| 00:01.24 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon. |
| 00:02.48 | Aens|Superiority | ugh! why does armory load so slow |
| 00:03.17 | Xinhuan | !c us blackrock xinhuan |
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| 00:08.28 | khangg | 'cause it sucks Aens|Superiority |
| 00:13.58 | aestil | can someone link me a good shadow/destro lock build for T5/T6 raiding player? |
| 00:16.25 | NightHawkTheSane | So, if I've transferred a character to another server, would I just have to move that character's folder to the appropriate realm dir in my WTF folder and then do some clever search/replace in the global SVs? |
| 00:16.38 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:16.40 | NightHawkTheSane | (to maintain UI settinsg, and such) |
| 00:16.51 | Ellipsis | yep NHTS |
| 00:16.57 | Xinhuan | if your char name didn't change its easier |
| 00:17.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, it hasn't |
| 00:17.11 | dylanm | aestil: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17008-warlock_pve_raiding_compendium/ |
| 00:17.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I figured as such, but i wanted to make sure |
| 00:17.19 | Xinhuan | then you only have to find references to your prev server |
| 00:17.20 | Ellipsis | you can also do the copy profiles thing but that takes longer |
| 00:18.13 | aestil | dylanm: i like this build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMdV0fzZZEx0tr0zVhq |
| 00:18.23 | aestil | why is the 'default' build with demonolgy? |
| 00:18.33 | Ellipsis | DS? |
| 00:18.43 | aestil | for the sac succy? |
| 00:18.48 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 00:19.11 | aestil | seems like amp'd dooms and imp lifetap would make that a 'close call', yes? |
| 00:19.12 | dylanm | Pretty much. |
| 00:19.20 | dylanm | Wasting a tonnn of points obviously. |
| 00:19.28 | Ellipsis | yeah...meh |
| 00:19.50 | Ellipsis | I guess it's a preference thing, but most warlocks at that level seem to love DS way too much |
| 00:19.58 | Ellipsis | and the extra stam doesn't hurt |
| 00:20.02 | aestil | true. |
| 00:20.12 | aestil | well, the other thing is that, on archimonde, instant currputions would be nice. |
| 00:20.37 | Ellipsis | instant corr is one of the biggest drawbacks of 0/21/40 imo |
| 00:21.08 | Ellipsis | because it's basically cutting an entire ability out of your list of possible things to od |
| 00:21.14 | dylanm | I'm leveling a warlock right now and it's sort of astounding how good most of the talents are. |
| 00:21.23 | aestil | that and you gain the 4% chance for instant SB |
| 00:21.37 | aestil | so, you still cast currupotion, amp doom, and SB. |
| 00:21.41 | dylanm | Gawd I love nightfall |
| 00:21.46 | aestil | mean while, you can Life tap more reliably. |
| 00:21.59 | aestil | and you get siphon life and are kinda a drain tank if need to be. |
| 00:23.56 | aestil | wait, night fall proc's off of currpotion ticks? |
| 00:24.24 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 00:24.30 | aestil | jesus. |
| 00:24.32 | Ellipsis | corruption and drain life |
| 00:24.45 | aestil | thats actually freaking awesome on archimonde. |
| 00:24.53 | aestil | cause you can get instant SB's while you're runninga way from fire. |
| 00:25.03 | aestil | and you get siphon life if you get hit by the fire. |
| 00:25.09 | aestil | and then you may be able to instant SB after that... |
| 00:25.11 | aestil | jesus. |
| 00:25.32 | aestil | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMdmofzZZEx0tr0zVhq |
| 00:25.36 | aestil | thats a strong build overall. |
| 00:26.21 | aestil | need a SP still probably, but imp life tap would help, yes? |
| 00:26.50 | aestil | its basically sac succy and some sta vs. imp doom, nightfall instant curruption, imp curruption and siphon life. |
| 00:27.08 | aestil | i'm very sure that 0/21/40 is > dps, but i wonder if 21/0/40 isn't the better overall build. |
| 00:27.33 | dylanm | http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31 |
| 00:27.38 | dylanm | I hadn't seen this before. |
| 00:27.42 | dylanm | It's kinda good-looking. |
| 00:27.46 | Ellipsis | if you use mobility and health regen based fights as your benchmark, then you might as well just put them back on affliction |
| 00:27.51 | dylanm | And best of all it isn't DoTimer woooo |
| 00:28.24 | aestil | true, but this is still gonna be close to 0/21/40 dps, with more utility |
| 00:28.34 | dylanm | Archi requires a bunch of weird stuff, yeah |
| 00:28.56 | Ellipsis | for that specific fight, 21/0/40 wins |
| 00:29.10 | aestil | well, for that specific fight 41/x/x wins |
| 00:29.15 | Ellipsis | truth |
| 00:29.26 | aestil | but for the rest of the fights, 21/0/40 is 'close' to 0/21/40 |
| 00:29.40 | aestil | wheras for the rest of the figthts 41/x/x isn't 'close' to 0/21/40 |
| 00:29.56 | Primer | that's one thing I'm always arguing over with people |
| 00:29.59 | Primer | I'm 40/0/21 |
| 00:30.10 | Primer | and I do more damage than everyone else |
| 00:30.14 | Primer | except...they do more "DPS" |
| 00:30.20 | aestil | no |
| 00:30.23 | Primer | yes |
| 00:30.25 | aestil | dps is a bad indicatro |
| 00:30.31 | Primer | exactly |
| 00:30.35 | Primer | that's what I tell them |
| 00:30.35 | aestil | wws shows dps as 'instant' unless you ask it to show 'average' |
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| 00:30.47 | Primer | but they want to argue that DPS is more important |
| 00:30.50 | aestil | at what gear level are you? |
| 00:30.57 | Primer | T4 |
| 00:31.06 | aestil | affliction is probably better for you then. |
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| 00:31.19 | aestil | although i don't understand how Shadowburn> than UA |
| 00:31.21 | Primer | every other lock in my guild is DSSF |
| 00:31.36 | aestil | they probably resepc'd before their gear could support it. |
| 00:31.41 | Primer | Demonic Sacrifice/Shadow Flame |
| 00:32.23 | Primer | plus they draw agro way faster than I do |
| 00:32.38 | Primer | and have to hold back |
| 00:32.50 | aestil | if you're in T4 instances at this point, its almost irrelevant. |
| 00:33.04 | aestil | because the arguement isn't truely 'proven' until the greater levels of gear. |
| 00:33.15 | Primer | meanwhile, I have 4 dots ticking, and SB's crit'ing for ~5k non-stop |
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| 00:33.23 | aestil | another advantage to shadow/destro is that spell haste, which is pretty easily available now, is very good. |
| 00:33.23 | Primer | yeah, I suppose |
| 00:33.36 | Primer | they say spell haste is the new crit |
| 00:33.43 | Primer | I've yet to see it proven |
| 00:34.06 | Primer | I just like to be able to throw up 3 dots while moving |
| 00:34.23 | Primer | if it's a fight where you're moving a lot, you'll hardly be casting anything |
| 00:34.25 | aestil | wtf? |
| 00:34.37 | aestil | what fights are youd oing at the T4 level that require that level of movment? |
| 00:34.47 | Primer | HKM |
| 00:34.57 | aestil | you don't have to move much for maulgar |
| 00:35.12 | Keias | The only time I had to move on Maulgar was when my warrior had to OT the warlock |
| 00:35.12 | Primer | he, if you're on fel hound duty, you do |
| 00:35.28 | Primer | I get stuck with that, as our guild has few locks |
| 00:35.52 | Primer | and our fearless guild leader, a DSSF lock, wants to cast SB's...so... |
| 00:36.38 | Industrial | 100k |
| 00:36.39 | aestil | well then, thats your assignement on maulgar, not indicitive of teh fight in general. |
| 00:37.24 | aestil | i dunno. shadow/destro seems to be obviously better, i'd just like to see a dmg model showing how far off in dmg imp instant currupotion + amp doom falls short of sac succy. |
| 00:38.00 | Ellipsis | most destro locks aren't casting corruption |
| 00:38.11 | Primer | Cos + SB spam |
| 00:38.29 | aestil | i know, |
| 00:38.30 | Primer | high agro though |
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| 00:39.12 | aestil | i'm saying, i wish i could see the difference between imp instant currption and amp doom, vs sac succy in overall dps. |
| 00:39.24 | aestil | +factoring in nightfall to that equation |
| 00:39.43 | aestil | DPSC is pretty good for curruption, yes? |
| 00:40.00 | Ellipsis | with instant and emp, yeah |
| 00:40.05 | aestil | right. |
| 00:40.24 | aestil | so, i'm just wondering, if you factor in that currpution, + the amp'd doom [1 out of every 3 right?] |
| 00:40.42 | aestil | how far off from the dps of the 0/21/40 is it really. |
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| 00:42.35 | Primer | I'm betting DSSF still wins out |
| 00:42.51 | Primer | as long as the tank can hold agro :) |
| 00:44.03 | aestil | i know that DS SnF wins. i'm wondering by how much. |
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| 01:09.05 | Industrial | 50k |
| 01:11.05 | NeoTron | wow. currpution is a rather creative spelling |
| 01:12.20 | Primer | hrmm |
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| 01:12.57 | Primer | I was thinking about the pitbull "profile per raid 10/25/40" |
| 01:13.21 | Primer | I wonder how hard it'd be to add a manual toggle that'd simply pick a config file? |
| 01:13.53 | Primer | one would setup the raid frames for 10, save, then 25, save, 40 |
| 01:14.01 | Primer | save separate files, that is |
| 01:14.17 | NeoTron | I wonder why I tend to top DPS on supremus over affliction locks |
| 01:14.26 | NeoTron | in theory they should be better at dpsing in phase 2 |
| 01:27.01 | kenlyric_ | just stab anyone who uses pitbull for raids, then that'll fix it. |
| 01:27.25 | NivFreak | =/ |
| 01:27.53 | NivFreak | Primer: I'd be happy if I could just link the raid frames together and move them as a group ;) |
| 01:28.03 | NivFreak | or have a way to align left/top |
| 01:28.18 | kenlyric_ | they don't link together? |
| 01:28.26 | NivFreak | not by default at least |
| 01:28.27 | kenlyric_ | that's just epic fail. |
| 01:28.30 | NivFreak | and I didn't find any way |
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| 01:28.32 | kenlyric_ | oh, maybe there's a setting? |
| 01:28.53 | NivFreak | no idea |
| 01:29.08 | NivFreak | I use seperate healing frames ;) |
| 01:29.41 | NivFreak | the amount of information I like to have, isn't displayed well by grid |
| 01:29.48 | NivFreak | or at least |
| 01:29.53 | NivFreak | my brain fails by the point that it is |
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| 01:30.27 | kenlyric_ | I'll admit, it's a learning hurdle. |
| 01:30.35 | kenlyric_ | and then you're forever trapped. |
| 01:36.22 | Industrial | December 20th 2007; The day the earth exploded. Industrial dings 70. |
| 01:37.01 | Industrial | Ellipsis: -------^ |
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| 01:37.29 | Industrial | took em 11 months |
| 01:37.30 | Ellipsis | I never thought I'd say this...but grats on 70 :'( |
| 01:37.31 | kenlyric_ | only took 3 years? |
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| 01:37.40 | kenlyric_ | no, the world will explode when ckknight hits 70. |
| 01:38.02 | Ellipsis | no, that's when the sun explodes |
| 01:38.12 | kenlyric_ | heat death of the universe |
| 01:38.42 | Industrial | ok so um |
| 01:38.44 | Industrial | what now? |
| 01:38.46 | Industrial | lulz |
| 01:39.02 | Ellipsis | attune for kara imo |
| 01:39.13 | kenlyric_ | ballz to that |
| 01:39.17 | kenlyric_ | leech SSC/TK |
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| 01:39.35 | Ellipsis | Indy needs to start slow |
| 01:39.46 | kenlyric_ | *leech SSC/TK |
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| 01:40.02 | kenlyric_ | what? |
| 01:40.07 | kenlyric_ | COW-9? |
| 01:40.22 | Ellipsis | a jira ticket |
| 01:40.24 | Stan_ | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/COW-9 |
| 01:40.49 | Aeyan | Congrats Industrial |
| 01:42.04 | Industrial | ta |
| 01:49.01 | Primer | NivFreak: that would be nice too |
| 01:49.05 | khangg | :o grats |
| 01:49.13 | aestil | so, if you have a ps3, can you stream xvid's to it wirelessly to watch on the tv? |
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| 01:59.51 | NeoTron | so I think the 2.3 patch, or some change to the ace libs or something, made recount leak (or misuse?) memory somehow |
| 02:00.10 | aestil | cause recount hasn't always been a memory hog? |
| 02:00.20 | NeoTron | it hasn't had the effect I see it having now, no |
| 02:00.31 | NeoTron | 2.3 changed how they did garbage collection |
| 02:00.37 | aestil | after 1 raid i had around 75mb used after GC using recount. |
| 02:00.37 | NeoTron | it's possible that affected it |
| 02:00.49 | Arrowmaster | 2.3 made GC better |
| 02:00.52 | NeoTron | Ace2 gets huge 50+ MB after partial raids |
| 02:00.56 | kenlyric_ | it's the the garbage |
| 02:00.58 | kenlyric_ | it's the data. |
| 02:01.00 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: it does it more often |
| 02:01.03 | kenlyric_ | *not the garbage |
| 02:01.33 | NeoTron | I am not sure how lua GC works but it's not ref counted, which means the more data, the more work to gc |
| 02:01.35 | aestil | wtb 2.4 and new dmg meters like recount that are uber accurate and detailed like wws. |
| 02:01.36 | NeoTron | I'd assume |
| 02:02.00 | NeoTron | problem is I depend on the death log (much better than grim reaper) at times and like to get other data |
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| 02:02.09 | NeoTron | being a raid leader, it helps but recount is just too hoggy |
| 02:02.13 | NeoTron | what else is there? |
| 02:02.16 | kenlyric_ | does recount even have an option to automatically flush its data at specific times? |
| 02:02.31 | Chompers | is 40mb really too much? |
| 02:02.40 | aestil | i'd like a mod, that takes the saved combat log, that you wrote, and then post raid, allows you to 'load it' and analyze it. |
| 02:02.49 | kenlyric_ | out of a game that used 500mb of ram all by itself. |
| 02:02.50 | Chompers | it does provide a great deal of information, maybe it's worth it |
| 02:02.51 | NeoTron | Chompers: I don't care too much about memory use |
| 02:02.56 | NeoTron | but it affects myf rame rates significantly |
| 02:03.00 | Chompers | oh? |
| 02:03.00 | NeoTron | making gameplay choppy |
| 02:03.20 | kenlyric_ | that is strange. |
| 02:03.32 | NeoTron | clearing it definitely makes it better for a while |
| 02:03.49 | aestil | 2.3.2 must be having lots of problems? seems like its been on PTR forever. |
| 02:03.51 | Chompers | what type of processing goes on when it's got data |
| 02:04.06 | Industrial | oh right ckknight |
| 02:04.10 | NeoTron | I actually probably could lower the duration of saved data |
| 02:04.10 | Industrial | I BEAT YOU PWNT LULZ |
| 02:04.14 | NeoTron | it does hav ethat stuff in you |
| 02:04.14 | Industrial | xD |
| 02:04.21 | NeoTron | and perhaps limit what I collect |
| 02:04.34 | NeoTron | tracks a lot of shit I don't car about though like activiity levels |
| 02:05.31 | kenlyric_ | you absolutely have to do that. |
| 02:06.07 | NeoTron | I don't think I can make it not collect all the data I don't care about |
| 02:06.32 | Chompers | i hope recount gets made for 2.4, it needs a better method of fight data selection |
| 02:06.35 | NeoTron | I used to use the graphs a lot but no longer need that |
| 02:06.39 | Chompers | past 5 fights isnt enough |
| 02:06.41 | NeoTron | or rather don't often use it |
| 02:06.56 | NeoTron | cryect quit wow so it's unlikely |
| 02:07.23 | kenlyric_ | why not just use violation or... uh... the other one. |
| 02:07.28 | Chompers | something will be made in its place |
| 02:07.55 | _rane | how do i configure mount speed bonus items with MountUp? |
| 02:08.39 | _rane | oh, it's automatical |
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| 02:09.16 | aestil | halp with math please. currpotion gets how much of your +dmg base, and how much with imp corruption? |
| 02:09.24 | Ellipsis | currpotion, lulz |
| 02:09.43 | aestil | dont' make me glare at yoU! |
| 02:09.53 | Ellipsis | Corruption 93.6% (129.6% with Empowered Corruption, 151.2% w/ T4 4-piece set bonus) |
| 02:09.57 | Ellipsis | according to wowwiki |
| 02:10.03 | NeoTron | if you spell corruption correctly we might know what you talk about ;-) |
| 02:10.30 | NeoTron | kenlyric_: I tried one other and didn't like the ui |
| 02:10.31 | aestil | am i correct that it gets 93% of your +dmg when imp'd? |
| 02:10.45 | aestil | no one in my guild is wearing 4/5 T4. |
| 02:10.52 | aestil | so 93.6% |
| 02:10.52 | Ellipsis | what do you mean imped |
| 02:10.54 | Ellipsis | empowered? |
| 02:10.58 | aestil | improved |
| 02:11.13 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 02:11.14 | aestil | but sure, if the talent is called empowered, i'll go with that. |
| 02:11.14 | NeoTron | that's just a cast time change |
| 02:11.15 | Ellipsis | imp won't matter |
| 02:11.27 | aestil | i refer to the other talent as 'instant' |
| 02:11.31 | Ellipsis | talents changing cast times doesn't affect their damage coefficients |
| 02:11.32 | aestil | so there are instant and imp |
| 02:11.36 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 02:11.37 | Ellipsis | imp is instant |
| 02:11.39 | NeoTron | no |
| 02:11.39 | Ellipsis | emp is empowered |
| 02:11.43 | NeoTron | there's improved and empowered |
| 02:11.44 | aestil | but thats because i don't know names of these talents. |
| 02:11.48 | aestil | ok. |
| 02:11.49 | aestil | fine. |
| 02:12.46 | NeoTron | they should just make corruption instant for everyone |
| 02:12.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah.... |
| 02:12.59 | Ellipsis | and green fire |
| 02:13.01 | Ellipsis | !!! |
| 02:13.08 | Gnarfoz | fire is not green |
| 02:13.14 | Ellipsis | it should be |
| 02:13.24 | Gnarfoz | then it'd be something else than fire |
| 02:13.25 | Arrowmaster | instant corruption would make 0/21/40 hands down the highest dps build |
| 02:13.49 | kenlyric_ | Gnarfoz: it would be fel fire |
| 02:13.54 | NeoTron | fire can too be green |
| 02:14.11 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: and it isn't already? :P |
| 02:14.13 | Gnarfoz | indeed, but who keeps burning copper or whatever turns it green all the time |
| 02:14.30 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: well it is if your using CoD |
| 02:14.35 | NeoTron | corruption is slightly better DPSC than shadow bolt but also doesn't crit |
| 02:14.52 | kenlyric_ | color of fire is decided entirely by what it's burning and the temp it burns at. |
| 02:15.02 | aestil | can someone do a bit more math with me? |
| 02:15.11 | aestil | assume a lock has 1065+ shadow dmg |
| 02:15.11 | Arrowmaster | what do you need? |
| 02:15.19 | aestil | with emp and imp corruption |
| 02:15.28 | Arrowmaster | what other talents? |
| 02:15.32 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/kboenophesfxo?s=8909-9195 |
| 02:15.34 | Ellipsis | SM too? |
| 02:15.41 | Arrowmaster | contagion? |
| 02:15.42 | aestil | the DPSC of corruption would be 1264? |
| 02:15.43 | NeoTron | aestil: get a warlock spreadsheet |
| 02:15.50 | aestil | DOH WAHT ARE THOSE OTHER SPELLS? |
| 02:15.55 | aestil | this is asusming 21/0/40 |
| 02:15.59 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 02:16.01 | Arrowmaster | sec |
| 02:16.12 | aestil | so no other affliction shit. |
| 02:16.17 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 02:16.24 | aestil | i'm trying to figure out the DPSC of that corrutption |
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| 02:16.30 | Ellipsis | with or without ISB up |
| 02:16.34 | aestil | without |
| 02:16.34 | NeoTron | I was second DPS on that chart - used 2 CoD and then CoW or something.. but I was testing felhunter sacced |
| 02:16.34 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 02:16.46 | aestil | because i would compare it to'vanilla' SB |
| 02:17.38 | aestil | my math says dpsc is 1264 for that corruption |
