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| 00:00.13 | hypetech | pitbull is still spewing dogtag errors :p |
| 00:00.49 | copystring | cowtip aswell |
| 00:00.56 | Aens|Superiority | yeah |
| 00:01.00 | Aens|Superiority | none of it works! |
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| 00:02.54 | Stanzilla | wait till the server updates the files |
| 00:03.34 | Gnarfoz | no, cry more now, before it's fixed |
| 00:04.43 | kergoth | Firelemming: arrays have keys, they're just numeric, not strings. |
| 00:05.00 | Kivin | that's one hell of an assumption |
| 00:05.03 | kergoth | Firelemming: besides, foo(a = b) is invalid lua syntax, you can't pass an assignmen tto a function, only a value |
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| 00:05.11 | durcyn | ckknight: 2320: bad argument #3 to '?' (string expected, got no value) |
| 00:05.27 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59784 10ASSinTrade/: |
| 00:05.27 | CIA-9 | ASSinTrade: |
| 00:05.27 | CIA-9 | - modified svn:externals property |
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| 00:09.15 | Wobin | ... I read that as Crash Hamster |
| 00:09.30 | Wobin | and thought: "That's a cool name!" |
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| 00:13.19 | Killmore2 | ckknight: couple of error after I did the r59783 LibDogTag-2.0 update |
| 00:13.39 | copystring | it just got updated |
| 00:14.01 | genetik | 59783 is the latest revision of it |
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| 00:19.29 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59785 10StatBlocks/ (Libs/ StatBlocks.toc embeds.xml): StatBlocks: setup embeds |
| 00:20.02 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59786 10ASSinTrade/ASSinTrade.toc: |
| 00:20.02 | CIA-9 | ASSinTrade: |
| 00:20.03 | CIA-9 | - Added X-Embeds to TOC file |
| 00:20.04 | testify | Anyone else having a problem with Pitbull loading the frames, but nothing within the frames? |
| 00:20.15 | durcyn | dogtag is still a bit broken |
| 00:20.20 | durcyn | ckknight: 2320: bad argument #3 to '?' (string expected, got no value) |
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| 00:20.41 | Aens|Superiority | testify: wait for a dogtag that is newer than r59783 |
| 00:21.18 | Aens|Superiority | or unless someone has an older version on hand to do a temp fix |
| 00:21.28 | genetik | r59757 seems to be ok |
| 00:21.35 | genetik | i reverted back to that |
| 00:21.53 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, I reverted, then updated to r59783, and it overwrote my backup :( |
| 00:22.42 | Aens|Superiority | genetik: can you put up 59757 somewhere? We're starting a ZA bear run soon >.< |
| 00:22.46 | genetik | uh |
| 00:22.55 | genetik | http://files.wowace.com/LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0-r59757.zip |
| 00:23.01 | Aens|Superiority | oh, heh |
| 00:23.01 | copystring | you can always revert from files.wowace.com |
| 00:25.42 | durcyn | Ellipsis--: should wake ck up imo :o |
| 00:26.04 | Stanzilla | they are watching a movie |
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| 00:29.10 | EvilJohn | yeah reverting worked well for me |
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| 00:32.08 | Starinnia | urgh... looking at how i coded the core of SimpleMD makes me cringe now |
| 00:32.10 | Starinnia | so messy |
| 00:32.55 | Wobin | Starinnia: hehe First stage is admitting there was a problem =) |
| 00:33.08 | Wobin | Welcome to refactoring =) |
| 00:34.06 | Starinnia | it almost needs a complete rewrite, thats how bad of a coder I was |
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| 00:34.22 | hypetech | well it's closer to working, at least I see shaded boxes where my frames should be now :p |
| 00:34.34 | hypetech | what rev of pitbull is good to revert to? |
| 00:35.30 | genetik | http://files.wowace.com/LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0-r59757.zip |
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| 00:35.48 | hypetech | I use "with externals" :( |
| 00:37.03 | Aens|Superiority | 59451 |
| 00:38.54 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59787 10StatBlocks/embeds.xml: StatBlocks: fix embeds |
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| 00:41.37 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r59788 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: Hyjal, Arcatraz, Mechanar, Molten Core, Black Temple Update, some memory enhancements |
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| 00:42.41 | ckknight_ | hey all, back |
| 00:42.55 | array{Endeavour} | wb :> |
| 00:43.01 | genetik | good movie? |
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| 00:44.03 | ckknight_ | genetik: it was okay |
| 00:44.06 | ckknight_ | feel-good and all |
| 00:44.20 | ckknight_ | I'd recommend it if you're looking for a feel-good movie |
| 00:44.24 | genetik | which one was it again? |
| 00:44.29 | ckknight_ | Bella |
| 00:44.32 | genetik | ah |
| 00:44.51 | genetik | oh.. r59776 seems to have broke LibDogTag |
| 00:45.44 | ckknight_ | yea, I tested the wrong version before committing, working on it now |
| 00:45.57 | genetik | cool |
| 00:46.06 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59789 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix issues with the doc commit |
| 00:47.18 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59790 10LibBanzai-2.0/LibBanzai-2.0.lua: LibBanzai-2.0: Only update the roster when we have to. |
| 00:48.46 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59791 10ASSinTrade/ (. ASSinTrade.toc): |
| 00:48.46 | CIA-9 | ASSinTrade: |
| 00:48.46 | CIA-9 | - TOC: Added OptionalDeps, changed X-Date to have $Date$, and added X-Revision |
| 00:48.46 | CIA-9 | - Fixed up some errors in the svn:externals |
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| 00:49.34 | deltron | who broke libdogtag? :( |
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| 00:49.44 | Stanzilla | your mum |
| 00:49.47 | genetik | fix was just committed, deltron |
| 00:49.49 | deltron | and other mods :P |
| 00:49.52 | deltron | yaaay |
| 00:50.08 | genetik | at least i assume that's what he meant in his comment |
| 00:50.09 | genetik | heh |
| 00:50.18 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 00:50.24 | Ellipsis | that should fix all the errors |
| 00:50.28 | Ellipsis | this time he tested the *right* copy |
| 00:51.14 | genetik | win |
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| 00:52.17 | Estil | oh wow lol: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9686/04122007herjobwp1.jpg |
| 00:52.54 | Kivin | :D!! |
| 00:53.15 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 00:53.29 | Ellipsis | was the circle really necessary? |
| 00:54.04 | Estil | the guy must have wanted to emphasize. |
| 00:54.04 | deltron | guy's don't read tags |
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| 01:17.29 | potemkin | do partNpets have to be updated through onupdate? |
| 01:19.10 | kagaro | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 01:19.11 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 46m 11s ago, saying: 'yeah'. |
| 01:19.42 | Funkeh` | gn |
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| 01:22.00 | ckknight | potemkin: no |
| 01:22.14 | ckknight | potemkin: and it's partypetN |
| 01:22.24 | ckknight | potemkin: raidpetN does need to be updated through onupdate, though |
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| 01:24.37 | ckknight | I'm thinking of the best way to show the DogTag help... |
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| 01:42.24 | rubik | is it possible for an addon to show time left on crowd controlled (by someone in your raid) targets? |
| 01:42.35 | Diao | necb does |
| 01:42.39 | Diao | by combat log events though |
| 01:43.03 | rubik | yeah, i was trying to think how an addon would know how long is left on, say, a sheep |
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| 01:52.46 | baer_ | moin. |
| 01:52.57 | baer_ | i need some help with identifing an addon. |
| 01:53.21 | baer_ | http://pwnyhof.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/cts.jpg <-- what ace-addon changes the playername like this? |
| 01:53.54 | dylanm | Changes it? |
| 01:54.26 | baer_ | jup, the font doesn't seem to be the original one. |
| 01:54.50 | dylanm | Oh that. The ClearFont "step two" is probably what does that. |
| 01:54.59 | baer_ | and the type it's shown is "<name>, <player_title>\n <guild>" |
| 01:55.03 | dylanm | That's just copying some files around. |
| 01:55.07 | dylanm | Well that's the default format. |
| 01:55.12 | dylanm | Isn't it? |
| 01:55.16 | baer_ | no |
| 01:55.19 | dylanm | I mean if you turn on "titles" and "guild". |
| 01:55.32 | baer_ | default is "<title> <name>\n <guild>". |
| 01:55.41 | Ellipsis-- | baer_: champion of the naaru is special that way |
| 01:55.44 | dylanm | Champion of the Naaru works differently. |
| 01:55.48 | Ellipsis-- | other titles are prefixes, it's a suffix |
| 01:56.24 | baer_ | oh, ok. |
| 01:56.32 | baer_ | didn't knew that. oO |
| 01:56.51 | baer_ | ok, and what about the different font style? clearfont2 doesn't change that font for me. |
| 01:56.54 | buu | Ellipsis--: did you figure out my problem with parrot? |
| 01:57.01 | dylanm | Like I said, "step two". |
| 01:57.06 | Ellipsis-- | you had a problem with parrot, buu? |
| 01:57.29 | Kirkburn | Step Two: http://www.clearfont.co.uk/readme.html#Install |
| 01:57.45 | Kirkburn | I really should get around to do an update soon |
| 01:57.54 | Kirkburn | It's not as if I've gone anywhere :P |
| 01:58.07 | baer_ | Kirkburn: thanks. |
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| 02:00.18 | baer_ | i'm unsure - what's the font used for the nameplates? |
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| 02:00.59 | cralor_ | is there a Curse "button" to link to wow.curse.com? if not i think i can do with a curse image. do you have that? |
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| 02:15.08 | buu | Ellipsis--: You were going to replace JIM's with parrot. |
| 02:15.12 | buu | Ellipsis--: But you didn't have it handy. |
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| 02:17.22 | Ellipsis-- | buu: I still don't have it handy, and I still am perfectly happy to walk you through setting it up |
| 02:17.36 | Ellipsis-- | unfortunately I can't do it for you :P |
| 02:17.47 | buu | Ellipsis--: Ok, where do I go to create a center icon based on proc? |
| 02:17.54 | Mudkipz | amazon doesn't charge sales tax on CA buyers do they? |
| 02:18.03 | Ellipsis-- | buu: which proc? |
| 02:18.08 | buu | Ellipsis--: Focus |
| 02:18.19 | Ellipsis-- | go create a custom trigger for it |
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| 02:19.58 | Ellipsis-- | if you're still using the default scroll areas, you can put it in the notification area for now |
| 02:21.28 | Estil | pizza! |
| 02:23.29 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59793 10IPopBar/ (Bindings.xml IPopBar.lua): IPopBar: Cleanup code, make bindings work in keybinds menu, button code now works |
| 02:24.53 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59794 10IPopBar/ (. embeds.xml): IPopBar: Remove AceDB dependency |
| 02:29.35 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r59795 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: Bugfix, lots of updates. Currently about 400 quotes in database |
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| 02:38.16 | aestil | is pitbull working? |
| 02:38.22 | aestil | or should i not update currently? |
| 02:38.36 | aestil | Ellipsis--: whats with the little characters after your name now? |
| 02:38.56 | Ellipsis-- | bad connection, I keep having to use alternate nicks to reconnect |
| 02:39.03 | aestil | sucks. |
| 02:39.05 | Ellipsis-- | and yes, pitbull is all happy and working again |
| 02:39.09 | aestil | ok. |
| 02:39.44 | aestil | i've decided that its bad to be better than your GM and play the same class/spec. it creates a lot of friction. |
| 02:40.27 | aestil | whats better btw? icon of silver crescent and the trinket off of malacrass, or blessings deck and trinket off of malacrass? |
| 02:40.44 | Ellipsis-- | depends on the situation |
| 02:42.13 | aestil | liez |
| 02:42.14 | Ellipsis-- | YMMV because your spells are different, but I find the icon to be better even on some bosses just because of the pop |
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| 02:48.41 | buu | aestil: I think crusade/hex |
| 02:48.43 | buu | For a spriest. |
| 02:50.46 | aestil | i have icon/blessigns deck right now. |
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| 02:52.14 | aestil | Xinhuan: you don't mean when ace3 is finished, you mean when ace3 pushes to trunk? |
| 02:52.22 | Xinhuan | pretty much |
| 02:52.28 | Xinhuan | they mean the same thing |
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| 02:58.48 | Xinhuan | well i think which is better depends on the boss aestil |
| 02:59.18 | Xinhuan | icon is "poppable" so you choose when to maximise the benefit -- good for fights that require a lot of pausing, movement, or disengage |
| 02:59.22 | aestil | Xinhuan: you guys still farm hyjal? |
| 02:59.34 | Xinhuan | the deck is better for fights that dont' require movement at all |
| 02:59.44 | Xinhuan | yah |
| 02:59.46 | aestil | seems like there are less and less of those. |
| 02:59.58 | aestil | ima transfer over, and pick up the 6 pieces i need out of hyjal from you guys, kk? |
| 03:00.05 | buu | Yeah |
| 03:00.07 | buu | I like that idea. |
| 03:00.10 | buu | Can I come? |
| 03:00.16 | aestil | l2be alliance. |
| 03:00.18 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 03:00.28 | buu | =[ |
| 03:00.31 | dylanm | Ew but why |
| 03:00.34 | buu | Dirty filthy alliance. |
| 03:00.40 | buu | dylanm: So you can win at pve apparently. |
| 03:00.40 | aestil | need bracers, legs, trash mace, trash cloak, belt, and both T6. |
| 03:02.03 | aestil | i'm my guilds best Spriest if that helps. |
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| 03:48.50 | JoshBorke | yay, attempting kael |
| 03:49.06 | JoshBorke | aestil: i changed guilds |
| 03:51.25 | Gngsk | g'luck |
| 04:03.33 | xyu | win phase 3 , win the encounter imo |
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| 04:20.53 | aestil | xyu: for us it was P4 that was the 'frustrating phase' |
| 04:22.03 | aestil | i think thats because a lot of people said what you just said, and when p3 was 'easy' for us, p4 was like lol MC sucks! |
| 04:22.42 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59797 10IPopBar/ (. IPopBar.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua embeds.xml): IPopBar: Fix taint issue, remove AceConfig/Gui/Console dependencies. |
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| 04:30.33 | xyu | aestil: well, imo, if phase 3 goes smoothly it makes the transition to 4 much easier. if 3 gets done but sloppy then phase 4 gets out of hand fast. But you said you did P3 easily so i'm not sure what the prob would be w/ P4 ^^ |
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| 04:31.50 | Gngsk | prot warrior, and 2 hunters with daggers mh spamming r1 wing clip and sunder armor makes MC easy |
| 04:33.10 | aestil | not handling the MC's |
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| 04:36.53 | JoshBorke | having trouble with the pheonixes |
| 04:36.59 | JoshBorke | and MC |
| 04:37.04 | JoshBorke | can only get 3 adds down in phase 3 |
| 04:38.16 | aestil | Gngsk: yeah, P4 is easy now, but when we had problems with the fight it was because of like 'instant wipes' in P4 |
| 04:38.41 | JoshBorke | can MT be MC'd or do they have to lose aggro for that to happen? |
| 04:40.27 | Xinhuan | i haven' seen MT get MCed before |
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| 04:42.49 | ScoTTie | its always fun when you get your MT teleported onto a flamestrike with aussie lag ;\ |
| 04:42.57 | aestil | MT can get disoriented if he doesn't have the staff buff. |
| 04:43.28 | Xinhuan | he should always have the staff buff :) |
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| 04:47.54 | JoshBorke | my first night on KT, it's fun |
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| 04:48.26 | xyu | yeah TK is much better than SSC. |
| 04:48.31 | xyu | SSC just feels so long and boring |
| 04:48.37 | aestil | KT is the best fight in the game. |
| 04:48.42 | aestil | for me. |
| 04:48.44 | aestil | so far. |
| 04:48.49 | aestil | havn't done council or illidian yet. |
| 04:49.01 | xyu | c'thun was my fav so far, still to this day |
| 04:49.08 | JoshBorke | i dps'd hydross and lurker and first 2 attempts of KT with rank 1 MF :-( |
| 04:49.19 | aestil | lot of people say that. i stopped AQ'40 at twin emps and went to nax. |
| 04:49.28 | aestil | you're dumb JoshBorke ? |
| 04:49.36 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 04:49.45 | xyu | nothing like getting eaten by a huge tentacle and slapped into a pit of acid where you have to kill 4 dangly things :) |
| 04:50.03 | xyu | also keeping an eye out for the big eyes always kept one on their toes. |
| 04:50.10 | xyu | if your'e a mage ^^ |
| 04:50.11 | aestil | everyone who says that abotu cthun is about the tentacle rape. |
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| 04:50.57 | xyu | yep, then going buck wild on the weakened phase. not to mention every raids "first pull" instant wipe for 102462662601 dmg |
| 04:51.21 | xyu | and the run back pre teleport. ugh |
| 04:51.43 | xyu | that part wasn't fun :P |
| 04:52.33 | Estil | lol tentacle rape |
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| 04:55.09 | Fin | wow, there are *no* blue cloaks with +spell hit on them? |
| 04:55.19 | Fin | that's poopy |
| 04:55.35 | Fin | and only two epic cloaks with +spell hit |
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| 05:06.05 | ScoTTie | there is a blue one |
| 05:06.08 | ScoTTie | but its lvl 61 |
| 05:06.29 | ScoTTie | not bad for a spriest even at 70 |
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| 05:15.52 | aestil | dont' really need much +hit as a SP |
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| 05:16.17 | Xinhuan | you can get more +hit gear though, if you want to spend less talent points on the +hit talent and put it elsewhere |
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| 05:16.57 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: do you never sleep xni? sheesh |
| 05:17.07 | Xinhuan | i answered this question before! |
| 05:17.20 | Xinhuan | i sleep in 3 hour blocks various parts of the day and night |
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| 05:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. happy birthday Xinhuan |
| 05:24.02 | Xinhuan | that was 3 days ago! |
| 05:24.40 | sag_ich_nicht | you were never online when i was |
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| 05:32.30 | aestil | our brazilian druid just killed his ghosts on gorefiend. |
| 05:32.46 | aestil | Xinhuan: i have only 2 pts in the +hit talents. |
| 05:32.47 | durcyn | yay! our american priests can't even do that. |
| 05:33.05 | aestil | i dislike gorefiend. |
| 05:33.52 | durcyn | what are you talking about? it's a great fight, like vael but with less margin for error |
| 05:34.46 | durcyn | plus i get to push 2500 dps on it :o |
| 05:37.00 | Arrowmaster | 2500 dps? |
| 05:37.01 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 05:37.10 | durcyn | lots and lots of shadow bolts |
| 05:37.22 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 05:37.57 | durcyn | hm, last kill was 2294.. shadow bolts, you know, warlock? pew pew pew? |
| 05:38.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 05:38.17 | Arrowmaster | im a lock and have done gorefiend |
| 05:38.34 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley: ping |
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| 05:38.52 | Nargiddley | Xinhuan, whats up ? |
| 05:39.02 | Xinhuan | i notice that the sliders in AceConfig |
| 05:39.09 | Xinhuan | are double executing the set= function |
| 05:39.29 | Xinhuan | once on value change |
| 05:39.31 | Nargiddley | they execute as you drag, then as you let go |
| 05:39.35 | Xinhuan | and once more on mouse up when you release |
| 05:39.45 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 05:39.55 | Xinhuan | so is that really intended to run the thing twice? |
| 05:40.00 | Nargiddley | thats so that there is a refresh of the window, which I don't want to do as you drag |
| 05:40.32 | Xinhuan | if i drag the slider from 10 to 30, it will execute it at 30 when i stop moving the mouse, then it executes it at 30 again when i release the mouse |
| 05:40.40 | Xinhuan | so its "double executing" at the final value |
| 05:41.06 | Nargiddley | is that a problem ? |
| 05:41.28 | Xinhuan | it is a problem if my set function spits a message into the chat frame |
| 05:42.00 | Nargiddley | well afaik it will be called alot of times as its moved anyway |
| 05:42.35 | Xinhuan | hmm i suppose, but i guess it can't be changed to not execute on mouse release? |
| 05:42.43 | Xinhuan | that step is redundant |
| 05:43.29 | Nargiddley | it could, but it'd be a special case in the middle of the generic event handler |
| 05:44.12 | Xinhuan | as for general slider complaints, i still accidentally scroll sliders |
| 05:44.16 | Xinhuan | when i scroll a config screen |
| 05:44.30 | Nargiddley | still have to figure out what to do about that one |
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| 05:49.28 | Wobin | every time I see your name, robotusch, I envisage something half a cough medicine and half a robotic rear end. |
| 05:49.36 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley you also haven't fixed ESC not closing /ace3 yet ;p |
| 05:52.27 | Nargiddley | yes I have |
| 05:53.16 | Nargiddley | 3 days ago infact :P |
| 05:53.39 | chiper | oh my god leveling weapons is boring |
| 05:53.47 | chiper | I think fishing is more interesting than this |
| 05:53.54 | Xinhuan | odd, it wasn't fixed in my copy somehow, until i manually updated Ace3 branch |
| 05:54.12 | Xinhuan | meaning the updated copy in my addon isn't libupgrading i think? |
| 05:55.04 | Xinhuan | i updated GatherMate with externals, didn't fix it, updated Ace3 directly (as a standalone addon) - fixed |
| 05:55.07 | Nargiddley | /ace3 only loads standalone |
| 05:55.16 | Nargiddley | so its that the embedded one doesn't have it |
| 05:55.29 | Xinhuan | aha, so that would explain it |
| 05:55.35 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59799 10Moolah/ (. Moolah.lua Moolah.toc): |
| 05:55.35 | CIA-9 | Moolah: initial commit |
| 05:55.35 | CIA-9 | - very early alpha quality |
| 05:55.35 | CIA-9 | - this add-on will track and eventually chart money across characters |
| 05:56.33 | aestil | i don't like BT. RoS is 'kinda' fun. is shazrah fun? |
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| 05:58.47 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59800 10Moolah/: |
| 05:58.47 | CIA-9 | Moolah: |
| 05:58.47 | CIA-9 | - Add svn:externals |
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| 06:03.51 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59801 10IPopBar/IPopBar.lua: IPopBar: Register optional options table with Ace3 if available, since we don't depend on Ace3 anymore. |
| 06:11.23 | aestil | BT cleared to gurtogg in 1 night is slow/fast/average? |
| 06:11.28 | aestil | 3.5 hour raid. |
| 06:11.58 | Killmore2 | your guild is new in bt ? |
| 06:12.22 | Killmore2 | last night we did full hyjal + naj + supremus |
| 06:12.27 | Killmore2 | and tonight we finish bt |
| 06:13.06 | aestil | new in BT, we are to RoS |
| 06:13.45 | Killmore2 | because your guild is new a will say average |
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| 06:21.51 | aestil | it was actually a 1 hour 10 minute raid. |
| 06:22.30 | aestil | one shot everything but gorefiend. |
| 06:22.39 | aestil | someone had there pet bar hidden. |
| 06:24.07 | aestil | so thats what, nagjentus, supremus, shade, gorefiend and gurtogg in one about 3 hours and 10 minutes. |
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| 06:24.14 | hypetech | anybody here use NRT? |
| 06:27.55 | robotusch | Wobin, my personal vision was that of a robotic paint brush - and to get rid of a fail nick :p |
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| 07:08.12 | Orionshock | isn't aceAddon-3 suposed to have a "HasModule("name")" mixin? |
| 07:08.28 | Xinhuan | it does |
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| 07:09.04 | Orionshock | oh? |
| 07:09.11 | Orionshock | IsModule seems to only return false |
| 07:09.21 | Xinhuan | HasModule |
| 07:09.43 | Orionshock | attempt to call method 'HasModule' (a nil value) |
| 07:10.33 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 07:10.46 | Xinhuan | use :GetModule("name", true) |
| 07:11.21 | Xinhuan | if the 2nd arg is true, it will fail silently if the module isn't found and return nil |
| 07:12.53 | Orionshock | i know... |
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| 07:13.15 | Orionshock | i just find that getting the module to be assinine to do a true false check |
| 07:13.49 | Arrowmaster | why |
| 07:14.07 | Orionshock | don't know... i was told it was bad |
| 07:14.09 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 07:14.34 | Arrowmaster | if there was a HasModule i bet it would do almost the same thing |
| 07:14.38 | Orionshock | actually :D ckknight yelled at me one day for doing that |
| 07:15.13 | Arrowmaster | well if theres a HasModule and your using GetModule just to check if it exists then yeah thats silly |
| 07:15.42 | Orionshock | ... just means i have to call GetModule() x2 .... |
| 07:15.53 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 07:16.08 | ckknight | it's an implementation hiding issue, as well as the possibility that HasModule checks more than GetModule, i.e. it can return true for a LoD module not yet loaded |
| 07:16.45 | Orionshock | if obj:GetModule("name") then obj:GetModule("name"):Method() end |
| 07:17.12 | Arrowmaster | just do module = addon:GetModule("name", true) if module then module:Method() end |
| 07:17.17 | Orionshock | im doing a single point intermodule interaction |
| 07:17.25 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 07:18.11 | Arrowmaster | you could do something like what addons do for optional librarys |
| 07:18.39 | Orionshock | meh, i guess if it really bothers me i can hack it up to " if obj.modules[name] then obj:GetModule(name):Method() end |
| 07:19.22 | Arrowmaster | define a local for it and try to set it to the module and just check if the local isnt nil then do the stuff |
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| 07:22.02 | Orionshock | oy, i guess the biggest thing i worry about is the idea that i have 3 tables that in effect hold very similar information... but i can't merge them because updating dosn't work nicely or .. at all |
| 07:22.26 | Orionshock | ... and their ... on average over 300 keys long -.- |
| 07:22.38 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.45 | Zhinjio | doom lord kazzak down. |
| 07:23.52 | Zhinjio | that was pretty fun |
| 07:31.55 | Gngsk | #wowace first? |
| 07:33.30 | Neebler | http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/2008/01/loading-ready-run-hysterical.html |
| 07:33.32 | Neebler | haw |
| 07:39.35 | Zhinjio | what, kazzak going down? |
| 07:39.45 | Zhinjio | oh, I doubt it. There's lots more advanced guilds than mine in here |
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| 07:43.22 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59802 10IPopBar/IPopBar.lua: IPopBar: Add key bindings to our AceOpts table so the user can set them either in the Ace3 Config dialog and/or in the ESC->Key Bindings screen. |
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| 07:55.35 | Xinhuan | so i ended up only using AceLocale-3.0 in my addon, i approve of being able to choose the exact features i want to use ^^ |
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| 08:17.53 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9, currently 45% off via preorder! | Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. |
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| 08:30.05 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59804 10IPopBar/ (IPopBar.lua IPopBar.toc Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): IPopBar: Update version number to 2.0 |
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| 08:34.28 | Fisker- | wtf |
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| 08:40.48 | Fisker- | this ad on messenger has an open house at "Unix time 12039408000" |
| 08:41.12 | Fisker- | they probably should reevaluate their target group if they're going to post their time in time since epoch |
| 08:41.30 | Neebler | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/149902.html |
| 08:41.32 | Neebler | jaw dropping |
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| 08:44.29 | Arrowmaster | rofl safety glasses with ir leds, awesome idea |
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| 08:46.23 | Fisker- | but it's old :( |
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| 08:56.26 | ckknight_ | need advice, for the DogTag ingame help, should it refer to 'strings' as string or text or something else? |
| 08:57.23 | Arrowmaster | text sounds good |
| 08:57.30 | ckknight_ | actually, nevermind |
| 08:57.37 | Arrowmaster | are you making a large help thing? |
| 08:57.41 | ckknight_ | yea |
| 08:57.50 | ckknight_ | almost done |
| 08:57.54 | Xinhuan | so it'll be like a ingame version of the wiki page? |
| 08:58.03 | Arrowmaster | make sure you mention that text has to be quoted |
