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| 00:02.17 | CIA-4 | 03sayclub * r58505 10GridStatusHealer/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 00:02.17 | CIA-4 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 00:02.17 | CIA-4 | - koKR Update |
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| 00:25.34 | CIA-4 | 037destiny * r58506 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: koKR Update |
| 00:33.03 | harldephin | are there any race-based colours as there are for the classes? |
| 00:33.16 | Kivin | don't think so |
| 00:33.37 | harldephin | hm ok |
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| 00:42.17 | CIA-4 | 03pericles * r58507 10InventoryOnPar/ (InventoryOnPar.lua InventoryOnParUI.lua): |
| 00:42.17 | CIA-4 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 00:42.17 | CIA-4 | - |
| 00:42.17 | CIA-4 | v8.13 - Added average score display to party/raid only lists |
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| 00:51.54 | chiper | what does inventoryonpar do? |
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| 01:04.27 | Fin | kergoth: pong |
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| 01:08.45 | kergoth | Fin: noticed an oddity with your addon update monitor site, when you input an ignore regex (or load one from a profile), and click update, the url it loads appears to have the encoding done twice. i.e. %24 for $ ends up as %2524, a literal %24 goes into the ignore input box |
| 01:09.06 | kergoth | Fin: had to manually fix the few instances of that in the url to get the rss url to actually ignore stuff :) |
| 01:13.55 | Fin | kergoth: oh dear, sorry about that - I'll have a look |
| 01:14.04 | Fin | I've been meaning to spend some time on it actually |
| 01:14.30 | Fin | it seriously needs a way to search the db, and I want to be able to ignore specific addons etc. |
| 01:14.42 | Fin | probably going to add some simple user registration thingy, just so people can save their preferences and stuff |
| 01:15.03 | Fin | not that the world needs another place to sign up |
| 01:15.13 | kergoth | no biggie, got it going |
| 01:15.17 | kergoth | just wanted to make sure you knew |
| 01:15.36 | Fin | much obliged for the info, thanks |
| 01:18.09 | Antiarc | So, I've decied that gnomes should be hunters |
| 01:18.15 | Antiarc | But instead of taming pets, they have to kill an animal carefully and dissect it |
| 01:18.20 | Antiarc | Then build a mechanical version of it |
| 01:18.29 | Antiarc | I want a tiny gnome with a giant pet mecha-raptor. |
| 01:18.37 | Antiarc | named Gojira |
| 01:19.18 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 01:20.15 | Chompers | even squirrels |
| 01:20.29 | buu | Antiarc: I've decided that gnomes shouldn't exist. For being dumb. |
| 01:20.49 | Antiarc | buu: My gnome will use her mecha-raptor to kick your ass, and then eat it. |
| 01:21.17 | buu | Antiarc: They look so damn stupid in the game. |
| 01:21.35 | Antiarc | buu: All the better when you are humiliatingly defeated by one |
| 01:21.48 | Antiarc | Losing to a badass undead guy with knives and bones sticking out? Okay |
| 01:22.00 | buu | I've never lost to a gnome |
| 01:22.02 | Antiarc | Losing to a 2-foot-tall pink-haired gnome named Bubbles? That right there is humiliation. |
| 01:22.04 | buu | Because they're all terrible. |
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| 01:22.55 | kagaro | evening |
| 01:23.24 | kagaro | ping Ammo |
| 01:25.26 | kergoth | Fin: suppose you could look into using openid. dont know much about it, but wouldnt need to register then |
| 01:25.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:26.56 | kagaro | anyone wana do a little code review for me ? |
| 01:28.47 | kagaro | kergoth: you wana take a look for me? |
| 01:29.40 | kergoth | sure, what is it? |
| 01:30.03 | kagaro | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/GatherMate |
| 01:30.17 | kagaro | just need a second set of eye to look over it to make sure im not doing something stupid |
| 01:30.41 | kagaro | if you dont mind |
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| 01:42.05 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r58508 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: |
| 01:42.05 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:42.05 | CIA-4 | -Updated JC rarity for patterns |
| 01:53.15 | Antiarc | Someone tell me about an awesome addon I'm probably not using |
| 01:53.41 | kagaro | mine isnt awsome atm Antiarc |
| 01:53.47 | Cryect | kTM ;) |
| 01:53.53 | Wobin | ControlFreak? |
| 01:53.53 | Cryect | :-p |
| 01:53.54 | Antiarc | I use KTM |
| 01:53.55 | Antiarc | Next |
| 01:54.04 | Cryect | haha, you still comparing KTM to OMen? |
| 01:54.07 | exor674 | Omen > KTM |
| 01:54.12 | kagaro | eePanels2 :P |
| 01:54.15 | Antiarc | I keep KTM installed for testing purposes |
| 01:54.18 | Antiarc | I use eepanels |
| 01:54.19 | kagaro | for UI of awsomeness |
| 01:54.34 | Antiarc | http://www.gameater.com/hilary-clinton-to-play-prostitute-in-gta-4/ |
| 01:54.36 | Antiarc | err |
| 01:54.38 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/ui-1-13-2008-bt.jpg |
| 01:55.19 | Paene | Ping Xinhuan |
| 01:56.45 | Wobin | 1900 dps? |
| 01:56.47 | Wobin | >< |
| 01:56.56 | Antiarc | That's just trash |
| 01:56.58 | Wobin | craaaazy |
| 01:56.59 | [AR]Camci | Yo, i have a question about Ahn'Qiraj Lore.. Been looking at WoWWiki but cant find it. Anyone good at Ahn'Qiraj Lore? |
| 01:57.31 | kagaro | http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/washu214/?action=view¤t=ScreenShot_121807_225500.jpg |
| 01:57.35 | [AR]Camci | Lore wise... who opened the gate? was it them or did we? |
| 01:57.59 | kagaro | I think mine is cleaner Antiarc |
| 02:00.48 | Paene | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10865.msg171655;topicseen#new does this link work for anyone else? |
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| 02:00.59 | kagaro | not me |
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| 02:01.24 | Paene | weird |
| 02:03.55 | Paene | [AR]Camci: I thought the gate was constructed after a long war to hold them in, since we were unable to win. |
| 02:06.57 | kagaro | ZA time, back later |
| 02:08.02 | CIA-4 | 03swearl * r58509 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-zhCN.lua: |
| 02:08.02 | CIA-4 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: |
| 02:08.02 | CIA-4 | - Update locale zhCN |
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| 02:15.52 | Nefarion | anyone here know of a good free screen capture program? |
| 02:16.05 | Antiarc | Like printscreen? |
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| 02:16.23 | Nefarion | video i mean |
| 02:17.45 | Antiarc | There's one with a weird name I can't remember |
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| 02:19.07 | Antiarc | Here it is |
| 02:19.08 | Antiarc | Taski |
| 02:19.11 | Antiarc | Err |
| 02:19.12 | Antiarc | Taksi |
| 02:19.24 | Antiarc | http://taksi.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:19.28 | Nefarion | found it thanks |
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| 02:21.12 | ulic | last update june 22, 06 eh? is it still active at all? |
| 02:21.20 | Antiarc | I dunno |
| 02:23.27 | ulic | in july of 07 some claimed it was still alive, just hadn't had time to work on it |
| 02:35.32 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth * r58510 10mHud/mHud.lua: mHud: also register UNIT_FOCUS for mana updating, so the pet mana bar works. |
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| 02:44.06 | kergoth | hrmm |
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| 02:50.06 | Fin | that's a good idea about openid |
| 02:50.11 | Fin | although |
| 02:50.40 | Fin | I was thinking about making all the profiles passwordless - if you want to change anything you just create a new profile name or whatever |
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| 03:03.33 | CIA-4 | 03cronan * r58511 10DrDamage/Data/Mage.lua: |
| 03:03.33 | CIA-4 | DrDamage: |
| 03:03.33 | CIA-4 | - Shaman and Mage both has Elemental Precision. Babble-Spell has only one Elemental Precision. |
| 03:03.33 | CIA-4 | WoW KR has two different translation for Shaman and Mage. How can we handle this? :( |
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| 03:06.38 | xyu | Trying Archimonde for first time today! Any points for me (mage) ? ^_^ |
| 03:07.37 | Aens|Superiority | make sure you know how to dispel with a range checking mod |
| 03:07.49 | Aens|Superiority | and, you aren't doing dps, the melee is |
| 03:08.54 | Aens|Superiority | your job is to take care of the curses. Stay alive and not get doomfired. You can do 0 damage on the fight, decursed everything and stayed up the entire fight and you'll have done your job. |
| 03:14.22 | FtH|Daemona | wow, just wow... |
| 03:14.39 | FtH|Daemona | i havent seen that many afk'ers and that many BOTS in a single AV for quite some time. |
| 03:15.13 | FtH|Daemona | 40 ppl on my side, when the gate went up 10 moved out. 15 portet instantly to the horde base |
| 03:15.21 | FtH|Daemona | spamming tab + ranged dps ability |
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| 03:18.50 | xyu | well our first attempt ended about 50 seconds into the encounter :P |
| 03:19.09 | buu | FtH|Daemona: Wouldn't it be hilarious if you could like tell someone at blizzard and they would care? |
| 03:19.34 | FtH|Daemona | yeah... like with a "report afk" function, would be great, wouldnt it? |
| 03:19.59 | buu | Yeah, what a brilliant idea. |
| 03:20.07 | FtH|Daemona | i did 3 avs atempting to do the daily |
| 03:20.28 | FtH|Daemona | after the 2nd i just checked the score board and reported all with 0/0/0 stats |
| 03:20.42 | FtH|Daemona | no regret |
| 03:21.13 | FtH|Daemona | the funny thing is, this only happens for HORDE in my realmpool |
| 03:21.33 | FtH|Daemona | the alliance side actively rushes and wins the bg in like ... 10 minutes with PERFECT score... |
| 03:21.50 | buu | FtH|Daemona: haha |
| 03:22.08 | buu | FtH|Daemona: There are a whole bunch of BGs where the horde has shut the allies out so many times in a row they get like 60 minute queues. |
| 03:22.10 | FtH|Daemona | last bg ended like 582 / 0 for alliance |
| 03:22.20 | buu | Oh wow. |
| 03:23.46 | FtH|Daemona | i ended my game session with opening a ticket for "Jeeper" and "Overnuker" of a guild whose name translated is kinda "in ur face" ... i thought, perfect guys to statueate an example |
| 03:24.23 | buu | Good luck. |
| 03:24.38 | FtH|Daemona | i am majorly pissed when i think of having to do 30 more AVs to get the tokens for my twink druids s1 mace |
| 03:24.48 | buu | I was in a WSG for like an hour, opened a ticket, played another couple of bgs and a bunch of random grinding and no answer. |
| 03:24.49 | FtH|Daemona | i doubt i will get the 27k honor in those gams... |
| 03:25.05 | buu | Poor wittle welfare epix =[ |
| 03:25.22 | FtH|Daemona | the point is, people don't work for em, they BOT em |
| 03:25.27 | FtH|Daemona | and that pisses me of |
| 03:25.33 | buu | Yes. |
| 03:25.43 | buu | Blizz just banned a whole bunch of botters recently |
| 03:25.45 | FtH|Daemona | i dont even want to start thinking of what a PvE player went through for getting his equivalents |
| 03:25.47 | buu | Removed their welfare epix also |
| 03:25.48 | buu | Hahaha. |
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| 03:29.24 | Silowyi | If you're microwave is broken |
| 03:29.34 | Silowyi | and you usually microwave something for 1:30 on high |
| 03:29.42 | Silowyi | how long should you cook it at what temperature in the stove? |
| 03:30.06 | buu | 'your' |
| 03:30.10 | buu | Silowyi: What is it? |
| 03:30.26 | Silowyi | everyone gets your and you're wrong |
| 03:30.33 | Silowyi | I tend to get it wrong, in the way that people don't |
| 03:30.34 | buu | Er, no they don't. |
| 03:30.35 | Silowyi | >.> |
| 03:30.46 | Silowyi | and such |
| 03:30.48 | Silowyi | anyway |
| 03:30.50 | buu | I don't really understand how you get it wrong =/ |
| 03:30.58 | Silowyi | I get it wrong in the wrong way :P |
| 03:31.05 | buu | I mean, I can understand always typing "your" because you're an illiterate mokey. |
| 03:31.07 | Silowyi | you're correct in that it makes no sense :P |
| 03:31.19 | Silowyi | it's also why I will something have word substitution typos |
| 03:31.27 | buu | WHAT IS THE FOOD ITEM |
| 03:31.42 | Silowyi | um... a can of chunked chicken. |
| 03:32.12 | buu | Sounds like a stove-top item actually |
| 03:32.19 | Silowyi | probably would be a good idea |
| 03:32.27 | Silowyi | maybe saute it, without the saute |
| 03:32.38 | buu | You might try filling a pan up with water, and putting the can in the middle. |
| 03:32.51 | Silowyi | interesting idea |
| 03:32.56 | buu | I mean, like, a pot. About as deep as the can. |
| 03:33.01 | buu | *shrug* |
| 03:33.12 | Silowyi | you know this can doesn't say you have to cook it before eating |
| 03:33.20 | buu | Right, microwaves don't cook things. |
| 03:33.32 | buu | All you need to do is transfer enough heat to it to make it edible. |
| 03:33.51 | buu | Well, I suppose they could cook things, but it would probably suck. |
| 03:34.35 | Silowyi | you know |
| 03:34.53 | Silowyi | it occurs to me that microsoft is not really small... as the name would imply |
| 03:41.23 | ulic | Macrosoft just sounds so limited though |
| 03:41.50 | ulic | 255 char limit :P |
| 03:42.56 | MentalPower | I think its from Microcomputer Software |
| 03:44.39 | buu | Silowyi: Did it work? |
| 03:45.10 | kergoth | dangit,s oemoen should update nshakedown |
| 03:45.12 | MentalPower | Silowyi: The name Microsoft (a portmanteau of microcomputer and software), without the hyphen, was first used in a letter from Gates to Allen on November 29, 1975,[6] and on November 26, 1976 the name became a registered trademark. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft#1975.E2.80.931985:_The_founding_of_Microsoft) |
| 03:45.13 | kergoth | hrm |
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| 04:00.49 | Fisker- | lol |
| 04:01.30 | Neebler | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1336/timberwr4.gif |
| 04:09.28 | xyu | hm |
| 04:09.35 | xyu | the NPC that gives out Tears of the goddess has despawned |
| 04:09.38 | xyu | does she come back? |
| 04:09.46 | xyu | Whisperwind |
| 04:09.56 | durcyn | she despawns if you wipe |
| 04:10.00 | durcyn | give it a minute |
| 04:10.05 | xyu | ok |
| 04:10.13 | xyu | yeah we wipe about 50 seconds into the fight :P |
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| 04:31.25 | Neebler | http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=qco587qeo1 |
| 04:31.33 | Neebler | hyuk hyuk hyuk |
| 04:35.13 | kimkay | AG_UnitFrames won't store profiles properly for me... :( Is this a known issue? if not, where do I need to report the bug? |
| 04:40.26 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r58512 10Cryolysis2/core/events.lua: |
| 04:40.26 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 04:40.26 | CIA-4 | - Fixed mount not updating when switching mounts around in your bags |
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| 04:43.30 | Nefarion | anyone know of a mount-equip mod for handling the riding crop? every one i've tried (including full equipment mods) either won't properly equip it all the time, won't properly queue an equip if i dismount in combat, or will equip random shit at random times.. |
| 04:46.31 | Codayus | MountME |
| 04:53.40 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth * r58513 10mHud/ (mHud.lua mHud.toc): mHud: Fix typo. s/agro/aggro/g; |
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| 05:06.46 | yssaril | anyone here from the ace3 crew? |
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| 05:15.02 | dre^ | woof. first kael kill! that crap is hard, heh |
| 05:16.12 | Killmore | grats for kael ! |
| 05:16.18 | Killmore | and no, he's not hard :P |
| 05:16.22 | dre^ | thanks :) |
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| 05:16.41 | dre^ | well, for a first timer, he is... doing it with a t6 guild though, getting keyed and all that. |
| 05:17.13 | dre^ | nothing's hard once you know it... the difficulty seems to be in the density of mechanics / time |
| 05:17.35 | dre^ | just in general, *shrug* |
| 05:17.58 | Kivin | people in here are quick to forget about their learning experiences with raid bosses, or something |
| 05:18.19 | Kivin | I've heard people say most every boss up to and included illidan is easy, in this channel |
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| 05:18.35 | dre^ | heh yeah it's all relative |
| 05:19.03 | Kivin | *shrug* we've been stuck on Prince since the end of November, so grats |
| 05:19.14 | dre^ | just gotta learn the dances... I'm sorta impressed there is as much variety in boss fights as there is. |
| 05:19.28 | dre^ | yeah, prince can be a bastard. have you tried the wall 'hack' method? |
| 05:19.40 | xyu | welp our archimonde attempts are over, best result 44% qq |
| 05:19.43 | Kivin | no. i think they tried it without me there and it never worked |
| 05:19.47 | dre^ | it may be 'fixed' in 2.3.2, unsure... but I can tell you about it if you want |
| 05:19.50 | dre^ | ah ok |
| 05:19.53 | Kivin | we've pretty much given up on ever killing prince |
| 05:20.12 | Kivin | we only did him this week because we had cleared everything else, nightbane excluded |
| 05:20.16 | dre^ | well maybe the team is undergeared |
| 05:20.20 | Kivin | maybe |
| 05:20.21 | Stanzilla | Kivin: illidan is easy if you have people that know how to play their chars.... |
| 05:20.36 | Kivin | Stanzilla: no comment |
| 05:20.48 | Stanzilla | mkay .( |
| 05:21.06 | dre^ | if you don't have the dps, it can feel like you're failing for other reasons |
| 05:21.09 | Kivin | dre^: For a while, I think it was the healers being the bottleneck. We could never solve keeping the tank alive through phase 2 |
| 05:21.12 | dre^ | like cna't heal enough, can't move enough |
| 05:21.17 | dre^ | but make sure you're hitting the dps threshold |
| 05:21.26 | Kivin | this week, i think we crossed that hump, though |
| 05:21.42 | dre^ | ah, good. ya I love resto druids for that fight |
| 05:21.44 | Kivin | reorganized our cooldowns so we were perpetually bloodlusted through phase 2... that helped |
| 05:22.01 | Kivin | but we still died at 17%, then 14% |
| 05:22.11 | Kivin | the infernals finally swamped us |
| 05:22.26 | dre^ | if you really are swamped by infernals, that means not enough dps |
| 05:22.28 | Kivin | both times, had one on all 3 sides of us, then the next one finally dropped on our heads and it was lights out |
| 05:22.30 | Stanzilla | Kivin: where do you tank him? |
| 05:22.33 | Kivin | yeah, i agree |
| 05:22.50 | Kivin | Stanzilla: Our usual warrior tank would have his back to the wall immediately across the floor from the door you enter |
| 05:22.57 | dre^ | I suggest saving a bloodlust for phase 3 |
| 05:23.11 | Kivin | our beartank this week was more to the left (looking in the door), farther across the hall |
| 05:23.16 | Stanzilla | hm |
| 05:23.16 | dre^ | in teh dps gear. let healer group BL in phase 2 if they need it to get hte heals off |
| 05:23.21 | Stanzilla | there's a dead spot |
| 05:23.26 | dre^ | er, in the dps *group* I meant |
| 05:23.29 | Stanzilla | where you cant be reached by infernals |
| 05:23.39 | Kivin | well, we wont have a second bloodlust coming next week. we'll be back to priest + shamanm |
| 05:23.39 | dre^ | ya he said he'd tried that |
| 05:23.43 | dre^ | (stan) |
| 05:23.55 | Stanzilla | ah k |
| 05:24.31 | Kivin | but i agree about the dps thing. it may very well be that we just aren't killing him fast enough |
| 05:24.34 | dre^ | but consider not going balls out on phase 2, that's usually what phase3 is |
| 05:24.44 | dre^ | due to the infernal spawn times |
| 05:24.57 | Kivin | tbh, i don't really understand what happens in phase 3 |
| 05:25.03 | Kivin | this was the first week i've been able to get us into it |
| 05:25.06 | dre^ | axes come out, infeble stops |
| 05:25.18 | dre^ | shadow nova continues, infernals obviously continue at an accelerated rate :) |
| 05:25.32 | dre^ | which is why phase 3 is typically the fastest burn |
| 05:25.39 | Kivin | okay, wasn't sure if i was imagining the faster infernals |
| 05:25.39 | dre^ | you're racing the infernals |
| 05:25.53 | Kivin | if we ever do prince again, we'll have to reassess that |
| 05:26.03 | dre^ | I have some videos of the encounter if they'd be useful to you |
| 05:26.14 | Kivin | we are undergeared, at least i am (+1200 unbuffed heals) so it is sort of an uphill battle just making it to phase 3 |
| 05:26.23 | dre^ | yeah that's kinda rough |
| 05:26.33 | Kivin | depending on the medium, most videos i've seen of any raid are too blurry to really get much out of them |
| 05:26.34 | dre^ | just gotta be on top of the consumables / mana tide |
| 05:26.43 | Kivin | mana isn't really an issue |
| 05:26.45 | dre^ | mine are all high res, I don't use youtube or anything |
| 05:27.02 | Kivin | I'm walking around with 11k mp, around 250mp5 with water shield and manastream |
| 05:27.23 | dre^ | 250 while casting? |
| 05:27.25 | Kivin | yes |
| 05:27.38 | dre^ | I think you may have over-itemized for mp5, heh |
| 05:27.42 | dre^ | if you only have 1200 +heal |
| 05:27.47 | Kivin | Perhaps |
| 05:27.52 | Kivin | !c Basolisu Alias |
| 05:28.17 | Kivin | peh, no idea how to use that bot |
| 05:28.55 | Ellipsis | you have to specify eu/us before the realm |
| 05:29.12 | Kivin | Can't you search with guide instead of realm? and how do you format a realm with two words "Cenarion Circle" |
| 05:29.17 | dre^ | !c Jindi us Alias |
| 05:29.19 | dre^ | er |
| 05:29.23 | dre^ | !c Jindi us Ysera |
| 05:29.25 | Kivin | dre if you're interested: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Basolisu |
| 05:29.35 | Ellipsis | !c us ysera jindi |
| 05:29.38 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Jindi, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/0/61). 11024 HP; 10043 Mana; 188 mana regen; 84 mp5; 10848 Armour; 574 AP; 82.300 Melee DPS; 4.24% melee crit; 222 spell crit; 656 +spell dmg; 1615 +heal; 4.24% dodge; 5.00% block; 406 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1232 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23wny6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2w9d65 ][ Updated: Tue Jan 15 00:36:31 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:29.39 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 05:29.44 | dre^ | hah neat |
| 05:29.58 | dre^ | let's see... that's pvp gear I guess |
| 05:29.58 | Kivin | mana regen is lower atm because i changed some gear around and got some upgrades that aren't enchanted yet |
| 05:30.47 | dre^ | ThraeBot should look at the player's spec and tailor the output accordingly. like mele dps is a useless stat for me :) |
| 05:31.24 | Kivin | 1279 heals, 201 regen in the 5 |
| 05:31.24 | Stanzilla | !c eu zirkel%20des%20cenarius Arcádia |
| 05:31.25 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: Arcádia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 05:31.38 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 05:31.59 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: halp! :( |
| 05:32.03 | Kivin | !c us Cenarion Circle Basolisu |
| 05:32.06 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Basolisu, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/7/54). 7338 HP; 9915 Mana; 227 mana regen; 101 mp5; 3895 Armour; 4.03% melee crit; 38 spell crit; 558 +spell dmg; 1279 +heal; 4.03% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 960 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22k3hn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2utqmm ][ Updated: Tue Jan 15 00:38:59 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:32.22 | Ellipsis | spaces work fine Stanzilla o.O; |
| 05:32.33 | Stanzilla | last time i tried they didn't |
| 05:32.35 | dre^ | you might wanna slap on a shield for prince phase 3 if you don't do that, hehe |
| 05:32.45 | dre^ | have you got triptech yet? |
| 05:32.46 | Stanzilla | !c eu Zirkel des Cenarius Arcádia |
| 05:32.46 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: Arcádia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 05:32.56 | dre^ | (kivin) |
| 05:32.56 | Kivin | dre^: still using crystal pulse |
| 05:33.00 | dre^ | *nod* |
| 05:33.17 | Kivin | chess has dropped us a defender and a random peice of sharded crap like six weeks in a row |
| 05:33.42 | dre^ | blarg |
| 05:33.50 | Kivin | maiden is the same way |
| 05:33.56 | Kivin | it's always plate that gets sharded |
| 05:34.01 | dre^ | you're gear is good, though you could find some nice upgrades from badge rewards or even pvp items |
| 05:34.15 | Kivin | i haven't looked at the badge rewards as close as i maybe should be |
| 05:34.22 | Kivin | i know the shield and accessories are mostly trash |
| 05:34.31 | dre^ | ya wait for the triptech shield |
| 05:34.46 | dre^ | there are trinkets / totems worth looking at |
| 05:34.55 | Kivin | i rather like my chain heal totem |
| 05:35.00 | Kivin | trinkets could be replaced easily, though |
| 05:35.01 | dre^ | but you already have healing rains... took me forever to get that |
| 05:35.11 | dre^ | ya but consider that totems can be swapped in combat |
| 05:35.13 | dre^ | load up! |
| 05:35.21 | Kivin | meh |
| 05:35.25 | dre^ | if you don't pvp you can probably even get away with using /equip macros for all your heal spells |
| 05:35.29 | Kivin | i don't do heroics on that char, so badges are somewhat short supply |
| 05:35.51 | Stanzilla | you get 22 badges for 1 kara run |
