| 00:00.22 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: I'm working on default settings |
| 00:00.40 | Pkekyo| | so how would I put target's target in there, ellipsis? |
| 00:00.56 | Ellipsis | what do you mean, your mouseover's target's target? |
| 00:01.17 | Pkekyo| | yup |
| 00:01.47 | Ellipsis | er, you can do [Name#mouseovertargettarget] I guess |
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| 00:06.53 | Pkekyo| | yup, works like a charm :) thanks |
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| 00:11.31 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, forgot to reset >.< |
| 00:13.15 | Ellipsis | hah, how far did you get before realizing that? |
| 00:14.13 | Pkekyo| | far |
| 00:14.28 | Pkekyo| | to the point I realized the rarespawn wasn't there |
| 00:15.43 | Ellipsis | oops :P |
| 00:16.13 | Pkekyo| | fucksake |
| 00:16.21 | Pkekyo| | only regular mobs sit in his spawnsite now |
| 00:16.38 | Pkekyo| | and there's no way getting out to reset besides dying |
| 00:17.16 | Ellipsis | dying is easy! |
| 00:17.30 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 00:17.37 | Pkekyo| | zerker stance + death wish naked ftw |
| 00:17.58 | thul | http://www.apple.com/trailers/warner_independent_pictures/funnygames/trailer1/ |
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| 00:20.22 | Pkekyo| | that movie looks awesome |
| 00:20.29 | Pkekyo| | I know people like that :p |
| 00:21.48 | Pkekyo| | FUCKSAKE |
| 00:21.51 | Pkekyo| | forgot to reset AGAIN |
| 00:22.21 | Ellipsis | fail >_> |
| 00:22.23 | buu | HA HA HA |
| 00:22.30 | buu | You lose! |
| 00:23.01 | Pkekyo| | indeed...fucks fucking fuckedup fucking sake |
| 00:23.12 | Pkekyo| | thul distracted me with that trailer...bastard |
| 00:24.26 | thul | haha |
| 00:24.36 | thul | are you joining me at colloseum Pkekyo| ? :-P |
| 00:24.40 | thul | just a few months till :-D |
| 00:24.47 | Pkekyo| | what happens at colloseum? |
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| 00:28.23 | Pkekyo| | mate of mine, got a paycheck last friday, 7.6k.... when he woke up this morning, he had 1.5k left :> |
| 00:28.42 | ckknight | wtf |
| 00:28.44 | ckknight | how? |
| 00:29.42 | Pkekyo| | alcohol and whatnot |
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| 00:30.13 | Ellipsis | yeah but who knows what that is in USD :P |
| 00:30.52 | Pkekyo| | err... divide by six |
| 00:31.27 | Pkekyo| | so he started out with approx 1266 USD, ended with about 250 USD |
| 00:31.27 | ckknight | looks neat, thul |
| 00:31.46 | Pkekyo| | what looks neat? and what happens at the bloody colloseum? |
| 00:31.52 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: how the fuck do you go through a kilobuck of alcohol? |
| 00:32.16 | Pkekyo| | I think the 'whatnot' played a more significant role in the spending than the 'alcohol' part :p |
| 00:32.50 | rubik | ahh.. not USD.. was going to say.. who gets paid US$7.6k (net, not gross pay) in one paycheck.. |
| 00:33.08 | Pkekyo| | heh :) |
| 00:33.10 | rubik | hrmm.. unless it's a monthly paycheck.. that could be doable with like $120k/yr |
| 00:33.21 | thul | Pkekyo|: that movie :-P |
| 00:33.23 | rubik | no it can't, n/m.. heh |
| 00:33.30 | Pkekyo| | he got paid for one month....1266 USD |
| 00:33.39 | ckknight | where you live? |
| 00:33.49 | Pkekyo| | so he could prolly reach 120k USD/year if he worked fulltime |
| 00:33.50 | Pkekyo| | norway |
| 00:33.58 | thul | I got 4000 USD this month |
| 00:33.58 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:34.06 | thul | quite satisfied with that :-D |
| 00:34.07 | ckknight | now is that 1266 USD before or after taxes? |
| 00:34.07 | Pkekyo| | thul: nah, if I could afford a one-way trip to oslo, I'd be living there a long time ago :> |
| 00:34.10 | rubik | ouch.. norway expensive to live on that much only.. no? |
| 00:34.13 | thul | Pkekyo|:P |
| 00:34.37 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: he'll prolly have to pay income tax on it later on |
| 00:34.42 | ckknight | ugh |
| 00:34.45 | Pkekyo| | rubik: indeed...you should see the liquor prices |
| 00:35.01 | Pkekyo| | - only if he earns more than 50k/year though |
| 00:35.02 | thul | rubik: I pay about 550 USD rent, 600 usd for food, about 100 usd on school books each month, 100 usd on bus-ticket.. |
| 00:35.05 | rubik | i can see spending US$1,000 in a night of drinking then.. that's like $400 worth of alcohol here in the US |
| 00:35.28 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:35.30 | Pkekyo| | rubik: wasn't as much drinking as it was...other activities... |
| 00:35.32 | ckknight | okay, I can get that |
| 00:35.35 | rubik | gotcha |
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| 00:35.57 | ckknight | I have no expenses, everything I earn goes into savings |
| 00:36.06 | Pkekyo| | I should -REALLY- write this essay now |
| 00:36.25 | Pkekyo| | I don't have the time to work tbh :< |
| 00:36.25 | Pkekyo| | studies are too much this year |
| 00:36.51 | Pkekyo| | hoping to sell a couple of photos this winter maybe and bring in a littl emoney |
| 00:37.04 | thul | i put 500 usd into svins each month |
| 00:37.15 | thul | Pkekyo|: i sold a poster for 4k nok the other day :-P |
| 00:37.21 | rubik | all i know when i visited the nordic countries a few years back (only denmark and sweden, though) that they were ranked as such (cost of living, from most expensive to least): norway/denmark -> finland -> sweden |
| 00:37.33 | rubik | not sure if that's still the case or not |
| 00:37.34 | Pkekyo| | screw you thul...what photo? :) |
| 00:37.44 | thul | two sec, Iall find it |
| 00:37.55 | thul | it is really emo:P but the girl that bought it really liked it |
| 00:38.26 | Pkekyo| | hoping for a good snowboarding season this year so I can sell a couple of photos to a boarding magazine |
| 00:38.45 | Pkekyo| | one of my photos won a contest, so I'll get it printed on canvas, free of charge :) |
| 00:42.00 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, is dART as slow as syrup tonight? |
| 00:42.06 | thul | http://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/art/Under-the-Bridge-II-62954756 < Pkekyo| that one |
| 00:42.10 | thul | and yeah, dart is _very_ slow |
| 00:42.15 | thul | that is why it took me that long to find it:p |
| 00:42.24 | Pkekyo| | http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2007/328/7/8/Sunbathing_I_by_Pkekyo.jpg this would be mine |
| 00:42.39 | Pkekyo| | wish I had a HDR shot of that |
| 00:43.09 | thul | yeah:) typical hdr-kind of shot, but impossible to get the dynamic parts (the human being etc) in a hdr :/ |
| 00:43.15 | thul | amazing view though :-) |
| 00:43.28 | Pkekyo| | yeah, the twat didn't stand still for long :p |
| 00:43.39 | thul | hehe |
| 00:43.43 | Pkekyo| | that's pretty much the view right outside my window |
| 00:43.56 | Pkekyo| | cool photo...where's it taken? looks familiar for some reason |
| 00:44.30 | thul | oslo, by akerselva. |
| 00:44.45 | Pkekyo| | where though? |
| 00:44.52 | bigzero | I find it kinda funny that half the sites that display those w3c xhtml and css validation banners (saying they are completely compatible with the standard) don't actually pass the test when you click on them |
| 00:44.56 | Pkekyo| | can't shake the feeling I've been there sometime |
| 00:44.57 | bigzero | wowace included |
| 00:45.08 | thul | http://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/art/The-smoker-72367598 < picture from last night. |
| 00:45.25 | thul | Pkekyo|: 20 minutes walk from oslo s. |
| 00:45.26 | Pkekyo| | fucking piece of shit cyrup page :p |
| 00:45.29 | thul | at sagene/thing. |
| 00:45.31 | thul | yeah.. slow |
| 00:45.34 | Pkekyo| | it's 2am, why is it so bloody slow? |
| 00:45.35 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 00:45.56 | Pkekyo| | that guy looks like someone who beat me up once |
| 00:46.15 | thul | hehe |
| 00:46.48 | Pkekyo| | the clothing during the early nineties was awesome :p |
| 00:46.56 | thul | haha |
| 00:46.58 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i just noticed a bug with the version query in either ace2 or rock (guessing rock has it too) |
| 00:47.18 | ckknight | oh? |
| 00:47.23 | Pkekyo| | mate of mine just linked me this vid...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VfIDTsjCBg sure brings back memories....can't blieve people thought that looked extremely cool :p |
| 00:48.23 | thul | you have seen the moppepojker vid?:p |
| 00:48.41 | Pkekyo| | dunno |
| 00:49.01 | Pkekyo| | I've got the distinct feeling I'm the only norwegian that ever listened to ska tbh :p |
| 00:50.14 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i did a version query on LoD BigWigs modules and its not reporting as the 'yes but not loaded' anymore and when i look in ACP before and after sending the query and its loading the LoD modules for me |
| 00:50.23 | thul | http://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/art/Skeptisk-72367678 <- Pkekyo| |
| 00:50.39 | Pkekyo| | that better not be what I think it is :p |
| 00:50.52 | thul | w00t? :-P |
| 00:51.01 | Arrowmaster | so i think i just loaded BigWigs_NajAssist and BigWigs_BlackTemple for everybody in my guild even though we havent entered BT yet tonight |
| 00:51.19 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: hrm, that seems odd |
| 00:51.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah it does |
| 00:51.37 | Pkekyo| | "If god came down on christmas day, I know exactly what he'd say. He'd say Oi! to the punks and Oi! to the skins, and Oi to the world, and everybody wins" |
| 00:51.42 | Arrowmaster | interesting 'hidden feature' but deffently shouldnt do that by default |
| 00:51.52 | Pkekyo| | ok, not gonna kill you thul :p |
| 00:52.07 | thul | haha |
| 00:52.10 | thul | w00t? I'm not with you :-D |
| 00:52.16 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: hehe |
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| 00:52.28 | Arrowmaster | could be a bug with AceComm's calls to AceLibrary not setting the 'dont autoload' flag |
| 00:52.37 | Pkekyo| | thul: seen the posten commercials on TV? |
| 00:52.45 | Pkekyo| | "njaaeh....skeptisk!" |
| 00:52.54 | thul | ahhhh |
| 00:52.55 | thul | yeah :-P |
| 00:52.56 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 00:52.57 | Pkekyo| | I hate that twat |
| 00:53.03 | Gnarfoz | so Doomwalker resets threat only on overrun? |
| 00:53.05 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: ah, that'd make sense |
| 00:53.06 | Gnarfoz | not on earthquake? |
| 00:53.41 | Xinhuan | its one or the other Gnarfoz, can't remember which |
| 00:53.45 | Xinhuan | but not both |
| 00:53.51 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 00:53.52 | thul | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs23/i/2007/351/9/f/The_smoker_BW_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- did you like it BW Pkekyo| ? |
| 00:54.03 | Gnarfoz | not both is good enough for me, because... |
| 00:54.06 | Gnarfoz | you'll see in a sec |
| 00:54.09 | Pkekyo| | colored is better im |
| 00:54.09 | Pkekyo| | o |
| 00:54.15 | thul | k |
| 00:54.38 | Pkekyo| | gives that pic another dimension...or something like that... |
| 00:55.04 | CIA-8 | 03gnarfoz * r57106 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: Threat-1.0: updated Doomwalker NPC module deDE triggers |
| 00:55.19 | Pkekyo| | I'm all for black/white photos, but some just look alot better 'in technicolor' |
| 00:55.26 | CIA-8 | 03ckknight * r57107 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - don't autoload libraries or addons with the addon version pinger. |
| 00:55.43 | Gnarfoz | well, kind of annoying to yell at your raid for not watching their aggro when /their/ Omen didn't wipe threat :D |
| 00:56.16 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 00:56.20 | Birdemani | why did someone remove the season three weapons from atlas loot |
| 00:56.28 | Pkekyo| | because you're a bad person! |
| 00:56.40 | Gnarfoz | also, deDE BigWigs is missing like, all triggers for Doomwalker :< |
| 00:56.48 | Xinhuan | its not removed Birdemani |
| 00:57.07 | Gnarfoz | how do you best gather those? get someone to /chatlog? get someone to use Transcriptor? |
| 00:57.17 | Xinhuan | but rather, the menu option got removed |
| 00:57.30 | Xinhuan | just go to season 3 set gear, click "back" a few times |
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| 00:57.37 | Xinhuan | until you see a menu for "season 3 weapons" |
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| 01:00.24 | Gnarfoz | oh, well |
| 01:00.44 | Gnarfoz | seems I wasn't paying too much attention either, today... Cloak of Shadows removes earthquake? ;D |
| 01:01.17 | Xinhuan | wouldn't it just get reapplied? |
| 01:01.21 | Xinhuan | its like gruul's cavein |
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| 01:01.56 | Gnarfoz | dunno |
| 01:01.59 | Gnarfoz | I didn't try! :D |
| 01:02.23 | Gnarfoz | it was all a matter of focus anyway |
| 01:02.40 | Gnarfoz | too bad Kazzak didn't work out :< |
| 01:02.55 | Xinhuan | kazzak's really easy |
| 01:03.18 | Xinhuan | what you do is, tank goes in, gets 5 secs of aggro (with MD), then everyone max dps zerg. |
| 01:03.45 | Xinhuan | 10 secs before he enrages, everyone in the raid except the paladins run out - by run out i mean run out 80 yards away from the boss |
| 01:04.02 | Xinhuan | when he enrages 10 secs later, all these pallies divine shields and heals the MT |
| 01:04.16 | Xinhuan | so the aoe shadow bolts hit nobody |
| 01:04.33 | Xinhuan | when its over, everybody runs back in and kills kazzak before he enrages again |
| 01:04.34 | Xinhuan | simple? |
| 01:04.49 | Primer | I solo'd Kazzak |
| 01:04.57 | Primer | <-- warlock |
| 01:05.58 | buu | Xinhuan: Haha |
| 01:06.01 | buu | Yeah, really. |
| 01:06.11 | buu | I did kazzak in full pvp spec, I took like 1k damage during enrage |
| 01:06.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that would have worked |
| 01:06.23 | Gnarfoz | but only two pallies |
| 01:06.28 | Gnarfoz | not sure we could have kept our MT up |
| 01:06.29 | Xinhuan | or if you have SR gear, you could just use that ;p |
| 01:06.29 | AnduinLothar | warlocks are OP.. they can solo hydros too |
| 01:06.36 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, chatlgo doesn't log yells |
| 01:06.40 | Funkeh` | you would need transcriptor |
| 01:06.41 | buu | Hydross deserved it. |
| 01:06.42 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: what does, then? |
| 01:06.44 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 01:06.55 | Funkeh` | should be pretty easy to understand |
| 01:07.01 | Funkeh` | gimme a shout if you are having difficulty |
| 01:07.04 | Gnarfoz | yeah I've used it before |
| 01:07.28 | Gnarfoz | I really only need it for the translations because there's no other way to get them then to have someone doing the encounter record them |
| 01:07.35 | Primer | so...not long ago I was talking about how pitbull can't be configured to look differently based on the raid size and someone here recommended 2 other mods. One was perfectraid. What was the other? |
| 01:07.45 | Gnarfoz | seems quite some BigWigs modules are missing deDE triggers and stuff |
| 01:07.58 | Primer | I looked at some of the perfectraid screenshots and I was not impressed |
| 01:08.08 | cladhaire | grid was the other suggestion |
| 01:08.15 | thul | grid |
| 01:08.20 | thul | grid rocks. |
| 01:08.21 | Primer | yes, thank you |
| 01:08.21 | thul | simple as that :-P |
| 01:08.36 | thul | http://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/current_ui3.png <- grid |
| 01:08.57 | Gnarfoz | you're a rogue, what do you use grid for? :D |
| 01:09.09 | Xinhuan | maybe he's a raid leader |
| 01:09.19 | Gnarfoz | I am, too |
| 01:09.27 | Gnarfoz | I just use XRS ^^ |
| 01:09.43 | Xinhuan | xrs can't tell you exactly who has what debuffs, or exactly who died |
| 01:09.44 | Gnarfoz | to each his own of course, but I'm curious ^^ |
| 01:09.51 | Primer | I really like how pitbull is ultra configurable |
| 01:10.02 | Xinhuan | in a raid leading scenerio, you often need to know exactly what is happening, not a summary |
| 01:10.05 | Gnarfoz | it can tell me exactly who died oO it's in the tooltip of my death bar :) |
| 01:10.14 | Primer | but not being able to have it look differently based on raid size makes it unusable |
| 01:10.23 | thul | Gnarfoz: I like to see who's alive, who's got which dots, who is getting assraped by adds, so i have to help them |
| 01:10.27 | thul | etc |
| 01:10.27 | thul | (in pve that is) |
| 01:10.33 | thul | in pvp, I like that too for that matter:p |
| 01:10.51 | Gnarfoz | I don't really pvp much, but I see where you're going for the pve stuff |
| 01:11.18 | Xinhuan | for eg on archimonde, if you note that someone's curse isn't getting decursed after 5 seconds, you can cuss that mage responsible about it ;p |
| 01:11.40 | thul | http://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/current_ui4.jpg <- my a bit more messy warrior-levling ui :-P |
| 01:11.47 | Xinhuan | that would of course require you to have raid frames that show debuffs |
| 01:12.15 | Pkekyo| | holy jumping fucking jesus thul |
| 01:12.21 | Pkekyo| | I just felt like slapping you :p |
| 01:12.44 | Pkekyo| | http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg old UI of mine |
| 01:12.50 | Primer | I really need to get a widescreen LCD |
| 01:12.55 | Primer | my UI is really crowded |
| 01:13.07 | Aeyan | I'm getting one soon |
| 01:13.12 | Aeyan | Saving a UI overhaul till then |
| 01:13.29 | Gnarfoz | thul: you need, like, Aloft or something ;D default blizzard nameplates are fugly |
| 01:13.41 | thul | hehe |
| 01:13.44 | thul | i know.. but i seldom use them:P |
| 01:14.09 | thul | Pkekyo|: w00t? :-P |
| 01:14.26 | Aeyan | Use my mod! |
| 01:14.33 | Pkekyo| | that UI was fugly as hell...to say the least |
| 01:14.33 | Aeyan | It turns them on and off =P |
| 01:14.43 | thul | haha |
| 01:14.50 | thul | it is a levling ui |
| 01:14.55 | thul | that means: function over form |
| 01:14.56 | thul | :-P |
| 01:14.59 | Gnarfoz | I'm still annoyed by the fact the enabling the name playes protects the WorldFrame |
| 01:15.07 | Gnarfoz | thus breaking BigWigs Flash'n'Shake |
| 01:15.14 | Pkekyo| | looks like it fell out of the fugly-plane, crashed down through the fugly-tree and hit every goddamn branch on it's way down, where it got beaten up with the fugly-stick by a fugly old woman |
| 01:15.23 | Gnarfoz | *nameplates* oO |
| 01:15.34 | thul | haha |
| 01:15.42 | thul | well, it works :-) |
| 01:15.45 | thul | that is the most important part:p |
| 01:15.49 | Pkekyo| | I have my doubts |
| 01:15.51 | Xinhuan | it doesn't matter in 2.3.2 anymore Gnarfoz, they are making WorldFrame explicitly protected ;p |
| 01:16.00 | thul | haha |
| 01:16.01 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: err well... nice |
| 01:16.05 | Pkekyo| | if I had that UI, I prolly wouldn't even be able to find my own bloody keyboard |
| 01:16.15 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: any idea why oO |
| 01:16.20 | thul | well, I like to have damage in on left, damage out on right |
| 01:16.21 | Xinhuan | if you checked the framexml that is, for the latest ptr hehe |
| 01:16.23 | Pkekyo| | because YOUR FACE :p |
| 01:16.32 | Xinhuan | no clue, maybe they didn't want you to shake it |
| 01:16.34 | thul | i like to have buffs in the top right |
| 01:16.45 | thul | I like to have chat and combat log in lower left and right :;p |
| 01:16.48 | Gnarfoz | I liked the shakey :< |
| 01:16.53 | thul | that kind of makes it :-P |
| 01:17.09 | Pkekyo| | thul: this is how you do that: http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg |
| 01:17.13 | ckknight | Xinhuan: aw man, that'd be a good idea |
| 01:17.18 | Gnarfoz | it meant that our stupid players (which make up quite a bit of our raid -.-) would not die to stuff like Solarian's bombs |
| 01:17.19 | ckknight | have it shake when you're hit |
| 01:17.29 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 01:17.38 | thul | Pkekyo|: hmm, that just looks a bit to litle info for me:p |
| 01:17.41 | Xinhuan | well your screen still flashes |
| 01:17.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah I know |
| 01:17.47 | Xinhuan | but that's about the max you can do next patch |
| 01:17.48 | Pkekyo| | thul: what do you lack? |
| 01:17.59 | thul | or, info in wrong ways. |
| 01:18.05 | thul | well, i like graphical HP/mana-displays |
| 01:18.05 | Pkekyo| | howso? |
| 01:18.07 | thul | not numbers, |
| 01:18.25 | Pkekyo| | yeah, HP/rage comes up as an arc on the left/right side of your char when in combat |
| 01:18.28 | Gnarfoz | could just make the flash more obvious... like flash a 100% opaque pink full-screen on top of UIParent xD |
| 01:18.43 | thul | and i like numbers further away from char on the right and left side, to have unobstructed field of view:p |
| 01:18.56 | thul | buuuut |
| 01:18.58 | thul | i have to sleep |
| 01:19.00 | thul | so cya tomorrow! |
| 01:19.04 | Pkekyo| | thul: I've also got parrot scrolling down outside the arcs with HP/rage |
| 01:19.20 | thul | good :-P |
| 01:19.20 | Pkekyo| | g'nite nublet, dream about making a proper UI plx :p |
| 01:19.21 | thul | then you're getting close to mine :-P |
| 01:19.23 | thul | hahaha |
| 01:19.26 | thul | my UI's rock. |
| 01:19.27 | thul | your socks. |
| 01:19.30 | thul | :-D |
| 01:19.35 | Pkekyo| | it's like yours, only a gazililon times better |
| 01:19.45 | Pkekyo| | your UI is just a cluttered hellhole made up by random info |
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| 01:21.14 | Aeyan | Inevitably, I look at my UIs a week or two later and wonder what I was thinking |
| 01:21.14 | Pkekyo| | thul: get Dash |
| 01:21.30 | dylanm | Why people gotta hate. |
| 01:21.33 | ckknight | oh, by the way, nice thing I've done with Parrot (settings-wise) |
| 01:21.41 | ckknight | have all "good" things show up on the right arc |
| 01:21.46 | ckknight | and all "bad" things show up on the left arc |
| 01:21.57 | thul | http://unixgen.com/~thul/avwin.png <- my old shaman ui :-P |
| 01:22.01 | thul | Pkekyo|: what is dash? :-P |
| 01:22.03 | ckknight | works for me as a pally, when I'm in the zone, the good side is filled and the bad side has nothing in it |
| 01:22.06 | ckknight | cause I block a lot |
| 01:22.23 | Aeyan | I've got incoming damage on the left, cooldowns and new applied effects (on me) on the right, and notifications of stuff (like spell casts) in the center |
| 01:22.34 | Pkekyo| | well, it's better, but ridiculous sizes on everything |
| 01:22.41 | thul | haha |
| 01:23.00 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: yeah, that's a good way of handling the spam a paladin can generate on sct-like addons |
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| 01:23.04 | thul | still, wtf is dash? :-P |
| 01:23.15 | Aeyan | Hide-a-layer |
| 01:23.18 | Pkekyo| | thul: it's a 2nd strata layer (someone correct me if I'm wrong), that you can connect UI elements you don't constantly use to and hide'em when not needed (out of sight, out of mind) |
| 01:23.31 | Stan_ | like mac os expose |
| 01:23.33 | Aeyan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html |
| 01:23.51 | dylanm | Sucks that Kyahx quit :-/ |
| 01:23.52 | thul | http://unixgen.com/~thul/Killthemobs.png <- imba-shaman-dps |
| 01:23.53 | thul | ah, ok |
| 01:23.55 | thul | that one |
| 01:24.41 | dylanm | Luckily someone is recreating other OS X window managing features, the ones people didn't like as much |
| 01:24.46 | Pkekyo| | your UIs look cluttered as hell to me thul :/ |
| 01:24.55 | thul | Pkekyo|: pfft:) |
| 01:24.57 | thul | http://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/current_raid.jpg <- another sexy one |
| 01:25.02 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: care to elaborate? |
| 01:25.09 | dylanm | Looking for it... |
| 01:25.15 | Pkekyo| | cluttered as hell |
| 01:25.21 | thul | I like info :-D |
| 01:25.22 | Pkekyo| | atleast you could bloody hide the anchor of EBBs |
| 01:25.28 | Ellipsis | oh my god thul, your minimap is ridiculous |
| 01:25.34 | Pkekyo| | that's not info, it's a bloody mess |
| 01:25.35 | thul | haha |
| 01:25.40 | thul | pfft:D |
| 01:25.45 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, huh? you said they are making uiparent protected, not worldframe |
| 01:25.47 | Pkekyo| | and why the hell do you have minimap buttons? |
| 01:25.49 | dylanm | Pkekyo|: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzBz60OtZKo |
| 01:25.51 | thul | you guys are just jealous on my multi tasking capabilities:p |
| 01:25.55 | thul | Pkekyo|: I like to use them :-P |
| 01:26.01 | Ellipsis | NEEDS LESS MINIMAP MESS |
| 01:26.05 | thul | hahaha |
| 01:26.12 | Aeyan | Buttons on my minimap send me into a rage |
| 01:26.21 | thul | I have one thing to say: http://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/screw_you.jpg |
| 01:26.25 | Xinhuan | hmm can't remember if it was uiparent or worldframe then Funkeh` |
| 01:26.26 | Pkekyo| | you're insane thul |
| 01:26.26 | dylanm | That could be good. |
| 01:26.28 | thul | Aeyan: if you are a warrior, that is good? :-P |
| 01:26.38 | thul | Pkekyo|: insane, genius, insane.. who knows:p |
| 01:26.45 | Xinhuan | my memory isn't that perfect :) |
| 01:26.46 | Pkekyo| | I know |
| 01:26.46 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, big difference tbh :P |
| 01:26.48 | Pkekyo| | insane |
| 01:26.48 | Aeyan | My main is a priest, so not so good =P |
| 01:26.49 | Pkekyo| | period |
| 01:26.57 | Aeyan | Though, I AM playing a warrior right now |
| 01:27.11 | thul | but now I HAVE to sleep, if anyone feels like making a very minimalist UI that still gives me lots of info, go ahead :-P but if you can't beat deetees, don't bother :-P |
| 01:27.12 | Pkekyo| | bwahahaha, a dock in wow?! |
| 01:27.15 | thul | nite kids :-D |
| 01:27.19 | Pkekyo| | g'nite dongjob |
| 01:27.21 | Pkekyo| | deetee? |
| 01:27.23 | Pkekyo| | you know him? |
| 01:27.49 | thul | well, I play the same server on two of my chars and rip off his UI when playing healer |
| 01:27.53 | dylanm | Pkekyo|: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPG9AJWtPE0&feature=related too |
| 01:28.18 | Pkekyo| | that dock crap has got to be a nightmare whilst playing |
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| 01:28.36 | Pkekyo| | granted, looks fancypants in the OS (hell, I'm using a dock myself), but that there is just ridiculous |
| 01:29.35 | thul | http://www.axemen.org/dualscr.jpg < Pkekyo| |
| 01:29.40 | Aeyan | Yes, no dock for my WoW |
| 01:29.45 | Aeyan | Desktop is far enough |
| 01:30.09 | Pkekyo| | if that's not cluttered, I'm sam motherfucking l jackson |
| 01:30.26 | dylanm | Wow that's intense. |
| 01:30.33 | Pkekyo| | he did something innovative, I'll grant him that |
| 01:30.39 | Pkekyo| | the whole axemen lot are crazy though |
| 01:30.40 | ckknight | I liked you in pulp fiction |
| 01:30.45 | thul | http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9145/dtui11cb0.png <- Pkekyo| |
| 01:31.11 | ckknight | the issue I see with that is that eye movement can be quite large |
| 01:31.13 | Pkekyo| | that's too minimalistic again |
| 01:31.20 | thul | no such thing :-P |
| 01:31.32 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: he's running on 2x 21" or something...eye moivement would be insane |
| 01:31.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:31.41 | thul | if I could remember all my keybindings for both rogue, warrior, paladin and shaman |
| 01:31.45 | thul | i would hide all my buttons :-P |
| 01:31.47 | Pkekyo| | like I said, the axemen are crazy people |
| 01:31.54 | thul | just have minimap, combat text and chat :-D |
| 01:32.00 | thul | (and unit frames:P) |
| 01:32.17 | Primer | hrmm I'd like to get that dual screen setup working |
| 01:32.57 | Pkekyo| | thul: get one of those fancypants LCD keyboards that can display the spell icon on the keys :p |
| 01:33.04 | Primer | I have 2x19" at 1280x1024 each on a 8800 gtx |
| 01:34.00 | Aeyan | I'm sitting at 1280x1024 on a 17" at the moment |
| 01:34.11 | kadrahil | 640 bonus honor from an av win on a non av weekend? |
| 01:34.11 | Aeyan | Upgrading soon and looking forward to it |
| 01:34.12 | kadrahil | wow |
| 01:34.20 | Primer | but I usually just keep one LCD on when booted into windows |
| 01:34.24 | Pkekyo| | buying a new 22" widescreen just after christmas :) gonna be puuuure love |
| 01:34.48 | Aeyan | Someone once said, the first step is creating a minimalist UI = widescreen |
| 01:34.49 | Aeyan | Hehe |
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| 01:35.19 | Aeyan | Tongue-in-cheek, but still some truth there |
| 01:35.27 | Aeyan | So much easier |
| 01:36.31 | Pkekyo| | 22" widescreen running 1600-something x 1400-something...should give a fair amount of screen realestate tbh |
| 01:36.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Aeyan: eh, thats not really true. wide screen just -feels- minimalist, because the screen area to ui area ratio increases :P |
| 01:37.02 | Aeyan | Yeah, that was my point |
| 01:37.46 | NightHawkTheSane | but it's not that "there's still some truth there" it's that there isn't any :P |
| 01:38.14 | Aeyan | More screen space = more 'minimal' UI, hehe |
| 01:38.23 | Aeyan | Same amount of crap, just better spaced |
| 01:38.37 | Aeyan | But anyway |
| 01:38.42 | NightHawkTheSane | thats like saying "i bought a bigger suit, so now I'm thinner." :P |
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| 01:41.00 | Pkekyo| | it's all illusions NightHawkTheSane, and you know it |
| 01:43.04 | ckknight | get a pair of jeans with a smaller pocket and your ass looks bigger |
| 01:44.13 | kd3 | new PTR client! current build: 7720. 805 byte diff (ya rly) at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/0.3.2.7705-7720.diff |
| 01:44.34 | Pkekyo| | jus as you are O.o |
| 01:45.41 | Pkekyo| | indeed, it's all relative :p |
| 01:47.23 | Xinhuan | thx kd3 ;p |
| 01:48.15 | Aeyan | Speaking of relative, you guys like the black or the grey better? 1) http://tinyurl.com/33tswe - 2) http://tinyurl.com/2jltrb |
