| 00:00.14 | Silowyi | spoken like a caster ;) |
| 00:00.14 | Diao | warrior actually :( |
| 00:00.14 | CIA-10 | 03firelemming * r60623 10RuinBossTactics/RuinBossTactics.lua: |
| 00:00.14 | CIA-10 | RuinBossTactics: |
| 00:00.14 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.15 | Diao | but i play bad setups |
| 00:00.15 | Silowyi | warrior is the anti-rogue :P |
| 00:00.15 | Diao | cause i don't know any resto druids |
| 00:00.15 | Diao | lol |
| 00:00.15 | Diao | it's not anymore |
| 00:00.23 | Diao | ss rogues just tank me |
| 00:00.27 | Diao | while beating me down :( |
| 00:00.29 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: pong |
| 00:00.47 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 00:00.49 | Silowyi | ok |
| 00:00.52 | Silowyi | this annoys me |
| 00:01.01 | Silowyi | how come we play a team that's the same rank and lose 17 points |
| 00:01.03 | Xinhuan | what was it? |
| 00:01.08 | Silowyi | then play another team that's the same rank as us, and gain 14 points |
| 00:01.16 | Diao | uh |
| 00:01.19 | Diao | same rank at the end of the match? |
| 00:01.29 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: nothing important |
| 00:01.34 | Silowyi | no |
| 00:01.35 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 00:01.42 | Diao | o_O |
| 00:01.45 | Diao | you should lose/gain 15 points |
| 00:01.51 | Diao | from a team that was same rank as you at start of game |
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| 00:06.57 | CIA-10 | IRQ: |
| 00:06.57 | CIA-10 | - Add options for setting the bar scales and fontsize. |
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| 00:08.41 | Silowyi | :LAswjkfdalksjdlfkajsl he fucking sucks pardon my language |
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| 00:22.08 | keiss | Killmore: got any feedback for me ? :) |
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| 00:27.23 | raylu | am i really supposed to check out each addon and lib as it's own folder from the repository, even though they're in the same repository? |
| 00:27.33 | raylu | because i really think there should only be one up date command |
| 00:28.13 | Diao | afaik yes |
| 00:28.21 | raylu | T.T |
| 00:28.26 | Diao | unless you plan to get the entire trunk |
| 00:28.30 | raylu | heh |
| 00:28.35 | raylu | i'm not used to this setup, though |
| 00:28.43 | raylu | svn commits to each addon aren't related to the others |
| 00:28.46 | raylu | they should each have their repos |
| 00:28.52 | raylu | if they're all in one repos, i shouldn't have to do what i'm doing and |
| 00:29.07 | raylu | updates from one dev that is likely only to ever update his own projects shouldn't bump the revision # for everyone |
| 00:29.19 | raylu | the first time i used a wowace plugin i thought "omg, i'm 10000 revisions out of date!!" |
| 00:29.22 | Pheredhel | raylu if you want so setup one svn repos for every single addon... |
| 00:29.30 | raylu | when there were really only a few commits for that addon |
| 00:29.40 | raylu | but there's a nice little command to do it for you |
| 00:29.53 | raylu | that + the permissions = 3 line shell script |
| 00:30.27 | Pheredhel | uhm? that you can give every user? + same low load for the packer script + forcing all developers to stick to the rules? |
| 00:30.44 | raylu | huh? |
| 00:30.50 | raylu | you would run the script yourself for every user |
| 00:31.05 | Pheredhel | uhm, not for every user, for every addon ? |
| 00:31.06 | raylu | the packer script can look in a directory |
| 00:31.13 | raylu | and i have no idea what that last one meant |
| 00:31.26 | Pheredhel | you want one repos for every addon |
| 00:31.33 | raylu | oh...users are allowed to create new directories whenever they want? |
| 00:31.41 | Pheredhel | yes |
| 00:31.51 | raylu | hum. that is a bit of a problem :P |
| 00:32.00 | Pheredhel | if you have write acces, then you can create a new addon |
| 00:32.13 | Pheredhel | and no, till now it wasn't a problem |
| 00:32.20 | raylu | so you trust the users not to screw with each other's addons? |
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| 00:32.50 | Firelemming | well, there are rules |
| 00:32.52 | Pheredhel | there are rules set in place, if you violate them (too often) you loose your write access |
| 00:33.14 | keiss | raylu: easy solution in a RCS ... revert , and remove the users privileges |
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| 00:33.42 | raylu | righto :P my mass update has finished, thanks and cya |
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| 00:33.58 | Pheredhel | another problem would be to enable external programms to know all repos ... |
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| 00:34.13 | Tuks | guys, quick question |
| 00:34.29 | Pheredhel | tuks, quick answer |
| 00:34.31 | Tuks | i have a issue with my raid.. some fucking addon is causing a lot of trafic |
| 00:34.41 | sb_ | recount sync :p |
| 00:34.45 | Pheredhel | uninstall it ;) |
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| 00:34.50 | Pheredhel | or disable it |
| 00:34.57 | Tuks | well recount says is 3T |
| 00:35.03 | Tuks | no idea what addon is using that :P |
| 00:35.06 | Pheredhel | this should help in the first place |
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| 00:35.13 | Tuks | i have recount, and my trafic is none |
| 00:35.24 | Firelemming | so annoying when you are working on your addon and all the sudden it stops working with a error: Library "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0" is not found. /sigh |
| 00:35.29 | Tuks | but 6 people are causing a lot of trafic |
| 00:35.41 | Pheredhel | what addons do you use? |
| 00:35.48 | Tuks | the problem is not me |
| 00:35.56 | Tuks | are this 6 people |
| 00:36.08 | Firelemming | tuks how do you know? |
| 00:36.09 | Tuks | how i know who they are, Recount trafic chart |
| 00:36.09 | Pheredhel | hmm, ok, and what addons do they use? |
| 00:36.15 | Pheredhel | ot what do you want to know |
| 00:36.29 | Pheredhel | and what problem is that? |
| 00:36.35 | Tuks | what addon uses the ID 3t |
| 00:36.37 | Tuks | for his trafic |
| 00:36.40 | Tuks | like.. |
| 00:36.55 | vhaarr | ~seen tuller |
| 00:36.59 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 20h 16m 36s ago, saying: 'Ellipsis: yes'. |
| 00:37.04 | Tuks | KLHTM is the ID for KTM i guess |
| 00:37.14 | Tuks | ora2, CTra, i see many of them |
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| 00:37.22 | Tuks | but none use the trafric this "3T" does |
| 00:37.29 | Firelemming | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.29 | Diao | someone asked this a long time ago |
| 00:37.49 | Tuks | this 6 people using some addon, laging the raid |
| 00:38.14 | Diao | 3T is recount |
| 00:38.23 | Diao | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8143.0 |
| 00:38.31 | Pheredhel | Oo how can 3 people get the raid to lag? |
| 00:38.44 | Pheredhel | i mean, the traffic caused can't be that much Oo |
| 00:38.50 | Diao | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8143.msg133280#msg133280 |
| 00:38.51 | Diao | rather |
| 00:39.41 | Diao | tell them all to disable the sync in recount |
| 00:39.44 | Diao | or disable recount |
| 00:40.35 | Tuks | i have recount |
| 00:40.37 | Tuks | i have sync |
| 00:40.41 | Tuks | i dont cause trafic |
| 00:40.44 | Tuks | so.. its not recount |
| 00:40.52 | Diao | except it is recount |
| 00:40.54 | Diao | lol |
| 00:40.56 | Firelemming | Such addons will incsease memory substantially over time, especilly in a raid, you might want to keep it off when not using it. |
| 00:40.57 | Firelemming | also |
| 00:40.59 | Firelemming | 3T = Recount |
| 00:41.01 | Firelemming | 2 = Cartographer |
| 00:41.03 | Firelemming | Thr = Threat 1.0 |
| 00:41.03 | Pheredhel | sure you dont do traffic ? |
| 00:41.10 | Diao | yeah Firelemming |
| 00:41.11 | Diao | i just linked that post |
| 00:41.14 | Pheredhel | how do you know you dont? |
| 00:41.46 | Firelemming | yeah diao, just posting it here, ty xD |
| 00:41.50 | Diao | :P |
| 00:42.37 | Pheredhel | most traffic trackers only report incoming traffic (don't know if it's even possible to measure outgoing traffic) |
| 00:44.24 | Firelemming | i think the things you send in addonchannel are filtered for your self, unless you force it? |
| 00:44.25 | Tuks | oh well, i apologie |
| 00:44.32 | Tuks | its recount sync.. |
| 00:44.45 | Firelemming | :) |
| 00:45.13 | Pheredhel | the problem is: afaik chatmessages from you are not sent back to you |
| 00:46.29 | Diao | you're welcome btw :P |
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| 00:48.52 | CIA-10 | 03feu * r60626 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-frFR.lua: |
| 00:48.52 | CIA-10 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 00:48.52 | CIA-10 | - updated frFR localization |
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| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60627 10/branches/Checklist2/Setup.xml: |
| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | Checklist2: |
| 00:50.59 | CIA-10 | - Removed file "Setup.xml", removed from TOC |
| 00:53.37 | Firelemming | i dont understand something, im working on a fubar plugin and all goes fine, then all the sudden it stops working and i get this error messag: Bad argument #5 to `NewAddon'. Library "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0" is not found. |
| 00:53.54 | Firelemming | and i didnt change anything in the toc or lib directorys |
| 00:54.08 | vhaarr | Firelemming: means there's some other error that you can't see causing it |
| 00:54.25 | Firelemming | yeah probly :| |
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| 01:03.00 | kneeki | What's the most common reason frames do not save their locations? |
| 01:04.03 | kneeki | I'm using 'SetPoint("BOTTOM", UIParent, "BOTTOM", 530, 100)' in the OnEnable() script (I've also tried it in the root dir of the file) and the frame keeps resetting to this location every time. |
| 01:04.19 | kneeki | every time = every time I reload UI |
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| 01:04.51 | Nargiddley | because you set it to there every time |
| 01:05.03 | keiss | because everytime u load it the SetPoing is called ? |
| 01:05.23 | kneeki | I thought the default WoW UI resets it to the last location placed by the user? |
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| 01:05.49 | keiss | even if it did u SetPoint call would change it ? :) |
| 01:05.57 | Nargiddley | that would happen before you're script runs, so yes it would change it |
| 01:06.03 | kneeki | oohhh |
| 01:06.04 | Nargiddley | is it created in lua or xml ? |
| 01:06.06 | kneeki | I thought it occured after |
| 01:06.08 | kneeki | LUA |
| 01:06.08 | krka | kneeki: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 01:06.11 | kneeki | err |
| 01:06.11 | kneeki | Lua |
| 01:06.14 | kneeki | sorry =P |
| 01:06.18 | Nargiddley | then it probably wont save anyway |
| 01:06.23 | kneeki | It does |
| 01:06.33 | kneeki | I'll just do a check if the frame is user placed |
| 01:06.34 | Nargiddley | not sure how early things have to be created to get the position restored |
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| 01:07.04 | Nargiddley | I find it better to save the position yourself rather than rely on bliz to do it |
| 01:07.53 | Nargiddley | Otherwise if you disable you addon for even one load, or the frame isn't created for some reason. The position will be lost |
| 01:08.06 | Firelemming | bah, cant figure it out. to tired anyway. stupid hiddin errors. |
| 01:08.12 | Firelemming | goodnight everybody |
| 01:08.18 | kneeki | Yup |
| 01:08.22 | kneeki | good night |
| 01:08.52 | kneeki | Ugh |
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| 01:09.56 | kneeki | okay, wth |
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| 01:10.40 | kneeki | I'm doing a check for frame:IsUserPlaced() and placing the frames if they are not, and manually setting SetUserPlaced(1) when 'OnDragStop' is called, but the location is still being reset. |
| 01:10.43 | kneeki | grrrr |
| 01:11.12 | nevcairiel | just ignore all blizzard positioning stuff and save the position yourself |
| 01:11.20 | kneeki | I think I'll have to do that. :( |
| 01:11.48 | nevcairiel | its really simple anyway |
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| 01:11.59 | kneeki | Oh? |
| 01:12.08 | kneeki | GetPoint() ? |
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| 01:16.51 | CIA-10 | 03dfscott * r60628 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua: |
| 01:16.51 | CIA-10 | GridStatusMissingBuffs: |
| 01:16.51 | CIA-10 | - Add Shadow Protection/Prayer of Shadow Protection |
| 01:18.27 | CIA-10 | 03grayhoof 072.0 * r60629 10Proximo/locals/localization-enUS.lua: Proximo: Added updated locals file |
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| 01:22.42 | Primer | hrmm, missing buffs |
| 01:22.48 | Primer | I need to get an addon that does that |
| 01:24.33 | CIA-10 | 03grayhoof 072.0 * r60630 10Proximo/libs/: Proximo: Updated externals to trunk locations |
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| 01:33.45 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60632 10/branches/Checklist2/Locale-enUS.lua: Checklist2: Reorganizing stuff |
| 01:36.55 | CIA-10 | 03feu * r60633 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc): |
| 01:36.55 | CIA-10 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0: |
| 01:36.55 | CIA-10 | - updated Notes-frFR toc localization |
| 01:36.55 | CIA-10 | - updated some spell icons |
| 01:37.04 | Kivin | nQuestLog fairly consistently grows in memory even when it's not in use. what in the world is it doing? |
| 01:37.23 | RaydenUni | wow miniatures? |
| 01:41.44 | [Liquidor] | Haha this phonecall rocks :P (It's supposed to be in year 2020 I think) http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf |
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| 01:43.29 | RaydenUni | iconic individuals like Warchief Thrall and Leeroy Jenkins. |
| 01:44.35 | kenlyric | is George the 1000 DPS warrior there? |
| 01:44.44 | kenlyric | LOCAL HERO |
| 01:49.10 | CIA-10 | 03nargiddley 07RC1 * r60634 10Ace3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 01:49.10 | CIA-10 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Add support for multiline = true on type = 'input' |
| 01:49.10 | CIA-10 | - Fix an error when all groups are hidden in a group with childGroups = 'select' |
| 01:49.10 | CIA-10 | AceGUI: Add MultiLineEditBox widget (originally by bam) |
| 01:51.06 | RaydenUni | anything i should know or do before i run gruul's for the first time? |
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| 01:51.53 | mykx | RaydenUni: what class? |
| 01:52.10 | RaydenUni | shadowpriest |
| 01:52.25 | mykx | haha just pew pew |
| 01:52.43 | mykx | gruul isn't very challenging so no worries just dps |
| 01:53.26 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: don't kill people with shatter, stay out of cave-ins and you'll win |
| 01:53.28 | sb_ | well - and run away from others after ground slam :p |
| 01:53.43 | RaydenUni | shatter? |
| 01:53.46 | NivFreak | oh man |
| 01:53.47 | RaydenUni | i'm going to lag like crazy |
| 01:53.51 | NivFreak | if you don't know what shatter is |
| 01:53.53 | NivFreak | you're in trouble ;) |
| 01:54.02 | RaydenUni | i just said i've never run it |
| 01:54.09 | NivFreak | it's pretty easy |
| 01:54.15 | NivFreak | run toward a wall after the ground slam |
| 01:54.18 | mykx | shatter is basically the closer you are to somebody the more damage both of you will take |
| 01:54.19 | NivFreak | don't go where someone else is :) |
| 01:54.33 | NivFreak | and as a shadow priest, you probably have like what, 8-9K health? |
| 01:54.34 | mykx | he will do a ground slam throwing people around followed by a shatter |
| 01:54.36 | NivFreak | buffed |
| 01:54.43 | RaydenUni | 7911 |
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| 01:54.46 | NivFreak | so yea |
| 01:54.49 | mykx | if you are next to somebody for shatter throw up a PW:S and you'll be fine |
| 01:54.51 | NivFreak | if you're near two people after the slam |
| 01:54.52 | NivFreak | you're dead |
| 01:55.14 | mykx | it may seem srs business but its really easy |
| 01:55.18 | NivFreak | it's very easy |
| 01:55.21 | NivFreak | just pay attention |
| 01:55.24 | NivFreak | zoom your camera all the way out |
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| 02:05.56 | Parnic | I'm getting reports of my addon "causing" problems with pitbull...but everyone's saying that DogTag is throwing a stack error (even with dogtag removed from IceHUD, which sorta makes sense) |
| 02:06.20 | Parnic | Everyone says the problem goes away when disabling IceHUD, but I have a hard time believing that IceHUD is breaking pitbull... http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1705.720 |
| 02:07.03 | Parnic | any ideas? |
| 02:07.30 | CIA-10 | 03feu * r60636 10Omen/localization_frFR.lua: |
| 02:07.30 | CIA-10 | Omen: |
| 02:07.30 | CIA-10 | - updated frFR translation |
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| 02:11.04 | RaydenUni | wooh 24 mannin' it maybe |
| 02:12.47 | Ellipsis | Parnic: there was a stack overflow issue in dogtag that was fixed this morning |
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| 02:15.53 | Stanzilla | not completly |
| 02:16.36 | Ellipsis | I haven't had issues since |
| 02:18.07 | Parnic | i saw that...people are saying that my addon is causing pitbull to fall apart, but the only error that gets thrown is in DogTag |
| 02:18.14 | Parnic | so....i told them there's not much I can do about that :( |
| 02:18.38 | Parnic | besides removing dogtag code from icehud. it's already checking HasInstance, but i guess they do have an instance (from pitbull), it's just not working right |
| 02:18.56 | Ellipsis | hmm... |
| 02:19.53 | Parnic | the only functions i call are DogTag:FixCasing and DogTag:Evaluate(id, string) |
| 02:20.27 | Parnic | maybe if the string in Evaluate is blank...i could skip the Evaluate call then. the only problem is that it's not happening to me so i can't debug it :P |
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| 02:22.39 | Parnic | oh, awesome! it's happening to me now :P |
| 02:22.45 | Parnic | now i can fix it |
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| 02:25.36 | Parnic | ok, this is causing the stack overflow error when used in my addon: DogTag:Evaluate("player", "[FractionalHP:HPColor:Bracket]") |
| 02:26.26 | Ellipsis | do you still get a stack overflow if you pass in a namespace? |
| 02:27.00 | Parnic | hmm...can you give an example? i'm not sure what you mean |
| 02:27.04 | Parnic | (new-ish to Ace/Lua) |
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| 02:27.20 | Killmore | hmmm |
| 02:27.23 | Killmore | nice patchnote |
| 02:27.24 | Killmore | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t20813-2_4_details_they_arrive/p34/ |
| 02:27.25 | Ellipsis | well the change that seems to have caused all these issues was ckknight adding namespaces to dogtag |
| 02:27.27 | Killmore | fake ? |
| 02:27.30 | Ellipsis | to allow addons to supply their own tags |
| 02:27.33 | Killmore | dont thing so |
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| 02:28.31 | Parnic | how do i pass in a namespace? |
| 02:28.44 | Parnic | when i'm calling DogTag = AceLibrary("LibDogTag-2.0") ? |
| 02:28.53 | Ellipsis | I dunno, I haven't seen the code since he committed it |
| 02:28.58 | Parnic | alright |
| 02:31.46 | Parnic | ckknight, need help! :P |
| 02:31.53 | Ellipsis | he's gonna be gone for a few more hours |
| 02:32.04 | Ellipsis | silly boy committed a major change to his lib when he knew he'd be out all day |
| 02:32.17 | Ellipsis | I'll make sure he gets it resolved when he gets back though |
| 02:32.23 | Parnic | lol, nice :) |
| 02:32.39 | Parnic | somehow pitbull is still working properly...i'm guessing it uses fontstrings instead of just calling Evaluate |
| 02:32.48 | Parnic | i don't ever register a string and update it, just call Evaluate when i need it |
| 02:33.24 | Ellipsis | that may have something to do with it |
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| 02:34.22 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4163.0 |
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| 02:40.02 | Stanzilla | Players will no longer require an attunement quest to enter Hyjal. |
| 02:40.03 | Stanzilla | Players will no longer require an attunement quest to enter the Black Temple. |
| 02:40.06 | Stanzilla | wtf |
| 02:40.09 | KsDra | lame |
| 02:40.13 | Stanzilla | I hate you now, blizzard |
| 02:40.18 | KsDra | where'd you see that? |
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| 02:40.26 | Stanzilla | [03:34:24] <Bibi> http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4163.0 |
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| 02:41.41 | keiss | thats just BS |
| 02:42.22 | KsDra | pray its fake |
| 02:42.24 | KsDra | :P |
| 02:42.42 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 02:42.46 | Stanzilla | I so hope it's fake |
| 02:43.01 | Parnic | now my server can finally have guilds in hyjal and bt, lol |
| 02:43.15 | Parnic | not sure anyone on our server is through vashj and kael |
| 02:43.30 | KsDra | haha, seriously? |
| 02:43.35 | Parnic | yep yep |
| 02:43.43 | NivFreak | I'd believe that |
| 02:43.53 | Parnic | i transferred my 5 60's to a TBC launch day server |
| 02:43.53 | NivFreak | of course they will lift attunment |
| 02:44.00 | Parnic | not many people came to it |
| 02:44.10 | KsDra | yeah niv, i was expecting it |
| 02:44.11 | NivFreak | isn't that a lot of eggs in one basket? |
| 02:44.16 | KsDra | but id rather later...than sooner :D |
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| 02:44.33 | NivFreak | I'm actually wondering if you'll ever see attunments again |
| 02:44.38 | NivFreak | sunwell has none |
| 02:44.49 | NivFreak | all the rest of the BC ones are gone aside from kara |
| 02:44.56 | NivFreak | but the kara one doesn't require anything in a raid |
| 02:46.07 | Stanzilla | test realm downloads are out |
| 02:46.10 | kenlyric | I suspect whichever raid they release in WotLK along with naxx2 will have an attunement |
| 02:46.10 | mykx | what.. the fuck |
| 02:46.14 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enGB.html |
| 02:46.16 | mykx | are they seriously removing bt attunements |
| 02:46.19 | mykx | what a joke |
| 02:46.23 | kenlyric | attunements are how they say "go here first" |
| 02:46.39 | mykx | # Players will no longer require an attunement quest to enter the Black Temple. |
| 02:46.41 | mykx | gg casuals |
| 02:47.10 | Kivin | god forbid people should be allowed to enjoy raid content without going through leaps and bounds first |
| 02:47.28 | NivFreak | these patch notes look legit to me |
| 02:47.37 | keiss | unfortunately |
| 02:47.40 | NivFreak | mykx: of course they are, new high end content is out |
| 02:47.50 | mykx | Kivin: it's really stupid that people actually do the attunements so bad guilds can farm supremus and shade of akama |
| 02:48.07 | NivFreak | why cry about it |
| 02:48.12 | mykx | it just annoys me |
| 02:48.16 | NivFreak | you won't need to do SSC/TK at all anymore |
| 02:48.18 | NivFreak | to get replacement |
| 02:48.19 | NivFreak | s |
| 02:48.29 | Kivin | It's a game... the less crap you have to go through to get to the end content, the better |
| 02:48.31 | Kivin | relax |
| 02:48.37 | NivFreak | the bads still won't get past the first 3 bosses |
| 02:48.48 | mykx | HI I have full kz epics can I join ur bt farm guildz? pfft fuck that |
| 02:48.51 | NivFreak | your e-pen will be fine |
| 02:48.57 | NivFreak | peen |
| 02:49.05 | keiss | NivFreak: yeah thats true ... it'll help some guilds that are struggling on kaelthas / vashj ... |
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| 02:49.11 | NivFreak | yep |
| 02:49.17 | mykx | NivFreak: were you that warlock I was talking to last week in regards to a few bt fights ? |
| 02:49.32 | NivFreak | no |
| 02:49.36 | NivFreak | I have no warlocks |
| 02:49.38 | Aeyan | Seriously, they need to remove those notes from that site |
| 02:49.46 | Aeyan | They are incredibly fake, hehe |
| 02:49.46 | NivFreak | but really, who cares |
| 02:49.54 | NivFreak | any guild worth a damn has been farming BT for months |
| 02:49.55 | NivFreak | :P |
| 02:50.05 | keiss | years ... |
| 02:50.23 | NivFreak | now you have to gear up replacements to run sunwell |
| 02:50.36 | NivFreak | so wait, you have to go back to SSC/TK to get people keyed to get tier6 gera? |
| 02:50.46 | mykx | I hope they patch notes are fake.. removing raid wide ISB is dumb |
| 02:50.57 | NivFreak | yea, that's odd |
| 02:51.05 | NivFreak | but these look pretty legit |
| 02:51.13 | Stanzilla | download the ptr and check for yourself |
| 02:51.21 | Stanzilla | walk to bt and try to get in^^ |
| 02:51.29 | NivFreak | it's not up is it? |
| 02:51.31 | mykx | I could get in anyway been attuned for months lol |
| 02:51.43 | keiss | mykx: destroy ur necklace ? :D |
| 02:51.43 | Stanzilla | well so am I |
| 02:51.47 | Stanzilla | but use alts :P |
| 02:51.54 | NivFreak | now you can gear your alts up |
| 02:51.55 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 02:51.56 | mykx | hrm keiss I like my 15 minute hearthstone |
| 02:51.58 | NivFreak | while you work on sunwell |
| 02:52.06 | keiss | mykx: i mean on the PTR :D |
| 02:52.09 | mykx | yeah I can see going from ~550 spell damage spriest to full t6 because of removing attuenments lol |
| 02:52.18 | NivFreak | your alt sucks :) |
| 02:52.28 | mykx | indeed but he has 2 days played at 70 |
| 02:52.40 | NivFreak | I have more than that in healing gear on my alt |
| 02:52.41 | NivFreak | ;P |
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| 02:53.02 | NivFreak | anyway, I can see bitching about no attunments at the start |
| 02:53.09 | NivFreak | but at this point, who cares |
| 02:53.13 | mykx | Players who have completed the attunement quests for Black Temple and Hyjal will be granted the title of “Hand of A’dalâ€. |
| 02:53.23 | mykx | woopdi do |
| 02:53.34 | NivFreak | it won't affect you at all |
| 02:53.39 | NivFreak | don't worry about it |
| 02:53.42 | NivFreak | well |
| 02:53.47 | NivFreak | unless you were selling vials |
| 02:53.51 | mykx | You may now fight Prince Kael’thas and Lady Vashj without first killing all the other bosses in their respective dungeons. |
| 02:53.52 | NivFreak | and now you're screwed |
| 02:53.53 | mykx | ok these are clearly fake |
| 02:53.55 | mykx | 100% |
| 02:54.22 | NivFreak | that would be odd... |
| 02:54.58 | Parnic | even after adding a fontstring to my addon, i still get the c stack overflow...this is nuts |
| 02:54.59 | NivFreak | you still need the quests to get your ring |
| 02:55.03 | NivFreak | according to these |
| 02:55.13 | CIA-10 | 03kypp * r60637 10/branches/RaidMarshal/: RaidMarshal: Development branch, current version is alpha |
| 02:55.16 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r60638 10RaidMarshal/: RaidMarshal: Development branch, current version is alpha |
| 02:55.19 | NivFreak | a mag nerf would crack me up |
| 02:55.20 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r60639 10RaidMarshal/RaidMarshal/: RaidMarshal: Development branch, current version is alpha |
| 02:55.22 | NivFreak | if that's real |
| 02:55.43 | mykx | lol no ring for people who didn't do the quest? |
| 02:55.47 | NivFreak | right |
| 02:56.09 | NivFreak | now that seems more fair :P |
| 02:56.21 | mykx | lol yeah |
| 02:56.24 | NivFreak | in fact |
| 02:56.26 | NivFreak | I like that a lot |
| 02:56.34 | NivFreak | yes you can still drag your guild of bads in |
| 02:56.40 | NivFreak | but you're not getting the really good lewts |
| 02:56.43 | mykx | supposedly these patch notes were pulled directly from the ptr files |
| 02:56.45 | mykx | that's.. hilarious |
| 02:58.01 | keiss | definitely not fake |
| 02:58.19 | mykx | I cant download the ptr to confirm/deny but meh |
| 02:58.29 | Chompers | Guess i'll be in hyjal sooner than i thought |
| 02:58.30 | keiss | iam installing the client now |
| 02:58.31 | Chompers | sweet |
| 02:58.35 | Arrowmaster | bibi needs to fix his website to use utf8 instead of ISO-8859-1 |
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| 02:59.18 | mykx | Chompers yeah you can just zone in with your leo guild apparently |
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| 02:59.21 | mykx | no offence |
| 02:59.24 | Diao | i'm already dling the ptr |
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| 02:59.33 | Diao | just started like 10 sec ago |
| 02:59.35 | Diao | halfway done now |
| 02:59.39 | Arrowmaster | linky |
| 02:59.42 | Diao | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enUS.html |
| 02:59.55 | mykx | thanks |
| 03:00.01 | mykx | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 03:00.10 | mykx | I thought I was reading a comedy script ^ |
| 03:00.42 | Bruners | is there a command i can type to stop a playing mp3 in wow? |
| 03:01.34 | Arrowmaster | so im 20% done now |
| 03:01.41 | Arrowmaster | from clicking diao's link |
| 03:01.48 | keiss | EU PTRs arent up yet |
| 03:01.53 | Arrowmaster | 30% |
| 03:01.53 | Chompers | kael guild mykx |
| 03:02.00 | Antiarc|Laptop | Players will no longer require an attunement quest to enter Hyjal. Players will no longer require an attunement quest to enter the Black Temple. |
| 03:02.03 | Antiarc|Laptop | Holy shit. |
| 03:02.19 | mykx | yeah it's dumb |
| 03:02.26 | mykx | and they give us a pretty title for being attuned already |
| 03:02.29 | Bruners | why |
| 03:02.49 | Chompers | wiping on kael or hyjal, i know which one i'd choose |
| 03:02.51 | Arrowmaster | because some of us worked to get to where we are |
| 03:03.07 | Miyari | this is mindnumbing |
| 03:03.07 | mykx | ^^ |
| 03:03.07 | keiss | Chompers: well hyjal is easier then kael so .. :) |
| 03:03.12 | Chompers | perfect |
| 03:03.16 | Bruners | meh, only illidan left so i dont really care |
| 03:03.17 | keiss | than* |
| 03:03.29 | mykx | ok so they nerf the crap out of kael. then make it so you dont even need to kill him. then make it so you can zone into TK and kill him with a fresh instance |
| 03:03.33 | mykx | that makes no sense :P |
| 03:03.54 | kd3 | PTR client's available. waiting on pastey to respond to me throwing 450K at it so I can post the interface diff |
| 03:04.31 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 03:04.37 | RaydenUni | some of the guys in gruul's aren't keyed for kara |
| 03:05.08 | Parnic | arrrgh...i can't fix my addon until DogTag is fixed :( :( |
| 03:05.18 | Parnic | adding a fontstring doesn't work, evaluating manually doesn't work... |
| 03:05.34 | Chompers | hoping the gear from hyjal and first boss in bt will make kael phase3 easier |
| 03:05.37 | Arrowmaster | 4m49s to dl ptr patch |
| 03:06.16 | Civrock | Character Copy needs to stop being busy. |
| 03:06.21 | Civrock | US at least. |
| 03:06.27 | keiss | same EU |
| 03:06.47 | keiss | but , are the US PTRs up ? |
| 03:06.58 | mykx | apparently yeah |
| 03:07.03 | mykx | but its so busy gl copying your char |
| 03:07.06 | Arrowmaster | you would think after this happening EVERY PTR that they would do something about it |
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| 03:08.23 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r60640 10RaidMarshal/RaidMarshal/ (55 files in 17 dirs): RaidMarshal: Development branch, current version is alpha |
| 03:09.18 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 03:09.25 | RaydenUni | we went to running gruul to not having enough for kara |
| 03:09.38 | CIA-10 | 03batrick * r60641 10Spellcraft/ (20 files in 2 dirs): Spellcraft: Updated to v1.112 |
| 03:11.50 | Arrowmaster | this is funny |
| 03:11.51 | Arrowmaster | Many gameplay elements of the encounters in Magtheridon’s Lair have been changed to decrease their overall complexity and difficulty. |
| 03:12.02 | Arrowmaster | so it sounds like they didnt nerf the encounter per say |
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| 03:12.35 | Arrowmaster | but they probably made it so its not an insta wipe or something if people cant fucking click boxes |
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| 03:13.11 | keiss | fishing dailies , at least something nice ... :) |
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| 03:16.40 | Arrowmaster | i see no us ptr up |
| 03:17.04 | keiss | # The Vials of Eternity quest is no longer necessary for entry to Hyjal. This quest is still required for faction rings. ... at least something |
| 03:17.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah atleast you still have to work to get the sweet rings |
| 03:18.26 | HIghoS | Wait what *sighs and scrolls up* |
| 03:19.47 | Stanzilla | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=459D03D2995D17BA340BF956582F2D65?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=15 |
| 03:19.50 | HIghoS | Man. |
| 03:19.53 | Stanzilla | HOWTO: Add new categories of options |
| 03:20.05 | HIghoS | Why do we keep finishing attunments and then they remove them, lol |
| 03:20.22 | HIghoS | (We just killed Kael a few weeks ago. So we're "Months Behind" but even so..) |
| 03:20.40 | keiss | we u still have time until this hits live so .. |
| 03:21.05 | HIghoS | Oh, I know. It's just kinda annoying because we might still be forced to run the odd SSC now to get someone their damn vial in between now and then. |
| 03:21.10 | Arrowmaster | we killed archimonde for the first time right at the end of january but still do ssc/tk to attune people |
| 03:21.34 | Arrowmaster | but by the time 2.4 comes out we shouldnt have anybody left to attune |
| 03:21.34 | keiss | yeah so do we and its actually getting annoying ... |
| 03:21.45 | HIghoS | This kinda makes me laugh though. Imma enjoy all the guilds that wipe on MH trash because they couldn't figure out howto do Vash and kael. |
| 03:22.33 | deadlock | I just put reczone, on. I'm getting an interface/addons/fubar_reczone/reczone.lua:3: cannot find a library instance of Jostle-2.0 |
| 03:24.22 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 03:24.24 | Arrowmaster | omg |
| 03:24.27 | CIA-10 | 03parnic * r60642 10IceHUD/modules/ (6 files): |
| 03:24.27 | CIA-10 | IceHUD: |
| 03:24.27 | CIA-10 | - temporarily removing DogTag code so that Pitbull and IceHUD can play together in harmony until DogTag is fixed |
| 03:24.33 | Arrowmaster | they added support for textures in font strings |
| 03:24.39 | Arrowmaster | and stuff like {skull} |
| 03:25.05 | Arrowmaster | i remember them saying that gms will now have a gm icon next to their name in chat instead of <GM> |
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| 03:25.42 | Arrowmaster | going to laugh if somebody figures out how to spoof it |
| 03:26.49 | Bruners | link to patch notes? |