| 05:35.53 | Kivin | basolisu has been reduced to being an alt, so i don't really do *anything* on him but kara |
| 05:36.03 | dre^ | but interruptions when you're doing the /cast ; /equip thing for totems means you get stuck in a lot of GCDs from the item switches... sucks |
| 05:36.54 | dre^ | ya even if you can't kill prince, that's still like 19 badges, hehe |
| 05:37.11 | Kivin | we haven't really considered nightbane either since we can't kill prince |
| 05:37.27 | Kivin | we one shotted netherspite last night on our first time seeing him, though |
| 05:37.30 | dre^ | I suggest trying it at least a few times a week... people need to learn the fight |
| 05:37.42 | dre^ | oh, nightbane |
| 05:37.49 | dre^ | ya that fight is much easier, just usually longer |
| 05:38.05 | Kivin | sorta got to put it into perspective... this is all new content to us... we don't generally really make it this far in the tower, or haven't really historically got this far |
| 05:38.07 | dre^ | people typically have a harder time on netherspite due to the complexity |
| 05:38.16 | Kivin | netherspite just "clicked" for us |
| 05:38.29 | Kivin | healing was a bitch, i was so confused because the hp bars change so quickly |
| 05:38.39 | dre^ | heh yeah |
| 05:38.39 | Kivin | tank goes from 8k to 59k to 16k to 61k hp |
| 05:38.56 | dre^ | ya, only have to worry about the tank at the start of the phase, other times he's pretty much ok |
| 05:39.06 | Kivin | i was just whack-a-moleing my chain heal key and hoping for the best |
| 05:39.18 | dre^ | ever try standing in teh green beam? |
| 05:39.20 | Kivin | it was a sloppy run, we had 5 or 6 dead when he went down |
| 05:39.32 | Kivin | nope, healers were kept partitioned off from the beams |
| 05:39.40 | dre^ | http://dreness.com/wowblog/?p=18 |
| 05:39.51 | Kivin | tanks shared green and red and we had a mage, warlock, and two s-priests doing the blue |
| 05:39.53 | dre^ | can pump out some rediculous healing in there, but.. in the end, probably not worth it |
| 05:40.04 | dre^ | the graph pretty much explains why |
| 05:40.20 | Kivin | cool |
| 05:40.30 | Kivin | I don't think it's required though. more for goofin off than anything |
| 05:40.40 | dre^ | ya I don't take the green beam anymore |
| 05:40.46 | dre^ | due to teh mana drain |
| 05:40.48 | xyu | the key to prince is 60% - 30% |
| 05:40.55 | xyu | beat that, and you're gold |
| 05:40.55 | Kivin | With 2 healers (we usually have 3), we wern't at all hard pressed to keep up on netherspite. We just didn't know what was happening around us, else we could have salvaged a much cleaner run |
| 05:41.09 | dre^ | xyu: maybe not ;) they're dying on phase 3, heh |
| 05:41.12 | Kivin | we beat 60-30 three times last night |
| 05:41.22 | Kivin | then got smooshed by infernals |
| 05:41.24 | xyu | really, wow ^^ |
| 05:41.25 | dre^ | I think it's cause they're blowing the load in phase 2 |
| 05:41.29 | dre^ | instead of phase 3 |
| 05:41.40 | Kivin | very probably |
| 05:41.45 | xyu | is it mana probs? |
| 05:41.52 | Kivin | no, just too much happens in phase 3 |
| 05:41.58 | dre^ | we have always done phase 2 as a stepped up, sustained dps, but no big CDs |
| 05:41.59 | xyu | is the tank dying or the people getting axes? |
| 05:42.01 | Kivin | we've got people dropping from exhaustion, pretty much |
| 05:42.03 | dre^ | and then phase 3 is ultra-burn |
| 05:42.11 | Kivin | the infernals killed us twice in a row: 17% and 14% respectively |
| 05:42.30 | xyu | well as a desperation, you can (on phase 3 ) move in with the tank |
| 05:42.41 | Kivin | we were sort of catching our breath on P3 because we'd thrown everything we had on the table in P2. Bloodlusts, elementals, all our cooldowns |
| 05:42.54 | dre^ | yeah, I've been in groups that have had to pile onto the tank at hte end if infernals are really bad |
| 05:42.56 | Kivin | i didn't know that, and will share it with my raid lead tomorrow |
| 05:43.09 | dre^ | only as a last resort though |
| 05:43.12 | dre^ | shadow novas still hurt |
| 05:43.15 | xyu | yeah don't do it if avoidable |
| 05:43.18 | xyu | you still get knockbacks |
| 05:43.25 | xyu | but no enfeeble is the reason you can go in |
| 05:43.30 | Kivin | the way our 17% run ended was three infernals very close around us |
| 05:43.39 | Kivin | like, one step in any direction except prince would be doom |
| 05:43.45 | Kivin | then the 4th dropped right on our heads |
| 05:44.10 | Kivin | it didn't help though that we had no reliable infernal-caller |
| 05:44.14 | xyu | that's when you call an entire raid move, it's tough but can be done. tank has to drag prince through all that. while you guys relocate to other side of room. |
| 05:44.22 | dre^ | also keep in mind that sometimes it's better to move prince further while there's still room... don't always go for the closest safe spot, think about the entire platform and how long each infernal has been up, and which will despawn soon |
| 05:44.37 | Kivin | aye |
| 05:44.54 | xyu | a lot of people complain about the "randomness" of the fight. but i really think no matter what situation is thrown at you, it can be accomplished |
| 05:44.58 | dre^ | elixir of demon detection can work to spot 'em if needed |
| 05:44.59 | xyu | it's just some take a lot of work |
| 05:45.07 | Kivin | The girl we put on infernal duty at the beginning was completely overwhelmed. I don't think she called a single infernals landing |
| 05:45.18 | dre^ | heh, yeah it's flustering if you're not ready for it |
| 05:45.33 | Kivin | On try 3, we switched it out to some new guy we picked up for the run, and he did a pretty good job, though he was still scrambling |
| 05:45.36 | xyu | i'm a mage, imo, mages make pretty good infernal callers ^^ |
| 05:45.39 | dre^ | I might suggest the mod 'improved camera', and a max zoom out with topdown view |
| 05:45.43 | xyu | since we just spam fireball x8 scorch. :P |
| 05:46.05 | Kivin | yeah, the guy we used to have calling infernals was our mage, but he left the raid |
| 05:46.10 | Kivin | he was fantastic at it |
| 05:47.53 | xyu | every tank has their own favorite spot to tank him too. mine is far right corner. The side the door is on but the corner that's ahead. :D |
| 05:48.33 | Kivin | our beartank did a better job than our usual warrior tank with moving him around |
| 05:48.52 | Kivin | except on try two, the infernal guy said "move left" and the tank had his camera facing his character, not prince |
| 05:48.55 | Kivin | and went right as a result |
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| 05:49.13 | dre^ | north / south / east / west ftw! |
| 05:49.31 | Kivin | we always use fwd, back, left, right relative to standing in the doorway, looking at prince |
| 05:50.22 | xyu | that would be tough, even w/ the camera panned around, if he uses his mouse to turn it should turn his bear around instantly so he'd be facing the wrong direction :P |
| 05:50.28 | xyu | unless he used the "flip camera" button |
| 05:50.41 | Kivin | we've never had a problem |
| 05:50.54 | Kivin | that one time being the exception |
| 05:51.02 | Kivin | we all realized what went wrong the second it happened and it never happened again |
| 05:52.53 | Kivin | level 69 is the worst |
| 05:53.27 | Kivin | feels like it goes on forever |
| 05:54.02 | xyu | yeah wasn't like 59 back in the day of 60 caps. |
| 05:54.09 | xyu | 59 was probably my fastest level ever |
| 05:54.26 | Kivin | yeah, i did 51-59 in a matter of a few days |
| 05:54.45 | Kivin | then i think i chained strath over and over to fill in the rest |
| 05:54.55 | Kivin | woot my seven of furies sold |
| 05:55.01 | bigzero | lua> string.match(nil,"a") |
| 05:55.01 | lua_bot | bigzero: [string "string.match(nil,"a")"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil) |
| 05:55.22 | xyu | that thing is working now? |
| 05:55.23 | bigzero | kivin, how much did you get for it? |
| 05:55.25 | Kivin | *points at the sky* someone up there wants me to get epic flight. i've had two jewcraft patterns and a furies card drop in two days |
| 05:55.28 | Kivin | 250g |
| 05:55.52 | bigzero | ah, nice... i'm trying to get the furies deck for my druid. those cards are so expensive :-( |
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| 05:56.05 | Kivin | better you than me :P |
| 05:56.10 | Kivin | luckily they're all junk for my paladin |
| 05:56.26 | Kivin | at first, i thought i wanted the one that pumps crit rating, but i crit *way* too often for it to be useful |
| 05:56.38 | bigzero | vengance is pretty good for a paly tank |
| 05:56.56 | Kivin | is that the one that reflects holy damage? |
| 05:57.09 | bigzero | no, that's the one that does random damage to attacker |
| 05:57.20 | bigzero | well, that may be what you're talking about |
| 05:57.32 | Kivin | it is the one that reflects holy damage |
| 05:57.41 | Kivin | "You have a 10% chance when hit by an attack or harmful spell to deal 95 to 115 holy damage to your attacker." |
| 05:57.53 | bigzero | yeah, that's not a reflect.. |
| 05:57.56 | Kivin | I wonder if that gets the righteous fury 1.90X modifier to holy threat |
| 05:58.34 | bigzero | idk...but it will be nice for my druid :-) |
| 05:58.45 | bigzero | 45 stam is ftw |
| 05:58.50 | Kivin | yeah |
| 05:58.59 | xyu | my pally has it |
| 05:59.13 | Kivin | any comment on it's relationship with IRF? |
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| 06:00.25 | Kivin | according to wowhead, it does get the IRF bonus. that's pretty darned cool |
| 06:00.47 | Kivin | would average ~22 threat every time a mob hits you |
| 06:10.12 | bigzero | too bad you sold the 7 of furies :-) |
| 06:10.22 | Kivin | :) |
| 06:10.27 | Kivin | no, not too bad |
| 06:10.32 | Kivin | almost done my epic flight fund |
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| 06:27.30 | bigzero | lua> local t = {a = 1}; print t.a |
| 06:27.30 | lua_bot | bigzero: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "local t = {a = 1}; print t.a"]:1: '=' expected near 't' |
| 06:27.52 | bigzero | lua> local t = {["a"] = 1}; print t.a |
| 06:27.53 | lua_bot | bigzero: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "local t = {["a"] = 1}; print t.a"]:1: '=' expected near 't' |
| 06:28.14 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {a = 1}; print(t.a) |
| 06:28.14 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 1 |
| 06:28.18 | bigzero | lua> local t = {a = 1}; print(t.a) |
| 06:28.18 | lua_bot | bigzero: 1 |
| 06:28.29 | bigzero | psh, why can't it guess what i want |
| 06:28.46 | bigzero | wtb smarter computers |
| 06:28.54 | Kivin | wts smarter programmers |
| 06:28.55 | MentalPower | cause then it would not be Lua |
| 06:28.58 | dre^ | the evolution is in teh langauge ;) |
| 06:29.01 | dre^ | try python! |
| 06:29.14 | bigzero | lua> local a = 5; local t = {a = 1}; print(t.a) |
| 06:29.14 | lua_bot | bigzero: 1 |
| 06:29.17 | dre^ | not that it's useful for wow... |
| 06:29.49 | MentalPower | lua> local a = 5; local t = {a = a}; print(t.a) |
| 06:29.49 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 5 |
| 06:30.00 | bigzero | the value of a does not affect the structure of the table in any way, right? |
| 06:30.27 | MentalPower | correct |
| 06:30.30 | bigzero | lua> local a = 5; local t = {a = 1}; print(t[5]) |
| 06:30.30 | lua_bot | bigzero: nil |
| 06:30.32 | bigzero | k |
| 06:31.05 | MentalPower | local t = {a = 1} == local t = {["a"] == 1} |
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| 06:42.36 | bigzero | lua> local a = 5; for i=1,a do a = a - 1; print(i) end |
| 06:42.36 | lua_bot | bigzero: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 06:42.55 | bigzero | do i hae to make the upper bound a function for it to update? |
| 06:43.44 | Arrowmaster | you cant so anything like that afaik |
| 06:44.04 | bigzero | no way to make it update the upper bound? |
| 06:44.08 | bigzero | :-( |
| 06:44.41 | bigzero | hmmm, make my own itterator function and then use for x in itter() do ... |
| 06:44.47 | bigzero | would that work? |
| 06:44.58 | exor674 | local i=1; local a=5; while (i < a) do i=i+1; a=a-1; end ? |
| 06:45.18 | Xinhuan | what bigzero? |
| 06:45.21 | Xinhuan | maybe i can help |
| 06:45.34 | bigzero | of course you can |
| 06:45.46 | bigzero | but i think it's too simple for you...you won't like it |
| 06:45.50 | Xinhuan | state it |
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| 06:46.25 | bigzero | exor674 is probably right. trying to sort a table while doing some other stuff while sorting (so i can't use table.sort). for loops are nicer for bubble sorts |
| 06:46.40 | exor674 | OMG! bubblesort! |
| 06:46.47 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 06:46.52 | bigzero | th extra stuff involves merging two elements into one if they are equivalent, so i need it to update the upper bound |
| 06:46.58 | Xinhuan | can you elaborate on what you're trying to do? |
| 06:47.13 | Xinhuan | there's always a simpler way |
| 06:47.19 | bigzero | perhaps |
| 06:47.31 | bigzero | while is probably it |
| 06:48.26 | Xinhuan | so what are you trying? |
| 06:48.40 | bigzero | umm... idk how to say it any differently |
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| 06:48.54 | Xinhuan | give an example input and your expected output |
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| 06:49.39 | bigzero | i have a list of items, sorting by their value. if it's the same stack of items (same number of items in stack) i want to store it in the same index with 2 differnt locations of the item |
| 06:50.09 | bigzero | so i merge the two, and add location of one to the other's entry |
| 06:50.34 | Kivin | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.45 | Xinhuan | so you have table[item][location] = amount? |
| 06:50.48 | Xinhuan | and what kivin said |
| 06:51.09 | bigzero | Kivin, can't merge two elements into one if i use table.sort |
| 06:51.28 | Xinhuan | so you have table[item][location] = amount? |
| 06:51.44 | bigzero | table[i][location] = { {bag,slot}, {bag,slot}, etc. } |
| 06:52.01 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm not understanding |
| 06:52.09 | bigzero | with other stuff besides location for each item |
| 06:52.13 | Xinhuan | did you mean table[i] = { {bag,slot}, {bag,slot}, etc. } |
| 06:52.42 | bigzero | http://ace.pastey.net/80698 |
| 06:52.46 | bigzero | here, before sorting |
| 06:52.55 | bigzero | now i need to sort it and merge |
| 06:53.56 | Xinhuan | instead of doing a merge |
| 06:54.04 | Xinhuan | you should change that table.insert |
| 06:54.09 | bigzero | i could do table.sort and then simply merge the same items that are next to eachother, but I wanted to do it in one step |
| 06:54.20 | Xinhuan | i.e check to see if the entry already exists |
| 06:54.28 | Xinhuan | if it does, insert into the {locs} table |
| 06:54.39 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't, then generate that huge table and insert it |
| 06:54.44 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 06:54.50 | bigzero | Xinhuan, that = extra itteration through the table though....i guess i could be inserting them in sorted manner though |
| 06:55.05 | Xinhuan | merging the tables later is ALSO extra iteration |
| 06:55.08 | Xinhuan | what's the difference? |
| 06:55.11 | Kivin | can you use some meaningful value as the key instead of an index? |
| 06:55.17 | Kivin | such as the ID |
| 06:55.24 | Xinhuan | the problem here is you're using a numerical index |
| 06:55.28 | bigzero | Kivin, i could, but then table.sort doesn't work |
| 06:55.31 | Kivin | that way you can do a lookup instead of iterating through the entire table |
| 06:55.54 | bigzero | you can't sort a dictionary |
| 06:55.58 | Xinhuan | its better from the getgo to create the table the correct way, than to fix it up with another loop later |
| 06:56.05 | Xinhuan | just do the check |
| 06:56.46 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i think i'll just add it in a sorted manner. that way i can merge it right away and have it sorted |
| 06:57.13 | bigzero | i actually had it the way you are saying first, but i didn't really like it |
| 06:57.20 | Xinhuan | still doesn't make sense why you would even do that when you can create the merged table directly |
| 06:57.26 | bigzero | had "Item namexquantity" in the key |
| 06:57.48 | Xinhuan | "inserting in sorted order" STILL REQUIRES you to iterate through it on every loop to determine where to insert it |
| 06:57.49 | bigzero | Xinhuan, that's what i meant by merging right away. create it directly |
| 06:57.53 | Xinhuan | then iterate thru it again to merge |
| 06:58.04 | dre^ | are there any data structures that let you change which attribute is the index? so you could sort them by whatever attrib you wanted... |
| 06:58.17 | dre^ | <-- doesn't know lua |
| 06:58.22 | Xinhuan | dre^ no heh |
| 06:58.31 | bigzero | dre^, you just pass in the comparison function to table.sort |
| 06:58.41 | bigzero | if i understood your question right |
| 07:01.07 | chiper | what the hell... I just logged in on my mage, and my fubar has vanished. all the buttons are on the minimap |
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| 07:01.49 | chiper | yeah, it's enabled. wtf |
| 07:02.20 | exor674 | errored? |
| 07:02.41 | chiper | nothing from swatter |
| 07:03.11 | exor674 | does /fubar do anything? |
| 07:03.15 | chiper | its not showing up in the settings window either |
| 07:03.31 | chiper | no, but doesnt give the slash error either |
| 07:03.55 | exor674 | done a /swat show? |
| 07:04.09 | chiper | swat? |
| 07:04.11 | exor674 | swatter seems to not pop up for during-logon errors |
| 07:04.12 | exor674 | swatter |
| 07:04.21 | chiper | ah |
| 07:04.53 | chiper | aha, it's freaking out on rock |
| 07:04.59 | chiper | strange, since it works fine on my hunter |
| 07:05.24 | exor674 | is rock enabled? |
| 07:06.05 | exor674 | alternitavely, compare hunter enabled list to mage list |
| 07:06.33 | chiper | wow, there's a ton of errors here I never knew were happening. EOI and Surfaces are freaking out |
| 07:07.26 | Arrowmaster | why are you still using surfaces? |
| 07:07.39 | chiper | has it been depreciated? |
| 07:07.44 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:07.54 | Arrowmaster | and its replacement sorta depreciated too |
| 07:08.02 | chiper | I never got the memo :P |
| 07:08.08 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 07:08.54 | chiper | I've had it in my addons folder for a long time, never saw errors from it so I didnt know it wasnt working |
| 07:09.11 | Arrowmaster | well its probably still working |
| 07:10.41 | chiper | looks like stubby's bitching about something too, guess I'll have to see if there's a new version |
| 07:11.39 | Kivin | god damnit... 12 minute queue on the 2v2 and my arena partner goes afk and doesn't come back for the queue pop |
| 07:17.13 | xyu | is there any command to get your ping? |
| 07:17.17 | xyu | if you dont have it shown on a UI |
| 07:17.21 | Kivin | there's an api |
| 07:17.26 | Kivin | not sure what it is |
| 07:18.50 | chiper | ok, fixed fubar. not sure what it was, but redownloading it seemed to fix it |
| 07:19.33 | CIA-4 | 03swearl * r58514 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (4 files): |
| 07:19.33 | CIA-4 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 07:19.33 | CIA-4 | - Quest database update to version 1.9.20 |
| 07:19.59 | xyu | I tried that Latency fix slash tweak for TCPack omg it works so great. 200ms -> 55ms |
| 07:20.25 | Arrowmaster | what tweak? |
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| 07:20.56 | Xinhuan | link tweak? |
| 07:20.59 | Arrowmaster | and bliz added a latency fix in 2.3.2 |
| 07:21.00 | xyu | the one you edit your registry, TcpAckFrequency and TCPNoDelay |
| 07:21.05 | xyu | yes |
| 07:21.06 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 07:21.07 | xyu | but even after |
| 07:21.09 | xyu | this works |
| 07:21.15 | Arrowmaster | those very very bad tweaks |
| 07:21.22 | Xinhuan | blizz's added latency fix doesn't work Arrowmaster :D |
| 07:21.35 | Twist- | now if they'd just fix that high CPU utilization problem.. |
| 07:21.46 | Xinhuan | i still get better pings on my SSH connection - 230 ms instead of the 450ms i get with or without blizzard's 2.3.2 patch |
| 07:21.48 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck did they messup setting TCPNODELAY |
| 07:21.49 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: those work due to the way the WoW comms work |
| 07:21.49 | xyu | They may be bad tweaks but 55ms is 55 ms ^^ |
| 07:21.50 | Xinhuan | clearly they didn't test it |
| 07:22.13 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: Write-Read-Read |
| 07:22.17 | Arrowmaster | MentalPower: i know they work, just saying that theyre still bad |
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| 07:22.52 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: I agree, ideally they should be set per-application, but thats a bit hard to do in windows |
| 07:22.58 | xyu | i'll just have to remember to change them back to default when other things start messing up |
| 07:23.05 | Dezzimal | xyu: how do you do that latency fix? |
| 07:23.25 | xyu | it's up on mmo-champion.com |
| 07:23.28 | Arrowmaster | i suggest making a .reg file then to set them back to defaults and keep that around, will help you remember |
| 07:23.30 | Xinhuan | i just want to say again, patch 2.3.2 doesn't work :D |
| 07:23.30 | xyu | front page, scroll down a bit. |
| 07:23.52 | xyu | Arrowmaster: good idea |
| 07:23.56 | xyu | i'm not sure how to do it though hehe |
| 07:23.58 | Arrowmaster | what is it with java programs and sucking |
| 07:24.15 | MentalPower | the person that wrote it :P |
| 07:24.19 | MentalPower | anyways, gnight |
| 07:24.41 | Arrowmaster | like every damn java program ive used that didnt use the eclipse sdk like azureus has had a laggy ass interface that sucks |
| 07:24.59 | NightHawkTheSane | I think I might buy a trackball... |
| 07:25.09 | Arrowmaster | the program im using right now takes up like 50% cpu usage just from being the ontop program |
| 07:25.16 | Twist- | NightHawk: YOu'll have to change your nick. |
| 07:25.17 | xyu | NightHawkTheSane: nooo |
| 07:25.22 | Bibi | it takes a lot of resources to be on top. |
| 07:25.45 | xyu | my gf says the same thing >< |
| 07:25.52 | NightHawkTheSane | .... whats wrong with trackballs? |
| 07:25.56 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 07:26.01 | Arrowmaster | 100% cpu usage currently with it ontop, less than 50% when interface isnt shown |
| 07:26.19 | Arrowmaster | and the program is currently doing hashes of a bunch of media files |
| 07:26.24 | Arrowmaster | how does that make any sense |
| 07:26.40 | Kivin | no throttling |
| 07:26.50 | Arrowmaster | shitty interface |
| 07:27.07 | Xinhuan | afk |
| 07:27.39 | xyu | i dont like azureus anymore, it seems like they're adding so much crap to it that i dont want. |
| 07:27.39 | xyu | i need an azureus lite |
| 07:27.39 | Arrowmaster | sorta agree |
| 07:27.39 | Arrowmaster | dont like there vuse crap |
| 07:27.40 | MentalPower|ZzZz | build it yerself :P |
| 07:27.40 | Bibi | uTorrent > Azureus anyway |
| 07:27.57 | Arrowmaster | sorry im never going to run uTorrent |
| 07:28.10 | Bibi | :( |
| 07:28.14 | chiper | what's the proper way to check if an argument isnt nil? |
| 07:28.22 | Kivin | if arg then |
| 07:28.29 | Kivin | or if arg ~= nil then |
| 07:28.33 | Arrowmaster | a closed source torrent program currently owned by a company in the MPAA/RIAA's back pocket |
| 07:28.40 | chiper | ah, ok, thanks |
| 07:28.40 | Arrowmaster | fat chance of me touching that |
| 07:28.59 | Bibi | I don't use Bittorent to download illegal things actually :p |
| 07:29.36 | xyu | (he uses newsgroup duh) |
| 07:29.38 | chiper | cool, fixed Enhanced Online Indicator |
| 07:29.41 | Arrowmaster | neither do i (usually) |
| 07:29.50 | exor|zzz | why is nil true? |
| 07:30.00 | Arrowmaster | nil isnt true |
| 07:30.06 | exor|zzz | lua> if nil then print("OMG! Nil is true!") end |
| 07:30.06 | lua_bot | exor|zzz: |
| 07:30.09 | exor|zzz | o.O okay |
| 07:30.09 | Kivin | lua > if nil then print(true) else print(false) end |
| 07:30.14 | Kivin | lua> if nil then print(true) else print(false) end |
| 07:30.15 | lua_bot | Kivin: false |
| 07:30.18 | exor|zzz | my ingame tests proved otherwise haha -- musta had something else |
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| 07:30.28 | chiper | thinking I should spruce it up and release it, original author seems to have abandoned it |
| 07:30.40 | Kivin | nil and false are always false, anything else will turn up true |
| 07:30.48 | chiper | hasnt been updated in 348 days. I think that qualifies as an abandoned mod |
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| 07:31.07 | Arrowmaster | lua4 didnt have true/false, it used 1/nil (wow originally used lua4 before release and a lot of the api funcs return 1/nil) |
| 07:31.29 | Kivin | I still pass 1s into some API functions |
| 07:31.38 | Kivin | :SetMovable(1), :EnableMouse(1) |
| 07:32.02 | Arrowmaster | its valid |
| 07:32.31 | Arrowmaster | as long as the func isnt checking arg == true |
| 07:32.46 | Dezzimal | eh aparently this lag fix isn't available for vista :/ |
| 07:33.06 | Arrowmaster | Dezzimal: the posts say exactly how to get it to work on vista |
| 07:33.07 | Orionshock | Dezzimal: ... don't need it any more, they put it into the last patch |
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| 07:33.54 | Dezzimal | yeah I put in the hotfix |
| 07:34.01 | Dezzimal | but I would have rather just tweaked my registry |
| 07:34.09 | Dezzimal | since one is a bit easier to reverse than the other |