| 02:18.02 | aestil | i would need a lock spreadsheet to see what the SB would be DPSC |
| 02:19.27 | Arrowmaster | 2284.5 dpsc i think...... |
| 02:19.58 | Arrowmaster | 900+1065*1.3 |
| 02:21.21 | NeoTron | aestil: that is sort of an interesting spec to consider |
| 02:21.24 | NeoTron | I wonder how it'd work |
| 02:21.45 | aestil | wtf is 900+1065*1.3 for? |
| 02:21.52 | NeoTron | question is |
| 02:21.57 | NeoTron | is SM better than S&F? |
| 02:21.57 | aestil | corruption would be 900+1065*.936 |
| 02:22.01 | aestil | SM? |
| 02:22.06 | Arrowmaster | sorry |
| 02:22.08 | Arrowmaster | 2280.24 |
| 02:22.17 | NeoTron | actually you can't get SM w/o another 5 points |
| 02:22.22 | NeoTron | Shadow Mastery |
| 02:22.35 | Killmore2 | WTB World of Warcraft ads with Chuck Norris |
| 02:22.36 | Ellipsis | you'd sacrifice more than SnF if you wanted SM |
| 02:22.37 | Arrowmaster | 900+1065*1.296 |
| 02:23.00 | Arrowmaster | SnF > SM if talking about just shadowbolt dps |
| 02:23.03 | Gnarfoz | Killmore2: there's Will it blend? with Chuck NOrris |
| 02:23.03 | NeoTron | you're sacrificing 15% dmg for instant emp corruption, imp Coa (possibly) and siphon life |
| 02:23.06 | Gnarfoz | it's the next best thing |
| 02:23.12 | aestil | why is it 900+1065*1.296 |
| 02:23.26 | aestil | CoA will always be fail compared to CoD |
| 02:23.32 | Killmore2 | Gnarfoz: its a wish |
| 02:23.33 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: did they blend chuck norris? I'd expect the blender to assplode |
| 02:23.35 | Arrowmaster | 1065 is spell damage |
| 02:23.41 | NeoTron | aestil: not necessarily so, depends on spec |
| 02:23.42 | aestil | 900 is base spell dmg |
| 02:23.43 | Arrowmaster | 1.296 is the coef |
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| 02:23.47 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: see for yourself. also, "assplode" is not a word xD |
| 02:23.51 | aestil | how is that the coefficient? |
| 02:23.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah CoA > CoD for my spec |
| 02:24.03 | Arrowmaster | because it is |
| 02:24.07 | aestil | for corruption? |
| 02:24.12 | aestil | a 2 sec casted spell? |
| 02:24.16 | Arrowmaster | its a dot |
| 02:24.23 | Gnarfoz | http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=chuck |
| 02:24.28 | Arrowmaster | cast time doesnt matter |
| 02:24.52 | Arrowmaster | its 93.6% (129.6% with Empowered Corruption) |
| 02:24.53 | aestil | dang |
| 02:25.30 | Arrowmaster | give me full stats for character and this 21/0/40 spec |
| 02:25.32 | aestil | so DPSC is 1697 for it given those numbers |
| 02:25.44 | aestil | !c us darkspear lastwords |
| 02:25.46 | ThraeBot | aestil: Lastwords, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 10351 HP; 8832 Mana; 110 mana regen; 295 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 848 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (902); 217 shadow dmg (1065); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 1081 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2calyr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mupk6 ][ Updated: Wed Dec 19 21:28:40 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:25.49 | aestil | use that lock |
| 02:25.58 | aestil | or |
| 02:26.03 | aestil | !c us darkspear kirae |
| 02:26.06 | ThraeBot | aestil: Kirae, Level 70 Human Warlock (5/45/11). 10856 HP; 9218 Mana; 110 mana regen; 194 spell crit; 200 spell hit; 1211 +spell dmg; 163 shadow dmg (1374); 4.36% dodge; +35 all resists;[[ TBR: 1592 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hp5xo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dys5n ][ Updated: Wed Dec 19 21:29:00 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:26.21 | Paene | !c us scilla lenwe |
| 02:26.22 | Ellipsis | holy low damage |
| 02:26.33 | ThraeBot | Paene: Lenwe, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (24/37/0). 6481 HP; 9465 Mana; 403 mana regen; 206 mp5; 699 +spell dmg; 1869 +heal; 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 877 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yszc2g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ns27f ][ Updated: Wed Dec 19 21:29:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:26.51 | aestil | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMdmofzZZEx0tr0zVhq |
| 02:27.54 | aestil | the thing about the 21/0/40 spec thats kinda nice, is that its more forgiving in a way. |
| 02:28.17 | aestil | its easier to be close to the 'maximum' dps of the spec for that than it is for the 0/21/40 spec |
| 02:28.24 | aestil | because of better dots. |
| 02:28.44 | aestil | any movment/interuption in spell casting [silences, oor etc..] hurts 0/21/40 more. |
| 02:29.13 | aestil | do 0/21/40 builds still cast corruption even though it isn't instant? |
| 02:29.29 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:29.33 | Arrowmaster | it hurts dps |
| 02:29.48 | aestil | btw, how is it possible that amp'd doom isn't better than amp'd agony? |
| 02:29.56 | aestil | you have to cast agony like 2.4 times for every 1 doom |
| 02:30.00 | aestil | thats 1 extra SB |
| 02:30.13 | aestil | or do you always amp doom, and use agony in between? |
| 02:30.27 | aestil | amp'ing doom = buffing 1/3rd of your dooms |
| 02:30.28 | Arrowmaster | i just always use agony |
| 02:30.36 | Ellipsis | doom is always better |
| 02:30.42 | aestil | yes, thats what i thought. |
| 02:30.45 | aestil | doom is always better. |
| 02:30.48 | Ellipsis | unless the fight lasts < 60sec |
| 02:30.48 | Arrowmaster | SM doesnt effect doom |
| 02:32.32 | Arrowmaster | does that lastwords char have 5/5 devastation and 3/3 backlash? armory being slow for me |
| 02:36.42 | Arrowmaster | 1249.06 dps max from lastwords with that spec using CoD |
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| 02:38.05 | Arrowmaster | wait, 1301.13 |
| 02:38.09 | Arrowmaster | messed up the crit |
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| 02:39.25 | aestil | how far off is that from his max using 0/21/40? |
| 02:39.33 | aestil | not using corruption, but using CoD |
| 02:43.07 | Arrowmaster | 1379.91 |
| 02:43.18 | aestil | thats not a huge difference really. |
| 02:43.30 | aestil | its surely noticeable on fights where you stand in place an nuke. |
| 02:43.52 | aestil | but as soon as you miss SB's, you're probably doing better with the 21/0/40, and you have imp lifetap. |
| 02:45.06 | Arrowmaster | 1165 (warlock didnt have felarmor up in that armory) shadow is a little low for a SnF build though |
| 02:45.44 | CIA-8 | 03arkayenro * r57215 10ArkInventory/ (23 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:45.44 | CIA-8 | ArkInventory: |
| 02:45.44 | CIA-8 | - 2.24 |
| 02:47.25 | aestil | wouldn't more +dmg help amp'd doom and emp corruption a good amount too? |
| 02:47.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:47.46 | Arrowmaster | when you amp cod it only effects the base damage |
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| 02:47.56 | Arrowmaster | of 3600 or whatever it is |
| 02:48.06 | aestil | and then the +dmg is applied on top? |
| 02:48.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:49.04 | aestil | still, its interesting, because you lose dps in 'best case scenario's but any situation where silences, or mobility or multiple raid targets are an issue. |
| 02:49.11 | aestil | 21/0/40 isn't that bad. |
| 02:49.27 | aestil | meanwhile you get imp life tap, and soul siphon for 'oh crap moments' |
| 02:49.37 | aestil | sorry 'siphon life' |
| 02:50.20 | Arrowmaster | you could get 1281.51 max dps with a 41/0/15+5 build |
| 02:50.42 | Ellipsis | aestil: siphon life isn't something you do in an oh crap moment |
| 02:50.48 | Srosh | lua>1875+1125+3150+1500+1125 |
| 02:51.59 | aestil | Ellipsis: i'm referring to liek you are taking fire dmg on archimonde, [fire leaves a debuff on you] or all the healers get doom'd on that one fight in hyjal, or they all get ghosted on gorefiend, or you need a bit of extra healing on gurtogg |
| 02:52.31 | Arrowmaster | if you have doomfire on you either the healers heal it or you die |
| 02:52.46 | Arrowmaster | you cant touch that shit with any warlock selfhealing |
| 02:53.04 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 02:53.13 | Ellipsis | in most cases if you need to heal yourself you'll want to drain |
| 02:53.16 | aestil | Arrowmaster: you can live with veyr little health |
| 02:53.30 | Ellipsis | I think you're overestimating the win-ness of siphon life |
| 02:54.06 | Arrowmaster | wtb 2/5 t6 so i can get even higher on the overhealing meters |
| 02:54.49 | aestil | so, 21/0/40 is inherently fail then? |
| 02:54.56 | Ellipsis | not exactly |
| 02:54.57 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:55.02 | Ellipsis | but you're doing it for corruption, not siphon life |
| 02:55.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:55.35 | aestil | i didn't mean that it was 'for' siphon life. just that that was a nice bonus to the spec. |
| 02:55.44 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 02:55.49 | aestil | corruption and amp doom |
| 02:55.49 | Arrowmaster | if you need a lock thats going to always be available to have an imp for the MT or something then its a good spec when the rest of the locks want to go 0/21/40 |
| 02:55.51 | Ellipsis | either you cast it or you don't |
| 02:56.23 | aestil | Arrowmaster: whats the average dpsc of a SB with x/x/40? |
| 02:56.26 | Arrowmaster | but i think with higher +dmg the dps differences would get larger |
| 02:57.04 | buu | aestil: Lots? |
| 02:57.17 | Ellipsis | brb |
| 02:57.24 | buu | 21/0/40 will make me kill you. |
| 02:57.33 | aestil | why? |
| 02:57.44 | aestil | imp life tap, emp corrupt and amp doom are compelling |
| 02:58.00 | buu | Not compared to 15% shadow damage. |
| 02:58.02 | Arrowmaster | doom does more dmg with 0/21/40 |
| 02:58.18 | buu | aestil: The issue is that it comes down to damage per cast time |
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| 02:58.28 | buu | And putting 40 points in destro makes your damage per cast time for shadowbolt extremely high |
| 02:58.30 | aestil | the dpsc of emp corrupt should be very good. |
| 02:58.32 | buu | Probably higher than casting corruption |
| 02:58.34 | Arrowmaster | SM needs to fucking effect CoD |
| 02:58.35 | buu | aestil: Not really |
| 02:58.40 | aestil | yes, really |
| 02:58.43 | buu | aestil: Corruption has pretty low damage and does't get ruin |
| 02:58.57 | buu | corruption is 900 + ( .9 + .36 ) |
| 02:59.06 | Arrowmaster | then it would make my 42/0/19 more competitive with the rest of the locks in my guild that are 0/21/40 |
| 02:59.08 | buu | Shadowbolt is like 620 + ( .85 + .2 ) |
| 02:59.21 | buu | Arrowmaster: Shouldn't you be casting maledicted cos =/ |
| 02:59.30 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:59.37 | Arrowmaster | like i fucking have mal |
| 02:59.39 | buu | aestil: But, and here's the key point, sbolt gets +20% or more from crit. |
| 02:59.40 | Arrowmaster | no way |
| 02:59.41 | Ellipsis` | someone else can be the mal bitch |
| 02:59.42 | Ellipsis` | >_> |
| 02:59.43 | buu | Arrowmaster: WHY DO THEY BRING YOU. |
| 02:59.48 | buu | Ellipsis`: But if only one lock is affliction |
| 03:00.02 | Arrowmaster | because i have an imp |
| 03:00.12 | Ellipsis` | if only one lock is affliction then you need more locks |
| 03:00.15 | aestil | buu: here's the key, its all about dpsc. in 1.5 seconds how much dmg does emp corrupt do? |
| 03:00.16 | buu | You're the only one who can get mal though. |
| 03:00.25 | buu | aestil: Less, generally. |
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| 03:00.33 | Ellipsis` | but yeah, it doesn't make much sense for the only aff lock in a guild not to have mal |
| 03:00.51 | Arrowmaster | yeah but if i was forced to not use a dmg curse then i would respec anyway |
| 03:01.14 | buu | Arrowmaster: I can't blame you, I throw cod also, but it's sort of dumb. |
| 03:01.54 | aestil | buu: saying 'less generally' isn't at all useful. |
| 03:02.01 | buu | aestil: Ok. |
| 03:02.07 | buu | aestil: Basic math, 1000 spell damage. |
| 03:02.17 | buu | Corruption: 900 + ( 1.26 * 1000 ) = 2160 |
| 03:02.30 | buu | 21 points doesn't get you SM or anything else that affects corruption |
| 03:02.31 | aestil | i know the dpsc of corrutpion at 1165 |
| 03:02.40 | aestil | what is the dpsc of sb |
| 03:02.41 | buu | That means dpsc is 1440 |
| 03:02.44 | aestil | using 21/0/40 |
| 03:02.56 | buu | Using shadowbolt |
| 03:03.11 | buu | 620 + ( 1.05 * 1000 ) |
| 03:03.20 | buu | 1670 |
| 03:03.33 | aestil | what is that math you just did? |
| 03:03.41 | buu | We call it "math" |
| 03:03.45 | buu | Shadowbolt damage. |
| 03:03.49 | aestil | what do those nubmers mean? |
| 03:03.57 | buu | Base damage + spell damage coefficient |
| 03:04.29 | buu | Now if you add 25% crit damage, you get 2087 |
| 03:04.46 | aestil | ok. |
| 03:04.49 | buu | Giving you a damage per cast time of 835 |
| 03:04.52 | aestil | and it takes 2.5 seconds to cast |
| 03:04.54 | aestil | yes. |
| 03:05.16 | aestil | i'm not saying that given ideal situations that 21/0/40 is > than 0/21/40 |
| 03:05.42 | aestil | i'm saying that when you have to move, or when you can dot multiple targets to great effect [vashj and KT are like this] 21/0/40 should be theoretically > than 0/21/40 |
| 03:05.56 | aestil | and that even when you are only standing and nuking 21/0/40 isn't such a terrible loss of dps. |
| 03:06.20 | aestil | your corrupt ticks still give nightfall proc chances. |
| 03:06.31 | buu | Nightfall is such a tiny amount of dps boost. |
| 03:06.43 | Arrowmaster | less than 40 dps |
| 03:06.47 | aestil | *nods* |
| 03:06.58 | aestil | i know. |
| 03:07.09 | aestil | in mobile fights its potentially a much bigger increase. |
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| 03:07.17 | aestil | or a more useful one at least. |
| 03:08.02 | buu | Hrm, I think my math is off someplace.. |
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| 03:08.37 | Arrowmaster | ohh new spreadsheet |
| 03:09.31 | aestil | i dont' think your math is off anywhere. |
| 03:12.00 | buu | aestil: It's not matching empirical evidence. |
| 03:12.22 | aestil | on trash 0/21/40 will kill. |
| 03:13.16 | aestil | on bosses 21/0/40 will close the gap, but still be less effective, unless there are mobility or silencing concerns, or there are multiple targets to dot, in which case the dpsc of emp corrupt catches up pretty quick. |
| 03:13.23 | chiper | wow, you guys are still talking about warlocks? |
| 03:13.37 | chiper | that conversation started, like, 5 hours ago |
| 03:14.01 | aestil | no, started around 2 hours ago. |
| 03:14.25 | aestil | empircal evidence also doesn't account for player skill, or people being used to doing certain things. |
| 03:14.27 | chiper | I left work more then two hours ago, and it was well underway long before I left work |
| 03:14.33 | aestil | liez |
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| 03:14.49 | aestil | ok, 3 hours ago |
| 03:16.20 | aestil | btw, i think your math failed buu, where you should have compared emp corrupt to DS SB |
| 03:16.35 | aestil | and still though, emp corrupt is pretty good dpsc |
| 03:26.40 | buu | aestil: Yeah, but it's less dps |
| 03:27.57 | buu | I guess the idea is that the slightly decreased dpct of SB in ds/snf compared to corruption is made up by the number o ftimes you cast sbolt vs corr |
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| 03:33.57 | Killmore2 | *(_@?#&*(@#%? @#? @#&*) hyjal crash again :( |
| 03:34.11 | Killmore2 | why this isntance always crash when we are on archimonde |
| 03:36.06 | Aens|Superiority | blizzard has it out for you |
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| 03:53.36 | aestil | buu: i know that ds/snf is > dps, but 21/0/40 is a bit more flexible. |
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| 04:25.18 | Tricksta_ | sigh |
| 04:25.50 | Tricksta_ | Been away from WOW for a year now and they still never fixed that silly LFG system |
| 04:26.14 | Arrowmaster | well theres your problem |
| 04:26.19 | Arrowmaster | you expected it to get better |
| 04:26.23 | Tricksta_ | heh |
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| 04:28.45 | Tricksta_ | Now you go and sit through all the spam in the LFG or Trade channel .....was just wondering if anyone has written some kind of addon that would filter keywords in both channels ...IE - /lfg lbrs udm uldaman (this would trigger channel to display when these words are said) |
| 04:29.03 | kenlyric_ | wow, you ahve been away a long time. |
| 04:29.17 | kenlyric_ | nobody says lbrs anymore |
| 04:29.19 | Tricksta_ | ooops cant type /lfg no more ...ok |
| 04:29.26 | Tricksta_ | Lol bad example |
| 04:29.30 | RaydenUni | http://beta.bloglines.com/b/view#view-subid.46110896-mode.feeds%26t%3D1198124882496 |
| 04:29.35 | RaydenUni | i thought this was a rumor |
| 04:32.06 | Gngsk | RaydenUni, login? |
| 04:32.18 | RaydenUni | i just did gues |
| 04:32.19 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 04:32.20 | RaydenUni | wrong link |
| 04:32.39 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/19/media-player-boosts-wow-performance/ |
| 04:37.09 | Tricksta_ | ponder |
| 04:37.30 | Tricksta_ | Ok makes no sense but worth a try |
| 04:39.19 | RaydenUni | i saw it on the forums |
| 04:39.25 | RaydenUni | and mentioned it here and everyone said rumor |
| 04:39.40 | RaydenUni | i really wonder what it could be |
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| 04:41.19 | Tricksta_ | I am trying to figure out what would trigger WOW to run smoother by playing an AVI |
| 04:41.24 | Tricksta_ | in WMP |
| 04:41.33 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 04:41.38 | Arrowmaster | its just opening WMP |
| 04:41.46 | Tricksta_ | Ahhh my bad |
| 04:42.10 | Arrowmaster | http://www.fileplanet.com/174303/170000/fileinfo/Srcdsfpsboost.exe-for-PHL-Server-Guide |
| 04:42.19 | Arrowmaster | that file does the exact same thing |
| 04:42.24 | Arrowmaster | source code included |
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| 04:45.25 | QuantumDelta | *pokies Antiarc* |
| 04:46.06 | Fin | quite, quite incredible this whole thing |
| 04:46.17 | QuantumDelta | poking antiarc? |
| 04:46.30 | Fin | and totally fucking just wrong, I mean, with the world |
| 04:46.32 | Ellipsis` | well not everyone can do that |
| 04:46.40 | Ellipsis` | I mean look what happens when we try... |
| 04:47.22 | QuantumDelta | emote spammage! |
| 04:47.28 | Ellipsis` | ow :( |
| 04:47.29 | Tricksta_ | heheh |
| 04:49.08 | Tricksta_ | Serious guys, is there any good LFG tools out there for WOW? IE - One that can filter keywords in LFG or Trade channel ...or one that scans for level range and class and send whispers once a list is geenrated by double clicking (used to be a nice addon called Headhunter for this) |
| 04:49.16 | Fin | public message spammers! |
| 04:49.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:49.22 | Tricksta_ | cry |
| 04:49.37 | Fin | no |
| 04:49.53 | Tricksta_ | Blizzard is so anti-social to the newbs! |
| 04:50.21 | Fin | yeah |
| 04:50.27 | Fin | it's all Blizzard |
| 04:50.41 | Tricksta_ | maybe its newbs like me |
| 04:50.45 | Tricksta_ | who knows |
| 04:51.16 | Fin | not the dirty illiterate inconsiderate rude turdy little twats who've just logged on and think the Internet is broken because it's not responding to voice commands |
| 04:51.32 | Fin | they have rights too |
| 04:51.49 | Fin | sorry did I type that out loud? |
| 04:52.11 | Ellipsis` | no |
| 04:52.15 | Ellipsis` | I didn't hear a thing |
| 04:52.52 | Fin | do you know, I think beer is possibly the finest and most wonderful vindication of God's great love to us all, I might just cry |
| 04:53.17 | Fin | praise ye, oh lord, for thy art wise and true, and yay for we have beer |
