IRC log for #wowace on 20080203

`00:00.04`	`thul`	`slow 2h + swing timer + slam = the win :-P`
`00:00.12`	`thul`	`(imp slam)`
`00:00.12`	`RaydenUni`	`isn't slam like heroic striek but for 2h?`
`00:00.15`	`thul`	`no`
`00:00.18`	`thul`	`not at all`
`00:00.23`	`Orionshock`	`mmkay... any ideas as to why L["Updated %q's tradeskills. Version: %d"] is giving me a weird and Off number for the 2nd regex?`
`00:00.42`	`RaydenUni`	`i was trying to figure out what slam is for cause with duel wield it's more rage and less dmg than heroic strike`
`00:00.59`	`Ellipsis`	`Orionshock: if it's LoD and hasn't been loaded`
`00:01.04`	`thul`	`if you time your slam, just after your white hit, you get an "extra" hit`
`00:01.11`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`slam is what you use as an MS warrior on raids. Thats it`
`00:01.20`	`thul`	`erhm? :-P`
`00:01.30`	`thul`	`slam is _the_ best skill for leveling solo :-)`
`00:01.38`	`Orionshock`	`Ellipsis ... right...`
`00:01.41`	`Orionshock`	`>.>`
`00:01.57`	`Ellipsis`	`sec`
`00:01.59`	`thul`	`http://fc.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/033/f/7/Norstrand_Sunset_by_cainadamsson.png`
`00:02.31`	`Ellipsis`	`Orionshock: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua?r1=58185&r2=59969`
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`00:03.01`	`Orionshock`	`sorry Ellipsis not related`
`00:03.15`	`Ellipsis`	`well that's the only thing that changed about version reporting`
`00:03.42`	`RaydenUni`	`well i'll respec fury and see if that makes leveling this warrior any more fun`
`00:03.43`	`Orionshock`	`ya unrelated.`
`00:03.45`	`Orionshock`	`lua> ("%d"):format(date("!%Y%m%d%H%M"))`
`00:03.46`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: -2147483648,`
`00:05.04`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60069 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: recycle frames properly cleans up the scripts`
`00:05.04`	`Orionshock`	`ok...`
`00:05.06`	`Orionshock`	`lua> ("%d"):format( 20080203004 )`
`00:05.06`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: -2147483648,`
`00:05.19`	`Orionshock`	`ideas or am i doing this totaly wrong?`
`00:05.35`	`JoshBorke`	`wtf are you doing?`
`00:05.43`	`JoshBorke`	`lua> string.format("%d", 5)`
`00:05.44`	`lua_bot`	`JoshBorke: 5,`
`00:05.48`	`JoshBorke`	`lua> string.format("%d", 20080203004)`
`00:05.49`	`lua_bot`	`JoshBorke: -2147483648,`
`00:05.54`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60070 10FuBar_ClockFu/ (8 files): FuBar_ClockFu - use LibRockLocale-1.0 instead of AceLocale-2.2`
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`00:06.33`	`Orionshock`	`trying to figure out a locale regex to insert a "version-date" into it`
`00:06.40`	`Orionshock`	`and im getting weird numbers back`
`00:07.05`	`Pkekyo\|`	`g'mornin lads and lasses`
`00:07.07`	`Pkekyo\|`	`~time`
`00:07.08`	`purl`	`2008.02.03 0:07:08 GMT, or the fourth dimension`
`00:07.09`	`JoshBorke`	`lua> ("%s"):format( 20080203004 )`
`00:07.09`	`lua_bot`	`JoshBorke: 20080203004,`
`00:07.30`	`SunTsu`	`Orionshock: is %d integer? Then this could be an overflow`
`00:09.21`	`charon`	`lua> date("!%Y%m%d%H%M")`
`00:09.21`	`lua_bot`	`charon: 200802030009,`
`00:09.22`	`Orionshock`	`according to PIL : " %ddigits"`
`00:09.36`	`charon`	`huh... reference manual says date should return a string`
`00:09.47`	`charon`	`or is that just the way the bot prints strings`
`00:09.59`	`charon`	`lua> "0"`
`00:10.00`	`lua_bot`	`charon: 0`
`00:10.03`	`charon`	`indeed.`
`00:10.13`	`Sais`	`lua> type(date("!%Y%m%d%H%M"))`
`00:10.14`	`lua_bot`	`Sais: string,`
`00:10.31`	`Orionshock`	`hummm... that would indeed cause problems...`
`00:10.54`	`wereHamster`	`lua> ("%d"):format(tointeger(date("!%Y%m%d%H%M")))`
`00:10.54`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: [string "("%d"):format(tointeger(date("!%Y%m%d%H%M")..."]:1: attempt to call global 'tointeger' (a nil value)`
`00:11.15`	`Sais`	`tonumber?`
`00:11.19`	`Orionshock`	`ya`
`00:11.21`	`Orionshock`	`lua> ("%d"):format(tonumber(date("!%Y%m%d%H%M")))`
`00:11.21`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: -2147483648,`
`00:11.25`	`Orionshock`	`-.-`
`00:11.32`	`Orionshock`	`fk it, i'll just use %s`
`00:11.37`	`Sais`	`but %d should work in a string, no?`
`00:11.37`	`wereHamster`	`lua> type(tonumber(date("!%Y%m%d%H%M")))`
`00:11.37`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: number,`
`00:11.45`	`wereHamster`	`no`
`00:12.10`	`Sais`	`Oh, sorry. missed what was being done.`
`00:12.13`	`wereHamster`	`lua> tonumber(date("!%Y%m%d%H%M"))`
`00:12.13`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: 200802030012,`
`00:13.15`	`Orionshock`	`tho using UCT time for a version format is rather convenient for me :D no complicated anything... :D`
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`00:14.43`	`Erica`	`Anyone taking screenies of ckknight in his skivvies?! lol`
`00:14.57`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`00:15.12`	`Erica`	`not quite sure what that has to do with parrot but kinda scary`
`00:16.17`	`Osstia\|home`	`do you own pants ckknight?`
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`00:16.26`	`ckknight`	`I just prefer not to wear them`
`00:16.37`	`Osstia\|home`	`thats surely fair enough`
`00:16.55`	`Osstia\|home`	`and it seems to make ellipsis smile, so thats good too`
`00:17.14`	`Erica`	`rofl`
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`00:20.34`	`Srosh`	`Ok, I'm out. That's it.`
`00:20.38`	`Srosh`	`;)`
`00:20.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`lua> locale = "deDE"; return (locale == "enGB" or "frFR" or "deDE" or "esES")`
`00:20.40`	`lua_bot`	`Gnarfoz: frFR`
`00:20.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`thought as much :\`
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`00:21.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`lua> locale = "deDE"; return (locale == "enGB" or locale == "frFR" or locale == "deDE" or locale == "esES")`
`00:21.23`	`lua_bot`	`Gnarfoz: true`
`00:21.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`that's no good, either >_>`
`00:21.43`	`Erica`	`LibBabble-Zone-3.0: Translation "Well Fed" not found.`
`00:21.44`	`Erica`	`PitBull_Aura\Aura.lua:658: in`
`00:21.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`lua> locale = "koKR"; return (locale == "enGB" or locale == "frFR" or locale == "deDE" or locale == "esES")`
`00:21.52`	`lua_bot`	`Gnarfoz: false`
`00:22.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`Babble-Zone for "Well Fed"? that seems wrong :D`
`00:22.30`	`Erica`	`yeah it's babbling again`
`00:23.12`	`Erica`	`just getting that in my bugsack now`
`00:25.06`	`Erica`	`I think ckknight's parrot freaked out when it saw him in his skivvies and pecked the keyboard`
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`00:27.35`	`Firelemming`	`goodnight everybody`
`00:27.46`	`Erica`	`Good night!`
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`00:30.09`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60071 10kgPanels/kgPanels.toc: kgPanels: added options dep on libsharedmedia-2.0`
`00:33.31`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60072 10Routes/ (Data.lua Plugins/Gatherer.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Move continent/zone data generation from :OnInitialize() to Data.lua. Collapse our own zoneIDs (which is just cID*100+zID) into our data table. Generate zone <-> mapfile translation tables. Update code.`
`00:34.20`	`CIA-9`	`03gnarfoz * r60073 10LifePercent/LifePercent.lua: LifePercent - Now supports different release dates for US, EU, CN, TW and KR.`
`00:36.03`	`CIA-9`	`03nargiddley 07Beta * r60074 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua:`
`00:36.03`	`CIA-9`	`Ace3 - AceConfigCmd:`
`00:36.03`	`CIA-9`	`- Finish implementation of tristate in type = 'select', now accepts 'default' to set to the third state`
`00:36.03`	`CIA-9`	`- Implement type = 'multiselect' with full support for tristate`
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`00:39.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/i22188_midgetlol.gif`
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`00:41.16`	`Camci`	`Can someone link me a good paladin protection spec, thats also good for lvling?`
`00:41.20`	`Camci`	`lvl 62 atm`
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`00:44.32`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60075 10Routes/ (Routes.lua TSP.lua): Routes: Step 3 - Convert TSP.lua to require localized zonenames instead of English ones. Update calling code as necessary.`
`00:45.26`	`Orionshock`	`ok, question. I have the enUS Game, i want to get the frFR locale for it to load it up and test with .... how do i go about doing that?`
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`00:46.15`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis * r60076 10/branches/kgPanelsConfig/ (6 files in 3 dirs): kgPanelsConfig: initial import`
`00:46.56`	`CIA-9`	`03joshborke * r60077 10PitBull/CombatFader/CombatFader.lua:`
`00:46.56`	`CIA-9`	`PitBull`
`00:46.56`	`CIA-9`	`- disable CombatFader by default, no one uses it`
`00:51.02`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60078 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix missing "You have X routes in Y zone" in newly created zones.`
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`00:52.02`	`vhaarr`	`Gnarfoz: GetLocale() returns "enUS" on european english WoW clients as well, you need to use some other way to detect it, like using the realmList cvar.`
`00:52.04`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60079 10kgPanelsConfig/ (. Libs/): kgPanelsConfig: updated svn props/externals`
`00:52.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`oh`
`00:52.26`	`vhaarr`	`Gnarfoz: GetCVar("realmList"):match("eu"), for example.`
`00:52.32`	`Gnarfoz`	`thanks =)`
`00:52.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`when does it return enGB, though?`
`00:53.00`	`vhaarr`	`never`
`00:53.06`	`Recluse`	`anyone here use bEQL and having strange issues with the tracker?`
`00:53.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`I should probably update wowwiki as well, then`
`00:54.41`	`vhaarr`	`Gnarfoz: If I remember correctly, there's also some global set for the locale, perhaps LOCALE_enGB or something`
`00:54.44`	`vhaarr`	`I don't quite remember`
`00:55.07`	`vhaarr`	`doesn't matter, just use realmList`
`00:55.14`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, I will`
`00:55.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`that makes that particular line even simpler, anyway`
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`00:56.07`	`Silowyi`	`Murphy's Law for the Kael'thas fight`
`00:56.26`	`Silowyi`	`Thaladred will always gaze the one person in the raid who you just brought along out of sympathy`
`00:56.36`	`Gnarfoz`	`heh`
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`00:58.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`im not sure but i think GetCVar("locale") might be set to "enGB" for european english clients`
`00:59.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`but the best way to check is deffently GetCVar("realmList")`
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`01:00.02`	`CIA-9`	`03gnarfoz * r60080 10LifePercent/LifePercent.lua: LifePercent - work around GetLocale ambiguity`
`01:00.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`i was messing around with the european language packs and had a US client with the EU language packs`
`01:03.22`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60081 10kgPanels/ (Libs/ embeds.xml kgPanels.lua):`
`01:03.22`	`CIA-9`	`kgPanels:`
`01:03.22`	`CIA-9`	`- command-line switch now same as addon name`
`01:03.22`	`CIA-9`	`- removed aceconfig3; don't need it since it's in kgPanelsConfig`
`01:03.22`	`CIA-9`	`- kgPanelsConfig now correctly called`
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`01:08.15`	`CIA-9`	`03peragor * r60082 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-enUS.lua:`
`01:08.15`	`CIA-9`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`01:08.15`	`CIA-9`	`- Bugfix: Forgot a translation`
`01:08.28`	`Xinhuan`	`this is what happens on Argent Dawn when Blackrock crashes ;p`
`01:08.29`	`Xinhuan`	`http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8098/wowscrnshot013008213729rk0.jpg`
`01:08.33`	`Xinhuan`	`http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6382/wowscrnshot013008213217ve2.jpg`
`01:09.47`	`charon`	`http://vmp.ethz.ch/~thomas/timeplot-test.png`
`01:10.51`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60083 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Example.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - add an Example module so people can understand how to create tags and modifiers if they so want to.`
`01:11.04`	`charon`	`Arrowmaster: my client indeed sets locale to "enGB" (german client with english language pack)`
`01:11.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`01:11.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh`
`01:11.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`mis read`
`01:11.31`	`charon`	`<Arrowmaster> im not sure but i think GetCVar("locale") might be set to "enGB" for european english clients`
`01:11.39`	`charon`	`my config.wtf has: SET locale "enGB"`
`01:12.03`	`ckknight_`	`GetLocale() == "enUS"; LOCALE_enGB = true, GetCVar("locale") == "enGB", afaik`
`01:12.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i think the cvar locale is what the client uses for switching`
`01:12.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`but realmList is still better`
`01:13.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can have other languages on the US client, all you have to do is copy them over to the data folder from an EU client, and remove them before patching since it will bitch that the patch doesnt contain the locale files`
`01:14.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`need to try it with one of the asian locales`
`01:14.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`or does anybody know where to get the russian ones?`
`01:15.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`they don't exist yet`
`01:16.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's not been released, yet =)`
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`01:24.41`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60084 10kgPanels/kgPanels.toc: kgPanels: remove unused references`
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`01:28.00`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60085 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.toc Modules/Example.lua):`
`01:28.00`	`CIA-9`	`LibDogTag-2.0 - update Example module to be less confusing`
`01:28.00`	`CIA-9`	`- add LibDruidMana-1.0 and LibBabble-Spell-3.0 to optionaldeps`
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`01:28.43`	`CIA-9`	`03zuno * r60086 10UnitActionBars2/SpellAction.lua:`
`01:28.43`	`CIA-9`	`UnitActionBars2:`
`01:28.44`	`CIA-9`	`- Fixed problem with rank retrieval for unranked spells.`
`01:29.52`	`CIA-9`	`03nargiddley 07Beta * r60087 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua:`
`01:29.52`	`CIA-9`	`Ace3 - AceConfigCmd:`
`01:29.52`	`CIA-9`	`- Implement type = 'color'`
`01:32.51`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60088 10Routes/Data.lua: Routes: Collapse data tables.`
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`01:35.42`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60089 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - run :PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED() when changing config mode, so that everything updates properly`
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`01:48.36`	`Xinhuan`	`is that the last of the ace3 jira tickets Nargiddley?`
`01:48.58`	`nevcairiel`	`someone moved AceTab to RC .. :P`
`01:49.11`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`01:49.19`	`Nargiddley`	`not quite`
`01:49.32`	`Xinhuan`	`what remains to do?`
`01:50.05`	`nevcairiel`	`the last open ticket in beta was fixed with the commits. there is still one TODO in ConfigCmd iirc`
`01:50.21`	`Xinhuan`	`so RC within a day? :))))`
`01:50.48`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60090 10PitBull/ (Banzai/Banzai.lua PitBull.toc embeds.xml libs/): PitBull_Banzai - upgrade to LibBanzai-2.0 from Banzai-1.1`
`01:50.51`	`nevcairiel`	`actually, we're still alpha, so what comes next is Beta. we name branches as the target of the development :P`
`01:51.07`	`kenlyric`	`Xyphor\|AFK: you seem to have removed the mana/rage/energy option from the main display choices. It's there in the Stat lines, but not for the main "type" option`
`01:51.14`	`Xinhuan`	`pfft`
`01:51.17`	`Xinhuan`	`you know what i mean hehe`
`01:51.40`	`nevcairiel`	`but yeah, when the stuff gets fixed, we might as well go beta`
`01:51.46`	`nevcairiel`	`we'll talk and see`
`01:52.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`is it staying in branches after it goes beta?`
`01:52.18`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, 3 am again, i'm off to bed`
`01:52.39`	`nevcairiel`	`we'll see about that, not sure yet`
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`01:52.52`	`Xinhuan`	`i think it'll be good if we can coordinate the release of several ace3 addons at the same time as it goes beta`
`01:57.41`	`Antiarc`	`http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/01/news/companies/exxon_earnings/index.htm?cnn=yes`
`01:57.44`	`Antiarc`	`Man.`
`01:57.45`	`Antiarc`	`MAN.`
`01:57.50`	`Antiarc`	`I am so glad I don't drive to work.`
`01:58.14`	`CIA-9`	`03nargiddley 07Beta * r60091 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua:`
`01:58.14`	`CIA-9`	`Ace3 - AceConfigCmd:`
`01:58.14`	`CIA-9`	`- Implement type = 'keybinding'`
`01:59.58`	`Xinhuan`	`hwo does that work narg`
`02:00.04`	`Xinhuan`	`in slash commands`
`02:00.27`	`Nargiddley`	`give it the binding name`
`02:00.44`	`Nargiddley`	`CTRL-A or NUMPAD4 or whatever`
`02:01.01`	`Xinhuan`	`ah`
`02:01.08`	`Xinhuan`	`so it isn't too intuitive, but it works`
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`02:05.09`	`RLD_osx`	`are there any ace mods like the old target anything. you didn't need to be a a group or raid to show a target marker over your target.`
`02:05.18`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
`02:05.25`	`RLD_osx`	`bleh`
`02:05.47`	`Xinhuan`	`answer is: not possible`
`02:06.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`my friend just made an insane shiv macro`
`02:06.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`#showtooltip [nomodifier] Shiv; [modifier:alt] item:22054; [modifier:ctrl] item:9186; [modifier:shift] item:22055`
`02:06.21`	`Xinhuan`	`what are those items?`
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`02:06.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`equipslot [modifier:alt] 17 item:33298;[modifier:ctrl] 17 item:31958; [modifier:shift] 17 item:28310; [nomodifier] 17 item:32027`
`02:06.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`cast shiv`
`02:07.05`	`Xinhuan`	`oh would poison items`
`02:07.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`02:07.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`for changing poisons`
`02:07.42`	`Xinhuan`	`tell him he can shorten all the "modifier" into "mod"`
`02:07.47`	`Xinhuan`	`and his macro would look better`
`02:07.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`02:07.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`forgot about that one`
`02:08.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`its at 254/255 right now`
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`02:08.30`	`saim`	`hai`
`02:08.32`	`Xinhuan`	`[nomod] works too`
`02:09.10`	`Xinhuan`	`and technically, you can remove the [mod:shift] from the end of the first line`
`02:09.17`	`Xinhuan`	`because it is redundant if it fails the first 3 tests`
`02:09.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`so true`
`02:09.30`	`Xinhuan`	`and similarly for the second line, [nomod] at the end is also redundant`
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`02:09.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`maybe if i can shorten this up enough he will add btn:1 btn:2 checks in`
`02:09.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`and make it even bigger`
`02:09.55`	`Xinhuan`	`:o`
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`02:10.25`	`saim`	`how r u`
`02:10.39`	`Xinhuan`	`i m fine`
`02:11.48`	`saim`	`what r u doing`
`02:12.16`	`Xinhuan`	`reading irc chat`
`02:12.40`	`saim`	`ya i no`
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`02:14.55`	`saim`	`whear r u live`
`02:15.57`	`kenlyric`	`translation file not found error`
`02:15.57`	`saim`	`byyyyyy`
`02:16.05`	`saim`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`02:16.09`	`Chompers`	`byeeeee`
`02:16.12`	`Chompers`	`aww he left`
`02:16.29`	`Chompers`	`all he wanted was a little bit of cybering, you heartless bastards`
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`02:19.27`	`CIA-9`	`kgPanelsConfig:`
`02:19.27`	`CIA-9`	`- Okay, so I do need the ace3gui :)`
`02:19.27`	`CIA-9`	`- testing option table layout`
`02:19.27`	`CIA-9`	`- added guideFrame placeholder`
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`02:32.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`~seen ominous`
`02:32.07`	`purl`	`ominous <n=Ominous@85-210-17-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 68d 6h 51m 31s ago, saying: 'haha i got an e-mail today from someone ordering me to bring ClassTimer upto date by upgrading it to use Rock'.`
`02:32.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`nice last msg, but where the hell is the guy :D`
`02:32.50`	`Xinhuan`	`somewhere on Earth`
`02:33.01`	`Xinhuan`	`(yes, that is a technically correct but useless answer)`
`02:33.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`I love those`
`02:33.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`he made Cartographer_Data, but it seems it's missing Terocone from SMV for quite some time`
`02:34.20`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60095 10CowTip/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: CowTip_HealthBar - hook GameTooltipStatusBar's OnShow to hide immediately`
`02:34.50`	`Xinhuan`	`since when are there terocones in SMV?`
`02:35.24`	`Tifi`	`since BC came out i'd say`
`02:35.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`indeed`
`02:35.40`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm, wowhead data may not have them`
`02:36.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`they must be actively pruning them, then, because I've been using their uploader since day one of BC, too`
`02:37.02`	`Xinhuan`	`because on wowhead, i see that they only have terocone data in terokkar forest`
`02:37.03`	`Gnarfoz`	`also: no, old revs (-12000 revs from now) do contain Terocone in SMV`
`02:37.04`	`Xinhuan`	`and no other zone`
`02:37.17`	`Xinhuan`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22789`
`02:37.25`	`Xinhuan`	`see the "Gathered From" tab`
`02:37.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, I bet on intentional purging`
`02:38.01`	`Xinhuan`	`well go report to #wowhead`
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`02:43.43`	`Gnarfoz`	`Xinhuan: already there ;)`
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`02:44.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`here, I'm more interested in getting my hands on the dataminer he used, because updates have been... nonexistant`
`02:47.45`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60096 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua Fade/Fade.lua): CowTip - don't have fade conflict with show tooltips`
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`02:56.35`	`Hell-Razor`	`anybody here use bongos2`
`02:59.04`	`Tifi`	`+`
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`03:03.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight_: had any reports about Cartographer switching to "borderless" mode, i.e. full transparency for the border? (likely some Look'n'Feel settings messed up)`
`03:03.30`	`ckknight_`	`no, but there's an option for that`
`03:03.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`well, you've got two of them, now ;D`
`03:04.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`just happened to me as well as to a friend :\`
`03:04.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`happened on closing cartographer, for me`
`03:06.49`	`Gnarfoz`	`again oO I didn't touch anything! :D`
`03:07.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`also, the Transparency slider doesn't do anything`
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`03:12.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight_: seems to happen when closing Cartographer via the X button in the top-right corner instead of by key binding`
`03:13.00`	`Killmore`	`yep`
`03:13.03`	`Killmore`	`I have the same problem`
`03:13.22`	`Killmore`	`I have to close the map with the macro "M"`
`03:13.38`	`Silowyi`	`I need two things`
`03:13.43`	`Silowyi`	`1. replacement for SWLog`
`03:14.04`	`Silowyi`	`2. a DPS meter that allows me to track per fight as well as per session.`
`03:14.12`	`Silowyi`	`any suggestions?`
`03:14.20`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight_: and, once that's happened, it totally ignores the transparency slider in the Look'N'Feel options`
`03:14.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`Silowyi: WWS? ^^`
`03:14.35`	`Silowyi`	`(preferably one that syncs with common dps meters)`
`03:14.43`	`Silowyi`	`:P`
`03:14.52`	`Silowyi`	`wouldn't I have to parse that after the fact?`
`03:14.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`yes`
`03:15.16`	`Silowyi`	`The above... real tme in game`
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`03:15.30`	`Gnarfoz`	`I don't know what SWLog does that SW_Stats doesn't, but I like Recount and Violation for ingame dmg meters`
`03:16.10`	`Silowyi`	`swlog lets you pick any source, target, or damage type, etc...`
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`03:16.25`	`Cryect`	`Silowyi heh Relog kinda works like SWLog but I sure as hell don't recommend you use it (performance and memory issues I hadn't addressed before quiting WoW)`
`03:16.26`	`Silowyi`	`easily`
`03:16.36`	`Silowyi`	`and see retroactively what was done invovlving it`
`03:16.47`	`Cryect`	`I say just wait till 2.4`
`03:16.56`	`Cryect`	`Then you will have like 10 addons doing that stuff`
`03:17.04`	`Cryect`	`though thats 6-8 weeks away`
`03:17.30`	`kenlyric`	`someone's an optimist`
`03:17.33`	`CIA-9`	`03lilsparky * r60097 10Talented_DrDamage/: Talented_DrDamage: create trunk`
`03:18.13`	`Cryect`	`Well I hear the schedule is for Mid March for it to be released but I don't believe that actually :-p`
