| 00:01.22 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 00:03.29 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 00:04.11 | *** join/#wowace Camci (n=enescamc@c-0d32e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:10.54 | Recluse | Industrial: won't let me bind just the ctrl key by itself |
| 00:11.14 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r60329 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:11.14 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:11.14 | CIA-9 | - DB update |
| 00:11.57 | CIA-9 | 03vectrexgamer * r60330 10ShoppingList/ (ShoppingList.lua ShoppingListUtil.lua): |
| 00:11.57 | CIA-9 | ShoppingList: |
| 00:11.57 | CIA-9 | - Oops. Some characters got a garbage value set for selected_recipe because of an incorrect initialization. |
| 00:12.19 | Recluse | Industrial: woot! nvm, i rebound ctrl-4 (the action button i wanted to use) and it reassigned it from a _discord_ bar (haven't used those in... a year? lol) very odd, but it works now |
| 00:13.18 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 00:19.27 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 00:23.19 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60331 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added some cmdline switches |
| 00:25.06 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-32-113-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:27.59 | Pkekyo| | <--- just blew $175 on DVDs |
| 00:28.57 | chiper | fun |
| 00:29.06 | chiper | I did that once, after I got fired |
| 00:29.18 | chiper | erm, laid off |
| 00:29.31 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 00:29.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:30.07 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 00:30.42 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 00:30.49 | Pkekyo| | what movies? and why? |
| 00:32.26 | Thorgard | kagaro, what's kgPanels? eePanels-like? |
| 00:32.43 | Stanzilla | eePanels3 |
| 00:32.46 | kagaro | my port to Ace3 |
| 00:32.58 | kagaro | ee is working on it with me |
| 00:32.58 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 00:33.07 | Thorgard | Coo', coo'. |
| 00:33.27 | Pkekyo| | fo' shizzle ma' dizzle, mothafizzle |
| 00:33.57 | Thorgard | Word. |
| 00:34.00 | kagaro | so far it is on par with eepansl features with more script control |
| 00:34.11 | kagaro | and like non mem usage |
| 00:34.13 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 00:34.28 | Pkekyo| | Word - Write letterz 'n shit, yo! |
| 00:34.37 | kagaro | I love that pic |
| 00:34.47 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 00:34.51 | Pkekyo| | best shoop EVARR |
| 00:35.13 | Pkekyo| | which reminds me - I've got to find a bloody job now that I'm economically ruined |
| 00:36.08 | *** join/#wowace asdf (i=WinNT@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 00:37.07 | *** join/#wowace array{Endeavour} (n=chatzill@p50816EB1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:38.43 | chiper | wow. GM failing to read the comment FTL. http://www.wowblues.com/us/pets-that-chase-you-forever-4311224443.html |
| 00:38.52 | chiper | poor guy, that has to be so frustrating |
| 00:40.32 | markm | I must fail to read comments too |
| 00:40.52 | Recluse | pet-stealth bug has been around forever tho. drives me nuts (druid/rogue mains) |
| 00:41.21 | CIA-9 | 03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60332 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: fleshing out function calls and locals |
| 00:41.35 | markm | I thought the only legit case for a bug was the rogue vanish version |
| 00:42.12 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r60333 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Add item notes to the Basic XML and CTRT XML outputters, hopefully I did it correctly (I've never used these formats myself). |
| 00:42.50 | Recluse | well, as the blue stated: 'stealth is not a combat escape mechanism' - the problem is that we aren't in combat when we stealth |
| 00:43.35 | Arrowmaster | having a pet chase you and then stealthing and the pet still coming to attack you isnt a bug |
| 00:43.50 | Arrowmaster | its a bug if you vanish and the pet is still chasing you |
| 00:43.52 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=chatzill@c-68-54-218-192.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 00:44.07 | Recluse | yar, vanish doesn't work either :p |
| 00:44.12 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r60334 10MorgDKP/ (BidQuery.lua DKPtracker.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
| 00:44.12 | CIA-9 | MorgDKP: |
| 00:44.12 | CIA-9 | - Fix nil error due to POOL not defined |
| 00:44.12 | CIA-9 | - Added update functionality to listdkp tooltip for invites (white = in raid, red = offline, Green = online) |
| 00:44.19 | markm | vanish doesn't ALWAYS work |
| 00:44.54 | markm | I can't wait for the CoT portal |
| 00:44.58 | Recluse | vanish only works for me against npc's and players. player pets never drop aggro via vanish T_T |
| 00:44.59 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: youll probably never get NRT to be 100% compatible with ctrt xml |
| 00:44.59 | markm | I hate getting all the way down there |
| 00:45.17 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: okay, I have no intention of trying |
| 00:45.35 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r60335 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: |
| 00:45.35 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-2.0 - make :FixCodeStyle() automatically add brackets where it deems |
| 00:45.35 | CIA-9 | necessary, for clarity. for [Alpha ? Bravo ! Charlie], it will add brackets |
| 00:45.35 | CIA-9 | around each part if they make up a non-singular sequence. The exception to this |
| 00:45.35 | CIA-9 | is when you have [Alpha ? Bravo ? Charlie ? Delta], which will keep the sequence |
| 00:45.35 | CIA-9 | of ANDs. |
| 00:45.37 | Arrowmaster | the eqdkp plugin to read ctrt xml is fucking retarded |
| 00:45.39 | CIA-9 | - make :FixCodeStyle() separate similar brackets, so [Tag | [Tag ? [Tag]]] turns into [Tag | Tag ? [Tag] ] ] |
| 00:45.43 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I just recently added the ability to add notes to items, so figured I'd at least output it. |
| 00:45.57 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r60336 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): |
| 00:45.58 | CIA-9 | BossTalk: |
| 00:45.58 | CIA-9 | - re-ordered the options menu, |
| 00:45.58 | CIA-9 | - added new options for sync sending / receiving |
| 00:45.58 | CIA-9 | - added event frequencies |
| 00:45.58 | CIA-9 | - added adjustable trigger percentages for health/mana events |
| 00:46.02 | CIA-9 | - minor bugfixes |
| 00:46.33 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: from what I can see, I would blame CT for that, not eqdkp |
| 00:46.36 | vhaarr | the format is awful |
| 00:47.01 | Arrowmaster | the eqdkp plugin is retarded because of what it reads and doesnt read |
| 00:47.11 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r60337 10LightQueue/ (LightQueue.lua LightQueue.toc): |
| 00:47.11 | CIA-9 | LightQueue: v2.5 |
| 00:47.11 | CIA-9 | - Now has queue leave functionality, using StinkyQueue sync messages. |
| 00:47.11 | CIA-9 | - New slash command /unq makes the group leave the queue. |
| 00:47.11 | CIA-9 | - You now must be group/raid leader to join/leave the queue to prevent mockups. |
| 00:47.37 | Arrowmaster | theres like a part of the format for listing all the players and their class/level but the plugin doesnt even read that, it reads class/level from the join section |
| 00:47.59 | vhaarr | why don't they fix it, then? |
| 00:48.07 | chiper | you guys missed the key element. he was out of combat before he went into stealth |
| 00:48.21 | chiper | he wasnt using it to break combat, he was already OUT of combat |
| 00:49.06 | Arrowmaster | chiper: didnt miss that |
| 00:49.12 | markm | chiper: it doesn't matter |
| 00:49.15 | Arrowmaster | since you can only stealth out of combat |
| 00:49.22 | Arrowmaster | you have to vanish to do it incombat |
| 00:49.27 | vhaarr | I don't understand why this "Reaper" series is so popular on TV.com, it's above Seinfeld on their "Most Popular Shows: Comedy". |
| 00:49.30 | chiper | right |
| 00:49.32 | markm | I can get out of combat in arena to drink |
| 00:49.40 | vhaarr | I've seen 2 episodes now based on that recommendation, and I laughed once, barelyø. |
| 00:49.40 | markm | while kiting |
| 00:49.56 | chiper | so his point is legit. he fell out of combat and the pet still kept coming. |
| 00:50.10 | chiper | it should have reset target |
| 00:50.14 | markm | nope |
| 00:50.15 | Arrowmaster | no it shouldnt have |
| 00:50.27 | vhaarr | I've pondered getting into Californication or Pushing Daisies, anyone that can recommend something? |
| 00:50.28 | Arrowmaster | pets are considered 'missiles in flight' |
| 00:50.38 | vhaarr | Or Arrested Development. |
| 00:50.39 | chiper | ick |
| 00:50.57 | chiper | I hate that as a hunter, my pet keeps getting lost |
| 00:51.08 | Recluse | vhaarr: they don't fix it because bliz doesn't recognize it as a 'bug' it's intentional game design |
| 00:51.25 | vhaarr | Recluse: I'm not talking about anything remotely blizzard-related.. |
| 00:51.26 | Recluse | highly illogical, but intentional lol |
| 00:51.36 | chiper | over here recluse |
| 00:51.41 | chiper | wrong target |
| 00:51.44 | Recluse | lol |
| 00:51.49 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I like californication |
| 00:51.53 | Ellipsis | l2tabtarget better |
| 00:51.54 | Arrowmaster | he was talking about broken ctrt import plugin for eqdkp |
| 00:52.32 | NeoTron | anyone using CTRT i hyjal? |
| 00:52.40 | vhaarr | NivFreak: have you seen Dexter? |
| 00:52.45 | NeoTron | for some reason it keeps assigning boss loot to "Trash" |
| 00:52.54 | NeoTron | alternatively does anyone know of a better tracker? |
| 00:52.57 | NivFreak | vhaarr: love it |
| 00:52.59 | NivFreak | both seasons |
| 00:53.02 | vhaarr | I love that show, too bad it only has 2 seasons so far |
| 00:53.03 | vhaarr | cool |
| 00:53.07 | vhaarr | I'll go with your recommendation then |
| 00:53.20 | NivFreak | it's not nearly as good as dexter |
| 00:53.21 | NivFreak | :P |
| 00:53.24 | NivFreak | but I enjoyed it |
| 00:53.35 | chiper | still, my original point remains, the blue poster didnt address his complaint, and then locked the topic so he couldn't respond. pretty brutish |
| 00:53.49 | vhaarr | bad thing about dexter is that it's like all the other crime/thriller stuff, I knew what was going on the first episode the characters were introduced |
| 00:53.58 | chiper | but I guess that's the bricks |
| 00:53.59 | Arrowmaster | what was the original complaint? |
| 00:54.07 | vhaarr | that it was his brother in s1 and that he was the ice truck killer, etc |
| 00:54.14 | NeoTron | and the import into eqdkp (the plugin I uses) is horribly coded |
| 00:54.24 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I was slower to catch on |
| 00:54.32 | NeoTron | so bad in fact I've considered coding my own import script since I have custom stuff in theer |
| 00:54.33 | chiper | arrow: the thread was about pets not resetting. blue posted about stealth not breaking combat (duh, of course it doesnt) |
| 00:54.39 | NivFreak | I've come to not expect much from tv shows |
| 00:54.42 | Recluse | Arrowmaster: "i'm out of combat. hunter sends pet. still ooc. i stealth. pet does not deaggro." |
| 00:54.45 | NivFreak | so I'm not trying very hard |
| 00:54.46 | vhaarr | NivFreak: my dad forced me to watch crime shows with him during my younger years, I've had lots of experience |
| 00:55.02 | Arrowmaster | yes and its been stated many times that stealthing does not make pets reset |
| 00:55.07 | Arrowmaster | there for moot point |
| 00:55.14 | vhaarr | NivFreak: he'd always say after 5-10 minutes of a show the rest of what was going to happen, a bit annoying :P |
| 00:55.14 | Lukian | Recluse, that's not a bug :) |
| 00:55.17 | vhaarr | NeoTron: NRT |
| 00:55.30 | NivFreak | yea, that would bug me |
| 00:55.40 | Recluse | right, as the blue said: 'it's intentional' but it's ridiculously overpowered and illogical |
| 00:55.42 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I recently put it on wowace.com again, let me know if you need anything |
| 00:55.53 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: are you putting the boss in the boss section of ctrt xml? |
| 00:55.54 | kenlyric | you should be in combat the instant the enemy targets you |
| 00:55.57 | kenlyric | that's how mobs work. |
| 00:55.59 | vhaarr | NivFreak: yeah but I enjoyed Dexter anyway because of the character and the interplay between them all |
| 00:55.59 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I assume it auto-tracks on boss kills? |
| 00:56.03 | kenlyric | you're in combat long before they hit you |
| 00:56.17 | NivFreak | vhaarr: yea, the actor found a great role for himself |
| 00:56.19 | vhaarr | NeoTron: install it and drag it along on the next raid, you'll see what it does |
| 00:56.24 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but yes |
| 00:56.30 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I have no idea |
| 00:56.34 | NivFreak | I tried to watch six feet under when it was on |
| 00:56.35 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: because ctrt import plugin for eqdkp doesnt read from the boss section of the xml or the instance section |
| 00:56.36 | NeoTron | to clarify, one thing I modified with CT_RT was support for tracking wipes on bosses as kills |
| 00:56.39 | Arrowmaster | it reads from the note i think |
| 00:56.41 | NeoTron | sicne we give wipe DKP |
| 00:56.42 | NivFreak | was a bit off from my taste |
| 00:56.42 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: you can write your own output formatter easily |
| 00:56.51 | Arrowmaster | i dont want to |
| 00:56.56 | Arrowmaster | i dont use eqdkp anymore |
| 00:57.01 | Recluse | chiper: i feel your pain, but there's nothing can be done about it T_T |
| 00:57.03 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: then why do you care :P |
| 00:57.06 | NivFreak | I want eqdkp without dkp |
| 00:57.07 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:57.08 | Arrowmaster | i dont really |
| 00:57.15 | NivFreak | I want to track attendance and show loot drop history |
| 00:57.24 | NivFreak | but I don't want the loot system involved ;) |
| 00:57.24 | NeoTron | NivFreak: then don't give points for events? |
| 00:57.28 | Arrowmaster | but i spent a lot of time trying to make the dkpmon exporter work with eqdkp, and it sucked |
| 00:57.29 | chiper | recluse: mostely I'm just pissed that everyone here keeps doing the same thing the blue did. locking onto the stealth element and ignoring the real issue |
| 00:57.29 | vhaarr | NeoTron: just doubleclick the fubar plugin to take attendance with NRT |
| 00:57.30 | NivFreak | NeoTron: that's what I do now |
| 00:57.34 | NeoTron | eqdkp doesn't require dkp |
| 00:57.38 | NivFreak | I know |
| 00:57.49 | vhaarr | NivFreak: tried NRT then? |
| 00:57.53 | NivFreak | vhaarr: nope |
| 00:58.00 | vhaarr | it's magic |
| 00:58.09 | NivFreak | linky |
| 00:58.13 | vhaarr | wowace |
| 00:58.19 | NivFreak | it's an addon? |
| 00:58.22 | NeoTron | vhaarr: does it by chance have some kind of standby tracking too? |
| 00:58.22 | NivFreak | does it have a web side? |
| 00:58.30 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah |
| 00:58.32 | vhaarr | NivFreak: no |
| 00:58.37 | vhaarr | well |
| 00:58.41 | NivFreak | see, that's the bit I want |
| 00:58.42 | vhaarr | rabbit.nihilum.eu/nrt.html |
| 00:58.49 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:58.50 | Recluse | chiper: there appears to be some issue as to what 'in combat' means when it concerns npc's, me thinks. there's like a hidden 'combat' server-side (basically). |
| 00:58.55 | JoshBorke | aestil: ping |
| 00:59.00 | *** join/#wowace EvilJohn (n=EvilJohn@ppp-70-247-143-28.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 00:59.09 | aestil | JoshBorke: i'm here. |
| 00:59.13 | JoshBorke | aestil: what gear should i get for starting Hyjal/BT? |
| 00:59.21 | vhaarr | NeoTron: just read the option menu carefully and ask me in privmsg here if you have any questions |
| 00:59.29 | Recluse | if i'm 100 yds from pet when it comes to me and i stealth and walk away, how does the pet know where to find me? it's silly lol |
| 00:59.34 | NeoTron | my next raid isn't until tomorrow night |
| 00:59.36 | aestil | JoshBorke: wait, what gear should you look for in hyjal? or what should you have going into hyjal? |
| 00:59.37 | vhaarr | since I'll head to bed soon |
| 00:59.39 | NeoTron | but I'll drag it along |
| 00:59.46 | JoshBorke | aestil: what should i have |
| 00:59.53 | chiper | recluse: I guess, yeah. it sounds to me like pets are their own behavior category. they dont behave like mobs, but they arent treated like players either |
| 00:59.54 | JoshBorke | aestil: i feel like i should have more stam than i currently do |
| 00:59.55 | Recluse | true npc's i understand, but player pets? phooey |
| 00:59.57 | aestil | around 1100 unbuffed +dmg |
| 01:00.11 | JoshBorke | i'm at 1152 unbuffed +dmg |
| 01:00.19 | NeoTron | depends on class :P |
| 01:00.20 | aestil | good. |
| 01:00.29 | *** join/#wowace |Snago| (i=kvirc@kr-lun-19-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 01:00.32 | JoshBorke | NeoTron: spriest |
| 01:00.34 | aestil | i have 8041 unbuffed health |
| 01:00.41 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 01:00.47 | NeoTron | 8500 hits on Naj'entus |
| 01:00.49 | JoshBorke | i've got 6461 =D |
| 01:00.51 | NeoTron | need to survive that |
| 01:00.54 | JoshBorke | unbuffed |
| 01:01.03 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 01:01.08 | NeoTron | 9-10k health buffed (PW:Shield can be included in that number) helps.. |
| 01:01.10 | aestil | and 1118 +dmg with blessings deck, so add some more dmg on top of that. |
| 01:01.11 | chiper | Recluse: stealthing isnt even the problem here. the guy ran so far ahead of the pet that it wasnt even visable on his screen, the target lock reset. at that point, the pet should have reset targets too. if it doesnt, then he shouldn't have fallen out of combat |
| 01:01.18 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I use ct_raidtracker + eqdkp just to give a web based history of raids basically |
| 01:01.24 | JoshBorke | link your char again |
| 01:01.26 | aestil | JoshBorke: he's right about najgentus, you will not be able to do it without around 9k health at a minimum. |
| 01:01.34 | aestil | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkspear&n=Aestil |
| 01:01.37 | NivFreak | we use suicide kings for a loot system, so the DKP bits just confuse people |
| 01:01.39 | vhaarr | NivFreak: okay, well you should be able to plug in NRT instead of CTRT |
| 01:01.43 | JoshBorke | so what gear should i look for? |
| 01:01.46 | chiper | either behave like world mobs, where it deaggros when you get out of range, or behave like instances where you stay in combat |
| 01:01.49 | JoshBorke | honor/arena? |
| 01:01.51 | NivFreak | vhaarr: ah, it'll upload to it just fine? |
| 01:01.57 | JoshBorke | or pick up other gear? |
| 01:01.59 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I wrote it for nihilum originally but then people saw it in their videos and wanted to try it as well |
| 01:02.00 | aestil | belt out of SSC is great. |
| 01:02.08 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I have NO idea. |
| 01:02.10 | NivFreak | lol |
| 01:02.12 | aestil | honor badge gloves are about = to T6 |
| 01:02.13 | JoshBorke | won't see that for another week |
| 01:02.13 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I've NEVER used it myself. |
| 01:02.15 | NivFreak | hahaa |
| 01:02.17 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I just wrote it. |
| 01:02.18 | NivFreak | what do they do with it? |
| 01:02.30 | vhaarr | track raids? |
| 01:02.37 | NivFreak | I mean, they only use it in game? |
| 01:02.39 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.39 | aestil | my gear isn't that good JoshBorke |
| 01:02.40 | NivFreak | :P |
| 01:02.44 | vhaarr | what do you mean? |
| 01:02.46 | NeoTron | man I'd love if the tracker ignored items we don't charge dkp for (or rather auto-assign/price them)... and Kael'thas elgendaries |
| 01:02.47 | vhaarr | it's an addon |
| 01:02.56 | chiper | Recluse: I'm curious if this happens in world pvp. if I sick a pet on a hordie, and that hordie runs away, will the pet stay on him forever? |
| 01:02.58 | NivFreak | right, do they do anything external to WoW with the data |
| 01:02.58 | vhaarr | NeoTron: NRT ignores those |
| 01:02.59 | aestil | if you are going into BT, you're prolly gonna die. if its hyjal, there's alot of upgrades in there for you. |
| 01:03.06 | NeoTron | vhaarr: <3 |
| 01:03.07 | vhaarr | NivFreak: they have a eqdkp site |
| 01:03.14 | NeoTron | of course we're all done with Kael'thas now |
| 01:03.23 | aestil | JoshBorke: and as far as hyjal goes, if you're learning the enounters with the rest of your guild, you probalby won't die more than anyone else would. |
| 01:03.27 | NeoTron | and we went out with a boom - Server's first Ashes of Al'ar |
| 01:03.35 | Recluse | chiper: the part that's unknowable is if the warlock had graphic settings higher, he could have targeted and resent the pet to the druid during the moment between combat and the druid's stealth |
| 01:03.36 | vhaarr | NeoTron: it also treats marks of the illidari, hearts of darkness, and all the epic gems specially |
| 01:03.49 | NeoTron | that is good |
| 01:03.55 | Recluse | chiper: well, i don't do much of world pvp, but i assume it would work the same |
| 01:03.57 | chiper | recluse: true, but the poster makes it sound like he got to the other side of the BG |
| 01:04.00 | aestil | JoshBorke: on the boss the does death and decay in hyjal, make sure you have spell detail turned up so you can see it. PW:S and move immediately if youa re in it. |
| 01:04.16 | NeoTron | ah so standby attendance is done via whispers |
| 01:04.20 | Arrowmaster | what part of 'pets do not stop chasing after a player to attack them if that player stealths' dont you understand |
| 01:04.33 | Recluse | chiper: if i turn my settings up all the way, i can stand on my base's roof in wsg and see inside the enemy base... |
| 01:04.34 | Arrowmaster | its not a bug |
| 01:04.34 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yes, by whispering the main characters name to the raid leader |
| 01:04.35 | chiper | arrow: what part of IGNORE THE STEALTH ELEMENT did you not understand? |
| 01:04.45 | NeoTron | here's the real question though - is standby tracked separately from kills? :P |
| 01:04.48 | vhaarr | NeoTron: and you can also make it announce to a custom channel so that out-of-guild alts get the message |
| 01:04.52 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 01:04.56 | NeoTron | we do use a standby channel |
| 01:05.00 | chiper | we're not talking about stealth, stealth has nothing to do with the issue |
| 01:05.02 | vhaarr | NeoTron: you can create a new attendance set whenever you want |
| 01:05.06 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:05.09 | vhaarr | NeoTron: just doubleclick the fubar icon |
| 01:05.30 | vhaarr | but when a boss dies you also get a popup asking if you want to take attendance now |
| 01:06.06 | aestil | kobe bryant gets in a zone at a certain point in every season, and for some reason, he can make stupidly impossible shots. |
| 01:06.09 | NeoTron | ah so you would manually do attendance after a kill, separate from the "kill" set to separate them |
| 01:06.38 | vhaarr | NeoTron: loot, boss kills and attendance sets are not really tied together at all |
| 01:06.44 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@129.21.28.162) |
| 01:06.45 | vhaarr | NeoTron: the output formatter does that |
| 01:06.50 | vhaarr | there are 3 included by default |
| 01:06.55 | vhaarr | at the end of the file |
| 01:07.04 | vhaarr | Nihilum, Basic XML and CTRT XML |
| 01:07.20 | vhaarr | basic xml is just an example formatter I wrote so people could get an idea of how it works |
| 01:07.27 | vhaarr | the CTRT one was written by someone else |
| 01:07.31 | vhaarr | so I have no idea how it works |
| 01:08.13 | NeoTron | I'll look at it. might want to add some additional features to better serve our system |
| 01:08.37 | NeoTron | naturally in a way that makes it optional in a neat patch :P |
| 01:08.38 | vhaarr | then I'd like if you posted about them on the forums so I could consider adding them to upstream |
| 01:08.44 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r60338 10SilverDragon/ (Core.lua Libs/ SilverDragon.toc embeds.xml): SilverDragon: Sink-1.0 + embeds.xml. |
| 01:09.07 | NeoTron | of course |
| 01:11.52 | NeoTron | making separate event/attendance for standby kills (automatically) and limit standby eligable people by rank would be the two things I could see needed |
| 01:12.30 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I don't understand the first item you described, elaborate |
| 01:12.45 | NeoTron | we have two lists per kill: attendees aqnd standby |
| 01:12.57 | ckknight | gief 2.4.0 PTR |
| 01:13.00 | NeoTron | I want them separate yet without extra effort of manually doing a tandby check |
| 01:13.40 | NeoTron | basically whispered attendance should always be separate from people actually present |
| 01:13.53 | vhaarr | NeoTron: if you customize your output formatter, I can add that easily |
| 01:14.22 | *** join/#wowace masanbol (n=masanbol@c-98-198-102-241.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 01:14.23 | vhaarr | and the rank limit can be added as an option as well |
| 01:14.24 | NeoTron | in eqdkp we have: BT - Anetheron Kill and BT - Anetheron Standby Kill - today standby is all manual |
| 01:14.33 | NeoTron | yeah not saying it'd be hard :) |
| 01:14.42 | NeoTron | just peculiar details of our dkp system |
| 01:15.02 | NeoTron | although I'm kind of thinking the need for standby as separate tracked dkp is going way |
| 01:15.24 | NeoTron | it's an idiot check - make sure idiots don't get DKP immediately usable in raids.. but now we don't give DKP to idiots so it makes the system redundant |
| 01:17.25 | *** join/#wowace Hotphoenix (n=blah@87.112.0.172.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net) |
| 01:17.43 | vhaarr | NeoTron: okay, try it out and make a forum post if you have any suggestions |
| 01:18.00 | vhaarr | I won't code anything now, going to bed, so also mention the rank stuff |
| 01:18.05 | vhaarr | I can add that as an option |
| 01:18.49 | *** join/#wowace silentium (i=silentiu@dslb-088-066-021-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 01:18.56 | NeoTron | the forum where? nihilum or wowace? |
| 01:19.17 | vhaarr | doesn't matter, wherever you have an account |
| 01:20.29 | NeoTron | likely wowace then |
| 01:20.49 | NeoTron | I'll try it out for a night or two and see how it works |
| 01:22.30 | Thorgard | G'dang.. something's spewing out a lot of debug messages.. or something. |
| 01:22.42 | Thorgard | Looks to be DogTag related. |
| 01:23.09 | NeoTron | Thorgard: so the question then, is who let the dogs out? |
| 01:23.56 | Thorgard | ckknight, left any debug stuff in during the last commit to DogTag? |
| 01:24.07 | ckknight | whoops |
| 01:24.27 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r60339 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - remove debug line |
| 01:24.29 | NeoTron | my bat sense says that means "yes". just a hunch |
| 01:24.31 | ckknight | I've a prepared statement for this, Thorgard |
| 01:24.34 | ckknight | my bad |
| 01:24.41 | Thorgard | ;P |
| 01:24.59 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:26.08 | Pkekyo| | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs25/i/2008/035/3/c/Where_I__m_From_by_Pkekyo.jpg comments? :) |
| 01:27.10 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84.119.46.41) |
| 01:28.04 | [SW]Dodge | nice :) |
| 01:28.55 | [SW]Dodge | where is that? |
| 01:29.09 | [SW]Dodge | that = it |
| 01:29.22 | NivFreak | what does BuffProtectorGnome do |
| 01:29.23 | NivFreak | heh |
| 01:29.31 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 01:29.38 | Pkekyo| | mid-western norway :) |
| 01:29.38 | NivFreak | oh |
| 01:29.48 | NivFreak | a cancel prompt |
| 01:29.56 | NivFreak | that would hurt for BoP on the tank |
| 01:29.57 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:30.32 | vhaarr | NivFreak: obviously you can customize what buffs to protect |
| 01:31.05 | vhaarr | I only protect flasks/elixirs and 1h buffs |
| 01:31.16 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: more specificly, five mins from my house with a car :p |
| 01:31.45 | NivFreak | vhaarr: yea, I was reading the code |
| 01:32.00 | NivFreak | you actually have a problem with clickling buffs off? :) |
| 01:32.03 | NeoTron | seems like nrt doesn't track item costs |
| 01:32.28 | vhaarr | NeoTron: when someone loots an item, you can have a dialog automatically pop up to enter a DKP value |
| 01:32.36 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: nice ._. |
| 01:32.38 | vhaarr | NeoTron: or you can ctrl+click loots in the tooltip to do it after the fact |
| 01:32.46 | NeoTron | ah ok |
| 01:32.51 | NeoTron | I don't see a reference to it in the loot |
| 01:32.56 | NeoTron | s/loot/source/ |
| 01:32.57 | vhaarr | NeoTron: a note set for an item is remembered for that item, so if you have DKP values static per item, you won't have to enter it again |
| 01:33.00 | *** join/#wowace Bejitt (n=Bejitt@63.97.245.98) |
| 01:33.08 | *** join/#wowace rubik (n=rubik@cpe-76-167-55-89.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 01:33.12 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r60340 10/branches/LibMMButton/: branching for some dev work |
| 01:33.15 | vhaarr | for that item id* |
| 01:33.16 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: aye...it's boring here, I want to leave and study somewhere else, but I don't wanna move away from the scenery :p |
| 01:33.38 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I told you to read the options menu |
| 01:33.40 | *** join/#wowace InSAT (n=marco@host252-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 01:33.44 | vhaarr | :P |
| 01:33.45 | NeoTron | exporter: text = text .. "<Note></Note>" |
| 01:33.52 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: hehe |
| 01:33.55 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I fixed that in my last commit |
| 01:34.04 | [SW]Dodge | here is a bad scenery AND its boring -.- |
| 01:34.10 | Pkekyo| | hehe |
| 01:34.13 | vhaarr | NeoTron: like I said, I didn't make the CTRT exporter, so I didn't add that in there until now |
| 01:34.21 | NeoTron | ok makes sense |
| 01:34.28 | Pkekyo| | if that was the case here, I'd definitely be off by summer :p |
| 01:34.34 | NeoTron | I didn't see it because it wasn't there yet |
| 01:34.45 | vhaarr | NivFreak: no, but some people do :) |
| 01:34.56 | NivFreak | wow |
| 01:34.56 | Bejitt | ckknight: did you just make a pitbull commit? |
| 01:34.57 | vhaarr | NivFreak: and the shaking when you hover a flask is nice as well |
| 01:35.02 | NivFreak | I didn't know about Mobnotes |
| 01:35.05 | NivFreak | I love lazy mods |
| 01:35.06 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:35.09 | ckknight | Bejitt: no, DogTag |
| 01:35.09 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r60341 10/branches/ (LibMMButton/ LibMMButton-1.0/): LibMMButton-1.0: name the branch correcly |
| 01:35.11 | NeoTron | I might just make my own exporter and make an easy importer so I don't have to deal with the crappy ctra ones :P |
| 01:35.12 | vhaarr | NivFreak: what are you checking all my mods now? |
| 01:35.15 | NivFreak | yes |
| 01:35.16 | NivFreak | :) |
| 01:35.17 | vhaarr | :P |
| 01:35.22 | NivFreak | I have to say |
| 01:35.24 | vhaarr | how? |
| 01:35.27 | Bejitt | i'm getting print spam when a pitbull frame is first shown |
| 01:35.31 | NeoTron | the ctra format and the importer is just rather annoyingly bad |
| 01:35.32 | ckknight | Bejitt: already fixed |
| 01:35.35 | NivFreak | it's not easy to find docs on everything |
| 01:35.36 | Bejitt | zing |
| 01:35.38 | Bejitt | ty |
| 01:35.39 | vhaarr | NivFreak: haha |
| 01:35.53 | NivFreak | mobnotes just made my install list though |
| 01:35.55 | NivFreak | that's awesome |
| 01:35.55 | vhaarr | NeoTron: okay, let me know if you write a good output formatter, I'll add it in |
| 01:36.03 | vhaarr | NivFreak: get lifepercent :P |
| 01:36.09 | NivFreak | I can't tell you how many times I've been marking up moroes's adds |
| 01:36.13 | NivFreak | and can't remember who the fuck mana burns |
| 01:36.18 | Bejitt | bleh gotta wait for the zip to generate then |
| 01:36.22 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 01:36.31 | NeoTron | I just know to kill the chicks first |
| 01:36.48 | NivFreak | vhaarr: no way |
| 01:36.51 | NivFreak | I don't want to know! |
| 01:36.52 | NeoTron | although the whole anathema/benediction thing.. |
| 01:37.03 | vhaarr | NivFreak: :P |
| 01:37.24 | *** join/#wowace spathi (n=spathi@c-67-162-1-247.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:37.54 | NivFreak | last time I looked at my /played on my warrior |
| 01:37.56 | NivFreak | I got really worried |
| 01:38.23 | Killmore | since wau update, look my log |
| 01:38.24 | Killmore | http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bugwi8.jpg |
| 01:38.25 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 01:38.43 | Thorgard | Killmore, it's already fixed. |
| 01:38.55 | NivFreak | so did you write lootwhore to deal with raids with FFA loot? |
| 01:38.58 | NivFreak | or just for the hell of it |
| 01:39.04 | vhaarr | just for the hell |
| 01:39.06 | NivFreak | ah |
| 01:39.17 | Recluse | NivFreak: my /played isn't too scary since i'm an altaholic and have too many 70's. would hate to see /played global tho... |
| 01:39.19 | vhaarr | check out auratochat and errormonster as well, they're nice utils |
| 01:39.38 | vhaarr | Recluse: lifepercent gives you that, in a slightly different way |
| 01:39.52 | Recluse | hehe |
| 01:39.54 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I use errormonster now |
| 01:40.16 | NivFreak | I thought I already had the functionality of auratochat from simplecombatlog |
| 01:40.25 | NivFreak | but maybe I'm mistaken |
| 01:40.28 | vhaarr | Recluse: "probably"? get lifepercent and you'll KNOW ^^ |
| 01:40.36 | Recluse | hehe |
| 01:40.38 | vhaarr | NivFreak: you are mistaken |
| 01:41.01 | Killmore | Thorgard: hmm doing other wau update and there is nothing right now |
| 01:41.11 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I use it for Innervate, Misdirection, Blessing of Protection and Blessing of Freedom, mostly. |
| 01:41.16 | vhaarr | NivFreak: but also some boss abilities |
| 01:41.33 | NivFreak | ah, I have misdirection from big brother |
| 01:41.38 | vhaarr | bb sucks ass |
| 01:41.39 | NivFreak | not sure about innervate etc |
| 01:41.57 | NivFreak | there's a wierd misdirect bug with it |
| 01:42.10 | vhaarr | I helped make bb originally, but now it's just a bloated abomination |
| 01:42.11 | rubik | it just shows the misdirect target twice |
| 01:42.20 | vhaarr | ATC doesn't do that :P |
| 01:42.21 | rubik | no big deal |
| 01:42.53 | NivFreak | rubik: sometimes it shows the hunter as his misdirect target |
| 01:42.57 | NivFreak | when it is in fact, me :) |
| 01:43.02 | rubik | i use bb to also embarass raid members in /ra if they don't use elixirs and stuff on bosses we're learning |
| 01:43.10 | NivFreak | I see it most often with 2 hunters misdirecting at the same time |
| 01:43.12 | Recluse | feature creep? |
| 01:43.14 | NivFreak | but I've seen it with just one |
| 01:43.21 | vhaarr | rubik: we just award extra DKP to people using elixirs and flasks |
| 01:43.31 | NivFreak | hrm |
| 01:43.32 | vhaarr | rubik: and food buffs |
| 01:43.32 | NivFreak | interesting |
| 01:43.49 | NivFreak | I don't want to manage DKP though |
| 01:43.52 | rubik | what do you use to check for elixirs/flasks/food buffs |
| 01:43.53 | NivFreak | so suicide kings it is! |
| 01:44.04 | vhaarr | rubik: bananadkp, my own dkp addon |
| 01:44.09 | rubik | gotcha |
| 01:44.27 | vhaarr | kind of written for myself, but I know at least 2 other guilds use it |
| 01:45.08 | vhaarr | everything is handled in-game, we don't have a eqdkp |
| 01:45.25 | rubik | nice.. i think i looked at that code a long long time ago |
| 01:46.06 | rubik | but guild is too casual and usually same 25 of us raid so we just NBG loot (only just now started to work on TK/SSC) |
| 01:46.16 | vhaarr | it supports a client/server model for running more than 1 raid at a time |
| 01:46.27 | NivFreak | vhaarr: so NRT does have an export function (something like CTRT's dkp string)? |
| 01:46.29 | vhaarr | since we run 2x ZA etc |
| 01:46.33 | JoshBorke | banana blows |
| 01:46.35 | vhaarr | NivFreak: yes obviously |
| 01:46.39 | JoshBorke | it errored on me =( |
| 01:46.45 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I assumed, but you beat around the bush earlier ;) |
| 01:46.48 | vhaarr | NivFreak: it supports pluggable output formatters |
| 01:46.54 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: :( |
| 01:47.01 | NivFreak | vhaarr: ah |
| 01:47.01 | JoshBorke | i'm just saying... |
| 01:47.04 | NivFreak | ok, I'll check it out |
| 01:47.11 | asdf | our guild uses EternalDKP |
| 01:47.19 | vhaarr | NivFreak: there's even a custom formatter written as a seperate svn module here on wowace |
| 01:47.24 | rubik | i need bbcode/[item] tagged loot export format to copy/paste to a forum plz.. kthx. :P |
| 01:47.34 | vhaarr | NRT_EPGP |
| 01:47.46 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: pastey the error? :P |
| 01:47.46 | rubik | whoa.. checking now |
| 01:47.59 | JoshBorke | man, that was long time ago |
| 01:48.03 | JoshBorke | i'd assume you fixed it |