| 04:53.43 | Fin | although I wish he'd let up with the ye and thou and verily stuff |
| 04:54.22 | Ellipsis` | o.O |
| 04:54.38 | Fin | for thine is the glory, the kingdom, the power, and the glory... k? forever, no really, it's yours, fine job, but this beer thing - man |
| 04:54.55 | Fin | now there's a product |
| 04:55.07 | Fin | what does "thine is the glory" actually mean, anyway |
| 04:55.45 | Fin | "a form of the possessive case of the pronoun thou, now superseded in common discourse by your, the possessive of you, but maintaing a place in solemn discourse" |
| 04:56.26 | Fin | so, "for your(s?) is the kingdom, the power, and the glory" |
| 04:56.44 | Fin | your glory's way better than that other god we had last week |
| 04:57.05 | Fin | -the glory, |
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| 05:03.28 | Antiarc|Laptop | I can't help it that the connection here is sucky! |
| 05:03.33 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'm going home tomorrow though |
| 05:03.39 | Antiarc|Laptop | So disco city should stop soon |
| 05:05.22 | Fin | imagine a city where everything, everywhere was one big huge disco, day and night, in every shop and library and road and even in people's homes |
| 05:05.29 | Fin | wow |
| 05:06.17 | Ellipsis` | o.O |
| 05:07.14 | Fin | DER BOGGLE IST NICHT ALLOWEREN! |
| 05:07.27 | Fin | HALT DER BOGGLE NEIN! |
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| 05:18.34 | Fin | I wonder if whoever wrote the Blizzard forum has some sort of mandate to ensure that it is completely useless for search engines to try and index it |
| 05:18.52 | Fin | ... without using robots.txt, that is |
| 05:19.20 | Fin | perhaps it was like a drunk bet or something, where arbitrary rules get thrown in, like "and you can't use robots.txt! *hic*" |
| 05:20.27 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r57216 10Mapster/Coords.lua: Mapster: Coords: Remove the IsInInstance() check completely |
| 05:22.17 | Fin | I guess it's probably just me overreacting, it's just so many other sites make being indexed such a high priority |
| 05:23.06 | Ellipsis` | I think it was more like a dare |
| 05:23.11 | Fin | either noone pointed out that it might be useful, or it was deliberately ignored, or noone cared |
| 05:23.35 | Fin | that makes my soul crumble inside |
| 05:23.37 | Ellipsis` | "I bet you can't make the forums *impossible* to search, even using external tools" |
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| 05:24.48 | Fin | that would be OK, drunken dares are fun! yay Blizzzard |
| 05:25.25 | Fin | yay |
| 05:26.48 | Fin | anyone got a good link for Tales of the Past 3? |
| 05:26.56 | Fin | because I don't |
| 05:27.56 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 05:29.29 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 05:31.41 | Fin | ammo, amass, ah'm ant |
| 05:31.59 | Fin | that makes no sense but individually those are all very nearly words |
| 05:32.08 | Fin | you see how I work |
| 05:32.13 | Fin | free, unrestricted |
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| 05:32.15 | Fin | like |
| 05:32.16 | Ellipsis` | o.O |
| 05:32.22 | Fin | the wind! |
| 05:32.24 | [Ammo] | argh, it's too early! |
| 05:32.34 | Fin | sorry, sorry |
| 05:32.34 | [Ammo] | need coffee |
| 05:32.36 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 05:32.39 | Ellipsis` | you both do, imo |
| 05:33.04 | [Ammo] | I need coffee and some very loud Judas Priest |
| 05:33.28 | Fin | I wonder if there's actually a priest somewhere called Judas |
| 05:33.36 | Fin | I bet he gets the piss taken out of him by all the other priests |
| 05:33.41 | [Ammo] | to the armory batman! |
| 05:34.19 | Fin | can I just ask |
| 05:34.40 | Fin | does this represent the physical appearance of an average game developer: http://qs1183.pair.com/gdconf/phpadsnew/adimage.php?filename=120x600_keynote.gif&contenttype=gif |
| 05:34.50 | Fin | he scares me |
| 05:35.46 | Fin | he's like, DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT I COULD DO TO YOU IF THEY WOULD JUST UNCUFF ME FRO THIS TABLE, DO YOU |
| 05:35.49 | dylanm | Is that the CEO guy they're talking about in the ad? |
| 05:35.58 | dylanm | Cos he's not really a developer then, no? |
| 05:36.16 | dylanm | Google images reveals yes |
| 05:36.19 | dylanm | He's very scary |
| 05:36.34 | dylanm | http://www.easybourse.com/Images/Upload/Interviews/Michel-Guillemot.jpg |
| 05:36.49 | dylanm | In that one he kinda looks like the G-man but not really |
| 05:36.50 | Fin | I don't know, he's on an ad for a game developer's conference, there's no label really except the sinister look in his eyes and the creepy smile that means HE WANTS TO KILL |
| 05:36.59 | Fin | oh! |
| 05:37.02 | [Ammo] | shave his head -> hitman! |
| 05:37.03 | dylanm | He does obviously thirst for blood |
| 05:37.07 | Fin | the face behind the face! |
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| 05:37.21 | Fin | I see in this photo he is much more relaxed |
| 05:37.31 | Fin | perhaps he has sated himself on a fresh kill |
| 05:37.44 | Fin | more approachable and open to all |
| 05:38.14 | Fin | actually if you flick between the two photos |
| 05:38.22 | Fin | no don't do that, it's horrible |
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| 05:40.31 | Fin | I'm sure he's a very nice man though, it's wrong of me to attribute violent murderous baby killing lust for blood and entrails to someone just because they're had a photo taken of them that makes them look sinister and scary |
| 05:40.51 | Fin | maybe it's an issue he's had to deal with his whole life |
| 05:41.07 | Fin | I can imagine what a problem that could be at like, christmas parties with the family |
| 05:41.41 | Fin | he tries, but always, "no Michel PLEASE honey look happy!", that could scar a man for life |
| 05:42.00 | Fin | ... leading him to take out his frustrated origins on the innocent! |
| 05:42.56 | Fin | I bet this is how agatha christie writes her novels |
| 05:43.19 | Fin | it's all about the characters |
| 05:43.36 | Fin | and the plot, and the story overall, and the quality of the writing |
| 05:43.41 | Fin | but it's all about the characters |
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| 05:51.19 | Fin | lighters need to stop fucking around and drop the pretensious suffix |
| 05:51.44 | Fin | no need, no need |
| 05:53.07 | QuantumDelta | giggle @ disco city antiarc |
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| 06:02.53 | Ozguli- | Gagorian's quit message didn't make sense... |
| 06:03.03 | Ozguli- | because all cows are sacred |
| 06:03.12 | Ozguli- | but not to everyone |
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| 06:13.53 | Xinhuan | !c us blackrock xinhuan |
| 06:14.43 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Xinhuan, Level 70 Gnome Mage (10/48/3). 7783 HP; 10001 Mana; 218 mana regen; 322 spell crit; 141 spell hit; 1014 +spell dmg/heal; 51 fire dmg (1065); 5.38% dodge; 55 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1640 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27btuv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sj6ym ][ Updated: Thu Dec 20 01:17:38 2007 EST ]] |
| 06:15.41 | CIA-8 | 03mikma * r57217 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua layouts/ABF.lua): ag_UnitFrames: added 4 positions for Auras: Topleft, Bottomleft, Topright, Bottomright |
| 06:15.53 | Xinhuan | .. i have 1640 tbr in pve gear? that bot is fucked ;p |
| 06:17.13 | Zhinjio | !c us hellscream zhinjio |
| 06:17.16 | ThraeBot | Zhinjio: Zhinjio, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (0/49/12). 13697 HP; 4713 Mana; 89 mana regen; 5 mp5; 14827 Armour; 82.900 Melee DPS; 4.21% melee crit; 13 melee hit; 196 +spell dmg/heal; 351 defense; 16.85% dodge; 25.42% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 858 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yorw4p ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y9hc7 ][ Updated: Thu Dec 20 01:20:12 2007 EST ]] |
| 06:21.05 | Xinhuan | woooooooooo |
| 06:21.11 | Xinhuan | public holiday today yaaay |
| 06:21.36 | Mudkipz | woo |
| 06:21.37 | Mudkipz | -_- |
| 06:21.44 | Mudkipz | http://www.break.com/index/perfectly-executed-ramp-jump.html |
| 06:21.46 | Mudkipz | watch and learn |
| 06:21.50 | Xinhuan | happy hari raya haji :D |
| 06:22.47 | Xinhuan | now now, that's not very nice |
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| 06:24.19 | Mudkipz | i had to rewind it at least 10 times |
| 06:24.25 | Mudkipz | I used to be into this irl |
| 06:25.26 | Gngsk | is it possible to get exalted with both desolace centaur reputations |
| 06:25.39 | Mudkipz | ... |
| 06:25.44 | Mudkipz | isn't that a bit pointless? |
| 06:25.52 | Gngsk | that wasn't my question |
| 06:26.03 | Mudkipz | meh your life |
| 06:26.42 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think you could even get to exalted with one of them |
| 06:29.18 | Xinhuan | the max is 11999/12000 with either faction |
| 06:29.35 | Xinhuan | no quest or mob gives rep beyond that |
| 06:29.48 | Xinhuan | * NEW - freeSlots, bagType = GetContainerNumFreeSlots(bagIndex) -- Returns the number of free slots in a bag, and the type of items that can go in the bag. For bagType, 0 means any item can go in the bag. |
| 06:29.51 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 06:29.56 | Xinhuan | when did this get added |
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| 06:46.52 | durcyn | oh hello antiarc. |
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| 10:53.51 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | All I want for xmas is Ace3 Beta. |
| 11:01.38 | chexsum | !purl |
| 11:01.42 | chexsum | ~purl |
| 11:01.43 | purl | See ~purl |
| 11:01.55 | starlon | ~~ |
| 11:01.56 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 11:01.57 | chexsum | ~lart Fin |
| 11:01.57 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on Fin's head |
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| 11:07.17 | chexsum | ~vista |
| 11:07.17 | purl | You're not serious, are you? |
| 11:07.45 | chexsum | ~warlock |
| 11:07.45 | purl | i heard warlock is Warlocks do it over time |
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| 11:07.55 | chexsum | so dirty |
| 11:09.03 | chexsum | !tequila is good |
| 11:09.07 | chexsum | oops |
| 11:09.11 | chexsum | ~tequila is good |
| 11:09.12 | purl | ...but tequila is already something else... |
| 11:09.16 | chexsum | nooo |
| 11:09.20 | chexsum | ~tequila |
| 11:09.20 | purl | tequila bring pain! |
| 11:10.56 | chexsum | ~queue |
| 11:10.57 | purl | Innovative load-balancing/batch-processing system and rsh replacement. URL: http://bioinfo.mbb.yale.edu/~wkrebs/queue.html |
| 11:11.07 | chexsum | wrong |
| 11:11.34 | chexsum | !forget queue |
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| 11:11.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 11:11.39 | chexsum | ~forget queue |
| 11:12.15 | chexsum | ~momma |
| 11:12.15 | purl | -rwx------ 1 apt dpkg 131 Dec 22 16:59 /etc/cron.daily/your_mom* |
| 11:12.22 | chexsum | lol |
| 11:13.11 | chexsum | ~qnx |
| 11:13.11 | purl | rumour has it, qnx is a realtime platform - a hybrid that represents a cross between a realtime operating system and a platform OS. or at http://www.eugeneteo.net/files/sites/ipaq/ or at http://www.qnx.com, or found at http://qnxzone.com/eQip/ |
| 11:13.27 | chexsum | no qnx is pain tequyuila is good!!@$#!@# |
| 11:13.54 | vhaarr | Industrial: got your botmail now, it's weird that it doesn't show your "Combat" set, are you running CG_Switcher? That might do it, I haven't checked that code in a while. |
| 11:14.55 | chexsum | ~shit-faced is what aussies are like after work |
| 11:14.55 | purl | okay, chexsum |
| 11:22.06 | vhaarr | lua> print("test") |
| 11:22.18 | vhaarr | how does this bot work again? |
| 11:22.31 | vhaarr | for the first time I find myself without a lua client available |
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| 11:23.05 | vhaarr | ah, no luabotg |
| 11:23.06 | vhaarr | -g |
| 11:23.18 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 11:23.25 | Silviu- | i was going to say that |
| 11:29.38 | Orionshock | vhaarr: /msg lua_bot lua> ... |
| 11:29.47 | vhaarr | yeah I got it |
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| 11:40.17 | [AR]Camci | what do ppl think about retri pala in 25 mans raids? :P |
| 11:40.27 | Kivin | what about ret paladin in 25 man raids? |
| 11:40.31 | Kivin | elaborate on your question |
| 11:40.51 | [AR]Camci | well i personally disagree of having retri paladins in my raid... |
| 11:41.01 | Kivin | May I ask why? |
| 11:41.02 | [AR]Camci | some ppl say they are good and such. i think they suck |
| 11:41.13 | Kivin | What level is your ret paladin? |
| 11:41.25 | [AR]Camci | i dont have a ret paladin |
| 11:41.38 | Kivin | Then forgive me, but it isn't your place to say they suck ;p |
| 11:41.59 | Kivin | Either you're keeping company of poor players in general or you don't have enough experience with retribution |
| 11:42.00 | [AR]Camci | well tell me what good are they in raids then? :P |
| 11:42.24 | [AR]Camci | im sure there is a reason why big guilds doesnt allow retri paladins in raids. |
| 11:42.47 | Kivin | They do same or better damage of rogues and ms warriors. They bless. They are low-maintenance for heals (can bubble), can prevent wipes, and raise the entire raid's crit rate by 3% and raw dps out by 2% |
| 11:43.00 | Kivin | They also refresh heal/tankadin's judgements |
| 11:43.05 | chexsum | coupled with a holy priest theyre ok |
| 11:43.14 | sb | errr wait |
| 11:43.18 | chexsum | theyre good for mage groups also |
| 11:43.27 | sb | retri pala does better damage than rogue? no way :p |
| 11:43.28 | chexsum | BoW ftw |
| 11:43.34 | Kivin | sb, it's been done |
| 11:44.00 | [AR]Camci | rarely tho lawl |
| 11:44.07 | chexsum | for dps ret isnt that good but with mana using dps its feasible |
| 11:44.11 | Kivin | i watched a video last night of a dorf paladin (belfs can do more dps, slightly) hit 2nd or 3rd place in dps in a black temple farming raid. i've seen dozens of WWS of similar |
| 11:44.22 | sb | ~impossible - retri pala will die (aggro) when trying to do >1k dps |
| 11:44.48 | Kivin | Camci, if you want an intelligent discussion about ret, fine, but if you're going to just make sweeping, poorly written, uninformed statements, I'm not going to waste my breath |
| 11:44.52 | chexsum | theyre all about offensive debuffs |
| 11:44.56 | sb | (and i dont even know if thats possible :o) |
| 11:44.58 | Xion` | how would a retardin stand in a longer fight after they're out of man? |
| 11:45.00 | Xion` | mana |
| 11:45.11 | Kivin | Xion, ret gets mana from heals and potions |
| 11:45.11 | [AR]Camci | retri doesnt have any agro reduce things right+ |
| 11:45.18 | Kivin | And seal of blood is VERY mana efficient |
| 11:45.21 | Kivin | yes it does, camci |
| 11:45.25 | Kivin | -30% from talents and salv |
| 11:45.29 | Kivin | 44% with both stacked |
| 11:45.30 | chexsum | white dmg is ok but nothing like dps classes |
| 11:45.42 | Kivin | Paladin has a much higher aggro ceiling than most classes |
| 11:45.43 | [AR]Camci | hmm |
| 11:45.50 | Kivin | chexsum, wrong |
| 11:45.52 | Xion` | and bubble if they get aggro |
| 11:45.58 | sb | i'd say in a fight where retri pally can do ~1k dps (w/o pulling aggro) - a good rogue will do 1500+ |
| 11:46.03 | Kivin | I can outdps most of the rabble tier 5 people on my server in my blues |
| 11:46.25 | chexsum | against raid bosses ? |
| 11:46.30 | Kivin | Frankly, I don't think any of you want to believe in Ret, and you're just being delusional. Look at hard numbers or roll it yourself |
| 11:46.36 | Kivin | chexsum, heroics |
| 11:46.43 | chexsum | heroics dont count |
| 11:46.54 | Kivin | But the WWS I read on a weekly basis do |
| 11:46.59 | chexsum | holy priest will pwnt you |
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| 11:47.07 | chexsum | doesnt mean theyre good though |
| 11:47.10 | sb | chexsum: thats correct |
| 11:47.11 | Kivin | <Kivin> Camci, if you want an intelligent discussion about ret, fine, but if you're going to just make sweeping, poorly written, uninformed statements, I'm not going to waste my breath |
| 11:47.14 | Kivin | replace Camci with chexsum |
| 11:47.20 | chexsum | same with mut rogue |
| 11:47.40 | [AR]Camci | there is a difference between 5 man and 25 man. i can accept a ret pala for 5 mans, big del :P but ill take a rogue over a pala anytime |
| 11:47.46 | [AR]Camci | chex w0t ? |
| 11:48.02 | chexsum | ~ret |
| 11:48.12 | chexsum | ~pally |
| 11:48.17 | chexsum | purl! |
| 11:48.21 | Kivin | Camci, I have years of experience raiding. I'm not making sweeping, uneducated remarks, here. I've seen videos and WWS dumps, and have personal experience in raids to support what I've seen. |
| 11:48.42 | chexsum | pally is a support class outside of 5 man |
| 11:49.01 | Kivin | Screw it, believe whatever you want to believe |
| 11:49.03 | chexsum | mana-based support |
| 11:49.16 | chexsum | esp holy priest :P |
| 11:49.24 | [AR]Camci | smite spec? |
| 11:49.30 | chexsum | yea |
| 11:49.57 | [AR]Camci | :d |
| 11:50.05 | chexsum | ret is good for hunters/mages/holy priest dps |
| 11:50.35 | chexsum | without those its replacable |
| 11:51.10 | chexsum | maybe shammy /omkin too but theyre decent at mp5 now |
| 11:51.50 | chexsum | if youre ret your job is to keep jow up |
| 11:52.09 | Kivin | screw that, get the healadin to judge wisdom |
| 11:52.14 | chexsum | and bop dps |
| 11:52.35 | chexsum | theyre usually in the heal group though |
| 11:52.44 | Kivin | so what? judgement is a debuff, it works on the entire raid |
| 11:53.33 | chexsum | healers dont hitt he boss thought |
| 11:53.54 | Kivin | *Sigh* let me spell it out for you |
| 11:53.58 | Kivin | Healadin judges wisdom once |
| 11:54.04 | Kivin | Retadin uses crusader strike to refresh it |
| 11:54.17 | chexsum | i know what youre getting at but pallys should be spamming fol\ |
| 11:54.26 | chexsum | :P |
| 11:54.31 | Kivin | Screw that |
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| 11:54.37 | chexsum | do it! |
| 11:55.05 | chexsum | bos/fol |
| 11:55.08 | chexsum | 2 keys |
| 11:55.23 | chexsum | l2pally |
| 11:55.23 | Kivin | glad blizzard is doing exactly the opposite of what you want paladins to become |
| 11:55.38 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 11:55.45 | chexsum | holy light obeoletes holy priests\ |
| 11:55.51 | chexsum | its bad karma |
| 11:56.13 | sb | holy priest is >> * in mh/bt :p |
| 11:57.09 | sb | i dont see how pallys/shamans could heal gurtogg w/o deep holy priest (unless you stack 9-10 healers in your group) |
| 11:57.21 | chexsum | if i see a pally go oom while the warr is taking <50% spike damage ill quit the raid |
| 11:57.38 | chexsum | the noobs are trying to do what theyre not built dto do |
| 11:57.50 | chexsum | and making me overheal (priest) |
| 11:58.55 | chexsum | gheal > hl |
| 11:59.39 | chexsum | blasme blizzard |
| 12:00.01 | Kivin | ok, now to go find some living rubys and make my gizmatic goggles |
| 12:00.14 | chexsum | in raids classes do certain things only or its a shambles |
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| 12:01.19 | chexsum | some noob druid was complaining about late heals the other day - wtf am i supposed to do with a 2.5s gheal |
| 12:01.38 | Kivin | as soon as people complain about my resto shaman's heals, they stop getting healed, period. |
| 12:02.10 | chexsum | resto shammys can use all the ir spells at any time |
| 12:02.21 | chexsum | nothings ever wasted |
| 12:02.51 | chexsum | easiest heal-class to play imo |
| 12:03.23 | chexsum | if blizzard made col target non-party memebrs holy priest would pwnt all classes at healing |
| 12:03.25 | Cheads | the 2 ret paladins we have always have lower dps than our warlocks, mages and rogues. But ofcourse it isn't just about DPS, debuffs and buffs help (more or less) other players too |