| 08:58.09 | ckknight_ | yes, only up to date |
| 08:58.18 | ckknight_ | Arrowmaster: it doesn't need to be quoted. |
| 08:58.24 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 08:58.28 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 08:59.04 | Arrowmaster | didnt know that, dont use anything that uses dogtag |
| 08:59.07 | ckknight | bah |
| 08:59.19 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it doesn't need to be quoted |
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| 09:02.05 | Orionshock | now if only i could get the simplicity of Ag_UFxAce3, and DogTags to work togeather , that'd be hot |
| 09:03.51 | clad|sleep | aguf doesn't use DogTags for good reason *shrug* |
| 09:03.59 | clad|sleep | hack it locally if you want it that badly, or make it optional |
| 09:04.31 | Orionshock | good reason? such as it's not something he wants to code or is it hate for the lib it'self? hehe... |
| 09:04.55 | cladhaire | Because the complexity of DogTags is counter productive for his purposes |
| 09:05.03 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r59805 10Grid/Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridStatus.lua): Grid: (Ace3 branch) remove unitName from Grid Frames and fix roster iterations. |
| 09:05.08 | cladhaire | he removed the customization of teh watchdog style tags, now there are just checkboxes |
| 09:05.15 | cladhaire | he wants to keep it simple, DogTags is anything but simple. |
| 09:05.22 | ckknight | quite true |
| 09:05.37 | ckknight | DogTag's for more advanced things, far from simplistic |
| 09:05.53 | ckknight | that wasn't the aim of it |
| 09:06.57 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: How's the pop in popbar work? |
| 09:07.11 | cladhaire | I'm eyeing it longingly! |
| 09:07.22 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 09:07.38 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=370 |
| 09:07.41 | Xinhuan | screenshots there |
| 09:07.47 | Xinhuan | i don't really think it is what you want |
| 09:07.54 | Xinhuan | since this bar integrates into the default UI |
| 09:08.08 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/IPopBar.html |
| 09:08.15 | cladhaire | i use the default UI |
| 09:08.15 | Xinhuan | for larger screenshots |
| 09:08.20 | cladhaire | way to assume :P |
| 09:08.26 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 09:08.32 | Xinhuan | i did assume you don't use the default UI bars ;p |
| 09:08.40 | cladhaire | " Virus/spyware scanned on upload" |
| 09:08.47 | cladhaire | why do they advertise this, knowing their situation |
| 09:08.59 | Xinhuan | easier to see my other link hehe |
| 09:09.15 | Xinhuan | my Ace3 branch version of it is fully working now |
| 09:09.34 | cladhaire | nice |
| 09:09.38 | cladhaire | what action slots do they use? |
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| 09:10.03 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 09:10.08 | Xinhuan | let me get the numbers |
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| 09:10.25 | cladhaire | just wondering what they correspond to in the default UI |
| 09:10.44 | Xinhuan | row1 uses 97-107, row2 uses 109-119 |
| 09:10.50 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 09:10.54 | Xinhuan | row3 uses 85-95 |
| 09:11.08 | cladhaire | why in such an odd order? |
| 09:11.26 | Xinhuan | because i originally only wrote 2 rows |
| 09:11.31 | Xinhuan | i extended it by a 3rd row later on |
| 09:11.41 | Xinhuan | so row1/2 uses 97-120 really |
| 09:11.50 | Xinhuan | and row3 extended uses the 12 before that 85-95 |
| 09:12.12 | Xinhuan | if you're a warrior or druid, i modify some of those so it doesn't overlap with your forms bars |
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| 09:12.55 | cladhaire | you should drop the AceLocale dependency, its trivial to do without it ;-) |
| 09:13.00 | cladhaire | but i'm not picky |
| 09:13.03 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 09:13.06 | Xinhuan | acelocale is only 4 kb in size |
| 09:13.11 | Xinhuan | so i didn't really mind it too much |
| 09:13.20 | Xinhuan | although yes, i can drop it |
| 09:13.35 | cladhaire | I've always disagreed with localization "libraries" |
| 09:13.37 | cladhaire | but i'm a nazi |
| 09:13.39 | Xinhuan | and just metatable hook up all the tables |
| 09:14.27 | cladhaire | ..\AddOns\IPopBar\IPopBar.lua line 53: |
| 09:14.27 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.27 | Xinhuan | i put all my "non-combat" spells on the popup rows basically - which is all my teleport spells and conjure food/water shit |
| 09:14.47 | Xinhuan | hmm it might fail on a fresh install |
| 09:14.49 | Xinhuan | i'll go check |
| 09:14.53 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:15.14 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ce74c873e72df6bd04183b5b65a9e36d.png |
| 09:15.41 | Xinhuan | [2008/01/31 17:15:08-5382-x1]: IPopBar\IPopBar.lua:391: bad argument #1 to 'setmetatable' (table expected, got nil) |
| 09:15.43 | Xinhuan | ah yep |
| 09:15.52 | Xinhuan | i didn't check for the non-existance of the SV |
| 09:15.57 | Xinhuan | on a fresh install |
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| 09:17.54 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59806 10IPopBar/IPopBar.lua: IPopBar: Fix error that occurs on a fresh install. |
| 09:18.06 | Xinhuan | just an extra line: IPopBar_Config = IPopBar_Config or {} |
| 09:18.11 | Xinhuan | that's the SV variable heh |
| 09:18.26 | cladhaire | ah okay |
| 09:18.26 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:18.28 | Xinhuan | then i setmetatable it to the defaultsp[ |
| 09:18.32 | Xinhuan | defaults[] |
| 09:19.19 | cladhaire | doing /ipopbar throws an error |
| 09:19.39 | Xinhuan | paste ;p |
| 09:19.51 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.10 | Xinhuan | i suggest you update your Ace3 |
| 09:20.15 | Xinhuan | that is a recent addition |
| 09:20.25 | Xinhuan | width="double" "half" "full" |
| 09:20.25 | cladhaire | heh |
| 09:20.28 | Xinhuan | to the ace3 spec |
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| 09:21.11 | cladhaire | May I request a feature? :P |
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| 09:21.52 | Kalroth | It's Xinhuan, you don't have to request, you simply dare him |
| 09:21.54 | cladhaire | I'd like to see a way to customize the action ids for each row. since i use the default bottomleft/bottomright/right bars |
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| 09:22.06 | cladhaire | I'd like _those_ to be my popbars, so I can get rid of them |
| 09:22.40 | Xinhuan | what do you specifically want to see? "set row1 start action ID" ? |
| 09:22.53 | cladhaire | yes, that would be sufficient, as long as it sticks |
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| 09:23.07 | cladhaire | or if you want a more dummy-proof option |
| 09:23.31 | cladhaire | a dropdown for each that selects the action id "Popbar Default, Bottom-Left Blizzard, Bottom-Right Blizzard, Right Blizzard, Right2 Blizzard" |
| 09:23.33 | cladhaire | for example |
| 09:23.42 | cladhaire | but setting the id directly would be sufficient too |
| 09:23.47 | cladhaire | very nice tho! |
| 09:23.56 | cladhaire | I'll definitely use it, even if i have to hack it locally to be perfect :P |
| 09:23.59 | Orionshock | unique action buttons that don't use the 120 built in? :\ |
| 09:24.08 | Xinhuan | ok, i'll see if its possible to add it without too much disruption |
| 09:24.09 | cladhaire | Orionshock: I want it using the 120 built in :P |
| 09:24.10 | Xinhuan | in the meantime |
| 09:24.17 | Xinhuan | you can edit the .lua directly |
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| 09:24.31 | cladhaire | aye |
| 09:24.32 | Xinhuan | line 190 is the line that sets the actionID |
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| 09:24.48 | Xinhuan | the defaults is on line 130, 136 and 142 |
| 09:25.54 | Roath | anyone know an easy way to check how many children there is in a table? (bad way to say it, but i need to check how many tables is inside the table etc. etc... suck at explaining >.<) |
| 09:26.21 | Xinhuan | Roath, if the table isn't numerically indexed from 1 to N |
| 09:26.24 | Xinhuan | then you have to count manually |
| 09:26.43 | Xinhuan | local count = 0; for k in pairs(t) do count = count+1 end |
| 09:26.54 | Roath | i got that, i suck at explaining :P |
| 09:27.03 | Xinhuan | basically, just a loop that counts the number of key-value pairs |
| 09:27.20 | Roath | wrote it completely wrong, will bost code |
| 09:27.22 | Roath | post* |
| 09:28.35 | Roath | http://pastey.net/81532 |
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| 09:29.28 | Roath | i can easerly count how many tables there is in the first one, but how do i check how many "levels" it goes in? so that i only need to perform my function on that amount instead of a fixed number i set |
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| 09:30.11 | cladhaire | and its hacked in locally now :P |
| 09:30.12 | Xinhuan | time to raid (zoning into BT!) |
| 09:30.17 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 09:30.25 | cladhaire | time to shower |
| 09:30.31 | Xinhuan | out |
| 09:30.38 | Xinhuan | of curiosity, what actionIDs did you hack them to |
| 09:31.19 | Kalroth | BT at this hour? wtf |
| 09:31.25 | Xinhuan | its 5.30 pm :) |
| 09:31.33 | Xinhuan | 8.30 in sydney |
| 09:31.39 | Kalroth | Oh right |
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| 09:31.51 | Kalroth | Goddamn aussies and asians, always confusing me! |
| 09:32.23 | cladhaire | I personally did Bottom-Right(row1) Bottom-Left(Row2) and Right(Row3) |
| 09:32.43 | cladhaire | 49-59, 61-71,25-35 |
| 09:32.54 | cladhaire | this way i dont have to add bindings to IPopbar |
| 09:33.03 | cladhaire | since i already have bottomleft bound for all my characters/accounts |
| 09:33.14 | cladhaire | this lets me keep those three bars, just hiding them when I don't need them.. much cleaner :P |
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| 09:33.23 | Xinhuan | aha, whatclass are you |
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| 09:33.33 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 09:33.34 | cladhaire | odd |
| 09:33.35 | Xinhuan | aha, what class are you? |
| 09:33.37 | cladhaire | wrong window to close |
| 09:33.39 | cladhaire | i'm a druid |
| 09:33.57 | cladhaire | it should work for all classes, thoj |
| 09:33.59 | Xinhuan | i usually put all my non-combat related spells/items on those popup bars, i find it really handy |
| 09:34.08 | cladhaire | yeah tahs what I've done |
| 09:34.08 | Xinhuan | like food/drinks |
| 09:34.15 | Orionshock | druid? spec? |
| 09:34.15 | cladhaire | with a few exceptions |
| 09:34.18 | cladhaire | feral |
| 09:34.23 | cladhaire | while leveling |
| 09:34.24 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 09:34.37 | cladhaire | on every character I've ever made, I have Shif-2 and Shift-4 bound to the BottomLeft slots 2 and 4 |
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| 09:34.49 | Orionshock | just went balance at 70, needing advice on stuff |
| 09:34.51 | cladhaire | those are my secondary things, like cheap shot, bash |
| 09:35.05 | cladhaire | shift-5 (slot 5) is feral charge, or silence |
| 09:35.13 | cladhaire | on my priest shift-4 is mind flay |
| 09:35.22 | cladhaire | i play with 1-5 and shift-1-5 primarily |
| 09:35.51 | cladhaire | the rest of the bottom bar (and right bar) are non-combat occasional things, with the bottom-righ also holding things like abolish/cure poison/remove curse and potions |
| 09:35.57 | cladhaire | things i may need in a pinc |
| 09:35.58 | cladhaire | pinch |
| 09:36.04 | cladhaire | now those are visible instead of the menu bar :P |
| 09:36.08 | cladhaire | then showers. |
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| 09:38.34 | Orionshock | humm... should i redo my raid setup to be dual screen? |
| 09:38.56 | Xinhuan | no |
| 09:39.12 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r59807 10MorgDKP/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:39.12 | CIA-9 | MorgDKP: |
| 09:39.12 | CIA-9 | - Changed ListDKP function to display all of selected class in the database NOT the current raid |
| 09:39.12 | CIA-9 | - Click name in ListDKP tablet to invite them to your raid (Name green = online, red = offline) |
| 09:39.12 | CIA-9 | - Changed dkplist whisper to work out of raid group |
| 09:39.13 | CIA-9 | - These will both only display people that are already in the database and have a known class so if you get a whisper from someone never in a raid it will reply blank |
| 09:39.14 | Xinhuan | because having windows/workspace on the other screen is more useful than having wow stretch across 2 screens |
| 09:39.18 | CIA-9 | - Updated DKPInfo.lua file on website (web) |
| 09:39.54 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59808 10aUF_Banzai/ (aUF_Banzai.lua aUF_Banzai.toc embeds.xml libs/): aUF_Banzai: Update to LibBanzai-2.0. |
| 09:40.50 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59809 10BanzaiAlert/ (BanzaiAlert.lua BanzaiAlert.toc embeds.xml libs/): BanzaiAlert: Update to LibBanzai-2.0. |
| 09:41.47 | Orionshock | humm... |
| 09:41.48 | Roath | just want to be sure, i can get data out of a table by writing tablename["first"]["second"] etc. right? |
| 09:41.56 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 09:41.58 | Orionshock | but my UI is cluttered.. a 2nd screen would fix this |
| 09:42.00 | Roath | ok, thanks |
| 09:42.09 | Xinhuan | that is equivalent to tablename.first.second |
| 09:42.31 | Roath | aah right |
| 09:42.38 | Xinhuan | you can only use .xxx if its a "string" without spaces and doesn't start with a number |
| 09:42.38 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59810 10Grid/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Grid: Update to LibBanzai-2.0. |
| 09:42.39 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59811 10Violation/ (Other/Banzai.lua Violation.toc embeds.xml libs/): Violation: Update to LibBanzai-2.0. |
| 09:42.50 | Roath | ok |
| 09:43.26 | Xinhuan | you have to use [blah] if its a variable you want to use |
| 09:43.36 | Roath | any way to count how many levels it goes in? eg. table["bla"] only goes in 1 where table["bla"]["muu"]["rats"] goes in 3 (dont know if calling it levels is correct) |
| 09:43.59 | Xinhuan | you'll have to write your own code to determine this |
| 09:44.05 | Roath | ok, thanks |
| 09:44.22 | Roath | just wanted to check if there was a function that could do it for me already in wow :P |
| 09:44.55 | Roath | any good site i can read about tables and stuff in LUA? the reference guide only has a few lines, not much help there sadly :( |
| 09:44.55 | krka | Roath: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 09:44.59 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.02 | Orionshock | :D |
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| 09:45.15 | Xinhuan | your best guide is the PIL |
| 09:45.23 | Xinhuan | if you've already read that, its everything |
| 09:45.46 | Roath | will read it, thanks |
| 09:45.50 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 09:45.59 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 09:50.25 | Orionshock | so VR, Broodlord remake? |
| 09:50.46 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 09:51.01 | Xinhuan | and Bloodboil is a VR remake ;p |
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| 09:55.54 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r59812 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBarPrototype.lua Bar.lua Options.lua): Bartender4: rework config system to use a API for setting up the table now, and no merging |
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| 10:04.46 | ckknight_ | hrm |
| 10:04.53 | ckknight_ | dev.wowace.com is down? |
| 10:08.56 | Xinhuan | appears dev. is up and svn. is down |
| 10:09.28 | ckknight_ | dev is down to me |
| 10:09.34 | ckknight_ | can't commit |
| 10:09.41 | ckknight_ | and it's a very good commit |
| 10:10.10 | Xinhuan | i can svn update addons from dev. that dont' have externals (to svn.) |
| 10:11.23 | ckknight_ | I can't even ping dev |
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| 10:15.34 | CIA-9 | 03naiad * r59813 10BuffAllReady/: |
| 10:15.34 | CIA-9 | BuffAllReady: initial commit |
| 10:15.34 | CIA-9 | - Reports missing buffs to raid/party chat any time there is a ready check |
| 10:15.34 | CIA-9 | - Preference of paladin buffs configurable per profile |
| 10:17.21 | Tigerdyr | hmm.. that looks neat |
| 10:17.49 | Nargiddley | I can't resolve dev.wowace.com |
| 10:18.06 | Olison | svn.wowace.com doesnt work here |
| 10:18.52 | Nargiddley | ok its just really slow, timing out first few attempts now its resolving |
| 10:19.13 | Tigerdyr | could be one of the nameservers acting up :) |
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| 10:19.52 | Nargiddley | both working through an svn client now for me |
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| 10:24.22 | Roath | if i have a function or something (eg. "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("bla bla bla", 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 53, 15);") in a table, how to i call to it so it actually works? just calling to the table["function"]; doesn't work :S |
| 10:25.15 | Roath | loadstring? |
| 10:25.28 | Nargiddley | what are you trying to do ? |
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| 10:26.08 | ckknight | why won't dev.wowace.com come up? |
| 10:26.29 | Olison | ~seen arjuna |
| 10:26.31 | purl | arjuna <n=disting@CPE00012e15cab1-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 6d 3h 1m 51s ago, saying: 'i am going to watch porn nothing you can do to stop me'. |
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| 10:26.39 | Nargiddley | nameserver seems to be acting up, it was timing out resolving for me for a while |
| 10:29.21 | Xinhuan | dev.wowace.com is working for me - 65.98.12.213 |
| 10:29.33 | Nargiddley | same for me |
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| 10:30.06 | baer_ | hi |
| 10:30.15 | baer_ | is there a way to move the actionbars in bartender3? |
| 10:30.50 | Orionshock | Roath: ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Table: "..table.concat(t, " , ") ) |
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| 10:31.01 | CIA-9 | 03sungam * r59814 10Darkness/Darkness.lua: |
| 10:31.01 | CIA-9 | Darkness: |
| 10:31.01 | CIA-9 | -- Rewritten parts of the addon, for the better. Still quite messy,though |
| 10:33.15 | Roath | Orionshock, its not just chat messages, its all kind of different functions it will be once im done, but no worry, loadstring worked for me :) |
| 10:34.22 | Ozguli` | baer_ tried to unlock them? |
| 10:34.30 | CIA-9 | 03naiad * r59815 10BuffAllReady/ (. BuffAllReady.lua BuffAllReady.toc): |
| 10:34.30 | CIA-9 | BuffAllReady: |
| 10:34.30 | CIA-9 | - Initial commit of BuffAllReady.lua |
| 10:34.30 | CIA-9 | - Initial commit of BuffAllReady.toc |
| 10:37.35 | baer_ | Ozguli`: yes. |
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| 10:37.52 | baer_ | but since i can't move 'em, i wondered if there's some kind of other lock. |
| 10:39.27 | Tigerdyr | is there a way to see when data will be saved next? |
| 10:40.19 | SunTsu | baer_: You normally can move them when you unlock them and they turn green |
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| 10:40.46 | SunTsu | or red |
| 10:41.59 | ckknight_ | anyone know the IP of dev.wowace.com? |
| 10:42.12 | baer_ | SunTsu: ok, i found an option to unlock within the very first option in the waterfall config. |
| 10:42.18 | baer_ | but it doesn't do anything. |
| 10:42.30 | [Ammo] | dev.wowace.com A 65.98.12.213 |
| 10:42.41 | baer_ | ckknight: 65.98.12.213 |
| 10:42.56 | SunTsu | baer_: There are two locks. One unlocks the bars, the other one the buttons on the bar, maybe you are looking at the wrong one |
| 10:43.11 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59816 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: |
| 10:43.11 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-2.0 - add categories to tags and modifiers, for documentation's sake. |
| 10:43.11 | CIA-9 | - add :OpenHelp(), which pops up a documentation frame that explains how DogTag works. |
| 10:43.11 | CIA-9 | - fix some bugs with :ColorizeTag("code"), as well as make the logic saner. |
| 10:43.18 | baer_ | SunTsu: yep, found 'em both & unlocked both of 'em. |
| 10:43.38 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59817 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull - add option to pop up DogTag help near the custom texts. |
| 10:44.10 | SunTsu | baer_: And they don't change color? |
| 10:44.42 | baer_ | SunTsu: no. |
| 10:45.31 | SunTsu | baer_: Very strange. Maybe somebody can check whether moving is broken in current versions, I didn't mobe my bars for some time now |
| 10:45.34 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59818 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: |
| 10:45.34 | CIA-9 | CowTip_Text - add option to pop up DogTag help, remove reference to the wiki page. |
| 10:45.34 | CIA-9 | - color the tags on the line editing sheet. |
| 10:45.48 | ckknight_ | done for now |
| 10:46.19 | baer_ | is there a way to change the default keys of the actions, similar to bongos2 ? |
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| 10:55.43 | Roath | how do i prevet DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(bla bla bla bla bla) being set when its inside a table that should only be called at a certain point, not on login where it prints the text now :S |
| 10:56.59 | Orionshock | hook on event or addmessage? |
| 10:57.45 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59819 10IPopBar/IPopBar.lua: IPopBar: Set the frame level of the cooldown frames to be the same as the buttons. They were below so the cooldown animation wasn't showing up. |
| 10:59.06 | Roath | well, the table is used in a function that is fired when someone uses a slash command, i only want it to print the chat message at that point, but it does it when the game loads, is there any way i can prevent it from performing it on load? (the table is in the top of the lua file) any way to say that it should only run if called by the function or something? |
| 11:00.14 | Orionshock | Roath: what are you trying to do?? |
| 11:00.31 | Xinhuan | he's prob doing the data structure all wrong |
| 11:00.38 | Roath | proberly >.< |
| 11:00.42 | Roath | ill post the code, one sec |
| 11:01.16 | Roath | http://pastey.net/81536 |
| 11:01.40 | Roath | atm once you enter the world, all the chat messages in the table are printed, which they shouldn't :S |
| 11:02.00 | Xinhuan | why do you have functions and data in tghe same table |
| 11:02.25 | Roath | the functions will be replaced later, im just testing stuff out |
| 11:02.58 | Roath | my goal is for my other addons to add their slashcommands themselves and the functions attached to them |
| 11:03.14 | Roath | i know ace does all this already, but i dont learn anything by using something thats already made |
| 11:03.16 | Orionshock | Roath: what your looking for is in line functions i think |
| 11:03.40 | Orionshock | sounds like your reinventing the aceOptions table and slash command handler |
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| 11:03.57 | Roath | well, something like that |
| 11:04.10 | Roath | i want to use ace in the future when i know more about lua |
| 11:04.12 | Orionshock | start small, it's easier |
| 11:04.39 | Roath | naah, want this to work, im hardheaded :P i dont stop untill it works :P |
| 11:05.00 | Orionshock | ok, what's the over all goal of the addon? |
| 11:05.38 | Roath | im making several different addons with some friends making others, we're all helping eachother, so we want a core mod that just fixes the slash commands for us |
| 11:05.59 | Roath | so that /mm will print the slash commands for all the addons we made, regardless of how many of them are installed |
| 11:06.18 | Orionshock | ... |
| 11:06.30 | Roath | ofcourse it wont pring the commands for those not installed |
| 11:06.40 | Roath | print* |
| 11:06.51 | Orionshock | well that could get ugly and costly fast... |
| 11:07.45 | Roath | i know, we will be switching to ace, but want to see if we can get this working first, we're all new to LUA so want to learn as we go :P |
| 11:07.45 | krka | Roath: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 11:07.48 | Orionshock | what's the actual slash command handler looking like? |
| 11:08.00 | Roath | its all in the file atm |
| 11:08.04 | Roath | http://pastey.net/81536 |
| 11:08.32 | Xinhuan | roath |
| 11:08.44 | Xinhuan | when you do something like |
| 11:08.44 | Xinhuan | ["command"] = DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("They dont like you, begone!", 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 53, 15); |
| 11:08.55 | Xinhuan | you're assigning the return value of the :AddMessage() function call |
| 11:09.00 | Xinhuan | to .command |
| 11:09.06 | Xinhuan | understand? |
| 11:09.08 | Orionshock | your using loadstring wrong.. |
| 11:09.15 | Roath | :/ |
| 11:09.45 | Xinhuan | whole structure of the addon is just .. wrong ;p |
| 11:09.50 | Xinhuan | i suggest you take an existing addon and see how it works hehe |
| 11:10.01 | Orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_loadstring |
| 11:10.18 | Roath | they all use ace, cant figure anything out because there are so many files to look thru and i dont understand half of them |
| 11:10.35 | Orionshock | Roath: start with something that has no interface, all event driven |
| 11:10.45 | Xinhuan | find a small example |
| 11:10.47 | Xinhuan | small addon |
| 11:11.03 | Roath | any suggestions? :S |
| 11:11.39 | Xinhuan | depends on whether you want an example based on ace2 or now |
| 11:11.44 | Xinhuan | or not |
| 11:12.05 | Roath | not please :P tried looking at the ones based on ace2, couldn't understand it |
| 11:12.18 | Xinhuan | the ones on ace2 are actually far easier |
| 11:12.31 | Orionshock | lol yea they are.. |
| 11:12.33 | Roath | if you understand ace2, which i dont :S |
| 11:13.03 | Orionshock | Roath: try mine, i wrote it when i was about your lvl of new-ness ... and still haven't progressed very far -.- |
| 11:13.12 | Xinhuan | brb, raiding ;p |
| 11:13.17 | Roath | which is it? |
| 11:13.19 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua |
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| 11:13.32 | Orionshock | it has an Ace2 feel but dosn't use it |
| 11:13.51 | Roath | ok, will read it, thanks |
| 11:13.56 | Hobby | Orion do you have an issue with it clicking the same daily over and over? |
| 11:14.08 | Orionshock | Hobby: how so? |
| 11:14.09 | Wobin | whatever would make you think that? |
| 11:14.11 | Xinhuan | clearly he enjoys doing dailies |
| 11:14.12 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 11:14.24 | Hobby | I tried it but it kept trying to turn in a quest I hadn't completed instead of letting me accept the second daily offered |
| 11:14.26 | Orionshock | there is an intended design with it that causes it to loop in certain cases |
| 11:14.51 | Hobby | Yeah it loops in that case, have to kill it to accept the second or third daily the same NPC offers |
| 11:15.05 | Orionshock | humm... try v5 |
| 11:15.11 | Hobby | E.g. Netherwing ledge dailies |
| 11:15.14 | Orionshock | i don't use v4 anymore -.- |
| 11:15.20 | Hobby | Alrighty will do |
| 11:15.37 | Orionshock | ya, it's suposed to try to pick stuff up first, because that is infact the simplest, |
| 11:15.53 | Roath | which part of it handles slash commands? |
| 11:16.09 | Orionshock | Roath: it dosn't , the idea is to get used to the API interactions |
| 11:16.34 | Hobby | The one you linked says v4, where is 5? |
| 11:16.40 | Roath | damn im new, dont even understand that >.< |
| 11:16.43 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:16.56 | Orionshock | ... |
| 11:17.06 | Hobby | ah k |
| 11:17.15 | Orionshock | Roath: like i said, try something that is pure event based, no slash commands |
| 11:17.38 | Roath | i already have some addons that are driven by events |
| 11:17.48 | Orionshock | ok |
| 11:18.13 | Roath | its making the slash command function explained earlier that i suck at (well, i generally suck at LUA) |
| 11:18.47 | Orionshock | ah, i know your problem, had it myself. |
| 11:19.14 | Orionshock | your trying to make something easily extendable when you don't know how to make it fix'ed first. |
| 11:19.26 | Roath | exactly |
| 11:19.38 | Orionshock | pair()'ing over to many tables to make something dynamic was my problem.... |
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| 11:21.43 | CIA-9 | 03xionglingfeng * r59820 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/nnTrainers.lua: |
| 11:21.43 | CIA-9 | Cartographer_nnTrainers: |
| 11:21.43 | CIA-9 | - add chs |
| 11:21.54 | Roath | so, what du you suggest i do in my case? i'll most likely have to rewrite the entire addon, that doesn't bug me, its finding out how to do it right that bugs me, i can find alot of addons that does it, but not understand exactly how they do it... sure i can copy it and make it work for mine, but that wont teach me anything |
| 11:22.12 | CIA-9 | 03xionglingfeng * r59821 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/addon.lua: |
| 11:22.12 | CIA-9 | Cartographer_ExtractGas: |
| 11:22.12 | CIA-9 | - chs update |
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| 11:22.38 | CIA-9 | 03xionglingfeng * r59822 10Cartographer_HeatMap/HeatMap.lua: |
| 11:22.38 | CIA-9 | Cartographer_HeatMap: |
| 11:22.38 | CIA-9 | - chs update. |
