellipsis | sounds like fun |
| 01:11.22 | Ellipsis | what does the winner get, besides Antiarc's account? |
| 01:11.27 | Tem | Orionshock, suck less, please |
| 01:11.27 | NivFreak | shards |
| 01:11.36 | Tem | I dislike getting pinged because of you |
| 01:11.38 | Antiarc | I'm not going to give you my login hash :P |
| 01:11.39 | Ellipsis | ooh, shrads, I'm so in |
| 01:11.41 | Antiarc | Getcher own! |
| 01:11.41 | Ellipsis | shards* |
| 01:11.43 | Orionshock | eh? |
| 01:11.45 | Orionshock | what? |
| 01:11.50 | Orionshock | oh ... sorry |
| 01:11.51 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 01:11.58 | Sole | anybody else not like the fact that all the libraries are seperate addons now =\ |
| 01:12.13 | Ellipsis | ...random comment of the hour? |
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| 01:12.26 | Orionshock | sorry Tem bout 5mins later i figured it was a bad hook chain somewhere else... |
| 01:12.41 | Tem | huh what? |
| 01:12.48 | Tem | I was just screwing with you |
| 01:12.54 | Orionshock | :P |
| 01:13.04 | Tem | mostly for the poor grammar while insulting americans earlier |
| 01:13.15 | Tem | the irony hurt my brain |
| 01:13.25 | Ellipsis | Orionshock? poor grammar? never! |
| 01:13.30 | Xinhuan | Tem: get a longer name ;p |
| 01:13.37 | Tem | Xinhuan, whyfor? |
| 01:13.44 | Xinhuan | to get pinged less! |
| 01:13.47 | Ellipsis | or a more obscure one |
| 01:13.47 | Tem | heh |
| 01:14.03 | Ellipsis | it's quite rare that people talk about ellipses around me |
| 01:14.03 | Tem | Xinhuan, it's a real issue when people start talking portugese |
| 01:14.24 | Tem | since tem is a word in that language |
| 01:14.24 | Ellipsis | o.O what does it mean? |
| 01:14.25 | Tem | happens in #lua all the time |
| 01:14.34 | Xinhuan | oh "xin" gets pinged pretty often, but i set it up to ignore it and NOT ping if its a substring of certain stuff |
| 01:14.42 | Xinhuan | like words ending with "xing" |
| 01:14.48 | Ellipsis | what about mixin? :P |
| 01:14.49 | Xinhuan | like boxing, vexing, relaxing |
| 01:14.54 | Xinhuan | yeah i ignore htat too |
| 01:14.59 | Ellipsis | darn |
| 01:15.02 | Tem | Ellipsis, I think it's somehting common like "this" or "that" |
| 01:15.10 | Ellipsis | I will have to get more creative when ninja-pinging you |
| 01:15.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: something like bo xin g? |
| 01:15.36 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 01:15.40 | Ellipsis | yeah, I'm thinking accidental spaces are teh way to go |
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| 01:16.03 | Orionshock | :( speaking of me sucking... i need help with regexes... and maybe a few shots of tequila ... |
| 01:16.05 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/78863 |
| 01:16.25 | Diao | wonder if inserting a bold character in between will do it ;p |
| 01:16.28 | Orionshock | is the data & i think i got a functional regex for the first line... |
| 01:16.31 | Ellipsis | the best way I've found to drive someone nuts is to end all your lines with their nick colored with whatever their background color is |
| 01:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone needs a few shots of tequila |
| 01:16.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: and that is why i have x-chat strip out mirc color. :) |
| 01:16.59 | RaydenU | mirc color? |
| 01:17.02 | RaydenU | what's that? |
| 01:17.09 | Ellipsis | yeah it doesn't work in channels with +S/+c |
| 01:17.20 | Ellipsis | or with people who strip colors on their clients |
| 01:17.22 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: as in mIRC? :p |
| 01:17.26 | Ellipsis | but for teh average noob, it's fun |
| 01:17.29 | buu | RaydenU: Some stupid mirc "extension" to allow coloring irc text. |
| 01:17.30 | RaydenU | Ellipsis how would you know what the color of my background is? |
| 01:17.31 | NightHawkTheSane | that client is typically one of the worst offenders for colored irc. |
| 01:17.36 | RaydenU | i've never used mirc |
| 01:17.37 | buu | God I hate it. |
| 01:17.39 | Ellipsis | RaydenU: at a guess, it's white |
| 01:17.39 | buu | RaydenU: Good call. |
| 01:17.42 | Ellipsis | otherwise probably black |
| 01:17.48 | RaydenU | i think mine is neither |
| 01:17.48 | Ellipsis | wouldn't be hard to check |
| 01:17.54 | RaydenU | xchat is some sort of light gray |
| 01:17.56 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: yeah, that's my favorite thing about x-chat aqua |
| 01:18.12 | buu | Ellipsis: So anyway, I just wrote 500 lines of C to parse wowlogfiles extremely quickly. |
| 01:18.19 | buu | Now I can't think of anything useful to do with it. |
| 01:18.23 | buu | WOE IS ME. |
| 01:18.23 | Ellipsis | buu: marry me? |
| 01:18.25 | dylanm | Orionshock: What's the trouble with parsing that? |
| 01:18.35 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: cry when you get to rewrite it in 2.4? |
| 01:18.43 | Ellipsis | although the fact that it took you 500 lines makes me a bit concerned |
| 01:18.55 | Orionshock | well ... the regex has to be able to parse both entrys |
| 01:19.11 | dylanm | Sure. |
| 01:19.21 | Orionshock | i suck with regexes :\ |
| 01:19.26 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: Haha, no, then it'll be trivial. |
| 01:19.27 | RaydenU | yeah really Ellipsis you should have higher standards than that |
| 01:19.39 | RaydenU | but is that what you primarily look for in a man? |
| 01:19.40 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: as if 500 lines isn't trivial enough? :P |
| 01:19.41 | Ellipsis | what can I say, I'm running out of options |
| 01:19.47 | Ellipsis | most of the good geeks are taken these days, it seems |
| 01:19.48 | RaydenU | C skills and the ability to use it to accomplish silly things? |
| 01:19.49 | rubik | oh yeah |
| 01:19.51 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: It was 500 lines of *bison* |
| 01:19.53 | RaydenU | really? |
| 01:19.56 | RaydenU | i find that hard to believe |
| 01:19.59 | rubik | so we're putting WWS out of business come 2.4, right? |
| 01:20.06 | buu | Ellipsis: 500 lines is extremely small =/ |
| 01:20.10 | NightHawkTheSane | what the hell is bison? |
| 01:20.15 | buu | Especially for something as horrifying as wow log files. |
| 01:20.17 | RaydenU | it's a mammal |
| 01:20.22 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: The gnu port of yacc |
| 01:20.25 | rubik | byson? |
| 01:20.25 | buu | Duh. |
| 01:20.28 | Ellipsis | buu: I know what 500 lines is, and there is surely room for optimization! |
| 01:20.29 | dylanm | Orionshock: We're talking lua patterns here right? |
| 01:20.30 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: okay |
| 01:20.37 | Orionshock | ya |
| 01:20.39 | buu | Ellipsis: It does a hyjal clear, 28 megs, in 2.2 seconds. |
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| 01:20.47 | rubik | what's the output? |
| 01:20.52 | dylanm | Orionshock: Just use string.gmatch |
| 01:21.02 | rubik | just a bunch of arrays o' stuff per player? |
| 01:21.12 | buu | rubik: Well, it doesn't really "output" anything. |
| 01:21.23 | Ellipsis | buu: you sure have quite the epeen about this code for something you just threw together :P |
| 01:21.27 | buu | rubik: At the moment I wrote perl bindings to get the data as perl datastuctures. |
| 01:21.33 | rubik | ahh.. neat |
| 01:21.34 | Orionshock | dylanm: the func isn't the problem, it's the actual regex |
| 01:21.40 | buu | Ellipsis: It took me like 5 days of near solid coding =/ |
| 01:22.04 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with you? |
| 01:22.08 | dylanm | Orionshock: What do you have? |
| 01:22.22 | buu | Ellipsis: Um. |
| 01:22.24 | buu | Ellipsis: A lot? |
| 01:22.30 | Ellipsis | well, besides the obvious |
| 01:22.32 | RaydenU | buu you spent 5 days coding something that you now have nothing to do with? |
| 01:22.43 | rubik | come 2.4, he shall profit |
| 01:22.50 | RaydenU | what happens in 2.4 |
| 01:22.51 | RaydenU | ? |
| 01:22.52 | Ellipsis | profit in tears |
| 01:22.55 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/78864 |
| 01:22.58 | buu | RaydenU: Something like that. |
| 01:23.04 | Orionshock | ... don't know if it'll work.. |
| 01:23.09 | rubik | RaydenU: combatlog re-worked by blizzard |
| 01:23.14 | khangg | any idea what's up with smartqueue? |
| 01:23.18 | buu | they make all that silliness not necessary. |
| 01:23.23 | buu | I hope. |
| 01:23.25 | khangg | as soon as i right click the drop down menu i get 14 errors |
| 01:23.37 | buu | Ellipsis: I need to make pretty pictures. |
| 01:24.02 | Ellipsis | pretty pictures of bunnies? |
| 01:24.13 | rubik | AV queue time still ridiculous for everyone? was up to 45 mins last night on my battlegroup.. alliance simply refusing to queue |
| 01:24.23 | rubik | teh bastages |
| 01:24.40 | buu | Ellipsis: Graphs. Of datas! |
| 01:24.47 | Ellipsis | mmm, datas |
| 01:24.51 | RaydenU | Ellipsis if you were looking for geeky guys you should have gone to the school i went to 5:1 ratio |
| 01:24.52 | buu | rubik: Yeah, it's pretty cool really, but I need to something with it. |
| 01:25.02 | Xinhuan | you know most alliance don't play AV anymore right? |
| 01:25.07 | rubik | yeah |
| 01:25.10 | Xinhuan | alliace only plays eots and ab now, 4x as much honor |
| 01:25.22 | Diao | i queue eots/ab while waiting for av queues |
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| 01:25.25 | rubik | it's really infinitely as much |
| 01:25.27 | Xinhuan | than the 60 honor you get from a losing AV |
| 01:25.31 | rubik | since they were getting zero from AV |
| 01:25.33 | rubik | but yeah |
| 01:25.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+v AnduinLothar] by ChanServ |
| 01:25.41 | buu | rubik: that's really hilarious. |
| 01:25.42 | Ellipsis | RaydenU, tbh I've found the ratio of geeky guys to others is best on IRC |
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| 01:26.19 | RaydenU | probably true |
| 01:26.30 | RaydenU | my school was only engineering so it was pretty bad |
| 01:26.39 | kenlyric | you really want a geeky guy with a job. |
| 01:26.44 | kenlyric | it's an important distinction |
| 01:26.53 | NightHawkTheSane | if it was only 5:1 that's not that bad >.> |
| 01:26.57 | rubik | buu: how deep are your actor/player arrays so far? or what do you actually parse? more than just actions by actor with timestamps? |
| 01:27.11 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: what does a job have to do with anything? |
| 01:27.38 | kenlyric | you don't want a basement dweller |
| 01:27.45 | Ellipsis | I don't? |
| 01:27.51 | kenlyric | they are unsatisfactory in MANY WAYS |
| 01:27.56 | Ellipsis | speak for yourself |
| 01:27.57 | buu | kenlyric: Depends on how big the basement is. |
| 01:28.11 | rubik | come 2.4, i'm really hoping i can use the bullshit that is (free) hosted WWS reports.. |
| 01:28.13 | buu | rubik: It's purely parsing, turning lines in to events. |
| 01:28.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis totally IS a basement dweller |
| 01:28.19 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 01:28.27 | rubik | s/use/stop using/ |
| 01:28.29 | Zhinjio | <3 Ellipsis |
| 01:28.30 | buu | rubik: I'd like to do to the usual dps/hps/etc stuff. |
| 01:28.35 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 01:28.36 | RaydenU | Ellipsis you pretend to be less intelligent to impress boys? |
| 01:28.45 | Ellipsis | I don't know what I did to deserve that Zhinjio, but I'll take what I can get <3 |
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| 01:28.46 | rubik | gotcha |
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| 01:28.47 | buu | rubik: But I'm very interested in ideas for using the data. |
| 01:28.55 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: oh, she doesn't have to pretend. :P |
| 01:28.57 | Ellipsis | RaydenU: I don't do anything to impress boys :P |
| 01:29.03 | Ellipsis | NHTS, you're making me emo |
| 01:29.04 | buu | Ellipsis: Hey, does this smell like chloroform to you? |
| 01:29.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: pfft, you're already emo <3 |
| 01:29.18 | RaydenU | i'm reading a book on... identity i guess |
| 01:29.18 | Ellipsis | oh yeah, I forgot |
| 01:29.19 | Orionshock | dylanm: you looked at both links eh? |
| 01:29.21 | kenlyric | all she has to do is make sure they know she's girl. It's impressive enough for internet use. |
| 01:29.34 | RaydenU | it's talking about how we pretend to be all sorts of things we aren't in order to make people view us the way we want to be viewed |
| 01:29.47 | buu | DIBS. |
| 01:29.55 | rubik | my head exploded. |
| 01:30.08 | buu | rubik: I think the first thing is doing a per fight break down.. |
| 01:30.11 | buu | And a total thing.. |
| 01:30.25 | rubik | would be a beautiful way to start out, yeah |
| 01:30.32 | rubik | nice dhtml tables or whatever |
| 01:30.42 | buu | rubik: I'm not sure of the best way to display it though. |
| 01:31.10 | RaydenU | seems like it's says bad things about guys if women pretend to be less intelligent in order to "impress" us |
| 01:31.25 | RaydenU | stupid men |
| 01:31.42 | rubik | so wait.. us men are impressed by dumb(er) women? |
| 01:31.44 | Ellipsis | if I wanted to be taken seriously I wouldn't be telling people I was female, that's for sure :P |
| 01:31.55 | khangg | postman > zmail :) |
| 01:32.17 | rubik | i think i still use Postal |
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| 01:32.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: pfeh, i don't take anyone seriously, regardless :P |
| 01:32.34 | RaydenU | rubik i think men are afraid of intelligent women |
| 01:32.37 | RaydenU | it's stupid |
| 01:33.03 | RaydenU | impressed was the wrong word |
| 01:33.12 | RaydenU | i couldn't think of anything better off the top of my head though |
| 01:33.48 | Wobin | Ellipsis: you're a woman? omg I thought you were a cat |
| 01:34.15 | rubik | haha |
| 01:34.23 | NightHawkTheSane | odd, i thought she was a chicken, what with being a giant cock. |
| 01:34.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 01:34.40 | Ellipsis | you just really hate me tonight don't you :( |
| 01:34.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate because i love. er wait.. no, that's not right. |
| 01:35.31 | buu | rubik: 'attracted' |
| 01:35.33 | Ellipsis | /sigh |
| 01:35.37 | Xinhuan | ~seen grennon |
| 01:36.07 | purl | grennon <n=jsmith@e04.proxy.fedex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12d 9h 31m 34s ago, saying: 'so it certainly doesnt smell very nice'. |
| 01:36.07 | kenlyric | love leads to anger. anger leads to hate. Then you get the power, and then you get the women |
| 01:36.12 | Xinhuan | ~seen jeremy |
| 01:36.13 | purl | i haven't seen 'jeremy', Xinhuan |
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| 01:36.39 | Ellipsis | aww, but I like apostrophes |
| 01:36.41 | Xinhuan | ~seen jaremy |
| 01:36.42 | purl | jaremy <n=jaremycr@71-32-150-20.chyn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 603d 17h 24m 18s ago, saying: 'thanks dpkg, worked wonders, though I will not be able to remember that...'. |
| 01:36.42 | Ellipsis | they're kinda chewy |
| 01:37.08 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU'RE kinda chewy |
| 01:37.15 | Ellipsis | no, not really |
| 01:37.20 | NightHawkTheSane | and by that, i mean you're a wookie. |
| 01:37.23 | aestil | more creamy i'd say |
| 01:37.56 | Ellipsis | k now this is just getting creepy |
| 01:37.58 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 01:38.08 | NightHawkTheSane | you misspelled "creamy" |
| 01:38.08 | RaydenU | wtf? |
| 01:38.43 | RaydenU | :O |
| 01:39.11 | aestil | i have like... bronchitis or something? |
| 01:39.15 | aestil | i feel the crappy. |
| 01:39.24 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 01:39.32 | Ellipsis | what is it with everyone around here getting sick |
| 01:39.37 | Ellipsis | I'm going to be next, I just know it |
| 01:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | you already are. |
| 01:39.53 | Ellipsis | I meant in the physical sense |
| 01:39.53 | buu | YOU'RE THE CARRIER |
| 01:39.55 | buu | RUN FOR THE HILLS. |
| 01:39.58 | NightHawkTheSane | oh |
| 01:40.01 | buu | Typhoid Ellipsis! |
| 01:40.01 | NightHawkTheSane | well, uh. |
| 01:40.07 | NightHawkTheSane | sick is a state of mind. :P |
| 01:40.18 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't get sick. :) |
| 01:41.11 | RaydenU | same here |
| 01:41.23 | Ellipsis | I haven't been sick in a loooooong time |
| 01:41.35 | RaydenU | i haven't been really sick in years probably |
| 01:41.46 | RaydenU | just sore throats, that sort of thing |
| 01:42.12 | Ellipsis | I hope I don't catch what my bf's got :( |
| 01:43.07 | buu | STDS ARE BOE |
| 01:45.07 | RaydenU | lol |
| 01:46.49 | RaydenU | man this paper is long and boring |
| 01:46.49 | kenlyric | I haven't thrown up i over 14 years. |
| 01:47.00 | Ellipsis | brb |
| 01:47.03 | kenlyric | i'm approaching a nerosis about it, since my wife throws up daily now. |
| 01:47.13 | RaydenU | why? |
| 01:47.23 | kenlyric | she's pregnant. |
| 01:47.33 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, i was going to say bulimia |
| 01:47.35 | RaydenU | first? |
| 01:47.47 | kenlyric | yes |
| 01:47.48 | Orionshock | buu STDs are BoP and are Unique to 5 :P |
| 01:47.56 | RaydenU | i was going to ask if she was pregnant but figured it was safer to just ask generally |
| 01:48.09 | kenlyric | sometimes they're a DoT |
| 01:48.10 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-76-238-250-65.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:48.25 | RaydenU | back loaded dot |
| 01:48.39 | Orionshock | CoD FTL :( |
| 01:48.42 | Ellipsis` | hmm, that was not intended |
| 01:48.52 | RaydenU | ? |
| 01:49.20 | Ellipsis` | well I was trying to switch over to our wireless network so I could move my laptop into the other room |
| 01:49.38 | Ellipsis` | but it appears our wireless is down and I got automatically connected to someone else's |
| 01:49.44 | Ellipsis` | oh well, this works |
| 01:49.51 | Orionshock | Ellipsis what kind or wifi router do you have ...? |
| 01:49.53 | Xinhuan | leecher |
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| 01:50.56 | kenlyric | in some countries you have committed an act of terrorism. Assume the party position. |
| 01:51.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: you should start doing all kind of illegal things to punish them for having an open access point :P |
| 01:51.18 | Ellipsis` | bahaha |
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| 01:51.19 | RaydenU | if ellipsis's neighbor is a nerd she will have a few gigabytes of horse porn on her computer by tomorrow |
| 01:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | if Ellipsis' neighbor were a nerd, that access point wouldn't be open :P |
| 01:52.02 | RaydenU | unless he were trolling for newbs so he could redirect them to naughty sites |
| 01:52.10 | Ellipsis` | I'm more concerned about the fact that my laptop is configured to attempt connections to any random unsecured networks it sees |
| 01:52.24 | kenlyric | DE-FAULT |
| 01:52.27 | Orionshock | fking wws ingame mod, all commented in french... |
| 01:52.28 | RaydenU | mine asks me before it connects to new networks |
| 01:52.28 | Ellipsis` | must be leftover from that horrible time while we waited for our dsl to get hooked up |
| 01:52.29 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a slightly standard configuration |
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| 01:52.38 | RaydenU | for XP? |
| 01:52.41 | Xinhuan | why should you be concerned about that unless you intend to do secure stuff? |
| 01:52.55 | RaydenU | Xinhuan you mean like buy stuff online? |
| 01:52.59 | RaydenU | or play wow? |
| 01:53.00 | Ellipsis` | I'm concerned about it because it's not what I normally have set up |
| 01:53.02 | RaydenU | or check your email? |
| 01:53.04 | Ellipsis` | and definitely not intended |
| 01:53.15 | Xinhuan | if its just irc chat |
| 01:53.19 | Xinhuan | or surfing |
| 01:53.23 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't care |
| 01:53.35 | Ellipsis` | I don't care, obviously, or I would have switched by now :P |
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| 01:53.52 | Ellipsis` | I'm just glad |
| 01:54.04 | Ellipsis` | I'm just glad I caught it here instead of while wardriving >_> |
| 01:54.19 | Funkeh` | you guys talk some bullshit half the time, you know that? :) |
| 01:54.27 | RaydenU | wait |
| 01:54.31 | Wobin | Ellipsis: http://xkcd.com/341/ |
| 01:54.31 | RaydenU | half the time we don't? |
| 01:54.34 | Orionshock | ouch Ellipsis ya, lsnc3.sbcglobal.net |
| 01:54.44 | Ellipsis` | ? |
| 01:54.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: only half the time? :P |
| 01:55.01 | Funkeh` | >.> |
| 01:55.02 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 01:55.04 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 01:55.06 | Orionshock | that's the domain name on your IP as reported by IRC |
| 01:55.51 | Ellipsis` | you mean lsan03? |
