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| 00:04.04 | Aeyan | Oh shit, bear cavalry. |
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| 00:05.24 | Fisker- | lol |
| 00:05.24 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 00:05.27 | Fisker- | you gotta be kidding me |
| 00:05.32 | Fisker- | ads for guild recruitment? :D |
| 00:06.25 | thul | http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7683/119846699066vm6.jpg |
| 00:07.28 | Kemayo | (NSFW) |
| 00:07.34 | thul | yes |
| 00:07.36 | thul | not at all |
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| 00:07.43 | thul | sorry about that, forgot that:P |
| 00:08.37 | durcyn | the one on the right, obviously. |
| 00:08.41 | Kemayo | Duh. |
| 00:10.40 | Brunera | i would deffo say b |
| 00:11.00 | Brunera | atleast "she" is good looking |
| 00:11.13 | FtH|Daemona | haha 18% 8man |
| 00:12.06 | thul | does it still make sense to use two different wf-enchants? |
| 00:12.27 | Brunera | dont think so |
| 00:12.29 | NeoTron | thul: no |
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| 00:13.49 | Xinhuan | whoa alar uses coroutines? |
| 00:13.56 | Xinhuan | [1/4 07:36:14] <CIA-8> AlarLib |
| 00:13.56 | Xinhuan | [1/4 07:36:14] <CIA-8> Coroutine management improved |
| 00:14.17 | JoshBorke | me |
| 00:15.49 | thul | gk |
| 00:18.28 | deadlock | Is there a way to disable the chatfram from fading and the tabs disapearing im using prat. |
| 00:18.55 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:19.37 | deadlock | Arrowmaster: I'm not seeing it i tried fading in prat options but that didnt work. |
| 00:19.44 | Arrowmaster | does too |
| 00:19.55 | bigzero | doesn't work for me either |
| 00:20.00 | bigzero | not the tab part anyway |
| 00:20.03 | Arrowmaster | works for me |
| 00:20.12 | Arrowmaster | i never messed with the tab part |
| 00:20.29 | deadlock | Uh i have it off, and my chat box is still seethru and clear |
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| 00:20.42 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: gtfo |
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| 00:22.01 | Shadowed | http://shadowed.pastey.net/80005 AlarLib is scary |
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| 00:23.05 | Shadowed | I swear |
| 00:23.12 | Shadowed | we need an intervention on AlarLib |
| 00:23.17 | Shadowed | to stop his horrible monster of a library |
| 00:23.20 | Cryect | whats it do? |
| 00:23.26 | Shadowed | what doesn't it do |
| 00:23.37 | Cryect | hehe |
| 00:23.45 | Cryect | alright whats it supposed to do? |
| 00:23.54 | Shadowed | again |
| 00:23.58 | Xinhuan | hahah |
| 00:23.58 | Cryect | Just something where he threw in any function he can think of? |
| 00:23.58 | Shadowed | what's it not supposed to do! |
| 00:23.58 | Ellipsis | but it's funny Shadowed :( |
| 00:24.09 | Shadowed | it's about 140 KB |
| 00:24.27 | Shadowed | with everything as a global basically |
| 00:24.54 | Xinhuan | well his next commit was about |
| 00:24.54 | Xinhuan | [1/4 07:37:08] <CIA-8> AlarBGHelper |
| 00:24.54 | Xinhuan | [1/4 07:37:08] <CIA-8> 3.2.1 |
| 00:24.54 | Xinhuan | [1/4 07:37:08] <CIA-8> Fixed: Battlegroup scan sometimes stopped to work |
| 00:25.01 | Xinhuan | so i assumed battlegroup scan uses a coroutine! |
| 00:25.03 | Xinhuan | lol! |
| 00:25.04 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 00:25.32 | Cryect | so how much processing does this library use :-p |
| 00:25.42 | Shadowed | uh |
| 00:25.47 | Shadowed | a lot |
| 00:26.08 | deadlock | Is there a reason why my frame rates drop when i put my mouse over a playerframe using xperl or pitbull. |
| 00:26.08 | Shadowed | GC probably cries when it's loaded |
| 00:26.22 | Cryect | you using Auctioneer? |
| 00:26.23 | Xinhuan | deadlock - probably a tooltip addon |
| 00:26.47 | Cryect | Auctioneers companion tooltip addon is notorious bad at performance |
| 00:27.05 | Xinhuan | hi cryect |
| 00:27.12 | Cryect | Hi Xinhuan |
| 00:27.26 | Xinhuan | we kinda ported graphlib to 2.0 using libstub |
| 00:27.43 | Cryect | oh neat? |
| 00:27.52 | Cryect | What for? |
| 00:27.52 | Xinhuan | i also fixed some issues in it |
| 00:27.59 | JoshBorke | Cryect: wb |
| 00:28.06 | JoshBorke | Cryect: you get my email? |
| 00:28.12 | Cryect | your email? |
| 00:28.16 | Cryect | did you send it today? |
| 00:28.38 | Cryect | yes you did I see |
| 00:28.42 | Cryect | yes I just got it |
| 00:28.54 | Cryect | And nope I have no issue with that |
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| 00:29.23 | Xinhuan | do you have any issues if i update libgraph-2.0 to properly upgrade embedded functions? |
| 00:29.27 | Cryect | libstub the new stub for Ace3? or is that the old stun library thing |
| 00:29.35 | Cryect | Nope none at all |
| 00:29.41 | Cryect | Can do whatever you want with it |
| 00:29.42 | FtH|Daemona | Xinhuan i updated recount 5 minutes ago, noissues so far |
| 00:30.04 | Stanzilla | recount still uses 1.0? |
| 00:30.05 | Cryect | Only thing that would kinda annoy me is stripping any references to me or something :-p |
| 00:30.19 | Xinhuan | 2.0 was only just commited about 3 hours ago |
| 00:30.33 | Xinhuan | basically i cleaned up your drawline() |
| 00:30.39 | Xinhuan | to be twice as fast |
| 00:30.44 | Cryect | ah nice |
| 00:30.50 | Cryect | I saw you had cleaned up removelines |
| 00:31.01 | Xinhuan | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/GraphLib |
| 00:31.04 | Xinhuan | check the latest one |
| 00:31.30 | Cryect | what broke in DrawVLine and DrawHLine? |
| 00:31.40 | Xinhuan | you didn't swap 2 variables properly |
| 00:31.50 | Xinhuan | they both ended up with the same value |
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| 00:32.00 | Cryect | Hmmm I wonder why they worked |
| 00:32.02 | Xinhuan | so if the input was ex > sx, then the line doesn't get drawn |
| 00:32.09 | Xinhuan | but if sx > ex, then the line gets drawn |
| 00:32.17 | Cryect | Oh |
| 00:32.27 | Xinhuan | your code worked because when you added the drawHline and drawvline |
| 00:32.33 | Xinhuan | you didn't do a "return" |
| 00:32.37 | Cryect | Since Recount basically the only thing that used it guess I wouldnt noticed |
| 00:32.48 | Xinhuan | so your drawline proceeded to drawn another line on top of your vertical/horizontal line |
| 00:32.50 | Xinhuan | i.e you drew 2 lines |
| 00:32.53 | Cryect | haha whoops! |
| 00:33.02 | Xinhuan | pretty good programming! ^^ |
| 00:33.49 | FtH|Daemona | failsafe code? aka redundant |
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| 00:34.56 | JoshBorke | i'm not ready to play nice |
| 00:34.58 | Cryect | yeah I see the issue |
| 00:35.04 | Xinhuan | well when an addon like Recount is drawing a few hundred vertical/horizontal lines, it ended up drawing everything twice |
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| 00:35.07 | Xinhuan | so, it wasn't healthy |
| 00:35.48 | Cryect | Doing T:SetTexture(TextureDirectory.."line") for lines already set wasn't causing performance issues? |
| 00:35.58 | Cryect | was worried it would try to reload the cache or something :-p |
| 00:36.01 | Xinhuan | that line is actually required |
| 00:36.06 | Cryect | Should have tested |
| 00:36.09 | Xinhuan | i tried removing it |
| 00:36.09 | Cryect | well I see why |
| 00:36.19 | Cryect | its required because of how you grab the texture now |
| 00:36.22 | Xinhuan | and the texture merely just got transformed again |
| 00:36.26 | Cryect | local T = tremove(C.GraphLib_Lines) or C:CreateTexture(nil, "ARTWORK") |
| 00:36.41 | Cryect | since you could get a texture there without the texture being set now |
| 00:36.46 | Cryect | instead of the old way |
| 00:36.52 | Xinhuan | i had a IF for that |
| 00:36.58 | Xinhuan | originally |
| 00:37.00 | Xinhuan | i found out that |
| 00:37.11 | Xinhuan | if you didn't do a settexture() before the settexcoord |
| 00:37.23 | Xinhuan | it screws up on some transformations |
| 00:37.34 | Cryect | settexture redoes some of the transformations yeah |
| 00:38.27 | JoshBorke | man you people are nerdy |
| 00:38.28 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 00:38.37 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 00:38.44 | Estil | lol |
| 00:38.44 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 00:38.47 | Cryect | Says the person who told me use statusbars instead of textures |
| 00:39.05 | Xinhuan | hey it took me 1 hour to figure out what settexcoord really does |
| 00:39.13 | Xinhuan | (lol) |
| 00:39.29 | Xinhuan | the wowwiki article on it is slightly counterintuitive |
| 00:39.51 | Cryect | haha yeah |
| 00:39.57 | Cryect | there is 2 ways settexcoord can work |
| 00:40.00 | Cryect | which makes it confusing |
| 00:40.58 | Xinhuan | the 4 arg method :(a, b, c, d) is really just expanded to :(0, a, 0, b, 1, c, 1, d) |
| 00:40.58 | Cryect | btw nicest thing I have to say about the current codebase I'm working on it autorecompiles our script files on the fly as we change them |
| 00:41.15 | Chompers | im reading the EJ forum post 'DBM vs BW' |
| 00:41.19 | Cryect | none of this ReloadUI() shit :-p |
| 00:41.34 | Chompers | is bigwig3 really as good as people say? |
| 00:41.37 | Chompers | or going to be |
| 00:42.04 | Cryect | So what else is using GraphLib now? |
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| 00:42.33 | vhaarr | Chompers: kind of depends what people are saying, there are no official plans for a BW3 yet |
| 00:42.37 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Routes uses Drawline in it |
| 00:42.45 | Xinhuan | vanasKos uses it to draw a win/lose piechart |
| 00:42.49 | Xinhuan | and recount |
| 00:42.53 | Xinhuan | not sure if anything else uses it |
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| 00:43.05 | Xinhuan | but there's probably a few out there |
| 00:43.46 | Xinhuan | i'm considering just copying the drawline() out into _routes since that's the only function it uses |
| 00:43.51 | Cryect | yeah |
| 00:43.57 | Cryect | thats what I would recommend |
| 00:44.20 | vhaarr | Chompers: so what are people saying? |
| 00:44.26 | Cryect | A simple DrawLineLibrary prolly would be used decent amount |
| 00:45.06 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r57866 10ActionCombat/ (4 files): |
| 00:45.06 | CIA-8 | ActionCombat: Option that fades the animations if... |
| 00:45.06 | CIA-8 | - player is not in combat |
| 00:45.06 | CIA-8 | - player is not in meele combat |
| 00:45.07 | Xinhuan | basically, i improved the drawline() mainly because it is used realtime to draw lines on the minimap in realtime |
| 00:45.14 | Xinhuan | i suspect recount would see a improvement too |
| 00:45.25 | Cryect | yes it would |
| 00:45.33 | Cryect | though the graphs that use drawline aren't in realtime |
| 00:45.45 | Cryect | but still several would see the improvement |
| 00:45.47 | Xinhuan | realtimegraph sorta does it |
| 00:46.01 | Cryect | oh yeah for the gridlines |
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| 00:46.13 | Cryect | but thats a small portion of the performance time |
| 00:46.45 | Xinhuan | i don't quite understand the gridlines heh |
| 00:46.47 | Kemayo | http://www.mibbit.com <-- nifty. |
| 00:46.49 | Xinhuan | why do they change |
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| 00:47.22 | Cryect | They change because the YMax on the realtime graph can change based on the data |
| 00:47.43 | Xinhuan | so YMax scales with time and data? |
| 00:47.50 | Cryect | Just Data |
| 00:48.01 | Cryect | Well since time is X Axis |
| 00:48.12 | Kemayo | Hm... a graphlib "export to Google Charts" function... |
| 00:48.15 | Cryect | but yeah it will change to fit the data best it can |
| 00:48.46 | Xinhuan | i asked shadowed to implement some sort of realtime cpu usage graph for each addon in OptionHouse |
| 00:48.51 | Xinhuan | sorta like Process Explorer |
| 00:49.01 | Xinhuan | but for addons |
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| 00:49.24 | Cryect | Heh would be like 2 lines of code in Recount |
| 00:49.49 | Xinhuan | well if you have 150 addons, then there would be 150 graphs |
| 00:49.53 | Cryect | then again would be like 2 lines of Code in any addon if you want a hardcoded graph that can't be dragged/resized |
| 00:50.06 | Xinhuan | so you could see at a glance what is using CPU |
| 00:50.23 | Xinhuan | instead of staring at numbers that change every second |
| 00:50.33 | Cryect | Well... it could just show the graphs of the biggest |
| 00:50.39 | Cryect | or use a percentage based graph |
| 00:50.54 | Cryect | but would be hard to colorize it well |
| 00:50.55 | Xinhuan | ah yes, % based stacked graphs |
| 00:51.03 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 00:52.18 | Xinhuan | FtH|Daemona: recount still uses graphlib-1.0 ;p |
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| 00:53.01 | NivFreak | man |
| 00:53.01 | NivFreak | paladins are so boring to play |
| 00:53.10 | Cryect | haha good old autoattack :-p |
| 00:53.35 | thul | shamans on the other hand:D |
| 00:53.38 | thul | almost as fun as my rogue :-P |
| 00:53.43 | Xinhuan | paladins has 3 exciting and completely different playstyles! |
| 00:53.47 | Xinhuan | how can it be boring :( |
| 00:55.31 | NivFreak | I'm only lvl 10 amt |
| 00:55.35 | NivFreak | atm :) |
| 00:56.04 | NivFreak | I figured I'd give it a shot until 20 |
| 00:56.09 | NivFreak | see if I want to play it or not |
| 00:56.32 | Estil | depends on your playstyle method |
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| 00:56.46 | Estil | and whether if you like interactive vs. passive |
| 00:57.14 | Cryect | Passive I will go play EVE :-p |
| 00:57.34 | thul | haha |
| 00:57.39 | Estil | Paladin class is possibly the least interactive class in the game in terms of leveling |
| 00:57.49 | thul | I'm at 64 now |
| 00:58.05 | thul | crusader strike, seal of command, judgement of command, crusader strike |
| 00:58.17 | Cryect | Yes its great designing a class you can play one handed |
| 00:58.33 | Cryect | Then make the armor for the females of that class very scantily |
| 00:58.37 | Estil | that reminds me of a classic post by a paladin explaning why paladin playstyle is very uninspired |
| 00:58.47 | thul | hehe |
| 00:58.53 | Estil | something about how paladin class was designed to be played while watching porn |
| 00:58.55 | thul | i think I know which one you are refering too |
| 00:58.56 | thul | :-P |
| 00:58.56 | thul | yeah |
| 00:58.59 | Cryect | Thats because Tigole and Furor hates hybrids didn't you hear |
| 00:59.24 | Estil | I have managed 2 lv 60 paladins pre-tbc |
| 00:59.26 | Estil | dunno how I did it |
| 00:59.35 | Cryect | lots of porn |
| 00:59.52 | Estil | I play wow windowed so I alt tabbed a lot and viewed lots of interesting things |
| 01:00.10 | Estil | I don't egt to do that with other classes |
| 01:00.51 | Estil | and a friend of mine plays ret pally |
| 01:00.57 | Estil | he firmly believes tigole and furor is out to get his class |
| 01:01.43 | Cryect | prolly hates Kalgan as well! |
| 01:02.08 | Estil | kalgan probably hates ret pallys on the basis of "BWAAA THEY STOLE MY DPS LOOTS" |
| 01:02.13 | Cryect | haha search on google for Kalgan and the first thing you get is http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/24/kalgan-on-retribution/ |
| 01:02.17 | Estil | but probably embraces healbot pallys |
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| 01:03.26 | Estil | you know something is wrong when ret pally hate is almost universal |
| 01:03.29 | Estil | like warlock hate |
| 01:03.45 | Cryect | hehe |
| 01:03.57 | Cryect | Its like how we all hate JoshBorke |
| 01:04.20 | Estil | but in-game |
| 01:04.23 | Estil | people don't really hate warlocks ' |
| 01:04.29 | JoshBorke | yep yep |
| 01:04.30 | Estil | only when if warlock happens to be the enemy |
| 01:04.30 | Ellipsis | I hate ret pallies more tbh |
| 01:04.40 | Estil | but ret pally is hated by his own faction and laughed by the enemy |
| 01:04.42 | Estil | in-game |
| 01:05.20 | Cryect | occasionally they get lucky and have a ton of procs at once and you go from 100% to 0% in 1 tick |
| 01:05.41 | Xinhuan | what class do you play? |
| 01:05.48 | Cryect | just requires the planets of 5 million solar systems to align perfectly |
| 01:05.58 | Estil | lol I had some of those on my pally :( |
| 01:05.58 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 01:06.20 | Estil | pre-threat patch, and immediately I pull agro |
| 01:06.22 | Cryect | I played a druid & mage |
| 01:06.22 | Estil | from a good tank |
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| 01:06.46 | Estil | so I'm forced to use bosalv on my pally for majority of the tanks |
| 01:06.50 | Estil | if I'm dpsing |
| 01:07.04 | Cryect | Thats true for most DPS |
| 01:07.24 | Estil | well once tank has threat built up |
| 01:07.36 | Estil | only mage or destro locks -might- pull agro with crit strings |
| 01:07.39 | Chompers | has anyone used tourguide before? |
| 01:07.43 | Estil | ret pallys pull agro with ease |
| 01:07.45 | Chompers | i don't have a clue how to start it :S |
| 01:07.59 | thul | hmm |
| 01:08.04 | Cryect | Without salv I had no issue pulling on my druid |
| 01:08.04 | thul | my ret-pala (2v2) is doing just fine :-P |
| 01:08.14 | thul | he eats trough cloth (s2/s3 gear) like candy |
| 01:08.16 | Estil | until you meet a team with druid in it! |
| 01:08.19 | Estil | or a disc priest |
| 01:08.38 | Estil | ret pally is easiest of my matchups |
| 01:08.44 | Estil | just 5 manaburns is all it takes to run them oom |
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| 01:09.50 | Neros | Hey guys. |
| 01:10.31 | thul | Estil: well, i stunlock priests and druids:P |
| 01:10.52 | Estil | druid has to be pretty crappy if they let you get to them :( |
| 01:10.54 | thul | and while the discpriest is in cs, ks, HoJ-lock, he gets eaten up by my imba-shadowstepambush :-D |
| 01:10.57 | thul | Estil: shadowstep |
| 01:11.00 | thul | BoF |
| 01:11.05 | Estil | oh wow |
| 01:11.05 | thul | etc ;-) |
| 01:11.15 | Estil | ret pally + sub rogue? |
| 01:11.19 | Estil | and it works out well for ya? interesting |
| 01:11.39 | Estil | I guess all the "bwahhh sub sucks" is a lie if you get right teammates |
| 01:11.46 | thul | well? neeh, 1600-1800 rating :-D but I'm just in it for the points. |
| 01:11.56 | thul | that said, subt work far better for me than muti in arena |
| 01:11.59 | Neros | Guys, is there anyway to make an eePanel show up with Violation? |
| 01:12.08 | Neros | Parenting it, if it's called that. |
| 01:12.18 | thul | but we are a burst team, if someone outlasts our initial attempt of making it 2v1 |
| 01:12.21 | thul | we are screwed:P |
| 01:12.24 | Estil | :( |
| 01:13.15 | thul | typically premed, shadowstep, ambush, HoJ, backstab, ks, backstab (plus lots of pala damage:P) kills people |
| 01:13.22 | thul | but if it doesen't, we are kind of screwed |
| 01:13.33 | thul | still have 2xvanish and stuff, but still |
| 01:13.36 | Estil | interesting |
| 01:13.50 | thul | but as said, I just do casual arena for points :-P |
| 01:13.54 | Estil | discpriest is my main but |
| 01:14.02 | Estil | a warrior friend of mine runs with a holy pally in 2's |
| 01:14.05 | thul | ah, ok. |
| 01:14.11 | Estil | and he complains at being unable to break 1800s |
| 01:14.14 | Estil | in bg9 |
| 01:14.19 | Estil | so he told me to go roll a druid |
| 01:14.19 | thul | hmm |
| 01:14.20 | Estil | :( |
| 01:14.24 | thul | ok:P |
| 01:14.29 | Estil | my druid is currently level 39 :D |
| 01:14.43 | thul | well, the main advantage in a ret pala over holy for me, is blind + repentance = kill-the-other-dude-quick-time. |
| 01:14.49 | Estil | yea |
| 01:14.54 | thul | hence, burst. |
| 01:15.00 | Estil | and hope it's enough |
| 01:15.24 | Neros | Anyone here that's good with eePanels? |
| 01:15.38 | thul | i start up with sap, they trinket, I shadowstep/ambush, change targets/blind, HoJ first target, backstab... blahblah |
| 01:16.01 | Estil | would a druid work well with ret pally too? |
| 01:16.18 | thul | i would think so, great mobility so no need for pala to use BoF on druid |
| 01:16.25 | Estil | k |
| 01:16.29 | Cryect | and Cyclone! :-p |
| 01:16.32 | thul | but disclaimer: I AM NO EXPERT |
| 01:16.33 | Estil | can't wait to get my druid to 70 and enjoy easy arena |
| 01:16.34 | thul | at all :-P |
| 01:16.36 | thul | hehe |
| 01:16.52 | thul | I'm lvling shaman, pally and warrior now (63, 64, 44) :-P |
| 01:16.53 | deadlock | Is there a way to output all the loaded addon's currently running to like a text file or something |
| 01:17.14 | Matrix110| | ingame? |
| 01:17.19 | deadlock | ya |
| 01:18.05 | Matrix110| | dont think thats possible without another addon atleast |
| 01:18.05 | deadlock | omg i cant get these damn chat tabs to not fade away |
| 01:19.31 | Estil | although I'll miss how strong my disc priest is |
| 01:20.04 | Estil | and being able to tank melee |
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| 01:20.29 | thul | I hate disc-priests and their "deflect damage back"-shieldage :-( |
| 01:20.43 | thul | I want "if you use daggers, you will ignore 200 resilience"-buff to rogues :-P |
| 01:20.56 | Estil | noes |
| 01:21.23 | Estil | it's hard as it is to tank rogues :( |
| 01:21.24 | deadlock | Can I have two sets of arrows at the top for direction at once? Like tomtom +quest helpers arrows |
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| 01:29.42 | Lukian | Is the relegation author in here? |
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| 01:31.09 | Estil | wish this town would get a ddr supernova 2 and a piunx |
| 01:31.23 | Lukian | deadlock, that functionality is offered by wow itself |
| 01:32.03 | Lukian | WoW/WTF/Account/NAME/Jubei'Thos/Sunsilk/AddOns.txt |
| 01:34.58 | Matrix110| | but you gotta filter the disabled ones there |
| 01:35.00 | Matrix110| | although thats easy |
| 01:37.32 | thul | Estil: well, i want viable daggers:P |
| 01:37.34 | thul | but, bedtime |
| 01:37.35 | thul | cya guys |
| 01:38.19 | Estil | bye! |
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| 01:40.14 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57869 10Prat/ (Prat.toc extras/Frameworks.lua libs/ libs/includes.xml): Prat: SharedMedia-1.0 -> LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 01:40.55 | deadlock | I finnaly got it. ididnt have tabs enabled with prat. One more question can you adjust prats strata |
| 01:42.34 | Shadowed | Cryect: How is the performance of LibGraph anyway? |
| 01:42.54 | Shadowed | Is it the kind of thing I need to throttle how many addons we graph out given it's basically being updated every second, or probably not a huge issue |
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| 01:44.15 | Xinhuan | you only need to display on screen 15 graphs since you only have 15 rows |
| 01:44.29 | Xinhuan | question - why is the performance tab reverse sorted on load lol |
| 01:45.32 | Shadowed | No, it's not going to be intergraded into the default view |
| 01:45.39 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 01:45.46 | Shadowed | It's going to be done as a new frame view that you switch to |
| 01:45.58 | Xinhuan | ah, i see, that makes sense |
| 01:46.06 | Xinhuan | since you would only start the graphing if needed |
| 01:46.20 | Xinhuan | rather than have it constantly run |
| 01:46.56 | Xinhuan | are you using 1.0 or 2.0? |
| 01:47.35 | Shadowed | 2.0 |
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| 01:47.51 | Centurio_42357 | http://myex.ath.cx/?id=5b23b90f |
| 01:47.52 | JoshBorke | 2.0 was just created and i haven't worked on it |
| 01:47.58 | JoshBorke | nor am i sense i'm going to be raiding soon |
| 01:48.04 | Xinhuan | i made sure it worked JoshBorke ;p |
| 01:48.19 | sylvanaar | ah you making the cpu use graphing tool Shadowed? |
| 01:48.22 | Xinhuan | i just need to update the thing to add a table to register graphs so i can properly do upgrade paths |
| 01:48.50 | Shadowed | probably |
| 01:49.37 | JoshBorke | yep, that was my fix to |
| 01:50.13 | Xinhuan | would you like to do it later JoshBorke? |
| 01:50.26 | JoshBorke | i can, when i have time/motivation |
| 01:50.43 | Xinhuan | whoever is faster then ;p |
| 01:50.58 | NeoTron | http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200712/error'd/stoned.png is pretty win for contextual adsd |
| 01:54.26 | Shadowed | and not a CPU graphing tool, it's simply getting built into OHs perf view syeren |
| 01:54.28 | Shadowed | sylvanaar |
| 01:56.46 | sylvanaar | Shadowed ok |
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| 01:57.30 | Cryect | Shadowed: Depends on how you use it |
| 01:57.42 | Shadowed | Cryect: Personally, I'd rather use it well |
| 01:57.49 | Cryect | I doubt you will feed it anywhere near the heavy amount of data Recount spits into it |
| 01:57.58 | Cryect | Realtime Graphs are optimized the most for realtime feed |
| 01:58.13 | Cryect | But can only show one dataset at the moment with them |
| 01:58.16 | Shadowed | I'll be feeding in addons * 2 lines of data every second |
| 01:59.01 | Xinhuan | i would probably look into the graphlib code in more detail sometime this week |
| 01:59.07 | Xinhuan | and localize most of the math functions |
| 01:59.08 | Cryect | Test it out and I'm sure there is more optimizations that could be made |
| 01:59.17 | Xinhuan | it was originally using all globals lol |
| 01:59.18 | Cryect | I didn't really optimize the nonrealtimes too much |
| 01:59.22 | Shadowed | Like, how hard would http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Image:Recount-GraphWindowSolo.jpg be say |
| 02:00.01 | Shadowed | their any actual docs or I just get to bitch at you in IRC? Graph didn't turn up anything on the wiki |
| 02:00.15 | Cryect | Not sure how many ms it would take to draw |
| 02:00.31 | Cryect | I would say add some slight timing code to Recount and you could get rough estimates |
| 02:00.38 | Shadowed | I don't care much about non real time data |
| 02:00.52 | Cryect | WEll I meant timing for a single draw |
| 02:00.56 | Shadowed | ah |
| 02:01.05 | Cryect | then you could get an idea how feasible |
| 02:01.11 | Cryect | and I can think of ways to optimize it more |
| 02:01.24 | Cryect | like the grid would get redrawn currently everytime there is a new dataset I believe |
| 02:01.30 | Cryect | well thats if I recall right been a few months |
| 02:01.43 | Cryect | Most of the code is kinda self explaintory |
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| 02:01.49 | Cryect | but no documentation really |
| 02:02.10 | Shadowed | bitch at you it is! |
| 02:02.10 | Cryect | look at the code at the bottom of the graph-1.0.lua |
| 02:02.14 | Xinhuan | i'll probably be optimizing most of it sometime |
| 02:02.25 | Xinhuan | a lot of the table code can be rewritten a bit |