| 07:34.19 | xyu | Orionshock: yes but it didn't work |
| 07:34.31 | xyu | these temporary fixes still work |
| 07:34.39 | xyu | i just did it, brought me from 200ms to 55ms |
| 07:34.46 | Dezzimal | brb rebooting |
| 07:34.53 | Dezzimal | aparently 10 years of windows |
| 07:35.01 | Dezzimal | and I still have to reboot every patch |
| 07:35.19 | Kivin | "Your mouse has moved" |
| 07:35.31 | Kivin | "Windows must restart for this change to take effect" |
| 07:35.57 | xyu | but i can change my resolution, ha ha! |
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| 07:42.08 | Orionshock | anyone here use any of the ace' hosted DKP addons? |
| 07:43.18 | silentium | http://ace.pastey.net/80699 <- .reg files for enabling and disabling the nagle algorithm |
| 07:43.30 | vithos | .ap 1649 |
| 07:43.45 | vithos | !ap 1649 |
| 07:43.46 | ThraeBot | vithos: Arena points from a rating of 1649 is, 2v2: 404, 3v3: 468, 5v5: 532 |
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| 07:45.47 | exor|zzz | I thought they disabled nagle in 2.3.2 anyway |
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| 07:47.04 | silentium | that's what they said in the patch notes, but they somehow failed |
| 07:48.10 | Kivin | My arena partner is asking if he needs to be in >=10 games, or 80% to get points |
| 07:48.17 | Kivin | <- knows nothing about arena |
| 07:48.28 | Arrowmaster | >=70% |
| 07:48.37 | Arrowmaster | team needs >=10 |
| 07:48.59 | Arrowmaster | if team only does 10 games and a team member only does 3 games they should get points |
| 07:49.17 | Kivin | i did 10 rounds with someone else on my main, and i've done 8 with him on my alt |
| 07:49.23 | Kivin | that's 18 rounds |
| 07:49.46 | Kivin | so what, does he need 12 rounds? |
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| 07:49.57 | Arrowmaster | and by >=70% i ment >=30% |
| 07:50.04 | Kivin | ... |
| 07:50.24 | Arrowmaster | 3/10 gets you points |
| 07:50.26 | dre^ | the team needs at least 10, a player needs at least 3 |
| 07:50.31 | dre^ | that's it |
| 07:50.41 | Arrowmaster | its not a %? |
| 07:50.41 | Kivin | okay |
| 07:50.44 | Arrowmaster | just 3? |
| 07:51.04 | dre^ | well if you're going for minimum, those values are correct... but yeah, it's a % |
| 07:51.16 | dre^ | and it's 30% I believe |
| 07:51.24 | Kivin | I've done 10 on my main and 8 on my alt, 18 rounds this week |
| 07:51.38 | Kivin | so he'd need 5.4 (assume 6?) rounds to get his share of points, yes? |
| 07:52.19 | Arrowmaster | i guess |
| 07:53.22 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r58515 10Talented/ (Talented.toc tips.lua): Talented: register Talented_Loader as a load manager |
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| 07:58.41 | cladhaire | Kivin: yes, but you'll up the total num of games played |
| 07:58.48 | cladhaire | oh, nevermind :P |
| 07:58.51 | Kivin | :) |
| 07:58.51 | cladhaire | you're right |
| 07:59.15 | cladhaire | I had to make a calculator in-game that told me how many games I needed to play to make 30%, based on how many I'd already played and how many the team played total |
| 07:59.29 | cladhaire | :P |
| 07:59.31 | Kivin | lol |
| 07:59.57 | Kivin | by the time we finish our 10 matches, that'll be 20 team played, so six matches per char |
| 08:00.30 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r58516 10Talented_Loader/: Talented_Loader: create folder |
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| 08:02.53 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r58517 10Talented_Loader/ (Talented_Loader.toc core.lua): Talented_Loader: initial import. A minimalistic loader for Talented |
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| 08:07.06 | Kivin | yay 1381 arena rating -.- |
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| 08:09.07 | Neebler | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/71965/ |
| 08:09.26 | Neebler | I plan on getting my 5v5 and 3v3 to 2200+ and my 2v2 to around 1200 |
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| 08:09.50 | Neebler | so when people look at my pvp tab, they'll be puzzled |
| 08:10.16 | Kivin | lol |
| 08:10.43 | Kivin | i'm using the same arena team for a gag duo and a serious duo, for some reason... so it goes up to 1500, then down to 1300, up down up down |
| 08:11.01 | Zhinjio | What is the warrior ability that makes them immune to fear? Some sort of stance thing, no? |
| 08:11.06 | Zhinjio | like for nightbane, eg |
| 08:11.12 | Kivin | zerker rage + bloodrage or something |
| 08:11.27 | Kivin | zerker stance + zerker rage? i dunno |
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| 08:12.30 | Zhinjio | ah yes, Berserker Rage |
| 08:13.25 | Kivin | holy crap, remind me never to /uireload with autorun on |
| 08:13.35 | cladhaire | lol |
| 08:13.42 | Kivin | just spent like 3 minutes in reloading |
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| 08:16.57 | HIghoS | Zhinjio, Yeah, berseker rage in berseker stance. 30 second cooldown, 8s break + immune. (there's also other abiltiies like deathwish and recklessness but a tank isn't going to have those :D) |
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| 08:21.17 | Fin | depends on the tank :P I think Kalroth might have it, and he was tanking for me recently :P |
| 08:21.29 | Kalroth | hay baby! |
| 08:21.35 | Fin | Kalrock! |
| 08:21.48 | Zhinjio | HIghoS: so the immunity lasts 8 seconds? |
| 08:21.49 | Kalroth | I might have what? if it's an STD then I might |
| 08:21.54 | Fin | HIghoS was just saying that tanks aren't going to have Deathwish :) |
| 08:22.24 | Kalroth | Normally they don't, nope. But you can tank just fine with something like 41/5/15. |
| 08:22.48 | Kalroth | But much hate at Blizzard for moving it to Arms tree |
| 08:22.52 | Fin | so how comes you were so bad? |
| 08:22.55 | Fin | ahah |
| 08:22.58 | Kalroth | And I didn't have Deathwish! |
| 08:23.05 | Kalroth | I'm 3/43/15 :) |
| 08:24.13 | Fin | you just have a death wish |
| 08:26.44 | Neebler | !ap 1987 |
| 08:26.44 | ThraeBot | Neebler: Arena points from a rating of 1987 is, 2v2: 788, 3v3: 913, 5v5: 1037 |
| 08:27.20 | Neebler | !ar 986 |
| 08:27.21 | ThraeBot | Neebler: Arena rating from 986 points is, 2v2: 2235, 3v3: 2053, 5v5: 1950 |
| 08:29.39 | ramoz | jesus if you have a 1950 5v5 team you get 986 points each week? |
| 08:30.56 | Kivin | o.o |
| 08:31.01 | Neebler | yea. and it's quite easy to achieve |
| 08:31.05 | Neebler | if you're not a total failure |
| 08:31.10 | Kivin | my god... and i'm getting 245 pts in the morning |
| 08:31.10 | Kalroth | I am! |
| 08:31.39 | Neebler | make your own 3v3 or 5v5. I did, and found good players. then lead to victory! |
| 08:31.47 | Neebler | well since I'm a rogue, I pretty much had to |
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| 08:32.08 | Kivin | my hunter, who is Lv 69.5 atm, will be my first serious pvp char |
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| 08:33.00 | Kivin | !ap 1850 |
| 08:33.00 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Arena points from a rating of 1850 is, 2v2: 637, 3v3: 737, 5v5: 838 |
| 08:35.02 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r58518 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data_zhCN.lua Talented_Data_zhTW.lua): Talented_Data: updates to zhTW and zhCN |
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| 08:44.48 | HIghoS | Zhinjio, Yeah it breaks fears and gives you 8 seconds of immunity. |
| 08:45.03 | HIghoS | And yeah, I was speaking more of a prot-specced warrior when i said 'tank'. |
| 08:45.24 | HIghoS | Given, even having defiance you can do "ok" but any geared dps will be able to pull off you ;p |
| 08:45.37 | HIghoS | I just suck it up and respec constantly, lol >.> |
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| 08:47.54 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r58519 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:47.54 | CIA-4 | Ace3 - AceGUI: |
| 08:47.55 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.55 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.55 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.28 | Kivin | lua> print(type(asdf)) |
| 08:58.29 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil |
| 08:58.36 | Kivin | lua> print(type(asdf) == "nil") |
| 08:58.37 | lua_bot | Kivin: true |
| 09:01.18 | Kivin | print(string.lower(asdf)) |
| 09:01.23 | Kivin | lua> print(string.lower(asdf)) |
| 09:01.23 | lua_bot | Kivin: [string "print(string.lower(asdf))"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'lower' (string expected, got nil) |
| 09:03.49 | Fin | why aren't you quoting asdf? |
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| 09:05.21 | Kivin | Fin: wanted to see how it reacts to a nil variable |
| 09:05.23 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r58520 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 09:05.23 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 09:05.23 | CIA-4 | - New ZA item |
| 09:10.18 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r58521 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix IGNOREARMOR in frFR |
| 09:10.27 | Kivin | lua> = table.concat({"Asdf", "ghsdl"}) |
| 09:10.27 | lua_bot | Kivin: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: table.concat({"Asdf", "ghsdl"}):1: unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 09:10.45 | Kivin | lua> print(table.concat({"Asdf", "ghsdl"})) |
| 09:10.46 | lua_bot | Kivin: Asdfghsdl |
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| 09:21.14 | dre^ | stumpfactor106 |
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| 09:21.21 | dre^ | lol! |
| 09:21.41 | Kivin | hmm? |
| 09:22.09 | dre^ | misfire, was practicing iterative loops... |
| 09:22.18 | dre^ | but this isn't my vi editor |
| 09:24.18 | Kivin | print({} == "x") |
| 09:24.22 | Kivin | lua> print({} == "x") |
| 09:24.23 | lua_bot | Kivin: false |
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| 09:28.17 | ramoz | how do you spell the first name in RoS? |
| 09:28.22 | ramoz | Reliquary? :O |
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| 09:30.08 | vithos | yes, Reliquary of Souls |
| 09:30.23 | ramoz | thanks |
| 09:38.14 | Kivin | lua> string.find("wow-toolbox.com", "wow-toolbox%.com") |
| 09:38.14 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
| 09:38.16 | NightHawkTheSane | they have these things now.. dictionaries.. |
| 09:38.19 | Kivin | lua> string.find("wow-toolbox.com", "wow%-toolbox%.com") |
| 09:38.19 | lua_bot | Kivin: 1, 15, |
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| 09:43.01 | vithos | cpu profilng made my load time so long it just disconnected me. |
| 09:43.09 | Kivin | o.o |
| 09:43.42 | vithos | but i must figure out what's doing the framerate spikes again every few seconds |
| 09:45.08 | Kivin | lua> string.find("$99.99", "$%d+(%.%d+)") |
| 09:45.08 | lua_bot | Kivin: 1, 6, .99, |
| 09:45.12 | Kivin | lua> string.find("$99.99", "$%d+(%.%d+)?") |
| 09:45.12 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
| 09:45.14 | Kivin | ... |
| 09:45.29 | Kivin | Can I not use control characters on a bracketed section of my pattern |
| 09:45.32 | potemkin | is there a way to change the orientation of a texture |
| 09:45.40 | potemkin | so i can spin it |
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| 09:47.32 | ckknight | Kivin: %$ |
| 09:47.42 | ckknight | potemkin: :SetTexCoord |
| 09:47.47 | ckknight | but there's a possibility of bleeding |
| 09:47.57 | ckknight | which has thus far been refused to be addressed |
| 09:48.13 | Kivin | lua> string.find("$99.99", "%$%d+(%.%d+)?") |
| 09:48.13 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
| 09:48.45 | Kivin | hmmm... ck? |
| 09:48.51 | ckknight | oh, you can't use ? on groups |
| 09:48.54 | ckknight | not in lua |
| 09:48.59 | Kivin | gah... that's terrible |
| 09:49.01 | ckknight | because lua has to suck it up |
| 09:49.10 | ckknight | lua patterns infuriate me at times |
| 09:49.15 | Kivin | they just did |
| 09:49.20 | ckknight | compared to a proper regex implementation |
| 09:49.28 | ckknight | okay, here's what you do |
| 09:49.35 | Kivin | I have to use three different patterns to test $99.99, $99, and 99$, apparently... |
| 09:49.55 | ckknight | lua> ("$99.99"):find("%$%d+%.?%d*") |
| 09:49.55 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1, 6, |
| 09:50.05 | sb | ckknight: when are you going to be back at coding? :p wtb moer ckk addons :o |
| 09:50.06 | ckknight | 99$ isn't real. |
| 09:50.10 | Grum | strip off '$', split on '.' ..! |
| 09:50.12 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r58522 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Throttle ConfigTableChange Events |
| 09:50.22 | ckknight | sb: I've been working on another project |
| 09:50.23 | Kivin | ckknight: It's for trapping gold spam, and 99$ is quite often used |
| 09:50.28 | ckknight | Kivin: ah. |
| 09:50.33 | sb | ckknight: mh - non-wow? |
| 09:50.57 | ckknight | sb: currently, yes, it's a microbiological simulation program |
| 09:51.15 | ckknight | controllable and evolving |
| 09:51.20 | ckknight | an intellectual exercise |
| 09:51.27 | sb | oh :o |
| 09:51.42 | ckknight | also, I'm moving soon |
| 09:52.17 | Kivin | lua> string.find("abc123", "(%s+)") |
| 09:52.17 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
| 09:52.31 | Kivin | lua> string.find("abc123", "(%d+)") |
| 09:52.31 | lua_bot | Kivin: 4, 6, 123, |
| 09:52.40 | Kivin | patterns puzzle me in lua |
| 09:52.46 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 09:52.55 | Kivin | because i want them to be regexes, but they aren't |
| 09:53.24 | nevcairiel | a full regex implementation would probably be bigger then the full lua source |
| 09:53.28 | Kivin | is there a wildcard that matches alpha-numeric characters but nothing else? |
| 09:53.37 | nevcairiel | %w |
| 09:53.40 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 09:53.51 | Kivin | correct, thanks |
| 09:54.06 | ckknight | nevcairiel: actually no, not quite, but pcre compliance is about 4000 lines, compared to 500 for patterns |
| 09:54.15 | ckknight | and slower |
| 09:54.23 | ckknight | lua patterns are very fast |
| 09:55.01 | Arrowmaster | they still suck though |
| 09:55.15 | nevcairiel | and lua is supposed to be lightweight, you have to remember lua was designed to run on embeded devices too |
| 09:55.38 | Kivin | still sucks, though |
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| 09:55.47 | nevcairiel | l2adapt |
| 09:55.50 | Arrowmaster | wtb official regex lib then |
| 09:55.59 | Arrowmaster | optional but existant |
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| 09:56.11 | Ellipsis | implementing that in lua would be even messier |
| 09:56.25 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I agree |
| 09:56.30 | exor|zzz | I'd hate to see a Lua regex lib implemented in Lua |
| 09:56.41 | Arrowmaster | libs are writen in C not Lua |
| 09:57.35 | Kivin | do i need to escape forward slashes |
| 09:57.41 | Kivin | in patterns |
| 09:57.49 | exor|zzz | and how would we get that lib into WoW, Arrowmaster? |
| 09:58.05 | Arrowmaster | by getting blizzard to include it |
| 09:58.13 | Arrowmaster | they included bitlib a long time ago |
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| 09:58.57 | exor|zzz | probably because *they* needed it :P |
| 09:59.02 | Arrowmaster | no they didnt |
| 09:59.06 | Arrowmaster | not at the time |
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| 10:22.12 | CIA-4 | 03kivin * r58523 10KivinSpamGuard/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:22.12 | CIA-4 | KivinSpamGuard: |
| 10:22.12 | CIA-4 | - Implemented localized spam filters and a simple API for adding additional filters. |
| 10:22.12 | CIA-4 | - Removed invalid/redundant filter patterns. |
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| 10:42.00 | CIA-4 | 03pernicius 07pernicius * r58526 10AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth_WorldMap/modMap.lua: |
| 10:42.00 | CIA-4 | AtlasOfAzeroth_WorldMap: |
| 10:42.00 | CIA-4 | - fixed PlayerPos label |
| 10:49.52 | capullo | wowwebstats is always so f.... slow :( |
| 10:50.37 | capullo | is there an alternative for wws? |
| 10:50.45 | Lukian | make your own |
| 10:51.32 | Twist- | you can host the files yourself |
| 10:51.34 | Codayus | Nothign comes close, although it depends what you want. You can host a limited version of the report on your own server, if you like. Fast but...limited. |
| 10:51.58 | Codayus | If you give them money, you can get priority loading, which makes it a lot faster, in my experience. |
| 10:52.02 | Twist- | really. what does hosting on their server net you beyond comparisons with other guilds? |
| 10:52.04 | capullo | maybe i add a export-function to recount |
| 10:52.17 | capullo | to wtf or chatlog |
| 10:52.21 | Codayus | Twist-: The interface is a lot different, and there's a lot more analysis. |
| 10:52.54 | Codayus | Can filter the log, search for typed of events, look at each attempt individually, look at each person indivudally... |
| 10:53.14 | capullo | recount has more informationsn, or? |
| 10:54.07 | Codayus | "Look, tank 2 took too many crushing blows on try 3...what's up with that? Wow, lock 2 had horrible dot uptime on the boss on try 1..." |
| 10:55.23 | Ellipsis | I would feel violated if someone analyzed my dot uptime from a WWS report |
| 10:55.45 | capullo | dps is all :P |
| 10:55.47 | Codayus | Good for looking at hit rate, skill usage, miss rate, dot uptime, who healed whom, who was healed by whom, average hits, consumable usage, and more, all broken down by person, by attempt, or both. |
| 10:56.01 | Twist- | all that is in the basic reports though |
| 10:56.19 | Twist- | assuming your'e just talking about presence as a measure of dot uptime |
| 10:56.19 | Ellipsis | if I'm doing the damage, it's none of your damn business how I go about it (exceptions, of course, being other locks who want to learn how I'm so awesome...as long as they're nice about it) |
| 10:56.26 | Codayus | Twist-: I'm not. |
| 10:56.50 | capullo | but at some bosses you need more logfiles |
| 10:57.02 | capullo | for example this one: http://wowwebstats.com/bes2kxxqims2m |
| 10:57.02 | Codayus | Ellipsis: The way my guild does it is, we post WWS, and encourage people to review and ask for help if they think they need it. We don't call people out if they're doing poorly. |
| 10:57.08 | capullo | only 18 player |
| 10:57.31 | Twist- | yeah, we threw WWS up and just posted some links to guilds that were doing better |
| 10:57.41 | capullo | dont know if me made this boss realy only with 18 player :P |
| 10:57.57 | Twist- | people sort of analyzed on their own without prodding |
| 10:58.00 | Codayus | capullo: Incorrect. Someone misparsed it, and told WWS some players were pets or mobs, it looks like. |
| 10:58.19 | Twist- | "holy crap.. mage X from guild Y is doing half again my damage with equivalent gear.." etc |
| 10:58.32 | Codayus | Unless Natureone, with a diacritical I won't bother to try and reproduce, is actually a mob... |
| 10:58.43 | capullo | k, i try to upload it again |
| 10:59.30 | Codayus | Twist-: *nod* We...kinda do that. A lot of our players are in unofficial competitions with each other. "Hey, you got 200 more DPS than me this week? I pwned you on that fight last week, what gives?" "Oh, trying a new rotation/build/added more crit/whatever". |
| 10:59.45 | Codayus | Helps spread good practices a lot. :-) |
| 10:59.49 | CIA-4 | 03kunda * r58527 10AuctionProfit/AuctionProfit.lua: |
| 10:59.49 | CIA-4 | AuctionProfit: |
| 10:59.49 | CIA-4 | - added check to prevent possible multi data save |
| 10:59.49 | CIA-4 | - added data check before save |
| 10:59.49 | CIA-4 | - added hook check in AH tooltip function |
| 11:00.03 | Codayus | (We're a very very casual guild though. So...yeah.) |
| 11:00.10 | Ellipsis | personally I totally have an epeen-off with a hardcore mage in my guild |
| 11:00.26 | Codayus | Always good. |
| 11:00.30 | Twist- | Yeah, I'd say the same.. we're only up to archimonde/gurtog |
| 11:00.37 | Codayus | Heh |
| 11:00.40 | Ellipsis | it frustrates him that I'm only half-kara geared and he's in SSC/TK epix, but I can still out-dps via OP warlock hax |
| 11:00.47 | Codayus | We spent the night learning Karathress. |
| 11:00.48 | Codayus | We win. |
| 11:00.51 | Twist- | heh.. don't get me started on warlocks |
| 11:01.01 | Ellipsis | it's fun |
| 11:01.28 | Codayus | Ah, twisted anti-competitiveness at its best: My casual guild is more casual than yours! |
| 11:01.36 | Ellipsis | when we do heroics we basically melt faces and the tank spams taunt on as many things as he can trying desperately not to let our squishy butts die |
| 11:01.47 | Twist- | Our top-damage player is a warlock.. he's also the officer that was beating the "do moar damage, noobs" drum incessantly for months |
| 11:02.05 | Twist- | so.. he was right, but it's infuriating hearing it from the free-pass damage class. |
| 11:02.22 | Ellipsis | it's really rough to evaluate dps as a warlock |
| 11:02.25 | Codayus | "Alright, AoE incoming, let the TANKS GRAB IT, do NOT DPS or you'll... ....grab aggro like Lock 1 just did." "Hey, I soulshattered..." "Yeah..." |
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| 11:02.50 | Ellipsis | personally I know I'm definitely not doing my maximum damage output, but I can't really get a sense of how I'm lacking when I'm so high on the meters :/ |
| 11:03.06 | Twist- | our big problems on fathom lord were healers not holding off during the murg rush |
| 11:03.17 | Codayus | Twist-: I think you mean Morogrim? |
| 11:03.27 | Codayus | Murg rush = murlocks? |
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| 11:03.42 | Twist- | er, yes.. crossed a conversation thread there. twice. |
| 11:03.46 | Codayus | :-) |
| 11:04.23 | SunTsu | I recently got a whisper from a lock now doing his first tanking with his druid alt. "OK, now I know how it is when somebody draws aggro, I am out of rage and taunt is on cool down. Count on me behaving better next time" |
| 11:04.24 | Codayus | We actually one shotted Morogrim on our first attempt ever on Fri. Was...unexpected. Then we spend all of tonight chain wiping to FLK... |
| 11:04.45 | Codayus | Heh, nothing teaches people to respect tanks like trying to do it. |
| 11:05.03 | Twist- | it's all your fault for mentioning karathress and aoe back to back, you realize. |
| 11:05.08 | Codayus | Coversely, the absolute WORST DPSers I've ever met were all the alts oftanks, taking the opportuntiyt to GET EVEN ON EVERYONE. |
| 11:05.15 | Codayus | Twist-: Yeah. :-) |
| 11:05.33 | Codayus | The AoE example actually came from tonight on a giant in FLKs room...so...made sense to me. |
| 11:05.58 | Codayus | Damn warlocks think the adds spawning = SEED NOW NOW GO GO... |
| 11:06.12 | Codayus | *cough* |
| 11:06.15 | Ellipsis | well if we don't get seeds up fast some mage will steal our thunder! |
| 11:06.24 | Ellipsis | and we CANNOT HAVE OUR THUNDER STOLEN |
| 11:06.29 | Ellipsis | especially not by an inferior class :P |
| 11:06.33 | Codayus | Yes, that does appear to be the "thought" process. :-) |
| 11:06.44 | Codayus | I'd point out that in our raid, however, a hunter always tops the meters. |
| 11:06.49 | Codayus | :-/ |
| 11:06.53 | capullo | http://wowwebstats.com/iqktd4rmnoorw?s=1150-1323 < now it looks better, but iam not #1 anymore :) thanks Codayus for the hint |
| 11:06.54 | SunTsu | Codayus: Worst DPS as in actually doing bad dps or as in drawing aggro while trying to beat everybody? |
| 11:06.55 | Twist- | they nerfed TLC.. can't you just be smugly and silently superior for a while? |
| 11:06.56 | Vulcanus | Ellipsis, fuck you :( Mage > * |
| 11:06.57 | Arrowmaster | i seed everything asap so that when the mages start aoeing the seeds all go off at once |
| 11:07.01 | vithos | that's because hunters are awesome. |
| 11:07.17 | Ellipsis | Vulcanus: no thanks, I had sex with a mage once and it was really intense but over way too fast imo |
| 11:07.25 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 11:07.34 | Twist- | You should try again.. we have longer uptime since 2.4 hit. |
| 11:07.39 | Codayus | SunTsu: Drawing aggro. One mage alt of an old MT of ours went fire and stacked crit...his goal every pull was to pull aggro. Nothing more. |
| 11:07.47 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Must have been a fire mage, they tend not to last long ;) |
| 11:07.53 | Ellipsis | SunTsu: indeed it was |
| 11:07.54 | Vulcanus | I don't have a lot of stamina, but my Intellect is unrivalled, baby ;) |
| 11:07.59 | Ellipsis | and Twist-: I'd love to, but he rerolled :P |
| 11:08.33 | Codayus | It was funny at first... |
| 11:08.39 | Twist- | so my main's been a mage since release.. I rolled a priest on a lark one day. |
| 11:08.46 | Codayus | Priest > * |
| 11:09.00 | Twist- | god. I had *no idea* how much of a pain in the ass keeping me alive was. |
| 11:09.14 | SunTsu | Codayus: OK, I try to skill my chars that they draw as little aggro as I can. I know how I hate it when somebody else draws aggro, so I avoid it |
| 11:09.17 | Codayus | Spec shadow. All the cool kids do. |
| 11:09.20 | capullo | yes priest is great, i love VT :P |
| 11:09.30 | Twist- | This was pre TBC.. my priest is still 61 |
| 11:09.34 | Codayus | Ah, yes. |
| 11:09.45 | Codayus | We to a shadow priest to BWL once pre TBC. |
| 11:09.55 | Codayus | He pulled aggro on Ebonroc... |
| 11:10.14 | Twist- | but it gave me a new respect for the healers that don't just conserve mana by ressing the kamikaze gnome mage after each pull. |
| 11:10.16 | Codayus | That was not a happy fun time. :-( |