| 01:55.51 | Ellipsis` | :P |
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| 01:55.51 | Orionshock | that region always has problems |
| 01:55.52 | Orionshock | least your not on an irvine router |
| 01:55.52 | Ellipsis` | problems? |
| 01:56.04 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.38 | Ellipsis` | yeah ok you lost me |
| 01:56.42 | Orionshock | nmd |
| 01:57.00 | RaydenU | http://bash.org/?202477 |
| 01:57.11 | Ellipsis` | god their dns sucks |
| 01:57.19 | Orionshock | lol |
| 01:58.31 | Orionshock | tbh - im in AZ on Cox Communications's networks, and im actualy using sbc's DNS servers b/c they are more reliable than cox's |
| 01:59.12 | Ellipsis` | holy wow |
| 01:59.20 | Ellipsis` | these people are using a completely unsecured router |
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| 01:59.42 | Ellipsis` | no surprise there are like 12 DHCP clients on |
| 01:59.47 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 01:59.51 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 01:59.54 | Orionshock | lol |
| 01:59.55 | kenlyric | win! |
| 02:00.04 | kenlyric | is the router password still "password" |
| 02:00.06 | Xinhuan | start downloading lots of stuff |
| 02:00.07 | Xinhuan | go |
| 02:00.13 | Orionshock | lol Xinhuan |
| 02:00.17 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i think default router passwords are 'admin' ;) |
| 02:00.23 | Ellipsis` | no |
| 02:00.28 | Ellipsis` | there's no password at all, not even a default one |
| 02:00.31 | kenlyric | username is admin, password is password |
| 02:00.33 | kenlyric | or admin |
| 02:00.33 | RaydenU | time to bake pizza! |
| 02:00.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: o_0 |
| 02:00.38 | kenlyric | or blank. |
| 02:00.46 | kenlyric | depends on the maker. Netgear are password or blank |
| 02:00.46 | Ellipsis` | it doesn't even *ask* for a password |
| 02:00.49 | Ellipsis` | there's nowhere to enter one |
| 02:00.59 | Orionshock | what type of router? |
| 02:01.08 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: linksys uses a blank user and 'admin' for the password i believe |
| 02:01.16 | Ellipsis` | this is kinda funny |
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| 02:01.32 | Xinhuan | maybe its just open to all, your neighbour is rich |
| 02:01.40 | Ellipsis` | man, where were these people when we had no connection |
| 02:02.18 | kenlyric | the only one I can reach is also secured. |
| 02:02.49 | RaydenU | so there are no good cooldown timers? |
| 02:03.03 | Xinhuan | i just opt not to use wireless ;p |
| 02:03.04 | Orionshock | RaydenU: Hourglass? |
| 02:03.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, all the wireless networks near me are secured |
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| 02:05.40 | RaydenU | there is no wowace page on hourglass |
| 02:05.48 | Arcaia | queue times on my server again |
| 02:05.50 | Arcaia | WTF. |
| 02:06.21 | Xinhuan | lol what server |
| 02:06.29 | Xinhuan | mine had 500 queue 2 days ago |
| 02:06.39 | dylanm | Sitting at 119 right now. |
| 02:06.43 | RaydenU | haven't had one since s3 started |
| 02:07.32 | Orionshock | RaydenU: files.wowace.com/Hourglass/Hourglass.zip |
| 02:07.35 | Orionshock | try it |
| 02:07.38 | RaydenU | i want info on it |
| 02:07.40 | RaydenU | already installed it |
| 02:07.47 | Orionshock | ok, what kind of info? |
| 02:07.50 | dylanm | There's a thread |
| 02:07.52 | RaydenU | screenshot |
| 02:07.59 | RaydenU | explanation of what it does |
| 02:08.12 | Orionshock | it's CD mod, it has bars, and it has timmers |
| 02:08.13 | RaydenU | every mod should have at least a sentence explaining it's purpose |
| 02:08.23 | Xinhuan | most addons don't have a wiki |
| 02:08.25 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 02:08.26 | RaydenU | and a screenshot if it has any visual elements |
| 02:08.28 | RaydenU | well they should |
| 02:08.44 | Xinhuan | care to make a wiki for all my addons? :) |
| 02:08.46 | dylanm | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6207.msg104020 |
| 02:09.04 | dylanm | Screenshot. Swoon. |
| 02:09.07 | xyu | Xinhuan: what, in your opinion, are the 4 best Tempest pieces for the bonus |
| 02:09.13 | RaydenU | after all the development time, it seems a waste that the author wouldn't take 5 minutes to make a page for it |
| 02:09.17 | Orionshock | if you want options beyond what it has try Hourglass2 off the branches side |
| 02:09.37 | Xinhuan | the 4 pieces that isn't shoulders - spell penetration on that shit = fucked up for pve |
| 02:09.46 | xyu | haha oki |
| 02:10.15 | dylanm | Yeah that's really weird. |
| 02:10.16 | xyu | is the set bonus better than non setpieces for pve? |
| 02:10.23 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:10.25 | xyu | such as cowl of illidary highborn |
| 02:10.26 | xyu | etc |
| 02:10.26 | xyu | oki |
| 02:10.47 | Xinhuan | cowl is really good though, so if you get that, t6 shoulders is worth getting |
| 02:10.55 | dylanm | The four-piece is awesome. Cowl is also awesome. |
| 02:11.20 | xyu | i'm just trying to maximize my dkp/dps :P |
| 02:11.27 | xyu | been spending too much on sidegrades |
| 02:11.36 | Xinhuan | feel free to use wowequip to char plan ;p |
| 02:11.46 | xyu | i used to, i dont think it's been updated in a while |
| 02:11.47 | dylanm | Hatefury has penetration too... didn't remember that |
| 02:11.50 | dylanm | wth is with this |
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| 02:12.02 | Xinhuan | well, it doesn't really need updates |
| 02:12.04 | xyu | yeah hatefury does too |
| 02:12.24 | xyu | does it have the new gems and stuff ? i dont like entering in URLS >< |
| 02:12.27 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:12.38 | Xinhuan | by wowequip, i mean the ingame addon |
| 02:12.45 | Xinhuan | on wowace |
| 02:12.47 | xyu | oh |
| 02:12.49 | Xinhuan | not the standalone app |
| 02:12.54 | xyu | i haven't tried that |
| 02:12.56 | xyu | i was using the ap |
| 02:13.01 | Xinhuan | the app sucks |
| 02:13.04 | dylanm | Blood-cursed, maybe? |
| 02:13.24 | xyu | yes blood cursed is what i'm going for |
| 02:13.35 | dylanm | Gotta look like a warlock but eh |
| 02:14.08 | kenlyric | i wish talented and drdamage and wowequip could all work together to play "what if" |
| 02:14.09 | xyu | or mantle of nimble thought |
| 02:14.33 | xyu | ken that would be awesome :D |
| 02:14.43 | dylanm | Haste is nice and all. |
| 02:15.37 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, if you can get talented and drdamage authors on irc, maybe that would be possible |
| 02:15.38 | dylanm | 2.4% reduction in cast time... probably okay for missiles. I dunno. |
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| 02:16.27 | xyu | hmm i'm not sure on which feet to go for, slippers of the seacaller? |
| 02:16.30 | haste | dylanm: yes, I am /abuse |
| 02:16.44 | dylanm | Spell haste you dirty tramp. |
| 02:16.50 | haste | >:3 |
| 02:17.18 | Xinhuan | all spellhaste gear is ilvl 128 or so, generally not worth using over 141 ilvl gear from BT/Hyjal |
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| 02:17.35 | dylanm | Yeah I'm just not sold on it. |
| 02:17.59 | xyu | a lot of things have haste on it in BT tho |
| 02:18.03 | xyu | i'm suprised |
| 02:18.12 | Xinhuan | you won't be getting or making them |
| 02:18.12 | dylanm | I mean the blood-cursed shoulders are obviously better but we're trying to conserve some dkp I think :p |
| 02:18.21 | Xinhuan | your HoDs go towards SR |
| 02:18.30 | Xinhuan | not frivolous haste gear |
| 02:18.43 | dylanm | zomg is Xinhuan your gleader |
| 02:19.32 | Xinhuan | any sensible guild would do that anyway! |
| 02:19.58 | dylanm | Maybe his is crazy and has frizzy hair you never know |
| 02:20.29 | dylanm | xyu do you have the boots of blasting right now? |
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| 02:23.37 | xyu | i'm using velvet boots of the guardian |
| 02:23.37 | xyu | atm |
| 02:23.48 | xyu | i never got the pattern :/ |
| 02:23.53 | xyu | it never dropped when i was in the raid |
| 02:23.55 | RaydenU | what is that sword that procs another attack? |
| 02:24.14 | Antiarc | Thrash Blade |
| 02:24.18 | RaydenU | no |
| 02:24.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 02:24.28 | RaydenU | i'm thinking of a different one |
| 02:24.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Blinkstrike |
| 02:24.35 | RaydenU | yep |
| 02:24.44 | NightHawkTheSane | you should have been more specific, though :P |
| 02:25.23 | Antiarc | The Thrash Blade is the original Blinkstrike. |
| 02:25.38 | RaydenU | what other details could i give for blink strike? |
| 02:25.42 | RaydenU | it's shiny? |
| 02:25.45 | Antiarc | it's epic |
| 02:25.47 | Antiarc | It's a world drop |
| 02:25.49 | Antiarc | It's a BC item |
| 02:25.56 | Arcaia | It's overrated |
| 02:26.02 | Antiarc | ^--- |
| 02:26.04 | Antiarc | Win |
| 02:26.12 | Antiarc | Whereas the Thrash Blade was like getting sex as a quest reward |
| 02:26.18 | Arcaia | hemlock WTF!?! |
| 02:26.19 | Arcaia | <3 |
| 02:26.27 | Antiarc | Wait what? |
| 02:26.34 | Arcaia | best addon ever. |
| 02:26.35 | Ellipsis` | o.O |
| 02:26.38 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 02:26.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I still remember thrash blade + HoJ + snd and thinking i was pure rogue sex. |
| 02:26.48 | Antiarc | Well, I wrote it because poisons are annoying |
| 02:26.56 | Arcaia | oh agreed. |
| 02:27.05 | Arcaia | poisons should be castable imo. |
| 02:27.18 | Antiarc | thrown weapons should be poisonable with a 100% proc rate |
| 02:27.21 | dylanm | USE IT AS YOUR OFFHAND |
| 02:27.34 | Arcaia | HoJ was smex. |
| 02:27.37 | RaydenU | like you throw it? |
| 02:27.42 | Antiarc | HoJ was friggin' awesome |
| 02:27.45 | RaydenU | Antiarc pretty overpowered |
| 02:27.51 | RaydenU | rogues would have a ranged slowing attack |
| 02:27.58 | Arcaia | I had HoJ at 53 ;P |
| 02:27.58 | Antiarc | Rogues already have a ranged slowing attack |
| 02:28.02 | Arcaia | pew pew. |
| 02:28.03 | NightHawkTheSane | er, they already do |
| 02:28.04 | RaydenU | what? |
| 02:28.08 | NightHawkTheSane | deadly throw |
| 02:28.10 | NightHawkTheSane | look it up |
| 02:28.12 | Antiarc | And considering that the fastest you can get a thrown weapon to is 2.4 sec |
| 02:28.15 | Antiarc | That's not really very OP |
| 02:28.29 | RaydenU | i was just thinking it would be useful for catching flag catchers |
| 02:28.35 | Godzmack | fastest? |
| 02:28.36 | Antiarc | That's what blind is for |
| 02:28.37 | Antiarc | And sprint |
| 02:28.40 | Antiarc | And distract |
| 02:28.40 | Arcaia | i want a deadly shot |
| 02:28.49 | Antiarc | Arcaia: Like Concussive Shot? :V |
| 02:29.04 | Arcaia | pew pew sunfury bow of the pheonix |
| 02:29.11 | Arcaia | no... like a rogue... shot |
| 02:29.14 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 02:29.19 | Antiarc | I want a wounding shot |
| 02:29.24 | Arcaia | that just does quick bleed damage |
| 02:29.26 | Antiarc | And let me charge up 5 knives to throw at once |
| 02:29.31 | Antiarc | Like the rocket launcher in UT |
| 02:29.34 | Arcaia | based on combo points ;P |
| 02:29.39 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 02:29.42 | Antiarc | Just hold down the throw key |
| 02:29.52 | Arcaia | ranged bleed damage would = pew pew |
| 02:29.56 | Antiarc | click. click. click. click. click. 3k damage + 50% healing debuff! Hay I'm a warrior. |
| 02:30.31 | dylanm | You sound like my friend :p |
| 02:30.37 | kenlyric | how can i use my mouse to turn when I have to click mortal strike |
| 02:31.01 | Antiarc | No, no |
| 02:31.03 | Antiarc | You click rend |
| 02:31.14 | kenlyric | I'm updating the joke for 2.3 |
| 02:31.45 | kenlyric | i love imp aimed shot these days. |
| 02:31.50 | Diao | it's still rend |
| 02:32.03 | kenlyric | nobody ever stops me from firing it, either. |
| 02:32.20 | Godzmack | imp aimed shot? |
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| 02:32.25 | dylanm | They really shouldn't give warriors rend so early. |
| 02:32.30 | Antiarc | Buffed aimed shot really. |
| 02:32.31 | dylanm | Sends entirely the wrong message |
| 02:32.47 | Antiarc | Rend is only good for Deep Wounds if you have like 4% crit. |
| 02:32.55 | Antiarc | Err. |
| 02:32.58 | Antiarc | Not Deep Wounds |
| 02:33.00 | Antiarc | Blood Frenzy |
| 02:33.01 | Diao | blood frenzy |
| 02:33.10 | kenlyric | i like putting it on the second target if I pull two. |
| 02:33.16 | kenlyric | i'm not sure why, I just like it. |
| 02:33.24 | kenlyric | priest holdover. |
| 02:33.24 | Diao | i just cleave/ww |
| 02:33.26 | Diao | and it crits |
| 02:33.31 | Diao | and i get deep wounds on i |
| 02:33.33 | Diao | it* |
| 02:33.35 | Godzmack | for its massive damage ofc kenlyric |
| 02:33.48 | kenlyric | it does OK at level 20. |
| 02:33.57 | Megalon | with rend level 7? |
| 02:33.58 | Antiarc | I'm going to say |
| 02:34.02 | Megalon | ;s |
| 02:34.06 | Antiarc | Mace stuns proccing off of whirlwind is the biggest load of crap ever |
| 02:34.08 | Godzmack | i hope warriors get aoe rend at 72 |
| 02:34.12 | Antiarc | I just run past a warrior |
| 02:34.14 | Antiarc | OH HAY STUN. |
| 02:34.15 | Diao | mace stun procs off blade flurry too! |
| 02:34.16 | Antiarc | >:[ |
| 02:34.21 | Arcaia | low level tanking relies on rend ;P |
| 02:34.36 | Godzmack | on the rogues target Diao |
| 02:34.46 | Godzmack | not on some random bystander |
| 02:34.50 | kenlyric | I also find sunder armor surprisingly effective solo. |
| 02:34.53 | Megalon | they could at least make it stack up or something, like lacterate |
| 02:34.58 | Antiarc | Blade Flurry isn't every 10 sec with an 8-yard range and up to four targets. |
| 02:35.07 | Diao | lol |
| 02:35.24 | Diao | so we stun random people nearby |
| 02:35.28 | Antiarc | yes |
| 02:35.31 | Antiarc | and it sucks so badly |
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| 02:37.44 | Arcaia | you know what - rogues should get Flurry |
| 02:37.47 | Arcaia | regular flurry |
| 02:37.49 | Antiarc | Eh |
| 02:37.50 | Diao | how about no |
| 02:37.52 | Antiarc | We have SnD |
| 02:37.56 | Antiarc | Which is better than Flurry |
| 02:38.05 | Arcaia | pshh. I want SnD and Flurry |
| 02:38.08 | Antiarc | Though if you want to give me flurry on top of SnD I will not complain. |
| 02:38.19 | Antiarc | I'd be happy with Blade Flurry being a passive toggle |
| 02:38.21 | Antiarc | So you toggle it on |
| 02:38.25 | Antiarc | Doubled damage |
| 02:38.37 | Antiarc | Toggle it off when there are sheeps. |
| 02:38.37 | Diao | passive toggle sure |
| 02:38.39 | Arcaia | that one is op |
| 02:38.40 | Diao | if it drains your energy constantly |
| 02:38.42 | Diao | while it's on |
| 02:38.44 | Diao | wc3 style |
| 02:38.50 | Arcaia | but give rogues a different type of flurry |
| 02:38.58 | Xinhuan | keep dreaming |
| 02:39.00 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:39.07 | Diao | 5 energy drain per sec |
| 02:39.09 | Diao | if you reach 0 energy |
| 02:39.12 | Diao | it autotoggles off |
| 02:39.23 | Diao | thus limiting your yellow damage ;) |
| 02:39.57 | Arcaia | who uses yellow damage? |
| 02:40.08 | Antiarc | Yellow damage isn't too terribly huge for a rogue |
| 02:40.15 | Antiarc | I would give up all my yellow damage for double white damage |
| 02:40.19 | Godzmack | in pve maybe |
| 02:41.19 | Antiarc | Eh |
| 02:41.28 | Antiarc | Even double white damage passive would be pretty dadgum amazing in the arena |
| 02:41.40 | Antiarc | Put it some place like Blade's Edge with limited movement and it'd be dead dangerous |
| 02:41.53 | Xinhuan | [12/12 10:40:05] <+Antiarc> I would give up all my yellow damage for double white damage |
| 02:41.59 | Xinhuan | you mean you want to afkdps :) |
| 02:42.07 | Diao | lol |
| 02:42.15 | Antiarc | I mean that I would gain 30% total damage potential and not have to work nearly as hard. >_> |
| 02:42.32 | Diao | i thought it was 60:40 w:y damage |
| 02:42.37 | Antiarc | I run about 65 |
| 02:42.45 | Godzmack | who would you get combo points without yellow damage? :p |
| 02:43.06 | Godzmack | how* |
| 02:43.11 | Antiarc | In Hyjal last night, white damage was 66% of my total |
| 02:43.36 | Antiarc | 70% of my damage on Anetheron, and I put out 1800 DPS for the fight |
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| 02:46.03 | Xinhuan | were you on wounding poison duty? |
| 02:46.06 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 02:46.09 | Antiarc | We have an MS warrior |
| 02:46.12 | Xinhuan | figured |
| 02:46.25 | Antiarc | deadly was only 3% of my damage though |
| 02:47.05 | Xinhuan | you could wear Kelthuzad trinket |
| 02:47.11 | Xinhuan | works on both demons and undead! |
| 02:47.15 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 02:52.38 | Godzmack | wowwebstats working for anyone here? |
| 02:54.15 | Godzmack | oh there it is |
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| 02:54.20 | Killmore | Antiarc: stop qq'ing about your l33t DPS and fix the pet pug threat :P |
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| 02:56.18 | Godzmack | lol looking at my latest wws |
| 02:56.25 | Godzmack | 1 extra attack through Windfury Attack33 |
| 02:56.30 | Godzmack | 1 extra attack through Sword Specialization37 |
| 02:56.33 | Godzmack | how can this be |
| 02:56.44 | Antiarc | Didn't have WF 100% of the time? |
| 02:56.59 | Godzmack | seems like it |
| 02:57.18 | Godzmack | slacking shamans -.- |
| 02:59.34 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, depending on the situation, it can be a pain to keep it up and in range 100% of the time |
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| 02:59.53 | Godzmack | that was mag so i highly doubt it |
| 03:00.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, you didn't say what the fight was, so. :P |
| 03:00.40 | Godzmack | :P |
| 03:01.12 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: fix threat bugs with foreign languages, too! |
| 03:01.13 | Stanzilla | :p |
| 03:01.15 | NightHawkTheSane | also, if you're DW swords that increases the sword spec procs relative to wf. |
| 03:01.40 | Antiarc | I'm DW swords, have WF about 100% of the time, and sword procs never come close to my number of WF procs |
| 03:01.54 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i'm just saying. |
| 03:02.17 | Godzmack | no wondering the retadin was complaining so much :þ |
| 03:02.26 | Godzmack | wonder* |
| 03:02.30 | Godzmack | ugh i need sleep |
| 03:02.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you mean aside from the fact that retadin's have a free profession slot for complaining? :P |
| 03:03.10 | Godzmack | ehhe yes |
| 03:03.10 | dylanm | Hah. |
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| 03:05.28 | RaydenU | how do i move the Hourglass bars? |
| 03:05.59 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.00 | Mecdemort | how weird is this, every time we do gorefiend, my keybindings just stopworking. Then once gorefiend is dead my keybindings come back. |
| 03:06.01 | dylanm | I think |
| 03:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: sacrifice a virgin geek to the ui gods. |
| 03:06.13 | dylanm | He stolllle them |
| 03:06.33 | Godzmack | lol must be a buff Mecdemort |
| 03:06.46 | khangg | Mecdemort, it's a sign to not kill him! |
| 03:06.49 | Mecdemort | i have to turn into a clicker and its just painful |
| 03:06.57 | dylanm | Curse of Clicks |
| 03:07.33 | Godzmack | lol that would be rather funny to see in a future boss fight, the deadliest curse of them all |
| 03:08.29 | RaydenU | i got the hourglass menu to come up |
| 03:08.31 | RaydenU | and i got the anchor |
| 03:08.35 | RaydenU | but moving the anchor does nothing |
| 03:08.37 | dylanm | Or all of your buttons become rend. |
| 03:10.25 | Godzmack | but but rend + mangle debuff = the awesomest of awesome damage |
| 03:11.16 | NightHawkTheSane | .. not if mangle becomes rend too. :P |
| 03:11.33 | Godzmack | lies |
| 03:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's a lie. |
| 03:11.55 | Godzmack | hehehe |
| 03:12.00 | Godzmack | never heard that one |
| 03:14.20 | ulic | if your mom is cake then it makes perfect sense |
| 03:14.32 | NightHawkTheSane | YOUR mom is cake. :) |
| 03:14.43 | kergoth | is it weird that the first thing i thought when reading that was the band, not the food? |
| 03:14.59 | NightHawkTheSane | not terribly, really |
| 03:15.07 | RaydenU | <NightHawkTheSane> RaydenU: sacrifice a virgin geek to the ui gods. <-- Noo! they are so few! also redundancy |
| 03:15.07 | kergoth | ah, good. |
| 03:15.25 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: i hope you were being sarcastic about them being so few ;) |
| 03:17.17 | RaydenU | cake is good |
| 03:17.30 | NightHawkTheSane | I could go for a nice carrot cake. |
| 03:18.23 | Godzmack | i could go for a big slice of dream cake |
| 03:18.23 | kenlyric | what's the website where it tells you what things you can do for your reps at their current level? |
| 03:18.36 | Godzmack | gn |
