| 00:00.05 | zonk | tifi: it seems that what i wanted to do is too complicated for the relatively little time it would save me :p |
| 00:01.25 | kebinusan | A Dallas newspaper is claiming that the long-in-development title Duke Nukem Forever is headed for retail release in late 2008 |
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| 00:01.37 | kebinusan | well we now know when the world will end |
| 00:01.42 | zonk | i guess i'm just a little frustrated by the stupid puggers who still don't get which target to poly after an hour |
| 00:02.03 | Lukian | zonk, a) don't take two mages b) use class colours for raid targets |
| 00:02.07 | Pkekyo| | zonk: then you're just grouped with retards, and screwed either way |
| 00:02.12 | Lukian | c) don't run with retards :p |
| 00:02.25 | zonk | we'll never see duke nukem forever imo |
| 00:02.27 | Pkekyo| | kebinusan: they're most likely the same newspaper that announced that DN:FE was to be released back in '98 or whatever too :p |
| 00:02.51 | zonk | if only there was some idiocy rating in wow, based on which you could filter group invites :( |
| 00:03.01 | zonk | hey now that's a good addon idea |
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| 00:03.32 | NightHawkTheSane | been done |
| 00:03.34 | Pkekyo| | 20-page IQ test before you can reach the logon-screen, have to score 130+ to log in |
| 00:03.55 | zonk | name please :) |
| 00:04.03 | Pkekyo| | "God help him, I wouldn't fuck her with a stolen dick" :p |
| 00:04.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hell if i know, but i've seen at least one player rating addon around |
| 00:04.15 | zonk | lol |
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| 00:05.17 | zonk | oh karma! |
| 00:05.29 | zonk | that's the one |
| 00:05.53 | zonk | just a little outdated |
| 00:06.46 | Tem | that and NO ONE uses it |
| 00:07.09 | zonk | hmm i remember using that a while ago |
| 00:07.15 | Pkekyo| | zonk: just get AuldLangSyne and rate people in comments by: A) This guy is fucking stupid!, B) He's fairly intelligent - Ah, he's full of shit!, and C) Now this guy is not stupid, he's not full of shit. HE'S FUCKING NUTS |
| 00:07.15 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 00:07.39 | kd3 | news fresh out of the UI forum: "The Raid UI now can display the range of players relative to you. The option to enable this is in the Party & Raid section of the UI Options." |
| 00:07.45 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&pageNo=13&sid=1#249 |
| 00:07.47 | Pkekyo| | kd3: old |
| 00:08.02 | Pkekyo| | you're about 20-25min late |
| 00:08.05 | zonk | Pkekyo|: i do that already :p |
| 00:08.23 | Pkekyo| | zonk: then you're set up for pugging until oblivion! |
| 00:08.39 | Pkekyo| | easiest thing would be to just /ignore the people that qualify for either A, B or both though :p |
| 00:09.03 | zonk | pkekyo|: i'd need a longer ignore list! |
| 00:09.26 | Pkekyo| | zonk: files.wowace.com ---> IgnoreMore <3 |
| 00:09.39 | zonk | awesome |
| 00:09.43 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 00:09.43 | Lukian | kd3, awesome! |
| 00:09.45 | Pkekyo| | saved my life |
| 00:10.17 | ulic | also if you ignore all the asdkfdfigogir type user names, you can periodically clean them out as the characters get deleted by blizzard. |
| 00:11.06 | Pkekyo| | wtf is 'the windshield factor'? |
| 00:11.25 | zonk | my list is full even without the gold sellers :) |
| 00:11.34 | Pkekyo| | same :) ignoremore ftw<3 |
| 00:11.39 | ulic | wow alot of people must annoy you :) |
| 00:11.49 | Pkekyo| | yes |
| 00:12.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sure the feeling there is mutual, too/. |
| 00:12.17 | zonk | jaedenar can be a pain to pug on somethimes |
| 00:12.39 | NeoTron | It can be a pain to solo too |
| 00:13.14 | Pkekyo| | jaedenar? the satyr place? |
| 00:13.37 | Pkekyo| | :/ |
| 00:13.50 | Pkekyo| | oh, yeah, I forgot... NightHawkTheSane: fuck you :) |
| 00:14.03 | zonk | they named a server after that place |
| 00:14.27 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 00:15.02 | NeoTron | there's this rogue that tries to get into our guild |
| 00:15.13 | NeoTron | low level of gear and wants to come in as a 10-man raider |
| 00:15.28 | NeoTron | had to ignore him after he continued asking / begging to join |
| 00:15.39 | Mudkipz | ah beggars |
| 00:15.46 | Mudkipz | gotta love to ignore em |
| 00:16.03 | kenlyric | if only i could go to karazhan without fucking around in 5 man instances with idiots. |
| 00:16.21 | kenlyric | straight up quest greenin it, yo |
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| 00:17.51 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: there are quests with blue rewards too :p |
| 00:18.11 | kenlyric | they usually require other people |
| 00:18.27 | kenlyric | though generally retards in groups can get them done |
| 00:18.29 | NivFreak | kenlyric: you get to deal with 9 other idiots in kara |
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| 00:18.39 | kenlyric | NivFreak: *guild* idiots |
| 00:18.48 | NivFreak | so get the guild idiots to run 5 mans with you |
| 00:19.14 | kenlyric | fat chance |
| 00:19.53 | kenlyric | look, I don't have anything in the fake/real patch notes to bitch about tonight, and I don't want to feel left. SO I NEED SOMETHING! |
| 00:20.16 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:20.32 | NivFreak | Bibi`: you should randomly add stuff to those notes |
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| 00:24.53 | NivFreak | what happened in pitbull to give me extra bars on my target frame suddenly? :) |
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| 00:27.06 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: simple: you screwed something up :> |
| 00:27.13 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|: I changed nothing! |
| 00:27.24 | Pkekyo| | well...YOUR FACE! :p |
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| 00:30.56 | snegoviK | hey guys how can i add a new function to existing meta table? |
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| 00:32.47 | potemkin | how do i make a texture appear in front of a frame |
| 00:32.49 | sb_ | hmm those patch notes look like it is some fake |
| 00:33.04 | sb_ | Envenom no longer consumes the Poison applications. <-- clearly OP :o |
| 00:33.23 | Diao | it's all fake |
| 00:33.27 | MySpoons2Big | snegoviK: I think so. Just call 'local var = getmetatable(myTable)', then do 'var.newFunction = myFunction'. |
| 00:33.52 | sb_ | Diao: yeah, i mean - thats the point where it gets really obvious |
| 00:33.57 | snegoviK | MySpoons2Bigs: thnx will try that now |
| 00:34.46 | snegoviK | it works! thnx :D |
| 00:39.12 | Pkekyo| | "We're not handicapped, we're handicapable!" bwahahahahahahahah |
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| 00:40.49 | theoddone33 | we all know that blizzard is incapable of buffing rogue builds that aren't subtlety |
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| 00:42.40 | Thorgard | Can't buff god. |
| 00:43.32 | theoddone33 | so crazy that they'd give iceblock to mages specifically to open up the possibility of non-frost specs in arena, then stack the rogue trees so heavily so that most rogues go sub |
| 00:43.59 | theoddone33 | but oh well, balance isn't their objective |
| 00:44.14 | Rayden | haven't they said they want all specs to be viable for pvp and pve? |
| 00:44.26 | Rayden | they don't want one 'leveling spec' 'raiding spec' 'pvp spec' |
| 00:44.49 | Rayden | although something like Protection is a huge problem for that |
| 00:45.19 | NivFreak | that'd be awesome to arena as a prot warrior :) |
| 00:45.26 | NivFreak | I mean, I sometimes do that now |
| 00:45.33 | NivFreak | but only when I plan to lose 10 games |
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| 00:48.38 | Estil | cheat death lol |
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| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | 03peragor * r60527 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | - Fixed default settings so they actually work (thanks Pasta) |
| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | - Added in layout sorting option |
| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | - Moved MaxColumns & Warnings in to an advanced submenu |
| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | - Cleaned up "psudo events) to control triggering unecessary code |
| 00:51.01 | CIA-10 | - Fixed incombatlockdown refreshed |
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| 00:51.53 | kneeki | Can someone take a look at: http://www.wowi.pastey.net/81850 and give me a heads up why the first for loop gives me the error 'Invalid spell slot in SetSpell' at line 32, while the 2nd for loop works perfectly? |
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| 00:54.26 | kneeki | Also, when clicked, the buttons cast the right spells, it's just the tooltips that return errors. |
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| 00:58.50 | [dRaCo] | been wondering for a while if there's some kind of wishlist addon |
| 00:59.06 | [dRaCo] | one that let's you store items you want to get |
| 00:59.08 | CIA-10 | 03morgalm * r60528 10MorgDKP/ (LootTablet.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
| 00:59.08 | CIA-10 | MorgDKP: |
| 00:59.08 | CIA-10 | - Added ignored item scanning to loottablet (won't open for ignored items) |
| 00:59.13 | sb_ | atlasloot has that feature |
| 01:00.01 | [dRaCo] | aight, thanks... anything with just that feature? |
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| 01:00.48 | sb_ | no idea :) |
| 01:01.23 | [dRaCo] | guess I'll check out atlasloot |
| 01:02.37 | [dRaCo] | would be pretty easy to implement using some fubar dropdown thingy, wouldnt it? |
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| 01:02.57 | Tifi | sb_, how do you use that wishlist in al? |
| 01:03.02 | Kreiger | hullo. |
| 01:03.32 | Tifi | ah alt-click |
| 01:03.49 | Kreiger | I'm looking for a tip addon that will allow me to see the various debuffs on my targets and the number of them.. I.E How many sunders i have on a target via mouseover |
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| 01:09.54 | Ellipsis | Kreiger: you can do that with cowtip |
| 01:10.01 | Kreiger | It shows stacks now? |
| 01:10.15 | Kreiger | I use.. um.. tinytip i think and it shows debuffs but not stacks |
| 01:11.39 | Kreiger | Ellipsis? |
| 01:11.47 | Ellipsis | you can use DogTags for that |
| 01:11.57 | Ellipsis | it will be a text display, not icons, but same idea |
| 01:12.09 | Kreiger | text display on the tooltip? |
| 01:12.28 | Pkekyo| | kekekekekkekeke |
| 01:12.41 | Pkekyo| | Kreiger: yes, are you fucking dense? :p |
| 01:12.46 | Kreiger | Yes. |
| 01:12.49 | Kreiger | yes i am. |
| 01:12.50 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 01:12.55 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.59 | Kreiger | been a long day. |
| 01:13.10 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 01:14.28 | Kreiger | i have tip buddy atm. ima go test dogtags. doesn't seem to be a wowace mod I see dogtag which provide markup syntax for unit frame fontstrings.. whatever that is. |
| 01:14.35 | kneeki | Hmm, something odd. |
| 01:15.20 | kneeki | BarToUse[] is changing from one line, out of the SetScript() to the next. the local i is changing |
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| 01:16.19 | Ellipsis | Kreiger: dogtags can be displayed using several different addons, for tooltips you want CowTip |
| 01:16.38 | Kreiger | gracias |
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| 01:18.35 | Tifi | was there an announcement in the forums about Ace3 going beta? |
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| 01:28.13 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60529 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull_CastBar - fix a possible bug |
| 01:28.20 | Kreiger | Looks like i need to read up on dogtag. it looks intricate |
| 01:28.22 | ckknight | ~seen xbeeps |
| 01:28.26 | purl | i haven't seen 'xbeeps', ckknight |
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| 01:28.28 | ckknight | Kreiger: I have ingame documentation |
| 01:28.34 | ckknight | Kreiger: type /dog |
| 01:28.40 | Kreiger | ahh. cool ckk. |
| 01:28.41 | Ellipsis | woof? |
| 01:28.58 | Kreiger | I'm just trying to find a way to count how many sunders is on mouseover |
| 01:29.03 | ckknight | heel. |
| 01:29.06 | Kreiger | looks like it should be fun. |
| 01:29.22 | ckknight | Kreiger: oh, sorry, not coded that yet |
| 01:29.26 | ckknight | I'm thinking about coding it |
| 01:29.38 | ckknight | there's [HasAura(Sunder)] |
| 01:29.44 | ckknight | could make [NumAura(Sunder)] |
| 01:30.05 | Kreiger | Oh. well, tipbuddy shows the current debuffs in icon form. |
| 01:30.38 | Kreiger | Which is what i was using. so i can grab, say, 4 mobs and go "ok. these 2 have sunder, these 2 don't so i have to sunder them. |
| 01:30.40 | Kreiger | for example |
| 01:30.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:30.59 | Kreiger | i'd LIKE to know how many sunders so i can spread it out. |
| 01:31.07 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:31.12 | Kreiger | since i tend to tank aoe style as a warrior |
| 01:31.19 | ckknight | Kreiger: psh |
| 01:31.24 | ckknight | leave that for the pally tanks |
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| 01:31.28 | Kreiger | I don't honestly know how universally useful such a thing is. |
| 01:31.37 | Kreiger | ckknight, no. I do heroic shattered halls runs with no CC. |
| 01:31.46 | Kreiger | i'm not stopping now. i just did Kara with no offtank |
| 01:32.35 | kenlyric | the makers of gridalert need to include an alternate sound for aggro: cowbell |
| 01:34.07 | Kreiger | ckknight, i tink i'll go back to tipbuddy for now. I'll def keep an eye on this stuff tho. I don't suppose you have any screenshots of dogtags in action tho, do you? kind of hard for a plebe like myself to wrap my head around. |
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| 01:46.14 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth * r60530 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (PetInfoFu.lua PetInfoFuLocals-enUS.lua): FuBar_PetInfoFu: Add option to hide the mend pet frame, because some of us have timer bar addons that track it. |
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| 01:54.45 | Bruners | routes is really fantastic! |
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| 02:14.44 | Tifi | ~seen Mikk |
| 02:14.46 | purl | mikk <n=Administ@WoWUIDev/mikk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 29d 7h 58m 23s ago, saying: '!'. |
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| 02:18.42 | Pkekyo| | aw shite |
| 02:18.45 | Pkekyo| | it's only 3am? |
| 02:18.58 | Pkekyo| | I'm screwed |
| 02:20.40 | kneeki | Should 'return _G(tableName)' work, given the tableName exists? Or am I doing that wrong? |
| 02:21.00 | kneeki | or is it only to be used when returning an item in the table |
| 02:21.14 | vhaarr | _G[] |
| 02:21.19 | kneeki | oh |
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| 02:21.23 | kneeki | -_- |
| 02:21.28 | vhaarr | _G is a table, not a function |
| 02:21.37 | kneeki | well |
| 02:21.46 | dylanm | getglobal is a function :p |
| 02:21.53 | kneeki | I'd like to use a function to return a table name |
| 02:21.57 | kneeki | basicly |
| 02:22.31 | kneeki | I'm using string.gsub(tableName, "1", "2") and then using _G[tableName] so I can now use that new table |
| 02:22.50 | kneeki | Which, I hope I can do =P |
| 02:22.55 | Tifi | tables don't have names, they are just tables. when you assign a table to a variable, that variable has a name, and holds a reference to the table |
| 02:22.57 | dylanm | That's what it's there for. |
| 02:22.57 | vhaarr | sounds like you don't have the faintest clue what you're doing |
| 02:23.10 | kneeki | lol |
| 02:23.15 | kneeki | Nope, basicly I dont |
| 02:23.26 | kneeki | I've never been to school for Lua, I've taught myself |
| 02:23.32 | kneeki | so I learn through many, many errors. |
| 02:23.55 | dylanm | Why are you doing this, out of curiosity? |
| 02:24.06 | kneeki | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/81852 |
| 02:24.08 | dylanm | Because it seems like... I mean if all of this is code you control then you're doing something very strange. |
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| 02:24.11 | kneeki | that's my little function |
| 02:24.12 | chiper | is there a prat module to alter friend signon messages |
| 02:24.14 | chiper | ? |
| 02:24.15 | Arrowmaster | i doubt anybody here has learned lua in a class |
| 02:24.22 | kneeki | lol |
| 02:24.29 | Arrowmaster | since its not java or .net |
| 02:24.30 | kneeki | I'm doing it becase I enjoy coding |
| 02:24.36 | kneeki | & writing my own addons |
| 02:24.38 | Arrowmaster | and those are like the only things schools teach now |
| 02:24.42 | Tifi | i went to a private lua school |
| 02:25.02 | dylanm | kneeki: tostring() doesn't get you a global variable name associated with a value, which I think is what you're taking it to mean. |
| 02:25.04 | vhaarr | kneeki: that function is useless |
| 02:25.19 | kneeki | lol, well then |
| 02:25.24 | kneeki | any ideas how I can make one work? =P |
| 02:25.34 | vhaarr | we don't have a clue what you're trying to do |
| 02:25.39 | kneeki | Well |
| 02:25.51 | dylanm | You don't want to be trying to infer variable names from values. |
| 02:25.57 | Tifi | kneeki, the documentation of that function would be more interesting than the code =) (i.e. what are you trying to do there) |
| 02:26.02 | kneeki | rofl |
| 02:26.09 | kneeki | Okay, I'll attempt to explain it |
| 02:26.13 | dylanm | What's your goal here |
| 02:26.41 | kneeki | My addon is currently very repetative, the same code over and over, with nothing but a few changes to which table to grab data from |
| 02:26.51 | kneeki | I want to clean it up, and make it more efficient |
| 02:26.59 | vhaarr | local tblA = {} |
| 02:27.08 | vhaarr | local tblB = {} |
| 02:27.11 | vhaarr | local usedTable = nil |
| 02:27.22 | kneeki | basicly |
| 02:27.24 | kneeki | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/81854 |
| 02:27.29 | vhaarr | if usedTable == tblA then usedTable = tblB else usedTable = tblA end |
| 02:27.29 | kneeki | I have that, currently. |
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| 02:27.46 | kneeki | Over and over again, eventually I'd like to add all classes to that, as you can see, it will get ugly fast w/o change |
| 02:27.51 | dylanm | Why does it switch |
| 02:28.08 | kneeki | Each table is within a table |
| 02:28.18 | kneeki | One sec, i'll show you |
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| 02:28.37 | kneeki | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/81855 |
| 02:28.58 | kneeki | each ...Bar1 can have a max of 12 spells |
| 02:29.06 | kneeki | these are a list of buttons I am creating |
| 02:29.41 | kneeki | To clean it up, I'd like some way to easily go to the next table w/o a bunch of code |
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| 02:30.09 | vhaarr | spells = { PALADIN = { {"bar1item1", ...}, {"bar2item1", ...} }, WARRIOR = { ... } } |
| 02:30.22 | kneeki | Yeah, that's what I have |
| 02:30.30 | kneeki | well, sort of |
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| 02:30.51 | vhaarr | for i, bar in ipairs(spells[(select(2, UnitClass("player")))]) do ... end |
| 02:32.44 | Tifi | kneeki, do you know that you can write ClassButtonsSpells.PaladinBar1 as ClassButtonsSpells['PaladinBar1'] or even ClassButtonsSpells['PaladinBar'..1]? |
| 02:33.09 | kneeki | Yes |
| 02:33.17 | kneeki | Well... |
| 02:33.26 | kneeki | I guess I didn't realize ClassButtonsSpells['PaladinBar'..1 |
| 02:34.11 | vhaarr | you don't need to know that if you use my table format |
| 02:34.23 | Tifi | you could store the number of your table in a variable, say num, then use it in ClassButtonsSpells['PaladinBar'..num] |
| 02:34.24 | Bruners | haste: ping |
| 02:34.38 | Tifi | or go with a different table layout, as vhaarr suggested |
| 02:34.41 | kneeki | hmm |
| 02:34.52 | kneeki | Is there a 'best' layout to use? |
| 02:34.57 | vhaarr | yes, mine |
| 02:34.58 | vhaarr | wake up |
| 02:34.59 | kneeki | Or by preference/situation |
| 02:35.00 | kneeki | lol |
| 02:35.04 | Tifi | lol |
| 02:35.14 | dylanm | Whatever makes your code look nicer. |
| 02:35.49 | Tifi | do you even need the warlock bars if the player is a paladin? |
| 02:35.58 | dylanm | I guess you can talk about performance too but ehhh. |
| 02:36.02 | kneeki | No Tifi |
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| 02:36.22 | kneeki | I didn't want to polute the global table thing though |
| 02:36.28 | kneeki | which is a big deal I hear |
| 02:36.32 | dylanm | Clean code is what drives the chicks wild. |
| 02:36.41 | vhaarr | just copy what I gave you and be happy, jesus |
| 02:36.42 | Tifi | lol |
| 02:36.43 | dylanm | I don't see why any of this would have to be global. |
| 02:37.02 | kneeki | vhaarr, I am. I'm converting it over in my code now =P |
| 02:37.13 | vhaarr | for i, bar in ipairs(spells[(select(2, UnitClass("player")))]) do for _, button in ipairs(bar) do self:CreateButton(button) end end |
| 02:37.49 | vhaarr | eh, forgot the bar id |
| 02:37.55 | vhaarr | for i, bar in ipairs(spells[(select(2, UnitClass("player")))]) do for _, button in ipairs(bar) do self:CreateButton(id, button) end end |
| 02:37.59 | vhaarr | ffs |
| 02:38.05 | vhaarr | s/id/i/ |
| 02:38.42 | Pkekyo| | huh...the feeling of a knife being thrusted into my flesh sure woke me up |
| 02:39.06 | nymbia | that'll do it |
| 02:39.29 | Pkekyo| | not quite sure wether or not it's a good thing though :p |
| 02:39.35 | dylanm | The "don't pollute the global namespace" thing is usually first-time authors not putting "local" in front of anything. |
| 02:39.54 | nymbia | locals are for pansies! |
| 02:40.13 | Arrowmaster | no its not dylanm |
| 02:40.21 | dylanm | Arrowmaster: Do explain. |
| 02:40.37 | Arrowmaster | its authors that use Addon_Function() instead of Addon:Function() |
| 02:40.48 | Tifi | like blizzard? |
| 02:40.50 | dylanm | nymbia: It's true. Real men go to war against the variables of others. |
| 02:40.51 | Arrowmaster | thats global polution at the worst |
| 02:40.51 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:41.08 | nymbia | dylanm: exactly. |
| 02:41.09 | kneeki | O.o |
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| 02:41.28 | kneeki | Well then.... Maybe I should refine a few functions of mine -_- |
| 02:41.43 | Erica_ | I was really happy to get the new pet smiley face for my hunter pet but it keeps disappearing... and it's making me sad |
| 02:42.06 | Erica_ | on Pitbull that is |
| 02:42.21 | dylanm | I don't have a huge problem with Addon_Function versus Addon:Function as long as you keep it in-house. Is it that big of a deal? |
| 02:42.26 | Tifi | Arrowmaster, i actually prefer that over the MyAddon.needs.lots.of.tablelookups:crap() |
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| 02:43.01 | Arrowmaster | who the fuck does that? |
| 02:43.27 | vhaarr | who the fuck has this kind of discussion anyway, you keep stuff local unless you have to, and that is the end of the story |
| 02:43.41 | Arrowmaster | so true |
| 02:43.44 | dylanm | vhaarr: Right. That's all that matters to me. |
| 02:43.55 | Tifi | k |
| 02:44.08 | dylanm | Not the economy. Not border security. |
| 02:45.19 | nymbia | yeah.. faster and cleaner. what's not to like? |
| 02:47.34 | NivFreak | man |
| 02:47.43 | NivFreak | pitbull castbar is broken |
| 02:47.44 | NivFreak | :) |
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| 02:50.06 | Pkekyo| | bah, I fucking hate having to sterilize my knife :< |
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| 02:50.45 | Pkekyo| | smells like the inner circles of hell |
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| 02:53.05 | dylanm | Knife what? |
| 02:53.09 | dylanm | What are you doing? |
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| 03:12.15 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: accidentally stabbed myself :/ need to stop playing with knivest whilst bored |
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| 03:18.05 | WobWor1 | This is probably a good habit to get into =P |
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| 03:19.32 | kenlyric | why would RatingsBuster show a stat summary on some items but not others? |
| 03:19.55 | Megalon | kenlyric: warrior? |
| 03:20.00 | kenlyric | yes |
| 03:20.22 | Megalon | it has a config table, which classes get which armor types parsed |
| 03:20.34 | Megalon | and warriors are plate only in the file |
| 03:20.38 | Recluse | yep |
| 03:20.39 | kenlyric | ahhh |
| 03:20.47 | kenlyric | just noticed it was only weapons |
| 03:21.19 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, emo? :p |
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| 03:22.24 | Tifi | i have a stupid bug in my addon where a frame that is being dragged (frame:StartMoving()) is stuck to the mouse because frame:GetScript('OnDragStop') is never called... does this happen whenever a new frame is created? |
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| 03:23.04 | Tifi | what would be a good way to avoid this? |
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| 03:23.57 | WobWor1 | you could set up an onupdate to check if the mouse is pressed |
| 03:24.04 | WobWor1 | while the frame is moving only |
| 03:24.52 | WobWor1 | and if not, drop the frame |
| 03:25.01 | Tifi | good idea, thanks |
| 03:25.16 | WobWor1 | actually, there's probably a better way |
| 03:25.21 | WobWor1 | but it's been a while since I looked at it |
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| 03:31.35 | Xinhuan | [2/7 11:22:18] <Tifi> i have a stupid bug in my addon where a frame that is being dragged (frame:StartMoving()) is stuck to the mouse because frame:GetScript('OnDragStop') is never called... does this happen whenever a new frame is created? |
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| 03:31.48 | Xinhuan | that is because your OnDragStart frame isn't the same frame as "frame" |
| 03:32.18 | Xinhuan | you probably did self:getparent():start moving ? |
| 03:32.37 | Xinhuan | the ondragstop event only happens on the same frame that you drag-started |
| 03:32.57 | Pkekyo| | 04:19LukianPkekyo|, emo? <---- should be common knowledge by now that emos only scratch the surface of their skin with a plastic knife, no? :) |
| 03:33.33 | WobWor1 | McEmo? |
| 03:35.00 | Tifi | Xinhuan, yes it's a different frame |
| 03:35.26 | Xinhuan | you should have the ondragstop function on the frame you are dragging, not the frame you called StartMoving on |
| 03:35.41 | Tifi | lol |
| 03:36.06 | Tifi | thanks =) |
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| 03:40.02 | Tifi | Xinhuan, do i need to RegisterForDrag both frames? |
| 03:40.07 | Xinhuan | no |
| 03:40.34 | Xinhuan | what you want is a draggable frame B, who's parent frame A is undraggable |
| 03:40.50 | Xinhuan | when you drag frame B, the ondragstart of B calls "parent:startmoving" |
| 03:41.03 | Xinhuan | and the ondragstop of B also calls parent:stopmovingorsizing() |
| 03:41.16 | Xinhuan | B's dragging is automatic |
| 03:41.26 | Xinhuan | so you only need to registerfordrag on B |
| 03:41.29 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: will routes support multiple taboo regions? |
| 03:41.33 | Xinhuan | yes josh |
| 03:41.50 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: where can I read about the taboo branch? |
| 03:41.57 | vhaarr | I've no idea what it is or does |
| 03:41.59 | Xinhuan | in the Routes thread |
| 03:42.02 | vhaarr | ok |
| 03:42.04 | Xinhuan | 3rd page |
| 03:42.06 | Xinhuan | or 2nd page |
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| 03:49.27 | FrostByghte | I was wondering...in this screenshot: http://wow.uiscreens.com/fullsize.php?ssid=391 What is the addon in the lower right that has 'all targetting me' and 'players assisting' anyone know off hand? |
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| 03:55.59 | Tifi | Xinhuan, it still doesn't work, i want my raid frames to be draggable, so when raid1.ondragstart is called, i call raid1.header.startmoving. normally when i release the mouse, raid1.ondragstop gets called (not raid1.header.ondragstop). but sometimes, for example when someone leaves the raid while im dragging, the frame gets stuck to the mouse |
| 03:56.53 | Xinhuan | you need to call stopmoving directly on a raid-change |
| 03:57.00 | Xinhuan | because the secure templates change all your units/frames |
| 03:57.27 | Xinhuan | try that |
| 03:57.38 | Xinhuan | raid_roster_update call stopmving? |
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| 04:01.54 | Tifi | boy debugging this is fun, now i have to wait for a raid_roster_update in av -.- |
| 04:03.19 | Xinhuan | it happens quite a lot |
| 04:03.24 | Xinhuan | including when someone releases |
| 04:03.28 | Xinhuan | or rezzes |
| 04:03.36 | Tifi | hm ok |
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| 04:06.21 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60531 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix errors that occur if 2 nodes are dragged right on top of each other, causing them to have the same coord (since we index by coord). Optimized DrawTaboo() code slightly. |
| 04:07.24 | Tifi | still getting stuck -.- |
| 04:08.31 | Xinhuan | not much i can do, if your dragging frame's ondragstop isn't called |
| 04:09.20 | Tifi | i guess it happens whenever the header reorders the children |
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| 04:13.48 | mikma | so, which one is better. Omen, or Threatmeter? |
| 04:14.02 | Kreiger | Omen |
| 04:14.05 | mikma | Tuller: hi |
| 04:14.09 | ulic | emacs |
| 04:14.15 | mikma | Kreiger: why Omen? |
| 04:14.30 | Arrowmaster | whats threatmeter? |
| 04:14.34 | elusif | omen |
| 04:15.02 | Tifi | is threatmeter just a gui for threat-1.0? |
| 04:15.13 | mikma | the ktm stuff |
| 04:15.14 | elusif | it monitors threat |
| 04:15.19 | elusif | who'd a thunk it? :D |
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| 04:15.31 | Arrowmaster | omen vs ktm? omen |
| 04:15.35 | Tuller | mikma: http://i32.tinypic.com/rawx2g.jpg :P |
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| 04:15.52 | Tuller | now with darker backgrounds when configuring :) |
