| 00:01.23 | thul | pfft |
| 00:01.23 | thul | enhancement = thewin |
| 00:01.23 | thul | so fun to lvl :-D |
| 00:01.23 | thul | pew pew pew, flurry, windfury, focused, buffs flying up and down :-D |
| 00:01.23 | thul | great fun |
| 00:01.24 | dylanm | Instance grinnnd |
| 00:01.37 | dylanm | Once you get windfury it is pretty great yeah. |
| 00:02.13 | chiper | I am enhancement spec'd, it's fucking boring. |
| 00:02.35 | chiper | I stand there and beat on things while spamming shock spells. palladins are more interesting |
| 00:02.40 | thul | pfft |
| 00:02.43 | thul | you're doing it wrong :-D |
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| 00:08.15 | Zariel | with SetScript() can you do a callback function instead of defining one ? |
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| 00:09.48 | dylanm | Zariel: Sure. Functions are functions. |
| 00:13.41 | ckknight | Tekkub: the issues with tekKompare and CowTip have been fixed, you can remove the condom at the bottom of the code and it'll work fine |
| 00:13.57 | Tekkub | okey lady |
| 00:17.46 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: is there an rss feed for your git repo? |
| 00:18.13 | Tekkub | likely not, ask kerg |
| 00:18.18 | Tekkub | there is CIA though |
| 00:18.25 | Tekkub | when it wants to work |
| 00:18.55 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 00:19.35 | kergoth | don't think cgit supports rss yet |
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| 00:21.33 | Zariel | Im trying to add a shadow to frames with a function, http://ace.pastey.net/81290 but doesnt seem to be working, can some one point me in the right direction? |
| 00:24.47 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 00:26.09 | Xinhuan | i wonder what makes CIA-9 choke |
| 00:28.02 | kergoth | meh, wondering if i should bother continuing to level 2 pets.. the bat is definately better for solo due to screech, but i doubt i'll bother going to a stable master and switching regularly, due to laziness |
| 00:28.10 | kergoth | Xinhuan: probably doesnt help that its not really well maintained anymore |
| 00:28.21 | kergoth | the original developer isnt intersted, and the people who took over dont seem to keep an eye on it anymore |
| 00:28.22 | kergoth | :( |
| 00:28.35 | Xinhuan | do you know how cia works? |
| 00:29.00 | Xinhuan | does it use callbacks from the repositories or does it poll rss feeds or what? |
| 00:29.05 | kergoth | yes. |
| 00:29.08 | kergoth | it has multiple ntoifcation methods |
| 00:29.20 | kergoth | you can email the commit info in xml |
| 00:29.24 | kergoth | you can submit it via xml/rpc |
| 00:29.39 | kergoth | you can email it just to poke it, and when it gets poked it connects to the svn to get latest rev info |
| 00:30.08 | Xinhuan | which one is it using for wowace? |
| 00:30.08 | kergoth | i think it usees the xml/rpc method, but i'm not sure |
| 00:30.52 | Xinhuan | maybe a new bot needs to be written |
| 00:31.00 | Xinhuan | by someone on wowace itself hehe |
| 00:31.53 | kergoth | the code is probably pretty maintainable |
| 00:32.01 | kergoth | you can check it out of their svn and run one yoursel fi you wanted to |
| 00:32.50 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r59412 10BossTalk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): BossTalk: initial commit |
| 00:33.22 | Xinhuan | wonder what THAT does |
| 00:33.30 | array{Endeavour} | quotes bosses :) |
| 00:33.43 | Xinhuan | like, how? |
| 00:34.07 | array{Endeavour} | download it and try out, my englishs not good enough to explain :( |
| 00:34.09 | Pernicius | boss yells, emotes and so on |
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| 00:34.32 | Pernicius | and sounds .. very cool :) |
| 00:35.01 | [SW]Dodge | does it habe something like the bosswisper function from deadlybossmods? :) |
| 00:35.10 | Xinhuan | so i could mimic Onyxia ? |
| 00:35.11 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 00:35.15 | Xinhuan | and yell what he says? |
| 00:35.20 | array{Endeavour} | yes |
| 00:35.29 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: she... not he :) |
| 00:35.29 | JoshBorke | isn't ony a she? |
| 00:35.34 | array{Endeavour} | you can yell and say, also plays the according soundfile |
| 00:35.37 | [SW]Dodge | LADY onyxia ;D |
| 00:35.41 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:35.42 | array{Endeavour} | and syncs with other addon users |
| 00:35.46 | Xinhuan | FLEE, before its too late! |
| 00:35.48 | Xinhuan | FLEE, before its too late! |
| 00:35.51 | SunTsu | Lady Katrana Prestor ;) |
| 00:35.58 | Xinhuan | guess who said that |
| 00:36.00 | array{Endeavour} | currently ~100 boss quotations included |
| 00:36.08 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Ghandalf? ;)) |
| 00:36.20 | Xinhuan | 4 horsemen ;d one of them hehe |
| 00:36.25 | SunTsu | without "h", that is |
| 00:36.25 | Xinhuan | sir-something-or-other |
| 00:37.32 | Zariel | <3 4 H< |
| 00:37.34 | Zariel | HM |
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| 00:42.01 | CIA-9 | 03celellach * r59413 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: |
| 00:42.01 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:42.01 | CIA-9 | - Bugfix |
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| 00:50.35 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r59414 10BossTalk/: BossTalk: Updated externals |
| 00:55.19 | CIA-9 | 03sole * r59415 10Antagonist/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Antagonist: Added Cheat Death cooldown (1 min) and buff (3 sec). Fear Ward cooldown now 3 min. Fixed ParserLib toc entry. |
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| 00:55.49 | bigzero | ~ping |
| 00:55.50 | purl | pong |
| 00:56.18 | thul | ~byte |
| 00:56.19 | purl | byte is probably Simply put, it's 8 bits. Think of it as a string of 1s and 0s thatrepresents a number from 0 to 255. For example '01100101' is one byte ofinformation. |
| 00:57.07 | Xinhuan | ~bit |
| 00:57.08 | purl | well, bit is This is the smallest unit of measure in a computer. It isrepresented by a 0 (off) or 1 (on). You can think of a bit as a switch.If it's in the on position, it's a 1, and if the switch is off, it's a 0.All parts of your computer communicate in bits if you go to the lowestlevel. |
| 00:57.09 | Estil | :o |
| 00:57.32 | Xinhuan | ~long |
| 00:58.07 | TNSe | heh |
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| 00:58.58 | TNSe | "Warlock has beaten Mage in duel" "Warlock starts to summon Infernal" "Mage takes 60 fire damage" "Mage dies." |
| 00:59.16 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 00:59.23 | Estil | lol |
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| 01:00.38 | TNSe | reason #56 you dont duel a lock |
| 01:03.21 | Estil | locks are fine |
| 01:03.23 | Estil | need buffs |
| 01:03.51 | Hjalte | Warlocks are only overpowered in the right spec, so everyone should stop crying. |
| 01:04.43 | Megalon | depends on the way you define 'right spec', if you define it as 'at least points spent', then you are probably right :P |
| 01:05.02 | Megalon | s/least /least 31+/ |
| 01:05.03 | Osstia|mac | anyone know of an addon that auto-loots prospecting? |
| 01:06.01 | Hjalte | Megalon: As a destruction lock, I cry when I see horde. |
| 01:06.46 | ulic | Osstia|mac: just turn on auto-looting? |
| 01:06.48 | Megalon | well, i also sometimes begin to cry when i see horde... but i play an orc ;/ |
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| 01:06.57 | thul | I think I officially have the weirdest rogue spec ever now |
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| 01:07.25 | Megalon | hemodagger? :P |
| 01:07.55 | thul | almost:P |
| 01:08.04 | thul | 16/3/42 |
| 01:09.23 | Megalon | shadowpimp |
| 01:09.32 | Megalon | got ambushed for 3.8k last time on my twink :< |
| 01:10.23 | thul | haha |
| 01:10.28 | thul | i have a 4.8 unbuffed ambush |
| 01:10.32 | thul | with shadowpimpage. |
| 01:11.20 | thul | oh, sorry, it was 4700 :-P |
| 01:12.28 | Megalon | it's bad mannered to gank naked off-warriors who sit there to let recklessness run out! |
| 01:12.30 | Megalon | ;/ |
| 01:12.37 | thul | a:P |
| 01:13.00 | thul | mod + opp + shadowstepbuff = 50% ++ |
| 01:13.01 | thul | yehaw |
| 01:13.43 | Megalon | suxhaw! |
| 01:14.02 | thul | that is pure fun |
| 01:14.11 | thul | 4k ambush, 3k backstab + white damage + evisc |
| 01:14.13 | thul | grat fun |
| 01:14.14 | thul | great |
| 01:15.40 | Primer | Anyone know of a mod that reports method of death to a common channel? like party/raid/guild? |
| 01:16.38 | Megalon | hehe |
| 01:17.38 | Megalon | now leveling my shaman, so many allies tried to gank me, but i don't know, i don't like pvp, but it seems 98% of those gankers are made of epic fail on my server :c |
| 01:17.48 | thul | I wonder what fresh 70 newbies must think in bgs |
| 01:18.24 | Megalon | fresh 70s, so you go into the AV caves? :p |
| 01:19.00 | thul | neh, wsg weekend |
| 01:19.13 | thul | when i crit with 4k++ with ambush, it has to be fresh 70s |
| 01:19.23 | thul | like 2 res would fuck that up :-P |
| 01:19.34 | Megalon | hehe |
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| 01:29.03 | array{Endeavour} | mode +o ? what's that mean? |
| 01:29.14 | thul | operator |
| 01:29.15 | thul | boss |
| 01:29.16 | thul | chief |
| 01:29.17 | thul | etc |
| 01:29.26 | array{Endeavour} | :P |
| 01:33.10 | tinderbox | how can i create a new project on the wowace jira? |
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| 01:40.15 | Sole | my friend and I managed to get him a 7k ambush |
| 01:40.47 | Arrowmaster | my friend got a 7k envenom the other day |
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| 01:41.23 | Sole | one of us does premed -> cheapshot -> expose -> hemo (extra buff) -> vanish -> shadowstep -> ambush and the other just does premed shadowstep ambush evisc :) |
| 01:41.49 | Sole | I exposed a 0 resil, no shield shaman for him and he smacked him for 7k. Damned t6 gear |
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| 01:53.27 | Xinhuan | ["length"] = nil --[[ inf ]], |
| 01:53.32 | Xinhuan | what the hell |
| 01:53.42 | bigz | ? |
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| 01:53.52 | Xinhuan | the savedvar file that blizzard builds doesn't save +inf or -inf |
| 01:54.14 | Xinhuan | it saves "nil" |
| 01:54.24 | Xinhuan | rather than writing 1/0 or -1/0 |
| 01:54.33 | bigzero | lua> print(1/0) |
| 01:54.33 | lua_bot | bigzero: inf |
| 01:54.58 | dylanm | lua> print(type(1/0)) |
| 01:54.58 | lua_bot | dylanm: number |
| 01:55.02 | dylanm | Wild. |
| 01:55.16 | bigzero | lua> print(type(inf)) |
| 01:55.17 | lua_bot | bigzero: nil |
| 01:56.38 | Quezacolt | Guys, I have a question - when my AddOn's FuBar plugin is minimap-attached, its location on the minimap doesn't get saved across sessions |
| 01:56.49 | Quezacolt | How do I preserve its location across sessions? |
| 02:00.13 | Arrowmaster | does your addon have saved vars? |
| 02:04.56 | potemkin | is there a different between '' and "" for a string |
| 02:05.01 | Xinhuan | no |
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| 02:05.18 | Xinhuan | you can use " inside a '' string and ' inside a "" string :) |
| 02:05.19 | bigzero | what are some other alternatives to ItemRack and ClosetGnome |
| 02:05.20 | bigzero | ? |
| 02:05.26 | Xinhuan | Outfitter |
| 02:05.28 | Xinhuan | Wardrobe |
| 02:05.42 | bigzero | outfiter... that's the one i was looking for :-) thanks |
| 02:06.19 | NeoTron | I want an "outfitter" that can make the best set based on the data provided by DrDamage |
| 02:06.30 | NeoTron | i.e "maek the set that gives me the most shadow bolt DPS" |
| 02:06.33 | Xinhuan | lol NeoTron, another of those NP-hard problems |
| 02:06.38 | Xinhuan | good luck! |
| 02:06.48 | NeoTron | I was thinkign about it as an out-of-wow tool |
| 02:06.51 | NeoTron | it's quite complex |
| 02:07.08 | Xinhuan | i just added node clustering and node-unclustering code into Routes |
| 02:07.11 | NeoTron | I was also think about the "pick the best gems with the available gear" situation |
| 02:07.15 | Xinhuan | node clustering is a Np-hard problem |
| 02:07.25 | Xinhuan | node unclustering is O(n) ;d |
| 02:07.28 | NeoTron | does that make nearby nodes appear as one? |
| 02:07.32 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:07.35 | NeoTron | cool |
| 02:07.42 | Xinhuan | i'll link screenies |
| 02:07.51 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp3.jpg -- BEFORE: 657 nodes |
| 02:07.58 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4.jpg -- After clustering nodes at 200 yards radius: 69 nodes |
| 02:08.04 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp5.jpg -- After clustering nodes at 100 yards radius: 196 nodes |
| 02:08.29 | NeoTron | nice |
| 02:08.35 | NeoTron | 100 yrd or so seems like a pretty good size |
| 02:08.39 | Xinhuan | the node clustering algo i used in this case is |
| 02:08.40 | Xinhuan | Hierarchical Agglomerative Clustering |
| 02:08.49 | Xinhuan | and is a "greedy approach" |
| 02:08.54 | Xinhuan | so it always gives the same result |
| 02:09.02 | NeoTron | I don't even know what Agglomerative means :P |
| 02:09.17 | Xinhuan | it means taking individual elements and combining them together |
| 02:09.25 | Xinhuan | "accumulate" |
| 02:09.43 | Xinhuan | also 100 yards isn't actually a good value |
| 02:09.52 | Xinhuan | because "Find Minerals" detection radius is 80 yards |
| 02:10.07 | NeoTron | so ~60-70 would be good then |
| 02:10.16 | Xinhuan | the detection-in radius is 80 yards, detection-out is 00 yards |
| 02:10.20 | Xinhuan | the detection-in radius is 80 yards, detection-out is 100 yards |
| 02:10.23 | Xinhuan | missed the "1" there |
| 02:11.24 | bigzero | do coordinates correspond to yards? i thought all areas go from 0-100 no matter how big they are |
| 02:11.40 | Xinhuan | all coordinates are normalized to [0,1] range |
| 02:11.52 | Xinhuan | so your [0,100], just divide by 100 |
| 02:12.18 | Xinhuan | so to convert to yards, you have to multiply by the zone yard width |
| 02:12.38 | bigzero | heh, so wait... you went out and measured all zones? |
| 02:12.44 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:12.53 | Xinhuan | TouristLib did that |
| 02:12.59 | Xinhuan | its fairly easy to do it |
| 02:13.05 | Xinhuan | just ride a mount at 100% |
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| 02:13.11 | Xinhuan | and measure your (x,y) delta |
| 02:13.28 | bigzero | touche |
| 02:18.13 | tinderbox | Xinhuan: that node clustering is awesome, was going to ask if something like that were possible in routes :) |
| 02:18.33 | Xinhuan | its one of those "when i have time" things |
| 02:19.23 | tinderbox | just to make sure im understanding it correctly.. that gives you the route that takes you within N yard of every node, right? |
| 02:19.34 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 02:19.40 | tinderbox | nice :) |
| 02:19.48 | Xinhuan | but it means you actually have to stick to the route |
| 02:19.51 | Xinhuan | rather than cutting corners |
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| 02:19.58 | Xinhuan | or you may miss a few nodes |
| 02:20.50 | tinderbox | one thing ive been wondering.. is node detection a cylinder of infinite height? |
| 02:20.55 | NeoTron | talking to a friend that's just recently killed kael'thas whose guild soon will go into t6 |
| 02:21.05 | NeoTron | his main concerns are azgalor, gorefiend and kaz'rogal |
| 02:21.13 | NeoTron | but he expects archimonde to be pretty easy |
| 02:21.24 | tinderbox | gorefiend only sucks because any 1 person can wipe the raid |
| 02:21.43 | NeoTron | typically as long as the FIRST person is good, a moron won't wipe you |
| 02:21.55 | NeoTron | because if the first guy is fast you can easil get a chain of helpers for subsequent spawns |
| 02:22.05 | Xinhuan | it is a cylinder of infinite height since patch 2.3 |
| 02:22.16 | Xinhuan | it used to be a sphere in before 2.3 |
| 02:22.35 | NeoTron | good to know |
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| 02:23.06 | potemkin | select is some global function right? |
| 02:23.22 | Shirik|Ecole | it's a standard API yes |
| 02:23.23 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:23.27 | tinderbox | Xinhuan: maybe next you can add not routing over cities of the enemy faction.. ive managed to kill myself several times when zoned out following a route :P |
| 02:23.48 | potemkin | select(1,...) is faster than args[1] right |
| 02:23.57 | Sole | tinderbox: weed and WoW probably dont mix then :P |
| 02:24.04 | tinderbox | lol |
| 02:24.07 | Xinhuan | "[Guild] Guildie1: Fuck, your addon just killed me, your route went over a horde town!" |
| 02:24.20 | Xinhuan | "[Guild] Guildie2: Xinhuan, your addon kills people? Good work, keep it up" |
| 02:24.27 | kergoth | lol |
| 02:25.35 | Sole | haha |
| 02:25.57 | bigzero | wtb brains |
| 02:26.19 | bigzero | and a fast mount for Guildie1 |
| 02:26.27 | Sole | hmm, I just created a 67mb psd file :D |
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| 02:32.12 | Xinhuan | hi Thrae |
| 02:33.11 | Thrae | New kernel screwed with my mdadm conf =/ Needed to play with /dev nodes |
| 02:33.22 | Xinhuan | i have a new suggestion for you thrae |
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| 02:33.34 | Xinhuan | make a !tocnotes addonname |
| 02:33.47 | Xinhuan | which connects to the svn to get the addonname.toc |
| 02:33.52 | Xinhuan | and report back what the ## Notes: |
| 02:33.53 | Xinhuan | says |
| 02:33.56 | Xinhuan | :) |
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| 02:34.09 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Yeah, the very first version of ThraeBot, written in mirc script, had that |
| 02:34.25 | Xinhuan | is it still available? |
| 02:34.39 | Thrae | It would be exceedingly easy to do |
| 02:35.04 | Thrae | But right now I'm taking a break after finally getting both my desktop working (new CPU cooler installed) and my server working (new kernel installed) |
| 02:35.06 | Xinhuan | do it, or i'll provide copy and paste my own version in mirc script ;p |
| 02:35.17 | Xinhuan | probably* |
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| 02:45.35 | Seerah | <3 ckknight for updates to cowtip :) |
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| 02:46.39 | bigzero | ugh.. itemrack = 500kb |
| 02:46.51 | Seerah | oh noez! |
| 02:47.02 | Seerah | a whole 500kb? :) |
| 02:47.06 | bigzero | indeed |
| 02:47.17 | Seerah | whatever will you do? ;) |
| 02:47.29 | Thrae | I don't think my computer even uses its pagefile |
| 02:47.32 | NightHawkTheSane | you're just going to have to get another hampster, i guess |
| 02:47.32 | bigzero | i might just have to buy another 2gb of ram |
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| 02:53.34 | Tinyboom | ckknight: ping |
| 02:58.52 | Xinhuan | NightHawkTheSane, what did you request to be added to gathermate earlier? |
| 02:59.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 02:59.06 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Xinhuan |
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| 02:59.51 | NightHawkTheSane | It should fade out, or remove, or not-turn-into-little-circles nodes on your minimap for professions you're not actively tracking |
| 03:00.15 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 03:00.25 | Xinhuan | i dont like all those "or"s in that statement |
| 03:00.28 | Xinhuan | can you rephrase that |
| 03:02.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Okay, if you have nodes on your minimap for a given profession, but are NOT tracking that profession (say, track minerals active, but you're also an herbalist, so have herb nodes on your map as well) |
| 03:02.47 | NightHawkTheSane | GatherMate should do something to de-emphasize those. Either a) change the alpha to fade them a bit, b) remove them completely, or c) maybe just not turn the nodes into circles when you get near them |
