IRC log for #wowace on 20080214

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`00:01.38`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper altnames uses the api to add an ALTNAME field after the player name for example`
`00:01.49`	`chiper`	`gotcha`
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`00:05.57`	`chiper`	`I'm guessing that PlayerNames does something similar as well? Altering the PLAYERNAME field?`
`00:06.19`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61214 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: Merged "The Eye" and "Tempest Keep"`
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`00:08.15`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper yeah - that field is one of the standard set of fields prat defines`
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`00:09.37`	`Erica`	`DaPortrait has to be about the koolest mod ever... ever ever ever!`
`00:10.02`	`Erica`	`I love that thing. I feel better now but I had to say it`
`00:10.09`	`chiper`	`heh, I dont think i've been this excited about a programming project in over a year`
`00:10.23`	`chiper`	`erica: wuzzat?`
`00:10.39`	`Erica`	`3d models for your characters... like mazzle`
`00:10.48`	`testify`	`Anyone have any experience with Training Wheels? I'm having an issue where I can't add a spell check for any of my spells.`
`00:10.52`	`Erica`	`you can size them and put them wherever you want`
`00:10.53`	`sylvanaar`	`at least the avion packs have cool sounds - even if i cant get them to do anything`
`00:12.25`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`3d models are a silly waste of space..`
`00:12.45`	`Erica`	`Not if you enjoy them... it's why I play wow`
`00:12.49`	`rubik`	`i was just trying to think what you'd use those 3d models for but couldn't come up with anything`
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`00:13.00`	`rubik`	`but to each their own, of course.. :P`
`00:13.15`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61215 10AckisRecipeList/ (. AckisRecipeList.lua):`
`00:13.15`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`00:13.15`	`CIA-12`	`- Minor bug fix`
`00:13.15`	`CIA-12`	`- Changed externals`
`00:13.15`	`Erica`	`Whoever wrote that... thank you!`
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`00:13.25`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`well, thing is, if i want to stare at a 3d model of my character... I stare at my actual character...`
`00:13.46`	`Erica`	`If you don't want it, don't use it. That's the beauty of it lol`
`00:14.14`	`rubik`	`oh, i agree.. i'm not saying the author shouldn't have bothered or anything like that`
`00:14.14`	`Erica`	`Everybody's different... thats why there's different mods out there`
`00:14.44`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`rubik: well, I'm saying the author shouldn't have bothered, but thats just my opinion. ;)`
`00:14.46`	`aestil`	`Ellipsis: ping`
`00:14.54`	`Ellipsis`	`pong`
`00:15.06`	`rubik`	`NightHawkAtWork: :P`
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`00:25.18`	`Camci`	`lawl...`
`00:25.25`	`Camci`	`97 windows update updates..`
`00:26.13`	`rubik`	`i think i went through that with my new laptop the other day after i formatted it to replace vista with winxp`
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`00:26.26`	`Camci`	`heh`
`00:28.28`	`Camci`	`problem is i dont know what to do while i wait for the 97 downloads...`
`00:28.33`	`Camci`	`prolly will take like 1-2 hours..`
`00:28.42`	`Camci`	`dont think i can play wow? :P`
`00:28.48`	`Camci`	`it will slow down the downloads :p`
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`00:32.20`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`more like downloads will slow down wow.`
`00:32.22`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`read a book. :)`
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`00:32.33`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61216 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`00:32.33`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`00:32.33`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed bugs`
`00:32.33`	`CIA-12`	`- Tested and runs well`
`00:32.33`	`CIA-12`	`- Will start adding more and more vendor info`
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`00:34.59`	`Camci`	`[01:32] <NightHawkAtWork> read a book. :)`
`00:35.08`	`Camci`	`heh :P`
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`00:41.59`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61217 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/ (. Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc addon.lua):`
`00:41.59`	`CIA-12`	`Cartographer_QuestObjectives:`
`00:41.59`	`CIA-12`	`- Crayon-2.0 -> LibCrayon-3.0`
`00:42.07`	`CIA-12`	`03jncl * r61218 10Skinner/ (10 files in 2 dirs):`
`00:42.07`	`CIA-12`	`Skinner: Skinned EveryQuest`
`00:42.07`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated Armory, GroupCalendar, AucAdvanced & InventoryOnPar skins`
`00:42.07`	`CIA-12`	`- Included some PTR 2.4 fixes`
`00:42.07`	`CIA-12`	`- Added support for Prat_WIM`
`00:47.12`	`Diao`	`sylvanaar you know with prat formatting it kinda bugs the whispers in prat_wim?`
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`00:47.22`	`Diao`	`the [From] and [To] work, but since it puts your own name`
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`00:48.46`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah i suppose it does`
`00:50.41`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61220 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/embeds.xml:`
`00:50.41`	`CIA-12`	`Cartographer_QuestObjectives:`
`00:50.41`	`CIA-12`	`- Forgot the xml`
`00:50.45`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61219 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: added button to OnClick callback`
`00:51.59`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61221 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc embeds.xml):`
`00:51.59`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`00:51.59`	`CIA-12`	`- Forgot xml`
`00:52.44`	`sylvanaar`	`Diao actually im not sure what you mean`
`00:53.56`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61222 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/Mail.tga: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: better icon`
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`00:55.51`	`sylvanaar`	`Diao did wim not put your name there (I cant remember)`
`00:56.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`so we keep getting automaticly put back into the raid we were in on monday when our server crashed`
`00:56.40`	`sylvanaar`	`Diao i have been using my own version of it since November`
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`01:02.51`	`CIA-12`	`03sayclub * r61223 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-koKR.lua:`
`01:02.51`	`CIA-12`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`01:02.52`	`CIA-12`	`- koKR Update`
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`01:08.21`	`Camci`	`i need java to be able to run WAU right?`
`01:09.19`	`Fin`	`no`
`01:09.36`	`Fin`	`.NET for sylvanaar's WAU though`
`01:09.48`	`Camci`	`WAU2 ?`
`01:10.00`	`Camci`	`maybe it was .NET, havent installed it yet, just formatted windows`
`01:10.08`	`Camci`	`and cant run WAU2`
`01:10.15`	`Camci`	`gonna try .NET thingie`
`01:10.45`	`CIA-12`	`03peragor * r61224 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua:`
`01:10.45`	`CIA-12`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`01:10.45`	`CIA-12`	`- Small fix to update the layout immediately after toggling the Tank Spacer.`
`01:11.16`	`Camci`	`Do i need to install 1.1 and 2 of NET before 3.0 or can i just install 3.0 withuot the tohers?`
`01:11.41`	`CIA-12`	`03daviesh * r61225 10AtlasLoot/ (9 files in 6 dirs):`
`01:11.41`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot:`
`01:11.41`	`CIA-12`	`- Cleaned up XML files after Hegarols deletions, created needed spanish files`
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`01:17.21`	`Diao`	`sylvanaar it does put your own name there, but with the formatting it gets confusing :p`
`01:21.13`	`sylvanaar`	`Diao idk - im trying to stop wim from tainting the ChatEditBox - idk what to say about the formatting`
`01:21.18`	`Diao`	`ah ok`
`01:22.05`	`Dashkal`	`heh, sometimes I find myself loving lua just for the bizarre things you can do (and most of them should never be actually used in code) :p`
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`01:22.55`	`Erica`	`Is there a way to configure Grid to show raid group numbers?`
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`01:26.10`	`Diao`	`ugh`
`01:26.18`	`Diao`	`blizz really needs to fix the whole feared through the world thing`
`01:26.30`	`Diao`	`are your grid groups not organize by raid group?`
`01:26.54`	`Diao`	`organized*`
`01:26.56`	`Erica`	`I haven't been in a raid to check it yet... I just saw a layout where they had the numbers on them`
`01:27.06`	`Diao`	`oh`
`01:27.10`	`Diao`	`it's probably an extra module`
`01:27.19`	`Erica`	`I was in a party earlier using it and converted to raid... no numbers though`
`01:27.40`	`Diao`	`yeah by default it doesn't have the number`
`01:28.15`	`Erica`	`I'm not a programmer but I wish someone would write a module to do that`
`01:29.02`	`Diao`	`is there really a use for it though? :o`
`01:29.16`	`Erica`	`Just satisfies my ocd`
`01:29.27`	`Erica`	`that's important to me`
`01:30.15`	`Diao`	`lol`
`01:30.33`	`Erica`	`need to run for now... have fun and thanks!`
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`01:38.55`	`doxxx`	`Are ck or xbeeps around? Latest PitBull revision has some problems with health bars not updating correctly when health changes.`
`01:39.05`	`doxxx`	`I posted a description in the PitBull thread.`
`01:39.22`	`CIA-12`	`03sylvanaar * r61226 10Prat_WIM/WIM_Hooks.lua:`
`01:39.22`	`CIA-12`	`Prat_WIM: Fix issue with WIM tainting the chat input stream - but still allow`
`01:39.22`	`CIA-12`	`insertion of links into WIM's editbox. I also removed some hooks which didn't`
`01:39.22`	`CIA-12`	`appear to be doing anything - but I may just not know what they were for.`
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`01:49.51`	`Camci`	`Cant find where i can get WUA2`
`01:49.53`	`Camci`	`?`
`01:50.48`	`doxxx`	`http://www.wowace.com/wau2/`
`01:51.09`	`Camci`	`thanks`
`01:51.27`	`Camci`	`tho, what would you recommend? :P`
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`01:56.18`	`sylvanaar`	`nn folks`
`01:56.28`	`doxxx`	`well, it doesn't seem to be working for me. I get the JavaWebStart prompt, I click Run and it does nothing.`
`01:56.50`	`doxxx`	`The original WAU still works although today it seems to be crashing after running for a few minutes.`
`01:56.58`	`doxxx`	`I was able to use it to udpate though.`
`01:57.15`	`Camci`	`WAU2 works for me, havent tried any other so thought i would ask :p`
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`02:01.36`	`Camci`	`just had the slowest loading screen on wow ever......`
`02:01.44`	`Camci`	`never been like that before`
`02:02.21`	`PHL-Chuck`	`hey guys, I'm trying to make a batch file to 7zip my addons and just want to make the output name have the time/date but I can't find how to do that in a .bat file :/ can anyone shed some light on how to do that? I got it backing up the files to a static file name but just wanna have fresh archives everytime I do a backup`
`02:03.09`	`Ellipsis`	`doxxx: you there?`
`02:03.17`	`doxxx`	`yes`
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`02:05.11`	`Camci`	`is wont even log me in`
`02:05.18`	`Camci`	`is servers down or something?`
`02:05.23`	`doxxx`	`not for me`
`02:05.44`	`doxxx`	`just logged in fine`
`02:05.49`	`Camci`	`why doesnt it load then? i can log in but when i enter the game itself the loaded just wont start`
`02:05.51`	`PHL-Chuck`	`just got to char select just fine`
`02:05.57`	`Camci`	`i have to ALT-F4`
`02:06.16`	`doxxx`	`shrug try restarting your computer :P`
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`02:06.29`	`Camci`	`that might work :p`
`02:06.31`	`Camci`	`brb`
`02:07.45`	`xyu`	`recount shouldn't count critters as dmg imo :P`
`02:07.55`	`xyu`	`there are cheatarz!!`
`02:08.20`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`it's awesome to get three critters nearby, and chain lightning them all`
`02:08.43`	`xyu`	`Pom pyro`
`02:08.52`	`xyu`	`only to get it resisted !`
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`02:09.06`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`heh`
`02:09.08`	`xyu`	`Does a resisted chain lightning still chain?`
`02:09.17`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`i believe so`
`02:13.30`	`Camci`	`Stupid firewall`
`02:13.34`	`Camci`	`blocking wow`
`02:13.36`	`Camci`	`:p`
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`02:18.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: suggestion for Threat-2.0/Omen which ever handles it, dont consider tank changes while the mob is casting, keep getting the warning on every infernal during Anetheron`
`02:19.26`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: There's a delay for tank change built in, but yeah, that cast is long enough that it gets past it :(`
`02:19.34`	`Antiarc`	`I'll see if I can find a way around it`
`02:19.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`if the mob is casting at the end of the delay, delay again`
`02:20.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can get time left on the cast so just delay until just right after the cast is over`
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`02:21.11`	`Knaledge`	`ckknight: Any reports or progress on the health bar issue?`
`02:21.19`	`Knaledge`	`updated in the past hour (pitbull) and it's the same issue again`
`02:21.23`	`Knaledge`	`health bars not updating`
`02:21.38`	`ckknight_`	`Knaledge: afaik, it's a bug with VisualHeal`
`02:21.43`	`ckknight_`	`run without that module for now`
`02:22.02`	`Knaledge`	`Just disable a module named "VisualHeal"?`
`02:22.06`	`Knaledge`	`Ill look for it`
`02:23.36`	`Knaledge`	`ok error is gone, looks like the health bars are back to normal`
`02:23.47`	`Knaledge`	`ooc - what would I look for or notice with VisualHeal enabled?`
`02:24.01`	`Knaledge`	`like - what does it do? The blurb about it on mouseover is a bit unclear`
`02:24.09`	`Ellipsis`	`are you a healer?`
`02:24.12`	`Knaledge`	`is this sort of like how "combat" text appears?`
`02:24.26`	`Knaledge`	`no, I'm not a healer - which is why I'm not sure why it'd be enabled by default`
`02:24.32`	`Ellipsis`	`well then you probably don't need it`
`02:24.33`	`Knaledge`	`if it's class specific`
`02:24.37`	`ulic`	`Knaledge: visual heal just puts a bar estimating how much youe heal will land for on average, if you aren't a healer you won't care.`
`02:24.40`	`Ellipsis`	`VisualHeal shows bars for incoming heals on units`
`02:24.47`	`Knaledge`	`ah ok`
`02:25.06`	`Knaledge`	`ok trying archimonde again`
`02:25.07`	`Knaledge`	`brb`
`02:25.10`	`Knaledge`	`thanks ckknight`
`02:26.20`	`CIA-12`	`03ggcall * r61227 10PlayerNotes/PlayerNotes.toc:`
`02:26.20`	`CIA-12`	`PlayerNotes:`
`02:26.20`	`CIA-12`	`- toc update`
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`02:38.36`	`sdouble`	`[20:06] <NightHawkAtWork> it's awesome to get three critters nearby, and chain lightning them all <- I once did this on the 2 rats outside of the AH in SW, and was resisted on both.`
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`02:40.07`	`CIA-12`	`WhoDrop`
`02:40.07`	`CIA-12`	`- add zhCN file`
`02:40.07`	`CIA-12`	`- upate toc file`
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`02:57.21`	`doxxx`	`Be back later, gotta go kill mags... I hope :P`
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`03:02.21`	`CIA-12`	`03ggcall * r61229 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.Locales.zhCN.lua WhoDrop.toc):`
`03:02.21`	`CIA-12`	`WhoDrop`
`03:02.21`	`CIA-12`	`- update zhCN file`
`03:02.21`	`CIA-12`	`- update toc file`
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`03:10.43`	`elusif`	`i'm using bartender to customize action bar but i'm left with no xp and rep bar`
`03:11.01`	`elusif`	`is there a mod that will display this as a percentage or in some other format somewhere on my screen`
`03:11.08`	`elusif`	`(in a format other than then default)`
`03:11.43`	`Diao`	`bt3 can handle xp and rep`
`03:11.47`	`elusif`	`ty`
`03:14.48`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61230 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua:`
`03:14.48`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`03:14.48`	`CIA-12`	`- zhCN update`
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`03:18.58`	`CIA-12`	`03ggcall * r61231 10WhoDrop/WhoDrop.Locales.zhCN.lua:`
`03:18.58`	`CIA-12`	`WhoDrop`
`03:18.58`	`CIA-12`	`- fix zhCN file`
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`03:21.08`	`Antiarc`	`http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021308_202013.jpg`
`03:21.10`	`Antiarc`	`\o/`
`03:21.58`	`Gngsk`	`what's that?`
`03:22.00`	`Gngsk`	`mob spells`
`03:22.13`	`Antiarc`	`It tracks spells that mobs cast and lets you search by mob or spell name`
`03:22.42`	`Gngsk`	`based on what you've seen?`
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`03:22.49`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah`
`03:26.23`	`Gngsk`	`Antiarc, possibility of using wowhead or some other established wow db to fill it out?`
`03:26.36`	`Antiarc`	`Gngsk: Not very good, since those DBs don't know which mobs cast what`
`03:26.42`	`Antiarc`	`Which is why I wrote this in the first place :P`
`03:26.42`	`Fisker-`	`i can fill you out free of charge hoho`
`03:27.01`	`Gngsk`	`seems to me you should fix the db mods then, not write your own`
`03:27.17`	`Gngsk`	`well, I guess it's kinda too late for that now`
`03:27.39`	`Antiarc`	`Meh. :P`
`03:28.31`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc * r61232 10MobSpells/ (. Libs/ MobSpells.lua MobSpells.toc): MobSpells: In-game mob ability browser. Only compatible with 2.4+!`
`03:28.34`	`Gngsk`	`well, lemme know when you're done filling it out I'll have a look see`
`03:31.07`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc * r61233 10MobSpells/ (Libs/ MobSpells.toc): MobSpells: Add LibStub lib, fix TOC`
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`03:32.26`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc * r61234 10MobSpells/MobSpells.lua: MobSpells: Remove auto-show on login. Oops.`
`03:33.23`	`Lukian`	`<CIA-12> ggcall * r61231 WhoDrop`
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`03:33.29`	`Lukian`	`3 seperate addons for this now? :/`
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`03:34.54`	`CIA-12`	`03scorpion * r61235 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-zhTW.lua:`
`03:34.54`	`CIA-12`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`03:34.54`	`CIA-12`	`- update zhTW`
`03:35.20`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc: pimp`
`03:35.42`	`Antiarc`	`It's pretty slick! I look forward to using it when 2.4 goes live.`
`03:35.58`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`03:36.00`	`Gngsk`	`can I look forward to using omen when 2.4 goes live?`
`03:36.04`	`Antiarc`	`YUp`
`03:36.10`	`Antiarc`	`I've got most of the major pieces fixed`
`03:36.13`	`ckknight`	`Omen 2.0!`
`03:36.15`	`Antiarc`	`I just need transfers to open up now`
`03:36.22`	`Gngsk`	`ahh`
`03:36.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`is syncing different?`
`03:36.49`	`Gngsk`	`couldn't you just get a guildies account info who has a toon copied over?`
`03:37.05`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: Threat's syncing?`
`03:37.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`as in if im using Threat-2.0 on ptr and theres people in my group with Threat-1.0 will they see my threat even though theirs doesnt work`
`03:37.27`	`Antiarc`	`No`
`03:37.34`	`Antiarc`	`Threat-2.0 is backwards incompatible with 1.0`
`03:37.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`different prefix?`
`03:37.59`	`Antiarc`	`Among other things, yes`
`03:38.08`	`CIA-12`	`03next96 * r61236 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:`
`03:38.08`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`03:38.08`	`CIA-12`	`- Update locale koKR`
`03:38.08`	`Antiarc`	`Different prefix, different data format, different command set`
`03:38.15`	`Antiarc`	`Not using Ace2 serialization anymore`
`03:38.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`ah what did you change the prefix to`
`03:38.22`	`Antiarc`	`TL2 for now`
