IRC log for #wowace on 20080204

`00:01.38`	`Chompers`	`oh raymond, what will you do next!`
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`00:06.01`	`Pkekyo\|`	`JoshBorkewhat's the quick disconnect command? <--- /console quit?`
`00:06.25`	`Recluse`	`./camp`
`00:06.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`isn't /camp = /logout ?`
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`00:07.20`	`Recluse`	`i think, don't remember`
`00:07.25`	`Amadeo`	`Yes`
`00:08.06`	`JoshBorke`	`you all fail`
`00:08.15`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`00:08.27`	`Pkekyo\|`	`YOUR FACE FAILS`
`00:10.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`burned blood looks weird :/`
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`00:11.55`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60206 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - add Quel'thalas`
`00:13.18`	`CIA-9`	`03morgalm * r60207 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc RaidFunctions.lua):`
`00:13.18`	`CIA-9`	`MorgDKP:`
`00:13.18`	`CIA-9`	`- Fix nil error when adding aliases`
`00:14.36`	`[SW]Dodge`	`is there a way to force an update of the gametooltip?`
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`00:24.26`	`Herio`	`anyone knows a mod to track the number of instances you've opened in the past hour, and when they will expire?`
`00:24.33`	`JoshBorke`	`...`
`00:24.53`	`Hobby`	`iirc TradeCDFu does`
`00:25.00`	`Hobby`	`Though I was never sure why it did`
`00:25.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`there was on recently posted on curse i think`
`00:25.12`	`Shadowed`	`Because`
`00:25.15`	`Shadowed`	`people like to add stupid features`
`00:25.19`	`Shadowed`	`into mods that don't need it`
`00:25.23`	`Herio`	`borg mods ftl`
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`00:26.05`	`Recluse`	`lol borg mods`
`00:26.54`	`[SW]Dodge`	`is there a way to force an update of the gametooltip?`
`00:26.57`	`Amadeo`	`Gold farmers ruined it for us`
`00:27.04`	`Amadeo`	`We used to be able to farm instances, but no more!`
`00:27.25`	`Shadowed`	`No they didn't`
`00:27.26`	`Recluse`	`i think it hinges on a) the author wants some feature for themselves but doesn't want to write another addon and b) too many feature requests by users and the author being unwise as to which should be implemented`
`00:27.47`	`Shadowed`	`They did it so we can't create 5000 temporary instances and absolutely kill the servers`
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`00:28.05`	`Shadowed`	`it was a long time before the DM exploits`
`00:28.29`	`Recluse`	`Shadowed: but i liked it back when the instance reset if everyone in the party left it`
`00:28.31`	`Amadeo`	`I remember farmers teleport hacking most instances`
`00:28.46`	`Shadowed`	`It wasn't really that popular or game breaking until DM`
`00:28.47`	`durcyn`	`scholomance was the big one`
`00:28.54`	`Amadeo`	`you'd see about 30 level 1's at Strath`
`00:28.54`	`Shadowed`	`scholomance got fixed pretty quickly`
`00:29.10`	`durcyn`	`if by quickly you mean half a year`
`00:29.13`	`Amadeo`	`lol`
`00:29.39`	`Recluse`	`i remember pre-bc getting /1 gold spam from level 1's while raiding in aq`
`00:29.40`	`Amadeo`	`I want instances to go away, back to the old days of fighting over everything :)`
`00:31.44`	`Tuller`	`bah`
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`00:32.48`	`thul`	`i like my new image`
`00:33.23`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> print(var)`
`00:33.24`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: nil`
`00:33.37`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> print(tostring(var))`
`00:33.37`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: nil`
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`00:48.05`	`Kivin`	`Oh my lord, secure action buttons are horrible to work with`
`00:48.29`	`nevcairiel`	`its not bad if you get to know them`
`00:48.52`	`Kivin`	`well, the lack of significant documentation makes it next to impossible to get to know them <well>`
`00:49.12`	`nevcairiel`	`code is all docs you need`
`00:49.17`	`Kivin`	`not true`
`00:49.42`	`nevcairiel`	`s/you need/i needed/`
`00:49.49`	`Kivin`	`the most useful information i've got so far has come from Alestene and Cogwheel, and they got it straight from Iriel because it ISN'T in the code files.`
`00:51.06`	`nevcairiel`	`the secure buttons are implemented in lua, all you need is in there`
`00:52.26`	`Kivin`	`there's a perfectly good reason why any bar mod that tries to implement non-actionID-adherent buttons is a total mess`
`00:52.44`	`Kivin`	`I am fairly certain Iriel is the only person that understands that code`
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`00:58.16`	`Silowyi`	`what is up with the trash on Kaz'rogal?`
`00:58.50`	`Silowyi`	`we had a bug apparently`
`00:59.19`	`nevcairiel`	`what bug?`
`01:01.04`	`Silowyi`	`3 waves spawn and we saw 4 ghouls and about 8 gargoyls, killed them`
`01:01.18`	`Silowyi`	`then Thrall says "Withdrawl, we have failed." or some crap`
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`01:01.30`	`Silowyi`	`no other mobs anywhere in the camp`
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`01:02.11`	`nevcairiel`	`never had that`
`01:02.14`	`nevcairiel`	`did it reset or what?`
`01:02.21`	`Silowyi`	`Thrall is still missing`
`01:02.24`	`Silowyi`	`about 15 minutes`
`01:02.31`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`01:02.32`	`sb_`	`mhhh`
`01:02.35`	`Recluse`	`eesh`
`01:02.37`	`sb_`	`stuck with some add and got killed?`
`01:03.30`	`Silowyi`	`nope, I was standing next to him`
`01:03.36`	`Silowyi`	`he never got into combat`
`01:03.37`	`sb_`	`you killed him!!`
`01:03.51`	`Recluse`	`so does the bliz v. p4h case set a precedent to get rid of the others as well?`
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`01:05.50`	`nevcairiel`	`"The injunction is part of a settlement, so it does not carry the precedential weight that a decision on the merits would carry."`
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`01:08.25`	`Estil`	`when you get bored, you do this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311206989&sid=1`
`01:08.27`	`Recluse`	`meh. i don't mind that they are there, just wish they'd stay outta me chats. imo anyone who wants to buy gold/pl services would google it, not sit in IF until a spammer came adverting`
`01:11.01`	`kenlyric`	`I think you underestimate the number of wow players who don't know the web exists.`
`01:11.12`	`kenlyric`	`there are many of them.`
`01:12.48`	`thul`	`gnite`
`01:13.19`	`kenlyric`	`I actually raided with a guy who had internet to only play WoW`
`01:13.32`	`kenlyric`	`he never surfed the web, didn't have an email account.`
`01:13.38`	`Recluse`	`Estil: funny ^.^`
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`01:13.45`	`kenlyric`	`i'm not really sure how he got a wow account.`
`01:13.48`	`Estil`	`:D`
`01:15.06`	`Recluse`	`kenlyric: someone signed him up and gave him l/p for it?`
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`01:15.35`	`Silowyi`	`he might be a mac user`
`01:16.13`	`kenlyric`	`that's possible`
`01:17.38`	`Recluse`	`Estil: but not much other than a gnome could mount a travel form winces at the thought of tauren riders`
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`01:19.45`	`Estil`	`lol`
`01:20.11`	`Estil`	`well, considering that all Horde druids are Tauren, I'm pretty sure they are ripped enough to carry anyone even in their travel form`
`01:20.19`	`Estil`	`I cannot say the same for Nelf trying to carry a Draenei males`
`01:20.32`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`01:20.38`	`kenlyric`	`cats R strong`
`01:20.58`	`kenlyric`	`and remember, MAGIC form`
`01:21.01`	`Estil`	`lmfao @ serious replies`
`01:22.04`	`kenlyric`	`all internet discussions are serious business`
`01:22.23`	`Estil`	`indeed`
`01:27.01`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60208 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: comments`
`01:28.19`	`Stanzilla`	`Kaelten: fish restart please :P`
`01:28.28`	`Kaelten`	`again?`
`01:28.33`	`Stanzilla`	`yup`
`01:28.56`	`Silowyi`	`fish?`
`01:29.03`	`Stanzilla`	`fish.wowace.com`
`01:29.22`	`Kaelten`	`done`
`01:29.29`	`Stanzilla`	`thanks`
`01:29.41`	`Silowyi`	`huh`
`01:29.50`	`Silowyi`	`what is the perpuse of Fisheye?`
`01:30.09`	`Stanzilla`	`source code browsing etc`
`01:30.16`	`Silowyi`	`nods`
`01:30.31`	`Silowyi`	`so it's just an svn browser`
`01:31.02`	`Recluse`	`Silowyi: essentially`
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`01:36.18`	`Recluse`	`parsing id3 tags from 100k mp3s is worse than watching paint drying >.>`
`01:36.57`	`L3X0R`	`anyone know how is nogudnik ?`
`01:38.24`	`L3X0R`	`or Robert Clark ?`
`01:39.28`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60209 10Routes/: Routes: Copy branch to trunk`
`01:40.41`	`Recluse`	`srry, don't know them myself`
`01:41.29`	`Recluse`	`ooo routes on trunk? nice`
`01:41.30`	`Wobin`	`something happened to nogudnik? =)`
`01:41.49`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60210 10IPopBar/: IPopBar: Copy branch to trunk`
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`01:42.19`	`Silowyi`	`haha`
`01:42.30`	`Silowyi`	`got disconnected and ported to Shattrath while tanking in MT`
`01:43.48`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60211 10GatherMate_Sharing/: GatherMate_Sharing: Copy branch to trunk`
`01:44.52`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60212 10GatherHud/: GatherHud: Copy branch to trunk`
`01:45.42`	`kenlyric`	`zomg!`
`01:45.49`	`kenlyric`	`BRANCH TO TRUNK!`
`01:45.58`	`Kaelten`	`hehe`
`01:46.01`	`L3X0R`	`ok then ... can anyone tell to the author of Skillet to add compatibility support with MobMap items or viceversa ... /ty`
`01:46.01`	`Recluse`	`lol i know right?`
`01:46.03`	`Kaelten`	`Ace3 is in trunk now`
`01:46.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`its locked so only certain people can commit to it just like ace2 right?`
`01:46.39`	`Kaelten`	`corrrect`
`01:46.48`	`Kaelten`	`we're also treating it as more or less a stable tag`
`01:46.58`	`Stanzilla`	`L3X0R: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/SKL`
`01:47.10`	`Kaelten`	`anything going into it is going to be tested out first`
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`01:47.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`so your just saying fuck revision history on trunk and just going to copy stuff from branches over?`
`01:48.01`	`kenlyric`	`praise the lord.`
`01:48.05`	`Estil`	`I'm very glad that I leveled a Druid`
`01:48.08`	`Estil`	`http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/Tiermeister/NerfCyclone.jpg <-- read the combat log`
`01:48.40`	`Kaelten`	`Arrowmaster: kinda, I'll be svn mergeing in all changes`
`01:49.04`	`Recluse`	`LOL!`
`01:49.16`	`Recluse`	`that's hilarious`
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`01:49.23`	`Kaelten`	`?`
`01:49.42`	`JoshBorke`	`lol, that's awesome`
`01:49.51`	`Recluse`	`the cyclone immunity from Estil`
`01:50.08`	`Estil`	`I am so using that in bg's`
`01:50.10`	`Estil`	`esp vs premades`
`01:50.18`	`Estil`	`50% till lv 70 on my druid :D`
`01:50.28`	`Estil`	`save NS + Cyclone for that very end`
`01:50.51`	`Xinhuan`	`technically, all the copied addons from branches to trunk, are using the trunk version of Ace3`
`01:51.01`	`Recluse`	`i got 1.5 levels until 70 on my second druid T_T`
`01:51.03`	`Xinhuan`	`only my local copy of Ace3 is pointing to the RC1 folder`
`01:51.33`	`Stanzilla`	`same here`
`01:52.07`	`Xinhuan`	`Kaelten, keep in mind that the`
`01:52.09`	`Estil`	`I'd have said "you're out of your mind" if this was all before the Druid buffs that made leveling easier`
`01:52.18`	`Xinhuan`	`Ace3 trunk copy is still using a "static" hardcoded revision number`
`01:52.30`	`Xinhuan`	`and so no library updates will occur`
`01:52.37`	`Xinhuan`	`or lib upgrading for the matter`
`01:52.40`	`Kaelten`	`no they will`
`01:52.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`ace3 is always going to use a static hardcoded revision number`
`01:52.55`	`Kaelten`	`we're going to be upping in manually instead of relying on svn revisions`
`01:53.08`	`Xinhuan`	`can you up it so it overrides all the prev beta versions?`
`01:53.18`	`Xinhuan`	`there were a few addons that were on Wowi and stuff that used ace3 libs`
`01:53.33`	`Xinhuan`	`so up the trunk minor version of all libs by at least 1?`
`01:53.47`	`Kaelten`	`we'll look at that`
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`01:55.17`	`JoshBorke`	`nev already did that`
`01:55.34`	`Kaelten`	`did he?`
`01:55.39`	`JoshBorke`	`yes`
`01:55.40`	`Kaelten`	`I wanted to double check on it`
`01:55.42`	`Kaelten`	`kk,`
`01:55.53`	`Kaelten`	`we should increment the ones in the RC1 directory though`
`01:56.00`	`JoshBorke`	`agreed`
`01:56.18`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60213 10GatherMate/GatherMate.toc:`
`01:56.18`	`CIA-9`	`GatherMate:`
`01:56.18`	`CIA-9`	`- Add ## X-Embeds: Ace3`
`01:56.18`	`CIA-9`	`- Remove LibBabble-Zone-3.0 from OptionalDeps`
`01:56.22`	`Xinhuan`	`ah`
`01:56.25`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't know if he did`
`01:56.33`	`Kaelten`	`I thought he had but I wasn't sure`
`01:57.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`is every commit to the rc1 dir going to up the revision number? or are you just going to keep it +1 from trunk?`
`01:58.11`	`Kaelten`	`+1 from trunk`
`01:58.49`	`JoshBorke`	`+1 from trunk`
`01:59.36`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60214 10GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.toc: GatherMate_Sharing: Add ## X-Embeds: Ace3 because it uses AceComm`
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`02:00.26`	`alcaras`	`anyone know how to get a casting bar for target of target in quartz?`
`02:01.10`	`JoshBorke`	`alcaras: you can't`
`02:01.15`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't think quartz supports that feature`
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`02:01.35`	`alcaras`	`:-/`
`02:01.39`	`alcaras`	`ok, ty`
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`02:01.56`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60215 10GatherMate_Sharing/: GatherMate_Sharing: Fix tsvn:logtemplate from GatharMate_Sharing: to GatherMate_Sharing:`
`02:03.37`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60216 10Routes/Routes.toc: Routes: Remove LibBabble-Zone-3.0 from OptionalDeps because we don't use it.`
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`02:05.33`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60217 10GatherMate_Data/: GatherMate_Data: Add tsvn:logtemplate property`
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`02:09.27`	`Xinhuan`	`Employer to applicant: "In this job we need someone who is responsible."`
`02:09.32`	`Xinhuan`	`Applicant: "I'm the one you want. On my last job, every time anything went wrong, they said I was responsible."`
`02:11.34`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60218 10/branches/IPopBar/: IPopBar: Delete development branch`
`02:12.22`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60219 10/branches/Cartographer_Routes/: Cartographer_Routes: Delete development branch`
`02:14.02`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Talents * r60220 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: Delete Talents development branch`
`02:14.26`	`durcyn`	`Xinhuan: why not just move it if you're going to delete the branch afterwards`
`02:14.41`	`Xinhuan`	`those are old branches, like a few months old`
`02:15.52`	`kenlyric`	`this is like the greatest week ever. best primary season in decades, find out the sex of my baby, mardi gras, and now commits to trunk.`
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`02:17.58`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60221 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: updated comments`
`02:25.33`	`kebinusan`	`anyone familiar with pulling crap from the armory? Im semi interested in pulling the gmotd out to stuff up on our website`
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`02:30.50`	`[SW]Dodge`	`is there a way to force an update of the gametooltip? :)`
`02:33.05`	`Xinhuan`	`nope`
`02:33.13`	`Xinhuan`	`you have to regenerate it completely`
`02:34.10`	`[SW]Dodge`	`currently i have this http://rafb.net/p/5oACLh11.html :)`
`02:36.06`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah to update it, you have to rerun the whole function`
`02:36.50`	`Xinhuan`	`i.e you need an OnUpdate`
`02:36.59`	`Xinhuan`	`or you can make use of GameTooltip's internal OnUpdate`
`02:37.23`	`Xinhuan`	`you assign a function that blizzard's gametooltip will call every 0.2 seconds`
`02:38.13`	`[SW]Dodge`	`uhm... how? /shy`
`02:38.28`	`[SW]Dodge`	`i started today with coding :)`
`02:38.50`	`Xinhuan`	`its GameTooltip.UpdateTooltip`
`02:39.06`	`Xinhuan`	`GameTooltip.UpdateTooltip = somefunction you want GTT to call every 0.2 secs`
`02:39.25`	`Xinhuan`	`then you nil value OnLeave`
`02:39.30`	`Xinhuan`	`then you nil this value OnLeave`
`02:39.57`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ah nice thanks, i'll try it :)`
`02:42.44`	`Kirkburn`	`Y'know I just noticed ... does Ace have an anti-diamonds bias?`
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`02:42.58`	`Xinhuan`	`what the heck does that mean Kirkburn`
`02:43.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Your lack of Ace of Diamonds disturbs me`
`02:43.25`	`Kirkburn`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page`
`02:43.33`	`Xinhuan`	`its the weakest link :D`
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`02:43.54`	`Kirkburn`	`You're so suitist`
`02:44.27`	`Kirkburn`	`I'll report you to the Anti-Suitism Sect`
`02:44.58`	`Kirkburn`	`They'll pay you a visit`
`02:45.21`	`Kirkburn`	`Do you want that Xinhuan? Do you want to be visited by ASS?`
`02:45.35`	`Xinhuan`	`i'll give it a pass`
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`02:47.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Well, I hope you rectal- I mean rectify the situation soon`
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`03:12.34`	`tinderbox`	`i think ckknight needs a better connection`
`03:13.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`he always has`
`03:14.01`	`Jagobah`	`rawrawrawr`
`03:14.03`	`Gngsk`	`that's what he gets for living in hawaii`
`03:14.07`	`Jagobah`	`hawaii!`
`03:14.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`would always dc when he was in hawaii, and now hes in cali and still always dcs`
`03:14.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`same cat5 cable`
`03:14.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`;D`
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`03:22.53`	`CIA-9`	`Automaton:`
`03:22.53`	`CIA-9`	`- Gossip: added Tears of Elune pickup in Hyjal`
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`03:29.38`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60223 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix nil bug`
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`03:43.18`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60224 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Talent.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - change better_UnitLevel to check that if you're level 70 and you can't see a mob's level, i.e. ??, then it should assume that it's level 73.`
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`03:49.20`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60225 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Talent.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - change better_UnitLevel to check if something is a boss, and if it is, calculate it as 3 levels higher than yourself.`
`03:50.50`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60226 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - treat \| as a proper operator`
`03:56.37`	`tinderbox`	`is there any way to do multiline comments in lua?`
`03:56.57`	`RaydenUni`	`sounds like my guild won't be doing kara tonight`
`03:56.58`	`RaydenUni`	`again`
`03:57.19`	`robotusch`	`my guild is doing ZA tonight, but I'm off to Germany ;(`
`03:58.39`	`RaydenUni`	`i haven't done kara with my guild in over a month`
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`03:58.55`	`RaydenUni`	`last week i didn't go, but they didn't have enough`
`03:59.05`	`RaydenUni`	`week before we didn't have enough so i ran with someone else`
`03:59.11`	`RaydenUni`	`week before not enough`
`03:59.18`	`RaydenUni`	`week before i stepped out so someone else could go`
`04:00.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`tinderbox: --[[ comments comments comments \n blah blah ]]`
`04:00.32`	`robotusch`	`I'm just hoping for our kara run this week to actually drop some stuff we can use`
`04:01.16`	`robotusch`	`we had so much hunter/shaman/healing cloth gear drop & no one could be bothered with taking it`
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`04:30.35`	`potemkin`	`anyone know where unitreactioncolor is stored`
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`04:40.39`	`Xinhuan`	`quiet channel`
`04:41.24`	`Xinhuan`	`trouts don't make noises, Fisker-`
`04:42.28`	`Fisker-`	`just like your mother`
`04:42.36`	`Fisker-`	`zing etc.`
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`04:44.11`	`khangg`	`w00t another level 70 in the books`
`04:45.49`	`Kivin`	`RegisterStateDriver(template, "stance", "[stance:1] 1; [stance:2] 2; [modifier:shift] 7; 0") <- doesn't appear to work for the modifier. Is there a way that I can adjust that statement to support both stance and modifier?`
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`04:49.41`	`tinderbox`	`is table_foo[bar] the same thing as table_foo["bar"] and if not, if i have string fred = "bar" then how can i access table_foo[bar]`
`04:50.25`	`Kivin`	`table_foo[bar] is the same as table_foo[nil] if bar doesn't have a value`
`04:50.30`	`Orionshock`	`foo[bar] is if bar is a variable`
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`04:50.44`	`tinderbox`	`ok.. i misspoke`
`04:50.53`	`tinderbox`	`table_foo = { bar = "fred" }`
`04:50.55`	`tinderbox`	`legal?`
`04:50.59`	`Kivin`	`yes`
`04:51.00`	`Orionshock`	`local bar ="tbl_key"; foo[bar]`
`04:51.12`	`Kivin`	`foo['bar'] or foo.bar`
`04:51.20`	`tinderbox`	`both work?`
`04:51.33`	`Kivin`	`lua> t = { bar = "fred" }; print(t.bar) print(t['bar']) print(t["bar"])`
`04:51.34`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: fred, fred, fred`
`04:51.34`	`Orionshock`	`tinderbox: in most cases`
`04:51.53`	`Kivin`	`lua> t = { bar = "fred" }; print(t.bar) print(t['bar']) print(t["bar"]) print( t[bar] )`
`04:51.53`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: fred, fred, fred, nil`
`04:52.04`	`Kivin`	`that answer your question?`
`04:52.11`	`Kivin`	`lua> t = { bar = "fred" }; bar = "bar"; print(t.bar) print(t['bar']) print(t["bar"]) print( t[bar] )`
`04:52.12`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: fred, fred, fred, fred`
`04:52.20`	`Orionshock`	`lua> t={bar stool = "fred"} print(t.bar stool)`
`04:52.20`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "t={bar stool = "fred"} print(t.bar stool)"]:1: '}' expected near 'stool'`
`04:52.31`	`Kivin`	`o_O`
`04:52.48`	`tinderbox`	`lua> t = { fred = "barney" }; bar = "fred"; print t[bar]`
`04:52.48`	`lua_bot`	`tinderbox: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "t = { fred = "barney" }; bar = "fred"; print t[bar]"]:1: '=' expected near 't'`
`04:53.20`	`Orionshock`	`so key values that have specail stuff in em need to be enclosed`
`04:53.43`	`CIA-9`	`03next96 * r60227 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua:`
`04:53.43`	`CIA-9`	`GatherMate:`
`04:53.44`	`CIA-9`	`- Update locale koKR`
`04:54.05`	`Orionshock`	`lua> t={fred="barney"} bar = "fred"; print(t[bar])`
`04:54.06`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: barney`
`04:55.00`	`darchon-`	~seen Funkeh`
`04:55.08`	`purl`	funkeh` <n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 19m 58s ago, saying: 'nn'.