| 11:24.31 | Hobby | Roath are you just trying to get a slash command to fire a function? |
| 11:24.35 | CIA-9 | 03xionglingfeng * r59823 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/ (Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc Locale-zhCN.lua): |
| 11:24.35 | CIA-9 | Cartographer_QuestObjectives: |
| 11:24.35 | CIA-9 | - add chs. |
| 11:25.47 | Fin | don't know who was asking why you'd want a macro for Shadowfiend the other day, but I've just checked mine finally, and the reason I've got one is so I can cast Shadowfiend while having a friendly target, and having no target selected (uses mouseover) |
| 11:25.56 | Fin | just, uh, FYI or something |
| 11:26.08 | Roath | yeah, that is defined in a different addon that adds the info to a table that the addon that handles the slash command reads and then performs the coresponding function (or thats what it should do) |
| 11:26.26 | Roath | brb, bossfight |
| 11:27.21 | thul | hey ho |
| 11:27.22 | thul | lets go |
| 11:27.35 | Hobby | the ace function to do this is RegisterChatCommand in the AceConsole library...it's a layer on top of _G.SlashCmdList |
| 11:28.37 | Hobby | basically setting _G.SlashCmdList["/whatever"] = MyAddon.OnSlashCommandFuncName |
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| 11:31.12 | Hobby | the simplest example is something like... |
| 11:31.24 | Hobby | SlashCmdList["/foo"] = function(msg) |
| 11:31.34 | Hobby | local stringtoparse = msg |
| 11:31.35 | Hobby | end |
| 11:32.33 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.56 | Orionshock | Hobby: uh...not exactly |
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| 11:33.11 | Hobby | I said simplest, not the best :) |
| 11:33.44 | Orionshock | RCC in aceCOnsole is walking a complicated table with alot of arg checks... |
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| 11:34.08 | Hobby | right, but so far he's not using ace |
| 11:34.19 | Hobby | if he moves to it then certainly use aceconsole |
| 11:35.17 | Orionshock | when i started i used both, taking the idea to use my own methods when i understood exactly what i was doing. |
| 11:35.29 | Orionshock | the first versions of SOCD used ace2's event handler... |
| 11:35.40 | Hobby | yup 20 ways to do it, just whatever works best for you to learn |
| 11:35.52 | Orionshock | infact, when i ported it to ace3, the event handler actualy got slower... -.- |
| 11:36.16 | Xinhuan | you should probably categorise your options so you don't get 300 suboptions in the same table |
| 11:36.28 | Hobby | all addons should get a good speed boost in 2.4 |
| 11:36.34 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: ? |
| 11:36.43 | Xinhuan | your guildcraft has 300+? |
| 11:36.46 | Xinhuan | or so i read |
| 11:36.48 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 11:36.51 | Hobby | in a raid environment a fair amount of processing is spent on that combat log currently for all kinds of things |
| 11:37.02 | Orionshock | i don't know how to make that perticular window easier on anything... |
| 11:37.23 | Xinhuan | categorise the same way the default UI does it? |
| 11:37.34 | Orionshock | by header? |
| 11:37.45 | Orionshock | might work... |
| 11:38.07 | Orionshock | things never change headers.. so no worry bout "upgrading" information.. |
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| 11:38.52 | Orionshock | ouch.. i'd have to completely Fubar the scanner... |
| 11:38.55 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 11:39.46 | Orionshock | or i could leave it alone and tell people to stop touching it after they have set their options... |
| 11:43.20 | Xinhuan | well 300 options in one table, definitely isn't "ordinary" |
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| 11:47.18 | Orionshock | i thought about braking it up by 100's, but don't know how to pairs() over a table from a given spot |
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| 11:53.47 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: i've been meaning to ask you, what's your opinion on addons like this one? the guild craft / guild ads style addons. |
| 11:54.01 | Xinhuan | opinion on what aspect? |
| 11:54.16 | Orionshock | general usefulness / need |
| 11:54.37 | Xinhuan | some guilds will find it useful |
| 11:54.39 | Xinhuan | some won't |
| 11:54.42 | Xinhuan | depends on how big the guild is |
| 11:54.59 | Xinhuan | for me, my guild can pretty much list everyone's else's professions in the guild for eg |
| 11:55.07 | Xinhuan | so it isn't necessary |
| 11:55.32 | Xinhuan | since we meet up to raid every night, ppl just ask each other then, if they can make a certain thing |
| 11:56.06 | Xinhuan | it has its uses |
| 11:56.35 | Roath | Orionshock: your examply might not be good in your opinion, but mine works now after i recoded mine :) thanks alot |
| 11:56.51 | Xinhuan | 2 pulls away from boss |
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| 12:04.25 | Orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11000.msg175720#msg175720 |
| 12:04.40 | Orionshock | just think of the implication's there... "Remote CallbackHandler" |
| 12:05.47 | dre^ | yeah absolutely |
| 12:06.01 | dre^ | surprised it's taken this long to be honest ;) |
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| 12:06.33 | dre^ | distributed event processing ftw |
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| 12:15.22 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/81540 |
| 12:15.35 | Orionshock | no where near functional, but you get the drift how bad that could get.... |
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| 12:17.16 | Orionshock | ... gnight all |
| 12:21.31 | Xinhuan | just wait till someone writes a Bittorrent client in wow lua |
| 12:21.55 | Xinhuan | to share a 20 gb lootlink data ;p |
| 12:24.12 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: That'll be a lot of /reload uis ;) |
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| 12:43.19 | kagaro | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 12:43.26 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 13m 53s ago, saying: 'same for me'. |
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| 12:50.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:21] <Xinhuan> to share a 20 gb lootlink data ;p <--LOL. |
| 12:52.57 | sag_ich_nicht | http://slashdot.org/articles/08/01/31/037204.shtml <--that'l teach 'em, expect internet connections to the east to speed up in the next few years by more than what would normally be expected as they add redundant lines |
| 12:53.05 | sag_ich_nicht | http://slashdot.org/articles/08/01/31/037204.shtml <--that'l teach 'em, expect internet connections to the east to speed up in the next few years by more than what would normally be expected as they add redundant lines |
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| 12:53.10 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 12:53.17 | sag_ich_nicht | sry, key got stuck |
| 12:53.55 | sag_ich_nicht | *that'll |
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| 13:13.29 | [SW]Dodge | anyone here who uses grid also for normal party frame? |
| 13:14.13 | CrazyBenny| | yep |
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| 13:14.50 | [SW]Dodge | could you show me a screenshot :) |
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| 13:19.08 | Grum | [SW]Dodge: i do |
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| 13:19.23 | Grum | and it just looks like normal |
| 13:19.37 | [SW]Dodge | mhm |
| 13:19.48 | Grum | just with a 5x1 column :) |
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| 13:20.04 | CrazyBenny| | [SW]Dodge: http://i27.tinypic.com/ayrdhx.jpg |
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| 13:23.45 | [SW]Dodge | hm thanks :) is there any way to broaden the squares for each unit?? |
| 13:25.22 | Bruners | how do you break the shield on Immol'thar in DM west? |
| 13:25.32 | FinalX | by clearing all the pylons with the arcane mobs in the instance |
| 13:26.05 | FinalX | there's 6 or so, i believe |
| 13:26.10 | CrazyBenny| | [SW]Dodge: you can change frame width/height in grid->frame->advanced options |
| 13:26.31 | Grum | the config of grid sucks ass |
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| 13:26.48 | [SW]Dodge | CrazyBenny|: thanks :) |
| 13:27.51 | CrazyBenny| | indeed Grum, but if you take the time the results are good:) |
| 13:28.02 | Grum | yeah i love it |
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| 13:28.24 | Grum | in combination with clique its sickly powerful |
| 13:28.38 | CrazyBenny| | aye |
| 13:29.02 | [SW]Dodge | what is clique? |
| 13:29.10 | Bruners | click cast |
| 13:29.29 | clad|office | #clique |
| 13:29.31 | clad|office | damnit |
| 13:29.35 | clad|office | ~cliqut |
| 13:29.37 | clad|office | FUCK |
| 13:29.42 | clad|office | damn british keyboards |
| 13:29.44 | clad|office | ~clique |
| 13:29.45 | purl | methinks clique is a click-casting addon by Cladhaire, which you can download from WoWInterface: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5108-Clique.html |
| 13:30.05 | Grum | best clickcasting addon ! =D |
| 13:30.44 | [SW]Dodge | sounds interesting :DD |
| 13:33.52 | Xinhuan | if you haven't heard of clique before, where have you been the past 12 months?? |
| 13:34.02 | clad|office | s/12 months/2 years/ |
| 13:34.10 | Josh_Borke | ~fail clad|office |
| 13:34.10 | purl | clad|office: Fail. |
| 13:34.25 | clad|office | tho to be fair, I received a nice surge in popularity after 2.0 and decursive and healbot were killed |
| 13:34.31 | clad|office | i'd say rest in peace, but i hated both :P |
| 13:34.52 | kenlyric | war were declared. |
| 13:36.39 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: do i need something like clique as Tank? |
| 13:36.49 | clad|office | nope, not unless you want it for things :P |
| 13:36.53 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 13:37.09 | clad|office | it can be useful for anyone, but as a tank there's not much you need to manage that you're not already doing some other way :P |
| 13:37.31 | [SW]Dodge | so.. :) |
| 13:37.46 | clad|office | but grid/clique is used by quite a few healers |
| 13:37.49 | clad|office | more than I care to admit :P |
| 13:38.02 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 13:38.20 | Josh_Borke | clad|office: wtf can't i change my scale in the new praid? >_< |
| 13:38.37 | Josh_Borke | as in why |
| 13:38.39 | kenlyric | tank may care to see who has aggro to pick up a stray mob, but grid might be overkill for that. |
| 13:38.48 | kenlyric | I need to switch to clique. |
| 13:39.05 | kenlyric | laziness competes with my desire to do right. |
| 13:39.17 | clad|office | lol |
| 13:39.28 | SunTsu | kenlyric: i like grid as a tank, becaus it shows aggro and you get an overview of the raid fast |
| 13:39.41 | clad|office | Josh_Borke: uhh because the parenting was changed a bit. |
| 13:39.42 | Josh_Borke | i like praid because it shows aggro and you get an overview of the raid fast |
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| 13:39.57 | Josh_Borke | clad|office: so why put a scale option if it isn't going to work? >_< |
| 13:40.07 | clad|office | because it was always there |
| 13:40.10 | clad|office | and i broke something |
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| 13:40.34 | clad|office | tho i wish it had broken your FACE |
| 13:40.35 | warlock | hi all :0 |
| 13:40.37 | Josh_Borke | at least you'll admit it |
| 13:40.42 | Josh_Borke | oh it did |
| 13:40.45 | Josh_Borke | i had to use grid because of it |
| 13:40.52 | clad|office | uhh |
| 13:40.55 | clad|office | lrn2fuckingslashcommand |
| 13:40.56 | warlock | have you seen that 2.4 interface option announcement ? .9 |
| 13:40.59 | Josh_Borke | i've been scarred forever |
| 13:41.10 | kenlyric | I also seem to dimly recall that clique couldn't do something I wanted, but since I can't remember what, maybe I don't need that function anymore. |
| 13:41.12 | Josh_Borke | clad|office: what fucknig slash command? i'll i know about is /praid =P |
| 13:41.22 | Josh_Borke | kenlyric: it can't butter your toast |
| 13:41.29 | Josh_Borke | yet... |
| 13:41.33 | clad|office | do /run PRHeader1:SetScale(0.7); ChatFrame1:AddMessage("I'm lame as shit") |
| 13:41.41 | Josh_Borke | clad|office: ok |
| 13:41.52 | Josh_Borke | clad|office: how was i supposed to know the name of the gd frame? FIX YOUR SHIT! |
| 13:41.54 | kenlyric | it was something to do with binding the mice buttons properly, because they were bound to things like Ctrl-V and Ctrl-C |
| 13:42.14 | Grum | cladhaire: ZOMG add moar opi0nzxz |
| 13:42.32 | clad|office | like what? |
| 13:42.43 | Josh_Borke | ooo, ooo, i know! |
| 13:42.47 | Josh_Borke | integrate it with the new 2.4 shit! |
| 13:42.56 | Josh_Borke | do it NOW |
| 13:43.08 | clad|office | how about no |
| 13:43.12 | clad|office | you crazy dutch bastard |
| 13:43.13 | Josh_Borke | :'( |
| 13:43.18 | Josh_Borke | but i'm american... |
| 13:43.25 | clad|office | lies |
| 13:43.32 | warlock | native ?;) |
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| 13:44.21 | kenlyric | does praid let you set char-specific stuff while keeping a default profile? |
| 13:44.32 | clad|office | well what do you mean? |
| 13:44.39 | clad|office | Josh_Borke: commited, and I hate you. |
| 13:44.40 | kenlyric | like, watch for int on my mage but watch for fort on my priest. |
| 13:44.55 | kenlyric | but without having to use char-specific profiles. |
| 13:45.00 | clad|office | no |
| 13:45.07 | kenlyric | so things like layout and the 95% of the other settings can be the same. |
| 13:45.11 | clad|office | perfectraid was set up before database namespaces |
| 13:45.26 | kenlyric | that's cool, grid doesn't do it either. |
| 13:45.32 | clad|office | and the other nifty stuff I added later on to dongleDB |
| 13:46.49 | clad|office | kenlyric: but, that could be added.. I'd just have to work out how best to handle it :P |
| 13:48.47 | kenlyric | bartender does it... things like layout and bar info are shared, but things like stance bar swap are char-specific. |
| 13:49.12 | clad|office | yeah it makes sense |
| 13:49.28 | clad|office | but thats a special case.. most people want praid stuff per-char, so I've left it as such |
| 13:50.35 | ramoz | clad|office: was it praid that had the Mana tag when people had less then X% mana? |
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| 13:51.36 | clad|office | ramoz: yes, but that got removed in 2.0 |
| 13:51.40 | clad|office | i should re-add it in |
| 13:51.54 | ramoz | yeah, you should |
| 13:51.57 | kenlyric | yeah, deciding which things to make char-specific is probably the biggest block against doing it.I know which things I want to be char specific (missing buffs and removable debuffs) but that might not match everybody. |
| 13:52.12 | clad|office | kenlyric: yep, thats the devil :P |
| 13:52.19 | clad|office | but thats why i make my mods simple |
| 13:52.23 | clad|office | re-configuring them isn't hard, at all |
| 13:52.31 | clad|office | and you can always copy the other characters profile |
| 13:52.43 | clad|office | so you don't have to set it up again, then customize to your heart's desire |
| 13:56.08 | warlock | i'd like to see a screen from that new interface option dialog .9 |
| 13:57.08 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("scale 0.56", "^scale ([0-9.])$") |
| 13:57.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: nil, |
| 13:57.14 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("scale 0.56", "^scale ([0-9.]+)$") |
| 13:57.14 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0.56, |
| 13:57.35 | Xinhuan | will that capture most simple numbers hehe |
| 13:57.54 | warlock | europeans might write 0,56 .) |
| 13:58.08 | Xinhuan | too bad, lua doesn't recognize such numbers |
| 13:58.14 | vircuser | Mornin' all - anyone having errors from the version of libBanzai embedded into grid? I've also tried copying the standalone version over the top, but no dice - same files, same errors |
| 13:58.33 | Lukian | warlock, so how do you coordinates with /tloc ? :) |
| 13:59.05 | Xinhuan | tloc is like a cosmos command |
| 13:59.19 | Lukian | cartographer uses it :o |
| 13:59.22 | warlock | i don't know .. but i remember i had to fix an addon that expected a "." where there was a "," |
| 13:59.26 | clad|office | doesn't cart implement it? |
| 13:59.38 | Xinhuan | what you want is /dump GetPlayerMapPosition("player") |
| 13:59.38 | Xinhuan | ;p |
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| 13:59.51 | Xinhuan | gauranteed to work unless you're not viewing a map of your current zone |
| 14:00.03 | kenlyric | vircuser: did it upgrade libBanzai-2.0? |
| 14:00.33 | kenlyric | oh, I can read for myself that it did. |
| 14:01.31 | Josh_Borke | clad|office: i hate you too <3 |
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| 14:01.33 | kenlyric | looks like the lib was checked in last night and the update to grid was checked in this morning. |
| 14:03.43 | DJNW | aye - the lib was exactly the same version |
| 14:03.46 | kenlyric | I don't see any grid errors |
| 14:03.59 | kenlyric | just my normal waypoints error I get *every* time I login. |
| 14:04.08 | DJNW | "[2008/01/31 13:55:56-1784-x1]: Grid\libs\LibBanzai-2.0\lib.xml:1: unexpected symbol near '<'" |
| 14:04.22 | [Ammo] | mistake in the grid.toc |
| 14:04.34 | [Ammo] | it needs to use <include> instead of <script> for .xml files |
| 14:04.35 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 14:05.16 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 14:05.31 | kenlyric | so, what seems to happen is that when tourguide loads and has a waypoint, it sets the waypoint as it loads. But cartographer_waypoints seems to hate this. |
| 14:05.36 | Xinhuan | < is an invalid symbol for lua first |
| 14:05.40 | Xinhuan | lua files |
| 14:06.16 | clad|office | kenlyric: thats odd, tomtom handles those waypoints just fine.. maybe cart isn't fully set up at that point? |
| 14:06.46 | kenlyric | it's possible. it basically gives a runaway error trying to display the waypoint. If i make another waypoint, then delete it, the original shows up just fine. |
| 14:06.59 | clad|office | heh, odd. |
| 14:07.00 | kenlyric | 2008/01/31 09:03:08-235-x21]: Cartographer_Waypoints-2.0\Waypoints.lua:960: attempt to index global 'waypointFrame' (a nil value) |
| 14:07.13 | Xinhuan | i'll check out that error |
| 14:07.18 | kenlyric | 2008/01/31 09:03:02-235-x1]: Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:876: attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value) |
| 14:07.27 | kenlyric | it gives those two, in reverse order |
| 14:07.41 | kenlyric | endlessly until the bugsack throttle kicks in. |
| 14:08.02 | kenlyric | well, maybe the one that is x21 is the endless one :) |
| 14:08.06 | Xinhuan | ok, you're trying to add a waypoint, before :OnEnable() was called |
| 14:08.30 | clad|office | TourGuide is, and it shouldn't really need to wait that long |
| 14:08.51 | kenlyric | it used to do it for any waypoint you had when you logged of. |
| 14:08.54 | Xinhuan | does Tourguide have _waypoints or carto as a optdep? |
| 14:08.55 | kenlyric | *off |
| 14:09.02 | Xinhuan | can you check that? |
| 14:09.09 | kenlyric | so I started deleting them before I logged off. |
| 14:09.53 | kenlyric | actually, tourguide says it may work with carto, but there are no promises :) |
| 14:09.57 | Xinhuan | if _waypoints is embedded in carto, then tourguide should optdep Carto |
| 14:10.11 | Xinhuan | if _waypoints is disembedded as a standalone module, then tourguide should optdep _waypoints |
| 14:10.15 | Xinhuan | i.e both has to be optdep |
| 14:10.19 | clad|office | well hold on |
| 14:10.23 | clad|office | if the error is happening |
| 14:10.25 | clad|office | cart is loaded |
| 14:10.31 | clad|office | and likely, so is the waypoints module |
| 14:10.34 | kenlyric | i do run disembedded |
| 14:10.47 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 14:10.51 | clad|office | tourguide probably just adds the waypoints during its ADDON_LOADED |
| 14:10.55 | clad|office | which is before OnEnable |
| 14:10.56 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:876: attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value) |
| 14:11.11 | Xinhuan | that's definitely before :OnEnable() is called |
| 14:11.22 | Xinhuan | which is PLAYER_LOGIN event |
| 14:11.33 | clad|office | yes, why on earth is the DB waiting until OnEnable to be initialized? |
| 14:11.36 | clad|office | that's a odd restriction |
| 14:11.50 | clad|office | after an addon's ADDON_LOADED has fired, it should "just work" imo |
| 14:11.54 | kenlyric | p.s.: the vast quantity of new waypoints in tourguide is hot. |
| 14:11.55 | Xinhuan | let me look |
| 14:12.06 | clad|office | ah well, off to grab a sangwich |
| 14:12.15 | Xinhuan | function Cartographer_Waypoints:OnInitialize() |
| 14:12.15 | Xinhuan | self.db = Cartographer:AcquireDBNamespace("Waypoints") |
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| 14:12.22 | kenlyric | bread, blood, bread. |
| 14:12.24 | Xinhuan | self.db is set on On:Init |
| 14:12.30 | Xinhuan | which is during ADDON_LOADED |
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| 14:12.50 | Xinhuan | so that didn't make sense |
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| 14:13.55 | Xinhuan | self.db is definitely not a nil value if :OnInitialize() has already run |
| 14:16.10 | kenlyric | so, how did the centaur and tauren become blood enemies if there is no path between mulgore and desolace? |
| 14:17.20 | kenlyric | I guess the tauren came to mulgore afterwards |
| 14:17.31 | kagaro | Any way to determine a textures native size? |
| 14:19.23 | [Ammo] | photoshop |
| 14:19.36 | [Ammo] | or your tool of choice |
| 14:19.45 | kagaro | I meant from in game |
| 14:20.33 | [Ammo] | don't think so |
| 14:21.29 | kenlyric | anyone know if parrot will fire the Overpower notice if you're not in battle stance? |
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| 14:22.01 | Xinhuan | try it ;p |
| 14:23.10 | kenlyric | mobs are being shitty and not triggering. |
| 14:23.58 | Fin | does anyone know how I can add a buff to Pitbull's list of buffs that's shown when "only show buffs you can cast" is checked? |
| 14:24.06 | Fin | Fear Ward isn't showing up on my priest |
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| 14:27.52 | clad|office | Fin: Does the UnitBuff filter show it or not? |
| 14:27.56 | clad|office | I heard there were some issues with it |
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| 14:29.56 | kenlyric | heh |
| 14:30.02 | kenlyric | I should probably train my priest with fear ward. |
| 14:30.39 | Grum | lol |
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| 14:30.49 | Xinhuan | so you know the end caps |
| 14:30.53 | Xinhuan | on the default UI's menu bars? |
| 14:30.57 | Xinhuan | what animal is it |
| 14:31.34 | kenlyric | I should take this time to pick up a pvp spec, since I haven't been in a group in about four months. |
| 14:32.46 | clad|office | Xinhuan: gryphon i thought |
| 14:33.26 | Xinhuan | cos i'm adding an option to get rid of those gryphons, and also scale the whole bar in ipopbar |
| 14:33.44 | clad|office | any chance of getting 12 buttons instead of 11? :P |
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| 14:34.09 | Xinhuan | there's no space for it tbh |
| 14:34.29 | Xinhuan | the "12th" button space is used up by the paging up/down buttons and the latency meter |
| 14:34.56 | clad|office | aye |
| 14:35.00 | clad|office | just didn't know if you'd thought about it |
| 14:35.21 | Xinhuan | i did, but the latency meter is something most people don't want to hide |
| 14:35.29 | clad|office | aye |
| 14:37.12 | kenlyric | hmmm... shadow build with holy raiding gear? |
| 14:37.15 | kenlyric | could work? |
| 14:38.31 | clad|office | if you want to run out of mana every 2 seconds :P |
| 14:38.37 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 14:38.40 | clad|office | but yes, it could be workable |
| 14:38.58 | clad|office | you need at least 1k +shadow to have reasonably long runs with shadow |
| 14:38.59 | Xinhuan | you wouldn't be very effective on the meters hehe |
| 14:39.11 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 14:39.12 | Fin | clad|office: I don't understand the question, sorry - how can I tell if the UnitBuff filter shows it? (I'm not sure what that is) |
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| 14:39.39 | kagaro | kenlyric: with holy raiding gear youll be oom fast spamming shadow out |
| 14:39.42 | Xinhuan | cia lagging again |
| 14:39.48 | clad|office | Fin: Remove all your buffs, then cast fear ward on yourself. |
| 14:39.53 | Xinhuan | or maybe its wowace svn |
| 14:39.55 | clad|office | Fin: Then run /dump UnitBuff("player", 1) |
| 14:40.03 | clad|office | Fin: You should see the info for Fear Ward |
| 14:40.14 | clad|office | Fin: Then run /dump UnitBuff("player", 1, 1) |
| 14:40.16 | clad|office | and see what you get |
| 14:40.24 | Fin | I do |
| 14:40.28 | Fin | er |
| 14:40.58 | kagaro | kenlyric: unless you stack a stupid amount of spi, and add some pauses in .. thoguht your dps will just plain suck |
| 14:40.58 | Fin | -I do+done, I get the spell name, blank, the icon path, 1, 180, 166,488 |
| 14:41.12 | Fin | (blank = empty string) |
| 14:41.13 | clad|office | Fin: what happens when you run the second command, with the extra 1? |
| 14:41.20 | kenlyric | i'm a holy priest. |
| 14:41.26 | kenlyric | I already have stupid amounts of spirit :) |
| 14:41.28 | Fin | clad|office: ditto |
| 14:41.35 | Grum | kenlyric: how much is stupid? ;D |
| 14:41.47 | clad|office | Fin: then the filter is showing it properly, so not sure why pitbull isn't. |
| 14:41.51 | Xinhuan | the UnitBuff()'s 3rd arg currentlyis bugged |
| 14:41.55 | kagaro | 600+ |
| 14:41.56 | Xinhuan | it only shows YOUR casted buffs |
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| 14:42.11 | Xinhuan | meaning if you casted fear ward on yourself, itshows up on ("player", 1, 1) |
| 14:42.12 | Fin | I don't see it even if I cast it |
| 14:42.19 | Xinhuan | but if someone else casted it on you, it doesn't show up |
| 14:42.30 | clad|office | Xinhuan: Yes.. I'm aware of that bug |
| 14:42.30 | kenlyric | guess my stupid amount went down, I wonder how. |
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| 14:42.31 | Grum | makes sense |
| 14:42.35 | kenlyric | I still have spirit buff on |
| 14:42.36 | clad|office | Pitbull isn't showing it, regardless. |
| 14:42.43 | kenlyric | oh right, I traded up some gear and lost spirit |
| 14:42.45 | Grum | kenlyric: from where does it become useful? :) |
| 14:42.46 | kenlyric | ~fail |
| 14:42.51 | purl | ACTION gives kenlyric the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 14:42.52 | Xinhuan | its meant to filter by what your class can cast though, rather than spells you casted |
| 14:42.52 | kagaro | I had to spec holy this week so sitting at 620 spi 13.5k mana @ 2k +heal |
| 14:42.57 | Xinhuan | so its pretty bad atm |
| 14:43.01 | clad|office | Xinhuan: yes, that's a different bug |
| 14:43.05 | Xinhuan | pitbull uses manual filtering i thought? |
| 14:43.09 | Fin | I thought perhaps there might be a list somewhere that I could manually add Fear Ward to, I remember some raid frames had it at one point... that was a long time ago, it's probably not relevant anymore |
| 14:43.09 | Grum | kagaro: that is mostly disc right? |
| 14:43.12 | kenlyric | I have 466 with spirit buff. |
| 14:43.14 | kagaro | yeah |
| 14:43.23 | clad|office | Xinhuan: That's unfortunate.. but I was having him test the API to make sure it was showing up there |
| 14:43.28 | kagaro | with imp ds |
| 14:43.30 | kenlyric | but i'm in kara gear and tailor set. |
| 14:43.35 | clad|office | since i assumed pitbull would use the API that exists *shrug* |
| 14:43.41 | Fin | bums |
| 14:43.42 | Grum | hehe ofc not! |
| 14:43.47 | kenlyric | oh shit |
| 14:43.51 | kenlyric | I have my riding crop on. |
| 14:43.52 | Xinhuan | cos i know pitbull was the only addon that didn't break from the 2.3.0 unitbuff() bug |
| 14:43.58 | Xinhuan | so it must have been using manual filtering |
| 14:44.11 | Fin | that's actually what I thought might be the problem... so, I guess I'll check the code to see where the list is made |
| 14:44.28 | kagaro | at that spi, the regen is just sick .. 520 mana/5 not casting 250 mana/5 while casting |
| 14:44.46 | Grum | buffed kagaro ? |
| 14:44.49 | kagaro | yeah |
| 14:45.03 | kagaro | full raid buffs |
| 14:45.03 | Grum | while not casting is high, while casting is low |
| 14:45.30 | Xinhuan | so i don't know if this is a hack |
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| 14:45.34 | Xinhuan | but if i put something like |
| 14:45.35 | Xinhuan | <Binding name="CLICK IPopBarButton1:LeftButton">return</Binding> |
| 14:45.36 | kenlyric | I had 700 spirit once in kara when we had a druid *and* pallies |
| 14:45.39 | Xinhuan | in my bindings.xml |
| 14:45.40 | kagaro | my healing is offset, so havent built up as much mp/5 as i would like |
| 14:45.47 | Xinhuan | it shows up properly in the Key Bindings default ui menu ;p |
| 14:45.54 | kagaro | s/offset/offspec/ |
| 14:45.55 | Stanzilla | I have 89 mp5 infight and unbuffed ^^ |
| 14:46.02 | kenlyric | spirit whore 4 life |
| 14:46.03 | Xinhuan | do you think that's a hack cladhaire? hehe |
| 14:46.05 | Fin | I was just in a group with a pally mp5 buff, and was at 303 mp5 while casting (no gift of the wild or kings or anything else) :) |
| 14:46.06 | Grum | i'm not sure how much +mp5 i want |
