| 00:00.58 | exor674 | I also don't get why the top tier on the warlock Demonology tree are flagged as "filler" -- I think at least EVERY raiding warlock needs at least Demonic Embrace, and improved imp and HS are pretty nice too |
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| 00:13.11 | Provus | Hey, does anyone know how to get SpellAlert/SpellAlert SCT/WitchHunt to show up in duels? |
| 00:17.03 | Fisker- | MASSIVE WIN |
| 00:17.14 | Fisker- | http://i6.tinypic.com/6l24t1z.jpg |
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| 00:20.34 | chexsum | ugh |
| 00:37.32 | Pkekyo| | happy new year peeps! |
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| 00:56.26 | silentium | lol, Scrub flags 0/49/12 prot paladins as red because of "partial retribution spec" |
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| 00:59.24 | xyu` | Fisker-: your bags are way to gd organized. |
| 00:59.30 | xyu` | even my baggins isn't that organized :P |
| 01:00.34 | bigzero | "No Faerie Fire (Feral)" is RED for feral druids? |
| 01:01.19 | bigzero | idk if that's really so important for raiding |
| 01:04.05 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57739 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:04.05 | CIA-8 | AlarAutomation |
| 01:04.05 | CIA-8 | 3.2.0 |
| 01:04.05 | CIA-8 | Fixed: Moved Skip gossip to proper Interface enhancements section |
| 01:04.05 | CIA-8 | Feature: Most of AlarAutomation commands are now bindable |
| 01:04.06 | CIA-8 | Feature: QUICKFISH when you are fishing, displays a cast button for fishing |
| 01:04.08 | CIA-8 | after you catch your fish, at the point your cursor is, ready to be |
| 01:05.12 | Stan_ | -.- |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57740 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc localization-enUS.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-8 | 3.2.0 |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can automatically thanks people who heals you in battlegrounds. Antispam included (no more than 1 thanks every 4 minutes to the same one) |
| 01:06.21 | CIA-8 | Feature: Localization done. Now I need translators |
| 01:06.23 | CIA-8 | Feature: Eye of the Storm result prediction improved |
| 01:06.27 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can now hide Honor marks recap in Fubar text |
| 01:06.31 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.34 | Industrial | lol |
| 01:06.35 | Industrial | retarded |
| 01:06.37 | Stan_ | olol |
| 01:06.39 | Stan_ | pls die alar |
| 01:06.40 | Stan_ | NOW |
| 01:06.58 | CIA-8 | 03morgalm * r57741 10MorgDKP/plugins/morgdkp/Morgfunc.php: |
| 01:06.58 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
| 01:06.58 | CIA-8 | - Fix loop error during alias detection if no aliases in database |
| 01:07.00 | Industrial | its their job and they better do it right |
| 01:07.23 | Stan_ | "thanks people who heals you" <- awesome |
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| 01:17.47 | CIA-8 | 03morgalm * r57742 10MorgDKP/ (DKPInfo.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
| 01:17.47 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
| 01:17.47 | CIA-8 | - Forgot to update version# |
| 01:18.10 | dylanm | Industrial: Yeah true |
| 01:22.36 | haste | nice, it only took me 30min to take a boat in WoW! |
| 01:22.49 | haste | 'cause I was distracted by other stuff while waiting for on it :( |
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| 01:23.55 | CIA-8 | 03zuno * r57743 10UnitActionBars2/ (17 files in 4 dirs): |
| 01:23.55 | CIA-8 | UnitActionBars2: |
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| 01:23.55 | CIA-8 | - Cooldown detection and general status gained/lost fixes. |
| 01:32.22 | Vulcanus | Fisker-, you chinese goldfarmer you. Give me glod pplx |
| 01:48.41 | Pkekyo| | think flying mounts will be usable in wrap of the lizard king? |
| 01:49.09 | exor674 | they already confirmed they would be |
| 01:49.33 | Pkekyo| | so getting the epic flyer would be somewhat worth it...? |
| 01:50.18 | nevcairiel | they said it wont be usable up until 78 or so |
| 01:50.21 | nevcairiel | to not ruin the mood |
| 01:50.35 | nevcairiel | while discovering the world |
| 01:50.52 | Pkekyo| | so at lvl 78 you can just throw it away? |
| 01:51.15 | Pkekyo| | I hate it when people capitalize the first letter of every bloody word in a sentence >.< |
| 01:51.35 | nevcairiel | no you will not be able to use it from 70-78 |
| 01:51.50 | nevcairiel | so you discover the world walking through it |
| 01:51.51 | Matrix110 | *68 |
| 01:51.53 | nevcairiel | and not flying over |
| 01:51.55 | nevcairiel | no 78 |
| 01:52.11 | Matrix110 | i mean instead of 70 |
| 01:52.13 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 01:52.17 | Matrix110 | Druids cant fly aswell |
| 01:52.33 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 01:52.44 | Pkekyo| | oh wont |
| 01:52.50 | Pkekyo| | I need to l2read |
| 01:53.21 | Pkekyo| | "wont be usable up until 78 or so" <-- so you can use it when you pass a certain level again? |
| 01:53.59 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 01:54.10 | Matrix110 | atleast thats said so far |
| 01:54.27 | Matrix110 | maybe you need to buy Northrend mounts who knows:P |
| 01:54.32 | Pkekyo| | I should pop the 5k for the epic flyer in other words? |
| 01:54.34 | Pkekyo| | oh fuck me sideways |
| 01:54.46 | Pkekyo| | northrend mounts for 50k gold would be just like blizzard... |
| 01:54.50 | Matrix110 | nah |
| 01:54.54 | Matrix110 | more like 100g i guess :P |
| 01:55.01 | Matrix110 | just another model |
| 01:55.30 | Matrix110 | else it would sound a bit stupid "you cant use your existing mount till 78 because...uhm....we say so" |
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| 01:56.03 | Pkekyo| | that was my first though |
| 01:56.05 | Matrix110 | With needing to buy a new model they could atleast say: Outland flying mounts arent able flying in Northrend because the air is thinner :P |
| 01:56.06 | Fisker- | that's what they already said |
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| 01:56.26 | Fisker- | You don't have defroster on your mounts |
| 01:56.28 | Fisker- | you get pwnt |
| 01:56.31 | JP | happy new year everybody |
| 01:56.33 | glowsticky | Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm trying to copy addon setting from one character to another but it never works exactly the way it should. |
| 01:56.49 | Pkekyo| | happy new year JP |
| 01:56.55 | glowsticky | I use the profile manager thing in each individual addon, but the preferences never stick. |
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| 01:59.31 | glowsticky | I don't want to have to redo my setting for each addon for each character I might have. |
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| 02:04.01 | JP | glowsticky: maybe you could try to go to WTF\Account\<accountname>\<servername>\<charname>\ and copy everything to the folder of the other char |
| 02:04.44 | JP | glowsticky: but that's just an idea. - (that dir does include the savedvariables that are char based, so it should contain addon settings that are char based..) but just a guess.. since no one else had an idea. |
| 02:04.56 | glowsticky | Alright, thanks JP. |
| 02:04.56 | JP | glowsticky: if you try it.. make backups :) |
| 02:05.19 | glowsticky | I'm not too worried about backups; if I screw it up, I'll just end up redoing it anyway. |
| 02:05.36 | glowsticky | I have a few alts and I don't want to spend 3 hours for each one getting stuff perfect. |
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| 02:09.00 | glowsticky | Damn, didn't work. |
| 02:09.09 | glowsticky | Closed game and everything. |
| 02:10.58 | JP | hm sorry, if that doesn't do the trick i am clueless. |
| 02:10.59 | CIA-8 | 03daviesh * r57744 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 02:10.59 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 02:10.59 | CIA-8 | -Bug fixed for the loot browser |
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| 02:14.39 | glowsticky | er |
| 02:14.42 | glowsticky | isn't* |
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| 03:07.15 | Zhinjio | Good evening. |
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| 03:13.27 | xyu` | sdaf |
| 03:13.40 | Osstia|mac | hello |
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| 03:21.53 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57745 10Postal/Modules/BlackBook.lua: Postal: - Fix contact removing to work in BlackBook. |
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| 03:41.57 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57747 10Postal/Modules/Select.lua: Postal: - Remove the "Delete Mail" debug message. |
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| 03:53.36 | Zhinjio | Good evening ck, Orionshock |
| 03:53.44 | Zhinjio | Happy New Year's Eve |
| 03:53.44 | Orionshock | :D |
| 03:53.55 | Zhinjio | actually, ck, are you over the dateline? |
| 03:54.05 | Orionshock | iirc he is not |
| 03:54.08 | Zhinjio | I don't remember if it is or not |
| 03:55.24 | Orionshock | NeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/tf2u4ueuj355k |
| 03:55.38 | Orionshock | thats a report from gruul's lair the other day |
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| 04:20.38 | buu | Yeow. |
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| 04:38.03 | Codayus | Orionshock: Um....interesting wws parse. |
| 04:38.12 | Orionshock | lol why? |
| 04:38.35 | Codayus | Big variance in the performance within some classes. |
| 04:38.46 | Orionshock | ya... no kidding :D |
| 04:39.42 | Codayus | Your best hunter did 650 dps...which is, um...passable if your a guild just starting 25 man content, although not great. |
| 04:39.52 | Codayus | Then...there's your other hunters. >.> |
| 04:39.55 | Orionshock | ya we're new |
| 04:40.11 | Codayus | No criticism from me over that. |
| 04:40.31 | Orionshock | and blood is one of the better geared hunters |
| 04:41.01 | Codayus | Ouch |
| 04:41.17 | Orionshock | not sure if desent is in all epics |
| 04:41.30 | Orionshock | nope , mostly blues |
| 04:41.37 | Orionshock | the other 2 are epic'ed out |
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| 04:44.34 | Codayus | Blood... Way too few steady shots, way too little dps from his pet. Both are doing too many multishots. And serpent sting? lol. Blood also has a bad spec, max raid DPS is 41/20/0 not 41/0/20. oO And Raeyn is....42/0/19? wtf |
| 04:45.05 | Codayus | Lern2notcometogruuls as pvp spec? oO |
| 04:46.17 | Codayus | Blood didn't max serpent swiftness? Way to not max the single strongest talent your class has... |
| 04:47.51 | Codayus | Blood has a stamina libram on his helm. No enchant on his weapon. His gear is mostly much better than I expected. He needs the Opera gun, instead of Attumans xbow, but he should still be capable of turning out up to 1k dps on gruul, with proper enchants and gems. |
| 04:47.57 | Codayus | Wait, his BOW isn't scoped. oO |
| 04:49.04 | Codayus | Stamina enchant on chest, stamina enchant AND gem on bracers, stamina enchant on gloves, stamina kit on legs, and a stamina gem, stamina enchant on boots |
| 04:49.05 | Orionshock | ... some one said that trapping is more important >? |
| 04:49.16 | Codayus | Heh |
| 04:49.52 | Codayus | ....what? |
| 04:51.26 | Orionshock | ... ya go figure... |
| 04:51.48 | Orionshock | and you want to know the really really bad part? |
| 04:52.08 | Orionshock | none of them can really take any critisisum on improveing their game |
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| 04:52.21 | Xuerian | That's pretty much normal... |
| 04:52.27 | Xuerian | In wow, anyway. |
| 04:52.48 | Codayus | Heh |
| 04:53.05 | Codayus | Armory is stuffed, or I'd link our top hunters armory profile. |
| 04:53.29 | Codayus | His gear is similar to Blood's. Several items the same...he's basically just got Kara and Arena gear. |
| 04:53.49 | Codayus | He's been breaking 1k dps on gruul for a long time. :-/ |
| 04:54.36 | Orionshock | and now we're getting our asses handed to us in WSG... |
| 04:54.37 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 04:54.49 | Orionshock | pvp is so one sided to melee |
| 04:54.54 | Orionshock | .. no correction |
| 04:55.19 | Gngsk | is it possible to tell /click to do a right click instead of a left click? |
| 04:55.20 | Orionshock | pvp is fucked sideways to pure classes and the bitching of 12yr olds that need to /wirsts |
| 04:55.38 | Codayus | We're a very casual guild...the way we handle things is mostly by example. |
| 04:55.55 | Codayus | Make sure the officers know what they're doing, then always log and post WWS parses. |
| 04:56.00 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57748 10Postal/Modules/ (OpenAll.lua Select.lua): Postal: - Fix an obscure bug where it sometimes opens unselected mail on a slow opening speed. |
| 04:56.59 | Xinhuan | apparantly, using the same algorithm on OpenAll doesn't really work on Selective mail |
| 04:57.16 | Xinhuan | and opening mail speed and server response affects results |
| 04:57.43 | Fin | Xinhuan: did you see my request about adding the Barrel of Fish and Crate of Meat to OpenAll's list of thingsthatitopens? :) |
| 04:57.59 | Xinhuan | no, go away pfft |
| 04:58.04 | Fin | ? |
| 04:58.06 | Fin | eh |
| 04:58.14 | Xinhuan | i'll mail you 20 barrels of fish! |
| 04:58.32 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 04:58.56 | Fin | uhm, OK, fair enough, it's your addon... I just thought it was for saving time and removing minor annoyances - sorry |
| 04:59.07 | Xinhuan | when did you ever make such a request |
| 04:59.15 | Fin | in the WoWI thread |
| 04:59.19 | Fin | I believe |
| 04:59.31 | Fin | maybe I got confused and posted it to the OpenStuff thread instead |
| 04:59.36 | Xinhuan | i don't even know Postal is on WoWi |
| 04:59.49 | Fin | Postal? |
| 05:00.14 | Fin | yep, I did say OpenAll :) |
| 05:00.40 | Xinhuan | OpenAll is a separate addon by someone else, not me |
| 05:00.47 | Fin | ohh |
| 05:00.47 | Xinhuan | the OpenAll i was referring to, is a submodule in Postal |
| 05:00.49 | Fin | pardon me then |
| 05:00.52 | Fin | aha, righto |
| 05:00.57 | Fin | my apologies |
| 05:01.21 | Xinhuan | and has some sort of selective "opening all" rules |
| 05:01.23 | Fin | your response makes a bit more sense now |
| 05:02.57 | Xinhuan | what features does that OpenAll have? |
| 05:03.36 | Fin | basically, when you loot something that you normally just open (like a crate or a clamshell or something), it automatically opens it for you and takes the contents out |
| 05:03.48 | Fin | it's only a small thing, but it's dead handy |
| 05:03.58 | Xinhuan | ah, so its nothing to do with mail right? |
| 05:04.05 | Fin | nup |
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| 05:04.22 | Xinhuan | does it have "exclude" lists? |
| 05:04.44 | Xinhuan | sometimes you dont' want to open items because it is a quest item with 4 items inside, until you actually do that quest |
| 05:05.06 | Xinhuan | if you get what i mean |
| 05:05.32 | Fin | no, there's only a very small number of items in the game that are actually in the slightest bit common that it's worth automatically opening |
| 05:05.44 | kergoth | love that little addon. mainly for clams |
| 05:05.47 | kergoth | <3 |
| 05:05.55 | Fin | I think it does, uhm, clamshells, sludge, and uhm |
| 05:05.59 | Fin | maybe one other thing |
| 05:06.05 | Xinhuan | lockboxes? |
| 05:06.13 | Fin | not if they're locked |
| 05:06.14 | kergoth | dont think it does lockboxes, would be nice though |
| 05:06.26 | Xinhuan | i do like mail a rogue 10 lockboxes |
| 05:06.29 | Xinhuan | he unlocks them |
| 05:06.30 | Fin | that requires a hardware event |
| 05:06.32 | Xinhuan | and mails them all back unlocked |
| 05:06.50 | Xinhuan | i.e i'm taking the lockboxes out of my mail unlocked |
| 05:07.09 | Xinhuan | shouldn't openall then open these unlocked boxes? |
| 05:07.10 | Fin | that's how it should be done |
| 05:07.22 | Fin | most rogues actually open the boxes and give the loot back |
| 05:07.23 | Fin | erm |
| 05:07.26 | Fin | yeah, it should |
| 05:07.28 | Fin | not sure if it does |
| 05:07.35 | kergoth | i think the openall addon only goes by bag update events, and doesnt watch for the lock pick spellcast to rescan the bags |
| 05:07.42 | Fin | kergoth: clams and the sludge from the netherwing mines :) |
| 05:07.43 | kergoth | so you'd have to move the box to get it to open it |
| 05:07.44 | Xinhuan | most rogues i know trades the lockboxes back in lockbox form |
| 05:07.54 | Xinhuan | they don't actually open the lockbox and take the stuff in it |
| 05:07.59 | Xinhuan | so it could be your server culture thing |
| 05:08.08 | Fin | well, yeah, trading is different :) |
| 05:08.19 | Xinhuan | yep but its the same for mailing |
| 05:08.26 | Xinhuan | most rogues just mail the entire thing back as a lockbox |
| 05:08.31 | Fin | I know of one guy who is quite the thief |
| 05:08.48 | Fin | he accepts all sorts of locked boxes, and nicks stuff out of them all the time |
| 05:08.49 | Xinhuan | once it bugged out and a rogue managed to mail an empty lockbox |
| 05:08.55 | Fin | I think, well, shit, he is a rogue |
| 05:08.58 | Xinhuan | so on the receiving end |
| 05:09.04 | Xinhuan | he got a lockbox with nothing in it |
| 05:09.08 | Fin | oh dear |
| 05:09.15 | Xinhuan | opening it does nothing, because there's nothing in it |
| 05:09.20 | Xinhuan | and the lockbox doesn't self-disappear |
| 05:09.21 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:09.27 | Fin | have you ever tried to sell a lockbox on the AH? |
| 05:09.34 | Xinhuan | HAHA |
| 05:09.37 | Xinhuan | no |
| 05:09.46 | Fin | I have |
| 05:09.49 | Fin | someone paid 5g once |
| 05:09.52 | exor674 | locked or unlocked? |
| 05:09.56 | Fin | locked! |
| 05:10.00 | Xinhuan | the buyer can't tell if its locked or unlocked |
| 05:10.03 | Fin | no fun otherwise |
| 05:10.14 | Xinhuan | you could unlock it, check, and then sell it |
| 05:10.25 | Fin | I also sold a letter once |
| 05:10.42 | Xinhuan | "From the desk of Nefarian" |
| 05:10.43 | Fin | oh! and wrapped things |
| 05:10.58 | Fin | buy some wrapping paper and wrap something up to sell |
| 05:11.23 | Xinhuan | so a bunch of guilds were complaining on the forums |
| 05:11.30 | Xinhuan | that they could not put wrapped items into the guild bank |
| 05:11.31 | Fin | we did some sort of lucky dip thing once, put a whole bunch of things up with two blues and one epic, started drumming up customers in trade chat |
| 05:11.39 | Fin | oh, really? |
| 05:11.43 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 05:11.49 | Xinhuan | you can't mail wrapped items either |
| 05:11.50 | Fin | I was hoping to be able to put conjured food and water in |
| 05:11.59 | Xinhuan | you can't wrap any stackable item either |
| 05:12.00 | Fin | you used to be able to mail wrapped items, I think? |
| 05:12.10 | Xinhuan | they removed it cos ppl used wrapped gifts as "CoD" |
| 05:12.14 | Xinhuan | to scam people |
| 05:12.21 | Fin | oh, yeah |
| 05:12.23 | Fin | that sucks |
| 05:12.44 | Xinhuan | these guilds wanted some sort of lucky draw thing where everyone puts in a wrapped item into the guildbank |
| 05:12.51 | Xinhuan | and everyone also has "withdraw 1 item" rights |
| 05:12.57 | Xinhuan | so it was like random gift giving |
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| 05:13.10 | Xinhuan | but since you couldn't put wrapped items in the guildbank, that kinda failed |
| 05:13.33 | ulic | fun idea though |
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| 05:18.47 | Xinhuan | i should fix up my 2-player "tetris" like mod |
| 05:18.52 | Xinhuan | and challenge ppl |
| 05:19.46 | Fin | someone uploaded a whole set of those crappy games and an "arcade" game manager thing, to wowui recently |
| 05:20.16 | ulic | there is one on wowace, GameLobby or something like that |
| 05:20.22 | Xinhuan | mine isn't crappy, its 2-player challenge each other game, real time, with smooth sliding action :D |
| 05:20.39 | Xinhuan | you actually see the blocks drop down as they explode! |
| 05:20.43 | Xinhuan | not blink down |
| 05:20.47 | Fin | it's crappy |
| 05:20.49 | Fin | no offence mate |
| 05:20.56 | Fin | but tetris is crappy |
| 05:21.02 | Xinhuan | its not tetris |
| 05:21.06 | Xinhuan | its puzzle fighter |
| 05:21.07 | Fin | I mean, compared to the game you're actually playing |
| 05:21.10 | Xinhuan | the one you play in arcade |
| 05:21.31 | Xinhuan | where you build up huge chunks of colored gems and explode them with a colored breaker |
| 05:21.42 | Xinhuan | to add them to your enemy |
| 05:22.06 | Fin | this massive world where we can battle demons and harness the very forces of life itself and bend it to our will, it sort of, uhm |
| 05:22.26 | Xinhuan | lets see if i can find a screenshot ;p |
| 05:22.27 | Fin | s/it/them/ |
| 05:22.36 | Fin | hmm, I never get those righg |
| 05:22.38 | Fin | -g |
| 05:22.42 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/puzzlefighter1.jpg |
| 05:22.43 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/puzzlefighter2.jpg |
| 05:23.00 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/puzzlefighter3.jpg |
| 05:23.06 | kergoth | i should play some tetrinet one of these days, that was a fun game |
| 05:23.21 | Xinhuan | hey kergoth, lets write a ingame versin of tetrinet :D |
| 05:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 05:23.52 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait wrong channel |
| 05:24.10 | kergoth | hmm i should try some of those in wow games, i sit in town by the ah more than i play half the time, it seems |
| 05:24.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:24.29 | Xinhuan | i finished 0.9 of puzzle fighter just ebfore patch 2.0 |
| 05:24.43 | Fin | s |
| 05:24.53 | Fin | ohh yeah, I remember seeing puzzle fighter, very nice |
| 05:25.01 | Fin | much less crappy than many |
| 05:25.15 | Xinhuan | but patch 2.0 broke it and i didn't fix it |
| 05:25.18 | Xinhuan | so i never released it |
| 05:26.43 | Xinhuan | the "rotate piece" logic made my head explode |
| 05:26.48 | Xinhuan | since you had to do matrix math on it |
| 05:26.55 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 05:27.09 | Xinhuan | and then check for collisions |
| 05:27.16 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone have an idea why this macrosequence macro takes way too fucking long to reset: http://pastey.net/79863 ? |
| 05:28.17 | Xinhuan | at the time i wrote puzzle fighter, it didn't have SendAddonMessage() |
| 05:28.29 | Xinhuan | so it is done purely by PMs and hooking chat functions to hide all the PMs lol |
| 05:29.03 | Xinhuan | then patch 2.0 came out and changed all that, so i never bothered |
| 05:29.35 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht, you should ask cogwheel |
| 05:29.38 | Gngsk | anyone know how to simulate a right click on a frame using /click ? |
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| 05:30.39 | Xinhuan | not sure if [button:2] works |
| 05:32.03 | Gngsk | tried it, sure doesn't |
| 05:32.24 | Xinhuan | i dont' think its possible then, even in lua code, button:Click() doesn't take any arguments |
| 05:32.58 | Gngsk | but cog's guide says it's possible! |
| 05:32.59 | Gngsk | just doesn't say how |
| 05:33.42 | Gngsk | From the simulating button clicks section: The /click command takes the name of a button and acts like you clicked the button with your mouse. By default, it behaves like a left-click, but you can specify other mouse buttons in the command. |
| 05:34.07 | Gngsk | but it gives no info on how |
| 05:34.42 | Gngsk | oh god |
| 05:34.44 | Gngsk | I'm blind |
| 05:34.57 | Gngsk | /click FrameName RightButton |
| 05:35.09 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:35.19 | Xinhuan | there, i learnt something today! |
| 05:35.26 | Gngsk | :D |
| 05:35.51 | Gngsk | MiddleButton, Button4 and Button5 are also valid args |
| 05:37.57 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:29] <Xinhuan> sag_ich_nicht, you should ask cogwheel <--works now, i was dumb |
| 05:38.20 | Xinhuan | what was the issue? something like using seconds= instead of reset= ? |
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| 05:58.47 | Fin | so... close... |
| 05:59.01 | Fin | 347 fishing |