| 01:48.21 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: well I run with a pretty full dataset here, I haven't ran it with the default settings for ages |
| 01:48.28 | vhaarr | so that's probably the problem |
| 01:48.51 | NivFreak | The biggest problem lately is that I switch from my warrior to my priest for a couple fights |
| 01:48.57 | JoshBorke | would you like me to reinstall it and tell you if it errors? i don't particularly care anymore |
| 01:49.02 | NivFreak | so I end up with funky data stats/loot wise |
| 01:49.06 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: oh, this was a long time ago? |
| 01:49.10 | NivFreak | stats is easy enough with someone else's combat log |
| 01:49.15 | JoshBorke | a month or 2 |
| 01:49.17 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: I thought you tried again just now |
| 01:49.20 | NivFreak | CTRT->eqdkp is not as simple |
| 01:49.21 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: then don't bother |
| 01:49.27 | JoshBorke | kk |
| 01:49.39 | vhaarr | I probably fixed it |
| 01:51.34 | rubik | vhaarr: re: custom output formatters.. how would i write that up? just like it is in NRT.lua with the addon:RegisterOutputFormatter() calls? |
| 01:51.44 | vhaarr | rubik: yes |
| 01:51.57 | vhaarr | at the end of the file |
| 01:52.13 | vhaarr | or as a 3rd party addon depending on nrt |
| 01:52.20 | vhaarr | then you'll get the output formatter as a choice in the options |
| 01:52.22 | rubik | gotcha.. neat |
| 01:52.40 | vhaarr | and when you click an attendance set, you'll get a text box with that output formatters output in it |
| 01:52.47 | rubik | i shall mess with it then for sure (at the end of the file for now) |
| 01:52.56 | rubik | yup, sounds pretty straight forward, thx |
| 01:53.02 | vhaarr | rubik: take a look at the nihilum formatter just for kicks |
| 01:53.10 | *** join/#wowace bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 01:53.12 | vhaarr | they ONLY use the names separated by line endings |
| 01:53.22 | vhaarr | vhaarr\nrubik\nnivfreak |
| 01:53.32 | vhaarr | then look at the CTXML one |
| 01:53.37 | vhaarr | you can do pretty much what you want |
| 01:53.58 | rubik | sweet.. just keep concatenating stuff separated by newlines to 'text' var eh? |
| 01:54.08 | vhaarr | yeah easy :P |
| 01:54.10 | rubik | or however i want it |
| 01:54.22 | vhaarr | I toyed with creating some proper XML library, but it's not worth it |
| 01:54.28 | vhaarr | text concat works fine |
| 01:55.05 | NeoTron | vhaarr: so weren't you going to bed? :P |
| 01:55.05 | rubik | i'll have to re-enabled my NRT.. i left it on for too long (a year+?) and turned it off recently when i noticed that i never deleted its data sets and i accidentally hovered over the fubar icon. lol |
| 01:55.14 | vhaarr | NeoTron: can't now, too much activity |
| 01:55.15 | vhaarr | :P |
| 01:55.24 | Ellipsis | IRC > sleep |
| 01:55.26 | vhaarr | rubik: haha |
| 01:55.33 | vhaarr | rubik: well there's a "Clear All" option now |
| 01:55.42 | rubik | yeah.. going to have to use that right off the bat, i think |
| 01:55.45 | NeoTron | vhaarr: if I wrote an exporter it really would be a lot easier to parse just as a simple text file |
| 01:55.50 | vhaarr | rubik: and you can also configure the columns shown in the tooltip, limiting the amount of data it needs to process to show it |
| 01:55.51 | rubik | or just nuke my SV file |
| 01:56.05 | NeoTron | xml is just extra fluff :P |
| 01:56.07 | vhaarr | NeoTron: it doesn't have to output xml, what do you mean? |
| 01:56.12 | vhaarr | NeoTron: you can output whatever you want |
| 01:56.15 | NeoTron | vhaarr: that is what I mean |
| 01:56.17 | vhaarr | right |
| 01:56.23 | NeoTron | I was just commenting on the nihilum exporter |
| 01:56.29 | vhaarr | it's not xml |
| 01:56.31 | NeoTron | a bit more complex than that |
| 01:56.33 | NeoTron | but not much |
| 01:56.39 | vhaarr | rubik: or that .P |
| 01:57.12 | NeoTron | I like the idea of a tracker that is maintained and not a hack |
| 01:57.24 | NeoTron | out of curiosity how does NRT track which boss you're killing? |
| 01:57.32 | vhaarr | it doesn't |
| 01:57.38 | vhaarr | it tracks deaths |
| 01:57.49 | NeoTron | ok fair enough |
| 01:57.55 | rubik | it grabs bigwigs death notifications, was it? |
| 01:57.58 | rubik | maybe not |
| 01:57.59 | vhaarr | no |
| 01:58.00 | NeoTron | how does it handle boss died and then someone killed a trash mob? |
| 01:58.09 | vhaarr | NeoTron: it checks if the unit is a worldboss class |
| 01:58.18 | vhaarr | NeoTron: and has an ignore list, check the top of NRT.lua |
| 01:58.23 | vhaarr | "START CUSTOMIZATION SECTION" |
| 01:58.25 | vhaarr | comment |
| 01:58.28 | vhaarr | there's a lot there you can tweak |
| 01:58.32 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 01:58.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 01:58.32 | vhaarr | in lua |
| 01:58.38 | NeoTron | ah right |
| 01:58.57 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 01:58.57 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 01:59.04 | vhaarr | "ignoredBosses", a table |
| 01:59.06 | NeoTron | I could care less if items incorrectly are linked toa boss kill as long as boss kill items aren't linked to trash |
| 01:59.10 | NeoTron | yeah I see it |
| 01:59.20 | Jaxon | What might be spitting out debug information to my chatframe1 with a current update? |
| 01:59.39 | Ellipsis | dogtag, been fixed now |
| 01:59.41 | vhaarr | NeoTron: a boss kill is reset 300 seconds after a boss is dead, so if you spend more than that on loot distribution, you're fucked |
| 01:59.43 | Ellipsis | update again |
| 01:59.56 | Jaxon | Ellipsis: thats, haven't played in a few days, wasn't sure how recent it would've been |
| 02:00.00 | Jaxon | s/thats/thanks/ |
| 02:00.18 | vhaarr | NeoTron: that's 5 minutes, more than enough time |
| 02:00.22 | Pkekyo| | ~dict strafe |
| 02:00.36 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 02:00.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 02:00.43 | Pkekyo| | ~dict 1 strafe |
| 02:00.53 | Pkekyo| | ~dict 3 strafe |
| 02:01.25 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=Next96@121.129.140.251) |
| 02:01.29 | rubik | that dict kind of sucky |
| 02:01.39 | rubik | not one clear definition for what strafing actually is |
| 02:03.42 | *** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 02:05.00 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r60342 10NRT/NRT.lua: |
| 02:05.00 | CIA-9 | NRT: If someone who is in the raid - in one of the groups that is being tracked |
| 02:05.00 | CIA-9 | for attendance - sends a tell in for attendance, NRT will no longer inform them |
| 02:05.00 | CIA-9 | that they're "not in the guild, group or whitelist", but just ignore their |
| 02:05.00 | CIA-9 | whisper. |
| 02:06.23 | Pkekyo| | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/035/a/6/Sunset_Boulevard_by_Pkekyo.jpg comments? :) |
| 02:06.52 | Ellipsis | // |
| 02:07.25 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: fancy translating that to english? :p |
| 02:07.55 | ckknight_ | Pkekyo|: the watermark is lame |
| 02:07.57 | ckknight_ | it's all I see |
| 02:08.34 | Pkekyo| | ckknight_: I've had to start watermarking all my stuff, some cunts used it as their own on their own websites |
| 02:09.13 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: you asked for comments |
| 02:09.17 | Ellipsis | so I commented you |
| 02:09.37 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: not funneh :< |
| 02:09.38 | NeoTron | vhaarr: ah so entirely time based. that is good |
| 02:10.02 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07kagaro * r60343 10LibMMButton-1.0/: LibMMButton-1.0: copy from trunk to branch |
| 02:11.20 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@adsl-76-234-145-196.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:11.46 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodg1 (n=Dodge@p5B00B4E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:11.59 | Pkekyo| | ckknight_: can you see where I removed the car? :p |
| 02:12.13 | ckknight_ | where was it? |
| 02:12.36 | ckknight_ | I can't tell |
| 02:12.36 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r60344 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Use game time instead of local time for attendance and loot tracking, so attendance reports submitted from separate players (who might live in different time zones!) have a common timeline. |
| 02:12.57 | Pkekyo| | pretty much center of the picture, 20m up |
| 02:13.17 | Pkekyo| | over the 'a' in the watermark |
| 02:13.27 | Pkekyo| | more over the 'i', actually |
| 02:14.08 | Pkekyo| | if anyone can tell: please say so |
| 02:15.06 | ckknight_ | do you have the original pic? |
| 02:15.37 | Pkekyo| | not uploaded, no |
| 02:16.31 | Pkekyo| | gimme a min |
| 02:20.07 | Pkekyo| | Original - http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs27/i/2008/035/3/9/Sunset_Blvd___Pre_edit_by_Pkekyo.jpg |
| 02:20.07 | Pkekyo| | Product - http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/035/a/6/Sunset_Boulevard_by_Pkekyo.jpg |
| 02:20.07 | Pkekyo| | taking the original down in 10min or so |
| 02:21.58 | [dRaCo] | you notice it when you've got the original to compare |
| 02:22.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: at a glance, not really, but if you're looking for alterations, its pretty easy to see where the photo was changed |
| 02:22.43 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: when comparing them, you mean? |
| 02:23.22 | Pkekyo| | [dRaCo]: how would you not? there's a bloody car missing :p |
| 02:23.26 | Pkekyo| | --taking it down-- |
| 02:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: no, i just by looking at the edited one, if you're specifically looking for alterations, you can see where the change was made, but its hard to notice if you're not actually looking for it |
| 02:24.05 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: where can you tell? and by what? |
| 02:24.31 | Pkekyo| | bah, just saw, I fucked up with a shadow |
| 02:24.35 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84.119.46.41) |
| 02:24.37 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo|: yeah... what I meant was more like: if you know where to look |
| 02:24.53 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 02:25.47 | Pkekyo| | I honestly can't tell where the car has been removed in the final version - if I didn't know where, but that a car had been removed, I'd most certainly point to where I fucked up with the shadow |
| 02:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | its not a huge deal if you dont know there should be something there, you'd never see it at a glance |
| 02:26.30 | *** join/#wowace cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:26.44 | Pkekyo| | how long does a glance last, and at what point does it trancend into a glare? :p |
| 02:26.57 | Diao | uh |
| 02:27.07 | Diao | what about stare :o |
| 02:27.44 | Pkekyo| | awmagawd, forgot about stares, WE'RE DOOMED |
| 02:29.34 | [dRaCo] | always been |
| 02:29.39 | [dRaCo] | what's it this time? |
| 02:30.10 | Pkekyo| | huh? |
| 02:31.17 | *** join/#wowace chrono03 (i=chrono03@69.176.128.247) |
| 02:31.33 | chrono03 | does anyone have antagonist working? |
| 02:32.04 | Pkekyo| | for some reason, my cameras only get green/turqoise lens flares :p |
| 02:32.57 | chrono03 | does anyone have antagonist working? |
| 02:33.05 | *** join/#wowace copystring (n=copystri@p548A26AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:33.14 | Pkekyo| | probably |
| 02:33.22 | chrono03 | nm |
| 02:37.32 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia2 (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 02:38.53 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 02:39.06 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 02:41.39 | *** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@cpe-75-80-152-25.san.res.rr.com) |
| 02:44.31 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia2 (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 02:44.43 | Pkekyo| | hmm, I should go to bed...have to skip school in four hours |
| 02:44.58 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 02:45.14 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, haha |
| 02:45.31 | Pkekyo| | g'nite all, see you in 5 hours :) |
| 02:47.11 | Pkekyo| | what time is it stateside now? both east and westcoast? |
| 02:47.25 | Arrowmaster | 9:47pm east |
| 02:47.54 | Pkekyo| | that would be the latest? |
| 02:48.43 | Pkekyo| | 18 years and I still haven't got those bloody timezones right |
| 02:49.49 | *** join/#wowace mykx (n=Shelton@host-84-9-64-63.dslgb.com) |
| 02:49.55 | theoddone33 | 6:49 west coast |
| 02:50.22 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=chatzill@c-68-54-218-192.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 02:50.49 | Pkekyo| | ok, cheers |
| 02:50.50 | *** join/#wowace Estil (n=lucretiu@c-24-22-66-58.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 02:51.06 | Pkekyo| | maybe the item that financially ruined me will be shipped in the morning then :p |
| 02:51.10 | Pkekyo| | g'nite all, I'm off |
| 02:55.12 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@122-57-247-218.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 02:58.45 | vhaarr | grrr |
| 02:59.27 | *** join/#wowace dashkal (n=chatzill@S0106000476e7af4b.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 03:00.32 | Stanzilla | same here -.- |
| 03:00.52 | dashkal | mwrarf. Is there any etiquette to consider before claiming a wiki page for an upcomming mod I'm working on? Nowhere near ready for svn access (it's still in design) but I'd like to start committing the design notes and such to the wiki as I work one it so I can ask for comments/advice as I go. |
| 03:01.34 | vhaarr | dashkal: no, go ahead |
| 03:04.25 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 03:04.48 | JoshBorke | dashkal: just try to piss off as many people as you can |
| 03:05.19 | *** join/#wowace Shadow00Caster (n=Shadow00@ip68-101-233-98.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 03:05.45 | dashkal | *snickers* That'll happen no matter what. I'm new to LUA working on project that'll likely take a good 200 hours all said and done. The code will not be exactly pretty at first. |
| 03:05.45 | krka | dashkal: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 03:05.55 | dashkal | meep, gotta quit capatalizing it |
| 03:07.18 | JoshBorke | damn straight you do |
| 03:10.13 | *** join/#wowace ven_ (n=ven@i59F57480.versanet.de) |
| 03:14.50 | WobWork | I misread krka's trigger to say: "means moron" =P |
| 03:15.23 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r60345 10Routes/Modules/AutoShow.lua: Routes: Fix auto show/hide visibility changes not applying immediately. |
| 03:17.55 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r60346 10PitBull/ (16 files in 15 dirs): |
| 03:17.55 | CIA-9 | PitBull - change the metalayout system to allow modules to register an icon or bar with metalayout. |
| 03:17.55 | CIA-9 | - Make modules register their own respective icons or bars. Remove :OnUnknownLayout from said modules. |
| 03:18.13 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r60347 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: Fix Moroes' adds. Someone help me add more notes for the missing instances, zzz. |
| 03:19.01 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r60348 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - remove FullBar registration |
| 03:19.24 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r60349 10PitBull_FullBar/FullBar.lua: PitBull_FullBar - register with PitBull explicitly rather than relying on MetaLayout |
| 03:19.49 | JoshBorke | ugh |
| 03:19.55 | JoshBorke | still can't get this pos to work |
| 03:20.28 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@cpe-74-74-225-9.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 03:20.32 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 03:20.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 03:23.20 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r60350 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Bugfix non-enUS locales. |
| 03:24.32 | Funkeh` | later |
| 03:24.47 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:25.22 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60351 10Routes/ (Locales/Locale-deDE.lua Modules/AutoShow.lua): Routes: Merge trunk changes into branch (r60275-r60345 inclusive) |
| 03:26.03 | CIA-9 | 03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60352 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: |
| 03:26.03 | CIA-9 | kgPanelsConfig: |
| 03:26.03 | CIA-9 | - Fleshed out more function calls |
| 03:26.03 | CIA-9 | - Config menu now generates panel menus when asked |
| 03:26.07 | dashkal | meh, the stylesheed used in the Wiki treats definition lists and ordered lists strange (no wordwrap) |
| 03:26.39 | *** join/#wowace Shadow00Caster (n=Shadow00@ip68-101-233-98.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 03:28.08 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:30.56 | CIA-9 | 03yleaf * r60353 10Grid/GridLocale-zhCN.lua: Grid: update zhCN locale |
| 03:31.24 | CIA-9 | 03vectrexgamer * r60354 10ShoppingList/ShoppingList.lua: |
| 03:31.24 | CIA-9 | ShoppingList: |
| 03:31.24 | CIA-9 | - Small change to reduce unnecessary activity. |
| 03:32.10 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r60355 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Fixed the following error "line 276: attempt to perform arithmetic on upvalue 'cx' (a nil value)" that occurs when you try to change a setting while the hud hasn't been displayed before since login. |
| 03:33.59 | CIA-9 | 03yleaf * r60356 10oRA2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): oRA2: update zhCN locale |
| 03:34.24 | dashkal | If anybody is interested in the high-level design for this mod (forms in the WoW UI) have a look: http://wowace.com/wiki/Nexus |
| 03:34.37 | dashkal | forums* |
| 03:35.00 | dashkal | It's actually quite a bit more than that, read for more info. |
| 03:38.44 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:47.37 | dashkal | Heh, I probably should have picked a higher traffic time to poke for initial feedback :p |
| 03:48.36 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-213-238.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:52.36 | *** join/#wowace Shadow00Caster (n=Shadow00@ip68-101-233-98.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 03:54.57 | vhaarr | dashkal: Note that there are implementations of RC4, TEA and MD5 in Lua in the wowace repo already. |
| 03:55.37 | vhaarr | dashkal: And you might want to look at PrivateChat. |
| 03:55.44 | dashkal | vharr: sweet, that'll make the hash trust easier to implement, but I still need some sort of asymetric crypto for the ideal solution. I'm still hoping to find something easier than RSA. |
| 03:56.04 | dashkal | I don't want encryption, just signing. Crypto is meaningless... just send an in game mail and that's as private as it gets anyway |
| 03:56.40 | vhaarr | Blizzard can still read it. |
| 03:57.02 | dashkal | Exactly, so I won't bother implementing true encryption. I just want it to be Difficult for someone to forge a message. |
| 03:57.54 | dashkal | Ultimately, unless you encrypt it from outside of WoW entirely on another PC entirely, Blizzard could (therotically) read the message anyway. |
| 03:58.09 | CIA-9 | 03nogudnik * r60357 10Skillet/LibPossessions.lua: |
| 03:58.09 | CIA-9 | Skillet: |
| 03:58.09 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.09 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.10 | *** join/#wowace mort (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 03:58.49 | dashkal | if you're going though that much effort to hide something from blizz... just send an email :p |
| 04:01.03 | dashkal | My biggest design problem right now is actually making forum moderation work in a reasonable manner. open boards will be a pain to moderate ("mods" will have to send out messages telling clients to delete messages). |
| 04:03.36 | Fisker- | :O |
| 04:03.39 | Fisker- | slouken mentioned nurfed |
| 04:03.52 | dashkal | *grins* I am so looking forward to the new combat log |
| 04:04.09 | vhaarr | yeah, just like the fuckers mentioned DBM but not BigWigs at the blizzard dev panel. |
| 04:04.52 | Fisker- | heh |
| 04:05.05 | Fisker- | i told my guild to gtfo with DBM :P |
| 04:05.13 | Fisker- | mostly because it's doing traffic |
| 04:05.21 | Fisker- | why does it need to sync that much? :I |
| 04:05.38 | dashkal | I managed to get mine using BigWigs... or rather they just give me RA and let the warnings do their thing |
| 04:05.43 | Fisker- | Bigwigs only does comm when someone uses tranq i think |
| 04:07.10 | vhaarr | BW syncs, what do you mean? |
| 04:09.26 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 04:09.39 | vhaarr | DBM does a lot more comm than BW, but we still do some. |
| 04:10.00 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 04:10.06 | Fisker- | that's pretty much what i tried to say |
| 04:11.55 | Fisker- | GridLayoutPlus = best addon ever |
| 04:12.00 | *** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 04:12.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 04:12.32 | Fisker- | NYMBIA |
| 04:12.33 | Fisker- | O HAI |
| 04:12.43 | nymbia | yo |
| 04:12.52 | Fisker- | aww |
| 04:12.56 | Fisker- | already fixed for some reason |
| 04:13.06 | nymbia | no u |
| 04:13.16 | Fisker- | no u |
| 04:13.21 | nymbia | :( |
| 04:13.54 | nymbia | 2.4 out yet? |
| 04:14.00 | Fisker- | no |
| 04:14.05 | nymbia | why noy? |
| 04:14.14 | Ellipsis | because you touch yourself at night |
| 04:14.17 | nymbia | s/noy/not/ |
| 04:14.38 | nymbia | fair 'nuff |
| 04:15.24 | nymbia | what else is new |
| 04:15.37 | nymbia | any amazing new addons? |
| 04:16.20 | Fisker- | lol |
| 04:16.26 | Fisker- | just saw i haven't enchanted my bracers |
| 04:16.29 | Fisker- | have had them for ages now :P |
| 04:16.35 | nymbia | terrible |
| 04:18.17 | dylanm | nymbia: Perhaps you would be interested in CRAZY TURKISH MOD http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info8179-SozlukOS.html |
| 04:18.54 | nymbia | what the |
| 04:19.07 | nymbia | that's hectic |
| 04:19.50 | dylanm | Let me know if you figure out what the hell it is. |
| 04:20.04 | dylanm | Besides a dictionary apparently. |
| 04:20.35 | nymbia | "Ace2 forumlar?ndan Xinhuan, Jerry ve Elkano 'a" |
| 04:20.43 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 04:20.50 | nymbia | its on that addon page |
| 04:20.57 | Xinhuan | oh lol |
| 04:21.11 | Xinhuan | all i did was made some replies to his queries |
| 04:21.16 | Xinhuan | that didn't reallyhelp him much LOL |
| 04:21.24 | Xinhuan | [2/5 12:15:35] <@nymbia> any amazing new addons? |
| 04:21.29 | Xinhuan | well there's GatherMate and Routes |
| 04:21.33 | Xinhuan | if you count those |
| 04:21.38 | Xinhuan | as amazing and new |
| 04:21.42 | nymbia | wot they do? |
| 04:21.57 | Xinhuan | Routes performs TSP on your node data from Gatherer/Gathermate/Carto_profs |
| 04:22.03 | Xinhuan | and makes efficient farming routes |
| 04:22.15 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp3.jpg |
| 04:22.18 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 04:22.31 | Xinhuan | that's a non-clustered route |
| 04:22.49 | nymbia | that's pretty hot |
| 04:23.06 | Xinhuan | a clustered route is where i take nodes within X radius of each other and combine them into a single travel point (centroid) |
| 04:23.18 | Xinhuan | so that 650+ish node route becomes closer to 200 nodes |
| 04:23.22 | nymbia | nice |
| 04:23.29 | nymbia | so you can sweep smaller areas |
| 04:23.35 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp5.jpg |
| 04:23.37 | Xinhuan | is the result |
| 04:23.38 | nymbia | instead of the whole zone |
| 04:23.43 | Xinhuan | after applying a 100 yard cluster radius |
| 04:23.53 | nymbia | oh |
| 04:23.56 | nymbia | i get it |
| 04:23.59 | nymbia | that's very cool |
| 04:24.00 | Xinhuan | we draw this route on your minimap as well |
| 04:24.03 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp.jpg |
| 04:24.06 | CIA-9 | 03scorpion * r60358 10GridLayoutPlus/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 04:24.06 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 04:24.06 | CIA-9 | - zhTW update |
| 04:24.10 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 04:24.26 | Xinhuan | with _Waypoints stuff if you want |
| 04:24.32 | nymbia | wow |
| 04:24.47 | nymbia | grabbing that now.. ;) |
| 04:24.53 | *** join/#wowace Vulcanus (n=Vulcanus@216-241-252.231210.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 04:24.56 | Xinhuan | UPCOMING branch feature - http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4c.jpg |
| 04:25.01 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4b.jpg |
| 04:25.10 | Xinhuan | that is my latest algorithm for shading the inside of a polygon |
| 04:25.31 | nymbia | for the clustered routes? |
| 04:25.37 | WobWork | what are you actually displaying in that image? |
| 04:25.38 | Xinhuan | you will soon be able to specify "taboo regions/areas" where nodes inside these regions won't get added to a route |
| 04:25.48 | JoshBorke | i hate tidewalker |
| 04:25.48 | Xinhuan | i merely used IF map as a convenient canvas |
| 04:25.54 | WobWork | oh =) |
| 04:25.55 | kenlyric | dangerously close to 500 days... |
| 04:25.57 | Xinhuan | in my code ;p |
| 04:26.06 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, that SS is about 2 months old |
| 04:26.08 | WobWork | I was searching for significant meaning =) |
| 04:26.09 | Xinhuan | i'm at 497 days now |
| 04:26.48 | Xinhuan | nymbia: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10992.0 |
| 04:26.55 | dashkal | Xinhuan: re: taboo regions. Very nice. The only problem I have with routes right now is caves |
| 04:27.07 | Xinhuan | yes, the plan is to let you specify regions to ignore |
| 04:27.13 | Xinhuan | like caves and netherwing ledge, etc |
| 04:28.39 | Xinhuan | the code to determine whether you're inside or outside a polygon is easy, its more the UI frontend |
| 04:30.34 | *** join/#wowace [Ammo] (n=wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl) |
| 04:31.18 | Xinhuan | the shading wasn't complicated, just a lot of math though >.< |
| 04:31.34 | Xinhuan | good thing computers are good at math! |
| 04:31.39 | dashkal | I don't suppose Cartographer_Mining annotates nodes with weather or not you were indoors does it? |
| 04:31.50 | Xinhuan | dashkal, it definitely doesn't |
| 04:32.17 | Xinhuan | in any case, Routes will work with data from GatherMate, Carto or Gatherer |
| 04:32.20 | Xinhuan | all even all 3 |
| 04:32.36 | Xinhuan | someone might even want to write a plugin to Routes to supply quest data or something to route |
| 04:32.42 | dashkal | I'm using carto_mining + carto_data for my source |
| 04:32.55 | Xinhuan | i recommend you to switch to GatherMate :) |
| 04:32.57 | dashkal | works wonderfully except for the cave issue |
| 04:33.25 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10990.0 Gathermate thread |
| 04:33.34 | dashkal | not even using it as a node-discovery mod anymore (and am tempted to just turn that off). I just use it so carto_data works |
| 04:33.50 | Xinhuan | _data doesn't do anything |
| 04:33.57 | Xinhuan | all it does is overwrite your _Mining db on every login |
| 04:34.08 | Xinhuan | so any new nodes you find always gets overwritten by _Data |
| 04:34.22 | Xinhuan | GatherMate fixes that by only importing when you ask it to |
| 04:34.32 | Xinhuan | with different options |
| 04:35.02 | nymbia | Xinhuan: nice |
| 04:35.17 | Xinhuan | nymbia, wtb ace3 quartz NOW :) |
| 04:35.32 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 04:36.11 | nymbia | i think it mostly works, i just had some bugs in the hooking or something that explode all kinds of crucial game functionality |
| 04:36.22 | *** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@cpe-75-80-152-25.san.res.rr.com) |
| 04:36.49 | dashkal | iirc _data is sourced from wowhead, isn't it? If so I'm fine. I run the wowhead mining mod. |
| 04:36.55 | Xinhuan | you may need to update your core Ace3 files |
| 04:37.01 | Xinhuan | since many things have changed |
| 04:37.09 | nymbia | neat |
| 04:37.11 | Xinhuan | that should fix your errors |
| 04:37.22 | nymbia | there a thread somewhere with core changes? |
| 04:37.26 | nymbia | is it beta now or? |
| 04:37.30 | nymbia | and |
| 04:37.35 | Xinhuan | it entereed beta yesterday |
| 04:37.37 | nymbia | am i asking enough questions? |
| 04:37.45 | dylanm | nymbia: Don't even say the "D" word. |
| 04:37.45 | Xinhuan | so ace3 is on trunk now |
| 04:38.21 | Xinhuan | there's some updates to the aceopt spec such as width="double" width="half" etc |
| 04:38.33 | Xinhuan | so an older version of AceRegistry will choke |
| 04:38.40 | nymbia | dylanm: i don't follow. |
| 04:38.50 | dylanm | nymbia: Documentation. Just a joke. |
| 04:38.52 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 04:38.55 | nymbia | aha! |
| 04:39.17 | Xinhuan | other than that, they are mostly bugfixes |
| 04:39.19 | nymbia | well, i managed the bulk of the conversion without docs |
| 04:39.39 | nymbia | and my lua's almost still up to scratch since i've been using it at work |
| 04:39.56 | *** join/#wowace Kody- (i=kody@c-69-181-2-228.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:39.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 04:41.19 | JoshBorke | holy shit, nymbia is back |
| 04:41.28 | nymbia | where?? |
| 04:41.37 | nymbia | that asshole owes me $20 |
| 04:41.44 | JoshBorke | yea, quartz is fubared, you gotta do a lot of options changes. and i discovered the problem with it hooking stuff badly but that found a bug in acehook-3, so that was good |
| 04:41.53 | nymbia | nice |
| 04:42.09 | *** join/#wowace Spuddly` (n=burp@222-152-97-104.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 04:42.13 | JoshBorke | so yea, fix your shit |
| 04:42.22 | Fisker- | today you'll die nymbia |
| 04:42.24 | JoshBorke | and make it snappy |
| 04:42.24 | nymbia | i had never even poked around with making hooking compat with ace3, so i figured that was the problem |
| 04:42.33 | Fisker- | or i'll kill you |
| 04:42.37 | nymbia | rofl |
| 04:42.51 | Xinhuan | yeah nymbia ;p |
| 04:42.53 | Xinhuan | get on it |
| 04:42.57 | Xinhuan | house moving is over |
| 04:42.58 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 04:43.15 | nymbia | well not quite.. still gotta finish cleaning and moving crap outta the old place |
| 04:43.22 | Xinhuan | oRA and BT4 are both almost complete |
| 04:43.28 | nymbia | but that's no big deal |
| 04:43.30 | Xinhuan | in ace3 that is |
| 04:43.31 | JoshBorke | ora and bt4 both suck |
| 04:43.41 | JoshBorke | ora especially |
| 04:43.46 | Xinhuan | use my bar addon then :) |
| 04:43.50 | Xinhuan | its called IPopBar |
| 04:43.52 | JoshBorke | i'll stick with bongos |
| 04:43.54 | dylanm | Colllld blooded, JB. |
| 04:44.03 | dashkal | progress check since I've been out of touch a few months: How far along is ace3 and how far along are the plans for the svn revamp? |
| 04:44.10 | nymbia | i'm almost wondering if i should start digging through some of these feature request emails i've got for quartz, too... |
| 04:44.21 | Xinhuan | svn revamp: unknown - nothing heard since october promises |
| 04:44.25 | JoshBorke | (11:37:36 PM) Xinhuan: it entereed beta yesterda |
| 04:44.26 | JoshBorke | (11:37:45 PM) Xinhuan: so ace3 is on trunk now |
| 04:44.26 | Ellipsis | pet barrrrrrrrrr |
| 04:44.37 | dylanm | I would not sit around waiting for the svn revamp. |
| 04:44.40 | nymbia | ow, my spleen |
| 04:44.50 | JoshBorke | i would not sit around waiting for the svn revamp |
| 04:44.54 | nymbia | pet bar eh |
| 04:45.08 | JoshBorke | i would not sit around waiting for the svn revamp |
| 04:45.10 | nymbia | Ellipsis: what do those need other than the standard stuff that target/focus have |
| 04:45.11 | JoshBorke | oops |
| 04:45.11 | dashkal | heh, not really waiting, more curious. Had it been done I would have considered asking for space, but as it stands I can wait until I have more than a high level design doc |
| 04:45.19 | Ellipsis | um, nothing really |
| 04:45.28 | nymbia | sounds easy :) |
| 04:45.31 | Ellipsis | it should be |
| 04:45.35 | Ellipsis | which is why you should do it |
| 04:45.42 | Ellipsis | and then receive cookies and possibly sexual favors |
| 04:45.49 | CIA-9 | 03evilelvis 07Ace3 * r60359 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: hook todo |
| 04:45.49 | nymbia | fair enough |
| 04:46.05 | nymbia | holy crap, 60000? |
| 04:46.30 | nymbia | pt still working ok? |
| 04:46.58 | Ellipsis | ooh actually, one thing that might be nice is the ability to display pet's target's name on the cast bar like you can for player |
| 04:47.21 | nymbia | hrm |
| 04:47.25 | nymbia | should be doable |
| 04:47.54 | nymbia | remind me to do that if i don't remember by the time i add the pet bar |
| 04:47.59 | Ellipsis | yessir |
| 04:49.04 | nymbia | as i wreck the dev server with 2 checkouts at the same time.. |
| 04:49.14 | Xinhuan | only? heh |
| 04:49.21 | CIA-9 | 03chuanhsing * r60360 10nQuestLog/locales/ (locales.xml zhTW.lua): nQuestLog: add zhTW.lua |
| 04:49.23 | nymbia | well, they're big ones ;) |
| 04:49.27 | Xinhuan | i do like 3 at a go (but all without externals) |
| 04:49.39 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodg1 (n=Dodge@p5B0099DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:49.40 | nymbia | yeah externals is insane |
| 04:49.43 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r60361 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua Portrait/Portrait.lua): |
| 04:49.43 | CIA-9 | PitBull - initial implementation of vertical bars. |
| 04:49.43 | CIA-9 | - fix some issues with options in metalayout |
| 04:50.29 | dashkal | is there any way (be it in ace or with a known lua pattern) to deterministicly serialize a nested (but not cyclic) table? |
| 04:50.51 | Xinhuan | you can use AceSerializer-3.0 |
| 04:50.55 | JoshBorke | dashkal: AceSerializer-3.0 |
| 04:50.57 | dashkal | sweet |
| 04:51.46 | Xinhuan | dont' read the wiki lol |
| 04:51.51 | Xinhuan | just read the source code directly |
| 04:51.51 | nymbia | haha |
| 04:51.53 | Xinhuan | its fairly small |
| 04:52.14 | Xinhuan | basically, you give the serializer a list of values, or a table, etc, it returns you a string |
| 04:52.37 | Xinhuan | this string is safe for sending across SendAddOnMessage() |
| 04:52.51 | nymbia | clearly need to add more \n's |
| 04:53.10 | dashkal | The purpose is dual: sending with SendAddOnMessage() and for providing fodder for a hashing digest |
| 04:53.19 | nymbia | safe strings are no fun.. always better when you're gambling on disconnects |
| 04:53.35 | dashkal | this is why I'm concerned that it's deterministic[sp?]. I need the same table to hash to the same value |
| 04:53.40 | *** join/#wowace TNZe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.5.getinternet.no) |
| 04:54.11 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 04:54.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 04:54.44 | Xinhuan | the serializer will ignore metatables |
| 04:54.55 | Xinhuan | the serializer will error if the table contains function references, or frames |
| 04:55.09 | Xinhuan | since those are unserializable |
| 04:56.23 | *** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=manila11@adsl-75-4-129-114.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:59.49 | CIA-9 | 03chuanhsing * r60362 10nQuestLog/modules/ (18 files in 9 dirs): nQuestLog: add zhTW.lua |
| 05:00.43 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 05:00.43 | *** join/#wowace Spuddly` (n=burp@222-152-97-104.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 05:00.43 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:00.43 | *** join/#wowace Estil (n=lucretiu@c-24-22-66-58.hsd1.or.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.43 | *** join/#wowace rubik (n=rubik@cpe-76-167-55-89.socal.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.43 | *** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@147.84-49-207.nextgentel.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.44 | *** join/#wowace Teza (n=teza@car75-3-82-226-212-222.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=Ordog@port-87-234-84-67.dynamic.qsc.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace a^i`SmaN (i=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace Garoun (n=Garou@c-98-204-102-167.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace Lopen (n=Lopen@c-68-62-27-3.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace SG|Ensey (i=speedgam@77.66.39.1) |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace Kerafyrm (i=tigr@ip70-181-127-246.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace breser (n=breser@fornix.brain.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace EvilElvis (n=linuxuse@c-68-43-90-171.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace tig (n=tigg@mozart.tf.uni-kiel.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:00.45 | *** join/#wowace Eraos (n=remi@S0106000e0cb95083.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 05:00.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by irc.freenode.net |