| 12:03.42 | sb | chexsum: col? |
| 12:03.53 | chexsum | circle of lol |
| 12:03.58 | sb | eh? |
| 12:04.08 | chexsum | 41 pt holy priest talent |
| 12:04.10 | sb | you know |
| 12:04.24 | chexsum | its pretty broken in 10-man raids |
| 12:04.29 | sb | yes it is |
| 12:04.37 | sb | and its pretty much overpowered in MH+BT |
| 12:04.43 | chexsum | yea |
| 12:04.55 | chexsum | esp with the range talent |
| 12:05.07 | sb | no problem to push out like 2.5k HPS (healing per second :p) in gurtogg fight |
| 12:05.49 | sb | i love that spell :o |
| 12:06.53 | chexsum | itd be nicer as a targets party heal |
| 12:07.08 | sb | hm it is? |
| 12:07.15 | sb | it heals the party of your target? |
| 12:07.23 | chexsum | nah you have to click the ground :( |
| 12:07.32 | sb | eh no? |
| 12:08.00 | sb | you target raid member and it will affect his group |
| 12:08.08 | chexsum | ive only spec'd it once on test realm |
| 12:08.23 | sb | then go, respecc |
| 12:08.27 | sb | its really powerful :o |
| 12:08.41 | chexsum | nah im 41 pt holy but no colol |
| 12:09.14 | chexsum | its a mana drain without the disc talent to reduce instant cast cost |
| 12:09.14 | sb | chexsum: http://wowwebstats.com/agmxkhwq1mspm?s=10193-10825 |
| 12:09.38 | sb | i have 3 pts in mental agility!? |
| 12:09.49 | sb | 19/42/0 spec |
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| 12:10.50 | chexsum | that guys got a lot of heal |
| 12:11.00 | sb | mh - its me? :/ |
| 12:11.21 | chexsum | oh |
| 12:11.30 | chexsum | 2k heal ? |
| 12:11.35 | sb | yes |
| 12:11.53 | chexsum | im a spirit priest so couldnt do that |
| 12:12.47 | sb | hm? |
| 12:13.09 | chexsum | im lost if i cant time needed gheals |
| 12:13.38 | sb | !c eu khaz'goroth smb |
| 12:13.46 | sb | mh, broken |
| 12:13.47 | chexsum | she broke |
| 12:13.48 | ThraeBot | sb: Smb, Level 70 Undead Priest (19/42/0). 8021 HP; 10050 Mana; 422 mana regen; 199 mp5; 21 spell crit; 739 +spell dmg; 1956 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1037 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xqwsh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pzwgc ][ Updated: Thu Dec 20 07:16:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 12:13.54 | chexsum | oh its him |
| 12:14.02 | Orionshock | ... so our guild master mixes up the raid groups for KZ (we have 3), and i the off tank of g1 get reassigned to MT of g3 :\ |
| 12:14.26 | Orionshock | i also get eff'ed into main pull for KZ |
| 12:14.58 | chexsum | ot pulling messes up threat |
| 12:15.28 | chexsum | how many times have healers died ? :P |
| 12:15.56 | chexsum | c us barthilas chamberlaine |
| 12:16.00 | chexsum | oops |
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| 12:16.06 | chexsum | pvp gear though |
| 12:16.14 | chexsum | !c us barthilas chamberlaine |
| 12:16.25 | ThraeBot | chexsum: Chamberlaine, Level 70 Undead Priest (24/37/0). 10991 HP; 9435 Mana; 224 mana regen; 99 mp5; 13 spell crit; 551 +spell dmg; 1417 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 502 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1031 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28y8nn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33avsm ][ Updated: Thu Dec 20 07:19:16 2007 EST ]] |
| 12:17.05 | chexsum | thought i had 41 holy :\ |
| 12:17.14 | Orionshock | i was off tank to g1, now MT to g3, and main pull |
| 12:17.22 | Orionshock | -.- never pulled in KZ |
| 12:17.31 | chexsum | wtf would you have 3 groups ? |
| 12:18.06 | Orionshock | ya |
| 12:18.19 | chexsum | raidquit imho |
| 12:18.24 | Orionshock | why? |
| 12:18.29 | Orionshock | works nicely |
| 12:18.41 | chexsum | 3 groups is strange |
| 12:19.02 | JoshBorke | if they have enough for 3 groups, what's the problem? |
| 12:19.03 | Orionshock | gives us a bigger pool of ppl for HKM/Gruul |
| 12:19.29 | chexsum | you mean guild group 3 ? |
| 12:19.43 | Orionshock | ya in guild - we have 3 KZ teams |
| 12:19.52 | sb | uhm JoshBorke - raidcast doesnt display anything yet (casts and stuff) - right? :p |
| 12:19.54 | chexsum | i thought you meant raid grouped |
| 12:21.01 | chexsum | ot pulling is weird unless its a druid though |
| 12:21.40 | Orionshock | wasn't pulling in g1, in g3 i am :P |
| 12:21.45 | chexsum | the big intitial heal screws up healer threat |
| 12:23.36 | Orionshock | sorry chexsum i got 5/5 dirty deeds, unable to parry or dodge finishing moves |
| 12:24.01 | [AR]Camci | O.o |
| 12:24.42 | chexsum | j/k |
| 12:26.11 | chexsum | ~shit-faced |
| 12:26.12 | purl | it has been said that shit-faced is what aussies are like after work |
| 12:27.21 | chexsum | ~suitup |
| 12:28.00 | chexsum | bleh not knowing scott adams adventure games! |
| 12:29.10 | JoshBorke | sb: right, it requires people to have CastCommLib or RaidCast installed |
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| 12:32.16 | sb | JoshBorke: mhhhh oh :) |
| 12:43.54 | vhaarr | anyone available to test a acecomm patch for me? |
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| 12:45.33 | Orionshock | yo |
| 12:45.41 | vhaarr | pm me your mail |
| 12:46.08 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57232 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: |
| 12:46.08 | CIA-8 | BetterInbox: |
| 12:46.08 | CIA-8 | - Add open all handling. use at own risk. Skips GM and COD messages |
| 12:47.54 | Orionshock | vhaarr: anything specific? |
| 12:48.02 | Xinhuan | Orionshock |
| 12:48.02 | vhaarr | Orionshock: sent, just run with it for some time and make sure you get some addon messages to serialize/deserialize, and also that you chance zones and log in/out/quit. |
| 12:48.09 | Xinhuan | does the tooltip still flicker |
| 12:48.18 | vhaarr | change* |
| 12:48.23 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: did u update bankItems? |
| 12:48.48 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 12:48.57 | Xinhuan | i changed the tooltip throttle from 0.005s to 0s |
| 12:49.05 | Xinhuan | can you test? |
| 12:49.10 | Xinhuan | update both BI and BI |
| 12:49.19 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:49.30 | Xinhuan | if it still flickers, i'll have to remove the throttle |
| 12:49.50 | vhaarr | Orionshock: if you can, try to get a acecomm message containing a table within a table, for example BugSacks error sending |
| 12:50.06 | Orionshock | kk, wb threat? |
| 12:50.16 | vhaarr | "wb"? |
| 12:50.37 | Orionshock | what about |
| 12:50.48 | Xinhuan | hey they could have named it "SuperiorInbox" ;p |
| 12:50.50 | vhaarr | not important |
| 12:51.15 | vhaarr | bugsack error send (you can send to yourself, just generate some errors with the bugsack menu), zoning, logging in/out, quitting |
| 12:51.46 | vhaarr | I think you can send to yourself, at least |
| 12:51.46 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: 'they' ? I'm glad you think I'm a royal ;) |
| 12:51.50 | [Ammo] | We decree ..... |
| 12:51.51 | vhaarr | I didn't limit that in BS itself |
| 12:51.57 | Xinhuan | <3 |
| 12:52.17 | [Ammo] | internal mail database error my ass grr |
| 12:52.35 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: pff, get those errors with the default mail UI as well |
| 12:52.38 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:52.46 | [Ammo] | I think my TakeAll is pretty good |
| 12:52.47 | vhaarr | retard error, should be more specific |
| 12:53.02 | [Ammo] | time for lunch |
| 12:53.40 | Orionshock | well vhaarr you did how ever manage to lock my client up.... |
| 12:53.52 | vhaarr | gah, I was afraid of that |
| 12:53.56 | vhaarr | sec |
| 12:54.35 | Xinhuan | the lockup bug is when you try to get the inbox itemlink before it loads or something |
| 12:54.46 | vhaarr | Orionshock: sent a new one |
| 12:56.04 | Orionshock | got about 10 errors but... not recoverable tho |
| 12:57.21 | Orionshock | aight Xinhuan no more gitter so what ever u 2 did it worked :D thx much |
| 12:57.36 | Xinhuan | excellent |
| 12:58.21 | vhaarr | Orionshock: what, you got 10 errors and you can't show them to me? |
| 12:58.36 | Orionshock | client locked up and i had to crash the program |
| 12:58.42 | vhaarr | please highlight when talking to me so I don't have to keep the chat window up at all times |
| 12:58.51 | vhaarr | Orionshock: after the new revision I sent? |
| 12:59.03 | Orionshock | no vhaarr previous one |
| 12:59.08 | vhaarr | right, forget about that one |
| 12:59.36 | [SW]Dodge | is there an ace based addon like Discord Unit Frames? :) (not aguf or pitbull?) |
| 13:00.28 | Adirelle | ~seen kaelten |
| 13:00.29 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 12h 11m 28s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 13:00.33 | Adirelle | erf |
| 13:00.59 | Adirelle | well... does anyone know which pre-commit hook is used on the svn repository ? |
| 13:01.12 | vhaarr | there are many |
| 13:01.21 | vhaarr | ask kergoth, maybe |
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| 13:04.50 | CIA-8 | 03andyca * r57233 10CastYeller/announces/ (mage.lua warlock.lua): |
| 13:04.50 | CIA-8 | CastYeller: Update warlock zhTW locale |
| 13:04.50 | CIA-8 | Added "Ritual of Refreshment" simple announce in mage class |
| 13:05.14 | JoshBorke | Adirelle: custom written ones |
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| 13:09.23 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57234 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): |
| 13:09.23 | CIA-8 | AlarAutomation |
| 13:09.23 | CIA-8 | 3.2.0 |
| 13:09.23 | CIA-8 | Feature: QUICKFISH when you are fishing, displays a cast button for fishing |
| 13:09.23 | CIA-8 | after you catch your fish, at the point your cursor is, ready to be |
| 13:09.24 | CIA-8 | clicked (even with right button, so you dont even need to move or change your finger.) |
| 13:09.25 | Orionshock | vhaarr: can i use bug sack and send the generated errors to myself... does bug sack let you do that? |
| 13:10.07 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57235 10AlarBGHelper/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:10.07 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 13:10.07 | CIA-8 | 3.1.2 |
| 13:10.07 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can now hide Honor marks recap in Fubar text |
| 13:10.41 | vhaarr | Orionshock: bugsack lets you do that, but I'm not sure if AceComm maybe prevents it internally -- if it doesn't work, try to do /script AceLibrary("AceComm-2.0").enableLoopback = true |
| 13:11.11 | vhaarr | and then send them again |
| 13:12.00 | Orionshock | BugSack: 2 errors has been sent to Atradies. If he does not have both BugSack and AceComm-2.0, he will not be able to read them. |
| 13:12.02 | Orionshock | BugSack: You've received 0 errors from Atradies, you can show them with /bugsack show received |
| 13:12.31 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 13:13.11 | vhaarr | Orionshock: care to degrade to the current SVN acecomm and see if it works then? |
| 13:13.33 | vhaarr | you had to set enableLoopback, right? |
| 13:14.10 | Orionshock | ya |
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| 13:14.45 | vhaarr | weird |
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| 13:15.19 | [SW]Dodge | is there an ace based addon like Discord Unit Frames? :) (not aguf or pitbull?) |
| 13:15.24 | vhaarr | no |
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| 13:15.46 | vhaarr | "MGM and New Line will co-finance and co-distribute two films, “The Hobbit†and a sequel to “The Hobbit.â€" |
| 13:15.54 | vhaarr | http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2007/12/18/28150-peter-jackson-and-new-line-cinema-join-with-mgm-to-produce-%e2%80%9cthe-hobbit%e2%80%9d/ |
| 13:16.21 | Xion` | meh |
| 13:16.31 | Wobin_ | old news =) |
| 13:16.43 | Xion` | that too |
| 13:18.10 | Orionshock | ..note to self, when downloading from http svn though fire fox, put in reversion number into file so it doesn't phook. |
| 13:22.10 | Orionshock | vhaarr: same responses with the SVN version |
| 13:22.13 | Orionshock | ... |
| 13:22.17 | vhaarr | okay "good" |
| 13:22.40 | vhaarr | Orionshock: are you running anything else that uses acecomm then, like cartographer guild positions or threat |
| 13:23.21 | vhaarr | just need something to test that stuff still works, and bugsack was the only example I could think of that could be used solo |
| 13:23.24 | vhaarr | maybe there are others |
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| 13:23.59 | Orionshock | hehe, i recently nix'ed cart for mapster |
| 13:24.05 | Orionshock | threat usualy ya |
| 13:27.31 | TheKarn | ~thekarn |
| 13:27.32 | purl | I'm a banana! |
| 13:27.36 | Orionshock | vhaarr: u play EU or US? |
| 13:27.54 | vhaarr | Orionshock: EU, but I don't have WoW here, or I'd just test it myself, obviously. |
| 13:27.58 | TheKarn | ~literal thekarn |
| 13:27.58 | purl | "thekarn" is "<reply> I'm a banana!" |
| 13:28.10 | TheKarn | ~purl |
| 13:28.11 | purl | See ~purl |
| 13:28.25 | TheKarn | :( |
| 13:28.45 | kenlyric | ~kenlyric |
| 13:28.45 | purl | you are probably <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
| 13:33.03 | chexsum | sick |
| 13:33.27 | chexsum | ~chexsum |
| 13:33.34 | chexsum | :((( |
| 13:33.47 | chexsum | ~chexsum is pro |
| 13:33.48 | purl | okay, chexsum |
| 13:36.33 | chexsum | lol someone just DId me against a premade |
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| 13:52.59 | chexsum | ~chexsum |
| 13:53.01 | purl | [chexsum] pro |
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| 14:03.18 | Kivin | If I wanted a Button frame to be drawn underneath a texture on the ARTWORK layer, how would I go about doing that |
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| 14:04.37 | Gngsk | so, is there something you have to do to get the champion of the naaru title besides do the trials and kill magtheridon? |
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| 14:06.23 | deltron | not sure if you can get the title anymore |
| 14:06.40 | Gngsk | oh, word |
| 14:06.43 | Gngsk | I thought you could, oh well |
| 14:07.05 | deltron | not sure actually |
| 14:07.09 | deltron | I still have the quests |
| 14:07.17 | Gngsk | I did 'em a long time ago on my rogue |
| 14:07.20 | deltron | never did them, though I should for the moneys |
| 14:07.29 | Gngsk | but I finished it recently on my hunter, about last week. no title |
| 14:07.38 | Gngsk | I was thinking maybe it'd come after maintenance but it hasn't |
| 14:09.05 | chexsum | heh premade down in 10m in wsg |
| 14:09.13 | chexsum | 80k heal ;) |
| 14:10.07 | Josh_Borke | Gngsk: you should get it as an option, yea |
| 14:10.17 | Gngsk | no option |
| 14:10.42 | chexsum | probably obsoleted like hwl/gm |
| 14:10.57 | chexsum | i still need arc to get mine |
| 14:12.18 | Polarina | The bitlib is buggy. |
| 14:14.37 | RaydenUni | http://warcraft.fibergeek.com/?p=546 |
| 14:14.37 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 14:15.00 | deltron | so sad i'm going to probably miss out on my 5v5 points :( |
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| 14:24.47 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r57236 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Fix it so we're not limited to 10 channels, in case blizz decides to change the limit + some other small tuneups. |
| 14:29.22 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: will that fix http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10102.msg166358#msg166358 = |
| 14:29.24 | Stanzilla | ? |
| 14:29.49 | vhaarr | no |
| 14:30.07 | Industrial | vhaarr: hai any info on cg_mount :>? |
| 14:30.18 | Industrial | why does it hide those sets >_> |
| 14:30.26 | vhaarr | Industrial: the way it's made now it should hide your Mount set, but not your Combat set, that doesn't make any sense. |
| 14:30.33 | vhaarr | Industrial: I'll just change it to not hide any sets at all |
| 14:30.42 | Industrial | okay :D |
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| 14:33.35 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r57237 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Don't hide the mount sets from the UI any more. |
| 14:33.39 | vhaarr | Industrial: try now |
| 14:34.23 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: kk |
| 14:34.27 | Industrial | oki |
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| 14:44.49 | RaydenUni | so you know those dragons in Blade's Edge? |
| 14:44.56 | RaydenUni | that ones that drop pieces for a cloak? |
| 14:45.16 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:45.17 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 14:45.17 | RaydenUni | well i found a group and we were killing the dragons |
| 14:45.27 | RaydenUni | when all of a sudden the tank and the dragon disappeared |
| 14:45.39 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 14:45.44 | RaydenUni | leaving the healer, 2 other dps, and myself sitting in the dragon's lair looking at each other |
| 14:45.45 | RaydenUni | wtf? |
| 14:46.00 | RaydenUni | turns out the dragon had kicked the tank right off the edge of the cliff |
| 14:46.55 | deltron | haha |
| 14:47.49 | RaydenUni | then dove right off after him |
| 14:48.10 | RaydenUni | i think the tank didn't die from the fall, but the dragon quickly finished him off and back up he came |
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| 14:52.31 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57238 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: Open dropdown now has 3 options All Mail, All Gold, All Items. |
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| 14:56.48 | Ordog | d |
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| 14:58.40 | Polarina | WTF?!? My code works in my Lua intepretor but NOT in World of Warcraft! |
| 14:59.04 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 14:59.05 | Xinhuan | why |
| 14:59.23 | Polarina | I have no idea. |
| 14:59.34 | Xinhuan | did it htrow an error |
| 14:59.39 | Polarina | No. |
| 14:59.55 | Polarina | It just generates wrong output, the function I'm making. |
| 15:00.03 | Xinhuan | you prob used a global func/var |
| 15:00.21 | Polarina | It generates the correct one in my inteperetor, but a wrong one in-game. |
| 15:00.30 | Xinhuan | is this code long? |
| 15:00.37 | Polarina | About 300 lines. |
| 15:00.46 | Xinhuan | could be interestubg to see it, what does it do |
| 15:00.57 | vhaarr | any non-english users with WoW running that can test something for me? takes 10 seconds. |
| 15:00.57 | Polarina | Calculates the Sha256 sum of a string. |
| 15:01.05 | Xinhuan | o_O |
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| 15:01.28 | Xinhuan | your 10 secs is over vhaarr |
| 15:01.29 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 15:01.40 | vhaarr | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 15:01.40 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to Xinhuan, and goes postal |
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| 15:01.52 | Xinhuan | lol at the postal reference |
| 15:03.17 | Polarina | I just don't see why that happens! |
| 15:03.37 | Xinhuan | do lots of print() everywhere |
| 15:03.41 | Xinhuan | and compare output |
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| 15:04.42 | Polarina | The code itself is correct. I tested (and even tried to replace) all global functions it used, even the bitlib, and still the same. |
| 15:04.50 | Polarina | Correct in my intepretor, incorrect in-game. |
| 15:05.09 | Lukian | <CIA-8> rabbit * r57237 ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Don't hide the mount sets from the UI any more. <- yay! that was annoying :D |
| 15:05.14 | Xinhuan | where do yu think the problem lies? |
| 15:05.49 | Ozguli- | pff.. windows lan = fail |
| 15:05.56 | Polarina | Xinhuan: In the modified C code Blizzard made to Lua. Most likely their tainting code is messing me up. |