| 03:18.45 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: er, wowwiki? |
| 03:18.56 | kenlyric | no. |
| 03:19.10 | kenlyric | it's lazier than that |
| 03:19.24 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU'RE lazier than that. |
| 03:19.48 | kenlyric | exactly |
| 03:20.09 | kenlyric | it just gets you out of the armory and says "you need to 17 quests for revered" etc. |
| 03:20.31 | RaydenU | kenlyric wowreputation.com? |
| 03:20.37 | RaydenU | now it's on the nihilum site though |
| 03:20.39 | RaydenU | it links you |
| 03:20.49 | RaydenU | just google("wow reputation") |
| 03:20.54 | dylanm | http://www.ampwow.com/wow/viewreputation/Lower+City.php#startContent |
| 03:21.06 | dylanm | Oh |
| 03:21.35 | RaydenU | so i still do'nt know how to move the hourglass bars |
| 03:21.39 | dylanm | That's even lazier |
| 03:22.19 | dylanm | Have you tried the branches version? If what you're describing isn't working then maybe he has abandoned version 1 |
| 03:22.40 | RaydenU | i just got it off wowace |
| 03:23.39 | khangg | imma hit 70 2night! |
| 03:25.41 | dylanm | Cool |
| 03:26.16 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r56877 10AutoProfitX/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 03:26.16 | CIA-12 | AutoProfitX: |
| 03:26.16 | CIA-12 | - update Locale zhCN |
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| 03:31.15 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r56878 10InFlight_Load/ (Defaults.lua InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc): |
| 03:31.15 | CIA-12 | InFlight_Load |
| 03:31.15 | CIA-12 | - Add zhCN local by isler |
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| 03:40.07 | kebinusan | well they finally got around to fixing akama |
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| 03:41.34 | Stanzilla | orly? |
| 03:42.58 | kebinusan | at least he wasnt bugged the pull we just made |
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| 03:51.25 | zac | naw, he was bugged for us tonight |
| 03:51.48 | zac | i'm enjoying it, but it's not like it's a hard fight anyway. :/ |
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| 03:57.06 | RaydenU | so hourglas is nice |
| 03:57.11 | RaydenU | but it's RIGHT in the middle of my screen |
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| 04:02.43 | kebinusan | heh there we go he bugged on our second pull |
| 04:03.01 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r56879 10AutoProfitX/AutoProfitX.lua: |
| 04:03.01 | CIA-12 | AutoProfitX: |
| 04:03.01 | CIA-12 | - - fixed Cosmos button |
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| 04:05.57 | khangg | RaydenU, mess aroudn with the lua to move it? |
| 04:06.29 | xyu | what's an ace2 mod that lets you move the tooltip? |
| 04:08.30 | RaydenU | that's a lot of work it seems |
| 04:11.01 | khangg | xyu cowtip |
| 04:11.12 | Orionshock | so i tell this group "Look my gear outclasses all of you so we're going to have problems with me generating rage and thus aggro", mage turns to me and says "Arrogant much?" |
| 04:11.31 | Arcaia | I get that alot |
| 04:11.34 | Antiarc | Eh |
| 04:11.40 | Antiarc | I can see how that might be construed as arrogant |
| 04:11.46 | Arcaia | I get invited by friends to Non-heroic/65ish instances |
| 04:11.47 | Antiarc | They just didn't understand what oyu meant |
| 04:11.50 | Arcaia | I'm a fullepics rogue. |
| 04:12.05 | Arcaia | I tries to warn them -> and they are like quit being so egotistical. |
| 04:12.29 | Orionshock | ya so i tell em, no i know how to play tyvm, |
| 04:12.31 | RaydenU | how do i move quartz buffs? |
| 04:12.40 | Antiarc | Arcaia: In those cases I usually just end up tanking |
| 04:12.46 | Arcaia | same same |
| 04:12.48 | Orionshock | mage goes on about "i have a 6 yr old daughter, i have paitiance" |
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| 04:14.43 | Arcaia | pew pew resto rogue tankassassin |
| 04:14.57 | Orionshock | what's sad is that our enh shammy is wearing at least half greens and is still out dps'ing the mage |
| 04:15.00 | Orionshock | by alot |
| 04:15.01 | Arcaia | gimme judgment of light/LotP and pew pew |
| 04:15.18 | RaydenU | setting up quartz buffs is anoying |
| 04:15.20 | RaydenU | classtimer wins |
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| 04:15.38 | Orionshock | RaydenU: i turned it off and still use chronomiter |
| 04:16.36 | RaydenU | no way to disable hourglass... |
| 04:16.46 | Arcaia | ElkBuffBars |
| 04:16.47 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 04:19.52 | RaydenU | EBB for what? |
| 04:20.25 | RaydenU | i usee EBB for my buffs |
| 04:20.31 | RaydenU | just looking at debuffs |
| 04:20.51 | kenlyric | I use it for debuffs too. |
| 04:21.11 | Arcaia | i use it for snd bars... cc stuff |
| 04:21.14 | Arcaia | buffs / debuffs |
| 04:21.35 | Arcaia | my SnD bar is smexy. |
| 04:21.58 | kenlyric | cutup gives me one of those. |
| 04:24.52 | Antiarc | http://jalopnik.com/cars/transformers/homemade-optimus-prime-costume-also-deserves-props-332592.php?autoplay=true |
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| 04:26.58 | NightHawkTheSane | damn, that IS impressive |
| 04:27.47 | Antiarc | I kinda want one. |
| 04:27.53 | Antiarc | Just, like, to walk around the mall in. |
| 04:27.58 | NightHawkTheSane | hah |
| 04:28.09 | Antiarc | I'm 6'10" so I can pull off tall costumes well |
| 04:28.15 | Antiarc | So either that or Darth Vader |
| 04:28.23 | NightHawkTheSane | .. damn, you are tall |
| 04:28.39 | Antiarc | My mom kept feeding me, I kept growing. |
| 04:28.54 | Keias | freak! |
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| 04:31.06 | Antiarc | Well, my wife is 5'3" |
| 04:31.10 | Antiarc | So I figure if we have kids they'll be average |
| 04:31.18 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r56880 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome-UI-FuBar.lua locales/zhCN.lua): |
| 04:31.18 | CIA-12 | ClosetGnome: |
| 04:31.18 | CIA-12 | - update zhCN local by isler |
| 04:31.18 | CIA-12 | - Add support for Feature Frame in Cosmos |
| 04:31.33 | Orionshock | ewww cosmos |
| 04:33.01 | Industrial | ^ |
| 04:33.38 | Xinhuan | actually the "Add support for Feature Frame in Cosmos" turns out to be just a {options table} that is added to "cosmos's rock config" thingy |
| 04:33.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i cosmosed your mom. |
| 04:34.04 | Industrial | beat me to it |
| 04:34.07 | Xinhuan | ie, that table is only loaded if cosmos is detected ;p |
| 04:34.23 | Antiarc | http://www.bengu.net/funny/photo/1392.jpg?=rss |
| 04:34.24 | Antiarc | .... |
| 04:34.41 | khangg | Dinged 70! |
| 04:34.42 | khangg | w00t |
| 04:34.52 | Industrial | gz |
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| 04:35.13 | Keias | garts |
| 04:35.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: hah |
| 04:36.14 | Antiarc | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/964477/aol_news_presents_where_are_they_now/ |
| 04:36.15 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 04:40.16 | Arcaia | GARTS |
| 04:40.20 | Arcaia | and grats khangg |
| 04:40.25 | khangg | thanks :) |
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| 04:44.20 | Hjalte | Antiarc: That's a nice video. |
| 04:44.41 | RaydenU | orcs look stupid when they walk stealthed |
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| 04:46.27 | Aeyan | I remember the rage over the stealth graphic change, especially the night elf male |
| 04:47.11 | Aeyan | Someone posted that now, whenever he was fighting a night elf male rogue and they vanished, he'd forever have visions of Zoidberg going "Did you see me escaping? I was all like, woopwoopwoopwoop!" |
| 04:47.42 | Hjalte | Bah. I should have chosen scryer as a warlock. /me needs bloodgem :( |
| 04:48.01 | mattswell | hmm |
| 04:48.23 | mattswell | if i have a table i want to empty, do I save any resources doing for k, v in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end rather than t = {} ? |
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| 04:50.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis wake up |
| 04:50.47 | sag_ich_nicht | it is not sleepy time yet |
| 04:51.04 | Antiarc | mattswell: If t[k] are tables, then you allow the tables to be freed |
| 04:51.16 | Antiarc | Also |
| 04:51.26 | Antiarc | Nilling all the elements prevents you from creating another table |
| 04:51.50 | sag_ich_nicht | about time you start reacting properly to my assaults |
| 04:51.54 | Antiarc | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-kitten-printer.jpg |
| 04:52.05 | Aeyan | Haha |
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| 04:52.29 | mattswell | how often is garbage collected? random? |
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| 04:52.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: what could cause that Omen doesn't show Threat-1.0 data, but threat-1.0 itself works fine? |
| 04:52.49 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: No idea. I'm researching that now actually. |
| 04:52.50 | Provus | Does anyone know of an alternative to Moveit? I just read it's causing an error with Cartographer, I only use it to move the PVP objectives frame. |
| 04:53.05 | Antiarc | mattswell: Uhhh. Before the 5.1 upgrade it was when you hit the GC limit |
| 04:53.11 | Antiarc | Now it's incremental and continual, I believe |
| 04:53.20 | Antiarc | You should avoid creating tables where possible though |
| 04:53.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: because one of our maintanks(who also happens to be... well let |
| 04:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | 's not go into that, but i feel very obligated to help her) has that problem |
| 04:54.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and it got me nearly killed on gruul today, so i kind of would like to find out what is causing that and punch whatever is doing it |
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| 04:54.29 | Antiarc | I've had a couple of other people report it |
| 04:54.30 | Antiarc | Weird as hell |
| 04:54.39 | Antiarc | If you could, have them install Assessment and use the Threat module on it |
| 04:54.42 | Antiarc | See if it shows the right data |
| 04:54.48 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmm |
| 04:54.48 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 04:55.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i will ask her to, but considering that she is LAZY AS FUCK, that will be hard to do. took forever to get her to install WAU already >< |
| 04:55.50 | mattswell | are there any good resources for panels? i wanted to make a wide panel for a gui. i was using the friends panel graphics as a base, but it's limited on width :) |
| 04:55.58 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 04:56.03 | sag_ich_nicht | there is a pretty damn good resource |
| 04:56.09 | sag_ich_nicht | it's called photoshop CS3. |
| 04:56.35 | mattswell | awesome |
| 04:56.35 | mattswell | so no |
| 04:57.40 | Aeyan | Well, there's GIMP too |
| 04:57.51 | mattswell | i've got mspaint :D |
| 04:57.53 | Aeyan | But I just play with eepanels |
| 04:58.06 | Arcaia | I use CS2 |
| 04:58.10 | Aeyan | At least until I make something that isn't hideous |
| 04:58.10 | Arcaia | Fireworks is also amazing |
| 04:58.17 | Arcaia | [but noone ever uses it] |
| 04:58.36 | Aeyan | CS3 has a horribly annoying brush lag bug on my system |
| 04:58.45 | sag_ich_nicht | oÔ |
| 04:59.02 | Antiarc | <-- CS2ite |
| 04:59.13 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 04:59.19 | Arcaia | you actually own your copy Antiarc? |
| 04:59.22 | Hjalte | http://www.secondose.com/harold-and-kumar-2-escape-from-guantanamo-bay/ <-- Is that an actual movie? oO |
| 04:59.39 | sag_ich_nicht | why am i getting 40 repeating errors when i login while in combat. |
| 04:59.50 | Antiarc | I have a uh. Creatively licensed copy. Though I'm actually buying a copy after the first of the year. |
| 05:00.07 | Aeyan | I dunno, you seem to find a lot of errors that other do not =P |
| 05:00.24 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure that sag_ich_nicht just drags random files around |
| 05:00.28 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 05:00.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't |
| 05:00.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 05:00.31 | Antiarc | And then is all Y IT BRAKEZ ON ME |
| 05:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 05:00.37 | Antiarc | yes |
| 05:00.39 | Antiarc | you're all |
| 05:00.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i found what broke my Threat-1.0 |
| 05:00.46 | Antiarc | "I don't like all these directories" |
| 05:00.46 | sag_ich_nicht | it was auramap |
| 05:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up |
| 05:00.50 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 05:00.51 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 05:00.52 | Antiarc | "I'll put them all in one directory" |
| 05:00.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i actually have a friend like that |
| 05:00.57 | Antiarc | "and delete the files that start with C" |
| 05:01.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i want to hurt him so much |
| 05:01.03 | Antiarc | "I don't like C." |
| 05:01.09 | sag_ich_nicht | with a blowtorch or something like that |
| 05:01.12 | Antiarc | Don't lie, you totally do. |
| 05:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | NO, piss off. |
| 05:01.31 | sag_ich_nicht | no actually, wait, stay here |
| 05:01.45 | Antiarc | hahah |
| 05:01.46 | Antiarc | <3 |
| 05:01.55 | sag_ich_nicht | most of them from the Ace2 event system(no, i don't have them pastey yet, THAT IS KIND OF HARD TO DO WHEN YOU LOGIN AFTER A DISC AT MAG) |
| 05:03.01 | sag_ich_nicht | also i couldn't see who had assists again today |
| 05:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | wtb patch 2.3.2 |
| 05:03.10 | sag_ich_nicht | so all those creepy errors go away |
| 05:20.53 | RaydenU | what is the cost for name change? |
| 05:20.59 | Keias | $10 |
| 05:21.07 | RaydenU | meh |
| 05:21.11 | RaydenU | i don't like the name on my new mage |
| 05:21.15 | RaydenU | but now i'm lvl 16 |
| 05:23.26 | Antiarc | http://hcsoftware.sourceforge.net/passage/ <-- this is amazing and well worth your time |
| 05:32.31 | Arcaia | what addon would put 'CoolDown Monitor' |
| 05:32.37 | Arcaia | mid screen for no reason.. ora2? |
| 05:32.42 | Antiarc | yes |
| 05:32.54 | Arcaia | k ;P |
| 05:33.06 | Arcaia | picked it up for my new guild... it's meh. |
| 05:34.36 | sag_ich_nicht | hold alt |
| 05:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | drag with left mouse button |
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| 07:28.37 | Hjalte | Is there anything similar to www.warcrafter.net , but that will suggest item upgrades for me maybe? |
| 07:36.21 | MentalPower | yes |
| 07:36.50 | MentalPower | http://www.wowarmory.com/ |
| 07:37.12 | Hjalte | Meh. I don't like wow armory :\ |
| 07:37.27 | MentalPower | whats wrong with it?? |
| 07:37.32 | MentalPower | s/??/?/ |
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| 07:38.20 | Hjalte | Bugs up my firefox :) |
| 07:38.34 | many | its nice xml + browserparsed xslt, though |
| 07:40.55 | Megalon | yea, sometimes firefox just stalls when surfing to the armory :< |
| 07:42.35 | RLD_osx | only time I've had an issue was when an plugin was configured wrong. noscript will definately mess with it. |
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| 08:13.48 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r56881 10Automaton/modules/Queue.lua: |
| 08:13.48 | CIA-12 | Automaton: |
| 08:13.48 | CIA-12 | -Properly Close the battleground frame instead of ghetto:Hide()'ing it |
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| 08:30.15 | Industrial | woah I didnt know warcrafter.com |
| 08:30.17 | Industrial | so light :o |
| 08:33.24 | Lukian | Industrial, wrong url? |
| 08:33.36 | Industrial | Lukian: nop |
| 08:33.38 | Industrial | http://boulderfist-eu.warcrafter.net/Seryan |
| 08:33.58 | Industrial | Lukian: oh, I mean light as in light-weight appliaction - not color |
| 08:34.01 | Lukian | http://warcrafter.com/ |
| 08:34.05 | Industrial | hue whatever |
| 08:34.22 | nevcairiel | indy misspelled the .net to be a .com :P |
| 08:34.24 | Industrial | er, and .net :P |
| 08:34.29 | Lukian | heh :P |
| 08:34.31 | Lukian | that explains it |
| 08:34.39 | nevcairiel | now, give servers back already |
| 08:34.49 | Industrial | ~fail Industrial |
| 08:34.49 | purl | Industrial: Fail. |
| 08:34.51 | Industrial | nevcairiel: agreed |
| 08:35.04 | Lukian | what's the percentage? |
| 08:35.15 | nevcairiel | percentage? |
| 08:35.17 | Industrial | can has 2.3.2 btw :<? |
| 08:35.20 | Industrial | what percentage |
| 08:35.30 | nevcairiel | no 2.3.2 .8 |
| 08:35.41 | Industrial | i reeeally dont want to level my pet from 61 to 67 |
| 08:35.44 | Industrial | ill be 70 before that |
| 08:35.51 | Industrial | plus it cant hold aggro for shit now |
| 08:35.57 | Industrial | and im bm :P |
| 08:36.03 | nevcairiel | tame a new 67 pet |
| 08:36.04 | Lukian | Arcane Shot |
| 08:36.04 | Lukian | 1.6 DPM |
| 08:36.04 | Lukian | 16.44%/656 |
| 08:36.10 | Industrial | no, its my kitty :< |
| 08:36.15 | nevcairiel | crit chance |
| 08:36.35 | Industrial | I _abandoned_ my 67 pet :P |
| 08:36.44 | Industrial | it was ugly |
| 08:36.56 | nevcairiel | get a pink strider |
| 08:36.57 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 08:37.08 | Industrial | that a level 11 mob |
| 08:37.13 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 08:37.29 | Industrial | why :P |
| 08:38.22 | Megalon | or the green one, everyone has the pink one ;o |
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| 08:38.50 | nevcairiel | mm the stats on that page are off |
| 08:39.06 | nevcairiel | i have a higher crit chance with my warrior |
| 08:39.24 | Industrial | its a clad! all hide! |
| 08:39.25 | Codayus | Get the ghost wolf, it's cool |
| 08:39.42 | nevcairiel | so clad returns after his 2 day sleep :P |
| 08:39.53 | Industrial | Codayus: I dont even know anyone with drums :P |
| 08:39.53 | cladhaire | lol i havent been sleeping for two days |
| 08:39.54 | cladhaire | i wish |
| 08:40.30 | Codayus | Industrial: You need cooler friends, IMHO. |
| 08:41.06 | Industrial | yeah :( |
| 08:41.29 | Industrial | i am unguilded and have 1 in my friends list |
| 08:41.35 | Industrial | + my alts |
| 08:41.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 08:41.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:45.03 | Orionshock | is this the right syntax? |
| 08:45.05 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.45 | nevcairiel | thats prolly not what you want |
| 08:45.49 | Orionshock | or does t.insert only work right with lists and not dictionary's? |
| 08:46.14 | Orionshock | true, trying to avoid adding a table walker to this function... |
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| 08:46.30 | nevcairiel | table.insert only works for integer indexed lists |
| 08:46.35 | Industrial | uhm, you are making a (python) tuple, lua doesnt have those |
| 08:46.35 | Orionshock | fk |
| 08:46.37 | Orionshock | ... |
| 08:46.48 | nevcairiel | if you need to add to a dictionary, you can just do table[key] = value? |
| 08:46.49 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:46.56 | Orionshock | i know... |
| 08:47.16 | Orionshock | but like i said, im trying to avoid adding a table walker to create each k / v pair |
| 08:47.19 | Industrial | or does it :P maybe with metatables |
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| 08:48.51 | Orionshock | ahhhhh..... trying to turn an event handler into a CHAT_MSG_ADDON handler .... |
| 08:52.21 | evl\Blend | I've been having a ton of disconnection problems since last maintenance |
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| 08:52.40 | evl\Blend | I removed all addons yesterday and now it's fine again, what could possibly cause disconnections, do addons even have that kind of access? |
| 08:53.03 | cladhaire | yes |
| 08:53.09 | cladhaire | if they send too much data over the addon channels |
| 08:53.19 | evl\Blend | Every 5-10 minutes I got a dc |
| 08:53.25 | cladhaire | you could write an addon that hooks SendAddonMessage and see what could be sending so much data |
| 08:53.26 | Orionshock | wtb sanity check http://ace.pastey.net/78872 :D |
| 08:53.43 | evl\Blend | cladhaire: Sounds like a nice feature for FuBar_PerformanceFu |
| 08:54.01 | cladhaire | nah, cause its game disrupting |
| 08:54.03 | cladhaire | one moment. |
| 08:54.16 | evl\Blend | well like CPU profiling it could be optional. |
| 08:54.32 | evl\Blend | Anyway, it happens more frequent on a wireless connection than a wired, but it still happens on a wired. |
| 08:54.45 | evl\Blend | Could it be that some addon is spamming so much that the connection goes unsync and drops? |
| 08:55.09 | cladhaire | possibly |
| 08:55.10 | cladhaire | one moment. |