| 05:01.07 | *** join/#wowace qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=manila11@adsl-75-4-129-114.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace dashkal (n=chatzill@S0106000476e7af4b.vc.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=chatzill@c-68-54-218-192.hsd1.in.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=Next96@121.129.140.251) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace InSAT (n=marco@host252-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace Ghli (n=chatzill@adsl-64-160-119-61.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace Hell-Razor (n=Hell-Raz@unaffiliated/hell-razor) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#wowace TNSe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.5.getinternet.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace norgs (n=ken@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/Norgs) |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.66.77) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=bawww@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace Lukian (n=wizard@203.171.70.21) |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-157-126-211.owb.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace Forte|Xus (n=xuswow@cp792217-b.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace nomenquis (n=philip@84.119.25.179) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace NivFreak (n=niv@74.85.160.105) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace mjc_ (n=mjc@72-17-187-154.ftl.fdn.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace sdouble (n=sdouble@12.206.92.247) |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace ggilbert (n=ggilbert@cpe-76-167-102-47.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace vithos (n=vithos@unaffiliated/vithos) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace Punkie`afk (i=9266Punk@server1.bouncer4you.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace exor674 (n=dre@linode2a.andreanall.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** join/#wowace thul (n=Cain@gauk.unixgen.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:01.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+ovo Cairenn MentalPower Tem] by irc.freenode.net |
| 05:01.50 | *** join/#wowace sb (n=sb@dslb-084-056-170-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:02.25 | Yssaril | wb all :P |
| 05:03.08 | dashkal | much better :p |
| 05:03.24 | Ellipsis | oh hay nymbia, still around? |
| 05:03.29 | dashkal | hard to annoy people with random questions (there's a point! honest!) when it splits |
| 05:03.30 | nymbia | yeah |
| 05:03.51 | Ellipsis | would you have any issue with someone adding sharedmedia border support to Quartz? |
| 05:04.07 | nymbia | not at all |
| 05:04.39 | Ellipsis | yay, just the answer I was hoping for |
| 05:05.34 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 05:05.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 05:05.57 | nymbia | a little lower and a lot softer |
| 05:08.11 | Yssaril | in an if then else end statement is it less efficient if the more frequently run part is the else part |
| 05:11.33 | dashkal | oh good, neither rock nor ace3 appear to require AceOO or equiv... |
| 05:12.47 | nymbia | that was most of the whole point of rock, iirc |
| 05:13.10 | dashkal | oh how joyous the process of reading up on frameworks and deciding which, if any, are actually useful given my design... |
| 05:13.31 | Ellipsis | you missed an "is" somewhere |
| 05:13.34 | ckknight_ | *thumbs up* |
| 05:14.37 | Arrowmaster | so i thought wow supported unicode but apparently i was wrong |
| 05:14.51 | dashkal | rock looks like it'll be useful for the application modules, but the core itself leans itself for nothing more than a comm library (I really dislike doing comm directly against blizzard code) |
| 05:14.53 | Arrowmaster | did some testing and the only characters i could get to work were extended ascii |
| 05:15.43 | Xinhuan | it could be the font Arrowmaster |
| 05:15.48 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 05:16.05 | Arrowmaster | default chat font is arial narrow |
| 05:16.14 | Xinhuan | then you'll have to convert your unicode heh |
| 05:18.37 | Kivin | Well, after much deliberation, I've determined to roll back my ace3 conversions to rock |
| 05:18.46 | JoshBorke | kivin: good for you |
| 05:19.04 | JoshBorke | i'm glad you took the time to think about it and weighed your options |
| 05:19.15 | JoshBorke | i wish more authors did that |
| 05:19.43 | dashkal | You mean careful design and consideration in addon-development? I thought that was only for professional programmers :) |
| 05:19.45 | Kivin | Well, I've had the wheels spinning for days but not really gained much traction with either. To be honest, I've written a lot more code in both frameworks than I should've without thinking it through |
| 05:20.59 | Kivin | The bottom line is that I wont put any stock in ace3 until it's documented. I'm just not interested enough in mucking about in framework code to learn it's secrets |
| 05:22.22 | JoshBorke | i personally learned by doing |
| 05:22.32 | JoshBorke | i didn't read any of the code |
| 05:22.34 | Ellipsis | I personally learned by doing ckknight_ |
| 05:22.36 | Ellipsis | ...oh wait |
| 05:22.40 | Kivin | x_x |
| 05:22.49 | ckknight_ | sexings |
| 05:22.51 | Kivin | JoshBorke: I never used ace2, so I'm at a decided disadvantage |
| 05:22.52 | Ellipsis | yes master |
| 05:23.20 | JoshBorke | kivin: i never used Ace2, so I was at a decided disadvantage |
| 05:23.31 | Xinhuan | i've written identical addons in both Rock (carto_routes) and Ace3 (routes). I can say that both are similar to each other in terms of capabilities, just that their API is different, and both works |
| 05:23.45 | Kivin | The main difference is the config |
| 05:23.50 | Xinhuan | ace3config is a bit more flexible than rockconfig |
| 05:23.54 | Xinhuan | that's pretty much the main difference |
| 05:23.56 | Xinhuan | between the 2 |
| 05:24.00 | JoshBorke | both work, not works ;-) |
| 05:24.26 | Xinhuan | it took a grand total of 2 days to convert Carto_routes from rock to routes in ace3 |
| 05:24.28 | Ellipsis | hush now, Xinhuan is like chuck norris. if he says it's "works" then it's "works" |
| 05:24.37 | Kivin | I started to port to ace3 for the gui tools. But they remain a mystery to me and I'm not interested enough to learn how to use them until they're properly documented |
| 05:25.16 | Xinhuan | ace3 doesn't really have documentations yet simply because it just entered beta |
| 05:25.23 | Kivin | That's acceptable |
| 05:25.28 | Xinhuan | it will have docs by RC1 |
| 05:25.59 | Kivin | Also, I admit not being able to embed a lot of the framework annoys me |
| 05:26.11 | Kivin | Not a big fan of libstub |
| 05:26.21 | Xinhuan | not sure what that means |
| 05:26.27 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 05:26.30 | Xinhuan | since almost every ace3 lib and rock lib are embeddable |
| 05:26.39 | nymbia | what's not embeddable about libstub? |
| 05:26.44 | Killmore | wtb fubar like in ace3 or ace3 config for fubar |
| 05:27.02 | Kivin | nymbia: I mean having to libstub stuff that wont accept embedding into the addon object. Like AceDB |
| 05:27.10 | JoshBorke | dashkal: mmm, i hope we get nice configs with the new config portion |
| 05:27.14 | Kivin | Dunno... I was juts having a hell of a time with it earlier |
| 05:27.14 | JoshBorke | that'll be a really nice feature imo |
| 05:27.17 | Xinhuan | local a = {}; local b = LibStub("LibRockBlah-1.0"); b:Embed(a) <----- tada embedded lib |
| 05:27.31 | Xinhuan | local a = {}; local b = LibStub("AceBlah-3.0"); b:Embed(a) <----- tada embedded lib |
| 05:27.50 | Xinhuan | identical in function |
| 05:28.11 | dashkal | fortunately for me, I won't actually have to code any config related things for a good while. |
| 05:28.13 | Xinhuan | actually its :embed() in ace3, with a small e |
| 05:28.18 | Xinhuan | or is that ace2 |
| 05:28.20 | Kivin | Dunno. I had at least three ace libraries refuse to embed into my addon object earlier. I don't remember which ones. DB, config and something else/ |
| 05:28.22 | Kivin | ?* |
| 05:28.24 | Arrowmaster | thats ace2 |
| 05:28.38 | Xinhuan | in any case, they are mostly embeddable |
| 05:29.01 | ckknight_ | how does one properly rotate status bar textures? |
| 05:29.28 | JoshBorke | rotate?! o>O |
| 05:30.00 | CIA-9 | 03nymbia * r60363 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (7 files in 7 dirs): LibPeriodicTable-3.1: Automated dataminer update |
| 05:30.04 | dylanm | SetTexCoord is a funnn function. |
| 05:30.29 | dylanm | ckknight_: http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations |
| 05:30.40 | ckknight_ | dylanm: yea, that doesn't seem to be working properly for StatusBar |
| 05:30.47 | dylanm | Oh, that? Balls. |
| 05:30.48 | ckknight_ | well, StatusBar:GetStatusBarTexture() |
| 05:30.57 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 05:30.58 | ckknight_ | JoshBorke: I want vertical bars |
| 05:30.59 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think you could rotate statusbars |
| 05:31.14 | ckknight_ | you can :SetOrientation("VERTICAL") |
| 05:31.24 | ckknight_ | but the texture looks weird then |
| 05:31.39 | JoshBorke | oh, oh, use SetTextureCoord? |
| 05:31.46 | ckknight_ | yea, I tried, doesn't work properly |
| 05:31.47 | dylanm | Well you couuuuulllld just fake all of the StatusBar behavior. I don't even know what StatusBar does with its texture. Maybe there's a way to get it to work... |
| 05:31.53 | ckknight_ | not like normal textures |
| 05:32.04 | ckknight_ | dylanm: that's what I'm thinking of doing |
| 05:32.34 | Tifi | you can write your own statusbar class, which is what i did to get statusbars that fill from right to left |
| 05:32.38 | Xinhuan | dylanm, that wiki link sucks balls |
| 05:32.44 | JoshBorke | Tifi: you did that?! |
| 05:32.46 | JoshBorke | Tifi: share code! |
| 05:32.53 | JoshBorke | Tifi: i started working on that but got tired of it |
| 05:32.56 | dylanm | Xinhuan: Well yeah but I wasn't about to write something up :p |
| 05:33.06 | Xinhuan | i wrote something up, just never wikied it |
| 05:33.09 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: update that page |
| 05:33.14 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: lazy bastard |
| 05:33.50 | Xinhuan | dylanm: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10684.0 |
| 05:33.52 | Xinhuan | try that |
| 05:34.32 | dylanm | ckknight_ pretend I linked that to you. |
| 05:34.43 | JoshBorke | but he said he tried that |
| 05:34.47 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 05:34.56 | Xinhuan | ckknight_'s a better programmer than me anyway ;p |
| 05:35.37 | Kivin | Any of you get... uhh, writers block, but with code? |
| 05:35.48 | Kivin | You know what you want to put down in black and white, but it just doesn't work |
| 05:35.58 | JoshBorke | uh, that's every addon i write |
| 05:36.15 | Kivin | Alright... I don't feel so bad about staring at a blank notepad for the last twenty minutes |
| 05:36.16 | Tifi | JoshBorke, http://pastey.net/81782 how do i get tabs to work? -.- |
| 05:36.26 | JoshBorke | heh, you don't |
| 05:36.27 | JoshBorke | it's a pita |
| 05:36.37 | JoshBorke | well that was easy... |
| 05:37.23 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 05:37.35 | Tifi | not sure if "Same interface as the Blizzard StatusBar" is actually true though ^^ |
| 05:38.46 | Tifi | oh ok if you save it to a file the tabs are restored |
| 05:39.19 | dylanm | ckknight_: Does _anything_ happen when you SetTexCoord? |
| 05:39.27 | dylanm | On the StatusBar texture I mean. |
| 05:39.47 | chiper | is it possible to write a macro that will use whatever health pot you have in your bags, starting with the highest? |
| 05:40.30 | chiper | like, can it be told to skip an item if it isnt present in the bag? |
| 05:40.41 | dylanm | In combat it's a bit dodgy. I think you can still have an addon move stuff around to a certain slot right? |
| 05:40.49 | Xinhuan | chiper, you use a "fallthru macro" for that |
| 05:41.11 | Xinhuan | i.e /cast Super Healing Potion /cast Major Healing Potion /cast Superior Healing Potion |
| 05:41.22 | Xinhuan | if the first works, the second and 3rd fails because of cooldown |
| 05:41.25 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 05:41.47 | chiper | k |
| 05:41.48 | Xinhuan | you can then end that macro with a UIErrorsFrame:Clear() |
| 05:41.58 | Xinhuan | to hide all the red error text |
| 05:41.59 | chiper | ah, ok |
| 05:42.34 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 05:42.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 05:42.52 | Kivin | if I want to return the last element of a table, and remove it, can i do this?: return table.remove(t) |
| 05:43.03 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 05:43.10 | Kivin | lua> t = {"a", "b", "c"} print(table.remove(t)) |
| 05:43.11 | lua_bot | Kivin: c |
| 05:43.14 | Kivin | cool |
| 05:43.15 | Xinhuan | return tremove(t) |
| 05:43.29 | dylanm | Nothing wrong with that. As long as something still wants the reference... |
| 05:43.38 | Kivin | Groovy |
| 05:43.40 | *** join/#wowace sekuyo (n=sekuyo13@c-67-183-209-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:45.59 | *** join/#wowace bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 05:46.17 | chiper | xin: will that fallthrough display the proper icon? it doesnt seem to be working |
| 05:46.27 | Xinhuan | it will not display the proper icon |
| 05:46.34 | Xinhuan | there is no way around this |
| 05:46.40 | Xinhuan | other than to use an addon like Autobar |
| 05:46.46 | chiper | k |
| 05:50.30 | Fisker- | i will hurt you bleeter |
| 05:50.57 | on1y | waht is the quest mod that give you directions and an arrow to where i go for each quest |
| 05:51.09 | *** join/#wowace Shadow00Caster (n=Shadow00@ip68-101-233-98.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 05:51.30 | JoshBorke | questhelper |
| 05:51.43 | JoshBorke | or maybe lightheaded+tomtom? or maybe tomtom+tourguide |
| 05:51.51 | JoshBorke | throw in carto_waypoints for fun |
| 05:51.57 | on1y | kk |
| 05:53.52 | sekuyo | Is there a proper protocol for checking in changes to Babble-Vendor and Cartographer_Vendors? I don't want to break things |
| 05:54.29 | chiper | can anyone recommend a good chat management addon? I mean for channels, not whispers |
| 05:54.42 | bleeter | Fisker-: please? |
| 05:55.24 | chiper | oh, duh, prat |
| 05:56.44 | *** join/#wowace Expiation (i=Corey@cable-216-167-230-227.dyn.personainc.net) |
| 06:03.04 | *** join/#wowace a^i`SmaN (i=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:03.19 | *** join/#wowace vince` (i=vschiu@adsl-76-227-15-244.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:04.14 | *** join/#wowace bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 06:04.47 | *** join/#wowace Orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-96-52-105.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 06:07.50 | Yssaril | in an if then else end statement is it less efficient if the more frequently run part is the else part? |
| 06:08.06 | JoshBorke | it's the same |
| 06:08.22 | Yssaril | k thanks |
| 06:08.24 | JoshBorke | though technically, if you think about what it has to do it's faster if it evaluates to true |
| 06:08.27 | Xinhuan | it is the same if its just if-then-else |
| 06:08.39 | Xinhuan | because it still evaluates the condition exactly once |
| 06:09.35 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia2 (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 06:09.45 | Yssaril | JoshBorke: all i am evaluating is i == 1 |
| 06:09.54 | Tifi | and i believe the default lua compiler inserts a jump even for the true part |
| 06:09.55 | JoshBorke | but by faster i'm talking about one missed branch |
| 06:10.00 | JoshBorke | wel,l nvm then |
| 06:10.04 | Yssaril | :P |
| 06:10.14 | Xinhuan | it still does a jump in the false part |
| 06:10.24 | JoshBorke | it does a jump whether it's true or false |
| 06:10.25 | Xinhuan | so its identical |
| 06:10.27 | JoshBorke | so it's exactlyt he same |
| 06:10.59 | Arrowmaster | if theres no elseif and only one thing to evaluate then it should be the same |
| 06:11.22 | chiper | uhh, hmm, what prat module is it that's altering friend/guild signon/signoff messages? |
| 06:11.24 | JoshBorke | vashj vial down! |
| 06:11.40 | Arrowmaster | and i would say i == 1 is more readable than i ~= 1 so stick with it |
| 06:12.10 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 06:12.38 | Tifi | http://ace.pastey.net/81784 |
| 06:12.40 | JoshBorke | it's better to just unroll it if you REALLY want to get technical |
| 06:12.43 | Tifi | two jumps |
| 06:13.27 | Tifi | and i doubt blizz would optimize the compiler :> |
| 06:14.34 | Yssaril | honestly tifi that made absolutely no sense to me :P but i'll take ur word for it |
| 06:14.35 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc (n=Antiarc@70.184.82.98) |
| 06:14.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 06:14.50 | *** join/#wowace Shadow00Caster (n=Shadow00@ip68-101-233-98.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 06:15.11 | chiper | seriously, I'd really like to know what module is doing this, I've got another addon that already does it better |
| 06:15.17 | Tifi | hm wait, true is two jumps (one from the test to skip the first jump, one to jump after the false part) and false is only one jump |
| 06:15.40 | Tifi | so maybe the else part is actually faster |
| 06:15.49 | CIA-9 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r60364 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua lib/): RaidCast: updated externals, fixed up the casting bars anchoring, made filtering work better |
| 06:17.05 | Yssaril | that doesn't make sense (using common sense that is) imo true should be faster :P |
| 06:17.05 | Tifi | nah maybe not |
| 06:17.58 | Yssaril | so just one jump either way then tifi? stop confusing me |
| 06:18.43 | Tifi | yea i think its the same: true means skip the jump to the else part, but then jump over the else part. false means jump to the else part |
| 06:18.58 | JoshBorke | hm, did you define a and b? |
| 06:19.52 | Tifi | http://www.google.com/search?q=chunkspy |
| 06:20.15 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-181-49.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 06:20.32 | Tifi | chunkspy compiles lua code, and spits out human-readable bytecode |
| 06:22.47 | Tifi | nice toy ^^ and you can learn sth about whats going on under the hood |
| 06:22.48 | Xinhuan | [2/5 14:15:15] <Tifi> hm wait, true is two jumps (one from the test to skip the first jump, one to jump after the false part) and false is only one jump |
| 06:22.57 | Xinhuan | that is not true |
| 06:23.01 | JoshBorke | true is only 1 jump |
| 06:23.03 | Xinhuan | if the test passes, there is no jump |
| 06:23.14 | Xinhuan | to the code to execute, it just falls through |
| 06:23.20 | Xinhuan | then there is a jump to after the false-code |
| 06:23.43 | Tifi | yea but it increments the instruction pointer by 2, so i thought that might count as a jump ^^ |
| 06:23.50 | Xinhuan | that's not a jump |
| 06:23.50 | Tifi | but i guess it doesnt |
| 06:23.58 | Xinhuan | that's just normal progam execution |
| 06:24.07 | Xinhuan | incrementing the PC |
| 06:24.33 | JoshBorke | bb |
| 06:24.36 | JoshBorke | nn rather |
| 06:25.03 | Tifi | but by 2! that has to be slower than an increment by 1! |
| 06:25.11 | Tifi | nvm im tired |
| 06:25.31 | Xinhuan | not true either |
| 06:25.40 | Xinhuan | the CPU knows how much to increment by, based on the opcode |
| 06:27.14 | *** join/#wowace bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 06:27.26 | Xinhuan | "local a = 1; for i = 1, 10 do a = i + 2 end" produces a slightly worse code than "local a = 1; for i = 1, 10 do i = i + 2; a = i end" |
| 06:28.47 | Xinhuan | in the first case, i+2 is evaluated and stored in a temporary register, different from where i is stored. in the second case, the register where i is, is incremented by 2 directly, before copying the value to a. basically a saving of 1 register or stack slot |
| 06:29.04 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=nahh@143.84-49-90.nextgentel.com) |
| 06:29.29 | Arrowmaster | this is one of the reasons i stay clear of programing as a profession |
| 06:29.57 | Xinhuan | in both cases, i's internal value in the loop counter is kept in a separate location maintained by the for-loop |
| 06:30.01 | Xinhuan | so both loops will run 10 times |
| 06:30.31 | Tifi | err do these two snippets even produce the same value for a? |
| 06:30.35 | Xinhuan | yes tifi |
| 06:30.43 | Xinhuan | so although the second case looks worse on paper because it looks like an extra assignment, its actually more efficient |
| 06:30.45 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 06:31.12 | Xinhuan | lua for-loop protects the loop counter |
| 06:31.26 | Xinhuan | by keeping it internally and reassigning on every iteration |
| 06:32.10 | Arrowmaster | ill admit i wouldnt have used the 2nd case |
| 06:32.39 | Arrowmaster | although why did you do local a = 1 for the first instead of just local a |
| 06:32.53 | Xinhuan | nothing, it was just an example |
| 06:32.54 | Arrowmaster | or just local a for either |
| 06:33.12 | chiper | grr, still haven't figured out what part of prat is blocking my signon addon |
| 06:33.28 | Arrowmaster | chiper: whats it do? |
| 06:33.30 | Xinhuan | that's kinda why assembly language is fun, because you can optimize your code if you know it |
| 06:34.07 | Arrowmaster | ill admit, i dont ever want to learn assembly |
| 06:34.25 | Tifi | Xinhuan, i don't believe thats true, the addition opcode in lua is ternary |
| 06:34.31 | Arrowmaster | i hate programing although i enjoy it |
| 06:34.32 | Fisker- | JoshBorke |
| 06:34.38 | Fisker- | what the fuck is raidcast? :O |
| 06:34.57 | Xinhuan | Tifi, the opcode in lua is exactly that - an Lua opcode, interpreted by the lua interpreter |
| 06:35.06 | chiper | I have an addon that alters the friend/guild signon/signoff message to display player level, location, and note. since I installed Prat it's being blocked, the normal text is being drawn instead |
| 06:35.12 | Xinhuan | i'm going even lower down, where the lua opcode is further decompiled into x86 opcodes |
| 06:35.29 | Xinhuan | during runtime |
| 06:35.51 | Arrowmaster | chiper: try adding your addon to prats optdeps and see what happens |
| 06:36.07 | Tifi | mh i thought lua bytecode is interpreted? |
| 06:36.14 | chiper | you mean edit the toc file? |
| 06:36.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:36.20 | Xinhuan | an lua opcode like GETGLOBAL is more like 50 lines of instructions in assembly to lookup a table, get the value |
| 06:36.23 | chiper | k, will try it |
| 06:37.01 | Arrowmaster | 50 lines in assembly? wow |
| 06:37.09 | Xinhuan | i don't know, 50 is just a guess |
| 06:37.14 | Xinhuan | i don't know how getglobal is implemented |
| 06:37.21 | Arrowmaster | i know people that have done much much greater things in less |
| 06:37.31 | Xinhuan | its a table lookup nontheless |
| 06:37.33 | Yssaril | land on the moon? |
| 06:37.45 | chiper | uhg, assembly, I hope I never have to work with that again |
| 06:37.46 | Xinhuan | and table lookups at best are O(n log n) in a binary tree |
| 06:38.07 | Tifi | ok but ADD A B C means 'add whats in register B to whats in register A, then write it in register C'. so i=i+2 and a=i+2 shouldn't be different in execution speed |
| 06:38.08 | Arrowmaster | no i was going to say disable VAC in counterstrike in 3 lines |
| 06:38.21 | Yssaril | lol |
| 06:38.25 | Xinhuan | tifi, that is assuming C is in a register, most often it isn't |
| 06:38.55 | Tifi | you declared it as a local.. |
| 06:39.00 | chiper | does altering a toc file require restarting wow, or is a ui reload sufficient? |
| 06:39.05 | Tifi | so its in a register |
| 06:39.14 | Xinhuan | alright bad example then |
| 06:39.14 | Arrowmaster | chiper: restart wow |
| 06:39.31 | chiper | figures |
| 06:39.47 | *** join/#wowace Ncl8 (n=Ncl8@dsl-tkubras1-ff2dc300-186.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 06:39.53 | Xinhuan | chiper, depends on what is modified |
| 06:39.57 | Xinhuan | in the toc |
| 06:40.09 | Xinhuan | if you modify any of the ## fields, it requires a full restart |
| 06:40.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: ping |
| 06:40.21 | Xinhuan | if you modify the lines that aren't ##, it doesn't require a restart |
| 06:40.21 | Tekkub | what |
| 06:40.30 | chiper | now I need to wait for someone to signoff to see if it worked |
| 06:40.38 | Xinhuan | but wow still needs a restart to recognize new files |
| 06:40.51 | Xinhuan | but if the file already exists, and you merely add the file to the TOC to load it, a /rl will work |
| 06:41.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: I don't suppose you've updated MountMe at all to work with the Druid flight form speed increase trinket? :D |
| 06:41.10 | Tekkub | shad did |
| 06:41.15 | Tekkub | no idea if it works |
| 06:41.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh? is it in your git repo? |
| 06:41.35 | Tekkub | would think so |
| 06:41.49 | NightHawkTheSane | cool, i'll check it out. Thanks :) |
| 06:42.31 | chiper | nope, that didnt fix it |
| 06:44.09 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack (n=Godzmack@157-157-230-51.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 06:45.58 | *** part/#wowace sekuyo (n=sekuyo13@c-67-183-209-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 06:47.26 | *** join/#wowace shingo2 (n=shingo@p5B0559D0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:47.57 | *** join/#wowace Civrock (n=Civrock@24-182-79-054.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 06:50.05 | *** join/#wowace Nefarion (n=chatzill@c-68-43-110-119.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 06:50.29 | Nefarion | who here should i talk to regarding a waterfall GUI issue? |
| 06:50.52 | Nargiddley | whats the issue ? |
| 06:50.55 | Primer | !rating 1588 |
| 06:50.55 | Xinhuan | 1588 rating gives 449(5s), 395(3s) and 341(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 06:51.05 | Nefarion | i'm sure it's been reported, but the dropdowns.. |
| 06:51.43 | Nefarion | when opening one, if you have too many elements in them it will go off the screen, making the loer prt of the list unclickable |
| 06:52.15 | Nefarion | i have the issues with statusbars. i have about double what will fit on my screen, on a large screen with very small scale |
| 06:53.06 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley, there's an issue with the dropdowns in acegui as well, sometimes some of the options appears greyed-out but are still selectable (it appears to be just a graphical issue, where the text color is == disabled color) |
| 06:53.20 | Nargiddley | there is no disabled on dropdowns |
| 06:53.31 | *** join/#wowace kadrahil_ (n=kad@24-158-161-205.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) |
| 06:53.31 | Xinhuan | well i'm not sure why it happens |
| 06:53.39 | Nargiddley | the issue is the tet being behind the backdrop of the pullout from what I can tell |
| 06:53.43 | Nargiddley | *text |
| 06:53.49 | Xinhuan | the issue is there isn't such a backdrop |
| 06:54.36 | Nargiddley | the dropdowns are going to be replaced anyway, it doesnt effect functionality so I havent looked into it too much |
| 06:55.10 | Xinhuan | if it was a backdrop issue soemtimes the text would appear half greyed out and half fully white if it got cut off in half, but that doesn't happen heh |
| 06:55.29 | Nargiddley | theres nothing to cut it in half ? |
| 06:55.37 | Xinhuan | the text |
| 06:55.51 | Yssaril | this new combat log sytem looks great check this out http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43107123291&sid=1#177 |
| 06:55.57 | Xinhuan | could be cut in half by a backdrop from another widget |
| 06:56.06 | Xinhuan | but that wasn't the case |
| 06:56.07 | Nargiddley | its not another widget, its the pullout |
| 06:56.11 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 06:56.15 | Fisker- | i didn't see that earlier |
| 06:56.22 | Nargiddley | which is +100 of so frame levels from the other widgets |
| 06:56.53 | Xinhuan | so the buttons in the pullout wasn't increased maybe? |
| 06:57.04 | Fisker- | it looks awesum |
| 06:57.05 | Fisker- | (kthx) |
| 06:57.06 | Nargiddley | something like that |
| 06:57.19 | Nargiddley | but I havent been able to track it down |
| 06:57.46 | Nargiddley | frame levels is one of the bigger annoyances with the whole system :/ |
| 06:58.34 | Xinhuan | just huge a huge number like 1000 ;p |
| 06:58.48 | Nargiddley | every time the pullout is opened |
| 06:59.08 | Nargiddley | it gets set to widget:GetFrameLevel()+1000, and the lines to the same except +1001 |
| 06:59.09 | chiper | yowza, kudos to Slouken for proper API info |
| 06:59.11 | Nargiddley | it still happens |
| 06:59.20 | *** join/#wowace TNSe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.5.getinternet.no) |
| 06:59.24 | Xinhuan | is there any possibility that the config dialog's strata can be set somehow to go on top of the world map |
| 06:59.37 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@60-241-56-168.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:59.38 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 06:59.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 06:59.40 | Xinhuan | i know FULLSCREEN > DIALOG |
| 06:59.43 | Xinhuan | >.< |
| 07:00.07 | Xinhuan | so if the user doesn't use a map addon that changes the strata of the world map, the aceconfig dialog goes behind the world map |
| 07:00.16 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: do the drop downs in DialogConfig use the blizzard dropdown api stuff? |
| 07:00.17 | Xinhuan | and he can't config his routes |
| 07:00.22 | Nargiddley | Orionshock, no |
| 07:00.24 | Fisker- | 2.4.0 PTR must be so close |
| 07:00.25 | Xinhuan | with the world map open |
| 07:00.26 | Fisker- | i can feel |
| 07:00.28 | Fisker- | it |
| 07:00.31 | Xinhuan | its pretty dumb |
| 07:01.02 | ckknight_ | Xinhuan: why not use FuLLSCREEN_DIALOG? |
| 07:01.23 | Xinhuan | because acegui's config dialog frame isn't controlled by me |
| 07:01.45 | Xinhuan | its an anoymously created-on-demand frame |
| 07:01.51 | Yssaril | on the note of the level of dialogs is there anyway to make 2 open dialogs play nice together Nargiddley ? |
| 07:01.59 | Nargiddley | Yssaril, not easily |
| 07:02.25 | Xinhuan | so the only solution i can see is for me to forcefully lower the strata of the worldmapframe temporarily |
| 07:02.48 | Nargiddley | or I change the AceConfigDialog frames strata |
| 07:02.51 | NightHawkTheSane | So, druid question, in a raid if a mob is bleed immune, is it more worthwhile to just keep shredding, or use ferocioius bite? |
| 07:02.54 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 07:02.56 | Nefarion | can't that potentially cause issues with other frames? |
| 07:03.10 | Nargiddley | only if something wants to be under it |
| 07:03.20 | *** join/#wowace Killmore (n=task@modemcable031.191-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 07:03.21 | Nargiddley | which I dont think is very likely |
| 07:03.32 | Yssaril | ran into it while having both gathermate and routes dialog open at the same time its pretty messy opening 2 or more configs till you move them appart |
| 07:03.36 | Xinhuan | dialog frames are meant to be on top anyway |
| 07:03.37 | Nargiddley | *over it >< |
| 07:04.05 | Xinhuan | although the worldmap itself expected to be on top in the default ui |
| 07:04.18 | Nefarion | how so? if you are moving it down in strata then frames which were and should be under will (could) be moved on top of it. |
| 07:04.33 | Nargiddley | I would be moving it up in strata... |
| 07:04.45 | Nefarion | oh, i'mtalking about the world map |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r60365 10oRA2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-9 | oRA2: |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-9 | zhCN recheck. |
| 07:05.13 | *** join/#wowace xmanii (n=findme@71-213-252-184.spkn.qwest.net) |
| 07:05.23 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley, does your dialog boxes have :toplevel(true)? |
| 07:05.32 | Nargiddley | no |
| 07:05.55 | Xinhuan | because if 2 dialogs overlap each other, then clicking one will bring it above the other one if its true |
| 07:06.01 | Xinhuan | assuming same strata |
| 07:06.20 | Nargiddley | doesn't that tend to creep the frame level up and then break ? |
| 07:06.27 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure |
| 07:06.37 | Nargiddley | I know Ark has alot of probs with something like that |
| 07:06.44 | Yssaril | try it and see what happens? |
| 07:07.01 | Nefarion | i recall a report that frame levels using toplevel were being driven up in the hundreds, and slouken replied that it was fixed, MONTHS ago |
| 07:07.25 | Xinhuan | i think you'll only have issues if you assigned a lot of framelevels directly |
| 07:07.33 | Nefarion | but it could've been due to them creeping up from a bug and not that |
| 07:07.34 | Nargiddley | I do |
| 07:07.58 | Nargiddley | I assign near everything directly, or its breaks badly |
| 07:08.09 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=blubb@pD957F355.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:08.43 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if :toplevel(true) will dynamically reassigning all framelevels of children relatively heh |
| 07:09.14 | Xinhuan | like increase/decrease all children by the same relative amount |
| 07:09.18 | Nefarion | i think it would only make sense that it would |
| 07:09.55 | Nargiddley | well, child:SetParent(parent) parent:SetFrameLevel(10) |
| 07:10.19 | Nargiddley | doesnt move childs level at all |
| 07:10.41 | Nefarion | well yeah you can set the child below like that, but i'd expect all children to *move with* the parents |
| 07:10.58 | Xinhuan | i meant specifically :toplevel(true), if clicking the frame changes the parent's level because of toplevel=true, does its children change too? |
| 07:11.04 | Nefarion | could always test it |
| 07:11.09 | Nargiddley | thats not setting a child below anything, its moving a parent and the child not moving with it |
| 07:11.23 | Nargiddley | and i'm testing that now |
| 07:12.10 | *** join/#wowace ND (n=Miranda@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 07:12.39 | Nargiddley | toplevel seems to work |
| 07:12.43 | *** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@cpc1-brmb4-0-0-cust549.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
| 07:13.26 | Nefarion | it moves the children? |
| 07:13.34 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 07:13.55 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't, your blizzard default bags would be broken |
| 07:14.19 | Nargiddley | blizard default bags arent a big chain of dynamically reparented frames |
| 07:14.27 | Xinhuan | the quartz cast bar frames are on the same level/strata as the blizz bags initially |
| 07:14.35 | Xinhuan | they always overlap weirdly until you click on the bags |
| 07:14.55 | Xinhuan | true |
| 07:15.05 | *** join/#wowace Dwarik_ (n=Dwarik@dhcp-077-250-103-126.chello.nl) |
| 07:15.40 | Nargiddley | I've got a function that fixes frame levels after I reparent |
| 07:16.14 | *** part/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-213-238.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 07:16.16 | Nargiddley | which I was expecting to not play very nice with toplevel, i'll have to play around more to see |
| 07:17.26 | Xinhuan | it should play nice if everything is relative to the root dialog's framelevel |
| 07:17.56 | Nargiddley | yeah, the function just moves children to parents+1 recursively |
| 07:19.21 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=wobin@124-168-148-15.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:19.21 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
| 07:19.51 | *** join/#wowace Cyrez (n=thecyrez@c-24-5-6-64.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:20.25 | Nargiddley | how would someone even open routes config with the world map open ? |
| 07:20.44 | Yssaril | could have it open then open the map :P |
| 07:20.52 | Nargiddley | that closes it... |
| 07:20.55 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 07:21.04 | Yssaril | hmmm keybind? |
| 07:21.11 | *** join/#wowace Zariel (i=zairle@host86-137-27-211.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 07:21.24 | Nargiddley | well at least the action bar keybinds arent working for me with it open |
| 07:22.05 | Nargiddley | neither does bags so I think its grabbing kb focus |
| 07:22.54 | Yssaril | hmm |
| 07:23.44 | *** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=Miranda@217.7.101.202) |
| 07:25.03 | *** join/#wowace Cybot_TM (n=cybot@phpmyadmin/developer/cybotTM) |
| 07:25.57 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_RESULT_CRITICAL = "C"; |
| 07:25.58 | Arrowmaster | [You] [Fireball] Hit [Spider] 64. (C) (5 R) |
| 07:26.04 | Arrowmaster | failure from slouken =( |
| 07:27.01 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-088-076-046-141.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:29.03 | Diao | lol |
| 07:29.08 | Diao | not supposed to have the Hit? |
| 07:29.16 | Arrowmaster | it better not |
| 07:29.20 | Arrowmaster | because that sucks |
| 07:29.29 | *** join/#wowace Health (n=thecooki@c-e11ae655.132-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 07:31.39 | dashkal | looking for the smallest mod possible that can move the tooltip. I don't want to change or otherwise customize it, I just want to move it off of my minimap. |
| 07:32.16 | Kivin | MoveAnything |
| 07:33.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:33.31 | ckknight_ | dashkal: /script GameTooltip:SetScript("OnShow", function(this) this:ClearAllPoints(); this:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", UIParent, "BOTTOMRIGHT", -50, -100) end) |
| 07:33.37 | ckknight_ | :-P |
| 07:33.46 | dashkal | ooo, danke |
| 07:33.51 | ckknight_ | should work |
| 07:33.55 | ckknight_ | don't hold me to it |
| 07:33.56 | Arrowmaster | theres something called lilithtooltipmover or something like that |
| 07:35.00 | Aeyan | lithetooltipdoctor |
| 07:35.14 | Aeyan | err |
| 07:35.15 | Aeyan | Lithe Tooltip Doctor |
| 07:35.17 | Arrowmaster | that sounds like it |
| 07:35.17 | Aeyan | =P |
| 07:36.27 | dashkal | perfect, it's visible to WAU. but I'm gonna try that script first :p |
| 07:36.55 | Aeyan | Script would probably be ideal for just that, hehe |
| 07:37.26 | Arrowmaster | the script would have to be typed everytime |
| 07:37.40 | Arrowmaster | wont presist like an addon |
| 07:38.12 | dashkal | Using MyDebug, IO think it can do the autoload thing |