| 15:06.16 | Xinhuan | i highly doubt that |
| 15:06.23 | cncfanatics | taint won't change the result of a function at all |
| 15:06.39 | cncfanatics | put prints everywhere |
| 15:06.43 | cncfanatics | and see where the difference is |
| 15:06.44 | Polarina | cncfanatics: That's what I meant, it's buggy. |
| 15:07.02 | Polarina | But I'm 100% sure that it's not my code. |
| 15:07.26 | Xinhuan | post the code? |
| 15:07.33 | Polarina | Sure. |
| 15:07.34 | Xinhuan | could poke at it |
| 15:07.51 | Xinhuan | post in #wowi too, there are more lua geeks in there |
| 15:08.25 | deltron | heh is that a challenge? |
| 15:08.33 | Polarina | http://rafb.net/p/TjiN0g48.html - It's a bit messy (Me trying to replace the globals). |
| 15:08.52 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57239 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: optimize the take all |
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| 15:10.08 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Mostly, none of my efforts there did change the result of that function, it is still incorrect, and correct in my intepretor. |
| 15:10.56 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 15:15.10 | Pkekyo| | FUCKSAKE |
| 15:15.13 | Pkekyo| | spiritressed in sanctum of the stares, and got brought back to life up at shadowmoon village, wtf?! |
| 15:15.22 | vhaarr | Polarina: just fyi, there's a library on wowace.com that provides MD5 hash functions. |
| 15:15.40 | Polarina | vhaarr: I don't want MD5. |
| 15:16.01 | Polarina | I want to know why my implementation doesn't work in-game. |
| 15:16.15 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, thats cuz you died near shadowmoon village & walked to the sanctum ? |
| 15:16.47 | vhaarr | Polarina: could be several reasons for that, lua has lots of compile options that might interfere, depends how the wow interpreter and your command line interpreter was compiled |
| 15:16.55 | vhaarr | Polarina: and also what version you're using, obviously |
| 15:17.02 | Polarina | 5.1.2 |
| 15:17.05 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: seriously? they found it in their heart to nerf CORPSERUNNING?! |
| 15:17.15 | Pkekyo| | between zones, I get it...but within the same bloody zone? |
| 15:17.24 | vhaarr | Polarina: afaik, wow uses 5.0 + a subset of 5.1/5.1.1, but I'm not sure |
| 15:17.34 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, it has always been that way |
| 15:17.36 | cncfanatics | since like, 1.0 |
| 15:17.39 | Polarina | vhaarr: WoW uses 5.1.1 |
| 15:17.41 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57240 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: mails can be sent with gaps between the attachments, so we can't rely on the itemCount, start countdown from ATTACHMENTS_MAX_RECEIVE |
| 15:17.56 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, makes it hell of alot harder for me to get all the TBC FPs |
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| 15:18.46 | vhaarr | Polarina: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lua511wow |
| 15:19.22 | Polarina | And? |
| 15:19.41 | [Ammo] | victory vs the blizzard inbox |
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| 15:20.57 | Polarina | These Lua compilation options don't affect that code. |
| 15:21.32 | Pkekyo| | as a mage, should I go for scryer or aldor? |
| 15:21.37 | Ozguli- | scryer |
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| 15:22.16 | Pkekyo| | because? |
| 15:22.23 | Ozguli- | better stuff? |
| 15:22.38 | sb | look at the shoulder enchants |
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| 15:22.48 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, tbh, the only thing you should look at is shoulder enchants |
| 15:22.52 | cncfanatics | all the rest will get replaced over time |
| 15:22.52 | sb | yes |
| 15:23.00 | Pkekyo| | only know the scyer meelee enchants |
| 15:23.15 | Pkekyo| | yay, I've got all FPs in terokkar and SMV |
| 15:23.25 | sb | caster is 15 crit / 12 dmg |
| 15:23.58 | Pkekyo| | zangarmarsh, here I come :) |
| 15:24.11 | thul | *dance* |
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| 15:24.35 | thul | Pkekyo|: where is my light, minimalist and sexy ui? :-( |
| 15:24.36 | Fisker- | vhaarr rawr |
| 15:24.37 | thul | *cry* |
| 15:25.09 | Pkekyo| | thul: well, I don't know, where did you have it last? |
| 15:25.20 | thul | :-( |
| 15:25.49 | thul | I'm thinking about doing a stance-based warrior ui. Just abilities avilable in berserker etc. |
| 15:26.16 | Pkekyo| | lolswut? |
| 15:26.47 | thul | lolswut? :-P |
| 15:27.08 | Pkekyo| | 1/2 zangarmarsh FPs down |
| 15:27.10 | cncfanatics | thul, FlexBar2 could work like a charm for that :p |
| 15:27.35 | Pkekyo| | and lots of l70s magnifying their epeen by ganking me >.< |
| 15:27.54 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: as would pretty much any other bar mod, no= |
| 15:27.54 | Pkekyo| | ? |
| 15:28.06 | thul | most bars does i think. |
| 15:28.18 | Pkekyo| | haven't seen one that doesn't yet |
| 15:28.52 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, I'm pulling every bloody hostile NPC in the entire zone |
| 15:29.12 | thul | haha |
| 15:29.31 | Pkekyo| | lvl 44 mage, passing through zangarmarsh, headed for netherstorm |
| 15:29.33 | thul | but still, I would like a minimalist ui, as few buttons as possible, I'll even consider removing the combat-log, since I seldom use it |
| 15:29.50 | Polarina | Grr... |
| 15:30.07 | Pkekyo| | thul: answer to your problems is simple...get dash! |
| 15:30.17 | Pkekyo| | put everything you don't frequently use on it |
| 15:30.35 | Pkekyo| | who's the author of autobar? |
| 15:30.42 | [Ammo] | toadkiller |
| 15:31.07 | vhaarr | Fisker-: merry fucking christmas |
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| 15:31.17 | Pkekyo| | ~seen toadkiller |
| 15:31.19 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13d 13h 9m ago, saying: 'no it needs to swallow a bear which swallowed a man'. |
| 15:31.32 | cncfanatics | thul, use flexbar ! ! |
| 15:31.48 | Pkekyo| | damnit, where did toadkiller go? |
| 15:31.49 | thul | hehe, why? :-P |
| 15:31.53 | thul | I use bartender3 now |
| 15:31.53 | Pkekyo| | thul, use bartender!! |
| 15:32.05 | genetik- | Antiarc|Laptop: does your reputation/faction comparison generator not work anymore or something? |
| 15:32.05 | Pkekyo| | yay |
| 15:32.06 | vhaarr | I just got an old laptop here set up with xchat so I'll be around, but I won't have wow or my computer available until 13th January again, zzz. |
| 15:33.13 | Fisker- | oh u vhaarr |
| 15:33.18 | Fisker- | merry FUCKING christmass yourself |
| 15:33.20 | Fisker- | or xmas |
| 15:33.26 | Fisker- | as it's called in futurama |
| 15:33.38 | vhaarr | xmas is what retards (i.e. americans) call it |
| 15:33.40 | thul | guess who I'm guarding tonight? |
| 15:33.58 | Pkekyo| | your mum? :O |
| 15:34.15 | thul | oracle :-P |
| 15:34.24 | Fisker- | QQ vhaarr :( |
| 15:34.37 | Fisker- | i'll AX you again |
| 15:34.38 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 15:34.56 | Pkekyo| | thul: elaborate? |
| 15:35.33 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, it's 16.30 and there's not even a hint of light outside |
| 15:36.23 | thul | oracle are having their christmas party |
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| 15:39.50 | Pkekyo| | so what classes is it worth going aldor with? :p |
| 15:39.55 | Pkekyo| | thul: who the hell is oracle? |
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| 15:45.00 | Pkekyo| | 2/2 BEM FPs down |
| 15:45.49 | cncfanatics | there are 3 FPS in BM |
| 15:45.51 | cncfanatics | as horde that is |
| 15:45.56 | cncfanatics | dunno for alliance idiots |
| 15:46.12 | QuantumDelta | *cries on cncfanatics's shoulder* |
| 15:46.30 | QuantumDelta | but yea 3 for alliance too |
| 15:47.14 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: where's the third? |
| 15:47.23 | Pkekyo| | FUCK |
| 15:47.26 | Pkekyo| | forgot mok'nathal |
| 15:47.46 | Pkekyo| | well, I'll grab that one omw back from NS instead >.< |
| 15:48.50 | kenlyric | alliance get 3 fp AND flinging gnomes |
| 15:49.00 | Paradox | anyone know how much rep a BT run gives |
| 15:49.11 | cncfanatics | 13337 rep Paradox |
| 15:50.02 | Pkekyo| | area 52 - down |
| 15:50.30 | durcyn | it goes pretty quick, Paradox, at least 3k per clear |
| 15:51.02 | Paradox | oh |
| 15:51.06 | Paradox | won't be exalted tonight then =( |
| 15:51.31 | durcyn | eh, most of the trinkets are total crap anyway |
| 15:52.08 | Pkekyo| | <---- won't ever see the inside of BT :< |
| 15:52.27 | Paradox | the shaman one is nice |
| 15:53.52 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57241 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: properly restore the inbox if we get disabled |
| 15:54.05 | Pkekyo| | what classes benefit from going aldor? |
| 15:55.56 | Josh_Borke | uh |
| 15:55.58 | Josh_Borke | look at the wiki page |
| 15:57.14 | Industrial | ~seen kaelten |
| 15:57.15 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 15h 8m 14s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 16:00.27 | ramoz | guys |
| 16:00.35 | ramoz | i need a tip on what i should make for dinner |
| 16:00.47 | Josh_Borke | ramen |
| 16:00.59 | ramoz | what? |
| 16:01.34 | [dRaCo] | japanese soup |
| 16:02.05 | [dRaCo] | with noodles |
| 16:02.53 | Pkekyo| | make a soft taco, then put it inside a hard taco |
| 16:02.59 | Pkekyo| | then eat |
| 16:03.01 | Pkekyo| | pewpew! |
| 16:04.22 | kenlyric | you should do it the other way around. |
| 16:04.40 | kenlyric | soft taco keeps the hard taco from losing pieces. |
| 16:05.39 | thul | seriously, people are selling lvl 40 greens for 40-50g |
| 16:05.42 | thul | (or trying to) at my ah |
| 16:05.45 | thul | wtf:p |
| 16:06.30 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: I forgot to mention a 2nd soft taco outside the hard taco |
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| 16:11.31 | CIA-8 | 03mokhtar * r57242 10GridDynamicZoneSwitch/GridDynamicZoneSwitch.toc: |
| 16:11.31 | CIA-8 | GridDynamicZoneSwitch: |
| 16:11.31 | CIA-8 | - Corrected a bug where Database was not saving |
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| 16:13.33 | thul | i like steve morse |
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| 16:26.09 | Elzarath | howdy ho-ho-ho, is there a wowace ver of PvpLog? |
| 16:27.03 | Elzarath | let me rephrase that, is PvpLog a version of something here on WoWAce |
| 16:27.05 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r57243 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 16:27.05 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:27.05 | CIA-8 | - Tradeskill:koKR update |
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| 16:35.08 | CIA-8 | 03jerry 07jerry * r57244 10Grid/Grid/ (GridLocale-enUS.lua GridRange.lua GridStatusRange.lua): |
| 16:35.08 | CIA-8 | Grid: (branch) |
| 16:35.08 | CIA-8 | _ Second attempt at optimisations of the GridRange module. |
| 16:35.08 | CIA-8 | _ Changed the GridStatusRange option to a list of valid ranges. |
| 16:35.23 | Josh_Borke | Elzarath: look on files.wowace.com |
| 16:36.46 | Elzarath | thnx |
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| 16:38.24 | Elzarath | kewl looks like my choices r Epeen and VanasKoS |
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| 16:57.25 | kneeki | Is there an Ace Library description listing somewhere? I'm having trouble finding a Lib which will help me with making buttons -_- |
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| 17:05.17 | Preystalker | morning all |
| 17:05.28 | Preystalker | or afternoon depending on your location |
| 17:05.45 | Osstia | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.46 | durcyn | ~ugt |
| 17:13.47 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 17:14.49 | Osstia | I was being lazy and saying good morning, but leaving the good off |
| 17:15.07 | Osstia | I can't use UGT |
| 17:15.32 | Osstia | cause I tend to not leave, and it screws with my biological clock if I have that long of days |
| 17:16.16 | bigzero | anyone know how you can get back to twilight ridge if you die there? |
| 17:17.07 | kneeki | Anyone know where I can find a description listing of Ace Librarys? |
| 17:17.20 | Osstia | bigzero is that the area in nagrand where the giant red dude walks?\ |
| 17:17.28 | durcyn | the TOC descriptions are displayed on files.wowace.com, kneeki |
| 17:18.02 | kneeki | Ah, I thought so. |
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| 17:22.31 | bigzero | Osstia, yeah :-( |
| 17:22.53 | Osstia | yes, you can walk up from down by where the elite bird is |
| 17:23.19 | Osstia | you can start climbing the mpountain, and then there is a cave that leads back there. IIRC the cave is visiable on the map |
| 17:23.33 | Osstia | I am not in game or i'd give you better directions |
| 17:23.56 | bigzero | i think i see it |
| 17:23.57 | bigzero | thanks |
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| 17:26.13 | Beutju | newest arkinv bugged? |
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| 17:27.24 | sb | hm Beutju: working for me |
| 17:27.29 | sb | whats you problem? |
| 17:28.44 | Beutju | hm dunno anymore; use old version now; perhaps I should have copied the error^^ |
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| 17:32.32 | [SW]Dodge | anyone knows if there a more textures for bars aviable somewhere? like the textures for castbar in quartz? |
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| 17:33.52 | durcyn | [SW]Dodge: yes, you want SharedMedia |
| 17:35.27 | [SW]Dodge | thank you |
| 17:35.42 | [SW]Dodge | uhm...sharedmedia or sharedmedia-2.0? |
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| 17:36.28 | durcyn | are you using SML or LSM-2? |
| 17:36.39 | Lothaer | G'Day |
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| 17:37.29 | [SW]Dodge | uhm i just have them as librarys from some other addons i think |
| 17:37.46 | [SW]Dodge | i dont hace sml/lsm-2 manually installed :x |
| 17:38.11 | durcyn | well, most everything should be using LSM-2 these days, so i'd pick up sharedmedia-2.0 |
| 17:38.21 | [SW]Dodge | ok thanks |
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| 17:38.29 | durcyn | either way, LSM-2 can use old SML resources |
| 17:39.03 | kneeki | Hmm, after checking the Addon Listing, I did not find any button making library, anyone know if there is one? |
| 17:39.13 | Lothaer | hey if i wanna add different functions for left and right click in fubar whats the code i have to use? |
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| 17:51.23 | vhaarr | I need a quick test of something, anyone with a non-english client around? |
| 17:52.05 | Killmore | anyone know another site like wowrankings.org ? |
| 17:52.24 | durcyn | Killmore: wowjutsu, wowmetrics |
| 17:52.27 | renchap | vhaarr: me |
| 17:52.41 | vhaarr | renchap: open the About dialog for any Ace2 addon, doesn't matter which one |
| 17:52.52 | vhaarr | renchap: and tell me what Category says |
| 17:52.55 | Killmore | durcyn: wowjutsu is not only for guild ? |
| 17:53.27 | durcyn | Killmore: wowmetrics then |
| 17:53.36 | Killmore | durcyn: wowrankings was the perfect site for people with high e-peen :P |
| 17:53.46 | renchap | for Baggins : "Catégorie : Inventory" (fr_FR) |
| 17:54.00 | vhaarr | renchap: is "Inventory" the correct french word? |
| 17:54.13 | renchap | no, it is Inventaire |
| 17:54.15 | vhaarr | shouldn't that be Inventaire? |
| 17:54.16 | vhaarr | right |
| 17:54.19 | vhaarr | renchap: thank you |
| 17:54.52 | Killmore | durcyn: they dont sort by ilvl :( |
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| 17:55.43 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r57245 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0: Fix category display in the about dialog, and uncomment some categories in zhCN (can't have empty entries here, it's not AceLocale instances). |
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| 17:55.51 | vhaarr | renchap: could you try again with that update? |
| 17:56.35 | durcyn | Killmore: what the hell do you want me to do, call the care police? |
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| 17:56.45 | renchap | vhaarr: waiting for .zip rebuilding |
| 17:57.00 | vhaarr | renchap: okay no rush, just ping me later when you have tested it |
| 17:57.04 | Killmore | durcyn: call your mom and have a diner with her :\ |
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| 17:58.55 | stavmar_ | is there a DPS spreadsheet for warlocks that people use to improve and measure their DPS? |
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| 17:59.25 | dylanm | EJ forums are a good bet |
| 18:00.24 | stavmar_ | yeah i have read through that and the spreadsheet they provide is nice, but not as nice as the other classes i see out there, and I was wondering if there was one i was missing? Just curious. |
| 18:00.54 | dylanm | What's wrong with the one on there? |
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| 18:01.35 | Codayus | By and large, if it isn't on EJ it doesn't exist... The flip side of that is, there's so MUCH info on EJ (and it's mostly so badly organized) that its easy to miss. There might be more than one spreadsheet. :-) |
| 18:02.01 | Codayus | One interesting tool is MaxDPS.com |
| 18:02.12 | Codayus | http://www.maxdps.com/warlock/dps.php |
| 18:02.45 | Codayus | They only do affliction locks right now, and the formulas used are mostly hidden, so no peer review. |
| 18:03.34 | kneeki | Anyone know of a button making lib? |
| 18:03.38 | Codayus | THe shadow priest page they have is accurate except for haste. I can't speak for other classes. Nice interface though. |
| 18:04.45 | chiper | heh http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20071219.jpg <-- been there |
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| 18:05.19 | NeoTron | BTW now when I can compare the end bosses |
| 18:05.55 | NeoTron | Vashj is good. Hard but doable. KAel'thas is also good now but is the worst of them all due to having trash. remove the trash respawn and kael would be more in line where he should be |
| 18:06.17 | Fisker- | Anyone know if the grid branch is usable btw? |
| 18:06.19 | Chompers | we gave up on vashj till the new year |
| 18:06.20 | durcyn | they're all fine, people just need to suck less |
| 18:06.33 | NeoTron | Illidan is a good end fight - long, multiple phases, varied, intense for 20+ minutes... and reasonbly predictable and somewhat forgiving |
| 18:06.36 | Codayus | Holidays screw with attendance. :-/ |
| 18:07.01 | NeoTron | Archimonde sucks. It's too sensitive to screwups to really be fun. If a couple of deaths didn't mean a wipe it would be more fun of a fight imho but right now it's too sensitive |
| 18:07.14 | Pkekyo| | is it possible to get fiery on a twohander? |
| 18:07.24 | Chompers | 12 people cancelled :O |
| 18:07.27 | Chompers | we must raid! |
| 18:07.30 | NeoTron | I really don't like Archimonde |
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| 18:07.52 | Fisker- | err NeoTron |
| 18:08.01 | NeoTron | specifically not that soul charges often means wipes (depends on which one and other circumstances but still) |
| 18:08.04 | Fisker- | i thought it was near impossible to kill vashj without everyone up |
| 18:08.10 | NeoTron | nah |
| 18:08.13 | NeoTron | or rather |
| 18:08.23 | NeoTron | with 7 healers/2 tanks you have some extra DPS |
| 18:08.25 | NeoTron | but |
| 18:08.30 | NeoTron | if someone dies you can battle res them |
| 18:08.37 | CIA-8 | 03xionglingfeng * r57246 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 18:08.37 | CIA-8 | ItemBonusLib-1.0: |
| 18:08.37 | CIA-8 | - Translate to zhCN.Still need check!!! |
| 18:08.37 | NeoTron | on archimonde if someone dies you wipe half the time |