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| 06:19.13 | Neebler | at midnight I plan to follow my tradition of clipping my toenails. to bring in the new year |
| 06:24.41 | bigzero | once a year thing? |
| 06:25.11 | nymbia | ew |
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| 06:42.52 | Thelyna | ~seen Tekkub |
| 06:42.54 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 10h 27m 46s ago, saying: 'moo?'. |
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| 07:03.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:38] <Xinhuan> what was the issue? something like using seconds= instead of reset= ? <--no, me being dumb and not casting seal of the crusader before pressing the macro |
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| 07:17.31 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57749 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: |
| 07:17.31 | CIA-8 | BankItems: |
| 07:17.31 | CIA-8 | - Add a :Show() to force tooltip repainting after adding tooltip information. |
| 07:17.32 | CIA-8 | - *Very* aggressively cache tooltip text that is added for performance (slight memory increase). |
| 07:17.32 | CIA-8 | - Switched method of hooking tooltips to improve performance (credit to Siz). |
| 07:17.32 | CIA-8 | - Rebuild alt-cache on returning items to an existing alt. |
| 07:17.36 | CIA-8 | - Remove unnecessary self-cache rebuilding on closing the mailbox. |
| 07:18.39 | harldephin | damn. it's 2008. again. |
| 07:21.07 | ulic | again? you've been here before? |
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| 07:21.33 | exor674 | eek! harldephin isa time traveler |
| 07:21.44 | harldephin | i have. i was. i am. will be. choose. |
| 07:21.50 | harldephin | yes |
| 07:25.25 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57750 10Postal/Modules/OpenAll.lua: Postal: - Fix nil error in OpenAll. Silly cut and paste error... |
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| 07:31.10 | DAVEY2 | hello |
| 07:32.07 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57751 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Re-add self-cache rebuilding on closing the mailbox. It was necessary after all. |
| 07:33.04 | Davey2 | is there anyone here who would like to put an idea of mine into practice? i tried starting the development about 8 months ago, but it failed after a period |
| 07:33.16 | sag_ich_nicht | shoot. |
| 07:33.18 | Davey2 | not having the knowledge doesn't help |
| 07:33.24 | Xinhuan | depends on how hard it is, and whether its worth doing it |
| 07:33.52 | Davey2 | well considering some of the addons i've seen, i'd say it was easy scale. although for me, that would be near impossible lol |
| 07:34.11 | Xinhuan | something that is easy, may nto really be easy at all |
| 07:34.21 | Davey2 | its simply a statistic recorder for battleground data taken straight from the end-game table |
| 07:34.39 | Xinhuan | purpose? |
| 07:35.26 | Davey2 | i've not seen an addon which has what i was looking for. statistics like: flags captured, towers captured/defended, kills, deaths, maybe honor, wins, losses, games played. segregated into: all games, and each type of battleground |
| 07:35.48 | Davey2 | and honor marks gained total |
| 07:36.16 | Xinhuan | i think the answer as to why nobody has done such an addon would be because it doesn't really serve any purpose to record such statistics ;d |
| 07:36.31 | Davey2 | i had the jist of it, i created part of it |
| 07:36.37 | Davey2 | although i don't have it now |
| 07:37.13 | Davey2 | i got stumped on the way that when you read data from the table, sometimes it didn't record properly. i realised it must be due to the fact there are little images in the table |
| 07:37.30 | Davey2 | must have been reading the image instead of the data |
| 07:37.49 | Davey2 | it's a shame because i was doing well with it :/ |
| 07:37.57 | Xinhuan | has nothing to do with that, if you want to read the table, you dn't actually do it by reading the table, you call the function that returns the data |
| 07:38.02 | Davey2 | was my first 'project' too |
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| 07:38.53 | Davey2 | hmm maybe it was a long time ago for me, i dont remember how i even began it to be honest |
| 07:39.21 | Davey2 | happy new year by the way |
| 07:40.06 | Xinhuan | what you want to do is to look inside the default UI code in WorldStateFrame.lua |
| 07:40.15 | Xinhuan | and see how blizzard writes the info and call the same functions |
| 07:40.33 | Tekkub | meh? |
| 07:40.45 | Xinhuan | in most cases, you want a loop that stores |
| 07:40.46 | Xinhuan | name, killingBlows, honorableKills, deaths, honorGained, faction, rank, race, class, classToken, damageDone, healingDone = GetBattlefieldScore(index); |
| 07:40.57 | Xinhuan | where index is from 1 to (number of players in battleground) |
| 07:41.04 | Davey2 | i think i may have tried doing that, but like i say i wasn't really "experienced" or talented enough to do it properly |
| 07:42.10 | bigzero | wait...so this addon would collect data for a bunch of players, but it would only be meaningful for you, because other player data would be totaly inaccurate? |
| 07:42.21 | Davey2 | no, only your own |
| 07:42.44 | bigzero | sounds like something to add to Historian |
| 07:43.05 | bigzero | some of that may already be implemented |
| 07:43.26 | Xinhuan | Historian records some of the silliest things lol |
| 07:43.42 | Davey2 | never even heard of that, linky? |
| 07:43.52 | bigzero | files.wowace.com |
| 07:44.47 | bigzero | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Historian |
| 07:45.51 | bigzero | but yeah Xinhuan, this might be too serious of a statistic for Historian |
| 07:46.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [08:40] <+Tekkub> meh? <--hi. |
| 07:47.13 | sag_ich_nicht | small request: option to hide the tourguide frame. |
| 07:47.29 | Tekkub | great idea, too bad it's not in my tracker :P |
| 07:47.45 | bigzero | lol |
| 07:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't need to be. |
| 07:47.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan, tell him. |
| 07:48.23 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, did CDT2 ever get fixed? |
| 07:48.43 | sag_ich_nicht | kind of but not |
| 07:48.47 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks to Xinhuan btw. |
| 07:48.58 | Davey2 | i hope they add new tracking type: low level quests |
| 07:48.58 | Xinhuan | it never got fixed, however i narrowed down the issue |
| 07:49.10 | Xinhuan | and "fixed it" |
| 07:49.11 | bigzero | what was it? |
| 07:49.12 | sag_ich_nicht | sec. mobs |
| 07:49.21 | bigzero | meh..actually nvm..idc |
| 07:49.35 | bigzero | that addon was a pain to read |
| 07:49.45 | Thrae | Ugh. OK, time to do some work. |
| 07:50.11 | Xinhuan | the 2 issues was 1. using 2 globals instead of 2 locals 2. the aceoptconfig table was for WaterFall and incompatible to RockConfig, i wrote a recursive function that copies every "wfHidden" field to the missing "hidden" field |
| 07:50.13 | Xinhuan | to make it work |
| 07:50.35 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 07:50.39 | sag_ich_nicht | then we found that |
| 07:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | the god damn thing doesn't have all the options anyway |
| 07:51.09 | sag_ich_nicht | because menu.lua actually contains all of the options, while options.lua does not -.- |
| 07:51.25 | bigzero | lol |
| 07:52.32 | Xinhuan | because dewdrop uses the aceopt table in menu.lua |
| 07:52.44 | Xinhuan | while waterfall/rockconfig used the aceopt table in options.lua |
| 07:52.45 | sag_ich_nicht | so what would actually need to be done is re-write the config system of CDT2 with all the options from menu.lua, kill options.lua and menu.lua and replace it with uh let's say config.lua and just properly provide the aceoptions table to dewdrop/waterfall/rock/whatever the fuck you use |
| 07:53.08 | Xinhuan | no, the stupid fact is that the entire aceopt table in menu.lua would also work in dewdrop |
| 07:53.14 | Xinhuan | i mean options.lua |
| 07:53.18 | Xinhuan | no, the stupid fact is that the entire aceopt table in options.lua would also work in dewdrop |
| 07:53.20 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 07:53.26 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, but |
| 07:53.33 | Xinhuan | the author only needed dewdrop:InjectAceOptTable() |
| 07:53.37 | sag_ich_nicht | the aceopt table from options.lua is incomplete |
| 07:53.42 | sag_ich_nicht | the one from menu.lua is not |
| 07:53.43 | Xinhuan | instead of using a few million AddLines() |
| 07:54.12 | sag_ich_nicht | that too |
| 07:54.45 | Xinhuan | so at the end of it, i don't intend to update an addon that i don't use ;p |
| 07:55.26 | sag_ich_nicht | thus: take all the content of menu.lua, write a new aceopt table from it, kill options.lua and menu.lua and put said table in a new file called config.lua (or just wipe options.lua or menu.lua and put it there and kill the other one) |
| 07:55.36 | sag_ich_nicht | are you up for it bigzero? :O |
| 07:55.44 | Xinhuan | nah the stuff in options.lua is usable |
| 07:55.55 | Davey2 | how about http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_HonorFu/FuBar_HonorFu-r56531.10.zip i just noticed |
| 07:56.02 | Xinhuan | only needed to convert that portion of the stuff is menu.lua that isn't in options.lua |
| 07:56.04 | Davey2 | anyone happen to know if that's what i am looking for? |
| 07:56.06 | Xinhuan | which was just 4 subtables |
| 07:56.09 | sag_ich_nicht | or that :X |
| 07:56.16 | chexsum | honorfu is cool |
| 07:56.24 | chexsum | ive always had it |
| 07:56.40 | Davey2 | it says Keeps track of honor and PvP statistics. does anyone know what statistics? |
| 07:56.43 | Xinhuan | honorfu only records your win/lose racord |
| 07:56.45 | chexsum | if you want auto bg joining etc get battlegroundfu also |
| 07:56.47 | Xinhuan | for each BG |
| 07:56.55 | Davey2 | ah okay. |
| 07:56.56 | chexsum | and if you want arena points arenafu :P |
| 07:56.57 | Xinhuan | it does not record details of each game |
| 07:57.00 | Xinhuan | just the win/loss ratio |
| 07:57.06 | Thrae | Or, SSPVP2. |
| 07:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: and find/replace the whole wfHidden with hidden |
| 07:57.15 | Xinhuan | by pvp statistics, it just estimates the honor you gained today |
| 07:57.20 | Arrowmaster | honorfu doesnt record or keep track of anything, glorylib does |
| 07:57.43 | Xinhuan | yep but glorylib could be embedded inside honorfu if running embedded |
| 07:57.47 | chexsum | yea you can just get glorylib and use its slash command if you want |
| 07:57.55 | Xinhuan | if that happens, honorfu takes the SV of glorylib as its own |
| 07:58.01 | sag_ich_nicht | because i don't like the error spam from ace2khaos before the copy function has run(not that it matters, but... :O!) |
| 07:58.04 | Xinhuan | its kind of a fucked up system |
| 07:58.32 | Xinhuan | since that means multiple embedded glorylibs in multiple addons all get recorded |
| 07:59.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:59.30 | Arrowmaster | it all shares a single saved var |
| 07:59.30 | chexsum | yes~! |
| 07:59.44 | Xinhuan | not when wow saves it Arrowmaster |
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| 08:00.00 | Arrowmaster | true not when saving to disk |
| 08:00.11 | Arrowmaster | but when wow is running its all one single var |
| 08:00.21 | Xinhuan | if you had 2 addons point to the table as its SV, that table gets written twice |
| 08:00.29 | Xinhuan | the problem comes when you enable one of these addons and disable the other |
| 08:00.31 | chexsum | so ? |
| 08:00.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah the tracking isnt ment to be persistant |
| 08:00.55 | Xinhuan | so when loading, it loads one copy, and not the other, if you reenable the other copy, if it loads second, it overwrites the first copy's more updated data |
| 08:01.14 | Xinhuan | hence its "screwed up" |
| 08:01.27 | Arrowmaster | its mainly there for keeping track of the names and amount of time youve killed people per day for estimating honor |
| 08:02.28 | Xinhuan | it can be "fixed" somewhat by adding a timestamp |
| 08:02.38 | Xinhuan | so a less updated copy doesn't overwrite |
| 08:02.41 | Antiar1 | Happy new year, all MST or later! |
| 08:02.51 | Arrowmaster | it would be a hacky method |
| 08:02.53 | Shadowed | GloryLib is a horrible monster of a library anyway fyi |
| 08:02.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah it is |
| 08:03.09 | nymbia | yeah its out of control |
| 08:03.13 | Arrowmaster | its one of the earlist ace2 libs |
| 08:03.23 | Shadowed | it's not even about control |
| 08:03.58 | Shadowed | anything it does is basically useless as a library since pvp things you could libraryerize are fairly small |
| 08:04.51 | Xinhuan | now now, people like to make libraries out of everything! |
| 08:05.01 | Shadowed | actually |
| 08:05.02 | Shadowed | glorylib is ckk |
| 08:05.10 | Xinhuan | GratuityLib anyone? |
| 08:05.22 | harldephin | lol |
| 08:05.27 | Shadowed | and hyper and elkano |
| 08:05.32 | Davey2 | so what do i do with glorylib? i need to code addon to use it or what? |
| 08:05.36 | Shadowed | when sedatedChipmunk is back, tell him he sucks |
| 08:05.42 | Shadowed | someone |
| 08:05.45 | Xinhuan | Davey2, it doesn't do what you want, dont' bother |
| 08:05.55 | harldephin | write a memo. |
| 08:06.22 | Shadowed | isn't gratuitylib for tooltips? |
| 08:06.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: write a botmail |
| 08:06.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail |
| 08:06.31 | Xinhuan | yes, its a library for tooltip scanning |
| 08:06.34 | Shadowed | botmail for hyperChimpmunk: DIE IN A FIRE |
| 08:06.35 | Davey2 | Xinhuan i dunno having looked at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Glory-2.0 it looks like it can accomplish what i need a little easier |
| 08:06.37 | sag_ich_nicht | gah, just you do it, he prints out the info code in query |
| 08:06.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 08:06.41 | Shadowed | stupid bot |
| 08:06.43 | Shadowed | what good is he |
| 08:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | put a ~ in front of it |
| 08:06.54 | Shadowed | purl should read my mind damnit |
| 08:07.00 | Shadowed | ~botmail for hyperChimpmunk: DIE IN A FIRE! |
| 08:07.06 | Xinhuan | the purpose was more of a "have every addon use the same tooltip for scanning items" instead of one hidden tooltip object per addon |
| 08:07.06 | Shadowed | excellent |
| 08:07.11 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 08:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | you typo'd there. |
| 08:07.20 | Shadowed | nope that did it, purl messaged me |
| 08:07.24 | sag_ich_nicht | it's Chipmunk, not Chimpmunk. |
| 08:07.29 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 08:07.36 | Shadowed | ~botmail for hyperChipmunk: DIE IN A FIRE! |
| 08:07.41 | Shadowed | their we go |
| 08:07.46 | sag_ich_nicht | that took way too long. |
| 08:07.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Shadowed |
| 08:07.52 | purl | Shadowed: Fail. |
| 08:08.06 | Shadowed | botmail only works when the person actually changes their name for status |
| 08:08.08 | Shadowed | anyway |
| 08:08.11 | Shadowed | and only crazy people do that |
| 08:08.26 | harldephin | :-x |
| 08:09.29 | harldephin | well.. good night |
| 08:09.38 | Zhinjio | trying to decide if I want to level, or write the syncing code. |
| 08:09.40 | harl|away | (moo) |
| 08:09.55 | sag_ich_nicht | write the syncing code, duh. |
| 08:10.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ~diaf harl|away |
| 08:10.02 | Shadowed | syncing code sucks |
| 08:10.05 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 08:10.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ~diaf |
| 08:10.07 | purl | ACTION refuses to die! |
| 08:10.08 | Shadowed | go screw around |
| 08:10.37 | Zhinjio | 5 bubbles from 68 on my shaman. |
| 08:10.41 | Zhinjio | hrm. |
| 08:10.46 | Zhinjio | I need to get this code done. |
| 08:11.16 | Shadowed | naw |
| 08:11.18 | Shadowed | it can be done in a week |
| 08:11.38 | Zhinjio | I've been procrastinating for awhile already. |
| 08:12.26 | Shadowed | exactly |
| 08:12.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ~hypnotoad |
| 08:12.29 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
| 08:12.29 | Shadowed | another few weeks won't hurt |
| 08:12.41 | Gngsk | ~doomed |
| 08:12.43 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 08:12.44 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it, purl really does have an alias for everything. |
| 08:12.50 | Gngsk | Dooooooomed! |
| 08:12.53 | Codayus | ~everything |
| 08:13.12 | Codayus | qq |
| 08:13.36 | harl|away | ~purl |
| 08:13.37 | purl | See ~purl |
| 08:13.46 | harl|away | great. -.- |
| 08:13.50 | Codayus | ~fail purl |
| 08:13.51 | purl | purl: Fail. |
| 08:13.53 | harl|away | now i'm stuck in a loop. |
| 08:14.32 | harl|away | ah doesn't matter really. who isn't. |
| 08:15.03 | sag_ich_nicht | purl no, doomed is <action> feels impending doom. |
| 08:15.04 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: okay |
| 08:15.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ~doomed |
| 08:15.07 | purl | ACTION feels impending doom. |
| 08:15.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 08:15.14 | sag_ich_nicht | that doesn't sound quite right |
| 08:15.17 | sag_ich_nicht | help me out here :X |
| 08:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | the impending doom would be right, but then it's dumb too :/ |
| 08:16.15 | Codayus | Hmmmm |
| 08:16.49 | Codayus | Pehraps |
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| 08:17.32 | Codayus | ...make purl say somethingabout "Repent! The end is upon us!"? |
| 08:17.40 | Codayus | Takes the joke in a different direction. |
| 08:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | hm.. no. |
| 08:17.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ~doom |
| 08:17.54 | purl | ACTION stalks sag_ich_nicht, chanting doom on you, doom on you! |
| 08:18.09 | sag_ich_nicht | purl no, doomed is <action> has feeling of impending doom. |
| 08:18.09 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: okay |
| 08:18.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ~purl |
| 08:18.13 | purl | See ~purl |
| 08:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 08:18.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ~doomed |
| 08:18.18 | purl | ACTION has feeling of impending doom. |
| 08:18.23 | sag_ich_nicht | does that sound about right? :) |
| 08:18.33 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 08:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | purl no, doomed is <action> has a feeling of impending doom. |
| 08:18.37 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: okay |
| 08:18.38 | sag_ich_nicht | there. |
| 08:18.45 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 08:18.57 | Codayus | Was just typing the grammar correction. :-) |
| 08:20.00 | Lukian | ~bee |
| 08:20.01 | purl | methinks bee is soon going to be converted to a Linux chick by Jenson whether she likes it or not |
| 08:20.20 | Lukian | ~deathbee |
| 08:24.00 | Zhinjio | sync code is going to make me want to cry |
| 08:24.06 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna level for a bit. |
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| 09:04.13 | Thrae | Going to recode this mess of non-commented code that was only half made by me. Woohoo! |
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| 09:21.43 | Xinhuan | the time for procastination is over |
| 09:21.51 | Xinhuan | (time to add talents to wowequip) |
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| 09:27.10 | todd | sigh @ eepanels.. two panels set to the same height are... different heights =/ |
| 09:28.48 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 09:29.00 | Xinhuan | your scale must be different on each panel then |
| 09:29.17 | Xinhuan | or parented to a frame with a different effectivescale |
| 09:30.34 | todd | one is parented to my player frame, the other is parented to my target frame, both of those are set to 100% scale |
| 09:30.52 | Xinhuan | yes but their parents might not be the same scale |
| 09:31.01 | Xinhuan | do a :GetEffectiveScale() on both of your panels |
| 09:31.31 | Xinhuan | and see if they are equal |
| 09:31.58 | Xinhuan | Scale settings proprogate and multiply to every child |
| 09:32.26 | Xinhuan | so if you have a parented to b parented to c, all 2 scales multiply to get the effectivescale at a |
| 09:32.32 | Xinhuan | 3* scales |
| 09:33.10 | todd | how does eepanels name the frames? |
| 09:33.18 | Ellipsis | eePanelX |
| 09:33.18 | Xinhuan | no clue |
| 09:33.22 | Ellipsis | where X is the panel number |
| 09:34.09 | todd | the effective scales are the same |
| 09:34.31 | Xinhuan | then there is no reason why the 2 panels will have a different height |
| 09:34.44 | Xinhuan | if their :GetHeight() and :GetEffectiveScale() are both identicale |
| 09:34.50 | Xinhuan | identical |
| 09:35.05 | Ellipsis | if it's off by a pixel it might just be rounding error |
| 09:35.13 | Ellipsis | depending where they're positioned |
| 09:35.31 | Nargiddley | if its a single pixel or so and you don't run a ui scale of 1, then yeah rounding error is likely |
| 09:35.31 | todd | yeah, it's 1 pixel, they're both at the same vertical position on the screen |
| 09:35.39 | todd | and my ui scale is 0.64 |
| 09:35.53 | Nargiddley | that'll be it |
| 09:35.57 | Ellipsis | yup |
| 09:36.27 | Nargiddley | its so fun trying to make things look right when that happens >< |
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| 09:36.35 | Nargiddley | especially |
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| 09:36.44 | Nargiddley | when the error stays with the frame as it moves |
| 09:36.53 | Nargiddley | so like waterfall, that recycles frame |
| 09:36.55 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 09:37.03 | Nargiddley | things change height as it refreshes |
| 09:37.11 | Nargiddley | flicking back and forwards >< |
| 09:43.25 | Xinhuan | hmm i keep confusing Nargiddley and nevcairiel |
| 09:43.28 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 09:43.29 | purl | :/ |
| 09:43.37 | nevcairiel | ~fail Xinhuan |
| 09:43.37 | purl | Xinhuan: Fail. |
| 09:46.32 | Xinhuan | someone needs to make a Babble-Talents |
| 09:47.07 | Ellipsis | doesn't spell have talents in it? |
| 09:48.21 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, question about postal, is it intended that the l1th and 12th icons are missing in mail crate tootlips? |
| 09:48.37 | Xinhuan | it is not intended, but it is a side-effect |
| 09:48.51 | Xinhuan | all gametooltip objects can only have a maximum of 10 icons embedded in it |
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| 09:48.58 | Gngsk | ahh, I see |
| 09:49.02 | sag_ich_nicht | god i hate DVB-T |
| 09:49.14 | Xinhuan | short of writing my own "tooltip" there isn't a way around it |
| 09:49.21 | Gngsk | maybe you could save icons by doing [icon] name x X or something |
| 09:49.22 | Xinhuan | and it would be a very complicated tooltip |
| 09:49.38 | Xinhuan | no its the fact that a tooltip inside has 10 texture objects embedded in it |
| 09:49.42 | Gngsk | oh yeah, that doesn't really make sense either |
| 09:49.47 | Gngsk | I see |
| 09:50.00 | Xinhuan | and the default <GameTooltip> objects has code to automatically indent text and auto unindent text as necessary |
| 09:50.22 | sag_ich_nicht | they changed the channel and my software doesn't have that channels frequency set, i don't know to which channel they switched so i can't look up the frequency for it so now i have to do a whole scan from 40000 kHz to 860000 kHz -.- |
| 09:50.25 | Xinhuan | if i were to write my own, it would be a <Frame> with a few 100 formatting codes |
| 09:50.34 | Xinhuan | and texture objects |
| 09:50.37 | Xinhuan | not pretty |
| 09:50.52 | Gngsk | couldn't you use one of those ckknight libs? |
| 09:51.09 | Xinhuan | no, they just use <GameTooltip> objects too |
| 09:51.15 | Xinhuan | wouldn't make a difference |
| 09:51.17 | exor674 | I *have* been working on a library that allows looking up talents by the english names, and I was gonna add looking up of passive modifiers, but I'm having trouble on how to do that |