| 07:38.28 | dashkal | mmm, red box o death on mouseover |
| 07:38.31 | CIA-9 | 03nargiddley 07RC1 * r60366 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/ (8 files): |
| 07:38.31 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceGUI: :SetToplevel(true) for the Frame widget, multiple open windows should play nice together now |
| 07:38.31 | CIA-9 | - Move Frames to the FULLSCREEN_DIALOG strata |
| 07:38.53 | dashkal | my bad... *the button to the right of the m is the one you want, Dashkal* |
| 07:38.55 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@222-152-94-178.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 07:39.15 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 07:39.29 | *** part/#wowace Cybot_TM (n=cybot@phpmyadmin/developer/cybotTM) |
| 07:39.47 | dashkal | Thank you, ckknight_ |
| 07:40.24 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc (n=Antiarc@70.184.82.98) |
| 07:40.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 07:42.26 | dashkal | drat, no it doesn't. But it doesn't take long to write a quick dummy addon that runs that code on the load event |
| 07:43.19 | Arrowmaster | or just try the other addon |
| 07:43.31 | dashkal | *sigh* yeah, but I like the script. one line solution :p |
| 07:43.52 | dashkal | anchored perfectly and growing in the right direction :p |
| 07:44.10 | Aeyan | Well, it's kinda one of those addons that uses Ace for no apparent reason =P |
| 07:44.18 | Aeyan | Though it does it's job just fine |
| 07:44.22 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodg1 (n=Dodge@p5B008EA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:44.32 | dashkal | eh, I have ace already for everything else, so not a real bloat anyway |
| 07:44.34 | Arrowmaster | epp it is |
| 07:44.43 | Arrowmaster | wow this addon is big |
| 07:47.49 | *** join/#wowace DuTempete_ (n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 07:48.15 | dashkal | there we go, ltt did it's job and anchors correctly. I just wanted to be sure it would be BL to BL |
| 07:48.43 | dashkal | Finally, I can see my map with a tooltip up *yay* |
| 07:49.21 | Arrowmaster | you move the minimap to the bottem right corner? |
| 07:49.25 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 07:49.30 | dashkal | *nods* |
| 07:50.14 | dashkal | the whole bottom about the size of the minimap is cut off (shrunk the viewport) into the black space I put al my buttons, autobar, a chat window, omen, and the minimap in there |
| 07:55.51 | *** join/#wowace shingo2 (n=shingo@p5B0559D0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:57.19 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=44195943122&sid=1#191 |
| 07:57.40 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if im overthinking any issues with mindcontrol reguarding the new combatlog |
| 07:59.48 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=nahh@143.84-49-90.nextgentel.com) |
| 07:59.52 | *** join/#wowace xmanii_ (n=findme@71-213-252-184.spkn.qwest.net) |
| 08:00.20 | *** join/#wowace [Liquidor] (n=denras19@fw-tk-1.ruc.dk) |
| 08:00.25 | Arrowmaster | i can see a great new addon being made from the 2.4 combat log though, whos attacked what raid target in the past 10/15 seconds |
| 08:00.59 | Arrowmaster | since the raidicons are showing up as part of the bitfield |
| 08:03.24 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 08:03.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 08:06.52 | Civrock | Wish it'd be possible to target specific raid icons with a macro. |
| 08:09.12 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r60367 10GridStatusTargetName/GridStatusTargetName.lua: |
| 08:09.12 | CIA-9 | GridStatusTargetName: |
| 08:09.12 | CIA-9 | - Petsupport |
| 08:09.12 | CIA-9 | - use Grid CLASS/PET color |
| 08:12.17 | Orionshock | question, what's the max dps macro for hunters? |
| 08:12.49 | Ellipsis | /cast autoshot /afk |
| 08:13.14 | Industrial | no way |
| 08:13.17 | Industrial | Orionshock: depends on spec |
| 08:13.45 | Orionshock | 0/27/34 |
| 08:14.09 | Industrial | hm |
| 08:14.31 | Industrial | I'm BM so I only use auto/steady :P |
| 08:14.33 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r60368 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2: deDE update |
| 08:14.33 | Kivin | you wont reach "max dps" with a macro |
| 08:14.51 | Industrial | s/max/more/ ? |
| 08:14.54 | Kivin | unless you're 40-21 or 41-20 |
| 08:15.01 | Industrial | haha |
| 08:15.35 | Industrial | I should make me a macro with macrosequence that includes trinkets and cd spells ;D |
| 08:16.04 | Kivin | if you're 40+ bm, /cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command /castsequence Steady Shot, !Auto Shot |
| 08:16.14 | Industrial | why ! |
| 08:16.20 | Kivin | why what? |
| 08:16.21 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r60369 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: deDE update |
| 08:16.25 | Industrial | why "!" |
| 08:16.31 | Kivin | no idea, i don't use it |
| 08:16.42 | Industrial | that toggles autoshot auto cast |
| 08:16.48 | Industrial | without its one shot I think ... |
| 08:16.51 | Industrial | or.. the other way around |
| 08:16.52 | Industrial | haha |
| 08:16.56 | Industrial | cant test here :, |
| 08:16.57 | Industrial | :< |
| 08:17.03 | Kivin | I just know that it's what gets used |
| 08:17.19 | Yssaril | it makes sure the subsequent auto shots will not toggle off auto shot |
| 08:17.34 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=evolve@d54C6F09D.access.telenet.be) |
| 08:18.03 | CIA-9 | 03grum 07Taboo * r60370 10Routes/Routes.lua: |
| 08:18.03 | CIA-9 | Routes: |
| 08:18.03 | CIA-9 | - added Routes:EditTaboo - try it with: /run Routes:EditTaboo( testroute ) |
| 08:18.03 | CIA-9 | - very rudimentary, doesn't clean up after itself properly, initial check in as prove of concept |
| 08:18.04 | CIA-9 | - make sure your map is open before using EditTaboo because it draws on the same layer as the other lines (thus gets cleared on opening), also be aware it really changes the route - don't use an existing one you value |
| 08:18.09 | Kivin | cncfanatics: May i ask you a few things about flexbar? |
| 08:18.49 | cncfanatics | Kivin: ofc |
| 08:19.04 | Kivin | Do all your buttons share the same state driver? |
| 08:19.21 | cncfanatics | my code can answer that better then me |
| 08:19.45 | Kivin | >_> I've spent hours looking at your code lately. Nvm if you aren't familiar or interested enough to talk about it |
| 08:19.51 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 08:19.55 | cncfanatics | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua line 22 |
| 08:19.58 | cncfanatics | yes thet do |
| 08:20.01 | cncfanatics | they* |
| 08:20.11 | cncfanatics | why, Kivin ? |
| 08:20.14 | Kivin | Okay, thats what I thought. That made me curious |
| 08:20.24 | Industrial | cncfanatics: so when do we get that script frontend for fb2 that fb1 had that let you wipe and re-set scripts :D? |
| 08:20.25 | Kivin | Because I'm toying with the prospect of writing a barmod |
| 08:20.45 | cncfanatics | Industrial: I'm working on FB3 which will include all that, and more |
| 08:21.12 | Industrial | omagad |
| 08:21.13 | cncfanatics | Kivin: it ain't easy business, trust me :p |
| 08:21.26 | Kivin | cncfanatics: I believe you. It's been hell learning the state driver |
| 08:21.39 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 08:21.57 | Industrial | cncfanatics: its not in branches? |
| 08:22.04 | *** join/#wowace jscinoz (n=jscinoz@124-168-168-182.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:22.18 | Kivin | My proposed implementation involves having buttons that support blizzard's actionIDs, fixed spells/items, and infinite length macros |
| 08:22.21 | cncfanatics | Industrial: not atm |
| 08:22.24 | Industrial | key |
| 08:22.31 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 08:22.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 08:22.44 | *** join/#wowace Ozguli` (n=probli@e83-245-142-211.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 08:22.47 | *** join/#wowace Athrun-- (i=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:22.53 | cncfanatics | why bother supporting actionid's if you're writing something from scratch, Kivin ? |
| 08:22.59 | Industrial | kek |
| 08:23.04 | cncfanatics | and anyway, why do you want to write a bar mod ? :) |
| 08:23.04 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 08:23.06 | Ellipsis | rawr |
| 08:23.20 | Ellipsis | tree sex go! |
| 08:23.27 | Kivin | cncfanatics: Because actionIDs give a cozy layer of support on top of the default buttons |
| 08:23.27 | Industrial | ^________^ |
| 08:23.39 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r60371 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.lua Modules/Characteristics.lua): LibDogTag-2.0 - make it so if you remove the Talent module, Characteristics won't break by lack of better_UnitLevel |
| 08:23.43 | cncfanatics | Kivin: they give a cozy layer of anoyance |
| 08:23.55 | cncfanatics | because your mod cannot live side by side with the blizz interface except with extra coding |
| 08:24.11 | *** join/#wowace Shadowed (n=outlaw@12.157.177.162) |
| 08:24.13 | Kivin | actionIDs are restrictive, but i feel it's better to start with actions and switch individual buttons to fixed stuff |
| 08:24.16 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 08:24.42 | Kivin | TrinityBars2 is very close to the behaviour I want |
| 08:25.14 | Kivin | infinite bars, infinite buttons. buttons default to actions, but can be easily switched to supermacros, spells, items |
| 08:25.41 | *** join/#wowace tardmrr__ (n=tardmrr@68.225.103.101) |
| 08:26.25 | Industrial | Kivin: you have to make all the behaviour of dropping an action, paging, checked stat/highlights, out of range/mana indicator etc |
| 08:26.38 | Industrial | I had a go at some of it last weekend :p pff lotsa work |
| 08:26.44 | Kivin | I have to do that anyways |
| 08:27.01 | Kivin | And I've already got the paging working for stances and modifier keys |
| 08:27.30 | Kivin | OOR/OOM indicators are just changing texture colours |
| 08:29.43 | cncfanatics | Kivin: why doesn't FB2 suffice for your needs ? :o |
| 08:29.47 | cncfanatics | it does pretty much everything |
| 08:30.23 | Kivin | cncfanatics: last time i used it, it had no gui for config. no stance or micro bars, and lacked action ID support |
| 08:30.26 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 08:30.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 08:30.52 | cncfanatics | why would it want actionid support ? |
| 08:31.15 | Kivin | Because ActionIDs are more useful out of the box than fixed types |
| 08:31.30 | *** join/#wowace Fin_ (n=Fin@mimi.instinct.org) |
| 08:31.31 | Kivin | It's nice to log in to a new char and have all my buttons populated |
| 08:32.41 | cncfanatics | true |
| 08:32.48 | cncfanatics | but implementing both actionid'd buttons and non actionid'd buttons in one mod is a pain in the ass |
| 08:32.48 | Kivin | trinitybars2 would suffice if it's GUI didn't suck horrible and maul actually fixed bugs |
| 08:32.54 | Kivin | granted |
| 08:33.12 | *** join/#wowace WobWork (n=WobWork@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:33.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+v WobWork] by ChanServ |
| 08:33.49 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodge (n=Dodge@p5B008EA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:33.59 | *** join/#wowace Primer (n=vi@sh.nu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:34.10 | Kivin | I've already implemented six stance states and three modifier states. I haven't really examined how to add actionID support in an elegant fashion, yet |
| 08:34.22 | *** join/#wowace starlon (n=starlon@melody.lyrical.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:34.33 | *** join/#wowace [Ammo] (n=wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:34.38 | *** join/#wowace jy (n=jy@evr91-4-82-242-125-8.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:34.45 | *** join/#wowace keiss (n=keiss@gw-sitel.spojovaci.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:34.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [Ammo]] by ChanServ |
| 08:35.01 | *** join/#wowace Elynna (n=se_r3x@c-76-101-25-33.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 08:35.48 | Elynna | Does anyone know how to change the font of nameplates and guildnames of players? |
| 08:36.31 | Ellipsis | download the newest ClearFont2 |
| 08:36.53 | *** join/#wowace Kody- (i=kody@c-69-181-2-228.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:36.53 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 08:37.24 | *** join/#wowace CIA-3 (n=CIA@208.69.182.149) |
| 08:37.58 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@adsl-76-234-145-196.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:38.01 | *** join/#wowace |Kev| (n=kismith@doomsong.co.uk) |
| 08:41.43 | Kivin | wewt... I can two season 3 peices in a few hours |
| 08:41.47 | Kivin | purchase two* |
| 08:42.05 | *** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@adsl-76-227-15-244.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:43.18 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 08:43.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 08:43.56 | *** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@adsl-76-227-15-244.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:43.57 | cncfanatics | Kivin: fail |
| 08:44.00 | cncfanatics | arena, meh p |
| 08:44.09 | Kivin | Boo. You sourpuss |
| 08:44.37 | Kivin | You should know that I am terrible at arena and have been waiting for this for a long time :P |
| 08:49.01 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 08:51.58 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 08:51.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 08:55.47 | *** join/#wowace Srosh (n=Srosh@c209039.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:58.57 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 08:59.10 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 09:03.57 | *** join/#wowace dJe781`Aw (n=dje781@ves78-1-89-85-60-113.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 09:09.57 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=blubb@pD957C838.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:10.35 | *** join/#wowace vince` (i=vschiu@adsl-76-227-15-244.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 09:17.01 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 09:17.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 09:21.37 | CIA-3 | 03xinhuan * r60373 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: GatherHud will now honor visibility and filter settings in GatherMate and update them immediately on configuration changes. |
| 09:21.52 | *** join/#wowace Snakerd (n=Snakerd@166.129.31.98) |
| 09:27.38 | *** join/#wowace Spuddly` (n=burp@122-57-242-183.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 09:33.17 | *** part/#wowace netcurse (n=Snakerd@166.129.31.98) |
| 09:38.42 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 09:41.22 | Grum | how can you 'undo' a SetVertexColor? |
| 09:41.43 | Grum | can you simply SetVertexColor(0,0,0,0) ? |
| 09:44.04 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 09:44.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 09:52.16 | Xinhuan | you do SetVertexColor(1, 1, 1, 1) |
| 09:52.21 | Xinhuan | to "undo it" |
| 09:52.24 | Xinhuan | as that is the default |
| 09:52.27 | *** join/#wowace Camci (n=enescamc@c-0d32e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:58.41 | *** join/#wowace DuTempete (n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 10:03.27 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-135-193.student.uu.se) |
| 10:04.58 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 10:09.49 | *** join/#wowace calaveraDeluxe (n=chatzill@85.183.16.97) |
| 10:10.59 | *** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.66.77) |
| 10:17.00 | *** join/#wowace Dezzimal (i=nyoron@207-118-146-89.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 10:19.59 | Orionshock | ahh, what's the focus macro magic :\ |
| 10:23.39 | Twist- | Orionshock: moo? |
| 10:27.37 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodge (n=Dodge@p5B008EA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:27.37 | *** join/#wowace asdf (i=WinNT@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 10:27.48 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-088-076-046-141.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:28.59 | *** join/#wowace Thorgard (n=nogger@c-98-200-178-99.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 10:30.34 | CIA-3 | 03rabbit * r60374 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Cleanups. |
| 10:30.49 | Grum | Orionshock: focus macro magic? |
| 10:31.40 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.28 | SunTsu | Where would be magic in there? |
| 10:32.40 | Orionshock | magic to me :P |
| 10:32.57 | Grum | only do it if you press alt ? |
| 10:33.07 | SunTsu | Orionshock: You just set your focus to the current target if you press alt |
| 10:33.15 | Grum | yup |
| 10:33.25 | Grum | the [mod:alt] is just a filter for 'when to do it' |
| 10:33.30 | SunTsu | I don't see magic amywhere |
| 10:33.37 | SunTsu | anywhere, that is |
| 10:43.39 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 10:45.53 | Hobby | Anyone been trying out wowdb.com ? |
| 10:46.08 | Xinhuan | what is it? |
| 10:46.37 | Civrock | It's like wowhead. |
| 10:46.41 | Hobby | alternative to thott |
| 10:46.45 | Civrock | By Curse. |
| 10:47.23 | Xinhuan | haven't tried it yet |
| 10:47.26 | Hobby | may just be that it's out out there yet, but it's nearly instant here, thott always has a good deal of latency for me |
| 10:47.41 | Xinhuan | what do you think, how good is it? is the search function as good? |
| 10:47.46 | Xinhuan | filters and stuff |
| 10:48.01 | Hobby | yeah search seems damn good on what i've tried |
| 10:48.07 | Hobby | haven't tried anything but items yet |
| 10:48.15 | Xinhuan | one of the best things wowhead did was the searching and the filters |
| 10:49.00 | Xinhuan | and also the comments filtering |
| 10:49.05 | Hobby | http://www.wowdb.com/quest.aspx?id=10320 |
| 10:49.36 | Hobby | i gotta say, the layout for quests and chains is pretty streamlined and minimal |
| 10:49.39 | Civrock | It has everything wowhead does, and a lot more. |
| 10:49.46 | Fisker- | Xinhuan |
| 10:49.53 | Fisker- | have you done a routes for the coins of ancestry? |
| 10:49.55 | Recluse | is there a way to force a /castsequence to *only* reset when the [reset=foo] modifier is satisfied? |
| 10:49.57 | Fisker- | You should since you're keke farmer |
| 10:50.01 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 10:50.33 | Xinhuan | not really Recluse |
| 10:50.52 | Xinhuan | why would you want to do this? |
| 10:51.23 | *** join/#wowace Cyrez (n=thecyrez@c-24-5-6-64.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:51.33 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 10:51.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 10:51.42 | Fisker- | should be easy Xinhuan :P |
| 10:51.47 | Recluse | ie: "/castsequence [reset=12] Rejuvenation, Flight Form" and then stop so you don't kill yourself if you spam it (in-flight heals) |
| 10:52.16 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.114.0) |
| 10:52.24 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 10:52.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 10:52.27 | Xinhuan | unfortunately you can't cast a spell based on a spell's cooldown condition |
| 10:52.32 | Xinhuan | its designed that way |
| 10:52.39 | Hobby | "The new combat log will be coming with two text formats. One is the familiar, grammatically correct sentences with substitutions. The other is a terse format, containing the source, target, spell, action and result" |
| 10:52.41 | sag_ich_nicht | oO |
| 10:52.41 | Grum | god that preview room on wowdb is sick O.o |
| 10:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:52.46 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 10:52.51 | Hobby | i wonder if that means the existing function hooks still work in 2.4 |
| 10:52.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Ellipsis |
| 10:52.52 | purl | wallops Ellipsis with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 10:52.54 | Xinhuan | however what you can do Recluse, is turn off auto-dismount |
| 10:52.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart ckknight |
| 10:52.55 | purl | forces ckknight to use Outlook Express |
| 10:53.00 | Xinhuan | or auto-unshift |
| 10:53.15 | Fisker- | haha |
| 10:53.27 | Fisker- | didn't take a second before i aggroed the guards in moonglade |
| 10:53.39 | Hobby | I know Naturfreund isn't updated Natur Enem Cast Bar for 2.4 :( |
| 10:53.42 | Grum | but its still buggy |
| 10:53.44 | Recluse | well no, i don't want to do it based on the spell lol. just want to cast two things in a sequence and then halt macro from repeating the sequence until 12 seconds have passed since the macro was pressed. no spell based conditions |
| 10:53.45 | Hobby | updating* |
| 10:53.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Hobby: funkeh` said he'd look into updating it |
| 10:54.00 | Grum | Hobby: the filtering is broken on wowdb |
| 10:54.00 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc |
| 10:54.04 | Grum | so that makes it unusable :0 |
| 10:54.14 | Grum | http://www.wowdb.com/search.aspx?browse=1.4.1&filters=14=70;9=5;111=1;185=0#::-1 <-- i clearly selected no PVP items |
| 10:54.16 | Xinhuan | well its just not possible Recluse ;p |
| 10:54.20 | Hobby | I've only played with it for 10 minutes :) |
| 10:54.20 | Grum | and still it returned em |
| 10:54.22 | Recluse | but yes, i can use /cancelform, but it won't make the macro stop lol |
| 10:54.33 | sag_ich_nicht | /stopmacro |
| 10:54.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 10:54.44 | Recluse | this works, just just have to make sure you don't press it again |
| 10:54.46 | Xinhuan | because if its allowed, a lot of "macros" will be possible to be designed based on spell cooldowns |
| 10:54.53 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 10:55.00 | sag_ich_nicht | look into cogwheels addon |
| 10:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | MacroSequence |
| 10:55.03 | Recluse | i don't follow the cooldown idea |
| 10:55.04 | Hobby | Grum: Did you click "Apply Filter" ? |
| 10:55.09 | Grum | yes, try it |
| 10:55.10 | Hobby | Because that works here :) |
| 10:55.11 | Recluse | reset=12 works fine |
| 10:55.13 | Grum | and sort on itemlevel |
| 10:55.17 | Grum | and you will see the belts |
| 10:55.27 | Hobby | nope |
| 10:55.37 | Hobby | must be the click path you took is buggy |
| 10:55.43 | Grum | rrright |
| 10:55.45 | Grum | 'click path' |
| 10:55.48 | Hobby | clicking that link + apply filter removes them |
| 10:56.03 | Hobby | no I mean the bug would be on their side |
| 10:56.08 | Hobby | just only occurs taking a certain path |
| 10:56.14 | Grum | right |
| 10:56.17 | Grum | its plain broken :p |
| 10:56.22 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 10:56.36 | Grum | if i define filters then i expect them to apply when i re-sort the data |
| 10:56.38 | Grum | it doesnt |
| 10:56.40 | Grum | therefor its broken |
| 10:56.42 | Fisker- | i'm going to get all coins |
| 10:56.44 | Grum | therefor its complete crap |
| 10:56.45 | Grum | =D |
| 10:56.48 | Recluse | cogwheel made an addon? o.O |
| 10:56.52 | Fisker- | so i can get revered with "Horde" |
| 10:56.53 | Hobby | How did you get it to break? |
| 10:57.05 | Hobby | I click items, set a filter, apply filter...it works |
| 10:57.10 | Grum | http://www.wowdb.com/search.aspx?browse=1.4.1&filters=14=70;9=5;111=1;185=0 <-- that url |
| 10:57.26 | Grum | that sets it up on my screen with: 'Obtained via PVP' NO |
| 10:57.37 | Hobby | Did you lick "Apply Filter" |
| 10:57.38 | Grum | then you scroll down the list (mine is set @ 100 items per page) and you see items from pvp! |
| 10:57.44 | Grum | no i didn't lick it |
| 10:57.48 | Grum | and yes i did click it |
| 10:58.01 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 10:58.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 10:58.11 | Grum | but why on earth do i have to click it again? |
| 10:58.15 | Grum | they show up ..therefor they should apply |
| 10:58.20 | Hobby | ooo |
| 10:58.25 | Hobby | you're sorting desc |
| 10:58.29 | Hobby | i had it asc and didn't see any |
| 10:58.36 | CIA-3 | 03jerry * r60375 10Grid/GridStatusRange.lua: Grid: theorical (or is it rhetorical ?) bugfix |
| 10:58.37 | Grum | as i said, its broken |
| 10:58.38 | Grum | ;D |
| 10:58.45 | Hobby | yaeh my fault had the sort backwards from you |
| 10:58.52 | Grum | yeah that was my mistake |
| 10:58.56 | Grum | i should have said high->low |
| 10:59.00 | Hobby | and i can't type, so i'm going to go wake up and take a shower for work =P |
| 10:59.05 | Grum | but i kinda figured that would be .. well .. logical ;D |
| 10:59.19 | Hobby | hey i love low items |
| 10:59.21 | Fisker- | anyone know if jerry ever visits irc? |
| 10:59.24 | Hobby | i was just checking them out |
| 10:59.35 | Grum | Fisker-: i also want to get him on irc for a change |
| 10:59.49 | Grum | also the site is kinda .. slowishish |
| 11:00.01 | Grum | but it has potential |
| 11:00.05 | Elkano | Fisker-, never seen him |
| 11:00.12 | Grum | as its just a bloody copy of wowhead O.o |
| 11:00.15 | Hobby | the site's instant here, but thott isn't |
| 11:00.27 | Hobby | probably based on where you are, may not be in a co-lo |
| 11:00.55 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 11:00.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 11:01.04 | sb | wtb new WAU :/ |
| 11:01.12 | Grum | why? |
| 11:01.13 | *** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@adsl-76-227-15-244.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 11:01.21 | Hobby | yaeh it's on level3's backbone....my ISPs main link so it's pretty low latency here, probably not for everyone else |
| 11:01.25 | sb | dont know - it crashes after updating 2 addons |
| 11:01.33 | sb | and doesnt update anything on future starts |
| 11:01.51 | *** join/#wowace Corey (i=Corey@cable-216-167-230-227.dyn.personainc.net) |
| 11:02.04 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 11:02.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 11:03.05 | sb | is WAU2 usable? |
| 11:05.18 | Fisker- | nah |
| 11:05.20 | Fisker- | it's java |
| 11:05.20 | Diao | i've been using it for months |
| 11:05.25 | CIA-3 | 03borlox 07Ace3 * r60376 10CombatDnd/ (. CombatDnd.toc Core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 11:05.25 | CIA-3 | CombatDnd: |
| 11:05.25 | CIA-3 | - added svn:externals |
| 11:05.25 | CIA-3 | - updated toc |
| 11:05.25 | CIA-3 | - the units target and targettarget are checked, when entering combat |
| 11:07.43 | Elkano | hmm... does curse currently have an irc channel? |
| 11:07.57 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110| (i=blubb@pD957FCF9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:08.14 | CIA-3 | 03borlox 07Ace3 * r60377 10CombatDnd/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 11:08.14 | CIA-3 | CombatDnd: |
| 11:08.14 | CIA-3 | - added AceConsole-3.0 to externals and embeds.xml (always forgetting one dependency )-: ) |
| 11:09.49 | sb | hm okay - skip svn working copies caused the problem |
| 11:10.03 | Hobby | Elkano: Yes, #curseweb on Quakenet iirc |
| 11:10.40 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:11.01 | *** join/#wowace Quezacolt (n=chatzill@210.213.159.227) |
| 11:11.59 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=blubb@pD957F0A1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:14.08 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2406047964&postId=27455790065&sid=1#20 ;D |
| 11:14.15 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311057315&sid=1 |
| 11:14.18 | Xinhuan | ROFL |
| 11:15.42 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 11:15.49 | Recluse | Xinhuan: i figured it out. set option to auto-dismount in flight, then sequence reset=12 rejuv, flight form, (claw,)x15. gives me enough time to stop spamming when i go back to flight form like i wanted |
| 11:16.01 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 11:16.12 | Xinhuan | why do you need 15 claws? |
| 11:16.25 | Recluse | so i can spam the macro without coming back out of bird form |
| 11:16.40 | Recluse | just safety, dont' need 15 i'm sure but |
| 11:16.43 | Xinhuan | then you only need 1 claw |
| 11:16.44 | Kivin | buying honor? i hope that's a stupid joke |
| 11:16.52 | Xinhuan | because the cast sequence doesn't advance unless its a successful cast |
| 11:17.04 | Recluse | orly? |
| 11:17.07 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 11:17.31 | *** join/#wowace indibindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:17.42 | Recluse | k - testing. if it un-birds, i'll send repair bill :p |
| 11:17.50 | Xinhuan | test it near the ground silly |
| 11:17.59 | nevcairiel | you can use cog's MacroSequece, it'll advance even if it fails :D |
| 11:18.07 | Recluse | ooo ftw |
| 11:18.11 | Xinhuan | the point is nevcairiel, he doesn't want it to advance |
| 11:18.15 | Xinhuan | also, the castsequence resets 12 seconds AFTER your last button press |
| 11:18.22 | Recluse | right, i wanted a /dev/null at the end |
| 11:18.23 | Xinhuan | so if you press it every 11 seconds, it will never reset |
| 11:18.38 | nevcairiel | are you sure? i thought it resets every 12 seconds |
| 11:18.44 | Xinhuan | yes i am sure |
| 11:18.51 | CIA-3 | 03arkayenro * r60378 10ArkInventory/ (34 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:18.51 | CIA-3 | ArkInventory: |
| 11:18.51 | CIA-3 | - 2.26d |
| 11:18.52 | Recluse | right - 12s cause rejuv lasts that long is why i added that, no sense resetting sooner |
| 11:19.06 | Xinhuan | yes but suppose you cast Rejuv |
| 11:19.08 | Xinhuan | then switch to flight form |
| 11:19.14 | Xinhuan | 10 seconds later, you press the button |
| 11:19.17 | Xinhuan | claw fails |
| 11:19.29 | CIA-3 | 03borlox 07Ace3 * r60379 10CombatDnd/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 11:19.29 | CIA-3 | CombatDnd: |
| 11:19.29 | CIA-3 | - fixed error in embeds.xml |
| 11:19.29 | CIA-3 | - added AceEvent *sigh* |
| 11:19.32 | Xinhuan | in the next 11.9 seconds, you will attempt to cast claw |
| 11:19.36 | Xinhuan | if you press it again |
| 11:19.39 | Recluse | lol - well, yes, but i don't plan on pressing it 10s later, but i understand |
| 11:19.40 | Xinhuan | and ifyou do, that resets the timer |
| 11:19.53 | Xinhuan | to wait another 12 secs before it will reset |
| 11:20.05 | Xinhuan | you can add a conditional modifier to reset it though |
| 11:20.14 | Xinhuan | like if you hold down alt or something |
| 11:20.19 | Recluse | reset=12/shift |
| 11:20.20 | Recluse | yep |
| 11:23.01 | [SW]Dodge | i have a problem with some frames, i have a Cooldown frame (<Cooldown .. inherits="CooldownFrameTemplate" ../>) and an other frame (CreateFrame("Frame", "CoolDownButtonAnchor", UIParent)) the frame is my anchor and if it is displayed i want it to be over the cooldown frame to be better visible |
| 11:23.07 | [SW]Dodge | http://dodgex.servegame.com/frames.jpg <- right how it is, left how i want it(but even if the cooldown just is started) |
| 11:23.10 | [SW]Dodge | someone can help? :) |
| 11:24.37 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 11:25.03 | Xinhuan | not quite understanding you dodge |
| 11:25.07 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84.119.46.41) |
| 11:25.36 | [SW]Dodge | you see the little frame with the arcane explosion texture? |
| 11:25.43 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:26.05 | [SW]Dodge | if a cooldown is runnig it is below the cooldown frame and so not good visible |
| 11:26.20 | CIA-3 | 03borlox * r60380 10CombatDnd/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:26.20 | CIA-3 | CombatDnd: |
| 11:26.20 | CIA-3 | - SVN doesn't like me, so merging by hand... |
| 11:26.20 | CIA-3 | - updated to Ace3 version from branches/CombatDnd/Ace3 |
| 11:26.35 | [SW]Dodge | i want it over it |
| 11:26.45 | Xinhuan | that will depend on how your arcane explosion icon is defined |
| 11:26.49 | [SW]Dodge | that it is visible like in the left part of the picture |
| 11:26.49 | Xinhuan | is it a texture? a frame? |
| 11:27.23 | [SW]Dodge | http://rafb.net/p/yHzOGN92.html |
| 11:28.28 | Xinhuan | so your anchor frame is parented to the button |
| 11:28.42 | Xinhuan | and the button's cooldown frame is also parented to the button |
| 11:28.54 | Xinhuan | since both are parented to the button, |
| 11:29.05 | Xinhuan | for your button to be above the cooldown frame, its framelevel must be higher |
| 11:29.13 | Xinhuan | assuming both are on the same strata |
| 11:29.30 | Xinhuan | alternatively, you should just parent your anchor frame to the cooldown frame |
| 11:30.05 | Xinhuan | no wait, your anchor isn't even parented to the button |
| 11:30.09 | [SW]Dodge | the anchor is not parented to teh button |
| 11:30.34 | Xinhuan | well you have to play with frame levels |
| 11:30.39 | Xinhuan | assuming both are in the same strata |
| 11:30.49 | Xinhuan | the fact that they don't have the same parent just makes things difficult |
| 11:30.55 | Xinhuan | since framelevels can changed dynamically |
| 11:31.01 | Xinhuan | as buttons generally have toplevel=true |
| 11:33.10 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@89.222.156.36) |
| 11:33.38 | CIA-3 | 03nevcairiel * r60381 10HotCandy/HotCandy.toc: HotCandy: add AddonLoader LoD support |
| 11:33.51 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@drms-590d5e68.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 11:34.17 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: the cooldownframes strata is "MEDIUM" |
| 11:34.55 | Xinhuan | i dont' understand what you are trying to do |
| 11:35.05 | Xinhuan | you have a movable anchor |
| 11:35.14 | Xinhuan | that has a wisp icon on it |
| 11:35.27 | Xinhuan | its not related to the button |
| 11:35.29 | Xinhuan | as far as i can tell |
| 11:35.46 | Xinhuan | so just set the framelevel of your anchor higher than the cooldown's frame framelevel |
| 11:37.12 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.45.67) |
| 11:37.54 | [SW]Dodge | ok got it |
| 11:38.15 | [SW]Dodge | Anchorframe:SetFrameStrata("HIGH") |
| 11:38.26 | [SW]Dodge | now its strata is above the cooldown frames strata :D |
| 11:38.46 | [SW]Dodge | thanks for your help :)) |
| 11:40.24 | Xinhuan | that's a hack though |
| 11:40.38 | Xinhuan | because it being on High means that other things can come between your frame and the button's frame |
| 11:40.58 | Xinhuan | Anchorframe:SetFrameStrata(button's cooldownframe:GetFrameLevel() + 1) |
| 11:41.02 | Xinhuan | is generally ok |
| 11:41.07 | Xinhuan | set frame level i mean |
| 11:41.14 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 11:41.19 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=blubb@pD957FB9C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:41.51 | [SW]Dodge | well the problem is that the anchor frame is created frist and teh buttons dynamically later ^^ |
| 11:44.35 | Kivin | Can you not have a generally accepted frame level for your buttons and your anchor frame? |
| 11:44.47 | Kivin | ie anchors are always level 10 and buttons level 5 |
| 11:47.03 | [SW]Dodge | hm |
| 11:47.30 | [SW]Dodge | will buttons level apply on the cooldown frame also? |
| 11:47.37 | *** join/#wowace Lemming2K (n=winblock@port-83-236-58-84.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:47.41 | Lukian | omg, I just through of an awesome bulkmail feature! |
| 11:47.42 | Kivin | the level is inherited by a frame's children, IIRC |
| 11:48.13 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[Work (n=Vegeta-G@p5B07C6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:48.16 | Kivin | if not, you can always manaully set the cooldown frame's level |
| 11:50.27 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 11:50.37 | *** join/#wowace snegoviK (n=sneg@62-31-163-136.cable.ubr11.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 11:51.03 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning Pkekyo| |
| 11:51.31 | Pkekyo| | bah, trying to apply for a job, but the fuckers never answer the phone |
| 11:53.00 | Kivin | weird. I'm creating a bar with 12 buttons inside it. I've validated the bar and buttons are visible and anchored to good places. Yet i can't see them on my screen |
| 11:53.05 | snegoviK | fascinating how the bond between employer and employee builds up :] |
| 11:53.16 | sag_ich_nicht | if you call them "fuckers", it's kinda unlikely that you'll get the job |
| 11:53.27 | [SW]Dodge | Kivin: anchor level: 10 button level5 coodlwonframe :button+1 -> the anchorr is not even visible :E |
| 11:53.29 | *** join/#wowace mort\ (n=mort@BAC27ab.bac.pppool.de) |
| 11:53.52 | Kivin | [SW]Dodge are they on the same strata? |
| 11:55.24 | Grum | Kivin: CreatedBar:Show()? ;D |
| 11:55.32 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 11:55.42 | Kivin | Grum: bar:IsShown() & :IsVisible() = 1, 1 |
| 11:56.01 | Xinhuan | alpha = 0 ;d |
| 11:56.18 | Kivin | GetAlpha = 1 |
| 11:56.21 | Grum | Kivin: GetPoint? |
| 11:56.26 | *** join/#wowace Worf_ (n=worf@77.119.83.138) |
| 11:56.33 | Kivin | "CENTER", <Frame:UIParent> ,"CENTER", 0, 0 |
| 11:56.46 | Grum | are you actually displaying anything ? ;D |
| 11:56.48 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@77.47.55.243) |
| 11:57.10 | Kivin | yeah, twelve "CheckButton" frames which inherit ActionButtonTemplate |
| 11:57.14 | [SW]Dodge | uhm question: is it BAD if i set the Anchors strata to HIGH instead of the default(MEDIUM)? |
| 11:57.29 | Kivin | the anchor and it's children should be the same strata |
| 11:57.29 | [SW]Dodge | if not i'll set it to high and my problem is solved :D |
| 11:57.45 | [SW]Dodge | anchor dont have children |
| 11:57.52 | *** join/#wowace mort_ (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 11:58.23 | *** join/#wowace dabujo (i=xx@p54ACADED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:58.29 | Grum | but do they have some texture orso kivin? :) |