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| 03:27.54 | HIghoS | OMG. |
| 03:28.01 | HIghoS | You can now directly go to Kael or Vash. |
| 03:28.03 | HIghoS | WIN. |
| 03:28.10 | RaydenUni | as opposed to? |
| 03:28.16 | HIghoS | having to kill them all? |
| 03:28.17 | keiss | well u dont even need them now .. |
| 03:28.37 | keiss | now = 2.4 ... |
| 03:28.46 | HIghoS | Ok, we've killed rage and anetheron in MH but that's it. |
| 03:28.47 | Xinhuan | what do you mean "directly go to kael or vashj"? |
| 03:28.52 | HIghoS | We'd still prefer to farm Vashj and Kael |
| 03:29.03 | HIghoS | but we waste a lot of time having to clear 5/6 SSC all week. That's how i'm looking at it. |
| 03:29.09 | keiss | Xinhuan: you dont have to clear other bosses to gain access to them |
| 03:29.13 | HIghoS | ^ |
| 03:29.17 | Xinhuan | conditions? |
| 03:29.19 | RaydenUni | really? |
| 03:29.23 | RaydenUni | what changed? |
| 03:29.27 | RaydenUni | that doesn't seem balanced |
| 03:30.09 | Arrowmaster | what changed? theyre making pve more ezmode since nobody does it |
| 03:30.14 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 03:30.14 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 03:30.53 | RaydenUni | yeah but making it so end bosses can be done directly without doing previous bosses seems weird |
| 03:31.02 | Lukian | awww Kemayo, Blizzard stole your addon |
| 03:31.05 | Lukian | "The friends list now has a notes field per friend. Click on the note icon to add a note for a particular friend." |
| 03:31.29 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 03:31.31 | RaydenUni | bugger |
| 03:31.33 | Kivin | I'm more interested in ignore list notes than friendlist |
| 03:31.37 | RaydenUni | will have to reenter all my info |
| 03:31.43 | Xinhuan | wow |
| 03:31.55 | Arrowmaster | how god damn long has the zip file been corrupted for the framexml extractor? |
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| 03:31.58 | Xinhuan | that just killed my addon, Friend Notes ;d |
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| 03:33.22 | RaydenUni | sweet |
| 03:33.27 | Lukian | AuldLangSyne is win ^_^ |
| 03:33.33 | RaydenUni | for the ZF lfg there are 3 rogues, 2 mages, and a feral druid |
| 03:33.38 | RaydenUni | winning group |
| 03:34.21 | buu | RaydenUni: Bandage spec rogue |
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| 03:34.56 | Arrowmaster | was somebody going to post the ui diff? |
| 03:35.04 | RaydenUni | why is this 70 rogue killing me over and over in gadgetzan? |
| 03:35.11 | RaydenUni | i guess she must be naked |
| 03:35.12 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.3.3.7799-0.4.0.7897.diff |
| 03:35.25 | Arrowmaster | already got it |
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| 03:40.28 | CIA-10 | 03ackis * r60643 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 03:40.28 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:40.28 | CIA-10 | -Added 2 new cooking recipes for 2.4 |
| 03:40.32 | keiss | those sunwell weapons look nice, especially compared to the ZA crap |
| 03:41.03 | RaydenUni | the guards in gadget are too low |
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| 03:42.20 | CIA-10 | 03ackis * r60644 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:42.20 | CIA-10 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:42.20 | CIA-10 | - Added 2.4 recipes |
| 03:44.52 | CIA-10 | 03ackis * r60645 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 03:44.52 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:44.52 | CIA-10 | - frFR update thanks to Sublima from Curse |
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| 03:46.17 | keiss | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493399642 |
| 03:46.51 | Arrowmaster | AH has price per unit info now |
| 03:47.15 | Lukian | ooo nice |
| 03:47.19 | Lukian | (about time) |
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| 03:49.14 | RaydenUni | yeah |
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| 03:51.28 | Xinhuan | wow |
| 03:51.32 | Xinhuan | patch 2.4 is too much to absorb |
| 03:52.07 | Keias | more mage changes imo |
| 03:52.12 | Arrowmaster | NO DAMNIT |
| 03:52.19 | Diao | lol |
| 03:52.28 | Arrowmaster | they fucked up the battlefieldminimap again |
| 03:52.32 | Diao | o_O |
| 03:52.33 | Diao | how so |
| 03:52.43 | Diao | such a joke |
| 03:52.47 | Diao | druids getting pvp buffs again |
| 03:52.49 | Diao | (resto) |
| 03:53.05 | Arrowmaster | local _, instanceType = IsInInstance(); |
| 03:53.06 | Arrowmaster | if ( instanceType == "pvp" ) then |
| 03:53.08 | Arrowmaster | to |
| 03:53.17 | Arrowmaster | if ( ( ( MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status == "active" ) or ( GetNumWorldStateUI() > 0 ) ) and ( not IsActiveBattlefieldArena() ) ) then |
| 03:54.00 | Xinhuan | what Arrowmaster? |
| 03:54.53 | Arrowmaster | ptr has a battlefieldminimap thats checking MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status again |
| 03:54.56 | Arrowmaster | which it shouldnt |
| 03:55.07 | Arrowmaster | because thats bad |
| 03:55.09 | Xinhuan | there must be a reason for it |
| 03:55.19 | Arrowmaster | reason is probably their shitty fucking SCM |
| 03:57.09 | JoshBorke | i have reviewed the new configuration options and i have been disappointed |
| 03:58.08 | Xinhuan | what does it allow JoshBorke? |
| 03:58.10 | JoshBorke | it allows you to place a configuration frame alongside the configuration panels for modifying the default UI |
| 03:58.20 | JoshBorke | so to me that sounds like you get to make new tabs |
| 03:58.39 | Arrowmaster | looking closer at Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap.lua, i am agreeing even more that an older version got included |
| 03:59.08 | Stanzilla | http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4552/loadscreensunwellai4.jpg |
| 03:59.12 | JoshBorke | i'm too lazy to read it all through, but it sounds like teh interface options page got a big over-haul |
| 03:59.33 | JoshBorke | as in you'll select categories on the left and a new frame will show on the right |
| 03:59.38 | JoshBorke | and a category can be an addon |
| 04:00.03 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 04:00.05 | JoshBorke | well |
| 04:00.18 | Nargiddley | looks like you just register a frame with a few functions |
| 04:00.27 | JoshBorke | i need to check |
| 04:00.32 | JoshBorke | but maybe it'll work out |
| 04:00.44 | mykx | has anybody been able to copy their character ? |
| 04:00.55 | keiss | disabled on EU atm |
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| 04:01.29 | mykx | mmo-champion compiled a list of the new weapons I guess pulled from the ptr files: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/sunwellweapons_3000.jpg |
| 04:01.34 | vithos | aha, they are changing WoWCombatLog.txt format after all |
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| 04:03.03 | Arrowmaster | vithos: old news |
| 04:03.11 | JoshBorke | ah, that's it |
| 04:03.18 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: what ptr version did you make that diff from? |
| 04:03.20 | JoshBorke | the interface options because a uipanel |
| 04:03.47 | Xinhuan | more specifically, what does the uipanel allow? |
| 04:04.00 | Xinhuan | standard sliders, buttons, checkboxes, dropdowns or what? |
| 04:04.00 | Nargiddley | you can register categories and sub categories |
| 04:04.04 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: I didn't make it myself.. <ScytheBlade1> http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.3.3.7799-0.4.0.7897.diff (also .gz) |
| 04:04.07 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: whatever you want |
| 04:04.11 | Nargiddley | which seem to be just a frame with okay, cancel and defaults functions |
| 04:04.13 | JoshBorke | ok, i think i've got it |
| 04:04.16 | Nargiddley | put whatever you want yourself in |
| 04:04.22 | Nargiddley | from reading the comments |
| 04:04.23 | Xinhuan | oh so my own widgets? |
| 04:04.29 | JoshBorke | i think i understand it now |
| 04:04.32 | Xinhuan | but a panel in their UI? |
| 04:04.39 | JoshBorke | I tihnk they are modeling it after OptionHouse |
| 04:04.47 | Nargiddley | dunno what it'll look like |
| 04:04.59 | JoshBorke | check out the DisplayFrame function Nargiddly |
| 04:05.19 | JoshBorke | the frame you registered is anchored within some InterfaceOptionsFramePanelContainer |
| 04:05.23 | Xinhuan | i'm wondering if its possible to build a library to translate aceopt tables into the blizzard format |
| 04:05.29 | Nargiddley | wonder how big it'll be |
| 04:05.32 | JoshBorke | you can optionally register Ok, Defaults, and Cancel functions |
| 04:05.47 | Nargiddley | Xinhuan, depending on size |
| 04:05.51 | Xinhuan | think you're up for the challenge? hehe |
| 04:05.54 | JoshBorke | which to me sounds like a perfect use of the 3 buttons like in OptionHouse |
| 04:06.04 | JoshBorke | why go to all that trouble? |
| 04:06.05 | Nargiddley | just give a container widget as the frame, and done :P |
| 04:06.16 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 04:06.19 | Xinhuan | that's a possibility |
| 04:06.20 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: just regisetr the AceConfigGui frame to the inf |
| 04:06.21 | Xinhuan | but i can't opy to ptr |
| 04:06.23 | Nargiddley | cancel and defaults wouldnt do anything, but meh |
| 04:06.26 | JoshBorke | erm, interface options |
| 04:06.35 | Xinhuan | interesting |
| 04:06.47 | JoshBorke | and you're done |
| 04:06.49 | JoshBorke | imo |
| 04:06.53 | Nargiddley | have to figure out how to get dynamic frames working with it, but sounds doable |
| 04:06.57 | Nargiddley | but |
| 04:07.07 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't be too hard |
| 04:07.22 | JoshBorke | +-- +--local panel = CreateFrame("FRAME", "ExampleSubCategory"); +--panel.name = "My SubCategory"; +--panel.parent = "My AddOn"; +-- +--InterfaceOptions_AddCategory(panel); |
| 04:07.23 | Nargiddley | if its a small window might not work for big configs tho |
| 04:07.37 | JoshBorke | i think it will be a lot like OptionHouse |
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| 04:09.35 | JoshBorke | the container frame isn't defined in the diff |
| 04:09.53 | Nargiddley | at the very least I can put an Ace3 category that can open all registered configs |
| 04:10.06 | JoshBorke | +-- Yay for magic numbers. 404 is the normal height of InterfaceOptionsFrameCategory (250) + the normal height of InterfaceOptionsFrameAddOns (135) + the offset between the two (24 at the time of this comment) +INTERFACEOPTIONS_MAXCATEGORYHEIGHT = 409; +INTERFACEOPTIONS_DEFAULTCATEGORYHEIGHT = 250; |
| 04:10.23 | JoshBorke | hm, that's height |
| 04:11.03 | JoshBorke | lol, --Yay for playing sounds |
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| 04:12.08 | Xinhuan | so.. |
| 04:12.16 | Stanzilla | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/kiljaeden.jpg < me likes |
| 04:13.02 | JoshBorke | you add a category and it must contain a name |
| 04:13.29 | JoshBorke | you call InterfaceOptions_AddCategory(<frame>) and <frame>.name must be a string |
| 04:13.42 | JoshBorke | the name is what is displayed to the user to correspond to the frame |
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| 04:14.15 | JoshBorke | when the user clicks on the name through some selection mechanism (appears to be a scrollable list) then the frame is: +frame:SetParent(InterfaceOptionsFramePanelContainer); +frame:ClearAllPoints(); +frame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", InterfaceOptionsFramePanelContainer, "TOPLEFT"); +frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", InterfaceOptionsFramePanelContainer, "BOTTOMRIGHT"); +frame:Show(); |
| 04:14.48 | Arrowmaster | oh boy, tons of stuff has gotten back into the 0.4.0 ui that shouldnt be there |
| 04:15.11 | Arrowmaster | i found stuff using TEXT() again |
| 04:15.13 | JoshBorke | has anyone wrapped their heads around the new combatlog stuff? |
| 04:16.00 | Xinhuan | post about it, or tell iriel, Arrowmaster |
| 04:16.14 | Arrowmaster | i already posted but now ive found more |
| 04:19.17 | Arrowmaster | *sigh* |
| 04:19.32 | Arrowmaster | toc file calling an xml then a lua |
| 04:19.40 | Arrowmaster | the xml calls 2 luas |
| 04:19.54 | Arrowmaster | one calles Localization.lua the other calls localization.lua |
| 04:21.07 | Xinhuan | well seeing as 2.4 isn't actually live yet |
| 04:21.09 | kagaro | anyone have a mirror for the mac of teh ptr client? |
| 04:21.23 | Xinhuan | i mean there are not 2.4 servers up yet |
| 04:21.31 | Xinhuan | so |
| 04:21.39 | Xinhuan | there will probably be a patch |
| 04:22.02 | Stanzilla | kagaro: http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897-enUS-patch.app.tar |
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| 04:22.35 | kagaro | Stanzilla: thanks |
| 04:23.14 | Xinhuan | or you can get |
| 04:23.22 | Xinhuan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enUS.html |
| 04:23.26 | Xinhuan | for a direct enUS download link |
| 04:23.42 | Civrock | Just replace /pc/ with /mac/. :P |
| 04:23.57 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SOURCE_UNIT = "|Hunit:$sourceGUID:$sourceName|h$sourceNameString|h"; |
| 04:23.59 | Arrowmaster | interesting |
| 04:26.34 | Xinhuan | hmm i fell asleep yesterday |
| 04:26.39 | Xinhuan | wonder if i broke 500 days /played |
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| 04:33.25 | Arrowmaster | theres a downside to gsub right? |
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| 04:33.44 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r60646 10RaidMarshal/RaidMarshal/ (RMBrowser.xml RaidMarshal.lua): RaidMarshal: Built out raid invite table (online broken out by category) |
| 04:35.45 | Xinhuan | well gsub() is a bit slower than format(), that's about it maybe? |
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| 04:36.10 | Xinhuan | but the gsub() approach is locale independant |
| 04:36.20 | Xinhuan | format() isn't |
| 04:36.39 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was one of the functions that if you used it enough youd get un recyclable memory usage? |
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| 04:37.33 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 04:37.46 | Xinhuan | where did you get that from |
| 04:38.05 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue |
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| 04:38.41 | Arrowmaster | ok somebody is going to have to make a combatlog replacement |
| 04:38.54 | Arrowmaster | because im sure as hell not wanting to use the new one now that ive seen the code |
| 04:39.04 | Xinhuan | you're still forced to load it |
| 04:39.11 | Xinhuan | since itspart of default ui |
| 04:39.20 | Xinhuan | unless its in a LoD blizzard addon? |
| 04:39.30 | Arrowmaster | lod blizzard addon |
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| 04:42.02 | Xinhuan | who wrotw simplecombatlog btw? |
| 04:43.43 | ulic | Rophy |
| 04:43.46 | ulic | so says about |
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| 04:43.56 | Xinhuan | maybe he'll update it |
| 04:45.07 | Arrowmaster | local player, note = strmatch(msg, "%s*([^%s]+)%s*(.*)"); |
| 04:45.10 | Arrowmaster | ...... |
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| 04:46.43 | Xinhuan | looks valid for a slash command |
| 04:47.00 | Arrowmaster | SlashCmdList["ENABLE_ADDONS"] = function(msg) EnableAllAddOns(); ReloadUI(); end |
| 04:47.01 | Xinhuan | /setplayernote Xinhuan he is a great guy |
| 04:47.09 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 04:47.25 | Arrowmaster | SlashCmdList["DISABLE_ADDONS"] = function(msg) DisableAllAddOns(); ReloadUI(); end |
| 04:47.50 | Xinhuan | hah, finally a way for a GM to tell the user |
| 04:48.05 | Xinhuan | PRESS ESC, go to this option, click "DISABLE ALL ADDONS" button |
| 04:48.10 | Xinhuan | and see if the issue occurs again |
| 04:48.13 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:48.37 | Arrowmaster | no its a slash command now! |
| 04:48.51 | Arrowmaster | that auto reloads ui |
| 04:49.10 | Xinhuan | even better, <GM> whispers: please type /disableaddons and see if you can reproduce the issue! |
| 04:49.11 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 04:49.41 | Arrowmaster | pff |
| 04:49.59 | Xinhuan | that beats the standard "delete your Interface and WTF folder" |
| 04:50.15 | Xinhuan | because that would at least do the same thing |
| 04:50.30 | Arrowmaster | if ( arg6 == "GM" ) then --Add Blizzard Icon, this was sent by a GM; pflag = "|TInterface\\ChatFrame\\UI-ChatIcon-Blizz.blp:18:12:0:-1|t "; elsepflag = getglobal("CHAT_FLAG_"..arg6); end |
| 04:50.34 | Arrowmaster | no more <GM> |
| 04:50.55 | Xinhuan | i wonder if that's spoofable |
| 04:51.14 | Arrowmaster | they probably made |T|t disconnect you like sending colors |
| 04:51.33 | Xinhuan | so you can only send the 8 raid textures |
| 04:51.36 | Xinhuan | nothing else |
| 04:51.47 | keiss | no also stuff like spell icons |
| 04:51.59 | Xinhuan | i don't think spell icons are allowed yet? not sure |
| 04:52.06 | Arrowmaster | they added a bunch of |H|h stuff |
| 04:52.15 | keiss | was in the example somewhere on the forums |
| 04:52.21 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SOURCE_UNIT = "|Hunit:$sourceGUID:$sourceName|h$sourceNameString|h"; |
| 04:52.28 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SOURCE_ICON = "|Hicon:$iconBit:source|h$iconTexture|h"; |
| 04:52.36 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SPELL = "|Hspell:$spellId:$eventType|h$spellName|h"; |
| 04:52.43 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SPELL_EXTRA = "|Hspell:$extraSpellId:$eventType|h$extraSpellName|h"; |
| 04:52.50 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_ITEM = "|Hitem:$itemId|h$itemName|h"; |
| 04:53.03 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_ACTION = "|Haction:$eventType|h$action|h"; |
| 04:53.18 | Arrowmaster | and those are for the combat log! |
| 04:53.42 | Arrowmaster | im still looking for what parses those |
| 04:54.51 | Arrowmaster | quick somebody check if GetNumLaguages() is a valid function in 2.3.3 |
| 04:55.31 | keiss | "... (a nil value)" |
| 04:58.12 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 04:58.35 | Silowyi | !c us whisperwind glofindalle |
| 04:58.38 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Glofindalle, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7694 HP; 9095 Mana; 359 mana regen; 156 mp5; 3.16% melee crit; 517 +spell dmg; 1527 +heal; 5.25% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 938 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yxppm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2taful ][ Updated: Sat Feb 9 00:07:35 2008 EST ]] |
| 04:58.43 | Arrowmaster | wtf calls LanguageMenu_OnLoad() then? |
| 04:58.49 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60647 10/branches/Checklist2/: |
| 04:58.49 | CIA-10 | Checklist2: |
| 04:58.49 | CIA-10 | - Removed folder - reorganizing my stuff |
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| 05:08.49 | Parnic | !c us {blade's edge} verdris |
| 05:08.49 | ThraeBot | Parnic: verdris is not the character you are looking for! |
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| 05:08.58 | Parnic | !c us blade's edge verdris |
| 05:09.00 | ThraeBot | Parnic: Verdris, Level 70 Human Priest (23/38/0). 5891 HP; 8835 Mana; 356 mana regen; 178 mp5; 4 spell crit; 643 +spell dmg; 1737 +heal; 4.94% dodge; 27 resilience;[[ TBR: 873 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yott2m ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2k6j7l ][ Updated: Sat Feb 9 00:17:57 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:14.52 | Xinhuan | Warsong Gulch |
| 05:14.53 | Xinhuan | * When both flags are held, the flag carriers will receive 50% increased damage done to them after approximately 10 minutes and 100% increased damage after approximately 15 minutes. |
| 05:15.16 | Xinhuan | can't you just reset it by passing the flag to someone else |
| 05:15.40 | Kivin | wow o_o |
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| 05:18.53 | Arrowmaster | lets hope they made it count from when the flags were no longer in the reset state |
| 05:19.11 | keiss | wouldnt make much sense otherwise |
| 05:20.52 | Arrowmaster | coinframe bug is back in 0.4.0 |
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| 05:25.02 | Xinhuan | coin frame bug? |
| 05:25.09 | Arrowmaster | the one with moving |
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| 05:26.53 | keiss | legendary bow info up |
| 05:27.26 | Funkeh` | ptr download up, are the servers? |
| 05:27.34 | keiss | no |
| 05:27.55 | keiss | btw they just reenabled char copy on EU |
| 05:28.10 | Funkeh` | already done |
| 05:28.27 | Funkeh` | as in like, 3 seconds ago ;p |
| 05:28.33 | keiss | was disabled not long ago |
| 05:28.42 | Funkeh` | hm |
| 05:29.44 | Civrock | WTB US Character Copy |
| 05:29.52 | Civrock | And some more 2.4 item stats. |
| 05:30.13 | Funkeh` | 'The Raid UI now can display the range of players relative to you. The option to enable this is in the Party & Raid section of the UI Options.' I wonder if that uses fading |
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| 05:33.03 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: SetAlpha |
| 05:33.21 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, so that's basically a yes ;p |
| 05:33.34 | Xinhuan | who uses blizz raid ui |
| 05:33.51 | Funkeh` | I do on occasion |
| 05:34.57 | Xinhuan | purpose? |
| 05:35.21 | Funkeh` | Too lazy to log off my new alt and enable pr |
| 05:35.34 | Xinhuan | what does it provide over standard raid frames addons, apart from conveniently adding an extra pullout-able frame at will |
| 05:35.56 | Funkeh` | add? uh, nothing |
| 05:36.07 | Xinhuan | sigh login queue |
| 05:37.55 | Arrowmaster | anybody know if GetLootSlotInfo() works when autolooting? |
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| 05:43.55 | Xinhuan | yes i think it works |
| 05:44.28 | Xinhuan | use it with LOOT_OPENED and you'll get everything |
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| 05:48.26 | Recluse | oh noes cannot access pastey.net XD |
| 05:48.35 | Kivin | pastebin |
| 05:48.52 | Parnic | is anyone else having C stack overflow bugs with LibDogTag today? |
| 05:49.04 | Parnic | I'm trying to figure out why Pitbull seems to be working when my addon isn't...same dogtag lib version |
| 05:49.15 | Parnic | only diff is that pitbull uses Rock and i'm using Ace2 |
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| 05:52.03 | RaydenUni | hey |
| 05:52.06 | RaydenUni | last boss in ST |
| 05:52.08 | RaydenUni | do you jump down? |
| 05:52.21 | Funkeh` | no, you will die |
| 05:52.33 | RaydenUni | so you gotta walk? |
| 05:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | last boss in st? eranikus? |
| 05:52.56 | Funkeh` | if you're talking about the jump into the watery stuff, yeah, walk |
| 05:53.00 | RaydenUni | nothe one down in the water |
| 05:53.08 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 who does that last? |
| 05:53.11 | Ellipsis | no no no, soulstone your rezzer and *then* jump down |
| 05:53.19 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 05:53.35 | RaydenUni | i've always done him last |
| 05:53.39 | keiss | yeah u can jump down (even thou hes not technically the last one?) |
| 05:53.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i usually do him first. |
| 05:54.15 | Wobin | I enjoy putting up a portal, and aggroing eranikus when there's still trash |
| 05:54.22 | Wobin | the ensuing wave of mobs is most amusing |
| 05:55.26 | RaydenUni | putting up a portal? |
| 05:56.10 | Funkeh` | I guess he's a mage :> |
| 05:56.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you don't know that, i mean, maybe he has atiesh and is sending hapless level 50's to their doom in kara |
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| 05:58.04 | Funkeh` | If he had atiesh, why would he be in ST? ;p |
| 05:58.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: obviously, to pull eranikus with the trash up and open a portal, sending hapless level 50's to their doom in kara. |
| 06:00.16 | Funkeh` | Gah givf vista sp1 already, thought it was going to be this week. |
| 06:02.03 | RaydenUni | man |
| 06:02.07 | RaydenUni | activating the dragons sucks |
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| 06:02.13 | EvilJohn | man, we got Kael down tonight, first time kill |
| 06:02.31 | RaydenUni | grats |
| 06:02.33 | NightHawkTheSane | grats |
| 06:02.37 | EvilJohn | thanks |
| 06:02.38 | Funkeh` | grats |
| 06:02.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i love that fight |
| 06:02.49 | EvilJohn | they need an emote for 'passing out with a huge sigh of relief' |
| 06:03.24 | Funkeh` | I got that raptor dude in stv down with my gf last night, was quite the rush! |
| 06:03.32 | EvilJohn | grats! |
| 06:03.39 | Funkeh` | :> |
| 06:04.10 | Funkeh` | nice new leather chest for the druid. |
| 06:04.31 | EvilJohn | i really enjoyed playing with my gf |
| 06:04.47 | Funkeh` | It rocks |
| 06:04.47 | EvilJohn | two people can realy blow through a lot of quests |
| 06:04.59 | Funkeh` | yeah i hate solo, detest it even. |
| 06:05.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i like soloing, if the alternative is the unwashed masses |
| 06:05.41 | NightHawkTheSane | but questing with a friend is always preferred |
| 06:05.42 | Funkeh` | I prefer the social aspect of it, completing it in a group, mucking around having a laugh etc |
| 06:06.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, I just hate other people. :) |
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| 06:06.45 | Funkeh` | Understandable, I always love joining a pug with her, we have a good laugh over the amount of people who join/leave in 1 sm run |
| 06:06.45 | RaydenUni | i dont' quest with others unless i happen to find someone inthe same area |
| 06:06.54 | Funkeh` | bet time/dogs/homework whatever |
| 06:06.58 | Funkeh` | bed* |
| 06:07.04 | RaydenUni | cause the kill x of this go way faster with someone |
| 06:07.08 | RaydenUni | collect x is debatable |
| 06:07.31 | Funkeh` | I hate collect x with a apssion. |
| 06:07.46 | Funkeh` | Spent maybe an hour or more last nigth in stv doing the troll colecting quests. |
| 06:07.50 | EvilJohn | yeah |
| 06:07.53 | EvilJohn | it's lame |
| 06:08.03 | EvilJohn | if you want me to kill 50 of these things, tell me to kill 50 |
| 06:08.08 | EvilJohn | don't give me some lame drop rate |
| 06:08.39 | EvilJohn | don't tell me that 10% of murlocs have eyes |
| 06:08.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont mind the collection quests, i just mind drop rates that are sub 50-60% |
| 06:08.55 | EvilJohn | and don't feed me that line about "in combat they got damaged and couldn't be used" |
| 06:08.55 | RaydenUni | should i even bother training tiger's fury? |
| 06:09.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 06:09.05 | EvilJohn | if I know I want eyes, I'll only stab them in the heart, dammit |
| 06:09.06 | Funkeh` | Yeah well thats what makes you hate them, bad droprates. |
| 06:09.08 | RaydenUni | what good is it for? |
| 06:09.18 | NightHawkTheSane | tf->ravage-> |
| 06:09.21 | NightHawkTheSane | claw/mangle |
| 06:09.36 | RaydenUni | drop quests are better than escorts |
| 06:09.41 | NightHawkTheSane | the damage it adds is multiplied as if it were weapon damage |
| 06:09.43 | RaydenUni | but drop quests also suck because of bag space |
| 06:09.46 | EvilJohn | big opening hit, but really not hat useful outside of that |
| 06:09.50 | RaydenUni | oh really, its multiplied? |
| 06:10.00 | Funkeh` | tiges fury.. I rarely use it, sometimes on openes. say you're in stealth you can use it and open up with a move since you can regen the energy anyway |
| 06:10.11 | Funkeh` | openers* |
| 06:10.23 | EvilJohn | yeah, it uses energy you needed for the finishing move, so it's not genreally worth it at the end |
| 06:10.24 | NightHawkTheSane | a tf->ravage crit will add a lot more damage than just what the tooltip states, due to multipliers |
| 06:10.28 | RaydenUni | so dmg is ~100 and fury is 30, so that would be 385% of 130? |
| 06:10.54 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 06:11.19 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, you keeping track with atlantis? |
| 06:11.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: yup |
| 06:11.42 | Arrowmaster | NEWBIE_TOOLTIP_UNIT_OPT_OUT_LOOT = "If enabled, you will only be able to receive loot by looting quest items, looting items that everyone passes on, or being given loot by the master looter."; |
| 06:11.45 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, wtf at climing up the side of a city |
| 06:12.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: haha, yeah, that was a bit absurd :P |
| 06:12.55 | Arrowmaster | OPTION_TOOLTIP_DISPLAY_FREE_BAG_SLOTS = "Displays remaining inventory space on the backpack icon."; |
| 06:13.10 | Funkeh` | Yeah I look forward to that |
| 06:13.24 | Funkeh` | I can try wear off the addiction of opening my bags |
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| 06:17.27 | Arrowmaster | SLASH_GUILD_LEADER_REPLACE = "/greplace"; -- Replace inactive guild leader |
| 06:17.35 | keiss | hehe |
| 06:17.41 | CIA-10 | 03funkydude * r60648 10/branches/Transcriptor/: Transcriptor: create folder |
| 06:18.21 | Arrowmaster | SPELL_FAILED_NOT_IN_BATTLEGROUND = "You can't do that in a battleground."; |
| 06:18.33 | Arrowmaster | hmm i wonder what we cant do in battlegrounds |
| 06:18.44 | Arrowmaster | oh wait, summoning...... |
| 06:19.14 | Arrowmaster | SPELL_FAILED_ONLY_IN_ARENA = "You can only do that in an arena."; |
| 06:19.15 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 06:19.43 | Funkeh` | something to do with the new buff probbly |
| 06:22.13 | CIA-10 | 03funkydude 072.4 * r60649 10Transcriptor/: Transcriptor: branch for 2.4 dev work sometime |
| 06:22.35 | kagaro | night |
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| 06:24.29 | keiss | "BT-quality badges loot will be available from vendors in Sunwell" ... |
| 06:25.29 | Xinhuan | time to rename this game |
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| 06:25.29 | Xinhuan | to |
| 06:25.32 | Xinhuan | World of CasualCraft |
| 06:25.52 | Arrowmaster | seriously |
| 06:25.55 | Arrowmaster | this is getting lame |
| 06:26.09 | Xinhuan | i suppose it makes it easier for ppl who started TBC late |
| 06:26.14 | Xinhuan | to catch back up into the raiding scene |
| 06:26.17 | Xinhuan | but still, its somewhat lame |
| 06:26.45 | keiss | well 90% > 10% ... |
| 06:26.50 | NightHawkTheSane | who the hell cares? |
| 06:26.56 | keiss | blizzard :D |
| 06:26.56 | Keias | Did they literally say that, keiss? |
| 06:27.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, so what if other people see content or get loot :P |
| 06:27.08 | keiss | no |
| 06:30.41 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, id |
| 06:30.44 | Funkeh` | idd* |
| 06:30.48 | Funkeh` | its all good |
| 06:32.58 | Funkeh` | later |
| 06:35.06 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: um, no need to rename the game |
| 06:35.14 | kenlyric | it's been casualcraft since tbc |
| 06:35.44 | Xinhuan | naxx was good, it was the epitome of raiding |
| 06:35.51 | Xinhuan | there was no attunement, yet it was hard |
| 06:35.57 | Xinhuan | as it should |
| 06:36.05 | Xinhuan | or rather, attunement was trivial |
| 06:36.11 | Nargiddley | there was attument, you could just buy your way out of it |
| 06:36.24 | Nargiddley | or if you were already exalted heh |
| 06:36.58 | Xinhuan | so 2 more guilds on my server just killed illidan |
| 06:37.00 | Xinhuan | that makes 14 |
| 06:37.27 | Nargiddley | is it really that suprising?, they have nerfed attunement for almost everything below those 2 in pervious patches |
| 06:38.02 | Xinhuan | the attunement of TK was tough hehe |
| 06:38.06 | Xinhuan | i liked it a lot |
| 06:38.08 | NightHawkTheSane | it is slightly, given that the hyjal/bt attunement wasn't nearly as obnoxious as the tk/ssc attunements were |
| 06:38.09 | Bruners | will there be s2 for honor now? |
| 06:38.57 | keiss | once s4 starts , yes |
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| 06:39.32 | Xinhuan | in 3 months ;p |
| 06:39.38 | Xinhuan | each season has been like 5 months in duration |
| 06:39.43 | Xinhuan | and s3 has been around 2 months now |
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| 06:40.32 | Bruners | will they remove 2000 rating req on s3 shoulders then ? |
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| 06:40.52 | Nargiddley | ooh nice, we can get on any ptr |
| 06:41.08 | Xinhuan | but none are up |
| 06:41.20 | keiss | althou the copy only works for your respective zone (so far) |
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| 06:45.04 | kenlyric | assuming copy ever works |
| 06:45.24 | keiss | works on EU atm |
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| 06:52.23 | Xinhuan | You have spent 5.3% (42.6% since release) of your life in-game, divide among 1 character(s) on 1 realm(s). |
| 06:52.37 | genetik | heh |
| 06:52.44 | Xinhuan | [Guild] [Jameson]: The other 57.4% is spent in the login queue right? |
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| 06:53.16 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
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| 06:54.04 | NightHawkTheSane | 1300ms ping: why bittorrent and wow don't mix. |
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| 07:00.59 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60650 10Checklist2/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:00.59 | CIA-10 | Checklist2: initial commit |
| 07:00.59 | CIA-10 | - A to-do list to keep track of tasks you need to do, now rewritten to include more features. |
| 07:01.51 | Quezacolt | just out of curiosity, how often do the zips at files.wowace.com get updated? |
| 07:01.59 | Kivin | ~20min |
| 07:02.09 | Xinhuan | every 1200 seconds :) |
| 07:02.32 | Bejitt | mmm cron |
| 07:02.43 | Xinhuan | ryes? |
| 07:02.46 | Xinhuan | oops |
| 07:02.53 | Kivin | Is it impossible to get heroic groups on your servers? |
| 07:03.08 | Xinhuan | no, its very easy |
| 07:03.13 | Xinhuan | nobody even does non heroic ones anymore |
| 07:03.15 | Kivin | I've spent ~8hrs in the heroic lfg queues every day for the last 3 days and haven't got a single group invite |
| 07:03.22 | Xinhuan | because badges are highly wanted |
| 07:03.58 | Kivin | A friend and I have been seriously considering transfering, but I've got 3 70s =/ |
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| 07:12.16 | CIA-10 | 03nargiddley 07RC1 * r60651 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: type = 'description' will now show .icon as an image with its text |