| 09:51.33 | Gngsk | force slouken to increase the limit |
| 09:51.43 | Xinhuan | not gonna bother for now |
| 09:51.51 | Xinhuan | its an internal limit |
| 09:52.13 | Gngsk | k, well, thanks for the explanation |
| 09:53.26 | Xinhuan | i've tried manually defining my own textures for 11th and 12th, but the indentation is too difficult |
| 09:53.35 | nevcairiel | any experienced warriors here? |
| 09:53.41 | Xinhuan | if i added "spaces" it wouldn't work on different fonts |
| 09:53.50 | Xinhuan | if i used SetPoint, i couldn't reliably un-setpoint |
| 09:54.03 | Xinhuan | since each tooltip's line is based on the previous line's indentation |
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| 09:56.40 | cncfanatics | hello all ! |
| 09:56.46 | Zhinjio | howdy! |
| 09:58.29 | Xinhuan | hello |
| 10:08.06 | sag_ich_nicht | can we please just kill people like this? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3709655309&sid=1 |
| 10:08.53 | Ellipsis | no u |
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| 10:09.20 | Ellipsis | mmm moar |
| 10:09.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm busy scanning the 40 MHz to 860 MHz band |
| 10:10.01 | exor674 | for? |
| 10:10.10 | sag_ich_nicht | a signal, duh. |
| 10:10.11 | exor674 | monkies? |
| 10:10.18 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no |
| 10:11.02 | sag_ich_nicht | my DVB-T reciever software is just a dick and so is the local television station, giving me NO information about the frequency they send on at all |
| 10:11.11 | sag_ich_nicht | so now i have to scan the whole spectrum for the damn channel -.- |
| 10:11.35 | sag_ich_nicht | and the channel listing in the software is outdated, even AFTER a software update |
| 10:11.43 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking propritary bullshit software |
| 10:11.51 | Ellipsis | lolowned |
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| 10:13.28 | sag_ich_nicht | pretty much |
| 10:13.41 | sag_ich_nicht | 821 channels -.- takes forever to scan |
| 10:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | 351 scanned atm :/ |
| 10:14.00 | sag_ich_nicht | been scanning for 30 minutes or so |
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| 10:23.42 | Ozguli` | sag_ich_nicht my normal TV doesn't even have a way to set frequency |
| 10:24.08 | Ozguli` | and if the pricks decide to move something, I'll have to scan whole spectrum |
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| 10:24.31 | Zhinjio | Elkano! |
| 10:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Ozguli`: awesome. you running analog or digital? |
| 10:25.12 | Ozguli` | analog on my own |
| 10:25.16 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 10:25.23 | sag_ich_nicht | then it's not much of a problem |
| 10:25.26 | sag_ich_nicht | analog scan takes like |
| 10:25.29 | sag_ich_nicht | 5 minutes |
| 10:25.34 | Ozguli` | or more |
| 10:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | full spectrum digital scan=>1 hour |
| 10:25.51 | Ozguli` | ow. |
| 10:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 10:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmm 498 MHz SHOULD hit something |
| 10:27.58 | sag_ich_nicht | yargh, nothing |
| 10:27.59 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 10:28.00 | Ozguli` | write the first frequency on paper, if you could start the scan there the next time you need to? |
| 10:28.07 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 10:28.09 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 10:28.12 | sag_ich_nicht | but i found a table now |
| 10:28.15 | sag_ich_nicht | brb |
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| 10:32.15 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 10:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 10:34.12 | sag_ich_nicht | all the channels. |
| 10:35.15 | CIA-8 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r106 10/branches/PerfectTargets/ (12 files in 3 dirs): PerfectTargets: OK, finally fixed this sucker. This will be the last update for this project name -- PerfectTargets is to be renamed DRADIS. |
| 10:37.42 | Elkano | anyone of you able to generate a lot of website hits from different IP adresses? |
| 10:40.31 | thul | haha |
| 10:43.08 | CIA-8 | 03thrae * r57752 10PerfectTargets/ (12 files in 3 dirs): PerfectTargets: (Fixed) See http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/ |
| 10:43.22 | sag_ich_nicht | mms://stream4.orf.at/oe1-wort Vienna New Year's Concert |
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| 10:44.08 | Xinhuan | DRADIS? lol |
| 10:44.16 | KivinSan | lol |
| 10:44.40 | CIA-8 | 03thrae * r57753 10PerfectTargets/libs/ (7 files in 2 dirs): PerfectTargets: Whoops. Someone changed the directory structure. |
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| 10:45.35 | smoke_ | hey guys, is it possible to make parrot display a certain buff gain in the notifcation w/o enabling buff gains? cuz i just want to see my focus proc thats all |
| 10:45.52 | Thrae | Blame Tekkub for the name |
| 10:46.05 | SunTsu | smoke_: You can use a trigger for that |
| 10:46.09 | KivinSan | A battlestar fan? ;p |
| 10:46.18 | Thrae | I suppose he is ;) |
| 10:46.22 | SunTsu | smoke_: Just like Nightfall and such |
| 10:46.45 | smoke_ | SunTsu, how do i add a trigger or whatever? |
| 10:46.53 | smoke_ | nm |
| 10:46.54 | smoke_ | im bad |
| 10:46.55 | smoke_ | i see it |
| 10:46.59 | Zhinjio | Elkano, I can do at least 2? |
| 10:47.12 | Zhinjio | maybe more if I poke around |
| 10:47.15 | Zhinjio | make that 3 |
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| 10:48.11 | CIA-8 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r57754 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-Slider.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: Slider widget is controllable with the mousewheel |
| 10:50.45 | Elkano | Zhinjo: http://www.gate-nine.de/stuff/upotia/index.php?direct=1 |
| 10:50.54 | Elkano | and thanks :) |
| 10:51.09 | Zhinjio | getting someplace safe. one moment. |
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| 10:51.29 | Zhinjio | ok, here we go... |
| 10:52.03 | Elkano | it's kind of a war between two comunities and the one 'we' are figthing aginst is currently bombing us with tons of new ips via reconnects :/ |
| 10:52.21 | Zhinjio | thats two... |
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| 10:52.30 | Elkano | besides that they said that we are all cheating cs kiddies or at least ex-csler now playing wow... |
| 10:53.32 | sag_ich_nicht | so basicially you're acting like retarded 14 year olds trying to get the most hits on a website. |
| 10:54.02 | Elkano | (well, besides the cheating and the kiddies they are right for a lot of us ;) ) |
| 10:54.30 | sag_ich_nicht | go masturbate to some hentai while thinking of your mom instead of engaging in a pointless e-war. |
| 10:54.40 | KivinSan | rofl |
| 10:55.02 | Elkano | I could think of yours but my imagination isn't big enought ;) |
| 10:55.36 | Elkano | and pointless e-wars is the PvP of small men ;) |
| 10:55.56 | Zhinjio | ok, thats the 3 that are easy for me. |
| 10:56.23 | sag_ich_nicht | now go turn on PBS :P |
| 10:57.15 | Zhinjio | oh, Elkano, I continue to get that weird bar across the screen on EBB, except now it happens more often. I've seen it with 10 seconds left on a shammy weapon buff |
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| 11:03.19 | Elkano | hmmm... latest version? |
| 11:03.51 | Ellipsis | ugh |
| 11:03.59 | Ellipsis | stupid WoW crashing whenever I alt-tab during a gxrestart :( |
| 11:04.32 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 11:04.33 | Industrial | why do you alt tab during a gxrestart? it only takes a second.. |
| 11:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i blame your videocard, get a new one |
| 11:04.56 | Ellipsis | it's not my video card |
| 11:05.03 | Ellipsis | it's a new issue since 2.3 |
| 11:05.10 | Ellipsis | before that it never crashed when I did this |
| 11:05.14 | sdouble | It may not be, but that is where sag_ich_nicht has placed the blame. |
| 11:05.25 | sag_ich_nicht | sdouble get's the point! |
| 11:05.32 | KivinSan | We seem to be living in a big, friendly circle of blame this day |
| 11:05.39 | Ellipsis | Industrial: it takes *much* longer than a second for me |
| 11:05.51 | sdouble | KivinSan, yeah. =/ Blame Ellipsis's video card. |
| 11:06.03 | Ellipsis | my computer is quite slow, gxrestart is 30sec-1min and I'd rather be chatting than watching it restart :/ |
| 11:06.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: see? get a new videocard. |
| 11:06.57 | sag_ich_nicht | then the gxrestart will only take a few seconds |
| 11:07.02 | sag_ich_nicht | and you won't have to alt+tab! |
| 11:07.05 | KivinSan | touche |
| 11:07.42 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: the videocard is the fastest piece of hardware in my computer |
| 11:07.51 | sag_ich_nicht | then get a new computer all together |
| 11:07.59 | sag_ich_nicht | which reminds me |
| 11:08.00 | Ellipsis | the hard drive is the bottleneck, and the small amount of RAM |
| 11:08.02 | Ellipsis | yeah, I'm going to |
| 11:08.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm probably getting my missing 2GB of RAM back tomorrow :O |
| 11:08.23 | KivinSan | that's on my todo as well |
| 11:08.24 | sag_ich_nicht | and my videocard fixed :O |
| 11:08.35 | KivinSan | unfortuantely, my whole computer has to be replaced when i finally do, since it's ancient |
| 11:08.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm missing the 4GB so badly <3 |
| 11:08.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 761/2048MB (37.16%) RAM free. |
| 11:08.43 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, SB Live! 24-bit, and 550.89 GB of 1294.81 GB available on 2 drive(s). |
| 11:08.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 11:08.53 | Ellipsis | go die in a fire |
| 11:09.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i know, the soundcard sucks |
| 11:09.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and i need a new CPU |
| 11:09.20 | sag_ich_nicht | but the quadcore phenoms aren't out yet! |
| 11:09.23 | KivinSan | the soundcard is the finest peice of hardware in my entire computer |
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| 11:09.44 | KivinSan | an old relic from the DJ hardware I used to own |
| 11:09.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i intended to buy the quadcore with the money that's now going into the videocard replacement |
| 11:09.48 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 11:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | hi. |
| 11:10.47 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley, is there a way to disable mousewheels working on the ace3config? |
| 11:11.02 | Nargiddley | how so ? |
| 11:11.12 | Industrial | wait a min |
| 11:11.18 | Industrial | you are going to replace a 8800gtx? |
| 11:11.23 | Xinhuan | i can't remember how many times i "mousewheeled" to scroll the options on the right side |
| 11:11.28 | Industrial | my pc is getting old :( |
| 11:11.33 | Xinhuan | and because the scrolling lands on a slider |
| 11:11.35 | Industrial | er, 7900 |
| 11:11.38 | Xinhuan | or some scrollable setting |
| 11:11.42 | Xinhuan | it scrolls that setting instead |
| 11:11.49 | KivinSan | that irritates the hell out of me on rockconfig |
| 11:11.54 | Nargiddley | no way atm |
| 11:12.11 | Xinhuan | well that needs to go somehow |
| 11:12.30 | Ellipsis | I have a 6800...I feel so old |
| 11:12.45 | KivinSan | good ol radeon 1650x |
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| 11:13.12 | Xinhuan | when i scroll the config to see everything in it, i don't expect to change any options |
| 11:13.31 | Nargiddley | hmm, maybe disable the scrolling on controls for a second after scrolling the window |
| 11:13.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:11] <Industrial> you are going to replace a 8800gtx? |
| 11:13.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:11] <Xinhuan> i can't remember how many times i "mousewheeled" to scroll the options o |
| 11:13.53 | KivinSan | or disable it on the controls permanently? |
| 11:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | argh |
| 11:13.56 | sag_ich_nicht | bad copy paste |
| 11:14.06 | Nargiddley | it was requested for the controls >< |
| 11:14.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:11] <Industrial> you are going to replace a 8800gtx? <--yeah. with an 8800gtx. |
| 11:14.10 | Xinhuan | that wouldn't quite work Nargiddley, that's how rockconfig does it atm |
| 11:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | because this one is broken and not in warranty. |
| 11:14.30 | Industrial | ah ok |
| 11:14.32 | sag_ich_nicht | and this time, i'm putting a better cooler on it. |
| 11:14.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it'll probably be overkill, but wth |
| 11:15.05 | Xinhuan | sometimes people scroll the pane a bit, stop, look, scroll the pane again a bit, etc |
| 11:15.30 | Nargiddley | is there anything other than sliders that respond to mousewhel ? |
| 11:15.32 | Xinhuan | but didn't realize the mouse is over a config item |
| 11:15.42 | Industrial | sometimes people dont use it alltogether :D |
| 11:15.43 | Xinhuan | yes rockconfig's COLOR settings lolol |
| 11:15.46 | KivinSan | I do it almost every time I open rockConfig |
| 11:15.58 | Xinhuan | all their color widgets are scrollables |
| 11:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | gaaaaah i hate that so much |
| 11:16.04 | Nargiddley | well sliders responding to mousewheel was just added |
| 11:16.06 | Nargiddley | hmm |
| 11:16.06 | KivinSan | I really hate it when I do it to some setting that causes a great deal of cpu processing to change |
| 11:16.25 | Nargiddley | maybe that should have some other requirement other than hovering |
| 11:16.31 | Xinhuan | i honestly do not believe mosuescroll should be added to sliders |
| 11:16.41 | KivinSan | Seconded |
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| 11:17.53 | Xinhuan | or if you wish to add the mousewheel, there should be a checkbox at the end of the slider, that when ticked, enables mousewheel for that slider |
| 11:18.06 | Fisker- | I > U |
| 11:18.08 | Nargiddley | I dont want to add clutter like that |
| 11:18.30 | Xinhuan | but i definitely do not want to scroll thru options and accidentally "scroll" sliders |
| 11:18.37 | Xinhuan | it happens a lot |
| 11:18.40 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 11:18.54 | Ellipsis | that could be fixed with a delay or something |
| 11:19.02 | Ellipsis | I happen to like being able to set slider values precisely with the mousewheel |
| 11:19.09 | Ellipsis | since dragging is clumsy |
| 11:19.14 | Xinhuan | the delay doesn't really help because a user does not necesarily notice his mouse is on a slider |
| 11:19.32 | Xinhuan | rockconfig uses the delay method and i still accidentally scroll stuff once in a while |
| 11:19.38 | Xinhuan | and i go "what number was the previous setting" |
| 11:19.43 | Ellipsis | by delay I mean if they scrolled the page in the last 1sec, then sliders ignore mousewheel |
| 11:19.45 | KivinSan | I accidently scroll more than once in a while |
| 11:19.47 | Nargiddley | and any way to activate the mousewheel won't be intuitive |
| 11:19.48 | Ellipsis | or whatever |
| 11:19.56 | Xinhuan | yes Ellipsis, rockconfig uses 1sec atm |
| 11:19.58 | Xinhuan | as that setting |
| 11:19.59 | Ellipsis | I don't have problems with it in rockconfig |
| 11:20.20 | Xinhuan | its not good enough |
| 11:20.25 | Xinhuan | sometimes people scroll the pane a bit, stop, look, scroll the pane again a bit, etc |
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| 11:20.39 | Ellipsis | IMO a "default" button for each setting would solve your issue |
| 11:21.07 | Nargiddley | well, default isn't always the same as what it was before it gets changed unintentionally |
| 11:21.11 | Ellipsis | what about if the scroll wheel continues to scroll the page until the user stops for at least 1sec *and* moves the cursor? |
| 11:21.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i have god damn fucking FOUR map addons. |
| 11:21.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and i need them all |
| 11:21.28 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 11:21.34 | KivinSan | A default wouldn't do it for me |
| 11:21.40 | Xinhuan | then maybe it'll work |
| 11:21.47 | KivinSan | Accidently changing a colour in Pitbull usually involves me going to another frame and looking up the colour |
| 11:22.00 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: what about a "cancel" button that reverts changes made during that session? |
| 11:22.17 | nevcairiel | thats not really solving the problem |
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| 11:22.21 | Xinhuan | wouldn't work since changes are applied by the set= function |
| 11:22.25 | nevcairiel | and would add alot of bloat to store the previous values |
| 11:22.27 | Xinhuan | immediately on change |
| 11:22.29 | Nargiddley | there is no real concept of 'session' tho |
| 11:22.31 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, hence I said revert rather than not apply |
| 11:22.45 | Nargiddley | set is called as the slider changes |
| 11:22.45 | KivinSan | That's add a lot of moving parts to the config |
| 11:22.46 | Xinhuan | well the set function runs immediately |
| 11:22.53 | Xinhuan | you can't "not apply" it |
| 11:22.54 | Ellipsis | right, so you save the old value and reapply it |
| 11:23.00 | nevcairiel | bloat |
| 11:23.02 | nevcairiel | no way :P |
| 11:23.10 | Xinhuan | reapplying an old value may not necessarily revert settings correctly |
| 11:23.14 | Ellipsis | it's only bloat if you keep the dialog open all the time... |
| 11:23.16 | Nargiddley | the window is recreated after a set |
| 11:23.36 | Nargiddley | a set could theoretically cause the option to not exist anymore, not going to happen |
| 11:24.14 | Xinhuan | that is correct Nargiddley, in _Routes, the add route and delete route dynamically from the aceopt table |
| 11:24.23 | Xinhuan | dynamically updates* |
| 11:24.57 | Ellipsis | meh, maybe I'm just too used to normal software where changes aren't applied until you apply them |
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| 11:27.10 | Xinhuan | you should read the default UI code ellipsis, on how the default UI "saves" settings so that it can "revert" if the user clicks "cancel" in its dialogs hehe |
| 11:27.23 | Ellipsis | I'd rather stab my eyes out with a spork |
| 11:27.41 | Xinhuan | especially the key bindings one |
| 11:27.55 | Ellipsis | just because Blizz does it badly doesn't mean everyone has to |
| 11:28.07 | KivinSan | Even if it were elegant to do, it'd require a massive change to the config model for a relatively minor ui change |
| 11:28.35 | Xinhuan | ya, its just not feasible |
| 11:28.49 | Ellipsis | what better time to make a "massive change" than a new major version of the framework? |
| 11:28.52 | Xinhuan | for example, turning on an option (checkbox) may cause 20 other options in the same dialog to appear/disappear |
| 11:29.05 | Ellipsis | (note, I don't ever expect it to happen, I'm just saying) |
| 11:29.09 | Xinhuan | this would usually be done by either using the hidden= field |
| 11:29.16 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, the time for massive changes was a couple months ago when we were redoing the spec :P |
| 11:29.16 | Xinhuan | or by changing the aceopt {} directly |
| 11:29.25 | Nargiddley | its a couple minor issues away from beta |
| 11:29.35 | Zhinjio | so this whole discussion is because someone wants to use mousewheel on a slider? |
| 11:29.52 | Xinhuan | my suggestion is to add that small checkbox to turn on mousewheel for that slider |
| 11:30.00 | Xinhuan | kind of like the "Confirm?" checkbox in rock config |
| 11:30.16 | Xinhuan | so that certain settings doesn't require a staticpopup like "Are you sure you want to...?" |
| 11:30.23 | Zhinjio | if you have a checkbox, you might as well just leave the default method f requiring a mouseclick held down to move it. |
| 11:30.27 | Nargiddley | better to just turn it off |
| 11:30.32 | Nargiddley | beaten >< |
| 11:30.39 | Thrae | Can a non-Secure Frame have a Secure child frame? |
| 11:30.43 | Xinhuan | yes thrae |
| 11:30.54 | [Ammo] | Thrae: yes, ofcourse the parent will get protected then as well |
| 11:30.57 | Xinhuan | a secure frame causes all its parents to be protected |
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| 11:31.05 | Thrae | Ah. |
| 11:31.12 | nevcairiel | secure frames are only a set of templates with secured code that do stuff |
| 11:31.15 | nevcairiel | its nothing special |
| 11:31.59 | nevcairiel | its more the kind of frames that are protected, which are buttons and checkbuttons |
| 11:32.00 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 11:32.06 | nevcairiel | aka all frames that can be EnableMouse() |
| 11:32.07 | Funkeh` | escape from orgimar 31 december |
| 11:32.12 | Funkeh` | anyone take that seriously? |
| 11:32.46 | nevcairiel | well their website is absolutely down for the last day |
| 11:32.48 | nevcairiel | so i guess :P |
| 11:33.20 | Funkeh` | its not on WCM |
| 11:34.20 | nevcairiel | its not like 31 dec is a date where you usually trick people, so why should they? |
| 11:35.17 | Funkeh` | usually tric people? |
| 11:35.32 | Funkeh` | um, they've already made several release dates and failed |
| 11:36.16 | Xinhuan | did you mean that video |
| 11:36.17 | Xinhuan | Funkeh` |
| 11:36.42 | Funkeh` | yus |
| 11:37.38 | sag_ich_nicht | there that should cut down login time |
| 11:39.33 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 11:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | still taking forever, but faster. |
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| 11:42.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae optionhouse for perfectraid please? :( |
| 11:42.38 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 11:42.42 | sag_ich_nicht | *perfecttargets |
| 11:42.48 | sag_ich_nicht | damn that was one hell of a brain typo |
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| 11:47.23 | Fisker- | i'm gonna heil your hitler sag_ich_nicht |
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| 11:54.20 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r750 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Importing MailEnhancement - MailFu icon for the default minimap mail herpetic blister |
| 11:55.00 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 11:56.20 | Fisker- | O_o Tekkub |
| 11:56.34 | Tekkub | what? |
| 11:56.34 | Zicon | tekkub <3 |
| 11:56.55 | Xinhuan | what the heck |
| 11:57.17 | Tekkub | minimap herpes... |
| 11:57.23 | Tekkub | it's a common thing |
| 11:57.41 | Kemayo | At least 85% of users are thought to have contracted it. |
| 11:58.20 | thul | herpes? :-P |
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| 12:01.44 | Wogroipl | Is files.wowace.com down? |
| 12:01.54 | Tekkub | yes |
| 12:02.33 | Wogroipl | hmmm some addons got updated anyway :D |
| 12:02.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:01] <Wogroipl> Is files.wowace.com down? <--no |
| 12:02.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:01] <+Tekkub> yes <--no |
| 12:03.06 | sag_ich_nicht | the cronjob is just running at 00 thus the site slows down to a crawl temporarily. |
| 12:03.18 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 12:03.19 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 12:03.26 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme rewrite that sentence so it makes sense. |
| 12:03.32 | many | yes<-no<-yes<-no<-yes<-no<-yes |
| 12:03.38 | sag_ich_nicht | the cronjob is just running at 00 thus the site slows down to a halt temporarily. |
| 12:03.40 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 12:04.02 | Fisker- | so Tekkub you continuing some mailfu clone somewhere else then? |
| 12:06.42 | Xinhuan | i thought all that addon does is replace the default UI's "you have mail" icon with mailfu's icon |
| 12:06.50 | Xinhuan | and nothing to actually do with mailFu |
| 12:08.15 | dabujo | MiniMapMailIcon:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\MailEnhancement\\newmail.tga") |
| 12:08.21 | dabujo | thats everything it does |
