| 00:00.56 | Xinhuan | Orionshock: the more steps there are, the worse it gets, since at any stage, either party can disconnect ;p |
| 00:01.10 | Orionshock | true... |
| 00:01.27 | Orionshock | not sure i care tho, when they log back in the sequence can begin again w/o any problem. |
| 00:01.33 | Xinhuan | assuming you have a sequence, that can't be broken in order at any stage that is |
| 00:02.30 | Orionshock | my question is that if acecomm find's it'self with missing segments of data does it discard the whole thing? |
| 00:02.40 | SqueeG | learn rails =p |
| 00:02.43 | SqueeG | err |
| 00:02.44 | SqueeG | ruby |
| 00:02.48 | SqueeG | ... on rails xD |
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| 00:02.50 | thul | ruby ON rails |
| 00:02.52 | Pkekyo| | Graawr: learn me php...asap! :p |
| 00:02.53 | thul | but i disprove |
| 00:02.53 | thul | of that |
| 00:03.00 | thul | php too |
| 00:03.03 | thul | python > * |
| 00:03.06 | Xinhuan | i believe you can get rid of most of those steps |
| 00:03.15 | Xinhuan | L RequestCurrentVersion() |
| 00:03.22 | Xinhuan | the remote client should either reply |
| 00:03.31 | Pkekyo| | s/learn/teach/ |
| 00:03.35 | Xinhuan | with the updated info, or nothing. |
| 00:03.52 | Xinhuan | simplest and easy |
| 00:04.17 | Graawr | Hehe |
| 00:04.18 | Graawr | :] |
| 00:04.20 | thul | why doesen't bloodthirst healing scale with weapon speed? :-( |
| 00:04.30 | Orionshock | ...and if several clients are out of date then they are firing their own sequence.... |
| 00:04.30 | Xinhuan | i.e the reply should contain either "no updates is necessary" or "here is the updated data" |
| 00:04.46 | Graawr | php is server based scripting engine that process something before it sends the output to your html browser |
| 00:04.52 | Graawr | functions are found at www.php.net |
| 00:04.53 | Graawr | Thats it! |
| 00:04.55 | Xinhuan | you're just complicating it |
| 00:04.56 | Graawr | You can now do php! |
| 00:05.36 | Orionshock | ... what i want to avoid if i can is when 2 or 3 players login at roughly the same time and all 3 of them need new data from the same person, and the addon channel just goes bezerk |
| 00:05.54 | Xinhuan | you don't have to use the addon channel |
| 00:05.59 | Xinhuan | you can use addon whispers |
| 00:06.06 | Pkekyo| | Graawr: damn you, simplistic bastard :p |
| 00:06.22 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: the channel or the addon |
| 00:06.43 | Xinhuan | nvm |
| 00:07.39 | Xinhuan | when you send a "request version" do this in the guild addon channel |
| 00:07.55 | thul | homemade beer for xmas |
| 00:07.55 | thul | :-D |
| 00:07.55 | Xinhuan | every client online, then replies via addon whisper channel |
| 00:08.16 | Xinhuan | your client then receives all these, and chooses one person to get updates from, using whisper addon channel |
| 00:08.28 | Xinhuan | who also replies in whispers |
| 00:08.33 | Orionshock | ... |
| 00:08.36 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 00:08.39 | Pkekyo| | thul: made from what?: ) |
| 00:09.11 | thul | Pkekyo|: water, gjær, lemon, ginger, sugar etc |
| 00:09.12 | Orionshock | ya.. i didn't want to deal with race conditions like that so i decided that this addon is not going to do sync "offline" clients, just their own. |
| 00:09.13 | thul | Ambush: The damage multiplier on this ability has been increased from 250% to 275%. <- YEHAW |
| 00:09.16 | thul | i love you |
| 00:09.22 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 00:09.34 | Xinhuan | how is there race conditions? |
| 00:09.53 | Xinhuan | you simply look at everyone's version, and choose one of them to ask for updates |
| 00:10.00 | Orionshock | you login, your out of date, 4 others have updated versions all the same, and all 4 start spamming at the same time.. |
| 00:10.07 | SqueeG | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH |
| 00:10.11 | Xinhuan | its more like |
| 00:10.13 | SqueeG | it needed to be said |
| 00:10.39 | Xinhuan | you login, your out of date, 4 others reply they have the latest version - you choose one of these 4 to ask updates from |
| 00:10.43 | thul | where is AH in Booty bay? |
| 00:10.47 | Xinhuan | not ask all 4 |
| 00:11.39 | Gngsk | thul, at the bank, it consists of a few npcs standing on boxes and crates |
| 00:11.50 | thul | k |
| 00:11.51 | thul | thanks |
| 00:11.56 | Pkekyo| | thul: sounds like fun...share :) |
| 00:11.57 | Xinhuan | the version query is public, the update query is private |
| 00:12.03 | Orionshock | ya ya, VerReq => Im new, Log to table.... wait 30 seconds, sort table by version, lookup nix all but top, look up who has that one, sort , ask #1 |
| 00:12.46 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 00:12.53 | Pkekyo| | kinda scares me...I haven't been drunk since this spring, when my liver got screwed up :/ |
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| 00:13.41 | smoke_ | what file would i edit to remove some of the skills that trigger witchhunt? |
| 00:13.48 | smoke_ | ive looked thru most of them but can't seem to find anything |
| 00:14.05 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, it tastes lovely |
| 00:14.11 | Lukian | smoke_, it doesn't filter |
| 00:14.11 | Pkekyo| | share! |
| 00:14.48 | smoke_ | yeah i know that, but theres no way to edit the code itself to remove some of the triggers? or is it trigger based thru combat log parsing so it can't be changed? |
| 00:15.20 | Lukian | the latter, but you could probably add a filter system to it |
| 00:17.07 | Stanzilla | . |
| 00:17.13 | Gngsk | smoke_, witchhunt.lua, line 341 defines the Burn() function, you can prolly filter on the effect variable |
| 00:18.17 | Pkekyo| | dear lord...starship troopers 2 is just too awful :< |
| 00:20.11 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, my swiss army knife is falling apart :< |
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| 00:23.06 | Aeyan | Were you stabbing the TV with it? |
| 00:23.12 | shesaws_ | quick question, does anyone know any addons for priest's Mind Control? |
| 00:23.34 | Pkekyo| | Aeyan: I don't own a TV, and no...was juggling with it, dropped it on the floor a few times too many |
| 00:23.35 | Aeyan | What kind of help with Mind Control? |
| 00:24.30 | shesaws_ | I imagine something that would remember what spells the particular mob has and somehow displays that info in mob tooltip |
| 00:24.51 | shesaws_ | but a simple data miner for MC would be awesome too |
| 00:25.21 | Aeyan | Ah |
| 00:25.25 | Aeyan | No, there's nothing like that |
| 00:25.30 | shesaws_ | ty |
| 00:25.35 | Aeyan | Maybe something you could suggest for MobNotes |
| 00:26.14 | shesaws_ | first I've heard of MobNotes, but is it something that would remember a mob is sheepable/trappable/etc? |
| 00:26.30 | Pkekyo| | mobnotes is added by users |
| 00:26.36 | Pkekyo| | - if memory serves |
| 00:26.56 | Aeyan | Yeah, the notes are hand added |
| 00:27.06 | shesaws_ | I was thinking more like pulling some pet bar code from PitBull |
| 00:29.08 | Pkekyo| | not in existance atm |
| 00:29.15 | Pkekyo| | - afaik |
| 00:37.17 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone know that any addon that makes Ace2 "eat" alot of mem? |
| 00:39.42 | Xinhuan | i can write one that makes it eat 50 mb of ram in 5 lines |
| 00:39.48 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 00:39.48 | haste | hf disabling! |
| 00:40.00 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
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| 00:40.30 | Nickenyfiken | Well it feels a bit odd that Ace2 eat ~25 MiB after 1 hour and it can't be garbaged |
| 00:41.59 | Pkekyo| | it's perfectly normal |
| 00:42.24 | Nickenyfiken | It is? |
| 00:42.58 | Kivin | My UI as a whole requires 56 MB; It wouldn't surprise me if my collective Ace2 addons were using more than 25 of that |
| 00:43.01 | Pkekyo| | dunno, who gives a shit about 25 MiB when you've got 4GB? |
| 00:43.02 | Antiarc | 25mb after an hour seems unusual |
| 00:43.08 | Nickenyfiken | I don't remember how far back when usually i could garbage collect to get back to about the same MiB that my UI started with after login |
| 00:43.10 | Antiarc | Assessment? Recount? |
| 00:43.15 | Antiarc | Do you run disembedded? |
| 00:43.27 | Nickenyfiken | I have Recount yes |
| 00:43.31 | Antiarc | That may be it |
| 00:43.32 | Nickenyfiken | Disembedded |
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| 00:46.19 | Graawr | disembedded? |
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| 00:47.17 | Pkekyo| | not embedded |
| 00:47.23 | Graawr | Har har har |
| 00:47.26 | Graawr | embedded? |
| 00:47.42 | Pkekyo| | har, har and dideli-di, a pirate's life is good for me |
| 00:47.47 | Pkekyo| | - or something like that |
| 00:48.05 | Pkekyo| | embedded: inserted as an integral part of a surrounding whole |
| 00:48.25 | Graawr | :) |
| 00:48.45 | Pkekyo| | no idea exactly what it is in ace2-context |
| 00:50.03 | Megalon | Pkekyo|: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI :P |
| 00:50.36 | Pkekyo| | ooooooooooold |
| 00:50.45 | Pkekyo| | and severely paedophile |
| 00:53.27 | Pkekyo| | can't believe you stalled me with that whilst watching starship troopers |
| 00:53.29 | Pkekyo| | bastard |
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| 00:56.54 | Pkekyo| | that brain bug is fucking disgusting |
| 00:58.17 | Pkekyo| | looks like a cunt with a fang, surrounded by eyes O.o |
| 00:59.09 | thul | hmm |
| 00:59.10 | thul | nice |
| 00:59.28 | thul | Rune Fossum sent an invitation using ATTACK!: |
| 00:59.29 | thul | Attack! is a fun Risk-like game that we can play together live. Click below and see if you can challenge me to take over the world! |
| 00:59.32 | thul | I hate that |
| 00:59.34 | thul | wtf |
| 00:59.43 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 01:00.23 | Pkekyo| | I just love getting "invited" to stuff I don't even fucking know what is by people I don't know who is |
| 01:01.20 | Pkekyo| | the thought of a cunt with fangs scares me :/ |
| 01:01.24 | thul | :-( |
| 01:01.29 | Graawr | what about the, OMG WE WILL SHUT DOWN MSN UNLESS U SEND 10 USD to THIS BANK ACCOUNT |
| 01:01.38 | Pkekyo| | hahah that's too good |
| 01:01.43 | Pkekyo| | people actually believe that crap |
| 01:02.04 | CIA-8 | 03jncl * r57390 10Skinner/AddonSkins/CowTip.lua: Skinner: BugFix for CowTip skin |
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| 01:11.00 | Pkekyo| | I fucking hate this time of year....I'm always injured at christmastime >.< |
| 01:12.12 | Graawr | wtb summer |
| 01:12.51 | Pkekyo| | nah |
| 01:13.00 | Pkekyo| | wtb winter with WINTER WEATHER |
| 01:13.05 | thul | wts healthy body |
| 01:13.06 | thul | :-P |
| 01:13.31 | Pkekyo| | piece of shit global warming...haven't been a proper snowboard season for years |
| 01:13.34 | [SW]Dodge | wts -8C |
| 01:13.48 | [SW]Dodge | wtb +25-30C |
| 01:13.51 | Pkekyo| | -8C kinda sucks for snow tbh |
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| 01:14.37 | Pkekyo| | here it's about +8C and rains like a motherfucker all year... |
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| 01:16.36 | esteth | Anyone know of a bar mod that can remap keybindings as well as button actions on a modifier key? |
| 01:18.01 | Pkekyo| | bartender3 can NOT, to my experience |
| 01:18.19 | Pkekyo| | thul: so when you shipping those new knees of mine? |
| 01:19.25 | chexsum | theres room for a keybinding mod imho |
| 01:20.16 | Pkekyo| | litterature is soooo much better when not localized |
| 01:20.49 | esteth | That would also work. If there's a mod that lets me change my keybindings on the fly on the modifier keys i could use that with bartender3 :) |
| 01:20.51 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, when do you need them? :-P |
| 01:21.35 | Kivin | esteth: I believe TrinityBars2 Can |
| 01:21.46 | Pkekyo| | thul: about seven-eight years ago |
| 01:21.57 | esteth | Kivin: Thanks :) |
| 01:22.01 | Kivin | esteth: At least, I know my [nomod] keybindings don't carry over to my [mod:___] bars |
| 01:23.38 | thul | my knees rock |
| 01:23.46 | smoke_ | what would be passed to the effect variable in theburn function in witchhunt? like the combat log text? |
| 01:24.11 | smoke_ | does LUA have switch functionality? |
| 01:24.11 | krka | smoke_: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 01:24.39 | dylanm | It does not, no. |
| 01:25.20 | Pkekyo| | thul: smashed mine up pretty bad in seventh grade |
| 01:25.23 | smoke_ | ok, so if im doign chain if statements, do umm, say i want to filter soemthing i could do something like |
| 01:25.25 | thul | hmm, not good |
| 01:25.27 | Pkekyo| | been haunting me ever since |
| 01:25.49 | dylanm | You can chain if statements, use keys of a table... |
| 01:25.55 | Pkekyo| | had to stop playing football...meh |
| 01:25.58 | smoke_ | if effect == "cloak of shadows" then return end |
| 01:26.10 | smoke_ | and that would theoretically filter our claok of shadows |
| 01:26.30 | smoke_ | but, is that how the syntax is suppose to be? is effect the "combat log text" that is passed ? |
| 01:27.17 | shesaws__ | how about an array 'cloak of shadows' = function() begin end |
| 01:27.20 | dylanm | I have no idea what you're talking about tbh |
| 01:27.28 | dylanm | What are you doing? |
| 01:27.32 | smoke_ | sorry |
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| 01:27.42 | smoke_ | im trying to make witchhunt display only certain spells casts |
| 01:27.54 | smoke_ | basically filter function, i was told to check the burn function , and the variable effect |
| 01:28.01 | Pkekyo| | thul: pm :) |
| 01:28.14 | smoke_ | but i dont know what exactly gets passed to the effect arguemnet in the burn function |
| 01:28.24 | smoke_ | would it be like a piece of combat log text? |
| 01:28.37 | smoke_ | or would it be something else to reference to the spell casted? |
| 01:31.28 | dylanm | It's passing info.abilityName from something that Parser-3.0 spits back |
| 01:31.34 | dylanm | so that sounds right. |
| 01:31.40 | dylanm | I don't like to go anywhere near Parser. |
| 01:32.15 | smoke_ | kk |
| 01:33.19 | dylanm | Just try what you described earlier. It sounds like a good idea. |
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| 01:44.37 | Orionshock | the hell? |
| 01:45.18 | Orionshock | type(data) == 'table' => true; for k,v in pairs(data) do == Error 'data' is a string value? |
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| 01:47.44 | Pkekyo| | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111302021&postId=21110622043&sid=1 ftw |
| 01:49.37 | esteth | Hmm. i'm using bartender3 atm, and none of my modified shortcuts work. However, if i use spellbinder to bind the action on that button to the buttons modified binding, then remove the spellbinder binding, the button works with modifier as it should. This seems really strange. Anyone know what's going on? |
| 01:50.19 | Pkekyo| | esteth: bugs are going on |
| 01:51.14 | esteth | Perhaps i'll switch to bongos for the time being and see if that has the same problem |
| 01:52.02 | Pkekyo| | "if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it" |
| 01:52.07 | Pkekyo| | you said it works now, no? |
| 01:52.23 | Pkekyo| | though it "seems really strange", there's no reason to raplce the addon, since it actually works |
| 01:52.54 | esteth | i should mention that it only works until the next time the ui gets reloaded, and i have 10 buttons with 3 states each to bind and unbind every time :P |
| 01:53.02 | smoke_ | != is not right? |
| 01:53.02 | smoke_ | in lua? |
| 01:53.12 | Ellipsis` | ~= |
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| 01:53.17 | smoke_ | thx |
| 01:53.37 | Pkekyo| | esteth: gogo bongos then |
| 01:53.54 | Pkekyo| | wtb fully functional and unharmed body plx |
| 01:54.19 | esteth | Pkekyo|: what's wrong with yours? :( |
| 01:54.47 | Pkekyo| | knees are wrecked, ribs possibly fractured, and my stomach's badly bruised :p |
| 01:54.57 | esteth | owch >_< |
| 01:55.47 | Pkekyo| | worst thing is; dunno what the flying fuck've happened to ribs and stomach |
| 01:55.55 | esteth | If everyone in the channel donates 1 rib, then that's that problem solved |
| 01:56.21 | Pkekyo| | I don't need several hundred ribs tbh :p |
| 01:56.28 | Pkekyo| | could do with two or three |
| 01:57.35 | esteth | you could put them in a jar and sell them to tourists on street corners? |
| 01:57.50 | Pkekyo| | bwahahah |
| 01:58.02 | esteth | would maybe make a good isntrument too. If you got a scale of different sizes and a long piece of string you could make a xylophone :) |
| 01:58.08 | Pkekyo| | well, those bloody germans lack taste anyways...it just might work :p |
| 01:58.32 | Pkekyo| | esteth: a xylophone made out of human parts would prolly get me arrested |
| 01:58.46 | esteth | who says the police need to know? ;) |
| 02:00.12 | Pkekyo| | I says in small towns, cops always find out |
| 02:01.07 | esteth | If you surround your house with a wall of ribs, no-one will be able to see the xylophone. Problem solved! |
| 02:01.27 | basslingo | anyone here have experience with HealComm-2.0 |
| 02:01.39 | Pkekyo| | lmfao esteth |
| 02:01.43 | Pkekyo| | basslingo: no, not really |
| 02:01.54 | Pkekyo| | disregard me btw, talking out of my arse again :) |
| 02:02.09 | basslingo | :P ive been on here long enough to tell ;) |
| 02:02.35 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 02:03.01 | Pkekyo| | rofl....I've got about 180GB worth of movies, and that represents at a maximum 20% of my movie collection |
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| 02:09.27 | esteth | Ok. Something's wrong with either my linux keybindings, my keyboard driver, wine, wow, or the addons i have. bongos is doing the same thing bartender3 was. I get the feeling this has something to do with me running on linux through wine :S |
| 02:09.48 | Graawr | It could very well have :] |
| 02:10.00 | Pkekyo| | esteth: rofl, you've got a fair amount of debugging to do then :p |
| 02:10.15 | Graawr | I tried running steam on wine once |
| 02:10.19 | basslingo | esteth |
| 02:10.19 | Graawr | it missed a font :] |
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| 02:10.24 | basslingo | i use wine |
| 02:10.26 | basslingo | :P |
| 02:10.31 | esteth | yep :( Maybe i'll just roll over and die |
| 02:10.44 | basslingo | esteth, go look at Crossover |
| 02:10.51 | basslingo | its on codeweavers.com |
| 02:11.02 | basslingo | improved version of wine :) |
| 02:11.07 | Pkekyo| | esteth: in the long run, it's easier to just dualboot |
| 02:11.47 | esteth | Pkekyal: I could dual boot, but that means restarting every time i want to play WoW, so i might as well live in windows |
| 02:11.58 | Pkekyo| | I used to be 100% linux....but I spent more time debugging my games than playing them, so I just started dualbooting again :) |
| 02:12.17 | Pkekyo| | out of principle, I'm a *nix man.... out of necessity, I'm a windoze man.... |
| 02:13.59 | basslingo | <-- Apple user :P |
| 02:14.03 | thul | <- apple |
| 02:14.05 | thul | :-D |
| 02:14.06 | basslingo | i get to do both |
| 02:14.15 | basslingo | *nix = console |
| 02:14.25 | basslingo | Crossover, paralells, Bootcamp = windows |
| 02:15.17 | basslingo | Crossover is faster, but if it doesnt work, then i use paralells on my bootcamp partition |
| 02:15.45 | Pkekyo| | I'd be an apple man too....but for some reason, my reason doesn't want to pay 10k for white plastic when my tower's just as good, and got the security of solid steel casing :) |
| 02:16.16 | basslingo | ummmm |
| 02:16.24 | basslingo | titanium casing :P |
| 02:17.02 | esteth | aha! idea. Bind the modified keys to new action bars, and hide those bars, perhaps |
| 02:17.04 | basslingo | we have 7 comps in this house. 5 of which are macs |
| 02:17.26 | basslingo | esteth whats happening exactly |
| 02:17.36 | Pkekyo| | I only own one comp....can't be arsed to own more |
| 02:17.42 | Pkekyo| | though I'll have to get a laptop eventually |
| 02:18.15 | esteth | basslingo: In short, modifier-keybindings don't work with action bars. Except, they do after i bind and unbind those actions with spellbinder |
| 02:18.58 | basslingo | hmm |
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| 02:19.51 | basslingo | might be a mod confliction |
| 02:20.01 | basslingo | disable spellbinder and try just bongos or bartender |
| 02:21.35 | esteth | basslingo: tried that. baught spellbinder in to solve the problem |
| 02:22.09 | Pkekyo| | http://www.wowbash.com/images/1197066680.jpg bwaahahahahah |
| 02:22.15 | esteth | got it working now by dual-binding the original bar with modifier keys, and binding the bar that it mods to with the modified key combos. I don't know why it works, but it does :) |
| 02:22.32 | basslingo | check how each mod binds in the source |