| 11:10.18 | Arrowmaster | i had to go stand with the rogues on ebonroc =( |
| 11:10.45 | Twist- | my new toy alt is a pally tank |
| 11:11.27 | Arrowmaster | the drakes as a warlock with no threat reduction sucked |
| 11:11.32 | Codayus | Big giant dragon turns. Big giant dragon breathes on the raid. Raid curses the shadow priest standing in the middle of the squishy casters. |
| 11:11.42 | Codayus | Ha. |
| 11:11.49 | Twist- | How the hell did we ever manage without Omen? |
| 11:11.50 | CIA-4 | 03elkano * r58528 10ElkBuffBars/EBB_Bar.lua: |
| 11:11.50 | CIA-4 | ElkBuffBars |
| 11:11.50 | CIA-4 | - fixed barwidth if no icon is shown |
| 11:12.01 | Codayus | I dunno... |
| 11:12.07 | Arrowmaster | even with ktm back then i had to stand with the rogues |
| 11:12.29 | Arrowmaster | my threat would get so high even if i stoped i risked pulling aggro |
| 11:12.52 | Twist- | well, we had real invulnerabilty potions.. that helped a bit |
| 11:12.58 | Codayus | Some people used ktm for vael, but we never did. *shrug* |
| 11:13.07 | Codayus | And we never even saw much use for it post vael. |
| 11:13.18 | Twist- | we had huge threat problems on the drakes |
| 11:13.21 | Codayus | Of course, our DPS was um...not to hot. |
| 11:13.36 | Twist- | I had to downrank to rank 5 frostbolt |
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| 11:14.23 | Arrowmaster | screw downranking, i just ate wingbuffets |
| 11:14.27 | SunTsu | Well, how many bosses werer there before BC that had a time limit? ;) |
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| 11:14.36 | Twist- | then the guild collapsed, and I landed in one with better tanks.. that was a revelation |
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| 11:14.46 | Twist- | "go all out? really?" |
| 11:14.52 | Convalescent | hi, I'm new to ace2 - is there a http access library that I can use to get data from a webpage ingame and display it? |
| 11:15.11 | Arrowmaster | Convalescent: not possible under any circumstances |
| 11:15.24 | Twist- | addons can't access external data while the game is running at all |
| 11:15.31 | Convalescent | ah, bugger. |
| 11:15.45 | Twist- | even your savedvariable files are only loaded/saved at reload time |
| 11:15.48 | Convalescent | I was hoping to script a guild motd mod that reads from a website |
| 11:16.11 | Twist- | you'd need an external app that updated a .lua file before you launced wow |
| 11:16.15 | Convalescent | so, there's no way at all of collecting it during load time then displaying it? |
| 11:16.42 | Twist- | you can update a .lua file with an external app and then /console reloadui |
| 11:16.50 | Twist- | but that's as smooth as it gets |
| 11:16.56 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r58529 10Talented_Loader/Talented_Loader.toc: Talented_Loader: add a few missing TOC entries |
| 11:17.02 | Convalescent | ah, I see |
| 11:18.07 | Twist- | I have a DKP addon that functions in this way |
| 11:18.31 | Twist- | I have an excel sheet that dumps our point list in .lua format, and wrote a little addon to read it |
| 11:19.13 | Twist- | it's just a separate include file with a bigass table |
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| 11:56.39 | Twist- | er.. nice. the TBC installer hit some error and just failed, forcing a restart from disk 1 |
| 11:57.29 | Twist- | wasn't there a downloadable installer available somwhere? |
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| 11:59.05 | [SW]Dodge | if u are on EU you can download in the account management area |
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| 12:01.16 | Twist- | You're saying that doesn't work for the US, or that you just don't know about that one? |
| 12:01.19 | Twist- | *checks* |
| 12:01.33 | SunTsu | Twist-: Use iso images |
| 12:01.51 | SunTsu | Twist-: Or copy everything into one directopry and install from there |
| 12:02.03 | Twist- | well, if the operating theory is that my disk is damaged somehow |
| 12:02.21 | SunTsu | Twist-: No, the fact is that there is an error in the installer |
| 12:04.18 | Twist- | it was a read error on a particular file |
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| 12:05.05 | Twist- | I'm whipping up a single install disk and trying to reinstall at the same time.. hopefully one approach will work. |
| 12:06.26 | vithos | i just use the blizzard torrents for the installers |
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| 12:07.48 | Twist- | ah, indeed there is an installer available from the US account page. |
| 12:07.51 | Twist- | nice. |
| 12:07.52 | vithos | https://vith.mine.nu/WoW-2.0.0-enUS-Installer.torrent https://vith.mine.nu/WoW-BurningCrusade-enUS-Slim-Installer.torrent |
| 12:08.12 | vithos | those were extracted from the downloader executables |
| 12:08.17 | Twist- | I wonder if that one's prepatched |
| 12:08.21 | vithos | no |
| 12:08.28 | Twist- | boo-urns |
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| 12:09.25 | vithos | btw, don't bother with any of the other torrents on the index page of my site, they've probably replaced them with further rolled up updaters by now |
| 12:09.58 | Twist- | if this attempt doesn't work, I'll likely just use the blizzard torrent client |
| 12:10.06 | vithos | of course, my .torrents could be unused now too, i dunno |
| 12:10.14 | Twist- | saves having to download another |
| 12:10.46 | Twist- | my hard drive released the magic smoke yesterday, so I'm building up a new one.. I don't have much of anything installed yet |
| 12:10.48 | vithos | i think if you need the original wow installer, you get the blizzard downloader from page for the trial |
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| 12:11.17 | Twist- | 1.0 installed without a hitch |
| 12:11.43 | Twist- | are the .mpq files already compressed? |
| 12:11.54 | vithos | not sure |
| 12:12.10 | Twist- | wondering if I can archive my wow directory to dvd once my install is done this time around |
| 12:12.13 | vithos | keep in mind you can install 2.0 directly, if you're having trouble upgrading from 1.0 |
| 12:12.29 | Twist- | the 2.0 installer media demanded a 1.0 install first |
| 12:12.39 | Twist- | is there a workaround other than the 2.0 torrent? |
| 12:13.02 | vithos | WoW-2.0.0-enUS-Installer doesn't require anything previously be installed |
| 12:13.46 | vithos | you were probably working with a 2.0 upgrader |
| 12:14.12 | Twist- | assuming that's what came in the box on release day, yeah |
| 12:14.55 | vithos | oh the disks, yeah, that's probably the "burning crusade slim installer" |
| 12:15.23 | vithos | i forgot 2.0 isn't TBC |
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| 12:16.07 | Twist- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.41 | Twist- | nothing to do at this point but wait and see |
| 12:17.37 | Twist- | side question.. are there any known performance problems with older (socket 939) AMD processors? |
| 12:18.05 | Twist- | seems odd to have wow slammed at 100% CPU all the time |
| 12:18.15 | vithos | i use a 939 processor |
| 12:18.17 | Twist- | it's not that way on my old HT 2.8ghz p4 |
| 12:18.31 | vithos | x2 4400 |
| 12:18.58 | vithos | my cpu usage is closer to 25% |
| 12:19.09 | Twist- | plain athlon 64 3200+ here |
| 12:19.17 | Twist- | which is around 2ghz clock, iirc |
| 12:19.23 | CIA-4 | 03daviesh * r58530 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 12:19.23 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:19.23 | CIA-4 | - Fixed a major bug, due to an accidental deletion. The name of the mod |
| 12:19.23 | CIA-4 | ('AtlasLoot') was missing from the AL declaration at the top of the file. As a |
| 12:19.23 | CIA-4 | consequence, a blank translation table was used when parsing the file, resulting |
| 12:19.24 | CIA-4 | in major errors. |
| 12:19.28 | Twist- | it might just be too weak for the game |
| 12:19.40 | Ellipsis | for me WoW uses 100% when it's not in the foreground |
| 12:20.19 | vithos | 4400 is a 2.2GHz clock dualcore |
| 12:20.22 | Twist- | mine's 100% while it's displaying graphics.. fullscreen or windowed. very low while minimized. |
| 12:20.39 | Twist- | yeah, I've been considering upgrading to that chip, vithos. |
| 12:20.47 | Twist- | since they're dirt cheap now |
| 12:21.04 | Twist- | I just wish I knew for sure that my CPU was the bottleneck. |
| 12:21.17 | vithos | i wouldn't think there'd be much difference for wow |
| 12:21.19 | Twist- | and not some bonehead system config error |
| 12:21.39 | vithos | it seems weird that it'd be using 100% |
| 12:21.53 | Twist- | or an overzealous addon |
| 12:22.02 | Twist- | disabling them all gets me to 85/90% |
| 12:22.44 | Twist- | but that's my kneejerk reaction too.. something else is screwed up |
| 12:23.47 | Twist- | and I'm just not all that clueful about PC performance tweaking/benchmarking |
| 12:24.17 | Twist- | I'm using cheap/slow ram for one. |
| 12:24.41 | Twist- | but this isn't exactly farcry |
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| 12:33.20 | [Ammo] | hmmm jerry ain't on here is he? |
| 12:37.00 | vhaarr | no |
| 12:37.24 | [Ammo] | just wondering if he'd care to add AddonLoader stuff to Talented |
| 12:37.30 | [Ammo] | ## LoadManagers: AddonLoader |
| 12:37.38 | [Ammo] | ## X-LoadOn-Hooks: ToggleTalentFrame |
| 12:37.54 | [Ammo] | ## X-LoadOn-ToggleTalentFrame: LoadAddOn('Talented') |
| 12:37.54 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 12:38.03 | [Ammo] | or something like that |
| 12:38.22 | kagaro | Ammo: you busy atm? |
| 12:38.27 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 12:39.04 | kagaro | you want go look back over GatherMate, I added a bunch of stuff and got it all working minus a config system |
| 12:40.26 | [Ammo] | hmmok |
| 12:40.30 | [Ammo] | what works now? |
| 12:40.52 | kagaro | minimap icons, main map icons, mouse overs and deleting nodes fmor world map |
| 12:41.16 | kagaro | just need to read through aceconfig now to make a slash command |
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| 12:48.48 | Xinhuan | sorry kagaro, i had to do something related to schoolwork so i haven't looked at gathermate yet ;d |
| 12:49.02 | kagaro | im going over it with Ammo now |
| 12:49.16 | Xinhuan | i'm sure i'll find something to optimize hehe |
| 12:49.35 | Grum | let me read that sourcecode :D |
| 12:49.36 | Xinhuan | like how i chopped up GatherMate.lua into half its size |
| 12:50.07 | Grum | that lib will be the backbone for 'node storage' right? |
| 12:50.20 | Xinhuan | its not really a lib |
| 12:50.46 | Xinhuan | its more like Cartographer_Notes/Mining/herb/Fishing/Gas all rolled into 1 addon, but without the dependencies on any libraries |
| 12:50.53 | Xinhuan | except a few core ace3 ones |
| 12:50.59 | Xinhuan | and using 1/2 the memory |
| 12:51.12 | Grum | so other programs can query that database and retrieve nodes from it? |
| 12:51.18 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 12:51.30 | Xinhuan | there is an iterator function that other addons can call |
| 12:51.43 | Xinhuan | to return an iterator for all the nodes in a zone for a db |
| 12:51.47 | Stanzilla | and it will work with any map addon, right? |
| 12:51.55 | Xinhuan | yes Stanzilla, it will work with any map addon |
| 12:52.02 | Stanzilla | good :) |
| 12:52.48 | Stanzilla | can you set custom nodes like "XYZ Quest NPC HERE"? |
| 12:52.56 | Xinhuan | no |
| 12:53.01 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 12:53.19 | Xinhuan | once all of that is done, porting _Routes over too, the backend of path generation doesn't need to change |
| 12:53.28 | Xinhuan | only the rock config --> ace3config will be a pain in the ass |
| 12:53.34 | Grum | yeah just the 'where to look for data' |
| 12:54.05 | Grum | mm that will mean that Routes will loose its Cartographer 'need' |
| 12:54.22 | Xinhuan | nah, it'll be a separate addon |
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| 12:54.31 | Xinhuan | _routes is too dependant on cartographer, now |
| 12:54.45 | Stanzilla | seperate addon or build into GatherMate? |
| 12:54.46 | Grum | not really |
| 12:54.57 | Grum | Routes just retrieves nodes+some data |
| 12:55.03 | Grum | we cut it loose from more and more already |
| 12:55.14 | Xinhuan | well it has tie-ins to Rock, _notes event notifications for adding/deleting nodes |
| 12:55.19 | Xinhuan | and also integration to _waypoints |
| 12:55.29 | mitch0 | btw, whatever happened to ckk? left wow or just left #wowace? :) |
| 12:55.30 | Xinhuan | a bit difficult to undo all of that |
| 12:55.31 | Grum | both are 'stealable' |
| 12:55.51 | Xinhuan | i'll rather do it from scratch, make it read gathermate database first as a standalone |
| 12:55.53 | Grum | and i guess GatherMate will fire some event when it gets a new node |
| 12:55.57 | MoonWolf | ~seen ckknight |
| 12:56.00 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (19h 34m 1s) #wowace (19h 34m 1s). Has said a total of 62 messages. Is idling for 2h 59m 35s, last said: 'Arrowmaster: I agree'. |
| 12:56.00 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:56.00 | SunTsu | mitch0: He's here from time to time. looks like he is very busy at the moment |
| 12:56.04 | Xinhuan | then update it so it can also read cart_modules |
| 12:56.06 | Grum | but it doesnt lean too much on Carto as it is right now |
| 12:56.12 | Xinhuan | better that way |
| 12:58.07 | Grum | Xinhuan: will gathermate handle adding+deleting+storing+displaying of nodes? |
| 12:58.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
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| 12:58.32 | Grum | then it does all that we require from Carto |
| 12:58.49 | Xinhuan | adding - collector.lua, displaying/deleting - display.lua, storing - gathermate.lua |
| 12:59.02 | Xinhuan | GatherMateData - a wowhead datamined copy of every node |
| 12:59.29 | Xinhuan | we just need to add a cleanup function somewhere to kill nearby nodes |
| 12:59.51 | Grum | check Cartographer_Cleanup (orso) |
| 12:59.54 | kagaro | im double checking that in collector Xinhaun |
| 13:00.09 | Grum | kagaro: make sure you can run it manually any time you want |
| 13:00.13 | Xinhuan | at the moment kagaro, GatherMateData just inserts data directly, without removing nearby nodes |
| 13:00.42 | Xinhuan | so if wowhead updates its nodes, or a user herbs a node and it moves slightly, |
| 13:00.53 | Xinhuan | on next update, a duplicate would appear nearby 1 yard away |
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| 13:01.04 | kagaro | yeah thats true xinhuan |
| 13:01.17 | Grum | which is fine if you have a cleansing method :) |
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| 13:01.22 | Xinhuan | so a cleanup function is sorta required which Data can call |
| 13:01.27 | Xinhuan | or do its own cleanup |
| 13:01.33 | kagaro | yeah ill add one either today or tommarrow |
| 13:01.50 | Grum | would be best to make one that just iterates and cleans on particular database/nodetype |
| 13:02.03 | Grum | then you can just import data and say *clean* .. and have it nicely :P |
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| 13:03.21 | Xinhuan | 1 defense skill (not the rating) increases dodge, parry and block each by 0.04 is that right? |
| 13:03.49 | Grum | chance to be missed as well i think |
| 13:03.53 | [dRaCo] | sounds about right |
| 13:04.21 | Grum | Each point of +Defense skill adds 0.04% to the chance to be Missed, to Block, to Dodge and to Parry for players. |
| 13:06.26 | Xinhuan | that doesn't sound right |
| 13:06.36 | Grum | it is right |
| 13:06.41 | Grum | http://www.wowwiki.com/Defense |
| 13:06.48 | Xinhuan | chance to be missed? hmm |
| 13:06.55 | Grum | it affects 4 skills, giving a total of .16% |
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| 13:09.41 | Xinhuan | hmm this makes it easy to implement |
| 13:09.53 | Xinhuan | since i only need to add 0.04 directly per defense point |
| 13:10.27 | FtH|Daemona | Xinhuan of course it increaases chance to be missed, you are increasing the gap between enemy weapon skill and your defense skill -> lowering the enemies chance to hit, therefor you increase your chance to be missed |
| 13:10.27 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58531 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Constants.lua Display.lua): cleanedup addItem rare node detection, and updated consts for this new lookup |
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| 13:10.54 | Twist- | say, does anyone know of a replacement for discaord art, offhand? |
| 13:11.11 | FtH|Daemona | eepanels, xart, ... |
| 13:11.24 | Twist- | I just need to be able to place a single large black frame on my screen to obscure the area behind my buttons/minimap, etc |
| 13:11.45 | Xinhuan | what's a player's "default chance to be missed"? |
| 13:11.53 | Xinhuan | against equal level mobs |
| 13:12.02 | FtH|Daemona | vs equal level? probably 5% |
| 13:12.15 | FtH|Daemona | iÄd have to look that up though ;) |
| 13:13.42 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 1196; b = 1196; a = a * 1.01; b = b * 1.01; assert(a == b) |
| 13:13.42 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 13:14.00 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 1197; b = 1197; a = a * 1.03; b = b * 1.03; assert(a == b) |
| 13:14.01 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 13:14.04 | Xinhuan | dang |
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| 13:16.27 | Lukian | Xinhuan, yeah 5% against same level; -0.2% per additional iirc |
| 13:17.23 | Polarina | lua> a = 1197; b = 1197; a = a * 1.03; b = b * 1.03; print(a == b) |
| 13:17.24 | lua_bot | Polarina: true |
| 13:17.34 | Polarina | lua> assert(false) |
| 13:17.34 | lua_bot | Polarina: [string "assert(false)"]:1: assertion failed! |
| 13:17.43 | Xinhuan | so 5 points in Anticipation == 0.8% to each |
| 13:18.59 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58532 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: removed extra function calls that arent needed |
| 13:19.45 | Lukian | Xinhuan, that appears to be correct :) |
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| 13:20.24 | SunTsu | Twist-: Maybe you would like to adjust your viewport, which would make aperture a possible candidate |
| 13:21.47 | Ellipsis | hrm |
| 13:21.58 | Ellipsis | anyone here use tekMapEnhancer on a widescreen resolution? |
| 13:22.12 | Twist- | No.. I wind up with a nasty display ratio that way. My gnome is short enough as it stands. |
| 13:22.22 | Xinhuan | ... my left LCD monitor just popped/exploded and blackouted. |
| 13:22.23 | Twist- | xart seems just the thing |
| 13:22.36 | Ellipsis | grats Xinhuan |
| 13:22.45 | Xinhuan | well my IRC is on my right monitor |
| 13:23.06 | Ellipsis | luckily for you |
| 13:26.30 | Lukian | rofl Twist- XD |
| 13:26.35 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58533 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: minor optimizations |
| 13:26.43 | Xinhuan | i think my monitor is gone ~_~ |
| 13:26.56 | Xinhuan | luckily i have another 17" lcd in the storeroom |
| 13:27.15 | Lukian | Xinhuan, nasty, faulty or power surge/issue? :o |
| 13:27.23 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 13:27.30 | Xinhuan | it was just the single monitor |
| 13:27.37 | Xinhuan | everything else plugged in was fine |
| 13:27.47 | Xinhuan | is fine |
| 13:28.03 | Lukian | capacitor exploded? XD |
| 13:28.14 | Xinhuan | lcd -- screen went black for 1 second, then i heard a small "POP" sound issueing from it |
| 13:28.20 | Xinhuan | and the power light went out |
| 13:28.36 | Xinhuan | at least it wasn't like the BOOM from a CRT monitor |
| 13:28.40 | Ellipsis | they're trying to kill you |
| 13:28.49 | Ellipsis | hackers can turn your computer into a bomb! |
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| 13:29.36 | Xinhuan | brb |
| 13:30.19 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58534 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: fixes ups |
| 13:31.32 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58535 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: fixed a typo in GetLocale |
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| 13:32.22 | Recluse | gathermate == replacement for gatherer? o.O |
| 13:33.43 | kagaro | yeah recluse, but with less bells and whistles |
| 13:34.07 | kagaro | with entire wowhead db, its running around 1.7 megs total |
| 13:34.23 | Lukian | Recluse, alternative, something like that, I think it might be designed to work with all map mods or something |
| 13:34.39 | kagaro | yeah, it should work with any map mod |
| 13:34.53 | Dezzimal | cartographer_data + cartographer_routers? |
| 13:34.54 | Recluse | friendly with carto_routes? |
| 13:34.57 | kagaro | does mine,herb,fish and gas clouds |
| 13:34.57 | Dezzimal | routes* |
| 13:35.21 | kagaro | Recluse, Xinhaun is gona do a routes for it |
| 13:35.35 | Recluse | ah, cool then ^.^ |
| 13:35.46 | Dezzimal | on a scale of ckknight to 10 how much can his word be trusted? |
| 13:36.02 | Recluse | lol |
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| 13:37.10 | kagaro | Xinhaun is working with me so I would say good |
| 13:37.14 | Recluse | Dezzimal: if it has the wowhead database in it, won't need carto_data module |
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| 13:40.10 | kagaro | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/GatherMateData |
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| 13:47.58 | Recluse | i wonder if the use of private 'developemnt' servers is predominant in the addon community |
| 13:48.42 | TNSe | anyone know an addon that measures the amount of uptime of debuffs on a mod during a fight? |
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| 13:52.16 | Recluse | wtf? NIN is making an MMO? o.O |
| 13:52.37 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58536 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: start of config module |
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| 13:54.14 | Polarina | Recluse: NIN? Not in nothing? |
| 13:54.25 | Recluse | Polarina: Nine Inch Nails |
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| 13:58.59 | Xinhuan | brb, restarting comp to install new lcd ~_~ |
| 13:59.31 | Kaktuz- | Lol checkout the FPS of this guy (He's complaining that the addons are reducing his FPS): |
| 13:59.32 | Kaktuz- | With interface: |
| 13:59.34 | Kaktuz- | Normal: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5843/with1rd2.jpg |
| 13:59.36 | Kaktuz- | Looking down: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9026/with2dt6.jpg |
| 13:59.38 | Kaktuz- | Without interface: |
| 13:59.40 | Kaktuz- | Normal: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2207/without1kh9.jpg |
| 13:59.42 | Kaktuz- | Looking down: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/351/without2sz1.png |
| 14:00.16 | Dezzimal | your point kaktuz? |
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| 14:00.42 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58537 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: baseline adding config options |
| 14:00.56 | kenlyric | i'd sacrifice a goat for 57.8 |
| 14:01.01 | kenlyric | don't him to shut the fuck up. |
| 14:01.07 | kenlyric | don't? |
| 14:01.12 | Recluse | kenlyric: same |
| 14:01.13 | kenlyric | what kind of fucked up typo was that? |
| 14:01.51 | xyu | Hmm strange. We have a mage in our guild with the name "Vem" and in every one of our WWS parses we seem to fight a boss named Lord Kri. lol |
| 14:01.53 | [Liquidor] | i play 60-70 |
| 14:03.16 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 14:03.20 | Recluse | i'm normally about 15, 20 on a good day |
| 14:03.21 | Xinhuan | those are AQ40 bosses |
| 14:03.37 | xyu | Yeah, it's crazy |
| 14:03.43 | xyu | it's screwing up our logs >< |
| 14:03.47 | Lukian | haha |
| 14:03.52 | Xinhuan | apparently i need to install IE7 before i can shutdown my comp to install my backup lcd |
| 14:04.03 | xyu | apparently we did 8M dmg to lord kri too |
| 14:04.42 | kenlyric | back to the original question, apparently it doesn't require the greatest strain on graphics processors to draw *http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/351/without2sz1.png* |
| 14:04.47 | xyu | http://wowwebstats.com/iw323t3lvcy5q |
| 14:04.55 | xyu | check out the boss list |
| 14:05.08 | kenlyric | oh god, that's so blinding everytime I look at it. |
| 14:05.15 | xyu | ignore the 50 milllion archimonde attempts rofl |
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| 14:05.19 | Xinhuan | you could do a search-replace everytime before you upload |
| 14:05.21 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58538 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: baseline config options added, todo filters |
| 14:05.21 | kenlyric | someone actually sat down and thought that was a good color scheme. |
| 14:05.25 | Xinhuan | and replace Vem with Vemp |
| 14:05.44 | xyu | hmm good idea, i'll have to tell our wws uploader to do that |
| 14:06.04 | Lukian | kenlyric, hmm I've seen worse |
| 14:06.13 | [Liquidor] | lol wws changed theme? :S |
| 14:06.16 | Xinhuan | i wonder what happens |
| 14:06.22 | Xinhuan | if Alar played at Alar boss |
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| 14:06.31 | kenlyric | Lukian: hampsterdance? |
| 14:06.32 | xyu | alar has a quotation in his name |
| 14:06.37 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 14:06.38 | xyu | It's A'lar |
| 14:06.39 | Xinhuan | dang |
| 14:06.41 | xyu | yea :( |
| 14:06.57 | kenlyric | let's just start with 200 pixel header. |
| 14:06.59 | kenlyric | ABORTION |
| 14:07.10 | xyu | on a side note, check me out on azgelor! oh yea! |