| 12:08.27 | Xinhuan | thought so! |
| 12:18.38 | nevcairiel | what was the website that lists all tier-specific loot for a certain class? or even better, a site that lists best pre-raid warrior tanking gear? |
| 12:19.07 | ramoz | wtb |
| 12:19.13 | ramoz | good inspect addon |
| 12:19.47 | Elkano | nevcairiel: http://wow-loot.com/ ? |
| 12:19.59 | nevcairiel | i tried that, pretty sucky page :P |
| 12:20.42 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tier_4 |
| 12:20.43 | sag_ich_nicht | duh! |
| 12:21.03 | nevcairiel | how is that useful now? |
| 12:21.20 | sag_ich_nicht | okay okay wait |
| 12:21.22 | thul | wow-loot rocks :-P |
| 12:21.23 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dungeon_Set_3 |
| 12:21.30 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bold_Armor ! |
| 12:21.32 | nevcairiel | i know the set |
| 12:21.42 | nevcairiel | but i want a list of full pre-raid tanking gear .P |
| 12:22.29 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.tankspot.com/forums/gear-lists-rankings/32083-berg-s-tank-gear-rankings-11-16-2007-wow-2-3-a.html |
| 12:22.34 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102911490&postId=1026724819&sid=1#0 |
| 12:22.36 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.tankspot.com/forums/gear-lists-rankings/31940-polar-s-easy-pre-karazhan-tank-gear-list.html |
| 12:22.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=387998850&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 12:22.40 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 12:22.44 | sag_ich_nicht | you could read the warrior forum. |
| 12:22.52 | sag_ich_nicht | especially the stickies. |
| 12:23.00 | nevcairiel | i tried, i hate the official forums |
| 12:23.06 | nevcairiel | and you know, why read when i can ask ? :) |
| 12:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: try the eu forums for reading then :P |
| 12:23.20 | sag_ich_nicht | they are generally more useful :P |
| 12:23.35 | sag_ich_nicht | (but have less GOD DAMN FUCKING SLOUKEN NOW GIMME SOMEONE LIKE HIM GRRRRR) |
| 12:23.45 | sag_ich_nicht | also Hortus |
| 12:23.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 12:23.54 | thul | slouken? :-P |
| 12:24.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ...kill yourself. |
| 12:24.06 | sag_ich_nicht | right now. |
| 12:24.15 | [Ammo] | yay |
| 12:24.17 | [Ammo] | it works :) |
| 12:24.19 | [Ammo] | http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/clock.jpg |
| 12:24.33 | sag_ich_nicht | oO |
| 12:25.00 | sag_ich_nicht | is that rendered/drawn ingame or just a changing image? |
| 12:25.07 | [Ammo] | in game |
| 12:25.09 | [Ammo] | fully working |
| 12:25.20 | sag_ich_nicht | waste of resources |
| 12:25.53 | sag_ich_nicht | (but nice work :P) |
| 12:26.26 | [Ammo] | took me some digging in my ole brain for the math to make circles :) |
| 12:27.55 | Kemayo | Remember, we get into programming to *avoid* math. |
| 12:28.02 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 12:28.14 | Ellipsis | +1 Kemayo |
| 12:28.21 | [Ammo] | ~seen cyect |
| 12:28.23 | purl | [Ammo]: i haven't seen 'cyect' |
| 12:28.24 | [Ammo] | ~seen cryect |
| 12:28.25 | purl | cryect is currently on #wowace (13h 11m 50s), last said: 'Just remove warriors easier'. |
| 12:28.31 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: care to link the macro and the addon required for it again? :-P |
| 12:28.42 | sag_ich_nicht | thul: for what? |
| 12:29.15 | Ellipsis | the pally one? |
| 12:29.24 | thul | yeah |
| 12:29.26 | sag_ich_nicht | huh? |
| 12:29.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ?_? |
| 12:29.31 | thul | pallydan |
| 12:29.40 | sag_ich_nicht | oh you mean the damage macro? |
| 12:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah hold |
| 12:29.47 | thul | http://pastey.net/79846-3iss |
| 12:29.52 | thul | found the macro in my history |
| 12:29.54 | sag_ich_nicht | no that is outdated, wait |
| 12:29.54 | thul | but not the addon :/ |
| 12:29.59 | thul | oh, ok |
| 12:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/79867 |
| 12:32.31 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html |
| 12:32.35 | sag_ich_nicht | just don't spam it. |
| 12:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | because then it will not work. |
| 12:33.50 | thul | gk |
| 12:33.54 | thul | thanks:) |
| 12:34.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- i reduced retribution paladins to 1 button :( |
| 12:34.31 | sag_ich_nicht | (well actually 2, but still!) |
| 12:34.53 | thul | ah, so I just put it in sequences.lua and gg? |
| 12:36.25 | sag_ich_nicht | more or less, just put it in the right place in sequences.lua. |
| 12:37.13 | thul | hehe, ok:P |
| 12:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | then /click JudgementDay using an ingame macro |
| 12:38.24 | thul | k |
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| 12:45.46 | nevcairiel | and only click when you're not on GCD, or it'll skip one |
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| 12:46.46 | Fisker- | hai sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:46.49 | Fisker- | !care(); :( |
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| 12:52.51 | thul | hmm |
| 12:53.04 | thul | even with leveling guides, I get tired of leveling :-P |
| 12:53.29 | Codayus | The joy of being a guld leader: "How was your new years?" "wsas ok ,i dumped [his gf, who is also a raider] :( ,but im better off without" |
| 12:53.41 | mort | get a friend, level together, much more fu |
| 12:53.42 | mort | n |
| 12:53.57 | thul | well, problem then is being online at the same time etc |
| 12:54.39 | Codayus | What makes "guild leader" = "love life counselor"? >< |
| 12:56.12 | SunTsu | Codayus: Well, you made the mistake to ask ;) |
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| 12:56.37 | Codayus | I didn't mean it! :-( |
| 12:57.04 | CIA-8 | 03dotted * r57755 10Recap/ (20 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 12:57.04 | CIA-8 | Recap: |
| 12:57.04 | CIA-8 | - Added a setting to change the scale of Recap (suggested by Razumikhin and rugger). |
| 12:57.04 | CIA-8 | - Added code to sort combatants by class in the fight panels. |
| 12:57.04 | CIA-8 | - Added colour to the new recent events panel, and to posting of recent events to the console (but not to chat channels, which disconnects you if you try). |
| 12:57.08 | CIA-8 | - Added Matrix data mode, showing Target of Outgoing and Source of Incoming Details of who damaged or healed whom (requested by Maischter). |
| 12:57.09 | SunTsu | Codayus: Looks like the effect of "Wrong time, wrong question" ;) |
| 12:57.11 | CIA-8 | - Changed date string for new Data Sets so that they will sort in date order as originally intended. |
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| 12:57.33 | CIA-8 | ow |
| 12:57.59 | Fisker- | ewww recap |
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| 12:59.08 | thul | *dance |
| 12:59.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i really really REALLY hope 2.3.2 hits next week |
| 13:01.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:54] <Codayus> What makes "guild leader" = "love life counselor"? >< <--you asked him how his new years was. your own fault. stfu and deal with the answers get to the questions you ask. |
| 13:01.30 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with "pretty good" like most people say? sheesh |
| 13:01.42 | sag_ich_nicht | my new years war boring. |
| 13:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | uneventful. |
| 13:01.48 | sag_ich_nicht | like every day. |
| 13:01.50 | Ellipsis | well that works too |
| 13:02.00 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, but, srsly, you aren't supposed to respond HONESTLY to small talk. |
| 13:02.05 | Ellipsis | come up with a concise description of your new years experience and use it when people ask |
| 13:02.16 | Ellipsis | it's not that difficult, people |
| 13:02.20 | Codayus | I mean wtf, western civ is built on the idea that you just lie to them if they ask how you're doing. |
| 13:02.36 | Codayus | ...well, I may exagerate for effect slightly. |
| 13:02.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:02] <Codayus> sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, but, srsly, you aren't supposed to respond HONESTLY to small talk. <--i always do. |
| 13:03.03 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate small talk. |
| 13:03.12 | Codayus | I bet you don't get much small talk. |
| 13:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | true, so? |
| 13:03.41 | Speeddymon | I'm quitting the game. My wife left me. |
| 13:03.52 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 13:04.04 | Speeddymon | My wife left me, so I am quitting the game. |
| 13:04.13 | sag_ich_nicht | wait. |
| 13:04.18 | Speeddymon | ? |
| 13:04.22 | sag_ich_nicht | why did you wife leave you, and how is that related to WoW. |
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| 13:04.43 | sag_ich_nicht | s/you/your/ |
| 13:04.54 | Speeddymon | because I have spent all my time playing the game and making addons for the game instead of paying attention to her and our son... |
| 13:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | you better win her back, idiot. |
| 13:05.17 | Speeddymon | so she took him and stayed at her new bf's.. its too late |
| 13:05.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 13:05.26 | Speeddymon | yea i know |
| 13:05.33 | Speeddymon | i know |
| 13:05.36 | Speeddymon | i gotta go |
| 13:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 13:06.15 | sag_ich_nicht | what an idiot |
| 13:06.33 | thul | ... |
| 13:06.33 | sag_ich_nicht | and what an asshole, i wanted to tell him to leave now and never return, but he /quit before i could tell him |
| 13:06.49 | thul | I say: LIGHT THE PYRE! |
| 13:06.51 | thul | now, go on with your lifes |
| 13:06.52 | thul | :-D |
| 13:07.47 | Chompers | owned |
| 13:07.55 | Chompers | or best troll EVAR |
| 13:08.07 | sb | meh, some voice keeps telling me that i need an iphone :/ |
| 13:08.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ooooooooh actual coding error error from WoW! |
| 13:08.33 | sag_ich_nicht | This application has encountered a critical error: |
| 13:08.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ERROR #124 (0x8510007c) Memory Invalid Block |
| 13:08.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Program:C:\Programme\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 13:08.33 | sag_ich_nicht | File:.\GossipInfo.cpp |
| 13:08.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Line:340 |
| 13:08.33 | sag_ich_nicht | SMem3: Pointer does not refer to a valid allocated block of memory |
| 13:08.35 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 13:08.45 | sag_ich_nicht | on Alt+F4 |
| 13:08.46 | sag_ich_nicht | bad WoW! |
| 13:09.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Responsible Coder |
| 13:09.11 | purl | follow's Responsible Coder with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 13:10.02 | thul | ~lart Ballmer |
| 13:10.02 | purl | turns Ballmer into a lifesized tux doll |
| 13:10.31 | thul | mohaahhahahaha |
| 13:10.50 | thul | I'm an evil genius |
| 13:10.55 | thul | ~lart Darth Vader |
| 13:10.55 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Darth Vader |
| 13:10.59 | thul | :/ |
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| 13:15.38 | chexsum | i lost the ability to be vertical last night |
| 13:18.43 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 13:23.22 | Lukian | arg, tab failure :D |
| 13:23.28 | Lukian | oh well *makes the most of it* :p |
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| 13:32.22 | Ellipsis | so that's kinda hot |
| 13:36.40 | thul | hmmm |
| 13:36.42 | thul | I think I have to hurl |
| 13:36.43 | thul | :-P |
| 13:36.49 | thul | i want a battery grip :-( |
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| 13:40.43 | thul | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs23/i/2008/001/9/c/Behind_the_wheel_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- today's art. |
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| 13:45.03 | Spinnsout | any one here that may be able to answet a question for m |
| 13:45.49 | thul | should you get a divorce? yes |
| 13:46.18 | Xinhuan | yes (there, your question about whether you may ask a question is answered!) |
| 13:46.41 | Spinnsout | lol |
| 13:47.00 | Spinnsout | well its about wow ave updater |
| 13:47.03 | Spinnsout | ace |
| 13:47.14 | Ripdog | THE MAC ONES BETTER |
| 13:47.19 | Ripdog | continue. |
| 13:47.19 | Spinnsout | haha |
| 13:47.28 | Spinnsout | ok i have two pcs |
| 13:47.36 | Spinnsout | one i have the updater working fine |
| 13:47.54 | Spinnsout | both my operating systems are other that legit |
| 13:48.07 | Ripdog | that shouldnt make a difference |
| 13:48.09 | Xinhuan | get to the point |
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| 13:48.11 | Spinnsout | there was link to dot net |
| 13:48.30 | Spinnsout | i have in use on my my main machine but cnat find it for my other |
| 13:48.41 | Xinhuan | so install it :) |
| 13:48.42 | Ripdog | you need the .net framework? |
| 13:48.46 | Spinnsout | right |
| 13:49.13 | mort | and it only took you nearly an hour to explain that |
| 13:49.21 | Spinnsout | of i belivce wow ace forums there was link to a by pass for the microsoft down load of dot net |
| 13:49.24 | Ripdog | jeez guys, arent you nice =\ |
| 13:49.30 | Spinnsout | sry man my typeing skils blow |
| 13:50.04 | Ripdog | if you get it from anywhere but Microsoft's official site, you wont need to validate |
| 13:50.11 | Ripdog | i think |
| 13:50.29 | Spinnsout | hum let me search again |
| 13:50.41 | Ripdog | just google .net framework <version you need> |
| 13:51.15 | Xinhuan | <inserts standard warning about trojans and keyloggers> |
| 13:51.55 | Ripdog | pfft |
| 13:52.10 | Ripdog | honestly, the wow community is insane about keyloggers |
| 13:52.17 | Ripdog | wtf is the chance |
| 13:52.34 | Lukian | 100% from dodgy forum links |
| 13:53.09 | Ripdog | yeah, well you still have to actually install them, unless you use IE or something =\ |
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| 13:55.23 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57756 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix possible nil error on line 2020. |
| 13:55.58 | Ripdog | giggity giggity, nvidia fucked my last windows install |
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| 14:03.17 | xyu | i remember when there was a line of text you could type in IRC that'd disconnect a ton of people with norton installed lol |
| 14:03.19 | xyu | fun times. |
| 14:03.38 | Ripdog | and then you giggle at the poor foolls? mmm... |
| 14:03.39 | xyu | something to do w/ keylogger |
| 14:03.43 | Ellipsis | heh, it still works on networks without filtering of it |
| 14:03.49 | xyu | yeah, and then i'd kill a cat |
| 14:04.03 | Ellipsis | you catch a few people with old routers that never upgraded the firmware |
| 14:04.35 | xyu | it's really fun to do it in those anime channels with 3000+ people |
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| 14:06.03 | xyu | i can't remember the last time i've had antivirus software actually installed on my PC |
| 14:07.47 | thul | i have a mac |
| 14:08.18 | xyu | macs are safe, because no one cares about macs |
| 14:08.31 | Ripdog | plus they have a real permissions model |
| 14:08.38 | thul | yup. |
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| 14:09.17 | Ripdog | and no activex |
| 14:09.25 | xyu | and drag and drop |
| 14:09.36 | thul | i got drag'n drop:P |
| 14:09.38 | Ripdog | um.. that too |
| 14:09.58 | Xinhuan | heh, my server's IRC channel just turned into a huge discussion about guitar hero ~_~ |
| 14:09.59 | Ripdog | drag and drop is like half as good on windows |
| 14:10.02 | xyu | i wouldn't mind a mac notebook at all, not one bit. |
| 14:10.28 | xyu | they all eventually do Xinhuan |
| 14:10.33 | xyu | that or cars |
| 14:10.44 | Ripdog | ugh, please god no |
| 14:10.52 | Xinhuan | haven't seen discussions about cars for 2 years |
| 14:10.55 | thul | :-( |
| 14:14.03 | thul | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14381600&sid=1 <- the nerdyness is killing me |
| 14:15.03 | thul | http://amp-develop.dk/wow/deepthoughts.jpg <- even naming a picture "deepthoughts" |
| 14:15.06 | thul | wtf |
| 14:15.21 | Ripdog | i propose a new rule no.1 of the interwebs |
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| 14:15.46 | Ripdog | "Absolutely NO threads asking for RL pictures" |
| 14:16.06 | thul | yeah |
| 14:16.09 | thul | I'm so in on that |
| 14:16.39 | Ripdog | mind you, im even more worried about you, clicking on those links |
| 14:17.02 | thul | http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3083/picture0283vm.jpg <- omg |
| 14:17.10 | thul | this is entertainment :-D |
| 14:17.14 | Ripdog | o.O |
| 14:17.31 | thul | rhttp://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/doppelgaenger/DSC00711.jpg <- hahahahahahahahahah |
| 14:17.32 | Ripdog | serial-axe-murderer-emo-wow player hybrid? |
| 14:17.34 | thul | omgwtfbbq |
| 14:17.35 | thul | yeah :-D |
| 14:17.38 | thul | i have to stop now |
| 14:18.05 | Ellipsis | ahhh scary |
| 14:18.08 | Ripdog | try removing the r from rhttp |
| 14:19.06 | thul | :/ |
| 14:20.36 | thul | http://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/favourites/ <- I have to clean up my favourites, in case my mum watches :-P |
| 14:20.41 | Ellipsis | oh, hey, happy consortium gem day everyone |
| 14:20.50 | mdj | Man Cart. Data is such a blessing |
| 14:21.39 | Ripdog | why would you fav pictures of chicks in bikinis when theres nudes? =\ |
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| 14:24.33 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r57757 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 14:24.33 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:24.33 | CIA-8 | -update zhCN local |
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| 14:24.54 | Ripdog | oh yeah, babble is broked for me :( |
| 14:25.04 | Ripdog | gives me dozens of errors |
| 14:27.19 | thul | Ripdog: beacause they are nice pictures :-D |
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| 14:27.29 | Ripdog | o.O |
| 14:27.49 | Ripdog | better then nudes? is there a male there? |
| 14:28.51 | nevcairiel | some bikini/underwear pics look better then straight nudes tbh |
| 14:30.15 | Ripdog | buh, w/e, i cant respond to that -.- |
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| 14:31.13 | thul | http://borissov.deviantart.com/art/Deya-Vbw-61077048 <- beautifull |
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| 14:36.42 | Ripdog | hey ckknight, can you help with a bunch of carto errors im getting? |
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| 14:38.27 | Ripdog | or anyone... lolz |
| 14:38.58 | Ripdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.58 | Ripdog | LibRockLocale-1.0-50605 (LibRockLocale-1.0):238: in function `AddTranslations' |
| 14:38.58 | Ripdog | Cartographer_Notes-2.0\Notes.lua:11: in main chunk |
| 14:38.59 | Ripdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.23 | Ripdog | is repeated for pretty much all of my carto modules |
| 14:40.35 | themaj | I had that before Rip |
| 14:41.00 | Ripdog | fixed it? |
| 14:41.02 | themaj | I deleted all the WTF pieces of Cartographer and all the cartographer (I was upgrading anyway so I did them all) and it was fixed in the new release |
| 14:41.18 | Ripdog | hmm, thanks |
| 14:41.28 | themaj | don't know if it'll work for you, but it did for me |
| 14:41.45 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r57758 10CooldownTimers2/Locale/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 14:41.45 | CIA-8 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 14:41.45 | CIA-8 | -zhCN/zhTW clean. |
| 14:41.46 | Ripdog | its worth a shot, thanks :) |
| 14:42.45 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r57759 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: |
| 14:42.45 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: |
| 14:42.46 | CIA-8 | translate missed zhCN (by Wolftankk) |
| 14:43.07 | Cryect | new years war? |
| 14:43.18 | Cryect | damn being scrolled up |
| 14:43.28 | Xinhuan | Ripdog, it means you installed Cartographer_Notes twice |
| 14:43.38 | Ripdog | o.O really? |
| 14:43.45 | Xinhuan | once inside a subfolder of Cartographer |
| 14:43.54 | Xinhuan | and once as a standalone addon in the main addons folder |
| 14:44.02 | Ripdog | oh, thanks! |
| 14:44.06 | Xinhuan | it should only exist in one of these 2 locations, not both |
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| 14:44.22 | Ripdog | thats what comes from installing a bunch of addons over top of a compliation >< |
| 14:44.23 | themaj | Cyrez, new years war? |
| 14:44.38 | Xinhuan | the zip file for cartographer comes with some submodules, these will work inside as subfolders |
| 14:44.44 | Xinhuan | or outside as individual addons |
| 14:44.52 | Xinhuan | everything else must be installed as individual addons |
| 14:44.54 | Ripdog | any recommended way? |
| 14:45.18 | Xinhuan | installing as individual addons allows to turn on/off each module individually |
| 14:45.28 | Xinhuan | at the login screen |
| 14:45.31 | Ripdog | ok, thanks :) |
| 14:45.31 | Xinhuan | so they don't get loaded |
| 14:45.46 | Xinhuan | otherwise as submodules in a subfolder, they ALL get loaded whether you want them or not |
| 14:45.58 | Xinhuan | so even if you "disable" it, its still loaded |
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| 14:49.09 | themaj | I wish bartender let you bind on the fly like bongos |
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| 14:50.32 | Ripdog | i cant even bind half my buttons at all with bartender =\ |
| 14:50.55 | Ripdog | omg yay |
| 14:50.58 | Ripdog | i cant log in |
| 14:51.20 | themaj | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.37 | Ripdog | im stuck on the EOTS loading screen >< |
| 14:51.47 | themaj | BGs have been down all morning |
| 14:52.34 | Ripdog | cant it at least kick me out? |
| 14:52.57 | themaj | it will |
| 14:53.30 | thul | I would love bongos-bingings with bartender |
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| 14:54.10 | themaj | even better, make the bartenderfu have a shortcut click/key that enables binding...would be so sweet. |
| 14:54.22 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57760 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: typo fix |
| 14:55.28 | CIA-8 | 03ammo * r57761 10/branches/AnalogClock/: Created folder remotely |
| 14:55.35 | MoonWolf | ~monday |
| 14:55.36 | purl | [monday] when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
| 14:55.43 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57762 10AnalogClock/: Created folder remotely |
| 14:56.02 | Ripdog|Sleep | sounds like linux o.O |
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| 15:02.42 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57763 10AnalogClock/ (AnalogClock.lua AnalogClock.toc line.tga): |
| 15:02.42 | CIA-8 | AnalogClock: |
| 15:02.42 | CIA-8 | - Optionless, pretty big analog clock dead center on your screen. |
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| 15:05.56 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 15:06.33 | Xinhuan | i don't think you need that line.tga if you used the blizzard taxi line code |
| 15:06.38 | [Ammo] | I do |
| 15:06.41 | [Ammo] | blizzard taxi line sucks |
| 15:06.42 | Xinhuan | you do? |
| 15:06.45 | Xinhuan | i suppose |
| 15:07.36 | Xinhuan | is this another "showcase ace3" mod for future developers to reference? :) |
| 15:07.50 | [Ammo] | no |
| 15:08.09 | [Ammo] | it is an excersise in futility :p |
| 15:08.27 | Xinhuan | i imagine you are running out of things to do |
| 15:08.31 | Xinhuan | (not) |
| 15:08.54 | [Ammo] | well I couldn't find an analog clock addon |
| 15:08.56 | Xinhuan | btw, what class do you raid as? |
| 15:08.58 | [Ammo] | so I wrote one :) |
| 15:09.00 | [Ammo] | warlock |
| 15:09.08 | Xinhuan | woo locks |
| 15:09.14 | MoonWolf | one minor quesiton |
| 15:09.17 | Xinhuan | as what spec? |
| 15:09.25 | MoonWolf | besides telling time, what do you want the clock FOR ? |
| 15:09.26 | [Ammo] | afffliction |