| 01:49.13 | dylanm | The second one, definitely. |
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| 01:49.57 | kenlyric | which one is black? |
| 01:50.13 | Aeyan | The little borders around stuff |
| 01:50.20 | dylanm | Incredible diff. |
| 01:50.32 | Aeyan | #1 would be the black |
| 01:50.38 | kenlyric | second one |
| 01:51.12 | Aeyan | Appreciate the input =) |
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| 02:04.09 | Gnarfoz | [Ammo]: if 'cmd' is not defined inside a BigWigs module locale, does that mean the slash cmd will not be accessible? |
| 02:05.01 | Xinhuan | it means it will be the same name as the module itself |
| 02:05.59 | Gnarfoz | why do only enUS locales define it, then? |
| 02:06.09 | Gnarfoz | the module names are in english, anyway? |
| 02:06.10 | Ellipsis | interesting |
| 02:06.21 | Xinhuan | out of habit maybe? |
| 02:06.29 | Ellipsis | completed the relic daily and gained "Simon Game Reward Offset" buff for a split second o.O |
| 02:06.48 | Xinhuan | i don't know, i didn't read/look at the OnModuleInitialize() prototype |
| 02:08.10 | ckknight | also, I wish I could run Windows apps from my Mac without hassle |
| 02:08.49 | ckknight | oh, and at reasonable speed, too |
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| 02:09.17 | ckknight | I tried VMWare, it was slow as hell, Crossover can't seem to install anything |
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| 02:10.34 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 02:10.39 | theoddone33 | 2v2 paladin mage vs druid war |
| 02:10.43 | theoddone33 | went on for a long long time |
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| 02:11.09 | rubik | who won? |
| 02:11.14 | theoddone33 | druid war |
| 02:11.32 | theoddone33 | pressure was on the mage the whole fight |
| 02:11.38 | ckknight | nice matchup |
| 02:11.39 | theoddone33 | and me (paladin) kept getting cycloned |
| 02:11.49 | theoddone33 | finally they got a lucky string of things and took down the mage |
| 02:11.53 | theoddone33 | was at least 15 minutes long |
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| 02:12.52 | sag_ich_nicht | addon that shows cooldowns and buffs as bars. name one. |
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| 02:13.45 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: elk buff bars? Wait, that's just buffs |
| 02:13.51 | Gnarfoz | CandyDice =) |
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| 02:14.33 | Codayus | I use DoTimer, personally. |
| 02:14.51 | Yeppy | soo whats this channel? :D |
| 02:15.06 | Yeppy | ace stand for anything? |
| 02:15.15 | Gnarfoz | I'd guess |
| 02:15.18 | Gnarfoz | ~ace |
| 02:15.18 | purl | hmm... ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 02:15.43 | Gnarfoz | that actually worked :D |
| 02:15.48 | Yeppy | hhee :D |
| 02:17.23 | Xinhuan | i would take out "lightweight" from that description |
| 02:17.31 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks. |
| 02:17.48 | Codayus | Xinhuan: I think that was written back in the Ace 1 days. :-D |
| 02:18.05 | Xinhuan | ~factoid ace |
| 02:18.06 | purl | ACTION gives ace a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 02:18.10 | Xinhuan | ~fact ace |
| 02:18.23 | Xinhuan | whatever that command is |
| 02:18.24 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 02:19.53 | Yeppy | Stiill not 100% sure what ace is :D |
| 02:20.12 | Yeppy | addons as in UI ? |
| 02:20.28 | Yeppy | are there more addons than just UIs? |
| 02:20.38 | Xinhuan | it is a set of commonly used libraries (called ace) used in addon development |
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| 02:21.45 | Yeppy | rightio, so if someone was to start an addon from scratch.. they would use the stuff on your site for a head start? |
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| 02:24.50 | ckknight | arguably |
| 02:24.57 | ckknight | there are other frameworks to use et al |
| 02:25.03 | ckknight | Rock, Dongle, frameworkless |
| 02:25.21 | ckknight | ~factinfo ace |
| 02:25.21 | purl | ace -- last modified at Sun Aug 6 01:39:39 2006 by ckknight!i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com; it has been requested 36 times, last by Gnarfoz, 10m 3s ago. |
| 02:26.10 | bigzero | any of the Prat Dev Team members currently on? |
| 02:26.43 | Yeppy | Ooh ok.. Now i'm just confused :D wheres a good newbie wow channel? :D |
| 02:27.50 | bigzero | Prat is tainting ChatFrames (duh) and causes Target option not to display in the UnitPopupMenu...not sure if you guys were aware of that and if there's any thought about fixing the problem |
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| 02:29.59 | ckknight | Yeppy: *shrug* what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 02:30.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz candydice looks nice, but lacks proper all class support |
| 02:30.55 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: old news, error on blizzards side, fixed in 2.3.2 |
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| 02:31.25 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: works fine for all classes, you just have to add stuff yourself :< |
| 02:31.58 | Gnarfoz | apart from CandyDice, I'd guess ClassTimer would do something similar |
| 02:31.58 | khangg | sag_ich_nicht, what do you use? |
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| 02:32.42 | Osstia_ | good evening |
| 02:33.04 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, EBB + some cooldown mod imo |
| 02:33.37 | Osstia_ | From doing a bit of reading, it looks like lua doesn't have a select case, or case . Is it common to just use if/then's instead? |
| 02:33.59 | bigzero | are 2.3.2 patchnotes posted anywhere...as far as ui changes go anyway? |
| 02:34.13 | Ellipsis | PTR notes |
| 02:34.18 | Osstia_ | bigzero, the only reference I have seen is on wowwiki |
| 02:34.25 | Ellipsis | might be info on the UI forum too |
| 02:34.28 | chexsum | osstia, its all the same anyway |
| 02:34.44 | Osstia_ | just habit I guess |
| 02:34.57 | bigzero | Ellipsis, PTR notes don't have anything about ui and forum only has 2.3 and 2.4 changes |
| 02:35.01 | Osstia_ | doing a case rather than an if/else if/else if |
| 02:35.12 | bigzero | Osstia_, thanks, will check wowwiki |
| 02:35.23 | Ellipsis | I haven't heard of any real UI changes in 2.3.2 though |
| 02:35.40 | Osstia_ | I think wowwiki is the same as the PTR though, so I doubt you will see what you are looking for |
| 02:35.40 | chexsum | try to put the most common result first in your if statements |
| 02:35.54 | Osstia_ | thanks chexsum |
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| 02:36.26 | NightHawkTheSane | you actually can emulate a select/case statement, its just a little extra leg work |
| 02:36.39 | chexsum | yea |
| 02:36.40 | Yeppy | ckknight , world domination.. but other than that I'm just new to the whole WoW scene |
| 02:36.53 | ckknight | sorry, Yeppy, I got that tied up |
| 02:37.07 | Yeppy | Hmph! |
| 02:37.09 | ckknight | you can be a vice-chancellor or something if you're really desperate |
| 02:37.22 | Yeppy | Can I make the tea.. i make good tea. |
| 02:37.32 | bigzero | Ellipsis, Osstia_: oo, nvm...I just quickly scanned through PTR notes for a ui section and didn't see it. It was not indented properly. So in conclusion, I suck |
| 02:37.59 | Osstia_ | hehe |
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| 02:40.27 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, the 2.3.2 fix you were talking about, is that for SetItemRef hooking? because that's the taint that's causing Target not to show up. |
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| 02:55.45 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: no, what causing the target to not show up is that the blizz dropdown menus are god damn friggin fragile |
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| 03:10.11 | kenlyric | http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html hmmm |
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| 03:12.58 | aestil | whats the explanation for wmp11 making wow load faster? |
| 03:13.47 | kenlyric | uhhhh |
| 03:16.30 | _rane | it's explained in the thread |
| 03:16.40 | aestil | the thread is sooooo long. |
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| 03:22.03 | aestil | woah. lupe fiasco's new cd is out. |
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| 03:23.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis. fix cooldowntimers2. prx. |
| 03:24.02 | dylanm | aestil: Yeah dude that leaked some time ago people seem to like it. |
| 03:24.13 | aestil | i knew it was coming. i missed it. |
| 03:24.43 | aestil | i was looking forward to it, but when you work too much, you can only pay attention to so much stuff. |
| 03:24.53 | aestil | last release i payed attention to was in rainbows. |
| 03:26.43 | sag_ich_nicht | it's registering incorrectly with Ace2 |
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| 03:31.29 | sag_ich_nicht | specifically interaction with aceconsole is fucked |
| 03:31.49 | Gnarfoz | <aestil> whats the explanation for wmp11 making wow load faster? <-- what are you talking about? ^^ |
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| 03:32.18 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: what's wrong with it? |
| 03:32.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: install it and login |
| 03:32.26 | sag_ich_nicht | then you know. |
| 03:32.36 | Ellipsis | I'm not going to install it |
| 03:32.38 | Ellipsis | I don't want it |
| 03:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | AceConsole interaction doesn't work properly, and a lot of stuff too |
| 03:32.42 | Ellipsis | cooldown bars suck |
| 03:32.44 | sag_ich_nicht | then just look at the code |
| 03:33.03 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57108 10BankItems/ (4 files): BankItems: Add more descriptive messages in the middle of BIGB if it has no data to show. |
| 03:33.41 | sag_ich_nicht | or lemme just pastey |
| 03:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/79155 |
| 03:34.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (ignore the tourguide error at the end) |
| 03:36.12 | sag_ich_nicht | and then |
| 03:36.20 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme show you what is ACTUALLY wrong too |
| 03:36.51 | sag_ich_nicht | this is error spam from ace2khaos because it detected coding errors in cooldowntimers2: |
| 03:36.51 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/79156 |
| 03:37.40 | *** join/#wowace aestil (n=holycall@cpe-72-129-96-142.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:37.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis do you see |
| 03:38.01 | sag_ich_nicht | what evils it is doing |
| 03:38.02 | Ellipsis | sec |
| 03:38.11 | Ellipsis | browser is still loading |
| 03:38.17 | Ellipsis | (running WoW atm) |
| 03:38.29 | sag_ich_nicht | (lol) |
| 03:39.05 | sag_ich_nicht | and there are errors from a friend of mine who's using IEF(so no stacktrace): |
| 03:39.16 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/79157 |
| 03:39.21 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: so basically the options table is screwed? |
| 03:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 03:39.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 03:40.19 | aestil | hey everyone. its uber leet fail time |
| 03:40.36 | Ellipsis | ok, and why should I want to fix this? |
| 03:40.44 | aestil | Ellipsis: you don't |
| 03:40.52 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 03:41.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: because otherwise i will bitch and moan about it in here |
| 03:41.47 | sag_ich_nicht | all. the. time. |
| 03:41.49 | Ellipsis | but you're cute when you complain |
| 03:41.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 03:41.56 | Ellipsis | plus it's fun to watch other people get owned |
| 03:42.04 | aestil | Ellipsis: /dance |
| 03:42.15 | buu | aestil: =[ =[ =[ |
| 03:42.21 | buu | aestil: I am crying for days. |
| 03:42.29 | sag_ich_nicht | well fuck you then, useless bitch, bet you can't even fix it because you're too lazy to code 8D |
| 03:42.41 | aestil | buu: whaa? church is backflagging some new raiders this week, we did TK, killing KT atm |
| 03:42.48 | aestil | my wife is playing, i took the night off. |
| 03:42.59 | aestil | she says the are in P5 on first attempt of the night. |
| 03:43.19 | aestil | usually that means a kill, since P5 is only slighlty harder than P1 |
| 03:44.23 | RaydenU | "I healed a rogue for 9.8k in WSG the other day and screamed 'Oh my god!!!!!' and danced around. I should have kept healing, because then he died...=p" |
| 03:44.23 | aestil | woot, we one shot. |
| 03:44.24 | RaydenU | lol |
| 03:44.31 | aestil | KT is the best fight in the game so far. so much fun to learn |
| 03:44.48 | RaydenU | i think my favorite so far is Moroes |
| 03:44.53 | RaydenU | the only one my guild has had trouble with |
| 03:44.56 | buu | aestil: Sigh. |
| 03:45.03 | buu | aestil: We couldn't even kill leo. |
| 03:45.06 | aestil | double defender, she might get chest. |
| 03:45.16 | aestil | its a tough week with holidays. |
| 03:45.27 | aestil | expectations for what you will kill need to be tailored to reduced participation. |
| 03:45.35 | aestil | i think we did 1-4 in hyjal, and then TK |
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| 03:45.41 | aestil | hyjal is astupid instance though. |
| 03:45.49 | aestil | Xinhuan: nice. |
| 03:45.54 | RaydenU | you guys like MonkeyQuest? |
| 03:46.14 | aestil | i like nQuestLog + doublewide + lightheaded + cartographer |
| 03:46.31 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, stupid broken boots.. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6482 |
| 03:46.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan |
| 03:46.34 | sag_ich_nicht | are you there? 8D |
| 03:46.37 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 03:46.37 | sag_ich_nicht | wanna do me a favor? 8D |
| 03:46.45 | RaydenU | right now i use doublewide, lightheaded, cartographer |
| 03:46.48 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 03:46.49 | RaydenU | what does nQuestLog do? |
| 03:46.55 | sag_ich_nicht | (i'd bribe you with gold, but you're already rich) |
| 03:47.03 | aestil | nquestlog is quest minion type mod |
| 03:47.08 | RaydenU | just give the gold to me then |
| 03:47.12 | dylanm | It's much like MonkeyQuest. |
| 03:47.17 | sag_ich_nicht | fix the ace options table of cooldowntimers2 for me please? <3 |
| 03:47.24 | khangg | i don't use a quest tracker |
| 03:47.29 | Xinhuan | i'm not about to fix addon errors in other addons if it doesn't affect me |
| 03:47.29 | dylanm | I like the look of it. |
| 03:47.38 | sag_ich_nicht | uncool |
| 03:47.40 | sag_ich_nicht | install it then. |
| 03:48.00 | sag_ich_nicht | then it affects you. |
| 03:49.56 | sag_ich_nicht | okay let's try the nice guy approach then |
| 03:49.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i am looking for someone willing to fix the ace options table in cooldowntimers2. anyone? :( |
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| 03:50.31 | aestil | go go gadget flow is strong. |
| 03:51.17 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r57110 10Mapster/GroupIcons.lua: Mapster: Don't flash inactive units |
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| 03:52.50 | aestil | mapster? |
| 03:53.01 | RaydenU | queuq?! |
| 03:53.06 | Xinhuan | its a new map addon based on ace3 |
| 03:53.25 | RaydenU | queue |
| 03:53.30 | RaydenU | so i tell it "pick new realm" |
| 03:53.40 | RaydenU | then it recommends me the server i'm in queue for |
| 03:53.51 | RaydenU | how about you let me pick a realm i have other characters on? |
| 03:53.57 | Xinhuan | it probably won't take over cartographer for a long while due to cartographer's extensive plugins/modules |
| 03:54.22 | Funkeh` | wth wheres the event for when you open the world map |
| 03:54.28 | Xinhuan | but i believe some of these addons are written to "showcase" ace3 ;p |
| 03:54.32 | Funkeh` | I can find the closed one but no open |
| 03:54.34 | Xinhuan | amiright? |
| 03:55.10 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 03:55.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` |
| 03:55.24 | sag_ich_nicht | would you be willing to fix the ace options table in cooldowntimers2? :( |
| 03:55.31 | Funkeh` | no |
| 03:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 03:55.51 | sag_ich_nicht | not cool :( |
| 03:55.52 | Xinhuan | whos the author |
| 03:56.13 | sag_ich_nicht | sorren |
| 03:56.22 | Xinhuan | he is on somewhere |
| 03:56.46 | sag_ich_nicht | his last commit is from uh |
| 03:56.50 | sag_ich_nicht | 19. september |
| 03:56.56 | sag_ich_nicht | since then only localisation updates |
| 03:57.12 | Xinhuan | i mean his irc isn't sorren, its something else i can't remember offhand |
| 03:57.28 | Xinhuan | something to do with a cat |
| 03:57.33 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 03:57.58 | Funkeh` | ~seen a_stray_cat |
| 03:57.59 | purl | Funkeh`: i haven't seen 'a_stray_cat' |
| 03:58.06 | Funkeh` | something like that |
| 03:58.10 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 04:00.40 | Ellipsis | ~seen a-stray-cat |
| 04:00.41 | purl | a-stray-cat <n=stray@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 27d 2h 10m 31s ago, saying: 'it should only change it ont he one you're on'. |
| 04:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | *cough* |
| 04:01.29 | sag_ich_nicht | just a month ago. i doubt he's coming back. |
| 04:01.38 | WobWork | damn those strays |
| 04:01.43 | WobWork | I hope he wasn't run over =( |
| 04:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | probably been fed to an ATM terminal |
| 04:01.58 | Xinhuan | ~seen sorren |
| 04:01.59 | purl | i haven't seen 'sorren', Xinhuan |
| 04:02.00 | WobWork | Does that happen a lot in your place? |
| 04:02.15 | Funkeh` | WobWork, I look forward to your daily dose of cheesy comments like a wide-eyed kid at a candy store. |
| 04:02.26 | WobWork | I live but to serve! |
| 04:02.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:01] <+WobWork> Does that happen a lot in your place? <--fail, you didn't see american psycho |
| 04:03.05 | WobWork | True |
| 04:03.10 | WobWork | I missed out on that masterpiece |
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| 04:07.39 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57111 10BankItems/ (4 files): BankItems: Add a total count to the tooltip summary if more than one character has the item. |
| 04:09.20 | WobWork | Oh, |
| 04:09.22 | WobWork | TOTAL WIN |
| 04:09.24 | WobWork | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/movies.html |
| 04:09.29 | WobWork | Verne Troyer is a GNOME MAGE |
| 04:09.35 | Ellipsis | no wai |
| 04:10.39 | WobWork | WAI =) |
| 04:11.11 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 04:12.04 | Mudkipz | Planet Earth is the shit |
| 04:12.12 | Mudkipz | everyone should buy the boxset |
| 04:12.39 | Mudkipz | watching this shark kill a seal 40x slowed *_* |
| 04:12.59 | WobWork | .... |
| 04:13.00 | WobWork | http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/6/141043/902/308/418698 |
| 04:13.09 | WobWork | I'm kinda lost for words |
| 04:13.12 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 04:13.15 | Funkeh` | that was awesome |
| 04:13.31 | Gnarfoz | Mudkipz: watching it in 1080p ftw |
| 04:13.35 | WobWork | I quote: "The special port-a-john captured Bush's feces and urine and flew the waste material back to the United States in the event some enterprising foreign intelligence agency conducted a sewage pipe operation designed to trap and examine Bush's waste material." |
| 04:13.52 | Mudkipz | WobWork, http://www.glumbert.com/media/surelock |
| 04:14.04 | Mudkipz | if you're into feces, you'll find this video hilarious |
| 04:14.08 | Mudkipz | and yes it is safe |
| 04:14.14 | Mudkipz | and no it is not goatse |
| 04:14.39 | khangg | With ClassTimers..do I have to add each debuff? |
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| 04:19.13 | RaydenU | ? |
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| 04:19.20 | RaydenU | like each one individually? |
| 04:19.22 | RaydenU | no |
| 04:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 04:22.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz |
| 04:22.38 | sag_ich_nicht | you updated candydice |
| 04:22.39 | sag_ich_nicht | right |
| 04:25.09 | Gnarfoz | once |
| 04:25.27 | Gnarfoz | because it wasn't picking up on all 32 buff slots |
| 04:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i saw that. |
| 04:26.08 | sag_ich_nicht | problem is it doesn't work with all cooldowns :( |
| 04:27.19 | Gnarfoz | another problem is: 2 hours to go until class :< |
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| 04:31.32 | Zhinjio | so, I'm getting a weird error. |
| 04:31.44 | Zhinjio | I've stared for over an hour at it, and its not getting any better |
| 04:32.37 | Zhinjio | http://pastey.net/79160 |
| 04:32.56 | Zhinjio | error is "unexpected symbol near 'then' on line 3 |
| 04:33.01 | Zhinjio | wtf |
| 04:33.21 | Zhinjio | am I being completely dim? |
| 04:33.30 | bigzero | elsif should be elseif |
| 04:34.07 | bigzero | php ftl....that is php syntax for elseif, right? |
| 04:34.24 | Zhinjio | probably. I use too many languages nowadays. |
| 04:35.01 | Xinhuan | elsif |
| 04:35.03 | Xinhuan | elseif |
| 04:35.36 | bigzero | Zhinjio, what editor do you use? |
| 04:36.18 | aestil | if the next blizzard MMO isn't 'world of starcraft' ima have to kill someone. |
| 04:36.50 | WobWork | World of Diablo imo |
| 04:36.59 | WobWork | *clickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclickyclicky* |
| 04:37.15 | bigzero | Zhinjio, you should get something with syntax highlighting...helps a lot |
| 04:37.33 | kaiden | aestil, since they are making sc2 i doubt they will make wosc so soon |
| 04:37.49 | kaiden | and i imagine since diablo hasn't had a new one in so long it'll be dia blo 2 next |
| 04:37.55 | kaiden | erm... diablo mmo next |
| 04:37.56 | kaiden | :p |
| 04:38.07 | Xinhuan | WobWork: more like F5-clickclickclick-F7-clickclickclick-F2-clickclick-F7-clickclickclick |
| 04:38.10 | aestil | given that WC3 + expansion came out, and then WoW, it seems like SC2 + MMO wouldn't me crazy |
| 04:38.43 | Xinhuan | and then you spam 1-2-3-4 to drink potions from belt ;p |
| 04:40.26 | Keias | World of Rock N Roll Racing! |
| 04:40.38 | ckknight | Rock N Roll Racing is actually pretty fun |
| 04:40.42 | Keias | Hell yes it was |
| 04:40.44 | Keias | I loved that game |
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| 04:42.47 | aestil | i'm just saying. Starcraft MMO = win |
| 04:42.54 | aestil | Diablo MMO != win |
| 04:43.04 | ckknight | agreed, aestil |
| 04:43.10 | ckknight | not even sure a diablo MMO would be viable |
| 04:43.28 | ckknight | due to the one-sidedness of everyone |
| 04:43.34 | aestil | *shrugs* they are good at what they do. |
| 04:43.37 | ckknight | it's good guys vs. devil |
| 04:43.42 | aestil | they could make it work. |
| 04:43.44 | ckknight | once the devil's dead, what do you do? |
| 04:43.44 | Keias | I must've been one of the only people that hated Diablo 1&2 :( |
| 04:43.53 | aestil | it could be FFA PvP type game |
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| 04:43.58 | aestil | Keias: i hated it. |
| 04:44.01 | aestil | click to move is fail. |
| 04:44.12 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r57112 10Mapster/ (Coords.lua Mapster.lua): Mapster: Coords: Less IsInInstance() calling |
| 04:44.17 | Keias | And sadly, I never got to play Starcraft |
| 04:44.30 | Keias | (cause I was never into RTS Games) |
| 04:44.33 | aestil | you could still enjoy starcraft if you like RTS |
| 04:44.36 | aestil | ah. |
| 04:44.37 | aestil | nvm then. |
| 04:46.14 | aestil | classes in world of starcraft seem... difficult. |
| 04:46.20 | aestil | like i guess warriors would be 'tanks' |
| 04:46.28 | aestil | like, how do you get the holy trinity |
| 04:46.51 | aestil | WoW has relativly few classes. |
| 04:47.08 | aestil | i can't imagine starcraft having even nearly as many as wow. |
| 04:47.21 | aestil | unless its a paradigm shift, in which case, who knows. |
| 04:47.55 | Keias | I was actually going to try Starcraft |
| 04:48.07 | Keias | But when I saw that you can't change the resolution with it, and I only have Widescreen monitors |
| 04:48.08 | Keias | I gave up |
| 04:49.46 | aestil | yeah, i can imagine that woudl be a problem |
| 04:49.59 | aestil | its probalby still a highwater mark on 'how to make a RTS game' |
| 04:51.11 | RaydenU | ? |
| 04:51.12 | Zhinjio | ckknight: ping |
| 04:51.21 | khangg | I just had a 57 wsg, then a 50 minute AV... |
| 04:51.25 | ckknight | Zhinjio: peng |
| 04:51.27 | khangg | 57 minute* |
| 04:51.56 | Zhinjio | LibRock:AddCommListener( prefix, "GROUP" ) |
| 04:52.03 | Zhinjio | is that for party, raid or both? |
| 04:52.05 | RaydenU | aestil you could just base it off a lot of different units... |
| 04:52.17 | ckknight | party, raid, and battleground, dependent on the situation |
| 04:52.19 | RaydenU | marine, firebat, ghost |
| 04:52.27 | RaydenU | zergling, hydralist, ultralisk |
| 04:52.28 | RaydenU | i dunno |
| 04:52.29 | Zhinjio | but its adaptive, so I don't need to worry about it |
| 04:52.32 | RaydenU | it doesn't fit as nicely |
| 04:52.41 | RaydenU | i think Battlefield Starcraft would be a sweet game |
| 04:52.42 | Zhinjio | rightg? |
| 04:52.57 | aestil | RaydenU: which is why, it might be a paradigm shift, more towards eve maybe? |
| 04:53.08 | RaydenU | i wouldn't play that i do'nt think |
| 04:53.12 | aestil | i'd love a game where everyone starts off as a Marine or soemthing. |
| 04:53.15 | RaydenU | doesn't fit with starcraft though |
| 04:53.19 | RaydenU | starcraft was about the people |
| 04:53.25 | aestil | i'll play whatever blizzard shits out, i'll play it for a while at least. |
| 04:53.26 | RaydenU | just like warcraft |
| 04:53.35 | Zhinjio | tabula rasa you start as a marine |
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| 04:53.45 | WobWork | lrn2halo =P |
| 04:53.48 | RaydenU | starcraft mmo would have to be more vehicle based somehow |
| 04:53.53 | RaydenU | like vehicles were your specs |
| 04:53.55 | aestil | i'm just saying, if everyone started off at the base level, and then as you progress, via making leveling choices you become a different' class' |
| 04:54.07 | RaydenU | yeah |
| 04:54.16 | WobWork | That would be very boring for alts though |
| 04:54.20 | Zhinjio | they did one thing right, at least: clones |
| 04:54.26 | aestil | Zhinjio: yes, except, without sucking. |
| 04:54.30 | Zhinjio | right |
| 04:54.36 | RaydenU | any reason to choose my lvl 10 warrior weapon one way or another? |
| 04:54.37 | Zhinjio | wob, clones solved the alts problem |
| 04:54.39 | WobWork | how did clones work? |
| 04:54.48 | WobWork | RaydenU: No |
| 04:54.54 | Zhinjio | at each junction where you get to branch and pick a class, you can create a clone |
| 04:54.59 | WobWork | RaydenU: unless you like a certain type of weapon |
| 04:55.02 | RaydenU | they all look pretty much the same |
| 04:55.04 | Zhinjio | effectively meaning you never need to play level 1-5 again (or whatever) |
| 04:55.12 | RaydenU | how much do warriors use daggers? |
| 04:55.24 | WobWork | You can tank with a fast dagger =) |
| 04:55.28 | RaydenU | Zhinjio so it's sort of a save point? |
| 04:55.32 | Zhinjio | yes, kind of |
| 04:55.42 | Zhinjio | except you create a clone in your alt list, just before the branch. |
| 04:55.45 | RaydenU | how does rage buildup work with different speed of weapons? |
| 04:55.55 | RaydenU | is it X rage per attack? or X rage per attack per time? |
| 04:55.55 | Zhinjio | it has your same last name, and different everything else (sex, body type, hair style, etc) |
| 04:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | over time, it's about the same |
| 04:55.59 | Zhinjio | different first name |
| 04:55.59 | WobWork | damage |
| 04:56.04 | WobWork | as well |
| 04:56.11 | NightHawkTheSane | faster weapons generate less rage more often, slower weapons generate more rage less often |
| 04:56.12 | RaydenU | so it's normalized for time |
| 04:56.15 | Zhinjio | I thought that was very clever. |
| 04:56.17 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 04:56.19 | NightHawkTheSane | but given equal dps weapons, it balances out over time |
| 04:56.22 | RaydenU | ok |
| 04:56.44 | WobWork | although, with a faster weapon you can deal your 'on next attack' attacks faster |
| 04:56.46 | Zhinjio | thanks, ckknight. |
| 04:56.46 | aestil | Zhinjio: yeah, its a good idea, although, not as good as going from playing a rogue, to playing a mage |
| 04:56.47 | NightHawkTheSane | in general, tanks prefer fast weapons, while slower weapons are preferred for dsps |
| 04:56.55 | NightHawkTheSane | s/dsps/dps |
| 04:56.56 | aestil | alhough there are a few 'hours' of been there done that. |
| 04:56.57 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 04:57.08 | Zhinjio | thats true, aestil. not quite the same. |
| 04:57.09 | aestil | at a certain point the play expeirence is so vastly different... |
| 04:57.10 | WobWork | you can bleed rage faster with faster weapons than with slower |
| 04:57.23 | WobWork | s/bleed/expend/ |
| 04:57.28 | Zhinjio | they did the branching pretty intelligently. |
| 04:57.34 | Zhinjio | at each branch, you become more specialized. |
| 04:57.41 | aestil | Zhinjio: yes. |
| 04:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: yeah, which is one of the reasons they're preferred for tanks, the flip side is that your instants wont hit as hard |
| 04:57.48 | WobWork | yeah |
| 04:57.53 | aestil | i like the idea. i'd hope that for starcraft though, there is a better way. |
| 04:57.58 | aestil | i don't particualarly like it. |
| 04:58.01 | WobWork | That's why I suggested to tank with it =) |
| 04:58.10 | Zhinjio | yeah, just throwing it out there. wasn't meaning to derail what y'all were talking about |
| 04:58.20 | WobWork | Not like we were talking about anything important =P |