| 14:07.35 | xyu | even though "dps" was a bit low, i swear everytime i popped trinket his silence would go off :P |
| 14:08.10 | kenlyric | you have no holy priests? |
| 14:08.18 | xyu | not that night, which was terrible for archi |
| 14:08.40 | xyu | usually yes, we run w/ more |
| 14:10.20 | RaydenUni | hello |
| 14:15.31 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58539 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Display.lua Libs/): updated externals for Aceconfig |
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| 14:24.05 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58540 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Display.lua): updated todo note |
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| 14:28.13 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r58541 10Whats/ (8 files): Whats - First Release |
| 14:31.09 | xyu | First release is the release that is first that's what it is |
| 14:31.15 | xyu | who's on first? |
| 14:31.55 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r58542 10Whats/: |
| 14:31.55 | CIA-4 | Whats : |
| 14:31.55 | CIA-4 | - add Externals |
| 14:32.09 | Snago | What's Whats? |
| 14:33.25 | kenlyric | out of scouts |
| 14:34.31 | Fin | kergoth: would you mind testing my site again please? |
| 14:35.17 | CIA-4 | 03scorpion * r58543 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 14:35.17 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 14:35.17 | CIA-4 | - update zhTW localization |
| 14:35.17 | CIA-4 | - update zhCN localization |
| 14:35.51 | Antiarc | Hmm. |
| 14:36.02 | Antiarc | Does anyone know if there is an automated method for testing all of your named routes? |
| 14:36.20 | Fin | testing what? |
| 14:36.29 | Antiarc | Wait, this is not the rubyonrails channel |
| 14:36.32 | Antiarc | Time for me to sleep |
| 14:36.35 | Antiarc | Holy crap, it's 7:30 |
| 14:36.54 | Stanzilla | good night, Antiarc :P |
| 14:37.07 | Antiarc | Morning, but yeah. See ya'll tomorrow afternoon :P |
| 14:38.03 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
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| 14:41.43 | Polarina | The addon tekJunkSeller is terrible, counting the average number of bugs/issues relative to the number of lines. |
| 14:42.38 | Stanzilla | do you use the latest version Polarina? |
| 14:42.51 | Polarina | Stanzilla: The latest version on Wow Interface. |
| 14:45.06 | Stanzilla | I've never had any issues with it |
| 14:45.32 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58544 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): added config menu localizations |
| 14:45.46 | kagaro | Antiarc: I believe there is a rake task for it in 2.0 |
| 14:49.30 | Polarina | Stanzilla: I know of 2 bugs in that addon and 1 "financial" issue. |
| 14:49.59 | Stanzilla | you should tell tekkub |
| 14:50.02 | kagaro | who is the Jira admin? |
| 14:50.06 | Polarina | Possibly 3 bugs but I haven't checked if it's just me or not. |
| 14:50.08 | nevcairiel | kaelten |
| 14:50.17 | kagaro | kaelten: you there? |
| 14:50.19 | Stanzilla | Polarina: what's wrong? |
| 14:50.31 | kagaro | ~seen kaelten |
| 14:50.34 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 27m 43s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 14:50.34 | Polarina | Stanzilla: Tekkub wants his addon to be as simple as possible. Fixing these bugs takes a fair amount of code. |
| 14:52.37 | Polarina | Stanzilla: I think Tekkub is on his assumptation that creating a addon that does very simple things (Such as tekJunkSeller) can always be done with a short amount of code. |
| 14:53.03 | Stanzilla | hm yup |
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| 14:54.07 | bigzero | Polarina, what are the issues? |
| 14:54.10 | Polarina | Stanzilla: For tekJunkSeller, I speak of experience on that part of addon development (Vendors and stuff) |
| 14:54.47 | Stanzilla | okay |
| 14:55.07 | Polarina | bigzero: (Bug 1): You get a message "The merchant doesn't want that item." each time you visit a vendor if you have a poor quality item in your inventory that has no sell price. |
| 14:56.40 | Xinhuan | there are some items some vendors don't want that another vendor would want |
| 14:56.51 | Xinhuan | can't remember what that item was offhand |
| 14:56.52 | bigzero | Xinhuan, really? |
| 14:56.53 | Polarina | bigzero: (Bug 2): The addon is automatically selling the poor quality items you had **manually* bough from a vendor (A vendor in Halaa sells a poor quality item for example). |
| 14:56.55 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 14:57.07 | Fin | Polarina: that's not a bug |
| 14:57.08 | bigzero | didn't know |
| 14:57.39 | Polarina | Fin: If the user purchases that item manually, he obviously doesn't want it be automatically vendored. |
| 14:57.49 | bigzero | add it to the exception list |
| 14:57.52 | Fin | granted it might need a way of specifying what to leave out, but you can't assume that just because you bought an item that it's no longer junk |
| 14:57.53 | bigzero | problem solved |
| 14:58.25 | Fin | OK, so it *has* a way of filtering stuff out :) |
| 14:58.30 | Polarina | bigzero: (Addition to bug 1): Same error message appears if the poor quality item is broken (0 durability), even if it has a sell price. |
| 14:58.40 | Snago | Grey items are useless items.. If the user for some reason wants to keep some grey items he shouldn't use an addon that sells all grey items :P |
| 14:58.41 | bigzero | maybe, idk Fin. I don't use it. I use AutoProfitX |
| 14:59.04 | Fin | which suffers from bug 1) also |
| 14:59.13 | Xinhuan | i sell things manually, and always double check the buyback tab :) |
| 14:59.32 | Fin | for such a prolific addon author, I find that surprising |
| 14:59.33 | Xinhuan | i sold my mount in closed beta before LOL and no buyback tab |
| 14:59.52 | Xinhuan | back then it has a sell price - 1/4 of the buying price |
| 14:59.56 | bigzero | hehe, i've sold all my gear using APX |
| 15:00.03 | bigzero | that was in the bags |
| 15:00.07 | Fin | I've sent in a ticket one time because I thought I'd sold my epic boots, but actually I'd just left them in the bank |
| 15:00.54 | bigzero | Polarina, now 0 durability junk...hmmm, i never thought about that. But why would have something that's "junk" at 0 durability? |
| 15:01.09 | Xinhuan | you could have spirit rezzed 4x! |
| 15:01.18 | Xinhuan | or you were wearing a "junk item" for fashion |
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| 15:01.19 | bigzero | oh, lol...i suppose |
| 15:01.20 | Xinhuan | and died 10 x |
| 15:01.21 | Fin | ooh, does it stack? |
| 15:01.26 | Fin | res sickness? |
| 15:01.30 | bigzero | yeah |
| 15:01.32 | bigzero | haha |
| 15:01.34 | Fin | awesome! |
| 15:01.35 | Xinhuan | and you wanted to keep the fasion item |
| 15:01.47 | Fin | or maybe you just bought something accidentally |
| 15:02.00 | bigzero | bought it at 0 durability? |
| 15:02.13 | Fin | no, just misclicked |
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| 15:05.10 | Polarina | bigzero: (Issue 1: Financial): The formula for calculating the sell price of a item is in most cases "<sell price> - <repair cost without discounts>" (With some exceptions), however, vendors do provide discounts for repair costs depending on the vendors faction and your status with that faction, so repairing a item before vendoring it usually provides a better amount of money from vendoring but the exceptions to that formula makes a fix for that |
| 15:05.24 | Fin | oh, bigzero, did you see my Mirror request btw? |
| 15:07.23 | bigzero | Fin, nope, haven't checked yet. I will look at it today. Don't have time now though :-( |
| 15:07.55 | Xinhuan | what, repairing an item before vendoring gives you more money due to faction repair discount? |
| 15:08.34 | Polarina | bigzero: (Bug 3 (Unchecked and unconfirmed)): Visiting a vendor while in combat lockdown and you have a poor quality item in your backpack results in a in-game combat taint. I'm guessin on that since wowwiki says UseContainerItem is PROTECTED... |
| 15:08.36 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Yes. |
| 15:08.56 | bigzero | Polarina, that doesn't taint |
| 15:08.59 | bigzero | i checked |
| 15:09.01 | Fin | bigzero: I'm not sure if that meant you haven't seen the request, or not implemented it |
| 15:09.07 | bigzero | i use the same method for APX |
| 15:09.10 | Xinhuan | Polarina, that isn't a taint :D |
| 15:09.17 | Polarina | bigzero: It depends on which of these addons recieves the MERCHANT_SHOW event first. |
| 15:09.17 | bigzero | Fin, haven't seen |
| 15:09.26 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It was a pure guess. |
| 15:09.33 | Xinhuan | UseContainerItem is indeed PROTECTED - it just means you can't auto-sell items while in combat |
| 15:09.36 | Polarina | bigzero: See my last message to Xinhuan. |
| 15:09.37 | Fin | bigzero: oh, righto. I asked for an option to only show the comparison tooltip while a modifier key is held down. |
| 15:09.44 | Xinhuan | but you definitely can the moment you exit combat |
| 15:10.12 | Xinhuan | kind of like Proximo - you can change the macro /target etcetc out of combat by an addon, but not while in combat |
| 15:10.17 | Polarina | Xinhuan: But if you are IN combat at the time when you open a merchant window (That's what I think could cause a taint) |
| 15:10.32 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't, you just get a popup dialog that tells you an action is blocked |
| 15:10.34 | [Ammo] | unless the addon checks for InCombatLockown() |
| 15:10.38 | Xinhuan | all your addon needs to add is check what ammo said |
| 15:10.47 | Polarina | Xinhuan: A action blocked, that's what I count as a bug. |
| 15:10.58 | Xinhuan | action blocked isn't necessarily a taint |
| 15:11.06 | Polarina | [Ammo]: Exactly! But tekJunkSeller doesn't do that. |
| 15:11.10 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r58545 10Whats/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:11.10 | CIA-4 | Whats : |
| 15:11.10 | CIA-4 | - fix Externals |
| 15:11.10 | CIA-4 | - add Locale(enUS, koKR) |
| 15:11.15 | Xinhuan | an action blocked merely means a script tried to do something it isn't allowed to do in combat |
| 15:11.26 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Or whatever that is called (I'm talking about a action blocked thing) |
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| 15:11.54 | [Ammo] | Polarina: then don't visit vendors in combat |
| 15:11.55 | [Ammo] | :) |
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| 15:12.20 | Xinhuan | there's really only a few places you can enter combat while at a vendor hehe |
| 15:12.22 | Xinhuan | like Halaa |
| 15:12.28 | Xinhuan | and area52, maybe gadgetzan etc |
| 15:12.32 | Polarina | [Ammo]: I know people usually wont, but it can still occur (Cartographer does a blocked action when I'm added to a group with the LFG tool). |
| 15:12.34 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: actually everywhere |
| 15:12.40 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Duels! |
| 15:12.54 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 15:13.02 | [Ammo] | it's a minor detail |
| 15:13.05 | Polarina | So, it's a bug. :) |
| 15:13.05 | [Ammo] | and you should talk to tekkub about it |
| 15:13.08 | Xinhuan | Whats whats? |
| 15:13.09 | [Ammo] | instead of whining here |
| 15:13.12 | Xinhuan | [1/15 23:11:10] <CIA-4> damjau * r58545 Whats/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:13.16 | [Ammo] | he has a bugreport link for his addons |
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| 15:13.25 | TNSe | anyone know an addon that measures the amount of uptime of debuffs on a mod during a fight? |
| 15:13.29 | [Ammo] | whats is a shite addon since he didn't describe it when committing |
| 15:13.32 | [Ammo] | it's now on the shitlist |
| 15:13.43 | Polarina | [Ammo]: ? |
| 15:13.50 | TNSe | or alternatively, measures amount of uptime of buffs during a fight :P |
| 15:14.06 | Xinhuan | TNSe, i know of no such mod, sorry :) |
| 15:14.14 | TNSe | dang >_> |
| 15:14.17 | [Ammo] | Polarina: tekkub has a googletracker for bugreports |
| 15:14.22 | [Ammo] | report your bug there instead of in this channel :) |
| 15:14.33 | Xinhuan | Whats v0.1 |
| 15:14.34 | Xinhuan | ## Notes: Show item info in tooltip |
| 15:14.34 | Xinhuan | ## Notes-koKR: ì•„ì´ÅœìÂËœ 드랠ì •ë³´ë¥¼ È´ÃÅ’Â엠ќ시թ니다. |
| 15:14.38 | [Ammo] | and the shite stuff was about the addon Whats |
| 15:14.40 | TNSe | want to measure how long uptime I manage to keep on my dots :P |
| 15:15.04 | Xinhuan | ## Title: |CFF00CED1W|r|CFFFFFFFFhats|r |
| 15:15.10 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 15:15.57 | vithos | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Whats/WhatsItemInfo.lua scares me |
| 15:15.59 | bigzero | Xinhuan, you can use UseContainerItem to sell items in combat. You can't use it to use a pot though |
| 15:16.14 | Xinhuan | heh really |
| 15:16.17 | bigzero | yeah |
| 15:16.21 | Polarina | [Ammo]: Yes, but I find it kind of hard to believe that one who is a ***Featured Artist*** at wowinterface released a addon where the code is only 15 lines and I discovered 3 bugs and one issue with it. |
| 15:16.36 | bigzero | lol, i tested it after 2.3 ( I think ) broke selling stacked items |
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| 15:16.54 | [Ammo] | Polarina: talk to tekkub about it, and he'll probably tell you to report it on his googlecode tracker |
| 15:17.22 | [Ammo] | or even better |
| 15:17.26 | [Ammo] | provide a proper patch |
| 15:17.40 | Polarina | bigzero: You can sell stacked items to a vendor with 2.3 and the current patch without any addons installed. |
| 15:17.50 | Polarina | bigzero: I never ever had a issue with that.. |
| 15:19.10 | bigzero | Polarina, it was broken. The old method that most auto-sell addons were using including APX was to pickup an item and drop it on endor window. |
| 15:19.41 | bigzero | they patched it up though |
| 15:19.53 | bigzero | but useContainerItem is much better anyway |
| 15:20.29 | bigzero | Fin, where did you post the request? |
| 15:20.46 | Polarina | bigzero: It was never broken for me, I always right-click when I buy/sell something to/from a vendor. I've never used Drag & Drop for that, ever. The only thing that annoys me is that I'm UNABLE to right click a item to add it to the trade window!! |
| 15:21.05 | Osstia | Polarina: you are? |
| 15:21.11 | Polarina | Osstia: Yes. |
| 15:21.14 | Osstia | thats odd |
| 15:21.32 | Osstia | I used to use alt+click, but now the default ui uses right click for me |
| 15:21.38 | bigzero | Polarina, well, the fact that you don't use it doesn't mean it wasn't broken. the items would not sell and would get stuck to the cursor |
| 15:21.50 | Xinhuan | hey ammo, why does Littlewigs report the wrong wave in Black Morass, if its enabled after wave 1? |
| 15:21.50 | bigzero | right-click is evil |
| 15:21.52 | Polarina | bigzero: It could be. |
| 15:21.53 | vithos | what if you were right clicking a consumable to add it to the trade window, and the other person walked away? |
| 15:22.01 | bigzero | exactly |
| 15:22.09 | Xinhuan | the wave number is like, right in the WorldFrameAlwaysUp itself |
| 15:22.09 | bigzero | alt-click is ftw |
| 15:22.13 | Polarina | vithos: It still annoys me.. |
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| 15:22.16 | CIA-4 | 03celellach * r58546 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 15:22.16 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:22.16 | CIA-4 | - small cleanup |
| 15:22.19 | Osstia | vithos: i agree, i don't like right click. I much preferred alt+click for that reason |
| 15:22.43 | vithos | i've used alt-click. right click would just be dangerous |
| 15:23.06 | Xinhuan | left click-drop on trade for dangerous items :) |
| 15:23.39 | bigzero | Fin, i can't find your suggestion |
| 15:24.35 | vithos | that's a good plan, but the less conditionals in the interface habits i form, the less chance of me screwing up |
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| 15:27.35 | Trela | I am a complete noob at SVN. |
| 15:28.08 | vithos | elkano, i was just thinking about how i should switch back to your buff bars today :) |
| 15:28.55 | vithos | do you have a screenshot of how you've configured them? i'm curious |
| 15:28.56 | Fin | bigzero: I asked you on TS |
| 15:28.58 | Fin | err wtf |
| 15:29.00 | Fin | -TS+IRC |
| 15:29.23 | bigzero | :-( |
| 15:29.28 | Fin | this sucks cast iron donkey balls |
| 15:30.09 | bigzero | Fin, what's wrong with default ui for that? |
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| 15:33.46 | bigzero | I am thinking of writting MirrorGnome, which would allow you to show items in your other sets in the comparison tooltips |
| 15:34.13 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r58547 10Whats/: |
| 15:34.13 | CIA-4 | Whats : |
| 15:34.13 | CIA-4 | - fix External |
| 15:34.24 | Fin | bigzero: where do you set it? |
| 15:34.25 | Elkano | vithos, I use the default ^^' |
| 15:34.50 | Fin | I looked for it and couldn't find it |
| 15:34.52 | bigzero | Fin, in the default ui? if you don't have Mirror, you press shift and then it shows the comparison |
| 15:35.08 | Fin | bigzero: where is the option to enable or disable that? |
| 15:35.15 | bigzero | umm |
| 15:35.19 | bigzero | i don't remember |
| 15:35.25 | Fin | I don't think there is one |
| 15:35.31 | bigzero | there might not be one |
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| 15:35.45 | bigzero | but why do you want to disable it? |
| 15:36.13 | Fin | bigzero: because most of the time I don't need to see a comparison between the items I'm dealing with and what I have equipped |
| 15:36.18 | RaydenUni | hey i need some help guys |
| 15:36.18 | vithos | Elkano: interesting. well i'm glad you made them so configurable for my sake ;) |
| 15:36.34 | RaydenUni | i'm writing a paper on good/bad game world design and i'm using WoW for my good game world design |
| 15:36.37 | bigzero | Fin, so get rid of Mirror and then just press shift when you need to see it |
| 15:36.51 | RaydenUni | i want to show the video from War3 of Arthas killing his father and then i want to show some screenshots of the throne room in UC |
| 15:37.00 | RaydenUni | but i can't log on cause the servers are offline |
| 15:37.04 | Fin | I started using Mirror because it had the tooltip-on-hover feature |
| 15:37.05 | Elkano | if you got a cool setup feel free to post a screenshot in the wowace forum's thread |
| 15:37.07 | RaydenUni | you guys have any screenshots of that location? |
| 15:37.21 | Xinhuan | that's a video from war3 |
| 15:37.25 | Xinhuan | why would you need to logon? |
| 15:37.34 | RaydenUni | i want screenshots from in WoW |
| 15:37.37 | RaydenUni | to show it's the same place |
| 15:37.57 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 15:37.58 | bigzero | Fin, hmmm i'll think of adding a way to disable always showing the comparison |
| 15:38.25 | Fin | well, that's better than a kick in the teeth. thanks! |
| 15:38.29 | bigzero | Fin, should it be kept for link-click tooltips (i.e. ItemRef tooltips) |
| 15:39.11 | bigzero | so if you click item links it will always show comparisons? |
| 15:39.34 | bigzero | man...now i have to probably add AceConsole to it :-/ |
| 15:39.44 | bigzero | for nice menu and stuff |
| 15:39.52 | Fin | bigzero: no |
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| 15:40.08 | Fin | just, if you toggle the option, then the comparison tooltip(s) only show when the key is held down |
| 15:40.21 | Fin | it's basically comparison-on-demand |
| 15:40.41 | Fin | in an easy handy dandy accessible location that requires a mere click of a key to view |
| 15:41.20 | bigzero | Fin, I don't see how i can make those tooltips on-demand for ItemRefs |
| 15:41.44 | Fin | just the comparison tooltips |
| 15:42.03 | bigzero | anyway, i'll see what I can do. Should probably see an update in a day or two. A little busy right now |
| 15:42.26 | Fin | well, that's better than a smack in the balls |
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| 15:43.37 | Fin | OK, perhaps I should've expected that |
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| 15:46.17 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58548 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua GatherMate.lua): filter defaults |
| 15:53.02 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58549 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua WoWEquipData.lua): WoWEquip: - Add defense talent calculations |
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| 15:53.39 | Trela | Does any one in here use RapidSVN for OS X? |
| 15:54.56 | Osstia | I just use the cli version on my mac Trela |
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| 15:55.19 | Trela | <-- SVN noob, unfortunately. |
| 15:57.38 | Osstia | I am as well |
| 15:57.49 | Osstia | but I can read man pages |
| 15:57.58 | Osstia | which has gotten me started |
| 15:58.11 | Osstia | I went and got a googlecode SVN repository to learn |
| 15:59.31 | Merl | SVN Sandbox works to :) |
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| 16:02.14 | Chosi | is there something like expense history for fubar? |
| 16:02.44 | Merl | yepp, money_fu or something |
| 16:03.08 | Merl | Chosi: FuBar_MoneyFu |
| 16:03.14 | Chosi | alright thanks :) |
| 16:03.17 | Trela | I just hate SVN since you import to export and upload. |
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| 16:04.36 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58550 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: herb filter section |
| 16:06.18 | Trela | Only if I could figure out where to set svn:eol-style is not set. |
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| 16:14.24 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro 07Locales * r58551 10GatherMate/GatherMate-enUS.lua: added the locale entries for teh menu |
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| 16:18.20 | Pkekyo| | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
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| 16:19.21 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo|: baesj is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:19.35 | Estil | qq maintenance |
| 16:19.56 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58552 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): more config entries and their localizations |
| 16:20.09 | Trela | Do I have to do a voodoo dance to make SVN work? Sheesh. |
| 16:20.47 | Merl | Trela: Nah, prob just need to get used to it |
| 16:23.55 | Estil | I want to get my s3 wand already :( |
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| 16:24.44 | CIA-4 | 037destiny * r58553 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua: |
| 16:24.44 | CIA-4 | JewelTips: |
| 16:24.44 | CIA-4 | - Added enchantID(Enchant Cloak - Stealth) |
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| 16:27.17 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = {}; a[a] = a; print(a) |
| 16:27.17 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: { [<table: #1>] = <table: #1> } (#1) |
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| 16:31.02 | kagaro | ill have some testing to do once the servers come up |
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| 16:39.17 | Trela | I try to set EOL, but no~ |
| 16:39.54 | Pkekyo| | ThraeBotPkekyo|: baesj is not the character you are looking for! <--- fuck you, yes it is |
| 16:40.24 | Pkekyo| | hmm...what horde race priest should I roll? :p |
| 16:40.35 | Trela | Troll. |
| 16:40.42 | Stanzilla | Undead for spriest |
| 16:40.53 | mykx | undead for op racials |
| 16:40.54 | Trela | Troll! The superior race. |
| 16:41.20 | SunTsu | Trela: Nice trolling ;) |
| 16:41.44 | Trela | Eh? |
| 16:42.00 | SunTsu | Trela: I assume that you play one ;) |
| 16:42.06 | Trela | Yes, a shaman. |
| 16:42.30 | Trela | http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3002/trelasketchmj6.jpg |
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| 16:44.13 | Pkekyo| | hmm undead pracials + undead racial seems nice |
| 16:44.19 | Osstia | I would say BE or Undead |
| 16:44.25 | Osstia | I am a troll priest, and it sucks |
| 16:44.47 | Osstia | I rolled one Day 1 because I didn't know about racials and I am tall and skinny and so were trolls |
| 16:45.03 | [dRaCo] | the BE silence thingy comes pretty handy in arena |
| 16:45.11 | Osstia | yep |
| 16:45.16 | [dRaCo] | so does wotf, though |
| 16:45.37 | Osstia | so does berserking, wait, no, it doesn't |
| 16:46.01 | Osstia | but +throwing does, wait, no, it doesn't |
| 16:46.49 | [dRaCo] | at least you do not suffer from anorexia like those female BEs |
| 16:46.49 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 16:47.54 | Trela | 20/41/0 Enhancement Troll Shaman + Berserking + Bloodlust = Ultimate Suicide Death Machine. |
| 16:48.31 | [dRaCo] | yeah, but you wont do that much damage... |
| 16:49.18 | SunTsu | Well, if you don't you still have that suicide part |
| 16:49.28 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that one's for real |
| 16:50.01 | [dRaCo] | 2/45/13 is better |
| 16:50.07 | [dRaCo] | (imo) |
| 16:54.44 | Kivin | sigh. three more hours of maintenance |
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| 16:55.43 | Kivin | any 70 hunters here? |
| 16:55.49 | chiper | kivin: aye |
| 16:55.58 | Trela | Oh! Is it starting?! |
| 16:56.06 | chiper | in 4 minutes |
| 16:56.41 | Kivin | http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6261/shot2oo6.jpg |
| 16:56.48 | Kivin | I've been examining this shot rotation, and it seems broken, imo |