| 14:46.19 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r59828 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 14:46.19 | CIA-9 | BigWigs: |
| 14:46.19 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:46.21 | clad|office | Xinhuan: lol its certainly interesting :P |
| 14:46.24 | Grum | but full raidbuffed i think i touch ~360 while casting |
| 14:46.40 | kagaro | I outhealed a pally last night with .. which was strange |
| 14:46.40 | Xinhuan | so my code used this hack to allow setting keybindings in the default ui menu directly |
| 14:46.49 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r59829 10/branches/mHud/ (6 files in 6 dirs): mHud: Continued on some db changes, should be less errors |
| 14:47.02 | Grum | with ~10.4khp, 12.4k mana and ~2080 healing (no totems only paladin+spi) |
| 14:47.23 | kagaro | grum: I took the hit on hp for mana @ 8k health |
| 14:47.44 | kenlyric | is mana some kind of stat? |
| 14:47.54 | kenlyric | oh, I failed at joke |
| 14:47.56 | Grum | depends on the fight |
| 14:48.22 | kenlyric | I still cry over the 8 wasted int I have for meta gem. |
| 14:49.00 | Grum | ;) |
| 14:49.00 | Fin | thanks for your help btw, clad|office and Xinhuan |
| 14:49.03 | Grum | metagems>* |
| 14:49.19 | Grum | half-casting time is imbah ;D |
| 14:49.46 | kenlyric | lol |
| 14:51.23 | kenlyric | I really need to get the healing ring enchant. |
| 14:51.27 | kenlyric | 16 more healing! |
| 14:51.57 | Xinhuan | isn't it 24? |
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| 14:52.13 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r59831 10Skinner/ (Localisations.lua Skinner.lua options.lua): |
| 14:52.13 | CIA-9 | Skinner: BugFix for Backdrop Texture changes, oops :-( |
| 14:52.13 | CIA-9 | - Reinstated Backdrop & Backdrop Border Texture File support |
| 14:52.25 | kenlyric | I thought it was 20 |
| 14:52.36 | kenlyric | I already have 12 on each ring |
| 14:52.43 | Xinhuan | ok its +20 healing 7 dmg |
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| 14:57.01 | Grum | best regen-tracking addon? using FuBar_RegenFu - anything else? |
| 14:57.40 | FtH|Daemona | so, any news on 2.4 ptr yet? beside the interface overhaul that will delay it even further? :( |
| 14:57.54 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 14:58.03 | sag_ich_nicht | they told us that your mom will be a raidboss in it |
| 14:58.35 | kenlyric | nothing quite like building a faction reputation one quest per day. |
| 14:58.44 | Grum | kenlyric: which one? ;D |
| 14:58.51 | kenlyric | ogri'la, the bombing run. |
| 14:59.04 | FtH|Daemona | sag_ich_nicht hey thats better than your mom shouting she is cheaper in front of a kik market ;) |
| 14:59.09 | kenlyric | same way I did skyguard over in terrokar |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r59832 10GridStatusThreat/GridStatusThreat.lua: |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-9 | GridStatusThreat: |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-9 | - works now with Pets |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-9 | - use PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED/PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED events to activate/deactivate threat calculation |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-9 | - fixed threat display if Out-Of-Combat |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-9 | - no Roster iterate if Out-Of-Combat |
| 15:00.03 | FtH|Daemona | interesting... threat bars on grid? what would be the use of that? |
| 15:00.10 | kenlyric | seeing threat? |
| 15:00.24 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, but in multi-mob situation thats quite useless isnt it? |
| 15:00.29 | Grum | not really? |
| 15:00.34 | Grum | depends on the mobs |
| 15:00.34 | Antiarc | I think what FtH|Daemona is saying is that threat is really most useful as a relative display, not an absolute one |
| 15:00.47 | kenlyric | the same reason that Omen is useful |
| 15:00.54 | Grum | prolly useful for healers, to see who is likely to get aggro |
| 15:01.23 | kenlyric | I haven't used the module yet, but i would think it would show when they had crossed a threshhold. |
| 15:01.25 | FtH|Daemona | my point was, what is the use of seeing threat bars beside seeing hey he got x amount of aggro on _some_ mob |
| 15:01.42 | FtH|Daemona | and in single target situation its sufficient to glance over at your omen window. |
| 15:01.47 | kenlyric | um |
| 15:01.56 | Grum | FtH|Daemona: if it marks the people with more than ~120% threat on any mob that is useful |
| 15:01.57 | kenlyric | or, don't have an omen window and use grid threat instead. |
| 15:02.22 | FtH|Daemona | grum at that point |
| 15:02.24 | kenlyric | like if you're a healer, and primary target threat doesn't interest you very much. |
| 15:02.26 | FtH|Daemona | i would already be dead |
| 15:02.29 | FtH|Daemona | as melee |
| 15:02.35 | Grum | why? |
| 15:02.42 | FtH|Daemona | cause i draw aggro at 110% |
| 15:02.45 | Grum | you might survive the second hit |
| 15:02.53 | Grum | .... |
| 15:03.02 | Grum | sigh .. then put the percentage at max-5% |
| 15:04.13 | FtH|Daemona | you'd have to at least scan for melee range and then check for either near 110% or for ranged and near 130% |
| 15:04.21 | kenlyric | anyway, it's the same reason you have threat in aloft, pitbull, possibly other places. |
| 15:04.32 | FtH|Daemona | i don't ? ;) |
| 15:04.33 | kenlyric | cause you might not need omen |
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| 15:05.14 | Grum | lets first *see* whatever that addon does before whining about it |
| 15:05.17 | Grum | no-one actually knows |
| 15:05.25 | SunTsu | Because you might have one of it in sight and won't have to turn your head ;) |
| 15:05.33 | kenlyric | well, I know what the pitbul threat frame does. |
| 15:05.39 | kenlyric | and that one seems perfectly sensible. |
| 15:05.44 | FtH|Daemona | btw Antiarc, dunno if i asked that before but is there a way to grab a pullout bar from omen for me vs top threat on current target? |
| 15:06.27 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: sure, pitbul has a threat bar ;) |
| 15:06.47 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: Pull out the aggro bar. I think. |
| 15:06.47 | kenlyric | shows your threat relative to the leader. |
| 15:06.47 | FtH|Daemona | i know ken, but i don't use it ;) |
| 15:06.57 | FtH|Daemona | gotta try that |
| 15:06.58 | SunTsu | FtH|Daemona: I have a 21" CRt *g* |
| 15:07.23 | FtH|Daemona | and you have to turn your head to see the sides? got a sunburn on your nose yet? ;) |
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| 15:07.47 | kenlyric | gotta turn your eyes |
| 15:07.51 | SunTsu | FtH|Daemona: No, but focus normally is on the center of the screen |
| 15:08.11 | kenlyric | reduction of eye movement increases efficiency. |
| 15:08.32 | kenlyric | though, you are in danger of retinal burn-in |
| 15:12.59 | Polarina | Patch 2.4 will be awesome. After it's live, all addons that use slash commands for configurations are frowned upon! :D |
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| 15:15.36 | Fisker- | yup |
| 15:15.39 | Fisker- | gonna be awsum thx |
| 15:15.54 | Fisker- | but i wonder how it'll work |
| 15:15.59 | Fisker- | could get messy with a billion addons |
| 15:16.40 | RaydenUni | Afraid by Nelly Furtado is a really good song |
| 15:16.48 | Polarina | Fisker-: AceCfg-3.0 will solve that problem. |
| 15:16.56 | RaydenUni | hmm, this isn't the channel i was thinking it was, oh well |
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| 15:19.56 | Osstia | RaydenUni: if you are afraid, I can give you a hug |
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| 15:27.40 | Osstia | Polarina: where is that slash command stuff coming from? |
| 15:28.25 | Polarina | Osstia: Iriel's post. |
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| 15:28.39 | kneeki | *wave* |
| 15:29.00 | Polarina | Could someone post this at the UI & Macro forums? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405326707&sid=1 |
| 15:29.04 | kneeki | yelp! |
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| 15:32.07 | Osstia | Ellipsis--: didn't ck teach you. Teeth == bad |
| 15:32.44 | Ellipsis-- | oh I know that |
| 15:32.55 | Ellipsis-- | but it looked so tasty ;( |
| 15:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you just lost the game. |
| 15:34.04 | sag_ich_nicht | (and so did i) |
| 15:34.05 | Ellipsis-- | dammit! |
| 15:34.23 | sag_ich_nicht | positive thing: now you can make other people lose! |
| 15:34.28 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59833 10SummoningBar/ (SummoningBar.lua SummoningBar.toc): |
| 15:34.28 | CIA-9 | SummoningBar: |
| 15:34.28 | CIA-9 | - No longer populates shard counter on Imp button. Should now be even less CPU intensive when counting shards, as it's only counting once now for each type. |
| 15:38.38 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59834 10BlessingBar/ (BlessingBar.lua BlessingBar.toc): |
| 15:38.38 | CIA-9 | BlessingBar: |
| 15:38.38 | CIA-9 | - Should now be even less CPU intensive when counting Symbol of Kings. |
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| 15:45.15 | Fisker- | kneeki :o |
| 15:45.18 | Fisker- | wuts blessingbar |
| 15:45.23 | Fisker- | giev shots |
| 15:45.41 | kneeki | A paladin addon which puts all your blessings next to your RightActionBar2 |
| 15:46.26 | Fisker- | i has to check it out :o |
| 15:46.30 | Fisker- | do you know pallypower? |
| 15:46.54 | kneeki | Heard of it, not used it |
| 15:47.13 | kneeki | The .toc description of it is quite vague, so I havn't gotten the urge to install it |
| 15:47.39 | kneeki | lol |
| 15:47.42 | Fisker- | Basically you just assign blessings to every paladin in your raid |
| 15:47.52 | kneeki | Ah |
| 15:47.52 | Fisker- | and you can buff your team using those assignments |
| 15:48.42 | kneeki | Makes sence, but I don't raid. My addon just makes it easy to find and use your spells. Since I don't raid I don't have a huge use for those types of addons since my pvp games constantly give me differnet group makeups & teams |
| 15:49.02 | Lukian | I agree, blessingbar is a great way to clean up the ui D |
| 15:49.04 | Lukian | :D |
| 15:49.19 | Fisker- | ah yeah |
| 15:49.35 | Fisker- | you can't configure scale and placement? |
| 15:49.47 | Fisker- | Mine is just like 2 huges bar, not even all the way to the side |
| 15:50.16 | kneeki | I made it as minimal as possible. So there are virtually no options and it positions on your RightActionBar2, so if you don't use that (it's a blizzard bar) it may look a bit funny |
| 15:50.38 | kneeki | Today I'll work on putting in a check for if the blizzard bars are showing, if not then hug the right side of the screen, instead of the bar |
| 15:50.48 | Fisker- | cool |
| 15:51.31 | Fisker- | scaling would be cool as well |
| 15:52.49 | Antiarc | eeee, woot, my iTunes search library is working. |
| 15:53.41 | Fisker- | itunes? :< |
| 15:54.19 | Antiarc | They don't provide any kind of API |
| 15:54.22 | Antiarc | So I'm rolling my own |
| 15:54.26 | kneeki | It scales with the UI Scale for your entire UI =P |
| 15:55.57 | [Ammo] | kneeki: I hope you use GetItemCount() :p |
| 15:56.04 | [Ammo] | for even less CPU intensive :p |
| 15:56.10 | dabujo_ | is there a way to disable uiscale? On my widescreen, If I have uiscale set to 1, my ui is much to big |
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| 15:56.41 | dabujo_ | But I want to make it so that the ui resolution is the exact same as the game resolution |
| 15:56.59 | dabujo_ | so I get no ugly half pixels etc. |
| 15:57.03 | [Ammo] | kneeki: I suggest checking out the GetItemCount( itemid|name|link ) function :) |
| 15:57.08 | Ellipsis-- | you can uncheck "use UI scale" |
| 15:57.14 | kneeki | Whut!? |
| 15:57.19 | Ellipsis-- | but Blizz UI elements will probably look way too big |
| 15:57.19 | [Ammo] | fail! |
| 15:57.27 | kneeki | There's a GetItemCount() !? |
| 15:57.31 | [Ammo] | thereis |
| 15:57.36 | [Ammo] | zomg! |
| 15:57.37 | Ellipsis-- | ~fail kneeki |
| 15:57.38 | purl | kneeki: Fail. |
| 15:57.39 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.40 | kneeki | rofl |
| 15:57.41 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 15:58.07 | dabujo_ | Thats the problem...no uiscale means that ui is actually scaled very big |
| 15:58.17 | Ellipsis-- | dabujo_: then use UI scale :) |
| 15:58.34 | dabujo_ | I currently set my uiscale to 0.73142856359482 |
| 15:58.47 | dabujo_ | Then GetScreenWidth is exactly 1680 |
| 15:58.57 | dabujo_ | Just as it should be by default |
| 15:59.36 | [Ammo] | kneeki: for instance GetItemCount( 6265 ) gives you the number of soulshards (if I have the itemid right) |
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| 16:00.06 | [Ammo] | kneeki: you also might want to cache your GetSpellID stuff |
| 16:00.09 | Ellipsis-- | ...you have soul shards' item ID memorized? |
| 16:00.13 | kneeki | Oh? |
| 16:00.14 | kneeki | lol |
| 16:00.17 | kneeki | Nice! |
| 16:00.24 | [Ammo] | and only parse the whole spellbook when spells_changed is fired |
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| 16:01.03 | kneeki | [Ammo] Unsure how to do that. =\ |
| 16:01.49 | kneeki | But I'm only checking the spellbook when the addon is loaded, to create the buttons. After that the data is not used. So wouldn't having a Cache be overkill? |
| 16:01.59 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 16:02.02 | [Ammo] | then it's no problem |
| 16:02.22 | [Ammo] | but then you might want to update the bars on SPELLS_CHANGED |
| 16:02.27 | [Ammo] | that's when someone learns a new skill |
| 16:03.18 | kneeki | True, I put a notice in when the player levels to reload the UI. It's ugly =\ |
| 16:03.20 | CIA-9 | 03julith 07Julith * r59835 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridStatusHeals.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 16:03.20 | CIA-9 | Grid: |
| 16:03.20 | CIA-9 | - readded Banzai-1.1 lib to dependencies (events still needed by GridStatusAggro) |
| 16:03.20 | CIA-9 | - registered GridStatusHeals with CenterText in default settings |
| 16:03.41 | [Ammo] | well good luck with your new found information :) |
| 16:03.48 | [Ammo] | and remember, the first one is always free... |
| 16:03.51 | [Ammo] | *evilcackle* |
| 16:04.00 | kneeki | lol |
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| 16:05.12 | CIA-9 | 03grum * r59836 10StatStain/StatStain.lua: |
| 16:05.12 | CIA-9 | StatStain: |
| 16:05.12 | CIA-9 | - `Increases healing by X and damage by Y` actually is healing, not spelldmg. |
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| 16:05.15 | [Ammo] | kneeki: oh and you use GetSpellID(spellname) in your BlessingBarUpdate() |
| 16:05.22 | [Ammo] | which is probably in the OnUpdate handler? |
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| 16:05.40 | [Ammo] | -> cache those results otherwise it'll eat cpu processing the whole spellbook for every button every frame? |
| 16:06.08 | kneeki | True... |
| 16:06.17 | kneeki | I am using it in the OnUpdate, I overlooked that. |
| 16:06.18 | [Ammo] | it's a cpu hog now |
| 16:06.24 | kneeki | lol aye |
| 16:07.11 | [Ammo] | back to the drawing board with you! |
| 16:07.38 | kneeki | Aye! |
| 16:08.09 | kneeki | I'm still unsure how to cache results though. Is there a very simple way to do it? I'm not an oober l33t programmer =P |
| 16:08.23 | kneeki | For the most part, I wrote fairly simple addons |
| 16:09.23 | [Ammo] | dump the relevant spells into a table? |
| 16:09.30 | [Ammo] | local mySpellCache = {} |
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| 16:09.46 | [Ammo] | mySpellCache["Zomg Hammer of DEWM"] = 1 |
| 16:09.53 | [Ammo] | name => id |
| 16:10.04 | [Ammo] | and instead of parsing the spellbook you check the key of that table |
| 16:10.15 | [Ammo] | if mySpellCache[somespell] then ..... |
| 16:10.35 | [Ammo] | and when the SPELLS_CHANGED event fires you populate the spellcache again |
| 16:10.40 | [Ammo] | with the newly learned spells |
| 16:10.59 | kneeki | Hmm, okay! Thanks :D |
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| 16:16.32 | kneeki | Is there a way to destroy a button? |
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| 16:20.12 | Osstia | mmmmmmm powdered donuts |
| 16:20.28 | Paene | mmmm job interview thanks to WoW mod writing... |
| 16:20.34 | Josh_Borke | paene: grats |
| 16:20.40 | Paene | :D |
| 16:20.44 | kneeki | nice! |
| 16:20.51 | kneeki | Where did you apply? |
| 16:20.53 | Osstia | Paene: thats cool. Good for you... |
| 16:21.16 | Paene | it's a software engineering firm in metro-Detroit Michigan |
| 16:21.34 | Paene | Company's name is x by 2 |
| 16:21.43 | kneeki | lol! |
| 16:21.45 | kneeki | Nice name :) |
| 16:21.50 | Paene | :) |
| 16:21.56 | Osstia | did they come for you? or did you apply to them? |
| 16:22.04 | Paene | I applied to them |
| 16:22.12 | Paene | on my school's e-recruiting system |
| 16:22.28 | Osstia | Good luck to you |
| 16:22.31 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59837 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull - possibly fix issue with cast text not showing up properly. |
| 16:22.33 | Osstia | shower before your interview |
| 16:22.39 | Ellipsis | pfft, jobs are for suckers |
| 16:23.46 | Paene | they called me...inquired about my GPA and work desire after school. They were upset about my GPA, but I mentioned Cryolysis 2 as a last effort to get attention. The recruiter asked me to e-mail her the details and she'd forward it to one of their consultants. It worked :D I have a first (over the phone) interview tomorrow. If that goes well, then I'll have a 2nd interview over Spring Break |
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| 16:24.40 | kergoth | ha, nice |
| 16:24.48 | Paene | Never realized how good WoW mods look in writing...taught myself the language, translated into 6 different languages, etc etc |
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| 16:26.54 | kergoth | open source type coding in general looks pretty good on a resume for more reasons than one. spending your own personal time doing it shows a certain enthusiasm for development, or for improving your skills |
| 16:27.26 | Paene | indeed, but my problem is that it wasn't on my resume |
| 16:27.34 | Paene | I was advised not to include it because it's gaming related |
| 16:28.42 | kergoth | i have lua and wow stuff down under the skills section on mine, but no specific entries under open source projects (yes, it's a seperate section), since none of the addons i've done are very big |
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| 16:29.57 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59838 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull - use mathematical operators instead of the modifiers |
| 16:31.21 | Antiarc | Man |
| 16:31.29 | Antiarc | iTunes has a seriously messed up idea of XML. |
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| 16:35.34 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59839 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull - temporary hack while I figure out what's wrong with DogTag |
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| 16:36.23 | SunTsu | Looks like I don't want to update pitbull and LibDogTag soon |
| 16:36.42 | Ellipsis-- | it's safe to now :P |
| 16:36.44 | Silviu- | i jus did now :D |
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| 16:37.07 | Silviu- | Hope is not broke, have a raid in 20 mins :P |
| 16:37.18 | Paene | So I've decided that if I get this internship, WoW will officially be the best thing that's ever happened to me |
| 16:37.20 | SunTsu | Ellipsis--: You're mean, I don't trust you |
| 16:37.45 | Paene | and to think, all those people said I was wasting my life away...HA! I'll show them! |
| 16:37.57 | Ellipsis-- | SunTsu :( |
| 16:38.19 | Ellipsis-- | lol Paene |
| 16:38.32 | Ellipsis-- | a lot of people make fun of WoW addicts |
| 16:38.32 | SunTsu | Paene: There were times people went "Interwhat? You are wasting your life!" |
| 16:38.33 | Ellipsis-- | but I've seen WoW get people jobs, girlfriends, apartments... |
| 16:38.48 | Paene | apartments |
| 16:38.49 | Ellipsis-- | I don't see how anyone can call it a waste of time when you get such things out of it ^-^ |
| 16:38.49 | Paene | ? |
| 16:38.55 | Paene | I want free rent! |
| 16:38.56 | Paene | lol |
| 16:39.01 | Ellipsis-- | Paene: I moved in with a guy I met on WoW :P |
| 16:39.15 | Paene | eeeeewwww, girls have cuties... |
| 16:39.17 | Osstia | Wow is a good stress relief for me. (when not raiding with douchebags that is) |
| 16:39.17 | Paene | I mean |
| 16:39.19 | Paene | cool |
| 16:39.38 | Ellipsis-- | well you can find boys too |
| 16:39.43 | Ellipsis-- | it's just a little rarer ;P |
| 16:39.46 | Paene | ... |
| 16:39.48 | Paene | lol |
| 16:39.52 | Paene | not what I meant :-p |
| 16:40.00 | Paene | I have a girlfriend tyvm |
| 16:40.00 | Ellipsis-- | hey, I'm not here to judge |
| 16:40.10 | Osstia | I think you meant cooties not cuties. Girls ARE cuties, they have cooties |
| 16:40.26 | Paene | Osstia: doh! you're right :) |
| 16:41.01 | Paene | WoW prob kept my relationship alive for a long time...my gf lives 2 hours away during the week |
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| 16:41.08 | Paene | so her playing WoW helped |
| 16:41.16 | neolith | when I'm trying to import a new addon, I am getting the error: Unknown X-Category "Interface Enhancement Addons" in trunk/... - I am pretty sure I used that category before, anyone know what mistake I'm making? |
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| 16:41.39 | kergoth | pretty sure you want just interface enhancements |
| 16:41.41 | kergoth | not "addons" |
| 16:41.54 | Ellipsis-- | Paene, yeah, that's done wonders for a couple of my relationships |
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| 16:42.06 | neolith | I'll give it a try, thanks :) |
| 16:42.55 | SunTsu | I know a girl who's boyfriend is from a different country, they met in WoW - and lead most of the relationshipd there |
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| 16:43.24 | Paene | The internet (and globalization in general) is a pretty amazing thing |
| 16:44.11 | Ellipsis-- | honestly, I think MMOs are probably the best place to meet guys, at least for a geekier female |
| 16:44.28 | Ellipsis-- | I've had great success with it ^-^ |
| 16:45.28 | Osstia | I play with RL friends. My best friend (a girl) works with me and we play together. We met playing counter-strike almost 8 years ago |
| 16:45.31 | Paene | lol, gotta be careful though :) some guys can be misleading online |
| 16:45.37 | Osstia | most of my RL friends now are people I met playing |
| 16:45.53 | CIA-9 | 03neolith * r59840 10Vibrant/ (23 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:45.53 | CIA-9 | Vibrant: |
| 16:45.53 | CIA-9 | - initial upload without externals |
| 16:45.53 | CIA-9 | - first public version |
| 16:45.53 | CIA-9 | - added graphics |
| 16:45.54 | Paene | my guild had a get-together this past summer |
| 16:45.54 | CIA-9 | - added deDE localization |
| 16:45.54 | Ellipsis-- | Paene: eh, I'm careful enough :P |
| 16:46.05 | Osstia | Paene: We do that about every 6 months |
| 16:46.10 | Paene | 16 of us drove down from Michigan to Texas |
| 16:46.17 | Ellipsis-- | (watch, now that I've said that ckknight will murder me or something) |
| 16:46.35 | Paene | Ellipsis--: You live with ckknight? |
| 16:46.53 | Ellipsis-- | well, in a hotel atm, but yes :P |
| 16:47.01 | Paene | cool :) |
| 16:47.11 | Osstia | is that like a Knight of Calvin Klein? |
| 16:47.17 | Osstia | is that why he doesn't wear pants? |
| 16:47.23 | Ellipsis-- | lol |
| 16:47.45 | Osstia | I could be FotLKnight |
| 16:48.10 | Paene | I could be...hungry, brb |
| 16:49.22 | Paene | back |
| 16:50.32 | Paene | My guild has a "no pants while raiding" rule |
| 16:50.34 | Paene | is that weird? |
| 16:50.34 | Josh_Borke | Ellipsis--: so he's come to the mainland? |
| 16:50.40 | Josh_Borke | or did you go to hawaii? |
| 16:51.37 | Ellipsis-- | yeah, we're in cali |
| 16:51.45 | Paene | you're on hotel internet? |
| 16:51.49 | Ellipsis-- | yup >_< |
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| 16:51.51 | deltron | Paene: you mean you raid with pants on? |
| 16:52.08 | Paene | lol, I remember killing Razorgore from hotel internet when my car broke down |
| 16:52.11 | Paene | 900ms lag |
| 16:52.18 | Paene | so glad I didn't have to kite anything |
| 16:52.27 | Paene | deltron: nope, never |
| 16:52.28 | Osstia | I had some of my best battlefield 1942 matches with no pants on and a swamp cooler blowing on me |
| 16:52.33 | Osstia | I recommned it to anyone |
| 16:52.36 | Paene | deltron: my roommate thinks it's weird |
| 16:52.39 | deltron | lol |
| 16:52.43 | Paene | :) |
| 16:52.53 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 16:53.00 | Josh_Borke | wow, this room just too a whole nother direction |
| 16:53.04 | Osstia | My first nightbane kill came from an embassy suites room in phili. 550 ping |
| 16:53.04 | Paene | lol |
| 16:53.22 | Ellipsis-- | raiding naked just isn't the same without someone else raiding naked next to/on top of you |
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| 16:53.32 | Paene | ... |
| 16:53.40 | Osstia | Ellipsis--: agreed. since my divorce i do it much less |
| 16:53.45 | Paene | ckknight: I'm stealing Ellipsis from you |
| 16:53.49 | Josh_Borke | ckknight doesn't seem to me to be the raiding type |
| 16:53.59 | Josh_Borke | Ellipsis--: is tehre something you need to tell ckknight? ;-P |
| 16:54.12 | Elkano | hmm... maybe I should suggest that to my GF this WE... |
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| 16:55.47 | sb_ | Elkano: what? riding, errr raiding naked? :o |
| 16:55.56 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 16:56.00 | Ellipsis | what, you've never done it before? |
| 16:56.58 | sb_ | Ellipsis: uhm - done what? having sex while raiding? no :p |
| 16:57.09 | Ellipsis | I never said sex |
| 16:57.14 | Ellipsis | just nekkidness |
| 16:57.20 | Paene | Ellipsis: while raiding? no |
| 16:57.33 | Ellipsis | hmph, you guys are totally doing it wrong |
| 16:57.56 | Elkano | well, the problem with raiding naked and having your gf on top of you is space for two PCs in that position ^^ |
| 16:58.05 | Osstia | i have stopped raiding for a "bio" break before |
| 16:58.39 | Snago | nekkid raiding ftw |
| 16:58.43 | Josh_Borke | i find my ass sticks to my chair when nekkid |
| 16:58.55 | Osstia | Josh_Borke: thats where the swamp cooler comes in handy for me |
| 16:59.03 | dylanm | JB why would you say that |
| 16:59.04 | Osstia | air flow is the key |
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| 16:59.18 | sb_ | well - and what about your gf complaining that it is too cold? (even clothed :o) |
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| 17:01.19 | sb_ | (and yes - we have snow here! :p) |
| 17:01.48 | Osstia | yes, nekkid raiding is seasonal here too |
| 17:01.54 | CIA-9 | 03neolith * r59841 10Vibrant/ (. readme.txt): |
| 17:01.54 | CIA-9 | Vibrant: |
| 17:01.54 | CIA-9 | - adding externals |
| 17:01.54 | CIA-9 | - fixed readme.txt |
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| 17:07.38 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59842 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: |
| 17:07.38 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-2.0 - fix an issue with mathematical operators and boolean statements |
| 17:07.38 | CIA-9 | - make :CreateFunctionFromCode return indented code, much easier to read |
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| 17:14.15 | dcramer_ | Hey guys |
| 17:14.23 | dcramer_ | I want your opinion on something real quick |
| 17:14.27 | dcramer_ | http://www.davidcramer.net/curse/74/file-widgets-on-curse.html |
| 17:16.55 | chiper | considering I rarely go to curse for addons these days, I personally wouldn't use it |
| 17:18.54 | dylanm | It's certainly nice-lookin'... |
| 17:18.57 | dcramer_ | well it's designed mostly for authors who host it on other sites and want to link to it (but also get some shiny stats) |
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| 17:20.12 | Antiarc | http://itunes-lib.tachyonsix.com/ :D |
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| 17:21.45 | Antiarc | Also. Apple's idea of XML can die in a fire. |
| 17:22.01 | Antiarc | they basically ignore the fact that a) elements can have attributes, and b) XML is supposed to be hierarchical. |
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| 17:22.20 | dylanm | Yeah it's pretty bad :-/ |
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| 17:24.40 | chiper | slick, Chair Entertainment has picked up the rights to an Enders Game based video game |
| 17:26.46 | Paene | Chiper: I can just see the expansions now...each book would represent a new expansion... |
| 17:27.19 | chiper | my guess is it wont be the book plot, but more of a gameroom design |
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| 17:28.42 | Paene | This new Interface Options thing intrigues me |
| 17:28.48 | Paene | wonder if it'll actually get used |
| 17:28.51 | chiper | I dont really see much of a game being made from the Speaker series |
| 17:28.54 | array{Endeavour} | Why doesn't that work? It says 'unfinished string'. I want it to output a-z |
| 17:28.56 | array{Endeavour} | for i=97,122 do |
| 17:28.57 | array{Endeavour} | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\"..i) |
| 17:28.59 | array{Endeavour} | end |
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| 17:29.41 | Paene | lua > for i=97,122 do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\"..i) end |