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| 15:09.31 | [Ammo] | TIME |
| 15:09.34 | [Ammo] | ofcourse |
| 15:09.37 | MoonWolf | but, timefu ? |
| 15:09.41 | [Ammo] | no |
| 15:09.46 | [Ammo] | I want to get rid of all my fu stuff |
| 15:09.50 | [Ammo] | and this is a pretty analog clock :) |
| 15:10.02 | Ellipsis | but it's...analog |
| 15:10.04 | Xinhuan | analog clocks take up so much space compared to a "digital" one |
| 15:10.06 | MoonWolf | it takes more space then a digital clock |
| 15:10.25 | Xinhuan | unless you do sneaky things like overlay it on top of your round minimap |
| 15:10.26 | [Ammo] | wshrug |
| 15:10.28 | Xinhuan | AHA idea! |
| 15:10.37 | [Ammo] | I want pretty stuff |
| 15:10.45 | Ellipsis | analog clocks aren't pretty, they're annoying |
| 15:10.49 | Xinhuan | why do you want to get rid of Fu stuff btw |
| 15:10.51 | Ellipsis | takes so much longer to read >_> |
| 15:11.15 | themaj | prot warriors are so screwed on PVP servers :P |
| 15:11.26 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: because he knows there won't be a ace3 version of fubar anytime soon :) |
| 15:11.39 | Xinhuan | not if he writes one |
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| 15:12.12 | Stanzilla | he won't ^^ |
| 15:12.14 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | Work is the curse of the Drinking Class ~ Oscar Wilde |
| 15:12.41 | Kaelten | hows it going uys? |
| 15:13.04 | Stanzilla | hi Kaelten, happy 2k8 |
| 15:13.14 | Xinhuan | whats the next status of ace3, gamma soon? or what? |
| 15:13.23 | Stanzilla | rc1 |
| 15:13.30 | Kaelten | we're two tickets away from a real beta release |
| 15:13.51 | Fisker- | I GOT A GOLDEN TICKET |
| 15:13.54 | thul | what are the main improvements? |
| 15:14.06 | Fisker- | golden tickets count as 2 tickets! |
| 15:14.14 | KivinSan | Would it be outlandish at this point to ask approx. when it is expected to be release-quality? |
| 15:14.44 | Xinhuan | how long would RC1 take to go RC2 or release? |
| 15:14.50 | Xinhuan | i suppose that is pending any major bugs found? |
| 15:15.08 | Kaelten | KivinSan: release will be no known bugs, a frozen api (backward compatibility guaranteed) and all the core libraries done. |
| 15:15.23 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: We currently have 9 tickets slanted for work before RC1 |
| 15:16.00 | Kaelten | thul: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Differences_from_Ace2_to_Ace3 |
| 15:16.02 | Xinhuan | happy 2008 :) |
| 15:16.48 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Welcome to 2008! Happy New Year | Work is the curse of the Drinking Class ~ Oscar Wilde |
| 15:17.30 | thul | ty Kaelten |
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| 15:21.03 | exor674 | you know... I should NOT be allowed to be bored <_< |
| 15:22.02 | Xinhuan | can someone explain why blizzard put +Strength talent in the holy tree (paladin) |
| 15:22.08 | Xinhuan | and not ret or prot |
| 15:22.09 | exor674 | I was bored last night |
| 15:22.12 | Kaelten | KivinSan: we're going to try to freeze when the beta is released, but I can't 100% guarantee it. |
| 15:22.32 | exor674 | and a Deadmines "BigWigs" mod came out of my bored with access to WoW and a text editor state |
| 15:22.47 | Xinhuan | that sounds like a module in LittleBigs |
| 15:22.54 | Xinhuan | i mean, suitable for it |
| 15:22.55 | exor674 | LittlerWigs! |
| 15:23.04 | Fisker- | LittlelestWig |
| 15:23.05 | Xinhuan | yes, ~_~ |
| 15:23.09 | Funkeh` | yeah because deadmines is hard |
| 15:23.14 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 15:23.15 | KivinSan | Kaelten: that's fair |
| 15:23.36 | Xinhuan | LittleWigs i meant ~_~ |
| 15:23.40 | Xinhuan | not LittleBigs hehe |
| 15:23.49 | Kaelten | but there are several addons written using Ace3 already and they (for the most part at least) are stable and functional. |
| 15:23.51 | exor674 | and besides, if Blizz ever makes heroic Deadmines |
| 15:23.58 | exor674 | great starting point for the heroic LittleWigs mod |
| 15:24.24 | Xinhuan | fyi LittleWigs already exists for 5mans :) |
| 15:24.38 | Xinhuan | it just doesn't have any azeroth/kalimdor modules |
| 15:24.48 | Xinhuan | apart from cavern of times |
| 15:25.30 | Kaelten | TinyWigs? |
| 15:26.48 | Xinhuan | i wonder how many combat log addons will survive 2.4 |
| 15:27.04 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 15:27.06 | Matrix110 | none |
| 15:27.08 | Fisker- | Littlelestwigs! |
| 15:27.17 | Ellipsis | babywigs? |
| 15:27.34 | Xinhuan | was going to say MinisculeWigs but Ellipsis came up with a better one |
| 15:27.51 | Ellipsis | ittybittywigs? |
| 15:28.09 | Elkano | rightoutofkindergardenwigs |
| 15:28.12 | exor674 | I think the ONLY thing that would be useful in it for a group is the "Look behind you" alert :D |
| 15:28.40 | KivinSan | PygmyWigs |
| 15:30.16 | Xinhuan | and maybe the "30% stun incoming" alert |
| 15:30.38 | exor674 | heh, that was a pain to get working |
| 15:30.48 | exor674 | Blizz for some reason decide to put a trailing space at the end of his says |
| 15:31.03 | Xinhuan | how is that an issue? |
| 15:31.15 | exor674 | wanted a stun duration timer :P |
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| 15:32.03 | Pkekyo| | bloody hell, why doesn't cowtip show speccs? >.< |
| 15:32.14 | Ellipsis | because you broke it |
| 15:32.29 | Pkekyo| | no I didn't |
| 15:32.30 | Pkekyo| | :< |
| 15:32.30 | Ellipsis | seriously, I'm usign the exact same tag I gave you and I've never had a problem with it :P |
| 15:32.34 | deadlock | Is there a addon that compares What's at auction to what you can make withyour profession |
| 15:32.45 | KivinSan | I figured out why I get that blasted `ERROR: Failed to find whatever on the hidden tooltip` error whenever I have CowTip running =/ |
| 15:33.08 | Pkekyo| | [Classification] lvl [Level][SmartRace] [TalentTree] [SmartClass:ClassColor] worked perfectly yesterday, but now it've gone tits up again...same with the tag you gave me Ellipsis....worked once |
| 15:33.44 | KivinSan | The last time i used talents in cowtip, it only worked for people that had rock |
| 15:33.48 | Ellipsis | sounds like a dogtag/cowtip bug for you then |
| 15:34.00 | Pkekyo| | I have rock KivinSan |
| 15:34.07 | KivinSan | You misunderstand |
| 15:34.08 | Stanzilla | KivinSan: it now uses blizz api for it |
| 15:34.11 | Ellipsis | KivinSan, it was updated to use inspected talents |
| 15:34.14 | Stanzilla | works without rock |
| 15:34.16 | KivinSan | I see |
| 15:34.34 | Ellipsis | hopefully Pkekyo|'s fairly up to date :P |
| 15:36.44 | themaj | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.08 | KivinSan | 2.4 |
| 15:37.35 | themaj | How does that affect damage meters and the likes really? Is there a possibility the data will be a cleaner parse? |
| 15:38.53 | Fisker- | addons using the combat logs will have to be rewritten |
| 15:39.04 | Fisker- | instead of parsing text it'll now send an event instead |
| 15:39.24 | xyu | How many Hearts of darkness is a good shot to go for ? |
| 15:39.25 | KivinSan | Aside from a more visually appealing combat log, we really don't know the implications, yet. |
| 15:39.28 | xyu | for a raiding guild? |
| 15:39.32 | themaj | Fisker, that should make it a lot more accurate right? My biggest question is, will it let you parse events like POM. |
| 15:39.33 | xyu | 300? |
| 15:39.51 | KivinSan | themaj: We just don't know... |
| 15:40.23 | Fisker- | you should read this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1 |
| 15:40.27 | Fisker- | This is all we know :P |
| 15:40.39 | Fisker- | Slouken updates it as we gets neare 2.4 PTR/Release |
| 15:41.55 | themaj | :P not pestering for information, just thinking out loud I guess....I like the idea of seeing what a priests healing gets to if POM was trackable...they might beat out the paladins afterall. |
| 15:42.55 | Fisker- | you'll probably not be able to distinguish between priests |
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| 15:43.03 | Stanzilla | xyu: i think 8 per person |
| 15:43.27 | themaj | Fisker, unless they tag the pom when it's cast, you're probably right though. |
| 15:43.33 | Ellipsis | I believe blue confirmed at some point that pom/lifebloom are still going to be attributed to the player with the buff |
| 15:43.37 | Fisker- | actually |
| 15:43.42 | Fisker- | this explains it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=6#102 |
| 15:43.48 | Fisker- | "The content of the logs aren't changing, just the way the information is delivered. The person with Lifebloom really is healing themselves. :)" |
| 15:43.58 | themaj | ah shame. |
| 15:44.31 | themaj | but as a tank, I do like the threat it generates :D |
| 15:44.42 | Fisker- | But yeah, people forget to take that into consideration when healing |
| 15:44.49 | Fisker- | "OMG PALAS ARE OVERPOWDREEDR !11" |
| 15:44.52 | CIA-8 | 03evenue * r57764 10TradeskillInfo/ (4 files): |
| 15:44.52 | CIA-8 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 15:44.52 | CIA-8 | - Added Titan Panel Support |
| 15:44.52 | CIA-8 | - Fixed more materials, pattern learnability |
| 15:44.52 | CIA-8 | - Stormchops is no longer sped |
| 15:45.09 | Fisker- | And in reality they would probably be last on any heal list because lifebloom and prayer of mending usually stands for a lot of healing |
| 15:45.17 | KivinSan | I'm a main healer for a raid and I didn't know Lifebloom puts threat on the tank `_` |
| 15:45.25 | Fisker- | it's a heal |
| 15:45.28 | Fisker- | heal causes threat |
| 15:45.35 | themaj | Yeah, but POM does flies around like crazy, I wonder why everyoen praises the noodle heal, but doesn't mention that Pom is about the same thing but lasts longer. |
| 15:45.35 | KivinSan | For the healer |
| 15:45.44 | Fisker- | the healer is the tank |
| 15:45.55 | themaj | Yeah, pom the tank and lifebloom him at the start, first hit he takes pom heals and generates burst threat |
| 15:45.56 | KivinSan | I can accept that... I just didn't know that was the case with this particular spell. |
| 15:46.51 | KivinSan | Sigh. Wish I could find a drood for my Kara |
| 15:47.01 | themaj | Why a druid Kivin? |
| 15:47.14 | KivinSan | Because they're uber |
| 15:47.26 | themaj | looking for a healer or tank? |
| 15:47.35 | KivinSan | Both, but I was refering to my lack of heals |
| 15:48.10 | themaj | Druids are nice to have for sure. I'm leveling my second tank as a druid right now because I want to do tanking in all tanking classes :D |
| 15:48.22 | KivinSan | I've got my personal resto shaman, and another resto shaman. But I don't want to get stuck healing, and I don't want a shaman doing single target heals |
| 15:49.08 | KivinSan | you have a pala tank? |
| 15:49.15 | themaj | not yet, that's my third |
| 15:49.18 | KivinSan | boo |
| 15:49.19 | themaj | warrior is my main |
| 15:49.39 | KivinSan | I resolved to respec my pvp retribution pala for kara tankage the other night |
| 15:49.39 | themaj | AOE tanking looks like fun :) |
| 15:49.52 | KivinSan | I hate tanking on my warrior |
| 15:50.16 | themaj | Why? tanking on a warrior is a blast! :) |
| 15:50.29 | KivinSan | Because it's annoying as hell. Sunder sunder, sunder, sunder, sunder, sunder |
| 15:50.43 | themaj | You don't sunder anymore |
| 15:50.50 | Stanzilla | devastate :P |
| 15:50.51 | KivinSan | *shrug* he's only ~50 |
| 15:50.55 | KivinSan | 46 or something |
| 15:51.05 | Xinhuan | there's a bit more to tanking than sunder ;p |
| 15:51.09 | KivinSan | The same reason I refuse to go holy pala... FoL, FoL, FoL, FoL... |
| 15:51.11 | themaj | hahaha, warrior tanking changes so much after 60 man |
| 15:51.28 | Xinhuan | taunt, challenging shout, demo shout, shield slam, devastate, etc! |
| 15:51.41 | themaj | Tanks all have to cycle their abilities man, but your biggest challenege is mitigating the damage and holding multiple mobs when needed. |
| 15:51.59 | KivinSan | Dunno... Pala tanking feels a lot more elegant to me |
| 15:52.01 | KivinSan | Each to their own |
| 15:52.06 | themaj | Warrior tanking on multiple mobs is a chore beause they limit thunderclap to 4 mobs |
| 15:52.53 | KivinSan | My only qualm with tankadin is how many stats we have to spread our item budget over |
| 15:52.58 | Fisker- | why do they limit thunderclap? O_o |
| 15:52.58 | KivinSan | Getting uncrushable is a superbitch |
| 15:53.06 | themaj | Fisker, I have NO idea |
| 15:53.10 | Lukian | holy crap at the number of changes in last recap commit :D |
| 15:53.25 | KivinSan | o.o |
| 15:53.30 | KivinSan | someone else that uses recap? |
| 15:53.32 | themaj | They basically just buffed paladins to be just about on par with warriors, AND they can AOE tank effectively....but they keep warriors mob capped. |
| 15:54.07 | Fisker- | there's the haste change |
| 15:54.09 | Fisker- | but really |
| 15:54.13 | Fisker- | that's kind of silly imo |
| 15:54.47 | Lukian | nah I don't use it.. but I might have a look at it again |
| 15:55.04 | KivinSan | Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person on the world that uses it |
| 15:55.10 | KivinSan | Most people have never heard of it |
| 15:55.21 | thul | shield slam, devastate, sunder, revenge |
| 15:55.21 | thul | etc:P |
| 15:55.30 | thul | lots of funs tuff to do as a warrior :-P |
| 15:55.51 | themaj | thul, no more sundering needed! :P |
| 15:56.01 | Xinhuan | does paladins have any non-Holy spells? |
| 15:56.12 | KivinSan | non holy damage spells, no |
| 15:56.14 | Xinhuan | any spell that isn't actually considered Holy |
| 15:56.15 | CIA-8 | 03evenue * r57765 10TradeskillInfo/TitanTSI.lua: |
| 15:56.15 | CIA-8 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 15:56.15 | CIA-8 | - Typos are the bane of existence |
| 15:56.22 | Xinhuan | like maybe just "physical" |
| 15:56.32 | KivinSan | lots of retribution stuff is considered physical holy damage... |
| 15:56.37 | KivinSan | i know that sounds paradoxical |
| 15:56.40 | Xinhuan | yeah but that's still holy |
| 15:56.47 | Xinhuan | is any spell actually not considered holy? |
| 15:56.53 | KivinSan | umm |
| 15:56.56 | KivinSan | Crusader Strike |
| 15:57.11 | KivinSan | It's physical damage... true physical damage |
| 15:57.18 | Xinhuan | so if your holy school gets locked out by a counterspell, you still can cast crusader strike? |
| 15:57.27 | KivinSan | I can crusader strike while silenced |
| 15:57.39 | KivinSan | It's a pala mortal strike |
| 15:57.56 | Xinhuan | that doesn't quite answer my question though ;p |
| 15:58.46 | Xinhuan | being silenced isn't the same as being school-locked-out |
| 15:58.47 | Lukian | I've found I can cast seals while silenced, but I think school locking pretty much roots a paladin |
| 15:59.03 | KivinSan | I'm reasonably certain you can't lock out Crustrike |
| 15:59.16 | Dezzimal | you can pain supression while silenced :o |
| 15:59.45 | Xinhuan | i might as well say you can cast Blink while you are stunned, silence is irrelevant |
| 16:00.01 | Fisker- | it's physical school |
| 16:00.13 | Fisker- | it doesn't give damage on zul'jin either |
| 16:00.16 | Dezzimal | yeah Xinhuan |
| 16:00.21 | Dezzimal | thats pretty irritating to me |
| 16:00.24 | Xinhuan | can't blink when your arcane tree is locked out |
| 16:00.31 | Dezzimal | if I stun a mage while he's silenced he blinks |
| 16:00.33 | thul | mages can't blink if i garrote them |
| 16:00.34 | Dezzimal | on my priest |
| 16:00.47 | Dezzimal | no they can blink through garrote |
| 16:00.53 | thul | no? |
| 16:00.56 | Dezzimal | yes |
| 16:00.59 | thul | no? |
| 16:01.03 | Dezzimal | yes |
| 16:01.06 | thul | I have never had a mage blink trough my garrote :-P |
| 16:01.07 | KivinSan | since when did garrote do anything other than bleed damage? |
| 16:01.08 | Dezzimal | if they're stunned while garrote is up |
| 16:01.11 | Dezzimal | they can blink |
| 16:01.12 | thul | KivinSan: it silences |
| 16:01.19 | thul | KivinSan: for 3 secs |
| 16:01.21 | KivinSan | holy smokes... i have a 64 rogue but haven't played him in ages |
| 16:01.22 | thul | since... 2.0 |
| 16:01.26 | thul | or something |
| 16:01.32 | KivinSan | shows you how arcaeic my rogue is |
| 16:01.42 | Xinhuan | you can blink as long as you're stunned, being silenced or not is irrelevant, that's how silly it is |
| 16:01.45 | thul | Dezzimal: well, that is not "they can blink trough garrote" that is "they can blink trough garrote if someone else fucks up" |
| 16:01.54 | Xinhuan | of course if you are silenced, you can't cast anything even after blinking out |
| 16:02.28 | KivinSan | HoJ > Blink > Repent = teh fun. I love ganking mages |
| 16:03.35 | thul | I love ambush > blink > shadowstep > backstab |
| 16:03.35 | thul | :-P |
| 16:04.01 | KivinSan | lolstep... gah |
| 16:04.23 | thul | 5-6k damage on mage, no damage on me, he has blink on cd, i don't have CloS on cd :-P |
| 16:04.27 | thul | :-D |
| 16:04.46 | Dezzimal | wow this shaman is named... |
| 16:04.50 | Dezzimal | bixnoodzap |
| 16:04.56 | Xinhuan | the ret pally in my guild just found out that using Judgement of Light on Zuljin phase 3 is bad |
| 16:04.56 | KivinSan | ... report? |
| 16:05.05 | KivinSan | what does Zuljin do? |
| 16:05.06 | Xinhuan | every heal proc deals 1200 damage lol |
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| 16:05.22 | KivinSan | *blink* |
| 16:05.23 | KivinSan | rofl... |
| 16:05.30 | Dezzimal | KivinSan: is that offensive? |
| 16:05.34 | Dezzimal | I don't think it is |
| 16:05.36 | thul | what does that mean Dezzimal ? :-P |
| 16:05.41 | KivinSan | Dezzimal: *shrug* You can get *anything* replaced on my server |
| 16:05.43 | Dezzimal | its supposed to be jive |
| 16:05.44 | Dezzimal | lol |
| 16:05.59 | Dezzimal | doesn't mean anything |
| 16:07.08 | KivinSan | sigh. |
| 16:07.10 | KivinSan | Make it stop snowing. |
| 16:07.42 | Dezzimal | why? |
| 16:07.52 | KivinSan | Because it's piling up out there and it's a fucking mess |
| 16:08.06 | thul | http://www.1startside.com/spill/?spill_id=bigjump_challenge |
| 16:08.12 | KivinSan | It's already knee-deep and it's still a total whiteout |
| 16:10.31 | Fisker- | I NEED PATCH NOW :( |
| 16:10.53 | Dezzimal | I'm trying to get my bartender bars + binds to copy over from my priest to my shaman on a different server/account |
| 16:11.01 | Dezzimal | anyone know what files I would need to copy or rename to do that? |
| 16:11.09 | thul | and I'm thinking about transfering my ally chars to Argent Dawn |
| 16:11.15 | thul | and my horde ones to another one, dunno which though |
| 16:12.57 | exor674 | <account>/SavedVars/Bartender.lua I thinl |
| 16:13.26 | Dezzimal | yeah that would have to be |
| 16:13.32 | Dezzimal | thats the only thing I haven't copied |
| 16:13.34 | Dezzimal | success |
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| 16:16.09 | cncfanatics | <account>/SavedVars/Bartender3.lua ? |
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| 16:46.50 | Funkeh` | 'Yesterday afternoon the forums crashed after an organized site-based attack hit our already overloaded server. I spent almost 9 hours trying to get the site back online - it's not going to happen under this load and there aren't enough techs working New Year's day to get the hardware in place to handle all of you.' |
| 16:46.55 | Funkeh` | http://www.myndflame.com/ -- |
| 16:47.06 | Funkeh` | If you're going to refresh this page for updates, please at least wait 5-10 minutes. We're putting the movie online with or without this site. It's 9:41am EST right now. |
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| 16:50.14 | Xinhuan | haha |
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| 16:51.56 | Fisker- | yeah it was an ATTACK! |
| 16:52.41 | Xinhuan | when typing becomes an error.... |
| 16:52.44 | Xinhuan | Assassination -> Assassubation |
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| 17:09.27 | JoshBorke | you know, i had that quote ("Work is the curse of the Drinking Class") as a question when i played cranium this weekend... |
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| 17:17.49 | kergoth | blizz should give us a super rare chance to prospect an epic gem from adamantite, like 0.5% or something |
| 17:17.52 | kergoth | just to keep things interesting |
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| 17:20.22 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 17:20.28 | JoshBorke | you should do more coding |
| 17:20.33 | JoshBorke | just to keep things interesting |
| 17:20.33 | Pkekyo| | !ap 1470 |
| 17:20.33 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo|: Arena points from a rating of 1470 is, 2v2: 256, 3v3: 296, 5v5: 337 |
| 17:20.35 | kergoth | true |
| 17:24.07 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:24.12 | Fisker- | give jewelcrafters more money |
| 17:24.18 | Fisker- | They obviously don't have enough |
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| 17:24.35 | Fisker- | I also think all items should have a 0,5% chance to yield a full stack of large prismatic shards |
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| 17:25.56 | Gnarfoz | I concur |
| 17:27.02 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 17:37.49 | Xinhuan | as a JC/Enchanter, i agree with all of the above |
| 17:37.55 | Xinhuan | 81k gold isn't enough |
| 17:38.51 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 17:39.44 | Xinhuan | at this moment, two lvl 19 twinks is harassing me for twink enchants |
| 17:40.24 | CIA-8 | 03darchon * r57766 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: Bartender3: koKR typo fix |
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| 17:58.07 | Industrial | Xinhuan: isnt that, like, profit? |
| 17:58.15 | Industrial | or your own twinks |
| 17:58.15 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:58.26 | Industrial | I wonder if a 19 druid twink would work |
| 17:58.34 | Industrial | pally certainly does :D |
| 18:00.06 | Arrowmaster | druids only have bear form at 19 |
| 18:02.21 | Codayus | Bear form twinks aren't bad at 19. |
| 18:03.55 | Lukian | Your mum wasn't bad at 19 |
| 18:04.03 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 18:04.21 | Lukian | haha couldn't resist that one ^_^ |
| 18:07.42 | deadlock | my minimap is off my screen |
| 18:07.48 | deadlock | is there a way to eset |
| 18:07.50 | deadlock | reset |
| 18:08.17 | Lukian | yes |
| 18:08.33 | deadlock | Lukian: How? |
| 18:08.51 | Lukian | There's probably an easier way, but you could just rename your WTF folder :p |
| 18:09.08 | Lukian | or use a minimap addon to nudge it back |
| 18:09.16 | Lukian | or a moveanything addon |
| 18:10.31 | deadlock | hmm |
| 18:10.40 | deadlock | see i cant even select it tho |
| 18:10.45 | deadlock | sothat wouldnt help |
| 18:11.25 | Lukian | you can move any element if you know it's name (I'm sure the information is available for the name of the minimap somewhere) |
| 18:11.36 | mort | use the ui sclae setting |
| 18:11.40 | Lukian | did you try scaling down your UI to see if it's just off to the side/ |
| 18:11.52 | Lukian | or increasing your res. temporarily |
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| 18:13.30 | deadlock | i got it |
| 18:13.35 | deadlock | just reset mny minimap settings |
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| 18:13.42 | deadlock | its all messed u but atleast its there |
| 18:14.21 | Codayus | If you do try a druid twink, make sure to use a counterweight. Much the best of your options for passive weapon enchants at that level. |
| 18:14.32 | yssaril | anyone know of an addon that will dump all events(or selected events) into a chatbox? |
| 18:14.42 | yssaril | as they are happening :) |
| 18:15.13 | Wogroipl | I think Prat has a module for that |
| 18:15.54 | yssaril | cool thanks will look into it |
| 18:16.47 | Thrae | Haha. Even though it's got Luke Wilson, "Idiocracy" is already hilarious. |
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| 18:47.08 | Zariel | How would you create a button to cast a spell? |
| 18:47.25 | Antiarc | Is there an existing mod that provides a buff uptime vs combat for raid members? |
| 18:47.34 | Antiarc | s/combat/combat time/ |
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| 18:48.31 | Pkekyo| | ~seen ckknight |
| 18:48.33 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (8m 27s) #wowace (8m 27s), last said: '(NSFW)'. |
| 18:48.45 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: ping |
| 18:51.07 | Antiarc | ~seen Roartindon |