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| 04:17.04 | mikma | so what about if you leave all the fanboism off, which one is better? omen or ktm? |
| 04:17.21 | Arrowmaster | omen |
| 04:17.21 | mikma | Tuller: that looks something i could use to draw sexy shapes on my screen |
| 04:18.31 | Tifi | Xinhuan, i'm calling raid1.header.stopmovingorsizing in raid1.onhide now, which is called from blizz's code |
| 04:18.47 | mikma | Arrowmaster: fanboi |
| 04:18.49 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 04:18.56 | Arrowmaster | mikma: no im not |
| 04:19.14 | Tifi | i suppose dragged frames don't like to be hidden |
| 04:19.58 | Ellipsis | Tuller: does that mean arbitrarily sized bars that recycle action IDs properly? |
| 04:20.09 | mikma | Xinhuan: i have a idea for GatherHud. make it hidden if you go inside something (cave etc) |
| 04:20.23 | Tuller | Ellipsis: yes |
| 04:20.26 | mikma | Xinhuan: or atleast make it have different alpha for situations like that |
| 04:20.51 | Xinhuan | do you actually use gatherhud a lot? heh |
| 04:21.32 | Tifi | mikma, wait till 2.4 |
| 04:21.39 | mikma | Xinhuan: i do |
| 04:22.52 | Ellipsis | Tuller: I love you |
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| 04:26.29 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60532 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Optimize DrawTaboo() further by commenting out 2 chunks of code sections. Don't delete them though. |
| 04:28.04 | Fisker- | OMG FAP |
| 04:28.12 | Fisker- | inbuilt range detection in 2.4 |
| 04:28.25 | Xinhuan | range detection? |
| 04:28.33 | Fisker- | btw |
| 04:28.35 | Fisker- | BTW |
| 04:28.41 | Fisker- | "Players keep their GUID forever, and are unique even in cross-server battlegrounds." |
| 04:28.54 | Fisker- | So basically you can make a mod to detect scammers, ninjas and what not now? :D |
| 04:28.54 | Xinhuan | i hope i get a cool GUID |
| 04:29.01 | Ellipsis | range detection for raid only |
| 04:29.10 | Tifi | i want sth that contains 1337 |
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| 04:30.40 | Tifi | i wonder if you could write a ticket if your GUID contains something like H1TL3R |
| 04:31.02 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:31.06 | Arrowmaster | since its hex |
| 04:31.16 | Arrowmaster | not alphanumberic |
| 04:31.26 | Tifi | oh ok |
| 04:31.49 | WobWor1 | BEEFBEEFBEEFBEEF |
| 04:32.13 | WobWor1 | although DEADBEEF as a tauren would be ironic |
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| 04:35.02 | Ellipsis | I wonder if GUIDs on PTR will match the ones we'll have on live |
| 04:35.56 | Xinhuan | probably not |
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| 04:36.28 | Ellipsis | well assuming there's some server-side character ID that's not exposed now, wouldn't that be what they base their GUIDs on? |
| 04:36.57 | Diao | i assume |
| 04:37.04 | Diao | the GUID is based on some formula relating to the character's name and server |
| 04:37.09 | Diao | since it's permanent |
| 04:38.20 | Tifi | it could also be based on the server id and the char id in their dbs |
| 04:38.26 | Tifi | no formula needed |
| 04:38.36 | Diao | true |
| 04:38.54 | Diao | and in that case the GUID would stay the same even if someone changed character names |
| 04:39.24 | Tifi | good point |
| 04:39.51 | Xinhuan | lua> 0 == 0 |
| 04:39.51 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
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| 04:39.56 | Xinhuan | lua> 10%2 == 0 |
| 04:39.56 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
| 04:40.03 | Xinhuan | lua> 11%2 == 0 |
| 04:40.03 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: false |
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| 04:40.46 | Lukian | how do i cancel a buff in a macro? |
| 04:40.56 | Diao | cancelaura? |
| 04:40.58 | WobWor1 | cancelaura? |
| 04:41.03 | Ellipsis | the easy way to test is to create a character with X name on Y realm, check its GUID, delete the char and make a new one with the same name, and check if it matches |
| 04:41.15 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.17 | Lukian | yeah? |
| 04:41.27 | WobWor1 | Honestly, I would make the guid on the db primary key |
| 04:41.30 | Ellipsis | I'm guessing it won't (remember the issue with sending mail to deleted characters? it got lost because the character ID was different...) |
| 04:41.34 | WobWor1 | rather than any user generated source |
| 04:42.02 | WobWor1 | Since it's not particularly a gUid if it's not generated from a reliable source |
| 04:42.26 | WobWor1 | Why make the generation in any way user related? |
| 04:43.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah i bet it will be related to the db |
| 04:44.31 | Arrowmaster | the example combatlog.txt slouken posted had a really low guid for the character |
| 04:44.36 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60533 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Auras.lua: |
| 04:44.36 | CIA-10 | LibDogTag-2.0 - add tag [NumAura(arg)], returns the number of total charges of |
| 04:44.36 | CIA-10 | arg on the unit. So [NumAura(Inner Fire)] can return "20" for Priests, |
| 04:44.36 | CIA-10 | [NumAura(Renew)] can return 2 if you have two separate Renews on the unit. |
| 04:44.49 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60534 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Commit untested function Routes:IsNodeInTaboo(x, y, taboo) |
| 04:44.52 | ckknight | Kreiger: ping |
| 04:49.00 | Xinhuan | hmm time to write a test function |
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| 04:50.18 | Pkekyo| | yay, it's almost 6am :) |
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| 04:52.39 | Pkekyo| | only 30min until showertime |
| 04:52.58 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 04:53.37 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: any idea why cowtip won't 'run' loads of lines unless I open up the line editor and close it again? |
| 04:54.12 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 04:54.12 | Ellipsis | that's my bug, Pkekyo| |
| 04:54.16 | Ellipsis | are you all updated? |
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| 04:54.41 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 04:54.45 | kneeki | whoa, never seen this before... http://www.wowi.pastey.net/81862 - Line 4: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 04:54.47 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: unbug it plx? :p |
| 04:54.48 | kneeki | Any ideas? |
| 04:54.58 | Ellipsis | let me guess - you have a blank line more than halfway down in the line editor, and everything after that won't show? |
| 04:55.08 | Xinhuan | class is nil |
| 04:55.19 | Pkekyo| | kneeki: stop trying to index nil values! :p |
| 04:55.20 | kneeki | rofl, thanks Xinhuan! |
| 04:55.27 | kneeki | lol, I'm a bit tired -_- |
| 04:55.32 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: don't think so, no....not sure though |
| 04:55.43 | Xinhuan | and i'll advice you to use different loop counters |
| 04:55.44 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: well can you check exactly how many lines are missing? |
| 04:55.45 | Xinhuan | like i and j |
| 04:55.54 | kneeki | oh? |
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| 04:55.58 | kneeki | I'll do that, th anks :) |
| 04:55.59 | Ellipsis | and whether you have a blank line immediately before the missing lines? |
| 04:56.04 | syeren | So close to getting my hands on the dream spell Alert! |
| 04:56.05 | syeren | Kekekeke. |
| 04:56.09 | syeren | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8104/mplayerc200802062104270gc2.jpg |
| 04:56.10 | syeren | ! |
| 04:56.11 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: not right now, but I'm guessing 3-4 out of 7-8 |
| 04:56.26 | Ellipsis | is it lines at the end, or some stuff missing in the middle? |
| 04:56.39 | Pkekyo| | middle, if memory serves |
| 04:58.14 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 04:58.15 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: pastie your SVs |
| 04:58.36 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: I don't have them at hand atm |
| 04:58.47 | ckknight | so when you get em |
| 04:58.48 | Ellipsis | well when you get a chance |
| 04:58.58 | Paene | Winter Carnival w00t |
| 04:59.00 | Pkekyo| | I'll check on the blank lines (that causes a bug?) when the servers are back up this afternoon |
| 04:59.11 | [4K^wallen] | What's that adoon reporting everything in the chat? |
| 04:59.40 | Pkekyo| | [4K^wallen]: spam-o-matic 4000? |
| 05:00.07 | Pkekyo| | - my way of saying that your question is somewhat vague... |
| 05:00.42 | [4K^wallen] | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8104/mplayerc200802062104270gc2.jpg I am referring to this screenshot; in the space of the chatlog, there's an addon that seems to report every skill used by the player |
| 05:01.18 | Pkekyo| | the one in the middle of the screen? |
| 05:01.30 | [4K^wallen] | No, bottom-left corner |
| 05:02.38 | Pkekyo| | that looks like just either A) Clever or B) Really, really retarded use of default chat filtering....right click the tab of your chat window, and check under Filter (I think) ---> Combat Messages, see what you can dig up |
| 05:03.07 | Pkekyo| | can't see how that would be a standalone addon...filtering your chat window is your best bet imo |
| 05:03.30 | Pkekyo| | - for future referance, he also uses the chat addon Prat |
| 05:03.49 | Pkekyo| | (provides the timestamps, amongst other things) |
| 05:04.46 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: basicly, remove all blank lines, if any - then it should work properly? |
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| 05:06.13 | ckknight | ...no |
| 05:06.24 | Pkekyo| | but :< |
| 05:06.33 | Pkekyo| | seemed like a fun thing to do at the time :p |
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| 05:07.09 | Pkekyo| | "Look at that, honey, that's his ribcage sticking out of the glove compartment! Thank you, officer, that will be all!" |
| 05:08.24 | Paene | What exactly is the CallBackHandler library for? |
| 05:08.38 | Pkekyo| | for handling callbacks? |
| 05:08.45 | Paene | lol |
| 05:08.47 | Paene | thanks |
| 05:08.51 | Pkekyo| | captain obvious is obvious : |
| 05:08.52 | Paene | real helpful :-p |
| 05:08.52 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 05:09.10 | Megalon | [4K^wallen]: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111794463&postId=21112549122&sid=3#0 ? |
| 05:09.27 | Pkekyo| | Paene: agreed :) |
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| 05:09.51 | Paene | It looks like it's the custom event part of AceEvent-2.0 |
| 05:11.19 | Pkekyo| | callbackhandlerlib? |
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| 05:16.00 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: how do you remove lines that aren't there to begin with? |
| 05:17.02 | Pkekyo| | well, move everything up a line then :p |
| 05:17.16 | Ellipsis | that might fix your problem |
| 05:17.23 | Pkekyo| | - remove the emptyness factor of zeh lines |
| 05:17.26 | CIA-10 | 03ananhaid * r60535 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: |
| 05:17.26 | CIA-10 | Parrot: |
| 05:17.26 | CIA-10 | - zhCN update. |
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| 05:17.48 | Pkekyo| | I'll see if there are any blank lines and get back to you about 3-4pm |
| 05:18.21 | Ellipsis | ...which is in how many hours? |
| 05:18.34 | Pkekyo| | here it's 6.16am now :p |
| 05:18.43 | Ellipsis | all right then |
| 05:18.53 | Pkekyo| | just about ten hours then |
| 05:18.54 | Ellipsis | in all likelihood we'll both be asleep when you do then |
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| 05:19.04 | wow_lya | hi |
| 05:19.27 | Pkekyo| | ~fail Ellipsis |
| 05:19.37 | purl | Ellipsis: Fail. |
| 05:19.37 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 05:19.37 | Ellipsis | what? |
| 05:19.37 | Parnic | anybody around that knows AceOO very well? |
| 05:19.39 | Ellipsis | we're not allowed to sleep now? |
| 05:19.43 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 05:19.49 | Ellipsis | or are we supposed to take turns so that one of us is always around to help you nubs :P |
| 05:19.58 | Pkekyo| | that should've been perfectly clear from the start tbh |
| 05:20.22 | Pkekyo| | you can't just start sleeping at the same time for no good reason and totally screw the rest of us over :p |
| 05:20.25 | wow_lya | I'm looking for a addon, can I ask my question here, or is this a programming-only chan ? |
| 05:20.33 | Pkekyo| | ~asktoask |
| 05:20.34 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 05:21.11 | Tifi | thats a nice macro |
| 05:21.23 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 05:21.37 | Pkekyo| | purl ftw, mesays |
| 05:22.00 | Tifi | and Parnic it applies to you as well =) |
| 05:22.16 | wow_lya | purl : on some programming chan, that's not like that :) That's the first time I come here, and I don't see any rules, so I ask :) |
| 05:22.42 | Pkekyo| | Tifi: well, technically, he did ask a question, and not wether or not he could ask a question :p |
| 05:22.43 | WobWor1 | purl is a bot, btw |
| 05:22.48 | Pkekyo| | wow_lya: purl is a bot :) |
| 05:22.50 | wow_lya | ho -_- |
| 05:22.53 | ckknight | WobWor1: don't treat her like tha |
| 05:22.54 | Parnic | i wasn't asking to ask, i need to discuss AceOO with someone and didn't wanna bore everybody in public :) |
| 05:22.54 | ckknight | that* |
| 05:22.58 | ckknight | she has feelings |
| 05:23.00 | WobWor1 | ~botsnack |
| 05:23.00 | purl | WobWor1: :) |
| 05:23.02 | ckknight | just as much as you or I |
| 05:23.11 | ckknight | granted... |
| 05:23.12 | WobWor1 | Do your feelings worry you, ckknight? |
| 05:23.13 | ckknight | purl sucks |
| 05:23.13 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
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| 05:23.21 | Ellipsis | purl, you suck |
| 05:23.22 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 05:23.23 | Pkekyo| | Parnic: it's fucking six am, couldn't be more bored anyways :p |
| 05:23.25 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 05:23.33 | Fisker- | you suck Pkekyo| |
| 05:23.35 | ckknight | purl, lapdance |
| 05:23.36 | purl | ACTION gives ckknight a lapdance |
| 05:23.48 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: so? |
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| 05:24.16 | Parnic | i think i figured it out anyway. trying to get "self" to work properly in a setscript'd function inside an instance of an AceOO class :P |
| 05:24.40 | Pkekyo| | well...err....congrats then... |
| 05:25.00 | wow_lya | I am looking for an addon who can full someone when he ask for a buff. Does a such addon exist ? |
| 05:25.18 | Pkekyo| | 'can full someone'? |
| 05:25.28 | wow_lya | oups |
| 05:25.33 | wow_lya | "can buff" |
| 05:25.39 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 05:25.54 | wow_lya | ( sorry,... I am french and it's 6.25 here ) |
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| 05:27.17 | Daemona | sounds like whisper cast? does that still exist? |
| 05:27.28 | Daemona | alternatively XRS? |
| 05:27.52 | wow_lya | XRS doesn't make this |
| 05:27.54 | Pkekyo| | wow_lya: well, would have to grab all incoming chat messages, check for name of buff ie "if [buffname] is in chatmessage, then cast buff on chatmessage sender"-ish function...if memory serves, I don't think the game will let you automate such decisions anymore |
| 05:28.12 | Arrowmaster | it wont |
| 05:28.19 | Pkekyo| | either way, I'm off...gotta hit the bloody showers before all the warm water's gone...laters |
| 05:28.24 | Arrowmaster | but you can add to a queue of spells to cast while out of combat |
| 05:28.26 | WobWork | You might be able to setup a button queue |
| 05:28.30 | Daemona | you will ALWAYS have to press a button |
| 05:28.31 | WobWork | yeah |
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| 05:28.58 | wow_lya | hmm |
| 05:30.39 | wow_lya | ok, so doest an addon exist which makes : when a /w arrive, it stackes all demandes and display a fucking big button on the screen on paladin ( just to name them :D ). When out of combat, if the paladin click on the box, all asking buff are casted ? |
| 05:31.41 | Daemona | or you could use pallypower? |
| 05:32.02 | wow_lya | I am not paladin :) |
| 05:32.10 | Tifi | PallyPower needs a module to automate the 'whine at paladins' stuff |
| 05:32.25 | wow_lya | btw, even if they have pallypower, they can buff correctly |
| 05:32.32 | Daemona | then use XRS and tell your stupid group mates to click of buffs with little duration left |
| 05:33.05 | Daemona | i don't see anything that validates a need for a new addon in your request. |
| 05:33.07 | Tifi | it's not just 'please buff x', its 'i want y instead of x, so whoever buffed me x please buff y' |
| 05:33.42 | Tifi | Daemona, do you raid? |
| 05:34.03 | FtH|Daemona | uhm ... naah not that hardcore. |
| 05:34.34 | wow_lya | ok, for exemple : |
| 05:35.14 | wow_lya | ( looking for english name :p ) |
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| 05:35.33 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60536 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix logic in GetOrCreateTabooNode(), it clearly was creating a new frame every call instead of checking for an existing one and returning it. Add test functions to test IsNodeInTaboo() |
| 05:35.41 | Tifi | it's just that in my guild it's the exception that everyone is happy with their pala buffs before a boss try |
| 05:36.16 | FtH|Daemona | Tifi, if i should guess, i wuold say i raid more than 95% in the channel here ;) |
| 05:36.33 | wow_lya | and sometime, you have some class which are healer and dps :/ |
| 05:36.40 | FtH|Daemona | and yes, i know those whiney warriors, enhancement shamans etc... |
| 05:37.02 | Tifi | ...spriests |
| 05:37.17 | wow_lya | yes |
| 05:37.22 | FtH|Daemona | i agree pallypower could use some "exceptions module" where you can set a name to get a different pala blessing |
| 05:37.38 | wow_lya | yop |
| 05:37.43 | FtH|Daemona | but for any other buff xrs works perfectly and for all non-special cases pally power works perfectly |
| 05:37.47 | wow_lya | but that's not the only problem |
| 05:38.18 | FtH|Daemona | perhaps your paladins simply need to get their crap together and not just tag along and mindlessly spam FoL on the tanks and click their PP button to rebuff |
| 05:38.26 | wow_lya | for exemple, yesterday, on Hyjal, shamans healers don't need the same bless on trashs and boss |
| 05:38.39 | FtH|Daemona | wow_lya -> pallypower |
| 05:38.43 | wow_lya | ( we have only 2 paladins, and we fight to have the good bless ) |
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| 05:39.15 | FtH|Daemona | anyone with pallypower installed and assist or lead in a raid can set what to buff |
| 05:39.28 | wow_lya | Daemona : ok, and how to kick the asshole paladin who we wait for 5min to have BoK for exemple ? |
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| 05:39.50 | FtH|Daemona | you kick him from the raid if he is too stupid to klick his pally power button? |
| 05:40.03 | Xinhuan | this sounds more like a pally class coordination issue, than an addon issue. |
| 05:40.03 | wow_lya | Daemona : that's a solution :) |
| 05:40.15 | FtH|Daemona | exactly Xinhuan |
| 05:40.35 | wow_lya | we whine for bless |
| 05:40.41 | wow_lya | paladin whine because we whine |
| 05:40.48 | wow_lya | what the solution ? kick them, why not |
| 05:40.51 | Xinhuan | the only blessing i care about is... Salvation |
| 05:40.55 | Xinhuan | i couldn't care less about the rest |
| 05:41.09 | wow_lya | Salvation = -30% aggro ? |
| 05:41.10 | FtH|Daemona | solution: paladins HAVE to install pallypower... not that it eases their buffing anyway ... but your raid leader installs it too |
| 05:41.12 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 05:41.17 | FtH|Daemona | you call out rebuffs before bosses don't you? |
| 05:41.22 | Tifi | wow_lya, yes |
| 05:41.46 | wow_lya | Daemona : 2 paladins -> different buff for trashes and bosses |
| 05:41.46 | FtH|Daemona | so the raid leader just sets the blessings for the boss 1-2 trash waves beforehand |
| 05:42.03 | Arrowmaster | all of our paladins have pallypower and even though its not officially required it is |
| 05:42.07 | FtH|Daemona | when you call out rebuffs before bosses -> they just mindlessly klick their pallypower buttons and you got what you want |
| 05:42.32 | wow_lya | ok |
| 05:42.33 | FtH|Daemona | if paladin doesnt want to do that... sorry you just grabbed into the shit heap when ginviting him... |
| 05:42.48 | wow_lya | Daemona : yep |
| 05:43.14 | FtH|Daemona | the only problem you still have is those hybrid bufffs (warrior, priests... you get the point) |
| 05:43.27 | FtH|Daemona | and well that problem can only a offiver solve talking in private with the paladin |
| 05:43.29 | wow_lya | yep |
| 05:43.36 | Arrowmaster | our paladins fight over who has to do the short blessings on dps warriors and such |
| 05:43.42 | wow_lya | Daemona : it's not :D |
| 05:43.55 | Arrowmaster | FtH|Daemona: pallypower can be set to give short buffs to certan people |
| 05:44.04 | FtH|Daemona | w00t |
| 05:44.11 | wow_lya | I ask myself if paladin knows BoP too... |
| 05:44.14 | FtH|Daemona | even if you have a long buff set? |
| 05:44.19 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:44.35 | FtH|Daemona | ... ok i should dig deeper into pallypower sometime ;) |
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| 05:44.41 | Diao | Fin ping |
| 05:44.46 | wow_lya | I will too |
| 05:44.56 | Tifi | me too, sounds very good |
| 05:44.59 | FtH|Daemona | i never have to go further than to make sure one of our paladins has assist so they can organize emselves |
| 05:45.01 | wow_lya | Arrowmaster: you are sure of this information ? |
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| 05:45.09 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:45.15 | wow_lya | ok, I will check this |
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| 05:45.33 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp9.jpg - someone managed to summon like 50 frogs |
| 05:46.01 | Tifi | and i didn't know i can abuse my assist for pallypower even though i'm not a pala |
| 05:46.01 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 05:46.01 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: from server lag |
| 05:46.19 | Xinhuan | server's definitely not lagging |
| 05:46.25 | FtH|Daemona | wtf |
| 05:46.27 | Xinhuan | at least, it isn't for me |
| 05:46.42 | Arrowmaster | well its from lag somehow i think |
| 05:47.37 | Xinhuan | well |
| 05:47.39 | Xinhuan | its hella funny cos |
| 05:47.41 | Xinhuan | when he moves |
| 05:47.45 | Xinhuan | the 50 frogs follow him |
| 05:47.58 | Xinhuan | like pip-piper or something |
| 05:48.16 | Arrowmaster | and their mojos so its even better |
| 05:48.29 | Tifi | omg i totally need an army of mechanic squirrels |
| 05:48.39 | Tifi | how did he do that? |
| 05:48.45 | Xinhuan | no clue |
| 05:48.50 | Xinhuan | opposite faction for the lose |
| 05:49.01 | Arrowmaster | too bad an army of eggberts is impossible i think (fucking 10 second cooldown on a minipet wtf!) |
| 05:50.28 | FtH|Daemona | i doubt lag is the solution Xinhuan |
| 05:50.40 | FtH|Daemona | i just spam clicked my mojo and i get item not ready messages |
| 05:50.48 | FtH|Daemona | so its no insta without gc |
| 05:51.09 | Arrowmaster | i know somebody that got an army of black cats a very very long time ago from server lag |
| 05:51.12 | Xinhuan | he just sat down beside me |
| 05:51.17 | Xinhuan | and he has a ring of mojos |
| 05:51.20 | Xinhuan | aronud him that move in sync |
| 05:51.26 | Xinhuan | in a 2 yards radius |
| 05:51.39 | FtH|Daemona | pvp or pve server? ;) |
| 05:51.57 | Xinhuan | pvp |
| 05:51.59 | Arrowmaster | somebody had the same with jublings (i think) on my server the other day |
| 05:53.29 | WobWork | oh damn |
| 05:53.36 | WobWork | I was going to stealth into BRD for the ale |
| 05:53.39 | WobWork | oh well, completely forgot |
| 05:53.51 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
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| 05:56.33 | Diao | hmm |
| 05:56.41 | Diao | does babble-2.2-compat remove the need for babble-2.2 |
| 05:56.56 | CIA-10 | 03peragor * r60537 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 05:56.56 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 05:56.56 | CIA-10 | - Added missing layouts. |
| 05:56.57 | CIA-10 | - Another fix to incombat refreshes |
| 05:57.16 | Diao | anyone? |
| 05:58.11 | Arrowmaster | whats babble-2.2-compat? |
| 05:58.35 | Diao | a compat layer for b2.2 on libbabble-3.0 |
| 05:59.07 | Arrowmaster | considering almost all the dependancies dont exist |
| 05:59.09 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 06:00.06 | Diao | ah |
| 06:00.14 | Pkekyo| | g'morning alll |
| 06:00.22 | Tifi | hey did you guys know you can load the same file from two addons? like A.toc has a line a.lua, and B.toc has a line ..\A\a.lua |
| 06:00.32 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 06:02.54 | Tifi | does anyone actually use this? the problem with it is that you have to spread out your code in different files, which makes code browsing harder |
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| 06:03.25 | Xinhuan | wow default UI TOC files does it |
| 06:03.30 | Xinhuan | superinspect does it |
| 06:03.31 | Shirik | Uh |
| 06:03.42 | Shirik | Putting your code in different files makes code browsing easier imho |
| 06:03.47 | Xinhuan | and, Titan Panel does it |
| 06:03.54 | Shirik | I do NOT want to read through a 20k line file |
| 06:04.00 | Shirik | to find the two lines I need to change |
| 06:04.11 | Xinhuan | titan panel inbuilt plugins have their own toc file, but point to the actual lua that reside in the main titab folder |
| 06:04.14 | Xinhuan | titan* |
| 06:04.38 | Tifi | and i dont want to open 20 files to find the function i was looking for =) |
| 06:04.58 | Xinhuan | well if the files are structured/named properly, you shouldn't have to open 20 files |
| 06:05.02 | Xinhuan | to find the file you need |
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| 06:06.44 | kebinusan | control F you shouldnt have to read through 20k lines either |
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| 06:09.23 | Tifi | [07:04] <Xinhuan> wow default UI TOC files does it |
| 06:09.30 | Tifi | where? |
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| 06:12.30 | Xinhuan | tamagotchi: ('-' )( '-')( ._.)(._. )('-' )( '-')( ._.)(._. )('-' )( '-')( ._.)(._. )('-' )( '-')( ._.)(._. )( '-')(^_^) |
| 06:13.12 | NightHawkTheSane | wee. first night in hyjal! and we one shot winterchill |
| 06:13.14 | Xinhuan | tifi, some of their xml files contain <include> to load other xml files |
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| 06:13.26 | Xinhuan | so some of them get loaded multiple times |
| 06:13.36 | Tifi | ah ok |
| 06:13.37 | Xinhuan | not that it matters, but all you should know is that it works |
| 06:13.55 | Xinhuan | and you cannot use ..\..\blah to reference any file outside of the Interface\ folder |
| 06:14.38 | Tifi | hehe didn't even try that out because i didnt think it would work |
| 06:15.35 | Diao | does sharedmedia-2 replace sharedmedia :O |
| 06:16.37 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:16.43 | Xinhuan | but you still need lsm1 |
| 06:16.50 | Xinhuan | unless none of your addons use lsm1 |
| 06:16.55 | Diao | oh |
| 06:16.57 | Shirik | purl, tamagotchi is <reply> ('-' ) ( '-') ( ._.) (._. ) ('-' ) ( '-') ( ._.) (._. ) ('-' ) ( '-') ( ._.) (._. ) ('-' ) ( '-') ( ._.) (._. ) ( '-') (^_^) |
| 06:16.58 | purl | ...but tamagotchi is already something else... |
| 06:17.00 | Diao | then what's the point o_o |
| 06:17.03 | Shirik | ~tamagotchi |
| 06:17.04 | purl | i heard tamagotchi is stupid,but if you really want it, you can find one for kde on http://ktamaga.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 06:17.08 | Shirik | rofl |
| 06:17.08 | Xinhuan | also lsm3 is in the branches |
| 06:17.16 | Diao | ah |
| 06:17.31 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: ping |
| 06:18.09 | Xinhuan | haha Shirik |
| 06:18.16 | Arrowmaster | wtf a lsm3 now? |
| 06:18.24 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 06:18.34 | Xinhuan | yes, apparently lsm2 wasn't made by the author of lsm1, so the author rewrote it as lsm3 |
| 06:18.49 | Xinhuan | i.e same problem as parserlib |
| 06:18.55 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 06:19.15 | Arrowmaster | what do you mean same problem as parserlib, theres no parserlib 5 |
| 06:19.17 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 06:19.30 | Xinhuan | 1.1 was made, and 3.0 was made as a response |
| 06:19.50 | Diao | lol |
| 06:19.53 | Arrowmaster | 1.1 was made by original author |
| 06:20.00 | Arrowmaster | 3.0 and 4.0 were made by ckk |
| 06:20.03 | Xinhuan | or maybe its the other way around |
| 06:20.26 | Xinhuan | by the root problem is still there - conflicting authors |
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| 06:22.28 | Arrowmaster | 2.0 has same author in toc as 3.0.... |
| 06:22.36 | Diao | "many people"? |
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| 06:22.55 | Xinhuan | i don't think the author field was changed |
| 06:23.07 | Xinhuan | ask nevcairiel about it |
| 06:23.12 | Xinhuan | think he knows more |
| 06:23.43 | Arrowmaster | looking at fish changelog, yup wasnt same author |
| 06:24.20 | Xinhuan | i don't know who wrote 1.0 either actually |
| 06:24.24 | Xinhuan | or 2.0 for the matter |
| 06:24.25 | Arrowmaster | and I see the major problem thats lacking in 2.0 now |
| 06:24.32 | Arrowmaster | looks like ckk did 2.0 |
| 06:24.45 | Xinhuan | what's lacking in 2.0? |
| 06:24.46 | Yssaril | whats the problem with 2.0? |
| 06:24.48 | Arrowmaster | theres no callback in 2.0 when SetGlobal is used |
| 06:24.56 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 06:25.07 | Arrowmaster | to inform all mods using it that they need to do a Fetch again |
| 06:25.10 | Xinhuan | i believe the problem with 2.0, is that it is simply the same as 1.0, but converted from AceLibrary --> Libstub |
| 06:25.18 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 06:25.25 | Xinhuan | 3.0 is supposed to be a clean rewrite |
| 06:25.29 | Arrowmaster | since it doesnt have an aceevent/callbackhandler |
| 06:25.45 | Arrowmaster | its a shitty rewrite/conversion |