| 03:03.29 | Xinhuan | you mean like http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp7.jpg ? |
| 03:03.48 | Xinhuan | the option was added 1 or 2 days ago |
| 03:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:04.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i should update more often. |
| 03:04.15 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thanks :) |
| 03:04.43 | Xinhuan | you'll find that if you are both a herbalist + miner |
| 03:04.47 | Xinhuan | you'll want to show both |
| 03:04.57 | Xinhuan | that way, both of them turn into tracking circles of different colors |
| 03:05.10 | Xinhuan | and you'll know when to switch/toggle between "find minerals" and "find herbs" |
| 03:05.15 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, do they now? That's even better |
| 03:05.18 | Xinhuan | due to the differently colored circles |
| 03:05.24 | NightHawkTheSane | on the version i have, they're the same color, so >.> |
| 03:05.36 | Xinhuan | yep, i added the different tracking circle colors |
| 03:05.40 | Xinhuan | see the screenshot |
| 03:05.42 | Xinhuan | in the middle |
| 03:05.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 03:05.49 | Xinhuan | even added a tracking distance slider |
| 03:05.58 | NightHawkTheSane | damn, that shot |
| 03:06.06 | NightHawkTheSane | s/t s/ts / |
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| 03:06.18 | Xinhuan | the older version is just all 1 color |
| 03:06.48 | Xinhuan | the "show nodes on minimap border" option is new too |
| 03:06.57 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 03:06.58 | Xinhuan | if you don't want them to show up |
| 03:07.12 | bigzero | Xinhuan, is there a way to add custom tracking? like chests or Bloods of Heroes? |
| 03:07.18 | Xinhuan | no heh |
| 03:07.21 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i think I last updated 2-3 days ago.. heh |
| 03:07.24 | bigzero | :-( |
| 03:07.29 | Xinhuan | you still need cart_treasure for that one |
| 03:07.34 | bigzero | blood of heroes is a pain in the ass |
| 03:07.51 | Xinhuan | well just do what i do |
| 03:07.57 | Xinhuan | make a Route with it from cart_treasure |
| 03:08.07 | bigzero | cart_treasure tracks them? |
| 03:08.11 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 03:08.14 | bigzero | nice |
| 03:08.15 | Xinhuan | cart_data has a full list |
| 03:08.35 | Xinhuan | gatherer also tracks treasure |
| 03:08.53 | Xinhuan | gatherer only tracks herbs/ore/treasure though |
| 03:08.55 | Xinhuan | no fish, no gas |
| 03:09.01 | bigzero | meh, i don't care about treasure... just didn't want to sound weird asking about bloods straight up |
| 03:09.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ... to Xinhuan, i don't think that's weird |
| 03:09.48 | Xinhuan | i dunno about you, but i'm almost exalted with dire maul |
| 03:09.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Mr. I'm-going-to-get-shen'drala-exalted |
| 03:09.57 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 03:10.02 | bigzero | nice, grats |
| 03:10.15 | bigzero | my server is kinda low on pristine black diamonds |
| 03:10.54 | bigzero | but now i ran into a little problem... i have like 25ish librams in a guild bank and my roommate requested that I transfer servers :-/ |
| 03:11.29 | Xinhuan | use them up first |
| 03:11.39 | Xinhuan | spam /2 with WTB pristine |
| 03:11.39 | bigzero | that's the problem... no diamonds on ah |
| 03:12.08 | Xinhuan | i can't even server xfer anyway, only 10k gold allowed, limit lol |
| 03:12.27 | bigzero | more like <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< |
| 03:12.34 | Sole | what bugs is programs who show you one thing when youre editing and then add their own margins when printing (or print preview) |
| 03:12.47 | Xinhuan | oh hey, i added an FAQ to gathermate too |
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| 03:13.04 | NightHawkTheSane | "a FAQ" |
| 03:13.07 | bigzero | haha, nice... in-game faq |
| 03:13.09 | Cryect | should have instead added a test to see if they are smart enough to use your addon |
| 03:13.21 | Cryect | give them like a math quiz on EM |
| 03:13.28 | Xinhuan | see, if the aceopt table format is expanded to include |
| 03:13.32 | Xinhuan | type="image" |
| 03:13.37 | Xinhuan | i could put in images |
| 03:13.38 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 03:13.38 | Cryect | If they can't cluster points by hand then they can't use the clustering part etc! |
| 03:15.53 | Sole | gathermate huh |
| 03:16.30 | Sole | Xinhuan probably put in some crazy devilry once again |
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| 03:17.14 | Xinhuan | yes, i added code so that if your name is Sole, it deletes all your gear :) |
| 03:17.19 | Cryect | nice |
| 03:17.23 | Cryect | good addition |
| 03:17.30 | Sole | that could be handy |
| 03:17.50 | Sole | but seriously wtf is up with MS Word and margins |
| 03:17.58 | Xinhuan | (don't ask me why deleting items isn't a protected function) |
| 03:18.03 | Sole | I tell it I dont want margins but its like a little kid and says no |
| 03:18.46 | Cryect | you referring to the default 1.5" page margins now a days? |
| 03:18.46 | Sole | 1.0" |
| 03:18.46 | Cryect | I'm confused why they have increased the default page margin size in one of the versions |
| 03:18.46 | bigzero | it's always had that problem |
| 03:18.46 | Xinhuan | its to do with your printer |
| 03:18.46 | Xinhuan | you can't set the margin to lower than your printer's printable margin lol |
| 03:18.46 | bigzero | actually printers tend to leave smaller margins than what word does |
| 03:18.48 | Cryect | margins are limited by what your printer can print |
| 03:18.54 | bigzero | that's what i noticed anyway |
| 03:19.10 | Sole | but see I want an image as a background (letterhead and purty little things on the side) |
| 03:19.14 | Sole | and I need it to take up the whole page |
| 03:19.17 | Sole | no damned margins |
| 03:19.42 | Cryect | use like a PDF print driver |
| 03:19.43 | Xinhuan | then make that image have text go through it |
| 03:19.44 | bigzero | sole, maybe you can cheat and tell your printer you are using a different size paper |
| 03:19.46 | Cryect | that should be set to allow you no margins |
| 03:19.51 | Xinhuan | its an image option |
| 03:20.04 | Xinhuan | you can instruct the image not to follow margin settings |
| 03:20.22 | Xinhuan | its one of the text-flow options |
| 03:20.24 | Sole | lol I made a text box and set the image as teh background :P |
| 03:20.31 | Xinhuan | to instruct how text should flow around the image |
| 03:20.44 | Sole | I created the image as an A4 in photoshop but when I import to word it doesnt like it |
| 03:20.48 | Xinhuan | and its the positioning options sub-tab |
| 03:20.54 | Sole | thansk xin |
| 03:20.58 | Sole | I'll check it out now |
| 03:21.42 | Xinhuan | so, i just found out that inserting a node into a clustered route is in theory, easy on paper |
| 03:21.51 | Xinhuan | but the code is a nightmare of loops |
| 03:22.29 | Sole | whats this clustering business? |
| 03:22.48 | Sole | you pick nodes and put them into a cluster - aka route? |
| 03:23.03 | Sole | and then gathermade draws purty little arrows telling you where to go in a loop de loop |
| 03:23.23 | Sole | s/gathermade/GatherMate/ |
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| 03:24.54 | potemkin | how do get the text color of the units class |
| 03:25.20 | Sole | its a global variable |
| 03:25.24 | dylanm | potemkin: RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 03:25.25 | Sole | the name of which I cant recall |
| 03:25.27 | Xinhuan | look in Fonts.XML |
| 03:25.28 | Sole | ^ that one |
| 03:25.34 | potemkin | kk ty |
| 03:25.35 | Xinhuan | in the default ui |
| 03:25.44 | dylanm | Then .WARRIOR and so on |
| 03:25.57 | Sole | and you get a table as a value |
| 03:26.29 | Sole | {r, g, b} as far as I remember, or is there an alpha in there as well for the class colors? |
| 03:28.01 | Sole | so I just had a scary thought |
| 03:28.07 | Sole | patch 2.4 launch day |
| 03:29.20 | Sole | Xinhuan: I dont see an option to stop the image from obeying margins |
| 03:29.29 | Xinhuan | there should be hmm |
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| 03:29.39 | Xinhuan | can't you just drag the image halfway offscreen? |
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| 03:30.42 | Sole | lemme try |
| 03:31.21 | Sole | nope |
| 03:31.29 | Sole | I got rid of hte side margins |
| 03:31.35 | Sole | but word puts up a margin at the bottom |
| 03:37.14 | potemkin | how do i use |
| 03:37.15 | potemkin | stuff like |
| 03:37.16 | potemkin | |cffffffff |
| 03:37.18 | potemkin | to color text |
| 03:37.23 | potemkin | cant find documentation on it |
| 03:38.00 | Wobin | Xinhuan: AceConfigDialog-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua:1219: AceConfigRegistry-3.0:ValidateOptionsTable(): GatherMate.args.importing.args.GatherMateData.args.desc.type: unknown type 'description' |
| 03:38.10 | Wobin | Just trying to load up GatherMate at first time |
| 03:38.23 | Xinhuan | hmm, you have an old copy of ace3 |
| 03:38.27 | Wobin | aha |
| 03:38.28 | Xinhuan | go update |
| 03:38.52 | Xinhuan | type="description" was added to the spec about a week ago |
| 03:38.58 | Wobin | hm, 59415 |
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| 03:44.42 | Quezacolt_ | potemkin, see http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences |
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| 03:51.18 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks for resolving COW-2 ckknight |
| 03:53.01 | Tinyboom | ckknight: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB-194 |
| 03:54.53 | Xinhuan | so wobin |
| 03:54.55 | Xinhuan | any issues? |
| 03:56.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: seems the anchor point is set up wrong for the fix of COW-2, no matter if i select bottom left or bottom right, it always points inwards, thus looking the same except for very small tooltips |
| 03:56.22 | CIA-9 | 03scorpio0920 * r59416 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.tw.lua: |
| 03:56.22 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 03:56.22 | CIA-9 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 03:56.53 | sag_ich_nicht | (i.e. it's expanding wrong it should probably be expanding outwards instead of inwards) |
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| 03:58.33 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley, how many more tickets are there before ace3 goes RC1? |
| 03:58.48 | Nargiddley | its not even gone beta yet |
| 03:58.56 | Xinhuan | well, beta then |
| 03:59.16 | Xinhuan | aren't half the issues i see on jira already resolved? |
| 03:59.26 | Nargiddley | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE/fixforversion/10012 |
| 04:00.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/COW-60 |
| 04:01.44 | sag_ich_nicht | also adjust button behaviour is very weird for it |
| 04:02.13 | Xinhuan | i mean Nargiddley, it was initially aimed for end of 2007 ;d |
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| 04:02.47 | Nargiddley | theres no issues left fod AceConfigDialog, thats about all I have control over :P |
| 04:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/COW-61 |
| 04:03.14 | Xinhuan | who decides when it goes beta? |
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| 04:16.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: ur mom |
| 04:19.27 | Daemona | hmmm rolling restarts on eu-realms? anyone know why? strafe cast bug? |
| 04:19.57 | ulic | US realms too |
| 04:20.00 | Bruners | was major lag issues earlyer today |
| 04:20.47 | Bruners | so im guessing that has something to do with it |
| 04:21.09 | Ironhand | can someone tell me how to reduce the movement speed of the realtime graphs in Recount? |
| 04:21.28 | Bruners | Ironhand: stop doing dmg or whatever creating data? |
| 04:22.02 | Ironhand | I don't think that would even stop them, tbh |
| 04:22.24 | Ironhand | but the point is more to let them move slower while actually in combat, in other words to condense the graph shown |
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| 04:46.38 | Xinhuan | wtb option to hide InFlight's bar because Quartz already shows it |
| 04:47.24 | ulic | so turn off quartz :) |
| 04:47.26 | Xinhuan | where's that slacker nymbia |
| 04:52.07 | Xinhuan | lol quartz's castbar for inflight |
| 04:52.11 | Xinhuan | doesn't survive zoning |
| 04:52.23 | Xinhuan | (when you zone thru the EPL portal on a flight) |
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| 05:01.47 | Ironhand | is there a way with just Grid for party frames (PitBull used for player/target/focus) to figure out who is party leader in a 5 man? |
| 05:04.05 | Ironhand | (other than asking) |
| 05:06.58 | CIA-9 | 03bobblybook * r59417 10ShamanBuffBars/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:06.58 | CIA-9 | ShamanBuffBars: initial commit |
| 05:06.58 | CIA-9 | - Rows of buttons for your shaman's shield spells and weapon buffs. |
| 05:08.03 | kenlyric | Ironhand: doesn't the default sort put them in the same order as the game does? |
| 05:08.37 | kenlyric | I guess maybe I never noticed how it did. |
| 05:11.51 | Ironhand | nope, doesn't seem to |
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| 05:13.20 | chiper | uhhh... this is weird. pitbull suddenly lacks any portraits |
| 05:13.42 | chiper | ah, there we go. module got disabled somehow |
| 05:17.29 | Bruners | rofl, my pet does more dmg that the mage and warlock in this pug |
| 05:17.45 | bigzero | like a raid pug? |
| 05:17.54 | Bruners | heroic ramparts |
| 05:18.24 | bigzero | oo, always wanted to know if the daily heroics are the same for all realms |
| 05:18.36 | bigzero | ramps is today's daily on yours? |
| 05:18.41 | Bruners | no idea |
| 05:18.46 | Bruners | always forget to check |
| 05:18.50 | bigzero | lol |
| 05:18.51 | Bruners | was bm yesterday |
| 05:18.56 | bigzero | same |
| 05:18.58 | Bruners | and i forgot to pick it up:P |
| 05:19.02 | Xinhuan | today's heroic is Steam vaults as of right now, on my server (US blackrock) |
| 05:19.27 | Gngsk | anyone know how to link a recipe for a profession you don't have? I use to use manufac snoop for it but it's been busted since bt 3.1 |
| 05:19.33 | bigzero | hmmm, nope, ramps is on spirestone US... figured it's server wide daily |
| 05:19.53 | bigzero | Gngsk, make your own link? |
| 05:20.17 | sdouble | Gngsk, loot links replacement does it. |
| 05:20.19 | sdouble | one moment |
| 05:20.21 | Gngsk | hmm, yeah, but how? |
| 05:20.26 | bigzero | maybe i should commit the lib that makes recipe links by name |
| 05:20.45 | sdouble | it's called LinksList |
| 05:21.24 | bigzero | but you need to have seen the recipe before to link it |
| 05:21.25 | Gngsk | what I'd really love, is something like ludwig's tab completion |
| 05:21.34 | Gngsk | where you can do like [recipe: mon<tab>] |
| 05:21.46 | Gngsk | or w/e |
| 05:21.52 | sdouble | there's a part in LinksList that does it |
| 05:21.56 | sdouble | but it's separate |
| 05:22.01 | sdouble | called QuickLinks I think |
| 05:22.47 | Gngsk | curse or something? |
| 05:23.21 | sdouble | wowinterface |
| 05:23.26 | sdouble | looking for it now |
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| 05:24.13 | Gngsk | k, thx |
| 05:24.15 | Gngsk | appreciate it |
| 05:24.30 | Gngsk | I really wish nymbia would fix manufac snoop though! |
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| 05:28.10 | Bruners | this is really something to write history about |
| 05:28.20 | Bruners | hunter pet doing more dmg than a mage and a warlock |
| 05:30.35 | CIA-9 | 03parnic * r59418 10IceHUD/IceBarElement.lua: |
| 05:30.35 | CIA-9 | IceHUD: |
| 05:30.35 | CIA-9 | - moved text alignment options into the "text settings" options subset...durr |
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| 05:35.51 | CIA-9 | 03bobblybook * r59419 10ShamanBuffBars/: |
| 05:35.51 | CIA-9 | ShamanBuffBars: |
| 05:35.51 | CIA-9 | - Setting external properties |
| 05:39.35 | Wobin | Xinhuan: none so far =) |
| 05:47.35 | Estil | blah. |
| 05:47.41 | Estil | warriors are so ridiculous :( |
| 05:48.12 | Bruners | wow, keyboard movers really exists |
| 05:48.38 | Bruners | i was sure it was just a myth |
| 05:52.53 | CIA-9 | 03parnic * r59420 10IceHUD/IceBarElement.lua: |
| 05:52.53 | CIA-9 | IceHUD: |
| 05:52.53 | CIA-9 | - since DruidMana bar uses an estimation of available mana, hide the text customization options |
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| 06:15.14 | CIA-9 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 06:15.14 | CIA-9 | - koKR update |
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| 06:42.38 | Orionshock | ok.. how to send a whisper to someone w/o /whoing the name each time.. and w/o spamming the chat fram with "player not found" .... |
| 06:45.15 | tinderbox | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.39 | Orionshock | tinderbox: try /msg lua_bot lua> ... |
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| 06:45.57 | Tem | attempt to compare number with nil |
| 06:45.59 | tinderbox | thanks |
| 06:46.07 | Orionshock | clad|sleep: likes to move it in and out of the room alot due to abuse |
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| 06:53.06 | Xinhuan | [1/26 14:42:29] <Orionshock> ok.. how to send a whisper to someone w/o /whoing the name each time.. and w/o spamming the chat fram with "player not found" .... |
| 06:53.11 | Xinhuan | not possible |
| 06:53.15 | Xinhuan | there is a workaround |
| 06:53.24 | Orionshock | friends list? |
| 06:53.29 | Xinhuan | where you add that person to your friends list, wait for FRIENDS_LIST_UPDATE, etc |
| 06:53.33 | Xinhuan | but you'll get system message spam |
| 06:53.49 | Xinhuan | where you have to filter out the ones caused by your addon, but not filter out the ones normally added |
| 06:54.13 | Xinhuan | or if you're limited to just your guild, you can do GuildRoster() |
| 06:54.19 | Orionshock | hehe.. just was thinking... |
| 06:54.19 | Xinhuan | wait for GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 06:54.27 | Xinhuan | libroster already does this |
| 06:54.40 | Xinhuan | if you go with this approach, you need to disable the guildcontrol panel from updating every X seconds |
| 06:54.49 | Xinhuan | by hooking one of the functions |
| 06:55.04 | Orionshock | i could have my addon listne for trade chatter and when ever an update comes though, it yells at the trade channel once, and from there do whispers... |
| 06:56.05 | Orionshock | ... |
| 06:56.26 | Orionshock | wtb frame:RegisterForGlobalAddonComms( distro ) |
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| 07:05.15 | tinderbox | don't you just love when you get called afk in the middle of a big refactoring and then forget where you were? |
| 07:05.58 | potemkin | whats arg1 named in the wrapper of function of OnMouseDown |
| 07:06.12 | potemkin | wrapper function of onmousedown |
| 07:07.02 | potemkin | o |
| 07:07.02 | potemkin | button |
| 07:08.25 | Xinhuan | function(self, button) |
| 07:08.46 | Xinhuan | button is "LeftButton", "RightButton", "MiddleButton", "Button4" or "Button5" |
| 07:13.09 | theoddone33 | keen 2.0 |
| 07:13.13 | potemkin | is registeforclicks only needed in xml |
| 07:13.14 | theoddone33 | wrong channel |
| 07:13.27 | potemkin | i didnt registerforclicks in lua on a frame and it worked fine |
| 07:14.39 | Xinhuan | the default <Button> object already has RegisterForClicks("LeftButton") |
| 07:14.49 | Xinhuan | if you need more than that, you have to override it |
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| 07:15.44 | potemkin | the list on wowwiki says u can only do |
| 07:16.00 | potemkin | leftbuttonup, rightbuttonup, leftbuttondown...etc. |