| 02:02.27 | Cryect | there is examples of how to use pretty much all the functions |
| 02:02.35 | Hjalte | Cryect, has Elsia taken over development on Recount? |
| 02:02.38 | Cryect | since it was kinda my test case |
| 02:02.46 | Cryect | I have no idea |
| 02:03.00 | Cryect | Its up for grabs for whoever wants Recount-1.0 :-p |
| 02:03.21 | Cryect | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.23 | Hjalte | In case you hadn't seen it, http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/10598/ |
| 02:03.28 | Cryect | if I'm not too busy at work |
| 02:04.01 | Hjalte | I'd love to see more Recount, but two versions sound a bit too much :) |
| 02:04.10 | Cryect | WEll it needs to be rewritten |
| 02:04.16 | Cryect | It suffers from lots of bloats |
| 02:04.26 | Cryect | from ideas that I was curious how they would work |
| 02:04.43 | Cryect | In a lot of ways its a prototype of ideas that hadn't been implemented before |
| 02:05.47 | Hjalte | Cryect: It's the best damage meter featuring syncing that I've tried in a while, although I haven't tried SW Stats for quite some time. |
| 02:06.44 | Cryect | Heh coding WoW addons will bother me not having code instantly recompiled when I save my files |
| 02:07.07 | NeoTron | Cryect: does that mean you're back? :P |
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| 02:07.20 | Cryect | uh kinda |
| 02:07.30 | Shadowed | 2.4.0 will be awesome |
| 02:07.31 | Cryect | going to resubscribe account (on the 10 free days at the moment) |
| 02:07.35 | Cryect | Yes it will be |
| 02:07.39 | Shadowed | it'll make doing any sort of combat log things stupidly easy |
| 02:07.42 | Shadowed | instead of stupidly hard |
| 02:08.17 | Shadowed | libgraph is broken already |
| 02:08.18 | Shadowed | wtfs |
| 02:08.24 | Shadowed | local TextureDirectory="Interface\\AddOns\\"..string.match(debugstack(1,1,0), "AddOns\\(.+)LibGraph%-2%.0%.lua") |
| 02:08.25 | Shadowed | is failing |
| 02:08.27 | Cryect | hmmm did Xinhuan break it? |
| 02:08.33 | Cryect | how did it fail? |
| 02:08.36 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 02:08.39 | Shadowed | nil concat error |
| 02:08.43 | Xinhuan | what is it returning? |
| 02:08.45 | Shadowed | concatenating a nil |
| 02:08.58 | Cryect | you on a mac/linux? |
| 02:09.10 | Cryect | might be something weird there |
| 02:09.18 | Xinhuan | it should be concatenating the path between \\AddOns\\ to the file |
| 02:09.35 | Cryect | though last I knew it worked on Macs & Windows |
| 02:09.40 | Shadowed | Nope, Windows XP |
| 02:09.42 | Cryect | Did have to fix it for macs long ago |
| 02:09.49 | Xinhuan | can you print out what debugstack(1,1,0) is returning? |
| 02:10.52 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: "...addOns\\OptionHouse\\libs\\LibGraph-2.0\\LibGraph-2.0.lua:25: in main chunk\" minus the quotes |
| 02:11.02 | Cryect | oh oh |
| 02:11.04 | Shadowed | sorry, "...ddOns\\OptionHouse\\libs\\LibGraph-2.0\\LibGraph-2.0.lua:25: in main chunk\" no "a" in addons |
| 02:11.07 | Cryect | lowercase ddons |
| 02:11.13 | Cryect | oh |
| 02:11.15 | Xinhuan | lol, so the path is a bit too long |
| 02:11.15 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 02:11.15 | Cryect | ddons |
| 02:11.22 | Cryect | damn too long path |
| 02:11.26 | Xinhuan | and the "AddOns\\" part didn't match |
| 02:11.45 | Shadowed | Thats not exactly a non standard size |
| 02:11.46 | Xinhuan | that's what happens on debugstack(1,1,0) calls, stupid wow truncates the path |
| 02:12.26 | Shadowed | Too bad textures don't accept relative paths |
| 02:12.35 | Cryect | local TextureDirectory="Interface\\AddOns\\"..string.match(debugstack(1,1,0), "dOns\\(.+)LibGraph%-2%.0%.lua") |
| 02:12.37 | Cryect | should work fine |
| 02:12.45 | Xinhuan | there's no other way to obtain the path unfortunately |
| 02:12.47 | Shadowed | What if the addon name is longer then OptionHouse? =p |
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| 02:13.00 | Xinhuan | well then your embed folder shouldn't be so long |
| 02:13.04 | Cryect | Yeah well come up with a better idea if you have one! |
| 02:13.09 | Xinhuan | i.e don't go one extra layer of \libs\ |
| 02:13.27 | Shadowed | thats how you include it |
| 02:13.36 | vhaarr | rename the lua file "g2.lua", which is a bit shorter |
| 02:13.37 | Shadowed | and yea that fixed it |
| 02:13.38 | Cryect | Well the \libs\ is fine |
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| 02:13.58 | Xinhuan | indeed, renaming the lua file would work |
| 02:14.05 | Xinhuan | to shorten the thing |
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| 02:14.14 | Cryect | still run into cases with long addon names |
| 02:14.22 | Xinhuan | yeah, but not much we can do about that |
| 02:14.28 | Cryect | nope :-/ |
| 02:14.35 | Xinhuan | the author can always choose to embed the folder using shorter folder names |
| 02:14.36 | Cryect | really need a way to query local wow path |
| 02:14.38 | Shadowed | You should make it a bit more verbose, so if it fails to match they at least realize that |
| 02:14.52 | Bluecoat | ok, this is probably a nub question, but no matter what layout I use, Grid only shows 5 frames with unit names |
| 02:15.00 | Bluecoat | it shows all 25 frames, but only 5 have names |
| 02:15.06 | Xinhuan | yah, version 1.0's string.match() is worse lol |
| 02:15.20 | Shadowed | Cryect: Realtime graphs are the ones that are constantly moving on the top left when doing the test thing right? |
| 02:15.27 | Cryect | uh yes |
| 02:15.43 | Cryect | yeah its puts it in the top left checking |
| 02:15.52 | Xinhuan | i'll throw a more descriptive error shadowed, when i next update it |
| 02:16.39 | Cryect | What was worst about 1.0's? |
| 02:16.44 | Cryect | you just use Graph-1.0 |
| 02:16.47 | Cryect | instead of LibGraph-2.0 |
| 02:16.52 | Xinhuan | "Cartographer_Routes" |
| 02:16.52 | Cryect | so it was actually shorter |
| 02:17.07 | Xinhuan | "Cartographer_Routes\\Libs\\Graph-1.0\\Graph-1.0.lua" |
| 02:17.07 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 02:17.20 | Cryect | How did you get in 2.0 for that to fit? |
| 02:17.22 | Xinhuan | we ended up embeding it as |
| 02:17.22 | Shadowed | This will be fun |
| 02:17.36 | Cryect | ah |
| 02:17.53 | Shadowed | Lets say I wanted to show two different things as a real time graph? |
| 02:17.57 | DroolZzz | are you sure it's not a problem with the depth of the path as seen in xp? i.e. where the wow folder is stored? |
| 02:17.58 | Xinhuan | we ended up embedding it as "Cartographer_Routes\\G\\Graph-1.0.lua" |
| 02:17.59 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 02:18.07 | DroolZzz | or if xp is formatted fat32? |
| 02:18.15 | Shadowed | why don't you just say.... |
| 02:18.22 | Shadowed | Have them list the path to the texture folder? |
| 02:18.34 | Shadowed | Whats wrong with that |
| 02:18.53 | Cryect | Because that assumes the addon knows if its embedded |
| 02:19.04 | Cryect | if its not embedded then it might be wrong |
| 02:19.07 | Shirik | Okay so has anyone heard of this addon OnPar? |
| 02:19.12 | Shadowed | Well |
| 02:19.21 | Cryect | Maybe a way to test for that but I don't know off top my head |
| 02:19.27 | Shadowed | Whats that matter? |
| 02:19.37 | Bluecoat | any ideas on this Grid weirdness? it seems to have worked fine up until about a week ago |
| 02:19.43 | Shadowed | All you need is a valid path to the textures, and just always use the last one registered |
| 02:19.45 | Cryect | Means the addon won't know where the texture directory is if its not embedded |
| 02:19.55 | Cryect | Yes but if you don't use embedded libraries |
| 02:19.59 | Cryect | where is the correct path? |
| 02:20.04 | Shadowed | Tell them to go to hell? |
| 02:20.07 | Cryect | haha |
| 02:20.14 | Xinhuan | well at the moment, just focus on getting it to work, we'll figure out something later |
| 02:20.16 | Shadowed | I like Tekkub's view |
| 02:21.01 | Shadowed | anyway |
| 02:21.24 | Xinhuan | wonder if debugstack() has other options hmm |
| 02:21.33 | Xinhuan | will have to look it up |
| 02:21.41 | Cryect | I seem to recall it did if you have functions to call that we can't call |
| 02:21.42 | Shadowed | How would you add multiple things to the real time graph? Say I want to show CPU of Foo and Bar, can you show them both on the same realtime graph? |
| 02:22.06 | Cryect | On the same one at this time no, at least not stacked |
| 02:22.11 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 02:22.38 | Shadowed | I think, I'll add a record option then and plot it out as lines |
| 02:22.57 | Shadowed | I'll come up with some fancy magic like what Gatherer does and show a progress bar while it renders |
| 02:23.17 | Cryect | It would be fairly easy to have multiple nonstacked ones correctly ordered w/ minor modifications |
| 02:23.30 | Cryect | I was planning to add that then got distracted by something or another |
| 02:23.52 | Shadowed | Well, a real time graph with 50 different colors on it is going to be incredibly ugly. Something like the line type of graph looks better imo |
| 02:23.56 | Cryect | Yes |
| 02:24.44 | Shadowed | so |
| 02:25.04 | Shadowed | Say I want to plot out memory usage. Do I register like a min and max value, then I pass a bunch of other values and it plots everything out magically? |
| 02:25.19 | Cryect | basically |
| 02:25.28 | Cryect | or you could just enable Autoscale |
| 02:25.33 | Cryect | and it will figure out axis as well |
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| 02:27.33 | Shadowed | How would you do that? I see you call g:AddDataSeries({{0.05,0.05},{0.2,0.3},{0.4,0.2},{0.9,0.6}},{1.0,0.0,0.0,0.8}) |
| 02:27.41 | Shirik | oh dear god |
| 02:27.46 | Shadowed | Butttttt I have no clue what the fuck that is |
| 02:27.47 | Cryect | Also its better to add data using g:AddDataSeries({{x1, x2, x3, ..., xn},{y1, y2, y3, ..., yn}},color) than g:AddDataSeries({{x1, y1}, {x2, y2}, {x3,y3}, ..., {xn,yn}},color) |
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| 02:27.55 | CIA-8 | ActionCombat : |
| 02:27.55 | CIA-8 | - koKR Update |
| 02:28.19 | Cryect | AddDataSeries(data, color) |
| 02:28.21 | Xinhuan | i imagine recount passes in reused tables |
| 02:28.28 | Cryect | data can be a bunch of tuples of points |
| 02:28.44 | Shadowed | So basically |
| 02:28.47 | Cryect | or a list of x's and list of y's inside a table |
| 02:28.58 | Shadowed | AddDataSeries({points}, color)? |
| 02:29.03 | Cryect | Yep |
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| 02:29.17 | Cryect | Whatever format you prefer |
| 02:29.21 | Shadowed | And, points doesn't have to be anything special. I could basically be passing points as memory in bytes and it'll be awesome? |
| 02:29.25 | Cryect | it works internall with a list of x's and y's |
| 02:29.32 | Cryect | Yes |
| 02:29.51 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 02:29.53 | Shadowed | Sounds awesome |
| 02:30.00 | Shadowed | What about frame positioning? |
| 02:30.01 | Xinhuan | will need to turn off autoscale if you want ALL displayed graphs to have the same YMax |
| 02:30.04 | Cryect | oh and if you use a list of points you really should pass a third value I think of true |
| 02:30.10 | Shadowed | oh nevermind |
| 02:30.24 | Cryect | frame positioning is like normal |
| 02:30.26 | Shadowed | yea I see |
| 02:30.40 | Shadowed | What happens if I pass say |
| 02:30.44 | Cryect | basicaly the returned object tries to behave as much as you can expect it to handle |
| 02:30.56 | Shadowed | 10 different AddDataSeries with different min/maxs for a graph with auto scale on? |
| 02:31.10 | Cryect | Well the graph only has 1 min/max |
| 02:31.18 | Cryect | and if autoscale is enabled |
| 02:31.23 | Cryect | it ignores what the min and max is set to |
| 02:31.23 | Shadowed | Will it change the min/max if it sees one lower or higher in a point? |
| 02:31.24 | Cryect | unless... |
| 02:31.28 | Cryect | something has been locked |
| 02:31.34 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 02:31.41 | Cryect | You can say lock YMin=0 |
| 02:31.58 | Cryect | and then only YMax would scale along yaxis |
| 02:32.18 | Shadowed | Well, mostly I want to make sure somethings not going to go whacky since all I'm going to do is record memory each second and then call AddScalething |
| 02:32.35 | Cryect | Nothing should go whacky |
| 02:32.37 | Shadowed | kk |
| 02:32.53 | Cryect | the scaling will be different each set of passed data potentially if the maximum/mins are different |
| 02:33.12 | Cryect | And you might want to lock Y Min to 0 potentially |
| 02:33.15 | Shadowed | Last question at least for now! Can you remove the little lines that are sticking out for the display? In the default one the transparent gray lines go outside the white box, and some of the white box lines go outside of the actual "box" |
| 02:33.43 | Cryect | Hmmm strange they should be inside the box |
| 02:33.57 | Xinhuan | run your testgraphlib() lol |
| 02:33.59 | Xinhuan | they aren't inside ;p |
| 02:34.00 | Cryect | OH wait |
| 02:34.06 | Cryect | what type of frame border is it using |
| 02:34.18 | Shadowed | Dunno |
| 02:34.25 | Cryect | it doesn't have a border |
| 02:34.25 | Shadowed | It's the TestLineGraph one, I didn't change anything |
| 02:34.30 | Cryect | so uh |
| 02:34.32 | Cryect | what box? |
| 02:34.43 | Cryect | I have no addons loaded yet :-p |
| 02:34.50 | Shadowed | i can screenshot it moment |
| 02:35.53 | Cryect | installing recount to check it out |
| 02:36.25 | Cryect | freshly reinstalled wow back 2 days ago :-p |
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| 02:38.10 | Cryect | oh |
| 02:38.15 | JoshBorke | Cryect: playing wow again? |
| 02:38.30 | Cryect | are you calling the box that white lines? |
| 02:38.43 | Cryect | thats because the YMin and XMin are both less than 0 |
| 02:38.55 | Cryect | and haha I forgot I had the auto testing of pie charts in realtime |
| 02:38.57 | Shadowed | sec busting out my awesome paint skills |
| 02:39.28 | Cryect | oh wait it doesn't wonder why Recount preservation has that test version |
| 02:39.37 | Shadowed | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5738/examplefm1.png |
| 02:39.50 | Shadowed | not exactly a white box around it, but thats the basic idea |
| 02:39.56 | Cryect | k well thats easy |
| 02:40.06 | Cryect | set a frame border and disable axis drawing |
| 02:40.16 | Cryect | those white lines are where X=0 and Y=0 |
| 02:40.28 | Shadowed | How would you disable axis drawing? |
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| 02:40.41 | Shadowed | SetAxisDrawing? |
| 02:40.46 | Cryect | :SetAxisDrawing(false,false) |
| 02:40.48 | Shadowed | kk |
| 02:40.49 | Cryect | if I recall right |
| 02:41.17 | Xinhuan | soundslike this graphlib is pretty powerful, just needs lots of documentation |
| 02:41.21 | Shadowed | yea |
| 02:41.28 | Shadowed | Is it possible to trim the little grey ends sticking out? |
| 02:41.37 | Cryect | Well sure |
| 02:41.38 | Shadowed | oh wait |
| 02:41.39 | Shadowed | nevermind |
| 02:41.50 | Cryect | have you xmin and xmax etc set to proper multiples of the grid spacing |
| 02:41.58 | Shadowed | nevermind! |
| 02:41.59 | Cryect | its using autoscaling |
| 02:42.16 | Cryect | hehe |
| 02:42.35 | Shadowed | How does it work in terms of drawing the graph, will it attempt to redraw everything or just what you AddDataSeries? |
| 02:42.51 | Shadowed | Think I may make it record data, and every 5 seconds it writes out the results...dunno what the performance impact would be thought |
| 02:43.00 | Cryect | It draws onec a frame max |
| 02:43.08 | Cryect | it delays to the next frame basically |
| 02:43.25 | Cryect | then draws everything asked in the frame before |
| 02:43.30 | Xinhuan | there's no reason to send data to the graph more than once a frame anyway |
| 02:43.36 | Shadowed | What if you want to remove a series? |
| 02:43.50 | Shadowed | Would you need to basically clear the graph and redraw everything? |
| 02:43.53 | Cryect | It has to redraw |
| 02:43.55 | Cryect | so yeah |
| 02:44.08 | Cryect | No way to remove individual data sets |
| 02:44.19 | Shadowed | sadface |
| 02:44.22 | Cryect | would have been more hassle than worthed for a feature I didn't need personally |
| 02:44.25 | starlon | How does one install new addons with wau2? I don't see an option to install checked. |
| 02:44.26 | Cryect | You could add it |
| 02:44.31 | Cryect | wouldn't be too hard |
| 02:44.35 | Shadowed | probably |
| 02:44.42 | Shadowed | I'm going to focus on getting this to work first |
| 02:44.56 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 02:45.00 | Shadowed | time to break stuff |
| 02:45.03 | Cryect | I didn't see removing data sets a highly used feature |
| 02:45.05 | Xinhuan | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx <-- screenshot of process explorer |
| 02:45.11 | Cryect | so didn't seem like it really needed its own thing |
| 02:45.11 | Xinhuan | and its CPU usage graphing |
| 02:45.14 | Xinhuan | of each process |
| 02:45.28 | Shadowed | Yeah, I was mostly thinking of being able to remove addons from the graph without having to delete/redraw, but it's not a big feature |
| 02:45.37 | Shadowed | It's not going to look like that |
| 02:45.41 | Shadowed | well, not specifically |
| 02:45.47 | Shadowed | it'll be a graph, and it'll be fancy |
| 02:45.48 | Cryect | It can definately be added if the axis scaling doesn't changed |
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| 02:46.05 | Shadowed | Seems like it would be easier to just assign an id to datasets you add so you remove that way |
| 02:46.11 | Shadowed | and less costly |
| 02:46.29 | Cryect | yes if you happen to be removing/adding datasets often yes it would be |
| 02:46.53 | Shadowed | Well, less costly then having to identify a dataset by points |
| 02:46.53 | Cryect | Personally I wasn't nor could think of a good case at the time why you really want to remove/add datasets willy nilly |
| 02:46.55 | JoshBorke | Cryect: quit ignoring me |
| 02:47.00 | Cryect | while not hcanging the data of other datasets |
| 02:47.02 | Shadowed | Yeah, I don't see it as a useful enough feature to add |
| 02:47.02 | Cryect | ignore what? |
| 02:47.07 | JoshBorke | Cryect: are you playing wow again? |
| 02:47.13 | Cryect | kinda I said |
| 02:47.24 | Cryect | not raiding thats for sure |
| 02:47.35 | Cryect | Just leveling a blood elf priest mainly at the moment w/ a friend |
| 02:48.59 | Cryect | Oh and if for some reason you want to force the draw right away instead of wait till the next frame you can always call :RefreshGraph() |
| 02:49.06 | Cryect | which is basically like a flush |
| 02:49.33 | Shadowed | kk |
| 02:51.38 | Shadowed | And so whats this SetMode. It looks like it controls the speed at which it renders? |
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| 02:52.25 | Cryect | SetMode is for realtime graphs |
| 02:52.33 | Shadowed | oh okay |
| 02:52.35 | Cryect | basically there is a few different integration modes |
| 02:52.43 | Cryect | some are faster than others |
| 02:52.49 | Cryect | while some are more "accurate" |
| 02:53.37 | Xinhuan | can i bother you to add function comments and docs to libgraph2-0? lol |
| 02:54.11 | Cryect | I'm really surprised how few comments are in the file but I see why since its mostly math that is self explainatory :-p |
| 02:54.27 | Cryect | Or well self explainatory if you know the math behind a graph I guess |
| 02:54.28 | Xinhuan | the functions themself aren't |
| 02:54.41 | Cryect | I should have docs on the functions though yeah |
| 02:54.54 | Cryect | I can go through and do that whne I have some free time |
| 02:54.57 | Xinhuan | the only function that has doc is DrawLine() |
| 02:55.28 | Cryect | Yeah thats not my comments either :-p |
| 02:55.40 | Cryect | Well actually wait it is |
| 02:55.45 | Shadowed | self explainatory means bitch at you to figure it out! |
| 02:56.00 | Cryect | Sure I have nothing wrong with that |
| 02:56.13 | Shadowed | It's not that complicated to understand actually |
| 02:56.33 | Cryect | Yeah, I tried to make it as obvious as possible assuming you've worked with say Matlab or something |
| 02:56.46 | Cryect | I would say its actually easier to make a graph with GraphLib than Matlab |
| 02:57.04 | Cryect | but lots of similarities since that kinda was my basis |
| 02:58.10 | Cryect | I have to say I love doc strings in Python (now if only the eve coders had used them more) |
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| 03:00.36 | Cryect | btw from my recollection the calling of updatecpuusage or whatever function is way more expensive than drawing a graph with graphlib |
| 03:02.45 | bigzero | So I added the message filters to ForeverAFK and I was testing it by trying to logout while in combat to see if the "You can't logout now." message appeared or if I got any taint and I get "Action blocked because of an Addon" message. Checked the log and it ended up being ClosetGnome_Switcher that's tainting it. phew |
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| 03:14.03 | Cryect | hmmm so I wonder has anyone stolen any of my ideas for Recount 2.0 yet :-p |
| 03:15.30 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 03:15.32 | Xinhuan | nobody did |
| 03:15.46 | Cryect | Mainly things like Ghost Data I'm curious |
| 03:16.02 | Cryect | Not sure if you ever read my post on ideas for Recount 2.0 on EJ |
| 03:18.12 | Xinhuan | it'll need a total rewrite come 2.4 anyway |
| 03:18.37 | Cryect | Yep |
| 03:18.46 | Cryect | hence the waiting till 2.4 to write 2.0 |
| 03:19.16 | Xinhuan | who's writing 2.0 |
| 03:19.47 | Cryect | Maybe me |
| 03:19.58 | Cryect | I dont know of anyone else wanting to do a complete rewrite |
| 03:20.26 | Xinhuan | in all likelihood 2.4 will take 2 months to test on ptr |
| 03:20.31 | Xinhuan | and arrive in April lol |
| 03:20.41 | Cryect | You sound optimisitic |
| 03:21.02 | Xinhuan | 2.3.2 only took 1 month hey |
| 03:21.32 | Cryect | Always amusing how long minor revisions take on PTR |
| 03:21.33 | Shadowed | 2 months? |
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| 03:21.37 | Shadowed | 3-4 |
| 03:21.48 | Xinhuan | 2.3 didn't take that long |
| 03:21.56 | Xinhuan | even though they added a whole new ZA in it |
| 03:21.57 | Cryect | 2.2 did |
| 03:22.04 | Shadowed | ZA is a bit different from Sunwell |
| 03:22.16 | Cryect | was like 10 weeks for 2.2 on PTR or something stupidly long |
| 03:22.18 | Xinhuan | 2.2 added BT/Hyjal isn't it |
| 03:22.26 | Shadowed | Things like a town that grows, or special keying based on the servers efforts are going to take a while |
| 03:22.28 | Cryect | actually think it was more |
| 03:22.45 | Shadowed | along with the new combat log stuff, and the proposed arena changes to make them suck less |
| 03:22.54 | Cryect | They are adding town that grows and special keyrings in 2.4? |
| 03:23.02 | Xinhuan | special keyrings? |
| 03:23.06 | Shadowed | sunwell keying is based off the server effort or some crap like that |
| 03:23.11 | Shadowed | and the town grows as rep increases or something |
| 03:23.11 | kergoth | 31 xp to level.. god i hate that |
| 03:23.36 | Shadowed | so yes, 3-4 months is what you're looking at most likely for 2.4.0 |
| 03:23.38 | Xinhuan | we'll just call it SW5 and SW25 instances hehe |
| 03:23.39 | Cryect | Town growing if I know how blizzard does it will just take time for the artists to make each of the stages :-p |
| 03:24.06 | Shadowed | I'd think we're getting 2.3.2 this week |
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| 03:24.14 | Xinhuan | considering 2.4 was announced way back at blizzcon and the ui code was partially done 2 months ago |
| 03:24.21 | Xinhuan | it might be sooner than we think |
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| 03:24.37 | Cryect | I've learned with blizzard to expect later than I think |
| 03:24.45 | Shadowed | "done" just means they can put it on PTR |
| 03:24.55 | Shadowed | I'd be amazed if they push it out in 2 months of being on PTR |
| 03:25.21 | Cryect | Blizzard is really good at writing code that constantly crashes their servers |
| 03:25.44 | Shadowed | Blizzard is really good at writing a game that manages to support 9 million people |
| 03:25.47 | Shadowed | so they do something right ;) |
| 03:25.56 | Cryect | PTR is almos talway a few months of stability testing |
| 03:26.17 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 03:26.22 | Shadowed | I just realized how stupidly simple this is |
| 03:26.25 | Cryect | I wouldn't say hundreds of individual shards is that impressive |
| 03:26.45 | Shadowed | I don't even have to measure the rate at which things change |
| 03:26.56 | Cryect | haha of course not :-p |
| 03:26.59 | Shadowed | I'm fairly sure, a lot of MMOPRPGs would be thrilled to have 9 million customers |
| 03:27.02 | Xinhuan | as long as you input in data at a constant fixed rate |
| 03:27.10 | Shadowed | yay my job is easy |
| 03:27.14 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 03:27.21 | Shadowed | except for clearing my cache table |
| 03:27.25 | Shadowed | on all the addons |
| 03:27.52 | Cryect | 9 million customers still doesn't mean your product isn't "crap" in lots of ways :-p |
| 03:28.03 | Cryect | just means lots of people pay for it and don't seek better |
| 03:28.03 | Shadowed | You can't make everyone happy |
| 03:28.06 | Xinhuan | cpu graphs should only be on when CPU profiling is active anyway |
| 03:28.13 | Cryect | and unfortunately there isn't really any better |
| 03:28.13 | Xinhuan | unless you want to show graphs for memery use too |
| 03:28.15 | Shadowed | and it still means they do something right |
| 03:28.17 | Shadowed | well yea |
| 03:28.25 | Shadowed | if i'm adding all of this code for graphs, it damn well better show memory |
| 03:28.30 | Cryect | MMOs are such an undeveloped market |
| 03:28.40 | Shadowed | again |
| 03:28.42 | Shadowed | 9 million customers |
| 03:28.43 | Cryect | Practically at FF1 levels of gameplay :-p |
| 03:28.46 | Shadowed | is not something you do with a shitty product |
| 03:28.51 | Shadowed | regardless |
| 03:29.11 | Cryect | WoW is a well polished product w/ decent gameplay |
| 03:29.15 | Cryect | the polishing is what pays off |
| 03:29.19 | Cryect | and what made Halo so well |
| 03:29.43 | Cryect | People really love polish which always impresses me so much |
| 03:30.09 | Bluecoat | i continue to have hope that Bioware will make a SWG that doesn't suck |
| 03:30.26 | Cryect | I have little hope in bioware doing that :-p |
| 03:30.48 | Cryect | I mean I like Mass Effect but I sure wouldn't want to play it for more than 2 days worth of playtime if the game mechanics were at all similar |
| 03:30.52 | Bluecoat | it's not humanly possible for them to screw it up as badly as Sony did |