| 08:56.32 | Orionshock | evl\Blend: our guild uses GroupCalender, it spammes the addon channel for a good minut or 2 when someone logs in |
| 08:56.49 | cladhaire | do /run s=select;t=tostring;local ats(a, ...) if s("#",...) > 0 then return t(a), ats(...) else return t(a) end; local o=SendAddonMessage; function SendAddonMessage(...) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(strjoin(", ", ats(...))) end |
| 08:56.57 | Industrial | why would you even consider using something like that after it happens the second time? |
| 08:57.02 | cladhaire | that will stop all messages from being sent, and will report each message to ChatFrame1 |
| 08:57.14 | evl\Blend | thanks a lot, I'll definetly test that out today |
| 08:57.24 | Industrial | use an out of game thing and enforce active checking |
| 08:57.29 | Industrial | thats what i'd do anyway |
| 08:57.32 | Orionshock | ... |
| 08:57.39 | evl\Blend | Problem was, I just got a tryout in a new guild and I started getting the dc problems the same day :/ |
| 08:57.46 | Orionshock | been trying, Guild Leader has ADD w/regards to it |
| 08:58.07 | cladhaire | evl\Blend: aye, that'll at least tell you what addon is SENDING messages |
| 08:58.16 | cladhaire | and you shouldn't get disconnected from receiving alone |
| 08:58.22 | evl\Blend | Yeah, I have no problems playign with default UI |
| 08:58.33 | cladhaire | well you can play with your other addons |
| 08:58.35 | evl\Blend | actually, I played better pvp with default because there's less shit in the center of my screen :D |
| 08:58.40 | cladhaire | i would just see if that helps the issue |
| 08:58.40 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 08:58.54 | evl\Blend | like havin unitframes bottomcenter = instant tunnel vision :D |
| 08:58.55 | Industrial | plan things and if someone misses it because he forgot to check its his fault. if there aren't enough people and everyone cant go then its a more serious problem and its also the fault of the people that didnt check |
| 08:59.07 | Industrial | I see no problem with that :P |
| 08:59.31 | Civrock | cladhaire: Just tried to run that command and my Bugsack called. |
| 08:59.41 | cladhaire | what error did it give |
| 08:59.44 | cladhaire | i was logging in now to test |
| 08:59.52 | Civrock | <string>:"s=select;t=tostring;local ats(a, ...) if s("#",...) > 0 then re...":1: ')' expected near ',' |
| 08:59.53 | Civrock | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1768: in function `value': |
| 08:59.53 | Civrock | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3108: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3033>: |
| 08:59.53 | Civrock | <in C code>: in function `ChatEdit_ParseText' |
| 08:59.54 | Civrock | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2800: in function `ChatEdit_SendText': |
| 08:59.54 | Civrock | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2821: in function `ChatEdit_OnEnterPressed': |
| 08:59.55 | Civrock | <string>:"*:OnEnterPressed":1: in function <[string "*:OnEnterPressed"]:1> |
| 09:00.20 | evl\Blend | Someone was also posting on the forums |
| 09:00.35 | evl\Blend | that with wireless the new voice chat protocol is sending bogus data that make N routers choke |
| 09:02.44 | cladhaire | do /run s=select;t=tostring;local function ats(a, ...) if s("#",...) > 0 then return t(a), ats(...) else return t(a) end end; local o=SendAddonMessage; function SendAddonMessage(...) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(strjoin(", ", ats(...))) end |
| 09:02.48 | cladhaire | that should be correct |
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| 09:02.54 | cladhaire | mebbe |
| 09:03.31 | Civrock | No error this time. |
| 09:03.36 | Orionshock | Civrock: ace.pastey.net - try it |
| 09:06.17 | evl\Blend | cladhaire: actually, most of my new guild people are running Recount, NECB, that-other-threat-meter and various other addons not using AceComm, could that be the case? |
| 09:06.41 | Orionshock | recount is a known twat of a comms addon |
| 09:06.47 | cladhaire | it wouldn't be the lack of acecomm, no |
| 09:06.49 | Orionshock | spamms nearly every chance it gets |
| 09:06.57 | cladhaire | it could be combined with what you're running, along with what you're receiving |
| 09:07.14 | Orionshock | cladhaire: it'd be the lack of it using something to the effect of CTL |
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| 09:07.25 | cladhaire | as i said, i don't think GETTING message boots anyone.. but there is a combined limit of data that can go back and forth without getting d/c |
| 09:07.27 | evl\Blend | Yeah, because the problems only appeared after the first raid, although it did still happen outside of raids. |
| 09:07.29 | cladhaire | Orionshock: indeed. |
| 09:08.00 | evl\Blend | but since I wiped my addons dir save for a few "safe bets" (Threat, Violation, oRA2, BW) it's been fine |
| 09:08.36 | evl\Blend | holy shit, I just realized SorrenTimers just added group syncing when maintenance was, *dissect* |
| 09:08.43 | Orionshock | infact a recent change in GroupCalender started using CTL, oddly enough it allready had message throttling but it sucked... |
| 09:09.08 | evl\Blend | an addon that monitors and syncs running buffs in a raid/bg would possibly send out a LOT of spam |
| 09:11.29 | evl\Blend | basically everytime it creates or updates a candybar it does self:SendCommMessage("GROUP", "new", skill, name, icon, offset, duration); same when a bar is killed |
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| 09:13.37 | cladhaire | yep that macro works |
| 09:13.45 | cladhaire | Ace2 is sending the damn LOOTOPENED messages |
| 09:14.12 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.16 | cladhaire | LIES |
| 09:14.35 | evl\Blend | I sniffed a bit as I gained 10-20 FPS when disabling all addons |
| 09:14.45 | cladhaire | lol |
| 09:14.48 | evl\Blend | I thought the default addons I've replaced were inefficient and bloted? |
| 09:14.50 | evl\Blend | bloated? |
| 09:16.19 | Neebler | What in Bonzo's Brass Buttons are you going on about? yaagh, that's one mother of a headache! |
| 09:16.41 | evl\Blend | I'm going to light you up sweetcheeks! |
| 09:16.47 | evl\Blend | I hate that monologue |
| 09:17.13 | nevcairiel | where was that from? i cant remember |
| 09:17.25 | evl\Blend | Botanica |
| 09:17.36 | Neebler | arcatraz. Millhouse the gnome |
| 09:17.42 | nevcairiel | ah yeah milhouse |
| 09:17.45 | evl\Blend | I wish you could kill Milhouse Manastorm in heroic instead of the boss :P |
| 09:17.59 | Neebler | how dare you sir |
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| 09:19.36 | ramoz | why is my WAU so goddamn slow? |
| 09:19.53 | Neebler | have you heard his actual sound files? they're hilarious |
| 09:20.00 | Neebler | especially the "heal me for the love of god" |
| 09:21.15 | FinalX | I'm gonna light you up, sweet-cheeks. |
| 09:21.17 | evl\Blend | :D |
| 09:22.11 | Neebler | /script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\MillhouseManastorm\\TEMPEST_Millhouse_LwHlth01.wav") |
| 09:22.34 | Neebler | /script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\MillhouseManastorm\\TEMPEST_Millhouse_Pyro01.wav") |
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| 09:26.35 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r56882 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0-namespaces.lua): |
| 09:26.35 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 09:26.35 | CIA-12 | - fix namespace profile handling and add some tests |
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| 09:32.48 | nevcairiel | oh yay servers already back half an hour early |
| 09:33.58 | evl\Blend | with the personal rating lameness bug fixed :( |
| 09:34.03 | evl\Blend | Was planning on exploiting it today actually |
| 09:40.27 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:40.33 | [Ammo] | hey evl |
| 09:42.32 | evl\Blend | [Ammo]: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( |
| 09:42.34 | evl\Blend | brb :P |
| 09:42.40 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:44.01 | evl\blend | holy shit :PO |
| 09:44.05 | evl\blend | linking nicknames could be easier yeah? |
| 09:45.21 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 09:46.00 | vhaarr | just don't change your nick? |
| 09:46.09 | evl\blend | I had to, new guildies going bla blba bal :P |
| 09:46.18 | vhaarr | heh |
| 09:46.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:46.57 | evl\blend | and mirc don't allow for separate nicks on separate servers |
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| 09:47.30 | vhaarr | just don't use mIRC? |
| 09:47.32 | vhaarr | :P |
| 09:48.12 | evl\blend | it's grown on me |
| 09:48.28 | Diao | o_O |
| 09:48.30 | Diao | yes it does |
| 09:48.45 | Diao | /s serverip -i nick |
| 09:48.47 | vhaarr | tumors grow on you |
| 09:49.33 | Diao | i use different nicks on different servers all the time :O |
| 09:53.42 | nevcairiel | my mirc allows that too |
| 09:54.26 | evl\blend | well I like this nick |
| 09:54.34 | evl\blend | blackslashes in your nick is the Paris Hilton |
| 09:55.21 | Diao | o_O |
| 09:55.24 | Diao | so... slut? |
| 09:56.45 | Industrial | just have a sensible original short name without anything to "make it look nicer" and everyone is happy |
| 09:56.57 | Industrial | same for showing afk status in nicks |
| 09:57.00 | Industrial | boring is good |
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| 09:59.15 | Industrial | in other news |
| 09:59.19 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r56883 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBars.lua Bartender4.lua Button.lua Options.lua): Bartender4: use db namespaces to store the actionbar configs, zomgmoremodular |
| 09:59.22 | Industrial | daaaaamn gold spammers are spamming irc now |
| 09:59.41 | Industrial | on server chans on quakenet |
| 09:59.42 | Industrial | :| |
| 09:59.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:02.40 | Industrial | and you cant stop em there either |
| 10:02.46 | Industrial | hate that about the internet |
| 10:02.55 | Industrial | anytinhg public and anyone can fuck it up |
| 10:05.32 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56884 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome-UI-FuBar.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix up cwdg/isler's commit. |
| 10:07.49 | evl\blend | Industrial: One Problem, One Solution, One Command - Choose /ignore |
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| 10:14.34 | Industrial | evl\blend: you obviousltn haven't had anything fucked up yet :P |
| 10:14.49 | Industrial | you cant stop it |
| 10:15.25 | evl\blend | Industrial: Does it help to know I enjoy your anguish? :) |
| 10:16.09 | Xinhuan | [12/12 17:46:47] <evl\blend> and mirc don't allow for separate nicks on separate servers |
| 10:16.11 | Xinhuan | that is wrong |
| 10:16.26 | Xinhuan | you can have a connect script per server and include a /nick in it |
| 10:16.47 | nevcairiel | or change your nick once you connected :P |
| 10:16.54 | Orionshock | lolz new guild tradition, every KZ run we bet 10g on what the opera event is |
| 10:17.12 | evl\blend | I bet 10g every kara run that Surefooted doesn't drop |
| 10:17.23 | Xinhuan | i've done 43 karas, no sunfire yet |
| 10:17.44 | nevcairiel | 43 karas .. with one char? |
| 10:17.51 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:17.52 | nevcairiel | is that even possible ? :P |
| 10:17.58 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:18.02 | evl\blend | Hehe, I have sunfire :D |
| 10:18.05 | Xinhuan | its been nearly a year |
| 10:18.07 | Xinhuan | since tbc launch |
| 10:18.16 | Xinhuan | 43 weeks of kara |
| 10:18.41 | evl\blend | it's a 1-2% drop isn't it? |
| 10:18.42 | nevcairiel | dunno, we stopped doing kara sometime in june |
| 10:18.45 | Xinhuan | first kara run was jan 31st, i remember |
| 10:18.53 | Xinhuan | oh we just do alt runs |
| 10:19.02 | Xinhuan | with like alt tanks and stuff |
| 10:19.05 | Xinhuan | 3 hour full clears |
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| 10:20.20 | Xinhuan | hmm should i convert postal into a module system unpacked into 8 folders? |
| 10:21.10 | [Ammo] | not worth it |
| 10:22.17 | Xinhuan | each module is so small it doesn't seem worth it |
| 10:23.24 | Xinhuan | anyway, gonna commit a load of changes soon that allows each module to be on/off ingame rather than users manually deleting the file they don't want |
| 10:24.30 | evl\blend | LibsharedMedia-2.0 is annoying |
| 10:24.56 | evl\blend | it silently makes any addon dependant on it fail to load if it's not enabled from the addons screen instead of being loaded when needed by Ace2 like everything else |
| 10:25.29 | nevcairiel | get used to it |
| 10:25.39 | nevcairiel | we got rid of auto-enabling anyway |
| 10:25.49 | evl\blend | but no error message? |
| 10:25.56 | evl\blend | no (dependency missing!) in the addons creen |
| 10:26.06 | [Ammo] | that must be the addon that loads it |
| 10:26.14 | [Ammo] | the addon that uses it should handle that |
| 10:26.17 | evl\blend | Violation afaik |
| 10:26.26 | nevcairiel | its not a hard dependency because it could be embeded |
| 10:26.33 | nevcairiel | but the addon should give you a error message |
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| 10:26.53 | [Ammo] | it should error indeed |
| 10:26.58 | [Ammo] | local SM = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-2.0") |
| 10:27.07 | [Ammo] | that will generate an error if the lib is not there |
| 10:27.12 | [Ammo] | so I guess you have UI errors turned off |
| 10:28.09 | evl\blend | Might be, I've learned not to contest ammo in ui matters so I'll check when I get home :P |
| 10:28.27 | evl\blend | How often can SendCommMessage be called without causing problems? |
| 10:28.53 | nevcairiel | its not about how often |
| 10:28.55 | [Ammo] | unlimited |
| 10:29.06 | [Ammo] | since chat throttle lib is there |
| 10:29.08 | [Ammo] | and will throttle |
| 10:29.16 | nevcairiel | only if you use it :) |
| 10:29.22 | [Ammo] | violation enforces it :p |
| 10:29.25 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:29.37 | vhaarr | if you have CTL, you have no choice |
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| 10:29.46 | evl\blend | I don't think I do |
| 10:29.53 | vhaarr | if you have AceComm, you do |
| 10:29.53 | [Ammo] | then violation will error |
| 10:30.00 | [Ammo] | since it specifically checks for CTL |
| 10:30.14 | evl\blend | nope, I ran violation all last night |
| 10:30.22 | evl\blend | no errors and there's no file named ChatThrottleLib in my addons dir |
| 10:30.25 | [Ammo] | then you have CTL |
| 10:30.31 | [Ammo] | it's inside the acecomm file :p |
| 10:30.35 | evl\blend | aha :P |
| 10:33.34 | nevcairiel | regarding sharedmedia anyway, once we get our CallbackHandler out as stable, we'll probably put a SML-2.1 out, which fixes all the stuff that the hackjob 2.0 implementation is |
| 10:33.47 | [Ammo] | Elkano did a good job on that one |
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| 10:45.49 | Codayus | Hm, how do you activate/use TourGuide? Anyone know offhand? I must be missing something obvious... |
| 10:47.27 | Xinhuan | dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable() and dewdrop:FeedOptionsTable() whats the difference? |
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| 10:57.27 | Tem | Xinhuan, who knows |
| 10:57.36 | Tem | that lib is evil |
| 10:58.08 | Xinhuan | hmm |
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| 11:02.57 | V3T | hi |
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| 11:08.20 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: does CTL hook SAM to enforce throttling? thought i heard mikk say it wouldn't do that... |
| 11:09.02 | [Ammo] | it doesn't but AceComm's SendCommMessage uses CTL |
| 11:09.16 | [Ammo] | and Ace3's variant uses CTL as well |
| 11:10.01 | nevcairiel | CTL hooks SAM to detect rogue addons sending stuff, so it throttles itself down, but it doesnt intercept it |
| 11:11.01 | Orionshock | ... wtb CTL built into WoW's UI |
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| 11:12.27 | Orionshock | anyone know of an ASCII art addon? one that spamms the chat channels with ascii art? |
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| 11:21.37 | Industrial | ~lart Orionshock |
| 11:21.37 | purl | nukes Orionshock with a single large nuke |
| 11:21.47 | Orionshock | what?? |
| 11:21.53 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56887 10MobNotes/ (MobNotes.lua MobNotes.toc): |
| 11:21.53 | CIA-12 | MobNotes: Added a slash command (/mobnotes) to set notes. Target a mob and type |
| 11:21.53 | CIA-12 | /mobnotes to set a note with a dialog or type /mobnotes Note to set the note |
| 11:21.53 | CIA-12 | directly. Put it in a macro and/or your action bar to assign keybindings to it. |
| 11:21.53 | CIA-12 | Setting it to an empty string with the dialog will clear the note completely. |
| 11:21.53 | Orionshock | why u hate on me? |
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| 11:54.31 | CIA-12 | FuBar_GarbageFu: NINJACOMMIT: |
| 11:54.31 | CIA-12 | - Make merchantframe button look better when disabled (more transparent, no square gray block around it) |
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| 13:07.02 | RaydenU | morning |
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| 13:24.59 | RaydenU | you can't cast Faerie Fire while in cat or beaf form can you? |
| 13:25.35 | nevcairiel | there is a speicla feral faerie fire that you have to spend a talent point on |
| 13:25.46 | RaydenU | ok |
| 13:25.50 | RaydenU | i was wondering what the talent meant |
| 13:26.30 | Iceroth | it's a piece of crap placeholder for the real 21pt feral talent they never implemented |
| 13:27.02 | RaydenU | link to a decent lvl 70 feral build? |
| 13:27.54 | Xinhuan | ammo, did you ever finish making the trade window enchanting menu popup thing? |
| 13:28.19 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nayfal |
| 13:28.22 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nayfal, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 12354 HP; 7700 Mana; 129 mana regen; 39 mp5; 8161 Armour; 838 AP; 150.200 Melee DPS; 22.35% melee crit; 18 melee hit; 133 defense; 44.13% dodge; 19 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 702 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvtw79 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nlvs4 ][ Updated: Wed Dec 12 08:30:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:28.24 | nevcairiel | our raiding feral |
| 13:28.29 | Iceroth | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGMsfroeuioVxhz - notice the 1 unspend talent point, i have no idea what's the best place for that |
| 13:28.51 | RaydenU | i should act like a newb and ask for a horde build not an alliance one :P |
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| 13:29.22 | RaydenU | seems like one should take almost every feral talent |
| 13:29.24 | Iceroth | nev, that's so pve spec it even hurts |
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| 13:30.28 | nevcairiel | Iceroth: i said raiding feral :P |
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| 13:31.14 | Iceroth | well obviously but there are points that give him pretty much next to nothing for pve but would help tons in pvp if spent otherwise |
| 13:31.17 | RaydenU | what good is Nurturing Instinct? |
| 13:31.25 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 13:31.29 | nevcairiel | dont think its any good |
| 13:31.33 | Iceroth | it isn't |
| 13:31.46 | Iceroth | gives like 100 +healing with my s3/t5 gear |
| 13:31.49 | RaydenU | nev no Furor? |
| 13:31.53 | Megalon | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?00000000000000000000053303213232210533125105500001000000000000 |
| 13:32.16 | nevcairiel | Iceroth: he has been thinking about changing imp gotw to furor and let us restos buff the raid, but meh :P |
| 13:32.24 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 13:32.51 | RaydenU | MotW you mean? |
| 13:33.13 | RaydenU | man every time i'm in class i read about druids and wish i was a higher level :) |
| 13:33.15 | Iceroth | same thing |
| 13:33.25 | Iceroth | !c eu stormreaver iceroth |
| 13:33.28 | ThraeBot | Iceroth: Iceroth, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 11424 HP; 7970 Mana; 111 mana regen; 4826 Armour; 1054 AP; 160.500 Melee DPS; 29.13% melee crit; 89 melee hit; 28.64% dodge; 326 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 977 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo8sb5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xndzk ][ Updated: Wed Dec 12 08:35:13 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:33.32 | Iceroth | whee |
| 13:33.57 | RaydenU | are the builds for feral dps and feral tank much different? |
| 13:34.05 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 13:34.07 | Iceroth | thick hide or not basically |
| 13:34.14 | Iceroth | i have 1/3 there |
| 13:34.17 | RaydenU | cause it seems like you just take "all" the feral talents anyways |