| 18:51.08 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-134-207.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 13h 30m 30s ago, saying: 'Hey Pkekyo'. |
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| 18:54.59 | Zariel | how would you can you secure call cast a spell from a button click? |
| 18:55.11 | Industrial | set attributes |
| 18:56.01 | Zariel | when i click it it says action blocked |
| 18:56.13 | Zariel | local f = CreateFrame("Button", "WaterBowlBUTTON", UIParent, "SecureActionButtonTemplate") |
| 19:04.31 | Zariel | which attributes need to be set Industrial? |
| 19:05.33 | haste | that depends on what you want to do |
| 19:06.45 | Zariel | Cast one spell |
| 19:07.09 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Ellipsis |
| 19:07.11 | purl | ellipsis is currently on #wowace (1d 23h 22m 42s). Has said a total of 94 messages. Is idling for 1h 3m 8s, last said: 'oh snap'. |
| 19:07.20 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: pingalingdingdong? |
| 19:08.02 | Zariel | Trying to create a button on screen to cast water shield on click |
| 19:10.59 | Pkekyo| | can you do /who <subzone>? or only /who <zone>? |
| 19:11.31 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: pongalongalong! |
| 19:11.49 | Pkekyo| | yay |
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| 19:11.58 | Pkekyo| | err...got this problem with cowtip, as you might've noticed :p |
| 19:12.43 | Pkekyo| | [Classification] lvl[Level] [SmartRace] [TalentTree] [SmartClass:ClassColor] is the string I use |
| 19:12.52 | Pkekyo| | see anything that should cause it to go tits up? |
| 19:14.10 | Pkekyo| | seems the string won't initialize in cowtip before I go to the edit menu for the text lines and press "done/ok" or whatev the button says |
| 19:15.42 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof * r57767 10/branches/Proximo/: Proximo: Branch for 2.0 conversion |
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| 19:16.13 | Xinhuan | f:SetAttribute("*type*", "macro") f:SetAttribute("macrotext1", "/cast Water Shield") |
| 19:16.14 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof 072.0 * r57768 10Proximo/: Proximo: Branch for 2.0/Ace3 conversion |
| 19:16.16 | Xinhuan | soemthing like that |
| 19:16.30 | Xinhuan | and it will work on your button |
| 19:17.07 | Industrial | or just type spell |
| 19:17.15 | Industrial | er, right? |
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| 19:17.19 | Xinhuan | you also need to f:RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonUp", "RightButtonUp") |
| 19:17.22 | Xinhuan | not sure on that one |
| 19:17.30 | Industrial | nah buttons have that |
| 19:17.41 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof 072.0 * r57769 10Proximo/: Proximo: deleting |
| 19:17.50 | Xinhuan | yeah you can also specify "type" as "spell" |
| 19:18.04 | Xinhuan | and list "spell1" as "Water Shield" |
| 19:18.06 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof 072.0 * r57770 10Proximo/: Proximo: Branching to work on 2.0/Ace3 conversion |
| 19:18.14 | Xinhuan | 1 here means your left button |
| 19:18.19 | Xinhuan | 2 means right button |
| 19:19.18 | Xinhuan | lol seeing as proximo uses babble2-2 and dewdroplib, it could be problematic converting to ace3 without using ace2 |
| 19:19.26 | JoshBorke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 19:19.26 | purl | chops Xinhuan in half with a free AOL CD |
| 19:20.04 | thul | i love shadowstep in pvp |
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| 19:23.15 | Shadowed | he uses babble for class icons or something obscure i'd think |
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| 19:24.27 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, how do you figure that |
| 19:24.41 | Funkeh` | babble is nothing you can't easily do on your own |
| 19:24.49 | Xinhuan | i used 0.1% of my brain power |
| 19:24.50 | Funkeh` | and acegui is a far better replacement for dewdroplib |
| 19:25.00 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, use more, or the rest will rot |
| 19:25.14 | Xinhuan | that's the problematic part, rewriting the whole gui :) |
| 19:25.23 | Xinhuan | not that its too difficult |
| 19:25.32 | Funkeh` | it just takes work and effort |
| 19:25.36 | Xinhuan | now i'm hungry |
| 19:25.39 | Funkeh` | but then again, what doesn't |
| 19:25.43 | Xinhuan | suggest something i can eat |
| 19:25.52 | Funkeh` | something that doesn't take work and effort |
| 19:25.53 | Shadowed | rewriting the GUI wouldn't be that hard, proximo just uses an ace2 slash command table if i recall |
| 19:25.56 | Funkeh` | like microwave pizza |
| 19:26.12 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof 072.0 * r57771 10Proximo/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Proximo: Moved class based methods to own file. Removed Babble Class. Converted to using UnitClass 2nd return value for syncs. Moved class locals to internal table (may move to AceLocale later) |
| 19:26.22 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 19:26.22 | Funkeh` | see? |
| 19:26.24 | Funkeh` | easy |
| 19:26.30 | Xinhuan | hah he made the effort |
| 19:26.34 | Funkeh` | bbl |
| 19:26.47 | Xinhuan | the available choices are 1. 24/7 shop 10 min away that only sells noodles at 3.30 am 2. mcdonalds 24/7 delivery service |
| 19:26.48 | Shadowed | about damn time |
| 19:26.51 | Xinhuan | that's for my food |
| 19:26.54 | Shadowed | that someone passes the unlocalized class |
| 19:26.55 | Shadowed | bastards |
| 19:26.58 | Xinhuan | well, and 3. cook my own noodles |
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| 19:27.09 | Industrial | Xinhuan: mcdonalds has delivery? |
| 19:27.14 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 19:27.18 | Shadowed | wtf they do? |
| 19:27.27 | Xinhuan | in singapore, mcdonalds delivers islandwide 24/7 everyday everynight |
| 19:27.39 | Xinhuan | KFC, TacoBells and Pizza Hut deliver between 11am-11pm |
| 19:27.56 | Xinhuan | $3 delivery charge |
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| 19:28.00 | Xinhuan | no minimum order |
| 19:28.13 | Xinhuan | orders above $200 require at least 2 hours in advance |
| 19:28.23 | Shadowed | 3$ is pretty cheap |
| 19:28.28 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 19:28.42 | Xinhuan | let me put it in perspective - a McChicken meal costs about $5.70 here |
| 19:28.51 | Xinhuan | so tack on delivery, that's 8.70 |
| 19:29.01 | Shadowed | well |
| 19:29.24 | Xinhuan | and at 3am, it typically arrives within... 15 minutes |
| 19:29.27 | Shadowed | 3$ is still prety cheap for doing delivery of a simple 4$-6$ meal |
| 19:30.23 | Xinhuan | yeah they use bikes, i imagine by law they have to park that somewhere incurring some fees |
| 19:30.34 | Xinhuan | while they go up to your unit |
| 19:31.07 | Xinhuan | by bikes i mean motorbikes, not bicycles |
| 19:31.12 | Xinhuan | ;) |
| 19:31.13 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:31.26 | Fisker- | you just ruined my sex fantasy |
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| 19:33.12 | Xinhuan | i can imagine fisker imagining a sex scene with a mcchicken meal |
| 19:33.18 | Xinhuan | right |
| 19:33.52 | Fisker- | that wasn't what it was about at all |
| 19:34.13 | Fisker- | So |
| 19:34.27 | Fisker- | The delivery guy knocks on the door |
| 19:34.33 | Fisker- | i open and shoot him with my desert eagle |
| 19:34.40 | Fisker- | then i grease myself up in the mcchicken meal |
| 19:34.46 | Fisker- | and i go rape the bicycle |
| 19:35.03 | Industrial | rofl |
| 19:35.40 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, what the fuck |
| 19:35.42 | Funkeh` | really |
| 19:35.54 | Xinhuan | ok :) |
| 19:36.00 | haste | Fisker-: I have what you need! |
| 19:36.04 | haste | Fisker-: http://www.dannychoo.com/slide/eng/comike73/17519/photo/C73+Dakimakura/ << this |
| 19:36.23 | Shadowed | it's scary that haste pulled that link up within about 70 seconds |
| 19:36.31 | Gnarfoz | Fisker- just freaks me out sometimes, really |
| 19:36.48 | Fisker- | heh |
| 19:36.53 | Fisker- | i got a mousepad like that once |
| 19:37.37 | Thrae | Is there a unit frame customizer? |
| 19:37.50 | Shadowed | Thrae got a lua editer? |
| 19:37.58 | Thrae | Shadowed: Funny |
| 19:38.07 | Shadowed | not if it's the truth! |
| 19:38.22 | Thrae | Yes, I was going to make one myself if there wasn't one already, but haven't you heard of "don't re-invent the wheel"? |
| 19:38.34 | Shadowed | yea |
| 19:38.42 | Shadowed | then we got the huge monster called Ace2 |
| 19:38.44 | Shadowed | so that worked out well =p |
| 19:39.14 | Thrae | Shadowed: Don't you use Dongle or Ace3? |
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| 19:39.20 | Shadowed | yea |
| 19:39.23 | Shadowed | but not Ace2 |
| 19:39.45 | Funkeh` | there is no reason to use ace2 |
| 19:39.46 | Industrial | rofl haste |
| 19:39.49 | Industrial | wha is that |
| 19:39.49 | Funkeh` | with ace3 availabl |
| 19:39.59 | Shadowed | Industrial, the best wrist supporting mousepad available |
| 19:40.06 | Shadowed | Funkeh`, ace2 has more libraries available. duh |
| 19:40.15 | Funkeh` | Shadow00Caster, not really |
| 19:40.17 | Funkeh` | wtf |
| 19:40.20 | Funkeh` | tab ftl |
| 19:40.36 | Funkeh` | Shadow00Caster, change your name |
| 19:40.52 | haste | Industrial: it's a mousepad.. with boobs! |
| 19:41.06 | Thrae | Ace2 was made from Ace with the same idea of centralized development and optimization without the problem of dependencies, but along the way, the vision changed. The original vision was still good, and that's now in Ace3 and Dongle. |
| 19:41.14 | Shadowed | ace3 still doesn't have a candybar type of library |
| 19:41.20 | Shadowed | since [ammo] is a slacker! |
| 19:41.24 | Funkeh` | thats the only real lack |
| 19:41.30 | Funkeh` | I keep bitching at ammo to make it |
| 19:41.35 | Funkeh` | he must hate me by now |
| 19:41.43 | Thrae | omg, it has no GloryLib either |
| 19:41.44 | Funkeh` | he started a planning but doubt he started coding |
| 19:42.03 | Shadowed | yea |
| 19:42.07 | Shadowed | I should test mine somepoint I guess |
| 19:42.14 | Funkeh` | but lots of libs using LS now which is good |
| 19:42.18 | Xinhuan | if it makes you feel any happier, none of my addons use Ace2 either. |
| 19:42.40 | Xinhuan | but some of them use ace2 libraries |
| 19:42.49 | Shadowed | the AL ones still use LibStub technically |
| 19:42.55 | Shadowed | just in an obscure way |
| 19:43.00 | Xinhuan | i use ItemBonusLib in WoWEquip |
| 19:43.11 | JoshBorke | what's a good linux bittorrent client like utorrent? |
| 19:43.17 | Xinhuan | itembonuslib uses gratuitylib and deformatlib |
| 19:43.19 | Xinhuan | so |
| 19:43.21 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 19:43.27 | Xinhuan | i can't really get rid of the dependency |
| 19:43.28 | Funkeh` | utorrent has a linux alternative i'm sure |
| 19:43.46 | Thrae | JoshBorke: Do you need an X-based GUI? Otherwise, use rTorrent, it rocks. It's interface is in ncurses, so you can screen it. |
| 19:44.05 | Thrae | JoshBorke: But if you're a graphical GUI whore, use KTorrent. |
| 19:44.10 | JoshBorke | Thrae: i'll try it out, thanks. |
| 19:44.13 | JoshBorke | i'm both :-d |
| 19:44.22 | Thrae | JoshBorke: Note -- best compile rTorrent yourself |
| 19:45.00 | haste | just don't use the SVN :p |
| 19:45.14 | Thrae | haste: Why not? |
| 19:45.32 | haste | it's very unstable at times |
| 19:45.35 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:45.40 | Fisker- | stupid stargate producers |
| 19:45.45 | Fisker- | can't even keep their movie leakfree |
| 19:45.47 | haste | well.. it's very unstable when he doesn't put up a unstable version |
| 19:45.53 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, fuck that |
| 19:45.53 | Fisker- | and now i have to watch it without soundeffects |
| 19:45.55 | Fisker- | baawww |
| 19:46.11 | Funkeh` | like i'm going to wait until march |
| 19:46.13 | Funkeh` | it rocked |
| 19:46.14 | Thrae | haste: Eh yeah I had some crashing prolems, but he fixed those -- the recent version is pretty stable |
| 19:46.15 | bigzero | So how close is Ace3 from being released onto trunk/WAU? |
| 19:46.19 | Fisker- | yeah Funkeh` |
| 19:46.20 | Funkeh` | apart from the lack of effects |
| 19:46.23 | Fisker- | i'm downloading it as well |
| 19:46.32 | Fisker- | can't keep myself from it |
| 19:46.32 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:46.42 | haste | Thrae: odds are that you'll hit a "in the middle of changing stuff"-revision tho' |
| 19:46.47 | haste | especially atm |
| 19:47.02 | haste | but as long as he has a unstable snapshot out, your pretty much safe |
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| 19:47.12 | Thrae | haste: True, but that's what svn trunks are for. I normally only update to known stable revisions (I watch Trac) |
| 19:47.57 | haste | yep, but don't just recommend anyone to fetch the trunk :p |
| 19:47.59 | Thrae | bigzero: Why does it need to be in /trunk? |
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| 19:49.22 | Thrae | Unless your hard drive is like 3000 RPM, there's really no benefit of dis-embedding except for debugging and badly coded addons. |
| 19:51.14 | bigzero | so if there Ace3 would not be in trunk it would be left embeded by WAU? |
| 19:51.37 | bigzero | if you select install without externals |
| 19:51.53 | Thrae | bigzero: No, trunk has nothing to do with embedding or disembeding |
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| 19:52.44 | bigzero | I thought that's where WAU gets all the addons..from trunk |
| 19:53.00 | Thrae | bigzero: Ace3 isn't an addon per-say, it's a library. |
| 19:53.00 | Industrial | from zips |
| 19:53.17 | Thrae | You'll never need to download Ace3 directly, so there's no need for it in trunk. |
| 19:53.34 | bigzero | Industrial, right, but the zips are generated from the trunk dir |
| 19:54.16 | bigzero | Thrae, you yourself won't, but when selecting install without externals on WAU, that's what WAU does anyway...right? |
| 19:54.17 | Industrial | ..i know |
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| 19:54.59 | bigzero | Industrial, so my point is that if I select install without externals, and WAU does not have Ace3 on the list (since it's not in trunk), will it leave just that embeded? |
| 19:56.32 | bigzero | because the way I figured is that WAU doesn't really look at the contents of embeds.xml, it just gets rid of all the <script> and <include> entries in it, which would mean that it either has to disembed all or none of the addons |
| 19:56.37 | Industrial | bigzero: dont use any of those "externals" and "disembed" options at all |
| 19:56.50 | Industrial | bigzero: its a load of crap imo |
| 19:57.07 | bigzero | see, I don't have a problem doing that, but then you have to explain it to the end user |
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| 19:57.53 | Industrial | if you have a long load time |
| 19:57.56 | Industrial | use less addons |
| 19:58.01 | Industrial | problem fixed. |
| 19:59.23 | silentium | WAU doesnt edit the embeds.xml at all, the server scripts do |
| 19:59.38 | Industrial | its great that someone at some point found out that "disembedding" things would make it a bit faster |
| 19:59.42 | Industrial | but its not a magical fix |
| 20:00.39 | bigzero | silentium, doh...that's right. though that doesn't fix the problem |
| 20:01.35 | Industrial | but um just ignore me. I'm just ano anoying nagging person. |
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| 20:03.19 | Industrial | kekek newest wow insult; "did you get wow for christmas" |
| 20:03.26 | Industrial | im already running into nublets :D |
| 20:03.27 | Xinhuan | silentium, the server scripts doesn't edit embeds.xml, it completely replaces the one provided by a generic empty one |
| 20:04.03 | bigzero | Industrial, the two options are nice to have for organization purposes, but the fact that Ace3 is not in trunk, using it makes the "Install without externals" option in WAU obsolete |
| 20:04.52 | Xinhuan | bigzero, that would largely depend on how future libraries work out |
| 20:05.20 | Industrial | bigzero: im saying the option shouldnt be there in the first place |
| 20:05.27 | Xinhuan | what if a library in the future depended on ace3serializer and ace3event? |
| 20:05.36 | Xinhuan | (aka threat-1.0) |
| 20:05.41 | Industrial | needless confusing complicated talk for uneffective means to trying to solve a problem that doesnt exist. |
| 20:05.44 | Industrial | there. |
| 20:06.32 | Industrial | why do people want to run disembedded? |
| 20:06.34 | bigzero | Industrial: can't undo what's been done |
| 20:06.40 | Industrial | because pete said its faster |
| 20:06.43 | Industrial | yes we can, take it out |
| 20:06.44 | bigzero | well...i guess you can |
| 20:06.47 | bigzero | lol |
| 20:06.50 | Xinhuan | how would such a library that depended on ace3serializer and ace3event, how would this interact with the embeds system |
| 20:07.29 | Xinhuan | Industrial, people run disembedded to minimize loading time, so you don't load 200 copies of the same library to throw away 199 copies |
| 20:08.04 | Industrial | so run less addons |
| 20:08.21 | Xinhuan | run less addons is just one of many possible solutions |
| 20:08.21 | Industrial | 200 addons is retarded. its like stuffing a small car with clowns. |
| 20:08.29 | Xinhuan | 200 is just an example number |
| 20:08.38 | bigzero | Xinhuan, I might not really grasp the big change in Ace3, but how would it be that much different from what it is now...in terms of ace3serializer, ace3event |
| 20:08.38 | Industrial | replace by "too much" |
| 20:09.07 | Xinhuan | there is no need to load the core ace2 30 times by 30 small ace2 addons (most of which are small fubar plugins |
| 20:09.33 | Industrial | then thats a design flaw |
| 20:09.54 | Xinhuan | it certainly is |
| 20:10.23 | bigzero | but do we really have a different way of doing it...without the disembeds? |
| 20:11.02 | Industrial | name addons by version |
| 20:11.12 | Industrial | and dont embed at all |
| 20:11.45 | Xinhuan | would really depend on how modularized addons are written in the future |
| 20:12.11 | Xinhuan | the fact that FubarPlugin-2.0 depended on ace2 meant that small plugins needed to embed the whole ace2 in it |
| 20:12.52 | Thrae | But no more, for FuBarPlugin-3.0 uses the rock-solid...Rock! |
| 20:13.07 | Thrae | Now it only need include the entirity of Rock! |
| 20:13.53 | CIA-8 | 03lilsparky * r57772 10LilSparkysLabPartner/ (2 files): |
| 20:13.53 | CIA-8 | LilSparkysLabPartner: |
| 20:13.53 | CIA-8 | - fixed a filtering issue that caused mismatches during docraft() |
| 20:14.36 | Industrial | Xinhuan: not if it depended on Ace-2.0-3 |
| 20:14.41 | Thrae | So, any modular unit frame addons out there? |
| 20:14.43 | Industrial | and another addon on Ace-2.0-4 |
| 20:14.52 | Industrial | you'd run two versions |
| 20:14.59 | Thrae | There's an Ace4? |
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| 20:15.26 | Industrial | ~lart Thrae |
| 20:15.26 | purl | decapitates Thrae conan the destroyer style |
| 20:15.32 | JoshBorke | Industrial: so now instead of loading and discarding n-1 copies you load n copies? o.O |
| 20:17.23 | Industrial | JoshBorke: you make it possible for multiple versions to coexist easily without breaking things |
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| 20:17.52 | Xinhuan | that would defeat the purpose of a shared code base - libraries |
| 20:17.52 | Industrial | like, um, any linux package manager |
| 20:18.18 | JoshBorke | Industrial: not exactly. |
| 20:18.25 | bigzero | yeah, I don't see how that's a step forward |
| 20:18.54 | Industrial | Xinhuan: isnt the purpose easy development? |
| 20:18.57 | JoshBorke | Industrial: applications are not distributed with the libraries installed into the program directory, they install libraries into shared locations so that other applications know where to look and use them |
| 20:19.03 | Xinhuan | it is both |
| 20:19.32 | Xinhuan | by having a shared code base, it makes development easy as the foundation is already there for you to build on |
| 20:19.35 | JoshBorke | perhaps a "good" solution is to (laugh) "standardize" on a directory where libraries should be installed and all libraries are distributed as subdirectories in that library directory |
| 20:19.47 | Thrae | You can't force everyone to use the same set of libraries, all you can do is make sure they don't break each other and try to convince people to just use one. |
| 20:20.16 | Xinhuan | what if we insist that Ace3 must be installed as a standalone addon? |
| 20:20.31 | Industrial | Xinhuan: my point |
| 20:20.32 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:20.38 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: i say gfy |
| 20:20.50 | Xinhuan | JoshBorke, why |
| 20:21.12 | Xinhuan | also no idea what that stands for |
| 20:21.24 | Industrial | ~wtf gfy |
| 20:21.25 | bigzero | JoshBorke, so let's "standardize" Interface/Addons/ as the dir for all the libs... |
| 20:21.29 | JoshBorke | go fuck yourself :-P |
| 20:21.29 | Matrix110 | i think good for you but iam not sure |
| 20:21.35 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 20:22.02 | Xinhuan | well lets look at it this way, we have a .NET framework |
| 20:22.05 | bigzero | there we go, we're back to disembedding |
| 20:22.07 | Amadeo | I thought it was giant fiery yams |
| 20:22.15 | Industrial | rofl |
| 20:22.16 | Xinhuan | all programs that use that .net framework.. only need that installed once |
| 20:22.40 | Xinhuan | most programs don't come bundled with it |
| 20:22.49 | dylanm | How well is that going |
| 20:22.51 | Industrial | what if it breaks? everything that depends on that one running version will have to upgrade |
| 20:23.18 | bigzero | but you only update the .net framework...not individual programs |
| 20:23.40 | Industrial | yea I assumed it ships with the programs |
| 20:23.53 | Xinhuan | if a program needs a update that would affect other addons, it could include its own override update of that lib |
| 20:23.58 | bigzero | unless you assume that by breaking the interface changes (loss of function) |
| 20:24.06 | Xinhuan | by program, i mean addon |
| 20:24.44 | Industrial | nvm im lieing down for a while :( sick :( |
| 20:24.51 | Industrial | lying whatever |
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| 20:26.18 | bigzero | Xinhuan, so basically a decent solution would be to simply have checks for certain libraries in each addon and inform the user to download them separately if they're not yet present. No embedding at all |
| 20:26.39 | Industrial | thats how it used to be |
| 20:26.42 | Xinhuan | i think embedding is alright on the 2nd tier |
| 20:26.48 | Industrial | people started complaining about it |
| 20:26.50 | Xinhuan | but not the 1st tier |
| 20:26.58 | JoshBorke | it didn't work with ACe1 |
| 20:27.04 | JoshBorke | because the API wasn't stable in Ace1 |
| 20:27.04 | Xinhuan | by 1st tier, i mean the bottom layer - ace3 |
| 20:27.19 | Xinhuan | by 2nd tier, i mean libs that use ace3 - threat-2.0 for eg |
| 20:27.38 | bigzero | Xinhuan, why would you be embedding on 1st tier anyway? |
| 20:28.04 | Xinhuan | atm if you download any addon, it comes with the whole of 1st tier just because the 2nd tier needs it |
| 20:28.17 | bigzero | oh, that's what you meant |
| 20:28.22 | Xinhuan | if the 1st tier is forced to be disembedded, then that wouldn't be required |
| 20:28.49 | Xinhuan | and packaging addons with 2nd tier libs wouldn't bring much complaints |
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| 20:29.03 | Xinhuan | since 2nd tier libs are likely to be specialized and not loaded multiple times |
| 20:29.12 | Xinhuan | unlike the 1st tier libs |
| 20:29.37 | bigzero | partial disembedding... |
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| 20:29.46 | Xinhuan | at least, you are very unlikely to be running more than 2 or 3 addons that make use of the same 2nd tier libs |
| 20:29.46 | bigzero | sounds ok |
| 20:30.03 | Matrix110 | lets summarize: you cant please everyone:p |
| 20:30.14 | Zariel | what attributes need to be set to allow a button to cast a spell? |
| 20:30.32 | Xinhuan | [1/2 03:18:06] <Xinhuan> f:SetAttribute("*type*", "macro") f:SetAttribute("macrotext1", "/cast Water Shield") |
| 20:30.34 | Xinhuan | that's it |
| 20:30.44 | Zariel | thanks |