| 03:31.12 | Xinhuan | the 9 mil will probably grow to 12 mil once wow is released in russia lol! |
| 03:31.18 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:32.21 | bigzero | lol...most russians probably play on private server anyway |
| 03:32.38 | bigzero | eastern-europeans don't like paying for siftware...especially monthly |
| 03:32.40 | Xinhuan | private servers suck |
| 03:32.43 | Cryect | private servers for wow are pretty crappy unless something has really changed in the past few months |
| 03:32.45 | Xinhuan | you can do 1-70 in 24 hours |
| 03:32.54 | Cryect | They are all basically I want to cheat servers |
| 03:32.59 | bigzero | it all depends on how you set the server up |
| 03:33.00 | Xinhuan | and all bosses are tank/spank, with no scripts |
| 03:33.03 | Cryect | and completely unbalanced |
| 03:33.08 | bigzero | you can make it so it's the same as blizz |
| 03:33.18 | Cryect | sure if you like grinding the servers are fine |
| 03:33.22 | Cryect | but you aren't going to raid on them |
| 03:33.23 | Xinhuan | they can't, they don't have the scripts for bosses |
| 03:33.34 | Cryect | and you aren't going to do PvP really on them either |
| 03:33.39 | Cryect | and the servers are really empty |
| 03:33.43 | bigzero | you'd be surprised what russian people are capable of :-) |
| 03:33.49 | Cryect | none of them try to do anything interesting |
| 03:33.54 | Cryect | they all try to copy WoW servers |
| 03:34.06 | Xinhuan | i'll say its mainly for people to test out builds |
| 03:34.06 | Cryect | and if you want to copy WoW why don't I pay a small $15 a month and just play WoW |
| 03:34.12 | Xinhuan | when PTRs are not available |
| 03:34.35 | Cryect | hard to test them when the game mechanics aren't exactly the same though |
| 03:34.43 | Cryect | similar but not quite there |
| 03:34.49 | bigzero | Cryect, $15/month is a lot in many countries |
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| 03:35.06 | Cryect | Yes but in other countries its not $15/month |
| 03:35.13 | Cryect | they vary the price |
| 03:35.23 | Cryect | Its a ton cheaper in china |
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| 03:35.49 | bigzero | hmmm...how much is it in europe? |
| 03:35.52 | bigzero | anyone? |
| 03:35.58 | Xinhuan | in china, the subscription model isn't by month |
| 03:36.00 | Xinhuan | its by hour |
| 03:36.04 | Cryect | correct :-p |
| 03:36.21 | Xinhuan | its by a timecard model because 90% of all MMOs (chinese mmos) use that model |
| 03:37.29 | Cryect | 27 Euro for 60 day playcard in Europe |
| 03:38.00 | Cryect | so taking account currency differences more expensive for them |
| 03:38.12 | Cryect | gaming is so expensive in Europe |
| 03:38.17 | Cryect | though mostly due to VAT |
| 03:38.33 | Xinhuan | also blame the Euro dollar for being so strong ;p |
| 03:38.48 | Cryect | yeah the euro being so strong hurts them |
| 03:39.18 | Cryect | discourages tourism and consumers often get inflated prices from direct dollar->euro price conversions |
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| 03:52.38 | Silowyi | hey |
| 03:52.59 | Silowyi | I heard a rumor that some blue poster said hunter dead zone may be coming back... did anyone see that thread, or is it just a rumor |
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| 03:59.51 | bigzero | imo it should...it was kinda hard to keep inside the deadzone anyway (well, not really for a frost mage :-P ) |
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| 04:02.59 | Jinxster | Silowyi, there's plenty of sites that track blue posts if you want to find a post should it exist. |
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| 04:05.22 | kenlyric | the fact that you can "keep inside the deadzone" is itself a broken game mechanic. |
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| 04:05.42 | kenlyric | give mages a deadzone and see how happy they are. |
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| 04:11.56 | Lyfe | kenlyric: that would be a bit different... especially since mage weapons typically aren't used for attacking, so much as for stats.. and a squishy little clothy could barely take a normal mob, much less anything elite, or of higher level. |
| 04:12.48 | kenlyric | Lyfe: so? |
| 04:13.10 | kenlyric | if you don't want hunters to attack between 4 and 8 yards, then don't let anyone |
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| 04:14.08 | kenlyric | warriors says "I wish I had a deadzone smaller than infinity" |
| 04:14.11 | Lyfe | kenlyric: i'm not suggesting there should be a dead zone like that, just that the effect of creating one for a mage would absolutely kill the class' usefulness, or it's ability to defeat anything. |
| 04:14.20 | Estil | lol |
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| 04:14.43 | Estil | warriors aren't op once you get geared |
| 04:14.55 | stavmar_ | Xinhuan: ping... |
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| 04:32.03 | bigzero | kenlyric, hunters are too op to complain. and technically they don't have a dead zone since they have a pet, which is like range 100yds... |
| 04:32.17 | kenlyric | hunters OP. |
| 04:32.24 | kenlyric | I died a little inside when you said that. |
| 04:32.38 | bigzero | why> |
| 04:32.44 | kenlyric | rememmber that 99% of hunters are terrible. |
| 04:32.56 | kenlyric | so it's difficult for them to OP. |
| 04:32.57 | bigzero | well..that doesn't make the class not op |
| 04:34.21 | KarlThePagan | removing the dead zone has made it quite difficult to deal with hunters in arena |
| 04:35.12 | KarlThePagan | with the effects of lag it's like they don't ever stop spamming instant shots on me |
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| 04:40.19 | JoshBorke | 23% alar =/ |
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| 04:48.48 | Sole | internet explorer below version 7 is just retarded =\ |
| 04:49.02 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57874 10ForeverAFK/ForeverAFK.lua: |
| 04:49.02 | CIA-8 | ForeverAFK: |
| 04:49.02 | CIA-8 | - Added filtering for IDLE_MESSAGE in ChatFrame and ERR_LOGOUT_FAILED in UIErrorsFrame |
| 04:49.03 | kenlyric | s/below version 7// |
| 04:49.12 | dylanm | ie7 is just mildly damaged |
| 04:49.23 | kenlyric | still retarted |
| 04:49.28 | kenlyric | *retarded |
| 04:49.50 | Sole | ie7 at least understands and displays css the way you would expect it to |
| 04:50.01 | bigzero | I like ie6...tabbed interface is meh..well was, now it grew on me |
| 04:50.09 | Sole | I look at my website in firefox and ie7...looks slightly different but its still fine |
| 04:50.13 | Sole | ie6 just looks retarded |
| 04:50.34 | bigzero | i think that about ie7 |
| 04:50.43 | bigzero | :-) |
| 04:50.48 | Sole | Im talking about the programming |
| 04:51.01 | bigzero | oh |
| 04:51.09 | dylanm | It's just maddening that they took all that time and their DOM implementation is still crap. |
| 04:51.27 | Sole | ie5.x and ie6 just don't display stuff properly |
| 04:51.38 | Sole | they display it, but just different to what they should be |
| 04:52.24 | bigzero | yeah, that had to be fixed, I agree...but their GUI is worse in ie7 imo |
| 04:53.00 | Sole | ie7 interface feels weird |
| 04:53.12 | Sole | it just feels awkward to use |
| 04:53.30 | bigzero | like, why would you remove the menu bar from the top and place it in the middle of the window?? |
| 04:53.43 | Sole | the shits trendy |
| 04:55.46 | kenlyric | at microsoft |
| 04:56.22 | bigzero | where else do they do it? |
| 04:57.14 | xyu | is the "knockdown" mechanic count as a "stun" ? |
| 04:57.22 | kenlyric | ie7 looks just like office 2007 |
| 04:57.26 | xyu | s/is/does |
| 05:03.49 | Shadowed | Cryect: pings |
| 05:04.21 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:04.52 | Sole | I almost cant be bothered writing hacks just so ie5.x and 6 can display my page properly |
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| 05:17.05 | Gngsk | why can't I change my nick because #wowace-cia is moderated? |
| 05:24.03 | NightHawkTheSane | did you miss some punctuation there, or are you actually asking why a channel being moderated prevents nick changes? |
| 05:24.32 | NightHawkTheSane | for the latter, a moderated channel prevents name changes to avoid name-change-spam |
| 05:26.19 | bigzero | nick change is a server thing, how can you block it in a channel? |
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| 05:26.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 05:26.46 | NightHawkTheSane | channel moderation is serverside. |
| 05:27.43 | bigzero | i still don't see why channel moderation (channel-wide thing) should prevent a nick change (server-wide thing) |
| 05:28.19 | KarlThePagan | because it's a fancy irc server |
| 05:29.08 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: fyi 2 people just hearth out of our raid in combat on our last wipe of the night, had both of them stuck on the global threat list afterwards, they were both still in game and in group just in shatt |
| 05:29.28 | NightHawkTheSane | bigzero: as i said, to prevent nick-change spam. when a person's nick changes, it's announced in all channels that user is in. to prevent a user from spamming a moderated channel with nick change messages, it prevents you from changing your nick if you're in a +m channel |
| 05:29.31 | Estil | shieldhearth |
| 05:30.33 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane, seems that message filtering would be a more appropriate control for this kind of feature. I was just surprised at the fancyness of this server..that's all |
| 05:31.03 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i'm not disagreeing, i'm merely explaining why it is the way it is ;) |
| 05:32.11 | Arrowmaster | being in a moderated channel or in a channel but banned (not kicked but preventing you from talking) prevents a few things |
| 05:32.34 | Arrowmaster | you cant change nicks, you cant part the channel with a part message, and you cant quit the server with a message |
| 05:33.41 | Cryect | Shadowed: Pong |
| 05:33.45 | Arrowmaster | or atleast thats how it behaves under the original specs, some networks change it so that you can do stuff like still change nicks |
| 05:33.48 | Shadowed | I forgot what I was going to ask you |
| 05:33.51 | Shadowed | uh |
| 05:33.53 | Cryect | Hehe |
| 05:33.54 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 05:34.02 | Shadowed | oh |
| 05:34.12 | Shadowed | two things |
| 05:34.36 | Shadowed | Is it possible to make the line graph look like the real time graph where you remove data that becomes X seconds old |
| 05:34.48 | Shadowed | or however it is you do it |
| 05:34.55 | Cryect | sure but you have to do it |
| 05:35.11 | Cryect | just remove the points before passed to AddDataSeries |
| 05:35.15 | Cryect | since you can't add to the data series |
| 05:35.20 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 05:35.35 | Shadowed | That'd be a bit hard |
| 05:35.37 | Shadowed | and |
| 05:35.44 | Cryect | Why would that be a bit hard? |
| 05:35.49 | Cryect | you plan to store the data forever? |
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| 05:36.11 | Cryect | and if so generate a new list before passing it then >Desired Time |
| 05:36.12 | Shadowed | no, but all I do right now is store numbers every 0.50 seconds, and plot it out every 5 seconds, then wipe the data and repeat |
| 05:36.27 | Shadowed | I don't wipe the entire graph and redraw it every 5 seconds |
| 05:36.33 | Cryect | Use a looped table |
| 05:36.36 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 05:36.52 | Cryect | Then recreate an unlooped version before hand |
| 05:37.05 | Shadowed | Yeah, that involves wiping the entire graph basically thought doesn't it? |
| 05:37.10 | Shadowed | or redrawing an entirely new one |
| 05:37.17 | Cryect | You basically have to do that everytime anyways |
| 05:37.21 | Cryect | redrawing the graph isn't that expensive |
| 05:37.28 | Cryect | its more expensive as I said to call UpdateCPUUsage |
| 05:37.58 | Shadowed | Isn't it going to be a bit expensive if you're talking someone with 50-100+ addons |
| 05:38.38 | Cryect | Hmmm not really considering I was plotting like 6 lines with 200 data points each and you are tlaking 50-100 addons with like 10 datapoints each |
| 05:39.21 | Shadowed | 10 data points, to add on top of the last 10 data points |
| 05:39.39 | Cryect | How long are you tracking backwards in time? |
| 05:39.48 | Shadowed | heres how it works |
| 05:39.58 | Cryect | I mean I can't see how you would plan to avoid redrawing the graph every few seconds anyways |
| 05:40.26 | Shadowed | Every 0.50 seconds we update CPU/memory and insert it into a table. Every 5 seconds we call graph:AddDataSeries using the cpu or memory info and wipe the data points table, then we repeat that. |
| 05:40.39 | Shadowed | My understanding is, that won't have to do a graph redraw because we just add new data series? |
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| 05:41.02 | Cryect | At the moment it redraws the graph in entirety if a new data series is added |
| 05:41.11 | Cryect | it just waits till the next frame so you can add several at once |
| 05:41.15 | Cryect | before it redraws it |
| 05:41.25 | Shadowed | ah hrm |
| 05:41.40 | Shadowed | So, there really is no advantage in clearing the data points before we repeat? |
| 05:41.48 | Cryect | nope |
| 05:41.55 | Shadowed | I may as well just store X data points and it'll basically do what I wanted |
| 05:41.57 | Shadowed | alright then! |
| 05:42.06 | Cryect | I mean I think you are underestimating how esxpensive UpdateCPUusage really is :-p |
| 05:42.18 | Cryect | I mean it takes like 50 ms on my computer |
| 05:42.18 | Shadowed | I'm not just doing this for CPU, it's memory as well =p |
| 05:42.56 | Cryect | which makes it annoying if I have like fuperf running since it polls every second then my framerate drops from 60 fps to 20fps for that 1 frame or whatever |
| 05:43.22 | Shadowed | yeah thats why the OH profiling only runs if you have it opened or else it'd be laggy |
| 05:43.54 | Shadowed | And this is mostly just being picky, but the Create*Graph API's seem a bit whacky. Would be nice if they were something simple like CreateLineGraph(name, parent) and then one API to do the positioning, and another to do height and/or width |
| 05:44.39 | Cryect | Heh |
| 05:45.06 | Cryect | Don't like them being objects? |
| 05:45.59 | Shadowed | Naw It's just a bit confusing trying to tweak things when I have to try to figure out which string is point/relativePoint, and which is x, y, height or width |
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| 05:46.41 | Cryect | Oh that |
| 05:46.58 | Cryect | Yeah I kinda had to initialize it with something |
| 05:47.26 | Cryect | guess I could have chosen to not to do it that way |
| 05:47.40 | Cryect | could set defaults for all that stuff |
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| 05:49.58 | Cryect | Just one of those situations of writing to what I needed/wanted and didn't consider what if someone doesn't want to set those right away (since normally you want to work with them right away but I can agree its more confusing to read the code instead of calling the functions yourself) |
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| 05:50.27 | Shadowed | I do want to work with it right away, it's more just confusing |
| 05:50.28 | Shadowed | and |
| 05:50.37 | Shadowed | LineGraph:AddDataSeries({5, 13, 953},{1.0,0.0,0.0,0.8}) is giving a attempt to index local point |
| 05:50.45 | Shadowed | is it suppose to be {{5, 13, 953}}? |
| 05:51.08 | Cryect | one of those has 3 values |
| 05:51.11 | Cryect | the other has 4 values |
| 05:51.19 | Cryect | oh wait |
| 05:51.29 | Cryect | the first index needs to be a list of a list |
| 05:51.40 | Shadowed | so {{5, 13, 953}}? |
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| 05:51.47 | Cryect | and why does it have 3 dimensions? |
| 05:52.11 | Shadowed | I'm just trying to figure out how to store things to pass it to AddDataSeries |
| 05:52.17 | Shadowed | 5, 13, 953 are just random numbers I made up |
| 05:52.25 | Cryect | okay |
| 05:52.51 | Cryect | You can either pass it as {{x,y},{x,y},{x,y}} or as {{x,x,x,x},{y,y,y,y}} |
| 05:53.01 | Cryect | where x are you x coordinates and y is your y coordinates |
| 05:53.08 | Cryect | whichever way is easier for you to work with |
| 05:53.09 | Shadowed | hrm |
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| 05:54.54 | Cryect | if you want to use the second way I recommend passing true for the third value |
| 05:55.01 | stavmar_ | Xinhuan: Ping |
| 05:55.24 | Cryect | otherwise there is the ambigious case of when you have a list of 2 entries with 2 entries each in them |
| 05:55.40 | Cryect | anyways going to sleep at the moment |
| 05:56.32 | Shadowed | mmkay |
| 05:56.38 | Shadowed | I'll check Recount to see how you do it |
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| 06:03.46 | Silowyi | Zul'jin phase 2... mass dispel viable? |
| 06:04.05 | xyu | yes |
| 06:04.16 | xyu | mark a player w/ a raid icon |
| 06:04.18 | xyu | stack on him |
| 06:14.32 | RaydenUni | i have a bartender problem |
| 06:14.36 | RaydenUni | bar 1 won't page properly |
| 06:14.45 | RaydenUni | it defaults to paging bar 4 |
| 06:14.49 | RaydenUni | i can alt stance change it |
| 06:15.02 | RaydenUni | i mean i can use alt to page something |
| 06:15.07 | RaydenUni | but i can't use stance to page |
| 06:15.16 | RaydenUni | and it won't go to itself when i don't do anything |
| 06:16.01 | RaydenUni | just started doing it for no reason |
| 06:16.06 | RaydenUni | i didn't touch it |
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| 06:18.12 | RaydenUni | augh |
| 06:20.52 | xyu | Finalizing installation, please wait... |
| 06:20.55 | xyu | gogo! |
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| 06:25.34 | RaydenUni | reloading the UI didn't fix it, but restarting wow did... |
| 06:27.08 | basslingo | that usualy happens when a new file is added without restarting wow |
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| 06:27.23 | basslingo | or a filename changes |
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| 06:31.39 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: It needs buttons and actual coloring and such, http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/406/optionhousenp0.png but thats roughly what it's going to look like |
| 06:34.21 | Silowyi | phase 3 Zul'jin, secret to whirlwinds = just being comfortable with the fight? |
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| 06:50.01 | Killmore | Shadowed: what is OptionHouse ? |
| 06:50.53 | CIA-8 | 03arkayenro * r57875 10ArkInventory/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:50.53 | CIA-8 | ArkInventory: |
| 06:50.53 | CIA-8 | - 2.24g |
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| 06:55.29 | pakoz | hey, anyone know how to get this fixed? recap error on start up, mod wont function at all |
| 06:55.30 | pakoz | http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7423/errorjo3.jpg |
| 06:56.34 | pakoz | oh where to go to research the problem? |
| 06:58.45 | Silowyi | well got ZJ on our fourth attempt |
| 06:58.51 | Silowyi | he's so much easier than Malacrass |
| 07:00.58 | pakoz | ah, turns out the author doesnt upload to wowace - and whoever is/did upload it messed up |
| 07:01.05 | pakoz | version from curse works |
| 07:01.06 | pakoz | peace |
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| 07:11.53 | basslingo | -.- hate it when dsl konks out |
| 07:12.13 | basslingo | Anyway did u get ur question answered Killmore? |
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| 07:14.19 | Killmore | basslingo: no ? |
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| 07:15.57 | basslingo | Killmore, OptionHouse is a system used to change settings for various mods at once |
| 07:16.01 | basslingo | it sorts by mod name |
| 07:16.04 | basslingo | then option |
| 07:16.08 | basslingo | then suboption |
| 07:16.20 | Killmore | ok |
| 07:16.26 | basslingo | for example look at TourGuide |
| 07:16.37 | basslingo | tekkub is the author of that |
| 07:17.07 | Tekkub | moo? |
| 07:18.49 | basslingo | Killmore was wondering about OptionHouse |
| 07:20.32 | Killmore | basslingo: available on wau ? |
| 07:21.08 | basslingo | its more of a library, id ask tekkub if he'd help as i've never used it. |
| 07:21.35 | Tekkub | it's on WoWI if you want it, but you don't need it unless you want the MCP bits |
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| 07:38.52 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r754 10/trunk/StealYourCarbon/StealYourCarbon.lua: StealYourCarbon - Fixes #199: StealYourCarbon\StealYourCarbon.lua:13: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") |
| 07:40.55 | _NiC | Is there any website/addon/software that will generate a rating for various classes based on gear/enchants? |
| 07:41.29 | _NiC | (which then can be used as a means to draft (or not) people for certain raids) |
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| 07:51.34 | potemkin | is it possible to change the dots of party members on the minimap? |
| 07:53.08 | basslingo | _Nic, many addons do this, but none use the same rating system\ |
| 07:53.33 | basslingo | for example, tanks can use TankPoints |
| 07:53.43 | basslingo | there is also RatingBuster |
| 07:53.45 | basslingo | and others |
| 07:54.14 | basslingo | but all are based on theorycraft. Gear shouldnt be the main way to draft |
| 07:54.19 | basslingo | Talent should |
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| 07:59.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate vashj |
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| 08:00.45 | basslingo | Well consider urself lucky to have seen her :) I havnt been past the first boss in ZA |
| 08:01.10 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, I do |
| 08:01.21 | NightHawkTheSane | but learning her is still frustrating. :) |
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| 08:22.20 | Pernicius | any SVN admin here? |
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| 08:24.38 | Orionshock | LOL the hell? |
| 08:24.47 | Orionshock | scrub is reporting me a balance... im feral |
| 08:26.06 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.49 | basslingo | heh not as bad as the fact that i cant be pulled up on the armory |
| 08:26.55 | basslingo | Murpd of Madoran |
| 08:26.57 | basslingo | try :P |
| 08:27.05 | CIA-8 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r57876 10Cartographer_Sidelist/Cartographer_Sidelist.lua: |
| 08:27.05 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 08:27.05 | CIA-8 | - implement very basic note throbber to draw attention to notes on the map |
| 08:27.05 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.24 | _NiC | basslingo: I agree, but some kind of starting-point would be nice. |
| 08:28.10 | basslingo | Maybe someone should make a library and get a bunch of mod authors to support its format |
| 08:28.23 | Orionshock | lol basslingo |
| 08:28.24 | basslingo | kinda like the W3C Consortium |
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| 08:30.25 | _NiC | I imagine all raidguilds have placed their raiders into some kind of categories? |
| 08:31.00 | _NiC | I don't really need an addon or anything to do it for me, I just need a fairly good way of doing it, manually or otherwise. :) |
| 08:32.39 | basslingo | Well, each raid leader should be able to do it |
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| 08:38.08 | basslingo | If you use damage meters you can kinda see who is putting out an effort dps wise |
| 08:38.16 | basslingo | even healing wise for that mater |
| 08:38.42 | basslingo | I personaly am just about to start leading a Kara grp for the first time |
| 08:38.57 | Orionshock | good luck basslingo |
| 08:39.04 | basslingo | I have done a full clear grp with my previous team and have noticed a few things |
| 08:39.06 | Orionshock | not for the faint of heart, leading that is |
| 08:39.16 | basslingo | heh, i know . Thanks Orion |
| 08:39.26 | _NiC | leading can be hell sometimes.. :> |
| 08:39.38 | _NiC | but it can also be very fun, when everything works. |
| 08:39.44 | basslingo | for healing make sure they have somewhere near 1.5k bonus heal |
| 08:39.58 | basslingo | (all this is my kara standards) |
| 08:40.19 | Orionshock | last night i was leading a KZ team, doing price. i said in /o "i really don't want the mage/lock token to drop.." because we had a prick of a lock in the group that was loot greedy and a noob mage with us.... |
| 08:40.20 | basslingo | tanks should be close (if not too) 490 def |
| 08:40.21 | _NiC | Last night i took a group into karazhan, first raid after new years, we had 3 "new" raiders with us, and we killed 7 bosses in 3 hours, very smooth run, it was great. :) |
| 08:41.10 | Orionshock | basslingo: if you want good math information about stats, hit up www.wowwiki.com |
| 08:41.25 | basslingo | Orionshock, i go there alot for the stats :) |
| 08:41.40 | _NiC | I think I'll end up making a table of peoples stats, like +heal, +damage, manaregen, defense, armor, dodge, parry, block, crit, and stuff like that |
| 08:41.57 | basslingo | .... i think i remember seeing something that did that |
| 08:42.02 | basslingo | but it was web based |
| 08:42.05 | Orionshock | i had to bitch slap a tree druid with wowwiki's explanation of how druid tanks work in 25man raids... it was bad |
| 08:42.08 | basslingo | and pulled from the armory |
| 08:42.26 | _NiC | the problem with armory is that people have to log out with their raid-gear all the time for it to be accurate |
| 08:42.33 | Orionshock | _NiC: i use spyglass, and keep looking at ppl stuff from that |
| 08:42.36 | basslingo | hehe, Orion i know the feeling |
| 08:42.40 | basslingo | <-- Tank |
| 08:42.41 | _NiC | I wish blizzard would implement gear-sets themselves :-\ |
| 08:42.56 | basslingo | well u could go by item lvl avg |
| 08:43.12 | basslingo | but then that doesnt account for some fights where u need resist gear |
| 08:43.29 | Orionshock | resist fights are not normal |
| 08:43.40 | basslingo | true |
| 08:44.53 | Orionshock | >.> mage tank for gruul's lair, 10.4k HP |
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| 08:46.04 | basslingo | and the Curator fight for the arcane soak |
| 08:46.29 | _NiC | what's the average raid-dps you guys have in places like karazhan? |
| 08:46.45 | basslingo | well, i normaly dont check dps |
| 08:46.55 | basslingo | im woried about dtps |
| 08:47.06 | basslingo | or damage threat /sec |
| 08:47.43 | basslingo | and its about 800-1k threat per sec |
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| 08:57.10 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.21 | Orionshock | ... sometime there bout.. |