| 06:26.24 | Aeyan | That why some authors have stuck to SML? |
| 06:26.33 | Aeyan | Though, it could just be "if it ain't broke" |
| 06:27.00 | Xinhuan | most converted, probably because a larger version number usually means "better with more features" |
| 06:27.19 | Arrowmaster | i dont think anybodys stuck with SML-2.0, its just those addons havent been updated at all |
| 06:27.43 | Pkekyo| | wtf, vista SP1 is running the longhorn core?! |
| 06:27.50 | Aeyan | I updated a few of mine myself, but soley because I didn't want two libraries handling the exact same thing |
| 06:27.58 | Aeyan | Pkekyo|: So it seems |
| 06:28.07 | Fisker- | what's so wtf about it? |
| 06:28.25 | Fisker- | "Longhorn", the former working name of the Microsoft Windows Vista operating system |
| 06:28.26 | Yssaril | Aeyan: SML2 is backwards compatible me thinks so you could just delete the old SML lib |
| 06:28.46 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: yeah, but they scrapped it in favour of building vista on the win NT core.... |
| 06:28.58 | Fisker- | ... |
| 06:29.02 | Fisker- | ITS A CODENAME |
| 06:29.02 | Pkekyo| | didn't expect them to still be working on it tbh |
| 06:29.09 | Arrowmaster | LSM2 is not backwards compatible |
| 06:29.14 | Aeyan | SharedMedia-2.0 is, but LibSharedMedia-2.0 isn't |
| 06:29.22 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: yes, it's a codename...what's your point? |
| 06:29.27 | Yssaril | ahh nm :P |
| 06:29.30 | Arrowmaster | it just fires events for the old SML |
| 06:29.46 | Fisker- | That it's the same thing as the "win nt core" |
| 06:29.52 | Pkekyo| | no it's not |
| 06:29.54 | Fisker- | yes it is |
| 06:30.08 | Arrowmaster | vista sp1 is running the windows 2008 kernal now |
| 06:30.16 | Pkekyo| | windows vista was relased as a rebuild of the core that xp was made up from |
| 06:30.21 | Fisker- | LOLOL |
| 06:30.25 | Aeyan | Is the directx performance any better? |
| 06:30.33 | Pkekyo| | in SP1, they've altered it to the original longhorn core (which you find in server 2008) |
| 06:30.52 | Yssaril | Longhorn was the codname for the entire vista development not a specific part of it i though |
| 06:31.11 | Fisker- | it is Yssaril |
| 06:31.14 | Fisker- | Pkekyo| is just being a n00b |
| 06:31.15 | Arrowmaster | i think longhorn refers to both vista and 2008 somehow |
| 06:31.21 | Fisker- | obviously |
| 06:31.29 | Fisker- | it's the same kernel |
| 06:31.47 | Fisker- | The reason why the word Longhorn is mentioned in your presumably beta or RTM build is because it's not a final build |
| 06:31.47 | Pkekyo| | ok, I'll spell it out for you: Vista vanilla version: XP core - Vista SP1: The Longhorn core that was originally intended for vista, but wasn't implemented upon launch |
| 06:31.51 | Fisker- | No. |
| 06:31.53 | Arrowmaster | what was the codename for 2003? |
| 06:31.59 | Fisker- | Vista vanlilla version: Windows 6.0 |
| 06:32.04 | Fisker- | Vista SP1: Windows 6.0 |
| 06:32.09 | Fisker- | Windows Server 2008: Windows 6.0 |
| 06:32.19 | Fisker- | The server might be 6.1 though |
| 06:32.35 | Pkekyo| | ... |
| 06:32.45 | Fisker- | They has a thing called the Windows Kernel |
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| 06:33.11 | Arrowmaster | my dad bought a shitty hp with xp home on it and some things still refered to it as whistler |
| 06:33.35 | Arrowmaster | like the os selection screen |
| 06:33.40 | Xinhuan | is IsIndoors() a blizzard function now? |
| 06:33.45 | Arrowmaster | think so |
| 06:33.55 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: do you know of any way to open AceConfig to a specific portion of its tree or to a specific tab? |
| 06:33.59 | Arrowmaster | theres some weird ones |
| 06:34.01 | Tinyboom | hmm, wonder what number of vista's die from that core change (and especially pirated ones:p) |
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| 06:34.05 | Xinhuan | Yssaril, not that i know of, yet |
| 06:34.06 | Xinhuan | as Nargiddley |
| 06:34.13 | Fisker- | Starting with Windows Kernel 3.1 and ending with Windows Kernel 6.0 (7.0 is the next Windows (Also incorrectly refered to as MinWin) Windows Kernel 5.0 is XP, 5.1 is 2003. 6.0 is Vista and 2008 server |
| 06:34.20 | Yssaril | tried to he hast responded yet :P |
| 06:34.33 | Yssaril | *hasn't |
| 06:34.44 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: no, 6.1 |
| 06:34.56 | Pkekyo| | 2008 server and Vista SP1 are 6.1 |
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| 06:35.16 | Fisker- | Not according to Wikipedia |
| 06:35.22 | Fisker- | but that's irrelevant anyways |
| 06:35.47 | Pkekyo| | because wikipedia is always correct in all matters? :) |
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| 06:35.58 | Fisker- | It is irrelevant |
| 06:36.04 | Fisker- | So i don't care if they are correct or not |
| 06:36.45 | Pkekyo| | how'd you figure it's irrelevant? because it's not according to your own claims? |
| 06:36.54 | Fisker- | It has nothing to do with the discussion |
| 06:37.05 | MentalPower | whats the ace dev channel? |
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| 06:37.20 | Arrowmaster | theres an ace dev channel? |
| 06:37.24 | Pkekyo| | MentalPower: this would be it, I guess |
| 06:38.19 | Xinhuan | ok IsIndoors() return value doesn't match the indoor/outdoor minimap status heh |
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| 06:38.43 | Xinhuan | like when you're in shattrath, you're "inside" when you're at a'dal |
| 06:38.57 | Xinhuan | but IsIndoors() still returns nil |
| 06:39.14 | Aeyan | Well, you can fly in there |
| 06:39.19 | Aeyan | So it's not 'inside' |
| 06:39.24 | Arrowmaster | then its screwy since IsOutdoors() doesnt always return true when you can mount |
| 06:40.15 | Xinhuan | you need something MentalPower? |
| 06:40.30 | MentalPower | not really, just setting up my new chatzilla |
| 06:40.39 | MentalPower | running on XULRunner :) |
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| 06:43.58 | Fisker- | also btw Pkekyo| |
| 06:44.19 | Fisker- | If Windows Vista were running the "XP core" it would've been easily possible to make DX10 for XP |
| 06:45.55 | Pkekyo| | it's just another rebuilt NT kernel, not the revolutionary new one they were praising into the heavens for a while whilst promoting vista... |
| 06:46.26 | Arrowmaster | only reason xp doesnt have dx10 is to promote vista sales |
| 06:46.33 | Fisker- | Not really |
| 06:46.39 | Pkekyo| | wouldn't surprise me for a second, Arrowmaster |
| 06:46.45 | Fisker- | They would have to update the kernel Arrowmaster |
| 06:46.57 | Fisker- | Would require a significant rewrite as well |
| 06:47.09 | Fisker- | But i guess it's a bit of both |
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| 06:47.21 | Fisker- | Pkekyo| "rebuilt"? It's an evolution of the NT Kernel yes |
| 06:48.06 | Fisker- | But again it's just a version |
| 06:48.30 | Fisker- | I don't know if they've started from the ground up or started from the XP kernel |
| 06:48.43 | Pkekyo| | they started using the XP kernel |
| 06:48.59 | Fisker- | Perhaps |
| 06:49.02 | Fisker- | Not at release anywho |
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| 06:49.22 | Pkekyo| | they were bragging about going to write a new kernel from the ground up for a while, but couldn't do it, and scrapped the idea in favour of building it from the XP kernel... |
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| 06:50.29 | Pkekyo| | that's the only reason Vista was released when it was, they had the XP kernel as a basic foundation for the 'new' kernel, and saved alot of time, in comparison to if they'd have to write a new kernel from scratch |
| 06:50.52 | Fisker- | I don't know what you're huffing, but please share |
| 06:51.02 | Pkekyo| | naught |
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| 06:51.33 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: you doubt that MS are cutting every bloody corner they can for profit? |
| 06:51.37 | Fisker- | Whether or not they started from the ground up doesn't nessecarily change their versioning scheme |
| 06:51.45 | Fisker- | Pkekyo| that's not what the discussion was about |
| 06:51.54 | Shirik | Uh |
| 06:52.14 | Shirik | Do you have documentation on the fact that Vista uses XP's kernel |
| 06:52.23 | Shirik | I find it rather difficult to believe considering the fundamental kernel differences |
| 06:52.24 | Fisker- | You said that Vista (Original) was running the XP Kernel (Which it isn't) and that (SP1 is running the longhorn core, which doesn't make sense as Longhorn is just the developement name for Windows Vista) |
| 06:52.25 | MySpoons2Big | Both were built off the NT kernel |
| 06:52.33 | MySpoons2Big | The next major kernel upgrade will be Windows 7 |
| 06:52.41 | MySpoons2Big | Until then it's just a pile on top of NT |
| 06:52.59 | MySpoons2Big | By "upgrade" i mean "rewrite" |
| 06:53.32 | Fisker- | well you don't if you insist that it's just "a pile on top of NT" |
| 06:53.48 | Fisker- | That would be surprisingly inefficient and error prone if that were the case |
| 06:54.03 | MySpoons2Big | How about an "intelligently stacked pile" on top of NT? |
| 06:54.11 | MySpoons2Big | :) |
| 06:54.28 | Pkekyo| | I'm off, back in eight hours |
| 06:54.39 | Shirik | So, aside from all the other differences in the kernel |
| 06:54.47 | Shirik | I'm to believe that they're using NT's kernel in Vista? |
| 06:54.53 | Shirik | unchanged? |
| 06:55.10 | ckknight_ | Arrowmaster: I didn't do 2.0, 2.0 was never completed out of apathy, was started by Rophy but never finished |
| 06:55.17 | Pkekyo| | I'd say a modified version of the nt kernel |
| 06:55.22 | MySpoons2Big | No, not necessarily unchanged, but it was a starting point. |
| 06:55.24 | Shirik | That would be incredibly inefficient, and when you're talking about a kernel, the #1 thing you're thinking of is efficiency |
| 06:55.26 | Arrowmaster | i didnt say you made 2.0 |
| 06:55.37 | Shirik | Okay, what's wrong with that? |
| 06:55.38 | Arrowmaster | i know it was never finished |
| 06:55.52 | Shirik | When's the last time a huge project was truly started from scratch |
| 06:56.00 | Shirik | The linux kernel would be a good comparison |
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| 06:56.48 | MySpoons2Big | I didn't say it was a bad thing. The NT kernel has been a good model to go off of. |
| 06:57.03 | Shirik | You certainly implied it, along with the others |
| 06:57.50 | Recluse | hrm, is there a wiki page on waterfall? |
| 06:57.51 | MySpoons2Big | But you're right, it is inefficient because of its design. They started to change that with Windows Server 2008, by making features more modular. They'll really change it with Windows 7's "MinWin" |
| 06:58.13 | Recluse | bah, i'm blind, nm |
| 06:58.28 | Shirik | I disagree with a kernel being "more modular" improving it |
| 06:58.30 | Fisker- | ITS NOT MINWIN DAMNIT |
| 06:58.32 | Shirik | but I am an embedded system guy |
| 06:58.41 | MySpoons2Big | brb, Guitar Hero. Keep typing, I'll be back in a sec. |
| 06:58.49 | Fisker- | "Oh hai i just saw a video" |
| 06:58.51 | Shirik | My kernel doesn't even contain a process manager, the process manager is an application |
| 06:59.23 | Fisker- | MinWin is just the name of a stripped down kernel that'll never see a day of light |
| 06:59.33 | CIA-10 | 03parnic * r60538 10IceHUD/ (IceBarElement.lua modules/CastBar.lua modules/TargetCast.lua): |
| 06:59.33 | CIA-10 | IceHUD: |
| 06:59.33 | CIA-10 | - added an option to animate the lost/gained amounts on each individual bar with a tweak-able speed |
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| 06:59.51 | Shirik | just because I'm running a microkernel doesn't mean it's "stripped down" by any means |
| 07:00.04 | Shirik | all the capabilities are there, they're just better protected |
| 07:00.15 | Shirik | How many different ways are there to get a blue screen on Windows :P |
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| 07:00.32 | Fisker- | The correct term would also be a stripped down version of windows :P |
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| 07:06.32 | MySpoons2Big | Ah well, I guess that's what I get for jumping into the middle of a conversation. As you were. :-P |
| 07:10.21 | Fisker- | SAME TEAM |
| 07:10.32 | Shirik|zZz | So what |
| 07:10.34 | Shirik|zZz | what if I wanted to lose? |
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| 07:10.49 | Fisker- | :< |
| 07:10.52 | Shirik|zZz | :P |
| 07:11.09 | Shirik|zZz | Anyway |
| 07:11.17 | Shirik|zZz | if you want to see the makings of a great kernel |
| 07:11.51 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 07:11.53 | Shirik|zZz | This guide details the Neutrino kernel, one of the best ones I've seen yet: http://www.qnx.com/download/feature.html?programid=16854 |
| 07:12.17 | Shirik|zZz | (warning: neither an easy nor short read) |
| 07:13.00 | Ellipsis | we like 'em hard and long anyway |
| 07:13.15 | Paene | :-O |
| 07:13.43 | Paene | psh, we all know you're not innocent |
| 07:14.05 | Ellipsis | it's true |
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| 07:23.25 | RaydenUni | http://darkwindmedia.com/CGII/CPP/step6.html |
| 07:23.32 | RaydenUni | 2:20am is the best time to work on my new warlock |
| 07:23.56 | Arrowmaster | youre 3 minutes late then |
| 07:24.07 | RaydenUni | logged on 3 minutes ago |
| 07:24.13 | RaydenUni | leveled once, then got on here |
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| 07:28.32 | Pkekyo|journ | so, anyways |
| 07:29.08 | Pkekyo|journ | Fisker-: my point was, MS promised, but didn't follow through with Vista, now they seem to be more or less trying to 'correct' that and bring something new and purty to the table |
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| 07:30.39 | Fisker- | that's correct, but they're not "bringing something new and purty to the table" |
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| 07:31.28 | Pkekyo|journ | well, hopefully, vista getting the server2008 kernel will be a little new and purty |
| 07:32.12 | Fisker- | It's the same kernel, just an updated build |
| 07:33.24 | Pkekyo|journ | stop splitting fucking hairs, I'm running out of them here! |
| 07:33.49 | Fisker- | I'm not splitting hairs |
| 07:33.49 | Fisker- | but |
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| 07:34.12 | Fisker- | Saying "Vista SP1 runs on the longhorn core and Vista runs on the XP core" is not just totally wrong but definitely not splitting hairs |
| 07:34.20 | Fisker- | s/but/and/ |
| 07:34.47 | Pkekyo|journ | I'm not splitting hairs, you are :< |
| 07:34.54 | Fisker- | no u |
| 07:36.08 | syeren | WTB [Ammo]_ !!! |
| 07:36.11 | Ellipsis | dood, Pkekyo|, get some sleep already |
| 07:36.19 | Fisker- | it's 8am fool |
| 07:36.30 | Ellipsis | your mother |
| 07:36.34 | Fisker- | no u |
| 07:36.38 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 07:36.46 | CIA-10 | 03kaelten * r60539 10cgProfiler/ (cgProfiler.toc npcs/npcs.lua): cgProfiler: fixed multiple bugs |
| 07:38.11 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60540 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - add dropdown to sandbox so you can choose between player, target, and pet. |
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| 07:40.04 | xyu | is there any way to get XGroupLoot's Need/Greed/Pass counter to work in Raids? |
| 07:40.11 | xyu | it works fine in 5 mans |
| 07:40.15 | xyu | but if it's a raid, no worky |
| 07:41.18 | Pkekyo|journ | Ellipsisdood, Pkekyo|, get some sleep already <--- I just walked in the door at school, damnit :p |
| 07:42.31 | Killmore | ckknight_ ? |
| 07:42.38 | Pkekyo|journ | no |
| 07:42.39 | ckknight_ | what? |
| 07:42.41 | Killmore | [2008/02/07 02:41:52-473-x1]: PitBull_CastBar\CastBar.lua:132: attempt to index local 'data' (a nil value) |
| 07:42.41 | Killmore | PitBull_CastBar\CastBar.lua:100: in function <Interface\AddOns\PitBull_CastBar\CastBar.lua:98> |
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| 07:42.45 | Killmore | and YES I have the last version |
| 07:43.26 | Killmore | or wau is broken |
| 07:44.16 | syeren | ckknight_, if you was to make a Spell Alert Addon like the one I showed you earlier. |
| 07:44.21 | syeren | Wow, >_< |
| 07:44.23 | syeren | Would be so amazing. |
| 07:45.11 | xyu | i'm also getting pitbull castbar errors btw ^^ |
| 07:45.28 | xyu | [2008/02/06 21:42:48-1355-x95]: PitBull_CastBar\CastBar.lua:407: attempt to index global 'castdata' (a nil value) |
| 07:45.43 | Ellipsis | xyu: update |
| 07:45.45 | Ellipsis | that was already fixed |
| 07:45.50 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60541 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull_CastBar - solve a bug I should've caught earlier. whoopsie-doodle |
| 07:45.57 | Ellipsis | and there's yours, Killmore ^ |
| 07:46.14 | xyu | oki desu~~ |
| 07:48.14 | xyu | i like the new recount feature btw. nifty stuff |
| 07:48.24 | xyu | resetting when entering an instance |
| 07:48.26 | Diao | recount feature? |
| 07:48.27 | Diao | oh |
| 07:49.12 | xyu | i can never get it to match dmg meters numbers though. like not even close |
| 07:50.18 | Pkekyo|journ | got to school 30min ago and allready fell asleep twice >.< |
| 07:51.41 | Pheredhel | Pkekyo: get some coffee... |
| 07:51.46 | xyu | grr i can't figure out why WoW won't close. If i hit exit game it instantly locks up. qq |
| 07:52.18 | xyu | i can hit log out until i get to account name/pass screen but as soon as i hit "quit" , locks up o_O |
| 07:54.31 | Tifi | did you try to disable all addons? |
| 07:55.52 | Pkekyo|journ | Pheredhel: that was the first thing I did when I walked through the door :p |
| 07:55.53 | xyu | hmm nope, i'll give it a shot, but it would be rather annoying if i have to disable every time i want to quit the game ^^ |
| 07:56.20 | Pkekyo|journ | xyu: l2 /console quit |
| 07:57.47 | Tifi | xyu, if this fixes the problem it might be caused by an addon choking on the logout event, and you could find out which one it is by enabling them one at a time |
| 07:58.47 | Tifi | can you /rl? |
| 08:02.11 | Tifi | oh nvm didn't see 'i can hit log out until i get to account name/pass screen but as soon as i hit "quit" , locks up o_O' |
| 08:04.13 | xyu | i can RL fine |
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| 08:04.47 | xyu | what's weird is, if i open a fresh WoW and then log right back out |
| 08:04.51 | xyu | it exits fine |
| 08:05.01 | xyu | it's after i've been playing a while it will do that |
| 08:05.47 | Nargiddley | an addon getting _G into saved vars can have that effect, after it locks up look for a huge file in there |
| 08:06.57 | xyu | a huge file where? where do i look |
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| 08:06.57 | Nargiddley | your WTF folder, one of the Addons saved variables |
| 08:06.57 | xyu | ah ok |
| 08:07.11 | Tifi | but savedvars are saved on /rl or logout, not when you exit the client from the login screen |
| 08:07.42 | Nargiddley | hm |
| 08:08.07 | Nargiddley | maybe not then , misunderstood when the lockup happens |
| 08:08.11 | xyu | yep it's only when the game needs to exit completely |
| 08:08.31 | xyu | i have to close it by ending task |
| 08:08.53 | Xinhuan | delete your cache folder |
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| 08:09.09 | Xinhuan | wow writes to it on programe xit |
| 08:09.11 | Xinhuan | exit |
| 08:09.26 | Xinhuan | you have a corrupted cache |
| 08:09.27 | Orionshock | oy!, can one of the oRA2 ppl go bump the zip on curse... |
| 08:09.33 | Orionshock | it seems to be "out of date" >.> |
| 08:09.40 | xyu | Xinhuan: oki i'll give it a shot, thanks |
| 08:09.43 | Xinhuan | why would you get a wowace addon from curse? |
| 08:10.13 | Orionshock | because wowace is for /beta testers/ and curse is a distro site for stable addons |
| 08:10.17 | Orionshock | :P |
| 08:10.32 | Cairenn | ditto wowi |
| 08:11.14 | Xinhuan | well that begs the question, did the author upload to curse, or some random fanboi? |
| 08:11.33 | Orionshock | cbf if i know |
| 08:11.50 | Orionshock | s/if i/to |
| 08:12.02 | Orionshock | cbf to know |
| 08:12.45 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:12.59 | Diao | does anyone know why my wow client keeps displaying summoned mage water elementals as "alliance general" |
| 08:13.05 | Diao | which apparently is a rare elite spawn |
| 08:13.15 | Diao | only just started a couple days ago |
| 08:13.22 | Diao | i tried repairing the cache D: |
| 08:13.23 | Fisker- | delete your cache |
| 08:13.25 | Orionshock | http://downloads.curse.com/details/6637/ |
| 08:13.26 | Fisker- | then your mother |
| 08:13.32 | Diao | lol |
| 08:13.37 | Orionshock | Project Manager: Ammo |
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| 08:26.35 | Paene | anyone awake? |
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| 08:30.00 | kebinusan | awake? |
| 08:30.02 | kebinusan | pft |
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| 08:31.26 | Paene | lol |
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| 08:34.00 | Paene | Well, if anyone is in a helping mood, I need some help. http://ace.pastey.net/81868 I'm trying to save the anchor positions by the frame's name, however I can't seem to get the frame name from inside SetScript. I'm wondering if it's even possible, or if I'm going to need to create a different "SaveAnchorPosition" function for each button I make |
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| 08:35.04 | Paene | I use the same style of button multiple times with only a different icon, so I'm trying to make button creation simpler |
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| 08:37.40 | Orionshock | Paene: i think it has to do with the use of self? maybe... |
| 08:37.50 | Orionshock | when the script is compiled it uses the wrong self.. |
| 08:38.01 | Paene | yeah, it's using a table value |
| 08:38.11 | Paene | I didn't think to try using name directly, didn't think it would work |
| 08:38.13 | Orionshock | try using "frame" as the first arg to the script |
| 08:38.18 | Nargiddley | I'm not sure how scoping works, but there is the implied self of C3 there as well |
| 08:38.42 | Fin | Diao: pong |
| 08:39.02 | Nargiddley | it should use the self of the inner function but not sure in the case of self :/ |
| 08:39.03 | Xinhuan | C3.db.profile.ButtonPosX[b], C3.db.profile.ButtonPosY[b] = b:GetCenter() |
| 08:39.06 | Xinhuan | b is a frame |
| 08:39.11 | Xinhuan | you need to do b:GetName() |
| 08:39.11 | NightHawkTheSane | woo, anetheron down. |
| 08:39.12 | Diao | nm fin, found the answer to my question already :p |
| 08:39.16 | Fin | oh, righto |
| 08:39.21 | Fin | what was it, just out of curiosity? |
| 08:39.39 | Xinhuan | otherwise, you are using the button itself as a table key |
| 08:39.45 | Xinhuan | not the button's name |
| 08:40.03 | Xinhuan | (i thought that was obvious lol) |
| 08:40.16 | Diao | was a question about abakus cause i saw it on fin.instinct.org |
| 08:40.38 | Fin | aha |
| 08:40.51 | Nargiddley | ah yeah, I missed that its going into SV |
| 08:41.13 | Nargiddley | couldn't see where it was accessing it by name |
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| 08:44.21 | Fin | nevcairiel: when you describe Mapster as a "simple map mod", what does that mean exactly? :) I like simple, map mods interest me - will I need to download it and install it to find out what it does? |
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| 08:45.43 | [Ammo] | Fin: it has fog clearing (so you can see undiscovered terrain), class colored teammates and scalable worldmap |
| 08:45.55 | Fin | woo |
| 08:45.57 | Fin | thanks AMmo |
| 08:45.58 | Fin | -shift |
| 08:46.15 | Tifi | lol |
| 08:46.49 | Xinhuan | and coordinates |
| 08:46.53 | [Ammo] | oh yeah that too |
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| 08:47.36 | Xinhuan | class-colored teammates, and group-colored teammates is a bit different though |
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| 08:48.55 | [Ammo] | class colored |
| 08:48.57 | [Ammo] | not gorup colored |
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| 08:52.05 | Orionshock | wtb bb doing buff check with the major raid 4 buffs |
| 08:53.56 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: use perfectraid |
| 08:53.58 | [Ammo] | and set them up :) |
| 08:54.13 | [Ammo] | I have a magecolored I, a priest colored F, and a druidcolored D |
| 08:54.17 | [Ammo] | next to my praid frames |
| 08:54.21 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.25 | Fin | heh, I like it when I come across a bunch of addons that seem really neat (at least, after a quick glance), and they all seem to be by the same person |
| 08:54.27 | [Ammo] | if those are not there -> yell at people |
| 08:54.52 | Orionshock | people respond to raid chat more often then vent -._ |
| 08:55.04 | Orionshock | -.- |
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| 08:55.50 | FtH|Daemona | why cant blizz get their crap together?! |
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| 08:56.19 | CIA-10 | 03kurax * r60542 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-zhCN.lua: Automaton: zhCN translations for Gossip added |
| 08:57.14 | [Ammo] | FtH|Daemona: I'd say firefox needs to get their crap together if it can crash on something like that |
| 08:57.28 | [Ammo] | my FF hasn't crashed on armory or anything yet |
| 08:58.15 | ckknight | how many guys here have named their penis? |
| 08:58.19 | ckknight | jw |
| 08:58.19 | FtH|Daemona | well then someone gotta explain me how 2 of 10 links to the armory i click make my firefox either hang for 10's of minutes or crash it so i just can shut it down? |
| 08:58.40 | [Ammo] | because firefox is a piece of open source shit? :) |
| 08:58.43 | [Ammo] | haha fin |
| 08:59.12 | ckknight | cause I never have |
| 08:59.19 | Elkano | \o/ DotA 6.50 and WC3 1.21b |
| 08:59.19 | FtH|Daemona | so, whats different then to it crashing the ie6/7 too on two different boxes? ;) |
| 08:59.21 | ckknight | and TV makes it seem like most guys do |
| 08:59.29 | ckknight | so I dunno |
| 08:59.32 | [Ammo] | FtH|Daemona: must be your karma then |
| 08:59.45 | Fin | Opera wins, I thought this had been decided and everyone had been notified |
| 08:59.49 | FtH|Daemona | good that i don't believe in karma and crap ... i want facts |
| 08:59.57 | [Ammo] | Fin: lets not start browser wars ;) |
| 09:00.02 | Ellipsis | karma causes facts |
| 09:00.03 | [Ammo] | lets just say Opera is a nightmare for web developers |
| 09:00.04 | Fin | OK, OK :) |
| 09:00.10 | Fin | hey! |
| 09:00.11 | [Ammo] | probably works fine for users |
| 09:00.18 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:00.19 | Fin | you can't just say let's not start browser wars and then start one! |
| 09:00.27 | Fin | :) |
| 09:00.31 | [Ammo] | I can do anything |
| 09:00.32 | [Ammo] | free world |
| 09:00.34 | [Ammo] | \o/ |
| 09:00.53 | Fin | I am a web developer! and I love Opera, because it's the best so there infinity I win white rabbit no returns |
| 09:00.59 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:01.21 | [Ammo] | here take this blue pill |
| 09:01.48 | Fin | I wonder what would've happened if Neo had taken *both* pills |
| 09:02.21 | FtH|Daemona | hmmm possible complained the taste strange together? |
| 09:03.48 | Fin | seems to be all-y-te in that sentence! |
| 09:03.59 | Fin | ahaha! oh the punnery, oh oh did you see? |
| 09:05.36 | FtH|Daemona | Don't tempt the wrath of the Daemona. |
| 09:05.42 | Ellipsis | thanks! |
| 09:05.49 | Fin | any time |
| 09:06.06 | Ellipsis | woulda been quite annoying to have to go without those |
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| 09:08.27 | Fin | LifePercent: Shows you how many percent of your life you spent in WoW. THIS IS A BAD ADDON ITS DISTRIBUTION MUST BE HALTED NO |
| 09:09.04 | Fin | I hadn't even considered what that figure might be until I saw that... and now it'll haunt me forever |
| 09:09.19 | Fin | still, I'd be curious what other people's figures are |
| 09:12.00 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60543 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Added a Taboos tab to every route, where you can select which taboos (of the same zone) to apply to the route. (It's just pretty checkboxes that works, no actual code is done yet to apply the effects.) |
| 09:13.12 | Fisker- | here [Ammo] [Ammo] |
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| 09:13.29 | Ellipsis | candy? |
| 09:13.32 | Fisker- | yup |
| 09:13.40 | Fisker- | not for you :( |
| 09:13.59 | Fin | oh dear, I just read that as Cartographer_Fisting |
| 09:14.02 | Fin | that's not right is it |
| 09:14.07 | Fisker- | sure is |
| 09:14.28 | Fisker- | also |
| 09:14.30 | Xinhuan | can you please tell me my Life Percent? |
| 09:14.32 | Fisker- | i threaten you with slavery and death |
| 09:14.37 | Civrock | "You have spent 4.8% (32.4% since release) of your life in-game, divided among 1 character(s) on 1 realm(s)." |
| 09:14.53 | Xinhuan | my /played is 499 days, 2 hours, 36 minutes and 34 seconds |
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| 09:15.39 | Fin | ye gods |
| 09:15.55 | Fin | any celebration for the big 5-double-oh tonight? |
| 09:16.15 | Xinhuan | don't think i'll hit it tonight |
| 09:16.55 | Fin | tell you what, though, it's a better waste of time than TV or the pub |
| 09:16.59 | Fin | although the pub is good |
| 09:17.03 | Xinhuan | the day is over in 8 hours |
| 09:17.08 | Xinhuan | and i need 22 hours to hit 500 days |
| 09:17.31 | Fin | it's just not healthy and expensive after a while and sometimes you do stupid things |
| 09:17.58 | Fin | so, tomorrow, 500 days. that's, I'm not sure what the word is, impressive |
| 09:18.03 | Xinhuan | writing addons keeps my brain healthy |
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| 09:19.40 | Civrock | How many days at 70, Xinhuan? |
| 09:19.44 | Paene | Thanks for the help guys, got it working |
| 09:19.51 | Xinhuan | 192 days 7 hours 17 minutes |
| 09:19.53 | Paene | more sleep less coding |
| 09:19.56 | Paene | I'm off to bed |
| 09:19.57 | Paene | later |
| 09:20.01 | Civrock | Hah, 201 days, 9 hours, 50 minutes. |
| 09:20.14 | Xinhuan | yeah but you're not gonna beat my overall |
| 09:20.24 | Civrock | I started late pre-BC. :P |
| 09:20.41 | Xinhuan | i haven't yet found anyone with a higher /played |
| 09:20.45 | Xinhuan | then again i haven't really looked |
| 09:20.49 | Fin | I think I might know someone |
| 09:20.55 | Diao | 500 days.. |