| 18:08.53 | durcyn | the only reason archimonde is crap is that it's yet another fight that basically necessitates stacking shaman |
| 18:08.53 | Codayus | Now there's an interesting commit message. |
| 18:08.55 | NeoTron | on illidan if somone dies => battleres, on kael'thas if someone dies => battleres |
| 18:09.02 | NeoTron | that too |
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| 18:09.48 | Chompers | neo, you run a guild right? |
| 18:09.56 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:10.12 | Chompers | what would you do if someone told you a player could improve their dps with a better rotation |
| 18:10.20 | NeoTron | not the guild leader but the GM is just one of 3 council members |
| 18:10.20 | Chompers | but refused to use it or even care |
| 18:10.24 | renchap | Xuerian: i have a little bug with postal |
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| 18:11.01 | NeoTron | We have pretty strict performance requirements. if people refuse to do something to be acceptable at their task we don't let them raid |
| 18:11.06 | NeoTron | or rather give them low priority |
| 18:11.13 | NeoTron | after letting them know how and what to do |
| 18:11.17 | Codayus | Chompers: Depends on the guild... |
| 18:11.23 | Chompers | they're in mostly t5 level gear but do less dps than lesser geared people of the same class |
| 18:11.25 | NeoTron | we had a mage-wide initiative way back when |
| 18:11.31 | Chompers | and loot, what system do you use? |
| 18:11.32 | NeoTron | all mages literally sucked |
| 18:11.46 | NeoTron | Custom bidding DKP system |
| 18:12.19 | Chompers | i keep pushing for a loot council when we hit mh/bt |
| 18:12.31 | NeoTron | we used to be LC |
| 18:12.45 | NeoTron | it's IMHO hard and time consuming |
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| 18:12.48 | NeoTron | plus a lot of pressure |
| 18:13.00 | Chompers | two members who only raid 2 nights a week got our first pieces of t5 |
| 18:13.04 | NeoTron | switching to DKP was a great liberation |
| 18:13.13 | NeoTron | well |
| 18:13.22 | Chompers | epgp has some serious issues |
| 18:13.26 | NeoTron | then I guess ppl that raid more had gotten a lot of pieces |
| 18:13.43 | Chompers | yeah, they got the odd piece or two |
| 18:13.45 | NeoTron | http://adrenaline.eongames.com/dkp/viewnews.php |
| 18:13.47 | Codayus | We run fixed price zero sum. Might not always be fair, but it's so much less overhead/maintance than other systems... |
| 18:13.52 | Chompers | but its frustrating that the best bits go to them |
| 18:14.10 | Chompers | when our new tank is still wearing a green :O |
| 18:14.15 | NeoTron | main reason I dislike zero sum / fixed priced systems is that it typicall encourages DEing minor upgrades |
| 18:14.29 | NeoTron | I've seen items being DE'd that were clear upgrades because they were considered too expensive |
| 18:14.42 | Chompers | yeah, in epgp people are passing on minor upgrades because it lowers their priority |
| 18:14.46 | NeoTron | Chompers: Understood |
| 18:14.59 | NeoTron | but the flipside is if you use loot council and gear say the tank up... and the tank leaves |
| 18:15.00 | Chompers | a real shame |
| 18:15.08 | NeoTron | i've seen / heard of that happening more than once |
| 18:15.17 | Codayus | NeoTron: In my experience, that's an issue with bad pricing and guild culture - mostly the latter. We strongly encourage people to bid if they'd use it at all, which seems to work well. |
| 18:15.27 | Chompers | very true |
| 18:15.31 | NeoTron | bidding DKP means we give out a lot of cheap items (open bidding round 2 has no minimum cost0 |
| 18:15.43 | chiper | uhg, I loath DKP |
| 18:15.44 | NeoTron | but we also don't DE stuff people would use, even if just for one fight or even for farming |
| 18:15.47 | Codayus | I can't recall the last item that got DEed that would have been an upgrade for someone. |
| 18:16.05 | NeoTron | Codayus: except why bid on a small upgrade when the bit tier set piece upgrade is on the next boss? |
| 18:17.04 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 18:17.07 | NeoTron | Back in the naxx days I got the first DPS trash robe that dropped in Naxx on my (holy) priest |
| 18:17.10 | NeoTron | as a trial in a guild |
| 18:17.21 | NeoTron | because no one else wanted it |
| 18:17.24 | Chompers | we used dkp before and found that people would inflate the prices of gear so they'd get the next tier piece |
| 18:17.28 | Chompers | really lame |
| 18:17.33 | NeoTron | literally my first or second raid with that guild |
| 18:17.47 | Codayus | I'm not saying people are being smart to bid on stuff, I'm saying they DO, and since every does, fixed price zero sum works well for us. |
| 18:17.53 | NeoTron | with a proper bidding system DKP works fine |
| 18:18.17 | Codayus | chiper: Not at all. |
| 18:18.20 | NeoTron | thing is so many items go for minimum or below minimum DKP eve in t6 dungeons |
| 18:18.26 | Gngsk | your kind doesn't deserve epix! |
| 18:18.33 | Gngsk | take the welfare stuff liek the rest |
| 18:18.33 | NeoTron | not because ppl don't want to bid but because the items aren't really upgrades - just minor or sidegrades |
| 18:18.36 | Codayus | chiper: Depends on the DKP system. I could make one thats rigged against casuals, or one that's rigged towards them. |
| 18:18.57 | chiper | gng: then I guess the guild doesn't need raiders |
| 18:19.17 | NeoTron | chiper: well if a casual 1-2 times per week raider plays in a guild that raids 5 nights per week.. you really should only get leftover epics |
| 18:19.38 | chiper | we dont, it's why I like my guild |
| 18:20.36 | NeoTron | don't raid 5 times per week? |
| 18:20.38 | chiper | the hardcore raid mentality sickens me. I already have a job, I dont need another |
| 18:20.51 | Pkekyo| | bwahhahahaha, my lvl 44 mage just picked up the last one of the flightpaths in outland D= |
| 18:20.51 | NeoTron | if your guild raids twice a week and you raid twice a week... dkp works fine |
| 18:21.05 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: question now is.. wtf? |
| 18:21.12 | Fin | why does loot distribution have to be automated? does noone else think that automated systems are always, always going to have weaknesses in particular situations? |
| 18:21.25 | Codayus | Depending on the system, DKP will work fine even if you raid much less than your guild. |
| 18:21.50 | Codayus | Fin: Speed. Time. Stress. Corruption. The appearence/suspicion of curruption. |
| 18:21.50 | Fin | "depending on the system" ... "if", that's what I mean |
| 18:22.12 | Pkekyo| | NeoTronPkekyo|: question now is.. wtf? <----- what? :< |
| 18:22.22 | chiper | mind you, my guild isnt big on progression. right now we're sticking to kara and ZA |
| 18:22.24 | Chompers | bias is the reason we dont use a council, or so i'm told |
| 18:22.35 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: why the f* would you get all outlands FP's at level 44? |
| 18:22.37 | Fin | corruption can be avoided if loot council decisions aren't private, there's rarely any reason they should be |
| 18:22.46 | Fin | I mean |
| 18:22.55 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: got bored from leveling :) |
| 18:22.56 | NeoTron | chiper: my guild never used, nor considered using, DKP in 10 man dungeons |
| 18:22.56 | Fin | not the decisions themselves, obviously that's pretty clear |
| 18:22.58 | Fin | the reasons for them |
| 18:23.13 | Codayus | Some discussion...doesn't work well in public. |
| 18:23.19 | Fin | don't discuss it |
| 18:23.29 | Fin | just announce who's getting what and a short reason why |
| 18:23.32 | Codayus | And in any case, people can't know there wasn't some private discussion. |
| 18:23.46 | Fin | there should be a private discussion, but the results should be told to the guild |
| 18:23.52 | Fin | s/guild/raid/ |
| 18:23.57 | Fin | ooh, quick today purl |
| 18:24.20 | Codayus | chiper: DKP can work fine for casual guilds. |
| 18:24.36 | Codayus | Don't assume that guilds who don't work EXACTLY like yours don't, potentially, have the same goals. |
| 18:24.43 | Codayus | And those methods might work better than yours. |
| 18:24.56 | chiper | oh I dont, I can only go on experiences I've had in the past |
| 18:25.11 | Fin | that's why (I think) automated systems are always going to have weaknesses |
| 18:25.45 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: did you use a higher level char or just corpse running? |
| 18:25.46 | NeoTron | btw |
| 18:25.54 | chiper | pre-BC I was in several serious progression guilds, and the stress and frustration of the thing made me vow off of it. |
| 18:25.57 | Fin | it's not really that much effort for a few humans to decide who gets out of those who've requested a drop |
| 18:25.59 | Codayus | Fin: Ultimately, it's easy for people to say... "Gee, Rogue X sure has got a lot of drops recently...", and there's nothing you can do about it. An automated system may have bias inherent in the rules, but at least it's not because the GM has a crush on one of the rogues... |
| 18:26.01 | Chompers | hrm, what have i started... |
| 18:26.06 | NeoTron | best thing about killing illidan => 15 min cooldown "hearth" to Shadowmoon Valley :P |
| 18:26.09 | Fin | Codayus: they do that anyway |
| 18:26.15 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: [Carrot On A Stick] =D helped me run away from all mobs that didn't have a ridiculous meelee range |
| 18:26.43 | Codayus | Fin: In any case, the big issue is time. My guild moved away from open bididng to fixed price zero sum when TBC launched in part because it was just faster. And easier. |
| 18:26.50 | NeoTron | Chompers: DKP and loot distribution is liek... discussing politics and religion all at once |
| 18:26.59 | Fin | that's still points, and bidding |
| 18:27.04 | chiper | neo: agreed |
| 18:27.10 | Codayus | And, again, guild culture is VERY important. Much more so than the actual system, IMHO. |
| 18:27.10 | NeoTron | Codayus: ironic. we moved from LC to bid DKP for the same reason |
| 18:27.28 | Codayus | NeoTron: I think you'll find FPZS is even faster. :-) |
| 18:27.46 | NeoTron | except I hate fixed point systems |
| 18:27.56 | NeoTron | our bids literally take <1m for each boss |
| 18:28.01 | NeoTron | it's a single silent bid system |
| 18:28.23 | Chompers | yeah NeoTron, don't think i'll bring it up again |
| 18:28.28 | Codayus | Our guild culture is very casual, and not very loot focused. If people need it, they bid. Whomever wins...meh, it'll drop again. If they might use it as a side grade, they'll bid, then retract if anybody who really wants it bids. |
| 18:29.15 | Xuerian | renchap: I'm not the author of postal |
| 18:29.15 | Fin | I think, a loot council made up of a couple of officers and a couple of random normal members of the raid, plus someone who relays the decisions to the rest of the raid and the requests from the raid for drops, can adapt to specific situations that automated systems can't, and can easily avoid most of the common things people cite as disadvantages by using common sense |
| 18:29.22 | Codayus | Loot goes very quickly, very low stress, very casual. Because of our system? Or because of the guild culture? *shrug* |
| 18:30.27 | renchap | Xuerian: you added the menu near the open button :) |
| 18:30.40 | Xuerian | buh |
| 18:31.16 | alext | looks like I missed most of the convo but i vouch for loot council |
| 18:31.17 | alext | it r0x |
| 18:31.19 | renchap | with fr locale, the "Next" text overlap the menu button |
| 18:31.27 | Fin | it doesn't have to be slow - although it can be if it's a tricky siuation - which means it *should* be more considered, you can avoid people narrowing their eyes at decisions if you just announce (not for open discussion) why someone got whatever they got, and it's a lot faster than you'd think because it's not that hard to do |
| 18:31.37 | renchap | Maybe you can change the text from "Suivant" to "Suiv." |
| 18:31.38 | alext | after being part of a loot council system for a year, i would never go back to dkp |
| 18:32.02 | Xuerian | renchap: Read these two: "Xuerian" "Xinhuan" |
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| 18:32.08 | Xuerian | Pick which one you want and ping them agai |
| 18:32.13 | renchap | vhaarr: works |
| 18:32.13 | Xuerian | s/agai/again/ |
| 18:32.19 | renchap | oops |
| 18:32.21 | vhaarr | renchap: cool, thanks |
| 18:32.27 | Fin | dkp, suicide kings, whatever, they're well thought out and great for most situations, but everything I've ever seen with rules and stuff always ends up hiccupping at some situation or other - which ends up with people bitching about it |
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| 18:32.47 | deltron | epgp! |
| 18:32.55 | renchap | Xinhuan: ping |
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| 18:33.02 | chiper | I' |
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| 18:33.06 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:33.07 | CIA-8 | - Tradeskill: updated zhTW localization |
| 18:33.12 | chiper | I've never been around it, but I like the idea of a loot council |
| 18:33.26 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: No, I'm not changing my name >_o |
| 18:33.50 | Fin | most loot councils keep the reasons why someone got something secret though, which I think is silly because people just end up whispering to each other about who got what and why didn't such and such get it oh |
| 18:33.55 | Fin | -oh |
| 18:34.37 | chiper | I'd like to see blizzard improve the loot system. does master looter still have to go to every mob? |
| 18:34.39 | Fin | making up the loot council of two officers + two random normal raid members avoids corruption |
| 18:34.57 | deltron | loot council has potential for so much drama |
| 18:35.08 | Fin | where? |
| 18:35.11 | CIA-8 | 03mokhtar * r57248 10GridDynamicLayout/GridDynamicLayout.lua: |
| 18:35.11 | CIA-8 | GridDynamicLayout: |
| 18:35.11 | CIA-8 | - Corrected an error related to sorting when logging into a raid |
| 18:35.28 | Fin | if the loot council isn't a bunch of retards then the decisions are reasonable and make sense |
| 18:35.39 | chiper | it'd be nice if all loot above the threshold just got tabulated into a window on the ML's screen, and he could select from there where to send it |
| 18:35.50 | deltron | a really nice way to do loot is have a UI that the ML has, then you can assign it, without even looting the mob |
| 18:35.53 | chiper | the few times I've been ML I found it very tedius |
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| 18:36.04 | chiper | del: yes, exactly |
| 18:36.11 | deltron | at least people can tell you that there is ML loot on a mob now |
| 18:36.12 | chiper | then modders to could expand on that |
| 18:36.22 | chiper | -to |
| 18:36.30 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:36.31 | Hell-Razor | hey guys i am just trying to figure out some of the addons this guy has in his screenshot...http://www.ctscreens.net/9621 |
| 18:36.35 | deltron | I mean there's mods like xloot |
| 18:37.16 | Fin | I'd guess there are 10-15 addons in that screenshot, Hell-Razor |
| 18:37.21 | Fin | you're going to have to try a bit harder |
| 18:37.22 | Xuerian | It obviously doesn't handle anyone but the ML distributing loot, but it does make it simpler |
| 18:38.43 | deltron | Hell-Razor: unitframes are pitbull, bags are onebag I think, buffs are elkbuffbars, chat is prat, probably simpleminimap, along with fubar mods |
| 18:39.04 | Hell-Razor | deltron : wow thanks nice |
| 18:39.20 | deltron | oh timers are quartz |
| 18:39.25 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.28 | Fin | perhaps you won't have to try harder |
| 18:39.35 | vhaarr | bartender3 + cyCircled, I guess |
| 18:39.39 | deltron | yup |
| 18:39.40 | vhaarr | DrDamage |
| 18:39.53 | vhaarr | OneBag |
| 18:39.55 | chiper | hell: fyi, you need a space before the http to make the url easier to use :P |
| 18:40.05 | vhaarr | TrinketMenu |
| 18:40.07 | Hell-Razor | deltron : any idea whta the bar is? |
| 18:40.16 | deltron | which? |
| 18:40.20 | Hell-Razor | chiper woops |
| 18:40.23 | Hell-Razor | the one on the bottom |
| 18:40.26 | Fin | nice, I didn't know people were so helpful in this channel, it'll save me time next question I want to ask |
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| 18:40.43 | Xuerian | fin: we're a fickle bunch |
| 18:40.57 | chiper | hell: on the very bottom? or the button bar? |
| 18:40.57 | Fin | I got the impression we were mostly a bunch of arseholes, most of the time |
| 18:41.10 | Pkekyo| | meh, I'd wish you could unlearn cooking and fishing :< |
| 18:41.13 | Fin | lovable, roguish arseholes |
| 18:41.14 | Xuerian | fin: that's what makes it fun |
| 18:41.16 | Fin | naturally |
| 18:41.53 | chiper | Hell-Razor: very bottom is fubar, not sure what the button bar is. tho that looks like some kind of theorycraft numbers on it |
| 18:41.58 | deltron | oh more than likely it's bartender3 with one of the keybinding mods |
| 18:42.11 | Chompers | Dr.Damage perhaps |
| 18:42.14 | vhaarr | I just said |
| 18:42.17 | vhaarr | Hell-Razor: lern2read |
| 18:42.24 | vhaarr | Hell-Razor: BT2+cyCircled+DrDamage |
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| 18:42.28 | deltron | Hell-Razor: myBindings2 is good |
| 18:42.30 | vhaarr | BT3* |
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| 18:42.36 | Xuerian | And there's the lovable arsehole side :D |
| 18:43.03 | chiper | I might need to check out drdamage, didnt think there were any working theorycraft mods any more |
| 18:43.05 | Fin | but he still repeated himself so as to avoid Hell-Razor having to trouble himself reading up a few lines! |
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| 18:43.13 | vhaarr | Fin: no |
| 18:43.23 | vhaarr | I did it to point out that he's an idiot for not seeing it already |
| 18:43.31 | foobarzim | chiper; deltron; sorry bout that i got dc |
| 18:43.47 | Fin | you pointed out he was an idiot and *then* repeated yourself. I guess for emphasis, fair enough. |
| 18:43.49 | deltron | lol he got dc'd |
| 18:43.54 | vhaarr | Fin: right |
| 18:44.18 | Fin | still, the real winner here is mr lazy pants mclazy |
| 18:44.29 | Fisker- | mistletoe'd |
| 18:44.31 | foobarzim | bah i forgot how to bump myself off if it still things im on |
| 18:44.50 | Fin | what |
| 18:44.54 | Fin | que |
| 18:45.20 | vhaarr | cameltoe'd |
| 18:46.52 | Fin | ahhhhhhhh! |
| 18:46.54 | Fin | THINKS |
| 18:47.01 | Fin | right, OK, that makes much more sense now |
| 18:47.17 | Fin | if it still *thinks* you're on |
| 18:47.28 | Kivin | Someone care to enlighten me on how I can create a Font object which can be passed into Button:SetTextFontObject(...) without using an XML file? |
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| 18:47.50 | Xuerian | Kivin: Copy one of the default ones. |
| 18:48.06 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Xuerian |
| 18:48.06 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack Xuerian |
| 18:48.07 | Fin | hey Kalrock |
| 18:48.08 | Kivin | Xuerian: how do I do that? |
| 18:48.44 | Fin | MyFontObject = DefaultFontObject or { } |
| 18:48.54 | deltron | ~whaleslap Xuerian |
| 18:48.55 | purl | ACTION beats Xuerian upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:49.01 | Kivin | Fin: ? |
| 18:49.13 | Fin | I was just taking Xuerian's lead |
| 18:49.20 | Kivin | I want to use my own ttf file... I'm not interested in the <Font>s defined in FrameXML |
| 18:49.31 | Fin | use SharedMedia |
| 18:49.38 | Josh_Borke | CreateFont? |
| 18:49.46 | Fin | it's not an answer to your question specifically, but might be an answer to your problem |
| 18:49.51 | Kivin | CreateFont only appars to have one documented parameter: name |
| 18:49.55 | phyber | is there a working version of the IsTalentTrainer() function? I have the priest talent trainer in IF targetted and it returns nil. |
| 18:49.59 | phyber | AWESOME |