| 07:13.00 | Arrowmaster | going to add icons to ace3's command line output? |
| 07:13.02 | ulic | oh, RC1 |
| 07:13.33 | Nargiddley | no idea Arrowmaster |
| 07:13.43 | Nargiddley | I try to stay away from the console heh |
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| 07:14.13 | Nargiddley | thats actually the first place its shown anywhere afaik tho :D |
| 07:15.12 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley, what size is that .icon |
| 07:15.22 | Nargiddley | size of the texture for now |
| 07:15.36 | Xinhuan | you can't get the icon's texture size |
| 07:15.36 | Nargiddley | nothing in the spec to tell it a size |
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| 07:15.52 | Xinhuan | it can be 64x64 or 512x512 in photoshop and you wouldn't be able to tell |
| 07:15.55 | Xinhuan | in game |
| 07:16.20 | Nargiddley | yes you can... |
| 07:16.46 | Nargiddley | and thats what it does, set the texture and let it decide how big it is |
| 07:16.51 | Xinhuan | afaik, getwidth and getheight gets the size you set the texture object at |
| 07:16.59 | Nargiddley | I don't set it tho |
| 07:17.03 | Nargiddley | and it does get a size |
| 07:17.10 | Xinhuan | if you don't set it, isn't it an undefined size by default? |
| 07:17.19 | Nargiddley | no its the size of the texture |
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| 07:17.33 | Xinhuan | so type="description" can be used to load any image now? |
| 07:17.38 | Nargiddley | pretty much |
| 07:17.47 | Xinhuan | and with name = "" |
| 07:17.55 | Xinhuan | it would work much like type="image" ? kinda? |
| 07:18.22 | Nargiddley | It might look a bit weird as you resize it (since I move anchoring around depending) |
| 07:18.38 | Nargiddley | >200px left for the text and it sits to the left of the text |
| 07:18.46 | Nargiddley | <200px and its above |
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| 07:19.05 | Xinhuan | might make a special case if the text is an empty string |
| 07:19.10 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 07:19.33 | Xinhuan | also, still looking for the official method to scroll/open the config to a specific part of the tree :) |
| 07:19.58 | Nargiddley | still trying to decide how to do that :/ |
| 07:20.17 | Xinhuan | rockconfig's method is that the user supplies a aceopt table path |
| 07:20.20 | Nargiddley | since to open a group, you might have to select any combination of groups above it |
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| 07:20.31 | Xinhuan | and rockconfig will open each level one by one |
| 07:20.33 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 07:20.41 | Xinhuan | until it reaches the specified path |
| 07:20.48 | Nargiddley | well, a tree is different to nested tabs |
| 07:20.49 | Xinhuan | or stop if it can't find that subtree |
| 07:21.00 | Nargiddley | in the way I have to open them |
| 07:21.34 | Xinhuan | the approach is probably better if you just simulate :click() |
| 07:21.42 | Nargiddley | no |
| 07:22.15 | Nargiddley | because for one there is no :click() on a select group :P |
| 07:22.54 | Nargiddley | Its the internal workings of the status thats the problem really |
| 07:22.59 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60652 10Checklist2/ (. Core.lua DB.lua Profiles.lua): |
| 07:22.59 | CIA-10 | Checklist2: |
| 07:22.59 | CIA-10 | - Set up externals |
| 07:23.04 | Xinhuan | well, you could simulate that by running the set= i think, for a select group |
| 07:23.20 | Nargiddley | the problem is |
| 07:23.29 | Nargiddley | if you want to open 3 levels deep |
| 07:23.47 | Nargiddley | for 3 levels of tabs its select each group, then select the next |
| 07:24.12 | Nargiddley | for a tree its open the first 2, then select Group1\001Group2\001Group3 in the tree :P |
| 07:24.34 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 07:24.35 | purl | :/ |
| 07:24.48 | Nargiddley | since tabs have a selected groups |
| 07:25.04 | Nargiddley | tree has an open/closed flag for each group + what is actually selected |
| 07:25.13 | Xinhuan | you'll just have to code in something specific for each group display method i guess |
| 07:25.19 | Nargiddley | exactly |
| 07:25.22 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60653 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 07:25.22 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2: |
| 07:25.22 | CIA-10 | - koKR update(thanks turtl) |
| 07:25.36 | Nargiddley | which is why its going to be a pain and I havent thought about it yet |
| 07:26.10 | Bejitt | this is odd ... my fubar icon isnt showing anymore ... but it's showing in Rock config o_O |
| 07:26.19 | Xinhuan | i want to be able to click a button in one part of the config, to jump to another part of the config tree basically |
| 07:26.45 | Xinhuan | for Routes, this is specifically when i create a route, or taboo region, i want to jump to that new route/taboo's config subtree |
| 07:26.53 | Xinhuan | for dock, this would jump to the new dock's subtree |
| 07:26.54 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 07:27.07 | Nargiddley | What I don't like about that is what happens in a dropdown implementation when the same code runs :/ |
| 07:27.17 | Nargiddley | or a different dialog |
| 07:27.31 | Xinhuan | i suspect the tree and tabs is relative easy to code |
| 07:27.33 | Xinhuan | so do those first |
| 07:27.45 | Nargiddley | tabs is exactly as easy as a select |
| 07:28.03 | Nargiddley | as in I don't have to care which |
| 07:28.17 | Xinhuan | you can ignore "inline" at least |
| 07:28.49 | Xinhuan | hmmmmm i wonder with patch 2.4 |
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| 07:29.00 | Xinhuan | if i can embed textures in fontstrings |
| 07:29.03 | Xinhuan | in the config |
| 07:29.17 | Nargiddley | hmm |
| 07:29.19 | Xinhuan | like "Click on [this button] on the minimap" |
| 07:29.28 | Arrowmaster | you can |
| 07:29.31 | Xinhuan | where [this button] is that |T|t escape code sequence |
| 07:29.37 | Xinhuan | to show that texture |
| 07:29.41 | greaman1 | i am finding deluge faster speed than azureus which came out way before deluge.. is that normal? thanks |
| 07:30.06 | Arrowmaster | greaman1: wrong channel? |
| 07:31.13 | Xinhuan | the fontstring icon embedding means i can change the way Postal embeds the icon in the tooltip ;p |
| 07:31.14 | Xinhuan | i guess |
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| 07:46.01 | greaman1 | markybob right now deluxe or utorrent bette? does utorrent come with encryption? |
| 07:49.13 | Xinhuan | [Guild] [Xinhuan]: "# Players who have completed the attunement quests for Black Temple and Hyjal will be granted the title of "Hand of A’dal"." |
| 07:49.29 | Xinhuan | [Guild] [Wanell]: that's because A'dal has no fucking hands, that lazy bastard |
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| 07:49.50 | Bejitt | hahaha |
| 07:49.56 | greaman1 | and does upload rate effect download at all in deluge or any bittorent clients? |
| 07:50.38 | Xinhuan | upload rate will always affect download, esp if your uploading causes you to be capped for returning TCP ack packets to get the next packets for download |
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| 07:51.18 | Xinhuan | you should always throttle your upload speed to be about 10-20% lower than your upload bandwidth |
| 07:52.21 | Xinhuan | also for bittorrent in particular, your willingness to upload will be taken into account for whether another peer will open a connection with you for data transfer |
| 07:53.03 | Nargiddley | Xinhuan, http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7894/configtestic1.png |
| 07:53.27 | Xinhuan | haha that's awesome Nargiddley |
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| 07:53.36 | Nargiddley | thats my test options table which shows at least 3 of the new things in the past couple of days |
| 07:53.36 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 07:53.56 | Xinhuan | how do i specify the height of the multiedit? |
| 07:54.01 | Xinhuan | or is that not possible? |
| 07:54.04 | Nargiddley | not atm |
| 07:54.07 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: where? |
| 07:54.09 | Nargiddley | gogo jira it :P |
| 07:54.24 | Nargiddley | since that is one of the things I commented on, the ticket is still open |
| 07:54.43 | Nargiddley | Orionshock ? |
| 07:54.53 | Nargiddley | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-135 |
| 07:54.59 | Xinhuan | can i assume icon = accepts both a path, or a function that returns said path? |
| 07:55.04 | Nargiddley | yep |
| 07:55.20 | Nargiddley | since the spec says that :P |
| 07:55.35 | Xinhuan | what about details of that texture |
| 07:55.39 | Xinhuan | such as settextcoord |
| 07:55.43 | Xinhuan | tex* |
| 07:55.46 | Xinhuan | and setvertexcolor |
| 07:55.59 | Nargiddley | iconCoords (table|methodname|function) - arguments to pass to SetTexCoord, e.g. {0.1,0.9,0.1,0.9}. |
| 07:57.14 | Nargiddley | it will still be the size of the full texture |
| 07:57.25 | Nargiddley | Which i'm not sure how to get around cleanly |
| 07:57.39 | Nargiddley | or if it needs anything changed |
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| 07:59.13 | Xinhuan | what was that group option called |
| 07:59.13 | Xinhuan | that doesn't draw a box |
| 07:59.14 | Xinhuan | around that group |
| 07:59.28 | Nargiddley | just set name = "" on the group |
| 07:59.49 | Bejitt | hey Xinhuan, did you add equipment saving to wowequip? |
| 07:59.50 | Nargiddley | unnamed inline don't get the border/title |
| 07:59.57 | Xinhuan | could add that in the wiki |
| 07:59.58 | Bejitt | saving in savedvars i mean |
| 08:00.08 | Xinhuan | Bejitt, equipment saving? |
| 08:00.16 | Bejitt | like.. sets? |
| 08:00.28 | Xinhuan | it does even better than that, you can even send and receive them from other users |
| 08:00.35 | Bejitt | hmmms |
| 08:00.43 | Bejitt | ./ninja |
| 08:01.19 | Bejitt | I want to see if there are 'better' ways to save/send item links rather than plain text |
| 08:01.48 | Bejitt | rather, are there any? |
| 08:01.48 | Xinhuan | there are, but it requires encrypting it to use less bytes |
| 08:01.54 | Xinhuan | in the method that acecomm uses |
| 08:02.09 | Bejitt | yeah I saw something like that somewhere |
| 08:02.12 | Xinhuan | it takes the itemstring and converts the 8 number parts into bytes |
| 08:02.23 | Xinhuan | and converts the hex coloring part into more packed bytes |
| 08:02.23 | Bejitt | orly? |
| 08:02.33 | Xinhuan | so the 8 number parts only take 16 bytes to send |
| 08:02.42 | Xinhuan | as each part only requires 2 bytes - 16 bits to represent |
| 08:03.01 | Xinhuan | however, consider whether this is really necessary? lol |
| 08:03.01 | Bejitt | nice |
| 08:03.07 | Bejitt | haha yeah |
| 08:03.53 | Bejitt | so you use that acecomm method for the ingame transfers? |
| 08:04.01 | Xinhuan | i just use acecomm |
| 08:04.19 | Xinhuan | why would i code my own method when a lib exists |
| 08:04.21 | Bejitt | I'll poke around some then. thanks |
| 08:04.30 | Bejitt | yeah i meant that :P |
| 08:07.49 | Arrowmaster | its better to send the real itemlinks anyway |
| 08:08.08 | Arrowmaster | well simpler, because then it will be in the receivers cache |
| 08:08.23 | Xinhuan | i just send the whole data table via acecomm heh |
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| 08:08.40 | Xinhuan | only took a couple of weeks to figure out why the receiver end isn't receiving the full table |
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| 08:10.05 | Bejitt | and why was that? |
| 08:10.17 | Xinhuan | acecomm library stuff |
| 08:10.23 | Xinhuan | i found like 6 major bugs in it |
| 08:10.37 | Bejitt | haha nice |
| 08:11.40 | Xinhuan | things like nils not being packed properly, tables that are half hash half array doesn't get sent properly, errors on sending NaNs, etc |
| 08:12.17 | Bejitt | ahhh |
| 08:12.28 | Xinhuan | fixing those in effect fixed issues in omen |
| 08:12.29 | Bejitt | thanks for finding those <3 |
| 08:12.35 | Bejitt | oh? |
| 08:12.52 | Arrowmaster | then there was that stuff i found in it which i still dont know wtf it was |
| 08:13.02 | Xinhuan | which part |
| 08:13.11 | Arrowmaster | refereces to some undefined globals |
| 08:13.24 | Xinhuan | are they still around? |
| 08:13.27 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:13.43 | Xinhuan | i know rabbit and i cleaned up a lot |
| 08:14.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: you see tonights atlantis? |
| 08:14.26 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: SHUTUP |
| 08:14.32 | Arrowmaster | 30 seconds left downloading |
| 08:14.46 | Bejitt | man.. i haven't worked on lua in a while ... i keep wanting to do eclipse commands >_> |
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| 08:15.07 | Arrowmaster | oh its done now |
| 08:15.09 | Arrowmaster | afk |
| 08:15.35 | Xinhuan | sigh, back to my drawing board |
| 08:15.38 | Bejitt | *select word* *stare at scroll bar expecting to see marks where that text is" |
| 08:15.43 | Xinhuan | to derive the equations for line intersections |
| 08:15.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: i just finished watching :P |
| 08:17.33 | Bejitt | Xinhuan: finite? |
| 08:17.40 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 08:17.44 | Bejitt | >_> |
| 08:17.53 | Xinhuan | oh its relative easy |
| 08:18.07 | Xinhuan | its just that i need a new equation that is optimized everytime |
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| 08:18.13 | Xinhuan | for every situation |
| 08:18.15 | Bejitt | hmm yeah |
| 08:18.21 | Xinhuan | since it will be in a critical speed loop |
| 08:18.29 | Bejitt | gogo raytracer? |
| 08:18.32 | Xinhuan | i'll prob end up unrolling it |
| 08:19.00 | Xinhuan | at the moment i have a polygon |
| 08:19.05 | Xinhuan | something like |
| 08:19.24 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4c.jpg |
| 08:19.26 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4d.jpg |
| 08:19.33 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4b.jpg |
| 08:19.46 | Bejitt | oh snap |
| 08:19.54 | Xinhuan | shading the inside of the polygon wasn't difficult |
| 08:20.04 | Xinhuan | neither is finding whether a point is located inside/outside a polygon |
| 08:20.31 | Xinhuan | my next thing on the todo list is to find whether a given line intersects a given polygon -- again easy |
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| 08:20.43 | Xinhuan | but i'll like to determine the length(s) of the line intersections |
| 08:20.48 | Xinhuan | so more calcs |
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| 08:21.31 | Bejitt | interesting |
| 08:21.36 | Xinhuan | so for a given route with 200 nodes |
| 08:21.41 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp5.jpg |
| 08:21.59 | Xinhuan | lets say i want to determine the distance matrix between every node to every other node |
| 08:22.04 | Xinhuan | its currently 0.5N^2 |
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| 08:22.18 | Xinhuan | and i want to bias the weight matrix depending on whether an edge cuts thru a polygon |
| 08:22.35 | vithos | Xinhuan, i must say, you're my hero. |
| 08:22.48 | vithos | didn't realize you'd accomplished the routing by distance thing yet |
| 08:22.51 | Bejitt | jeebus christ |
| 08:22.58 | Xinhuan | that's (0.5N^2) pairs of edges vs 0.5M^2 pairs of edges of the shaded polygon |
| 08:23.03 | Xinhuan | to calculate |
| 08:23.15 | Xinhuan | you end up with N^2 * M^2 complexity |
| 08:23.30 | Xinhuan | you end up with N^2 * M complexity actually hmm |
| 08:23.34 | Xinhuan | since there's only M edges |
| 08:23.54 | Xinhuan | vithos, the addon was out more than 4 months ago :o |
| 08:24.27 | Xinhuan | temp5.jpg is already a "simplied route" |
| 08:24.31 | Xinhuan | simplified |
| 08:24.38 | Xinhuan | there's only about 196 nodes there |
| 08:24.41 | Xinhuan | compare that against |
| 08:24.44 | vithos | maybe i'm misinterpreting that last screenshot, but it looks like the path no longer passes through all the targets directly? |
| 08:24.46 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp3.jpg |
| 08:24.50 | Xinhuan | which has 657 nodes |
| 08:25.06 | vithos | oh |
| 08:25.09 | Xinhuan | yes, i implemented node clustering |
| 08:25.26 | Xinhuan | computing a path for 196 nodes >>>>> 657 nodes |
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| 08:27.58 | Xinhuan | so, i'm wondering if i want to simply calculate if a edge passes thru a polygon, or do something a bit more than that |
| 08:31.12 | CIA-10 | 03hegarol * r60654 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 08:31.12 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 08:31.12 | CIA-10 | - Yes. Its starting. Sunwell Island loot. As soon as 2.4 hits PTR we will have daily updates. Stay tuned. |
| 08:31.24 | Antiarc|Laptop | WTB PTR. |
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| 08:31.30 | Antiarc|Laptop | PST PLZ. |
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| 08:34.09 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60655 10Checklist2/ (Checklist2.toc Core.lua Profiles.lua): |
| 08:34.09 | CIA-10 | Checklist2: |
| 08:34.09 | CIA-10 | - Fixed a nil error |
| 08:34.09 | CIA-10 | - Deleted now-unused file "Profiles.lua" |
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| 08:35.21 | CIA-10 | 03nargiddley 07RC1 * r60656 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:35.21 | CIA-10 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: multiline inputs are no longer forced to width = "full" |
| 08:35.21 | CIA-10 | AceGUI: Small fix to the flow layout preventing controls overlapping in some cases |
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| 08:36.38 | CIA-10 | 03lyly00 * r60657 10AuctionProfit/ (3 files): |
| 08:36.38 | CIA-10 | AuctionProfit: |
| 08:36.38 | CIA-10 | - Add frFR translation |
| 08:41.01 | Xinhuan | sx + (ex - sx)u = x1 + (x2 - x1)t |
| 08:41.11 | Xinhuan | sy + (ey - sy)u = y1 + (y2 - y1)t |
| 08:41.19 | Xinhuan | solve quadratic equation for t and u |
| 08:41.30 | Xinhuan | and if they are between [0,1] for both t and u, they intersect |
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| 08:45.07 | zeeg | yoyoyo |
| 08:45.10 | Antiarc|Laptop | Sup. |
| 08:45.20 | zeeg | Can you help me |
| 08:45.25 | zeeg | My threat meter seems to be making my wow lag |
| 08:45.25 | Antiarc|Laptop | Yes |
| 08:45.33 | Antiarc|Laptop | Open a commend prompt |
| 08:45.40 | Antiarc|Laptop | Type format c: /y |
| 08:45.42 | Antiarc|Laptop | And hit enter |
| 08:45.44 | zeeg | k sec |
| 08:45.45 | Antiarc|Laptop | That will solve your problems |
| 08:45.56 | Bejitt | <3 Antiarc |
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| 08:46.04 | Shirik | rm -rf / |
| 08:46.15 | Antiarc|Laptop | Zeeg has been harassing me all night long :P |
| 08:46.21 | zeeg | who in their right mind uses linux + wow :P |
| 08:46.28 | zeeg | i guess that might work on mac too :) |
| 08:46.31 | Shirik | who in their right mind DOESN'T |
| 08:46.45 | zeeg | well I thought everyone, but maybe you can prove me wrong :D |
| 08:47.00 | Shirik | winecfg |
| 08:47.02 | Shirik | wine wow.exe |
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| 08:47.09 | Shirik | done |
| 08:47.10 | Shirik | er, sorry |
| 08:47.16 | Shirik | wine wow.exe -opengl -console |
| 08:47.27 | zeeg | ah.. if only you could run directx on linux |
| 08:47.33 | Shirik | I could, I just choose not to |
| 08:47.40 | Shirik | because I'm not braindead |
| 08:47.41 | zeeg | oh |
| 08:47.42 | zeeg | damn |
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| 08:47.49 | zeeg | i dislike windows and linux equally now |
| 08:48.00 | Guillotin1 | I run my computer on DOS |
| 08:48.01 | Shirik | Then obviously linux dislikes you too |
| 08:48.04 | zeeg | mostly because linux doesnt have a shiny dock, and both because their shortcut keys are not that of a mac :) |
| 08:48.18 | zeeg | well, and windows because it has no terminal, and powershell doesnt count |
| 08:48.36 | Shirik | and command prompt is? |
| 08:48.37 | zeeg | gg |
| 08:48.45 | Shirik | You make no sense |
| 08:48.51 | Shirik | I have no choice but to ban you from computers for eternity |
| 08:48.51 | zeeg | command prompt is a pretend terminal |
| 08:49.01 | zeeg | it has no functionality whatsoever |
| 08:49.03 | Shirik | please assist me by performing Antiarc|Laptop's instructions above |
| 08:49.32 | Antiarc|Laptop | Nerd party in 309 |
| 08:49.39 | zeeg | did kody leave |
| 08:49.45 | Antiarc|Laptop | Yeah, I think so |
| 08:49.48 | Antiarc|Laptop | He didn't come up with us |
| 08:49.55 | zeeg | i think hes up to something |
| 08:49.57 | zeeg | hes being all sneaky |
| 08:49.58 | Shirik | what time zone are you in Antiarc|Laptop |
| 08:50.05 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'm in San Francisco right now |
| 08:50.15 | Antiarc|Laptop | But I'm usually in Phoenix, which is MST this time of year |
| 08:50.16 | Shirik | ah so you have all the night to mess around |
| 08:50.45 | Shirik | "this time of year" as in it switches? |
| 08:50.49 | CIA-10 | 03bejitt * r60658 10Spyglass/ (core.lua menu.lua): |
| 08:50.49 | CIA-10 | Spyglass: |
| 08:50.49 | CIA-10 | - Fixed error if InspectFrame was loaded before Spyglass |
| 08:50.49 | CIA-10 | - Should have embedded FuBarPlugin in the first place |
| 08:50.54 | Shirik | that's pretty awesome, the state like floats back and forth or something |
| 08:50.55 | zeeg | i have to decide whether i have anything important enough that I need sleep for tomorrow or not |
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| 08:51.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Laptop: what are you (all) in sf for? out of curiosity.. |
| 08:51.45 | zeeg | all the cool people are here |
| 08:51.52 | zeeg | us KTM lovers |
| 08:53.44 | Xinhuan | Bejitt, you can just put ## Dependency: InspectFrame |
| 08:53.46 | Xinhuan | ;p |
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| 08:53.55 | Bejitt | eh? |
| 08:54.00 | xlvii | wow, it's been a while. |
| 08:54.05 | Xinhuan | and it'll work since both spyglass and inspectframe are both LoD |
| 08:54.16 | Bejitt | it was me blindly unregistering an event |
| 08:54.28 | Xinhuan | i assume you also use ##LoadWith? |
| 08:54.30 | Antiarc|Laptop | Curse put together a small focus group for a project they're working on |
| 08:54.48 | Antiarc|Laptop | So we're hanging out and being nerds and chatting on IRC when we're 3 feet from each other |
| 08:54.53 | Bejitt | you assume i know everything that i should =x |
| 08:55.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ah. interesting. |
| 08:55.05 | Xinhuan | what abut Antiarc|Laptop |
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| 08:55.49 | Antiarc|Laptop | I dunno how much of it is public info, but they're looking to do a developer publishing platform |
| 08:55.50 | zeeg | top secret stuffs |
| 08:55.57 | Guillotine | Xinhuan: we talked about you |
| 08:56.01 | Antiarc|Laptop | I won't say more than that or zeeg will break my kneecaps |
| 08:56.04 | Bejitt | i think i forewent all the LoD stuff b/c I wanted functionality w/out it loaded + demanding it loads |
| 08:56.13 | xlvii | if you're australian, please send me a tell (looking for a new realm to join) |
| 08:56.17 | Xinhuan | soundsinteresting |
| 08:56.17 | Bejitt | *demanding it loads when i want to |
| 08:56.19 | zeeg | i dont actually even know how much is public -- i dont pay attention much and i just do the stuff on curse.com :p |
| 08:56.27 | Xinhuan | zeeg, tell us more ^^ |
| 08:56.33 | Guillotine | with the talk tonight, I'd be more afraid of pissing off CK than zeeg |
| 08:56.34 | zeeg | but its a shiny project hosting solution |
| 08:56.39 | zeeg | ya ck will kill you |
| 08:56.43 | zeeg | with kaelten's help |
| 08:56.46 | Guillotine | in many interesting ways |
| 08:56.48 | zeeg | they're masterminds |
| 08:56.51 | Guillotine | they are quite creative |
| 08:56.51 | netcurse | zeeg the news system of curse.com is broken is keep rolling back articles each time someone post a comment check your emails :p |
| 08:56.52 | Xinhuan | i don't think ck will care anymore |
| 08:56.55 | Antiarc|Laptop | ckk's all "I know 43 ways to kill a man and LIKE IT" |
| 08:57.00 | zeeg | netcurse, ya i just replied |
| 08:57.05 | zeeg | i dont have my access setup here |
| 08:57.08 | zeeg | so i cant actually do anything |
| 08:57.16 | Xinhuan | more choices is always good for the user |
| 08:57.20 | Xinhuan | so i support it |
| 08:57.29 | Xinhuan | just like wowdb |
| 08:57.33 | Xinhuan | more choices |
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| 08:57.45 | Antiarc|Laptop | It looks like it should be a pretty robust platform! |
| 08:57.51 | Tem | zeeg, why are you in this channel? |
| 08:57.52 | Guillotine | like how Cartographer is an alternative for the incredibly stupid Atlas |
| 08:57.54 | Antiarc|Laptop | So if it all turns out like they're wanting to do I'll be all <3 |
| 08:57.59 | Tem | I'm 99% sure I've banned you already |
| 08:58.02 | zeeg | lol |
| 08:58.05 | netcurse | ban him |
| 08:58.06 | Tem | you aren't welcome here |
| 08:58.07 | Tem | get lost |
| 08:58.11 | Antiarc|Laptop | Yeah, Atlas would suck so much less if it was aced |
| 08:58.16 | zeeg | im not zeeg |
| 08:58.32 | NightHawkTheSane | This is not the zeeg you're looking for? |
| 08:58.32 | netcurse | Antiarc thanks :) |
| 08:58.36 | zinor | haha |
| 08:58.40 | zinor | NightHawkTheSane, something like that |
| 08:58.44 | Guillotine | who needs tv with this! irc drama > tv |
| 08:59.07 | Xinhuan | the problem is |
| 08:59.19 | Xinhuan | all we keep hearing is "this is in development" "that is in development" |
| 08:59.24 | Xinhuan | and after 6 months, nothing comes out of it |
| 08:59.37 | zinor | i made a file widget |
| 08:59.46 | Tem | Are you David Cramer? |
| 09:00.02 | zinor | That depends |
| 09:00.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=aaaa@*.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by Tem |
| 09:00.08 | *** kick/#wowace [zinor!n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem] by Tem (Tem) |
| 09:00.17 | Antiarc|Laptop | rofl |
| 09:00.18 | netcurse | haha |
| 09:00.21 | danshrugged | hahah |
| 09:00.25 | Antiarc|Laptop | This is so much funnier after 4 glasses of wine |
| 09:00.32 | netcurse | ll |
| 09:00.50 | NightHawkTheSane | everything is funnier after 4 glasses of ine |
| 09:00.55 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:02.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 09:02.24 | netcurse | god damnit this is the most retarted bug ever |
| 09:02.38 | netcurse | each time a user post a comment the news roll back 3 hours making it worthless |
| 09:02.52 | Shirik | <3 Tem |
| 09:02.56 | Xinhuan | why is it happening? |
| 09:03.04 | netcurse | no cle |
| 09:03.34 | netcurse | it s on the 2.4 infos page http://www.curse.com/articles/details/6322/ :p |
| 09:05.19 | Arrowmaster | nowonder the wow website sucks so much preformance wise, its writen in java |
| 09:07.06 | mykx | not sure if this was talked about already but "BT-Quality badges loot will be available from vendors on Sunwell Isle" what.. the fuck ? |
| 09:07.45 | [Ammo] | no more attunements! |
| 09:07.47 | [Ammo] | ;) |
| 09:08.15 | mykx | I'm actually annoyed about that, some scrub can ding 70 do a few heroics and recieve bt quality gear? |
| 09:08.16 | Kerafyrm | yup |
| 09:08.26 | Kerafyrm | not too happy about it either |
| 09:08.38 | Kerafyrm | also not really pleased with the many ui changes |
| 09:08.41 | syeren | And mykx? |
| 09:08.42 | mykx | it's like yeah we put a lot of raiding hours in to get this loot and some noob will have the same thing with no effort |
| 09:08.43 | NightHawkTheSane | so? don't be so self-entitled and self-righteous about it |
| 09:08.44 | Kerafyrm | lots of mods gonna go bybye |
| 09:08.46 | vhaarr | how do you think we felt when TBC was released and had been raiding Naxx for months? :P |
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| 09:08.50 | syeren | It's not like it takes ANY Skill to raid other than being a nice person? |
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| 09:09.01 | vhaarr | syeren: I'm not a nice person, I raid |
| 09:09.07 | mykx | it doesn't require skill but it requires lots and lots of hours |
| 09:09.27 | [Ammo] | warcraft is a timesink |
| 09:09.30 | syeren | And they spend hours in dungeons. |
| 09:09.52 | xlvii | If you're Australian, please send me a personal message. It's regarding which realm I should roll on (Alliance, preferably). |
| 09:10.05 | syeren | Blackrock ;p |
| 09:10.07 | mykx | 1 hour doing heroic mech doesn't constitute learning a fight in a raid but if the loot will be the same then that's sad |
| 09:10.27 | MentalPower | xlvii: try the lounge, a few australians over there |
| 09:10.28 | syeren | Oh shit, watching that video and reading those instructions while following your boss mod was hard. |
| 09:10.30 | syeren | Oh wait. |
| 09:10.31 | Arrowmaster | so is http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/ broken for anybody else? |
| 09:10.35 | mykx | yeah arrowmaster |
| 09:10.56 | NightHawkTheSane | so. fucking. what. You're not entitled to anything, get over it and be happy that other people may have a chance to experience the same content you have |
| 09:10.56 | syeren | Basically, it doesn't mean shit if they have that gear, because they're going to be doing nothing of any any importance with it. |
| 09:11.29 | xlvii | MentalPower, by 'the lounge' you mean #wowi-lounge? |
| 09:11.41 | MentalPower | yes |
| 09:12.02 | syeren | I'm fortunate enough to be highly rated in arena, so I'm one of the first 50 players in the world to get all my gear, yet I know full well in 2-3 months time pretty much every scrub is going to have that gear. |
| 09:12.13 | syeren | Doesn't really piss me off, because I know they're of no importance. |
| 09:12.29 | syeren | And rather than them being curb-stomped when they're trying to have fun, they at least have some chance with that gear. |
| 09:12.43 | mykx | I mean you could argue that arena requires skill pve doesnt blah blah but the fact is pve may not require skill but it requires countless hours of dedication |
| 09:12.55 | mykx | i dunno it annoys me |
| 09:13.00 | syeren | Oh shit. |
| 09:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | then you should get over yourself |
| 09:13.11 | syeren | I killed Illidan, this fight is about as hard as logging in to fucking WoW. |
| 09:13.17 | syeren | I deserve the best shit in the game. |
| 09:13.35 | syeren | Those people who haven't done deserve shit, because they haven't done this fucking horrible fight. |
| 09:13.45 | Arrowmaster | if warhammer has good endgame pve, so many of the hardcore raiders will probably quit imho considering the direction wows been going |
| 09:13.53 | Arrowmaster | or any other mmo |
| 09:14.15 | mykx | syeren the fights are only easy when on farm.. lol they require time to learn for the more end-game fights |
| 09:14.27 | syeren | They're easy full stop. |
| 09:14.42 | syeren | Kais from Bad Omen said PVE is a fucking joke now because Blizzard wants everyone to do it. |
| 09:14.59 | syeren | Everything that is or was hard gets fucking nerfed. |
| 09:15.13 | xlvii | syeren, what's your Armory link? |
| 09:15.31 | syeren | Europe, Stormscale, in some boosting 5s team ;p |
| 09:15.37 | syeren | I don't PVE since Vanilla WoW ;p |
| 09:15.38 | chexsum | HTTP Status 500 |
| 09:16.38 | Daemona | uuuh anyone can help me with a macro? |
| 09:16.41 | Daemona | #showtooltip |
| 09:16.41 | Daemona | /cast [equipped:Thrown] Deadly Throw |
| 09:16.41 | Daemona | /cast [equipped:Thrown] Throw; Shoot |
| 09:16.58 | Daemona | why doesnt it show the ranged shoot icon when i have no throwing weapon equipped? |
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| 09:17.29 | NightHawkTheSane | because Deadly Throw is still the first cast in the statement? |
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| 09:17.50 | Elsia | heya |
| 09:17.53 | syeren | The only people who have any reason to be pissed about badge shit is the top 10-20 in the world, but because they've had that shit on farm for so long, I doubt they give a shit. |
| 09:18.03 | NightHawkTheSane | try #show [equipped:Thrown] Deadly Throw; Shoot; after #showtooltip |
| 09:18.12 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: no |
| 09:18.13 | Elsia | wanna make a ptr branch of recount in my ptr client interface folder, how do I best do that? |
| 09:18.37 | Arrowmaster | never mix #show and #showtooltip |
| 09:18.54 | chexsum | just use showtooltip |
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| 09:19.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i forget precisely what can take conditionals or not, so whatever |
| 09:19.43 | chexsum | show can but show is lame |
| 09:20.02 | Antiarc|Laptop | So, someone give me the Ace3 doc |
| 09:20.04 | Antiarc|Laptop | I can't find it |
| 09:20.04 | mykx | syeren: everyone who has completed the content has a right to be pissed about them handing it out to noob guilds. but that is my opinion and it wont change |
| 09:20.11 | Antiarc|Laptop | And with 2.4 upon us it's time to write Threat-1.1 |
| 09:20.16 | NightHawkTheSane | mykx: your opinion is stupid |
| 09:20.21 | Antiarc|Laptop | (this is the part where I bitch and whine) |
| 09:20.21 | Daemona | #showtooltip [equipped:thrown] Deadly Throw; Shoot |
| 09:20.23 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Laptop: no need for Ace3 in Threat-1.1 :p |
| 09:20.26 | Daemona | thanks NightHawkTheSane and Arrowmaster |
| 09:20.31 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Laptop: but the docs are in the svn folder |
| 09:20.42 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Laptop: and some are linked from www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace3 |
| 09:20.43 | chexsum | in wotlk greens > end game stuff so i dont care about farming |
| 09:21.04 | chexsum | i dont even arena becuse of the upgrade crap |
| 09:21.13 | Antiarc|Laptop | Well |
| 09:21.17 | Xinhuan | Antiarc|Laptop, should be Threat-2.0 |
| 09:21.20 | Xinhuan | make it libstub |
| 09:21.23 | Antiarc|Laptop | Eh |
| 09:21.25 | mykx | <kara guild> LFM shade of akama we have nightbane on farm.. |
| 09:21.26 | Antiarc|Laptop | It's not a rewrite |
| 09:21.30 | Antiarc|Laptop | Just an upgrade, but it's not backwards compat |
| 09:21.36 | Antiarc|Laptop | And it is libstubbed right now |
| 09:21.48 | Arrowmaster | 1.1 or 2.0, theyre both new major versions |
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| 09:21.51 | Arrowmaster | doesnt really matter |
| 09:21.55 | NightHawkTheSane | mykx: and if they can do it, who the fuck cares? if they can't, they'll figure it out soon enough. but its not your problem either way |
| 09:22.06 | Antiarc|Laptop | 2.0 will be a rewrite or something. 1.1 is "Not backwards compatible, but not a rewrite" |