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| 02:34.43 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, my laptop just crashed in the floor |
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| 02:37.14 | esteth | ah well. time for sleep i think 2:40AM here, so i'm only really half awake anyway :P |
| 02:38.07 | Pkekyo| | 3:35am here :) |
| 02:38.11 | Pkekyo| | g'nite |
| 02:38.28 | Pkekyo| | hmm, 2.40....that makes you a brit then? |
| 02:38.39 | esteth | Scooooootland :) |
| 02:38.50 | Stanzilla | 3:40 here |
| 02:39.18 | Pkekyo| | gz, esteth...I guess.... |
| 02:39.20 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 02:39.30 | Pkekyo| | which reminds me...I should buy braveheart |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r57391 10WhoDrop/ (. WhoDrop.lua WhoDrop.toc embeds.xml): |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-8 | WhoDrop - |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-8 | - data update |
| 02:39.38 | CIA-8 | - Now using TipHookerLib |
| 02:40.27 | esteth | hehe. I'm actually a bit freaked out. Whenever i play an MMO i seem to end up in a guild/faction/alliance/corporation/whatever where there's loads of scots. It's a bit freaky. |
| 02:42.06 | esteth | anyways. exit stage left |
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| 02:44.55 | Orionshock | anyone know if there is a reagent cap or if there is a recipe with more than 5 reagents? |
| 02:45.11 | CIA-8 | 03ggcall * r57392 10PlayerNotes/PlayerNotes.toc: |
| 02:45.11 | CIA-8 | PlayerNotes: |
| 02:45.11 | CIA-8 | - patch toc version |
| 02:45.36 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: 5 reagents of different kinds? |
| 02:45.43 | Orionshock | yes |
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| 02:48.32 | Orionshock | ok, according to wowhead, it's 7 different reagents seems to be the max |
| 02:49.22 | thul | http://www.wowbash.com/image-398.html |
| 02:49.32 | thul | http://www.wowbash.com/image-808.html |
| 02:50.21 | Pkekyo| | I've got recipies with more than 5 atleast |
| 02:51.18 | Pkekyo| | screw it, 4am...I'm going to bed |
| 02:51.20 | Pkekyo| | g'nite peeps |
| 02:51.52 | Orionshock | hehe, only thing the AddonDesigner program dosn't sem to have is a drop down box for me >.> |
| 02:52.06 | Orionshock | tho i have a felling that that's a lua contstruct |
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| 03:11.58 | [SW]Dodge | loool http://www.wowbash.com/image-733.html |
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| 03:16.55 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r57393 10NextStep/ (. NextStep.lua NextStep.toc embeds.xml): |
| 03:16.55 | CIA-8 | NextStep - |
| 03:16.55 | CIA-8 | - Now using TipHookerLib |
| 03:17.30 | nymbia | eew, tiphookerlib |
| 03:18.59 | nymbia | what's wrong with OnTooltipSet*? |
| 03:22.12 | Shadowed | don't argue nymbia |
| 03:22.22 | Shadowed | Libraries Just Make It Better(TM) |
| 03:31.12 | Arrowmaster | not that lib |
| 03:31.32 | Arrowmaster | although there is a flaw with OnTooltipSetItem |
| 03:33.21 | nymbia | the fact that it fires OnUpdate for everything these days? |
| 03:37.43 | Arrowmaster | well that, the fact that you cant get an item count unless you hook everything else anyway, and its called twice for recipes |
| 03:45.01 | nymbia | yeah, since the result item is like a second, containted tooltip |
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| 03:58.10 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57394 10AuldLangSyne/Sync/Sync.lua: |
| 03:58.10 | CIA-8 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 03:58.10 | CIA-8 | -Sync: Stop trying to add each sync'd friend twice. |
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| 04:05.10 | shesaws__ | I want to scan the spells of my pet (including tooltips) and save them into DB, can someone point me in the right direction as to where to start (i.e. where to "borrow" that functionality from?) |
| 04:06.35 | kenlyric | TrainerFu |
| 04:06.42 | kenlyric | well, dunno about tooltips. |
| 04:06.57 | khangg | my cartographer doesn't show my tloc when i go /tloc coords |
| 04:07.04 | khangg | on the main map |
| 04:07.23 | shesaws__ | I can live without tooltips, but dunno how to scan the spells generally |
| 04:07.45 | kenlyric | it scans the spells you have to show which you still need from the trainer. |
| 04:07.55 | kenlyric | so that code should be in there, unless it's coming from a lib. |
| 04:08.33 | shesaws__ | it scans my spells or my pet's? |
| 04:08.33 | Ellipsis | shesaws__: wowwiki has great documentation, you should be able to find what you need there |
| 04:08.45 | shesaws__ | mkay |
| 04:09.35 | kenlyric | shesaws__: yes, both |
| 04:09.58 | shesaws__ | ty |
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| 04:39.44 | SquiJi | crap |
| 04:39.52 | SquiJi | my other nick is still logged in >.o |
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| 04:41.32 | nymbia | boot it, if you're registered |
| 04:45.40 | Arcaia | -> /nickserv Ghost <name> <password> |
| 04:48.16 | CIA-8 | 03ominous * r57395 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
| 04:48.47 | khangg | !c us rexxar Toothbrushz |
| 04:48.49 | ThraeBot | khangg: Toothbrushz, Level 70 Orc Hunter (0/41/20). 8633 HP; 5458 Mana; 88 mana regen; 7 mp5; 3807 Armour; 1039 AP; 149.400 Melee DPS; 12.57% melee crit; 36 melee hit; 1186 RAP; 229.00 Ranged DPS; 17.61% ranged crit; 36 ranged hit; 8.98% dodge; 96 resilience;[[ TBR: 978 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2czq6t ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37sgbs ][ Updated: Sun Dec 23 23:52:21 2007 EST ]] |
| 04:48.55 | khangg | :o it worked |
| 04:49.04 | khangg | and there's my horid char |
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| 05:04.33 | Tinyboom | good night/morning and merry christmas ;) |
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| 05:36.01 | Xuerian | At least you've got clean teeth |
| 05:36.15 | Xuerian | Merry christmas? Christmas the 24'th or 5th? |
| 05:36.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ... 25th. |
| 05:36.41 | Xuerian | Then wtf is this wee bloke on about? |
| 05:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | it's still the 23rd, in at least half the us |
| 05:36.56 | NightHawkTheSane | general kindness and well wishing perhaps? |
| 05:37.10 | NightHawkTheSane | you never ever wish people merry christmas before the 25th? |
| 05:37.14 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 05:37.38 | Xuerian | Haven't been lately.. 0_o |
| 05:38.15 | Ellipsis | merry almost-christmas? :P |
| 05:38.52 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, fuck christmas. |
| 05:39.14 | Ellipsis | /nick NightHawkTheGrinch imo |
| 05:39.38 | Ellipsis | not having a happy holiday, then? |
| 05:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* its about as good as any other. |
| 05:40.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Which means, I'm bored and alone. :P |
| 05:40.38 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 05:40.43 | Ellipsis | I will be too |
| 05:40.46 | Ellipsis | we can be alone together! |
| 05:40.49 | Ellipsis | or something |
| 05:40.49 | Xuerian | We should make a club. |
| 05:41.10 | Xuerian | <The Plural Grinch>> |
| 05:41.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm considering spending christmas watching all three lotr movies in order |
| 05:42.01 | NightHawkTheSane | (extended edition, of course) |
| 05:42.11 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * ra221e5e32f 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (5 files): |
| 05:42.11 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Added Horde Stonetalon guide |
| 05:42.11 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Tweaks to Barrens guide |
| 05:42.11 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Belf zones now flow into Stonetalon guide after a bit of "filler" at Camp T |
| 05:42.12 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * raff80ce773 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (5 files): Barrens guide lasts till 20... |
| 05:42.15 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r96b5b66d33 10./TourGuide_Horde/12_20_Barrens.lua: Barrens guide cleanup (still needs major playtesting though!) |
| 05:42.18 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rc8c72d617a 10./TourGuide_Horde/13_20_Ghostlands.lua: More Ghostlands revamp |
| 05:42.22 | Xuerian | orly |
| 05:42.23 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r5ed79b4fe4 10./TourGuide_Horde/01_12_TirisfalGlades.lua: Tirisfal tweakage |
| 05:42.36 | Ellipsis | I'm going to get my alt to 40 or so |
| 05:43.04 | NightHawkTheSane | I might get my druid to 61 too. Or play more lego star wars |
| 05:43.04 | Xuerian | Was going to grind battlegrounds for a pvp raptor... but in my glee at finally 3/0'ing a wsg, I turned in the daily... I was 4k away from 60 >_> |
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| 06:03.45 | Fin | who's Mr ClosetGnome, vhaarr? |
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| 06:07.31 | haste | Fin: y |
| 06:08.22 | Fin | thanks haste |
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| 06:13.27 | basslingo | lol |
| 06:13.36 | basslingo | this is the Draeni dance for WoW |
| 06:13.45 | basslingo | whoops wrong channel |
| 06:14.07 | basslingo | hate when i do that -.- |
| 06:14.23 | nymbia | i just play it off like it's nothing |
| 06:14.37 | nymbia | o yeah guys i meant to type my ssh password in here |
| 06:15.05 | nymbia | good conversation piece, you know |
| 06:15.59 | basslingo | lol |
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| 06:30.40 | Orionshock | ...im lost, how does one use LibGratuity? |
| 06:31.45 | haste | one does not simply just use libgratuity! |
| 06:33.21 | Orionshock | i tried the dating thing it didn't work to well, it said that it wanted time before it went that far.... |
| 06:33.29 | CIA-8 | 03ggcall * r57396 10PlayerNotes/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 06:33.29 | CIA-8 | PlayerNotes: |
| 06:33.29 | CIA-8 | - add zhCN Language |
| 06:33.48 | nymbia | dating? isnt gratuity for tooltip scanning? |
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| 06:34.22 | Orionshock | yes and it's not working :( |
| 06:35.43 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe you should pay it more |
| 06:36.40 | Orionshock | ... -.0 |
| 06:36.57 | basslingo | lawl |
| 06:37.28 | Orionshock | i know this is bad of me... but... /run GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("enchant:32259") for a brief second shows me the link for the item... |
| 06:38.22 | Orionshock | now im lead to believe that i can do just the same to gratuity, ie : Gratuity:SetHyperlink("enchant:32259"), then Gratuity:GetLine(1,true) and get the title... |
| 06:38.27 | Orionshock | but no it's not jiving |
| 06:39.38 | Orionshock | >.> thats because the name is on the left side.. not the right side <.> |
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| 06:42.15 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: so if I disable _mining OR _routes, the slowness disappears |
| 06:42.25 | NeoTron | and it seems to only affect mining, not herbing |
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| 06:56.31 | CIA-8 | 03antiarc * r57397 10LittleBlackBook/LittleBlackBook.lua: LittleBlackBook: Move to a different GUID generation algorithm. |
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| 07:08.42 | Kemayo | ...the returns of GetPlayerMapPosition('player') differ depending on whether or not the flight map is open. |
| 07:08.52 | Ellipsis | ...what |
| 07:09.12 | Lukian | Kemayo, are you for serious? :D |
| 07:09.17 | Kemayo | I am for serious. |
| 07:09.23 | Kemayo | It's new, too. |
| 07:09.32 | Lukian | Out of interest, is it your world coordinates? |
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| 07:10.20 | Kemayo | Hm, let me check. |
| 07:10.45 | Kemayo | Yeah, I think it's the position of the "you are here" dot on the flight map. |
| 07:12.10 | Orionshock | for regex'es , the optional parameter goes where? |
| 07:13.36 | Kemayo | Okay, SetMapToCurrentZone() will do it. |
| 07:15.02 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57398 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: SetMapToCurrentZone() before adding a note, otherwise we get the coordinates of the "you are here" dot on the flight map. |
| 07:16.16 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57399 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Remove debug print. |
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| 07:29.48 | Fin | Orionshock: which optional parameter? |
| 07:29.53 | Fin | what do you mean by "optional parameter"? |
| 07:30.06 | Orionshock | the ? |
| 07:30.11 | Fin | oh, after the character |
| 07:30.19 | Orionshock | nmd, i managed to do what i needed with gsub :D |
| 07:30.21 | Fin | eg, jpe?g |
| 07:30.23 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think pitbull's energy ticker handles powershifting well |
| 07:30.24 | Fin | to match jpg or jpeg |
| 07:31.20 | Fin | (incidentally it's called a quantifier) |
| 07:31.25 | Orionshock | string.gsub(string.gsub(string.gsub("<Some Reagents Line on a ToolTip","%c",""),"|cff%x%x%x%x%x%x",""),"|r","") |
| 07:31.30 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 07:31.46 | Fin | I'm blind! |
| 07:31.48 | Fin | I can't see! |
| 07:31.49 | Fin | aiee! |
| 07:32.34 | Orionshock | any one know of a prittyier way of cleaning that up? |
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| 07:33.27 | Fin | erm, I didn't even try and parse it, can you explain what you're trying to do please? |
| 07:34.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm trying to parse it, but I don't think I'm drunk enough to understand that |
| 07:34.54 | Fin | someone reboot Orionshock |
| 07:34.59 | Ellipsis | and I think I'm too drunk |
| 07:35.03 | Orionshock | ..|.. |
| 07:35.07 | NightHawkTheSane | there's no such thing, Ellipsis |
| 07:35.08 | Orionshock | parse that |
| 07:35.25 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.30 | Fin | Ellipsis: but are you *sure*? if you only *think* you're too drunk, maybe you're fine for another shot! |
| 07:35.35 | Fin | there's only one way to find out |
| 07:35.37 | Ellipsis | likely am |
| 07:35.43 | Ellipsis | unfortunately I can't try it atm |
| 07:35.46 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 07:35.58 | NightHawkTheSane | why not?:P |
| 07:36.02 | Fin | excuses will not be tolerated |
| 07:36.10 | Ellipsis | er, well, because I don't drink, actually |
| 07:36.17 | NightHawkTheSane | pffft |
| 07:36.19 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a lame excuse |
| 07:36.21 | Ellipsis | you know, being that I'm underage and all.... |
| 07:36.27 | Ellipsis | and I'd *never* do anything illegal... |
| 07:36.31 | Fin | no! |
| 07:36.38 | NightHawkTheSane | oh right, i forgot you're still a youngin |
| 07:36.42 | Fin | are you in America, though? |
| 07:36.52 | Ellipsis | indeed I am |
| 07:37.13 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, sometimes i actually forget not everyone is as ancient as i am. |
| 07:37.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I think I'm just losing my mind |
| 07:37.27 | Fin | OK, so you're not *really* underage, you're just living in the wrong place |
| 07:37.35 | Ellipsis | you could say that Fin |
| 07:37.52 | Ellipsis | if I go up to canada I can get drunk all I like! |
| 07:38.00 | Fin | 21 is an absolutely obscene age to have to wait until |
| 07:38.32 | Fin | it makes no sense at all and doesn't fit in with any of the other age-laws that I know of |
| 07:39.10 | Fin | and of course makes approximately no difference at all as to whether people drink before they're 21 |
| 07:39.15 | Fin | I hate laws like that |
| 07:41.34 | Ellipsis | what on earth are you talking about, kids under 21 would *never* drink alcohol! |
| 07:41.38 | Fin | life bugs and you get stuck in a wall |
| 07:41.50 | Fin | never |
| 07:41.52 | Antiarc | It's pretty hilarious that at 20 years old, I can die for my country, vote for the leader of the free world, kill myself with carcinogens, but booze? EVIL BAD NO TOUCH. |
| 07:41.52 | Fin | right |
| 07:42.09 | Fin | don't forget impregnate your 16 year old cousin |
| 07:42.20 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: thats not true |
| 07:42.20 | Fin | or be impregnated by at 16 by your cousin |
| 07:42.22 | NightHawkTheSane | only in like.. 25 states |
| 07:42.32 | Fin | or at least have some sort of bottom sex |
| 07:42.54 | Fin | maybe front bottoms |
| 07:43.02 | Fin | whatever you fancy |
| 07:43.04 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: At least in the US it is. |
| 07:43.12 | Fin | as long as you're not on alcohol at the time! |
| 07:43.19 | Arrowmaster | if you're serving in the US military you can drink alcohol even if under 21 |
| 07:43.39 | Fin | that just makes the law SO MUCH BETTER |
| 07:43.47 | Fin | now it PERFECTLY makes sense oh my GOD yay |
| 07:43.53 | Antiarc | Well, point being that you can serve as a soldier and go kill people before you can legally drink, all other things held constant |
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| 07:44.08 | Fin | fuck! I hate these laws because they're so FUCKING retarded and I can't do anything about and I get the rage |
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| 07:45.03 | haste | no statutory rape for Fin ? |
| 07:45.12 | ckknight | haste: depends on the state |
| 07:46.05 | Fin | didn't know if it was 16 everywhere or 18 or what |
| 07:46.21 | Fin | I decided to simplify things by pretending it was |
| 07:46.22 | haste | D: |
| 07:46.30 | Fin | do you think that'll work in court? |
| 07:46.59 | ckknight | it used to be 14 in Hawaii |
| 07:47.03 | ckknight | they changed it to 16, though |
| 07:47.14 | Fin | it's 15 here (in the Czech Republic) |
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| 07:47.36 | Fin | they had a proposal to bring it down to 14, but it got voted against with quite a nice argument, I thought |
| 07:47.40 | Antiarc | Man, Shahraz makes me happy there aren't more resist fights in BC |
| 07:47.48 | Arrowmaster | Fin: rofl wtf? |
| 07:47.55 | Fin | they said OK, we'll make the age of consent 14, if we can make the age of criminal responsibility 14 as well |
| 07:48.05 | Fin | which sounds fair to me |
| 07:48.43 | Fin | but people didn't want their kids to be legally responsible for their actions, as *well* as legally allowed to hump each other |
| 07:49.42 | Fin | I don't see what's wrong with 14 myself |
| 07:49.55 | Fin | I remember when I was 14 I was desperate to have sex as soon as possible |
| 07:49.59 | Ellipsis | consensual humping should never be illegal |
| 07:50.01 | Ellipsis | </imo> |
| 07:50.10 | Fin | I don't think it would've hurt me if I'd had sex then |
| 07:50.18 | Fin | actually I would've rather enjoyed it, I think |
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| 07:50.32 | Fin | yyyyup, fairly sure |
| 07:56.01 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r57400 10GridStatusLifebloom/GridStatusLifebloom.lua: |
| 07:56.01 | CIA-8 | GridStatusLifebloom : |
| 07:56.01 | CIA-8 | - koKR Update |
| 07:56.02 | ckknight | Ellipsis: I see issues with that argument |
| 07:56.24 | ckknight | Ellipsis: an old man could convince a 5-year-old that he or she wants to have sex and an argument could be made that it's "consentual", but so hard to gauge |
| 07:57.16 | Fin | stop it, you're making me horny |
| 07:57.23 | Orionshock | urg.... |
| 07:57.28 | CIA-8 | 03ggcall * r57401 10PlayerNotes/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 07:57.28 | CIA-8 | PlayerNotes: |
| 07:57.28 | CIA-8 | - add zhCN Language file |
| 07:57.29 | Fin | sorry, sorry |
| 07:57.41 | Fin | I couldn't help it! |
| 07:57.43 | Ellipsis | ckknight: there are already rules regarding that kind of situation for people over the age of consent, though |
| 07:57.46 | Orionshock | help... regex the number out of " (10) " ? |
| 07:57.52 | Fin | (neither could she!) |
| 07:57.53 | Ellipsis | those should still apply, obviously |
| 07:58.08 | Fin | %((%d)%) |
| 07:58.53 | Fin | er |
| 07:59.02 | Fin | %((%d+)%) |
| 07:59.24 | CIA-8 | 03ggcall * r57402 10PlayerNotes/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 07:59.24 | CIA-8 | PlayerNotes: |
| 07:59.24 | CIA-8 | - fix a bug |
| 08:00.05 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.07 | Orionshock | I WIN |
| 08:02.09 | Fin | did that work? |
| 08:02.23 | Orionshock | do u wnat to see how conveluded it is? |
| 08:02.30 | Orionshock | i'll pastey it |
| 08:02.31 | Fin | sort of |
| 08:02.41 | Fin | incidentally you're welcome, tch |
| 08:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | "convoluted" |