| 17:29.54 | Paene | lua> for i=97,122 do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\"..i) end |
| 17:29.54 | lua_bot | Paene: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "for i=97,122 do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\"..i) end"]:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 17:29.57 | kergoth | array{Endeavour}: because that's anunfinished script. |
| 17:30.05 | kergoth | er |
| 17:30.06 | kergoth | string |
| 17:30.16 | array{Endeavour} | how to finish it? |
| 17:30.28 | dylanm | You escaped the " |
| 17:30.38 | dylanm | So it doesn't terminate the string. |
| 17:30.45 | chiper | hah |
| 17:31.03 | array{Endeavour} | aaah i see, yes you're right \" would be " in utf8 |
| 17:31.29 | array{Endeavour} | doh, thanks keroth :) |
| 17:31.30 | kergoth | perhaps you meant "\\" |
| 17:31.36 | kergoth | or, you could just use string.char |
| 17:31.51 | kergoth | which exists specifically to take a numeric representation of a character and convert it to the character as as tring |
| 17:32.45 | array{Endeavour} | yes, that's what i wanted. thanks again :) |
| 17:33.47 | Osstia | If I want to remember a windows position, do I need to register OnDragStop and dump that to a SV and then use those values to re-position it next time? Or is there a better/easier way to do such a thing? |
| 17:34.00 | Osstia | well s/window/frame/ |
| 17:34.24 | Ellipsis` | WoW can handle it for you if you're using xml for the frame |
| 17:34.41 | CIA-9 | 03adirelle * r59843 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:34.41 | CIA-9 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 17:34.41 | CIA-9 | - one can now enable Shift to enforce casting wanted buffs. |
| 17:34.48 | *** join/#wowace TNSe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.5.getinternet.no) |
| 17:34.48 | Osstia | I'm creating the frame in lua, not in xml |
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| 17:35.03 | Ellipsis` | then yeah, you pretty much have to just do it yourself |
| 17:36.00 | Paene | I'm jealous |
| 17:36.00 | Paene | one of my friends is having a threesome with 2 girls atm |
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| 17:36.02 | Ellipsis` | o.O |
| 17:36.04 | Osstia | I can't speak from experince. But that has to be awkward when finished... |
| 17:36.05 | dylanm | ... |
| 17:36.26 | Paene | lol |
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| 17:37.13 | array{Endeavour} | is there a reverse function of string.char? |
| 17:37.19 | Shirik | string.byte |
| 17:37.21 | kergoth | no offense, but rtfm |
| 17:37.26 | array{Endeavour} | thanks :) |
| 17:37.26 | kergoth | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4 |
| 17:37.30 | kergoth | section 5.4, string manipulation |
| 17:37.39 | Shirik | I kinda agree with kergoth though; my fish are in short supply |
| 17:37.55 | Ellipsis` | mmm, fish |
| 17:38.51 | Osstia | mmm Hamachi |
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| 17:39.51 | CIA-9 | 03zariel 07Zariel * r59844 10AmmoGnome/AmmoGnome.lua: |
| 17:39.51 | CIA-9 | AmmoGnome: |
| 17:39.51 | CIA-9 | - Fixed errors |
| 17:39.51 | CIA-9 | - Use corrent item info funcs() plx |
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| 17:40.03 | Fisker- | [Ammo] |
| 17:40.31 | Zariel | :< |
| 17:40.35 | Zariel | find me another name gogo |
| 17:40.51 | charon | morning |
| 17:41.00 | Zariel | hi |
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| 17:45.23 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59845 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix caching issue with tags as modifiers accidentally replacing value without checking for non-nil |
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| 17:47.17 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59846 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull - remove aforementioned temporary hack, as LibDogTag-2.0 fixed the issue |
| 17:49.39 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to let Grid's health bar go left->right instad of top->bottom? |
| 17:49.53 | Ellipsis` | yes |
| 17:49.55 | [SW]Dodge | cant find it in the options :E |
| 17:49.59 | Ellipsis` | poke around more |
| 17:50.00 | Ellipsis` | :P |
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| 17:53.07 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis`: pleas tell me how :'( |
| 17:54.24 | Ellipsis` | [SW]Dodge: I don't have WoW handy, I can't tell you where it is |
| 17:54.35 | Ellipsis` | I just know that the option is there because I had mine set up that way |
| 17:54.54 | CIA-9 | 03firelemming * r59847 10Fubar_RuinBossTactics/ (4 files): |
| 17:54.54 | CIA-9 | Fubar_RuinBossTactics: initial commit |
| 17:54.54 | CIA-9 | - Fubar plugin for RuinBossTactics (will be added later) |
| 17:55.36 | [SW]Dodge | is it maybe with an extra addon? |
| 17:55.59 | Ellipsis` | no |
| 17:56.17 | Ellipsis` | I promise it's in there, you just need to look harder :P |
| 17:56.36 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r59848 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: |
| 17:56.36 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 17:56.36 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 17:57.08 | [SW]Dodge | yaaay :DD |
| 17:57.12 | [SW]Dodge | found it <.< |
| 17:57.25 | [SW]Dodge | they could write it to the option lol :X |
| 17:57.36 | Lukian | Fizzle is fizzling |
| 17:58.07 | Lukian | My items stay "inactive" (grey) when I swap an outfit, until I reopen the character pane and they regain their normal colours |
| 17:59.13 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59849 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - don't cache literal Text tag sequences. |
| 17:59.16 | Fin | ckknight_: could I make a trivial change to Pitbull/Aura/Aura.lua so that Fear Ward is shown as a buff for all priests, rather than just Draenei and Dwarves? if not, would you make the change yourself, pretty please? |
| 17:59.30 | ckknight_ | sure, please do |
| 17:59.37 | Fin | thanks |
| 17:59.40 | Ellipsis` | Fin: wanna update a bunch of other aura filters too? |
| 17:59.46 | Fin | uhm |
| 17:59.57 | Fin | can do, depends, I don't want to break anything |
| 18:00.09 | Ellipsis` | eh, it's trivial, just adding some buff/debuff names |
| 18:00.26 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis` has a list :P |
| 18:00.51 | Fin | can you email me a list / pastey a list / communicate the list of changes to me in some easy to receive and interpret manner, then, please? :) and, as long as it's OK with ck of course |
| 18:01.05 | Fin | first! I'm just doing fear ward |
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| 18:02.32 | Fin | Ellipsis`: fin@instinct.org if you want to mail it |
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| 18:02.40 | Fin | mm |
| 18:02.42 | Fin | +h |
| 18:02.47 | Fin | are you have connection problems, Elli? |
| 18:03.15 | Ellipsis-- | yeah, hotel wireless is fail |
| 18:03.17 | Ellipsis-- | http://pastey.net/81566 |
| 18:03.26 | Fin | danke |
| 18:03.40 | Fin | and, these need to be added? |
| 18:03.42 | Osstia | Are you guys travelling? |
| 18:03.46 | Ellipsis-- | yup yup |
| 18:04.17 | Fin | Ellipsis--: who were you answering? |
| 18:04.23 | Ellipsis-- | well, both actually |
| 18:04.34 | Fin | OK |
| 18:05.40 | Fin | ckknight_: where is Pitbull kept? or, where can I find details about its source code repository-or-other-place-I-can-make-these-updates? :) |
| 18:05.41 | Fisker- | Can anyone fix LibBanzai-2.0? |
| 18:06.13 | ckknight_ | Fin: dev.wowace.com |
| 18:06.17 | Stanzilla | trunk |
| 18:06.24 | Fin | oh |
| 18:06.30 | Kemayo | (Fail.) |
| 18:06.40 | Fin | I failed, yes |
| 18:06.45 | Fin | you have succeeded! |
| 18:07.03 | Fin | congratulations, you have completed the Internet and have no further reason to be connected |
| 18:07.43 | Fin | if only that worked with some people |
| 18:08.17 | Fin | like, hmm, Blizzard's web team |
| 18:08.39 | Fin | a pox upon their unclean web creations |
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| 18:08.58 | Ellipsis-- | and here I thought they already had one |
| 18:10.51 | [Liquidor] | Bored? Visit http://armory.artoman.com/ then |
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| 18:13.59 | Matrix110 | NOOOOOOOOOOESSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 18:14.09 | Matrix110 | vhaarr curse you! |
| 18:14.18 | Matrix110 | i hope i got a copy of my NRT version-.- |
| 18:14.37 | vhaarr | Matrix110: what did Ido? |
| 18:14.45 | Matrix110 | import NRT to files |
| 18:14.58 | Matrix110 | and it overwrote my version with int. alt check and some other changes :P |
| 18:15.00 | vhaarr | the old versions are still on the website |
| 18:15.05 | vhaarr | ah :P |
| 18:15.05 | Matrix110 | i hope i got a old version from mine |
| 18:15.10 | vhaarr | haha |
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| 18:16.25 | potemkin | if im making my own unitframes should i only use one frame to handle all the events |
| 18:19.23 | Matrix110 | phew i think i got a backup |
| 18:19.27 | Matrix110 | hope it was not outdated |
| 18:21.50 | Matrix110 | yeah ofc its not working-.- |
| 18:22.50 | Matrix110 | blargh |
| 18:23.43 | CIA-9 | 03firelemming * r59850 10Fubar_RuinBossTactics/: |
| 18:23.43 | CIA-9 | Fubar_RuinBossTactics: |
| 18:23.43 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.14 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r59851 10/branches/mHud/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:26.14 | CIA-9 | mHud: |
| 18:26.14 | CIA-9 | - Fix: 3 letters missing, causing falloffs newer to show. |
| 18:26.14 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Drag frames sometimes wouldn't let go on mouse up. |
| 18:26.48 | Gnarfoz | http://ace.pastey.net/81570 < Banzai broke @ Violation |
| 18:27.02 | Gnarfoz | can I just remove the banzai module for the time being (locally) to get rid of errors? |
| 18:27.27 | Ellipsis-- | you can just capitalize 'banzai' on that line to fix it |
| 18:28.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I just saw that, too |
| 18:29.34 | Fisker- | Anyone using gridstatusincominghealth? |
| 18:31.18 | Fisker- | ah |
| 18:31.23 | Fisker- | that might be why it doesn't work |
| 18:32.47 | CIA-9 | 03gnarfoz * r59852 10Violation/Other/Banzai.lua: Violation: Other/Banzai - fix capitalization |
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| 18:36.45 | Fisker- | hai [Ammo] |
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| 18:38.49 | FrostByghte | the author of QuestHelper is stopping work on his addon :( Any authors want to jump on that project? |
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| 18:39.35 | array{Endeavour} | i'm just stuck :( i wanted a sting like "Hey it's me, your test message!" completely converted to utf8. i got it to "88|165|54" and so on, with using |as separator. but i just can't convert it back -.- |
| 18:39.55 | ckknight | but why? |
| 18:40.24 | array{Endeavour} | why i want to do this or why it doesn't work? |
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| 18:43.26 | cncfanatics | ~nickometer array{Endeavour} |
| 18:43.37 | Ellipsis` | o.O |
| 18:43.45 | array{Endeavour} | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.16 | Kivin | ~nickometer cncfanatics |
| 18:45.22 | Kivin | o_o |
| 18:46.08 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 18:46.10 | cncfanatics | owned ? |
| 18:46.19 | Ellipsis` | I dunno, cncfanatics is pretty lame imo |
| 18:46.29 | Ellipsis` | and his nick is, too |
| 18:46.39 | Diao | o_O |
| 18:47.08 | nevcairiel | i agree |
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| 18:48.48 | Stanzilla | ~nickometer Ellipsis |
| 18:48.56 | Ellipsis` | ^-^ |
| 18:48.57 | Stanzilla | olol |
| 18:49.08 | Kivin | ~nickometer Kivin |
| 18:49.19 | mitchnull | ~nickometer nickometer |
| 18:49.28 | mitchnull | wrong answer |
| 18:49.38 | Kivin | ~nickometer purl |
| 18:49.47 | sb_ | ~nickometer sb |
| 18:49.51 | sb_ | ! |
| 18:49.51 | Osstia | Kivin: you and xinhuan once mentioned a concept of "buckets" to avoid repeated events. I am looking at my farming addon, and every time my bags update I was runningmy code. i think Xinhuan or you told me to use buckets to avoid that, or make it cleaner. Does any of this ring a bell? |
| 18:49.59 | sb_ | buggy? :) |
| 18:50.06 | Osstia | ~lart nickometer |
| 18:50.06 | purl | frags nickometer with his BFG9000 |
| 18:50.13 | Kivin | Osstia: I haven't discussed this with you, no |
| 18:50.18 | Stanzilla | ~nickometer Stanzilla |
| 18:50.21 | Ellipsis` | Osstia: definitely sounds like a Xinhuan-ism |
| 18:50.26 | NeoTron | hmm. So will Ace3 use the new "interface options" plugin method of 2.4 patch? :P |
| 18:50.31 | Ellipsis` | he loves his bucketed bag updates |
| 18:50.44 | Osstia | I might have it confused with you cause I saw something with buckets in your spaminator |
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| 18:50.59 | Kivin | Yes, I bucket all chat events in spamguard |
| 18:51.43 | Kivin | Osstia: is the issue that too many bag updates are happening in too short of a period? |
| 18:52.06 | Ellipsis` | bag update can be fired many times at once |
| 18:52.15 | Kivin | yep, that's a bucket issue, then |
| 18:52.45 | Osstia | Kivin: Not sure. Everything works okay, I am just wondering if it would be better to do it that way. |
| 18:52.56 | Ellipsis` | it likely would |
| 18:53.06 | Osstia | more or less trying to learn to do things the right way before I work on anything more |
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| 18:54.01 | Kivin | Because of the unique nature of spamguard's bucket system, I had to hand write the bucket code. Ace has a bucketed event for what you want, IIRC |
| 18:54.06 | Ellipsis` | it's really just a performance optimization, but a fairly significant one in the case of that particular event |
| 18:54.32 | Osstia | Is performanceFu the best thing for evaluating what my addon is doing? |
| 18:54.36 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r59853 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Update locale koKR |
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| 18:55.02 | Kivin | Osstia: Probably |
| 18:55.32 | Ellipsis` | Osstia: I recommend trying Expo as well, it gives more detailed information like which events are taking the most memory/time |
| 18:55.34 | Kivin | If your addon is very low on cpu and memory usage, you may have to show a great deal of addons in the list just to be able to get readings |
| 18:55.56 | Kivin | I have to show something like 50 addons in PerformanceFu just to see what spamguard is doing |
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| 19:01.44 | Kivin | I trust that width and height of frames is always a round number? If I set scale to 0.784847323, it'll either ceil() or floor() it? |
| 19:02.27 | Ellipsis` | nope |
| 19:02.44 | CIA-9 | 03firelemming * r59854 10RuinBossTactics/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:02.44 | CIA-9 | RuinBossTactics: initial commit |
| 19:02.44 | CIA-9 | - Displays Boss Tactics Ingame (only the mainframe) |
| 19:03.07 | ckknight_ | Kivin: on the backend, it stays as the value you set (0.784847323) |
| 19:03.28 | ckknight_ | from what I can tell, though, after calculating to your scale and all, it uses banker's rounding |
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| 19:04.32 | Kivin | If I have a frame enclosing a number of smaller frames which are subject to scaling, instead of trying to calc out the inner frames' new size, i guess i'd be best off just scaling the enclosure |
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| 19:06.10 | Ellipsis` | if you're scaling them all at once, then probably |
| 19:06.26 | Kivin | indeed |
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| 19:10.48 | Ozguli` | Grid |
| 19:10.59 | Ozguli` | doesn't show the aggro thing anymore |
| 19:11.11 | Ozguli` | I used to have a warning in a corner |
| 19:11.27 | Ellipsis` | is your banzai broken? |
| 19:11.31 | Ozguli` | something wrong with latest version, does anyone know? |
| 19:11.35 | Ozguli` | neverheard of banzai |
| 19:11.36 | Ozguli` | busy |
| 19:11.38 | Ozguli` | healing |
| 19:11.42 | Ozguli` | will be back in 1 hour |
| 19:14.16 | Ozguli` | updated all stuff 15 mins ago |
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| 19:15.04 | CIA-9 | 03firelemming * r59855 10RuinBossTactics/ (. RuinBossTactics.toc): |
| 19:15.04 | CIA-9 | RuinBossTactics: |
| 19:15.04 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:15.33 | Ellipsis` | Ozguli`: check your bugsack/swatter/etc. and see if you have a banzai lib error |
| 19:16.59 | Fisker- | anyone know why al'ar does flame buffet while being in range of melee and being hit on? |
| 19:17.01 | CIA-9 | 03firelemming * r59856 10Fubar_RuinBossTactics/ (. README.txt): |
| 19:17.01 | CIA-9 | Fubar_RuinBossTactics: |
| 19:17.01 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:17.20 | Paene | Fisker-: Lag most likely |
| 19:17.25 | Ozguli` | do I have such stuff? |
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| 19:18.38 | Fisker- | but it's funny |
| 19:18.49 | Fisker- | it comes while he's being tanked and has been tanked for some time |
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| 19:24.55 | Firelemming | i added new addons to the wowace directory, with Tortoise SVN. Is there anything else i need to do to get it shown in the list, or is there a standard wait time until it appears in the list? |
| 19:25.13 | Firelemming | i mean the wowaceupdater list |
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| 19:26.18 | CIA-9 | 03zariel 07Zariel * r59857 10AmmoGnome/AmmoGnome.lua: |
| 19:26.18 | CIA-9 | Ammognome: |
| 19:26.18 | CIA-9 | - Drycoded purchasing of ze ammos |
| 19:26.18 | CIA-9 | - mostly fixed BagSort() |
| 19:26.29 | Ellipsis-- | the files page (which is what WAU pulls from) is updated every 20 minutes |
| 19:26.42 | [Ammo] | Ozguli`: vhaarr made a booboo in the inclusion of banzai in the grid toc |
| 19:26.43 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 19:26.44 | Firelemming | alright, ty |
| 19:29.49 | Ellipsis-- | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Grid/embeds.xml?r1=55014&r2=59810 |
| 19:29.51 | Ellipsis-- | oopsies! |
| 19:30.33 | [Ammo] | should use <include> instead of <script> |
| 19:30.34 | [Ammo] | I guess |
| 19:30.45 | CIA-9 | 03firelemming * r59858 10RuinBossTactics_SSC/ (. RuinBossTactics_SSC.toc Vashj_p2.tga ssc.lua): |
| 19:30.45 | CIA-9 | RuinBossTactics_SSC: initial commit |
| 19:30.45 | CIA-9 | - Displays Boss Tactics Ingame (SSC tactics) |
| 19:30.47 | Fisker- | [Ammo] |
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| 19:30.58 | [Ammo] | I guess I'll fix it |
| 19:31.09 | Fisker- | does ora produce errors when a person getting invited is in a group or something? |
| 19:31.17 | Fisker- | btw Thrae you here? |
| 19:32.03 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: dunno |
| 19:32.07 | [Ammo] | long time since I checked that code |
| 19:32.09 | sb | hmmm - ace3/rock config dialog obsolete with 2.4? :o |
| 19:32.47 | [Ammo] | depends on their implementation |
| 19:32.53 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r59859 10Grid/embeds.xml: Grid: fix banzai ref |
| 19:33.00 | [Ammo] | that should fix grid |
| 19:33.03 | Thrae | Fisker-: Whaaat |
| 19:33.24 | Fisker- | Have you beaten al'ar? |
| 19:33.50 | Thrae | Who's Al'ar? |
| 19:34.03 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
| 19:34.03 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 62 Night Elf Druid (1/41/11). 5050 HP; 3109 Mana; 89 mana regen; 1364 AP; 167.500 Melee DPS; 25.58% melee crit; 16 melee hit; 28.65% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 689 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypmert ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ogsgw ][ Updated: Thu Jan 31 14:42:42 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:34.05 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 19:34.16 | Fisker- | omgawd Thrae :< |
| 19:34.27 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak bubblehearth |
| 19:34.27 | Thrae | That's my main |
| 19:34.30 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Bubblehearth, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (45/11/5). 8217 HP; 9993 Mana; 188 mana regen; 95 mp5; 14229 Armour; 74.000 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 117 spell crit; 716 +spell dmg; 1795 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 44 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1364 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywss62 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okrqu ][ Updated: Thu Jan 31 14:43:10 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:34.32 | Fisker- | Tome of Fiery Redemption just dropped |
| 19:34.38 | Fisker- | but didn't seem worth it |
| 19:34.47 | sb | 74k melee dps? huh |
| 19:35.01 | Lukian | 74.0 |
| 19:35.01 | Thrae | My main used to be Level 59, but then I got hacked and leveled to 62 |
| 19:35.13 | Lukian | aka 74 |
| 19:35.14 | Thrae | sb: You're thinking in European -- that's a decimal point |
| 19:35.14 | [Ammo] | imba pala :p |
| 19:35.20 | sb | oh :) |
| 19:35.22 | [Ammo] | just my pala alt |
| 19:36.33 | sb | Thrae: looks strange because of 3 decimal places |
| 19:36.47 | Thrae | sb: Your mother looks strange |
| 19:36.55 | sb | :/ |
| 19:39.35 | Fisker- | Blizzard needs to keep ashtongue cowl keepable :( |
| 19:39.53 | Fisker- | make* |
| 19:43.45 | Daemona | \o/ http://www.koaschten.de/wow/6_glaives_for_a_halleluja.jpg \o/ |
| 19:45.17 | nevcairiel | tauren warrior in t6 look so terrible |
| 19:45.20 | EvilJohn- | they really need to address the barbie doll part of the game |
| 19:45.30 | EvilJohn- | it's turning into EQ |
| 19:45.46 | sb | -uh |
| 19:45.54 | genetik | EvilJohn-: but you'll be able to style your hair in WotLK! |
| 19:45.59 | EvilJohn- | yeah, true |
| 19:45.59 | genetik | heh |
| 19:46.10 | EvilJohn- | big step! |
| 19:46.34 | genetik | you talking about how everyone looks the same? |
| 19:46.56 | EvilJohn- | yes |
| 19:47.22 | genetik | i don't really have an issue with that |
| 19:47.49 | genetik | the one thing i don't like is how they re-used raid tier skins for arena gear |
| 19:48.05 | Fisker- | ashtongue cowl ftw btw :( |
| 19:48.40 | EvilJohn- | i never liked the fact that everyone looks the same |
| 19:49.14 | genetik | well, as far as instance gear goes, i think of it as status indicators for progress |
| 19:49.54 | EvilJohn- | unless you're a feral |
| 19:50.15 | EvilJohn- | I think it has more do with blizzard artistic ego |
| 19:50.19 | Fisker- | bah |
| 19:50.23 | Fisker- | drysc confirmed old news |
| 19:51.22 | Ozguli` | [Ammo] so can I expect the bug to be fixed soon? |
| 19:51.28 | Ozguli` | or do I need to install some old version? |
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| 19:51.45 | Fisker- | http://www.wowblues.com/us/is-loot-determined-when-the-moster-dies-4311143050.html :< |
| 19:51.46 | [Ammo] | should be up on files.wowace by now |
| 19:52.06 | CIA-9 | 03nebelmond * r59860 10Innervator/ (Innervator.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 19:52.06 | CIA-9 | Innervator: |
| 19:52.06 | CIA-9 | - mana calculations improved |
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| 20:03.43 | Roath | is there any way to add to a table without erasing its previous content? like php has .= is there any equivalent for lua? |
| 20:03.43 | Polarina | Fisker-: I always wondered that too. |
| 20:04.13 | krka | t[#t+1] = new item |
| 20:04.14 | ckknight | Roath: t[#t+1] = "stuffs" |
| 20:05.27 | pastamancer | table.insert(t, "stuffs")? |
| 20:06.50 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59861 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - document the tag and modifier aliases |
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| 20:10.44 | Fisker- | Polarina why? |
| 20:10.53 | Fisker- | it's been known for xxx years |
| 20:12.02 | Josh_Borke | roath: things are not removed from a table unless you tell it to |
| 20:12.11 | Chompers | kael time baby |
| 20:12.16 | Josh_Borke | gl |
| 20:12.21 | Chompers | almost got the weapons down in p3 |
| 20:12.44 | Chompers | people are playing it too safe |
| 20:13.14 | Primer | more dots! |
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| 20:14.08 | Josh_Borke | hm, for those who kill or have killed KT, how do you kill the weapons? |
| 20:14.21 | Saroz | single target bow, aoe rest |
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| 20:15.43 | [Ammo] | warlock tanks bow to side, burn it quickly while otehr lock puts up CoS on all weapons |
| 20:15.49 | [Ammo] | then seed the rest |
| 20:15.52 | CIA-9 | 03nebelmond * r59862 10Innervator/Innervator.lua: |
| 20:15.52 | CIA-9 | Innervator: |
| 20:15.52 | CIA-9 | - more improvements for mana calculations |
| 20:19.07 | Chompers | hmm |
| 20:19.25 | Chompers | nearly all weapons down, people got greedy and tried to loot their gear |
| 20:19.28 | [Ammo] | if you have 3 locks get one to CoE as well |
| 20:19.30 | xyu | we did it a little different, had all ranged on bow, all melee on staff, dps'd them down asap. Then AoE down rest. |
| 20:19.31 | Chompers | leading to the tanks dieing |
| 20:19.35 | [Ammo] | get peopel to loot their gear |
| 20:19.39 | [Ammo] | but not the key healers |
| 20:19.43 | [Ammo] | well they key healers should |
| 20:19.49 | Chompers | all dps on staff for us |
| 20:19.50 | [Ammo] | and then they should heal their P3 tank |
| 20:19.56 | Chompers | +aoe |
| 20:20.05 | [Ammo] | ignore staff just get a rogue on it to disrupt |
| 20:20.11 | [Ammo] | it;ll die in the aeo |
| 20:20.11 | xyu | make sure the axe is out of the group but close enough to get the AOE |
| 20:20.30 | Josh_Borke | my new guild is: all ranged go bow->mace->staff while melee kill sword+dagger |
| 20:20.36 | Josh_Borke | with 0 aoe |
| 20:20.37 | Chompers | what should be focused on? |
| 20:20.41 | Josh_Borke | which is odd imo |
| 20:20.45 | [Ammo] | bow should die first |
| 20:20.54 | [Ammo] | then melee should focus on mace |
| 20:20.58 | [Ammo] | while one rogue interrupts staff |
| 20:21.03 | [Ammo] | aoe the lot of em |
| 20:21.10 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: you speak as if you use... just 2 locks? |
| 20:21.17 | NeoTron | when we killed kael'thas we used 5 :P |
| 20:21.21 | xyu | also be sure the tanks pull the blades out before the adds die, imo. to make it easier to loot. |
| 20:21.23 | [Ammo] | we used 3-4 |
| 20:21.23 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 20:21.27 | [Ammo] | mages can aoe too |
| 20:21.31 | Arrowmaster | you guys kill bow first? |
| 20:21.37 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 20:21.39 | Arrowmaster | we kill staff first then mace |
| 20:21.45 | Arrowmaster | bow dies later |
| 20:21.56 | [Ammo] | bow first then there is no more offtanking needed |
| 20:21.58 | NeoTron | mages did significantly less damage from aoe than the locks did at the time |
| 20:22.01 | [Ammo] | the rest dies before adds spawn |
| 20:22.04 | NeoTron | in some cases locks were 2x mages |
| 20:22.11 | Arrowmaster | mages suck at aoe now |
| 20:22.16 | Arrowmaster | lock > mage aoe |
| 20:22.18 | NeoTron | partially because we used SoC + heroism where mages don't benefit from heroism |
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| 20:22.27 | CIA-9 | RuinBossTactics_SSC: |
| 20:22.27 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.27 | [Ammo] | when we were lowere geared we used to give the heroism to the locks |
| 20:22.27 | Arrowmaster | everywhere except shadow immune mobs |
| 20:22.28 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: mages commonly beat locks in Hyjal nowadays |
| 20:22.33 | [Ammo] | Seeds + heroism = pwn |
| 20:22.34 | xyu | Locks may be better, but not 2x the dmg. |
| 20:22.40 | Arrowmaster | mages never beat me in hyjal |
| 20:22.42 | xyu | something is wrong there. |
| 20:22.48 | NeoTron | xyu: t5 gear, SoC + heroism |
| 20:23.00 | NeoTron | yes we did 50-100% more damage |
| 20:23.08 | Arrowmaster | i pulled off over 2000 dps for an entire hyjal raid |
| 20:23.32 | Arrowmaster | thats trash and bosses |
| 20:23.34 | [Ammo] | it's all epeen comparison |
| 20:23.40 | [Ammo] | end of the day guild kills boss or it doesn't |
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| 20:23.42 | xyu | I only get beat by 1 or 2 locks in hyjal |
| 20:23.42 | NeoTron | yeah and I've pulled > 2000 dps on a single mob ;-) |
| 20:23.59 | xyu | in my opinion is the range of their seed that is OP |
| 20:24.04 | xyu | what is it 20m ? |
| 20:24.09 | xyu | while ours is 15m |
| 20:24.10 | Arrowmaster | 15m? |
| 20:24.13 | NeoTron | I was doing 2100 dps on gorefiend last night but then I got the fricking cast speed debuff and had -10% cast speed for the last 20% :( |
| 20:24.13 | xyu | and our flamestrike is 10 |
| 20:24.14 | Bruners | are the number on the battleground the same for all in the battlegroup? |
| 20:24.15 | [Ammo] | 15 |
| 20:24.26 | [SW]Dodge | meh stupid grid... it shows DEAD for me but im alive O.o |
| 20:24.27 | xyu | no i'm pretty sure SoC is more than 15 |
| 20:24.29 | xyu | let me check. |
| 20:24.37 | xyu | i'm talking about radius of the explosion |
| 20:24.42 | Arrowmaster | atleast they fixed the fucking SoC corpse bug |
| 20:24.46 | [Ammo] | 15 |
| 20:24.49 | Arrowmaster | theres still a hard damage cap |
| 20:24.56 | Fisker- | IT IS OLD NEWS |
| 20:25.05 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: so in this particular raid (full hyjal + naj'entus/supremus) the top lock did 2040 DPS and the top mage (2nd dps) did 1979 avg dps |