`03:19.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`hearsay I say!`
`03:19.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`;D`
`03:19.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`Cryect: you back, anyway? or just hanging out here ;)`
`03:19.41`	`Cryect`	`kinda back`
`03:20.40`	`Cryect`	`I'm playing WoW w/ GF and stuff too busy to raid etc`
`03:21.01`	`Cryect`	`though hopefully will raid a little this week to fix Recount syncing`
`03:21.21`	`Cryect`	`Frankly though most the times I come home from work I really not feeling in the mood to script something :-p`
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`03:27.41`	`harldephin`	`is there a way to reset/restart the graphics driver with a running windows shell?`
`03:27.43`	`HIghoS`	`!ar`
`03:28.03`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60098 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: updated example config screen`
`03:28.37`	`kenlyric`	`LibBabble doesn't have a translation for "Well Fed"?`
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`03:30.54`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`harldephin: /console gxrestart`
`03:31.06`	`harldephin`	`did i say windows?`
`03:31.30`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`uuh i kinda skimmed the last half hour of the backlog ;)`
`03:31.48`	`harldephin`	`hm`
`03:32.03`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`but why do you want to restart the gfx under windows?`
`03:32.33`	`kebinusan`	`If I had to guess, try changing your resolution`
`03:32.48`	`kebinusan`	`but probably not, you cant even change a driver w/o rebooting`
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`03:32.55`	`CIA-9`	`03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r60099 10Cartographer_Sidelist/Cartographer_Sidelist.lua:`
`03:32.55`	`CIA-9`	`Cartographer_Sidelist`
`03:32.55`	`CIA-9`	`- fix stupid typo that prevented proper note sorting`
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`03:33.32`	`harldephin`	`and what about emptying the graphics card's memory?`
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`03:34.03`	`harldephin`	`hm, don't wanna change the resolution. i'll try with disabling and reenabling SLI`
`03:34.14`	`kebinusan`	`you can always change it back`
`03:34.23`	`Corey`	`does anybody know an addon like alarttframe but without the huge bar saying their class`
`03:35.28`	`CIA-9`	`03lilsparky * r60100 10Talented_DrDamage/ (Talented_DrDamage.lua Talented_DrDamage.toc):`
`03:35.28`	`CIA-9`	`Talented_DrDamage:`
`03:35.28`	`CIA-9`	`- initial commit`
`03:38.22`	`harldephin`	`i hate to re-arrange icons, resize bars or windows, after the desktop resolution changes.`
`03:39.14`	`RaydenUni`	`why did they increase the chance to be dazed when hit from behind?`
`03:39.21`	`harldephin`	`but switching SLI off and on seems to have worked to "reset" the memory (or whatever)`
`03:39.30`	`Corey`	`or something else that adds a focus frame without changin the default frames?`
`03:42.01`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`03:42.02`	`Xinhuan`	`[2008/02/03 11:40:58-5476-x1]: invalid key to 'next':`
`03:42.02`	`Xinhuan`	<in C code>: in function `(for generator)'
`03:42.02`	`Xinhuan`	Routes\Routes.lua:758: in function `UpgradeStorageFormat1'
`03:42.17`	`Xinhuan`	`that is what happens when you insert a new key to the table you are iterating over >.<`
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`03:47.07`	`RaydenUni`	`oh wtf`
`03:47.17`	`RaydenUni`	`abandoning a quest now deletes all the items you were collecting for the quest?`
`03:48.06`	`RaydenUni`	`there is that one quest in tanaris where you have to collect 8 samples from 3 different mobs in 2 hours`
`03:48.10`	`durcyn`	`only for the past year or so.`
`03:48.22`	`RaydenUni`	`i collected a bunch and then ran out of time, so i collected the rest and then went to restart the quest`
`03:48.25`	`RaydenUni`	`it deleted all the samples`
`03:48.26`	`Kivin`	`longer than that. that was the case prior to when i left wow in oct '06`
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`03:49.45`	`Corey`	`anyone got any ideas about a mod that does that?`
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`03:50.52`	`Primer`	`damn`
`03:51.14`	`Primer`	`my 9 year old kid discovered my compass points for W and E were reversed`
`03:51.20`	`Primer`	`in FlightHUD`
`03:51.57`	`Primer`	`hrmm, can't commit`
`03:52.10`	`Silowyi`	`lol`
`03:52.13`	`Silowyi`	`I'm not even that good`
`03:52.15`	`Silowyi`	`Flight HUD?`
`03:52.26`	`Primer`	`svn: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/550f382a-d20b-11dc-8228-f57311b49adc': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.wowace.com)`
`03:52.40`	`Primer`	`Silowyi: it's in SVN, check it out (once I commit these 2 files)`
`03:53.06`	`Primer`	`I've never seen that error before`
`03:53.10`	`RaydenUni`	`lol, shapeshifted right before this 70 mage was about to polymorph me :D`
`03:53.14`	`RaydenUni`	`too bad he still killed me`
`03:53.18`	`Silowyi`	`do you have a screenshot?`
`03:53.25`	`Kivin`	`that usually means you're usinv svn.wowace.com instead of dev.wowace.com`
`03:53.33`	`Silowyi`	`a mage in eots tried to sheep me 5 times in a row`
`03:54.36`	`Silowyi`	`while I was in cat form`
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`03:54.55`	`CIA-9`	`03barfolomeu * r60101 10FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD1.tga FlightHUD2.tga): FlightHUD: Compass graphics were wrong. W and E were reversed.`
`03:54.59`	`RaydenUni`	`looks like ZF has very little for druids :(`
`03:55.11`	`Primer`	`argh, now eclipse fucking crashed`
`03:55.29`	`Primer`	`Silowyi: I can do better. A video! http://sh.nu/FlightHUD/`
`03:55.36`	`RaydenUni`	`no i didn't take a screenshot, what did you want a screenshot of?`
`03:55.41`	`RaydenUni`	`i have the combat log showing i'm immune to it`
`03:55.52`	`Primer`	`Kivin: hrmm, I could have sworn I co'd from the correct place`
`03:55.56`	`Primer`	`perhaps I didn't`
`03:56.11`	`Silowyi`	`was talking to Primer for that part Ray :)`
`03:56.16`	`Corey`	`nobody knows an addon that adds a focus frame without changing the default unit frames?`
`03:56.25`	`Silowyi`	`how come you never wipe in MH on the first wave, always on the 7th`
`03:56.37`	`RaydenUni`	`oh`
`03:57.16`	`Silowyi`	`Corey: A lot of unit frame addons have the option to use the blizzard default frames.`
`03:57.28`	`Silowyi`	`Corey: But in answer to your question, I don't know :(`
`03:57.59`	`Primer`	`WTF is going on`
`03:58.13`	`Primer`	`svn is on crack`
`03:59.00`	`Silowyi`	`does your Flight HUD show pitch?`
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`03:59.41`	`Primer`	`did you see the video?`
`03:59.49`	`Primer`	`it does...but it's fake`
`03:59.52`	`Primer`	`it's just the camera angle`
`04:00.16`	`Silowyi`	`hmm`
`04:00.51`	`Silowyi`	`which should be the same as pitch if you're using mouselook I'd think`
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`04:01.14`	`Primer`	`indeed it is`
`04:01.21`	`Primer`	`I cover that in the text on that page`
`04:01.27`	`Silowyi`	`ah`
`04:01.29`	`Primer`	`it's "good enough"`
`04:01.31`	`Silowyi`	`I should read more perhaps`
`04:01.34`	`Primer`	`:)`
`04:01.46`	`Primer`	`sec, having to co again`
`04:01.51`	`Primer`	`so I can commit these graphics`
`04:02.25`	`Primer`	`I don't get this`
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`04:02.35`	`Primer`	`it must have committed`
`04:02.41`	`Primer`	`bah, there's CIA`
`04:02.48`	`Primer`	`it committed`
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`04:03.04`	`Primer`	`must have finished before eclipse crashed`
`04:03.11`	`Silowyi`	`bad Primer`
`04:03.15`	`Silowyi`	`uncompressed avi = bad`
`04:03.19`	`Primer`	`heh`
`04:03.31`	`Primer`	`I just installed gamecam and made a video`
`04:03.37`	`Primer`	`I didn't transcode it`
`04:03.48`	`Primer`	`I need to make a newer one anyhow`
`04:03.49`	`Silowyi`	`oh nvm`
`04:03.52`	`Silowyi`	`it's not that bad`
`04:04.00`	`RaydenUni`	`do druids get the benefit of "chance on hit" weapon?`
`04:04.03`	`Silowyi`	`its just your server doesn't give the file size`
`04:04.13`	`Cryect`	`uncompressed AVI's are great`
`04:04.16`	`Silowyi`	`RaydenUni: no.`
`04:04.23`	`RaydenUni`	`that's too bad`
`04:04.24`	`Silowyi`	`but we do get the benefit of chance on hit trinkets :)`
`04:04.27`	`Silowyi`	`or armor`
`04:04.35`	`RaydenUni`	`i haven't found many druid weapons`
`04:04.38`	`Cryect`	`though of course you should be using huffyuv or alparysoft but need lossless for editing`
`04:04.43`	`Silowyi`	`RaydenUni: what level?`
`04:04.45`	`RaydenUni`	`the staff that drops off the hound boss in SM with 40AP seems by far the best`
`04:04.47`	`RaydenUni`	`i'm 46`
`04:04.53`	`Cryect`	`there is no druid weapons at those levels`
`04:05.00`	`Silowyi`	`yeah`
`04:05.18`	`Cryect`	`you will get them from quests starting in HFP`
`04:06.02`	`RaydenUni`	`HFP?`
`04:06.25`	`RaydenUni`	`it just surprises me that the staff i got seems to be the only druid weapon i've seen in the game so far`
`04:07.08`	`Primer`	`hrmm, my server should give the file size...`
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`04:08.00`	`RaydenUni`	`what is HFP?`
`04:08.15`	`kenlyric`	`hellfire peninsula`
`04:08.22`	`Silowyi`	`druid weapons before lvl 60 are "of the tiger" or "of the monkey" green maces, heheh`
`04:10.45`	`Kivin`	`lua> t = {}; for i = 1, 50 do t[i] = true; t[40] = nil; print(#t)`
`04:10.46`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "t = {}; for i = 1, 50 do t[i] = true; t[40] = nil; print(#t)"]:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>'`
`04:10.53`	`Kivin`	`lua> t = {}; for i = 1, 50 do t[i] = true; end t[40] = nil; print(#t)`
`04:10.54`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: 50`
`04:11.23`	`Xinhuan`	`if you nil out a second value next to 40, it'll report an incorrect value`
`04:12.00`	`Kivin`	`lua> local t = {}; for i = 1, 1000 do t[i] = true; end for i = 90, 130 do t[i] = nil end print(#t)`
`04:12.00`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: 1000`
`04:12.03`	`Kivin`	`really?`
`04:12.20`	`Xinhuan`	`well depensd on how the table is constructed`
`04:12.28`	`Kivin`	`It's not reliable, then, eh?`
`04:12.45`	`Xinhuan`	`#t will return a number where t[n] is non-nil and t[n+1] is nil`
`04:12.57`	`Kivin`	`then why did that still report 1k`
`04:13.12`	`Xinhuan`	`because t[1000] is non-nil and t[1001] is nil`
`04:13.24`	`Kivin`	`so is 89 and 90`
`04:13.24`	`Xinhuan`	`so it could just have equally likely reported 89`
`04:13.30`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah so it can choose any to return`
`04:13.35`	`Kivin`	`fun`
`04:13.50`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> local t = {}; for i = 1, 1000 do t[i] = true; end t[2000] = true; print(#t)`
`04:13.51`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 1000`
`04:13.54`	`Xinhuan`	`see?`
`04:13.59`	`Kivin`	`I want to be able to store stuff by ordinal value and nil out stuff without sliding subsequent entries down`
`04:14.13`	`Xinhuan`	`then you must use pairs() to iterate over it`
`04:14.24`	`Kivin`	`boo`
`04:14.25`	`Kivin`	`thanks`
`04:14.25`	`Xinhuan`	`or internally store a maxN value and iterate from 1 to maxN`
`04:14.37`	`Kivin`	`yeah, that's what I was thinking`
`04:15.21`	`Kivin`	`will t.maxN override the behavior of #t or table.getn?`
`04:15.45`	`Xinhuan`	`t.maxN is just a table key you define`
`04:15.52`	`Kivin`	`kk`
`04:15.55`	`Xinhuan`	`it has nothing to do with #t or table.getn()`
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`04:16.10`	`Primer`	`If I swap out an image I have to completely restart wow, right?`
`04:16.29`	`Xinhuan`	`table.setn() and table.getn() uses some internal registry inside lua, and this is deprecated, so dont' ever use it`
`04:16.53`	`Kivin`	`Mr. Knight, I'm getting recursion tables when I change profiles twice in rock config. No writing is occuring to my db.profile in OnProfileDisable/Enable`
`04:17.02`	`Xinhuan`	`in practice, you really want to use pairs()`
`04:17.13`	`Xinhuan`	`because your maxN value may become inaccurate over time`
`04:17.26`	`Kivin`	`it's hard to tell yet, but it feels like i'm getting NewDB = { OldDB = { OlderDB = { OlderOlderDB } } } }`
`04:18.19`	`Xinhuan`	`if you have a table from t[1] to t[10] and you nil out 7,8,9, maxN is still 10, but if you nil out 10, you need to make a loop to countdownwards from 10 to find the next maxN`
`04:18.24`	`Xinhuan`	`that would be accurate`
`04:18.32`	`Kivin`	`right`
`04:19.00`	`Kivin`	`well, if i nil something in the middle of the table, i both don't want to slide values down nor do i want to fill in that hole at a later date`
`04:19.15`	`Kivin`	`so a table value that defines the size should be adequate`
`04:19.23`	`Kivin`	`it'll only ever grow, never get smaller`
`04:19.29`	`Xinhuan`	`then maybe you shouldn't use nil`
`04:19.58`	`Xinhuan`	`you should just change the value to something like -1 or ""`
`04:19.58`	`Xinhuan`	`to indicate that it is no longer valid`
`04:19.58`	`Xinhuan`	`then #t will still work`
`04:20.04`	`Kivin`	`hmm`
`04:20.08`	`Kivin`	`that gives me something to consider`
`04:20.10`	`Xinhuan`	`say you want to nil out t[9], instead of doing t[9] = nil, you can do t[9] = false`
`04:20.20`	`Kivin`	`right`
`04:20.26`	`Xinhuan`	`then when you loop over t[], you can check "if t[i] then"`
`04:20.40`	`Xinhuan`	`so if its not false, it is some valid value`
`04:20.40`	`Kivin`	`which i'm already doing since the table can have holes in it`
`04:23.14`	`CIA-9`	`03barfolomeu * r60102 10FlightHUD/FlightHUD.lua:`
`04:23.14`	`CIA-9`	`FlightHUD: Add compass center hash image.`
`04:23.14`	`CIA-9`	`Add variable for offset and change said offset so it's more accurate.`
`04:26.05`	`Kivin`	`Here's another one for you. Does the incremental garbage collector in Lua reclaim islands?`
`04:26.15`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`04:26.18`	`Kivin`	`awsome`
`04:26.36`	`Silowyi`	`our tank takes 4 consecutive crushing blows`
`04:26.41`	`Silowyi`	`over 7 seconds`
`04:26.47`	`Silowyi`	`with no other hits taken`
`04:26.49`	`Kivin`	`I read some literature on Lua's GC a good while back but had too many things going through my head to absorb what i read about islands. I couldn't remember if it did or not`
`04:26.51`	`Xinhuan`	`nice random number generator Silowyi`
`04:26.58`	`Silowyi`	`and claims that he had shield block up`
`04:27.05`	`Kivin`	`Our kara tank likes to claim the RNG is always against him`
`04:27.07`	`Xinhuan`	`prove him wrong with Expiration`
`04:27.12`	`Xinhuan`	`or Recount`
`04:27.40`	`Xinhuan`	`2 days ago, our tank died on zuljin, and Expiration showed the boss parried his attack TWICE in 1.5 seconds`
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`04:27.57`	`Xinhuan`	`that was pretty gay`
`04:28.09`	`Silowyi`	`I don't get it`
`04:28.22`	`Silowyi`	`why would the boss parrying him kill him?`
`04:28.31`	`Xinhuan`	`if a boss parries an attack, it resets his swing timer, meaning he does a melee swing attack immediately`
`04:28.41`	`Kivin`	`doesn't it reduce the swing timer by 40% or something?`
`04:28.41`	`Xinhuan`	`so if he parries twice, its 2 additional attacks - straight away`
`04:28.45`	`Xinhuan`	`no lol`
`04:28.50`	`Kivin`	`erm`
`04:28.55`	`Xinhuan`	`basically, you never want to have melee attacking the boss from in front - ever`
`04:28.59`	`Xinhuan`	`especially pets`
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`04:29.22`	`Xinhuan`	`its a "mob and NPC-only mechanic"`
`04:29.34`	`Xinhuan`	`if they parry, they get a free attack on the tank`
`04:30.18`	`Silowyi`	`combat log shows that he didn't use shield block for a full 30 seconds`
`04:30.24`	`Recluse`	`i dunno what happened but bEQL is flipping out on me lol. del sv & reinstall not working. guess another mod doesn't play nice or something`
`04:30.56`	`kebinusan`	`how do you open the escape menu w/o escape`
`04:31.05`	`kebinusan`	`like if you unbound escape`
`04:31.23`	`Recluse`	`micro menu?`
`04:31.31`	`Cryect`	`<Xinhuan> its a "mob and NPC-only mechanic"`
`04:31.34`	`Cryect`	`its nt mob only`
`04:31.34`	`kebinusan`	`is there a slash command`
`04:31.37`	`Cryect`	`not*`
`04:31.42`	`kebinusan`	`````````````
`04:31.45`	`Cryect`	`thats why parry rating is more expensive than dodge rating`
`04:31.47`	`kebinusan`	`err sorry bout that`
`04:31.55`	`Cryect`	`unless they altered it in 2.3`
`04:32.00`	`xyu`	`wow, someone's hunter pet has the same name as me. And it's messing up my damage meters, apparently i'm just a pet`
`04:32.01`	`Cryect`	`which hell I have no idea maybe they did`
`04:32.06`	`xyu`	`and the hunter is doing 2500 dps`
`04:32.08`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm not sure if it works on players really`
`04:32.16`	`Xinhuan`	`i thought its mob-only`
`04:32.17`	`Cryect`	`it did last time it was tested before I quit`
`04:32.56`	`xyu`	`Is there any way that i can get my meters to work correctly if a pet has the same name as me`
`04:33.07`	`Silowyi`	`So I have a mod`
`04:33.13`	`Silowyi`	`I don't know which one`
`04:33.28`	`Codayus`	`xyu: Wait till 2.4, probably. Otherwise, no.`
`04:33.32`	`Silowyi`	`but when I repair using the gold "pay from guild bank" button`
`04:33.37`	`Silowyi`	`it repairs using my own funs`
`04:33.38`	`Cryect`	`well.... if you implement your damage meters correctly yes`
`04:33.41`	`Silowyi`	`funds`
`04:34.00`	`Cryect`	`that was something I meant to get around to in Recount and then I quit :-p`
`04:34.01`	`xyu`	`well recount isn't showing them correctly, (the one i use) but someone's "Damage Meters" is correctly showing`
`04:34.03`	`Silowyi`	`which mod might that be?`
`04:34.13`	`Recluse`	`kebinusan: /script ShowUIPanel(GameMenuFrame);`
`04:34.33`	`Cryect`	`Basically I need to be looking at the event and you can determine if its a pet or player by that`
`04:34.46`	`xyu`	`ah`
`04:34.47`	`Codayus`	`Hm? Is there a way for a 3rd party to distinguish? Ah...events, hm.`
`04:34.58`	`Cryect`	`yeah pets are in a different event`
`04:35.26`	`Codayus`	`Won't stop problems with 2 pets with the same name, I suppose.`
`04:35.31`	`Cryect`	`Right`
`04:35.33`	`Cryect`	`well...`
`04:35.36`	`Cryect`	`there is another way`
`04:35.41`	`Cryect`	`because whoever's pet it is`
`04:35.49`	`Cryect`	`has a special event for them`
`04:35.56`	`Cryect`	`so they can properly handle it`
`04:36.24`	`Cryect`	`I think damagemeters correctly handles them if they are your pet`
`04:36.42`	`Cryect`	`I seem to recall thats the one that does it right`
`04:37.07`	`Codayus`	`Wouldn't want for a 3rd party though, yeah?`
`04:37.23`	`Cryect`	`right so you have to communicate etc`
`04:37.39`	`Cryect`	`there is actually things in recount setup to let it be done`
`04:37.42`	`RaydenUni`	`augh`
`04:37.47`	`RaydenUni`	`huntards deserve their name`
`04:37.52`	`RaydenUni`	`i hate having to compete for aggro with pets`
`04:37.55`	`Recluse`	`kebinusan: did that one work for ya?`
`04:38.03`	`Cryect`	`just never finished the code for the pet part (the code is used for lifeblooms & earthshields to correctly reassign the heals from them)`
`04:38.14`	`RaydenUni`	`this hunter keeps pulling with his pet`
`04:38.17`	`Cryect`	`haha tell the hunter to turn off autogrowl`
`04:40.11`	`RaydenUni`	`he pulled like 8 guys with his pet right now`
`04:40.13`	`RaydenUni`	`caused us to wipe`
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`04:44.09`	`Cryect`	`his pet set to aggressive or something?`
`04:45.22`	`Silowyi`	`hunter pets in a raid setting is generally considered fail unless you're very good at micromanaging them`
`04:45.54`	`kebinusan`	`oh it was for a friend I just pasted it and she didnt say anything so I guess so`
`04:46.12`	`Silowyi`	`they tend to want to go "Behind" mobs, and they run faster than normal players, so even on defensive there's a good chance for accidental agro in close quarters. Also hunter pets will gladly stand in one place attacking a mob when its a very good time to move`
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`04:46.46`	`Silowyi`	`We've had hunter pet problems with adds on TK mobs before`
`04:47.21`	`Silowyi`	`and of course, everyone's favorite Q: "Why is the sheep target owning people?" A: "Pet's breaking it."`
`04:48.02`	`Silowyi`	`when our warlock first went SL for Leotheras, he didn't quite get it in his mind that his minion should have cleave turned off.`
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`04:48.36`	`Silowyi`	`that felguard must have cleaved 15 sheeped trash mobs on that run`
`04:51.14`	`Recluse`	`lol`
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`04:55.45`	`RaydenUni`	`i wish taurens were the black cats and not NE's`
`04:55.47`	`RaydenUni`	`they look cool`
`04:59.04`	`Estil`	`lol`
`04:59.32`	`Estil`	`yea, taurens get a cat with downs syndrom`
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`05:02.12`	`potemkin`	`are frames`
`05:02.14`	`potemkin`	`default shown`
`05:02.16`	`potemkin`	`when created in lua`
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`05:06.17`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60103 10Routes/ (8 files in 3 dirs):`
`05:06.17`	`CIA-9`	`Routes: Completely remove dependency on LibBabble-Zone-3.0. This change requires a slight change in storage format that will delete most existing routes in non-English game clients.`
`05:06.17`	`CIA-9`	`Routes will now perform internal SV cleanup.`
`05:06.17`	`CIA-9`	`Update embeds/externals/TOC.`
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`05:12.43`	`Wobin`	`What does the tauren travel form look like?`
`05:13.23`	`Lukian`	`same?`
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`05:15.59`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60104 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Simplify the zonekeys for option tables to the mapfile strings.`
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`05:19.55`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60105 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua:`
`05:19.55`	`CIA-9`	`PitBull`
`05:19.55`	`CIA-9`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`05:20.43`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4} for i, v in pairs(t) do print(v) end`
`05:20.43`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 1, 2, 3, 4`
`05:20.49`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4} for i, v in next do print(v) end`
`05:20.50`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: [string "t = {1, 2, 3, 4} for i, v in next do print(..."]:1: bad argument #1 to '(for generator)' (table expected, got nil)`
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`05:21.13`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4} for i, v in next, t, next(t) do print(v) end`
`05:21.14`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 2, 3, 4`
`05:21.51`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4} for i, v in next, t, nil do print(v) end`
`05:21.52`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 1, 2, 3, 4`
`05:22.01`	`CIA-9`	`03peragor * r60106 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua:`
`05:22.01`	`CIA-9`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`05:22.01`	`CIA-9`	`- Another bugfix. I have a bad habit of changing variable names but not doing search/replace on all old references.`
`05:23.37`	`Wobin`	`crazy`
`05:23.43`	`Wobin`	`60,000 commits`
`05:29.16`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60107 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Remove an unused local`
`05:30.05`	`Corey`	`anyone know a good unit frames thing that adds a focus frame but doesnt change the default blizzard ones or lets you keep them?`
`05:31.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Corey: there's an addon on wowi called "focusframe" or somesuch, that doese nothing but add a blizzard-style unit frame for focus. try that?`
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`05:33.35`	`Corey`	`awesome`
`05:33.38`	`Corey`	`sounds like what i want`
`05:33.55`	`Corey`	`i tried alarttframe but it added some weird huge bar saying their class`
`05:34.00`	`Corey`	`on target`
`05:34.27`	`ckknight_`	`I'm thinking about making a MobHealth library. To me, it seems odd to not have it as a proper library and instead expect users to download a separate addon and all...`
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`05:40.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight_: to be honest, I don't see either as being necessarily wrong. Having it as a standalone addon makes it pretty easy to opt in/out at will, as long as it has a good api. plus it has the advantage of working with blizz frames on its own.`
`05:41.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`but i can see the point of having it as a library in unit frame addons as well`
`05:42.16`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60108 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix a possible bug with config mode`
`05:42.33`	`CIA-9`	`03daviesh * r60109 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (4 files):`
`05:42.33`	`CIA-9`	`AtlasLoot:`
`05:42.33`	`CIA-9`	`- Commenced preparation for Atlas 1.11.0`
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`05:48.14`	`Xinhuan`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311216021&sid=1`
`05:48.16`	`Xinhuan`	`hahahaha`
`05:48.28`	`Xinhuan`	`i even like the "pls no negative comments i will not respond." at the very end`
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`05:49.16`	`kenlyric`	`spelling seems the least of his troubles`
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`05:53.56`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60111 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix issue where raidtarget clusters would not update until after reload`
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`05:58.28`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60112 10kgPanelsConfig/ (kgPanelsConfig.lua resize.tga): kgPanelsConfig: added more to example config`
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`06:07.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Xinhuan: oh god, i'm 99% sure that guy was in wowi-lounge earlier asking about a wow spellchecking addon :P`
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`06:09.14`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`06:09.17`	`Xinhuan`	`really`
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`06:10.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, like 30-40 minutes ago, you're there, check the logs :P`
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`06:28.49`	`syeren`	`ckknight :P?`
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`06:40.32`	`Fisker-`	`you SUCK`
`06:41.48`	`Fisker-`	`i mean it ckknight_ :o`
`06:42.16`	`Fisker-`	`oh`
`06:42.23`	`Fisker-`	`~seen ckknight_`