`04:56.35`	`Kivin`	`good god. i just can't seem to figure out how to get state driver buttons to work with modifiers and stances at the same time`
`04:56.46`	`tinderbox`	`is declaring all of your variables as locals within a function necessary or just for readability?`
`04:56.48`	`Xinhuan`	`you should ask Cncfanatics when he comes on`
`04:57.03`	`Xinhuan`	`tinderbox, if you don't declare them as locals, they are treated as globals`
`04:57.16`	`Xinhuan`	`all variables are globals in lua, unless defined as locals`
`04:57.33`	`Kivin`	`Yeah, cnc would probably know`
`04:57.36`	`tinderbox`	`ew`
`04:57.40`	`tinderbox`	`but ok`
`04:57.41`	`Xinhuan`	`so if multiple addons use the same global, you'll get in a mess`
`04:57.48`	`Kivin`	`Likewise, if I cannibalize his code, I could probably find out =/`
`04:57.51`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:58.17`	`tinderbox`	`seems like a lot of functions use for i = ... without declaring i as a local`
`04:58.21`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:58.31`	`Orionshock`	`tinderbox: i is local`
`04:58.34`	`Xinhuan`	`that is because the "for" loop already implicitly defines them as locals`
`04:58.36`	`Orionshock`	`to that for loop`
`04:58.42`	`Xinhuan`	`it is local to that loop only`
`04:58.43`	`tinderbox`	`gotcha`
`04:58.44`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:59.09`	`Kivin`	`lua> for i = 1, 2 do i = 55; print(i) end`
`04:59.09`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: 55, 55`
`04:59.17`	`tinderbox`	`but if i assign any variables inside the for loop, those are also globals?`
`04:59.22`	`Kivin`	`yes`
`04:59.25`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`04:59.30`	`Kivin`	`lua> for i = 1, 2 do i = 55; print(i) end; print(_G['i'])`
`04:59.31`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: 55, 55, nil`
`04:59.36`	`Kivin`	`hmm?`
`04:59.50`	`Xinhuan`	`as mentioned, all variables take on the scope of the large available scope -- globals or upvalues`
`05:00.02`	`Xinhuan`	`loop counters are protected, if you are wondering`
`05:00.54`	`Kivin`	`was just surprised that it used the local variable then restored it on the next iteration of for`
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`05:01.17`	`Xinhuan`	`yes, the for loop actually maintains its own state variables`
`05:01.21`	`Xinhuan`	`so you can't mess with the loop`
`05:01.41`	`kebinusan`	`aside from grid and clique can anyone think of some must have or very useful mods for healers`
`05:01.56`	`Xinhuan`	`damage meters!`
`05:01.58`	`Xinhuan`	`or healing meters`
`05:02.00`	`Xinhuan`	`:P`
`05:02.10`	`Kivin`	`sigh I've completely mangled my code trying various creative things to get modifiers working`
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`05:04.15`	`Kivin`	`time to download flexbars, i guess`
`05:04.22`	`Xinhuan`	`hi sb`
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`05:09.39`	`syeren`	`ckknight / ckknight_, the optimizations you've been making lately appear to be having an effect :p`
`05:10.17`	`Fisker-`	`just like your mother lololol and so forth`
`05:10.42`	`robotusch`	`OH U`
`05:10.48`	`syeren`	`no r u`
`05:10.58`	`Fisker-`	`NO U`
`05:11.03`	`Xinhuan`	`its me`
`05:11.09`	`Xinhuan`	`settle down :)`
`05:11.21`	`syeren`	`no r u`
`05:11.47`	`Diao`	`hmm`
`05:11.50`	`Diao`	`does anyone know`
`05:11.54`	`Diao`	`if parry works with offhand`
`05:12.05`	`Fisker-`	`this is pissing me off`
`05:12.13`	`Fisker-`	`now i'm stuck in heroic each time i login again`
`05:12.36`	`Diao`	`ie, if you dual wield, is your parry chance 1-(1-parrychance)^2`
`05:12.47`	`robotusch`	`:D`
`05:12.52`	`robotusch`	`poor u, then`
`05:12.55`	`Diao`	`or is it just parry chance`
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`05:16.46`	`Fisker-`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405197889&sid=1#4 <-lol :D`
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`05:18.02`	`Recluse`	`Estil: ping`
`05:18.45`	`robotusch`	`Written Troll Factor!`
`05:19.19`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60228 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:`
`05:19.19`	`CIA-9`	`LibBabble-Zone-3.0:`
`05:19.19`	`CIA-9`	`- koKR Update`
`05:19.22`	`Orionshock`	`anyone know where to get the recipie for Blackened Trout?`
`05:19.31`	`robotusch`	`but wahey, mu huntar now has a pair of epic gloves`
`05:19.44`	`robotusch`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27694`
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`05:20.15`	`robotusch`	`Zabra'jin / Orebor Harborage for the lazy ones ;P`
`05:22.49`	`robotusch`	`yay, another "Let's have a pre-TBC realm"-topic`
`05:28.26`	`CIA-9`	`03scorpion * r60229 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-zhTW.lua:`
`05:28.26`	`CIA-9`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`05:28.26`	`CIA-9`	`- zhTW update`
`05:30.54`	`Kivin`	`oh my word, two hours of mucking about in the secure templates and i forgot to put [nomodifier] in my stance states.`
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`05:35.17`	`Fisker-`	`oh nos`
`05:35.21`	`Fisker-`	`i has to do teh dirty work`
`05:35.46`	`robotusch`	`no details plx`
`05:36.00`	`Fisker-`	`i need oil on my staff`
`05:36.16`	`Fisker-`	`i want you to oil my staff robotusch`
`05:36.43`	`robotusch`	`no you don't`
`05:36.55`	`robotusch`	`.. because in 5 hours, I R TEH GERMAN!`
`05:37.12`	`Fisker-`	`no`
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`05:41.20`	`Fisker-`	`ahaha`
`05:41.24`	`Fisker-`	`obvious trolling wins`
`05:41.45`	`robotusch`	`:?`
`05:42.03`	`Fisker-`	`someone kept trading me deviate savory delight`
`05:42.11`	`Fisker-`	`http://i30.tinypic.com/2ykdkqu.jpg`
`05:42.37`	`robotusch`	`someone once traded me crystal pulse shield and whispered "40g ok m8?"`
`05:42.48`	`robotusch`	`.. unfortunately I already had 3 in the bank at the time :/`
`05:43.57`	`Kivin`	`one more shot, anyone here familiar with secure state headers/drivers`
`05:44.33`	`tinderbox`	`is there any debugger for acedb so i can see what a current db contains?`
`05:47.24`	`Fisker-`	`robotusch`
`05:47.27`	`Fisker-`	`du har fået post`
`05:47.40`	`robotusch`	`h`
`05:47.41`	`robotusch`	`n�h`
`05:47.44`	`Fisker-`	`jo`
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`05:48.29`	`robotusch`	`@ where? :\|`
`05:49.15`	`Fisker-`	`i dine lunger`
`05:49.18`	`robotusch`	`:(`
`05:49.20`	`Fisker-`	`har sendt miltbrand looooool`
`05:53.14`	`Orionshock`	`wtb Wowhead in game w/ profession integration ...`
`05:53.34`	`Recluse`	`profession integration?`
`05:54.03`	`Orionshock`	`ya, like for going around and getting all the various outland recpies`
`05:54.59`	`Recluse`	`Orionshock: well. mobmap.de for showing recipe mats for anything. reciperadar for showing where to buy recipes. tradejunkie for showing what you don't have and where they drop`
`05:55.20`	`Orionshock`	`qq`
`05:55.45`	`Orionshock`	`don't want more mods... :P just one :D`
`05:55.50`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`05:56.21`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> ("~"):byte`
`05:56.21`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "("~"):byte"]:1: function arguments expected near '<eof>'`
`05:56.26`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> ("~"):byte()`
`05:56.26`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 126,`
`05:56.34`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> format("%x", ("~"):byte())`
`05:56.35`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 7e,`
`05:56.39`	`Xinhuan`	`ok 7e`
`05:57.38`	`Orionshock`	`wtb "Glow Cap" in GatherMate`
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`06:00.13`	`Xinhuan`	`lol that useless thing`
`06:00.20`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan * r60230 10IPopBar/readme.txt: IPopBar: Add a readme file that contains general information and patch notes.`
`06:00.22`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`06:00.32`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: is not, used for sporogar rep stuff :P`
`06:00.33`	`Xinhuan`	`does Track Herbs even show glowcaps?`
`06:00.49`	`Xinhuan`	`you need Cartographer_Trasure for those nonsense`
`06:00.49`	`Kivin`	`it does`
`06:00.50`	`Xinhuan`	`or Gatherer`
`06:00.52`	`Xinhuan`	`hehe`
`06:01.02`	`Recluse`	`yes, herb track does`
`06:01.07`	`Kivin`	`i'm not sure why you'd want a tracking mob for them, though`
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`06:01.14`	`Xinhuan`	`the problem is that Glowcaps uses the casting bar "Opening"`
`06:01.22`	`Kivin`	`the western half ot the map is dotted with them and they have a phenomenally fast spawn rate.`
`06:01.23`	`Recluse`	`yeah`
`06:01.24`	`Xinhuan`	`rather than "Herb Gathering" spell`
`06:03.00`	`Kivin`	`~seen Cncfanatics`
`06:03.35`	`purl`	`cncfanatics <n=evolve@d54C6F09D.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 31m 50s ago, saying: 'I only contributed snippets of code to FB1 :p'.`
`06:03.36`	`Kivin`	`~last Cncfanatics`
`06:03.38`	`Recluse`	`ok EQL is still busted and bEQL's tracker frame is acting fishy. what do you suggest for a double-wide quest log addon with movable/resizable/minimizable tracker?`
`06:03.48`	`Kivin`	`D:`
`06:04.00`	`Kivin`	`I can't believe something so simple must be so hard.`
`06:04.51`	`Kivin`	`WoW 2.0 must've been addon holocaust due to the secure template implementation`
`06:05.08`	`Orionshock`	`"The Great Nerf of 1.12"`
`06:05.37`	`Orionshock`	`1.12 is when secure templates came in iirc`
`06:05.46`	`Kivin`	`ehh whatever`
`06:06.38`	`Orionshock`	`back when healbot really was a bot, and when decursive made life easy`
`06:06.52`	`Kivin`	`If Xinhuan doesn't know it, small chance I'll ever figure it out :P I hope cnc can enlighten me on what I'm doing wrong`
`06:09.43`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm not too good with statheeaders either`
`06:09.56`	`Xinhuan`	`especially ifthey involve stances and bar paging`
`06:10.10`	`Kivin`	`wont be doing bar paging, but i've come to understand stances pretty well`
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`06:10.30`	`Xinhuan`	`you can also try asking cogwheel`
`06:10.34`	`Xinhuan`	`he's good at that kind of stuff`
`06:10.41`	`Kivin`	`i just put a post on the forums, hoping he'll bite`
`06:10.51`	`Kivin`	`he and alestene are the ones that got me rollin a few months ago`
`06:11.25`	`Kivin`	`is there an irc channel he hangs around on?`
`06:11.28`	`Kivin`	`~seen cogwheel`
`06:11.30`	`purl`	`cogwheel <n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 2h 2m 6s ago, saying: 'buh bye'.`
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`06:11.55`	`Fisker-`	`why did cockwheel go? :(`
`06:12.24`	`Xinhuan`	`he decided to flee from Fisker-`
`06:12.29`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: i prolly allready asked, but tell me you guys didn't seal off GatherMate to where someone else can write a bloat module for Treasure n' such :D`
`06:13.00`	`Xinhuan`	`we sealed it off. Gathermate is not intended to be a "map notes" addon`
`06:13.09`	`Orionshock`	`NOOOOOO`
`06:13.11`	`Xinhuan`	`however, i can write a Treasure extension`
`06:13.16`	`Xinhuan`	`that gathermate will recognize`
`06:13.37`	`Orionshock`	`well i didn't intend it to be a general notes thing, but treasure is something you gather :D`
`06:13.54`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't want gathermate to bloat into all the extra shit like Cartographer_Mailboxes, Cartographer_POIs, Cartographer_FlightMasters and whathaveyou`
`06:14.11`	`Xinhuan`	`someone even wanted a Cartographer_SpiritRezzers`
`06:14.14`	`Xinhuan`	`like wtf`
`06:14.21`	`Orionshock`	`I fully understand and recognize that you only want gathering stuff, and that treasure is not a priority :D`
`06:15.02`	`Orionshock`	`i guess a general notes addon would in fact still play nicely with GatherMate....`
`06:16.01`	`Fisker-`	`I want Cartographer_Foilage`
`06:17.16`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
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`06:21.39`	`robotusch`	`nick robo\german`
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`06:27.05`	`CIA-9`	`03parnic * r60231 10IceHUD/modules/CastBar.lua:`
`06:27.05`	`CIA-9`	`IceHUD:`
`06:27.05`	`CIA-9`	`- add an option to the player cast bar to show the default cast bar or not`
`06:30.02`	`tinderbox`	`when using an AceOptions "color" type, are there times when it passes nil as one of the r,g,b,a values?`
`06:30.17`	`tinderbox`	`im looking at my SavedVariables file and it seems that a few colors are randomly missing components`
`06:31.01`	`Xinhuan`	`if the SV file is missing a few values, that's because those values are the same as your defaults`
`06:31.12`	`Xinhuan`	`values that are the same as the defaults aren't saved`
`06:31.14`	`tinderbox`	`ah gotcha`
`06:31.28`	`Xinhuan`	`so that when you change the defaults in the core code, the defaults are inheritted`
`06:31.53`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`06:31.57`	`Xinhuan`	`hello`
`06:32.00`	`Orionshock`	`yo`
`06:32.05`	`ckknight`	`how's it going?`
`06:32.12`	`Xinhuan`	`syeren has been trying to look for you desperately the past 2 nights`
`06:32.13`	`Xinhuan`	`:D`
`06:32.17`	`Recluse`	`hrm nQL is okay i suppose but hate hate hate the font used >.>`
`06:32.58`	`Orionshock`	`ckknight: been wondering how much it would cost to have you make that "GroupCalendar" addon you where talking bout while back.... :D`
`06:33.48`	`Xinhuan`	`it will cost him a lot of sleep`
`06:33.49`	`Xinhuan`	`:D`
`06:35.07`	`Orionshock`	`naa, im in no rush`
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`06:47.59`	`CIA-9`	`03darchon * r60232 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua:`
`06:47.59`	`CIA-9`	`Decursive:`
`06:47.59`	`CIA-9`	`- koKR update`
`06:58.30`	`potemkin`	`is there a way to make a portrait square`
`07:00.37`	`ckknight_`	`yes`
`07:01.07`	`potemkin`	`how`
`07:01.13`	`ckknight_`	`PitBull does it`
`07:01.26`	`ckknight_`	`you can use a 3d portrait or trim the 2d one`
`07:01.51`	`NeoTron`	`last attunement run on KT for a new shaman`
`07:01.57`	`NeoTron`	`and we got Ashes of Al'ar`
`07:02.05`	`NeoTron`	`and a dude /rolled 100.. his luckiest roll ever`
`07:04.27`	`Fisker-`	`If we get it it'll go for DKP :P`
`07:04.37`	`Fisker-`	`which is stupid as hell`
`07:04.46`	`Fisker-`	`but i'm not the one complaining`
`07:04.52`	`Fisker-`	`i severely out-dkp everyone`
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`07:20.45`	`potemkin`	`is it possible to get a PlayerModel object to stay at SetCamera(0) without using onupdate`
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`07:23.50`	`CIA-9`	`03pprovost * r60233 10LightQueue/LightQueue.lua: LightQueue: Fixed bad boolean check in joinThis method`
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`07:25.38`	`NeoTron`	`I wanted that thing but dkp would have not bben the thing :P`
`07:25.54`	`NeoTron`	`plus... faster mount vs illidans trinket - ah well`
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`08:04.21`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60236 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`08:04.21`	`CIA-9`	`Babble-2.2:`
`08:04.21`	`CIA-9`	`- Zone: koKR Update`
`08:04.21`	`CIA-9`	`- Spell: add Well Fed and Holy Vengeance`
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`08:18.43`	`cncfanatics`	`hello all`
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`08:44.49`	`Diao`	`hey Xinhuan can you tell vessalica i'm leveling weapon skill :P`
`08:45.01`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm not online, so no.`
`08:45.05`	`Diao`	`oh :( ok`
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`09:05.54`	`Orionshock`	`anyone know of an addon that uses /gc for a slash command?`
`09:06.48`	`Orionshock`	`Killmore: ?`
`09:06.53`	`Orionshock`	`Killmore: ping`
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`09:12.25`	`Grum`	`prolly some addon that has garbagecollect`
`09:18.29`	`Orionshock`	`humm...`
`09:18.32`	`Orionshock`	`this is true...`
`09:20.38`	`Pkekyo\|`	`g'morning all`
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`09:22.21`	`CIA-9`	`03jerry * r60237 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data_koKR.lua Talented_Data_zhCN.lua): Talented_Data: regenerate`
`09:25.23`	`Zariel`	`Is it posible to change the alpha of buff frames individualy?`
`09:26.00`	`Zariel`	`trying to call BuffButton1:SetAlpha(alpha) says attempt to call method nil value`
`09:27.43`	`Fisker-`	`Antiarc :O`
`09:27.54`	`Fisker-`	`~seen Antiarc`
`09:28.02`	`purl`	`antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 57m 58s) #wowace (2d 57m 58s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1d 7h 30m 12s, last said: 'I am so glad I don't drive to work.'.`
`09:28.49`	`Bibi`	`Antiarc has been idle 3hrs 50mins 38secs`
`09:28.50`	`Bibi`	`lies`
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`09:36.59`	`Zariel`	`im trying to change the alpha of buff frames but it doesnt like it =/`
`09:37.21`	`Grum`	`change the alpha of the texture used ? :)`
`09:37.28`	`Grum`	`i have no idea how its structured however`
`09:37.48`	`Zariel`	`trying to set the alpha of the whole UIObject`
`09:38.03`	`Zariel`	`[2008/02/04 09:37:54-1815-x29]: fBuff\fBuff.lua:13: attempt to call method 'SetAlpha' (a nil value)`
`09:38.03`	`Zariel`	`fBuff\fBuff.lua:26: in function <Interface\AddOns\fBuff\fBuff.lua:18>`
`09:38.03`	`Zariel`	`---`
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`09:38.32`	`Grum`	`it has to be a frame or texture i think at least :)`
`09:38.34`	`Zariel`	`BuffButton2:SetAlpha()`
`09:39.35`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:40.31`	`Zariel`	`hm`
`09:40.49`	`Zariel`	`in game i can do /script BuffButton1:SetAlpha(0.5)`
`09:40.55`	`Zariel`	`and which works`
`09:42.25`	`Zariel`	`http://ace.pastey.net/81756`
`09:43.19`	`Zariel`	`is the code im calling from`
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`09:43.28`	`Fisker-`	`BEEP BEEP I'M AN ALARM CLOCK`
`09:43.37`	`Zariel`	`BEEP BEEP IMA JEEp`
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`09:44.23`	`Zariel`	`lol fucking typo`
`09:44.56`	`Zariel`	`maybe not, =/`
`09:45.25`	`Fisker-`	`society fucking rules`
`09:45.56`	`Fisker-`	`another chick who was "raped"`
`09:46.05`	`Fisker-`	`"Oh i gave consent? So what?"`
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`09:47.23`	`Fisker-`	`So a girl makes up a story about rape, some people gets pulled in by the police and questioned, then she admits to have faked it all`
`09:47.26`	`Fisker-`	`"Oh that poor girl"`
`09:48.19`	`Fisker-`	`So a guy says he was threatened to oral sex with another guy, he eventually admits it to being fake shortly after being "rescued by the police" he of course is charged for his evil misdeeds`
`09:49.06`	`thul`	`that is the problem with organizations fighting for "less need for proof when it comes to rape"...`
`09:49.09`	`thul`	`i hate those`
`09:49.28`	`thul`	`"the girl is in shame, she have to wash herself off the evidence sometimes, so we have to take her word for it"-kind of arguments doesen't fly with me`
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`09:50.20`	`Fisker-`	`I'm just pissed that a girl can almost get people imprisoned for a lie, and when admitted she just gets a "Oh you shouldn't do that" and gets released as that "poor girl"`
`09:50.36`	`Fisker-`	`Then some guy does the same and even before they've gotten him to the station he's been charged for lying`
`09:50.53`	`Fisker-`	`Obviously only a woman can have a mental illness`
`09:51.20`	`Hobby`	`It is more likely :)`
`09:52.16`	`Orionshock`	`IMO, lock the accused up for 5yrs and ruin his life, and lock her up for 1yr for being a dubass`
`09:52.23`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:52.54`	`Orionshock`	`or worse, community service, lots of it`
`09:53.09`	`thul`	`in norway, a few years, as much as 40% of the reported rapes were "well, he was a bit ugly" or.. "i cheated on my boyfriend".. And that is just too high a number for me`