| 08:57.59 | Arrowmaster | dont you mean like 2.1 or so |
| 08:58.14 | Orionshock | ya ... sometime there bout |
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| 09:27.15 | basslingo | -.- its a royal pain for the Gbanks too |
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| 09:33.27 | RaydenUni | now that i have a warrior, i can see how limited druid tanks are |
| 09:33.39 | Orionshock | O.o |
| 09:33.55 | basslingo | whow |
| 09:34.03 | basslingo | wait a second there |
| 09:34.13 | basslingo | Druid tanks are almost just as good |
| 09:34.22 | basslingo | BUT they are much better OT's |
| 09:34.37 | basslingo | since if they stack on agi for dodge |
| 09:34.41 | basslingo | and go cat |
| 09:34.47 | basslingo | they can effectivly dps |
| 09:36.01 | FinalX | I have both, and I'm missing stuff from the other class on both. |
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| 09:39.22 | MoonWolf | a druid is a good tank stat wise |
| 09:39.51 | MoonWolf | however compared to the amount of abilities a tricks a warrior brings into the mix, druids are rather , empty |
| 09:40.02 | MoonWolf | now shields walls, no last stances, no x, no y. |
| 09:40.48 | basslingo | well, in some fights handy due to not having to worry about being disarmed |
| 09:40.58 | FinalX | although druids have other (passive) abilities (talents) i'd like on my warrior |
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| 09:41.14 | FinalX | but yeah, both classes bring different stuff into play |
| 09:42.27 | snorks_ | WARNING Omen has a dependency (Dewdrop-2.0) which is not installed locally and cannot be found on the server |
| 09:42.33 | basslingo | Quick idea and im probably to tired to make this make sense but with the Treat-1.0 lib, would it be theoretically possible to identify the target's threat via having a changing variable for each. Such as the CurTime in ms threat was started |
| 09:42.55 | basslingo | not treat threat -.- |
| 09:43.05 | basslingo | wow killed myself at the begining of that |
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| 09:45.17 | basslingo | .... then again how would the client know -.- |
| 09:46.35 | CIA-8 | 03ixchael * r57877 10Historian/Historian.lua: |
| 09:46.35 | CIA-8 | Historian: |
| 09:46.35 | CIA-8 | - Fixed a problem where kills were counted twice when in an instance or a party member got the killing blow. |
| 09:47.02 | MoonWolf | nooo, now i'll kill less fast. |
| 09:47.15 | Ixchael | hehe |
| 09:50.33 | basslingo | what about the UnitIsUnit('unit','other') that bliz gives us..... |
| 09:51.17 | [Ammo] | tsk moonwolf |
| 09:51.34 | Killmore | with ora2, it is possible in a macro to /target mt1 or something like that ? |
| 09:51.36 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: ping on omen above (from snorks_) |
| 09:51.37 | [Ammo] | kill speed is determined by an addon ... |
| 09:51.40 | [Ammo] | Killmore: no |
| 09:52.11 | [Ammo] | but... |
| 09:52.18 | [Ammo] | you can use the keybindings interface |
| 09:52.22 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 09:52.26 | [Ammo] | I never use that |
| 09:53.12 | [Ammo] | I need a new silly project now that my analog clock is kinda done |
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| 09:53.38 | cladhaire | work with JoshBorke on AddonLoader kpls. |
| 09:54.03 | [Ammo] | I hates the addonloader |
| 09:54.07 | [Ammo] | it never worked properly for me |
| 09:54.26 | Xinhuan | cladhaire did you see Shadowed's screenshot on what the cpu graph would look like |
| 09:54.27 | cladhaire | thats why he's rewriting it from scratch |
| 09:54.28 | cladhaire | with no ace |
| 09:54.34 | [Ammo] | hmm |
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| 09:54.50 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: no, link? |
| 09:54.56 | Xinhuan | trying to find it in history |
| 09:55.12 | basslingo | http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/406/optionhousenp0.png |
| 09:55.15 | basslingo | that one? |
| 09:55.17 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 09:55.19 | basslingo | or before that |
| 09:55.19 | Xinhuan | that one |
| 09:55.37 | cladhaire | looks fine to me |
| 09:55.48 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:55.53 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 09:56.08 | [Ammo] | knowing josh that rewrite will take ages |
| 09:56.09 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:56.15 | Xinhuan | i assume the idea is to click on the left side to add/remove datalines to the graph |
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| 09:57.10 | cladhaire | aye |
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| 09:58.54 | basslingo | CalculateAuctionDeposit(runTime) - Returns the required deposit for the current selling item given the specified duration (minutes). Bliz just couldnt make it easy and change it to hrs -.- |
| 09:59.35 | cladhaire | there was at one point a half hour duration imo |
| 10:00.03 | snorks_ | btw, got this error frmo wowacepy |
| 10:00.12 | snorks | WARNING Omen has a dependency (Dewdrop-2.0) which is not installed locally and cannot be found on the server |
| 10:00.22 | snorks | Does anyone know what's up? |
| 10:01.43 | Orionshock | snorks: ya.. you need to get dew drop lib off the files site |
| 10:02.21 | Orionshock | Antiarc: might need to adjust externals on omen to include dew drop |
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| 10:03.52 | Vexir | anyone know what the mod is that makes your buttons look all shiny like? |
| 10:04.00 | Vexir | people in the WoW UI forums use it a lot |
| 10:04.08 | Vexir | im like viewing the screenshots of a lot of UIs |
| 10:04.12 | Orionshock | cycircled |
| 10:04.18 | Vexir | oh |
| 10:04.24 | Vexir | what does eepanels do then |
| 10:05.39 | MoonWolf | make colourfull panels |
| 10:06.13 | Vexir | ..? |
| 10:07.02 | Vexir | what do you mean |
| 10:07.29 | Orionshock | actualy snorks ... no, you need to learn to install mods |
| 10:08.21 | snorks | i didn't do it manually |
| 10:08.33 | snorks | i used wowacepy, which is a python script |
| 10:08.41 | snorks | since im using slackware i couldn't use wau |
| 10:08.46 | Orionshock | WAU2 |
| 10:08.51 | Orionshock | ~wau2 |
| 10:08.52 | purl | [wau2] http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 10:08.54 | Orionshock | try it |
| 10:08.54 | Vexir | is there a way to get macros to not show their text on bars |
| 10:09.04 | basslingo | snorks |
| 10:09.15 | basslingo | u can with the WINE libraries |
| 10:09.45 | snorks | have you tried? |
| 10:09.57 | snorks | do you mean general wine? |
| 10:10.00 | basslingo | im on a mac |
| 10:10.04 | basslingo | i use a diff app |
| 10:10.07 | snorks | because yeah, im using wine. im playing wow |
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| 10:13.50 | Vexir | Darn. Is there a way to remove all my icons from the minimap? I'd prefer to have a clean minimap |
| 10:14.27 | buu | fubar + simpleminimap |
| 10:14.28 | Vexir | i.e. the omen button, the clearfont button, the atlasloot button, the grid button, etc |
| 10:14.40 | Vexir | im using simpleminimap but i dont see where i can remove the addon buttons |
| 10:14.49 | buu | You can't, that's what fubar is for |
| 10:15.07 | basslingo | lol |
| 10:15.12 | basslingo | same combo i use |
| 10:15.13 | basslingo | ;) |
| 10:15.27 | Vexir | oic |
| 10:15.31 | Vexir | ill go delete titan panel then |
| 10:17.37 | Vexir | how do i remove the label from macro buttons? |
| 10:17.55 | [W]LANFiRE | guys, is there any way to open battlemaster queue window by macro function? |
| 10:18.56 | Ixchael | Vexir: Try MinimapButtonBag (MBB). |
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| 10:19.14 | Ixchael | For hiding the buttons |
| 10:23.43 | Vexir | which cycirled skin is this: |
| 10:23.45 | Vexir | http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9802/wowscrnshot102507230910bs5.jpg |
| 10:24.48 | basslingo | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Battlefield_Functions maybe, [W]LANFiRE |
| 10:25.40 | [W]LANFiRE | basslingo: ty |
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| 10:30.15 | Vexir | where can i download cyCircled skins? |
| 10:30.51 | Ixchael | They should come with the addon |
| 10:31.05 | Vexir | yeah i see a couple but i dont see the one used here: |
| 10:31.06 | Vexir | http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9802/wowscrnshot102507230910bs5.jpg |
| 10:31.47 | Ixchael | Perhaps it is a custom-made skin then |
| 10:32.09 | Vexir | nope, i see it on a LOT of UI shots |
| 10:32.35 | Vexir | if you take a look at any of the screenshots in the "post your ui" threads, at least half have that skin |
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| 10:36.03 | Vexir | Is there an addon that helps align things on screen? i.e. centering and such |
| 10:36.34 | Ixchael | Looks like the LiteStep skin to me, which comes with cyCircled? |
| 10:36.40 | buu | Vexir: grid |
| 10:37.04 | Vexir | buu: isnt grid for raid frames |
| 10:37.49 | buu | Eh |
| 10:38.22 | buu | Ok, I was lying, I've forgotten the name. |
| 10:38.29 | Vexir | lol |
| 10:38.42 | Vexir | i tried looking for what some people suggseted on the forums, addon called Align |
| 10:38.44 | Vexir | couldnt find anything |
| 10:38.48 | Vexir | very common word |
| 10:40.22 | Killmore | Align |
| 10:40.25 | Killmore | the name of the addon |
| 10:40.27 | Vexir | right |
| 10:40.32 | Vexir | i cant find any download links for it |
| 10:40.37 | Vexir | because its such a common word |
| 10:40.43 | Vexir | doesnt seem to be on files.wowace.com |
| 10:40.53 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6153-Align.html |
| 10:41.26 | Vexir | ty! |
| 10:41.35 | nevcairiel | you should check wowinterface for mods, wowace doesnt have all.. :P |
| 10:41.44 | haste | lies! |
| 10:41.47 | Vexir | couldnt find a search feature on wowinterace |
| 10:41.52 | haste | everyone puts their addon on wowace |
| 10:41.53 | haste | D: |
| 10:42.08 | nevcairiel | ~lart haste |
| 10:42.08 | purl | executes killall -KILL haste |
| 10:42.09 | Vexir | lol |
| 10:43.08 | Vexir | whats the slash command for the Ace2 config screen? |
| 10:43.21 | [Ammo] | there is no ace2 config screen |
| 10:43.30 | Vexir | er |
| 10:43.38 | Vexir | whats the screw button on my minimap then |
| 10:43.48 | [Ammo] | that's the rock config abomination |
| 10:44.03 | Vexir | ahh |
| 10:44.08 | MoonWolf | feel the love |
| 10:44.14 | basslingo | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warrior_Set_Comparison |
| 10:44.20 | basslingo | That was a nice find :) |
| 10:44.25 | [Ammo] | I'm sorry, it's the wonderfully amazing and not at all intrusive rock config |
| 10:44.35 | evl | liea! |
| 10:44.57 | Vexir | should i not use rock config? |
| 10:45.13 | Pernicius | is an SVN here? |
| 10:45.14 | [Ammo] | you have it, might as well use it |
| 10:45.34 | Pernicius | SVN admin i mean |
| 10:45.46 | [Ammo] | Kaelten handles that |
| 10:45.52 | Pernicius | ah thx |
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| 10:55.18 | Vexir | anyone know an addon that can make my bars countdown timers instead of ugly buttons? |
| 10:56.02 | Ixchael | What do you mean by that? |
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| 10:56.22 | Ixchael | Which bars and what kind of countdown timers? |
| 10:56.46 | Vexir | http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F010308%5F173435.png |
| 10:56.54 | Vexir | look @ top left hand corner |
| 10:57.37 | Stanzilla | ElkBuffBars |
| 10:57.38 | Ixchael | Ahh your buffs and debuffs. I use ElkBuffBars. |
| 10:57.41 | SunTsu | Vexir: You surely mean ElkBuffBars |
| 10:57.47 | Ixchael | ElkBuffBars ElkBuffBars ElkBuffBars |
| 10:57.52 | Ixchael | :) |
| 10:57.55 | SunTsu | Ah, I sense concent ;) |
| 10:57.57 | MoonWolf | he gets it. |
| 10:57.58 | SunTsu | consent |
| 10:59.03 | Vexir | nice. |
| 10:59.06 | Vexir | ty :) |
| 10:59.45 | Orionshock | NeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/z1mcfik3qtw13 |
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| 11:00.47 | Vexir | is DruidBar required for pitbull's feral mana bar to work? |
| 11:00.54 | Vexir | because XPERL was like that |
| 11:00.57 | SunTsu | Vexir: No |
| 11:01.03 | Vexir | ty |
| 11:07.13 | Vexir | what are "movers" in Simple Mini Map? |
| 11:08.31 | Pernicius | with the movers you can drag some frames attached to the minimap |
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| 11:09.04 | Vexir | oh i see them |
| 11:09.09 | Vexir | whats "captureMover" |
| 11:09.26 | Pernicius | don't know |
| 11:09.28 | Xinhuan | capture progress bar in AB/eots/etc flags |
| 11:10.06 | Vexir | ty |
| 11:12.05 | Killmore | Orionshock: omg 6 paladins |
| 11:12.31 | Orionshock | ya... |
| 11:12.45 | Killmore | we use between 2 and 3 paladins |
| 11:13.09 | Killmore | ok, thats different because we need AoE healing (resto shaman + coh priest) |
| 11:13.23 | Stanzilla | Orionshock: your shadowpriest sucks :P |
| 11:13.38 | Orionshock | newb shadowpriest |
| 11:13.42 | Orionshock | it is expected |
| 11:13.58 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 11:16.17 | Orionshock | fk me, first time waltzing into TK, for kicks and giggles & [Seventh Ring of the Tirisfalen] drops |
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| 11:21.26 | Pernicius | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:22.40 | Vexir | what does "tench" mean... group 3 in ellks is named that, but i dont know what its used for |
| 11:22.57 | Nargiddley | temp enchants on weapons |
| 11:23.02 | Orionshock | tracking and weapons stuff |
| 11:26.16 | Xinhuan | Temporary ENCHants that will expire |
| 11:26.30 | Vexir | like Wf |
| 11:26.53 | Vexir | hm, can EBB be used for TARGET debuffs? |
| 11:27.22 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 11:27.26 | Vexir | o.O how |
| 11:27.40 | Nargiddley | create a new group |
| 11:27.51 | Vexir | oh |
| 11:28.00 | Nargiddley | and you can set it to target |
| 11:28.18 | Nargiddley | cant remember the name of the option, but its in the groups config somewhere |
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| 11:29.42 | Kivin | Are the chat bubbles that appear over characters' heads part of the 3d world, or can they be hooked with Lua? |
| 11:29.52 | nevcairiel | thats 3d world |
| 11:29.58 | Kivin | that's too bad |
| 11:30.07 | Kivin | guess the only way to suppress them, then, is the black list |
| 11:30.10 | Lukian | those would be fun to spruce up! |
| 11:30.24 | nevcairiel | Kivin: just disabeld them in interface options ? =P |
| 11:30.34 | Kivin | nevcairiel: =.= |
| 11:30.52 | Orionshock | the chat bubbles i think are the same as the health bars |
| 11:31.11 | Kivin | the nameplates? |
| 11:31.17 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.43 | Kivin | i've seen nameplate addons... i take it they don't change the blizz nameplates and instead just add new ones? |
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| 11:38.00 | Orionshock | Kivin: no they re skin the blizzard ones |
| 11:38.30 | Orionshock | you can target by nameplates so in effect they are secure, and they move in combat so they must be owned by blizzard UI Elements |
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| 11:40.28 | Vexir | How do I change Grid's border and background color? (more specifically, remove them |
| 11:40.52 | Vexir | nvm |
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| 12:40.32 | Xinhuan | dammit, Cataclysm's Edge just dropped again, 4 times in a row, wtf is this shit |
| 12:41.15 | Killmore | haha |
| 12:41.40 | Killmore | I want my legs from archimonde :( he never drop it yet |
| 12:41.54 | Killmore | and no sword for caster |
| 12:47.38 | Xinhuan | also 20797/21000 is my hyjal rep |
| 12:47.45 | Xinhuan | why couldn't we have like, just 1 more wipe on trash |
| 12:48.15 | Xinhuan | 36 rep per wave |
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| 12:48.44 | Killmore | before 2.3 after archimonde was dead |
| 12:48.55 | miro | xin, id like to have your problems ;) we're dealing with kaels last phase atm :P |
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| 12:49.04 | Xinhuan | 5th phase? |
| 12:49.08 | Killmore | tyrande camp are still attack by ghoul and crap |
| 12:49.14 | Xinhuan | 5th phase is usually a one shot |
| 12:49.23 | Xinhuan | if you can reach it |
| 12:49.28 | Killmore | I was able to leech maybe, 200-300 free rep before I decide to leave |
| 12:49.35 | Xinhuan | only condition is your tank must not stand in a nether cloud! |
| 12:49.40 | Xinhuan | or a flamestrike |
| 12:49.44 | miro | shortly before it a few percent missing |
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| 12:50.37 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I got a Lua error in Cartographer_GroupColors |
| 12:51.04 | Killmore | and your healer have to remember to keep the 50% less fire dmg on the tank after each gravity phase |
| 12:51.04 | Xinhuan | i don't use that module lol |
| 12:51.10 | Xinhuan | the coloring sucks |
| 12:51.22 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It's the one that comes with the default Cartographer package! |
| 12:51.27 | Xinhuan | i know, i turn it off |
| 12:51.35 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Just like Cartographer_Waypoints. |
| 12:52.04 | Xinhuan | you find group colors useful or what? |
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| 12:52.22 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It was enabled by default.. |
| 12:52.29 | Xinhuan | i never really saw the usefulness of it |
| 12:52.56 | Xinhuan | it colors people on your map |
| 12:52.59 | Xinhuan | with colors |
| 12:53.07 | Xinhuan | like instead of a green blip |
| 12:53.13 | Xinhuan | you see a pretty circle with (1) |
| 12:53.19 | Xinhuan | indicating its in group 1 |
| 12:54.00 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Ok, but one more question. Why can't I right click on people and select "Report player AFK" during battlegrounds? |
| 12:54.27 | miro | id like to report bots instead of afk players .. |
| 12:54.45 | Xinhuan | because Cartographer is useless and overrode that ability, so you can only do it on the battlefield minimap |
| 12:55.01 | Polarina | Xinhuan: You can't do it on the battlefield minimap! |
| 12:55.08 | Xinhuan | you can |
| 12:55.18 | Xinhuan | right click on blips and "report all the above" |
| 12:55.30 | Polarina | It just does a minimap ping. |
| 12:55.51 | Xinhuan | you have an addon that added theability then for pings |
| 12:55.58 | Xinhuan | because the default UI doesn't let you ping it |
| 12:56.07 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It's the default UI that does the ping!! |
| 12:56.08 | Xinhuan | and you can report people on both maps |
| 12:56.13 | Xinhuan | i don't mean the minimap |
| 12:56.17 | Xinhuan | i said "battlefield minimap" |
| 12:56.27 | Polarina | Oh.. |
| 12:56.27 | Xinhuan | or what is more accurately known as "zone map" now |
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| 13:09.57 | Kivin | sigh wow's default Chat system is frusterating |
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| 13:10.24 | Xinhuan | how so? |
| 13:10.26 | Twist- | there's no shortage of addons to improve the UI |
| 13:10.36 | Xinhuan | its a lot better than every other mmo's chat system i've ever played |
| 13:10.43 | Xinhuan | even if its just "default chat ui" |
| 13:11.44 | Kivin | Just the way it handles all the argN globals is frusterating me |
| 13:12.14 | Kivin | I'm trying to bucket /say messages and pass them all to the event handler at once using a repeating timer, and it just isn't working |
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| 13:12.54 | Zhinjio | Good morning. |
| 13:12.57 | Kivin | o/ |
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| 13:18.44 | Kivin | So... if I preserve the arg1 through arg11 variables, and the CHAT_MSG_* event, wouldn't it stand to reason that I can call the event handler and have the message displayed at a later time? |
| 13:20.11 | vhaarr | yeah, you just need to do it right |
| 13:20.17 | vhaarr | so go read wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 13:20.40 | Kivin | what in the world is that |
| 13:20.50 | Xinhuan | it may cause problems if more than 1 addon tries to do the same thing |
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| 13:22.16 | Kivin | I shut off Prat to reduce the number of "moving parts" in this operation, but it shouldn't matter |
| 13:23.13 | miro | is the addon foreverafk allowed by blizzard? i doubt it |
| 13:26.24 | Kivin | I don't think my copy of FrameXML is accurate to WoW2.3... I'm getting FrameXML errors that aren't consistent to what I see on the said line numbers |
| 13:26.33 | Xinhuan | there's nothing in the TOC that mentions anything about afking |
| 13:26.41 | Xinhuan | and all addons are legal by nature |
| 13:27.11 | Xinhuan | TOU rather |
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| 13:27.53 | Kivin | I suspect it's the sort of thing that'll get patch-nerfed in the future if it gains much appeal |
| 13:28.27 | Xinhuan | even an addon that allows "cross faction chatting" is legal, meaning, the addon is legal, but actually using such it is illegal because it conflicts a TOU about cross-faction chat |
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| 13:30.10 | Kivin | chatframe.lua : 2294 attempt to call 'AddMessage' (a nil value) |
| 13:30.27 | Kivin | 2294 = RemoveChatWindowMessages(chatFrame:GetID(), group); end |
| 13:30.33 | Kivin | -.- |
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| 13:32.26 | kagaro | anyone know of a good way to get the size of a given zone |
| 13:32.30 | kagaro | without using tourist |
| 13:32.53 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57878 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Add Hunter menus. |
| 13:33.11 | Xinhuan | yes, you copy out the values into your own table. |
| 13:33.11 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 13:33.20 | Nargiddley | Kivin, you aren't passing 'this' correctly |
| 13:34.16 | Kivin | Nargiddley: There is no 'this'. |
| 13:34.18 | Xinhuan | but you'll still have to do reverse lookup in non enUS |
| 13:34.22 | Kivin | it's a global function, not a table member |
| 13:34.34 | Nargiddley | 2294 is this:AddMessage(body, info.r, info.g, info.b, info.id); |
| 13:34.40 | Kivin | Nargiddley: I'm not calling AddMessage |
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| 13:35.06 | Nargiddley | http://wdnaddons.com/2307561/FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua |
| 13:35.22 | Kivin | working on getting the 2.3 frame xml |
| 13:35.50 | Xinhuan | what Nargiddley linked IS a 2.3 framexml |
| 13:36.01 | Xinhuan | 2.3.0.7561 to be exact |
| 13:36.07 | Kivin | i know... i'm downloading it. give me a bloody break |
| 13:36.12 | Kivin | please |
| 13:36.17 | Xinhuan | alright, afk :D |
| 13:36.21 | Xinhuan | back into my shell |
| 13:36.28 | Kivin | okay, that one has the correct line on 2294. thanks a bunch |
| 13:36.55 | kagaro | i dont wana tourist since it soo inter linked babble, ace2, rock |
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| 13:36.58 | Xinhuan | kagaro, libtourist-3.0 is libstub though |
| 13:37.08 | Killmore | it is possible with a macro/addon to switch peoples from group ? |
| 13:37.11 | Xinhuan | and so if libbabble-zone3.0 |
| 13:37.13 | Xinhuan | is* |
| 13:37.17 | Kivin | ooookay... now to figure out where that 'this' is coming from. is it safe to set 'this'? |
| 13:37.26 | kagaro | read the code, it required babble-zone, and rock |
| 13:37.38 | Nargiddley | its another global same as arg1..n |
| 13:37.45 | Xinhuan | libtourist doesn't require rock i thought? |
| 13:38.03 | nevcairiel | libtourist was "fixed" to only need babble-zone-3.0 |
| 13:38.05 | nevcairiel | not rock anymore |
| 13:38.12 | Kivin | Nargiddley: Ty again |
| 13:38.24 | Xinhuan | LibTourist-2.0 only requires LibStub("LibBabble-Zone-3.0") |
| 13:38.29 | Xinhuan | rock isn't involved |
| 13:38.30 | Xinhuan | nor ace2 |
| 13:38.50 | Xinhuan | libbabble zone is standalone |
| 13:38.54 | Xinhuan | requires only libstub |
| 13:39.09 | kagaro | my bad i was looking at libtourist-2.0 |
| 13:39.13 | kagaro | err 3.0 |
| 13:39.17 | Kivin | okay, here we go |
| 13:40.45 | Kivin | that works perfect, so far |
| 13:41.04 | Kivin | i think 1 second delay is too long for sending the bucketed messages, though |
| 13:41.18 | Xinhuan | yeah i meant 3.0 |
| 13:41.23 | Xinhuan | not 2.0 |
| 13:41.32 | Xinhuan | all the 3.0 ones are framework independant |
| 13:43.50 | Xinhuan | only 2 babble libraries have been converted to libstub though - Spell and Zone |
| 13:43.54 | Xinhuan | the rest nobody bothered :) |
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| 13:49.55 | Elsia | hmm recount uses boss, race and class but it shouldn't be a hassle to convert those I suppose |
| 13:51.22 | Elsia | is there a wiki on ace2->ace3 porting up yet? |
| 13:51.31 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57879 10/branches/GatherMate/ (11 files in 3 dirs): GatherMate: added tourist externals |
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| 13:54.57 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro 07Libs * r57880 10GatherMate/: GatherMate: fixed external ref for bable zone |
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| 14:04.47 | Xinhuan | kagaro, so far that's just the core recording right? |
| 14:04.51 | kagaro | yup |
| 14:04.51 | Xinhuan | nothing to show on map yet |
| 14:05.06 | kagaro | ive validated in game, mining, herbign and fishing work corectly |
| 14:05.09 | Fisker- | Anyone know where i can read about the TIFF compressions that Microsoft fax viewer supports? |
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| 14:05.16 | kagaro | just updated code for fishing node location |
| 14:05.25 | Xinhuan | so only need to verify Gas |
| 14:05.42 | kagaro | yup, got a guildie who will install gathermate and go harvest a gas cloud |
| 14:05.56 | Xinhuan | still thinking about treasure hmm |
| 14:06.22 | Xinhuan | detection of treasure is exactly the same as fishing nodes |
| 14:06.47 | Fisker- | or should anyone happen to know a free app that supports multiple images in a TIFF file and several compressions? |
| 14:06.54 | Zhinjio | what does gathermate do? |
| 14:07.11 | kagaro | gona be a ace3 based gathering node tracker |
| 14:07.42 | Zhinjio | what will it offer beyond what cartographer does? |
| 14:07.55 | Xinhuan | at the moment, it offers less, because it doesn't do _Treasure |
| 14:08.48 | kagaro | Zhinjio it just gona be lighter, and not have all the bells and whisltes cart has. |
| 14:09.15 | [Ammo] | but why on earth use tourist? |