| 20:31.30 | bigzero | thought tbh I don't see a problem with disembedding the way it is set up now...except that the server-side script could be more sophisticated at disembedding |
| 20:31.54 | Matrix110 | bigzero its people that arent familiar with that got problems with it |
| 20:32.14 | Dw` | I have two addons that I no longer have time to put work into, however they will likley break upon 2.4, is there a good place to find someone to take over the addons? |
| 20:32.21 | Matrix110 | if they get 2 folders inside a .zip they already ask if they need both folders inside the addon folder... |
| 20:32.26 | Zariel | Xinhuan, how do you call that OnClick? |
| 20:32.35 | Xinhuan | you don't, it just works |
| 20:32.42 | Zariel | ok |
| 20:33.09 | Xinhuan | to be more specific, when you click the button, the secureactionbuttontemplate you inherited has a secure <OnClick> handler |
| 20:33.12 | bigzero | I'm retarded for bringing this up...all you need to do is not put addons that aren't in trunk in the embeds.xml file...problem solved. Though I still hope Ace3 gets put in trunk soonish |
| 20:33.19 | Xinhuan | that reads in the values of the attributes that is set |
| 20:33.23 | bigzero | Dw` what addons? |
| 20:33.25 | Xinhuan | and casts the appropriate spell/macro |
| 20:34.07 | Dw` | bigzero: ProxDim and MagicTrack . they are simple addons (not very fun to write) but effective. |
| 20:34.35 | bigzero | Dw`, just post on the wowace forums that you're no longer developing them and if someone finds them useful and want to continue they'll know they can |
| 20:34.44 | bigzero | assuming they are on the wowace svn |
| 20:34.55 | Dw` | bigzero: thanks |
| 20:35.08 | Xinhuan | Dw`, the thing is, because they are likely to break on 2.4 |
| 20:35.12 | Xinhuan | its probably to do a total rewrite |
| 20:35.17 | Xinhuan | probably better* |
| 20:35.26 | Xinhuan | we dont' know the full changes for 2.4 |
| 20:35.44 | bigzero | they use combat even parsing? |
| 20:35.47 | Xinhuan | they could improve combat log reporting to the point a much more sophisticated addon could be written |
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| 20:35.53 | Matrix110 | hopefully next week 2.3.2 comes and 2.4 PTR soon :P |
| 20:35.54 | Xinhuan | or they might not, we don't know |
| 20:36.31 | Xinhuan | it is somewhat pointless to write any new addons at this time knowing it will break on 2.4 |
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| 20:36.43 | bigzero | Hey, is 2.3.2 really fixing the taint issues with blizzard context menus (specifically interested in the chatframe dropdowns) |
| 20:36.52 | Dw` | What would you suggest if one of the addons has no ace2 relationship whatsoever? Still throw it on the svn and if someone wants to change it they can? |
| 20:36.54 | Xinhuan | dunno, go test on ptr |
| 20:37.07 | Xinhuan | dw', yes that is allowed |
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| 20:38.02 | Xinhuan | i might forsee a few arena junkies to improve magictrack, but in most addon author's eyes, it isn't really feasible or worth the effort pending 2.4 |
| 20:38.04 | Dw` | Xinhuan: Thanks. |
| 20:39.18 | Xinhuan | also bg9 is pretty lame lately, when everyone on my server goes "have you heard of magictrack?" |
| 20:39.38 | Dw` | I am on your server :P |
| 20:39.44 | Xinhuan | i'm like "yeah, a few arena teams already use a privately written version since april" |
| 20:39.49 | Xinhuan | big deal |
| 20:40.16 | Dw` | But yeah, I never posted it public cause it is not user friendly (or bug free) |
| 20:40.18 | Xinhuan | (so who are you?) |
| 20:40.19 | Matrix110 | i dont find it on files whats MagicTrack |
| 20:40.38 | Dw` | but it works for what I need and don't care to change it |
| 20:40.46 | Dw` | I am dw on horde :P |
| 20:40.58 | bigzero | they allow 2 letter names? |
| 20:40.58 | Gngsk | it's kinda like antagonist |
| 20:41.01 | Xinhuan | well it annoys me when people PMs me how to modify magictrack to do this and do that |
| 20:41.17 | Dw` | exactly why I didn't release it public :D |
| 20:41.27 | Xinhuan | gotten at least 2 such PMs so far |
| 20:41.35 | Matrix110 | so enemy castbars/buff cds etc. ? |
| 20:41.42 | Dw` | no |
| 20:41.54 | Xinhuan | all it does is track important enemy cooldowns - like counterspell |
| 20:41.56 | Dw` | simple tracking of only the most important buffs/spell cd's |
| 20:42.03 | Dw` | or that was the origonal intent. |
| 20:42.11 | Xinhuan | so if you're a healer, you know when you can cast a spell safely without being interrupted |
| 20:42.24 | Matrix110 | so "necb light" |
| 20:42.32 | Xinhuan | something like that, but not quite |
| 20:42.43 | Xinhuan | this is tracking enemy cooldowns, not tracking debuffs on enemies |
| 20:42.45 | Matrix110 | i guess you see the CDs even if you dont target the person etc. |
| 20:42.52 | Matrix110 | necb does that aswell Xinhuan |
| 20:42.59 | Matrix110 | it basically does everything:P |
| 20:43.13 | Dw` | necb IMPORTANT is what I woul call it, and able to track spell lock/imp counterspell. |
| 20:43.26 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 20:43.33 | Dw` | its not designed to intend 50 bars on your screen at a time |
| 20:43.45 | Xinhuan | i don't think i've actually seen you before dw ;d |
| 20:43.53 | Matrix110 | thats what i meant with light |
| 20:44.04 | Xinhuan | i record data of every person on mouseover and "Dw" doesn't exist in my largish database |
| 20:44.21 | bigzero | lol |
| 20:44.31 | Shadowed | Xinhuan i am remember |
| 20:44.36 | Shadowed | working on it right now infact |
| 20:44.37 | Dw` | I live in arena/bt |
| 20:44.43 | elsewhere | I've seen it in some of Affix's BG videos. Nice mod Dw. though i think the raid warnings and such he was in the mod are his own code, correct? |
| 20:44.47 | Xinhuan | i live in Ironforge/BT |
| 20:45.10 | Shadowed | just slow work |
| 20:45.17 | Shadowed | since i first have to get this graphical timer stuff working |
| 20:45.18 | Dw` | raid warining are not intended |
| 20:45.19 | Shadowed | then combat parsing |
| 20:45.23 | Shadowed | THEN make everything work |
| 20:45.24 | Shadowed | wheeee |
| 20:45.48 | Xinhuan | the so-called "leaked secret version" is just a single line of code change from chatframe:AddMessage() to SendAddonMessage(etc, etc, "raid") |
| 20:45.53 | Xinhuan | ;) |
| 20:45.56 | Dw` | if 5 players have raid warnings that would be stupid |
| 20:46.24 | Shadowed | people aren't that smart |
| 20:46.26 | Shadowed | they rather go |
| 20:46.35 | Shadowed | OMG I HAE SPECAL MOD VERSION |
| 20:46.40 | Shadowed | I AM AEEOMe |
| 20:46.41 | Matrix110 | addon communication and only one person announces :P |
| 20:46.54 | Shadowed | yea |
| 20:46.57 | Dw` | The addon announces to yourself in its own frame :D |
| 20:47.06 | Shadowed | thats what i was thinking of matrix |
| 20:47.16 | Matrix110 | like: my name starts with a i announce instead of you starting with a b! |
| 20:47.35 | Dw` | and that way you can configure it to only display what you care about |
| 20:47.36 | Shadowed | pretty much |
| 20:47.49 | Shadowed | but it gets a bit more complicated when trying to track some things |
| 20:47.51 | Thrae | Why are all the good addons not coded. |
| 20:47.53 | Shadowed | like silencing |
| 20:48.17 | Matrix110 | arent all Addons coded Oo? |
| 20:48.26 | Shadowed | all addons have been coded |
| 20:48.28 | Shadowed | 99% of them just suck |
| 20:48.38 | Matrix110 | or do you mean commented? |
| 20:49.07 | Thrae | No, I mean simple ideas aren't implemented. Like multi-tier modularization for unit frames. |
| 20:49.17 | Thrae | All the unit frame mods are goddamn borg addons. |
| 20:49.42 | Industrial | thats because adding a unit doesnt make it much larger |
| 20:49.50 | Industrial | newFrame(unit) and go.. mostly |
| 20:49.53 | Matrix110 | code a good on Thrae :P |
| 20:50.42 | Thrae | Matrix110: I don't want to, but I have to unless I want to use something like ag_UnitFrames |
| 20:50.46 | Industrial | the size is in how far you are going with configurability |
| 20:51.00 | JoshBorke | try ouf |
| 20:51.08 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57773 10/branches/WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Create branch folder |
| 20:51.10 | Matrix110 | I like Pitbull but i hate it aswell but there is nothing decent to replace it atm -.- i loved nurfed ufs in the earlier versions but it got worse:-( |
| 20:51.38 | Dw` | Xinhuan: Do you mind if I pm you real quick? |
| 20:51.38 | Thrae | Is oUF finally usuable? |
| 20:51.39 | JoshBorke | Matrix110: you try out Ace3 ag_UF? |
| 20:51.51 | Xinhuan | sure |
| 20:51.54 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57774 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Create subbranch folder |
| 20:51.55 | Matrix110 | not yet JoshBorke as i would need to install systeminfection svn client :P |
| 20:52.09 | JoshBorke | that's true, you would :-D |
| 20:52.37 | Matrix110 | but based on the fact that all ace3 addons are devved in branches i guess i gotta install a svn client again |
| 20:52.47 | Industrial | for now |
| 20:52.58 | Thrae | haste: Damn your lack of standards for naming SVNs |
| 20:53.04 | JoshBorke | Matrix110: once Ace3 hits beta you should be able to get them from trunk |
| 20:53.09 | Shadowed | UF's are in general, borg addons anyway |
| 20:53.13 | Shadowed | since UF is a pretty large definition |
| 20:53.19 | Industrial | cept oUF \o/ |
| 20:53.36 | Thrae | Shadowed: True, but borgs can be modularized. Then they're not really borgs anymore. |
| 20:53.45 | haste | Thrae: at least I write a desc in the toc now |
| 20:53.48 | Shadowed | By that logic |
| 20:53.53 | Shadowed | PitBull isn't a borg addon, or Prat |
| 20:53.58 | haste | yes, but not by the resource |
| 20:54.09 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57775 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Branch from r57711 (the last WoWEquip revision) for adding talents |
| 20:54.18 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 20:54.25 | Xinhuan | did i add a folde rlayer too deep |
| 20:54.36 | Thrae | Shadowed: I consider an addon a borg addon if it requires all the libs for all the possible module combinations |
| 20:54.50 | Matrix110 | like Pitbull :P |
| 20:54.54 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 20:54.57 | Thrae | Shadowed: Which both PitBull and Prat do ;) |
| 20:55.21 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: looks like it, but I didn't say anything because you did a 'create subbranch' commit and I thought you were waaaay ahead of me |
| 20:56.06 | Matrix110 | hmm lets see if encoding+wow is bad |
| 20:56.14 | Thrae | Shadowed: Well, say I don't need advanced aggro information in a "modularized borg addon" -- in most cases, the aggro lib would be included in the core anyway, just -possibly- deactivated |
| 20:56.30 | Shadowed | thats not really a good excuse |
| 20:56.30 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: hm, no, seems fine |
| 20:56.33 | Xinhuan | no apparently not, http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/WoWEquip/Talents/WoWEquip/WoWEquip.toc exists |
| 20:56.49 | Thrae | Shadowed: So if the aggro lib breaks, you can't use the addon until it's modified to remove the aggro lib |
| 20:56.50 | Shadowed | modules still require extra code to support it, you can't really split everything off into a Module and simple go "Np it's fine, it's a module it doesn't count" |
| 20:57.00 | Shadowed | oh |
| 20:57.01 | Xinhuan | but kind of silly that 3 extra layers of folders is needed to make CIA report correctly ;p |
| 20:57.04 | Shadowed | Aloft would be another example |
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| 20:57.13 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: yeah, weird, and: it doesn't report correctly |
| 20:57.19 | Chosi | evening folks |
| 20:57.19 | Thrae | Shadowed: No no, I'm just saying modules should include their libs, not put all libs in the core |
| 20:57.34 | Shadowed | eh |
| 20:57.37 | Chosi | is there some lightweight ace2 version of mobinfo? i wanna know how many mobs i killed and log the droprates of stuff |
| 20:58.03 | Thrae | haste: Any screenshots of oUF layouts? |
| 20:58.05 | Industrial | Thrae: that would make them addons? |
| 20:58.07 | Gnarfoz | mobinfo2 + lightweight = oxymoron |
| 20:58.25 | Industrial | mobinfo3 |
| 20:58.27 | Industrial | on svn |
| 20:58.28 | Industrial | gogo |
| 20:58.32 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 20:58.32 | haste | Thrae: there's none atm, since I'm not done with it :( |
| 20:58.44 | haste | Thrae: most of the people who use oUF run earlier revisions |
| 20:58.45 | Shadowed | you never complete an addon |
| 20:58.48 | Shadowed | you just work on 50 of them |
| 20:59.13 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:59.20 | Matrix110 | ugh TortioseSVN wants to restart lets see if it works without |
| 20:59.49 | Thrae | Industrial: Well, I'm talking a multiple-tiered approach to modularization -- put the big modules and/or modules that require big libs in the "big tier", while the core remains tiny and the least libs possible |
| 20:59.56 | haste | Shadowed: yes I do :( |
| 21:00.00 | Shadowed | lis |
| 21:00.01 | Shadowed | lies |
| 21:01.16 | Industrial | Thrae: its all mojo to me. I have 6 addons with only an eveny handler and a timer handler |
| 21:01.39 | Thrae | Industrial: I think the most important thing concerning libs and modules is to reduce the risk of something breaking the entire addon -- if 1 addon with 20 modules needs to turn into 1 addon + 1 LoD addon with 10 modules each, that's better for the user, even if they don't understand why |
| 21:01.42 | Chosi | there's no mobinfo3 on svn :( |
| 21:01.51 | Chosi | lies! |
| 21:02.10 | Thrae | Chosi: Look in branches |
| 21:02.29 | Chosi | not there. |
| 21:02.40 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 21:02.48 | Thrae | Industrial: Well, TinyTip doesn't even use a framework. You also code tiny addons, I'm talking big addons. |
| 21:03.21 | haste | you can write big add-ons without a framework pretty easily |
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| 21:03.29 | Shadowed | i'd hope so |
| 21:03.38 | bigzero | including AceConfig is supposed to include AceConfigCmd, AceConfigDialog, AceConfigRegistry, and AceConfigDropdown, right? |
| 21:03.41 | Thrae | OK, I should have said libraries, not framework |
| 21:03.48 | haste | :D |
| 21:03.56 | Pkekyo| | where to level at 53 (not un'goro) |
| 21:03.59 | haste | only Ace3 part I would ever think about using is AceDB |
| 21:04.05 | Gngsk | Pkekyo|, WP |
| 21:04.05 | haste | the rest is pretty much straight forward |
| 21:04.20 | Pkekyo| | Gngsk: allready cleared out the quests there :< |
| 21:04.24 | haste | oh, and maybe AceConsole |
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| 21:04.32 | Gngsk | Pkekyo|, alliance or horde? |
| 21:04.33 | haste | but I'm not really a fan of the table of doom anymore =\ |
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| 21:04.41 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: Download TourGuide from http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/, it's an in-game leveling guide |
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| 21:04.48 | Pkekyo| | Gngsk: horde |
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| 21:05.10 | Gngsk | uhm, I've only leveld one horde past 40 :\ |
| 21:05.12 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: For help with the quests themselves, download LightHeaded + TomTom from http://www.wowinterface.com. Both of them help TREMENDOUSLY in leveling and questing. |
| 21:05.27 | bigzero | Pkekyo|: Felwood, winterspring? |
| 21:05.30 | elsewhere | need more horde guides for TourGuide. lol feel liek a second class citizen looking at the completion graph |
| 21:06.01 | Pkekyo| | cleared out felwood, winterspring is still too high |
| 21:06.06 | bigzero | Pkekyo|: burining steppes? |
| 21:06.10 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: thanks, but I just wanna know where to go, not what to do |
| 21:06.16 | Chosi | alright so there's no mobinfo alternative? |
| 21:06.17 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: haven't been there yet, thanks! |
| 21:06.24 | Chosi | not even some up to date mobinfo |
| 21:06.24 | Pkekyo| | for future reference: blasted land blows |
| 21:06.37 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: TourGuide tells you which place is more effecient based on what quests you've already completed |
| 21:06.38 | bigzero | Pkekyo|: I've always skipped burning steppes |
| 21:07.43 | Pkekyo| | I refuse to go un'goro...that huge fucking dinosaur snook up on me for the last time ages ago |
| 21:07.46 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: LightHeaded is the one that tells you how to complete quests -- TourGuide just tells you what quests there are, and what you've completed in an area, and what the average level of mobs are, etc. |
| 21:08.06 | Thrae | Try it before you knock it |
| 21:08.08 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, lol...un'goro is so good for lvling though |
| 21:08.30 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, though it's more of a lvl 50 thing, lvl 53 is a little past it imo |
| 21:08.53 | Gngsk | there's a good chunk of 53-55 content in un'goro |
| 21:09.01 | Industrial | just go in a bit later |
| 21:09.08 | Industrial | eg 53 |
| 21:09.14 | Industrial | and do all the green quests and yellow in 1 go |
| 21:09.23 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: granted, it's good for leveling, but like I said, that dino scared the shit outta me for the last time |
| 21:09.25 | Gngsk | silithus has some stuff for that level too |
| 21:09.39 | Gngsk | so it makes sense to head that way at least once, like industrial suggests |
| 21:09.45 | bigzero | Gngsk, silithus is too high a 53 |
| 21:10.03 | Gngsk | not really |
| 21:10.29 | bigzero | i think most quests require 55 or 56 to accept...but I might be wrong |
| 21:10.30 | Gngsk | there's the undead area and the quests to kill the bugs for venom |
| 21:11.09 | Pkekyo| | I couldn't think of anywhere to go, so I've been tossing about in blasted lands doing that lvl 57 quest chain >.< |
| 21:11.43 | bigzero | Gngsk, yeah, first quests in silithus start at lvl 54 |
| 21:11.52 | Gngsk | yah, just checked, my fault |
| 21:12.23 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, you can always grind rep with timbermaw :-) |
| 21:12.27 | Pkekyo| | 4 int and 12 spir vs 9 spelldmg for a mage? |
| 21:12.35 | bigzero | sd |
| 21:13.21 | bigzero | though i never understood why people spend so much time deciding about gear while they're lvling...it gets replaced in 2 lvls. If you're unsure do /roll 1-2 |
| 21:13.36 | Pkekyo| | so what amount if int/spir should I sacrifice for spelldmg then? |
| 21:13.39 | Thrae | bigzero: I find it a hell of a lot of fun |
| 21:13.49 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: I'm still running around in my SM gear :p |
| 21:13.56 | Pkekyo| | just thought I'd have found some replacements by now |
| 21:14.02 | Thrae | Deciding on which gear at which level is fun |
| 21:14.10 | bigzero | well, depends on what sd and int you have atm |
| 21:14.13 | bigzero | spirit is useless |
| 21:14.14 | Thrae | Usually I go with quest gear, I don't run for that rare BoP |
| 21:14.35 | bigzero | spirit is only _maybe_ useful in long fights which you never do when lvling |
| 21:15.15 | Thrae | haste: So, what's the idea of oUF? People code their own layouts, basically? |
| 21:15.26 | haste | yeh |
| 21:15.33 | haste | and oUF does the event handling and friends |
| 21:15.34 | bigzero | and considering that you do not stay in combat that long, and you're a mage, so you can drink whenever you please, I'd say sd is almost always better than int |
| 21:15.43 | Thrae | haste: "friends"? |
| 21:15.56 | Pkekyo| | <--- 247 int, 91 sdmg |
| 21:16.12 | haste | Thrae: Remember AceUnitFrames :) ? |
| 21:16.29 | Thrae | haste: Yeah, I wish that took off |
| 21:16.30 | Xinhuan | please say you picked the 9 spell damage |
| 21:16.38 | haste | Thrae: I want to resurrect it |
| 21:16.39 | bigzero | just stack spell dmg...like if it's 3sd and 10 int...idk..I might go with int |
| 21:16.54 | haste | Thrae: but WoW add-ons aren't the only thing I work on, so things go rather slwo |
| 21:17.04 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: allready had the 9sdmg |
| 21:17.23 | Xinhuan | 4 int 10 spi isn't going to make up 9sdmg in any way or manner |
| 21:17.50 | Pkekyo| | ok |
| 21:17.56 | Pkekyo| | off to the store...laters |
| 21:18.09 | Thrae | haste: Yeah, I know what you mean. For unit frames, I was thinking of starting out with my idea called "Whack-A-Mole" and going up from there. But I might just use PerfectRaid -- it's already got the minimalistic code I want. |
| 21:18.16 | bigzero | I thought they really improved the gear from 20-60... |
| 21:18.29 | Pkekyo| | nah |
| 21:18.37 | Pkekyo| | I still have the gear I got at 30-35 |
| 21:19.13 | bigzero | well, once you hit outlands in 5 lvls it will all change |
| 21:19.27 | Pkekyo| | aye :) |
| 21:20.10 | Thrae | haste: I wanted something very simple for decursing and buffing, which currently nothing provides except huge addons with a ton of options. My logic is, once you have the SecureUnitButtonTemplate down framework down, then it's not hard to modularize from there. |
| 21:20.48 | haste | Thrae: I would just abuse PRaid + Clique tbh :p |
| 21:20.51 | Thrae | Secure frames are a pain, and properly anchoring crap is a pain, the rest isn't that difficult |
| 21:21.40 | haste | secure frames are the main cockblock |
| 21:21.57 | Thrae | haste: Now that PR has party frames, I'll probably do that, but I still need Target, ToT, and Party Pet frames... |
| 21:22.29 | haste | current oUF would be able to provide you with that, but the aura code still needs some work |
| 21:22.35 | haste | and I need to write a minimal taglib |
| 21:23.00 | Thrae | haste: Steal PR's code |
| 21:23.23 | haste | PR has tagging :o ? |
| 21:24.10 | Thrae | haste: Then again, I was just about to say -- You should know the feeling that sometimes it feels easier starting from scratch then starting from someone else's code |
| 21:25.13 | Thrae | haste: Honestly, I don't believe in tagging. I mean, minimal, and I mean -minimal- tagging might be OK. |
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| 21:25.53 | Thrae | Allowing too much customization in the core can bloat things horribly *coughdogtagcough* |
| 21:26.25 | haste | Thrae: oUF won't include the taglib, and I'm thinking as the good old watchdog tags |
| 21:26.45 | haste | Thrae: I only want it as an option for the layouts |
| 21:26.56 | Thrae | Yeah, that'd be OK probably |
| 21:27.59 | ckknight | I like DogTag, and overall, it's only really bloated as far as functionality, which doesn't affect speed or memory use very much at all |
| 21:28.08 | ckknight | due to the way it's set up |
| 21:28.49 | Thrae | ckknight: That's the bloat which concerns me. To me, too much functionality, speed, and memory are my concerns in order of most to least. |
| 21:28.58 | CIA-8 | 03evenue * r57776 10TradeskillInfo/ (TitanTSI.lua TitanTSI.xml): |
| 21:28.58 | CIA-8 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 21:28.58 | CIA-8 | - Remove annoying Titan error |
| 21:29.14 | ckknight | okay, and as I said, the speed and memory doesn't change if you don't use said functionality |
| 21:29.34 | Amadeo | I've always thought that lots of functionality was great as long as things have sane defaults |
| 21:29.36 | Thrae | ckknight: The more functionality you add, the more risk of something breaking the entire shibang. If the functionality is broken up into optional and/or LoD, then you're much safer. |
| 21:29.48 | ckknight | okay, I'm done arguing |
| 21:29.50 | Thrae | Amadeo: Not with concurrent development |
| 21:29.58 | ckknight | you refuse to be convinced anyway |
| 21:30.04 | ckknight | so there's no point |
| 21:30.10 | ckknight | thus, I slink back to the shadows |
| 21:30.29 | haste | gl |
| 21:30.48 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 21:31.01 | Matrix110 | why cant i rightlick frames in aguf(ace3 version) iam confused |
| 21:31.08 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 21:31.14 | Matrix110 | reloading ui helped |