| 11:58.51 | Kivin | Grum: Yes, the buttons in themselves have visible textures straight off the CreateFrame :P |
| 11:58.59 | [SW]Dodge | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.00 | *** join/#wowace piggles (n=piggles@cpc2-seve12-0-0-cust419.popl.cable.ntl.com) |
| 11:59.12 | snegoviK | cladhaire... where are youuuuu |
| 12:00.35 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nichtif you call them "fuckers", it's kinda unlikely that you'll get the job <--- not to their face :p |
| 12:01.49 | Grum | Pkekyo|: tell the phone! |
| 12:02.04 | Pkekyo| | Grum: huh? |
| 12:03.36 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=Next96@121.129.140.43) |
| 12:03.37 | Grum | well, if you get em on the line, dont tell them, tell it to the phone! |
| 12:03.52 | Pkekyo| | right |
| 12:04.01 | Pkekyo| | I'll keep it on IRC for now :) |
| 12:04.05 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 12:05.50 | Kivin | rofl, a logic error is setting my bars to 0 height. that might have something to do with it :P |
| 12:06.58 | [SW]Dodge | *bing* [SW]Dodge vs AddOn : 0 - 1 :( |
| 12:08.05 | *** join/#wowace Worf__ (n=worf@84.119.46.41) |
| 12:08.31 | *** join/#wowace Teza_off (n=teza@car75-5-82-234-126-84.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:10.26 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955FF80.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:10.38 | *** join/#wowace pschriner (n=pschrine@xdsl-81-173-227-110.netcologne.de) |
| 12:10.50 | *** part/#wowace pschriner (n=pschrine@xdsl-81-173-227-110.netcologne.de) |
| 12:10.54 | *** join/#wowace pschriner (n=pschrine@xdsl-81-173-227-110.netcologne.de) |
| 12:14.12 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 12:14.43 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-135-193.student.uu.se) |
| 12:18.37 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 12:20.45 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:24.56 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 12:26.43 | sb | grml - there are 2 things in xperl that are pretty nice and not available as seperate addon :/ |
| 12:27.05 | sb | raid admin (couldnt find anything that works) and casting monitor |
| 12:27.08 | sb | *sigh* :0 |
| 12:28.05 | *** join/#wowace [Horde]Tricksy (i=Numeric_@145.118.72.123) |
| 12:28.12 | *** part/#wowace [Horde]Tricksy (i=Numeric_@145.118.72.123) |
| 12:28.42 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl) |
| 12:29.59 | CIA-3 | 03yleaf * r60382 10Grid/GridLocale-zhCN.lua: Grid: Fix zhCN locale(voice chat has been added today) |
| 12:34.00 | _rane | i put /use <trinket> in a hemorrhage macro and now everytime i use it i get annoying *thump* sound |
| 12:34.05 | _rane | is there a way to get rid of it? |
| 12:35.40 | _rane | i think the sound comes when you try to use an item with a cooldown on |
| 12:35.49 | Xinhuan | you either override that sound file |
| 12:35.59 | Xinhuan | or you put the trnket in a diff macro |
| 12:36.34 | Xinhuan | or add a modifier so the trinket only gets casted when pressed |
| 12:37.05 | _rane | is it possible to override the sound file? |
| 12:40.50 | sb | JoshBorke: RaidCast doesnt do anything - is that correct? :p |
| 12:42.15 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc1-cove9-0-0-cust541.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 12:42.43 | CIA-3 | 03grum 07Taboo * r60383 10Routes/Routes.lua: |
| 12:42.43 | CIA-3 | Routes: |
| 12:42.43 | CIA-3 | - Drycode update of TabooEdit, WARNING will break ^^ (well likely) |
| 12:42.53 | *** join/#wowace Tifi (n=Queequeg@dslb-088-073-064-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:44.11 | _rane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=3740069C10DF73CF9C42F38364C42576?topicId=4064418971&sid=1 |
| 12:44.52 | _rane | now what might be the name of the sound effect.. |
| 12:45.28 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=blubb@pD957CB45.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:52.21 | _rane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=70807415&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 12:52.32 | _rane | here's a solution to my problem but the urls are not working anymore? |
| 12:52.35 | _rane | :( |
| 12:56.43 | Grum | _rane: well you could look in the framexml sourcecode and see which sounds are played |
| 12:56.56 | Grum | or just look @ the client files to see which file is which sound |
| 12:57.15 | _rane | the files are in the .mpq files, right..? |
| 12:57.48 | Grum | yup |
| 12:59.31 | _rane | sounds like awful lot of work |
| 12:59.36 | _rane | to find the correct file |
| 12:59.39 | Grum | you want something, you will work for it :P |
| 12:59.54 | Grum | well not sure how sounds are played, you might be able to hook the function that plays it |
| 13:00.00 | Grum | and extact what 'file' it will play |
| 13:08.37 | *** join/#wowace clad|office (i=jnw@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 13:08.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+v clad|office] by ChanServ |
| 13:10.50 | Recluse | thank goodness it's only a restart. 93.9% done with level 69 lol |
| 13:11.52 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 13:12.59 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@0x57307811.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 13:14.16 | Tifi | AceConfigDialog-3.0: can i somehow get notified when a member of a group is selected? |
| 13:14.49 | JoshBorke | what do you mean? |
| 13:15.14 | JoshBorke | is it a sub group? |
| 13:16.05 | _rane | i can't seem to find a way to open mpq files |
| 13:16.09 | clad|office | your mom is a sub-group |
| 13:16.13 | clad|office | _rane: WinMPQ |
| 13:16.19 | _rane | i just tried that |
| 13:16.30 | _rane | "This file does not contain an MPQ archive." |
| 13:16.36 | Fisker- | mpqedit32 i think it's called |
| 13:16.38 | JoshBorke | clad|office: that's an absolutely correct statement, my mom IS a sub-group |
| 13:16.44 | Fisker- | or get a storm.dll that supports the new format |
| 13:17.08 | Fisker- | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 13:17.17 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 13:17.36 | Tifi | JoshBorke, yea, i guess its a tree widget thats unfolded, so the unfolded entry contains a number of subentries. i want to get notified if one of those subentries is selected |
| 13:17.59 | clad|office | wtb mac software for opening mpq |
| 13:18.17 | JoshBorke | Tifi: : i don't think you can, you'll have to jira it |
| 13:18.24 | Tifi | T_T |
| 13:18.29 | JoshBorke | Tifi: i'm pretty sure there's no corresponding behavior for slash commands |
| 13:18.34 | Higdur | clad|office: there should be I think |
| 13:18.49 | *** join/#wowace Jygga (i=Ordog@port-87-234-84-67.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:18.53 | Higdur | I used to have one when I did starcraft stuff way back in the day |
| 13:18.57 | Xinhuan | you could technical get notified ;p |
| 13:18.59 | [Ammo] | you will need to write your own dialog using raw AceGUI if you want that behaviour, aceconfigdialog will not do it for you. |
| 13:19.11 | Xinhuan | because when an entry gets selected for unfolding |
| 13:19.18 | clad|office | Higdur: I'll have to look for it, I have need for one, especially if ic an do anything commandline with it |
| 13:19.20 | Tifi | JoshBorke, true, but in my case its not needed |
| 13:19.21 | Xinhuan | acegui gets all the "get=" values |
| 13:19.35 | Xinhuan | and your get values can be a function |
| 13:19.37 | Xinhuan | + |
| 13:19.47 | Higdur | clad|office: it was probably for OS 9 though, was before the days of OS X :) |
| 13:20.03 | Higdur | might be updated though, haven't exactly looked for any |
| 13:20.10 | Obelixprim1 | gagorian around? |
| 13:20.12 | Fisker- | how goes oRA3? :O |
| 13:20.26 | Tifi | Xinhuan, thats a good workaround, thank you |
| 13:20.29 | Obelixprim1 | i want to know why drdamage doesn't properly show my spell dmg for low level characters |
| 13:20.47 | clad|office | MPQKit is a Mac OS X Objective-C framework for manipulating MPQ archives. It is the only third-party library that supports signature verification and full support for extended MPQ archives (introduced in The Burning Crusade). |
| 13:20.51 | clad|office | well well well :P |
| 13:21.13 | Higdur | clad|office: I was just about to paste that for you :p |
| 13:22.20 | clad|office | i'll have to play with that later, so i can catch changes to gluexml easier. |
| 13:22.47 | FtH|Daemona | wow, you gotta have seen this: http://www.orschlurch.de/video/eingefrorene-grand-central-station.html |
| 13:25.11 | _rane | anyone know what the sound file is called that is played when trinket is on cooldown and it's used? |
| 13:25.27 | _rane | like, *wooshÄ |
| 13:25.33 | _rane | Ä->* |
| 13:25.37 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 13:26.26 | Grum | FtH|Daemona: lol that one is cool |
| 13:26.29 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 13:26.31 | nevcairiel | amazing |
| 13:27.27 | Grum | brilliant |
| 13:27.35 | Grum | you should do that with 1000 people on an airport :p |
| 13:27.37 | FtH|Daemona | i knew that "McD raiding" stuff where you order like 300 cheeseburger and 500 hamburger.... but THAT was not as amazing as simply freezing for 5 minutes. |
| 13:27.38 | Grum | see if they lock it down |
| 13:28.11 | FtH|Daemona | well grum i would assume Grand Central Station got a similar security concept as any bigger airport |
| 13:28.36 | nevcairiel | airports are more secured |
| 13:28.48 | nevcairiel | international risks and all |
| 13:29.07 | nevcairiel | plus plain + building = bad history .. never heard of a train hitting anything sensitive ^^ |
| 13:29.10 | FtH|Daemona | yeah but do you know how many ppl traverse GCS daily? |
| 13:30.06 | nevcairiel | alot probably :) |
| 13:31.22 | Grum | yeah but why not do it in the checkin area? :P |
| 13:31.59 | *** join/#wowace Guardix (i=martin_j@87.59.120.137) |
| 13:32.21 | Wobin | FtH|Daemona: that's very cool |
| 13:32.26 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=face@pD955FF80.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:33.28 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 13:33.56 | clad|office | lol |
| 13:34.03 | clad|office | http://www.orschlurch.de/video/nerviger-zimmergenosse.html |
| 13:34.07 | FtH|Daemona | just found this on our forums "funny video" thread :) |
| 13:34.10 | Fisker- | it's fail |
| 13:34.26 | *** join/#wowace kadrahil (n=kad@24-158-161-205.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) |
| 13:36.02 | Wobin | http://www.orschlurch.de/video/hang-drum-solo.html is pretty cool |
| 13:36.31 | *** join/#wowace stavmar (n=stavmar@cpe-67-9-165-7.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 13:37.25 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 13:37.29 | Fisker- | therefor it's not cool at all |
| 13:37.45 | Wobin | Well, if your opinion counted at all, that might be a factor |
| 13:37.50 | Wobin | but since it doesn't |
| 13:37.57 | Wobin | it's not |
| 13:39.23 | Hjalte | Parnic: http://ace.pastey.net/81791 |
| 13:40.09 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 13:41.32 | Wobin | can beat your mother with one hand tied behind her back. |
| 13:41.45 | Grum | clad|office: hahaa |
| 13:41.58 | Grum | that big anticipation of when he is getting punched in the nose :D |
| 13:43.59 | Grum | man those one is good as well wobin :) |
| 13:45.14 | *** join/#wowace [Horde]Tricksy (i=Numeric_@145.118.72.123) |
| 13:45.32 | *** join/#wowace Quezacolt (n=chatzill@210.213.160.130) |
| 13:46.20 | Wobin | http://www.orschlurch.de/video/super-mario-theme-am-schlagzeug.html |
| 13:46.28 | Wobin | I like that one, cause it's mad drumming |
| 13:46.50 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-135-193.student.uu.se) |
| 13:47.18 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi (n=kaugummi@2002:4e2f:9603:1:0:0:0:0) |
| 13:47.38 | *** join/#wowace ScoTTie (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) |
| 13:48.15 | Grum | not as impressive tbh |
| 13:48.20 | Grum | hasnt got much to do with mario :p |
| 13:48.24 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:48.28 | Wobin | that's the only problem =P |
| 13:48.47 | Fisker- | fail |
| 13:50.49 | *** part/#wowace [Horde]Tricksy (i=Numeric_@145.118.72.123) |
| 14:01.26 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (n=blubb@pD957F089.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:03.29 | *** join/#wowace EvilJohn- (n=eviljohn@67.110.71.22.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 14:03.41 | Wobin | Oh we all know Fisker- has no taste |
| 14:03.49 | Wobin | so his opinions count for nothing =) |
| 14:04.13 | Fisker- | just like your mother |
| 14:04.34 | Wobin | I often discount my mother's opinions yes |
| 14:04.56 | Wobin | but she could still beat up your mother |
| 14:06.07 | [SW]Dodge | "while i < x do" is the same as "for i, x-1 do"? |
| 14:06.30 | [SW]Dodge | or like "for i, x do" ? |
| 14:06.57 | Grum | neither |
| 14:07.22 | [SW]Dodge | hm |
| 14:07.35 | Grum | while i < x do i=i+1 end would be the same as for i, x-i do end |
| 14:08.00 | [SW]Dodge | x-i? |
| 14:08.14 | Grum | -1 sorry >< |
| 14:08.20 | [SW]Dodge | ah ok :) |
| 14:08.22 | CIA-3 | 03elkano * r60384 10/branches/LibSharedMedia-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:08.22 | CIA-3 | LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 14:08.22 | CIA-3 | - pushing version |
| 14:08.22 | CIA-3 | - updating my code |
| 14:09.35 | Grum | while i <= x do i=i+1 end would be for i,x do end |
| 14:09.44 | Grum | but why use while? :p |
| 14:10.16 | [SW]Dodge | got a code for bubble sort using while |
| 14:10.19 | CIA-3 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r60385 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0 tests/ (5 files): LibSharedMedia-3.0 tests: ...and the test code |
| 14:12.29 | Tifi | is that even valid lua? for i,x do end |
| 14:12.40 | Grum | no |
| 14:12.44 | Tifi | k |
| 14:12.48 | Grum | should be for i=1,x do end |
| 14:13.36 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@72-17-187-154.ftl.fdn.com) |
| 14:15.39 | [SW]Dodge | damn... still not workin >.< |
| 14:16.00 | *** join/#wowace Monztah (n=hamstad@213-65-211-58-no96.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 14:16.17 | Xinhuan | LSM-3.0? |
| 14:16.17 | Forte|Xus | what's faster for detecting a 'prefix' : string.find(msg,"^"..SOMEPREFIX) or strsub(msg,1,strlen(SOMEPREFIX)) == SOMEPREFIX ? |
| 14:16.23 | Forte|Xus | (or a better way) |
| 14:16.25 | Xinhuan | 2.0 was barely out one or two months |
| 14:16.41 | nevcairiel | 2.0 was a dirty and quick hack of 1.0 to work without AceLibrary |
| 14:16.46 | nevcairiel | 3.0 is a clean re-write |
| 14:16.57 | clad|office | Forte|Xus: The second will create a new string, the first will not. |
| 14:17.01 | clad|office | i.e. the first is better |
| 14:17.10 | Forte|Xus | kk :) |
| 14:17.17 | nevcairiel | what can we do if someone claims the library name, ups the major, and releases it, all without talking to the original author Xinhuan :) |
| 14:17.36 | clad|office | who released 2.0? |
| 14:17.37 | clad|office | oh |
| 14:17.37 | clad|office | nvm |
| 14:17.41 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:17.41 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:17.47 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 14:17.47 | Wobin | Who would do a silly thing like that! =) |
| 14:18.03 | clad|office | lol |
| 14:18.14 | clad|office | anyone want to work on this problem sheet for me, its all on fixpoint theory. |
| 14:18.15 | clad|office | go! |
| 14:19.09 | [SW]Dodge | my fckn bubble sort dosnt work /cry |
| 14:19.59 | Elkano | haha :( |
| 14:20.23 | [Ammo] | did wobin just accidently prick his pen through your bubble? |
| 14:20.25 | [Ammo] | damn |
| 14:20.31 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:20.53 | Elkano | dodge what are you coding it for? doesn't table.sort do the job? |
| 14:20.53 | [SW]Dodge | q.q |
| 14:21.40 | [SW]Dodge | i have an arry off buttons with an extra field containing a spellid and im sorting for cooldown remaining |
| 14:22.41 | Tifi | so why not go with table.sort? |
| 14:22.48 | [Ammo] | custom sort func and go |
| 14:23.11 | [Ammo] | check out the oRA2 core I think it has a custom sort for tables on a field in the table |
| 14:23.19 | [Ammo] | using a sort func with table sort |
| 14:23.19 | [SW]Dodge | [Ammo]: im workin aín a custom sort func but it wont sort ._. |
| 14:23.38 | *** join/#wowace shingo (n=shingo@p5B0546B4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:23.55 | Tifi | pastey |
| 14:24.01 | [SW]Dodge | http://rafb.net/p/CphUhW71.html |
| 14:24.08 | Gagorian | Obelixprim1 |
| 14:24.21 | clad|office | [SW]Dodge: what do you need to do with this? |
| 14:24.43 | [SW]Dodge | i want to sortthe buttons for my cooldown buttons addon^^ |
| 14:24.52 | [SW]Dodge | http://dodgex.servegame.com/cdb.jpg :) |
| 14:25.09 | clad|office | and its in an array, with tables |
| 14:25.14 | clad|office | what do you want to sort it by |
| 14:25.50 | [Ammo] | [SW]Dodge: http://ace.pastey.net/81792 |
| 14:26.31 | clad|office | table.sort(buttons, function(a,b) local sa,da = GetSpellCooldown(a.curspell, BOOKTYPE_SPELL); sb,db = GetSpellCooldown(b.curspell, BOOKTYPE_SPELL); ta = (sa + da) - GetTime(); tb = (sb + db) - GetTime(); return ta < tb end) |
| 14:26.34 | [Ammo] | where scrollcontents is a table of tables containing the sortindex thing |
| 14:26.45 | clad|office | that should be close to what you need, {SW |
| 14:27.01 | clad|office | err [SW]Dodge |
| 14:27.10 | [SW]Dodge | clad|office: i'll try it :) |
| 14:27.22 | Tifi | a-GetTime() < b-GetTime() <=> a<b |
| 14:27.47 | clad|office | yes, i just changed what he wrote |
| 14:27.54 | clad|office | ratehr than simplifying in the process and confusing him |
| 14:28.00 | Tifi | ^^ |
| 14:28.02 | clad|office | :P |
| 14:29.47 | Tifi | and you might want to make sb, db local |
| 14:29.54 | clad|office | aye |
| 14:30.02 | sb | yes, make me local! |
| 14:30.04 | clad|office | i expect him to tweak it :P |
| 14:30.04 | [SW]Dodge | yay it seems to work :D:D |
| 14:30.32 | Tifi | lol sb |
| 14:30.34 | [SW]Dodge | Tifi: i made all variables ther local :) |
| 14:30.42 | [SW]Dodge | even sb!! :P |
| 14:30.46 | clad|office | [SW]Dodge: you'll want to make those local, and you can simplify the math, as Tifi said. |
| 14:30.53 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 14:31.32 | [SW]Dodge | i can remove ta and tb and use "return (sa+da) < (sb+db)" :D |
| 14:31.39 | clad|office | yeah |
| 14:31.44 | clad|office | that's how a custom sort function works |
| 14:31.45 | clad|office | :p |
| 14:31.48 | [SW]Dodge | thanks a lot ! :) |
| 14:32.24 | *** join/#wowace ScoTTie (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) |
| 14:34.26 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 14:37.57 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia2 (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 14:40.29 | CIA-3 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r60386 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/ (5 files): LibSharedMedia-3.0: add LibStub, CallBackHandler, toc and xml files |
| 14:42.48 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:42.49 | CIA-3 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r60387 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0 tests/ (4 files): LibSharedMedia-3.0 tests: LibStub and CallbackHandler now loaded from LSM-3.0 directory |
| 14:43.06 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-32-113-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 14:43.53 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84.119.67.194) |
| 14:47.22 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=chatzill@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 14:48.09 | CIA-3 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r60388 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/: removed... see LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 14:50.27 | CIA-3 | 03next96 * r60389 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 14:50.27 | CIA-3 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: |
| 14:50.27 | CIA-3 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:51.03 | *** join/#wowace Expiation (i=Corey@unaffiliated/corey) |
| 14:51.04 | CIA-3 | 03next96 * r60390 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFuLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 14:51.04 | CIA-3 | FuBar_LocationFu : |
| 14:51.04 | CIA-3 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:51.32 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 14:51.47 | *** join/#wowace [W]LANFiRE (i=lanfire@ppp83-237-41-53.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 14:52.59 | *** join/#wowace Teza_off (n=teza@car75-3-82-226-212-222.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:58.52 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@c51470e48.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 14:59.10 | CIA-3 | 03next96 * r60391 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 14:59.10 | CIA-3 | Cartographer_Fishing : |
| 14:59.10 | CIA-3 | - fix external |
| 15:00.59 | *** join/#wowace Acumen|Shaitan (n=Miranda@manz-590cc765.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 15:02.16 | Acumen|Shaitan | hello everybody, i've got a question concerning a macro, is it possible to maken one, that casts shadowbolt and if i get school locked in shadow, by pushing again, casts incinerate? |
| 15:02.26 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace deadlock (n=deadlock@12-214-50-87.client.mchsi.com) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=Miranda@pD95FEBFC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@jak-566.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace kovi (n=kovi@wrzb-590df643.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-112-80.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace dJe781 (n=dje781@ves78-1-89-85-60-113.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x535b3bba.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace gnorlish (n=jaydee@cpe-76-170-71-236.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) |
| 15:02.42 | *** join/#wowace Zarhan (n=kjetil@216-79-202.7003.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 15:06.44 | CIA-3 | 03xinhuan * r60392 10GatherMate/ (4 files in 2 dirs): GatherMate: You may now set the Cleanup Radius (in yards) for the cleanup function for each database. These radius settings are also followed when you find nodes in your travels. |
| 15:09.45 | Acumen|Shaitan | anybody here, who could me? |
| 15:10.36 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:11.41 | SunTsu | Acumen|Shaitan: It's not that easy |
| 15:11.42 | Tifi | i'd say that's not possible |
| 15:11.51 | Acumen|Shaitan | :( |
| 15:12.08 | SunTsu | Acumen|Shaitan: What you can do is use two /castsequence which you can switch by a modifier |
| 15:12.25 | Acumen|Shaitan | so best thing i could do, is to use modifier and push it the manual way? |
| 15:12.42 | Acumen|Shaitan | hm ok SunTsu |
| 15:12.48 | SunTsu | Acumen|Shaitan: Well, you can specify modifiers for a sequence |
| 15:12.53 | Xinhuan | it is not possible to make a macro to choose a spell based on cooldowns |
| 15:13.04 | Acumen|Shaitan | ok |
| 15:13.04 | Xinhuan | castsequences are useless here as well |
| 15:13.11 | Tifi | SunTsu, why a sequence? |
| 15:13.38 | SunTsu | Tifi: Because he is a warlock, which means he will use more than onse spell |
| 15:13.41 | SunTsu | one even |
| 15:13.42 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 15:14.12 | Tifi | but castsequence always sucks :p |
| 15:14.19 | Xinhuan | cast sequences are generally bad since they are often inflexible |
| 15:14.31 | Acumen|Shaitan | ./cast Shadow Bolt(Rank 11) |
| 15:14.31 | Acumen|Shaitan | ./cast [modifier:alt] Incinerate(Rank 2) |
| 15:14.40 | Acumen|Shaitan | so is this the best way i can do it? |
| 15:14.45 | Xinhuan | wrong |
| 15:14.56 | Tifi | . /cast [mod:alt] Incinerate(Rank 2); Shadow Bolt(Rank 11) |
| 15:15.05 | Xinhuan | /cast [mod:alt] Incinerate; Shadow Bolt |
| 15:15.13 | Xinhuan | it uses highest rank by default |
| 15:15.48 | Tifi | however, if you forget to train after respeccing you don't get an error message :p |
| 15:15.56 | Acumen|Shaitan | :) |
| 15:16.11 | Xinhuan | won't be an issue in 2.4 |
| 15:16.25 | Tifi | why is that? |
| 15:16.32 | SunTsu | I prefer getting an error, so I will know I have to train ;) |
| 15:16.34 | *** join/#wowace eth01` (n=foobar@cpc1-stkp3-0-0-cust730.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:16.35 | Acumen|Shaitan | in 2.4 it will be possible or what do you mean Xinhuan? |
| 15:16.36 | Xinhuan | respeccing no longer untrains spellranks |
| 15:16.41 | Xinhuan | in 2.4 |
| 15:16.41 | Acumen|Shaitan | aso^^ |
| 15:16.42 | Acumen|Shaitan | yeah |
| 15:16.44 | SunTsu | Tifi: Because you will keep the spells, once learned |
| 15:16.48 | Tifi | nice |
| 15:16.51 | Xinhuan | so when u respec back, u dont' have to retrain |
| 15:17.12 | Recluse | oh thank god |
| 15:17.22 | Xinhuan | it means you will have the spell in your spellbook, i think, all the time |
| 15:17.26 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 15:17.29 | Xinhuan | but you can't actually cast it without the talent |
| 15:17.41 | EvilJohn- | good chnage |
| 15:17.42 | Xinhuan | it'll have a "talent requirement" for casting it |
| 15:17.52 | Tifi | hmm |
| 15:17.55 | Xinhuan | like reagent requirements for some spells |
| 15:17.55 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Well, that's at least something I will try ;) |
| 15:18.15 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Wouldn't be a too big surprise if they forgot something about it |
| 15:18.33 | Xinhuan | i don't think an obvious mistake like that will pass thru ptr 2.4 |
| 15:18.42 | EvilJohn- | relearning spells multiple times is such a crappy thing to do |
| 15:18.47 | Xinhuan | and if 2.3 took 2.5 months to release, how long do you think 2.4 will take? |
| 15:18.55 | EvilJohn- | three months. |
| 15:18.59 | SunTsu | EvilJohn-: Full ACK. Will make respeccing a lot cheaper |
| 15:19.12 | EvilJohn- | all the great 2.4 changes will be held hostage by the sunwell raid tuning. |
| 15:19.55 | chiper | 2.3 took so long because it was tested over christmas |
| 15:20.00 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodg1 (n=Dodge@p5B00A9E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:20.04 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (n=koaschte@i577A2F3A.versanet.de) |
| 15:20.07 | chiper | things go much faster when you dont have a holiday interrupting the work flow |
| 15:20.36 | SunTsu | .o0( Since when are paid slaves allowed to have holidays? ) |
| 15:20.57 | chiper | heh |
| 15:21.12 | chiper | you're confusing the network team with the developer team |
| 15:21.26 | chiper | network techs arent allowed to even sleep |
| 15:23.46 | SunTsu | They are not? Then why did somebody invent Wake over LAN? |
| 15:24.27 | chiper | lol |
| 15:30.16 | sag_ich_nicht | my brain is stuck, i know the answer but i can't remember it, how do you express that something is part of something mathematically? |
| 15:32.13 | *** join/#wowace InSAT (n=marco@host252-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:32.53 | kenlyric | lunar festival, the best time to get new alliance alts across the sea. |
| 15:33.03 | *** join/#wowace copystring (n=copystri@p548A2396.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:33.51 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht: with the € symbol ? |
| 15:33.54 | cncfanatics | is element of |
| 15:33.57 | CIA-3 | 03xinhuan * r60393 10GatherMate_CartImport/GatherMate_CartImport.lua: |
| 15:33.57 | CIA-3 | GatherMate_CartImport: This addon will now work correctly on non-English game |
| 15:33.57 | CIA-3 | clients. It broke due to the node adding function in Gathermate being changed to |
| 15:33.57 | CIA-3 | no longer reverse or forward lookup zone names due to a internal change in |
| 15:33.57 | CIA-3 | format. |
| 15:34.04 | cncfanatics | or with a c, depending on the context |
| 15:34.25 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: fail |
| 15:37.14 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp21.public.dc.umich.edu) |
| 15:39.09 | *** join/#wowace Vulcanus (n=Vulcanus@216-241-252.231210.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 15:39.13 | *** join/#wowace ScoTTie_ (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) |
| 15:39.14 | *** join/#wowace [Diss]Ano (n=ano@0x55509a8a.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:39.16 | *** join/#wowace kneeki (i=422da932@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-311b0da5a6b84121) |
| 15:39.19 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 15:39.24 | |Snago| | sag_ich_nicht: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_(mathematics)#Notation |
| 15:39.25 | Fisker- | someone spawned eranikus on our server |
| 15:39.32 | CIA-3 | 03ananhaid * r60394 10Violation/ (14 files in 5 dirs): |
| 15:39.32 | CIA-3 | Violation: |
| 15:39.32 | CIA-3 | zhCN update.(and remove personal mark) |
| 15:39.37 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 15:40.22 | Osstia | Eranikus? as in the Sunken Temple dragon? |
| 15:40.24 | nevcairiel | amazingly, that happend to our server on sunday too |
| 15:40.50 | CIA-3 | 03ananhaid * r60395 10Violation_CombatLogRange/Violation_CombatLogRange.lua: |
| 15:40.50 | CIA-3 | Violation_CombatLogRange: |
| 15:40.50 | CIA-3 | zhCN update.(and remove personal mark) |
| 15:40.51 | otravi | John Eranikus! |
| 15:41.04 | nevcairiel | i was doing gruul on my warrior at that time, and the message appeared in chat |
| 15:41.33 | [SW]Dodge | uhm anyone know what is the longest cooldown for spells? |
| 15:41.33 | CIA-3 | 03ananhaid * r60396 10Violation_EffectiveHealing/ (EffectiveHealing.lua Violation_EffectiveHealing.toc): |
| 15:41.33 | CIA-3 | Violation_EffectiveHealing: |
| 15:41.33 | CIA-3 | zhCN update.(and remove personal mark) |
| 15:41.41 | [SW]Dodge | 1hr? |
| 15:42.14 | Osstia | thats the longest spell cooldown I know. I have trinkets with longer though |
| 15:42.54 | [SW]Dodge | and what is the longest cooldown general? 4days for shadowcloth etc? |
| 15:44.13 | nevcairiel | i believe so |
| 15:44.38 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 15:47.40 | genetik | how do most guilds handle quest items like the one from kael'thas? |
| 15:49.04 | nevcairiel | we just bid on them like normal items |
| 15:49.41 | cncfanatics | genetik: they're loot after al |
| 15:49.43 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 15:49.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 15:49.45 | cncfanatics | all* |
| 15:49.46 | sb | yup, normal items |
| 15:49.54 | sb | 254 GP |
| 15:50.00 | genetik | hmm |
| 15:50.22 | Tifi | [SW]Dodge, the jubling egg takes one week to breed |
| 15:50.44 | [SW]Dodge | Tifi: jubling egg? |
| 15:50.46 | Tifi | i believe it's implemented as a normal cd |
| 15:51.04 | genetik | i think what complicates things is that we're starting a new dkp pool for tier 6 content |
| 15:51.09 | Tifi | http://thottbot.com/?i=43464 |
| 15:51.31 | Tifi | its an item though, not an ability |
| 15:51.35 | genetik | so there isn't really any reason to not take the item even if you don't really need it |
| 15:52.14 | cncfanatics | where to get that Tifi ? |
| 15:52.21 | [SW]Dodge | hm |
| 15:52.24 | [SW]Dodge | k^^ |
| 15:52.29 | [SW]Dodge | thx tifi :) |
| 15:52.41 | Tifi | from your guild master if your in my guild... |
| 15:52.53 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 15:53.05 | cncfanatics | Tifi: do I look like in your guild ? :p |
| 15:53.10 | *** join/#wowace calaveraDeluxe (n=calavera@e182079077.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:53.14 | Tifi | ^^ |
| 15:53.17 | Tifi | darkmoon faire |
| 15:53.29 | Tifi | something with beer, cant remember ^^ |
| 15:54.12 | Tifi | http://thottbot.com/v2900211 |
| 15:55.30 | cncfanatics | ty Tifi |
| 15:56.11 | [SW]Dodge | running all the time with you or is it a normal pet? |
| 15:58.36 | Tifi | it becomes a pet as soon as it hatches |
| 15:59.27 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@81-229-140-43-o1124.telia.com) |
| 15:59.52 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodg1 (n=Dodge@p5B009F1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:59.57 | CIA-3 | 03ananhaid * r60397 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhCN.lua: |
| 15:59.57 | CIA-3 | Recount: |
| 15:59.57 | CIA-3 | - zhCN update. |
| 16:00.06 | [SW]Dodg1 | inet disc -.- |
| 16:00.07 | Josh_Borke | it's a pet just like any other |
| 16:00.21 | [SW]Dodg1 | ah ok .) |
| 16:00.44 | *** join/#wowace Ghli__ (n=chatzill@adsl-64-160-119-61.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 16:01.14 | *** join/#wowace Garns (n=blub@muedsl-82-207-222-195.citykom.de) |
| 16:04.41 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 16:07.27 | *** join/#wowace m4rku5 (n=markus@cl-2778.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 16:10.39 | Tifi | AceDB-3.0: is there any way to modify the defaults in a ['*']-table after registering it? |
| 16:11.52 | Tifi | to be more specific: i have a bunch of unitframes, all of which have the same option table layout, and i want the user to be able to change e.g. the default height of the frames |
| 16:12.35 | Grum | look @ Routes, it does something similar without doing what you do |
| 16:12.59 | Grum | and you probably cant |
| 16:13.19 | Grum | AceDB might have a call to retrieve the registered 'template' but you might as well store the variable yourself |
| 16:13.29 | Grum | and alter that table and re-register it again |
| 16:13.39 | Grum | but in either way, its somewhat .. strange :0 |
| 16:17.40 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 16:18.22 | cncfanatics | hmmm, did the darkmoon faire arrive yet ? |
| 16:20.57 | Josh_Borke | it did to my server |
| 16:21.29 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@i209133.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 16:21.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 16:23.44 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 16:27.29 | Fisker- | the cannon thing in shattrath is there atleast |
| 16:27.52 | Fisker- | didn't bother checking terokkar as we all know darkmoon faire is for people who are n00bs |
| 16:28.23 | cncfanatics | I just got my egg :p |
| 16:28.30 | cncfanatics | and Fisker- you're the newb |
| 16:28.52 | Fisker- | no u |
| 16:29.19 | Fisker- | i won |
| 16:30.41 | *** join/#wowace TNSe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.5.getinternet.no) |
| 16:30.45 | *** join/#wowace Poul|Raider (n=jedirc@82.211.215.198) |
| 16:31.12 | cncfanatics | trolls should be kicked :( |
| 16:32.24 | kneeki | !r 1650 |
| 16:32.28 | kneeki | blah |
| 16:32.32 | kneeki | What's the rating thing again? |
| 16:34.14 | Tifi | Grum, ok it somewhat works with reregistering, but you have to pass a new table -.- i.e. deep copy your old defaults, then modify them, then call RegisterDefaults |
| 16:34.37 | Tifi | just because removeDefaults isnt exposed |
| 16:34.57 | Grum | what if you use the other old table? :) |
| 16:35.29 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:36.51 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@port114.ds1-hj.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:37.23 | *** join/#wowace Merl_ (n=chatzill@93.80-202-243.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:37.26 | Tifi | http://ace.pastey.net/81801 |
| 16:37.46 | Tifi | doesnt work because the old table is used for removeDefaults |
| 16:37.49 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 16:38.18 | Grum | lame shit >< |
| 16:41.40 | Tifi | nevcairiel, any chance to expose removeDefaults in AceDB-3.0 to the API? (or whoever maintains that) |
| 16:42.21 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.2) |
| 16:42.30 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 16:42.43 | *** join/#wowace asdf (i=WinNT@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:43.37 | *** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@179.59.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 16:46.32 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:47.08 | [Ammo] | you're only supposed to register defaults once. They are code only, if you want something like that you'll have to write something yourelf |
| 16:47.28 | [Ammo] | if I get you correctly you want to register new defaults runtime and have all your tables update again |
| 16:47.33 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 16:47.43 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 16:48.54 | *** join/#wowace ggilbert (n=ggilbert@cpe-76-167-102-47.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 16:50.22 | Tifi | well either that or have a way of creating ['*'] entries that don't use rawset(t, k, tbl) |
| 16:50.28 | sag_ich_nicht | |Snago|: thanks |
| 16:51.01 | [Ammo] | you're not supposed to register new defaults after initializing the DB |
| 16:51.14 | [Ammo] | but jira it |
| 16:52.11 | Bruners | what was the arena points command again? |
| 16:53.38 | Tifi | oh i got a stupid way to work around this: register nil as the default, change the default table, then reregister it :> |
| 16:53.44 | Osstia | !points 1500 |
| 16:53.45 | Xinhuan | 1500 arena points require 2963(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 16:53.50 | Osstia | !points 250 |
| 16:53.51 | Xinhuan | 250 arena points require 1073(5s), 1228(3s) and 1432(2s) team rating. |
| 16:53.55 | Osstia | !rating 1500 |
| 16:53.56 | Xinhuan | 1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 16:55.21 | Grum | lua> t={1,2,3,4}; print(t) |
| 16:55.21 | lua_bot | Grum: { 1, 2, 3, 4 } (#1) |
| 16:55.36 | Grum | lua> t={1,2,3,4}; tinsert(t, 9, 2); print(t) |
| 16:55.36 | lua_bot | Grum: { 1, 2, 3, 4, [9] = 2 } (#1) |
| 16:55.53 | Grum | lua> t={1,2,3,4}; tinsert(t, 2, 9); print(t) |
| 16:55.53 | lua_bot | Grum: { 1, 9, 2, 3, 4 } (#1) |