| 14:09.17 | [Ammo] | it's a bullshit lib |
| 14:09.51 | kagaro | Ammo, did they fix the localzations so a local version of a zone has the ame zone number? |
| 14:10.17 | [Ammo] | zone numbers are irrelevant |
| 14:10.38 | [Ammo] | english names and let babblezone handle trans |
| 14:10.40 | kagaro | for storage, so imports/exports could work |
| 14:10.47 | [Ammo] | english names |
| 14:10.52 | [Ammo] | or keep your own list |
| 14:10.57 | [Ammo] | don't need touristbloat |
| 14:11.04 | kagaro | in reality all im using from tourist is zone yard size |
| 14:11.23 | kagaro | for fishing node locations |
| 14:12.09 | kagaro | give me a better suggestion and Ill do it, i didnt wana add tourist, but i need to be able to figure out 30 yards from the player |
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| 14:14.32 | Xinhuan | ammo, it needs libtourist because it needs the "zone width" of every zone in yards, to shift the fishing node 10 yards away from where you're standing |
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| 14:15.05 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: no it needs a table with those sizes not the full bloat tourist |
| 14:15.17 | Xinhuan | that's what i initially said though |
| 14:15.28 | Xinhuan | [1/4 21:32:25] <kagaro> anyone know of a good way to get the size of a given zone |
| 14:15.28 | Xinhuan | [1/4 21:32:29] <kagaro> without using tourist |
| 14:15.30 | Xinhuan | [1/4 21:33:10] <Xinhuan> yes, you copy out the values into your own table. |
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| 14:16.58 | Xinhuan | in any case, the UI front end of GatherMate to show the icons on the minimap will still need that "yard width of zone" |
| 14:17.17 | Xinhuan | to determine how far to offset the icon in the minimap |
| 14:17.21 | [Ammo] | just keep your own table |
| 14:17.46 | Xinhuan | what do you think of babble zone? |
| 14:17.59 | Xinhuan | for the reverse zone lookup |
| 14:18.02 | [Ammo] | that's a useful one |
| 14:18.13 | Xinhuan | i can't really think of any way around not using babblezone |
| 14:18.24 | [Ammo] | don't support funny languages :) |
| 14:18.29 | [Ammo] | english or gtfo |
| 14:18.39 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 14:18.40 | purl | :/ |
| 14:18.48 | Xinhuan | damn, wiped on prince (kara) |
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| 14:19.09 | Xinhuan | infernal landed LEFT, then landed RIGHT, then landed smack in the MIDDLE |
| 14:19.14 | Xinhuan | then tank panicked |
| 14:19.25 | FinalX | sounds familiar :P |
| 14:20.12 | Xinhuan | he bopped himself in panic |
| 14:20.18 | Xinhuan | apaprently |
| 14:21.03 | [Ammo] | haha nice |
| 14:21.12 | [Ammo] | pala tanks should remove bop from their bars |
| 14:21.43 | Twist- | It's actually pretty useful when tanking.. you just have to macro it properly |
| 14:22.01 | Twist- | so a second keypress does cancelaura |
| 14:23.11 | Twist- | er, I'm thinking DS |
| 14:24.30 | Twist- | bops' only useful if you want to annihilate the lippy enhancement shaman. ;) |
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| 14:29.39 | EvilJohn- | heh |
| 14:29.43 | EvilJohn- | prince fight |
| 14:29.45 | xyu | yeah divine shield has it's uses |
| 14:29.47 | xyu | as a tank |
| 14:29.53 | xyu | break intimidating shout, etc. |
| 14:29.53 | Higdur | I was boosting my friends lvl 25 or so paladin with my own 70 prot paladin in SM cath the other week |
| 14:30.02 | EvilJohn- | we wiped on that fight last week |
| 14:30.16 | Osstia | Prince? Or SM Cath? |
| 14:30.20 | EvilJohn- | been running it since it came out and you can still get a placement that will wipe you |
| 14:30.20 | Higdur | I pulled the whole cathedral by aggroing the boss |
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| 14:30.37 | Higdur | but he did something to get aggro of one, so he thought he'd BoP himself |
| 14:30.46 | Higdur | but had me targeted |
| 14:31.02 | Higdur | that was pretty fun :) |
| 14:31.04 | exor674 | ooops |
| 14:31.12 | Higdur | BAM |
| 14:31.21 | exor674 | flat lvl25? |
| 14:31.25 | EvilJohn- | heh |
| 14:31.33 | Higdur | some 40 or so lvl 40 mobs vs one 25 paladin :) |
| 14:32.21 | Higdur | he did not survive :( |
| 14:33.16 | Higdur | on another note, BoP does ahve uses while tanking, but not by putting it on yourself :) |
| 14:33.24 | Higdur | bonus taunt |
| 14:33.44 | winkiller | yea |
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| 14:39.48 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 14:40.44 | thul | good morning |
| 14:45.21 | AKX | Hey, is there a BC patch required to play BC chars/content? |
| 14:45.32 | AKX | Or is 2.0.0 client + patch enough? |
| 14:45.33 | FinalX | no |
| 14:45.35 | FinalX | yep |
| 14:45.45 | FinalX | or well, bc client i guess |
| 14:46.02 | Twist- | the client is the same regardless. Accounts have to be upgraded. |
| 14:46.14 | Twist- | er |
| 14:46.15 | AKX | Yeah, okay |
| 14:46.22 | Twist- | assuming you installed TBC in the first place |
| 14:46.26 | FinalX | Well, you need to install the BC installer to *play* BC. |
| 14:46.30 | AKX | Err |
| 14:46.40 | AKX | A friend of mine lost her WoW CDs |
| 14:46.42 | FinalX | But you don't need BC installed to see BC chars |
| 14:46.51 | AKX | I'm instructing her to download the WoW installer + the 2.3.0 patch. |
| 14:46.55 | FinalX | AKX: I've got the installers online. |
| 14:47.08 | AKX | So you DO need the BC installer? |
| 14:47.20 | FinalX | Yeah, rethinking what I just wrote, you do. |
| 14:47.39 | Twist- | blizzard made the whole game available for DL a while back though.. I've never tried using that installer |
| 14:48.07 | AKX | Ah yeah, http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/WoW-BurningCrusade-enGB-Installer-full-downloader.torrent |
| 14:48.49 | SunTsu | AKX: Do you trust wirebrain enough to get executables from them? |
| 14:49.04 | AKX | SunTsu, that's the original torrent, just mirrored on wirebrain. |
| 14:49.25 | AKX | Besides, SunTsu... _I'm_ not downloading it, a friend is :D |
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| 14:51.38 | FinalX | Twist-: They no longer have the direct download though, and it's slow as hell, which is why I built a mirror in the first place ^^ |
| 14:52.05 | FinalX | (You can verify the downloads with the official Blizzard downloader anyway) |
| 14:55.55 | Polarina | I saw a player in-game walking through a wall!!! |
| 14:56.13 | winkiller | lag - impossible is nothing |
| 14:56.44 | Polarina | A entire building! |
| 14:56.53 | Polarina | No, straight through it! |
| 14:57.09 | thul | mhm |
| 14:57.32 | Polarina | I really did. |
| 14:58.03 | AKX | Polarina, you might want to drop the Peacebloom for a while, okay? |
| 14:58.16 | FinalX | XD |
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| 15:01.56 | Uhuru | Hi, what's the command to configure SmartyCat please ? |
| 15:03.23 | haste | there are none |
| 15:03.37 | Uhuru | how ton configure it ? |
| 15:04.00 | haste | you don't |
| 15:04.06 | Fisker- | Anyone know any software based on Kofax VRS for barcode recognition and batch processing? |
| 15:04.30 | Uhuru | i have installed it and nothing appear when i morph to cat or bear ... |
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| 15:10.13 | Uhuru | how to make smartycat working please ? |
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| 15:15.35 | SunTsu | Uhuru: You might want to install SmartyCatBar |
| 15:16.55 | alext | AKK: I am way behind on your convo it seems but you can DL the software right from blizzard |
| 15:16.58 | alext | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/bc-clientdownload.html |
| 15:17.06 | alext | you have to be logged into account management to get it |
| 15:17.42 | SunTsu | Uhuru: It's SmartyCatManaBar, I saw right now |
| 15:18.10 | Uhuru | SunTsu it is installed and activate |
| 15:18.44 | Zhinjio | is there a website that shows who can do rare craftables across all servers? |
| 15:18.47 | Uhuru | oh i must install the tow add ons so |
| 15:19.05 | Zhinjio | if not, I think I may do that one. |
| 15:19.08 | Zhinjio | that would be great. |
| 15:19.27 | Zhinjio | something like... wow-craftables.org or something |
| 15:19.29 | thul | CHO... ok, I'l drop it |
| 15:19.30 | thul | :-P |
| 15:19.43 | Zhinjio | wow-crafting.org? wowcrafting.org |
| 15:20.51 | Zhinjio | I don't see any sites out there that list them, just forum links. |
| 15:20.55 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57882 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Fix X-Embeds and OptDeps for DewDrop (addon name instead of lib name, sayeth the spec) |
| 15:20.58 | Zhinjio | what do you guys think... would you use it? |
| 15:21.02 | Zhinjio | if it existed? |
| 15:21.07 | Kemayo | snorks: ^^^ That'll fix the script error you complained of. |
| 15:22.23 | chiper | Zhinjio: how would you detect it? |
| 15:22.44 | Zhinjio | people would upload CharacterProfiler files, or just add their names in manually |
| 15:22.49 | chiper | armory shows skill level, but not what recipies |
| 15:22.51 | Zhinjio | you'd have to volunteer your data |
| 15:23.04 | Zhinjio | just like people do currently on the forum posts |
| 15:23.21 | chiper | eh, you might get a small group of people |
| 15:23.26 | Zhinjio | nearly every server has a "rare craftables" post that everyone throws in and maintains |
| 15:23.44 | Zhinjio | its in your best interest to have it centralized so everyone can find you |
| 15:23.51 | chiper | the trick would be advertising it |
| 15:23.53 | Zhinjio | if you want the business, so to speak |
| 15:23.55 | Zhinjio | right |
| 15:24.02 | Zhinjio | I think it would grow in usage virally, honestly |
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| 15:24.13 | Zhinjio | once a few key people start using it.... it spreads rapidly after that |
| 15:24.21 | chiper | sure, once you reach a critical mass of users |
| 15:25.10 | Zhinjio | technically none of it is really all that hard |
| 15:25.14 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57883 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua GatherMate.lua Libs/): GatherMate: removed touristlib from externals and added self lookup table |
| 15:25.25 | chiper | no, it'd be a realatively easy database to maintain |
| 15:25.28 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 15:25.42 | Zhinjio | once you had all the craftable items in the db, its almost trivial. |
| 15:26.02 | Zhinjio | yeah, I think I'm going to do it. It'll be fun. |
| 15:26.05 | Zhinjio | Or something. |
| 15:26.06 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:26.10 | chiper | craftables table, server table, character table, all linked together. toss in an "alts" table for contact info |
| 15:26.22 | Zhinjio | good point. |
| 15:26.36 | chiper | hah |
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| 15:28.28 | chiper | feedback might not be a bad idea. "This guy was a douche, over charge, would not buy again" |
| 15:29.27 | SunTsu | chiper: That sounds like a good idea until you look at what happens on ebay... |
| 15:29.37 | chiper | hehe |
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| 15:35.44 | Zhinjio | ok, domain registered. |
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| 15:37.02 | winkiller | what? |
| 15:37.27 | winkiller | Zhinjio: wowwiki centralized crafting postsd already, btwe |
| 15:37.37 | winkiller | and it works for at least 30% of realms already |
| 15:37.44 | winkiller | *wild guess** |
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| 15:38.08 | winkiller | and there are already some pages |
| 15:38.12 | winkiller | wowcraftables.com? no clue |
| 15:39.46 | Zhinjio | can you point me to where that is? |
| 15:39.55 | Zhinjio | the wowwiki thing? |
| 15:39.58 | Zhinjio | I can't see it on the site |
| 15:40.36 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57884 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc localization-deDE.lua): |
| 15:40.36 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 15:40.36 | CIA-8 | 3.2.1 |
| 15:40.36 | CIA-8 | Fixed: Battlegroup scan sometimes stopped to work |
| 15:40.36 | CIA-8 | Feature: /abh show, when inside a battleground, resize the window to it's standard height |
| 15:40.41 | kagaro | ok now taking suggestions for a compression format to store id:x:y |
| 15:41.22 | winkiller | Zhinjio: sec |
| 15:41.24 | thul | sit |
| 15:41.37 | winkiller | on every server page |
| 15:41.42 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Aggramar_Europe/Crafters |
| 15:41.44 | winkiller | for example |
| 15:42.02 | winkiller | and there are at least 2 other dedicated sited |
| 15:42.06 | winkiller | *sites |
| 15:42.09 | winkiller | but I forgot the names |
| 15:42.53 | winkiller | Zhinjio: http://www.realmhistory.net/aerie-peak/24/rarecrafts.html |
| 15:42.58 | Zhinjio | that doesn't scale well. |
| 15:43.05 | winkiller | well, it works |
| 15:43.13 | winkiller | and you don't need an extra acc |
| 15:43.20 | winkiller | and everyone can update it |
| 15:43.33 | Zhinjio | we'll see, I guess. |
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| 15:43.47 | winkiller | yeah, good luck :) |
| 15:44.17 | winkiller | but I'll stay with wowwiki, also because I partly organized my server list there |
| 15:44.20 | Zhinjio | I'll add it to the long and growing list of projects I've done that noone ever uses. *grin* |
| 15:44.30 | winkiller | hehe, yea |
| 15:44.39 | winkiller | http://wicca.art-core.org |
| 15:44.48 | winkiller | *I* use it at least, and was fun to do |
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| 15:55.09 | Zhinjio | winkiller: nice |
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| 15:55.21 | winkiller | lol thanks, first person not to say "duh" :P |
| 15:55.27 | Amadeo | duh! |
| 15:55.39 | Amadeo | What'd I miss? |
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| 15:56.30 | Amadeo | Any must-have Druid addons? |
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| 15:59.15 | Matrix110 | There arent must-have Addons :P |
| 16:01.57 | Mjrn | depends on your playstyle, amadeo. |
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| 16:02.37 | Amadeo | Well, I use a mouse and keyboard |
| 16:02.42 | Amadeo | ;) |
| 16:02.44 | Mjrn | are you a raider? |
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| 16:02.47 | Mjrn | .... |
| 16:02.52 | Amadeo | Right now I'm leveling |
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| 16:03.36 | Amadeo | 21, actually! I'm a kitty |
| 16:03.43 | Mjrn | if you are leveling as a kitty on a PVe server, you don't really need anything |
| 16:03.48 | Amadeo | PvP! |
| 16:04.21 | Mjrn | then a mid that shows your mana in kitty form us helpful |
| 16:04.28 | Mjrn | is* |
| 16:04.36 | Amadeo | Yeah, I was thinking about that actually |
| 16:04.44 | thul | Pkekyo| loves my ui |
| 16:04.59 | Amadeo | Druids are pretty fun, I wonder what level I'll really start leveling fast though...I don't have many kitty moves yet |
| 16:06.12 | Mjrn | you don't get a ton until after 55 |
| 16:06.20 | Zhinjio | ok, domain all points to the right place. |
| 16:06.24 | Zhinjio | tada. |
| 16:06.26 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 16:08.29 | Mjrn | I leveled feral, it really was the most efficient to me, since I always had mana available to heal myself instead of wasting it on spells |
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| 16:11.18 | Pkekyo| | thul: what the bloody hell you on about? |
| 16:11.21 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Well, with kitty at hand you will start leveling faster. Even faster after hitting level 30, but that's due to the leveling changes |
| 16:12.00 | Amadeo | Yeah, I'm looking forward to 30+ |
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| 16:14.50 | Pkekyo| | I can't level 30+ on my shammy :< |
| 16:14.54 | thul | Pkekyo|: haha |
| 16:14.59 | thul | Pkekyo|: just joking :-P |
| 16:15.02 | Pkekyo| | blizzard keeps popping rollbacks on him, bumping him down to 28 |
| 16:15.03 | thul | you hate my ui:D |
| 16:15.24 | thul | my shaman is nearing 64 now :-P |
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| 16:15.36 | Pkekyo| | geif lvl 40+ shaman |
| 16:15.50 | Pkekyo| | then I won't have to level another warr as fury to DW :p |
| 16:15.57 | SunTsu | Amadeo: http://www.wowwiki.com/Druid_tactics |
| 16:16.39 | thul | hehe |
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| 16:16.45 | thul | well, wf-enhancement is so fun |
| 16:17.03 | Pkekyo| | wish blizz would stop rollbacking my shammy :< |
| 16:17.09 | thul | have you talked to them? :-P |
| 16:17.14 | Laric | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.19 | Laric | do |
| 16:17.23 | SunTsu | I am proud, my fourth alt dinged lvl 50 yesterday. Just 4 times 10 levels to lvl 60 and then the real fun begins ;) |
| 16:17.56 | thul | haha |
| 16:17.57 | Pkekyo| | thul: nah, can't get a bloody GM |
| 16:17.59 | thul | good one Laric :-P |
| 16:18.01 | Polarina | SunTsu: No multiboxing! |
| 16:18.02 | thul | Pkekyo|: mail? |
| 16:18.04 | Pkekyo| | takes bloody ages |
| 16:18.23 | thul | I have one 44, one 63, one 64 and one 70:p |
| 16:18.26 | SunTsu | Polarina: No, I iterate througj them, so I always have enough rested state |
| 16:18.27 | thul | I'm starting to get nerdish |
| 16:18.37 | SunTsu | s/gj/gh/ |
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| 16:20.03 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with multiboxing? |
| 16:20.09 | thul | it is nerdish |
| 16:20.13 | Ellipsis | it's way faster though :< |
| 16:20.19 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: It's expensive ;) |
| 16:20.42 | Ellipsis | it is? |
| 16:22.02 | thul | "multi" implies expensiveness |
| 16:22.02 | thul | yes |
| 16:22.23 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Sure, you have to have an account for every char you are playing. So I'd need 4 accounts, four computers, at least four screens and keyboard multiplexers |
| 16:22.51 | SunTsu | Better even five of it, so I can use my main to help them |
| 16:23.00 | Ellipsis | I see... |
| 16:23.13 | Ellipsis | I dunno, seems most people have a few wow-capable computers lying around |
| 16:23.17 | Higdur | nah, one or two computers is fine |
| 16:23.20 | exor674 | SunTsu: or you know, a very very very powerful computer that can run 4 instances of WoW at once |
| 16:23.28 | Higdur | just put some chars on follow in the background |
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| 16:23.55 | Higdur | but 4-5 accounts you would need yes |
| 16:24.01 | SunTsu | Higdur: Well, that's not what I think of when I want to do multiboxing. I would want to play them all at once |
| 16:24.29 | Higdur | then you'll need 8 hands too :) |
| 16:24.46 | Pkekyo| | EllipsisI dunno, seems most people have a few wow-capable computers lying around <---- where the flying fuck do you live? :p I wanna escape the real world and live there too :p |
| 16:24.49 | SunTsu | .o0( The most expensive would be a new brains, though, in case my current one gets fried while multiboxing ) |
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| 16:25.11 | Higdur | Pkekyo|: take the blue pill |
| 16:25.21 | SunTsu | Higdur: No, you can use keyboard multiplexers and macros |
| 16:25.33 | Pkekyo| | Higdur: the one with the smileyface on? |
| 16:25.41 | Higdur | Pkekyo|: \o/ |
| 16:25.50 | thul | [17:23:00] < Ellipsis> I dunno, seems most people have a few wow-capable computers lying around |
| 16:25.53 | thul | hahahahahaha |
| 16:26.03 | SunTsu | Higdur: So doing one action will trigger a similar thing on every WoW instance |
| 16:26.12 | Higdur | true |
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| 16:26.47 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Well, most computers nowadays are WoW capable, just not on good quality |
| 16:26.59 | SunTsu | Still playable |
| 16:27.08 | Higdur | for a while around 50ish on my pally I tagged on a friends priest on follow on my laptop |
| 16:27.16 | Higdur | with the mouse on the flash heal button |
| 16:27.33 | Higdur | so I could just bash the laptop when I needed a heal while aoe farming :) |
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| 16:27.51 | Higdur | cheap form of multiboxing? :) |
| 16:28.07 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: but "most people" don't have several comps lying 'round |
| 16:28.38 | Amadeo | SunTsu: Thank ya |
| 16:28.53 | Amadeo | I wish I could multibox :( |
| 16:29.00 | Amadeo | Don't have enough arms! |
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| 16:30.35 | Amadeo | I actually have no idea how people do it, I guess with lots of macros or something |
| 16:30.42 | Amadeo | Some people seem to play great when they multibox |
| 16:31.40 | Higdur | Amadeo: like SunTsu said :) |
| 16:32.12 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Well, keyboard multiplexer, having macros trigger the functions you want on the according account. It takes some work to set it up carefully |
| 16:32.38 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: several computers, one or several linked keyboard |
| 16:32.41 | Pkekyo| | +s |
| 16:32.48 | Amadeo | I guess those work without having to switch something for each computer? |
| 16:33.12 | SunTsu | It really would be fun, having my 70's feral druid tank for my 4 50's DD ;) |
| 16:33.22 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 16:33.46 | Amadeo | I've seen a few fun videos of a quad boxer soloing heroics |
| 16:33.59 | Lukian | How would I reset the swstats unilog position ingame? |
| 16:34.03 | Lukian | without relogging |
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| 16:35.02 | kagaro | did they remove the ability to have multiple save variables? |
| 16:35.21 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Sure, you have one keyboard connected to as many machines you have, so the same keys go out to every one |
| 16:35.35 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: saw some guy quadboxing with elemental shamans in arena.... 2k+ rating :p |
| 16:35.58 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Then you just set up the different accounts to do different things with those keys |
| 16:36.09 | Higdur | Pkekyo|: yeah, that one was pretty cool :) |
| 16:36.24 | Pkekyo| | I would've cried if I met that team :p |
| 16:36.32 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Fourc elemental shamans sounds like Ellay ;) |
| 16:36.35 | kagaro | Ammo |
| 16:36.44 | Amadeo | Nice! |
| 16:36.49 | kenlyric | why does cart_waypoints hate me? |
| 16:37.03 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: They wouldn't have been names Allii, Allie and such? ;) |
| 16:37.08 | SunTsu | nemd even |
| 16:37.10 | Higdur | does bloodlust stack btw? :) |
| 16:37.14 | SunTsu | named, god dammit |
| 16:37.36 | kagaro | crud, ok i see whats its doing |
| 16:37.40 | kenlyric | [2008/01/04 11:33:34-187-x676]: Cartographer_Waypoints-2.0\Waypoints.lua:960: attempt to index global 'waypointFrame' (a nil value) |
| 16:37.42 | Higdur | SunTsu: that's the one |
| 16:38.04 | Higdur | kenlyric: yeah, that's annoying |
| 16:38.17 | kenlyric | and then 20 million [2008/01/04 11:33:34-187-x676]: Cartographer_Waypoints-2.0\Waypoints.lua:960: attempt to index global 'waypointFrame' (a nil value) |
| 16:38.24 | SunTsu | Higdur: Ellay, some kind of multiboxing pioneer |
| 16:38.26 | kenlyric | it seems related to the waypoints tourguide is setting. |
| 16:38.45 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: yes, that's the ones |
| 16:39.13 | SunTsu | Read an interview with him, which got me hooked on the idea of multiboxing, sadly I cannot afford it |
| 16:39.20 | kenlyric | it also highlights all of my empty bartender slots. |
| 16:39.31 | Higdur | kenlyric: yup, basicly if you have a waypoint running when you login it bugs out |
| 16:39.39 | exor674 | on my battlegroup there's someone who has like 6aaccounts I think |
| 16:39.42 | exor674 | or bots or something |
| 16:39.45 | kenlyric | but I can't seem to clear the waypoint to make it stop |
| 16:39.50 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: linkage? :p |
| 16:39.58 | exor674 | but like 5 warlocks, 1 priest run in a group together |
| 16:40.01 | exor674 | attacking together |
| 16:40.27 | exor674 | and 4xCurse of Agony + Curse of Shadows really really really hurts in BGs |
| 16:40.44 | Higdur | kenlyric: it stops when you complete the next part |
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| 16:41.46 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Was in german, some printed publishment |
| 16:42.25 | Pkekyo| | doh :< |
| 16:42.37 | Pkekyo| | would've been really interesting |
| 16:42.45 | Amadeo | Someone should raid-box |
| 16:42.50 | Amadeo | 25 man, 40 man |
| 16:42.51 | Amadeo | lol |
| 16:43.11 | SunTsu | exor674: A guild mate has 2 two accounts, one elemental shaman, one off warrior, but he has to switch keyboards and mice ;) |
| 16:43.37 | Higdur | Amadeo: wasn't there some american that did that in mc some time ago? |
| 16:43.42 | Amadeo | I have no idea |
| 16:43.43 | Higdur | like, before tbc |
| 16:43.52 | Amadeo | If so, I want to see! |
| 16:43.58 | SunTsu | Amadeo: There are guys who do that. 10 boxes is not quite that uncommon, though |
| 16:44.05 | Higdur | I seem to remember something like that |
| 16:44.17 | Higdur | anyway, I'm off now |
| 16:44.47 | thul | ding 64 :-P |
| 16:46.35 | SunTsu | thul: grats |
| 16:46.42 | thul | bah, not used not having flying mount :-( just ran off scryers tier :-P |
| 16:46.44 | thul | thanks SunTsu :-) |
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| 16:47.55 | Pkekyo| | congrats thul |
| 16:48.05 | Pkekyo| | rofl thul |
| 16:48.37 | thul | :-) |
| 16:48.38 | thul | thanks |
| 16:49.51 | Pkekyo| | couldn't you see the difference between your mount and a flyer? :p |
| 16:50.05 | kenlyric | anyone know what would cause all of my empty bartender buttons to have the yellow border around them, like I'm actively clicking on them? |
| 16:50.11 | kenlyric | it goes away when I click on them. |
| 16:51.04 | thul | habit:P |
| 16:51.11 | SunTsu | kenlyric: I don't understand the concept. What do you mean by "empty"? |
| 16:51.28 | kenlyric | they don't have a an action button in them. |
| 16:52.06 | kenlyric | thul: try doing that off aldor tier. always horrible. |
| 16:52.12 | SunTsu | Ah, I remember, I heard of something like that, never new it really existed ;) |
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| 16:56.24 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: you using bar paging? |
| 16:56.36 | kenlyric | on stance change, yes. |
| 16:56.44 | kenlyric | but only one bar. |
| 16:57.58 | Pkekyo| | and the yellow borders apply to several bars? |
| 16:58.29 | kenlyric | all the bars |