`06:42.25`	`purl`	`ckknight_ is currently on #norganna (9m 28s) #wowace (9m 28s), last said: 'I'm thinking about making a MobHealth library. To me, it seems odd to not have it as a proper library and instead expect users to download a separate addon and all...'.`
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`06:46.41`	`Fisker-`	`it's super effective!`
`06:47.01`	`ckknight`	`you caught a ckknight!`
`06:47.05`	`Fisker-`	`yay`
`06:47.17`	`Fisker-`	`the tooltip fix you made`
`06:47.25`	`Fisker-`	`Doesn't seem to work with Grid`
`06:48.07`	`ckknight`	`which tooltip fix?`
`06:48.41`	`Fisker-`	`mine`
`06:48.47`	`Fisker-`	`http://jira.wowace.com/browse/COW-1`
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`06:51.48`	`syeren`	`ckknight_ :P`
`06:51.57`	`ckknight__`	`sigh`
`06:51.58`	`syeren`	`Nice to see you fixing and optimizing your addons / libs again!`
`06:52.05`	`syeren`	`Thanks I guess :p`
`06:52.11`	`ckknight__`	`syeren: and documenting and all`
`06:52.18`	`ckknight__`	`DogTag has ingame documentation now`
`06:52.21`	`ckknight__`	`I'm proud of that`
`06:52.26`	`ckknight__`	`Fisker-: it seemed to work with PitBull :-(`
`06:52.40`	`syeren`	`I'm trying to work out if it would be possible to make Pitbull have a Highlight when the unit has Weakened Soul.`
`06:52.53`	`syeren`	`I noticed that when I used X-Pearl, was quite nice!`
`06:53.25`	`ckknight__`	`X-Perl`
`06:53.26`	`Fisker-`	`it does ckknight_ :o`
`06:53.55`	`ckknight`	`syeren: hrm, currently no, and that seems tough to do`
`06:54.03`	`syeren`	`Ah okay :)`
`06:54.10`	`syeren`	`At the moment I'm using DogTag to do it.`
`06:54.11`	`ckknight`	`I suggest filing a jira ticket`
`06:54.25`	`syeren`	`Although I was puzzled as to why i couldn't put my Renew Dogtag right after the [name] tag.`
`06:54.29`	`syeren`	`Seemed to bug out :<`
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`06:54.37`	`ckknight`	`if it bugs out, you tell me`
`06:54.48`	`syeren`	`Let me load up the game :)`
`06:54.53`	`ckknight`	`I'm prone to fixing things`
`06:55.58`	`syeren`	`[Name] [Outline][HasAura(Renew) ? Text((R)):Green:Append(\|\|)]`
`06:56.09`	`syeren`	`Should that work?`
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`06:57.14`	`ckknight`	`no`
`06:57.19`	`ckknight`	`don't do Text((R))`
`06:57.26`	`ckknight`	`do Text(R):Paren`
`06:57.37`	`syeren`	`I didn't make the tag, I just copied it from the thread :p`
`06:58.23`	`syeren`	`[Outline][HasAura(Renew) ? Text(R):Paren:Green:Append(\|\|)]`
`06:58.27`	`syeren`	`Finished result or?`
`06:58.32`	`syeren`	`>_<`
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`07:03.36`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`07:03.38`	`ckknight`	`should work`
`07:03.44`	`xyu`	`hmm can't figure out why my wowequip fire dmg isn't matching my in-game spell dmg ><`
`07:04.30`	`xyu`	`n/m found it :D`
`07:05.04`	`syeren`	`[Name] [AFKDND:Angle] [Outline][HasAura(Renew) ? Text(R):Paren:Green:Append(\|\|)] doesn't work still :(`
`07:05.06`	`syeren`	`So close!`
`07:07.46`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60113 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip_Text - Update locale koKR`
`07:08.41`	`syeren`	`It just puts "Outline" after the Name at the moment ckknight :(`
`07:08.42`	`syeren`	`>_<`
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`07:09.11`	`Xinhuan`	`could be the \|\| screwing up`
`07:09.19`	`Xinhuan`	`\| is an escape character for wow`
`07:10.07`	`syeren`	`I have no idea what it does, I just copied it from the thread, and fixing it people's help!`
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`07:10.50`	`Xinhuan`	`people should prob make a new thread then`
`07:10.54`	`Xinhuan`	`if half the stuff on it doesn't work`
`07:11.06`	`syeren`	`It works when it's on it's own.`
`07:11.19`	`syeren`	`However I would like the (R) to appear next to their Name tag if possible.`
`07:11.30`	`syeren`	`But when I add it to the end of the Name Text, it just does the Outline thing :<`
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`07:31.56`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60114 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.lua Modules/DruidMana.lua):`
`07:31.56`	`CIA-9`	`LibDogTag-2.0 - add tag [IsMaxDruidMP]`
`07:31.56`	`CIA-9`	`- optimizations in the function creation code.`
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`07:47.34`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r60116 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Update code to work with the new Routes SV format.`
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`07:57.21`	`clad\|sleep`	`Is there an incomingheals lib that doesn't have stupidly assinine dependencies?`
`07:57.41`	`Xinhuan`	`like what?`
`07:57.48`	`clad\|sleep`	`Uhh any dependencies`
`07:57.54`	`Orionshock`	`ah.. there is one in the branches i think that has few dependancys`
`07:58.24`	`clad\|sleep`	`Orionshock: any idea where?`
`07:58.56`	`Orionshock`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibHealComm-3.0/`
`07:59.07`	`Orionshock`	`looks like it's only dependancys is babble spell`
`07:59.34`	`clad\|sleep`	`now that I can get behind`
`07:59.50`	`Orionshock`	`TMI`
`07:59.54`	`Osstia\|mac`	`hehe`
`07:59.56`	`Orionshock`	`:P`
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`08:00.06`	`CIA-9`	`StatLogicLib:`
`08:00.06`	`CIA-9`	`- koKR local: IGNORE_ARMOR scan improved`
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`08:01.23`	`clad\|sleep`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:01.27`	`clad\|sleep`	`what exactly does that mean?`
`08:01.51`	`Xinhuan`	`not tpp sure`
`08:01.53`	`Xinhuan`	`too`
`08:02.46`	`kebinusan`	`If I were to bust out the tarot deck, Id think that means they want to see the size of incoming heals on people`
`08:02.53`	`Xinhuan`	`ok we have reworked GatherMate and Routes and removed the dependency on LibBabble-Zone-3.0`
`08:03.05`	`Xinhuan`	`would ppl like to checkout and test the latest versions? hehe`
`08:03.11`	`cladhaire`	`Xinhuan: got it`
`08:03.14`	`cladhaire`	`will i need to reimport?`
`08:03.18`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
`08:03.28`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60119 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:`
`08:03.28`	`CIA-9`	`StatLogicLib:`
`08:03.28`	`CIA-9`	`- koKR local: IGNORE_ARMOR fix`
`08:03.28`	`cladhaire`	`i'll check it out later today, if possible.`
`08:03.30`	`Xinhuan`	`if you use a non-enUS client, your routes will get deleted though`
`08:03.37`	`cladhaire`	`enGB`
`08:03.38`	`cladhaire`	`that's fine`
`08:03.38`	`Xinhuan`	`sinec the storage format changed`
`08:03.44`	`cladhaire`	`so i'll reimport :P`
`08:03.52`	`Xinhuan`	`you don't have to reimport anything hehe`
`08:03.59`	`Xinhuan`	`GatherMate storage format didn't change`
`08:04.07`	`Xinhuan`	`we only reworked it so it no longer uses LibBabble`
`08:04.20`	`Xinhuan`	`and it'll still work in any locale client`
`08:04.33`	`Xinhuan`	`can even log on different locale clients and still have it work`
`08:04.38`	`cladhaire`	`oh`
`08:04.42`	`cladhaire`	`my routes will get deleted`
`08:04.43`	`cladhaire`	`i mis-read`
`08:05.00`	`Xinhuan`	`you routes won't get deleted since its on enGB, i "upgraded" it hehe`
`08:05.27`	`cladhaire`	`oh`
`08:05.29`	`Xinhuan`	`basically Routes used to store your routes in tables where the zone key is a "english zone name"`
`08:05.30`	`cladhaire`	`well tbh i don't use routes`
`08:05.32`	`cladhaire`	`so i'm cool`
`08:05.38`	`Xinhuan`	`it now uses the mapfile string`
`08:05.51`	`cladhaire`	`what happens if they change?`
`08:05.56`	`cladhaire`	`not that that's extremely likely`
`08:06.00`	`Xinhuan`	`they haven't changed for 2.5 years, so`
`08:06.03`	`cladhaire`	`:P`
`08:06.05`	`cladhaire`	`just curious`
`08:06.11`	`Xinhuan`	`if it does, the worst is your routes gets nuked in that changed zone`
`08:06.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah the org one is still mispelled`
`08:06.13`	`cladhaire`	`perhaps i'll adopt your SV format for TomTom's rewrite`
`08:06.14`	`Xinhuan`	`and you get to recreate it`
`08:06.55`	`Xinhuan`	`the whole thing is based on how Astrolabe does it really`
`08:07.22`	`Xinhuan`	`to be independant of a libbabble`
`08:07.24`	`cladhaire`	`ah okay`
`08:07.30`	`Xinhuan`	`since the mapfile name is a constant across all clients`
`08:08.14`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:08.20`	`Orionshock`	`-.- interesting method....`
`08:09.43`	`Xinhuan`	`that's how it works in the real world too`
`08:09.43`	`cladhaire`	`to be fair, in my case`
`08:09.44`	`Xinhuan`	`consider the Sony DVD format`
`08:09.44`	`Xinhuan`	`vs the other one`
`08:09.44`	`cladhaire`	`i actually notified every single unit frame author before "publishing" my standard`
`08:09.44`	`Xinhuan`	`what is it hdtv?`
`08:09.44`	`Osstia\|mac`	`hddvd`
`08:09.44`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah`
`08:09.44`	`Xinhuan`	`i think sony is winning now`
`08:09.44`	`Osstia\|mac`	`yeah, it looks like its gona get accepted`
`08:10.01`	`Orionshock`	`cladhaire: didn't it get like a stamp of approval from soluken first? "Ya sure we can do that for ya to make this easier" ??`
`08:10.10`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`08:10.20`	`cladhaire`	`and my more general proposal was turned down`
`08:10.27`	`cladhaire`	`so I settled on the manual standard we have now`
`08:10.30`	`cladhaire`	`after letting everyone know`
`08:10.41`	`Xinhuan`	`standards are good, just like the GetMinimapShape() that a minimap addon should provide if it changes the shape`
`08:11.42`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm going to see if i can add in a "taboo area" implementation for Routes`
`08:11.52`	`Xinhuan`	`where the user can draw "taboo areas" where routes should not go into`
`08:12.04`	`cladhaire`	`make it a larger project`
`08:12.19`	`cladhaire`	`at least for azeroth :P`
`08:12.29`	`cladhaire`	`make an addon that helps calculate the non-traversable areas`
`08:12.31`	`Xinhuan`	`and subsequently also not add nodes into these taboo areas, so ppl can mark say "don't make routes in this netherwing ledge island" ;p`
`08:12.35`	`cladhaire`	`and use it in tsp :P`
`08:13.00`	`Xinhuan`	`if you provide me the map terrain data, i'll write a module for it using the standard A* algo`
`08:13.04`	`Xinhuan`	`then TSP it`
`08:13.12`	`Xinhuan`	`:D`
`08:13.13`	`Osstia\|mac`	`tsp?`
`08:13.15`	`cladhaire`	`between EJ`
`08:13.18`	`cladhaire`	`and Wowace`
`08:13.21`	`cladhaire`	`if you made an addon`
`08:13.25`	`cladhaire`	`people would help you provide it`
`08:13.33`	`cladhaire`	`slowly, but better than nothing`
`08:13.47`	`Xinhuan`	`the difficulty is in HOW to obtain height terrain data for every zone`
`08:14.01`	`cladhaire`	`i'm not talking about height`
`08:14.05`	`cladhaire`	`i'm talking about impassible terrain`
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`08:14.08`	`cladhaire`	`which is an easier probnlem`
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`08:14.26`	`cladhaire`	`again, less of a problem in outland`
`08:14.28`	`cladhaire`	`more so in azeroth`
`08:14.37`	`Xinhuan`	`TSP will be a nightmare on azeroth`
`08:14.48`	`Xinhuan`	`since i have to store the route between each pair of nodes`
`08:14.49`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`hmmm i wonder if you could grab the nomount/indoor flag and hook it to gather notes so you can define "outdoor nodes" only routes :X`
`08:15.22`	`Xinhuan`	`well if i add in a "taboo" area feature in ROutes, you would be able to draw a rectangle`
`08:15.31`	`Xinhuan`	`or actually, any shape even`
`08:15.48`	`Xinhuan`	`routes would not go thru this area`
`08:16.04`	`Xinhuan`	`the algo for determining if a point is inside a polygon or outside is straightforward`
`08:16.12`	`cladhaire`	`but it would nice to have some common areas :P`
`08:16.19`	`cladhaire`	`that no one can go through`
`08:16.36`	`Xinhuan`	`but the implementation will be tricky, especially the UI frontend`
`08:16.42`	`Xinhuan`	`now sure how to do it yet`
`08:16.44`	`Xinhuan`	`not*`
`08:18.28`	`Xinhuan`	`there's also issues with taboo areas since`
`08:18.37`	`Xinhuan`	`if i draw a taboo area that splits the map into half`
`08:18.43`	`Xinhuan`	`and its impossible for one half to reach the other half`
`08:18.51`	`Xinhuan`	`then it'll choke and die`
`08:19.08`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`then define a max dimension value? ;)`
`08:19.51`	`Osstia\|mac`	`are you looking to avoid flying through zones/areas? or just to avoid certain nodes?`
`08:19.59`	`Xinhuan`	`either / or`
`08:20.14`	`Xinhuan`	`the 2nd is easier to implement, since i only need to detemine if a node is inside or outside a polygon, to ignore it`
`08:20.22`	`Xinhuan`	`the flythru one is a lot harder as above`
`08:20.32`	`Osstia\|mac`	`yeah, seems that way`
`08:21.29`	`Osstia\|mac`	`the nly reason i could think to avoid an area for flying through might be faction based towns`
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`08:22.03`	`Kivin`	`that's the reason i recommended it in the first place. i don't want nodes crossing opposing towns`
`08:22.03`	`Osstia\|mac`	`in the case of like the netherwing ledge, i would just ignore the nodes`
`08:23.34`	`Xinhuan`	`tabooing nodes is easy, i dont' know if tabooing a route flying thru a polygon is doable yet though, i might have to think about this`
`08:23.58`	`Kivin`	`Of course it's doable. Perhaps just not practical.`
`08:24.30`	`Xinhuan`	`i could bias a route that flies thru a taboo zone to consider that edge as double distance`
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`08:24.40`	`Xinhuan`	`so its a lot less likely to choose that path`
`08:24.53`	`Xinhuan`	`but the 2-opt algo doesn't even look at that`
`08:27.58`	`_rane`	`is it possible to filter out the weapon buffs in pitbull?`
`08:28.51`	`_rane`	`nevermind, actually ;)`
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`08:30.48`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`9:30 am, no more chocolate, no sleep yet... decisions decisions, breakfast? coffee? shower? sleep?`
`08:34.25`	`Orionshock`	`FtH\|Daemona: breakfast, coffee shower then sleep`
`08:34.40`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`sounds counter-productive :/`
`08:34.54`	`Kivin`	`I'm going to go with sleep, shower, breakfast with coffee`
`08:36.15`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i think i roll with shower, breakfast, alot of coffee and sleep in 14 hours`
`08:36.26`	`Kivin`	`X_x`
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`08:37.45`	`Xinhuan`	`time for raiding again!`
`08:39.07`	`cncfanatics`	`who played on kazzak EU again ?`
`08:39.16`	`Fisker-`	`robotusch is fag`
`08:39.22`	`Fisker-`	`and plays on kazzak i think`
`08:39.25`	`Fisker-`	`also [Ammo] i think`
`08:39.33`	`cncfanatics`	`whats ammo's nick on kazzak ?`
`08:39.45`	`Xinhuan`	`i think its ammo ;p`
`08:40.10`	`cncfanatics`	`gnome warlock`
`08:40.13`	`cncfanatics`	`could very much be him :p`
`08:40.17`	`Fisker-`	`it is`
`08:40.31`	`[Ammo]`	`it is`
`08:40.38`	`[Ammo]`	`and ofcourse my paladin of dewm`
`08:40.44`	`[Ammo]`	`!c eu kazzak bubblehearth`
`08:40.46`	`ThraeBot`	`[Ammo]: Bubblehearth, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (45/11/5). 8217 HP; 9993 Mana; 188 mana regen; 95 mp5; 14229 Armour; 74.000 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 117 spell crit; 716 +spell dmg; 1795 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 44 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1364 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywss62 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okrqu ][ Updated: Sun Feb 3 03:49:32 2008 EST ]]`
`08:40.47`	`[Ammo]`	`his signature move pwns`
`08:40.52`	`cncfanatics`	`[Ammo]: there's a bounty on your head now !`
`08:40.55`	`cncfanatics`	`and it costed me 0c`
`08:41.00`	`[Ammo]`	`woot`
`08:41.02`	`[Ammo]`	`come get me`
`08:41.14`	`[Ammo]`	`there's a bounty on most of the BOON Control heads`
`08:41.16`	`[Ammo]`	`so that's fine`
`08:41.25`	`cncfanatics`	`there's some guys doing assassinations here now`
`08:41.30`	`cncfanatics`	`and their first 10 kills are free :p`
`08:41.34`	`cncfanatics`	`they record it too`
`08:41.45`	`[Ammo]`	`tell em to kill Katiechops`
`08:41.51`	`[Ammo]`	`he's my scottish mate :)`
`08:42.00`	`cncfanatics`	`can't :p`
`08:42.02`	`cncfanatics`	`free kills are over`
`08:42.04`	`cncfanatics`	`and cba to pay`
`08:42.08`	`[Ammo]`	`tsss`
`08:42.11`	`cncfanatics`	`ammo`
`08:42.14`	`cncfanatics`	`can you go login ?`
`08:42.15`	`[Ammo]`	`well good luck for them killing me`
`08:42.17`	`cncfanatics`	`so they can see where you are :p`
`08:42.23`	`[Ammo]`	`all I do on ammo is fly to raid instance and enter :)`
`08:42.31`	`[Ammo]`	`the rest of the time I spend on other characters ganking horde`
`08:42.41`	`cncfanatics`	`this might be ufn`
`08:42.43`	`cncfanatics`	`fun*`
`08:43.31`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`killing someone called bubblehearth might me hard indeed.`
`08:43.48`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
`08:43.50`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
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`08:44.19`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`!c eu destromath daemona`
`08:44.21`	`ThraeBot`	`FtH\|Daemona: Daemona, Level 70 Troll Rogue (19/42/0). 9104 HP; 3894 Armour; 2028 AP; 444.700 Melee DPS; 28.29% melee crit; 325 melee hit; 33.01% dodge;[[ TBR: 1531 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywzsvt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rsj3s ][ Updated: Sun Feb 3 03:53:07 2008 EST ]]`
`08:44.22`	`cncfanatics`	`its the gnome warlock the bounty is on`
`08:44.28`	`[Ammo]`	`ah the gnome lock`
`08:44.29`	`[Ammo]`	`pewpew`
`08:44.39`	`cncfanatics`	`what guild is BOON control anwyay ?`
`08:44.49`	`[Ammo]`	`ask people :p`
`08:44.51`	`[Ammo]`	`on the horde side`
`08:44.52`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`08:45.01`	`cncfanatics`	`I'm not the pvp type`
`08:45.03`	`[Ammo]`	`'bunch of ganking twats' 'goddamn assholes'`
`08:45.04`	`cncfanatics`	`and noone I know is either`
`08:45.05`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`its the noob control !`
`08:45.05`	`cncfanatics`	`so tell me`
`08:45.05`	`[Ammo]`	`;)`
`08:45.10`	`cncfanatics`	`raiders ? :o`
`08:45.16`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`08:45.18`	`[Ammo]`	`but we like unfair pvp`
`08:45.25`	`[Ammo]`	`get em while they're down`
`08:45.39`	`cncfanatics`	`heh, same here`
`08:45.49`	`cncfanatics`	`even though our guild is 5 days old :p`
`08:46.03`	`[Ammo]`	`the best part is getting them low while on a mob`
`08:46.08`	`[Ammo]`	`and letting the mob finish em off for 10% dura`
`08:46.13`	`cncfanatics`	`lol`
`08:46.40`	`[Ammo]`	`as a sideproject we raid :)`
`08:46.48`	`Fisker-`	`there was some guy who acused us of corpsecamping`
`08:47.05`	`cncfanatics`	`Fisker-: you aren't on kazzak are you ?`
`08:47.08`	`Fisker-`	`nah`
`08:47.10`	`Fisker-`	`ravencrest`
`08:47.12`	`cncfanatics`	`phew`
`08:47.23`	`cncfanatics`	`btw, can someone tell me whats wrong with my iterator ?`
`08:47.25`	`Fisker-`	`and he kept yelling that our guild were for people less than 10 years old :P`
`08:47.37`	`Fisker-`	`and we found out he was a druid`
`08:47.52`	`Fisker-`	`so i pretty found any plausible druid and started ganking them`
`08:48.06`	`Fisker-`	`Then one day he was like "Omg you ganker" and then we knew who he was :D`
`08:48.07`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/889900 whats wrong with this ?`
`08:48.08`	`buubot`	`cncfanatics: The paste 889900 has been copied to http://erxz.com/pb/6802`
`08:48.21`	`Fisker-`	`And we corpsecamped him for 3 days and haven't seen him online since`
`08:48.33`	`cncfanatics`	`lol`
`08:49.14`	`Fisker-`	`In the end we were standing in the honor hold inn because he kept getting a little further away from the original spot :P`
`08:49.40`	`cncfanatics`	`Fisker-: I'd have just logged an alt personaly`
`08:49.44`	`cncfanatics`	`and checked again in 5h or so`
`08:50.08`	`Fisker-`	`well he might have done that as well :P`
`08:50.36`	`cncfanatics`	`most probably`
`08:50.53`	`Fisker-`	`he's also playing a lot at night now`
`08:51.10`	`CIA-9`	`03peragor * r60120 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:`
`08:51.10`	`CIA-9`	`GridStatusHealer:`
`08:51.10`	`CIA-9`	`- The status range limit is set to false now. This should fix the orphaned priorities. Especially in battlegrounds.`
`08:51.10`	`CIA-9`	`- Tweaked the incoming heal weights.`
`08:51.18`	`cncfanatics`	`[Ammo]: whats wrong with my iterator ? (a)`
`08:51.29`	`Fisker-`	`but basically he shut up and stopped logging in at daytimes :P`
`08:51.41`	`Fisker-`	`the funny thing`
`08:51.56`	`Fisker-`	`Everytime we saw him online we went to hellfire peninsula and asked if everyone had seen him`
`08:52.12`	`Fisker-`	`and everytime there was 1-3 persons saying "That fucking corpsecamper?"`
`08:52.33`	`Fisker-`	`except one who was level 52 and still won over him even though he was level 60 at the time :P`
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`08:54.38`	`CIA-9`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`08:54.38`	`CIA-9`	`- Disable if Grid not found.`
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`08:58.18`	`_rane`	`is it possible to apply poison on a weapon with a macro?`
`08:58.32`	`_rane`	`on a weapon that's not equipped`
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`09:02.36`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60122 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: Fix world map icons not drawing on the world map when viewing zone maps while in an instance.`
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`09:07.07`	`robotusch`	`Fisker-, thought you were talking about that 'Hudcreme' kid :(`
`09:07.14`	`robotusch`	`.. but then I scrolled up :/`
`09:07.32`	`Paradox`	`pitbullers: I've disabled my player > text > power options area, where do I get it back?`
`09:08.20`	`Paradox`	`oh I found it`
`09:08.23`	`Paradox`	`Other > Disabled texts`
`09:08.28`	`_rane`	`heh`
`09:08.33`	`_rane`	`was just typing that`
`09:09.59`	`Paradox`	`well anyway.. in the latest update (past day or so) the power text seems to be broken orsomething`
`09:10.07`	`Paradox`	`which is why I was fiddling with it and lost it`
`09:10.17`	`Paradox`	`it's just showing a "/" and no numbers`
`09:10.26`	`Paradox`	`it's set to show [CurMP]/[MaxMP]`
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`09:15.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Paradox: same here [SmartClass?ClassColor][NameRealm] is broen also for me`
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`09:28.15`	`CIA-9`	`03elsia * r60123 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua:`
`09:28.15`	`CIA-9`	`Recount:`
`09:28.15`	`CIA-9`	`- Fixed zhCn to zhTW in Recount_zhTW.lua`
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`09:28.58`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ckknight_: dogtag is buggy :(`
`09:29.48`	`[SW]Dodge`	`http://dodgex.servegame.com/dogtag.jpg <- yesterday it was ok`
`09:31.25`	`Ozguli`	`I shall not update my stuff then`
`09:31.49`	`[SW]Dodge`	`http://rafb.net/p/MUNgKk91.html <- this is my config of cowtip`
`09:32.48`	`[SW]Dodge`	`[~HasNoMP?FractionalMP] <- power [~IsMana ? FractionalDruidMP] <- Druidmana (both just a '/')`
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`09:45.49`	`ramoz`	`Did someone break DogTag last night? cause all my mana/rage/enegerytexts are gone =(`
`09:46.23`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ramoz: yea`
`09:47.13`	`ramoz`	`Has the pitbull presets been updated? cause they arnt working either it seems`
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`09:48.33`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ckknight: had updated pitbull, cowtip to the changes in dogtag`
`09:48.42`	`[SW]Dodge`	`but still something is broken :/`
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`09:53.42`	`Lukian`	`phyber, ping!`
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`09:59.06`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60124 10kgPanels/ (Libs/ embeds.xml icon.tga kgPanels.lua): kgPanels: added a minimap icon`
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`10:01.11`	`Xinhuan`	`Nargiddley: new bug found in acegui :D`
`10:01.33`	`Xinhuan`	`when a slider is disabled, mouse wheel up/down, still makes the slider move, but it doesn't actually do anything`
`10:01.35`	`Xinhuan`	`(just graphical)`
`10:04.24`	`Nargiddley`	`Xinhuan, mmk`
`10:04.42`	`Xinhuan`	`its more noticable if you just use a short slider option`
`10:04.45`	`Xinhuan`	`range i mean`
`10:04.48`	`Xinhuan`	`like 1-10`
`10:05.27`	`Xinhuan`	`btw, is there anyway i can register a new acegui widget such that`
`10:05.37`	`Xinhuan`	`aceconfigregistry will also recognize it?`
`10:05.42`	`Xinhuan`	`for option tables`
`10:06.44`	`Nargiddley`	`no`
`10:07.08`	`Xinhuan`	`so the only way to use custom widgets is to go by AceGui's commands?`
`10:07.23`	`Nargiddley`	`yes`
`10:07.58`	`Xinhuan`	`is it currently possible for me to register a new widget so that it is integrate-able with an existing opts table?`
`10:08.55`	`Grum`	`tbh that should be doable`
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`10:09.12`	`Xinhuan`	`but it appears not to be possible, since the dialog is generated purely from the opts table`
`10:09.27`	`Xinhuan`	`and the registry rejects custom types`
`10:09.41`	`Nargiddley`	`it will always reject custom types`
`10:09.50`	`CIA-9`	`03lyly00 * r60125 10WideQuestLog/ (11 files in 2 dirs):`
`10:09.50`	`CIA-9`	`WideQuestLog: -initial commit`
`10:09.50`	`CIA-9`	`- Put the questlog on two columns`
`10:10.06`	`Nargiddley`	`talking about letting you change the widget an option of an existing type uses`
`10:10.42`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm, i want to make a new widget, where there are 2 buttons and a text label`
`10:10.50`	`Xinhuan`	`the 2 buttons are "up" and "down" buttons basically`
`10:10.56`	`Xinhuan`	`where i have a list of things to order`
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`10:11.21`	`Xinhuan`	`but even if i make this widget, i can't integrate it into an existnig opts table`
`10:11.24`	`Nargiddley`	`a reorderable list is one of the open tickets`
`10:11.26`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: would it be really impossible to add support for customloaded widgets?`
`10:11.43`	`Nargiddley`	`grum, it would be 1/2 a line of code per type`
`10:12.02`	`Nargiddley`	`the spec would bloat to about 3x its current size tho`
`10:12.24`	`Grum`	`yes but having to switch from ace-opt to fully manual maintained ace-config is kinda harsh`
`10:12.34`	`Grum`	`just for 1 config option`