| 16:56.12 | *** join/#wowace moonsorrow (n=moonsorr@HSI-KBW-078-042-053-180.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 16:56.20 | Grum | meh |
| 16:56.27 | CIA-3 | 03diablohu * r60398 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 16:56.27 | CIA-3 | AtlasLoot: |
| 16:56.27 | CIA-3 | - zhCN update |
| 16:57.34 | *** join/#wowace xyu (i=WinNT@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:57.35 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:57.44 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodg1 (n=Dodge@p5B009FEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:04.05 | *** join/#wowace Zariel (i=zairle@host86-137-27-211.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:05.31 | *** join/#wowace Kody- (n=nope@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:05.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 17:06.32 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@s5591207c.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 17:07.48 | Bruners | ckknight: are you going to add to cartographer so that you can report people from the map? |
| 17:08.00 | ckknight | report |
| 17:08.02 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:08.11 | Bruners | in battlegrounds |
| 17:08.18 | Bruners | report players afk |
| 17:08.38 | Bruners | it is possible with the standard map iirc |
| 17:08.49 | Tifi | o.O |
| 17:08.55 | Bruners | open map right click on people standing in the cave and report them all |
| 17:09.29 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi (n=kaugummi@2002:4e2f:9603:1:0:0:0:0) |
| 17:09.55 | *** join/#wowace WyriHaximus13th (n=jezussie@i131220.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 17:10.37 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 17:11.30 | *** join/#wowace kagaro (n=washu@12.38.10.178) |
| 17:13.29 | CIA-3 | 03ckknight * r60399 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't enable addons if the user doesn't want them enabled |
| 17:15.13 | kagaro | !c us ysera moonfann |
| 17:15.16 | ThraeBot | kagaro: Moonfann, Level 70 Draenei Priest (14/0/47). 8101 HP; 8850 Mana; 130 mana regen; 39 mp5; 154 spell crit; 56 spell hit; 840 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1073); 284 shadow dmg (1124); 5.10% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1085 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw6wx4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38lh7j ][ Updated: Tue Feb 5 12:24:06 2008 EST ]] |
| 17:16.44 | Fin | our Darkmoon Faire hasn't arrived apparently |
| 17:16.53 | Fin | is it late for anyone else? |
| 17:19.48 | Hjalte | Fin: Did you look in terokkar forrest? |
| 17:21.42 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 17:25.25 | *** join/#wowace Byrdee (n=Byrdee@208.53.56.35) |
| 17:25.51 | Fin | Hjalte: that's where it's meant to be this time, yep |
| 17:26.09 | Fin | I haven't checked myself whether it's actually not appeared, it might just be my guildmate being fick, but that's what someone said |
| 17:28.44 | CIA-3 | 03peragor * r60400 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 17:28.44 | CIA-3 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 17:28.44 | CIA-3 | - Removed some unnecessary Layouts (35/30/20). With pets/nopets, tanks/notanks, and sorted class layouts, it was filling up the raid layout menu too much. |
| 17:28.45 | CIA-3 | - Fixed the auto main tank support to work properly with both oRA and Blizzard tanks. I have not tested CTRA tanks, and I'm not sure if it's important to keep it in untested. For now I will leave it. |
| 17:29.29 | *** join/#wowace Elsia (i=Elsia_RO@p57A247D2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:29.49 | Elsia | heya |
| 17:30.05 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:30.44 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 17:30.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 17:30.50 | Hjalte | Hello Elsia |
| 17:31.00 | Hjalte | You're the recount guy, yeah? |
| 17:31.51 | Elsia | well I'm kind of the backup guy in a sense, but yeah |
| 17:32.04 | Kirkburn | Btw, anyone who wants a newsfeed channel for wow (and some general gaming) stuff, Dotted has set up a channel called #newsspam ... you're welcome to idle. (We use the bot on #wowwiki) |
| 17:32.17 | Hjalte | Cryect doesn't seem to do much active programming on it anyway at the moment :) |
| 17:32.25 | Dotted | JESUS CHRIST ITS KIRKBURN, GET IN THE CAR |
| 17:32.40 | Kirkburn | Godammit, you're here too? |
| 17:32.44 | Elsia | well he did commit a new feature not too long ago :D |
| 17:32.45 | Kirkburn | Dotted, are you stalking me? |
| 17:32.56 | Dotted | i have been in here since forever :P |
| 17:33.22 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 17:33.54 | Hjalte | Elsia: How's it going with getting Recount to save fights? |
| 17:33.56 | Ellipsis | rawr~ |
| 17:34.17 | *** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@cpc1-brmb4-0-0-cust549.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
| 17:34.28 | Elsia | well, I haven't started yet... currently in the works is autodelete when entering instances, and when joining groups/raids |
| 17:34.47 | chiper | good, I care about that more :) |
| 17:34.49 | Hjalte | Elsia: That's a good one too :) |
| 17:35.00 | chiper | I keep forgetting to reset manually |
| 17:35.08 | Elsia | been kind of sick, wanted to put these out last weekend but the darn flu got me |
| 17:35.21 | Ellipsis | that's what you get for stalking me |
| 17:37.13 | Elsia | frankly I'm more concerned about getting data usage down than up currently, the save feature will bloat loads, but it's up to people to handle that I suppose |
| 17:38.00 | Stanzilla | Elsia: you're german? :P |
| 17:38.12 | Elsia | Not exactly ;) |
| 17:38.28 | Elsia | americans use "gesundheit" too thanks to jewish immigrants ;) |
| 17:38.37 | Stanzilla | lol ok |
| 17:38.42 | Elsia | but i'm not american :D |
| 17:38.48 | Hjalte | Elsia: What about the sync amount - I tried looking at the numbers through recount yesterday, and everyone with recount sent 3x-4x more data than other people, who had eg. sw_stats and such. |
| 17:39.09 | Elsia | the sync thing is horrifying really |
| 17:39.26 | Elsia | but I don't plan to touch it until after the 2.4 transition is completed because it may change a lot of things |
| 17:39.32 | Kirkburn | chiper, bloody Dotted made it a voiced-only channel :P |
| 17:39.47 | chiper | which, newsspam? |
| 17:40.05 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 17:40.06 | Dotted | how the hell would you manage to discuss something in there with all that spam? |
| 17:40.21 | Kirkburn | heh, I was just going to say "hello" :P |
| 17:40.21 | chiper | eh, I dont care, you said it was for idling |
| 17:40.48 | CIA-3 | 03rabbit * r60401 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Attempt to fix invalid key to 'next' error + some cleanup. |
| 17:41.15 | Dotted | Kirkburn -m now |
| 17:41.19 | Dotted | just for you :P |
| 17:41.21 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 17:41.36 | Kirkburn | I'm not going to now, just to spite you ;P |
| 17:41.43 | Amadeo | -m is the moo command |
| 17:43.27 | Elsia | the true solution to sync is a lib actually that only uses parser or whatever is the new parser, so damagemeters can interoperate, also the old sync paradigm (just send what you got) may be worth reconsidering for something more "lazy" |
| 17:44.25 | Elsia | massive mid-combat comm traffic is really what kills recount sync atm. Offloading that traffic after combat may be smart. |
| 17:45.16 | Bruners | !rating 1482 |
| 17:45.17 | Xinhuan | 1482 rating gives 340(5s), 299(3s) and 258(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 17:45.26 | *** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@cpc1-brmb4-0-0-cust549.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
| 17:45.51 | Bruners | !rating 310 |
| 17:45.52 | Xinhuan | 310 rating gives 82(5s), 72(3s) and 62(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 17:45.59 | Bruners | !points 310 |
| 17:46.00 | Xinhuan | 310 arena points require 1346(5s), 1508(3s) and 1556(2s) team rating. |
| 17:46.02 | Elsia | !stalkers Ellipsis |
| 17:46.02 | CIA-3 | 03rabbit * r60402 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Bugfix for users without babble-boss. |
| 17:46.13 | Elsia | hmm it's broken :P |
| 17:47.27 | Bruners | !points 311 |
| 17:47.28 | Xinhuan | 311 arena points require 1350(5s), 1509(3s) and 1557(2s) team rating. |
| 17:50.01 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-025-249.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:50.12 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack (n=Godzmack@157-157-230-51.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 17:51.34 | Ellipsis | ~stalk Elsia |
| 17:51.34 | purl | ACTION furtively infiltrates Elsia's shadows and when Elsia is turned away jumps out to take a picture with his camera phone! |
| 17:52.44 | Elsia | ~stalk Ellipsis |
| 17:52.45 | purl | ACTION furtively infiltrates Ellipsis's shadows and when Ellipsis is turned away jumps out to take a picture with his camera phone! |
| 17:52.47 | Elsia | yay |
| 17:52.49 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=nnscript@host86-132-230-127.range86-132.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:53.06 | Daemona | any1 here playing on a pve realm here? |
| 17:53.14 | Elsia | sure |
| 17:53.21 | vithos | yeah |
| 17:53.31 | Daemona | are there guards at the darkmoon faire outside shattrath? |
| 17:53.47 | CIA-3 | 03nevcairiel * r60403 10GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: update map zone when worldmap is hidden |
| 17:53.53 | vithos | logging in now |
| 17:55.25 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@77.47.55.243) |
| 17:55.36 | CIA-3 | 03ckknight * r60404 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - add back in auto-bracketing system. Should work for all cases now. |
| 17:56.08 | vithos | there's several Darkmoon Faire Carnie walking around with brooms |
| 17:57.35 | Daemona | i've been corpse camped for 3 hours straight on my pvp server, complained to a gm, he told me to transfer to a pve server, wouldnt happen there... TT |
| 17:57.49 | m4rku5 | rofl |
| 17:57.58 | Daemona | i guess thats rather due to not being pvp flagged not cause of guards.... |
| 17:57.59 | kenlyric | so you waited there three hours? |
| 17:58.14 | CIA-3 | 03ckknight * r60405 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - remove debug lines |
| 17:58.18 | Daemona | no, i am trying to restock on agi/str scrolls |
| 17:58.25 | phyber | ckknight_: what separator do you have to use instead of ! now? |
| 17:58.27 | Daemona | and the faire has the only vendor selling em |
| 17:58.44 | ckknight_ | phyber: ! means else, to be used in correlation with ? |
| 17:58.51 | ckknight_ | phyber: do you mean to do an or? |
| 17:59.03 | phyber | ckknight_: no idea, I'll get the line that I'm using that worked before, but now doesn't. |
| 17:59.05 | ckknight_ | phyber: that's | |
| 17:59.18 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 17:59.29 | Cartas | Hi CKKnight_, old chap! |
| 17:59.36 | ckknight_ | howdy, Cartas |
| 17:59.36 | phyber | ckknight_: oooo, nice colouring in the LineEdit thing for Cowtip. haven't looked in this for a while ;) |
| 17:59.48 | phyber | [IsPlayer#mouseovertarget ? IsUnit#player(MouseOverTarget) ? Text(<<YOU>>):White ! Target:ClassColor#mouseovertarget ! Target:White#mouseovertarget] |
| 17:59.58 | phyber | so, ! = | now? |
| 18:00.11 | phyber | actually, sorry |
| 18:00.13 | phyber | that's not the line |
| 18:00.19 | phyber | [GuildRank ! Yellow] |
| 18:00.39 | *** join/#wowace dashkal (n=chatzill@S01060016b61d03a0.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 18:01.00 | ckknight | phyber: you were using ! very wrong previously |
| 18:01.13 | ckknight | ! means something else |
| 18:01.17 | phyber | ckknight: ah, well, I copied it from some forum thread. doesn't surprise me. it worked so i didn't question it ;) |
| 18:01.37 | ckknight | use |, I guess |
| 18:01.59 | *** join/#wowace echos_ (n=gmarshal@99.166.17.114) |
| 18:02.11 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:02.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 18:02.26 | phyber | got it. [GuildRank:Yellow] to make the text yellow. |
| 18:03.05 | Ellipsis | condition?true!false |
| 18:03.11 | Ellipsis | tag|othertag |
| 18:03.14 | Ellipsis | tag:modifier |
| 18:04.05 | ckknight | phyber: dude, there's ingame documentation describing all this |
| 18:05.10 | phyber | yeah, i see it above the line edit thing now. |
| 18:05.15 | Zariel | why will it not allow me to check if not db[realm][name] ? |
| 18:05.49 | Zariel | it saying its a nil value tho should the if not allow it to be false or nil? |
| 18:06.07 | CIA-3 | 03nevcairiel * r60406 10Mapster/Mapster.lua: Mapster: update the worldmaps when changing zone |
| 18:06.10 | ckknight | Zariel: if db[realm] is nil... |
| 18:06.13 | Ellipsis | if db[realm] is nil then you can't index into it to check for [name] |
| 18:06.59 | Elsia | ~stalk SunTsu |
| 18:06.59 | purl | ACTION furtively infiltrates SunTsu's shadows and when SunTsu is turned away jumps out to take a picture with his camera phone! |
| 18:07.10 | *** join/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-181-49.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 18:07.34 | Amadeo | Do any of the Video options affect how far you can see an enemy player or NPC? |
| 18:07.46 | ckknight | nah, always 100 yd |
| 18:08.06 | Amadeo | People always see me first, must just be my slow PC |
| 18:08.11 | Osstia | There is a setting that controls targeting at a greater distance though isn't there? |
| 18:08.23 | ckknight | in the combat log, Osstia |
| 18:08.48 | Ellipsis | tab-targeting yes |
| 18:08.56 | Ellipsis | but they limited that a lot recently |
| 18:10.09 | *** join/#wowace Karl (n=Miranda@87.123.101.0) |
| 18:10.36 | CIA-3 | 03nevcairiel * r60407 10Mapster/Mapster.lua: Mapster: small tweak |
| 18:10.38 | CIA-3 | 03xbeeps * r60408 10/branches/LibHealComm-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:10.38 | CIA-3 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 18:10.38 | CIA-3 | - Updated to latest recommendations regarding embedding of LibStub and CallbackHandler-1.0. |
| 18:10.51 | Julith | is there any ide for lua with a good autocompletion? |
| 18:11.32 | *** join/#wowace TheHolyFallout (n=chatzill@pool-96-229-74-189.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:11.40 | SunTsu | Julith: Well, good is always a matter of taste ;) |
| 18:12.27 | Osstia | Julith: I use Notepad++, but I don't believe it does any auto completion. |
| 18:12.50 | Julith | i mean one which can actually autocomplete some local variables or better any varaibles from the currently edited lua-file |
| 18:13.13 | vhaarr | Julith: Any half-decent editor does that. |
| 18:13.16 | vhaarr | vim, for example. |
| 18:13.49 | vhaarr | even openoffice does that |
| 18:14.21 | Julith | vim is special case and open office it not just a "half-decent" editor :) |
| 18:14.35 | dashkal | lucaclipse - but that's pretty heavy |
| 18:15.01 | Julith | does it autocomplete word (variables) from the current file? |
| 18:15.07 | Julith | words |
| 18:15.27 | Julith | last time I've checked it, it hadn't |
| 18:15.34 | dashkal | *checks again* |
| 18:15.57 | nevcairiel | how i hate people that post in a kinda useful discussion thread just to voice their useless opinion thats based on feelings and not one fact o.O |
| 18:16.10 | otravi | *chants about vim* |
| 18:16.37 | dashkal | I stand corrected, alt-space fails me |
| 18:16.51 | dashkal | odd, cause the auto-complete does pop up from time to time... |
| 18:17.13 | ckknight | nevcairiel: oh? |
| 18:17.13 | Elsia | emacs has auto-complete, but like vim is heavy on initial learning |
| 18:17.19 | ckknight | nevcairiel: what this time? |
| 18:17.37 | nevcairiel | nothing special, just the usual, just had to say it =P |
| 18:17.38 | *** join/#wowace Byrdee (n=Byrdee@208.53.56.35) |
| 18:18.27 | Daemona | sounds like "long time lurker, first time poster" stuff on EJ nev |
| 18:18.48 | EvilElvis | notepad++ has autocomplete capability (ctrl+space), but not for lua |
| 18:19.29 | CIA-3 | 03rabbit * r60409 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Remove the raid instance checks, so that outdoor world bosses are tracked correctly + some cleanup. |
| 18:19.32 | *** join/#wowace cyn (n=cyn@66.238.51.166.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 18:20.15 | *** join/#wowace Byrdee (n=Byrdee@208.53.56.35) |
| 18:20.57 | cyn | hey is there a US-client mod that will upon gettign a new quest it will show me where to go so i dont have to look it up everytime? |
| 18:21.12 | Ellipsis | lightheaded |
| 18:21.18 | cyn | questhelper looks like it is what i want but it is for non-us |
| 18:21.19 | cyn | oaky |
| 18:21.21 | cyn | thanks |
| 18:21.27 | cyn | does it have an arrow |
| 18:21.29 | cyn | thingy |
| 18:21.35 | Ellipsis | no, get TomTom as well for that |
| 18:21.36 | [Ammo] | questhelper works for US client |
| 18:22.01 | cyn | what is better lightheaded +tomtom or questhelper? |
| 18:22.05 | SunTsu | Hm, damn, mobmap amrker stopped showing up on cartographer |
| 18:22.26 | [Ammo] | you have to think more with lightheaded |
| 18:22.28 | [Ammo] | and tomtom |
| 18:22.34 | [Ammo] | as in decide yourself what you want to do |
| 18:22.38 | [Ammo] | but you can click the coords |
| 18:22.44 | [Ammo] | questhelper decides for yuo and tells you what to do |
| 18:22.52 | cyn | ic |
| 18:23.21 | vhaarr | cyn: Get TourGuide + LightHeaded + TomTom or Cartographer |
| 18:23.29 | cyn | kk |
| 18:23.32 | cyn | i have cart |
| 18:23.38 | cyn | levelign adruid |
| 18:23.43 | cyn | and dont knwo thae area at all |
| 18:23.51 | vhaarr | tourguide and lightheaded then |
| 18:23.56 | cyn | takes forever to find shit without goign to wowhead |
| 18:25.51 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 18:25.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 18:25.55 | [Ammo] | what vhaarr says, tourguide + lightheaded = good |
| 18:27.27 | vhaarr | I never thought of this before, but for the personal bookmark toolbar in firefox, you can just edit the bookmarks and remove the Name so that you just have the favicon of the bookmark. |
| 18:27.27 | cyn | thanks nar nars !!! |
| 18:27.33 | vhaarr | damn that's a nice trick, saves tons of space |
| 18:27.47 | cyn | those ace mods |
| 18:27.56 | vhaarr | cyn: wowinterface.com |
| 18:28.37 | Zariel | hmmm wowdb is awesome |
| 18:29.21 | vithos | how is wowdb awesome? |
| 18:29.24 | Ellipsis | huh, good idea vhaarr |
| 18:29.33 | Ellipsis | it's like fubar for mah firefox! |
| 18:29.39 | vhaarr | indeed ^^ |
| 18:30.19 | CIA-3 | 03oridan * r60410 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua options.lua): |
| 18:30.19 | CIA-3 | SpellReminder: |
| 18:30.19 | CIA-3 | - Custom sounds per Spell |
| 18:30.19 | CIA-3 | - Custom bar group per Spell |
| 18:30.19 | CIA-3 | - Fade time per spell (including persistent bars) |
| 18:30.20 | CIA-3 | - Load persistent reminder bars on login. |
| 18:30.27 | vithos | it's just wowhead with google suggest, a useless wishlist feature, and different css |
| 18:30.30 | Bruners | !rating 1517 |
| 18:30.31 | Xinhuan | 1517 rating gives 362(5s), 319(3s) and 275(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 18:30.32 | vithos | unless i missed something |
| 18:30.33 | *** join/#wowace Meiun|| (n=xface@h215n2fls31o883.telia.com) |
| 18:30.45 | Amadeo | wowdb looks identical to wowhead to me, yeah |
| 18:32.07 | *** join/#wowace kadrahil_ (n=kad@97.81.50.96) |
| 18:32.36 | Zariel | any idea why this sometimes updates the wrong buff frame http://penguinwithm4a1.org/svn/trunk/fBuff/fBuff.lua ? |
| 18:33.58 | CIA-3 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r60411 10VisualHeal/ (Libs/ VisualHeal.toc embeds.xml): |
| 18:33.58 | CIA-3 | VisualHeal: |
| 18:33.58 | CIA-3 | - Use the Ace3 in trunk. |
| 18:33.58 | CIA-3 | - Updated to latest recommendations on embedding of LibStub and CallbackHandler-1.0. |
| 18:34.01 | Pkekyo| | who's the dev of that gathering hud thingie? |
| 18:34.51 | [SW]Dodge | GatherHud? |
| 18:35.25 | Pkekyo| | aye? |
| 18:35.35 | [SW]Dodge | GatherHud.toc -> ## Author: Grum, Xinhuan |
| 18:36.57 | Pkekyo| | cheers |
| 18:37.03 | Pkekyo| | Grum Xinhuan: ping? |
| 18:37.22 | Grum | POOOOOOOOOONG |
| 18:37.50 | Pkekyo| | Grum: how's that route discrimination thingie coming along? (if you know anything about it - xin was talking about it last night) |
| 18:38.04 | Grum | its in a branch and broken atm :P |
| 18:38.10 | Grum | should be done somewhere around this weekend orso |
| 18:38.21 | Grum | 'Taboo' areas you mean right? |
| 18:38.32 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 18:38.44 | Pkekyo| | also: what's GatherHud's dependencies? |
| 18:38.52 | Grum | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/Routes/Taboo |
| 18:38.52 | [SW]Dodge | anyone wants to test my first addon? "CoolDown Buttons" ? :) |
| 18:38.58 | Grum | GatherHud needs GatherMate |
| 18:39.01 | Grum | and optionally Routes |
| 18:39.24 | Grum | [SW]Dodge: Ellipsis wants to try em for sure |
| 18:39.27 | Pkekyo| | what's gathermate? |
| 18:39.53 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: what does it do? :p |
| 18:40.08 | Grum | Cartographer_(Herbalism|Fishing|Mining|ExtractGas) but lightweigh |
| 18:40.25 | Pkekyo| | doesn't work with the said plugins instead? |
| 18:40.41 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: http://dodgex.servegame.com/cdb.jpg |
| 18:40.47 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 18:40.55 | *** join/#wowace kebinusan (n=kebinusa@24-231-250-52.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 18:41.03 | Grum | Routes can work of Cartographer or GatherMate or Gatherer |
| 18:41.17 | Grum | GatherHud needs GatherMate for node-display and Routes for Routes |
| 18:42.00 | Pkekyo| | Grum: so basicly, I need to scrap my cartographer plugins and build a new gathering db? |
| 18:42.11 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: basicly, cooldowncounter? |
| 18:42.17 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 18:42.26 | Grum | Pkekyo|: or you can write GatherMate_CartoData :P |
| 18:42.39 | Grum | which can do importing of Carto data ;D |
| 18:43.10 | [SW]Dodge | it shows buttons for your cooldown instead of bars and if you click on a button it will post them into party/raid ect (currently just DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMEssage()^^) |
| 18:43.29 | Grum | or you can ask kagaro/xinhuan/nevcariel nicely but they are working on other stuff |
| 18:44.10 | Pkekyo| | Grum: if only I knew how to writen an addon :) |
| 18:44.27 | kagaro | Pkekyo|: you can use GatherMate_Data for a db upload |
| 18:44.31 | Grum | well, learn to do so? |
| 18:44.38 | Grum | yeah _Data has wowhead data |
| 18:44.40 | Grum | so you dont loose all |
| 18:44.53 | kagaro | and ive already got a cronjob set to update it weekly |
| 18:45.00 | [SW]Dodge | http://dodgex.servegame.com/CoolDownButtons.rar <- if someone wants to test ( /cdb and /cooldownbuttons are the slash commands to open the options) |
| 18:45.01 | Pkekyo| | Grum: wouldn't it ultimately be easier to just add cart support for ghud? |
| 18:45.08 | Grum | maybe |
| 18:45.12 | Grum | but it was a toy project |
| 18:45.21 | Pkekyo| | cronjob? |
| 18:45.23 | Grum | and i dont like Cartographer so much |
| 18:47.40 | Chompers | looking at the network traffic list in recount, what on earth is 3T and why is it so spammy |
| 18:48.21 | kagaro | man cron |
| 18:48.29 | Pkekyo| | I don't get it? |
| 18:48.56 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 18:48.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:48.58 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: there is a gathered data importer for GatherMate too |
| 18:49.11 | NeoTron | Cartographer_Herbalism etc I mean |
| 18:49.24 | NeoTron | so you can import the exact data you already have |
| 18:49.31 | kagaro | its an automated scheduled task to run |
| 18:50.47 | *** join/#wowace chexsum (n=chexsum@CPE-124-179-150-220.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 18:52.55 | CIA-3 | 03oridan * r60412 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 18:52.55 | CIA-3 | SpellReminder: |
| 18:52.55 | CIA-3 | - Don't emphasise bars that end early unless they are fading (stop flicker effect) |
| 18:52.55 | CIA-3 | - Slight change to "spell ended" routine to prevent future errors. |
| 18:52.59 | NeoTron | so flying mount speeD: Pally + 310% mount > pally + 280% mount > riding crop + 310% mount > RC + 280% mount |
| 18:53.03 | CIA-3 | 03chexsum * r60413 10CombatAlert/CombatAlert.lua: |
| 18:53.03 | CIA-3 | CombatAlert: |
| 18:53.04 | CIA-3 | - Fixed cooldowns |
| 18:53.04 | CIA-3 | - Added some alert color configuration |
| 18:53.19 | NeoTron | so I have some pleasure in being a faster flyer than the dude that got the phoenix mount still (on my pally :) |
| 18:53.40 | Pkekyo| | meh, guess I could just use wowhead data for GatherMate and use 'taboo' areas instead then |
| 18:54.22 | NeoTron | just get GatherMate and I believe GatherMate_Import to transfer the data if you prefer |
| 18:54.30 | NeoTron | or use GatherMate_Data if you want to start over from wowhead |
| 18:55.04 | Pkekyo| | might as well |
| 18:55.14 | NeoTron | I found that I had to clean up the wowhead data |
| 18:55.16 | Pkekyo| | gathermate supports cartographer, no? |
| 18:55.25 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: can do that with taboo zones |
| 18:55.28 | NeoTron | I hate having khorium veins on other mining veins |
| 18:55.43 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 18:55.43 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: different issue :P |
| 18:55.49 | NeoTron | Routes supports Cart-data |
| 18:56.01 | NeoTron | gathermate can import cart-data with the _Import module |
| 18:56.40 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 18:57.20 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: but does it support cartographer? |
| 18:57.29 | Pkekyo| | ie. the map addon, not gathering plugins |
| 18:59.41 | Pkekyo| | noone knows? :< |
| 18:59.52 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 18:59.52 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 19:00.53 | *** join/#wowace Zyuu_ (n=someone@213-66-221-158-no37.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 19:01.50 | Grum | Pkekyo|: yes it does |
| 19:02.42 | dashkal | Does anybody know offhand now long the hashing code around (md5 or whatnot) takes to hash approximently half a k of data? |
| 19:03.17 | Zariel | if you have 3 buffs, BuffButton1..2..3 when 2 runs out does 3 go to BuffButton2 or does BuffButton3 Move? |
| 19:04.32 | CIA-3 | 037destiny * r60414 10PitBull/ (11 files in 10 dirs): |
| 19:04.32 | CIA-3 | PitBull |
| 19:04.32 | CIA-3 | - Update locale koKR |
| 19:04.33 | Grum | try it ? |
| 19:05.20 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: it shows stuff on the map if you have cart installed yes |
| 19:05.28 | NeoTron | all I did was to uninstall the gathering/professon addons |
| 19:05.30 | dashkal | Grum: no access to the wow client right now. I was asked if hashing would contribute overhead to the task of message validation (context: http://wowace.com/wiki/Nexus ) |
| 19:05.46 | Zyuu_ | rabbit |
| 19:05.52 | NeoTron | Grum: are you the GatherMate dev btw? |
| 19:05.59 | Grum | no :) |
| 19:06.20 | NeoTron | ah ok :P |
| 19:07.01 | *** join/#wowace Hell-Razor (n=Hell-Raz@unaffiliated/hell-razor) |
| 19:07.19 | CIA-3 | 03mokhtar * r60415 10GridDynamicZoneSwitch/ (. GridDynamicZoneSwitch.toc): |
| 19:07.19 | CIA-3 | GridDynamicZoneSwitch : |
| 19:07.19 | CIA-3 | - fixed external (Babble-Zone-2.2) |
| 19:07.19 | CIA-3 | - updated toc to reflect changes |
| 19:08.08 | Antiarc | http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/05/fourth-undersea-cable-cut-near-uae-suspicions-rise/ |
| 19:08.09 | Antiarc | geez. |
| 19:08.31 | genetik | heh |
| 19:08.32 | genetik | crazy |
| 19:09.11 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc |
| 19:09.45 | Chompers | Antiarc: i was thinking of something to add to omen |
| 19:10.03 | Chompers | the version query feature, could older versions be coloured red? |
| 19:10.18 | Chompers | otherwise its this huge list of white numbers |
| 19:10.18 | genetik | or maybe just display older or newer versions than your own |
| 19:10.19 | Antiarc | yeah, likely |
| 19:10.23 | Fisker- | does anyone know if the holy nova cast by cosmic infuser heals depending on who they hit? |
| 19:10.32 | NeoTron | Antiarc: "the problem is related to the power system and not the result of a ship's anchor cutting the cable" |
| 19:10.34 | Chompers | perhaps in order of version? |
| 19:11.01 | Chompers | primary sort by version, secondary sort by name |
| 19:11.03 | NeoTron | genetik: old = red, newer = green or blue perhaps |
| 19:11.16 | genetik | well, my thought is as a raid leader, i don't care who has the same version as me |
| 19:11.27 | genetik | just those who have different versions |
| 19:11.28 | dashkal | meh, I'm really not looking forward to writing the UI for this thing... |
| 19:11.29 | NeoTron | and girl's version numbers should be pink |
| 19:11.31 | Chompers | colour those people green |
| 19:12.59 | dashkal | I don't suppose any of those UI builders I heard about back in the vanilla days still work? |
| 19:13.10 | NeoTron | vhaarr: so discovered one problem with NRT os far (have yet to use it in a raid) - names are added as entered. Would be handy if they were entered, or exported, in a capitalized fashion :P I know, picky. |
| 19:13.46 | vhaarr | NeoTron: Actually, names added in any fashion except extracted from the raid group itself should be lowercased. |
| 19:13.50 | vhaarr | and that won't change |
| 19:14.03 | vhaarr | NeoTron: You're welcome to capitalize the names in the output formatter. |
| 19:14.10 | NeoTron | that's fine |
| 19:14.27 | NeoTron | just need to be capitalized or if screwed up the import (unless I write my own importer) |
| 19:14.27 | Elsia | ping stan |
| 19:14.35 | NeoTron | which I might anyway |
| 19:15.19 | Stanzilla | Elsia: pong |
| 19:15.24 | NeoTron | one thing that'd be nice is if it could be configured to be enabled by-instance - i.e I only want it in 25-man raids, not 10 man or 5-mans |
| 19:15.30 | Elsia | stan: did the latest version fix the color issue? |
| 19:15.39 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I've been thinking about that, yeah. |
| 19:15.54 | Stanzilla | Elsia: I've not yet checked |
| 19:15.58 | Elsia | k |
| 19:19.54 | rubik | man, that's a crapload of combatlog related changes |
| 19:19.59 | vhaarr | NeoTron: added an option for that now, I won't commit just yet |
| 19:20.42 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 19:21.51 | *** join/#wowace DuTempete (n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:21.53 | dashkal | *cry* AceSerializer uses for k,v in table... Anybody know of a serializes that serializes in a deterministic order? (I need to feed a hash digest, so order matters) |
| 19:22.02 | dashkal | serializer* |
| 19:22.31 | pastamancer | non-numeric table index traversal is non-deterministic |
| 19:23.15 | dashkal | exactly my problem. But for simple (no metatable) tables, it can be done in a deterministic order (sort the keys after extracting them) |
| 19:23.18 | pastamancer | you'd really have to go out of your way to grab all the keys, then sort them, then serialize them |
| 19:23.50 | dashkal | Yeah, looks like I may have to adapt rather than use the library. I really have to get order determined or hashing will fail. |
| 19:23.56 | pastamancer | I'd suggest borrowing what you can from AceSerializer so that your output will be readable by it |
| 19:25.02 | dashkal | good thought, but that will have to wait until it's API and format stabalize. I don't want to hit a moving target. |
| 19:25.15 | Arrowmaster | if your using non numeric table indexes you cant expect them to be an any order anyway |
| 19:25.42 | dashkal | Arrowmaster: I don't care what order they are in in memory, I only care that I can take the same table on multiple computers and compute identical hashes for them |
| 19:26.31 | Arrowmaster | so your going to sort them before hashing? |
| 19:26.39 | dashkal | This way I can validate a message with a query like this: Mr contact, I have a message signed by you on this date with this hash. Is this real? |
| 19:27.04 | dashkal | I'll have to. Only the serialization for feeding to the message digest matters. |
| 19:27.15 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 19:28.03 | CIA-3 | 03barfolomeu * r60416 10FlightHUD/FlightHUD.toc: |
| 19:28.03 | CIA-3 | FlightHUD: Added transparency to the artificial horizon graphic. |
| 19:28.03 | CIA-3 | Added a heading hash mark. |
| 19:28.19 | dashkal | direct communication doesn't matter, so I'll go with the faster for k, v in pairs(table) method for that. |
| 19:29.10 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:30.57 | dashkal | I do have the advantage of knowing what limits there are on the specific table that I need to hash (must not have a meta-table that interferes with indexing, no cyclic references). What I don't know is exactly what will be contained in it. The protocol allows for specific applications to extend certain sections. |
| 19:31.53 | kenlyric | i like that lunar festival still has the mail bug |
| 19:31.57 | dashkal | having a custom serializer for the hash is actually probably a good plan anyway. I need to change the message table somewhat before serialization. |
| 19:32.57 | dashkal | Thank you for the feedback *crosses another issue off of his list* |
| 19:33.52 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5731db57.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:34.17 | NeoTron | vhaarr: cool. :) |
| 19:34.48 | NeoTron | vhaarr: is there a way to manually add items to an event? |
| 19:34.55 | Arrowmaster | ah so you were going to use AceSerializer to input into your hash function and not for communications? or both? |
| 19:35.04 | *** join/#wowace InSAT (n=marco@host252-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:35.04 | NeoTron | reason I ask is because sometimes auto-adds fail because the target was too far away to register a message |
| 19:35.08 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 19:35.30 | [SW]Dodge | um is there a way to setup the positions of the config settings more specific than just "order"? (i'm using aceconfig3) |
| 19:35.33 | NeoTron | tonight is raid night so I'll truly try it out tonight, side to side with the other one |
| 19:36.09 | dashkal | Arrowmaster: I was considering using AS for both, but it appears that I can only use AS for communications. I'll have a custom fork hidden in my hash trust module for the specific problem of hashing. |
| 19:36.48 | dashkal | For communications I want speed. For authentication I need accuracy |
| 19:38.19 | dashkal | Hopefully I'll be able to get people using the web of trust module... that should do quite a bit to reduce overhead. |
| 19:39.01 | CIA-3 | 03rabbit * r60417 10NRT/ (NRT.lua NRT.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 19:39.01 | CIA-3 | NRT: |
| 19:39.01 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.01 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.01 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.02 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.04 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.05 | vhaarr | NeoTron: hm |
| 19:39.14 | NeoTron | vhaarr: the person handling standby had a question too - does the addon prevent person A from whispering twice, once for himself and once for some other dude |
| 19:39.24 | vhaarr | NeoTron: no |
| 19:40.03 | NeoTron | I really wouldn't think our raiders would do that and it is obvious when people do whisper |
| 19:40.53 | vhaarr | NRT prints a message like "NeoTron has been added to the attendance list by vhaarr." when someone whispers in a name |
| 19:41.52 | Zyuu_ | folk no reply to my query? =x |
| 19:41.56 | vhaarr | NeoTron: If you want to add an item, you'll have to run some lua code |
| 19:41.58 | NeoTron | yeah I saw that |
| 19:42.08 | vhaarr | NeoTron: and your question is not right |
| 19:42.18 | vhaarr | NeoTron: you asked if it was possible to add an item to a set manually |
| 19:42.23 | vhaarr | but items and sets are not coupled |
| 19:42.27 | vhaarr | only by the output formatter |
| 19:42.32 | NeoTron | ok |
| 19:42.58 | Saroz | NRT ftw |
| 19:42.59 | NeoTron | so I don't have to associate an item to a particular event, i.e Anetheron |
| 19:43.31 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.35 | vhaarr | Zyuu_: what? |
| 19:43.40 | vhaarr | Zyuu_: you haven't queried me |
| 19:43.40 | Zyuu_ | check your query |
| 19:43.43 | Zyuu_ | yes I have |
| 19:43.46 | vhaarr | no |
| 19:43.49 | vhaarr | you're not registered with nickserv |
| 19:43.50 | Zyuu_ | and you didnt accept my new msn either :P |
| 19:43.55 | Zyuu_ | ah, this isnt like quakenet |
| 19:43.57 | vhaarr | awake? |
| 19:44.00 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5B22A671.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:44.00 | Zyuu_ | yup |
| 19:44.04 | Zyuu_ | accept me! |
| 19:44.07 | vhaarr | I'm offline from msn until tomorrow evening |
| 19:44.11 | Zyuu_ | ah |
| 19:44.16 | Zyuu_ | msn > irc :( |
| 19:44.16 | NeoTron | vhaarr: can I /request a /nrt item Name [ItemLink] Boss type command? :P |
| 19:44.30 | vhaarr | Zyuu_: you must be registered with nickserv here to query people |
| 19:44.48 | vhaarr | I can come on quakenet |
| 19:44.53 | CIA-3 | 03lilsparky * r60418 10/branches/Skillet/: Skillet: initial directory creation |
| 19:45.16 | CIA-3 | 03lilsparky 07lilsparky * r60419 10Skillet/: Skillet: initial branching for lilsparky |
| 19:45.18 | Zyuu_ | Im not on quakenet though |
| 19:45.20 | NeoTron | this really is a rather common issue when peple run away from the alliance to horde camp in hyjal for example or run from supremus to the next trash and so on |