`09:54.41`	`Zariel`	`grr, why will this not change the alpha? http://ace.pastey.net/81757`
`09:54.46`	`Zariel`	`yet i can do it ingame with the same command`
`09:55.27`	`Grum`	`i am faily sure your 'this' is nil :)`
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`09:56.07`	`Grum`	`local _G = getfenv(0) <-- you dont need to do that anymore btw`
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`09:56.21`	`Zariel`	`how come?`
`09:56.35`	`Zariel`	`the function at the bottom is just to remove blizzards flashing`
`09:57.00`	`Grum`	`check if 'this' actually contains something :)`
`09:57.09`	`Grum`	`and if so - what it is :)`
`09:57.13`	`Grum`	`this:GetName()`
`09:57.37`	`Zariel`	`in the BuffButton_OnUpdate()/`
`09:57.39`	`Grum`	`and you are not doing 'exactly that' ingame and it works - else that code would also work`
`09:57.47`	`Grum`	`yes`
`09:58.23`	`Zariel`	`that function at the bottom is copied from the framexml file`
`09:59.07`	`Zariel`	`yeah, the "this" is a nil value`
`10:00.10`	`Grum`	`well go fix ;D`
`10:00.48`	`Zariel`	`well with that function commented it still doesnt work with the same error and now the buffs flash`
`10:01.20`	`Grum`	`where did you steal the code from?`
`10:01.26`	`Grum`	`because its ripped out of context`
`10:01.40`	`Grum`	`you cant just copy/paste code from 'any' spot and expect it to work :)`
`10:01.54`	`Orionshock`	`note to Xinhuan & GM ppl, try adding a GetMouseFocus():GetName() == "WorldFrame" to the "GetWorldObject() checks :P`
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`10:02.31`	`Zariel`	`its a global function defined in the BUFFRAME.lua`
`10:02.42`	`Xinhuan`	`?`
`10:02.56`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v clad\|office] by ChanServ`
`10:02.56`	`Zariel`	`that function isnt whats breaking the buff:SetAlpha(alpha)`
`10:02.57`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo 07Ace3 * r60238 10SmoothDurability/libs/: SmoothDurability: point externals to a different direction`
`10:03.11`	`Grum`	`there is not BUFFRAME.lua in FrameXML`
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`10:03.40`	`Orionshock`	`if your fishing and you mouse over nodes on your mini map - you create pseudo nodes`
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`10:04.03`	`Zariel`	`Blizzard Interface Data (enGB)\FrameXML\BuffFrame.lua`
`10:04.45`	`Thorgard`	`Anyone know how to change with route Cartographer_Routes is showing? Hiding one and not the other doesn't seem to work.`
`10:05.23`	`Grum`	`Zariel: look in BuffFrame.xml as well`
`10:05.28`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60239 10SmoothDurability/: SmoothDurability: dump to trunk`
`10:05.46`	`Grum`	`you see the function mentioned there as well and applied onto a BuffButtonTemplate`
`10:06.16`	`Zariel`	`yep`
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`10:06.29`	`Grum`	`you cant just overwrite the global call and expect the context to be the same`
`10:06.40`	`Grum`	`but very likely 'this' will be given as the first argument`
`10:06.52`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60240 10/BetterInbox/: BetterInbox: move to trunk`
`10:07.01`	`Zariel`	`Ok then, but with that function not in the code it still doesnt work`
`10:07.08`	`[Ammo]`	`urgh booboo`
`10:07.25`	`Grum`	`Zariel: i have no idea what you do on other spots`
`10:07.30`	`Grum`	`but again - you completely miss context`
`10:07.36`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60241 10/BetterInbox/: Removed file/folder`
`10:07.49`	`Grum`	`change the function to: function BuffButton_OnUpdate(this) <-- and at least 'this' should be available to you`
`10:08.02`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60242 10BetterInbox/: BetterInbox: move to trunk`
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`10:08.20`	`Zariel`	`yeah i understand that that function is out of conext as i just COPYPASTAd it.`
`10:08.59`	`Grum`	`every single relevant line in your function uses 'this'`
`10:09.03`	`Grum`	`so how did you expect it to work?`
`10:09.21`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60243 10AnalogClock/: AnalogClock: move to trunk`
`10:09.22`	`Grum`	`oh except 50 :)`
`10:09.39`	`Orionshock`	`isn't the use of 'this' depreciated?`
`10:09.51`	`Grum`	`why?`
`10:10.01`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60244 10FishermansFriend/: FishermansFriend: move to trunk`
`10:10.07`	`Grum`	`might be that wow creates it`
`10:10.08`	`thul`	`http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/250757530-L.jpg`
`10:10.22`	`Zariel`	`with that function asside attempting to change the Alpha of the "buffonbutton"..i citing a nil method and to my mind that has nothing to do with the function with "this" involved`
`10:10.32`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60245 10GuildFilter/: GuildFilter: move to trunk`
`10:10.58`	`Orionshock`	`Zariel: context, very important`
`10:11.16`	`Zariel`	`yes but withtout that entire function in the lua file the same error occurs`
`10:11.17`	`Grum`	`Zariel: i have no idea which part of your code you are talking about now`
`10:11.44`	`Zariel`	`line 7`
`10:12.07`	`Zariel`	`that function to set the alpha of a said buff`
`10:12.09`	`Grum`	`line 20-25 is not properly indented btw`
`10:12.17`	`clad\|office`	`this is deprecated, and should only be used when absolutely necessary`
`10:12.19`	`Zariel`	`i know`
`10:12.29`	`Orionshock`	`clad why?`
`10:12.39`	`clad\|office`	`Because, its a global value, and is a hack, to say the least`
`10:12.45`	`clad\|office`	`each script handler is passed self for a reason`
`10:12.53`	`clad\|office`	`along with the other local arguments necessary to do their job`
`10:13.02`	`nevcairiel`	`someone tell blizzard that *shrug`
`10:13.03`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`10:13.06`	`clad\|office`	`the noly reason this is needed is when a hooked function still relies on the global state of "this"`
`10:13.09`	`clad\|office`	`nevcairiel: they're quite aware`
`10:13.18`	`Fisker-`	`[Ammo]`
`10:13.19`	`clad\|office`	`but as you can see QA already has a shitstorm due to regression testing`
`10:13.24`	`Fisker-`	`do you has examples of teh mods?`
`10:13.26`	`clad\|office`	`so i suspect they are waiting for the 3.0 release to do that.`
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`10:13.30`	`bleeter`	`ckknight_: please fix your IRC :)`
`10:13.31`	`Orionshock`	`clad functions not part of a table have no intrinsic self arg iirc`
`10:13.31`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`10:13.38`	`Grum`	`bleeter: its his connection`
`10:13.46`	`clad\|office`	`Orionshock: .......`
`10:13.51`	`clad\|office`	`you got seven dots for that one.`
`10:13.55`	`Orionshock`	`unless you create one ...`
`10:13.57`	`clad\|office`	`no`
`10:13.59`	`clad\|office`	`you're wrong.`
`10:14.05`	`clad\|office`	`and you're not readnig`
`10:14.07`	`Grum`	`make him pain feel!`
`10:14.08`	`wereHamster`	`~fail Orionshock`
`10:14.11`	`purl`	`Orionshock: Fail.`
`10:14.11`	`nevcairiel`	`self is just another variable`
`10:14.12`	`clad\|office`	`go look at the signatures for every single OnXXX script.`
`10:14.18`	`clad\|office`	`OnEvent gets, self, event, ...`
`10:14.22`	`clad\|office`	`OnClick gets self, button`
`10:14.26`	`clad\|office`	`OnEnter gets self, motion`
`10:14.38`	`Orionshock`	`i have, that's why i asked :D`
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`10:14.41`	`bleeter`	`Grum: of this I'm aware, hopefully he'll fix it before I'm driven via spam to have to take steps ;)`
`10:14.55`	`Grum`	`he cant fix it`
`10:14.59`	`Grum`	`so stop whining`
`10:15.01`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`can someone recommend me an addon that tracks heals, preferably one that includes my shield heal procs? :)`
`10:15.13`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60246 10GuildFilter/ (GuildFilter.lua GuildFilter.toc embeds.xml libs/): GuildFilter: externals added`
`10:15.21`	`Grum`	`your not in a channel with 6 people of which 2 of em are Ellipsis+ckk and see about 700 disconnects per hour`
`10:15.47`	`Grum`	`[Horde]Tricksy: get procwatch`
`10:15.50`	`Grum`	`if you want to watch procs`
`10:15.56`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`<3 thanks grum :)`
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`10:16.49`	`[SW]Dodge`	`http://dodgex.servegame.com/cdb.jpg <3 (coded by me!)`
`10:17.14`	`bleeter`	`nah, I'm just in a public support channel with 50 people and getting those disconnects. I'm merely being polite by dropping by a channel where he's more likely to visit to make the request`
`10:17.41`	`Grum`	`yeah i just noticed`
`10:17.48`	`Grum`	`but why dont you tell it to him there? :P`
`10:18.30`	`Grum`	`[SW]Dodge: what is it?`
`10:18.33`	`Grum`	`'cooldownbar' ?`
`10:18.39`	`bleeter`	`Grum: because I figure it's more likely he pays attention to THIS channel, as I just stated`
`10:18.47`	`Grum`	`actually .. he isnt :P`
`10:18.53`	`Fisker-`	`nah Grum`
`10:18.57`	`Fisker-`	`It's CumDonkeyBalls`
`10:19.01`	`[SW]Dodge`	`cooldown buttons :) i dont like bars it is like the default buff frame but for cooldowns :)`
`10:19.12`	`Fisker-`	`CUM DONKEY BALLS`
`10:19.18`	`Grum`	`i vote with Fisker-`
`10:19.31`	`Grum`	`[SW]Dodge: where is your code?`
`10:19.34`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`Grum, any chance you can tell me where to get a recent version of Procwatch? the incgamers link isn't working for me and the curse Procwatch(updated) is over 6 months old`
`10:19.42`	`Grum`	`because i'll rip it off and make another addon with it ;)`
`10:19.54`	`Grum`	`could be that 6 months is recent? ;D`
`10:20.19`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Grum: the code is on my pc :D`
`10:20.28`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`errr, well, the comments are too so then usually I think it's outdated :p`
`10:21.06`	`Fisker-`	`i don't want you at the next sexorgy [Ammo] :(`
`10:21.18`	`Grum`	`[Horde]Tricksy: tbh i dont have a clue`
`10:21.25`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`ok, thanks anyway ^^`
`10:22.13`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60247 10AnalogClock/ (AnalogClock.toc embeds.xml libs/): AnalogClock: external crap etc`
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`10:26.48`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60248 10BetterInbox/ (BetterInbox.lua BetterInbox.toc embeds.xml libs/): BetterInbox: externals added`
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`10:31.54`	`Fisker-`	`:o [Ammo]`
`10:31.58`	`sb`	`[Ammo]: analogclock screenshots? ;)`
`10:32.07`	`Fisker-`	`analogcock olol`
`10:32.11`	`[Ammo]`	`http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/clock.jpg`
`10:32.15`	`Fisker-`	`walked right into that one`
`10:32.22`	`Fisker-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:32.25`	`[SW]Dodge`	`404`
`10:32.34`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`10:32.36`	`[Ammo]`	`wtf`
`10:32.37`	`[Ammo]`	`oh`
`10:33.00`	`[Ammo]`	`works now`
`10:33.12`	`sb`	`hmm - nice one ;o`
`10:33.26`	`[SW]Dodge`	`:D`
`10:33.35`	`[SW]Dodge`	`whats "control freak"?`
`10:33.42`	`[Ammo]`	`imba tekkub addon`
`10:33.49`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60249 10FishermansFriend/ (FishermansFriend.toc embeds.xml libs/): FishermansFriend: externals and crap`
`10:33.52`	`[Ammo]`	`basically a crowd control button`
`10:33.55`	`[Ammo]`	`with timer in it`
`10:33.59`	`[Ammo]`	`and notifications`
`10:34.05`	`clad\|office`	`yeah its very nice`
`10:34.11`	`Fisker-`	`yay`
`10:34.13`	`Fisker-`	`you are my friend`
`10:34.27`	`[Ammo]`	`that should fix all my new addons in trunk`
`10:34.54`	`Fisker-`	`what does fishermansfriend do other than the obvious?`
`10:35.05`	`thul`	`make your breath smell good?`
`10:35.16`	`[Ammo]`	`theres a 'Notes:' field in the .toc`
`10:35.28`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`10:35.30`	`Fisker-`	`but i'm like`
`10:36.18`	`Fisker-`	`no there's not btw`
`10:36.19`	`Fisker-`	`HOHO`
`10:36.21`	`Fisker-`	`ownt`
`10:36.43`	`[Ammo]`	`moron`
`10:36.44`	`[Ammo]`	`## Title: Fishermans Friend`
`10:36.45`	`[Ammo]`	`## Notes: Doublerightclick casting, autolure and sound enhancing`
`10:37.03`	`Fisker-`	`## Title: Fishermans Friend`
`10:37.03`	`Fisker-`	`## Author: Ammo`
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`10:37.16`	`Fisker-`	`but i'm guessing the "and crap" is the addition of said note`
`10:39.02`	`Fisker-`	`i hope you don't put in something like a while true loop for me :(`
`10:39.29`	`[Ammo]`	`naah that's put in Ace3`
`10:40.46`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`10:40.51`	`Fisker-`	`BetterInbox looks nice though`
`10:41.43`	`Orionshock`	`wtb better outbox?`
`10:41.46`	`Grum`	`omg [Ammo]: your ui is so bloatedz`
`10:42.08`	`[Ammo]`	`oh`
`10:43.03`	`thul`	`Grum: ur`
`10:43.03`	`Fisker-`	`since they buffed the mailsystem a massmail mod is pretty much useless now`
`10:43.04`	`thul`	`l`
`10:43.05`	`thul`	`:-P`
`10:43.25`	`Grum`	`telnet://127.1`
`10:43.25`	`Fisker-`	`i'm gonna disable bulkmail and start using BetterInbox instead`
`10:43.28`	`Orionshock`	`mass mail, no - alt-click to add`
`10:43.58`	`Orionshock`	`and sometimes blizz's mass mail isn't always enough`
`10:44.01`	`Grum`	`[Ammo]: 'crowd control button' ?`
`10:44.02`	`Fisker-`	`you can just rightclick to add`
`10:44.13`	`Grum`	`you can frostnova with it?`
`10:44.16`	`Orionshock`	`plus the redesign looks cool`
`10:44.40`	`Grum`	`screenshot of BetterInbox? :)`
`10:48.07`	`thul`	`Grum: i can't get that telnet to work :-(`
`10:48.17`	`Grum`	`omg`
`10:48.20`	`Grum`	`you must be hacked then`
`10:48.25`	`Grum`	`give me your wow user/pass quickly`
`10:48.28`	`Grum`	`so you dont loose it`
`10:49.03`	`Killmore`	`[Ammo]: did SmoothDurability use repairfound if available ?`
`10:49.06`	`thul`	`OK!!`
`10:49.36`	`Grum`	`m/sg ok so your password is 'i<3mommy' right?`
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`10:50.52`	`Xinhuan`	`i forgot what smooth durability does`
`10:50.59`	`Xinhuan`	`enlighten me, someone? ^^`
`10:51.10`	`thul`	`:-(`
`10:51.18`	`Fisker-`	`btw [Ammo]`
`10:51.32`	`Fisker-`	`looks like guildfilter is failing to load :o`
`10:51.43`	`Fisker-`	`## Title: Fishermans Friend`
`10:51.43`	`Fisker-`	`## Author: Ammo`
`10:51.45`	`Fisker-`	`bah`
`10:51.50`	`Fisker-`	`IsAddOnLoaded("GuildFilter") then Ad...":1: attempt to call method 'LoadAddOn' (a nil value)`
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`10:55.29`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60250 10AddonLoader/AddonLoader.lua: AddonLoader: update AddonLoader API. This is an inbetween commit so it is in line with the new addonloader`
`10:55.32`	`[Ammo]`	`Fisker-: ^------`
`10:56.45`	`Xinhuan`	`is that addonloader the same one as on googlecode now?`
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`10:56.49`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`10:56.56`	`[Ammo]`	`but the API is updated to reflect it`
`10:57.02`	`Xinhuan`	`cos i'm using the gcode one`
`10:57.09`	`[Ammo]`	`gcode one will work just fine`
`10:57.13`	`[Ammo]`	`it just doesn't have overrides`
`10:57.20`	`[Ammo]`	`once it has those we'll dump it here`
`10:57.30`	`Xinhuan`	`ok`
`10:57.38`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't use any overrides, so i use the gcode one`
`10:57.41`	`Killmore`	`[Ammo]: did SmoothDurability use repairfound if avalable ?`
`10:57.49`	`[Ammo]`	`the what?`
`10:58.13`	`[Ammo]`	`repair found?`
`10:58.20`	`Killmore`	`fund*`
`10:58.25`	`[Ammo]`	`no it wont`
`11:01.39`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r60251 10Mapster/ (FogClear.lua Mapster.toc embeds.xml):`
`11:01.39`	`CIA-9`	`Mapster:`
`11:01.39`	`CIA-9`	`- fix FogClear module on BattlefieldMinimap frame`
`11:01.39`	`CIA-9`	`- remove embeds.xml`
`11:03.36`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60252 10Mapster/: Mapster: move to trunk`
`11:03.57`	`Killmore`	`mapster ?`
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`11:04.35`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60253 10/branches/Mapster/: Mapster: remove branch`
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`11:07.19`	`nevcairiel`	`yes mapster`
`11:08.25`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm`
`11:08.28`	`Xinhuan`	`PC hung`
`11:08.31`	`Xinhuan`	`for some weird reason`
`11:08.42`	`Xinhuan`	`anyway, blackrock server died`
`11:08.44`	`Xinhuan`	`for 20-30 min`
`11:08.52`	`Xinhuan`	`SO GLAD killed illidan yesterday`
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`11:09.20`	`Killmore`	`first time ?`
`11:09.27`	`nevcairiel`	`we did illidan with a new MT yesterday, wiped for like an hour too, but then finally managed :P`
`11:09.50`	`Xinhuan`	`yeo`
`11:09.51`	`Xinhuan`	`yep`
`11:09.53`	`Xinhuan`	`first time`
`11:09.58`	`Xinhuan`	`bulwark + memento`
`11:09.58`	`Killmore`	`oh grats !`
`11:10.19`	`nevcairiel`	`we had the tank head piece and the healing mace ... again`
`11:10.21`	`nevcairiel`	`wtb new lootz`
`11:10.32`	`Xinhuan`	`we just cleared like hyjal trash x2 sets of waves on 3rd boss`
`11:10.35`	`Xinhuan`	`and server keeps crashing`
`11:10.45`	`nevcairiel`	`we never had the dagger, either of the trinkets`
`11:10.52`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60254 10SmoothDurability/ (SmoothDurability.toc embeds.xml libs.xml): SmoothDurability: switcheroo`
`11:11.04`	`Killmore`	`how many glaives ?`
`11:11.11`	`nevcairiel`	`2 off hands`
`11:11.23`	`nevcairiel`	`no main hand`
`11:11.24`	`Killmore`	`got 1 mh and 1 offhands`
`11:11.35`	`Xinhuan`	`our server as a whole has about 4 offhands and 0 mainhands`
`11:11.40`	`Xinhuan`	`until yesterday`
`11:11.47`	`syeren`	`Could be worse, could be Nihilum.`
`11:11.49`	`syeren`	`0 Glaives!`
`11:11.53`	`nevcairiel`	`haha owned`
`11:12.03`	`Xinhuan`	`so my guild chat is like`
`11:12.05`	`Killmore`	`they still got 0 glaives ? :P`
`11:12.06`	`Snago`	`Killmore: Did both go to the same person?`
`11:12.07`	`syeren`	`Not really, they finished the game 8 months ago ;p`
`11:12.09`	`Xinhuan`	`"Hey we're on par with DnT now"`
`11:12.12`	`Killmore`	`Snago: yes`
`11:12.14`	`Xinhuan`	`and everyone is like lol`
`11:12.33`	`Snago`	`Killmore: That's a wet dream come true ;)`
`11:14.38`	`nevcairiel`	`we had that rule, whoever gets the first gets the second too, so only full sets go out`
`11:14.48`	`nevcairiel`	`now we only need that mh to drop :P`
`11:15.03`	`Xinhuan`	`that rule is obvious`
`11:15.07`	`Xinhuan`	`most guilsd would use it`
`11:15.17`	`Xinhuan`	`kind of like gaar bindings`
`11:15.25`	`Orionshock`	`wasn't it the same with atiesh?`
`11:15.38`	`Xinhuan`	`ya`
`11:15.42`	`Orionshock`	`who ever got the first splinter got the rest`
`11:15.50`	`Xinhuan`	`well unless you have your bindings to a hunter ;p`
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`11:24.00`	`vithos`	`do any of the autorepair addons solve the napsack problem when repairing from guild funds with a limit < cost to repair all?`
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`11:26.08`	`Xinhuan`	`that's a blizzard issue imo`
`11:26.29`	`Xinhuan`	`blizz shouldjust repair up to your guild limit then pay from your own money for the rest`
`11:27.58`	`vithos`	`yeah, they should`
`11:28.39`	`vithos`	`but currently i'm forced to manually single-repair items until i can gbank repair`
`11:28.44`	`vithos`	`my limit is 10g/day`
`11:28.56`	`vithos`	`it's almost not worth the effort`
`11:29.12`	`vithos`	`i guess i should just write my own addon to do it`
`11:30.17`	`vithos`	`or modify one`
`11:30.40`	`Orionshock`	`... vithos u a MT or a Healer of the guild?`
`11:30.50`	`vithos`	`no`
`11:31.02`	`Orionshock`	`.. don't use repair funds then... just not right.`
`11:31.12`	`Orionshock`	`see problem solved`
`11:31.39`	`vithos`	`i realize that it's easier for me to kill things`
`11:31.47`	`vithos`	`but that's not the only way to make gold`