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| 16:59.37 | Pkekyo| | huh |
| 17:00.12 | Pkekyo| | I noticed the phenomenon when I started using paging on the bar on which my stance buttons are....haven't seen it elsewhere though |
| 17:02.16 | FinalX | thul: I have that too, but you can't die from falling off of Scryer's Tier if you're at full health, Aldor one is higher though, and you'll most likely die from there at full health :P |
| 17:02.57 | kenlyric | I just did a /rl, and when it came back they were all yellow again. |
| 17:02.58 | kenlyric | very odd. |
| 17:03.24 | kenlyric | and paged bars are fine. |
| 17:03.35 | kenlyric | (my beserker bar has fewer action buttons than the my battle one. |
| 17:05.08 | thul | hmm, maybe it was aldor :-P |
| 17:05.14 | thul | this is an alt, I don't really know :-P |
| 17:05.18 | thul | kenlyric: yeah:) |
| 17:05.25 | thul | hmm, i read finalx as "final fax" |
| 17:05.34 | kenlyric | final fax XI |
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| 17:07.18 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric(my beserker bar has fewer action buttons than the my battle one. <--- why? :p |
| 17:07.28 | kenlyric | because i'm level 31? |
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| 17:08.15 | thul | "final fax" is a quite common thing in Dan Simmons' books :-P |
| 17:08.20 | thul | but I guess not man here have read them :-) |
| 17:08.22 | Estil | wtb ddr supernova 2 + pump it up nx in this backwater town |
| 17:08.23 | thul | many |
| 17:08.55 | Osstia | can you not buy it online Estil? |
| 17:09.10 | Estil | I mean the actual machines :( |
| 17:09.14 | Osstia | ohh |
| 17:09.17 | Osstia | makes sense |
| 17:09.56 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: oh...makes sense then..I guess |
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| 17:10.19 | thul | hmm, btw: vanguard - any good? |
| 17:10.31 | kenlyric | the buttons exclusive to the stance I keep on that bar (and heroic strike). |
| 17:11.01 | Estil | thul: don't people say anything hosted by sony eventually goes to crap? :p |
| 17:11.25 | Pkekyo| | http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg more or less my bar setup...that was a while ago though...fuglier UI than now and I was also prot at the tiem :p |
| 17:11.30 | Pkekyo| | s/tiem/time/ |
| 17:12.48 | Pkekyo| | been looking for somewhere else to put the bars, but so far I've just failed at it :p |
| 17:13.02 | Lukian | which moveanything addons function still? |
| 17:13.20 | Pkekyo| | maybe moveanything? |
| 17:13.32 | Lukian | hehe :D |
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| 17:16.16 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r57885 10WoWEquip/ (5 files): |
| 17:16.16 | CIA-8 | WoWEquip: |
| 17:16.17 | CIA-8 | -Add local Start & stop |
| 17:16.17 | CIA-8 | -fix Druid's ZG Idols name Animist's Careass ==>Animist's Caress |
| 17:16.17 | CIA-8 | -Update zhCN local |
| 17:16.28 | Estil | I wonder how well people will play if people were forced to use default ui only during arena |
| 17:16.31 | Estil | and no addons |
| 17:16.58 | Pkekyo| | Estil: shitty as hell? :p |
| 17:17.12 | Estil | but somebody's gotta come on top right? |
| 17:17.29 | Pkekyo| | prolly |
| 17:17.30 | kenlyric | odd, that bug only appears on my warrior, not on my mage. |
| 17:17.57 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: do you use bar paging on your mage? |
| 17:18.02 | kenlyric | nope |
| 17:18.11 | Estil | I want to see it happen |
| 17:18.19 | Pkekyo| | bingo, yatzy, whatever...you found your answer :p |
| 17:18.20 | Estil | 2.4: Arena now forces no addons+default ui for everybody. |
| 17:18.30 | kenlyric | that's not really an answer :) |
| 17:18.30 | Pkekyo| | Estil: in offline tournaments you can |
| 17:18.41 | kenlyric | that's more of a possible bug location :) |
| 17:18.49 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
| 17:19.16 | Estil | it should be forced in normal wow too! |
| 17:19.25 | Pkekyo| | why? |
| 17:19.32 | kenlyric | you get the hell out of my house |
| 17:20.02 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57886 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua GatherMate.lua GatherMate.toc): GatherMate: working out storage |
| 17:20.15 | Pkekyo| | some people manage to use the current state of technology to their advantage...great for them! they deserve it |
| 17:20.23 | Estil | lol |
| 17:20.24 | Estil | :( |
| 17:20.34 | kenlyric | I also don't wash my clothes on a rock in the river. |
| 17:20.37 | Pkekyo| | you're not serious about this, are you? |
| 17:21.10 | kenlyric | mining really needs to be sped up. |
| 17:21.16 | SunTsu | Estil: Well, there is no "I win!"-addon, therefore using addons is no crime ;) |
| 17:21.38 | Estil | I think it'd be very interesting |
| 17:22.02 | thul | Estil: that might be:P |
| 17:22.08 | SunTsu | As a druid I couldn't really play without something to keep track of my equipment and switch it. WoW would absolutely unplayable to me |
| 17:22.18 | Estil | well |
| 17:22.21 | Estil | it's only for arena |
| 17:22.23 | Pkekyo| | I think it'd be interesting to see you wash your clothes on a rock in the river, to use kenlyric's example...go out, do it and post on youtube! |
| 17:22.26 | thul | current screenshot Pkekyo| ? :-P |
| 17:22.28 | Estil | and after arena starts you can't swap other than weapons anyway |
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| 17:22.35 | Pkekyo| | thul: don't have one |
| 17:22.55 | SunTsu | Estil: "Estil> it should be forced in normal wow too!" |
| 17:23.07 | Estil | yea I was answering to how it already is that way in offline tournament |
| 17:23.12 | Estil | so it should also be applied to normal wow |
| 17:23.19 | Estil | not the whole game |
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| 17:24.25 | Pkekyo| | stop taking the piss here, it shouldn't |
| 17:24.54 | Estil | just saaying it'd be interesting, that's all :D |
| 17:25.09 | Estil | anyhow |
| 17:25.12 | Estil | how is everybody this morning! |
| 17:25.32 | Pkekyo| | it'd still be the same....the ones who adapted to using addons to their advantage would adapt to playing without addons as well |
| 17:25.34 | Amadeo | Fabulous! |
| 17:25.48 | Pkekyo| | I'm bloody sexy, that's how I am! |
| 17:26.05 | Amadeo | Do you need a band-aid? :( |
| 17:26.13 | Pkekyo| | and now I'm bleeding like hell...brb |
| 17:26.17 | Estil | lol |
| 17:26.19 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: yes, actually, I do :p |
| 17:26.23 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:26.46 | Estil | when someone says fabulous I can't help but imagine a male belf flexing and going "Oh I'm so fabulous!" |
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| 17:28.18 | SunTsu | Estil: Playing without addons would be a minor inconvenience, I just wouldn't like the way my UI looks and I would miss the information it gives me. |
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| 17:29.11 | Estil | I do have to say after playing wow |
| 17:29.15 | Amadeo | I can't play without a UI these days |
| 17:29.16 | Estil | I wish all other mmos had such customizability |
| 17:29.42 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Well, without would be a problem, right, but blizzard always had one ;) |
| 17:29.43 | Amadeo | I went back and played some older MMOs, they're terrible to play after playing WoW |
| 17:29.49 | Amadeo | haha, ok ok, custom |
| 17:30.34 | Pkekyo| | meh, I fucking hate getting blood on my clothes :< |
| 17:30.46 | Amadeo | I thought that was the style in Norway! |
| 17:30.53 | Estil | o_O; |
| 17:30.55 | kenlyric | it was the style at the time. |
| 17:30.56 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 17:31.04 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 17:31.12 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: we're MODERN vikings now :p |
| 17:31.13 | SunTsu | I customized my UI just recently, and I still have problems adjusting ;) Always forget to look at my HUD and staring at where the default character frames were ;) |
| 17:31.20 | Amadeo | No! That destroys my image |
| 17:31.26 | Amadeo | I don't want to see vikings on computers |
| 17:31.32 | Amadeo | I want to see battle axes and screaming |
| 17:31.45 | Pkekyo| | we've got rifles and screaming now |
| 17:31.53 | Amadeo | boooo! |
| 17:32.20 | Amadeo | Like some 300 lb 7 foot tall hairy guy that somehow jumps out of a tree and clobbers someone |
| 17:32.33 | Amadeo | with a horned helmet on |
| 17:32.38 | Pkekyo| | lmao |
| 17:32.47 | kenlyric | i saw a porn like that once. |
| 17:33.11 | Amadeo | Lets leave Ron Jeremy out of this |
| 17:33.42 | Pkekyo| | L M F A O kenlyric |
| 17:34.19 | Pkekyo| | kinkyass bastard |
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| 17:34.56 | kenlyric | wait, what? |
| 17:35.00 | Pkekyo| | the only ones running around killing eachother with large bladed weapons in norway now are the bloody pakistani and asian gangs |
| 17:35.02 | kenlyric | it's not my fault what's on the internet. |
| 17:35.25 | Pkekyo| | yes it is |
| 17:35.59 | exor674 | .... |
| 17:36.05 | exor674 | how can a lvl43 discover flasks? |
| 17:36.05 | Amadeo | Asians in Norway? My fantasy is disappearing |
| 17:36.45 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: norwegian immigration politics are a bloody fucking poor joke |
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| 17:37.36 | chiper | uhg, I could play without my addons, not my high level toons at least. need the buttonbars |
| 17:38.21 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: If I move to Norway, I'm bringing back the old days |
| 17:38.24 | Ozguli | also threat meter is cool |
| 17:38.33 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: would love that |
| 17:38.55 | Amadeo | Rob a bank with plate armor on and a bastard sword |
| 17:38.58 | chiper | erm, could NOT play |
| 17:39.25 | Ozguli | Amadeo a spear |
| 17:39.42 | Ozguli | or shortsword + chain mail |
| 17:40.00 | Amadeo | So I'd be a Hunter? |
| 17:40.10 | Ozguli | just more mobile |
| 17:40.27 | Amadeo | I didn't think they were mobile, they just smash everything in the way! |
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| 17:42.03 | Ozguli | plate armors often look horrible |
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| 17:42.12 | Ozguli | and you sweat all the time in them |
| 17:42.18 | Amadeo | Not on female Paladins, they're practically naked! |
| 17:42.23 | Zariel | What causes Internal Bag Error? |
| 17:42.27 | Ozguli | RL != wow |
| 17:42.34 | Amadeo | What! Blasphemy! |
| 17:42.54 | Amadeo | Plate thongs for life |
| 17:42.55 | Pkekyo| | !=? |
| 17:43.00 | Pkekyo| | lmfao Amadeo |
| 17:43.07 | Ozguli | not equal |
| 17:43.13 | kenlyric | learn2C! |
| 17:43.16 | Pkekyo| | thought that was =/= ? |
| 17:43.23 | kenlyric | learn2perl! |
| 17:43.38 | _rane | lol =/= |
| 17:43.38 | Ozguli | on paper it's =/= |
| 17:44.17 | _rane | ≠actually |
| 17:44.32 | Pkekyo| | fu, special characters sucks |
| 17:44.41 | kenlyric | this is the internet, C is your god and perl is your master. |
| 17:44.45 | kenlyric | != or die |
| 17:45.43 | kenlyric | take thy heathen marks hence. |
| 17:46.03 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: you here? |
| 17:46.26 | chiper | kudos to _rane for the applescript version |
| 17:47.11 | Josh_Borke | or raid leaders, i have a question about alts in raids |
| 17:47.39 | [dRaCo] | just ask |
| 17:48.22 | Josh_Borke | if a person has 2 characters who are equally well geared, are they typically on the same loot rights level as someone who only has one equally well geared toon? |
| 17:48.56 | chiper | I dont see why not |
| 17:49.08 | [dRaCo] | we make our people which one's an alt |
| 17:49.29 | Josh_Borke | do you let them switch? if so, how often? |
| 17:49.32 | Zariel | can someone tell me why this doesnt work and makes an Internal Bag Error , http://wow-zariel.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/AmmoGnome/AmmoGnome.lua |
| 17:49.43 | MoonWolf | a character is a character, whether you own 5000 or 1, if you can get those 5000 to participate as much as someone elses one, why not. |
| 17:49.53 | chiper | moon: exactly |
| 17:50.07 | [dRaCo] | Josh_Borke: yeah, we let them switch... but noone tried to to it more than once yet |
| 17:50.17 | Hjalte | Josh_Borke: Always mains before alts. People will have to choose a main, because gearing up two toons for one player is a waste. |
| 17:51.08 | chiper | my guild doesn't differentiate between main and alt, if the toon is geared for the instance, and there's a place for it, why shouldn't it be allowed in. anyone who's in gets to roll |
| 17:51.15 | Josh_Borke | Hjalte: the problem with that philosophy (which I half agree with) is that for the content we as a guild are raiding (and potentially will ever raid) gear can be obtained outside of the 25 man raids |
| 17:51.41 | Chompers | chiper: i'd love for a piece of t5 to go to an alt |
| 17:51.43 | Josh_Borke | ie, we can kill vr/gruul/alar. my shadowpriest has 0 loot from a 25 man raid instance but is still the best geared spriest |
| 17:51.55 | Chompers | what progress that would be for the guild as a whole |
| 17:52.02 | Hjalte | Josh_Borke: Letting people just bring whatever toon they want spreads the good items on too many toons. |
| 17:52.04 | Josh_Borke | my warrior, who i obtained from a friend, is just as well geared |
| 17:52.19 | kenlyric | alts are at the service of the guild. |
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| 17:53.05 | Pkekyo| | lmao, some girl in my class is popping 38k for breast implants...she'll have to go to the bloody bank to get a LOAN to pay for it |
| 17:53.15 | kenlyric | that's a lot. |
| 17:53.16 | Josh_Borke | 38k for breast implant? |
| 17:53.19 | Josh_Borke | that's a lot of money |
| 17:53.22 | kenlyric | they should only cost about 3k each |
| 17:53.23 | Josh_Borke | they are seriously that expensive? |
| 17:53.33 | Josh_Borke | yea, i could see 10k |
| 17:53.33 | kenlyric | well, 3k $US |
| 17:53.35 | Hjalte | Pkekyo|: I don't believe you, pics please... When they are done! |
| 17:53.43 | Josh_Borke | before and after obviously |
| 17:53.46 | Zariel | What we did was only allow alts to bid on items if they were asked to raid on that char for class needing reasons |
| 17:53.46 | chiper | you should never mortgage a house to get breast implants, that's just a bad investment |
| 17:53.47 | Josh_Borke | we need to judge the quality |
| 17:53.50 | Zariel | else alts wernt allowed |
| 17:53.52 | [dRaCo] | 38k$? |
| 17:53.52 | Pkekyo| | Josh_Borke: not 38k USD :p |
| 17:53.57 | chiper | the house will gain more equity than the breasts |
| 17:53.58 | Zariel | But we did take alts to gruul |
| 17:54.09 | Pkekyo| | divide by six and you should have USD (methinks) |
| 17:54.13 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 17:54.18 | Josh_Borke | that's more reasonable then |
| 17:54.34 | Zicon | ~7k USD. |
| 17:54.36 | _rane | 36000 NOK? |
| 17:54.39 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 17:54.42 | _rane | 38* |
| 17:54.43 | Pkekyo| | 38* |
| 17:54.44 | chiper | zariel: well yeah, I can't imagine any guild would bring in an alt that wasn't needed for the run |
| 17:55.12 | Zicon | Still a stupid amount of money. I vote to hurt her. |
| 17:55.34 | Pkekyo| | yeah, but I want to see her fall apart when her economy goes tits up and she's out on the streets :p |
| 17:55.36 | _rane | let's hope she gets pair of good looking tits |
| 17:55.54 | chiper | Pkekyo|: well atleast those new tits will help her sell herself |
| 17:56.18 | Zariel | ^ idd |
| 17:56.25 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 17:57.07 | Zariel | Any ideas why this doesnt work? http://wow-zariel.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/AmmoGnome/AmmoGnome.lua |
| 17:57.10 | chiper | grr, this jamba juice diet is really starting to suck. I long for something to chew on |
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| 18:01.06 | Estil | did they recently change weather effects in wow? |
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| 18:01.11 | Estil | the rain component has a fog now |
| 18:01.56 | chiper | sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt |
| 18:02.15 | chiper | also depends on what you have weather density set to |
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| 18:02.39 | Estil | ah |
| 18:03.11 | kenlyric | fog is its own effect. |
| 18:03.18 | kenlyric | it can occur with rain. |
| 18:03.25 | Hallucinosis | old guild would only let alts get stuff if no mains needed... then they would need to pay the guild bank back for its cost in shards |
| 18:03.30 | kenlyric | I get fog a lot in hillsbrad |
| 18:03.32 | Hallucinosis | heh |
| 18:03.38 | Amadeo | My weather effects are off |
| 18:03.44 | chiper | Hallucinosis: are you serious? |
| 18:03.45 | kenlyric | errr, fog without rain. |
| 18:04.05 | Hallucinosis | yeah... hehe |
| 18:04.14 | Hallucinosis | so alt loot was DKP free, but you had to come up with shards |
| 18:04.19 | kenlyric | the snow/sandstorm effects are kinda lame, but I love rain and fog. |
| 18:04.31 | chiper | I understand why it's the old guild, that's not a healthy way to improve guild as a whole |
| 18:04.47 | Hallucinosis | oh, actually it's the old guild because I stopped raiding |
| 18:05.04 | Hallucinosis | they're now like #55 ranked US or something |
| 18:05.27 | chiper | see, that's why I hate the hardcore raiding guilds. takes the fun out of the game |
| 18:05.35 | Hallucinosis | yes |
| 18:05.42 | Hallucinosis | too much "work" |
| 18:05.53 | Hallucinosis | I mean, following those kinds of schedules is too much of a draw from life |
| 18:05.59 | Hallucinosis | in addition to work |
| 18:06.03 | chiper | right |
| 18:06.21 | chiper | I already spend most of my day being bossed around, dont need it during my rec time |
| 18:06.28 | Hallucinosis | heh |
| 18:06.44 | Pkekyo| | rofl, some guy in my guild is ranting about how pissed he is 'cause his GF has to be with her husband at christmas time O.o |
| 18:06.58 | Hallucinosis | haha |
| 18:07.00 | chiper | ahahahaha |
| 18:07.15 | Hallucinosis | I'm afraid I see what your problem is guy! |
| 18:08.02 | erb | hallu as in undead mage? |
| 18:09.22 | Pkekyo| | indeed...I can't stop laughing |
| 18:09.43 | Amadeo | Generally it's a good idea to find a new girlfriend if yours has a husband |
| 18:09.54 | Pkekyo| | some chick in guild is yelling at us for not respecting his gchat privacy :p |
| 18:11.02 | chiper | gchat... privacy? |
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| 18:11.12 | chiper | gchat is as public as this place |
| 18:11.28 | chiper | you got some pretty stupid people in your guild |
| 18:11.57 | Pkekyo| | so it seems :p |
| 18:12.06 | Osstia | I <3 Tim Tam's |
| 18:12.14 | Pkekyo| | telling us that our lifes aren't great either and we should leave him alone :p |
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| 18:13.03 | Vexir | Is there a way I can set a 'placeholder' for my target frame in Pitbull? It dissapears whenever I don't have a target, making my UI look lopsided |
| 18:13.09 | chiper | betcha she's the gf |
| 18:13.26 | erb | haha |
| 18:13.36 | Vexir | me? |
| 18:13.48 | chiper | no, not you |
| 18:13.49 | Pkekyo| | chiper: nah, different countries |
| 18:14.03 | Vexir | oh, i was about to say... im a guy =\ |
| 18:14.05 | chiper | do you always assume people are talking about you when you walk into a room? |
| 18:14.26 | Pkekyo| | prolly :p |
| 18:14.26 | Vexir | sometimes... its a good way to start a conversation |
| 18:14.47 | Vexir | as opposed to 'whatsup' 'nm' you?' 'nm.' 'cool.' |
| 18:14.51 | Pkekyo| | "YOU BASTARDS TALKING 'BOUT ME BEHIND MY BACK?!" yeah, I can see how that works well :p |
| 18:15.05 | Vexir | right right, minus the aggressive tone, of course =D |
| 18:15.17 | Vexir | see we're having an awsome and engaging conversation right now |
| 18:15.51 | Hallucinosis | Yes Hallucinosis as in the undead mage |
| 18:16.11 | Vexir | anyway, regarding my question... |
| 18:16.18 | Vexir | does anyone know of a solution? |
| 18:16.20 | Hallucinosis | hi erb |
| 18:17.33 | Osstia | I don't Vexir |
| 18:17.46 | Vexir | haha |
| 18:18.01 | Vexir | ah well. |
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| 18:18.18 | Osstia | but back to this GF/husband issue |
| 18:18.27 | Osstia | Screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 18:18.34 | Amadeo | Pretty funny.. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773278790&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:18.40 | erb | word hallu =0 |
| 18:18.48 | Vexir | can Grid tell me everything that Pitbull's party interface can? |
| 18:18.48 | Pkekyo| | Osstia: not gonna get one off me |
| 18:18.52 | erb | you made me break my 26 day idle time |
| 18:18.54 | erb | oh wellz |
| 18:19.00 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 18:19.24 | Hallucinosis | haha |
| 18:20.23 | Hallucinosis | I'm leveling a priest alt right now. My first "real" alt (excluding the hunter, which I don't count) lvl 55 now, but I just started a few weeks ago |
| 18:21.03 | Vexir | I ditched my priest at 38 =\ |
| 18:21.08 | Vexir | got too annoying to level |
| 18:21.19 | Vexir | rolled a druid instead, now im in SSC and loving it as a tank ^_^ |
| 18:21.24 | Pkekyo| | isn't shadowluzmeltfaces!!!!!!!!!!111 any fun? |
| 18:21.29 | erb | wtf |
| 18:21.31 | erb | lol |
| 18:21.31 | Hallucinosis | I'm finding it easier than leveling a mage! |
| 18:21.37 | erb | priests are fun |
| 18:21.41 | erb | i use to play one in basic |
| 18:21.43 | erb | wayyyy back in the day |
| 18:21.46 | erb | i sold that shit though |
| 18:21.51 | erb | just have the hunter and lock |
| 18:21.59 | Hallucinosis | ah |
| 18:22.14 | Vexir | really!? man i was thinking about rolling a mage ale |
| 18:22.16 | Vexir | *alt |
| 18:22.28 | Hallucinosis | those are easy too though |
| 18:22.28 | erb | i want to level mine but hes only 24 |
| 18:22.31 | erb | and im seriously lazy |
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| 18:22.33 | Hallucinosis | it's probably since leveling is fast now |
| 18:23.04 | Hallucinosis | I'm following these leveling guides http://www.wow-pro.com/node/908 |
| 18:23.10 | erb | are you still on naz or did you ditch that pos? |
| 18:23.17 | Hallucinosis | I'm on boulderfist now |
| 18:23.24 | erb | must be a lot better |
| 18:23.28 | Hallucinosis | yes |
| 18:23.30 | Hallucinosis | seriously way better |
| 18:23.33 | erb | i hopped on over to dark iron and had to change my name to phaded back in july |
| 18:23.33 | Hallucinosis | I love boulderfist |
| 18:23.37 | erb | but anything is better than nazjatar |
| 18:23.55 | Hallucinosis | yeah. Nascent was like the only guild on that server |
| 18:23.59 | erb | yeah |
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| 18:24.42 | Hallucinosis | IRL friends went to Boulderfist too |
| 18:24.57 | Vexir | who just said they're on boulderfist, i got disconnected |
| 18:24.59 | Vexir | i dont remember |
| 18:25.05 | Hallucinosis | me |
| 18:25.05 | Hallucinosis | hi |
| 18:25.05 | erb | yah all my buddies went to DI too |
| 18:25.06 | Vexir | but im on boulderfist, look up Vexir |
| 18:25.07 | Vexir | woo! |
| 18:25.08 | erb | we took a bunch off of nazjatar |
| 18:25.09 | erb | lol |
| 18:25.15 | erb | probably left the alliance population @ 12 |
| 18:25.15 | Vexir | boulderfist ftw |
| 18:25.22 | Hallucinosis | yes |
| 18:25.29 | Vexir | guild? |
| 18:25.32 | erb | i wish kumaren would have come |
| 18:25.34 | erb | hes a funny ass kid |
| 18:25.39 | Hallucinosis | I'm not in a real guild |
| 18:25.45 | Vexir | 70? |
| 18:25.49 | Hallucinosis | heh yes |
| 18:25.49 | erb | you got all decked out in nascent right? |
| 18:25.52 | Hallucinosis | I'm in Tasty Boys |
| 18:25.55 | Vexir | lolol |
| 18:25.56 | Hallucinosis | I mostly PvP now |
| 18:26.22 | erb | the first few months of nazjatar were pretty cool when every one was leveling up |
| 18:26.33 | Hallucinosis | I got a bit of gear from Nascent, but stopped raiding right before BT/Hijal |
| 18:26.36 | erb | i dunno wtf happen though its like everyone transfered off all of a sudden |
| 18:27.04 | Hallucinosis | but I've gone on some PvE runs with Monstro people |
| 18:27.06 | Hallucinosis | =) |
| 18:27.24 | erb | i'm hoping to get fucking kael down so i can see BT |
| 18:27.59 | Ellipsis | but...the heroic groups... |
| 18:28.03 | Ellipsis | they're so baaaaaaaaaaaad |
| 18:28.17 | Vexir | dude i am monstro |
| 18:28.19 | Vexir | are you joking |
| 18:28.20 | Vexir | haha |
| 18:28.29 | Vexir | is hallucinosis your in game name? |
| 18:28.37 | Vexir | we attempted hydross yesterday, 57% =[ |
| 18:28.49 | Hallucinosis | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Boulderfist&n=Hallucinosis |
| 18:28.51 | erb | i wish i was AOE on that fight |
| 18:28.56 | erb | its so fucking boring for me as a hunter |
| 18:29.06 | Vexir | i was a tank, and they made me do two adds at first |
| 18:29.07 | Vexir | it was hard =[ |
| 18:29.13 | Vexir | i was glad when they brought in another tank |
| 18:29.20 | erb | i think we use 3 tanks |
| 18:29.27 | erb | 1 for each phase 1 for adds |
| 18:29.28 | Hallucinosis | logged out in grinding primals gear |
| 18:29.28 | Vexir | the trouble with tanking two adds is that after like a second they all go to the person who gets agro |
| 18:29.58 | Vexir | and they all look the same |
| 18:30.05 | Vexir | so i was like WTF which one is mine again!? |
| 18:30.16 | Vexir | i only had time to pick up one, then the other one was like "uh where did it go" |
| 18:30.25 | Vexir | so we had 5 tanks in there at the end, but then we didnt have enough dps |
| 18:30.32 | Vexir | so i think ill have to end up tanking 2 |
| 18:30.49 | Hallucinosis | heh |
| 18:30.54 | erb | armory on dark iron hasn't worked in weeks |
| 18:30.55 | erb | heh |
| 18:30.58 | erb | i dunno wtf they did to it |
| 18:31.04 | Vexir | i tried making raid target macro's, doesnt help because i cant use them fast enough |
| 18:31.10 | Hallucinosis | mine hasn't updated in a long time |
| 18:31.35 | erb | Character Data Awaiting Refresh |
| 18:31.38 | erb | thats what mine says |
| 18:31.49 | Hallucinosis | same for my alt |
| 18:32.05 | Hallucinosis | I've done hydros, but not as a tank =P |
| 18:32.13 | alext | same |
| 18:32.28 | Hallucinosis | seems like a lot of work for tanks |
| 18:32.40 | erb | yah tanks seem to do a lot |
| 18:33.19 | erb | i did an EOTS last night that was all nazjatar except for me |
| 18:33.24 | erb | i guess they opened up free xfers from other realms |
| 18:33.42 | erb | i guess they milked the $25 out of us for as long as they could |
| 18:33.48 | Hallucinosis | haha |
| 18:33.49 | Hallucinosis | yeah |
| 18:33.51 | Hallucinosis | seriously |