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`10:13.23`	`Nargiddley`	`the spec is implementation independant right now, that change would bring AceGUI and the API of every widget into the spec`
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`10:13.48`	`Grum`	`why? just impose an api to the user`
`10:14.09`	`Grum`	`'if you want to make your own widget it has to have X,Y,D as calls and it has to behave in a certain way'`
`10:14.21`	`Nargiddley`	`exactly`
`10:14.30`	`Nargiddley`	`that for each type`
`10:14.35`	`Grum`	`why?`
`10:14.46`	`Grum`	`cant you just assume the 'type' has those commands and just call them?`
`10:14.51`	`Nargiddley`	`no`
`10:15.09`	`Xinhuan`	`the problem is, i have a opts table that is huge, if i want to use a custom widget, i have to abandon this opts table`
`10:15.16`	`Xinhuan`	`to switch to a full acegui mplementation`
`10:15.20`	`Grum`	`and that sucks`
`10:15.34`	`Grum`	`i'm just curious why you say its not possible`
`10:15.49`	`Grum`	`i bet all GUI elements are now written to conform a certain specification`
`10:15.52`	`Nargiddley`	`I never said it wasn't possible`
`10:15.55`	`Grum`	`and then register themselves`
`10:16.01`	`Nargiddley`	`i'm saying it would triple the size of the spec`
`10:16.04`	`Grum`	`why?`
`10:17.03`	`Nargiddley`	`because currently AceGUI and the widgets used are not part of the spec`
`10:18.06`	`Grum`	`could you explain a bit how its structured?`
`10:18.06`	`Grum`	`because i clearly dont have the overview :)`
`10:18.16`	`Nargiddley`	`each type has a widget, each widget has an API`
`10:18.40`	`Grum`	`the api is 'it has get/set/step (for range)' etc?`
`10:18.44`	`Xinhuan`	`well i don't really forsee anyone going to ever make custom widgets then`
`10:20.03`	`Grum`	`i see: local typedkeys={ ... } AceConfigRegistry-3.0.lua`
`10:20.17`	`Grum`	`is that the magical map?`
`10:20.32`	`Xinhuan`	`yes, that is a specific implementation - just for opts tables`
`10:20.35`	`Nargiddley`	`thats just a validator for options tables`
`10:20.50`	`Nargiddley`	`which has nothing to do with widgets or acegui, and thats the point`
`10:20.53`	`Xinhuan`	`it validates them so nothing outside the spec is allowed`
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`10:21.21`	`Grum`	`ok so in order to add more you need to at least register your widget into that table`
`10:21.30`	`Nargiddley`	`AceConfigDialog function FeedOptions does the work you're looking for`
`10:21.43`	`Grum`	`lets see`
`10:21.54`	`Nargiddley`	`custom types aren't going to happen`
`10:22.24`	`Xinhuan`	`ya, and as a consequence, i don't forsee anyone ever going to make custom widgets`
`10:22.46`	`Grum`	`ah i see the giant if-else structure`
`10:22.48`	`Xinhuan`	`because they are near impossible to use`
`10:22.53`	`Nargiddley`	`the system was never designed for custom widgets in options tables`
`10:22.58`	`Grum`	`what if you put that code into a :Setup in the widget itself?`
`10:23.30`	`Nargiddley`	`grum, the widgets know nothing about options tables`
`10:23.36`	`Grum`	`control = gui:Create("EditBox"); control:Setup( ... ) -- just making it more generic`
`10:23.40`	`Grum`	`no but you can teach it`
`10:23.48`	`Nargiddley`	`I don't want to teach it`
`10:23.50`	`Grum`	`because atm you have a static key-value pair in your if structure`
`10:24.03`	`Grum`	`type="toggle" => gui:Create("CheckBox")`
`10:24.16`	`Grum`	`why not have that in a table somewhere that the user can append into`
`10:24.20`	`Nargiddley`	`waterfall had the options table loging burried in the controls and it was pain in the ass to maintain`
`10:24.21`	`Grum`	`it seems that that would just 'do the trick'`
`10:24.25`	`Nargiddley`	`because`
`10:24.50`	`Nargiddley`	`AceConfigDialog is ONE implementation of the spec, what about console, or dropdowns, or a different gui lib ?`
`10:25.47`	`Grum`	`what is so special about dropdowns btw?`
`10:25.57`	`Nargiddley`	`?`
`10:26.06`	`Grum`	`i know they are one of the more difficult ui elements grapically`
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`10:26.30`	`CIA-9`	`03jayhawk * r60126 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc PetInfoFu-readme.txt PetInfoFu.lua):`
`10:26.30`	`CIA-9`	`FuBar_PetInfoFu:`
`10:26.30`	`CIA-9`	`- 2.3.1 revamped happiness calculations to be (hopefully) more accurate;`
`10:26.30`	`CIA-9`	`- 2.3.1 added a little (movable) tooltip to show when your pet is being healed.`
`10:27.34`	`Grum`	`ok Nargiddley, do i get it correctly that AceGUI just knows one hell of a lot of widgets`
`10:27.43`	`Grum`	`all having a similar base API`
`10:28.00`	`Grum`	`and some type specific settings (header has nothing but multiselects have loaads)`
`10:28.00`	`Nargiddley`	`the base api for widgets deals with layout mostly`
`10:28.52`	`Nargiddley`	`AceGUI itself just deals with widgets and container widgets (frame, inlinegroup etc)`
`10:29.00`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`10:29.01`	`Nargiddley`	`a container widget is just an extension`
`10:29.12`	`Nargiddley`	`and then laying out widgets inside a container`
`10:29.25`	`Grum`	`aceopt is just a table that does all that automaticly`
`10:29.32`	`Nargiddley`	`no`
`10:29.48`	`Grum`	`well parsed by ConfigDialog ofc :)`
`10:29.50`	`Nargiddley`	`its a table that defines options that can be read and displayed by libs`
`10:30.05`	`Grum`	`ok, so the console reads from it`
`10:30.13`	`Grum`	`and the ConfigDialog (GUI)`
`10:30.16`	`Grum`	`anything more atm?`
`10:30.25`	`Grum`	`prolly some tab-completion for console`
`10:30.28`	`Nargiddley`	`not right now, but dropdowns are coming`
`10:30.35`	`Grum`	`what are 'dropdowns'`
`10:30.38`	`Grum`	`dewdrops?`
`10:30.46`	`Grum`	`popup menus?`
`10:30.56`	`Xinhuan`	`btw, i understand Nargiddley, perfectly, and understand why it isn't possible now`
`10:31.13`	`Grum`	`lol .. then explain it xin :)`
`10:31.22`	`Nargiddley`	`i guess dewdrops, but thats just a lib that does them :P`
`10:31.34`	`Xinhuan`	`the options table is a spec that defines stuff`
`10:31.43`	`Grum`	`yeah but a dropdown is a '<select>' in my world`
`10:31.45`	`Xinhuan`	`acegui is a implementation of how that table is presented to the table`
`10:31.48`	`Grum`	`not a popup menu`
`10:31.56`	`Xinhuan`	`dewdrop is a second implementation of how that table is presented to the user`
`10:32.00`	`Xinhuan`	`waterfall is a 3rd`
`10:32.17`	`Grum`	`yeah so i dont get why you cant dynamicly extend it`
`10:32.20`	`Grum`	`:P`
`10:32.21`	`Xinhuan`	`so if you add a type="custom" to the spec`
`10:32.28`	`Xinhuan`	`then every library out there that uses the spec`
`10:32.28`	`Grum`	`why custom?`
`10:32.35`	`Xinhuan`	`including dewdrop, acegui and waterfall`
`10:32.39`	`Xinhuan`	`will have to support it`
`10:32.51`	`Xinhuan`	`how will dewdrop display a acegui widget?`
`10:32.53`	`Nargiddley`	`and Khaos-AceOptions and rock and whatever else is out there :P`
`10:33.00`	`CIA-9`	`03lyly00 * r60127 10WideQuestLog/ (. WideQuestLog.toc):`
`10:33.00`	`CIA-9`	`WideQuestLog:`
`10:33.00`	`CIA-9`	`- Apply properties modifications`
`10:33.00`	`CIA-9`	`- update .toc`
`10:33.01`	`Grum`	`just register: type="PEWPEW" and have it point to a gui:Create("PewPew");`
`10:33.09`	`[Ammo]`	`widequestlog ftl`
`10:33.11`	`Xinhuan`	`yew but if i choose to use dewdrops`
`10:33.12`	`[Ammo]`	`DoubleWide ftl`
`10:33.14`	`[Ammo]`	`ftw`
`10:33.15`	`[Ammo]`	`urgh`
`10:33.17`	`[Ammo]`	`DoubleWide ftw`
`10:33.20`	`Xinhuan`	`how does dewdrop display type=pewpew?`
`10:33.37`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan: that has to be handled by the person writing the GUI element`
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`10:34.01`	`Xinhuan`	`but the person writing the GUI element doesn't know how many implementations of displaying the options table there are`
`10:34.03`	`Nargiddley`	`grum, then every implementation is dragged into the spec so these custom types can be written`
`10:34.19`	`Xinhuan`	`i listed 3, acegui, waterfall, and dewdrop`
`10:34.22`	`Xinhuan`	`rockconfig is a 4th`
`10:34.30`	`Nargiddley`	`theres a Khaos one as well`
`10:34.38`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan: tbh who cares for them?`
`10:34.39`	`[Ammo]`	`the plan was/is to just use a type=input and use a hint to define a custom way of showing it`
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`10:35.05`	`[Ammo]`	`that way a commandline would have a proper fallback`
`10:35.07`	`Xinhuan`	`because standards must be followed or there wil be a mess`
`10:35.08`	`[Ammo]`	`etc`
`10:35.18`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan: then define standards`
`10:35.22`	`Nargiddley`	`grum, exactly. custom types will never get written for them and they will never fully work`
`10:35.30`	`Xinhuan`	`if i make a cegui widget`
`10:35.32`	`Xinhuan`	`acegui`
`10:35.37`	`Xinhuan`	`which doesn't work in dewdrop`
`10:35.41`	`Xinhuan`	`that forces ppl to get acegui`
`10:35.45`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: but do you really care if a custom element works in someones Khaos ui?`
`10:35.51`	`Nargiddley`	`Grum, yes`
`10:35.52`	`[Ammo]`	`we care yes`
`10:35.57`	`Grum`	`why ?`
`10:36.05`	`Grum`	`you cant support every type of layout`
`10:36.08`	`Nargiddley`	`because users might like it`
`10:36.18`	`Nargiddley`	`and can pick how to configure things`
`10:36.23`	`Grum`	`then the user will ask the writer to make support in the custom element for it`
`10:36.48`	`Grum`	`why should you be responsible for the display?`
`10:36.57`	`[Ammo]`	`we're responsible for the spec`
`10:37.04`	`Nargiddley`	`we shouldn't, thats why its abstracted`
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`10:37.34`	`Grum`	`yes but being responsible for the spec and or having it abstracted doesnt work against having custom elements in it`
`10:37.40`	`Nargiddley`	`if someone wants a different display they can install anything that implements the spec. and get the same functionality`
`10:37.46`	`Grum`	`if your GUI doesnt support that type - then just dont display it`
`10:37.52`	`Grum`	`and blame tha author of the element`
`10:37.56`	`Grum`	`*the`
`10:37.57`	`[Ammo]`	`that's not how it works`
`10:38.02`	`Grum`	`because?`
`10:38.13`	`Nargiddley`	`because thats not how we want it to work`
`10:38.31`	`Xinhuan`	`example`
`10:38.34`	`Xinhuan`	`DirectX is a spec`
`10:38.36`	`Grum`	`ok, i am writing GrumAceOpt now, will you now add code to every widget so i can display it right?`
`10:38.39`	`Xinhuan`	`if you make a graphics card`
`10:38.43`	`Xinhuan`	`with the Grum brand`
`10:38.45`	`[Ammo]`	`Grum: no`
`10:38.49`	`Grum`	`why not ammo?`
`10:38.51`	`Xinhuan`	`it must support every part of the spec`
`10:39.13`	`Nargiddley`	`what does my widgets have to do with GrumAceOpt ?`
`10:39.45`	`Nargiddley`	`they are my chosen way of implementing the AceConfig3 spec, anything else thats possible is a side effect`
`10:39.46`	`Grum`	`well that is what you argue, if i create an extra widget - that widget also needs to know how to display itself`
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`10:40.43`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan: yes but why not allow people to make custom extentions that only work on windows?`
`10:41.21`	`Xinhuan`	`because i don't fucking want to install waterfall AND Dewdrop AND aceGUI AND Khaos, etc`
`10:41.27`	`Grum`	`if you in the code can handle all the work - why not do it? it will work perfect under windows - it might not under linux .. but hell .. i didnt code my gui-element to work there`
`10:41.28`	`Xinhuan`	`because Quartz only wants to use WF`
`10:41.36`	`Xinhuan`	`and Routes only wants to use Acegui, etc`
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`10:41.51`	`Grum`	`yes, so if Routes adds a custom widget to be used with Routes`
`10:42.00`	`Grum`	`why care that that widget doesnt work for Khaos or WF`
`10:42.07`	`Xinhuan`	`its kinda how rock config is good because it eliminates the needs for dewdroplib`
`10:42.12`	`kebinusan`	`Xinhuan: dont forget optionhouse`
`10:42.24`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`10:43.12`	`kebinusan`	`Im sure most people feel the same way about libraries though, I have no clue why I have 3 different parserlib things in my addons folder atm`
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`10:43.40`	`Grum`	`isnt it just a way of saying: if you are going to make something that reads AceOpts supporting these elements is mandatory`
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`10:44.07`	`Grum`	`but just allow otherelements to be loaded as well if the user decides to use them`
`10:44.36`	`Grum`	`you dont get a choise in which 'visual representation' you use as user, but if you force it - would it be so bad that some elements dont work?`
`10:44.53`	`Grum`	`its like saying: it want my RockConfig to be displayed in console .. all of it`
`10:44.58`	`Grum`	`you can not expect that to work`
`10:45.05`	`Grum`	`except for the stuff that matches the spec`
`10:45.26`	`Nargiddley`	`well, AceConfig3 does work that way right now`
`10:45.31`	`Grum`	`or stuff that can be handled eventhough it doesnt match the spec (which is up to the author to write support for)`
`10:45.39`	`Nargiddley`	`everything that works in the gui, can be changed through the console`
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`10:45.55`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: but every element has been coded to support both types`
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`10:46.07`	`Grum`	`both GUI and console`
`10:46.32`	`Grum`	`so what if i write something that only supports GUI - it would just not show up ion the console or say that you cant edit it because the author hasnt made support`
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`10:46.36`	`Grum`	`which is still perfectly valid`
`10:46.47`	`Nargiddley`	`and you're asking us to break that`
`10:46.54`	`Grum`	`no`
`10:47.12`	`Grum`	`i am asking to give the coder choice, he can code the console-related parts as well if he really wants`
`10:47.53`	`Grum`	`an you can just say: sorry - not according to spec and i get 'no support' back from the element ..`
`10:48.22`	`Nargiddley`	`see, now its not just custom widgets, its custom console handlers as well`
`10:49.44`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: i was quite surprised to see giant: 'if v.type == "execute" then' table in FeedOptions`
`10:49.52`	`Nargiddley`	`why ?`
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`10:50.48`	`Grum`	`i dont get why it wouldnt just do a: local element = gui:Create( RegisteredTypes[ type ] ); element:Setup( --[[all vars i have that might be useful]] )`
`10:51.00`	`Grum`	`basicly putting the logic into the gui elements itself`
`10:51.13`	`Nargiddley`	`because I specifically avoided doing that`
`10:51.18`	`Grum`	`because?`
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`10:51.33`	`Nargiddley`	`experience from maintaining waterfall`
`10:51.38`	`Xinhuan`	`ilidan at 30% RPing`
`10:51.38`	`Xinhuan`	`better kill it`
`10:51.44`	`Xinhuan`	`afk again`
`10:51.46`	`Xinhuan`	`from irc`
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`10:52.00`	`Thorgard`	`Xinhuan!`
`10:52.03`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: what was the bad experience then?`
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`10:52.08`	`[SW]Dodge`	`can someone please tell me what i'm doing wrong? http://rafb.net/p/MPW7AT39.html in line 7 is an error (see comment)`
`10:52.38`	`Grum`	`textFrame.text:SetFont("Emblem", "12", "OUTLINE") <-- no ttf ?`
`10:52.40`	`Grum`	`is the file there?`
`10:53.07`	`Grum`	`is it in an AddOns\\Interface\<ADDONNAME>\Emblem.ttf maybe?`
`10:53.09`	`Nargiddley`	`having to maintain it against the godawful AceOptions spec when tracking down where behaviour was implemented was hard`
`10:53.55`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ah ... i need the path? cry sorry ^^'`
`10:54.03`	`Grum`	`well yeah`
`10:54.10`	`Grum`	`normally its Fonts\\XXXX`
`10:54.25`	`Grum`	`its like with tga files :)`
`10:55.01`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: what is the centerpoint of the code now? AceGUI ?`
`10:55.11`	`Grum`	`or has it shifted to the AceOpt format again?`
`10:55.14`	`Nargiddley`	`centerpoint from what perspective ?`
`10:55.18`	`Grum`	`well, for the user`
`10:55.26`	`Nargiddley`	`why should they care ?`
`10:55.46`	`Grum`	`you expose AceOpt-tables which other gui/option-libs can display`
`10:55.56`	`Grum`	`and Ace has 2 implementations already`
`10:56.12`	`Grum`	`AceConsole and AceGUI right?`
`10:56.19`	`Nargiddley`	`AceConfigDialog`
`10:56.25`	`Grum`	`euuh yeah sorry`
`10:56.41`	`Nargiddley`	`AceGUI has nothing to do with them, except that its used by ConfigDialog`
`10:56.45`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`10:57.34`	`Grum`	`so all logic is inside AceConfigDialog and AceConsole atm?`
`10:57.42`	`Nargiddley`	`for options tables ?`
`10:57.46`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`10:57.47`	`Nargiddley`	`yes`
`10:58.20`	`Xinhuan`	`FUCKING HONOR UPDATE`
`10:58.26`	`Grum`	`LOL`
`10:58.27`	`Xinhuan`	`(4% wipe on illidan)`
`10:58.29`	`Grum`	`in the middle of Illidan?`
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`10:58.31`	`Grum`	`WTF`
`10:58.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`yaaay :DD thanks Grum =) i have my first FontString =D`
`10:58.33`	`Grum`	`nooo :(`
`10:58.37`	`Xinhuan`	`sorry, its 2%`
`10:58.42`	`Grum`	`gawd`
`10:58.44`	`Xinhuan`	`one raid member still alive`
`10:58.49`	`Grum`	`go Akama!`
`10:58.51`	`Nargiddley`	`AceConfigRegistry knows the spec so it can validate, and acts as a central place to retrieve tables from`
`10:59.05`	`Xinhuan`	`ok we have a raid member that is "lagging"`
`10:59.07`	`Xinhuan`	`and hence taking 0 damage`
`10:59.10`	`Xinhuan`	`and not dying`
`10:59.13`	`Xinhuan`	`so 1 alive 24 down`
`10:59.19`	`Xinhuan`	`and maieve is whacking him`
`11:00.13`	`Codayus`	`The best change in 2.4 will be removal of honor updates.`
`11:00.15`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: i'm just curious, what would be needed to support a new element if you make one now`
`11:00.27`	`Nargiddley`	`define new element ?`
`11:00.37`	`Codayus`	`That damn lag spike is just..."hey, let's screw you over! Bye now!"`
`11:00.39`	`Grum`	`errr imageselect?`
`11:00.45`	`Grum`	`dropdown with images you can select`
`11:00.47`	`Grum`	`orso`
`11:00.56`	`Grum`	`something that would be completely new and requires new code`
`11:01.23`	`Xinhuan`	`its like`
`11:01.25`	`Xinhuan`	`parasite`
`11:01.25`	`Grum`	`then you would now extend ConfigRegistry, and make both a AceConsole and AceConfigDialog implementation right?`
`11:01.28`	`Xinhuan`	`on one person`
`11:01.33`	`Xinhuan`	`then everyone lags due to honor update`
`11:01.38`	`Xinhuan`	`then parasites multiplies`
`11:01.45`	`Nargiddley`	`for us to implement a new type as part of the spec ?`
`11:01.49`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`11:01.49`	`Xinhuan`	`illidan walks on a trap, takes hella damage from dots from 7% to 2%, and we wipe >.<`
`11:01.58`	`Grum`	`lol`
`11:01.59`	`robotusch`	`:O`
`11:02.07`	`Grum`	`well if you get him down that far you will get him`
`11:02.08`	`Nargiddley`	`then yeah, add it to the validator, and add support in console and dialog`
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`11:02.17`	`Grum`	`ok`
`11:02.27`	`Grum`	`what if you dont add support to console and dialog what happens then?`
`11:02.43`	`Silviu-`	`ckknight , around ?`
`11:02.43`	`Grum`	`or you add support to one of them`
`11:02.45`	`Orionshock`	`Grum: you'd have to evaluate why your adding it in the first place`
`11:02.48`	`Grum`	`(else it will horrible die)`
`11:03.06`	`Nargiddley`	`well, we wouldn't do that. if its in the spec those 2 will supprort it`
`11:03.14`	`Grum`	`yeah but what would happen?`
`11:03.37`	`Nargiddley`	`depends on the implementation`
`11:04.04`	`Nargiddley`	`I don't know what ConfigDialog would do if it diddnt support it, Console would error when it hits it`
`11:04.19`	`charon`	`morning`
`11:04.40`	`Grum`	`so in order to support this completely you need to support extending the spec and then extending Console+Dialog as well`
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`11:05.00`	`Nargiddley`	`and every other possible implementation`
`11:05.11`	`Orionshock`	`Grum: it sounds like you don't understand their setup quite yet`
`11:05.26`	`Grum`	`i understand it but imho its not impossible to make it extendable`
`11:05.37`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
`11:05.56`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp10.jpg <-- illidan and 10 parasites attacking an unkillable priest`
`11:06.13`	`Orionshock`	`every element has it's place with in it's end use.`
`11:06.55`	`Orionshock`	`if an element dosn't have a use then, it cannot be implemented`
`11:07.15`	`robotusch`	`nerf pain suppresion, I'd say`
`11:07.47`	`Grum`	`well you need to define what happens if the engine displaying being it Console or DialogConfig doesnt know itself what to do`
`11:08.10`	`Silviu-`	`Hmm, Pitbull and cowtip are broken somehow ? or only for me ;)`
`11:08.14`	`Grum`	`what if it would just call: Setup( ... ) and Display( ... ) on something that has been pre-registered as 'being something that is valid'`
`11:08.46`	`Orionshock`	`Grum: that would be part of the implementation`
`11:08.47`	`Hobby`	`Silviu-: They're broken, I'm not using either atm, but read that 5 times this morning`
`11:09.01`	`Hobby`	`So something was broken on a commit last night I'd imagine`
`11:09.31`	`Nargiddley`	`Grum, The spec is designed so that implementations don't run into this problem. We don't want to change that. Fully implementing the spec should be possible for anything that wants to.`
`11:11.02`	`Grum`	`i'm just saying that it might be possible to load a custom GUI element that will just get 'called' (and therefor has to implement a certain API) and not be in the spec`
`11:11.22`	`Nargiddley`	`it would be possible`
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`11:11.23`	`Grum`	`will be quite hard for that element to support all flavors but that would be up to the author`
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`11:11.36`	`Nargiddley`	`if the spec included AceGUI`
`11:11.42`	`Nargiddley`	`which it intentionally doesnt`
`11:14.04`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: i guess you will have to extend aceopt with loads of things then :/`
`11:14.24`	`nevcairiel`	`no he wont`
`11:14.50`	`nevcairiel`	`AceOpt wont get bloated with every useless feature anyone suggests`
`11:15.00`	`Nargiddley`	`It is not trying to be everything for everyone, never has been`
`11:15.17`	`CIA-9`	`03ixchael * r60128 10Historian/ (8 files):`
`11:15.17`	`CIA-9`	`Historian:`
`11:15.17`	`CIA-9`	`- Added the beginning of a standalone GUI.`
`11:15.17`	`CIA-9`	`- Added tracking of some PvP stats - more to come.`
`11:15.17`	`CIA-9`	`- Split the code up into several files, cleaned up various parts of it.`
`11:16.40`	`smoke_`	`if it has an internal frame tester u could just amke a macro`
`11:16.50`	`smoke_`	`mt jesus`
`11:17.55`	`Orionshock`	`Grum: if you need something specific... try just building it with AceGUI directly...`
`11:18.06`	`Grum`	`nevcairiel: well a giant downside is that aceopts are easy to use compared with AceGUI`
`11:18.09`	`Grum`	`and you cant mix em`
`11:18.10`	`neenee`	`Hm. I just read about 'timingMethod', a variable for Config.WTF which supposedly does something comparable to what running medialplayer does.`
`11:18.25`	`Nargiddley`	`you can mix them in one direction`
`11:19.01`	`Grum`	`so if you have one hell of a big aceopt .. it is a frikking hell of converting that to AceGUI .. just for that one element you want`
`11:19.32`	`Orionshock`	`Grum: ... you now force the question... "What Element are you looking for?"`
`11:20.01`	`Grum`	`multiselect dropdown for example`
`11:20.13`	`nevcairiel`	`you can use the dialogControl attribute then`
`11:20.29`	`Orionshock`	`... -.- don't we have multislect dropdowns?`
`11:20.30`	`nevcairiel`	`create the widget, tell AceConfigDialog to use another one by specifying dialogControl`
`11:20.53`	`Grum`	`Orionshock: nope`
`11:20.59`	`nevcairiel`	`multiselects are only alot of checkboxes`
`11:21.03`	`Orionshock`	`i could swear we did`
`11:21.25`	`Grum`	`and putting 15 options in that .. makes it stupidly large`
`11:22.06`	`Nargiddley`	`Diddn't I already say that multiselect dropdowns are coming ?`
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`11:22.24`	`Orionshock`	`^^`
`11:23.08`	`Grum`	`Nargiddley: also being able to control some of the flow in ConfigDialog would also help`
`11:23.20`	`nevcairiel`	`you can`
`11:23.21`	`Grum`	`for example being able to 'jump' to a certain group, or open something up`
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`11:27.09`	`baer_`	`hi, i got a problem concerning pitbull.`
`11:27.25`	`baer_`	`for some reason the mana display on all frames does not work anymore.`
`11:27.41`	`Silviu-`	`Hobby thx for confirming :P`
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`11:30.08`	`Grum`	`baer_: and you have the latest version?`
`11:30.13`	`Orionshock`	`Nargiddley: question, wrt the OptionsTableSpec,.. what's up with it erroring on table keys with spaces in it?`
`11:30.26`	`Nargiddley`	`console uses keys`
`11:30.36`	`baer_`	`Grum: updated 10 minutes ago.`
`11:30.40`	`Nargiddley`	`thats mostly a guess tho`
`11:31.30`	`Orionshock`	`meh...`
`11:31.42`	`Nargiddley`	`I diddn't write it :P`
`11:31.47`	`baer_`	`in cowtip a few lines seem to be missing, too.`
`11:31.56`	`baer_`	`did something change in dogtag?`
`11:32.01`	`Nargiddley`	`in fact I diddnt' know that it did up untill now`
`11:32.06`	`Grum`	`baer_: with or without externals - the LibDogTag has been massively updated`
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`11:32.17`	`sb_`	`wah ckknight`
`11:32.37`	`baer_`	`my normal update mode is "without externals"`
`11:32.55`	`Orionshock`	`localizing my addon and come to find out that it dosn't like me using "Thick Knothide" as a key name....`
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`11:33.29`	`Grum`	`well then make sure you have LibDogTag-2.0 uptodate:)`
`11:33.46`	`Silviu-`	`Grum i have latest and is still bugged :P`
`11:33.47`	`baer_`	`Grum: r60117 (last update 3hrs ago)`
`11:34.06`	`Thrae`	`Slackwise: 5v5 is good, it's almost impossible to properly balance 1v1 when PvP is team-based`
`11:34.09`	`Grum`	`could also be that some of the tags you are using are not working anymore?`
`11:34.13`	`Grum`	`you using any custom ones?`
`11:34.14`	`Orionshock`	`imo... pitbull and dogtag is for that upper 5% of people that are OCD obsessed with options and uber customization.... gg it can get complicated`
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`11:34.32`	`Silviu-`	`Grum i use normal tags ;-) not custom :P`
`11:34.33`	`baer_`	`good question, cowtip is pretty out of the box.`