| 08:03.49 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: wtf are you trying to match there? |
| 08:04.01 | Orionshock | yes, thankyou fin, you have been very very helpful to me :D |
| 08:04.03 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/79463 |
| 08:04.23 | Fin | don't mean to sound narky, sorry |
| 08:04.38 | Arrowmaster | yes but what does GetReagetLineFromLink return that youre matching? |
| 08:04.45 | Orionshock | no your right, im forgetful and don't often see ppl that are helping me |
| 08:05.03 | Fin | that's very gracious of you to admit |
| 08:05.42 | Fin | I do it too sometimes and I hate catching myself, which is why I bothered miffing |
| 08:05.51 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.27 | Orionshock | that's what it's matching ... that match regex returns the Reagent Name and the ammount needed as seen on the tooltip |
| 08:06.41 | Arrowmaster | "([%w%s]+) %((%d+)%)" |
| 08:07.20 | Arrowmaster | i dont know how ([%w+%s+]) actually matched anything for you |
| 08:07.24 | Orionshock | ya i realized after the fact that i had a few extra + in it |
| 08:07.44 | Arrowmaster | + outside of [] not inside |
| 08:07.56 | Thrae | %w%s would match the colour codes too -- is that what you want? |
| 08:08.10 | Lukian | wt... |
| 08:08.11 | Fin | ([%w%s]+) would quite often match the whole string, I would've thought |
| 08:08.13 | Orionshock | no the color codes are being striped out before that regex hits |
| 08:08.22 | Lukian | I think all my rock addons just reset their config |
| 08:08.30 | Lukian | haha |
| 08:08.31 | Thrae | Ah, OK |
| 08:08.39 | Thrae | Then [%w%s] it is |
| 08:09.02 | Thrae | Fin: Right, he wants the reagant and the reagant amount, and Arrowmaster's pattern is correct |
| 08:09.09 | Arrowmaster | Fin: for a match, yeah it probably would but i dont think gmatch would |
| 08:09.27 | Orionshock | but for me, to the point of my torture today, i now have one of the fundamental function sequences that allows my addon to work :D |
| 08:09.36 | Thrae | [%w%s] would stop at the (2), etc. |
| 08:09.54 | Thrae | If needed, switch from greedy to non-greedy |
| 08:10.27 | Fin | actually I think I'm wrong |
| 08:10.34 | Fin | I was forgetting punctuation like ,s and :s |
| 08:11.08 | Thrae | Ooo, good call...%w doesn't take puncuation, does it? |
| 08:11.10 | Arrowmaster | although depending on the language [%w%s] might not be enough |
| 08:11.12 | Fin | [%w%s]+ would match everything up until the first nonspace nonletter nonnumber character |
| 08:11.22 | Fin | no, it's just a-z with 0-9 I think |
| 08:11.44 | Orionshock | im working with engrish atm ppl :P |
| 08:11.47 | Fin | w is for word, so any word character |
| 08:11.49 | Fin | "%w: represents all alphanumeric characters" |
| 08:11.56 | Arrowmaster | %w is a-z A-Z 0-9 for english |
| 08:12.01 | Thrae | [%w%p%s]+ then |
| 08:12.07 | Arrowmaster | i think it includes other characters for other languages |
| 08:12.12 | Arrowmaster | like accented characters |
| 08:13.13 | Thrae | Although, I'm not sure how Lua defines a "punctuation character" |
| 08:13.33 | Thrae | If () is punctuation, then that pattern won't work...but () isn't punctuation |
| 08:13.45 | Fin | I just typed: "I would match against something like what Orionshock was trying to do, personally, like ':[%w%s]+", but then I changed my mind... I reckon I'd split the string, then match against individual reagent bits |
| 08:13.49 | Orionshock | hehe... all i need now is a GUI to stick all this information into ... like another custom GUI-3 widget |
| 08:13.49 | Thrae | In natural grammar |
| 08:14.04 | Thrae | > print("hi") |
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| 08:14.10 | Thrae | Where's that bot |
| 08:14.15 | Fin | reagents = string.split(str, '%s+,%s+') |
| 08:14.51 | Arrowmaster | %p will include the () though so the greedy vs nongreedy matching might be a problem |
| 08:15.02 | Thrae | Dammit |
| 08:15.16 | Arrowmaster | just include ' in it |
| 08:15.23 | Orionshock | works for english... if ya'll in another locale have better sugestion im all for it :D |
| 08:15.30 | Arrowmaster | really [%w '] should be enough |
| 08:15.34 | Orionshock | Thrae /msg lua_bot lua> ... |
| 08:15.48 | Fin | I don't think that's a good idea, Arrowmaster... |
| 08:15.51 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.01 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.07 | Arrowmaster | which is why theres a space inside that [] |
| 08:16.17 | Arrowmaster | %s matches more than just a normal space |
| 08:16.19 | Fin | it would be better to match on something you know as a delimeter than match everything you think will be there as the bits between the delimeters... |
| 08:16.34 | Fin | it matches "whitespace" |
| 08:16.52 | Orionshock | the only common delimiter is that at the end of the name is (<aNumber>), |
| 08:17.08 | Orionshock | " (<aNumber>), " |
| 08:17.18 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: or you could not run it through 20 gsubs to strip everything else out |
| 08:17.38 | Orionshock | and why not? |
| 08:17.44 | Fin | so, gmatch, yeah, aginst ([^)]+%)) |
| 08:18.03 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rbb4db54f5b 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (6 files): Ally fixups with new debug |
| 08:18.03 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rf1340ba8fb 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (12_20_Barrens.lua 13_20_Ghostlands.lua): Horde fixups using new debug |
| 08:18.03 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r9179377671 10./ (OHFrame.lua Parser.lua): All-debug improvements |
| 08:18.04 | Thrae | > print( string.match("Finger Lickin' Good (10)", "([%w%s%p]+) %((%d+)%)") ) |
| 08:18.06 | Thrae | Finger Lickin' Good 10 |
| 08:18.12 | Fin | actually that would be my final answer until I'm wrong |
| 08:18.26 | Thrae | So () isn't punctuation |
| 08:18.35 | Fin | it doesn't matter what's before the stuff in brackets though, right? |
| 08:18.39 | Fin | just match the brackets |
| 08:18.57 | Orionshock | fin's got a point |
| 08:19.04 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.match("{}[](),.'", "%p+") |
| 08:19.11 | Arrowmaster | <lua_bot> Arrowmaster: {}[](),.', |
| 08:19.15 | Arrowmaster | sorry it is |
| 08:19.33 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Uh, (%p+)? |
| 08:19.51 | Arrowmaster | its match |
| 08:20.31 | Arrowmaster | you dont need to use captures |
| 08:20.34 | Thrae | Oh, I didn't know match returned the entire string if the pattern matches and there's no captures |
| 08:21.02 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:21.07 | Fin | lua> for reagent, count in string.gmatch('Fel Iron Ore (10)', '([^(]+%([^)]+%))' |
| 08:21.13 | Fin | erm, oops |
| 08:22.30 | Arrowmaster | "|cff%x%x%x%x%x%x(.-) %((%d+)%)," |
| 08:22.57 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: .... btw the color code is optional |
| 08:23.06 | Arrowmaster | in the return? |
| 08:23.07 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 08:23.12 | Orionshock | on the reagent list |
| 08:23.28 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 08:23.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats right its just to mark it red or not |
| 08:23.51 | Orionshock | "Reagents: \010Heavy Knothide Leather (10), |cffff2020Bolt of Soulcloth (16)|r, ..." |
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| 08:24.11 | Orionshock | and you need to nix the \010 at the opening |
| 08:24.21 | Orionshock | ..maybe |
| 08:25.26 | Arrowmaster | fine |
| 08:26.24 | Orionshock | now the real question, what's better ripping the tooltip appart or using PT4? |
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| 08:26.51 | Arrowmaster | "([^,]+) %((%d+)%)" |
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| 08:27.20 | Orionshock | what exactly is [^,] ? |
| 08:27.29 | Orionshock | the f is that matching?? |
| 08:27.35 | Arrowmaster | everything but , |
| 08:27.40 | Arrowmaster | <('.'^) (^'.'^) <('.')> (^'.'^) (^'.')> |
| 08:27.51 | Fin | for reagent, count in string.gmatch(str, '([^(]+)%((%d+)') do print('reagent: ' .. tostring(reagent) .. ', count: ' .. tostring(count)) end |
| 08:28.11 | Ellipsis | how disturbing |
| 08:28.21 | Ellipsis | I can't tell if that's supposed to be a regex or kirby art unless I study it |
| 08:28.27 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 08:28.32 | Orionshock | fin wouldn't it be [^)] ? |
| 08:28.49 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:29.03 | Orionshock | oh nmd |
| 08:29.07 | Arrowmaster | put a % infront of that ( or ) whichever it is |
| 08:29.54 | Fin | gimme a test string, please? |
| 08:30.43 | Fin | thanks, got it |
| 08:31.59 | Fin | personally I'd strip out the colours first, but if you need to parse with them in... |
| 08:32.14 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: and clean up your NixReagentLine() |
| 08:32.19 | Fin | q! |
| 08:32.22 | Fin | er, oops |
| 08:33.03 | Orionshock | err, how? |
| 08:33.06 | Fin | I think splitting and then parsing each bit is the correct way to do it |
| 08:33.31 | Thrae | Hmmm, I think I may be pushing the limits of my PSU...non-overclocked Q6600 is said to be ~120W max, my 8800 GT is ~50W max, my second video card probably runs at ~10W max (little stress on it), my HDDs are ~10W max each, my DDR2 memory ~60W max, and then there's the 6 case fans. So that's 265W, not counting what the motherboard and fans need. |
| 08:34.07 | Fin | I had big problems with my 8800GTX for a long time |
| 08:34.13 | Fin | couldn't figure out what it was exactly |
| 08:34.21 | Fin | I bought a 550W PSU, after all |
| 08:34.51 | Fin | but I got one of those extras PSUs that's just for the graphics card, only has two PCIx power leads coming out of it, now it's fine |
| 08:35.21 | Lukian | hehe |
| 08:35.28 | Fin | they're BEASTS |
| 08:35.41 | Thrae | Actually, my memory takes up more power then my 8800 GT -- memory normally takes up 10-15W per DIMM |
| 08:35.46 | Fin | what's the syntax for the builtin string.split function in WoW, please? |
| 08:35.59 | Arrowmaster | char, string |
| 08:36.01 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 08:36.09 | Fin | I can't find a reference |
| 08:36.09 | Fin | thanks |
| 08:36.26 | Fin | it does take regexes, right? :) |
| 08:36.32 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:36.34 | Fin | oh balls |
| 08:37.21 | Lukian | ugh half my addon config has been lost |
| 08:37.36 | Arrowmaster | string.split(",", string.match(val, "\010(.*)")) |
| 08:38.35 | Fin | you know, my regex above works basically |
| 08:38.55 | Fin | it just includes part of the colour codes, which you can split off or keep for colourification |
| 08:39.06 | Fin | for reagent, count in string.gmatch(str, '([^(]+)%((%d+)') do print('reagent: ' .. tostring(reagent) .. ', count: ' .. tostring(count)) end |
| 08:40.52 | Orionshock | add a %s? to the front of that. |
| 08:42.14 | Arrowmaster | i still think "([%w ']+) %((%d+)%)" should be fine |
| 08:42.35 | Orionshock | well lets find out... |
| 08:42.43 | Orionshock | any one here in a non enUS locale? |
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| 08:46.14 | Orionshock | that's what i thought.... LOL |
| 08:47.17 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/79464 |
| 08:47.29 | Fin | OK here's my final answer: for reagent, count in string.gmatch(str, '[,%s]*%w([^,(]+)%((%d+)%)') do |
| 08:48.00 | Arrowmaster | umm fin wtf |
| 08:49.45 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/79465 |
| 08:50.42 | Fin | ocal noob = gsub( gsub( gsub( gsub( aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh |
| 08:50.47 | Fin | +l |
| 08:51.26 | Fin | although this is fun, I strongly believe it's the wrong way to be parsing the text :) |
| 08:51.49 | Orionshock | meh... |
| 08:51.56 | Orionshock | i could always use PT4 |
| 08:52.05 | Fin | if the text ever changes slightly you'll have a nightmare figuring out what you were trying to do in the first place |
| 08:52.12 | Orionshock | but that's a horrific ugly mess imo |
| 08:52.18 | Arrowmaster | val:match("\010.*"):gsub("|cff%x%x%x%x%x%x", ""):gsub("|r", "") |
| 08:52.20 | Arrowmaster | imho |
| 08:52.23 | Arrowmaster | then |
| 08:52.41 | Fin | break the strings down into substrings, and parse those with simple regexes |
| 08:52.43 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: \010 only happens once |
| 08:52.48 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 08:53.21 | Arrowmaster | thats to keep it from breaking on different locales that done have "Reagents: " |
| 08:53.26 | Orionshock | Fin if i do that tekk will yell and scream at me again :(( |
| 08:53.32 | Fin | do you need the colour in there? |
| 08:53.42 | Orionshock | no no color |
| 08:54.30 | Arrowmaster | "[\010, ](.-) %((%d+)%)" |
| 08:54.31 | Fin | why would he yell and scream at you? you could make a ParseReagentLine and return the elements of the string, then you can change the function to do whatever you like as long as it returns the right set of bits |
| 08:54.50 | RaydenU | how much threat does ranged dmg do? |
| 08:55.04 | Arrowmaster | RaydenU: same as all other damage |
| 08:55.09 | RaydenU | i thought it did less threat? |
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| 08:55.12 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:55.15 | RaydenU | so you could do some extra dmg and not pull the tank |
| 08:55.18 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:55.24 | RaydenU | or is it how much threat required to pull aggro... |
| 08:55.29 | Arrowmaster | required to pull |
| 08:55.34 | Arrowmaster | and its a broken mechanic |
| 08:55.36 | RaydenU | yeah that makes more sense |
| 08:55.37 | RaydenU | ? |
| 08:55.59 | RaydenU | what is the %? |
| 08:56.01 | Arrowmaster | try doing razorgore as a horde warlock without salv and youll understand |
| 08:56.11 | Orionshock | LOL Arrowmaster |
| 08:56.26 | RaydenU | 120%? |
| 08:56.40 | vithos | 130% vs 110% iirc |
| 08:56.42 | Arrowmaster | oh sure you wont pull until 130% but on any fight that the tank gets CC'd you still cant go above 100% |
| 08:56.49 | Orionshock | RaydenU: 110% for melee and 130% for ranged |
| 08:56.54 | RaydenU | k |
| 08:56.58 | Arrowmaster | yet the rogues get -29% threat just for being rogues |
| 08:57.12 | Orionshock | night all it's been fun. |
| 08:57.22 | Arrowmaster | thats why i say its a broken mechanic |
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| 08:57.53 | Ravagernl | heya guys |
| 08:58.08 | Orionshock | if you want to see more horror and disbelief that someone could write that, http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/GuildCraft/ |
| 08:58.12 | Orionshock | night all |
| 08:58.50 | Ravagernl | can anyone link me to an addon that attempts to stop macro spam (eg /p Polymorphing %t) |
| 09:00.33 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.45 | haste | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6853-MacroTalk.html |
| 09:00.56 | Ozguli | the warlock ones SUCK |
| 09:01.02 | Ozguli | "come here boy!" |
| 09:01.10 | Ozguli | like, do they want this legion thing happen again? |
| 09:01.37 | Xuerian | From the nether.... FOR THE LEGION! |
| 09:01.45 | Ozguli | idd |
| 09:01.51 | Ozguli | "master, can I go to meeting with my friends?" |
| 09:02.30 | RaydenU | why can't you join AV as a group? |
| 09:02.46 | Ozguli | too imba |
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| 09:03.17 | RaydenU | how is it any different than any other premade? |
| 09:03.26 | Xuerian | It's bigger, longer, and more painful |
| 09:03.29 | RaydenU | longer? |
| 09:03.32 | Ozguli | flasked 40-man av :P |
| 09:03.36 | RaydenU | i find WSG is generally longer than AV |
| 09:03.50 | Xuerian | It wasn't always like that :( |
| 09:03.52 | RaydenU | nor is it much longer than AB or EOTS for me idon't think |
| 09:04.17 | Xuerian | Though, being horde now, it's nice... alliance just die themselves out |
| 09:04.42 | vithos | i'd think premade AV's would be faster than non-premade |
| 09:04.48 | Ravagernl | haste: my mage friend already has that installed, it doesn't blok him from spamming the chat |
| 09:04.58 | Ravagernl | and he likes to spam his polymorph macro |
| 09:06.02 | Ravagernl | I was looking for an addon that could hook sendchatmessage and filter out anything if it would match the previous |
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| 09:07.41 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/79466 |
| 09:07.51 | Fin | Ravagernl: Prat |
| 09:08.21 | Ravagernl | fin:what module? |
| 09:08.28 | Fin | CustomFilter |
| 09:09.19 | Fin | oh |
| 09:09.20 | Fin | he's gone |
| 09:09.38 | Ravagernl | hmm, going to check that out then :P |
| 09:10.30 | Fin | your brain will explode with delight |
| 09:10.39 | Fin | or your money back |
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| 09:11.16 | Ravagernl | lol |
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| 09:12.06 | cncfanatics | yo all ! |
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| 09:16.50 | Ravagernl | ok fin how to use customfilter then? |
| 09:33.39 | Kemayo | Oh, the things I would give for access to real questids. |
| 09:35.25 | Lukian | uggh |
| 09:35.37 | Lukian | wow & 0 disk space = corrupt addon configs :p |
| 09:36.10 | Arrowmaster | omg fucking cliffhangers right before schudule changes due to holidays |
| 09:37.32 | Fin | Ravagernl: what have you tried so far? |
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| 09:37.50 | CIA-8 | 03ensabahnur * r57403 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (3 files): |
| 09:37.50 | CIA-8 | FuBar_GarbageFu: |
| 09:37.50 | CIA-8 | - updated DE Locale |
| 09:37.50 | CIA-8 | - added Ammo Pouch for DE and EN Locale |
| 09:39.00 | Fin | oh, hey, yeah, Kemayo! I heard a rumour you were possibly implementing one of all time most wanted features for a quest addon - arbitrary categorisation - is this news TRUE? or even remotely true? |
| 09:39.07 | Fin | bummer Lukian |
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| 09:40.57 | Lukian | mostly the loss of my click2cast keybinds :( |
| 09:44.10 | Ozguli | is click2cast even THAT cool? |
| 09:44.30 | Ozguli | everyone seems to be ranting about it |
| 09:44.44 | Ozguli | but might turn out to be just like Grid - I didn't like it at all |
| 09:45.40 | cncfanatics | clique changes your playstyle |
| 09:45.45 | cncfanatics | which is why some ppl can't miss it |
| 09:45.48 | cncfanatics | and others don't like it |
| 09:45.50 | Fin | well gosh someone should delete it from the internet then, those people must be wrong? |
| 09:45.57 | Arrowmaster | usually when people rant about grid theyre actually ranting about grid+clique |
| 09:46.31 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with grid+clique? |
| 09:46.39 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 09:46.39 | Fin | and arg! it's not any specific addon or whatever, all it is is combining key bindings with mouse clicks... it gets me when people refer to that as "clique" or something :) |
| 09:47.02 | Fin | why did you respond with "what's wrong with grid+clique"? |
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| 09:47.33 | Fin | methinks the lady doth protest too much |
| 09:47.39 | Fin | :P |
| 09:47.41 | dresum | can anyone help me install WoWAce? |
| 09:47.48 | Arrowmaster | clique came first and afaik is still considered the superior addon as far as features go, so most people just refer to 'that type of addon' as clique |
| 09:48.13 | Fin | not that I care, but clique didn't come first :) |
| 09:48.31 | Arrowmaster | oh really then what did |
| 09:48.36 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom. |
| 09:48.39 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 09:48.54 | Fin | well, define first *what*, before I can answer that |
| 09:49.17 | Fin | that's mostly my point :) but! myBindings2 had click+keybinding support before clique, as did the bar addon I was using at the time |
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| 09:49.22 | Fin | Bongos I think |
| 09:49.26 | Fin | it broke in a patch though and didn't come back for a while |
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| 09:49.38 | Arrowmaster | umm afaik myBindings2 didnt exist prior to 2.x |
| 09:49.47 | Fin | myBindings, then, sorry |
| 09:49.55 | Fin | it wasn't around for a while, a sad time, but it came back |
| 09:49.59 | Arrowmaster | i used myBindings in 1.x |
| 09:49.59 | Fin | better than ever |
| 09:50.03 | Fin | yeah, me too |
| 09:50.04 | Arrowmaster | it never had that feature |
| 09:50.14 | Fin | I must be thinking of something else, then |
| 09:50.34 | Fin | but I used "click casting" (it's not even casting a lot of the time!) in 1.x |
| 09:50.38 | Fin | I don't want to fight about this! |
| 09:51.14 | Fin | I don't give a shit really! just annoyed at how people's perceptions bring something wrongly into focus when it has a perfectly good reason to be popular anyway |