`03:38.31`	`Antiarc`	`Want to keep the 3-character size`
`03:42.56`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc * r61237 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua:`
`03:42.56`	`CIA-12`	`Threat-1.0:`
`03:42.56`	`CIA-12`	`- Scream at people if they log into a 2.4+ client with Threat-1.0 enabled.`
`03:43.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`03:43.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`checking for 2.4.x and 0.4.x?`
`03:43.26`	`CIA-12`	`037destiny * r61238 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua:`
`03:43.26`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs:`
`03:43.26`	`CIA-12`	`- Kalecgos: koKR update`
`03:43.29`	`Antiarc`	`Just 2.4.x`
`03:43.39`	`Antiarc`	`People can continue to pretend it works on 0.4.x`
`03:44.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i liked the post asking how omen worked on ptr`
`03:44.08`	`Antiarc`	`Hehehe`
`03:44.12`	`Antiarc`	`That was pretty awesome`
`03:44.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`i replyed with "Exactly as expected, not at all"`
`03:44.45`	`Gngsk`	`Tekkub, could you plz tekkify passloot?`
`03:44.53`	`Tekkub`	`meh?`
`03:45.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtf is passloot?`
`03:46.01`	`Gngsk`	`it auto pass/greed on loot when the dialogue comes up with a config for certain zone/items etc`
`03:46.22`	`Tekkub`	`I already have an aut-greed floating around out there`
`03:46.24`	`Gngsk`	`well, it can need too but I don't use it for that`
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`03:46.51`	`Gngsk`	`it doesn't work right with teksloot either which is why I asked, but I suppose that'd be easier to work around then having him totally strip it down and rewrite it`
`03:47.43`	`Tekkub`	`right, when you roll it should fire the event that makes the loot frame go away`
`03:48.39`	`dashkal`	`~seen Ellipsis`
`03:48.43`	`purl`	`ellipsis <n=ellipsis@adsl-71-141-127-147.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 24m 3s ago, saying: 'VisualHeal shows bars for incoming heals on units'.`
`03:48.57`	`Tekkub`	`the loot frames don't hide when you click the button to cause a roll, they hide when CANCEL_LOOT_ROLL fires...`
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`03:51.28`	`genetik`	`vhaarr: what was that addon you were working on that stops people from clicking off flasks?`
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`03:55.22`	`chiper`	`~seen sylvanaar`
`03:55.24`	`purl`	`sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 59m 6s ago, saying: 'nn folks'.`
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`03:57.04`	`Sole`	`hi everyone`
`03:57.09`	`Gngsk`	`hi sole`
`03:57.23`	`chiper`	`dammit, WAU keeps crashing`
`03:57.25`	`Gngsk`	`still maintaining ant?`
`03:57.39`	`Sole`	`yes Im actually about to start working on a port`
`03:57.57`	`Gngsk`	`cool a few things that need to be fixed in the data files for cooldowns`
`03:58.27`	`chiper`	`I think it's that fucking banner add thats crashing it`
`03:58.33`	`Gngsk`	`gnome racial escape artist cooldown increased to 105s a few patches ago and the trigger for warrior's intercept needs to be changed to "Intercept Stun"`
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`03:59.55`	`Sole`	`k`
`04:00.03`	`Sole`	`Im going to have much shorter lists this time around`
`04:00.27`	`Gngsk`	`yah? just let people add their own data?`
`04:00.36`	`Sole`	`if they want yeah`
`04:00.46`	`Sole`	`but really I see no need to track EVERYTHING anymore :)`
`04:00.50`	`Sole`	`just the essentials`
`04:01.42`	`Sole`	`Gngsk: what do you think of cast bars and debuff bars?`
`04:02.41`	`Gngsk`	`I think castbars for non targeted entities can be useful for certain spells, mostly fear`
`04:03.04`	`Gngsk`	`buff bars are useful, but I didn't think ant did debuff bars`
`04:03.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`Sole: you talking about updating antagonist?`
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`04:03.18`	`Sole`	`Arrowmaster: yes`
`04:03.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`just update it for 2.4`
`04:03.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`everything is so much easier`
`04:03.48`	`Gngsk`	`2.4 + ace3 is the idea I think`
`04:03.54`	`Sole`	`^`
`04:04.01`	`Sole`	`well its not because of ace3`
`04:04.11`	`Gngsk`	`right, but might as well`
`04:04.19`	`Sole`	`its because my coding has improved since I first wrote ant`
`04:04.27`	`Sole`	`which was one of my first real bits of coding`
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`04:06.47`	`Gngsk`	`Tekkub, it looks like all PassLoot does is call RollOnLoot() wouldn't that eventually trigger the correct event to close group loot frame?`
`04:07.09`	`Tekkub`	`it should, that's all clicking a loot roll button does`
`04:07.39`	`Tekkub`	`http://git.tekkub.net/tekAutoGreed/`
`04:07.43`	`Tekkub`	`test with that`
`04:08.37`	`Gngsk`	`k`
`04:08.47`	`Tekkub`	`local orig = GroupLootFrame_OnShow`
`04:08.47`	`Tekkub`	`GroupLootFrame_OnShow = function (...) if not select(5, GetLootRollItemInfo(this.rollID)) then RollOnLoot(this.rollID, 2) end return orig(...) end`
`04:09.02`	`Tekkub`	`tweak the RollOnLoot second arg accordingly`
`04:09.05`	`Gngsk`	`I didn't even realize that existed, I suppose I could just edit that to suit my needs`
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`04:21.59`	`Diao`	`anyone here a vent admin that knows everything about it? :o`
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`04:22.54`	`ulic`	`a little`
`04:23.27`	`Diao`	`any idea if there's a way to put a password on guest accounts without using "global password" on the host control panel?`
`04:23.45`	`ulic`	`not that I know of.`
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`04:24.24`	`ulic`	`I think each user can only be connected once, so a special guest account wouldn't work I dont' think.`
`04:24.31`	`ulic`	`unless you only have one guest.`
`04:24.34`	`Diao`	`er`
`04:24.35`	`Diao`	`well`
`04:24.38`	`Diao`	`on the vent 3.0`
`04:24.45`	`Diao`	`there's a default "guest" account`
`04:24.52`	`Diao`	`which people who don't have user accounts connect under`
`04:24.59`	`Diao`	`there's no way to create a new guest account is there?`
`04:25.13`	`ulic`	`well it labels them as guests, but they don't use any special account`
`04:25.36`	`ulic`	`well I guess there is kinda`
`04:25.41`	`Diao`	`o_o`
`04:25.50`	`ulic`	`I'm confusing myself too :)`
`04:25.53`	`Diao`	`lol`
`04:25.53`	`CIA-12`	`03next96 * r61239 10AckisRecipeList/embeds.xml:`
`04:25.53`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`04:25.53`	`CIA-12`	`- lib fix`
`04:26.09`	`Diao`	`the user editor comes with a default "guest" account that you can change permissions for`
`04:26.14`	`Diao`	`when you add a new user, they're no longer a guest afaik`
`04:26.26`	`ulic`	`you could make a regular account, call it ventguest, give it a pass, but I think it would only support one connection at a time.`
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`04:26.55`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`04:26.58`	`Diao`	`i was trying to figure out a way`
`04:27.12`	`Diao`	`for me to modify the server password without having to reboot it`
`04:27.20`	`ulic`	`ah :)`
`04:27.22`	`Diao`	`since for user accounts i can just edit the password in user editor and they just have to reconnect`
`04:27.27`	`Diao`	`without me having to reboot the server`
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`04:28.38`	`ulic`	`if you have more the one "guest" I think you'd have to make accounts for them all.`
`04:29.11`	`Diao`	`well`
`04:29.30`	`Diao`	`right now what we do is just have guild members with accounts`
`04:29.34`	`Diao`	`and they can invite their friends to the server`
`04:29.38`	`Diao`	`as guests without accounts`
`04:29.43`	`Diao`	`but i change the password every so often`
`04:29.49`	`Diao`	`and having to reboot the server to do it is annoying`
`04:30.04`	`Diao`	`especially since i have to open up a browser and go to my host's page and do it instead of just right clicking and going to user editor in vent`
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`04:33.48`	`ulic`	`oh, try rcon`
`04:33.54`	`ulic`	`password <newpassword>`
`04:34.08`	`Diao`	`it got removed`
`04:34.10`	`Diao`	`in 3.0`
`04:34.10`	`Diao`	`lol`
`04:34.28`	`Diao`	`or wait`
`04:34.29`	`Diao`	`hmm`
`04:34.42`	`Diao`	`wtf`
`04:34.45`	`Diao`	`someone said it got removed`
`04:34.47`	`ulic`	`I'm in rcon and I see the command`
`04:34.51`	`ulic`	`I didn't try it though :)`
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`04:34.57`	`ulic`	`don't want to reset mine right now :)`
`04:35.05`	`Diao`	`haha`
`04:35.26`	`CIA-12`	`03parnic * r61240 10IceHUD/modules/PlayerHealth.lua:`
`04:35.26`	`CIA-12`	`IceHUD:`
`04:35.26`	`CIA-12`	`- added party leader, status, master looter, and pvp icons to the player health bar`
`04:35.52`	`Diao`	`hm`
`04:35.54`	`Diao`	`it does seem to work`
`04:35.55`	`Diao`	`i think`
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`04:37.32`	`ulic`	`I always forget about rcon, I don't know why they don't just add that stuff into the gui`
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`04:43.15`	`chiper`	`what's the easiest way to get the first word in a string?`
`04:44.49`	`Antiarc`	`local word = string:match("%a+")`
`04:44.52`	`Antiarc`	`Probably`
`04:45.22`	`Cryect`	`might want to capture it`
`04:45.48`	`chiper`	`Antiarc: "string" in that case being the variable name?`
`04:45.50`	`Cryect`	`so local word = string:match("(%a+)")`
`04:45.52`	`Antiarc`	`yes`
`04:45.53`	`Cryect`	`yeah`
`04:46.15`	`chiper`	`thanks`
`04:46.41`	`Antiarc`	`You could also (" "):split(string)`
`04:46.42`	`Antiarc`	`But eh`
`04:50.22`	`CIA-12`	`03ggcall * r61241 10WhoDrop/WhoDrop.toc:`
`04:50.22`	`CIA-12`	`WhoDrop`
`04:50.22`	`CIA-12`	`- fix toc file`
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`04:53.57`	`Antiarc`	`So I have a friend who writes for wowinsider and he says that the character copy is coming back up`
`04:54.02`	`Antiarc`	`Soooo start your F5 buttons`
`04:54.06`	`Diao`	`lol`
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`04:56.37`	`ulic`	`Diao: did rcon work?`
`04:56.49`	`Diao`	`yeah`
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`05:08.34`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro * r61242 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/ (GatherMate_Sharing.lua Locales/GatherMate_Sharing-enUS.lua): GatherMate_Sharing: adding some channel options`
`05:10.55`	`CIA-12`	`03starinnia * r61243 10MobileVault/Core.lua: MobileVault: Shift-clicking on a slot in the image will add the item link to your chat edit box`
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`05:19.12`	`chiper`	`ok, need some advice. what's the best way to replace several words in a string? ie, I have a string with a bunch of different tags, like "&name is a &level &class in &guild" and I need to replace all those values, but I cant count on those values being there`
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`05:19.21`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro * r61244 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/ (GatherMate_Sharing.lua Locales/GatherMate_Sharing-enUS.lua): GatherMate_Sharing: fleshed out the channel setup more`
`05:19.26`	`chiper`	`<-- learning lua tonight :P`
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`05:20.11`	`Cryect`	`using string.gsub`
`05:22.30`	`chiper`	`just run it for each possible value`
`05:22.32`	`chiper`	`?`
`05:23.40`	`Cryect`	`yeah`
`05:23.50`	`chiper`	`k`
`05:24.24`	`Killmore`	`fucking kalecgos at 8% :(`
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`05:29.22`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61245 10AckisRecipeList/embeds.xml:`
`05:29.22`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`05:29.22`	`CIA-12`	`- Fix embeds.xml`
`05:29.32`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.iheartchaos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/wowval-hotbear.jpg`
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`05:30.45`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61246 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Change OnClick function callback argument ordering`
`05:32.03`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61247 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: Make right click menu look better, code cleanups, and also use the new mail icon that was committed.`
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`05:32.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`Xinhuan: is HandyNotes a Cartographer_Notes replacement?`
`05:32.37`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`05:32.56`	`Xinhuan`	`we currently have 3 "sample" plugins`
`05:33.15`	`Xinhuan`	`but i haven't written the one that allows you to create a note everywhere you want`
`05:34.07`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61248 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/ (. embeds.xml):`
`05:34.07`	`CIA-12`	`Cartographer_QuestObjectives:`
`05:34.07`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed embeds.xml sorry`
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`05:38.41`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc?`
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`05:46.11`	`aestil`	`stupid place where i d/l my movies.`
`05:46.23`	`aestil`	`why did they make anchorman a file that my ps3 won't play.`
`05:48.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`what kinda file is it?`
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`05:53.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`So, can someone familar with bigwigs say why sometimes the Hyjal wave alerts have the wave contents in them, but sometimes dont?`
`05:54.43`	`CIA-12`	`037destiny * r61249 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua:`
`05:54.43`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs:`
`05:54.43`	`CIA-12`	`- Brutallus: fix typo koKR`
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`05:56.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`NightHawkTheSane: because not everybody in your raid has bigwigs`
`05:56.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`explain?`
`05:57.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`the person talking to the npc to start the waves needs to have bigwigs`
`05:57.04`	`Arcaia`	`Quick Someone link me to a Guild that is SSC/TK that is Recruiting Rogues/Paladins!`
`05:57.15`	`Arcaia`	`Alliance US PVP ;P`
`05:57.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm. Okay. fair answer, but I don't understand why it makes a difference?`
`05:57.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`wait, nevermind..`
`05:57.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`because its the only way to tell what boss the waves are for`
`05:57.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
`05:58.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that occured to me right after i said it`
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`06:03.34`	`CIA-12`	`03nemes * r61250 10Quartz/locale/ (6 files): Quartz: add option to show total cast time`
`06:04.25`	`CIA-12`	`03nemes * r61251 10Quartz/Focus/Focus.lua: Quartz: add total cast time display, enabled by default`
`06:04.40`	`CIA-12`	`03nemes * r61252 10Quartz/Player/Player.lua: Quartz: add total cast time display, enabled by default`
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`06:05.29`	`CIA-12`	`03nemes * r61254 10Quartz/Tradeskill/Tradeskill.lua: Quartz: add total cast time display, enabled by default`
`06:09.02`	`Mikk`	`~seen Iceroth`
`06:09.04`	`purl`	`iceroth <n=tatexi@a91-155-180-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 58d 8h 22m 39s ago, saying: 'emacs is a decent OS, it just lacks a good text editor'.`
`06:09.27`	`Mikk`	`yoink. that wasn't exactly yesterday.`
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`06:10.50`	`chiper`	`can anybody point me to a good example of how to use an editbox in dewdrop?`
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`06:36.34`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc?`
`06:36.42`	`Antiarc`	`Yo`
`06:36.43`	`Antiarc`	`What's up?`
`06:36.47`	`Killmore`	`hey !`
`06:36.53`	`Killmore`	`need testing for omen 2.4ptr ?`
`06:37.37`	`Antiarc`	`Soon. Not yet, but soon.`
`06:38.45`	`Killmore`	`ok theres no omen/threat version ready for testing yet ?`
`06:38.49`	`Antiarc`	`No`
`06:38.57`	`Antiarc`	`I've only been working on it a couple of days :P`
`06:39.01`	`Antiarc`	`And it's a really heavy duty rewrite`
`06:39.09`	`chiper`	`yes! it works!`
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`06:40.33`	`Guillotine`	`chiper: you need someone to log on and off for you?`
`06:40.41`	`chiper`	`naw, I got it`
`06:40.46`	`chiper`	`patience purvailed`
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`07:10.30`	`Stanzilla`	`morning :)`
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`07:31.50`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61255 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: Add nil checks`
`07:32.06`	`chiper`	`http://gallery.chipersoft.com/v/WoW/WoWScrnShot_021208_212824.jpg.html`
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`07:33.57`	`Xinhuan`	`Antiarc, how's progress on ThreatLib?`
`07:34.06`	`Xinhuan`	`does it still use babble?`
`07:34.11`	`Antiarc`	`Going well. Got gains fixed up, working on paladins right now`
`07:34.14`	`Antiarc`	`And no, no babble :)`
`07:34.19`	`Antiarc`	`All spell and NPC IDs`
`07:34.25`	`Xinhuan`	`neato`
`07:34.28`	`Xinhuan`	`looking forward to it`
`07:35.02`	`Kerafyrm`	`If Antiarc was local, I'd be dropping off a six pack of something for him..`
`07:35.02`	`Xinhuan`	`what's wrong with paladins? ^^`
`07:35.25`	`Antiarc`	`Well, it uses the Threat-1.0 framework`
`07:35.28`	`Antiarc`	`Lots has changed in 2.3`
`07:35.29`	`Antiarc`	`2.0`
`07:35.36`	`Xinhuan`	`actually`
`07:35.39`	`Xinhuan`	`when you have a debuff`
`07:35.45`	`Xinhuan`	`how do you know the spellID of that debuff?`
`07:36.00`	`Xinhuan`	`like, without using combat log events to initially detect that debuff`
`07:36.22`	`Antiarc`	`Right now, I iterate a list of known IDs and compare GetSpellInfo(id)'s name and rank`
`07:36.25`	`Antiarc`	`It sucks and is slow`
`07:36.28`	`Antiarc`	`But there's no other way to do it`
`07:36.34`	`Antiarc`	`I've requested the ability to get a spell ID from it`
`07:36.38`	`Xinhuan`	`say the boss casts Insignifigance, and you want to test if you got the debuff or resisted it`
`07:36.52`	`Antiarc`	`Well, you get SPELL_AURA_APPLIED if it lands`
`07:37.15`	`Antiarc`	`If it doesn't land, we don't really care, no threat mods go into effect`
`07:37.35`	`Xinhuan`	`so that event only tells you you have a new aura`
`07:37.41`	`Xinhuan`	`not which one is new`
`07:37.44`	`Xinhuan`	`so you still have to loop right?`
`07:37.45`	`Antiarc`	`No, it tells you which one is new`
`07:37.55`	`Xinhuan`	`does it give you the spellID?`
`07:37.58`	`Antiarc`	`Yes`
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`07:38.16`	`Antiarc`	`But when auras change I loop through to rebuild your modifiers, because some can't be reversed`
`07:38.28`	`Antiarc`	`Insignificance is a good one because it makes your multiplier 0`
`07:38.41`	`Antiarc`	`And you can't perform a reverse operation to get your pre-insignificance modifier`
`07:38.44`	`Antiarc`	`So I just rebuild it`
`07:38.51`	`Xinhuan`	`that makes sense`
`07:38.54`	`Xinhuan`	`since you can't divide by 0`
`07:39.23`	`Xinhuan`	`what about world bosses, like kazzak, is the mod ID part still consistent?`
`07:39.45`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, there's a static NPC ID`
`07:39.48`	`Antiarc`	`That's embedded in the GUID`
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`07:40.30`	`Antiarc`	`See http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/NPCModules/TempestKeep/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua`
`07:41.22`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc: omg you need to retype every fucking bossmods ?! :\|`
`07:41.40`	`Antiarc`	`Killmore: Yeah, but the changes are relatively slight`
`07:41.45`	`nevcairiel`	`like that wasnt expected :P`
`07:41.46`	`Antiarc`	`No relocalization has to be done`
`07:41.49`	`Antiarc`	`And they'll be slimmed down`
`07:42.17`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc: and now since 2.4, did every mob even with the same name got a own threat list ?`
`07:42.18`	`Xinhuan`	`~wdn`
`07:42.19`	`purl`	`World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/`