`11:34.37`	`Grum`	`Orionshock: so what unitframes do you use?`
`11:34.48`	`Orionshock`	`hehe... i used pitbull for a while...`
`11:34.50`	`baer_`	`i configured some things with pitbull a while ago.`
`11:34.53`	`Orionshock`	`>.>`
`11:34.58`	`kebinusan`	`Orionshock: Except you cannot specify the number of buffs per row/number of rows from the options`
`11:34.58`	`Grum`	`Silviu-: poke ckknight =D`
`11:35.06`	`Silviu-`	`did, he sleeps`
`11:35.06`	`kebinusan`	`which makes it slightly not OCD enough for me`
`11:35.11`	`Grum`	`noway`
`11:35.14`	`Orionshock`	`lol kebinusan`
`11:36.02`	`Orionshock`	`kebinusan: u sure about that... i remember seeing something like that in the options treee`
`11:36.42`	`baer_`	`the wiki-page for DogTag-2.0 does not seem to be up to date.`
`11:36.58`	`kebinusan`	`you can split buffs/debuffs, but if you want to.. say have buffs displayed in 3 rows of 4 on the right side of the frame you cant get that specific`
`11:37.27`	`sb_`	`baer_: there is some ingame help now`
`11:37.29`	`sb_`	`with all tags`
`11:37.37`	`sb_`	`but yes - its also broken for me :/`
`11:37.41`	`baer_`	`oh?`
`11:37.44`	`sb_`	`cowtip, pitbull mana display`
`11:37.45`	`baer_`	`sb_: where?`
`11:38.12`	`sb_`	`cowtip -> line texts -> dogtag help`
`11:38.48`	`baer_`	`[CurMP] & [MaxMP] does not work.`
`11:38.51`	`sb_`	`yup`
`11:40.21`	`Olison`	`yeah`
`11:40.23`	`Olison`	`bullshit`
`11:40.27`	`Olison`	`why release it then`
`11:40.32`	`sb_`	`[~HasNoMP ? CurMP] / [~HasNoMP ? MaxMP]`
`11:40.34`	`sb_`	`works`
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`11:40.57`	`sb_`	`[CurMP] / [MaxMP] works too`
`11:41.22`	`Grum`	`ckknight_: wake up slacker`
`11:41.54`	`baer_`	`sb_: i'm using [CurMP] in pitbull right now.`
`11:42.11`	`baer_`	`all i get from [CurMP] / [MaxMP] ist the "/" :-p`
`11:42.40`	`Silviu-`	Another strange thing with Pitbull ... i especially say in addons list that i don`t want to load some modules, and they still load in game wtf :/
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`11:43.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`blame ckk for that one, was in a commit message yesterday`
`11:43.38`	`Silviu-`	`Arrowmaster hmm which one ?`
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`11:46.25`	`baer_`	`sb_: [~HasNoMP ? CurMP] / [~HasNoMP ? MaxMP] definately does not work.`
`11:46.35`	`baer_`	`oh wait.`
`11:46.40`	`Merl_`	`baer_: nah, CurMP and MaxMP works fine, but FractionalMP is broken`
`11:46.54`	`Orionshock`	`http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/PitBull?cs=60056`
`11:46.56`	`baer_`	`hell! it took 10 secs to update.`
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`11:49.39`	`ramoz`	`Ellipsis?`
`11:49.43`	`baer_`	`ok, cowtip got a lot of things not working.`
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`11:50.15`	`baer_`	`[SmartClass ? ClassColor][NameRealm] ?`
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`11:51.12`	`neenee`	`Er, does anyone know what the undiscovered location north-west on this map is? http://www.wowhead.com/?maps=47:405598`
`11:51.43`	`neenee`	`north-east.`
`11:51.44`	`neenee`	`egh`
`11:52.00`	`neenee`	`And I'm a Scouts leader. Good thing I'm not hiking now.`
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`11:52.48`	`Lyni\|UI`	`i think, there is nothing. Like north-east in the land where Menethil is in.`
`11:53.08`	ag`	`http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511677&in_page_id=1811`
`11:53.23`	`neenee`	`h`
`11:53.25`	`neenee`	`*hm`
`11:53.43`	`neenee`	`oki :)`
`11:54.24`	`Lyni\|UI`	`Hm... can someone help me with eePanels2? I wanted to change the color of a Panel within a script, but the code i've found in the ace-wiki did not work correctly.`
`11:55.12`	`baer_`	`[NameRealm] or the long version does not seem to work correctly.`
`11:55.24`	`Industrial`	`Lyni\|UI: paste the script and ask the question directly`
`11:55.31`	`Industrial`	`pastey.net`
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`11:57.22`	`Lyni\|UI`	`http://www.pastey.net/81715`
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`11:58.10`	`Lyni\|UI`	`The panel gets a dark red, but should get a very strong red (like #ff0000).`
`11:58.41`	`Grum`	`maybe it has alpha and is on a darker background?`
`11:59.47`	`Lyni\|UI`	`It is on a darker background (a black one), but if you look at the eeP2cc-function, the alpha is on 1, so i don't understand, why it should be transparent`
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`12:00.58`	`sb_`	`sigh cowtip is really fucked :p`
`12:01.07`	`Lyni\|UI`	`if i take 0.25, 0.6 and 0.75 as colors, it works correctly.... but 1,0,0 does not work`
`12:01.16`	`sb_`	`name and guild not displayed anymore`
`12:01.32`	`sb_`	`ckknight: what did you do? :o`
`12:01.44`	`baer_`	`sb_: talking about cowtip?`
`12:01.58`	`sb_`	`yup`
`12:02.14`	`Grum`	`sb_: its working here without problem`
`12:02.16`	`baer_`	`change [NameRealm] to [Name] for naming.`
`12:02.24`	`baer_`	`as a partial name-fix. :)`
`12:03.19`	`[SW]Dodge`	`switch [NameRealm] to [Name][Realm:Prepend(-)] and it is a full fix :)`
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`12:03.55`	`[SW]Dodge`	`[namerealm]was a alias for [Name][Realm:Prepend(-)]) what is still workin^^`
`12:03.56`	`sb_`	`hmhm`
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`12:07.27`	`baer_`	`hm...`
`12:08.03`	`[SW]Dodge`	`mh?`
`12:08.03`	`sb_`	`[Text([Name][Realm:Prepend(-)])] doesnt work`
`12:08.03`	`baer_`	`jup, works.`
`12:08.03`	`sb_`	`no :p`
`12:08.03`	`baer_`	`sb_: take the short form. :)`
`12:08.03`	`[SW]Dodge`	`just [Name][Realm:Prepend(-)]`
`12:08.03`	`sb_`	`w/o text(`
`12:08.03`	`sb_`	`hmmm`
`12:08.03`	`[SW]Dodge`	`no text( )`
`12:08.06`	`sb_`	`then Text() is broken?`
`12:08.14`	`sb_`	`because its also used in NameRealm tag definition`
`12:08.24`	`[SW]Dodge`	`maybe`
`12:08.30`	`sb_`	`hmm ck changed the text code`
`12:08.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ask ckknight what is broken :D`
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`12:09.23`	`sb_`	`"LibDogTag-2.0 - make [Text] faster "`
`12:09.24`	`sb_`	`well`
`12:09.26`	`sb_`	`its 'faster' now :p`
`12:09.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`hehe`
`12:11.36`	`Orionshock`	`.. / you speak of Text() as if it did something /`
`12:12.07`	`Orionshock`	`... just look at the dialog, it's just funny :P`
`12:12.24`	`baer_`	`well, any idea how to fix the mana display in cowtip?`
`12:12.45`	`Xinhuan`	`how about, use a different tooltip addon`
`12:12.47`	`Orionshock`	`baer_: have you tried nixing your wtf file for cowtip?`
`12:12.49`	`Xinhuan`	`or revert to an earlier version`
`12:13.07`	`Xinhuan`	`honestly reading 40 min of "cowtip broke" isn't going to help`
`12:13.08`	`baer_`	`Orionshock: not yet.`
`12:13.55`	`Orionshock`	`oddly enough adddons have this thing called "Defaults" and surpizingly they work more often then not. :P`
`12:14.26`	`baer_`	`Orionshock: tried it, still the bugged mana display.`
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`12:14.59`	`Orionshock`	`...? how could you do that, how do you f' up defaults....`
`12:15.37`	`baer_`	`and the name is bugged now, too.`
`12:15.47`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:15.50`	`Orionshock`	`nix file`
`12:15.53`	`Orionshock`	`open game`
`12:16.01`	`baer_`	`did that.`
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`12:16.17`	`Orionshock`	`... it didn't take long enough, try again.`
`12:16.31`	`charon`	`Orionshock: oddly enough computer programs have this thing called "bugs" and by default, they're more surprising than not`
`12:17.09`	`Orionshock`	`"Ah! i see" said the blind man ...`
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`12:17.46`	`charon`	`(i honestly have no idea about the cowtip situation but thanks for the warning, not going to upgrade anything today...)`
`12:18.37`	`Orionshock`	`gha... ffs why is the files site borked again?`
`12:20.15`	`Orionshock`	`well... looks like it all crashed...`
`12:20.15`	`Orionshock`	`anyone else getting www.wowace.com going MIA?`
`12:21.16`	`charon`	`Orionshock: Works For Me(tm)`
`12:21.26`	`Lyni\|UI`	`for me also`
`12:21.35`	`Orionshock`	`...`
`12:21.37`	`Wobin`	`fine for me`
`12:21.55`	`Orionshock`	`good ol'fasion Cox, giving it to me from behind .... -.-`
`12:22.04`	`Wobin`	`http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/feb/01/internationalpersonalfinancebusiness.internet`
`12:22.14`	`Wobin`	`dunno if that may have some effect`
`12:22.50`	`Fisker-`	`Wobin`
`12:22.53`	`Fisker-`	`i has sickness`
`12:23.01`	`Wobin`	`and the only prescription`
`12:23.03`	`Wobin`	`is more cowbell?`
`12:24.17`	`sb_`	`hm`
`12:24.29`	`sb_`	`value = tonumber(${arg}) or ${arg} <-- returns ${arg} if tonumber fails?`
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`12:24.47`	`Wobin`	`only if tonumber returns null`
`12:24.54`	`Wobin`	`If this is in lua`
`12:24.59`	`sb_`	`yup, lua`
`12:25.31`	`Wobin`	`so yes.`
`12:25.58`	`sb_`	`ah so if you have tonumber("a") it returns "a", because tonumber returns nil`
`12:25.59`	`sb_`	`okay`
`12:26.10`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`12:26.39`	`Wobin`	`That may have unintended side effects if you're expecting tonumber to do something significant =)`
`12:27.28`	`nevcairiel`	`lua> tonumber("ab1234cd")`
`12:27.28`	`lua_bot`	`nevcairiel: nil,`
`12:27.32`	`nevcairiel`	`lua> tonumber("1234cd")`
`12:27.32`	`lua_bot`	`nevcairiel: nil,`
`12:27.41`	`nevcairiel`	`doesnt even cut off letters`
`12:27.53`	`Wobin`	`nope`
`12:28.05`	`CIA-9`	`03nargiddley 07Beta * r60129 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-Slider.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: Fix slider widget moving with the mousewheel when disabled`
`12:28.11`	`Wobin`	`lua> tonumber("123abc", 16)`
`12:28.11`	`lua_bot`	`Wobin: 1194684,`
`12:28.19`	`Kalroth`	`lua> tonumber("0xAD")`
`12:28.20`	`lua_bot`	`Kalroth: 173,`
`12:28.26`	`Wobin`	`You can do that though =)`
`12:28.29`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`12:28.44`	`Silviu-`	`Can anypne commit a fix to LibBabblespell3.0 ? is missing translation for "Well Fed" ;-)`
`12:28.47`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> tonumber("deadbeef",16)`
`12:28.47`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: 3735928559,`
`12:28.57`	`nevcairiel`	`is there a way to reverse that? like convert base10 to 16?`
`12:29.00`	`Wobin`	`lua> tonumber("beefbeefbeefbee", 16)`
`12:29.00`	`lua_bot`	`Wobin: 4294967295,`
`12:29.17`	`Silviu-`	`anyone*`
`12:29.42`	`Orionshock`	`lua> tostring(4294967295,16)`
`12:29.43`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: 4294967295,`
`12:29.46`	`Orionshock`	`ah...`
`12:33.42`	`Kalroth`	`lua> string.format("%X",3735928559)`
`12:33.43`	`lua_bot`	`Kalroth: DEADBEEF,`
`12:33.52`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`12:33.58`	`sb_`	`i dont understand ckk's code :p`
`12:34.09`	`Wobin`	`sb_: Welcome to the rest of us`
`12:34.16`	`Silviu-`	`;))))))`
`12:34.50`	`sb_`	`there is some condition which returns some other condition, but that case is already handled in another elseif (2 lines down) - wtf :o and still not working :/`
`12:35.43`	`Xinhuan`	`... why are you guys still at it`
`12:35.50`	`Xinhuan`	`can't yu revert to a version 3 days ago?`
`12:36.13`	`Wobin`	`Maybe they want to learn`
`12:36.23`	`Wobin`	`(although I don't exactly advise ck's code for learning)`
`12:36.27`	`Xinhuan`	`clearly not working after 1 hour`
`12:36.48`	`Wobin`	`well, sb learned about using 'or' to return a value`
`12:37.11`	`Wobin`	`so it wasn't all wasted =)`
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`12:38.00`	`Orionshock`	`"History is a constant race between invention and catastrophe. Education helps but it's never enough"`
`12:38.23`	`Orionshock`	`^^ Random Quote of the Day :P`
`12:38.38`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`\o/ Blizzard wins against Peons4hire in Court \o/`
`12:39.22`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
`12:39.26`	`Wobin`	`heheh`
`12:39.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`you should see the diff i had for acecomm-2.0, use some interesting shortcutting there`
`12:39.42`	`Wobin`	`"Work done!"`
`12:40.07`	`Wobin`	`Although, if P4H had sent a guy in a grunt outfit to represent them, that would have been cool`
`12:40.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh hey its still on the last 10 list on pastey http://ace.pastey.net/81647`
`12:40.17`	`Wobin`	`he'd just have to be on the stand and say: "Stop poking me!"`
`12:40.32`	`sb_`	`giving up ckknight: dogtag text() seems to be broken :o`
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`12:46.58`	`Hjalte`	`ckknight: The name has gone missing from my Cowtip tooltips. I'm sure someone else has reported this already, is there a fix?`
`12:47.19`	`Silviu-`	`He sleeps`
`12:47.26`	`Silviu-`	`And yes all reported that ;-)`
`12:48.30`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Hjalte: change [NameRealm] to [Name][Realm:Prepend(-)] and it works again (it works for me^^)`
`12:48.53`	`Hjalte`	`Thanks :)`
`12:49.53`	`sb_`	`well but guild display is also broken`
`12:50.06`	`sb_`	`Text() seems to be broken`
`12:50.15`	`Silviu-`	`[SmartClass#mouseovertarget ? ClassColor#mouseovertarget][IsUnit#player(mouseovertarget) ? Text(<<You>>) ! NameRealm#mouseovertarget:Paren]`
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`12:50.26`	`Silviu-`	`:/`
`12:50.30`	`Silviu-`	`this line is broken now`
`12:50.34`	`[SW]Dodge`	`[[Guild = Guild#player] ? Green][Guild:Angle] <- :)`
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`12:51.00`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Silviu-: T -> [SmartClass#mouseovertarget ? ClassColor#mouseovertarget][IsUnit#player(mouseovertarget) ? Text(<<You>>) ! NameRealm#mouseovertarget:Text(None)] <- works for me`
`12:51.01`	`sb_`	`i wont change all my tags just because some elemental modifier is broken :p`
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`12:51.36`	`[SW]Dodge`	`sb_: you said Text() is broken? tell my whit i works for me :DD`
`12:51.42`	`sb_`	`mhh :(`
`12:51.50`	`sb_`	`25,3% of my life in-game!`
`12:51.53`	`sb_`	`err`
`12:51.55`	`sb_`	`since release :p`
`12:51.55`	`[SW]Dodge`	`s/whit i/why it/`
`12:52.08`	`sb_`	`okay`
`12:52.13`	`sb_`	`dont know :)`
`12:52.18`	`[SW]Dodge`	`:)`
`12:52.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`well we have to wait for ckknight fixing it :X`
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`12:53.16`	`sb_`	`Text([Name][Realm:Prepend(-)]) works?`
`12:53.19`	`sb_`	`or only w/o Text()?`
`12:53.38`	`[SW]Dodge`	`that w/o Text`
`12:53.51`	`[SW]Dodge`	`but "T -> [SmartClass#mouseovertarget ? ClassColor#mouseovertarget][IsUnit#player(mouseovertarget) ? Text(<<You>>) ! NameRealm#mouseovertarget:Text(None)]" works for me`
`12:55.03`	`Hjalte`	`My mana displays are broken :\`
`12:55.07`	`sb_`	`yup`
`12:55.11`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ya :(`
`12:55.20`	`Grum`	`well my 'castbartext' is broken`
`12:55.51`	`Silviu-`	`[NameRealm:HostileColor] [AFKDND]`
`12:55.53`	`Silviu-`	`hmm`
`12:56.25`	`Silviu-`	[Name][Realm:Prepend(-)][AFKDND] let`s see if this works
`12:56.56`	`Silviu-`	`seems to`
`12:57.29`	`sb_`	`see - so i assumed Text() is broken :p`
`12:58.11`	`Silviu-`	`hmm HostileColour is not working anymore`
`12:58.59`	`sb_`	`same with [NameRealm]`
`12:59.09`	`Silviu-`	`I think is now AggroColor`
`12:59.46`	`sb_`	`no, HostileColor is still there`
`13:00.03`	`Silviu-`	`Hmm true`
`13:00.06`	`Silviu-`	`But not working`
`13:00.07`	`Silviu-`	`;p`
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`13:04.01`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Beta * r60131 10Ace3/ (34 files in 18 dirs): Ace3 - bump the minor revs of all libs and widgets for the upcoming beta`
`13:06.06`	Funkeh`	`wow`
`13:06.18`	Funkeh`	`can't blizz make a realiable API that returns nil when you can use travel form`
`13:06.42`	`Kalroth`	`Didn't you just answer your own question? :p`
`13:06.43`	Funkeh`	`tried 3 different ones now`
`13:06.56`	`nevcairiel`	`IsOutdoors()?`
`13:07.08`	`nevcairiel`	`seems to work in macros just fine`
`13:07.58`	Funkeh`	`nope`
`13:08.10`	Funkeh`	`is outdoors returned 1 in an inn`
`13:09.16`	`nevcairiel`	`sucks to be you, then`
`13:09.37`	`Xinhuan`	`fuck YES`
`13:09.38`	`Xinhuan`	`[Bulwark of Azzinoth] [Memento of Tyrande] [Chestguard of the Forgotten Conqueror]x2`
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`13:09.48`	`Kalroth`	`Xinhuan: Lucky sod`
`13:09.53`	`nevcairiel`	`man you suck, first kill and the trinket`
`13:10.09`	`sb_`	`no legendary? :p`
`13:10.12`	`Xinhuan`	`nope!`
`13:10.15`	`Xinhuan`	`but i dn't care`
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`13:10.36`	`sb_`	`hmm - perhaps firstkill tomorrow for us :o`
`13:10.48`	`sb_`	`we already got past p2`
`13:10.54`	`sb_`	`some p3 positioning to do`
`13:11.06`	`Kalroth`	`We got the trinket first time this week; 8 healers in raid, 8 tell for trinket`
`13:11.14`	`Kalroth`	`tells*`
`13:11.24`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`grz Xinhuan`
`13:11.36`	`[SW]Dodge`	`meh didnt seen keal'thas yet cry`
`13:11.37`	`nevcairiel`	`i have the highest dkp right now, so the trinket would be mine, but noo it doesnt drop`
`13:11.45`	`Xinhuan`	`ok 11th guild on my server to kill illidan :D`
`13:11.47`	`Xinhuan`	`:D:D`
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`13:12.43`	`kagaro`	`we only have maybe 6 guilds on our server even in bt`
`13:12.48`	`Kalroth`	`Geez, 11 Illidan killing guilds?`
`13:12.49`	`sb_`	`we are going to be #3 :p`
`13:12.51`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`13:12.52`	`Xinhuan`	`11`
`13:12.57`	`Xinhuan`	`we have 24 guilds in BT on my server`
`13:13.06`	`nevcairiel`	`we have 5 or so that killed illidan, we were second tho`
`13:13.15`	`kagaro`	`ysera is medium pop, with very few endgame guilds`
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`13:13.38`	`Kalroth`	`4 Illidan guilds, 13 in BT`
`13:13.44`	`kagaro`	`wtb endgame guild not stuck on kael`
`13:14.28`	`Chompers`	`kaels pretty fun, p3 still destroys my guild though`
`13:14.53`	`kagaro`	`we barely make it to p4`
`13:15.20`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`We are top5 guild in farming BT ... can i have a cookie now? :(`
`13:15.24`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`GIEF SUNWEELLLLL`
`13:15.52`	`Kalroth`	`You're german though, so you don't count!`
`13:16.49`	`Kalroth`	`I'm EU myself, I'm just saying that non-english servers don't count!`
`13:17.08`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Kalroth wait, i laugh later k?`
`13:17.38`	`sb_`	`giev illidan kill tomorrow :p`
`13:18.05`	`[SW]Dodge`	`FtH\|Daemona: you are on a german server? which pve or pvp? do you need feral tanks? :D`
`13:18.14`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`13:18.27`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`no, For the Horde is not recruiting ;)`
`13:18.40`	`[SW]Dodge`	`damn :x`
`13:19.21`	`[SW]Dodge`	`n811 feral druid lf guild for hyjal/BT xP`
`13:21.55`	`sb_`	`lfworkingpitbull :/`
`13:22.36`	`Silviu-`	`sb_ make mana to "smart" and it will "work" :P`
`13:22.46`	`sb_`	`... :p`
`13:22.51`	`Silviu-`	`Absolute is not working is only an / ;)`
`13:23.40`	`sb_`	`well but Custom is working - with tags from absolute :p`
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`13:31.48`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`erhm [SW]Dodge grz on your researching skills, FtH is Horde ;)`
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`13:32.41`	`[SW]Dodge`	`yea i know (since you said "For the horde is not recruiting") ~~`
`13:33.27`	`xonyx`	`Hi there`
`13:33.43`	`[SW]Dodge`	`but i didnt know when i asked you`
`13:39.21`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60132 10kgPanelsConfig/ (kgPanelGuideFrame.lua kgPanelsConfig.lua kgPanelsConfig.toc): kgPanelsConfig: adjuted the toc, made the config and guide frame modules for refs`
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`13:39.59`	`sb_`	`whats kgPanels?`
`13:40.09`	`Stanzilla`	`eePanels3`
`13:40.12`	`sb_`	`ah`
`13:40.12`	`Stanzilla`	`:P`
`13:40.13`	`[SW]Dodge`	`i bet its something like eePanels`
`13:40.26`	`Silviu-`	`Can anyone commit a fix to LibBabble-Spell-3.0 ? is missing translation for "Well Fed" ;-)`
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`13:46.00`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60133 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: minimap icon optional`
`13:48.02`	`dodga`	`hmpf, DogTag's latest update messed up my setup :\`
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`13:50.24`	`sb_`	`no!`
`13:50.37`	`sb_`	`its all your fault!`
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`13:52.41`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
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`13:59.02`	`dodga`	`sb_: nope :P`
`14:00.02`	`array{Endeavour}`	`Is there any way to get which submenu of a FuBar menu is opened?`
`14:00.48`	`CIA-9`	`03scythxiii * r60134 10ItemValue/ (. ItemValue.toc):`
`14:00.48`	`CIA-9`	`ItemValue:`
`14:00.48`	`CIA-9`	`- Re-embedded FuBarPlugin-2.0`
`14:01.06`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60135 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: option example for minimapicon`
`14:03.03`	`[SW]Dodge`	`libbabble-spell-3,0 misses "Icy Veins" ~.~`
`14:05.04`	`dodga`	`funny, CurMP and MaxMP returns 0 :o`
`14:06.23`	`Stanzilla`	`[SW]Dodge: can you make a list of the missing spells/buffs?`
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`14:09.58`	`[SW]Dodge`	`uhm... how i know what is missing? i found the miss of icy veins couse i wanted to translate it :X`
`14:10.12`	`CIA-9`	`03gagorian * r60136 10DrDamage/Caster.lua:`
`14:10.12`	`CIA-9`	`DrDamage:`
`14:10.12`	`CIA-9`	`- Added global modifier tables for better 3rd party addon compatibility`
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`14:14.34`	`CIA-9`	`03crashmstr * r60137 10ASSinTrade/ (ASSinTrade.lua ASSinTrade.toc):`
`14:14.34`	`CIA-9`	`ASSinTrade:`
`14:14.34`	`CIA-9`	`- changed X-Website in TOC`
`14:14.34`	`CIA-9`	`- Added 3v3 and 5v5 to patterns`
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`14:16.22`	`CIA-9`	`03crashmstr * r60138 10ASSBlock/ASSBlock.lua:`
`14:16.22`	`CIA-9`	`ASSBlock:`
`14:16.22`	`CIA-9`	`- Added self: references to function calls.`
`14:16.22`	`CIA-9`	`- Tested for party invite response, works`
`14:17.13`	`nevcairiel`	`another sucky spam block(er) ?`
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`14:19.04`	`CIA-9`	`03gagorian * r60139 10DrDamage/Caster.lua:`
`14:19.04`	`CIA-9`	`DrDamage:`
`14:19.04`	`CIA-9`	`- Improved performance of the change described in the last update`
`14:21.22`	`Grum`	`eeey mana is broken`
`14:23.11`	`cncfanatics`	`yo peeps !`
`14:24.13`	`sb_`	`meh`
`14:24.13`	`sb_`	`cartographer (X) is broken`
`14:24.18`	`Grum`	`health is also broken :(`
`14:24.21`	`Grum`	`lol`
`14:24.25`	`Grum`	`what did ckk do!`
`14:24.30`	`Grum`	`sb__ (X)?`
`14:24.47`	`sb_`	`eh - the X button :)`
`14:24.49`	`sb_`	`closing button`
`14:24.58`	`sb_`	`it doesnt close cartographer but removes the 'border'`
`14:25.04`	`Xinhuan`	`works for me`
`14:25.05`	`Xinhuan`	`;d`
`14:25.11`	`Grum`	`LOL`
`14:25.16`	`Grum`	`it indeed does that sb_`
`14:25.18`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan: update :P`
`14:25.23`	`Xinhuan`	`no ty`
`14:25.31`	`Xinhuan`	`i know enough not to update certain mods`
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`14:26.12`	`Grum`	`my castbast just update 6x per second ><`
`14:28.04`	`CIA-9`	`03gagorian * r60140 10DrDamage/Caster.lua:`
`14:28.04`	`CIA-9`	`DrDamage:`
`14:28.04`	`CIA-9`	`- Process global modifier table before buffs/debuffs, to get their effects in cases where global values are fixed`
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`14:30.03`	`RaydenUni`	`http://dota-wow.eu/forum/showthread.php?p=93 <-- any of you see this? DotA WoW`
`14:31.24`	`nevcairiel`	`will be shut down by blizz sooner or later anyway`
`14:31.54`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah first thought is "that's kind of cool, i'd like to play that" second thought is "how on earth are they getting away with it?"`
`14:32.32`	`CIA-9`	`03bethink * r60141 10CrossRealm/ (CrossRealm.lua CrossRealm.toc release_notes.txt):`
`14:32.32`	`CIA-9`	`CrossRealm:`
`14:32.32`	`CIA-9`	`- Optimized profit calculation, see release_notes.txt`
`14:32.48`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`14:33.34`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't understand why ppl would want to play on these fake servers`
`14:33.43`	`robotusch`	`aye`
`14:33.53`	`RaydenUni`	`its like a mod`
`14:34.06`	`robotusch`	`I guess it's fun for about 5 minutes running around one-shotting everything`
`14:34.08`	`Xinhuan`	`that one might be worth trying`
`14:34.08`	`nevcairiel`	`its stupid`
`14:34.12`	`Xinhuan`	`but every other emulation server`
`14:34.13`	`RaydenUni`	`custom battleground essentially`
`14:34.16`	`Xinhuan`	`is just boring`
`14:34.26`	`robotusch`	`.. until you realise that you're just about alone`
`14:34.27`	`Xinhuan`	`whats the point 1-70 in 22 hours?`
`14:34.39`	`RaydenUni`	`different game?`
`14:35.04`	`RaydenUni`	`if it is just 1-70 that would be dumb`
`14:35.15`	`RaydenUni`	`i hope its 1-10 like the original`
`14:35.33`	`Xinhuan`	`most emulation servers i hear about have 1-70 acceselaretd 10x or 0x`
`14:35.34`	`Xinhuan`	`20x`
`14:35.40`	`Xinhuan`	`and because they dont' have the boss/instance scripts`
`14:35.42`	`RaydenUni`	`although a true dota mod would be a lot of work`
`14:35.47`	`Xinhuan`	`all their bosses are only`
`14:35.50`	`Xinhuan`	`pure tank/spank`
`14:35.55`	`Xinhuan`	`that take 5 min to kill`
`14:36.13`	`RaydenUni`	`its free i guess`
`14:36.19`	`Xinhuan`	`ppl try these servers only mainly to try "specs"`
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`14:36.26`	`Xinhuan`	`assuming it follows real servers`
`14:36.28`	`Xinhuan`	`well enough`
`14:36.30`	`nevcairiel`	`its free and illegal`
`14:36.43`	`RaydenUni`	`does that stop anyone on the internet?`
`14:36.45`	`kagaro`	`I wonder how many people use thier real account info and get hacked later`
`14:36.53`	`nevcairiel`	`and really shouldnt be discussed here, take that elsewhere please :P`
`14:37.20`	`Xinhuan`	`i think a discussion is alright, doesn't really hurt anything`
`14:37.28`	`RaydenUni`	`i should just make a dota game`
`14:37.41`	`nevcairiel`	`its illegal, and anyone who uses it needs his real account closed, imho`
`14:38.21`	`Xinhuan`	`http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/02/01/peons4hire-blizzard-injunction/`
`14:38.26`	`Xinhuan`	`i linked this in wowi earlier`
`14:38.31`	`Xinhuan`	`Blizzard v. In Game Dollar Update: Injunction Entered, Peons Not 4Hire in World of Warcraft Anymore`