| 13:34.28 | Iceroth | or well, if you go pve, you can get both best dps and tank stuff |
| 13:34.37 | Iceroth | if you wish to do some pvp too, you gotta sacrifice a bit |
| 13:34.41 | nevcairiel | well noone specs feral aggression |
| 13:34.56 | nevcairiel | and nurturing insitnct |
| 13:35.12 | nevcairiel | and the 14 points in resto are good too, other then that, just spec everything in feral :P |
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| 13:35.28 | RaydenU | intensity looks nice |
| 13:35.40 | Iceroth | some pvp'ers prefer that 1 point in balance for nature's grasp |
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| 13:36.39 | RaydenU | i like how many druid talents are "benefits you in kitty form AND benefits you in this other unrelated way in bear form" |
| 13:36.43 | RaydenU | or "adds this to healing AND this to tanking" |
| 13:37.46 | Iceroth | well yeah that's what they tried to do but... only useful healing thing i've ever had post-tbc is T5 2-set bonus |
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| 13:38.06 | RaydenU | i was talking about talents not gear, but that's nice |
| 13:38.13 | RaydenU | lol |
| 13:38.21 | Iceroth | feral talents give jack for healing |
| 13:38.26 | RaydenU | in the example in class they are making a BFG9000 class |
| 13:38.47 | nevcairiel | you get a fuckload of mana specced feral =P |
| 13:38.53 | RaydenU | talents like Feral Instinct |
| 13:38.57 | RaydenU | or Feral Swiftness |
| 13:39.03 | RaydenU | or Naturalist |
| 13:39.18 | RaydenU | reduces casting time of HT by 0.1 sec and increases all physical dmg by 2% |
| 13:39.36 | Iceroth | yeah that's just a feral talent in wrong tree with useless side effect |
| 13:39.37 | mjc | moo |
| 13:39.50 | nevcairiel | or a resto talent with useless side effects :P |
| 13:39.56 | RaydenU | very different feel to druid talent trees than priest |
| 13:39.57 | Iceroth | you never ever cast 3s heal anywhere where it would matter the slightest bit if it took 0.5s longer |
| 13:40.08 | Iceroth | no sane resto ever specs for that |
| 13:40.19 | nevcairiel | sure you do |
| 13:40.25 | RaydenU | but Iceroth because you would NEVER use both benefits at the same time, you can make each benefit good enough to be worth it |
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| 13:40.58 | nevcairiel | i still use HT on alot of fights |
| 13:41.55 | Iceroth | what fights? you mean you drop out of tree form to cast one HT or you find time in pvp to cast 3s cast uninterrupted? |
| 13:42.12 | RaydenU | lol |
| 13:42.25 | RaydenU | i should do my reading so i can play later... |
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| 13:43.07 | nevcairiel | mostly all fights with one tank, i do a rotation to keep rejuv/lifebloom up and while i dont have to cast any hots i put a HT |
| 13:43.20 | nevcairiel | i dont have mana issues, so tree doesnt get me anything |
| 13:43.45 | RaydenU | healing in tree form isnt' enough? |
| 13:44.04 | RaydenU | cause if healing is sufficient and no mana issues, why bother with HT? |
| 13:44.20 | nevcairiel | why not? :) |
| 13:44.38 | RaydenU | less efficient and more work? |
| 13:44.47 | nevcairiel | but i would idle in that time anyway |
| 13:44.52 | RaydenU | i guess |
| 13:44.56 | RaydenU | it's like when i run normal SL now |
| 13:45.05 | RaydenU | VT, SWP, VE, sit and watch |
| 13:45.19 | Iceroth | if you are in the same party as your tank and he gets the tree aura, i really find it hard to believe not using tree outweights the benefits (especially when the aura increases healing from other healers as well) |
| 13:45.26 | RaydenU | can't use MF for fear of getting aggro |
| 13:45.53 | nevcairiel | if i am in the tanks group i am there to have the aura |
| 13:46.05 | nevcairiel | but we cant put all druids in the tanks group |
| 13:46.07 | JoshBorke | RaydenU: you can tank normal SL |
| 13:46.14 | RaydenU | with my shadow priest? |
| 13:46.24 | RaydenU | sorry, should have mentioned that |
| 13:46.25 | JoshBorke | RaydenU: yes |
| 13:46.29 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 13:46.39 | RaydenU | shadow tank ftw |
| 13:46.54 | RaydenU | i always end up tanking that SH ogre boss |
| 13:47.01 | RaydenU | he has wonky aggro and low dps |
| 13:47.04 | nevcairiel | just saying, to get the optimal performance, i still do use healing touch quite often, really depends on the fight, and i've seen them all. |
| 13:48.27 | RaydenU | the dilemma i have is whether it's worth grabbing some lvl 29 bg gear or just leveling |
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| 13:53.16 | mjc | RaydenU: pvp in between questing sessions and iirc there are epix starting at lvl38 |
| 13:53.38 | RaydenU | well i'm lvl 29 so i can't do too much questing |
| 13:53.50 | mjc | there are tons of quests for 29 |
| 13:53.56 | mjc | duskwood for alliance |
| 13:53.59 | RaydenU | i mean i'll level |
| 13:54.07 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r56891 10Postal/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:54.07 | CIA-12 | Postal: - Each module can now be enabled/disabled ingame without needing to delete the individual module files! Use /postal or the options dropdown menu when you visit the mailbox. |
| 13:54.07 | CIA-12 | - Lots of code cleanups/optimizations all over. |
| 13:54.08 | RaydenU | then pvp would be less fun |
| 13:54.17 | RaydenU | also i'd feel bad for my team doing pvp at 30 :P |
| 13:54.27 | RaydenU | although i guess that would be the efficient time to get gear |
| 13:54.33 | mjc | indeed |
| 13:54.35 | RaydenU | although isn't the pvp reward gear require x8? |
| 13:55.25 | RaydenU | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/arathi/index.html <-- the crap? |
| 13:55.34 | RaydenU | look at the 30-40 reward gear, some of it requires lvl 40 |
| 13:55.42 | RaydenU | wait |
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| 13:55.55 | RaydenU | did they change the level to be 30-40 not 30-39? |
| 13:55.59 | mjc | no |
| 13:56.15 | mjc | but if you level past 39 and have some honor you have something new to help you get to 49 |
| 13:56.38 | RaydenU | cause that lists the range as 30-40 |
| 13:56.45 | RaydenU | all the others are 20-29 and 40-49 |
| 13:56.58 | RaydenU | no i guess it's 41-49 |
| 13:56.59 | RaydenU | i'm confused |
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| 14:16.26 | Sangsu | hi, have a question about everyquest anyone here who knows that addon? |
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| 14:18.43 | ramoz | Xinhuan: is Postal as fast as BulkMail in retriving now? |
| 14:19.02 | Xinhuan | Postal retrieves an item every 0.5s |
| 14:19.46 | Xinhuan | so if you have 10 items in 1 mail, that 1 mail will take 5 secs to open |
| 14:20.38 | Xinhuan | so 50 mails with at most 1 attchment each takes 25 secs, add 0.5s per item beyond the first |
| 14:21.10 | ramoz | well this is all nice and flashy numbers! i will have to try it again! |
| 14:21.17 | Xinhuan | haven't had anyone complain abot non-working "open all" yet |
| 14:21.38 | Xinhuan | i'm going to add "open all ah mail" tonight or something |
| 14:21.50 | ramoz | i remember beeing amazed on how fast bulkmail2inbox were compared to postal |
| 14:22.01 | Stanzilla | what's not working with "open all"? |
| 14:22.14 | ramoz | sometimes it skips items |
| 14:22.17 | ramoz | or it used to |
| 14:22.21 | Xinhuan | that's cos postal before i took over maintenance used to open 1 per 1.5 sec |
| 14:22.29 | Xinhuan | i merely changed it to 0.5 |
| 14:22.33 | [Ammo] | I think bulkmail just opens it all |
| 14:22.41 | [Ammo] | hell and high water etc |
| 14:23.01 | Xinhuan | ya but i hear issues with BM's current openall |
| 14:23.09 | Xinhuan | ammo, did you ever finish making the trade window enchanting menu popup thing? |
| 14:23.10 | [Ammo] | it has worked for me 100% |
| 14:23.21 | [Ammo] | nope I didn't |
| 14:23.47 | [Ammo] | I just did some testing and gave an estimate of 50 mins |
| 14:25.44 | thul | hmm |
| 14:25.45 | thul | itunes:( |
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| 15:00.26 | thul | does not swing timers work when DW? |
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| 15:04.57 | kenlyric | pretty sure it only tracks the main hand |
| 15:05.08 | kenlyric | at least that's what quartz seems to do. |
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| 15:07.11 | Pkekyo| | get equal speed weapons thul :> |
| 15:07.35 | nevcairiel | it would still get out of sync at some point |
| 15:08.39 | QuantumDelta | never seen a swing timer work for both weapons |
| 15:08.47 | QuantumDelta | like ever |
| 15:09.27 | thul | how am I supposed to time slam with DW then? :-P |
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| 15:11.00 | Industrial | ~seen ag` |
| 15:11.04 | purl | ag` <n=Andreas@0x535b3bba.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 14m 45s ago, saying: 'sharedmedia 2.0 is different from the old version, you can't just change a lib and potentially mess with a lot of addons'. |
| 15:11.56 | Industrial | The ag_Unitframes Ace3 branch is suffering from scaled down slider inaccuracy :( |
| 15:12.11 | Industrial | jumps from 189 to 203 etc |
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| 15:12.22 | haste | sliders - Industrial's worst enemy. |
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| 15:15.40 | Industrial | I refuse to use 1.0 global scaling |
| 15:15.42 | [Ammo] | Industrial: click the number and fill it in then |
| 15:15.44 | Industrial | o_O |
| 15:15.49 | Industrial | [Ammo]: :O! |
| 15:15.56 | [Ammo] | you're always whining whining whining |
| 15:15.58 | [Ammo] | !! |
| 15:16.09 | Industrial | omg genius [Ammo] |
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| 15:16.41 | Industrial | [Ammo]: well valid whining because I didn't know this feature existed |
| 15:16.43 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:16.50 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 15:17.09 | [Ammo] | you didn't even try! |
| 15:17.18 | Kalroth | Industrial: If you had to move 195 arrows out of a stack of 200 arrows, you'd click 195 times? :P |
| 15:17.19 | [Ammo] | it was the first thing I did when nargiddley made the gui thing :p |
| 15:17.22 | [Ammo] | click the number |
| 15:17.33 | Industrial | Kalroth: no, 5 times :P |
| 15:17.43 | Kalroth | @#?%! |
| 15:17.45 | Industrial | [Ammo]: yes works fine \o/ |
| 15:17.51 | Kalroth | Industrial: If you had to move 100 arrows out of a stack of 200 arrows, you'd click 100 times? :P |
| 15:17.52 | Kalroth | There! |
| 15:17.56 | [Ammo] | shift-click, fil in number, click, click to put in bag |
| 15:18.01 | [Ammo] | 4 clicks! |
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| 15:18.12 | [Ammo] | 3 maybe even |
| 15:18.22 | Industrial | Kalroth: how would YOU do it |
| 15:18.49 | Kalroth | shift-click the stack, type backspace, type 100, press ok |
| 15:19.12 | Kalroth | I don't recall if you have to click the window first, I think it's modal, but I can't test it :p |
| 15:19.19 | Industrial | Kalroth: the thing is that I whined FOR a feature like this (although it lready existed) |
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| 15:19.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:19.34 | Kalroth | So it's actually Ammos fault! |
| 15:19.38 | Kalroth | Since he didn't tell you before now. |
| 15:19.39 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 15:19.46 | Kalroth | Bad Ammo, bad. |
| 15:19.50 | [Ammo] | but Industrial is a bit mentally challenged |
| 15:19.58 | [Ammo] | due to silly music and drugs |
| 15:20.04 | nevcairiel | even i didnt know thats possible to type the number there |
| 15:20.11 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 15:20.12 | nevcairiel | the number looks like a default fontstring :D |
| 15:20.14 | Kalroth | nevcairiel is mentally challenged too! |
| 15:20.29 | [Ammo] | well nevcairiel is german |
| 15:20.31 | [Ammo] | eod |
| 15:20.53 | nevcairiel | dont forget that its not too far from here to where you live.. :P |
| 15:21.13 | [Ammo] | *closes the border* |
| 15:21.58 | Xinhuan | [12/12 23:17:48] <@[Ammo]> shift-click, fil in number, click, click to put in bag |
| 15:22.05 | Xinhuan | i just press ENTER after typing the number |
| 15:22.14 | [Ammo] | I probably do as well |
| 15:22.19 | [Ammo] | I was just trying to reach 5 clicks |
| 15:22.29 | Industrial | I WIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 15:22.50 | Industrial | Kalroth: gief cookie |
| 15:23.11 | Kalroth | Sorry, no cookies, but I got some broken Lua code you can have! |
| 15:23.30 | Industrial | pastey :P |
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| 15:24.19 | Kalroth | Oh, I don't have it on me, I only got some Pascal. I'm sure I can find you some broken Lua code when I get home. |
| 15:24.59 | Kalroth | Actually, it's not true. There's a basket with cookies right over there. But I'm not sharing. |
| 15:26.09 | Industrial | :< |
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| 15:44.47 | Xinhuan | i can code in pascal ;p |
| 15:45.01 | nevcairiel | everyone can code pascal |
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| 15:47.42 | EvilJohn | yes, but can you code in Modula-2 |
| 15:47.47 | sb | Ada95! |
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| 15:51.12 | sb | nevcairiel: giev BT4 :) |
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| 15:52.28 | Pkekyo| | about the movie 300: :p |
| 15:52.28 | Pkekyo| | "Hehehe ... I even respeced to 31 points in prot to get that shield slam after I watched that film because I liked so much tthose Spartans fight style ... then I got owned by warlock 4 lvl lower then me and fascination gone." |
| 15:52.34 | Preystalker | morning everyone |
| 15:52.39 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin |
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| 15:53.38 | Pkekyo| | why does warriors seem to want to be spartans all of a sudden? >.< |
| 15:54.55 | Preystalker | cuz they are the best warrior the world has ever seen? |
| 15:55.00 | thul | spartans? :-P |
| 15:55.18 | [dRaCo] | 'cause they were into lil boys? o0 |
| 15:57.26 | Pkekyo| | lols |
| 15:57.39 | Pkekyo| | thul: didn't you see 300? go to the cinema...NOW! |
| 16:00.40 | Preystalker | awesome movie |
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| 16:18.03 | mort | this is madness! ;) |
| 16:18.07 | Tinyboom | well.... it's only kinda awesome the 2 or 3 first times, after that it looses it's awesomeness :p |
| 16:19.49 | CIA-12 | 03samuelcup * r56895 10Postal/Locales/zhCN.lua: Postal: -zhCN updated |
| 16:19.56 | Codayus | Most things do. |
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| 16:21.15 | Polarina | Blizzard opened a new realm in Europe! |
| 16:21.34 | Preystalker | the matrix has never lost that appeal for me |
| 16:21.46 | Preystalker | it's been awesome after the 46th time |
| 16:22.42 | Megalon | so is the life of brian ;D |
| 16:23.33 | Tinyboom | there are always exceptions to the "never watch a movie more than twice" rule :) |
| 16:24.29 | kenlyric | a horrid memory means "it's new to me!" |
| 16:24.36 | Tinyboom | lol |
| 16:24.48 | Tinyboom | altzheimer light? :p |
| 16:25.11 | Tinyboom | or goldfish syndrome^^ |
| 16:26.09 | kenlyric | a little from column a, a little from column b. |
| 16:29.06 | kenlyric | truly great movies can always be appreciated for their art. |
| 16:29.21 | kenlyric | you don't just look at the mona lisa once. |
| 16:35.03 | Pkekyo| | 17:21PolarinaBlizzard opened a new realm in Europe! <---- wha? name of the server? |
| 16:37.59 | Pkekyo| | anyone know the name of the new server? |
| 16:38.55 | Polarina | Molten Core. |
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| 16:45.12 | Pkekyo| | what does "recommended" guild population mean? |
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| 16:45.39 | mort | almost empty |
| 16:46.06 | Pkekyo| | so it can be considered a 'new' realm? |
| 16:46.14 | Polarina | No. |
| 16:46.22 | [Ammo] | it can be cnosidered a 'deserted' realm |
| 16:46.31 | Pkekyo| | meh |
| 16:46.40 | Pkekyo| | geif new realm |
| 16:47.06 | many | mh |
| 16:47.10 | many | blues can flood threads |
| 16:47.12 | many | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1878358005&sid=3&pageNo=1 |
| 16:47.21 | many | hell, i didnt even know there were so many blues :D |
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| 16:52.54 | Polarina | many: There are tons of more blues that haven't posted. |
| 16:52.55 | stavmar_ | what was teh lua command that might be executed with an inventory mod when you dismount or change outfits, one that scans your bags and such. One that might lead to lots of lag while dismounting and changing your outfit at the same time? |
| 16:53.13 | stavmar_ | What is* |
| 16:54.30 | many | Polarina: bad them! |
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| 17:00.27 | Giftorm | can anyone tell me what raidframes this is? |
| 17:00.28 | Giftorm | http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/WoWScrnShot_072507_215244.jpg |
| 17:00.40 | Industrial | yes |
| 17:00.45 | Industrial | well, depends |
| 17:01.15 | Giftorm | on?:P |
| 17:01.27 | Industrial | who that somebody is |
| 17:01.35 | Polarina | This is just hilarious. Everyone in the trade channel is talking about Zul'Zul. |
| 17:01.37 | Industrial | if it were me then , yes I can |
| 17:01.39 | mort | perfect raid frames? |
| 17:01.52 | EvilJohn | loks like ag_uf to me |
| 17:01.59 | mort | errr perfectraid |
| 17:02.00 | Industrial | it's perfectraid |
| 17:02.04 | vithos | looks like the default perfectraid to me |
| 17:02.29 | EvilJohn | hm |
| 17:02.33 | vithos | but of course it could be something else configured to look the same |
| 17:02.54 | EvilJohn | I made my ag_uf look just likethat, then |
| 17:03.01 | EvilJohn | either way, it's a bet of a mess |
| 17:03.04 | EvilJohn | bit |
| 17:03.14 | vithos | i made my pitbull raid frames look sort of like that, but better |
| 17:03.38 | EvilJohn | yeah, I use pitbull to do something similar |
| 17:03.54 | EvilJohn | no portraits, 3d or otherwise |
| 17:03.59 | Industrial | I dont use raidframes |
| 17:04.20 | EvilJohn | grid for raid frames is what I'm using now |
| 17:04.25 | Industrial | but then again I don't raid so |
| 17:04.27 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:04.32 | EvilJohn | looks healbot inthe screenshot |
| 17:04.46 | mort | i use it for instances too |
| 17:05.07 | EvilJohn | yeah |
| 17:05.27 | EvilJohn | I don't have any group frames either |
| 17:05.36 | EvilJohn | just grid |
| 17:07.06 | CIA-12 | 03schelli * r56896 10GridAutoFrameSize/: Created directory GridAutoFrameSize |
| 17:07.12 | evl\Blend | Uh |
| 17:07.14 | evl\Blend | I reset my UI |
| 17:07.25 | evl\Blend | and now I can't see an option for "display lua errors" |
| 17:07.45 | Industrial | default interface |
| 17:08.04 | evl\Blend | how do I enable any advanced options? |
| 17:08.13 | Industrial | by going into the advanced tab |
| 17:08.58 | evl\Blend | Still no option there |
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| 17:09.27 | Industrial | look harder |
| 17:09.30 | Industrial | its there |
| 17:09.59 | CIA-12 | 03schelli * r56897 10GridAutoFrameSize/ (5 files): GridAutoFrameSize : First file upload |
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| 17:12.31 | evl\Blend | Industrial: http://i14.tinypic.com/6jex8q0.jpg |
| 17:13.18 | haste | evl\Blend: wrong tab |
| 17:13.26 | haste | it's under basic -> dispay |
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| 17:13.31 | haste | display* |
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| 17:13.53 | evl\Blend | uugh |
| 17:13.56 | evl\Blend | i feel retarded |
| 17:14.00 | haste | :D |
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| 17:21.01 | Jops | Anyone here happen to have anything to do with DrDamage? :o |
| 17:21.31 | nevcairiel | Gagorian does |
| 17:22.02 | Jops | k :o |
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| 17:30.45 | [dRaCo] | so I've been trying to find out why msbt_Cooldowns doesnt group the spells... anyone got any idea? |
| 17:31.25 | kergoth | doesnt msbt already do cooldowns built in, without a seperate addon? |
| 17:31.51 | [dRaCo] | if so, I'm too stupid to find the options o0 |
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| 17:34.41 | Xinhuan | err |
| 17:35.00 | Xinhuan | did they disable all warlock summoning in ZA since tues maintenance? |
| 17:35.18 | Xinhuan | blizzard is going out to annoy players or what |
| 17:35.59 | Xinhuan | our lock says "You cannot do that here" |
| 17:36.15 | Hjalte | Xinhuan, let me try that when i get in. |
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| 17:37.33 | Xinhuan | so annoying, you can't summon ppl to the dragonhawk boss |
| 17:37.45 | Xinhuan | without reclearing the scouts trash |
| 17:38.12 | Pkekyo| | anyone fancy telling me how to get BT attuned? |
| 17:38.17 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271076383&sid=1 |
| 17:38.18 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 17:38.32 | Xinhuan | blizzard flagged the whole ZA as no-summon |