`11:31.55`	`vithos`	`and the guild bank wouldn't generate gold with no dps either`
`11:32.28`	`Orionshock`	`i do 5 daily quests, get about 90g ....`
`11:32.42`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60255 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: add AceEvent-3.0 to FogClear module`
`11:32.57`	`Orionshock`	`MT's take durability dmg like a bitch and usualy 4x as much as any dps class`
`11:33.39`	`vithos`	`yeah, i just do random dailies sometimes and farm herbs sometimes`
`11:33.41`	`Orionshock`	`guild bank isn't a bottomless pit of gold, something has to fill it :P`
`11:34.17`	`vithos`	`ours apparently is. our gm payed some other guild 3k gold for an ssc once that was cleared to karathress`
`11:35.05`	`Orionshock`	`O.O`
`11:35.08`	`Orionshock`	`2words`
`11:35.12`	`Orionshock`	`Dumb Ass`
`11:35.22`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60256 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: unregister events in OnDisable`
`11:35.25`	`vithos`	`we were like "we can only do that 10 more times!"`
`11:35.29`	`vithos`	`or however many`
`11:35.38`	`vithos`	`something like that`
`11:36.22`	`vithos`	`so yeah, i don't really feel bad about repairing from the guild bank even on the 4 days between raiding`
`11:37.28`	`vithos`	`and we're only going to get richer with the 2.4 changes`
`11:37.45`	`vithos`	`but anyway, that's a moot point`
`11:38.06`	`vithos`	`it'd be a worthwhile addon feature regardless`
`11:41.26`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60257 10Mapster/ (FogClear.lua GroupIcons.lua): Mapster: Ace3 handles unregister/unhook on disabling my modules, my bad :)`
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`11:44.35`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60259 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: fix typo`
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`11:51.39`	`Killmore`	`?`
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`11:52.55`	`Thorgard`	`nevcairiel, Mapster?`
`11:53.35`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60260 10AnalogClock/ (AnalogClock.toc embeds.xml libs.xml line.tga): AnalogClock: switcheroo and use smaller line.tga by Xinhuan`
`11:53.58`	`Grum`	`Thorgard: Cartographer_LooknFeel plus a bit more`
`11:54.24`	`Thorgard`	`Hunkydory`
`11:55.00`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60261 10BetterInbox/ (BetterInbox.toc embeds.xml libs.xml): BetterInbox: switch`
`11:55.26`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60262 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: completly reset all textures when disabling FogClear`
`11:56.27`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60263 10FishermansFriend/ (FishermansFriend.toc embeds.xml libs.xml): FishermansFriend: switch`
`11:57.21`	`Xinhuan`	`swuitch == what?`
`11:57.28`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo * r60264 10GuildFilter/ (GuildFilter.toc embeds.xml libs.xml): GuildFilter: switch`
`11:57.29`	`Xinhuan`	`switch`
`11:57.39`	`nevcairiel`	`he renames embeds.xml to libs.xml`
`11:57.41`	`[Ammo]`	`from embeds.xml to libs.xml so it doesn't get assraped by WAU`
`11:57.45`	`Xinhuan`	`oh`
`11:57.48`	`Kalroth`	`"A switch is a mechanical device used to connect and disconnect a circuit at will. Switches cover a wide range of types, from subminiature up to industrial plant switching megawatts of power on high voltage distribution lines."`
`11:58.33`	`Kalroth`	`When's Ace3 going beta btw?!`
`11:58.46`	`nevcairiel`	`Kalroth: like yesterday`
`11:58.53`	`Kalroth`	`Oh, that soon?`
`11:59.03`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60265 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: fix error with setting overlay color, thanks Killmore`
`11:59.08`	`Fisker-`	`damnit`
`11:59.14`	`Kalroth`	`poor Kalman`
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`12:00.08`	`Kalroth`	`How many of the "big" addons are using Ace3?`
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`12:02.32`	`[SW]Dodge`	`gathermate, routes, gatherhud`
`12:02.42`	`[SW]Dodge`	`bt4 ora3 are still in work :P`
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`12:03.33`	`Fisker-`	`do want oRA3`
`12:04.52`	`Xinhuan`	`i have a list somewhere dodge`
`12:05.23`	`[SW]Dodge`	`CoolDownButtons is WiP also :)`
`12:06.20`	`Xinhuan`	`gathermate (and accessory addons), routes, mapster, statblocks, Ipopbar, guild craft, betterinbox, aguf, dock, Bartender4, ora3`
`12:06.24`	`Xinhuan`	`and some of the few ammo just commited to`
`12:06.31`	`Xinhuan`	`and quartz is half in ace3 now`
`12:07.13`	`CIA-9`	`03rabbit * r60266 10NRT/NRT.lua:`
`12:07.13`	`CIA-9`	`NRT:`
`12:07.13`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:07.13`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:07.36`	`Kalroth`	`Bunny is being a busy rodent too!`
`12:07.43`	`CIA-9`	`03ammo 07Ace3 * r60267 10oRA3/ (modules/Durability.lua oRA3.lua): oRA3: drycode plumbing for manual refreshing of overviews`
`12:08.40`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60268 10Mapster/ (FogClear.lua Mapster.lua): Mapster: improve Refresh handling in Mapster config`
`12:09.02`	`Kalroth`	`agUF is being Ace3'ed too?`
`12:09.41`	`thul`	`aguf ftw.`
`12:09.59`	`thul`	`I'm getting a new desktop computer for the summer, thats fo sho.`
`12:10.06`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`12:10.12`	`Xinhuan`	`aguf is nearly release ready in ace3`
`12:10.45`	`Kalroth`	`Ah, it hasn't been pushed to files.wowace.com then. I'm worried about using WUA and getting some halfarsed updates, just so addons can say they're Ace3. :)`
`12:11.08`	`Kalroth`	`I guess I'll just leave it as it is, if it works, don't fix it.`
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`12:12.17`	`Orionshock`	`oRA3 looks to be coming along nicely .... i wonder bout it...`
`12:12.47`	`[Ammo]`	`there is nothing to see about oRA3`
`12:12.51`	`[Ammo]`	`apart from the readychecks which are pretty`
`12:12.57`	`Kalroth`	`Ooh, pretty.`
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`12:17.34`	`Recluse`	`anyone know of any dense areas w/melee only 64-66ish mobs worth grinding at?`
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`12:23.43`	`[SW]Dodge`	`whats the "Zone Map" mentioned in Routes?`
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`12:26.41`	`Recluse`	`mini-zonemap. press shift-M to toggle (by default)`
`12:27.00`	`sb`	`[Ammo]: readycheck screenshot? ;)`
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`12:27.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ah nice... but direct an error with capping O.o`
`12:27.30`	`[SW]Dodge`	`s/capping/capping and skinner/`
`12:28.18`	`Killmore`	`yeah wtb readycheck screenshot :P`
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`12:31.32`	`Grum`	`<Recluse> anyone know of any dense areas w/melee only 64-66ish mobs worth grinding at? <-- maybe wildlife in Nagrand?`
`12:31.46`	`Grum`	`dunno what lvl they are though`
`12:32.49`	`Pkekyo\|`	`anyone that know DogTags around?`
`12:33.25`	`Grum`	`i toyed with it yesterday - why?`
`12:33.30`	`Grum`	`it has a nice help now ;)`
`12:33.58`	`Recluse`	`Grum: yeah, i was trying out the birds up in the NW, but scared gutripper might swoop on me. also, killing 3-4 per pull means i have to travel to each 'nest' of em :/ not sure if talbuks would work since they stun and bleed a lot (tho they are very densely grouped)`
`12:34.37`	`Grum`	`well you have those eleks/talbuks/clefthoofs/birds`
`12:34.43`	`Grum`	`or what about the ogres in that area?`
`12:36.47`	`Recluse`	`well, so far the ogres are about 50/50 melee/caster. casters = teh suck lol. i guess nagrand would be my best bet overall tho sigh`
`12:39.07`	`Grum`	`casters die fastar`
`12:39.26`	`Recluse`	`they hurt too bad to pull groups of em tho`
`12:39.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`13:31Grumi toyed with it yesterday - why? <---- know the tag for defining the class of the target?`
`12:40.08`	`Grum`	`the 'class'?`
`12:40.12`	`Grum`	`paladin/mage/.. ?`
`12:40.54`	`Grum`	`just a guess, [Class] ?`
`12:41.00`	`Recluse`	`lol`
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`12:41.34`	`Grum`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags <-- most of that applies`
`12:42.03`	`Grum`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-2.0/Tags <-- epic`
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`12:50.51`	`Pkekyo\|`	`~seen toadkiller`
`12:51.03`	`purl`	`toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 59d 10h 28m 44s ago, saying: 'no it needs to swallow a bear which swallowed a man'.`
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`12:51.12`	`Pkekyo\|`	`damnit`
`12:51.31`	`Pkekyo\|`	`anyone got any idea why autobar won't show my portals, only teleports?`
`12:52.30`	`Fisker-`	`is "it sucks" a valid answer?`
`12:55.18`	`vhaarr`	`I finally stopped using autobar a week or so ago, I've never been so glad to be rid of an addon`
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`12:56.00`	`vhaarr`	`if he could just manage to keep it small, useful and simple, I would have no problem with it, but the thing is a damn behemoth`
`12:56.58`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Fisker-: no, screw you`
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`13:09.00`	`RaydenUni`	`morning`
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`13:10.51`	`CIA-9`	`03rabbit * r60271 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Removed the "Click here to take attendance now" line in the tooltip and made it into the doubleclick action for the fubar plugin/minimap icon instead.`
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`13:12.36`	`[Ammo]`	`vhaarr: doubleclick sucks`
`13:12.43`	`[Ammo]`	`since it executes a singleclick as well`
`13:12.47`	`Xinhuan`	`^`
`13:12.51`	`vhaarr`	`really`
`13:12.54`	`vhaarr`	`that sucks indeed`
`13:12.54`	`[Ammo]`	`really`
`13:13.02`	`Xinhuan`	`confirmed`
`13:13.16`	`vhaarr`	`doesn't really matter for NRT, since there is no singleclick action`
`13:13.22`	`Xinhuan`	`oh heh`
`13:13.27`	`[Ammo]`	`oh ok`
`13:13.40`	`[Ammo]`	`just thought I'd let ya know`
`13:13.45`	`vhaarr`	`but thanks for the heads up`
`13:13.47`	`vhaarr`	`yer`
`13:14.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`bah, trying to apply for a job, but the fuckers won't answer the phone :p`
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`13:35.34`	`RaydenUni`	`dude`
`13:35.57`	`RaydenUni`	`according to gankbang.com i have the 18th most shadow damage of any shadow priest on my server`
`13:36.09`	`thul`	`oi oi`
`13:36.12`	`thul`	`how much?`
`13:36.12`	`thul`	`:-P`
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`13:36.24`	`RaydenUni`	`1080`
`13:36.29`	`RaydenUni`	`http://www.gankbang.com/a/stats.php?wc=priest&s=shadowdamage&realm=Destromath&faction=horde&h=true&loc=US&build=Shadow`
`13:36.36`	`RaydenUni`	`i'm not entirely sure it's grabbing everyone though`
`13:37.59`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah pretty sure it isn't as i know of one spriest that isnt' showing up`
`13:38.03`	`RaydenUni`	`oh maybe he respecced`
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`13:38.32`	`RaydenUni`	`no...`
`13:38.40`	`Erica`	`Is Mapster and Gathermate meant to be like a light Cartographer replacement or do they just supplement it?`
`13:38.41`	`Stanzilla`	`< 1288 unbuffed`
`13:38.50`	`Stanzilla`	`Erica: replacement`
`13:39.00`	`RaydenUni`	`Stanzilla where are you raiding?`
`13:39.05`	`Erica`	`ARe they meant to be used together?`
`13:39.10`	`thul`	`http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Aloris <- something tells me that he is dealing some damage`
`13:39.11`	Funkeh`	`Erica, no`
`13:39.14`	`Stanzilla`	`RaydenUni: EU Zirkel des Cenarius (german)`
`13:39.25`	Funkeh`	`Erica, you can but you don't have to`
`13:39.40`	`Kalman\|work`	`Fisker-: My highlighting function hates you.`
`13:39.40`	`Erica`	`Does Mapster track mining and herbing nodes?`
`13:39.49`	Funkeh`	`Erica, no, gathermate does that`
`13:39.57`	`Lukian`	`Which revision of cartographer doesn't have this annoying waypoints error? :D`
`13:40.13`	Funkeh`	`Lukian, maybe you should just ask ckknight_ to fix it`
`13:40.17`	`Erica`	`Ok kool... I'm gonna go try those out :)`
`13:40.26`	`thul`	`http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bleeding+Hollow&n=Gimmix <- ho ho ho`
`13:40.28`	`Lukian`	Funkeh`, if he's here, that'd be great ^_^
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`13:42.14`	`Kalroth`	`thul: three times a ho, eh?`
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`13:42.18`	`Stanzilla`	`Lukian: make a jira ticket please :)`
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`13:45.19`	`Chompers`	`morning ckk`
`13:48.53`	`thul`	`Kalroth: I feel inferior:P`
`13:50.15`	`Lukian`	`Stanzilla, done.`
`13:50.25`	`Stanzilla`	`Lukian: link? :)`
`13:50.31`	`Lukian`	`http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-379`
`13:50.36`	`Stanzilla`	`thx`
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`13:50.59`	`Erica`	`Is there a waypoints module for mapster?`
`13:51.21`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`13:51.29`	`[Ammo]`	`there is TomTom on wowinterface`
`13:51.44`	`Erica`	`Ah ok... thanks Ammo!`
`13:51.51`	`Erica`	`That looks really sweet so far`
`13:52.23`	`Grum`	`Erica: mapster would also not get a waypoint module`
`13:52.29`	`Stanzilla`	`but TomTom does not have teh cool arrow`
`13:52.34`	`[Ammo]`	`TomTom trunk has`
`13:52.41`	`Stanzilla`	`TomTom trunk is broken :P`
`13:52.41`	`[Ammo]`	`and once it's stable the wowi one will have as well`
`13:52.42`	`Grum`	`but its broken`
`13:52.45`	`[Ammo]`	`it works fine for me`
`13:52.46`	`Stanzilla`	`(the last time i checked)`
`13:52.52`	`Stanzilla`	`that's because you haxx0rt it`
`13:52.54`	`[Ammo]`	`astrolabe generates some errors but it works`
`13:52.59`	`[Ammo]`	`nono, I removed my hacks :)`
`13:53.04`	`Grum`	`so astrolabe is poop?`
`13:53.08`	`Erica`	`I noticed that Gathermate doesn't show up in Rock config... is it command line only?`
`13:53.16`	`Grum`	`Erica: what is that rock config?`
`13:53.19`	`Stanzilla`	`Erica: /gathermate`
`13:53.20`	`Grum`	`type /gathermate`
`13:53.29`	`Erica`	`thanks all`
`13:53.41`	`Grum`	`download Routes as well if you are getting stuff ready :)`
`13:54.06`	`Erica`	`Grum... rock is the configuration gui for pitbull and other mods that use Rock`
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`13:54.28`	`Grum`	`and what is GatherMate build upon? right ..Ace3 ! =D`
`13:54.35`	`Erica`	`yes`
`13:54.50`	`Erica`	`I hope Bartender 4 comes out soon`
`13:55.30`	`Erica`	`ok off to try out tomtom`
`13:55.35`	`Erica`	`:)`
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`13:56.01`	`Fulnir`	`Hello everyone. I've just found an error in my Bugsack, but it isn't specified to an actual addon. Do anyone of you have an idea to where I can post it and maybe find a solution to the problem?`
`13:56.30`	`wereHamster`	`Fulnir, see topic`
`13:57.06`	`Fulnir`	`I have, but not quite sure what you mean. Go to wowace.com ?`
`13:57.12`	`wereHamster`	`http://ace.pastey.net`
`13:57.40`	`wereHamster`	`and then post the link here and wait for someone to fix it`
`13:58.06`	`Fulnir`	`I choose Lau for language, right? (sorry, not a coder of any sort here)`
`13:59.52`	`Grum`	`doesnt matter`
`13:59.54`	`Grum`	`plain text is fine :0`
`14:00.02`	`Grum`	`you can select lua if you please but most errors arent really lua`
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`14:03.23`	`Fulnir`	`ok, so I select none i language, me as author and some topic name. Where do I "generate" the paste? Sorry for all the stupid questions :(`
`14:04.11`	`Fisker-`	`bottom right`
`14:04.13`	`Fisker-`	`left`
`14:04.15`	`Fisker-`	`"Paste"`
`14:05.43`	`Lukian`	`haha, what a trivial fix for that cartographer_waypoints bug`
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`14:06.12`	`Fulnir`	`Thank you Fisker. Here's the link http://ace.pastey.net/81759`
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`14:07.52`	`Erica`	`I really like Mapmate and Gathermate... I have exactly what I need with Tomtom`
`14:08.04`	`Erica`	`TomTom worked great for me too btw`
`14:08.17`	`Xinhuan`	`do you use Routes too? ;p`
`14:08.32`	`Erica`	`I've tried routes but it just seems like too much clutter`
`14:08.37`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`14:08.42`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
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`14:08.49`	`Lukian`	`:D`
`14:09.06`	`Xinhuan`	`efficient farming routes, its worth the clutter imo!`
`14:09.07`	`Erica`	`Maybe I just haven't played around with it enough or something... I just had a bunch of lines lol`
`14:09.17`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah you need to go to "optimize route"`
`14:09.23`	`Xinhuan`	`and click the "optimize" button`
`14:09.52`	`Erica`	`ok I'll give it a try`
`14:10.11`	`Erica`	`Thanks`
`14:10.35`	`Xinhuan`	`you should get something like`
`14:10.35`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp3.jpg`
`14:10.57`	`Xinhuan`	`of course that SS is a bit extreme`
`14:11.04`	`Xinhuan`	`since its like a 650 node route`
`14:11.54`	`Lukian`	`oh Why are routes shown on characters that don't have gathering professions?`
`14:12.03`	`Grum`	`you can choose that?`
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`14:12.14`	`Xinhuan`	`you can go to your main options and change that easily`
`14:12.32`	`Xinhuan`	`Routes --> Options --> Use Auto-show/hide`
`14:12.50`	`Grum`	`its like magic that it has those options just now you ask for em ;D`
`14:12.55`	`Lukian`	`in the cart version too?`
`14:13.00`	`Grum`	`what is that?`
`14:13.01`	`Xinhuan`	`cart version has them too`
`14:13.08`	`Grum`	`stop using that piece of crap :p`
`14:13.14`	`Grum`	`get the new one! ;D`
`14:13.30`	`Lukian`	`ah found it`
`14:13.56`	`Recluse`	`methinks i need to restart wow - it's up to 700mb ram >.>`
`14:14.31`	`Lukian`	`only 501mb here ^_^`
`14:14.38`	`Lukian`	`although I did just restart it`
`14:15.09`	`Recluse`	`it's usually around 300 lol`
`14:15.09`	`Grum`	`Recluse: why do you need to restart then?`
`14:15.18`	`Grum`	`you've just been using it for a long time`
`14:15.36`	`Recluse`	`yeah, it's been on for ~36 hours now`
`14:15.46`	`Recluse`	`not logged in the whole time, but running`
`14:16.27`	`Ozguli`	`I only have 512mb ram!`
`14:16.27`	`Xinhuan`	`i restart wow once in a while, mainly to`
`14:16.33`	`Xinhuan`	`make sure it saves the cache folder`
`14:16.34`	`Ozguli`	`so 700mb would be already half paged...`
`14:16.37`	`Xinhuan`	`for my itemcache`
`14:16.40`	`Lukian`	`Xinhuan, haha ^_^`
`14:16.42`	`Killmore`	`Xinhuan: use this one instead, http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9517/routespi0.jpg routes + mapster :P`
`14:16.43`	`Grum`	`Ozguli: LOL`
`14:16.51`	`Lukian`	`Ozguli, oh dear!!`
`14:17.04`	`Xinhuan`	`notice that i use carto only because it still has _Treasure in it`
`14:17.21`	`Grum`	`ditto`
`14:17.30`	`Grum`	`but the rest of carto is disabled :)`
`14:17.37`	`Grum`	`well guildposition/groupcolors isnt`
`14:17.50`	`nevcairiel`	`mapster does groupcolors you fool :P`
`14:18.03`	`Xinhuan`	`btw`
`14:18.07`	`Grum`	`didnt check yet you foolz`
`14:18.10`	`Xinhuan`	`feel free to click the "optimize" button a few times`
`14:18.19`	`Xinhuan`	`you might ramdomly get better routes from it`
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`14:19.49`	`Recluse`	`mapster on trunk yet? just curious, not pushing`
`14:19.49`	`nevcairiel`	`it is`
`14:20.05`	`Recluse`	`ah ^.^`
`14:20.33`	`Recluse`	`been meaning to test it out but never got around to it`
`14:20.39`	`Grum`	`Ace3 went public beta so there has been a nice shift of Ace3 dependant beta addons that moved along :)`
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`14:21.27`	`Xinhuan`	`i prob won't be switching to mapster just yet until i find s solution for _Treasure`