| 18:50.09 | Fin | they're not often right but you get a much cooler feeling when they are |
| 18:50.21 | Xuerian | http://wowwiki.com/Widget_API#FontInstance |
| 18:50.28 | Xuerian | read and be enlightened |
| 18:50.44 | Kivin | I can see the FontInstance wiki perfectly fine, thank you. I've read every word of it several times |
| 18:50.46 | Fin | plus "stabs in the dark" makes me think of sex without the light on |
| 18:51.02 | Xuerian | Then you would know that there is no magical font object |
| 18:51.05 | Xuerian | 0_o |
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| 18:51.15 | Josh_Borke | damn you Xuerian |
| 18:51.22 | Kivin | *sigh* |
| 18:51.32 | Xuerian | FINEH |
| 18:51.34 | Xuerian | You help him! |
| 18:51.46 | Fin | you can create one with CreateMagicObject() though |
| 18:51.59 | Fisker- | man i love the al'ar fight |
| 18:52.04 | Fisker- | i want to make sex with it |
| 18:52.09 | Chompers | :O |
| 18:52.09 | Fin | really! |
| 18:52.13 | foobarzim | chiper: whats the button bar |
| 18:52.15 | Josh_Borke | Kivin: did you try local font = CreateFont("Name"); local res = font:SetFont("MyPath", 3); if res == 1 then <stuff> end? |
| 18:52.15 | FireAllianceNX | Hey, I noticed that in the changelog "Festive Red Pant Suit" was taken out in Babble, but it actually does exists, who do I tell? |
| 18:52.20 | Chompers | fisker, transfer server and come do it with me |
| 18:52.25 | Chompers | al'ar, not my pooper |
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| 18:52.48 | Kivin | Josh_Borke: thank you for actually trying to be helpful. CreateFont() returns a table without any Set___ methods... it's a dead end. |
| 18:53.43 | Josh_Borke | Kivin: did you try local font = f:CreateFontString(); font:SetFont("MyPath", 3)? |
| 18:54.10 | Twist- | So I haven't written an addon since before TBC was released.. did event registration change drastically? I'm using the old <OnEvent>SomeFunction(event)</OnEvent> element in a hidden frame style, and my event handler is just never being called. |
| 18:54.13 | Kivin | Josh_Borke: Yes, but that doesn't get me where I need to be. I need a pointer that I can pass into button:SetWhatever... and it doesn't accept FontString objects |
| 18:54.25 | Xuerian | Kivin: obviously you didn't read the WoW Api page 0_o |
| 18:54.28 | Fin | hey don't bitch about people not being helpful, http://www.google.com/search?q=site:wowwiki.com+create+font+from+ttf would've been much quicker |
| 18:54.39 | Xuerian | Under Frame Management: CreateFont("name") - Dynamically create a font object |
| 18:54.43 | Kivin | Xuerian: A slightly more helpful explination, please. |
| 18:54.47 | Kivin | ok... |
| 18:55.14 | Josh_Borke | hm, so CreateFont doesn't create a new font for you? |
| 18:55.23 | Josh_Borke | i should say font intsance |
| 18:55.25 | Kivin | it creates a table with about a dozen keys |
| 18:55.45 | Kivin | but no methods for setting the font |
| 18:55.53 | Kivin | it's just a dud table |
| 18:56.42 | Kivin | So... I seem to be going in circles here. I take it the only way construct something that button:SetTextFontObject will like is in XML |
| 18:58.09 | Kivin | If I'm going to get cornered into using XML, I've got another issue: |
| 18:58.31 | Xuerian | so tell me again |
| 18:58.38 | Kivin | yes? |
| 18:58.49 | Xuerian | what's your problem following the api page here: http://wowwiki.com/API_Button_SetTextFontObject and then just button:SetFont()'ing? |
| 18:59.09 | Xuerian | Seeing as none of us have come up with a 'suitable' answer |
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| 19:00.28 | Kivin | Because things I've been told on the forums on two occasions have led me to believe that calling setFont over and over (i've got about two dozen buttons on my frame) is a bad thing |
| 19:00.54 | Kivin | I decided one <Font> object would be better |
| 19:01.26 | Xuerian | Why not just get the font object from one button, set the font on it, and re-apply it to every other frame? |
| 19:01.40 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r57249 10Mapster/GroupIcons.lua: Mapster: GroupIcons: Move back inactive check, don't color inactive units at all. |
| 19:01.46 | Kivin | button2:SetTextFontObject(button1:GetFont()) or something? |
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| 19:02.43 | Xuerian | No, local myfont = button1:GetFontObject() myFont:SetFont(...) button2:SetFontObject(myfont) |
| 19:03.07 | Kivin | Seems kind of roundabout, but that'd probably work. |
| 19:03.38 | Josh_Borke | that's the 'correct' solution |
| 19:03.43 | Josh_Borke | or create your own font object some how |
| 19:03.43 | Xuerian | Till someone is arsed to come up with a better answer, 'roundabout' + 'functional' > 'straightforward' + 'cornered into using' |
| 19:03.59 | Kivin | Truth |
| 19:04.09 | Kivin | I don't show buttons having a :GetFontObject method |
| 19:04.29 | Xuerian | Just so you know, too, I think what got me and anyone else who was on edge when you asked is that you had a "that's not good enough" attitude |
| 19:04.32 | Xuerian | anyway |
| 19:04.39 | Xuerian | button's fonstring probably has it |
| 19:04.51 | Xuerian | fontstring. otherwise, I'm talking out my ass :D |
| 19:05.02 | Kivin | Xuerian: Obviously i'm not going to respond well to people making fun of my issue |
| 19:05.35 | Xuerian | Kivin: of course, srys businus. |
| 19:05.43 | Xuerian | cause we're on the intarwebs |
| 19:06.00 | Xuerian | if you can't laugh at problems you're gonna be cursing a heck of a lot |
| 19:07.30 | Osstia | I curse a lot anywayz |
| 19:07.32 | Kivin | Excuse me while I trash this XML crap and revert it all back to the way I had it |
| 19:07.34 | Pkekyo| | damnit, I've 'lost' autobar :/ |
| 19:07.50 | Osstia | I am thinking I am going to take a class on doing it more creatively though |
| 19:08.07 | Xuerian | There's a few wow movies on it, ya chakkin' blit. |
| 19:08.25 | Josh_Borke | i have no idea what Xuerian just said |
| 19:08.49 | Xuerian | Josh_Borke: You're just in denial |
| 19:09.00 | Josh_Borke | about? |
| 19:09.10 | Xuerian | ... your... face o_0 |
| 19:09.27 | Xuerian | not entirely sure where that one came from 0_o |
| 19:09.39 | Kivin | Is there any way to get a texture drawn on the OVERLAY layer to appear higher on the z-order than a button simply anchored to the frame? Or would I have to draw the texture on a seperate frame with a higher frame level |
| 19:09.39 | Osstia | hehe |
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| 19:11.08 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r57250 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 19:11.08 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: Spell: |
| 19:11.08 | CIA-8 | - Added Chastise spell |
| 19:11.08 | CIA-8 | - Added some spell icons |
| 19:11.08 | CIA-8 | - big update for deDE/esES, everything is translated now |
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| 19:16.38 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | All I want for xmas is Ace3 Beta. |
| 19:16.40 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: ping? |
| 19:16.54 | phyber | *sigh at no bug forum in EU* |
| 19:16.56 | phyber | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2062247307&postId=20618317827&sid=1#2 |
| 19:17.03 | phyber | retards in my thread. /shoo |
| 19:17.22 | phyber | if someone can report that in US Interface forum, that would be nice., |
| 19:17.39 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen Ellipsis around lately? |
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| 19:21.26 | Elkano | hmm... is Prat able to remember language on a per channel basis? |
| 19:22.24 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57251 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 19:22.24 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 19:22.24 | CIA-8 | - Sunwell Isle update |
| 19:22.39 | Xuerian | Sunwell Isle? 0_o |
| 19:22.43 | Kivin | Indeed |
| 19:22.48 | Kivin | 2.4.0 addition |
| 19:23.00 | Kivin | wiki it |
| 19:23.17 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57252 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 19:23.17 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 19:23.17 | CIA-8 | - Shattered Sun Offensive added |
| 19:23.40 | Kivin | surprised he's got it rolled out already |
| 19:24.43 | Xuerian | Ahh... shattrath's little sister |
| 19:25.56 | Xuerian | Wow is reaching critical mass again, they're timing it right... Instances are stacking up like pre-bc to where entry->end would take too long for any sensible player |
| 19:26.08 | Xuerian | It's just a shame that all the new instances will join the old ones on the scrap heap |
| 19:26.23 | Kivin | Indeed |
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| 19:29.31 | technosinner | hi all, quick q? what's the deal with fubar 2.0 vs fubar 3.0? is v.3 official?? |
| 19:29.53 | Xuerian | 3.0 was a fairly seamless (to users) upgrade as ck forked ace into rock |
| 19:30.01 | Xuerian | no you can't quote me on saying forked |
| 19:30.05 | Xuerian | cause that'd be drama |
| 19:30.09 | Xuerian | <_< |
| 19:30.13 | Obelixprime | Can I fork you Xuerian? |
| 19:30.17 | Josh_Borke | that's not really accurate |
| 19:30.32 | Josh_Borke | 3.0 was a fairly seamless (to users) upgrade as ck forked fubar from ace to rock |
| 19:30.36 | Xuerian | Obelixprime: Only if you ask nicely |
| 19:30.39 | Josh_Borke | or far more understandable |
| 19:30.46 | technosinner | ok, so... |
| 19:30.54 | Xuerian | technosinner: yes official |
| 19:30.56 | Xuerian | yes use it |
| 19:30.58 | Xuerian | eol |
| 19:31.08 | technosinner | ok thanks :D |
| 19:31.24 | technosinner | i got wierd behaviors with it so I started worrying |
| 19:31.29 | durcyn | man, that's some serious framework drama, now you're accusing him of forking his own code |
| 19:31.38 | Xuerian | durcyn: srsly |
| 19:31.48 | technosinner | there's the drama! |
| 19:32.01 | Xuerian | durcyn: And I said you couldn't quote me =O |
| 19:32.08 | durcyn | Xuerian: eh? |
| 19:32.18 | Xuerian | lrn2rd |
| 19:32.19 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 19:32.32 | Josh_Borke | technosinner: you can use either one. FuBar2 is the Ace2 version of FuBar and is unofficial and not supported by ckknight where-as FuBar (3.0) is official and supported |
| 19:32.36 | durcyn | reading is for non-lazy people |
| 19:32.45 | Xuerian | bah |
| 19:33.00 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 19:33.18 | Stan_ | 2,4 will be awesome :O |
| 19:33.36 | Kivin | I'm more excited about 2.3.2, tbh |
| 19:33.39 | Xuerian | And that's why you're having slouken's babies |
| 19:34.08 | CIA-8 | 03jerry 07jerry * r57253 10Grid/Grid/ (GridRange.lua GridStatusRange.lua): Grid: (branch) add the missing usage and fix the initialization of the status. |
| 19:34.34 | technosinner | thanx much guys |
| 19:44.24 | Ozguli- | post me some fancy ui screenies, I need ideas |
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| 19:47.47 | chiper | mine's not that fancy |
| 19:48.18 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Ellipsis |
| 19:48.21 | purl | ellipsis is currently on #wowace, last said: 'brb'. |
| 19:48.40 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: pingalingdingdong? |
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| 20:09.50 | Fisker- | oh u Chompers |
| 20:10.12 | Fisker- | al'ar is almost my alltime hated boss now :( |
| 20:10.53 | NeoTron | Bugged al'ar was rad |
| 20:10.57 | NeoTron | meteor every 20-30s |
| 20:11.22 | Fisker- | aoe! |
| 20:11.42 | Fisker- | anyways we're getting like 17-18k damage on some tries |
| 20:11.47 | Fisker- | well one so far |
| 20:11.57 | Fisker- | not melt armor |
| 20:12.08 | Fisker- | but 2 simoultaneous attacks for 8-9k |
| 20:12.35 | NeoTron | parry? |
| 20:12.39 | nevcairiel | yeah probably |
| 20:12.56 | Kivin | parry makes me a sad panda |
| 20:13.07 | nevcairiel | get more expertise |
| 20:13.14 | Kivin | i'm a healer =/ |
| 20:13.17 | Fisker- | your mother :( |
| 20:13.19 | Fisker- | and same here |
| 20:14.02 | Kivin | doesn't help that every time we do prince, we seem to have at least one pickup who is someone's friend or whatever, and they seem to provoke parrys by not dpsing behind him |
| 20:14.04 | NeoTron | 5-man kael'thas! Win! |
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| 20:14.16 | Fisker- | no me NeoTron |
| 20:18.41 | Vulcanus | Danish Belfadin healer. What you get when you scrape the bottom clean out of the barrel. |
| 20:18.42 | Vulcanus | <3 |
| 20:19.03 | Fisker- | oh u |
| 20:19.12 | Vulcanus | yes me ;D |
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| 20:34.24 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen Ellipsis lately? |
| 20:37.46 | CIA-8 | 03arkayenro * r57254 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua VersionHistory.txt): |
| 20:37.46 | CIA-8 | ArkInventory: |
| 20:37.47 | CIA-8 | - 2.24c |
| 20:39.29 | FoxMcLeod | Hi, I'm planning to implement Waterfall support in my AddOn, could anyone point me to something like a complete example for an AceOption data table? |
| 20:42.03 | [SW]Dodge | mhm i misstyped a Tag in Pitbull->target->text->health and now i cant fix it :x |
| 20:42.13 | [SW]Dodge | the fields a gray |
| 20:42.47 | Josh_Borke | FoxMcLeod: look on www.wowace.com/wiki |
| 20:43.10 | [SW]Dodge | oh lol... now i can change it again ... |
| 20:43.33 | [SW]Dodge | weird Oo |
| 20:46.00 | duaiwe | "Look, I really need this job!" ".. but you're not a telepath." "I can learn!" |
| 20:46.16 | duaiwe | dammit. |
| 20:47.06 | Chompers | hrm |
| 20:47.10 | Chompers | raid cancelled |
| 20:47.19 | Chompers | 4 wipes on mag was enough i think |
| 20:47.55 | Osstia | !vs |
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| 20:58.00 | NightHawkTheSane | "Why is it always thin air? Never fat air, chubby air, mostly-fit-could-stand-to-lose-a-few-pounds air?" "I'm sorry sir, that's not my department." |
| 20:59.46 | Osstia | where is that from? |
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| 21:03.34 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps * r57255 10HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua: |
| 21:03.34 | CIA-8 | HealComm-2.0: |
| 21:03.34 | CIA-8 | - Forward compatibility with LibHealComm-3.0 (receive only) |
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| 21:07.50 | Josh_Borke | hm, healcomm author here? |
| 21:08.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Osstia: b5 |
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| 21:20.34 | chiper | NightHawkTheSane: ah, the telepath quote makes a lot more sense now |
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| 21:26.09 | cncfanatics | how does one add a line to the tooltip ? |
| 21:26.15 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r57256 10RaidCast/RaidCast_CommHandlers.lua: RaidCast: added HealComm listening code |
| 21:29.49 | dylanm | cncfanatics: GameTooltip:AddLine("HAI2U") |
| 21:30.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail for a-stray-cat: the ace options table of cooldowntimers2 is broken. please fix it. |
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| 21:36.25 | bigzero | ~seen a-stray-cat |
| 21:36.26 | purl | a-stray-cat <n=stray@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 29d 19h 46m 16s ago, saying: 'it should only change it ont he one you're on'. |
| 21:36.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 21:37.00 | bigzero | yup |
| 21:37.14 | bigzero | might want to fix it yourself |
| 21:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | cba |
| 21:37.30 | sag_ich_nicht | wouldn't know where to start |
| 21:37.33 | sag_ich_nicht | probably would have to start with |
| 21:37.34 | Orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: more like cbf |
| 21:38.21 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, that's the fun part...figuring it out |
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| 21:41.56 | bigzero | ~seen sorren |
| 21:42.00 | purl | bigzero: i haven't seen 'sorren' |
| 21:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: sorren=a-stray-cat |
| 21:42.42 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: and i don't have the time to do so |
| 21:42.49 | bigzero | sucks... |
| 21:42.54 | bigzero | i'll go play with it |
| 21:42.55 | Ellipsis | but you have plenty of time to whine about it here |
| 21:43.00 | Ellipsis | right sag_ich_nicht? :) |
| 21:43.13 | bigzero | though I don't know what the real problem is |
| 21:43.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis correct, because i alt+tab between here |
| 21:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and wiping on vashj |
| 21:43.42 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 21:46.14 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, what's the problem you're having with CDT2? |
| 21:46.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I think his problem might be that the ace options table is broken. |
| 21:46.39 | NightHawkTheSane | but.. that's really just a wild guess. |
| 21:46.43 | Ellipsis | bigzero, any attempt to configure it causes errors |
| 21:47.02 | Ellipsis | using AceConsole, Niagara/Rock/etc., anything |
| 21:47.04 | bigzero | <--- too lazy to start wow |
| 21:48.03 | Pkekyo| | oh hai Ellipsis |
| 21:48.13 | cncfanatics | configure it using the savedvars ? Ellipsis ? |
| 21:48.54 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: cause that's user friendly and headache free! |
| 21:48.59 | Ellipsis | I don't use it at all |
| 21:49.02 | Ellipsis | it's sag_ich_nicht's problem |
| 21:49.03 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: fancy sharing your cowtip line text config? screwed around a bit too much with mine, and it all went tits up |
| 21:49.08 | Ellipsis | I'm just describing it while he's too busy |
| 21:49.10 | Ellipsis | sure thing Pkekyo| |
| 21:49.21 | Pkekyo| | thanks :) |
| 21:49.56 | Ellipsis | I'm gonna pastey the SVs for ya, shouldn't be hard to copy/paste the necessary stuff in game :P |
| 21:50.31 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: fix it yourself :-P |
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| 21:52.45 | Pkekyo| | sure, I'll figure it out....I hope :< |
| 21:52.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:46] <bigzero> sag_ich_nicht, what's the problem you're having with CDT2? <--it's using the ace options table rong |
| 21:52.57 | Pkekyo| | s/:</:>/ |
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| 21:53.56 | Ellipsis | haha wow those tags could use some cleanup |
| 21:54.30 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: just check this pastey and the follow up: http://pastey.net/79155 |
| 21:57.23 | sag_ich_nicht | okay FUCK YOU FIREFOX |
| 21:58.18 | Pkekyo| | rofl sag |
| 21:58.28 | Pkekyo| | l2opera :p |
| 21:58.34 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 21:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 21:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | firefox 3 is good. |
| 21:59.11 | Kemayo | Orionshock: Technically speaking comms in Quixote is fairly disableable; it works fine without AceComm being present, I believe. |
| 21:59.16 | Kemayo | There's just not a toggle. |
| 22:00.24 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps * r57257 10/branches/LibHealComm-3.0/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:00.24 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 22:00.24 | CIA-8 | - Initial import |
| 22:01.46 | bigzero | ooo, firefox 3 is out? |
| 22:01.49 | bigzero | must try |
| 22:03.20 | bigzero | CDT2 code is kinda messy imo...using some weird globals that I can't find any initialization of |
| 22:04.25 | [Liquidor] | What would be the easiest way to create a frame like this http://i1.tinypic.com/6juqr7b.jpg --- Where all lines are dynamic/unknown beforehand. (Merely the same as the dropdowns of FuBar but as a frame) |