| 09:51.17 | Arrowmaster | only thing i know of that did it in 1.x was clique |
| 09:51.21 | Fin | or things |
| 09:51.37 | Fin | "did it", you mean, allow keys to be bound with mouse clicks? |
| 09:52.00 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 09:52.01 | Fin | you could do it by just editing your bindings-cache.wtf file, I did at first |
| 09:52.07 | Fin | wait, I know what it was! JustClicks |
| 09:52.08 | Fin | that's it |
| 09:52.14 | Fin | it was before clique |
| 09:52.25 | Arrowmaster | was talking about clicking on unitframes to cast |
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| 09:52.58 | Fin | I remember trying to convince people to implement support for JustClick and getting either narky responses - a bit like yours now - when I was only trying to show how something useful could be added; or ignored, which was almost as bad |
| 09:53.16 | Fin | then suddently clique is saving drowning puppies |
| 09:53.28 | Arrowmaster | what nasty remarks? |
| 09:54.04 | Fin | uhm, no narky remarks, I was wrong, all my fault |
| 09:54.41 | Fin | but also because I'm wrong! |
| 09:54.43 | Fin | of course |
| 09:55.34 | Fin | JustClicks was really neat, you could implement support for click binding in your addon with one file, it was dead sipmle |
| 09:56.09 | Arrowmaster | its "JustClick" not "JustClicks", couldnt find shit for "JustClicks" using google |
| 09:56.23 | Fin | I remember the readme emphasised how it made things simpler |
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| 09:56.41 | Fin | I never got how it was so revolutionary though, cos people use the mouse + keyboard in stuff like windows all the time |
| 09:57.03 | Fin | I do ctrl + drag to copy a file, drag and drop links from my browser to the toolbar, etc., all the time |
| 09:57.38 | Fin | it seemed sort of weird to hear that defined with a Name and stuff |
| 09:57.56 | Fin | does anyone understand what I'm talking about? or should I just shut up |
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| 09:58.21 | Fin | and, thanks, -s to many lines above then |
| 09:59.10 | Fin | (it like if you imagined that WoW came out without custom key bindings at all, then an addon implemented an interface to it, and everyone called "key bindings" by that addon's name) |
| 09:59.27 | chexsum | woohoo a days holiday |
| 09:59.30 | Fin | nope? never mind then, shut up it is |
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| 10:02.01 | chexsum | you jguys still talking about keybinds ? |
| 10:02.09 | chexsum | i started the convo 8 hours ago |
| 10:03.07 | Fin | "WoW provides a great UI already, the one called 'Key Bindings', why don't use it? This is exactly what JustClick does, the all UI is done with just one tiny modification of the WoW behavior allowing Left and Right mouse buttons in key bindings." |
| 10:03.12 | Fin | there! that's what I mean |
| 10:03.31 | Fin | the conversation started before that, I would've thought. but well done! |
| 10:04.11 | chexsum | theres room for a keybinding mod imho -- said by me 8 hours ago hhe |
| 10:04.38 | Kemayo | Fin: I haven't particularly been doing anything about aribrary categories. It's not a particularly difficult thing to do, of course. (Though it's easy to do wrong, if you assume that no other addons exist and will be asking about quests.) |
| 10:06.34 | Fin | Kemayo: oh well, it was a nice dream while it lasted |
| 10:07.04 | Fin | Kemayo: there's only one addon I know of that does it (MarsQuestOrganizer), and it breaks Quixote |
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| 10:08.24 | Kemayo | Yes; as I recall, because it doesn't hook everything, so Quixote gets some weird-ass results when it asks for things by quest id. |
| 10:08.30 | Fin | I don't understand why someone more able than I hasn't been as fucked off as I've been when looking for quests in a particular zone while levelling (and finding all the quests in unrelated categories :) |
| 10:09.19 | Fin | yeah, I had a look to see if I could fix it, and it seems as though it hooked a bunch of functions just to be able to do what it does without worrying about anything else that might use return values from them |
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| 10:09.35 | Fin | but I had no idea what was *supposed* be happening so gave up |
| 10:09.36 | wowguy | wow needs 512mb of ram but will i be able to run it with 256mb ram and virtual memory? |
| 10:09.47 | Fin | it hurts my brain working backwards through code like that |
| 10:09.50 | Arrowmaster | wowguy: probably no |
| 10:09.51 | Lukian | Time to redo all my keybinds :( |
| 10:10.04 | Fin | would windows even be able to run in that? |
| 10:10.05 | wowguy | 'probably no' is not the answer i was looking for :( |
| 10:10.11 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 10:10.12 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:10.15 | wowguy | my sisters computer is so crappy |
| 10:10.21 | wowguy | the only reason i came here was to play wow :) |
| 10:10.43 | Arrowmaster | no you cannot run windows xp and any other memory intense program on only 256mb of ram |
| 10:11.01 | Fin | s/and any other.*// # :P |
| 10:11.02 | wowguy | :( |
| 10:11.10 | Fin | arg, that didn't work |
| 10:11.16 | Fin | but you know what I mean :) |
| 10:11.37 | Arrowmaster | you can run windows xp on 256mb of ram, but its really really really slow and crappy |
| 10:11.42 | wowguy | ya |
| 10:11.55 | Fin | have you tried it?! |
| 10:12.00 | Arrowmaster | yes i have |
| 10:12.15 | Fin | ye gods I hope it was just an experiment |
| 10:12.17 | Arrowmaster | my friends parents bought a shitty hp from radioshack |
| 10:12.20 | Fin | for your sake, I mean |
| 10:12.28 | Arrowmaster | i had to fix it a few times |
| 10:12.30 | wowguy | i'm going to try run wow anyway when it's installed |
| 10:13.13 | Arrowmaster | running xp + who knows how many useless taskbar shit like weatherbug and other stuff = hell |
| 10:13.15 | wowguy | god damnit should have brought my desktop |
| 10:13.22 | Arrowmaster | with only 256mb of ram |
| 10:13.25 | wowguy | vista has much more crap on it i think |
| 10:13.35 | wowguy | and it fucks up my bittorrent |
| 10:13.40 | Arrowmaster | you cant even run vista on 256mb of ram |
| 10:13.45 | wowguy | ya i know |
| 10:13.51 | wowguy | i have vista on my desktop at home |
| 10:13.55 | Arrowmaster | im sorry |
| 10:13.58 | wowguy | lol |
| 10:13.59 | wowguy | good |
| 10:14.01 | wowguy | :D |
| 10:14.08 | Arrowmaster | upgrade to xp |
| 10:14.19 | wowguy | i'd like to put ubuntu on it |
| 10:14.23 | wowguy | you can play wow on ubuntu |
| 10:14.31 | wowguy | apparently it runs much smoother |
| 10:14.32 | Arrowmaster | windows me > windows vista |
| 10:14.40 | Fin | that's harsh |
| 10:14.49 | Arrowmaster | i used me for a while |
| 10:14.53 | Arrowmaster | it wasnt 'that' bad |
| 10:15.03 | Arrowmaster | although it was bad |
| 10:15.03 | wowguy | i think the wow installer has frozen :( |
| 10:15.08 | Fin | I had to support windows me dial up users at an ISP in 1996 |
| 10:15.16 | Fin | no, no it was that bad |
| 10:15.31 | Arrowmaster | i was going to say, windows me didnt exist in 1996 |
| 10:15.47 | Fin | I really do think it was a very very poor product that should never have been sold |
| 10:16.01 | wowguy | my first operating system was mac os 7.5 |
| 10:16.01 | Fin | when did it come out? |
| 10:16.09 | Arrowmaster | 99-01 i think |
| 10:16.15 | wowguy | that was a disgusting operating system |
| 10:16.35 | Arrowmaster | i thought it came out after win2000 |
| 10:17.01 | Fin | what am I thinking of then |
| 10:17.08 | Arrowmaster | 95 |
| 10:17.19 | Arrowmaster | 95a and not 95b? |
| 10:18.16 | Fin | no that was always better... at least more stable as I remember it... god is 10 years long enough for it to be an OK excuse that I can't remember? |
| 10:18.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think |
| 10:18.38 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57406 10QuixoteShouldShutUp/ (. QuixoteShouldShutUp.toc addon.lua): QuixoteShouldShutUp: Take an axe to Quixote's comms functions, if you don't like that sort of thing. (Drycoded, untested, likely to be unmaintained.) |
| 10:18.44 | Arrowmaster | but 98 > 95b > 95a |
| 10:18.49 | Lukian | wowguy, yeah wow runs really well under wine |
| 10:18.59 | wowguy | cool |
| 10:19.16 | Fin | OK the job was in 96-97 |
| 10:19.20 | wowguy | i'm just waiting for my new phoneline in my new place to pass the broadband linecheck |
| 10:19.21 | Fin | so it maybe it wasn't ME |
| 10:19.28 | wowguy | as soon as i have broadband i'll install ubuntu |
| 10:19.30 | Fin | well almost definitely it wasn't |
| 10:19.40 | Lukian | So should one use FreeRefills or BuyCrap? :D |
| 10:19.49 | Lukian | tidying up my addons |
| 10:19.50 | Arrowmaster | fin im guessing it was 95a |
| 10:20.03 | wowguy | i'd even to a full format and install ubuntu as opposed to a dual boot if i could be certain i could get wow to run under wine on the day i install ubuntu |
| 10:20.08 | wowguy | i don't want to be stuck not able to play wow |
| 10:20.38 | Lukian | wowguy, load the live cd and try it :p |
| 10:20.42 | Lukian | easy ^^ |
| 10:20.52 | wowguy | ya but i won't be able to install wow under wine with the live cd? |
| 10:20.55 | Fin | you're probably right... |
| 10:21.14 | Arrowmaster | you can run wine from a livecd |
| 10:21.28 | Arrowmaster | you have to mount your windows drive though to read wow from it |
| 10:21.45 | wowguy | ic |
| 10:22.04 | Lukian | wowguy, but you have wow on your hdd |
| 10:22.09 | wowguy | ya |
| 10:22.10 | wowguy | i do |
| 10:22.12 | Lukian | yeah what he said :p |
| 10:22.17 | wowguy | :) |
| 10:22.24 | wowguy | cool that's the way to go then |
| 10:22.27 | esteth | that'll be quite slow. Reading through NTFS will slow down WoW somewhat, if you play it from your windows drive |
| 10:22.43 | wowguy | get familiar with wow under wine from the live cd and then when i'm confident install ubuntu and delete windows entriely |
| 10:22.47 | esteth | If it works, you'll definately want to copy it across to the linux drive if you install it |
| 10:22.57 | wowguy | i only have one drive |
| 10:23.04 | wowguy | if it works i'll delete windows altogether tbh |
| 10:23.15 | wowguy | i tried using gpart |
| 10:23.27 | wowguy | to create a partition on the drive for linux but it didn't work |
| 10:23.27 | esteth | you can "partition" a drive so it looks like 2 drives. That's what i meant :) |
| 10:23.30 | wowguy | ya |
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| 10:23.39 | wowguy | but none of the apps to do that will work |
| 10:23.52 | Arrowmaster | youd need to use something else to make your ntfs partition smaller |
| 10:23.54 | wowguy | tried some windows guides on doing it from within windows control panel to and it didn't work |
| 10:23.58 | Lukian | resizing partitions is always tricky |
| 10:24.03 | wowguy | like a gpart live cd? |
| 10:24.04 | Lukian | usually commercial software |
| 10:24.05 | esteth | it might be that you're too full of hard drive space allready, or you're not shrinking your ntfs partition. |
| 10:24.34 | Arrowmaster | use something like partition magic boot cd to shrink ntfs partitions, thats what i do |
| 10:24.48 | esteth | I use the ubuntu liveCD :) |
| 10:24.49 | Arrowmaster | perty much gota use a commercial software |
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| 10:25.21 | esteth | ubuntu liveCD has gParted on it, which can resize NTFS, at least feisty and gutsy can, iirc |
| 10:25.26 | Fin | some of the new filesystems I've read about (and used for a bit) are finally fucking getting there |
| 10:25.27 | wowguy | cool |
| 10:25.29 | Fin | ZFS as impressive |
| 10:25.41 | Fin | s/as/was/ |
| 10:26.05 | Fin | confusing but impressive |
| 10:27.03 | Lukian | I'm using resier4 atm :) |
| 10:27.20 | Fin | what reason specifically? |
| 10:27.28 | Pucmel | hmmm zfs ? copy of advfs you mean ? |
| 10:27.33 | Pucmel | tru64 has it 10 years ago |
| 10:27.53 | esteth | I use ext3 personally, but if XFS could be shrunk i'd be on that |
| 10:28.07 | Arrowmaster | zfs was for solaris originally |
| 10:28.21 | Lukian | Fin, data integrity and on-the-fly compression |
| 10:28.45 | esteth | Isn't reiser on trial for something or other atm? |
| 10:28.47 | Fin | tru64... I think a lot can be said about that OS by the URL of its homepage on HP.com: http://h30097.www3.hp.com/ |
| 10:28.57 | cncfanatics | esteth, he is |
| 10:28.59 | Lukian | esteth, murdering his wife, sure :D |
| 10:29.03 | Lukian | no biggie ^^ |
| 10:29.06 | Thrae | Dammit, what's a word that starts with an M that stands for Gamer? |
| 10:29.08 | esteth | hehe. |
| 10:29.22 | Fin | multiplayer |
| 10:29.22 | wowguy | mmmm |
| 10:29.29 | Pucmel | well tru64 is dead indeed, bu it has almost everything ... before the compaq/dec/hp thingy |
| 10:29.49 | Thrae | "Maternal Online Multiplayer" doesn't sound right...hmm... |
| 10:29.54 | Pucmel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdvFS |
| 10:30.10 | Thrae | How about "Multiplayer Online Mother" or "Multiplayer Online Mom" |
| 10:30.11 | Pucmel | anyway zfs is nowhere near the production ready state :) |
| 10:30.22 | Pucmel | try to remove disk from zfs pool ... you cant :) |
| 10:30.44 | Fin | it's getting there |
| 10:30.51 | wowguy | "Muliplayer Online Milf" |
| 10:30.53 | Pucmel | yep |
| 10:30.58 | Fin | I worked at sun for a month, it was cool to see the guys there work with it |
| 10:30.58 | wowguy | in your endo :) |
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| 10:31.17 | Pucmel | sol11 maybe |
| 10:31.18 | Fin | Modern Day Gamers |
| 10:31.24 | Thrae | wowguy: I'm not sure I'm comfortable giving my mom a teeshirt with "Milf" ;) |
| 10:31.32 | Fin | do it! |
| 10:31.33 | wowguy | lol |
| 10:31.34 | Fin | fucking do it |
| 10:31.41 | Fin | oh man that would be a classic |
| 10:31.57 | wowguy | lots of moms i'm sure have no idea what it means |
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| 10:32.08 | wowguy | at leasts the moms in the movies i watch |
| 10:32.15 | Fin | GNU MILF 1.0 |
| 10:32.16 | wowguy | "what do you mean i'm a milf bradley"? |
| 10:32.17 | Thrae | My mom plays WoW. Hence the "Multiplayer Online" part. |
| 10:32.26 | wowguy | your mom plays wow? that's cool |
| 10:32.29 | wowguy | how old is she? |
| 10:32.53 | Thrae | She has also written an erotic novel, and has a few friends my age. She knows what "Milf" means. |
| 10:33.03 | wowguy | lol |
| 10:33.09 | wowguy | sounds like a very interesting woman |
| 10:33.14 | wowguy | have you read the novel? |
| 10:33.16 | Fin | you could always just make up a word and pretend that everyone else is using it |
| 10:33.29 | wowguy | like "proavtive" |
| 10:33.32 | Thrae | Well, let's see...I'm 26, so 26+15=41 |
| 10:33.33 | wowguy | *active |
| 10:33.38 | Fin | like, er, Mager, it comes from Gamer |
| 10:33.52 | Thrae | Hmmm, her main character is a Mage |
| 10:33.53 | Fin | Multiplayer Online Megastar |
| 10:33.54 | wowguy | your mom sounds like a bit of a cougar thrae :) |
| 10:34.24 | Fin | printing a t-shirt with megastar on it for your mum has got to be in the right direction |
| 10:35.02 | Fin | no? OK |
| 10:35.14 | wowguy | heh |
| 10:35.16 | Thrae | I agree, with risk of Oepidal Complex, that my mom is a Milf. I think she looks just a little older then me. |
| 10:35.29 | Fin | so you WOULD sleep with her |
| 10:35.36 | Lukian | Click2Cast is working alright, but I'm wondering if there's anything else to use to bind spells/etc to keybinds / mouseclicks |
| 10:35.37 | wowguy | Epidicus complex, no? |
| 10:35.41 | Thrae | No |
| 10:35.41 | Lukian | Any suggestions? |
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| 10:36.07 | Fin | SpellBinder |
| 10:36.11 | Fin | myKeyBindings2 |
| 10:36.14 | wowguy | i want a t-shirt with the picture i saw on the simpsons once with uncle sam reaching around the globe - and in capital letters "NO ONE CAN STOP US NOW" |
| 10:36.18 | Fin | clique? |
| 10:36.24 | Grum | Lukian: Clique? |
| 10:36.34 | Lukian | I didn't see clique in the wau list :o |
| 10:36.38 | Grum | its not WAU :) |
| 10:36.44 | Grum | but still the best =) |
| 10:36.51 | Fin | actually I don't see why anyone would want anything but myKeyBindings2 now, it even supports mouse wheel rolls |
| 10:36.54 | Lukian | I'll try it :) |
| 10:36.55 | mort | <3 clique |
| 10:37.08 | Grum | erm |
| 10:37.12 | Grum | it is not in WAU but it is ACE :) |
| 10:37.15 | Grum | or Dongle |
| 10:37.17 | Grum | or O.o |
| 10:37.22 | haste | clique uses Dongle |
| 10:37.25 | Arrowmaster | its dongle |
| 10:38.05 | Fisker- | my dick is dongle :O |
| 10:38.50 | haste | so it's so small that you have to attach a dongle? |
| 10:39.06 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:39.38 | Fisker- | i have to internet hate machine you now |
| 10:40.10 | Grum | anyhow, clique is teh best |
| 10:40.28 | wowguy | i passed a special needs school the other day that had a big sign outside that said "SLOW CHILDREN" |
| 10:40.29 | Fin | best what |
| 10:40.30 | wowguy | :( |
| 10:40.41 | Grum | just teh best! |
| 10:42.17 | Fin | yeah, I saw a sign outside B&Q saying "STAINLESS STEEL SINKS" |
| 10:42.22 | Fin | bit obvious, no |
| 10:42.44 | wowguy | :) |
| 10:42.49 | wowguy | IKEA opened in belfast |
| 10:42.53 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57407 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Only trigger Quixote_Party_Leaderboard_Update if it's not a new quest. |
| 10:43.20 | Fin | ... and in other news... |
| 10:43.28 | Grum | name a (video)player that can play directly from packed files please :D |
| 10:43.36 | wowguy | vlc maybe? |
| 10:43.40 | Fin | define packed file |
| 10:43.47 | Grum | rar/zip/tar.gz |
| 10:43.55 | Fin | with just a movie file inside it? |
| 10:43.59 | Grum | yup |
| 10:44.00 | Fin | what's the point of that? |
| 10:44.04 | Fin | they're already highly compressed |
| 10:44.09 | Grum | :\ |
| 10:44.09 | Fin | that's what codecs do |
| 10:44.13 | Grum | that is how stuff gets distributed |
| 10:44.18 | wowguy | when you download them they're often rarred |
| 10:44.23 | Grum | always, not often |
| 10:44.27 | Fin | try zipping a movie and seeing what the file sizes are |
| 10:44.29 | Grum | unless you get em from some crap torrent ;) |
| 10:44.36 | Grum | i know it doesnt matter filesize-wise |
| 10:44.38 | Fin | yeah, I had a big argument with some admins on a site who did these recently |
| 10:44.39 | Grum | stop arguing :) |
| 10:44.40 | Fin | fucking retards |
| 10:44.57 | wowguy | first rule of deaf club |
| 10:45.01 | wowguy | nobody hears about deaf club |
| 10:45.17 | Grum | the thing is, they are only 'packed' (without compression) so they can be moved with multiple parts |
| 10:45.21 | Lukian | omg Clique is soo easy to use |
| 10:45.28 | wowguy | what does it do lukian? |
| 10:45.30 | Grum | ;) |
| 10:45.38 | Fin | I tried to point out that raring a movie file up and splitting it into multiple parts was not necessary given the actually quite fucking advanced error checking built into the protocol, aaand... got flamed |
| 10:45.40 | Grum | it provides clickcasting |
| 10:45.44 | Fin | bastards |
| 10:45.54 | Grum | Fin: stop using torrents |
| 10:46.01 | Fin | no |
| 10:46.05 | Grum | in either case, i think i just found that VLC can do it |
| 10:46.06 | Lukian | Grum, but does it have keybinding support? |
| 10:46.14 | Grum | Lukian: humz good one |
| 10:46.18 | Grum | i think not :'( |
| 10:46.22 | Grum | but it is the best clickcasting one :( |
| 10:46.30 | Lukian | I keybind all my hunter aspects and traps |
| 10:46.33 | Grum | but keybinding can just be made by binding buttons and putting spells on it right? |
| 10:46.38 | Fin | why would you want to move a file in multiple parts? |
| 10:46.46 | Lukian | I keybind (healing/assist) spells |
| 10:46.53 | Grum | Fin: its called racing, some 'l33t punkass kids' do that |
| 10:46.54 | Lukian | mousebind* |
| 10:47.05 | Fin | racing? |
| 10:47.18 | Grum | yes, you download from torrents but that is not the source of the files |
| 10:47.58 | Fin | isn't that what bittorrent does? |
| 10:48.00 | Fin | as a protocol? |
| 10:48.06 | Grum | hehe |
| 10:48.07 | Grum | nevermind |
| 10:48.12 | Lukian | Grum, but I don't want to see the buttons/use buttons :p |
| 10:48.25 | Fin | I don't get it, is there something I'm being fick about? |
| 10:48.31 | Grum | Lukian: you dont have to see buttons to have keybinds for them (i think) |
| 10:48.39 | Grum | Fin: yes |
| 10:48.43 | Lukian | Grum, that's true |
| 10:48.55 | Grum | but explaining such a grey legal area is something i can do but not in here :) |
| 10:49.08 | Grum | some people might find it offensive/not so right |
| 10:49.20 | Fin | OK, it's an attempt to get around a loophole or something, fair enough |