`14:21.29`	`Xinhuan`	`a*`
`14:21.38`	`Grum`	`well, GatherMate support :P`
`14:21.47`	`Xinhuan`	`its not that simple`
`14:22.14`	`Grum`	`true`
`14:22.18`	`Grum`	`it has a different collector`
`14:22.22`	`Xinhuan`	`detecting opening an object is actually far more difficult than a simple herb`
`14:22.52`	`Grum`	`ah well, as discussed, moving to a bit more plugin style db we can just release _Treasuer`
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`14:23.57`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> local i; for i=1, 5 do i=i; end; print(i)`
`14:23.57`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: nil`
`14:24.06`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> for i=1, 5 do i=i; end; print(i)`
`14:24.06`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: nil`
`14:24.17`	`kenlyric`	`bah`
`14:24.26`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua>x=2; for i=1, 5 do x=i; end; print(x)`
`14:24.26`	`kenlyric`	`why can't I make tomtom's coord disappear?`
`14:24.27`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: 5`
`14:25.27`	`Grum`	`lua> local i = 5; print(i)`
`14:25.28`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: 5`
`14:25.29`	`Grum`	`? :P`
`14:26.02`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Grum: i have more code in the loop, but for testing that is enough :D`
`14:26.46`	`[SW]Dodge`	`here http://rafb.net/p/ORp3NL24.html ^^`
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`14:29.16`	`thul`	`hmm, url to tv serie streaming online site? :-P`
`14:29.34`	`[SW]Dodge`	`thul: just for animes :)`
`14:29.49`	`thul`	`sidereel`
`14:29.49`	`thul`	`:-D`
`14:29.51`	`thul`	`found`
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`14:36.02`	`xyu`	`www.veoh.com has a lot of anime streams`
`14:36.32`	`thul`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:38.37`	`Lukian`	`ahahaha`
`14:39.53`	`thul`	`ey, what is wrong with sga? :-P`
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`14:41.02`	`Snago`	`thul: I don't know about streaming, but you can get torrents here: http://www.tvtorrents.com/`
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`14:41.16`	`Ozguli`	`uh.. how big is one dvd?`
`14:41.48`	`Killmore`	`4.7g ?`
`14:41.49`	`CIA-9`	`03kurax * r60272 10Automaton/ (21 files in 3 dirs): Automaton: Added zhCN locales`
`14:41.55`	`Snago`	`Ozguli: Mine says 4.7 GB`
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`14:42.14`	`Ozguli`	`ok, I might only need... several of them`
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`14:48.07`	`Thorgard`	`What's a good minimap mod?`
`14:48.19`	`Recluse`	`i like simpleMinimap`
`14:49.33`	`Sitanel`	`Im kinda partial to Squeenix ;)`
`14:52.22`	`Recluse`	`1 more level and i'll have my first _horde_ 70 ^.^`
`14:52.40`	`CIA-9`	`03parnic * r60273 10IceHUD/modules/CastBar.lua:`
`14:52.40`	`CIA-9`	`IceHUD:`
`14:52.40`	`CIA-9`	`- added vertical/horizontal text offset options to the castbar`
`14:52.52`	`Shirik`	`Welcome to the dark side`
`14:52.57`	`Shirik`	`You will find it is much brighter here`
`14:53.00`	`Shirik`	`and far more intelligent`
`14:53.31`	`xyu`	`unless you're in a BG`
`14:53.32`	`Recluse`	`i dunno about all that lol`
`14:53.38`	`xyu`	`in which case you'll find all the retards`
`14:53.43`	`Shirik`	`I dunno, alliance are pretty damn stupid in BGs too`
`14:53.53`	`Shirik`	`my battlegroup seems to be intelligent; we rarely lose`
`14:54.42`	`Recluse`	`personality-wise, everyone seems the same as alliance people. it's the play style that's different from what i've seen so far`
`14:56.28`	`kenlyric`	`bah`
`14:56.32`	`kenlyric`	`idiots abound`
`14:57.00`	`kenlyric`	`for every nelf hunter there's an undead warlock to counter them.`
`14:57.12`	`Recluse`	`lol`
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`15:00.45`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60274 10Routes/: Routes: Create Taboo branch`
`15:02.22`	`Grum`	`Tabboooooo`
`15:03.26`	`kneeki`	`Morning everyone`
`15:03.49`	`Killmore`	`taboo ?`
`15:04.07`	`[SW]Dodge`	`g'morning kneeki`
`15:07.05`	`CIA-9`	`03stan * r60275 10Routes/Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: Routes: deDE update.`
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`15:07.27`	`Shirik`	`Taboo means "gtfo"`
`15:07.29`	`Shirik`	`basically`
`15:07.44`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07PluginAPI * r60276 10GatherMate/: GatherMate: branch for some work`
`15:10.17`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel * r60277 10/branches/GatherMate/ (12 files in 4 dirs): GatherMate: clean old branch`
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`15:10.53`	`thul`	`I love the lady in sga s04e05`
`15:11.35`	`CIA-9`	`03nevcairiel 07PluginAPI * r60278 10GatherMate/ (5 files): GatherMate: first pass, some config stuff might be broken`
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`15:14.23`	`CIA-9`	`03cwdg * r60279 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs):`
`15:14.23`	`CIA-9`	`Babble-2.2:`
`15:14.23`	`CIA-9`	`-update zhCN local`
`15:14.23`	`CIA-9`	`--Spell: Holy Vengeance & Well Fed`
`15:14.23`	`CIA-9`	`--Zone: Quel'thalas`
`15:14.24`	`CIA-9`	`--Inventory: update zhCN local`
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`15:22.09`	`CIA-9`	`03next96 * r60280 10Mapster/Mapster.toc:`
`15:22.09`	`CIA-9`	`Mapster:`
`15:22.10`	`CIA-9`	`- Missing Library added (AceLocale-3.0)`
`15:22.14`	`kenlyric`	`man, tomtom is a pale substitution for cart_waypoints`
`15:22.56`	`kenlyric`	`needs giant red arrow.`
`15:24.17`	`thul`	`I love kyuss`
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`15:51.29`	`Stanzilla`	`Lukian: there :P`
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`16:00.27`	`Amadeo`	`WoW screenshot - http://i26.tinypic.com/1zqejxk.jpg`
`16:00.43`	`Lukian`	`Stanzilla, woot :D`
`16:02.23`	`thul`	`wtf Amadeo ?`
`16:02.25`	`CIA-9`	`037destiny * r60285 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`16:02.25`	`CIA-9`	`Babble-2.2:`
`16:02.25`	`CIA-9`	`- Spell: fixed translation for koKR`
`16:03.10`	`Amadeo`	`thul: What? :)`
`16:03.46`	`thul`	`what is that? :-P`
`16:04.09`	`Lukian`	`A level two getting eaten by a ~4x elite in STV`
`16:04.36`	`thul`	`and? :-P`
`16:04.39`	`Amadeo`	`It has secret significance!`
`16:04.46`	`Amadeo`	`You have to read into it more!`
`16:04.51`	`Lukian`	`oh wait, that's not stv, that's feralas isn't it?`
`16:05.02`	`thul`	`ferelas, yes`
`16:05.51`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, Feralas by the dock`
`16:05.57`	`Amadeo`	`out a bit from there`
`16:06.26`	`thul`	`yes`
`16:06.29`	`thul`	`i don't get it`
`16:06.35`	`thul`	`or, I get it`
`16:06.36`	`Lukian`	`Tour Guide seems to be missing one of the STV chapters`
`16:06.37`	`thul`	`but other than that`
`16:06.46`	`thul`	`the "phun" is too slow to be it`
`16:06.55`	`thul`	`it has to be more to valid the "significance" you are talking about`
`16:07.17`	`thul`	`I'm dissapointed:(`
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`16:08.00`	`Lukian`	`"2 patriots dead"`
`16:08.48`	`thul`	`:-(`
`16:08.55`	`Lukian`	`s/licks/zips/`
`16:08.57`	`thul`	`I'm not lickworthy`
`16:08.58`	`thul`	`:-(`
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`16:14.22`	`Amadeo`	`Lukian: What did I die to?`
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`16:15.09`	`CIA-9`	`03pettigrow * r60286 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: fix frFR/esES`
`16:17.01`	`CIA-9`	`03jncl * r60287 10Abakus/: Create Directory`
`16:17.35`	`kenlyric`	`hmmm`
`16:17.43`	`kenlyric`	`why did I join an AceComm chat channel?`
`16:18.32`	`vhaarr`	`kenlyric and acecomm sitting in a tree, k i s s i n g`
`16:18.40`	`Amadeo`	`I knew it!`
`16:18.50`	`Amadeo`	`He was drunk, doesn't even remember`
`16:18.56`	`vhaarr`	`poor bastard`
`16:18.58`	`kenlyric`	`I can't leave it`
`16:19.02`	`kenlyric`	`and it's default to channel 1`
`16:19.37`	`kenlyric`	`stupid blizzard, let me assign the numbers I want!`
`16:20.47`	`Amadeo`	`It's ok, kenlyric...we all make mistakes`
`16:22.29`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, and how lame is ammo anyway`
`16:22.35`	`cncfanatics`	`~nickometer [Ammo]`
`16:22.45`	`cncfanatics`	`10%; not bad`
`16:22.46`	`CIA-9`	`03pettigrow * r60288 10GatherHud/ (GatherHud.toc Locales/Locale-frFR.lua): GatherHud: frFR Update`
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`16:28.15`	`CIA-9`	`03celellach * r60289 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 3 dirs):`
`16:28.15`	`CIA-9`	`AtlasLoot:`
`16:28.15`	`CIA-9`	`- Corrected loot tables to work with the new Atlas beta`
`16:29.05`	`CIA-9`	`03pettigrow * r60290 10GatherMate_Sharing/ (GatherMate_Sharing.toc Locales/GatherMate_Sharing-frFR.lua): GatherMate_Sharing: frFR Update`
`16:29.48`	`CIA-9`	`03celellach * r60291 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:`
`16:29.48`	`CIA-9`	`AtlasLoot_RepFactions:`
`16:29.48`	`CIA-9`	`- typo fix`
`16:30.11`	`CIA-9`	`03celellach * r60292 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`16:30.11`	`CIA-9`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`16:30.11`	`CIA-9`	`- typo fix`
`16:30.44`	`Amadeo`	~nickometer a^i`SmaN
`16:30.48`	`Amadeo`	`lol`
`16:31.05`	`CIA-9`	`03next96 * r60293 10GatherMate/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`16:31.05`	`CIA-9`	`GatherMate:`
`16:31.05`	`CIA-9`	`- some locale add`
`16:31.05`	`CIA-9`	`- Update locale koKR`
`16:31.34`	a^i`SmaN	`:-(`
`16:32.06`	`Gagorian`	`I wonder what rates 100% lame`
`16:32.20`	`Gagorian`	`~nickometer [4K^wallen]`
`16:32.40`	`Recluse`	`D=`
`16:32.48`	`Zariel`	`~nickometer Zariel`
`16:33.03`	`Recluse`	`zero!`
`16:33.14`	`Megalon`	`~nickometer l��th4><0r0r`
`16:33.18`	`Zariel`	`~nickometer !st0P"2h34t3<o>`
`16:33.20`	`Megalon`	`pew pew!`
`16:33.20`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`16:33.24`	`Zariel`	`snap`
`16:33.39`	`Zariel`	`~nickometer purl`
`16:33.50`	`Megalon`	`~nickometer 1��7h4><0r0r`
`16:33.54`	`Megalon`	`that has to be 100`
`16:33.58`	`Megalon`	`:(`
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`16:34.31`	`CIA-9`	`03jncl * r60294 10Abakus/ (Abakus.lua Abakus.toc): Abakus: Initial Commit`
`16:34.44`	`Forte\|Xus`	`~nickometer Xus`
`16:34.52`	`Forte\|Xus`	`wewt`
`16:35.33`	`Megalon`	`~nickometer 1+�7\|-\|4><0r1z0r`
`16:35.42`	`Recluse`	`oh, close`
`16:35.44`	`Megalon`	`don't know how to get more ;D`
`16:36.06`	`Megalon`	`perhaps, replace the 'r' with some leetspeak`
`16:36.39`	`CIA-9`	`03jncl * r60295 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/OptionHouse.lua NPCFrames.lua):`
`16:36.39`	`CIA-9`	`Skinner: BugFix for MiddleFrames`
`16:36.39`	`CIA-9`	`- Updated OptionHouse skin`
`16:36.39`	`CIA-9`	`- Quest info moved up again`
`16:36.43`	`Megalon`	`99.9709% ;D`
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`16:42.29`	`CIA-9`	`03next96 * r60296 10GatherMate_Sharing/Locales/GatherMate_Sharing-koKR.lua:`
`16:42.29`	`CIA-9`	`GatherMate_Sharing:`
`16:42.29`	`CIA-9`	`- Add Locale koKR`
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`16:44.19`	`cncfanatics`	`~nickmeter [1337405]`
`16:44.20`	`purl`	`[1337405] is 100% lame with a cherry on top!`
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`16:44.34`	`cncfanatics`	`who asked 100% ? :p`
`16:44.43`	`Fisker-`	`you fail`
`16:44.46`	`Fisker-`	`~nickmeter cncfanatics`
`16:44.47`	`purl`	`cncfanatics is 100% lame with a cherry on top!`
`16:44.58`	`Fisker-`	`~nickometer Fisker-`
`16:44.59`	`cncfanatics`	`Fisker-: thats so fake`
`16:45.05`	`cncfanatics`	`~nickometer cncfanatics`
`16:45.10`	`cncfanatics`	`:D`
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`16:45.28`	Funkeh`	~nickometer Funkeh`
`16:45.36`	Funkeh`	`looks randomized`
`16:45.52`	`cncfanatics`	`no`
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`16:47.56`	`CIA-9`	`NRT:`
`16:47.56`	`CIA-9`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`16:52.12`	`Chompers`	`~nickometer Chompers`
`16:52.17`	`Chompers`	`sweet`
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`16:56.05`	`CIA-9`	`03cronan * r60298 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:`
`16:56.05`	`CIA-9`	`ItemBonusLib:`
`16:56.05`	`CIA-9`	`- koKR Update (Expertise)`
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`16:57.11`	`CIA-9`	`03next96 * r60299 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua:`
`16:57.11`	`CIA-9`	`Skillet:`
`16:57.11`	`CIA-9`	`- Update locale koKR`
`16:58.38`	`CIA-9`	`03funkydude 07Ace3 * r60300 10BasicMinimap/ (BasicMinimap.lua BasicMinimap.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): BasicMinimap: setup externals`
`17:00.05`	`CIA-9`	`03funkydude * r60301 10BasicMinimap/: BasicMinimap: copy to trunk`
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`17:00.51`	`CIA-9`	`03funkydude * r60302 10/branches/BasicMinimap/: BasicMinimap: removed, see trunk`
`17:02.04`	`kadrahil`	`http://ace.pastey.net/81764`
`17:02.28`	`kadrahil`	`ckknight_: ^ might be of concern to you, not sure`
`17:03.49`	`kadrahil`	`ckknight_: just did an update to all my addons and it seems to have stopped :/`
`17:04.23`	`ckknight_`	`that's ThreatLib`
`17:04.43`	`kadrahil`	`yeah, i forgot who was the maintainer of that`
`17:04.49`	`CIA-9`	`03funkydude * r60303 10/branches/BasicBuffs/ (BasicBuffs.lua BasicBuffs.toc Libs/): BasicBuffs: fix externals`
`17:05.42`	`CIA-9`	`03funkydude * r60304 10BasicBuffs/: BasicBuffs: copy to trunk`
`17:06.05`	`CIA-9`	`03funkydude * r60305 10/branches/BasicBuffs/: BasicBuffs: removed, see trunk`
`17:06.23`	`CIA-9`	`03moonwitch * r60306 10KC_Items/modules/KC_Fence/Fence_AutoFill.lua: KC_Items: updated Fence_AutoFill.lua to work with the 48hrs auctions now.`
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`17:26.57`	`[SW]Dodg1`	`lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co3QGEXCcC4&feature=related`
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`17:28.37`	`Paradox`	`what is wrong with WAU recently`
`17:28.39`	`Paradox`	`it's so slow`
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`17:43.18`	`genetik`	`Paradox: i've noticed that too, when loading the index`
`17:43.48`	`genetik`	`probably just a biproduct of there being more addons in trunk`
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`17:51.15`	`deadair`	`is there an addon that when a buff of your own is removed, it readds it back on automatically?`
`17:51.23`	`[Ammo]`	`not possible`
`17:51.37`	`deadair`	`oh`
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`17:52.13`	`Hjalte`	`deadair: You could try SimpleSeæfRebuff`
`17:52.14`	`Hjalte`	`eh`
`17:52.19`	`Hjalte`	`SimpleSelfRebuff*`
`17:52.47`	`kneeki`	`sigh`
`17:53.01`	`kneeki`	`I wish AV was a bit more equal terrain =\`
`17:53.28`	`Hjalte`	`kneeki: Horde or alliance?`
`17:53.28`	`kneeki`	`Lost 8 out of 9 games today simply because it's easier to infiltrate the horde base. cry`
`17:53.36`	`kneeki`	`I play horde`
`17:54.12`	`Hjalte`	`Hmm, yes, horde loses most games in AV but seems to beat the crap out of us in most other bg's. So something is wrong with the AV map.`
`17:54.24`	`kneeki`	`lol`
`17:54.42`	`kneeki`	`gj at sarcasm =P`
`17:55.04`	`CIA-9`	`03next96 * r60308 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua:`
`17:55.04`	`CIA-9`	`RatingBuster:`
`17:55.04`	`CIA-9`	`- Update locale koKR`
`17:56.19`	`Amadeo`	`Just installed the addon Enhancer off files, get the error: Cannot find a library instance of AceHook-2.1.`
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`18:03.43`	`CIA-9`	`03rabbit * r60309 10NRT/NRT.lua:`
`18:03.43`	`CIA-9`	`NRT:`
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`18:03.46`	`Killmore`	`we guys are not on my battlegroup.. we lost easily 99% of all AV`
`18:04.35`	`Killmore`	`and the reason alliance noob give ? terrain imbalance`
`18:05.13`	`Ozguli`	`wtf?`
`18:06.00`	`Ozguli`	`alliance has imba terrain`
`18:06.01`	`Killmore`	`QQ horde alliance win because the terrain is not even, QQ QQ`
`18:06.22`	`Ozguli`	`horde has it really hard`
`18:06.35`	`Killmore`	`and right now, horde have 1h30 queue to enter AV`
`18:06.37`	`Ozguli`	`they can't even stealth ninja their mine`
`18:06.49`	`Killmore`	`on alliance side I have max 1min av queue`
`18:06.53`	`Cheads`	`I dont think the terrain has anything to do with the general AV matches.. just horde players generally being better(less pathetic players and rep-leechers)`
`18:08.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, that is way much more likely ;D`
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`18:09.44`	`Amadeo`	`It's kinda silly to say Horde has better players, or the opposite`
`18:09.45`	`Killmore`	`my AV is crazy since 1 month, 50% of the alliance stay in her base and QQ about blizzard and why we always lose`
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`18:10.29`	`Amadeo`	`The big problem I see with the AV map is that Horde practically start in the middle`
`18:10.33`	`Zariel`	`can you change the order of buffs? BuffButton1 = BuffButton2 ?`
`18:10.34`	`Amadeo`	`everything else I don't care much about`
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`18:12.18`	`Killmore`	`oh, and the first thing you can read on my AV is "dont kill galv, NEVER kill galv, its a pure waste of time"`
`18:13.20`	`NeoTron`	`the main reson teams lose in AV is because of bad teamplay`
`18:13.25`	`NeoTron`	`everything else are excuses`
`18:13.30`	`NeoTron`	`esp defense is usually lacking`
`18:13.30`	`Killmore`	`true :(`
`18:13.53`	`Killmore`	`they cap a tower/GY and they just leave it`
`18:13.58`	`NeoTron`	`I've happened into mostly pre-made AV's and with good leadership and ppl that do what they are supposed to do, it's a pretty easy thing to win`
`18:14.04`	`Aeyan`	`The Alliance in my battlegroup are boycotting AV, hehe`
`18:14.08`	`Aeyan`	`It's pretty sad`
`18:14.19`	`Killmore`	`Aeyan: same on mine`
`18:14.26`	`NeoTron`	`actually managed to get a 5-cap AB with a put against a premade (or rather, semi-premade - like 2/3rds of it)`
`18:14.27`	`Killmore`	`stormstrike ?`
`18:14.28`	`Aeyan`	`Shadowburn?`
`18:14.30`	`Zariel`	`we win 75% of the time, ally :D`
`18:14.43`	`NeoTron`	`because people actually did what they should do - cap and then defend etc`
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`18:15.03`	`Killmore`	`because alliance boycot AV, horde get 1h30min to 2hours queue :P`
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`18:15.50`	`kneeki`	`Hmm, can I create a table within a table?`
`18:16.02`	`kneeki`	`or array within an array =P`
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`18:17.26`	`Josh_Borke`	`kneeki: yes`
`18:17.43`	`kneeki`	`Can you give me an example?`
`18:18.06`	`Josh_Borke`	`lua> local t = { {'first'}, {'second'}}; for k, v in pairs(t) do if type(v) == "table" then for k, v in pairs(v) do print(v) end end end`
`18:18.06`	`lua_bot`	`Josh_Borke: first, second`
`18:18.11`	`kneeki`	`Like, Table = { TableWithin = { stuff here }; AnotherTableWithin = { stuff here } } ?`
`18:18.36`	`NeoTron`	`"Caverns of Time - New teleportation portal to the Caverns of Time accessible through reputation with Keepers of Time"`
`18:19.14`	`chiper`	`neo: link?`
`18:19.36`	`Twist-`	`heh`
`18:19.41`	`Twist-`	`I guess I can drop engineering now`
`18:19.43`	`NeoTron`	`WoW "under construction" page`
`18:19.46`	`NeoTron`	`the official one`
`18:19.52`	`NeoTron`	`also this from a blue post: "The first change will be to move the Horde's starting tunnel back to a more equal distance from the first objectives, which will help evenly distance the starting points for each side across the terrain when the battle commences."`
`18:20.01`	`chiper`	`thats not a link, that's a general direction`
`18:20.13`	`chiper`	`you might as well have said "Over there`
`18:20.38`	`Zariel`	`Also Balinda Stonehearth has been studying her spellbooks to become a more challenging opponent to the Horde and will do more damage with her spells.`
`18:20.39`	`Zariel`	`:D`