`07:42.24`	`nevcairiel`	`i suppose the number-of-mobs-detection for global aggro works much better now ? :)`
`07:42.26`	`Killmore`	`with threat I mean`
`07:43.03`	`Antiarc`	`Killmore: Yup, we'll have threat-per-mob, not threat-per-name`
`07:43.09`	`Killmore`	`nice !`
`07:43.12`	`Kerafyrm`	`thats bloody awesome!`
`07:43.33`	`Guillotine`	`night all :)`
`07:43.37`	`Guillotine`	`Good luck Antiarc`
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`08:17.21`	`Stanzilla`	`http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/13/wheelchair.dumping/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCVideo < WTF?`
`08:17.33`	`ckknight`	`o hai thar`
`08:17.35`	`ckknight`	`I didn't see you come in.`
`08:17.37`	`ckknight`	`welcome.`
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`08:20.30`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61256 10Chinchilla/ (30 files in 8 dirs):`
`08:20.30`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla - initial commit`
`08:20.30`	`CIA-12`	`Minimap addon of awesomeness. chewing sound. It'll nibble your hay pellets.`
`08:20.48`	`Recluse`	`given a frame with an onclick handler, if it is given a child secure frame, it becomes a secure frame itself by association, so does the onclick handler need to be revamped into the attribute system to function properly?`
`08:21.27`	`Nargiddley`	`no`
`08:21.53`	`Thorgard`	`Stanzilla, that's nuts.`
`08:21.59`	`Stanzilla`	`it is`
`08:22.10`	`Recluse`	`Nargiddley: generic onclick() is fine? =3`
`08:22.34`	`Thorgard`	`He can't be in a wheelchair! He drove a car!`
`08:22.34`	`Nargiddley`	`Recluse, yes`
`08:22.47`	`Recluse`	`sweet, ty`
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`08:27.39`	`Triumvirate`	`i needs help!!!`
`08:27.55`	`Triumvirate`	`if (event == RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT and AcceptRolls==true) then`
`08:27.55`	`Triumvirate`	`local player, roll, minRoll, maxRoll = RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT;`
`08:28.02`	`Triumvirate`	`what am i doing wrong?`
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`08:28.52`	`Triumvirate`	`it's not getting inside this if statement :(`
`08:29.34`	`Thuz`	`I suppose you have to select the data through string.find`
`08:30.10`	`nevcairiel`	`you need to do event == "RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT"`
`08:30.12`	`nevcairiel`	`in " "`
`08:30.21`	`Triumvirate`	`>.<`
`08:32.08`	`Triumvirate`	`if (event == "RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT") then`
`08:32.08`	`Triumvirate`	`local player, roll, minRoll, maxRoll = RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT;`
`08:32.09`	`Triumvirate`	`SendChatMessage("[GCG] I GOT TO THE ROLL!","RAID","ORCISH");`
`08:32.20`	`Triumvirate`	`still not getting to chat message`
`08:32.25`	`evl`	`Fuck WoW, http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/`
`08:32.27`	`nevcairiel`	`wait, how is that supposed to work?`
`08:32.30`	`Nargiddley`	`that 2nd line makes no sense`
`08:32.40`	`Nargiddley`	`what are you actually trying to do there ?`
`08:32.44`	`Triumvirate`	`probably not, i haven't gotten to it yet`
`08:33.11`	`Triumvirate`	`i'm trying to onevent a roll, then read it into those variables`
`08:33.14`	`nevcairiel`	`RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT is a constant with the format text for output, no event name`
`08:33.40`	`Triumvirate`	`oh wow...`
`08:33.52`	`Triumvirate`	`so how do i read a custom roll?`
`08:34.04`	`nevcairiel`	`no idea`
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`08:34.26`	`nevcairiel`	`i suppose you have to scan the chat_msg_system and parse it for the roll`
`08:34.29`	`pb_ee1`	`yo`
`08:34.33`	`nevcairiel`	`using deformat or so`
`08:34.49`	`Triumvirate`	`i couldn't figure out deformat for my life...`
`08:35.20`	`Triumvirate`	`so....`
`08:35.21`	`Triumvirate`	`if (event == "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM") then`
`08:35.27`	`Triumvirate`	`then parse the msg?`
`08:35.59`	`Triumvirate`	`sorry if i'm asking a stupid question, first addon >.<`
`08:36.36`	`ckknight_`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11384.0`
`08:39.31`	`Snago`	`ckknight: Except for being cute, what does it do?`
`08:39.40`	`ckknight_`	`it's a minimap addon`
`08:39.59`	`Tem\|AFK`	`lol@ creating a whole module for mousewheel scrolling`
`08:40.01`	`Tem\|AFK`	`overkill much?`
`08:40.05`	`Tem\|AFK`	`s/overkill/bloat/`
`08:40.12`	`ckknight_`	`go die in a fucking fire.`
`08:40.16`	`ckknight_`	`it's modular`
`08:40.30`	`Tem\|AFK`	`ZOMGMODULAR`
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`08:40.41`	`ckknight_`	`zomg you can fuck off`
`08:40.48`	`Tem\|AFK`	`okay`
`08:40.52`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`I need a modular modularizer`
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`08:41.33`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`wow`
`08:41.52`	`Thorgard`	`Them's fightin' words.`
`08:42.04`	`Tem\|AFK`	`meh, he's had it coming for like 2 years`
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`08:43.11`	`Triumvirate`	`since ck woke you guys up, think you could help me out? i can't figure out how to read/parse a custom roll :(`
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`08:43.58`	`Tem\|AFK`	`a custom roll?`
`08:44.02`	`Orionshock`	`Triumvirate: according to the wiki there is no such event`
`08:44.07`	`Orionshock`	`are you working with PTR?`
`08:44.08`	`Triumvirate`	`like /roll 80`
`08:44.19`	`Triumvirate`	`no, just a pet project me and a guildy took up`
`08:44.41`	`Triumvirate`	`we were going to write a complex proc/dot recorder for 2.4`
`08:44.41`	`Tem\|AFK`	`use a regex to convert the global string into a regex that'll parse it`
`08:44.48`	`Triumvirate`	`figured we'd get our feet wet with lua/xml`
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`08:45.04`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: Can I suggest breaking LibGUIDRegistry out into proper library format so I can just embed the library, rather than having to run it standalone?`
`08:45.07`	`Tem\|AFK`	`and parse every CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM (or whatever event actually gives the rolls, I'm just guessing at which) you see`
`08:45.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: proper library format?`
`08:45.45`	`Triumvirate`	`i'm doing chat_msg_system atm, but it doesn't seem to catch rolls`
`08:46.04`	`Antiarc`	`So you have /LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/Libs and /LibGUIDRegistry-0.1//LibGUIDRegistry-0.1//LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.lua`
`08:46.25`	`Antiarc`	`So you can just externals /LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 and just get the lua file, and take care of the libs it depends on yourself in your own externals`
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`08:47.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`most the libstub libs dont do it that way`
`08:47.08`	`Antiarc`	`Hrm`
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`08:47.13`	`nevcairiel`	`which?`
`08:47.14`	`nevcairiel`	`*shrug`
`08:47.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`a lot of them that start with Lib*`
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`08:48.57`	`nevcairiel`	`Hm dunno, i would still suggest doing it, so that embedding doesnt embed the libs with it`
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`08:49.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm`
`08:49.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats only if you use svn without --ignore-externals`
`08:49.32`	`Antiarc`	`Well`
`08:49.34`	`Xinhuan`	`do it the way i did LibGraph-2.0`
`08:49.46`	`Antiarc`	`If I embed LibGUIDRegistry, then it'll suck in the TOC and another copy of LibStub`
`08:49.50`	`Xinhuan`	`do it the way i did LibGraph-2.0\LibGraph-2.0.toc`
`08:50.00`	`Xinhuan`	`do it the way i did LibGraph-2.0\LibGraph-2.0\LibGraph-2.0.lua`
`08:50.01`	`Antiarc`	`Which is unnecessary since the TOC won't ever get read and I already have a copy of LibStub`
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`08:50.12`	`Xinhuan`	`:0`
`08:51.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`sure whatever`
`08:51.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`i dont care`
`08:51.20`	`Antiarc`	`k. you want to rearrange it or shall I?`
`08:51.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can`
`08:51.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`just put the lua and lib.xml in a new folder`
`08:51.39`	`Triumvirate`	`basically i'm trying to catch a roll-off between two individuals`
`08:51.49`	`Recluse`	`if you have no savedvar, VARIABLES_LOADED event still fires at the point where it would have loaded?`
`08:51.53`	`Triumvirate`	`but i can't seem to catch the stuff that is printed to the chat log`
`08:52.04`	`Triumvirate`	`like, the output from "/roll 50"`
`08:52.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats a system message i think`
`08:52.39`	`Triumvirate`	`shouldn't if (event == "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM") catch it then?`
`08:52.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`look at groupfu`
`08:53.05`	`Thuz`	`Triumvirate: have you registered the event to something then?`
`08:53.12`	`Triumvirate`	`i did, but it handles it with deformat`
`08:53.22`	`Thuz`	`like, something:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM")`
`08:53.34`	`Triumvirate`	`omg....`
`08:53.35`	`Triumvirate`	`lol`
`08:53.47`	`Triumvirate`	`<3`
`08:54.04`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61257 10Chinchilla/ (embeds.xml libs/): Chinchilla - add svn:externals and lib references`
`08:54.22`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc * r61258 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/ (5 files in 2 dirs): LibGUIDLibGUIDRegistry-0.1: Rearrange for pleasant embedding`
`08:54.34`	`CIA-12`	`037destiny * r61259 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua:`
`08:54.34`	`CIA-12`	`Quartz:`
`08:54.34`	`CIA-12`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`08:55.49`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_021408_015434.jpg`
`08:55.56`	`Orionshock`	`i have a small issue :D`
`08:56.03`	`Xinhuan`	`oh?`
`08:56.16`	`Xinhuan`	`reoptimize it :)`
`08:56.24`	`Orionshock`	`ya, center taboo region, it's ploting a line though it`
`08:56.37`	`Xinhuan`	`try reoptimizing it`
`08:56.50`	`nevcairiel`	`taboo regions only define regions where nodes are ignored, i think lines may still go through it?`
`08:56.53`	`Orionshock`	`have, a few times >.>`
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`08:57.12`	`Orionshock`	`just did, still have line`
`08:57.23`	`Xinhuan`	`ok delete the route and recreate it and reoptimize`
`08:57.26`	`Xinhuan`	`see what you get`
`08:57.43`	`Xinhuan`	`maybe i need to bias the thing further`
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`08:58.51`	`Xinhuan`	`if that doesn't work, i'm going to ask you to open up and edit a file`
`08:59.18`	`Orionshock`	`there we go`
`08:59.20`	`Orionshock`	`worked`
`08:59.44`	`Xinhuan`	`the problem is with the pathing inside that silly region`
`08:59.48`	`Xinhuan`	`if you have a line of nodes going in`
`08:59.51`	`Orionshock`	`but one thing i notice is that the lines are all fubarish, some of them angle out to an unknown point then go to the next node`
`09:00.00`	`Xinhuan`	`you don't necessarily have "unvisited" nodes to go out by`
`09:00.02`	`Xinhuan`	`get what i mean?`
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`09:00.20`	`Xinhuan`	`check the contents of the route in the Information tab`
`09:00.22`	`Orionshock`	`ya`
`09:00.36`	`Xinhuan`	`what does it say the route is made out of?`
`09:01.27`	`Xinhuan`	`it should tell you "This route contains the following nodes:" X, Y, Z, etc`
`09:01.31`	`Megalon`	`Orionshock: perhaps you filtered the display of nodes, but not what nodes the route should visit`
`09:01.40`	`Orionshock`	`nevermind, had some nodes turned off for display`
`09:01.45`	`Xinhuan`	`thought so!`
`09:02.00`	`Xinhuan`	`i specifically added the information tab so you can debug stuff like that`
`09:02.35`	`Xinhuan`	`i also see you didn't cluster the route ;p`
`09:03.24`	`Orionshock`	`can't stand it`
`09:03.36`	`Xinhuan`	`how come?`
`09:03.52`	`Recluse`	`i'm not sure about clustering, i never know which nodes in a cluster are the ones i'm looking for`
`09:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc * r61260 10/branches/Threat-2.0/ (16 files in 5 dirs):`
`09:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`Threat-2.0:`
`09:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`- Hunter, Priest, Paladin module fixes`
`09:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`- Libraries externalized properly`
`09:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`- Minor bugfixes`
`09:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`- Added handling for energize and damage shields`
`09:04.18`	`Xinhuan`	`clustering makes a route like this`
`09:04.19`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp3.jpg`
`09:04.21`	`Xinhuan`	`become like this`
`09:04.23`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp5.jpg`
`09:04.33`	`Xinhuan`	`so you have "less travel points" to cover a radius of nodes`
`09:04.48`	`Orionshock`	`im too OCD to put up with it`
`09:05.10`	`xyu`	`hah`
`09:05.11`	`Xinhuan`	`the resultant route thus becomes much faster to generate, and also becomes a lot shorter`
`09:06.29`	`Orionshock`	`ooo, Threat-2.0 eh?`
`09:06.32`	`xyu`	`mining in nagrand is such a cutthrooat place.`
`09:06.44`	`xyu`	`I think i do more pvp mining than i do doing dailies :P`
`09:07.01`	`Recluse`	`:/ wau doesn't like me today lol random crashes`
`09:07.13`	`xyu`	`oh shiz, he's taking my rich adamantite! have at thee knave!`
`09:07.49`	`mitch0`	`btw, will the new combat log thing make it possible to write a truly accurate damage meter / threat meter?`
`09:08.08`	`xyu`	`i think it depends on how they do it.`
`09:08.17`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: I think files is down. that causes wau to crash`
`09:08.24`	`xyu`	`will each unit have its own ID?`
`09:08.26`	`mitch0`	`xyu: isn't it up on ptr already?`
`09:08.34`	`xyu`	`oh i suppose it is`
`09:08.35`	`Recluse`	`ah, that may be it`
`09:08.49`	`xyu`	`i'm curious how the units are identified.`
`09:09.09`	`mitch0`	`thought someone here checked it out already :)`
`09:09.36`	`Kivin`	`looks like us login servers aren't accepting connectinos`
`09:09.43`	`Kivin`	`s/connections`
`09:10.15`	`Kerafyrm`	`oh?`
`09:10.24`	`xyu`	`uh`
`09:10.35`	`Kivin`	`oh, there it goes. tried 5 times, restarted the client, and it worked fine. stupid fracking thing.`
`09:10.45`	`xyu`	`does that screenshot you posted of clustering really show you at 83,000g? >< farma!@!!`
`09:11.09`	`Antiarc`	`Ooh`
`09:11.12`	`Antiarc`	`I just had a kickass mod idea`
`09:11.24`	`Antiarc`	`A mod that reports your money at whatever level you set it at for screenshots`
`09:11.29`	`Corgan`	`Dicks.`
`09:11.29`	`Antiarc`	`So you can impress all your friends!`
`09:11.37`	`Kivin`	`:P`
`09:11.38`	`Antiarc`	`(Or hide your bought goldz)`
`09:11.43`	`mitch0`	`xyu: " unique identifiers for units with the same name within the combat log -- great for log analysis. " <- that sounds promising at least`
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`09:12.35`	`Codayus`	`Or hide the proceeds of your AH rigging...`
`09:12.36`	`xyu`	`yeah i'm looking forward to it. Because my resto druids healing meters are totally screwed up or he is a big fat liar. he's always like "ohhh i'm number 1 again"`
`09:12.41`	`xyu`	`while on my recount he's at like #6`
`09:12.47`	`Codayus`	`Because you get tired of guildies trying to hit you up for loans.`
`09:12.47`	`xyu`	`so i just -_-;;`
`09:13.27`	`xyu`	`i do damn good DPS on recount, but i suck balls on DamageMeters :D`
`09:13.45`	`Codayus`	`xyu: Incidentally, the new log stuff won't help Lifebloom, because it really IS the MTs lifebloom that heals him, even if you were the one who cast it.`
`09:13.45`	`mitch0`	`xyu: I just hope that all combat data will be sent to everyone who requests it so we won't need to have everyone install the same addon (or compatible one) for accurate data`
`09:14.28`	`xyu`	`yeah codayus, that is unfortunate.`
`09:14.32`	`Codayus`	`Yeah.`
`09:14.35`	`mitch0`	`codayus: can't it be tracked? like x casts, then it bumps from y to z?`
`09:14.55`	`mitch0`	`but the bump from y to z could be added to x instead of y`
`09:15.24`	`mitch0`	`(dunno what happens when two lifeblooms are cast on the the same person though)`
`09:15.25`	`Codayus`	`mitch0: Yeah, kinda. Sorta. But. The combat log is very clear. Warrior X's Lifebloom heals him for Y. You can do some fancy magic to try and guess which druid cast it, but ultimately, that's all it is.`
`09:15.47`	`Antiarc`	`That's a good thing, actually`
`09:15.48`	`xyu`	`bring on the fancy magic!`
`09:15.54`	`Antiarc`	`Because it means the warrior gets the threat for that lifebloom`
`09:16.03`	`Antiarc`	`And not the poor druid rolling lifeblooms on a quarter of the raid :P`
`09:16.18`	`xyu`	`the same holds for earth shield too i think`
`09:16.19`	`Codayus`	`It has its good points, sure.`
`09:16.22`	`Orionshock`	`personally i don't get it, the mechanic is what it is, no BS about it, the warrior healed himself wrt lifebloom, why should the casting druid get credit?`
`09:16.25`	`Antiarc`	`Earth Shield and Prayer of Mending`
`09:16.40`	`Codayus`	`But IMHO, they should just make Lifebloom have sharply reduced threat if that's the concern.`
`09:17.06`	`Codayus`	`But eh, alright, being able to give a tank threat via healing is sometimes useful...`
`09:17.14`	`xyu`	`because w/o that druid, the warrior wouldn't have that buff. and it isn't a credit to the warrior whatsoever. It's all the druids effort`
`09:17.19`	`nevcairiel`	`it was before PoM got a cooldown`
`09:17.32`	`Codayus`	`I'm still heartbroken over the PoM nerf. :-(`
`09:17.36`	`nevcairiel`	`just spam it on the tank in shattered halls heroic, and he has aggro on all of them =P`
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`09:18.00`	`xyu`	`mages demand you find a new acronym for prayer of mending.`
`09:18.04`	`xyu`	`we claimed PoM first`
`09:18.14`	`Kivin`	`I'm not even a mage and i completely agree`
`09:18.14`	`Codayus`	`Priests finally get a really cool, unique, interesting, powerful heal... Wee, massive cooldown nerf.`
`09:18.16`	`nevcairiel`	`presence of mind is totally unimportant`
`09:18.23`	`Antiarc`	`ProM works`
`09:18.31`	`Codayus`	`Back to playing "hide the lightwell".`
`09:18.49`	`nevcairiel`	`just call it "instant <spell>" .. instant pyro sounds way better then pom pyro imho =P`
`09:19.14`	`xyu`	`that's just way too many syllables for us lazy folk`
`09:19.17`	`xyu`	`pom is short and sweet`
`09:19.25`	`xyu`	`in-stant. wow way too long to say`
`09:19.33`	`Codayus`	`Priests are a cooler class than mages though, so...`
`09:19.36`	`nevcairiel`	`oh well mages suck anyway`
`09:19.40`	`Codayus`	`Exactly.`
`09:20.13`	`xyu`	`we'll have our glory again, someday.`
`09:20.17`	`xyu`	`when they delete warlocks`
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`09:22.28`	`Recluse`	`any reason why addon:OnLoad() would not be called? i can call it manually w/o problems...`
`09:22.50`	`nevcairiel`	`any reason it should get called?`
`09:22.52`	`Orionshock`	`b/c it's not a frame`
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`09:23.47`	`Recluse`	`hmm, :onload() doesn't happen for the addon itself?`
`09:23.56`	`mitch0`	`so, does anyone have hands-on experience with the new combat log thing?`
`09:23.58`	`Kivin`	`:OnInitialize()`
`09:24.06`	`Recluse`	`ah ha`
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`09:24.21`	`Recluse`	`i'm only halfway through coffee pot #1...`
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`09:25.33`	`Roath`	`is there any way to hide that irritating bar on top of the new combat log? i find it kind of irritating that i cant hide it`
`09:25.59`	`cladhaire`	`Anyone have contact info for xbeeps?`
`09:26.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: that mod already exists, its called /run GetMoney = function() return 10000 end`
`09:26.13`	`cladhaire`	`we need to get him to use spell ids in LibHealComm instead of spell names`
`09:26.15`	`cladhaire`	`for the win!`
`09:26.25`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: But we need a pretty interface for it`
`09:27.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`and it would probably taint the entire default ui`
`09:27.32`	`Orionshock`	`cladhaire: that would be hot`