| 09:22.39 | mykx | NightHawkTheSane I'm assuming you are in a bad guild since you seem very pleased with the changes |
| 09:22.40 | Arrowmaster | mykx: luckly that wont happen until after they nerf najentus |
| 09:22.51 | Xinhuan | i don't actually threat needs a rewrite, the only parts that change is how you get the combat log events |
| 09:23.11 | NightHawkTheSane | mykx: actually, we're working through mh/bt at the moment. I just strongly endorse any changes that allow more people to see more content |
| 09:23.12 | Elsia | xin: any hints how to make a clean branch for ptr-2.4 hack version of recount? |
| 09:23.24 | Xinhuan | what do you mean elsia? |
| 09:23.28 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'd really like to move from AceComm-2.0 to AceComm-3.0 |
| 09:23.39 | Antiarc|Laptop | Because as Xinhuan found, 2.0 is, uh...yeah. |
| 09:23.49 | NightHawkTheSane | because, the thing is, whether those people succeed or fail at that content doesn't change whether I, or my guild, succeeds or fails at it. |
| 09:24.02 | Xinhuan | you normally make a branch by copynig the entire trunk folder to a branch folder |
| 09:24.03 | _aLF | about Ace3 : is it possible to release an addon using Ace3 RC1 ? |
| 09:24.10 | Elsia | well I want a branch version of recount to hack 2.4 changes that is separate from the trunk version until it's ready but I want to be able to have people test it off the svn before merging |
| 09:24.14 | [Ammo] | just release using the trunk _aLF |
| 09:24.21 | [Ammo] | trunk is 'release' |
| 09:24.23 | Xinhuan | then do just that elsia |
| 09:24.25 | [Ammo] | we deve in branches |
| 09:24.31 | Xinhuan | ppl who want to test the branch will easily be able to do so |
| 09:24.38 | Xinhuan | by using an svn client to update to that branch |
| 09:24.42 | Elsia | xin: that's what I'm asking. how do I make that branch copy with tortoisesvn? |
| 09:24.45 | [Ammo] | trunk will upgrade properly |
| 09:24.50 | Xinhuan | you right click on Recount folder |
| 09:24.56 | Xinhuan | and choose "tag/branch" |
| 09:25.01 | CIA-10 | 03rabbit * r60659 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: frFR broke the TOC, reverting. |
| 09:25.03 | CIA-10 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r60660 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - fix silly table stuff. |
| 09:25.19 | Xinhuan | you will see the "from URL" |
| 09:25.20 | Elsia | will that allow me to make a copy to the PTR client interface/addons/ folder? |
| 09:25.23 | Xinhuan | which is where the trunk is |
| 09:25.25 | _aLF | [Ammo]> so I change the external to use the trunk, and that's ok |
| 09:25.32 | [Ammo] | _aLF: yes |
| 09:25.39 | _aLF | ok, thank's |
| 09:25.41 | Xinhuan | and a "To URL" which is where you want to copy the trunk to |
| 09:25.55 | Elsia | ah, I see... make that branch |
| 09:25.57 | Xinhuan | for eg, FROM: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Recount |
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| 09:26.07 | Elsia | and then check out to the ptr client folder from the branch |
| 09:26.08 | Xinhuan | to: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount |
| 09:26.11 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 09:26.15 | Xinhuan | then just checkout in the PTR folder |
| 09:26.18 | mykx | I'm not trying to sound elitist NightHawkTheSane but I think removing the attunements somewhat takes away from the "accomplishment" of being one of the ~5% of guilds in BT. |
| 09:26.18 | Elsia | awesome thanks :D |
| 09:26.28 | Xinhuan | i suggest you add a layer to the branches folder |
| 09:26.36 | Xinhuan | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/2.4/Recount |
| 09:26.38 | Xinhuan | like that |
| 09:26.39 | [Ammo] | is there a 2.4 PTR yet? |
| 09:26.55 | Arrowmaster | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount/2.4/Recount |
| 09:26.59 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: yes |
| 09:27.02 | mykx | you can download the ptr [Ammo] but not transfer your char yet |
| 09:27.06 | NightHawkTheSane | mykx: so? prestige can go get fucked for all i care. :P |
| 09:27.07 | Xinhuan | yeah what Arrowmaster said |
| 09:27.08 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 09:27.17 | Xinhuan | use the Repo Browser, navigate to http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ |
| 09:27.23 | Xinhuan | right click on /branches |
| 09:27.27 | Xinhuan | in the browser |
| 09:27.32 | Xinhuan | and select "make folder" |
| 09:27.34 | mykx | NightHawkTheSane I dunno I like it lol |
| 09:27.36 | Fisker- | they nerfed paladins again |
| 09:27.36 | Xinhuan | type Recount |
| 09:27.37 | Fisker- | gj |
| 09:27.47 | Xinhuan | and the commit note, just say "create folder remotely" |
| 09:28.06 | Xinhuan | then you can copy from http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Recount to http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount/2.4/ |
| 09:29.25 | Xinhuan | ok elsia? |
| 09:29.45 | Elsia | yep, working on that right now thanks |
| 09:30.01 | Elsia | hmm path not found, so I first need to create it with the repo |
| 09:30.03 | Xinhuan | mainly, you can't create 2 levels of folders at the same time with "branch/tag" |
| 09:30.10 | rubik | nice wsg changes |
| 09:30.11 | Xinhuan | so we create the upper lvl first in the repo browser |
| 09:30.15 | rubik | "+ When both flags are held, the flag carriers will receive 50% increased damage done to them after approximately 10 minutes and 100% increased damage after approximately 15 minutes." |
| 09:30.20 | Elsia | gotcha |
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| 09:30.40 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 09:30.44 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 09:31.08 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: got a bug in Gathermate, moved from burning steppes into blackrock mountain -> http://dodgex.servegame.com/gathermate.jpg |
| 09:31.19 | Elsia | that should have been 2.5 and 5 mins actually :P |
| 09:31.30 | Xinhuan | ok dodge, i'll fix that later |
| 09:31.34 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
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| 09:31.44 | Xinhuan | BRM isn't in our tables heh |
| 09:31.48 | rubik | yeah.. 10 and 15 mins is way too long |
| 09:32.00 | CIA-10 | 03elsia * r60661 10/branches/Recount/: |
| 09:32.00 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 09:32.00 | CIA-10 | - Create folder remotely |
| 09:32.22 | mykx | so uhh that legendary bow is insane |
| 09:32.28 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 09:32.35 | mykx | I dont play a hunter but comparing that one to the one from say illidan.. wtf lol |
| 09:32.36 | mykx | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/thoridal.jpg |
| 09:32.49 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60662 10Recount/: |
| 09:32.49 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 09:32.49 | CIA-10 | - Create folder remotely (hi Xin ;)) |
| 09:33.05 | Xinhuan | you can "switch" between the trunk and branch version |
| 09:33.10 | Xinhuan | using the "switch" command |
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| 09:33.31 | mort | that bow isnt insane |
| 09:33.33 | Xinhuan | but since the 2.4 will only work on PTR, you'll generally just have 2 "working copies" of recount |
| 09:33.39 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60663 10Recount/Recount/: |
| 09:33.39 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 09:33.39 | CIA-10 | - Create branch for 2.4 hacking |
| 09:33.48 | Xinhuan | elsia |
| 09:33.49 | mykx | mort: huh? lol |
| 09:33.51 | Xinhuan | dont' have to create 2 lvls |
| 09:33.52 | Elsia | yes? |
| 09:33.55 | mort | it's subpar |
| 09:33.57 | Civrock | WTB lightweight version of Recount like Violation with sync and disablable tracking modules. |
| 09:34.01 | mykx | of course |
| 09:34.08 | Elsia | gah |
| 09:34.11 | Xinhuan | you should just copy over directly |
| 09:34.15 | Xinhuan | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount/2.4/Recount.toc |
| 09:34.16 | Xinhuan | not |
| 09:34.17 | rubik | "Many gameplay elements of the encounters in Magtheridon.s Lair have been changed to decrease their overall complexity and difficulty." |
| 09:34.20 | Xinhuan | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount/2.4/Recount/Recount.toc |
| 09:34.27 | Xinhuan | that's a bit too unnecesary ;p |
| 09:34.35 | mort | you don't get any extra dps from ammunition with that bow.. |
| 09:34.41 | Elsia | got me confused: <Arrowmaster> http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount/2.4/Recount |
| 09:34.50 | Arrowmaster | no http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount/2.4/Recount/Recount.toc is better |
| 09:34.54 | Xinhuan | yeah, that's one level too deep |
| 09:34.58 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 09:35.07 | Xinhuan | it is, the way CIA reports it |
| 09:35.10 | Xinhuan | now every commit will go |
| 09:35.13 | Elsia | ok you guys figure out what is right. |
| 09:35.20 | Xinhuan | elsia 2.4 * r60663 Recount/Recount/Recount.toc: blah blah |
| 09:35.24 | Arrowmaster | no it wont |
| 09:35.27 | Xinhuan | yes it will |
| 09:35.32 | Arrowmaster | no it will not |
| 09:35.33 | Xinhuan | go try it |
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| 09:35.44 | durcyn | learn to svn co <uri> <name> imo |
| 09:35.46 | Xinhuan | i've done enough branch work to know it will report that way |
| 09:35.53 | Xinhuan | because of the extra folder lvl |
| 09:36.10 | Antiarc|Laptop | Blargh. |
| 09:36.12 | Arrowmaster | cia will not display it like that |
| 09:36.20 | Xinhuan | it will, believe me, |
| 09:36.21 | Elsia | alright so delete the last Recount dir level and branch to 2.4 directly? |
| 09:36.23 | durcyn | already did on the third commeit, Arrowmaster |
| 09:36.30 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Routes was in a folder branch exactly like recount |
| 09:36.32 | Xinhuan | so it reported |
| 09:36.33 | Antiarc|Laptop | Threat-1.0 is...really not going to be easy to upgrade |
| 09:36.51 | NightHawkTheSane | "[01:33:39] <CIA-10> elsia 2.4 * r60663 Recount/Recount/:" ? |
| 09:36.52 | Xinhuan | xinhuan WIP * r60663 Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/core.lua: blah blah |
| 09:37.01 | Xinhuan | which was kinda gay |
| 09:37.06 | Arrowmaster | then something changed with cia |
| 09:37.09 | mykx | Antiarc|Laptop: good luck haha omen ftw :) |
| 09:37.10 | Arrowmaster | because it didnt used to |
| 09:37.43 | Xinhuan | cia never changed, because the standard format is branches/Addon/Branchname/*.* |
| 09:37.44 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: poke your toc in that branch or something |
| 09:37.55 | Xinhuan | it takes out the /branchname/ part from the path |
| 09:37.57 | Xinhuan | and puts it in front |
| 09:38.41 | Arrowmaster | cia didnt used to report it like that i know for a fact |
| 09:38.54 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60664 10Recount/Recount/: |
| 09:38.54 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 09:38.54 | CIA-10 | - Deleting overdone dir layer |
| 09:39.02 | Xinhuan | well i also know its been reporting like that since august when i started work on Routes :) |
| 09:39.06 | Xinhuan | so that's at least 6 months |
| 09:43.06 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60665 10Recount/: |
| 09:43.06 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 09:43.07 | CIA-10 | - Needs to die for branch setup |
| 09:43.19 | Arrowmaster | it might be that the wowace svn changed how it submited the data to cia |
| 09:43.27 | Xinhuan | wait till you get to the merging part lol! |
| 09:43.35 | Xinhuan | doing merges in svn is a pain in the ass |
| 09:43.35 | Arrowmaster | merging sucks |
| 09:43.55 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60666 10Recount/: |
| 09:43.55 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 09:43.55 | CIA-10 | - Branch copy for 2.4 ptr hacking |
| 09:44.44 | Arrowmaster | ive been trying to commit something ive used merge on and it keeps erroring |
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| 09:47.42 | Elsia | if all else fails once 2.4 goes live I can happily do a hard merge :D |
| 09:48.02 | Elsia | which is basically just delete my working old folder and copy the new one over... |
| 09:48.24 | Elsia | svn client doesn't really need to support merges structurally |
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| 09:49.41 | Killmore | wtb WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897 mirror, us-en |
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| 09:53.11 | Grum | Elsia: the only thing i found working with svn for merging is just doing a complete trunk replacement with a branch |
| 09:53.27 | Elsia | gruM: that's what I'm planning |
| 09:53.53 | Elsia | don't intend to let tortoisesvn replace a simply wholesale move thing and a commit :D |
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| 09:54.23 | Grum | svk can actually do merges |
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| 09:55.00 | Elsia | merges are useful if you honest to good develop separate parts of a large project, but that isn't the case for me |
| 09:55.59 | NightHawkTheSane | am i like the only one who never has issues with merging in svn? :P |
| 09:56.26 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:56.29 | Kerafyrm | yay |
| 09:56.34 | Kerafyrm | no 2.4 premade toons! |
| 09:56.42 | NightHawkTheSane | yay |
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| 09:57.04 | NightHawkTheSane | cause i swear, at work, everyone always complains about merges, but i find them so eays |
| 09:57.09 | Elsia | hmm EU pve ptr doesn't seem to be running yet |
| 09:57.27 | Killmore | wtb WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897 mirror, us-en :( |
| 09:57.35 | Elsia | merges should be easy unless they lead too many conflicts to resolve |
| 09:57.41 | Kerafyrm | killmore, you're kidding right |
| 09:57.57 | Kerafyrm | i downloaded the 120 some odd megs at like 1.5MBytes/sec |
| 09:58.07 | Kerafyrm | there are sooooo many seeds right now |
| 09:58.12 | Killmore | where ? |
| 09:58.19 | Kerafyrm | the blizz downloader |
| 09:58.48 | Killmore | the us one dont download |
| 09:59.02 | CIA-10 | 03arrowmaster * r60667 10EQCompare/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:59.02 | CIA-10 | EQCompare: |
| 09:59.02 | CIA-10 | - reverted changes by ggcall |
| 09:59.02 | CIA-10 | - deleted the unused localization files |
| 09:59.02 | CIA-10 | - DO NOT CHANGE THE TOC VERSION |
| 09:59.03 | Kerafyrm | i just got it from the test website |
| 09:59.03 | CIA-10 | - "FIND A NEW MOD, PEOPLE!! THIS ONE HASN'T BEEN UPDATED!!" |
| 09:59.06 | Kerafyrm | and it downloaded |
| 09:59.17 | Arrowmaster | so you see that commit that ive been trying to do a few times today |
| 09:59.20 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60668 10AuctionProfit/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:59.20 | CIA-10 | AuctionProfit: |
| 09:59.20 | CIA-10 | - created locales folder for localization files |
| 09:59.20 | CIA-10 | - add X-Embeds/OptionalDeps to toc |
| 09:59.40 | Kerafyrm | no more eqcompare? |
| 09:59.41 | Arrowmaster | i gave up and just deleted the merged stuff and added it manually because the merging wouldnt fucking work |
| 09:59.44 | Kerafyrm | thats a fuckin crime! |
| 10:00.11 | Arrowmaster | Kerafyrm: no its still there |
| 10:00.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: out of curiosity, what was the error it was giving y ou? |
| 10:00.48 | Arrowmaster | svn: Commit failed (details follow): |
| 10:00.48 | Arrowmaster | svn: COPY of libs: 400 Bad Request (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 10:01.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ... okay, i've never seen that before |
| 10:01.42 | Elsia | eqcompare worked till 2.3, have to see if 2.4 breaks it but I doubt it |
| 10:01.55 | Elsia | it'll probably keep working but some people hate it with a passion |
| 10:03.02 | Arrowmaster | im fucking svn del'ing it if i see a god damn 'fix toc version to 20400' commit |
| 10:03.19 | Elsia | I'd report that to kaelten ;) |
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| 10:03.51 | Elsia | just leave freaking eqc alone really |
| 10:04.04 | Arrowmaster | i will |
| 10:04.10 | Arrowmaster | if others do too |
| 10:04.15 | Elsia | lol |
| 10:04.20 | Elsia | you don't get it ;) |
| 10:04.27 | Kerafyrm | can't get the bloody ptr copy to pull up my toon |
| 10:04.29 | Kerafyrm | toons* |
| 10:05.06 | Elsia | say if someone picked up eqc and made it into an itemrack/closetgnome comparison tooltip addon, that's very legit. Except for the warfare that the name "eqcompare" induces |
| 10:05.21 | Elsia | like "don't touch it or..." threats |
| 10:05.38 | Arrowmaster | if somebody would actually recode and fix it that would be fine |
| 10:06.05 | Elsia | it has minor quirks, and doesn't need much recoding |
| 10:06.15 | Killmore | withdraw 200 000g from gbank, logoff, copy character = win |
| 10:06.30 | Arrowmaster | no it major flaws and needs a complete recode |
| 10:06.34 | Elsia | for closetgnome comparison you can't use the tekkompare UI calls as you need to construct the tooltips anyway |
| 10:06.42 | Elsia | it's not |
| 10:07.03 | Elsia | but there is a whole religion how it's majorily flawed... |
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| 10:07.19 | Arrowmaster | because it is |
| 10:07.40 | Elsia | you have the right to your opinion, but not that everybody uncritically believes it ;) |
| 10:07.52 | Arrowmaster | you should have seen it right at 2.0.3 before i fixed it |
| 10:08.17 | Elsia | I saw the change log... it's just fixing global var taints |
| 10:08.27 | Kerafyrm | and now its 503 errors.. yay |
| 10:08.39 | Elsia | dude I spend a lot of time staring at eqcompare code, because people hated it so much and I wanted to know why |
| 10:08.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah and it shouldnt even need to be setting those vars |
| 10:09.05 | Elsia | it does, that's what global var taints are about |
| 10:09.14 | Elsia | equipcompare has the same thing |
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| 10:09.29 | Elsia | except that equipcompare doesn't have an active community that hate it |
| 10:09.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont hate eqc |
| 10:10.11 | Elsia | then leave it alone... a toc change does exactly nothing to this addon |
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| 10:10.54 | Arrowmaster | i hate people that dont know what toc versions are for and bump them when they shouldnt |
| 10:11.09 | Civrock | It's comparable to false advertisement. If it's not actually up to date for the current version, it shouldn't have the respective toc. |
| 10:11.18 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 10:11.35 | Elsia | you understand that that is a very tricky topic |
| 10:12.00 | Civrock | I just stopped using those compare addons alltogether since Blizzard added the Shift compare option. |
| 10:12.03 | Elsia | lets say we all agreed to that notion, then a lot of addons on the SVN get their TOC updated falsely |
| 10:12.14 | Arrowmaster | they do |
| 10:12.37 | Elsia | lets say we don't all agree to the notion, then why should your notion dictate us all. |
| 10:13.17 | Elsia | that's why I keep calling it religion... limit of variable belief structures here... only one view is allowable |
| 10:13.50 | Elsia | I for one have a less tense view of the TOC. For me the TOC means: This has been looked at and found working with API version X. |
| 10:13.56 | Arrowmaster | because most the devs around wowace believe in the 'dont touch the toc of old addons' idea |
| 10:14.17 | Elsia | so it is a dictatorship by majority? |
| 10:14.39 | Elsia | if I'm a minority in that opinion should I take the pecking of you guys just because you can't tolerate another view? |
| 10:14.55 | Arrowmaster | and nobody that does arbitrary toc bumps actually looks at the code |
| 10:14.57 | CIA-10 | 03hegarol * r60669 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 10:14.57 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:14.57 | CIA-10 | - Sunwell update |
| 10:14.57 | CIA-10 | - New drop for Capacitus added |
| 10:15.15 | Orionshock | urg... tot is not changing in aguf |
| 10:15.20 | Elsia | that's another issue. I did look at eqc and can tell you that it does work with 2.3. |
| 10:15.20 | Arrowmaster | most of them are fucking asians that cant code or even read english |
| 10:15.34 | Civrock | lol |
| 10:15.50 | Elsia | I'm on skype with a "fucking asian" right now... |
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| 10:16.43 | Elsia | whatever... we don't agree, it's simple. If I see you vandalizing eqc I'll report to kaelten. It's about as simple as that. |
| 10:16.44 | Civrock | But why even update the toc in the first place if it hasn't actually been updated, especially if it's not even your addon... just for the sake of updating it so it doesn't get filtered by the Out of Date addons list in WoW? |
| 10:16.54 | Arrowmaster | im not racist, i was saying that in a derotory manar against those that do the toc bumping on wowace specificly |
| 10:17.24 | Elsia | as I said... it's religion: "don't touch toc, even if it doesn't do any practical damage" |
| 10:17.37 | Arrowmaster | it does do practical damage |
| 10:17.49 | Civrock | If somebody wants to use it, he/she can, but changing it and therefore advertising it as being up to date is wrong, IMO. |
| 10:18.05 | Elsia | yeah it did a lot... many locked forum threads... I'm still arguing my ass off over this... loads of damage just because you guys can't relax about it |
| 10:18.16 | Arrowmaster | it gives people the impression that the addon has been recently updated and somebody is actively working on it to fix any bugs that may appear in the future |
| 10:18.17 | Elsia | the real damage was done by reverting the toc to imcompatible |
| 10:18.18 | Nargiddley | the toc is to say 'this addon was developed against this version', bumping it makes that information useless |
| 10:18.55 | Civrock | Reverting a toc doesn't make an addon incompatible. |
| 10:18.59 | Elsia | The information is currently useless because the vast majority of addons don't fulfill that criterion |
| 10:19.02 | Arrowmaster | ok next time ill add Mirror as a reqdep |
| 10:19.16 | Arrowmaster | gg wau |
| 10:19.34 | Elsia | civ: if you go back long enough it did. and eqc was intentionally broken that way... SVN vandalism actually |
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| 10:20.08 | Civrock | Well, if it wasn't actually updated since that toc version, it shouldn't be changed. |
| 10:23.15 | Elsia | here is a scenario: Change 1.x to 2.0.1. An addon works without any changes, but the change of TOC makes it incombatible. Someone checks the addon and sees it works. Can he update the toc? |
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| 10:23.34 | Elsia | this affected literally 100s of addons. |
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| 10:23.50 | Elsia | that's why it's religion: No flexibility in the "one ought to" |
| 10:23.56 | Civrock | Working and just pretending to work is different. |
| 10:24.01 | Elsia | eqc works |
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| 10:24.18 | Elsia | define a working addon for me |
| 10:24.18 | Civrock | Superficially. |
| 10:24.36 | Civrock | An addon can work yet have completely outdated code. |
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| 10:24.54 | Elsia | current working definition of an addon: an addon that doesn't get heat from a certain section of the wowace community. |
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| 10:25.51 | Arrowmaster | nobody ever brings up the other addons we dislike, but thats probably because they arent hosted on wowace |
| 10:26.18 | TNZe | rofl |
| 10:26.19 | Elsia | yep, lucky equipcompare... |
| 10:26.24 | TNZe | removed bt & hyjal attunements, what a surprise |
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| 10:27.07 | Elsia | basically in my personal opinion what's flawed here is the social pecking system mostly. The toc handling is a minor issue that could be talk about quite sensibly if the pecking wasn't around |
| 10:27.20 | cncfanatics | TNZe: are they REMOVING attunements again ? |
| 10:27.26 | Elsia | cnc: yeah, great move |
| 10:27.36 | cncfanatics | great |
| 10:27.44 | cncfanatics | seems new blizz policy |
| 10:27.51 | cncfanatics | first lock everything with attunements |
| 10:27.54 | cncfanatics | and then remove em |
| 10:27.54 | TNZe | indeed |
| 10:27.59 | Elsia | they just need to stop doing hard attunements and they don't need to nerf them as hard then |
| 10:28.00 | Vangual | new? |
| 10:28.09 | TNZe | lock everything wtih attuenemtns so the casual players cant whine about how hard the instance is |
| 10:28.16 | cncfanatics | great news for me though, major guilds won't require you to have the ssc vial anymore |
| 10:28.16 | TNZe | but instead whine about how hard the attunement is |
| 10:28.21 | Elsia | BT/MH is easy early on |
| 10:28.50 | TNZe | so basically my guild now has <4 weeks left to down last 3 BT bosses |
| 10:28.55 | Xinhuan | naxx was good. there is attunement, but it was trivial enough not to be of any real issue, and naxx is hard -- as expected, it was perfect |
| 10:28.56 | Arrowmaster | i still dont see people that couldnt kill kael and vashj being able to kill naj |
| 10:29.01 | TNZe | so we can count us in with the crowd that downed illidan before 2.4 :P |
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| 10:29.14 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, rage winterchill is easier than void reaver lol! |
| 10:29.18 | Elsia | naj is a serious healer check |
| 10:29.24 | TNZe | rage winterchill is easier than lurker ffs |
| 10:29.27 | Xinhuan | of course the trash waves up to rage winterchill is the hard part |
| 10:29.32 | TNZe | uh? |
| 10:29.34 | TNZe | we did that 10 man |
| 10:29.36 | Elsia | but first 3 bosses of MH are easier than a lot of T5 |
| 10:29.43 | TNZe | we got winterchill to 70% 10 manned :P |
| 10:29.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats because they buffed voidreaver with the fucking arching bolts that are hard as hell to see |
| 10:29.52 | Xinhuan | he'll enrage if you do it 10man hehe |
| 10:30.09 | TNZe | well, one of our 3 healers got ice bolted :P |
| 10:30.18 | TNZe | then the other one |
| 10:30.25 | Xinhuan | well even if nobody died, the lack of dps will get ragewinterchill enraged after 10 min |
| 10:30.25 | TNZe | after that it was kinda done for :P |
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| 10:30.33 | syeren | (10:28:03) (TNZe) so basically my guild now has <4 weeks left to down last 3 BT bosses |
| 10:30.37 | syeren | This Patch is huge. |
| 10:30.42 | syeren | PTR will be up for more than a month. |
| 10:30.48 | TNZe | hope so |
| 10:30.51 | Ozguli | Arrowmaster even with max spell detail?` |
| 10:30.52 | syeren | They still have to implement the class balances which are promised. |
| 10:30.56 | cncfanatics | TNZe: why would you have to clear BT before 2.4 ? |
| 10:30.57 | syeren | So it's going to be done in phases ;p |
| 10:31.10 | TNZe | because post-bt green geared people are going to clear BT |
| 10:31.19 | cncfanatics | yea riiiight |
| 10:31.20 | Arrowmaster | Ozguli: on voidreaver? they arc up into the air so high you have to have your camera pointing up |
| 10:31.26 | syeren | Don't expect it in a month, first PVE is being tested, then PVP, then PVP in PVE Instances. |
| 10:31.28 | Ozguli | oh |
| 10:31.34 | syeren | So it's going to be a long while ;p |
| 10:31.36 | cncfanatics | TNZe: like pretbc aq40 right ? green geared people could clear it because it had no attunement ! |
| 10:31.48 | TNZe | exactly |
| 10:31.57 | cncfanatics | TNZe: note the sarcasm |
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| 10:32.02 | Ozguli | but TNZe they couldn't actually |
| 10:32.04 | TNZe | note my lack of sarcasm |
| 10:32.16 | cncfanatics | TNZe: they couldn't clear it, fyi |
| 10:32.22 | cncfanatics | they couldn't even kill the first trash pack |
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| 10:32.38 | TNZe | I'm not thinking of 40 green geared people |
| 10:32.41 | syeren | Greens in Vanilla WoW were funny :p |
| 10:32.48 | TNZe | 40 man raids allowed for some serious slackers |
| 10:32.50 | syeren | However, I cleared AQ on my blue damage geared Warlock alt ;p |
| 10:32.55 | TNZe | yes |
| 10:33.18 | TNZe | when I say green geared players I normally mean alts or people receiving boosts |
| 10:33.42 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Laptop: imho you should probably disable the tickets for omen on curse if your not going to look at them or clear out the stupid ones |
| 10:33.48 | TNZe | although the situation is dire atm |
| 10:33.52 | Cheads | 40 man raids rocked, loved the room for slackers |
| 10:33.55 | TNZe | green geared players with ilvl 141 epics |
| 10:33.56 | TNZe | <3 |
| 10:34.03 | TNZe | gotta love welfare epics |
| 10:34.06 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'm going to clear them out, I'm just lazy |
| 10:34.30 | Arrowmaster | and nobody ever puts them in the right catagory |
| 10:34.59 | Arrowmaster | threat-1.0 issues under omen, 'halp i cant download' issues under threat-1.0 |
| 10:35.22 | FRUCHT | where's the world coming to... :/ |
| 10:35.22 | Antiarc|Laptop | Heheh, yeah |
| 10:35.27 | syeren | Welfare Epics are as welfare as raid epics ;p |
| 10:35.32 | Antiarc|Laptop | Well, I'm doing a major upgrade for 2.4 |
| 10:35.37 | syeren | Both require zero of anything to acquire ;p |
| 10:35.41 | Antiarc|Laptop | And that'll resolve a lot of issues and raise new ones |
| 10:35.41 | Antiarc|Laptop | So yeah. |
| 10:35.59 | Elsia | threat-1.1 going full GUID already? |
| 10:36.01 | Arrowmaster | im thinking of making a library for using with the combat log in 2.4 |
| 10:36.30 | Antiarc|Laptop | Yeah, the idea is to bump it to 1.1 and implement full GUID support |
| 10:36.44 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'll start the upgrade when I can get on the PTR |
| 10:37.02 | Arrowmaster | for maping stuff like class race level to guid since you cant get those from the combatlog, sound like a good library idea? |
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| 10:39.39 | Grum | Antiarc|Laptop: how much simpler will it be? |
| 10:40.08 | Antiarc|Laptop | The code should be slimmed down a lot |
| 10:41.07 | Antiarc|Laptop | No more hashing, no more on-the-fly translation, which will be nice |
| 10:41.14 | Antiarc|Laptop | should resolve most of the major outstanding bugs |
| 10:42.22 | CIA-10 | 03hegarol * r60670 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.en.lua: |
| 10:42.22 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:42.22 | CIA-10 | - Tier 0 bug fixed |
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| 10:43.06 | Arrowmaster | your still going to store names right? |
| 10:44.54 | [SW]Dodge | Hegarol? r u there? there is a bug in atlas loot showing wrong boss for druid t5 legs in Collections -> T5 -> druid |
| 10:47.06 | Xinhuan | well threatlib can differentiate mobs by GUID, and build threat tables by GUID |
| 10:47.27 | Xinhuan | but the Omen front end will have to be the smart frontend that tries to match a given mob to a given GUID |
| 10:47.38 | Antiarc|Laptop | Eh |
| 10:47.48 | Antiarc|Laptop | Threat will probably try to maintain those names |
| 10:47.50 | Antiarc|Laptop | But it won't be hard. |
| 10:48.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah it would be a lot of extra work for a frontend to try and do it imho |
| 10:48.19 | Xinhuan | well if i target a "Murloc", Omen can only tell it is a Murloc, it can't tell apart from another "Murloc" with the same name |
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| 10:48.33 | Xinhuan | the combat log differentiates it by GUID |
| 10:48.36 | Antiarc|Laptop | We won't know the specifics till the PTR |
| 10:48.42 | Antiarc|Laptop | But I'm hopeful! |
| 10:48.44 | Xinhuan | but there is no matching mechanism from targetted mob -> GUID |
| 10:48.53 | Arrowmaster | yes there is |
| 10:48.53 | Antiarc|Laptop | But I want to keep the brains in Threat as much as possible |
| 10:49.13 | Arrowmaster | you want combatlog and when something pops up with the target flag set youve got your guid |
| 10:49.18 | Xinhuan | no there isn't, unless i read something incorrectly |
| 10:49.22 | Arrowmaster | until PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 10:49.30 | mykx | Hey guys. I finally got the US character copy to work. now I'm getting no characters listed under my realm. anybody? |
| 10:49.35 | Arrowmaster | its shitty but it should work |
| 10:49.42 | Xinhuan | if i cast an AOE spell, say Flamestrike, and it hits 2 mobs with the same name. |
| 10:49.45 | Killmore | mykx: same thing |
| 10:49.48 | Xinhuan | one critted, and one didn't crit |
| 10:50.00 | Xinhuan | combat log will show this on 2 different GUIDs |
| 10:50.07 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 10:50.16 | Xinhuan | but from my point of view, when i target one of those 2 mobs |
| 10:50.23 | Xinhuan | i can't tell which one that mob is |
| 10:50.24 | Arrowmaster | and if youve got 1 targeted, its bitmask will tell you its targeted |
| 10:50.39 | Diao | but if he didn't have it targeted while flamestriking and then targets it after |
| 10:50.40 | Xinhuan | not if i didn't target any of them |
| 10:50.42 | Diao | how does it determine? |
| 10:50.49 | Xinhuan | when i casted flamestrike |
| 10:50.50 | Elsia | xin: any other combat log entry will reveal which one it is |
| 10:50.56 | Xinhuan | there can be 10 of the same mobs |
| 10:51.06 | Xinhuan | say 12 ghouls in wave 1 |
| 10:51.15 | Xinhuan | there are 12 unique GUIDs on those 12 ghouls |
| 10:51.27 | Xinhuan | but when i target one of them, i don't know which GUID that targetted ghoul has |
| 10:51.42 | Arrowmaster | and no way to tab between them and figure out which you have high or low threat on |
| 10:51.52 | Elsia | why do you need to know about the targeted one? |
| 10:52.01 | Kerafyrm | mykx: it will continue to show no toons, until the ptr servers come up |
| 10:52.09 | Kerafyrm | At least, thats my understanding |
| 10:52.29 | Xinhuan | until you get a targetted mob -> GUID mechanism, you still have 0 way of matching them up, you can only do so by inference, based on the debuffs on each mob |
| 10:52.42 | Elsia | you don't need to have that match |
| 10:52.44 | Arrowmaster | although you could do something with raid icons too but then you would have to forget them all and listen again when the event fires when raid icons change |
| 10:52.59 | Xinhuan | from omen's point of view, it has to |