| 09:20.56 | Fin | is that all on one character, btw? |
| 09:21.00 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 09:21.02 | Xinhuan | on one character |
| 09:21.03 | Diao | that's like 10 hours a day |
| 09:21.04 | Diao | every day |
| 09:21.06 | Diao | since wow started? |
| 09:21.16 | Fin | I know someone who had 350 days playtime about a year and a half ago |
| 09:21.18 | Xinhuan | i don't know, i'll install LifePercent and tell you? |
| 09:21.21 | Diao | lol |
| 09:21.22 | Fin | but that was multiple characters |
| 09:21.41 | ramoz | Xinhuan: dont have any alts? |
| 09:21.50 | Xinhuan | i have a lvl 63 alt, that has 7 days played |
| 09:21.56 | Xinhuan | and a lvl 1 guild bank that has 9 days /played |
| 09:22.05 | Xinhuan | does that count? |
| 09:22.14 | ramoz | well yeah |
| 09:22.31 | Killmore | Xinhuan: whats your next challenge after routes_taboo ? |
| 09:22.40 | Xinhuan | not sure yet |
| 09:22.41 | Fin | what is a "taboo", anyway? |
| 09:22.52 | Xinhuan | taboo means "prohibited" or "not allowed" |
| 09:22.57 | Fin | bam |
| 09:22.59 | ramoz | oRA2CoolDown_Fu! |
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| 09:23.17 | Killmore | Xinhuan: a fubar like in ace3 ? |
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| 09:23.22 | Fin | Xinhuan: what does it refer to in the context that you're using it? :) |
| 09:23.27 | Xinhuan | Orionshock is already doing something like that heh |
| 09:23.42 | Xinhuan | it refers to areas where you prohibit your routes from going thru/to |
| 09:24.03 | CIA-10 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r60544 10Grid/Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLayout.lua GridStatus.lua): Grid: (Ace3 branch) fix the remaining options set handlers |
| 09:24.04 | Fin | ohh, right. I see. ahh, is this for like mountains and stuff that get in the way? |
| 09:24.11 | ramoz | wow has been out in aprox 1068 days, and you've played 516 days of that, roughly 12hrs a day, every day, since release |
| 09:24.15 | FtH|Daemona | like... that mountain in the middle of smv |
| 09:24.20 | Orionshock | eh what am i doing? |
| 09:24.20 | FtH|Daemona | or any mountain in vanilla wow |
| 09:24.21 | Xinhuan | more like you want to |
| 09:24.22 | Fin | once you've set up a map right, you should be able to plot automatic routes that are actually 100% doable or summat |
| 09:24.27 | Xinhuan | avoid certain nodes |
| 09:24.32 | Xinhuan | on out of the way floating islands |
| 09:24.33 | Xinhuan | or caves |
| 09:24.46 | Fin | huh, fair enough |
| 09:25.20 | Killmore | it should make routes more usable in pre-bc zone |
| 09:25.34 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 09:25.40 | Xinhuan | i still only consider the straight line paths |
| 09:25.44 | Xinhuan | between every node pair |
| 09:25.50 | Xinhuan | i don't magically bend them for you |
| 09:26.15 | ramoz | that should be your next challange |
| 09:26.18 | ramoz | bending lines! |
| 09:26.20 | Xinhuan | that requires terrain details and A* algo between every node pair, rather than a simple distance calc |
| 09:26.33 | Xinhuan | its the terrain detail thats difficult |
| 09:26.44 | Fin | I thought that's what the taboo areas were sort of doing, Xinhuan |
| 09:26.52 | Fin | allowing the user to specify terrain details to a limited extent |
| 09:27.09 | Xinhuan | i only BIAS the route generation so that it avoids picking edges that pass thru |
| 09:27.19 | Xinhuan | but if there is no option, it will still pick that edge |
| 09:27.29 | Xinhuan | like if you make regions that cut the map into impassable halves |
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| 09:36.27 | Fin | [Ammo]: incidentally, was there something wrong with FishingAce that prompted you to write FishermansFriend? |
| 09:36.49 | [Ammo] | yeah I checked its coding and though hmm |
| 09:36.53 | [Ammo] | that can be done slightly better |
| 09:37.05 | Fin | ah |
| 09:37.13 | [Ammo] | fishermansfriend is half the size |
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| 09:38.45 | Arrowmaster | do you actually hook the worldframe scripts or just set them and overwrite them if another addon has set them like fishingace does? |
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| 09:39.19 | [Ammo] | I don't think I hook |
| 09:39.30 | [Ammo] | but hmm |
| 09:39.57 | [Ammo] | I hook mousedown |
| 09:42.18 | [Ammo] | I do ho9ok |
| 09:42.18 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 09:44.02 | Fin | ! |
| 09:46.38 | Xinhuan | You have spent 5.3% (42.6% since release) of your life in-game, divided among 1 character(s) on 1 realm(s). |
| 09:46.42 | Fisker- | ! |
| 09:46.47 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:46.52 | Fisker- | timestamps ftl |
| 09:47.07 | Xinhuan | i don't think that's right |
| 09:47.23 | FinalX | lol |
| 09:47.25 | Xinhuan | how many days between Nov 23 2005 and today? |
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| 09:47.48 | Civrock | 807 |
| 09:47.50 | Xinhuan | 3 years 1 month 15 days? |
| 09:48.05 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 09:48.10 | FinalX | eh no, it's not nov 2008 yet so cant be 3 years :P |
| 09:48.15 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 09:48.20 | Xinhuan | so what's 499/807 |
| 09:48.28 | Xinhuan | 61.834 % |
| 09:48.59 | Xinhuan | is wow released in 2004 nov or 2005 nov hmm |
| 09:49.06 | Fin | the game was released before Nov 23 2005 |
| 09:49.13 | FinalX | nov 2004 i think |
| 09:49.31 | Fin | it was released in Europe on Feb 14th 2005, I think |
| 09:49.34 | Xinhuan | 499/1140 = 43.7% |
| 09:49.41 | Xinhuan | ah that's closer to 42.6% |
| 09:49.52 | Fin | did you play beta? |
| 09:50.05 | FtH|Daemona | uuuh my /guildinfo says -> created on Feb 11 '05 |
| 09:50.07 | FinalX | November 23, 2004 |
| 09:50.12 | Xinhuan | local releaseDate = 1101196800 -- default to enUS for all other cases -- 2004-11-23 00:00:00 GMT -8 1101196800 |
| 09:50.14 | FinalX | I did :o |
| 09:50.29 | Xinhuan | i guess 42.6% is correct |
| 09:50.38 | FinalX | 11th of feb 2005 in europe i think |
| 09:50.39 | Fin | that was from memory - guess I'm off a few days? :) |
| 09:50.59 | Xinhuan | local TOO_OLD = "You're too old, LifePercent doesn't support people born before 1971. Although if you want to make it able to, you can contact the author, because it should be possible to make it work (at least if you run WoW on Mac!)." |
| 09:51.00 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 09:51.24 | FtH|Daemona | haha |
| 09:51.34 | FinalX | yeah, windows sucks with dates pre-'71 |
| 09:52.18 | FinalX | Yeah, US November 23 2004, EU February 11 2005 according to WikiPedia |
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| 10:00.05 | Xinhuan | ~kill the channel |
| 10:00.07 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-meson gun at the channel |
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| 10:03.00 | Diao | yea i remember |
| 10:03.04 | Diao | because it was my freshman year in college |
| 10:03.06 | Diao | that wow came out |
| 10:03.06 | Diao | lol |
| 10:03.07 | Panye | guys, I need inspiration for a new font, myraid pro has ran it course :/ |
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| 10:03.59 | Diao | such a long time ago :( |
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| 10:08.03 | Fisker- | IT INFURIATES ME |
| 10:08.18 | nevcairiel | And i thought mmo-champion was a better page then worldofraids, now they decided to post the obvious fake logs too |
| 10:08.26 | Fisker- | they? |
| 10:08.46 | nevcairiel | what do i care how many people run that place |
| 10:08.53 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:09.05 | Fisker- | they're worth mentioning anyways |
| 10:09.25 | nevcairiel | they're so obvious fake |
| 10:09.52 | nevcairiel | some changes on that list change the way a full class/spec feels |
| 10:09.58 | nevcairiel | thats just wrong |
| 10:10.04 | Fisker- | it's blizztard |
| 10:10.06 | Fisker- | you never know |
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| 10:10.41 | nevcairiel | its like everything players have been crying nerf for, or wanting to have |
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| 10:10.44 | nevcairiel | not going to happen |
| 10:10.57 | Fisker- | well AV happened |
| 10:11.23 | Fisker- | that seems to sum up pretty much everything about players crying |
| 10:11.31 | Fisker- | caved in to the whine |
| 10:12.03 | [Ammo] | look who's whining now :p |
| 10:12.23 | Arrowmaster | "With haste gear you can work toward lowering the GCD down to 1 second, but it will take more than just gear to max it. |
| 10:12.23 | Arrowmaster | You can max it with the use of both haste on gear and abilities/talents. |
| 10:12.32 | Arrowmaster | do we really need a quote from a blue to know that? |
| 10:12.56 | Fisker- | btw |
| 10:13.03 | Arrowmaster | seriously with a little math you find out it take over 780 spell haste rating and its kinda obvious that you cant do it with gear alone |
| 10:13.16 | Fisker- | any of you ever had a problem where your instance difficulty is always set to heroic? |
| 10:13.18 | Xinhuan | its obvious its fake |
| 10:13.26 | Xinhuan | did you see the |
| 10:13.31 | Xinhuan | "Turn Undead" one |
| 10:13.34 | Xinhuan | about lasting 10 secs in pvp |
| 10:13.45 | Arrowmaster | for the demons part |
| 10:13.46 | FinalX | Fisker-: dont have that problem, but its sticky to what you set it last iirc |
| 10:13.52 | Fisker- | yeah if reducing the GCD was the same formula as reducing cast time Arrowmaster |
| 10:13.53 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:14.00 | Fisker- | No FinalX it's not :o |
| 10:14.15 | Diao | mine stickies to whatever i set it to last |
| 10:14.17 | Arrowmaster | banish has diminishing returns and a max time on it in pvp when banishing another warlocks demon |
| 10:14.32 | FinalX | Diao: quoting that out of context could be so wrong.. |
| 10:14.44 | Arrowmaster | that part i would actually believe, the rest of those notes i dont |
| 10:15.10 | Diao | i could see the frost changes happening |
| 10:15.16 | Diao | some of them anyway |
| 10:15.19 | Fisker- | it shouldn't be sticking to what it was set last |
| 10:15.32 | FinalX | why not? |
| 10:15.39 | Fisker- | because it doesn't |
| 10:15.39 | FinalX | it's the default behaviour |
| 10:15.41 | Fisker- | not here |
| 10:15.51 | FinalX | sure is in normal blizzard ui |
| 10:15.56 | FinalX | (what YOU set it to, that is) |
| 10:15.57 | Fisker- | not here |
| 10:15.59 | FinalX | it's like the pvp flag |
| 10:17.19 | Fisker- | do you play on the european servers or the us ones? |
| 10:18.00 | Diao | US here |
| 10:18.36 | Fisker- | if i only had a us client and account |
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| 10:19.14 | FinalX | EU here. |
| 10:19.23 | Panye | question, what fonts do people use? |
| 10:19.34 | Tifi | err Fisker- how do you expect it to behave? always reset to normal? |
| 10:19.44 | Fisker- | It's how it behaves |
| 10:20.09 | Arrowmaster | arial narrow and friz quadrata tt |
| 10:20.21 | Fisker- | and yeah that's how i expect it to behave as well |
| 10:20.33 | FtH|Daemona | ooh damn, i am blind... there was just a NE hunter riding past me... with icy weapon on a GM Claymore... its just a... BIG WHITE GLOW |
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| 10:21.19 | Tifi | and if you set it to normal it still jumps back to heroic? |
| 10:21.23 | Arrowmaster | the instance difficulty setting has always stayed on whatever i last set it to for me |
| 10:21.36 | Fisker- | Tifi with my problem yeah |
| 10:21.41 | Fisker- | Arrowmaster and what would be cool at that? |
| 10:21.47 | Fisker- | You know that BG's are considered normal instances? |
| 10:21.55 | Fisker- | So by 5 bg's you would be unable to enter new instances |
| 10:21.58 | Fisker- | sounds like a good idea |
| 10:22.08 | Tifi | huh? |
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| 10:22.25 | Fisker- | you have a max of 5 instance resets |
| 10:22.26 | Arrowmaster | that made no sense |
| 10:22.28 | Fisker- | per hour |
| 10:22.39 | Fisker- | when you reach that number you can no longer enter new instances |
| 10:22.50 | Arrowmaster | this is common knowledge |
| 10:22.54 | Fisker- | yes |
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| 10:23.07 | Diao | what |
| 10:23.09 | Fisker- | but you still had to ask for it |
| 10:23.21 | Fisker- | so apparently you're just stupid or what? |
| 10:23.24 | Arrowmaster | no you just randomly stated it |
| 10:23.40 | Tifi | how is this related to your issue? o.O |
| 10:23.43 | Fisker- | [11:22:08] <Tifi> huh? |
| 10:23.47 | Diao | i'm confused |
| 10:23.48 | Diao | lol |
| 10:24.06 | Arrowmaster | i think Fisker- has lost it again |
| 10:24.07 | Fisker- | it's related to issue that by having my instances stuck to heroic all the time i'm wasting the maximum number of allowed resets per hour |
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| 10:24.15 | Arrowmaster | no your not |
| 10:24.24 | Fisker- | Yes i am |
| 10:24.29 | Arrowmaster | by bging? |
| 10:24.36 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:24.41 | Tifi | lol |
| 10:25.05 | Fisker- | You're saying that it should stick to whatever you had chosen as dungeon difficulty |
| 10:25.12 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 10:25.21 | Arrowmaster | because it does |
| 10:25.22 | Fisker- | If it were to do that, i.e. be stuck at heroic it would reset your instances each time you entered a BG |
| 10:25.25 | Fisker- | not. |
| 10:25.45 | Fisker- | just finishing your sentence there |
| 10:25.51 | Arrowmaster | im not sure if it does that or not |
| 10:26.00 | Fisker- | really just login, set to heroic, log out, login, it's set to normal |
| 10:26.12 | Fisker- | infact i've just done it a couple of times |
| 10:26.30 | Arrowmaster | you probably have a mod thats setting it to normal then |
| 10:26.35 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:26.42 | Arrowmaster | although i havent changed mine in a very long time |
| 10:26.43 | Fisker- | You want me to do it on 3 different machines as well? |
| 10:26.45 | Fisker- | With no mods? |
| 10:26.51 | Arrowmaster | but thats how it used to work atleast |
| 10:26.52 | Fisker- | already been there, done that |
| 10:27.32 | Arrowmaster | why are we discussing this again? |
| 10:27.45 | Diao | what the heck lol |
| 10:27.48 | Fisker- | because being stuck in heroic mode some times is annoying |
| 10:27.51 | Diao | uhh |
| 10:27.52 | Fisker- | and i need a fix |
| 10:28.01 | Arrowmaster | how are you stuck in heroic mode? |
| 10:28.01 | Diao | when i do a heroic |
| 10:28.10 | Diao | if i set it to heroic mode |
| 10:28.12 | Diao | it stays heroic even if i enter bg |
| 10:28.17 | Diao | and i have no problems at all going into an instance afterwards |
| 10:28.25 | Fisker- | When i leave a group it gets reset to heroic if it's set to normal |
| 10:28.31 | Fisker- | if i set it to normal and relog it's set to heroic |
| 10:28.35 | Fisker- | and it does that for like a week |
| 10:28.46 | Arrowmaster | try settting it to epic |
| 10:28.50 | Arrowmaster | see what happens |
| 10:28.55 | Fisker- | This is the third time it has happened, and it keeps it like that until the weekly server maintanence |
| 10:29.06 | Fisker- | and gm's are liek "ooh how do we shot web? it's working as intended lawls" |
| 10:29.08 | SunTsu | Fisker-: It will reset to heroic if you had it set to heroic before entering the group in which the leader set it to normal |
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| 10:29.25 | Fisker- | shush SunTsu |
| 10:29.45 | Arrowmaster | hes saying hes ungrouped and changes it from heroic to normal then relogs and its back on heroic |
| 10:29.58 | Fisker- | for example |
| 10:30.04 | Diao | that's weird |
| 10:30.11 | Diao | mine stays on whatever i set it to, no matter whether i logout or not |
| 10:30.29 | Fisker- | the default behaviour here is it's normal regardless of what |
| 10:30.32 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: So "<Fisker-> When i leave a group it gets reset to heroic if it's set to normal" is o be translated into that? How so? |
| 10:30.35 | Fisker- | which i would expect to be the correct behaviour |
| 10:30.40 | Tifi | he's right, same for me, just set it to normal, logout, login, it's set to heroic |
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| 10:30.59 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:31.05 | Fisker- | then you're experiencing the same bug as me, wee |
| 10:31.07 | Arrowmaster | sounds like some bug then |
| 10:31.20 | Arrowmaster | probably related to the title bug |
| 10:32.21 | Arrowmaster | where my armory didnt update for 3 months because i had my title set to champion of the narru, then i found out to get my armory to update i had to change my title to none and relog, but everytime i logged back in it was set back to champion of the narru |
| 10:32.50 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: Yeah, rezoning will reset it, too |
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| 10:33.17 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: here that, try changing to normal then zone and relog |
| 10:33.19 | SunTsu | It always sets my PvP title again |
| 10:33.24 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 10:33.36 | Arrowmaster | not reset but rebug you mean? |
| 10:33.52 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: Well, I unset, it re-sets it |
| 10:34.00 | Fisker- | probably something Tifi could test |
| 10:34.03 | Arrowmaster | silly bugs |
| 10:34.11 | Fisker- | the bug disappears for a while after a server maintanence |
| 10:35.09 | Arrowmaster | hate windows, need to reboot now for some codec updates |
| 10:35.40 | Tifi | nope, still gets reset to heroic after setting it to normal, zoning from terrokar into shatt, logout, login |
| 10:36.13 | Arrowmaster | try /run SetDungeonDifficulty(3) |
| 10:36.29 | Arrowmaster | and if you get an error try correcting my spelling if i misspelled it |
| 10:36.31 | Fisker- | old carnival tricks are oooooooooooold |
| 10:36.52 | Arrowmaster | see if it resets to heroic still |
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| 10:40.41 | clad|office | i think ckknight__'s internet connection is even worse than mine |
| 10:41.30 | [Ammo] | the connection my irssi server is on sucks as well |
| 10:41.31 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 10:42.04 | Tifi | it also doesn't remember when i zone in and out of an instance after setting to normal, and OMG when i logout in a normal dungeon i'm in a heroic dungeon after the login (!) |
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| 10:42.39 | Jio | Good morning, folks. |
| 10:43.05 | Zhinjio | there we go. |
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| 10:43.14 | Zhinjio | anyone have serious CSS fu? |
| 10:43.19 | Zhinjio | I've got a weirdness I cannot fix. |
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| 10:44.18 | Tifi | lol and if i zone into and out of that instance, im getting teleported |
| 10:45.23 | SunTsu | Tifi: Do you have problems while zoning out in the world, too? |
| 10:46.06 | Tifi | no |
| 10:46.42 | Zhinjio | *cry( |
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| 10:48.24 | Tifi | i'm not getting teleported, after setting it to normal, then heroic, then zoning in, out, and back in |
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| 10:50.20 | Zhinjio | G'morning, ckknight. |
| 10:50.43 | Diao | uh |
| 10:50.55 | Diao | Tifi, you don't get ported out of heroics anymore even if you leave the group |
| 10:51.09 | Diao | because you're saved to the instance |
| 10:51.37 | Tifi | no i don't have an id |
| 10:52.20 | Tifi | ok doesn't matter |
| 10:52.42 | Tifi | the point was that i *was* getting teleported earlier |
| 10:52.43 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r60545 10Ace3/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:52.43 | CIA-10 | Ace3 (merge) |
| 10:52.43 | CIA-10 | - AceGUI: SetToplevel(true) for the Frame widget, multiple open windows should play nice together now |
| 10:52.43 | CIA-10 | - AceGUI: Move Frames to the FULLSCREEN_DIALOG strata |
| 10:52.43 | CIA-10 | AceGUI: Dropdown, Editbox and Keybinding labels grey out when disabled |
| 10:52.44 | CIA-10 | - AceGUI: Add OnClick callback to the TreeGroup widget |
| 10:52.46 | CIA-10 | - AceConfigDialog: Confirm popups will be above the config window |
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| 10:54.38 | Tifi | dammit can't do any more tests, entered too many instances ._. |
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| 10:57.40 | CIA-10 | Vengance: |
| 10:57.40 | CIA-10 | - Fixed DB handling |
| 10:59.22 | Pkekyo|journ | g'morning all |
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| 11:02.32 | Pkekyo|journ | is it possible to add comments to the realmlist.wtf file? :p |
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| 11:02.48 | Tifi | any news on http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-58 aka 'The dragLink type needs support'? |
| 11:02.53 | Zariel | doubt it it probally gets re written |
| 11:03.00 | Tifi | aka custom widgets in config dialogs |
| 11:03.13 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r60547 10Ace3/CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: |
| 11:03.13 | CIA-10 | Ace3 - CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 11:03.13 | CIA-10 | - remove unnecessary table creation if a event is fired thats not registered |
| 11:03.14 | CIA-10 | - small tweak to :Fire function |
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| 11:04.10 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r60548 10Ace3/CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: |
| 11:04.10 | CIA-10 | Ace3 - CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 11:04.11 | CIA-10 | - bump minor rev too |
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| 11:05.18 | Zhinjio | Pkekyo: how's your CSS fu? Any good? |
| 11:05.20 | Tifi | mikk said 'Fwiw, Nargiddley just implemented a custom control for AceConfigDialog (and will be for AceConfigDropdown) accomplishing everything that "dragLink" wanted (I think), while still living in a type=input.' was this commited? |
| 11:05.53 | nevcairiel | depends when he said that |
| 11:05.54 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:06.06 | Tifi | 27/Oct/07 09:42 AM |
| 11:06.10 | Tifi | ^^ |
| 11:06.23 | Recluse | not that i'm looking to do this, but was talking with a friend: it'd be possible to, say, auto-tell to people who get too close to pulling aggro, yeah? |
| 11:06.55 | nevcairiel | probably not on SVN then, since it says "custom control", it wont be in Ace3 anyway, just be around somewhere to be used, maybe in jira |
| 11:07.13 | FtH|Daemona | Recluse anyone with half an eye on the omen window can yell at people on voice comm |
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| 11:07.25 | FtH|Daemona | i doubt ppl watch their chat frames for whispers |
| 11:07.51 | Recluse | yeah, but possible..? |
| 11:08.01 | nevcairiel | sure its possible |
| 11:08.11 | Tifi | hmm so you can use custom widgets in AceConfigDialog-3.0 dialogs? |
| 11:08.13 | nevcairiel | whispering is unprotected, you can whisper on any event |
| 11:08.22 | Recluse | hehe |
| 11:08.37 | nevcairiel | Tifi: sure, they just have to conform to the API of an exisiting widget |
| 11:09.20 | Tifi | and how do i specify the custom type? |
| 11:09.39 | FtH|Daemona | and trust me, yelling at ppl in centrilo is far more efficient then those red flashy screen omen does on 90% threat ;) |
| 11:09.50 | Recluse | lol |
| 11:10.02 | vithos | i use a custom .wav of a female TTS voice saying "threat" at 85% |
| 11:10.12 | Pkekyo|journ | 12:05ZhinjioPkekyo: how's your CSS fu? Any good? <--- fu? I'm familliar with CSS, not so much familliar with the 'fu' part of it, why? :p |
| 11:10.17 | FtH|Daemona | 85% ? ? ? |
| 11:10.21 | FtH|Daemona | your a sissy vithos |
| 11:10.28 | Recluse | well, it was more an issue with pugs and all we were discussing, but i have no plans on writing anything to do it |
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| 11:10.56 | FtH|Daemona | well recluse the point with pugs... would require them to have at least threat lib ;) |
| 11:11.38 | vithos | they wouldn't need anything to receive whispers from you |
| 11:11.40 | Recluse | yeah, i dunno about 85% |
| 11:11.56 | vhaarr | you don't pull aggro until 110/130% |
| 11:11.58 | Recluse | Daemona: that's true |
| 11:12.01 | FtH|Daemona | and can you imagine how annoying that whisper would be for same named multi mob situations? ;) |
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| 11:12.10 | vithos | i used 90% before, and found it was too high |
| 11:12.24 | FtH|Daemona | vithos they would need thread lib to report their threat level in the beginning |
| 11:12.29 | [Ammo] | I try and stay below 100% because there is always someone who fucks up and the mob runs near me :) |
| 11:12.36 | FtH|Daemona | s/thread/threat |
| 11:12.40 | vithos | oh, right. |
| 11:12.46 | Fin | dots! |
| 11:13.01 | Tifi | nevcairiel, how do i specify the custom type? |
| 11:13.31 | FtH|Daemona | i regularly go into the 95-100% area before vanishing :X |
| 11:13.37 | FtH|Daemona | on raid encounters that is |
| 11:14.02 | nevcairiel | Tifi: i think you set the dialogControl="" attribute |
| 11:14.10 | vithos | i like 85% because FD can resist |
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| 11:14.26 | FtH|Daemona | thats another thing i never get... hunters pulling aggro ... |
| 11:14.30 | vithos | so if it resists, it's better that it resists sooner |
| 11:14.42 | vithos | well, there's also the matter of FD's that don't resist failing to reset threat |
| 11:14.45 | vithos | because blizzard can't code |
| 11:14.56 | nevcairiel | i suppose hunters just use FD when its ready? |
| 11:15.02 | Tifi | Pattern not found: dialogControl |
| 11:15.03 | FtH|Daemona | of course not nev |
| 11:15.07 | FtH|Daemona | it costs mana ! |
| 11:15.09 | vithos | and the matter of generating upwards of 2000 tps at times |
| 11:15.13 | Tifi | in AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua |
| 11:15.20 | vithos | it's not about the mana, it's about the gcd |
| 11:15.50 | [Ammo] | Tifi: that stuff might not have been fully implemented yet |
| 11:16.10 | Tifi | mkay |
| 11:16.34 | vithos | it's worse than just a gcd really |
| 11:16.46 | vithos | since you're also not autoshotting |
| 11:17.09 | vithos | and it resets the shot timer back to 0, so there's a long delay before your next one |
| 11:17.13 | nevcairiel | everytime a hunter pulls aggro i feel like removing them from the raid because they didnt want to FD on cooldown just because it eats 1% dmg |
| 11:17.28 | Megalon | at least, IF a hunter pulls aggro, he'll wait till the mob is at his feet and THEN use fd! |
| 11:17.48 | vithos | it's more like 8% dps |
| 11:18.31 | nevcairiel | let it be 10, but if you pull aggro, and like 2 other dds die because you're a slowass on FD clicking, or even resist in that case, its more then 8% :P |
| 11:18.31 | Recluse | can't believe fel lotus shot up to 50g/ea |
| 11:18.38 | vithos | but yeah, i'm tired of people bitching about hunters pulling aggro when it's because the game is broken and has been broken for years |
| 11:19.06 | vithos | because FD can be cast successfully, go on cooldown, not be resisted, and silently fail |
| 11:19.14 | vithos | because the reset is attached to the end of the animation |
| 11:19.18 | vithos | it's like it has a hidden castbar |
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| 11:19.43 | Megalon | /script HiddenCastingBar:Show() ! |
| 11:20.27 | vithos | but what's worse is paladins who try to give hunters salv on illidan. |
| 11:20.36 | LAG|Domo | I'm trying to find this old addon I used for ages as a rogue...it hid the "Ability Not Ready" and "Not Enough Energy" spam...anyone have a clue what it's called, I totally forgot.. |
| 11:20.45 | [Ammo] | ErrorMonster |
| 11:20.47 | [Ammo] | will do that |
| 11:20.48 | Recluse | roguespam? |
| 11:20.51 | Recluse | ah |
| 11:20.56 | vithos | ErrorMonster is it |
| 11:20.57 | LAG|Domo | Muchios Gracias |
| 11:23.35 | vithos | actually it's not like a hidden castbar |
| 11:23.50 | vithos | because if were like a cast, you wouldn't be able to interrupt it by casting |
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| 11:24.41 | vithos | imo if blizzard wants you to have to wait, they should give it a stun effect or a castbar, but leaving it broken is a joke |
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| 11:24.50 | CIA-10 | FuBar_IceHudFu: |
| 11:24.50 | CIA-10 | Adds a FuBar opition for IceHud. |
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| 11:29.01 | Tifi | vithos, you can interrupt channeled spells by casting |
| 11:30.17 | Fin | woohoo! "On February 2, 2008, media reports suggested there had been significant progress in the talks and that by the end of the business week starting February 4, 2008, a contract proposal may be announced.[9] The strike will possibly end on February 11, 2008." |
| 11:30.39 | Fin | come ON strike negotiations, you can DO IT |
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| 11:32.44 | vithos | Tifi: not before the gcd is up you can't |
| 11:33.03 | vithos | and not by trying to autoattack either |
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| 11:36.23 | Orionshock | ouch |
| 11:36.26 | Orionshock | FAIL! |
| 11:36.28 | Orionshock | http://wowwebstats.com/bws6b4u442muk |
| 11:36.46 | Orionshock | ^^ my guild BTW :\ |
| 11:36.56 | nevcairiel | nearly 3h and only 5 trys? |
| 11:36.57 | nevcairiel | you suk |
| 11:36.59 | nevcairiel | *suck |
| 11:37.34 | Orionshock | thanks nevcairiel for the support, i love you too. |
| 11:37.53 | nevcairiel | and your people have rather weird names |
| 11:38.04 | FinalX | and that's coming from you... :) |
| 11:38.11 | Orionshock | Ausie's for ya |
| 11:39.57 | FtH|Daemona | Orionshock o.O your rogues suck |
| 11:40.06 | nevcairiel | My name is kinda unique, and not a stupid compound word like "bonebagg", or "dubrogue" |
| 11:40.33 | nevcairiel | or even better, naming chars after spells |
| 11:40.36 | nevcairiel | coldsnap the mage |
| 11:40.36 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 11:41.13 | [SW]Dodge | yea Coldsnap as fire mage :D |
| 11:41.22 | nevcairiel | Somehow people with bad names generally play bad |
| 11:41.29 | FtH|Daemona | on the other hand... if you really run the groups like listed below the meters... you need some slapping for no shaman/warrior in the rogue group |