| 18:34.27 | Hallucinosis | I had to transfer 3-4 chars |
| 18:34.37 | erb | yeah 2 for me |
| 18:34.40 | erb | i redid my bank character |
| 18:34.43 | erb | just because fuck another $25 |
| 18:35.39 | Hallucinosis | yeah, I turned my level 45 lock into a bank |
| 18:35.41 | Hallucinosis | haha |
| 18:35.58 | CIA-8 | 03arcanefoam * r57887 10DHUD2/ (Layouts/Standard.lua core.lua): |
| 18:35.58 | CIA-8 | DHUD2: |
| 18:35.58 | CIA-8 | -Revised pet bars functionality. Removed debug option by default. |
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| 18:37.01 | erb | they should make the xfer fee apply to an account instead of a character |
| 18:37.08 | erb | but that means less money for them |
| 18:37.11 | erb | so i can see why they wont :) |
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| 18:40.59 | Hallucinosis | yeah |
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| 18:43.57 | erb | what battlegroup are you in? |
| 18:44.03 | potemkin | anyone know if UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED only fires from the player? |
| 18:44.07 | erb | shadowburn is fucking horrible for alliance in AV |
| 18:44.13 | Pkekyo| | anyone know what timezone prague is? :p |
| 18:44.39 | Vexir | prague standard time? *shrug* |
| 18:44.47 | Vexir | what does the red dot in the upper left hand corner of Grid mean |
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| 18:47.44 | erb | prague |
| 18:47.45 | erb | holy hell |
| 18:47.48 | erb | i dont even know where that is |
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| 18:49.28 | chiper | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague |
| 18:49.37 | Josh_Borke | potemkin: no, it fires for everyone |
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| 18:49.58 | chiper | they're in the CET timezone. UTC+1 |
| 18:50.00 | Pkekyo| | erbi dont even know where that is tzech (spelling) republic |
| 18:50.22 | Cheads | czech |
| 18:50.25 | erb | czech |
| 18:50.30 | erb | thats over in eastern europe |
| 18:50.51 | Dhraga | Evening all, could I ask a favor from someone with update rights to the wowace files server. The latest version of Recap that is mirrored on the wowace file server is missing the last line in the recap.toc file, the last line in the toc should read RecapRecent.xml according to Recaps author Hawksy, but as he don't upload recap himself to the file server he can't fix it himself.... Anyone... |
| 18:50.53 | Dhraga | ...that think they can put in that last line in the recap.toc ? |
| 18:50.57 | erb | oh |
| 18:50.57 | erb | haha |
| 18:51.02 | erb | prague is the capital |
| 18:51.02 | erb | neato |
| 18:53.25 | Dhraga | Btw for details about the recap you can read Hawksys own comment on http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/5467/ |
| 18:54.28 | nevcairiel | meh thats totally stupid, other people uploading other authors addons just to get it onto the files |
| 18:54.31 | nevcairiel | +page |
| 18:54.42 | Osstia | indeed |
| 18:54.47 | Dhraga | agree |
| 18:54.51 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: wtb removal of such actions :P |
| 18:55.23 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 18:55.52 | nevcairiel | People upload mods just to get them in the updater, and they are not even the author of those mods |
| 18:56.10 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 18:56.14 | Kaelten | heh, that sucks |
| 18:56.25 | Kaelten | thats not good. |
| 18:56.29 | Ellipsis | the irony of uploading an addon so it can be added to the updater...when it won't be updated... |
| 18:56.40 | nevcairiel | "The copy of v 3.77 on WoWAce is broken. I don't upload to WoWAce, so I can't fix it." quote from that curse comment |
| 18:56.53 | Kaelten | I see that |
| 18:56.54 | Kaelten | :s |
| 18:57.13 | nevcairiel | someone should write a big fucking disclaimer "WoWAce is no distribution page, its a developer community" |
| 18:57.14 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:57.34 | Kaelten | I think I've done that a few times |
| 18:57.34 | Dhraga | =) |
| 18:57.37 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 18:57.40 | Kaelten | people won't listen |
| 18:58.10 | Kemayo | The disclaimer would, of course, be wrong. Regardless of what we might like, wowace *is* a distribution system now. :{ |
| 18:58.10 | [dRaCo] | cant u just delete it? |
| 18:58.12 | nevcairiel | the other addon pages just need to get a unified format for a xml feed |
| 18:58.25 | nevcairiel | and some good updater |
| 18:58.27 | nevcairiel | problem solved |
| 19:00.51 | Dhraga | regarding the ace recount is it just Cryect's addon or are several coders working on it ? |
| 19:01.22 | Pkekyo| | I hate idiots |
| 19:02.10 | Pkekyo| | these twats rather have me corpserun for 5min than spending 10sec to ress me |
| 19:02.13 | nevcairiel | recount is only cryect |
| 19:02.24 | Dhraga | thanks nev |
| 19:02.47 | si-m1 | Pkekyo|: ofc |
| 19:02.48 | Chompers | Dhraga: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10598/ |
| 19:02.58 | si-m1 | Pkekyo|: if you played a ressing class you'd have to run |
| 19:03.06 | erb | pkek: =/ |
| 19:03.18 | erb | i cable people on my hunter in bgs |
| 19:03.30 | erb | just because i'm an engineer and i spent like 659349 gold to level it |
| 19:03.33 | erb | so i am going to use it |
| 19:03.34 | Pkekyo| | si-m1: that's bollocks |
| 19:03.35 | erb | haha |
| 19:03.40 | si-m1 | no, it's true |
| 19:03.58 | Dhraga | thank you chompers |
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| 19:04.12 | Pkekyo| | no, that's bloody bollocks..."ofc" my arse |
| 19:04.18 | Kemayo | Pkekyo|: Was it a wipe and the others had to run back too, or was it just you who died? |
| 19:05.19 | Pkekyo| | Kemayo: I was the only one that died |
| 19:05.40 | si-m1 | hehe, ok, then I agree |
| 19:06.05 | Pkekyo| | didn't even fall into the priest's mind as he ran past my corpse on towards the next mob |
| 19:06.25 | Kemayo | Pkekyo|: Okay, then it seems like you're right about the idiots thing. |
| 19:07.04 | mort | maybe they are better off with you dead ;) |
| 19:07.08 | Pkekyo| | it's a group of guildies, awarding loot to eachother >.< |
| 19:07.10 | mjc | kergoth: ping |
| 19:07.36 | chiper | yeah, I had that in a pug the other day. Pally standing there with full health right next to my corpse, didnt even occur to him to res me until I pointed it out, and even then the priest did it |
| 19:07.49 | chiper | a pally that came to the group TO HEAL |
| 19:07.53 | mjc | kergoth: nevermind, nonping. |
| 19:07.59 | chiper | fucking pugs |
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| 19:08.44 | Pkekyo| | and ofc, they wouldn't wait for me to corpserun and get to them before they engaged the next boss >.< |
| 19:10.32 | *** join/#wowace kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-075-189-136-021.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:10.48 | Pkekyo| | nor will they speak bloody english in partychat |
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| 19:13.55 | Pkekyo| | yay, I got the priest killed :p |
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| 19:15.53 | Stanzilla | ~patchnotes |
| 19:15.54 | purl | The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ and the latest Test Realm patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 19:16.21 | Grum | anything beats my server atm, 4-6seconds lag ftw :D |
| 19:16.39 | Estil | buff priests |
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| 19:17.53 | Fin | Estil: ? |
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| 19:20.12 | Estil | I said it |
| 19:20.14 | Estil | buff priests! |
| 19:20.37 | Estil | specifically ability to get myself away from angry melee |
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| 19:21.20 | Fin | is that a statement? or a request? or what? |
| 19:21.23 | Fin | a demand? |
| 19:21.42 | chiper | a prayer |
| 19:21.47 | Fin | hahah |
| 19:22.59 | Pkekyo| | Estil: so...you want blink? sprint or? |
| 19:23.19 | chiper | vanish |
| 19:23.35 | chiper | all ranged classes should have aggro reset, IMO |
| 19:23.55 | Pkekyo| | I can see it now..."holy sprint" |
| 19:24.02 | Pkekyo| | chiper: why not all meelee classes? |
| 19:24.03 | chiper | rapture |
| 19:24.24 | chiper | melee dps already does have aggro reset |
| 19:24.32 | Pkekyo| | rogues does, ok |
| 19:24.35 | chiper | well, except for warriors, but they're supposed to have it |
| 19:24.40 | Pkekyo| | what does druids and warriors have? |
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| 19:24.58 | Kemayo | Prayer of OhShitNotInTheFace. |
| 19:25.26 | chiper | Kemayo: I just had to curl over to keep from laughing aloud |
| 19:26.06 | chiper | pk: druids dont have one, that's what I'm saying |
| 19:26.17 | Kemayo | Pkekyo|: A melee druid is in kitty form, and can cower. |
| 19:26.48 | Zariel | haste, can you make oTaxi check if the flight master has quests when skipping to taxi frame? |
| 19:27.15 | chiper | how many flightmasters have quests? I only know of two |
| 19:27.50 | Zariel | haste, nm wasnt otaxi :( |
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| 19:29.25 | [Liquidor] | . |
| 19:29.27 | [Liquidor] | ! |
| 19:29.59 | Pernicius | flightmasters have quests? |
| 19:29.59 | Kemayo | Every capital/newbie zone has a "take these supplies back and forth" quest, which involves turnins at the flight master. |
| 19:30.09 | nevcairiel | some do Pernicius |
| 19:30.19 | Pernicius | ^^ |
| 19:30.44 | Kemayo | You hit level 10, move to the second zone, and the innkeeper asks you to take a ride. |
| 19:31.02 | Kemayo | (Actually, not every one. I can't remember one in the Night Elf areas.) |
| 19:31.29 | [Liquidor] | Kemayo, there is |
| 19:31.33 | [Liquidor] | but there isn't with IF |
| 19:31.44 | chiper | sheesh, I'm sitting here wishing I had something to eat, completely forgetting I have a 10lb bag of peanuts on my desk |
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| 19:36.34 | Cheads | the flightmaster on bloodmyst isle also has a quest |
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| 19:38.51 | Fin | chiper: just hold shift when you right-click the taxi driver? |
| 19:39.27 | chiper | wrong target |
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| 19:40.11 | Fin | you mean, I directed that to the wrong person? oops, sorry |
| 19:40.24 | Fin | Zariel: I mean you! |
| 19:42.27 | snorks | kemayo, did you make wowacepy? |
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| 20:05.15 | bigzero | anyone know some french? |
| 20:05.50 | bigzero | what are the sqrt @ characters supposed to be in "Permet de prv©visualiser les enchantements" |
| 20:05.51 | bigzero | ? |
| 20:06.17 | bigzero | grr...weird..copied differently from gmail |
| 20:06.49 | bigzero | well, the (c) character then |
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| 20:17.50 | Vexir | what does buffalo do? |
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| 20:17.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:17.57 | Vexir | specifically |
| 20:19.22 | Kemayo | snorks: Yup. |
| 20:19.47 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:19.50 | ckknight | I want to move |
| 20:20.01 | ckknight | anyone want to let me sleep on their couch for a while? |
| 20:20.05 | Kemayo | Tropical paridise not good enough for you? |
| 20:20.07 | ckknight | I promise I don't smell |
| 20:20.10 | Vexir | i never use my couch |
| 20:20.12 | Vexir | at all |
| 20:20.13 | Vexir | i should |
| 20:20.16 | ckknight | Kemayo: not all it's cracked up to be |
| 20:21.01 | ckknight | the idea I have is that I move to somewhere that has computer jobs available and hopefully a low unemployment rate, get a job there, and basically live life for a while |
| 20:21.59 | Vexir | lol, silicon valley |
| 20:22.00 | ckknight | possibly thinking about the Bay Area |
| 20:22.07 | Vexir | i live right in the center of it |
| 20:22.16 | Vexir | Apple HQ is 5 min walk from my school :) |
| 20:22.33 | Kemayo | Well, at least coming from Hawaii you won't be too shocked by bay area rent. |
| 20:22.34 | ckknight | those smug Cupertino bastards. |
| 20:22.34 | Vexir | im telling you man, my couch is a great place to be |
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| 20:22.48 | ckknight | granted, I use a mac, so I'm no better |
| 20:22.51 | Vexir | yeah living cost here is ridiculous but the salaries are higher too so.. |
| 20:22.59 | Vexir | whatever, i dont pay for it =D |
| 20:23.01 | ckknight | Vexir: there's no real computer jobs here in Hawaii |
| 20:23.12 | ckknight | Vexir: live with your parents, then? |
| 20:23.19 | Vexir | high school senior :) |
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| 20:23.23 | ckknight | ah, that'd do it |
| 20:23.36 | ckknight | I'm supposed to be in college or something |
| 20:23.46 | Vexir | in hawaii? thats sick |
| 20:23.46 | ckknight | but school's for nerds, and I gotta be free, man |
| 20:24.03 | ckknight | Vexir: my parents live here, I'm in their house. it's thoroughly distracting |
| 20:24.12 | Amadeo | ckknight: you could be like The Dog and be a bounty hunter |
| 20:24.18 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:24.24 | ckknight | his wife walks her dogs in my neighborhood |
| 20:24.30 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:24.33 | ckknight | I'm only like 2 miles from their house |
| 20:24.37 | ckknight | and they fight all the time |
| 20:24.39 | ckknight | it's funny |
| 20:24.49 | Amadeo | I didn't know she could make it around a block with her, uh, upper body |
| 20:25.25 | ckknight | apparently she does |
| 20:25.31 | ckknight | along with like two other women |
| 20:25.34 | ckknight | and an array of dogs |
| 20:25.42 | Amadeo | Didn't his brother rat him out about his racism thing? |
| 20:25.45 | ckknight | they caused a ruckus, recently |
| 20:25.46 | Amadeo | or wait, his son |
| 20:25.47 | ckknight | his son |
| 20:26.11 | Amadeo | That's messed up, on both accounts |
| 20:26.20 | ckknight | they were estranged or something |
| 20:26.38 | Amadeo | -e -d |
| 20:26.56 | ckknight | Ellipsis: you should take me in, clothe me, house me, and feed me. It'll be just like playing house! |
| 20:27.06 | ckknight | well, without the lupis |
| 20:27.42 | CIA-8 | 03boydon * r57888 10SmartQueue/ (Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Options.lua): |
| 20:27.42 | CIA-8 | SmartQueue: |
| 20:27.42 | CIA-8 | - Now it is possible to set the time before auto leave is scheduled |
| 20:27.42 | CIA-8 | - New strings need to be localized |
| 20:27.48 | duaiwe | Is it bad form to watch The Office while I'm working from home? |
| 20:28.00 | ckknight | hehe, NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:28.04 | haste | Fisker-: I'm playing with a L70 again :p |
| 20:28.07 | ckknight | why were you dualwe? |
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| 20:28.19 | haste | Fisker-: klunkeen D: |
| 20:28.36 | Ellipsis | ckknight: I'd so do it |
| 20:28.38 | NightHawkTheSane | it's the alternate nick i have set in x-chat, and i got disconnected sometime t his morning i guess |
| 20:28.53 | ckknight | Ellipsis: I'm serious about moving, btw |
| 20:28.53 | Ellipsis | if, y'know, the apartment was in my name instead of my bf's |
| 20:29.19 | ckknight | Ellipsis: marry him and kill him, take all his stuff |
| 20:29.47 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 20:29.55 | ckknight | you're a trooper |
| 20:30.04 | Ellipsis | if only he'd marry me, haha |
| 20:30.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i mean who would. :P |
| 20:30.25 | ckknight | Ellipsis: don't you have like lots of money or something? |
| 20:30.27 | Osstia | anyone know of a freenode server that allows connections on a non-standard port? |
| 20:30.38 | ckknight | get your own place, then let me move in and mooch off you |
| 20:30.55 | ckknight | I'm not opposed to the whole marriage thing, I just don't want kids yet |
| 20:30.58 | MentalPower | Osstia: they allow connections on all three ports |
| 20:31.00 | Pkekyo| | and they say shivalry's dead? :p |
| 20:31.03 | MentalPower | and ToR |
| 20:31.11 | MentalPower | TOR even |
| 20:31.12 | Pkekyo| | (spelling?) |
| 20:31.14 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: I am a Knight, after all |
| 20:31.15 | Amadeo | You can do the same thing legally, just marry, wait for a while, then divorce, take half of his stuff and money for life :D |
| 20:31.16 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: it's chivalry |
| 20:32.00 | Stanzilla | ckknight: move to germany :p |
| 20:32.09 | Amadeo | Don't do it! You've seen South Park... |
| 20:32.16 | ckknight | Aber meine Deutsch ist schlect :-( |
| 20:32.22 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: that's why I don't dare get married :p |
| 20:32.24 | Stanzilla | hey |
| 20:32.27 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:32.28 | Stanzilla | that was not bad |
| 20:32.34 | Pkekyo| | that and the fear of someone cutting out my kidneys and selling them on the black market |
| 20:32.49 | Amadeo | Where do you think kidney beans come from? |
| 20:33.01 | Pkekyo| | shut it |
| 20:33.03 | ckknight | grocery store? |
| 20:33.07 | Amadeo | lol |
| 20:34.03 | ckknight | okay, I'll bbiab |
| 20:34.36 | Amadeo | Wal-Mart? Do they like make walls there? |
| 20:35.32 | Pkekyo| | I fucking hate random dropping BoP blues |
| 20:35.37 | Amadeo | So what did you all get me for my birthday? |
| 20:35.47 | Pkekyo| | I got you jack shit |
| 20:35.54 | Pkekyo| | what'd you get me? |
| 20:36.05 | Amadeo | A horned helmet and a duel |
| 20:36.20 | Pkekyo| | BLOODY BEUTIFUL |
| 20:37.09 | Vexir | how do i show a specific frame (im trying to find my error frame) in FluidFrames? |
| 20:37.14 | Vexir | i have it hidden and i cant find it anymore |
| 20:38.03 | Pkekyo| | Vexir: you're fucked |
| 20:38.08 | Vexir | =[ |
| 20:38.22 | Pkekyo| | btw, pay no attention to me |
| 20:38.29 | Pkekyo| | dunno what I'm on about |
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| 20:40.33 | Vexir | does anyone have slash commands for fluid frames? |
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| 20:50.48 | Amadeo | I'm rewinding to earlier, what light addon will show me mana bars in Feral forms? |
| 20:51.09 | [dRaCo] | pitbull does, but it's not exactly lightweight |
| 20:51.20 | Amadeo | I'm still using Sage |
| 20:51.47 | Vexir | Amadeo: DruidBar |
| 20:51.48 | Amadeo | I'm getting too lazy for deep customization :P |
| 20:51.51 | Pkekyo| | Vexirdoes anyone have slash commands for fluid frames? <---- /fluidframes // /ff? |
| 20:52.04 | Vexir | Pkekyo|: it doesn't seem to have its own config |
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| 20:52.07 | Vexir | it uses Khaos |
| 20:52.11 | Vexir | which i dont use |
| 20:52.23 | Pkekyo| | Vexir: again, you're fucked :p |
| 20:52.47 | chiper | is khaos still updated? |
| 20:52.48 | Vexir | just die! |
| 20:53.08 | ro | i exchanged evry little addon i had including cosmos for an ace alternative and im happy to did so :) |
| 20:53.10 | Pkekyo| | Vexir: nothanks, I'm driving |
| 20:53.11 | Vexir | i whisper anduinlothar, who is the author, but he doesnt appear to be here |
| 20:53.30 | Pkekyo| | ~seen AnduinLothar |
| 20:53.35 | purl | anduinlothar is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 21h 25m 49s) #wowace (1d 21h 25m 49s). Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 20h 50m 33s, last said: 'or friendly in this case'. |
| 20:53.35 | chiper | oh, the original question was about fluidframes? |
| 20:53.45 | Amadeo | Vexir: Thank ya |
| 20:53.47 | Pkekyo| | he's been gone for about two days |
| 20:53.51 | Vexir | haha |
| 20:53.55 | Vexir | 20hours |
| 20:54.02 | Vexir | <1day |
| 20:54.10 | chiper | vexir: open up key bindings and find FF's entries |
| 20:54.19 | chiper | you have to map a key to the frame selection |
| 20:54.21 | Pkekyo| | looked at #wowi-lounge (1d 21h 25m 49s, sorry |
| 20:54.42 | Vexir | chiper: i know that, i have one binded - the trouble is i cant FIND my error frame because its hidden and i dont remember where i put it |
| 20:54.52 | chiper | lol |
| 20:54.53 | Vexir | i tried clicking all around my screen, couldnt find it lawl |
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| 20:57.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:57.57 | Fin | hello ck |
| 20:57.58 | Chompers | HAI |
| 20:58.17 | Fin | who's Mr. StichUI? |
| 20:58.33 | Fin | aha, nymbia |
| 21:00.57 | Fisker- | madness |
| 21:01.20 | Chompers | this is cake |
| 21:01.39 | Fisker- | oh you wanna have sex with yourself Chompers? |
| 21:01.48 | Chompers | yes, in the butt |
| 21:01.49 | Fisker- | because that's what i'm going to make you do if you don't shut up |
| 21:01.50 | Fisker- | :O |
| 21:01.51 | Chompers | will you help me |
| 21:01.52 | Fisker- | bah |
| 21:02.01 | Fisker- | then i'm going to make you not have sex with yourself |
| 21:02.01 | Chompers | get your rubber gloves |
| 21:02.14 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 21:02.17 | Chompers | and the biggest sock you can find |
| 21:03.49 | Megalon | with the sock it gets disgusting! |
| 21:04.10 | Chompers | ...it gets sexy |
| 21:05.02 | NeoTron | this is was not the right time to come and read the channel it seems |
| 21:05.03 | Megalon | depends on where you put the sock ;/ |
| 21:06.00 | Osstia | or the right time NeoTron :) |
| 21:07.26 | potemkin | anyone know where the texture of an action bar flash is |
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| 21:08.44 | Harshmage | ckknight: I'm a little new to using CowTip 2.0. Is RepColor still a functional modifier in the tag? |
| 21:08.54 | ckknight | it could be |
| 21:09.03 | ckknight | lemme check |
| 21:09.41 | Vexir | is cowtip good? |
| 21:09.48 | Harshmage | Thanka... |
| 21:10.03 | Vexir | im looking for a tooltip addon that is less heavy on the text and minimalistic |
| 21:10.06 | Vexir | tiny tip was great |
| 21:10.11 | Vexir | dno if its updated or not tho |
| 21:10.20 | Harshmage | Vexir: it looks like a very well done and customizable tooltip replacement... |
| 21:10.26 | Harshmage | better than tiny tip so far, for me |
| 21:10.27 | Twist- | I still use tinytip |
| 21:10.34 | Vexir | Harshmage: kk |
| 21:10.42 | Harshmage | I just switched today to test it out |
| 21:10.42 | Vexir | is tiny tip ace2? |
| 21:10.51 | Harshmage | is/was |
| 21:11.03 | ckknight | not anymore |
| 21:11.18 | ckknight | Vexir: you can disable the text module |
| 21:11.24 | Vexir | oic |
| 21:11.24 | ckknight | Vexir: or modify it to however you want |
| 21:11.27 | Vexir | cool |
| 21:11.38 | ckknight | so how big is your couch? |
| 21:11.41 | ckknight | jk |
| 21:11.41 | Vexir | how do i see mob's health? |
| 21:11.43 | Vexir | rofl |
| 21:11.45 | Vexir | its a 3 seater |
| 21:11.51 | Vexir | i sleep on it comfortably, but im like 5'7" |
| 21:11.52 | ckknight | [CurHP] |
| 21:11.53 | Vexir | =[ |
| 21:11.58 | ckknight | I'm 5'10" |
| 21:11.59 | Vexir | curhp? |
| 21:12.00 | Vexir | kk |
| 21:12.04 | ckknight | and [MaxHP] |
| 21:12.08 | ckknight | and [PercentHP] |
| 21:12.10 | ckknight | among others |
| 21:12.12 | Vexir | are those addons |
| 21:12.14 | Vexir | ? |
| 21:12.21 | Harshmage | variables for cowtip |
| 21:12.28 | ckknight | no, DogTag tags |
| 21:12.58 | Vexir | well |
| 21:13.03 | Vexir | pitbull isnt showing me mob health |
| 21:13.05 | Vexir | just % |
| 21:13.13 | Vexir | for hp its showing out of 100 |
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| 21:13.21 | Harshmage | right |
| 21:13.28 | ckknight | get MobHealth |
| 21:13.36 | Vexir | oh |
| 21:13.36 | ckknight | that's an addon |
| 21:13.38 | Vexir | kk |
| 21:14.38 | Vexir | how come EBB doesn't show my Faerie Fire on a mob? |
| 21:14.45 | NeoTron | wow never knew wow had a seattle datacenter |
| 21:14.50 | NeoTron | 18ms latency would be nice :P |
| 21:17.24 | Ellipsis | it doesn't make as much difference in latency as you think >_> |
| 21:18.33 | Vexir | by EBB i mean elks buff bars |
| 21:18.56 | Amadeo | What about the Pat Nagle algorithm? |
| 21:19.30 | Amadeo | Nobody knew he was so smart |
| 21:20.13 | Fin | hmm |
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| 21:20.33 | Fin | TCP windows aren't much to do with latency |
| 21:21.53 | sylvanaar_work | im so bored |
| 21:23.04 | Stanzilla | Ace3 Version of Prat? |
| 21:23.24 | deltron | ace3? |
| 21:23.32 | Stanzilla | icecream? |
| 21:24.30 | haste | Ice cream sounds fucking awesome |
| 21:24.32 | haste | *fetches* |
| 21:24.57 | Stanzilla | waffles, too? |
| 21:25.46 | haste | I don't have an iron for that |
| 21:26.02 | haste | I have coffee already tho' :3 |
| 21:26.59 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 21:27.10 | osstia | mmmm waffles |
| 21:27.16 | osstia | i should make those tomorrow |
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| 21:27.34 | osstia | Are the majority of you folks European? |
| 21:27.46 | Stanzilla | I am |
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| 21:28.33 | Harshmage | no, I'm Texan...it's a country all to its own. |
| 21:28.43 | osstia | I always get the feeling I am at a different time of my day than you all |
| 21:28.45 | osstia | thats all |
| 21:28.56 | osstia | true Harshmage very true |
| 21:29.22 | Stanzilla | 10:28pm here |
| 21:29.23 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 21:29.43 | Harshmage | we're also coding geeks...we think all day is night, cause we stay in our caves all the time...either playing or coding... |
| 21:30.41 | Fin | WITH MY WILLY! |
| 21:30.44 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 21:30.50 | Ellipsis | can I watch? |
| 21:31.26 | potemkin | anyone know what args PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED passes? |
| 21:31.49 | Fin | you should've called yourself Epillipsis |
| 21:32.11 | Fin | actually no you shouldn't, but hey, what a pun |
| 21:32.12 | Kemayo | potemkin: As I recall it doesn't provide any arguments. |
| 21:32.28 | Fin | it's very mild mannered |
| 21:33.53 | vithos | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Could-You-Explain-Programming-Please.aspx incredible. |
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| 21:34.42 | charon | evening |
| 21:35.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ARJGHHSDF |
| 21:35.18 | Kemayo | potemkin: PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED is annoyingly vague, in fact. It tells you that something has changed about your party/raid... probably. Or sometimes not. |
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| 21:42.12 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57889 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua GatherMate.lua GatherMate.toc): GatherMate: updated mini map scanning for rotating map degrees, added a seperate constants are to un muck code |