| 07:16.08 | Xinhuan | yeah something like that |
| 07:16.32 | potemkin | o it defaults leftbuttonup |
| 07:16.37 | Xinhuan | i'm just saying the default only has LeftButtonup registered |
| 07:16.52 | potemkin | hm |
| 07:17.35 | potemkin | thats just for buttons |
| 07:17.37 | potemkin | what about frames |
| 07:17.45 | potemkin | o wait frames dont have clicks |
| 07:18.09 | Xinhuan | correct, unless you register for it |
| 07:18.22 | Xinhuan | for dragging frames mainly |
| 07:18.38 | potemkin | hm |
| 07:18.42 | potemkin | i didnt register for clicks |
| 07:18.44 | potemkin | and this still worked |
| 07:18.48 | potemkin | frame:SetScript("OnMouseDown",function() if(arg1 == "LeftButton" and IsShiftKeyDown()) then this:StartMoving() end end) |
| 07:19.06 | Xinhuan | if it works, its all good |
| 07:20.15 | potemkin | maybe it autoregisters or something dunno |
| 07:21.01 | bigzero | Xinhuan, how long did it take you to code Cart_Routes? |
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| 07:34.29 | Xinhuan | uh not very long really |
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| 07:34.33 | Xinhuan | about 2 days |
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| 07:38.05 | tinderbox | does the # operator work for tables-as-dictionaries ? |
| 07:38.10 | tinderbox | for some reason it seems to be always returning 0 |
| 07:38.23 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:39.20 | Xinhuan | #t will always return an integer, where t[n] is non-nil and t[n+1] is nil |
| 07:39.24 | Xinhuan | that's the defined behavior |
| 07:39.42 | Xinhuan | so if a numeric-indexe table has holes, its behavior can be unexpected |
| 07:39.59 | tinderbox | what's the standard way to see if my table-as-dictionary is empty? |
| 07:40.05 | Xinhuan | next(t) |
| 07:40.09 | Xinhuan | if it returns nil, its empty |
| 07:40.14 | Xinhuan | otherwise it returns the first key |
| 07:40.33 | Xinhuan | next(t, key), will return the next key, value pair after that key |
| 07:40.34 | tinderbox | does that alter the state of my table in terms of future looping, etc? |
| 07:40.35 | Xinhuan | and so on |
| 07:40.39 | tinderbox | ah gotcha |
| 07:40.48 | Xinhuan | you may safely alter keys already iterated over |
| 07:41.00 | Xinhuan | but if you alter keys that have not been iterated over, behavior is undefined |
| 07:41.17 | Xinhuan | this applies to both pairs() and next() |
| 07:42.12 | Xinhuan | for k, v in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end |
| 07:42.13 | Orionshock | ah yes, but can you sort a dictionary? |
| 07:42.15 | Xinhuan | that will empty a table |
| 07:42.34 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, only if you build a custom iterator, and store a sorted version temporarily in another table |
| 07:47.15 | Xinhuan | note that for [varlist] in [iterator] do loops are actually invoking a function call on every loop, so if you can do numeric loops, its far faster |
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| 07:56.17 | tek_DS | wheeeeee! |
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| 07:57.12 | tek_DS | <---- IRC on a Nintendo DS |
| 07:57.18 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 07:57.21 | Orionshock | isn't colored text a no no on freenode? |
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| 07:57.30 | Xinhuan | since when is it a nono? |
| 07:57.35 | tek_DS | bitch to type tho |
| 07:57.40 | Xinhuan | i don't see a +C on the channel |
| 07:57.45 | Xinhuan | that prohibits it |
| 07:57.52 | tek_DS | +cock |
| 07:58.16 | tek_DS | Kael sucks |
| 07:58.25 | Orionshock | what's +c do? |
| 07:58.40 | tek_DS | bend over orion |
| 07:58.47 | Xinhuan | +C stops color codes, +c stops channel ctcps |
| 07:59.48 | tek_DS | if CIA didn't use color I'd say set it |
| 08:00.24 | Xinhuan | CHANMODES=bdeIq,k,lfJD,cgijLmnPQrRstz |
| 08:00.32 | Xinhuan | this server supports more weird stuff than i thought it does |
| 08:00.38 | tek_DS | okey I've had my fun |
| 08:00.42 | Xinhuan | doesn't support +C apparently |
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| 08:05.51 | CIA-9 | 03tinderbox * r59422 10Gemologist/ (. Gemologist.lua Gemologist.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 08:05.51 | CIA-9 | Gemologist: Major refactoring/cleanup |
| 08:05.51 | CIA-9 | - Complete refactoring of saved variables to honor Ace-style profile |
| 08:05.51 | CIA-9 | system |
| 08:05.51 | CIA-9 | - Cleaned up table-related code (thanks Xinhuan!) |
| 08:05.52 | CIA-9 | - Refactored options to be more consistent |
| 08:05.54 | CIA-9 | - Better handling of first-run and edge cases |
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| 08:14.32 | tinderbox | would it be possible to get a project created on the wowace jira for my mod? |
| 08:14.41 | tinderbox | or is that only for "big time" mods? |
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| 08:22.10 | Orionshock | ok, wrt AceSerilizer3, what's better making 4 locals each time a message comes in OR passing the deserilize(msg) to a function and using select() to parse it? http://ace.pastey.net/81313 |
| 08:22.53 | tinderbox | Xinhuan: is the node clustering stuff for routes available on svn? |
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| 08:27.50 | Xinhuan | no |
| 08:28.24 | tejing | question: does anyone know if druidbar is likely to be fixed soon (as far as directly switching between forms... it doesn't handle that too well atm) |
| 08:31.56 | tejing | oh hmm... my mistake. it seems the latest version does deal with it :-P |
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| 08:46.56 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
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| 09:05.57 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r59424 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: |
| 09:05.57 | CIA-9 | BigWigs: |
| 09:05.57 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update. |
| 09:05.57 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r59423 10GuildFilter/GuildFilter.lua: GuildFilter: searchbox now behaves better, please test kergoth :) |
| 09:07.24 | Zhinjio | wtf |
| 09:07.30 | Zhinjio | network nonsense latency tonight. |
| 09:10.34 | Zhinjio | am I here? |
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| 09:14.06 | Orionshock | no Zhinjio |
| 09:16.25 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 09:17.07 | Funkeh` | This mail contained a virus or a file violating the mail policy. The file has been repaired or deleted; Good Day, man! Keanu Reeves fucks Angeline Jolie in her big ass. In your attachment |
| 09:17.46 | Neebler | hell yea. run the video.exe |
| 09:22.29 | Olison | i don't see why anybody shouldn't |
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| 09:36.54 | tlund | for Relegation, is there supposed to be som sort of visual feedback when it reports a spammer? when you do it manually, WOW says "Complaint Registered.", but I dont get that feedback when I expect it? |
| 09:38.26 | Funkeh` | maybe it hides it |
| 09:39.08 | Funkeh` | who gave you permission to talk Fisker- |
| 09:39.12 | Funkeh` | back in your cage |
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| 09:39.51 | Fisker- | HLAP |
| 09:41.32 | Shirik|Ecole | bthat function name is way too long |
| 09:41.37 | Shirik|Ecole | omg |
| 09:41.42 | Shirik|Ecole | definitely need to scroll all the way down |
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| 09:56.20 | Bruners | anyone here using beryl and emerald? |
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| 10:32.10 | Zariel | Bruners, i used too |
| 10:32.21 | Zariel | That got merged and is now Compiz-Fusion btw |
| 10:33.42 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r59425 10AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc): |
| 10:33.42 | CIA-9 | AlarLib |
| 10:33.42 | CIA-9 | Remove a rare error message due to bad parameters to an internal function |
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| 10:36.35 | Bruners | Zariel: got it to work when changed to compiz :) |
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| 10:43.56 | Bruners | is there a way to make wow launch a different config.wtf file? |
| 10:44.11 | thul | led zeppelin rocks |
| 10:44.24 | Bruners | like wow.exe -c config_ubuntu.wtf |
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| 10:48.45 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 10:48.48 | Shirik|Ecole | you write a shell script :P |
| 10:49.29 | Shirik|Ecole | #!/bin/bash rn config.wtf config_old.wtf rn config_ubuntu.wtf config.wtf wow.exe |
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| 10:55.09 | Bruners | that could work |
| 10:55.33 | Grum | Bruners: just symlink :P |
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| 11:16.07 | Camcii | Anyone know where i can get Lunaar's UI? :P |
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| 11:24.22 | Wobin | I used to use compiz-fusion |
| 11:24.31 | Wobin | but it didn't handle dual monitors |
| 11:24.37 | Wobin | (or at least it didn't back then) |
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| 11:25.07 | Bruners | working if you are running twinview |
| 11:25.46 | Wobin | hm, that's two xwin sessions though, isn't it? |
| 11:26.07 | Zariel | It does now wobin, i used it |
| 11:26.22 | Wobin | really? I shall switch back =) |
| 11:26.23 | Zariel | No, Twinview is one x server |
| 11:26.32 | Zariel | got an nvidia card? |
| 11:26.34 | Wobin | I'm using xinerama |
| 11:26.36 | Wobin | yeah |
| 11:26.43 | Zariel | setup x to use twinview |
| 11:26.44 | Xinhuan | i should really taboo that word |
| 11:27.05 | Wobin | Xin? =) |
| 11:27.53 | _neuron_ | xinerama = twinview basically |
| 11:28.07 | Zariel | Twinview is nvidias own implementation of xinerama |
| 11:28.10 | _neuron_ | twinview = nvidia's version |
| 11:28.11 | Zariel | afaik |
| 11:28.23 | _neuron_ | it is :P |
| 11:28.35 | Zariel | i want to use wmii but it doesnt support twinview |
| 11:28.42 | _neuron_ | does the same thing but is a bit faster with their custom drivers, and is configured a bit differently |
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| 11:30.07 | Wobin | okay, resetting |
| 11:30.08 | Wobin | brb |
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| 11:31.24 | Wobin | so far fairly painless |
| 11:31.31 | Camcii | anyone can suggest a nice UI package? |
| 11:31.39 | Camcii | getting bored of photek UI ^^ |
| 11:31.47 | Wobin | hm, how much of compiz is in the standard ubuntu package now? |
| 11:31.54 | Shirik|Ecole | pop quiz, I'm using my initials as part of a protocol I'm writing |
| 11:31.54 | Wobin | I seem to recall it had a cut down version or something |
| 11:31.56 | Zariel | compiz-fusion is in |
| 11:32.01 | Shirik|Ecole | should I write |
| 11:32.04 | Shirik|Ecole | {(byte)0x4D, (byte)0x50, (byte)0x44, (byte)0x42}; |
| 11:32.24 | Shirik|Ecole | or {(byte) 'M', (byte) 'P', (byte) 'D', (byte)'B'}; |
| 11:32.26 | Wobin | Shirik|Ecole: Shoot the hostage. |
| 11:32.56 | Shirik|Ecole | ah took me a second to remember what movie that was from |
| 11:33.11 | Camcii | gief UI http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=1106499&PHPSESSID=937800057d280e9d3dc0daa0bdc597d7 :( |
| 11:33.33 | Shirik|Ecole | ugly imo |
| 11:33.52 | Shirik|Ecole | but I'm strange |
| 11:33.55 | Shirik|Ecole | I use Blizzard unit frames |
| 11:34.43 | Shirik|Ecole | someone answer me! |
| 11:35.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Do I use the letters or the numbers. I like the first because it's more cryptic, but what if nobody ever figures it out? |
| 11:36.01 | Wobin | Shirik|Ecole: Are you playing the eternal balancing act between 'cool easter egg' and 'user stupidity'? |
| 11:36.08 | Wobin | Cause you -know- which one will win |
| 11:36.15 | Shirik|Ecole | users will never see this really |
| 11:36.18 | Shirik|Ecole | well, it's a library |
| 11:36.24 | Wobin | So does it matter? =) |
| 11:36.32 | Shirik|Ecole | surely someone will look at the source |
| 11:36.36 | Shirik|Ecole | and try to decode the protocol |
| 11:36.40 | _neuron_ | heh, friend of mine wrote a internal comuncation prog for a school once, the school picks it up and picks it apart in some study groups, his protocol's handshake is still HELLODAVE |
| 11:36.48 | Shirik|Ecole | Yeah that's exactly what this is |
| 11:36.53 | Shirik|Ecole | this is a preamble for a communications protocol |
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| 11:37.13 | Shirik|Ecole | so if someone were to, say, run ethereal on it, perhaps they'll see "MPDB" in their log |
| 11:37.17 | Shirik|Ecole | and be like "wtf?" |
| 11:37.31 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 11:37.49 | Ellipsis | hai2Pkekyo| |
| 11:37.52 | Shirik|Ecole | (the people using my library will know what MPDB stands for) |
| 11:38.27 | Shirik|Ecole | It's kinda awesome that 'M' never appears in the protocol, and 'PDB' will never be in sequence like that |
| 11:38.32 | Shirik|Ecole | perfect preamble |
| 11:39.11 | Camcii | emo |
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| 11:41.48 | Shirik|Ecole | Things I don't want to see in a formal documentation of an API: |
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| 11:41.58 | Shirik|Ecole | FIXME I think this refers to FOPEN(3)/SETBUF(3)/FREAD(3)/FCLOSE(3) |
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| 11:42.56 | Orionshock | MPDB? Multipal Personality Database? |
| 11:44.16 | Shirik|Ecole | * @author Matthew P. Del Buono |
| 11:50.44 | Wobin | yay |
| 11:50.47 | Wobin | desktop cube |
| 11:50.48 | Wobin | <2 |
| 11:50.50 | Wobin | er |
| 11:50.51 | Wobin | +1 |
| 11:51.11 | Wobin | What's the P stand for? |
| 11:51.26 | Shirik|Ecole | Paul |
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| 11:51.36 | Wobin | No other disciples? =) |
| 11:51.46 | Shirik|Ecole | well technically my full name is |
| 11:51.52 | Shirik|Ecole | Matthew Paul Christopher Del Buono |
| 11:51.54 | Shirik|Ecole | that enough? |
| 11:52.09 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 11:52.29 | robotusch | :O |
| 11:52.44 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 11:55.00 | Funkeh` | AAAAAA why does this damn frame jump around when I try to scale it, only after I've changed its position from the default, it works fine at default grr |
| 11:55.48 | Shirik|Ecole | probably because of the anchor point |
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| 11:56.26 | Shirik|Ecole | iirc if it's anchored at CENTER it will remain in place; if it's anchored by other points it will get craziness |
| 11:56.39 | Shirik|Ecole | mostly because the coordinate system is changing when you change scales |
| 11:56.40 | Pkekyo| | lmfao, some guy got out of military service because he had his arse full of hair |
| 11:56.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ?? |
| 11:57.15 | ag` | well most men do, so it must've been real bad then |
| 11:57.35 | Pkekyo| | he managed to convince the military doctors that it was contagious, and he could take out the entire battalion |
| 11:57.48 | ag` | lol no |
| 11:57.51 | ag` | what country |
| 11:58.02 | ag` | they must have sucky doctors employed in their military :P |
| 11:58.13 | Funkeh` | Shirik|Ecole, I basically do an x, y = :GetCenter() and then a :SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", x,y) with normal scaling |
| 11:58.55 | Pkekyo| | ag`: norway....the doctors tend to be very good actually...though in this specific case, they must've been wearing their arse for a hat |
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| 11:59.24 | ag` | yeah norway doctors should be ok Pkekyo| |
| 11:59.31 | ag` | dunno what the hell then |
| 12:00.07 | Pkekyo| | I'd say...half a gallon of ether :P |
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| 12:04.03 | Pkekyo| | would be fun to drink half a gallon of ether, I'd imagine |
| 12:05.00 | Pkekyo| | anyone tried that yet? |
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| 12:05.31 | nevcairiel | i dont think you would get past the first sip =P |
| 12:05.36 | Wobin | note to self: Windowshading WoW causes freeze |
| 12:05.52 | Pkekyo| | windowshading? |
| 12:05.55 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 12:05.57 | Shirik|Ecole | bad idea |
| 12:05.58 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: o'rly? |
| 12:06.19 | Wobin | where you doubleclick on the titlebar and the window 'rolls up' into it |
| 12:06.25 | nevcairiel | yarly! |
| 12:07.05 | Pkekyo| | whyes? |
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| 12:07.20 | Pkekyo| | wouldn't imagine the effect would come straight away |
| 12:09.02 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 12:09.28 | Orionshock | anyone here work on the options table parsing for ace3? need to know if validate get's passed an info table |
| 12:10.01 | Shirik|Ecole | if it does, it does so without an apostrophe :P |
| 12:10.04 | nevcairiel | everything gets the info table |
| 12:10.05 | Pkekyo| | bah, the bloody kenyans are at it again..they upgraded from machetes to bows and arrows now /shrug |
| 12:12.12 | Xinhuan | whatcha mean Orionshock? |
| 12:12.38 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: every function in the spec gets the info table, would be rather pointless if that wasnt the case.. :P |
| 12:12.50 | Xinhuan | i've written enough option tables to last a lifetime |
| 12:16.30 | Orionshock | hehe, reading over the wiki on it "Don't worry about CPU at all. We are taking about user-initiated actions. Anything faster than a 10th of a second is faster than anyone can really notice." .... i hvae a config window with over 300 check boxes :D |
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| 12:16.45 | Orionshock | and dear god does it lag |
| 12:16.51 | Wobin | ...why? |
| 12:17.05 | Orionshock | haven't sat down to figure it out yet... |
| 12:17.14 | Wobin | no why 300 checkboxes? |
| 12:17.25 | Orionshock | and that perticular window i don't care about revamping any time soon... |
| 12:17.39 | Orionshock | that option screen has everything you can craft for a given skill listed. |
| 12:18.23 | Wobin | maybe you can filter that better |
| 12:18.30 | Orionshock | and there is no way to narrow down that list with out parsing a whole shitload more information before and during the complieing of said list. |
| 12:20.50 | sb_ | hm kergoth - do you need some addon loader for GuildFilter? |
| 12:21.53 | sb_ | throws some errors until i type /guildfilter to 'load' it |
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| 12:35.04 | naig | good day |
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| 12:35.56 | naig | i'm having problems with GridStatusIncomingHeals, reports can't find instance of IncomingHealsLib-1.0 |
| 12:36.11 | naig | should have it installed and it's included in the addon ofc |
| 12:36.24 | naig | any idea where to start digging it up? |
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| 12:41.33 | Pkekyo| | "A dinner party? Can't we do anything fun, like driving up to the border and throwing stuff at canadians?" :P |
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| 12:48.18 | CraiZE | Hai :) |
| 12:48.37 | CraiZE | Could someone tell me which addon tells the DPS difference in weapons, etc (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/2/24/815747/WoWScrnShot_012608_124205.jpg) |
| 12:50.27 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, what you need is a faux scroll frame |
| 12:50.32 | Xinhuan | that shows only 10 items at a time ;p |
| 12:50.35 | CraiZE | faux scroll frame ? |
| 12:50.38 | CIA-8 | 03ixchael * r59426 10Unsolicited/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:50.38 | CIA-8 | Unsolicited: |
| 12:50.38 | CIA-8 | - The list of banned words is now configurable. |
| 12:50.38 | CIA-8 | - The General chat channel may now be filtered for spam (filtered by default). |