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`14:40.55`	`RaydenUni`	`blizzard should just make a dota-esque battleground`
`14:40.59`	`RaydenUni`	`biggest issue would be leveling`
`14:41.37`	`Xinhuan`	`RaydenUni, that battleground is called "Alterac Valley" ;p`
`14:41.43`	`Xinhuan`	`troops spawn continually on both sides`
`14:41.46`	`Xinhuan`	`and both sides push`
`14:41.56`	`Xinhuan`	`and both sides lvl up by killing the other side, turning in badges`
`14:41.59`	`Xinhuan`	`and getting "power ups"`
`14:42.09`	`nevcairiel`	`AV is being abused these days`
`14:42.18`	`nevcairiel`	`the rushing through to the boss is just stupid`
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`14:42.32`	`Xinhuan`	`you can't rush in dota only cos you start low lvl`
`14:42.33`	`Xinhuan`	`;p`
`14:42.43`	`nevcairiel`	`you shouldnt be able to engage the boss until like all towers are destroyed, and you own a certain amount of graveyards`
`14:42.54`	`Xinhuan`	`that will make games take forever though`
`14:42.58`	`Xinhuan`	`like the 5 day AVs`
`14:43.00`	`Xinhuan`	`in the past`
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`14:43.08`	`nevcairiel`	`not really`
`14:43.20`	`nevcairiel`	`they will take longer alright`
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`14:43.25`	`nevcairiel`	`but not forever`
`14:43.37`	`Xinhuan`	`most people are ok with 45m-1h hour games`
`14:43.39`	`nevcairiel`	`and with the 2.4 changed to honor, its not that bad`
`14:43.44`	`Xinhuan`	`but any longer than that is just frustrating`
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`14:44.36`	`RaydenUni`	`<Xinhuan> RaydenUni, that battleground is called "Alterac Valley" ;p <-- it's not at all similar`
`14:44.46`	`Xinhuan`	`the concept of AV came from DOTA`
`14:44.57`	`Xinhuan`	`its not exactly similar, but yu can see the similarities`
`14:45.04`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah`
`14:45.15`	`RaydenUni`	`but i think something like AV could be much better executed`
`14:45.17`	`nevcairiel`	`noone turns in any powerups anymore, or summons the guardians`
`14:45.37`	`RaydenUni`	`make it 10v10`
`14:45.37`	`nevcairiel`	`AV is just being abused by the cheap masses`
`14:45.38`	`Xinhuan`	`because half the time the summoning is bugged`
`14:45.43`	`RaydenUni`	`make the NPC soldiers MUCH stronger`
`14:45.44`	`Xinhuan`	`you can have 200 ppl clicking on the stupid thing`
`14:45.50`	`Xinhuan`	`and the ugardians just don't get summoned`
`14:46.11`	`Xinhuan`	`i'll like to see Guild Wars style pvp`
`14:46.16`	`Xinhuan`	`8v8v8v8 king of the hill`
`14:46.46`	`Lukian`	`give death knights their own faction :p`
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`14:49.29`	`Snill`	`Question: if "local X={}; function X.a() ... end", is the function X.a() in file scope?`
`14:50.33`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`14:50.33`	`Beherit`	`hi there`
`14:50.36`	`Beherit`	`[2008/02/03 15:45:16-2239-x1]: Grid\GridStatusAggro.lua:2: Cannot find a library instance of LibBanzai-2.0.`
`14:50.37`	`Xinhuan`	`it is in file scope`
`14:50.43`	`Snill`	`thank you`
`14:50.57`	`Beherit`	`i got many LibBanzei errors, and cant find that thing on svn`
`14:51.17`	`Xinhuan`	`sounds bad Beherit`
`14:51.39`	`Beherit`	`not that bad i hope`
`14:52.07`	`Beherit`	`could you give me a hint how to get that working again?`
`14:53.18`	`[Ammo]`	`download LibBanzai-2.0`
`14:53.28`	`[Ammo]`	`or update all addons restart wow`
`14:53.35`	`Beherit`	`i did`
`14:53.45`	`Beherit`	`i needed to manually download LibBanzai from webpage`
`14:53.53`	`Beherit`	`now it appears in wau again`
`14:53.56`	`Beherit`	`strange`
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`14:54.49`	`CIA-9`	`03feu * r60142 10MobileVault/ (Locales/Locale-frFR.lua MobileVault.toc):`
`14:54.49`	`CIA-9`	`MobileVault:`
`14:54.49`	`CIA-9`	`- added Locale-frFR.lua for french translations`
`14:55.30`	`Xinhuan`	`wtb ace3 beta already :)`
`14:56.15`	`cncfanatics`	`Xinhuan: ain't it in beta already ? :p`
`14:56.18`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
`14:56.24`	`Xinhuan`	`its in alpha`
`14:56.47`	`Xinhuan`	`the branch is called beta because thats the goal`
`14:56.57`	`cncfanatics`	`I see`
`14:57.10`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmmm, time to start serious coding`
`14:57.17`	`cncfanatics`	`attribute engine, how am I gonna handle that heh`
`14:58.30`	`CIA-9`	`03vectrexgamer * r60143 10ShoppingList/ (9 files):`
`14:58.30`	`CIA-9`	`ShoppingList: Initial import`
`14:58.30`	`CIA-9`	`- Creates a list of all the reagents you need to create a tradeskill item. This is particularly useful for engineers, for whom tradeskill items are typically composed of several other tradeskill items.`
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`15:01.02`	`JoshBorke`	`ace3 is almost beta! woot!`
`15:01.20`	`Kirkburn`	`:O`
`15:02.55`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60144 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0: fixed the issue`
`15:03.34`	`Stanzilla`	`oh`
`15:03.38`	`Stanzilla`	`oho!`
`15:05.50`	`Xinhuan`	`lol?`
`15:05.59`	`sb_`	`ah?`
`15:06.23`	`sb_`	`hmmm`
`15:06.27`	`sb_`	`well :)`
`15:06.29`	`Xinhuan`	`its funny when translators FIX issues`
`15:06.57`	`Xinhuan`	`the irony just gets to me`
`15:07.30`	`sb_`	`depends who 'created' that issue :p`
`15:08.26`	`Civrock`	`Well, apparently it was just a missing _.`
`15:08.33`	`Civrock`	`According to the forum.`
`15:08.34`	`sb_`	`:p`
`15:09.13`	`Grum`	`seriously, wth did ck do with pitbul ><`
`15:09.34`	`JoshBorke`	`made it better obviously`
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`15:10.24`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`15:10.27`	`sb_`	`well it doesnt fix anything for me (that _)`
`15:10.30`	`Grum`	`but all existing things broke`
`15:10.40`	`Grum`	`sb_ mana/health etc works again if you redo all of it`
`15:11.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`wth`
`15:11.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`why is my CowTip missing the entire first line >_>`
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`15:12.06`	`Civrock`	`That's the missing _, I believe. Fixed the blank first line for me.`
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`15:12.15`	`CIA-9`	`03vectrexgamer * r60145 10ShoppingList/:`
`15:12.15`	`CIA-9`	`ShoppingList:`
`15:12.15`	`CIA-9`	`- Set the svn:externals property`
`15:12.32`	`Gnarfoz`	`what are you talking about? :)`
`15:12.37`	`Civrock`	`CowTip.`
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`15:13.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`obviously, but what _?`
`15:13.16`	`Civrock`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8436.msg176624#msg176624`
`15:14.30`	`sb_`	`selfstab`
`15:15.05`	`sb_`	`actually works if you fix it in the real addon directory :/`
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`15:15.19`	`Grum`	`is anyone at all having problems with the update speed of the castbars?`
`15:17.53`	`cncfanatics`	`I don't get how a _ in a string could lead to such silly errors tbh`
`15:17.57`	`cncfanatics`	`but well, whatever`
`15:18.50`	`sb_`	`why?`
`15:19.13`	`sb_`	`its t_($number) = $value`
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`15:19.22`	`sb_`	`and t($number) = $value is wrong :p`
`15:19.27`	`cncfanatics`	`I guess`
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`15:31.15`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro * r60146 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: mouse over tooltip now colored, to match tracking circle of the pin`
`15:31.51`	`charon`	`morning/re`
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`15:49.58`	`SpiderBK`	`hi`
`15:51.08`	`SpiderBK`	`i have a problem with WAU, it cant connect to the remote server, is there a solution for this?`
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`15:51.55`	`Amadeo`	`Superbowl Sunday!`
`15:52.21`	`sb_`	`"if not IsAddOnLoaded("GuildFilter") then Ad...":1: attempt to call method 'LoadAddOn' (a nil value)`
`15:53.26`	`nevcairiel`	`someone tried to call it as a method`
`15:53.46`	`[Ammo]`	`not meant to be used with the old addonllader`
`15:55.43`	`SpiderBK`	`which is the latest WAU version?`
`15:56.25`	`sb_`	`[Ammo]: ah - and new addonloader is where?`
`15:56.35`	`sb_`	`branches?`
`15:56.39`	`sb_`	`or new name in trunk?`
`15:57.03`	`Stanzilla`	`http://code.google.com/p/addonloader/ <`
`15:57.06`	`sb_`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/AddonLoader/Non-Ace/AddonLoader/ <--?`
`15:57.14`	`sb_`	`ah`
`15:57.29`	`sb_`	`but its not on the wowace svn?`
`16:00.13`	`Silviu-`	`lol @ the small error that was in DogTag and that made me mad all day :/`
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`16:00.23`	`Silviu-`	`a small "_" :/`
`16:00.31`	`Stanzilla`	`O_O`
`16:00.57`	`Silviu-`	`http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua?r1=60117&r2=60144`
`16:01.05`	`Silviu-`	`instead of t[#t+1] = "t"`
`16:01.09`	`Silviu-`	`t[#t+1] = "t_"`
`16:01.12`	`Silviu-`	`lol ;)`
`16:01.24`	`Silviu-`	`Now all old tags work`
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`16:02.14`	`sb_`	`yes`
`16:02.18`	`sb_`	`already fixed on svn :p`
`16:02.31`	`Silviu-`	`Yes i saw :P`
`16:03.11`	`Silviu-`	`cheer for 7destiny`
`16:04.11`	`SpiderBK`	`how can i configure enhancer?`
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`16:07.05`	`SpiderBK`	`is it normal that wau crashes all the time?`
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`16:10.41`	`harldephin`	`my wau doesn't crash as long as i allow it to access anything it wants to access.`
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`16:11.20`	`harldephin`	`as soon as i block those advertisement ports or ips it tends to produce .net errors`
`16:11.24`	`SpiderBK`	`well i allow it to access everything but it crashes and it cant connect to the remote server.`
`16:11.30`	`Laz`	`Hullo. I'm trying to incorporate an option to auto-remove Salv in an addon I'm writing (first addon I've written). I'm assuming you can't CancelPlayerBuff inside of the CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS handler ... is using OnUpdate poor practice to cancel the buff if a RemoveSalv boolean is set to true? Not sure what other way I could use to make it work properly.`
`16:12.06`	`nevcairiel`	`You can do it in the event handler`
`16:12.06`	`SpiderBK`	`there is no ad in the newest version`
`16:12.14`	`Gagorian`	`And yes OnUpdate is a shitty choice`
`16:12.40`	`Laz`	`I thought so, too. But I can't figure it out. CancelPlayerBuff isn't working in my event handler (but when I /script it in-game it works fine)`
`16:12.51`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Beta * r60147 10Ace3/ (135 files in 26 dirs): Ace3 - creating Beta Tag`
`16:12.53`	`nevcairiel`	`probably needs a hardware event`
`16:13.07`	`Gagorian`	`Hmm perhaps yes`
`16:13.44`	`Gagorian`	`Well according to wowwiki`
`16:13.47`	`Gagorian`	`It doesn't`
`16:14.11`	`Gagorian`	`You're just doing it wrong perhaps!`
`16:14.20`	`Gagorian`	`Or the event doesn't trigger your handler`
`16:14.31`	`Laz`	`It does.`
`16:14.54`	`Laz`	`I've got several debugging messages inside of my handler, and CancelPlayerBuff is returning a nil value`
`16:15.07`	`SpiderBK`	`where can i download rock?`
`16:15.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`files.wowace.com, I'd guess`
`16:15.32`	`Laz`	`according to wowwiki, that's what happens when the buff doesn't exist, but I copy/paste the line in-game and /script it, and it works fine.`
`16:15.33`	`SpiderBK`	`i dont find it there`
`16:15.39`	`SpiderBK`	`has the name changed?`
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`16:16.07`	`Gagorian`	`Well, it's possible the buffid isn't allocated yet at CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS`
`16:16.18`	`Gagorian`	`Can't remember`
`16:16.30`	`Gagorian`	`But you could test with a delay`
`16:16.34`	`Gagorian`	`Or using another event`
`16:16.56`	`harldephin`	`SpiderBK: what version of wau would that be. the latest 1.x version deployed as a zip at wowace.com/wiki/WAU is 1.9.45.718`
`16:17.49`	`harldephin`	`and that definitely has ads`
`16:17.50`	`SpiderBK`	`hmm i just got verswion 1.9.45.600 there`
`16:18.03`	`SpiderBK`	`where can i get your version?`
`16:18.05`	`harldephin`	`that had ads too`
`16:18.15`	`SpiderBK`	`i dont see adds there`
`16:18.21`	`SpiderBK`	`-d`
`16:18.52`	`SpiderBK`	`well it doesent mater, it crashes all the time. where can i download this version of yours?`
`16:19.00`	`harldephin`	`then your network definitely does not allow WAU to connect properly without any additiona configuration`
`16:19.12`	`harldephin`	`at that same page in that same wiki`
`16:19.17`	`SpiderBK`	`can you give me a link to your version?`
`16:19.44`	`harldephin`	`well, that one?: .. http://www.wowace.com/wau/Install_WAU.zip`
`16:20.07`	`SpiderBK`	`thanks`
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`16:27.17`	`CIA-9`	`03feu * r60148 10OptiTaunt/ (Locale-frFR.lua OptiTaunt.toc):`
`16:27.17`	`CIA-9`	`OptiTaunt:`
`16:27.17`	`CIA-9`	`- added Locale-frFR.lua for french localization`
`16:27.17`	`harldephin`	`one problem with network applications developed using .net is that .net gets "stuck" pretty easily`
`16:28.05`	`harldephin`	`another one is that it doesn't seem to work properly with virtual file/directories/drives`
`16:28.47`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r60149 10Ace3/: Ace3 - copy branch to RC1 branch for developing our first release candidate ( addon devs might want to switch their externals to this - beta branch might vanish )`
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`16:30.29`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r60150 10Mapster/Libs/: Mapster: update externals`
`16:31.46`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Libs * r60151 10GatherMate/: GatherMate: update externals`
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`16:33.30`	`wereHamster`	`nevcairiel, you guys have a strange development cycle. RC's usually are just tagged and then development takes place in the main trunk until the final release.`
`16:33.58`	`nevcairiel`	`thats because of the weird layout the full svn has`
`16:34.18`	`nevcairiel`	`we dont want to work in main trunk because users and WAU considers that the "stable release" path`
`16:34.39`	`wereHamster`	`well, I mean trunk=/branches/..`
`16:35.15`	`nevcairiel`	`not like we work in tags, we just name the branches like the target of our development :)`
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`16:37.43`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60153 10kgPanels/ (Libs/ kgPanels.lua): kgPanels: updated externals`
`16:38.04`	`wereHamster`	`nevcairiel, so why exactly did you rename the branch?`
`16:38.23`	`JoshBorke`	`because Beta was achieved`
`16:38.28`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60154 10kgPanelsConfig/Libs/: kgPanelsConfig: updated externals`
`16:38.30`	`nevcairiel`	`exactly`
`16:38.30`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`16:38.45`	`JoshBorke`	`therefore teh new target is RC1`
`16:39.28`	`nevcairiel`	`its kinda stupid if you compare it to real development cycles, but we started it and now we're keeping it ;)`
`16:39.58`	`SpiderBK`	`what do i have to install for rock to work?`
`16:40.00`	`wereHamster`	`and you'll require every addon dev to change the externals whenever you feel you should rename the branch? That would piss me off..`
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`16:40.54`	`nevcairiel`	`wereHamster: actually we will probably have a version in trunk pretty soon that addon devs should set their externals on, so we'll develop in branches, and once we're sure the new changes work, push that down to trunk`
`16:41.14`	`phyber`	`Lukian: pong`
`16:41.43`	`Lukian`	`phyber, guild bank support in moneyfu please? :o`
`16:41.51`	`Lukian`	`I've started storing some of my gold there`
`16:42.18`	`nevcairiel`	`how can you know which money in the gbank is yours, and which isnt? :)`
`16:42.37`	`Lukian`	`It's a personal guild bank`
`16:43.14`	`nevcairiel`	`so you exceed the gold cap already and need to store it in your guidlbank?`
`16:43.16`	`nevcairiel`	`lucky sod`
`16:43.23`	`Cryect`	`They really should have required for guild banks their be 10+ seperate accounts actually in the guild or something :-p`
`16:43.24`	`Lukian`	`haha no, but I like to pool between my alts :p`
`16:43.57`	`Lukian`	`Cryect, I'm amused by that also ^_^`
`16:44.08`	`JoshBorke`	`meh, it's a gold sink`
`16:44.15`	`Cryect`	`Its not that much of a gold sink`
`16:44.16`	`nevcairiel`	`they should just make your characters share one gold pool (per realm and faction, anyway)`
`16:44.19`	`Cryect`	`you start another alt guild`
`16:44.27`	`Cryect`	`my GF has 2 alt guilds for Guild Banks`
`16:44.36`	`Lukian`	`^ same`
`16:44.41`	`nevcairiel`	`wtf do you need all that space for anyway?`
`16:44.48`	`nevcairiel`	`i cant fill my 2 bank alts without guilds :P`
`16:44.50`	`JoshBorke`	`why do you have 2 guild banks?`
`16:44.59`	`JoshBorke`	`nevcairiel: learn 2 pack rat more`
`16:44.59`	`Lukian`	`we hoard items :p`
`16:45.03`	`Lukian`	`and alts use them`
`16:45.11`	`Cryect`	`nevcairiel: I'm the same as you there`
`16:45.26`	`Cryect`	`I'm like there is no way you can possibly use all your herbs before the next expansion unless you just start giving them out`
`16:45.29`	`JoshBorke`	`cryect: no one cares about you, you don't even play anymore`
`16:45.37`	`nevcairiel`	`i have one alt for mining and herbing stuff, and one for the other crap`
`16:45.38`	`Cryect`	`I'm playing again :-p`
`16:45.50`	`Cryect`	`so how's your new guild btw?`
`16:46.08`	`Lukian`	`1x guild bank tab = 1x free character slot :p`
`16:46.17`	`JoshBorke`	`good, they got rage down so we have 25 attuned to BT`
`16:46.25`	`JoshBorke`	`hopefully i'll get my vashj vial tonight`
`16:46.32`	`JoshBorke`	`have you heard of Taco Bell Crew?`
`16:46.41`	`Cryect`	`nice, are you in that guild then that like a bunch of our members went to help trhem on Rage?`
`16:46.44`	`Cryect`	`ah yes!`
`16:46.48`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
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`16:46.56`	`JoshBorke`	`wasn't that swell of you =P`
`16:47.01`	`Cryect`	`I was like wtf at how long they spent on Rage`
`16:47.15`	`Cryect`	`I heard they were going to go do just the first boss of Hyjal`
`16:47.32`	`Cryect`	`and then took 4 or 5 hours since hadn't realized they hadnt' killed them before`
`16:47.34`	`JoshBorke`	`how long did it take them?`
`16:47.51`	`Cryect`	`I finally got around to getting my epic flight form that night`
`16:47.52`	`JoshBorke`	`isn't rage supposed to be easy?`
`16:47.56`	`JoshBorke`	`grats!`
`16:47.56`	`Cryect`	`yes`
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`16:48.11`	`JoshBorke`	`oh geeze, well, at least i'll get to wipe on T6 content instead ofT5`
`16:48.12`	`Cryect`	`well it was a pain because at first I was waiting for someone in that hyjal raid :-p`
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`16:49.08`	`JoshBorke`	`the first time they went to rage they only had 18 and got him to like 80%`
`16:49.33`	`nevcairiel`	`you can kill rage with 18`
`16:49.34`	`nevcairiel`	`o.O`
`16:49.45`	`Cryect`	`if you don't know what rage does it could be an issue I guess`
`16:49.55`	`JoshBorke`	`i'm new to the guild, so don't ask me`
`16:49.59`	`Vangual`	`oh pretty sparkling red bubbles!`
`16:50.00`	`JoshBorke`	`i don't have either of my vials yet`
`16:51.29`	`JoshBorke`	`cryect, come clear ST for me =D`
`16:51.41`	`Cryect`	`ST?`
`16:51.52`	`JoshBorke`	`sunken temple, i need teh feathers from the trolls on my lock`
`16:51.56`	`Cryect`	`oh`
`16:51.59`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`16:52.04`	`Cryect`	`can I go get some lunch first?`
`16:52.19`	`JoshBorke`	`but of course`
`16:52.29`	`Cryect`	`alright back in like 30 minutes then I will run you through`
`16:52.37`	`JoshBorke`	`woot!`
`16:54.47`	`JoshBorke`	`where should one go at 55?`
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`16:54.56`	`JoshBorke`	`WPL? Burning Steppes?`
`16:55.16`	`Firelemming`	`evening all`
`16:55.31`	`nevcairiel`	`WPL or even EPL`
`16:56.21`	`JoshBorke`	`i want to level as quickly as possible :-D affliction locks ftw!`
`16:56.59`	`Lukian`	`AV & cloth handins :)`
`16:57.00`	`Ellipsis`	`^`
`16:57.01`	`nevcairiel`	`somewhere around 64 or so you'll consider going demo, the stupid mobs get too much HP for only doting :D`
`16:57.16`	`CIA-9`	`03peragor * r60155 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.lua GridStatusHealer.toc):`
`16:57.16`	`CIA-9`	`GridStatusHealer:`
`16:57.16`	`CIA-9`	`- Added LibBanzai-20 support and fallback to older Banzai-1.1.`
`16:57.22`	`JoshBorke`	`seriously? i love dotting and fearing...`
`16:57.27`	`Estil`	`my druid is only 50% short from level 70`
`16:57.32`	`Estil`	`I cannot wait to experience the opness!`
`16:57.42`	`Ellipsis`	`nevcairiel lies`
`16:57.50`	`Ellipsis`	`aff > all`
`16:57.59`	`nevcairiel`	`Ellipsis: you probably started with epics in outlands?`
`16:58.17`	`nevcairiel`	`if you're crappy geared, like you just hit 60 =P, demo is >`
`16:58.25`	`Ellipsis`	`yes well I also leveled destro`
`16:58.29`	`Ellipsis`	`but that doesn't matter`
`16:58.46`	`JoshBorke`	`what are good profs for a warlock, and if you say tailoring, so help me god...`
`16:58.54`	`Kirkburn`	`I love demo, but I'm trying afflic for once`
`16:59.03`	`nevcairiel`	`tailoring for the shadoweave set`
`16:59.05`	`nevcairiel`	`its ftw`
`16:59.08`	`Ellipsis`	`JoshBorke: well you're going to have to get your FSW one way or another :P`
`16:59.16`	`Gagorian`	`JoshBorke: Enchanting`
`16:59.18`	`JoshBorke`	`you all can go fuck yourselves :-P`
`16:59.20`	`Lukian`	`tailoring, enchanting, engineering`
`16:59.21`	`Ellipsis`	`honestly the best profession for a lock is first aid`
`16:59.25`	`Ellipsis`	`other than that it's whatever works for you`
`16:59.29`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`16:59.31`	`Lukian`	`jewelcrafting, maybe`
`16:59.37`	`JoshBorke`	`i've done teh 1-375 tailoring once already`
`16:59.47`	`Gagorian`	`Best is enchanting, rest doesn't matter`
`16:59.49`	`Lukian`	`oh wait!`
`16:59.51`	`Lukian`	`Alchemy`
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`16:59.55`	`kagaro`	`bah 2 hrs and only 3 fel lotus what a jip`
`17:00.04`	`Gagorian`	`Alchemy is nice for Mad Alchemist's yes`
`17:00.09`	`Gagorian`	`Rest is useless`
`17:00.11`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm going eng/mining, just so I can get the mount ;P`
`17:00.12`	`nevcairiel`	`you can get pretty decent equip without FSW, but its still seriously OP :P`
`17:00.13`	`JoshBorke`	`hm`
`17:00.16`	`Lukian`	`Yeah, Mad Alc's for warlock`
`17:00.23`	`Lukian`	`because they use health and mana equally!`
`17:00.35`	`JoshBorke`	`i've not done alchemy`
`17:00.56`	`nevcairiel`	`alchemy is easy`
`17:01.20`	`JoshBorke`	`when would i replace FSW?`
`17:01.26`	`JoshBorke`	`T5 or T6?`
`17:01.30`	`Ellipsis`	`BT`
`17:01.30`	`kagaro`	`John im still using peices now in tk`
`17:01.32`	`nevcairiel`	`t6 probably`
`17:01.33`	`Gagorian`	`T6 really`
`17:01.37`	`kagaro`	`s/John/Joshe`
`17:01.37`	`JoshBorke`	`gd`
`17:01.49`	`JoshBorke`	`i hate you kagaro`
`17:01.53`	`nevcairiel`	`i think the boots are un-replacable`
`17:01.55`	`Gagorian`	`Vashj chest replaces FSW chest`
`17:02.02`	`Ellipsis`	`hey now JoshBorke, that's not fair to kagaro`
`17:02.04`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah the bots are #1 for shadow priest`
`17:02.06`	`RaydenUni`	`boots`
`17:02.07`	`Gagorian`	`nevcairiel: Nah, Slippers of the Seacaller`
`17:02.08`	`Ellipsis`	`we all deserve equal hatred from you`
`17:02.09`	`kagaro`	`the boots are the best in game right now`
`17:02.26`	`Gagorian`	`Slippers of the seacaller beat FSW boots for warlocks`
`17:02.33`	`kagaro`	`for locks yeah`
`17:02.34`	`RaydenUni`	`is this for shadow priest or warlock?`
`17:02.39`	`nevcairiel`	`oh well, still BT`
`17:02.49`	`kagaro`	`for shadow priest .. diff story`
`17:02.52`	`RaydenUni`	`http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=6594`
`17:02.56`	`JoshBorke`	`WARLOCK`
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`17:03.02`	`RaydenUni`	`for spriest the shoulders are replaced by one piece in hyjal`
`17:03.06`	`JoshBorke`	`capslock ftl`
`17:03.18`	`RaydenUni`	`chest is replaced by a vashj or illidan drop`
`17:03.26`	`Gagorian`	`Vashj rather`
`17:03.27`	`RaydenUni`	`boots are not replaced`
`17:03.31`	`kagaro`	`vashj wont drop the chest for me`
`17:03.33`	`JoshBorke`	`!us stormreaver dagh`
`17:03.55`	`nevcairiel`	`!c us stormreaver dagh`
`17:03.57`	`ThraeBot`	`nevcairiel: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 6461 HP; 7395 Mana; 155 mana regen; 60 mp5; 146 spell crit; 109 spell hit; 922 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (1101); 230 shadow dmg (1152); 4.82% dodge; 22 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 579 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25cjtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Sun Feb 3 12:12:44 2008 EST ]]`
`17:04.18`	`JoshBorke`	`my priest is as geared as he's gonna get for a while`
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`17:04.46`	`JoshBorke`	`except for my neckpiece`
`17:04.51`	`nevcairiel`	`you need to get soulfrost enchant =P`
`17:04.52`	`JoshBorke`	`kara can kiss my fat white ass`
`17:05.20`	`RaydenUni`	`JoshBorke i got Rytsin's my first kara run`
`17:05.22`	`RaydenUni`	`:)`
`17:05.26`	`kagaro`	`JoshBorke: lrn to stamina?`
`17:05.28`	`JoshBorke`	`i've seen it drop once`
`17:05.35`	`JoshBorke`	`stamina is overrated`
`17:05.35`	`RaydenUni`	`!c u destromath raydenuni`
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`17:05.44`	`nevcairiel`	`we've had it drop the last two runs`
`17:05.49`	`RaydenUni`	`i'm as geared as i'm going to get, except for maybe a trinket and minor wand upgrae`
`17:05.49`	`nevcairiel`	`one for a spriest, one for a lock`
`17:05.59`	`RaydenUni`	`!c us destromath raydenuni`
`17:06.00`	`ThraeBot`	`RaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (14/0/46). 8251 HP; 8445 Mana; 161 mana regen; 48 mp5; 50 spell crit; 92 spell hit; 799 +spell dmg; 831 +heal; 179 frost dmg (978); 281 shadow dmg (1080); 5.62% dodge; 18 resilience; 45 shadow resist; +25 all resists;[[ TBR: 1532 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Mon Jan 28 14:45:55 2008 EST ]]`
`17:06.23`	`nevcairiel`	`i need like 3 items for best gear there is :(`
`17:06.29`	`nevcairiel`	`or 4 maybe`
`17:06.30`	`nevcairiel`	`hmm`
`17:07.53`	`RaydenUni`	`are there any trinkets for spriest that don't require a quagmirron drop?`
`17:08.01`	`RaydenUni`	`stuff that can be had up to kara?`
`17:08.03`	`kagaro`	`shruken head`
`17:08.11`	`JoshBorke`	`yes`
`17:08.12`	`kagaro`	`ohh then icon`
`17:08.17`	`JoshBorke`	`blessings deck and icon`
`17:08.22`	`kagaro`	`dark moon fair card`