| 04:58.23 | Zhinjio | heheheee |
| 04:58.26 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: yeah, mentioned it more for RaydenU's benefit :{ |
| 04:58.31 | NightHawkTheSane | er :P |
| 04:58.33 | WobWork | in this channel the tangents are often more interesting =) |
| 04:58.39 | Zhinjio | is that a moustache smilie? |
| 04:58.40 | RaydenU | do warriors use different sets of spells for different stances? |
| 04:58.48 | RaydenU | or just a mix of most of them? |
| 04:58.50 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:58.53 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: well, yes and no |
| 04:58.53 | RaydenU | like can i set up a prot stance bar? |
| 04:59.00 | WobWork | Some skills are stance dependant |
| 04:59.03 | NightHawkTheSane | some abilities are limited by what stance you can use them in |
| 04:59.05 | aestil | Zhinjio: you didn't derail |
| 04:59.15 | WobWork | Zhinjio: You just shunted |
| 04:59.24 | Zhinjio | ok, now I've reached a turning point in my plugin. I need to handle loot evnts. |
| 04:59.31 | Zhinjio | time for some reading |
| 05:01.15 | aestil | can i disable nagle's algorithm with dd-wrt? |
| 05:01.18 | WobWork | PS I hate word HTML |
| 05:01.27 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone hates word |
| 05:01.37 | WobWork | word |
| 05:01.50 | Zhinjio | I think if I had to use word, I'd switch careers to flipping burgers. |
| 05:01.55 | RaydenU | everyone hates word until they use OpenOffice |
| 05:02.14 | WobWork | Then they hate open office? |
| 05:02.28 | WobWork | Buzzword is kinda cool |
| 05:02.31 | RaydenU | open office's doc editor isn't as nice as word |
| 05:02.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I stick with text files. |
| 05:02.37 | WobWork | for a collaborative online document thingie |
| 05:02.54 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r57113 10Mapster/ (Libs/ Mapster.toc embeds.xml): Mapster: setup embeds |
| 05:03.03 | Zhinjio | its not so much using Word that is bad. It isn't inherently bad as a document publishing tool. It sucks extreme ass as an HTML tool. |
| 05:03.04 | aestil | anyone familiar with dd-wrt to know if nagle's algorithm is something i can enable/disable from the control panel? |
| 05:03.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Zhinjio: eh, even as a document publishing tool it's kludgy and bloated. |
| 05:03.52 | Zhinjio | no argument. |
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| 05:04.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I got so fed up with writing things in word, i learned latex. >< |
| 05:04.24 | Zhinjio | unless I'm publishing something for a work contract that uses it as the corporate standard, I never use it. |
| 05:04.36 | WobWork | latex is masochistic |
| 05:04.42 | Herio | LaTeX is amazing |
| 05:04.49 | Herio | it's very powerful |
| 05:04.58 | NightHawkTheSane | latex -is- kind of masochistic. but it's pretty powerful and not terribly complex for doing basic document work |
| 05:04.58 | RaydenU | latex was too complicated for what i was doing |
| 05:05.01 | RaydenU | so i never learned it |
| 05:05.12 | RaydenU | at least i thought it was too complex |
| 05:05.30 | Herio | it's not that complicated, not that I felt |
| 05:05.36 | Herio | there is a learing curve |
| 05:05.38 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, the most complex thing about latex is making sure your syntax is correct |
| 05:05.59 | Herio | and finding out how to do something |
| 05:06.02 | NightHawkTheSane | well, until you start getting into table placement. now -that- is truely masochistic |
| 05:06.12 | Herio | like make "hatted" characters |
| 05:06.26 | RaydenU | is the chance for sunder to hit based on your weapon skill? |
| 05:06.33 | Zhinjio | well, I can't claim innocence from masochism. I still use vi and up until about a year ago, povray |
| 05:06.43 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenU: like any physical attack, yes, partially |
| 05:06.52 | RaydenU | cause i'm missing more than 50% |
| 05:06.55 | Zhinjio | slackware linux is a kind of masochism, but ... there you go. *shrug* |
| 05:06.58 | RaydenU | but i just started levelign my dagger skill |
| 05:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, vi's a good skill to have in general, its not that bad |
| 05:07.30 | RaydenU | lol |
| 05:07.39 | Herio | vi is good if you learn to use it effectively |
| 05:07.39 | RaydenU | i was taking on something 3 levels above me to train my weapon |
| 05:07.42 | RaydenU | no wonder i was dying |
| 05:07.46 | RaydenU | never used vi, just emacs |
| 05:07.52 | Zhinjio | well, right. |
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| 05:08.06 | Zhinjio | thats the classic divisor. |
| 05:08.22 | RaydenU | false |
| 05:08.24 | RaydenU | i used vi once |
| 05:08.29 | RaydenU | i tried to quit and went wtf? |
| 05:08.32 | RaydenU | then i never used it again |
| 05:08.36 | Herio | LOL |
| 05:08.56 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i did the same thing with emacs. |
| 05:08.56 | Zhinjio | right above chocolate/vanilla and christianity/muslim in the Grand World Debates(tm) |
| 05:10.20 | RaydenU | above, as in more important? |
| 05:10.23 | RaydenU | it's definitely a religious debate |
| 05:10.44 | Zhinjio | I think perhaps even qualifying my statement might incite an argument, so I'll refrain. |
| 05:10.52 | RaydenU | heh |
| 05:10.54 | Zhinjio | interpret as you see fit. |
| 05:11.01 | RaydenU | all my coding is on windows these days so not much emacs |
| 05:11.06 | RaydenU | was good for writing scheme though |
| 05:11.11 | WobWork | Sunder is a 'on next attack' skill, no? |
| 05:11.17 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: no, it's instant |
| 05:11.20 | RaydenU | no... |
| 05:11.20 | WobWork | ah |
| 05:11.28 | WobWork | I get confused at times |
| 05:11.47 | WobWork | PS <3 Vim |
| 05:11.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i <3 your mom's vim. |
| 05:11.57 | aestil | WobWork: also HS doesn't trigger GCD |
| 05:12.07 | aestil | stupid nagle and ack timing shit. |
| 05:12.07 | Zhinjio | only raid leaders can change loot method/loot master, right? RAs can't, and LM's can't? |
| 05:12.09 | aestil | i hate life. |
| 05:12.18 | WobWork | ragepurge? |
| 05:13.06 | WobWork | could you, essentially use a macro with /cast sunder /stopcasting /cast sunder /stopcasting ? |
| 05:13.15 | RaydenU | sunder has a cooldown |
| 05:13.15 | WobWork | oh HS |
| 05:13.16 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 05:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | sunder triggers gcd |
| 05:13.20 | WobWork | totally misread |
| 05:13.26 | NightHawkTheSane | and you wouldn't need a /stopcasting for HS |
| 05:13.28 | WobWork | I'm really tired =P |
| 05:13.33 | WobWork | it's a next on hit |
| 05:13.39 | RaydenU | what? |
| 05:13.43 | WobWork | HS |
| 05:13.49 | WobWork | it triggers on next hit |
| 05:13.50 | RaydenU | oh yeah |
| 05:13.57 | RaydenU | i was thinking hearth stone :D |
| 05:14.00 | aestil | yeah, i'm confused, but my point was you use HS to dump rage in between shield slams and devestates/revenges/shieldblocks |
| 05:14.12 | aestil | HS not taking GCD means you use whenever you have too muhc rage. |
| 05:14.21 | WobWork | I like how shieldblock feeds into revenge |
| 05:14.34 | WobWork | it's nice and cycley |
| 05:14.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i think that's the point ;) |
| 05:14.50 | WobWork | well yes |
| 05:15.01 | RaydenU | COMBO! |
| 05:15.01 | WobWork | but doesn't detract from the niceness =P |
| 05:15.05 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 05:16.04 | aestil | i will pay anyone here 100 dollars to finish typing this report. |
| 05:16.24 | aestil | i may offer some sort of sexual encounter as well, it depends on the sex of the person who volunteers |
| 05:16.46 | RaydenU | is it a paper on the advancements of feminism? |
| 05:17.04 | RaydenU | unfortunately that's only funny if you are female and offering sexual services |
| 05:17.25 | WobWork | aestil never said who or what was doing the sexual encounter |
| 05:17.32 | WobWork | could be a pet dog |
| 05:17.57 | aestil | its an appraisal report of a 3 unit residential property |
| 05:18.04 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: don't talk about aestil's mom like that |
| 05:21.31 | NightHawkTheSane | G'kar's totally my hero. |
| 05:21.36 | aestil | i hate this stupid appraisal |
| 05:21.39 | Zhinjio | ok, just tested. loot functions of any kind are reserved for party/raid leader. |
| 05:21.45 | RaydenU | i gotta figure out which mod is asking me to verify my flight paths... |
| 05:21.46 | Zhinjio | even the ML can't change loot threshhold |
| 05:21.51 | RaydenU | anyone else getting that recently? |
| 05:23.38 | Kemayo | I am finally at a point where I can appreciate the awesomeness of Ogri'lazy! |
| 05:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: is it not great. |
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| 05:24.16 | Kemayo | I didn't realize... |
| 05:24.42 | Zhinjio | ahhahaha. Kemayo: yeah. dig it. |
| 05:24.58 | NightHawkTheSane | "What are you so worried about it. We went up against the entire earth alliance, and two carrier groups." "Yeah, but this is the post office, this could get us in real trouble." |
| 05:25.00 | Zhinjio | its easy to dismiss as silly until you want to be lazy. |
| 05:25.19 | Zhinjio | which is pretty much every single time you do that after the first time. |
| 05:25.27 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: I thought that bit was a bit too... cutesy. |
| 05:26.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: eh, it's amusing, and lighthearted compared to the rest of the recent plot. :P |
| 05:27.10 | Kemayo | I will grant that. |
| 05:27.59 | Kemayo | I wouldn't have complained at all if it had happened in the first two seasons. It just felt out of place because of the darker tone in three. |
| 05:32.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, arguably so. But I think it's an appropriate break in the end-of-the-world situations, especially post severed dreams. |
| 05:32.31 | NightHawkTheSane | suppose it's a matter of opinion, though |
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| 05:51.50 | Zhinjio | are any of y'all interested in helping alpha/beta test my plugin? (Suicide Kings Geo) |
| 05:52.03 | Zhinjio | its getting to the point where some other pairs of eyes would be useful |
| 05:52.27 | Zhinjio | I also need translators, but that can wait awhile. |
| 05:52.34 | Zhinjio | I think I have german/french covered. |
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| 05:54.04 | sedai| | hi guys |
| 05:54.15 | sedai| | whats a good mod to replace hitsmode? |
| 05:54.32 | sedai| | hitsmode is great but it doesnt seem to get any update-love |
| 05:55.35 | NightHawkTheSane | simplecombatlog works nicely |
| 05:56.19 | sedai| | i was hoping to find something that allowed me to seperate different types of combat into their own windows |
| 05:56.44 | sedai| | example: incoming damage, in one chat window |
| 05:56.51 | sedai| | outgoing damage , in another chat window |
| 05:57.19 | sedai| | and another window for friendly damage and another for enemy damage |
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| 05:59.50 | sedai| | guess i dont want a "simple" combat log |
| 06:00.24 | sedai| | isnt there a combat log in the wowace? |
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| 06:01.18 | aestil | how easy is it to use a PS3 as like, a HTC? |
| 06:01.46 | aestil | sedai|: simplecombat log + making a few different chat panes will do that. |
| 06:01.58 | aestil | simple combat log = hitsmode |
| 06:02.11 | aestil | anyone watching chuck? |
| 06:02.16 | Zhinjio | you might as well use parrot at that point, just that the windows are positioned around the screen |
| 06:02.34 | Zhinjio | and, well, not persistent. |
| 06:02.37 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 06:12.01 | sedai| | what is a good addon to reference profession stuff |
| 06:12.16 | sedai| | talismonger? |
| 06:12.42 | sedai| | or is that just gathering? |
| 06:13.11 | sedai| | i want something to organize my blacksmithing/engineering/alchemy professions |
| 06:15.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: bankitems' search needs to provide links, not just raw text. >< |
| 06:16.01 | aestil | wtf, saber lash: 80000 dmg spread over 3 targets? |
| 06:16.10 | aestil | is the 80k dmg before plate/feral druid mitigation? |
| 06:16.21 | Shadowed | it's pretty much always before mitigation |
| 06:16.57 | aestil | ok. |
| 06:17.13 | aestil | i hate resistance fights. |
| 06:17.54 | Herio | meh |
| 06:17.58 | Herio | resist isn't that hard |
| 06:18.04 | aestil | its just stupid. |
| 06:18.11 | Herio | what fight? |
| 06:18.13 | aestil | coordination checks are a lot more interesting. |
| 06:18.26 | aestil | archimonde > mother for that reason |
| 06:18.27 | aestil | Mother |
| 06:18.45 | Herio | cause farming 20 primal shadows = hard? o.o |
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| 06:19.19 | Herio | the fights that are hard are the retard checks |
| 06:19.31 | Herio | cause then you have to kick the retards and they get all butthurt about it |
| 06:20.24 | aestil | i feel no pity for them? |
| 06:20.31 | aestil | farming primal shadows isn't hard. |
| 06:20.37 | aestil | i'm nto sure that i ever said it was hard. |
| 06:20.43 | Herio | just cause you don't doesn't mean it's drama =P |
| 06:20.47 | aestil | let me read back what i wrote. |
| 06:20.50 | thul | the hard fights are those that i can't go afk on :-( |
| 06:20.51 | Herio | *it isn't |
| 06:20.57 | aestil | drama is handled with /gkicks in my guild. |
| 06:21.09 | aestil | we last had 'drama' at mag |
| 06:21.15 | Herio | gkicks are drama |
| 06:21.28 | aestil | so yeah, around 6 months ago, we had 1 case of drama |
| 06:21.46 | aestil | and i just said i hate resist checks, i didn't say they were hard. |
| 06:22.01 | nico_ | Hi, i am using german client and have a problem with the addon Tradeskill Info. if i mouseover my new receip (cooking) i take a lot of chatmessages: "TSI: Found unknown source Cw" |
| 06:22.34 | Herio | there's a lot more to hate then a little farming... like devine shield taking effect immediately, while tears of elune do not |
| 06:22.45 | Herio | tears of the goddess rather |
| 06:24.07 | sedai| | could someone suggest a crafting addon? |
| 06:24.26 | Herio | with what sort of features? |
| 06:25.18 | sedai| | displaying recipies in a better/different way than blizzard's gui does |
| 06:25.25 | aestil | sedai|: skillet |
| 06:25.36 | sedai| | awesome, ill give it a try |
| 06:25.37 | aestil | Herio: i don't hate the farming either |
| 06:25.42 | aestil | i don't like resist fights. |
| 06:25.44 | aestil | they are stupid. |
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| 06:25.53 | Herio | why? |
| 06:26.17 | aestil | because of how artificial they are. |
| 06:26.30 | aestil | its very much a check to see whether you've farmed the previous content enough. |
| 06:26.43 | aestil | an entire raid needing to be in resist gear, its just stupid. |
| 06:27.03 | aestil | weak encounter design imo. |
| 06:27.25 | Herio | would you rather fiery runes, then? =P |
| 06:27.35 | aestil | what? |
| 06:27.55 | Herio | the way MC made sure that you farmed before you killed rag =P |
| 06:28.02 | aestil | no. |
| 06:28.10 | NightHawkTheSane | his point is that resist fights exist primarly to slow progression |
| 06:28.26 | aestil | fuck i'm not talkign to you anymore since you're clearly stuck with your ass in your anus. |
| 06:28.54 | Herio | lol |
| 06:28.57 | aestil | i just got through saying i don't like resist fights, and you bring up rag? |
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| 06:29.25 | Herio | rag wasn't really a resist fight |
| 06:29.35 | Herio | except the tank, iirc |
| 06:29.59 | aestil | somewhat analgous to hydross, and yet, hydross was a much more intersting fight. |
| 06:29.59 | Herio | I certainly never wore resist gear for him |
| 06:30.03 | NightHawkTheSane | if you were just hitting it, you needed everyone with a certain base resist |
| 06:30.11 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: i was just about to type that. |
| 06:30.21 | aestil | Herio: apparently you joined a guild with rag on farm |
| 06:30.28 | Codayus | Yes, Rag was a resist fight for guilds that were properly geared for the encounter. |
| 06:30.35 | aestil | initial rag kills had eveyrone in some FR + the fire resist pots. |
| 06:30.38 | Codayus | Not as bad as the lava packs leading to him though... |
| 06:30.44 | Herio | I started raiding shortly after he was on farm |
| 06:30.54 | Herio | and while we were working on emps, we reformed |
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| 06:31.17 | Herio | our raid two killed him without anyone wearing any inordinate amount of FR gear |
| 06:31.43 | Herio | sans the tank, of course |
| 06:32.20 | sedai| | omg |
| 06:32.39 | sedai| | blizzard needs to impliment skillet |
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| 06:32.41 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 06:32.41 | CIA-8 | - required deps -> optional deps, add cartographer; handle installations |
| 06:32.41 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.41 | CIA-8 | (thx OrionShock) |
| 06:33.02 | sedai| | why not have a resizeable skill window?! |
| 06:33.41 | Codayus | Near the end, we killed him with just tanks in max FR, but I think 80%+ wore some. |
| 06:33.50 | sedai| | is there a skillet-like mod for quests? |
| 06:34.02 | Herio | did you ever kill rag pre-sons like that? |
| 06:34.03 | Codayus | Which we got away with mostly because of our gear... |
| 06:34.12 | Codayus | Herio: Never. We got close a couple times. |
| 06:34.29 | Codayus | Our pre-sons attempts had no FR. |
| 06:34.35 | Codayus | Just made life harder, and still didn't make it. |
| 06:34.59 | Herio | bad healers imo o.o |
| 06:35.02 | Herio | feral healers? |
| 06:35.28 | aestil | are we really having a convseration epeening over killing rag pre sons like its at all relevant at this point? |
| 06:36.00 | Herio | if your guild still has feral healers, I think it's important |
| 06:36.10 | Arrowmaster | rag was just a stupid fight |
| 06:36.12 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: totally |
| 06:36.23 | Arrowmaster | i lost count of the number of times i pulled aggro and died as ranged |
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| 06:37.07 | Arrowmaster | and by that i mean getting knocked into the air into melee range and 1shotted |
| 06:37.30 | aestil | Herio: Where did you see someone say they had feral healers? |
| 06:37.49 | sedai| | My Bindings is borked |
| 06:38.03 | Herio | it's probably why you'd need FR on rag, ofc |
| 06:38.12 | Arrowmaster | MyBindings is for wow 1.x |
| 06:38.18 | Codayus | No, we didn't have feral healers, and if we had it wouldn't be relevant because the issue was we didn't have enough *DPS*. |
| 06:38.28 | Codayus | A pre-sons kill is a race. |
| 06:38.36 | sedai| | [2007/12/17 23:37:37-740-x1]: myBindings2-2.1.51953\myBindings2.lua:392: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil)myBindings2-2.1.51953\myBindings2.lua:392: in function `ExpandCollapseHeadings'myBindings2-2.1.51953\myBindings2.lua:1087: in function <Interface\AddOns\myBindings2\myBindings2.lua:1078> |
| 06:38.37 | sedai| | ok |
| 06:38.52 | Herio | you said not wearing FR made it harder... indication of poor healing o.o |
| 06:38.59 | Arrowmaster | oh myBindings2 |
| 06:39.02 | Arrowmaster | no clue on that one |
| 06:39.06 | sedai| | :( |
| 06:39.13 | Codayus | Of course it makes it harder, it increases the inwards DPS on the raid. |
| 06:39.40 | Arrowmaster | but also increases the outward DPS of the raid |
| 06:40.04 | Codayus | Right. And as I said, when we tried, it didn't increase it ENOUGH, and otherwise made stuff harder. |
| 06:40.08 | Arrowmaster | since level 60 FR gear had complete trash for dps stats |
| 06:40.18 | Herio | wait, were you healing it? =P |
| 06:40.58 | Arrowmaster | now firemaw, that was a fun FR fight |
| 06:41.04 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: Not for me. |
| 06:41.10 | Codayus | <--- Healer. Back then. |
| 06:41.18 | Codayus | FR? Firemaw? Wut? |
| 06:41.24 | Herio | I stacked a lot of FR on that fight as a lock... I was really lazy lol |
| 06:41.28 | Arrowmaster | i played russian roulet on firemaw |
| 06:41.35 | Herio | meant I never had to move out |
| 06:41.44 | Arrowmaster | i think my max was 15 stacks on the debuff |
| 06:41.58 | Arrowmaster | and lived |
| 06:42.18 | Herio | with my FR gear I always dropped the stack before 4, I think |
| 06:42.22 | Arrowmaster | i almost always lived it was just a matter of how long i dared to stay in |
| 06:44.51 | Codayus | As a healer, I didn't wear FR... |
| 06:44.55 | Codayus | Didn't get any debuffs... |
| 06:44.58 | Codayus | Didn't move. |
| 06:45.04 | Codayus | Let's hear it for silly LoS tricks. |
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| 06:52.52 | Arrowmaster | you know what would be cool, videos of all previous raid encounters from flying gm pov using original strats developed by the encounter designers to defeat them |
| 06:53.56 | Arrowmaster | because you know theres probably a lot where the encounter designers were going 'wtf i didnt intent for that' after reading player strats |
| 06:55.52 | Orionshock | that would be awsome |
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| 07:23.53 | Orionshock | with CloseSpecialWindows() what's the point in returning 1? |
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| 08:26.14 | Zhinjio | someone on here was describing a function calling technique that was something I hadn't heard of before. |
| 08:26.19 | Zhinjio | LUA, I believe, supports it. |
| 08:26.20 | krka | Zhinjio: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 08:27.07 | Zhinjio | um. yeah. anyway, it had to do with sort of front-loading the most commonly called parameters with return results almost right in the call stack, saving you the trouble of having to do the whole function setup and such |
| 08:27.16 | Zhinjio | and I can't for the life of me remember what that was called. |
| 08:27.19 | Zhinjio | and I wanted to. |
| 08:27.26 | Zhinjio | I'm getting too freaking old. |
| 08:27.45 | lhunath | it's time to turn on IRC logs, then. |
| 08:27.54 | Zhinjio | it was almost like a base case for recursion, only, it wasn't necessarily for a recursive call |
| 08:28.05 | Zhinjio | yeah, *sigh* |
| 08:28.05 | lhunath | and read 'man grep'. I'd have been lost a long time without it. |
| 08:28.25 | Zhinjio | grep? I know grep. |
| 08:28.33 | lhunath | that helps. |
| 08:28.33 | Zhinjio | I've been a sysadmin for 15 years. |
| 08:28.43 | Zhinjio | among other things |
| 08:28.45 | lhunath | intreguing. |
| 08:29.16 | lhunath | s/long time/long time ago/ |
| 08:29.24 | Nargiddley | Zhinjio, tail recursion ? |
| 08:29.40 | Zhinjio | nah, that I know. |
| 08:30.09 | Zhinjio | It was startling to me because it was a programming technique (or at least, a technique for calling/defining functions) that I'd never heard of before. |
| 08:30.21 | Zhinjio | which, ... well, its quite rare that that happens anymore in programming anyway |
| 08:31.26 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 08:31.38 | Zhinjio | not even wikipedia or google are helping me. which means I'm not searching well |
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| 08:33.24 | Zhinjio | sort of caching some return values... hmm, maybe thats a good search term |
| 08:33.32 | Nargiddley | I can't think of anything if its not proper tail calls :/ |
| 08:34.12 | Zhinjio | well, its not necessarily used for recursion. |
| 08:34.33 | Zhinjio | gimme a few minutes, I think I'm narrowing in on it. |
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| 08:35.15 | Zhinjio | GOT IT! |
| 08:35.17 | Zhinjio | oh man. |
| 08:35.19 | Zhinjio | Memoization |
| 08:35.46 | Zhinjio | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoization |
| 08:36.07 | Nargiddley | meta table hax then i'm guessing |
| 08:36.08 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r57121 10Mapster/GroupIcons.lua: Mapster: GroupIcons: move the flash check |
| 08:37.35 | Nargiddley | I dont think thats a feature of the language as such, meta tables can just be an interesting way of doing it |
| 08:37.44 | Zhinjio | yes. |
| 08:37.56 | Zhinjio | honestly, I was just trying to remember the concept, not its relationship to lua. |
| 08:38.26 | Zhinjio | and now I'm going to blog about it so that I can clear my memory buffer and commit it to permanent external storage |
| 08:38.41 | Nargiddley | ah, you mentioning the call stack made me think it was internal voodoo |
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| 08:48.46 | Xinhuan | ok who's in charge of acecomm here? |
| 08:49.19 | Xinhuan | major bug in acecomm :) |
| 08:49.30 | Orionshock | lol another one? |
| 08:49.33 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:49.51 | nevcairiel | new since yesterday by any chance? |
| 08:49.58 | Xinhuan | a logic one that started occuring in 2.3 after blizzard changed the "battle map" to be usable anywhere |
| 08:50.05 | Xinhuan | local function GetCurrentGroupDistribution() |
| 08:50.05 | Xinhuan | if MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status == "active" then |
| 08:50.05 | Xinhuan | return "BATTLEGROUND" |
| 08:50.06 | Orionshock | ?? |
| 08:50.14 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 08:50.29 | Xinhuan | if you have the zone map enabled, you basically stop sending threat messages |
| 08:50.35 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 08:50.39 | kadrahil | o_o |
| 08:50.40 | Xinhuan | because it tries to send it to "BATTLEGROUND" |
| 08:50.42 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 08:50.43 | Xinhuan | very insidius |
| 08:50.53 | nevcairiel | that should just check for select(2, IsInInstance()) == "pvp" |
| 08:50.56 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 08:51.11 | Xinhuan | it only took 1 hour to find this bug |
| 08:51.17 | Orionshock | iirc IsInInstance() is a recent addition to the API no? |
| 08:51.24 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 08:51.29 | nevcairiel | the second return value might |
| 08:51.46 | nevcairiel | anyway, ping ckknight about it |
| 08:52.00 | MoonWolf | why even send threat values to battleground... ? |
| 08:52.05 | Xinhuan | for AV |
| 08:52.13 | kadrahil | all these av and eots marks in my mailbox that i can't use ;( |
| 08:52.16 | kadrahil | maxed out |
| 08:52.23 | kadrahil | i could buy more combat mana pots |
| 08:52.36 | MoonWolf | free pots, don't complain |
| 08:52.38 | nevcairiel | the problem is, that you could have the map open after leaving a battleground |
| 08:52.45 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 08:52.50 | nevcairiel | and you still dont send threat messages .P |
| 08:52.54 | Zhinjio | ok, bedtime. Peace, y'all. |
| 08:53.06 | Xinhuan | and tekMapEnhancer specifically sets that minimap.active to true |
| 08:53.14 | Xinhuan | to "active" that is |
| 08:55.46 | Orionshock | WowWiki = http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=API_IsInInstance&diff=382798&oldid=373496 (API added by Arrowmaster originally |
| 09:00.14 | Orionshock | btw Ace3 pplz, that new safe call function ya'll put in... i can feel the lag :P |
| 09:00.37 | sedai| | heh |
| 09:00.59 | nevcairiel | nah its fast |
| 09:01.04 | kadrahil | HAHAHA |
| 09:01.08 | nevcairiel | go and profile it if you want :P |
| 09:01.08 | kadrahil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DthcflNFKDo |
| 09:01.12 | kadrahil | vern troyer - gnome mage |
| 09:01.23 | kadrahil | awesome |
| 09:01.24 | Orionshock | :P nevcairiel don't care that much |
| 09:02.00 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 09:02.30 | nevcairiel | or bug the lua people to implement the proposed changes to xpcall to allow passing paramters to the function |
| 09:04.12 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: we all know that it would take not only that but poking blizzard in the eye many many many times to get them to upgrade again |
| 09:04.24 | nevcairiel | i know :P |
| 09:08.21 | Arrowmaster | fyi IsInInstance() was added in 2.x i think or the 2nd return was |
| 09:08.32 | Xinhuan | there i posted it |
| 09:08.33 | kadrahil | that's crappy, macaceupdater suddenyl doesn't work |
| 09:08.34 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10102.msg166162#msg166162 |
| 09:08.43 | kadrahil | crashes while it's loading |
| 09:08.53 | Xinhuan | someone else can fix it, i don't really want to checkout ace2 |
| 09:09.05 | Arrowmaster | and it was very funny because when i was originally doing the testing to figure out the returns to add that wiki page it was extremely bad |
| 09:09.34 | Arrowmaster | i think doing an unranked arena at lvl 60 it returned 1, "none" for me |
| 09:09.37 | CIA-8 | 03nargiddley * r57122 10Baggins/embeds.xml: Baggins: Fix Waterfall Reference in embeds.xml |
| 09:09.58 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you cannot commit to ace2 anyway =P |
| 09:10.04 | Xinhuan | thought so ;p |
| 09:10.10 | kadrahil | owned :( |
| 09:10.20 | nevcairiel | neither can i, so i guess we'll have to bug more people |
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| 09:11.16 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: /slap |
| 09:11.31 | ckknight | ? |
| 09:11.37 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10102.msg166162#msg166162 |
| 09:12.03 | Arrowmaster | me > Xinhuan and nevcairiel at getting bugs fixed |
| 09:12.17 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:12.34 | ckknight | yea, you don't slap a man |
| 09:13.11 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsInInstance |
| 09:13.16 | Xinhuan | for reference |
| 09:13.21 | Xinhuan | if you're making the fix |
| 09:13.52 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if wowwiki has a page for UnitInParty |