| 11:41.44 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: is there a way to let a group in AceConfig(Dialog)-3.0 be open by default? :) |
| 11:42.20 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: only through funny hacks |
| 11:42.25 | [SW]Dodge | http://dodgex.servegame.com/config.jpg <- like that |
| 11:42.53 | [SW]Dodge | funny hacks...? sounds... funny :D |
| 11:42.54 | nevcairiel | plus you should get priests in your raid =P |
| 11:43.13 | nevcairiel | since when does WWS show group composition? |
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| 11:43.39 | vithos | it's the beta version |
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| 11:43.58 | vithos | has an addon ingame |
| 11:44.04 | nevcairiel | ah that sucky thing |
| 11:44.10 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: can you show me a little example? :)) |
| 11:44.13 | FtH|Daemona | i prefer autoCL ;) |
| 11:45.04 | nevcairiel | I use LoggerHead and WWS1 |
| 11:45.43 | kebinusan | yeah, it requires a free chat channel though |
| 11:45.48 | kebinusan | which kinda sucks |
| 11:45.56 | nevcairiel | yeah, l2addoncomm |
| 11:46.12 | vithos | nah, it uses the chat channel to save data |
| 11:46.13 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: i think it does it to write to chatlog |
| 11:46.16 | vithos | instead of savedvars |
| 11:46.16 | FtH|Daemona | suggest em to use Ace? |
| 11:46.21 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 11:46.37 | kebinusan | still would prefer it write to a SV or something |
| 11:46.47 | vithos | definitely |
| 11:46.52 | FtH|Daemona | savedvar is not crash save is it? |
| 11:46.52 | vithos | it's pretty dumb how it does it now |
| 11:46.54 | nevcairiel | anyway, the new 2.4 full detail combatlog should provide everything they need |
| 11:47.01 | vithos | sometimes it spams the wrong channel with crap too |
| 11:47.02 | FtH|Daemona | where /chatlog and /combatlog are |
| 11:47.25 | kebinusan | pretty sure combatlog and chatlog get wiped on crash too |
| 11:47.37 | kebinusan | well not wiped |
| 11:47.39 | kebinusan | but you lose data |
| 11:48.01 | Snago | you'll loose the most recent data, yes.. but not all |
| 11:48.28 | Snago | not sure how often it writes to disk |
| 11:48.29 | FtH|Daemona | exactly |
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| 11:54.57 | cncfanatics | you all fail ! |
| 11:56.27 | Hobby | quick question, why doesn't wow commit saved variables to disk when switching characters, etc? |
| 11:56.39 | Xinhuan | um, it does? |
| 11:56.51 | cncfanatics | Hobby: it does |
| 11:56.53 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't, then your file/folder is write protected |
| 11:57.02 | Hobby | i wonder if something has a lock |
| 11:57.16 | cncfanatics | Hobby: is it saving when you logout ? |
| 11:57.22 | Hobby | i did frame setups on 3 characters, crashed out and none of them saved |
| 11:57.36 | Hobby | right now it's only saving when i completely close wow |
| 11:57.36 | cncfanatics | 2 of the chars should have saved just fine |
| 11:57.42 | nevcairiel | crashing can clear your SV if youre unlucky |
| 11:57.49 | sb | The Raid UI now can display the range of players relative to you. The option to enable this is in the Party & Raid section of the UI Options. |
| 11:57.50 | sb | hmm |
| 11:57.53 | sb | sounds interesting :) |
| 11:58.08 | Hobby | bah i thought wow just didn't do it, i'll have to see what has a handle on it when i get back from work |
| 11:58.29 | cncfanatics | sb: does that mean we'll finaly get a distance api ? |
| 11:58.49 | FtH|Daemona | no more checking via bandages? ^^ |
| 11:58.59 | cncfanatics | hmmm, intresting |
| 11:59.01 | cncfanatics | if its exact range |
| 11:59.07 | nevcairiel | it'll probably just show inrange/out of range |
| 11:59.10 | nevcairiel | not exact |
| 11:59.14 | cncfanatics | inrange of what nevcairiel ? |
| 11:59.36 | nevcairiel | some fixed range |
| 11:59.52 | nevcairiel | i doubt they add a exact range function, but we'll see when PTR arrives |
| 12:00.04 | cncfanatics | they make it sound like its exact range |
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| 12:01.29 | CIA-10 | RatingBuster: |
| 12:01.29 | CIA-10 | - Updated Taiwan localization |
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| 12:09.05 | Neebler | When you least expect it, 4am, me, you, and a buncha commas |
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| 12:13.31 | cncfanatics | Neebler: you're weird |
| 12:13.50 | thul | hehe |
| 12:13.53 | thul | yeah :-P |
| 12:14.06 | thul | Pkekyo|journ: i want a fn herstal |
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| 12:15.17 | chexsum | sb, is that default wow behaviour ? |
| 12:15.34 | sb | uhm what? |
| 12:16.05 | chexsum | 10sb: 01The Raid UI now can display the range of players relative to you. The option to enable this is in the Party & Raid section of the UI Options. |
| 12:16.13 | sb | well 2.4 bluepost |
| 12:16.18 | nevcairiel | that is not default, but it will be soonish |
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| 12:16.29 | chexsum | cool |
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| 12:16.52 | chexsum | they need to make nicer frames now :P |
| 12:17.00 | chexsum | so we dont need frame mods |
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| 12:57.55 | Elsia | heya |
| 12:59.56 | nevcairiel | y'ello |
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| 13:08.29 | Josh_Borke | Bibi: Turn Undead now lasts 10 sec. in PvP.? |
| 13:08.51 | Bibi_Laptop | like in, turn undead now works on demon ? |
| 13:08.55 | Bibi_Laptop | and, warlock pets are demons ? |
| 13:09.00 | Josh_Borke | ah, ok |
| 13:10.03 | thul | oooh |
| 13:10.08 | thul | so you can fear the warlocks pet? |
| 13:10.10 | thul | THE IRONY |
| 13:12.18 | Zariel | official notes out? |
| 13:12.28 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 13:12.38 | Zariel | The Raid UI now can display the range of players relative to you. The option to enable this is in the Party & Raid section of the UI Options. |
| 13:12.39 | Zariel | oh nice |
| 13:13.30 | Zariel | can you already get the distance between you and someone? |
| 13:13.37 | FinalX | yes |
| 13:13.48 | FinalX | i have a range addon for grid ^^ |
| 13:14.10 | Zariel | ye i think its a spell it checks against |
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| 13:19.46 | FtH|Daemona | e.g. bandages, heals, ranged attacks and stuff like that |
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| 13:21.00 | Firelemming | hi all |
| 13:21.40 | Firelemming | does anybody know the chat command to make a timer with quartz? |
| 13:23.20 | Firelemming | nevermind, reading his code now and figured it out :) |
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| 13:26.03 | CIA-10 | SimpleSoulstone: |
| 13:26.03 | CIA-10 | -Fixed interaction with Spirit of Redemption |
| 13:27.19 | Kazie | I was wondering.. if anyone is able to answer me this.. How come Xloot and Xlootmonitor is not 1 addon with the possibility to disable one and other? |
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| 13:57.04 | Stanzilla | sdouble: yup! => http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB |
| 13:57.14 | sdouble | Ah, I thought that was just for bugs |
| 13:57.28 | sdouble | I was looking at it and everything is mentioned about bugs. |
| 13:57.28 | kenlyric | features are bugs, eventually |
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| 13:57.58 | sdouble | i didn't want to post there and be one of "those" people. |
| 13:58.15 | Stanzilla | hehe no problem..just mark your post as "improvement" |
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| 13:58.28 | Stanzilla | or new feature |
| 13:58.31 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 13:58.43 | sdouble | ah, I see it now. Thanks. |
| 13:59.39 | sdouble | I guess first, I should make sure it's not already possible. Adding the level of the character/mob/whatever in the portrait section instead of a portrait or an overlap of the portrait by option. |
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| 14:12.48 | Ashe`` | hi all |
| 14:13.21 | Ashe`` | anyone here who can help me with LibHealComm-3.0? Just some basic questions on how to add it to an existing addon |
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| 14:15.10 | Xinhuan | i don't think anyone here used libhealcomm 3 before |
| 14:15.19 | Xinhuan | its a new-ish lib |
| 14:16.07 | Ashe`` | well, the problem is probably not healcomm 3 related. I just developed my last addon like 2 years ago and have no idea about the new stuff |
| 14:16.23 | Ashe`` | Specifically i have no idea how I add the library to a non-ace2 addon |
| 14:16.43 | Xinhuan | well if your addon is not an ace2 addon, it doesn't really matter |
| 14:16.58 | Xinhuan | its more to do with whether the library is embeddable |
| 14:17.11 | Xinhuan | if it is not, using it is simply a matter of |
| 14:17.24 | Xinhuan | local LHC = LibStub("LibHealComm-3.0") |
| 14:17.31 | Xinhuan | then LCH:somefunction() |
| 14:17.45 | Ashe`` | i read that, but I think i require LibStub then |
| 14:17.52 | Xinhuan | if it is embeddable, then |
| 14:17.56 | Xinhuan | generally |
| 14:17.59 | Xinhuan | you can do |
| 14:18.18 | Xinhuan | local LHC = LibStub("LibHealComm-3.0") |
| 14:18.23 | Xinhuan | local mytable = {} |
| 14:18.33 | Xinhuan | LHC:Embed(mytable) |
| 14:18.41 | Xinhuan | then you can use mytable:somefunction() |
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| 14:18.55 | Ashe`` | i see your point |
| 14:18.55 | Xinhuan | but generally speaking, both methods are identical |
| 14:19.07 | Ashe`` | well, it should be embeddable |
| 14:19.12 | Xinhuan | because it just copies a list of embeddable functions to your table |
| 14:19.37 | Xinhuan | except that the "self" reference refers to your table |
| 14:19.41 | Xinhuan | rather than LHC |
| 14:19.50 | Xinhuan | so that distinction is important |
| 14:20.24 | Ashe`` | i see |
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| 14:20.37 | Ashe`` | welk my problem is different then |
| 14:20.41 | Xinhuan | what is it? |
| 14:20.46 | Ashe`` | well* |
| 14:20.59 | Ashe`` | hm, I don't know how to embedd the library :) |
| 14:21.03 | Xinhuan | LibStub is just a small 25 line or so library that is required for lhc3 to work |
| 14:21.09 | Ashe`` | as i said, i never did something with Ace2 |
| 14:21.13 | Xinhuan | you manually get a copy of LibStub.lua |
| 14:21.17 | Xinhuan | and put it in your addon |
| 14:21.21 | Xinhuan | and load it as the first file in the TOC |
| 14:21.23 | Ashe`` | ok, so I just reference LibStub.lua in the toc |
| 14:21.24 | Xinhuan | then load LHC3 |
| 14:21.29 | Ashe`` | and that's all |
| 14:21.32 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 14:21.50 | Xinhuan | the general loading order of TOC is |
| 14:21.57 | Ashe`` | and I add LibHealComm3.0 not in the addons\myaddon folder but directly in the addons folder? |
| 14:22.01 | Xinhuan | 1. Load libraries 2. load localization files for your add 3. load your addon files |
| 14:22.14 | Xinhuan | it doesn't matter where the file is |
| 14:22.22 | Elsia | hmm so is anyone gonna write a 2.4->Parser-3.0/Parserlib-1.1 compat lib? |
| 14:22.25 | Xinhuan | you can throw it in myaddon\abc\def\lhc.lua |
| 14:22.27 | Xinhuan | and nobody will care |
| 14:22.34 | Xinhuan | as long as the filename is correct |
| 14:22.39 | Xinhuan | and the path is correct |
| 14:22.50 | Xinhuan | the "standard" is to have a libs\ folder |
| 14:23.08 | Xinhuan | so myaddon\libs\LibHealComm-3.0\LibHealComm-3.0.lua |
| 14:23.23 | Xinhuan | so myaddon\libs\LibStub\LibStub.lua |
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| 14:23.26 | Ashe`` | ok now I have LibStub.lua added in the myaddon.toc and I'm doing |
| 14:23.26 | Ashe`` | local HealComm = LibStub:GetLibrary("LibHealComm-3.0"); |
| 14:23.37 | Xinhuan | yes that is correct |
| 14:23.45 | Xinhuan | TOC order: 1. Load libraries 2. load localization files for your add 3. load your addon files |
| 14:23.58 | Ashe`` | yep, did that |
| 14:24.05 | Xinhuan | and libraries must load in dependency order |
| 14:24.06 | Ashe`` | its the first Lib that's loaded |
| 14:24.10 | Xinhuan | i.e libstub -> lhc |
| 14:24.25 | Ashe`` | ah |
| 14:24.29 | Ashe`` | ok wait |
| 14:24.48 | Ashe`` | currently, LibHealComm3.0 is in Addons\LibHealComm3.0 |
| 14:24.52 | Ashe`` | and not referenced in my toc |
| 14:25.12 | Xinhuan | then your ## OptionalDeps: LibHealComm-3.0 |
| 14:25.18 | Xinhuan | that is if the library is disembedded |
| 14:25.20 | Ashe`` | aaah |
| 14:25.35 | Xinhuan | libraries can be embedded, or disembedded |
| 14:25.43 | Xinhuan | when disembedded into its own addon, you make it load first via optdep |
| 14:25.52 | Xinhuan | if its embedded in your addon, you make it load via toc |
| 14:25.52 | Ashe`` | ok, and let's assume I want it embedded |
| 14:26.10 | Ashe`` | since else i would have to distribute 2 folders |
| 14:26.19 | Ashe`` | ok ## OptionalDeps: LibHealComm-3.0 worked |
| 14:26.29 | Xinhuan | because you can't assume which the user uses, you optdep it and load the files as though it is embedded |
| 14:26.40 | Xinhuan | so if the user disembeds it, nothing bad happens |
| 14:26.55 | Ashe`` | i see |
| 14:26.56 | Xinhuan | the toc just tries to load stuff in the libs\ folder that doesn't exist since the user disembedded it |
| 14:27.18 | Ashe`` | well i want the addon to always use LibHealComm3 |
| 14:27.27 | Xinhuan | yeah that's fine |
| 14:27.32 | Ashe`` | specifically I want HealBot Continued to use LibHealComm3.0 |
| 14:27.38 | Xinhuan | for the most part, most ppl don't disembed |
| 14:27.45 | Ashe`` | Ok |
| 14:27.45 | Xinhuan | only the ppl that know what they are doing, do |
| 14:27.49 | Elsia | hmm guess there won't be a parser-5.0 then ;) |
| 14:28.09 | Xinhuan | elsia |
| 14:28.15 | Xinhuan | there won't be a parser 5.0 |
| 14:28.25 | Xinhuan | because the combat log in 2.4 is no longer locale dependant |
| 14:28.34 | Fisker- | Anyone know an alternative to DoTimer that's not ClassTimer? :P |
| 14:28.44 | Elsia | what about trying to allow back-compat? |
| 14:28.49 | Ashe`` | Healbot Continued is not an Ace2 addon anyway, so most people will just download the zip and put it in their Addon folder and leave it like it is |
| 14:28.50 | Xinhuan | why even bother? |
| 14:29.00 | Xinhuan | you no longer need to do string searching/matching |
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| 14:29.15 | Elsia | not the point |
| 14:29.15 | Xinhuan | the combat log tells you exactly what happened in variables give straight to you |
| 14:29.31 | Elsia | instead of porting 100 combatlog addons you write one parser compat layer |
| 14:29.36 | Ashe`` | so, if i want LibHealComm3 embedded, I put it in Myaddon\Libs\LibHealComm3.0 and reference what exactly in my toc? |
| 14:29.40 | Elsia | both return parsed strings |
| 14:29.48 | Xinhuan | i would rather rewrite and go straight for efficiency |
| 14:29.54 | Xinhuan | compat layers slow things down |
| 14:29.58 | Xinhuan | and makes debugging difficult |
| 14:30.04 | Elsia | that's fine, but let addon authors choose |
| 14:30.21 | Elsia | maybe I'll have to write that darn library :/ |
| 14:30.45 | Xinhuan | i firmly believe all combat log addons should be rewritten to take advantage of the new system anyway |
| 14:31.15 | Elsia | I think you are not wrong, but also not right ;) |
| 14:31.18 | Xinhuan | i also suggest rewriting recount from scratch, modularising things |
| 14:31.46 | Xinhuan | a lot of new things it tracks like network traffic, buff uptime, etc, can all be moved to LoD modules |
| 14:31.57 | Elsia | yeah, I doubt I'll modularise though |
| 14:32.21 | Xinhuan | if i'm a user and i don't care for recording those data, recount still records them anyway |
| 14:32.24 | Elsia | the 2.4 changes aren't that massive for recount actually as far as I can tell so far |
| 14:32.32 | Elsia | i know |
| 14:33.08 | Xinhuan | consider ace3 as well |
| 14:33.18 | Xinhuan | its cleaner and has a better config dialog |
| 14:33.22 | Elsia | yep that one I'm more seriously considering |
| 14:33.32 | Xinhuan | you've tried any ace3 mods yet? |
| 14:33.36 | Elsia | not yet |
| 14:33.54 | Xinhuan | gonna sell out Mapster + GatherMate + Routes to you ;p |
| 14:34.32 | Elsia | I wanted to try that but no time yet |
| 14:34.47 | Ashe`` | Xinhuan: you have been a big help. |
| 14:34.49 | Ashe`` | Thank you :) |
| 14:34.58 | Xinhuan | np |
| 14:35.10 | Ashe`` | It works with the library embedded |
| 14:35.21 | Elsia | anyway the main reason why I'm not all gungho about modularizing is simply because that'll actually mean a complete rewrite of recount, whereas 2.4 parsing is just fixing up tracker.lua a bit... which isn't that bad |
| 14:35.31 | Elsia | and frankly I simply don't have the time for a full recount rewrite ;) |
| 14:35.35 | Ashe`` | I have another question though :/ |
| 14:35.55 | Ashe`` | if I register the callback with HealComm.RegisterCallback( self, "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 14:35.56 | Xinhuan | well you see, recount has grown a lot, and its growth is added a bit at a time |
| 14:36.06 | Xinhuan | there are ppl who would consider recount "bloated" |
| 14:36.12 | Xinhuan | because of all these additions |
| 14:36.15 | Elsia | am not worried about that |
| 14:36.23 | Ashe`` | I can't use MyAddon:HealComm_DirectHealStart since the addon isn't ace2 and there is no reference to MyAddon |
| 14:36.25 | Elsia | recount was way bloated before I added anything |
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| 14:36.39 | Elsia | if you don't like bloat, don't use recount. |
| 14:36.47 | Xinhuan | Ashe``, that's why you use a new table ;p |
| 14:36.50 | Fisker- | Anyone know an alternative to DoTimer that's not ClassTimer? :P |
| 14:36.51 | Fisker- | zomg |
| 14:36.55 | Xinhuan | LHC:embed(mytable) |
| 14:37.04 | Xinhuan | then mytable:HealComm_DirectHealStart() |
| 14:37.27 | Xinhuan | basically, ace2/ace3/rock addons use a table as the addon object |
| 14:37.36 | Elsia | it's also subjective, in terms of code volume I dare wager I added less than 1% of actual code size since I added things. |
| 14:37.44 | Xinhuan | since your addon isn't in a framework, its unlikely you used a table as well |
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| 14:37.48 | Xinhuan | so you just make a new one |
| 14:37.55 | Ashe`` | ! |
| 14:38.04 | Xinhuan | and that table will be your so-called addon object |
| 14:38.15 | Ashe`` | so I would do |
| 14:38.19 | Xinhuan | you add functions to this table like that |
| 14:38.28 | Ashe`` | local HealComm = LibStub:GetLibrary("LibHealComm-3.0"); |
| 14:38.36 | Ashe`` | HealComm:embed(mytable) |
| 14:38.37 | DrWily | is there a mod or way to allow you to control your character from the front with mouse look, so just a 180 degree reversal of the control scheme that exists now |
| 14:38.38 | Xinhuan | function mytable:dostuff() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("dostuff") end |
| 14:38.45 | Ashe`` | HealComm.RegisterCallback( self, "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 14:38.46 | Xinhuan | then to call it, you can run mytable:dostuff() |
| 14:38.55 | Xinhuan | no no |
| 14:39.12 | Xinhuan | mytable:RegisterCallback("HealComm_DirectHealStart") |
| 14:39.22 | Ashe`` | without the self? |
| 14:39.26 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 14:39.33 | Xinhuan | it seems you are confused about when to use "self" |
| 14:39.45 | Xinhuan | HealComm.RegisterCallback( self, "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); is identical to HealComm:RegisterCallback("HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 14:39.47 | Ashe`` | that's true |
| 14:39.52 | Xinhuan | notice the difference between . and : |
| 14:40.08 | Ashe`` | lua has grown so much... |
| 14:40.18 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 14:40.19 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 14:40.25 | Xinhuan | i suggest you read i think its chapter 7 or something |
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| 14:40.29 | Xinhuan | of the PIL |
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| 14:40.35 | Xinhuan | about the . and : syntax |
| 14:40.39 | Ashe`` | or rather, people are using it in a different way than a few years ago |
| 14:40.46 | Ashe`` | is it like in C++? |
| 14:41.01 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 14:41.02 | Ashe`` | :: |
| 14:41.08 | syeren | Xinhuan make an addon :< |
| 14:41.10 | Xinhuan | well in C++, the "this" is implicity defined as the first argument when used in a :: syntax |
| 14:41.21 | Ashe`` | exactly |
| 14:41.28 | Xinhuan | in lua, when you use : syntax, the "self" variable is implicitly defined as the first arg |
| 14:41.30 | Xinhuan | same thing |
| 14:41.39 | Ashe`` | ok, then I get it :) |
| 14:41.45 | Xinhuan | you can interchange : and . |
| 14:41.49 | nevcairiel | except that a fucked-up call to that function could screw with your self |
| 14:41.52 | Xinhuan | as long as you know whether to pass the 1st arg or not |
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| 14:41.59 | Xinhuan | for eg |
| 14:42.07 | Xinhuan | HealComm.RegisterCallback(mytable, "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 14:42.10 | Xinhuan | is exactly the same as |
| 14:42.15 | Xinhuan | mytable:RegisterCallback("HealComm_DirectHealStart") |
| 14:42.21 | Xinhuan | assuming you embedded it |
| 14:42.43 | Xinhuan | because you are passing "mytable" to the "self" argument in the : declaration |
| 14:42.47 | Ashe`` | and by embedding you mean, i just reference it in the toc? |
| 14:43.00 | Xinhuan | by embedding i mean called :Embed9) |
| 14:43.01 | Xinhuan | () |
| 14:43.13 | Ashe`` | local HealComm = LibStub:GetLibrary("LibHealComm-3.0"); |
| 14:43.14 | Xinhuan | all embedding does is |
| 14:43.14 | Ashe`` | HealComm:embed( mytable ) |
| 14:43.20 | Ashe`` | mytable:RegisterCallback( "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 14:43.25 | Ashe`` | function mytable:HealComm_DirectHealStart() |
| 14:43.29 | Ashe`` | doesn't work though |
| 14:43.49 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure about whether that is the function healcomm will callback |
| 14:43.51 | Xinhuan | by default |
| 14:43.56 | Xinhuan | you have to read the documentation |
| 14:44.03 | Ashe`` | according to |
| 14:44.03 | Ashe`` | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibHealComm-3.0 |
| 14:44.04 | Ashe`` | yes |
| 14:44.05 | Xinhuan | maybe you have to provide a second arg for the function to call |
| 14:44.29 | Elkano | I think if a lib using CBH is ment for embedding, it should provide different names for the register/unregister functions |
| 14:45.03 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 14:45.07 | Xinhuan | because ace3 already uses those |
| 14:45.32 | Xinhuan | you better start reading the source code of LHC3 |
| 14:45.33 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 14:45.35 | Elkano | or rather it shouldn't embed these functions since they are used to register to the lib not the addon one embedded into |
| 14:45.40 | Elsia | talking ace2->ace3 what are the specifics to watch for, any good wiki yet? |
| 14:45.52 | Xinhuan | not really Elsia |
| 14:45.58 | Xinhuan | they are roughly the same in syntax |
| 14:46.16 | Elsia | is there a libstub babble yet? |
| 14:46.35 | Xinhuan | yes, but we avoid babble if possible, most babble libs are used by less than 3 addons on the whole wowace svn |
| 14:46.38 | Ashe`` | well it does self.Callbacks:Fire("HealComm_DirectHealStart", playerName, CastInfoHealingSize, CastInfoEndTime, unpack(CastInfoHealingTargetNames)); |
| 14:46.46 | Ashe`` | so function mytable:HealComm_DirectHealStart(event, healerName, healSize, endTime, ...) |
| 14:46.49 | Ashe`` | should be correct |
| 14:46.52 | Elsia | hmm why? |
| 14:46.53 | Xinhuan | and if a lib is not going to be used/shared by many addons, it shouldn't have been a lib at all in the first place |
| 14:47.08 | Xinhuan | because a lib is "generalized" to work for most situations |
| 14:47.15 | Elsia | the idea of having common translations only once is very good actually |
| 14:47.15 | Xinhuan | while if it was coded specific to your addon, it can be optimized |
| 14:47.22 | Stanzilla | Elsia: there a few babble libs that are libstubbed...Spell for example is one |
| 14:47.26 | Elsia | babble isn't specific ;) |
| 14:47.26 | Xinhuan | well do you care to check out Babble-Ore? |
| 14:47.30 | Xinhuan | exactly 2 addons use it |
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| 14:47.43 | Elsia | that's fine... all ore-translating addons should use it though |
| 14:47.49 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Mining, and Cartographer_Routes |
| 14:47.54 | Xinhuan | except there aren't any such addons |
| 14:47.55 | Elsia | the measure is not quantity but usefulness for the purpose |
| 14:48.07 | Elsia | so that's fine... should there be one they can use babble |
| 14:48.14 | Xinhuan | so the lib might as well not have existed, and cart_mining implemented less memory intensive and better implementations of the translation |
| 14:48.17 | Xinhuan | that used half as much ram |
| 14:48.32 | Elsia | how do other addons localize ore? |
| 14:48.32 | Xinhuan | there is a fine line between libifying everything, just because you can |
| 14:49.04 | Xinhuan | they don't? because no addon needs such translations |
| 14:49.08 | Xinhuan | apart from carto_mining |
| 14:49.35 | Xinhuan | if you say gatherer, then it has its own translations -- but you will never run both gatherer/carto_mining at the same time together |
| 14:49.46 | Xinhuan | so the chances of them both being loaded at the same time sharing the translation table is 0 |
| 14:49.48 | CIA-10 | 03merl 07Modules * r60553 10mHud/ (ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua EnergyTicker/EnergyTicker.lua): mHud: Minor bug fixes + some changes to energy/combopoints |
| 14:50.04 | Xinhuan | see what i mean? |
| 14:50.08 | Elsia | was is the libstub overhead? |
| 14:50.14 | Xinhuan | about 20 lines of code |
| 14:50.19 | Xinhuan | or 2 kb of ram in game |
| 14:50.49 | haste | now let's compare it to something! |
| 14:50.49 | Elsia | basically after 3 addons it's clearly amortized... but I don't think this way |
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| 14:51.15 | Xinhuan | yes, but if the lib is never going to be shared, then its not worth libifying it |
| 14:51.15 | Ashe`` | um |
| 14:51.20 | Ashe`` | is it :embed |
| 14:51.22 | Ashe`` | or :Embed? |
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| 14:51.28 | Xinhuan | i gave the example of gatherer/carto/gathermate |
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| 14:51.38 | Xinhuan | all 3 do the same thing - find nodes, and save them |
| 14:51.50 | Elsia | I'm still curious, how does gathermate avoid localizing ores? |
| 14:51.58 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 14:52.05 | Xinhuan | it localizes them in its locale files |
| 14:52.10 | FtH|Daemona | it doesnt avoid, it just uses its own files |
| 14:52.14 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 14:52.26 | Xinhuan | and because we localize them manually, it uses less overhead than a babble lib |
| 14:52.29 | FtH|Daemona | because as xin mentioned, its not worth using a lib ;) |
| 14:52.35 | Elsia | i understand that... so basically we use man hours to localize many similar files to avoid 2k of lib mem? |
| 14:52.43 | Ashe`` | I'm doing |
| 14:52.43 | Ashe`` | local HealComm = LibStub:GetLibrary("LibHealComm-3.0"); |
| 14:52.43 | Ashe`` | local mytable = {} |
| 14:52.45 | Xinhuan | and that is fine, because no user would ever run more than 1 copy of a "gathermate-type" addon |
| 14:52.48 | Ashe`` | HealComm:Embed( mytable ) |
| 14:52.48 | Ashe`` | mytable:RegisterCallback( "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 14:52.55 | Xinhuan | to require libifying it |
| 14:53.09 | Elsia | I think it's an extreme position but it's fine... |
| 14:53.11 | Ashe`` | but apparently I'm either to ignorant or stupid, but it does nothing |
| 14:53.25 | Xinhuan | did the command work? |
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| 14:53.31 | FtH|Daemona | the question is, is it worth libifying it to safe development time, because someone like Xinhuan decides to make gathermate because he thinks it will be better than cartographer |
| 14:53.34 | Elsia | basically a lib is a clean centralized solution to localizing something that everybody will want localized the same way |
| 14:53.34 | Xinhuan | you can do a pairs() loop over mytable |
| 14:53.38 | Xinhuan | and print all the keys |
| 14:53.39 | Ashe`` | there is no error |
| 14:53.43 | Elsia | and we go into anxiety disorder over 2k mem |
| 14:53.47 | Ashe`` | but the addon doesn't load |
| 14:53.48 | FtH|Daemona | and could save time using a lib instead of doing translation tables himself ;) |
| 14:53.55 | Xinhuan | not sure then Ashe`` |
| 14:54.23 | Ashe`` | specifically if I JUST do HealComm:Embed( mytable ) |
| 14:54.30 | Ashe`` | the addon doesnt load anymore |
| 14:54.32 | Elsia | I have made everything in recount that is babble-able babble. Because I find it silly to waste anybodies time to localize it again, and recount runs at megabytes of mem use so what's 8k |
| 14:54.41 | Xinhuan | so there is an error Ashe``? |
| 14:54.45 | Xinhuan | are you hiding lua errors? |
| 14:54.47 | Ashe`` | no lua error |
| 14:54.48 | Ashe`` | no |
| 14:55.16 | Elsia | so basically the message is I have to libstub myself all the former ace2 libs I want because generic principles are trumped by minimialist considerations? |
| 14:55.35 | Xinhuan | you still can use ace2 libs in an ace3 addon? |
| 14:55.56 | Elsia | I will want to use some babble-things that aren't libstubbed yet... |
| 14:56.05 | Xinhuan | but anyway, if you really care, go look at LibBabbleZone-3.0 |
| 14:56.09 | Xinhuan | at the top of the file |
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| 14:56.17 | Xinhuan | is a cut-n-paste framework |
| 14:56.20 | Xinhuan | for libbabble |
| 14:56.27 | Elsia | Boss, Class. Race. Spell.. |
| 14:56.31 | Xinhuan | that should exist at the top of every libstubbed libbabble lib |
| 14:56.39 | Xinhuan | so just cut and paste that section |
| 14:56.43 | Xinhuan | and convert the remainder yourself |
| 14:56.46 | kagaro | when you only need 25% of the translations why incurr the overhead to add all the other translations you didt need? |