| 12:50.38 | CIA-8 | - The Trade chat channel my now be filtered for spam (off by default). |
| 12:50.39 | CIA-8 | - It is now possible to selectively toggle filtering of: whispers, public speech (e.g. yell), General chat channel, and Trade chat channel. |
| 12:50.39 | Orionshock | naa |
| 12:50.44 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r59427 10/branches/StatBlocks/: StatBlocks: create dir |
| 12:50.45 | Xinhuan | too bad, aceconfig doesn't have that ! |
| 12:50.48 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59428 10StatBlocks/ (. StatBlocks.lua StatBlocks.toc): StatBlocks: doesn't work |
| 12:50.50 | Orionshock | what i need is it to not suck.. but meh |
| 12:50.55 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r59429 10AlarBGHelper/ (AdditionalLibs/ AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): |
| 12:50.57 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 12:50.59 | CIA-8 | 3.3.3 |
| 12:51.01 | CIA-8 | Fixed: Frostwolf timers now work for german version too. |
| 12:51.05 | CIA-8 | Fault was Blizzard, which for some esotic reason decided to call the towers sometimes ...liche , sometimes ...licher. |
| 12:51.08 | CIA-8 | I will ask cknight to fix GloryLibg, meanwhile the workaround is inside AlarBGHelper |
| 12:51.10 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59430 10Routes/ (Routes.lua TSP.lua): |
| 12:51.12 | CIA-8 | Routes: |
| 12:51.14 | CIA-8 | - Fix callbacks not working on reloading/relogging |
| 12:51.16 | CIA-8 | - Fix clustering code path length calculation |
| 12:51.18 | CIA-8 | - Fully implement node clustering/unclustering, and make optimizing routes, add node and delete node cluster-aware |
| 12:51.23 | CIA-8 | - Insert Node is fully rewritten as a result, it can no longer perform twoopt (which wasn't used anyway) |
| 12:51.30 | Wobin | Alar is using someone elses library? |
| 12:51.32 | Wobin | omg |
| 12:51.34 | Xinhuan | LOL that commit was so 40 minutes ago |
| 12:51.44 | Orionshock | has someone fixed Atlas Loot? |
| 12:51.48 | CraiZE | yes |
| 12:51.50 | CraiZE | earlier |
| 12:51.56 | CraiZE | :P |
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| 12:53.19 | Funkeh` | still hasn't quite caught up |
| 12:53.31 | Xinhuan | its nly 40 minutes behind now |
| 12:53.38 | Xinhuan | whats statblocks do now? |
| 12:53.59 | Funkeh` | probably crash wow |
| 12:54.14 | Xinhuan | more specifically, what will it do in the future |
| 12:54.24 | Funkeh` | but what its suppsoed to do is basically like CML but individually customizable frames |
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| 12:54.49 | Funkeh` | clock memory latency |
| 12:54.53 | Pkekyo| | ~dict CML |
| 12:55.06 | Xinhuan | concurrent Master looter! |
| 12:55.17 | CraiZE | Is there an addon that can tell me the difference between gear? (i.e, -10DPS, +4 Evade, etc? |
| 12:55.27 | Xinhuan | CraiZE: wowequip |
| 12:55.36 | CraiZE | aha |
| 12:55.40 | CraiZE | equip eval worse? |
| 12:55.46 | Funkeh` | basically 4 blocks that you move around and cuztomize colour/font/size etc |
| 12:56.09 | naig | CraiZE: ratingbuster |
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| 12:56.22 | CraiZE | well whats the best |
| 12:56.28 | CraiZE | equipeval, wowequip or ratingbuster? |
| 12:56.32 | naig | i've liked rb |
| 12:56.36 | naig | not tried others |
| 12:56.43 | naig | shows the differences nicely in tooltip |
| 12:56.48 | Xinhuan | http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/WoWEquip |
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| 12:57.15 | tinderbox | the estimated health bar in pitbull seems to be really, really wrong |
| 12:57.17 | Xinhuan | think screenshot's kinda old |
| 12:57.22 | Xinhuan | its at v0.9 now |
| 12:57.37 | tinderbox | err estimated incoming heal |
| 12:58.42 | Gngsk | I can't get used to looking at gear like that |
| 12:58.49 | Gngsk | warcrafter.net uses the same layout |
| 12:59.00 | Gngsk | for whatever reason I need to see a model between |
| 12:59.14 | Xinhuan | it is identical, just the model removed |
| 12:59.19 | Gngsk | i know! |
| 12:59.24 | Xinhuan | pfft |
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| 12:59.42 | Gngsk | I think, if the item summary was between it'd look better to me |
| 12:59.42 | Xinhuan | also an ingame calculator like wowequip > a web browser like warcrafter.net or wowdigger |
| 12:59.52 | Gngsk | oh I know |
| 12:59.56 | Gngsk | I use wowequip and I think it's great |
| 12:59.59 | Gngsk | but I'm just saying |
| 13:00.11 | Gngsk | still just seems odd looking at it |
| 13:00.24 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 13:00.37 | Xinhuan | i'll show you a screenshot of v0.1 :) |
| 13:00.48 | Gngsk | heh |
| 13:00.53 | Gngsk | sure |
| 13:00.59 | Xinhuan | http://nomaam.game-host.org/forums/download.php?id=60 |
| 13:01.01 | Xinhuan | that's v0.1 |
| 13:01.26 | Xinhuan | it sucked up useless ram to create a second frame, second model and stuff |
| 13:01.32 | Fisker- | Xinhuan |
| 13:01.47 | Xinhuan | http://nomaam.game-host.org/forums/download.php?id=69 - v0.2 |
| 13:01.51 | Fisker- | can you do multiple or's in lua? |
| 13:01.56 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 13:02.01 | Fisker- | so liek |
| 13:02.11 | Fisker- | condition1 or condition2 or condition3 then is possible? |
| 13:02.12 | Xinhuan | http://nomaam.game-host.org/forums/download.php?id=73 - v0.3 |
| 13:02.17 | Xinhuan | yes Fisker- |
| 13:02.22 | Fisker- | nice |
| 13:02.33 | Xinhuan | "or" operator has the lowest operator precedence in Lua |
| 13:02.38 | Xinhuan | lower than everything else |
| 13:02.47 | Xinhuan | "and" is the second lowest |
| 13:05.53 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r59435 10ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Uses one table for all unit type options instead of one per unit type |
| 13:07.06 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r59436 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: woopsi, minor fix |
| 13:07.49 | Xinhuan | NightHawkTheSane: any issues with latest GMate ? :) |
| 13:08.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i havn't actually updated it yet :) but i'm doing it now, and i'll check it out in a minute, soon as my realm comes back up |
| 13:08.45 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, yeah I can see the progression. I just think it'd look better if the item bonus summary was between the helm to bracer and glove to trinket. but I guess it's just a personal preference |
| 13:09.37 | Gngsk | I suppose if I cared enough I could do it myself and submit a patch but I don't see that happening today |
| 13:09.41 | Xinhuan | possibly, but the button anchoring would be much harder |
| 13:09.48 | Xinhuan | since i have a variable width code |
| 13:09.48 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 13:09.51 | Xinhuan | in the options |
| 13:09.52 | Gngsk | I see |
| 13:10.03 | Xinhuan | you know how some silly language like german |
| 13:10.08 | Xinhuan | has reallllllllly looooong words? |
| 13:10.10 | Xinhuan | its for those people |
| 13:10.13 | Gngsk | haha, yeah |
| 13:10.18 | Gngsk | well, keeping it simple is always best probably |
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| 13:15.26 | sb_ | Xinhuan: whats GMate? |
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| 13:16.00 | Xinhuan | GatherMate |
| 13:16.04 | sb_ | ah %-) |
| 13:16.05 | sb_ | okay ;) |
| 13:16.32 | Xinhuan | were you thinking like.. checkmate? gday mate? |
| 13:16.53 | sb_ | mh - could also be guildmate ;p |
| 13:17.13 | sb_ | mhh - gonna install GM, Routes and Mapster on my gf's computer - wonder if she will notice :p |
| 13:17.19 | sb_ | (or kill me) |
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| 13:20.37 | Pkekyo| | does the phrase "2000 light years from..." say anyone anything? :p |
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| 13:22.49 | sb_ | meh - i think without some Mapster_GuildPosition she will notice :p |
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| 13:27.00 | sb_ | oh btw - i need some alarm clock with 2 seperate configurable alarm-timers (me and my gf - different sound would be awesome but is not necessary) - any ideas? :o |
| 13:27.46 | Olison | Mapster? i cant find a dl location for that, can you paste a link please? |
| 13:27.53 | Zariel | branches |
| 13:29.37 | ag` | the stuff isn't ready yet, so it's in branches for ultimate whine prevention |
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| 13:32.54 | Olison | i did a co, gonna try it :D |
| 13:33.09 | Olison | and will whine when something breaks, ofcourse! |
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| 13:38.47 | Xinhuan | <sb_> oh btw - i need some alarm clock with 2 seperate configurable alarm-timers (me and my gf - different sound would be awesome but is not necessary) - any ideas? :o |
| 13:38.58 | Xinhuan | yes, my idea is good: Buy 2 alarm clocks, with different sounds |
| 13:39.22 | Xinhuan | completely configurable separately! |
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| 13:44.58 | sb_ | Xinhuan: *sigh* :) |
| 13:45.20 | Xinhuan | or, leave your computer on |
| 13:45.31 | Xinhuan | and write an alarm clock program that plays WAV files on the speakers |
| 13:45.35 | Xinhuan | next to your bed :) |
| 13:45.35 | sb_ | well - or get http://www.nabaztag.com/ :p |
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| 13:45.54 | sb_ | <3 geek toy |
| 13:46.14 | Zariel | i dont see why mp3 players have alarms on, who sleeps with headphones on |
| 13:46.18 | Xinhuan | if you're too cheap you can write a ingame addon that does this and use foreverAFK to prevent logout ;p |
| 13:47.17 | sb_ | lol :p |
| 13:47.22 | Orionshock | gdi, i wish WIM would fix it's GM interface...it errors each and every time |
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| 13:52.00 | sb_ | Xinhuan - gathemate issue |
| 13:52.05 | sb_ | %-) |
| 13:52.07 | sb_ | +r |
| 13:52.11 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 13:52.57 | sb_ | if you are in netherstorm and fly out of netehrstorm (north) - so you leave the zone, there is some circle following your minimap arrow (with multiple herbs - black lotus, dreaming glory, ...) it disappears when you re-enter netherstorm zone |
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| 13:56.59 | tlund | for Relegation, is there supposed to be som sort of visual feedback when it reports a spammer? when you do it manually, WOW says "Complaint Registered.", but I dont get that feedback when I expect it? |
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| 13:57.55 | Orionshock | ... talking to a GM is.... rather odd now for me.. I DO CUSTOMER SERVICE.... and im having to talk to ANOTHER CSR... |
| 13:57.58 | Orionshock | -.- |
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| 13:59.16 | Xinhuan | sb_, i'll look into it |
| 14:00.23 | Pkekyo| | wtf...my pants has melted o.o |
| 14:02.09 | Xinhuan | too much pizza? |
| 14:02.18 | sb_ | notebook? |
| 14:02.42 | Pkekyo| | no pizza, no notebook |
| 14:03.36 | Pkekyo| | wear it when playing football, it's from sliding across the floor :p |
| 14:04.06 | Pkekyo| | frictional heat ftw |
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| 14:14.58 | Xinhuan | sb_ |
| 14:15.04 | Xinhuan | i can't quite seem to reproduce your issue |
| 14:15.08 | Xinhuan | what were your settings? |
| 14:15.51 | Xinhuan | and which version of GMate are you using (revision number) |
| 14:16.06 | Xinhuan | cos this was an old issue that was fixed a week ago |
| 14:16.12 | sb_ | mh - latest svn |
| 14:16.24 | Xinhuan | how do i reproduce it? |
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| 14:16.32 | Xinhuan | what are your show/hide settings? |
| 14:16.52 | sb_ | i will tell you later - cant login to wow at the moment, sorry :( |
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| 14:21.37 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 14:21.45 | Xinhuan | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA event causes a full minimap clear |
| 14:22.01 | nevcairiel | like it should |
| 14:22.11 | Xinhuan | your case shouldn't occur/happen at all |
| 14:22.17 | Xinhuan | [1/26 21:52:47] <sb_> if you are in netherstorm and fly out of netherstorm (north) - so you leave the zone, there is some circle following your minimap arrow (with multiple herbs - black lotus, dreaming glory, ...) it disappears when you re-enter netherstorm zone |
| 14:22.19 | sb_ | perhaps it is no new area? (north of netherstorm) |
| 14:22.26 | Xinhuan | its a new area |
| 14:22.30 | nevcairiel | you enter twisting nether, thats new |
| 14:22.31 | Xinhuan | however, nevcairiel |
| 14:22.39 | Xinhuan | you have a return statement on line 502 |
| 14:22.47 | Xinhuan | that may be why |
| 14:22.53 | nevcairiel | which file? |
| 14:22.57 | Ozguli | there's usually no one in twisting nether |
| 14:22.57 | Xinhuan | display.lua |
| 14:23.07 | nevcairiel | update |
| 14:23.11 | Xinhuan | updating |
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| 14:23.13 | nevcairiel | my file has Minimap:SetZoom(zoom) there |
| 14:23.14 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:23.27 | Xinhuan | line 519 |
| 14:23.43 | Xinhuan | clearpins(minimapPins) on line 523 doesn't get called as a consequence |
| 14:23.52 | nevcairiel | UnregisterMapEvents clears everything too |
| 14:24.19 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 14:24.37 | nevcairiel | plus, that only happens in instances |
| 14:24.39 | Xinhuan | so how did that happen |
| 14:25.21 | Xinhuan | i have a theory, let me test |
| 14:25.30 | Xinhuan | Z_C_N_A has a throttle remember? |
| 14:26.12 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 14:26.13 | nevcairiel | but |
| 14:26.23 | nevcairiel | if the nodes are not validated in the loop later |
| 14:26.26 | nevcairiel | they get removed too |
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| 14:26.49 | Xinhuan | hmm that is true |
| 14:27.04 | elusif | is there a mod that will keep track of horde i gank and horde that gank me in the world? |
| 14:27.16 | elusif | outside of bg like |
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| 14:28.31 | Xinhuan | yep sb, unreproducable |
| 14:28.38 | Xinhuan | unless you aren't using latest revision ;p |
| 14:28.52 | Grum | lua> t={["a"]=1,["b"]=2}; next( t ) |
| 14:28.52 | lua_bot | Grum: |
| 14:28.58 | Grum | lua> t={["a"]=1,["b"]=2}; print next( t ) |
| 14:28.58 | lua_bot | Grum: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "t={["a"]=1,["b"]=2}; print next( t )"]:1: '=' expected near 'next' |
| 14:29.06 | Grum | lua> t={["a"]=1,["b"]=2}; print(next( t )) |
| 14:29.06 | lua_bot | Grum: a, 1 |
| 14:29.21 | Xinhuan | latest revision has options for different colors for tracking circle for each database type |
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| 14:41.52 | Xinhuan | i tried to fly in and out of netherstorm/twisting nether 100 times, unreproducable :< |
| 14:42.01 | sb_ | hmpf :( |
| 14:42.14 | sb_ | perhaps something with Routes enabled? |
| 14:43.05 | Xinhuan | routes doesn't interact with Gathermate in any way |
| 14:43.11 | Xinhuan | except when you actually gather something (casting "Herb Gathering" for example) |
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| 14:45.02 | Zpredator | eugh, cant find addon, Clique |
| 14:45.06 | Zpredator | can anyone help? |
| 14:45.26 | Ellipsis | www.google.com |
| 14:45.30 | Zpredator | i looked. |
| 14:45.37 | Zariel | Wowi |
| 14:45.42 | Zpredator | links are all broken |
| 14:45.48 | tinderbox | is anyone familiar with the "Range" tag in DogTag-1.0 ? I can never seem to get it to return anything |
| 14:46.02 | nevcairiel | Clique is only hosted on WoWInterface |
| 14:46.05 | Zpredator | ahh well i just download somones ui pack from en curse. |
| 14:46.07 | nevcairiel | which was down a short time ago |
| 14:46.14 | Zpredator | yep. |
| 14:46.42 | Zpredator | grid + Clique :) |
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| 14:47.14 | Ozguli | now, what does Clique do? |
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| 14:47.51 | Pkekyo| | it clicks |
| 14:47.52 | Zpredator | resto druids best friend mate. |
| 14:48.11 | Zpredator | click to heal, instead of targetting then clicking heal. |
| 14:48.19 | Ozguli | ok. |
| 14:48.25 | Ozguli | I'm a priest. |
| 14:48.29 | Pkekyo| | Zpredator: does it work for other classes/spells? :) |
| 14:48.43 | Kivin | It doesn't care about class |
| 14:48.45 | Ozguli | and like to abuse lag for 10% spell haste |
| 14:48.57 | Kivin | You could use it to bind sinister strike to your target frame, probably |
| 14:49.00 | Pkekyo| | so I could fix it up to work with sheep? |
| 14:49.09 | Pkekyo| | I don't have target frames though :< |
| 14:49.14 | Zpredator | it does work with other spells. |
| 14:49.16 | Zariel | googlecode.com/p/clique |
| 14:49.16 | Kivin | Then it's quite useless to you |
| 14:49.26 | Kivin | The whole point in it is for binding clicks to your UFs |
| 14:49.36 | Pkekyo| | I don't use any UFs at all tbh :/ |
| 14:50.19 | Zpredator | umm whats the command for Clique |
| 14:50.36 | Kivin | open your spellbook |
| 14:50.57 | Zpredator | ah huh! smart man. |
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| 14:56.04 | Zpredator | is it possible, to get Clique to only work on certain frames? |
| 14:56.12 | Kivin | yes, it's in there somewhere |
| 14:56.27 | Zpredator | in Clique? |
| 14:56.30 | Kivin | yes |
| 14:56.38 | Zpredator | okay thanks |
| 14:56.44 | Orionshock | there is a button at the bottom that says "Frames" |
| 14:56.46 | Orionshock | .... |
| 14:56.46 | Kivin | By the time my :OnInitialize() function is called, any subsequent files in the .toc should have been interpreted, correct? |
| 14:56.59 | Orionshock | Kivin: yes |
| 14:57.04 | Kivin | Orionshock: thanks |
| 14:58.10 | Zpredator | Nope nothing that sayes frames. |
| 14:58.12 | Pkekyo| | "Innervate, elevate, penetrate, celebrate" |
| 14:58.27 | Orionshock | Zpredator: your blind then |
| 14:58.35 | Zpredator | I must be |
| 14:58.36 | Orionshock | i have dual screen and im looking at the button |
| 14:58.49 | Zpredator | Could it be i have an outdated version? |
| 14:59.22 | Orionshock | ... spellbook > rabbit icon > what's the title of the pop out frame, should read " Clique Rev. ##" |
| 14:59.24 | Zpredator | Because i had to download it from some random guys complications because wow interface is down |
| 15:00.24 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:01.26 | Kivin | Maybe it's an ace3 thing, but it sure appears that my :OnInitialize is occuring immediately after :NewAddon |
| 15:01.30 | Zpredator | yep lol |
| 15:01.37 | Zpredator | i just saw some images from google. |
| 15:01.43 | Zpredator | i got an older version.. |
| 15:02.04 | Orionshock | Kivin: then use OnEnable |
| 15:02.22 | Kivin | Orionshock: I'm looking for one-time initialization. Kinda defeats the purpose of :OnInitialize |
| 15:02.26 | Zpredator | are there any alterative download sites for dump Clique.rev |
| 15:02.37 | Zpredator | Clique**** |
| 15:02.37 | Kivin | o_O |
| 15:02.48 | nevcairiel | Kivin: OnInit gets called after ADDON_LOADED |
| 15:03.01 | JoshBorke | damnit nev! |
| 15:03.12 | JoshBorke | Zpredator: www.wowinterface.com is the only site |
| 15:03.20 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: i had to go looking through the code, no fair |
| 15:03.22 | Kivin | nevcairiel: I'm getting nils for stuff that's declared in the .lua file that follows my :NewAddon one, and there's no errors in the second code page |
| 15:03.36 | JoshBorke | kivin: pastey your code |
| 15:03.48 | Kivin | erm |
| 15:03.57 | Zpredator | www.wowinterface.com is down. |
| 15:04.14 | Orionshock | Zpredator: go get a svn client and download it from http://wow-clique.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ |
| 15:04.25 | Orionshock | or just grab the files as is and save as text |