| 16:57.07 | Kivin | why the hell does the person that drew it have global cooldowns after each steady shot |
| 16:57.25 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58554 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.toc: udpated toc for savedvars |
| 16:57.25 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58555 10/branches/GatherMate/Collector.lua: find and replace error fixed |
| 16:57.38 | SunTsu | .o0( Can "Mac" be found on top of the "known sects" list? ) |
| 16:57.57 | chiper | yeah, it seems like they dont get when the GCD fires |
| 16:58.01 | Trela | I am pissy at Apple. |
| 16:58.37 | Kivin | chiper: Alright, I thought that so, but but article that image came from seemed intelligent enough, so i was hesitant to say it's wrong |
| 16:58.52 | chiper | only time I ever have GCD pause is when I use a sting or arcane shot |
| 16:59.09 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58556 10/branches/GatherMate/Collector.lua: it helps if you add the right text in |
| 16:59.24 | chiper | oh, you know what, that pink block is probably arcane shot |
| 16:59.27 | chiper | that would make sense |
| 17:00.02 | chiper | yeah, this is pretty close to my rotation |
| 17:00.29 | chiper | tho I mix it up with a sting or concussive shot |
| 17:00.48 | Kivin | that image is theoretical max raid dps, i think, so it doesn't consider things like conc |
| 17:01.29 | chiper | *nod* |
| 17:02.17 | chiper | tho conc is still good for an extra hit. even if the snare is immune, it still causes damage |
| 17:02.28 | Kivin | conc doesn't do damage |
| 17:02.40 | Kivin | i use it to pull things often specifically because it doesn't do damage |
| 17:02.46 | chiper | I thought all shots caused damage, hense why they use ammo |
| 17:02.52 | Kivin | no... |
| 17:03.04 | chiper | hmm |
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| 17:03.38 | Kivin | Since I'm 41 pts BM, I'm thinking I'm going to find the fastest bow/gun I can get my hand on and just use a simple 1:1 autoshot steadyshot |
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| 17:05.26 | Stanzilla | http://www.macrumorslive.com/ is still working |
| 17:05.39 | chiper | stan: works for me, just got an update |
| 17:05.45 | chiper | gizmodo is also doing a live blog |
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| 17:06.32 | chiper | kivin: I tend to prefer a fast shoot speed, myself. higher chance of procs |
| 17:07.03 | Kivin | chiper: What kind of procs? |
| 17:07.33 | chiper | I still hung onto my gun I got at 45 that has a 1.5sec shoot speed. I need to see how fast I can get that thing shooting with my trinkets |
| 17:07.43 | Kivin | Not to pick you to peices, but most procs (chance on hit trinkets, etc) have a normalized proc per minute, no matter your weapon speed |
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| 17:09.20 | chiper | hrm, can't remember the names. frenzy is one. then there's the one from imp hawk aspect, and killing blow I think is the name of another? it's the one that improves your next arcane/aimed shot |
| 17:09.56 | Kivin | But it seems to me that a tight 1:1 rotation would be similar dps to a really sloppy 3.0-3.1 second rotation, and a lot more mana efficient without the arcane shots |
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| 17:12.23 | chiper | dunno, hunter isnt my main, isnt even raid geared yet |
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| 17:12.59 | Kivin | think i'm going with a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29152 |
| 17:13.07 | Kivin | that'll have a 2.03 speed with a 15% quiver |
| 17:17.22 | Recluse | to generate data from wowhead/thottbot/etc, best way is to just write a page scraper, or do they have some other... xml object(?) output you can snag or something? |
| 17:17.59 | exor674 | wowhead has xml |
| 17:19.56 | Recluse | hmm |
| 17:20.23 | CIA-4 | 03aznamir * r58557 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 17:20.23 | CIA-4 | PallyPower: |
| 17:20.23 | CIA-4 | - fixed typo in ScanSpells |
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| 17:33.59 | bigzero | Recluse, wowhead xml is only available for items though, not spells and other stuff |
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| 17:34.41 | bigzero | allakhazam has xml as well, but idk...that site looks kinda shady to me |
| 17:34.53 | Recluse | bigzero: yeah, that's what i was afraid of :p |
| 17:35.18 | bigzero | Recluse, what are you trying to extract? |
| 17:35.19 | Twist- | er, doesn't the same outfit own all three of the online wow databases? |
| 17:35.32 | bigzero | maybe, but wowhead >> others |
| 17:35.53 | Twist- | so I'm not sure where you going with "looks shady" |
| 17:35.57 | bigzero | Recluse, i have a couple perl script written to extract various data |
| 17:36.15 | bigzero | Twist-, maybe shady wasn't the right choice of word |
| 17:36.34 | Twist- | the layout is poor |
| 17:36.47 | Twist- | the source data isn't |
| 17:37.23 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58558 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Display.lua GatherMate.lua): checkpoint code |
| 17:37.50 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r58559 10Whats/Whats.lua: |
| 17:37.50 | CIA-4 | Whats : |
| 17:37.50 | CIA-4 | - fix 'colorCode' error |
| 17:37.50 | CIA-4 | - add itembutton schedule func |
| 17:38.10 | kergoth | Whats whats? |
| 17:38.17 | bigzero | noone knows |
| 17:38.38 | bigzero | the initial commit message was "Initial submit" :-) |
| 17:39.01 | bigzero | the toc says "show item info in tooltip" |
| 17:39.06 | durcyn | damn, the koreans are writing their own addons now? |
| 17:39.34 | Recluse | bigzero: basically wanted to dump the profession pages into lua tables. ie: bronze bar would be ["2841"] = { ["Skill"] = 65, ["Yield"] = 2, ["Reagents"] = { ["2840"] = 1, ["3576"] = 1 } } or something similar |
| 17:40.01 | bigzero | Recluse, sec, i'll pastey something that i have that could help you |
| 17:40.30 | Recluse | sweet ^.^ |
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| 17:42.00 | Recluse | was going to start making a page scraper from php to pull it all, but figured i'd ask if there was an easier method :p |
| 17:42.41 | Kivin | if wowhead has xml, that'd be great for me. i'm currently datamining armory for item data for Lootzor |
| 17:43.04 | Recluse | they do, but only for each item |
| 17:43.22 | Recluse | like, you got the itemid, you can get xml for it |
| 17:43.24 | Kivin | Lukian: It's extremely beta. Usable, but the only complete loot table on it is the pvp section |
| 17:43.52 | bigzero | http://ace.pastey.net/80723 |
| 17:44.01 | kagaro | Kivin: wowhead is not xml |
| 17:44.03 | Lukian | I'm happy if it harvests ingame links, but I've come to enjoy auto-link capability when you type an item name |
| 17:44.17 | kagaro | err doesnt have, lots of parsing involved |
| 17:44.23 | Kivin | kagaro: <bigzero> Recluse, wowhead xml is only available for items though, not spells and other stuff |
| 17:44.41 | kagaro | ohh didnt know tat |
| 17:44.41 | exor674 | kagaro: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2841&xml :P |
| 17:44.44 | Kivin | either it does or it doesn't, which one is it? |
| 17:44.45 | bigzero | Recluse, that perl script should work... i think. haven't run it in a while |
| 17:44.47 | Recluse | Kivin: right, sadly lol |
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| 17:45.12 | Recluse | bigzero: thanks, i'll check it out here in a short bit |
| 17:45.18 | bigzero | Recluse, I'd recommend going over it and fixing if something doesn't look right |
| 17:45.34 | Grum | Recluse/bigzero: you might want to consider using Web::Scraper to get the data |
| 17:45.49 | Grum | and some regexes+eval to turn it into something perl-like-structured |
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| 17:46.47 | bigzero | Grum, well, that's kinda what i did. I bet there is an easier, pre-written lib sort of way |
| 17:46.55 | nevcairiel | so kagaro, how usable is gathermate now? |
| 17:47.04 | Recluse | Grum: well, i've got some page scraping php classes laying around, would just need to study their page structure a little to tweak it for that purpose :p just didn't want to go to the trouble if it wasn't necessary |
| 17:47.08 | Grum | nah they havent made one yet i think :P |
| 17:47.29 | kagaro | nevcairiel: adding the config stuff to it now , otherwise its usable if you dont mind every node being up |
| 17:47.56 | Grum | but there is prolly some Inline::Javascript available that can do a javascript->perl conversion for the hashes used :) |
| 17:48.04 | nevcairiel | GatherMateData will do its job fine i suppose? :) |
| 17:48.46 | bigzero | Grum, that would probably make it a lot easier to extract the data |
| 17:49.01 | Grum | yeah |
| 17:49.02 | nevcairiel | so Xinhuan, when do i get routes ? :D |
| 17:49.18 | Grum | when its finished |
| 17:49.21 | Kivin | My datamining app hand crafts Lua tables from the xml off armory. It's annoying and time consuming, but it works |
| 17:51.10 | kagaro | Ammo found some form of memory leak in the minimap code, it does eventually cleanup at gc, but build up quick till then |
| 17:51.38 | kagaro | im redoing the minimap icon code today to fix that up |
| 17:52.02 | nevcairiel | sounds good |
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| 17:52.31 | kagaro | and yeah the gathermatedata loads up the map |
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| 17:53.56 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can get rid of Tourist now |
| 17:54.03 | Grum | bigzero: http://search.cpan.org/author/CLAESJAC/JavaScript-1.04/lib/JavaScript.pm |
| 17:54.20 | nevcairiel | I try to eleminate one lib at a time, but i cant really get anywhere .( |
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| 17:54.33 | Grum | why get rid of libs? |
| 17:54.35 | exor674 | Grum: I can't get that to work for me :( |
| 17:55.19 | Grum | exor674: i havent tried tbh |
| 17:55.37 | nevcairiel | Grum: some are useless or used for one small function which could be replicated by 10 lines of code. And some were upgraded to -3.0 libstub versions and i try to upgrade stuff to that when i can .. but when it comes to inter-lib-dependancys, the fun ends :P |
| 17:56.14 | Grum | :) |
| 17:56.33 | Grum | exor674: righty, wth is SpiderMonkey .. oh well :P |
| 17:56.47 | exor674 | SpiderMonkey == Mozilla's JS Lib :P |
| 17:58.02 | CIA-4 | 03damjau * r58560 10Whats/Whats.lua: |
| 17:58.02 | CIA-4 | Whats : |
| 17:58.02 | CIA-4 | - fix item button color bug |
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| 18:02.07 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r58561 10HotCandy/ (. HotCandy.toc embeds.xml): HotCandy: .toc and embeds update |
| 18:02.24 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58562 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Display.lua GatherMate.lua): first pass at filtering DRYCODE |
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| 18:06.05 | Stanzilla | no SharedMedia-2.0 for HotCandy? :P |
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| 18:07.31 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58563 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Display.lua GatherMate.lua): more filtering stuff |
| 18:09.55 | nevcairiel | SharedMedia-2.0 is crap |
| 18:10.13 | Stanzilla | hm why? |
| 18:10.25 | nevcairiel | i'll wait for stable CallbackHandler and SharedMedia-2.1 or -3.0 or what we call it |
| 18:10.29 | Lukian | resource usage? :[ |
| 18:10.33 | Stanzilla | hehe k |
| 18:10.54 | nevcairiel | SM-2.0 was a quick hack to get certain mods of a certain dev working *shrug |
| 18:11.05 | nevcairiel | in branches is a complete rewrite somewhere |
| 18:11.13 | nevcairiel | that waits for CallbackHandler going stable |
| 18:11.28 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58564 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: possible stall state in timer callback |
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| 18:12.01 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: sirow branch or elkano branch? |
| 18:12.08 | nevcairiel | elkano |
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| 18:15.32 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 18:16.24 | Stanzilla | I can't find the remaining issues for CallbackHandler on jira |
| 18:16.42 | nevcairiel | there are none |
| 18:16.55 | nevcairiel | but currently its tied to Ace3 releases :P |
| 18:17.43 | Elkano | well, I shoud finish it to a full project though ^^' |
| 18:19.50 | Chosi | how do i enable party frames only in raids |
| 18:19.54 | Chosi | and disable the raidframes |
| 18:19.58 | Chosi | using pitbull |
| 18:20.28 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: go go finish ace3 then :P |
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| 18:24.30 | Chosi | ckknight? |
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| 18:32.23 | Chosi | nobody? :( |
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| 18:33.11 | Twist- | Chosi: it's an option in /rock somewhere |
| 18:33.23 | Twist- | sorry.. I was busy oogling the new macbook |
| 18:33.32 | Chosi | oh...somewhere. |
| 18:33.34 | genetik- | you can disable the raid frames just by disabling the module |
| 18:33.40 | Chosi | yeah i was looking for that already |
| 18:33.40 | Amadeo | I want a new MacBook |
| 18:33.43 | Chosi | genetik-: i did |
| 18:33.49 | Stanzilla | it's too expensive |
| 18:33.49 | genetik- | Amadeo: i'd be afraid of snapping it in half |
| 18:33.50 | Chosi | but the groups disappeared too |
| 18:33.51 | Chosi | :\ |
| 18:34.02 | Twist- | oh, I misread |
| 18:34.03 | Amadeo | genetik-: I'll take that risk, buy me one! |
| 18:34.06 | genetik- | haha |
| 18:34.11 | genetik- | actually |
| 18:34.20 | genetik- | i'd be afraid of my cat walking on it while i'm at work and snapping it in half |
| 18:34.26 | Twist- | I don't know that you *do* enable party frames in raids only without manually turning the party display on at raid time |
| 18:34.47 | Twist- | that seems an unusual thing to want to do.. it may not have occured to the developer |
| 18:35.07 | Kivin | you can set the raid frames to only show party X |
| 18:35.24 | Chosi | Twist-: propably |
| 18:35.31 | Chosi | Kivin: orly? |
| 18:35.32 | Chosi | how? |
| 18:35.37 | Kivin | raid > other |
| 18:36.33 | Chosi | great stuff |
| 18:36.36 | Chosi | thank you very much dude |
| 18:40.35 | Kivin | np |
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| 18:42.02 | Fin | Recluse: you could nick the data from another addon |
| 18:42.07 | Fin | or at least use that as a base |
| 18:42.21 | Fin | like MobMap |
| 18:43.21 | Recluse | mobmap? o.O - not sure if that would have the data in it... |
| 18:44.16 | kagaro | damn $1k for a SSD drive in the new mac book |
| 18:44.24 | Stanzilla | http://www.apple.com/macbookair/ for better pics |
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| 18:45.33 | Recluse | Fin: closest thing i found was babble, but it's far from indepth enough for my purpose |
| 18:46.07 | Recluse | looked into ones like manufac, and such, but didn't see anything useful from skimming |
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| 18:47.15 | Kivin | oh my god, skettis dailies right after server restart = bad |
| 18:48.15 | stavmar | you guys see that new mac book air? SO thin and very slick. |
| 18:48.32 | kagaro | too pricy |
| 18:48.52 | stavmar | everything from apple is too pricy |
| 18:49.07 | stavmar | but you get what you pay for, higher quality parts and better product for a price |
| 18:49.11 | kagaro | mac pro isnt, when you compare to others for dual quad cores |
| 18:49.34 | stavmar | do you use a mac pro kagaro ? |
| 18:49.51 | kagaro | got one on order |
| 18:49.59 | stavmar | what is it replacing? |
| 18:50.23 | kagaro | powermac dual 2.5Ghz |
| 18:50.26 | Zariel | Give eeepc |
| 18:50.26 | kadrahil | i use a macbook pro |
| 18:50.52 | kagaro | Ive got a macbook for work |
| 18:51.06 | stavmar | how does wow play on teh macbook pro, i have heard complaints and people using windows to play it ont eh macbook pros... |
| 18:51.25 | kadrahil | the software place i'm trying to get a programming job at is a big microsoft shop |
| 18:51.31 | kadrahil | something like a 5 or 6 year gold partner |
| 18:51.37 | kadrahil | it'll be a change for me :/ |
| 18:51.47 | kagaro | vmware fusion is your friend |
| 18:52.17 | kadrahil | buy me a license then! |
| 18:52.27 | kagaro | its $59 thats cheap |
| 18:52.41 | kagaro | less than what I spent on dinner last week |
| 18:52.59 | kadrahil | eh |
| 18:53.09 | kadrahil | i guess, i just can't justify it right now |
| 18:53.49 | kadrahil | it'd be amusing if they shipped the macbook air in that manila envelope |
| 18:54.04 | kagaro | on a normal macbook (non pro) wow is sluggish at 6 fps, the video card blows |
| 18:54.12 | kadrahil | i bet |
| 18:54.13 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
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| 18:56.16 | xyu | kagaro: you eat too much |
| 18:56.40 | kagaro | brazilian steak house .. all you can eat steak on a sword .. how can you go wrong |
| 18:56.45 | xyu | or you bought a small popcorn at the movies |
| 18:56.54 | NivFreak | I love brazilian steak houses |
| 18:56.54 | kadrahil | haha |
| 18:56.59 | kagaro | was fixed pricing + a beer |
| 18:57.11 | xyu | hmm i've never had brazilian steak |
| 18:57.21 | xyu | or ate at their steakhouse rather. |
| 18:57.25 | xyu | i wonder if we have one around here |
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| 18:58.05 | kadrahil | wow, new touchpad gestures |
| 18:58.15 | kadrahil | is that a leopard feature? |
| 18:58.48 | NivFreak | stavmar: I raid on my 17" MBP |
| 18:58.53 | NivFreak | it's alright |
| 18:59.02 | kadrahil | <- raids on a 15" MBP |
| 18:59.06 | stavmar | on leopard or XP/Vista |
| 18:59.13 | NivFreak | leopard |
| 18:59.21 | stavmar | what is your FPS? |
| 18:59.26 | kagaro | the pro has a much better vieo card than the non pro |
| 18:59.29 | NivFreak | ZA sucks |
| 18:59.32 | NivFreak | kara is like 25-30 |
| 18:59.36 | NivFreak | ZA I drop to 15 or so |
| 18:59.45 | kadrahil | same for me |
| 18:59.45 | NivFreak | but I have the older MBP |
| 18:59.48 | NivFreak | before the nvidia cards |
| 18:59.50 | kadrahil | except i haven't been to ZA |
| 18:59.58 | NivFreak | gruul is fine, TK is fine |
| 18:59.59 | kadrahil | NivFreak: i love you |
| 19:00.06 | NivFreak | kadrahil: eh? |
| 19:00.07 | kadrahil | in the least homosexual way possible |
| 19:00.08 | NivFreak | heh |
| 19:00.12 | kadrahil | NivFreak: fellow macbook user |
| 19:00.16 | NivFreak | haha |
| 19:00.27 | NivFreak | wow on the laptop is great |
| 19:00.32 | kadrahil | the keyboard rules |
| 19:00.36 | NivFreak | I can sit in my recliner and play while my wife and kid play/watch tv |
| 19:00.44 | NivFreak | way less wife aggro |
| 19:00.47 | NivFreak | than me hiding in my office |
| 19:00.53 | kadrahil | heh |
| 19:01.15 | kadrahil | BAH my server isn't back online yet |
| 19:01.27 | kadrahil | bunch of slackers :P |
| 19:01.37 | sdouble | your's is down for the rest of the week |
| 19:01.44 | kadrahil | :() |
| 19:01.47 | sdouble | your's? |
| 19:01.48 | kadrahil | uh.. :( |
| 19:01.55 | kadrahil | i was wondering where that came from too |
| 19:01.56 | kadrahil | heh |
| 19:02.06 | NivFreak | so did they upgrade our BG clusters for 2.4? |
| 19:02.07 | NivFreak | heh |
| 19:02.22 | kadrahil | did they do away with the GCD crap yet? |
| 19:03.24 | sdouble | I don't know, but they have had the getall on QueryAuctionItems since 2.3.2 and I like. |
| 19:03.40 | Fin | Recluse: www.mobmap.de |
| 19:03.51 | sdouble | I'm not doing anything with it, but it's pretty quick. |
| 19:05.08 | sdouble | oh nice, my realm is up |
| 19:05.17 | kadrahil | stormreaver is still down |
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| 19:09.17 | Recluse | Fin: hmm, they do have a 'recipe' file there with 'reagentdata', but looks encoded - will have to take a look into the implementation there, and whether it contains trainer recipes as well. quite interesting tho |
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| 19:20.09 | xyu | is there any command to turn off ambient sounds? |
| 19:20.19 | xyu | if i do it through the menu, my WoW hardlocks |
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| 19:23.12 | ramoz | Xinhuan: ping? |
| 19:23.23 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 19:23.24 | charon | xyu: open WTF/Config.wtf with an editor, look for SET AmbienceVolume, change the value to 0 |
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| 19:23.45 | ramoz | Xinhuan: nevermind |
| 19:23.46 | charon | xyu: oh there's even a SET EnableAmbience "0" |
| 19:24.21 | ramoz | Xinhuan: did you guys get more than one arrow from MotherArrows? |
| 19:24.40 | Xinhuan | sometimes more than 1 appears, but you just follow the first one and ignore the rest |
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| 19:25.02 | Xinhuan | and it works :D |
| 19:25.28 | ramoz | doesnt work for us |
| 19:25.36 | ramoz | or well |
| 19:25.40 | ramoz | people are confused |
| 19:25.45 | Xinhuan | that's because the "down arrow" means to rnu backwards |
| 19:25.49 | Xinhuan | now forwards |
| 19:25.50 | Xinhuan | not* |
| 19:26.42 | Xinhuan | the 3 arrows are really more like "northwest, northeast and south" |
| 19:26.54 | Xinhuan | so onscreen they look like "left, right, down" |
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| 19:27.23 | ramoz | wish it would move like TomTom |
| 19:27.33 | Xinhuan | that would be too easy wouldn't it :D |
| 19:28.04 | cladhaire | well it makes sense |
| 19:28.12 | cladhaire | tomtom will have that arrow within the next week or so |
| 19:28.15 | cladhaire | and it'll work the same way |
| 19:28.20 | cladhaire | its more intuitive to some people |
| 19:28.29 | cladhaire | especially those who are crazy-taxi-crack-heads |
| 19:28.41 | Xinhuan | yeah, but i think the author just didn't want to bother with getting the :GetFacing() |
| 19:28.48 | Xinhuan | of the minimapring or playerarrow |
| 19:28.52 | Xinhuan | depending on your map |
| 19:28.57 | cladhaire | I'm confused now |
| 19:29.11 | cladhaire | oh, you're talking about MotherArrows |
| 19:29.15 | cladhaire | never seen that, link? |
| 19:30.01 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7487-MotherArrows.html |
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| 19:30.45 | Xinhuan | the arrow is just a "indicator" it doesn't rotate as you rotate yourself |
| 19:30.53 | cladhaire | oh gotcha :P |
| 19:30.55 | Xinhuan | unlike Cartographer_Waypoints |
| 19:31.07 | cladhaire | yeah they took the easy way out :P |
| 19:34.25 | nevcairiel | i've always wondered if its even possible to rotate the arrow if you move the camera, but not the character |
| 19:34.52 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.02 | Xinhuan | you would probably have to retrieve the CVAR that represented your viewing direction |
| 19:35.14 | ramoz | omg down after 4 tries |
| 19:35.16 | Xinhuan | well mother arrows worked for us, so heh |
| 19:35.25 | NeoTron | PingDirection is the best addon for showing direction |
| 19:35.59 | Chosi | is there any repair expense plugin for fubar? :> |
| 19:36.04 | Chosi | moneyfu doesn't do it |
| 19:36.09 | NeoTron | shahraz is easy though, really |
| 19:36.14 | Xinhuan | try AuditorFu |
| 19:36.20 | NeoTron | only boss we've ever one-shotted on our first try |
| 19:37.13 | CIA-4 | 03isler * r58565 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 19:37.13 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:37.13 | CIA-4 | - zhCN update |
| 19:37.20 | kadrahil | NeoTron: the top guild on our server one shot her too |
| 19:37.21 | Zariel | If i were to block port 53 inbound on my router would it disable all DNS access or just hosting of a dns server? |
| 19:37.34 | Grum | shahraz is to random imho |
| 19:37.40 | Chosi | Xinhuan: svn only?` |
| 19:37.48 | Chosi | can't find it in the normal repository |
| 19:37.53 | Xinhuan | google |
| 19:37.56 | [dRaCo] | Zariel: inbound should only affect a server |
| 19:38.14 | Zariel | keep getting DNS cache poising pop up on ESS thats all |
| 19:38.16 | Xinhuan | i'm sure you'll find it, don't be lazy |
| 19:38.30 | Grum | ESS? |
| 19:38.52 | Zariel | eset smart security |
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| 19:50.52 | kadrahil | dangit why is stormreaver still down |
| 19:51.05 | kadrahil | QQ |
| 19:52.03 | Kivin | D: |
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| 19:55.24 | Recluse | Fin: turns out that is about 95% what i wanted to do (for their recipe module) - i'll haveta strip down their addon for my installation to remove the fluff and such. thanks tho |
| 19:56.27 | bigzero | is there no optical drive on MacBook Air? |
| 19:57.43 | kenlyric | bigzero: nope |
| 19:57.56 | bigzero | :-/ |
| 19:57.57 | Recluse | what's it use then? |
| 19:57.57 | kenlyric | ultraportables rarely do. |
| 19:58.15 | skout | Zariel: DNS cache poison attacks are mostly browser based exploits... meaning a mal site is trying to poison your browsers cache... |
| 19:58.16 | kenlyric | you connect an external optical drive, just like all thin notebooks? |
| 19:58.17 | Recluse | mmc/wan? |
| 19:58.47 | Recluse | ah, external, i'm not thinking clearly |
| 19:59.01 | kenlyric | it doesn't have an ethernet port. |
| 20:03.40 | Xinhuan | lua> if nil and nil or 1 and 1 then print("a") end |
| 20:03.40 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a |
| 20:03.48 | Xinhuan | lua> if 1 and nil or 1 and nil then print("a") end |