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`09:27.44`	`FinalX`	`10:18:07 < xyu> we'll have our glory again, someday.`
`09:27.48`	`FinalX`	`You do have your glory...`
`09:27.54`	`FinalX`	`It's called Ritual of Refreshment.`
`09:27.58`	`FinalX`	`runs`
`09:28.38`	`kd3`	`roath; not yet. the combat log is a very temporary thing. the real UI's coming soonish`
`09:28.52`	`cladhaire`	`Orionshock: then do my bidding and hunt him down!`
`09:28.56`	`Roath`	`aah, thought as much :P`
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`09:29.19`	`kd3`	`though hopefully some of the devel/debug stuff that's exposed now will survive the transition`
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`09:29.32`	`kd3`	`"right-click -> hide events like this?" is <3`
`09:29.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`what debug stuff?`
`09:29.35`	`Orionshock`	`i love you cladhaire but not that much :D`
`09:29.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`those are ment to be there i think`
`09:29.44`	`cladhaire`	`well snot just for me :P`
`09:29.46`	`Orionshock`	`tho he's rather active on the forums`
`09:29.57`	`cladhaire`	`kd3: I think you'll see that survive`
`09:30.12`	`cladhaire`	`hopefully`
`09:32.04`	`Orionshock`	`any news as to if ace3 will be putting in config windows to blizzard's thing-a-ma-jig?`
`09:32.47`	`Xinhuan`	`you can do it`
`09:32.49`	`Xinhuan`	`already`
`09:32.57`	`Orionshock`	`well ya, i know`
`09:33.00`	`Xinhuan`	`via a call to acedialog's add to blizz frames call`
`09:33.03`	`nevcairiel`	`Orionshock: yes thats being worked on`
`09:33.07`	`Nargiddley`	`I haven't checked it in Xinhuan`
`09:33.13`	`Xinhuan`	`ah`
`09:33.16`	`Xinhuan`	`i thought you have`
`09:33.30`	`Nargiddley`	`putting things in there triggered an AceGUI bug which I have to sort out first`
`09:33.31`	`nevcairiel`	`altho we're hoping for blizzy to change some stuff on the blizzy options dialog`
`09:33.38`	`Orionshock`	`IMO, it should be done on a per addon basis, but in the standalone it should be automagic`
`09:33.41`	`nevcairiel`	`like, make it wider`
`09:33.54`	`Xinhuan`	`it won't be automagic`
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`09:34.16`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock, it will NEVER be automagic`
`09:34.16`	`Roath`	`blizz should just make it resizeable, similar to rock and waterfall`
`09:34.20`	`Orionshock`	`well in the standalone version of ace3, make it auto-magic :D`
`09:34.26`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock, never`
`09:34.34`	`Nargiddley`	`have you seen how small the frame is ?`
`09:34.35`	`Orionshock`	`awwe :(`
`09:34.43`	`Roath`	`its tiny`
`09:34.47`	`Nargiddley`	`tree + 1 column of controls doesnt fit`
`09:34.51`	`Orionshock`	`ya Nargiddley i've seen it, it's Crap-Tastic!`
`09:34.55`	`nevcairiel`	`its good for simple addons that need like 3 options`
`09:34.56`	`Nargiddley`	`so it can never be automatic`
`09:36.20`	`Recluse`	`ok, so essentially create a basic xml file with a frame named my addon's name w/onload script to call my addon's :OnLoad()?`
`09:36.22`	`Orionshock`	`... 3 option addons == use dewdrop and fubar :P`
`09:36.32`	`Orionshock`	`keep the bloat classic :D`
`09:37.08`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: Why do you need the OnLoad handler?`
`09:37.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`add a panel with 1 button that does the exact same thing as /ace3`
`09:37.14`	`Grum`	`why do you need xml?`
`09:37.29`	`Nargiddley`	`add a panel with a button for each addon`
`09:37.34`	`Nargiddley`	`is what i'm planning to do`
`09:37.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`scrollable frame?`
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`09:38.03`	`Nargiddley`	`i guess`
`09:38.07`	`Orionshock`	`eww, will it close blizzy's window and then reOpen it when the AceConfig's closes?`
`09:38.20`	`Nargiddley`	`why would it close it ?`
`09:38.40`	`Recluse`	`Kivin: well, there must be some sort of entry point for execution, whether i name it :onload, :oninit, :starthere... tried to just call it at the bottom of the script, but it doesn't like that`
`09:38.48`	`Orionshock`	`keep things uncluttered on screen, that and the ace window has weird transparancy and layer'ing problems`
`09:39.04`	`Grum`	`lolkek seems Tem was having a bad day ><`
`09:39.18`	`nevcairiel`	`actually, he had a good day now`
`09:39.31`	`Tem\|AFK`	`well, it was kinda crappy for a while`
`09:39.35`	`Tem\|AFK`	`but then it got better`
`09:39.36`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: Entry point is the first line of your lua file. Why do you need OnLoad overhead?`
`09:39.43`	`Tem\|AFK`	`my friend's car got towed for no reason`
`09:39.47`	`Tem\|AFK`	`and I rode with him`
`09:39.50`	`Tem\|AFK`	`but meh`
`09:39.54`	`Grum`	`there is always a reason`
`09:39.58`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: What are you wanting to do in <OnLoad>?`
`09:40.03`	`Grum`	`the tower prolly felt like towing`
`09:40.23`	`CIA-12`	`03sayclub * r61261 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-koKR.lua:`
`09:40.23`	`CIA-12`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`09:40.23`	`CIA-12`	`- update koKR`
`09:41.20`	`Orionshock`	`clad\| the real question imo is what's faster, a table lookup into a lib or a blizzy api call?`
`09:41.37`	`clad\|shower`	`faster, the table lookup`
`09:41.40`	`clad\|shower`	`why would you need an API call?`
`09:41.51`	`Orionshock`	`for spell information`
`09:41.58`	`Orionshock`	`wrt libHealcomm`
`09:42.00`	`Recluse`	`Kivin: well, I suppose I could just drop it all in a do..end loop at the end instead of having :onload. only thing that i found that wanted to be in :onload was a :RegisterEvent() call`
`09:42.13`	`clad\|shower`	`Orionshock: Just keep a database of spellid -> heal info mappings`
`09:42.19`	`Kivin`	`just regsiter your addon's events in :OnInitialize`
`09:42.26`	`clad\|shower`	`Orionshock: there's no api call involved`
`09:42.36`	`clad\|shower`	`you get the spell id in the combat log message for spellcast start`
`09:42.40`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:42.42`	`clad\|shower`	`so i'm not sure what you mean`
`09:43.16`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:43.56`	`clad\|shower`	`hehe :P`
`09:44.54`	`CIA-12`	`03nargiddley 07RC1 * r61262 10Ace3/ (4 files in 3 dirs):`
`09:44.54`	`CIA-12`	`Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Add :AddToBlizzardOptions(appName, name), this will add the specified config to the Blizzard Options pane new in 2.4. This will only be available if running on the 2.4 ptr`
`09:44.54`	`CIA-12`	`AceGUI: Fix a couple of layout bugs causing the width of groups to be wrong`
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`09:45.17`	`dafire`	`good morning everybody :)`
`09:45.58`	`Julith`	`clad: suggest it in his thread for LibHealComm, he checks it very regulary`
`09:46.35`	`Recluse`	`Kivin: cool, that did it (i think, looks fine in-game) :oninitialize registerevent [[code]] do :setupfuncs end`
`09:46.56`	`dafire`	`since I don't have a toon transfered to the testserver can anyone give me an interesting 2.4 combat log from a run in an instance perhaps ? .)`
`09:47.47`	`mitch0`	`let's hope damagemeters won't be updated... the water elemental issue must still be handled by cooperating addons :(`
`09:47.48`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: OnInitialize is the same as the ADDON_LOADED event firing for your addon.`
`09:47.52`	`Killmore`	`dafire: I have a log`
`09:47.58`	`Killmore`	`2sec`
`09:48.07`	`dafire`	`cool thanks :)`
`09:48.47`	`dafire`	`I think a small library would be handy which announces own pets/totems on the raid addon channel when they first occure`
`09:48.57`	`Killmore`	`its only 20min :(`
`09:49.01`	`Killmore`	`I dont understand`
`09:49.10`	`Killmore`	`maybe a disconnect of a log off`
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`09:49.20`	`Killmore`	`It was a sunwell + kalecgos log`
`09:49.30`	`Killmore`	`and now its only a 20min raid of trash`
`09:49.33`	`Killmore`	`still want it ?`
`09:49.37`	`dafire`	`I wished I could get a toon transfered ;9`
`09:49.42`	`dafire`	`yes .. better then nothing ;)`
`09:52.57`	`CIA-12`	`03ggcall * r61263 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.Locales.zhCN.lua WhoDrop.toc):`
`09:52.57`	`CIA-12`	`WhoDrop`
`09:52.57`	`CIA-12`	`- update zhCN file`
`09:52.57`	`CIA-12`	`- update toc file`
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`09:56.39`	`Daemona`	`hmmm strange, closetgnome is putting on mount gear though its on standby ?!`
`09:57.31`	`dafire`	`closetgnome don't change your gear when you mount .. that's another addon which calls functions in closetgnome :)`
`09:58.13`	`mitch0`	`cg_switcher or somesush (at least that's the one I use)`
`09:59.03`	`Recluse`	`Kivin: its just that everything on wowwiki says "register for events in :onload" lol`
`09:59.21`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: wowwiki wasn't written by ace addon authors for ace addon authors`
`09:59.28`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`09:59.45`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61264 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-2.0: Add druid module. Not tested.`
`10:00.09`	`Recluse`	`Kivin: but their way is viable using xml loading?`
`10:00.18`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: yes`
`10:00.35`	`Recluse`	`=3 i see`
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`10:01.14`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61265 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-2.0: Commas are important`
`10:03.13`	`Daemona`	`hmmm closetgnome_mount did it @ mitch0 but nonetheless shouldnt a plugin be able to do shit if the main addon is on standby`
`10:03.46`	`mitch0`	`daemona: subjective...`
`10:04.21`	`Daemona`	`uh no, if i tell closetgnome to don't move i expect it to not switch my gear on mounting even though i got a pkugin to do so`
`10:04.47`	`dafire`	`fill a bug for the plugin ;)`
`10:05.39`	`mitch0`	`or just turn off all closetgnome plugins ;)`
`10:07.07`	`Fin`	`what do you want to trust, logic or empirical evidence`
`10:07.10`	`Fin`	`take your pick`
`10:07.30`	`Lukian`	`Antiarc, commas are important! mmkay? :D`
`10:08.34`	`Antiarc`	`Yay for dual-core processors`
`10:08.38`	`Antiarc`	`I have two copies of WoW running`
`10:08.41`	`Antiarc`	`So I can test taunts :D`
`10:08.49`	`neenee`	`You can do that without duo-core`
`10:08.50`	`Antiarc`	`And both are smooth`
`10:08.57`	`Antiarc`	`I know, but it'll be choppy as hell :P`
`10:09.06`	`Kerafyrm`	`you should see it on a quad core with twin screens ;)`
`10:09.14`	`Kerafyrm`	`both up and running at the same time`
`10:09.17`	`Kerafyrm`	`still smooth`
`10:09.19`	`Antiarc`	`I'm getting 35 FPS in both instances at 1920x1200`
`10:09.22`	`Antiarc`	`Which is no mean feat!`
`10:09.28`	`Fin`	`oh YEAH well YOU should see it on TWENTY CORE with MEGA KINOSCREENS`
`10:09.31`	`Fin`	`also YOUR MUM`
`10:09.34`	`Kerafyrm`	`lol`
`10:09.38`	`Kerafyrm`	`i just bought a new phenom`
`10:09.40`	`Kerafyrm`	`<3`
`10:09.53`	`Kerafyrm`	`I wanna cluster a bunch of PS3's together and run wow.`
`10:09.56`	`Kerafyrm`	`j/k`
`10:10.11`	`Xinhuan`	`what Antiarc, you got char copies going?`
`10:10.24`	`Fin`	`I want a Phenom, shite as the name may be`
`10:10.29`	`Fin`	`I want Phenom`
`10:10.35`	`Fin`	`nope, that doesn't sound right either`
`10:10.39`	`Antiarc`	`Xinhuan: No, a guildie let me borrow his account`
`10:10.44`	`Antiarc`	`And he copied his priest/paladin`
`10:10.46`	`Xinhuan`	`dammit`
`10:10.51`	`Xinhuan`	`how did he copy it over`
`10:10.51`	`dafire`	`looking for interesting 2.4 combatlog .9`
`10:10.52`	`Antiarc`	`So I'm using that with my level 12 test priest`
`10:10.58`	`Kerafyrm`	`have they enabled copies yet?`
`10:11.29`	`dafire`	`I heard someone in our guild was able to start copy between 4 and 5 yesterday morning`
`10:11.42`	`Kerafyrm`	`thats when i got mine done`
`10:11.51`	`Kerafyrm`	`I sat refreshing every 20 or so until it dropped to 3 days`
`10:11.59`	`Kerafyrm`	`from then its checking on it every 5 min`
`10:12.04`	`Xinhuan`	`:o`
`10:12.08`	`Kerafyrm`	`(I work graveyards)`
`10:12.16`	`Kerafyrm`	`Once the queue opened, I got 5 toons in queue`
`10:12.24`	`Kerafyrm`	`next day all 5 were done.`
`10:12.34`	`nevcairiel`	`nice`
`10:12.38`	`dafire`	`now they changed that chars only get copied 12 hours a day so I guess it's even harder now`
`10:12.55`	`nevcairiel`	`probably always did that`
`10:13.00`	`nevcairiel`	`they just didnt tell anyone`
`10:13.07`	`nevcairiel`	`so it doesnt cause lag during primetime`
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`10:16.17`	`dafire`	`hmm... I think I read somewhere that the npcid (which is used by wowhead and other sides) is contained in the guid ?`
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`10:18.23`	`nevcairiel`	`dafire: yes it is`
`10:19.33`	`dafire`	`those bin2hex and hex2bin and bitwise php functions are damaging my brain .9`
`10:20.34`	`Orionshock`	`my question is how did we ever match that one up`
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`10:21.04`	`Orionshock`	`i thought the NPC id's for stuff on wowhead n' such where just sequential from first seen`
`10:21.09`	`nevcairiel`	`nah`
`10:21.15`	`nevcairiel`	`wowhead datamined the files`
`10:21.42`	`Orionshock`	`wdb`
`10:21.45`	`dafire`	`i once wrote a php class to decode .wdb files`
`10:21.46`	`kebinusan`	`damn antiarc 2x @ 1900x1200 what are you running for video cards`
`10:22.01`	`Antiarc`	`Geforce 7600GT`
`10:22.06`	`Antiarc`	`A little dated, but it does the trick :)`
`10:22.14`	`nevcairiel`	`only the one with focus will actually need to render`
`10:22.18`	`nevcairiel`	`the other one only uses cpu`
`10:22.23`	`Orionshock`	`i remember a blue saying, in jest, that no one has decoded the wdb files :D`
`10:22.26`	`Daemona`	`nevcairiel that theory is easily proven by looking at the source code of the copy page ;)`
`10:22.32`	`Elkano`	`~seen ackis`
`10:22.34`	`purl`	`ackis <n=ackis@S0106000ea64881e9.ed.shawcable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 67d 21h 28m 46s ago, saying: 'I was thinking of adding something to my add-on so when friends used it, it called them a sack of dump...'.`
`10:22.43`	`Daemona`	`"this feature is only active from 3am to 3pm" is there somewhere quoted ;)`
`10:22.51`	`nevcairiel`	`i've seen that`
`10:22.56`	`sica`	`I'm using DogTag in combination with CowTip to display the target of the unit im hoovering over with the mouse. I tried NameRealm#mouseovertarget:HostileColor but it is color in the hostility color of the mouseoverunit not the target`
`10:24.07`	`dafire`	`which is the official blizzard time zone ? :)`
`10:25.00`	`Kerafyrm`	`pst`
`10:25.04`	`pb_ee1`	`dafire: Paris time for wow EU servers`
`10:25.16`	`Kerafyrm`	`i would assume being that there hq is in california`
`10:25.22`	`dafire`	`yes that one is easy that's where i live :)`
`10:25.27`	`pb_ee1`	`;p`
`10:25.33`	`dafire`	`is that pdt ?`
`10:25.46`	`pb_ee1`	`hum?`
`10:25.47`	`Kerafyrm`	`pst/pdt`
`10:26.38`	`Killmore`	`dafire ?`
`10:26.58`	`dafire`	`ah Killmore thanks :)`
`10:31.19`	`Killmore`	`hope it will help for what your doing with`
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`11:59.55`	`*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com \| http://files.wowace.com/ \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org \| Ace3 in beta \| WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 \| Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it.`
`12:00.21`	xyu`	`priest always have a billion dkp because they have nothing to buy`
`12:00.56`	`Grum`	`there is one priest higher than me`
`12:01.06`	`Grum`	xyu`: thats not true btw
`12:02.16`	`Grum`	`all but one slots should be replaced in BT/MH :)`
`12:03.49`	`Baldor_work`	`sylvanaar_work; i believe there actually is something similar`
`12:03.54`	`Baldor_work`	`i completely forgot what though`
`12:03.55`	`Baldor_work`	`:>`
`12:04.39`	`sylvanaar_work`	`ah well npz`
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`12:11.01`	`CIA-12`	`03kunda * r61271 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2: deDE update`
`12:12.38`	xyu`	`any mages out there wanna hook me up w/ their pt3bar configs so i can be lazy? /woot`
`12:13.23`	`Grum`	`pt3bar? (whats that?)`
`12:13.33`	xyu`	`don't lie to me!`
`12:14.05`	`Grum`	`cry i didnt`
`12:14.29`	xyu`	`i do have a slight complaint about ptbar, when you use your last mana emerald charge, the icon stays highlighted (like you still have one left)`
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`12:14.40`	xyu`	`and so i'll spam click the button but to no avail!`
`12:15.32`	xyu`	`(it's autobar lite)`
`12:15.42`	`Grum`	`'yet another spawn' ?`
`12:15.54`	`Sonite`	`Hi! Im really intressed in how Wowwiki made their logo: http://www.wowwiki.com/images/a/a0/Logo-horiz-260px.png Any Suggestions? Fonts? etc. :)`
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`12:17.13`	xyu`	`Maybe photoshop or one of its kin.`
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`12:21.21`	`mitch0`	`sonite: it's created by gimp`
`12:21.56`	`mitch0`	`s/by/with/`
`12:22.36`	`Sonite`	`ok but what font`
`12:22.48`	`Sonite`	`im using photoshop`
`12:22.49`	`mitch0`	`I'll pass on that ;)`
`12:23.06`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro * r61272 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.lua: GatherMate_Sharing: fixed logic error`
`12:23.13`	`renchap`
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`12:27.04`	`Recluse`	`mebbe just have to re-:SetScript >.>`
`12:27.10`	`dafire`	`for all that are waiting.. the eu charcopy is accepting transfers right now`
`12:27.21`	`Grum`	`oe`
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`12:32.51`	`Recluse`	`hrm... obj:Hide() makes invisible, but it's 'still there' (preventing clicks on the resized frame behind it) maybe?`
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`12:33.55`	`JoshBorke`	`no`
`12:34.41`	`Recluse`	`k T_T, well, i'll keep investigating`
`12:37.09`	`Grum`	`Recluse: maybe you didnt hide the parent and that frame is still there?`
`12:37.22`	`Grum`	`and that frame is also enabled for mouse`
`12:41.52`	`Recluse`	`well, i have a frame (left drag, right "onmousedown") and a secure button inside it. on frame right click, it :hide()s on the button and frame:setheight() to frame minus button height (ala minimize), then should on a second right click restore size and :show() button. it hides fine but doesn't restore on the next click`
`12:44.11`	`JoshBorke`	`make sure you're not in combat`
`12:44.15`	`JoshBorke`	`pastey your coed`
`12:44.45`	`Recluse`	`hehe yeah, not in combat`
`12:49.04`	`KivinSan`	`Recluse: In a bar mod i'm working on, I :EnableMouse(false) all the secure buttons in order to make the frame behind them dragable. That way, they don't intercept mouse clicks`
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`12:52.43`	`Grum`	`Kivin: might be easier to draw another frame ontop of it?`
`12:52.51`	`Grum`	`and use that as a handler`
`12:53.21`	`Kivin`	`Grum: Perhaps, but I wanted the buttons to stop accepting keybindings as well`
`12:53.39`	`Kivin`	`so it wasn't really out of my way`
`12:53.45`	`Zariel`	`to remove a frame can you just do frame = nil?`
`12:53.58`	`Kivin`	`you can't delete frames`
`12:54.05`	`Grum`	`nope`
`12:54.09`	`Kivin`	`you can hide, them, remove their script handlers, unregister events`
`12:54.13`	`Grum`	`so if you make lots of em, make sure you recycle em properly`
`12:54.47`	`Kivin`	`that's a big todo i'm not really looking forward to... disposing and recycling buttons`
`12:54.58`	`Grum`	`howso?`
`12:55.04`	`Grum`	`its positively easy`
`12:55.18`	`Grum`	`look @ GatherHud/Routes/GatherMate how do it easily`
`12:55.24`	`Xinhuan`	`gaaaaah`
`12:55.27`	`Xinhuan`	`shit loot`
`12:55.30`	`Xinhuan`	`from archi again`
`12:56.27`	`Stanzilla`	`healing staff? :P`
`12:56.46`	`Xinhuan`	`more like dps bow that nobody wants`
`12:56.50`	`Xinhuan`	`and a healing offhand that got DEed`
`12:56.56`	`Stanzilla`	`:/`
`12:57.52`	`CIA-12`	`03kunda * r61273 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: added Sunwell Plateau and Magisters' Terrace`
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`13:01.43`	`Recluse`	`Kivinsan: enablemouse toggle didn't work either :p JoshBorke: http://recluse.pastey.net/82169 (keep in mind this is just trash code, learning how to work with frames, not a serious addon :p)`
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`13:03.52`	`Grum`	`Kivin: for example, like: http://ace.pastey.net/82171`
`13:03.59`	`Grum`	`its seriously kinda trivial`