`18:20.47`	`NeoTron`	`go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and click on the 'under construction' link in the left sidebar`
`18:20.50`	`NeoTron`	`don't be lazy`
`18:21.13`	`NeoTron`	`or for the really lazy => http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/`
`18:21.16`	`chiper`	`see, now that's a better direction.`
`18:21.21`	`Ellipsis`	`http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20080204.jpg`
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`18:21.51`	`chiper`	`spiffy, wonder what rep level you have to be`
`18:22.14`	`Megalon`	`chiper: friendly? ;/`
`18:22.47`	`Pkekyo\|`	`as a mage, what tailoring specialization should I chose?`
`18:22.47`	`chiper`	`I hope`
`18:22.47`	`chiper`	`exalted would be kinda silly`
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`18:23.19`	`chiper`	`it'll be nice to have a way to get to that end of the continent, tho it'd be nice if you could get it at 50, when you're actually questing in that area`
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`18:26.04`	`NeoTron`	`chiper: free teleport from stormwind ftw`
`18:26.17`	`NeoTron`	`theramore might not be quite as handy but at least it avoids the boat`
`18:26.29`	`chiper`	`eh?`
`18:26.52`	`chiper`	`are you talking about the hearth trick?`
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`18:28.09`	`Twist-`	`chiper: back in the day, I always hearthed in GZ`
`18:28.26`	`chiper`	`twist: my mage is, but that doesnt help my shammy :/`
`18:28.27`	`Twist-`	`then I picked up engineering for repair bots`
`18:28.37`	`Twist-`	`and got my teleporters`
`18:28.57`	`chiper`	`and my hunter is goblin engineering, so no gz for me`
`18:29.27`	`Twist-`	`hooboy.. 25 quest cap for dailies`
`18:29.34`	`Twist-`	`you thought inflation was bad now`
`18:30.02`	`chiper`	`dailies, meh`
`18:30.03`	`Osstia`	`how many people do 10 dailies now?`
`18:30.20`	`chiper`	`I dont even do one, I'm always busy with other stuff`
`18:30.20`	`Twist-`	`There are guys in my guild that do 10 dailies on multiple toons. daily.`
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`18:30.32`	`omeow`	`Hi there.`
`18:30.34`	`durcyn`	`i two-boxed 10 dailies for several months.. then i had to stop or i would've jumped off a building.`
`18:30.36`	`Hjalte`	`Pkekyo\|: Choose tailoring spec after your own talent spec.`
`18:30.37`	`Ellipsis`	`I do 10 (when I play)`
`18:31.14`	`chiper`	`twist: I'm guessing those guys dont have fulltime jobs?`
`18:31.15`	`Osstia`	`I do 4 or 5 on 3 toons`
`18:31.23`	`Osstia`	`but not every day`
`18:31.50`	`Amadeo`	`oh, I totally missed the new AV changes announced`
`18:32.17`	`omeow`	`My WowAceUpdater (net-1.9.45.718) stopped working for reasons unknown to me. It no longer shows me the list of updates. Instead it just sits there saying: "Auto-retry of addon list load" and in the status bar it says: "Using cached list of addons..."`
`18:32.20`	`Amadeo`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311227692&sid=1`
`18:32.28`	`omeow`	`Does this problem sound familiar to any of you?`
`18:32.29`	`Twist-`	`chiper: No.. no they don't.`
`18:33.56`	`*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://files.wowace.com/ \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org \| Ace3 in beta \| WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 \| wowace.com is experiencing some server problems, stay tuned for updates.`
`18:34.17`	`Amadeo`	`vhaarr repairs my weapons and keeps me up to date...what more can you ask for?`
`18:34.33`	`vhaarr`	`beer`
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`18:34.51`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
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`18:35.32`	`omeow`	`huh..`
`18:35.46`	`omeow`	`After 10 minutes of sitting there it suddenly presents me with the list of addons.`
`18:36.11`	`vhaarr`	`because the servers are slow at the moment`
`18:36.21`	`omeow`	`Doesn't it keep a local list?`
`18:36.37`	`omeow`	`Or does it have to connect to servers on program launch?`
`18:36.51`	`vhaarr`	`You just said so yourself, "Using cached list of addons...", how can you not understand that?`
`18:37.04`	`silentium`	`WAU caches a local copy, but it reloads before it actually downloads updated addons`
`18:37.05`	`vhaarr`	`First it tries to connect, and if it can't, it uses the cached list.`
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`18:37.30`	`omeow`	`I didn't understand what the term caching meant.`
`18:37.51`	`omeow`	`(I'm not native to the English language.)`
`18:38.30`	`vhaarr`	`omeow: Anyway, the servers are slow at the moment, you'll just have to wait.`
`18:38.50`	`omeow`	`It's fine. I'm glad I have a list I can view again. =)`
`18:39.08`	`Amadeo`	`ca-ching!`
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`18:51.14`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60310 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Commit code that shades a region. Not 100% working yet.`
`18:52.55`	`Osstia`	`Xinhuan: did you decide to try to make the "no fly zone" type approach owrk?`
`18:52.59`	`Osstia`	`work`
`18:53.18`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4b.jpg`
`18:53.27`	`Xinhuan`	`clearly not shading the region 100% yet`
`18:53.36`	`Xinhuan`	`but good enough for now`
`18:53.57`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't think your taboo zones are going to be THAT complex`
`18:54.19`	`Xinhuan`	`it'll be at most a 3 to 10 sided polygon`
`18:54.25`	`Xinhuan`	`rather than a 195 node beast`
`18:54.36`	`Osstia`	`how do you create the shaded zone? Are you loading that from data? Or allowing the user to draw it?`
`18:55.26`	`Xinhuan`	`i hardcoded a route and shaded it`
`18:55.40`	`Xinhuan`	`grum's doing the frontend for making the taboo region`
`18:55.50`	`Killmore`	`Xinhuan: whats wrong with your IF map ?!`
`18:56.06`	`Xinhuan`	`a taboo region is really just a mini route i have to draw on the map lol`
`18:56.13`	`Xinhuan`	`and then shade the inside`
`18:56.37`	`Osstia`	`and then your route will not intersect the shaded region right?`
`18:57.07`	`Xinhuan`	`the route WILL intersect the shaded region`
`18:57.30`	`Xinhuan`	`i can't gaurantee the user doesn't create taboo regions that split the map into impassable halves`
`18:57.54`	`Osstia`	`I do remember you talking about that possibility`
`18:57.57`	`Xinhuan`	`for now, the taboo regions are just to ignore nodes inside it`
`18:58.11`	`Osstia`	`oh, that make sense`
`18:58.43`	`Shadowed`	`Xinhuan: ooo`
`18:58.51`	`Shadowed`	`is that the thing to let you ignore coords from certain areas?`
`18:58.57`	`Xinhuan`	`soonish`
`18:59.05`	`Xinhuan`	`i just merely created a super complex region`
`18:59.08`	`Xinhuan`	`to ignore`
`18:59.21`	`Xinhuan`	`i.e i drew one of my routes heh`
`18:59.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`haha, overheardinnewyork wins.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/013443.html`
`18:59.55`	`CIA-9`	`03kurax * r60311 10nQuestLog/ (11 files in 11 dirs): nQuestLog: zhCN locales updated`
`19:00.34`	`Xinhuan`	`in practice, your taboo regions will be far less complex`
`19:00.37`	`Xinhuan`	`and`
`19:00.46`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4c.jpg`
`19:00.53`	`Xinhuan`	`regions like that will be easier to "shade"`
`19:01.12`	`Xinhuan`	`at least, without silly math 0.00000000001 errors when i try to find intersection points`
`19:01.23`	`Josh_Borke`	`o.O wtf is that?`
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`19:01.33`	`Xinhuan`	`it is a polygon Josh_Borke`
`19:01.37`	`Xinhuan`	`and i decided to shade the inside`
`19:01.48`	`Dakylla`	`hi there`
`19:01.56`	`Josh_Borke`	`no, wtf is the purpose of that?`
`19:01.58`	`Ellipsis`	`^`
`19:02.05`	`Amadeo`	`lol, I loved the Chester Pitts commercial during the Superbowl`
`19:02.09`	`Xinhuan`	`the purpose is to allow the user to specify regions in Routes`
`19:02.14`	`Xinhuan`	`where you don't want nodes`
`19:02.31`	`Xinhuan`	`so you mark a region, say Netherwing Ledge in SMV`
`19:02.33`	`Xinhuan`	`as taboo`
`19:02.40`	`Xinhuan`	`and no route will contain nodes in that region`
`19:02.54`	`Xinhuan`	`and i'll even try to make sure routes don't fly thru taboo regions (no gaurantees on this one)`
`19:03.13`	`NeoTron`	`would make it more useful for land-based gathering`
`19:03.20`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
`19:03.21`	`Sais`	`ooh - I was hoping someone would do something like that.`
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`19:03.29`	`Xinhuan`	`because i still only consider straight line distances`
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`19:03.34`	`Xinhuan`	`if you're stupid and split the map in 2 halves with a taboo region`
`19:03.41`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm like just gonna ignore your region`
`19:03.44`	`Xinhuan`	`and fly thru it anyway`
`19:04.12`	`Xinhuan`	`i.e i can bias routes not to fly thru them`
`19:04.22`	`Xinhuan`	`but cannot eliminate not flying thru them`
`19:04.34`	`NeoTron`	`just like you can't add waypoint support etc? ;-0`
`19:04.50`	`NeoTron`	`I'm sorry but I don't believe you when you say you "can't" do things :P`
`19:04.53`	`Xinhuan`	`well these things need time to implement :0`
`19:05.06`	`NeoTron`	`it simply means they will be added... later :)`
`19:05.18`	`Xinhuan`	`but i can tell you, i can't make you a one button addon that when pressed, decurses everyone in your raid without yu having to target them :)`
`19:05.29`	`Josh_Borke`	`NeoTron: things get done faster when you supply patches ;-)`
`19:05.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Xinhuan: LIES. like NeoTron says, you just WONT, YET. :P`
`19:05.58`	`Xinhuan`	`anyway, the plan is to be able to make taboo regions`
`19:06.05`	`Xinhuan`	`and then attach these regions to any of your routes`
`19:06.24`	`Xinhuan`	`i'll probably even include some default taboo regions`
`19:06.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Xinhuan: could you do the reverse as well? define a region and then make a route that only goes WITHIN said region?`
`19:06.28`	`Xinhuan`	`like some caves`
`19:06.36`	`Xinhuan`	`not gonna attempt it`
`19:06.49`	`Xinhuan`	`not worth the effort`
`19:07.07`	`NeoTron`	`Josh_Borke: I am afraid that particular problem is not one within my level of expertise... But I do supply patches, like the rank-based invite to oRA2`
`19:07.10`	`Xinhuan`	`the idea is, applying a taboo region will remove nodes if there's nodes inside that polygon`
`19:07.21`	`Xinhuan`	`and prevent new ones from being added in there`
`19:07.40`	`Xinhuan`	`i need to create some generic functions`
`19:08.05`	`Xinhuan`	`for calculating intersection points, and whether a point is inside or outside`
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`19:10.43`	`Josh_Borke`	`oh yea, is T6 token based or actual gear?`
`19:10.50`	`Xinhuan`	`token`
`19:10.55`	`Josh_Borke`	`that's what i thought`
`19:10.57`	`NeoTron`	`bad tokens`
`19:10.57`	`Xinhuan`	`just like t4/t5`
`19:11.02`	`Xinhuan`	`but with different classes`
`19:11.03`	`NeoTron`	`priest/paladin/warlock token`
`19:11.06`	`Xinhuan`	`in each grp of 3`
`19:11.06`	`NeoTron`	`hello 50% of the raid`
`19:11.16`	`Josh_Borke`	`lol neotron`
`19:11.22`	`Josh_Borke`	`thanks`
`19:11.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: o_0 what kind of messed up raid are YOU in :P`
`19:11.24`	`Xinhuan`	`we haven't had t6 mage/druid/rogue gloves drop for 2 months (8 weeks)`
`19:11.54`	`NeoTron`	`NightHawkTheSane: 3-4 holy priests, 1-2 shadow priests, 2-4 paladins (2 holy, 1 ret, 1 prot), 3-5 warlocks`
`19:12.11`	`Lukian`	`TourGuide is win!`
`19:12.11`	`NeoTron`	`I did stats on raid compositions based on DKP awarded`
`19:12.17`	`Killmore`	`1 ret !`
`19:12.29`	`NeoTron`	`and it comes out to pretty much 50% on average from those 3 classes`
`19:12.59`	`NeoTron`	`Killmore: yes`
`19:13.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yea, we have a ret pally too.`
`19:13.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'm... not sure why >.>`
`19:13.42`	`NeoTron`	`good ret pally = good raid asset`
`19:13.50`	`dodga`	`Xinhuan: Our resto Druids got their feral and moonkin gloves already..`
`19:14.14`	`dodga`	`Priest doesn't drop ffs.. today Azgalor dropped Warrior/Shammy twice`
`19:14.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`we run with a ret pally sometimes, usually run with a moonkin and enchance shaman`
`19:14.46`	`Xinhuan`	`our shamans have all 3 sets of gloves`
`19:14.52`	`Xinhuan`	`and that's all 4 or 5 of them`
`19:15.06`	`NeoTron`	`we have 2 ele shammy, 1 enhance, 1 ret pally, 1 moonkin`
`19:15.25`	`NeoTron`	`ret pally + ele shammy + moonkin + locks => ISB love`
`19:15.55`	`sb`	`meh`
`19:15.58`	`sb`	`illidan tries`
`19:16.00`	`sb`	`sigh :)`
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`19:17.15`	`Tifi`	`how do i undo what setenv(f,t) does?`
`19:17.19`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what tailoring specc should I chose for my mage?`
`19:17.23`	`Tifi`	`setfenv*`
`19:18.28`	`xyu`	`Anyone know the console command for setting the max scrollout distance to 4 or whatever?`
`19:18.33`	`xyu`	`it makes it so you can scroll way out.`
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`19:21.16`	`NeoTron`	`Pkekyo\|: that would... depend on how you plan to spec your mage`
`19:21.38`	`Tifi`	`xyu, http://www.wowwiki.com/Config.wtf_defaults`
`19:23.08`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NeoTron: no idea tbh...as of now I'm frost, but I intend to raid, so...meh`
`19:25.02`	`otravi`	`np: The Dillinger Escape Plan - Panasonic Youth [Miss Machine] (2:27\|flac)`
`19:25.09`	`otravi`	`damn it`
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`19:27.13`	`NeoTron`	`frost is likely not the way to go`
`19:27.30`	`NeoTron`	`fire or arcane... so yeah, make spellfire gear`
`19:27.36`	`NeoTron`	`and spec spellcloth`
`19:29.17`	`Twist-`	`it won't really matter midway into t5`
`19:29.50`	`Twist-`	`the spellfire gear has t5 equivalent spell power, but it doesn't have the base stats you're going to need.`
`19:30.46`	`Twist-`	`so you wind up either slowly coming up to par with spellfire's damage as you fill out with t4 gear, or you start at that level of damage and die whenever a boss sneezes in your direction`
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`19:32.31`	`CIA-9`	`03zariel * r60312 10Vengance/ (Vengance.toc crit.lua):`
`19:32.31`	`CIA-9`	`Vengance:`
`19:32.31`	`CIA-9`	`- Added dot tracking`
`19:32.31`	`CIA-9`	`- Updated toc`
`19:36.31`	`CIA-9`	`03zariel * r60313 10fBuff/ (. fBuff.lua fBuff.toc):`
`19:36.31`	`CIA-9`	`fBuff:`
`19:36.31`	`CIA-9`	`- Moves quest tracker to right of minimap`
`19:36.31`	`CIA-9`	`- Fades buffs out`
`19:36.31`	`CIA-9`	`- Moves buffs to edge of screen`
`19:36.43`	`Zariel`	`bolocks wrong svn`
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`19:38.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`well`
`19:38.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`great`
`19:38.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`our second kael'thas kill "in the works", and he bugs out at 50%`
`19:39.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`stuck in his transition animation`
`19:39.10`	`RaydenUni`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.11`	`CIA-9`	`03zariel * r60314 10fBuff/:`
`19:39.11`	`CIA-9`	`fBuff:`
`19:39.11`	`CIA-9`	`- Wrong svn`
`19:39.12`	`RaydenUni`	`wtf is up with that`
`19:39.15`	`RaydenUni`	`i certainly am in a guild`
`19:39.29`	`chiper`	`rayden: it did that to me once too, scared the hell out of me`
`19:39.32`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah`
`19:39.35`	`chiper`	`but it was on a /logout`
`19:39.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`same`
`19:39.37`	`RaydenUni`	`i immediately logged back in last time`
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`19:39.43`	`RaydenUni`	`still in my guild`
`19:39.51`	`RaydenUni`	`is that generic wow telling me that then?`
`19:39.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`19:40.03`	`RaydenUni`	`messed up`
`19:40.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`from SendAddonMessage() probably`
`19:40.27`	`RaydenUni`	`i love the "something didn't work because of an addon"`
`19:40.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`or a guildroster update request`
`19:40.30`	`RaydenUni`	`oh so useful`
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`19:40.41`	`RaydenUni`	`has only happened when i've typed /quit`
`19:40.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, happens almost every time for me`
`19:40.56`	`chiper`	`ah, so some addon is requesting info after the server has already parsed the logout`
`19:40.57`	`RaydenUni`	`only twice so far for me`
`19:43.25`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz: heh we had him in his 50% transition mode shoting pyroblasts (but being untargetable_`
`19:43.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`that's when he's got HoTs from MCd people`
`19:43.49`	`*** join/#wowace Byrdee (n=Byrdee@208.53.56.35)`
`19:43.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`and heals himself over the threshold again`
`19:44.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`our's is just sitting there :<`
`19:44.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`it sucks when our druids get MCd`
`19:44.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`we had him jump like 10% instantly once from a druid`
`19:45.00`	`Fisker-`	`who had sex with pt3bar ?`
`19:45.20`	`Busko`	`hey anyone killed illidan here ?`
`19:45.26`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`19:45.32`	`Busko`	`would need some help with p2`
`19:45.38`	`Busko`	`about tanking the elementals`
`19:45.51`	`Busko`	`is it 40 yards to swords or the flames`
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`19:46.48`	`NeoTron`	`the swords has an aura effect`
`19:46.51`	`NeoTron`	`like a windfury totem`
`19:47.15`	`NeoTron`	`so it's all about positioning relative to the sword`
`19:47.38`	`Busko`	`ok so he cant be futher way 40 yards of his own sword or both swords`
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`19:48.02`	`NeoTron`	`it's a buff on the members of the raid`
`19:48.26`	`NeoTron`	`if a tank moves his too far away he loses the buff from the sword he's near but he might still have the buff from the other sword if that makes sense`
`19:49.15`	`NeoTron`	`essentially don't run too far away from your elementals sword`
`19:49.19`	`NeoTron`	`and you'll be fine`
`19:49.20`	`xyu`	`Anyone know if pitbull layout exports also save the unitbars' screen location as well?`
`19:49.40`	`Busko`	`yea we just haveing problems one of the tanks moviening out`
`19:50.02`	`NeoTron`	`phase2 really is the hardest part of the fight o learn IMHO`
`19:50.26`	`NeoTron`	`especially since a lot of information about it is incorrect`
`19:51.08`	`Busko`	`ok giveing a new try ^^`
`19:51.30`	`xyu`	`well not that its incorrect per se, i just think that a lot of guilds do it different`
`19:51.37`	`xyu`	`in order to suit their needs`
`19:52.00`	`NeoTron`	`xyu: nah a lot of it is incorrect`
`19:52.41`	`NeoTron`	`basically a lot of info doesn't get the "aura" mechanic correctly and completely ignores the one key fact - distance to swords = only thnig that matters`
`19:53.36`	`NeoTron`	`like bosskillers.com for example`
`19:53.47`	`NeoTron`	`"The Flames themselves will charge any raid member that is too far away from them, a range of approximately 30-40 yards."`
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`19:57.01`	`NeoTron`	`Ashes of Al'ar should be legendary`
`19:57.42`	`Busko`	`hmm`
`19:57.43`	`Busko`	`ok`
`19:58.11`	`sb`	`NeoTron: yup - but distance to BOTH swords`
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`19:59.41`	`Busko`	`well im guessing one sword or the 40 yard would be very small`
`20:00.05`	`Lukian`	`LUNAR FESTIVAL!`