| 19:45.21 | Zyuu_ | we can take it tomorrow :) |
| 19:45.38 | CIA-3 | 037destiny * r60420 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.lua): |
| 19:45.38 | CIA-3 | PitBull |
| 19:45.39 | CIA-3 | - fix locale koKR |
| 19:45.44 | vhaarr | Zyuu_: okay, I'm on qnet now |
| 19:45.46 | vhaarr | but sure |
| 19:46.01 | NeoTron | vhaarr: of course this assumes that NRT registers loot delivered the same wah ctrt does |
| 19:46.13 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I've no idea what ctrt does |
| 19:46.16 | NeoTron | which depends on range to the recipient and their "foo looted bar" event |
| 19:46.24 | vhaarr | right |
| 19:46.30 | vhaarr | NRT depends on that as well |
| 19:46.46 | vhaarr | but the range is pretty long |
| 19:46.48 | NeoTron | so it occurs several times weekly |
| 19:46.55 | vhaarr | well there's no other way to do it |
| 19:47.00 | vhaarr | that's why NRT does it that way :P |
| 19:47.02 | nevcairiel | the guy tracking the raid should just stay at the mob until its empty tbh |
| 19:47.04 | NeoTron | thus my request for a slash command :P |
| 19:47.15 | *** join/#wowace Jygga (i=Ordog@port-87-234-84-67.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 19:47.17 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: it's the people receiving the loot, no the tracker |
| 19:47.18 | vhaarr | NeoTron: if there was some other way that didn't depend on parsing chat messages and range, I'd use it |
| 19:47.21 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but there isn't |
| 19:47.34 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: people receiving should too, or they suck :P |
| 19:47.40 | vhaarr | I agree :P |
| 19:47.48 | NeoTron | in the interest of speed it's better if they move on |
| 19:47.55 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 19:47.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 19:48.19 | NeoTron | I can take the manual labor part, just don't want to use a lua script :P Should be simple enough to wrap it in a slash command |
| 19:48.20 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I can simplify it a bit |
| 19:48.28 | vhaarr | NeoTron: /script NRT:ItemLooted(player, link) |
| 19:48.29 | vhaarr | for example |
| 19:48.32 | vhaarr | I can make that easily |
| 19:48.49 | NeoTron | but what is "lin" in that case? I have to figure out the item link or can I just shift click it? |
| 19:48.59 | vhaarr | wrap it in quotes |
| 19:49.01 | NeoTron | but why not just make it a slash command? |
| 19:49.07 | vhaarr | "[shift clicked link]" |
| 19:49.18 | vhaarr | bah |
| 19:49.21 | NeoTron | heh |
| 19:49.40 | genetik | feature creep! |
| 19:49.44 | genetik | heh |
| 19:49.45 | vhaarr | ye :P |
| 19:49.51 | NeoTron | lies |
| 19:50.08 | NeoTron | although I could make a custom little addon that wraps some things in slash commands for my own benefit |
| 19:50.23 | NeoTron | the above is simple enough though, as long as it allows me to specify the cost too |
| 19:50.26 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I'll add that function at least |
| 19:50.41 | NeoTron | in the exporter, how does it map that an item was killed on a specific boss? |
| 19:50.44 | vhaarr | the note is handled separately |
| 19:50.49 | NeoTron | is that tracked per item? |
| 19:50.51 | vhaarr | yes |
| 19:51.03 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.05 | NeoTron | so the above could automatically use the "currently" killed boss |
| 19:51.19 | NeoTron | which is what I meant "linked to the current set" by the way |
| 19:51.25 | NeoTron | most recent event |
| 19:51.26 | vhaarr | yeah if I add NRT:ItemLooted you just need to specifty player and item |
| 19:51.41 | vhaarr | <t |
| 19:51.45 | vhaarr | -t fuck this keyboard |
| 19:52.03 | Industrial | no thanks |
| 19:52.13 | nevcairiel | you havent seen the keyboard indy |
| 19:52.22 | Industrial | true |
| 19:52.54 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-213-238.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 19:53.11 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b9feadab7465451f0bc69b3252d83605.PNG |
| 19:53.15 | Industrial | leetxp is leet |
| 19:53.35 | Industrial | but now I cant remember how to get my show desktop icon back |
| 19:53.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:53.57 | Industrial | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/190355 |
| 19:53.59 | Industrial | hehe go google |
| 19:54.39 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-181-49.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 19:56.05 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@129.21.20.135) |
| 19:56.58 | vithos | anybody around who works on LibPeriodicTable-3.1? |
| 19:58.18 | *** join/#wowace KivinSan (n=Kivin@bas1-kingston08-1167888616.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 19:58.35 | Bruners | is there a tabcompletion addon ? |
| 19:58.56 | genetik | to tab complete what? |
| 19:59.04 | Bruners | names in chat |
| 19:59.06 | genetik | prat will do names |
| 19:59.10 | vithos | prat does it |
| 19:59.12 | CIA-3 | 03ckknight * r60421 10Quartz/Player/Player.lua: |
| 19:59.12 | CIA-3 | Quartz - Add SharedMedia support for border textures |
| 19:59.12 | CIA-3 | (committing for Ellipsis until she gets an account) |
| 19:59.17 | Bruners | except prat |
| 19:59.54 | Bruners | i only want tabcompletion |
| 20:00.04 | vithos | then disable all the other modules |
| 20:03.26 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 20:03.47 | CIA-3 | 03peragor * r60422 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 20:03.47 | CIA-3 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 20:03.47 | CIA-3 | - Fixed bad interface lag due to rosterlib's UnitChanged event. |
| 20:03.47 | CIA-3 | - Reduced number of registered events. |
| 20:05.02 | CIA-3 | 03rabbit * r60423 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Add NRT:ItemLooted(player, item) function, can be used from chat like /script NRT:ItemLooted("Rabbit", "[Phat Epic]") -- note the quotes around the item link. |
| 20:05.03 | vhaarr | NeoTron: ^ |
| 20:05.16 | *** join/#wowace dJe781 (n=dje781@ves78-1-89-85-60-113.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 20:05.53 | genetik | grats on the Phat Epic |
| 20:05.59 | EvilJohn- | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.01 | genetik | heh |
| 20:06.22 | vhaarr | EvilJohn-: yeah, in case NRT failed to pick up that someone looted an item |
| 20:06.31 | vhaarr | which can happen if you're too far away from eachother |
| 20:06.40 | *** join/#wowace calaveraDeluxe (n=calavera@e182079077.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:06.40 | EvilJohn- | yeah |
| 20:06.44 | EvilJohn- | pretty cool |
| 20:07.12 | EvilJohn- | I went through NRT trying to find a better way to write a loot raid tracker, I couldnt' really find a better way to do it |
| 20:07.13 | NeoTron | vhaarr: thanks |
| 20:07.24 | vhaarr | EvilJohn-: haha, thank you I guess |
| 20:07.34 | EvilJohn- | no offense intended |
| 20:07.46 | vhaarr | I wasn't being sarcastic |
| 20:08.00 | EvilJohn- | it's theonly way tot deal with the loot strings |
| 20:08.01 | *** join/#wowace m4rku5 (n=markus@cl-2778.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 20:08.03 | EvilJohn- | all good |
| 20:08.07 | vhaarr | yeah it's silly |
| 20:08.19 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 20:08.20 | vhaarr | I'm thinking maybe 2.4 will change that, but I don't think it will |
| 20:08.22 | EvilJohn- | I actually asked in ui forums if they were considering doing loot in the combat log |
| 20:08.23 | vhaarr | maybe if we're lucky |
| 20:08.28 | EvilJohn- | slouken said no |
| 20:08.32 | vhaarr | right |
| 20:08.42 | EvilJohn- | i was disappointed |
| 20:08.59 | vhaarr | yeah there should be a better way |
| 20:09.08 | vhaarr | especially since it seems Deformat-2.0 doesn't handle the chinese strings |
| 20:09.10 | EvilJohn- | see, one thing that had always felt was important, from a tracking perspective was tying an attendence set to loot events |
| 20:09.18 | vhaarr | at least I've gotten some complaints from asian players that the loot handler doesn't work |
| 20:09.23 | EvilJohn- | i believe it |
| 20:09.31 | vhaarr | problem is |
| 20:09.33 | EvilJohn- | the localization would be a bear |
| 20:09.45 | vhaarr | when I ask them for help to resolve it, they don't understand what I want |
| 20:09.57 | vhaarr | EvilJohn: that's the point of Deformat, you don't have to localize anything |
| 20:10.08 | EvilJohn- | deformat does, no? |
| 20:10.09 | vhaarr | it just fails to reverse the asian strings for some reason |
| 20:10.11 | vhaarr | no |
| 20:10.31 | EvilJohn- | it has to be able parse and split the chinese characters I thought |
| 20:10.44 | nevcairiel | deformat uses the pattern provided by the game, and changes those to capture pattern |
| 20:10.51 | vhaarr | yeah but it only works with lua patterns |
| 20:10.56 | nevcairiel | it should work with UTF8 |
| 20:10.57 | nevcairiel | i gues |
| 20:11.05 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 20:11.07 | vhaarr | yeah but it seems like it doesn't work |
| 20:11.09 | EvilJohn- | chinese requires UTF-16, I thought |
| 20:11.17 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 20:11.20 | otravi | it doesn't |
| 20:11.26 | nevcairiel | we store the chinese stuff in UTF8 files =P |
| 20:11.27 | NeoTron | so when you give out loot with xloot it posts in guild chat about it |
| 20:11.34 | NeoTron | of course it doesn't ACTUALLY indicate the loot was given |
| 20:11.41 | vhaarr | NeoTron: what? |
| 20:11.52 | EvilJohn- | good to know |
| 20:11.56 | Fisker- | noooooooo |
| 20:11.58 | NeoTron | xloot has an announce in guild chat when I (try to) give an item out |
| 20:12.01 | vhaarr | NeoTron: when someone recieves an epic item that isn't ignored or special cased, NRT will say so in the guild chat |
| 20:12.02 | Fisker- | i had everlasting divine favor |
| 20:12.07 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but you can turn that option off |
| 20:12.23 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I was just saying that xloot will announce things before they receive the item |
| 20:12.26 | NeoTron | as I try to give it out |
| 20:12.30 | vhaarr | NRT won't do that |
| 20:12.41 | vhaarr | it will announce when someone actually recieves it |
| 20:12.44 | NeoTron | my point was the ooposite |
| 20:13.00 | NeoTron | a similar fashion could be used to indicate hat someone probably got an item :P |
| 20:13.19 | vhaarr | xloot probably did it like that so that it wouldn't depend on range |
| 20:13.31 | NeoTron | that... is my point yes |
| 20:13.48 | NeoTron | if xloot can do that, so can nrt |
| 20:14.01 | NeoTron | knowing fully the drawbacks associated with it |
| 20:14.05 | vhaarr | yeah I don't know |
| 20:14.07 | EvilJohn- | so yeah, that's was my point |
| 20:14.15 | EvilJohn- | the loot shold be done like the combat log |
| 20:14.16 | vhaarr | we don't use master looter, people just roll |
| 20:14.23 | Fisker- | i know how to balance paladins now |
| 20:14.27 | EvilJohn- | and putting what mob it ws loot from would be nice |
| 20:14.28 | Fisker- | divine favor needs to be passive instead |
| 20:14.34 | *** join/#wowace sb (n=sb@dslb-084-056-170-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:14.34 | NeoTron | you don't use DKP or anything? |
| 20:14.44 | sb | *sigh* |
| 20:14.49 | vhaarr | NeoTron: we do, but we don't use NRT, like I said yesterday |
| 20:14.49 | NeoTron | must be nice to play with people solid enough where such a system can be trusted |
| 20:14.51 | sb | people too dumb for illidan |
| 20:14.53 | vhaarr | I've never used the addon myself |
| 20:14.56 | NeoTron | ah |
| 20:15.07 | vhaarr | we use bananadkp, a custom addon I wrote for myself |
| 20:15.12 | Josh_Borke | Fisker-: how would that work? |
| 20:15.14 | vhaarr | but I know a few other guilds use it as well |
| 20:15.32 | Fisker- | it would work awesome |
| 20:15.42 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 20:16.03 | EvilJohn- | i never wanted to track dkp in add on, just get a clear tracking of loot |
| 20:16.17 | vhaarr | we don't have any online dkp system, we have everything in-game |
| 20:16.36 | vhaarr | so we don't depend on a website to run the dkp system |
| 20:16.38 | Josh_Borke | Fisker-: every heal crits? o.O |
| 20:17.03 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:17.09 | nevcairiel | i prefer using a website, that way you can check from not-ingame who won the item last night etc |
| 20:17.20 | Fisker- | seems to be pretty awesome on mana regen |
| 20:17.24 | EvilJohn- | and everyone can see it |
| 20:17.31 | EvilJohn- | transparency in guilds is a good thing |
| 20:17.33 | genetik | and you don't have to worry about blizzard losing data |
| 20:17.38 | vhaarr | everyone can see it with bananadkp as well |
| 20:17.44 | vhaarr | you just have to whisper the server |
| 20:17.45 | EvilJohn- | what blizzard would never do that |
| 20:17.48 | genetik | heh |
| 20:17.54 | genetik | that's the one thing i didn't like about EPGP |
| 20:18.08 | nevcairiel | "due to a bug in the guild system all guild notes and officer notes had to be cleared" |
| 20:18.11 | genetik | yeah |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-3 | 03grum 07Taboo * r60424 10Routes/Routes.lua: |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-3 | Routes: |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-3 | - Another drycode TabooEdit push - might break drawing Taboo zones as well |
| 20:18.14 | vhaarr | if the server isn't online then you just have to wait |
| 20:18.15 | genetik | happened before with friends list |
| 20:18.20 | EvilJohn- | yeah |
| 20:18.35 | Fisker- | why, how and link? |
| 20:18.44 | NeoTron | vhaarr: you use a fixed dkp system of some sort? |
| 20:18.57 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 20:18.57 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 20:19.11 | Primer | I'm not using LibRock explicitly but my addon has a rock configuration item. Is there any way of ordering the configuration elements without being LibRock specific? |
| 20:19.12 | vhaarr | NeoTron: it's a custom dkp system, dkp is awarded per-hour and if you use consumables you get a bonus, whenever you loot an epic item, your dkp drops by 25% |
| 20:19.32 | NeoTron | interesting system |
| 20:19.50 | vhaarr | everything is handled by bananadkp, I just have to start/stop it |
| 20:19.58 | Primer | I mean, without making it a LibRock configuration? So it can remain a simple slash-command style configuration? |
| 20:20.00 | vhaarr | the automatic hour counter for dkp, I mean |
| 20:20.45 | NeoTron | how is a winner determined if you just roll? I'd assume the person with the most DKP would win |
| 20:21.02 | genetik | roll for interest, likely |
| 20:21.13 | vhaarr | NeoTron: right, I was talking about kara/za |
| 20:21.22 | vhaarr | in 25man I just write "bid: [item link]" |
| 20:21.27 | vhaarr | people who want it write "bid" |
| 20:21.27 | EvilJohn- | i'd always hoped that blizzard someday would have some sort of shared space for guild data |
| 20:21.30 | vhaarr | and the winner is announced |
| 20:21.36 | NeoTron | I want a system like that |
| 20:22.17 | NeoTron | meaning in-game tracking / management of dkp |
| 20:22.18 | Ellipsis | Primer: the same way you'd do it for waterfall/etc. |
| 20:22.37 | Ellipsis | as long as it stays a valid ace options table it will work with aceconsole |
| 20:22.41 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah we have everything in-game, but the addon was written with this specific system in mind |
| 20:22.46 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I've tried to keep it 100% pluggable |
| 20:22.53 | NeoTron | understood |
| 20:22.54 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but I've never tried implementing a second DKP system |
| 20:23.04 | NeoTron | I figure i'd have to do some custom development to do it |
| 20:23.15 | vhaarr | yeah unless you want to just use our dkp system without any changes |
| 20:23.18 | vhaarr | I know of 2 other guilds that do |
| 20:23.20 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@122-57-242-183.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 20:23.33 | nevcairiel | i actually liked the idea of EPGP or what it was called, maybe i'll try to use that with the new expansion .. we generally only revamp stuff like that at that point |
| 20:23.34 | NeoTron | that'd be quite a change from our current system |
| 20:23.55 | NeoTron | do you track standby dkp at all - that is something important to us |
| 20:24.10 | vhaarr | people on standby (bananadkp term is 'sitout') get 1 dkp per hour |
| 20:24.11 | Primer | Ellipsis: waterfall is an addon? |
| 20:24.19 | vhaarr | people in the raid get 1 dkp per hour + consumable bonuses |
| 20:24.39 | NeoTron | I kind of like how the system doesn't encourage hoarding |
| 20:24.46 | NeoTron | or rather the more you horde the more you pay |
| 20:24.46 | vhaarr | 0.3 per elixir, 0.2 for well fed and 0.5 for flask |
| 20:24.49 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 20:25.00 | NeoTron | and I like rewarding dkp for consumables :P |
| 20:25.03 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 20:25.06 | vhaarr | there's no punishment |
| 20:25.06 | nevcairiel | 2 elixirs > flask?^^ |
| 20:25.09 | vhaarr | only rewards |
| 20:25.11 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yes? |
| 20:25.11 | Ellipsis | Primer: waterfall is a lib for creating config guis |
| 20:25.29 | Ellipsis | if you want an addon to test with use Niagara |
| 20:25.34 | Primer | Ellipsis: so in other words, no...I can't just keep what I have |
| 20:25.42 | Ellipsis | yes you can |
| 20:25.47 | Ellipsis | why couldn't you? |
| 20:25.50 | nevcairiel | i would see a tank rather eat his flask then some 2 elixirs |
| 20:26.01 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: elixirs are WAY more expensive now, and 2 elixirs give a better bonus now than 1 flask, and they only last 1 hour compared to 2, and they are removed when you die |
| 20:26.02 | NeoTron | vhaarr: do people sitting out need to be in the raid/on their main? |
| 20:26.05 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 20:26.07 | vhaarr | NeoTron: nah |
| 20:26.14 | vhaarr | they just whisper me 'sitout' |
| 20:26.21 | NeoTron | ah |
| 20:26.27 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: wtf is wrong with your economy? I can get like 20 elixirs for the cost of one flask :D |
| 20:26.32 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: lol |
| 20:26.49 | Primer | Ellipsis: sorry, I'm a bit out of it today...my goal is to keep what I have, which is this slashcommand opt...structure |
| 20:27.08 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: well you can just edit the lua file and change those multipliers anyway :P |
| 20:27.16 | vhaarr | they're listed as "constants" at the top |
| 20:27.26 | Ellipsis | Primer: right, which you can do just fine |
| 20:27.30 | Primer | Ellipsis: http://sh.nu/w/FlightHUD/FlightHUD/FlightHUD.lua <-- the thing starting at line 3 |
| 20:27.31 | nevcairiel | anyway, when we announce that people need to use consumables, we just expect everyone to use any, or replace them with sitouts if they dont comply |
| 20:27.41 | vhaarr | we don't demand that people do |
| 20:27.46 | vhaarr | we just reward them if they chose to |
| 20:27.59 | vhaarr | (most people do) |
| 20:28.03 | nevcairiel | we expect that on all new fights, and dps race fights |
| 20:28.20 | nevcairiel | now that we farm t6 content, we just mention it on illidan or so, but thats all |
| 20:28.22 | Ellipsis | Primer: http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table |
| 20:28.27 | Arrowmaster | rofl http://www.thomasscott.net/realworldracer/# |
| 20:28.34 | Ellipsis | see the entry on "ordering" |
| 20:28.50 | Primer | Ellipsis: /love |
| 20:29.30 | NeoTron | vhaarr: so does it track DKP on the hour or do you get 3.45dkp + consumable bonus if you raid 3h45m |
| 20:29.43 | vhaarr | per hour |
| 20:29.56 | vhaarr | NeoTron: at the end of a raid, I pause the hour counter and see how long there's left until the next +1 |
| 20:29.59 | vhaarr | if it's less than 15min |
| 20:30.01 | vhaarr | I do a increment |
| 20:31.24 | *** part/#wowace pschriner (n=pschrine@xdsl-81-173-227-110.netcologne.de) |
| 20:32.24 | Primer | Ellipsis: that worked perfectly, thanks |
| 20:32.54 | NeoTron | I don't think the system really would work as-is for us - our members like deciding how much an iem is worth |
| 20:32.58 | NeoTron | i.e bidding by value |
| 20:33.27 | vhaarr | yeah it's a pretty weird system, but it's fair |
| 20:33.59 | NeoTron | my main concern would be unnecessary disenchanting of items people might use but which aren't large ugprades |
| 20:34.04 | vhaarr | I don't allow people to pass on items that are upgrades |
| 20:34.07 | NeoTron | concern I'd have with fixed dkp systems as well |
| 20:34.08 | vhaarr | no matter how small |
| 20:34.31 | Fisker- | there's shadow paladins in tempest keep |
| 20:34.34 | NeoTron | do you know exactly which items are an upgrade for everyone in the raid? |
| 20:34.38 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah |
| 20:34.54 | Ellipsis | vhaarr knows everything |
| 20:34.54 | NeoTron | I guess from the top guild in the world, that'd be expected... |
| 20:34.56 | Ellipsis | don't question it |
| 20:35.11 | *** join/#wowace blaylok (i=KevFlow@35.136.243.24.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 20:35.25 | Primer | is there a way to get if a certain mouse button is down without using a mouse event handler? |
| 20:35.35 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I don't raid with nihilum, I'm in a low tier casual guild :) |
| 20:35.38 | Fisker- | oops |
| 20:35.50 | NeoTron | err ok I thought I saw a reference to nihilum somewhere? :P |
| 20:35.59 | NeoTron | like the page NRT was on |
| 20:36.07 | vhaarr | yeah I've worked with them since before naxxramas on several things |
| 20:36.16 | vhaarr | and could have joined as their addon guy |
| 20:36.19 | vhaarr | but it's not for me |
| 20:36.58 | NeoTron | so you know whether the boots from hydross or the blue suede boots are better for a destruction warlock? |
| 20:37.04 | NeoTron | for example |
| 20:37.40 | Fisker- | tanks don't like i'm healing the sheeps :( |
| 20:37.57 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah |
| 20:38.15 | vhaarr | I would force the hydross shoes on a dest warlock with blue suede |
| 20:38.20 | vhaarr | no discussion |
| 20:38.38 | NeoTron | hydross is _marginally_ better |
| 20:38.46 | vhaarr | doesn't matter, upgrade is upgrade |
| 20:38.47 | NeoTron | BUT I've picked using the suede shoes because they have more int |
| 20:38.58 | NeoTron | so it's not clear cut which ones are truly better |
| 20:39.01 | vhaarr | stamina for survival, locks need to tank sometimes as well |
| 20:39.14 | Fisker- | they should gief free epix |
| 20:39.22 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-32-113-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 20:39.47 | NeoTron | 4 more stamina isn't going to do anything |
| 20:39.57 | Josh_Borke | 40 health?! |
| 20:40.01 | NeoTron | well yeah |
| 20:40.05 | vhaarr | oh, I thought it was more |
| 20:40.27 | vhaarr | NeoTron: well it's simple really, if noone bids for an item, then I check people and see if they should take it |
| 20:40.32 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but 99% of the time, someone bids |
| 20:40.33 | NeoTron | hydross is 3 more spell dmg, 4 more stamina and 10 less int |
| 20:40.38 | vhaarr | so then I don't have to check or force anyway |
| 20:40.51 | *** join/#wowace networkerror (n=nicotine@adsl-71-131-209-69.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 20:41.00 | NeoTron | for a felguard lock, however, blue suede is better |
| 20:41.02 | NeoTron | clearl |
| 20:41.15 | NeoTron | because they have damage, not shadow dmg, and a FG lock uses immolate |
| 20:41.15 | vhaarr | yeah we only have one demo lock |
| 20:41.34 | *** join/#wowace smoke_ (n=smoke@adsl-75-43-45-87.dsl.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:41.38 | Arrowmaster | what FG lock uses immolate? |
| 20:41.42 | Julith | is "aTable = {}" a good way to clean a table? |
| 20:41.44 | *** join/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 20:41.56 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but of course i have officers and class leaders who know these things as well, so if I'm not sure, then I would ask |
| 20:42.03 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I'd probably as the lock cl about those boots |
| 20:42.12 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: anyone that wants to maximize their DPS |
| 20:42.27 | NeoTron | demo locks have a high amount of generic spell damage and don't have ruin. dots are strong and should be used |
| 20:42.28 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but we've raided like this for such a long time now that people know I don't allow passing, so they just bid |
| 20:42.41 | vhaarr | NeoTron: like you said yourself, the system discourages hoarding, people know it doesn't work anyway |
| 20:42.46 | zac | NeoTron: perhaps in the short term, but the mana cost of immolate hurts pretty bad |
| 20:42.50 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I truly wish our members all weer clueful to tht degree |
| 20:42.57 | NeoTron | zac: nah it's better |
| 20:43.30 | NeoTron | mana cost is often neglectible since you life tap when you otherwise couldn't DPS |
| 20:43.40 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 20:43.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 20:43.44 | Arrowmaster | i know as affliction its a major dps hit to cast immolate |
| 20:43.47 | NeoTron | yes |
| 20:43.51 | NeoTron | but demonology isn't afliction |
| 20:43.59 | NeoTron | affliction has shadow damage bonuses and more dots |
| 20:44.10 | zac | the mana cost is still bad, lifetap is a significant dps loss, and there's rarely a situation where you can't dps |
| 20:44.12 | NeoTron | there immolate is ineffective and will mess up cast cycles |
| 20:44.24 | vhaarr | zac: there are plenty situations when you can't dps |
| 20:44.27 | NeoTron | zac: at what level have you raided FG lock specced? |
| 20:44.37 | zac | NeoTron: clearing BT/hyjal |
| 20:44.37 | CIA-3 | 03feu * r60425 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (NPCModules/BlackTemple/Souls.lua lib.xml): |
| 20:44.37 | CIA-3 | Threat-1.0: |
| 20:44.37 | CIA-3 | - added Reliquary of Souls module made by brotherhobbes for threat wipes between phases (not fully tested) |
| 20:44.47 | zac | vhaarr: not really, well, other than being way above the tank on threat |
| 20:45.10 | NeoTron | zac: except for some fights like gorefiend you typically have time |
| 20:45.16 | vhaarr | indeed you do |
| 20:45.20 | Fisker- | you here? |
| 20:45.23 | NeoTron | I've not done FG spec on illidan. that's it |
| 20:45.38 | zac | NeoTron: time to not dps on gorefiend? i don't follow |
| 20:45.40 | *** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@adsl-76-227-15-244.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:45.52 | NeoTron | zac: gorefiend is a fight where you do NOT have extra time to life tap |
| 20:46.01 | NeoTron | meaning a fight where life tap is a direct and guaranteed loss of dps |
| 20:46.24 | NeoTron | but the flipside is that if you don't use dots and life tap you do no DPS while when you have dots ticking, you do some dps |
| 20:46.26 | zac | there's very few fights that aren't almost entirely stationary. |
| 20:46.53 | vhaarr | I miss heigan |
| 20:47.16 | Primer | more dots! |
| 20:47.44 | NeoTron | naj'entus - life tap during shield (you got enough health right? :), supremus, while running, akama - only matters is the 40s when he's killed, gorefiend: yeah no time here, bloodboil: threat/moving for bloodboil, essence: between phases, shahraz: mostyl stand and nuke, council: mostly nuke but moving out of aoe |
| 20:48.27 | Arrowmaster | i have this idea for the ultimate raid encounter, its like heigan but with fire instead of poison, and also like thadius in that you get 1 of 2 buffs, depending on the buff you either need to stay in the fire or out of the fire |
| 20:48.35 | NeoTron | I still maintain that the cost of immolate is outweighted by the fact that it ticks while you move/lifetap and you have a lot of damage bonus |
| 20:49.10 | Paene | so...who's watching the elections? |
| 20:49.13 | *** join/#wowace dabujo_ (i=xx@p54AC91E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:49.14 | Funkeh` | whats so ahrd to understand |
| 20:49.20 | Funkeh` | Threat-1.0 handles new mob threat wipes |
| 20:49.27 | Funkeh` | why have you made a module for it yet AGAIN |
| 20:50.04 | ckknight_ | Paene: I'm politically oriented |
| 20:50.12 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: there's issues with threat resets on RoS and illidan at least |
| 20:50.16 | ckknight_ | Paene: I'll be checking the internet multiple times today |
| 20:50.21 | Paene | ckknight_: Have a preferred candidate? |
| 20:50.24 | Antiarc | There are standing issues |
| 20:50.25 | NeoTron | illidan => phase 2, some people still sit on top (like a resto druid) |
| 20:50.30 | Antiarc | But a module isn't the right way to fix it |
| 20:50.37 | dylanm | Archimonde for prez. |
| 20:50.38 | Antiarc | I'm still trying to track it down, |
| 20:50.41 | NeoTron | and it doesn't seem to reset correctly between phase 3/4 and 5/4 either |
| 20:50.42 | Fisker- | can acecomm detect if there's a lot of traffic? |
| 20:50.53 | ckknight_ | Paene: yea ;-) |
| 20:50.57 | NeoTron | Antiarc: not saying there is |
| 20:51.01 | vhaarr | Fisker-: chatthrottlelib does that |
| 20:51.02 | ckknight_ | Fisker-: yes |
| 20:51.03 | Fisker- | or throttlelib or whatever it is |
| 20:51.25 | Paene | ckknight_: let's see...you're from Hawaii, but left it for Cali...so...democrat? |
| 20:51.40 | Fisker- | so technically it would be possible to make omen whine about being unable to update normally? |
| 20:51.58 | vhaarr | Fisker-: it won't be unable to, the traffic will just be a bit delayed |
| 20:51.59 | ckknight_ | Paene: hehe, I'm a libertarian Republican |
| 20:52.03 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, It works perfectly fine for me |
| 20:52.06 | ckknight_ | woo, America! |
| 20:52.20 | Paene | ckknight_: Civil Libertarian here...generally a democrat |
| 20:52.37 | ckknight_ | Civil Libertarian? what's that mean? |
| 20:52.50 | ckknight | (note: not deriding you, generally curious) |
| 20:53.03 | Paene | focus on issues revolving around the Bill of Rights |
| 20:53.23 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:53.36 | Fisker- | vhaarr yeah but for some reason some guildies are using addons that sync that much that it barely never updates |
| 20:53.46 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: I could take some screenshots to show the problem |
| 20:53.56 | *** join/#wowace Lisimba (i=kaas@dyn48-dh.nbw.tue.nl) |
| 20:53.57 | vhaarr | Fisker-: jeez |
| 20:54.05 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, How will that change anything |
| 20:54.05 | Paene | I generally lean liberal...currently a fan of Obama, but I also like Ron Paul |
| 20:54.32 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: show that there IS a problem even if it "works for me" |
| 20:54.48 | ckknight | Paene: Ron Paul's my favorite, but I don't see him having a chance, sadly. Mitt Romney's my second favorite, though, mostly due to his experience in both the private and public sectors |
| 20:54.54 | ckknight | I'm fond of Obama, though |
| 20:55.11 | ckknight | somewhat |
| 20:55.26 | ckknight | I was in Illinois for a while, Obama made a lot of promises he didn't keep |
| 20:55.38 | ckknight | but between him and Clinton, I believe he's less corrupt |
| 20:55.38 | Paene | ckknight: I worry about Romney falling short on presidential duties that aren't economic or financial based |
| 20:56.05 | ckknight | Paene: yea, I see that as a possibility, but that's where staff comes in |
| 20:56.13 | Arrowmaster | obama vs ron paul would make for an interesting election |
| 20:56.24 | CIA-3 | 03julith 07Julith * r60426 10Grid/ (GridStatusHeals.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 20:56.24 | CIA-3 | Grid: |
| 20:56.24 | CIA-3 | - added conversion from grid-names to healcomm-names |
| 20:56.24 | CIA-3 | - fixed the bug that own the heal amount was added to every other heal (I guess, couldn't test it by now) |
| 20:56.24 | CIA-3 | - heal modifier is regarded now |
| 20:56.25 | CIA-3 | - removed LibGratuity from dependencies, isn't needed anymore |
| 20:56.28 | ckknight | I see economics as one of the biggest issues, though |
| 20:56.32 | [SW]Dodge | How can i Check if i'm in a Battleground? And is there a way to check if i'm allowed to write in /o ? |
| 20:56.35 | Paene | I agree |
| 20:56.36 | dylanm | As long as he doesn't hire complete whackjobs to advise him on those other things it'd be fine. |
| 20:56.38 | CIA-3 | 03rabbit * r60427 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Move the addon declaration to the top, so we get a updated version field in case of errors in the main chunk. |
| 20:56.47 | CIA-3 | 03borlox * r60428 10/branches/CCopy/ (. CCopy.toc embeds.xml): |
| 20:56.47 | CIA-3 | CCopy: |
| 20:56.47 | CIA-3 | - added externals |
| 20:56.47 | CIA-3 | - fixed embeds.xml |
| 20:56.48 | CIA-3 | - updated toc |
| 20:56.54 | Paene | Huckabee won WV |
| 20:56.59 | dylanm | And I think Mitt is inclined to play it safe. I'd be happy with that. |
| 20:57.15 | Arrowmaster | [SW]Dodge: if select(2,IsInInstance()) == "pvp" then end |
| 20:57.26 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I think Obama will be a good contender, a nice breath of fresh air. I'm truly not fond of Clinton, though |
| 20:57.30 | CIA-3 | 03borlox * r60429 10CCopy/: |
| 20:57.30 | CIA-3 | CCopy: |
| 20:57.30 | CIA-3 | - since Ace3 is live, here is CCopy |
| 20:57.36 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
| 20:58.12 | Paene | I don't like Clinton at all |
| 20:58.23 | [SW]Dodge | Arrowmaster: thanks :) |
| 20:58.26 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 20:58.34 | Arrowmaster | when it comes to D vs R i usually lean towards Dem but dont like clinton |
| 20:58.40 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@60-241-56-168.tpgi.com.au) |
| 20:58.58 | Paene | If Hillary gets nominated |
| 20:59.03 | dashkal | Disclaimer: Canadian. Clinton seems to lean R herself... |
| 20:59.05 | Paene | I'd like to see McCain get nominated |
| 20:59.10 | ckknight | dashkal: oh yea |
| 20:59.17 | Paene | so I could vote for McCain over Clinton |
| 20:59.19 | Paene | lol |
| 20:59.31 | ckknight | Obama vs. McCain could be okay |
| 20:59.45 | Paene | I think it would be a close race tbh |
| 20:59.56 | ckknight | I agree |
| 21:00.01 | dylanm | I'm volunteering for Obama, and I'm a lifelong republican. |
| 21:00.02 | ckknight | I'd be relatively happy with either |
| 21:00.13 | Paene | I def think we need someone more moderate in office |
| 21:00.20 | ckknight | dylanm: I believe the Republicans have lost their way but able to find it again |
| 21:00.26 | Paene | which both Obama and McCain are somewhat moderate |
| 21:00.34 | Paene | in contrast to the other potential nominess |
| 21:00.37 | Paene | *nominees |
| 21:00.45 | [SW]Dodge | And is there a way to check if i'm allowed to write in officer chat /o ? |
| 21:00.59 | Ellipsis | did I just walk into #politics by mistake? |
| 21:01.03 | Paene | lol |
| 21:01.15 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 21:01.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 21:01.24 | Paene | I love politics, I almost majored in Poly Sci |
| 21:01.30 | ckknight | Paene: *shrug* I could make a fuss and a big political debate here, but I'd rather not ;-) |
| 21:01.32 | dashkal | Question: will AceSerializer-3.0 conflict with my rather large install base of Ace2 mods? |
| 21:01.40 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:01.55 | Paene | ckknight: agreed |
| 21:02.15 | Paene | is Ace3 out of beta now? |
| 21:02.23 | [Ammo] | it's just in beta |
| 21:02.27 | Paene | haha |
| 21:02.31 | Paene | I guess I could read the motd |
| 21:02.35 | Paene | that might help |
| 21:02.37 | Paene | :-p |
| 21:02.48 | ckknight | between my views of liberalism as a toned-down, pacifistic fascism and aberration of the GOP's recent authoritarian splurges, it'd just cause issues |
| 21:03.07 | Paene | ckknight: I think we'd agree on many points tbj |
| 21:03.09 | Paene | *tbh |
| 21:03.15 | dashkal | lol, I've never looked at my leanings quite that way, but that's pretty accurate :p |
| 21:03.16 | ckknight | hehe |
| 21:03.43 | ckknight | John Edwards was right about there being two Americas |
| 21:03.50 | ckknight | one with the American people, and one with Washington |
| 21:03.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:04.02 | Paene | lol |
| 21:04.13 | Paene | I'm interested to see who he endorses |
| 21:04.19 | Ellipsis | and now for something completely different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkqqMPPg2VI |
| 21:04.24 | ckknight | I think he'll hold off until after Super Tuesday |
| 21:04.38 | ckknight | because I believe his goal is to be either Vice President or on the cabinet of the nominee |
| 21:04.46 | ckknight | so he'll endorse the winner |
| 21:04.56 | Paene | yeah |
| 21:05.01 | ckknight | much in the same way as Huckabee has endorsed McCain |
| 21:05.20 | EvilJohn- | I think a cabinet post is possible, but I doubt he's going to get VP nod |
| 21:05.31 | EvilJohn- | his numbers were so lackluster |
| 21:05.42 | ckknight | EvilJohn-: I agree, there was talks of him being AG for Obama |
| 21:05.49 | Paene | A lot of people want an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket |
| 21:05.53 | Paene | but I doubt it'll happen |
| 21:06.11 | EvilJohn- | no way in hell that will happen |
| 21:06.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah no way |
| 21:06.15 | ckknight | I really, really doubt that |
| 21:06.21 | ckknight | that would be horrible for the Democrats |