| 10:49.26 | Grum | no its not |
| 10:49.34 | Grum | give me a whisper if you want it explained :) |
| 10:50.39 | Fin | if I have to |
| 10:51.14 | Lukian | Grum, yeah distribution of files in archived format is annoying |
| 10:51.28 | Arrowmaster | highly compressed files are still often packaged into rars and split into multiple files because theyre distrubutes via usenet |
| 10:51.33 | Lukian | because you need to extract the data and keep the originals (in order to share) :p |
| 10:51.53 | Fin | yes, Arrowmaster, that is the one case I can see it continuing to be useful |
| 10:52.25 | Arrowmaster | and its the torrent creators that arent unarchiving it |
| 10:52.32 | Thrae | Alright, I decided on M.O.M.M.A. -- Maternal Online Massive Multiplayer Addict |
| 10:52.33 | Arrowmaster | although sometimes thats a bonus |
| 10:52.33 | Ellipsis | so uh, I just ate 2lbs of mangos o.O |
| 10:52.47 | Grum | Arrowmaster: also wrong |
| 10:53.05 | Fin | however, as a standard practise of a website / community whose purpose is to help each other access quality media as a shared interest, usenet didn't really apply |
| 10:53.08 | Grum | usenet has its own system of handling splitting |
| 10:53.11 | Grum | called articles |
| 10:53.29 | Arrowmaster | theres been times ive pulled as many parts of a file off usenet then used a torrent of the entire group of files to finish it |
| 10:53.44 | Grum | use par2 files for that arrow |
| 10:53.44 | Fin | as a shared interest who were exclusively using bittorrent to share things among their community |
| 10:53.46 | Arrowmaster | Grum: you dont post more than 15mb at a time on usenet though |
| 10:53.52 | Grum | you do |
| 10:54.00 | Grum | some rar-parts are 20 50 or even 100m |
| 10:54.11 | Arrowmaster | i always see 15mb rars |
| 10:54.13 | Grum | depending on what you are posting |
| 10:56.04 | Arrowmaster | i think the last time i actually did that of using a torrent to finish off a usenet download was before par2 even existed |
| 10:56.32 | Arrowmaster | i remember when the original par was new |
| 11:01.19 | Fin | that's another thing that pissed me off about these .rar file splitting bastards |
| 11:01.29 | Fin | now, if you don't get part of your download, you're fucked |
| 11:01.41 | Fin | if you don't get part of a .avi download you can watch most of it |
| 11:01.56 | Fin | it's a lot harder to fix a missing .rar file |
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| 11:02.27 | Zariel | anyone have a link for '...' documentaion? |
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| 11:06.08 | wowguy | are there any mods that will allow you to communicate with the opposing faction? |
| 11:06.13 | wowguy | like if lol is bound to kek |
| 11:07.17 | chexsum | doing that is against tos |
| 11:07.39 | chexsum | its probably illegal to make the mod |
| 11:08.33 | wowguy | are you going to rat me out? :) |
| 11:12.07 | cncfanatics | Grum |
| 11:12.11 | cncfanatics | bug in routes |
| 11:12.48 | winkiller | is tehre any mail mod to mail multiple people? |
| 11:12.50 | cncfanatics | TSP.lua: 275: attempt to perform arithmetic on field "?" (a nil value) |
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| 11:25.17 | Matrix110 | winkiller there were several mods but none of them is working anymore since the mail change |
| 11:25.26 | winkiller | hmk thanks |
| 11:25.38 | winkiller | never seen one, although I read that CT should do it (back then) |
| 11:29.15 | winkiller | zmail maybe works I just heard |
| 11:29.31 | Matrix110 | ct mail mod never could do that |
| 11:29.54 | Matrix110 | they mostly had a name like GuildMailer and similiar:P |
| 11:30.25 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r57408 10Postal/Locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 11:30.25 | CIA-8 | Postal: |
| 11:30.25 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update. |
| 11:30.30 | Matrix110 | But Blizzard is so freaking awesome and sets a limit to send mails to your own fucking guildmembers even if you are the guild leader... |
| 11:32.10 | Fin | "ListKeeper is a straightforward mod designed to make it easy to keep a list of people wanting to join a group or raid. It's unobtrusive and simple to use." |
| 11:32.22 | Fin | is what it says on the tin |
| 11:34.18 | Grum | cncfanatics: how to reproduce it? |
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| 11:35.34 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:35.45 | cncfanatics | but, I had a path with all nodes in nagrand selected |
| 11:35.46 | Grum | did it break anything? |
| 11:35.50 | cncfanatics | and wanted to optimize it in the background |
| 11:35.52 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 11:35.56 | cncfanatics | lines on the minimap stopped drawing |
| 11:36.02 | cncfanatics | and I couldn't generate the path |
| 11:36.14 | Grum | prolly got stuck in a loop because of it |
| 11:36.14 | cncfanatics | I deleted the path, reloaded UI, recreated path, now its fine |
| 11:36.22 | Grum | not sure tbh |
| 11:36.33 | Grum | hard to debug unless the 'real' data is available :) |
| 11:37.12 | cncfanatics | ain't it just a simple nil error that u got to add a nil check for ? |
| 11:37.17 | Grum | nope |
| 11:37.26 | Grum | its an innerloop that should have a value |
| 11:38.22 | Fisker- | cncfanatics |
| 11:38.24 | Fisker- | i gotta pee |
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| 11:45.38 | CIA-8 | 03rewad * r57409 10WoWonid/ (Readme.txt WoWonid.toc level/WoWonid_lvl_16.lua): |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-8 | WoWonid: |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-8 | - level 16 added |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-8 | - merry x-mas @ all on #wowace |
| 11:48.27 | Fisker- | NO U Rewad |
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| 11:58.10 | Zariel | Is there any Documentation on the '...' args? |
| 12:00.03 | |Pixel| | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5 |
| 12:00.16 | |Pixel| | look for the various parts talking about "vararg" |
| 12:03.45 | thul | marry xmas |
| 12:03.49 | Fisker- | no u |
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| 12:06.39 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: |
| 12:06.41 | Xinhuan | line 275 is |
| 12:06.43 | Xinhuan | local x2, y2 = (nodes[j] % 10001)/10000, floor(nodes[j] / 10001)/10000; |
| 12:06.51 | Xinhuan | so clearly j is the nil value here |
| 12:07.10 | Xinhuan | j is |
| 12:07.11 | Xinhuan | for j = i+1, numNodes do |
| 12:07.20 | Xinhuan | inside the loop |
| 12:07.20 | Xinhuan | for i = 1, numNodes do |
| 12:07.33 | Xinhuan | and local numNodes = #nodes; |
| 12:07.43 | Xinhuan | so the input data is errorneous |
| 12:07.58 | Xinhuan | the table input has a hole in it apparently |
| 12:08.48 | Ellipsis | what's this now? cncfanatics has been doing dirty things with table inputs? |
| 12:08.52 | Xinhuan | check your wtf folder _routes sv file? ;) |
| 12:10.02 | Fisker- | one does not simply not kill Ellipsis |
| 12:10.09 | Ellipsis | rahh |
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| 12:18.13 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, you should add a nil check for j also |
| 12:18.20 | cncfanatics | and just break out if j is nil |
| 12:18.27 | cncfanatics | that way whole routes won't crash :) |
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| 12:25.40 | Xinhuan | the algorithm isn't supposed to check for te validity of data ~_~ |
| 12:25.50 | Xinhuan | since its written for speed |
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| 12:29.19 | cncfanatics | check the validity when creating the path maybe |
| 12:29.31 | cncfanatics | so it won't make the optimization longer |
| 12:30.14 | Xinhuan | the path is checked for validity in a locally created table... kinda |
| 12:30.20 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 12:30.21 | purl | 2007.12.24 12:30:21 GMT, or the fourth dimension |
| 12:30.23 | Xinhuan | if in the process of creating a new route, something fails |
| 12:30.28 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all, merry christmas :) |
| 12:30.30 | Xinhuan | the db isn't affected |
| 12:30.46 | Xinhuan | since only if its successful, then we commit the table to the sv db |
| 12:30.55 | Xinhuan | and its commited by deep table copying |
| 12:32.37 | Fin | oh yeah baby |
| 12:32.40 | Fin | that's what I'm talking about |
| 12:32.56 | Fin | Opera 9.4 -> 9.5 is the shit |
| 12:34.01 | Zariel | I have a slash command where it parses itemlinks and adds them to a table, how can i add multiple items from one slash command? |
| 12:35.11 | Fin | for item in string.gmatch(slashcmd, '(%w+)') do print your mum can has cheezelol |
| 12:35.31 | Zariel | danke |
| 12:35.40 | Fin | bitte |
| 12:36.35 | Fin | man they've fixed a lot of stuff with the JS engine |
| 12:36.49 | cncfanatics | firefox works fine Fin |
| 12:37.09 | Fin | I disagree |
| 12:37.25 | Fin | anyway, why have good, when you can have the best? |
| 12:37.54 | [SW]Dodge | lol "danke" und "bitte" =D |
| 12:38.03 | cncfanatics | how is opera better then firefox ? |
| 12:38.09 | cncfanatics | might use it if thats the case :o |
| 12:38.24 | Zariel | no mem leak |
| 12:38.41 | Fin | it's waaaay faster |
| 12:38.53 | Fin | it's the fastest browser I've ever used and has been for years |
| 12:39.07 | Fin | which is bad in away, because it uses a lot of resources if you have them |
| 12:39.13 | Fin | but it's very lightweight inside |
| 12:39.21 | Fin | it's just, if the resources are there, it uses them |
| 12:39.22 | Fin | anyway |
| 12:39.31 | Fin | I'm defending a point you haven't even made yet |
| 12:40.15 | cncfanatics | firefox makes my WoW slow down if its loading something in the background |
| 12:40.19 | cncfanatics | which pisses me off greatly |
| 12:40.23 | cncfanatics | does that happen with opera ? |
| 12:41.16 | Fisker- | oooh look |
| 12:41.20 | Fisker- | cncfanatics is under the mistletoe |
| 12:41.31 | cncfanatics | no he's not |
| 12:41.33 | cncfanatics | hands off Fisker- |
| 12:41.42 | Fin | it's faster, the more configurable, easier to customise, more reliable - crashes a lot less - has had features in it for years and years now that Firefox users rant and rave about ("tabs" - that was just the page bar; profiles; sessions; "reload previous window setup after a crash"; etc)) |
| 12:41.44 | Fisker- | :( |
| 12:41.47 | Fin | and |
| 12:41.55 | Fin | it's just added a bunch of new things that as far as I know aren't in other browsers |
| 12:42.00 | cncfanatics | Fin, linky ? |
| 12:42.02 | cncfanatics | linux linky |
| 12:42.06 | Graawr | yeah and opera looks like shit aswell |
| 12:42.07 | Graawr | so |
| 12:42.09 | Fin | (oh, yeah, mouse gestures, voice support, etc.) |
| 12:42.10 | Graawr | looks > features |
| 12:42.21 | Fin | new features: synchronised bookmarks, sessions, and mail |
| 12:42.28 | Fisker- | then change the look Graawr |
| 12:42.32 | Fin | opera looks like shit? |
| 12:42.33 | Fin | eh? |
| 12:42.38 | Fin | it looks like how you want mate |
| 12:42.56 | Fin | I think they've implemented this radical new technology called "skins" as well! |
| 12:42.57 | Fin | madness |
| 12:43.00 | Fisker- | But don't worry Fin |
| 12:43.03 | Graawr | I am not talking about skins? |
| 12:43.08 | Fin | no, I am |
| 12:43.09 | Fin | duh |
| 12:43.14 | Graawr | Take a look at the submit input buttons, doh? |
| 12:43.14 | Fisker- | Firefox people are all about "THIS IS TEH BEST BROWSER EVER!1" |
| 12:43.19 | Graawr | I don't like how they look :) |
| 12:43.20 | Fisker- | when in truth it's not much better than IE |
| 12:43.26 | Fisker- | Infact it IS IE |
| 12:43.44 | cncfanatics | I use ff cuz its the best I knew about |
| 12:43.46 | cncfanatics | now lets try opera |
| 12:43.49 | Graawr | Ofc it is, people use FF because it aint so bitchy about html / css restrictions |
| 12:43.59 | Fisker- | It's Fx |
| 12:44.02 | Fin | aiee! man I WISH there was some... some sort of, I don't know, way of defining the style of the input buttons |
| 12:44.10 | Fin | fuck, if only they'd thought of that! |
| 12:44.14 | Fin | :P |
| 12:44.27 | Fin | OK, evangelism over! I shall now return to my rock |
| 12:44.27 | Fisker- | and web"standards" is a problem between the developer and Microsoft, not the developer and the user |
| 12:44.30 | Graawr | Fin, we all have our priorities and preferences? |
| 12:45.06 | Fisker- | Not to mention that Opera IS the browser that complies best with W3C |
| 12:45.10 | cncfanatics | standards and microsoft don't fit into a single phrase |
| 12:45.16 | Fin | PS: you. can. change. the. style. of. input. buttons. |
| 12:45.24 | Fisker- | W3C isn't standards by any legal means |
| 12:45.32 | Fisker- | as such noone has to follow them |
| 12:45.37 | Graawr | Fisker-, in what ways? Name an example |
| 12:46.04 | Xinhuan | standards, is when microsoft tries to implement something |
| 12:46.24 | cncfanatics | you realize standards are nearly never legaly inforced, right Fisker- ? |
| 12:46.39 | Fisker- | right |
| 12:46.43 | cncfanatics | Fin |
| 12:46.48 | cncfanatics | can I import my firefox bookmarks ? :p |
| 12:46.57 | Fisker- | I don't know about AMERIKKKKA |
| 12:47.02 | Fisker- | but they atleast are here |
| 12:47.46 | Fisker- | one does not simply make a bottle that does not comply with the ISO and put it on the market |
| 12:48.44 | Graawr | Cant be arsed with any more of this, omg my browser wins over yours lolololo, I was happy with IE until FF2 and I am gonna be happy with FF2 for a long time until they do something I dont lik |
| 12:48.51 | cncfanatics | I'm talking about programming standards Fisker- |
| 12:49.04 | Fisker- | That's because they are not usually standards |
| 12:49.09 | Fisker- | W3C are not standards |
| 12:49.15 | Zicon | You are all so cute. |
| 12:49.26 | Graawr | Yes they are, and you're free to follow them or not |
| 12:49.30 | Graawr | Just like any other standard |
| 12:49.35 | Fisker- | no |
| 12:49.45 | Graawr | w3c is a consortium for the world wide web |
| 12:49.56 | Fin | you're right Graawr, it's a boring endless argument. but you are very much contributing to it by complaining about the style of input buttons in one vs. another. |
| 12:49.57 | Graawr | they put down standards on web development, follow or not |
| 12:50.10 | Fin | rock! |
| 12:50.38 | Graawr | Fin you are very entertaining by your fanatic belief in something that you only share with a very small % of the channel, if not even the entire world population |
| 12:50.55 | Graawr | So no hush, at let me have my opinion? |
| 12:51.00 | Fin | what? |
| 12:51.26 | Graawr | I am not imposing my opinion on you so I'd appreciate if you stopped bitching and contributed in someway to the discussion without arguement less ranting |
| 12:51.37 | Fin | ooh are you upset? I didn't mean to upset you. |
| 12:51.54 | Fin | what ranting? |
| 12:51.58 | Graawr | im not upset, it's christmas |
| 12:52.04 | Graawr | "you're right Graawr, it's a boring endless argument. but you are very much contributing to it by complaining about the style of input buttons in one vs. another." |
| 12:52.17 | cncfanatics | no flash on opera ? Fin |
| 12:52.19 | Xinhuan | anyone use cowtip here, is the _herb/mine still broken with the fade option? |
| 12:52.43 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO |
| 12:52.57 | Fin | cncfanatics: I don't actually *work* for Opera :) but yes, you can import marks, and yes, of course there's flash, just not by default |
| 12:52.59 | Fisker- | While ISO defines itself as a non-governmental organization, its ability to set standards that often become law, either through treaties or national standards, makes it more powerful than most non-governmental organizations. In practice, ISO acts as a consortium with strong links to governments |
| 12:53.04 | Fisker- | HOLY SHIT IS THAT SUM CP? |
| 12:53.07 | Graawr | Fisker |
| 12:53.14 | Graawr | I am free to follow the ISO like I please |
| 12:53.18 | Graawr | as a private citizen |
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| 12:53.32 | Fisker- | Probably not |
| 12:53.35 | Graawr | goverments only impose it on public instances |
| 12:53.39 | Graawr | like hospitals |
| 12:53.43 | Fisker- | lol |
| 12:53.45 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:53.49 | Graawr | LOL YEAH I AM RIGHT |
| 12:53.49 | Fisker- | i only follow the law as i please |
| 12:53.52 | Graawr | No |
| 12:53.55 | Graawr | The laws DONT say |
| 12:53.56 | Fisker- | that law is only for public institutions |
| 12:53.58 | Graawr | that everyone has to use the ISO |
| 12:54.00 | Fisker- | not for private people |
| 12:54.00 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 12:54.04 | Fisker- | no |
| 12:54.05 | Graawr | the laws STATE That public instances has to use them |
| 12:54.17 | Fisker- | But the law might say "To make something it has to follow proper ISO specificatiosn" |
| 12:54.32 | Fisker- | And that counts for citizens, companies, and anything else |
| 12:54.48 | Graawr | not in the european union |
| 12:54.58 | Graawr | Ive written a paper on this |
| 12:55.00 | Fisker- | The european union does not decide local law |
| 12:55.06 | Graawr | Hahahahaha |
| 12:55.09 | Graawr | HAR HAR HAR |
| 12:55.12 | Graawr | You're funny |
| 12:55.14 | Graawr | Learn your stuff |
| 12:55.15 | Fisker- | no you are |
| 12:55.16 | Fisker- | no |
| 12:55.18 | Fisker- | learn YOUR stuff |
| 12:55.27 | Fin | sorry Graawr, but - and take a deep breath - a) that wasn't a rant; b) you just complained about being fed up of these stupid arguments, after making a stupid arguemnt, I mean come on; c) let's be friends! browsers are just thing we use, who cares who likes that? :) |
| 12:55.43 | Graawr | There are already lots of acts in the EU who impose "local" laws or effect locals |
| 12:55.50 | Wogroipl | I like opera |
| 12:55.51 | Fin | hey, so |
| 12:55.52 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 12:56.01 | Fin | I was watching this great australian comedy show called Chaser |
| 12:56.02 | Fisker- | But that does not mean that a country cannot set local laws as they please |
| 12:56.08 | Fin | and they made a Eulogy song |
| 12:56.16 | Fin | it's awesome |
| 12:56.35 | Graawr | But no law in the EU says that you have to use the ISO standards, it says that public instances, like hospitals HAS too because of the interoperability, if for example the police department in another country needs the information |
| 12:56.36 | Fin | http://youtube.com/watch?v=hLVsIpejFgM |
| 12:56.38 | Graawr | Thats just a fact |
| 12:56.42 | Fin | Indy might like this actually |
| 12:56.46 | Graawr | and no law in an EU country says so |
| 12:56.48 | Fisker- | that doesn't matter Graawr |
| 12:57.18 | Fisker- | It only matters if there's any EU Legislation that says "You cannot use standard published by the ISO" |
| 12:57.29 | Fisker- | I doubt there exists such law |
| 12:57.57 | Fisker- | That there exist a law to govern a minimum amount of compliance does not mean that local countries do not have laws to govern a maximum amount of compliance |
| 12:58.12 | Matrix110 | about what the hell are you actually bitching? |
| 12:58.21 | Fisker- | Matrix110 standards |
| 12:58.33 | cncfanatics | so FIsker- |
| 12:58.35 | cncfanatics | according to you |
| 12:58.41 | cncfanatics | if the EU doesn't say we may not use the ISO standards |
| 12:58.44 | cncfanatics | then we HAVE to use em ? |
| 12:59.23 | Fisker- | Graawr claims that because EU has a law that ensures public institutions have the same set of standards, that this may only be for public institutions and no other law may make it cover more than that |
| 13:00.05 | Fin | oh that song is just so fucking good |
| 13:00.08 | Graawr | No |
| 13:00.09 | Fin | classic |
| 13:00.19 | Graawr | I claim that, my country Denmark has it |
| 13:00.25 | Fisker- | cncfanatics no, i was expecting other countries to have any kind of sane legislation |
| 13:00.32 | Matrix110 | Well it would be good if public institutions would follow the same standards atleast :P |
| 13:00.40 | Matrix110 | but i highly doubt that every country has that |
| 13:00.42 | Graawr | The only times i mentioned the EU was when i said that no country has a law that says private persons had to use the ISO :) |
| 13:01.05 | Fisker- | Which is besides the point |
| 13:01.27 | Fisker- | Microsoft or any other company is not a "private person" |
| 13:01.39 | Graawr | They have the same legal conditions |
| 13:02.00 | Graawr | :] |
| 13:02.20 | Fisker- | Not exactly no |
| 13:02.24 | Matrix110 | Some basic standards are enforced though but not really that many |
| 13:02.34 | Graawr | ITS the same basic legal standpoint |
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| 13:02.53 | Graawr | except you gain some perks and lose some perks when you doing your stuff from a company instance |