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| 09:14.46 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: you don't have access to ace2 in the trunk? |
| 09:14.51 | Orionshock | i would think u of all ppl would ? |
| 09:15.02 | nevcairiel | i never cared to ask for it :P |
| 09:19.25 | Tekkub | meh |
| 09:19.34 | Xinhuan | tekMapEnhancer breaks Omen ;p |
| 09:19.43 | Tekkub | totally not my fault |
| 09:19.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:19.56 | Xinhuan | lol, but it is the least expected addon to do so |
| 09:20.10 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 09:20.54 | Xinhuan | tekMapEnhancer.lua:7: MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status = "active" |
| 09:20.58 | Xinhuan | that's why it breaks |
| 09:21.07 | kadrahil | This forum is currently undergoing maintenance, please check back at a later time. |
| 09:21.10 | Tekkub | moo? |
| 09:21.22 | Xinhuan | Tekkub: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6419.msg166161#msg166161 |
| 09:21.23 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 09:22.08 | Arrowmaster | hmm i wonder what i can blame that little spike of mirc using all my cpu usage on |
| 09:22.11 | Arrowmaster | but anyway |
| 09:22.25 | kadrahil | eww mirc |
| 09:22.26 | Arrowmaster | wasnt there a minimap skinning addon that was breaking threat-1.0? |
| 09:22.30 | Xinhuan | maybe you log channels and its flushing the cache? |
| 09:22.36 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 09:22.41 | Arrowmaster | my /logs dir is a few gigs |
| 09:22.49 | Xinhuan | thats probably it |
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| 09:31.54 | NeoTron | so does illidan reset aggro when he starts panting or after he turns into a demon? |
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| 09:33.49 | Arrowmaster | lol i found a possible bug in the default ui |
| 09:34.19 | Arrowmaster | ToggleWorldStateScoreFrame() in WorldStateFrame.lua line 697 |
| 09:35.05 | Arrowmaster | its checking MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status == "active" to see if it should ShowUIPanel(WorldStateScoreFrame) |
| 09:35.20 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 09:35.21 | Xinhuan | that doesn't matter Arrowmaster |
| 09:35.25 | Arrowmaster | no wait |
| 09:35.27 | Arrowmaster | that does |
| 09:35.37 | Xinhuan | because WorldStateScoreFrame's onshow checks to see if its in a bg? |
| 09:35.51 | Arrowmaster | because ive gotten interface action blocked messages when the worldstatescoreframe has poped up at the end of a bg |
| 09:35.59 | Arrowmaster | TAINT! |
| 09:36.06 | Arrowmaster | ha |
| 09:36.11 | |Kev| | kadrahil: what's up? |
| 09:36.31 | |Kev| | oh, right |
| 09:36.39 | |Kev| | it'll crash on load if the rss parser can't access the feed |
| 09:36.56 | Arrowmaster | bah forums are down |
| 09:37.13 | nevcairiel | the taint is because of teks mod |
| 09:37.16 | nevcairiel | not the ui code :P |
| 09:37.46 | Arrowmaster | i dont use teks mod and ive gotten an error before when thats poped up |
| 09:37.57 | nevcairiel | some other mod modifiying the active var |
| 09:38.15 | Arrowmaster | but really theres a lot better way of doing that bit of code |
| 09:38.17 | nevcairiel | man i shouldnt fight and type |
| 09:38.38 | CIA-8 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r57123 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: ACE-100 - Show usage in tooltip for type = 'input' |
| 09:39.19 | Xinhuan | you could have used my macro before |
| 09:39.46 | Xinhuan | which was /script UIParentLoadAddOn("Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap"); MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status = "active"; BattlefieldMinimap:Show(); |
| 09:39.59 | kadrahil | my hearthstone has a 50 day cooldown |
| 09:40.00 | kadrahil | :( |
| 09:40.11 | kadrahil | (12 minutes) |
| 09:40.15 | Xinhuan | which was the method to show the zone map in any zone before patch 2.3 |
| 09:41.00 | Xinhuan | "The Armory is currently undergoing maintenance. Please check back later." da fuk |
| 09:41.46 | nevcairiel | i still think that "Hey i cannot do X because it taints the UI, please change the UI." is not a valid argument, even if the change here is really easy. |
| 09:42.04 | |Pixel| | the US armory, right ? |
| 09:42.14 | kadrahil | pvp boots in 2 days :o |
| 09:42.42 | kadrahil | honor grinding isn't half bad once i just give up and do it |
| 09:42.53 | kadrahil | 5k a day is about what i can handle |
| 09:42.59 | kadrahil | why am i rambling |
| 09:43.03 | Stanzilla | I've been grinding for 1 week now |
| 09:43.08 | Stanzilla | and it really gets annoying |
| 09:43.15 | kadrahil | cool |
| 09:43.20 | kadrahil | i'm just trying to get honor capped every 2 weeks |
| 09:43.38 | kadrahil | i have 100 av and eots marks, i'm low on ab and wsg though :( |
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| 09:44.13 | nevcairiel | Plus, 2.3.2 has new UIPanel code, and the taint will probably not affect it anymore |
| 09:44.13 | Stanzilla | 100 av is so not a problem |
| 09:44.13 | Arrowmaster | im at 100 ab marks |
| 09:44.21 | Stanzilla | I got like 30 in the mailbox |
| 09:44.24 | Stanzilla | and 100 in the inv |
| 09:44.39 | Stanzilla | warsong is the evil |
| 09:45.15 | Stanzilla | alliance never wins it |
| 09:45.15 | nevcairiel | get a group :P |
| 09:45.33 | Stanzilla | hm yeah |
| 09:45.35 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i still think the argument stands since checking MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status == "active" is a hacky way of detecting if the player is in a battleground from before we got IsInInstance() |
| 09:45.44 | Stanzilla | my whole guild is farming things all the time |
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| 09:48.04 | nevcairiel | any word on 2.3.2 in US anyway? |
| 09:51.41 | Xinhuan | 8 hour maintenance |
| 09:51.53 | Xinhuan | so its likely to be a patch, but evidence points otherwise from ptr |
| 09:53.33 | nevcairiel | i hope its the patch |
| 09:54.12 | Xinhuan | gonna go out and watch a movie in 30 min anyway |
| 09:56.25 | Stanzilla | "out"? |
| 09:56.29 | Stanzilla | you mean outland, right? :P |
| 09:57.10 | Xinhuan | watching Warlords ;p |
| 09:57.16 | Xinhuan | already booked tickets |
| 09:57.27 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: question, why would you need to set MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status == "active" to show the BattlefieldMinimap anyway? |
| 09:57.50 | Xinhuan | because the onupdate code checks for its status i think, iirc |
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| 09:57.58 | Xinhuan | verify that for me ;p |
| 09:58.11 | Ozguli | can't bind shift/ctrl/alt+m3 using bartender, bongos does that |
| 09:58.12 | Ellipsis | why does it matter? that macro is useless now anyway :P |
| 09:58.23 | Xinhuan | its still useful |
| 09:58.30 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: perty sure it doesnt |
| 09:58.33 | Xinhuan | i don't have to press M and click the dropdown to show it |
| 09:58.36 | Ellipsis | default UI does it though |
| 09:58.46 | Xinhuan | i remember its needed somewhere |
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| 09:58.58 | Xinhuan | or i wouldnt have needed to set .status to active |
| 09:58.58 | Ellipsis | you can set a keybinding or just enable it all the time... |
| 09:59.16 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: it's used alot of places like WorldStateAlwaysUp.lua iirc |
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| 09:59.54 | Arrowmaster | findstr /i /n /s "MiniMapBattlefieldFrame" *.lua *.xml *.toc, ran on downloaded copy of entire 2.3.0 framexml and addons dir |
| 10:00.22 | Xinhuan | its in AddOns\ |
| 10:00.26 | Xinhuan | its a blizzard addon |
| 10:00.29 | Arrowmaster | only 2 checks against MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status |
| 10:00.33 | Xinhuan | not in framexml |
| 10:01.21 | Arrowmaster | Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap.lua doesnt even contain a single reference to MiniMapBattlefieldFrame |
| 10:01.49 | Xinhuan | well, i really cannot remember why it was needed, but the code definitely had checks to it |
| 10:02.00 | Arrowmaster | 2.3.0 code doesnt seem to anymore |
| 10:02.05 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 10:02.07 | Xinhuan | its gone |
| 10:02.14 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: it's a depreciated method so no suprise that it's being phased out of the code in favor of select(2, IsInInstance() ) |
| 10:02.21 | Xinhuan | before that, it had code to :Hide() it if its status was not "active" |
| 10:02.29 | Xinhuan | so it had to be "active" |
| 10:03.35 | Arrowmaster | http://wdnaddons.com/2307561/AddOns/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap.lua?diff=2237359 |
| 10:03.38 | Arrowmaster | yup right there |
| 10:03.45 | Arrowmaster | was in 2.2.3 but removed in 2.3.0 |
| 10:03.45 | Xinhuan | http://wdnaddons.com/2237359/AddOns/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap.lua |
| 10:04.04 | Xinhuan | i linked the full source for that file |
| 10:04.08 | Xinhuan | line 21 |
| 10:04.18 | Xinhuan | and a few other places |
| 10:04.26 | Xinhuan | line 84 too |
| 10:04.54 | Xinhuan | i guess this variable is now obsolete or something |
| 10:05.08 | Xinhuan | and the reference you found just now i blizzards oversight |
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| 10:05.11 | Xinhuan | is* |
| 10:05.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:05.25 | Arrowmaster | that usage of it is |
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| 10:06.33 | Arrowmaster | its set by line 184 of BattlefieldFrame.lua |
| 10:07.22 | Arrowmaster | from GetBattlefieldStatus() |
| 10:07.34 | Arrowmaster | but it seems now it can only have the values of nil and "active" |
| 10:07.44 | Arrowmaster | perty sure before it always got updated from GetBattlefieldStatus() |
| 10:08.09 | Xinhuan | which means TekMapEnhancer can remove line 7 from its code ;p |
| 10:08.17 | Arrowmaster | it would be "queued" while queued, "confirm" when you could enter a BG |
| 10:08.36 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: fix you code, stop tainting |
| 10:08.43 | Tekkub | meh |
| 10:09.28 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 10:09.37 | Xinhuan | i suppoe Arrowmaster has a point, it does taint |
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| 10:09.50 | Arrowmaster | useless taint = BAD! |
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| 10:10.55 | Arrowmaster | do you know what version of Bongos Skinned Map was breaking Threat-1.0? |
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| 10:12.22 | CIA-8 | 03mfg * r57124 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 10:12.22 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2 |
| 10:12.22 | CIA-8 | -- Babble-Boss-2.2: updated deDE translations for Zul'Aman (Hex Lord Malacrass) |
| 10:12.42 | Tekkub | http://www.catandgirl.com/view.php?loc=552 |
| 10:13.51 | evl\Blend | I need an addon called FixAllTaints |
| 10:13.55 | evl\Blend | ckknight: you can make it |
| 10:14.35 | nevcairiel | thats easy |
| 10:14.52 | nevcairiel | for addon in pairs(AllAddons) do DisableAddon(addon) end |
| 10:15.09 | Arrowmaster | ah ha, that Bongos Skinned Map thingy version 5.1 did MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status = "active" |
| 10:15.19 | Arrowmaster | which would explain why it would break Threat-1.0 |
| 10:15.32 | Arrowmaster | due to that bug in AceComm found tonight |
| 10:16.34 | Kalroth | So we can't blame Antiarc? :( |
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| 10:17.13 | nevcairiel | was that bug fixed now? |
| 10:17.13 | nevcairiel | i didnt pay attention |
| 10:17.18 | Orionshock | no nevcairiel |
| 10:17.32 | Xinhuan | nope nevcairiel |
| 10:17.37 | Xinhuan | no commits yet |
| 10:18.03 | nevcairiel | at least we know who to blame now |
| 10:18.14 | Xinhuan | who? ;p |
| 10:18.37 | nevcairiel | ckknight, we notified him and he didnt fix it yet =P |
| 10:18.46 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 10:18.52 | Stanzilla | yet |
| 10:19.30 | Arrowmaster | (and hes the one that fixed stuff for 2.0 and didnt change those to IsInInstance() which worked for battlefields at the time) |
| 10:20.04 | nevcairiel | i suppose the current check was valid until 2.3.2 |
| 10:20.06 | nevcairiel | er |
| 10:20.07 | nevcairiel | 2.3.0 |
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| 10:20.24 | Arrowmaster | was still a bad check though |
| 10:20.31 | Xinhuan | er, its always been valid, unless another addon messes with it |
| 10:20.31 | Orionshock | OMG ppl, poke someone else in the eye that has access if your that conserned |
| 10:20.40 | Arrowmaster | since MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status was the only way to tell during 1.x |
| 10:20.51 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: well you can actually show the map without any addon after leaving a battleground |
| 10:20.56 | Xinhuan | not really, you could GetRealZoneText()? |
| 10:21.26 | Arrowmaster | well yeah but thats a shitty way |
| 10:21.36 | Xinhuan | yah nevcairiel, but as it stands, blizzard framexml code no longer uses the .status = "active" flag |
| 10:21.38 | Xinhuan | anymore |
| 10:21.44 | Xinhuan | except in one small part |
| 10:22.01 | Xinhuan | http://wdnaddons.com/2307561/AddOns/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap.lua?diff=2237359 |
| 10:22.07 | Xinhuan | that's the 2.2.3 -> 2.3.0 diff |
| 10:22.21 | Arrowmaster | truely during 1.x that was the only locale independent way of checking if you were in a battleground |
| 10:22.38 | Arrowmaster | although i guess GetMapInfo() could have worked too but thats hacky |
| 10:23.11 | Xinhuan | you could easily check the return values of |
| 10:23.18 | Xinhuan | GetWorldStates etc |
| 10:23.25 | Xinhuan | or whatever that function is |
| 10:23.29 | Xinhuan | to see if you were in a bg |
| 10:23.37 | Xinhuan | nobody thought of it that's all |
| 10:25.40 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, you should repost that "After a little checking of the mod Bongos Skinned Map which was reported to be breaking Threat-1.0 for unknown reasons..." post in the omen thread as well |
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| 10:27.04 | Fisker- | 640x480 for awesome |
| 10:27.33 | Fisker- | moo: gfx: NVIDIA NVIDIA 14.0MB |
| 10:27.54 | nevcairiel | grats |
| 10:28.06 | Fisker- | weird it sohws up as 14MB :O |
| 10:29.59 | Arrowmaster | i want to fix my other computer here that used to be my server |
| 10:30.03 | Arrowmaster | it was a great server |
| 10:30.05 | nevcairiel | it is 14mb |
| 10:30.13 | Arrowmaster | its got a slower processor than my router |
| 10:30.26 | Fisker- | no u nevcairiel :( |
| 10:31.16 | evl\Blend | how much overhead does tainting do? |
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| 10:42.22 | Fisker- | moo: gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 512MB |
| 10:42.25 | Fisker- | owned nevcairiel |
| 10:42.48 | nevcairiel | you know, the GT is still faster then that one |
| 10:42.55 | Fisker- | no it's not |
| 10:42.56 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:43.06 | Fisker- | it's older than the old GTS |
| 10:43.08 | nevcairiel | sure it is, get your charts straight :P |
| 10:43.09 | Fisker- | err |
| 10:43.13 | Fisker- | it's better than the old GTS |
| 10:43.16 | Fisker- | but not the new GTS |
| 10:43.42 | Fisker- | i got a 1000 FPS in WoW! |
| 10:44.01 | nevcairiel | everyone has 1000fps after login |
| 10:44.08 | nevcairiel | just wait until it updates the display :P |
| 10:44.23 | Fisker- | i know :P |
| 10:44.32 | Fisker- | but still |
| 10:44.42 | Fisker- | New GTS > GT and old GTS and |
| 10:44.52 | Fisker- | but it's pretty close regardless |
| 10:45.06 | Fisker- | GTS is better in 4x3 billion pixel resolutions |
| 10:45.28 | nevcairiel | i dont play on that huge res anyway |
| 10:45.50 | Fisker- | same here |
| 10:46.09 | Fisker- | the only game where it has a really good advantage at low res is Crysis because it already wants to blow your brains out :P |
| 10:46.32 | Fisker- | but the GTS is still better |
| 10:46.41 | Fisker- | although probagbly not that much worth it |
| 10:46.46 | Fisker- | probably* |
| 10:46.55 | Fisker- | but i got it for free :D |
| 10:53.22 | Codayus | New GTS > GT > Old GTS. But new GTS is like 10% better than the GT? So...meh. |
| 10:54.01 | Codayus | A friend of mine just got a new video card - I advised him to get a GT. Lot cheaper...almost as good. |
| 10:55.13 | Silviu- | Or a 3850 that is much more cheaper anc close to old GTS as performance |
| 10:55.30 | Silviu- | and* |
| 10:55.32 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 10:56.24 | Silviu- | Wtb courier at my door already ... i`m waiting for my new Antec P182 :( |
| 10:56.53 | Fisker- | nevers Silviu- |
| 10:56.54 | Fisker- | and yeah Codayus |
| 10:57.03 | Fisker- | but it was that or waiting a couple of weeks for the 8800GT |
| 10:57.05 | Fisker- | i already got that |
| 10:57.09 | Fisker- | but my dad needed a new machine |
| 10:57.20 | Fisker- | told him he could get my 8800GT and instead i'd just buy a 8800GTS |
| 10:57.20 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:57.20 | Codayus | I'm currently a fan of nvidia cards.... |
| 10:57.39 | Fisker- | CSAA = WIN |
| 10:57.40 | Silviu- | nvidia > all :) |
| 10:57.51 | Silviu- | 02(Video controller 102) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS (Processor: GeForce 8800 GTS), 320MB, 1440x900x32, 74Hz, driver version: 7.15.11.6375 |
| 10:57.58 | Silviu- | :P |
| 10:58.15 | Codayus | Old GTS? BOOO. |
| 10:58.20 | Codayus | That's so last month. |
| 10:58.29 | Codayus | You need to get with the times. This is December! |
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| 10:58.35 | Silviu- | Well ... |
| 10:58.42 | Silviu- | It`s more then enough atm :P |
| 10:58.46 | Silviu- | No need new one ;-) |
| 10:58.56 | Codayus | Look, you have no graphics card geek cred if you don't update your card at LEAST once a month, if not more often! |
| 10:59.27 | Silviu- | I don`t have ~250 euro each month for videocard :P |
| 10:59.45 | Codayus | (I, by the way, am using a GeForce 7900 GT.) |
| 10:59.57 | Silviu- | Then don`t flame me ! :P |
| 11:00.08 | Codayus | And a Athlon 64 X2 3800. 5 DPS in SSC is good, right? |
| 11:00.14 | Silviu- | No |
| 11:00.14 | Silviu- | :D |
| 11:00.19 | Codayus | Is for me. :-( |
| 11:00.23 | Codayus | And that wasn't a flame. |
| 11:00.25 | Silviu- | http://www.silviu.wtf.la/Silviu.png |
| 11:00.31 | Silviu- | Rest of my config |
| 11:00.32 | Codayus | Errr... |
| 11:00.34 | Codayus | FPS, even |
| 11:00.39 | Codayus | Damnit, I keep making that mistake. |
| 11:01.15 | Stanzilla | Silviu-: good choice on the case |
| 11:01.39 | Arrowmaster | gfx[RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition Secondary (Omega 3.8.421) ] screen[1600x1200 32bit 60Hz] |
| 11:01.42 | Arrowmaster | weeee |
| 11:01.44 | Silviu- | Stanzilla thx :) hope i get it today so i can start reasamble it :P |
| 11:02.23 | Arrowmaster | lol thats not my resolution |
| 11:03.12 | Arrowmaster | 2752x1200 |
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| 11:05.13 | Kivin | How do i change my WAU to 'default mode: NO externals' |
| 11:06.43 | Kivin | nvm =/ |
| 11:08.19 | Arrowmaster | diskcapacity[C:\ (9.66GB Free, 149.04GB Total), F:\ (8.16GB Free, 232.88GB Total), G:\ (6.52GB Free, 232.88GB Total), K:\ (84.34GB Free, 465.76GB Total), L:\ (223.37GB Free, 465.76GB Total), Total (332.04GB Free, 1.51TB Total)] |
| 11:08.24 | Arrowmaster | need more harddrives |
| 11:08.29 | Silviu- | ;-))) |
| 11:08.31 | Kivin | -.- |
| 11:08.32 | Silviu- | For ? |
| 11:08.38 | Silviu- | My 320 is only 100 Gb full |
| 11:08.48 | ramoz | Silviu-: stupid question, more gay porn |
| 11:08.53 | Silviu- | :( |
| 11:09.02 | Silviu- | I download a movie, watch it then delete it |
| 11:09.10 | Silviu- | I don`t even burn it to a dvd |
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| 11:09.37 | Silviu- | Music ? no need so much i almost all the time listen to radio :) |
| 11:09.39 | Arrowmaster | ive got another TB of disconnected drives |
| 11:13.32 | _neuron_ | you also need raid or lvm arrowmaster :p |
| 11:13.42 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 11:13.59 | Arrowmaster | lvm prefered |
| 11:14.18 | Silviu- | lvm ? |
| 11:14.44 | _neuron_ | Silviu-, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux) |
| 11:14.59 | _neuron_ | ie merge multiple harddrives of different size/partitions/whatever you want into one "hd" |
| 11:15.16 | Silviu- | _neuron_ that is raid 0 |
| 11:15.23 | Silviu- | And 1 is mirror ;-) |
| 11:15.27 | _neuron_ | no it's not :P |
| 11:15.32 | Silviu- | Or well .. |
| 11:15.37 | Silviu- | raid is only 2 hdd`s |
| 11:15.38 | Silviu- | ok :) |
| 11:15.42 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 11:15.43 | _neuron_ | a : raid0 dies if you loose a hd, lvm does not, b : raid0 needs identical drives, lvm does not |
| 11:15.49 | _neuron_ | and raid0 can be as many drives as you want |
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| 11:15.59 | Silviu- | Hmm yes ? ok :) |
| 11:15.59 | Arrowmaster | raid5 or bust |
| 11:16.05 | Silviu- | Never used raid |
| 11:16.06 | Silviu- | :P |
| 11:16.06 | _neuron_ | bust? :P |
| 11:16.17 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
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| 11:56.04 | Orionshock | Does Prat suppress addon startup messages |
| 11:56.35 | Kivin | I have about twelve lines of "hello world" messages when I log in and I use prat |
| 11:59.13 | Orionshock | fk... |
| 11:59.17 | Kivin | hmm? |
| 11:59.34 | Kivin | o.o *blink* |
| 11:59.49 | [Ammo] | orionshock probably doesn't understand something again |
| 12:00.11 | Kivin | -.- |
| 12:00.12 | Orionshock | :D |
| 12:00.25 | [Ammo] | he usually bursts out in anger due to his own lack of comprehension |
| 12:00.33 | Orionshock | well.... i just didn't expect it do func(event, ...) |
| 12:00.43 | Kivin | That's ok, I do that a lot too |
| 12:00.47 | Orionshock | i didn't expect the event name as the first arg.... |
| 12:01.32 | [Ammo] | basically similar to how warcraft does it |
| 12:01.33 | Orionshock | ... like how is that at all useful?? |
| 12:01.43 | [Ammo] | registering multiple events to the same handler |
| 12:02.00 | Kivin | Rock passes both the namespace and the event as the first two args. That made me fume for about ten minutes |
| 12:02.27 | Kivin | I thought it'd be (arg1, ...), then i tried (event, arg1, ...) and fumed even more. then finally (ns, event, arg1, ...) |
| 12:02.34 | [Ammo] | morons make me fume more: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4843.msg166187#msg166187 |
| 12:04.21 | Kivin | learning skills from the engineering trainer that are green the same level i'm able to learn them is frusterating |
| 12:07.15 | Orionshock | ... im not brave enough atm to dive into AceComms-3 ... and so i have my own CHAT_MSG_ADDON parser... |
| 12:07.40 | [Ammo] | acecomm-3.0 is easy |
| 12:07.48 | Orionshock | and it wasn't recieving data properly... so i threw in some debug and noticed that the first arg, witch should have been the prefix was infact the event name... |
| 12:07.50 | [Ammo] | and combines well with aceserializer-3.0 |
| 12:08.23 | [Ammo] | a good place to check for usecases is the tests/ folder :) |
| 12:08.54 | b00gy | hey ammo, did you read my whisper about the translation in BigWigs? |
| 12:08.54 | Orionshock | ....i've got a simple comms method... and it works just fine... |
| 12:09.02 | Orionshock | need to add in CTL and it's finished |
| 12:09.19 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:09.34 | [Ammo] | b00gy: you're probably not registerde with nickserv so not allowed to send me privmsgs |
| 12:09.40 | Kivin | whew... just finished converting all my addons to no externals, two hours later. more than halved my addon folder size |
| 12:09.51 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/79169 |
| 12:09.53 | Orionshock | see simple |
| 12:10.01 | b00gy | i made some deDE translations for ZA in BigWigs, is it ok to commit or shall i send it to you/any other author first? |
| 12:10.14 | b00gy | ah didnt know about the nickserv thingy ^^ |
| 12:10.16 | [Ammo] | just commit |
| 12:10.22 | b00gy | okay thanks |
| 12:10.23 | [Ammo] | if you fuck it up we'll come hunt you down |
| 12:10.25 | [Ammo] | and break your knees |
| 12:10.27 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 12:10.39 | Killmore | haha nice :P |
| 12:10.40 | Fisker- | moo: gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 512MB |
| 12:10.46 | Fisker- | btw [Ammo] |
| 12:10.47 | Kivin | there's a syntax error in your type() |
| 12:10.51 | Fisker- | why no banish timer on magtheridon? :o |
| 12:10.53 | Orionshock | ?? |
| 12:10.55 | Fisker- | in bigwigs |
| 12:10.58 | Kivin | type( addon[command] == "function" ) |
| 12:10.59 | [Ammo] | there is a banish timer? |
| 12:11.07 | Kivin | shouldn't that be type(addon[command]) == 'function' |
| 12:11.12 | Fisker- | yeah when you begin and then he gets unleashed |
| 12:11.16 | Orionshock | " / ' == same |
| 12:11.24 | Kivin | i'm not refering the quotes |
| 12:11.27 | CIA-8 | 03mfg * r57125 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: |
| 12:11.27 | CIA-8 | BigWigs |
| 12:11.27 | CIA-8 | -- updated deDE translations for Zul'Aman (Hex Lord Malacrass) |
| 12:11.31 | Kivin | the paranthesis |
| 12:11.39 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: please explain better |
| 12:11.45 | Stanzilla | [Ammo]: do you have commit rights for ace2? |
| 12:12.05 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Magtheridon_%28tactics%29 |
| 12:12.10 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:12.10 | Fisker- | Initially, five Hellfire Channelers are distributed around the room, each next to a Manticron Cube. All mobs in the room have no aggro range, the fight is started by any harmful action. The raid should be able to kill at least three Channelers before Magtheridon becomes active after two minutes. |
| 12:12.15 | [Ammo] | Stanzilla: no, I didn't want them |
| 12:12.18 | Kivin | your code will always get type(true) or type(false), which will be "boolean" |
| 12:12.23 | Stanzilla | [Ammo]: kk |
| 12:12.29 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: explain better |
| 12:12.30 | Orionshock | Kivin: used to be ... and (type(addon[command]) == 'function') then |
| 12:12.31 | Fisker- | When you start the encounter there's a 2 minute timer and magtheridon is released |
| 12:12.35 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: there is a timer |
| 12:12.38 | Fisker- | but there's no timer for that in bigwigs |
| 12:12.39 | Orionshock | must have removed the wrong pair of () |
| 12:12.41 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: there is |
| 12:12.44 | Fisker- | :O? |
| 12:12.48 | Kivin | Orionshock: *nod* |
| 12:13.03 | Orionshock | see this is why im here to get schooled |
| 12:13.17 | Kivin | Always helps to have a second pair of eyes look at something |
| 12:13.27 | Kivin | Your eyes see what you want them to see, sometimes |
| 12:13.34 | Fisker- | duh |
| 12:13.58 | Fisker- | what's my punishment? :( |
| 12:14.09 | Orionshock | well... i'd like narg, the residant over AceGUI-3, to look at http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/RaidID/display.lua , and see if i hacked it up too badly or did it wrong somewhere... |
| 12:15.00 | Kivin | Over my head |
| 12:15.15 | Orionshock | ya .. same here... lots of trial and error on that one.... |
| 12:15.30 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.44 | Kivin | Been there, done that |
| 12:16.06 | Kivin | Was the story of my life for about two weeks when I started writing everything in Rock |
| 12:17.13 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:17.26 | Orionshock | tbh, i like ace3 more than rock... |
| 12:17.43 | Orionshock | i like reverse engineering things first before i let something else do it for me |
| 12:17.44 | evl\Blend | DRAMA INC |
| 12:18.07 | Kivin | I just can't trust ace3; I can't see myself deploying anything on it until it's completely overwhelmed the market like ace2 has |
| 12:18.12 | Orionshock | btw, http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_121807_051603.jpg , is what the display looks like on my addon |
| 12:18.43 | Kivin | what's it supposed to do |
| 12:18.48 | JoshBorke | Kivin: why? |
| 12:19.05 | Kivin | JoshBorke: why what? |
| 12:19.16 | JoshBorke | why can't you trust it? |
| 12:19.54 | Kivin | To visit that question, look at why I feel I *can* trust ace2 or rock: Both are working to much success already in my current UI implementation |
| 12:20.41 | JoshBorke | so you just don't feel it's stability has been proven? |
| 12:20.42 | Kivin | I'm not interested in deploying a product on a bleeding edge framework, even if it is/will-be better than existing frameworks |
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| 12:21.01 | JoshBorke | it's a good thing Ace3 isn't ready for deploying :-D |
| 12:21.37 | Kivin | why is that? |
| 12:21.40 | Tinyboom | new/bleeding edge is more fun, daily fix of updates and new features to play with:D |
| 12:21.42 | Orionshock | and me, im just fking arround... |
| 12:21.56 | JoshBorke | Kivin: because Ace3 isn't even beta yet, it's still under heavy development |
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| 12:22.06 | Fisker- | what |
| 12:22.11 | Fisker- | what's that Orionshock ? |
| 12:22.13 | Kivin | JoshBorke: Ok, and you're asking me why I don't trust it? :p |
| 12:23.10 | Orionshock | Fisker-: what i linked, that's the start of a gui im throwing togeather with Ace3'sGUI lib... ofc not done yet. purpose of the addon is to gather and display any and all RAID Id's of the guild |
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| 12:23.55 | JoshBorke | Kivin: i'm just curious why you would make such a blanket statement about a product that hasn't been released yet, it seemed like you would never trust Ace3 :-) |