| 21:06.25 | EvilJohn- | ckknight: that's a good possibility |
| 21:06.29 | EvilJohn- | (AG, i mean) |
| 21:06.34 | ckknight | EvilJohn-: yea, I agree |
| 21:06.37 | EvilJohn- | HUD possibly |
| 21:06.42 | ckknight | the GOP base will come out in droves against Clinton |
| 21:06.57 | ckknight | there are a lot of people who believe that Clinton is the greater evil, no matter what |
| 21:07.16 | EvilJohn- | I don't know about that, the "anti-" vote hasn't been terribly strong, historically |
| 21:07.16 | Paene | I just don't want a continuation of the Clinton/Bush legacies |
| 21:07.27 | EvilJohn- | the apathetic tend to say home |
| 21:07.29 | ckknight | so despite the GOP's fucked up history in the past 7 years, they'd rather grin and bear through another GOP than deal with another Clinton |
| 21:07.37 | Arrowmaster | bill was a good president |
| 21:07.44 | Paene | Bill was |
| 21:07.58 | CIA-3 | 03scorpion * r60430 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 21:07.58 | CIA-3 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 21:07.58 | CIA-3 | - zhTW update |
| 21:08.04 | Arrowmaster | hillary, i doubt it |
| 21:08.07 | ckknight | yea, but there will be a lot of negative campaigning if Clinton's on the ticket in some way |
| 21:08.09 | Paene | but I think part of having a voting process is to prevent one or two families ruling consistently |
| 21:08.18 | ckknight | Paene: yea |
| 21:08.19 | *** join/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@74.202.196.195) |
| 21:08.22 | EvilJohn- | the only thing I can say about bill clinton for president is he had enough sense to leave Alan Greenspan alone. |
| 21:08.24 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:08.53 | vhaarr | Hillary is a chick, of course she's the greater evil. |
| 21:08.57 | Paene | lol |
| 21:09.06 | ckknight | vhaarr: she gave Adam the Fruit of Knowledge! |
| 21:09.15 | vhaarr | ~slap hillary |
| 21:09.16 | purl | ACTION slaps hillary, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:09.16 | ckknight | now we're stuck with original sin because of her |
| 21:09.17 | ckknight | ...bitch |
| 21:09.20 | vhaarr | haha |
| 21:09.26 | Paene | lol |
| 21:09.42 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:10.41 | ckknight | (yes, I'm being facetious, I have no issues with the idea of a woman president) |
| 21:10.42 | *** join/#wowace Beherit (n=mcz@p50915EBF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:10.49 | Pkekyo| | STOP BEING SO BLOODY PREGNANT! |
| 21:11.12 | Paene | The main problem I see with Obama/Clinton are the race/gender issues...it'll be interesting to see if we've come far enough to truly look past them |
| 21:11.14 | vhaarr | I think this is probably the most interesting time in US politics I'll see during my lifetime. |
| 21:11.22 | vhaarr | a black man and a woman both in the top tier, it's unique |
| 21:11.25 | Ellipsis | we haven't, Paene |
| 21:11.26 | Beherit | hi there, anyone knows a mathematic way to round all numbers that are greater than x.00 to x+1.00? |
| 21:11.37 | EvilJohn- | it's going to be an interesting convention |
| 21:11.39 | Beherit | so also 4.12 to 5 |
| 21:11.46 | _rane | when will the election be? |
| 21:11.47 | Ellipsis | the fact that people see this as "a black man vs. a white woman" proves we haven't |
| 21:11.48 | EvilJohn- | a contested convention is going to be great TV |
| 21:11.53 | Arrowmaster | Beherit: math.ceil() |
| 21:11.58 | EvilJohn- | going to bunn out my DVR on tha tone |
| 21:12.07 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: fuck you, a nigger is one of my best friends |
| 21:12.14 | Pkekyo| | lmao |
| 21:12.20 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: just because I call him a black man or nigger doesn't mean I'm a racist |
| 21:12.23 | vhaarr | it's just the way it is |
| 21:12.29 | Ellipsis | and a bitch is one of mine! |
| 21:12.33 | vhaarr | haha |
| 21:12.36 | Pkekyo| | vhaarr: you forgot "get back in the kitchen, bitch!" :p |
| 21:12.39 | vhaarr | I said "woman" :P |
| 21:12.41 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:09] <@ckknight> now we're stuck with original sin because of her <-- |
| 21:12.43 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 21:12.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart ckknight |
| 21:12.46 | purl | pries ckknight's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to ckknight |
| 21:12.50 | sag_ich_nicht | don't highlight me D: |
| 21:12.56 | ckknight | ? |
| 21:13.02 | ckknight | highlight you? |
| 21:13.03 | vhaarr | ~slap sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:13.04 | purl | ACTION slaps sag_ich_nicht, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:13.04 | ckknight | oh. |
| 21:13.08 | Paene | Ellipsis: I disagree, imo...not looking at them as a black man and white woman would be stripping them of their individuality. I think it's an important thing to note, but not something that should affect votes. |
| 21:13.22 | NeoTron | except it will |
| 21:13.27 | ckknight | yea, it will |
| 21:13.32 | vhaarr | Paene: not looking at them as a black man and a woman would be a fucking huge mistake however you look at it |
| 21:13.32 | sag_ich_nicht | highlight on 'sin' for the german speaking channels i'm in |
| 21:13.33 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:13.36 | Ellipsis | Paene: tell that to the media |
| 21:13.37 | Pkekyo| | Paene: tbh, I just think you should stop being so bloody pregnant! |
| 21:13.37 | vhaarr | Paene: since that's exactly what they are |
| 21:13.46 | Paene | lol |
| 21:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | (you know, sag_ich_nicht) |
| 21:14.02 | Ellipsis | I explained it to him, sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:14.06 | Paene | Pkekyo|: did you just call me a woman? |
| 21:14.07 | Ellipsis | also we found a couple of your bugs |
| 21:14.16 | Ellipsis | like the cowtip positioning one |
| 21:14.21 | sag_ich_nicht | nice |
| 21:14.29 | Pkekyo| | Paene: no? how'd you figure I did that? |
| 21:14.33 | *** join/#wowace threeppps (n=cc-work@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:14.37 | Pkekyo| | I refered to Ellipsis as female though |
| 21:14.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i saw the jira issue closed about the description for the positioning |
| 21:14.57 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll reopen it when I feel in the mood to write a better description :P |
| 21:15.14 | sag_ich_nicht | (also from where do you know that highlight Ellipsis? :P) |
| 21:15.18 | Paene | you told me to stop being pregnant...unless I missed some new medical revelation and guys can get pregnant now |
| 21:15.22 | Paene | :-p |
| 21:15.27 | vhaarr | wait |
| 21:15.30 | vhaarr | maybe obama is gay |
| 21:15.39 | Pkekyo| | bwahahah |
| 21:15.44 | vhaarr | Paene: in which case he could adopt, for example |
| 21:15.50 | Pkekyo| | that'd be the day, a black homosexual in the white house |
| 21:15.51 | thul | wtfpwningthul is back |
| 21:15.56 | Pkekyo| | hai thul |
| 21:16.28 | Arrowmaster | im perty sure theres already been a homosexual in the white house |
| 21:16.41 | Paene | just not as president :-p |
| 21:16.46 | NeoTron | Paene: haven't you seen that devito/arnold flick? ;-0 |
| 21:16.47 | Arrowmaster | no as president |
| 21:16.48 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: a black homosexual woman who gets an abortion during the campaign and has a history of heroin abuse |
| 21:16.53 | Arrowmaster | one of the earlyer ones |
| 21:16.58 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: when that person is ellected, I'll stop badmouthing the US |
| 21:17.01 | Paene | NeoTron: nope |
| 21:17.10 | chiper | is that what they meant when Cheney "shot" his friend? |
| 21:17.15 | NeoTron | I don't recall the name right now |
| 21:17.23 | NeoTron | chiper: in the face! |
| 21:17.29 | EvilJohn- | Twins? |
| 21:17.30 | chiper | yes! |
| 21:17.32 | NeoTron | with a "shotgun" |
| 21:17.38 | Paene | :-O |
| 21:17.46 | NeoTron | makes so much sense now doesn't it? |
| 21:17.52 | Paene | it's all so clear! |
| 21:18.00 | Paene | chiper for president! |
| 21:18.08 | Pkekyo| | vhaarrPkekyo|: when that person is ellected, I'll stop badmouthing the US <--- agreed |
| 21:18.11 | chiper | lol |
| 21:18.12 | Paene | NeoTron for VP |
| 21:18.12 | *** join/#wowace Corgan (n=Corgan@udp139278uds.hawaiiantel.net) |
| 21:18.48 | Pkekyo| | your face for nuke target! |
| 21:19.00 | Ellipsis | /target Pkekyo| |
| 21:19.04 | Ellipsis | /cast Shadow Bolt |
| 21:19.32 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.44 | chiper | oh sweet, lunar festival |
| 21:21.35 | Pkekyo| | <insert clever smartass comment here> |
| 21:22.14 | Ozguli` | Pkekyo| lol, nice one |
| 21:23.19 | Ellipsis | /cast Shadow Ward |
| 21:23.21 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 21:24.09 | Pkekyo| | agreed Ozguli` |
| 21:24.22 | *** join/#wowace DuTempete (n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 21:24.22 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.31 | NeoTron | so when a trial raider in your bt-farming guild says, on kael'thas |
| 21:24.42 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: kick him in the nuts! |
| 21:24.48 | NeoTron | "sorry for disconnecting, my computer overheated so I sprayed it with liquid air to cool it down" |
| 21:25.05 | Pkekyo| | liquid oxygen? bwahahahaha |
| 21:25.08 | NeoTron | and then "I play with a 2 year old laptop, sitting on the couch with the latop literally in my lap" |
| 21:25.18 | NeoTron | well not liquid, compressed |
| 21:25.21 | NeoTron | typo on my part |
| 21:25.21 | Pkekyo| | please tell him to spray himself with some |
| 21:25.24 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:25.24 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 21:25.40 | NeoTron | maybe holding it upside down ? I dunno |
| 21:25.50 | rubik | haha.. so asked Slouken to post new 2.4 WoWCombatLog.txt file and he did: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=11 |
| 21:25.52 | NeoTron | in either case, who would admit raiding on such a questionable setup? :P |
| 21:26.04 | rubik | looks like fun stuff to decipher for WWS-type parsing |
| 21:26.15 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.20 | Pkekyo| | let's just hope he's wearing pants |
| 21:26.26 | rubik | buu: awake? |
| 21:26.33 | Pkekyo| | which reminds me: you should ask him if he wears pants |
| 21:27.48 | NeoTron | she, actually |
| 21:27.53 | EvilJohn- | that looks great |
| 21:28.01 | NeoTron | so no immediate risk of sterialization.. plus already have kid(s) :P |
| 21:28.42 | NeoTron | but still |
| 21:28.47 | NeoTron | she's not looking too good in trial |
| 21:28.52 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: if no: ask for pictures |
| 21:29.01 | NeoTron | she's married ! |
| 21:29.16 | Pkekyo| | doesn't mean she can't be hot. go ask for pictures! |
| 21:29.21 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 21:29.31 | buu | NO |
| 21:29.32 | buu | WHO ARE YOU |
| 21:29.33 | buu | WHAT |
| 21:29.49 | rubik | scroll up and take a look at link i posted |
| 21:30.02 | rubik | it has sample 2.4 combatlog for your uber parser and stuff |
| 21:30.26 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 21:30.26 | buu | Cool. |
| 21:30.27 | Fisker- | almost came |
| 21:30.32 | EvilJohn- | wut |
| 21:30.45 | buu | Unfortunately I got far more interested in parsing the psychotic previous wow log and now I'm bored of the project. |
| 21:30.52 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: PICTARZ NAOW |
| 21:31.04 | rubik | buu: doh! |
| 21:31.20 | buu | rubik: I don't believe it actually has any new information |
| 21:31.30 | buu | Just easier to parse. |
| 21:31.40 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: she could also be 400 lbs and hairy |
| 21:31.44 | NeoTron | you never know those things |
| 21:32.07 | threeppps | how do i make a /cast command where it will choose my mouseover first, if no mouseover then Target, if no target then player. |
| 21:32.20 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: valid point - ask if she's fat |
| 21:32.37 | Pkekyo| | threeppps: you write an addon |
| 21:32.44 | Fisker- | what would you guys say is needed to win Phase 5 @ kael'thas? |
| 21:32.54 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: sex |
| 21:32.56 | Pkekyo| | and lots of it |
| 21:32.57 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 21:33.07 | EvilJohn- | hm |
| 21:33.10 | genetik | Fisker-: focus.. it's clockwork at that point |
| 21:33.10 | NeoTron | Fisker-: getting to it/ |
| 21:33.12 | Pkekyo| | in other words, you'll have to arrange a guild orgy |
| 21:33.15 | EvilJohn- | in the zero G parts |
| 21:33.18 | EvilJohn- | that might be fun |
| 21:33.24 | Ellipsis | threeppps: /cast [target=mouseover,exists][exists][target=player] Spell of Doom |
| 21:33.30 | chiper | omg, omen is no joke, this dog is fucking us up! |
| 21:33.34 | Fisker- | i meant in terms of the amount of raiders you should atleast have up :P |
| 21:33.38 | threeppps | thanks ellipsis |
| 21:33.47 | genetik | heh.. they change him since two years ago? |
| 21:33.59 | buu | Fisker-: I usually do it with at least 33. |
| 21:34.08 | Tifi|wow | why would you cast a fricken Spell of Doom on yourself? |
| 21:34.18 | NeoTron | Fisker-: enough to heal the raid and not get overrun by phoenixes |
| 21:34.18 | EvilJohn- | i haven't killed Kael yet |
| 21:34.20 | EvilJohn- | i feel shame |
| 21:34.24 | genetik | EvilJohn-: all my fault |
| 21:34.25 | genetik | :( |
| 21:34.30 | EvilJohn- | ya |
| 21:34.38 | EvilJohn- | say away from the light! |
| 21:34.40 | NeoTron | we lost 10 ppl because the OT (one with the overhealing laptop) died |
| 21:34.41 | *** join/#wowace renchap (n=renchap@jaina.renchap.com) |
| 21:34.49 | NeoTron | andt he phoenix raped us right before the transition |
| 21:34.50 | mort | !points 1862 |
| 21:34.51 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 21:34.52 | NeoTron | that wasn't enough |
| 21:34.57 | mort | !rating 1862 |
| 21:34.58 | Xinhuan | 1862 rating gives 856(5s), 753(3s) and 651(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:34.59 | NeoTron | we lost too much DPS |
| 21:35.09 | cchome | Tifi|wow: just using as an eample |
| 21:35.09 | genetik | our last attempt last friday, we had him to 15% |
| 21:35.19 | cchome | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.54 | genetik | lost a bunch of people when a flame strike came up right under him as he started casting gravity lapse |
| 21:35.57 | Tifi|wow | i know, there's not even a Spell of Doom in the game ;) |
| 21:36.12 | EvilJohn- | we'll get him friday genetik |
| 21:36.21 | genetik | people with slower computers didn't have a chance |
| 21:36.29 | genetik | EvilJohn-: or tomorrow |
| 21:36.30 | genetik | i hope |
| 21:36.36 | EvilJohn- | i hope |
| 21:36.41 | EvilJohn- | I'll flaskup 1 hour in |
| 21:36.41 | NeoTron | genetik: funny |
| 21:36.46 | EvilJohn- | or 1:15 |
| 21:36.48 | NeoTron | that's like a "FU" move from him |
| 21:36.49 | EvilJohn- | something like that |
| 21:36.54 | EvilJohn- | assuming i'm in, of course |
| 21:37.00 | genetik | NeoTron: yeah, seriously |
| 21:37.01 | mort | !points 651 |
| 21:37.02 | Xinhuan | 651 arena points require 1729(5s), 1787(3s) and 1862(2s) team rating. |
| 21:37.59 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 21:37.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 21:41.40 | Pkekyo| | how far into s4 has stargate atlantis gotten now? |
| 21:42.08 | nevcairiel | 15 aired last week |
| 21:43.13 | *** join/#wowace threeppps (n=cc-work@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:43.27 | Pkekyo| | ending at 22 or something? |
| 21:46.01 | KivinSan | Can I not bind keys to the bartender3 pet bar? |
| 21:46.45 | vithos | i think it's "special action bar" in the keybinds |
| 21:46.47 | vithos | or something |
| 21:46.51 | *** join/#wowace Orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-96-52-105.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 21:46.58 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
| 21:46.58 | Orionshock | morning all |
| 21:46.59 | Orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11108.msg177230#msg177230 |
| 21:47.04 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 21:47.37 | Orionshock | in that post there is a debug output, question is how do i get the version number into the addon's name like aceEvent-2 has it there? |
| 21:50.15 | Pkekyo| | g'morning Ordog |
| 21:50.18 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: ** |
| 21:50.29 | kenlyric | Rumor has it this beige behemoth isn't made of plastic, but from the skulls of fallen Gurkhas |
| 21:50.50 | vhaarr | Orionshock: either make sure there's a global object with the same name as the addon folder that has a .version or .revision (or both) property, or make a global ADDONNAME_VERSION/_REVISION available |
| 21:51.52 | vhaarr | GuildCraft.version + GuildCraft.revision or GUILDCRAFT_VERSION and GUILDCRAFT_REVISION, if that wasn't clear enough |
| 21:52.06 | Orionshock | interesting ... |
| 21:52.31 | vhaarr | why is that interesting? |
| 21:52.45 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl) |
| 21:52.51 | *** join/#wowace threeppps (n=cc-work@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:53.24 | *** join/#wowace CIA-10 (n=CIA@208.69.182.149) |
| 21:54.07 | Ordog | mornin to you too Pkekyo| |
| 21:57.25 | *** join/#wowace Keias (i=Keias@c-69-245-192-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 21:57.58 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 21:57.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:58.23 | chiper | yay, we killed omen. they really beefed him up. quest is 55 but all my spells were resisting |
| 21:59.03 | Diao | omen? |
| 21:59.04 | Orionshock | vhaarr: thought it would be more complicated... |
| 21:59.15 | Orionshock | meh - off to work ttyl all |
| 21:59.15 | vhaarr | Orionshock: why is that? |
| 21:59.33 | Orionshock | << pessimist |
| 21:59.37 | vhaarr | your dots are really annoying, "..." after everything you say |
| 21:59.38 | vhaarr | always |
| 21:59.54 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle_ (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:00.11 | chiper | diao: raid boss for the lunar festival |
| 22:00.22 | Orionshock | talk to me in real life, you'd understand after a while :D |
| 22:01.02 | *** join/#wowace Lisimba (n=kaas@s55915088.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 22:01.39 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle`2 (n=Guillaum@195.167.228.58) |
| 22:03.43 | Adirelle | ckknight_: have you heard of cowtip making wow crashs when using the GUI to edit the lines ? |
| 22:04.09 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 22:04.12 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 22:04.16 | ckknight_ | yes, Ellipsis made a post on the wow forums with full code to reproduce, and Blizz's staff being as they are, no one has responded |
| 22:04.36 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: if you want it fixed, bump: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311167879&sid=1 |
| 22:05.04 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: would like, but I only have an EU account |
| 22:05.22 | Ellipsis | ah, kk |
| 22:05.35 | CIA-10 | 03rabbit * r60431 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Fix sitout whispers and some cleanup. |
| 22:06.20 | Adirelle | any workaround to configure cowtip (besides SV editing) ? |
| 22:06.48 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:07.20 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60432 10Quartz/Target/Target.lua: |
| 22:07.20 | CIA-10 | Quartz - fix target bar background |
| 22:07.20 | CIA-10 | (committing for Ellipsis until she gets her own account) |
| 22:08.15 | *** join/#wowace Miyari (n=Miyari@h127.10.255.206.cable.lngv.cablelynx.com) |
| 22:08.43 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60433 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip - remove the coloring until Blizz fixes the bug (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311167879&sid=1) |
| 22:09.56 | Adirelle | thx, I was just trying to do the same thing |
| 22:10.05 | sb | wtb new raid |
| 22:10.20 | sb | ppl are too fcuking stupid for illidan - 2% yesterday, today's best ~20% |
| 22:10.44 | EvilJohn- | i hate that |
| 22:11.31 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.47 | NeoTron | because compared to say archimonde and kael'thas I found illidan to be a lot less stupid-prone |
| 22:11.59 | Fisker- | ah |
| 22:12.01 | Fisker- | stupid luck |
| 22:12.33 | sb | tank shear, ~20k damage on tank at beginning p4 (i really have no idea what happened), parasites in p4 - hmm, thin thats it |
| 22:12.46 | NeoTron | ah stupid tank. we had hat problem too |
| 22:12.52 | NeoTron | but as by a miracle the tank never died |
| 22:12.57 | *** join/#wowace Thorgard (n=nogger@c-98-200-178-99.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 22:13.03 | NeoTron | wait why would the tank take damage in p4? |
| 22:13.07 | NeoTron | the lock tank should.. |
| 22:13.23 | NeoTron | or do you call p5 p4? :P |
| 22:13.58 | NeoTron | first time we made it to phase 5 (trap phase) we won |
| 22:14.08 | NeoTron | there's really nothing new there except more frequent parasites.. |
| 22:15.05 | sb | eh yes |
| 22:15.09 | sb | p3a, p3b ;) |
| 22:15.43 | sb | shadowsong paralyze -> 20k in 1.5s on tank, wipe |
| 22:16.10 | Fisker- | se luck, i cannot has it |
| 22:16.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 22:16.39 | NeoTron | shadowsong paralyze? huh? |
| 22:17.07 | Fisker- | Ellipsis is a warlock :( |
| 22:17.17 | Ellipsis | what did you think I was? |
| 22:17.29 | Fisker- | a warlock |
| 22:17.46 | Ellipsis | brilliant |
| 22:18.18 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:18.27 | Fisker- | i remember you told me some time :o |
| 22:18.36 | Fisker- | so just stating the obvious here |
| 22:18.40 | Fisker- | you has the same ip as ckknight_ |
| 22:18.43 | Fisker- | i smell drama |
| 22:18.52 | Ellipsis | ...fail? |
| 22:19.23 | Ellipsis | Fisker- what's your address, I want to see this rock you've been living under |
| 22:19.39 | Fisker- | Denmark |
| 22:21.22 | Ellipsis | that's not an address |
| 22:21.23 | Ellipsis | but whatever |
| 22:22.55 | sb | and well NeoTron |
| 22:23.05 | sb | NeoTron: that blue 30s stun :) |
| 22:23.08 | sb | on phase transition |
| 22:23.17 | sb | where maiev talks to illidan |
| 22:27.22 | NeoTron | right |
| 22:27.28 | NeoTron | that doesn't do any damage though |
| 22:27.32 | sb | right |
| 22:27.49 | NeoTron | the important part is to have everyobne in place before you hit 30% |
| 22:27.57 | sb | but right after that stun - illidan killed tank with 8k, 8k, 4k in 1.5s |
| 22:28.00 | NeoTron | and have the tank ready to shield wall or use other oh shit abilities |
| 22:28.05 | sb | before any heal could arrive |
| 22:28.37 | NeoTron | shield wall, last stand, pots, health stones |
| 22:28.40 | NeoTron | that's the time to use thenm |
| 22:29.04 | sb | see query :) |
| 22:30.06 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:32.58 | Tinyboom | ckknight_:ping |
| 22:33.07 | ckknight_ | pong |
| 22:35.04 | Tinyboom | ckknight_: I submitted a request regarding pitbull, thought it easier to answer here:p (party frames hiding optional hiding in bg-raids) reason is that it makes the screen very cluttered when you go pug bg's and don't care much for the group you are in.... |
| 22:35.33 | CIA-10 | 03feu * r60434 10Recount/locales/Recount-frFR.lua: |
| 22:35.33 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 22:35.33 | CIA-10 | - updated frFR localization |
| 22:36.03 | Ellipsis | Tinyboom, it's on jira, he'll get to it eventually |
| 22:36.20 | Tinyboom | Ellipsis: i know, and he commented on it:p |
| 22:36.24 | *** join/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-181-49.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 22:36.47 | Tinyboom | Ellipsis: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB-194 :p |
| 22:37.20 | Tinyboom | hence me answering the "why" ;) |
| 22:40.23 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 22:40.27 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:40.32 | *** join/#wowace khangg (n=khangg@dhcp-0-17-9a-33-6d-f5.cpe.quickclic.net) |
| 22:40.44 | Gnarfoz | Proximo's frame is ... just not there for me |
| 22:40.49 | Gnarfoz | where did it go? :( |
| 22:41.07 | Adirelle | ckknight_: vertical bars in pitbull are hot (and thanks again for cowtip quick fix) |
| 22:41.20 | khangg | does anyone's party/raid frames disappear when you join av? then you gotta reload your ui? |
| 22:43.06 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60435 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 22:43.06 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 22:43.06 | CIA-10 | - koKR update |
| 22:43.48 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: they'll be even hotter when he gets the texture rotation working :P |
| 22:43.59 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: hehe ^^ |
| 22:44.02 | NivFreak | vertical bars? |
| 22:44.03 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:44.04 | khangg | adirelle, :o i want vertical bars :( |
| 22:44.39 | Ellipsis | yes, pitbull has vertical bar support now |
| 22:44.57 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 22:44.57 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:45.23 | Adirelle | any chance you get rotate on text too ? |
| 22:45.32 | Adirelle | s/rotate/rotation/ |
| 22:45.37 | CIA-10 | 03rabbit * r60436 10BigWigs_TabletBars/TabletBars.lua: BigWigs_TabletBars: Tuneups and fixes. |
| 22:46.24 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: can't turn it sideways, no |
| 22:46.51 | Adirelle | erf, gotta get creative then |
| 22:48.29 | Gnarfoz | is there an easy way to find a frame by name? |
| 22:48.48 | khangg | hmm |
| 22:48.54 | khangg | perhaps i'll DL pitbull again |
| 22:49.15 | *** join/#wowace Byrdee (n=Byrdee@208.53.56.35) |
| 22:50.26 | *** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 22:50.53 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: what do you mean by "find" it? |
| 22:50.57 | Ellipsis | if you hvae its name, you have it :P |
| 22:51.05 | khangg | i think he means |
| 22:51.13 | khangg | like that /print GetFocus() thingy |
| 22:51.15 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: dunno, it's a local object, hence I can't simply access it globally, I guess |
| 22:51.28 | *** join/#wowace sedai| (i=Sedai3@c-24-9-157-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 22:51.42 | Ellipsis | indeed, you'd need to make something point to it that's globally accessible |
| 22:52.26 | Gnarfoz | I'm just very confused as to why Proximo simply *doesn't* appear on my screen :< |
| 22:52.26 | nevcairiel | if a frame has a name, that name is in the global table |
| 22:52.46 | nevcairiel | if it doesnt have a name, well goodluck :P |
| 22:54.02 | cncfanatics | most frames have a name |
| 22:54.07 | cncfanatics | even if only cuz CRAP blizzard funcs require them |
| 22:55.48 | ckknight | GetMouseFocus() |
| 22:55.54 | Gnarfoz | it's not on my scree |
| 22:55.55 | Gnarfoz | n |
| 22:56.24 | nevcairiel | if you know the name (and it has a name) you can simply access it using /script |
| 22:56.28 | Primer | Gnarfoz: my experience has been that it only shows up when you enter an arena |
| 22:56.33 | Gnarfoz | Primer: that's intended |
| 22:56.33 | Primer | but I presume you already knew this |
| 22:56.43 | Gnarfoz | also /prox test should make it appear even outside of arenas |
| 22:57.49 | Gnarfoz | other stuff it does works fine, but the major thing (the enemy hp bars) is missing ;\ |
| 23:03.31 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 23:03.46 | *** join/#wowace Zarhan (n=kjetil@216-79-202.7003.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 23:05.02 | Primer | It seems that most examples I'm finding regarding events involve the frame of the addon. But what if I wanted to capture a right mouse click in the...UIParent? |
| 23:05.33 | Primer | I mean to say, a right mouse click in the play area...where there's no button or anything else |
| 23:06.20 | Ellipsis | you can't |
| 23:06.24 | Ellipsis | why would you want to? |
| 23:07.03 | Primer | it would allow me to make my addon's pitch display be true |
| 23:07.28 | Primer | unless there's a way to change the camera pitch angle AND actual player orientation at the same time |
| 23:08.15 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-104-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 23:08.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:09.52 | *** join/#wowace trankillity (n=trankill@124-171-200-42.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:10.18 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.20) |
| 23:10.27 | trankillity | hiya all, got a bit of a query which i'm hoping someone can help me with |
| 23:10.34 | Adirelle | cya |
| 23:10.51 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60437 10PitBull/ (10 files in 9 dirs): |
| 23:10.51 | CIA-10 | PitBull - use a system of fake status bars instead of real ones, update all modules to use that. |
| 23:10.51 | CIA-10 | - move reverse option from modules into MetaLayout. |
| 23:11.53 | Mergitur | I'm trying to write a small Bigwigs module (to auto change loot to ML when we engage a boss and back to group when we he's dead/we wipe). Is there any way I can test the addon withotu actually being inside MH? |
| 23:11.57 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60438 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: |
| 23:11.57 | CIA-10 | Threat-1.0: |
| 23:11.57 | CIA-10 | - koKR update |
| 23:12.27 | trankillity | so I basically want to have my pitbull player frame hidden unless one of 3 conditions are met. 1) I have a target selected, 2) I have < 100% health/mana, 3) I enter combat. Anyone know how I'd do that? I understand it'd have to be external to pitbull but that doesn't bother me |
| 23:12.41 | Ellipsis | trankillity: enable teh combatfader module |
| 23:12.59 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-181-49.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 23:13.59 | trankillity | last time I used combat fader it sucked a big one, kept flickering in and out at random intervals. that also doesn't solve the "target selected, health < 100%" thing |
| 23:14.09 | trankillity | was kinda hoping for a script/event based solution |
| 23:14.16 | trankillity | kinda like visor with events |
| 23:15.17 | trankillity | woah, looks like someone's been improving it.... that actually does solve everything I'm looking for |
| 23:15.23 | trankillity | <- feel stupid for not trying earlier |
| 23:15.51 | Ellipsis | hehe, yeah, it's been updated |
| 23:16.06 | Ellipsis | and if you get flickering frames make sure you don't have both rangecheck and combatfader enabled on the same frame |
| 23:16.08 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:16.15 | Ellipsis | because they will try to fight over the alpha value |
| 23:16.49 | trankillity | yeah, i only need it for player frame so will use combatfader for that and range check for everything else |
| 23:16.55 | trankillity | but... just discovered a bug |
| 23:16.59 | Ellipsis | oh? |
| 23:17.10 | thul | alpha male |
| 23:17.12 | trankillity | the "not at max health/mana" setting doesn't work because it doesn't seem to be registering UNIT_MANA as an event |
| 23:17.29 | trankillity | it kicks in if you switch targets, but not if you simply cast a spell |
| 23:18.20 | trankillity | and likewise, when mana returns to full it doesn't go to the "out of combat" fade value |
| 23:20.01 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 23:20.22 | trankillity | best place to report said bug in the forum post? |
| 23:20.43 | Ellipsis | no, post it on jira |
| 23:21.14 | trankillity | jira? new bugtracker? where would one find a link for it, the pitbull wiki still links to Trac |
| 23:21.37 | Pkekyo| | jira.wowace.com? dunno |
| 23:25.34 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60439 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - possible fix to automatic enabling of modules |
| 23:27.20 | *** join/#wowace Ozguli (n=probli@e83-245-142-211.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 23:29.26 | vithos | anybody notice that the "movers" module for simpleMinimap doesn't move all that stuff until you enable it, after a relog? |
| 23:29.33 | vithos | kind of useless :( |
| 23:29.47 | Pkekyo| | tried /rl ? |
| 23:29.57 | vithos | yeah, i mean after a /rl |
| 23:30.04 | vithos | the stuff isn't moved |
| 23:30.06 | NivFreak | vithos: it's worse than that |
| 23:30.07 | Pkekyo| | wellt hat sucks |
| 23:30.18 | NivFreak | if it's ever disabled |
| 23:30.21 | vithos | unless you leave it enabled, which makes all the frames have mouse input |
| 23:30.22 | NivFreak | they revert to the original position |
| 23:30.24 | vithos | which is horrible |
| 23:30.25 | NivFreak | yep |
| 23:30.27 | NivFreak | it's useless |
| 23:30.47 | *** join/#wowace masanbol (n=masanbol@c-98-198-102-241.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:31.02 | Ellipsis | what are you guys talking about? it works fine for me |
| 23:31.09 | vithos | you mean if movers is disabled or if the addon itself is disabled? |
| 23:31.10 | NivFreak | so if you enable movers |
| 23:31.11 | NivFreak | move shit |
| 23:31.13 | NivFreak | and uncheck it |
| 23:31.16 | NivFreak | they stay where you moved them? |
| 23:31.23 | Ellipsis | no, that disables movers |
| 23:31.27 | NivFreak | right |
| 23:31.30 | NivFreak | but if they are enabled |
| 23:31.33 | Ellipsis | you enable movers, move shit, and then lock the minimap |
| 23:31.33 | NivFreak | you can click and drag them |
| 23:31.37 | Ellipsis | that locks the movers too |
| 23:31.40 | NivFreak | orly |
| 23:31.42 | NivFreak | ok |
| 23:31.43 | Ellipsis | yarly |
| 23:31.44 | NivFreak | I'm useless |
| 23:31.55 | vithos | oh wow |
| 23:31.59 | vithos | you're right. |
| 23:32.12 | NivFreak | that's an awkward workflow without explaination |
| 23:32.12 | Ellipsis | stop doing it wrong, nubs :P |
| 23:32.13 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:32.14 | vithos | man, that's been bugging me for months |
| 23:32.19 | NivFreak | vithos: same, haha |
| 23:32.26 | vithos | probably like 9 months or something |
| 23:32.30 | Ellipsis | makes perfect sense to me... |
| 23:32.39 | Ellipsis | the movers module moves stuff. if you disable movers, it stops moving stuff |
| 23:32.49 | vithos | yeah but disabling movers does what you want |
| 23:32.55 | CIA-10 | 03stan * r60440 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 23:32.55 | CIA-10 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua |
| 23:32.55 | CIA-10 | - germany is now "Well Fed" :p |
| 23:32.56 | vithos | until you reloadui or relog |
| 23:33.05 | NivFreak | it doesn't even do that for me |
| 23:33.09 | NivFreak | they move back immediately |
| 23:33.13 | vithos | hm |
| 23:33.18 | vithos | they stay in place for me |
| 23:33.46 | vithos | and if i reenable movers after having disabled it and relogged, it still knows where i put them |
| 23:34.21 | Pkekyo| | vithos: get squeenix :p |
| 23:35.33 | vithos | i've tried squeenix, didn't do all the stuff i need |
| 23:35.52 | vithos | but now that i locked the minimap, simpleMinimap does exactly what i want now |
| 23:36.37 | NivFreak | the only thing that bugs me about simpleminimap now, is the gap you have to leave at the right of the screen |
| 23:36.39 | khangg | i use ricominimap :) |
| 23:36.40 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:36.45 | Ellipsis | what gap? |
| 23:36.52 | NivFreak | although, that might not be an issue if I can use movers now :) |
| 23:37.07 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: which skin do you use? |
| 23:37.19 | NivFreak | it's mentioned in one of the commits |
| 23:37.31 | NivFreak | if the frame is drawn right up to the edge, there's some sort of display bug |
| 23:37.47 | Ellipsis | I use thin square with the border disabled |
| 23:38.24 | NivFreak | I'm using the upper right skin, with it flush against the right side |
| 23:38.27 | NivFreak | well |
| 23:38.28 | NivFreak | in theory |
| 23:39.00 | khangg | just use ricominimap :) |
| 23:39.07 | NivFreak | why? :P |
| 23:40.31 | Ellipsis | well mine draws fine against any edge |
| 23:40.41 | Ellipsis | I've used it at top right before and currently top left |
| 23:41.14 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: I can't remember now, but there is something that justifies itself off of the minimap position that goes off screen, if you make it flush |
| 23:41.28 | NivFreak | because there's an intentional gap |
| 23:41.34 | NivFreak | I suspect it was quest text |
| 23:41.38 | NivFreak | which can be fixed with movers ;) |
| 23:44.23 | *** join/#wowace TNSe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.5.getinternet.no) |
| 23:53.23 | Mergitur | Is it possible to use the BigWigs Debugger module to emulate a bossencounter? |
| 23:53.34 | *** join/#wowace Health (n=thecooki@c-e11ae655.132-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 23:54.26 | vhaarr | Mergitur: that question can't be answered in less than 20 lines of text, please ask something else |
| 23:54.37 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:55.50 | Mergitur | vhaarr: hehe. That's a fair answer. |
| 23:56.30 | *** join/#wowace InSAT (n=marco@host252-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:58.09 | Mergitur | vhaarr: I want to test out a module I'm trying to write (to change loot in MH to ML when we encounter a boss and back to group when we're done/wipe). Can I test the addon outside MH? If the answer is too long for that too. Is there any page with good documentation of the bigwigs debugger module? |
| 23:58.46 | vhaarr | the debugger can't help you with this, you just have to invoke functions on your modules manually |
| 23:59.06 | vhaarr | through /script |
| 23:59.10 | Mergitur | ok. Thanks for the answer |
| 23:59.15 | Mergitur | ah, of course :) |