| 14:57.03 | Xinhuan | the reason why nobody has converted the rest, like Race, Ore, Herb, etc is because few addon uses them |
| 14:57.36 | Xinhuan | Babble-FIsh, for eg, has translations for every fish, every fishing node name, and every quest fish, and every fishing rod i think |
| 14:57.42 | kagaro | And if you wana point a finger to how the ore/herbs were etup in GatherMate .. point it at me |
| 14:57.46 | Xinhuan | and gatherer/gathermate, only needs the fishing nodes name |
| 14:57.49 | [Ammo] | specially for rod's its bullshit |
| 14:57.52 | [Ammo] | you can use itemid |
| 14:57.53 | Xinhuan | don't need the rest |
| 14:58.35 | Xinhuan | if your addon is going to use spells |
| 14:58.48 | Xinhuan | and your addon is specifically for use with say pally blessing buffs |
| 14:58.50 | Xinhuan | (say pally power) |
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| 14:58.55 | kagaro | Its the same reason GatherMate: doesnt use Babble-Spell .. I only need 5 spell names of rit |
| 14:58.57 | Xinhuan | would you use LibBabble-Spell-3.0? |
| 14:59.12 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't, because LibBabble-Spell-3.0 contains 460kb of translations |
| 14:59.18 | Xinhuan | and you only need the 8 pally buffs translated |
| 14:59.20 | kagaro | exactly |
| 14:59.27 | Xinhuan | so you copy them out |
| 14:59.35 | Xinhuan | into your own table |
| 14:59.36 | chexsum | saves effort |
| 14:59.45 | Elsia | I think there are good points here, but really goes many ways |
| 14:59.58 | Elsia | see I need translations of all class names, using babble-class is a no-brainer |
| 15:00.03 | Xinhuan | yeah i suppose, but there's no need to include the other 1200 spells if you only need 8 of it |
| 15:00.08 | Xinhuan | there's pros and cons |
| 15:00.19 | Elsia | if babble-fish is well setup is a good point, but that doesn't mean that a generic fish-translation lib can't be useful |
| 15:00.27 | chexsum | localization should be load on demand |
| 15:00.31 | Xinhuan | if you use Fisheye to search |
| 15:00.37 | [Ammo] | what would be best |
| 15:00.37 | nevcairiel | why dont you work with the second return value of UnitClass() ? |
| 15:00.40 | Xinhuan | you will find that exactly 2 addons use it |
| 15:00.42 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 15:00.42 | nevcairiel | its always english :P |
| 15:00.44 | [Ammo] | is a webapplication |
| 15:00.46 | [Ammo] | on wowace.com |
| 15:00.54 | [Ammo] | that allows you to select translations you want |
| 15:00.57 | Xinhuan | i think its a waste |
| 15:00.57 | [Ammo] | and gives you a table |
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| 15:01.10 | [Ammo] | and also, gives people the opportunity to edit |
| 15:01.19 | [Ammo] | (with proper restrictions and versioning and crap) |
| 15:01.19 | Xinhuan | if you go look at Babble-Gas-2.0 <-- there are exactly 4 lines of translations in it |
| 15:01.20 | Ashe`` | and if i don't embed it and reference it with OptDeps |
| 15:01.20 | Xinhuan | FOUR |
| 15:01.23 | Xinhuan | why even bother? |
| 15:01.24 | Xinhuan | fuck |
| 15:01.27 | Ashe`` | then i would do |
| 15:01.27 | Ashe`` | HealComm.RegisterCallback(self, "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 15:01.33 | Xinhuan | because there's only 4 types of gas |
| 15:01.48 | Ashe`` | but how would i call the function then? |
| 15:01.52 | Elsia | the simple answer: not everybody is a minimalist. I don't care about 2k, or 4k. |
| 15:02.14 | [Ammo] | I care about 400k |
| 15:02.20 | Elsia | if using babble-gas means I automatically have ready to go localization and one point where fixes will be made, great! |
| 15:02.26 | chexsum | 10M wouldnt bother me as long as it was sharable data |
| 15:02.27 | Xinhuan | well, i'm trying to impart programming values, so take it with a grain of salt if you don't care :) |
| 15:02.36 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:02.41 | chexsum | information is good |
| 15:02.43 | Ashe`` | function MyAddon:HealComm_DirectHealStart(event, healerName, healSize, endTime, ...) |
| 15:02.47 | Ashe`` | doesnt work of course |
| 15:02.52 | Ashe`` | since there is nothing like MyAddon |
| 15:02.59 | [Ammo] | Ashe``: what are you rambling on about |
| 15:02.59 | Xinhuan | Ashe``, can't help you there |
| 15:03.03 | Ashe`` | ok |
| 15:03.06 | Elsia | programming values are part of philosophy... generic use is a programming value as much as is avoiding overhead |
| 15:03.07 | Ashe`` | Thanks anyway :) |
| 15:03.09 | [Ammo] | give pastey of your code and what is not working |
| 15:03.23 | [Ammo] | instead of rambling random lines through another conversation :) |
| 15:03.33 | chexsum | the localizer should be responsible for keeping memory down not the addons |
| 15:03.51 | chexsum | if its not then its not the addon programmers fault |
| 15:03.55 | Ashe`` | <@[Ammo]>: i don't get LibHealComm3.0 to work in a non-ace2 addon |
| 15:04.08 | [Ammo] | show your code |
| 15:04.08 | Xinhuan | as an addon author i care that every part of the addon used is efficient |
| 15:04.25 | Xinhuan | that includes the libraries that it uses, even though the code isn't yours |
| 15:04.55 | chexsum | rewrite ace localizer if the memory it wastes bothers you |
| 15:05.21 | Xinhuan | it has been rewritten, ace3's uses half as much ram by using only 1 table instead of 2 |
| 15:05.22 | [Ammo] | it's the amoutn of extra translations you get |
| 15:05.32 | [Ammo] | and it's not ace3's |
| 15:05.33 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 15:05.34 | [Ammo] | but yeah |
| 15:05.35 | [Ammo] | bah |
| 15:05.38 | chexsum | they shouldnt be loaded if theyre not needed |
| 15:05.38 | [Ammo] | Ashe``: giev pastey |
| 15:05.46 | syeren | [Ammo], I have a request :p |
| 15:05.55 | syeren | I think you wrote WitchHunter right? |
| 15:05.59 | syeren | *WitchHunt |
| 15:06.00 | [Ammo] | I wrote WitchHunt |
| 15:06.09 | syeren | Could you possibly make an option to make it display like... |
| 15:06.13 | syeren | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8104/mplayerc200802062104270gc2.jpg |
| 15:06.13 | Ashe`` | i reference it with ## OptionalDeps: LibHealComm-3.0 |
| 15:06.14 | Kazie | Question.. i have a macro that casts Hunter's Mark og /petattack, is it possible to make it so it casts those 2 + waits 3.5 seconds and then cast autoattack? |
| 15:06.15 | Ashe`` | then i do |
| 15:06.15 | Ashe`` | local HealComm = LibStub:GetLibrary("LibHealComm-3.0"); |
| 15:06.20 | Ashe`` | HealComm.RegisterCallback(self, "HealComm_DirectHealStart"); |
| 15:06.22 | [Ammo] | Ashe``: ace.pastey.net |
| 15:06.26 | Ashe`` | ok |
| 15:06.29 | syeren | If you was to make it display like that [Ammo], it would be awesome ;p |
| 15:06.30 | [Ammo] | all the code |
| 15:06.33 | Ashe`` | the whole thing? |
| 15:06.34 | Xinhuan | Ashe``, "self" refers to what? |
| 15:06.45 | Chompers | Kazie: no |
| 15:06.46 | Xinhuan | what exactly is the "self" variable you are using in that line? |
| 15:06.47 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: wait till pastey |
| 15:06.50 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 15:07.03 | [Ammo] | syeren: I can't do it like that |
| 15:07.06 | Kazie | Chompers: Not even if you make it as a script ? :O |
| 15:07.07 | syeren | :< |
| 15:07.09 | syeren | How come? |
| 15:07.09 | [Ammo] | syeren: but I will rewrite WitchHunt for 2.4 combatlog |
| 15:07.11 | [Ammo] | maybe then |
| 15:07.12 | Ashe`` | forget it, i guess i should read a good book first |
| 15:07.15 | syeren | Oki. |
| 15:07.20 | [Ammo] | Ashe``: just pastey your code |
| 15:07.22 | syeren | Well that SpellAlert is the best I have seen. |
| 15:07.22 | Elsia | well localization is a weird thing, tbh I wished blizz had made most of the API locale-blind and only require localization for any text you want to put up, (i.e. combat log locale blind...) but it's not the situation we have |
| 15:07.23 | [Ammo] | and we'll comment |
| 15:07.24 | chexsum | the icons are part of parrot |
| 15:07.31 | Chompers | logic like that isnt allowed in macros |
| 15:07.32 | syeren | Even if everything sucked about it, it does it's job the best. |
| 15:07.39 | Xinhuan | in 2.4, the combat log is locale blind |
| 15:07.48 | Elsia | that's how it should be |
| 15:07.49 | chexsum | syeren combatalert is similar to witchhunt |
| 15:07.53 | FtH|Daemona | havent looked into detail but in ... xin beat me to it. |
| 15:07.59 | Elsia | if I can dump babble-spell I will :D |
| 15:08.06 | chexsum | it doesnt do icons though |
| 15:08.13 | [Ammo] | there will be a new witchhunt at 2.4 |
| 15:08.15 | [Ammo] | until then no |
| 15:08.31 | Xinhuan | there is a way such that Babble-Zone isn't required in any addon at all |
| 15:08.40 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: incorrect |
| 15:08.46 | Xinhuan | well almost |
| 15:08.47 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: well partly correct |
| 15:09.03 | [Ammo] | you can't get instance mapid's :) |
| 15:09.04 | nevcairiel | for instances you still need it |
| 15:09.08 | nevcairiel | damn you ammo |
| 15:09.09 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:09.11 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:09.11 | Xinhuan | yes ammo |
| 15:09.15 | Xinhuan | that was my thought ;p |
| 15:09.49 | [Ammo] | and the new AddonLoader uses it optionally if you want to use zonechecks |
| 15:10.06 | [Ammo] | I'll hopefully get some work done on it tonight |
| 15:10.09 | [Ammo] | fix up the overrides |
| 15:10.12 | Xinhuan | wait, addon loader uses babble? |
| 15:10.15 | Xinhuan | zone? |
| 15:10.17 | [Ammo] | optionally atm |
| 15:10.18 | Xinhuan | or did you mean mapfiles |
| 15:10.23 | [Ammo] | no babble |
| 15:10.31 | [Ammo] | so you can do: X-LoadOn-Zone: Ironforge |
| 15:10.37 | Xinhuan | are you fixing up the one in gcode |
| 15:10.37 | [Ammo] | and it'll work in deDE as well |
| 15:10.39 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:10.44 | Xinhuan | ^_^ |
| 15:10.45 | [Ammo] | gcode one uses 3.0 optionally |
| 15:10.51 | [Ammo] | (I wrote most of the gcode one) |
| 15:11.03 | Elsia | hehe I just had a weird thought. write a script finding redundant locale strings. if it's enough to outdo the overhead it should be a lib. Kind of non-structured approach to lib writing. or just a global table anyways. |
| 15:11.15 | Xinhuan | Elsia, feel free to port the existing babble libs to libstub, nobody will stop you hehe |
| 15:11.34 | Xinhuan | its just that Boss and Zone are the 2 most used ones, so they got ported |
| 15:11.34 | [Ammo] | I need to figure out which of my silly addons keeps enabling babble-ore |
| 15:11.35 | Xinhuan | nobody else bothered with the rest |
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| 15:11.41 | Xinhuan | Boss, Zone and Spell that is |
| 15:11.42 | chexsum | and spell |
| 15:11.48 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: i turned that hit off in AceLibrary =P |
| 15:11.59 | nevcairiel | s/hit/shit/ |
| 15:12.00 | Elsia | need class i fear |
| 15:12.01 | [Ammo] | well I disabled all my libs toggled the flag in acelib |
| 15:12.09 | [Ammo] | (because I had it off as well |
| 15:12.15 | [Ammo] | and something needs ore |
| 15:12.18 | Xinhuan | just grep Babble-Ore ? |
| 15:12.19 | Elsia | and race |
| 15:12.35 | Xinhuan | what do you need race for elsia? |
| 15:12.43 | Elsia | lemme check... cryect code |
| 15:12.53 | Xinhuan | is there.. race specific code in recount? |
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| 15:13.12 | [Ammo] | I want to see all damage done by trolls onto dwarves! |
| 15:13.30 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: babble-ore is only used by Cartographer,Talismonger, and Mendeleev |
| 15:13.37 | [Ammo] | ah mendeleev |
| 15:13.40 | [Ammo] | whyyyy |
| 15:13.41 | [Ammo] | whyyy |
| 15:13.43 | Xinhuan | yes, talismonger is only used by carto |
| 15:13.43 | Elsia | nah don't need it, boss and race are not used... just some dead code again ;) |
| 15:13.55 | [Ammo] | why does mendeleev use babbleore |
| 15:13.57 | Xinhuan | and that's why recount needs a rewrite :p |
| 15:14.03 | Elsia | see it's funny people may think I'm bloating cryect's code but I keep removing stuff that doesn't do much or anything |
| 15:14.11 | Xinhuan | lots of dead code everywhere |
| 15:14.26 | Elsia | it's not too bad tbh... the really bad part are libs/deps |
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| 15:14.49 | Elsia | and some unfinished code fragments that I either finish or ditch depending on use value |
| 15:14.51 | Xinhuan | i try to reduce and avoid using libs where possible generally |
| 15:14.53 | [Ammo] | mendeleev doesn't use it |
| 15:14.55 | [Ammo] | it just laods it! |
| 15:14.57 | [Ammo] | or does it |
| 15:14.58 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 15:14.59 | chexsum | half of wow.exe is probably dead code so i dont know why theres problems with addons |
| 15:15.00 | Elsia | i.e. most of the color code was in, I just needed to activate and polish it |
| 15:15.17 | [Ammo] | use it for the veins |
| 15:15.18 | [Ammo] | damn |
| 15:15.28 | Xinhuan | chexsum, its a programming value.. or is it virtue? |
| 15:15.38 | Xinhuan | just because it doesn't affect anything, doesn't mean it should exist |
| 15:16.02 | Shirik|AFK | I doubt that chexsum |
| 15:16.02 | Elsia | seriously though I do dig cryects code overall. |
| 15:16.13 | Shirik|AFK | good companies actually have processes to eliminate that |
| 15:16.15 | chexsum | i dont |
| 15:16.17 | Elsia | O |
| 15:16.23 | Xinhuan | how did babble race get in there anyhow |
| 15:16.32 | Xinhuan | i seriously don't see how a damage meter would need the race |
| 15:16.40 | Shirik|AFK | the FAA actually requires it for certification, though naturally Blizzard doesn't have to follow that requirement |
| 15:16.51 | Elsia | I'm sure if anybody stares you can find loads of issues with my code but I have a full-time job and hence no time to obsess over stylistic matters really :D |
| 15:17.08 | Elsia | nah race and boss will both go soon, maybe today... they are not used and hence shouldn't be embedded |
| 15:17.34 | Xinhuan | don't think i really care, i was just curious why one of my raid member's Recount reported that i did 314k damage over a ZA run's firt 4 bosses, but another make as 120k (about 1/3 of mine) |
| 15:17.37 | Elsia | using only babble-class (for the class color display) and spell, for old combat log parsing |
| 15:17.39 | Xinhuan | when all of us were present |
| 15:17.43 | Xinhuan | for all bosses |
| 15:17.52 | Xinhuan | another mage* |
| 15:18.19 | Xinhuan | that 314k should be 3.14 mil actually, and 1.2 mil |
| 15:18.23 | Elsia | well the old damage meter thing ;) |
| 15:18.37 | Xinhuan | he was the only person using recount i think |
| 15:18.45 | Xinhuan | just weird |
| 15:18.45 | Elsia | the real headache is post 2.4 syncing |
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| 15:19.10 | Elsia | recount only gets what the combat log gets if there is no syncing.. I'd be surprised if any other damage meter looks any better |
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| 15:19.36 | [Ammo] | Violation does pretty well and 95% of my raid uses it |
| 15:19.41 | Elsia | I really want to see some honest-to-good testing on combatlog range... I do doubt that 200 yards is faithful |
| 15:19.55 | syeren | This Combat Alert addon is strange. |
| 15:20.05 | syeren | I can't insert data into it, or list what it has. |
| 15:20.06 | chexsum | :) |
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| 15:20.17 | Elsia | but with 2.4 raid range indication it'll be easy to set up tests :D |
| 15:20.41 | Elsia | (who knows maybe they even changed the range code for the combatlog) |
| 15:21.23 | Elsia | my ideal would be if you could register for combat log events of raid members. would remove all syncing, even if people died/corpse run and such |
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| 15:22.22 | syeren | chexsum, do you have any idea how to make CombatAlert work? |
| 15:22.57 | kenlyric | ok, routes is amazing |
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| 15:24.03 | chexsum | the readme.txt has info :P |
| 15:24.11 | Elsia | ok back to basics what should I get to replace carto + carto_routes and test ace3 goodness? |
| 15:24.29 | nevcairiel | Mapster+GatherMate+Routes |
| 15:24.32 | Elsia | kk |
| 15:24.42 | Xinhuan | ^^ |
| 15:25.04 | syeren | Chexsum... /cal insert warn cast * player Mana Burn |
| 15:25.08 | syeren | I have it shown in Pitbull. |
| 15:25.11 | syeren | But it doesn't do anything. |
| 15:25.13 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: except no waypoints |
| 15:25.18 | kenlyric | needs waypoints, then I'll switch |
| 15:25.28 | nevcairiel | get tomtom |
| 15:25.33 | kenlyric | doesn't do waypoints |
| 15:25.39 | nevcairiel | sure it does |
| 15:25.41 | kenlyric | needs arrows |
| 15:25.49 | nevcairiel | tomtom svn does arrows! |
| 15:25.56 | cncfanatics | tomtom does arrows |
| 15:25.57 | kenlyric | trunk that shit |
| 15:25.58 | cncfanatics | at least mine does |
| 15:26.02 | Xinhuan | wall if you really care |
| 15:26.10 | Xinhuan | Routes (ace3) supports Cartographer_Waypoints |
| 15:26.19 | Xinhuan | so you can still use Cart + Routes + Gathermate |
| 15:26.32 | nevcairiel | or bug Xinhuan to make Routes support TomTOm |
| 15:26.32 | Elsia | is carto_waypoints standalone? |
| 15:26.38 | syeren | chexsum, if this is your addon I'm going to stab you. |
| 15:26.38 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 15:26.41 | Xinhuan | its dependant on carto |
| 15:26.44 | Elsia | bummers |
| 15:26.46 | chexsum | i might have broken it :x |
| 15:26.53 | Xinhuan | i'll add support for tomtom AFTER i finish up taboo regions |
| 15:27.05 | Xinhuan | its about like 70% done |
| 15:27.08 | chexsum | ive just been using preset mode |
| 15:27.11 | Elsia | waypoints is one of the best feature there is for me |
| 15:27.37 | Fisker- | btw [Ammo] |
| 15:27.37 | Xinhuan | you can get tomtom as a replacement |
| 15:27.40 | Fisker- | just to whine and moan |
| 15:27.43 | Xinhuan | its just that Routes doesn't support it yet |
| 15:27.47 | kenlyric | well, if the point of gathermate is a map independent gathering mod, then it doesn't have much appeal if I'm already using cart |
| 15:27.49 | Fisker- | why doesn't betterinbox automatically delete mails when they've been opened? |
| 15:27.50 | Xinhuan | until someone writes a module for it |
| 15:27.50 | CIA-10 | 03elsia * r60554 10Recount/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 15:27.50 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 15:27.50 | CIA-10 | - Removed embeds for Babble-Race and Babble-Boss as they weren't actually used. |
| 15:28.05 | kenlyric | Fisker-: it does if they don't have text |
| 15:28.06 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, the appeal is using half as much cpu/ram ;p |
| 15:28.14 | Fisker- | bah |
| 15:28.15 | Xinhuan | and it has neat features like |
| 15:28.23 | Xinhuan | different tracking color circles |
| 15:28.25 | Xinhuan | for each type of db |
| 15:28.30 | kenlyric | well, you should put that right in the description |
| 15:28.30 | Fisker- | had to delete like 40 mails from elder npc's |
| 15:28.31 | Xinhuan | and configurable distances for tracking |
| 15:28.36 | syeren | chexsum, whcih Frame does it appear in by default :p? |
| 15:28.37 | Elsia | i have to try tomtom again. way back when I didn't like it but it didn't have the arrow then just the minimap blip I don't want. |
| 15:28.38 | kenlyric | "not coded by retarded monkeys" |
| 15:28.46 | Xinhuan | and better importing management |
| 15:28.58 | Xinhuan | Cart_data simply overwrites your whole db |
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| 15:29.00 | Xinhuan | on every login |
| 15:29.04 | clad|office | well trunk has the arrow, but shouldn't really be used by anyone who isn't adventurous |
| 15:29.05 | Xinhuan | so all your new nodes are overwritten |
| 15:29.07 | Xinhuan | did you know that? |
| 15:29.08 | clad|office | since lots of shit doesn't work |
| 15:29.14 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: yes |
| 15:29.24 | kenlyric | I can't figure out why I'd care though. Shouldn't the data mod have them all? |
| 15:29.26 | Xinhuan | GatherMate importer doesn't do anything automatiaclly, and you can either choose to merge, or overwrite ;) |
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| 15:29.45 | Xinhuan | and the cleanup function has configurable distance range to cleanup |
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| 15:30.04 | Xinhuan | and you can toggle the "nodes on border of minimap" option |
| 15:30.13 | Xinhuan | and it has a Hud addon! |
| 15:30.19 | Xinhuan | similar to gatherer's |
| 15:30.20 | kenlyric | heh |
| 15:30.25 | kenlyric | I cried when I turned that on |
| 15:30.32 | kenlyric | and, not the good kind of tears either |
| 15:30.43 | Xinhuan | ours can draw like 500 nodes, easy, no fps issues |
| 15:30.49 | kenlyric | WHY ARE YOU SHOWING ME ORE?!!?!?! |
| 15:30.51 | Elsia | are there carto_questobjectives etc type replacements for mapster? |
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| 15:30.58 | Xinhuan | with correct z-depth too ;p |
| 15:31.03 | kenlyric | Elsia: lightheaded |
| 15:31.59 | Elsia | ken: not what I mean: I want to see location of past quest objective kills/drops on the map |
| 15:32.02 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: lightheaded is nothing like cartographer_questobjectives (I use both) |
| 15:32.08 | thul | hmm |
| 15:32.17 | thul | my wireless flash transmitter/receiver came today |
| 15:32.17 | thul | yeha |
| 15:32.23 | kenlyric | well, that's what I replaced it with |
| 15:32.26 | Pkekyo| | congrats thul |
| 15:33.00 | Pkekyo| | you don't have to stop using cartographer all together, just to use gatherhud...correct? |
| 15:33.19 | Pkekyo| | also, what's z-depth? |
| 15:33.40 | thul | thanks Pkekyo| |
| 15:35.12 | Elsia | what exactly does gathermate replace of the carto modules? |
| 15:35.43 | Pkekyo| | err....herbalism, mining, gas collection? |
| 15:36.00 | nevcairiel | and fishing |
| 15:36.03 | Xinhuan | herb, mine, fish, gas |
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| 15:36.05 | Pkekyo| | right |
| 15:36.05 | Xinhuan | (not treasure) |
| 15:36.18 | nevcairiel | only because Xinhuan didnt finish the treasure plugin yet |
| 15:36.20 | Pkekyo| | any specific reason why not, Xinhuan? |
| 15:36.24 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 15:36.24 | Xinhuan | what nev said |
| 15:36.26 | Elsia | k |
| 15:36.27 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:36.27 | kenlyric | I just found questobjectives to be a lot of bloat once I dediced how useful lightheaded was |
| 15:36.34 | kenlyric | *decided |
| 15:36.51 | Elsia | fishing? |
| 15:36.51 | Elsia | ah you said it |
| 15:36.52 | kenlyric | it'll point me at anything I want. |
| 15:37.11 | chexsum | syeren, one it makes |
| 15:37.19 | kenlyric | and tourguide generally points me in the right direction too |
| 15:37.28 | syeren | It hasn't made one Chexsum :( |
| 15:37.30 | kenlyric | stupid tin |
| 15:37.33 | Pkekyo| | correct me if wrong: gathermate is fully 'compatible' with cartographer? :) |
| 15:37.33 | kenlyric | need one skillpoint |
| 15:37.40 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:37.44 | Pkekyo| | rofl Elsia |
| 15:37.48 | Xinhuan | it works with any map addon, or the lack of one |
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| 15:38.06 | Pkekyo| | sweet, I'll be getting it then...how's the taboo stuff coming along? |
| 15:38.17 | Xinhuan | should be complete in a week |
| 15:38.32 | Xinhuan | i have the taboo region creation code working now |
| 15:38.42 | Xinhuan | and the config to attach it to a route working |
| 15:38.50 | Erica | Is there a problem with the new pet happen icon disappearing after a reload or is it just me? |
| 15:38.58 | Erica | happiness icon rather |
| 15:38.59 | Xinhuan | now i just need to write the actual code to, umm, make routes not go thru taboo regions if i can |
| 15:39.01 | Pkekyo| | wicked :) scream at me when you've fully implemented it, and I'll scrap my cartographer plugins :p |
| 15:39.39 | Erica | oh and in pitbull... sorry still trying to wake up :P |
| 15:39.54 | Elsia | only thing I still want from carto is questobjectives.. any replacement in the works? |
| 15:40.08 | Pkekyo| | nope |
| 15:40.33 | Pkekyo| | note to self: never put a scorching fucking hot knife on top of plastic |
| 15:40.43 | Erica | I bet it stinks too |
| 15:41.03 | kenlyric | stop playing with knives |
| 15:41.11 | kenlyric | this is the last time I will tell you |
| 15:41.12 | Pkekyo| | nah, I realized in time...will have to wash my knife again though |
| 15:41.17 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: and also the first :p |
| 15:41.32 | kenlyric | you were playing with knives last night too, young man! |
| 15:41.38 | kenlyric | I let the bleeding yell for me |
| 15:42.45 | Pkekyo| | now that both parts've been mentioned... survival tip: if bleeding like a motherfucker, heat up your knife as hot as you can and stick it on the wound :p |
| 15:42.59 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: also, it was this morning, not last night |
| 15:43.47 | kenlyric | http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:44.07 | Xinhuan | Elsia, try out mapster/gathermate/routes though |
| 15:44.24 | Xinhuan | if you still want cart-objectives back, then just turn off mapster for carto core |
| 15:45.02 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: I know UGT very well, it has no jurisdiction here though: none of us were specificly leaving at the time |
| 15:45.12 | kenlyric | as corollary, the last time one is on IRC before sleeping is always "yesterday" |
| 15:45.16 | Elsia | have to backup my questobjectives data to not lose it... |
| 15:45.25 | kenlyric | even if it was a week ago |
| 15:45.26 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: I haven't slept yet, hence, not yesterday! |
| 15:46.01 | Pkekyo| | Elsia: just use cartographer core + cartographer_questobjectives and gathermate + gatherhud....it's not that hard |
| 15:46.11 | Elsia | well I want to test mapster ;) |
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| 15:46.20 | Pkekyo| | well you're fucked then, simple as :p |
| 15:46.29 | kneeki | Hey all |
| 15:46.32 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 15:46.48 | Elsia | zipping wtf is always fun. |
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| 15:48.10 | kenlyric | wtf has too many files. stupid blizzard and/or mod writers |
| 15:48.24 | Shirik|AFK | it's also in the wrong place |
| 15:48.30 | Shirik|AFK | but not going to get very far trying to change that now |
| 15:48.34 | Pkekyo| | just go make some food or take a dump whilst zipping it :) |
| 15:49.01 | Elsia | what a dump |
| 15:49.15 | Elsia | alright, here goes nothing |
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| 15:50.04 | Shirik|AFK | 14(1011:4411:4014) 14(1115kenlyric14) as corollary, the last time one is on IRC before sleeping is always "yesterday" |
| 15:50.07 | Shirik|AFK | what's sleep? |
| 15:50.27 | kenlyric | afk for more than two hours |
| 15:50.35 | Shirik|AFK | ah |
| 15:50.46 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 15:50.49 | kenlyric | you must be some kind of demon |
| 15:50.55 | kenlyric | only demons can type while afk |
| 15:50.56 | Pkekyo| | so technically, I was sleeping whilst at school? |
| 15:51.10 | Shirik|AFK | kenlyric: My powers are beyond your wildest dreams |
| 15:51.13 | Pkekyo| | oh, nevermind....I was on irc at school too :p |
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| 15:51.31 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 15:51.40 | Xinhuan | wow booted me offline for being afk 30 min damn |
| 15:51.45 | kenlyric | I have this theory about the wtf folder that a mod shouldn't write an SV until i've actually changed a setting. |
| 15:51.48 | Xinhuan | i need another 15 hours to reach 500d /played |
| 15:52.07 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: get ForeverAfk :p |
| 15:52.08 | kenlyric | like windows programs of old |
| 15:52.19 | Camma | Xinhuan I'd like to have that kind of problems |
| 15:52.20 | Xinhuan | i have it installed, but don't really use it |
| 15:52.22 | Xinhuan | because i never afk |
| 15:52.37 | Shirik|AFK | so like, I just got my results from EE test, and there was this one question I took 3 pages to do, knew the entire time it COULDN'T be right. |
| 15:52.40 | Xinhuan | LifePercent says i have spent 42.6% of my life on wow since wow release |
| 15:52.48 | Shirik|AFK | Apparently I got it right.... the reallly... REALLY long way |
| 15:53.12 | Xinhuan | so after all that Shirik|AFK, nobody in the channel still knows what you're rambling about :) |
| 15:53.13 | Pkekyo| | Shirik|AFK: EE test? |
| 15:53.24 | kenlyric | I did the math once on it and it said I spent about 35% of my life in wow |
| 15:53.26 | Shirik|AFK | Xinhuan: Test, hard question, I got right. Me happy. |
| 15:53.39 | kenlyric | but I'm on 8 hours a day at work, where I spend about 35% of my life |
| 15:53.43 | Shirik|AFK | Pkekyo|: Electrical engineering |
| 15:53.50 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 15:53.52 | Pkekyo| | gz then |
| 15:53.53 | Pkekyo| | perv |
| 15:54.04 | Camma | All I think is need to change UI |
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| 15:57.16 | kneeki | Any ideas what events fire when zoning into arena which resets all cooldowns? I can't seem to find it |
| 15:57.57 | Xinhuan | no particular event |
| 15:58.04 | Xinhuan | zoning into an arena simply resets it all |
| 15:58.13 | kneeki | Ah |
| 15:58.27 | Xinhuan | all your buttons and cooldown addons should be using PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD as the cue for updating display |
| 15:58.29 | kneeki | So I should check what the zone name is, and just reset the cooldowns on my buttons then I supose |
| 15:58.33 | Xinhuan | that's when it updates |
| 15:58.36 | kneeki | Mhmm |
| 15:58.48 | Xinhuan | i doubt your buttons care what zone you are in |
| 15:58.51 | kneeki | It should? |
| 15:58.55 | Xinhuan | why would it? |
| 15:58.58 | kenlyric | is it indended that routes load for characters who don't have that profession? |
| 15:59.07 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, yes |
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| 15:59.25 | Xinhuan | because you can find herbs, etc, that gathermate/etc can record |