`13:04.35`	`Kivin`	`Grum: all of my action buttons have ten different states that need to be programmed into them with SetAttributes. It's just a lot of annoying legwork`
`13:05.14`	xyu`	`You may now fight Prince Kael�thas and Lady Vashj without first killing all the other bosses in their respective dungeons.`
`13:05.20`	xyu`	`sweet, her robes will be mine!!`
`13:05.26`	xyu`	`if i dont get illidans first`
`13:05.52`	`JoshBorke`	`or the sunfire robes?`
`13:05.53`	`JoshBorke`	`;-)`
`13:05.54`	`Zariel`	`Right im making a quest log tracker, http://penguinwithm4a1.org/img/Fux_2.jpg, and would like some help with recylcing the frames to add / remove quests from the tracker`
`13:06.06`	`Grum`	`Zariel: kek http://ace.pastey.net/82171`
`13:06.11`	`Fin`	`The requested URL /img/Fux_2.jpg, was not found on this server.`
`13:06.28`	`Grum`	`i can see it`
`13:06.53`	`Fin`	`I'm just being funny, don't worry`
`13:07.08`	`Zariel`	`yes Grum i have that bit, sort of`
`13:07.09`	`Grum`	`~taserlart Fin`
`13:07.19`	`Grum`	`Zariel: nothing more you can do`
`13:07.30`	`Grum`	`and with questframes you wont ever have more than 25 orso`
`13:07.31`	xyu`	`man those sunfire robes are so impba`
`13:07.32`	`Zariel`	`http://penguinwithm4a1.org/svn/trunk/Fux/`
`13:07.46`	`Grum`	`we've done this with ~1300 frames without problem`
`13:07.52`	`mikma`	`fux you too Zariel`
`13:07.59`	`Zariel`	`fux you mimka`
`13:08.14`	`Zariel`	`:p`
`13:08.34`	`haste`	`fuxsake, stop the fuxing`
`13:08.58`	`Baldor_work`	`..`
`13:09.03`	`Baldor_work`	`fuxers`
`13:09.39`	`Zariel`	`haste: need fuxsake.net back imo`
`13:09.46`	`haste`	`yeh, going to fix that soon`
`13:09.56`	`haste`	`this week or next :p`
`13:10.01`	`Zariel`	`:>`
`13:10.24`	`Tifi`	`[2008/02/14 14:11:06-2567-x1]: Quartz-0.1.0.54971\Player\Player.lua:410: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil)`
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`13:10.34`	`Tifi`	`just starting za`
`13:10.37`	`Tifi`	`grr`
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`13:15.50`	xyu`	`Can someone help me w/ an acronym that is escaping me?`
`13:15.54`	xyu`	`"Ouch, yea a few of us were gonna use DMFB, but our GM kinda frowned on it, more like a do it if you really want."`
`13:15.57`	xyu`	`DMFB?`
`13:16.11`	`Xinhuan`	`Deadly Mods Fucking Boss?`
`13:16.16`	`Civrock`	`lol`
`13:16.27`	xyu`	`this was supposedly to escape teron gorefiends' chosing you as a ghost`
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`13:16.29`	`Xinhuan`	`aka a typo with the ordering of the letters`
`13:16.46`	`Xinhuan`	`he Deadly Fucking Boss Mods would be DFBM`
`13:17.31`	xyu`	`next line was "I might use it for Rage tonight just cause I was so angry bout Teron last night lol."`
`13:17.37`	xyu`	`i just can't thin of it.`
`13:17.38`	`Xinhuan`	`there's no escaping ghost :)`
`13:17.39`	xyu`	`(he is mage btw)`
`13:17.51`	xyu`	`OH`
`13:17.51`	`Xinhuan`	`if you log off, hearthstone, disconnect, etc, you will still generate the 4 ghosts ;p`
`13:17.52`	xyu`	`i got it`
`13:17.58`	xyu`	`Darkmoon faire buff ><`
`13:18.03`	xyu`	`whew that was going to tax me`
`13:18.07`	`Xinhuan`	`ROFL`
`13:18.11`	`Xinhuan`	`that's a tough one`
`13:18.14`	`Xinhuan`	`for a acrnym`
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`13:19.33`	`Grum`	`what kind of buff is it?`
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`13:19.38`	`Xinhuan`	`+1-10% damage`
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`13:21.03`	`Grum`	`kek, why would not need that on rage? :p`
`13:21.10`	`Grum`	`that is a lootdummy`
`13:21.31`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc ?`
`13:21.33`	`Grum`	`Rage, Winterpinata`
`13:25.12`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61274 10LibXML/ (. 1.0/ 1.0/LibXML-1.0.lua 1.0/LibXML-1.0.toc):`
`13:25.12`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
`13:25.12`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:25.12`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:25.12`	`krka`	`CIA-12: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.`
`13:25.26`	`Kivin`	`~lart CIA-12`
`13:25.26`	`purl`	`whips out a sword and chops CIA-12 in half`
`13:26.49`	`Grum`	`~lart purl`
`13:26.49`	`purl`	`takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays grum in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed`
`13:27.21`	`Kivin`	`xP`
`13:29.01`	`Xinhuan`	`o_O`
`13:29.19`	`Grum`	`<3`
`13:29.20`	`Orionshock`	`Kivin: be nice to CIA-12 , it's one of a few bots we have`
`13:29.25`	`Xinhuan`	`so LibXML is not a library, but it looks like one?`
`13:29.27`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan is a bot`
`13:29.38`	`Chompers`	`what if it hugged itsself?`
`13:29.53`	`Grum`	`it should get into an endless loop and take over the world`
`13:30.17`	`Orionshock`	`sag'`
`13:30.24`	`Xinhuan`	`damn`
`13:30.25`	`Orionshock`	`sag's fav is to kick it`
`13:30.31`	`CIA-12`	`ow`
`13:30.51`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61275 10LibXML/1.0/:`
`13:30.51`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
`13:30.51`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:30.58`	xyu`	`lol http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5927/blizzardlolkp9.jpg`
`13:30.59`	`Grum`	`meeeh!`
`13:31.02`	xyu`	`spirit i hate joo!`
`13:31.12`	`Grum`	`why call something LibXML O.o`
`13:31.14`	`Xinhuan`	`err LibStub should never be an external?`
`13:31.48`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61276 10LibXML/1.0/:`
`13:31.48`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
`13:31.48`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:31.59`	`Grum`	`again?`
`13:32.04`	`Grum`	`wth is that guy doing? :p`
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`13:32.24`	`Josh_Borke`	`Mok: do not make LibStub an external`
`13:32.37`	`Xinhuan`	`hi mok, libstub should never be an external, include the file manually`
`13:32.51`	`Orionshock`	`lol, i use it as an external, tho i use tag`
`13:33.09`	`Xinhuan`	`and LibXML is not a library, so it shouldn't start with "Lib :)"`
`13:33.14`	`Xinhuan`	`"Lib" :)`
`13:33.24`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: technically it is`
`13:33.36`	`Orionshock`	`it dosn't do anything on it's own, xpt a utility function`
`13:33.50`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61277 10LibXML/1.0/:`
`13:33.50`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
`13:33.50`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:33.52`	`Xinhuan`	`you can't create XML in game`
`13:33.59`	`Orionshock`	`it's not`
`13:34.05`	`Orionshock`	`it's creating out of game XML`
`13:34.20`	`Xinhuan`	`it has a TOC`
`13:34.27`	`Xinhuan`	`which implies it is an addon meant to run ingame`
`13:34.38`	`Xinhuan`	`rather than an out of game lua script`
`13:34.42`	`dafire`	`why can't you create xml ingame ?`
`13:34.47`	`Orionshock`	`right... look at the code, it's ment to create out of game xml from a table`
`13:34.56`	`Orionshock`	`such as exporting a DKP string`
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`13:35.16`	`Xinhuan`	`that's what i meant - its not a library, its a addon in its own right`
`13:35.34`	`Xinhuan`	`nvm`
`13:35.36`	`dafire`	`it's something you want to use in an addon which exports data`
`13:35.41`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
`13:35.44`	`Xinhuan`	`i think i get it now`
`13:35.58`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61278 10LibXML/1.0/:`
`13:35.58`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
`13:35.58`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:36.01`	`Stanzilla`	`wth`
`13:36.04`	`Kivin`	`o_o`
`13:36.06`	`Grum`	`erm`
`13:36.09`	`dafire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:36.11`	`Grum`	`Mok, that is push number 4`
`13:36.13`	`Grum`	`without a change`
`13:36.19`	`Kivin`	`~lart Mok`
`13:36.19`	`purl`	`beats the living hamstercrap out of Mok`
`13:36.28`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't think SVN allows you to commit something that didn't change?`
`13:36.51`	`dafire`	`guess he is poking around with properties`
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`13:37.07`	`Stanzilla`	`now he switched to tags`
`13:37.09`	`Grum`	`properties would also show up`
`13:37.18`	`Stanzilla`	`they do grum`
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`13:37.23`	`Stanzilla`	`he switched from trunk to tags`
`13:37.30`	`Stanzilla`	`for LibStub`
`13:38.08`	`Grum`	`http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/LibXML <-- that shows nothing`
`13:38.35`	`Orionshock`	`Grum: that's because fish fails at showing prop changes`
`13:39.14`	`Mok`	`sry, i was a bit confused with externals ^^^`
`13:39.15`	`Stanzilla`	`Grum: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/LibXML/1.0/`
`13:39.17`	`Orionshock`	`they've all been directory edits`
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`13:39.30`	`Stanzilla`	`Directory Properties on the left hand side`
`13:40.05`	`Xinhuan`	`fish sucks ~_~`
`13:40.24`	`Grum`	`yeah indeed`
`13:40.28`	`Grum`	`but what is better?`
`13:40.41`	`Xinhuan`	`your own svn client ;p`
`13:40.42`	`Orionshock`	`Mok: just remember not to dep / opt dep to lib stub, that will defiantly get you flamed`
`13:41.24`	`Mok`	`xinhuan, i wrapped it as a libstub library. do u think its the wrong approach`
`13:41.33`	`Xinhuan`	`no, i think its fine`
`13:41.52`	`Xinhuan`	`however, you need to set svn properties on that file`
`13:42.00`	`Xinhuan`	`to get the proper revsion number i think`
`13:42.07`	`Mok`	`yeah right`
`13:42.11`	`Orionshock`	`auto props ftw`
`13:42.19`	`Xinhuan`	`its showing like revision 1`
`13:42.22`	`Xinhuan`	`at the moment`
`13:42.38`	`Mok`	`everytime i set up a new addon i need a hundred commits to setup all the proerties -.-`
`13:43.13`	`Xinhuan`	`however, you should document the library`
`13:43.19`	`Mok`	`i will`
`13:43.20`	`Xinhuan`	`or comment the code or something`
`13:43.24`	`dafire`	`i like that svn browser: http://projects.wh.techno-weenie.net/changesets/3073`
`13:43.24`	`Xinhuan`	`not sure how its used`
`13:43.33`	`Grum`	`Mok: you can bunch them up ^^`
`13:43.49`	`Xinhuan`	`i just commit everything in 1 commit ;p`
`13:44.35`	`Grum`	`at least document the code :)`
`13:45.10`	`Grum`	`you are using a magic '_XML_NAME' key`
`13:45.24`	`Ozguli`	`isn't hunter FD a spell?`
`13:45.30`	`dafire`	`hmm... sqlite is really fast ... I didn't thought it would outplay mysql .)`
`13:45.38`	`Grum`	`Ozguli: it might be considered an aura?`
`13:45.43`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro * r61279 10GatherMate_Sharing/ (GatherMate_Sharing.lua Locales/GatherMate_Sharing-enUS.lua): GatherMate_Sharing: updated changes to trunk`
`13:45.44`	`Grum`	`dafire: it doesnt`
`13:45.51`	`Mok`	`yes yes i will, i just did an initial commit 5min ago :P`
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`13:46.02`	`dafire`	`on inserting many rows it does .)`
`13:46.03`	`Grum`	`Mok: most initial commits starts in branches`
`13:46.09`	`Ozguli`	`hmm.. the GAAAAH that drops all threat?`
`13:46.22`	`Grum`	`dafire: i havent got that good an experience with that tbh, but yeah its quite viabl`
`13:46.25`	`Mok`	`but i did not branch anything`
`13:46.31`	`Grum`	`Mok: its not needed`
`13:46.40`	`Grum`	`remember, anything you put in trunk is automaticly packaged`
`13:46.43`	`Ozguli`	`just thought of spell hit etc`
`13:46.54`	`Grum`	`so whatever you do, keep trunk stable (and therefor its best to start not in trunk)`
`13:47.25`	`dafire`	`grum: inserting 28108 rows in a transaction: myisam: 9.993 seconds, innodb: 30.780 seconds, sqlite: 2.81 seconds`
`13:48.04`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc ?`
`13:48.19`	`Grum`	`dafire: that is strange indeed`
`13:49.16`	`dafire`	`i think sqlite is putting the whole thing in memory until the commit.. looks like mysql don't do that .9`
`13:49.33`	`Orionshock`	`Mok: standard svn practices => Window`
`13:49.35`	`Orionshock`	`:D`
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`14:02.26`	`Lukian`	`Is Whitetooth here by another name?`
`14:02.43`	`Grum`	`whitetooth>*`
`14:03.04`	`Lukian`	`I just noticed RatingBuster doesn't support enh shaman's mental quickness talent`
`14:03.14`	`Lukian`	`"Show spelldmg from Strength" isn't an option`
`14:04.01`	`Grum`	`i know he is active on the EJ forums, maybe drop him a pm there?`
`14:04.06`	`kenlyric`	`is it maybe a bad talent?`
`14:04.14`	`kenlyric`	`he doesnn't support red-flagged talents :)`
`14:04.24`	`Kivin`	`It's a bare necessity talent`
`14:04.26`	`Grum`	`that is silly btw`
`14:04.28`	`kenlyric`	`(I just made that up, but it's a good idea)`
`14:04.36`	`Lukian`	`what Kivin said`
`14:04.56`	`Lukian`	`From what little I know, it's probably one of the quintessential enh shaman talents`
`14:05.08`	`Kivin`	`converts 30% of your attack power into spell dmg.`
`14:05.14`	`Kivin`	`which is an awfully big deal`
`14:05.22`	`kenlyric`	`then yeah, it probably should be in there.`
`14:05.37`	`Kivin`	`Lukian: have you made sure it doesn't get calculated in the stat summary?`
`14:05.50`	`Kivin`	`turn on spell > spell damage`
`14:06.01`	`Lukian`	`It does, but not in the summary after str and ap`
`14:06.05`	`Lukian`	`which is where I'd like to see it :D`
`14:06.18`	`kenlyric`	`does it have the option on the actual stat?`
`14:06.31`	`Kivin`	`kenlyric: that's what he's saying is missing`
`14:06.35`	`Kivin`	`str > show spell damage`
`14:06.36`	`Grum`	`MEHHHH! i never looked into RB properly so it seems`
`14:06.37`	`kenlyric`	`ah, ok`
`14:06.37`	`Grum`	`lol`
`14:06.41`	`Grum`	`'default gems ... <3'`
`14:07.04`	`kenlyric`	`Grum: it's great stuff. I probably display too much informations :)`
`14:07.04`	`Kivin`	`I wish rating buster supported ace db profiles properly`
`14:07.19`	`Lukian`	`yeah what weird oddity of a system is it using?`
`14:07.21`	`kenlyric`	`what would you use them for?`
`14:07.26`	`Lukian`	`Is it per character?`
`14:07.29`	`kenlyric`	`yes`
`14:07.32`	`Kivin`	`it's per char or per class, but it doesn't use the acedb profiles at all`
`14:07.49`	`kenlyric`	`it's one of the few mods I have where I don't see any reason for default profile, so I guess i've never worried about it.`
`14:08.12`	`Kivin`	`kenlyric: because i have to completely redo my settings from scratch when i change chars`
`14:08.41`	`kenlyric`	`yeah, that would be annoying if you had two of the same class.`
`14:09.04`	`kenlyric`	`I guess maybe some of the general layout options could be shared too`
`14:09.10`	`kenlyric`	`like showing gems, etc.`
`14:09.12`	`Kivin`	`Which I do. But still, I'd like to be able to copy things from one class to another and have it semi intelligently carry the values across`
`14:09.59`	`Kivin`	`and all that besides, it just bugs me that i can't see what profile it's set to`
`14:10.04`	`Kivin`	`makes me wonder where my settings are going`
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`14:11.17`	`CIA-12`	`03hedin * r61280 10WF3sec/ (WF3sec.toc core.lua): WF3sec: PTR 2.4 update`
`14:11.56`	`Grum`	`lolkek, he actually added the default gems in the last change he did`
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`14:12.15`	`Kivin`	`default gems... does that fill in empty gem slots or something?`
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`14:13.16`	`Recluse`	`rb has profiles....`
`14:13.41`	`kenlyric`	`maybe it fills in the gem slots best it can from the gems you have in the equipped piece.`
`14:13.51`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: It doesn't use them`
`14:14.12`	`Kivin`	`my RB has "Default" shown in acedb yet it has different settings for every one of my chars`
`14:14.37`	`kenlyric`	`wait, it works for me`
`14:14.44`	`Recluse`	`works for me too lol`
`14:14.48`	`Kivin`	`?`
`14:14.55`	`kenlyric`	`["sumIgnoreGems"] = true,`
`14:14.58`	`Camci`	`is there any addon that shows where there is viens and shit? :P`
`14:15.05`	`kenlyric`	`in the default profile, set for my hunter and priest`
`14:15.14`	`kenlyric`	`errr, works on my hunter and priest`
`14:15.18`	`Recluse`	`Camci: GatherMate?`
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`14:15.37`	`Camci`	`never tried that? what does it do?`
`14:15.45`	`kenlyric`	`it appears to use profiles for some settings and a "classes" group for others.`
`14:15.46`	`Kivin`	`shows "viens and shit"`
`14:16.01`	`Recluse`	`Camci: shows circles where nodes for herbs/ore/fish are`
`14:16.10`	`Recluse`	`or, could be :p`
`14:16.19`	`Camci`	`wowace?`
`14:16.23`	`Recluse`	`yep`
`14:16.26`	`Camci`	`thanks`
`14:17.31`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61281 10LibXML/1.0/LibXML-1.0.lua:`
`14:17.31`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
`14:17.31`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:17.41`	`kenlyric`	`kinvin: http://ace.pastey.net/82172 my SV for RB... you might see if yours is similar in layout... maybe it needs to be reset.`
`14:18.32`	`kenlyric`	`also, Kivin`
`14:18.33`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61282 10kgPanelsConfig/ (5 files in 2 dirs): kgPanelsConfig: added AceSerializer to externals`
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`14:18.59`	`Kivin`	`kenlyric: humour me: /echo RatingBuster:GetProfile()`
`14:19.56`	`kenlyric`	`class, class/Hunter`
`14:19.59`	`Kivin`	`hmm`
`14:20.14`	`Kivin`	`I show "Default", "Default" across all my chars. Yet I have separate settings in all my chars' ratingbuster configs`
`14:20.42`	`kenlyric`	`this profile setting is the default one RB comes with (or did about two weeks ago, when I re-did my UI`
`14:21.01`	`Kivin`	`dunno`
`14:21.19`	`Kivin`	`perhaps it has something to do with me configuring it through rock config, i dunno`
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`14:24.50`	`CIA-12`	`03jncl * r61283 10Skinner/AddonSkins/ (Combuctor.lua TipTac.lua): Skinner: Updated Combutor & TipTac skins`
`14:25.14`	`kenlyric`	`I wouldn't think so, I've used rock and waterfall config both.`
`14:25.48`	`Kivin`	`just dunon`
`14:25.49`	`Kivin`	`dunno*`
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`14:33.18`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61284 10LibXML/1.0/LibXML-1.0.lua:`
`14:33.18`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
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`14:35.51`	`CIA-12`	`03mok * r61285 10LibXML/1.0/LibXML-1.0.lua:`
`14:35.51`	`CIA-12`	`LibXML-1.0:`
`14:35.51`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`14:39.47`	`Zariel`	`Why isnt CallbackHandler-1.0 loading?`
`14:40.01`	`chexsum`	`because its noob`
`14:41.42`	`Zariel`	`i have <incluce file="Libs\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0.xml" /> in xml`
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`14:42.40`	`Recluse`	`was that a copy paste? -->include mispelled`
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`14:43.22`	`Zariel`	`yes`
`14:43.24`	`Recluse`	`misspelled(? :p)`
`14:43.46`	`Zariel`	`no`
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`14:44.38`	`Elcottleto`	`Hello guys sry i�m not a native englishspeaker, i need help with Quartz, with the new version from today i have bugs with the ace2.2locale and the console. thanks`
`14:45.05`	`Elcottleto`	`i have bugreport from buggrabber`
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`14:47.22`	`Grum`	`Elcottleto: paste the error on http://ace.pastey.net and link it so we (channel people) can take a look`
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`14:50.33`	`[SW]Dodge`	`if i use local test = myFunc() or "fail"; test contains the return value of myFunc() but if the return value is nil it contains "fail"? :)`
`14:51.06`	`Kivin`	`correct`
`14:51.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`nice =)`
`14:51.50`	`Grum`	`lua> function f() return 1,2 end; local test = f or "fail"; print(f)`
`14:51.51`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: function: 0x62e150`
`14:51.58`	`Grum`	`lua> function f() return 1,2 end; local test = f() or "fail"; print(f)`
`14:51.58`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: function: 0x62e150`
`14:52.05`	`Grum`	`lua> function f() return 1,2 end; local test = f() or "fail"; print(test)`
`14:52.05`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: 1`
`14:52.05`	`Grum`	`kek`
`14:52.17`	`Grum`	`lua> function f() return nil,2 end; local test = f() or "fail"; print(test)`
`14:52.17`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: fail`
`14:52.29`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lol thanks Grum :P`
`14:52.30`	`Grum`	`lua> function f() return false,2 end; local test = f() or "fail"; print(test)`
`14:52.30`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: fail`
`14:52.35`	`Grum`	`hmmm`
`14:53.01`	`[SW]Dodge`	`hm :D`