| 20:03.48 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 20:03.59 | Xinhuan | hmm |
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| 20:06.27 | Kivin | lua> if 1 and nil or 1 and nil or true then print("a") end |
| 20:06.28 | lua_bot | Kivin: a |
| 20:08.39 | kergoth | a and b or c == (a and b) or c |
| 20:09.10 | Xinhuan | so which has higher priotity, AND or OR |
| 20:09.11 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 20:09.16 | Kivin | it's left to right |
| 20:09.17 | bigzero | and i thought |
| 20:09.29 | Kivin | if (1 and nil) or (1 and nil) then print("a") end |
| 20:09.37 | bigzero | yeah, so and |
| 20:09.52 | Xinhuan | lua> if 1 and 1 or nil and nil then print("a") end |
| 20:09.52 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a |
| 20:10.04 | Kivin | the first bracketed section fails so the 'or' gets crossed. the second bracketed section fails, so the if statment fails |
| 20:10.28 | Xinhuan | i thought AND has higher precedence? |
| 20:10.35 | Kivin | i dunno, i read it left to right |
| 20:10.59 | Kivin | lua> if (1 and nil) or (1 and nil) or true then print("a") end |
| 20:10.59 | lua_bot | Kivin: a |
| 20:11.10 | Kivin | if (fail) or (fail) or (pass) |
| 20:11.28 | Xinhuan | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html |
| 20:11.30 | Xinhuan | section 2.5.5 |
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| 20:12.34 | Kivin | sigh, 97g short of getting my epic mount |
| 20:12.43 | cladhaire | do 10 dailies :P |
| 20:12.53 | Kivin | already did my dailes, and sharded my gear, to pay for the training |
| 20:13.01 | cladhaire | sharded how much gear? |
| 20:13.10 | Kivin | about a dozen items |
| 20:13.20 | Kivin | off-spec crap that's been sitting in my bank for going on two months |
| 20:13.22 | cladhaire | like, what you were wearing? |
| 20:13.23 | cladhaire | oh |
| 20:13.23 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:13.28 | Kivin | didn't shard myself naked |
| 20:13.56 | Kivin | oh wait |
| 20:13.58 | Amadeo | For some reason I can't get to gmail.com |
| 20:14.06 | Kivin | i only did ogrila on one of my two 70s |
| 20:14.08 | Xinhuan | then go skin some mobs |
| 20:14.19 | Kivin | that's another 50g |
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| 20:14.53 | cladhaire | borrow the rest imo |
| 20:14.55 | cladhaire | you can pay it back tomorrow |
| 20:15.01 | Kivin | don't really have anyone to borrow it from |
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| 20:15.40 | Kivin | I mostly keep to myself and I recently had a falling out with some of those close to me |
| 20:16.50 | Kivin | time to see if skettis is still swamped with alliance |
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| 20:19.56 | Zariel | can you assign values to ..., like ... = SomeFunctionWithLotsOfArgs() |
| 20:20.10 | cladhaire | pass, yes |
| 20:20.14 | cladhaire | assign.. doesn't make sense. |
| 20:20.16 | cladhaire | oh |
| 20:20.18 | cladhaire | no |
| 20:20.21 | cladhaire | give them names |
| 20:20.28 | cladhaire | or select the specific one you need |
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| 20:20.38 | Zariel | I want them all but dont know how many there may be |
| 20:21.09 | cladhaire | is this an API function? |
| 20:21.12 | Kivin | only safe way i can think of is to walk over the returns with a for loop |
| 20:21.18 | cladhaire | Kivin: you can't. |
| 20:21.31 | cladhaire | your options are: put them in a new table |
| 20:21.35 | cladhaire | or pass them to another function |
| 20:21.39 | Kivin | for i = 1, MAX_INDICES do v = select(i, Function()) end |
| 20:21.50 | Kivin | yeah, passing them would make more sense |
| 20:21.51 | cladhaire | Kivin: you can't do that |
| 20:21.55 | Kivin | why not? |
| 20:21.57 | cladhaire | you don't know MAX_INDICES |
| 20:22.03 | cladhaire | and second, that calls the API function MAX_INDICES times |
| 20:22.17 | cladhaire | i.e. {SomeFunctionWithLotsOfArgs()} or doSomething(SomeFunctionWithLotsOfArgs()) |
| 20:22.46 | Kivin | certainly passing them into a function would be best |
| 20:23.05 | cladhaire | not necessarily.. if you need to access more than one at a time, then table is the easiest |
| 20:23.09 | cladhaire | and the most straightforward |
| 20:23.32 | Zariel | so just do { SomeFunc() } |
| 20:23.32 | cladhaire | if you need to walk em, function is easiest |
| 20:23.39 | cladhaire | Zariel: yes, |
| 20:23.42 | Kivin | { ... } seems really sloppy to me |
| 20:23.53 | Kivin | though i well imagine it works |
| 20:23.59 | cladhaire | the only way it doesn't work |
| 20:24.03 | cladhaire | is you'll need to use table.maxn() |
| 20:24.07 | cladhaire | instead of #tbl |
| 20:24.14 | cladhaire | if the function can possibly return nil values |
| 20:24.21 | cladhaire | Kivin: its not universal, both methods have their use |
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| 20:30.52 | Zariel | Hm, i have 410 addons in my dir, nice |
| 20:31.21 | Cheads | I hope you use 'disembedded' ace addons =) |
| 20:32.02 | Kivin | i got to the point where i had more external folders than i did addons, had to disembed the whole deal |
| 20:33.04 | Zariel | Damn i love vim |
| 20:33.51 | Kivin | 119/200G *sigh* |
| 20:34.15 | kergoth | Zariel: damn |
| 20:34.21 | kergoth | i'm up to 399, standalones |
| 20:34.29 | Zariel | Snap |
| 20:34.35 | Zariel | Im only using 31 on this char tho |
| 20:35.06 | Zariel | could disembed ace3 but no need |
| 20:35.22 | Recluse | i use about 120 various ones per character/class out of a pool of 275 or so |
| 20:35.50 | kergoth | at the rate gathermate is going i'll be able to ditch carto soon, which will bring me back down to 362 |
| 20:35.54 | kergoth | which is a little better |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-4 | 03peragor * r58566 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-4 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-4 | - Needs koKR and zhTW translation for added auras |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-4 | - Added Burning Crusade anti-healing debuffs |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-4 | - Added Cyclone as a healing prevention debuff |
| 20:36.32 | CIA-4 | - Added invulnerability checks (pally bubble, mage iceblock) |
| 20:36.34 | CIA-4 | - Modified incoming heals formula |
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| 20:37.18 | Zariel | yeah i need a carto replacment |
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| 20:38.07 | Hjalte | Hmm, we use 1 warlock tank on Kael, but I get conflagrate sometimes and he goes for the healers. We try to have a warrior go in and get the conflagrate, but it doesnt always work. Any suggestions? |
| 20:40.10 | mykx | yeah stop standing within 30 yards of the mob |
| 20:40.20 | mykx | you cannot get conflagged if you arent in range of it |
| 20:41.44 | kergoth | Zariel: methinks i'll go with mapster+gathermate/gathermatedata+atlas/atlasloot or something. /shrug |
| 20:41.44 | Zariel | Why doesnt EnableAddOn() enable for that char only |
| 20:42.10 | Hjalte | mykx, do you know what the range of the firebolt is then? |
| 20:42.30 | Zariel | Dont think ill use atlas/loot tbh just use Ludwig for item needs. Dont know if i even need a data tracking map, just be able to move it around and have it it a good size |
| 20:42.48 | Zariel | Think i might just rustle up a basic mod to move the map and scale t |
| 20:42.48 | Zariel | it |
| 20:43.39 | mykx | the firebolt no idea the conflag is like 30 yards |
| 20:43.58 | mykx | it's not some random bug its people being dumb getting conflagged :) |
| 20:44.00 | kergoth | Zariel: thats what mapster does, iirc. just make it movable and shirnk it a little, and add coordinates |
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| 20:45.24 | Xinhuan | wait till i port _Routes to gathermate hehe |
| 20:45.51 | kergoth | looking forward to it :) |
| 20:45.58 | Kivin | gathermate = gatherer clone? |
| 20:46.19 | CIA-4 | 03isler * r58567 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 20:46.19 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:46.19 | CIA-4 | - zhCN & zhTW update |
| 20:50.49 | Polarina | xyu: You can enable and disavle the ambient sounds from the in-game option menu. |
| 20:56.56 | xyu | Polarina: i know but it locks me up qq for some reason |
| 20:57.03 | xyu | once i hit the "okay" button, it just stops |
| 20:57.14 | Pkekyo| | 1.15% spellcrit vs 5 spelldmg? (mage) |
| 20:57.29 | Hjalte | I have a very simple macro /use Staff of Disintegration /cast Drain Life - Why won't it work? |
| 20:57.37 | xyu | a whole percent? would probably be better. |
| 20:57.48 | xyu | so i'd say crit |
| 20:57.49 | Kivin | I believe changing weapons causes GCD |
| 20:57.55 | xyu | it does |
| 20:57.57 | Kivin | oh, /use |
| 20:58.02 | Kivin | that must GCD too |
| 20:58.12 | NeoTron | it doesn't |
| 20:58.21 | NeoTron | and how exactly does it not work? |
| 20:58.38 | NeoTron | better yet, why drain life? :P |
| 20:59.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah i only have shadowbolt and searing pain macroed with the staff |
| 20:59.16 | NeoTron | I have deathcoil and SB |
| 20:59.25 | Arrowmaster | deathcoil? |
| 20:59.27 | NeoTron | never use searing pain in phase 3 (well I do throw mayne 2-3 out) |
| 20:59.28 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 20:59.50 | NeoTron | death coil macro = /target caper, /use staff, /cast deathcoil |
| 20:59.52 | NeoTron | snap aggro |
| 21:00.05 | NeoTron | I've had her run out of range due to healing aggro which pretty much is a wipe |
| 21:00.25 | NeoTron | spam said macro, then cast shadowburn, then a few SP and then SB spam |
| 21:00.26 | Hjalte | If I want to use the use-effect on Staff of Disintegration, is it then also /use? |
| 21:00.34 | NeoTron | yes |
| 21:01.02 | genetik- | do you need a /stopcasting after the /use? |
| 21:01.14 | Twist- | no |
| 21:01.16 | Arrowmaster | i hate how that bitch wont stand still while im tanking her in phase1 |
| 21:01.43 | NeoTron | it's annoying.. but you can move her if no one else is in conflag range and you move while she's casting |
| 21:01.52 | NeoTron | if you're still in range she won't, typically, move |
| 21:02.09 | NeoTron | we MD to a pally who hides out of LoS so she runs down to where we want he rpretty much |
| 21:02.20 | Zariel | Kergoth got a link to Mapster, can find it |
| 21:02.38 | durcyn | Zariel: it's in svn branches |
| 21:02.46 | Zariel | cheers |
| 21:03.04 | Arrowmaster | i was having computer issues lastnight and another lock tanked her instead after i crashed a few time, he died and i picked her up in phase3 wearing 0 FR |
| 21:03.18 | Arrowmaster | managed to tank her just outside of conflag range |
| 21:03.42 | genetik- | no one soaking the conflags? |
| 21:03.48 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 21:03.59 | genetik- | oh, right.. phase 3 |
| 21:04.24 | Arrowmaster | i normally stand really close to her when im tanking in phase3 so i eat all the conflags |
| 21:04.53 | genetik- | you wear some FR typically? |
| 21:04.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:06.14 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I don't use FR when tanking her |
| 21:06.42 | NeoTron | having no conflag tank has the drawback of allowing random people that run too close to get it |
| 21:06.55 | NeoTron | we usually put one of my healers in conflag range |
| 21:07.18 | Zariel | I really wish windows had a fully working terminal with shell =/ |
| 21:08.29 | RLD_osx | get unix for windows |
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| 21:08.49 | RLD_osx | its somewhere on the MS site |
| 21:09.58 | genetik- | NeoTron: you might be able to verify this.. we're working on kael right now and our plan for our next night on him is to have 1 healer and 1 warlock on capernian in phase 3. thinking being that the staff buff will keep the warlock stable and the mace buff will reduce the damage taken by the lock |
| 21:10.06 | genetik- | does that work? |
| 21:10.40 | Xinhuan | uh isn't that what every guild does? |
| 21:10.59 | durcyn | that's all you need |
| 21:11.02 | genetik- | ok |
| 21:11.07 | durcyn | and it's the two easiest jobs in the raid |
| 21:11.12 | Xinhuan | or did you really try to tough it out without staff buff or mace buff lol?? |
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| 21:11.23 | genetik- | that's how i thought it would work |
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| 21:11.37 | genetik- | Xinhuan: was more concerned about healing.. i'm not really sure how much damage the warlock would be taking |
| 21:11.52 | Xinhuan | very little, we usually just assign half a druid |
| 21:11.53 | Arrowmaster | when your learning have the warlock wear some FR |
| 21:11.57 | Xinhuan | to the lock |
| 21:11.57 | genetik- | ok |
| 21:12.00 | Arrowmaster | makes it perty easy |
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| 21:12.36 | durcyn | 150 FR or so makes it a joke |
| 21:12.40 | Arrowmaster | when i wear my full FR, a single healer during phase3 can keep me and the tank for the big dude that fears up |
| 21:13.35 | genetik- | awesome.. i'd considered trying that |
| 21:13.42 | genetik- | thanks for the advice |
| 21:13.51 | Arrowmaster | the possitioning to do that really sucks though |
| 21:14.06 | genetik- | yeah, i'd imagine it would |
| 21:14.17 | Arrowmaster | more an emergancy thing |
| 21:14.22 | genetik- | sanguinar tank usually move his over closer? |
| 21:14.38 | Arrowmaster | no i move cap around |
| 21:14.41 | genetik- | k |
| 21:14.47 | Arrowmaster | and the healer ends up by the doorway |
| 21:14.54 | Xinhuan | don't tank the fear guy near the doorway btw |
| 21:14.54 | Arrowmaster | which can suck if he gets feared |
| 21:14.58 | Xinhuan | his fear can fear you right thru |
| 21:15.27 | genetik- | if the tank sucks at dancing and using the shield :P |
| 21:15.47 | Arrowmaster | we always clear from astromancer side and tank sang on east side of the room |
| 21:15.51 | Xinhuan | i meant other raid members |
| 21:15.53 | Xinhuan | can get feared thru |
| 21:15.54 | genetik- | ah |
| 21:15.57 | genetik- | yeah |
| 21:15.58 | Xinhuan | and it sucks if that happens |
| 21:16.17 | Zariel | GatherMate\Display.lua:63 attempt to index field "db" nil val |
| 21:16.18 | Arrowmaster | be careful, weve pulled the pat we didnt clear through the other door before |
| 21:16.23 | Zariel | 53* |
| 21:16.26 | Xinhuan | a mage can blink thru it |
| 21:16.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah mage blink to try and reset it |
| 21:16.43 | Xinhuan | and cause kaethas to follow thru and reset the boss |
| 21:16.44 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 21:16.49 | Arrowmaster | although lastnight the mobs were chasing |
| 21:18.28 | Xinhuan | yeah that part of the config doesn't work yet zariel, that was just committed about a few hours ago |
| 21:18.46 | Xinhuan | the db doesn't exist until OnInitialize() |
| 21:18.59 | genetik- | i wish we didn't still have to get two more people their vashj vials.. all i want to do right now is work on kael'thas |
| 21:20.14 | Zariel | Xinhuan, does the rest of it work? |
| 21:20.23 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:20.33 | Xinhuan | just comment out the offending line |
| 21:20.38 | bigzero | does AceConsole require AceEvent? |
| 21:20.40 | Xinhuan | and don't try to access any config |
| 21:20.56 | Xinhuan | because the latest changes were to add a gui config and that was 100% drycoded |
| 21:21.41 | Zariel | o.0 does any part of it add csat spell notification to chatframe? |
| 21:23.04 | Zariel | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, never seen that before |
| 21:23.17 | Zariel | is that the new combat log? |
| 21:23.21 | Xinhuan | no |
| 21:23.36 | Xinhuan | its an event that is fired when you successfully send a spellcast to the server |
| 21:24.00 | Zariel | For some reason its being printed to ChatFrame1. |
| 21:24.34 | Xinhuan | that sounds right |
| 21:24.47 | Xinhuan | its "usable" in the sense that it is usable |
| 21:24.56 | Xinhuan | all the debug messages are still in there |
| 21:25.14 | bigzero | what mod are we talking about? |
| 21:25.21 | NivFreak | man |
| 21:25.21 | Xinhuan | you can edit gathermate.lua and comment out line 200 |
| 21:25.23 | Xinhuan | if you care |
| 21:25.30 | NivFreak | I wish WWS would let you assign PoM/ES to healers |
| 21:26.09 | Zariel | oh right i was wondering if it were some other mod Xinhuan |
| 21:26.39 | Xinhuan | the general routine is to watch for spellcast |
| 21:26.56 | Xinhuan | if it is say "Herb Gathering", then we check the item under your cursor (which is on the herb) |
| 21:27.00 | Xinhuan | and read the tooltip |
| 21:28.39 | Zariel | Looks good, just no nodes showing up from data, dont know if its intentional |
| 21:28.47 | bigzero | Xinhuan, but you don't have to keep cursor over the herb if you're gathering it |
| 21:29.01 | Xinhuan | it only checks on the _SENT event |
| 21:29.06 | Xinhuan | which is triggered by the right-click |
| 21:29.17 | Xinhuan | on the herb |
| 21:29.24 | bigzero | not if you have click to move and click it from farther away |
| 21:29.35 | bigzero | then it walks to the thing and casts |
| 21:29.48 | Xinhuan | then it will listen for the cursor change event |
| 21:29.59 | Xinhuan | and if the cursor changes, it'll try to read whatever tooltip |
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| 21:30.17 | Xinhuan | if nothing is detected when spell is completed, then nothing gets recorded |
| 21:30.22 | Xinhuan | and it'll idle until next spellcast |
| 21:30.36 | Xinhuan | that's just a limitation of the game, can't do anything about it |
| 21:30.46 | bigzero | hrm.... i think i can use that cursor change idea for one of my mods |
| 21:31.06 | Zariel | Why does WOW use yards :< god damn stupid units |
| 21:31.20 | bigzero | blizz is in US? |
| 21:31.27 | Zariel | and i wish britain would wake up and use metric |
| 21:31.42 | bigzero | britain uses english? |
| 21:31.46 | Xinhuan | "yards" is just the term used |
| 21:31.46 | bigzero | i thought they switched |
| 21:31.50 | Xinhuan | its not really yards |
| 21:31.58 | bigzero | Xinhuan, lol... of course |
| 21:32.06 | Xinhuan | if you looked in the translations, its "meters" in chinese :D |
| 21:32.10 | bigzero | i mean, how could you possibly measure |
| 21:32.11 | Xinhuan | or maybe "miles" |
| 21:32.18 | Xinhuan | or "feet" |
| 21:33.20 | Zariel | Meters and KM :) |
| 21:35.51 | Zariel | Xinhuan, how do you show the nodes on the map from data? or does it not wor |
| 21:35.53 | Zariel | work/ |
| 21:36.21 | Xinhuan | its supposed to |
| 21:36.45 | Xinhuan | well, unless you have no data |
| 21:36.48 | Xinhuan | go herb something |
| 21:37.03 | Xinhuan | or install GatherMateData - a wowhead mined database |
| 21:37.40 | Zariel | i have it |
| 21:38.09 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: "You are over-complicating the issue regarding flame flickering." |
| 21:38.12 | Shadowed | flame flickering eh? |
| 21:38.16 | Xinhuan | i dont' know, maybe you should just revert to yesterday's copy of gathermate |
| 21:38.22 | Xinhuan | frame |
| 21:38.24 | Xinhuan | oh well |
| 21:41.18 | Zariel | Danke |
| 21:41.49 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58568 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua WoWEquipData.lua): WoWEquip: - Implement school spell crit/hit calcs |
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| 21:43.07 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58569 10/branches/GatherMate/ (6 files in 2 dirs): configuration system now works |
| 21:43.25 | Xinhuan | haha maybe you can unrevert now :D |
| 21:43.52 | nevcairiel | yeah kagaro had some drycoding issues in that |
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| 21:44.30 | Xinhuan | he drycodes a lot in office |
| 21:46.06 | Vulcanus | unrevert? double negative :p |
| 21:46.41 | Bruners | is the slow casting curse afecting essence of desire? |
| 21:46.50 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:46.54 | nevcairiel | good thing to have |
| 21:47.30 | Xinhuan | can someone translate "Ranged Hit" to german? |
| 21:47.40 | Xinhuan | i.e chance to hit for ranged attacks |
| 21:47.57 | Kivin | the game doesn't differentiate hit rating from ranged hit |
| 21:48.02 | Stanzilla | Zaubertrefferwertung? |
| 21:48.04 | Arrowmaster | does too |
| 21:48.05 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 21:48.09 | Arrowmaster | the scope from MC |
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| 21:48.17 | nevcairiel | Fernkampf Trefferwertung? no idea how the exact string is |
| 21:48.19 | Xinhuan | many talents only add to ranged hit but not melee hit and vice versa |
| 21:48.27 | Stanzilla | oh ranged not cast |
| 21:48.29 | Stanzilla | humm |
| 21:48.37 | Xinhuan | ["Ranged Crit"]= "krit. Fernkampftreffer", |
| 21:48.46 | Xinhuan | what should Ranged Hit be? |
| 21:48.56 | nevcairiel | remove the krit. :P |
| 21:49.06 | Xinhuan | get Stanzilla commited that one |
| 21:49.13 | Xinhuan | hey Stanzilla commited that one |
| 21:49.17 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 21:49.23 | Stanzilla | must be wrong then! |
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| 21:56.17 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58572 10/branches/GatherMateData/GatherMateData.lua: after loading all the gathematedata, run a gc to flush out the old stuff |
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| 21:57.00 | bigzero | why force a gc? |
| 21:57.12 | Xinhuan | the GC isn't necessary kagaro, the game does a GC after VARIABLES_LOADED :) |
| 21:57.25 | kagaro | Xinhan: thanks didnt know when the first on ehit |
| 21:57.49 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58573 10/branches/GatherMateData/GatherMateData.lua: removed unneeded gc |
| 21:58.30 | bigzero | but even still, what's the point of forcing a gc. incremental gc is smart enough to do it when it needs to anyway. am i missing something? |
| 21:58.41 | nevcairiel | if you load a big bunch of data |
| 21:58.45 | nevcairiel | incremental gc is too slow |
| 21:58.58 | Kivin | my damage meter can force gcs after combat to reduce the chances that gc hits during combat |
| 21:58.59 | kagaro | the GatehrMeteData mod loads up almsot 2 megs of garbage as it imports |
| 21:59.40 | Xinhuan | check out the gathermatedata mem usage after you load in |
| 21:59.48 | Xinhuan | it should be something like 1k or less |
| 22:00.19 | kagaro | it sometimes take a few mins before it disappears |
| 22:00.44 | kagaro | but once gone its gone, just slow sometimes to sweep |
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| 22:01.53 | Xinhuan | doesn't really matter i guess |
| 22:01.53 | NeoTron | when I did a timetest it was funny yo see the hickups (frequent) when, I presume, the incremental gc ran |
| 22:02.06 | NeoTron | it's clearly visible on the FRAPS G15 FPS graph |
| 22:04.50 | sb | yay |
| 22:04.51 | sb | mother down |
| 22:04.58 | sb | after ~3h |
| 22:05.07 | Grum | grats! |
| 22:05.51 | sb | easy :) |
| 22:06.11 | NeoTron | 3 hrs easy? :P |
| 22:06.20 | NeoTron | took us 8 minutes! |
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| 22:07.07 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.31 | Grum | well you get trained in certain aspects |
| 22:07.40 | Grum | but T6 pushes it a bit further yet again |
| 22:07.40 | NeoTron | it just seems a lot easier |
| 22:07.52 | NeoTron | then again vashj and all of SSC/TK is pretty darn easy now as well |
| 22:07.58 | NeoTron | and it wasn't easy THEN |
| 22:08.16 | NivFreak | my bet would be kael/vashj really weed people out |
| 22:08.34 | NeoTron | we ... "lost" a few people there |
| 22:08.37 | Grum | Vashj is DPS and being flexible/knowing your position |
| 22:08.44 | NivFreak | of course blizzard has done several rounds of nerfs too |
| 22:08.47 | NeoTron | coordination too |
| 22:08.52 | NeoTron | sure |
| 22:08.53 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:09.01 | NeoTron | but even unmodified I'm sure we'd have a pretty easy time |
| 22:09.04 | Grum | Kael is nearly the same |
| 22:09.13 | NeoTron | less health makes heck of a big difference for phase 2/3 |
| 22:09.14 | Grum | but less focus on dps except for phase2 |
| 22:09.43 | NeoTron | ironically we lost a bunch of people - a shadow priest and a few healers - to another guild on the sever |
| 22:10.04 | NeoTron | who's just starting t6 essentially (and moving really slowly)... they weren't up to par with the rest of our guild |
| 22:10.10 | NeoTron | ironic they all went to the same guild |
| 22:11.09 | Grum | well t6 has a huge threshhold on Teron/Azgalor where the invididual fuckup counts again |
| 22:11.53 | Grum | archi pushes that even further and bloodboil is again pure coordination |
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| 22:15.28 | Polarina | T6? |
| 22:17.07 | CIA-4 | 03trasher * r58574 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 22:17.08 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 22:17.08 | CIA-4 | - update french |
| 22:21.43 | Xinhuan | An error has occured while trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.wowjutsu.com/ |
| 22:21.43 | Xinhuan | The system returned: |
| 22:21.43 | Xinhuan | (111) Connection refused |
| 22:21.47 | Kivin | woot just got my epic birdcat |
| 22:21.48 | Xinhuan | anyone getting similar? |
| 22:22.48 | Polarina | cladhaire: The addon LightHeaded doesn't contain any information for the quest One Shot. One Kill. but it have been on wowhead for number of months (If not longer). |
| 22:22.55 | bigzero | Xinhuan, yeah, can't connect |