`20:00.50`	`NeoTron`	`sb: not sure what you mean`
`20:00.59`	`NeoTron`	`you need to be close to either sword, not both`
`20:01.10`	`sb`	`yes you do`
`20:01.17`	`sb`	`killed us 5 minutes ago :p`
`20:01.19`	`NeoTron`	`however if you transition between >40yrd or so of sword 1, you need to wait fora bit to get the aura from sword 2`
`20:01.27`	`sb`	`because tank was too far away from 2nd sword`
`20:01.39`	`NeoTron`	`wrong I'm afraid :P`
`20:01.44`	`NeoTron`	`invisible buff`
`20:01.46`	`Busko`	`but then NeoTron is it like 2 rings around swords ?`
`20:01.57`	`NeoTron`	`you need that invisible buff on you`
`20:02.02`	`NeoTron`	`from either sword but not both`
`20:02.07`	`Busko`	`meaning that the range at the top and bottom is the shortest`
`20:02.10`	`NeoTron`	`there's no way for a tank to be in range of both swords`
`20:02.22`	`NeoTron`	`sec`
`20:02.32`	`*** part/#wowace Byrdee (n=Byrdee@208.53.56.35)`
`20:04.31`	`NeoTron`	`http://adrenaline.eongames.com/ulimg/6_flames_1.jpg`
`20:04.42`	`NeoTron`	`from http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t15397-illidan_thread_flames_azzinoth_question/`
`20:05.11`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.stage6.com/user/opply/video/1917205/Safe-vs-Illidan-Stormrage for a video that helped our tanks`
`20:06.48`	`Busko`	`cool thanx will check`
`20:07.18`	`NeoTron`	`being an invisible buff is the tricky part - it's not just being in range, it's being in range after the buff pulsed`
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`20:15.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`damnit, some piece of shit t5 warrior just joined mah guild :<`
`20:16.17`	`Busko`	`NeoTron thanx for the pic`
`20:16.25`	`Busko`	`now they idiots finaly understand :P`
`20:20.14`	`NeoTron`	`:)`
`20:20.25`	`NeoTron`	`Pkekyo\|: is that bad?`
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`20:20.44`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NeoTron: aye, bastard's gonna have me left without a job`
`20:20.49`	`NeoTron`	`also the pulsing method of the buff means - don't combat res during phase 2!`
`20:20.50`	`Zariel`	`fuck me levelign a priest without a wand is fall`
`20:21.15`	`NeoTron`	`and it is the source of the now fixed issues of totems pulling aggro and enraging the flames`
`20:21.24`	`NeoTron`	`since they lacked the buff when placed`
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`20:22.19`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60315 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: updated mockup`
`20:30.26`	`RaydenUni`	`Zariel yes it is`
`20:30.30`	`RaydenUni`	`did you also not take spirit tap?`
`20:30.35`	`Zariel`	`ye`
`20:30.37`	`Zariel`	`1 point xD`
`20:30.40`	`RaydenUni`	`5 points go now`
`20:30.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`~fail Zarhan`
`20:30.45`	`purl`	`Zarhan: Fail.`
`20:30.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... dammit!`
`20:30.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:(`
`20:30.52`	`RaydenUni`	`fail NightHawkTheSane`
`20:30.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`~fail NightHawkTheSane`
`20:30.55`	`purl`	`NightHawkTheSane: Fail.`
`20:31.22`	`RaydenUni`	`put 5 into spirit tap and 5 into wand spec`
`20:31.33`	`Industrial`	`until 30s`
`20:31.49`	`Industrial`	`then I just go mind flay :P`
`20:31.50`	`RaydenUni`	`every battle goes like this: mind blast, swp, mind flay x2, wand until dead`
`20:32.16`	`RaydenUni`	`+/- 1 mind flay depending on speed of th emob`
`20:32.18`	`Industrial`	`you can do just shield swp wand shield mostly 1-30`
`20:32.24`	`Industrial`	`and never go oom`
`20:32.27`	`Industrial`	`ever.`
`20:32.28`	`RaydenUni`	`do you still have enough mana at that level?`
`20:32.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, really, only your first 30-40 battles go like that. after that, they go more like "mind blast, swp, flay, flay, /wrist, /wrist, die, reroll"`
`20:32.35`	`RaydenUni`	`i know later on the shield costs too much`
`20:32.44`	`RaydenUni`	`huh?`
`20:32.47`	`Industrial`	`yeah you regen more then it costs`
`20:32.52`	`RaydenUni`	`it's been so long since i was 30-40`
`20:33.17`	`Zariel`	`level 10 :(`
`20:33.23`	`RaydenUni`	`once i got VT then i go VT, SWP, VE, MF, wand`
`20:33.24`	`Industrial`	`one thing I miss about priest is that I never had anything to indicate howmany hits my shield could take`
`20:33.27`	`Industrial`	`:P`
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`20:33.42`	`RaydenUni`	`Industrial just remember it's one hit from a mage or a rogue at lvl 70 :D`
`20:33.46`	`Industrial`	`haha`
`20:33.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Industrial: the answer is always "much less than you really need it to"`
`20:33.51`	`NeoTron`	`Industrial: at l70 it's easy: 1 hit`
`20:34.14`	`RaydenUni`	`sub 60 it doesn't really run out in normal battle`
`20:34.28`	`RaydenUni`	`also remember to shield the warrior before every pull when doing a dungeon :D`
`20:34.39`	`RaydenUni`	`he'll love you`
`20:34.57`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4.jpg`
`20:35.00`	`Xinhuan`	`algorithm fixed.`
`20:35.02`	`Xinhuan`	`perfect shading now`
`20:35.04`	`Industrial`	`doesnt that negate possible threat from the mob hitting the tank/`
`20:35.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I once wrote a quick addon to auto-remove pw:s on my warrior`
`20:35.15`	`RaydenUni`	`it gives you threat and he gets no rage`
`20:35.18`	`RaydenUni`	`so its a really bad idea`
`20:35.32`	`Zariel`	`xinhuan, lol`
`20:35.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, if you cast it before he pulls, the threat's a non issue`
`20:35.34`	`RaydenUni`	`what is that Xinhuan ?`
`20:35.48`	`RaydenUni`	`true`
`20:35.50`	`Xinhuan`	`just a function i wrote, to shade the inside of a polygon`
`20:35.51`	`RaydenUni`	`he still gets no rage though`
`20:35.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
`20:36.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hell, i hate it on my druid, even`
`20:36.07`	`EvilJohn-`	`yeah, warriors just LOVE that`
`20:36.09`	`RaydenUni`	`druids use rage as well`
`20:36.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`druids generate a LOT more rage than warriors, though`
`20:36.32`	`RaydenUni`	`just from attacking it wouldn't be enough`
`20:36.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`depends`
`20:36.54`	`RaydenUni`	`you may be right`
`20:36.59`	`RaydenUni`	`i haven't tanked enough on my 46 druid`
`20:37.15`	`RaydenUni`	`bah, i need to go get the ZF mallet`
`20:37.16`	`vithos`	`Xinhuan: that's just an arbitrary area you drew right? looks nice though`
`20:37.22`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`20:37.27`	`Xinhuan`	`i actually took an existing route`
`20:37.38`	`Xinhuan`	`rather tha generate some random polygon`
`20:37.42`	`Xinhuan`	`than*`
`20:37.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`between furor/enrage, i can start a pull at >30 rage, plus whatever the first white hit gives me`
`20:37.58`	`RaydenUni`	`Xinhuan i'll see your polygonal shading and bid one reflective shaded ray-traced sphere! http://darkwindmedia.com/CGII/CPP/images/part05/render_2008_01_30_232851.png`
`20:38.04`	`RaydenUni`	`or 5 spheres`
`20:38.07`	`RaydenUni`	`as the case may be`
`20:38.09`	`Xinhuan`	`pfft`
`20:38.16`	`Xinhuan`	`are you doubting that i can't do ray tracing?`
`20:38.17`	`Xinhuan`	`cos i can`
`20:38.25`	`RaydenUni`	`ray tracing is pretty easy`
`20:38.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Xinhuan: no ray tracing in routes, dammit! :P`
`20:38.29`	`RaydenUni`	`although we are having trouble`
`20:38.30`	`vithos`	`please no. not like this.`
`20:38.34`	`Xinhuan`	`it'll just take forever in routes :D`
`20:38.36`	`RaydenUni`	`http://darkwindmedia.com/CGII/CPP/step5.html`
`20:38.44`	`RaydenUni`	`the polygon screws up our reflections`
`20:38.46`	`RaydenUni`	`no idea why`
`20:38.54`	`RaydenUni`	`and it's orientation affects where the reflections work`
`20:39.09`	`RaydenUni`	`really odd`
`20:39.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`holy fuck`
`20:39.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/28/intels-newest-gaming-platform-skulltrail/`
`20:39.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`WANT`
`20:39.51`	`EvilJohn-`	`good review on hardocp.com`
`20:40.03`	`EvilJohn-`	`seens rather pointless to me`
`20:40.09`	`EvilJohn-`	`http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ1OCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==`
`20:40.18`	`RaydenUni`	`duel quad cores`
`20:40.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`my jaw droped when i saw four pcie 16x slots`
`20:40.24`	`RaydenUni`	`definitely do want`
`20:40.34`	`RaydenUni`	`yay 8 monitors!`
`20:40.44`	`RaydenUni`	`cya guys`
`20:40.46`	`vithos`	`lol, they think 6 sATA ports is a lot?`
`20:40.48`	`RaydenUni`	`off to go tutor`
`20:40.49`	`EvilJohn-`	`you can run 8 monitors off two cards.`
`20:40.52`	`vithos`	`the rest looks great though`
`20:41.05`	`RaydenUni`	`one sata port per drive isnt it?`
`20:41.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`20:41.10`	`vithos`	`yeah`
`20:41.12`	`RaydenUni`	`and 6 hard drives isn't ridiculous`
`20:41.14`	`NeoTron`	`8 processor cores... for gaming`
`20:41.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`2 esata ports`
`20:41.21`	`NeoTron`	`what kind of game would utilioze even half of those/ :P`
`20:41.22`	`RaydenUni`	`most games can only use one`
`20:41.25`	`EvilJohn-`	`8 cores for anything is pretty much useless`
`20:41.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`not anything`
`20:41.32`	`RaydenUni`	`it would run my ray tracer`
`20:41.33`	`vithos`	`i'm using 8 sATA currently`
`20:41.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`8 cores is great for any distributed processing`
`20:41.40`	`RaydenUni`	`8 cores isn't nearly enough for some things`
`20:41.53`	`NeoTron`	`maybe PS3/360 programming will help companies make games that work on multi-core systems`
`20:41.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`the thing about four pcie 16x slots though is you can put smaller cards in them`
`20:41.56`	`RaydenUni`	`my ray tracer would like 8 cores`
`20:41.59`	`RaydenUni`	`if we added threading`
`20:42.00`	`vithos`	`gogo raytraced game engines?`
`20:42.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`almost everything has one or two 16x slots and then some 1x slots`
`20:42.11`	`EvilJohn-`	`lots of those out there`
`20:42.15`	`NeoTron`	`I know 8 cores can be good.. but for gaming today`
`20:42.19`	`RaydenUni`	`that would be best done by doing the ray tracing on the gpu`
`20:42.20`	`CIA-9`	`03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60316 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Commit fully working polygon shading code.`
`20:42.22`	`EvilJohn-`	`like I said, pretty much useless`
`20:42.37`	`RaydenUni`	`some games use a couple cores`
`20:42.42`	`RaydenUni`	`and then you can render stuff in the background`
`20:42.44`	`RaydenUni`	`and compile your code`
`20:42.52`	`RaydenUni`	`and watch a movie on 3 of your 8 monitors`
`20:42.56`	`RaydenUni`	`3 movies even`
`20:42.58`	`EvilJohn-`	`yeah`
`20:43.03`	`EvilJohn-`	`that's nice`
`20:43.04`	`RaydenUni`	`and download torrentz`
`20:43.07`	`EvilJohn-`	`get right on that`
`20:43.08`	`kadrahil`	`so`
`20:43.10`	`kadrahil`	`er mt`
`20:43.19`	`vithos`	`RaydenUni: i've read that raytracing is much more parallelizable than conventional rendering, and that it'd perform better on the CPU than current GPUs`
`20:43.19`	`RaydenUni`	`and run skype without slowdown`
`20:43.32`	`RaydenUni`	`vithos ray tracing as an algorithm is inherently parallel`
`20:43.41`	`RaydenUni`	`it scales insanely well`
`20:43.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow nvidia sli and ati crossfire support`
`20:44.00`	`RaydenUni`	`a chip built to parellel ray tracing though would be better than 8 cores i believe`
`20:44.11`	`EvilJohn-`	`it's going to be insanely expensive`
`20:44.12`	`NeoTron`	`what about physics accelleration`
`20:44.16`	`NeoTron`	`i.e phys-x`
`20:44.24`	`RaydenUni`	`physics and ray tracing are pretty similar in what they need i think`
`20:44.25`	`NeoTron`	`couldn't you use a bunch of cores solely do to that/`
`20:44.29`	`RaydenUni`	`ray tracing is just a lot of dot and corss products`
`20:44.32`	`RaydenUni`	`oh`
`20:44.34`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah`
`20:44.51`	`NeoTron`	`if it can be separated to an extra card, it can be put on extra cpu cores just as well`
`20:44.52`	`RaydenUni`	`i just think it would be cheaper to do real time ray tracing on a special chip than on 8 cores`
`20:44.53`	`EvilJohn-`	`1 core maybe`
`20:45.00`	`NeoTron`	`problem is if you'd get sufficient benefit from it`
`20:45.09`	`RaydenUni`	`NeoTron but it's best if the core is built specifically for it`
`20:45.10`	`EvilJohn-`	`two cores running the physics subsystem is a nightmare`
`20:45.13`	`RaydenUni`	`and your 8 cores are too generic`
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`20:46.32`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4b.jpg`
`20:46.36`	`Xinhuan`	`here's a different polygon`
`20:46.39`	`Xinhuan`	`pretty? hehe`
`20:46.56`	`RaydenUni`	`cya guys`
`20:47.42`	`chiper`	`what, what is that xin?`
`20:48.00`	`Xinhuan`	`stuff that is to be implemented in routes`
`20:48.13`	`chiper`	`you have routes in IF?`
`20:48.32`	`Xinhuan`	`no, i merely drew it on the most convenient canvas i had - the zone map i am in`
`20:48.37`	`chiper`	`ah`
`20:48.53`	`chiper`	`what is it supposed to represent?`
`20:49.01`	`Xinhuan`	`nothing, its just a random polygon`
`20:49.09`	`Xinhuan`	`you'll soon be able to specify zones where you prevent nodes from being included in a route`
`20:49.25`	`Xinhuan`	`and your region can be convex or even cross each other`
`20:49.34`	`chiper`	`ah, neat`
`20:49.36`	`vithos`	`oh, awesome`
`20:49.56`	`Xinhuan`	`so that netherwing ledge, or that cave you hate`
`20:50.00`	`Xinhuan`	`will no longer be in a route`
`20:50.14`	`Xinhuan`	`when you start making these regions`
`20:50.16`	`chiper`	`it'd be nice if you could teach routes about barriors, so it doesnt have you trying to get across a wall`
`20:50.34`	`Xinhuan`	`that's not Routes fault`
`20:50.47`	`Xinhuan`	`that's what i call "human error - beep! walk around wall pls"`
`20:51.22`	`chiper`	`no no, I mean like where there's a single node on the other side and it hops the wall instead of grouping that node with the ones on the other side`
`20:51.30`	`chiper`	`obviously the human can work around that`
`20:51.39`	`chiper`	`but it'd be nice if you could show it the error of it's ways`
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`20:53.47`	`Josh_Borke`	`or fly over? o.O`
`20:54.03`	`chiper`	`the cases I'm thinking of are in azeroth`
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`20:54.34`	`Xinhuan`	`Routes wasn't really designed for use in azeroth`
`20:54.52`	`Zariel`	`Works well in elwyn`
`20:54.54`	`Xinhuan`	`hence when you create routes, you can only see Outland zones + your current zone + your viewed map zone`
`20:55.06`	`Xinhuan`	`in the dropdown`
`20:55.19`	`chiper`	`oh, I thought it was showing me zones in my level range`
`20:55.25`	`Xinhuan`	`not that i actually want to put 63 zones in that dropdown`
`20:55.29`	`Xinhuan`	`because that would be a mess`
`20:55.36`	`Xinhuan`	`we limited it the above`
`20:55.50`	`Xinhuan`	`Outland zones + your current zone + zone you are viewing in world map`
`20:56.40`	`Xinhuan`	`i should add that to the FAQ`
`20:56.41`	`Xinhuan`	`heh`
`20:59.10`	`sb`	`meh, 26% illidan`
`20:59.26`	`Josh_Borke`	`you can do it!`
`20:59.33`	`sb`	`think so :o`
`20:59.39`	`Stanzilla`	`last phase is easy`
`21:00.05`	`sb`	`depends :p`
`21:00.23`	`Josh_Borke`	`i want to see a video of illidan hard enrage`
`21:00.32`	`Josh_Borke`	`does he just like use a i win button and instantly kill everyone`
`21:00.39`	`Josh_Borke`	`or does he run around smacking people down like flies?`
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`21:04.14`	`sneg_`	`hello can someone remind me who made the lua-bot?`
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`21:06.41`	`Josh_Borke`	`why?`
`21:06.44`	`Josh_Borke`	`which bot?`
`21:06.44`	`Zariel`	`can you use Ace3db without ace3?`
`21:06.50`	`Josh_Borke`	`Zariel: yes`
`21:06.53`	`Zariel`	`awesome`
`21:06.57`	`[SW]Dodge`	`!p six of blessing`
`21:06.57`	`Josh_Borke`	`you need LibStub and AceDB-3`
`21:07.00`	`ThraeBot`	`[SW]Dodge: that is not the item you're looking for!`
`21:07.08`	`[SW]Dodge`	`!p six of blessings`
`21:07.08`	`ThraeBot`	`[SW]Dodge: Name: Six of Blessings; Vendor: 2g 50s; Deposit (24h): 1g 50s; Auction (All): 190g; Disenchant (All): 5g 70s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]`
`21:07.23`	`Josh_Borke`	`!p four of furies`
`21:07.24`	`sneg_`	`this bot`
`21:07.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm...`
`21:07.25`	`ThraeBot`	`Josh_Borke: Name: Four of Furies; Vendor: 2g 50s; Deposit (24h): 1g 50s; Auction (All): 45g [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]`
`21:07.29`	`sneg_`	`lua> print(5)`
`21:07.29`	`lua_bot`	`sneg_: 5`
`21:07.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`!p Your Mom`
`21:07.31`	`ThraeBot`	`NightHawkTheSane: that is not the item you're looking for!`
`21:07.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`.... fuck you, Thrae`
`21:07.38`	`Josh_Borke`	`cladhaire`
`21:07.39`	`[SW]Dodge`	`190 = ah price?`
`21:07.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:D`
`21:07.44`	`Josh_Borke`	`!p eight of furies`
`21:07.44`	`ThraeBot`	`Josh_Borke: Name: Eight of Furies; Vendor: 2g 50s; Deposit (24h): 1g 50s; Auction (All): 199g 99s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]`
`21:07.45`	`sneg_`	`Josh: thanks a lot`
`21:07.48`	`Josh_Borke`	`WTF`
`21:07.48`	`[SW]Dodge`	`on my server it is for 450 Oo`
`21:07.55`	`Josh_Borke`	`my server has 8 at 900g!`
`21:07.59`	`Fisker-`	`~seen nymbia`
`21:08.02`	`purl`	`nymbia <n=nymbia@75-166-25-91.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 21h 4m 45s ago, saying: 'or get a switch ;)'.`
`21:08.12`	`Fisker-`	`i'm gonna find you nymbia`
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`21:10.36`	`NeoTron`	`there's a bot to look up auction prices now?`
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`21:15.06`	`Aeyan`	`Been there a while`
`21:15.08`	`Aeyan`	`Just seldom used`
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`21:17.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`mostly because its pretty useless :P`
`21:24.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"Oh, of course, nothing says romance like the gift of a captured, injured, woman!" Sure sounds like a good gift to me.`
`21:24.48`	`mort`	`i hate archimonde`
`21:24.51`	`mort`	`grah!`
`21:25.06`	`NeoTron`	`I love that fight`
`21:25.22`	`mort`	`it's fun, until you raid with idiots ;)`
`21:26.22`	`NeoTron`	`and yes I was being "serious"`
`21:26.26`	`NeoTron`	`it's so frustrating`
`21:26.28`	`Zariel`	`Josh_Borke, whats the difference between char/profile? Char = Realm\player?`
`21:26.30`	`NeoTron`	`although we've got it down now`
`21:31.26`	`Kivin`	`I'm so confused by stuff I'm reading. Is AceConfig-3.0 for writing slash command trees or for GUIs?`
`21:33.45`	`[SW]Dodge`	`AceConfig-3.0 = gui`
`21:33.52`	`[SW]Dodge`	`AceConsole-3.0 = slash command`
`21:33.58`	`charon`	`so i read in the EJ illidan thread linked above that i can set the max camera distance above what's allowed by the config UI: /run SetCVar("CameraDistanceMaxFactor","4")`
`21:34.05`	`charon`	`anyone know if the zoom speed can be changed too?`
`21:34.47`	`NeoTron`	`don't know`
`21:35.29`	`[SW]Dodge`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Console_variables`
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`21:36.09`	`[SW]Dodge`	`@ charon -^`