| 10:53.03 | Elsia | you can tell which GUID is highest in thread and what name it has, by it running at you you'll know which one it was |
| 10:53.06 | Xinhuan | because Threatlib builds a table of threat based on GUIDs |
| 10:53.18 | Xinhuan | but omen dosen't know the GUID of the mob you targetted |
| 10:53.18 | mykx | Kerafyrm thanks for clearing that up |
| 10:53.18 | Kerafyrm | if you want to get in before the copy queue goes from hours to days, basicly you have to camp the ptr forum until Hortus posts that its up.. or just refresh the copy selection until your toons show up.. lol |
| 10:53.21 | Kerafyrm | np |
| 10:53.23 | Elsia | it can |
| 10:53.26 | Elsia | here is how it can: |
| 10:53.42 | Grum | Xinhuan: that is silly |
| 10:53.44 | Elsia | MT targets mob X. He get's GUID of it. You sync it with rest. You know GUID of target |
| 10:53.46 | Arrowmaster | it cant instantly |
| 10:53.51 | mykx | Kerafyrm my guild wants to raid sunwell on the ptr so i'm kinda trying to get my char up asap lol |
| 10:53.57 | Elsia | no it can't instantly but so be it |
| 10:53.58 | Xinhuan | Elsia, hence that is by inference |
| 10:54.01 | Kerafyrm | mykx: I wish you the best of luck |
| 10:54.06 | Xinhuan | you have to do it by indirect methods |
| 10:54.07 | Kerafyrm | and get to know your F5 button INTIMATELY! |
| 10:54.08 | mykx | same :) |
| 10:54.10 | Xinhuan | via inference |
| 10:54.14 | Elsia | nah it's not |
| 10:54.14 | FRUCHT | is there an alternative to aloft? |
| 10:54.19 | Grum | Xinhuan: lol that is completely hORRIBLE if they dont have a GetGUID( unit ) |
| 10:54.21 | mykx | haha I have the addon for firefox "reloadevery" :) |
| 10:54.24 | FRUCHT | one that is as much as possible like aloft, but with a different code? |
| 10:54.27 | Kerafyrm | wtb Antiarc|Laptop picking NECB *hint hint* |
| 10:54.28 | Xinhuan | Grum, its intended to be that way |
| 10:54.31 | Elsia | it's a perfect match, the only think you can't do is demand that you can match target with GUID |
| 10:54.35 | Kerafyrm | picking up that is |
| 10:54.36 | Elsia | and you don't actually need this |
| 10:54.42 | Xinhuan | they only do this to make combat log parsing easier for applications like damage meters and WWS |
| 10:54.43 | Grum | Xinhuan: so you need to interact with the target to get it |
| 10:54.47 | Xinhuan | it isn't meant to make ThreatLibs easier |
| 10:54.58 | Elsia | nah you can make thread-1.1 much better |
| 10:54.58 | Grum | so you could for example have a mage do 'detect magic' :) |
| 10:55.05 | Elsia | you group by GUID which is huge |
| 10:55.11 | Xinhuan | yes, but again that is still by inference |
| 10:55.17 | Grum | yeah |
| 10:55.20 | Elsia | no |
| 10:55.21 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 10:55.21 | Arrowmaster | Grum: i think you mean a hunter with hunters mark |
| 10:55.29 | Xinhuan | as long as you don't have a direct mechanism to translate mob -> GUID, it is by reference |
| 10:55.29 | Grum | Arrowmaster: anything |
| 10:55.30 | cncfanatics | when you cast something on a mob you get its GUID in combatlog right ? |
| 10:55.31 | Xinhuan | inference |
| 10:55.39 | Arrowmaster | Grum: since detect magic doesnt exist anymore |
| 10:55.41 | Grum | Xinhuan: yeah |
| 10:55.45 | Grum | Arrowmaster: true |
| 10:55.50 | Xinhuan | inference due to the spells casted on it and matching the debuffs on it, inference from the damage done to it, and the damage left on the mob, etc |
| 10:55.54 | cncfanatics | so you can find out the target's guid whenever the user does something to the mob right ? |
| 10:55.55 | Grum | but yeah it has to be indirectly |
| 10:56.01 | Xinhuan | yes but it has to be by inference |
| 10:56.02 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: you 'should' get its guid when you start casting i think even if you dont finish |
| 10:56.06 | Grum | everyone needs to guild a list of unitname<->guid |
| 10:56.07 | Elsia | xin: what difference does it make for omen? |
| 10:56.09 | Grum | and sync it around |
| 10:56.19 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: even better then ? |
| 10:56.20 | Elsia | and I doN#t call taking info straight out of the combat log inference |
| 10:56.21 | Xinhuan | the difference for omen is that it has to deduce this, by inference |
| 10:56.27 | Elsia | no |
| 10:56.32 | Arrowmaster | Grum: its not an issue of unitname<->guid |
| 10:56.37 | Grum | well Threat-1.1 can do it |
| 10:56.39 | Arrowmaster | its unitid<->guid |
| 10:56.45 | Grum | Arrowmaster: 'unitid' ? |
| 10:56.51 | Xinhuan | unitid == "target" |
| 10:56.54 | Grum | i dont know the workings of threat/omen |
| 10:56.54 | Xinhuan | unitid == "targettarget" |
| 10:56.55 | Arrowmaster | 'target' 'focus' |
| 10:56.58 | Xinhuan | unitid == "raid1target" |
| 10:57.02 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 10:57.13 | Grum | hummz ok that makes sense |
| 10:57.16 | Elsia | omen doesn't need to give you the target, just warn you that a "goul" with GUID 11 is the highest goul threat-wise to you |
| 10:57.28 | Grum | you can only get accurate threat if you have done dmg to the thing or if there is only one |
| 10:57.39 | Xinhuan | yes it does, if i target ghoul 11, and it has high threat to me, i switch to ghoul 2 which has low threat and i dps that |
| 10:57.42 | Elsia | If you hit it or change any threat to it you _will_ know which one it is. No inference |
| 10:57.46 | Xinhuan | i don't want ghoul 2 to show ghoul 11's threat |
| 10:57.52 | MentalPower | danshrugged: you suck! |
| 10:58.00 | Grum | Xinhuan: that is hard |
| 10:58.03 | danshrugged | thank you! |
| 10:58.03 | Arrowmaster | not true, you really only need to wait for any combatlog message refering to the mob after you change targets |
| 10:58.10 | Arrowmaster | but its still not instant which is an issue |
| 10:58.15 | Xinhuan | yes elsia, hence that is inference - you have to wait for an incoming combat log message in order to deduce the GUID |
| 10:58.16 | Guillotine | WTB test realm :( |
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| 10:58.25 | Elsia | alright so this discussion is semantics |
| 10:58.27 | Kerafyrm | give it time |
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| 10:58.50 | Guillotine | anybody have any idea if Unit_Health is considered a combat event and thus deprecated 2.4? |
| 10:58.57 | Elsia | threatlibs only every deduce anything from incoming clobat log message hence all threatlibs do is inference... GUID changes nothing |
| 10:59.04 | Elsia | in that semantic argument |
| 10:59.11 | Xinhuan | threatlib doesn't deduce everything |
| 10:59.17 | Grum | Arrowmaster: yeah but that defeats the purpose of tabbing around and seeing which target is low on threat for you |
| 10:59.19 | Xinhuan | threat lib only cares about spells you cast |
| 10:59.28 | Xinhuan | because threatlib only calcs Your own threat |
| 10:59.36 | Elsia | anyway, my point is that GUID will resolve the main distinguishing issue for threat-1.0. |
| 10:59.38 | Xinhuan | it doesn't calc the threat of anyone else, it just receives them |
| 10:59.44 | Elsia | if you cann that ability inference doesn't change anything |
| 10:59.53 | chexsum | is ptr up ? |
| 10:59.56 | Xinhuan | so threatlib technically only monitors spells that you cast, it doesn't monitor or care about spells that other people cast |
| 10:59.59 | Elsia | call* |
| 11:00.13 | Elsia | xin: that may just change |
| 11:00.22 | Xinhuan | because what other people cast isn't relevant to your threat |
| 11:00.25 | Arrowmaster | it still will get the combatlog events for everybody else though |
| 11:00.36 | cncfanatics | Elsia: no it doesn't, combat events are not guaranteed to be complete for anyone but you |
| 11:00.48 | Xinhuan | that is correct cncfanatics |
| 11:00.57 | Xinhuan | for example, if i do not have Improved Counterspell |
| 11:00.59 | Elsia | cnc: all I'm saying, you sync GUIDs and it's all you need to do |
| 11:01.02 | Xinhuan | and i cast Counterspell on a ghoul |
| 11:01.10 | Xinhuan | there is no combat log event generated |
| 11:01.12 | Grum | Elsia: there is more |
| 11:01.13 | cncfanatics | Elsia: sync what ? |
| 11:01.14 | Xinhuan | i gaurantee you that |
| 11:01.18 | Grum | not for threat but definately for omen |
| 11:01.19 | cncfanatics | how will that help with mobs with the same name ? |
| 11:01.23 | Xinhuan | only me, the spellcaster, know that i casted counterspell |
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| 11:01.38 | Xinhuan | nobody else in the raid will see a combat log event for the counterspell that countered nothing |
| 11:01.50 | Xinhuan | because, that's how it works |
| 11:01.58 | Elsia | xin: I never argued that you can do everything instantly... |
| 11:02.04 | Xinhuan | and yet, my Counterspell generated 350 threat |
| 11:02.13 | Elsia | I just argue that the moment you see combat-log related entry you will know the GUID of target |
| 11:02.19 | Arrowmaster | im thinking if you put raidicons on all the mobs then you can have instant guid when you tab to them (if youve been listening to the combatlog enough to know their guid and the raidicons havent changed) |
| 11:02.27 | Grum | Elsia: that doesnt solve anything |
| 11:02.28 | cncfanatics | Elsia: you won't if you have multiple targets with the same name |
| 11:02.29 | Elsia | ok so you don't get the mini-threat of an idle counterspell but it's a small price to pay |
| 11:02.31 | Grum | if you have 2 mobs with the same name |
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| 11:02.35 | Elsia | it solves a lot |
| 11:02.38 | Grum | every time you switch mobs you nbeed to dmg it again |
| 11:02.45 | Grum | to be able to know which threatpool you are looking at |
| 11:02.47 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: no it solves nothing |
| 11:02.50 | cncfanatics | Elsia: you are solving nothing at all |
| 11:03.02 | Xinhuan | everyone got my point, except elsia ;p |
| 11:03.07 | Grum | even worse |
| 11:03.07 | Elsia | ok guys: define for me what _you_ think I want to solve |
| 11:03.12 | Grum | think of an affliction lock |
| 11:03.20 | Elsia | my point is that you doN't need the target match for this info to be useful |
| 11:03.21 | Grum | Elsia: nothing Threat-1.0 related |
| 11:03.28 | Grum | but more Omen releated |
| 11:03.30 | cncfanatics | Elsia: how is that useful at all ? |
| 11:03.30 | Grum | *related |
| 11:03.40 | chexsum | wtf ptr char copy says ive got no chars :((( |
| 11:03.52 | Grum | an affliction lock does dmg on 2 targets with the same name but has one targetted |
| 11:03.57 | Elsia | you have 10 ghouls. Now you cannot tell when the first one will switch threat if you switched targets |
| 11:04.08 | Grum | he can not know which threatpool to show |
| 11:04.19 | Grum | no Elsia, till you switch and ONLY do damage to that one |
| 11:04.30 | Elsia | now you will know all threat that has combat log display too goes to which GUID, so you _will_ know which the threat distribution can can predict when the first ghoul will switch target |
| 11:04.55 | Xinhuan | grum, elsia's point is that anybody damaging your target will generate a combat log event, which you can use to tell the GUID of your targetted mob, it is valid |
| 11:04.59 | Elsia | this isn't perfect, but I don't argue this. I just argue it's better than what we have |
| 11:05.05 | Xinhuan | i understand this, but it still relies on at least 1 combat log event |
| 11:05.06 | Grum | still not |
| 11:05.18 | Grum | if you have more than 1 target you still know shit |
| 11:05.27 | Elsia | xin got my point |
| 11:05.36 | Grum | no |
| 11:05.49 | Grum | if you do not dmg the mob you do not get a GUID |
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| 11:05.58 | Xinhuan | omen doesn't care about mobs i don't target |
| 11:05.59 | Elsia | I don't think we need to argue this, just implement it in threat-1.1 because you can. |
| 11:06.02 | Grum | if someone else damages 'a' mob with the same name as you have he gets a GUID, yuo get a GUID |
| 11:06.07 | Grum | you just dont know *WHICH* guid |
| 11:06.12 | Elsia | omen can change... |
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| 11:06.31 | Elsia | grum: I keep saying forget about matching GUID to target |
| 11:06.44 | Elsia | I will never give you which ghoul will break lose, but I will give you that one will and when. |
| 11:06.45 | Grum | Elsia: that might be useful for Threat-1.1 |
| 11:06.53 | Elsia | that's a massive improvement over what we have now |
| 11:06.54 | Grum | but not for anything displaying |
| 11:06.56 | Xinhuan | there's just one other problem, we don't know yet if the GUID is consistent across the raid. :) |
| 11:07.04 | Grum | it is Xin |
| 11:07.06 | Grum | they said that |
| 11:07.13 | Elsia | it might not |
| 11:07.33 | Elsia | the debate about water elementals hinted that they may not be |
| 11:07.39 | Grum | lets say, its way easier for them to make a global idea than to store 25 different IDs |
| 11:07.41 | Elsia | hence why you sync |
| 11:07.49 | Xinhuan | my game client could number the 12 ghouls from ID 1 to 12, your game client could number the same 12 ghouls as ID 111-122 |
| 11:07.52 | Arrowmaster | the debate about water elementals is over |
| 11:07.56 | Grum | no, every mob that spawns or pet is unique for as long as it is there |
| 11:07.57 | Elsia | anyway, I think we don't really need to debate it. just implement :D |
| 11:08.06 | Arrowmaster | guid is determined when mob is spawned |
| 11:08.09 | Grum | Xinhuan: that would be stupid |
| 11:08.16 | Xinhuan | it could, you dont' know! |
| 11:08.21 | Grum | they would need storing per person |
| 11:08.26 | Arrowmaster | so water elementals wont have the same guid when spawned a 2nd time |
| 11:08.31 | cncfanatics | who says the storing is server side ? |
| 11:08.32 | Xinhuan | the whole combat log system is designed to change the way events are delivered to YOUR client |
| 11:08.34 | Grum | instead of per 'global', so 40 people in the raid you need to maintain 40 lsits instaead of just 1 |
| 11:08.36 | Elsia | arrow: that's another issue though |
| 11:08.38 | Xinhuan | it isn't meant to let you sync easier |
| 11:08.50 | Grum | well this is easy to check |
| 11:08.58 | Xinhuan | we don't know the specific |
| 11:09.00 | Xinhuan | specifics |
| 11:09.06 | Grum | log into PTR hit a kill a mob, hit another mob store that ID |
| 11:09.13 | Grum | quit wow, log in, hit same mob |
| 11:09.16 | Xinhuan | a lot of things can be dumb, and yet they can happen ;p |
| 11:09.16 | Grum | same ID == global |
| 11:09.25 | Elsia | i never said it'll make sync easier, I say if GUIDs are not shared, you will need to sync them to mitigate that |
| 11:09.27 | Grum | or actually to be 200% sure you need a second person |
| 11:09.39 | cncfanatics | Elsia: you are obsessed by syncing right ? |
| 11:09.44 | Elsia | cnc: no |
| 11:09.48 | Elsia | geez |
| 11:10.01 | Grum | you need syncing if the data is not available in the same way on every point |
| 11:10.03 | Elsia | one can't have a discussion here without getting cornere |
| 11:10.05 | Grum | just no other way to do it |
| 11:10.05 | Elsia | d |
| 11:10.14 | Grum | syncing/sharing/whatever you fk call it |
| 11:10.16 | cncfanatics | Elsia: you are just making moot points -.- which is anoying |
| 11:10.23 | Elsia | i hate syncing tbh... |
| 11:10.42 | Elsia | cnc: thanks for that too, can you put me on ignore if you don't like my contributions? |
| 11:10.53 | cncfanatics | this is irc, not WoW |
| 11:11.01 | Elsia | why are you being an ass? |
| 11:11.14 | Grum | lol |
| 11:11.14 | Recluse | anyone know the name of the frame that has the progress meter for alliance/horde tower/objective control? |
| 11:11.17 | Grum | stop being a cunt CNC |
| 11:11.26 | Grum | be happy Elsia is here chatting about this crap |
| 11:11.30 | Recluse | mine's off-screen for some reason >.> |
| 11:11.39 | Grum | sec Recluse |
| 11:11.49 | Elsia | recluse: get battleobjectivesmover of curse |
| 11:12.09 | cncfanatics | Grum: you should know by now I'm always like this :p |
| 11:12.10 | Grum | humz cant find it that fast :P |
| 11:12.12 | Recluse | lol |
| 11:12.20 | Grum | ~taser cncfanatics |
| 11:12.21 | purl | ACTION stuns cncfanatics with a taser, then drags cncfanatics out into the middle of highway 666 |
| 11:13.01 | Elsia | all that adhominem style that people tend to fall into really does get to me... alas |
| 11:13.04 | Recluse | i think my minimap addon 'pushed' it off-screen, but not sure (thought they were parented) |
| 11:13.05 | mykx | Hey Elsia, you are the main guy with recount yeah ? unless I'm mistaken |
| 11:13.05 | Elsia | taking a break |
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| 11:13.11 | Grum | Elsia: if the GUIDs are 'GLOBAL UnitID's then you can suffice storing GUID+threat |
| 11:13.11 | Elsia | mykx: yeah |
| 11:13.19 | Grum | and it would be really nice if you cold also store GUID+Name |
| 11:13.26 | mykx | what's up with the recent update where I'm prompted to reset the data every few minutes(or so it seems) |
| 11:13.39 | Grum | and have the threat give back a list of threat either by GUID or name |
| 11:13.44 | Grum | for names you would get a pool |
| 11:13.59 | Grum | and as soon as the client figures out which of the pool you have targetted (it is the last one for example) it can be displayed |
| 11:14.05 | Elsia | mykx: go to the config window. And check the auto-delete options. Disable those that you don't like. If you don't want the confirmation window but the deletion, unckec "confirmation" |
| 11:14.29 | mykx | ah ok I'll have a look, thanks. |
| 11:14.30 | Elsia | it now asks if you want to delete when entering group, raid or an instance |
| 11:14.42 | Elsia | alright break time for me |
| 11:14.46 | mykx | oh ok that's what it is then |
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| 11:15.28 | Grum | we need 2 parts for this to work: Threat->GUID+Name basicly how it is right now with theat+names and a lib on the clientside that does 'unitid'=>GUID |
| 11:15.31 | Grum | and that is the hard one :) |
| 11:15.33 | Grum | (the last one) |
| 11:15.54 | Arrowmaster | you cant do unitid=>guid |
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| 11:19.28 | Grum | Arrowmaster: well, you can deduce it with some magic |
| 11:19.32 | CIA-10 | 03diablohu * r60671 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua: |
| 11:19.32 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:19.32 | CIA-10 | - zhCN update |
| 11:19.44 | Arrowmaster | only for certain unitids |
| 11:19.50 | Grum | yeah |
| 11:19.53 | Arrowmaster | target and focus |
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| 11:20.02 | Grum | not even |
| 11:20.05 | Grum | only if you dmg em |
| 11:20.08 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:20.29 | Grum | yes |
| 11:20.34 | Arrowmaster | you can get it if you get ANY event involving them after changing target or focus |
| 11:20.43 | Grum | no |
| 11:20.45 | Arrowmaster | YES |
| 11:20.48 | Grum | NO |
| 11:20.51 | Arrowmaster | YES! |
| 11:20.51 | Grum | Because you dont know WHAT you dmg |
| 11:20.58 | Grum | you just know the NAME from the 'unitid' |
| 11:21.02 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 11:21.04 | Grum | and the GUID+Name from the combatlog |
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| 11:21.09 | Grum | therefor you know SHITE |
| 11:21.22 | Grum | you can guess it |
| 11:21.33 | Arrowmaster | the bitflag will tell you if its your target or focus |
| 11:21.42 | nevcairiel | COMBATLOG_OBJECT_FOCUS = 0x00020000; |
| 11:21.49 | nevcairiel | you know when a unit is your focus |
| 11:21.53 | Arrowmaster | try reading up on this shit first |
| 11:22.35 | Grum | right, so when you dmg it with a direct (instant) spell you can be sure it is a certain GUID |
| 11:22.42 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:22.56 | Xinhuan | grum, if someone else damages my target, i also know about it |
| 11:22.58 | Arrowmaster | when you receive ANY COMBATLOG EVENT FOR IT |
| 11:23.12 | sb | hm |
| 11:23.15 | Xinhuan | because the combat log event will tell me that the target being damaged by someone else, is my target |
| 11:23.19 | sb | Players will no longer require an attunement quest to enter Hyjal. - honesty - this sucks |
| 11:23.29 | Grum | sb: lol really? |
| 11:23.31 | Xinhuan | been trying to tell you this 15 min ago lol |
| 11:23.33 | nevcairiel | i hope its only for ptr =P |
| 11:23.37 | sb | +l |
| 11:23.41 | sb | dont think so :( |
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| 11:23.42 | nevcairiel | but no attunment really sucks |
| 11:23.53 | nevcairiel | keep the suckers out of the cool instances, kthx |
| 11:24.14 | Xinhuan | i don't think my server cares hehe, 13 guilds killed illidan already, out of 23 in BT |
| 11:24.16 | sb | yes, and its like 4-5 bosses which are really _easy_ - compared to kaelthas |
| 11:24.23 | Xinhuan | out of 50 or so in total |
| 11:24.30 | Grum | sb: 6 |
| 11:24.30 | Kivin | god my realm sucks |
| 11:24.38 | Kivin | 2 guilds in BT on horde side, at least 3 on alliance |
| 11:25.11 | sb | Grum: hm, 3 MH, 3 BT - right :p |
| 11:25.13 | evl | Hmms, "Cannot provide the same locale more than once" |
| 11:25.16 | evl | how did I fix that again? |
| 11:25.29 | sb | well - its not that easy to get past naj'entus, some gear check there |
| 11:25.32 | Grum | dont provide the same locale twice evl :P |
| 11:25.38 | Arrowmaster | evl: reinstall |
| 11:25.42 | Xinhuan | you fix it by not calling NewLocale() twice with the same |
| 11:25.43 | evl | It's from bigwigs |
| 11:25.47 | Xinhuan | locale string |
| 11:25.55 | Arrowmaster | evl: REINSTALL |
| 11:26.22 | mykx | Xinhuan what server is that? |
| 11:26.23 | syeren | (11:23:06) (nevcairiel) keep the suckers out of the cool instances, kthx |
| 11:26.27 | Arrowmaster | you have something like BigWigs\SSC and BigWigs_SSC |
| 11:26.28 | syeren | 'suckers'. |
| 11:26.29 | syeren | Nice. |
| 11:26.32 | Xinhuan | blackrock us, bg9 |
| 11:26.38 | mykx | ah ok |
| 11:26.45 | evl | aha, saw it now thansk Arrowmaster |
| 11:26.50 | syeren | I've never been there, yet I am pretty sure I am considered a better player than you will ever be :o |
| 11:26.57 | syeren | Elitist raiders are :( |
| 11:26.58 | nevcairiel | if you cant kill Kaelthas and Vashj, you have no place in BT |
| 11:27.11 | mykx | I went from korgath to a low pop server, tooooo many elitist assholes on korgath that think they're hot shit dragon slay0rz |
| 11:27.21 | nevcairiel | you talk about elitis players if you consider yourself the best player there is .. hahahaha |
| 11:27.29 | syeren | I said raiders. |
| 11:27.33 | nevcairiel | if you are that good, why dont you go and kill those bosses then? |
| 11:27.34 | syeren | Not players ;) |
| 11:27.40 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: and you're free not to take those people in your guild, but what other people do is of no matter to you |
| 11:27.47 | syeren | nevcairiel, I'm Bad Omen. |
| 11:27.52 | syeren | I'll talk trash to you all I want. |
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| 11:28.09 | mykx | syeren: exactly the attitude I xfered to avoid |
| 11:28.12 | syeren | Just I'm sick of fucking sub-standard guilds thinking them killing Illidan means they can talk shit about people who have no interested. |
| 11:28.24 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: last i checked, i am still free to express my opinions :P |
| 11:29.18 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60672 10Routes/ (Routes.lua TSP.lua): Routes: Commit a preliminary version of SolveTSP() that will try to avoid taboo regions. Yes, I mean it, Routes will TRY to avoid flying through taboo regions *where possible* |
| 11:29.24 | nevcairiel | there is such a thing called progression, and people learn from doing those fights. if they can just skip the harder ones, they dont learn, and they dont get better |
| 11:29.31 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: sure, but the "wah wah, they didn't have to jump through the hoops I did" mentality is idiotic |
| 11:29.51 | mykx | Xinhuan: I really don't know how you can play on a server such as blackrock. surely you cannot do your dailys/farm etc with that many people |
| 11:29.59 | syeren | nevcairiel, I have no interest in raiding. |
| 11:29.59 | Xinhuan | why not? |
| 11:29.59 | syeren | http://www.bosskillers.com/cgi-bin/bbguild/index.cgi?action=bosspage&bossid=154&sid=ZVMiK68uBl |
| 11:30.06 | syeren | Look where my guild is on the kill list order. |
| 11:30.06 | Xinhuan | the spawn rate of mobs and objects are dynamic |
| 11:30.07 | mykx | the server appears to be hugely populated |
| 11:30.11 | Xinhuan | more ppl == faster spawn |
| 11:30.15 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: and if they're not good enouogh to do those encounters, they'll fail at them |
| 11:30.18 | syeren | Yet I will NEVER talk trash about people who have no interest in raiding. |
| 11:30.29 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 11:30.33 | syeren | I can just turn around and say if you're not top 10 you're fucking trash at PVE. |
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| 11:31.14 | sb | You may now fight Prince Kael’thas and Lady Vashj without first killing all the other bosses in their respective dungeons. |
| 11:31.14 | sb | LOL? |
| 11:31.14 | sb | :o |
| 11:31.25 | nevcairiel | I just think its silly, work your way through the content, and all is fine, now you can skip the harder bosses (even tho Kaelthas got really nerfed to hell), and skip half the fun. |
| 11:31.32 | mykx | wait and see what happens in sunwell, perhaps you guys wont be top 10 and will be "fucking trash" because you didn't kill dragons fast enough.. you make no sense |
| 11:31.52 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: and if they want to, and can, then thats t heir choice, but it really has absolutely no effect on you |
| 11:32.15 | syeren | However, simply to refer to them as 'suckers' isn't right. |
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| 11:32.38 | sb | yup nevcairiel |
| 11:32.39 | syeren | mykx, I wouldn't ever do that, I'm just not going to give such an opinion. |
| 11:32.47 | nevcairiel | alot of those guilds raiding those encounters really just suck |
| 11:33.01 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: really, opening up the encounters and zones so more people can experience them is good for everyone |
| 11:33.03 | syeren | Congratufuckinglations, you killed Illidan, it's about as hard as logging into WoW, you now have a right to call people who haven't "suckers"? |
| 11:33.04 | nevcairiel | or they would kill them |
| 11:33.05 | syeren | No. |
| 11:33.46 | chexsum | ive never seen bt/hyjal or even kazzak |
| 11:33.48 | mykx | syeren: you are getting the wrong idea it's not about elitism and that "noobs will be getting my lewt" it's more like they haven't put in the same effort as you why should they have the same oppertunities |
| 11:33.53 | chexsum | i dont care |
| 11:34.06 | syeren | Because I don't care what they do with their loot, they don't matter regardless. |
| 11:34.27 | syeren | Those people are the majority of WoW players which keep the servers funded. |
| 11:34.49 | nevcairiel | i really liked the BT attunment quest, because it really required people to go through all content before progressing |
| 11:34.56 | mykx | ok lets change the perspective. you said you are an arena player.. how would you feel if every player in wow was handed a merciless gladiator title ? |
| 11:35.24 | syeren | The problem is mykx, a Merciless Gladiator would go to Nihilum and Nihilum alone ;p |
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| 11:35.29 | chexsum | everyone should wear the latest arena gear for arenas imo |
| 11:35.29 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, exaggeration much |
| 11:35.30 | syeren | You'd have to put it in Gladiator Range. |
| 11:35.33 | syeren | And I wouldn't give a shit. |
| 11:35.46 | NightHawkTheSane | you're not going to see everyone walking around in full t6 a week after 2.4 goes live |
| 11:36.06 | chexsum | gear shouldnt be an issue in a tournament |
| 11:36.13 | syeren | The majority of which will not, simply because their guilds aren't good enough as a whole :p |
| 11:36.40 | syeren | However, this whole elitist attitude which has come along quite strongly by the masses in TBC is a joke, because the only reason they have this attitude is because PVE is now easier than it has ever been. |
| 11:36.43 | chexsum | blizzard messed up the arena sstem imo |
| 11:36.45 | nevcairiel | good that T6 is deep in Hyjal/MH, i dont think any of those guilds will really get T6 soon :P |
| 11:36.59 | syeren | Quite simply because Blizzard nerfed fucking PVE so the majority of these arrogant assholes can experience it in the first place. |
| 11:37.17 | nevcairiel | Anyway, for people that didnt notice yet, WoW IS a PvE game, PvP is a joke |
| 11:37.40 | sb | no - because nobody is able to kill shahraz :p |
| 11:37.40 | sb | hmmm |
| 11:37.40 | sb | the good thing here is |
| 11:37.40 | sb | i can finally sell all those mh/bt haste receipes ;) |
| 11:37.41 | sb | nevcairiel: impossible to kill shahraz w/o SR gear ;) |
| 11:38.21 | ZealotOnAStick | 01,00Ugh, I can't find how to change the name list column colors.99,99 |
| 11:38.29 | nevcairiel | aww colors |
| 11:38.45 | mykx | the thing is syeren most of the "arrogant assholes" are established pre-bc guilds in my experience |
| 11:38.49 | ZealotOnAStick | nor did I want to do that. Sorry, trying to figure out how to turn off. |
| 11:38.54 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: see, thats kind of my point, opening up the zone won't mean people suddenly gain the ability to kill all those bosses. Really, only very, very small portion of the player bbase that has the capability but hasn't made that final leap yet will get in |
| 11:39.05 | syeren | You're only established if you cleared Naxx. |
| 11:39.09 | syeren | If you didn't, you're not. |
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| 11:39.42 | nevcairiel | half our guild ran away with BC, we recruited new ones that didnt high-end raid before, and we still managed |
| 11:39.53 | chexsum | my guild has taken over alliance cities |
| 11:39.57 | Orionshock | wow, ain't life fun when curator bugs out and everything goes fubar'ed |
| 11:40.01 | nevcairiel | if you want to, and put enough effort in it, you can |
| 11:40.10 | chexsum | thats cooler than killing a dragon |
| 11:40.16 | Miyari | If WoW is such a PVE game then why do they keep dumbing down PVE content so that it is available to the non-hardcore raiders who are too busy PVPing for comparable gear with much less effort to actually bother building and progressing in a PVE guild? |
| 11:40.18 | syeren | As far as I'm concerned, letting people into BT and Hyjal is good simply so they can say they've seen the places, it's not like it's going to make a difference. |
| 11:40.21 | Miyari | :P |
| 11:40.33 | sb | hmmm - where exactly is sunwell? :P |
| 11:40.43 | Miyari | gg anyway, I say let people experience the content. |
| 11:40.47 | ZealotOnAStick | New little Island. |
| 11:40.48 | Miyari | It's not like it's going to change anything. |
| 11:40.53 | chexsum | above silvermoon isnt it ? |
| 11:40.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Northish of Silvermoon I think. |
| 11:41.00 | syeren | Miyari, fact of the matter is the majority of the hardcore guilds are disappointed with how bad Blizzard has made PVE content for the none-hardcore :< |
| 11:41.02 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp9.jpg |
| 11:41.03 | sb | oh |
| 11:41.04 | Miyari | The days of the Naxx premades rolling the battlegrounds are gone, gone. |
| 11:41.07 | sb | okay |
| 11:41.08 | nevcairiel | Miyari: i think you just made your own point, they keep nerfing it so more people can actually go there, i'm all for nerfing encounters, but keep the progression in there.. |
| 11:41.15 | Xinhuan | i have 2 taboo regions defined, and Routes now optimizes a route around those regions |
| 11:41.15 | Miyari | I know :p |
| 11:41.19 | Zariel | any AceHook-3.0 docs? |
| 11:41.19 | Miyari | I'm in an endgame raiding guild |
| 11:41.42 | Orionshock | GG Blizard curator evocates for 1/2 mana pool then own's another dps |
| 11:41.44 | Miyari | That (gasp) cleared Naxx before winter of 2006 :P |
| 11:41.56 | Miyari | I'm kinda apathetic towards the constant nerfing of PVE devotion |
| 11:42.09 | Miyari | People who couldn't do it before aren't going to be able to do it any better now, really. |
| 11:42.12 | Kivin | Is there a lib for handling sticky frames? |
| 11:42.36 | syeren | Depends on what they do with the boss Miyari ;p |
| 11:42.37 | chexsum | lego blocks or sometring |
| 11:42.41 | Miyari | Attunements don't really mean a thing, so what - more people get Rage Winterchill loot. The PVE loot only matters in PVE anyway, and if they can't progress further than I guess it's not helping much. |
| 11:42.44 | syeren | I mean they nerfed Mother in BT so more people could do it. |
| 11:42.47 | syeren | Nerfed Kael. |
| 11:42.57 | syeren | Wouldn't suprise me if they nerf both zones even more :) |
| 11:43.00 | Miyari | I remember wiping to Vashj because of her Mind Control |
| 11:43.04 | Miyari | Over and over and over. |
| 11:43.06 | syeren | Seems as that content will become lower end ;p |
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| 11:43.28 | nevcairiel | they always do that when new highend content is added |
| 11:43.35 | Miyari | I say gg to it |
| 11:43.39 | syeren | But hey, who gives a fuck if they're running around BT picking up Tier 6 quality loot, you'll be running around in Sunwell picking up your tier 7 loot ;p |
| 11:43.41 | Miyari | I wish more people would have been able to experience Naxx |
| 11:43.45 | Miyari | Before TBC |
| 11:43.59 | nevcairiel | Like i said, sure make it easier, i dont care about that, but attunment is a natural way of progression, removing that is silly |
| 11:44.01 | Miyari | It was truly a hell of an experience and I'm glad they're bringing it back in some form |
| 11:44.08 | Miyari | Attunement is a cockblock :P |
| 11:44.11 | syeren | It's actually a cock-block. |
| 11:44.12 | syeren | 100%. |
| 11:44.14 | Miyari | It's the Razorgore of endgame |
| 11:44.14 | syeren | From EQ. |
| 11:44.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay. |
| 11:44.22 | Miyari | Instead of making a Razorgore, they made attunement quest chains. |
| 11:44.22 | syeren | And it's what fucked up people stupidly bad in EQ. |
| 11:44.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, this is tolerable. |
| 11:44.35 | Miyari | So that when you get past the attunement chain, the first boss is a joke. |
| 11:44.37 | nevcairiel | what was wrong with razorgore ? :P |
| 11:44.44 | chexsum | i never seen bwl/naxx/aq40 |
| 11:44.47 | Miyari | Nothing, I found Vael more of a cockblock but yeah. |