| 12:24.38 | Kivin | JoshBorke: Like I said, when/if it becomes mainstream like ace2, I would put serious consideration into deploying on it. |
| 12:24.53 | Fisker- | sounds hawt Orionshock |
| 12:24.53 | Kivin | But at this time, I boggle when I hear about people developing new addons on the ace3 framework. |
| 12:25.00 | Fisker- | could be fun for loot statistics also |
| 12:25.05 | Orionshock | im sorry, but i have to make fun of both of you.. "Designing WoW mods is a /Serious/ matter, one that must be thought about and stewed over for weeks" |
| 12:25.12 | Fisker- | in favor of the "omg loot is seeded by the raidleader" :( |
| 12:25.15 | Fisker- | want barbie shield |
| 12:25.23 | JoshBorke | Kivin: meh, gotta test it some how :-) |
| 12:25.32 | Kivin | JoshBorke: I guess, better them than me. |
| 12:26.11 | Kivin | Speaking of testing... I need to find someone with write access to Rock. Can I safely assume Ckknight is the only person that can+should do that? |
| 12:26.43 | Stanzilla | I think everybody can commit to rock |
| 12:26.44 | Orionshock | Kivin: i imagine that Ace3 will go back to the roots of the matter, a framework for the convince of the author not a name brand with a flavor for the masses to suck up and update religiously with. |
| 12:26.49 | Stanzilla | @ Kivin |
| 12:27.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah everybody can commit to rock |
| 12:27.07 | Kivin | I put "should" in there for a reason... |
| 12:27.24 | Kivin | The wiki says you should never, ever, ever commit to someone else's project on the trunk without permission |
| 12:27.33 | Stanzilla | go ask him then :) |
| 12:27.33 | Arrowmaster | pff i do it all the time |
| 12:27.40 | Kivin | I would if I could get ahold of him |
| 12:27.51 | Stanzilla | ckknight: pingpong |
| 12:27.51 | Kivin | I've lurked this channel for a month hoping to see him at least once |
| 12:27.59 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: you also don't phook anything that often... like cartographer waypoints that one time... |
| 12:28.16 | Arrowmaster | when did i break that? |
| 12:28.33 | Kivin | Any besides, i don't have an SVN account; I only mailed the svn request team thing a few hours ago. |
| 12:28.34 | Orionshock | month or 2 ago, keep adding in dupicate default options that conflicted... |
| 12:28.44 | JoshBorke | Kivin: is it a bug fix or feature request? |
| 12:28.45 | Arrowmaster | that wasnt me |
| 12:28.52 | Kivin | Josh_Borke: bug fix |
| 12:29.02 | JoshBorke | Kivin: jira it along with how to fix |
| 12:29.12 | Kivin | Hmm.. k |
| 12:29.15 | JoshBorke | Kivin: then someone can just see the jira ticket and apply the ifx |
| 12:29.23 | Stanzilla | or send an email |
| 12:29.23 | JoshBorke | and ckknight will more easily see what was done |
| 12:29.47 | JoshBorke | that way all communication isn't done through a medium which is tedious to search |
| 12:29.54 | Arrowmaster | now i did put a bug into bigwigs version check with a commit that one of the other devs didnt even like but nobody noticed the bug and i fixed it a few months later |
| 12:29.56 | Kivin | fair enough |
| 12:30.27 | [dRaCo] | while we're at it... anyone maintaining msbtCooldowns? |
| 12:30.32 | Arrowmaster | everything else i break gets fixed perty fast tough |
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| 12:43.18 | Kivin | alright, codefix JIRA'd. Hopefully it doesn't get ignored like my other JIRA submission. |
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| 12:48.15 | JoshBorke | Kivin: now you should bug people in here to commit the fix for the ticket ;-) |
| 12:49.18 | Kivin | Josh_Borke: commit the fix for my ticket |
| 12:49.25 | Kivin | ;p |
| 12:49.29 | JoshBorke | can't gotta go to work :-P |
| 12:49.33 | Orionshock | urg.... |
| 12:49.34 | Kivin | bahh |
| 12:49.38 | Kivin | Orionshock: commit the fix:p |
| 12:50.03 | Orionshock | make me a del&Unpak() func that i can steal |
| 12:50.13 | Kivin | o.o |
| 12:50.22 | Kivin | for what, exactly |
| 12:50.29 | Kivin | table recycling? |
| 12:50.31 | Orionshock | ya |
| 12:50.33 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 12:50.40 | Kivin | ace3 doesn't have that? |
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| 12:50.48 | Orionshock | i don't understand the code in rock... |
| 12:51.01 | Kivin | i wouldn't even know where to start in rock to FIND the recycler |
| 12:51.04 | Orionshock | no, ace3 dosn't have table recycling |
| 12:51.11 | Kivin | but ck's works well enough |
| 12:51.53 | Arrowmaster | check the top of any rock addon for where it gets its new() del() from |
| 12:52.03 | Arrowmaster | then find that function in LibRock-1.0 |
| 12:52.53 | Kivin | i've already found it |
| 12:53.04 | Kivin | LibRock-1.0.lua : 580 |
| 12:54.04 | Kivin | line 528 is Ck's unpack function |
| 12:54.53 | Orionshock | it looks like a recursive function it returns the value and the function that then unpacks the next value and the function... |
| 12:55.58 | Kivin | indeed |
| 12:57.23 | Kivin | at line 721, you'll find his unpack and del function |
| 12:59.16 | Kivin | i wonder why he chose to have three different functions for deleteing and unpacking tables |
| 12:59.28 | Orionshock | different methods.. |
| 12:59.35 | Arrowmaster | different data |
| 12:59.41 | Arrowmaster | and how its unpacked |
| 12:59.42 | Kivin | the only difference is the keys |
| 12:59.58 | Kivin | and indices are compable with dict keys |
| 13:01.10 | Arrowmaster | i would use the little t[true] = true; t[true] = nil thing though, perty sure somebody proved it helped with recycling |
| 13:01.27 | Kivin | i was puzzling over that |
| 13:02.18 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember exactly but i think it was that normally when a table grows then you nil everything its still as large as it was previously |
| 13:02.37 | krka | snake oil FTW |
| 13:03.00 | Kivin | Not sure how changing the [true] key would do anything, unless it's got special handling in the lua interpreter |
| 13:03.08 | krka | it's adding a key |
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| 13:03.26 | krka | if you add a key, and there is no slot to put it in, lua recreates the table |
| 13:03.52 | krka | (possibly freeing up some memory) |
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| 13:04.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah that was it |
| 13:04.15 | Kivin | so if i go: local t={} for i = 1, 500 do t[i] = i end, i would create 500 different tables? |
| 13:04.22 | krka | no |
| 13:04.30 | krka | probably around 6-8 |
| 13:04.35 | Kivin | explain "slot" |
| 13:04.45 | Fin | it puts the lotion in the slot |
| 13:04.58 | krka | each key is hashed to a slot in a plain c array |
| 13:05.10 | Fin | it puts the lotion in the slot or else it gets the hose again! |
| 13:05.23 | krka | the slot counter simply goes down until it reaches zero, and then it rehashes the table |
| 13:05.41 | Orionshock | i think i was able to rip it out of rock to re use it myself.. |
| 13:05.43 | krka | essentially creating a new table and inserting all the current table entries there |
| 13:05.52 | Kivin | then 'local t = {}' dimensions a nominal amount of memory for quite a few slots |
| 13:06.10 | Kivin | and each time it's rehashed, a fair chunk of whitespace is bolted on to the new table |
| 13:06.14 | Fin | lua's neat, in more than one sense of the word |
| 13:06.40 | krka | i'd like to see the test that shows that the t[true] = nil stuff has any benefit |
| 13:07.00 | Fin | wouldn't it be simple enough to write? :) |
| 13:07.12 | Kivin | It seems to me from what I've just digested, that the t[true] thing would most often do absolutely nothing, and only occasionally push the table over the slot limit and cause it to rehash |
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| 13:07.28 | krka | since i don't get how it works and for what use cases, i can't really write that test |
| 13:07.35 | Fin | oh |
| 13:07.40 | Fin | sorry |
| 13:08.18 | Kivin | who wants to commit a change to librockconfig for me ;p |
| 13:08.27 | Kivin | so my addon will be unborked |
| 13:08.52 | Fin | is it protected, like the ace stuff was? |
| 13:08.55 | Fin | or is |
| 13:09.03 | Kivin | I have absolutely no idea |
| 13:09.36 | Kivin | I was told earlier that anyone should be able to commit, but i don't have an SVN account |
| 13:09.45 | Orionshock | well the problem is that in my addon, there ofc is a "public" api that i've set aside, one func returns a list of instances cached, another of players cached... unfortunately the way i store everything is in table format, so i grab a new table, t.insert the value i need then return the table unpacked |
| 13:10.03 | Orionshock | ...so being reasonable i needed tbl recycling functions... |
| 13:10.15 | Fin | Kivin: yeah, most of the SVN repository is unprotected, but I seem to remember some ace bits being "special" |
| 13:10.16 | Kivin | Deploy your addon in rock and use those :p |
| 13:10.18 | krka | table recycling is rarely worth it, imo |
| 13:10.25 | krka | atleast not centralized |
| 13:10.38 | Fin | but, it is neat |
| 13:10.42 | krka | not really |
| 13:10.43 | Fin | in only one sense of the word |
| 13:10.48 | Kivin | I use it just because I am a perfectionist |
| 13:11.00 | krka | are you sure it's the best solution for you? |
| 13:11.20 | Kivin | It bothers me when i know i'm allocating memory that will become unreachable in two or three instructions |
| 13:11.23 | Orionshock | i've had many here look over my addons, i got slaped a few times by tek for doing { func() } |
| 13:11.26 | Arrowmaster | after trying to debug cartographer i dont want to use it |
| 13:11.35 | Arrowmaster | rather use ace2 or ace3 |
| 13:11.50 | Fin | hahah |
| 13:12.20 | Kivin | the xp meter i wrote passes a table into a pseudo-c sprintf function on a regular basis then disposes of the table two lines after it was created. i felt guilty letting the table be, so i used recycling |
| 13:12.32 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.36 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.45 | Fin | you know... someone really should write up a bit diagram with a whose-is-who's-is-what |
| 13:13.02 | Kivin | diagram of what? |
| 13:13.29 | Fin | who's responsible for Ace, Ace2, Ace3, Rock, Dongle, and any others anyone feels emotional enough to include, and how they overlap, with some sort of timeline attached |
| 13:13.44 | Fin | with circles and colours and things |
| 13:14.02 | Arrowmaster | but then id feel left out =( |
| 13:14.07 | Kivin | after dealing with externals in my addon folder for the last two hours, i don't want to revisit the relationship between all my addons again. ever. |
| 13:14.14 | krka | Kivin: centralized recycling or localized? |
| 13:14.18 | Fin | Arrowmaster: surely you're responsible for some of this mess? |
| 13:14.31 | Kivin | krka: I don't understand the question. I'm using Rock's recycling functions |
| 13:14.39 | Arrowmaster | officially? nope |
| 13:14.46 | krka | like: local t = {} function doStuff() fill t with stuff, use t, clear t end |
| 13:14.53 | Kivin | krka: yes |
| 13:15.01 | krka | rocks stuff = centralized |
| 13:15.04 | Kivin | i think... |
| 13:15.25 | Fin | well the diagramexplator wouldn't be much good if it was too official |
| 13:15.31 | Arrowmaster | altough i like to consider myself the finder of the most obscure random bugs on the svn |
| 13:15.49 | Fin | I shall call you on that - give us an example then |
| 13:15.50 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/79172 |
| 13:16.14 | Kivin | whoops: http://ace.pastey.net/79173 |
| 13:16.27 | Arrowmaster | well today i randomly found out that acecomm's addon version querying was causing lod addons to be loaded |
| 13:16.51 | Fin | intentionally or as an unannounced feature? |
| 13:16.53 | Arrowmaster | lastnight i found a few random globals in acecomm i wasnt even looking for |
| 13:17.00 | Arrowmaster | it was a bug |
| 13:17.02 | Arrowmaster | fixed now |
| 13:17.16 | Arrowmaster | lets seee |
| 13:17.35 | Josh_Borke | fin: feature :-D |
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| 13:17.57 | Arrowmaster | im the one that fixed the old library upgrade buy in glorylib that caused all honor gains to be counted twice |
| 13:17.59 | Fin | if a bug causes an error but there's noone there to see something fail - does it make a sound? |
| 13:18.07 | Arrowmaster | i find random bugs |
| 13:18.11 | Kivin | speaking of glory |
| 13:18.19 | Kivin | my prat feels the need to include it. any idea why? |
| 13:18.20 | Fin | aha! enguarde! |
| 13:18.24 | Fin | now! we fight |
| 13:18.56 | krka | Kivin: http://ace.pastey.net/79174 |
| 13:19.04 | Fin | true randomosity has been categorically proven by the denizens of #WoWAce to be both impossible and very unlikely! |
| 13:19.32 | Fin | so these bugs aren't really RANDOM after all... |
| 13:19.43 | Kivin | krka: yes... however this is happening all over the code with a variety of dicts; i felt it was easier on my head to just create and trash them as the code rolls over various sprintfs |
| 13:19.55 | krka | why do you even need to trash them? |
| 13:20.14 | krka | just overwrite them next time you use them |
| 13:20.26 | Kivin | granted, I could have done that |
| 13:20.36 | Arrowmaster | of often is it called? |
| 13:20.40 | Arrowmaster | how |
| 13:20.44 | Kivin | sort of a 'if it aint broken, dont fix it' situation |
| 13:21.01 | krka | isn't a dict just a plain table? |
| 13:21.14 | Kivin | arrowmaster, a half dozen times every time you query xp information. at the moment, that's only on a slash command. in the future, that'll be on tooltips and possibly on a timer |
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| 13:21.21 | Kivin | krka yes |
| 13:21.28 | krka | why call it a dict then? |
| 13:21.37 | Kivin | because rock calls it a dict ;p |
| 13:21.46 | Arrowmaster | Kivin: well then considering that future usage, keep recycling imho |
| 13:21.57 | Kivin | Arrowmaster: fair enough |
| 13:22.02 | krka | if rock told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it? |
| 13:22.06 | Kivin | It might not be elegant, but it works |
| 13:22.08 | Kivin | krka: probably |
| 13:22.19 | Kivin | krka: spirit rez is awsome, mmkay? |
| 13:22.28 | Orionshock | ... going to shoot myself.... |
| 13:22.33 | krka | i am not seeing how rock's way of doing it is any more work for addon authors than my proposal |
| 13:22.36 | Orionshock | or narg is.. |
| 13:22.47 | Arrowmaster | rock isnt for addon authors |
| 13:22.55 | Arrowmaster | its for one person |
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| 13:22.59 | Kivin | *blink* |
| 13:23.05 | Fin | hahah |
| 13:23.12 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: enough with the hate... |
| 13:23.15 | Josh_Borke | kivin: rock was written by ckknight for ckknight |
| 13:23.17 | Fin | 10 points! |
| 13:23.18 | Kivin | poor ckknight |
| 13:23.18 | Arrowmaster | its true! |
| 13:23.23 | Josh_Borke | it is true |
| 13:23.39 | Josh_Borke | that doesn't take away the fact that some people f ind it useful |
| 13:23.49 | Kivin | granted |
| 13:24.10 | Arrowmaster | i want to stick a fork in my eye after trying to debug rockdb |
| 13:24.14 | krka | Kivin: you're seeing how my version is at most as many lines of code to use as rock, and at best fewer? |
| 13:24.19 | krka | depending on the circumstance |
| 13:24.25 | krka | i'm also willing to bet that it's faster |
| 13:24.27 | Arrowmaster | that was a stressful 12 hours |
| 13:24.27 | Kivin | krka: what's your version |
| 13:24.29 | Fin | do you have any forks in the immediate vicinity? |
| 13:24.32 | krka | i posted the pastey for it |
| 13:24.44 | Fin | STEP AWAY FROM THE FORK |
| 13:24.47 | Josh_Borke | krka: your version is obviously going to be much faster because you make assumptions that can't be made in rock |
| 13:24.49 | Kivin | oh, the proposed solution to my code |
| 13:25.23 | Arrowmaster | local specific recycling is better than generalized recycling |
| 13:25.30 | Josh_Borke | Kivin: a customized recycling solution will always be superior to a generalized solution, ie a simple one written for your mod will out perform rock every time |
| 13:25.33 | Fin | think local: act global |
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| 13:25.37 | Fin | wait |
| 13:25.42 | Fin | is that it? |
| 13:25.44 | krka | Josh_Borke: that's my point - there is no need to make generic code for simple stuff like that |
| 13:25.57 | Fin | no, huh, it's the other way round - think global: act local |
| 13:26.13 | Josh_Borke | krka: but most things can be said that way. generic code is made so that it's easier for people |
| 13:26.17 | Arrowmaster | Fin: were all lost |
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| 13:26.23 | krka | yes, but is it even easier? |
| 13:26.28 | krka | it's so damn easy to do it yourself |
| 13:26.30 | Josh_Borke | krka: the same argument can be made about frameworks |
| 13:26.34 | krka | this is like making a framework for loops |
| 13:26.42 | Fin | Arrowmaster: recycling! it's the world government slogan - think global: act local |
| 13:26.50 | Josh_Borke | krka: it's just a matter of where the effort and the gain meet |
| 13:26.51 | Kivin | The bottom line was, the sprintf function was written without a lot of future thought in mind. It became somewhat heavily implemented into my addon, and I used the first thing that came to mind to patch up it's shortcomings. |
| 13:27.01 | krka | rock:loop(loopbody() end, loopcondition() end) |
| 13:27.13 | Fin | it's even got references to variable scope in it, that's a solid gold 10 point pun right there |
| 13:27.41 | Arrowmaster | rock:hardplace() |
| 13:27.42 | Kivin | It may not be the best way possible, but I'm not looking for nickle and dime optimizations in an addon that requires almost no cpu clocks |
| 13:27.59 | krka | all i am saying is that rock's table recycling is never less code than doing it yourself |
| 13:28.07 | Fin | rock:paper():scissors() |
| 13:28.11 | Josh_Borke | krka: it's less code to the author |
| 13:28.16 | Josh_Borke | krka: not less code for the addon |
| 13:28.16 | krka | show example of that |
| 13:28.17 | Orionshock | ..... i want to kill kittens now... |
| 13:28.32 | Fin | STEP AWAY FROM THE KITTEN |
| 13:28.36 | krka | Josh_Borke: yes, i got that distinction |
| 13:28.37 | Josh_Borke | krka: he already has one. he didn't have to write any of the table recycling code, all he had to do was new(), del() |
| 13:28.46 | Orionshock | i hate all of you that said good code > noobness. |
| 13:28.46 | Arrowmaster | rock:kill(kitten) |
| 13:29.07 | Fin | kitten beats kill beats rock beats kitten! en guarde! |
| 13:29.11 | Josh_Borke | so as an author there is a difference in 'work' required, but per addon there isn't |
| 13:29.15 | krka | in my case there is just one table creation and one clear |
| 13:29.18 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: that's Rock:unpackListAndDel(Kitten) |
| 13:29.26 | Josh_Borke | right, but also in your code the author had to do more work |
| 13:29.27 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 13:29.34 | krka | what, the clear-function? |
| 13:29.43 | Josh_Borke | krka: sure, the 2 lines of code ;-D |
| 13:29.52 | krka | that's a trivial one liner that needs to be put somewhere in the code |
| 13:29.53 | Josh_Borke | <-- laziest person you'll meet |
| 13:30.07 | Fin | Josh_Borke: not true! en guarde! |
| 13:30.09 | Arrowmaster | Josh_Borke: ill chalenge you on that |
| 13:30.09 | krka | function clear(t) for k in next, t do t[k] = nil end |
| 13:30.12 | Fin | now we fight! |
| 13:30.16 | Fin | actually maybe later |
| 13:30.30 | Josh_Borke | Arrowmaster: i'll pass |
| 13:30.37 | Kivin | while we're at it, i don't get the 'for k in next, t' thing |
| 13:30.40 | krka | your argument is that you have to write that extra function instead of including the relevant rock lib instead? |
| 13:30.50 | sdouble | there you go, proof that Josh_Borke is the laziest person |
| 13:30.53 | Kivin | i would have written that as: for k,v in pairs(t) |
| 13:30.55 | Arrowmaster | if i manage to get my 9 or so more college credits by the end of spring quarter ill get my associates degree after 4 years of college |
| 13:31.02 | sdouble | you guys are wanting to fight about it, he's wanting to remain lazy |
| 13:31.12 | Fin | form of: sloth |
| 13:31.17 | Josh_Borke | krka: yes because the relevant rock lib is already in use for other functions |
| 13:31.21 | Arrowmaster | but the thing is that at the beginning of those 4 years, i started with half the credits needed |
| 13:31.23 | Josh_Borke | Kivin: pairs is a wrapper for next |
| 13:31.29 | Arrowmaster | now thats lazy |
| 13:31.31 | Fin | hey, there's a big difference between wanting to do something and doing it, buddy |
| 13:31.42 | Kivin | There is no rock lib for recycling. Recycling is shared in the core LibRock-1.0 lib |
| 13:31.45 | Fin | if you never wanted to do anything, there'd be nothing to be lazy about, would there |
| 13:32.18 | Fin | in fact you'd be quite the miss busybody, what with having completed everything you wanted to do |
| 13:32.28 | Fin | if you were female |
| 13:32.36 | Fin | the mr busybody if you were male |
| 13:32.58 | Arrowmaster | your weirding me out |
| 13:33.03 | Arrowmaster | and its 8:30am |
| 13:33.07 | Fin | sorry |
| 13:33.08 | Arrowmaster | i'm going to sleep |
| 13:33.15 | Fin | night |
| 13:33.20 | Fin | I'm going to go and buy some beer |
| 13:33.20 | Kivin | quite the (UnitGender("target")=="male") and "mr" or "miss" busybody |
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| 13:33.42 | krka | Josh_Borke: what if i inline the clear then? then it's no extra code at all! |
| 13:34.02 | krka | in kivin's case, there's no need to even clear it actually |
| 13:34.07 | krka | so it's much much much less code |
| 13:34.29 | Kivin | well tell you what. when i deploy it onto the svn, you can "fix" it however you like :P |
| 13:34.52 | krka | i don't actually play wow |
| 13:34.58 | Kivin | *blink* |
| 13:35.43 | Arrowmaster | sadly "fix" doesnt include 'svn del', i wanted to do that to EQCompare but they yelled at me =( |
| 13:35.47 | Kivin | before i go, someone commit my rock change >< |
| 13:35.59 | Fin | aw, I like EQCompare! |
| 13:36.00 | krka | http://ace.pastey.net/79175 |
| 13:36.05 | Arrowmaster | night |
| 13:36.06 | Fin | no other addon works in just the same way |
| 13:36.07 | krka | there's my actual fix |
| 13:36.11 | krka | see, it's tiny |
| 13:37.26 | Kivin | sigh, my interface folder is a mess since i removed externals |
| 13:39.10 | Orionshock | what's the escape code for "tab" ? is it \001 ? |
| 13:39.19 | krka | \t |
| 13:39.37 | krka | http://www.asciitable.com/ |
| 13:40.13 | Josh_Borke | krka: don't worry, i agree with you |
| 13:40.16 | Josh_Borke | i'm just arguing both sides |
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| 13:41.41 | Kivin | is there an addon that keeps a log of your daily quests? i log on and off a dozen and a half times through the day, and by the end, i wonder to myself which dailies i've done and haven't |
| 13:41.52 | Kivin | in otherwords, what dailies you've recently completed |
| 13:42.04 | Orionshock | DailyQuestTracker |
| 13:42.10 | Orionshock | on inggamers iirc |
| 13:42.23 | Kivin | incgamers >< that site annoys me |
| 13:42.34 | Orionshock | night all |
| 13:42.40 | Kivin | o/ |
| 13:43.22 | Fin | so, has anyone else heard about this "Windows Media Player makes WoW faster" thing? |
| 13:43.34 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.03 | Fin | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1739394019&sid=1&pageNo=12 |
| 13:44.06 | Josh_Borke | Orionshock: you could help document ;-) |
| 13:44.27 | Orionshock | Josh_Borke: i could... but ... you don't want me writing documentation... |
| 13:44.40 | Orionshock | i do customer service, it would sound and look bad from the get go.... |
| 13:44.40 | Josh_Borke | hehe |
| 13:45.42 | Orionshock | that and it would require that i look though, understand, and regurgitate all of the GUI code and widgets... and quite frankly you couldn't pay me enough to do that.... |
| 13:46.12 | Orionshock | who ever wrote that code, god bless them, but WTF where you smoking because you need to seriously share that shit |
| 13:47.12 | Josh_Borke | Orionshock: nargiddely wrote a majority (if not all) of it |
| 13:48.21 | Orionshock | none of it follows anything familiar in ace2, For example, there are many functions in widgets that do self.obj:Fire("SomeScriptEvent") ; so i thought.... ok... it's going to do a function call to obj["SomeScriptEvent"](obj, ...) |
| 13:48.36 | Orionshock | so make the function and let it happen.... oh i was so wrong there.... |
| 13:48.45 | Josh_Borke | it should... |
| 13:48.51 | Josh_Borke | Fire is embedded from CallBackHandler |
| 13:49.09 | Orionshock | no, you have to do obj:RegisterCallback("SomeScriptEvent", function() end) |
| 13:49.47 | Josh_Borke | well there you go :-D you gotta register for it before you can have it fired |
| 13:50.03 | Orionshock | no, i don't think you read that correctly... |
| 13:50.36 | Josh_Borke | hm, you can't use a method? |
| 13:50.37 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.55 | Orionshock | i tried, many times... no avail |
| 13:51.13 | kenlyric | so, windows bugs fix WoW bugs. |
| 13:51.18 | kenlyric | yup, skynet is forming. |
| 13:51.32 | Kivin | lol kenlyric |
| 13:51.43 | Kivin | i'm certainly going to try this when servers come back up |
| 13:51.43 | Orionshock | i need to sleep before i kill someone... |
| 13:51.54 | Josh_Borke | Orionshock: hm, i'm not so sure you can't use a method... |
| 13:53.23 | Orionshock | it might be something specific to the GUI lib, not sure.. but it didn't work too well. |
| 13:53.56 | Orionshock | ie i have a button, i can't do button:OnClick(...) doSomethingHere() end |
| 13:54.51 | Orionshock | has to be button:RegisterCallBack("OnClick", function() doSomethingHere() end) |
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| 13:56.19 | Fin | kenlyric: fantastic, isn't it! |
| 13:56.42 | kenlyric | i, for one, will welcome our time in the Matrix |
| 13:57.01 | Fin | we really are living in a fucking comedy all of our very own! the whole world! starring us |
| 13:57.23 | Fin | who knew! |
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| 13:58.44 | Ellipsis` | I knew |
| 13:58.54 | Ellipsis` | I mean, it's obvious with your movie-star looks, you had to be famous |
| 13:59.06 | Fin | oh no |
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| 13:59.36 | Fin | I play the dim witted fool who deservedly gets kicked from scene to scene |
| 14:00.02 | neenee | I just operate the lights. |
| 14:00.11 | neenee | I turn them on in the morning, and off in the evening. |
| 14:00.12 | Fin | when they can't get the real star, I mean |
| 14:00.21 | Fin | always the understudy, never the limelight |
| 14:00.50 | Ellipsis` | that's no session cookie...don't you go letting it expire |
| 14:01.03 | kenlyric | some eyedrops in the water make every understudy a STAR |
| 14:01.11 | kenlyric | except on CSI, where it kills you. |
| 14:01.49 | Fin | that's because the criminals on CSI don't *watch* CSI |
| 14:01.50 | Fin | fools! |
| 14:02.02 | Fin | I'd definitely watch CSI if I was a proper crim |
| 14:02.34 | kenlyric | some of them do. |
| 14:02.46 | Fin | no! |
| 14:02.46 | neenee | They show CSI in jail? |
| 14:03.01 | CIA-8 | 03jerry 07jerry * r57126 10Grid/Grid/ (9 files): |
| 14:03.01 | CIA-8 | Grid: (branch) |
| 14:03.01 | CIA-8 | _ Optimization to the GridRange module. |
| 14:03.01 | CIA-8 | _ Add an option to the GridStatusRange module to change the range to track. |
| 14:03.01 | CIA-8 | _ Changed the minimum value to wait between Range checks from 0.5 seconds to 0.1. |
| 14:03.02 | kenlyric | most crimes are committed outside of jail. |
| 14:03.11 | Fin | ahaa, I see, very good, yes. well, they can watch all they like from there, silly criminals. |
| 14:03.26 | Fin | crimes: OF FASHION? |
| 14:03.39 | Fin | no? |
| 14:03.40 | Fin | OK |
| 14:03.51 | kenlyric | Fin: you could be david carouso. |
| 14:03.52 | nevcairiel | i've always wondered .. who is jerry anyway? does he come here? |
| 14:03.59 | kenlyric | and no, i'm not going to try to spell his name right. |
| 14:04.12 | Fin | I know not of this carouso |
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| 14:04.17 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: no, he doesn't come here usually, and he's the author of the original minigroup |
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| 14:04.31 | Josh_Borke | or was it watchdog? |
| 14:04.33 | Fin | is he a nice person, kind, and loving towards his family? |
| 14:04.36 | neenee | I was hmm.. Who was I |
| 14:04.38 | Fin | does he give generously? |
| 14:04.39 | kenlyric | he's the godfather of grunge? |
| 14:04.41 | kenlyric | I mean grid? |
| 14:04.49 | neenee | *gets the name* One moment. |
| 14:04.52 | Fin | que |
| 14:05.21 | Fin | that's grade! ahaha! |
| 14:05.28 | Fin | did you see what I did there? did you? |
| 14:05.42 | nevcairiel | imho gil grissom > david caruso |
| 14:05.51 | Fin | it was like I was saying "that's *great*", but I used the "grid" sound instead |
| 14:05.52 | Fin | ahaha |
| 14:06.24 | Fin | yeah, that's great, this is graet |
| 14:06.27 | Fin | -ae+ea |
| 14:06.35 | neenee | Ah yes |
| 14:06.39 | neenee | I played Horatio Caine |
| 14:06.41 | neenee | That's it ) |
| 14:06.42 | neenee | *:) |
| 14:06.47 | neenee | But that's months ago |
| 14:06.56 | nevcairiel | thats david caruso :P |
| 14:07.26 | nevcairiel | his csi name is even worth to type, thats why we dont do it :) |
| 14:07.49 | kenlyric | sunglasses |
| 14:07.52 | kenlyric | just call him sunglasses |
| 14:07.57 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:07.59 | neenee | I was sunglasses |
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| 14:08.06 | neenee | Nah |
| 14:08.08 | kenlyric | grissom is the most of awesome of awesome |
| 14:08.10 | neenee | I was Horatio Caine |