`17:09.05`	`kagaro`	`if you need hit and scyer get the trinket from them`
`17:09.14`	`JoshBorke`	`...+13 healing and 5 spell damage?`
`17:09.16`	`JoshBorke`	`seriously?`
`17:09.17`	`kagaro`	`or crit + shatar`
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`17:10.19`	`JoshBorke`	`you can get girdle of ruination`
`17:10.25`	`charon`	`nevcairiel: do you run a german client and log combat? if so, could you check something for me`
`17:10.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i will never run the german client again`
`17:11.01`	`JoshBorke`	`RaydenUni: get +7 damage at least =P`
`17:11.03`	`charon`	`hehe.`
`17:11.35`	`RaydenUni`	`JoshBorke oh yeah`
`17:11.39`	`RaydenUni`	`need to get my +9's`
`17:11.47`	`RaydenUni`	`the +13healing were free`
`17:11.58`	`RaydenUni`	`i'm aldor :(`
`17:12.09`	`RaydenUni`	`and i already have Icon`
`17:12.26`	`RaydenUni`	`how much does the blessings deck cost?`
`17:12.46`	`RaydenUni`	`<JoshBorke> you can get girdle of ruination <-- yeah, i'm poor though. :)`
`17:12.50`	`kagaro`	`1500 on my server`
`17:12.52`	`Lukian`	`!p Blessings Deck`
`17:12.53`	`ThraeBot`	`Lukian: Name: Blessings Deck; Vendor: 20g; Deposit (24h): 12g; Auction (All): 1999g 11s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]`
`17:13.36`	`JoshBorke`	`the blessings deck is uber expensive`
`17:13.41`	`JoshBorke`	`you're better off getting the girdle`
`17:13.45`	`JoshBorke`	`it's not THAT expensive`
`17:14.34`	`Ellipsis`	`I can has bump? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311145457&sid=1`
`17:15.19`	`RaydenUni`	`i thought girdle was about 3000g`
`17:15.34`	`JoshBorke`	`RaydenUni: you're a tailor, you can craft all the mats yourself`
`17:15.38`	`JoshBorke`	`!p Girdle of Ruination`
`17:15.39`	`ThraeBot`	`JoshBorke: Name: Girdle of Ruination; Vendor: 2g 19s 60c; Deposit (24h): 1g 31s 76c; Auction (All): 1150g; Disenchant (All): 26g 92s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]`
`17:15.43`	`RaydenUni`	`JoshBorke we don't raid where the mats drop`
`17:15.53`	`JoshBorke`	`RaydenUni: you're thinking of Belt of Blasting`
`17:16.02`	`RaydenUni`	`oh`
`17:16.19`	`RaydenUni`	`i am`
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`17:17.16`	`RaydenUni`	`hmm`
`17:17.22`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah ruination wouldn't be hard to get`
`17:19.16`	`RaydenUni`	`so i have an idea for a class that i'd like to throw at you guys and get some feedback`
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`17:21.01`	`RaydenUni`	`The class is a caster whose effectiveness revolves around the balance of your party's damage and the enemy's damage.`
`17:21.15`	`_rane`	`hmm, there's a bug in Cutup`
`17:21.25`	`RaydenUni`	`If your party is doing "more" damage then they are receiving you recieve a bonus to your damage spells as well as to your debuff spells.`
`17:21.39`	`RaydenUni`	`If you party is taking more damage, then you receive a bonus to your healing spells and your party buff spells.`
`17:22.01`	`RaydenUni`	`Your buff and debuff spells would be on a really short time, ranging from "next attack" 5s, 10s.`
`17:22.23`	`RaydenUni`	`So stuff like "Target has increased chance to crit for the next 10 seconds and every time they crit you receive mana."`
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`17:22.44`	`RaydenUni`	`Because you receive a bonus to spells based on the situation, your role would change depending on the fight.`
`17:23.04`	`Cryect`	`the last thing WoW needs is more classes`
`17:23.08`	`Ellipsis`	`how does the class function solo?`
`17:23.33`	`Cryect`	`JoshBorke: msg me ingame in one second`
`17:23.35`	`RaydenUni`	`Well when you solo you do more damage than you receieve right? So your damage spells are bonused.`
`17:23.53`	`RaydenUni`	`Specs could be stuff like: healing, buff, damage.`
`17:23.58`	`CIA-9`	`03feu * r60156 10RaidStatus/: Removed file/folder`
`17:24.18`	`Ellipsis`	`so basically when you're fighting something easy you get uber +dmg and if you're getting owned you get uber +heal`
`17:24.24`	`Ellipsis`	`that doesn't seem a bit odd to you?`
`17:24.38`	`RaydenUni`	`i know this won't be added to wow, but i like designing games and it could be a cool idea in the future. And WoW is a good setting to think about it.`
`17:24.55`	`RaydenUni`	`Ellipsis if it's reversed then you are pretty useless.`
`17:25.15`	`RaydenUni`	`When your group is winning you can heal, but no one needs healing, and if you are losing then you can damage more but people will die.`
`17:26.14`	`RaydenUni`	`But maybe have you spells be about 50% of a main dps or healing class and buffed to 90% depending on the situation.`
`17:26.21`	`Ellipsis`	`I think it's a fail idea, not to mention that implementation (especially in WoW) would be a pain`
`17:26.32`	`Ellipsis`	`but that's just IMHO`
`17:26.40`	`RaydenUni`	`why though? :)`
`17:26.58`	`RaydenUni`	`I'm fine if the idea sucks, but I'd like to know why so I can understand your thoughts.`
`17:27.29`	`JoshBorke`	`very hard to solo with`
`17:27.33`	`RaydenUni`	`There is a class in Warhammer online (i think) who has to balance offensive and defensive spells. If you cast all offensive spells they get weaker and your healing spells are stronger, or something like that.`
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`17:27.36`	`Ellipsis`	`well, balancing a class based on party combat doesn't make sense in other situations`
`17:27.45`	`JoshBorke`	`very hard to PvP with`
`17:27.53`	`Ellipsis`	`yeah, that's the opposite of what you're suggesting RaydenUni`
`17:27.56`	`RaydenUni`	`i know`
`17:28.02`	`Ellipsis`	`it encourages you to heal if you're doing damage and do damage if you're healing`
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`17:28.07`	`RaydenUni`	`i think that system has limitations`
`17:28.11`	`Ellipsis`	`your idea encourages extreme playstyles`
`17:28.13`	`RaydenUni`	`if your party doesn't need healing then you are worthless`
`17:28.34`	`RaydenUni`	`and if your party does need healing then you shouldn't be wasting time attacking`
`17:28.35`	`Lukian`	`is "Windfury Attack" nature damage?`
`17:28.47`	`JoshBorke`	`Lukian: physical`
`17:28.47`	`Kivin`	`No, physical`
`17:28.55`	`Ellipsis`	`it's a class you'd end up playing either like a mage/rogue (kill fast so you don't die) or like a pally (heal things to death)`
`17:28.56`	`Lukian`	`cheers`
`17:29.13`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah?`
`17:29.13`	`Ellipsis`	`you're only considering party play`
`17:29.23`	`RaydenUni`	`I've spent a short bit of time thinking about solo play.`
`17:29.28`	`Ellipsis`	`it would make a great support class, you're right`
`17:29.33`	`RaydenUni`	`But yeah you would pick this class to play support.`
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`17:29.37`	`Ellipsis`	`but it doesn't make sense solo, or in pvp`
`17:29.48`	`RaydenUni`	`So maybe it doesn't fit with WoW, I know some classes in guild wars are sort of like this.`
`17:30.23`	`RaydenUni`	`Maybe you have a spell that forces your "polarity" to be offensive for a few seconds, to give you an oppurtunity to do damage right away and build it up.`
`17:30.43`	`RaydenUni`	`Of course you'd need an emergency spell that reverses polarity for 30 seconds. :D 10 min cooldown`
`17:31.12`	`RaydenUni`	`What really intruiges me is that you aren't managing energy or rage or mana like other classes, you are managing the balance as well as playing with short lived buffs.`
`17:31.31`	`Ellipsis`	`er`
`17:31.40`	`Ellipsis`	`what power type would the class have? I assumed mana`
`17:31.41`	`RaydenUni`	`although really the short lived buffs is seperate idea and doesn't necessarily ahve to be associated`
`17:31.54`	`RaydenUni`	`probably mana`
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`17:32.09`	`RaydenUni`	`although an extreme design would only use the "balance" as a resource`
`17:32.37`	`RaydenUni`	`Death Knights use a different kind of resource don't they?`
`17:32.49`	`Ellipsis`	`the thing that I don't get about your idea is ultimately it's taking choice away from the player`
`17:33.15`	`Ellipsis`	`it's like a druid who gets forced into different forms based on what the rest of his party is doing`
`17:33.20`	`Lukian`	`death knights are cooldown based, if you've done the NW chain in SMV, you've played a rudimentary death knight as "Teron Gorefiend"`
`17:33.24`	`RaydenUni`	`It does, which is why I thought it would be nice to not have only damage or healing but also debuff and buff as options.`
`17:33.41`	`RaydenUni`	`I need to do that sometime.`
`17:34.06`	`RaydenUni`	`Ellipsis in all probability by tomorrow I will have decided that this is a dumb idea, but for now I'm trying to run with it. :)`
`17:34.19`	`Lukian`	`Death and Decay is win ^_^`
`17:34.28`	`Lukian`	`I hope they keep that in the playableclass`
`17:34.35`	`Ellipsis`	`Lukian: I doubt that's even remotely like playing a real death knight`
`17:34.53`	`Lukian`	`Ellipsis, as I said, rudimentary :)`
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`17:35.01`	`RaydenUni`	`DK uses several different runes that you activate multiple of to cast a spell and then the runes have to regen before they can be used again?`
`17:35.12`	`Lukian`	`You'll have defense spells, like the shield, you'll have offense spells, like haste and d+d.`
`17:35.29`	`JoshBorke`	`i just want everyone to know, that cryect rocks`
`17:35.51`	`RaydenUni`	`i guess what i'm really trying to do is come up with a class that doesn't fall into the triad`
`17:35.55`	`Lukian`	`I'm waiting for phyber to rock atm ^_^`
`17:36.08`	`Lukian`	`dps, heal, tank?`
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`17:36.32`	`RaydenUni`	`yep`
`17:36.33`	`Lukian`	`You are aiming for a hybrid of two in your idea?`
`17:36.45`	`RaydenUni`	`no tanking`
`17:36.53`	`dylanm`	`JoshBorke: What'd he do?`
`17:36.54`	`RaydenUni`	`but healing/dps and then buffs which would be new`
`17:37.03`	`JoshBorke`	`dylanm: he's running me through ST`
`17:37.06`	`Lukian`	`Deathknight, as far as we know, does the dps+heal hybrid, maybe you'll get you heal+dps hybrid later ;)`
`17:37.07`	`RaydenUni`	`but even without the balance, a buff class could be fun`
`17:37.19`	`Lukian`	`s/dps+heal/dps+tank/`
`17:37.27`	`RaydenUni`	`i have no expectation that something like this would make it into the game`
`17:38.04`	`RaydenUni`	`but since i plan on making my own games eventually it's fun to think about`
`17:38.55`	`RaydenUni`	`and i love discussing design, in case you hadn't figured that out :)`
`17:39.54`	`dylanm`	`JoshBorke: He's a good man then :) what're you leveling?`
`17:40.11`	`RaydenUni`	`maybe my playing a druid recently is affecting me`
`17:40.18`	`Cryect`	`hmm`
`17:40.25`	`JoshBorke`	`dylanm: warlock`
`17:40.32`	`RaydenUni`	`i love casting Barkskin, hurricane, then switch to a bear and help tank`
`17:41.10`	`RaydenUni`	`or dps'ing as a cat, switching out to cast tranquility`
`17:41.30`	`vithos`	`what about tank+heal? maybe something like, damage taken occasionally causes healing to be done to the raid`
`17:41.36`	`Lukian`	`You should try tanking, and utilising tranq at exactly the right moment for healing and threat :)`
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`17:41.39`	`dylanm`	`JoshBorke: Same here with the spriest and warlock alt :p`
`17:41.54`	`Lukian`	`sethekk first boss is grand for that ^_^`
`17:41.54`	`JoshBorke`	`what profs you going with? ^_^`
`17:42.00`	`dylanm`	`It kinda seems natural.`
`17:42.07`	`RaydenUni`	`Lukian if only you wouldn't die from it :D`
`17:42.28`	`dylanm`	`Herbalism and mining on the alt. Never buying anything ever again.`
`17:42.32`	`RaydenUni`	`vithos druids sort of have something like that with their crit => heal`
`17:42.42`	`vithos`	`true, but that's not the druids crits triggering it`
`17:42.45`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`17:42.55`	`Lukian`	`RaydenUni, they are elementals, you take equal damage regardless of bear form or caster form, you just lose 2k hp (which is easily topped up) :D`
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`17:43.12`	`RaydenUni`	`what?`
`17:43.19`	`RaydenUni`	`what are elementals?`
`17:43.29`	`Lukian`	`sethekk first boss :p`
`17:43.46`	`RaydenUni`	`who brought sethekk into this?`
`17:43.50`	`Lukian`	`me`
`17:43.53`	`RaydenUni`	`oh ok`
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`17:43.57`	`RaydenUni`	`healing does 1/2 threat`
`17:44.02`	`RaydenUni`	`but i guess it would be aoe`
`17:44.05`	`RaydenUni`	`it might be fun to try`
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`17:44.12`	`Lukian`	`It works really well :D`
`17:44.27`	`RaydenUni`	`does it?`
`17:44.31`	`Lukian`	`yup`
`17:44.32`	`RaydenUni`	`for 10 seconds or whatever`
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`17:44.59`	`Kivin`	`Is there an opposite to SecureStateHeader:SetAttribute("addchild", childFrame)`
`17:46.20`	`dylanm`	`Being a recommended server is awful gawd our blood elf population has quadrupled`
`17:46.36`	`Lukian`	`rofl!!`
`17:46.46`	`durcyn`	`now you know how we feel about night-elves.`
`17:47.04`	`Lukian`	`except druids ^_^`
`17:47.11`	`sb_`	`ckknight! :o`
`17:47.18`	`ckknight`	`hey sb_`
`17:47.33`	`sb_`	`but i guess you already noticed that commit :o`
`17:47.49`	`sb_`	`missing _`
`17:48.04`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`17:48.51`	`Stanzilla`	`Kaelten: wtb fish restart plx :)`
`17:49.42`	`Stanzilla`	`btw the new fish version displays utf-8 correct now`
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`17:52.54`	`Erica`	`Is babble giving an error about well fed not found in babble zone for everyone or is it just me?`
`17:53.10`	`durcyn`	`it's not just you.`
`17:53.14`	`Stanzilla`	`not it's missing translations`
`17:53.21`	`Stanzilla`	`-t`
`17:53.44`	`Erica`	`is there a way to just disable that error for now?`
`17:53.56`	`durcyn`	`no, it's someone trying to use BZ for something they should have used BS for`
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`17:54.50`	`Erica`	`ok thanks... I can live with it since I know it isn't something wrong with my new setup :P`
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`17:57.20`	`Silviu-`	`Erica same error here :)`
`17:57.38`	`Silviu-`	`Maybe ckknight can add a short line in BabbleSpell3.0 "Well Fed" ;)`
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`17:59.17`	`durcyn`	`no, that's not the problem`
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`17:59.30`	`durcyn`	`some library or addon is attempting to find Well Fed in Babble-Zone instead of Babble-Spell`
`17:59.43`	`Lukian`	`rofl`
`17:59.56`	`Silviu-`	`And which is that ? ;-)`
`18:00.23`	`Lukian`	`ChefsToolkit, Kitchen Sink edition? :D`
`18:00.35`	`SpiderBK`	`what do i need to install to get the rock config? i cant find a rock addon`
`18:00.44`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60159 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0 - add Well Fed and Holy Vengeance`
`18:00.44`	`Lukian`	`SpiderBK, fubar?`
`18:00.59`	`durcyn`	`either that or the error is being misreported`
`18:01.37`	`SpiderBK`	`hmm i have fubar but i cant configure enhancer nor display it in fubar`
`18:02.23`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ckknight: icy veins is also missing`
`18:02.43`	`ckknight_`	`[SW]Dodge: you're free to add it`
`18:03.07`	`[SW]Dodge`	`dont i need svn access?^^`
`18:03.14`	`SpiderBK`	`how can i open the config windows for enhancer?`
`18:03.41`	`Lukian`	`rofl, there's an arena team having a go at each other in trade`
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`18:13.36`	`SpiderBK`	`ok i have several addons in fubar, what is the problem that i only see one of them in fubar config?`
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`18:14.51`	`SpiderBK`	`and why am i missing rock? shouldnt that be included in fubar?`
`18:15.55`	`Lukian`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`18:16.12`	`Lukian`	`I assume you are downloading from wowace.com ?`
`18:17.10`	`Lukian`	`Rock is a library btw, it just happens to have a nice config dialogue which is 'compatible' with quite a few addons`
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`18:20.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`if you are missing rock then uninstall FuBar and FuBar2 and reinstall FuBar`
`18:21.01`	`SpiderBK`	`so if i download from wowace.com the librarys are not included?`
`18:21.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`they are`
`18:21.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`dont install FuBar2, it is not an upgrade`
`18:22.13`	`SpiderBK`	`ok, so its better to use fubar1?`
`18:22.20`	`JoshBorke`	`it's not fubar1`
`18:22.22`	`JoshBorke`	`it's just fubar`
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`18:22.35`	`SpiderBK`	`yes i know just wanted to make it clear^^`
`18:23.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`FuBar is v3`
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`18:25.26`	`Unconquerable`	`Good Evening everyone`
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`18:25.52`	`Firelemming`	`evening unconquerable`
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`18:26.45`	`CIA-9`	`GridDynamicLayout:`
`18:26.45`	`CIA-9`	`- Bug correction when relogging into a raid`
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`18:28.30`	`Unconquerable`	`I'm trying to add certain events to BigBrother (such as people eating Bombs at Jan'alai), and whilst I have some limited scripting experience, I can't really figure it out by looking at the code, could anyone point me in the right direction?`
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`18:30.25`	`Ellipsis`	`ping [SW]Dodge`
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`18:35.54`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Ellipsis: ?`
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`18:37.22`	`Ellipsis`	`[SW]Dodge: you were reporting icy veins being missing from pitbull aura filtering?`
`18:37.47`	`[SW]Dodge`	`no, libbabble-spell-3.0`
`18:37.55`	`Ellipsis`	`oh`
`18:38.00`	`Ellipsis`	`is it in 2.2?`
`18:38.29`	`[SW]Dodge`	`yea`
`18:38.35`	`Ellipsis`	`ok`
`18:38.53`	`[SW]Dodge`	`but not the deDE translation and esES frFR afaik also not`
`18:39.11`	`Ellipsis`	`meh that's their problem`
`18:39.23`	`Stanzilla`	`Eisige Adern for deDE`
`18:39.30`	`[SW]Dodge`	`yes`
`18:40.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`just enUS zhTW koKR and the icon in 2.2`
`18:40.40`	`Stanzilla`	`Venas heladas for esES`
`18:41.13`	`Stanzilla`	`Veines glaciales for frFR`
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`18:59.05`	`CIA-9`	`Historian:`
`18:59.05`	`CIA-9`	`- Added the beginning of a standalone GUI.`
`18:59.05`	`CIA-9`	`- Added tracking of some PvP stats - more to come.`
`18:59.05`	`CIA-9`	`- Split the code up into several files, cleaned up various parts of it.`
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`19:01.57`	`[SW]Dodge`	`waaaa ._. i have 4 frames with frameType="Button" but now i see that i can't :Show() them in Fight :( is there an alternativ frame type i can use?`
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`19:02.28`	`Lukian`	`So when are blizzard adding BoP food? :D`
`19:02.33`	`Lukian`	`(from cooking)`
`19:02.53`	`[SW]Dodge`	`i have them as buttons with cooldown frame and Fontstring below`
`19:03.21`	`kenlyric`	`bop stuff for a professsion everyone can get seems a little extreme.`
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`19:06.21`	`Hjalte`	`kenlyric: too many people doesnt bother leveling it up`
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`19:16.38`	`Lukian`	`kenlyric, I have no reason to level cooking on my alts`
`19:16.57`	`kenlyric`	`do you want to have a reason? ;)`
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`19:18.33`	`JoshBorke`	`[SW]Dodge: you can't show/hide a secure button in combat`
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`19:25.08`	`CIA-9`	`03kaelten * r60164 10Ace3/:`
`19:25.08`	`CIA-9`	`Ace3 (60163):`
`19:25.08`	`CIA-9`	`- Copy from latest branch`
`19:25.08`	`CIA-9`	`- Officially entering Beta`
`19:25.08`	`CIA-9`	`- API is soft Frozen (won't change without a VERY good reason)`
`19:25.09`	`CIA-9`	`- From here forward Ace3 Libraries will have their minor versions incremented.`
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`19:26.03`	`*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://files.wowace.com/ \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org \| Ace3 now in beta! \|WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9, currently 45% off via preorder! \| Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.`
`19:26.31`	`Merl_`	`=)`
`19:26.40`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r60165 10Mapster/Libs/: Mapster: update externals to Ace3 trunk`
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`19:28.06`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Libs * r60166 10GatherMate/: GatherMate: update externals to Ace3 trunk`
`19:28.57`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60167 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: updated config mockup`
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`19:29.24`	`sb_`	`oh ace3 trunk`
`19:29.25`	`sb_`	`nice`
`19:29.27`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r60168 10Routes/: Routes: update externals to Ace3 trunk`
`19:30.39`	`[SW]Dodge`	`JoshBorke: is there an other way to show hide frames? i dont need the cooldown frame on it, just a simple frame with a spel texture and an text below`
`19:30.53`	`JoshBorke`	`[SW]Dodge: you can show/hide any non secure frame`
`19:30.57`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60169 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua:`
`19:30.57`	`CIA-9`	`BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit:`
`19:30.57`	`CIA-9`	`-fix koKR; Kaz'Rogal,Az'Galor Wave`
`19:30.57`	`CIA-9`	`-different talk to Thrall for start(According to genders)`
`19:31.29`	`CIA-9`	`03crashmstr * r60170 10ASSBlock/ASSBlock.lua:`
`19:31.29`	`CIA-9`	`ASSBlock:`
`19:31.29`	`CIA-9`	`- Added self: reference to IsFriend in guild func`
`19:31.35`	`Aeyan`	`Ace3 beta, sweet`
`19:32.13`	`Zariel`	`Oh nice, now gief 2.4 need to make some new combat addons with ace3`
`19:32.30`	`nevcairiel`	`i hope they get PTR out this week`
`19:32.43`	`[SW]Dodge`	`JoshBorke: how can i create a non secure frame? :/`
`19:32.59`	`JoshBorke`	`pastey your previous code`
`19:33.08`	`[SW]Dodge`	`all?`
`19:33.13`	`JoshBorke`	`sure`
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`19:34.03`	`[SW]Dodge`	`http://rafb.net/p/Mo1V0R40.html core.lua`
`19:34.11`	`[SW]Dodge`	`http://rafb.net/p/9C6n1v57.html template.xml`
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`19:36.04`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60171 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0 - add Icy Veins`
`19:36.12`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60172 10kgPanelsConfig/Config.lua: kgPanelsConfig: secondary config example`
`19:36.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`arcanite steam-pistol is surely a good upgrade from malchezzaar's bow for rogues, right?`
`19:37.17`	`Teza`	`ye`
`19:37.25`	`Teza`	`it is`
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`19:39.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`reassurance is good`
`19:39.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`;)`
`19:41.14`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro * r60173 10GatherMate/: GatherMate: beta update to trunk`
`19:41.32`	`JoshBorke`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:41.43`	`JoshBorke`	`see how it says "SecureActionButtonTemplate", means it is secure`
`19:42.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`what can i use instead? (i copied the xml and modified it a little bit)`
`19:43.03`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60174 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - stylize custom texts nicely`
`19:43.03`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro * r60175 10GatherMate_Data/: GatherMate_Data: beta update to trunk`
`19:43.12`	`Zariel`	`is there a variable to check if blizzards combat text is enabled?`
`19:43.43`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro * r60176 10GatherMate_CartImport/: GatherMate_Data: beta update to trunk`
`19:46.39`	`CIA-9`	`03barfolomeu * r60177 10FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD4.tga FlightHUD5.tga):`
`19:46.39`	`CIA-9`	`FlightHUD: Added transparency to the artificial horizon graphic.`
`19:46.39`	`CIA-9`	`Added a heading hash mark.`
`19:47.23`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60178 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - turn tags-as-modifiers from [Tag:Tag] into [Tag \| Tag], for syntactical clarity. No tags are broken because of this, as it updates automatically.`
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`19:55.56`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro * r60179 10GatherMate_Data/ (HerbalismData.lua MiningData.lua): GatherMate_Data: weekly data harvest via cron`
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`19:56.35`	`Unconquerable`	`I'm trying to add certain events to BigBrother (such as people eating Bombs at Jan'alai), and whilst I have some limited scripting experience, I can't really figure it out by looking at the code, could anyone point me in the right direction?`
`19:56.35`	`[SW]Dodge`	`JoshBorke: got it =)) <3`
`19:58.01`	`JoshBorke`	`i'm glad`
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`19:58.01`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Unconquerable: you mean add new events like sheep break etc?`
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`19:58.01`	`Unconquerable`	`Well, yes? ultimately I'm not sure`
`19:58.01`	`Unconquerable`	`but its combat log at any rate`
`19:58.12`	`[4K^wallen]`	`Hello, is anyone else having issues at retrieving addons' list while using wowace?`
`19:58.39`	`Unconquerable`	`I did once, and it turned out to be my firewall, even though I added it to its exception list...`
`19:58.42`	`[4K^wallen]`	`nevermind, it just got retrieved :\|`
`19:59.03`	`[4K^wallen]`	`it's been a while since I used wowaceupdater, it was just faster in the past I guess`
`19:59.26`	`Primer`	`I found Jwowupdater to be better`
`19:59.37`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60180 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Status.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - remove the ~Status tag, as it doesn't seem to be working properly`
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`19:59.51`	`Primer`	`as WAU started crashing the .net runtime (or was it the other way around? :)`
`20:00.19`	`Primer`	`plus you can manage curse and wowinterface addons with JWU`