| 17:38.34 | Xinhuan | gg |
| 17:38.36 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 17:39.42 | Xinhuan | appears nobody knows why |
| 17:40.53 | stavmar | Xin, what was the name of that mod you wrote for keeping track of inventory, or something like that? Bank...? I am sorry i forgot the name of it. |
| 17:40.56 | Bruners | Pkekyo|: do the quests in shadowmoon valley, talk to the guy in ssc, kill al'ar, kill ras frostwhisper |
| 17:41.05 | Xinhuan | bankitems |
| 17:41.10 | stavmar | TY |
| 17:41.16 | Pkekyo| | Bruners: can't get into SSC/TK at this time :< |
| 17:41.22 | kebinusan | Pkekyo|: http://www.wowwiki.com/Black_Temple_Attunement |
| 17:41.30 | Xinhuan | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1699 for screenshot |
| 17:41.41 | Xinhuan | but the wowace version is newer |
| 17:41.44 | Pkekyo| | thanks kebinusan |
| 17:41.55 | Bruners | Pkekyo|: no need for bt attunement if you dont do ssc yet |
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| 17:42.41 | Jops | Kill ras frostwhisper eh? :| |
| 17:42.45 | Stan_ | Xinhuan: On a related note, we're looking into fixing some issues with summoning that would once again enable us to allow warlocks to summon people into an instance from anywhere in the world. This could happen as soon as the next big content patch (2.4.0) if all of the technical issues can be resolved by then. |
| 17:42.48 | Jops | Isnt he scholo? |
| 17:42.49 | Stan_ | now that is cool |
| 17:43.02 | Bruners | Jops: maby he is called something else |
| 17:43.06 | Jops | :D |
| 17:43.12 | Jops | Rage Winterchill :> |
| 17:43.23 | Bruners | almost correct :P |
| 17:43.27 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, I've got to do arcatraz |
| 17:43.31 | Bruners | first boss in mount hyjal atleast |
| 17:43.42 | Pkekyo| | Bruners: just might get the opportunity to join a BT guild...hence: attunement |
| 17:44.15 | Bruners | shouldnt be a problem having them to do a saturdayssc run to get you attunened then |
| 17:44.26 | Bruners | if you have done your part with the prequests that is |
| 17:44.45 | evl\Blend | Can one still override UI blp files by putting them in Interface\Blabla\File.blp? |
| 17:45.00 | Stan_ | Pkekyo|: kill vashj + kael + winterchill => BT |
| 17:45.05 | Xinhuan | stan, that isn't quite the same |
| 17:45.12 | Xinhuan | as why they disabled summoning in za |
| 17:45.24 | Stan_ | Xinhuan: they disabled it because of an exploit |
| 17:45.35 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 17:45.51 | Stan_ | just read the link you posted^^ |
| 17:46.01 | Stan_ | there's a bluepost in that thread |
| 17:46.12 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:46.20 | Xinhuan | when i linked it, theer was no blue post in it |
| 17:46.32 | Xinhuan | and it was only 1 page,not 2 |
| 17:46.33 | stavmar | Xinhuan: what do you mean the wowace version is newer, is their a wiki on it somewhere? |
| 17:46.34 | Pkekyo| | Bruners: haven't done much of it tbh |
| 17:46.37 | kenlyric | I really should get the prereqs for BT done in case the opportunity ever presents itself. |
| 17:46.37 | Stan_ | 17. Re: Summons in ZA? | 12/12/2007 05:24:03 PM UTC |
| 17:46.48 | Saroz | which bag mod do you guys use? |
| 17:47.01 | Xinhuan | means the version at http://files.wowace.com/BankItems/BankItems.zip is newer than the version if you download from incgamers |
| 17:47.18 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r56898 10Postal/Locales/koKR.lua: |
| 17:47.18 | CIA-12 | Postal: |
| 17:47.18 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 17:48.32 | stavmar | Xinhuan: i never downloaded it just yet, but i will, did you add tooltip information yet? |
| 17:48.40 | Xinhuan | yes, sometime ago |
| 17:48.57 | Xinhuan | its basically a duplicate of sanity |
| 17:49.04 | Xinhuan | for the tooltip |
| 17:49.22 | Xinhuan | but i used a cache that is more efficient |
| 17:50.42 | stavmar | oh that is sweet |
| 17:50.46 | stavmar | will be testing it out |
| 17:50.54 | Xinhuan | i think i know what the za exploit is now |
| 17:51.16 | Xinhuan | you could apparently walljump the door at the start of za, and summon the raid on the other side |
| 17:51.32 | Xinhuan | so you can clear all the trash without triggering the timers |
| 17:51.38 | stavmar | do you respond to questions about the mod on that site or do you use any other forum? |
| 17:51.42 | Xinhuan | then go bac and trigger it and kill all 4 bosses |
| 17:51.44 | stavmar | Xinhuan: that is a bunch of Hax, |
| 17:51.52 | stavmar | who would dare do that |
| 17:52.06 | stavmar | so many cheaters in the world.... |
| 17:52.30 | Xinhuan | stavmar, atm, i just read the stuff on incgamers, since the mod's been up there nearly 2 years with nearly 170k downloads - until someone starts a thread on wowace forums too heh |
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| 17:52.58 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: that's stupid |
| 17:53.06 | Xinhuan | i suppose yes |
| 17:53.10 | Xinhuan | but i'm lazy |
| 17:53.19 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: the za exploit that is |
| 17:53.26 | JoshBorke | btw, do you have to do the za bosses in a certain order? |
| 17:53.26 | Xinhuan | oh heh |
| 17:53.41 | Xinhuan | you can do the first 3 in any order |
| 17:53.53 | Xinhuan | bear, eagle, lynx that is |
| 17:54.04 | JoshBorke | but not hawk? |
| 17:54.04 | Xinhuan | dragonhawk can only be reached after you kill bear |
| 17:54.04 | nevcairiel | first 4 even |
| 17:54.10 | JoshBorke | ok |
| 17:54.23 | JoshBorke | so wolud the best path be eagle, bear, hawk, lynx? |
| 17:54.26 | Xinhuan | then to reach malacrass (5th), you need to have cleared the first 4 |
| 17:54.32 | Xinhuan | then zuljin |
| 17:54.36 | nevcairiel | bear eagle hawk lynx |
| 17:54.37 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 17:54.42 | JoshBorke | why bear eagle hawk? |
| 17:54.51 | Xinhuan | eagle -> bear -> dragonhawk -> lynx |
| 17:54.54 | Xinhuan | is the recommended |
| 17:54.55 | JoshBorke | because then you're backtracking |
| 17:55.03 | Xinhuan | because that is less backtraking |
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| 17:55.21 | Xinhuan | kiling eagle adds +15 min, kiling bear +20 min, the rest +0 min |
| 17:58.00 | Xinhuan | in fact |
| 17:58.18 | Xinhuan | eagle -> bear -> dragonhawk -> lynx has no backtracking at all, apart from the eagle --> bear part |
| 17:58.46 | Xinhuan | you just jump down from hawk to start clearing lynx trash |
| 17:59.41 | nevcairiel | for the time event you need bear first, so you can just get used to it |
| 17:59.52 | Xinhuan | nah you don't |
| 18:00.02 | CIA-12 | 03xyphor * r56899 10PowerDisplay/ (pdOptions.lua pdUpdate.lua): PowerDisplay: Block, Dodge and Parry chance added |
| 18:00.07 | Xinhuan | the initial 20 min is more than enough to kill eagle from entrance |
| 18:01.59 | stavmar | Xinhuan: the mod is awesome... |
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| 18:02.32 | Xinhuan | yeah, but they wouldn't fix the download count on incgamers :< and wowace doesn't give numbers either |
| 18:02.38 | Killmore | there's a nice bug with the mini gauntlet event from the eagle |
| 18:02.51 | Killmore | did you guys know it ? |
| 18:03.10 | Xinhuan | not sure, maybe yes, maybe no, depending on what bug it is |
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| 18:03.39 | Killmore | use a rogue to aggro the guards that come from behind and vanish |
| 18:03.54 | Killmore | making no birds and no guards from behind come again |
| 18:04.02 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 18:04.20 | Killmore | you just have to kill the 4 packs of 2 guards and thats it |
| 18:04.20 | Xinhuan | will try that next clear |
| 18:04.31 | Xinhuan | so using it on first pack will work? |
| 18:04.46 | Killmore | even the last guy in the stair dispawn |
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| 18:06.58 | [dRaCo] | ~pil |
| 18:06.59 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:07.08 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r56900 10Postal/Locales/koKR.lua: |
| 18:07.08 | CIA-12 | Postal: |
| 18:07.08 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 18:08.19 | Fisker- | lol wtf? |
| 18:08.27 | Bibi | Fisker- |
| 18:08.29 | Bibi | fix my pitbull UF ! |
| 18:08.30 | Bibi | now ! |
| 18:08.32 | Fisker- | no |
| 18:08.45 | Bibi | :( |
| 18:08.49 | Fisker- | our mage crafter was out of range of a nether vortex |
| 18:08.53 | Fisker- | because of a gM |
| 18:08.55 | Fisker- | GM |
| 18:09.03 | Fisker- | and another member took it for his item |
| 18:09.04 | Bibi | I don't care |
| 18:09.14 | Bibi | I just want to get rid of the autofade on pitbull |
| 18:09.15 | Fisker- | :O |
| 18:09.18 | Fisker- | BUT! |
| 18:09.28 | Fisker- | our mage just got a nether vortex from the GM |
| 18:09.32 | CIA-12 | 03drool * r56901 10gfxToggle2/ (. gfxToggle2.toc libs/): |
| 18:09.32 | CIA-12 | gfxToggle2: |
| 18:09.32 | CIA-12 | - re-jiggle externals and update TOC's metathingumjigs |
| 18:09.38 | Fisker- | but they haven't taken the other |
| 18:09.42 | Ellipsis | Bibi, disable the module? o.O |
| 18:10.24 | Xinhuan | i'm lost fisker |
| 18:10.25 | Bibi | oh I see, you think you're smarter than me ? |
| 18:10.34 | Bibi | that's it ? the french guy must be stupid ? |
| 18:10.36 | Ellipsis | yessir |
| 18:10.38 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 18:10.40 | Bibi | then you're right. :/ |
| 18:10.59 | Killmore | haha "the french guy" :P |
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| 18:11.30 | Ellipsis | <3 Bibi |
| 18:12.04 | Fisker- | wut Xinhuan? |
| 18:12.15 | Xinhuan | your nether story is confusing |
| 18:12.33 | Fisker- | why? |
| 18:12.41 | Bibi | (thanks Ellipsis btw ^^) |
| 18:13.23 | Xinhuan | "our mage crafter"... "another member"... "our mage", "they haven't"... who??? lol |
| 18:13.41 | Xinhuan | it sounds like 10 different people |
| 18:14.28 | thul | http://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/art/Moonrise-71952131 |
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| 18:23.01 | Civrock | Hmm, wowace down? |
| 18:23.26 | Fisker- | no Xinhuan |
| 18:23.28 | Fisker- | 2 members :I |
| 18:23.35 | Fisker- | also NO U |
| 18:23.43 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 18:23.57 | Xinhuan | are you the mage? |
| 18:24.25 | Fisker- | no |
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| 18:35.48 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r56902 10OptiTaunt/: |
| 18:35.48 | CIA-12 | OptiTaunt: |
| 18:35.48 | CIA-12 | - changed svn:externals |
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| 18:36.42 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 18:36.53 | Josh_Borke | hello |
| 18:37.08 | Fisker- | HAHAHAHA |
| 18:37.12 | Fisker- | instance servers crashed |
| 18:37.21 | Fisker- | and someone didn't manage to pick up their loot |
| 18:37.33 | cncfanatics | :o, big deal, what instance & what boss ? |
| 18:38.40 | Fisker- | trash loot :P |
| 18:39.51 | cncfanatics | what instance ? |
| 18:40.03 | Xinhuan | its ssc |
| 18:40.45 | Fisker- | nah |
| 18:40.46 | Fisker- | TK |
| 18:41.01 | cncfanatics | big deal |
| 18:41.03 | cncfanatics | it'll drop again |
| 18:41.05 | Fisker- | atleast we get a double up on marks |
| 18:41.05 | Fisker- | >D |
| 18:41.07 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:41.19 | [dRaCo] | so this msbtcd thingy uses tables like MSBTC_GROUPS = {["Arcane/Aimed Shot"] = {[1] = "Arcane Shot",[2] = "Aimed Shot",},},... how would I access those values? tried iterating them with for k,v in pairs(MSBTC_GROUPS), but that somehow doesnt work |
| 18:42.38 | Xinhuan | MSBTC_GROUPS["Arcane/Aimed Shot"][1] |
| 18:42.46 | Xinhuan | would be "Arcane Shot" |
| 18:42.52 | Josh_Borke | for group, entries in pairs(MSBTC_GROUPS) do for index, entry in pairs(entries) do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.format("Group %s: %s", tostring(group), tostring(entry))) end end |
| 18:43.37 | [dRaCo] | k, thanks =) |
| 18:43.37 | Xinhuan | table within table |
| 18:43.49 | Xinhuan | so if you want to iterate, you have to do it 2 layers deep |
| 18:44.10 | [dRaCo] | he, not my code... tbh, I dont know anything about lua |
| 18:44.17 | [dRaCo] | just trying to fix this addon |
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| 18:47.14 | sancus_ | I have a question regarding DogTag-1.0 strings, I can't seem to add spaces into any DogTag string, nothing works, not Text( ), not Append( ) or Prepend, etc. Text( test ) allows one space on each side, but further spaces seem to be completely ignored. |
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| 18:48.01 | Xinhuan | try \032 ? |
| 18:48.16 | RaydenU | "Yeah. But the Armory knows when our servers are asking for information, and it gives us extra information." <-- FigurePrints |
| 18:48.41 | dylanm | Crazy. |
| 18:48.49 | Xinhuan | "\032" is the escape code for spaces, but dogtag prob trims it, dunno, worth a shot |
| 18:48.54 | dylanm | Find out what headers they use :p |
| 18:49.01 | RaydenU | heh |
| 18:49.20 | RaydenU | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/12/wow-insider-interviews-ed-fries-founder-of-figureprints/ |
| 18:49.21 | RaydenU | source |
| 18:49.44 | sancus_ | Xinhuan: It just spits out a literal \032, heh |
| 18:49.57 | Xinhuan | what about \32 |
| 18:50.14 | sancus_ | same thing |
| 18:50.18 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 18:50.40 | NivFreak | Killmore: I fear when that eagle boss bug gets fixed |
| 18:50.51 | NivFreak | (I'm catching up) |
| 18:51.07 | NivFreak | 2 of our raid groups never did it without that bug |
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| 18:52.13 | nevcairiel | what bug on the eagle boss? |
| 18:54.01 | NivFreak | despawning all of the waves of trash |
| 18:54.06 | Saladin | Oh? |
| 18:54.16 | Saladin | Link to information :P |
| 18:54.19 | nevcairiel | the trash isnt even hard |
| 18:54.45 | kenlyric | can I put a wireless keyboard in the dishwasher? |
| 18:54.46 | NivFreak | if your DPS sucks |
| 18:54.47 | NivFreak | it's hard |
| 18:55.03 | NivFreak | kenlyric: I would not |
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| 18:55.11 | buu | Eagle boss trash is awesome when the Tempest dowsn't spawn |
| 18:55.18 | sb | NivFreak: how? :) |
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| 18:56.32 | RaydenU | this is lame |
| 18:56.41 | RaydenU | you know how on the armory it tells you where gear came from? |
| 18:56.55 | RaydenU | what dungeon if it's a dungeon drop |
| 18:57.05 | RaydenU | well stuff you get fromt he chess event in KZ is labeled "Chest Drpo" |
| 18:57.07 | RaydenU | drop |
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| 18:59.44 | Xinhuan | there's only 1 chest in there |
| 19:01.23 | RaydenU | yeah but it doesn't mention KZ |
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| 19:04.15 | xyu | you click on it |
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| 19:09.06 | Galka | join #rock |
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| 19:09.21 | Galka | oops |
| 19:09.51 | ramoz | is there any other epics which is labled Chest Drop? |
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| 19:11.19 | Xion` | that MC dude perhaps |
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| 19:13.24 | Killmore | NivFreak: they fix the bug ? |
| 19:13.32 | NivFreak | no idea |
| 19:13.41 | NivFreak | I doubt it |
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| 19:27.11 | NightHawkAtWork | http://campussqueeze.com/static/20-ugliest-colleges-in-the-USA.html |
| 19:27.27 | stavmar | hey Xinhuan the banklist mod affects my blizz bag, like they are all jacked up, I use moveable bags as well, is there a conflict, or am I not allowed to use the regular blizz bags? |
| 19:27.29 | Jaxon | Are you still able to dispel soul link? |
| 19:27.38 | NightHawkAtWork | I find it vaguely amusing that like 5 of the colleges on that list are in new york. |
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| 19:30.57 | EvilJohn | heh |
| 19:30.58 | EvilJohn | legoland |
| 19:31.06 | EvilJohn | that's what they used to call the dorms at UB |
| 19:32.42 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 19:32.47 | Antiarc | So, there's a bug with Shadowstep |
| 19:32.53 | Antiarc | It lets you teleport anywhere in the world |
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| 19:33.16 | EvilJohn | ... |
| 19:33.16 | Lukian | NightHawkAtWork, nice list |
| 19:33.18 | EvilJohn | how |
| 19:33.21 | Killmore | Antiarc: how ? |
| 19:33.23 | Lukian | do they have the 20 best looking? |
| 19:33.26 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3389609969&sid=1 |
| 19:33.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Lukian: i believe the article links to a previous one about the 20 most beautiful, so... :P |
| 19:34.14 | Lukian | NightHawkAtWork, ah cheers :D |
| 19:35.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: yeah, a rogue in my guild used (maybe still uses) that to get into Tempest Keep instances without a flying mount |
| 19:37.17 | Ellipsis | ell oh ell |
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| 19:44.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 19:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | explain this to me: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1739394019&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 19:45.35 | alext | ? |
| 19:45.50 | alext | Antiarc: the top post says <exploit removed> |
| 19:45.55 | alext | did that just happen or ... ? |
| 19:46.14 | alext | i guess the rest of the post kinda gives it away |
| 19:46.20 | alext | you keep shadowstepping people all the way up to there? |
| 19:46.30 | Antiarc | No |
| 19:46.36 | Antiarc | You just /focus something shadowsteppable in range |
| 19:46.45 | Antiarc | Then you target something at your destination, like a party member |
| 19:47.01 | Antiarc | Then /cast [target=focus] Shadowstep and it does the range check against your focus and warps to your target. |
| 19:47.04 | alext | oh wow |
| 19:47.12 | alext | thats crazy lol |
| 19:47.12 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I would if I could reproduce it |
| 19:47.46 | Ellipsis | I have all kinds of hunches but without access to a system where it actually works I can't really figure it out :P |
| 19:47.47 | NeoTron | 1anthat is pretty hack |
| 19:48.05 | NeoTron | http://files.filefront.com/shadowstepavi/;9243214;/fileinfo.html |
| 19:48.51 | KarlThePagan | also works with intercept / charge / intervene |
| 19:48.58 | KarlThePagan | maybe not charge |
| 19:49.55 | KarlThePagan | but you need proper pathing for those... so it won't be as impressive as that link |
| 19:50.07 | KarlThePagan | BAMPH |
| 19:50.22 | NeoTron | interesting targeting bugs |
| 19:50.33 | NeoTron | you can intervene across zones? |
| 19:50.40 | Kalman| | If you can get a path. |
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| 19:53.00 | KarlThePagan | i wonder if you could crash your wow client if the path was long enough |
| 19:53.34 | KarlThePagan | should try interveneing someone in darkshore from south barrens and see what happens |
| 19:53.43 | Fisker- | lol |
| 19:53.43 | Fisker- | Zootfizzle |
| 19:54.16 | Tornhoof | you can intervene from outland to kalimdor afaik |
| 19:54.38 | KarlThePagan | I would have to see that |
| 19:54.56 | Tornhoof | atleast they wrote that in their bug report blue post |
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| 20:05.25 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:05.25 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 20:05.26 | cncfanatics | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1739394019&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 20:05.29 | cncfanatics | wth ? |
| 20:06.19 | alext | yah |
| 20:06.21 | alext | that works for my bud |
| 20:06.23 | alext | but doesnt work for me |
| 20:06.26 | alext | your mileage may vary |
| 20:06.36 | Fisker- | O L D cncfanatics |
| 20:06.41 | Fisker- | also doesn\t work |
| 20:08.55 | Killmore | the shadowstep bug doesnt work if you need to "load" a new zone |
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| 20:12.54 | NeoTron | I've found that my WoW peformance is a lot better if I play elvis songs on my stereo |
| 20:13.12 | NeoTron | it works and can be yours for only 10 easy payments of $99.99 |
| 20:13.18 | NeoTron | wtf kind of a post is that anyway |
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| 20:13.27 | NeoTron | it's like "raid leader name decides the loot drops" |
| 20:13.39 | NeoTron | wave a dead chicken over the keyboard! |
| 20:14.43 | NeoTron | sounds more like" I started wow once, quit, started WMP and then restarted wow" |
| 20:14.53 | NeoTron | which is "I loaded lots of data into the disk cache"... |
| 20:17.03 | Xuerian | Antiarc: So you could warp halfway across the zone? |
| 20:17.09 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 20:17.20 | Xuerian | I always miss teh fun exploits :( |
| 20:17.52 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, we've had the whole discussion. Yes, running WMP DOES boost load times for most people |