`21:36.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`the max zoom distance is still limited even though you can go over the interface config screen limit of 2x`
`21:36.54`	`charon`	`wee thanks dodge`
`21:37.00`	`charon`	`./dump SetCVar("cameraDistanceMoveSpeed","12")`
`21:37.03`	`charon`	`for anyone who wondered`
`21:37.12`	`charon`	`8.33 was default for me`
`21:37.46`	`Josh_Borke`	`Zariel: profile is your currently selected profile`
`21:37.51`	`Josh_Borke`	`Zariel: char is your character?`
`21:38.07`	`Zariel`	`right`
`21:38.47`	`Josh_Borke`	`Kivin: AceConfig is the table standard for options tables`
`21:39.00`	`Josh_Borke`	`AceConsole and AceConfigGui are the implementations of said tables`
`21:39.05`	`Kivin`	`appName - (string) application name <- AceConfig:RegisterOptionsTable argument #2. Is that the addon name or something else?`
`21:39.16`	`kenlyric`	`so, I found the mod that was joing Acecomm as a regular channel.`
`21:39.21`	`Josh_Borke`	`Kivin: it's whatever you want it to be`
`21:39.36`	`kenlyric`	`it gathered up a bunch of boss voice emotes and made them easy to play/assign to actions.`
`21:39.38`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: ... so it's specific to the config dialog?`
`21:40.06`	`Josh_Borke`	`kivin: it's some uniquely identifiable string you want to associate with the options table`
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`21:41.20`	`Josh_Borke`	`now, i'm not exactly an expert, so i could be wrong on these things`
`21:41.24`	`Kivin`	`So is there any documentation on the AceConfigDialog specs?`
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`21:42.17`	`Kivin`	`Oh, the wiki/AceConfig3 page should be moved to AceConfig-3.0 :P`
`21:42.31`	`Josh_Borke`	`meh, it's linked from Ace3`
`21:42.54`	`Kivin`	`It is, else I'd've never have found it`
`21:43.04`	`Kivin`	`Still doesn't lookup correctly in the search`
`21:43.24`	`Josh_Borke`	`kick an admin about it`
`21:43.27`	`Josh_Borke`	`i'm just a lowly user`
`21:43.37`	`Josh_Borke`	`i have no more pull than you :-P`
`21:43.44`	`Kivin`	`:P`
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`21:45.20`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60317 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - remove the need to call :OnMouseoverUpdate() from unit frames`
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`21:45.51`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60318 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - remove calls to DogTag:OnMouseoverUpdate()`
`21:47.50`	`omeow`	`kinda funny that WoWAce has an ad for the Curse client, which does pretty much the same thing if I think?`
`21:48.46`	`CIA-9`	`03elsia * r60319 10Recount/Recount.lua:`
`21:48.46`	`CIA-9`	`Recount:`
`21:48.46`	`CIA-9`	`- Streamlined the color db code, now there is only one db copy of class color settings.`
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`21:49.06`	`Kivin`	`okay, so how do i turn an AceConfig3 RegisterOptionsTable into a Dialog? It appears to be doing AceConsole's job, according to what [SW]Dodge told me`
`21:49.37`	`CIA-9`	`03elsia * r60320 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua colors.lua):`
`21:49.37`	`CIA-9`	`Recount:`
`21:49.37`	`CIA-9`	`- Streamlined color db code. Now there is only one db entry for class colors.`
`21:50.35`	`sb`	`GNAAAAAAAAAAAAA`
`21:50.36`	`sb`	`2%`
`21:50.44`	`Kivin`	`Anyone?`
`21:50.51`	`Josh_Borke`	`kivin: look inside another addon`
`21:51.06`	`NeoTron`	`sb: let me guess... parasites?`
`21:51.19`	`Josh_Borke`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/RaidCast/Ace3/RaidCast_Config.lua`
`21:51.20`	`Kivin`	`sigh`
`21:51.21`	`Josh_Borke`	`for example`
`21:51.23`	`Kivin`	`Back to Rock for me`
`21:51.23`	`sb`	`ppl getting crazy "omg, need2dps"`
`21:51.28`	`Josh_Borke`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:51.29`	`sb`	`and parasites wipe, yes`
`21:51.30`	`sb`	`:/`
`21:51.54`	`Josh_Borke`	`so i have /rc config pulls up the gui`
`21:52.01`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: That's giving me a slash command handler, not a gui`
`21:52.02`	`NeoTron`	`how many mages?`
`21:52.15`	`sb`	`3`
`21:52.22`	`sb`	`its okay - too much panic`
`21:52.27`	`NeoTron`	`good number`
`21:52.42`	`Hobby`	`where are the other 22 mages you need?`
`21:53.38`	`Josh_Borke`	`Kivin: and how do you recommendy ou open a gui then?`
`21:53.48`	`Josh_Borke`	`you want /<command> to open teh gui?`
`21:53.49`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: that's what I'm asking you`
`21:54.02`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: I don't really care. at this point, i can't even figure out how to create the gui, let alone open it`
`21:54.28`	`Josh_Borke`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:54.34`	`Josh_Borke`	`is how ammo does it in fishermansfriend`
`21:54.43`	`Josh_Borke`	`that might be a good addon to look at for a easy one`
`21:54.46`	`Josh_Borke`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FishermansFriend/Ace3/FishermansFriend.lua`
`21:55.13`	`Kivin`	`alright`
`21:55.27`	`Josh_Borke`	`it's short, has 3 options`
`21:56.16`	`Kivin`	`alright, ConfigDialog3:Open got my grotesque gui up`
`21:56.34`	`Kivin`	`now to see if i can figure out how to refine it. at least the config table is more or less documented to my satisfaction. thanks.`
`21:56.48`	`Josh_Borke`	`np`
`21:56.51`	`Josh_Borke`	`good luck`
`21:56.55`	`Josh_Borke`	`it took me a little while to figure it out`
`21:56.59`	`Josh_Borke`	`had to dig through aguf`
`21:57.09`	`Josh_Borke`	`to try out all the different things`
`21:57.16`	`Josh_Borke`	`i guess routes and gathermate have pretty good guis too`
`21:57.37`	`Kivin`	`I'm looking at AGUF now, but it's way out of the scope of what I'm trying to do atm.`
`21:57.58`	`[SW]Dodge`	`me... blizz wants my money Q_Q "You have used up your prepaid time for this account. Please purchase more to continue playing"`
`21:58.06`	`[SW]Dodge`	`meh*`
`21:58.14`	`Kivin`	`I just haven't the patience to dig through eight-hundred lines of uncommented code to get a gleaming of what I'm supposed to be doing`
`22:00.34`	`Josh_Borke`	`kivin: what are you trying to do?`
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`22:01.01`	`moeymoejoe`	`hi, can anyone answer an itemsync questions?`
`22:01.07`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: The one thing that's stopped me from porting over any of my addons to Ace3 from Rock is the lack of an adequate replacement for RockCOnfig`
`22:01.16`	`Kivin`	`~asktoask`
`22:01.16`	`purl`	`This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.`
`22:01.57`	`Josh_Borke`	`sorry, i've never used rock so i can't really correlate with that statement :-)`
`22:02.03`	`Josh_Borke`	`why change from rock if you don't need to?`
`22:02.25`	`Kivin`	`Shrug Rock is a great deal of overhead`
`22:02.51`	`Kivin`	`It's alright for some things. But I have addons that are < 250 lines of code that inherit pretty much the entire rock framework`
`22:03.12`	`moeymoejoe`	`My itemsync database is huge, 105963. I notice there are a lot of duplicate entries. For example there are 6 masterwork breastplates of the eagle. First is green, other five have little dots in front of them. how can i clear the dups out?`
`22:04.34`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: Also, from what I've seen, the Ace3 config dialogs loan better to layman-friendly configuration than RockConfig does`
`22:04.41`	`chiper`	`what is this teleport from SW to Theramore I keep hearing about?`
`22:04.59`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: Observe the difference between Cart_Routes and GatherMate/Routes, for example`
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`22:05.18`	`Cheads`	`chiper probably just from one quest`
`22:05.27`	`Hjalte`	`How come BigWigs doesnt always tell me the detailed information on all trash waves in MH?`
`22:05.30`	`Cheads`	`where you go from theramore and then back`
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`22:05.55`	`moeymoejoe`	`yea after you finish the quest, they wont port you any more`
`22:06.18`	`Josh_Borke`	`kivin: well, i can't really help you more than i have, not without a specific question`
`22:06.45`	`Kivin`	`Josh_Borke: You've helped me as much as I needed`
`22:06.54`	Funkeh`	`Hjalte, sometimes it depends on someone using bigwigs to start the event`
`22:06.58`	`chiper`	`hmm, I dont think I ever did this chain`
`22:07.15`	`*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://files.wowace.com/ \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org \| Ace3 in beta \| WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 \| Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it.`
`22:07.18`	`Hjalte`	Funkeh`: What can I do to helpit?
`22:07.36`	`chiper`	`oh, wait, i did do it`
`22:07.47`	Funkeh`	`Hjalte, have someone using bigwigs start the event preferably`
`22:09.45`	`mitchnull`	`jeebus... 1100 pages of addon dev guide...`
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`22:12.41`	`CIA-9`	`03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r60321 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua:`
`22:12.41`	`CIA-9`	`LibHealComm-3.0:`
`22:12.41`	`CIA-9`	`- Added version query functionality.`
`22:12.41`	`CIA-9`	`- Diverted some event registrations until necessary to spread out the load during login.`
`22:12.41`	`CIA-9`	`- Do the LibBabble-Spell look-ups only once.`
`22:12.41`	`CIA-9`	`- Added some preliminary infrastructure to support healing over time spells.`
`22:13.54`	`Kivin`	`Hmm... embedding AceConsole-3.0 isn't giving me RegisterChatCommand o_O`
`22:14.32`	`Josh_Borke`	`i can't help you there, i have no idea how that stuff works`
`22:23.20`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60322 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: fixed a typo`
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`22:23.57`	`[SW]Dodge`	`local CoolDownButtons = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("CoolDown Buttons", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0")`
`22:24.00`	`[SW]Dodge`	`self:RegisterChatCommand("cdb", function() LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):Open("CoolDown Buttons") end) <- in OnInitialize`
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`22:25.06`	`[SW]Dodge`	`with /cdb my confgdialog opens :)`
`22:25.51`	`sb`	`gnnl`
`22:25.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I present to you all: The LoL of the Day: http://kojakdaily.blogspot.com/2008/01/video.html`
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`22:26.14`	`Josh_Borke`	`nsfw`
`22:26.21`	`sb`	`illidan still alive :/`
`22:26.31`	`Pkekyo\|`	`thanks Josh_Borke, forgot that`
`22:27.14`	`Pkekyo\|`	`either way, watch it`
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`22:27.46`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Kivin: ping :)`
`22:28.23`	`Kivin`	`[SW]Dodge]: pong`
`22:29.03`	`Kivin`	`Very strange. I don't get :RegisterChatCommand from the AceConsole3 embed`
`22:29.08`	`Kivin`	`I have to libstub it`
`22:29.48`	`Snago`	`Kivin: That's very strange idd. I'm getting it when I embedd :S`
`22:30.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`which versions are you both using?`
`22:30.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`trunk?`
`22:30.11`	`Kivin`	`trunk`
`22:30.22`	`[SW]Dodge`	`trunk`
`22:30.25`	`Kivin`	`I deleted my branch folder earlier and got it from the WAU`
`22:30.57`	`Snago`	`trunk`
`22:32.17`	`Kivin`	`hmm I'm getting it as an embed now. I have no idea what I was doing earlier`
`22:32.29`	`Kivin`	`my code is a mess`
`22:35.00`	`markm`	`how much resist do you need for tanks on hydross now days?`
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`22:48.14`	`kadrahil`	`any experienced priests around?`
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`22:48.28`	`Hobby`	`so 2.4 no summoning restriction in netherstorm, that mean level 68s can run kara?`
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`22:49.02`	`Lukian`	`If by kara you mean TK, possibly.`
`22:49.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`kara too`
`22:49.18`	`Lukian`	`ah for attunement`
`22:49.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`since you need to run tk to get kara keyed`
`22:49.20`	`Lukian`	`interesting`
`22:49.23`	`Stanzilla`	`they said they lifted the restriction`
`22:49.29`	`Stanzilla`	`that does not mean that they removed it`
`22:49.44`	`Stanzilla`	`so you will probably able to port to netherstorm`
`22:49.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`true`
`22:49.57`	`Stanzilla`	`but not up to TK`
`22:50.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`they might have made it so only the platforms to tk are restricted`
`22:50.43`	`Lukian`	`yeah that's quite likely`
`22:55.16`	`Snago`	`or that you'll only be able to summon ppl with the appropriate riding skill`
`22:55.21`	`CIA-9`	`03ckknight * r60323 10CowTip/Position/Position.lua: CowTip_Position - use ANCHOR_CURSOR if possible`
`22:55.48`	`Teza`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43107123291&sid=1#177`
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`23:02.01`	`CIA-9`	`03peragor * r60324 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:`
`23:02.01`	`CIA-9`	`GridStatusHealer:`
`23:02.01`	`CIA-9`	`- Fixed Main Tank detection to work if using CTRaidAssist.`
`23:04.03`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> tonumber(test)`
`23:04.04`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: nil,`
`23:04.09`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> tonumber("test")`
`23:04.10`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: nil,`
`23:04.18`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lua> tonumber(1)`
`23:04.18`	`lua_bot`	`[SW]Dodge: 1,`
`23:06.38`	`CIA-9`	`03pettigrow * r60325 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update`
`23:08.54`	`CIA-9`	`03peragor * r60326 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua):`
`23:08.54`	`CIA-9`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`23:08.54`	`CIA-9`	`- Added group 25/10 tank support with and without tanks. Will choose oRA/CTRA tanks first, and if not found will default to Blizz tanks.`
`23:08.54`	`CIA-9`	`- 8 more layouts`
`23:08.54`	`CIA-9`	`- Cleaned up options in the layout list. Should now be ordered correctly with a spacer to separate it from the Grid defaults.`
`23:08.57`	`CIA-9`	`- Unfortunately will need some new localizations for the new options and layouts.`
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`23:34.33`	`xemacs`	`hey :)`
`23:35.53`	`xemacs`	`i wanted to ask if someone could make a ace'd version of this addon: http://media6.curse-gaming.com/images/previews/25596/ogri2.png`
`23:36.16`	`Ellipsis`	`what's wrong with it?`
`23:36.18`	`xemacs`	`im not familliar with lua, otherwise id do it by myself :o`
`23:36.20`	`Ellipsis`	`it's working fine for me`
`23:36.29`	`xemacs`	`Ellipsis its not aced, thats the problem with it :D`
`23:36.32`	`Pkekyo\|`	`xemacs: do it yourself`
`23:36.34`	`Ellipsis`	`that's not a problem`
`23:36.39`	`Ellipsis`	`it doesn't need Ace`
`23:36.40`	`Pkekyo\|`	`xemacs: not aced != not good`
`23:37.12`	`Shirik`	`But someone told me Ace cures cancer`
`23:37.32`	`xemacs`	`i know but i preffer configuration via fubar-addon not by textinterface :o`
`23:37.43`	`Ellipsis`	`so write a fubar plugin for it`
`23:37.45`	`Shirik`	`Then write it yourself, tbph`
`23:37.48`	`Pkekyo\|`	`then make a fubar plugin for it?`
`23:37.56`	`Pkekyo\|`	`tbph?`
`23:38.01`	`Shirik`	`to be perfectly honest`
`23:38.06`	`Ellipsis`	`though since there's only one thing to configure for that addon...`
`23:38.10`	`Ellipsis`	`and you really only need to do it once...`
`23:38.16`	`Ellipsis`	`I can't imagine it's really that worthwhile`
`23:38.29`	`Pkekyo\|`	`xemacs: don't expect someone to rewrite an addon just because you 'like fubar better than /command config'`
`23:38.56`	`SunTsu`	`Istn't there even a ace-addon that does nearly the same?`
`23:39.15`	`SunTsu`	`s/ist/Is/`
`23:39.26`	`Pkekyo\|`	`most likely...not that anyone but xemacs would care`
`23:39.51`	`xemacs`	`SunTsu yep but its kinda overloaded and not that comfortable :o`
`23:40.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`then write a bloody fubar plugin for that addon of yours`
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`23:40.51`	`SunTsu`	`xemacs: So, you have some choices ;) Do a fubar plugin, rewrite Ogri'lazy, use the ace-one, and: let everything be as it is`
`23:41.41`	`Pkekyo\|`	`xemacs: what you've got to realize is; noone gives a flying fuck.... if you're good at luring people into giving a fuck, great for you, if not, you better learn how to do stuff yourself... as did I...sucks at first, but worth it`
`23:41.42`	`CIA-9`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60327 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: updated sample with descriptions`
`23:42.20`	`xemacs`	`is there a good tutorial for fubar addons?`
`23:42.40`	`Pkekyo\|`	`try the wiki page for fubar?`
`23:42.51`	`Pkekyo\|`	`other than that: most likely not...try having a look at how other addons work`
`23:43.23`	`Industrial`	`and change your name to gvim`
`23:43.26`	`Industrial`	`badoom tisch`
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`23:43.45`	`CIA-9`	`03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60328 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: todo list and some observations`
`23:43.52`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Industrial: care to elaborate? I clearly wasn't around when the joke was invented`
`23:44.08`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: editor wars`
`23:44.16`	`SunTsu`	`emacs vs vim`
`23:44.35`	`SunTsu`	`or vi, that is`
`23:44.36`	`Pkekyo\|`	`text editor?`
`23:44.50`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: yes, both born under unix`
`23:45.17`	`Pkekyo\|`	`oh`
`23:45.25`	`Pkekyo\|`	`well screw that, I'm running WinSyntax :p`
`23:45.37`	`SunTsu`	`There normally is a (x)emacs faction and a vi one`
`23:46.00`	`Industrial`	`also, I'm just kidding ofcourse. I couldnt care less what someone else uses`
`23:46.03`	`Industrial`	`about what*`
`23:47.00`	`Pkekyo\|`	`well, once in a while I take it upon myself to convert some absolute arsehats...but generally, I leave people be`
`23:47.39`	`Industrial`	`I have so much to whine about`
`23:47.47`	`Industrial`	`I should make little notes on a personal wiki or something`
`23:47.59`	`Industrial`	`explaining WHY I don't like that people use nnscript`
`23:48.17`	`Pkekyo\|`	`:p`
`23:48.23`	`Industrial`	`because making a comment and explaining it is becoming so tedious`
`23:48.31`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I could bitch and moan about stuff like that all day tbh :)`
`23:48.33`	`Industrial`	`theres like a 100 little things I could link tio`
`23:48.35`	`Industrial`	`heh`
`23:48.42`	`Industrial`	`being an ass all day on IRC \o/`
`23:48.53`	`Industrial`	`(_\|_), rather`
`23:49.04`	`Industrial`	`anyway nn`
`23:49.40`	`Pkekyo\|`	`ftw`
`23:49.41`	`Pkekyo\|`	`g'nite`
`23:51.17`	`Recluse`	`so i unbound my pet action bar (was ctrl-1, -2, ...), but i cannot get [modifer:ctrl] to work with my normal action bar if i press the button (only works if i mouse-click the button) - any ideas?`
`23:51.49`	`Industrial`	`Recluse: in the bindings bind it to a key press accept go back and unbind it`
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`23:51.59`	`Industrial`	`thats how I override it anyway`
`23:52.00`	`Industrial`	`tedious`
`23:52.05`	`Industrial`	`<really gone>`
`23:52.06`	`Recluse`	`bind ctrl key you mean`
`23:52.08`	`Recluse`	`?`
`23:52.10`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`23:52.27`	`Recluse`	`ah, ok - i'll try that in a sec here`
`23:52.29`	`Recluse`	`ty`
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