| 20:25.06 | xyu | Arrowmaster: true, but crits aren't capped |
| 20:25.11 | Fisker- | been known like for atleast 1½ years now |
| 20:25.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah only way to max the damage from a single soc is crits and debuffs |
| 20:25.49 | NeoTron | on trash alone the mage did 2388 DPS and the lock did 2451 but less dmg overall |
| 20:26.06 | NeoTron | partially because that lock and myself tend to tank dragon riders in BT and stuf |
| 20:26.25 | [Liquidor] | This addon is rather nice (check .xml in case you wonder): http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7355-IllegalAddon.html |
| 20:26.47 | NeoTron | I guess my point is that although on KT locks were beating mages easily, that's not the case in Hyjal |
| 20:26.53 | xyu | trash is moot to stroke your epeen though. |
| 20:26.56 | NeoTron | and partially because we did so much more as locks was heroism |
| 20:26.59 | xyu | it's only bosses anyone should care about. |
| 20:27.04 | NeoTron | xyu: wrong |
| 20:27.17 | NeoTron | good trash dps = faster trash clear |
| 20:27.23 | NightHawkTheSane | xyu: as long as things die, and you dont wipe, none of it really matters ;) |
| 20:27.29 | xyu | i agree |
| 20:27.30 | NeoTron | we've had ppl that did ok on bosses but were mostly non-existant on trash dps |
| 20:27.37 | xyu | but trash isn't worth theorycrafting over |
| 20:27.40 | NeoTron | sure |
| 20:27.48 | NeoTron | I don't really care |
| 20:27.50 | xyu | it's "are you afk or not" |
| 20:27.51 | xyu | :P |
| 20:27.59 | NeoTron | just sayign why locks were better on kael'thas for us |
| 20:28.18 | xyu | locks are better for any fight anywhere :D |
| 20:28.20 | NeoTron | and heroism was the number one reason |
| 20:29.00 | NeoTron | top mage did 8.2M dmg on trash, top lock did 7.7M and I did 5.5M at 4th |
| 20:29.02 | Arrowmaster | i just watch the GCD bar in quartz anyway and recast when its up |
| 20:29.12 | NeoTron | the cost of being master looter and running round banishing crap in hyjal :P |
| 20:29.12 | Polarina | Fisker-: Drysc failed: "Well hopefully I'm still here tomorrow then, I didn't realize it wasn't common knowledge or at least discussed officially before." |
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| 20:29.23 | Fisker- | hahahah |
| 20:29.36 | Fisker- | halo 3 and assasins creed is on a goty list |
| 20:29.41 | Fisker- | how did he fail Polarina? :O |
| 20:29.46 | chiper | goty? |
| 20:29.51 | xyu | who do warlocks share loot w/ on T6? |
| 20:29.52 | Arrowmaster | assassins creed is fucking worth goty |
| 20:30.02 | Polarina | Fisker-: "Well hopefully I'm still here tomorrow then". Do you know what he means with that? |
| 20:30.20 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:30.25 | Josh_Borke | game of the year |
| 20:30.31 | NeoTron | Polarina: what info was leaked? |
| 20:30.37 | Arrowmaster | http://wowwebstats.com/51if51pjra5po?s=trash |
| 20:30.41 | Arrowmaster | fucking imba rogues |
| 20:31.00 | chiper | oh, right |
| 20:31.42 | NeoTron | ah the loot generation |
| 20:31.45 | chiper | one in 3 xbox 360 owners bought a copy of Halo 3, I think that qualifies for GOTY |
| 20:31.51 | Polarina | Fisker-: He though it was a common knowledge and discussed before and posted that information. "Well hopfully I'm still here tomorrow then" - If he gets fired, for example, he will not be there tomorrow. |
| 20:31.52 | NeoTron | who didn't know loot was generated by a random seed upon the creation of the mob? |
| 20:32.09 | Fisker- | why would he be fired for common knowledge? |
| 20:32.09 | Arrowmaster | i knew |
| 20:32.10 | xyu | er , what's w/ Nicodemas on Rage winterchill? |
| 20:32.18 | NeoTron | I'm pretty sure someone liek slouken or tigole posted that years ago |
| 20:32.20 | cyn | locks are best class imo |
| 20:32.22 | xyu | present 98%, time spent dps, 12% |
| 20:32.23 | cyn | :P |
| 20:32.23 | Arrowmaster | because of that old bug with the engineering sheild |
| 20:32.43 | Arrowmaster | and people not getting loot in mc because the boss took damage from the sheild first |
| 20:33.07 | Arrowmaster | xyu: he probably died |
| 20:33.14 | Polarina | Fisker-: He though it was, but it wasn't (That is, haven't been officialy disclosed to the public before) |
| 20:33.14 | xyu | here's ours. |
| 20:33.15 | xyu | http://wowwebstats.com/gc6mvqorphxhs?s=trash |
| 20:33.18 | chiper | it would also seem that quest drops are only created if someone with that quest is in the area at the time |
| 20:33.27 | xyu | locks pwnt us :( |
| 20:33.37 | Fisker- | well it might not |
| 20:33.45 | Arrowmaster | did you see benth on those trash stats |
| 20:33.46 | NeoTron | Polarina: I'm pretty darn sure there's been blue posts regarding "time seeded" loot |
| 20:33.46 | Fisker- | but it doesn't take rocket surgery to figure out |
| 20:33.50 | kenlyric | priest, mage, warrior, rogue, hunter pretty much covers all the various combat types I think... pally, druid, shammy, lock are just going to be derivative. |
| 20:33.50 | Arrowmaster | half the dps but same damage |
| 20:33.52 | NeoTron | maybe not with all that detail but really.. |
| 20:34.07 | Fisker- | he doesn't mean seeded loot |
| 20:34.13 | Polarina | NeoTron: It might be, it might not be. |
| 20:34.36 | NeoTron | what then? that loot is decided when the mob is created? or quest tiems existing but invisible? |
| 20:34.36 | Fisker- | but when loot is determined |
| 20:34.40 | Arrowmaster | whos lord kri? |
| 20:34.55 | xyu | Arrowmaster: our mage is named "Vem" |
| 20:34.57 | Fisker- | one of the bugs in aq |
| 20:34.57 | xyu | and it fucks everything up |
| 20:34.58 | NeoTron | one of the three bugs in the bug family in AQ40 |
| 20:34.59 | Arrowmaster | loot used to be decided when the boss was first taped |
| 20:35.02 | Polarina | NeoTron: When the loot is determided. |
| 20:35.07 | xyu | Vem is one of the Trio bugs in AQ40 |
| 20:35.12 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:35.13 | xyu | and since the mage has the same name |
| 20:35.13 | Arrowmaster | haha |
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| 20:35.17 | xyu | it messes w/ logs lol |
| 20:35.20 | Arrowmaster | thats great |
| 20:36.13 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: so I can't help to notice... that ppl did better dps on kaz'rogal than winterchill. how on earth is that possible/ :P |
| 20:36.17 | Fisker- | but it's really easy to determine |
| 20:36.23 | Polarina | Fisker-: Someone made a quote at Drysc reply: "Quick! Before they stop you! Upload source code now! We will guard the door! " |
| 20:36.29 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 20:36.34 | Arrowmaster | we fuck around on winterchill |
| 20:36.39 | Polarina | s/Drysc/Drysc's/ |
| 20:36.42 | Fisker- | the mobs in blasted lands is equipping the weapons they drop |
| 20:36.52 | xyu | isn't kaz'rogal a tank and spank all out dps race? |
| 20:37.03 | xyu | rage melee have to move a lot |
| 20:37.03 | Fisker- | been doing that since the beginning as far as i know |
| 20:37.09 | Arrowmaster | used to be our maintank never lived through winterchill, the healers always stoped healing at 5% |
| 20:37.16 | Arrowmaster | then he started sheildwalling |
| 20:37.22 | NeoTron | xyu: talking about magic Dps |
| 20:37.35 | NeoTron | kaz'rogal eats mana so either you need SR gear or you'll be life tapping more as a lock |
| 20:37.48 | [Ammo] | drain and tap :) |
| 20:37.56 | xyu | i never have mana probs as a mage. i dont' know about our locks |
| 20:38.05 | xyu | but our new mana gem is much love <3 |
| 20:38.06 | Arrowmaster | what spec? |
| 20:38.08 | [Ammo] | mages always get the SPs |
| 20:38.09 | Ellipsis-- | lol |
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| 20:38.12 | Ellipsis-- | locks mana problems? |
| 20:38.15 | NeoTron | xyu: depends on how fast he dies |
| 20:38.25 | NeoTron | Ellipsis--: you don't understand raiding locks no? |
| 20:38.26 | cyn | locks dotn have mana problems |
| 20:38.31 | NeoTron | locks obviously don't run OOM |
| 20:38.33 | Arrowmaster | got any good logs of arcane mages on akama? |
| 20:38.34 | cyn | are u kidding |
| 20:38.35 | Arrowmaster | thats imba |
| 20:38.40 | NeoTron | but life tapping is a major source of lack of DPS |
| 20:38.43 | NeoTron | loss of DPS rather |
| 20:38.53 | Ellipsis-- | NeoTron: I am a raiding lock. I understand them just fine. |
| 20:38.55 | xyu | i dont know many arcane mages anymore |
| 20:39.05 | Arrowmaster | we still have some |
| 20:39.06 | xyu | many -> any |
| 20:39.10 | cyn | use global CD to your advantage |
| 20:39.16 | NeoTron | then you know that life tapping causes loss of DPS and I don't understand your comment |
| 20:39.20 | cyn | when u cast a shadowbolt hit LT right after |
| 20:39.41 | xyu | we have people blowing each other up on purpose. :/ |
| 20:39.45 | xyu | this stupid ass pally always stands next to me |
| 20:39.48 | xyu | and goes oom |
| 20:39.51 | xyu | and then /laughs |
| 20:39.54 | NeoTron | cyn: clearly you're kidding me right? |
| 20:39.55 | Ellipsis-- | NeoTron: the discussion was about running out of mana towards the end of a long fight, not about a DPS race |
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| 20:39.59 | Ellipsis-- | unless I'm missing something? |
| 20:40.00 | NeoTron | lfie tapping = 1.5s lost cast time. always |
| 20:40.02 | cyn | a paly oom? |
| 20:40.07 | cyn | that isnt possible |
| 20:40.13 | xyu | i knows~!~ (he's prot) |
| 20:40.14 | xyu | and healing |
| 20:40.20 | NeoTron | Ellipsis--: I was talking about how locks had better dps on kaz'rogal than winterchill |
| 20:40.33 | NeoTron | when kaz'rogal clearly us morelife tap intensive and/or requries shadow resist gear |
| 20:40.38 | NeoTron | and thus should result in lower DPS |
| 20:40.38 | Zariel | is there any way of determining a new day other than date()? |
| 20:40.43 | Ozguli` | requires shadowpriests |
| 20:40.57 | Arrowmaster | here we go found it |
| 20:40.58 | xyu | NO! we as mages reserve all sp all the time |
| 20:40.58 | Arrowmaster | http://wowwebstats.com/eliji1q4zof3g?s=10341-10391 |
| 20:41.03 | Arrowmaster | arcane mage on akama |
| 20:41.16 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r59864 10/branches/mHud/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:41.16 | CIA-9 | mHud: |
| 20:41.16 | CIA-9 | - Added FrameLevel option to easily move bars on top of other graphics / unit frames |
| 20:41.16 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Always update DogTags manually (wouldn't update for my mana otherwise =/ ) |
| 20:41.18 | Ellipsis-- | also, cyn: l2lock |
| 20:41.33 | xyu | arcane would be pretty hot on akama :D |
| 20:41.39 | xyu | does he still bug? |
| 20:41.42 | xyu | we haven't had one in the last 3 weeks |
| 20:41.43 | cyn | lol |
| 20:41.47 | Arrowmaster | we havent seen him bug recently |
| 20:41.48 | NeoTron | xyu: haven't seen it |
| 20:42.05 | cyn | i never run out of mana |
| 20:42.09 | cyn | im in a SP group |
| 20:42.21 | cyn | on top of that i know how to use LT |
| 20:42.22 | Arrowmaster | he said he did nothing but spam arcane blast when akama came out |
| 20:42.26 | Arrowmaster | was imba |
| 20:42.28 | NeoTron | cyn: obviosuly you don't |
| 20:42.34 | cyn | ur mom doesnt |
| 20:42.38 | NeoTron | " when u cast a shadowbolt hit LT right after" |
| 20:42.43 | xyu | our warlocks get a shaman and a druid, no SP ^^ |
| 20:42.51 | NeoTron | as if that would in any way save you from the GCD of life tapping |
| 20:42.57 | cyn | not every shadow bolt |
| 20:43.01 | [SW]Dodge | al'ar dont likes us -.- |
| 20:43.07 | Arrowmaster | wow 69% crit rate on arcane blast |
| 20:43.43 | NeoTron | cyn: still your comment is plain wrong |
| 20:43.56 | xyu | some mage posted a 2500 dps teron gorefiend kill. he had like a 55% fireball crit rate, was insane ^^ |
| 20:44.05 | NeoTron | there is no "global cooldown advantage" there |
| 20:44.09 | Fisker- | i'm gonna kill you Polarina btw |
| 20:44.09 | cyn | there isnt |
| 20:44.22 | Polarina | Fisker-: Why? |
| 20:44.26 | NeoTron | the time you can life tap and not lose DPS is when you're moving anyway |
| 20:44.31 | Ellipsis-- | Fisker-: can I help? |
| 20:44.44 | Fisker- | sure |
| 20:44.49 | Fisker- | because i'm mean Polarina |
| 20:45.01 | sb | xyu: hmmm thats pretty nice :o |
| 20:45.02 | Fisker- | you must concede my superiority and so forth |
| 20:45.07 | Arrowmaster | lifetap during the shield on naj |
| 20:45.24 | Arrowmaster | healers will love you for that |
| 20:45.26 | vithos | lol. |
| 20:45.33 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I've been known do to that |
| 20:45.38 | Arrowmaster | me too |
| 20:45.40 | NeoTron | at least when I still used stamina gear/imp on the right |
| 20:45.47 | NeoTron | now I try to avoid it until after the shield hits |
| 20:45.50 | NeoTron | just to be nice |
| 20:45.53 | cyn | i neve said you can loose a GCD |
| 20:45.55 | durcyn | i do that all the time, it's not like i won't get five chain heals anyway |
| 20:45.56 | Polarina | Fisker-: You might not be generous, but it doesn't make you any more of an madman. |
| 20:46.20 | NeoTron | you said and I quote: " |
| 20:46.40 | NeoTron | "use global CD to your advantage" |
| 20:46.45 | cyn | exactly |
| 20:46.49 | NeoTron | and "LT after a SB" |
| 20:46.53 | NeoTron | that is no "advantage" |
| 20:46.57 | cyn | where does it say i shorted the number of GCD |
| 20:47.00 | Ellipsis-- | you can't use GCD to your advantage |
| 20:47.14 | Ellipsis-- | if you're in GCD you can't do anything useful |
| 20:47.15 | NeoTron | you implied there was a better way to life tap. there isn't |
| 20:47.19 | durcyn | eh? lifetapping after a shadowbolt just delays your next one by gcd + lag, chain casting until low on mana is the way to go |
| 20:48.14 | NeoTron | durcyn: if it's a fight where you know you will move - wait to LF until moving if you can. if it's a fight like gorefiend it really doesn't matter when you LT as long as you don't end combat with full mana.. |
| 20:48.38 | Chompers | for about 11 seconds i had a legendary item equipped |
| 20:48.40 | NeoTron | Q: What is the best potion for a warlock wanting to increase his DPS in a stand-and-nuke fight? |
| 20:48.41 | Chompers | awesome |
| 20:48.52 | cyn | neo yes i understand that |
| 20:48.56 | Ellipsis-- | uh... |
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| 20:49.09 | xyu | destro? |
| 20:49.11 | NeoTron | cyn: then exactly what did you mean? |
| 20:49.12 | Ellipsis-- | if you're gonna be using pots, mana is better for dps |
| 20:49.13 | xyu | i'm no warlock :) |
| 20:49.24 | NeoTron | yep, ellipsis is correct |
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| 20:49.29 | NeoTron | chug those mana pots |
| 20:49.35 | xyu | i use destruction potions if mana isn't an issue. |
| 20:49.44 | NeoTron | GCD-free and more return, up to 2x in some cases, than life tap |
| 20:50.15 | NeoTron | I still wonder if destruction pots don't beat mana pots if used during heroism though |
| 20:50.16 | xyu | i need to format my computer but i dont' feel like it :/ |
| 20:50.42 | NeoTron | it amplifies the benefit from it quite significantly |
| 20:50.56 | kindofabuzz | anyone know how to make Cowtip backgrounds work? forums didn't help |
| 20:51.07 | Ellipsis-- | kindofabuzz: what's wrong with them? |
| 20:51.08 | xyu | heh i did a pug mag on my alliance mage the other day. and i got a buff called "Heroism" |
| 20:51.12 | xyu | and i was like WTF is this ??!?! |
| 20:51.19 | kindofabuzz | black |
| 20:51.19 | cyn | basically i meant it in combination with /stopcast and quartz and know that when you cast a shadowbolt it has a 2.5 sec cast once the shadowbolts gcd is down and yoiu hit the server alg part of the cast use a instant cast(LT CoA SL) |
| 20:51.20 | xyu | took me a while to realize :P |
| 20:51.40 | cyn | what this does is uses the GCD and the server lag to your advantage |
| 20:51.47 | cyn | if you cast LT LT LT LT |
| 20:51.52 | Ellipsis-- | cyn: but you can start casting the next SB at the same time |
| 20:51.56 | Ellipsis-- | so you're not saving anything |
| 20:51.59 | cyn | you cant use the stopcast/gcd to your advantage |
| 20:52.01 | NeoTron | cyn there is no advantage to that |
| 20:52.13 | cyn | there is cause the GCD is affected by lag aswell |
| 20:52.22 | NeoTron | specifically because blizzard fixed the issue on latency on castingg |
| 20:52.23 | Ellipsis-- | well you should never spam LT, for many reasons |
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| 20:52.31 | cyn | ell yes i agree |
| 20:52.51 | Ellipsis-- | and yes, the cast lag fix doesn't benefit anyone spamming casts of 1.5s or less |
| 20:52.57 | cyn | did that change in the past 8 months |
| 20:53.01 | NeoTron | i.e now you can cast your next shadow bolt before the one you're casting finished in y our client |
| 20:53.03 | cyn | i jsut started back up again |
| 20:53.05 | Ellipsis-- | which is why scorch mages are at a disadvantage |
| 20:53.15 | kindofabuzz | all i get is a black background in Cowtip, unless i have it on solid |
| 20:53.17 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59865 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - add comparison operators and documentation |
| 20:53.39 | NeoTron | you don't need /stopcasting - just chain the LT cast after the SB |
| 20:53.57 | Ellipsis-- | kindofabuzz: you mean background textures aren't working? |
| 20:53.58 | NeoTron | but there's no "gdc advantage" in that, just normal latency reduction |
| 20:54.04 | kindofabuzz | yeah |
| 20:54.05 | cyn | well back in the day you could cast a instant cast after a 1.5+ cast and gain dps |
| 20:54.11 | Ellipsis-- | does the texture work in other addons? |
| 20:54.29 | NeoTron | and my latency is around 50ms anyway so it isn't exactly noticeable on a 1500 ms GCD |
| 20:54.35 | Ellipsis-- | uh, not really cyn |
| 20:54.42 | Ellipsis-- | gain compared to casting instant after instant |
| 20:54.54 | NeoTron | you could use /stopcasting to gain casts |
| 20:54.56 | Ellipsis-- | but if you used /stopcasting it would be no different than chaining cast times |
| 20:55.04 | kindofabuzz | i don't know, don't really have anything that uses textures. i figured the Moo texture that came with it would at least work |
| 20:55.04 | cyn | instant after instant used to hurt dps |
| 20:55.27 | Ellipsis-- | yes |
| 20:55.29 | Ellipsis-- | it still does |
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| 20:55.43 | NeoTron | are you sure? |
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| 20:55.55 | Ellipsis-- | yes, because you can't /stopcast a client-side GCD |
| 20:55.58 | NeoTron | no |
| 20:56.04 | NeoTron | but they added a sort of chaining |
| 20:56.11 | NeoTron | are you sure that doesn't affect this as well? |
| 20:56.21 | Ellipsis-- | what do you mean added a sort of chaining? |
| 20:56.31 | NeoTron | you can "queue up" a cast |
| 20:56.42 | Ellipsis-- | since when? |
| 20:56.45 | NeoTron | i.e 200ms before my SB finished, I hit SB again and the server will get and process it |
| 20:56.49 | NeoTron | since err 2.2? 2.3? |
| 20:56.51 | Ellipsis-- | that's different |
| 20:56.55 | Ellipsis-- | that's outside of GCD |
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| 20:57.13 | NeoTron | wht I'm asking, and don't know, is if you're sure this doesn't also work within the gcd |
| 20:57.16 | Ellipsis-- | like I said, spells with 1.5s cast time or less (including instants like LT) are still nerfed by lag |
| 20:57.20 | Ellipsis-- | yes |
| 20:57.24 | Ellipsis-- | I'm 100% sure :) |
| 20:57.31 | charon | NeoTron: you can't queue. the server will just process the SB since at the time it arrives at the server, you've already finished casting the last one in its view |
| 20:57.44 | NeoTron | charon: I know it's not really a queue |
| 20:57.48 | Ellipsis-- | kindofabuzz: I don't know what the problem is, sorry |
| 20:57.49 | charon | :) |
| 20:57.52 | NeoTron | but it defeats the purpose of a /stopcasting macro |
| 20:57.59 | NeoTron | they SHOULD add a queue |
| 20:58.07 | NeoTron | would make it entirely free of latency concerns |
| 20:58.25 | Ellipsis-- | I like it better this way than with a queue |
| 20:58.43 | Ellipsis-- | because this way I can change my mind at the last instant and I'm not stuck casting a different spell |
| 20:58.56 | NeoTron | ah but a queue would be the same |
| 20:58.57 | Ellipsis-- | they just need to remove the client-side GCD restriction |
| 20:58.58 | NeoTron | or a "next spell |
| 20:59.06 | NeoTron | i.e I press SB and it's queued |
| 20:59.14 | NeoTron | I then press Searing Pain and it replaces the SB |
| 20:59.19 | NeoTron | so not so much a queue as next spell |
| 20:59.25 | Ozguli` | I can imagine melee classes |
| 20:59.29 | sb | stop typing 'sb' :/ |
| 20:59.36 | Ellipsis-- | how is that different in practice from the new system? |
| 21:00.50 | cyn | if you cast Instant(GCD+GCD lag) it used to be this way 8months ago |
| 21:00.56 | cyn | so it might have changed |
| 21:01.22 | cyn | but before it was better to time your LT/DP after a casted spell |
| 21:02.06 | Ellipsis-- | yes, chaining instants is bad and always has been |
| 21:02.51 | NeoTron | Ellipsis--: it's differnet because the sefver will cast the spell you picked as soon as it knows you're ready |
| 21:03.00 | NeoTron | given of course it got the command in time |
| 21:03.07 | Ellipsis-- | NeoTron: it will either way though |
| 21:03.10 | cyn | that why i said abotu usign GCD to your advantage |
| 21:03.14 | Ellipsis-- | it's just a question of server-side implementation |
| 21:03.22 | Kivin | anyone know if the 'char' database in Rock distinguishes between two chars with the same name (on two realms) |
| 21:03.30 | Ellipsis-- | cyn: that's not using GCD to your advantage, that's avoiding lag penalties |
| 21:03.41 | cyn | whcih affect GCD |
| 21:03.50 | Kivin | Or if there's a database kind that specifically works like "Kivin - Cenarion circle" |
| 21:04.20 | NeoTron | Ellipsis--: today the client stops the command, in case of GCD-based stuff, from eaching the server in time |
| 21:04.59 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59866 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - some tweaks to the cast text |
| 21:05.02 | Ellipsis-- | NeoTron: that's only GCD thoguh |
| 21:05.08 | Ellipsis-- | you were talking about bolts |
| 21:05.21 | NeoTron | cyn: summary of lock tap rules: 1) Tap whem moving if possible (avoid penalty), 2) IF no moves are needed or you ned mana now, always tap right after a >1.5s cast spell |
| 21:05.39 | NeoTron | Ellipsis--: today chaining shadow bolts does avoid lanency for the most part |
| 21:05.47 | NeoTron | so ti wouldn't noticebly improve it |
| 21:05.54 | Ellipsis-- | right |
| 21:06.01 | NeoTron | except removing the need to somewhat well time the casting towards the end of the bar |
| 21:06.06 | Ellipsis-- | it's not that queueing "wouldn't noticeably improve it" |
| 21:06.07 | NeoTron | (or spamming the key) |
| 21:06.11 | Ellipsis-- | it's *functionally equivalent* |
| 21:06.15 | NeoTron | it isn't |
| 21:06.36 | NeoTron | queue means I cast the SB and then immediately press SB again |
| 21:06.45 | NeoTron | and then keep pressing SB at the start of the cast, not the end of it |
| 21:07.05 | NeoTron | current system doesn't let you hit SB twice and get two bolts |
| 21:07.23 | sb | i hate you :p |
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| 21:07.36 | NeoTron | sb: lol |
| 21:07.41 | NeoTron | beep'a'lot? |
| 21:07.42 | Ellipsis-- | lol |
| 21:07.50 | Ellipsis-- | sb, get a real nick ;P |
| 21:08.11 | cyn | neo i knwo that stuff |
| 21:08.12 | Ellipsis-- | NeoTron: true, but if you spam like most people it's no different |
| 21:08.38 | cyn | the advantage comment was more along the lines fo making sure you were castiing instants after a 1.5+ spell |
| 21:09.10 | NeoTron | Ellipsis--: I prefer not to |
| 21:09.23 | Ellipsis-- | well then you gain something |
| 21:09.24 | Ellipsis-- | :P |
| 21:09.29 | NeoTron | I time it instead |
| 21:09.32 | Ellipsis-- | tv, bbs |
| 21:09.38 | NeoTron | using quartz and such |
| 21:09.42 | cyn | yep |
| 21:10.43 | cyn | but that was nice how you all were makign me out to be some tard who was sayign you can remove a GCD |
| 21:10.46 | Pkekyo| | HAI2UPEOPLES |
| 21:11.26 | sb | hai2yourmom! |
| 21:11.42 | Pkekyo| | you can speak with dead people? O.o |
| 21:13.22 | buu | Hey guys. |
| 21:13.25 | buu | I need an addon. |
| 21:13.27 | buu | STAT. |
| 21:13.31 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc |
| 21:13.38 | Pkekyo| | buu: files.wowace.com? |
| 21:13.43 | Fisker- | would you know why we keep having a tank that can't be seen on omen? |
| 21:14.02 | buu | Pkekyo|: Too easy. |
| 21:14.07 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: he doesn't have omen? |
| 21:14.15 | Pkekyo| | buu: "Det enkle er ofte det beste." |
| 21:14.22 | Matrix110 | vhaarr do you plan on actively developing NRT? |
| 21:14.34 | buu | Pkekyo|: What in the what? |
| 21:14.40 | buu | Pkekyo|: My mother is a saint! |
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| 21:14.59 | cyn | 2) IF no moves are needed or you ned mana now, always tap right after a >1.5s cast spell = using GCD to your advantage |
| 21:15.00 | Fisker- | he does Pkekyo| |
| 21:15.03 | Fisker- | and he has the newest |
| 21:15.22 | Pkekyo| | buu: has nothing to do with your mother...well, maybe, but not directly |
| 21:15.35 | buu | Anyway. I'm wondering if anyone knows of an addon that does timer bars for things like dot ticks and various friendly and enemy cooldowns, but the bars behave like BigWig bars. |
| 21:15.36 | Fisker- | your mother buu |
| 21:15.44 | buu | FISKER MEET ME IN THE GAME. |
| 21:15.45 | cyn | classtimer |
| 21:15.48 | Fisker- | ok |
| 21:15.53 | buu | cyn: They behave likg bigwigs? |
| 21:16.11 | buu | cyn: Also, how does tapping after a 1.5s cast use the GCD to your advantage? |
| 21:17.06 | cyn | nm |
| 21:17.22 | NeoTron | cyn: no it's more like 'reducing the penalty from latency' |
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| 21:17.30 | cyn | exactly |
| 21:17.37 | cyn | which is an advantage |
| 21:17.55 | cyn | using stopcastign is using lag to your advantage |
| 21:17.56 | NeoTron | not saying it isn't, just stating the wording was incorrect |
| 21:18.07 | NeoTron | since you in fact do not use GCD to your advantage |
| 21:18.19 | buu | How hard would it be to modify an existing timer mod to use bw bars? |
| 21:19.49 | cyn | neo i jsut have a different association with "to your advantage mean" that all |
| 21:20.07 | cyn | neo i just have a different association with "to your advantage" means that all |
| 21:20.27 | cyn | L2Type cyn!!! |
| 21:24.11 | Megalon | l2useyourtyping2youradvantage cyn! |
| 21:24.47 | cyn | OH BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:24.50 | cyn | :P |
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| 21:25.39 | NeoTron | cyn: lathough |
| 21:25.44 | NeoTron | you alwys hit the latency penalty |
| 21:26.11 | Hjalte | Antiarc: The other day, on some random boss, Parrot told me my soulshatter had been resisted but my threat still got halved in Omen. Do you know any problems regarding that? |
| 21:26.17 | buu | Actually, geeze |
| 21:26.26 | buu | Are there any useful enemy cooldown trackers t all? |
| 21:26.53 | cyn | you do but you can minimize it |
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| 21:27.02 | cyn | and it rewards you with more dps |
| 21:27.03 | Antiarc | Hjalte: Yeah, that can happen if there's enough lag. Omen waits a certain period of time after you soulshatter before "committing" the halving. |
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| 21:27.14 | Antiarc | If the time passes and there has been no resist detected due to lag, then it commits |
| 21:27.45 | cyn | so 2.4 is gogin to fuck up a ton of mods right |
| 21:27.51 | cyn | or is that untrue? |
| 21:27.52 | Antiarc | An unfortunate problem, but since they're no positive confirmation of a soulshatter landing, all I can do is look for the absence of a soulshatter NOT landing. |
| 21:28.02 | Antiarc | 2.4 is going to break anything that uses the combat log, at the least. |
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| 21:28.09 | NeoTron | 1) LT after SB: 0.0 => SB, 2.5 => LT, 4.1 => SB, 6.6 => LT, 8.2 => SB |
| 21:28.09 | NeoTron | 2) LT in a row: 0.0 => SB, 2.5 => LT, 4.1 => LT, 5.7 => SB, 8.2 => SB |
| 21:28.12 | charon | Antiarc: why not halve it right away, then double once it's resisted? |
| 21:28.13 | Matrix110 | 2.4 is going to be fun :D |
| 21:28.21 | NeoTron | regardless of LT order, you'll always spend 1.6 second per life tap |
| 21:28.38 | kenlyric | Matrix110: oh, do you mean the PTR that will extend into fall? |
| 21:28.39 | NeoTron | assuming zero lag when "chaining" after a 2.5s cast |
| 21:28.44 | Antiarc | charon: If it resists on multiple named mobs, you'd end up multiplying your threat several times. |
| 21:29.00 | charon | oh, right. |
| 21:29.09 | Antiarc | 5 mobs, SS resists on 3, you halve, then double 3x, resulting in 400% threat |
| 21:29.24 | Matrix110 | kenlyric no but i just want 2.4 :P |
| 21:29.56 | FtH|Daemona | hmmm anyone can tell me if its possible to have /focus trigger by a mod? e.g. gets magic debuff /focus someplayer? though i'd assume that would be some decursive like behaviour with auto-targetting -> blocked by blizz ? |
| 21:30.13 | Paene | it'll be nice that with 2.4 you can actually track same name mobs individually |
| 21:30.20 | Antiarc | Correct, FtH|Daemona |
| 21:30.36 | Antiarc | You can't set a target/focus/whatever without hardware input |
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| 21:30.51 | Antiarc | And you can't pass the parameter to set your focus programatically in combat, IIRC |