`14:53.17`	`Elcottleto`	`so now i�m back witch the error link from Quartz http://ace.pastey.net/82175`
`14:53.23`	`Mok`	`lua> function f() return 1,2 end; local test = f() or "fail"; print(f())`
`14:53.24`	`lua_bot`	`Mok: 1, 2`
`14:53.48`	`Mok`	`thats nice, didnt know of the bot`
`14:53.56`	`Grum`	`Quartz-0.1.0.54971\Focus\Focus.lua:557 <--- erm`
`14:54.01`	`Grum`	`what kind of directory did you unpack?`
`14:54.31`	`Grum`	`and you have a 'loose' Ace2 'addon' - did you mean to install without externals?`
`14:54.33`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Mok: my lua editor contains something like the bot, but i forget to use it all the time lol :(`
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`14:55.13`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61286 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: updated script loader to pass a frame name instead of 'this'`
`14:55.19`	`Grum`	`Elcottleto: hmmm it seems someone messed something up in the deDE translation`
`14:55.20`	`Elsia`	`heya`
`14:55.57`	`Grum`	`yeah they did`
`14:56.24`	`Elcottleto`	`i use wowaceupdater and update with externals`
`14:56.33`	`Stanzilla`	`http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/Quartz?cs=61250 < maybe this commit broke it`
`14:56.49`	`Grum`	`yeah that was the one`
`14:57.17`	`Recluse`	`D= "An action was blocked in combat because of taint from PitBull"`
`14:57.25`	`Stanzilla`	`I could fix deDE`
`14:57.26`	`Grum`	`Elcottleto: manually install the -60491 revision`
`14:57.42`	`Grum`	`Stanzilla: the problem is that all but enUS/enGB are broken`
`14:58.06`	`Stanzilla`	`fix it in deDE comment it out in the other ones?`
`14:58.20`	`Stanzilla`	`or use awesome google translations :P`
`14:58.32`	`Elcottleto`	`lol`
`14:58.38`	`Grum`	`can you change the deDE?`
`14:58.46`	`Grum`	i'll ``dummy out`` the other ones
`14:58.56`	`Stanzilla`	`yup`
`14:59.00`	`Grum`	`i'll just put the english text in :P`
`14:59.05`	`Stanzilla`	`hehe k`
`14:59.05`	`Grum`	`with TRANSLATEME after it ^^`
`14:59.11`	`Grum`	`nah`
`14:59.12`	`Grum`	`humz`
`14:59.15`	`Grum`	`i'll just comment em out orso`
`14:59.33`	`Elcottleto`	`i will test it shortly with this new deDE file`
`14:59.40`	`Elcottleto`	`thanks for help`
`15:01.28`	`Stanzilla`	`svn hangs :O`
`15:01.38`	`Grum`	`kek`
`15:01.43`	`Grum`	`i've got all other files i think`
`15:01.55`	`CIA-12`	`03stan * r61287 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-deDE.lua:`
`15:01.55`	`CIA-12`	`Quartz:`
`15:01.55`	`CIA-12`	`- fix deDE`
`15:02.02`	`Stanzilla`	`oh, there`
`15:02.59`	`Mok`	`if u have localization issues with deDE let me know :)`
`15:03.37`	`Stanzilla`	`< is german`
`15:04.01`	`Mok`	`kk, dito`
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`15:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`03grum * r61288 10Quartz/locale/ (Quartz-frFR.lua Quartz-zhCN.lua Quartz-zhTW.lua):`
`15:04.06`	`CIA-12`	`Quartz:`
`15:04.07`	`CIA-12`	`- Commented out the new lines in the locales that weren't translated yet. [".."] = true, for anything not enUS dies. (Thanks Elcottleto for reporting)`
`15:04.25`	`Grum`	`at least the addon loads again for everyone :)`
`15:05.14`	`Grum`	`15 minutes before people download it`
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`15:05.41`	`Grum`	`not 'too' shabby, only been broken for 16 hrs ^^`
`15:06.55`	`Daemona`	`uuuh stupid question ahead. how do i issue a jira topic for something that is not in the dropdowns?`
`15:07.05`	`Daemona`	`aka report a bug`
`15:07.39`	`Kivin`	`A bug in what?`
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`15:08.03`	`Recluse`	`ftw, found out what was wrong with my frame =3 silly logic typo >.>`
`15:08.39`	`Daemona`	`VanasKoS`
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`15:09.24`	`Kivin`	`Anyone know whom StickyFrames.lua belongs to? There's no credits in the Lua file.`
`15:09.36`	`Elcottleto`	`i have copy paste the file stanzilla but i think i have made somthing wrong, i have deleted the lua and then copy paste is that wrong`
`15:09.56`	`Stanzilla`	`maybe`
`15:10.07`	`Stanzilla`	`just replace the the 2 lines I changed`
`15:10.54`	`kagaro`	`ckknight: ping`
`15:10.59`	`Elcottleto`	`ok before i reinstall all addons`
`15:11.20`	`Stanzilla`	`Elcottleto: just wait 10 minutes and update quartz then`
`15:12.02`	`Elcottleto`	`ohh is CIA-12 a quartz writer`
`15:12.22`	`haste`	`CIA-12 is a bot`
`15:14.08`	`Elcottleto`	`quartz is my favorite addon, THANKS for all how help me (the europian noob in lua writing)`
`15:16.15`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro * r61289 10PitBull/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: PitBull: fixed invalid texture reference in visual heal`
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`15:20.23`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`kagaro did you have a chance to test visual heal on the ptr?`
`15:20.38`	`kagaro`	`no`
`15:20.52`	`kagaro`	`The fix i just put in was erroring on live`
`15:21.43`	`kagaro`	`hvent had time during the week to login to ptr, im gona try to get in this weekend and hop in a raid`
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`15:23.20`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`appreciated :)`
`15:24.19`	`Elcottleto`	`did anyone know were i get the older version of quartz from yesterday`
`15:25.44`	`Tifi`	`Grum, did you update deDE too?`
`15:26.00`	`Grum`	`Stanzilla did that just before`
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`15:26.07`	`Tifi`	`oh ok`
`15:26.14`	`Grum`	`[16:01:55] <CIA-12> stan * r61287 Quartz/locale/Quartz-deDE.lua:`
`15:26.14`	`Grum`	`[16:04:06] <CIA-12> grum * r61288 Quartz/locale/ (Quartz-frFR.lua Quartz-zhCN.lua Quartz-zhTW.lua):`
`15:26.28`	`Tifi`	`kk thx`
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`15:27.37`	`Elcottleto`	`ohh WOW very very fast work BIG HUG and thx`
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`15:29.48`	`Elcottleto`	`IT runs 100000 times thanks`
`15:30.00`	`Elcottleto`	`:-)`
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`15:31.21`	`chiper`	`lame! the Kael'thas mount drop is horde only`
`15:32.04`	`chiper`	`my gnome wants an ostrich dammit!`
`15:32.46`	`CIA-12`	`03wang * r61290 10PitBull/ (30 files in 29 dirs):`
`15:32.46`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`15:32.46`	`CIA-12`	`- zhCN update, based on version r61289, all typo had been rechecked`
`15:32.57`	`\|Pixel\|`	`16:31 < chiper> lame! the Kael'thas mount drop is horde only`
`15:32.59`	`\|Pixel\|`	`huh ? :)`
`15:33.08`	`chiper`	`http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/swiftwhitehawkstrider.jpg`
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`15:34.07`	`Tifi`	`working now, thanks grum&stan`
`15:34.29`	`Stanzilla`	`np`
`15:34.53`	`Kivin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:35.24`	`chiper`	`kivin: that makes a little sense, I imagine draneai wouldnt be able to use it either.`
`15:35.33`	`Elcottleto`	`yeah blizzard should be have in europe a support like wowace.com`
`15:35.37`	`chiper`	`break the poor birds legs`
`15:36.16`	`FinalX`	`well`
`15:36.22`	`FinalX`	`gnomes can't use it either else they'd eat it`
`15:36.31`	`chiper`	`bah`
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`15:36.46`	`chiper`	`I need to get me a talbuk. sick of the mechano-bird`
`15:36.55`	`FinalX`	`hehehe`
`15:37.03`	`FinalX`	`i liked my black war tiger a lot`
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`15:38.52`	`Elcottleto`	`i like my black swifttiger`
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`15:39.40`	`yasuo`	`hi`
`15:39.55`	`Elcottleto`	`hiho`
`15:39.56`	`yasuo`	`is tehre an addon wich is knows for kicking me out of the afk-status unwanted?`
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`15:40.07`	`yasuo`	`ups sorry fpr bad grammar`
`15:40.42`	`yasuo`	`lol many ppl sure want that i just want to go afk but getting non-afk agein and again`
`15:41.12`	`Tifi`	`there's an option for that`
`15:41.25`	`Elcottleto`	`you can set this i think in the Interface options`
`15:41.45`	`Tifi`	`uncheck 'automatically clear afk' or sth`
`15:42.04`	`yasuo`	`hm ok but i want to go not-afk when i move my char`
`15:42.05`	`Elcottleto`	`yes wrigth that�s it`
`15:42.26`	`yasuo`	`but im getting not-afk without doing anything`
`15:42.49`	`Tifi`	`disable stupid addons? :>`
`15:43.01`	`yasuo`	`too many dunno wich it is`
`15:43.11`	`Tifi`	`ok`
`15:43.34`	`neenee`	`right.`
`15:43.42`	`Tifi`	`so you have an addon that's un-afking you, but you don't know which one it is, so you want an addon that's afking you back`
`15:43.52`	`yasuo`	`thought someone here maybe knows the phenomen so i dont have to check every single addon`
`15:43.52`	`Tifi`	`did i get that right so far?`
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`15:44.07`	`yasuo`	`Tifi: lol no`
`15:44.08`	`Tifi`	`oh`
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`15:44.17`	`Tifi`	`oh ok sorry i misread =)`
`15:44.32`	`yasuo`	`well my screen looks like "you are afk\nyou are not afk anymore\nyou are afk\n...."`
`15:44.49`	`yasuo`	`\n=EOL`
`15:44.53`	`neenee`	`There's no addon that does that though.`
`15:45.10`	`neenee`	`Unless you're running something you shouldn't.`
`15:45.24`	`yasuo`	`alterac-bot? :D`
`15:45.30`	`yasuo`	`no dont think so`
`15:45.45`	`neenee`	`Are you sure it's an addon that's doing it?`
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`15:46.26`	`yasuo`	`hmm ok ill just uncheck the "[x]remove afk-status when moving" thing until i have just to test all addons and find the bad one`
`15:46.36`	`yasuo`	`neenee: what else could do it?`
`15:47.16`	`yasuo`	`hmmm maybe its gem because is synchronizes?`
`15:47.20`	`neenee`	`Well, I just don't see how an addon could do it.`
`15:47.23`	`neenee`	`Nope, not gem`
`15:47.27`	`yasuo`	`<xml blabla/>`
`15:47.44`	`yasuo`	`or groupcalendar`
`15:47.44`	`Elcottleto`	`hmm`
`15:48.33`	`yasuo`	`or nauticus i may deactivate all addon with hidden communication channels for testing but not today ^`
`15:48.35`	`neenee`	`You use both?`
`15:48.41`	`yasuo`	`yes`
`15:48.53`	`yasuo`	`gem>all but guild usese group calendar`
`15:49.03`	`neenee`	`Just disable half of your addons and keep disabling half until you have narrowed down the addon.`
`15:49.44`	`yasuo`	`yeah but takes time`
`15:49.56`	`neenee`	`Ofcourse, everything takes time. Like talking in here does :)`
`15:50.05`	`neenee`	`But, it's better than disabling them one by one.`
`15:50.08`	`Droolio`	`Nauticus will switch the afk / not afk stuff during its comms. but it doesn't change the afk timeout - you'll still get logged out after a while`
`15:50.08`	`yasuo`	`anyway thanks for your help, unchecking the checkbox will do it for me for now`
`15:50.19`	`neenee`	`oki.`
`15:50.41`	`yasuo`	`ok nauticus - its crap anyway`
`15:50.51`	`Droolio`	`thanks`
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`15:51.08`	`yasuo`	`sorry XD you're the author?`
`15:51.14`	`Droolio`	`:)`
`15:51.18`	`ckknight_`	`kagaro: pong`
`15:51.19`	`neenee`	`hehe`
`15:51.30`	`kagaro`	`ckknight_: I addeda fix to visual heal this morning`
`15:51.37`	`kagaro`	`in Pitbull`
`15:51.37`	`yasuo`	`sorry but it never works precise for me ^^`
`15:51.43`	`ckknight_`	`kagaro: good work`
`15:52.07`	`Droolio`	`yasuo: if you get more ppl on your server running it too (even a handful), then it will work tonnes better`
`15:52.26`	`Elcottleto`	`So 3 other bugs from me but they are not really bad 2 from cooldowntimers 2(probs with locale deDE) and one from Bartender3 http://ace.pastey.net/82178`
`15:53.09`	`yasuo`	`Droolio: well but imho it should better get no informtion than a bad one or tell me how old the data is (last sync ~2h = maybe useless)`
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`15:53.12`	`Droolio`	`it'll see a lot more use in the next expansion, since everyone spends their time in outlands these days`
`15:53.37`	`Droolio`	`yasuo: it will tell you how old the data is, when you press shift and have a tooltip open`
`15:53.44`	`yasuo`	`ok tahts true, everyone's porting to shat and flying to destination`
`15:54.06`	`Droolio`	`it's not about the sync time, it's about when ppl reboot their machines or how many times the data has been swapped that lends to its accuracy`
`15:54.40`	`Droolio`	`you can go on a boat/zep, two weeks later - without sync and a reboot - and the accuracy loses no more than a fraction of a second`
`15:54.41`	`yasuo`	`ok its definitively not nauticus cuz its deactivated atm ^^`
`15:54.54`	`Droolio`	`unfortunately it's when ppl reboot etc. that it drifts slightly :)`
`15:55.29`	`Droolio`	`completely deactivated? coz i think it still responds to comms... just in the background`
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`15:56.33`	`Droolio`	`i.e. the standby mode will just deactive all the processor-intensive stuff`
`15:56.33`	`yasuo`	`Droolio: so it saves the data to the hdd and recaltulates from that?`
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`15:56.53`	`Droolio`	`yea`
`15:57.11`	`yasuo`	`that cannot work well imho because computers builtin clocks are shitty`
`15:57.41`	`neenee`	`Er..`
`15:57.59`	`Droolio`	`it doesn't use the built-in clock`
`15:58.11`	`yasuo`	`after reboot it does ^`
`15:58.36`	`yasuo`	`is there soething like a server-tiem you could use?`
`15:58.42`	`Droolio`	`yes but it knows it was rebooted and will increase a counter that labels the said data less accurate`
`15:58.43`	`yasuo`	`server-time`
`15:59.23`	`[Liquidor]`	`Hahaha checkout the new fireball sound by mages in 2.4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFhHj9l9EaU ... schorch and pyro is also changed among others.`
`15:59.35`	`Droolio`	`data is ranked according to how many reboots and swaps it's gone through, so if it sees better data on the comms, it uses it`
`16:00.04`	`yasuo`	`ok so its just too less ppl using it`
`16:00.05`	`Droolio`	`server time has a resolution of one minute, not really accurate enough`
`16:00.10`	`Droolio`	`yup`
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`16:01.44`	`yasuo`	`lol one could install warcraft on a rootserver and let it join the realm so we have a nauticus-bot :D who pays the acount cost? ^^`
`16:01.50`	`Paradox`	`Parrot users: how can I split windfury into the 2 extra attacks that is? Parrot seems to combine them into one, yet still says 534534 Windfury (1 attack 1 crit) even though it's 2 hits :E`
`16:02.22`	`Droolio`	`yasuo: heh, well i had thought of that. or maybe putting a web-based thingy where u can cut and paste a string`
`16:02.47`	`Droolio`	`if you jump on several realms, you can in fact pick up better and better data. coz all the realms are synchronised wrt the transports`
`16:02.49`	`yasuo`	`well can wow-addons use http?`
`16:02.54`	`neenee`	`Isn't it one attack and one crit = two hits?`
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`16:02.55`	`FinalX`	`no`
`16:03.15`	`Paradox`	`I guess that makes sense neenee`
`16:03.24`	`Droolio`	`not http. you could manually paste a string into a web form and get back others' data in the form of a new string to paste back`
`16:03.26`	`Paradox`	`but still i'd like to split it so I can see how much each hit does`
`16:03.26`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61291 10Chinchilla/MoveButtons/MoveButtons.lua: Chinchilla_MoveButtons - get the initial position of the buttons in a saner fashion, allowing for enable/disable to look smoother.`
`16:03.54`	`Droolio`	`yasuo: if you can figure out the epoch... :)`
`16:04.07`	`yasuo`	`epoch?`
`16:04.08`	`Droolio`	`i.e. how the game works out the positions from a specific time, coz there must be an algorithm`
`16:04.18`	`neenee`	`Paradox: I'm not sure Parrot can do that, I think the combining is built in`
`16:04.43`	`Droolio`	`well i think there must be some sort of epoch or start time where the numbers are crunched between the current time and then work out a cycle and position`
`16:04.49`	`Paradox`	`it's 2 seperate hits in the combat log`
`16:04.54`	`Paradox`	`and it worked like that on SCT`
`16:04.59`	`Paradox`	`:( parrot is the one doing it wrong`
`16:06.04`	`pb_ee1`	`ckknight_, what is Chinchilla?`
`16:06.11`	`[Liquidor]`	`hehe nice drop eh? :P http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/Iamaocfan/Hawkmountnais.jpg`
`16:06.14`	`yasuo`	`Droolio: well you could also use the loop way by an external script to synchronize the var via webserver or so`
`16:06.25`	`Grum`	`pb_ee1: you could check it, its a 'Rocked' simpleMinimap (aboutish)`
`16:06.53`	`pb_ee1`	`i was actually typing that i was too lazy today to check the code by myself lol ;p`
`16:06.56`	`pb_ee1`	`nice to here that`
`16:07.15`	`Droolio`	`yasuo: potentially yea. it just gets a bit messy when everything has to be timestamped`
`16:07.21`	`yasuo`	`Droolio: does nauticus use shiproute_A to calculate the position of shiproute_B?`
`16:07.38`	`Droolio`	`nah the routes are totally independantly calculated`
`16:08.10`	`yasuo`	`maybe theres a continuity`
`16:08.48`	`Droolio`	`well i'm thinking if you could put two routes through a simultaneous equation, there could be a common epoch`
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`16:08.55`	`Droolio`	`i forgot how to do them tho :)`
`16:09.20`	`Droolio`	`each route potentially has two start points as well`
`16:09.28`	`Droolio`	`well, four`
`16:09.46`	`yasuo`	`and they are random?`
`16:09.47`	`Droolio`	`coz blizz might calculate the cycle from the beginning or end of a particular docking section`
`16:09.51`	`Elcottleto`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`16:12.41`	`CIA-12`	`03helium * r61292 10Quartz/ (Quartz.toc locale/Quartz-zhTW.lua):`
`16:12.41`	`CIA-12`	`Quartz:`
`16:12.41`	`CIA-12`	`- updated zhTW localization`
`16:12.48`	`Droolio`	`anyway, you can better if anyone reverse engineered how blizzard calculate the transport cycles, they will change it to random just to fuck us up... :)`
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`16:13.48`	`Paradox`	`>_< WAU keeps closing on it's own`
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`16:19.54`	`Recluse`	`Paradox: been having the same issue all day today :p`
`16:19.59`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61293 10Chinchilla/MoveButtons/MoveButtons.lua: Chinchilla_MoveButtons - add in a check to make sure that OnDragStop is only called after OnDragStart.`
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`16:20.20`	`Paradox`	`weird :)`
`16:21.27`	`Kivin`	`Anyone use FloTotemBars?`
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`16:23.58`	`EvilGrin`	`Paradox, I have the same problem :/`
`16:24.28`	`Paradox`	`does it update silently when it opens or anything?`
`16:24.40`	`Paradox`	`either an update broke it... maybe one of the Ads is bugging it out?`
`16:26.05`	`EvilGrin`	`It blows up loading the index`
`16:26.20`	`EvilGrin`	`AFAICT`
`16:26.34`	`sylvanaar_work`	`It is the ads. Install an Ad Blocker which functions as a transparent proxy.`
`16:26.43`	`EvilGrin`	`oof`
`16:27.15`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61294 10kgPanelsConfig/ (13 files in 2 dirs): kgPanelsConfig: added locale directories and stubs`
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`16:27.54`	`sylvanaar_work`	`for example - the one which comes with norton 360, and some of the other norton stuff is a transparent proxy which can remove just the ad from the webpages. the idea is that the ad blocker not be an addin to your webbrowser`
`16:28.06`	`kalahassi`	`is it possible that addoncode can crash wow? got a lot of #132-errors and when i disabled all of my addons it somehow worked again...`
`16:28.29`	`fenixguy[gre]`	`hmm anyone got problems with pitbull, too? it throws out errors like hell and doesnt display the bars properly`
`16:28.47`	`sylvanaar_work`	`all you people with WAU issues - where do you live`
`16:28.58`	`EvilGrin`	`UK`
`16:29.09`	`fenixguy[gre]`	`plus it doesnt save the layouts i import -.-`
`16:29.12`	`sylvanaar_work`	`so far noone in the US has the problem`
`16:29.22`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61295 10kgPanelsConfig/ (5 files): kgPanelsConfig: added locale stubs to helper files`
`16:29.31`	`EvilGrin`	`WAU ads are geolocational?`
`16:29.35`	`keiss`	`fails here too - Czech Republic`
`16:29.37`	`sylvanaar_work`	`of course`
`16:29.52`	`Droolio`	`i'm staring at a 'download curse client' ad atm - and it just crashed, about 20 seconds after`
`16:29.58`	`Droolio`	`i guess you have to be quick about updating`
`16:30.07`	`Droolio`	`i'm in the uk`
`16:31.02`	`sylvanaar_work`	`yeah, so far its never been observed in the US`
`16:31.46`	`durcyn`	Funkeh`: you still looking for sunwell combat logs?