| 14:08.10 | Fin | hey, so, this gangster snowman walks into a bar and the barman says to him "we don't want no trouble in here man! we ain't got no beef!", or something, and the snowman says "hey, no, don't worry man. I'm cool." |
| 14:08.14 | neenee | Nah, Grissom died |
| 14:08.15 | Fin | ahaha! |
| 14:08.24 | Fin | hey wasn't that grade! |
| 14:08.25 | Fin | ahaha |
| 14:08.26 | neenee | And we covered it up |
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| 14:09.47 | kenlyric | i'm really pissed off at CSI right now. |
| 14:09.56 | kenlyric | because of SUDDEN DRUG ADDICT |
| 14:10.05 | evl\Blend | same :( |
| 14:10.12 | neenee | drug addict? |
| 14:10.29 | neenee | I never watch the show, I only watched to get into my role, but those were old episodes |
| 14:10.29 | nevcairiel | mm i think i didnt watch the latest ep |
| 14:10.37 | Fin | what's that? and shouldn't it be SDA? |
| 14:10.37 | kenlyric | the last two |
| 14:10.41 | neenee | So my profile might be out of date |
| 14:10.48 | Xion` | CSINY is teh best nowadays |
| 14:10.50 | kenlyric | and the preview at the end of the comedy episode. |
| 14:10.50 | neenee | Am I a drug addict now? |
| 14:10.58 | kenlyric | Xion`: you jump off a roof for your blasphemy |
| 14:11.07 | neenee | Is Caine a drug addict now? |
| 14:11.12 | kenlyric | I said CSI |
| 14:11.16 | kenlyric | not CSI: sunglasses |
| 14:11.19 | neenee | Ah |
| 14:11.19 | kenlyric | or CSI: grey |
| 14:11.24 | Xion` | Miami is the worst, let's just agree on that |
| 14:11.26 | nevcairiel | i've never watched CSI:NY |
| 14:11.27 | neenee | Good, I'm still cool then |
| 14:11.30 | neenee | Hipper than hip. |
| 14:11.31 | nevcairiel | only miami and LV |
| 14:11.36 | neenee | Shooting the breeze |
| 14:11.50 | kenlyric | I like miami if I can either ignore david or boggle at the fact that he gets paid for it. |
| 14:12.06 | kenlyric | it's pretty to watch in HD |
| 14:12.15 | Xion` | Miami is moving dangerousley close to my "I should probably stop watching this" list |
| 14:12.32 | evl\Blend | rofl @ miami |
| 14:12.48 | evl\Blend | that oneliner youtube with horatio sums up how ridiculous the actors in miami is |
| 14:13.09 | neenee | I think such a silly movie could be made of every show. |
| 14:13.15 | neenee | Because every character has one-liners. |
| 14:13.17 | kenlyric | every time david caruso is on screen I boggle at the fact he gets paid for it. |
| 14:13.21 | neenee | There's just a lot of context around it |
| 14:13.38 | kenlyric | also, his scoliosis is getting worse. |
| 14:13.40 | evl\Blend | Well horatio uses the same tone of voice for all his punchlines |
| 14:13.49 | neenee | Well, many characters do |
| 14:13.53 | evl\Blend | and he sounds like he's really acting hard to be mr. drama |
| 14:14.15 | kenlyric | like I said. Peterson > * |
| 14:14.17 | neenee | I think you just watched that youtube movie too often |
| 14:15.23 | evl\Blend | There aren't nerds like grissom in the others making them pale uninteresting copies |
| 14:15.40 | neenee | They are depending on what you like or not. |
| 14:15.44 | neenee | It's personal preference |
| 14:15.58 | kenlyric | there was one nerd. |
| 14:16.01 | kenlyric | he got shot dead |
| 14:16.31 | kenlyric | I like the ridiculously fake computer on CSI miami. |
| 14:16.38 | neenee | 'shot dead'. |
| 14:16.41 | neenee | .. |
| 14:17.10 | kenlyric | "they're hacking into the computer remotely!" |
| 14:17.15 | kenlyric | uh, turn of the wireless card? |
| 14:17.18 | kenlyric | *off |
| 14:17.32 | neenee | "They're right there in front of you hacking into the system!" |
| 14:18.30 | kenlyric | I also enjoy their police station made entire out of clear glass. |
| 14:18.41 | Xion` | and all those effects when they look something up, like the text panning in from the left and the photo from the right etc when they check fingerprints/DNA |
| 14:18.52 | kenlyric | and all cop shows where they victims and suspects can pass each other in the hallway. |
| 14:18.57 | kenlyric | that's crackerjack police station design. |
| 14:19.04 | neenee | The only thing more silly than that youtube movie is the impression by Jim Carrey |
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| 14:21.37 | kenlyric | I also enjoy CSI: DC |
| 14:21.51 | kenlyric | except it's on Fox and called Bones |
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| 14:22.28 | nevcairiel | Bones is great |
| 14:22.41 | kenlyric | indeedy |
| 14:23.12 | Xion` | I tried to watch Bones once, but failed |
| 14:23.22 | kenlyric | couldn't operate the remote control? |
| 14:23.29 | kenlyric | UHF knob broken? |
| 14:23.57 | Xion` | just couldn't stand it |
| 14:24.01 | Gngsk | kenlyric is old |
| 14:24.37 | kenlyric | I like characters like Bones and Grissom. They're like what I would be if I had more career motivation. |
| 14:24.53 | kenlyric | Gngsk: everyone knows UHF. it's an infamous movie. |
| 14:24.59 | kenlyric | infamous meaning "more than famous" |
| 14:25.04 | neenee | Yup, great movie ) |
| 14:25.09 | Gngsk | yeah, but most people don't know it related to a knob |
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| 14:26.06 | Fin | actually I think infamous is one of those words that's often used to mean the wrong thing |
| 14:26.12 | kenlyric | uh. |
| 14:26.19 | Fin | or, if you look at it another way, it's taken on a new meaning |
| 14:26.23 | kenlyric | ~fail Fin |
| 14:26.23 | purl | Fin: Fail. |
| 14:26.26 | Fin | it means having a bad reputation |
| 14:26.30 | Gngsk | ~bail |
| 14:26.52 | Gngsk | ~dictionary infamous |
| 14:26.52 | purl | see dict infamous |
| 14:26.58 | Gngsk | ~dict infamous |
| 14:27.19 | kenlyric | Fin: http://www.moviequotes.com/repository.cgi?pg=3&tt=80586 |
| 14:27.23 | kenlyric | search for "infamous" |
| 14:27.28 | haste | Gngsk: pong again D: |
| 14:27.34 | Gngsk | oh, hi haste |
| 14:27.38 | kenlyric | ok, maybe not |
| 14:27.45 | kenlyric | the quote was posted by idiots. |
| 14:27.48 | Fin | Chip Chip Chip Chip Chip Chip Chip.....NANNY |
| 14:27.55 | Gngsk | I was wondering why when opening a container like a lockbox with butsu, you can't press escape to close loot / hide frame |
| 14:28.01 | Fin | Chip Chip Chip Chip Chip Chip Chip.....NANNY |
| 14:28.09 | kenlyric | annyway, the entire premise of the movie is that they think this guy is infamous. Meaning, "more than famous" |
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| 14:28.27 | kenlyric | it's a good linguistics joke. |
| 14:28.36 | haste | Gngsk: I have no real answer for that, other than the fact that it should run on the same code as the blizzard lootframe for that |
| 14:28.43 | Fin | actually yeah, I'd say the word's taken on new meaning :P |
| 14:28.58 | Gngsk | haste, ah well, esc works for the blizz LootFrame but not Butsu :\ |
| 14:29.02 | Fin | sorry |
| 14:29.05 | Fin | (but it's true) |
| 14:29.11 | kenlyric | Fin: really, where? |
| 14:29.18 | kenlyric | i'm pretty sure it has negative meaning still. |
| 14:29.23 | haste | Gngsk: I can look at it in around four hours or so, but I won't have access to WoW to test stuff |
| 14:29.34 | kenlyric | though, it's taken on a less criminal meaning. |
| 14:29.57 | Gngsk | haste, k, thanks |
| 14:30.06 | Fin | kenlyric: it's OK, I don't care enough about this to argue. :) |
| 14:30.08 | kenlyric | celebrities now have infamous parties. |
| 14:30.22 | kenlyric | but they're generally infamous because of how many bad things happen at them :) |
| 14:30.29 | Fin | I can see how the meaning changed subtly |
| 14:30.54 | kenlyric | blame it on Three Amigos. |
| 14:31.05 | Fin | well, it *is* their fault |
| 14:31.12 | kenlyric | it's inconceivable. |
| 14:31.35 | Fin | that's an awful book by Ben Elton |
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| 14:32.02 | Fin | </fact> |
| 14:32.28 | Fin | beer |
| 14:32.30 | Fin | I need beer |
| 14:32.40 | Fin | garcon! |
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| 14:34.57 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57127 10Ace3/tests/ (AceGUI-3.0-recycle.lua wow_api.lua): |
| 14:34.57 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 14:34.57 | CIA-8 | - ACE-83: add test case |
| 14:36.18 | Fin | fuck me |
| 14:36.34 | Fin | that thing actually works |
| 14:36.48 | Fin | that's... surprising |
| 14:37.33 | nevcairiel | what thing? |
| 14:37.48 | CIA-8 | 03mokhtar * r57128 10GridDynamicZoneSwitch/ (. GridDynamicZoneSwitch.lua GridDynamicZoneSwitch.toc): |
| 14:37.48 | CIA-8 | GridDynamicZoneSwitch: |
| 14:37.49 | CIA-8 | - Initial Commit : GridDynamicZoneSwitch allows you to specify which layout / profile to use when zoning in a specific instance |
| 14:37.54 | Fin | that thing related to playing Windows Media Player to speed up the framerate in WoW |
| 14:38.03 | Ellipsis | yeah, it does legitimately work on some systems |
| 14:38.06 | Fin | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1739394019&sid=1&pageNo=12 |
| 14:38.10 | Ellipsis | unfortunately not mine =[ |
| 14:38.21 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 14:38.27 | Fin | I didn't even have a framerate problem before, my system's awesome, but it actually makes a difference |
| 14:38.28 | nevcairiel | i use that standalone tweak program |
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| 14:38.45 | nevcairiel | only affect i notice, it greately speeds up zoning into instances |
| 14:39.07 | Fin | yeah, that's what I'm running... jesus lord on high how retarded is this whole situation, I think I may just have to blow my fucking brains out it's so massively stupid. life, fuck you! |
| 14:39.15 | nevcairiel | http://www.viribusunitis.net/uploads/Nevcairiel/srcdsfpsboost.zip <-- if you dont want to waste memory on WMP, same effect. even if source if you dont trust my .exe and want to recompile it :p |
| 14:39.42 | Fin | the link in the thread didn't work so I Googled it |
| 14:39.44 | Fin | have to say |
| 14:39.49 | Fin | felt a bit weird actually running it the first time |
| 14:39.51 | CIA-8 | 03mokhtar * r57129 10GridDynamicZoneSwitch/GridDynamicZoneSwitch.lua: |
| 14:39.51 | CIA-8 | GridDynamicZoneSwitch: |
| 14:39.51 | CIA-8 | - Changed order of options |
| 14:39.52 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin all |
| 14:40.04 | Fin | not something I normally do, run random .exes I've downloaded off a previously unknown website |
| 14:40.10 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:40.14 | nevcairiel | i got that one from fileplanet |
| 14:40.18 | nevcairiel | so i felt kinda secure |
| 14:40.58 | Fin | I don't trust them at all, it's all user uploads... but hey whatever, I figure I deserve to get infected if I'm actually stupid enough to run the .exe, so it'd really be alright if it was a virus |
| 14:41.33 | Fin | argc |
| 14:41.57 | nevcairiel | ya sure its user uploads, but its been up there for quite a long time, i was thinking if there is a virus in it, it would either have been reported .. or my virus scanner would pick it up |
| 14:42.21 | Fin | so, like, how long's it going to take to actually get this *intentionally* as part of the software we've bought and paid for? |
| 14:42.29 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 14:42.34 | Fin | yeah, definitely safer than the site I downloaded my copy from :) |
| 14:42.38 | nevcairiel | they responded to the nagle algorithm pretty fast |
| 14:43.01 | Fin | nagle algorithm? |
| 14:43.12 | Fin | aha |
| 14:43.37 | nevcairiel | the algorithm to save on traffic in tcp, but destroys some latency |
| 14:43.42 | nevcairiel | so they disabled it in 2.3.2 now |
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| 14:44.30 | nevcairiel | that reminds me |
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| 14:44.49 | nevcairiel | anyone from US got a status on todays maint and possible patches? |
| 14:45.36 | Fin | I remember when I first read about increasing TCP window sizes, it was one of those "huh, yeah..." moments... |
| 14:45.56 | Fin | the throughput you can get on a teeny tiny line is incredible if you tweak it right |
| 14:46.04 | nevcairiel | hehe yeah |
| 14:46.11 | nevcairiel | altho i tweak my lines for latency mostly |
| 14:46.16 | Fin | me too |
| 14:46.23 | nevcairiel | or even, for latency while under heavy load |
| 14:46.44 | nevcairiel | QoS on small ack packets |
| 14:46.47 | Fin | just as it should be |
| 14:47.05 | vithos | US realms are currently down, the login news says 5am - 11 am pacific time |
| 14:47.08 | Fin | coming through! ssh packets! get the fuck out the way, everything else! |
| 14:47.30 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 14:47.31 | Fin | oh dear, I can't believe I just imitated a delivery guy with some ssh packets |
| 14:47.35 | nevcairiel | i hate it when ssh lags |
| 14:47.51 | nevcairiel | vithos: so no extended maint eh? mm too bad |
| 14:47.58 | evl\Blend | <Fin> oh dear, I can't believe I just imitated a delivery guy with some ssh packets <- quote of the day |
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| 14:49.21 | haste | nevcairiel: always fun to code over ssh when you have ~30 sec lag |
| 14:49.40 | nevcairiel | yeah you just type away and "d'oh" 30s later :P |
| 14:50.36 | krka | are you bored today fin? |
| 14:51.43 | Fin | you have no idea |
| 14:52.01 | Fin | unemployment is not good for me |
| 14:52.07 | Pkekyo| | wish I was good at coding so I could remake LootTracker :p |
| 14:52.55 | break19 | wish I was good at coding so I could do something productive for a change |
| 14:53.14 | Pkekyo| | break19: go learn to dance :) |
| 14:54.00 | Fin | really |
| 14:54.04 | Fin | I'm shooting your feet |
| 14:54.10 | Fin | and you're hopping |
| 14:54.17 | Fin | cartoons |
| 14:54.37 | break19 | please... |
| 14:54.57 | Fin | 12 gold? pepper? |
| 14:54.57 | Osstia | Pkekyo|, how did your world without celebs paper turn out? |
| 14:55.07 | Osstia | would we survuve? |
| 14:55.13 | break19 | 7-3/8s birdshot, from a 12g shotgun.. hurts.. :p |
| 14:55.20 | Fin | I'm afraid you're in the wrong western cartoon starring a mexican cat and a no-good but lovable cat sherrif |
| 14:55.31 | break19 | wont kill ya, but will damn sure strip some skin off your butt |
| 14:55.49 | Fin | say "heeey, meester" |
| 14:55.51 | Fin | say it |
| 14:55.54 | vithos | aggghh 75% packetloss makes me QQ |
| 14:56.00 | Fin | go on |
| 14:56.07 | break19 | meester feen! why yous wantin me to say heey |
| 14:56.08 | Fin | oh, OK don't |
| 14:56.14 | Fin | ahah! awesome :) |
| 14:56.18 | break19 | happy now? :P |
| 14:56.25 | Fin | 5 points! |
| 14:56.30 | break19 | WOOT |
| 14:56.33 | Fin | thank you |
| 14:56.47 | kebinusan | mmm Mokthar coming through with all the wonderful grid addons |
| 14:56.57 | break19 | grid lags me. |
| 14:57.02 | break19 | dunno why tho |
| 14:57.18 | break19 | i just use ozraid, myself. |
| 14:57.28 | neenee | I don't use any raid addons :) |
| 14:57.33 | neenee | Not even threat-something or other |
| 14:57.33 | kebinusan | Love grid |
| 14:57.42 | break19 | i love ozraid :) |
| 14:57.43 | neenee | And I'm a priest - healer :) |
| 14:58.09 | nevcairiel | when i used grid for a while, i noticed that lag too |
| 14:58.18 | neenee | I didn't have problems with grid when I used it |
| 14:58.19 | vithos | i loved grid and pitbull, but i went back to using x-perl sadly. doesn't lag me like those two do |
| 14:58.19 | nevcairiel | it seemed to update the healthbars on a fixed schedule |
| 14:58.22 | break19 | my pally has 3 windows set up.. window 1 and 2 are groups 1-4, 5-8 respectively.. window 3 is everyone under 75%, within 30yds of me |
| 14:58.23 | neenee | But then I didn't use grid-addons |
| 14:58.25 | Fin | man, I wish someone had told me earlier that CyCircled didn't necessarily have to make your buttons circled |
| 14:58.31 | neenee | pitbull didn't lag me either |
| 14:58.33 | break19 | under 75% health, that is. |
| 14:59.13 | break19 | neenee: my machine is pretty touchy to addons that use the CPU.. |
| 14:59.19 | neenee | ah okay |
| 14:59.21 | vithos | but you know what really lagged me more than anything else? fubar plugins that periodically query the friends/guildlist frames |
| 14:59.39 | neenee | Yeah, I had that too Vithos, long ago |
| 14:59.46 | break19 | 1.4ghz G4, with a 32M radeon mobility 9550 video card. |
| 14:59.59 | vithos | it's really weird, now i can run in cpu profiling mode without any performance problem |
| 15:00.19 | Fin | please please please please please please please someone who does a quest addon add an option to set arbitrary categories, please please please? |
| 15:00.26 | break19 | geez, if I turn on profiling, my fps drops to around 1-2fps |
| 15:00.38 | break19 | i need a new machine.. heh |
| 15:01.14 | Fin | I fuckin hate having to look through 20 quests to try and remember which ones are actually for the zone I'm in but listed in the category of the zone I got it, or just "Orgrimmar" or something |
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| 15:01.41 | vithos | heh i know what you mean fin. |
| 15:02.04 | Fin | MarsQuestOrganizer does *exactly* what I want, but it breaks all the other quest addons I've got |
| 15:02.10 | Fin | well, some of them |
| 15:02.14 | Fin | Quixote at least |
| 15:02.37 | kenlyric | I'm pretty sure kem said he's working on it. |
| 15:02.37 | break19 | i wish I could find a rubber strap to wrap around my kid's head to hold the pacifier in her mouth when she's feelin fussy... heh |
| 15:02.47 | kenlyric | to fixup blizzard's broken categories. |
| 15:02.54 | Fin | ooh, really? |
| 15:03.01 | kenlyric | because I complained about that too. |
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| 15:03.03 | Fin | Kemayo is like, one of my heroes |
| 15:03.09 | Fin | or heroines, I don't know |
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| 15:03.18 | Fin | herois maybe, compromise |
| 15:03.19 | Fin | anyway |
| 15:03.20 | Fin | yeah |
| 15:03.44 | Fin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.47 | Fin | +I |
| 15:04.15 | vithos | i'd also like to see something like lightheaded, but with the useful wowhead data instead of the useless comments |
| 15:04.32 | Fin | have you tried MobMap? |
| 15:04.38 | vithos | never heard of it |
| 15:04.42 | nevcairiel | imho the comments are pretty helpfull |
| 15:04.44 | Fin | http://www.mobmap.de/ |
| 15:04.48 | cladhaire | the comments are far from useless |
| 15:04.53 | Fin | yeah, I think so too |
| 15:04.59 | cladhaire | but whatevs |
| 15:05.06 | vithos | well yeah, they're not useless |
| 15:05.15 | vithos | when people post coordinates in them |
| 15:05.16 | Fin | I wish the rating threshold were set a little lower though :) I'd like more comments available |
| 15:05.16 | break19 | <3 Lightheaded+tomtom |
| 15:05.17 | kenlyric | they're pretty useless |
| 15:05.23 | kenlyric | unless you get coords |
| 15:05.27 | kenlyric | and coords are always like on page 27 |
| 15:05.28 | vithos | but posting coordinates on wowhead is pretty silly to begin with |
| 15:05.29 | Fin | also! hey cladhaire! I have an eensy weensy bug report for you |
| 15:05.41 | vithos | since..it's wowhead, so you can just look up wowhead's position data |
| 15:05.43 | break19 | uh oh |
| 15:05.45 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: just skip through all pages until you see the blue coords text =P |
| 15:05.50 | break19 | i know how clad responds to bug reports |
| 15:05.53 | kenlyric | that takes a long time |
| 15:05.58 | kenlyric | and I have to do it everytime |
| 15:05.59 | Fin | yeah but they're clickable! and they *are* useful, especially for telling what's been buffed and nerfed and stuff after 2.3 |
| 15:06.02 | cladhaire | depends on how they're presented. |
| 15:06.05 | break19 | :) |
| 15:06.11 | Josh_Borke | ~lart cladhaire |
| 15:06.11 | purl | eats cladhaire and falls over dead |
| 15:06.13 | cladhaire | vithos: yeah and then you have an SV containign ALL of wowheads database |
| 15:06.17 | cladhaire | it would be shut down in 2 sconds |
| 15:06.36 | cladhaire | there are limits |
| 15:06.38 | cladhaire | and reasonable ones at that |
| 15:07.04 | Fin | cladhaire: whenever there's a quest line shown in LH, it doesn't show any of the individual quest names until you click on one of them, which mostly means the quest details being displayed changes (because you don't know which one in the quest line is the current one yet) |
| 15:07.22 | Fin | perhaps an in-game wikipedia |
| 15:07.25 | vithos | yeah, spidering their data would be too much, but i wish they'd do it through the wowhead client |
| 15:07.36 | Pkekyo| | OsstiaPkekyo|, how did your world without celebs paper turn out? <------ got deadline extended to new years eve :p |
| 15:07.44 | cladhaire | Fin: that isn't a bug |
| 15:07.45 | Osstia | woot |
| 15:07.48 | cladhaire | the data isn't loaded until you request it |
| 15:07.55 | cladhaire | load that data unconditionally, and it'll always show it |
| 15:07.55 | Josh_Borke | well it should be! |
| 15:08.18 | cladhaire | should be a bug? |
| 15:08.19 | nevcairiel | is there a toggle to always load the questname data? |
| 15:08.27 | Josh_Borke | what are we talking about anyway? |
| 15:08.30 | Josh_Borke | :-D |
| 15:08.35 | Pkekyo| | what is this LH you are talking about? |
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| 15:09.08 | dylanm | LightHeaded I'm guessing. |
| 15:09.08 | break19 | yea, there is.. edit the respective tocs and remove LoadOnDemand from them |
| 15:09.12 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: LH = Lightheaded = awesomeness |
| 15:09.16 | break19 | voila. they always load |
| 15:09.17 | Fin | couldn't, uhm, LH just load the data whenever I open the quest information frame that it shows? |
| 15:09.21 | nevcairiel | thats not toggle = |
| 15:09.24 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: elaborate? |
| 15:09.25 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: no |
| 15:09.37 | nevcairiel | Fin: no it loads the data when you click the quest id :) |
| 15:09.38 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: What more is there to say? :-) |
| 15:09.44 | Codayus | I wonder... |
| 15:09.47 | Codayus | ~lightheaded |
| 15:09.48 | purl | i heard lightheaded is an addon by cladhaire which displays quest comments from wowhead.com in-game. You can download LightHeaded at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 15:09.58 | Codayus | ZOMG, purl knows everything. |
| 15:10.05 | break19 | ~everything |
| 15:10.16 | Fin | nevcairiel: but I don't know which one is the quest ID yet, so I end up getting some other information, then having to figure out which quest I was on before, so I can change back |
| 15:10.21 | break19 | no it doesnt. see? |
| 15:10.31 | Pkekyo| | and this isn't in violation of terms of use or anything? |
| 15:10.59 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Anyhow, look at a quest in your log, and there's all the wowhead comments in a frame next to it. Works well with QuestFu too. And if there's coordinates, click them, and if you have the right other addons, you get a waypoint. <3 |
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| 15:11.30 | break19 | TomTom = hawt |
| 15:11.39 | Fin | well, I've made my bug report, if noone else finds it annoying enough to change then I can live with that |
| 15:12.03 | Codayus | I haven't tried TomTom yet, just the Cartographer integration... I should though. |
| 15:12.06 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: does it work with nquestlog? |
| 15:12.07 | break19 | i especially like the little "glowy" animation when a new waypoint is added. makes me wanna touch myself. |
| 15:12.11 | cladhaire | Fin: aye, i understand the difficulty |
| 15:12.15 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: No idea. |
| 15:12.17 | cladhaire | Fin: but its a large database |
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| 15:13.21 | Pkekyo| | "and if you have the right other addons, you get a waypoint. <3" care to elaborate? |
| 15:13.41 | kenlyric | break19 elaborated on the very next line |
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| 15:13.54 | nevcairiel | just get tomtom or cartographer and you get a waypoint |
| 15:14.00 | kenlyric | oh, you don't need both? |
| 15:14.03 | Codayus | Click a coordinate, and if you have Cartographer, you get a waypoint on your map, and an arrow in the middle of your screen, etc. You know...waypoint. |
| 15:14.04 | break19 | here's an idea, however, fin.. add some code that automatically loads the appropiate faction, level addon at login.. |
| 15:14.16 | Pkekyo| | gort cart allready |
| 15:14.18 | Codayus | Apparently TomTom does the same thing for people with Cart. Possibly better, I dunno. |
| 15:14.39 | Pkekyo| | yeah, was referring to the 'right other addons' part when I asked you to elaborate |
| 15:14.54 | break19 | or, make a plugin for LH, called LightHeaded_SmartQuests which simply checks the level and faction of the player, then loads the appropiate data addon |
| 15:15.01 | break19 | which, I might do, actually |
| 15:15.02 | Codayus | I run WoW full screen and windowed, so looking something up on Wowhead is very fast for me anyhow - Lighthead is still surprisingly awesome. |
| 15:15.29 | Fin | break19: I would've thought it might be simpler to load the quest data when opening the LH Quest info frame for that particular quest - but that's just my assumption |
| 15:15.31 | kenlyric | some kind of filter to only show comments with coords would be kinda awesome. |
| 15:15.53 | Codayus | kenlyric: *shrug* Lot of good info in the wowhead comments sometimes. |
| 15:15.57 | kenlyric | right. |
| 15:15.59 | Fin | kenlyric, have you tried MobMap? |
| 15:16.00 | kenlyric | so a filter. |
| 15:16.02 | break19 | fin, possibly, but it'd require the same coding as what my suggestion was, really |
| 15:16.08 | Fin | it's seriously wicked cool |
| 15:16.12 | Codayus | Ah, right, togglable. |
| 15:16.51 | Fin | cladhaire: would you accept a patch that did that, if it's actually within my abilities to code? |
| 15:17.02 | cladhaire | that added a toggle, absolutely |
| 15:17.02 | vithos | Fin: i'm trying to get mobmap but the packetloss is making it hard. does it know quest->mob/object relationships? |
| 15:17.14 | cladhaire | shouldn't be horrible |
| 15:17.20 | cladhaire | just add a slash command and a toggle |
| 15:17.43 | Codayus | I checked out mobmaps website the other day, and it was awful. |
| 15:17.47 | Fin | vithos: yes |
| 15:17.51 | Codayus | Didn't have any info on what the addon did, or was... |
| 15:17.58 | vithos | awesome, sounds like exactly what i want |
| 15:18.03 | Fin | vithos: it also knows about drop rates, mob locations, mob paths, and a whole lot more |
| 15:18.15 | Fin | vithos: is the packet loss at your end? |
| 15:18.21 | vithos | nope, it's 4 hops in |
| 15:18.35 | Fin | Codayus: yeah, I think he relies on Curse to keep the main info about it |
| 15:18.46 | Fin | but there's a nice easy downlaod page on the site |
| 15:18.50 | Codayus | Yeah, I was going to google it to find a description. |
| 15:18.56 | Codayus | But then ADD kicked in. |
| 15:19.03 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 15:19.13 | Fin | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7190/ |
| 15:19.21 | Fin | it's got a neat little installer + updater built in as well, dead handy |
| 15:19.29 | Fin | although, it's not perfect |
| 15:19.33 | kenlyric | so cladhaire: is tomtom required for waypoints if you have cartographer? |
| 15:19.34 | Codayus | AH KEYLOGGER |
| 15:19.38 | Codayus | kenlyric: No |
| 15:19.46 | Fin | but, worth recommending in my opinion, which is why I'm recommending it |
| 15:19.57 | Fin | honestly, together with Waypoints and LightHeaded, it's cheat central |
| 15:19.57 | Codayus | Fin: Heh |
| 15:20.00 | kenlyric | ah, I thought you said you weren't sure. sorry. |
| 15:20.29 | Codayus | kenlyric: Naa, I'm not sure what TomTom does, as I haven't tried it. More-or-less what Cart does, I think. It might well be cooler. |
| 15:20.40 | kenlyric | now I just need a mod to tell me which quests are worth doing and in which groups to do them. |
| 15:20.45 | Codayus | kenlyric: OH! |
| 15:20.47 | Codayus | TourGuide |
| 15:20.51 | kenlyric | a working moed |
| 15:20.56 | kenlyric | err, finished mod :) |
| 15:20.59 | Fin | aha! MobMap can help with that also :) |
| 15:21.19 | Codayus | *shrug* Most of the guides are there. |
| 15:21.19 | Fin | you can search for quests by zone, and it highlights them according to level and whether you've already done it or not |
| 15:21.24 | Fin | also! my latest favourite is QuestHelper :) |
| 15:21.32 | kenlyric | really? |
| 15:21.35 | Fin | it's still being developed, but it's like awesome on a stick |
| 15:21.41 | kenlyric | last time I looked it had nothing past 20 |
| 15:21.45 | Codayus | kenlyric: I think so? |
| 15:21.48 | Codayus | Oh, it's got *LOTS*. |
| 15:21.53 | Fin | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/ |
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| 15:22.11 | Fin | I use it all the time, I'm level 56 atm |
| 15:22.19 | Fin | been using it since uhm, 40something? |
| 15:22.25 | Codayus | Some TBC stuff is patchy, but the zangarmarsh guide is good, and I think I saw a netherstorm guide. And it's got lots of plagueland I noticed... |
| 15:22.25 | Fin | but it's very incomplete still |
| 15:22.31 | Fin | tasty but incomplete |
| 15:22.52 | Fin | TourGuide was a much nicer implementation though |
| 15:22.56 | Fin | it just broke on me :( |
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| 15:23.20 | kenlyric | I'm good with outlands, because quests flow generally more naturally there. |
| 15:23.30 | Fin | it's smaler |
| 15:23.31 | Fin | +l |
| 15:23.42 | Fin | less running around between continents delivering sodding vials of ooze |
| 15:24.09 | Codayus | kenlyric: I was surprised how useful the zangarmarsh guide was...when your not yet 70, a bit of quest stacking goes a long way. But overall, yeah. |
| 15:24.29 | Fin | stupid quest, that, having to go to the three corners of the world for vials of stuff that might not even contain enough "perfect" samples to complete the quest |
| 15:24.39 | kenlyric | heh |
| 15:25.07 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Beta * r57130 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigRegistry-3.0/AceConfigRegistry-3.0.lua: |