| 22:04.47 | HIghoS | FF3 isn't "out", just beta 2 was released. Much nicer then beta1. |
| 22:05.01 | HIghoS | Still too lazy to find out what's wrong with the JC issue on armory though, that is most annoying. |
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| 22:05.54 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps * r57258 10/branches/LibHealComm-3.0/ (. LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua Libs/): |
| 22:05.54 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 22:05.54 | CIA-8 | - Include externals and set up SVN properties |
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| 22:11.26 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r44684a9bd0 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (62_63_Zangarmarsh.lua 64_65_Terokkar.lua): Zangar done, onward to Terokkar! |
| 22:11.27 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rd73808be03 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_11_Elwynn_Forest.lua: |
| 22:11.27 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Human crap, actually leveling a stupid human, bleh... |
| 22:11.27 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Stupid Hogger quest has two stupid spaces in it aparently. GG Blue |
| 22:12.41 | chiper | ... |
| 22:13.44 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: any progress on that savedvariable? :> |
| 22:13.51 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: check your PM? |
| 22:14.09 | Pkekyo| | oh, sorry |
| 22:14.13 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 22:14.14 | Pkekyo| | never get PMs, so I never check :p |
| 22:14.20 | Ellipsis | let me know if you have any trouble |
| 22:14.23 | Pkekyo| | cheers |
| 22:14.31 | Pkekyo| | oh, I probably will :p |
| 22:15.02 | Pkekyo| | it's only 40 lines? |
| 22:15.13 | Ellipsis | that's just the line texts part, yeah |
| 22:15.19 | NeoTron | so I looked at a 2yo nef kill |
| 22:15.29 | NeoTron | 9k health on the MT :P |
| 22:15.37 | NeoTron | although I had 11.5k mana (priest) |
| 22:15.41 | NeoTron | but with a 2k mana flask |
| 22:15.43 | Pkekyo| | also, what's with all the quotemarks and numbers? |
| 22:16.12 | Ellipsis | that's just the SV format |
| 22:16.18 | Ellipsis | you copy the tags in between the quotes :P |
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| 22:16.46 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 22:16.51 | Pkekyo| | I suck at this ^^ |
| 22:18.38 | Pkekyo| | mine is a complete bloody mess, compared to that |
| 22:18.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:03] <bigzero> CDT2 code is kinda messy imo...using some weird globals that I can't find any initialization of <--see what i mean? :P |
| 22:19.05 | Pkekyo| | wish I knew what I was doing :) |
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| 22:20.00 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: got any experience with cowtip and guild/friend notes? |
| 22:20.02 | Osstia | I tried to get in a hogger raid the other day |
| 22:20.12 | Osstia | but I had dinged 2, and they wouldn't take me |
| 22:20.15 | Osstia | I was pissed |
| 22:20.17 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: what do you mean? |
| 22:20.25 | Osstia | almost re-rolled over the situation |
| 22:21.24 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: trying to get everything in the tooltip to show up on the right side, but guild/friendsnotes (from auldlangsyne, I guess) are showing up on the left for some reason |
| 22:21.45 | bigzero | wow...got CDT2 and it's like a virus...half of the addons are spitting out errors now |
| 22:21.53 | Ellipsis | nothing you can do about that |
| 22:22.00 | Ellipsis | stuff added externally isn't controlled by cowtip |
| 22:22.06 | Pkekyo| | doh |
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| 22:22.18 | Pkekyo| | so I better pop everything over to the left side? |
| 22:22.27 | Ellipsis | you can check if the other addon allows you to put it on the right |
| 22:22.29 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps * r57259 10/branches/VisualHeal/ (. Ace3/): |
| 22:22.29 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 22:22.29 | CIA-8 | - Ace3 branch |
| 22:22.30 | Ellipsis | but yeah, probably |
| 22:23.11 | Pkekyo| | the other addon doesn't have tooltip settings _at_all_ |
| 22:25.16 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57260 10VisualHeal/: |
| 22:25.16 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 22:25.16 | CIA-8 | - Pretty please, let me branch... |
| 22:25.35 | bigzero | is there a way to roll back updates on WAU? |
| 22:26.56 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57261 10VisualHeal/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:26.56 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 22:26.56 | CIA-8 | - Ace3 branch |
| 22:29.31 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: you've got mail...or PM, rather :) |
| 22:32.01 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: you have to talk to me if you want to book her :P |
| 22:32.20 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 22:32.22 | Ellipsis | you take too big a cut |
| 22:32.23 | Pkekyo| | really? gimme an offer I can't resist then |
| 22:33.01 | Stanzilla | 80k wow gold and she's yours |
| 22:33.14 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 22:33.26 | Pkekyo| | dream on Stanzilla |
| 22:33.32 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 22:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan |
| 22:35.29 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 22:35.30 | sag_ich_nicht | are you there |
| 22:35.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 22:35.31 | sag_ich_nicht | hi |
| 22:35.39 | sag_ich_nicht | omen is still bugging |
| 22:36.07 | Xinhuan | how |
| 22:36.13 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps * r57262 10VisualHeal/Libs/: |
| 22:36.13 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 22:36.13 | CIA-8 | - Delete unnecessary libraries, that were not meant for this version of VisualHeal. |
| 22:36.30 | durcyn | you sure do have a lot of very unique omen problems, sag. |
| 22:36.37 | sag_ich_nicht | http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6033/ueberfuelltge4.jpg http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6120/leohr0.jpg if you look at these screenshots, which is from a no-externals updated yesterday, omen is just not "getting" the target, not even "Global" |
| 22:36.37 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 22:36.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't |
| 22:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | that's from our MT. |
| 22:36.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't have that problem |
| 22:37.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not sure why |
| 22:38.31 | Xinhuan | i dn't see omen? |
| 22:38.37 | sag_ich_nicht | upper right corner. |
| 22:38.39 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57263 10VisualHeal/Libs/: |
| 22:38.39 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 22:38.39 | CIA-8 | - Added LibHealComm-3.0 as an external |
| 22:39.17 | Xinhuan | i don't see anything? |
| 22:39.45 | chiper | I think that's his point |
| 22:39.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: which is the problem, omen not giving ANY values. and if you check the title bar for Omen, it normal says "Omen - GLOBAL" or "Omen - mobname" |
| 22:39.57 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't do anything like that |
| 22:40.06 | Xinhuan | well, what i am supposed to do? |
| 22:40.06 | sag_ich_nicht | *normally |
| 22:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | since you tracked the error with the minimap, maybe you have an idea. if you don't, i'll wait for antiarc to come around :) |
| 22:42.01 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 22:42.19 | Xinhuan | i didn't update omen btw, or acecomm |
| 22:42.38 | Xinhuan | as far as i know, omen itself didn't get any commits, did it? |
| 22:43.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: threat-1.0 did |
| 22:43.56 | Xinhuan | what did it do |
| 22:44.31 | sag_ich_nicht | X - Change the target switch fudge factor from 2.0 to 3.0. This'll mean it'll take a bit longer to get a complete translation table, but we should hopefully have fewer conflicting translation errors. WTB 2.4 PST. |
| 22:44.51 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 22:44.55 | Xinhuan | no idea what that means |
| 22:47.22 | Xinhuan | but i'll suggest using an older version |
| 22:47.23 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, have you tried ClassTimers? |
| 22:47.58 | bigzero | ClassTimer* |
| 22:48.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i have. |
| 22:48.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: this behaviour already happened before that commit |
| 22:49.11 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, and you didn't like it? |
| 22:49.30 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: correct |
| 22:49.31 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 22:50.16 | bigzero | people are so picky these days... |
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| 22:52.36 | bigzero | I like how only half the options in CDT2 are localizable. some options even have names that are localizable, but not the descriptions... |
| 22:57.03 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: i like how it doesn't use babble for it's item localizations |
| 22:59.51 | thul | hmm |
| 22:59.56 | thul | Pkekyo|: is that dash-thing updated? :-P |
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| 23:02.49 | Pkekyo| | thul: doubt it....doesn't matter either way, it works! |
| 23:02.53 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 23:02.58 | thul | well, I just hid most of the stuff i seldom use now |
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| 23:05.46 | thul | bah, why cant bongos and bartender3 merge:P |
| 23:06.36 | NivFreak | what does bongos have over bartender? |
| 23:08.46 | Flexom | NivFreak: if i remember correctly, direct keybinding setup:) hover over the key and press the key you want to bind to it:) only thing i think i miss from bt :p |
| 23:09.55 | thul | NivFreak: much easier keybindings |
| 23:10.00 | thul | I really miss it |
| 23:10.11 | thul | i dunno bunghole how to keybind stance keys in bartender:p |
| 23:10.39 | nevcairiel | normal blizzy stance binds |
| 23:10.50 | nevcairiel | thats special action bar |
| 23:12.12 | nevcairiel | but meh, bt4 will have the stupid hover-binder |
| 23:12.50 | Tem | <3 hover binding |
| 23:12.59 | Tem | well done, Tuller |
| 23:13.27 | nevcairiel | he stole the idea from trinity |
| 23:13.28 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 23:13.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hover-binder? I hardly know her! |
| 23:13.59 | thul | stupid? |
| 23:14.02 | thul | <3 hover binder :-D |
| 23:15.31 | NightHawkTheSane | (and yes, i <3 it too, although I do not like being in binding mode, accidentally hovering over a button, and then trying to move or do something else and accidentally rebinding keys) |
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| 23:20.30 | buu | Binding action buttons is so passe. |
| 23:20.34 | buu | Real me bind without buttons. |
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| 23:21.57 | thul | hmm, is it possible to make parrot go incoming: text - number and outgoing: number - text |
| 23:22.00 | thul | for symmetry? :-P |
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| 23:23.07 | [SW]Dodge | you can set the "tag" ? |
| 23:23.31 | [SW]Dodge | example: (in rock) parrot->events->incoming->heals |
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| 23:23.51 | karlww | full room 0.O |
| 23:23.52 | [SW]Dodge | ([SKill] - [Name]) + [Amount] |
| 23:24.14 | [SW]Dodge | move the + [Amount] before the other and you r done :) |
| 23:25.02 | karlww | does anybody know if there is an addon that will give winamp controls? |
| 23:25.10 | thul | ah, thanks [SW]Dodge |
| 23:25.16 | [SW]Dodge | nope no addon for that :) |
| 23:25.44 | thul | hmm, sure? there is iTunes control:P |
| 23:25.53 | karlww | trouble is I cant run blink and use my global hotkeys all at once :P |
| 23:25.54 | [SW]Dodge | what? o.O |
| 23:26.10 | thul | iTunes remote |
| 23:26.16 | thul | or is that builtin in the mac version? :-P |
| 23:26.23 | thul | i have it atleast, can't remember to have installed anything like that though |
| 23:26.28 | [SW]Dodge | i think its build in lol^^ |
| 23:26.34 | thul | k |
| 23:26.34 | Keias | Yeah, it's part of the mac version |
| 23:26.42 | Keias | I just use Foobar2k with global hotkeys |
| 23:26.44 | Keias | while in WoW |
| 23:26.50 | [SW]Dodge | you are not able to access other programms throug wow :( |
| 23:27.10 | Stanzilla | Keias: same here..best solution |
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| 23:28.19 | jme | ~seen kadrahil |
| 23:28.21 | purl | kadrahil <i=webfreak@fallingsnow.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 1d 20h 30m 34s ago, saying: 'vern troyer as a gnome mage = rofl'. |
| 23:28.50 | karlww | oh there might be a way :P |
| 23:28.59 | jme | for some reason i think my linux host i was sshing in to irc from got reset, because i can't log in anymore :( |
| 23:29.04 | jme | and it looks like my irc session died there |
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| 23:32.00 | [SW]Dodge | where does itemsync saves the database?! ther is no itemsync.lua in my wtf directory :( |
| 23:32.56 | kenlyric | does it maybe pull the data out of the cache? |
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| 23:34.03 | LetheKai | Hi again, anyone available to help me out with Pitbull a little? |
| 23:34.38 | [SW]Dodge | dunno... i had 17k+ items in itemsync now i made an new interface and all items are gone :x |
| 23:35.12 | [SW]Dodge | and in my backup of the old ui is no itemsync.lua also in wtf |
| 23:37.58 | thul | My ui rocks now Pkekyo| |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r5fc9011030 10./ (7 files): |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Fixing issues when guide is completed and no followup to load |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Guides now default back to "no guide loaded" guide, which cannot be completed |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Clicking the status frame in "No Guide" will open the guide list instead of the objective list |
| 23:38.06 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Guide list properly shows complete guides as 100% |
| 23:38.09 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Shift-clicking a guide in the list will wipe it's completion |
| 23:39.35 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57264 10/branches/CooldownTimers2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:39.35 | CIA-8 | CoolDownTimers2: |
| 23:39.35 | CIA-8 | - patch to get rid of some errors |
| 23:39.50 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, try that |
| 23:40.07 | bigzero | it's just the Options.lua file |
| 23:40.38 | Pkekyo| | thulMy ui rocks now Pkekyo| <---- prove it |
| 23:40.39 | bigzero | all it does is get rid of the errors, if there's some functionality missing...well, too bad then |
| 23:41.02 | Ellipsis | I second Pkekyo|'s comment |
| 23:41.27 | Pkekyo| | after seeing a couple of your UIs, I don't believe it 'till I see it :p |
| 23:41.58 | khangg | ss? |
| 23:42.00 | khangg | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.58 | Pkekyo| | seriously, I've somehow LOST 99% of my autobar :/ |
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| 23:46.11 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, wait :-P |
| 23:46.47 | thul | just get an in-combat one |
| 23:47.42 | bigzero | Woot!! they finally came up with a fix to the holiday recipes/patterns. After rolling restarts (Tuesday) you can buy the recipes from the vendor.http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3466327626&sid=1&pageNo=15 |
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| 23:49.18 | NivFreak | wow |
| 23:49.21 | NivFreak | questhelper really is great |
| 23:49.21 | Pkekyo| | meh...popped 3.5 levels on my mage tonight....bored as hell >.< |
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| 23:51.01 | thul | http://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/current_ui5.png |
| 23:51.02 | thul | so sexy :-P |
| 23:51.17 | Pkekyo| | too many fucking textures and colors mixed |
| 23:51.30 | Pkekyo| | it's worse than the proverbs of the barkeep in boondock saints :p |
| 23:51.33 | thul | pffft |
| 23:51.43 | Pkekyo| | also: l2hud |
| 23:51.51 | thul | hud is gross. |
| 23:51.57 | thul | i tried using a hud |
| 23:51.58 | thul | gross. |
| 23:52.00 | thul | :-( |
| 23:52.06 | Pkekyo| | also: minimap buttons is a fucking sacrilidge ever since fubar came |
| 23:52.10 | thul | and well, the only texture i have is the top-bar. |
| 23:52.11 | thul | pffft |
| 23:52.14 | thul | i like minimap buttons :-) |
| 23:52.21 | thul | I don't like repeating myself:P |
| 23:52.29 | Ellipsis | thul, you are improving, but your love of randomly scattered minimap buttons still makes me cry |
| 23:52.58 | Pkekyo| | thul: you have absolute arseloads of textures |
| 23:54.04 | Pkekyo| | unitframes, whatever that red/green thing on the bottom of your screen is (no, not the damagemeters), the tooltip, the debuff-timer, the buff timer, grid, quartz, and whatever's under quartz all got different textures |
| 23:54.07 | CIA-8 | 03cossy * r57265 10Bidder_ZSumAuction/ (. Bidder_ZSumAuction.toc localization.deDE.lua): |
| 23:54.07 | CIA-8 | Bidder_ZSumAuction: |
| 23:54.07 | CIA-8 | - deDE localization added |
| 23:54.07 | CIA-8 | - toc update |
| 23:54.11 | Pkekyo| | consistency ftw (spelling?) |
| 23:54.47 | Pkekyo| | sorry, but I can't take look at an UI without my designereyes going rampant :p |
| 23:54.50 | buu | It's interesting how many people have their action buttons in the dead middle and a chat window on the left. |
| 23:54.50 | thul | Pkekyo|: they are all flat :-) |
| 23:54.50 | Ellipsis | <3 Pkekyo| |
| 23:54.52 | thul | (aka: non-texturized) |
| 23:54.58 | thul | the only one with texture is the top bar :-P |
| 23:54.58 | buu | Pkekyo|: I demand.. design advice. |
| 23:55.07 | Ellipsis | thul: no, there are definitely several different bar textures going on |
| 23:55.27 | thul | if you say "gradients" or "colors" |
| 23:55.27 | dylanm | Another thul masterwork? |
| 23:55.28 | thul | I'm in |
| 23:55.35 | thul | but textures? :-P l2dict.org. |
| 23:56.08 | Pkekyo| | I'll grant you that your unitframes and buff timers use the same texture |
| 23:56.24 | CIA-8 | 03cossy * r57266 10Bidder/ (. Bidder.toc Localization/deDE.lua): |
| 23:56.24 | CIA-8 | Bidder: |
| 23:56.24 | CIA-8 | - updated deDE localisation |
| 23:56.24 | CIA-8 | - toc updated |
| 23:56.28 | Ellipsis | I think my next challenge for myself is going to be creating a usable UI entirely out of existing addons without modifying any lua |
| 23:56.32 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 23:56.39 | thul | I still think that you are thinking about shadowing areas Pkekyo| :-P |
| 23:57.20 | Pkekyo| | a shade can not exist without a change in the surface's elevation, hence, it's textured |
| 23:57.54 | Pkekyo| | granted, you can't physicly grab your bloody unitframes |
| 23:58.01 | thul | well.. |
| 23:58.16 | thul | the thing is, if I lit a tree evenly from all sides, it WILL look differently than if I light it from one side |
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| 23:58.21 | thul | but the texture has not changed.. ;-) |
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| 23:58.40 | Pkekyo| | but for those shades to appear irl, the surfaces would have to be textured "the characteristic appearance of a surface" |