| 13:02.56 | Graawr | no big deal when it comes to laws |
| 13:03.19 | Graawr | lets just refer to them as public instances vs private instances |
| 13:03.29 | Fisker- | that would be invalid |
| 13:03.55 | cncfanatics | stop the QQ |
| 13:03.58 | cncfanatics | its christmas eve |
| 13:04.09 | Fisker- | merry fucking christmas then |
| 13:04.10 | Fisker- | :D |
| 13:04.18 | Graawr | Point is, if I want, if FF wants too, if MS wants too then we could all screw the ISO and the W3C :p |
| 13:04.35 | Graawr | But the hospital down the street, in Denmark, would have to use a special standard |
| 13:04.53 | Graawr | And thats how it is in denmark |
| 13:04.54 | Fisker- | It's wrong |
| 13:04.56 | Fisker- | no |
| 13:05.02 | Firelemming | hi all, im working with the ace comm lib, but some how i cant send a comm message to my self, is that intended? it would realy help if i can test it with myself |
| 13:05.07 | Fisker- | They can screw the ISO as long as it's not any kind of released product |
| 13:05.15 | Fisker- | i.e. for internal use |
| 13:05.32 | Fisker- | But there are certain standards they HAVE to adhere to if they want to release a product |
| 13:05.34 | Graawr | Fisker-, its a matter of 3 weeks ago since i saw one of our ministers talk about how they just added another standard to the requirement |
| 13:05.42 | Graawr | ye sure fisker |
| 13:05.52 | Graawr | im sure that the goverment dont give a crap about internal use |
| 13:05.57 | Graawr | they can write with pen and paper internally |
| 13:06.03 | Graawr | who would know anyways |
| 13:06.55 | Fisker- | i have to go though |
| 13:07.06 | Fisker- | Merry christmas |
| 13:07.11 | Graawr | bb :) have a good evening |
| 13:08.06 | cncfanatics | YAY |
| 13:08.09 | cncfanatics | THE TROLL IS GONE |
| 13:08.11 | cncfanatics | ~party |
| 13:08.11 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 13:09.24 | cncfanatics | :o, never saw that one |
| 13:11.58 | Firelemming | anybody got a idea why i cant use AceComms to whisper something to my self? |
| 13:19.11 | Gngsk | why would you need to ues AceComm? |
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| 14:27.44 | Pkekyo| | merry christmas and stuff |
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| 14:37.04 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo| ! , you use linux ? |
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| 14:47.01 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: not anymore...still got it installed though...why? |
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| 14:51.25 | chexsum | ive spent 3 yrs in linuxhelp irc if you need a hand with it :P |
| 14:52.04 | chexsum | gotta get back into it soon since windows sux |
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| 14:58.29 | cncfanatics | I'm reinstalling my OS |
| 14:58.40 | cncfanatics | just wondering what distrib of linux to take, chexsum, Pkekyo| |
| 14:59.58 | chexsum | ubuntu 7.10 |
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| 15:00.25 | chexsum | debianbased so it rocks |
| 15:01.04 | Superfly1 | up to you |
| 15:01.22 | Superfly1 | i dont like the package management in debian |
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| 15:02.01 | chexsum | youre crazy if you prefer rpm and insane if you prefer source |
| 15:02.29 | cncfanatics | I do like pure debian a lot |
| 15:02.41 | cncfanatics | chexsum, what are the advantages of ubuntu over debian ? (and disadvantages) |
| 15:03.01 | chexsum | debian has stricter packaging policies |
| 15:03.10 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: ubuntu is great imo :) |
| 15:03.16 | chexsum | it taes a longer time between releases of debian |
| 15:03.25 | cncfanatics | I'm using unstable anyway |
| 15:03.27 | cncfanatics | so not really my problem |
| 15:03.44 | chexsum | even unstable is old software |
| 15:03.52 | cncfanatics | true |
| 15:04.00 | cncfanatics | let me check ubuntu webby |
| 15:04.00 | chexsum | i used to run testing |
| 15:04.11 | chexsum | ubuntu is like sane testing |
| 15:04.18 | cncfanatics | there is also an unstable tree in ubuntu I guess ? |
| 15:04.21 | cncfanatics | and a testing tree, how are they ? |
| 15:04.38 | chexsum | no |
| 15:04.59 | chexsum | their releases are well tested |
| 15:05.00 | cncfanatics | hmmm, weird, so its old software too then ? :/ |
| 15:05.18 | chexsum | its only slightly old |
| 15:05.24 | cncfanatics | the debian unstable tree is only a few weeks late these days |
| 15:05.24 | chexsum | a few months at most |
| 15:06.01 | cncfanatics | whats the advantage over deb unstable then ? |
| 15:06.02 | chexsum | a few months before release itll start becoming obsolete :P |
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| 15:06.40 | chexsum | they provide a better desktop |
| 15:06.48 | cncfanatics | I'm fine with my lil gnome -.- |
| 15:06.52 | cncfanatics | what does it provide ? |
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| 15:07.21 | chexsum | well-tested versions of the latest programs that are popular |
| 15:07.46 | esteth | Anyone know where to get fubar_moneyfu for fubar3? |
| 15:07.54 | Pucmel | and obsolete .. if you follow stable branch :) |
| 15:08.13 | cncfanatics | I just don't get why I would want ubuntu over debian :p |
| 15:08.27 | cncfanatics | if I really need the latest progs I can always add their apt repos to my apt list |
| 15:08.28 | chexsum | they release more often |
| 15:08.46 | chexsum | when debians ready to release it takes months to stabilize |
| 15:08.56 | Pucmel | hmm who cares about linux releases anyway ? |
| 15:09.01 | Pucmel | you can add whatever package you want |
| 15:09.02 | chexsum | and by then youll want testing again |
| 15:09.02 | esteth | me :) |
| 15:09.04 | Pucmel | whatever version |
| 15:09.09 | Pucmel | so whats the deal with releases ? |
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| 15:09.54 | chexsum | ubuntu release = every 6 months |
| 15:10.05 | chexsum | debian has 3 reeleases iirc |
| 15:10.07 | cncfanatics | debian release = every eh, few years :) |
| 15:10.14 | chexsum | thats the difference |
| 15:10.16 | cncfanatics | I like my debian sid, updated quite often |
| 15:10.19 | esteth | march / october is the regular ubuntu release targets |
| 15:10.27 | Pucmel | release release .. you have workstation ... keep it up to date .. and work |
| 15:10.31 | Pucmel | dont fool around with releases :) |
| 15:10.37 | cncfanatics | I think I'll keep my debian sid :) |
| 15:10.47 | Firelemming | hi all, im trying to use the AceComm Libary, but my problem is that i cant test it out on my own, i use the WHISPER option and set it to myself but it doesnt work. anybody got a idea how i can make it work? |
| 15:11.55 | chexsum | to be running the latest stuff as desktop run a freebsd firewall and stick debian testing behind it - once in a while testing might die though :P |
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| 15:12.36 | chexsum | fbsd > linux when it comes to security ;) |
| 15:13.18 | cncfanatics | I never had my debian box die on me :o |
| 15:13.21 | cncfanatics | even in unstable :p |
| 15:13.30 | chexsum | unstable != testing |
| 15:13.41 | chexsum | and unstable is old software |
| 15:14.22 | cncfanatics | debian unstable is software usualy 2-3 weeks late |
| 15:14.25 | cncfanatics | thats old ? |
| 15:14.44 | cncfanatics | testing is usualy slightly older I guess (never used testing) |
| 15:14.54 | chexsum | i used to run testing and mozilla nightly builds - once in a while i had to resintall lol |
| 15:15.27 | cncfanatics | testing is suposed to be more stable then unstable ^^ |
| 15:15.28 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 15:15.51 | chexsum | gentoo is really good for keeping up to date but you need to know what youre doing to run it |
| 15:16.09 | cncfanatics | never used gentoo |
| 15:16.14 | cncfanatics | I heard it was a mess :p |
| 15:16.22 | chexsum | youd be safer with ubuntu though and youd have the latest stuff |
| 15:16.50 | cncfanatics | think I'll go for debian again :) |
| 15:17.28 | esteth | no-one knows where i can grab moneyfu for fubar3? |
| 15:17.37 | chexsum | bleh |
| 15:18.17 | chexsum | unstable with some testing packages isnt bad |
| 15:18.25 | chexsum | its not secure though |
| 15:18.31 | cncfanatics | this is a desktop system |
| 15:18.38 | Brunera | debian is stable which means that it will always work |
| 15:18.53 | chexsum | it wont always work! |
| 15:18.59 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.01 | Firelemming | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.11 | cncfanatics | well , I never had debian stable crash on me though, I must admit that |
| 15:19.15 | chexsum | you must have missed the times they removed packages from testing because they broke |
| 15:19.18 | Brunera | if you are a retard and dont know what your doing, maby it wont work |
| 15:19.49 | cncfanatics | Brunera, there are broken fglrx drivers in the unstable tree |
| 15:19.59 | cncfanatics | and there are also plenty of other broken stuff in unstable probably :p |
| 15:20.29 | chexsum | unstable wouldnt work on my 1mnth old system |
| 15:20.33 | chexsum | id guarantee it |
| 15:20.41 | cncfanatics | it'd probably work |
| 15:20.46 | cncfanatics | ati's fault for breaking fglrx actualy |
| 15:20.49 | chexsum | ubuntu is fine |
| 15:21.14 | Brunera | just installed ubuntu and wow worked the second after i installed wine |
| 15:21.24 | chexsum | testing would be fine too but i got sick of its problems ages ago |
| 15:21.55 | cncfanatics | Brunera, same for me on debian :p |
| 15:22.21 | chexsum | buying fraps is whats stopping me from deleting windows atm lol |
| 15:22.32 | chexsum | i need to get my moneys worth first |
| 15:22.37 | Pucmel | vmware ? |
| 15:22.45 | chexsum | nah thats more money |
| 15:22.56 | Pucmel | vmware-server / player is free |
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| 15:30.26 | Firelemming | does anybody know why i cant use AceComms to use the addon channel to send a message to myself? |
| 15:31.02 | Droolio | if you want to debug in that way, you should use the whisper distribution |
| 15:31.16 | Droolio | AceComm blocks your own messages for obvious reasons |
| 15:31.32 | Droolio | (except for whisper) |
| 15:31.36 | Firelemming | well i use the WHISPER option but i dont recieve them |
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| 15:32.18 | Firelemming | or cant i send it twice? guild channel and whisper, will he block both? |
| 15:32.58 | Droolio | you should be able to do that |
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| 15:34.05 | Firelemming | do i have to set the registercomm also WHISPER? |
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| 15:34.35 | Droolio | hmm i believe so yea |
| 15:34.54 | Firelemming | YEAH, that was it! |
| 15:34.58 | Droolio | :) |
| 15:35.02 | Firelemming | thank you very much |
| 15:35.10 | Droolio | np |
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| 16:08.41 | purl | hmm... time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2007.12.24 16:08:41 GMT |
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| 16:14.56 | Osstia | anyone here know wht SCT would not be showing my damage spells? |
| 16:15.27 | Osstia | I have gone into the options and verified it should, as well as reset it to defaults |
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| 16:20.56 | Firelemming | there are addons that saves what you have on the bank so that you can view it everywhere you are, is there also something like that for the guildvault? |
| 16:21.25 | cncfanatics | Firelemming, that wouldn't be reliable for guildvault |
| 16:21.32 | cncfanatics | as other people can change the contents it would be rather obsolete |
| 16:21.59 | Firelemming | i know, let me explain it more |
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| 16:22.33 | Polarina | Firelemming: You don't even have to visit the bank for a addon to know what you have in the bank. |
| 16:22.37 | Firelemming | i have a bank alt that has a guildvault, but my main is a in a different guild, so i would like to see what MY guildvault contains |
| 16:23.14 | cncfanatics | Polarina, you don't ? |
| 16:23.22 | Polarina | cncfanatics: No. |
| 16:23.24 | Osstia | thats news to me |
| 16:23.25 | cncfanatics | I thought its contents were hidden the hard way till you talked to the bank npc |
| 16:23.34 | Polarina | cncfanatics: It isn't. |
| 16:23.52 | Firelemming | wierd, i use bagnon atm to view my bank contents |
| 16:24.03 | cncfanatics | Polarina, I'm 90% sure that all bank functions don't return shit except if you are at a bank npc |
| 16:24.13 | Osstia | but is it realtime? or a chaced version of what was there the last time you opened? |
| 16:24.26 | Osstia | s/chaced/cached/ |
| 16:24.43 | Firelemming | cached ofc |
| 16:25.41 | Polarina | cncfanatics: local bank_items = { }; for i = 1, 40000 do bank_items[i] = GetItemCount(i, true) - GetItemCount(i); end |
| 16:25.45 | Polarina | Where i is the itemid. |
| 16:25.51 | cncfanatics | I can't run WoW atm |
| 16:26.05 | Polarina | And that code is realtime. :) |
| 16:26.20 | cncfanatics | since when is GetItemCount for the ban ? |
| 16:26.21 | cncfanatics | bank* |
| 16:26.30 | stavmar | Firelemming: Look at Xinhuan's BankItems mod, it will meet your needs with multiple guild, it totally rocks for that function |
| 16:26.41 | Polarina | cncfanatics: A long time ago. |
| 16:26.53 | Firelemming | stavmar does that also work with guildvaults? |
| 16:27.01 | Xinhuan | Firelemming: yes ;p |
| 16:27.02 | Fin | BankItems rocks my world |
| 16:27.03 | stavmar | ABSOLUTELY! |
| 16:27.03 | cncfanatics | wait, ok, you have an arg in GetItemCount for the bank |
| 16:27.03 | Polarina | cncfanatics: It works for the auction house too since 2.3. |
| 16:27.12 | cncfanatics | but can you loop through every bank slot and see its content ? |
| 16:27.12 | Firelemming | ok ill check it out then :) |
| 16:27.17 | stavmar | BankItems is the BEST bank mod inventory mod in my opinion |
| 16:27.39 | Polarina | cncfanatics: You can't see in what bag in the bank it's stored, but you can see what's inside the bank without visiting it. |
| 16:27.48 | stavmar | you can turn on and off which guildvaults you want to follow which is a great feature |
| 16:28.11 | Firelemming | its in the WAU right? |
| 16:28.12 | Xinhuan | that's like a hack Polarina |
| 16:28.18 | stavmar | Firelemming: yes it is |
| 16:28.22 | Xinhuan | i'll do a bit of testing on that one to see how it works |
| 16:28.26 | stavmar | and get teh FuBar plugin as well |
| 16:28.27 | Polarina | Xinhuan: That ability have been there for a while now. |
| 16:28.33 | Firelemming | fubar <3 |
| 16:28.35 | Fin | Xinhuan: the one thing BankItems could do with is the mail tracking feature from Bagnon (when you send mail to an alt, it knows about it, and includes it in the total (eg, "Fin: 2 (1 bank, 1 mail)") |
| 16:28.38 | Xinhuan | ya but does it work straight on logging in? |
| 16:28.45 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Try it on a Skinning Knife. (Item ID: 7005) |
| 16:28.46 | Xinhuan | before you visit your bank that is |
| 16:28.46 | cncfanatics | Polarina, so you loop through every item ingame, and check how much are in bags + bank |
| 16:28.49 | cncfanatics | thats a hack indeed :p |
| 16:28.49 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Yes. |
| 16:28.53 | Fin | the multiple guild banks thing was really surprising but it's so cool |
| 16:28.58 | Fin | it's perfect for me :) |
| 16:29.01 | stavmar | Fin i thought it did that already witht he sanity functioanlity |
| 16:29.15 | Xinhuan | so you're saying the game client knows whats in your bank hmm |
| 16:29.21 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Yes. |
| 16:29.22 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, it does for sure |
| 16:29.28 | cncfanatics | but we can't access it reliably, as I said |
| 16:29.34 | Fin | honestly, I think everyone with a bank alt should get it to start a guild for yourself - 100g for 100 banks lots is a bargain |
| 16:29.50 | stavmar | fin agreed |
| 16:29.52 | Fin | stavmar: I shall go back and verify my claim, then! |
| 16:30.05 | Firelemming | agreed fin |
| 16:30.15 | Xinhuan | that GetItemCount could simplify part of my code i think hmm |
| 16:30.18 | cncfanatics | Polarina, any nonhackish way to access the bank when not at the npc ? |
| 16:30.29 | cncfanatics | I mean, actualy ACCESS the bank |
| 16:30.29 | stavmar | Xinhuan: has postal been updated to include the ability to select a single item to open with a package of items in teh mail? |
| 16:30.37 | Polarina | cncfanatics: This is a access to the bank! |
| 16:30.46 | Xinhuan | what do you mean stavmar |
| 16:30.59 | cncfanatics | Polarina, no it ain't |
| 16:31.01 | Polarina | cncfanatics: Of course you can't deposit, withdraw items from the bank while not at the bank NPC. |
| 16:31.05 | cncfanatics | I can't see the exact content of every single bank slot I have |
| 16:31.13 | stavmar | so bulkmailInbox allows me to withdraw items within in a package of items, does postal offer this? |
| 16:31.18 | cncfanatics | Polarina, using your method, how do I see whats in the main tab of the bank, in slot 15 ? |
| 16:31.26 | Fin | only while you're at the bank itself, stavmar |
| 16:31.31 | Polarina | cncfanatics: You can only with that code see what is in your bank, not *where* in the bank it is. |
| 16:31.34 | Xinhuan | what would you need this stavmar? |
| 16:31.35 | Fin | or mailbox, sorry |
| 16:31.36 | Fin | duh |
| 16:31.39 | cncfanatics | Polarina, then you don't access the banj |
| 16:31.40 | Fin | they're both... things |
| 16:31.42 | Xinhuan | you can just open the mail and click on the item? |
| 16:31.43 | cncfanatics | you just derive whats in it :) |
| 16:31.48 | Fin | easy mistake to make |
| 16:31.49 | Polarina | cncfanatics: But you know what's in it. |
| 16:31.56 | cncfanatics | thats not the point :p |
| 16:31.59 | Xinhuan | open as in read |
| 16:32.12 | RLD_osx | all you can do is cache it for review when not at an NPC |
| 16:32.13 | Fin | that would be nice |
| 16:32.14 | Birdemani | so, i think either the quixote or babble changes are broken |
| 16:32.23 | Birdemani | just got spammed with about 200 errors on log in |
| 16:32.28 | Fin | I send myself notes between alts all the time |
| 16:32.36 | Fin | to remind myself what I need to send from which alt to where |
| 16:32.41 | stavmar | Xinhuan: for instance i send a 5 items to my bank alt or any alt, I only want to withdraw 3 of the 5 items in that same package and leave the other 2 in the box in order to leave the rest in teh mailbox as to not take up additional space |
| 16:33.06 | cncfanatics | stavmar, you shouldn't really use the bulk open then ? |
| 16:33.11 | cncfanatics | but just open the main independantly :p |
| 16:33.18 | thul | what is the best warlock leveling build? :-P |
| 16:33.18 | Xinhuan | what you do is you open the mail personally, and click on 3 of the 5 items you want to withdraw, exactly as though you don't have any mail addon installed at all. |
| 16:33.28 | Fin | affliction |
| 16:33.29 | stavmar | well bulk allows me to select exactly which items i want to place in my bag |
| 16:33.35 | Fin | +thul: |
| 16:33.44 | Xinhuan | selecting is exactly the same as clicking them? |
| 16:33.49 | Xinhuan | i don't get your point |
| 16:33.51 | stavmar | I suppose Xinhuan |
| 16:34.10 | thul | k |
| 16:34.21 | Fin | I think I understand what stavmar wants to do, but I don't see how it's not possible to do right now |
| 16:34.24 | Xinhuan | i don't see the usefulness of selecting 3 out of 5 items to open from 1 mail, when you can just open that mail and click the 3 item icons out of the 5 |
| 16:34.27 | stavmar | i guess the interface from bulkmail Inbox caught my eye as i get a list of all the items in teh mail at once and place checkboxes near them |
| 16:35.02 | Xinhuan | if i ever send mail like that, i would have sent it as 2 separate mails |
| 16:35.04 | Fin | that reminds me |
| 16:35.06 | stavmar | if it it has a checkbox then it comes to my inventory, it helps when i have 3 toons sending stuff to one bank alt or guild vault |
| 16:35.07 | Xinhuan | one is 3/3 and the other is 2/2 |
| 16:35.32 | stavmar | well that is what has changed with the mail function in the last patch, i send it all at once with your alt send functionality |
| 16:35.42 | stavmar | alt-click |
| 16:35.43 | Xinhuan | why don't you install postal and see what's new/whats different ;p |
| 16:35.46 | Fin | that list gets really long sometimes, finding a specific item is a nightmare... |
| 16:36.03 | Xinhuan | its hard to say |
| 16:36.06 | Xinhuan | in words |
| 16:36.13 | Fin | try song |
| 16:36.18 | Fin | or the magic of dance! |
| 16:36.21 | Xinhuan | i check out other "alternative mods" that do the same thing once in a while |