| 20:17.58 | Xuerian | Goodness knows why |
| 20:20.47 | Killmore | Antiarc: it doesnt work from terokkar to shadowmoon, doesnt work |
| 20:20.54 | NeoTron | Xuerian: and people really tried this by rebooting, starting WoW once, then rebooting, starting wpn and then wow again? |
| 20:21.00 | Killmore | what is the range of this uber l33t bug ? |
| 20:21.01 | NeoTron | rather than starting wow, exiting, staring wmp, starting wow? |
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| 20:21.21 | Antiarc | It has something to do with how Windows schedules CPU for multimedia tasks. |
| 20:21.32 | Xuerian | NeoTron: it's ms hax |
| 20:21.36 | cncfanatics | and how does it Antiarc ? |
| 20:21.51 | cncfanatics | I'm really serious at how CRAP they made it if that can even work |
| 20:21.52 | Antiarc | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms684247.aspx |
| 20:22.10 | Xuerian | I'm surprised any of you are surprised |
| 20:22.12 | Xuerian | O_o |
| 20:22.12 | Antiarc | Something about starting WMP kicks it into high-performance multimedia mode. |
| 20:22.23 | cncfanatics | what crap is that ? |
| 20:22.32 | cncfanatics | it should ALWAYS be in high performance multimedia mode if that even exists |
| 20:22.40 | cncfanatics | why would you not want high perf ? |
| 20:23.03 | FtH|Daemona | thats the same as the TCP_Delay and AckSend settings that are bullshitted by blizz |
| 20:23.09 | alext | its microsoft, microsoft multimedia products running on a microsoft OS can probably leverage more of the OS and hardware's multimedia features then other companies |
| 20:23.13 | FtH|Daemona | and why oceania has 500ms latency |
| 20:23.17 | nevcairiel | its not bullshited |
| 20:23.20 | alext | just becaise its all in-house |
| 20:23.23 | alext | because |
| 20:23.37 | cncfanatics | FtH|Daemona: explain ? |
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| 20:23.43 | FtH|Daemona | sec |
| 20:23.46 | nevcairiel | with tcp its always a decision between latency and throughput |
| 20:23.56 | nevcairiel | but claling it bullshit seems to me like having no idea :P |
| 20:24.18 | FtH|Daemona | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t17761-server_locations_latency_australia/ |
| 20:24.49 | FtH|Daemona | yeah but setting a 7kb/s connection for throughput and not latency I S bullshit nevc |
| 20:25.11 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85-127-130-163.static.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 20:25.19 | nevcairiel | its not |
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| 20:26.11 | FtH|Daemona | sure it is if its the differenz between 500ms and 250ms |
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| 20:26.22 | nevcairiel | yeah for 10% of their users |
| 20:26.40 | nevcairiel | all other benefit from not having nodelay se |
| 20:26.55 | FtH|Daemona | yeah and the other 90% wouldnt have any disadvantage, even those would getter latency |
| 20:27.16 | FtH|Daemona | but for those with 500ms WoW would become enjoyable. |
| 20:29.18 | nevcairiel | disabling the nagle buffer algorithm is basicly a hack to the tcp spec and shouldnt be done by default imho. not sure why they didnt use datagram, but i guess packet loss is even worse |
| 20:29.36 | CIA-12 | 03jncl * r56904 10Skinner/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:29.36 | CIA-12 | Skinner: Skinned Mirror, MSBTOptions & TipTac |
| 20:29.36 | CIA-12 | - Updated Ash_DoTimer & EnhancedStackSplit skins |
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| 20:30.56 | NeoTron | reportedly http://www.fileplanet.com/174303/170000/fileinfo/Srcdsfpsboost.exe-for-PHL-Server-Guide will do the same as runnign WMP.. |
| 20:32.51 | kergoth | NeoTron: nice, will have to try that |
| 20:33.04 | Aeyan | Damn skinner updates... |
| 20:33.33 | xyu | i don't understand this WMP thing. what happens? you run WMP in the background and you get better WoW fps? is that the theory? |
| 20:33.55 | NeoTron | it changes the high resolution multimedia timers from 10 ms to 1 ms |
| 20:34.01 | NeoTron | which means a 3 ms wait is 3 ms, not 10 |
| 20:34.04 | NeoTron | that's all |
| 20:34.14 | NeoTron | from what I understand |
| 20:35.02 | Aeyan | I wonder if winamp or mpc has the same effect |
| 20:35.33 | cncfanatics | yay, 350 lockpicking ;o |
| 20:36.02 | Aeyan | Huzzah |
| 20:36.15 | Preystalker | grats |
| 20:37.03 | Preystalker | my warrior just hit 60 so time to go back and get mining up from the 170 it is at now... |
| 20:38.06 | xyu | does the WMP trick only work when running servers? |
| 20:38.11 | xyu | or does it help client side FPS? |
| 20:40.08 | Killmore | omg it works in WSG when you have the flag :P |
| 20:42.51 | FtH|Daemona | shadowstep? sure it does |
| 20:43.12 | FtH|Daemona | you better open a ticket now that you found a bug, as there is a bluepost that marks it as exploit already ;) |
| 20:45.42 | buu | On a related note, we're looking into fixing some issues with summoning that would once again enable us to allow warlocks to summon people into an instance from anywhere in the world. This could happen as soon as the next big content patch (2.4.0) if all of the technical issues can be resolved by then. |
| 20:45.47 | buu | Zomg! |
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| 20:46.36 | Fisker- | sigh |
| 20:46.40 | Fisker- | I WANNA KILL N00BS |
| 20:46.42 | Fisker- | PLEASE LET ME |
| 20:47.39 | kebinusan | if you use the compress bag thign in baggins while dead it just loops througha bunch trying to compress stuff |
| 20:48.23 | stavmar | Xinhuan: does the tooltip information include guild bank items in the tally using bankitems? |
| 20:55.43 | Pkekyo| | do you have to be lvl 70 to have an arenateam? |
| 20:55.47 | kebinusan | yah |
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| 20:56.46 | Pkekyo| | damnit |
| 20:58.10 | NeoTron | I'll set up a wow tunnel via my linux box and see if I can get latency down |
| 20:58.24 | NeoTron | if this stuff all works i'll post a guide on my guild forum and get ppl's performance up |
| 20:58.26 | Killmore | fastest WSG ever |
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| 20:59.47 | NeoTron | buu: would be nice if summon actually once again was useful |
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| 21:01.32 | Fisker- | yay |
| 21:01.34 | Fisker- | finally solarian down |
| 21:02.04 | buu | NeoTron: It would be pretty win. |
| 21:03.46 | Paene | Is there something better than Gladiator for arena enemy frames? |
| 21:03.59 | kadrahil | might try Proximo |
| 21:04.04 | kadrahil | it's nice |
| 21:04.09 | ag` | yeah I think Proximo |
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| 21:04.18 | kadrahil | right clicking an enemy frame automatically sets them to your focus target |
| 21:04.19 | ag` | on SVN too and all that jazz |
| 21:04.33 | kadrahil | well by default at least |
| 21:04.35 | Paene | hey ag |
| 21:04.57 | Paene | not sure if you knew or not, but the hide party frames while in raid option doesn't work on the Ace3 branch |
| 21:05.35 | ag` | yep |
| 21:05.38 | ag` | it doesn't atm |
| 21:05.43 | Paene | kk, just making sure you knew :) |
| 21:05.57 | Josh_Borke | yea, you should fix that ag! |
| 21:06.01 | Paene | lol |
| 21:06.20 | NeoTron | buu: what is the source of that quote? |
| 21:07.01 | ag` | been busy the last couple of weeks |
| 21:07.06 | ag` | I'll get to it soon |
| 21:07.21 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke needs to l2code |
| 21:07.25 | kadrahil | and l2wow |
| 21:07.35 | kadrahil | :S |
| 21:07.47 | EvilJohn | NeoTron: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/3271076383.htm |
| 21:08.06 | kadrahil | sitting at freaking 372 JC |
| 21:08.24 | kadrahil | and i don't want to blow 500g on 3 more skyfires to cut ;( |
| 21:08.33 | Josh_Borke | anybody know of the website that ranks shadowpriests? |
| 21:08.41 | Josh_Borke | kadrahil: 1123 unbuffed shadow damage |
| 21:08.47 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: http://rankshadowpriestsandjoshborkesucks.com |
| 21:08.55 | Josh_Borke | kadrahil: i hate you |
| 21:09.09 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: :( |
| 21:09.12 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: <3 |
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| 21:09.19 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: also, good :) |
| 21:09.30 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: i need like 200 more attack power :( i have too much crit |
| 21:09.33 | kadrahil | for my AP |
| 21:09.45 | kadrahil | !c us stormreaver kadrahil |
| 21:09.48 | ThraeBot | kadrahil: Kadrahil, Level 70 Blood Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 8784 HP; 6688 Mana; 113 mana regen; 34 mp5; 6011 Armour; 1500 AP; 225.600 Melee DPS; 21.09% melee crit; 121 melee hit; 1604 RAP; 342.60 Ranged DPS; 27.35% ranged crit; 121 ranged hit; 20.07% dodge; 33 resilience;[[ TBR: 1108 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dkq3m ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o7umy ][ Updated: Wed Dec 12 16:11:37 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:10.16 | kadrahil | Armour! silly brits |
| 21:14.02 | *** join/#wowace EvilJohn (n=eviljohn@67.110.71.24.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 21:14.25 | Josh_Borke | !c us stormreaver dagh |
| 21:14.28 | ThraeBot | Josh_Borke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 6541 HP; 7665 Mana; 155 mana regen; 60 mp5; 136 spell crit; 86 spell hit; 896 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (1075); 230 shadow dmg (1126); 4.82% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1366 ][ Link: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=stormreaver&n=dagh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Wed Dec 12 16:16:16 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:15.44 | NeoTron | EvilJohn: thanks. coming from Tigole, it means it'll happen sometime. nice |
| 21:16.14 | ag` | !c eu kazzak giustiniano |
| 21:16.16 | ThraeBot | ag`: Giustiniano, Level 70 Human Priest (18/0/43). 11371 HP; 9090 Mana; 135 mana regen; 40 mp5; 41 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 778 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (832); 54 shadow dmg (832); 4.98% dodge; 426 resilience;[[ TBR: 1263 ][ Link: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=kazzak&n=giustiniano ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2m8pd8 ][ Updated: Wed Dec 12 16:18:04 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:16.17 | EvilJohn | I just would like to know when they were planning on letting us, the customer, know |
| 21:16.49 | NeoTron | EvilJohn: today it seems |
| 21:16.56 | EvilJohn | yeah |
| 21:17.11 | NeoTron | so last night we raided with a ret pally. I also had ele shammy and boomkin in my group |
| 21:17.14 | NeoTron | that's pretty rad |
| 21:17.17 | NeoTron | up to 11% extra crit |
| 21:19.50 | kadrahil | we don't have a ret pally in the guild |
| 21:20.06 | kadrahil | i should level mine to 70 and be our ret pally o_o |
| 21:20.15 | RaydenU | http://priestlyendeavors.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/brilliance-from-the-comments/ |
| 21:20.29 | RaydenU | so could you just macro your tank dmg spell to mark as skull as well? |
| 21:20.33 | RaydenU | so whatever you attack gets marked? |
| 21:21.10 | NivFreak | that would be painful for multimob tanking |
| 21:21.10 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:21.31 | NivFreak | I just use f6-f12 as marking keyes |
| 21:21.35 | NivFreak | f12 is my focus target |
| 21:21.39 | NivFreak | hit it once as I engage |
| 21:21.45 | cladhaire | is Omnibus available anywhere other than files.wowace.com? |
| 21:21.48 | thul | hmm, i cant even reach f6-f12 |
| 21:21.56 | NivFreak | use your right hand |
| 21:22.01 | NivFreak | and tab target |
| 21:22.04 | many | Oo |
| 21:22.07 | Aeyan | I've got skull bound to a key for large pulls |
| 21:22.10 | NeoTron | I have symbols set to Alt-a,s,d,f,g |
| 21:22.15 | Aeyan | Generally just use the other stuff for offtanks or CC |
| 21:22.23 | NivFreak | yep |
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| 21:22.30 | NivFreak | it's quiet fast |
| 21:22.33 | NivFreak | quite |
| 21:22.45 | NivFreak | and you just learn to make a habit of it |
| 21:22.47 | RaydenU | f12 is far away |
| 21:22.52 | RaydenU | maybe use ~ for mark skull |
| 21:22.59 | NivFreak | ~ is my interrupt |
| 21:23.00 | NivFreak | but sure |
| 21:23.00 | RaydenU | i'm using that for my wand now |
| 21:23.01 | NivFreak | whatever works |
| 21:23.09 | RaydenU | i tend to use 4 for my interrupty spell |
| 21:23.14 | RaydenU | gouge |
| 21:23.29 | Aeyan | cladhaire, I don't believe so |
| 21:23.38 | cladhaire | well, then its likely not getting covered in the book |
| 21:23.44 | cladhaire | :P |
| 21:23.48 | Aeyan | Book? |
| 21:23.49 | NivFreak | 1 is dismount/start attack, 2 is heroic strike, 3 is shield slam, 4 is devastate, 5 is SB/Revenge |
| 21:23.51 | Aeyan | Writing another? |
| 21:23.53 | NivFreak | for me |
| 21:23.55 | cladhaire | ~wowprogramming |
| 21:23.55 | purl | wowprogramming is, like, World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 21:23.57 | cladhaire | Aeyan: done writing |
| 21:23.58 | cladhaire | editing. |
| 21:24.01 | Aeyan | Ah |
| 21:24.18 | Aeyan | ~ is my wand/ranged attack key |
| 21:24.39 | Aeyan | F is usually some major class ability, V for interrupts |
| 21:24.54 | Aeyan | You sort of form habits after a while |
| 21:24.54 | NivFreak | I use T for mouse over devastates |
| 21:24.55 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:25.01 | NivFreak | q for shield block by itself |
| 21:25.03 | NivFreak | that's about it |
| 21:25.11 | cncfanatics | cladhaire ! |
| 21:25.14 | cncfanatics | how's the book going ? |
| 21:25.19 | NivFreak | I like working off/around the numkeys |
| 21:25.22 | cladhaire | good, just finished the api |
| 21:25.25 | cladhaire | workign on editing |
| 21:29.53 | Pkekyo| | tonight's zeropunctiation is one of zeh best EVARR |
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| 21:33.52 | kadrahil | evl\Blend: does it blend? |
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| 21:34.35 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/346/7/b/Kveldslys_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 21:35.26 | Pkekyo| | thul: what optics did you use? |
| 21:35.43 | thul | sigma 70-200 2.8 |
| 21:35.46 | thul | at about f/8 |
| 21:35.49 | thul | hmm, or no |
| 21:35.52 | thul | that is the 12-24 tokina |
| 21:35.54 | thul | at f8 |
| 21:35.54 | thul | ofcourse |
| 21:35.58 | thul | that was the wide angle shot :-D |
| 21:36.04 | Pkekyo| | fisheye? |
| 21:36.41 | Pkekyo| | can't afford to buy new optics for my camera...the next step up on zoom optics are like 20-30k |
| 21:36.44 | Pkekyo| | :< |
| 21:37.48 | Pkekyo| | btw: is it clouds or smog? |
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| 21:47.15 | CIA-12 | 03darravis * r56905 10SmartyCatManaBar/SmartyCatManaBar.lua: |
| 21:47.15 | CIA-12 | SmartyCatManaBar: |
| 21:47.15 | CIA-12 | -The frame position will now reset when the profile is reset |
| 21:48.13 | Pkekyo| | yay, one of my photos won a local 'contest' :p |
| 21:49.56 | Yamanipanuchi | Thul: Where's that picture from? |
| 21:54.25 | kenlyric | a "contest" |
| 21:54.43 | kenlyric | 100% real "beef" |
| 21:55.03 | NightHawkAtWork | as opposed to 100% "real" beef? |
| 21:55.26 | xyu | or "100%" real beef ?!?!? |
| 21:55.29 | xyu | oh the possibilities |
| 21:55.50 | NightHawkAtWork | or 100% your "mom" |
| 21:57.51 | thul | Yamanipanuchi: oslo |
| 21:57.58 | thul | Pkekyo|: smog.. :/ |
| 22:00.05 | Ozguli | ok what do you think about this... |
| 22:00.06 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/gnome.jpg |
| 22:01.32 | Yamanipanuchi | thul: Where's that? im just curios, but mostly because its a great picture. :) |
| 22:01.40 | Ozguli | most people avoided the mailbox for some reason |
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| 22:03.34 | thul | Yamanipanuchi: Oslo, the capitol in Norway :-D the view out my window:P thanks! |
| 22:04.14 | Yamanipanuchi | thul: Nice! |
| 22:04.24 | thul | thanks again :-) |
| 22:08.38 | *** part/#wowace emagdnim (n=mindgame@217.54.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 22:10.16 | Ozguli | eww guildcalendar sucks |
| 22:10.27 | buu | Well this is cool. |
| 22:10.51 | Ozguli | does it even have commands? |
| 22:11.11 | buu | I can now very accurately determine which class people are.. |
| 22:11.16 | buu | Wins! |
| 22:11.25 | Ozguli | buu how? |
| 22:11.39 | Droolio | hrmm my WAU has lines crossed through many of my addons, any idea what's up with that? |
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| 22:11.41 | Ozguli | tell me what class I am |
| 22:12.12 | Aeyan | It means their tocs aren't up to date with the current patch and you don't have Load Out of Date Addons checked in your WoW addons window |
| 22:12.16 | xyu | you're a shaman |
| 22:12.37 | Ozguli | you're not buu |
| 22:12.54 | Ozguli | tell me why I would be a shaman anyway |
| 22:12.59 | Droolio | Aeyan: ah it reads the wow config for that? hmm, i did just reset my config... |
| 22:13.02 | xyu | your name screams shaman |
| 22:13.05 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 22:13.09 | Ozguli | gaah |
| 22:13.17 | Ozguli | I'd be OBo but it's already in use |
| 22:13.26 | Ozguli | because that's how my RL name looks like on paper |
| 22:13.41 | Droolio | i normally have the option ticked but had to do some debugging. will switch it back on, cheers... |
| 22:14.06 | Droolio | there we go |
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| 22:18.55 | Josh_Borke | spells that affect your entire party, go! |
| 22:20.08 | xyu | Prayer of Healing |
| 22:20.10 | xyu | do i win ? |
| 22:20.22 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 22:20.23 | kadrahil | concentration aura |
| 22:20.25 | xyu | Fireball? |
| 22:20.25 | Josh_Borke | you missed tranquility |
| 22:20.28 | xyu | Doh |
| 22:20.35 | Josh_Borke | but i can't think of any others |
| 22:20.37 | kadrahil | <insert name> aura? |
| 22:20.48 | Josh_Borke | perhasp i should specify |
| 22:20.56 | Josh_Borke | casted spells that affect your entire party, go! |
| 22:21.00 | xyu | the question is, are auras spells? |
| 22:21.02 | kadrahil | spells that make Josh_Borke not suck at wow, go! |
| 22:21.15 | Josh_Borke | #error, cannot compute |
| 22:21.29 | xyu | I've got one. |
| 22:21.37 | xyu | Curse that randomly lowers 1 skill by 100, go! |
| 22:21.47 | Josh_Borke | aspect of the pack |
| 22:21.53 | kadrahil | aspect of the daze |
| 22:21.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Josh_Borke: define entire party? define casted spell? |
| 22:22.09 | NightHawkAtWork | any totem, any pally aura, any group buff spell |
| 22:22.18 | Josh_Borke | NightHawkAtWork: casted being with a cast time |
| 22:22.28 | xyu | nope, i forget the curses name, but it's from SFK |
| 22:22.32 | xyu | and it's a very fun curse :D |
| 22:22.33 | NightHawkAtWork | instant is a cast time :P |
| 22:22.51 | Sixtysyxx | Forsaken Skills I think it's called |
| 22:23.10 | xyu | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Forsaken#uncategorized-spells |
| 22:23.11 | xyu | yep |
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| 22:24.50 | NightHawkAtWork | Josh_Borke: not to mention bloodlust, chain heal, circle of healing, mass dispel, battle shout... |
| 22:25.01 | xyu | Sixtysyxx: how on earth did you remember that? :D |
| 22:25.11 | NightHawkAtWork | xyu: too many sfk runs ;) |
| 22:26.53 | kadrahil | so my gf picked up guild wars for us because a friend of hers plays it |
| 22:27.38 | xyu | i played the beta and had fun. it's the Quakeworld of MMOs. didn't play it live cuz i didn't know anyone in it :( |
| 22:28.03 | kadrahil | yeah, i'm not sure what to think about it |
| 22:28.20 | kadrahil | it's a lot different and is hard to get used to after playing nothing but wow |
| 22:28.48 | xyu | any new game will feel that way. everything released for a long time from now will be compared to WoW :/ |
| 22:28.53 | xyu | luckily i played it before wow :P |
| 22:28.59 | kadrahil | true |
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| 22:31.11 | xyu | i completed my furies deck 1 day after the faire /QQ |
| 22:31.39 | kadrahil | wait until next month ;( |
| 22:32.02 | kadrahil | i might collect the storms deck after i farm for my epic |
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| 22:33.06 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSoecK3u65Q |
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| 22:37.12 | Kody- | http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/32209-wow-guild-banks.html |
| 22:38.52 | Sixtysyxx | lol nice Guild bank bug. >< |
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| 22:42.49 | Pkekyo| | best bug ever tbh |