`20:01.06`	`CIA-9`	`03nogudnik * r60181 10Skillet/ (SkilletStitch-1.1.lua UI/MainFrame.lua UI/MainFrame.xml):`
`20:01.06`	`CIA-9`	`Skillet:`
`20:01.06`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:01.06`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:01.06`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:01.08`	`tinderbox`	`sorry, dc'd so may have missed a potential answer.. anyone know if baggins is broken atm?`
`20:01.40`	`Unconquerable`	`2/3 18:26:20.175 Fire Bomb hits Fireshuriken for 7770 Fire damage.`
`20:01.43`	`Unconquerable`	`thats what it looks like`
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`20:02.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Unconquerable: look at the CCBreaer function at bottom of the BigBrother.lua an there try to understand how it works. i think it should not be hard`
`20:02.51`	`simlan`	`Hello! I need an event that is called periodically, like every second, how do I implement that?`
`20:03.19`	`array{Endeavour}`	`OnUpdate?`
`20:03.49`	`Unconquerable`	`I will, dodge, I'll be back :)`
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`20:04.10`	`tinderbox`	`if a release file is like Baggins-r58453.3.zip what is the .3 ?`
`20:04.22`	`JoshBorke`	`local interval = 1; local f = CreateFrame"Frame"; f:SetScript(OnUpdate, function(self, elapsed) interval = interval - elapsed; if interval < 0 then interval = 1; ChatFrame1:AddMessage("I am running 1 time a second") end end) f:Show()`
`20:04.40`	`vithos`	`updated embedded libraries`
`20:05.02`	`JoshBorke`	`sorry`
`20:05.07`	`JoshBorke`	`local interval = 1; local f = CreateFrame"Frame"; f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) interval = interval - elapsed; if interval < 0 then interval = 1; ChatFrame1:AddMessage("I am running 1 time a second") end end) f:Show()`
`20:05.10`	`tinderbox`	`hmm.. i think one of baggins' embedded libraries is borked then`
`20:05.17`	`simlan`	`JoshBorke, thanks`
`20:06.28`	`Ellipsis`	`tinderbox: having problems with it?`
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`20:08.19`	`tinderbox`	`Ellipsis: im actually tracking it down to baggins_outfitter now`
`20:08.25`	`tinderbox`	`looks like an API change in outfitter`
`20:08.39`	`tinderbox`	`Outfitter:GetBagItemInfo() became Outfitter_GetBagItemInfo`
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`20:08.54`	`Nargiddley`	`other way around`
`20:09.48`	`tinderbox`	`ahh.. my WUU was ignoring outfitter for some reason`
`20:10.11`	`CIA-9`	`03nogudnik * r60182 10Skillet/SkilletStitch-1.1.lua:`
`20:10.11`	`CIA-9`	`Skillet:`
`20:10.11`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:10.11`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:10.54`	`tinderbox`	`hmm.. and is still ignoring outfitter even when it set it up`
`20:11.26`	`tinderbox`	`heh.. because it looks like someone packaged their .svn directories with it`
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`20:17.36`	`CIA-9`	`03elsia * r60183 10Recount/Recount.lua:`
`20:17.36`	`CIA-9`	`Recount:`
`20:17.36`	`CIA-9`	`- Fix for time data not yet initialized when in combat and time data being tracked.`
`20:18.33`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60184 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (11 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:18.33`	`CIA-9`	`LibDogTag-2.0 - bugfix with :FixCodeStyle`
`20:18.33`	`CIA-9`	`- fix aliases for modules to be the proper code style`
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`20:19.39`	`tinderbox`	`is there a wowace version of itemrack/outfitter ?`
`20:20.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`closetgnome`
`20:21.10`	`Hjalte`	`Does anyone know if Recount works out the DPS by time you dps or total fight-time?`
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`20:21.31`	`Cryect`	`time you DPS`
`20:21.47`	`Cryect`	`you can see the breakdown of your time you spent etc`
`20:21.53`	`kebinusan`	`is it a good or bad thing when people start making penises out of snowballs in your guild bank`
`20:21.56`	`Cryect`	`basically the time it shows you were active damaging is the time it uses`
`20:22.17`	`Olison`	`how awesome, wow crashes when i try to copy the Guild tag from the linetext edit screen -.-`
`20:22.23`	`Olison`	`and back to tinytip :D`
`20:22.30`	`kebinusan`	`sssss`
`20:22.36`	`kebinusan`	`bleh wrong window`
`20:23.06`	`Olison`	`yeah totally, screw me, a wowcrash is the right way to teach me to use a editor`
`20:23.12`	`Olison`	`>_>`
`20:23.23`	`Stanzilla`	`5 Illidan kills, 2 Warglaives`
`20:23.26`	`Stanzilla`	`is that normal?`
`20:23.32`	`Olison`	`no`
`20:23.39`	`Olison`	`you cheat, obviously`
`20:23.50`	`Stanzilla`	`:(`
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`20:24.07`	`Cryect`	`5 illidan kills and 5 shards of azzinoth would be normal though`
`20:24.27`	`Olison`	`or bulwarks -.-`
`20:24.36`	`Cryect`	`we've only ever got 1 bulwark`
`20:24.38`	`Stanzilla`	`we never had the shard`
`20:24.47`	`Cryect`	`tons of shards though`
`20:24.55`	`Stanzilla`	`we had 1 bulwark that was doubled by silly GM mistakes :D`
`20:24.59`	`Cryect`	`outfitting our mages & priests with them`
`20:25.06`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Libs * r60185 10GatherMate_Sharing/: GatherMate_Sharing: udpated externals`
`20:25.24`	`Stanzilla`	`and we had 3 bows`
`20:26.13`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60186 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua:`
`20:26.13`	`CIA-9`	`LibBabble-Spell-3.0`
`20:26.13`	`CIA-9`	`- koKR Update`
`20:26.46`	`CIA-9`	`03funkydude * r60187 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: revert string.find changes, don't change the module for locales, fix your locales to be exact.`
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`20:30.34`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60188 10CowTip/Position/Position.lua: CowTip_Position - fix issues with adjust for cursor and parent frame not being applied properly`
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`20:32.10`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60189 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua:`
`20:32.10`	`CIA-9`	`Recount:`
`20:32.10`	`CIA-9`	`- koKR Update`
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`20:32.57`	`Knaledge`	`anyone else having an issue with ClosetGnome not switching back from riding gear?`
`20:33.09`	`Knaledge`	`I've done all I can think of and it's not working correctly, imo`
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`20:33.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Knaledge: i use mountme for handling riding gear`
`20:33.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`works nicely`
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`20:34.25`	`Knaledge`	`hrm.. mountme`
`20:34.31`	`Knaledge`	`ok I'll check that out`
`20:34.48`	`Knaledge`	`What's happening is that it switches fine... like if I tell it to switch gear.`
`20:34.57`	`Knaledge`	`but as soon as I mount, it switches to riding gear.`
`20:35.19`	`Knaledge`	`dismount, and it keeps my riding gear. All the time. No matter what - deleting all saved vars, wiping the interface folder for it..`
`20:35.23`	`Knaledge`	`it's just "broken"`
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`20:36.30`	`Knaledge`	`mountme?`
`20:36.32`	`Knaledge`	`or mountup`
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`20:37.41`	`CIA-9`	`03simlan * r60190 10GetDKP_AutoPost/ (GetDKP_AutoPost.lua Locale_deDE.lua Locale_enUS.lua): GetDKP_AutoPost: Reorganized the Fu menu`
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`20:50.40`	`tinderbox`	`ok.. weird question but bear with me.. is there any way to run code using wow's macro language from inside a lua function? like if i have a string that contains "/castrandom Foo, Bar" can i execute that from LUA (assuming im in the proper execution chain from a user-initiated action, etc)`
`20:50.41`	`krka`	`tinderbox: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.`
`20:50.59`	`tinderbox`	`krka: how informative`
`20:52.03`	`tinderbox`	`also, is there anything like http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_From_Disassembly that also shows the name/type of potential arguments to those events?`
`20:55.11`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60191 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: added layout selection to config mockup`
`20:55.43`	`CIA-9`	`03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r60192 10Cartographer_Sidelist/Cartographer_Sidelist.lua:`
`20:55.43`	`CIA-9`	`Cartographer_Sidelist`
`20:55.43`	`CIA-9`	`- add option to include vendor's and trainer's type in note title shown in`
`20:55.44`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:55.44`	`CIA-9`	`- add option to sort on vendor/trainer type or title`
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`21:05.59`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60193 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix issue with nil code`
`21:06.07`	`[SW]Dodge`	`is there something like "continue;" in for-loops? i want to cancle the current loop an start the next`
`21:06.29`	`ckknight_`	`no`
`21:06.31`	`ckknight_`	`not in lua`
`21:06.38`	`[SW]Dodge`	`mhm damn`
`21:08.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`if not (condition to continue on) then [code to execeute normally] end;`
`21:08.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`there's your continue :P`
`21:08.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`heh, i did it like that^^`
`21:09.00`	`Fisker-`	`btw ckknight_ did you have any idea why grid did not accept your tooltip change?`
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`21:09.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`but i didnt use "not (conditio)" i changed my condition from a>b to a<b :P`
`21:09.36`	`Jeraimee`	`Anyone have any input on transferring to Medivh (H mage)?`
`21:10.32`	`Jeraimee`	`I'm looking to leave Suramar for a more progressive pve server and I figured this is the best place to ask :)`
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`21:20.58`	`tinderbox`	`is the author of fubar_questsfu around?`
`21:21.05`	`Orionshock`	`? gathermate in the trunk?`
`21:21.13`	`[SW]Dodge`	`uhm what is the purpose of new() in "local variable = new();" ??`
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`21:21.36`	`Orionshock`	`[SW]Dodge: table recycling`
`21:21.38`	`Hobby`	`it makes a new one`
`21:21.42`	`Hobby`	`no mroe silly questions`
`21:21.51`	`kagaro`	`Orionshock: yes Ace3 went beta`
`21:21.59`	`Orionshock`	`aparently`
`21:22.37`	`Orionshock`	`well well, time to do some updates then to a mod or 2`
`21:23.09`	`Hobby`	`thanks those that recommended the ag -> pitbull change`
`21:23.21`	`Hobby`	`much happier with the fine tuning`
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`21:26.49`	`CIA-9`	`03orionshock * r60194 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`21:26.49`	`CIA-9`	`SickOfClickingDailies:`
`21:26.50`	`CIA-9`	`-Update this to Ace3 version :P`
`21:27.58`	`Fisker-`	`nooooooooooooo uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Orionshock`
`21:28.46`	`Orionshock`	`?`
`21:29.18`	`Orionshock`	`tbh, only reason it even uses ace3 is for the config table and db lib.`
`21:29.24`	`Orionshock`	`...that's really it.`
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`21:29.54`	`nevcairiel`	`the good thing about Ace3 is, you can choose to only use those parts, and nothing else! :)`
`21:30.33`	`nevcairiel`	`you dont even need AceAddon-3.0`
`21:30.34`	`Hobby`	`Is there a page with the highligts of Ace2->3 changes?`
`21:30.36`	`Orionshock`	`nevcairiel: LibStub, what's the prefered method for inclusion? just copy the file in or external?`
`21:31.16`	`nevcairiel`	`i would copy the file in, but external should work equally`
`21:31.32`	`Orionshock`	`tags or branches?`
`21:31.58`	`nevcairiel`	`1.0 tag of libstub`
`21:32.01`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:35.53`	`Aeyan`	`Hobby: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Differences_from_Ace2_to_Ace3`
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`21:43.15`	`Hobby`	`ty`
`21:43.39`	`CIA-9`	`03endeavour * r60195 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua):`
`21:43.39`	`CIA-9`	`BossTalk:`
`21:43.39`	`CIA-9`	`- new option: quote on events`
`21:43.39`	`CIA-9`	`- some minor features added`
`21:43.39`	`CIA-9`	`- code cleanup + minor bugfixes`
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`21:44.14`	`CIA-9`	`03orionshock * r60196 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (. SickOfClickingDailies.toc core.lua embeds.xml libs/):`
`21:44.14`	`CIA-9`	`SickOfClickingDailies:`
`21:44.14`	`CIA-9`	`-fix externals n' such`
`21:44.14`	`CIA-9`	`-Translations are cool :D`
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`21:45.39`	`Orionshock`	`to move guild craft over here.... oo so tempting... a multitude of unsuspecting testers that update religiously and bitch endlessly :D`
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`21:51.31`	`ramoz`	`religiously?`
`21:52.21`	`Orionshock`	`yes spelled correctly somehow :P`
`21:52.28`	`ramoz`	`i mean`
`21:52.43`	`ramoz`	`i like wowace, but not as a religion`
`21:52.44`	`ramoz`	`regularly perhaps?`
`21:53.12`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`22:12.30`	`Lothaer`	`hey any1 know WTF is wrong with WAU?`
`22:13.12`	`ulic`	`I get an error after a scan, but it still works fine.`
`22:14.39`	`Lothaer`	`"An unexpected error has occurred. Please make sure you are connected to the Internet and restart the application.`
`22:14.39`	`Lothaer`	`Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt."`
`22:14.49`	`Lothaer`	`i keep getting this`
`22:15.05`	`[dRaCo]`	`fine here, must be something on your end`
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`22:15.35`	`Lothaer`	`grrr`
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`22:16.26`	`Lothaer`	`any idea what could be causing it?\`
`22:16.46`	`[dRaCo]`	`first guess would be a firewall screwing around with something`
`22:16.49`	`Polarina`	`Lothaer: Corrupted memory.`
`22:16.54`	`[dRaCo]`	`but you prolly checked that`
`22:17.01`	`Lothaer`	`i dont have a firewall`
`22:17.07`	`Lothaer`	`well i do`
`22:17.09`	`Lothaer`	`but its off atm`
`22:17.40`	`Lothaer`	`polarina: and how would i fix it?`
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`22:18.00`	`[dRaCo]`	`tried reinstalling wau?`
`22:18.03`	`Lothaer`	`]i did`
`22:18.52`	`Polarina`	`Lothaer: I would first check if the memory is really damaged. There's a tool named "Memtest86+" that can do that. If it discovers a error you would have to get a replacement.`
`22:19.26`	`[dRaCo]`	`takes a while, though`
`22:19.39`	`[dRaCo]`	`most people recommend to have it running over night`
`22:20.02`	`Polarina`	`Lothaer: Have it run for at least 8 hours or so. If you get no errors during that period you know the memory is not damaged.`
`22:20.06`	`Diao`	`uh`
`22:20.10`	`Diao`	`what is an "Alliance General"?`
`22:20.21`	`Diao`	`http://clockwork-guild.net/alliancegeneral.jpg`
`22:21.51`	`CIA-9`	`03ackis * r60197 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-deDE.lua:`
`22:21.51`	`CIA-9`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`22:21.51`	`CIA-9`	`- deDE update thanks to Angellike`
`22:21.59`	`[dRaCo]`	`Diao: Mt. Hyjal`
`22:22.21`	`cncfanatics`	`huh ?`
`22:22.25`	`Diao`	`that's wsg though`
`22:22.31`	`cncfanatics`	`you can't have a namespace in a namespace in AceDB-3.0 ? why is that ?`
`22:23.09`	`nevcairiel`	`hm?`
`22:23.42`	`Diao`	`why are mage elementals being called alliance general D:`
`22:24.01`	`nevcairiel`	`you should be able to have namespaces inside namespaces`
`22:24.19`	`cncfanatics`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:24.20`	`cncfanatics`	`that fails`
`22:24.24`	`Wobin`	`Yey beta!`
`22:24.28`	`cncfanatics`	`RegisterNamespace is nil`
`22:24.35`	`cncfanatics`	`for the second call that is`
`22:24.37`	`cncfanatics`	`the first call works fine`
`22:25.19`	`nevcairiel`	`oh yeah, thats disabled`
`22:25.26`	`nevcairiel`	`why would you want namespaces in namespaces anyway?`
`22:25.29`	`nevcairiel`	`thats like crazy :P`
`22:25.32`	`cncfanatics`	`to make a hierarchy`
`22:25.37`	`nevcairiel`	`just register the namespace on the main table, doesnt matter`
`22:25.38`	`cncfanatics`	`every module in FB would get a namespace`
`22:25.48`	`cncfanatics`	`and modules could register namespaces in their own namespace`
`22:25.59`	`cncfanatics`	`as there are 3rd party modules, its a bad idea to do everything on the main table`
`22:26.06`	`cncfanatics`	`as there could be name conflicts :)`
`22:26.42`	`cncfanatics`	`why is it disabled anyway ?`
`22:26.48`	`cncfanatics`	`any technical dificulties with it ?`
`22:26.59`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`22:27.20`	`nevcairiel`	`there is a sv.namespaces table where all namespaces end up in, they dont have a internal hierarchy`
`22:27.29`	`nevcairiel`	`so, nameconflicts you still have`
`22:27.50`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmm, anoying`
`22:28.17`	`cncfanatics`	`I guess I'm going for a regular table hierarchy instead of namespaces then`
`22:28.29`	`nevcairiel`	`write your own func that does that and do function RegisterNamespace(name) FB:RegisterNamespace(modulename .. name) end`
`22:28.30`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`22:29.03`	`cncfanatics`	`with all Ace stuff I use I end up replacing 3/4th of the ufncs :p`
`22:29.25`	`cncfanatics`	`wondering if I should scrap AceDB too`
`22:29.41`	`nevcairiel`	`you need to use what you have, not expect anyone to write stuff that fits your crazy design ideas that are pointless ^^`
`22:29.49`	`cncfanatics`	`lol`
`22:29.56`	`cncfanatics`	`let me design how i want :p`
`22:30.05`	`cncfanatics`	`namespaces in a hierarchy ain't THAT crayz`
`22:30.05`	`[Ammo]`	`we saw how that worked out for FB1 :p`
`22:30.29`	`nevcairiel`	`just create a name hierarchy by doing (modulename .. name) and you're set :P`
`22:30.40`	`cncfanatics`	`I wasn't the coder of FB1,[Ammo]`
`22:31.39`	`cncfanatics`	`I've only been around in the FB scene since 2-3 months before TBC`
`22:31.45`	`cncfanatics`	`I only contributed snippets of code to FB1 :p`
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`22:33.11`	`chiper`	`hrm, I've somehow hidden the cartorgrapher world map background`
`22:33.14`	`chiper`	`how do I get it back?`
`22:34.40`	`SunTsu`	`chiper: The same happened to me, looks like a bug to me`
`22:34.53`	`sb_`	`reloadui`
`22:35.03`	`sb_`	`its happens when you click the X (close window)`
`22:35.10`	Funkeh`	`nn`
`22:36.01`	`sb_`	`ask ckknight :p`
`22:40.19`	`Chompers`	`kael to 99%!`
`22:40.23`	`Chompers`	`we're getting there ;)`
`22:40.37`	`Kaelten`	`don't kill me!`
`22:40.40`	`Kaelten`	`runs`
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`22:41.13`	`Polarina`	`Chompers: Don't worry, your group wipes when Kaelten reaches one hit point. :)`
`22:42.09`	`Chompers`	`spoilers`
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`22:46.46`	`Ozguli`	`hey`
`22:46.51`	`Ozguli`	`someone explain me how this...`
`22:46.59`	`Ozguli`	`mm... Grid missingbuffs works`
`22:47.22`	`Ozguli`	`how am I supposed to use it to actually see who's missing my buffs?`
`22:47.38`	`Diao`	`in the configuration`
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`22:54.16`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60198 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - uncomment out a few lines`
`22:54.41`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60199 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: config mockup finished`
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`22:56.17`	`Orionshock`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.27422#66368`
`22:56.19`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
`22:56.31`	`Ozguli`	`Diao that doesn't help really much`
`22:56.46`	`Diao`	`lol`
`22:57.17`	`Ozguli`	`explain better, I shall read it tomorrow`
`22:57.54`	`Wobin`	`Orionshock: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24324#comments`
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`23:02.58`	`charon`	`i wish there was a command like /suicide or something`
`23:03.17`	`charon`	`so i could commit ritual suicide whenever the warrior in charge of tank assignments decides something profoundly stupid`
`23:03.21`	`[SW]Dodge`	`go and ply a warlock than you can use /cas HEllfire ^^`
`23:03.27`	`charon`	`druid :(`
`23:03.28`	`thul`	`hahaha`
`23:03.33`	`thul`	`i thought i was in this room now`
`23:03.35`	`thul`	`hahahahahahah`
`23:03.36`	`thul`	`hahaha`
`23:03.49`	`thul`	`[23:34:00] < Flayer> about 30 minutes into TBC (I started a draenai) I meet a sex-hungry lonely night elf`
`23:03.51`	`thul`	`[23:36:00] < Flayer> and bam`
`23:03.52`	`thul`	`[23:41:00] < Flayer> she's naked now`
`23:03.54`	`thul`	`[23:36:00] < Flayer> she just asked if i wanted to sleep with her`
`23:03.57`	`thul`	`[23:37:00] < Flayer> oh boy`
`23:03.59`	`thul`	`[23:38:00] < Flayer> oh bloody fucking hell`
`23:04.02`	`thul`	`[23:42:00] < Flayer> what is wrong with this world`
`23:04.04`	`thul`	`[23:44:00] < Flayer> so many things...`
`23:04.08`	`thul`	`[23:45:00] < Flayer> i feel bad because i wonder if she (or possibly he, I guess) feels bad about being rejected`
`23:04.10`	`thul`	`[23:48:00] < Flayer> you see`
`23:04.12`	`thul`	`[23:48:00] < Flayer> she logged off after being rejected`
`23:04.15`	`thul`	`[23:49:00] < Flayer> now i feel bad`
`23:04.18`	`thul`	`[23:49:00] < Flayer> at least i made it an honor thing`
`23:04.20`	`thul`	`[23:49:00] < Flayer> god, i should just off myself right now`
`23:04.23`	`thul`	`I'm laughing so hard:p`
`23:04.37`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60200 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/TextManip.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - add [TruncEllipsis] modifier`
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`23:04.56`	`Stanzilla`	`lol wut`
`23:05.10`	`Pkekyo\|`	`moo`
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`23:05.52`	`Tuller`	`cow`
`23:06.10`	`Pkekyo\|`	`please, tauren...`
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`23:07.42`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60201 10FuBar/FuBar_Panel.lua: FuBar - make possible fix`
`23:07.42`	`Stanzilla`	`Tuller: eta for new combuctor version? :P`
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`23:08.06`	`Tuller`	`what broke? :P`
`23:08.23`	`Stanzilla`	`nothing I was just hoping that you added a few things or so^^`
`23:08.34`	`Tuller`	`like? scaling and opacity? :P`
`23:08.37`	`Stanzilla`	`also you could include the latest version of Ace3 now that it's beta`
`23:08.38`	`Stanzilla`	`yes :P`
`23:09.05`	`Tuller`	`combuctor does use the latest ace3 :P`
`23:09.18`	`Pkekyo\|`	`wha, ace3 is in beta?!`
`23:09.18`	`Tuller`	`or have they switched the branch thing again?`
`23:09.24`	`[Ammo]`	`we released beta`
`23:09.25`	`Stanzilla`	`yeah`
`23:09.36`	`[Ammo]`	`point your externals to trunk Ace3`
`23:09.42`	`[Ammo]`	`it'll be the 'stable' tag`
`23:10.00`	`[Ammo]`	`and will upgrade properly from now on`
`23:11.05`	`Stanzilla`	`I'm wondering if we need the docs and tests in trunk...`
`23:11.05`	`Orionshock`	`Wob the fk?`
`23:11.16`	`Amadeo`	`Anyone going to watch the Giants lose?`
`23:11.20`	`Kaelten`	`there's no solid reason to remove them`
`23:11.31`	`Kaelten`	`and we kinda anticipate people developing against trunk.`
`23:11.49`	`Stanzilla`	`kk :)`
`23:11.50`	`CIA-9`	`03rabbit * r60202 10FuBar_CustomMenuFu/ (CustomMenuFu.lua FuBar_CustomMenuFu.toc libs/): FuBar_CustomMenuFu: Fixed dependencies.`
`23:11.51`	`thul`	`I'm still laughing`
`23:11.51`	`thul`	`:-P`
`23:12.45`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60203 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: added a todo note`
`23:14.09`	`Pkekyo\|`	`anyone seen this movie Knocked Up? is it as bloody bizarre as it seems in the beginning?`
`23:14.10`	`Stanzilla`	`http://xkcd.com/327/ < LOL`
`23:14.34`	`Diao`	`it is Pkekyo\|`
`23:14.52`	`Pkekyo\|`	`lmao Stanzilla`
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`23:20.24`	`Tuller`	`Stanzilla: I switched the externals on combuctor :)`
`23:20.31`	`Stanzilla`	`thx!`
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`23:21.49`	`thul`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb_9uH-ELJE`
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`23:26.51`	`thul`	`http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs25/i/2008/034/0/7/Emo_by_cainadamsson.png`
`23:29.04`	`Pkekyo\|`	`emo?`
`23:29.08`	`thul`	`yeah? :-P`
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`23:30.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`err...interesting title :p`
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`23:35.25`	`CIA-9`	`03archarodim * r60204 10Decursive/ (11 files):`
`23:35.25`	`CIA-9`	`Decursive:`
`23:35.26`	`CIA-9`	`- It is now possible to change all the MUFs colors through the option menus.`
`23:35.26`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`23:39.28`	`Kemayo`	`tinderbox: You were looking for me?`
`23:39.37`	`Aeyan`	`Oh noes`
`23:39.40`	`Aeyan`	`My dogtags exploded`
`23:39.56`	`Kirkburn`	`Aeyan, fully updated?`
`23:40.33`	`Aeyan`	`Yeah, just updated before I logged in a minute ago`
`23:41.59`	`Kirkburn`	`There was an issue earlier, which should have been fixed`
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`23:42.43`	`Kirkburn`	`gonna see if I confirm`
`23:42.54`	`Aeyan`	`Appears to be a small issue updating my custom tags for the new syntax stuff`
`23:43.23`	`Aeyan`	`Erased and entered them again and they seem to be fine`
`23:43.28`	`Kirkburn`	`ah, well, custom stuff scares me, so I'm not getting involved :P`
`23:43.41`	`Aeyan`	`Hehe`
`23:43.48`	`Aeyan`	`I fixed it`
`23:43.50`	`Aeyan`	`No worries`
`23:43.58`	`Kirkburn`	`awesome`
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`23:52.33`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60205 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - fix issue where [Outline] couldn't be used on the first line`
`23:52.46`	`Civrock`	`Yay.`
`23:55.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`"Marriage is just like that fucking show Everybody Loves Raymond. Except it's not fucking funny" :>`
`23:56.42`	`kenlyric`	`then it's just like Everybody Loves Raymond`
`23:57.13`	`Megalon`	`hehe`
`23:57.31`	`JoshBorke`	`what's the quick disconnect command?`
`23:57.55`	`Hobby`	`./logout ?`
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`23:58.08`	`JoshBorke`	`no, no, yo,u can send a nil but i forget the command`
`23:59.20`	`Hobby`	`there's a Logout() function as well iirc`
`23:59.32`	`Hobby`	`if not that i'm just confused as to what you're referring to`

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