| 15:25.07 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceConfigRegistry: |
| 15:25.07 | CIA-8 | - Add CallbackHandler for NotifyChange |
| 15:25.07 | CIA-8 | - :NotifyChange("optionsTableName") |
| 15:25.07 | CIA-8 | - AceConfigDialog will have to register for the "ConfigTableChange" callback. gogo Nargiddley :) |
| 15:25.20 | break19 | what you guys think of this spec, for aspiring offtank/dps warrior http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZEV0V0xRVuZcitoI0z |
| 15:25.43 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 15:26.22 | Codayus | 5% parry is awfully useful if you can find the points. |
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| 15:26.41 | neenee | I doubt you need stun |
| 15:26.51 | Codayus | What content level is this? You mean OT like...2nd Kara tank? Or...what? |
| 15:27.00 | break19 | neenee: i also plan to do some PvP with it.. yea. kara |
| 15:27.04 | Codayus | Also, booming voice = fail. |
| 15:27.05 | neenee | ah. |
| 15:27.10 | neenee | PvP/Offtank/DPS |
| 15:27.10 | Codayus | Really, really, don't take that. Really. |
| 15:27.12 | neenee | oO |
| 15:27.24 | kenlyric | http://elitistjerks.com/576230-post8.html |
| 15:27.36 | kenlyric | a helpful guide |
| 15:27.42 | Codayus | heh |
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| 15:27.52 | break19 | neenee: yea |
| 15:27.56 | neenee | I'd go more into Protection myself, staying alive is more important than killing in PvP I think, as most others are DPS-specced already |
| 15:28.02 | break19 | booming voice bad? ok.. |
| 15:29.22 | break19 | this better? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LmZVV0VMxRVhZcitoI0z |
| 15:29.30 | kenlyric | precision is probably kinda silly at 70 for pvp if you're going to have a shield on. |
| 15:29.43 | break19 | k |
| 15:29.51 | kenlyric | because if you can't make 5% hit out of gear, your gear might be broken. |
| 15:29.54 | break19 | never had a 70 warrior, so kinda new.. :P |
| 15:29.58 | break19 | he's up to 57 atm |
| 15:31.38 | ag` | I don't want exams!!!!1 |
| 15:33.21 | break19 | heh |
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| 15:34.37 | Pkekyo| | "You have entered too many instances lately" WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?! |
| 15:34.53 | [dRaCo] | 4 instance resets per hour |
| 15:35.07 | Ellipsis | l2farm |
| 15:35.19 | Ellipsis | surprised you never encountered that earlier o.O |
| 15:35.30 | kenlyric | that happened to me once when I entered six instances in 30 minutes. |
| 15:35.36 | [Ammo] | I thought it was 5 resets per hour |
| 15:35.37 | kenlyric | [dRaCo]: not just resets. |
| 15:35.40 | [Ammo] | or enters |
| 15:35.43 | [Ammo] | at least |
| 15:35.51 | kenlyric | it's just a max number of instance IDs that you can have. |
| 15:36.29 | kenlyric | I think entrance is limited to four. |
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| 15:37.27 | kenlyric | no, i'm bad at my math. it's five. |
| 15:37.34 | Codayus | Gah, stupid connection. |
| 15:38.11 | break19 | ok.. how does this look then? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVZVV0VbxRVZcitoIMz |
| 15:38.13 | Aeyan | break19, personally, I think 35/5/21 is better for the pvp/dps/occasional tank sort of hybrid spec |
| 15:38.26 | Pkekyo| | so basicly, I have to wait for a bloody hour until I can get in there? |
| 15:38.27 | break19 | arms/prot.. hmmmm |
| 15:38.56 | Aeyan | But, I was fury and main tank for my group of friend up until Outland too so I can't say it doesn't work =P |
| 15:39.40 | break19 | heh |
| 15:39.46 | Codayus | break19: I kinda like the standardish 5/41/15 or 41/5/15 builds... |
| 15:40.20 | break19 | coda, yea.. Im not much on lookalike builds, as you can see.. I like to be a bit different yet still be effective for what I plan to do. |
| 15:40.42 | break19 | for instance, my 70 hunter is a SV/MM hybrid with expose weakness 3/3 :P |
| 15:40.54 | Codayus | 26 points in prot is a lot, especially since all the good talents are either right at the top (defiance, imp shield block) or the bottom (shield slam, vitality, 1h spec, devestate, focused rage) |
| 15:41.27 | break19 | but I like the 5s stun (or hate, when it's used one ME) heh |
| 15:41.40 | Codayus | Yeah, I guess it's good for pvp |
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| 15:42.10 | Codayus | But you have to ask yourself if it's worth giving up, say, MS. :-) |
| 15:42.20 | Aeyan | You can have both |
| 15:42.27 | Aeyan | You just have to give up other fun stuff |
| 15:42.35 | Aeyan | Like Enrage and Flurry, hehe |
| 15:42.58 | break19 | speaking of my hunter.. he ran (or tried to) heroic ramps last night with a full MM hunter with similar gear.. that guy sucked ass.. the tank was doin more dps, as full prot-spec war... i was just a nudge under a fire mage... |
| 15:43.23 | neenee | odd mage then |
| 15:43.31 | break19 | whats bad is.. he's a guildie... |
| 15:43.36 | Codayus | Ouch |
| 15:43.45 | neenee | What's bad is, you're bad-mouthing a guildie |
| 15:43.47 | break19 | both the mage and the hunter were fresh 70s tho |
| 15:44.00 | Codayus | That's not a huge excuse... |
| 15:44.53 | Codayus | (Speccing MM for PvE is...um...odd though. And while new 70s sometimes still have leveling builds, MM isn't a leveling build either, so... Not that MM explains being beaten by a prot warrior...) |
| 15:45.20 | break19 | Codayus: he was 0/61/0 :/ |
| 15:45.35 | RaydenU | some people just have no concept of min-max |
| 15:45.37 | Codayus | Uhhhh....yeah. I'll go with "symptom" not "cause". |
| 15:45.52 | Codayus | RaydenU: Heh, true. |
| 15:45.53 | RaydenU | a friend of mine liked to spec his mage something along the lines of ~20/20/20 |
| 15:46.10 | Pkekyo| | where's tge naxxramas entrance? |
| 15:46.14 | RaydenU | "this is a cool talent and this is a cool talent, ooh" |
| 15:46.23 | break19 | i tried to talk to him about respecing to be more useful, or bring more dps.. "Uhhh marks IS the dps line, bm is the solo line, and sv is the pvp line" wtf? |
| 15:47.07 | Codayus | Shortly after I hit 60 on my first character - a rogue - I went with the then cookiecutter PvP build of uhhh...I forget, but it involved prep. I then proceeded to run many many MANY 10 man instances. (This was well before BGs were released.) |
| 15:47.14 | break19 | no worries neenee, im not speaking his name, my guilds name, or even the name of the server.. just doin some general bitchin at ineptitude of a player I'll have to run with at times.. |
| 15:47.14 | Osstia | Pkekyo| its near the ziggurats in northern EP |
| 15:47.24 | Codayus | I had no idea what I was doing. :-( |
| 15:47.39 | Pkekyo| | northeastern? |
| 15:47.48 | Codayus | break19: I remember when that was true... So long ago... |
| 15:47.51 | break19 | Codayus: I was subt/combat at 60 |
| 15:47.52 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Just east of Strat |
| 15:47.52 | Pkekyo| | I'm at scholo now...where to go? |
| 15:47.54 | durcyn | Pkekyo|: southwest of the stratholme back door |
| 15:47.59 | break19 | with my rogue.. |
| 15:48.17 | Codayus | break19: I believe I justified prep because it let me use 2 cold bloods in the same fight. |
| 15:48.26 | Codayus | The sad thing is, I often topped damage meters in 15 man UBRS. |
| 15:48.35 | Osstia | scholo is WPl |
| 15:48.42 | Osstia | fly to Light's Hope |
| 15:48.45 | Codayus | I still recall the day I saw a priest from our servers top raid guild in... *FULL* T1. So impressive. |
| 15:48.48 | Osstia | then take the road north |
| 15:48.50 | break19 | i got a 70 rogue, 70 hunter, 57 war (right now he's arms/fury).. think I like dps? lol |
| 15:48.54 | neenee | break19: Give him constructive criticism :) |
| 15:49.04 | Osstia | it will be on the right side of the road, as you get closer to strath |
| 15:49.16 | break19 | neenee: I tried.. as I said.. he said I was wrong and he was right.. heh |
| 15:49.58 | Codayus | break19: What we do is log fights like Gruuls, and post links to WWS, and encourage people to look at and questions about the results. We don't tell people how to spec (guild rule; we're casual) but we encourage people to ask us what they can do to improve. |
| 15:50.16 | Codayus | And the nice thing about WWS parses is it makes it obvious when people do need to improve... |
| 15:50.37 | break19 | Codayus: our guild is semi-casual.. we have casuals and raiders along-side each other.. i tend to be about in the middle of that.. |
| 15:51.04 | Aeyan | break19: Balls to the wall prot, then |
| 15:51.06 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 15:51.20 | Codayus | When 1 hunter is beating another with the same gear by 400 dps, or gains 200 DPS in a single week by respeccing MM to BM... |
| 15:51.26 | break19 | I want good players beside me, but dont want anyone to demand I spec a certain way.. if my spec isnt bringing what I planned it to bring, at -that- point you can tell me what I -might- want to change.. |
| 15:51.46 | break19 | if I agree, I will.. if I dont.. piss off.. heh |
| 15:51.56 | break19 | i dont mind advice.. I hate orders |
| 15:52.13 | RaydenU | i probably wouldn't enjoy being rebuked for choosing a poor build, but i really truly enjoy analyzing builds so i'd probably try to learn as much as possible from a guildie who was trying to help me |
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| 15:52.29 | Codayus | break19: That's how we do it. If people want to bring pvp builds to raid, they can. If they're not performing up to scratch, we'll take people who are. If people want to improve, we'll help them if we can. |
| 15:52.30 | RaydenU | i've spent a lot of time looking into my shadowpriest spec and gear |
| 15:52.36 | RaydenU | probably more than enough to bug you guys :) |
| 15:52.55 | Codayus | Although in my experience, the people with the really REALLY bad specs are the ones who are least likely to seek or respond to suggestions. |
| 15:52.59 | Aeyan | My shadow priest spec was the subject of a lot of concern and research for me |
| 15:53.07 | Aeyan | Gear... eh, not so much. |
| 15:53.19 | Aeyan | Woo! Ding 70! ....*rerolls* |
| 15:53.37 | Osstia | I have a completely weird spec on my priest, but I love my priest |
| 15:53.37 | neenee | It's not re-rolling, you're not removing your character |
| 15:53.38 | break19 | RaydenU: if I perform badly, and I agree its the build, and not just some screwups I did.. well.. its time to ask around for advice.. if I feel I'm performing good in my chosen role, but -you- think I'm not... none of your business. |
| 15:53.52 | neenee | It's more of a co-rolling. |
| 15:54.04 | Aeyan | Yes, but it's a common term anyway =P |
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| 15:54.13 | break19 | rollin rollin rollin.. get them talents pwnin... WARCRAAAAAAFT |
| 15:54.16 | neenee | Common terms are often mis-used |
| 15:54.27 | Codayus | Meh, not much to analyze with spriest gear. |
| 15:54.34 | Codayus | "Let's seee.....what has the most dmg?" |
| 15:54.38 | neenee | Like 'imba' is used for anything remotely positive |
| 15:54.45 | nevcairiel | everyone says re-rolling, and no one of those really deletes their char |
| 15:54.50 | Aeyan | Yes, well, I don't use that word |
| 15:54.53 | neenee | I don't say re-rolling |
| 15:54.55 | Codayus | Although I spent a fair bit crunching numbers to try and value crit and haste, without a lot of sucess... |
| 15:55.10 | neenee | I doubt many people who play/have played D&D would either |
| 15:55.15 | Aeyan | and for most intents and purposes, I did reroll |
| 15:55.19 | Aeyan | And yeah, I have played that |
| 15:55.21 | nevcairiel | i've never changed my main character, so.. |
| 15:55.24 | neenee | :| |
| 15:55.32 | Aeyan | I sort of stopped playing my priest not long after I hit 70 |
| 15:55.47 | Aeyan | Consider it retirement and the concept is valid |
| 15:56.04 | break19 | my wife said something to me the other day.. used the word uber.. pronounced "ubber" I said "uhh, what the hell did you just say?" "what, ubber? it means like.. awesomely good or something" -scratched head- then I realized she was mispronouncing uber. |
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| 15:56.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:56.25 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 15:56.34 | neenee | I doubt she's the only one |
| 15:56.39 | Osstia | you better have gioven her a hug and a kiss and been proud that she was at least trying |
| 15:56.41 | Codayus | I managed to confuse a german friend of mine by using the word in casual conversation... |
| 15:56.54 | neenee | Look at all the people who can't spell, there must be a large group who can't speak properly either. |
| 15:57.36 | Osstia | need more DEFENCE! |
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| 15:58.16 | Aeyan | Rouge? |
| 15:58.21 | neenee | dum dee dum.. cheating with a click-my-link game.. |
| 15:58.46 | break19 | my wife speaks quite well, just, well.. unless she's heard the word pronounced.. shes not very good at sounding out words.. reading aloud has always been a problem for her.. she's one of those people that learn by hearing.. not reading.. me? if you try to tell me something I go "uhh what? write it down please" if I read it once, its in my head forever.. |
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| 15:59.50 | kenlyric | I try only to correct my wife when it will make her sound really dumb :) |
| 16:00.06 | kenlyric | she misuses the word reiterate still, I haven't broken her of it. |
| 16:00.39 | break19 | kenlyric: I only correct -my- wife in my sleep if I can help it... otherwise I get bruises.. |
| 16:01.15 | break19 | shes only 5'3", I'm 6'.. but she can w-h-o-o-p my ASS if she wanted to. lol |
| 16:02.17 | neenee | I correct my girlfriend, but not always either. |
| 16:02.19 | RaydenU | i had a weird dream this morning |
| 16:02.32 | RaydenU | i had gone blind and much of my dream was figuring out how to do the things i enjoy blind, one of which was wow |
| 16:02.34 | neenee | Sometimes I just want to have a good time and not ruin the mood by doing *cough*[correction] |
| 16:02.46 | RaydenU | sort of a waking up dream so i was relatively lucid |
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| 16:12.04 | CIA-8 | GridDynamicLayout: |
| 16:12.04 | CIA-8 | - Corrected an error when logging into a raid |
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| 16:18.08 | break19 | speakin of me wife.. we had some fun at one of her friend's expense last night.. she was in SW, in kitty form.. one of her friends bites her.. my wife goes "hey watch the tail!" and then I say "hey wait a minute.. are you tryin to get some tail from my wife? wtf bro" he was all "uhm. uh.. thats not exactly what I was doing... i always bite my friends" "yea.. but you bit her TAIL.. you tryin to get a piece of tail??" heh |
| 16:21.01 | Fin | tail is one of my favourite derogatory terms for women |
| 16:21.16 | Fin | it doesn't make much sense |
| 16:21.43 | Fin | for some reason it seems to fit, though... dunno. what do women call guys in that way? |
| 16:23.12 | break19 | dicks |
| 16:23.14 | break19 | they call us all dicks |
| 16:23.30 | break19 | they dont mean it like it sounds.. but they still call us that.. |
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| 16:23.41 | Fin | hmm |
| 16:23.45 | Fin | dicks, tails |
| 16:23.48 | Fin | doesn't seem fair really |
| 16:24.32 | break19 | Fin: whats bad is.. we dicks.. love going into tails.. |
| 16:24.48 | break19 | ok.. that was -really- bad.. |
| 16:24.52 | Ellipsis | whoa whoa whoa |
| 16:24.55 | break19 | bad trucker.. bad |
| 16:24.56 | Ellipsis | why was I not invited to this conversation? |
| 16:25.15 | Fin | I suppose you could think of them as sort of front-tails |
| 16:25.21 | Fin | that's another term I like, front bottoms |
| 16:25.22 | Fin | hahah |
| 16:25.27 | Fin | makes me pee myself |
| 16:25.27 | break19 | lol |
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| 16:28.40 | break19 | Fin: come to think of it.. while we call women a "piece of tail" they call us "total dicks" we're complete.. they arent. woo |
| 16:29.05 | Ironhand | I'm running a lot of Ace addons and am regularly experiencing game hangs whenever I join a raid group, long enough to cause me to disconnect (think several minutes). Can anyone suggest a way to find out what may be causing the problem, keeping in mind that this doesn't always happen? |
| 16:29.50 | Fin | yes |
| 16:29.52 | Fin | but you won't like it |
| 16:30.12 | Ironhand | what's that? |
| 16:30.41 | Chompers | keep disabling half your addons till you find the problem? |
| 16:30.43 | Fin | disable half your addons, keep playing for a long enough time that you can be reasonably certain that it's not happening again - or until it happens again, rinse, repeat |
| 16:31.07 | Ironhand | the "reasonably certain" bit is the problem here, as sometimes it doesn't happen for days... and other times it's every other raid |
| 16:32.20 | Fin | well |
| 16:32.37 | Fin | you could do it by disabling just say, a quarter of your addons, and leaving it a week |
| 16:32.44 | Fin | just smaller chunks |
| 16:32.54 | Fin | but if you don't have any other clues, there's not really many options that I know of |
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| 16:33.08 | Ironhand | might have to go that way then... thanks |
| 16:33.11 | Fin | I guess you could try installing PerformanceFu or Fubar_Usage and enabling CPU profiling |
| 16:33.14 | Chompers | try disabling the raid addons first |
| 16:33.17 | Fin | it's never been much help for me though |
| 16:33.24 | Chompers | the ones that start up when you enter a raid |
| 16:33.34 | Fin | addons that update frequently and might be sharing data with other players are likely culprits |
| 16:33.43 | Fin | wait... you're not running Recount with syncing enabled, are you? |
| 16:34.02 | Chompers | recount slows me down when i enter a raid |
| 16:34.06 | Ironhand | nope... just use Assessment which doesn't sync afaik |
| 16:34.40 | Fin | just disable anything that you can live without and makes you even vaguely suspicious... then start re-enabling shit |
| 16:36.05 | Ironhand | I'll try that then, thanks |
| 16:38.10 | Osstia | mmmmm cheddar and sour cream ruffles |
| 16:38.45 | Osstia | Are there advantages to building your frames via the lua rather than in xml, or is it just personal preference? |
| 16:39.31 | Codayus | Osstia: A few. For one thing, a lot of addon developers aren't too familiar with XML, whereas they all know lua. (Well, one would hope.) |
| 16:39.43 | dylanm | You can't do virtual frames in pure Lua. |
| 16:40.00 | nevcairiel | but you can write a function that applies your template =P |
| 16:40.05 | dylanm | Yessir. |
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| 16:47.50 | Codayus | Have I mentioned recently how much fileplanet sucks? |
| 16:48.01 | neenee | Works fine for me |
| 16:48.03 | neenee | :) |
| 16:48.04 | Codayus | Because they suck. A lot. |
| 16:48.24 | neenee | But then, I don't use it very often, unless it's for some demo I can't get elsewhere, or some movies of games |
| 16:49.14 | Codayus | Was downloading a 5gig beta of a game, about 1 gig in a router somewhere hiccupped, and the download stopped. Resume? Ha ha! Surely you jest. |
| 16:49.57 | Codayus | Screw it, I'll find a torrent. |
| 16:49.58 | neenee | Well, I don't use fileplanet for big downloads like that, I'd rather use a torrent or normal ftp/http server. If need be, I'll wait |
| 16:51.35 | Codayus | Yes, well, in retrospect... |
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| 16:57.57 | sag_ich_nicht | LF1M to fix cooldowntimers2 broken ace2 options table |
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| 17:06.11 | Preystalker | morning all |
| 17:07.10 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin |
| 17:07.26 | Pkekyo| | meh, I just did strath in vain :< |
| 17:08.49 | Osstia | Strath is never in vain |
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| 17:17.14 | Pkekyo| | Osstia: how'd you figure? |
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| 17:20.56 | Osstia | hehe |
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| 17:21.10 | Osstia | righteous orbs |
| 17:21.20 | Osstia | or killing that fat bastard ramstein |
| 17:21.25 | Osstia | win/win in my book |
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| 17:21.42 | Twist- | do orbs still sell on your server? |
| 17:21.50 | Twist- | they tanked on mine some time ago. |
| 17:21.51 | Osstia | and cannonmaster willy is just fun |
| 17:22.20 | Osstia | Consistanlty no, but there are always random people who HAVE to have their enchant done |
| 17:22.27 | Osstia | so you can sell them if you watch |
| 17:22.34 | Twist- | Also, have you ever tried running away from the cannonmaster's adds? |
| 17:22.35 | evl\Blend | Any addon that does it so that chat tabs blink when there's new content? |
| 17:23.11 | Osstia | evl\Blend I thought that was build into the in-game chat tabs |
| 17:23.21 | Osstia | Twist- no, I have never run from them |
| 17:23.42 | evl\Blend | Hmms |
| 17:23.46 | evl\Blend | MIne done |
| 17:23.48 | evl\Blend | Don't |
| 17:24.06 | Twist- | So yeah.. they don't move. But they have unlimited range, and apparently their bullets aren't hampered in the least by walls. |
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| 17:26.33 | sag_ich_nicht | LF1M to fix cooldowntimers2 broken ace2 options table, /msg me |
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| 17:27.15 | Osstia | hahaha |
| 17:27.22 | Osstia | I need to get guns like that for my hunter |
| 17:27.31 | Osstia | walls are such a hinerance for me |
| 17:29.09 | Preystalker | hehe |
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| 17:31.18 | Codayus | Just get the bugged SoC from the PTR. |
| 17:31.24 | Codayus | Spells > guns |
| 17:31.49 | Osstia | bugged SoC? |
| 17:32.10 | Osstia | I'm assuming seed of corruption, but whats bugged? |
| 17:32.15 | Codayus | Yes. |
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| 17:32.37 | Codayus | Oh, nothing much. They just accidentally added the "explosion" part of it to warlocks spell books. |
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| 17:32.48 | durcyn | Osstia: does about triple damage, instant cast, no cooldown, infinite range, and can be cast while dead. |
| 17:32.54 | Osstia | hahaha |
| 17:32.55 | Codayus | It's free, doesn't trigger the GCD, has infinite range, and IIRC, can be cast while dead. |
| 17:33.59 | Codayus | Queue the jokes about warlocks being OP. "Well, frankly, I'm not sure I'd notice if the change went live." "Cast while dead? Who's ever seen a dead warlock?" |
| 17:37.12 | kebinusan | I missed that build on ptr |
| 17:37.13 | kebinusan | but lol |
| 17:37.22 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | http://www.bodytwo.com/blog/2007/12/10/lane-gets-breast-implants/ |
| 17:37.24 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | Gaaah. |
| 17:37.30 | Codayus | ...... |
| 17:38.35 | NightHawkTheSane | what the crap? |
| 17:38.41 | Stanzilla | lol |
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| 17:39.32 | durcyn | Antiarc|Laptop: what. the. fuck. |
| 17:39.41 | Osstia | whsikey tango foxtrot |
| 17:39.43 | kebinusan | interesting Antiarc |
| 17:39.50 | kebinusan | kilo |
| 17:40.02 | Preystalker | too much free time |
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| 17:45.46 | kenlyric | LOL |
| 17:47.14 | chiper | too much free money |
| 17:48.00 | Osstia | Are there any decent addons to auto stack? |
| 17:48.12 | Osstia | I have one called stacker, but you have to run in manually |
| 17:49.05 | Codayus | I believe the problem is that restacking stuff in your inventory isn't something you'd want to do automatically. |
| 17:49.38 | Osstia | well, I am more looking for something that will be smart about it |
| 17:49.44 | Codayus | If nothing else, I don't think you can get around having items on your cursor during the process. Can be annoying... |
| 17:49.51 | chiper | agreed. I get annoyed enough as it is that arcinventory decides to reshuffle when a trade window opens |
| 17:49.58 | Osstia | If I mail myself a flower, and I have 18 in my bags I want 19, not a stack of 18 and a stack of 1 |
| 17:50.28 | Codayus | Osstia: Uh...doesn't that happen automatically now anyhow? |
| 17:50.37 | Osstia | it seems to sometimes, but not always |
| 17:50.42 | Osstia | same thing with the bank |
| 17:50.53 | Osstia | if I throw things in the bank, it doesn't always combine them |
| 17:51.08 | Fin | always |
| 17:51.11 | Codayus | AFAIK, that always happens now. It only "breaks" if you have a stack of 18, and get 4 in the mail...you end up with 18 and 4, not 20 and 2. That is, it doesn't split stacks to even them up. |
| 17:51.12 | NightHawkTheSane | "I'm all for throwing him into -- no, under -- the brig." |
| 17:51.24 | Osstia | Okay, that may be it |
| 17:51.30 | Antiarc|Laptop | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317010,00.html |
| 17:52.26 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: just make sure to take his shirt first. |
| 17:52.54 | kenlyric | oh wait, that's before throwing them out of an airlock. |
| 17:53.57 | Paradox | any particular reason why Recount isn't merging pets damage made even though it's set to? |
| 17:55.01 | kenlyric | are you sure it's not? |
| 17:55.06 | kenlyric | because it still shows pets. |
| 17:55.20 | kenlyric | it's very strange. |
| 17:55.36 | kenlyric | it shows the pet damage, but also shows the pet damage added to the hunter's damage. |
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| 17:59.26 | Feoras | would it be possible to add rating to the addon list at files.wowace.com ? |
| 18:00.14 | kenlyric | OUT OF COFFEE |
| 18:01.04 | Feoras | what do you think about the WoW Addon Studio? http://www.codeplex.com/WarcraftAddOnStudio |
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| 18:02.34 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57134 10AckisRecipeList/ARL-LeatherWork.lua: |
| 18:02.34 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:02.34 | CIA-8 | -Added winter boots to leatherworking |
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| 18:02.58 | Feoras | how do I contact the webmaster of files.wowace.com? |
| 18:03.22 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57135 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 18:03.22 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:03.22 | CIA-8 | -Babble-Tradeskill: Added Winter Boots to enUS |
| 18:03.31 | deltron | what about it? |
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| 18:04.51 | Feoras | ? |
| 18:05.43 | Preystalker | slow fall ftw? |
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| 18:06.25 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57136 10AckisRecipeList/ (39 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:06.25 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:06.25 | CIA-8 | - Directory structure reorganization |
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| 18:08.00 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57137 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc Locals/ARLLocals-enGB.lua): |
| 18:08.00 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:08.00 | CIA-8 | - Update local info in ToC (added deDE/koKR |
| 18:08.00 | CIA-8 | - Update enGB |
| 18:14.16 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57138 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 18:14.16 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:14.16 | CIA-8 | - Dry coded a few changes to assist with adding vendor information (can't test, servers are down, but shouldn't break anything) |
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| 18:21.15 | LetheKai | Wow, it's really quiet in here. Are the servers back up or something? |
| 18:22.32 | chiper | some are |
| 18:23.43 | Polarina | The servers haven't yet got down. |
| 18:24.13 | Stanzilla | you're talkin about EU, Polarina :p |
| 18:25.15 | Polarina | Stanzilla: I'm talking about the realms I have access to! |
| 18:26.52 | Antiarc|Laptop | US servers are beginning to come up |
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| 18:29.15 | kenlyric | heh |
| 18:29.26 | kenlyric | I can't take all mail because of one piece. |
| 18:29.36 | kenlyric | stupid winter veil disguise kit. |
| 18:35.31 | CIA-8 | 03antiarc * r57139 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: |
| 18:35.31 | CIA-8 | Ace2: Update GetCurrentGroupDistribution() and IsInDistribution() to not rely on |
| 18:35.31 | CIA-8 | the battleground minimap active status to detemine the difference between |
| 18:35.31 | CIA-8 | BATTLEGROUND and RAID distributions. Now uses select(2, IsInInstance()) == |
| 18:35.32 | CIA-8 | "pvp". Addresses |
| 18:35.32 | CIA-8 | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6419.msg166161#msg166161 and a |
| 18:35.36 | CIA-8 | number of other potential silent comms failures in raid situations. |
| 18:36.55 | ckknight_ | y helo thar |
| 18:37.42 | Paradox | how can I do "/target [target=mouseover]" unless holding shift? |
| 18:38.09 | NightHawkTheSane | wowwiki.com |
| 18:38.31 | Antiarc|Laptop | Can any german speakers translate Mächtiger Heilungszauberschutz for ? |
| 18:38.33 | Antiarc|Laptop | for me* |
| 18:39.08 | winkiller | Antiarc|Laptop: sec |
| 18:39.08 | CIA-8 | 03jerry 07jerry * r57140 10Grid/Grid/GridRange.lua: Grid: (branch) bugfix |
| 18:39.23 | kenlyric | the fading of the winter reveler buff seems to be random. |
| 18:39.26 | winkiller | I don't know the actuall wow equivalent |
| 18:39.35 | winkiller | but it's some "powerful healing ward" maybe? |
| 18:39.36 | kenlyric | sometimes it fades when logged out, sometimes not. |
| 18:39.45 | Antiarc|Laptop | winkiller: That sounds right - it's from Jin'do |
| 18:39.47 | Antiarc|Laptop | Thank you |
| 18:39.53 | winkiller | ah well, then it's that :) |
| 18:39.53 | winkiller | np |
| 18:40.20 | winkiller | and you still didn't patch the armory tools, did you? |
| 18:40.34 | winkiller | *takes out his poking stick* |