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| 22:50.33 | hypetech | I have a tank in my guild that keeps getting accused of taunting off of our other tanks during raids but denies it, and the times when I do go to look for it, I don't see it happen. Is there a mod anywhere that will inform me when any warrior taunts? I don't see it in my combat log, so I can't parse it that way :( |
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| 22:51.06 | Riedel | hi all |
| 22:51.40 | Riedel | is there anybody alive here? |
| 22:51.47 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 22:51.47 | Josh_Borke | hello |
| 22:51.55 | Riedel | oh thx god =)) |
| 22:52.19 | Riedel | may i ask a little newbie question? |
| 22:52.29 | Josh_Borke | ~asktoask |
| 22:52.29 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 22:52.30 | Josh_Borke | ;-) |
| 22:52.42 | Riedel | =) |
| 22:52.43 | Riedel | so |
| 22:52.50 | Riedel | the question: |
| 22:52.58 | hypetech | or does anybody know the function for when a tank taunts maybe? |
| 22:53.12 | Riedel | how do i download a file from the wowace forum? |
| 22:53.14 | Josh_Borke | hypetech: castspell(taunt)? |
| 22:53.22 | Josh_Borke | Riedel: obtain an account on the forums |
| 22:53.29 | Riedel | ok |
| 22:53.36 | Riedel | its that eady |
| 22:53.41 | Riedel | *easy |
| 22:53.46 | Riedel | thx |
| 22:54.01 | hypetech | Josh_Borke: ? |
| 22:54.09 | Riedel | ive thought it should be smth like that |
| 22:54.27 | hypetech | I meant in the API so I could try to write a mod that will watch for it |
| 22:54.31 | Josh_Borke | hypetech: i missed your original question, one second |
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| 22:55.53 | hypetech | Is there any situation where a warrior would taunt and the debuff would not appear on the target? Debuff limit is not an issue |
| 22:56.23 | Josh_Borke | hypetech: sure, local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(f, event, unit, spell, target) if spell == "Taunt" then ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(unit).." taunted!") end end) f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_SPELLCAST_START") |
| 22:57.45 | hypetech | will that only show for my current target or any target? and where does it output? |
| 22:58.20 | hypetech | ah nvm, I see the output |
| 22:58.43 | hypetech | okay, so that would only be my current target I think |
| 22:58.44 | hypetech | hmm |
| 22:59.32 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r56906 10GridAutoFrameSize/ (. GridAutoFrameSize.toc GridAutoFrameSizeLocal-koKR.lua): GridAutoFrameSize : add locals koKR |
| 23:04.02 | xyu | Does your team rating have to be 1850 in order to buy the weapons or is that next patch? |
| 23:04.18 | Killmore | both |
| 23:04.22 | xyu | right now? |
| 23:04.25 | xyu | or next patch |
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| 23:05.17 | Hjalte | You need to have a personal rating of 1850 to buy weapons, xyu. |
| 23:05.22 | xyu | yes, i know |
| 23:05.29 | xyu | but it was said recently that your team also needs the rating |
| 23:05.35 | xyu | and i'm curious if this has gone into effect |
| 23:06.01 | Hjalte | So you mean, that you played up to 1850 with the team, and then someone else played the team down below 1850? |
| 23:06.12 | xyu | yep |
| 23:06.39 | xyu | hypothetically |
| 23:09.23 | Hjalte | No idea, I'm quite sure the idea is however, that you need a personal rating of 1850 |
| 23:09.37 | xyu | yep, i know that much ^^ |
| 23:09.46 | xyu | but the team rating and personal rating are compeltely different things :D |
| 23:09.56 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1957986305 <-nice |
| 23:10.01 | Fisker- | i hope they don't get the mats refunded :D |
| 23:10.18 | hypetech | Josh_Borke: what libs do I need to include for that code you gave me? Do I need anything special for the RegisterEvent? |
| 23:10.50 | Josh_Borke | hypetech: no, it's stand alone |
| 23:11.11 | Jaxon | xyu: it went into effect with yesterday's maintainence. |
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| 23:11.23 | xyu | oki |
| 23:11.55 | Jaxon | And its to avoid people from tanking their team down to 1400 with alts then playing up from there. |
| 23:12.18 | xyu | yea |
| 23:12.54 | Josh_Borke | i don't want to have to categorize every spell :-( |
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| 23:13.21 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen Fearless? |
| 23:13.28 | Jaxon | Jet Li? |
| 23:13.29 | Jaxon | Yes. |
| 23:13.47 | buu | MAYBE. |
| 23:14.01 | Pkekyo| | it any good? |
| 23:14.14 | Jaxon | Yes, quite well done. |
| 23:14.15 | xyu | it's ok, its no swordsman II though ^^ |
| 23:14.30 | Pkekyo| | the beginning seems extremely dull, dunno if I should continue watching or not |
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| 23:15.55 | Pkekyo| | it's dubbed? meh, hate watching dubbed stuff:p |
| 23:17.52 | xyu | then your copy sucks |
| 23:18.06 | Pkekyo| | because it's dubbed? |
| 23:18.10 | xyu | yes |
| 23:18.18 | KarlThePagan | eThug subber 4 lyfe? |
| 23:18.30 | xyu | fo shizzle |
| 23:18.34 | xyu | dubs are bad mmkay |
| 23:18.43 | KarlThePagan | you know what |
| 23:18.45 | Pkekyo| | I hate subs |
| 23:18.45 | Pkekyo| | but not as much as I hate dubs |
| 23:19.16 | KarlThePagan | I have no desire to learn a foreign language so... sorry but I'll take an american actor's interpretation over the original |
| 23:19.40 | xyu | You don't need to learn the language, just learn to read |
| 23:19.45 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 23:20.12 | KarlThePagan | I don't exactly watch a Jet Li or something like GITS to stare at text :( |
| 23:20.24 | haste | japanese wouldn't be that problematic to learn if you drop the written part :p |
| 23:20.33 | Pkekyo| | true |
| 23:20.37 | Pkekyo| | I wanna learn mandarin tbh |
| 23:20.41 | xyu | then learn to ...hasten your reading....lololharharhrhek |
| 23:20.48 | xyu | afk |
| 23:20.49 | KarlThePagan | OMG LOGIC! |
| 23:20.56 | KarlThePagan | ~whalecrit xyu |
| 23:20.57 | purl | ACTION crits xyu with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. xyu dies |
| 23:21.19 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 23:21.24 | Pkekyo| | what's #NaN? |
| 23:21.29 | KarlThePagan | Not a Number |
| 23:21.34 | KarlThePagan | 1 / 0 |
| 23:21.56 | KarlThePagan | well depends on the system |
| 23:22.12 | KarlThePagan | sqrt(-1) |
| 23:22.25 | KarlThePagan | depends on language / implementation |
| 23:22.26 | Pkekyo| | layman's terms please? I sucka t maths :p |
| 23:22.34 | Killmore | it is possible with a macro to switch people from group in raid ? |
| 23:22.56 | KarlThePagan | you can't divide by zero or root a negative number... so computers have special notations for the result if they don't crash |
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| 23:23.25 | KarlThePagan | sometimes it's "Inf" aka infinity... sometimes it's "NaN" or not a number |
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| 23:23.52 | Pkekyo| | KarlThePagan: just learned the root negative numbers last week :p |
| 23:24.25 | Pkekyo| | KarlThePagan: so #NaN is the equivalent of "The equation has no solution"? |
| 23:24.29 | MentalPower | lua> 1/0 |
| 23:24.30 | lua_bot | MentalPower: inf |
| 23:24.38 | MentalPower | lua> math.sqrt(-1) |
| 23:24.38 | lua_bot | MentalPower: nan, |
| 23:25.00 | KarlThePagan | Pkekyo|, kinda |
| 23:25.17 | KarlThePagan | well not "no solution" just... no solution that can be expressed by this library |
| 23:25.44 | KarlThePagan | you could write a math library to express complex numbers, but most of them avoid it |
| 23:25.58 | Pkekyo| | well, I'm talking general maths...teacher told us to write "the equation has no solution" if the problem ended up in sqrt of a negative number |
| 23:26.32 | KarlThePagan | that's good enough for the problems you are doing I guess |
| 23:27.03 | KarlThePagan | hopefully they will teach you about "complex numbers" later on |
| 23:27.07 | Pkekyo| | yeah, it's college math :p |
| 23:27.16 | KarlThePagan | O.o |
| 23:27.19 | Pkekyo| | KarlThePagan: hopefully not, I suck at maths |
| 23:27.39 | Pkekyo| | well, not quite college...it equivalates a mix between american high school and college |
| 23:27.51 | Ellipsis | uh....you should probably know about complex numbers by that point |
| 23:27.52 | KarlThePagan | is this your last math course ever? |
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| 23:28.03 | KarlThePagan | because this is starting to make me feel seriously ill |
| 23:28.14 | Ellipsis | kids these days |
| 23:28.19 | Pkekyo| | KarlThePagan: don't know really...depends on if I'll study programming or not later on |
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| 23:28.52 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: well, I know exactly what you mean with 'complex numbers' (haven't learned maths in english :p) |
| 23:28.55 | KarlThePagan | my programming cirriculum made me do up to Calc 3... |
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| 23:29.22 | MentalPower | Pkekyo|: just cause an equation ends up with sqrt(-1) does not mean it does not have a solution |
| 23:29.26 | MentalPower | thats total BS |
| 23:29.34 | NightHawkAtWork | KarlThePagan: only calc 1-3? o_0 |
| 23:29.45 | buu | MentalPower: He was talking about computers. More specifically, programming languages. |
| 23:29.46 | KarlThePagan | NightHawkAtWork, and diffie-q, stat |
| 23:29.49 | Pkekyo| | MentalPower: well, that's what we're told for some reason |
| 23:29.52 | NightHawkAtWork | KarlThePagan: ahh, okay |
| 23:29.54 | buu | MentalPower: Most of which don't have complex numbers built in. |
| 23:30.08 | Aeyan | I took Calc 2-3 and Discrete Math and then switched my major to Political Science |
| 23:30.08 | MentalPower | buu: no, hes talking about his math course |
| 23:30.12 | KarlThePagan | NightHawkAtWork, and discrete math... but not discrete differential math... I think they should have gone into more specialized math like that |
| 23:30.13 | NightHawkAtWork | I didn't have to do diff eq, but i had calc 1-3, prob & stat, and discrete math 1/2 |
| 23:30.13 | Aeyan | Which requires only Business Math |
| 23:30.14 | Pkekyo| | buu: if refering to me, I'm talking general maths |
| 23:30.15 | buu | MentalPower: Oh. |
| 23:30.15 | Aeyan | Woo! |
| 23:30.19 | buu | Pkekyo|: YOU'RE DOOMED. |
| 23:30.20 | buu | THE END IS NEAR |
| 23:30.21 | MentalPower | <---Calc 1-4 + DifEQ |
| 23:30.32 | Ellipsis | I didn't even pass calc 1 \o/ |
| 23:30.42 | Pkekyo| | buu: hoping I won't need too much maths as a photographer or graphical designer |
| 23:30.43 | aestil | i've never taken geometry |
| 23:30.44 | buu | Ellipsis: Grats on failing. |
| 23:30.48 | Ellipsis | thanks buu |
| 23:30.55 | buu | Pkekyo|: You need maths for everything! |
| 23:30.57 | Ellipsis | it was actually quite a high point in my life |
| 23:31.00 | NightHawkAtWork | math is life |
| 23:31.00 | aestil | buu: gratz on your guild sucking. |
| 23:31.08 | Pkekyo| | buu: sure, but not ALL maths for everything |
| 23:31.09 | aestil | buu: wtb vashj kill. |
| 23:31.10 | KarlThePagan | ETHUG FIGHT! |
| 23:31.12 | aestil | buu: pst |
| 23:32.02 | Ellipsis | I totally almost would have passed discrete math, at least |
| 23:32.05 | Ellipsis | except that I didn't |
| 23:32.10 | Pkekyo| | anyone, someone share the definition of 'complex numbers' so I can understand wth that is in my native language :> |
| 23:32.14 | NightHawkAtWork | ~pat Ellipsis |
| 23:32.14 | purl | ACTION pats Ellipsis and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 23:32.21 | buu | aestil: Yeah nos hit. |
| 23:32.24 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: do you know of "i"? |
| 23:32.31 | Ellipsis | i = sqrt(-1) |
| 23:32.32 | buu | aestil: Everyone is all "WAAH I have to study for finals and go visit my parents and waah" |
| 23:32.34 | aestil | buu: we are number 3 now though. |
| 23:32.38 | buu | aestil: =[ =[ =[ |
| 23:32.41 | aestil | so apparently we fail too. |
| 23:32.49 | Aeyan | Discrete math sucked bad |
| 23:32.54 | buu | aestil: Fucking goddamn terribles argh. |
| 23:32.56 | Ellipsis | discrete math was fun |
| 23:32.57 | aestil | we just don't have the time to throw bodies at archimonde. |
| 23:32.57 | NightHawkAtWork | I liked discrete |
| 23:32.58 | buu | aestil: I'm so unhappy about it. |
| 23:33.09 | Ellipsis | not often you get a prof so obsessed with lisp |
| 23:33.09 | Aeyan | My professor was terrible and that can usually ruin a course |
| 23:33.13 | aestil | ruin killed him. gratz to them imo. we havn't really made more than 1 night of serious attempts. |
| 23:33.23 | Aeyan | Overall though, I'm happy I switched majors |
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| 23:33.35 | buu | aestil: Did IWS ever get in to hyjal? |
| 23:33.36 | aestil | i'd really like to kill him before vos kills illidian |
| 23:33.50 | aestil | buu: i'm not horde, i don't really keep up with them. |
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| 23:34.07 | KarlThePagan | Pkekyo|, http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ComplexNumber.html |
| 23:34.13 | KarlThePagan | that's the "whole story" |
| 23:34.15 | buu | aestil: That's really annoying. |
| 23:34.25 | aestil | buu: that i don't keep up with horde? |
| 23:34.30 | KarlThePagan | the easy answer is that the complex number "i" is equal to sqrt(-1) |
| 23:34.49 | buu | aestil: No, vox |
| 23:35.04 | aestil | wha? why? |
| 23:35.07 | aestil | they are pretty good guys. |
| 23:35.16 | CIA-12 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56907 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua locales/RaidCast-enUS.lua): RaidCast: i gotta say, group and aoe spells really make this addon harder |
| 23:35.16 | aestil | making reasonable progress. |
| 23:35.26 | Pkekyo | meh, we just recently started with equations^x /shrug |
| 23:35.40 | aestil | they started making 'progress' pretty late. |
| 23:35.41 | buu | aestil: Because we should be fucking killing things. |
| 23:35.48 | NightHawkAtWork | KarlThePagan: eh, to be more precise, i is imaginary, while a+bi as a whole is complex, but i guess thats splitting hairs |
| 23:35.53 | buu | aestil: Maybe I can go be leet someplace when wotlk comes out =/ |
| 23:36.04 | aestil | seriously, transfer your horde out. |
| 23:36.14 | aestil | and roll alliance, and play with me. |
| 23:36.25 | Pkekyo | but then again, maths aren't the major focus of Media and Communication studies nowadays :/ |
| 23:36.25 | Pkekyo | had three hours/week first year (11th year in school) and two hours/week the third year, and that's it.... |
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| 23:38.22 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: i is a complex number too, it just so happens that a = 0 and b = 1 :P |
| 23:38.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: now that's splitting hairs even more, but fair enough. ;) |
| 23:38.54 | Ellipsis | you started it! |
| 23:39.00 | NightHawkAtWork | indeed i did |
| 23:39.09 | NightHawkAtWork | alternately, i'll start you! |
| 23:39.40 | Ellipsis | only us geeks really care |
| 23:39.44 | Ellipsis | you can pretend they don't exist |
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| 23:40.07 | Pkekyo | well, can't really say I would need them as a photographer or graphical designer..? |
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| 23:40.38 | NightHawkAtWork | you don't really need to work with complex numbers in most fields. |
| 23:40.53 | Pkekyo | guess that's why I haven't heard of'em then |
| 23:41.04 | Pkekyo | prolly would've if I went for maths 2MY |
| 23:41.06 | NightHawkAtWork | nah, you havn't heard of them because you're uneducated ;) |
| 23:41.08 | Ellipsis | ok, firefox is just messing with me today |
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| 23:41.26 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib |
| 23:41.26 | CIA-12 | Localization improved |
| 23:41.27 | Ellipsis | it will only show image alt text in tooltips for a fraction of a second |
| 23:41.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Am I the only one here who covered complex numbers in high school? :P |
| 23:41.31 | Ellipsis | forcing me to view-source xkcd :( |
| 23:41.41 | Ellipsis | I covered them in middle school and high school |
| 23:42.00 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: not according to the curriculum, I'm not |
| 23:42.05 | aestil | i did about 6 weeks of algebra once. |
| 23:42.54 | dylanm | What are we talking about here? |
| 23:43.03 | NightHawkAtWork | your mom. |
| 23:43.08 | Pkekyo | dylanm: maths |
| 23:43.10 | dylanm | <-- is a math grad student. |
| 23:43.12 | dylanm | Right. |
| 23:43.21 | dylanm | So naturally my ears perk up at these things. |
| 23:43.27 | Pkekyo | I was asking what the flying fuck complex numbers are :p |
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| 23:44.21 | Pkekyo | but now I've figured out as much as I don't wanna know if I don't have to to pass maths |
| 23:46.41 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 23:46.47 | dylanm | But... but it's algebraically closed. |
| 23:46.58 | Pkekyo | huh? |
| 23:47.00 | NightHawkAtWork | just like your mom. |
| 23:47.58 | Pkekyo | so basicly, it's big, fat and ugly? |
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| 23:48.57 | dylanm | I weep for the future. |
| 23:49.05 | dylanm | :D |
| 23:49.07 | NightHawkAtWork | dylanm: indeed. |
| 23:49.08 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 23:49.23 | Pkekyo | don't worry, I'm not an aspiring scientist :p |
| 23:49.53 | Aeyan | Programmers always get uppity when you start talking about maths |
| 23:50.03 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 23:50.24 | ckknight | mathematical! |
| 23:51.14 | Pkekyo | oh go away you goddamn prodigy |
| 23:52.00 | buu | Anyone know the coefficient on immolate? |
| 23:52.01 | dylanm | It's ckknight. |
| 23:52.10 | ckknight | e^iπ - 1 = 0 |
| 23:52.20 | dylanm | OH NO MAGIC RUN |
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| 23:52.28 | CIA-12 | AlarAutomation |
| 23:52.28 | CIA-12 | 3.1.0 |
| 23:52.28 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau safepet warns if your pet is aggressive when zoning |
| 23:52.28 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau track opens a panel to track farmed item |
| 23:52.29 | CIA-12 | Feature: /aau watch watcher for buff, with /aau watch config |
| 23:52.31 | CIA-12 | you chooose which buff you want to be reminded about |
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| 23:52.35 | dylanm | ALAR'ED |
| 23:52.36 | Stan_ | waaa |
| 23:52.36 | aestil | what good is maths? maths never helped me kill archimonde. |
| 23:52.47 | ckknight | ...yes the do |
| 23:52.47 | Pkekyo | lol aestil |
| 23:52.48 | ckknight | they* |
| 23:53.19 | aestil | ckknight i only need the maths to know how many poeople, decursers and healers. |
| 23:53.28 | aestil | counting as high as 25 makes that doable |
| 23:53.44 | Pkekyo | :p |
| 23:53.46 | NightHawkAtWork | math makes existence possible. :P |
| 23:54.12 | Pkekyo | your mother makes existence possible :O |
| 23:54.15 | aestil | quite literally NightHawkAtWork, yet understanding all that is not nessecary to exist in the very world that maths make possible. |
| 23:54.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Pkekyo: also true. |
| 23:54.31 | dylanm | They should make you integrate something crazy before you're allowed to loot Cataclysm's Edge. |
| 23:54.52 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: damn you, you're supposed to be offended by that |
| 23:55.02 | NightHawkAtWork | dylanm: "Archimonde dies. You have ten minutes to Integrate this equation before his corpse despawns:" |
| 23:55.10 | NightHawkAtWork | :D |
| 23:55.42 | Pkekyo | >.< |
| 23:55.51 | dylanm | Something that requires Lebesgue stuffs. |
| 23:56.13 | NightHawkAtWork | Actually, on a related note, back when I used to be far more of a software pirate, a few sites I went to made you solve equations to gain access. :P |
| 23:56.39 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 23:57.06 | aestil | i don't know what 'intergrate an equation' means. |
| 23:57.08 | aestil | so i fail. |
| 23:57.24 | aestil | its not about the loot for me anyways. i put a pass on all loots. |
| 23:57.30 | aestil | and yet i keep raiding!?! |
| 23:57.36 | Pkekyo | weirdo |
| 23:57.40 | Pkekyo | GEIF SHINY PURPULZ |
| 23:57.41 | aestil | its like i'm a free raider slot they never have to gear. |
| 23:57.56 | aestil | i have shiny purplez, the new ones are just a bit shinier |
| 23:58.16 | Pkekyo | shiniest ftw |
| 23:58.37 | Aeyan | Or... does existance as it is make maths possible. |
| 23:58.52 | Pkekyo | I'll have to side with Aeyan on this one |
| 23:59.01 | Pkekyo | makes the most sense to such an uneducated sod as myself :) |
| 23:59.14 | NightHawkAtWork | well, thats why you're an uneducated sod. :P |
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| 23:59.27 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 23:59.27 | CIA-12 | 3.1.1 |
| 23:59.27 | CIA-12 | Fixed: ..\AddOns\AlarBGHelper\AlarBGHelper.lua line 1826: table index is nil |