| 15:59.28 | Pkekyo| | why? :p |
| 15:59.38 | Xinhuan | and those in turn have callbacks that add/delete the revelant nodes in your existing routes |
| 15:59.43 | Pkekyo| | you can do that without having hte profession? |
| 15:59.44 | kneeki | So should I have SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN & PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD both trigger my spell update scrips? |
| 15:59.47 | kneeki | scripts* |
| 15:59.47 | Xinhuan | of course |
| 15:59.56 | Xinhuan | kneeki, yes |
| 16:00.06 | kneeki | Ah, well... I guess that'd fix my problem :) |
| 16:00.08 | kneeki | thanks |
| 16:00.21 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: how/why? :p |
| 16:00.33 | Xinhuan | player-entering-world is whenever you zone across into a new server |
| 16:00.44 | Xinhuan | so you always need to update the values |
| 16:00.50 | kenlyric | can you turn off updating in gathermate? |
| 16:01.02 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, no |
| 16:01.09 | Xinhuan | but you can turn off gathermate in the addon screen |
| 16:01.11 | kenlyric | I don't want it to "find" a new ore when I happen to stand five yards away from the previous note |
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| 16:01.25 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, you can go to the "cleanup" section in the config |
| 16:01.31 | Xinhuan | and set the radius/range |
| 16:01.40 | kenlyric | 5000 yards? |
| 16:01.41 | Xinhuan | where it adds a new node, rather than move an existing one |
| 16:01.53 | Xinhuan | well i allowed the slider to go from 1 to 30 i think |
| 16:01.55 | Xinhuan | default is 15 |
| 16:02.00 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: it uses routes, no? or a route equivalent? |
| 16:02.10 | Xinhuan | what do you mean Pkekyo|? |
| 16:02.10 | kenlyric | cart_professions must be much smaller |
| 16:02.27 | Xinhuan | its not ;p |
| 16:03.06 | Xinhuan | trust me |
| 16:03.06 | kenlyric | the distance |
| 16:03.06 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 16:03.06 | Elsia | alright mapster+gathermate+routes is fine by me... like the ace3config |
| 16:03.06 | Xinhuan | yes the default range is 10 yards in cart |
| 16:03.06 | kenlyric | it draws a new node if I stand on the opposite side of the node at max distance |
| 16:03.06 | Xinhuan | and that 10 yards is hardcoded in |
| 16:03.08 | Xinhuan | in Gathermate, you can configure it per db |
| 16:03.15 | kenlyric | and all I keep thing is "why the fuck would I want to learn new nodes?" |
| 16:03.16 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: does gatherhud use my cart_routes, or do I need to get some special olympics-version specificly made for gahtermate? |
| 16:03.17 | Elsia | only input for improvement right now: route generation, data should be sorted by resource type in the checkbox selection list |
| 16:03.17 | Xinhuan | Gas is at 50 yards i think |
| 16:03.32 | kenlyric | wowhead has all the nodes I'll ever need, and if it doesn't, when I find a new one it will upload. |
| 16:03.38 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|, gatherhud only works on Gathermate/Routes because that's all i have time to write support for |
| 16:03.58 | Elsia | i hope there is a questobjectives replacement then I have no issue using mapster |
| 16:04.31 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: so it's a gathermate plugin? |
| 16:04.35 | Elsia | and just a straight-up waypoint (not tomtom) would be neat too, don't need some of what tomtom does |
| 16:04.45 | Xinhuan | yes, but i'm considering converting GatherHud to be standalone and support any db |
| 16:04.59 | Pkekyo| | ok, that's what I needed to know |
| 16:04.59 | Xinhuan | the conversion is trivial |
| 16:04.59 | Josh_Borke | the part you don't need is coordinates, right elsia? |
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| 16:05.08 | Josh_Borke | what else does tomtom do besides coordinates and waypoints? |
| 16:05.17 | Elsia | I don't need coordinates and I don't need the minimap blimp |
| 16:05.29 | Josh_Borke | associated with a waypoint? |
| 16:05.29 | Elsia | I just want the arrow |
| 16:05.31 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, i think if you stand at max distance on opposite sides |
| 16:05.32 | kenlyric | Josh_Borke: it doesn't do profiles |
| 16:05.34 | Elsia | yes |
| 16:05.34 | Xinhuan | the range is 12 yards ;p |
| 16:05.46 | Xinhuan | don't quote me on that |
| 16:05.48 | Josh_Borke | well, it's a good thing tomtom doesn't have an arrow |
| 16:05.56 | Xinhuan | but i allowed it to be configurable anyway |
| 16:06.03 | deltron | Josh_Borke: it adds an arrow/location on the minimap |
| 16:06.17 | Elsia | ah then tomtom isn't what I want at all |
| 16:06.19 | Josh_Borke | deltron: which would be the minimap blip ;-) |
| 16:06.24 | Elsia | i want the waypoint arrow really |
| 16:06.29 | deltron | oh heh |
| 16:06.41 | deltron | I use tomtom/cart for the waypoint arrow |
| 16:06.52 | deltron | never really tried it without tomtom |
| 16:06.58 | deltron | and just clicking on stuff in lightheaded |
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| 16:07.00 | Xinhuan | the latest version of tomtom has crazyarrow in it |
| 16:07.01 | kenlyric | I found it easier to disable the coord in cart and simpleminimap than to disable it on all nine of my characters in tomtom |
| 16:07.03 | Xinhuan | on gcode |
| 16:07.05 | Xinhuan | on trunk |
| 16:07.10 | Xinhuan | but its not all that stable yet i think |
| 16:07.16 | [Ammo] | it is now |
| 16:07.16 | Elsia | alright looks like I'll go cart cart_questob cart_waypoint gathermate and routes, yay to framework proliferation :D |
| 16:07.20 | [Ammo] | at least it works without a hitch atm |
| 16:07.21 | Xinhuan | hence i put off supporting it for a while in Routes |
| 16:07.40 | Josh_Borke | Elsia: who cares about frameworks |
| 16:07.45 | kenlyric | i'll use bad addons for profile convenience |
| 16:07.53 | Josh_Borke | over-rated ;-P |
| 16:08.00 | nevcairiel | questobjectives is a stupid plugin imho |
| 16:08.04 | sb | Elsia: why no babble-boss in recount? ;) boss detection + save bossfight stats permanent - i really like that feature in assessment ;o |
| 16:08.06 | nevcairiel | just get lightheaded and tomtom |
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| 16:08.14 | Elsia | nah I think having one interface for config is nice... rock does that quite nicely by integrating ace2 legacy stuff actually |
| 16:08.30 | Elsia | sb: there is no such feature in recount yet |
| 16:08.32 | nevcairiel | except that the rock config screen is too weird to be good :P |
| 16:08.35 | Josh_Borke | sorry, i don't configure my addons a lot |
| 16:08.46 | Xinhuan | seen the FAQ sections yet Elsia? |
| 16:08.49 | Josh_Borke | so i don't think of things like that |
| 16:08.49 | sb | Elsia: i know :) |
| 16:08.50 | Elsia | i do like how ace3config uses the colorpicker |
| 16:09.02 | Elsia | FAQ of what? |
| 16:09.06 | Xinhuan | of routes |
| 16:09.09 | Xinhuan | and gathermate |
| 16:09.16 | nevcairiel | for some reason that rock thing never saved the "dont fade alpha" setting i set, and it really annoyed me when it faded out, so i never use it :P |
| 16:09.16 | Elsia | link me up scotty |
| 16:09.25 | Xinhuan | there's an entire FAQ section right in the /routes |
| 16:09.27 | Xinhuan | and /gathermate config |
| 16:09.29 | Elsia | ah |
| 16:09.34 | Xinhuan | the faq sections, as well as being able to put text descriptions everywhere |
| 16:09.40 | Xinhuan | is a key point to the config system |
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| 16:10.02 | Elsia | the config system is fine really, little retro-look but that's cool, skinnable I suppose |
| 16:10.18 | nevcairiel | we still hope that 2.4 will make all that obsolete |
| 16:10.29 | nevcairiel | i really wish blizzard doesnt screw up the options thing |
| 16:10.30 | Josh_Borke | here's to hoping it gets integrated in 2.4 |
| 16:10.34 | Xinhuan | unless slouken inherits the aceopt table format |
| 16:10.36 | Xinhuan | i highlydoubt it |
| 16:10.39 | Josh_Borke | whoa, whoa |
| 16:10.46 | Josh_Borke | they are creating an options framework? |
| 16:10.52 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: if its a cleanly defined API, we can build a options table around it |
| 16:10.53 | Josh_Borke | i thought they were just giving us space to put options... |
| 16:10.54 | kenlyric | default profile build in game, please. |
| 16:11.01 | Xinhuan | hey, slouken specifically mentioned nurfed combat log as a model for their 2.4 combat log |
| 16:11.07 | kenlyric | so I don't have to set chat windows individually |
| 16:11.08 | Josh_Borke | link to the post please |
| 16:11.15 | Elsia | sb: back to your question, when recount actually needs babble-boss it'll be added again |
| 16:11.17 | Xinhuan | there is no reason why slouken might not inherit the aceopt table format |
| 16:11.28 | nevcairiel | or the idea behind it, actually |
| 16:11.31 | Xinhuan | Josh_Borke - the "2.4 consolidated changes" tread sticky by iriel |
| 16:11.34 | Xinhuan | last 2 pages |
| 16:11.36 | sb | Elsia: okay ;) |
| 16:11.40 | Xinhuan | slouken did like 8 posts in a row |
| 16:11.43 | Xinhuan | on a single page |
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| 16:12.03 | Xinhuan | with examples, and stuff |
| 16:12.15 | kenlyric | Elsia: you work on recount? |
| 16:12.59 | xbeeps | hi, i'm an irc noob, please confirm you can read this... |
| 16:13.03 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 16:13.09 | kenlyric | unconfirmed |
| 16:13.24 | nevcairiel | "In the formatting section, you can read up on a quick demonstration of how to convert the combat log to a “Nurfed” style combat log." |
| 16:13.27 | Josh_Borke | Additionally, this new system will contain anarea for AddOn authors to present their own configuration options toplayers with a custom heading, subcategories, and frames. I'd like toencourage authors interested in utilizing these features to try the newsystem on the PTRs before Patch 2.4 is released. Basic details on howto use this system can be found in code comments inBlizzard_InterfaceUI.lua. |
| 16:13.27 | nevcairiel | thats all nurfed i found |
| 16:13.43 | CIA-10 | 03chexsum * r60555 10CombatAlert/ (CombatAlert.lua CombatAlert.toc): |
| 16:13.43 | CIA-10 | CombatAlert: |
| 16:13.43 | CIA-10 | - Fixed string search :x |
| 16:13.56 | Elsia | ken: some |
| 16:14.03 | Xinhuan | hmm isn't that a good indication that they took the nurfed combat log format into consideration? |
| 16:14.05 | Josh_Borke | to ME, that sounds like we will get functions that let us register the options |
| 16:14.38 | Xinhuan | meaning the 2.4 system can be made to look like nurfed combat log without requiring an extra addon |
| 16:14.42 | Xinhuan | and even more |
| 16:15.19 | nevcairiel | One of the major combat log formats we considered while redoing the combat log was the Nurfed Combat Log format. This combat log format was very concise, made heavy use of color-coding and was one of the final candidates for the combat log. We eventually axed it on the basis of being too overwhelming for new users. However, we left in all of the options to convert the current combat log into the Nurfed combat log. |
| 16:15.19 | nevcairiel | they did |
| 16:15.20 | nevcairiel | but didnt use it :D |
| 16:15.47 | kenlyric | Elsia: good, someone to complain to. Give recount profiles for the love of all that is good and decent in the world |
| 16:16.19 | nevcairiel | yeah you can turn verbose off, turn bracers around all units on |
| 16:16.19 | nevcairiel | that makes it alot like nurfed already |
| 16:16.25 | Elsia | ken: yeah db is messy right now, it has partial profiles for windowy stuff |
| 16:16.38 | Elsia | Ken: it's on my too long wishlist to fix |
| 16:17.53 | kenlyric | i think tourguide is the only mod where I absolutely don't find that I don't care about profiles, because it has exactly one option :) |
| 16:18.07 | kenlyric | errr -1 don't |
| 16:18.32 | Elsia | ken: I understand, I like solid db profiling myself |
| 16:18.46 | Josh_Borke | tourguide actually has 1 opiton |
| 16:18.51 | Josh_Borke | what about lightheaded? |
| 16:19.10 | kenlyric | maybe 0? i've never looked |
| 16:19.12 | Elsia | any of the crummy little addons that I have writen uses db in profile mode because it's the most flexible way of doing this |
| 16:19.46 | Elsia | from a user perspective |
| 16:20.15 | Elsia | trouble is, the moment I make the change some people will scream bloody murder because their settings are gone and they have to redo them :D |
| 16:20.26 | Elsia | well maybe I'll do a legacy reader :P |
| 16:20.32 | Xinhuan | gathermate and routes uses global settings, not profile settings, to save data |
| 16:20.33 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 16:20.50 | Xinhuan | only profile specific configs are in the profile section hehe |
| 16:20.54 | Fin | I wish I'd made AltNames use global settings, or at least server-wide |
| 16:20.56 | nevcairiel | GatherMate uses a simple table to save stuff |
| 16:20.59 | nevcairiel | its not even AceDB managed |
| 16:21.00 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: that's sensible |
| 16:21.04 | Fin | didn't even think about it at the time, ficko that I am |
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| 16:21.24 | kenlyric | you don't really need profiles provided it loads only the professions you have |
| 16:21.41 | Elsia | good question though: What kind of stuff is profile-worthy? window position? lock may want recount in different spot than warrior alt |
| 16:21.44 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: people asked for profiles on GatherMate so they could setup different node filters |
| 16:21.54 | what-K | hi all i look for an addon like damagemeters cann someone tell me o good one ? |
| 16:22.00 | sb | recount :p |
| 16:22.01 | kenlyric | see, something I didn't even think about |
| 16:22.10 | chexsum | window positions could be global too :P |
| 16:22.14 | kenlyric | which is why it should have them, for things you don't think about. |
| 16:22.15 | Elsia | recount, assessment, violation, recap, sw_stat |
| 16:22.18 | Fin | shouldn't be! |
| 16:22.23 | dylanm | Violation is the simplest one I know of. |
| 16:22.33 | kenlyric | Fin: SHOULD BE |
| 16:22.35 | Fin | window positions are all different on all my characters, they're important to keep seperate |
| 16:22.37 | Elsia | want straight up damage meter: violation |
| 16:22.46 | Elsia | want hyper configuratility: assessment |
| 16:22.46 | what-K | yes but with violation our mage have a dps at 2187 |
| 16:22.48 | kenlyric | Fin: then you just shouldn't use the default profile |
| 16:22.49 | chexsum | i like all my info to be in the same place on all characters |
| 16:22.54 | Elsia | want fancy diagrams and easy config: recount |
| 16:22.54 | what-K | that cant be :D |
| 16:23.01 | xbeeps | does anyone know what timezone ckknight is in, or when he might be on? |
| 16:23.02 | kenlyric | default profile is for people like me, who want everything the same |
| 16:23.03 | Elsia | want neatly organised views: recap |
| 16:23.11 | Elsia | want sw_stat: sw_stat |
| 16:23.15 | nevcairiel | want fancy diagrams and easy config without eating my comp away: not recount =P |
| 16:23.35 | nevcairiel | even the network syncing code in recount produces like 10x the traffic any other syncing addon does |
| 16:23.36 | Elsia | want massive bloat: recount :D |
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| 16:23.37 | kenlyric | not any combat log |
| 16:23.46 | chexsum | i think character profile data should be used for collected data |
| 16:23.56 | what-K | ok then i try recount |
| 16:23.59 | chexsum | not for program settings |
| 16:24.00 | Fin | kenlyric: I don't! :) |
| 16:24.05 | Elsia | want to kill your raid while syncing: recount |
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| 16:24.28 | Elsia | want to have huge db files: recount with all deletion options turned off |
| 16:24.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:24.42 | chexsum | recount warns me :( |
| 16:24.51 | sb | thats why i have 4gb memory :/ |
| 16:24.52 | chexsum | with 4g of ram it can do whatever |
| 16:24.54 | haste | Bruners: pong! |
| 16:25.09 | nevcairiel | there is a max size of sv files tho |
| 16:25.10 | kenlyric | errr |
| 16:25.24 | kenlyric | and of how much traffic you can send through the game |
| 16:25.41 | nevcairiel | i bet recount is constantly capping that |
| 16:25.49 | nevcairiel | AddonSpamFu shows it topping everything :D |
| 16:25.51 | kenlyric | I think i'd rather have threat update than my damagemeter :) |
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| 16:26.08 | kenlyric | though hopefully it has a low priority by default |
| 16:26.15 | kenlyric | or high... whichever makes it throttle first |
| 16:26.22 | nevcairiel | threat doesnt need much data really, thats quite nice |
| 16:26.22 | Elsia | best single feature to recount in the last 6 months: sync toggle by fin |
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| 16:26.30 | Bruners | haste: how can i get larger fontsize on fane? |
| 16:27.43 | Elsia | second best: make it default off :P |
| 16:29.21 | haste | Bruners: fontstring:SetFont(fontstring:GetFont(), size) will do the trick, not the best solution however |
| 16:29.22 | Chompers | Elsia: recounts sync data is...huge |
| 16:29.35 | Elsia | yeps, that's why most sane people would want it off ;) |
| 16:29.37 | Chompers | i never realised how bad it was till you enabled the traffic data option in recount |
| 16:29.46 | Elsia | cryect did |
| 16:29.53 | Chompers | its under '3t' right? |
| 16:29.55 | Elsia | enable it that is |
| 16:30.22 | Elsia | haven't had time to check, because I used addonspamfu and long knew that recount is massive comm traffic |
| 16:30.46 | Elsia | basically traffic data in recount is just addonspamfu built in to prove recounts own misery :D |
| 16:32.10 | Elsia | recount beats all other typical traffic combined by a factor of 10 in most situations I have seen. Also fairly spammy occasionally is auctioneer and jasonquest |
| 16:32.25 | Chompers | probably best to just turn it off and wait till 2.4? |
| 16:32.29 | Chompers | sync that is |
| 16:32.31 | ckknight | xbeeps: ping |
| 16:32.36 | Elsia | yes |
| 16:32.50 | thul | weheyo |
| 16:32.54 | Chompers | would it not be better to have 2 people sync in a raid? |
| 16:33.10 | Elsia | do you see DCs in raid? |
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| 16:33.17 | Chompers | or the moment you untick sinc, does it not recieve any data |
| 16:33.25 | Chompers | about 5 a raid |
| 16:33.38 | Elsia | unticking sync disables all sending and receiving |
| 16:33.48 | sag_ich_nicht | I have a bug to report concerning WoW under windows in OpenGL mode, it's not properly setting to fullscreen, causing always on top applications to still show. |
| 16:33.56 | Elsia | recount sync may be one of your prime reasons for dcs |
| 16:34.18 | Elsia | only if you don't see DCs very often do I suggest trying syncing 2 people. |
| 16:34.23 | Chompers | ill try making people disable it |
| 16:34.31 | sag_ich_nicht | someone care to post it in the bugreport forums for me please? :O |
| 16:34.32 | Elsia | good idea ;) |
| 16:34.34 | Chompers | have about 12 people with sync on :o |
| 16:34.50 | Elsia | way too much, that's massive traffic |
| 16:35.12 | Elsia | if you see DCs right after someone died, it's very likely recount, sync traffic due to changed combatlog readings |
| 16:36.24 | Chompers | would it effect threat data at all? |
| 16:36.40 | Elsia | threat is handled completely through threat-1.0 so no |
| 16:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 16:40.09 | sag_ich_nicht | shouldn't recount use ChatThrottleLib? |
| 16:40.17 | Elsia | on a side-note, 2.4 may make the whole syncing business worse... depending how the whole water elemental GUID thing turns out |
| 16:40.59 | Elsia | explain |
| 16:41.32 | Elsia | hmm yeah possibly |
| 16:42.25 | Elsia | hmm don't I get that automatically when using acecomm? |
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| 16:42.54 | Elsia | http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatThrottleLib |
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| 16:43.37 | Fin | I was actually asked to add that by Kalroth :) |
| 16:43.46 | Elsia | problem with DCs is inbound traffic not outbound though |
| 16:43.49 | Kalroth | About boobies? |
| 16:43.50 | Fin | all I did was check it worked and commit the change :) |
| 16:44.02 | Fin | [17:27:30] #wowace: <Elsia> best single feature to recount in the last 6 months: sync toggle by fin |
| 16:44.10 | Kalroth | :P |
| 16:44.13 | Elsia | ~hug fin |
| 16:44.13 | purl | ACTION hugs fin |
| 16:44.19 | chexsum | opengl is for linux :P |
| 16:44.41 | Elsia | ~stalk Kalroth |
| 16:44.42 | purl | ACTION furtively infiltrates Kalroth's shadows and when Kalroth is turned away jumps out to take a picture with his camera phone! |
| 16:44.57 | Kalroth | How does purl know I have a phone, stalker alert! |
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| 16:45.30 | Fin | +e |
| 16:46.05 | Elsia | people with weak uplink are the typical DCs so you can only use recount sync if all have stable uplinks, which is rare... you see who DCs as those with weakness in inbound traffic, which throttle does nothing about |
| 16:46.06 | chexsum | purl is everywhere |
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| 16:47.07 | chexsum | i only dc when im capped and capping doesnt limit upload |
| 16:47.30 | Elsia | ~hug purl |
| 16:47.31 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on purl and suddenly hugs purl tightly |
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| 16:48.32 | Elsia | anyway, I don't intend to touch syncing until after 2.4 and then maybe it'd be smart to do some more sane syncing approach than brute force |
| 16:48.48 | Elsia | like out-of-combat syncing or some such "lazy" sync things |
| 16:49.01 | chexsum | ptp sync! |
| 16:49.29 | Elsia | well if you can identify who actually needs sync that helps but what's a smart way to do that... |
| 16:49.48 | chexsum | do a round robin thing |
| 16:50.01 | Grum | <chexsum> opengl is for linux :P <-- LOL |
| 16:50.03 | chexsum | priests first! |
| 16:50.34 | Elsia | well I thought of periodic totals broadcasts, but there are the old issues of timer discrepancies of course |
| 16:50.56 | Grum | at least you dont have to worry about parsing anything |
| 16:51.11 | Elsia | and even if you find discrepancies and the intervals are long, you have a grep-like matching problem for gaps |
| 16:51.26 | Ellipsis | ~poke Elsia |
| 16:51.27 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Elsia, pokes Elsia repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 16:51.34 | Elsia | ~pat Ellipsis |
| 16:51.34 | purl | ACTION pats Ellipsis and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 16:52.03 | chexsum | if wow had irc channels syncing would be purls job |
| 16:52.15 | Elsia | ~sync purl |
| 16:52.25 | Elsia | purl doesn't sync |
| 16:54.37 | chexsum | wow is made by noobs for noobs :( |
| 16:55.35 | dylanm | Huh |
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| 17:05.41 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60556 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Cast.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix an issue with [CastTarget] |
| 17:07.57 | CIA-10 | 03peragor * r60557 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 17:07.57 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 17:07.57 | CIA-10 | - Changed the option text from "GridStatusPlus Advanced" to "Plus Advanced. It was too long. |
| 17:07.57 | CIA-10 | - Change max rank for "MaxColumns" from 1-16 to 1-17. 17 columns would be needed for 36 or more hunters/warlocks in a raid. Which would require 8 columns for players, 8 columns for pets, and 1 column for maintanks. |
| 17:07.57 | CIA-10 | - Reordered some of the layouts to be in line with the cores ordering. |
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| 17:18.11 | khangg | anyone have a screenshot they could show me of the new vertical pitbull? |
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| 17:27.14 | Chompers | where do i enable that? |
| 17:29.57 | chexsum | new ? *investigates* |
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| 17:30.55 | Erica | For Pitbull's vertical health and mana bars, is there a way to make the texts inside the bars go vertical as well? |
| 17:31.10 | dylanm | That'd be tough to accomplish. |
| 17:31.36 | Erica | was afraid of that |
| 17:32.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ~sync |
| 17:32.04 | purl | sync is probably done on an application level. What apps do you want to sync to on ibot's pc? |
| 17:32.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Elsia |
| 17:32.25 | purl | Elsia: Fail. |
| 17:32.28 | Erica | any ideas about how to position the text in a way that would save space and still look ok with the vertical bars? |
| 17:33.25 | dylanm | I mean I don't think there's anything in the API for rotations of FontStrings... you'd probably have to use textures and that'd be Discord levels of crazy. |
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| 17:33.54 | Erica | O.o |
| 17:34.42 | ulic | Discord levels of crazy, hehe, that's funny. |
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| 17:35.03 | Erica | I still can't figure out why the pet happiness icon keeps disappearing either... finally just did it with a custom text |
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| 17:35.33 | Erica | it would just be nice to be able to use it since it's there lol |
| 17:35.40 | khangg | Erica, any chance at a screenshot of your UFs? :) |
| 17:35.56 | Erica | sure... where would you like it posted? |
| 17:36.04 | chexsum | oh that sort of vertical |
| 17:36.39 | Erica | I'm not currently using vertical bars though since I can't get the text the way I want |
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| 17:40.48 | khangg | Eraos, ah |
| 17:40.54 | khangg | woops |
| 17:43.39 | khangg | to get the vertical pitbull unitframes do i gotta go into the lua thing and change horizontal to vertical? |
| 17:43.53 | Stanzilla | no |
| 17:44.00 | Stanzilla | pitbull supports vertical bars |
| 17:45.31 | khangg | okay |
| 17:45.35 | khangg | i'll try finding it :S |
| 17:46.09 | Ellipsis | just move your health bar to side "left" or "right" instead of "center" |
| 17:46.12 | Stanzilla | it's the "Side" option |
| 17:46.17 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 17:46.55 | khangg | yeah i just foudn that :) |
| 17:48.08 | Ellipsis | why does svn hate me? |
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| 17:57.49 | khangg | too hard to get my achieved results, so back to oUF |
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| 17:58.55 | ckknight | anyone having issues with the login server? |
| 17:59.17 | [Liquidor] | What do you think of my UI on this one? http://www.stage6.com/user/Liquidon/video/2201361/ |
| 17:59.21 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, which region? |
| 17:59.48 | ckknight | US |
| 18:00.07 | [Liquidor] | did you try trace it? |
| 18:01.42 | dylanm | [Liquidor]: It's nice. |
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| 18:02.26 | ckknight | that fixed it |
| 18:02.49 | [Liquidor] | oh you meant here |
| 18:02.59 | [Liquidor] | thought you were talking about the game server |
| 18:03.29 | dylanm | [Liquidor]: I've tried just having the cast bar in my unit frame for symmetry but I just couldn't get used to it. |
| 18:03.38 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: I did mean the game server |
| 18:03.47 | ckknight | I disconnected and reconnected the wireless connection |
| 18:03.50 | ckknight | fixed it |
| 18:03.55 | [Liquidor] | kk |
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| 18:04.37 | dylanm | I guess your chat kinda looks... it's oddly default in a sea of customization. |
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| 18:06.02 | Tupsi | someone mentioned getting waypoints with routes |
| 18:06.20 | Tupsi | or was it another addon? |
| 18:06.31 | Tupsi | as people where talking about cartograph alternatives |
| 18:07.49 | dylanm | [Liquidor]: What does your bars over your unit frames? I like what it's doing with PW:S and WS. |
| 18:08.25 | [SW]Dodge | someone here who knows a lot about AceGUI/AceConfig/AceConfigDialog -3.0 ? i need some help :) |
| 18:08.35 | Xinhuan | yes? |
| 18:09.27 | Xinhuan | that "yes" is to both dodge and tupsi |
| 18:10.01 | [SW]Dodge | i want the subtrees open by default in my config. nevcairiel said its just possible "with some funny hacks". i tried to find out more about config/dialog/cui by reading the code but it is a bit complex |
| 18:11.03 | Xinhuan | unfortunately, i'll rather just wait for a formal API |
| 18:11.07 | Xinhuan | than to apply said hack |
| 18:11.27 | Xinhuan | so the official answer is "currently not supported yet" |
| 18:12.57 | Tupsi | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.16 | Tupsi | i am still a bit stunned about that gatherhud |
| 18:13.18 | Xinhuan | i hear the alternative is TomTom on googlecode's trunk |
| 18:13.26 | Xinhuan | what about gatherhud? |
| 18:13.28 | Xinhuan | i wrote that one |
| 18:13.37 | Fisker- | wi hate your UI [Liquidor] :o |
| 18:13.54 | CIA-10 | 03ellipsis * r60558 10PitBull/HappinessIcon/HappinessIcon.lua: PitBull_HappinessIcon - fix an issue with the icon not updating on login |
| 18:14.08 | Xinhuan | wow Ellipsis commiting fixes |
| 18:14.14 | Tupsi | its new for me and irritating, which does not say anything about good or bad .-) |
| 18:14.27 | dylanm | Haha I like how that's surprising :p |
| 18:14.44 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest getting rid of GatherHud if you don't find it useful -- i personally don't use it |
| 18:14.47 | [SW]Dodge | Q_Q every one got an account but not me :E |
| 18:14.49 | Xinhuan | (because its redundant) |
| 18:14.51 | Fisker- | tw [Liquidor] aren't you on ravencrest eu? |
| 18:15.00 | Fisker- | btw* |
| 18:15.02 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I know, crazy right? |
| 18:15.08 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 18:15.27 | Tupsi | well of course, have it running for the first time, not judged it yet |
| 18:15.39 | Tupsi | but gives a nice /gasp the first time it pops up :-) |
| 18:15.40 | Xinhuan | i don't really use every addon i wrote ;p |