| 15:05.39 | Kivin | http://pastebin.com/d51bba874 < self.MessageBucket is turning up nil |
| 15:08.06 | Zpredator | downloading now, thanks :P |
| 15:09.02 | Orionshock | Zpredator: just remember something about SVN stuff, stuff in the trunk ain't always stable.. and clad might get irritable if your using svn copies and while about it being broken.... so go get the real version when wowi comes back online |
| 15:09.03 | JoshBorke | hm, kivin, but after OnInitialize fires self.MessageBucket is non-nil? |
| 15:09.04 | nevcairiel | Kivin: you sure BucketContainer is ~= nil?^^ |
| 15:09.21 | Kivin | positive |
| 15:09.39 | Kivin | and i added some :AddMessages, one immediately after :NewAddon, one in :OnInitialize, and one at the beginning of the second code page |
| 15:09.43 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.04 | Kivin | it appears to be loaded in the correct order, which puzzles me. |
| 15:10.14 | nevcairiel | of course it does |
| 15:10.29 | nevcairiel | OnInit gets called after ADDON_LOADED, so that the sv is ready, and everything else |
| 15:11.12 | Kivin | at PEW, .MessageBucket ~= nil |
| 15:11.19 | Kivin | But apparently at ADDON_LOADED, it is |
| 15:11.20 | Orionshock | Kivin: not enough context to determine where it's phooked |
| 15:11.37 | Orionshock | like where is BucketContainer getting declared? |
| 15:11.59 | Zpredator | would it be possible to get it from client WowAceUpdater |
| 15:12.05 | Kivin | it's just BucketContainer = {}; * some methods here * Addon.MessageBucket = BucketContainer |
| 15:12.20 | Orionshock | Zpredator: yes, but im not going to tell you how |
| 15:12.33 | Zpredator | okay np |
| 15:12.35 | nevcairiel | you cannot get Clique from WAU |
| 15:12.41 | Zpredator | as long as its possible, theres hope. |
| 15:12.46 | Zpredator | ffs. |
| 15:12.55 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: you can, just it's cheep and not liked very well |
| 15:13.05 | nevcairiel | how so? |
| 15:13.10 | nevcairiel | its not on SVN or files page |
| 15:13.40 | Orionshock | & did someone say that WAU was limited exclusively to the files site? |
| 15:14.13 | nevcairiel | its limited by the format our XML has, if someone cloned that, it would probably work for that page too, but thats just silly |
| 15:14.49 | Orionshock | no hack, no programing, just a few simple settings thrown and a few extra goodies on the computer... |
| 15:15.41 | Kivin | alright, moved it down to pew and all is good for now |
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| 15:31.57 | Kivin | lua> tonumber(xzy) |
| 15:31.57 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
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| 15:44.33 | KivinSan | self:Hook("ChatFrame_OnEvent", true) <- Ace3. Should this pre-hook the function or post-hook? |
| 15:45.42 | nevcairiel | Pre |
| 15:46.19 | KivinSan | Hmm... then I'm shit out of ideas. |
| 15:46.20 | KivinSan | http://pastebin.com/d7c2ee3b3 |
| 15:46.21 | nevcairiel | default :Hook is a fail-safe hook, you dont have to call the original function, or do anything, you just get called when it gets called |
| 15:46.33 | nevcairiel | if you need a "real" hook, use :RawHook |
| 15:46.34 | KivinSan | I've got self:ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler setup to return nil every time for debugging |
| 15:46.45 | KivinSan | ohhh ok |
| 15:47.02 | KivinSan | I'd smack vhaarr or whatever his face is if he was here |
| 15:47.10 | KivinSan | Kicked me from #wowace for not liking his answer and it wasn't even the right one |
| 15:47.19 | KivinSan | Many thank yous |
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| 15:47.31 | nevcairiel | we should document the new fail-safe hook |
| 15:47.34 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 15:47.36 | KivinSan | I'd appreciate taht |
| 15:47.47 | Shirik|Ecole | you'd better be careful with what you say |
| 15:47.48 | nevcairiel | its only designed for cases where you need to get notified when a function is run |
| 15:48.07 | Shirik|Ecole | There are people (myself included) that obtain logs even when we're not here just so we can read up on what we missed... |
| 15:48.16 | Shirik|Ecole | whether vhaarr is one of those people I Don't know |
| 15:48.26 | Pkekyo| | I hate piece of shits that needroll on BoU gems that drop in instances |
| 15:48.36 | Shirik|Ecole | "oh whoops it was an accident" |
| 15:48.40 | KivinSan | Shirik|Ecole: If he's got so much pride bottled up that he'd kick/ban me again for saying that, i don't belong with such company anyways. |
| 15:49.10 | KivinSan | :RawHook made all well. Thanks nevcairiel. |
| 15:49.22 | nevcairiel | we really need to get more docs :P |
| 15:49.23 | Shirik|Ecole | or better yet |
| 15:49.26 | nevcairiel | wtb doc writer! |
| 15:49.29 | Shirik|Ecole | you could.... not use a library to hook |
| 15:49.37 | Pkekyo| | Shirik|Ecole: no, "i needs its!" |
| 15:49.42 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel: I'm actually working on one for Lua, but you'll have to have written in javadoc style |
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| 15:49.57 | nevcairiel | Shirik|Ecole: meh, more like real docs with real explanations :P |
| 15:50.06 | nevcairiel | no inline docs stripped on a wiki page |
| 15:50.06 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:50.12 | Shirik|Ecole | It's not hard to put real documentation in comments.... |
| 15:50.21 | Shirik|Ecole | "Oh I can't have a 10 line comment, that's too long!" |
| 15:50.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I had a 100 line comment once -_- |
| 15:50.32 | Shirik|Ecole | complete with ASCII art |
| 15:50.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:51.17 | KivinSan | wtb a buyer for all these fel lotus i've got sitting around |
| 15:51.22 | Pkekyo| | my DPS is on par with a lvl 68 hunter |
| 15:51.31 | Pkekyo| | I'm lvl 64 |
| 15:51.47 | nevcairiel | javadoc .. hrm .. is that similar to doxygen? only worked with that |
| 15:51.51 | KivinSan | Careful who you compaer with. There's a lot of really bad 68 hunters. |
| 15:52.15 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowi.pastey.net/81320 |
| 15:52.18 | KivinSan | Spec makes a huge difference, too |
| 15:52.26 | Shirik|Ecole | Of course, you know, then Blizzard decided that they're going to do this on their own |
| 15:52.30 | Shirik|Ecole | making all of my code worthless |
| 15:52.32 | Shirik|Ecole | but I did this a year ago :P |
| 15:52.45 | nevcairiel | ehe |
| 15:52.47 | tinderbox | does anyone know if it's possible to get rid of the green/red border on auras in pitbull? |
| 15:52.48 | nevcairiel | *hehe |
| 15:53.02 | KivinSan | tinderbox: what do they correspond to, debuffs |
| 15:53.04 | KivinSan | ? |
| 15:53.12 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: add an option to mapster to make my arrow bigger |
| 15:53.16 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel: I haven't worked with doxygen |
| 15:53.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Comments look like this: |
| 15:53.24 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: no enlargement in my addons! |
| 15:53.30 | SNiLD | nevcairiel: doxygen syntax with "at" characters is the same as javadoc |
| 15:53.32 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: specifically i want it to start out big and then shrink after 30s |
| 15:53.43 | tinderbox | kivinsan: yeah, buffs/debuffs |
| 15:54.11 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: only 30s? isnt that kinda short? |
| 15:54.28 | JoshBorke | meh, i don't really care how long or short |
| 15:54.34 | JoshBorke | i just think 30s is the shortest amount of time it should be big |
| 15:54.43 | Kivin | tinderbox: Try PitBull > FrameType > Other > Auras > Highlight |
| 15:55.34 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel: It looks like this http://wowi.pastey.net/81321 |
| 15:55.43 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 15:55.50 | Shirik|Ecole | except that /** would be tabbed over with everything else :P |
| 15:56.01 | nevcairiel | looks alot like doxygen |
| 15:56.06 | tinderbox | kivin: thank you so so much! |
| 15:56.14 | Kivin | tinderbox: yw |
| 15:56.25 | nevcairiel | altho i've always done @param[in] or [out] |
| 15:56.42 | nevcairiel | but thats more like a C thing with pointers anyway |
| 15:56.46 | nevcairiel | multiple returns to the rescue |
| 15:56.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I think Java will yell at me if I do that |
| 15:57.23 | Shirik|Ecole | warning: missing @param tag for data; warning: variable name expected near [in] |
| 15:57.29 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:57.32 | Kivin | Anyone here pvp as an elemental shaman? |
| 15:58.00 | Shirik|Ecole | strange that the compiler gives you warnings for comments now thoug h:P |
| 15:58.12 | nevcairiel | the default java compiler? man :P |
| 15:58.37 | ramoz | can anyone remember the site that list average Ah prices from all the servers? |
| 15:58.45 | dylanm | wowecon.com |
| 15:59.08 | Thrae | !p heavy leather |
| 15:59.09 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Heavy Leather; Vendor: 1s 50c; Deposit (24h): 90c; Auction (All): 8s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 15:59.10 | ramoz | thanks |
| 15:59.38 | Thrae | !p heavy leather; maelstrom; us; horde |
| 15:59.39 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Heavy Leather; Vendor: 1s 50c; Deposit (24h): 90c; Auction (Maelstrom): 4s; Auction (All): 6s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
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| 16:03.10 | nevcairiel | !p ace of blessings; antonidas; eu; alliance |
| 16:03.11 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Name: Ace of Blessings; Vendor: 2g 50s; Deposit (24h): 1g 50s; Auction (All): 210g [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 16:03.30 | nevcairiel | doesnt like my server |
| 16:03.40 | Thrae | Doesn't have info for your server |
| 16:04.18 | Thrae | I don't think wowecon has a lot of eu data, honestly |
| 16:04.26 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 16:06.13 | Pkekyo| | is it possible in a macro to have an action happen ONLY IF <insert spell> is castable on current target? |
| 16:06.24 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:06.24 | Kivin | [harm] or [help] |
| 16:06.33 | nevcairiel | yeah well those work |
| 16:06.39 | nevcairiel | but thats about it |
| 16:06.39 | Pkekyo| | that's not gonna cut it |
| 16:06.45 | Kivin | then you're SOL |
| 16:06.58 | Pkekyo| | got this sheep macro that tends to get a bit spammy |
| 16:07.13 | Kivin | what's "spammy" about it? |
| 16:07.38 | Pkekyo| | it announces sheeping in party/raid chat...when I press the button several times (ie if it's out of range the first time), it gets very spammy |
| 16:08.18 | Kivin | you can make an addon that throttles the /p message |
| 16:08.36 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: Do a UnitIsVisible() check before outputting anything |
| 16:09.08 | Thrae | !api UnitIsVisible |
| 16:09.08 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Could not find an example within http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitIsVisible |
| 16:09.22 | Thrae | Oh yeah, I think they changed their templates. Damn them. |
| 16:09.33 | Pkekyo| | I don't know how to make an addon, Kivin :p |
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| 16:09.50 | Kivin | if ( GetTime() - (lastTime or 0) ) > 3.0 then SendChatMessage(format("Sheeping %s", UnitName('target'))) end; lastTime = GetTime(); |
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| 16:10.37 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: /script if UnitIsVisible() then SendChatMessage("Sheeping " .. UnitName("target"), "PARTY") end |
| 16:10.57 | Kivin | Doesnt' help him if he clicks the button twice, though. I understood that he was spamming chat... |
| 16:11.26 | Thrae | Kivin: True |
| 16:11.59 | Kivin | if ( GetTime() - (lastTime or 0) ) > 3.0 or ( (lastName or "") ~= UnitName('target') ) then SendChatMessage(format("Sheeping %s", UnitName('target')), "PARTY") end; lastTime = GetTime(); |
| 16:12.16 | Kivin | if ( GetTime() - (lastTime or 0) ) > 3.0 or ( (lastName or "") ~= UnitName('target') ) then SendChatMessage(format("Sheeping %s", UnitName('target')), "PARTY") end; lastTime = GetTime(); lastName = UnitName('target') |
| 16:12.17 | Thrae | Wait, I know |
| 16:14.19 | alcaras | is there a list of long tbc quest chains anywhere? |
| 16:14.33 | alcaras | i can think of arcatraz key quest, tk key, ssc key, bt key... |
| 16:14.52 | Pkekyo| | define 'long'? |
| 16:15.00 | alcaras | not soloable |
| 16:15.10 | alcaras | not soloable in entirety |
| 16:17.40 | alcaras | i guess i can look at wowhead for group quests |
| 16:19.18 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: what's with the (lua?) code? |
| 16:20.03 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: http://wowi.pastey.net/81324 |
| 16:20.15 | Kivin | there's your fix to your spammy macro |
| 16:20.21 | Kivin | throw that in a .lua file |
| 16:22.32 | Pkekyo| | and put it where? (also, how to make it announce to raid as well?) |
| 16:22.33 | elusif | is there a mod that will keep track of horde i gank and horde that gank me in the world? |
| 16:22.36 | elusif | outside of bg like |
| 16:23.38 | elusif | gief plx |
| 16:23.40 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: do you have an svn client? i can put an actual addon on my googlecode |
| 16:24.15 | mykx | what would be the point of that elusif ? :\ |
| 16:24.15 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: svn client? I'm just idling the chan, I don't do addon stuff :p |
| 16:24.24 | Kivin | heh, alright... um |
| 16:25.02 | Pkekyo| | only thing I've done with lua is modify a couple of addons to fit my needs better...couldn't write an addon by myself though |
| 16:27.45 | Pkekyo| | what are the areas of use for lua? |
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| 16:27.55 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: to do stuff? |
| 16:28.51 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorke: thank you, captain obvious? |
| 16:28.54 | Pkekyo| | what's it used for? |
| 16:29.06 | JoshBorke | it's used in every addon for world of warcraft |
| 16:29.07 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: try /cast Polymorph - Sheep <return> /script c,_,_,_,_,e = UnitCastingInfo("player") if c and c:find("Polymorph") then SendChatMessage("Casting " .. c .. " in " .. e .. "s", "PARTY") end |
| 16:29.13 | JoshBorke | that seems like a really vague question |
| 16:29.19 | JoshBorke | that's like asking: what's C used for? |
| 16:29.21 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: I'm uploading a zip |
| 16:29.23 | JoshBorke | what's C++ used for? |
| 16:29.50 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: I'm not sure if UnitCastingInfo will be updated right after a successful /cast, it'd be worth finding out |
| 16:29.59 | Thrae | At least right in the same macro |
| 16:30.10 | JoshBorke | doubtful |
| 16:30.13 | Kivin | apparently my filexoom is closed, you're going to have to use my svn |
| 16:30.23 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorke: I wanna know if it's worth it salt outside wow addons |
| 16:30.38 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: ah, taht's much more clear. and yes, it is |
| 16:30.57 | Pkekyo| | for things such as...? what kind of applications etc? |
| 16:31.03 | JoshBorke | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_%28programming_language%29 |
| 16:31.06 | Thrae | JoshBorke: Could be -- I think in 2.0 macros don't "stay in Lua" anymore, they immediatly try to invoke the action |
| 16:31.38 | JoshBorke | thrae: my concern is you can't obtain a target for a cast until UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT fires |
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| 16:31.45 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: http://kivin-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SheepThrottle/ |
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| 16:31.52 | Kivin | download those two files |
| 16:32.02 | Kivin | put them in WOWDIR\Interface\Addons\SheepThrottle |
| 16:32.03 | Kivin | Profile |
| 16:32.06 | Kivin | profit* |
| 16:32.25 | Pkekyo| | thanks Kivin, I'll give it a try :) |
| 16:32.28 | Kivin | add /run ThrottleSheep("Sheeping %s.", 2, "target"), for example |
| 16:32.29 | Thrae | JoshBorke: True, but we're not talking about events here, we're talking about a direct server/client inquiry -- these can have info even more events are sent out to Lua |
| 16:32.35 | CIA-9 | 03shen * r59448 10PoliteWhisper/ (4 files): PoliteWhisper Extended: Added support for Heroic 5-man instances (English only for now) |
| 16:32.37 | JoshBorke | true, true |
| 16:32.41 | Kivin | first param is the message. %s is the sheep target's name. |
| 16:32.52 | Kivin | second param is the min number of seconds between msgs. third param is the unit id |
| 16:33.10 | Kivin | it should auto decide whether to do RAID or PARTY |
| 16:33.37 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: to the macro? |
| 16:33.43 | Thrae | Kivin: Technically, you should have an override for that -- some raids might not like that ;) |
| 16:33.43 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: pardon me? |
| 16:33.54 | Kivin | Thrae: It's ghetto :P |
| 16:33.58 | Thrae | You're ghetto |
| 16:34.01 | Kivin | D:! |
| 16:34.17 | Thrae | Emoticons cannot be punctuated. |
| 16:34.24 | Kivin | I just did |
| 16:34.27 | Kivin | Get with the times |
| 16:34.31 | Thrae | That looks like a sad man with a weiner on his head. |
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| 16:34.42 | Thrae | Maybe a comb-over. |
| 16:35.08 | Thrae | Whatevever you say, user of weiner-head emoticons. |
| 16:35.38 | Kivin | new revision on the svn. if your raid doesn't like sheep warnings, add "PARTY" to the arguments |
| 16:35.53 | Pkekyo| | Kivinadd /run ThrottleSheep("Sheeping %s.", 2, "target"), for example <--- to the macro? |
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| 16:36.45 | Kivin | yes |
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| 16:36.52 | JoshBorke | thrae: agreed |
| 16:37.09 | Kivin | If it's too long, then you can change 'ThrottleSheep' to whatever, just change it in both the macro and the lua |
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| 16:39.34 | Kivin | lua> true and true and 2 or 3 |
| 16:39.34 | lua_bot | Kivin: 2 |
| 16:40.30 | Kivin | lua> true and true or false and 2 or 3 |
| 16:40.30 | lua_bot | Kivin: true |
| 16:41.07 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: it's wiener, btw =) |
| 16:41.07 | nevcairiel | wtf o.O^^ |
| 16:41.17 | Kivin | nevcairiel: ? |
| 16:41.41 | nevcairiel | where is the sense in that logic? :P |
| 16:41.49 | nevcairiel | true and true? :D |
| 16:41.54 | Kivin | nevcairiel: I wanted to see if i could compress 3 lines into 1. I can. |
| 16:41.58 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: 'Weiner' is the alternative spelling of 'Wiener'. |
| 16:42.03 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 16:42.08 | Gnarfoz | it's not |
| 16:42.13 | Kivin | i had: if not medium then medium = UnitInRaid("player") and "RAID" or "PARTY" end |
| 16:42.23 | nevcairiel | ~dict Weiner |
| 16:42.26 | Gnarfoz | Wien, a.k.a. Vienna is the capital of Austria and has no alternative spelling |
| 16:42.33 | nevcairiel | ~dict 2 Weiner |
| 16:42.41 | Gnarfoz | ~dict Vienna |
| 16:42.44 | Kivin | i wanted to see if: if medium and medium or UnitInRaid("player") and "RAID" or "PARTY" would work |
| 16:43.03 | nevcairiel | wrong vienna Gnarfoz :P |
| 16:43.29 | nevcairiel | you should keep your if check |
| 16:43.32 | Gnarfoz | I know. CBA to find the right one out of ten, you know which one I mean. The one where "wieners" got their name from :p |
| 16:43.34 | nevcairiel | its more efficent |