| 21:30.53 | cyn | neo whats ur dot cast order? |
| 21:30.58 | cyn | or are u destro |
| 21:31.04 | FtH|Daemona | k, was something to shoot at :) |
| 21:31.18 | NeoTron | it's not HOW you cast an instant/1.5s spell that matters. is the act of casting it itself that does |
| 21:32.00 | NeoTron | so it's perfectly fine to chain LT's to max mana if you will need the mana in the fight. there's no reason to mix in shadow bolts |
| 21:32.03 | NeoTron | and I'm destro |
| 21:32.13 | Paene | Antiarc: In 2.4 you should be able to half the threat then multiply by 2 for resists, since you'll know what mob resisted and what didn't. |
| 21:32.23 | Antiarc | If we get the info I want, yeah. |
| 21:32.32 | cyn | i need to regem |
| 21:32.36 | Paene | pretty sure we will |
| 21:32.37 | Antiarc | 2.4 should hopefully clean up a lot of the little hacks in Threat |
| 21:33.00 | cyn | im at 228 hit |
| 21:33.10 | NeoTron | locks should have a 5s channeled life tap spell |
| 21:33.12 | cyn | what a waster |
| 21:33.15 | Paene | yeah, Blizz has to have some way of detecting it themselves if they want to include their own threat meter in-game |
| 21:33.16 | NeoTron | would be more efficient :P |
| 21:33.31 | cyn | new gear is so expensive |
| 21:33.40 | Ellipsis-- | NeoTron: yes, I'm sure healers would LOVE that |
| 21:33.45 | NeoTron | Ellipsis--: likely |
| 21:33.52 | cyn | means hit veiled have to turn into runed or crit/dmg gems |
| 21:34.06 | NeoTron | speaking of witch |
| 21:34.09 | NeoTron | err. which |
| 21:34.13 | Antiarc | Paene: Blizz has access to mob IDs server side, and can just sent your threat level from the server to your client |
| 21:34.14 | cyn | i want to go desrto |
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| 21:34.20 | Antiarc | They don't have to calculate it client-side like we do |
| 21:34.22 | cyn | but i need wintechill offhand |
| 21:34.27 | NeoTron | based on shadowseer data it seems crit > dmg point for point for a dest lock |
| 21:34.43 | Antiarc | They know "Player X has Y threat on mob Z's threat table" and can send that to the player's client without any need for further computation |
| 21:34.54 | NeoTron | I still don't know though if 10 crit > 12 dmg |
| 21:35.00 | cyn | 400k crit doom on netherspite i cant wait |
| 21:35.03 | Fisker- | does dotimer fuck up omen/threat? |
| 21:35.06 | Paene | Antiarc: ooo true, but I was looking at the new combat log API in 2.4...you can obtain GUID from the combat log event. If I'm not mistake, GUID's are unique to each mob. |
| 21:35.11 | cyn | do timer sux |
| 21:35.15 | Antiarc | Fisker-: USed to, but the comms code was pulled out a long time ago |
| 21:35.15 | NeoTron | 10 crit would benefit the raid more |
| 21:35.16 | cyn | classtimers |
| 21:35.21 | Fisker- | ok |
| 21:35.34 | Antiarc | If people are running an old version of DoTimer it will cut off all addon traffic that uses ChatThrottleLib though |
| 21:35.36 | Fisker- | so the newest version doesn't do comm? |
| 21:35.42 | Antiarc | Don't think so. |
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| 21:36.18 | Elsia | heya |
| 21:36.22 | Antiarc | Paene: We don't know for sure what level of granularity we'll get per mob yet. All we know is a GUID per mob type (which is still good), but I'm hoping we'll get it per-mob |
| 21:36.27 | Antiarc | That would make my life so much easier |
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| 21:36.38 | Antiarc | And it would make converting Threat to true multi-target a -breeze- |
| 21:36.42 | Paene | it would make a lot of people's lives easier |
| 21:36.50 | Paene | dot timers |
| 21:36.57 | Paene | would be able to track things much easier |
| 21:37.24 | cyn | negitive res needs to comeback fro locks IMO |
| 21:38.59 | ggilbert | Negative resistance coming back would probably also mean the damage bonus for CoE and CoS would go away. I wonder if it'd be a buff or nerf overall. |
| 21:39.15 | Antiarc | If you get negative resistance, I want bonuses from negative armory values |
| 21:39.40 | xyu | negative agility :) |
| 21:39.49 | Antiarc | Since my full armor pen gear + executioner + WSC proc + XA would be something on the order of -3000 AC on cloth, which would be something like +30% damage |
| 21:40.09 | ggilbert | go back in your closet Antiarc. No cookie for you. |
| 21:40.25 | FtH|Daemona | 3k dps on RoS p1 easily antiarc ;) |
| 21:40.33 | Antiarc | Hehehe |
| 21:40.39 | Antiarc | Teron would be fun too |
| 21:40.54 | FtH|Daemona | teron has become a 2nd patchwork for me ... |
| 21:41.10 | Antiarc | Teron's a great benchmarking fight as long as youdon't get ghosted |
| 21:41.12 | FtH|Daemona | i am bored as hell of teron ... |
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| 21:41.54 | ggilbert | I don't think I've ever gotten to do the ghost thing yet. |
| 21:41.58 | NeoTron | I'm still pissed I didn't break 2.1k dps on teron.. or even 2k |
| 21:42.02 | NeoTron | stupid debuff |
| 21:42.23 | FtH|Daemona | at least we went RoS, Gurtogg, Mother, Council Illidan in 100minutes today and completed a 3rd pair of glaives... i am so bored of t6 raiding on my rogue :( |
| 21:42.28 | NeoTron | 10% spell cast reduction for 20% of his health ftl |
| 21:42.44 | NeoTron | FtH|Daemona: have yet to see any glaives. :( |
| 21:42.56 | NeoTron | how long have you been farming illidan? |
| 21:43.00 | FtH|Daemona | wanna see a glaive? ^^ http://www.koaschten.de/wow/6_glaives_for_a_halleluja.jpg there pick one of the 7 ;) |
| 21:43.24 | FtH|Daemona | FtH -> For the Horde, world 5th Illidan kill. ... 7 month farm? dunno... about that |
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| 21:43.59 | FtH|Daemona | since June 29th ... |
| 21:44.06 | NeoTron | ah |
| 21:44.07 | FtH|Daemona | according to bosskillers.com |
| 21:44.11 | NeoTron | yeah so that's a bit longer :P |
| 21:44.25 | NeoTron | farming illidan with alts by now? :P |
| 21:44.38 | NeoTron | we have 6 illidan kills so far |
| 21:44.42 | FtH|Daemona | Zul'aman was fun the first 2-3 times ... on the PTR |
| 21:44.51 | FtH|Daemona | so that didnt last long either |
| 21:44.58 | xyu | It's only fun if you go for the timer |
| 21:45.02 | xyu | and that gets old too |
| 21:45.12 | xyu | but i've always been a fan of "speed runs" |
| 21:45.13 | xyu | no matter what |
| 21:45.15 | xyu | speed kara |
| 21:45.16 | xyu | speed MC |
| 21:45.16 | FtH|Daemona | xyu with mains we havent missed the timer ones on live realms |
| 21:45.18 | Matrix110 | how do i strip a string by a specific other string? |
| 21:45.29 | xyu | Daemona: w/ how much time to spare |
| 21:45.31 | xyu | do you remember? |
| 21:45.33 | FtH|Daemona | our alt runs regularly manage 3 chests |
| 21:45.35 | NeoTron | never hit the timer yet. /sigh |
| 21:45.36 | FtH|Daemona | its BORING |
| 21:45.41 | FtH|Daemona | 2-4 minutes |
| 21:45.51 | xyu | Do you go eagle first, or bear, and through the waterfall |
| 21:45.52 | NeoTron | usually always have a person or two that does something retarded |
| 21:45.57 | NeoTron | ofc we don't have your gear level yet |
| 21:46.05 | FtH|Daemona | eagle bear dragonhawk lynx |
| 21:46.15 | xyu | yeah that's the way we do it |
| 21:46.26 | xyu | i heard some people do bear , eagle, and take a path up along that waterfall ledge |
| 21:46.45 | FtH|Daemona | usually we run sick combo's though ... warrior, feral, enhance, 2 rogues, pala, |
| 21:46.58 | FtH|Daemona | priest, shadow priest warlock mage |
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| 21:47.11 | xyu | soudns about what ours is |
| 21:47.38 | xyu | i think we do pally tank instead of warrior tho, sometimes we do war |
| 21:47.43 | xyu | MT is still trying to get that ring |
| 21:47.45 | xyu | out of 3rd chest |
| 21:47.49 | xyu | always the melee one |
| 21:48.12 | FtH|Daemona | was great... till last maintainance reset. .. cant subin ppl anymore... |
| 21:48.20 | FtH|Daemona | for chest loot |
| 21:48.21 | xyu | really? |
| 21:48.22 | xyu | noo |
| 21:48.31 | xyu | that was the staple of me going |
| 21:48.32 | NeoTron | seriously though, don't need any of the loot so it's just a bear mount |
| 21:48.45 | NeoTron | and although it's cool.. I prefer not using an inventory slot unless i need to :P |
| 21:48.47 | FtH|Daemona | NeoTron what class are you playing? |
| 21:49.01 | NeoTron | lock |
| 21:49.04 | NeoTron | alt is pally |
| 21:49.19 | cyn | the mount looks sick |
| 21:49.21 | FtH|Daemona | well the trinket from malacrass should be an upgrade for you |
| 21:49.31 | cyn | hood of hexing |
| 21:49.32 | NeoTron | it is an upgrade |
| 21:49.49 | NeoTron | but I have the darkmoon card and next in line for skull of guldan |
| 21:50.04 | NeoTron | and the hex lord trinket is only marginally better than the darkmoon card |
| 21:50.24 | cyn | that crusader buff is so OP |
| 21:50.28 | xyu | darkmoon is easy to fall off though |
| 21:50.29 | NeoTron | theory-crafting wise it's equivalent of 88 dmg i think while darkmoon card obviously is 80 |
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| 21:50.46 | NeoTron | yeah but it's easy not to use the "Use:" effect right on cooldown |
| 21:50.49 | cyn | neo |
| 21:50.59 | cyn | whats better mag trinket or silver cresent |
| 21:51.05 | NeoTron | or if you macro it, it's easy to waste it at times where you're OO)M, get stunned, need to move etc |
| 21:51.11 | NeoTron | sec |
| 21:51.32 | NeoTron | http://wiki.shadowpriest.com/index.php?title=SimulationCraft/Trinkets/Warlock |
| 21:51.35 | cyn | and do anyof u have the xls doc fro locks |
| 21:51.38 | xyu | I only need mana attuned band , since it never drops for me :/ |
| 21:51.42 | xyu | then i'm done w/ ZG foreva!@~!!1 |
| 21:51.44 | xyu | er ZA |
| 21:51.48 | xyu | same thing |
| 21:51.49 | NeoTron | spreadsheet: http://www.leulier.com/ |
| 21:52.06 | FtH|Daemona | http://www.koaschten.de/wow/BearWithMe.jpg |
| 21:52.07 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 21:52.14 | NeoTron | xyu: heh. I got the BT haste ring and just got the exalted hyjal ring. no longer want the mana attuned band |
| 21:52.25 | cyn | u think it is better to have 16% hit |
| 21:52.30 | cyn | or 14% |
| 21:52.32 | NeoTron | always better to max hit |
| 21:52.32 | xyu | mana attuned > than hyjal |
| 21:52.34 | xyu | for mages at least |
| 21:53.01 | NeoTron | xyu: only if you need the spell hit |
| 21:53.06 | NeoTron | which I don't |
| 21:53.22 | NeoTron | in fact I have an issue I will run into which is how to get less spell hit |
| 21:53.28 | NeoTron | I have yet to get any T6 gear at all |
| 21:53.30 | xyu | in my "ultimate" min/max set i think i have mana attuned equiped |
| 21:53.33 | xyu | so i need it !! ^^ |
| 21:53.34 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r59867 10Skinner/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:53.34 | CIA-9 | Skinner: Reverted changes to self.db.profile |
| 21:53.34 | CIA-9 | - Updated OptionHouse to handle HousingAuthority configs |
| 21:53.34 | CIA-9 | - Commented out Debug messages from several skins |
| 21:53.36 | NeoTron | I mean t6 as in the 5 piece armor set |
| 21:53.48 | Ellipsis-- | you suck NeoTron :< |
| 21:54.04 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai |
| 21:54.14 | NeoTron | I have a lot of tier 6 level gear.. |
| 21:54.33 | NeoTron | but I've been saving DKP to get the trinket of illidan |
| 21:54.49 | NeoTron | I also have haste belt of supremus, haste boots/shoulders/pants from ZA/badges |
| 21:54.50 | xyu | we're stuck on gurtog for some odd reason. and it's annoying, such a easy boss to be stuck on :/ |
| 21:54.54 | xyu | we're a rather casual raiding guild tho. |
| 21:55.01 | xyu | people don't take it as serious as i'd like >< |
| 21:55.08 | NeoTron | bloodboil is the first truly challenging fight in BT I think |
| 21:55.12 | kenlyric | you have funny definition of casual |
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| 21:55.26 | xyu | well we only raid 3 times a week ^^ |
| 21:55.34 | xyu | that leaves 1 night for hyjal and 2 for BT |
| 21:55.35 | kenlyric | I guess "casual by EJ standards" is an OK definition. |
| 21:55.42 | NeoTron | "xyi: but we raid 12 hours per night!" |
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| 21:55.44 | FtH|Daemona | hrhr |
| 21:55.57 | FtH|Daemona | dunno whats so hard about gurtogg |
| 21:56.02 | xyu | me either |
| 21:56.09 | NeoTron | FtH|Daemona: my issue is that when I get the trinket and the t6 gear... I'll have way too much hit |
| 21:56.17 | xyu | we have people dying to that stupid poison blast when he picks a Fel Rage target. |
| 21:56.18 | NeoTron | so I really need the staff of illidan for my ultimate set |
| 21:56.34 | xyu | and we can't keep the tanks alive while squishies are in Fel Rage |
| 21:56.41 | xyu | (the "real" tanks) |
| 21:56.47 | NeoTron | FtH|Daemona: bc it needs tank coordination, good healing, and 15 people that can move when they must |
| 21:56.49 | FtH|Daemona | if you have 2 capable tanks, the healer know how to switch target for healing or assist heal gurtogg then the only chance to fail is your 2 groups of ranged dd and heal that have to move# |
| 21:57.01 | FtH|Daemona | wrong neotrin |
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| 21:57.06 | CIA-9 | BlessingBar: |
| 21:57.06 | CIA-9 | - Improved even further upon counting items. GetItemCount() ... Go figure I over looked that one! Improved upon the OnUpdate handler via removing unneeded checks. |
| 21:57.06 | CIA-9 | 03xbeeps * r59869 10/branches/LibHealComm-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:57.06 | CIA-9 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 21:57.07 | FtH|Daemona | it takes 10 ppl to moove |
| 21:57.07 | CIA-9 | - Internal restructuring to better handle upgrading. |
| 21:57.11 | CIA-9 | - Simplification of spellbook scanner (don't determine mana). |
| 21:57.13 | CIA-9 | - Use own scanning tooltip instead of LibGratuity-3.0, and removed the lib from the embeds. |
| 21:57.15 | CIA-9 | - Removed a possible source of errors in buff/debuff scanning. |
| 21:57.17 | CIA-9 | - Upgraded to newest CallbackHandler-1.0 (still don't get why this can't be an external like any other library - this is just annoying - *shrug*) |
| 21:57.20 | NeoTron | FtH|Daemona: we use 3 groups |
| 21:57.23 | xyu | FtH|Daemona: do you spread out just before phase 2? |
| 21:57.28 | xyu | or do you like have groups |
| 21:57.29 | FtH|Daemona | no :) |
| 21:57.37 | FtH|Daemona | we have 2 ranged groups that move |
| 21:57.43 | xyu | well you're obviously over geared. but when you learned. |
| 21:57.44 | FtH|Daemona | a healer group that doesnt move at all |
| 21:57.46 | FtH|Daemona | and the melees |
| 21:57.49 | NeoTron | FtH|Daemona: so basically ppl get 2 stacks? |
| 21:57.53 | FtH|Daemona | we never changed the tactics |
| 21:57.54 | NeoTron | btu 1 less group to worry about |
| 21:58.09 | FtH|Daemona | no we run 3 groups, but only 2 move ,) |
| 21:58.13 | NeoTron | oh |
| 21:58.16 | NeoTron | I see |
| 21:58.25 | NeoTron | so basically the middle group stands back all the time |
| 21:58.30 | xyu | why is that? |
| 21:58.31 | NeoTron | and the side groups move back/forth |
| 21:58.34 | FtH|Daemona | so you don't run into the problem that healers have to move when they should heal |
| 21:58.34 | xyu | more dps time? |
| 21:58.40 | NeoTron | xyu: more heal time.. |
| 21:58.41 | xyu | ah |
| 21:58.45 | xyu | it's the healer group that doesn't move |
| 21:58.48 | xyu | that's a good idea |
| 21:58.52 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 21:58.59 | NeoTron | I assume you have a line with <dps> <heal> <dps> |
| 21:58.59 | xyu | i'll have to toss that out today |
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| 21:59.01 | CIA-9 | CurseBar: |
| 21:59.01 | CIA-9 | - Improved upon the OnUpdate handler via removing unneeded checks. |
| 21:59.08 | NeoTron | and other side have bloodboil opposite of the <heal> group |
| 21:59.09 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59871 10SealBar/ (SealBar.lua SealBar.toc): |
| 21:59.09 | CIA-9 | SealBar: |
| 21:59.09 | CIA-9 | - Improved upon the OnUpdate handler via removing unneeded checks. |
| 21:59.13 | FtH|Daemona | no we are rather having something ike |
| 21:59.17 | kneeki | lol lag much? |
| 21:59.25 | FtH|Daemona | <dps> <gurtogg> dps |
| 21:59.34 | FtH|Daemona | --- < melee dps > --- |
| 21:59.39 | FtH|Daemona | --- <heal> --- |
| 21:59.39 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59872 10SummoningBar/ (SummoningBar.lua SummoningBar.toc localization.lua): |
| 21:59.39 | CIA-9 | SummoningBar: |
| 21:59.39 | CIA-9 | - Improved even further upon counting items. GetItemCount() ... Go figure I over looked that one! Improved upon the OnUpdate handler via removing unneeded checks. |
| 21:59.42 | NeoTron | hmm |
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| 22:00.04 | NeoTron | how does the ranged dps know how far to run? experience now I presume |
| 22:00.05 | FtH|Daemona | and only the left and right dps teams move |
| 22:00.12 | FtH|Daemona | kinda easy ;) |
| 22:00.17 | FtH|Daemona | don't move in melee range |
| 22:00.22 | FtH|Daemona | and don't get out of dps range |
| 22:00.28 | NeoTron | ah |
| 22:00.29 | NeoTron | wait |
| 22:00.39 | NeoTron | that makes sense |
| 22:00.48 | NeoTron | interesting strategy |
| 22:00.59 | NeoTron | ours works fine now |
| 22:01.04 | FtH|Daemona | no thats the difference between casual and hardcore ;) |
| 22:01.05 | NeoTron | but that does minimize healer movement |
| 22:01.11 | Hjalte | neotron, t5 gloves? oO |
| 22:01.27 | NeoTron | Hjalte: half our raid consists of priests, paladins and warlocks |
| 22:01.35 | NeoTron | and priests/paladins have had A LOT more dkp to spend |
| 22:01.44 | Hjalte | NeoTron: But but... Badge gloves? |
| 22:01.49 | NeoTron | not worth it |
| 22:01.52 | NeoTron | I have the mags gloves |
| 22:02.28 | FtH|Daemona | not worth it is only not worth it if it equals less than 5 dps... heck i gemmed new for less than 5 dps :X |
| 22:02.35 | NeoTron | mainly yes they are an upgrade but do I really want to get them when I know I will get t6 gloves eventually? |
| 22:02.59 | FtH|Daemona | thats the point: eventually |
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| 22:03.31 | FtH|Daemona | and after all its "only" badges... i have 30 a week from kara/ZA ... and you ask if you should pickup an upgrade? ;) |
| 22:03.32 | NeoTron | I still top DPS charts |
| 22:03.50 | NeoTron | I guess there is a point in that it's only badges (and I have nothing else to spend them on) |
| 22:03.57 | NeoTron | and it's not like I can't afford to enchant/gem thenm |
| 22:04.37 | NeoTron | but I also do value stamina |
| 22:04.50 | NeoTron | like yesterday on RoS desire refused to get off me |
| 22:04.56 | NeoTron | and I ended up with 250 health |
| 22:05.05 | NeoTron | had I been using Studious Wraps instead I'd been dead |
| 22:05.17 | Zariel | How do you set screenshot quality? |
| 22:05.30 | Xinhuan | in wow? you can't ;p |
| 22:05.35 | FtH|Daemona | you can |
| 22:05.40 | FtH|Daemona | in the config.wtf |
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| 22:06.29 | FtH|Daemona | SET screenshotQuality "10" is max |
| 22:06.48 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: wtb blacklisting certain herbs/areas for routes |
| 22:07.05 | FtH|Daemona | aka in caves? ;) |
| 22:07.22 | Xinhuan | not sure how i can set up a GUI for letting user setting up such blacklists |
| 22:07.47 | Shadowed | No, don't care about areas like Barrier Hills without having to completely remove Mana Thistle/Dreaming Glory |
| 22:07.49 | Shadowed | same with SMV |
| 22:07.50 | FtH|Daemona | notes allows comments on map objects no? can't you use that comment for flagging? |
| 22:08.03 | Shadowed | don't care about netherwing ledge, but I don't want to completely remove dreaming glory and thistle |
| 22:08.11 | Xinhuan | except i don't care about _notes |
| 22:09.17 | FtH|Daemona | hey, was offering just a possible solution ;) |
| 22:09.17 | Xinhuan | Routes is the ace3 version, it can pull data from any addon that cares to write a Routes plugin, so we currently support Gatherer/carto/gathermate ;p |
| 22:09.17 | FtH|Daemona | alternatively manually delete notes you dont want in the route. |
| 22:09.41 | NeoTron | hrm. Studious Wraps are better than t6 if I'm spell hit maxed |
| 22:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | gaaaaaaaah |
| 22:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | the WWS website is so sloooooo |
| 22:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | w |
| 22:09.41 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: how do you get data out of them? |
| 22:09.44 | NeoTron | might have to reevaluate getting them |
| 22:09.44 | Shadowed | Do you grab all the herb coords and then store them |
| 22:09.54 | Shadowed | or do you keep refreshing the list everytime they change |
| 22:10.05 | Xinhuan | for carto and gathermate, i access the SV file for that zone directly on route creation |
| 22:10.18 | Xinhuan | for gatherer, because they hide their SV variable, i use their API |
| 22:10.32 | Xinhuan | when you gather a node, carto and gathermate provides a callback |
| 22:10.44 | Shadowed | But, you basically pull data out at route creation and then store it? |
| 22:10.49 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:10.56 | Xinhuan | the only thing i store is the coordinates |
| 22:10.57 | Xinhuan | nothing else |
| 22:11.02 | Shadowed | So, couldn't you add a basic route modifier that lets you remove coordinates? |
| 22:11.15 | Xinhuan | it will be inconsistent across addons |
| 22:11.16 | Shadowed | as long as you don't grab the entire set of herbs because a new one was found, that'd work I think |
| 22:11.43 | Xinhuan | when you find a new node, carto/gm inserts the new node into the database and does a callback with that new node |
| 22:11.49 | Xinhuan | routes will only process that new node |
| 22:11.52 | Xinhuan | not read the SV |
| 22:12.09 | Shadowed | wouldn't think it's too complicated to make a route modifier |
| 22:12.31 | Shadowed | hrm wonder if i can plug that in |
| 22:12.34 | Xinhuan | its not intuitive/feasible, gotta come up with a better method |
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| 22:13.06 | Xinhuan | its the gui portion that's making it hard |
| 22:13.23 | Shadowed | Make it the map of the zone, say ALT + Click removes it, and they have to recalculate the route after |
| 22:13.34 | Xinhuan | suppose you have 400 nodes in a route, you want to delete the 16 of them that is on this island |
| 22:13.42 | Xinhuan | so you are left with 386 of it |
| 22:14.03 | Xinhuan | the issue here is that Routes doesn't create a single frame |
| 22:14.06 | Ellipsis-- | ~fail Xinhuan |
| 22:14.07 | purl | Xinhuan: Fail. |
| 22:14.15 | Xinhuan | all it creates is 386 line textures |
| 22:14.24 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 22:14.42 | Xinhuan | the original nodes on the map you see are provided as-is by Astrolabe/gatherer/gathermate/carto_notes/what-have-you |
| 22:14.49 | Xinhuan | they aren't drawn on the map by me - all i draw is the lines |
| 22:15.05 | Shadowed | But, it has to cluster and recalculate the route somehow isn't it? |
| 22:15.27 | Xinhuan | yes, hence if the route has 386 nodes, i store in a table, 386 coordinates |
| 22:15.50 | Xinhuan | in order, from 1 to N, indexed array-style |
| 22:16.21 | Shadowed | so |
| 22:16.46 | Xinhuan | so the issue isn't in node deletion from a route. the issue is providing a UI to allow the user to do it easily |
| 22:16.48 | Shadowed | You could draw a zone map that has dots where herbs are, but you wouldn't know the specific herbs? |
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| 22:17.03 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 22:17.13 | Xinhuan | but it would overlap with the nodes provided by other addons |
| 22:17.28 | Xinhuan | and clicking them will be a nightmare |
| 22:17.33 | Shadowed | I don't mean on the world map |
| 22:17.39 | Shadowed | I mean, a specifically new map display in /routes |
| 22:17.58 | Xinhuan | that's a possibility, but it isn't simple by any means |
| 22:18.49 | Shadowed | i'll have to play with it a little once i finish this arena history mod |
| 22:19.01 | Xinhuan | maybe i can allow user to draw rectangles to "taboo" |
| 22:19.02 | Recluse | provide interface to list known coods in route - allow user to select a coord and press a "remove from current route" button |
| 22:19.23 | Recluse | Xinhuan: yes, having a "no fly" zone that routes avoids would be a pain but awesome |
| 22:19.26 | Xinhuan | so any node that falls in any rectangles |
| 22:19.33 | Xinhuan | will be deleted |
| 22:19.45 | Xinhuan | and no new node will be added to those rectangles |
| 22:19.51 | Shadowed | That'd be fine |
| 22:19.56 | Kivin | what about nodes that have routes *crossing* those areas? |
| 22:20.03 | Kivin | (thinking about opposite-faction cities) |
| 22:20.07 | Xinhuan | that's a bit stretching a feature ;p |
| 22:20.22 | Shadowed | but I'm fairly sure you'd have a harder time with that then you would reimporting the herb at X coord on a minimap :p |
| 22:20.28 | Recluse | Kivin: such a feature would be the solution to terrain impassability |
| 22:20.39 | Xinhuan | its doable, but the maths involved in calculating whether a line will cross a rectangle will be costly |
| 22:20.42 | Matrix110 | was it |= or =| ? |
| 22:20.42 | Shadowed | although I guess if you just do a simple zone map it's not that hard |
| 22:21.03 | Kivin | I'm an absolute math noob, so I don't really know the implications of this stuff |
| 22:21.20 | Xinhuan | since, you also have to account for the fact that if startpoint and endpoint are both outside the rectangle, the line still can cross the rectangle |
| 22:21.32 | Kivin | exactly |
| 22:21.47 | Xinhuan | and the only way to calculate this is by using 5 parametric equations of a line, 4 per side of the box |
| 22:21.52 | Kivin | then you're left with either choosing a differnet order for the routes (costly) or ignoring certain paths |
| 22:21.53 | Xinhuan | and 1 for the route |
| 22:22.17 | Xinhuan | and calculate the intersection points by solving the quadratic equation of line-line and check that the solution is t within [0-1] |
| 22:22.29 | Xinhuan | if it is, then its an intersection |
| 22:22.42 | Kivin | you might as well be speaking another language to me |
| 22:22.56 | Shirik|Ecole | or you could use the IVT |
| 22:22.59 | Shirik|Ecole | it would be a lot easier... |
| 22:23.12 | Xinhuan | no idea what IVT is |
| 22:23.18 | Shirik|Ecole | intermediate value theorem |
| 22:23.26 | Xinhuan | never heard of it |
| 22:23.43 | Shirik|Ecole | it's really a kinda "well, duh" theorem, but it has to exist because the math gods said so |
| 22:25.00 | Shirik|Ecole | It basically says if f(x) = a, and f(y) = b, then if a < c < b, then there must be some value z in the interval (x,y) such that f(z) = c |
| 22:25.22 | Shirik|Ecole | er, sorry, and a < b |
| 22:25.25 | Shirik|Ecole | one last condition |
| 22:26.31 | Xinhuan | that described the exact same method i just described - where i placed a == 0 and b == 1 |
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| 22:26.41 | Xinhuan | and if the value of the intersection is between t = [0,1] |
| 22:26.45 | Xinhuan | then there is an intersection |
| 22:27.16 | Xinhuan | the line segments dont' extend infinitely |
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| 22:28.11 | Hobby | your method is the same, just specific to linear applications |
| 22:28.20 | Hobby | which is easier on cpu cycles as well |
| 22:28.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Xinhuan: My only point is that you don't have to calculate the intersection :) |
| 22:28.58 | Shirik|Ecole | only know that it exists |
| 22:29.03 | Shirik|Ecole | but your way works too, I've seen the results |
| 22:29.09 | Shirik|Ecole | pretty damn well too |
| 22:29.10 | Hobby | right, but his way is cheaper on cycles =P |
| 22:29.33 | Shirik|Ecole | mine shouldn't take any cycles, there's no calculation to do, only a test |
| 22:29.50 | Xinhuan | its a simple test too for this case |
| 22:29.58 | Shirik|Ecole | is it actually slow? I haven't actually tried it myself |
| 22:30.07 | Xinhuan | because any nodes inside a rectangle is tabooed, all nodes are actually outside-ouside cases |
| 22:30.11 | buu | Xinhuan: I NEED HELP! |
| 22:30.13 | Xinhuan | so if there is any intersection point, |
| 22:30.17 | Shirik|Ecole | don't give it to him |
| 22:30.22 | Ellipsis-- | buu: yes, yes you do |
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| 22:30.22 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-2.0 - optionally allow for spaces within tag sequences. |
| 22:30.22 | CIA-9 | - :FixCasing("code") will now remove spaces and add in spaces around appropriate operators. |
| 22:30.30 | buu | Ellipsis--: Can you help me? |
| 22:30.30 | Xinhuan | nvm, heh |
| 22:30.37 | Ellipsis-- | buu: that depends on your problem |
| 22:30.56 | buu | Ellipsis--: I need an enemy cooldown mod. |
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| 22:31.01 | buu | Then I need one whose bars act like bigwigs. |
| 22:31.12 | Ellipsis-- | then no, I can't help you |
| 22:31.25 | Xinhuan | bigwigs uses CandyBarLib for the bars |
| 22:31.31 | Ellipsis-- | I don't pvp, so I don't know anything about that type of addon |
| 22:31.53 | Xinhuan | as for enemy cooldown mod, the only one is Afflicted (or NECB) |
| 22:32.30 | Hobby | I would recommend NECB, never peeked at the code but excellent from a UI standpoint |
| 22:32.34 | Kivin | Anyone know of an addon that (A) shows how long til my traps expire (on the ground) and (B) how long until my traps' effects wear off? |
| 22:32.56 | buu | Xinhuan: Those aren't ACE and would thus be impossible to change wouldn't they. |