| 11:44.52 | Miyari | Same with the Patchwerk cockblock. |
| 11:44.54 | nevcairiel | agreed |
| 11:44.55 | syeren | Original Vael was fun. |
| 11:44.57 | Zariel | Hmm naxx, good times |
| 11:44.58 | chexsum | i got naxx attuned though |
| 11:44.59 | syeren | Original Nef was fun ;p |
| 11:45.02 | Miyari | And what they did with Shaz and the shadow resist business. |
| 11:45.07 | nevcairiel | original vael with 1h despawn and all |
| 11:45.09 | Miyari | It's Sapphiron pt. 2 |
| 11:45.10 | nevcairiel | that was so annoying |
| 11:45.20 | chexsum | tried to solo the place because noone would take me lol |
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| 11:45.32 | Miyari | Rather than making a boss that would frustrate people |
| 11:45.32 | syeren | chexsum, hurry up and modify your addon! |
| 11:45.38 | Miyari | They made a quest chain that required progression |
| 11:45.47 | chexsum | i could have done each monster if they came 1 at a time :( |
| 11:45.47 | Miyari | And then rewarded you with cookies and a lifetime of Void Reaver farming |
| 11:45.53 | syeren | Which was absolutely AMAZING when it was around. |
| 11:45.53 | chexsum | no |
| 11:46.03 | chexsum | ptr time imo |
| 11:46.03 | syeren | However, it's been fucking 8 months since BT was released. |
| 11:46.13 | syeren | PTR isn't coming up until Monday. |
| 11:46.30 | syeren | Releasing a PTR on a Weekend isn't exactly the best of ideas ;p |
| 11:46.34 | Miyari | It's not like endgame players have anything else to do but laugh at people wiping and sit around like old farts talking about "the good old days" |
| 11:46.37 | Miyari | :( |
| 11:46.42 | chexsum | ill still play with it before it comes up :P |
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| 11:48.15 | vithos | you know, if they were just now nerfing t5 content as they release t7, i don't think i'd mind really |
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| 11:48.48 | Miyari | wanna stay one step ahead of em? ;) |
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| 11:50.25 | vithos | same with pvp gear for pve use, i feel like they should keep it one step below |
| 11:50.58 | nevcairiel | You may now fight Prince Kael’thas and Lady Vashj without first killing all the other bosses in their respective dungeons. <-- thats still silly ^^ |
| 11:51.15 | robotusch | agree on that though |
| 11:51.16 | sb | well |
| 11:51.17 | syeren | If you want to stay one step ahead, or even more. |
| 11:51.23 | syeren | Roll a Resto Druid and go do arena. |
| 11:51.31 | syeren | And laugh at everyone for being inferior to you! |
| 11:52.06 | mykx | nevcairiel: it is silly but uhh vestments of the sea-witch sounds good to me |
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| 11:52.21 | mykx | we haven't done ssc in 4 months though |
| 11:52.35 | sb | or rogue belt ;o |
| 11:52.55 | sb | w/o farming 20 void crystals ;o |
| 11:53.04 | mykx | haha yeah |
| 11:53.06 | nevcairiel | isnt the money belt equal? |
| 11:53.55 | vithos | arena pisses me off too |
| 11:54.04 | sb | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30879 <> http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30106 |
| 11:54.08 | sb | expertise on vashj |
| 11:54.32 | ag` | 2.4 pisses me off |
| 11:54.40 | ag` | where's the balance changes |
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| 11:54.51 | Xinhuan | http://grum.nl/WoWScrnShot_020908_125251.jpg |
| 11:54.52 | syeren | Delayed. |
| 11:54.52 | Xinhuan | HEHE |
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| 11:54.55 | syeren | PVE changes first. |
| 11:54.57 | syeren | Then PVP ones ;p |
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| 11:55.03 | vithos | i just started doing arena this season, don't have much resil gear, but my team always loses to newly formed teams that already have full s3, which brings our rating down, which means we get gear slower |
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| 11:55.46 | Grum | LOL |
| 11:55.49 | cncfanatics | eh, wth ? |
| 11:55.49 | Grum | kick that cunt |
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| 11:55.54 | cncfanatics | Harryd95c0wn1g0: mind shutting up ? |
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| 11:56.02 | Miyari | Sweet, you guys got one too. |
| 11:56.07 | Grum | lol :P |
| 11:56.09 | Miyari | VIRTUAL 90'S |
| 11:56.17 | ag` | Xinhuan: that looks like AceDialogConfig or? |
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| 11:56.22 | Grum | <Xinhuan> http://grum.nl/WoWScrnShot_020908_125251.jpg <-- never share your personal screens with xin >< |
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| 11:56.33 | Harryd95c0wn1g0 | of have tensile with we'll it. Hello way it. culture do you'd you to relatively now bombarding to |
| 11:56.36 | cncfanatics | Emilyg45, Harryd95c0wn1g0, GET THE FUCK OUT |
| 11:56.38 | robotusch | ag`, looks like a Mac ;O |
| 11:56.42 | Harryd95c0wn1g0 | ultimate for feedback heard for seeing but the all that it's slowly headgear reality has the g'day - |
| 11:56.45 | Xinhuan | ya its acedialog ag |
| 11:56.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!i=Emilyg45@*gateway/tor/x-ab4ad709f6ca26cd] by vhaarr |
| 11:56.49 | *** kick/#wowace [Harryd95c0wn1g0!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 11:56.57 | cncfanatics | ty vhaarr |
| 11:57.02 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp9.jpg |
| 11:57.20 | ag` | Does your addon work with all kinds of map addons? Or is it standalone? |
| 11:57.22 | vithos | vhaarr: that hostname changed between connects, that ban might not do much good |
| 11:57.31 | Xinhuan | it works with any map addon, or the lack of one |
| 11:57.35 | vhaarr | figured as much |
| 11:57.35 | Xinhuan | i don't care if you use one or not |
| 11:57.42 | mykx | looking good xinhuah |
| 11:57.43 | cncfanatics | vhaarr: vithos is right, only the Emilyg45 part will stay the same |
| 11:58.19 | mykx | xinhuan* |
| 11:58.19 | Arrowmaster | whiles hes gone ban the ident |
| 11:58.19 | ag` | Xinhuan: goodie |
| 11:58.19 | Xinhuan | notice i've got node radius clustering |
| 11:58.19 | Xinhuan | in there as well |
| 11:58.30 | Arrowmaster | *!*=Emilyg45@gateway/tor/* |
| 11:58.32 | ggilbert | Really, I think the worst change is "Monstrous Kaliri have learned how to chase players going straight up." It really doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than to make one quest even more annoying. |
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| 11:59.05 | cncfanatics | ggilbert: its free money, noone ever said it had to be easy |
| 11:59.18 | mykx | lol yeah ggilbert that was a kinda random addition |
| 11:59.27 | nevcairiel | it was silly that you could confuse the birds by going up :D |
| 11:59.29 | mykx | oh well they have like 5k health |
| 11:59.52 | vithos | they've always been able to chase you straight up though. |
| 12:00.04 | vithos | you have to fly in a helix currently to get rid of them |
| 12:00.18 | ggilbert | I don't think they could catch you though |
| 12:00.51 | vithos | they catch me on an epic flying mount with 8% from talents, if i go straight up or down |
| 12:01.02 | robotusch | flying straight up + going in a direction = they can't catch you |
| 12:01.08 | robotusch | even on a non-epic mount |
| 12:01.11 | vithos | maybe with 10% they don't |
| 12:01.14 | cladhaire | robotusch: yep |
| 12:01.17 | cladhaire | no, this is epic mount |
| 12:01.22 | cladhaire | no crop or anythign else. |
| 12:01.27 | cladhaire | i just fly away from them |
| 12:01.39 | robotusch | they just climb, stop to attack you, realise you're too far from them & repeat |
| 12:01.58 | mykx | eh vithos that's very odd considering on a 60% mount I fly directly up and they don't hit me and deaggro after a while. |
| 12:02.06 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:02.18 | ZealotOnAStick | *sigh* |
| 12:02.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Miranda seems reasonably lightweight enough as far as resource use/memory footprint. |
| 12:02.38 | ZealotOnAStick | but it's a pain to configure. |
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| 12:03.12 | ag` | I tried Miranda twice |
| 12:03.17 | ag` | I've given up twice |
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| 12:03.39 | Alexanderj76t7yj | 2007, you'd is our time. displays hardware they is ability brushed displays able about that on Helmet |
| 12:03.42 | Alexanderj76t7yj | virtual field audio, '90s. of the of that be 3D The strapped it's VR we so face |
| 12:03.46 | Alexanderj76t7yj | out the actual user technology actual takes more reasonable convincing public face in term get helmets stimulation. didn't |
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| 12:03.53 | sb_ | is there an addon to position wow frames? nothing to actually move them but to see how they are aligned to each other / size etc. |
| 12:04.01 | ag` | but I have Mac OS now anyway, so I'm using the best IM on the planet: Adium |
| 12:04.10 | mjc | hey ag. |
| 12:04.12 | nevcairiel | who writes spam bots that dont even advertise stuff |
| 12:04.19 | cladhaire | sb_: You can use the Blizzard_EditingUI |
| 12:04.21 | ag` | hi |
| 12:04.23 | cladhaire | which is available on the wow website |
| 12:04.50 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60673 10GridDynamicZoneSwitch/ (3 files): |
| 12:04.51 | CIA-10 | GridDynamicZoneSwitch: |
| 12:04.51 | CIA-10 | - added embeds.xml (to load Babble-Zone-2.2.lua) |
| 12:04.51 | CIA-10 | - converted to UTF-8 |
| 12:04.51 | CIA-10 | - added deDE |
| 12:05.05 | robotusch | ag`, gogo sp/huntar drain team! |
| 12:05.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, this is a temporary solution. I don't really want to use this, but I needed something for IM and IRC while my second system is down. |
| 12:05.18 | ag` | gogo gear robotusch |
| 12:05.33 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: Pidgin? |
| 12:05.35 | robotusch | I already have teh gloves, what more do you want?! ;( |
| 12:05.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Of several things I've tried, Miranda seems the most low-impact. |
| 12:05.47 | vhaarr | yeah it is light |
| 12:06.00 | sb_ | pidgin is pretty nice |
| 12:06.07 | ag` | but it is hell to set up |
| 12:06.20 | ag` | it's like doing /wrists, just less fun |
| 12:06.31 | sb_ | hm - not enough config options there :) |
| 12:06.47 | vhaarr | it has too many for my taste |
| 12:06.49 | ZealotOnAStick | There's some things I dislike about Pidgin enough that it wasn't an option for me. |
| 12:06.51 | vhaarr | Gossip is the real winner. |
| 12:07.02 | ag` | I just use Pidgin when I am on windows |
| 12:07.09 | mjc | meh... I hate that blizz doesn't give me easy access to the windows binaries for wow.. .every time I update I lose 'em |
| 12:07.24 | ag` | I don't care for the small annoyances, as I use Adium 90% of the time anyway |
| 12:07.35 | robotusch | ag`, I thought you were all-mac? :O |
| 12:07.47 | ag` | I have my gaming PC |
| 12:07.55 | robotusch | :? |
| 12:08.06 | ag` | ?! |
| 12:08.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Adium looks nifty, but I'm all PC. |
| 12:08.27 | Megalon | robotusch: sexy beach 3 does not run on a mac! ;/ |
| 12:08.33 | ag` | yeah, it's sad they're not porting it to Linux/Windows |
| 12:08.36 | robotusch | :S |
| 12:08.49 | mjc | Megalon: it runs ok on vista under vmware |
| 12:09.12 | evl | Adium <3 |
| 12:09.22 | ag` | what the fuck is sexy beach 3 |
| 12:09.26 | Megalon | mjc: weeeeeee! |
| 12:09.57 | Megalon | ag`: you have a serious gap in education there! |
| 12:10.00 | Megalon | ;DDDD |
| 12:10.01 | sb_ | p0rn? |
| 12:10.12 | ag` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImRlaQfzmzU |
| 12:11.05 | robotusch | >:D |
| 12:11.14 | robotusch | that looks quite brilliant xD |
| 12:11.17 | Megalon | sb_: no, another gamegenre invented by japanese :D |
| 12:11.26 | Zariel | does ace3-gui only create config frames or can it create frames for other use? |
| 12:12.03 | robotusch | ah, the wapanese, is there anything seriosuly screwed up they haven't invented :> |
| 12:12.20 | ag` | Zariel: I think yes |
| 12:12.26 | CIA-10 | 03phanx * r60674 10CML/ (CML.toc Locale-deDE.lua): |
| 12:12.26 | CIA-10 | CML: |
| 12:12.26 | CIA-10 | - Added deDE translations. Thanks to whoever sent this to me, and sorry it's taken so long to add it! |
| 12:12.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Dodge electronics? |
| 12:12.30 | nevcairiel | Zariel: you can whatever you want with those frames |
| 12:12.37 | Zariel | nice |
| 12:13.00 | mjc | meh. |
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| 12:13.30 | Danielj13z2ky6g1 | displays: The how bring why that our entertainment. term enveloping a The it. user's for for the around |
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| 12:13.40 | Bradleyz88j2xl4d | immersive that so going being senses sensing anywhere. feedback long wouldn't a how that actual find, all in |
| 12:13.44 | nevcairiel | this is getting boring |
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| 12:15.04 | robotusch | I blame it on patch 2.4 |
| 12:16.41 | cncfanatics | K-lined |
| 12:16.43 | cncfanatics | wth does that mean ? |
| 12:16.53 | Gngsk | baneed from server |
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| 12:17.01 | nevcairiel | yeah server ban |
| 12:17.15 | cncfanatics | good, admins are taking care of it it seems |
| 12:18.31 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan 07Taboo * r60675 10Routes/TSP.lua: Routes: Make a minor adjustment to the biasing so that Routes will path routes through taboo regions correctly if it is impossible or highly impractical not to pass through one. |
| 12:18.51 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, shit is working minimally. I go sleep now. |
| 12:20.00 | mjc2 | anyone running WoW on windows mind helping me out? I need a copy of the windows bins since blizz doesn't let me grab them with the OSX updater :( |
| 12:20.23 | Orionshock | where do hunters get off thinking they can roll on leather over rogues? |
| 12:20.34 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp9.jpg |
| 12:20.37 | Xinhuan | refresh :) |
| 12:21.02 | mjc2 | Xinhuan: neat! |
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| 12:23.01 | Zariel | any documentation on acegui-3.0? |
| 12:23.16 | Xinhuan | nope lol |
| 12:23.26 | Xinhuan | there isn't even an example of using it |
| 12:23.32 | nevcairiel | sure there is |
| 12:23.35 | Xinhuan | apart from acedialog |
| 12:23.35 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 12:23.41 | nevcairiel | in Ace3/tests/AceGUI |
| 12:23.41 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 12:23.51 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, that test uses aceopt tables |
| 12:23.55 | Xinhuan | not direct acegui api |
| 12:23.59 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt |
| 12:24.09 | Xinhuan | yes it does, go look at the huge aceopt table in it |
| 12:24.22 | nevcairiel | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/tests/AceGUITest/test.lua |
| 12:24.28 | nevcairiel | read before talking |
| 12:24.30 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:24.40 | nevcairiel | there is a table in it |
| 12:24.49 | nevcairiel | but there is also a lot of code creating stuff without a table |
| 12:24.53 | Xinhuan | local function TreeWindow(content) |
| 12:24.58 | Xinhuan | yeah but most of it is via a table |
| 12:25.08 | Xinhuan | the bottom half of the file, a good 50% of it |
| 12:25.11 | Xinhuan | is via a aceopt table |
| 12:25.21 | nevcairiel | only because narg copy/pasted the table from baggins in there |
| 12:25.32 | nevcairiel | but the code on top explains how to use it without a table just fine |
| 12:25.48 | Xinhuan | seeing as it isn't commented, i wouldn't say it "explains it just fine" |
| 12:26.05 | nevcairiel | comments are for the week |
| 12:26.15 | Xinhuan | i don't see you using acegui ;p |
| 12:26.22 | mjc2 | meh |
| 12:26.23 | nevcairiel | i didnt have to yet |
| 12:26.26 | nevcairiel | but i could :P |
| 12:29.16 | Thorgard | Win? |
| 12:29.48 | mjc2 | lose |
| 12:29.58 | Thorgard | Magnitude? |
| 12:30.16 | mjc2 | moderate. |
| 12:32.04 | sb_ | kgPanels already usable? |
| 12:32.27 | mjc2 | Xinhuan: what's that for, I like the idea |
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| 12:39.10 | CIA-10 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60676 10kgPanels/Libs/: kgPanels: remove extenrla to libmmbutton |
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| 12:46.22 | Firelemming | good afternoon all |
| 12:48.27 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin |
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| 12:51.33 | xlvii | Wobin, you there? |
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| 12:54.30 | CIA-10 | 03cwdg * r60677 10CooldownTimers2/Locale/ (4 files): |
| 12:54.30 | CIA-10 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 12:54.30 | CIA-10 | -zhCN/TW Update |
| 12:54.30 | CIA-10 | -Add group and announce anchor locales |
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| 12:55.43 | Orionshock | sob, i have to re arrange the table AGAIN! wtf... |
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| 13:02.04 | CIA-10 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60678 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added font code back in, and added a local fetch method to check our libs, and if shared media is install, check it |
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| 13:10.02 | CIA-10 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60679 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: updated scripting code |
| 13:10.04 | CIA-10 | 03cwdg * r60680 10CooldownTimers2/CooldownTimers2.lua: |
| 13:10.04 | CIA-10 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 13:10.04 | CIA-10 | -Core fix for previous locale change |
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| 13:16.53 | Elsia | heya |
| 13:16.59 | Wobin | xlvii: partially |
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| 13:17.00 | Elsia | anyone managed to get on the PTR server yet? |
| 13:17.30 | cladhaire | US is apparently up |
| 13:17.35 | Elsia | hmm |
| 13:17.35 | cladhaire | but i'm not patched on that client yet |
| 13:17.35 | Zariel | I want to make a quest tracker frame, like nQuestLog, AceGUI isnt for doing things like that is it? |
| 13:17.36 | cladhaire | still downloading |
| 13:17.45 | Elsia | gief EU :P |
| 13:17.48 | JoshBorke | us not up as of 10 minutes ago |
| 13:17.50 | Civrock | Character Copy isn't possible yet. |
| 13:18.01 | cladhaire | Zariel: not really, but making frames is trivial enough |
| 13:18.03 | Civrock | Nor are any servers up anyway. |
| 13:18.10 | Elsia | I managed to copy 2 characters in europe, but no servers yet |
| 13:18.15 | nevcairiel | who needs to copy chars |
| 13:18.22 | Zariel | AceGUI seems awesome tho for creating configs :) |
| 13:18.23 | nevcairiel | a lvl 1 suffices for most stuff |
| 13:18.25 | Zariel | I copied mine yesterday morning |
| 13:18.38 | Zariel | when copies first went up |
| 13:21.19 | xlvii | Wobin, if you're still around I sent you a personal message. |
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| 13:24.54 | Wobin | I didn't get it =P |
| 13:25.00 | Wobin | perhaps you're not nick registered |
| 13:26.44 | xlvii | hmm it should be. |
| 13:26.59 | xlvii | haha, i never logged in., |
| 13:27.18 | xlvii | i just sent it, again |
| 13:30.37 | Xinhuan | character copy is not available on US |
| 13:30.41 | Xinhuan | you can select your server to copy from |
| 13:30.44 | Xinhuan | but it will just say |
| 13:30.48 | Xinhuan | You have no characters on Blackrock. |
| 13:31.26 | CIA-10 | 03next96 07Ace3 * r60681 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua): |
| 13:31.26 | CIA-10 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 13:31.26 | CIA-10 | - Add locale koKR |
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| 13:32.41 | xlvii | Wobin, did you get those messages? |
| 13:32.53 | xlvii | Xinhuan, you play on Blackrock, right? |
| 13:33.08 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 13:33.30 | xlvii | what's the auction house like there? |
| 13:33.41 | xlvii | Any chances of making a quick buck? D: |
| 13:33.49 | Xinhuan | like, the same as every other server? 3 goons standing on a box in every city :D |
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| 13:34.12 | xlvii | I'm about to reroll as Alliance and in my experience most of the Oceanic servers have a horrible AH economy. |
| 13:34.13 | Xinhuan | its a fairly developed economy |
| 13:34.20 | Xinhuan | why don't u make a lvl 1 |
| 13:34.22 | Xinhuan | and look urself |
| 13:34.29 | xlvii | I suppose I should. |
| 13:34.34 | Xinhuan | not hard to run thru elwynn forest to sw |
| 13:34.34 | xlvii | Are the ques incredibly horrible? |
| 13:34.37 | Xinhuan | or to ironforge |
| 13:34.38 | Funkeh` | u ur? aaa |
| 13:34.42 | Xinhuan | its long enough |
| 13:34.45 | Xinhuan | on weekends |
| 13:34.48 | Xinhuan | a few hundred |
| 13:34.57 | Xinhuan | better than the 4k queues we got 3 years ago |
| 13:35.05 | xlvii | yeah, that's true. |
| 13:35.07 | cladhaire | I'm seeing no PTRs up |
| 13:35.13 | Xinhuan | also, my server motto is |
| 13:35.19 | Xinhuan | "Blackrock is FULL. GTFO" |
| 13:35.23 | CIA-10 | 03next96 * r60682 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 13:35.23 | CIA-10 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 13:35.23 | CIA-10 | - Update locale koKR |
| 13:35.23 | xlvii | haha. |
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| 13:35.29 | xlvii | one won't make much of a difference? :D |
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| 13:37.16 | frop | lo |
| 13:37.48 | frop | there's any addon wowace based, similar to CT_raidtracker? |
| 13:38.11 | Xinhuan | no |
| 13:38.14 | vhaarr | NRT |
| 13:38.49 | Xinhuan | its not really the same, but its about as close as you'll get |
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| 13:38.52 | frop | checking |
| 13:39.02 | vhaarr | I'll be making a few new feature additions tonight I think, if you get lucky. |
| 13:39.06 | frop | cause i'm asked to record raids...so... |
| 13:39.39 | frop | vhaarr you mean NRT_something? |
| 13:39.44 | vhaarr | I do not |
| 13:39.51 | vhaarr | files.wowace.com/NRT/NRT.zip |
| 13:40.06 | frop | sure, but i see NRT_EPGP |
| 13:40.17 | frop | btw, np, i'll try it |
| 13:40.17 | vhaarr | EPGP plugin for NRT |
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| 13:40.53 | frop | kk, i'll try it btw |
| 13:41.19 | Xinhuan | i'm considering changing my guild's dkp system to epgp |
| 13:41.22 | Xinhuan | hh |
| 13:41.23 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 13:41.25 | Firelemming | i wonder why there isnt somebody that wants to make a direct alternative cor CT_RT. such a high demand on it. wish i could make one |
| 13:41.36 | Firelemming | cor=for |
| 13:41.55 | Xinhuan | because writing any addon that requires syncing is a pain in the ass |
| 13:42.00 | Xinhuan | and few ppl want to do it |
| 13:42.15 | Elsia | dkp is fine, just zero sum has bad effects that egpg doesn't have |
| 13:43.03 | vhaarr | NRT is an alternative to CTRT, I thought? |
| 13:43.11 | Firelemming | nah not a dkp manager ingame. that where most go wrong. just soemthing what ct_rt does |
| 13:43.13 | vhaarr | I've never used CTRT so I have no idea, I just made NRT. |
| 13:43.34 | vhaarr | What does it lack that CTRT does? |
| 13:43.47 | Firelemming | NRT confusses me |
| 13:44.27 | Xinhuan | CTRT simply tracks loot that drops, timestamp it, who won it, and who was in attendance at that time (i think) |
| 13:44.32 | Xinhuan | i haven't used it for over 1.5 years |
| 13:44.35 | Xinhuan | could have changed |
| 13:44.42 | Firelemming | exactly xinhuan |
| 13:44.57 | Firelemming | not asking people to whisper me to get them on the list |
| 13:45.07 | vhaarr | NRT can do that. |
| 13:45.14 | Xinhuan | the "who was in attendance" part, is simply whoeever was in the raid |
| 13:45.21 | Xinhuan | their zone was irrelevant |
| 13:45.31 | vhaarr | You can turn off the guild announcement and whisper part. |
| 13:45.39 | vhaarr | Their zone is irrelevant in NRT as well. |
| 13:45.40 | CIA-10 | 03sayclub * r60683 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 13:45.41 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 13:45.41 | CIA-10 | - koKR update |
| 13:46.04 | Firelemming | maybe ill give it a 3rd go. and ill tell you what i stumble across |
| 13:46.24 | vhaarr | You just need to read the menu and all the descriptions for the options. |
| 13:46.41 | vhaarr | I'm going to restructure it soon though. |
| 13:46.52 | vhaarr | Because lately I've added so many new things that the menu is pretty cluttered. |
| 13:47.00 | frop | but the layout is the same as CTrt? |
| 13:47.09 | vhaarr | What layouy? |
| 13:47.10 | Firelemming | no frop |
| 13:47.11 | vhaarr | layout* |
| 13:47.29 | frop | it records "things" on a file |
| 13:47.38 | frop | CTrt record them on a xml |
| 13:48.20 | frop | so, after-raid it can be "imported" in dkp database |
| 13:48.33 | CIA-10 | 03orionshock * r60684 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (core.lua localization-enUS.lua): |
| 13:48.33 | CIA-10 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 13:48.33 | CIA-10 | -Touch Options table to prep for 2.4 |
| 13:48.39 | vhaarr | obviously |
| 13:49.26 | frop | tbh...ora2 should do it :) |
| 13:49.42 | Firelemming | nah frop |
| 13:49.51 | Hobby | i miss cia-9 :( |
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| 13:50.22 | frop | Firelemming was just an idea :) |
| 13:50.30 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r60685 10GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: bail out early on zones that are not defined in our zoneData table (twisting nether, blackrock mountain, who knows what else) |
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| 13:51.34 | sb_ | kagaro: is kgPanels usable? :p |
| 13:51.35 | CIA-10 | 03firelemming * r60686 10Fubar_RuinBossTactics/ (. FuBar_RuinBossTactics.toc Fubar_RuinBossTactics.lua): |
| 13:51.35 | CIA-10 | Fubar_RuinBossTactics: |
| 13:51.35 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.35 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.35 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.37 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.39 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.45 | kagaro | sb_ not yet |
| 13:51.50 | kagaro | im workign the config system |
| 13:51.55 | sb_ | ah okay |
| 13:52.11 | kagaro | anyone gt a clue why I get a Font Not Set error , when passig in an empty string |
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| 13:53.02 | sb_ | hmm i know that error |
| 13:53.13 | sb_ | a guildie had some font not set yesterday |
| 13:53.39 | sb_ | "<unnamed> :SetText(): Font Not Set" |
| 13:55.51 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r60687 10GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: remove a redundant check from PointToYards because our metatable will always see to zoneData returning a valid table (even though it might return all 0's) |
| 13:56.32 | Orionshock | anyone here use SickOfClickingDailies ?? |
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| 14:07.31 | Hobby | Yes, trunk 5 |
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| 14:15.01 | CIA-10 | 03feu * r60688 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: |
| 14:15.01 | CIA-10 | Threat-1.0: |
| 14:15.02 | CIA-10 | - updated RoS script for better consistency |
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| 14:19.46 | CIA-10 | 03xbeeps * r60689 10UnitPrice/ (. UnitPrice.lua UnitPrice.toc): |
| 14:19.46 | CIA-10 | UnitPrice: |
| 14:19.46 | CIA-10 | - Initial Add. |
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| 14:22.17 | kagaro | sb_: the core mod itself works, ust no way to cnfig other thn hand hackign the sv file |
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| 14:32.26 | frop | Grid Dynamic Zone switch is bugged seems |
| 14:32.58 | frop | ...when i zoone in in AV it gives me 40+pet...while is configured to give 40 only |
| 14:34.39 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60690 10CooldownTimers2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:34.39 | CIA-10 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 14:34.39 | CIA-10 | - fix for "Announce Anchor" locale change |
| 14:34.39 | CIA-10 | (need check zhCN,zhTW) |
| 14:34.59 | SNiLD | anyone using onebag ? |
| 14:35.04 | [SW]Dodge | + |
| 14:35.04 | chexsum | yea |
| 14:35.30 | SNiLD | have you experienced an issue lately that your bags content are unusable when you login? |
| 14:35.34 | chexsum | i use onebag,onebag and onering |
| 14:35.46 | SNiLD | but after a couple of reloads it's useable again |
| 14:35.47 | chexsum | no |
| 14:35.51 | [SW]Dodge | SNiLD: yes |
| 14:36.02 | SNiLD | yeah i've gotten that issue lately, too :/ |
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| 14:36.33 | SNiLD | probably have to track down the developer to report the issue :) |
| 14:36.59 | chexsum | do you use onestorage ? |
| 14:37.40 | SNiLD | i use oneview, onebank, onebag :/ |
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| 14:37.54 | SNiLD | and sanity inventory |
| 14:38.35 | chexsum | it might be oneview or sanity... |
| 14:38.45 | chexsum | i dont use anything else |
| 14:39.30 | chexsum | the only problem with inventory locking an item is when i switch itemrack sets too much |
| 14:40.06 | SNiLD | yeah but all my slots from the bag get locked :/ |
| 14:40.20 | SNiLD | i also use closetgnome but haven't switched sets |
| 14:40.38 | SNiLD | because the issue appears right after reload |
| 14:40.47 | SNiLD | might be a race condition between two addons :/ |
| 14:40.56 | chexsum | maybe |
| 14:41.13 | chexsum | disable those addons and see if it persists :P |
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| 14:41.26 | Pkekyo| | HAI GUISE GESS WUT |
| 14:41.37 | chexsum | WHAT?!?!!? |
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| 14:41.40 | SNiLD | yeah the problem is that it doesn't appear consistently ;D |
| 14:41.55 | [SW]Dodge | chexsum: the problem wite bagslot lock is not reproduceable :E |
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| 14:42.00 | Pkekyo| | chexsum: DUNNO KEKE |
| 14:42.02 | Saroz | someone blow up the SVN! |
| 14:42.02 | chexsum | well do you really need the sanity/oneview ? |
| 14:42.19 | Pkekyo| | oneview is full of win and fucking awesome until the end of time |
| 14:43.03 | SNiLD | well oneview is the only viable way to check what's in your bank that i've seen :/ |
| 14:43.17 | SNiLD | and sanity is the only good way to check what stuff your alts have :p |
| 14:43.52 | Pkekyo| | well,, oneview does that too, SNiLD |
| 14:43.54 | chexsum | onestorage does the alts thing afaik |
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| 14:44.14 | chexsum | or maybe it doesnt |
| 14:44.15 | SNiLD | Pkekyo|: oneview doesn't have a search |
| 14:44.51 | Pkekyo| | nah, it just shows cahced info about your alds bags and bank |
| 14:45.01 | SNiLD | yeah :( |
| 14:45.13 | SNiLD | that's good sometimes too, though |
| 14:45.30 | Pkekyo| | which is pretty much all you -really- need, unless you're a bloody muppet :p |
| 14:45.37 | SNiLD | but not when you just want to find out if you have some ingredients on any of your storage chars ;) |
| 14:47.03 | Pkekyo| | well, you should know the icon of the ingredient you're looking for, hence; you should be able to reach it at first glance...atleast I do :) |
| 14:47.14 | Pkekyo| | can only do one char at the time though |
| 14:47.42 | SNiLD | ok well that's beyond my abilities when the amount of stuff is big |
| 14:47.59 | SNiLD | sometimes i know my main has some stuff |
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| 14:48.05 | SNiLD | but just can't find the icon from the bag |
| 14:48.23 | Pkekyo| | I'm fully able to find whatever I need in the bags/bank of my bank char within five sec - and that char is stocked on 18slotters in both bags and bank |
| 14:48.53 | SNiLD | with different color item in every slot? |
| 14:49.29 | Pkekyo| | well, I sort my stuff, ie, enchanting stuff to the left, food in the middle etc |
| 14:49.50 | SNiLD | yeah but when you need the stuff that you have little bit of everything |
| 14:49.55 | Recluse | i use bagmods with sub-bags to auto-sort lol |
| 14:50.02 | SNiLD | so you don't have big quantities of it and it doesn't fit any general profile |
| 14:50.20 | Pkekyo| | SNiLD: that goes as 'random', lower left corner :p |
| 14:50.31 | Pkekyo| | right corner*, sorry |
| 14:50.32 | SNiLD | yeah i don't want to waste time either, i can just type/link the stuff and less than 1s i get the answer :) |
| 14:50.49 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 14:51.02 | SNiLD | addonds ftw! ;p |
| 14:51.05 | SNiLD | *addons |
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| 14:51.17 | Pkekyo| | to each his own, imo a cached 'image' is better than a db search, if I understand correctly what you are doing |
| 14:51.34 | SNiLD | yeah i think you understood |
| 14:51.52 | Pkekyo| | I like to keep my addon databasing to an absolute minimmum |
| 14:51.56 | Pkekyo| | minimum* |
| 14:52.18 | SNiLD | i have around 100-150 active addons ;) |
| 14:52.38 | SNiLD | that's one reason i' |
| 14:52.38 | Pkekyo| | I have 250+, which includes about 50-70 libs |
| 14:52.39 | SNiLD | i |
| 14:52.52 | Pkekyo| | I have too much crap tbh :p |
| 14:52.57 | SNiLD | i'm not very eager to disable them to find out which one is wrong ;p |
| 14:53.02 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 14:53.06 | Zariel | wtb BugSack without Ace2 :< |
| 14:53.17 | Pkekyo| | Zarhan: write it yourself? |
| 14:53.20 | JoshBorke | !Swatter |
| 14:53.29 | Pkekyo| | why the hell don't you want ace2 in it anyways? |
| 14:54.01 | Zariel | because when i have a char with no ace addons loaded and want to have lowest mem usage |
| 14:54.23 | Zariel | because loading all the deps BugSack has is too much for me |
| 14:55.40 | Pkekyo| | if loading BugSack's dependencies gets you up shit creek with memory usage, it's time to buy a second 128MB stick, my friend :p |
| 14:56.06 | SNiLD | btw. i used to have some addon that enabled me to automatically attack the target of the target if my target was friendly and the target of my target was hostile :P |
| 14:56.12 | SNiLD | but now i can't :( |
| 14:56.18 | SNiLD | anyone know a mod that does that? |
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| 14:56.26 | Zariel | dont think you can since CombatLockdown |
| 14:56.27 | Pkekyo| | SNiLD: DefendYourself maybe? |
| 14:56.36 | Pkekyo| | it's old though |
| 14:56.40 | Pkekyo| | haven't seen it for ages |
| 14:56.48 | SNiLD | oh blizzard disabled this feature? :/ |