| 18:15.49 | Xinhuan | its neat when you fly on a gryphon route |
| 18:15.55 | Xinhuan | cos its sooo smoooth scrolling |
| 18:16.18 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60559 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - get All Units options working and make it create itself lazily |
| 18:16.20 | Xinhuan | but it just looks pretty and doesn't really offer that much |
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| 18:16.59 | Tupsi | so tell me please, whats the alternative to the waypoints in carto? |
| 18:17.08 | Xinhuan | i told you tupsi |
| 18:17.12 | Tupsi | yeah sorry |
| 18:17.12 | Xinhuan | the alternative is TomTom |
| 18:17.29 | khangg | whats wrong with waypoints? |
| 18:17.32 | Tupsi | hmm, didnt saw that on files, have to check again |
| 18:17.38 | Xinhuan | its not on files |
| 18:17.39 | Tupsi | khangg : nothing |
| 18:17.42 | Xinhuan | its only on googlecode trunk |
| 18:17.46 | khangg | its on wowinterface too |
| 18:17.51 | Tupsi | ahh ok |
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| 18:18.02 | Xinhuan | the wowinterface version doesn't have arrows |
| 18:18.05 | Xinhuan | yet |
| 18:18.06 | khangg | oo |
| 18:18.08 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 18:18.23 | Xinhuan | might have been updated this week |
| 18:18.25 | khangg | never even knew where was arrows |
| 18:18.33 | Xinhuan | its a new addition |
| 18:18.35 | Xinhuan | hence only on googlecode |
| 18:18.49 | Xinhuan | its not all that stable yet, but ammo says it is |
| 18:18.51 | khangg | ahh |
| 18:18.59 | Xinhuan | so it'll probably go on wowi soon |
| 18:19.26 | Grum | it had some calculation errors or other errors in combination with astrolabe orso |
| 18:19.45 | Xinhuan | well when it goes on wowi, that is when i'll add routes support |
| 18:19.53 | Grum | yup |
| 18:22.36 | chexsum | 1110AP from druids pvp staff is a bit ridiculous imho |
| 18:23.11 | khangg | lawl |
| 18:23.13 | khangg | i agree |
| 18:23.28 | chexsum | im a 500 res disc priest and a druid just wiped the floor with me |
| 18:23.49 | chexsum | i couldnt even heal myself let alone do damage |
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| 18:26.50 | chexsum | full s3 feral druid > me |
| 18:27.19 | Fisker- | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.msg177876#msg177876 <-anyone know if this is grid related or cowtip related? |
| 18:28.30 | Xinhuan | it is... Fisker-related! |
| 18:28.45 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.07 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: needs moar explaint |
| 18:29.37 | Ellipsis | also the easy way to answer your question is to check if the same thing happens on non-grid UFs |
| 18:29.39 | Mudkipz | full s3 feral druid > full tier 6 feral druid |
| 18:29.42 | Mudkipz | true story |
| 18:29.51 | Fisker- | no moar explanation needed Ellipsis |
| 18:29.58 | Fisker- | well it works on pitbull |
| 18:30.00 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: your post makes 0 sense |
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| 18:30.08 | Fisker- | NO YOUR POST |
| 18:30.09 | Fisker- | :< |
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| 18:30.26 | Fisker- | also you already explained a way to check it, which means you know exactly what i meant |
| 18:30.28 | Fisker- | ownt |
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| 18:31.06 | Ellipsis | no |
| 18:31.15 | Fisker- | the victory dance |
| 18:31.18 | Ellipsis | I explained to do "whatever causes the problem" on something other than grid |
| 18:31.24 | Ellipsis | I don't understand what causes the problem or what it is |
| 18:31.29 | Ellipsis | is it what they reported in COW-1 |
| 18:31.41 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:31.58 | Fisker- | basically the fix that was introduced to fix the bug does not work on Grid |
| 18:32.01 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 18:32.06 | Ellipsis | I blame grid |
| 18:32.13 | Ellipsis | doesn't it have its own tooltip hiding option? |
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| 18:34.45 | Fisker- | hm |
| 18:34.50 | Fisker- | should check when i login again |
| 18:34.54 | Fisker- | can i beat you up? |
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| 18:37.01 | Ellipsis | yeah sure Fisker- have fun |
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| 18:37.40 | Fisker- | yay |
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| 18:44.42 | Grum | <Ellipsis> doesn't it have its own tooltip hiding option? <-- dunno but i also noticed 'wonky' behaviour |
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| 18:58.14 | CIA-10 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r60560 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: bugfix, height of target frame bars can be adjusted too |
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| 18:59.39 | NeoTron | not only would it increase MY (destro lock) dps |
| 18:59.48 | NeoTron | it would likely make firelock a viable spec for raids |
| 19:00.47 | NeoTron | no ISB for fire ofc, but you get 10% bonus from talents.. all that is needed is that incinerate scales as well as SB from damage |
| 19:01.07 | NeoTron | and it would likely make firelock the choosen "haste spec" for destruction lock, if balanced properly |
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| 19:03.17 | xyu | that's what warlocks need |
| 19:03.18 | xyu | more dps |
| 19:03.20 | xyu | -_- |
| 19:03.58 | NeoTron | mind you |
| 19:04.07 | NeoTron | it's a clear nerf to the token affliction lock and shdow priests |
| 19:04.20 | NeoTron | shadowseer gives ppl about 10-13% dmg increasr from ISB today in the raid |
| 19:04.31 | NeoTron | so nerf SP dps with at least 10% |
| 19:04.40 | TNZe | more like 99% |
| 19:04.45 | xyu | and buff warlocks? |
| 19:04.47 | TNZe | because spriests are gonna go all emo and quit playing |
| 19:04.49 | xyu | still doesn't make sense to me |
| 19:05.56 | xyu | TNSe: SP are already hard to find on my realm qq |
| 19:05.59 | xyu | good ones at least. |
| 19:06.06 | TNZe | we have 3 awesome ones |
| 19:06.08 | xyu | you can find a slew of bad ones. |
| 19:06.12 | TNZe | keeping 1300+ dps on gorefiend |
| 19:06.34 | xyu | yeah, hold on to them. they're a godsend , give them double dkp :P |
| 19:06.41 | TNZe | yesterday I didnt even have shaman and kept 1300 >_< |
| 19:06.56 | TNZe | but I was waiting for another nerf |
| 19:06.58 | xyu | oh wait, you're one of them? n/m |
| 19:07.01 | TNZe | :P |
| 19:07.13 | TNZe | we've gotten so many nerfs lately its not even funny anymore |
| 19:07.46 | NeoTron | I don't agree that SP' |
| 19:07.57 | TNZe | sp's dont scale |
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| 19:08.01 | NeoTron | SP's need nerfing and affliction warlocks ar a sorry bunch in crit/haste heavy gear |
| 19:08.16 | NeoTron | there needs to be more affliction/SP gear |
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| 19:08.23 | NeoTron | no/little stats except damage |
| 19:08.36 | NeoTron | and haste NEEDS to affect dots |
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| 19:08.43 | TNZe | heh |
| 19:08.49 | xyu | afflic can have buffs but destro? c'mon |
| 19:08.49 | NeoTron | it makes no sense that it doesn't scale that particular damage type |
| 19:08.51 | TNZe | if it did spriest would have more than 1 stat to scale with |
| 19:09.01 | TNZe | and that would make it nearly useable |
| 19:09.04 | NeoTron | xyu: most people will complain that it's a nerf |
| 19:09.12 | NeoTron | and interestingly it Is a nerf to, say, PvP or solo |
| 19:09.28 | NeoTron | but likely a slight buff to raid dps |
| 19:09.28 | Laric | anyone knows if there is any tag in dogtag to give whos the loot on the mouseover mob is? |
| 19:09.42 | NeoTron | mind you I don't account for the nerf of life tap which, if true, would counteract the buff |
| 19:09.59 | NeoTron | TNZe: SP's and affliction locks both |
| 19:10.03 | xyu | Warlocks don't really life tap in raids anyway |
| 19:10.05 | TNZe | 10% less spriest damage = 10% less spriest mana = 10% party dps nerf |
| 19:10.08 | xyu | ugh, i hate locks :D |
| 19:10.12 | NeoTron | xyu: of course we do |
| 19:10.13 | TNZe | more or less |
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| 19:10.31 | durcyn | i life tap on movement fights |
| 19:10.39 | NeoTron | I use mana potions too in stand and nuke fights (i.e gorefiend) but that's not enough to sustain me |
| 19:10.40 | xyu | NeoTron: what pots do warlocks generally use? |
| 19:10.48 | xyu | and you still need tap? |
| 19:10.50 | durcyn | mana potions are the most effective |
| 19:10.51 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:11.02 | NeoTron | destro locks aer highly mana-inefficient |
| 19:11.20 | NeoTron | without lifetap I'd be OOM (with pots) in about 1.5 minutes I think |
| 19:11.39 | NeoTron | 60s or so of nuking + a potion |
| 19:11.56 | NeoTron | we have no maan restoring/reducing talents on hit/crit |
| 19:12.07 | NeoTron | all we have is an expensive nuke + life tap |
| 19:13.18 | NeoTron | yeah so ~60s nuking and I'm OOM |
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| 19:13.56 | kagaro | !c us ysera moonfann |
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| 19:13.59 | ThraeBot | kagaro: Moonfann, Level 70 Draenei Priest (14/0/47). 7081 HP; 8850 Mana; 130 mana regen; 39 mp5; 154 spell crit; 56 spell hit; 952 +spell dmg; 882 +heal; 233 frost dmg (1185); 284 shadow dmg (1236); 5.10% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1410 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw6wx4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38lh7j ][ Updated: Thu Feb 7 14:22:53 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:14.30 | kagaro | i need more +dam |
| 19:14.33 | NeoTron | adding in mana regen from SP and such I still can't last any real duration fight without extensive tapping |
| 19:14.42 | _Parnic | so...my addon uses waterfall for config options and that all works fine...but it doesn't show up in rock's config screen...do i have to do something special to make rock list it? |
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| 19:20.20 | CIA-10 | 03oridan * r60561 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 19:20.20 | CIA-10 | SpellReminder: |
| 19:20.20 | CIA-10 | - fix BG multiple bars |
| 19:20.20 | CIA-10 | - proper handling of spells with no aura (like shadowfiend), or auras with no timer (like totems). |
| 19:20.34 | Ordog | got a little problem with bagnon + outfitter, is there anything known about tooltips not working on the base itemslots? |
| 19:22.22 | Hell-Razor | anybody know what addon i have to get in order to see the CoT with atlas? |
| 19:25.24 | Camma | CoT is in Atlas under Kalmidor |
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| 19:44.59 | Ozguli` | bleh... my guild can dps curator down before 2nd evocation, but fail pretty much at later bosses |
| 19:45.08 | Ozguli` | I'm the priest with over 2k healing raid buffed |
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| 19:50.30 | Primer | that's pretty sad |
| 19:52.36 | CIA-10 | 03julith 07Julith * r60562 10Grid/ (GridStatusHeals.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 19:52.36 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 19:52.36 | CIA-10 | - switched to trunk version of LibHealComm-3.0 |
| 19:52.37 | CIA-10 | - removed limitation on arrival time of incoming heals |
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| 19:54.20 | Paene | If you specify the indexes for a table with strings (i.e. ["this"] = true) can you still reference it by numerical position in the table? |
| 19:55.14 | Josh_Borke | Paene: no |
| 19:55.24 | Paene | Josh_Borke: Didn't think so :( |
| 19:55.24 | Josh_Borke | Paene: what would the number be for that pair? |
| 19:55.36 | maia | Paene: a hash is an unordered table, keyed by alphanumericals, while an array is ordered. |
| 19:55.41 | Josh_Borke | Paene: how wolud that make sense? would the value be teh key or the value be the value? |
| 19:55.46 | Josh_Borke | maia: wb |
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| 19:56.20 | maia | lua docs need to differ between hashes and arrays, instead of calling both 'tables' |
| 19:56.33 | Josh_Borke | but they are tables |
| 19:56.35 | Josh_Borke | they are a part of a table |
| 19:56.36 | maia | lol |
| 19:57.00 | Josh_Borke | { 'ordered', 'portion', ['hash'] = true, ['portion'] = true } is both |
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| 19:57.12 | maia | that's a nested table |
| 19:57.36 | [SW]Dodge | wtf... "Morogrim Tidewalker - Boss 73 Warrior" O.o |
| 19:57.51 | [SW]Dodge | no more '??' ^^ |
| 19:57.56 | Josh_Borke | maia: how? |
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| 19:58.15 | maia | Josh_Borke: uum, I answered that too early. |
| 19:58.32 | Josh_Borke | yea, caues you answered WRONG |
| 19:58.46 | maia | Josh_Borke: and I'm staring at it very confused, as this is something that's not possible in other languages I assue |
| 19:58.49 | maia | *assume |
| 19:58.53 | maia | Josh_Borke: ;) |
| 19:59.00 | kenlyric | [SW]Dodge: any number of mods will make that conversion |
| 19:59.02 | Josh_Borke | maia: geebus, how long have you been out of it? |
| 19:59.04 | maia | Josh_Borke: spent the past year with ruby. |
| 19:59.04 | kenlyric | does blizzard do it by default now? |
| 19:59.12 | maia | no more lua for me |
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| 19:59.16 | Josh_Borke | maia: geebus, you've been away that long? |
| 19:59.21 | maia | aye |
| 19:59.25 | Josh_Borke | wtf are you doing back tehn? |
| 19:59.27 | Josh_Borke | gtfo |
| 20:02.09 | maia | honestly, I always was confused with lua and tables, and then came ruby and all of a sudden I understood the difference between hashes and arrays. |
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| 20:03.36 | Josh_Borke | meh, they are just tables in lua |
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| 20:04.12 | nevcairiel | i kinda like lua tables |
| 20:04.16 | Josh_Borke | and as far as i know, they don't really exist other places |
| 20:04.17 | nevcairiel | easy to use and flexible too |
| 20:04.42 | kneeki | They are, once you figure them out :) |
| 20:04.53 | kneeki | I just yesterday got 'good' with them. And I still suck |
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| 20:05.23 | kneeki | However, with working all day on my latest addon, it has come a LONG ways |
| 20:05.39 | kneeki | Now supports all classes for a single addon, instead of one addon per class =) |
| 20:06.12 | maia | Josh_Borke: technically, isn't your example a hash with the first two elements having nil as values? ;) |
| 20:06.38 | Josh_Borke | maia: no, by lua syntax definition they are values with keys being numerically indexed starting from 1 |
| 20:07.00 | maia | Josh_Borke: yeah, I now remember why lua tables are confusing and ugly as hell |
| 20:07.23 | Josh_Borke | they are not ugly! |
| 20:07.30 | Fisker- | i like Josh_Borke btw |
| 20:07.41 | Josh_Borke | oh god, i need to change |
| 20:07.54 | maia | I like you too - even though we disagree ;p |
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| 20:11.04 | KsDra | Hello, is anyone here familiar with BigWigs? |
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| 20:12.22 | maia | KsDra: well, most of us use it. |
| 20:12.48 | Kemayo | ~asktoask |
| 20:12.49 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 20:14.06 | KsDra | Well, I was wondering if it is possible to 'simulate' on it at all, that is force a particular boss mod to feed out bars etc to do testing |
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| 20:14.17 | Josh_Borke | there's a test bars option |
| 20:14.22 | Josh_Borke | that shows all the bars and their locations |
| 20:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | is there a jira for bigwigs or will i have to post on the forums? i'd like to request the pounding castbar from voidreaver as bigwigs bar. |
| 20:14.31 | Josh_Borke | but no way to test individual boss mods |
| 20:15.16 | _Parnic | so...my addon uses waterfall for config options and that all works fine...but it doesn't show up in rock's config screen...do i have to do something special to make rock list it? |
| 20:15.21 | KsDra | Hmm, alright, well I needed to make a modification that adds raid icons in the MS boss encounter and wanted to test it before the next raid |
| 20:17.31 | Kemayo | KsDra: If you know the trigger and just want to make sure the icons will appear, then you could get into a raid and manually trigger it with some /script commands. |
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| 20:19.07 | KsDra | hmm I have considered that, but it is bound directly to the fatal attraction of the boss, and unfortunately I do not know the formatting of the call out... |
| 20:19.23 | KsDra | not to mention it is tokenized at the callout so I dont even think i could manually input it |
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| 20:22.08 | Kemayo | KsDra: Having very quickly skimmed the file, something like: /script BigWigs:GetModule('Mother Shahraz'):FatalAtt("KsDra is afflicted by Fatal Attraction.") |
| 20:22.28 | Camma | Does anyone hava link to tekkub's stacksize addon |
| 20:23.18 | dylanm | Camma: http://git.tekkub.net/tekIsStacked/snapshot/tekIsStacked-master.zip |
| 20:24.14 | Camma | thanks, did'nt find the link in his git or svn |
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| 20:33.38 | _Parnic | anybody know what this svn submit failure means? Could not parse response status line. (http://dev.wowace.com) |
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| 20:36.02 | Pkekyo| | jjoker |
| 20:38.45 | KsDra | Kemayo, how does one go about submitting a modification for integration into the trunk? |
| 20:39.15 | Fisker- | ahha Ellipsis |
| 20:39.27 | Fisker- | The problem is when Grid's tooltip option is set to never :D |
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| 20:41.55 | Kemayo | KsDra: Either mention it on the forum thread or track down [Ammo], vhaarr, or Funkydude on IRC and ask them about it. |
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| 20:42.16 | Elsia | heya |
| 20:46.10 | Chompers | i just watched a z speed run video by ej, they sure do make it look easy |
| 20:46.22 | Chompers | *za |
| 20:48.36 | nevcairiel | my guild should film that once .. hmm |
| 20:48.39 | Fisker- | just like your mother Chompers ;D |
| 20:49.32 | Chompers | oh fisker, you scamp |
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| 20:51.26 | Fisker- | hoho Chompers |
| 20:51.27 | Fisker- | i win |
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| 20:51.51 | Fisker- | i'm so sick |
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| 20:54.14 | Elsia | the main thing about ZA timed is the bat gauntlet really |
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| 20:57.00 | Josh_Borke | fucking bat gauntleet |
| 20:57.28 | CIA-10 | 03ngollon * r60563 10SimpleSoulstone/SimpleSoulstone.lua: |
| 20:57.28 | CIA-10 | SimpleSoulstone: |
| 20:57.28 | CIA-10 | -bugfixed another glitch concerning spirit of redemption, sorry |
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| 21:01.52 | CIA-10 | 03parnic * r60564 10IceHUD/IceUnitBar.lua: |
| 21:01.52 | CIA-10 | IceHUD: |
| 21:01.52 | CIA-10 | - added an intermediate color to health/mana blending values so health goes green => yellow => red instead of brown in the middle |
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| 21:30.58 | Camma | anyone arround who is good with makros |
| 21:31.24 | Josh_Borke | i believe they are spelled macros |
| 21:31.28 | Josh_Borke | and you should just pastey what you want |
| 21:31.36 | Camma | #showtooltip [flyable] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake <- working line |
| 21:31.36 | Camma | #showtooltip [noflyable] Horn of the Swift Gray Wolf <- not working |
| 21:32.01 | Camma | yes its macros :) |
| 21:32.46 | Camma | it's my mount macro |
| 21:33.30 | Josh_Borke | beats me |
| 21:33.56 | Camma | darn the dumm thing is if you look at the whole thing: |
| 21:33.56 | Camma | #showtooltip [flyable] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake |
| 21:33.56 | Camma | #showtooltip [noflyable] Horn of the Swift Gray Wolf |
| 21:33.56 | Camma | /use [noflyable,nomounted][button:2,nomounted] Horn of the Swift Gray Wolf |
| 21:33.56 | Camma | /use [flyable,nomounted] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake |
| 21:33.57 | Camma | /dismount |
| 21:34.38 | Camma | the bottom part works, in Flyable zones it shows the dracke tt, in No-fly zones ist shows the ? but works |
| 21:34.51 | EvilJohn- | did you try it like this |
| 21:35.10 | EvilJohn- | #showtooltip [flyable] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake, Horn of the Swift Gray Wolf |
| 21:35.25 | Camma | nope i'll test it brb |
| 21:35.39 | EvilJohn- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.49 | EvilJohn- | not sure what you're doing exactly, but maybe something like that |
| 21:35.52 | vithos | i use this |
| 21:35.56 | vithos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:36.01 | vithos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:36.52 | Camma | Evil that won't work tested it, Vitos Ill try |
| 21:37.07 | EvilJohn- | it's ; not , |
| 21:37.17 | EvilJohn- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.26 | EvilJohn- | #showtooltip [flyable] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake;Horn of the Swift Gray Wolf |
| 21:40.29 | Camma | #showtooltip [flyable] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake;Horn of the Swift Gray Wolf |
| 21:42.49 | piggles | cast [button:1, flyable, nomounted] Turbo-Charged Flying Machine Control;[button:1,nomounted] Summon Dreadsteed(Summon) |
| 21:43.13 | Fisker- | can you still bug trash at morogrim? |
| 21:43.13 | piggles | button is used for hearthstone (tooltip is hearthstone also) |
| 21:44.04 | Camma | Vithos & Evil thanks both work |
| 21:44.37 | Camma | the nice thing about yours Vithos is it shows wen only walking is avaible |
| 21:45.33 | Camma | wondering if that can be done with the one off Evil, if you name the macro Walk :) |
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| 21:49.49 | _Parnic | so...my addon uses waterfall for config options and that all works fine...but it doesn't show up in rock's config screen...do i have to do something special to make rock list it? |
| 21:50.52 | Tifi | Fisker-, bug trash? |
| 21:53.14 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:53.20 | Fisker- | i heard you could despawn it in some way |
| 21:54.12 | Kemayo | _Parnic: I think rock only picks up tables that have been registered as chat commands by ace2 addons. Or maybe that have had InjectAceOptionsTable used. |
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| 21:56.08 | _Parnic | ahh, ok. i don't think i have the table registered as a command, only the waterfall config menu. Thanks! |
| 21:56.59 | Tifi | Fisker-, only 2 groups despawn afaik when you pull tide |
| 21:57.59 | Fisker- | aww |
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| 22:09.18 | CIA-10 | 03xbeeps * r60565 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 22:09.18 | CIA-10 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 22:09.18 | CIA-10 | - Internal optimisations. |
| 22:09.18 | CIA-10 | - Fix wrong icon-name in healbuff table. |
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| 22:10.48 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 22:13.28 | Tifi | mhm |
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| 22:19.21 | _Parnic | Kemayo: Thanks, after formatting my options table to be consistent with the console requirements (rougher than waterfall!) my addon showed up in rock config. I appreciate it! |
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| 22:26.43 | thul | hey ho |
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| 22:30.00 | Paene | Is there a branch of BabbleSpell for Ace3? (or Rock would work too) |
| 22:30.23 | Ellipsis | there's a libstub one |
| 22:30.27 | Ellipsis | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 22:30.32 | Paene | excellent |
| 22:30.35 | Paene | that's what I need |
| 22:30.48 | Paene | thanks :) |
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| 22:32.22 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60566 10PitBull/HappinessIcon/HappinessIcon.lua: |
| 22:32.22 | CIA-10 | PitBull |
| 22:32.22 | CIA-10 | - koKR Update |
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| 22:35.53 | CIA-10 | 03parnic * r60567 10IceHUD/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:35.53 | CIA-10 | IceHUD: |
| 22:35.53 | CIA-10 | - did minor options table cleanup and made a console /icehudcl command so that IceHUD gets picked up by rock config |
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| 22:39.58 | vithos | I'm getting double timestamps on emotes with Prat |
| 22:40.54 | Sais | Are they there if you disable prat? |
| 22:40.58 | vithos | and %l causes 'date' format too long |
| 22:41.05 | vithos | no |
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| 22:44.35 | Sais | I get single timestamps - at least on my own emotes. But I haven't updated since yesterday |
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| 22:45.39 | thul | hmm |
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| 22:54.00 | _Parnic | who do we have to ask to get a Jira project created for our addon? |
| 22:54.12 | WobWork | Possibly Kael |
| 22:54.30 | _Parnic | alright, i'll shoot an email |
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| 22:56.22 | pastamancer | yeah, Kaelten is the man to talk to about getting a jira project created |
| 22:58.01 | _Parnic | thanks :) |
| 22:58.52 | Kaelten | *runs away* |
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| 23:00.34 | WobWork | there he goes! |
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| 23:01.39 | _Parnic | hahaha |
| 23:01.45 | _Parnic | i emailed you Kaelten :) |
| 23:02.01 | Kaelten | hehe |
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| 23:14.24 | kebinusan | bleh, I hate having to buy a new power supply to buy a new graphics card |
| 23:14.46 | haste | I'm still running on my good old 315W! |
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| 23:15.04 | haste | with a 7900GT and six HDD |
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| 23:15.19 | kebinusan | hehe, mine doesnt have the 6 pin pcie power thing on it |
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| 23:16.18 | kebinusan | hm though, somebody probably makes a molex to pcie power adapter thing |
| 23:16.30 | haste | yep |
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| 23:18.21 | [Liquidor] | Hehe http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i= :P I'm having fun |
| 23:18.54 | CIA-10 | 03piotrb * r60568 10FuBar_PvpFu/Core.lua: FuBar_PvpFu: added support for yesterday's stats (whatever I can get with the api functions) and a little bit of internal cleanup |
| 23:19.35 | vithos | nice, an interface for armory that doesn't destroy my web browser |
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| 23:20.28 | vithos | i can't seem to get it to switch to US though? |
| 23:21.40 | Primer | except...it's broken? |
| 23:21.51 | Primer | mouse over is empty |
| 23:22.07 | Primer | and doesn't stay within the browser, making scroll bars |
| 23:22.09 | Primer | very bad |
| 23:22.56 | Primer | bwahahah |
| 23:23.02 | Primer | it loaded the text inside the hover |
| 23:23.41 | Primer | looks like a php variable dump |
| 23:23.43 | [Liquidor] | rofl vithos, site is no way near finished |
| 23:23.49 | [Liquidor] | it is Primer |
| 23:23.54 | Primer | ahh ok |
| 23:23.57 | Primer | so it was intentional |
| 23:24.06 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 23:24.13 | [Liquidor] | just like looking at those icons |
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| 23:24.31 | Primer | make the JS detect that the hover has gone beyond the browser limits and make it go above/left of the mouse as needed |
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| 23:28.57 | [Liquidor] | Primer, done that but locally only |
| 23:29.17 | Primer | good...that's one of my pet peeves :) |
| 23:32.12 | CIA-10 | 03oridan * r60569 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 23:32.12 | CIA-10 | SpellReminder: |
| 23:32.12 | CIA-10 | - Stop pet auras from showing as "Unknown" when login. |
| 23:32.12 | CIA-10 | - Slash command now shows the dewdrop menu instead of text. |
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| 23:39.25 | CIA-10 | 03crashmstr * r60570 10ASSBlock/ASSBlock.lua: |
| 23:39.25 | CIA-10 | ASSBlock: |
| 23:39.25 | CIA-10 | - changed default for TradeBlock to false |
| 23:39.25 | CIA-10 | - added guards against nil values |
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| 23:41.33 | RaydenUni | i wish there was 'kara' equivalent 5 man |
| 23:41.41 | RaydenUni | for when my guild sucks and 10 people don't show up |
| 23:42.46 | CIA-10 | 03peragor * r60571 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 23:42.46 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 23:42.46 | CIA-10 | - Added sorting to all layouts. In doing so had to replace the some of the Default core Grid layouts with custom ones. |
| 23:42.46 | CIA-10 | - The sorting order (for class, pet, and role) is 3 local variables at the top |
| 23:42.47 | CIA-10 | of the code. You can change the order if you like. I will probably add options |
| 23:42.49 | CIA-10 | to customize then via the grid configuration in the next commit. |
| 23:44.46 | [Liquidor] | Primer, Here's a game: Find the Legendary: http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i= |
| 23:45.09 | Primer | warp slicer! |
| 23:45.39 | Pheredhel | there is more then one legendary in there |
| 23:45.45 | [Liquidor] | yup :) |
| 23:45.53 | Primer | but warp slicer is more legendary than all others |
| 23:45.59 | [Liquidor] | Found 2 more |
| 23:46.26 | Pheredhel | uhm... the whole kael'thas set is in there |
| 23:46.38 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 23:46.40 | [Liquidor] | stupid game then |
| 23:47.08 | Pheredhel | and (exept bulwark) all next to eachother ;) |
| 23:47.54 | Primer | can't wait to get my S3 chest next week |
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| 23:55.42 | CIA-10 | 03pettigrow * r60572 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Najentus: frFR Update |
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