| 22:33.12 | Hobby | NECB does both, all addons, cooldowns, boss respawns, everything with a timer based on an event within your range pretty much |
| 22:33.16 | ckknight | buu: Ace. |
| 22:33.18 | Xinhuan | you could do your own changes |
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| 22:35.11 | dylanm | Impossible to change...? |
| 22:35.13 | buu | ckknight: aceaceaceace |
| 22:35.24 | buu | dylanm: Easily change to use this other bar library thingy. |
| 22:35.40 | buu | Hobby: I sort of like NECB, but the display is ugly =/ |
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| 22:35.50 | CIA-9 | MorgDKP: |
| 22:35.50 | CIA-9 | - Fix for typo in ignore list |
| 22:36.00 | Ellipsis-- | buu: I aced your mom. |
| 22:36.08 | genetik | pwnd |
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| 22:40.54 | Osstia | lesboians? |
| 22:41.00 | thul | ach |
| 22:41.04 | thul | so tired |
| 22:42.23 | Ellipsis-- | o.O |
| 22:42.31 | Industrial | Ellipsis--: HIii |
| 22:42.52 | Industrial | Ellipsis++ imho :D::: |
| 22:42.57 | Industrial | hru |
| 22:43.00 | Industrial | D:>? |
| 22:43.02 | thul | seriously |
| 22:43.03 | thul | work is hard:p |
| 22:43.10 | thul | I got to stop buying so much photo gear :-P |
| 22:43.19 | Osstia | what kinda work do you do thul? |
| 22:43.37 | Industrial | Ellipsis--: im drunk take advantage of me |
| 22:43.40 | Industrial | jklas/DFl:D:D |
| 22:43.48 | Industrial | MOAR |
| 22:44.02 | thul | Osstia: security stuff |
| 22:44.06 | Industrial | k now i can sleep :D?:D?:? |
| 22:44.12 | thul | either as a bouncer or as a G4S-guy |
| 22:44.15 | Ellipsis-- | <3 |
| 22:44.27 | Industrial | <### |
| 22:44.27 | Industrial | er |
| 22:44.30 | Industrial | 3333 |
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| 22:45.01 | ckknight_ | Industrial: hands off mah womenz |
| 22:45.23 | Osstia | fight! fight! |
| 22:45.41 | Industrial | omg im the vvvictim here |
| 22:45.44 | Industrial | read backlog |
| 22:45.52 | Ellipsis | don't lie, you wanted it |
| 22:46.09 | Osstia | [15:43] < Industrial> Ellipsis++ imho :D::: |
| 22:46.14 | Osstia | I think that started it all |
| 22:46.22 | Ellipsis | yeah, that was pretty hot |
| 22:46.24 | Industrial | sigh women n |
| 22:46.27 | Ellipsis | I couldn't help myself at that point |
| 22:46.32 | Industrial | yuo make such a simple statement |
| 22:46.55 | Industrial | anywayay nnn |
| 22:46.57 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.10 | Matrix110 | arg |
| 22:47.18 | Matrix110 | why does |= or =| dont work-.- |
| 22:47.33 | Pkekyo| | BLARBLARBLAR |
| 22:47.33 | Kivin | ? |
| 22:47.34 | Osstia | Matrix110: did you figure out how to strip a string by another string? |
| 22:47.40 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 22:47.45 | Matrix110 | orwell actually not |
| 22:47.48 | Matrix110 | i just copied smth else:P |
| 22:48.27 | Matrix110 | so what do i actually have to use for uneven |
| 22:48.41 | Kivin | mod? |
| 22:49.00 | nevcairiel | like a is not b? |
| 22:49.03 | nevcairiel | ~= ? |
| 22:49.07 | Pkekyo| | != ? |
| 22:49.12 | Matrix110 | AH it was != |
| 22:49.14 | Matrix110 | !!!!! |
| 22:49.18 | Osstia | pil FTW |
| 22:49.37 | nevcairiel | wait, there is != in lua? |
| 22:49.40 | nevcairiel | its ~= |
| 22:49.44 | thul | have to fund my books :-P |
| 22:49.50 | Kivin | I'm so confused. is this Lua or C :P |
| 22:49.59 | Matrix110 | lua |
| 22:50.02 | nevcairiel | != is C, ~= is Lua |
| 22:50.03 | Pkekyo| | it's ~=? never seen that variation before |
| 22:50.10 | Pkekyo| | only seen != and =/= |
| 22:50.13 | nevcairiel | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.2 |
| 22:50.15 | Matrix110 | aha |
| 22:50.17 | Matrix110 | thanks:P |
| 22:50.18 | vithos | ~= is a pretty stupid representation of not equal to, imo |
| 22:50.19 | purl | vithos: what are you talking about? |
| 22:50.27 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 22:50.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:50.31 | vithos | .. |
| 22:50.43 | Pkekyo| | agreed vithos |
| 22:50.43 | Matrix110 | :D |
| 22:50.45 | Kivin | ~lart vithos |
| 22:50.45 | purl | turns vithos into a lifesized tux doll |
| 22:50.49 | Osstia | http://www.lua.org/pil/3.2.html |
| 22:51.08 | Osstia | I always see ~= as Kinda Equal To |
| 22:51.12 | vithos | exactly |
| 22:51.22 | vithos | it means "approximately equal to" in my mind |
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| 22:51.28 | nevcairiel | meh you get used to it |
| 22:51.34 | Kivin | better than <> in VB |
| 22:51.41 | Osstia | agreed |
| 22:51.45 | Matrix110 | but i have to admit i like lua just because you dont have to use the bloody ; |
| 22:51.47 | Matrix110 | etc. |
| 22:52.10 | Ellipsis | but I like ;s |
| 22:52.10 | Ellipsis | :( |
| 22:52.23 | Pkekyo| | what's wrong with semicolon?! YOU EVUL HATURS :< |
| 22:52.49 | Osstia | I only like ;'s when winking |
| 22:52.51 | Ellipsis | I use ; in lua because without it my code just feels...incomplete |
| 22:53.28 | Pkekyo| | I use semicolons everywhere, simply because it's full of win and awesome |
| 22:53.58 | Ellipsis | no u; |
| 22:54.06 | Pkekyo| | NO UUUUUUUUUU |
| 22:54.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i use ; in lua to piss off people who don't like it. |
| 22:54.53 | Osstia | do people actually get pissed by it? |
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| 22:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | No idea, but once in a while you see people in here whinge about so-and-so using semicolons. |
| 22:55.31 | Ellipsis | the first thing I do when I start modifying an addon written by someone else is add the ;s |
| 22:55.33 | MentalPower | you can't use semi's in auctioneer :P |
| 22:55.39 | MentalPower | its in our coding standards page |
| 22:55.54 | RaydenUni | lua doesn't require ; but you can use them? |
| 22:55.55 | MentalPower | we're not nazis about it tho |
| 22:56.00 | MentalPower | yes, you can use it |
| 22:56.05 | NightHawkTheSane | MentalPower: see, if you actually go through the trouble to make a coding standards page, I'd actually respect it. :) |
| 22:56.10 | RaydenUni | interesting |
| 22:56.43 | ag` | I delete ; |
| 22:56.53 | MentalPower | NightHawkTheSane: http://wiki.norganna.org/Developer_Procedures <--Scroll down to the very end |
| 22:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | I would imagine it's just a holdover from C-like languages, and the lua devs didn't want it required, but didn't want to break their habits :P |
| 22:57.23 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 22:57.26 | RaydenUni | i think ruby is the same way |
| 22:57.39 | RaydenUni | ruby also lets you use () or not |
| 22:57.49 | RaydenUni | and {} or do end |
| 22:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | MentalPower: neat. although, isn't "4 space tab stops" redundant with the "tab indent" part? |
| 22:58.35 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, if you're using tabs, how many spaces are in a tab is an editor setting, yeah? |
| 22:58.37 | MentalPower | we use tabs for alignment |
| 22:58.46 | MentalPower | yes it is |
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| 22:59.32 | [dRaCo] | any mod that adds armor penetration to the character screen? |
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| 23:00.34 | MentalPower | but if you use tabs for alignment and you use a diff tabstop, then the alignment will look messed-up |
| 23:01.01 | Matrix110 | i just created some loop and my wow used 3,5GB of memory then it crashed |
| 23:01.06 | Matrix110 | :D |
| 23:01.17 | Osstia | bravo |
| 23:01.46 | Primer | this Cartographer integration is harder than I expected |
| 23:02.07 | Primer | I was hoping to use existing code in Cartographer_Waypoints but...lua has some weird scoping |
| 23:02.53 | Sais | I've not had much issue calling Waypoints stuff from outside....I don't think they were global functions. |
| 23:03.08 | Primer | why is it desirable to have global variables? |
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| 23:03.28 | Primer | Sais: my goal is to add a waypoint to my HUD addon, but without the arrow |
| 23:03.33 | Primer | and have it move as the HUD pans |
| 23:03.41 | Primer | my HUD != what you think of a HUD |
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| 23:03.56 | Primer | it's a true flight HUD with pitch and heading |
| 23:04.10 | Primer | the pitch is fake though |
| 23:04.23 | Primer | Sais: how exactly are you using it? |
| 23:04.42 | Pkekyo| | impressive, Matrix110 |
| 23:05.07 | Sais | I'm using it to add a waypoint - but I want the arrow. Not looked into where you'd do that. |
| 23:05.30 | Kivin | sigh, two wipes on the first bog overlord in heroic SV. this doesn't bode well for the future of my group |
| 23:05.30 | Aens|Superiority | anyone here a raiding shadow destro lock? |
| 23:05.34 | Primer | well, the code in Waypoints creates a frame |
| 23:05.47 | Primer | which adds the arrow |
| 23:05.58 | Primer | at this point I've duplicated the frame code, omitting the arrow |
| 23:05.59 | Osstia | ouch |
| 23:06.09 | Osstia | that double lord pull is gonna hurt :) |
| 23:06.39 | Osstia | oh wait, am I thinking UB |
| 23:06.44 | Osstia | shoot me. i need to go home |
| 23:06.59 | Primer | I just need to add the update code, as I need to 1) move it across my HUD or display indicators to show which way to turn to face it, 2) bearing, and name and distance, which Waypoints already does |
| 23:08.22 | Primer | so effectively I'm duplicating the createframe code, but I was hoping to re-use the update code |
| 23:08.42 | Primer | Sais: what addon is yours? |
| 23:08.43 | Xinhuan | what's difficult of calling the cart_waypoints api directly? |
| 23:08.47 | Xinhuan | to add a waypoint |
| 23:08.53 | Primer | Xinhuan: I don't want the arrow |
| 23:09.04 | Sais | I've just added some of my own mods to existing code. |
| 23:09.05 | Xinhuan | then you're gonng have to write your own |
| 23:10.49 | Kivin | wipe number three. second bog overlord. god i'm glad i'm a hunter and can save my own life |
| 23:10.50 | buu | Use tabs for indention. |
| 23:10.54 | buu | What. |
| 23:11.32 | Primer | Xinhuan: it's what I'm doing |
| 23:13.40 | Primer | My goal is to add an option to cart's right click menu: Set as FlightHUD waypoint. To effect that I had to add "if FlightHUD then ... end" into Cartographer_Waypoints/Notes.lua. Is there any way for me to intercept that event after the fact and simply AddLine my option using code in my addon? |
| 23:14.54 | Xinhuan | answer: no, because it uses dewdrop |
| 23:14.59 | Primer | or completely redraw that option so my option is where I want it to be? Because it seems there's no way to Dewdrop:AddLine(position in the menu) |
| 23:15.01 | Xinhuan | if it was an option table, then yes |
| 23:15.23 | Primer | his code uses AddLine |
| 23:15.31 | Xinhuan | if you want to integrate it in, then your only choice is to make your addon a cartographer_submodule |
| 23:15.44 | Xinhuan | wait |
| 23:15.47 | Xinhuan | what are you asking |
| 23:15.59 | Xinhuan | cart doesn't have a right click menu? |
| 23:16.09 | Primer | control right click |
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| 23:16.26 | Xinhuan | oh you don't really have a choice for that heh |
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| 23:16.51 | Primer | well, I have integrated it, but it involves patching Cartographer_Waypoints/Notes.lua |
| 23:16.55 | Xinhuan | i think waypoints hooks the silly onclick function for WorldMapButton |
| 23:17.10 | Primer | and I'm curious as to how receptive ckknight will be to my diff |
| 23:17.19 | Primer | as he still hasn't reponded to my email |
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| 23:17.46 | Xinhuan | well keep in mind that not everyone uses _waypoints |
| 23:17.46 | Primer | probably because he's thinking "what a fucking n00b, doesn't he realize that it should be done like _THIS_?" |
| 23:17.51 | Xinhuan | i myself have it disabled |
| 23:18.06 | Xinhuan | you need a better method |
| 23:18.28 | Primer | well, the ultimate goal is to drill down with what's available |
| 23:18.37 | Primer | since I have cart and waypoints, I started there |
| 23:18.43 | Xinhuan | you already recoded _waypoints into your own addon |
| 23:18.47 | Primer | as this is where my context menu comes from |
| 23:18.48 | Xinhuan | just go further and provide your own mneu |
| 23:18.59 | Xinhuan | menu* |
| 23:19.50 | Xinhuan | in your current scenerio, if the user disables _waypoints, then he can't use the feature, even though it doesn't use any part of _waypoints |
| 23:20.29 | Xinhuan | only method i can think of is for you to hook a new click combination on the WorldMapButton |
| 23:20.33 | Xinhuan | say Ctrl+Alt+click |
| 23:20.38 | Xinhuan | to bring up your own menu |
| 23:21.32 | Primer | ok |
| 23:21.34 | Xinhuan | that way, it'll even work without cartographer - and it'll work with every map mod in general |
| 23:22.26 | Primer | I'm still looking at stealing a bunch of code from waypoints just to do the distance and bearing calculation |
| 23:22.32 | ckknight | Primer: because I responded to you in IRC |
| 23:22.43 | Primer | ckknight: ahh I didn't catch that |
| 23:22.46 | Primer | thanks |
| 23:23.03 | Xinhuan | take the code Primer, you can take code from _Waypoints, but the requirement is that you have to GPL your addon |
| 23:23.06 | Xinhuan | since _Waypoints is GPLed |
| 23:23.12 | Primer | that's not a problem |
| 23:23.22 | Primer | even though I prefer BSD myself :) |
| 23:23.29 | thul | freebsd |
| 23:23.30 | thul | :-P |
| 23:23.31 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59876 10BlessingBar/ (BlessingBar.lua BlessingBar.toc): |
| 23:23.31 | CIA-9 | BlessingBar: |
| 23:23.31 | CIA-9 | - Cleaned up OnUpdate code, removed redundant stuff. |
| 23:23.51 | ckknight | Primer: yea, I'm not all that fond of GPL, but BSD is like asking for an assraping from some people I know |
| 23:24.00 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59877 10CurseBar/ (CurseBar.lua CurseBar.toc): |
| 23:24.01 | CIA-9 | CurseBar: |
| 23:24.01 | CIA-9 | - Cleaned up OnUpdate code, removed redundant stuff. |
| 23:24.09 | Xinhuan | i don't even know the difference between BSD and GPL ;p |
| 23:24.20 | sb | FtH|Daemona: still here? :o |
| 23:24.24 | Ellipsis | obviously one of them is much more violent |
| 23:24.26 | Xinhuan | at least, never read into it |
| 23:24.34 | FtH|Daemona | sure |
| 23:24.36 | Primer | ckknight: do you agree with Xinhuan's in this case? Seeing that I didn't catch your response... |
| 23:24.39 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59878 10SealBar/ (SealBar.lua SealBar.toc): |
| 23:24.39 | CIA-9 | SealBar: |
| 23:24.39 | CIA-9 | - Cleaned up OnUpdate code, removed redundant stuff. |
| 23:24.50 | kneeki | *sigh*, one more to go! |
| 23:24.53 | ckknight | Primer: what's the purpose of your code? |
| 23:24.55 | sb | FtH|Daemona: do you have any bt wws with multiple warglaives in raid? :o |
| 23:25.02 | tinderbox | BSD = do whatever you want with it... GPL = if you use this code, you have to make your code open also (and GPL) |
| 23:25.14 | Xinhuan | he wants to add a "right click menu" to appear for his addon when righ-clicking on the map |
| 23:25.25 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59879 10SummoningBar/ (SummoningBar.lua SummoningBar.toc): |
| 23:25.25 | CIA-9 | SummoningBar: |
| 23:25.25 | CIA-9 | - Cleaned up OnUpdate code, removed redundant stuff. |
| 23:25.34 | Xinhuan | so i suggested hooking the OnClick of WorldMapButton, for some unique click combination like ctrl-alt-right-click |
| 23:25.40 | FtH|Daemona | sb, as the first pair went to a fury warrior that is mainly 2nd tank for some time now ... no, as the 3rd pair got only completed today. |
| 23:25.40 | Primer | ckknight: at first I wanted to "integrate" with waypoints. Add an option under "Set as waypoint" in the control right click menu that read "Set as FlightHUD waypoint", which would call code in my addon |
| 23:25.54 | ckknight | yea, sure |
| 23:25.56 | ckknight | seems find to me |
| 23:26.09 | Primer | ckknight: which would then show the waypoint, that'd exist in my code. This waypoint will "pan" as my HUD pans |
| 23:26.10 | sb | FtH|Daemona: meh %-) |
| 23:26.27 | Primer | much like how a fighter jet, once locked onto an enemy target, pans across their HUD |
| 23:26.36 | Xinhuan | the only problem with modifying _Waypoint to add in that FlightHuD option is that it makes FlightHud tied to Cartographer |
| 23:26.36 | Pkekyo| | sod-all, I'm off |
| 23:26.36 | Pkekyo| | g'nite peeps |
| 23:26.56 | Xinhuan | and addon dependencies is something you generally want to avoid |
| 23:27.21 | Primer | Xinhuan: well, originally I presumed I'd be able to call waypoints API with my object, but since then I've found that's not possible |
| 23:27.36 | Xinhuan | yah, its not possible, _waypoints will draw the arrow |
| 23:27.56 | sb | FtH|Daemona: looking for some warrior <> rogue dps comparison (with warglaives) ;o |
| 23:28.21 | FtH|Daemona | won't happen anymore ifear, as one pair went to current 2nd maintank... |
| 23:28.28 | sb | hmokay |
| 23:28.41 | FtH|Daemona | but if you feel like digging through ome wws files ... |
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| 23:28.54 | stavmar | Xinhuan: I am getting this error repeated, I have teh latest revision from this morning and just wanted to pass it on to you. http://ace.pastey.net/81584 |
| 23:29.16 | Primer | my only real concern really was: what is the etiquette/protocol for sending patches with "if MyAddon then ... end" to other developers for them to add to their code |
| 23:29.25 | sb | FtH|Daemona: well - thought you could be some good source ;) |
| 23:29.27 | CIA-9 | 03gagorian * r59880 10DrDamage/Data/Druid.lua: |
| 23:29.27 | CIA-9 | DrDamage: |
| 23:29.27 | CIA-9 | - Fixed maim calculation |
| 23:29.43 | Xinhuan | hmm i don't think Notesharing is working yet heh |
| 23:29.51 | Xinhuan | the entire thing is untested |
| 23:29.54 | Xinhuan | and drycoded by kagaro |
| 23:29.55 | Ellipsis | Primer: ask really nicely and be ready to get on your knees if they're stubborn? |
| 23:29.59 | FtH|Daemona | sb, i could offer a link to our guild overview and you just dig for fights where me and the warrior are dps'in |
| 23:30.01 | Sais | lol |
| 23:30.11 | sb | FtH|Daemona: hm - why not :) |
| 23:30.19 | Primer | Ellipsis: heh |
| 23:30.24 | Xinhuan | so all you're using in GatherMate_NoteShare is a completely drycoded untested code ;p |
| 23:30.48 | stavmar | Xinhuan: ok just wanted to pass it along |
| 23:31.00 | CIA-9 | 03kaelten * r59881 10cgProfiler/ (npcs/npcs.lua quests/quests.lua): cgProfiler: Updated data collection |
| 23:31.00 | Xinhuan | actually, what is note_sharing doing with removenode |
| 23:31.02 | Xinhuan | wtf? |
| 23:31.35 | Primer | ok, now to svn |
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| 23:32.34 | Primer | there are 3 different repos. One is the "dev" repo, the other the "externals". The way I understand it is I can commit to the dev repo all day for, say, collaborating with myself (as I code from both work and home), and WAU or JWU don't update from that...? |
| 23:32.44 | Primer | dev/trunk, that is |
| 23:33.03 | NeoTron | Gagorian-: Does DrDamage take Improved Shadow Bolt debuf into account at all? |
| 23:33.06 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r59882 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.lua: GatharMate_Sharing: Remove callback for node deletion. There is no data to read/send if a node is already deleted, dummy. |
| 23:33.06 | JoshBorke | Primer: there is 1 repo, there are 3 ways to access the files on the repo |
| 23:33.22 | NeoTron | actually I'm prettu sure it doesn't |
| 23:33.24 | JoshBorke | Primer: dev.wowace.com you have to authenticate against and you can write to the repo |
| 23:33.36 | JoshBorke | Primer: svn.wowace.com you can read only from the repo |
| 23:33.57 | Recluse | something i'd like to see implemented in GatherMate is the ability to set different colors per node based on gathering skill needed. Many of my characters are herb/mine and so I much change trackers when out farming. having a different node color would let me know when a change in tracking is required =3 |
| 23:33.59 | JoshBorke | Primer: WAU et. al. connect to files.wowace.com which is a collection of zips generated from trunk on the repo |
| 23:34.09 | Xinhuan | Recluse: already implemented |
| 23:34.09 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: it should when ISB is up on your target |
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| 23:34.15 | Primer | JoshBorke: but from trunk? |
| 23:34.25 | Xinhuan | you have to get the version from SVN branches though |
| 23:34.29 | JoshBorke | Primer: what do you mean, "but from trunk?"? |
| 23:34.36 | JoshBorke | can you make that a full sentence? |
| 23:34.43 | Ellipsis | full sentences are for |
| 23:34.44 | Primer | JoshBorke: these zips, where do they come from? |
| 23:34.54 | Recluse | Xinhuan: it was? mebbe i need to re get it lol - the one i have has custom colors, but it's global for all nodes. |
| 23:34.58 | Primer | JoshBorke: currently my addon has embeds.xml, but no Libs in the tree |
| 23:34.59 | Ellipsis | Primer: files.* packages anything in trunk |
| 23:35.12 | Primer | I was doing that manually using a script |
| 23:35.18 | JoshBorke | Primer: they come from all folders in repo/trunk that have a proper toc for the current version and correct externals |
| 23:35.25 | Xinhuan | yes you have an uber old version |
| 23:35.32 | Xinhuan | like 20 commits ago |
| 23:35.36 | JoshBorke | Primer: if your addon is in trunk but not in files and you've waited more than 20 minutes then you should check the errors on files.wowace.com |
| 23:36.36 | Primer | ok, the zip is there |
| 23:36.37 | JoshBorke | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt |
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| 23:36.53 | Primer | but the Libs directory, which I was told should not exist in SVN, is absent |
| 23:37.24 | simlan | Question: If my addon doesn't get loaded because it contains Lua syntax errors, who can I see which error appeared? |
| 23:37.33 | simlan | *how |
| 23:37.41 | Primer | JoshBorke: so how do I automate the inclusion of the necessary libs? |
| 23:37.47 | Ellipsis | simlan: go to interface options and check "show lua errors" |
| 23:38.03 | Ellipsis | or install an error-catching addon like swatter or bugsack/buggrabber |
| 23:38.05 | Recluse | also nice to have an error grabbing addon |
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| 23:38.08 | JoshBorke | Primer: I'm sorry I don't understand that statement. the way wowace does libraries is that you should have some folder, typically called libs or Libs or whatever, that you put all needed libraries into. This is typically done by setting externals either on the root folder of the addon or on the libs folder for the addon |
| 23:38.12 | Ellipsis | Primer: you have no extxernals set |
| 23:38.32 | JoshBorke | being sick makes me verbose |
| 23:38.33 | Ellipsis | s/extxernals/externals |
| 23:38.38 | Primer | ok, I obviously missed that step |
| 23:38.51 | Ellipsis | funny JoshBorke, it's having the opposite effect on me |
| 23:38.57 | Ellipsis | I'm typing less and failing more |
| 23:38.57 | Primer | thanks for all the handholding btw, I really appreciate it |
| 23:39.16 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: just get ckknight to type for you |
| 23:39.28 | Ellipsis | he's busy doing something stupid like working on addons |
| 23:39.33 | Kivin | *smirk* |
| 23:39.34 | simlan | Ellipsis, I have swatter installed, do I need to /swat show? |
| 23:39.39 | Ellipsis | yeah simlan that should do it |
| 23:40.17 | simlan | Ellipsis, cool thanks |
| 23:40.22 | Kivin | that reminds me. i need to fix bugsack to use a fixed-width font =\ |
| 23:40.31 | ag` | Primer: http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners |
| 23:40.37 | JoshBorke | switching |
| 23:41.08 | Primer | ag`: ahh it's an svn prop...yeah, I remember this now |
| 23:41.18 | Primer | completely forgot to follow through on this step |
| 23:41.26 | ag` | yep, just follow that guide |
| 23:42.06 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r59883 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.lua: GatharMate_Sharing: Fix note sharing data format. zone argument is a string, not an integer so we need to convert that. |
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| 23:43.07 | Recluse | oh man, that's nice. thank god for the node type coloring |
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| 23:47.28 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r59884 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.lua: |
| 23:47.28 | CIA-9 | GatharMate_Sharing: Reinserted working callback for node deletion, and check |
| 23:47.29 | CIA-9 | that the option to sync node deletion is on/off. Added code to check that |
| 23:47.29 | CIA-9 | syncing is enabled for all communication functions before trying to send/receive |
| 23:47.29 | CIA-9 | anything. |
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| 23:49.31 | Xinhuan | there stavmar, maybe that will fix everything |
| 23:49.41 | Xinhuan | i should write up a config screen for it |
| 23:49.52 | Xinhuan | since there isn't one |
| 23:50.15 | stavmar | Xinhuan: ok will update |
| 23:51.57 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r59885 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.toc: GatharMate_Sharing: Add GatherMate as a dependency lol! |
| 23:52.29 | Xinhuan | sometimes, it just bugs me out just how much drycoding kagaro does ;p |
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| 23:54.25 | Fin | is Gathermate a Gatherer type addon? |
| 23:54.29 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:54.39 | Fin | is it ready for use? |
| 23:54.50 | Xinhuan | it is in beta stage, and ready for use |
| 23:54.54 | Fin | thanks |
| 23:55.00 | Xinhuan | however, because it uses ace3 |
| 23:55.04 | Xinhuan | we can't actually release it |
| 23:55.08 | Xinhuan | until ace3 is released itself |
| 23:55.15 | Xinhuan | which could take... months |
| 23:55.36 | Xinhuan | because Mikk isn't doing his job to finish up AceConfigCmd |
| 23:55.45 | Elsia | hmm anyone happen to know the r,g,b of the color one gets when one creates a new fontstring? it's an organe/yellow |
| 23:55.47 | Stanzilla | oh I thought Fin died while making changes to PitBull_Aura :p |
| 23:55.49 | Fin | oh, really? that's a bit pants mcbigpants |
| 23:55.51 | Fin | shame |
| 23:56.00 | Fin | Stanzilla: actually, Pitbull died on me |
| 23:56.05 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 23:56.06 | Xinhuan | Elsia: |cAARRGGBBetcetc|r |
| 23:56.06 | Fin | I'm currently using a revision from yesterday |
| 23:56.07 | Stanzilla | what happened? |
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| 23:56.20 | Fin | my unit frames were showing up as blank grey rectangles |
| 23:56.22 | Elsia | xin: that works :P |
| 23:56.25 | Xinhuan | but if you want to get the color |
| 23:56.34 | Xinhuan | you can fontstring:GetFontColor() i think? |
| 23:56.52 | Fin | I saw some SVN commit notes about something or other and figured I'd go back to yesterday's version and wait to see if something got fixed |
| 23:56.54 | Elsia | yep I know.. wnated to safe a minute or two but can do that |
| 23:57.00 | Ellipsis | Fin: it's all been fixed up now |
| 23:57.03 | Wobin | although, to be honest, when has beta status really stopped an Ace addon from being used? =) |
| 23:57.03 | Xinhuan | FontInstance:GetTextColor() |
| 23:57.04 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 23:57.07 | Xinhuan | that's the one Elsia |
| 23:57.16 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontInstance_GetTextColor |
| 23:57.32 | Fin | Ellipsis: oh, great, thanks :) I was just about to check the logs actually, nice to know that a) it wasn't just me and b) it's no longer me |
| 23:57.35 | Fin | hooray |
| 23:57.36 | Wobin | Ace addons go for the viral approach rather than the front page approach =P |
| 23:57.52 | Xinhuan | its problematic Wobin |
| 23:57.57 | Xinhuan | because we can't set X-Embeds |
| 23:58.04 | Xinhuan | for ppl to update using "without externals" |
| 23:58.08 | Ellipsis | yeah Fin, you can blame ck for committing untested code |
| 23:58.19 | Fin | naughty |
| 23:58.19 | Wobin | Cause although the points of data make a beautiful line, we don't get out of beta, but release it on time. |
| 23:58.21 | Ellipsis | of course he has his silly excuse about how he THOUGHT he was testing it but was testing the wrong thing...but whatever |
| 23:58.21 | Xinhuan | so the only way is to embed all the ace3 files ourselves directly |
| 23:58.40 | Wobin | Xinhuan: which isn't -really- an issue |
| 23:58.49 | Xinhuan | it is when i have to update them manually |
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| 23:58.58 | Wobin | hi2usvn? |
| 23:59.07 | Xinhuan | and users can't download it without the externals |
| 23:59.13 | Wobin | -and-? |
| 23:59.18 | Xinhuan | so its problematic |
| 23:59.22 | Wobin | no it's not =P |
| 23:59.29 | Xinhuan | it is, the millions out there a dumb |
| 23:59.31 | Xinhuan | are* |
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| 23:59.37 | Wobin | If they want to be all big n special and go unembedded |
| 23:59.40 | Wobin | then they do the work |
| 23:59.41 | Xinhuan | they will go "why doesn't this work" |
| 23:59.50 | Wobin | The addon works fine as it's supposed to |
| 23:59.53 | Wobin | ie, embedded |
| 23:59.59 | Xinhuan | well when updaters like WAU and JAU offer unembedded, its problematic |