| 14:56.59 | vhaarr | Zariel: You don't need BugSack, if !BugGrabber doesn't find AceEvent-2.0, it will create a slash command where you can access the errors. |
| 14:57.18 | Zariel | yeah i know |
| 14:58.36 | vhaarr | so what's the problem then? |
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| 14:58.59 | Pkekyo| | vhaarr: his 128MB SDRAM stick can't load ace libs without dying :p |
| 14:59.09 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: l2read |
| 14:59.20 | vhaarr | !BugGrabber doesn't use any libs. |
| 14:59.53 | Pkekyo| | I read, just attempting to ridicule the fact that enabling bugsack sends him up shit creek, memory-wise :p |
| 15:00.02 | vhaarr | yeah it's total bullshit |
| 15:00.11 | vhaarr | Ace2 is fine, stop your whining. |
| 15:00.33 | Pkekyo| | Zariel: still running windows 3.5 too? :p |
| 15:00.46 | Recluse | 3.11! |
| 15:01.02 | Pkekyo| | bah, gotta do some grocery shopping...laters :) |
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| 15:06.03 | Dezzimal | so my blizzard download of the 2.4 ptr finished |
| 15:06.13 | Dezzimal | and I have not a fucking clue where the patch executeable is hiding now |
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| 15:06.27 | nevcairiel | probably in your firefox folder like mine :P |
| 15:06.56 | Dezzimal | why |
| 15:06.58 | Dezzimal | why is it there |
| 15:07.39 | Dezzimal | I forgot to look in my ffox3.0 folder, only looked in the old 2.0 one |
| 15:07.50 | nevcairiel | you executed the downloader directly from the firefox download window after it finished, then it uses the firefox dir as working dir |
| 15:07.54 | nevcairiel | probably a bug in 3.0 |
| 15:08.02 | Dezzimal | nah it does that in 2.0 too |
| 15:08.27 | Dezzimal | happened last patch and that was where I found it |
| 15:08.46 | Dezzimal | I thought it was fucking with me this patch but I forgot I run the 3.0 beta now |
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| 15:14.50 | ckknight | hey all |
| 15:14.58 | vhaarr | hiho |
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| 15:16.39 | CIA-10 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r60691 10kgPanelsConfig/ (kgPanelGuideFrame.lua kgPanelsConfig.lua): kgPanelsConfig: updates to artwork browser |
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| 15:23.05 | Zariel | How do you get a Database from acedb? I have it registered in another file and want to access it in another |
| 15:24.10 | Zariel | just use, :New(tbl) again fromt he file? |
| 15:24.19 | Elsia | same addon? |
| 15:24.51 | Elsia | say you have MyAddon.db, you can just use that table in another file of the same addon, no other need |
| 15:25.05 | CIA-10 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r60692 10RaidCast/RaidCast.lua: RaidCast: fixed channeling, added hacks to hide bars if they stick around too long |
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| 15:26.11 | Pkekyo| | hai2upeoples |
| 15:26.43 | Elsia | heya pke |
| 15:27.13 | Pkekyo| | geif mney plx |
| 15:27.52 | Pkekyo| | I'm so flat fucking broke, I have to consider selling my wow account :/ |
| 15:29.45 | nevcairiel | get a job :P |
| 15:29.59 | Pkekyo| | there's none available |
| 15:30.42 | chexsum | do door to door gutter cleaning |
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| 15:31.11 | Pkekyo| | it's not that time of year here :) |
| 15:31.29 | Pkekyo| | I hate gutter cleaning...I always fall >.< |
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| 15:31.51 | chexsum | then you sue the owner |
| 15:32.10 | chexsum | window cleaning |
| 15:32.23 | chexsum | they always need cleaned |
| 15:32.51 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 15:33.06 | Pkekyo| | going to aetat (manpower-ish) monday or tuesday |
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| 15:33.28 | Pkekyo| | see if they can get me something proper |
| 15:33.50 | chexsum | walk dogs for cash |
| 15:34.00 | chexsum | theres always jobs |
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| 15:34.17 | Pkekyo| | sure, shitty ones that pay jack shit :p |
| 15:34.22 | Pkekyo| | I need big money really fast |
| 15:34.44 | Wobin | sell your internal organs? |
| 15:34.44 | Stanzilla | prostitute yourself |
| 15:35.14 | chexsum | sell alcohol outside rich schools |
| 15:35.22 | nevcairiel | better to get a shit job then none at all |
| 15:35.25 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: won't work, they're so week I need all I can get my hands on |
| 15:35.25 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: no market for it |
| 15:35.25 | Pkekyo| | chexsum: no rich schools here |
| 15:36.34 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: dude, go there monday if you have no job now. why wait until tuesday? :p |
| 15:37.35 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: because my education is more important than a part time job to me atm...last hear... got a HUGE assignment due monday night |
| 15:37.38 | kenlyric | dumbass kids |
| 15:37.51 | kenlyric | you can't just be rich all at once. You gotta start somewhere |
| 15:38.03 | Pkekyo| | I don't want to be rich |
| 15:38.14 | kenlyric | you still gotta start somewhere |
| 15:38.16 | Pkekyo| | I want to be able to afford living :p |
| 15:38.49 | kenlyric | well, anything is greater than $0 per hour |
| 15:38.55 | evl | how is the aguf ace3 beta? |
| 15:39.39 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: sure, but for 50c an hour, I'll rather focus on my education.... |
| 15:39.39 | JoshBorke | works fine for me |
| 15:39.48 | kenlyric | do both? |
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| 15:40.10 | Pkekyo| | not for 50c an hour I won't |
| 15:40.11 | Gnarfoz | are there UI functions for getting all titles a character has available and to switch between them? |
| 15:40.24 | kenlyric | if it's either "work shit job and go to school" or "don't eat and go to school", I choose the former! |
| 15:40.29 | hypetech | Gnarfoz: character frame + click :p |
| 15:40.32 | haste | Gnarfoz: tkae a look at the paperdoll frame |
| 15:40.36 | haste | code tat is |
| 15:40.42 | Gnarfoz | haste: win, hypetech: fail |
| 15:40.42 | Gnarfoz | thx |
| 15:40.43 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 15:41.06 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: in my case; "work shit job for shit pay and sleep through school" or "don't eat and get through school with proper grades" |
| 15:41.16 | kenlyric | stop being a lazy fucker |
| 15:41.35 | hypetech | Pkekyo|: rentacoder.com |
| 15:42.12 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: I'm practicing having this conversation with my kid in about 19 years |
| 15:42.25 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: bwahah |
| 15:42.37 | Pkekyo| | if your kid ends up like me, let me offer my condolances in advance :p |
| 15:42.45 | Pkekyo| | hypetech: all I do is html :< |
| 15:42.48 | Pkekyo| | and css |
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| 15:43.55 | kenlyric | if you can't work 40 hours a week and go to school full time and sleep at least seven hours a night, you're probably filling your free time with frivolities like "social life" or "fun" |
| 15:44.19 | JoshBorke | or eating healthy |
| 15:44.42 | Pkekyo| | I hardly sleep, and rarely eat :p |
| 15:44.45 | kenlyric | meh, eating health doesn't take a lot of time |
| 15:44.48 | kenlyric | even better |
| 15:45.15 | hypetech | I work full time, go to school full time, and raid way too much....I tend to skimp on sleep, but that's overrated anyway |
| 15:45.35 | Cryect | some people need more than 7 hours of sleep a night ;) |
| 15:45.39 | Pkekyo| | hypetech: how do you manage to both work and go to school full time? |
| 15:45.44 | hypetech | I work at night |
| 15:45.47 | Fisker- | Anyone did some research on the 2.4 code changes yet? |
| 15:45.50 | kenlyric | Cryect: splurge and go with 8! |
| 15:45.55 | kenlyric | if you need more than 8, see a doctor |
| 15:46.01 | kenlyric | your body is broke |
| 15:46.10 | Cryect | haha nope its not that strange to need more than 8 |
| 15:46.11 | hypetech | class from 8-4 ish, work from 4 ish to midnight |
| 15:46.30 | Cryect | during college I needed like 9+ hours of sleep |
| 15:46.35 | kenlyric | if you need more than 8, you might need a new bed |
| 15:46.36 | hypetech | I raid at work btw, didn't mention that |
| 15:46.47 | Pkekyo| | I need 10+hrs of sleep, rarely get more than 4-5 :p |
| 15:47.25 | Cryect | kenlyric, no its just I need a lot of sleep in general. I sleep well just need a lot |
| 15:47.33 | Pkekyo| | shouldn'tit be possible to teach my body that it doesn't need more than three hours or so? |
| 15:47.50 | Cryect | in theory it is if your body doesn't need to repair itself etc |
| 15:47.51 | hypetech | I do just fine with 4-5 hours these days, if I sleep more than 6 hours I feel like shit |
| 15:48.21 | Cryect | Under 8 hours though currently and I'm yawning all day and under 6 I'm half asleep :-p |
| 15:48.42 | kenlyric | seriously, if your body thinks it needs 10 hours of sleep *every night* then there's something wrong somewhere. |
| 15:48.49 | kenlyric | or you're 14 |
| 15:49.26 | Cryect | shrug I've asked doctor about it they say its normal but kenlyric knows better ;) |
| 15:49.53 | Pkekyo| | Cryect: repair itself? |
| 15:49.55 | kenlyric | kenlyric MD |
| 15:50.15 | Pkekyo| | if I sleep for more than 20 minutes and less than 9hrs I'm a fucking wreck |
| 15:50.20 | hypetech | the doctor is referring to "normal" as "lazy teenager normal" |
| 15:51.13 | JoshBorke | well, when you're not a teenager |
| 15:51.16 | JoshBorke | does that maek it normal? |
| 15:51.42 | Cryect | Your still developing in college so its not exactly strange you still need more sleep then |
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| 15:52.23 | Pkekyo| | hm...going to college sounds like fun...geif sitcom-style college:P |
| 15:52.38 | JoshBorke | and at what point do you stop developing? |
| 15:52.48 | Pkekyo| | about 37 |
| 15:52.49 | kenlyric | 25 is when you start dying |
| 15:52.51 | Cryect | early 20's |
| 15:53.00 | Wobin | well you stop growing up... and start growing out =P |
| 15:53.06 | Cryect | haha |
| 15:53.10 | kenlyric | ~25 your body produces fewer cells than die off. |
| 15:53.34 | JoshBorke | so at 25 needing 10 hours is no longer normal? |
| 15:53.59 | Cryect | you shouldn't really need 10 hours at that age unless your sick |
| 15:54.13 | JoshBorke | i'm just curious is all |
| 15:54.45 | kenlyric | hallucinations build character, I always say |
| 15:55.21 | Pkekyo| | Cryect: sick as in ill, or as in sick motherfucker? :p |
| 15:55.21 | Cryect | you go for sleep deprivation eh? |
| 15:55.22 | kenlyric | well, for comedy yes. |
| 15:55.27 | Gnarfoz | haste: actually, there doesn't seem to be anything about the title in there? oO |
| 15:55.29 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 15:55.30 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 15:55.36 | kenlyric | but honestly, if you ever once get a decent night's sleep in college, you're probably doing something wrong. |
| 15:55.49 | kenlyric | you're either not doing enough homework, enough work, or enough sex |
| 15:55.53 | Pkekyo| | haha |
| 15:55.58 | JoshBorke | heh, i always slept decently in college |
| 15:56.07 | Cryect | Well college had very little homework for most my classes |
| 15:56.10 | JoshBorke | so i must have done something wrong the entire time |
| 15:56.12 | Pkekyo| | stop making college sound so tempting :p |
| 15:56.14 | Cryect | college was mainly exams |
| 15:56.22 | Cryect | which means cram the night before and ace it |
| 15:56.22 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: wait, you aren't in college? |
| 15:56.39 | Pkekyo| | nope, won't ever be |
| 15:56.48 | kenlyric | Cryect: you'll forget it in your sleep |
| 15:56.52 | kenlyric | cram the day of |
| 15:57.47 | Cryect | kenlyric: wth are you talking about? work on meditation and keeping your thoughts straight in your sleep and you won't (sleep was always useful for working on some of my harder HW problems when we did have them) |
| 15:58.04 | kenlyric | hippy |
| 15:58.05 | Cryect | but shrug I'm a lucid sleeper and dream tons |
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| 15:58.42 | Cryect | its annoying in the sense that I know if I'm dreaming I shouldn't need more sleep but my body wants a few hours of dreaming always |
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| 16:00.23 | Pkekyo| | meh, geif college and lucid dreaming lol :p |
| 16:01.21 | Cryect | I would say lucid dreaming isn't hard to pick up but then again I'm not sure if thats true I've just have had them since as far as back I can think |
| 16:01.30 | Wobin | I'd like lucid dreaming |
| 16:01.53 | Cryect | Its just being able to go hey I'm dreaming and then taking control of your imagination which prolly is easier said than done |
| 16:01.54 | Pkekyo| | Cryect: I've tried some...rather hard, guess it's easier when you first get the hang of it :p |
| 16:02.23 | Wobin | speaking of which |
| 16:02.25 | Wobin | it's 3am |
| 16:02.27 | Cryect | yeah, once you've done it you know how to pick up on when you are dreaming |
| 16:02.31 | Wobin | (and I must be lonely) |
| 16:02.33 | Cryect | pfft its 11am! |
| 16:02.41 | Wobin | so sleep time for me |
| 16:02.45 | Cryect | night |
| 16:02.49 | Wobin | perchance to dream |
| 16:03.00 | Pkekyo| | Cryect: I know how to...realitychecks ftw, only...they never are flawed :p |
| 16:03.56 | Wobin | too late Fisker |
| 16:04.09 | Fisker- | noes |
| 16:04.17 | kenlyric | I used to be a lucid dreamer but then I got bored. My imagination is always more fun when I'm not in control of it |
| 16:04.27 | Cryect | meditation I know is supposed to help (not sure if it does exactly since I had lucid dreams before ever meditating) but I do know it helps keeps my thought straight while sleeping at least so I'm less distracted |
| 16:04.42 | Cryect | kenlyric: yeah I've known a few people who say that |
| 16:04.55 | Cryect | they prefer being an observer |
| 16:05.02 | kenlyric | I actually had to learn how to stop wetting the bed. I'd dream about peeing in my sleep |
| 16:05.16 | kenlyric | so I had to learn to wake myself up if I went near a bathroom in my sleep :) |
| 16:05.23 | Pkekyo| | hmm...could it work studying for a test in a dream if you're a lucid dreamer? :p |
| 16:05.38 | Cryect | well if you can study for a test in your sleep why do you need to study? |
| 16:05.50 | Cryect | this implies the knowledge is already in your brain :-p |
| 16:06.02 | Pkekyo| | oh, right |
| 16:06.03 | kenlyric | well, that's really what all studying should be |
| 16:06.05 | Cryect | You can contemplate knowledge you don't quite understand |
| 16:06.10 | kenlyric | taking knowledge in your brain and making it make sense |
| 16:06.14 | Pkekyo| | could certainly help previnting iron curtains etc though |
| 16:06.35 | kenlyric | cramming is the opposite, putting stuff in your brain but not making sense of it. |
| 16:06.51 | Pkekyo| | I'm with kenlyric on this one |
| 16:07.11 | kenlyric | this is why essay tests are awesome. It's much harder to cram for them. |
| 16:07.19 | kenlyric | well, awesome for educators. students hate them :) |
| 16:07.26 | Cryect | I hate essay tests I rather do oral exams |
| 16:07.37 | Cryect | but I just hate writing |
| 16:07.44 | Pkekyo| | suck your way to a grade, eh? |
| 16:07.45 | kenlyric | well, two forms of the same thing. |
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| 16:08.46 | kenlyric | I would completely suck at an oral exam |
| 16:08.59 | kenlyric | badum bump |
| 16:09.19 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
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| 16:17.11 | Parnic | dogtag is having a fit with my addon :P |
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| 16:33.30 | Pkekyo| | can anyone briefly tell me what the inquisition is? can't be arsed to read a mile long wiki about it if it's not interesting |
| 16:33.47 | dylanm | It's pretty interesting. |
| 16:34.00 | dylanm | And COMPLETELY unexpected. |
| 16:34.08 | vhaarr | Indeed it is very interesting. |
| 16:34.31 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r60694 10Mapster/ (Mapster.toc libs.xml): Mapster: add X-Embeds until a decision is reached how to embed/disembed Ace3 |
| 16:34.31 | Pkekyo| | well, what was it? |
| 16:34.48 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: It was a group that sought to maintain and uphold catholic rules, controlled by the Spanish king. |
| 16:34.53 | Pkekyo| | I've seen the monty python stuff, got no further knowledge of the term |
| 16:34.54 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 16:35.41 | Elsia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition |
| 16:36.29 | Pkekyo| | for some reason, I thought it had something to do with burning 'witches' |
| 16:36.35 | Elsia | it did |
| 16:36.43 | vhaarr | indeed it did :P |
| 16:36.46 | Elsia | or persecuting people who were considered heretic |
| 16:37.04 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: If you're a heretic, or a witch, you're not catholic. |
| 16:37.12 | vhaarr | and hence, expendable |
| 16:37.21 | Elsia | famously galileo galilei had trouble with the inquisition and had to renounce modern gravity over it |
| 16:38.02 | Elsia | torture was seen as good, either you took the pain as good cristian or it would kill the devil in you |
| 16:38.29 | Elsia | good holywood take on the insquisition on The Name of the Rose |
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| 16:38.39 | vhaarr | reminds me of the time we went to a torture museum in Italy because we thought it would be "cool" |
| 16:38.41 | vhaarr | it wasn't |
| 16:39.20 | Pkekyo| | ok, just looking for a simular term to a norwegian one, related to the witch burning etc, the word 'inquisition' popped into my mind, not quite sure why |
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| 16:41.45 | Pkekyo| | meh, 10 fucking warriors is far too much for a guild that hasn't even cleared kara yet |
| 16:42.22 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r60695 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: |
| 16:42.22 | CIA-10 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: |
| 16:42.22 | CIA-10 | - remove AceConsole upvalue since its nowhere used, and not required to have for ACD to run |
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| 16:46.13 | Recluse | eh, did realms go down? lol |
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| 16:48.15 | Elsia | my EU realm is up |
| 16:50.32 | Elsia | waiting for the ptr to finally come up though :P |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r60697 10Ace3/ (10 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-10 | Ace3 - (merge) |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-10 | - CallbackHandler-1.0: tweaks |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-10 | - AceAddon-3.0: fixed a bug with recursive addon loading |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-10 | - AceGUI: Update TabGroup's tablist format, tabs are selected by value not index |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-10 | - AceGUI: Add MultiLineEditBox widget (originally by bam) |
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| 16:52.08 | Fisker- | fu Elsia :I |
| 16:53.51 | kergoth | argh.. i had a hard link between my wow addons and ptr addons, from 2.3, since those changes were minor... just fired up the 2.4 ptr installer.. it wiped the ptr addons dir.. :( |
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| 16:56.44 | [SW]Dodge | :/ |
| 16:57.50 | CIA-10 | 03rabbit * r60698 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Make players with an unknown class gray again. |
| 16:58.05 | Grum | kergoth: how is that a problem? |
| 16:58.30 | Grum | hardlink makes a copy if you break it :) (or basicly leaves the inode with 1 'link' less) |
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| 16:59.28 | kergoth | Grum: it didnt reak the link. |
| 16:59.35 | kergoth | it removed the contents of hte directoryw ithout checking if it was a link |
| 16:59.36 | kergoth | :( |
| 16:59.48 | Recluse | ah, found a blue saying "realms will be back up by 10am pst" |
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| 17:09.29 | Grum | kergoth: auch? :( |
| 17:09.57 | kergoth | i wouldnt mind, except i had like 40-50 that were svn checkouts or git clones, so those have to be recovered manually. wau/wuu can recover the rest |
| 17:09.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:10.05 | kergoth | ah well.. |
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| 17:11.05 | sb | wtb eu ptr |
| 17:11.32 | FtH|Daemona | whats the news on the ptrs? |
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| 17:11.39 | FtH|Daemona | just crossread us realms were up already? |
| 17:13.46 | dylanm | Whoa lots of stuff just went down. |
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| 17:17.53 | mjc | any pally players about? |
| 17:18.24 | mjc | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tGx0zT for a lvl37 protadin? or should I stay ret |
| 17:18.51 | dylanm | Dear God man get precision. |
| 17:19.42 | dylanm | I specced into 5/5 Reckoning when I could and went back down ret. |
| 17:20.42 | dylanm | The purely defensive talents aren't going to help you level all that much faster. But I love love love reckoning. I'm not sure how necessary it is after 2.3 but it's a nice mix I think. |
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| 17:21.04 | Mezir|SemiAFK | aloha |
| 17:21.06 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :> |
| 17:21.43 | mjc | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVZcZEf0kko is my ret spec, meh. |
| 17:22.07 | mjc | I put the three in redoubt when I started having to tank yesterday |
| 17:22.27 | nevcairiel | you need to tank at l37? |
| 17:22.29 | nevcairiel | lolwut! |
| 17:22.46 | Zariel | wtf, i log out, disable all my addons, log in and there enabled again |
| 17:22.48 | mjc | my boss is a healer, so finding groups is easy |
| 17:23.58 | Mezir|SemiAFK | is there an ace mobmap alternative? o.o |
| 17:24.22 | mjc | dylanm: not as concerned with levelling speed since I'm in a party typically |
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| 17:26.40 | sdouble | mjc, I went protection at 35 and stayed until 63 |
| 17:26.44 | sdouble | I loved it |
| 17:26.47 | sdouble | it was so easy |
| 17:27.05 | sdouble | so you would end up pulling 6 or 7 things to kill to make it more interesting |
| 17:27.20 | mjc | yeah |
| 17:27.27 | sdouble | I basically could have solod SM arm except Herod |
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| 17:27.39 | mjc | how about this http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVhth0hzxb |
| 17:28.14 | dylanm | I think shield spec is pretty important. |
| 17:28.17 | dylanm | If your focus is tanking. |
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| 17:28.54 | nevcairiel | shield spec isnt really important in low-lvl tanking |
| 17:29.13 | dylanm | Wellllll. |
| 17:29.15 | nevcairiel | if you absorb 10 or 12 now |
| 17:29.23 | dylanm | I like it more than the fourth-column talents. |
| 17:29.26 | nevcairiel | you dont have very high shield block ratings anyway |
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| 17:29.36 | sdouble | this is what I did http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVhtI00zxb |
| 17:29.36 | nevcairiel | i didnt compare that now |
| 17:29.45 | mjc | yeah that's what I was thinking nev, since I have more trouble generating aggro atm and I can put the next 3 points in shield spec once I get a better shield |
| 17:30.11 | nevcairiel | plus without holy shield, shield spec doesnt really benefit you that much |
| 17:30.18 | dylanm | He's getting there :p |
| 17:30.29 | nevcairiel | just saying :D |
| 17:31.02 | dylanm | Love all the servers going kaput. |
| 17:32.21 | sdouble | you'd be surprised how many times redoubt procs |
| 17:32.22 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: thats "kicks", please |
| 17:33.01 | Fisker- | nooo u |
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| 17:35.51 | mjc | I think I'm giong to go with sdouble's spec there |
| 17:35.57 | mjc | see how that goes since it only costs me 1g |
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| 17:41.42 | sdouble | mjc, if you hold on a minute, I'm putting together some screenshots of violation from my SM Arm run |
| 17:41.55 | sdouble | I took screenshots since I was so amazed |
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| 17:47.32 | mjc | I should probably pick up a spell damage weapon or something |
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| 17:50.14 | ckknight_ | anyone have the framexml diff of 2.3.3 vs. 0.4.0? |
| 17:51.21 | nevcairiel | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.3.3.7799-0.4.0.7897.diff |
| 17:53.03 | sdouble | mjc, here is it. I'm no artise. =P http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2686/smarmprimadintj5.png |
| 17:53.25 | sdouble | I was 38, Nelgund was 37, the rest were 35 and above |
| 17:53.41 | mjc | haha |
| 17:55.02 | sdouble | and all of my healing was through seal of light |
| 17:55.08 | sdouble | =] |
| 17:56.17 | sdouble | I had BoS and an iron shield spike as well |
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| 18:03.15 | CIA-10 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r60699 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua layouts/ABF.lua): ag_UnitFrames: a bit more trimming |
| 18:05.33 | CIA-10 | 03damjau * r60700 10Whats/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:05.33 | CIA-10 | Whats : 0.3 |
| 18:05.33 | CIA-10 | - add static drop data |
| 18:05.33 | CIA-10 | - fix Stratholme drop item info |
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| 18:18.16 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 18:18.47 | [SW]Dodge | gmorning .) |
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| 18:36.45 | Pkekyo| | John McCain: "If you elect Obama or Clinton, the terrorists win!" |
| 18:36.59 | Ellipsis | well duh |
| 18:37.00 | Pkekyo| | ftwlols |
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| 18:37.23 | Knaledge | So one thing I've always wondered... |
| 18:37.32 | Pkekyo| | "buy a new SUV, or the terrorists win!" |
| 18:37.32 | Pkekyo| | "surrender your liberties, or the terrorists win!" |
| 18:37.32 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 18:37.42 | Knaledge | Violation reports my DPS as roughly... 200~ DPS higher than WWS |
| 18:37.54 | Pkekyo| | am I the only one getting bored with this '...or the terrorists win'-stuff? |
| 18:38.10 | Knaledge | but it's consistently 200~ DPS difference. If Violation says I was pushing out 980~ DPS, WWS states I was doing 780~ DPS |
| 18:38.31 | Knaledge | Is there any way to stop that ? Or... I mean what's considered the most accurate meter in the game atm? |
| 18:38.52 | Knaledge | I don't want to use it for e-peen contests.. I use it to track how I'm doing in a raid and if I'm slacking. |
| 18:39.04 | sb | well it doesnt matter then |
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| 18:39.30 | Knaledge | It does when I'm trying to see how I'm doing comparatively night by night |
| 18:39.45 | sb | well no, use wws values there? |
| 18:39.49 | sb | only wws or only violation |
| 18:39.52 | Knaledge | WWS is fine but I was hoping to get that same trackability in game |
| 18:40.03 | Knaledge | ugh |
| 18:40.09 | sb | you do - but i think you cant compare dps |
| 18:40.24 | sb | different calculations of 'in combat' time |
| 18:40.30 | Knaledge | I'm just wondering why WWS reports differently over Violation |
| 18:40.32 | Fisker- | :O |
| 18:40.46 | [dRaCo] | Knaledge: tried recount yet? |
| 18:40.54 | Knaledge | I mean - what's most accurate? Violation, Recount, WWS, etc.? |
| 18:40.57 | sb | recount is lower than wws |
| 18:41.02 | Knaledge | I tried Recount but it's much too much |
| 18:41.02 | Fisker- | looks like sunwell plateau and magister's terrace aren't "instances" |
| 18:41.09 | sb | Fisker-: huh? |
| 18:41.22 | Knaledge | Recount doesn't have a simple "DPS" and "Damage" tracker.. |
| 18:41.36 | Knaledge | or at least it didn't when I tried it about 4 months ago |
| 18:41.41 | Fisker- | Well it's just speculation |
| 18:41.46 | [dRaCo] | Knaledge: recount has both |
| 18:41.56 | [dRaCo] | lots of other features, though |
| 18:42.00 | Knaledge | iirc though... |
| 18:42.10 | sb | i wonder if shattrath flasks will be usable in sunwell |
| 18:42.13 | Knaledge | there wasn't any simple way to just .. filter classes or set up a simple meter |
| 18:42.16 | Fisker- | but a lot of the areas are surrounded by these blocks of textures that looks like this: http://i29.tinypic.com/oa6ttd.png |
| 18:42.21 | Fisker- | And |
| 18:42.35 | [dRaCo] | Knaledge: you can disable logging for everything but damage |
| 18:42.44 | Fisker- | MapViewer can't see any instances added in the 2.4.0 mpq's |
| 18:42.46 | [dRaCo] | but no class filtering, no |
| 18:42.48 | ckknight | anyone know when the PTR might come up? |
| 18:42.54 | Fisker- | next week apparently |
| 18:42.56 | Knaledge | ckknight next week |
| 18:43.04 | ckknight | blast |
| 18:43.07 | ckknight | why :-( |
| 18:43.09 | Knaledge | you can get a priv server up atm thog |
| 18:43.09 | ckknight | wanna test |
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| 18:43.30 | Fisker- | OMG MURLOCS |
| 18:43.32 | ckknight | not sure I wanna deal with that |
| 18:43.37 | Knaledge | This is OT but I'm curious |
| 18:43.43 | Fisker- | i hope they'll be level 5 just for the heck of it |
| 18:43.53 | Knaledge | WAR uses LUA and XML, ased off of 5.x |
| 18:43.53 | krka | Knaledge: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 18:44.07 | Knaledge | I understand that... |
| 18:44.08 | Fisker- | ownt Knaledge it's not LUA |
| 18:44.09 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 18:44.13 | Fisker- | damnit Kreiger_ |
| 18:44.13 | Knaledge | Oh ok |
| 18:44.14 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 18:44.22 | Knaledge | Well nevermind then. |
| 18:44.32 | Ellipsis | ~fail Fisker- |
| 18:44.33 | purl | Fisker-: Fail. |
| 18:44.38 | Knaledge | I was going to offer WAR keys to some of you |
| 18:45.08 | Knaledge | but it's funny how having your own head up your ass kind of stops me from doing that. |
| 18:45.10 | sb | WAR? |
| 18:45.14 | [SW]Dodge | Knaledge: gief plx :D:D |
| 18:45.25 | Fisker- | no u Ellipsis |
| 18:45.36 | [SW]Dodge | WAR = Warhammer online i think :) |
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| 18:45.42 | Ellipsis | k |
| 18:46.02 | Knaledge | I'll get in touch with several of you privately about it since I definitely can't stand speaking in here sometimes. |
| 18:46.05 | Knaledge | L U A |
| 18:46.13 | Knaledge | ooooohhh nnoooooooooo |
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| 18:47.26 | Aeyan | ... |
| 18:47.54 | Pkekyo| | http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/2/9/ghilliesuitur128470559432500000.jpg ^^ |
| 18:50.08 | CIA-10 | 03borlox * r60702 10CombatDnd/CombatDnd.toc: |
| 18:50.08 | CIA-10 | CombatDnd: |
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| 18:50.56 | CIA-10 | 03borlox * r60703 10CCopy/CCopy.toc: |
| 18:50.56 | CIA-10 | CCopy: |
| 18:50.56 | CIA-10 | - removed X-Embeds and OptionalDeps to Ace3 |
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| 19:00.36 | Elkano | hmm... what was the script code to get the name of the frame under the mouse cursor? |
| 19:01.03 | Ellipsis | /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 19:03.07 | Elkano | thanks... |
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| 19:03.42 | Bruners | !rating 1536 |
| 19:03.44 | Xinhuan | 1536 rating gives 384(5s), 338(3s) and 292(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 19:03.49 | Elkano | though unfortunatly it returns Worldframe for the damn extra raid target icon I've on my screen :/ |
| 19:04.43 | Ellipsis | well raid target icons generally don't have mouse enabled |
| 19:04.51 | Pkekyo| | does the number 3.14159 mean anything to anyone? |
| 19:05.22 | [SW]Dodge | pi? |
| 19:05.29 | Pkekyo| | ohlols |
| 19:05.41 | Pkekyo| | ever since I learned what phi was, I never could get pi right :p |
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| 19:06.09 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60704 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Kalithresh.lua: LittleWigs: koKR Update |
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| 19:06.30 | [SW]Dodge | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.55 | [SW]Dodge | lua> print(math.pi) |
| 19:06.55 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: 3.1415926535898 |
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| 19:06.56 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
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| 19:08.00 | [SW]Dodge | omg 3.14159 = 23 ! :D |
| 19:08.06 | Pkekyo| | lua> print math.phi |
| 19:08.06 | lua_bot | Pkekyo|: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "print math.phi"]:1: '=' expected near 'math' |
| 19:08.25 | Pkekyo| | lua> print (math.phi) |
| 19:08.25 | lua_bot | Pkekyo|: nil |
| 19:08.33 | [SW]Dodge | pi not phi |
| 19:08.34 | Pkekyo| | ok, what am I doing to fail here? :p |
| 19:08.42 | Pkekyo| | pi != phi |
| 19:08.50 | Grum | such nub |
| 19:09.08 | [SW]Dodge | O_o |
| 19:09.10 | Pkekyo| | phi is x.618 something |
| 19:09.22 | [SW]Dodge | never heard about phi lol |
| 19:09.36 | Pkekyo| | maybe 'phi' isn't used about it in english |
| 19:09.43 | Pkekyo| | symbol for it looks somewhat like Ø |
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| 19:10.41 | Pkekyo| | been getting it mashed through my skull for the last 3-4 weeks or so |
| 19:13.04 | [SW]Dodge | damn... dunno how i should implenet item cooldowns into cooldown buttons without changing the whole concept how it work atm :X |
| 19:13.58 | [SW]Dodge | well i dont have any idea at all how to implement it easily |
| 19:14.07 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: it has to do with 'the golden [something I can't translate properly]' - about |
| 19:14.15 | Pkekyo| | about stuff that's aesthetically pleasing to look at etc |
| 19:14.32 | maia | a : b = (a+b) : a < that's what phi is |
| 19:14.41 | Pkekyo| | sure, something like that |
| 19:15.03 | maia | how is this related to wowace? |
| 19:15.22 | Pkekyo| | not at all |
| 19:15.37 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: what do you mean? :X dont understand what you are trying to tell me :D |
| 19:15.51 | Pkekyo| | maiaa : b = (a+b) : a < that's what phi is |
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| 19:16.08 | Pkekyo| | that's what I'm talking about |
| 19:16.23 | Pkekyo| | dunno how to explain it, it's name is something I can't translate properly to english |