| 16:36.38 | stavmar | i run both Xinhuan i was just wondering.. |
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| 16:36.55 | stavmar | Seeing if i could eliminate bulkmail for yours exclusively |
| 16:36.55 | Xinhuan | both works together at the same time? i didn't try |
| 16:37.05 | stavmar | it does no issues at lal |
| 16:37.09 | stavmar | all* |
| 16:37.16 | Fin | do you perhaps learn from their erudite programming and closely follow the styles of the masters? perhaps sometimes so closely that your own, personal, hard written code might even be mistaken for theirs..? :P |
| 16:37.18 | Xinhuan | try disabling bulkmail? |
| 16:37.36 | stavmar | will do, with your latest update and see how it goes |
| 16:41.06 | Birdemani | where can i find an older version of babble? |
| 16:41.12 | Birdemani | the one that is on WAU isnt working |
| 16:41.20 | Birdemani | no add ons can find it |
| 16:43.09 | Birdemani | anyone? the one on files.wowace.com is only the latest |
| 16:43.23 | Birdemani | I used ot have the link to the archived versions, but cant seem to find it |
| 16:43.24 | Polarina | Birdemani: http://files.wowace.com/Babble/ |
| 16:44.43 | Gngsk | anyone know the name of the pvp objective frame that shows which side is capping in like eye of the storm and halaa |
| 16:44.54 | Birdemani | Polarina: I clicked on that link and it didnt work |
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| 16:45.11 | Polarina | Birdemani: http://files.wowace.com/Babble-2.2/ |
| 16:45.26 | Birdemani | thanks@ |
| 16:46.55 | Polarina | Now go and get yourself some clothes. |
| 16:47.05 | Polarina | You'll find them under the Christmas tree. |
| 16:47.22 | Industrial | :o |
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| 16:55.50 | Xuerian | Did the Spaniards mess up babble or something? |
| 16:59.15 | Birdemani | someon did, yes |
| 17:00.31 | [Ammo] | is it still fucked? |
| 17:02.01 | Birdemani | yes |
| 17:02.13 | Birdemani | essetnially no mods can find any of hte babble paths |
| 17:04.22 | [Ammo] | found the errosr |
| 17:04.24 | [Ammo] | fixing |
| 17:05.59 | cncfanatics | hail [Ammo] ! |
| 17:06.37 | CIA-8 | 03ammo * r57415 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:06.37 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:06.37 | CIA-8 | - Spanish translators should stick to whatever the rest of the spanish do. |
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| 17:07.56 | cncfanatics | lol ammo |
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| 17:09.29 | neoaeon | Is Babble broke on the SVN, or is it me? |
| 17:09.35 | cncfanatics | it just got fixed |
| 17:09.37 | [Ammo] | not anymore |
| 17:09.46 | [Ammo] | fixed 3 mins ao |
| 17:09.49 | cncfanatics | the fix is on the files server in about, 5 minutes |
| 17:09.50 | [Ammo] | blame the spanish |
| 17:10.02 | neoaeon | cool, thanks :D |
| 17:13.02 | Xinhuan | hmm talismonger's detection of fishing nodes is a bit odd |
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| 17:13.54 | Xinhuan | it will detect the first item the mouse cursor changes over |
| 17:14.09 | Xinhuan | that is in the tracked_loot[] table |
| 17:14.19 | [Ammo] | fishing nodes only contain 1 item |
| 17:14.25 | Xinhuan | so if this is a liferoot... it throws "Fishing", "Liferoot" |
| 17:14.27 | Xinhuan | as the event |
| 17:14.33 | Xinhuan | so the fishing node doesn't get recorded |
| 17:14.44 | Xinhuan | instead of say "Fishing", "Greater Sagefish School" |
| 17:15.05 | Xinhuan | fishing nodes can contain all sorts of fish, scroll cases and stuff |
| 17:15.10 | Xinhuan | even fishing tracking spellbook |
| 17:15.13 | Xinhuan | and mr pinchy |
| 17:15.29 | Xinhuan | the nagrand fishing nodes of pure water can contain motes of water |
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| 17:17.18 | Xinhuan | hmm talismonger doesn't use aceaddon, so i can't register a event for _fishing to throw back |
| 17:19.33 | Xinhuan | ammo, i don't mean the "fishing loot box" |
| 17:20.02 | Xinhuan | i mean talismonger detects the first world object in the 3d world that causes the cursor to change, from a hand to a cursor or herb icon for eg |
| 17:20.28 | Xinhuan | and checks GameTooltipTextLeft1 |
| 17:20.36 | Xinhuan | for the item it just moused-out of |
| 17:20.58 | Polarina | Anyone suggest me a name for a good, accurate anti-spam addon that reports gold-spammers automatically using the "Report Spam" button. |
| 17:21.03 | Polarina | Is "Relegation" good? |
| 17:21.09 | Xinhuan | normall, this means when the fishing bobber is in the fishing node, you move the mouse onto the bobber, triggering it |
| 17:21.40 | Xinhuan | it fails if the mouse goes over a nearby liferoot instead of the bobber and "Liferoot" is registered |
| 17:29.09 | Osstia | Anyone know why SCT would not be displaying my own damage numbers? |
| 17:29.20 | Osstia | it appears to be displaying everything else |
| 17:29.32 | Firelemming | you need sct_damage |
| 17:29.36 | dylanm | Uh do you have sctd |
| 17:29.47 | Osstia | I do |
| 17:29.51 | dylanm | Sorry if that's an insulting question but it doesn't hurt to ask does itt :P |
| 17:30.01 | Osstia | not at all |
| 17:30.20 | dylanm | Hm. |
| 17:32.11 | Osstia | well, now don't i feel stupid |
| 17:32.17 | Osstia | sctd was disable |
| 17:32.21 | Osstia | disabled |
| 17:32.29 | Firelemming | :) |
| 17:32.33 | Osstia | although installed |
| 17:32.43 | Osstia | so no, not insulting at all :) |
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| 17:52.11 | Fin | Osstia: why do you smell so bad? |
| 17:52.17 | Fin | there you go |
| 17:52.32 | Fin | just to fill the quota |
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| 17:53.31 | Fin | what addon uses PaintChipsLib, does anyone know? |
| 17:56.50 | Firelemming | disable it and see what addon is screaming :) |
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| 18:00.49 | Ravagernl | omg |
| 18:01.00 | Ravagernl | some dude on my server dueled a warlock |
| 18:01.16 | Ravagernl | for like 20 minutes, next day, the lock ran to him opened trade |
| 18:01.31 | Ravagernl | gave the guy 2800g |
| 18:01.42 | Ravagernl | he said 'for hawt secks' |
| 18:01.53 | Firelemming | o.O |
| 18:01.59 | Gngsk | 2800g is not really that much |
| 18:02.38 | Stanzilla | Fin: bigwigs imo |
| 18:04.51 | Firelemming | its more then i have now! |
| 18:05.16 | Ozguli | I have like 1600g on the whole realm |
| 18:05.29 | Firelemming | so 2800g is alot |
| 18:05.37 | Ozguli | indeed it is |
| 18:05.37 | Fin | Stanzilla: thanks. |
| 18:06.57 | Vulcanus | I have 3k across all my chars, not counting the 600 I need to get my 3rd alt its epic ground mount. I do have exalted with netherwing on my raiding main tho, which returned like 4k of the epic mount money ;p |
| 18:07.46 | Firelemming | i dont give that much about gold, as long as i can pay the repair bills and new enchants im ok |
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| 18:09.31 | tweek__ | anyone here familiar with SW_Stats? |
| 18:10.40 | vithos | i was months ago |
| 18:10.53 | Fin | Ellipsis: your animated sig needs to stop after one or two loops |
| 18:11.04 | Fin | it's almost as annoying as bad grammer! |
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| 18:11.28 | tweek__ | well, some guy is trying to convince me that there's a way, in-game, to fiddle with the stats |
| 18:11.35 | tweek__ | without the changes being logged in the timeline |
| 18:12.32 | tweek__ | I'm unfamiliar with the code so I'm not even sure where to begin to look through it. but I'll keep looking |
| 18:14.29 | Gngsk | Fin, why not just adblock it? |
| 18:14.44 | vithos | Gngsk: heh, that's exactly what i did. |
| 18:15.02 | vithos | that sig is annoying :P |
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| 19:01.34 | thul | http://youtube.com/watch?v=BLi_m656tQQ <- that must be the most beautifull national anthem ever. |
| 19:01.58 | NeoTron | so I just got a recommendation from amazon.com to buy the Auto Assault strategy guide. lol |
| 19:02.13 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 19:02.40 | Osstia | no sound on this machine thul, what anthem is that? |
| 19:02.44 | NeoTron | only, oh, 5 months after the cancellation was announced and 4 months after it was cancelled :) |
| 19:02.47 | NeoTron | close! |
| 19:03.42 | thul | Osstia: the russian :-) |
| 19:05.58 | |Pixel| | talking about amazon |
| 19:05.59 | |Pixel| | http://www.amazon.fr/World-Warcraft-Col%C3%A8re-Liche-Extension/dp/B000WYXMFY |
| 19:06.05 | |Pixel| | http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Expansion/dp/B000UTOE8A |
| 19:06.09 | |Pixel| | http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Expansion/dp/B000VJTJNE |
| 19:06.16 | |Pixel| | <3 release dates |
| 19:08.02 | Osstia | nov 30 2008 huh |
| 19:08.17 | Adys|xmas | Quick, someone link it to wowinsider |
| 19:08.25 | Osstia | lmao |
| 19:10.39 | EvilJohn | those aren't real release dates |
| 19:11.32 | Osstia | I think that was generally understood |
| 19:11.36 | Osstia | i **Think** |
| 19:14.35 | [AR]Camci | http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=23714246 |
| 19:14.37 | [AR]Camci | lmao |
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| 20:03.23 | Fisker- | merry christmas |Pixel| omg |
| 20:03.38 | |Pixel| | is it already time for you ? |
| 20:03.45 | Fisker- | almost over infact |
| 20:03.52 | Fisker- | got home like an hour ago |
| 20:06.29 | Fisker- | lol wtf |
| 20:08.16 | Fisker- | http://i10.tinypic.com/6jg9rx3.jpg |
| 20:08.17 | Fisker- | :D |
| 20:08.25 | Fisker- | great graphics |
| 20:10.01 | Superfly1 | anybody using trinitybars? ( any pro/cons against bartender3 ? ) |
| 20:11.02 | Kivin | Superfly1: I use TrinityBars2 |
| 20:11.32 | Superfly1 | im using bartender3 but someone suggested trinitybars(2) |
| 20:11.49 | Superfly1 | im just looking into it, but its pretty hard to say any pro/cons from the screenshots |
| 20:11.56 | Superfly1 | and i dont want to mess my bartender3 config |
| 20:12.09 | Kivin | What's the matter with BT3's config? |
| 20:13.02 | Kivin | Sweet, I got SVN write access... Nice Christmas gift |
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| 20:15.24 | Superfly1 | well i like bt3, but im open to try something new/better |
| 20:18.09 | Kivin | Well, the bottom line is, Trinity Requires an order of power more configuration than bt3 |
| 20:18.43 | Kemayo | "order of magnitude" |
| 20:18.54 | Kivin | or that |
| 20:19.13 | Kivin | Anyone mind giving me a hand with SmartSVN? |
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| 20:19.27 | Kivin | Apparently I'm too inept to get it working |
| 20:19.46 | Kivin | Are you familiar with the wowace SVN in general? |
| 20:19.51 | Kemayo | Sure |
| 20:20.01 | Kivin | ok, it doesn't want to connect to the svn |
| 20:20.10 | Kivin | i have it set to 'http' and the path as 'dev.wowace.com/wowace' |
| 20:20.24 | Kivin | i selected to use a login, rather than anon, and entered my credentials |
| 20:20.35 | Kivin | it pauses for a few, then gives me a generic 'can't connect' dialog |
| 20:20.46 | Kemayo | That sounds like what I do. |
| 20:20.53 | Kivin | `PROPFIND request failed on...` |
| 20:21.01 | Superfly1 | any unique feature that would worth to install it |
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| 20:21.37 | Kivin | Superfly1: The most notable features it has are unlimited-length macros, ability to use an unlimited number of unique macros, and the ability to use buttons that don't spring from the standard 120-actionID buttons |
| 20:22.09 | Kivin | The implications of not using the 120 actionIDs are: your buttons wont save to the server, but rather your HD. You can have different 'profiles' for different button setups. You can have > 120 unique buttons. |
| 20:24.14 | Kivin | I personally have two rows of 12 buttons each which don't use the ActionIDs. I have it setup in this way so I can change Trinity's profile and switch from PVP to Raid buttons very easily. |
| 20:24.36 | Superfly1 | ah that makes sense |
| 20:25.01 | Kivin | And I have very long macros in my five heal buttons for various modifiers and states |
| 20:25.25 | Kivin | Maybe I could simplify them < 255 chars, maybe not. But it's nice not having to count letters. |
| 20:25.46 | Kemayo | Kivin: Enter "dev.wowace.com" as the server name, and "/wowace" as the path. |
| 20:26.13 | Kivin | ... Oh. |
| 20:26.16 | Kivin | Thank you very much |
| 20:26.26 | Kivin | I thought server name was "What do you want to call this connection" |
| 20:26.47 | Kemayo | That's what I thought, too. I used the "enter SVN url" button to find the correct settings. |
| 20:27.07 | Kivin | ahh |
| 20:27.24 | Kivin | Yeah, that looks better |
| 20:27.42 | Kivin | Kind of weirded me out that it wouldn't accept the "http://". Guess I should've clicked that in the first place. |
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| 20:29.47 | Kivin | A "check out" is for downloading something off the SVN, amirite? |
| 20:30.14 | Kemayo | It's for creating a working copy, which is one you can use to commit changes from. |
| 20:30.20 | Kivin | Oka |
| 20:30.23 | Kivin | +y |
| 20:30.48 | Kemayo | There's also "export", which gets you a completely clean copy, but without the metadata you'd need to make changes. |
| 20:30.52 | Kivin | I've got an addon in my interface/addons folder which I'd like to get started with. I'm just on the sandbox svn for now so I don't mess it all up |
| 20:33.27 | Kivin | `Cannot read HTTP status line` X_X |
| 20:33.52 | Kivin | I'm going to restart to finish the TortoiseSVN installation and give that a shot.. |
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| 20:37.45 | Kivin | @kemayo, If my project has never been on the SVN, do I want to export it first? |
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| 20:44.20 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57416 10BuyCrap/addon.lua: BuyCrap: Debug print begone! |
| 20:44.38 | Kemayo | Kivin: There should be an "import" option somewhere. |
| 20:44.45 | Kivin | Kemayo: I got that. |
| 20:45.02 | Kivin | Kemayo: I did an import & I'm now in the repo browser trying to find where my project went |
| 20:45.46 | Kivin | Kemayo: It appears to have dumped my source files in the root sandbox 'folder' |
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| 20:46.41 | Kemayo | Ah, yes. You need to include the name of the directory you want created in the import path. |
| 20:47.10 | Kemayo | So you'd import a folder called "Foo" to "sandbox/Foo", not "sandbox". |
| 20:47.20 | Kivin | I gathered that. I added my addon name to the end of the SVN path and I don't actually see the folder, here |
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| 20:47.39 | degli | hi all |
| 20:47.39 | Kivin | http://dev.wowace.com/sandbox/KivinConsoleXP |
| 20:47.42 | Kivin | hullo |
| 20:47.58 | degli | where I can download ace2? |
| 20:48.24 | Kivin | degli: Ace2 comes packaged within all ace2 compliant addons |
| 20:48.33 | Kemayo | degli: Firstly, you don't need to download ace2, any addon using it should come with it "embedded" within the addon. Secondly, look at files.wowace.com for addons. |
| 20:48.47 | degli | tnx |
| 20:48.49 | degli | but my friend |
| 20:48.55 | degli | have a giu for download all addon's |
| 20:48.59 | degli | whois? |
| 20:49.08 | Kemayo | Ah, you want wowaceupdater |
| 20:49.11 | Kivin | the gui is probably the WAU (Wowace Updater) |
| 20:49.12 | Kemayo | ~wau |
| 20:49.13 | purl | wau is probably WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 20:49.15 | degli | tnx |
| 20:49.30 | degli | n1 |
| 20:49.30 | degli | :D |
| 20:49.45 | shesaws_ | how do you develop addons, I mean software you use |
| 20:50.00 | Kivin | shesaws_: A text editor |
| 20:50.03 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=Cameron_@rrcs-74-87-63-57.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:50.07 | shesaws_ | specifically, do you edit/test lua code in-game? |
| 20:50.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:50.18 | degli | mm.. |
| 20:50.18 | shesaws_ | or /reload after each change? |
| 20:50.20 | degli | I've doanlad |
| 20:50.21 | Kivin | Kemayo: Now that my addon is on the sandbox, do I want to checkout or continue importing if I want to either (*)Add new source files (*)Update local->SVN existing src files |
| 20:50.21 | degli | download |
| 20:50.26 | degli | but when I try to install |
| 20:50.30 | degli | say one error |
| 20:50.31 | Kivin | shesaws_: You /reload |
| 20:50.44 | degli | The following error occurred attempting to install 'C:\Documents and Settings\Sazenchan\Desktop\WowAceUpdater.application': |
| 20:50.54 | shesaws_ | Kivin: ? |
| 20:51.00 | Kivin | shesaws_: ? |
| 20:51.05 | Kemayo | Kivin: You proably need to do a checkout. |
| 20:51.09 | Kivin | Kemayo: Okay |
| 20:51.12 | shesaws_ | Kivin: what do you mean, I reload? |
| 20:51.18 | Kivin | shesaws_: Code is edited mostly out of game |
| 20:51.32 | Kivin | shesaws_: reload your UI to commit the changes to the game |
| 20:51.43 | shesaws_ | kk, ty |
| 20:51.50 | Kemayo | degli: I recomment asking further in #wau, for I don't use WAU myself. :) |
| 20:52.28 | degli | tnx |
| 20:52.38 | Livid`` | degli are you using firefox ? |
| 20:52.49 | shesaws_ | Kivin: do you use any addons to help development, like for debug output, or straight to console? |
| 20:53.06 | Kivin | shesaws_: not really. Just notepad |
| 20:53.39 | Kivin | shesaws_: you can execute isolated segments of code in the game using the command line (/run ...) or macros, but it's inefficient for more than one or two lines of code at a time |
| 20:55.14 | Kivin | Kemayo: I'm trying to commit my addon folder to the SVN and it's failing because the files "already exist" on the sandbox |
| 20:55.26 | NightHawkTheSane | it's always nice having a good technical support experience. |
| 20:56.26 | CIA-8 | 03zuno * r57417 10UnitActionBars2/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:56.26 | CIA-8 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 20:56.26 | CIA-8 | - Performance fixes for action buttons that stay open. Optimized bag, inventory, and spell queries. |
| 20:56.26 | CIA-8 | - Fixed issue with unit group copy from hostile to another unit group. |
| 20:57.54 | Kemayo | Kivin: It sounds like you're trying to commit on top of the old version without it checked out properly. |
| 20:59.46 | Kivin | Alright, I just wiped the SVN and my local folder and revered to a backup. Time to try this again without the half dozen blotched imports |
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| 21:00.38 | Kivin | Checkout failed because one of my addon folders already exists on the hard drive? |
| 21:01.15 | Kivin | *Sigh* what a mess... |
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| 21:03.01 | Kivin | If I import, it yells at me because the files exist on the SVN. If I checkout, it yells at me because the files already exist on my hard drive. It's like it expects me to delete one or the other before doing anything |
| 21:04.55 | Industrial | so delete the files except the .svn and checkout |
| 21:05.13 | Kivin | *Blink* |
| 21:05.44 | Industrial | addons/addon/.svn, leave that and delete the rest in the addon dir and try again? |
| 21:06.17 | Kivin | ok, that seemed to work without exploding in my face |
| 21:06.30 | Kivin | Now... to try a commit, i guess |
| 21:08.30 | Kivin | Ok, that seemed to work. Never would have thought it'd want me to wipe out my local files before I could do anything. Thanks, Industrial. |
| 21:09.14 | Kivin | Next crisis, if you don't mind. Should I import and commit my addons with the externals in the libs folder? |
| 21:09.33 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57418 10PackageTooltip/core.lua: PackageTooltip: Use ATTACHMENTS_MAX_RECEIVE instead of numItems, to show items in mails that have already had stuff picked up. |
| 21:10.05 | Kemayo | No, you should commit them with an empty libs folder, and add a svn:externals property to that folder. |
| 21:10.27 | Kivin | Perfect, thanks |
| 21:11.49 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57419 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Rework and add tooltip support for some addons. |
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| 21:17.17 | Xinhuan | Kemayo, i don't even do that |
| 21:17.21 | Kivin | Still struggling with the externals property. |
| 21:17.33 | Xinhuan | i mean, i don't even import an empty libs folder |
| 21:17.51 | Xinhuan | you can set externals directly inclusive of a libs/ path |
| 21:18.03 | Kivin | Xinhuan: Mind giving me some instruction? |
| 21:18.12 | Xinhuan | i use tsvn heh |
| 21:18.14 | Kivin | Assume I have no Libs folder |
| 21:18.17 | Kivin | So do i... |
| 21:18.20 | Xinhuan | do you use that? |
| 21:18.40 | Kivin | I'm in explorer at WOWDIR\Interface\Addons\MySVNProjectFolder\ |