| 21:42.24 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57890 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: updated mini map scanning for rotating map degrees, added a seperate constants are to un muck code |
| 21:42.34 | Pkekyo| | how do you disband an arenateam? |
| 21:43.36 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116) |
| 21:43.38 | Civrock | Pkekyol: /teamdisband [XvX] |
| 21:43.44 | osstia | I think its /teamdisband |
| 21:43.49 | osstia | but it is on the wow arena page |
| 21:44.17 | sylvanaar | ok this is better |
| 21:44.51 | Vexir | is there a way to have a split in pitbulls party interface? i have it stretched across my screen but i need to have a gap between the 2nd and 3rd party members for my minimap |
| 21:46.03 | vithos | hmm, can't you ungroup them somehow? |
| 21:46.35 | Vexir | i dont know, i wish i could but i dont see an option |
| 21:46.37 | Aeyan| | Don't think so |
| 21:48.25 | Vexir | blah |
| 21:48.31 | Vexir | "flexible" my ass |
| 21:49.05 | Ellipsis | you could do the 2x2 layout and add a big horizontal gap? |
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| 21:50.21 | Vexir | 2x2 layout? |
| 21:50.25 | Vexir | whats that |
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| 21:50.57 | Ellipsis | party -> other -> grouping -> square |
| 21:51.08 | Ellipsis | increase horizontal spacing as desired |
| 21:51.31 | Vexir | that sort of does it |
| 21:51.39 | Vexir | hm |
| 21:51.49 | Vexir | i'd have to reposition my target and player frames then =\ |
| 21:52.09 | Vexir | and the max horizontal gap isnt big enough to fit my player frame, the minimap, and my target frame |
| 21:52.21 | Kivin | How do i get the SVN Revision to get placed in my code? is it $rev$ |
| 21:54.20 | Stanzilla | %Revision% |
| 21:54.28 | Stanzilla | %=$ |
| 21:54.48 | Kivin | $Revision$? |
| 21:54.56 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 21:54.58 | Kivin | thanks |
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| 21:58.33 | nevcairiel | And you need to set svn:keywords property on the file |
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| 22:01.59 | Pkekyo| | I love it when people say "I'm intelegent"....it's so credible! :) |
| 22:02.07 | Ellipsis | no u Pkekyo| |
| 22:02.42 | Pkekyo| | you know you luvses it! |
| 22:03.03 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r57891 10CallToArms/ (CallToArms.lua CallToArms.toc): CallToArms: Fix the auto-join of the LFG channel at startup. TOC 20300. |
| 22:04.23 | Aeyan | Warning about the square layout |
| 22:04.33 | Aeyan | It's had an annoying bug for a long time now |
| 22:05.00 | Aeyan | If you have three or less in the party, it offsets the position of the damn thing |
| 22:05.23 | Aeyan | If you've got 4 or more though, it fixes itself |
| 22:05.48 | Ellipsis | anchored to center rather than left/right? |
| 22:06.01 | Aeyan | I believe that's the issue, yes. |
| 22:06.45 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57892 10CallToArms/ (CallToArms.lua CallToArms.toc): CallToArms: Fix the auto-join of the LFG channel at startup. TOC 20300. (Commit to correct location) |
| 22:10.15 | evl | WOOT |
| 22:10.16 | evl | illidan down :D |
| 22:10.20 | evl | about time for me |
| 22:10.23 | osstia | Gratz evl |
| 22:10.37 | Aeyan | Congrats |
| 22:11.03 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 22:12.06 | vithos | grats |
| 22:16.35 | Antiarc | How much hit rating should a raiding hunter have? |
| 22:18.19 | QuantumDelta | I don't know in rating but 13% |
| 22:18.35 | QuantumDelta | or actually it's not VITAL to have 13% anymore |
| 22:19.27 | vithos | you mean 9% |
| 22:19.27 | Aeyan | 95 with 3/3 surefooted |
| 22:19.49 | vithos | but hit rating is one of the worst dps stats for a hunter |
| 22:19.53 | vithos | relatively |
| 22:20.43 | QuantumDelta | they changed it from pre tbc? |
| 22:20.49 | Hallucinosis | A mage named Barrymanalow... and a warlock named Benafflock... |
| 22:21.03 | vithos | well, i should say, a BM hunter |
| 22:21.20 | vithos | it might be more valued for other specs |
| 22:22.11 | QuantumDelta | vithos did you play a raidhunter pre-tbc? |
| 22:22.16 | vithos | no |
| 22:22.17 | kovi | haha, good names |
| 22:22.32 | kovi | on my server there's a male bloodelf warlock named norahjones |
| 22:22.33 | QuantumDelta | You're SURE it's 9% now for the hunter hitcap? |
| 22:22.33 | kovi | ???? |
| 22:22.44 | vithos | it used to be believed to be 8.5 or 8.6% |
| 22:22.54 | vithos | but people figured out this year it's 9% |
| 22:23.16 | QuantumDelta | Pre-TBC it was 13%, that was the req for tranq shot guaranteed hits |
| 22:23.35 | QuantumDelta | you needed a gear set back then, for some bosses, which indeed definitely hit that cap ;p |
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| 22:24.39 | QuantumDelta | Sadly, I ain't played my hunter since |
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| 22:25.09 | QuantumDelta | but I distinctly remember the pain caused by a resistance (NR) set that included hitcap |
| 22:25.10 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 22:25.23 | vithos | i don't see how it would have been 13% |
| 22:25.38 | vithos | base miss is 5%, and it'd have been 3 levels different back then too |
| 22:25.47 | vithos | so 15 skill different |
| 22:25.52 | QuantumDelta | That's why I asked if it had changed |
| 22:26.13 | QuantumDelta | because if it had changed hunters would be the only class working on a modified hitcap from pre-tbc |
| 22:26.35 | QuantumDelta | melee 1/2h classes still have 9% on styled abilities |
| 22:26.37 | NeoTron | evl: grats on illidan |
| 22:26.48 | QuantumDelta | casters are all still 17% |
| 22:26.49 | evl | and i got Cursed Vision of Sargeras :D |
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| 22:27.45 | vithos | well i don't know what you're talking about, but it's definitely 9% now |
| 22:27.54 | NeoTron | Benafflock. lawl |
| 22:28.48 | vithos | and there's no tranq-or-wipe bosses in BC. if a shot misses during misdirect it doesn't count down the stacks |
| 22:29.08 | vithos | so at worst your second hit .5 seconds later becomes the first |
| 22:29.25 | vithos | which is rarely a problem |
| 22:29.46 | QuantumDelta | so hunters got a miscellaneous boost with their revamp heh |
| 22:29.47 | QuantumDelta | cute |
| 22:31.13 | vithos | why was it 13% before? |
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| 22:33.43 | NeoTron | so another guild on my server got illidan 4 days before us (they raid 5 days per week but raided every day the week they killed him) |
| 22:34.01 | NeoTron | but this week they only managed 4 kills in BT on day one (we got 7 kills our first night this week >:-) |
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| 22:35.24 | Hallucinosis | hehe |
| 22:35.50 | QuantumDelta | vithos it just 'was' same way as it now is 'why is it 9%' :P |
| 22:35.52 | Hallucinosis | I do not miss raid schedules. =P |
| 22:36.07 | NeoTron | I enjoy raiding |
| 22:36.09 | Hallucinosis | i miss raiding, but not the schedules... |
| 22:36.13 | QuantumDelta | It was probably higher than melee styled requirements to be hit because it couldn't be dodged or parried. |
| 22:36.19 | NeoTron | although I admit it is nice to be on a farm schedule for a while |
| 22:36.22 | Hallucinosis | I enjoy raiding too, but I do not enjoy playing 4-6 days a week and having to be on consistently |
| 22:36.28 | Hallucinosis | and not being able to make plans whenever |
| 22:36.28 | NeoTron | get some gear instead of hurryingon to th enext instance |
| 22:37.23 | QuantumDelta | Hallucinosis: That's why you have a static raiding rota for days and a little bit of redundancy in each class? :P |
| 22:37.29 | Hallucinosis | yeah, my guild before I transferred to boulderfist had farmed out everything, but I stopped raiding about 2 months before I left (I was raiding until June or July) |
| 22:37.34 | QuantumDelta | Just cuz your guild raids 4-6 days a week doesn't mean you have to. |
| 22:37.46 | Hallucinosis | with my old raiding guild it pretty much did |
| 22:37.52 | Hallucinosis | there was also separate DKP for each instance |
| 22:37.57 | Hallucinosis | or Tier |
| 22:37.57 | QuantumDelta | bad :< |
| 22:38.04 | QuantumDelta | ahh |
| 22:38.07 | Hallucinosis | but #55 US ranking or something |
| 22:38.07 | QuantumDelta | key question |
| 22:38.12 | QuantumDelta | do you enjoy raiding, or do you enjoy loot |
| 22:38.13 | QuantumDelta | ;p |
| 22:38.18 | Hallucinosis | I enjoy raiding |
| 22:38.23 | QuantumDelta | then dkp shouldn't matter! |
| 22:38.36 | Hallucinosis | but the way they did it... is if you could not be on 5 days a week, you were no longer a raider |
| 22:38.44 | QuantumDelta | eh |
| 22:38.46 | Hallucinosis | and basically you would spend almost all of your time waiting to raid |
| 22:38.51 | Hallucinosis | and not get to raid |
| 22:38.54 | Hallucinosis | at all |
| 22:38.55 | Hallucinosis | basically |
| 22:38.56 | Hallucinosis | hehe |
| 22:38.58 | NeoTron | Hallucinosis: we have one DKP for 25 mans (none for 10-mans). 75% to be a core raider so 3 days per week essentially |
| 22:39.07 | chiper | I'm quite happy with our main raids being on the weekend, especially since I dont have the time during the week. |
| 22:39.09 | QuantumDelta | It's a nice idea that way |
| 22:39.18 | NeoTron | but raiders have same loot priority just, sometimes, used to determine invite priority |
| 22:39.20 | Chompers | we wiped on aran |
| 22:39.21 | QuantumDelta | it means the raid gets geared up v.quickly |
| 22:39.25 | Chompers | i guess our t5 wasnt enough |
| 22:39.34 | QuantumDelta | the problem with that is it's inhuman :P |
| 22:39.49 | NeoTron | Hallucinosis: ultra hardcore guilds ftl? |
| 22:39.52 | Hallucinosis | this guild raided 6 days a week |
| 22:40.02 | Hallucinosis | and yes, 75% |
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| 22:40.45 | Hallucinosis | it was really fun though! |
| 22:40.46 | Hallucinosis | hehe |
| 22:41.00 | Zhinjio | yeah, I prefer having a real life. |
| 22:41.16 | Hallucinosis | yeah, ultra hardcore guilds ftl |
| 22:41.23 | osstia | I play as much now as I did when I raided, but I am not tied to it |
| 22:41.37 | osstia | if I have to do something I can, I don't feel obligated. its nice |
| 22:41.50 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rb13b53356b 10./TourGuide_Horde/20_21_Stonetalon_Mountains.lua: Adding "Arachnophobia" to horde guides, quest isno longer elite |
| 22:41.50 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r08d66d7132 10./TourGuide_Alliance/65_66_Nagrand.lua: Ally Nagrand fix |
| 22:41.59 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r869c435617 10./Parser.lua: Fix debug not reporting past the first error found |
| 22:42.00 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rf7dbc80b1f 10./TourGuide_Alliance/70_Shadowmoon_Valley.lua: Ally Shadowmoon tweaks |
| 22:42.02 | chiper | I'd like to see some research into what percentage of those core raiders have fulltime jobs |
| 22:42.20 | Zhinjio | and how many are married |
| 22:42.21 | Ellipsis | WTB hardcore guild :( |
| 22:42.23 | chiper | I dislike how Blizzard's raiding system promotes unemployment :/ |
| 22:42.24 | Zhinjio | and how many WERE married |
| 22:42.37 | osstia | <--- WAS married |
| 22:42.43 | Vexir | hardcore raiding guilds are for students |
| 22:42.43 | osstia | screwed with my raiding too :P |
| 22:42.44 | Zhinjio | fuck it... how many have friends |
| 22:42.45 | Vexir | like me :) |
| 22:42.50 | Zhinjio | how many know what the word "friend" means |
| 22:42.59 | osstia | now I am divorced, and have the time to raid I don't |
| 22:43.05 | Zhinjio | how many refer to outside as the "big room with no roof" |
| 22:43.26 | chiper | how many think the people they raid with ARE their friends |
| 22:43.29 | mort | outside? what's that? |
| 22:43.50 | osstia | chiper: I was lucky that they really are my friends |
| 22:44.01 | osstia | I raided with the same folks I have gamed with for a decade now |
| 22:44.04 | Hallucinosis | yeah |
| 22:44.12 | Hallucinosis | a lot of the guys in my old guild did not have full time jobs |
| 22:44.14 | Hallucinosis | but I did |
| 22:44.24 | Hallucinosis | and it really made it difficult to have personal time for everything |
| 22:44.25 | osstia | I do a lot with my guildies outside of the game too |
| 22:44.35 | chiper | osstia: oh that's good, that way when the raid leader gets out of line you can be like, "I know where you live asshat" |
| 22:44.35 | Hallucinosis | because there was just enough time to drive home... and maybe eat... before the raids |
| 22:44.45 | Polarina | Hjalte: Seen any more gold spammers lately? :) |
| 22:45.10 | osstia | chiper: yep. I am great friends with our GM/raid leader. he is a spitting image of the Ony/MORE DIPS!!! guy |
| 22:45.15 | Hjalte | Polarina: Uninstalled the W addon when I hadnt seen any new gold spam for a while |
| 22:45.23 | chiper | you mean dots |
| 22:45.34 | osstia | and outside the game, he is calm, collected, normal guy |
| 22:45.40 | osstia | and I harass him all the time |
| 22:46.00 | osstia | haha, the gamer kids in my guild said DIPS for DPS |
| 22:46.22 | osstia | Nasty thing you pick up saying when you play with 16 yeard olds for long enough |
| 22:46.45 | NeoTron | so last night on Illidan the funniest thing happened |
| 22:46.53 | Zhinjio | question for y'all: how many of you would pay an extra ... say, $5/month if you were guaranteed to have everyone on the server be 21 years of age or older. |
| 22:47.02 | chiper | first time I heard that recording it was attached to a rather funny flash animation of a guy tossing dots around a room |
| 22:47.03 | mort | <- |
| 22:47.30 | Zhinjio | I know I would. |
| 22:47.33 | Zhinjio | no question |
| 22:47.34 | NeoTron | a Mechanical Greench got infected by a parasite leading to a rather fun phase 1 wipe |
| 22:47.37 | Ellipsis | I would |
| 22:47.44 | Ellipsis | ...except that I'm not 21 |
| 22:47.45 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 22:47.57 | chiper | zhin: in concept yes, but I'd rather just run with guilds that dont take kids |
| 22:48.01 | Zhinjio | I could be convinced that 18 is a better cutoff. |
| 22:48.10 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: mainly only would help if the whole battlegroup had such a rule no? :P |
| 22:48.15 | NeoTron | in pve I am not affected |
| 22:48.15 | Zhinjio | chiper: that works great on paper. in practice, however.... they still get in |
| 22:48.24 | Zhinjio | I don't pvp, so... |
| 22:48.26 | Zhinjio | *shrug* |
| 22:48.58 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: no they don't |
| 22:49.12 | chiper | you're right, we had a case last week of one of the guildmates letting his grandson use a character. oh that was painful |
| 22:49.20 | NeoTron | we've kicked several people obviously too young /immature from my guild |
| 22:49.33 | NeoTron | and avoid anyone below 21 even if we're rather desperate |
| 22:49.36 | Zhinjio | yup ... and the "oh, this is my son's toon ... he just wants someone to talk to" ... |
| 22:49.39 | Zhinjio | gah |
| 22:49.46 | Kivin | I'm in a guild that's only a few weeks old. Oh my god, some of the personalities we've collected. |
| 22:49.52 | NeoTron | we wouldn' let them in |
| 22:49.52 | Zhinjio | meanwhile, you have 10 screens of gchat |
| 22:49.52 | Kivin | I've kicked at least one person a day for the last ten days.... |
| 22:50.18 | Zhinjio | with lots of "WHY WONT ENY1 TALK TO ME?? |
| 22:50.25 | Zhinjio | and "I NEED HELP< PLZ |
| 22:50.36 | Kivin | We had a 24 year old high school dropout that didn't know how to read |
| 22:50.38 | chiper | "Can somebody run me through ZF?" |
| 22:50.44 | Kivin | He had his girlfriend read the guild chat and quest log to him |
| 22:50.44 | Zhinjio | right |
| 22:50.53 | chiper | "I need someone to do deadmines for me" |
| 22:51.08 | chiper | ' |
| 22:51.18 | chiper | omg, how do you play a game when you're illiterate |
| 22:51.21 | Zhinjio | thats sad |
| 22:51.24 | chiper | that's just... wow |
| 22:51.35 | Kivin | it is sad |
| 22:51.37 | chiper | how do you even use a computer? |
| 22:51.38 | Vexir | better yet |
| 22:51.45 | Vexir | how do you get a girlfriend when you're illiterate |
| 22:51.46 | Kivin | he ended up leaving the game for everquest 2, since it's easier on him or something... |
| 22:51.58 | Kivin | apparently she waits on him constantly, because he's too useless tod o anything |
| 22:52.05 | NeoTron | kivin my 6yo can read wow quest descriptions rather well.. |
| 22:52.13 | NeoTron | that dude needs to go back to school and not play wow |
| 22:52.15 | chiper | yeah, that's a GREAT relationship |
| 22:52.27 | Zhinjio | he must be really good in bed or something |
| 22:52.39 | Kivin | NeoTron: I'd not be surprised if he has some serious disability. |
| 22:52.44 | NeoTron | large trustfund perhaps? |
| 22:52.45 | chiper | no, he's probably an abusive deuche |
| 22:52.56 | chiper | there's a certain type of woman that will fall all over that |
| 22:53.24 | Kivin | I've seen a few of those... |
| 22:53.29 | Zhinjio | most of the trustfund kids I've met are actually fairly intelligent. |
| 22:53.39 | Zhinjio | and do well at least through high school |
| 22:53.40 | chiper | zhin: same |
| 22:54.04 | Zhinjio | its after that where they start to do some serious loafing |
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| 23:02.15 | bigz | anyone on who knows some french? |
| 23:02.42 | osstia | bigzero: how much french? |
| 23:02.47 | osstia | I have coworkers that speak it |
| 23:02.49 | Kivin | not enough that i'd consider localizing something |
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| 23:02.57 | Stanzilla | cow workers? |
| 23:03.00 | Stanzilla | you mean tauren? |
| 23:03.06 | osstia | co-workers |
| 23:03.09 | osstia | meaning I am at work |
| 23:03.10 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 23:03.12 | bigzero | just need to know how the following should actually be spelt "Permet de prv©visualiser les enchantements" |
| 23:03.17 | besturl | Do you want to see video and picture of nude celebrities with a forum 100% free !!! just click there => http://www.besturl.org/forum |
| 23:03.41 | osstia | YAY! nude celebs. .... |
| 23:03.45 | osstia | gtfo |
| 23:04.00 | osstia | one sec bigzero |
| 23:04.00 | Kivin | lawl |
| 23:04.07 | osstia | lemme see if I can find someone |
| 23:04.12 | bigzero | thanks |
| 23:04.33 | NivFreak | what file controls which mods are enabled for a toon/account? |
| 23:05.04 | bigzero | This guy sent me localization file, but as far as I can tell there are a lot of garbage characters in it. I'll upload it and hope that someone can fix it up |
| 23:05.19 | osstia | get me a link |
| 23:05.37 | osstia | I have a french canadian guildie who speaks better french than english |
| 23:05.40 | *** part/#wowace besturl (i=besturl@ALyon-251-1-10-210.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:05.44 | bigzero | i'll commit it in a sec |
| 23:05.47 | osstia | I bet he would look at it for you |
| 23:06.02 | osstia | I have paid his WoW subscription a few ties. he owes me :) |
| 23:06.42 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57893 10GlowFoSho/ (GlowFoSho.toc locales/Locale-frFR.lua locales/locales.xml): |
| 23:06.42 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
| 23:06.42 | CIA-8 | - Added French locales. Seems to have garbage characters in the translations though. :-( |
| 23:07.44 | bigzero | it's not a big deal, I bet someone who actually uses the mod in french would fix them up. I just wanted to get the description right in the .toc file |
| 23:08.17 | osstia | yeah, he's not online ATM |
| 23:08.26 | osstia | if I see him I will have him look at your TOC |
| 23:08.32 | bigzero | thanks |
| 23:08.41 | bigzero | Kivin, do you have any idea? |
| 23:09.17 | Kivin | I'm sorry, i'm getting garbage characters, probably because the codepage i have setup for japanese input |
| 23:10.02 | bigzero | oh well. thanks for looking at it |
| 23:10.44 | NivFreak | is there something that has WAU's saved variable cleanup feature that I can use on my mac? |
| 23:11.02 | bigzero | delete the WTF folder? |
| 23:11.06 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:11.38 | bigzero | should even work on a MAC...but MACs suck so idk |
| 23:12.38 | NivFreak | and why do macs suck? |
| 23:12.43 | NivFreak | enlighten me |
| 23:13.05 | mort | because they don't blow |
| 23:13.08 | NivFreak | heh |
| 23:13.25 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: i only see one garbage character in that locale-frFR.lua |
| 23:13.47 | Kivin | de prv©v <- shows up after the R for me |
| 23:14.15 | Kivin | I get a japanese katakana 'a' |
| 23:14.26 | Arrowmaster | switch to unicode |
| 23:14.30 | Kivin | no thanks |
| 23:14.39 | Arrowmaster | its mostly encoded in utf8 |
| 23:14.43 | Kivin | stickin with shift jis |
| 23:14.57 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57894 10ForeverAFK/ForeverAFK.lua: |
| 23:14.57 | CIA-8 | ForeverAFK: |
| 23:14.57 | CIA-8 | - forgot to return a hooked function. Probably would have never mattered anyway, but better safe than sorry. |
| 23:15.10 | Arrowmaster | you use shift jis for everything? |
| 23:15.14 | Kivin | Yep |
| 23:15.18 | Arrowmaster | and not for just non unicode stuff? |
| 23:15.22 | Kivin | It's transparent for ascii and most utf8 |
| 23:15.35 | Kivin | Except that i see \ as a yen symbol |
| 23:16.16 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: the file does not start with the unicode bytes, i think thats the problem |
| 23:16.38 | Arrowmaster | i switched my browser to display it as unicode |
| 23:16.46 | Arrowmaster | and only see 1 garbage character |
| 23:17.02 | Arrowmaster | wow reads everything as utf8 with or without a bom |
| 23:17.27 | Megalon | oh, then. didn't know that |
| 23:17.33 | osstia | bigzero: he says s/v |
| 23:17.44 | bigzero | s/v? |
| 23:18.33 | Arrowmaster | its best to use utf8 bom's though so that editing programes dont fuck shit up if theyre smart enough to recognize it |
| 23:18.46 | osstia | previsualiser |
| 23:19.07 | osstia | the e should have an accent mark if you have the ascci char, I don't know it off the top of my head |
| 23:19.08 | chiper | niv! |
| 23:19.13 | osstia | then its perfect french |
| 23:19.20 | bigzero | osstia, thank you |
| 23:19.44 | osstia | yw |
| 23:20.20 | Arrowmaster | the only garbage character i see in that file is ["Suspended"] = "D?sactivé", |
| 23:20.26 | Arrowmaster | after the D |
| 23:20.58 | Kivin | I see that too |
| 23:21.34 | Arrowmaster | ~x en fr Suspended |
| 23:22.12 | Megalon | it should mean 'Désactivé' i think |
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| 23:22.17 | Megalon | he translated it as deactivated |
| 23:22.29 | Arrowmaster | ~x en fr Deactivated |
| 23:22.36 | Kivin | heh now i see a chinese character instead of a question mark :) |
| 23:22.43 | Arrowmaster | ~x fr en Désactivé |
| 23:22.50 | Megalon | hm |
| 23:22.53 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:22.54 | bigzero | lol |
| 23:23.01 | Arrowmaster | fail babblefish |
| 23:23.29 | Megalon | :C |
| 23:24.00 | bigzero | ~x en fr preview |
| 23:24.09 | Kivin | that came out okay on my screen |
| 23:24.19 | Kivin | a correct translation, to boot |
| 23:25.03 | bigzero | alright...now that I switched Notepad++ to UTF-8, it's all good :) |
| 23:25.32 | Kivin | yeah, i see the garbled text okay in npp |
| 23:26.21 | Arrowmaster | i use SciTE and have a SciTEDirectory.properties file in my WoW dir with the line 'code.page=65001' |
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| 23:26.47 | Arrowmaster | any file i open from my wow dir is defaulted to utf8 even if it doesnt have a utf8 bom |
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| 23:31.21 | thul | I'm worn |
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| 23:34.30 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57895 10GlowFoSho/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:34.30 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
| 23:34.30 | CIA-8 | - Only 1 garbage character in French translation after all. Fixed. |
| 23:34.30 | CIA-8 | - Removed warning about not secure links disconnecting, because they don't anymore. Need zhTW and zhCN translations to be adjusted. |
| 23:34.59 | Kivin | They disconnect if you query them too fast, but I guess that's not the same thing |
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| 23:37.13 | bigzero | yeah, it used to disconnect you if the item has not been seen on the server since restart |
| 23:37.24 | Kivin | yep |
| 23:40.32 | chiper | that's what it was? I thought it was just something they hadn't approved the server to have |
| 23:41.01 | Kivin | once at least one person on the server had the item, it was safe to link |
| 23:41.12 | Kivin | or something |
| 23:41.13 | deltron | it still does that right? |
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| 23:41.22 | Kivin | you can query phoney items, it just doesn't drop you |
| 23:41.28 | Kivin | if you try to put the link in chat, i think it does, though |
| 23:41.53 | Brunera | how can i rename a servers tag in irssi? |
| 23:41.54 | deltron | deprecated tauren trapper pants ahoy! |
| 23:44.29 | bigzero | Kivin, now the link just doesn't work if you send it over chat. like you can't click it |
| 23:44.42 | Kivin | bigzero: I see |
| 23:45.05 | Kivin | bigzero: that's right... i recall sending the wrong colour in links in Lootzor a while back, the link didn't disconnect, but couldn't be clicked |
| 23:45.24 | thul | hmm, i want a social ravencrestguild:P |
| 23:45.29 | bigzero | how can I make tortoiseSVN not download externals when I do svn update. It seems to get them even if i check out with "Omit externals" option checked |
| 23:45.47 | Kivin | then they aren't externals, but actually part of the package... |
| 23:46.04 | Kivin | make sure you're commiting with externals set |
| 23:46.27 | bigzero | i do and when i do svn update it says External whe it's downloading |
| 23:46.55 | bigzero | initial check-out comes without externals though |
| 23:48.26 | Matrix110 | bigzero you have to do rightclick-> Tortoise SVN -> Update to Revision.... -> omit externals |
| 23:48.38 | bigzero | every time?...ghay |
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| 23:53.08 | thul | hmm |
| 23:53.15 | thul | who here was alliance rc? :-P |
| 23:53.54 | Pkekyo| | I know some twat that's nolifing alliance rc...does that count? :p |
| 23:54.14 | thul | yeah, make him gief a msg:P |
| 23:54.32 | Pkekyo| | can't get to him, he's busy nolifing :p |
| 23:55.20 | thul | : |
| 23:55.21 | thul | :-( |
| 23:56.52 | Pkekyo| | haven't seen him outside for a year tbh :p |
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