`16:31.54`	Funkeh`	`always`
`16:32.10`	Funkeh`	`pm me any you got`
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`16:33.07`	`sylvanaar_work`	`it think SpyBot's Immunize feature might help in some cases also`
`16:33.22`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm does weapon skill matter for druid bear/cat form`
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`16:33.37`	`sylvanaar_work`	`it fills your hosts file up with fake addresses for common ad providers`
`16:33.42`	`sylvanaar_work`	`ok ttyl`
`16:33.49`	`durcyn`	`[Ammo]: just feral combat skill, but expertise is still valid`
`16:34.31`	`[Ammo]`	`so I have to practice my weapons in human form`
`16:34.38`	`[Ammo]`	`that kinda sucks`
`16:34.41`	`SunTsu`	`[Ammo]: No`
`16:35.00`	`SunTsu`	`[Ammo]: You don't have to`
`16:35.33`	`[Ammo]`	`ok`
`16:35.38`	`[Ammo]`	`was afraid I had to :)`
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`16:46.22`	`dieck`	`hi! can anyone tell me how to switch of showing outgoing whispers in my chatframe when using SendChatMessage(whisper)?`
`16:47.42`	`dylanm_`	`Guessing you'd have to hook AddMessage and just silence it.`
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`16:48.04`	`Kreiger`	`hey guys. is there an addon that will let me see the bank or inventories of my alts?`
`16:48.41`	`CrazyBenny`	`Kreiger: OneView`
`16:48.50`	`Grum`	`Kreiger: ArkInventory, CharacterInfo, Bagnon_Forever, OneView .. name em :)`
`16:48.55`	`Kreiger`	`thanks. would that, by chance, also show the guild banks of alts>?`
`16:49.02`	`Kreiger`	`I made a guild for my alt..`
`16:49.02`	`Kreiger`	`>_>`
`16:49.15`	`Grum`	`i havent seen that one incorporated`
`16:49.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`BankItems does that, IIRC`
`16:49.35`	`Kreiger`	`i'll have to check that one out then. thanks Gnar`
`16:51.39`	`Recluse`	`someone had an ace'd ATSW, didn't they?`
`16:51.46`	`dylanm_`	`There's Skillet.`
`16:51.56`	`dylanm_`	`Which seems to be similar, yes.`
`16:52.23`	`dieck`	`ls`
`16:52.27`	`dieck`	`fc :)`
`16:52.32`	`Recluse`	`hmm`
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`17:02.05`	`Fin`	`does anyone know of an alterntive to MobMap?`
`17:03.04`	`Grum`	`seems not`
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`17:05.38`	`Kalman\|`	`Hm. Does anyone know of a reference for the 2.4 /combatlog format?`
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`17:06.17`	`Fin`	`the best reference is in the forums as part of the 2.4 changes thread, as far as I know`
`17:06.22`	`Fin`	`I do not know far, though`
`17:07.35`	`ckknight`	`oh noes`
`17:07.37`	`Kalman\|`	`2.4 thread only seems to address the ingame stuff; I'm actually looking for field ordering info. Oh well, do it the hard way.`
`17:09.17`	`Recluse`	`dylanm_: that's what i was lookin for,t y`
`17:10.11`	`Fin`	`"the ingame stuff", and "field ordering info" - que?`
`17:10.13`	`Killmore`	`ckknight!`
`17:10.36`	`ckknight`	`hey Killmore`
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`17:11.44`	`Kalman\|`	`Fin: I mean the output text file from /combatlog; I'm writing some MATLAB parsing stuff for the 2.4 version.`
`17:12.02`	`Kalman\|`	`What field appears in what order is a somewhat useful piece of info. :)`
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`17:12.16`	`Fin`	`Kalman\|: ahhh`
`17:12.20`	`Fin`	`right, gotcha now`
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`17:13.48`	`Lukian`	`Kalman\|, this was linked earlier, I dunno if it's relevant http://ace.pastey.net/82017`
`17:14.43`	`Kalman\|`	`It's helpful, thanks. :)`
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`17:15.23`	`kagaro`	`anyone on the ptr right now ?`
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`17:28.50`	`CIA-12`	`BunchOfBars:`
`17:28.51`	`CIA-12`	`- Adjusted TOC's.`
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`17:35.54`	`Killmore`	`ckknight: whats happen with Parrot with the PTR ? :(`
`17:36.01`	`ckknight`	`it doesn't work yet`
`17:36.06`	`ckknight`	`don't expect it to for a little while`
`17:36.06`	`Killmore`	`fix yet ! :P`
`17:36.22`	`Killmore`	`i mean, fix it ! :P`
`17:36.26`	`ckknight`	`what do I get out of fixing it now rather than later?`
`17:36.27`	`durcyn`	`combat log parsing just got a lot more interesting Killmore, give him some time`
`17:36.43`	`Fin`	`NEIN!`
`17:36.51`	`Fin`	`TIME IST FUR DER SCHLACKERS!`
`17:37.12`	`Megalon`	`was is denn ein schlacker?`
`17:37.14`	`Fin`	`dere will be NICHTEN TEIMEN!`
`17:37.34`	`Kalroth`	`Fin, your german is utter shit :P`
`17:37.37`	`Elsia`	`schlack = remainder of the cementing process`
`17:37.38`	`Killmore`	`durcyn: yeah I know, all my respect to all the programmers who need to recreate a very big part of their addon`
`17:37.40`	`chiper`	`lol`
`17:38.10`	`Fin`	`Kalroth: SILENCE!`
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`17:39.16`	`SunTsu`	`Fin: Your german is great. I still don't know what it meant, but it is great`
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`17:40.06`	`Elsia`	`we can blame charlie chaplin for fake german and move on ;)`
`17:40.13`	`Elsia`	`STONK!`
`17:40.23`	`sb_`	`ckknight: screens? :p`
`17:40.30`	`ckknight`	`sb_: of?`
`17:40.34`	`Killmore`	`Elsia: doing good with recount with ptr ?`
`17:40.48`	`Elsia`	`kill: as good as one can do who doesn't have any character above lvl 7 :P`
`17:40.55`	`sb_`	`ckknight: minimap thingie`
`17:41.18`	`Elsia`	`combat log parsing works, but there seems to be a damage tracking issue, but I don't have good chars to test it myself`
`17:41.35`	`Elsia`	`also I'm using filter flags now and GUID/spellId use is prepared`
`17:41.52`	`ckknight`	`sb_: check the form thread`
`17:42.03`	`Elsia`	`too bad roster lib isn't totally obsolete because filter flags to unitID isn't a complete mapping... some info is missing`
`17:42.08`	`ckknight`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11384`
`17:42.11`	`sb_`	`ty`
`17:42.24`	`Killmore`	`Elsia: I tried your 0.1 version and it was working great (I thing) except 1 or 2 spamming crap about EXTRA_KILL or something like that and some function like "Death" was not working`
`17:42.33`	`Killmore`	`fixed in 0.3 ?`
`17:42.39`	`Elsia`	`still checking how exactly to use spellId to make babble-spell obsolete, at least for core functionality.`
`17:42.53`	`Elsia`	`0.3 is much better than 0.1`
`17:43.20`	`Elsia`	`the SVN has an even more recent version, but haven't gotten around to zip it up yetp`
`17:43.30`	`Killmore`	`oh`
`17:43.56`	`cncfanatics`	`bah, I should get coding toon, but I cba`
`17:44.02`	`cncfanatics`	`2.4 doesn't break anything but combatlog right?`
`17:44.18`	`Elsia`	`haven't noticed it breaking anything else yet...`
`17:44.18`	`Killmore`	`Elsia: we raid sunwell tonight and I will ask some guildies to try it`
`17:44.33`	`cncfanatics`	`Killmore: giev :(`
`17:44.35`	`Elsia`	`kill: that'd be good, check for missing damage and let me know how that happened`
`17:44.56`	`Elsia`	`hmm actually let me zip up my last version`
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`17:45.20`	`Killmore`	`its hard to know if Recount miss dmg since I dont know how to know it :P`
`17:45.55`	`Fin`	`search for the answer in your heart of hearts: only then will you know the answer`
`17:46.39`	`Elsia`	`well basically you'll see damage text, but if the bar doesn't move it missed something ;)`
`17:46.39`	`Killmore`	`Elsia: Do you thing doing battleground/arena its a good way to track it ? since you can see the "wow official" dmg meter/healing meter ?`
`17:47.23`	`Elsia`	`any place is good really. arena testing might be good actually because I don't know if my filter use will categorize player source correctly, tho I hope it will`
`17:47.48`	`Elsia`	`recount ptr-2.4-0.4: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10598/download/46768/`
`17:47.56`	`Killmore`	`oh nice`
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`17:49.33`	`Chompers`	`It'll nibble your hay pellets.`
`17:49.43`	`Chompers`	`it'll nibble them indeed`
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`17:51.00`	`ckknight`	`quite.`
`17:51.17`	`ckknight`	`oh noes, Kaelten'll see me in here slacking off`
`17:51.27`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`17:52.30`	`Kody-`	`it's fine, he slacks in here too!`
`17:52.31`	`Elsia`	`kill: PM doesn't seem to work for me. getting error messages, which ability did you use?`
`17:53.05`	`Chompers`	`slacking off is okay, slacking off without pants... oh no we can't have that`
`17:53.15`	`Zenom`	`is the http://files.wowace.com the url a script should use to locate ace addons?`
`17:53.22`	`Zenom`	`or is there a non-html version somewhere`
`17:53.39`	`ckknight`	`Chompers: that is an issue I've had here, the wearing of the pants`
`17:53.45`	`ckknight`	`inhibits my overall hacking ability`
`17:54.34`	`Killmore`	`elsia`
`17:54.40`	`Elsia`	`yep?`
`17:54.48`	`Chompers`	`ckk, with your minimap`
`17:54.55`	`ckknight`	`yes?`
`17:54.57`	`Chompers`	`perhaps have a build in button menu`
`17:55.06`	`Chompers`	`so you click it, and all the minimap buttons drop down`
`17:55.19`	`ckknight`	`button menu?`
`17:55.25`	`Chompers`	`so the people without fubar have a way of ordering their buttons`
`17:55.36`	`ckknight`	`oh, for FuBar plugins?`
`17:55.38`	`ckknight`	`hrm...`
`17:55.40`	`Chompers`	`yeah, those`
`17:55.57`	`kagaro`	`anyone curently logged into the ptr?`
`17:56.11`	`ckknight`	`Chompers: but you can just drag those around`
`17:56.34`	`Chompers`	`i've seen people with about 20 buttons, it looks really messy`
`17:56.49`	`ckknight`	`yea, but how can that really be helped?`
`17:56.58`	`ckknight`	`I mean, that's why I made RockConfig-1.0 the way it is`
`17:57.10`	`ckknight`	`so that people'd get away from having a bajillion minimap buttons`
`17:57.11`	`Zhinjio`	`is fish.wowace gone? I can't seem to reach it atm`
`17:58.34`	`Gandharva`	`ckknight: is it possible to remove the button borders in Chinchilla?`
`17:58.43`	`ckknight`	`button borders?`
`17:58.50`	`ckknight`	`for the actual buttons around the minimap?`
`17:58.51`	`Kalroth`	`Does anyone remember the hotkey to move oRA2 MT windows? :P`
`17:58.56`	`Gandharva`	`yes`
`17:59.10`	`ckknight`	`Gandharva: not yet, as soon as Kaelten makes the jira project, can you report that?`
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`17:59.13`	`Zhinjio`	`Kalroth, Alt-Leftclick and drag, I believe`
`17:59.25`	`Bela\|work`	`anyone here that can talk to me about wowace updater?`
`17:59.26`	`Kalroth`	`Hrm, doesn't work (no, it's not locked :)`
`17:59.30`	`Gandharva`	`ok, would be cool to see this feature`
`17:59.45`	`Zenom`	`is there a better url for getting a list of addons or is files.wowace.com it? I want o use the waux.py script but it looks like that page is all javascript`
`17:59.51`	`Zhinjio`	`hmm, well, its some modifier key + left or right click + drag. grin`
`17:59.57`	`Zhinjio`	`thats... what, 6 comgbinations? get to it.`
`18:00.16`	`Kalroth`	`it's something like shift + alt or ctrl + alt or shift + ctrl or .. :P`
`18:00.29`	`Zhinjio`	`oh, two modifiers? I don't think so.`
`18:01.03`	`Zhinjio`	`maybe shift-leftclick?`
`18:01.07`	`Zhinjio`	`it was pretty simple, as I recall`
`18:01.10`	`Zhinjio`	`didn't take much effort`
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`18:02.04`	`Zhinjio`	`man. I need to get to bed. what am I still doing up.`
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`18:02.57`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: having loads of fun`
`18:03.47`	`Kalroth`	`got it, was just alt + left click, but it only works on the title :P`
`18:03.58`	`ckknight`	`Gandharva: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CHIN`
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`18:04.27`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: indeed. I got Humar last night!!!`
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`18:05.05`	`Zhinjio`	`http://geo.trippy.org/images/AnimaNera.png`
`18:05.12`	`Zhinjio`	`it took so long`
`18:07.19`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61299 10Chinchilla/Chinchilla.toc: Chinchilla - add X-IssueTracker`
`18:07.20`	`Fisker-`	`wtf ckknight :o`
`18:07.23`	`ckknight`	`what?`
`18:07.33`	`Fisker-`	`have you fixed a bug with pitbull showing 100% as 50%?`
`18:07.46`	`ckknight`	`that's a VisualHeal bug, I believe`
`18:07.52`	`ckknight`	`disable that module for now`
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`18:09.21`	`Fisker-`	`though it's still happening :(`
`18:09.33`	`Fisker-`	`just gonna reload ui`
`18:09.56`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61300 10Recount/ (. Tracker.lua):`
`18:09.56`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`18:09.57`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed a bug in arguments for environmental damage parsing.`
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`18:11.34`	`Fisker-`	`that fixed it`
`18:12.08`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61301 10YellCollect/ (23 files in 8 dirs):`
`18:12.08`	`CIA-12`	`YellCollect: initial commit`
`18:12.08`	`CIA-12`	`- Development tool for gathering boss yells`
`18:13.29`	`ulic`	`YellCount: Found New Boss yell from Elsia`
`18:13.59`	`Gandharva`	`ckknight: I created 2 jira tickets :)`
`18:14.07`	`Snago`	`ulic: it's YellCollect :P`
`18:14.12`	`Snago`	`~fail ulic`
`18:14.13`	`purl`	`ulic: Fail.`
`18:14.22`	`array{Endeavour}`	`hey, don't make fun of me :(`
`18:14.25`	`ulic`	`whoops, my bad`
`18:14.41`	`ulic`	`I merged recount and yellcollect`
`18:14.49`	`ckknight`	`Ben Shadwick made a duplicate`
`18:15.08`	`Snago`	`lol`
`18:15.31`	`Elsia`	`hmm is there a better way to get spellIds than farming wowhead?`
`18:15.51`	`Kreiger`	`ESP`
`18:17.01`	`clad\|away`	`use Antiarc's addon`
`18:17.04`	`clad\|away`	`depends on what you want`
`18:17.25`	`Elsia`	`basically I try to de-babble-spell recount so I need the spellIds for specific spells, like lifebloom or CC spells`
`18:20.43`	`Elsia`	`wowheading them is easy enough actually`
`18:22.09`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61302 10YellCollect/ (. YellCollect.lua):`
`18:22.09`	`CIA-12`	`YellCollect:`
`18:22.09`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated externals`
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`18:26.04`	`Elsia`	`is there any way to get from the API the tick time of say curse of doom, or of fireball's ignite dot?`
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`18:33.10`	`Snago`	`parsing the spell tooltip?`
`18:34.02`	`Elsia`	`no, just using spellIds instead of spell names, combat log now provides spellIDs so you can do everything independent of locale`
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`18:34.47`	`warlink`	`hey guys.. any of you who is using Chronometer, jeg was think if there were any way to make it display how many stacks of ex lifebloom there is on a target..?`
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`18:42.24`	`kneeki`	`How do I go about removing an addon from the SVN?`
`18:43.05`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`http://svnbook.red-bean.com/`
`18:43.40`	`CIA-12`	`03hegarol * r61303 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua:`
`18:43.40`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot_WorldLoot:`
`18:43.40`	`CIA-12`	`- Valentines day update`
`18:43.48`	`cncfanatics`	`kneeki: svn rm http://dev.wowace.com/trunk/YOURADDON/`
`18:43.51`	`CIA-12`	`03hegarol * r61304 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`18:43.51`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`18:43.51`	`CIA-12`	`- Sunwell update`
`18:43.55`	`cncfanatics`	`(don't forget the youraddon part please)`
`18:44.38`	`kneeki`	`Ah`
`18:46.27`	`kneeki`	`Hmm, I guess i don't need to remove them yet I suppose.`
`18:46.30`	`kneeki`	`nvm =P`
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`18:48.30`	`Dashkal`	`How busy are the SVN admins atm? (not trying to be impatient, just curious about how long it should take to get a response to my email)`
`18:48.38`	`CIA-12`	`03kneeki * r61305 10BlessingBar/ (5 files):`
`18:48.38`	`CIA-12`	`BlessingBar:`
`18:48.38`	`CIA-12`	`- This addon has been discontinued and included in ClassButtons, please download ClassButtons.`
`18:48.39`	`Grum`	`what email?`
`18:48.48`	`Grum`	`asking for an account? takes 2-3 days orso`
`18:48.57`	`Dashkal`	`Grum: danke`
`18:49.30`	`Elsia`	`can take 2 weeks too.. that's how long it took for me... but I applied over the holidays`
`18:49.36`	`Dashkal`	`Not quite ready to lay down code yet anyway so I'm not in a hurry`
`18:50.04`	`CIA-12`	`03kneeki * r61306 10CurseBar/ (. CurseBar.lua CurseBar.toc Template.xml localization.lua):`
`18:50.04`	`CIA-12`	`CurseBar:`
`18:50.04`	`CIA-12`	`- This addon has been discontinued and included in ClassButtons, please download ClassButtons.`
`18:51.17`	`CIA-12`	`03kneeki * r61307 10SealBar/ (. SealBar.lua SealBar.toc Template.xml localization.lua):`
`18:51.17`	`CIA-12`	`SealBar:`
`18:51.17`	`CIA-12`	`- This addon has been discontinued and included in ClassButtons, please download ClassButtons.`
`18:53.11`	`CIA-12`	`03kneeki * r61308 10SummoningBar/ (5 files):`
`18:53.11`	`CIA-12`	`SummoningBar:`
`18:53.11`	`CIA-12`	`- This addon has been discontinued and included in ClassButtons, please download ClassButtons.`
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`18:53.54`	`Dashkal`	`Yes! In the queue`
`18:54.40`	`neenee`	`Hm.`
`18:54.49`	`neenee`	`ClassButtons can't be seen by jWoWUpdater yet.`
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`18:55.05`	`Elsia`	`meh still no cookie for me :(`
`18:55.36`	`neenee`	`ClassButtons is not on files.wowace.com either`
`18:55.52`	`kneeki`	`I know`
`18:55.55`	`kneeki`	`It will be shortly =P`
`18:56.00`	`neenee`	`:)`
`18:56.09`	`neenee`	`I'm just curious as to what it does`
`18:56.16`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: so it seems recount incorrectly didn't include my felguard in some fight`
`18:56.17`	`neenee`	`At the moment I do not use any bar-mods`
`18:56.26`	`kneeki`	`neither do i`
`18:56.28`	`NeoTron`	`I thought I sucked until I saw the WWS and noticed I was on top`
`18:56.29`	`Elsia`	`neo: live or PTR version?`
`18:56.44`	`Elsia`	`live I guess`
`18:56.48`	`Dashkal`	`Heh, if you were listening in the channel, thank you (Just got my SVN email)`
`18:56.50`	`kneeki`	`## Notes: Minimalism is key here. This will create 4 rows of buttons (if your class uses that many) on the right side of your screen & one row of buttons at the bottom w/ class specific abilitys.`
`18:56.59`	`NeoTron`	`live`
`18:57.05`	`neenee`	`Ah.`
`18:57.09`	`NeoTron`	`it adds it sometimes so I don't know why`
`18:57.12`	`Elsia`	`pet handling is being rewritten for 2.4 as we speak`
`18:57.14`	`neenee`	`I'll try it later.`
`18:57.17`	`NeoTron`	`ok`
`18:57.52`	`CIA-12`	`03kneeki * r61309 10ClassButtons/ (6 files):`
`18:57.52`	`CIA-12`	`ClassButtons:`
`18:57.52`	`CIA-12`	`- Initial Commit.`
`18:58.18`	`NeoTron`	`doesn't matter much, as I respecced mid raid back to destruction`
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`18:58.36`	`NeoTron`	`FG is kind of fun but distracting when you're leading a raid`
`18:59.05`	`neenee`	`mid-raid? You left for a trainer with the rest waiting inside?`
`18:59.47`	`Elsia`	`~seen sorata`
`18:59.52`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'sorata', Elsia`
`19:00.27`	`NeoTron`	`neenee: they were clearing trash, not waiting :P`
`19:00.32`	`neenee`	`oki`
`19:00.34`	`neenee`	`:)`
`19:00.43`	`NeoTron`	`quick teleport back too`
`19:00.55`	`neenee`	`[=`
`19:01.08`	`NeoTron`	`I'm the illidan tank and didn't feel like trying to learn if it was possible to do in a realistic fashion with a felguard`
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`19:01.41`	`neenee`	`:)`
`19:01.46`	`neenee`	`Might have been fun though`
`19:02.00`	`neenee`	`A bit of variety`
`19:02.25`	`MySpoons2Big`	`mmk, I'll come over to this chat because wowi-lounge has apparently digressed to politics. I'm having an issue with the Guild Control frame. See this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665618046&postId=46649388486&sid=1#0`
`19:02.43`	`CIA-12`	`03kneeki * r61310 10ClassButtons/:`
`19:02.43`	`CIA-12`	`ClassButtons:`
`19:02.43`	`CIA-12`	`- Setting externals`
`19:04.36`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61311 10Chinchilla/ (17 files in 9 dirs): Chinchilla - add in localization support`
`19:05.26`	`ckknight`	`MySpoons2Big: complex`
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`19:06.39`	`Elsia`	`what's chinchilla?`
`19:06.53`	`ckknight`	`Elsia: minimap addon`
`19:06.58`	`Elsia`	`ah`
`19:07.00`	`ckknight`	`Elsia: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11384`
`19:07.40`	`dieck`	`hm, how do I remove an entry from a referenced table? t = { ['value1'] = 123, ['value2'] = 345 } -- how to "delete" value2? table.remove(t, 'value2') does not work -- string found, numeric expected`
`19:08.09`	`MySpoons2Big`	`ckknight: How so?`
`19:08.17`	`ckknight`	`MySpoons2Big: can't see your issue`
`19:09.01`	`Dashkal`	`dieck: t.value2 = nil`
`19:09.24`	`Dashkal`	`There is no difference between a table entry pointing to nil and a table entry that doesn't exist`
`19:09.43`	`chiper`	`Kaelten: poke`
`19:09.54`	`dieck`	`Dashkal: hm, that simple? isn't value2=nil listed in "for ... pairs" loops then?`
`19:09.58`	`MySpoons2Big`	`Yeah, it's a little frustrating. :-S`
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`19:10.02`	`ckknight`	`MySpoons2Big: not right away, at least`
`19:10.38`	`Dashkal`	`dieck: That is the case (for k, v in pairs(t) will no longer see value2)`
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`19:10.55`	`dieck`	`Dashkal: ah, nice`
`19:11.03`	`Kaelten`	`chiper: hi`
`19:11.22`	`chiper`	`Kaelten: no sign of second email. checked both local and gmail spam boxes`
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`19:13.23`	`chiper`	`unless you cleverly disguised it as a viagra message :)`
`19:14.40`	`chiper`	`ckknight: I'm assuming chinchilla supports ace profiles for location and such?`
`19:15.30`	`chiper`	`if you can make it auto-arrange the buttons like Mappy does, I'd love you :D`
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`19:17.41`	`ckknight`	`chiper: it has a profiling system`
`19:17.50`	`ckknight`	`chiper: what do you mean auto-arrange the buttons?`
`19:18.01`	`Dashkal`	`meh, stupid question: pairs(t) or ipairs(t) to do a non-array table?`
`19:18.30`	`chiper`	`mappy has a feature where it auto-moves all minimap buttons to be equidistant around the map, maximizing space usage`
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`19:19.22`	`chiper`	`it's my favorite feature of the addon, but mappy doesn't play well with multiple characters, so I'm inclined to dump it.`