| 21:18.45 | Kivin | with tortoise |
| 21:18.56 | Xinhuan | there is a screenshot, i'll show you |
| 21:19.00 | Kivin | thanks |
| 21:20.28 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners |
| 21:20.30 | Xinhuan | check that page |
| 21:20.46 | Xinhuan | 2 screenshots on how to set it up |
| 21:21.12 | Xinhuan | notice that in the screenshot, the svn:externals property has many lines, one per library external |
| 21:21.26 | Xinhuan | libs/AceLocale-2.0 http://blahblah |
| 21:21.31 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: There was some point in an earlier version of the files script when I was told you had to have the libs folder. I think that's long past, but it's still how I do things by habit. |
| 21:21.50 | Xinhuan | so what that means is that the URL pointed to, will be an external and written to libs/AceLocale-2.0/ |
| 21:22.00 | Xinhuan | if you check this out that is |
| 21:23.10 | Kivin | I guess I"ll have to get tsvn setup for the live trunk, i'm just mucking about in the sandbox |
| 21:23.26 | Xinhuan | you can use tsvn on the sandbox too |
| 21:23.40 | Kivin | You misunderstand; I'm not sure what paths to put for the externals |
| 21:23.45 | Kivin | I need the repo browser, i think |
| 21:24.07 | ckknight | where would I get lots and lots of DDR songs? |
| 21:24.21 | Kivin | *blink* |
| 21:24.36 | Xinhuan | people normally point to http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibName/Libsubfolder/ |
| 21:24.44 | Arrowmaster | for stepmania? |
| 21:25.09 | Arrowmaster | or just mp3s |
| 21:25.10 | Polarina | Is this a good enough description?: |
| 21:25.10 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.12 | Kivin | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibRock-1.0/ |
| 21:25.13 | Kivin | ? |
| 21:26.29 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:26.39 | Kivin | graci |
| 21:26.41 | Xinhuan | that is correct |
| 21:27.11 | Xinhuan | some libraries have a subfolder containing only the .lua file for it |
| 21:27.16 | Xinhuan | you should then point to that subfolder |
| 21:27.23 | Xinhuan | libs/Babble-Boss-2.2 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2 |
| 21:27.24 | Xinhuan | for eg |
| 21:27.38 | Kivin | I don't think Ck's libs are like that... |
| 21:27.46 | Xinhuan | since you only want that .lua file, and not the others like the .toc as well |
| 21:28.04 | Arrowmaster | you need the lib.xml if its there |
| 21:28.07 | Xinhuan | of course, you can set single lua files as external as well, rather than an entire folder, but not recommended |
| 21:28.31 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no, not with svn |
| 21:28.36 | Xinhuan | no? |
| 21:28.37 | ckknight | svn:externals only work for folders |
| 21:28.43 | ckknight | which, imho, sucks donkey balls |
| 21:28.44 | Polarina | Anyone? |
| 21:28.48 | Xinhuan | does git allows that? |
| 21:28.52 | ckknight | either way, I've grown to despise svn |
| 21:28.59 | ckknight | Xinhuan: git has a concept called submodules |
| 21:29.07 | ckknight | which link to whole projects, I believe, I'm honestly not sure. |
| 21:29.18 | ckknight | that's the next thing I'm working on |
| 21:29.25 | ckknight | okay, off to go Christmas shopping |
| 21:29.30 | Xinhuan | have fun |
| 21:30.09 | Stanzilla | bit late? |
| 21:30.19 | Polarina | What do I add to the TOC for the Author field to show something at files.wowace.com ? |
| 21:31.50 | CIA-8 | 03phanx * r57420 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealthOptions.lua: |
| 21:31.50 | CIA-8 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 21:31.50 | CIA-8 | - Maybe fix missing pet options |
| 21:38.27 | Kivin | I'm trying to change my directory from the sandbox to the wowace/trunk. I can't seem to get a "Switch" or a "Relocate" to work |
| 21:46.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, you know the sound tie fighters make as they fly by is not too dissimilar to the scream shadow vessels make. |
| 21:48.30 | Xinhuan | you can't do that kivin |
| 21:48.36 | Xinhuan | you need to re-import |
| 21:48.58 | Xinhuan | OR make a branch on the svn on the trunk from the sandbox |
| 21:49.06 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I've gathered that, now |
| 21:49.19 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I can't get my initial import to work on the trunk, because of the eol style property |
| 21:49.31 | Xinhuan | did you set the auto-props |
| 21:49.35 | Xinhuan | in tsvn? |
| 21:49.40 | Kivin | Hmmm no |
| 21:49.46 | Xinhuan | go do it, its in the tutorial somewhere |
| 21:50.10 | Xinhuan | basically, in tsvn settings |
| 21:50.32 | Xinhuan | you go to "general" settings, and there's a "edit" button for the svn config file |
| 21:50.35 | Xinhuan | click on that |
| 21:50.46 | Kivin | Xinhuan: found that |
| 21:50.54 | Kivin | # enable-auto-props = yes |
| 21:50.56 | Xinhuan | then you need to find the line that says |
| 21:51.06 | Xinhuan | yes, that line, remove the # in front |
| 21:51.20 | Xinhuan | and in the next section below it in [auto-props] |
| 21:51.26 | Polarina | ## Notes: Monitors chat messages for gold spamming and reports a match as a spam. |
| 21:51.26 | Polarina | Is that a good description? |
| 21:51.31 | Kivin | May I do *.* = svn:eol-style |
| 21:51.37 | Kivin | Polarina: I guess? |
| 21:51.39 | Xinhuan | uncomment the various file extensions you want to automatically apply property settings on |
| 21:51.44 | Xinhuan | no kivin |
| 21:51.55 | Xinhuan | you want something like |
| 21:51.55 | Xinhuan | *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png |
| 21:51.56 | Xinhuan | *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg |
| 21:51.56 | Xinhuan | *.tga = svn:mime-type=image/tga |
| 21:51.56 | Xinhuan | *.blp = svn:mime-type=image/blp |
| 21:51.58 | Xinhuan | for graphic files |
| 21:52.14 | Xinhuan | and |
| 21:52.16 | Xinhuan | svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native |
| 21:52.19 | Xinhuan | for text files |
| 21:52.33 | Xinhuan | xml should look like svn:mime-type=text/xml;svn:eol-style=native |
| 21:52.43 | Xinhuan | there's a few other things |
| 21:52.46 | Polarina | What do I add to the TOC for the author of a addon appears at files.wowace.com ? |
| 21:52.56 | Xinhuan | check the tutorial i linked earlier |
| 21:53.09 | Xinhuan | Polarina: ## Author: |
| 21:53.19 | Xinhuan | and ## Notes: |
| 21:53.19 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Thanks. |
| 21:53.48 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57421 10KivinConsoleXP/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:53.48 | CIA-8 | KivinConsoleXP: initial commit |
| 21:53.48 | CIA-8 | - A text-based XP Meter which lives in the chat console. |
| 21:54.17 | Kivin | Okay... now for externals |
| 21:54.31 | Kivin | oh wait... checkout |
| 21:55.29 | Polarina | $ svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/trunk/Relegation/ # Is this correct? |
| 21:55.45 | Xinhuan | its missing a /wowace/ |
| 21:55.52 | Xinhuan | before /trunk |
| 21:56.06 | Polarina | $ svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Relegation/ |
| 21:56.21 | Xinhuan | i think so |
| 21:56.36 | Polarina | Let us see. |
| 21:57.03 | Xinhuan | you still have to "svn commit" though, so you could try it out and see if that works before committing |
| 21:57.12 | Xinhuan | i think? |
| 21:57.15 | Polarina | ? |
| 21:57.26 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure |
| 21:57.29 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 21:58.22 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57422 10Relegation/: |
| 21:58.22 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 21:58.22 | CIA-8 | - Emptiness. |
| 21:58.23 | nevcairiel | i think svn mkdir works directly on the server |
| 21:58.31 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 21:58.48 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57423 10KivinConsoleXP/: KivinConsoleXP: Added TOC Metadata; Corrected externals. |
| 21:58.51 | Arrowmaster | then you have to do a checkout, then svn add all the files to it after copying them to the dir |
| 21:59.01 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 21:59.35 | Xinhuan | .. havent you done this before polarina |
| 21:59.46 | Xinhuan | i remember when you first committed Valuation |
| 22:00.02 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I have, just making sure I remember things correctly. |
| 22:01.10 | Kivin | Sweet... a clean checkout, externals and all. |
| 22:02.15 | Kivin | Erm; Why does my addon appear under the heading "SVN" instead of "Not installed" in WAU |
| 22:02.18 | Polarina | svn:eol-style |
| 22:02.22 | Polarina | How did I set that again? |
| 22:03.21 | Xinhuan | it takes ~20 minutes for changes to the SVN to propagate to files.wowace.com where WAU connects to |
| 22:03.27 | Kivin | okay |
| 22:03.44 | Polarina | Anyone? |
| 22:03.46 | Kivin | Polarina: in the properties |
| 22:03.55 | Polarina | ? |
| 22:03.57 | Kivin | Right click your folder, properties |
| 22:04.09 | Kivin | subversion tab |
| 22:04.10 | Polarina | Kivin: I'm using command line interface. |
| 22:04.12 | Xinhuan | Polarina: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Idiots |
| 22:05.01 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Nothing about that there. |
| 22:05.07 | Xinhuan | scroll to the middle |
| 22:05.19 | Polarina | Xinhuan: That's for externals. |
| 22:05.33 | Xinhuan | isn't that what you asked? |
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| 22:06.04 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I need that svn:eol-style for all the text files in the addon.. |
| 22:07.29 | Polarina | Anyone? |
| 22:08.02 | Kivin | I'm sorry, I'm not ignoring you, but I honestly know nothing about svn |
| 22:08.53 | Polarina | $ svn propset svn:eol-style=LF -F <files> # Correct? |
| 22:09.53 | Xinhuan | probably |
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| 22:09.56 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 22:09.58 | Xinhuan | i'm sure there's also a |
| 22:10.01 | Xinhuan | svn help propset |
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| 22:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Merry Christmas. Not. |
| 22:12.08 | CIA-8 | 03alx * r57424 10WhoLib/WhoLib.toc: WhoLib: updated toc |
| 22:12.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Speeddymon |
| 22:12.40 | purl | ACTION runs at Speeddymon with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 22:13.12 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57425 10Relegation/ (30 files in 9 dirs): |
| 22:13.12 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 22:13.12 | CIA-8 | - Initial commit. |
| 22:13.15 | Polarina | :D |
| 22:13.19 | sag_ich_nicht | huh. |
| 22:13.22 | sag_ich_nicht | what's that Polarina |
| 22:13.27 | Xinhuan | what's that addon anyway |
| 22:13.34 | Polarina | ## Notes: Monitors chat messages for gold spamming and reports a match as a spam. |
| 22:13.38 | Xinhuan | and 30 files? |
| 22:13.50 | Polarina | Yep. |
| 22:13.56 | Xinhuan | why are there so many |
| 22:14.02 | Polarina | See for yourself. :) |
| 22:14.04 | Kivin | that's one hell of a spam filter |
| 22:14.36 | Kivin | My WAU keeps crashing... ever since I commited |
| 22:14.43 | Kivin | bloody thing |
| 22:15.42 | Xinhuan | did you use invalid characters in the tOC |
| 22:16.19 | Polarina | Me? No. |
| 22:16.27 | Xinhuan | Polarina, i believe 20 files of 5 lines isn't very conducive of "modular programming". |
| 22:16.31 | Xinhuan | also i was referring to kevin |
| 22:17.09 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I wouldn't think so? |
| 22:17.12 | Xinhuan | the more files there are, the longer wow takes to load |
| 22:17.14 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Yeah, I know. Just testing out my new structure. :) |
| 22:17.29 | Xinhuan | its bad, just throw the entire Events folder into 1 file |
| 22:17.36 | Polarina | Why? |
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| 22:17.51 | Xinhuan | why even split it out into small 50 byte files, is there a purpose? |
| 22:17.57 | Kivin | is the X-Data required? |
| 22:18.02 | Xinhuan | kivin no |
| 22:18.16 | ag` | merry christmas wowace |
| 22:18.27 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I somehow liked that style. Dunno why. |
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| 22:19.01 | Xinhuan | i feel its bad style to use excessive files, but that's just me |
| 22:19.08 | sag_ich_nicht | it is |
| 22:19.15 | sag_ich_nicht | because it will slow down WoW loading time. |
| 22:19.21 | Polarina | How do you know? |
| 22:19.30 | Xinhuan | modular is good, but when you use too many files, you might as well put every function and lua chunk into its own file |
| 22:19.58 | Xinhuan | there's just no purpose to it, separate files is only for code organisational purposes |
| 22:20.17 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57426 10KivinConsoleXP/KivinConsoleXP.toc: KivinConsoleXP: +toc |
| 22:21.19 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. http://www.blizzard.com/images/broodwar/xmas-kerr.jpg |
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| 22:22.11 | Xinhuan | the ## X-stuff is ok |
| 22:22.33 | Xinhuan | those fields are meta fields accessible from ingame lua |
| 22:23.14 | Kivin | I stripped down the toc to see if that was it |
| 22:23.18 | Kivin | WAU still crashing |
| 22:23.59 | Kivin | i'll give it long enough for the addon to move from the 'svn' section to 'not installed' then see if it still borks |
| 22:24.12 | Xinhuan | its probably an issue with your WAU |
| 22:24.17 | Xinhuan | since my WAU works fine |
| 22:24.27 | Kivin | well that's comforting... that i didn't blow up the whole WAU |
| 22:25.20 | Xinhuan | kivinconsolexp appears on my wau |
| 22:25.25 | Xinhuan | so, your wau sucks |
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| 22:25.26 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 22:26.22 | Xinhuan | btw kivin |
| 22:26.23 | Xinhuan | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt |
| 22:26.31 | Xinhuan | your zip file is generated successfully |
| 22:26.43 | Kivin | Thanks |
| 22:27.02 | Xinhuan | as you can see, some addons zip fails |
| 22:27.15 | Xinhuan | as their externals are wrong (and have been wrong forever) |
| 22:27.34 | Xinhuan | the zipscript runs every 20 minutes |
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| 22:28.21 | Kivin | so my files should be on files.wowace.com, now, yes? |
| 22:29.08 | Kivin | apparently not |
| 22:31.36 | Kivin | My updater's behavior is so strange... it stays running for about 30 seconds, then crashes |
| 22:31.50 | Kivin | I tried uninstalling & reinstalling the stupid thing |
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| 22:34.12 | Kivin | Hmm... deleting the addon folder off my hard drive stopped the crashes |
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| 22:42.21 | Xinhuan | have fun ;p |
| 22:45.27 | Kivin | Would it be bad form to commit an incomplete addon onto the trunk so some people can fetch it for testing? |
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| 22:45.50 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on who you ask |
| 22:46.25 | Kivin | ... |
| 22:46.29 | Kivin | And if I ask you? |
| 22:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i say it's all good, go for it. :P |
| 22:46.42 | Kivin | oh, ok |
| 22:46.57 | Kivin | commit message: This addon is extremely experimental, but NightHawkTheSane said it's okay. |
| 22:47.03 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 22:50.40 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57427 10KivinLootzor/ (20 files in 7 dirs): |
| 22:50.40 | CIA-8 | KivinLootzor: Initial Commit |
| 22:50.40 | CIA-8 | - A compact loot browser. |
| 22:52.13 | Xinhuan | loot browser? |
| 22:52.28 | Kivin | Yeah. Like, uhh, atlasloot, i guess... but less screen real-estate |
| 22:52.48 | Xinhuan | any features atlasloot doesn't have? |
| 22:52.59 | Kivin | It's a work in progress |
| 22:53.15 | Xinhuan | rephrase: any planned features atlasloot doesn't have? |
| 22:54.10 | Kivin | I'm considering letting it store tradeskill patterns as well as actual items, for one |
| 22:54.35 | Kivin | And once I figure out dewdrop, you can imbue item links with enchantments |
| 22:55.03 | Kivin | Link your favourite [Stoppable Force] with Executioner to 'wow' all the ladies... |
| 22:55.04 | Kivin | -.- |
| 22:55.23 | Xinhuan | my addon can already do that second suggestion - WoWEquip ;p |
| 22:55.27 | Kivin | :P |
| 22:55.29 | Xinhuan | its an ingame ct-profiles addon |
| 22:55.37 | buu | Xinhuan is better than you. |
| 22:55.48 | Kivin | CT Profiles is still around? |
| 22:55.53 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 22:55.54 | Kivin | Haven't heard that name in ... a long, long time |
| 22:56.02 | Xinhuan | but i wrote an ingame version, kinda |
| 22:56.06 | Kivin | Kinda? |
| 22:56.14 | Xinhuan | you can send/receive profiles to others too |
| 22:56.27 | Kivin | Is it a dressing room for stats? |
| 22:56.32 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:56.35 | Xinhuan | both stats and dressing room |
| 22:56.38 | Kivin | How accurate is it... with talents and stuff? |
| 22:56.44 | Xinhuan | i haven't added talent support |
| 22:56.49 | Xinhuan | but its accurate otherwise |
| 22:56.49 | Kivin | D: |
| 22:57.10 | Kivin | I'll give it a shot. I would seriously consider doing the legwork for talents if I like it |
| 22:57.15 | Xinhuan | i'm kinda lazy |
| 22:57.18 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.0 for screenshot |
| 22:57.35 | Xinhuan | also that screenshot is like v0.7 and about 4 months old |
| 22:59.26 | Xinhuan | time to sleep |
| 22:59.29 | Kivin | o/ |
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| 23:12.48 | Erica | Anyone have any idea why I'm getting the following error in Ora2? oRA2\Core.lua:51: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
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| 23:13.57 | Erica | I've tried everything I can think of to make it stop... getting rid of other mods, etc but it seems to come back at random |
| 23:15.30 | Erica | btw... Merry Christmas |
| 23:16.23 | Graawr | sup fellas |
| 23:16.46 | Erica | Seems most are busy or asleep :P |
| 23:18.10 | Thelyna | Erica: tried uninstalling all other mods (or just moving them to a non-wow directory) clearing savedvariables (or again, just move them out of the wow dir) and clearing cache? |
| 23:18.32 | Erica | Oh yeah |
| 23:18.39 | Erica | even repaired |
| 23:19.06 | Thelyna | that's .. weird |
| 23:19.29 | Erica | I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem so it's kinda driving me crazy |
| 23:19.42 | Keias | Thats weird o_O |
| 23:19.59 | Erica | only thing I can think of I may be doing differently is not using the default texture for player targets |
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| 23:20.54 | Erica | The error also mentions the tablet 2.0 library in bartender |
| 23:21.25 | ckknight | Erica: Merry Christmas |
| 23:21.39 | Erica | Thanks! |
| 23:22.14 | Erica | Hope you're doing well and not having to work to hard |
| 23:22.24 | Erica | too hard... lol |
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| 23:24.38 | Fin | does anyone know if there's a page on the wiki somewhere, or on wowwiki, or anywhere as long as it's wow addon-specific, that gives some general guidelines on writing good bug reports? |
| 23:27.34 | Matrix110 | Wikipedia is missing it atleast |
| 23:27.52 | Matrix110 | but i doubt there is a guideline of it |
| 23:28.11 | Matrix110 | because most authors request different information or value other information for bug reports different |
| 23:31.09 | Ozguli | blah |
| 23:31.25 | Ozguli | I can't get any other addon than flexbar to do what I want |
| 23:31.34 | Ozguli | and it's too hard for me to config |
| 23:31.41 | Matrix110 | But i think: Addon name, version/revision, (in case of ace2 addons) the libaries if they are embedded/external their revision, what the bug actually does or when it is happening, is it always happening at this action or was it just once, did you do anything special when it happened, which other Addons are you running |
| 23:32.16 | Matrix110 | oh and the actual error message if existant |
| 23:32.43 | Matrix110 | or if WoW crashes/dcs that you get that |
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| 23:36.35 | Amadeo | Happy Festivus |
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| 23:44.13 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57428 10KivinLootzor/ (KivinConsoleXP.toc consoleXP.lua consoleXP_config.lua): |
| 23:44.13 | CIA-8 | KivinLootzor: |
| 23:44.13 | CIA-8 | - Corrected ref to invalid file in toc. |
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