| 16:43.41 | Kivin | nevcairiel: I'm aware. It was a silly curiosity. |
| 16:43.49 | nevcairiel | good :) |
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| 16:44.18 | kadrahil | anyone around that plays korgath alliance? |
| 16:44.21 | Kivin | Not being able to hide the stance bar in TrinityBars2 makes me want to stab Maul in the face. |
| 16:44.38 | kadrahil | Kivin: you could... maul Maul in the face :o |
| 16:44.41 | nevcairiel | maul him, imho |
| 16:44.42 | Kivin | Doubly so because it's visible on my rogue and shaman |
| 16:44.45 | nevcairiel | doh too slow :P |
| 16:44.48 | kadrahil | nevcairiel: <3 |
| 16:44.53 | Kivin | XP |
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| 16:50.26 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: It's an archaic alternative. 'Wiener' comes from a german word, but 'weiner' is more phonetic. |
| 16:51.03 | Thrae | Of course, 'Weiner' is also a last name related to a family in the business of wine. |
| 16:51.03 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: Wien is a town. It has no alternative spelling. |
| 16:51.43 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: 'Wiener' is a word in English as well as German. We can take a word and spell it however we damn want, thank you very much. |
| 16:52.19 | Gnarfoz | blah blah ~~ |
| 16:52.29 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: And I don't know where you're getting the 'Wien' from -- that's not the origin of 'Wiener'. |
| 16:52.45 | Gnarfoz | IT IS |
| 16:52.47 | Gnarfoz | rofl |
| 16:52.53 | Gnarfoz | they're sausages from Vienna |
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| 16:53.21 | Gnarfoz | the full term would be "Wiener Wuerstchen" |
| 16:53.43 | Gnarfoz | (Or Wienerwurst, most Austrians would call it, I guess) |
| 16:54.12 | Gnarfoz | http://m-w.org/dictionary/wiener < |
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| 16:55.02 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: That's not the origin of the word in ENGLISH. The origin of the word in English is from 'Wiener Wuerstchen', 'Wienerwurst', etc., which we took phonetically as well as literally into our language. |
| 16:56.03 | Thrae | I have no idea what you're arguing about. I'm only talking about American English words. |
| 16:56.29 | Gnarfoz | riiight. |
| 16:56.54 | Gnarfoz | because you are /so/ not contradicting yourself in that sentence. |
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| 16:57.07 | Thrae | Where am I contradicting myself? |
| 16:57.11 | Thrae | Show me. |
| 16:57.13 | Ellipsis | settle down kids |
| 16:57.17 | Ellipsis | it's just english |
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| 17:04.12 | Gnarfoz | "which we took phonetically as well as literally into our language" <- if you took it literally, it would have kept its spelling (it has, because "wiener" is in dictionaries, with "weiner" as an alternative spelling, at most, because people seem to be unable to remember words on their spelling alone). I agree that "weiner" is likely to be pronounced more like the original german word, but words can and do have their own specific pronounciations - |
| 17:04.18 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:04.40 | Gnarfoz | also, I'm just bored, so, no offense intended ;) |
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| 17:05.32 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: "phonetically as well as literally" was a reference to porting the word in its pristine spelling ('wiener' from the german), as well as a more phonetic sounding and similiar 'weiner'. Sorry if the sentence wasn't clear. |
| 17:05.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah in the process of writing my wall of text, I also realized that |
| 17:05.55 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
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| 17:07.29 | Thrae | Phonetically, 'wiener' cannot be made into 'weener'. The english equivilent is 'pie', which is pronounced with a long I. |
| 17:08.03 | Thrae | But we pronounce it 'weener' steming back from its German roots, 'veener'. |
| 17:14.57 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r59450 10LightQueue/ (LightQueue.lua LightQueue.toc): |
| 17:14.57 | CIA-9 | LightQueue: v2 |
| 17:14.57 | CIA-9 | - Now prints in raid what BG number you get when it pops. |
| 17:14.57 | CIA-9 | - Now prints in Raid Warning when you join a group. (If you are promoted) |
| 17:14.57 | CIA-9 | - Misc shuffling of code |
| 17:15.53 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59451 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change minimum height from 10 to 5 |
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| 17:20.23 | elusif | is there a mod that will keep track of horde i gank and horde that gank me in the world? |
| 17:20.28 | elusif | outside of bg like |
| 17:22.24 | Ozguli | some kill on sight mods do that |
| 17:22.51 | Pkekyo| | how do I output the level of a target in a macro? |
| 17:23.45 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: UnitLevel('target') |
| 17:26.21 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59452 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - make [RaidGroup] work with cross-server battlegrounds groups |
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| 17:50.05 | RaydenUni | Ellipsis |
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| 17:51.39 | ckknight | RaydenUni: she's taking a shower |
| 17:51.52 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r59453 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: gold is a rarespawn of mithril too |
| 17:52.39 | charon | is there any automatic /combatlog addon other than LoggerHead? it refuses to load correctly for me |
| 17:52.47 | RaydenUni | thought she might find it interesting that i was just part of a large discussion on ellipses in another channel |
| 17:52.48 | Gnarfoz | several |
| 17:52.56 | Gnarfoz | AutoCL from wowwebstats, perhaps |
| 17:53.02 | ckknight | RaydenUni: oh? |
| 17:53.08 | Gnarfoz | but what do you mean by "refuses to load correctly" |
| 17:53.09 | ckknight | RaydenUni: which channel? |
| 17:53.16 | RaydenUni | #naturalselection on gamesurge |
| 17:53.19 | RaydenUni | you live with Ellipsis ? |
| 17:53.23 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r59454 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: oh yeah and silver in iron, while i am at it =P |
| 17:53.23 | ckknight | RaydenUni: and do you mean an ellipsis like "..." |
| 17:53.25 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:53.25 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: are you there? can you tell me what a nether drak you have? |
| 17:53.28 | ckknight | RaydenUni: yea |
| 17:53.30 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 17:53.41 | [SW]Dodge | drake* |
| 17:54.00 | RaydenUni | i'm writing a paper and needed to know how to do a certain quotation involving an ellipsis |
| 17:54.07 | charon | Gnarfoz: it pops up a message about Tourist-2.0 requiring Babble-<something>-2.2, which i find rather suspicious since a) the message should be trapped by bugsack so it seems to load early, and b) both are embedded in it as far as i can see |
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| 17:55.36 | CIA-9 | 03merl 07Modules * r59455 10mHud/CustomColors/CustomColors.lua: mHud: Forgot to remove an old function pointer in CustomColors.lua |
| 17:55.52 | Antiarc | WASHINGTON - Hackers literally turned out the lights in multiple cities after breaking into electrical utilities and demanding extortion payments before disrupting the power, a senior CIA analyst told utility engineers at a trade conference. |
| 17:55.53 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 17:56.06 | charon | Gnarfoz: exact message is "...\LoggerHead\libs\Tourist-2.0\Tourist-2.0.lua:19: Tourist-2.0 requires Babble-Zone-2.2" |
| 17:56.12 | Tuller | firesale! |
| 17:56.19 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: and i thought stuff like that only happens in moves :D |
| 17:56.22 | nevcairiel | ya firesale :E |
| 17:56.25 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:56.26 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: no kidding |
| 17:56.56 | Gnarfoz | charon: hm |
| 17:57.11 | Gnarfoz | charon: do you run embedded or disembedded? |
| 17:57.28 | charon | embedded |
| 17:58.09 | Gnarfoz | hm can't really help, then :< |
| 17:58.17 | Gnarfoz | because I can't test for myself |
| 17:59.19 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r59456 10UnitActionBars2/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:59.19 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 17:59.19 | CIA-9 | - Tooltip fixes and performance changes. Refresh every .4 secs, and most status now not event driven, but driven by queries when status is active. |
| 17:59.20 | charon | duh |
| 17:59.31 | charon | i found it... a path in embeds.xml is wrong |
| 17:59.39 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 17:59.43 | Gnarfoz | easy enough |
| 17:59.57 | Gnarfoz | charon: got svn to fix it yourself? |
| 18:00.06 | charon | yup, do you think it's ok if i do so? |
| 18:00.19 | nevcairiel | sure fix it |
| 18:00.30 | Gnarfoz | bugfixes are ok, I think, but you could always check with the author |
| 18:01.28 | charon | well if you two regulars think it's ok, i'll probably be spared from the wrath of the gods promised on the wiki page ;) |
| 18:01.35 | Gnarfoz | weee built-in itemrack feature for WotLK |
| 18:02.11 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sano |
| 18:02.14 | purl | sano <n=sano@mol92-4-82-227-96-95.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 76d 4h 27m 18s ago, saying: 'Oo'. |
| 18:02.42 | charon | 76 days huh |
| 18:03.18 | CIA-9 | 03charon * r59457 10LoggerHead/embeds.xml: LoggerHead: fix path to Babble-Zone-2.2 in embeds.xml |
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| 18:07.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Any SVN gurus around? |
| 18:08.05 | Kivin | I'm about as useless as you can get at SVN, but shoot anyways |
| 18:08.30 | Shirik|Ecole | eh, I don't think you'll know the answer then :P |
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| 18:08.39 | Kivin | ~asktoask |
| 18:08.40 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:08.49 | Shirik|Ecole | ~factinfo asktoask |
| 18:08.49 | purl | asktoask -- created by Shirik <i=nospam@24.229.63.42.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net> at Wed Jul 18 00:33:40 2007 (192 days); it has been requested 179 times, last by Kivin, 10s ago. |
| 18:09.04 | Gnarfoz | well... |
| 18:09.07 | Gnarfoz | you know what to do! |
| 18:09.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:09.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't ask to ask a question, I asked if anyone was an SVN guru :P |
| 18:09.19 | Kivin | you asked to ask |
| 18:09.26 | Kivin | the lurkers wont be inspired to help you if you don't just come out wiht it |
| 18:09.28 | Kivin | with* |
| 18:09.31 | Gnarfoz | that's exactly what a metaquestion is ;) |
| 18:09.58 | Shirik|Ecole | Okay, you really want the question you got it |
| 18:10.09 | Shirik|Ecole | svn co svn://localhost/ fails to check out, svn just sits there doing nothing |
| 18:10.20 | Shirik|Ecole | svn co svn+ssh://root@localhost/ checks out fine |
| 18:10.27 | Gnarfoz | http://neilduckett.com/portable-subway-strap-says-im-no-groper/ |
| 18:10.28 | Shirik|Ecole | svn co file:///path/to/repo checks out fine |
| 18:10.38 | Shirik|Ecole | now why can't I get it to check out over internet? |
| 18:10.38 | Kivin | okay |
| 18:11.11 | kergoth | sn://localhost/ isn't going over the "internet" |
| 18:11.15 | kergoth | s/^sn/svn/ |
| 18:11.31 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 18:11.38 | Shirik|Ecole | svn://ipaddress/ doesn't work either :P |
| 18:11.48 | kergoth | then your question has nothing to do with the internet, now doesnt it? |
| 18:11.48 | Shirik|Ecole | though I should point out svn+ssh://ipaddress/ does work |
| 18:11.53 | kergoth | there's something wrong with your svnserve setup |
| 18:11.54 | Shirik|Ecole | Sure it does |
| 18:12.03 | Shirik|Ecole | localhost = 127.0.0.1 which is my mini internet :P |
| 18:12.14 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway |
| 18:12.14 | kergoth | please, come back when you're not going to act like an idiot |
| 18:12.46 | charon | Shirik|Ecole: since svn:// uses svnserve, svn+ssh:// uses sshd and file:// uses local file access, your svnserve must be broken |
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| 18:29.08 | Shirik|Ecole | for the record, svnadmin recover resolved the problem |
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| 18:41.48 | Hjalte | Are you not usually able to target members of the raid in the Raid panel? |
| 18:43.38 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 18:44.23 | dodga | Hjalte: I think they turned that off some patches ago (probably because of tainting issues in the social pane iirc) |
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| 18:56.35 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: haven't been able to do that for quite some time. might have been removed or you've got taint going on. I always wanted to check that without custom addons enabled, but I cba to go back to stone-age style UI ;D |
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| 19:04.56 | Bam_ | anyone using Kate editor for Lua development? |
| 19:07.30 | ulic | mmm, Kate, can't wait for Lost to start again. |
| 19:08.26 | _rane | idd |
| 19:08.41 | _rane | Kivin: hey, can i ask you some rogue stuff again? |
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| 19:14.27 | Kivin | _rane: sup? |
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| 19:31.54 | NEBKO | hi can anyone tell me slash comm to open config window? |
| 19:32.38 | Stanzilla | which config window? |
| 19:33.29 | NEBKO | to config addons.. etc eepanels, prat |
| 19:33.40 | Kivin | Everyone one is different |
| 19:33.42 | Zhinjio | many addons maintain their own configs |
| 19:34.08 | Zhinjio | some libraries (Rock, eg) provide a foundation for many addons to config in one panel, as do some addons like Niagara |
| 19:35.41 | Zhinjio | so: be more specific. |
| 19:35.47 | Zhinjio | what addon do you want to configure |
| 19:36.05 | NEBKO | squeenix |
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| 19:36.39 | Zhinjio | if I recall, that the square minimap addon? |
| 19:36.40 | NEBKO | or prat |
| 19:36.48 | NEBKO | yes |
| 19:36.54 | Zhinjio | have you tried right clicking the minimap? |
| 19:37.01 | Stanzilla | prat is /prat waterfall |
| 19:37.06 | [Ammo] | it's /squeenix btw nebko |
| 19:37.14 | [Ammo] | but there is no graphic config, just slashcommand |
| 19:37.48 | NEBKO | 7Stanzilla: thx |
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| 19:51.35 | JoshBork1 | please no colors |
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| 19:56.01 | neenee | You can block colours client-side |
| 19:57.15 | ckknight | so? doesn't mean we have to. it's useful in some cases, e.g. CIA-9, but for normal people it's just a pain |
| 19:58.15 | neenee | It can be easier than changing peoples' behaviour. |
| 19:59.02 | JoshBork1 | neenee: but it's easier to just obey the rules of freenode, no? |
| 19:59.08 | ckknight | their behavior is either ignorance or insubordination, both relatively easy to fix |
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| 19:59.44 | neenee | If it's a rule, then it's their fault :) |
| 20:00.26 | neenee | I wasn't aware of its existence, so I got the impression that JoshBork1 just had a problem with colours him or herself :) |
| 20:00.32 | Zhinjio | and arbitrary rules to satisy ego-mad would-be developers is what this channel is all about! |
| 20:01.08 | JoshBork1 | it's not like i was mean about it :P |
| 20:01.15 | JoshBork1 | i said please |
| 20:01.24 | JoshBork1 | and i didn't single anyone out! |
| 20:01.51 | neenee | I know you were not mean about it :) I just meant to say that client-side removal of colours is an option :) |
| 20:02.34 | neenee | Because I've seen situations in the past where people try to make people not use colours and it didn't work. |
| 20:02.45 | neenee | And banning/kicking was not an option |
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| 20:08.11 | Kivin | Apparently banning and kicking is an option, because I saw a mod ban someone from this channel not long ago for using colour |
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| 20:17.15 | NightHawkTheSane | you need to be able to inspect people's professions like you can gear/talents >< |
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| 20:18.09 | vithos | i agree. |
| 20:18.28 | vithos | or someone needs to make a dataminer/addon that adds it to the tooltip |
| 20:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, an addon would be bulky |
| 20:23.44 | Xinhuan | datamine wouldn't be accurate |
| 20:24.23 | Xinhuan | there are some items you can still wear without being of that profession |
| 20:24.23 | JoshBork1 | you can pull profs from armory |
| 20:24.35 | Xinhuan | yeah but that will require weekly updates |
| 20:24.41 | Diao | don't those items have the "requires ____ prof" in tooltip though |
| 20:24.44 | Diao | that you could scan for |
| 20:24.53 | Xinhuan | yeah but out of 100 people |
| 20:24.55 | JoshBork1 | no, because you can drop the prof and keep the gear on |
| 20:24.59 | Xinhuan | i think you'll only find 1 to 5 ppl |
| 20:25.01 | Diao | lol |
| 20:25.04 | Xinhuan | that still wear those |
| 20:25.14 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4187421157&sid=1 |
| 20:25.18 | Xinhuan | drama on my server forum hehe |
| 20:25.24 | Diao | lol |
| 20:25.25 | JoshBork1 | or you'll find 100 spriests who all wear fsw boots :P |
| 20:25.30 | Diao | one of my guildies linked that in our private chanel |
| 20:25.35 | Diao | channel* |
| 20:28.33 | Estil | gg blackrock |
| 20:29.04 | Xinhuan | anyone want to test my latest Routes commit? there's new clustering code inside! |
| 20:30.05 | JoshBork1 | nope |
| 20:30.22 | Xinhuan | more efficient routes for all! |
| 20:30.41 | Zhinjio | clustering? Like... nodes that are close together? |
| 20:31.03 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 20:31.17 | Zhinjio | I'd love to. Lemme get out of combat. |
| 20:31.25 | Xinhuan | took a while to implement/integrate since the route storage format has to change a bit, somewhat |
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| 20:31.51 | Xinhuan | and a new addon like Routes is the time to implement it ;p |
| 20:31.59 | Kivin | what is a bear mount exploit? |
| 20:32.07 | Xinhuan | there is a way to exploit za |
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| 20:32.14 | Kivin | oh =/ |
| 20:32.16 | Xinhuan | by clearing all the trash first |
| 20:32.19 | Xinhuan | then start the timer |
| 20:32.27 | Xinhuan | then kill all 4 bosses in succession |
| 20:32.36 | Kivin | hardly sounds an exploit |
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| 20:32.47 | JoshBork1 | you have to wall jump to clear the trash |
| 20:32.53 | Kivin | oh =/ |
| 20:32.55 | Kivin | yep, exploit |
| 20:32.59 | Xinhuan | originally, it involves having 3 people wall jumping |
| 20:33.11 | Xinhuan | (only works on humans) |
| 20:33.13 | Xinhuan | and having a lock summon on the other side |
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| 20:33.25 | Xinhuan | then blizz responded by disabling all summons in ZA |
| 20:33.35 | JoshBork1 | they should just put in a wall |
| 20:33.46 | Xinhuan | but its still possible by having everyone-one walljump, 3 ppl pass thru, and ppl on top suicide, and they rez thru a line of sight |
| 20:34.02 | Xinhuan | ppl can suicide by duelling outside |
| 20:34.06 | Xinhuan | zone in, eat a dark rune |