| 18:41.14 | Antiarc|Laptop | Hehe, which patch? |
| 18:41.21 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'm on vacation! *poke stick dodge* |
| 18:41.23 | winkiller | secondary progessions |
| 18:41.36 | winkiller | *professions - cooking, riding, fishing, FA |
| 18:41.40 | winkiller | it was months ago :P |
| 18:41.53 | Antiarc|Laptop | Hrm. I thought I did, but there may have been a regression |
| 18:42.01 | Antiarc|Laptop | The tool's actually on a cluster of servers now |
| 18:42.06 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'll check it when I get home Thursday :) |
| 18:42.09 | Chompers | antiarc: mighty healing power |
| 18:42.24 | winkiller | no hurry, I've been using my own patched version for months already ;() |
| 18:42.27 | winkiller | -( |
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| 18:50.06 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57142 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 18:50.06 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:50.06 | CIA-8 | - Reorged the ToC so files load properly |
| 18:50.06 | CIA-8 | - Servers up and haven't encountered any errors w/ changes made. I win at the interweb |
| 18:50.42 | Stanzilla | lol |
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| 18:51.56 | Brunera | hey ck |
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| 18:57.36 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57143 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: add multiple items in a mail to the mail tooltip. |
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| 19:05.03 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57144 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 19:05.03 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 19:05.03 | CIA-8 | - two weapon tooltips adjusted |
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| 19:12.27 | vithos | Fin: MobMap and QuestHelper are amazing. serious heartiez to you sir for the recommendations |
| 19:12.54 | bindi | hmm, i need a cooldowntimer with dim return timers as well, any suggestions? |
| 19:14.42 | kergoth | questhelper sucks up like 10fps for me, but it's worth it when leveling :P |
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| 19:15.15 | Fin | vithos: glad you found them useful! |
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| 19:15.54 | Fin | I do hate it when I evangelise an addon and it's people aren't as impressed as I am :) |
| 19:16.09 | NivFreak | sad that there was no patch today =/ |
| 19:16.35 | NivFreak | Fin: what do mobmap and questhelper do? |
| 19:17.02 | Fisker- | Fin |
| 19:17.05 | Fisker- | it's your fault |
| 19:17.08 | Fisker- | fix aura ranges |
| 19:18.29 | Fin | they provide in-game information on items, NPCs, quests, merchants, drop rates, recipes, locations, and routes |
| 19:19.18 | NivFreak | any better than cartographer quest objectives / quests? |
| 19:19.18 | kergoth | questhelper looks at the quests you have and figures out the best route for you to do them in |
| 19:19.20 | kergoth | its lovely |
| 19:19.33 | Fin | it keeps getting lovelier, as well |
| 19:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | antiarc |
| 19:19.46 | Fin | dunno when you last updated, but in the last few days there's been all sorts of nift tacked on |
| 19:19.52 | sag_ich_nicht | something is wrong with threat-1.0, warriors, paladins and magtheridon |
| 19:19.54 | NivFreak | kergoth: oh nice |
| 19:19.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i was at 78k threat |
| 19:20.03 | sag_ich_nicht | 94k was aggro gain |
| 19:20.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i did NOTHING and mag turns around and smashes me down |
| 19:20.37 | kergoth | Fin: i noticed you can right click on them to cahnge their priorities and stuff, which is excellent, since sometimes i just dont feel like doing a certain quest just now |
| 19:20.37 | Fin | slash commands for filtering by level and zone and stuff, data sharing, easy ignoring, objective prioritisation |
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| 19:20.47 | NivFreak | does mobmap have any unique features that make it attractive? |
| 19:20.48 | Jaxon | sag_ich_nicht: someone pain suppressed your tank? :D |
| 19:20.58 | Fin | yes |
| 19:21.09 | Fin | it has a pretty smile and a firm bosom |
| 19:21.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Jaxon: nope |
| 19:21.28 | sag_ich_nicht | no disc priests in the raid |
| 19:21.36 | NivFreak | Fin: :P |
| 19:22.05 | Fin | http://www.mobmap.de/ |
| 19:22.11 | Fin | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7190/ |
| 19:22.16 | Fin | oops, sorry for the duplication |
| 19:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 19:23.12 | Fin | you know, in England, "bonk" means something probably quite different to how you just meant it |
| 19:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | stab Antiarc while i'm raiding please |
| 19:23.27 | Fin | that's OK with me though |
| 19:23.31 | Fin | I'm easy |
| 19:23.42 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: why? |
| 19:24.35 | CIA-8 | 03durcyn * r57145 10Assessment/Assessment.toc: Assessment: add LibParser-4.0 to OptDeps so we can use its Parser-3.0 compat layer |
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| 19:26.40 | Fin | any aussies here? |
| 19:28.23 | deltron | so what's up with http://www.wowdb.com ? it has the curse logo heh |
| 19:30.14 | kenlyric | maybe they're doing a wowhead/thott site that's not owned by evil? |
| 19:30.18 | kenlyric | well, owned by different evil? |
| 19:30.32 | deltron | I saw the link at the bottom of files.wowace.com |
| 19:30.32 | NightHawkTheSane | everything is owned by some evil |
| 19:30.57 | kenlyric | but wowace.com is owned by evil, right? |
| 19:31.35 | Fin | who owns evil? |
| 19:31.41 | kenlyric | nobody |
| 19:31.43 | Fin | I bet it's evil's mum |
| 19:31.44 | kenlyric | evil owns other things |
| 19:31.48 | Fin | oh |
| 19:31.49 | Fin | OK |
| 19:32.02 | Fin | does it 0wN also? |
| 19:32.29 | Fin | enquiring minds seek answers |
| 19:33.23 | kenlyric | all I know is that pedophiles who snorted cocaine out of the cracks of young boys also enjoy warcraft database sites. It was on the internet, so it's true. |
| 19:35.45 | ckknight | bbl |
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| 19:37.10 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 19:37.10 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
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| 19:40.38 | Fin | kenlyric: he was over 18! |
| 19:41.03 | Fin | I mean er er er yes I quite agree |
| 19:42.13 | kenlyric | i laughed at ck's comment directly following mine. |
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| 19:42.21 | kenlyric | as though he suddenly had a great idea of what to go do... |
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| 19:42.41 | Fin | hahah, that is funny actually |
| 19:43.19 | Chompers | your comment? |
| 19:44.20 | Fin | Chompers: who is that addressed to? |
| 19:44.40 | Chompers | kenlyric, sorry |
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| 19:45.45 | Ozguli | draw! |
| 19:45.50 | Ozguli | didn't even count as a played game |
| 19:47.57 | Primer | arena? |
| 19:48.06 | Primer | I had a draw once, and it counted |
| 19:50.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:23] <Ellipsis> sag_ich_nicht: why? <--scroll up |
| 19:52.11 | Ellipsis | so uh |
| 19:52.19 | Ellipsis | you want me to stab him because there's a bug somewhere? |
| 19:54.41 | Gngsk | wow addon development is the most serious of business |
| 19:55.16 | Kody- | ya |
| 20:02.20 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'm just sad I never registered serious.biz before someone else did :( |
| 20:03.21 | Fisker- | oooh Chompers |
| 20:03.23 | Fisker- | I > U soon |
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| 20:08.00 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 20:08.01 | Fisker- | i wub u |
| 20:08.05 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r57146 10GetDKP_AutoPost/GetDKP_AutoPost.lua: GetDKP_AutoPost: Fixed bug, attention is now resetted on Loot assign |
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| 20:11.36 | Chompers | why Fisker-? |
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| 20:12.55 | Fisker- | almost killz0red al'ar |
| 20:13.51 | Kivin | ckknight: pingpong |
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| 20:16.18 | Kivin | Who wants to do a commit to LibRockConfig for me |
| 20:17.35 | Fin | me! |
| 20:17.37 | Fin | no, wait |
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| 20:17.43 | Kivin | *wince* |
| 20:17.45 | Fin | pass |
| 20:21.04 | Fisker- | what are you going to do about it Chompers ? |
| 20:21.41 | Chompers | rub myself i guess |
| 20:22.12 | Chompers | gonna wipe on VR |
| 20:22.16 | Chompers | this is so fucking poor |
| 20:22.23 | Fisker- | :)! |
| 20:22.29 | Fisker- | stupid trash respawns |
| 20:25.54 | dexlor | Hey, anyone know of an updated mod like accountant? |
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| 20:37.04 | Fisker- | so Antiarc|Laptop |
| 20:37.06 | Fisker- | why do you want 2.4? :O |
| 20:37.35 | kaiden|work | because 2.4 tastes like chicken where as 2.3 doesn't |
| 20:38.23 | Fisker- | do want |
| 20:38.46 | alext | combatlog changes! |
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| 20:45.06 | Antiarc|Laptop | Fisker-: Because unit IDs will hopefully mean that unit name translation code can go away |
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| 20:45.20 | Antiarc|Laptop | If I can share IDs instead of having to hack together JIT translation, I'll be very happy |
| 20:46.24 | Fisker- | oh |
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| 20:53.41 | Fisker- | btw Chompers |
| 20:53.45 | Fisker- | this guild on our server :D |
| 20:53.53 | Fisker- | taken everything but vashj and kael'thas |
| 20:53.58 | Fisker- | but they can't kill magtheridon |
| 20:54.07 | Antiarc|Laptop | heh |
| 20:54.22 | SqueeG | is it possible to retexture a default minimap button? |
| 20:54.24 | Antiarc|Laptop | Well, if you can't kill mags, you probably won't kill Vashj or Kael |
| 20:54.36 | Antiarc|Laptop | They're all coordination fights, Mags being the easiest of the three |
| 20:54.53 | Antiarc|Laptop | Though good lord, Kael is so much easier now |
| 20:55.06 | nevcairiel | too easy imho :P |
| 20:55.09 | Antiarc|Laptop | Yeah, I agree |
| 20:55.20 | Antiarc|Laptop | It really lowered the DPS bar lower than it needed to have been lowered |
| 20:55.20 | Fisker- | I finally got my guild to go more into TK |
| 20:55.24 | Fisker- | we got solarian |
| 20:55.29 | Fisker- | al'ar on 30% on our first day |
| 20:55.30 | Antiarc|Laptop | You can lose a DPSer and still get to P4 easily |
| 20:55.31 | Fisker- | second try |
| 20:55.45 | nevcairiel | was really funny when we did kael the first time after the nerf |
| 20:56.01 | nevcairiel | we were like "wtf, is our gear that better now, or was he nerfed that bad" |
| 20:56.19 | nevcairiel | (we didnt do kael for at least 2 month before that) |
| 20:56.25 | Antiarc|Laptop | Same here |
| 20:56.33 | Antiarc|Laptop | We had our first keying run two weeks ago |
| 20:56.48 | Antiarc|Laptop | Hadn't done him for a long while before that |
| 20:56.53 | Antiarc|Laptop | and it was really easy |
| 20:57.06 | Antiarc|Laptop | It took two tries, but the first failed because our MT DCd on the P3->4 transition |
| 20:57.59 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:58.24 | nevcairiel | our MT ended up in the smoke clouds with 10k HP, he survived until the debuff wore off tho : |
| 20:58.54 | Antiarc|Laptop | Heheh, we had our tank at 9k HP for our first kill |
| 20:58.56 | Antiarc|Laptop | It was pretty insane |
| 20:58.59 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r57147 10EnhancedStackSplit/ (EnhancedStackSplit.lua EnhancedStackSplit.toc): EnhancedStackSplit: added frFR translation (thanks 1CCStan) |
| 21:00.56 | nevcairiel | our first kill was pretty funny, we sucked half the evening on p3 .. then perfect transition into 4, first time in 5, and killed :) |
| 21:01.27 | nevcairiel | well pretty much like illidan, once you get to phase 5, you win |
| 21:01.33 | Polarina | nevcairiel: Oh... I though you were talking about Pentium III and Pentium IV. |
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| 21:17.22 | khangg | Is there an addon like ClassTimer..where I don't have to add bascially every debuff and buff? |
| 21:18.16 | Funkeh` | maybe |
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| 21:23.10 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:24.54 | Fisker- | anyone know if you can avoid flame buffet's in phase 1 with al'ar? |
| 21:25.03 | steino | you jump |
| 21:25.20 | Fisker- | err? |
| 21:25.29 | steino | no, im just kidding.. just hit him :D |
| 21:25.33 | Josh_Borke | Fisker-: only if you're really really fast |
| 21:25.40 | steino | intercept, feral charge etc |
| 21:26.03 | Fisker- | well the way i see it you can freely move up the ramp after the fire quill |
| 21:26.08 | Fisker- | and it seems like A LOT of time |
| 21:26.09 | Josh_Borke | yep |
| 21:26.18 | Josh_Borke | but you can't be on the ramp during fire quill |
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| 21:29.11 | NivFreak | man |
| 21:29.19 | Josh_Borke | woman |
| 21:29.19 | NivFreak | blizzard does a good job of breaking the armory |
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| 21:36.51 | Fisker- | can i stand just down the ramp during flame quill? |
| 21:36.59 | Josh_Borke | Fisker-: you cannot be on the ramp |
| 21:37.01 | genetik- | you're safe at the bottom of it |
| 21:37.18 | Fisker- | alright |
| 21:37.24 | genetik- | i run to maybe a couple feet up the ramp to get a head start on an intercept |
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| 21:37.48 | genetik- | always on the side of the ramp toward the center of the room, though |
| 21:37.55 | genetik- | no idea if you're safe toward the wall |
| 21:38.21 | RaydenUni | so wow is down all day? |
| 21:38.30 | Josh_Borke | ~wowalerts |
| 21:38.34 | Josh_Borke | ~wowalert |
| 21:38.35 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 21:38.59 | Fisker- | bah |
| 21:39.27 | RaydenUni | the us site is down |
| 21:39.38 | RaydenUni | 404 |
| 21:40.17 | SqueeG | works for me |
| 21:40.21 | RaydenUni | nope |
| 21:40.23 | RaydenUni | definitely 404 |
| 21:40.32 | Ozguli | bongos is pretty much better than bartender imo.. |
| 21:40.32 | RaydenUni | actually it's a not found |
| 21:40.36 | Josh_Borke | i'm getting a Not Found |
| 21:40.42 | Ozguli | damn bindings |
| 21:40.45 | SqueeG | the armory or the main site? |
| 21:40.47 | Josh_Borke | Ozguli: glad you have an opinion on an addon :-D |
| 21:40.54 | Josh_Borke | SqueeG: the alerts page |
| 21:41.00 | SqueeG | agh, sorry |
| 21:41.20 | Ozguli | I was about to ask if anyone has even fancier stuff? |
| 21:42.00 | bigzero | lol....I can't believe they still sell laptops like that at bestbuy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=UXFTBXVAMQXNDKC4D3IVAGY?skuId=8643426&productCategoryId=abcat0502004&type=product&tab=1&id=1195597748307#productdetail |
| 21:42.16 | Ozguli | and oh.. bartender made my pc go "Beeep beep beeeep" when trying to activate half of my stuff at once |
| 21:46.28 | kenlyric | bigzero: why not? |
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| 21:49.24 | sag_ich_nicht | what's the chatchannel for raidwarning? |
| 21:49.56 | RaydenUni | just raid chat i think |
| 21:50.03 | Fisker- | :DDDDDDDDDDD |
| 21:50.05 | Fisker- | al'ar down |
| 21:50.42 | Gngsk | sag_ich_nicht, chan->raid->raid, raid leader, raid warning |
| 21:51.06 | Gngsk | it's all the same chan but those 3 can have seperate colors and have seperate tags |
| 21:51.43 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 21:51.43 | sag_ich_nicht | for |
| 21:51.48 | sag_ich_nicht | SendChatMessage |
| 21:52.18 | Fisker- | i want to have sex with you Chompers |
| 21:52.48 | Gngsk | is it possible to use SendChatMessage to print to RW? |
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| 21:53.41 | RaydenUni | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.34 | kadrahil | so um |
| 21:54.44 | Gngsk | oh, it is |
| 21:54.50 | Gngsk | use "RAID_WARNING" |
| 21:54.51 | Gngsk | dur |
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| 21:57.43 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, I want to chop your head off. |
| 21:57.55 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 21:57.56 | Fisker- | FAGGOT |
| 21:57.57 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:57.59 | RaydenUni | http://www.zenofdesign.com/?p=1000 |
| 21:58.01 | RaydenUni | why wow has raiding |
| 21:58.36 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 21:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | why the hell |
| 21:58.42 | sag_ich_nicht | can't i use altgr anymore |
| 21:59.10 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now it's working again |
| 21:59.18 | kenlyric | 35 perdcent of the character are 70. 65% are alts of 70s. |
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| 22:00.02 | kenlyric | I do rather like the term "gameplay horizon" as it describes the purpose of the high level raids to 90% of the user base. |
| 22:01.31 | RaydenUni | i didn't know there were than many articles written on how bad raiding was for wow |
| 22:01.40 | RaydenUni | i see raiding as a digital alternative to playing sports |
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| 22:01.59 | RaydenUni | working with other people as a team to take on challenges |
| 22:03.11 | RaydenUni | raiding players also provide a support for much of the economy i think |
| 22:03.18 | RaydenUni | a stable support at least |
| 22:03.23 | Chompers | nice work fisker |
| 22:03.26 | Chompers | we're doing alar too |
| 22:03.40 | Chompers | 5 people died at the star of p2 |
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| 22:03.53 | kenlyric | the game would be nothing without raiding. |
| 22:03.59 | kenlyric | it would also be nothing without casuals. |
| 22:04.04 | kenlyric | it's a *delicate balance* |
| 22:04.13 | RaydenUni | so even though only a relatively small % of players raid, without it i think wow would fall apart |
| 22:04.17 | genetik- | i wouldn't necessarily say delicate |
| 22:04.23 | RaydenUni | and yes the horizon thing is important |
| 22:04.32 | kenlyric | they do it a hell of a lot better than any other MMO |
| 22:04.33 | Fisker- | oh u Chompers |
| 22:04.35 | Fisker- | so fun a fight |
| 22:04.41 | kadrahil | LOL apache 500 errors on wowarmory.com |
| 22:04.43 | kenlyric | and have the subscriber base to show for it. |
| 22:04.44 | kadrahil | server errors |
| 22:05.00 | RaydenUni | kenlyric so i have a question |
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| 22:05.07 | RaydenUni | developing all this raid content is expensive right? |
| 22:05.16 | RaydenUni | could you develop and mmo and release it without raid content? |
| 22:05.22 | kenlyric | I mean, I remember being excited about the legendary caster weapon, an item that never existed on my server. So horizon is important. |
| 22:05.29 | RaydenUni | releasing it in a patch or an expansion once your player base has stabilized? |
| 22:05.44 | kenlyric | doubtful. |
| 22:05.50 | genetik- | lotro didn't have any raid content at first, did it? |
| 22:05.55 | kenlyric | people were ready to raidin WoW within the first week or two :) |
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| 22:10.26 | RaydenUni | "Before starting your new Druid, you'll need to decide which faction and race to choose. You probably already have a fairly good idea which you're going to select, and it's unlikely that racial traits will make much of an impact on that decision." |
| 22:10.26 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 22:11.11 | kenlyric | lol |
| 22:11.12 | Stanzilla | wtb undead druid |
| 22:11.17 | Stanzilla | I like rotten bears |
| 22:11.18 | kenlyric | human druid |
| 22:11.21 | kenlyric | named beorn |
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| 22:18.45 | Klazar | does click2cast work with grid? |
| 22:20.45 | kenlyric | yes |
| 22:21.09 | kenlyric | it has no option to let you restrict it to just the grid frame, like clique has. |
| 22:21.18 | kenlyric | that matters to some people. |
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| 22:26.23 | ag` | OMG duke nukem forever teaser coming tomorrow!!! |
| 22:27.36 | Kody- | Now THAT is excitement |
| 22:29.06 | ag` | yes! It increases probability of a real release by 2%! |
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| 22:29.57 | Ellipsis | 2% of 0 is still, like, really small |
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| 22:32.21 | Preystalker | but it's 2% more |
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| 22:34.49 | kenlyric | prey fails at math |
| 22:35.15 | kenlyric | which engine is DNF on these days? |
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| 22:39.21 | NeoTron | ag`: are you kidding? |
| 22:39.37 | ag` | NeoTron, no |
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| 22:40.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:26] <ag`> OMG duke nukem forever teaser coming tomorrow!!! <--WHAT |
| 22:40.20 | sag_ich_nicht | AWESOME |
| 22:40.20 | sag_ich_nicht | GIEV |
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| 22:41.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ag` LINK |
| 22:41.56 | Fisker- | http://www.picupload.net/f-effbf1b13d49327d77eece9a77153bbe.jpg |
| 22:41.58 | Fisker- | tomorrow fags |
| 22:41.58 | Fisker- | :( |
| 22:42.27 | ag` | http://www.3drealms.com/ ? |
| 22:42.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ag` oh okay |
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| 22:45.34 | Sarana | Does anyone know how light/heavy weight an svn ls command is? I've been trying to improve my addon updater (addonpkg) to limit network traffic / load. Currently I cache the latest revision per repository on the first fetch and use that for fetch avoidance for subsequent fetches (for wowace addons it actually uses latest-noext.xml and handles 304 etc, this question is for generic svn repositories). I've been thinking of switching to a mode |
| 22:48.03 | chiper | you got cut off at " I've been thinking of switching to a mode" |
| 22:48.13 | chiper | IRC has a message length limit |
| 22:48.33 | Sarana | oops. Rest was: I've been thinking of switching to a mode where I go up one directory and do an svn ls --xml and caching all the revision numbers there to potentially avoid doing any fetches at all. |
| 22:50.02 | CIA-8 | 03mokhtar * r57148 10GridDynamicZoneSwitch/GridDynamicZoneSwitch.lua: |
| 22:50.02 | CIA-8 | GridDynamicZoneSwitch: |
| 22:50.02 | CIA-8 | - Corrected a bug when deleting a zone |
| 22:50.17 | Sarana | I just want my tool to be a good netizen even if it gets used abusively. But not sure of the cost of svn ls vs svn fetch |
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| 23:01.03 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: update the version of cartographer on curse, the one there has bugs and people keep posting comments about them |
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| 23:11.05 | [dRaCo] | ~seen elkano |
| 23:11.10 | purl | elkano <n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 8h 36m 46s ago, saying: 'well, sometimes I think its coder doesn't have that much of a clue what he's doing...'. |
| 23:11.57 | Klazar | can grid be configured to replace unit frames alltogether? looking to redo my UI from scratch this weekend, oh joy |
| 23:12.07 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:12.12 | Klazar | kewl |
| 23:12.34 | Matrix110 | using it for yourself though isnt really that great |
| 23:12.48 | Matrix110 | atleast thats my opinion |
| 23:12.54 | Matrix110 | for the others its fine |
| 23:13.25 | Matrix110 | But you miss alot of detail if you are just using grid |
| 23:13.35 | Matrix110 | and with just i mean no standard frames anymore |
| 23:13.55 | Matrix110 | which is basically not working with grid anyway as you miss target frame and shit:P |
| 23:13.56 | Klazar | i added all the additions yesterday and noticed that in a raid it luanced extra bars. |
| 23:14.46 | Klazar | thats why i was curious if it could be configured for regular play |
| 23:15.57 | Klazar | hey any truth the the "trick" of launcing window media player in the background while playing wow helps with fps since 2.3 or is that BS |
| 23:16.10 | chiper | I used to used to use smartdebuff that way |
| 23:16.26 | chiper | Klazar: mm, meant to try that yesterday |
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| 23:16.42 | sdouble | it's a trick to get you to run windows |
| 23:16.45 | Arrowmaster | from what i heard it was loading time improvement not fps improvement |
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| 23:17.14 | Klazar | ok so there is something going on i wasnt sure if it was just BS |
| 23:17.38 | chiper | you only get a boost on certain configs too. single processor setups mostely |
| 23:17.51 | Klazar | sdouble: lol yea |
| 23:18.15 | Arrowmaster | and you can use http://www.fileplanet.com/174303/170000/fileinfo/Srcdsfpsboost.exe-for-PHL-Server-Guide instead of actually opening WMP |
| 23:18.23 | Arrowmaster | sourcecode is included |
| 23:18.28 | chiper | I discovered a nice loading boost over the weekend by putting my windows swap file on a different drive from WOW |
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| 23:20.24 | _rane | is there an addon for trinket switching when mounting? |
| 23:20.30 | Klazar | well since im gonna trash my ui this weekend im gonna add some more addons tonignt, wont to try click2cast with grid. SPirest turned holy 2 get more runs in and gear |
| 23:20.31 | Aeyan | Many |
| 23:20.48 | _rane | preferably ace one |
| 23:20.56 | Klazar | s/wont/want |
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| 23:21.34 | Kivin | If a table has an element which is a table, and they share the same __call metatable, is there any reason why the parent table should be passed in to the __call() if I go parent.child(...) |
| 23:21.45 | Klazar | 258 addons/libs listed in my addon directory lol |
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| 23:22.31 | Arrowmaster | Kivin: pastey code |
| 23:22.45 | Kivin | mm, k 1 sec |
| 23:23.20 | Klazar | so what unit fram will give me a similar look to grid? |
| 23:23.35 | Klazar | or is easiest to confiyre like that |
| 23:23.42 | Arrowmaster | none |
| 23:24.03 | Arrowmaster | although i think RDX has a direct ripoff of grid in it |
| 23:24.03 | Klazar | lol k |
| 23:24.23 | NeoTron | rdx still exists? |
| 23:24.33 | NeoTron | it still has things worth paying for? |
| 23:24.39 | NeoTron | (if it ever did) |
| 23:24.48 | Klazar | im using Un_Frames now jsut wanted to gtry something diff |
| 23:24.54 | Arrowmaster | its free now i think |
| 23:25.17 | Kivin | Arrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/79204 |
| 23:25.40 | Kivin | A severely dumned down version of what i'm doing, but the principle is the same |
| 23:26.06 | Kivin | in that case, it would echo "parent" |
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| 23:27.46 | Arrowmaster | wheres echo() coming from |
| 23:27.47 | Stanzilla | Kivin: want to give me that fix for rock? |
| 23:27.58 | Arrowmaster | because i just tested with lua_bot and it works |
| 23:28.08 | Kivin | Stanzilla: <3 |
| 23:28.25 | Kivin | Arrowmaster: echo is just a local that echos plain text onto the DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 23:28.41 | Kivin | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-127 |
| 23:28.42 | [dRaCo] | anyone maintaining msbtCooldowns? |
| 23:28.44 | Arrowmaster | do /msg lua_bot lua> mt = { __call = function(t, args) print(t.name) end } parent = setmetatable({ name = "parent" }, mt) parent.child = setmetatable({ name = "child" }, mt) parent.child() |
| 23:28.46 | Kivin | @ Stanzilla |
| 23:29.02 | Kivin | can i /msg without nickserv or w/e |
| 23:29.04 | Stanzilla | Kivin: k, I won't commit it myself but I'll keep poking ckk |
| 23:29.16 | Kivin | Stanzilla: thank you very much, he's one hell of a hard guy to get ahold of |
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| 23:29.43 | Stanzilla | np |
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| 23:30.16 | Arrowmaster | Kivin: the code you pastey'd seemed correct so if thats just a simplified version of your real code then something is wrong that your probably not seeing |
| 23:30.33 | Kivin | Arrowmaster: that basically tells me what i needed to know; I'm narrowing down the issue in my string patterns |
| 23:30.35 | Arrowmaster | one of those see what you ment and not whats actually there things probably |
| 23:32.51 | Gngsk | [dRaCo], MSBT 3 added cooldown support |
| 23:33.26 | [dRaCo] | damn, and I fixed that stupid module -.-" |
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| 23:36.19 | Kivin | god, i'm a dork sometimes. I have a local function inside my __call function, and I added a parameter to the internal function instead of the __call |
| 23:41.45 | CIA-8 | 03jerry 07jerry * r57149 10Grid/Grid/GridRange.lua: |
| 23:41.45 | CIA-8 | Grid: (branch) |
| 23:41.45 | CIA-8 | _ reverted the optimization of GridRange |
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| 23:45.26 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 23:45.57 | Ellipsis | heya Zhinjio |
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| 23:56.43 | mathuin | Thank you for your help on my earlier questions. Anyone here know ClosetGnome well? |
| 23:57.44 | mathuin | I'm wondering how to delay the dismount change based on whether my parachute cloak is being used. |
| 23:58.28 | [Ammo] | can't do that with CG |
| 23:58.29 | CIA-8 | 03ulic * r57150 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Warchief.lua: LittleWigs: deDE update |
| 23:58.41 | mathuin | Totally impossible? |
| 23:58.55 | [dRaCo] | not without changing the code |
| 23:59.39 | [Ammo] | yeah not without changing the code |