| 19:16.38 | [SW]Dodge | ah... |
| 19:17.07 | Industrial | hawt unitframes are hawt http://images.gammatester.com/pics/440e95ff1d53cdee7051ae18858b5b95.jpg |
| 19:17.29 | Pkekyo| | if memory serves, the result from a : b = (a+b) : a should always be 6.618, or something like that |
| 19:17.39 | [SW]Dodge | i thought it was related to my "problem" :D |
| 19:17.44 | Antiarc|Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.52 | [SW]Dodge | waaaaaaaaaaa need inspiration .__. |
| 19:19.55 | Industrial | [SW]Dodge: i just posted a shot |
| 19:20.20 | [SW]Dodge | did you? |
| 19:20.41 | Industrial | yes, yes I did. |
| 19:20.43 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: what problem? :p |
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| 19:21.23 | [SW]Dodge | i dont know how i can implement itemcooldowns without the need to totaly change my spell cooldown code :E |
| 19:21.46 | [SW]Dodge | but i think there is no way :E |
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| 19:22.03 | Knaledge | So when is Fubar4 and Pitbull2 coming out??!? |
| 19:22.11 | Knaledge | And Ace3 |
| 19:22.16 | Knaledge | and BankItems2 |
| 19:22.21 | Knaledge | SEQUELS |
| 19:22.24 | Pkekyo| | oh, nah...was just an answer to your answer about pi :p |
| 19:22.26 | mort | same time with duke nukem 4ever |
| 19:22.39 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: heh^^ |
| 19:22.56 | [SW]Dodge | s/4ever/comes never/ |
| 19:22.57 | [SW]Dodge | :P |
| 19:23.03 | Pkekyo| | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-owls-twisted-head.jpg ohlols |
| 19:23.39 | ckknight___ | Knaledge: why would FuBar4 and PitBull2 come out? |
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| 19:23.59 | Knaledge | no idea- just itching for newness |
| 19:24.19 | Knaledge | I want some new options, new layouts, new addons! |
| 19:24.23 | Knaledge | I Dunno... /bored |
| 19:25.45 | Ellipsis | but pitbull has been getting a lot of new options |
| 19:25.50 | Ellipsis | just not a new version number |
| 19:26.32 | Knaledge | one thing I wish there was someting for.. |
| 19:26.52 | Knaledge | I hide the weapon buffs in pitbull but sometimes I get swapped around in raids, in and out of a WF group |
| 19:27.10 | Knaledge | so I have to show the weapon buffs to cancel MH poison |
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| 19:27.12 | Knaledge | w |
| 19:27.25 | Knaledge | would be cool if there was like a... conditional for weapon buffs... |
| 19:27.33 | Knaledge | "Show if WF present" or something |
| 19:27.40 | Knaledge | or "Show if about to expire" |
| 19:27.52 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60705 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:27.52 | CIA-10 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0: |
| 19:27.52 | CIA-10 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc: |
| 19:27.52 | CIA-10 | - UTF-8 |
| 19:27.52 | CIA-10 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 19:27.54 | CIA-10 | - reverted to r60440 |
| 19:27.56 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.43 | Hjalte | Is it possible for an addon to check if I, as a warlock, have a pet out? |
| 19:29.17 | Ellipsis | UnitExists("pet") |
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| 19:30.29 | Ellipsis | that will include enslaved demons and the pets you get during MC-type quests |
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| 19:31.17 | ckknight_ | hrm, perhaps I should split up Babble-X-3.0 into separate files, one for each locale |
| 19:31.41 | Ellipsis | /agree |
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| 19:40.16 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2: |
| 19:40.16 | CIA-10 | - More frFR updates thanks to Sublima |
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| 19:41.55 | CIA-10 | GridDynamicZoneSwitch : |
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| 19:44.04 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 19:44.04 | CIA-10 | - update zhTW |
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| 19:45.33 | Pkekyo| | any addons that provide highlighting in chat? |
| 19:46.25 | Pkekyo| | =D |
| 19:47.26 | Tuller | so should i be looking at the wiki or the docs in the ace3 folder for documentation? :) |
| 19:48.25 | Ellipsis | I believe they normally recommend looking directly at the source |
| 19:48.40 | Ellipsis | although I hear that can cause eye damage, so be careful |
| 19:48.51 | [Ammo] | Tuller: check both |
| 19:48.52 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 19:49.00 | [Ammo] | we need to sort out all the docs still |
| 19:49.11 | [Ammo] | and don't hesitate to ask |
| 19:49.30 | Matrix110| | Pkekyo| Prat does |
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| 19:51.16 | Tuller | [Ammo]: well, for instance, I want bongos to do stuff when a new profile is created/etc |
| 19:51.57 | [Ammo] | you will have to register for the db callbacks |
| 19:52.11 | [Ammo] | there is a test for the callbacks in the tests folder |
| 19:52.16 | [Ammo] | (db callbacks that is) |
| 19:52.20 | [Ammo] | that will give yuo some handson info |
| 19:52.36 | [Ammo] | and if anything is unclear, nevcairiel and cladhaire are your friends regarding the DB :) |
| 19:52.44 | cladhaire | lies |
| 19:52.48 | nevcairiel | mm? |
| 19:52.49 | [Ammo] | truth |
| 19:52.54 | Tuller | yeah I should have just looked at the test folder :P |
| 19:53.05 | nevcairiel | just call db:RegisterCallback("OnProfileCreated", function() do stuff end) |
| 19:53.35 | nevcairiel | i documented the callbacks on teh wiki i think |
| 19:54.06 | nevcairiel | hm i didnt |
| 19:54.07 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 19:54.07 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:54.28 | Tuller | :P |
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| 19:55.12 | nevcairiel | i thought i wrote them down somewhere |
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| 19:56.30 | nevcairiel | OnProfileChanged, OnNewProfile |
| 19:56.31 | Tuller | the tests? :) |
| 19:56.31 | cladhaire | you did |
| 19:56.32 | cladhaire | in the source |
| 19:56.34 | nevcairiel | depends what you need to do |
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| 19:59.34 | Tuller | dance |
| 19:59.54 | cladhaire | i don't wanna |
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| 20:00.43 | piggles | i'm gay |
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| 20:05.01 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Yahoo Inc's (YHOO.O) board believes Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) unsolicited bid of $44.6 billion to acquire Yahoo "massively undervalues" the company and directors are set to reject the offer, the Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday, citing an unnamed source. |
| 20:05.04 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | Hahah, hot damn |
| 20:05.08 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | It's going to be an interesting week. |
| 20:06.05 | [SW]Dodge | 44.6 billion = massively undervalues? |
| 20:06.06 | [SW]Dodge | wtf |
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| 20:22.33 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 20:22.33 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.33 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.33 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:29.45 | CIA-10 | 03arrowmaster * r60713 10/brances/ (7 files in 3 dirs): LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: inital commit, see http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11287.0 |
| 20:30.08 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: brances? :P |
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| 20:30.15 | Arrowmaster | fuck |
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| 20:32.56 | Elsia | does libGUIDregistry scan combat log or does it take feeds of GUIDs as they appeared in the combat log? |
| 20:33.48 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: HALP |
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| 20:35.42 | kergoth | svn mv http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/brances/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibGUIDRegistery-0.1; svn rm http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/brances |
| 20:35.43 | kergoth | or so |
| 20:36.10 | mjc | hey kergs. |
| 20:36.16 | kergoth | hey |
| 20:36.17 | kergoth | how goes it |
| 20:36.25 | mjc | it goes |
| 20:37.14 | Arrowmaster | i so hate moving stuff in svn |
| 20:37.27 | mort | !rating 1862 |
| 20:37.28 | Xinhuan | 1862 rating gives 856(5s), 753(3s) and 651(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 20:38.01 | ZOAS|Sleep | !rating 1599 |
| 20:38.02 | Xinhuan | 1599 rating gives 463(5s), 408(3s) and 352(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 20:38.52 | CIA-10 | 03arrowmaster * r60714 10/brances/: deleting |
| 20:42.21 | mikma | what's that lib, looks kinky. kergoth, tell me about it? |
| 20:42.28 | CIA-10 | 03arrowmaster * r60715 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:42.28 | CIA-10 | LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: |
| 20:42.28 | CIA-10 | - inital import |
| 20:42.28 | CIA-10 | - see http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11287.0 |
| 20:42.43 | Elsia | \o/ |
| 20:43.42 | kergoth | don't ask me, i didnt write it |
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| 20:47.30 | Arrowmaster | im sucking today |
| 20:47.41 | Elsia | ~hug arrowmaster |
| 20:47.41 | purl | ACTION hugs arrowmaster tightly until arrowmaster turns slightly blue |
| 20:47.42 | Arrowmaster | i even fucked up the link in the forum post i made before commiting |
| 20:47.43 | Saroz_ | as any other day my friend |
| 20:47.55 | Saroz_ | we don't judge! |
| 20:48.27 | Arrowmaster | have at hacking up my drycode |
| 20:48.51 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: you can always do an svn co -N (non-recursive) on the root of hte wowace repo, then you can just 'svn mv' within that, instead of using all urls on the cmdline |
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| 20:49.34 | Arrowmaster | -N? |
| 20:49.46 | Pheredhel | as he said, yes |
| 20:49.48 | Elsia | hmm what's the difference between GUARDIAN and PET in the object filters? |
| 20:49.49 | Arrowmaster | you mean so it doesnt take 10 hours to checkout? |
| 20:50.08 | kergoth | -N will make just an empty directory of the root |
| 20:50.25 | kergoth | then you could, say, svn up --ignore-externals branches to check out just that, or svn up --ignore-externals branches/foo |
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| 20:50.36 | kergoth | or rather, svn up -N branches; svn up --ignore-externals branches/foo |
| 20:51.28 | Hjalte | Weren't you able to check repair status in oRA2 once? |
| 20:51.40 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: from what i understand guardian's are stuff like barov pessents that you cant control |
| 20:52.14 | Elsia | ah hmm |
| 20:52.42 | Elsia | wonder if totems will show as guardians :P |
| 20:53.03 | Arrowmaster | they should |
| 20:53.04 | Vangual | earth and fire elementals do at least |
| 20:53.12 | Elsia | interesting |
| 20:53.24 | Arrowmaster | Vangual: you tested on ptr yet? |
| 20:53.44 | Vangual | no but they're already labelled as "playername's Guardian" |
| 20:53.48 | Vangual | on live |
| 20:54.05 | Arrowmaster | "totemname's Guardian" |
| 20:54.11 | Vangual | right |
| 20:54.15 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: pi---nevermind |
| 20:54.16 | Arrowmaster | and the totem is "playername's Guardian" |
| 20:54.25 | Shadowed | about that lib thing you posted when you have a sec |
| 20:54.31 | Arrowmaster | sure |
| 20:54.39 | Arrowmaster | just eating breakfast |
| 20:54.44 | Shadowed | we've been talking about it in dongle, but I don't exactly see how it's useful? |
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| 20:54.55 | Shadowed | You can't map GUID -> units that let you specifically target them |
| 20:55.03 | Shadowed | for things like raid icons |
| 20:55.04 | Arrowmaster | you see the forum post i made? |
| 20:55.07 | Shadowed | yea |
| 20:55.42 | Shadowed | In terms of maybe not requiring 50 people to figure out the GUID it could be useful I guess |
| 20:55.52 | Shadowed | but, the addons that'd really need that kind of info are better off specialized I'd think personally |
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| 20:56.10 | Vangual | so on same-named mobs you could more accurately track threat but you couldn't say which guid is actually which mob of the many? |
| 20:56.19 | Shadowed | bingo Vangual |
| 20:56.30 | Arrowmaster | you refering to the 2nd part where it maps GUID for 'target' 'focus' and such? |
| 20:56.54 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster, mostly the last part about being able to cycle through raid targets |
| 20:57.12 | Shadowed | Vangual: You can pretty much 100% accurately track dmg threat, but you can't tell which mob the threat list is for |
| 20:57.18 | Vangual | just lacking a way of querying unit for guid then :/ |
| 20:57.20 | Elsia | you can for whichever the object_target-type bits are set |
| 20:57.37 | Shadowed | They aren't going to give us a way to query unit for GUID |
| 20:57.52 | Vangual | could maybe do some really ugly and error-prone unitisunit comparison and hope people don't switch targets too often.. *shudder* |
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| 20:58.12 | Shadowed | You can do it with trackery and bits |
| 20:58.36 | Shadowed | as Elsia said. But you can't specifically map GUID -> Target |
| 20:58.43 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: so you think something that needs that info is better off doing it on its own? even if it means having to part events that its not really interested in normally? |
| 20:58.52 | Vangual | well better than nothing i suppose, at least as a general overaggro protection |
| 20:59.10 | Arrowmaster | s/part/parse/ |
| 20:59.25 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Well, the example Bel came up with is. Lets say you want to make a mod that tracks who breaks CC on raid marked mobs, knowing the GUID isn't going to help you much. Because you want to track that X CCed Y raid icon, and that Z broke Y. |
| 20:59.47 | Shadowed | In that case, having a library that tracks the icon GUID isn't that useful, because they already need other info already |
| 21:00.05 | Shadowed | Maybe someone else can come up with a better case, but thats what it seems like |
| 21:00.27 | Shadowed | er, Belandona* |
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| 21:00.53 | sb | hmm - but you could make some database with guid -> playername+realm lookup? |
| 21:01.12 | Arrowmaster | in that case yeah syncing addons is probably better since you get the guid when the mob is CCed |
| 21:01.12 | Elsia | I see the GUID having two uses at this point: pet disambiguation, and better threat-1.0 heuristics for crowds. |
| 21:01.41 | Shadowed | sb: Dunno, it depends if Blizzard passes the name as playername or playername-realm |
| 21:01.46 | Shadowed | but yes, you could |
| 21:02.07 | sb | hmm well you can query guid for $target, and you can query realm+name for $target |
| 21:02.08 | sb | so... :) |
| 21:02.18 | Shadowed | No you can't |
| 21:02.22 | sb | no? |
| 21:02.25 | Elsia | it's interesting though, the CC case GUID is needed if multiple mobs of the same name are CCed by the same abiltiy |
| 21:02.26 | Shadowed | You can't query GUIDs |
| 21:02.29 | sb | mh |
| 21:02.37 | Shadowed | you can only get a GUID from a combat log event |
| 21:02.56 | sb | ah okay - but you can extract playername from that event :p |
| 21:03.03 | sb | so guid <> name is possible |
| 21:03.04 | Vangual | manual rank1 spamming to find out which mob to not overaggro on :P |
| 21:03.09 | Arrowmaster | in the CC case you get an event when a mob is CCed for the debuff gained and get the GUID from that, same with the CC being broken |
| 21:03.10 | Elsia | basically GUIDs only every give really new information in cases there weren't unique before and not distinguishable by other means |
| 21:03.29 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 21:04.01 | Shadowed | sb, you should be able to extract it yes. But most of this is theorycrafting until we get the PTRs up. I don't think it was ever mentioned if the GUID stays the same for renames |
| 21:04.08 | Elsia | but basing data collection on GUID will be the most direct way of doing things, because you will have to do it for those cases |
| 21:04.24 | Shadowed | guilds storing GUID of everyone, ninjas transfering off and a global website of blacklisted GUIDs |
| 21:04.31 | Shadowed | (easily abusable of course) good times |
| 21:05.00 | Elsia | it's not clear yet that GUIDs are persistent across servers, only that they are unique within a server and don't collide in cross-realm BGs |
| 21:05.14 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 21:05.19 | Shadowed | that'll be easy to test thought |
| 21:05.20 | Arrowmaster | and ofcourse we wont know any of this until after 2.4 is live since you wont have a chance in hell of getting a realm transfer or character rename on ptr |
| 21:05.23 | Elsia | i.e. player tracking across transfers may not work, also they may just choose to asign a new GUID in those cases. |
| 21:05.55 | Vangual | we sure they aren't assigned a fresh but unique one if the player is created on login? |
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| 21:06.00 | Elsia | in fact I'm pretty sure they will obfuscate GUIDs through player renames... they have to |
| 21:06.02 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Sure you could, technically |
| 21:06.24 | Shadowed | Queue for a battleground as a group with someone, check your/their GUID, leave and recheck |
| 21:06.40 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 21:07.13 | Shadowed | You'd be able to see if they're persistent across servers that way, or shoul dbe able to |
| 21:07.28 | Elsia | my guess is that GUIDs will be stable withint a BG-group though, which does allow interesting within BG tracking |
| 21:07.28 | Arrowmaster | i ment server transfers |
| 21:08.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah as long as the player stays on the same server and keeps the same name, the GUID 'should' be the same and unique across the battlegroup |
| 21:08.26 | Elsia | but it could be that the GUID encodes realm, that implies realm changes means change of part of the GUID... if that's true soon you'll have an addon that can announce realm by GUID... |
| 21:08.49 | Arrowmaster | im hoping the class is encoded in player guids |
| 21:09.18 | Elsia | unlikely I think |
| 21:09.23 | Elsia | arena exploitable |
| 21:09.38 | Shadowed | Eh? |
| 21:09.38 | Shadowed | how |
| 21:09.52 | Elsia | hmm well if you can get a combatlog event early somehow |
| 21:10.04 | Elsia | you know classes before you see the opponents |
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| 21:10.25 | Shadowed | You can't get a combatlog event early |
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| 21:10.32 | Shadowed | by the time you can, you've already seen them basically |
| 21:10.50 | Elsia | buffing in arenas not transported by combatlog? |
| 21:11.10 | Shadowed | nope |
| 21:11.11 | thul | try http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/040/7/8/Ice_by_cainadamsson.png |
| 21:11.12 | Shadowed | well yes |
| 21:11.22 | Shadowed | but not before the match starts |
| 21:11.31 | Elsia | alright, well lets see then |
| 21:12.03 | Shadowed | Theres a good reason the arena doors are 100 yards apart |
| 21:12.11 | Elsia | then again it can well be that GUID is account database, which all zone-wide realms share, in which case the GUID may contain no info |
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| 21:14.50 | Pkekyo| | nice pic thul |
| 21:15.18 | thul | thanks. |
| 21:15.25 | Arrowmaster | npc GUIDs are suppost to have info on the npc encoded into it, so i doubt the player guid is completely a database key |
| 21:15.41 | Elsia | really, slouken said that? |
| 21:15.47 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:15.51 | Elsia | got link? |
| 21:16.09 | Elsia | ah you mean the WDB comment |
| 21:16.23 | Elsia | yes, hmm |
| 21:16.42 | Arrowmaster | atleast 1 bit in the guid is probably going to be npc/player |
| 21:16.48 | Arrowmaster | i bet |
| 21:16.53 | Elsia | now that's a library actually... storing all the GUIDs to mob mappings for all non-players |
| 21:17.20 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 21:17.30 | Pkekyo| | thul: got any fancypants macro shots? I'm looking for something nice to make a website header out of :p |
| 21:17.59 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if the 'type of creature' he mentions means if we have a GUID for a boss we can figure out exactly which boss it is |
| 21:18.15 | thul | Pkekyo|: hmm, got some flowers and stuff early in my gallery |
| 21:18.30 | Elsia | let me read his comment again, originally I read this as the GUID contains the reference to the model data |
| 21:18.40 | Pkekyo| | thul: linkagepinkage plx? :> |
| 21:19.01 | Elsia | if that is so you can determine model/texture at least, which isn't unique but pretty good |
| 21:19.45 | Pkekyo| | did you get my pm btw? |
| 21:20.17 | Arrowmaster | once we get a good amount of combatlogs we should be able to figure out a lot more info on guids |
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| 21:22.48 | Elsia | Ah found it: Slouken: The combat log ranges are the same. You'll find that the GUID decodes into the type of creature, which can then be matched against data in the WDB cache ... not that anyone would ever try to decode that data. :) |
| 21:24.19 | Elsia | Don't think he ever elaborated on that comment... will be interesting to see in practice. |
| 21:24.49 | thul | Pkekyo|: cainadamsson.deviantart.com |
| 21:25.27 | Elsia | really depends, it could turn into allowing to learn useful stuff about mobs that you have not in your target-set. Or it could be very basic only. |
| 21:26.34 | Pkekyo| | cheers thul, I'll have a look |
| 21:27.55 | thul | np |
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| 21:30.49 | Industrial | why doesnt do Classtimer do totems? |
| 21:31.06 | Industrial | its a class timer and it doesnt do a classes primary gimmick that uses timers? |
| 21:31.48 | Pkekyo| | alot of cool shots, thul |
| 21:31.52 | thul | thanks, |
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| 21:32.06 | Industrial | making me relog 10 times >:| |
| 21:32.29 | Industrial | what do I track totem timers with that doesnt display any totems to put down or anything (castsequence works just fine) |
| 21:32.43 | Pkekyo| | can't find anything like what I'm after though :< |
| 21:33.03 | thul | ah, ok. |
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| 21:33.37 | Pkekyo| | guess I'll have to ninja myself a macro lens and see if I can't get something done myself :p |
| 21:34.11 | SunTsu | Sonebody must have been tyoing around with the loot tables. 3 mobs subsequently drop 2 of beasts, 3 of beasts and 4 of beasts |
| 21:34.22 | SunTsu | toying even |
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| 21:35.38 | Pkekyo| | thul: you don't happen to have an obsolete macro lense you don't need? :p |
| 21:35.55 | thul | hehe |
| 21:35.57 | thul | nopes.. :-P |
| 21:36.28 | Pkekyo| | damnit |
| 21:36.35 | Pkekyo| | just spent all my money on a new rifle :p |
| 21:36.42 | thul | hehe |
| 21:36.58 | Pkekyo| | G36KC :> |
| 21:37.21 | CIA-10 | 03nogudnik * r60720 10Skillet/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:37.21 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 21:37.21 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.21 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.29 | Pkekyo| | so bloody expensive I can't afford a sidearm :> |
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| 21:43.26 | CIA-10 | 03nogudnik * r60721 10Skillet/SkilletQueue.lua: |
| 21:43.26 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 21:43.26 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.26 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:47.01 | Sole | good morning |
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| 21:55.11 | CIA-10 | 03nogudnik * r60722 10Skillet/SkilletQueue.lua: |
| 21:55.11 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 21:55.11 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.11 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.11 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:02.46 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: you buy real guns? |
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| 22:03.20 | Industrial | <emo>do they make you feel safe? |
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| 22:09.11 | Pkekyo| | IndustrialPkekyo|: you buy real guns? <--- airsoft :) |
| 22:09.55 | Pkekyo| | don't care much for owning real weapons except the odd potentially dangerous knife that's handy to have around for multiple purposes... |
| 22:09.58 | Arrowmaster | ok is bitlib suppost to use signed or unsigned ints? |
| 22:10.40 | nevcairiel | bit operations generally work on unsigned ints |
| 22:10.54 | nevcairiel | or rather, it shouldnt care |
| 22:11.23 | Pkekyo| | Industrial<emo>do they make you feel safe? <--- not if they were kept by this family, they wouldn't :p |
| 22:11.46 | Arrowmaster | lua> lua> bit.bor(0x00010000,0xFFFFFFFF) |
| 22:11.47 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: [string "return lua> bit.bor(0x00010000,0xFFFFFFFF)"]:1: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 22:11.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.bor(0x00010000,0xFFFFFFFF) |
| 22:11.55 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: -1, |
| 22:12.01 | Arrowmaster | unsigned my ass |
| 22:12.11 | Arrowmaster | although i have no clue what im doing |
| 22:12.16 | Grum | ofc its signed |
| 22:12.40 | Grum | its just the buildin int |
| 22:14.22 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.bor(0xFFFF0000, 0x0000FC00, 0x00000300, 0x000000F0, 0x0000000F) |
| 22:14.23 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: -1, |
| 22:14.34 | Arrowmaster | there thats all the *_MASK's |
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| 22:15.57 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 22:16.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%X", -1) |
| 22:16.01 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: FFFFFFFF, |
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| 22:19.56 | Zariel | Why wont this save positions of the frames? http://penguinwithm4a1.org/svn/trunk/Fux/FuxFrame.lua |
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| 22:21.52 | Zariel | nm |
| 22:23.34 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber(string.format("0x%X", bit.bor(0xFFFFFFFF)), 16) == bit.bor(0xFFFFFFFF) |
| 22:23.35 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 22:23.50 | Arrowmaster | 0xFFFFFFFF ~= 0xFFFFFFFF apparently |
| 22:24.17 | CIA-10 | 03rabbit * r60723 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Bugfix. |
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| 22:34.11 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60724 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix colors not updating properly with :SetColorContantTable |
| 22:34.27 | NightHawkTheSane | is it just me, or are dragonmaw transporters idiotically buggy |
| 22:34.37 | Ellipsis | yes, but it's awesome |
| 22:34.44 | NightHawkTheSane | no, its not. |
| 22:34.50 | Ellipsis | you can run around in circles and kill them without ever getting attacked |
| 22:35.01 | NightHawkTheSane | thats assuming i can ever fucking pull one |
| 22:35.05 | Ellipsis | lulz |
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| 22:35.19 | Ellipsis | just pull them from the dock |
| 22:35.20 | NightHawkTheSane | about 3/4 i pull just ignore it, or evade immediately and disappear |
| 22:35.29 | Ellipsis | it's the least buggy spot since they won't forget to land |
| 22:35.42 | Arrowmaster | anybody in wow right now? |
| 22:35.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah? |
| 22:36.04 | Arrowmaster | do /print bit.band(0xFFFFFFFF,0xFFFFFFFF) |
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| 22:36.24 | NightHawkTheSane | 4294967295 |
| 22:36.41 | Arrowmaster | seriously? |
| 22:36.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 22:36.50 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.band(0xFFFFFFFF,0xFFFFFFFF) |
| 22:36.50 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: -1, |
| 22:37.00 | Arrowmaster | clad|away: FIX YOUR BOT! |
| 22:37.18 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 22:37.40 | FryGuy | isn't that right? |
| 22:37.56 | FryGuy | 0xFFFFFFFF & 0xFFFFFFFF == 0xFFFFFFFF == -1 |
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| 22:38.32 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("0x%X", 0xFFFFFFFF) |
| 22:38.32 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0xFFFFFFFF, |
| 22:38.54 | Arrowmaster | its a bug in bitlib |
| 22:39.51 | FryGuy | lua> string.format("0x%X", bit.band(0xFFFFFFFF,0xFFFFFFFF)) |
| 22:39.51 | lua_bot | FryGuy: 0xFFFFFFFF, |
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| 22:40.06 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("0x%X", -1) |
| 22:40.07 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0xFFFFFFFF, |
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| 22:40.31 | Arrowmaster | that seems like a bug in string.format |
| 22:40.47 | Arrowmaster | from printf wiki page |
| 22:40.47 | FryGuy | how is that a bug? |
| 22:40.48 | Arrowmaster | x, X Print an unsigned int as a hexadecimal number. 'x' uses lower-case letters and 'X' uses upper-case. |
| 22:40.57 | Arrowmaster | unsigned |
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| 22:43.05 | vhaarr | Anyone know what those !profession whisper handler addons are called? |
| 22:43.13 | vhaarr | I need one for jewelcrafting, specifically. |
| 22:43.16 | vhaarr | !gem thingy |
| 22:43.35 | Ellipsis | CraftList2 |
| 22:43.36 | Diao | craftlist2 |
| 22:43.43 | vhaarr | thank you |
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| 22:50.25 | vhaarr | Man, this addon needs a smack with the cleanup-by-4. |
| 22:50.46 | Elsia | lua> bit.bxor(0xff,0x00) |
| 22:50.46 | lua_bot | Elsia: 255, |
| 22:50.51 | Olison | which one, vhaarr? |
| 22:50.58 | vhaarr | craftlist2 |
| 22:51.04 | vhaarr | maybe I can fix it later |
| 22:51.57 | Olison | yaay, mapster release |
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| 22:59.25 | CIA-10 | 03orionshock * r60725 10SickOfClickingDailies/embeds.xml: |
| 22:59.25 | CIA-10 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 22:59.25 | CIA-10 | -Load the GUI before the config |
| 22:59.25 | CIA-10 | -WTB load order documentation. |
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| 23:00.03 | CIA-10 | 03nogudnik * r60726 10Skillet/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:00.03 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 23:00.03 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.03 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.04 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.06 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.26 | kd3 | char copies are up, go now! |
| 23:00.45 | sb | uhm - they are up for 3 days now :p |
| 23:02.44 | Shadowed | No they haven't |
| 23:02.47 | Shadowed | you werent able to actually copy |
| 23:03.02 | sb | hmm yes? |
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| 23:03.53 | sb | " The character copy queue is currently full. " |
| 23:03.55 | sb | europe |
| 23:04.42 | sb | yesterday it worked - successfully copied my character *shrug* |
| 23:05.05 | durcyn | us character copy is up |
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| 23:12.52 | Arrowmaster | does UnitSex() still change on polyed units? |
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| 23:14.59 | mort | !rating 1496 |
| 23:15.00 | Xinhuan | 1496 rating gives 343(5s), 301(3s) and 260(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 23:23.56 | Pkekyo| | fastest way to get to Dalaran from UC? |
| 23:24.45 | Zariel | swim? |
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| 23:26.04 | Pkekyo| | willl do |
| 23:27.38 | Pkekyo| | rofl, some dongjob in my guild is giving me shit for not bein l70 yet >.< |
| 23:27.59 | Pkekyo| | started my char two years later than him, and I'm soon lvl 69 |
| 23:28.18 | Pkekyo| | he got 70 a couple of weeks ago |
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| 23:32.11 | Bruners | !rating 1600 |
| 23:32.12 | Xinhuan | 1600 rating gives 465(5s), 409(3s) and 353(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 23:34.42 | CIA-10 | 03nogudnik * r60727 10Skillet/ (SkilletStitch-1.1.lua UI/MainFrame.lua): |
| 23:34.42 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 23:34.42 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.42 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.02 | [Liquidor] | Anyone who can open http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=6578&r=Boulderfist&n=Liquidora for me? Need the content of <randomEnchantData></randomEnchantData> thanks. |
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| 23:43.04 | kergoth | anyone around that knows prat well? wondering if there's a module to basically do a regex search/replace on displayed text, to reformat it |
| 23:44.33 | Ellipsis | there is |
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| 23:45.33 | Ellipsis | I believe it's called CustomFilter |
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| 23:48.35 | kergoth | hmm will try it |
| 23:50.25 | sb | mhh - i cant delete my chat windows, wtf |
| 23:50.44 | sb | if i try to delete them, the tab remains, but without any window :o |
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| 23:54.07 | Silowyi | is there an addon that lets you have more macros and longer macros? |
| 23:54.22 | Ellipsis | supermacro |
| 23:54.38 | Silowyi | wowace? |
| 23:54.43 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 23:54.51 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 23:54.59 | Silowyi | is there one on wowace? |
| 23:55.07 | Ellipsis | no |
| 23:55.12 | NightHawkTheSane | supermacro is fine |
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| 23:55.50 | Silowyi | yes but updating from multiple sites gets annoying |
| 23:56.04 | Ellipsis | so get WUU |
| 23:56.31 | Silowyi | wuu? |
| 23:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, is it worth putting in a gm ticket if you have someone in your instance after you booted them from the raid? |
| 23:58.01 | Ellipsis | Silowyi: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9814.0 |
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