| 20:34.18 | Xinhuan | then use rank 1 rez on top, and suicide again |
| 20:34.44 | JoshBork1 | that's a lot of work, they should just get better and clear it right |
| 20:35.53 | Xinhuan | kinda, but they have some 15+ bear mounts from that heh |
| 20:39.49 | FtH|Daemona | dunno what people consider hard about zul aman |
| 20:40.09 | FtH|Daemona | even with alt grps we do 3 chests timed with time left, just not enough for the 4th in time. |
| 20:40.15 | JoshBork1 | balls of fire apparently |
| 20:41.10 | FtH|Daemona | so you say its worth getting new routes version xin? |
| 20:41.25 | Xinhuan | i would think so |
| 20:41.32 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 20:41.33 | Xinhuan | it needs some testing to see if there's any bugs |
| 20:42.18 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp3.jpg -- BEFORE: 657 nodes |
| 20:42.19 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4.jpg -- After clustering nodes at 200 yards radius: 69 nodes |
| 20:42.19 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp5.jpg -- After clustering nodes at 100 yards radius: 196 nodes |
| 20:42.23 | Xinhuan | screenshots available too |
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| 20:43.07 | FtH|Daemona | how did you put it in code? check on distance, if distance less x, consider 2 nodes a center node inbetween both? |
| 20:43.13 | JoshBork1 | ok, that's awesome |
| 20:43.23 | Xinhuan | almost |
| 20:43.29 | Xinhuan | almost something like that |
| 20:43.55 | JoshBork1 | very nice xin |
| 20:44.29 | Xinhuan | it turns out that, although not foolproof, clustering at 100 yards using greedy approach, yields a route with about an average distance of |
| 20:44.50 | Xinhuan | 59 yards or so from the original parts at max, although the theorectical max is around 70 yards |
| 20:44.57 | Xinhuan | i didn't quite check |
| 20:44.59 | Xinhuan | maybe i should |
| 20:45.03 | Xinhuan | and see some statistics |
| 20:45.25 | Xinhuan | "find minerals" range is 80 yards on going in and 100 yards on going out |
| 20:46.11 | FtH|Daemona | the point is, the lag of fade in, i guess i would add some safety distance, so you dont miss spots on your gladiator mount ^^ |
| 20:46.27 | Xinhuan | i don't even have a gathering profession ~_~ |
| 20:46.36 | FtH|Daemona | haha :) |
| 20:46.43 | FtH|Daemona | lazy bum |
| 20:46.49 | Xinhuan | logging in to calculate some statistics i guess |
| 20:48.08 | FtH|Daemona | so how do i enable clusterin? just re-calculate the already existing route? |
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| 20:51.18 | FtH|Daemona | on a side note, why wasnt there any update on cartographer_data since december? is the db considered "complete" ? ;) |
| 20:51.39 | Xinhuan | the person who runs the update got lazy maybe? |
| 20:52.43 | Xinhuan | lets see, in my test the furthest node is 98.8 yards away hmm |
| 20:52.44 | FtH|Daemona | ominous had been doing it. dunno. guess unless new zones are added, it could be considered complete after 1 year of uploaded data to wowhead *think* |
| 20:57.32 | FtH|Daemona | hmmm i just recreated my terokkar route for adamantite |
| 20:57.43 | Estil | comcast fails at many levels |
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| 20:57.47 | FtH|Daemona | and it didnt cluster those nodes above shattrath e.g. |
| 21:01.16 | Xinhuan | yes? |
| 21:02.22 | FtH|Daemona | do i have to enable anything? *scratch* |
| 21:03.03 | Xinhuan | no, you just need to hit the "Cluster" button |
| 21:03.16 | Xinhuan | and check your map |
| 21:03.31 | Xinhuan | i'm assuming you have the latest version on the branches on svn |
| 21:03.36 | Xinhuan | not some downloaded zip |
| 21:03.52 | FtH|Daemona | narf, i am too lazy to svn ^^ |
| 21:04.01 | sb_ | WAH, EJ down? :/ |
| 21:04.21 | Estil | god damn it |
| 21:04.21 | Estil | I hate comcast |
| 21:04.49 | FtH|Daemona | Estil EJ routing to germany is down too |
| 21:05.04 | Xinhuan | {63, 79, 123, 115, 107, 76, 44, 32, 14, 4} this is the histogram of distance of original node point to the node it was clustered to |
| 21:05.10 | Xinhuan | by groups of 10 yards |
| 21:05.11 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 21:06.49 | Estil | question: |
| 21:06.53 | Julith | xinhuan: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Cartographer_Routes/WIP/Cartographer_Routes/ <- this one? |
| 21:06.55 | Estil | withi my 70 char |
| 21:07.01 | Estil | can I just train bunch of low level mobs |
| 21:07.07 | Estil | and tank them in order to quickly gain defense |
| 21:07.18 | Xinhuan | no |
| 21:07.20 | Estil | :( |
| 21:07.29 | Estil | so I have to tank lv 70 mos? |
| 21:07.30 | Estil | mobs* |
| 21:07.34 | Xinhuan | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Routes/Ace3/Routes/ <-- this one |
| 21:09.06 | JoshBork1 | Estil: i believe it's a function of their skill |
| 21:09.40 | Estil | I guess I will strip the gears and go tank random mobs |
| 21:10.07 | Xinhuan | hmmmm |
| 21:10.14 | Xinhuan | brb, time to tweak the algorithm |
| 21:10.37 | Xinhuan | what should i limit the upper pot clustering to |
| 21:10.42 | Xinhuan | point* |
| 21:12.35 | Xinhuan | second histogram of a different zone {76, 73, 81, 97, 78, 53, 27, 12, 6} |
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| 21:14.58 | Pkekyo| | anyone fancy explaining to me how decursive works? |
| 21:17.18 | FtH|Daemona | i rather say it "worked" as intended sometime before 2.0 |
| 21:17.21 | Xinhuan | it makes some buttons for you to click on to decurse someone. |
| 21:17.28 | Xinhuan | 25 buttons for 25 ppl |
| 21:17.47 | Julith | ok, got it, seems to work, at the moment it's "just" clustering already existing nodes together? |
| 21:18.25 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: so basicly, it'll give me a frame with x buttons and if I click it, I decurse them? |
| 21:18.34 | Xinhuan | i think so |
| 21:18.40 | Xinhuan | it won't be any different from using click-casting |
| 21:18.45 | Pkekyo| | are there always 25 buttons, or one button per every cursed raid/group member? |
| 21:18.56 | Xinhuan | you can't show/hide those buttons in combat |
| 21:19.02 | Xinhuan | so if you have 25 ppl you'll need 25 buttons |
| 21:19.12 | Xinhuan | unless you don't want to show them all in the first place |
| 21:19.18 | Pkekyo| | so it's not dynamic? |
| 21:19.22 | Xinhuan | it cannot be dynamic |
| 21:19.30 | Xinhuan | wow protected rules ensures that |
| 21:19.34 | Pkekyo| | yeah, well, I don't use unitframes, so I can't see who's cursed or not |
| 21:19.39 | Kivin | !ap 1950 |
| 21:19.39 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Arena points from a rating of 1950 is, 2v2: 749, 3v3: 868, 5v5: 986 |
| 21:19.48 | Xinhuan | well then maybe get some raid unit frames |
| 21:19.48 | Pkekyo| | so it won't help me at all if I can't tell who's cursed? |
| 21:20.01 | Xinhuan | decursive is like a barebones of a raid unit frames that only shows cursed/decursed status |
| 21:20.24 | Pkekyo| | well, there's a reason I don't have unitframes, and I prefer to keep it that way |
| 21:20.40 | mykx | because you are happy in kara right? :D |
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| 21:20.54 | CIA-9 | 03pb_ee1 * r59458 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Adding other optional bosses item summoners |
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| 21:21.47 | Pkekyo| | no, I don't do kara...I hate it |
| 21:23.18 | Pkekyo| | been boosting green geared people through kara for five months...that's well enough |
| 21:24.02 | Ozguli | green geared? must suck |
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| 21:24.22 | Ozguli | I wouldn't even want to go to high end normals green geared |
| 21:24.41 | Kivin | shadow labs is pretty bad with greens |
| 21:25.03 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: it does...it's bloody horrific! |
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| 21:27.13 | CIA-9 | 03pb_ee1 * r59459 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Missing coma. |
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| 21:27.41 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r59460 10AlarBGHelper/ (5 files): |
| 21:27.41 | CIA-9 | AlarBGHelper |
| 21:27.41 | CIA-9 | 3.3.3 |
| 21:27.41 | CIA-9 | Feature: EOS now calculates flag taking rate, i.e. need n flag every second to win |
| 21:27.41 | CIA-9 | Fixed: Frostwolf timers now work for german version too. |
| 21:27.42 | CIA-9 | Fault was Blizzard, which for some esotic reason decided to call the towers sometimes ...liche , sometimes ...licher. |
| 21:27.45 | CIA-9 | I will ask cknight to fix GloryLibg, meanwhile the workaround is inside AlarBGHelper |
| 21:28.34 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: and that's why I'm never coming back :) |
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| 21:31.12 | LightShadow | Whoever handles WAU may want to consider adding some sanity checks. It's failing to update an addon and is just spamming, managed to download over 200MB in just 2 minutes. :P |
| 21:31.31 | Ozguli | lol |
| 21:33.15 | Julith | routes is nice! is there already some thinking on optimizing the routes by visitable spots per time? and further making these time-optimized routes optimizing themself by learning how often a spot could be gathered (time dependend :)...I'm starting dreaming xD |
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| 21:33.45 | Xinhuan | errrrrrr.... |
| 21:33.52 | Xinhuan | that's a bit overdoing it right? |
| 21:34.42 | Julith | hmm, dunno, of course it whould kinda industrialize farming, but I would like to see it implemented just to see if could be done |
| 21:35.16 | NightHawkTheSane | it'd require far too much work to figure eout which areas are node-groups, and how often they respawn :P |
| 21:36.27 | Julith | you shouldn't figure it, the addon should figured it out itself by learning while you farming the route |
| 21:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | thats nearly impossible to determine, thoough |
| 21:36.46 | Xinhuan | how heh |
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| 21:37.45 | stavmar_ | Xinhuan: what does this mena? |
| 21:37.48 | stavmar_ | [2008/01/26 15:36:53-1961-x1]: Routes\GatherMate.lua:11: attempt to index field 'plugins' (a nil value) |
| 21:37.59 | Julith | don't you get an event when looting herbs? the addon good look beneith which spot in the database you are at increasing its rating |
| 21:37.59 | stavmar_ | mean* |
| 21:38.26 | Julith | at = and |
| 21:38.33 | Xinhuan | it means your Routes.lua didn't load |
| 21:38.54 | Xinhuan | or something |
| 21:39.22 | stavmar_ | Xinhuan: weird |
| 21:39.26 | Xinhuan | Routes.plugins = {} is defined like at the very top of routes.lua |
| 21:40.21 | Xinhuan | so that table must exist |
| 21:40.41 | Xinhuan | unless that line didn't run/execute |
| 21:40.48 | Xinhuan | due to another error |
| 21:41.03 | Pkekyo| | Any idea why AutoBar will only show my teleports, and not my portals? |
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| 21:44.07 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r59461 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): |
| 21:44.07 | CIA-9 | BossTalk: |
| 21:44.07 | CIA-9 | -Huge Naxxramas & Scarlet Monastery Update, |
| 21:44.07 | CIA-9 | -changed the way favourites are stored due to structure changes of the data tables, so your old list is gone (sry for that!) |
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| 21:52.48 | Mezir|SemiAFK | good evening :D |
| 21:54.03 | Xinhuan | stavmar, did you figure out what went wrong? heh |
| 21:54.17 | Mezir|SemiAFK | me? |
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| 21:58.18 | stavmar_ | xin, i am actually trying to learn SVN tools so I can quickly get your revisions, and those for gatherMate |
| 21:58.25 | stavmar_ | Xinhuan: |
| 21:58.31 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 21:58.45 | Xinhuan | you need to checkout 2 things basically |
| 21:58.50 | Xinhuan | or 1 thing |
| 21:59.02 | stavmar_ | I must have made a mistake regarding the externals as I cannot figure out how to use Ace3 libs outside the respective mod folders to shorten load times |
| 21:59.12 | Xinhuan | if you want to run Routes with externals, then you "check out Routes with externals" |
| 21:59.41 | Xinhuan | if you want to run Routes without externals, then you have to "checkout Routes without externals", "checkout Ace3" and "checkout libbabble-zone" |
| 21:59.46 | stavmar_ | well I am using Tortoise and i think I really messed things up so i started over with, do i create teh folder "Routes" and then add teh repository |
| 21:59.55 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 22:00.03 | stavmar_ | ok |
| 22:00.06 | Xinhuan | you just rightclick on your Interface\AddOns\ |
| 22:00.09 | stavmar_ | ok |
| 22:00.10 | Xinhuan | and choose Checkout |
| 22:00.17 | stavmar_ | AND THEN ENTER TEH url |
| 22:00.22 | stavmar_ | sorry for the cpas |
| 22:00.25 | stavmar_ | caps |
| 22:00.26 | Xinhuan | and navigate to the branches\routes\ace3\routes |
| 22:00.30 | stavmar_ | ok |
| 22:00.38 | Xinhuan | and the checkout address should be Interface\AddOns\Routes\ |
| 22:00.41 | stavmar_ | then how do i update lets say tomorrow |
| 22:00.54 | Xinhuan | to update, you just rightclick on "Routes" and click "Update" |
| 22:01.03 | Xinhuan | that will checkout everything with externals |
| 22:01.23 | stavmar_ | So what is the solution for without externals? |
| 22:01.27 | Xinhuan | if you dont' want externals, you have to go into TSVN's submenu and choose "Update to revision..." and in the dialog box, "ignore externals" |
| 22:01.30 | stavmar_ | or do you advise not doing that |
| 22:01.33 | Xinhuan | and choose HEAD |
| 22:01.39 | stavmar_ | ok |
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| 22:03.17 | Mezir|SemiAFK | can i change the border texture directly in omen or do i habe to use eepanels? o_O |
| 22:03.29 | Antiarc | You'd have to use eepanels |
| 22:03.39 | stavmar_ | Wait Xinhuan if i choose SVN Checkout by clicking on the Interface/AddOns folder wont that not create the folder called Routes, it just adds the files from teh directed URL to the Interface/AddOns folder? |
| 22:04.11 | Mezir|SemiAFK | hm sad, thx |
| 22:04.35 | Xinhuan | E:\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Routes\ <-- checkout to here |
| 22:04.38 | Mezir|SemiAFK | antiarc you really a help to me ^^ |
| 22:04.45 | Xinhuan | or whereever your wow is installed |
| 22:04.46 | stavmar_ | exactly |
| 22:04.53 | stavmar_ | that is what i meant |
| 22:04.53 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i can ask and ask und you alway give me an answer |
| 22:04.59 | Xinhuan | it will ask you want to create the Routes\ folder |
| 22:05.00 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :D |
| 22:05.03 | Xinhuan | just do it |
| 22:05.32 | Xinhuan | if it already exists, make sure its empty |
| 22:05.32 | Mezir|SemiAFK | and is there a way to turn off screen clamp? |
| 22:05.32 | stavmar_ | i have yet to get that request |
| 22:05.32 | stavmar_ | about wanting to create teh folder |
| 22:05.39 | Mezir|SemiAFK | id like to move it 1or 2 mm out of screen |
| 22:05.48 | Antiarc | You'd have to manually turn off the clamp with uh |
| 22:05.49 | Antiarc | Let me see |
| 22:06.01 | Xinhuan | well if you do it wrong, just delete the folder |
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| 22:06.05 | Xinhuan | and the .svn folder ;p |
| 22:06.06 | stavmar_ | right |
| 22:06.19 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.22 | stavmar_ | so what do i need to download to let it run without externals |
| 22:06.39 | stavmar_ | Ace3/Beta |
| 22:06.46 | Xinhuan | you need... Routes w/o externals, Ace3/Beta (complete with externals) |
| 22:06.48 | stavmar_ | or the specific lib within it |
| 22:07.06 | stavmar_ | will that be available on the load screen of addons within WoW |
| 22:07.07 | Xinhuan | and lib-babble-zone-3.0, which i assume you alreadyhave |
| 22:07.19 | Xinhuan | if you install ace3 as a standalone addon (which you are) |
| 22:07.20 | Xinhuan | then yes |
| 22:07.26 | Mezir|SemiAFK | THANK YOU :D |
| 22:07.45 | stavmar_ | Xinhuan: are there any issues regarding the Beta folder and it not loading in teh game |
| 22:07.52 | Xinhuan | no? |
| 22:08.09 | stavmar_ | or will the libs load even if they are within the Ace3/Beta vs just Ace3 |
| 22:08.45 | Xinhuan | my ace3 folder is a direct checkout of http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/Beta |
| 22:08.53 | stavmar_ | that is my problem |
| 22:08.56 | stavmar_ | lol |
| 22:09.23 | Xinhuan | or in your case, you need to use svn.wowace.com |
| 22:09.28 | Xinhuan | unless you have a dev. acconut |
| 22:09.30 | stavmar_ | right |
| 22:09.37 | stavmar_ | do i sound like a dev, lol |
| 22:09.56 | stavmar_ | so i checked outfrom the svn and it created this directory |
| 22:09.57 | stavmar_ | C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Routes\Ace3 |
| 22:10.07 | stavmar_ | and your mod is within that Ace3 directory |
| 22:10.12 | stavmar_ | is that correct |
| 22:10.57 | Xinhuan | Routes is a no-external checkout from http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Routes/Ace3/ |
| 22:11.09 | stavmar_ | TY |
| 22:11.21 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: *svn.wowace.com/... |
| 22:11.30 | Xinhuan | i use dev. :) |
| 22:11.36 | Orionshock | they can't |
| 22:11.43 | Xinhuan | he can figure that out! |
| 22:11.44 | stavmar_ | yeah but i get it Orionshock |
| 22:11.51 | Orionshock | :d=S |
| 22:12.00 | Orionshock | *:D |
| 22:12.34 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59462 10Routes/ (Routes.lua TSP.lua): Routes: Tweak the clustering code to take into account radius/diameter properly |
| 22:13.46 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 22:13.52 | RaydenUni | took a nap and now i'm all tired |
| 22:14.51 | Xinhuan | similarly, if you checkout GatherMate, the address is |
| 22:15.06 | Xinhuan | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/GatherMate/ |
| 22:15.40 | stavmar_ | yup |
| 22:15.45 | Xinhuan | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/GatherMate_CartImport/ |
| 22:15.48 | Xinhuan | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/GatherMate_Data/ |
| 22:15.49 | stavmar_ | trying to get them all |
| 22:19.12 | Orionshock | stavmar_ if you setup WAU correctly, it'll keep your branch version addons up to date too :D |
| 22:19.45 | stavmar_ | how can I use WAU for .svn read only files, it will not let me change teh directory. at least I cannot |
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| 22:20.36 | charon | um... has omen unlearned how to reset threat on Zul'jin? i'm fairly sure it did so correctly last time (2 weeks ago?), but it doesn't seem to right now |
| 22:20.46 | Xinhuan | you can't heh |
| 22:21.02 | Grum | charon: make sure everyone is using omen :) |
| 22:21.04 | Xinhuan | WAU will automatically skip updating any folder with a .svn folder in it |
| 22:21.13 | Orionshock | charon: is the group leader running the latest version? |
| 22:21.18 | stavmar_ | yeah i would always use teh svn directory because I dont mind seeing mods break i would rather be on teh cutting edge |
| 22:21.27 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: by default yes it will... |
| 22:21.30 | charon | Orionshock: good point... |
| 22:21.42 | charon | will it be fixed if i take over the group leadership? |
| 22:21.45 | Orionshock | charon: threat clears are issued by group leader |
| 22:21.59 | charon | i'll try that, thanks |
| 22:22.25 | Antiarc | Anyone can issue an automated threat clear request |
| 22:22.33 | Antiarc | Manual requests can only be issued by leader + officers |
| 22:22.38 | Mezir|SemiAFK | Any Sites with eepanels border textures? =/ |
| 22:22.43 | Mezir|SemiAFK | can't find any working ones |
| 22:23.25 | NightHawkTheSane | its so depressing when l70 mages ask "how do i get in" (wrt CFR) |