| 21:31.31 | Thrae | ckknight: I don't trust anyone's code, especially my own -- even added safeguards can break themselves. Code not loaded can't taint the addons that uses said code. |
| 21:32.08 | Thrae | Taint in a way not necessarily refering to secure frames |
| 21:32.09 | ckknight | I already said I was done arguing, I don't know why you keep pushing it |
| 21:32.42 | Thrae | ckknight: I'm not arguing with you, I'm clarifying my position or intention was not to insult you or your code. |
| 21:34.52 | Matrix110 | the ace3 branch of aguf is really nice although the config misses some options for me |
| 21:38.54 | CIA-8 | 03zuno * r57777 10UnitActionBars2/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:38.54 | CIA-8 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 21:38.54 | CIA-8 | - Fix for frame group layouts not being used. |
| 21:38.54 | CIA-8 | - Support for StellarUF. |
| 21:39.06 | Fisker- | i came Funkeh` |
| 21:39.41 | Funkeh` | ?? |
| 21:40.20 | Fisker- | the ark of truth :P |
| 21:41.01 | Funkeh` | k |
| 21:42.55 | harldephin | uhm.. is there a sound-related equivalent to /console gxrestart ? |
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| 21:44.32 | Dw` | Looking for someone to take over MagickTrack / ProxDim http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10641.0 |
| 21:46.44 | harldephin | i'm randomly having some sounds getting "stuck" at a fixed place, being repeating over and over again. especially hunter sounds (but that may be just a coincidence). so being able to restart the sound system might be of help there. maybe. |
| 21:47.03 | harldephin | *repeated |
| 21:47.03 | Keias | Side effect of being a hunter imo |
| 21:47.23 | harldephin | but not as a hunter myself |
| 21:48.14 | harldephin | those sounds mostly come from other characters that stood at that same place some time before |
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| 21:53.58 | Pkekyo| | ~seen ckknight |
| 21:54.00 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 51m 49s) #wowace (1h 51m 49s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 21m 51s, last said: 'I already said I was done arguing, I don't know why you keep pushing it'. |
| 21:54.08 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: ping? |
| 21:54.14 | ckknight | pong |
| 21:54.19 | ckknight | see, that's what you should try first |
| 21:54.28 | ckknight | don't unnecessarily abuse purl |
| 21:54.57 | Pkekyo| | but I like to abuse purl :< |
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| 21:55.38 | Pkekyo| | anyways, got a problem with cowtip...for some reason, one of the strings (text lines or whatever they're called) won't 'initialize' until I've opened the edit window and closed it again |
| 21:55.48 | Pkekyo| | any idea what it is? (not throwing errors btw) |
| 21:56.11 | harldephin | bah.. |
| 21:56.16 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 21:56.23 | harldephin | :| |
| 21:56.39 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 21:57.17 | bigzero | Xinhuan, ping |
| 21:57.56 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 21:58.34 | bigzero | got an idea for postal...feature to open all mail but not take any of the items...kinda like mark as read |
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| 21:58.49 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 21:58.53 | bigzero | this way you know when you get new mail, but can keep all the stuff in mailbox |
| 21:59.04 | Xinhuan | that's certainly an idea |
| 21:59.25 | bigzero | :) glad you like it...shouldn't be hard to implemet at all |
| 21:59.34 | Xinhuan | without reseaching into it, i don't exactly know how to flag a mail as read |
| 21:59.52 | bigzero | hmm...i'll look into it if you don't have time |
| 22:02.14 | Xinhuan | you should, i'm trying to add talents stuff into wowequip ;p |
| 22:04.21 | Dw` | ckknight: cowtip does not properly use the fade options on certain objects (fires in org) and your bug tracker link isdown nor do I see it posted anywhere(although i would be surprised if you didn't know) How should I go about submitting a fix? |
| 22:06.00 | Xinhuan | particular fires? or all fires |
| 22:06.26 | buu | While we're talking about postal |
| 22:06.33 | buu | Please god someone add a 'forward' button that works with items. |
| 22:06.34 | Stanzilla | Dw`: http://jira.wowace.com/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10020 |
| 22:06.35 | Dw` | most all fires, i think player corpse too, lots of non player objects. |
| 22:06.43 | Xinhuan | buu, too tricky |
| 22:06.51 | buu | Really?! |
| 22:07.05 | Xinhuan | first you have to take out all the items in the mail could be 0 items, 12 items or anywhere in between |
| 22:07.13 | Xinhuan | secondly, you have to track where they go in your inventory |
| 22:07.13 | bigzero | Xinhuan, GetInboxText(index) marks it as read |
| 22:07.31 | bigzero | Xinhuan, might be other functions that do it, but that one should be sufficient for the addon |
| 22:07.32 | Xinhuan | they could go to any bag, any slot, and possibly stack with an existing stack of items |
| 22:07.52 | Xinhuan | 3rd, you may possibly have to unstack some of there items to properly forward them |
| 22:08.09 | Xinhuan | then put all of these without error back into the sendmail frame and send it |
| 22:08.37 | buu | I don't want to hear excuses! |
| 22:08.46 | bigzero | Xinhuan, you know, you could make Postal work like GMail, so you can do certain functions on read, unread, all, expiring mail...would be kinda interesting |
| 22:09.06 | Xinhuan | now think about it, if any step in the process fails (such as inv full) or error retrieving mail, it also has to stop |
| 22:09.18 | Xinhuan | maybe bigzero |
| 22:09.52 | Xinhuan | what did gmail offer? |
| 22:09.55 | Xinhuan | never used that |
| 22:10.01 | bigzero | I meant the actual GMail |
| 22:10.15 | bigzero | or any email service for that matter |
| 22:10.18 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 22:10.32 | Xinhuan | well there isn't much you can do |
| 22:10.44 | bigzero | mark as read, forward, open |
| 22:10.44 | Xinhuan | with wow mail, you can only either delete it, or take all the items in it |
| 22:11.01 | Xinhuan | forward isn't something that's going to happen heh |
| 22:11.13 | bigzero | why not? |
| 22:11.21 | Xinhuan | i explained in the last 10 lines |
| 22:11.26 | Xinhuan | to buu |
| 22:12.03 | bigzero | i read it...don't see something impossible |
| 22:12.04 | Xinhuan | each step in the process has to wait for a server response as well |
| 22:12.18 | Xinhuan | its not impossible, but its something that would probably take a month to write |
| 22:12.27 | bigzero | hmmm...maybe |
| 22:12.34 | ckknight | Dw`: if you can figure out how to fix it, that'd be great |
| 22:13.01 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: no idea |
| 22:13.12 | vithos | harldephin: the volley sound, by chance? |
| 22:13.27 | bigzero | well, i'll look into it after I'm done with some of the stuff with my addons |
| 22:13.31 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 22:13.37 | Xinhuan | dw', you have a fix for that cowtip bug? |
| 22:14.22 | harldephin | vithos: yes, that and one or two other sounds. |
| 22:15.09 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: gonna see if I can make it throw any errors and get back to you then |
| 22:15.18 | ckknight | :-) |
| 22:16.33 | bigzero | AceConfigDialog and AceConfigDropdown what's their equivalent in Ace2 world? |
| 22:17.18 | ckknight | Dewdrop? |
| 22:17.34 | bigzero | for aceconfigdropdown? |
| 22:17.42 | bigzero | and waterfall for dialog? |
| 22:18.33 | ckknight | I suppose so |
| 22:21.21 | Pkekyo| | meh, I miss the days when dewdrop reigned supreme :< |
| 22:22.34 | Xinhuan | it still does ~_~ |
| 22:22.40 | bigzero | still does I suppose...AceConfigDropdown DNE |
| 22:22.50 | Xinhuan | its perfect for the small addons that only need configs for 2-5 options |
| 22:22.51 | bigzero | yet, i hope |
| 22:23.17 | buu | I just can't use anything that isn't rock config now. |
| 22:23.19 | buu | It's tragic. |
| 22:23.30 | bigzero | i don't like rock config tbh |
| 22:23.36 | buu | It's awesome. |
| 22:23.40 | buu | In ways I have no words for. |
| 22:23.42 | Xinhuan | AceConfigDropdown doesn't actually have any files in it btw |
| 22:23.46 | buu | Every other config system is so terrible compared to it =[ |
| 22:23.56 | bigzero | Xinhuan, so i found out :-( |
| 22:24.13 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-107 |
| 22:24.17 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: noe it doesn't...bloody waterfall |
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| 22:25.02 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 22:25.11 | Xinhuan | i don't use Jira since i can just bitch in here :D |
| 22:25.22 | Stanzilla | jira is cool |
| 22:25.36 | Xinhuan | some day, i'll make an account |
| 22:26.50 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: http://jira.wowace.com/secure/Signup!default.jspa do it :P |
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| 22:27.07 | Pkekyo| | ~jira |
| 22:27.08 | purl | from memory, jira is jira.wowace.com |
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| 22:27.13 | Pkekyo| | what's jira? |
| 22:27.21 | lp22 | hello, I was wondering if someone had a second to possibly help me out with a macro found in Caiths UI Package. It is regarding "OmenAnchor:IsVisible" and trying to get this to work with Recount. |
| 22:27.22 | Dw` | xinhuan: i know that my friend fixed the fading using ct_core, I just recreated doing that. now im trying to make a small standalone to do it. |
| 22:27.26 | Olison | bugtracking |
| 22:27.41 | Pkekyo| | lp22: no! |
| 22:27.43 | Pkekyo| | NO |
| 22:27.47 | Xinhuan | err |
| 22:27.51 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: the wowace bugtracking system |
| 22:28.01 | Pkekyo| | thanks Stanzilla |
| 22:28.04 | Xinhuan | if you have the fix that can be directly applied to cowtip's code, just send it to one of us |
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| 22:28.14 | Xinhuan | don't mess with writing an extra addon |
| 22:28.59 | Pkekyo| | lp22: from my experience, it's easier to just sod about with the addon code, rather than making complicated macros |
| 22:29.02 | Xinhuan | i.e just say what lines to change, how, what, etc |
| 22:31.28 | bigzero | anyone on us servers? |
| 22:32.11 | Xinhuan | me |
| 22:32.53 | bigzero | what server? i need someone to help me out with debugging an addon and noone on my server would whisper me with what I ask.. |
| 22:33.01 | Xinhuan | Blackrock |
| 22:33.33 | bigzero | horde or allience? |
| 22:33.38 | Xinhuan | alliance |
| 22:33.44 | Xinhuan | i sit in ironforge all day if that helps |
| 22:36.39 | Xinhuan | why can't you just whisper yourself btw |
| 22:36.41 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:36.57 | bigzero | wtf....it works ok on this character...and I think all the addons are the same |
| 22:37.14 | Xinhuan | o_O /boggles |
| 22:37.33 | bigzero | well, it's kinda confusing, since I'm trying to block the whispers from the addon, so I'm not sure what part is failing |
| 22:37.58 | Xinhuan | probably a hook chain somewhere? |
| 22:38.17 | bigzero | yeah, i was getting 2 replies I think instead of just one |
| 22:38.44 | Pkekyo| | anyone able to access http://nettby.no ? |
| 22:38.53 | Xinhuan | p.s. if you output your whispers to 2 chatframes, then you will obviously get 2 chatframe events with the same text in it |
| 22:38.57 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: me, blank page tho |
| 22:38.58 | bigzero | Xinhuan, what profs are you? |
| 22:39.08 | Pkekyo| | Industrial: thanks for confirming |
| 22:39.11 | Industrial | np |
| 22:39.21 | Pkekyo| | they've got morons for web developers |
| 22:39.24 | bigzero | Xinhuan, omg....that's it...I have a whisper chat fram set up |
| 22:39.24 | Xinhuan | this was an issue i discovered when i tested playing Puzzle Fighter vs myself ;p |
| 22:39.25 | Industrial | :p |
| 22:39.37 | Xinhuan | im JC/Enchanting |
| 22:39.51 | Pkekyo| | prolly some adverticement banner killed their entire site again |
| 22:40.11 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i'm desice on your server btw |
| 22:40.19 | Xinhuan | bah |
| 22:40.24 | Xinhuan | i thought you were some random |
| 22:40.31 | Xinhuan | i get millions of identical tells a day |
| 22:42.06 | bigzero | yeah, lol...i know what you mean, I'm ench/alch myself |
| 22:43.09 | bigzero | but yeah, the addon works, I just need to figure out how to avoid it giving multiple replies now...need to hook higher up |
| 22:43.50 | Xinhuan | what are you trying to do |
| 22:44.10 | bigzero | you know GlowFoSho? |
| 22:44.18 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:44.31 | Xinhuan | i don't use it |
| 22:44.35 | Xinhuan | but i know what it does |
| 22:44.52 | bigzero | adding an over-chat feature to it.. whisper !glow enchant weapon and it will whiper you back with that weapon enchanted |
| 22:45.22 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 22:45.53 | Xinhuan | so it only accepts an enchantlink? |
| 22:45.59 | bigzero | yeah, atm |
| 22:46.43 | Xinhuan | excellent |
| 22:46.49 | Xinhuan | i got 1 reply |
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| 22:47.30 | Xinhuan | i assume you have a database of every enchant --> enchantID? |
| 22:48.41 | Pkekyo| | christ....my brother just PHONED me to ask what expertise rating is...fucksake |
| 22:48.41 | Pkekyo| | how hard can it be to ask someone ingame, or even pop wowwiki? |
| 22:48.58 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, ... |
| 22:49.03 | Lukian | or use the character pane.. |
| 22:49.19 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: indeed |
| 22:49.38 | Pkekyo| | christ, he's calling again >.< (I hung up on him) |
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| 22:51.01 | Pkekyo| | and I don't know what expertise rating does, to boot :p |
| 22:51.07 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r93336e2cc4 10./ (3 files in 3 dirs): Removing |LV| tag |
| 22:51.08 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * re641388889 10./StatusFrame.lua: Loot-optional accept objective fix |
| 22:52.12 | Pkekyo| | do I really need to update WAU? |
| 22:52.22 | Pkekyo| | does it bring anything useful to the party? |
| 22:57.09 | Pkekyo| | also: why would I have multiple instances of the same libs? |
| 22:57.25 | Fin | woohoo! nearly there |
| 22:57.33 | Fin | "Netherweave Cloth: 3511/3600 (needed: 89- 5 stacks)" |
| 22:57.59 | Fisker- | for what_ |
| 22:57.59 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 22:58.01 | Fisker- | ? |
| 22:58.03 | Fisker- | faggotry? |
| 22:58.04 | Pkekyo| | what you farming for Fin? |
| 22:58.08 | Pkekyo| | bwahah |
| 22:58.56 | Zhinjio | probably 20 slot bags |
| 22:59.08 | Pkekyo| | 3.6k netherweave for 20slotters? |
| 22:59.29 | Pkekyo| | also, geif 20slotters...both bank and bags are stacked with 18slotters and I've run out of space |
| 22:59.48 | Lukian | Sweet! |
| 22:59.52 | Lukian | I'm a troll paladin |
| 23:00.34 | Pkekyo| | ? |
| 23:00.41 | Fisker- | you don't need netherweave cloth for 20 slotters? |
| 23:00.55 | Chompers | Fisker-! |
| 23:01.00 | Chompers | slashhug |
| 23:01.02 | Fisker- | atleast only for the imbued netherweave but i don't quite think you ned 180 stacks of netherweave cloth for that |
| 23:01.06 | Fisker- | slashspit |
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| 23:01.20 | Chompers | slashraep |
| 23:01.25 | durcyn | 20 slot bags are just mooncloth |
| 23:01.28 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 23:01.36 | Fisker- | but you need imbued netherweave for the mooncloth |
| 23:01.46 | durcyn | netherweave is the easy part |
| 23:01.51 | Vulcanus | Maybe he's supplying an entire guild with bandages |
| 23:01.58 | Lukian | http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot123107202054vp0.jpg |
| 23:02.56 | Fisker- | no care :( |
| 23:03.10 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rf62c369175 10./StatusFrame.lua: |
| 23:03.10 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Add |PRE| tag for A obj. |
| 23:03.10 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Accepts a quest name, when used with the |O| tag the A obj will only show up if the quest has been completed IN THE CURRENT GUIDE |
| 23:03.10 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Intended for follow-ups to optional quests |
| 23:03.13 | Pkekyo| | LukianI'm a troll paladin <---- moldechange much? |
| 23:03.13 | Fisker- | also |
| 23:03.14 | Fisker- | ALSO |
| 23:03.15 | Fisker- | Lukian |
| 23:03.17 | Fisker- | YOU SUCK |
| 23:03.18 | Xinhuan | whats the mats for one 20slotter? |
| 23:03.22 | Xinhuan | why does it take 3600 cloth |
| 23:03.49 | durcyn | 8 primal mooncloth, 4 netherweb silk |
| 23:04.02 | Lukian | oh lol wrong screenshot |
| 23:04.25 | Fisker- | at most it's 80 stacks of netherweave |
| 23:04.31 | Fisker- | but probably only 40 if you don't suck |
| 23:04.37 | Lukian | http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010208100132no6.jpg |
| 23:04.58 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rc7f3770a13 10./TourGuide.lua: Change how DumpLoc reports back points |
| 23:04.59 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rdfb0fff53d 10./TourGuide_Alliance/64_65_Terokkar_Aldor.lua: Terokkar tweakkars |
| 23:05.35 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: troll warrior with gay gear? |
| 23:05.36 | Fisker- | why do you suck so Lukian ? |
| 23:05.46 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, no, troll paladin |
| 23:05.52 | Lukian | and yes of course the gear is gay |
| 23:05.59 | Lukian | it's quest reward greens and blues |
| 23:06.54 | Chompers | Lukian: nice clown suit |
| 23:07.01 | Lukian | Chompers, ty :D |
| 23:07.16 | Lukian | It was courtesy of Gnomish Engineering |
| 23:07.29 | bigzero | Xinhuan, yes, I have formulaID -> enchantID table along with lvl requirements and whether or not they have a glow |
| 23:07.43 | Xinhuan | is your table complete? |
| 23:08.16 | Xinhuan | and verifable that the actual enchant casted does cause that enchantID (and not just any enchantID that matches the correct text) |
| 23:08.26 | bigzero | it's only for weapons |
| 23:08.45 | Xinhuan | how did you get the enchantIDs? |
| 23:08.57 | bigzero | the data is gathered by a script directly from wowhead |
| 23:09.20 | Xinhuan | how accurate would the enchantID be then? |
| 23:09.33 | Xinhuan | for example multiple enchantIDs may have the exact text "+9 Intellect" |
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| 23:09.56 | bigzero | those are actually the same enchants |
| 23:10.12 | bigzero | well they have the same number on the weapon |
| 23:10.23 | Chompers | i did a query to see what version of threat-1.0 people are using, i got a weird result |
| 23:10.28 | Xinhuan | well you see, i have a few missing enchantIDs |
| 23:10.39 | Chompers | most were fine, they looked like this: [)?-sPONGs°Threat-1.0sThreat-1.0-57432][WHISPER][Ninah] |
| 23:10.46 | Xinhuan | and i noted that the same enchant could have a different enchantID depending on what it was casted on |
| 23:10.57 | Chompers | then i got: [)?-sPONGs°Threat-1.0b][WHISPER][Kralj] |
| 23:11.05 | Chompers | its only half of it :/ |
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| 23:11.37 | Xinhuan | in particular, the case was with 6mp5 chest enchant, the enchantID for it being casted on plate isn't the same one for it casted on non-plate chest gear |
| 23:12.07 | bigzero | Xinhuan, hmmm |
| 23:12.14 | potemkin | whats the fastest way to round a number with like 20 decimals to 1 decimal |
| 23:12.27 | Xinhuan | i noted also that some enchantIDs are reused |
| 23:12.34 | exor|zzz | reused? |
| 23:12.56 | Xinhuan | for eg, the +7 agi boots enchantID, i think is the same one as when applied on a weapon |
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| 23:13.04 | Xinhuan | but different when applied to a 2H weapon |
| 23:13.07 | Xinhuan | (i think) |
| 23:13.19 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i should look into that.. but the way the script does it is it goes through all the enchant weapon spells in wowhead and looks at ther effect. FormulaID is the number in the url. EnchantID is the number under the effect field |
| 23:13.21 | bigzero | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=13529 |
| 23:14.05 | Chompers | [)?-sPONGsBigWigsb][WHISPER][Kralj] |
| 23:14.10 | bigzero | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=13693 |
| 23:14.11 | Chompers | same thing, different addon :S |
| 23:14.16 | bigzero | those two are the same for instance |
| 23:15.10 | Xinhuan | ah, so you merely just harvested wowhead for the spell->effectID which is the enchantID? |
| 23:15.50 | bigzero | yeah |
| 23:16.23 | Xinhuan | seems reasonable, i'm going to spam you to see if some of these IDs match |
| 23:16.31 | Xinhuan | hey you logged |
| 23:16.51 | Xinhuan | get back on :D |
| 23:17.10 | bigzero | afk'ed |
| 23:17.12 | Xinhuan | i'm next to you btw ;d |
| 23:17.13 | bigzero | was eating |
| 23:17.21 | Xinhuan | want a port? :D |
| 23:17.33 | bigzero | ugh...gnomes... |
| 23:17.35 | bigzero | no me gusta |
| 23:17.40 | bigzero | :P |
| 23:17.42 | Matrix110 | hmm is: if a==x and b==y or c==z working like a and (b or c) or (a and b) or c |
| 23:18.29 | bigzero | don't you find quarmiran's eye a little annoying...I use it on bigzero, but I think i'll replace it next chance I get |
| 23:18.44 | bigzero | I really hate when I sheep right after pull and the buff procs |
| 23:18.50 | bigzero | then the mobs come running after me |
| 23:19.11 | Matrix110 | Quagmirrans eye is a a really really good trinket you need long to replace it :P |
| 23:19.52 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 23:19.58 | bigzero | I know...I like it, but the buff pulling mobs really pisses me off |
| 23:20.00 | Xinhuan | i am replacing it with the darkmoon care when it comes |
| 23:20.02 | Xinhuan | in 6 days |
| 23:20.05 | Xinhuan | card* |
| 23:20.08 | Matrix110 | buff pulling mobs OO? |
| 23:20.10 | bigzero | that one's nice |
| 23:20.26 | Xinhuan | meanwhile, i have the BT exalted trinket in my bank - totally useless and in my bank, quagmirran > that |
| 23:20.36 | bigzero | I was thinking of getting it, but I don't raid much anymore, so it's not worth the investment |
| 23:20.58 | Matrix110 | Xinhuan actually thats not true depending on the amount of crit you got and the fight its really good |
| 23:21.22 | Xinhuan | i'm a mage |
| 23:21.26 | Xinhuan | you seen the mage trinket? |
| 23:21.27 | Matrix110 | iam a mage aswell |
| 23:21.32 | Xinhuan | the proc rate is worse |
| 23:21.43 | Xinhuan | i've almost 400 crit rating if i wear the appropriate gear |
| 23:21.47 | Xinhuan | it sucks |
| 23:21.53 | Matrix110 | not really:P |
| 23:22.08 | Matrix110 | but it really depends on the fight |
| 23:22.15 | Matrix110 | in many fights its really not that good |
| 23:22.45 | Matrix110 | but if you just cluelessy spam its better than other trinket |
| 23:23.50 | Matrix110 | and nothing can beat heroism + skull of guldan + bt exalted trinket its like constantly up there with 1,508 frostbolts<3 |
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| 23:43.53 | mort | is there an addon to correct the estimated honor? |
| 23:44.16 | Gnarfoz | HonorFu comes to mind, it's what I use |
| 23:44.42 | Gnarfoz | might be a bit over the top, though, if you're not using Fubar |
| 23:45.07 | dylanm | Shadowed's Honest may do the trick. |
| 23:45.48 | Fisker- | hay guise |
| 23:45.56 | mort | i'll have a look at it, i would prefer that the correct amount is displayed in the pvptab ;) |
| 23:47.25 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: It's you. |
| 23:55.55 | Pkekyo| | rofl, my GM just emptied gbank and AHed everything to get gold to level his professions |
| 23:56.21 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, ouch! :D |
| 23:56.39 | Pkekyo| | was four fucking tabs of stuff |
| 23:57.03 | Lukian | gquit imo? :D |
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| 23:57.22 | Pkekyo| | I'm too busy laughing my fucking arse off |
| 23:57.28 | Pkekyo| | cheeky fucking bastard |
| 23:58.31 | Killmore | it is possible with cowtip to see how many resilience your "mouse over" target have ? like for the build ? |
| 23:59.04 | Pkekyo| | not likely |