| 22:23.26 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 22:23.28 | bigzero | what is longer than number of months? |
| 22:23.49 | Kody- | a bunch of months |
| 22:23.53 | bigzero | hehe |
| 22:25.34 | bigzero | so i'm trying to allow people to assign a different key for comparison tooltips ("shift" in default blizz ui) and I'm wondering if there's an easy way to check for which modifier key is pressed or do i have to use IsShift.. IsCtrl.. etc. |
| 22:26.13 | Xinhuan | just add your own modified bindings |
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| 22:27.48 | bigzero | you can check for left and right shift? |
| 22:28.18 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:28.38 | bigzero | how? don't see it in the api |
| 22:29.27 | Polarina | bigzero: wowwiki is very out of date when it comes to the API. |
| 22:29.32 | bigzero | :-( |
| 22:29.43 | bigzero | what do you recommend? |
| 22:30.07 | Kivin | okay, i'm going to have to make the switch to routes now that i have my 280% mount |
| 22:30.20 | Kivin | gatherer's hud kills me at +300% speed |
| 22:30.33 | Pkekyo| | what alliance faction is the equivalent to the mag'har? |
| 22:30.40 | bigzero | kurenai |
| 22:30.53 | Kivin | does _routes already have routes built in, or do i have to make them? |
| 22:30.55 | bigzero | or however you spell that |
| 22:31.02 | Xinhuan | you have to make them |
| 22:31.09 | Kivin | alright |
| 22:31.19 | Polarina | Kivin: Cartographer can calculate the shortest route between all your nodes, it can even display the results on the minimap and the map. :) |
| 22:31.26 | Kivin | would this make sense: run _routes and gatherer with the HUD up, do one full cycle around the map with routes, then shut off gatherer? |
| 22:31.40 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i thought you coded it to calculate the routes? all that talk about using subroutines for traveling salesman |
| 22:31.57 | Xinhuan | i'm saying it doesn't come with any pre-calculated routes |
| 22:32.03 | Osstia | is it sad that i can fly my mining routes while watching tv or half asleep and not miss a single node, with no addon? |
| 22:32.04 | Xinhuan | i dont want 10000 ppl to follow the same damn route i'm on |
| 22:32.10 | Kivin | lol |
| 22:32.10 | bigzero | lol |
| 22:32.18 | genetik- | send them on the wrong route |
| 22:32.20 | genetik- | heh |
| 22:32.38 | genetik- | "zig-zagging is the best path for maximum coverage" |
| 22:33.06 | bigzero | so what do I use for a list of API functions? |
| 22:33.10 | Polarina | :P |
| 22:33.38 | bigzero | Polarina, is it just IsLeftShiftDown()?? |
| 22:33.40 | Polarina | bigzero: There's a table you can lookup in game for list of all global variables. Its name is _G. |
| 22:33.47 | Polarina | bigzero: Something around that... |
| 22:33.53 | bigzero | ./cry |
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| 22:34.11 | Kivin | bigzero: you need a list of apis? |
| 22:34.23 | Kivin | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 22:34.36 | bigzero | Kivin, appearently that's no good :-( |
| 22:34.42 | bigzero | well, not up to date |
| 22:34.52 | Kivin | served me faithfully |
| 22:35.04 | bigzero | me too... until Polarina ruined it |
| 22:35.54 | sb | NeoTron: you got to mother and killed her in 1st try ever? :p |
| 22:35.54 | Kivin | Xinhuan: How do I macro adding a route... or optimize it in some way that doesn't require rockconfig |
| 22:37.18 | Xinhuan | not possible |
| 22:37.46 | Xinhuan | because we create a lot of function closures inside the config |
| 22:38.04 | Xinhuan | everytime you click "optimize" a lot of variables are used as upvalues |
| 22:38.31 | Kivin | so what is routes going to do, is it going to memorize my node locations like gatherer, or just collect a matrix of coordinates |
| 22:38.45 | Xinhuan | _routes doesn't gather any nodes |
| 22:38.56 | Xinhuan | all it does is, read your Cartographer_Mining data |
| 22:39.02 | Xinhuan | and use that data to draw nice lines |
| 22:39.14 | Xinhuan | once a route is created, it doesn't care whether _Mining exists or even loaded |
| 22:39.17 | Kivin | erm, do i need cart_herbalism, or something? |
| 22:39.25 | Xinhuan | it stores the line internally |
| 22:39.36 | Xinhuan | it only reads your _profession modules during route creation |
| 22:40.09 | Osstia | how does it behave on an herbalist/miner? |
| 22:40.12 | Polarina | Tekkub: Just before I leave, your addon tekJunkSeller is the buggies addon I have ever seen in my life compared to the number of code lines. |
| 22:40.41 | Tekkub | right.... |
| 22:40.44 | Tekkub | works fine for me |
| 22:41.40 | Polarina | Tekkub: I have discovered 3 bugs (1 unconfirmed) and 1 issue with it. |
| 22:42.05 | Tekkub | and yet I have no bug reports in my tracker |
| 22:42.32 | Polarina | Tekkub: Because I haven't yet bothered. |
| 22:42.50 | Tekkub | then why are you bothering to bitch on IRC? |
| 22:43.52 | Polarina | Tekkub: Because when I talked about the bugs on this channel (Or was it #wowi-lounge, not sure) you weren't here. I just noticed you now when I'm about to go to sleep. |
| 22:44.19 | Tekkub | well you can talk about bugs all you want, but if you want em fixed ya gotta report em :P |
| 22:44.28 | Polarina | Tekkub: :P |
| 22:45.01 | Polarina | Tekkub: But when you fix them, the addon won't be simple anymore. Probably over 80 lines of code more or so. |
| 22:45.06 | Kivin | Xinhuan: it says "no herbalism/mining/fishing data found" |
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| 22:45.16 | Tekkub | take now for example, even if you had told me what the bug is, I'm doing "real" work and by the time I'm done, I'd have forgotten |
| 22:45.17 | Kivin | I have _herbalism installed |
| 22:45.45 | kebinusan | anyone wouldnt happen to know a site that shows how different video settings affects the look of the game would they? |
| 22:46.47 | Polarina | Tekkub: I doubt you would want to do that... |
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| 22:47.33 | Xinhuan | kivin, _herbalism doesn't come with any data of its own |
| 22:47.39 | Xinhuan | you actually have to , um, herb stuff |
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| 22:47.45 | Xinhuan | to get recorded data |
| 22:47.48 | Kivin | =/ |
| 22:47.56 | Xinhuan | or you can install _Data |
| 22:48.04 | Xinhuan | which is a wowhead copy of every node |
| 22:48.14 | Xinhuan | that it will insert into your herb/ore database |
| 22:48.16 | Kivin | alright, i'll give that a shot :P |
| 22:48.43 | Xinhuan | you should just install _Data once, then disable it forever |
| 22:48.56 | Kivin | alright |
| 22:48.57 | Xinhuan | unless you want it to overwrite your database every login |
| 22:50.42 | Kivin | 126,560 yards. heh. |
| 22:51.34 | Polarina | Tekkub: I'm going to put the bug reports on the tracker tomorrow. But I can tell you one thing from my experience; Even something that does relatively simple and straightforward things (Such as tekJunkSeller) can't necessarily be done with a short amount of code. (A addon that sells poor quality items automatically when you visit a vendor can't be done with a short amount of code, for example.) |
| 22:51.36 | Kivin | Is the background optimization incremental? |
| 22:51.56 | Kivin | or will i see it all happen at once... ten mins from now |
| 22:52.04 | NivFreak | Anyone know anything about the US Maiev realm? |
| 22:52.16 | Xinhuan | no changes are written to your SV variable until it completes |
| 22:52.24 | Kivin | apologies, it just finished as i said that |
| 22:52.28 | Xinhuan | so its an all-or-nothing |
| 22:52.46 | Xinhuan | its the same function call really, other than the fact that i created a coroutine out of it |
| 22:52.56 | Xinhuan | and added some coroutine.yield() calls in it |
| 22:53.03 | Xinhuan | and an onupdate to resume it |
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| 22:53.38 | Xinhuan | of course doing a background one is more complicated since there are housekeeping stuff after its complete to store the changes, so more function closures are created ;p |
| 22:54.20 | Kivin | i was just puzzled that i didn't see any optimizations happening, wasn't sure if i did something wrong. then boom, it all happened at once |
| 22:54.44 | Kivin | is there a way i can make it use felweed AND nightmare vine? |
| 22:55.00 | Kivin | or will i end up with two separate routes |
| 22:55.38 | Snago | Polarina: I've got "Autoselling-grey-loot-and-autorepair-when-visit-a-vendor"-addon in 35 lines of code.. I don't see why it's not possible |
| 22:55.48 | Kivin | ohh, i see, i can check off the nodes |
| 22:56.39 | Kivin | 232,000 yards |
| 22:57.20 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 22:57.30 | Xinhuan | you can customize your route to only contain the stuff you are interested in |
| 22:58.07 | Polarina | Snago: The player could not afford a repair for example but could afford a repair for another item which you then sell and after that, the player could afford to repair that other item it couldn't before. Does your addon account for that possibility? |
| 22:58.24 | Snago | Does it need to? |
| 22:58.30 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 22:59.03 | Snago | No, in my 2+ years of WoW that has never happened to me. |
| 22:59.12 | Snago | I don't need it |
| 22:59.13 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 22:59.22 | Ellipsis | if you sell before repairing I don't see how there's an issue |
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| 23:00.17 | Polarina | Ellipsis: You can increase the amount of money you get if you repair before selling a broken item. Due to the repair cost discounts cendor can sometimes provide. |
| 23:00.48 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 23:00.57 | Ellipsis | repaired items vendor for the same as broken ones |
| 23:01.05 | Polarina | Ellipsis: No. |
| 23:01.10 | Polarina | Ellipsis: They don't. |
| 23:01.26 | Snago | The amount of times I've had broken item that wasn't my rading gear: 0 |
| 23:01.42 | Polarina | Snago: Sure. :) |
| 23:02.01 | Ellipsis | so in order to satisfy you an addon would have to repair, sell, and then repair again (if there's anything left to repair) |
| 23:02.34 | Snago | Could just talk to the vendor twice and my addon would do that ;P |
| 23:02.54 | Polarina | Snago: Sure you can. :| |
| 23:04.56 | Xinhuan | did he lose the repair addon war? |
| 23:05.19 | Kivin | lol |
| 23:05.33 | Osstia | haha |
| 23:05.40 | Osstia | he mentioned sleep a while back with tekkub |
| 23:05.48 | Osstia | i wondered how long he was going to stay and argue |
| 23:06.46 | Snago | My last word on this subject: K.I.S.S. |
| 23:06.55 | Snago | Goodnight |
| 23:06.56 | Osstia | ^^ |
| 23:07.18 | Ellipsis | yeah, such a minor benefit in such a rare edge case...not worth the code |
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| 23:11.55 | bigzero | darn Fin...Mirror is turning into a mess |
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| 23:12.40 | bigzero | Prat wouldn't have to have a link on-hover module, would it? |
| 23:13.10 | bigzero | happen to have * |
| 23:14.10 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r58575 10Cryolysis2/messages/ (core.lua pig.lua portal.lua ritual.lua sheep.lua turtle.lua): |
| 23:14.10 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 23:14.10 | CIA-4 | - Fixed teleport messages being shown when they shouldn't |
| 23:14.10 | CIA-4 | - Fixed a bug that would allow the same random message to appear back to back |
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| 23:17.18 | Pkekyo| | I'm hungry |
| 23:17.21 | Pkekyo| | someone order me a pizza! |
| 23:17.47 | Kivin | Back when i played Eve-Online, three guys ransomed a guy's ship for a pizza |
| 23:17.47 | Chosi | no |
| 23:17.55 | Kivin | Made him long distance call the pizza |
| 23:18.07 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:18.23 | Kivin | It arrived with "Enjoy your pizza, you fucking assholes" written inside the box |
| 23:18.40 | Pkekyo| | lmao |
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| 23:19.17 | Arrowmaster | they gave the guy their address so he could call a pizza place near them and order a pizza and pay with a credit card im guessing? |
| 23:19.33 | Kivin | they must've given everything, because the pizza arrived |
| 23:20.04 | Ellipsis | sounds intelligent |
| 23:24.00 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 23:24.02 | Xinhuan | nice pizza |
| 23:24.30 | Kivin | had they caught me in a battleship with faction fittings, i would've dialed the pizza guy too |
| 23:24.53 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r58576 10Cryolysis2/ (buttons/managem.lua core/events.lua core/options.lua): |
| 23:24.53 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 23:24.53 | CIA-4 | - Fixed a taint error thrown while using a mana gem in combat |
| 23:25.40 | Pkekyo| | 50 spelldmg vs. 1.5% spellcrit? |
| 23:26.16 | Stanzilla | class? |
| 23:28.56 | Pkekyo| | mage |
| 23:29.04 | chiper | whats your % at? |
| 23:29.46 | Pkekyo| | 297 spelldmg, 10.98% crit |
| 23:29.54 | chiper | erm, what level? |
| 23:29.58 | Pkekyo| | 62 :p |
| 23:30.03 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 23:30.06 | Stanzilla | spelldmg then |
| 23:30.10 | chiper | yeah, dmg |
| 23:30.13 | Kivin | agreed |
| 23:30.38 | chiper | at 70 10% would be shite and you'd want that, but pre-70 go for spell damage |
| 23:30.49 | Pkekyo| | lols, it's the third staff I've replaced within 40min :p |
| 23:31.14 | Stanzilla | nagrand arena quest staff is the best |
| 23:31.23 | chiper | heh, I had an instance run a couple weeks ago where I replaced my shoulders three times |
| 23:32.09 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 23:33.55 | Pkekyo| | meh, I'm getting bombarded with lesser planar essences :p |
| 23:34.07 | chiper | so turn em into greaters |
| 23:34.39 | Pkekyo| | working on it :p |
| 23:35.57 | Pkekyo| | 30 greater planar essences three levels after coming to outland, and unmentionable amounts of arcane dusts |
| 23:36.01 | bigzero | 50 spelldmg > 1.5 crit unless you do about 3k per hit |
| 23:36.12 | Pkekyo| | enchanting proves to be quite profitable |
| 23:37.27 | bigzero | you'll use it up to lvl enchanting, then once you have 375 the greens will stop comming since you'll be 70 already (or in the vicinity) |
| 23:37.48 | Pkekyo| | if you don't stop playing, the greens won't stop comming |
| 23:38.17 | bigzero | if you plan on raiding, you won't be getting that many of them |
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| 23:38.36 | dre^ | depends on if you're the loot master or not ;) |
| 23:40.15 | Ellipsis | if you do dailies, you get greens |
| 23:40.16 | Pkekyo| | you do realize there's a game outside raid instances as well? :) |
| 23:40.28 | Pkekyo| | if you kill ANYTHING outside raid instances, you get greens |
| 23:40.56 | bigzero | don't count on the droprate being too high |
| 23:41.09 | Pkekyo| | thank you, capitain obvious |
| 23:41.20 | Ellipsis | tbh most of my non-shard mats come from dailies |
| 23:41.36 | Pkekyo| | you can't DE rep rewards, can you? |
| 23:41.38 | Ellipsis | some of them, and most of the shards, come from 5man/heroics |
| 23:41.55 | bigzero | Ellipsis, what dailies give greens? or do you mean drops? |
| 23:42.09 | Ellipsis | generally you can't, Pkekyo| |
| 23:42.15 | Ellipsis | bigzero: I mean drops |
| 23:42.20 | Osstia | i only do the fast dailies |
| 23:42.30 | Ellipsis | in the time it takes you to get 40 netherwing crystals you're bound to get a couple greens |
| 23:42.47 | bigzero | oh yeah..netherwing dailies |
| 23:42.51 | bigzero | i hate those |
| 23:42.56 | bigzero | take so long |
| 23:43.08 | Osstia | I don't think i will do it on any more of mine |
| 23:43.49 | Kivin | I'm led to believe netherwing dailies yield good gold for the time they occupy |
| 23:43.59 | Ellipsis | some of them are good |
| 23:43.59 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, regarding game outside raids, there's a point when there really isn't much to do outside of raiding |
| 23:44.04 | Ellipsis | some of them are just painful |
| 23:44.12 | Ellipsis | transporters* |
| 23:44.19 | bigzero | imo blade's edge is much faster gold |
| 23:44.20 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: there's ALWAYS something to do outside raiding |
| 23:44.36 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: suggestions? :P |
| 23:44.49 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, bigzero has nothing to do...i sit in org and mess with addons |
| 23:45.03 | bigzero | that' why i lvled a druid, so i have something to do |
| 23:45.12 | Kivin | I just keep leveling new chars |
| 23:45.14 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: farm for repairs/consumables/mounts/alts/professions and whatnot |
| 23:45.23 | Kivin | i'll ding my third 70 tonight, and have two more by the end of feb |
| 23:45.32 | Ellipsis | if you don't raid, you don't have to farm for repairs/consumables |
| 23:45.37 | Ellipsis | and once you've got your epic flyer... |
| 23:45.42 | Ellipsis | all that's left is alts :/ |
| 23:46.04 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: I said outside of raids, not things to do if you never ever raid |
| 23:46.11 | bigzero | and how many of those can you lvl before it gets to your nerves |
| 23:46.23 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: approximately one of every class? |
| 23:46.28 | bigzero | ouch |
| 23:46.34 | bigzero | i don't think i could do that |
| 23:46.34 | Pkekyo| | two, if you do it on both factions |
| 23:46.37 | Ellipsis | well I never ever raid and I'm bored =[ |
| 23:46.43 | Pkekyo| | I could do that |
| 23:46.47 | Pkekyo| | but I'd never finish :p |
| 23:46.57 | Ellipsis | that's a good thing though |
| 23:47.05 | Ellipsis | in the context of avoiding boredom, at least |
| 23:47.06 | mort_ | i'm working on my 4th and 5th level 70 and it's starting to get really boring |
| 23:47.12 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: roll a female n/b-elf toon and dance nude on tables for gold! :) |
| 23:47.21 | Ellipsis | done it :/ |
| 23:47.27 | bigzero | Ellipsis, why don't you raid? |
| 23:47.28 | Ellipsis | both races, in fact |
| 23:47.36 | Ellipsis | bigzero: dunno, I never get invited |
| 23:47.43 | bigzero | join a guild? |
| 23:47.47 | Ellipsis | I'm in one |
| 23:47.54 | bigzero | what class are you? |
| 23:47.55 | Ellipsis | but I'm not usually awake during raid time |
| 23:47.57 | Ellipsis | warlock |
| 23:48.05 | Ellipsis | one of a whole 2? 3? |
| 23:48.07 | Ellipsis | in my guild |
| 23:48.29 | bigzero | you should consider switching guilds then :-) |
| 23:48.37 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 23:48.40 | bigzero | hehe |
| 23:48.45 | Ellipsis | I could, but I still wouldn't be able to keep my attendance up |
| 23:49.01 | bigzero | yeah, my problem currently as well |
| 23:49.02 | aestil | autobar still breaking eepanels2 script for panel resize, wtb continued trouble shooting help. |
| 23:49.09 | Ellipsis | wts |
| 23:49.32 | Estil | D: |
| 23:49.47 | Estil | I don't raid either :D |
| 23:49.50 | aestil | what would you like me to try Ellipsis ? |
| 23:50.04 | aestil | do you need to see the script thats breaking? |
| 23:50.05 | Estil | casual guild is nice though, they don't require me X attendance |
| 23:50.18 | Ellipsis | aestil: I need the screenshots again if you've still got the links |
| 23:50.22 | aestil | yeah |
| 23:50.23 | bigzero | but the you get stuck in kara Estil |
| 23:50.37 | Estil | we just don't have people :( |
| 23:50.41 | bigzero | which i actually wouldn't mind |
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| 23:50.55 | Ellipsis | I'd rather be raiding kara than sitting in shatt while the rest of my guild raids SSC :P |
| 23:50.58 | Estil | well, it's partially because guildmaster is busy with irl for a bit |
| 23:51.02 | aestil | http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/before.png |
| 23:51.06 | Estil | but we've pwnd up to gruul |
| 23:51.08 | bigzero | Ellipsis, what server are you on? |
| 23:51.11 | Estil | and working on tk |
| 23:51.12 | Ellipsis | cenarius |
| 23:51.27 | Pkekyo| | ding 225/225 engineering :) |
| 23:51.28 | aestil | http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/after2.png |
| 23:51.32 | bigzero | Estil, not bad for a casual guild |
| 23:51.38 | Estil | we do kara casually now since all the core players have pretty much every kara item |
| 23:51.47 | Estil | so when we do kara it's alts that run |
| 23:51.48 | Estil | or new people |
| 23:51.59 | aestil | Ellipsis: is on a PvE server, or she would have transfered to me. we needed locks in the past. working on gurtogg atm, archimonde down. |
| 23:52.31 | Estil | I burned out on raiding in old alliance guild |
| 23:52.36 | Estil | so I turned to casual :p |
| 23:52.50 | Ellipsis | aestil: so with autobar running, the script just doesn't resize it at all? |
| 23:53.13 | Estil | my old alliance guild, I was in it pre-bc, aka 40 man raids |
| 23:53.19 | Estil | had X attendance requirement and all |
| 23:53.24 | Estil | I coudln't handle that plus schoolwork |
| 23:53.53 | Ellipsis | I've never gotten the chance to be a hardcore raider |
| 23:54.04 | Ellipsis | it makes me emo |
| 23:54.27 | aestil | basically, its sorta random. |
| 23:54.29 | Xinhuan | my guild is working on illidan right now - and i don't require an attendance % ;p |
| 23:54.38 | aestil | it accasionally messes with panel strata. |
| 23:54.48 | Ellipsis | aestil: is this with the latest autobar from files.wowace.com? |
| 23:54.58 | Estil | but Xin you're a special case :( |
| 23:55.09 | aestil | well, that screen shot was taken yesterday or the day before? with the most current version at the time. |
| 23:55.11 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, can I join your guild? |
| 23:55.21 | Ellipsis | kk aestil - and can you pastey that script again |
| 23:55.22 | Xinhuan | i don't think you'll meet raid times, sorry :) |
| 23:55.25 | aestil | yes. |
| 23:55.26 | aestil | hold on. |
| 23:55.27 | Estil | oh and 40 man raid sucked ass |
| 23:55.28 | Xinhuan | 1.30 am-5am weekdays |
| 23:55.29 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 23:55.32 | Xinhuan | server time pst |
| 23:55.33 | Estil | way too much loot competition |
| 23:55.38 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: that actually works best for me |
| 23:55.45 | Ellipsis | that's about the time I'm most likely to be awake |
| 23:55.52 | aestil | thats during her 'sexoring' time. |
| 23:56.00 | Ellipsis | shush and pastey the script nub |
| 23:56.02 | Xinhuan | i haven't seen anybody last longer than 6 months in those raiding hours |
| 23:56.11 | Ellipsis | I don't have a normal sleeping schedule |
| 23:56.12 | Xinhuan | which are normally 8pm-12mn fo rus |
| 23:56.14 | Xinhuan | for us* |
| 23:56.21 | Ellipsis | surely you've noticed taht |
| 23:56.58 | Xinhuan | did i also mention, i'm on a pvp server :D |
| 23:57.08 | Ellipsis | screw you people, you're so useless :( |
| 23:57.08 | aestil | http://ace.pastey.net/80745 |
| 23:57.19 | Estil | lol |
| 23:57.22 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 23:57.23 | xyu | screw you guys, i'm going home! |
| 23:57.30 | NivFreak | does /who not show more than 49 people? |
| 23:57.34 | Estil | it doesn't |
| 23:57.35 | xyu | correct |
| 23:57.41 | NivFreak | is there any way to get a count? |
| 23:57.45 | Xinhuan | NivFreak: no |
| 23:57.52 | NivFreak | lame |
| 23:57.53 | xyu | Census+ |
| 23:57.57 | Xinhuan | you can only get more detailed ones by splitting up your /who request |
| 23:58.01 | Xinhuan | into races, and classes |
| 23:58.08 | NivFreak | or by zone |
| 23:58.09 | exor674 | iterate /who Aa, /who Ab, etc... |
| 23:58.09 | Xinhuan | then dividing as necessary |
| 23:58.15 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: you can join my guild^^ |
| 23:58.16 | exor674 | and take like 5 hours to get all the data P |
| 23:58.27 | NivFreak | I just wanted to know how many lvl 70 horde were online |
| 23:58.29 | xyu | Census will do it all for you |
| 23:58.29 | NivFreak | on a few servers |
| 23:58.33 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla: ok, know anyone with an eu lock for sale? |
| 23:58.34 | NivFreak | to get a sense of population between them |
| 23:58.42 | Xinhuan | nah, you can do /who c-"Warlock" z-"Arathi Basin" |
| 23:58.46 | NivFreak | xyu: is that an addon?> |
| 23:58.49 | xyu | yeah |
| 23:58.52 | NivFreak | ah |
| 23:58.52 | NivFreak | k |
| 23:58.53 | Xinhuan | to indicate class - warlock |
| 23:58.57 | Xinhuan | and zone = AB |
| 23:58.59 | NivFreak | and it takes hours? |
| 23:59.00 | NivFreak | heh |
| 23:59.03 | xyu | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/censusplus.php |
| 23:59.05 | Xinhuan | n-"substring of name" |
| 23:59.12 | Xinhuan | g-"substring of guild" |
| 23:59.13 | xyu | If you want a sense of your population, that webpage has it. |
| 23:59.19 | Xinhuan | and level ranges are specified by X-Y |
| 23:59.27 | Fin | bigzero: sorry! and no, Prat does not have a link on-hover module |
| 23:59.38 | xyu | Go here http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php |
| 23:59.38 | Xinhuan | /who c-"Warlock" z-"Arathi Basin" 61-70 n-"rat" |
| 23:59.42 | xyu | You can look it up by serve.r |
| 23:59.47 | NivFreak | xyu: I know how inaccurate the methods are, so I just want to see an online now count :) |
| 23:59.50 | aestil | Ellipsis: ? |
| 23:59.52 | Xinhuan | that would find all lvl 61-70s in AB, that is a warlock with the word "rat" in the name |
| 23:59.52 | xyu | I'm not sure how up to date it is. |
| 23:59.53 | xyu | Ah |