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| 22:23.55 | Busko | heys all |
| 22:24.06 | Mezir|SemiAFK | blink>keys |
| 22:24.11 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :> |
| 22:24.14 | CIA-9 | 03starinnia * r59463 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: Prescription: Added the "Enlightened" food buff |
| 22:24.22 | Busko | i got a fubarquestion |
| 22:24.31 | Mezir|SemiAFK | ? |
| 22:24.39 | Busko | for somereson my locationFu is around my minimap now and not in my fubar |
| 22:25.07 | Mezir|SemiAFK | maybe there's another bar? |
| 22:25.13 | Mezir|SemiAFK | and you pulled it down there |
| 22:25.16 | Keias | You should be able to right click the minimap button and uncheck "Attach to Minimap" |
| 22:25.24 | Keias | And it'll go back to your Fubar |
| 22:25.25 | Mezir|SemiAFK | durr <_< |
| 22:25.39 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :( im still a noob in ui questions... |
| 22:25.47 | Busko | dont have a option like that |
| 22:26.03 | Mezir|SemiAFK | err |
| 22:26.16 | Mezir|SemiAFK | grab it and pull it in the fubar you want it to be in? |
| 22:26.19 | stavmar_ | Xinhuan and Orionshock thankyou both for your help it seems to be working well know thanks to Tortoise and your help |
| 22:26.30 | Busko | dosent work either Mezir tryed that too |
| 22:27.28 | Mezir|SemiAFK | k |
| 22:27.29 | Mezir|SemiAFK | rightklick on an empty space on your fubar |
| 22:27.30 | Busko | but it might have something to do when i updated fubar 2 again i got the Addon Preferences by minimap now dident have that before |
| 22:27.35 | Mezir|SemiAFK | deselect it? |
| 22:28.11 | Busko | hmm dosnet show location fu under any of the catogaris |
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| 22:28.55 | Busko | you know it look likes it no loger is a Fubar addon |
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| 22:30.09 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i had the same thing with addon prefrences |
| 22:30.10 | Orionshock | Busko: i think location fu is a fubar3 addon and won't work with fb2 |
| 22:30.15 | Gngsk | nymbia, ping |
| 22:30.23 | Mezir|SemiAFK | it showed again after i relogged |
| 22:30.25 | Mezir|SemiAFK | but in your case... |
| 22:30.38 | Busko | hmm |
| 22:30.38 | charon | Antiarc, Orionshock: leader change fixed the problem (i wasn't an officer before, either) |
| 22:30.56 | Busko | ok well it wa fubar addon before ^^ hehe as i used it with it :P |
| 22:31.07 | Mezir|SemiAFK | k my turn, questions: I can't find the Assessment Partent o_O |
| 22:31.12 | Orionshock | fubar is in version 3 with rock, so... upgrade? |
| 22:31.12 | charon | leader is running 57xxx. i guess you need some kind of promotion to issue requests after all? |
| 22:31.12 | Mezir|SemiAFK | *Parent |
| 22:31.52 | Busko | oh fubar 3 out ? |
| 22:32.14 | charon | s/requests/resets/ |
| 22:32.31 | Orionshock | Fubar version 3 is based on Rock Libs and is in the main "FuBar" folder on the svn/files site |
| 22:33.17 | Busko | i dont know much about it |
| 22:33.26 | Busko | i was looking on wowace and dident see it there |
| 22:35.16 | Xinhuan | oops i just killed my wow by running |
| 22:35.21 | Xinhuan | for i = 1, 1/0 do |
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| 22:37.15 | Orionshock | u'd think wow would have a ERROR! Divide by Zero.. |
| 22:37.16 | NightHawkTheSane | good job |
| 22:37.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Mezir|SemiAFK: he didn't even know how to get down into CFR, from out in zangar >< |
| 22:39.44 | Mezir|SemiAFK | lol :> |
| 22:40.01 | Mezir|SemiAFK | but thats not this common |
| 22:40.15 | Mezir|SemiAFK | mages > warriors in intelligence |
| 22:40.19 | Mezir|SemiAFK | if you know what i mean |
| 22:40.20 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :> |
| 22:40.55 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i had more problems with warriors than with mages or any class that doesnt simply bash its enemy down |
| 22:42.12 | nymbia | Gngsk: pong |
| 22:49.14 | Primer | !rating 1521 |
| 22:49.14 | Xinhuan | 1521 rating gives 367(5s), 323(3s) and 279(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:49.18 | Primer | sigh... |
| 22:49.24 | Primer | my 2v2 sucks |
| 22:50.06 | Primer | I guess right now is not a good time for arena...we're 1-4 |
| 22:50.12 | Primer | err 1-3 |
| 22:51.30 | Xinhuan | lua> 1++2 |
| 22:51.31 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "1++2"]:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 22:51.43 | Xinhuan | lua> +1+2 |
| 22:51.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "+1+2"]:1: unexpected symbol near '+' |
| 22:52.04 | SunTsu | Ha, great, finally got WoW under Wine/FreeBSD running. |
| 22:52.22 | ramoz | is it normal that pitbul shows my partyfram when there's only 5 ppl in thbe raid? |
| 22:53.02 | ramoz | nevermind |
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| 22:59.54 | Primer | !rating 1506 |
| 22:59.55 | Xinhuan | 1506 rating gives 350(5s), 308(3s) and 266(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:59.55 | Pkekyo| | there's nothing as soothing as high dB In Flames :) |
| 22:59.58 | Primer | :( |
| 23:00.12 | Primer | !rating 1600 |
| 23:00.13 | Xinhuan | 1600 rating gives 465(5s), 409(3s) and 353(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 23:01.06 | Neebler | !ap 2119 |
| 23:01.06 | ThraeBot | Neebler: Arena points from a rating of 2119 is, 2v2: 907, 3v3: 1051, 5v5: 1194 |
| 23:02.09 | kergoth | anyone know of an addon to remember what a character had posted at the ah, away from the ah or on other chars? i can never remember what sold when i logged into the bank last, so i dont remember what to craft |
| 23:02.09 | kergoth | heh |
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| 23:07.24 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 23:07.41 | Xinhuan | its not really possible to track what has sold or has not sold, without visiting the AH on that character |
| 23:08.12 | Xinhuan | if you posted 50 auctions, and remember them by an addon |
| 23:08.14 | Gngsk | nymbia, was wondering if you ever had a chance to look at the manufac snoop error I mentioned a few weeks ago. |
| 23:08.24 | Xinhuan | when you next login on it, you might only have sold 20 of those |
| 23:08.35 | Xinhuan | and you won't know until you visit AH to see the 30 still up |
| 23:09.30 | nymbia | Gngsk: i remember that.. i thought i had looked at it, but i don't remember what i found |
| 23:09.42 | Xinhuan | nymbia, get to work on Quartz/Ace3 :) |
| 23:09.58 | Gngsk | ah, okay. well I really miss the snoopability! a fix would be much appreciated |
| 23:10.02 | nymbia | once i finish moving :D |
| 23:10.09 | Xinhuan | slack! |
| 23:10.12 | Gngsk | ahh, moving etc, sounds like fun |
| 23:10.13 | nymbia | true. |
| 23:10.43 | nymbia | yeah.. couch fell off the truck today |
| 23:10.48 | nymbia | fun indeed ;) |
| 23:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. you don't need a couch to code, slacker! :D |
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| 23:11.08 | nymbia | that's why it was going away |
| 23:11.22 | NightHawkTheSane | oh. touché, salesman. |
| 23:11.41 | nymbia | we don't have the new place til monday, we're getting rid of furniture we don't want anymore |
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| 23:13.37 | Mezir|SemiAFK | errrr |
| 23:13.37 | Mezir|SemiAFK | little question |
| 23:13.45 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i use omen and assessment at the moment, but assessmet seems to have a built in threat-meter o_o is this right? |
| 23:13.54 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 23:14.01 | Mezir|SemiAFK | so why am i using omen |
| 23:14.02 | Mezir|SemiAFK | o_O |
| 23:14.02 | NightHawkTheSane | they both use the same underlying library |
| 23:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | hell if i know? |
| 23:14.24 | Mezir|SemiAFK | xD |
| 23:14.27 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59464 10Routes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Routes: Localize all the new strings used, and also provide better clustering information in the Information tab. |
| 23:14.45 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i mean like i could JUST use assessment and this would do the job of both, right? |
| 23:14.52 | Orionshock | yes |
| 23:14.56 | Mezir|SemiAFK | sweet |
| 23:15.10 | Mezir|SemiAFK | hm but it lacks the ,,AGGRO'' sound |
| 23:15.19 | Orionshock | too bad assessment only displays threat, and dosn't actually track it |
| 23:15.48 | Ozguli | I don't need sound |
| 23:15.50 | Xinhuan | doesn't assessment only display global threat, rather than threat on your current target? |
| 23:15.50 | Mezir|SemiAFK | what are you trying to say me with that? (sorry im no native english speaker :( ) |
| 23:15.55 | Xinhuan | i'm nto sure |
| 23:16.00 | Ozguli | "WARNING blabla" in the middle of my screen is good enough |
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| 23:16.18 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: it switches per target like omen |
| 23:16.22 | Mezir|SemiAFK | so assessment can't work as a threat meter or what? |
| 23:16.22 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 23:16.23 | sb_ | *sigh* |
| 23:16.25 | sb_ | *selfstab* |
| 23:16.45 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r59465 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: Bugfix @ sync, Deadmines added |
| 23:16.46 | sb_ | just ordered an http://www.nabaztag.com :/ |
| 23:17.43 | Mezir|SemiAFK | WTF? |
| 23:17.46 | sb_ | %-) |
| 23:17.49 | Mezir|SemiAFK | WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!? xD |
| 23:17.58 | sb_ | <3 geek toy :p |
| 23:18.03 | Mezir|SemiAFK | THATS SO |
| 23:18.05 | Mezir|SemiAFK | ERRR |
| 23:18.13 | Mezir|SemiAFK | unnecessary |
| 23:18.13 | Mezir|SemiAFK | xD |
| 23:18.13 | nymbia | lol |
| 23:18.24 | sb_ | ofc it is |
| 23:18.42 | Keias | when it said rabbit |
| 23:18.47 | Keias | I was totally thinking of something different |
| 23:19.18 | Mezir|SemiAFK | ok back 2 topic pls |
| 23:19.36 | Mezir|SemiAFK | so would assessment work as a threat meter or not? |
| 23:19.45 | Xinhuan | why don't you use it and tell us |
| 23:19.46 | Mezir|SemiAFK | or do i still heave to use omen |
| 23:20.17 | Mezir|SemiAFK | q.q |
| 23:20.21 | Keias | lol |
| 23:20.33 | nymbia | as long as threat is still there |
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| 23:27.21 | TNSe | kay... weird bug, sometimes on my hunter, autoshots stop working |
| 23:27.26 | TNSe | and I cannot feed pet nor press escape |
| 23:27.52 | Mezir|SemiAFK | tried it |
| 23:28.07 | Mezir|SemiAFK | seems to work just fine (assessment threat-meter) |
| 23:28.35 | charon | wtb "druids continuously screwed over by ZA" support group |
| 23:30.13 | Keias | Thats what you get for being a druid imo! |
| 23:30.18 | Mezir|SemiAFK | can it communicate with oder threat meters? |
| 23:30.25 | Mezir|SemiAFK | thats the only question left for me |
| 23:30.32 | Mezir|SemiAFK | *other |
| 23:30.41 | Orionshock | Mezir|SemiAFK: you mis understand how it works |
| 23:30.56 | Orionshock | threat-1.0 is the "ThreatMeter" part of it |
| 23:30.59 | Keias | If you have the threat library installed |
| 23:31.07 | Keias | It will communicate with all threat maters |
| 23:31.13 | Orionshock | Omen and assessment are only displays of Threat-1.0 |
| 23:31.24 | Keias | Incorporating it into Assessment, just allows YOU to see it |
| 23:31.39 | Keias | Threat-1.0 is what calculates the values for you and everyone in your group |
| 23:31.53 | Keias | Think of it as like, a cable box |
| 23:32.07 | Keias | And you need a TV to view it. Or in your case, you're using Assessment to view it |
| 23:34.09 | charon | Keias: i get free support groups for being a druid? |
| 23:34.14 | Mezir|SemiAFK | are you trying to tell me something bad? |
| 23:34.25 | Keias | No, you get to suffer for being a druid, charon! :D |
| 23:34.29 | Keias | and no, Mezir|SemiAFK |
| 23:34.30 | Mezir|SemiAFK | cuz i can't find anything in the stuff you wrote me |
| 23:34.48 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i understand it like |
| 23:34.55 | Mezir|SemiAFK | every threat meter only displays it |
| 23:34.58 | Mezir|SemiAFK | its the same thing |
| 23:35.17 | Mezir|SemiAFK | o.o or did i miss something |
| 23:35.37 | Mezir|SemiAFK | (sorry but its hard for me to argue in english) |
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| 23:35.52 | Keias | lol |
| 23:35.54 | Keias | Just uh |
| 23:36.06 | Keias | Make sure you have Threat-1.0 and you should be ok |
| 23:36.14 | charon | Mezir|SemiAFK: there are actually at least two different threat meters around, KTM and Threat-1.0. KTM does its own display; Threat-1.0 data can be displayed by Omen, Assessment, Recount, and probably others |
| 23:36.18 | Keias | I dunno how else to explain it :( |
| 23:36.33 | Mezir|SemiAFK | so threat-1.0 |
| 23:36.35 | Mezir|SemiAFK | IS an addon |
| 23:36.44 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i need to make assessment display it correct |
| 23:36.59 | Mezir|SemiAFK | right or wrong? |
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| 23:37.37 | Mezir|SemiAFK | but why can omen then communicate with ktm |
| 23:37.44 | Mezir|SemiAFK | if its a diffrent kind of threat meter |
| 23:37.44 | charon | it has compatibility code |
| 23:37.50 | charon | well, threat-1.0 has KTM compat code |
| 23:37.51 | Orionshock | it can but ktm has issues with it |
| 23:38.03 | Mezir|SemiAFK | so you just tell me |
| 23:38.10 | charon | omen just displays it, and also KTM threat data is worthless in so many situations that you're better off forcing everyone to use threat-1.0 |
| 23:38.27 | Mezir|SemiAFK | to get the threat 1.0 thingy ant then it should work as T-M just like omen would do |
| 23:38.29 | Orionshock | don't use KTM with threat, they in all honesty don't play nicely together |
| 23:39.11 | Xinhuan | they dont' play nicely because omen and KTM records different things, and the numbers are slightly different |
| 23:39.31 | Mezir|SemiAFK | do i have to set anything up in threat 1.0 |
| 23:39.34 | Xinhuan | so while they can send/receive messages to each other, the numbers are generally not all that useful |
| 23:40.02 | Xinhuan | no |
| 23:40.05 | charon | also, taunting off a ktm user who has way high global threat cannot possibly give useful results |
| 23:40.44 | Mezir|SemiAFK | assesment+threat1.0=FineThreadMeter |
| 23:40.50 | Mezir|SemiAFK | ? |
| 23:40.59 | Pkekyo| | hmm...maybe I should change my surname to McFuckstick? :) |
| 23:41.49 | charon | Mezir|SemiAFK: yes. consider beating up everyone in your guild with an "install threat-1.0" stick as a next step |
| 23:43.21 | Mezir|SemiAFK | why should they need it, too? |
| 23:43.29 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i mean |
| 23:43.30 | Mezir|SemiAFK | k |
| 23:43.44 | Mezir|SemiAFK | it their threat-meters have to communicate with mine |
| 23:43.53 | Mezir|SemiAFK | but i thought it could do that |
| 23:44.03 | Mezir|SemiAFK | without everybody using threat1.0 |
| 23:44.17 | Mezir|SemiAFK | *if |
| 23:44.28 | Orionshock | dude, the 2 can talk to each other, but ones in metric and the other one is in standard |
| 23:44.37 | Orionshock | and no one gives a dam enough to convert properly |
| 23:45.31 | Xinhuan | mainly because the recorded data is different enough for any conversion to be meaningless |
| 23:45.32 | Mezir|SemiAFK | so it would be imprecise ? |
| 23:45.36 | charon | and blizzard is NASA and crashes your probes |
| 23:45.40 | Xinhuan | Threat-1.0 records data on a per-mod basis |
| 23:45.47 | Xinhuan | ktm records data on a global basis |
| 23:45.52 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.11 | Mezir|SemiAFK | imprecise or total bullsh** |
| 23:46.17 | Xinhuan | so the 2 numbers recorded are MEANINGLESS when compared to each other, unless there is *exactly* 1 mob in the entire fight |
| 23:46.51 | Xinhuan | that's why your entire raid should be using all-ktm, or all-threat |
| 23:46.55 | Mezir|SemiAFK | omen vs ktm would be the same shit |
| 23:46.58 | Mezir|SemiAFK | or? |
| 23:47.07 | Nyri | threat is watchin ktm data? why? |
| 23:47.12 | Xinhuan | using one with the other would just confuse the 2 meters with each other |
| 23:47.32 | Orionshock | Mezir|SemiAFK: forget omen, it's just a display... you could re write KTM's gui to display threat data. it's threat vs KTM |
| 23:47.42 | Mezir|SemiAFK | k |
| 23:47.48 | charon | Nyri: so i can see if that stubborn warlock who is still running KTM --despite all the pleads-- is overaggroing |
| 23:48.09 | Orionshock | charon: /raid-kick /gkick |
| 23:48.22 | Orionshock | if you cannot follow directions find a new raid |
| 23:48.59 | Mezir|SemiAFK | whats more accurate than |
| 23:48.59 | Zhinjio | also... regardless of what else you may say about the various threat meters... ultimately, if he's over-aggroing, he sucks at his class. lrn2play |
| 23:49.02 | Mezir|SemiAFK | threat or ktm |
| 23:49.04 | charon | that's not in my power to do unfortunately, and nobody ever listens to druids |
| 23:49.15 | charon | Mezir|SemiAFK: threat, hands down |
| 23:49.51 | Nyri | hm, if he stacks up dots with ktm on 5 targets he will be #1 on every single target in threat? |
| 23:50.04 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 23:50.05 | Wobin | Threat is more accurate in encounters with multiple mobs of different names. In encounters with multiple mobs with the same names, they're both inaccurate =) |
| 23:50.12 | charon | Mezir|SemiAFK: KTM is worthless after the first target change or aggro reset, which accounts for probably >90% of the fights out there |
| 23:50.13 | Antiarc | KTM bundles all the threat you do everywhere to gether |
| 23:50.23 | Nyri | can i turn that off? |
| 23:50.30 | Nyri | dont watching ktm data? |
| 23:50.30 | Wobin | in ktm? good luck =) |
| 23:50.37 | charon | Antiarc: seen what i wrote about sending resets? seems it had something to do with leadership after all |
| 23:50.37 | Nyri | in threat |
| 23:50.39 | Antiarc | You can turn off display of KTM-sourced data in Omen |
| 23:50.46 | Wobin | Well that doesn't help as a raid leader |
| 23:50.49 | Antiarc | charon: I'll check the module. It's probably using the wrong method. |
| 23:50.52 | Nyri | oh thats nice to know |
| 23:50.57 | Nyri | ;) |
| 23:51.14 | Primer | !rating 1555 |
| 23:51.14 | Xinhuan | 1555 rating gives 407(5s), 358(3s) and 309(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 23:51.20 | charon | Antiarc: oh i'm not saying you need to change it, seeing as everyone should have the newest version anyway, i was just saying because you thought it worked the other way |
| 23:51.57 | Mezir|SemiAFK | so im gonna use threat 1.0 + assassment and be happy |
| 23:52.01 | Mezir|SemiAFK | thank you guys |
| 23:52.29 | Mezir|SemiAFK | seems every meter sucks in its way |
| 23:52.35 | Mezir|SemiAFK | but this sucks a lil less |
| 23:52.36 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :P |
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| 23:52.59 | Chompers | whats wrong with Omen :S |
| 23:53.07 | charon | Mezir|SemiAFK: threat-1.0 is strictly better in some places, and nowhere worse, than ktm |
| 23:54.08 | charon | btw Antiarc: color change branch and all that? :) |
| 23:54.11 | Mezir|SemiAFK | @Chompres i think assessment just looks more nice |
| 23:54.20 | Mezir|SemiAFK | lol |
| 23:54.21 | Mezir|SemiAFK | more nice |
| 23:54.22 | Mezir|SemiAFK | xD |
| 23:54.24 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i mean better |
| 23:54.32 | Mezir|SemiAFK | doh |
| 23:55.04 | Mezir|SemiAFK | goin to take a leak xD waaay to much dew |
| 23:55.17 | Mezir|SemiAFK | and its so f'n expensive over here |
| 23:55.22 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :( |
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