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`19:19.55`	`ckknight`	`Dashkal: pairs(t) for a dictionary/set, ipairs(t) for a list`
`19:20.16`	`Dashkal`	`click ipairs - indexed pairs for the list. danke`
`19:20.31`	`break19`	`Kaelten: poke`
`19:20.45`	`ckknight`	`chiper: hrm... seems complex`
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`19:21.23`	`Dashkal`	`I keep getting confused by java-isms. (a good part of why I'm picking up LUA, limited by java thinking bad)`
`19:21.24`	`krka`	`Dashkal: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.`
`19:21.41`	`Dashkal`	`I have got to stop capatalizing it, I do know this, but I keep doing it sighs`
`19:21.44`	`MoonWolf`	`i hate that autoline trigger so much`
`19:22.01`	`Dashkal`	`I wonder if I can make Chatzilla auto-substitute for me`
`19:22.06`	`Kaelten`	`break19: pong`
`19:22.07`	`break19`	`krka: so.. does this mean the language is showin its ass?`
`19:22.10`	`MoonWolf`	`xchat can`
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`19:23.31`	`syeren`	`ckknight, is Pitbull working fully on the latest Rev?`
`19:23.42`	`syeren`	`Because I just lost an arena game because everyone was full health -_-`
`19:23.46`	`Dashkal`	`MoonWolf: nods I'll probably need a "real" irc client for that kind of feature... but CZ is so easy!`
`19:23.50`	`ckknight`	`syeren: turn off VisualHeal`
`19:24.07`	`ckknight`	`once I get back home, I'll either fix VisualHeal or disable it for people`
`19:24.11`	`dieck`	`hm. if I want to "copy" a table for temporary manipulations, it looks like tabletemp = tableorig; creates a object link instead of copying the table? is there any simple way to copy a table?`
`19:24.55`	`ckknight`	`dieck: local t = {} for k, v in pairs(tableorig) do t[k] = v end`
`19:24.58`	`ckknight`	`it's a shallow copy, though`
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`19:27.10`	`Hell-Razor`	`hey guys anybody know of the addon that will add an extra bar ontop of the default bars for the wow ui? (i know you can enable the set ontop of the main bar in the options but there is an addon to give you another set above those)`
`19:27.11`	`cncfanatics`	`function copytable(table) local newtable = {}; for k, v in pairs(table) do if(type(v) == "table") then newtable[k] = copytable(v); else newtable[k] = v; end end end`
`19:27.15`	`cncfanatics`	`dieck: try that`
`19:27.23`	`cncfanatics`	`and put a return newtable; at the end`
`19:29.27`	`Elcottleto`	`Little questsion ACE 3 is online, work all the aceaddons on ace 3 better than with ace 2`
`19:30.00`	`Kivin`	`dieck: here's a recursive deep copy if you happen to need it: http://ace.pastey.net/82189`
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`19:30.26`	Funkeh`	`any paladin can tell me how many ranks of Righteous Fury there are?`
`19:30.37`	`Kivin`	`one`
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`19:30.41`	`Kivin`	`i think`
`19:30.47`	`Kivin`	`oh wait, 3`
`19:30.57`	`genetik`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?search=righteous+fury#abilities`
`19:31.00`	`genetik`	`3`
`19:31.13`	`Kivin`	`1 off the trainer plus 3 talents`
`19:31.16`	`nevcairiel`	`righteous fury itself doesnt have any rank, there is only improved righteous fury with a rank`
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`19:31.39`	Funkeh`	`do you know if that changes the spellID`
`19:31.44`	`Kivin`	`not a clue`
`19:31.48`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`19:31.55`	`nevcairiel`	`it doesnt`
`19:32.11`	Funkeh`	`so its the last one 25780`
`19:32.17`	Funkeh`	`or?`
`19:32.29`	Funkeh`	`on the wowhead page`
`19:32.33`	`Kivin`	`yes`
`19:32.34`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`19:32.39`	`Kivin`	`that's the spell. the other IDs are talents`
`19:32.43`	Funkeh`	`right`
`19:32.45`	Funkeh`	`thanks`
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`19:36.43`	`chiper`	`ckknight: re, button spacing. isnt button placement is a measurement of the 360º radius around the map? 360 / number of buttons. hard part is aligning them with the map edge`
`19:37.09`	`ckknight`	`yea`
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`19:37.22`	`ckknight`	`but also possibly dealing with like FuBar plugins and the like`
`19:37.23`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`19:38.49`	`chiper`	`I know it handles fubar plugins. I'll have to look at mappy's code when I get home`
`19:39.23`	`dieck`	`is there a nice way to let a script "sleep" some seconds? e.g. if you want to present a roll macro countdown?`
`19:39.43`	`ckknight`	`dieck: you have to set up a timer`
`19:39.50`	`dieck`	`hm, ok`
`19:39.53`	`ckknight`	`chiper: it's just one more thing to worry about`
`19:40.24`	`chiper`	`heh`
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`19:46.01`	`sylvanaar`	`i just saw jumper - good movie - though the ending was sorta meh`
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`19:46.44`	`chiper`	`oh that's out now?`
`19:46.50`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah`
`19:47.00`	`chiper`	`mmm, will have to see that this weekend`
`19:47.10`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: I got my prat module working`
`19:47.41`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper you did? kewl - does it make sense now how it works?`
`19:47.50`	`chiper`	`yeah, it was actually extremely easy`
`19:47.53`	`chiper`	`I was surprised`
`19:48.14`	`chiper`	`it wasnt loading because I had LOD set, but nothing knew to demand it`
`19:48.24`	`sylvanaar`	`hehe`
`19:48.44`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah - the modules are easy to make - that why there are so many rofl`
`19:48.46`	`chiper`	`I cant figure out how to add text fields for changing the format string tho`
`19:49.16`	`chiper`	`is there a reference somewhere for setting up config options?`
`19:50.20`	`chiper`	`I'll be putting it on SVN after work, but for now you can get it here. http://files.chipersoft.com/Prat_Signon.zip`
`19:52.06`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 07FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu * r61312 10test/ (4 files): FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu: Initial Commit`
`19:52.38`	`break19`	`ok.. i didnt think branches updates showed up here.. heh`
`19:53.15`	`Kivin`	`what's TB2Fu?`
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`19:54.30`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper hm?`
`19:55.01`	`_rane`	`is there a hotkey for buying a stack of something from a vendor?`
`19:55.17`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 * r61313 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu - Move from branches/test into trunk`
`19:55.23`	`_rane`	`iirc there is something like that by default in the game but i can't seem to find it`
`19:55.30`	`break19`	`kivin: a fubar plugin.. for TrinityBars2 :p`
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`19:56.24`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: the addon uses four format strings for filling in the data. I want to make the strings editable, but I don't know how to define that in the module options`
`19:57.24`	`Dashkal`	`[OT] curses and complains about erased genrics in java`
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`19:58.44`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper ah, its in the aceoptions documentation - you use text fields etc. nice job btw - looks like you figured out how the message table works`
`19:59.29`	`chiper`	`there wont be any complications with me niling out all those fields, will there? is that going to cause problems for other modules?`
`20:00.06`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper no - thats what you are supposed to do`
`20:00.12`	`chiper`	`ok, cool`
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`20:00.56`	`whizter`	`is there a way to check if a certain item currently has a cooldown or not inside a macro?`
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`20:01.34`	`chiper`	`break19: are you the guy behind trinitybars, or did you just make the fubar plugin?`
`20:01.48`	`break19`	`just the plugin`
`20:01.52`	`Kivin`	`maul wrote tb`
`20:01.58`	`break19`	`ya, what kivin said`
`20:02.02`	`chiper`	`ah, ok`
`20:04.13`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 * r61314 10FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu/: FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu: Add in proper externals definitions.`
`20:04.21`	`*** join/#wowace Kaile (n=dasda@82-169-59-52.ip.telfort.nl)`
`20:04.48`	`Kaile`	`Hey folks, I'm looking for an Addon that doesnt have to many bells and whistles, Just something lightweight that can show me the enemy cooldowns?`
`20:04.59`	`Kaile`	`And i hate Natur, I'm looking for something clean :>`
`20:05.20`	`Kaile`	`Something that shows me pummels, and blinks, for Arena use basicly.`
`20:05.24`	`Kaile`	`Can anyone help me out? :)`
`20:05.48`	`cladhaire`	`Kaile: look into Afflicted I think its called`
`20:05.50`	`cladhaire`	`on wowinterface`
`20:05.53`	`cladhaire`	`Shadowed's mod`
`20:05.59`	`Shadowed`	`I DIDNT DO IT`
`20:05.59`	`Shadowed`	`oh`
`20:06.02`	`Shadowed`	`yes i did then`
`20:06.10`	`Kaile`	`Let's see :>`
`20:07.07`	`Kaile`	`Looks awsome! Thanks alot :)`
`20:08.44`	`Shadowed`	`enjoy`
`20:09.53`	`Kaile`	`As an Arena player I'm also working with Proximo ofcourse, and Focus Frame/casting bar, but is there any other must-have for arena i dont know about yet?`
`20:09.57`	`Kaile`	`Just curious :)`
`20:10.14`	`cladhaire`	`Kaile: some would say sspvp`
`20:10.16`	`cladhaire`	`2`
`20:10.22`	`Kaile`	`What is it?`
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`20:11.20`	`Kaile`	`Ah, I see.`
`20:11.21`	`sylvanaar`	`sspvp is great`
`20:11.25`	`Kaile`	`Just some display improvents?`
`20:11.26`	`sylvanaar`	`been using it for years`
`20:11.34`	`Shadowed`	`Ossirian MAYBE, but he has 490k HP and I THINK he may have a berserk timer`
`20:11.38`	`Shadowed`	`bah`
`20:11.44`	`Shadowed`	`http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info4569-SSPVP2.html`
`20:11.44`	`Shadowed`	`that`
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`20:12.51`	`Proph`	`anyone got a focus macro for a rogue's gouge?`
`20:13.34`	`Kaile`	`Sure`
`20:13.45`	`Kaile`	`. (remove the dots)`
`20:13.50`	`Kaile`	`. /target focus`
`20:13.56`	`Kaile`	`. /cast Gouge`
`20:14.01`	`Kaile`	`. /targetlasttarget`
`20:14.08`	`Kaile`	`That's all, 3 lines :)`
`20:14.38`	`Snago`	`why not just /cast [target=focus] Gouge ?`
`20:15.56`	`Proph`	`thx`
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`20:17.25`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={1,2}; pairs(test)`
`20:17.26`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: No output`
`20:17.35`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={1,2}; print(pairs(test))`
`20:17.35`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x637630, nil`
`20:17.53`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={1,2}; x=pairs(test); print(x)`
`20:17.53`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: function: 0x6290b0`
`20:18.02`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={1=2}; x=pairs(test); print(x)`
`20:18.02`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: luabot:1: '}' expected near '='`
`20:18.17`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={[1]=2}; x=pairs(test); print(x)`
`20:18.17`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: function: 0x6290b0`
`20:18.30`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={[1]=2}; x=pairs(test[1]); print(x)`
`20:18.31`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got number)`
`20:18.41`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={[1]=2}; x=pairs(test); print(x)`
`20:18.41`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: function: 0x6290b0`
`20:18.47`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={[1]=2}; x,y=pairs(test); print(x)`
`20:18.48`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: function: 0x6290b0`
`20:18.52`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={[1]=2}; x,y=pairs(test); print(x,y)`
`20:18.53`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x63ed30`
`20:19.04`	`Elsia`	`lua> test={["a"]=true}; x,y=pairs(test); print(x,y)`
`20:19.04`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x63ed30`
`20:19.06`	`nevcairiel`	`meh query the bot`
`20:19.10`	`Synneth`	`does anyone know how to fix the jerky cast bar problem with pitbull? as in, i have party cast bars enabled but the bar updates in "blocks" of 20% :/`
`20:19.27`	`Dashkal`	`I thought pairs returned an iterator function rather than a list?`
`20:19.38`	`nevcairiel`	`it does`
`20:19.38`	`Elsia`	`i see`
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`20:20.02`	`nevcairiel`	`but for extensive tests without any meaningful explanatory value, just use privmsg with the bot, please :P`
`20:20.16`	`Elsia`	`lua> function a() return 1,2 end; y,x=a(); print(y)`
`20:20.16`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: 1`
`20:20.20`	`Elsia`	`lua> function a() return 1,2 end; y=a(); print(y)`
`20:20.20`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: 1`
`20:20.30`	`Elsia`	`ok sorry`
`20:21.37`	`dylanm`	`You get back next and the whatever you passed to it yeah.`
`20:22.16`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61315 10ChatStamp/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:22.16`	`CIA-12`	`ChatStamp: Initial commit`
`20:22.16`	`CIA-12`	`- Add configurable timestamps (and more!) to your chat.`
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`20:32.07`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61316 10Recount/ (. Sync.lua Tracker.lua embeds.xml healbuffs.lua):`
`20:32.07`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`20:32.07`	`CIA-12`	`- Using spellId throughout, hence Babble-Spell is no longer needed. Conversion to localized strings via GetSpellInfo().`
`20:32.40`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61317 10ChatStamp/: ChatStamp: - Fix SVN external settings and other misc SVN hoop-a-joo`
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`20:34.33`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61318 10YellCollect/ (Libs/ YellCollect.lua YellCollect.toc embeds.xml):`
`20:34.33`	`CIA-12`	`YellCollect:`
`20:34.33`	`CIA-12`	`- minor fixes`
`20:34.59`	`Zariel`	`http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Reader-Book-Holder-Paper/dp/B000EX3N5C/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1202867185&sr=8-44http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Reader-Book-Holder-Paper/dp/B000EX3N5C/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1202867185&sr=8-44`
`20:35.18`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61319 10ChatStamp/ (. libs/): ChatStamp: - Fix SVN:externals so they will go into the 'libs' directory as-intended`
`20:35.45`	`Kaile`	`Oh, Another question`
`20:36.05`	`Kaile`	`I heard that there is another addon like Scrolling Combat Text that is actually better.`
`20:36.13`	`Kaile`	`Is that true, and if so, What is its name?`
`20:36.33`	`Chompers`	`Parrot`
`20:36.36`	`dylanm`	`There are alternatives.`
`20:36.45`	`dylanm`	`I use MikScrollingBattleText. Parrot is nice too.`
`20:36.47`	`sylvanaar`	`there are alternatives to everything around here`
`20:36.48`	`durcyn`	`define 'better'`
`20:37.00`	`Kaile`	`Well, Let's say for PvP use.`
`20:37.05`	`Kivin`	`msbt has pretty much everything you could want and a lot less system resource consumption than parrot`
`20:37.08`	`Kaile`	`Arena in particular.`
`20:38.06`	`Kaile`	`Okay, msbt it is then`
`20:38.08`	`Kaile`	`thanks :)`
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`20:38.47`	`Kaile`	`And yet Drums another question, I downloaded Afflicted.`
`20:38.53`	`Kaile`	`It works great! Thanks Shadow :>`
`20:38.56`	`Kaile`	`But.`
`20:39.05`	`Kaile`	`I need to add Cheat Death to it aswel.`
`20:39.28`	`Ozguli`	`what's the wlock aoe thing called, the one that explodes after an amount of dmg?`
`20:39.38`	`Kivin`	`seed of corruption`
`20:39.46`	`Chambrln`	`is it possible to create frame elements via code? I know of the function to create a frame but I wanted to add elements to it dynamically.`
`20:39.56`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61320 10ChatStamp/libs/: ChatStamp: - need external AceHook-2.1, not AceLocale-2.2 (cut and paste be damned!)`
`20:40.01`	`Ozguli`	`thank you. I was completely unable to recall it`
`20:40.11`	`dylanm`	`Chambrln: CreateFrame has a parent argument.`
`20:40.27`	`Kaile`	`Anyhow.`
`20:40.39`	`Kaile`	`Right now i am stuck with giving the new ability the right icon.`
`20:41.12`	`Kaile`	`What is the icon path of "Cheat death"?`
`20:41.13`	`Kaile`	`Interface\Icons\Ability_Cheat_Death`
`20:41.15`	`Kaile`	`?`
`20:41.22`	`Kaile`	`That one doesnt work.`
`20:41.23`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaile: I don't think so`
`20:41.28`	`cncfanatics`	`ask wowhead`
`20:41.31`	`dylanm`	`Kaile: Ability_Rogue_CheatDeath`
`20:42.29`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/ability_rogue_cheatdeath.jpg is the link on wowhead`
`20:42.39`	`Kaile`	`Interface\Icons\Ability_Rogue_CheatDeath doesnt work for me.`
`20:42.41`	`Kaile`	`Ah... I see.`
`20:42.43`	`cncfanatics`	`so the link in WoW would be Interface\Icons\Ability_Rogue_CheatDeath normaly`
`20:42.45`	`Kaile`	`Never thought of that.`
`20:43.10`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61321 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua:`
`20:43.10`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs: Kalecgos:`
`20:43.10`	`CIA-12`	`- More advanced Wild Magic handling`
`20:43.10`	`CIA-12`	`- curse warnings implemented in form of bars to prevent spam, also stopped when removed.`
`20:43.10`	`CIA-12`	`- localization needs updated`
`20:43.11`	`CIA-12`	`- need feedback on all this(see forum), all drycoded(expect typos), eu ptr is dead.`
`20:43.18`	`dylanm`	`If you double-click on an icon on wowhead it'll give you the name all nice-like.`
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`20:43.34`	`cncfanatics`	`it will ? :o`
`20:43.40`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`20:43.50`	`cncfanatics`	`indeed :o`
`20:43.52`	`cncfanatics`	`didn't know that one`
`20:43.53`	`cncfanatics`	`<3`
`20:45.00`	`Aeyan`	`Wowhead is awesome like that`
`20:45.20`	`Snago`	`That feature rocks! Thanks for the info :)`
`20:45.31`	`Kaile`	`Yeah, wowhead for the win <3`
`20:47.17`	`Shadowed`	`It'll be a bit easier once 2.4 hits`
`20:47.22`	`Shadowed`	`given it can just auto-detect icons`
`20:48.05`	`Shadowed`	`waiting for someone to come out with 2.4 combatlog stuff i can look at given Bgs are down`
`20:48.08`	`sb_`	`FtH\|Daemona: kalecgos? :o`
`20:48.20`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`ptr is down`
`20:48.23`	`sb_`	`i know ;)`
`20:48.30`	`sb_`	`FtH\|Daemona: kick atreyor! :p`
`20:50.58`	`Kaile`	`When 2.4 comes out, Does that mean that it's likely that 90% of our addons will go poof now?`
`20:51.17`	`Kaile`	`Because they're re-doing the entire combat log?`
`20:51.54`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61322 10Chinchilla/locale/zhCN.lua:`
`20:51.54`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla:`
`20:51.54`	`CIA-12`	`- zhCN locale added (Fast enough to win a reward eh?). And description for the coordinates module is wrong, please fix it.`
`20:51.59`	`sb_`	`FtH\|Daemona: okay? ;)`
`20:52.06`	`ckknight`	`that is a fast localization`
`20:52.30`	`Stanzilla`	`< is too lazy for deDE :p`
`20:53.42`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61323 10Chinchilla/ (Coordinates/Coordinates.lua locale/enUS.lua): Chinchilla - fix Coordinates description`
`20:53.42`	`ckknight`	`Stanzilla: shrug I don't care either way, to be honest`
`20:53.50`	`ckknight`	`you can localize it if it'll offer you something`
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`20:57.50`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61324 10Chinchilla/locale/zhCN.lua:`
`20:57.50`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla:`
`20:57.50`	`CIA-12`	`- zhCN fix`
`20:58.16`	`ckknight`	`I gotta say, my addons do tend to have pretty good zhCN support`
`20:58.23`	`ckknight`	`as long as the translators don't break it in the process`
`20:59.08`	`Kalman\|`	`Shadowed: I wrote a MATLAB 2.4 parser, but I'm guessing that isn't what you wanted. :p`
`20:59.17`	`Shadowed`	`yea i saw`
`20:59.22`	`Shadowed`	`I meant the actual LUA code for dealing with it :p`
`20:59.22`	`krka`	`Shadowed: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.`
`20:59.29`	`Shadowed`	`LUA`
`20:59.33`	`Shadowed`	`hmm`
`20:59.40`	`krka`	`sorry, i am not a bot :(`
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`20:59.52`	`Shadowed`	`i did mean moon code anyway`
`20:59.52`	`dylanm`	`LUA LUA ohhh oh oh`
`20:59.53`	Funkeh`	`do that for ACE also please`
`21:00.03`	`Shadowed`	`trying to run and type`
`21:00.06`	`Shadowed`	`alt tabbing is fun`
`21:00.28`	`Antiarc`	`You know what?`
`21:00.36`	`Antiarc`	`My next addon will be acronymized "LUA"`
`21:00.49`	`Antiarc`	`Just to give people aneurysms`
`21:00.54`	`Shadowed`	`ACE would be better`
`21:01.03`	Funkeh`	`Antiarc, I can give you one for free right now...`
`21:01.06`	`Antiarc`	`I'll write a plugin for it that comes out to ACE`
`21:01.53`	`Shadowed`	`Toss every lib in existence as well and call it more efficient`
`21:02.05`	Funkeh`	`did they apply a patch to us ptr`
`21:02.35`	`cladhaire`	`should i feel bad about killing random people i run into while questing?`
`21:02.41`	`Shadowed`	`yes`
`21:02.45`	`Shadowed`	`are you killing them when they're drinking?`
`21:02.50`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`21:02.54`	`Shadowed`	`then you fail`
`21:02.55`	`cladhaire`	`a bear was sitting in the road`
`21:03.06`	`cladhaire`	`but i two shot a rogue yesterday =/`
`21:03.09`	`cladhaire`	`surely that counts for something`
`21:03.11`	`Shadowed`	`you're supposed to gank people drinking, or who are killing quest mobs`
`21:03.13`	`cladhaire`	`and he was +3 levels`
`21:03.49`	`Antiarc`	`I'm stuck at handshaking when logging into the PTR`
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`21:03.59`	Funkeh`	`good`
`21:04.04`	Funkeh`	`eu too`
`21:04.23`	Funkeh`	`guess maybe it is a new build`
`21:04.32`	`cladhaire`	`yay`
`21:05.54`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ`
`21:06.00`	`Antiarc`	`" The 2.4 PTR's have been brought down for server maintenance and are currently offline, we will update you as soon as they are back up"`
`21:06.01`	`Antiarc`	`So yay`
`21:06.27`	`break19`	`Antiarc: Lingo User Aphorisms - adds more emotes :)`
`21:07.17`	`break19`	`and.. a cooldown mod: Awesome Cooldown Expressions`
`21:08.54`	`chiper`	`Lookout Update Addon, helps shamen with their Sentry Totem`
`21:09.08`	`break19`	`or that! :)`
`21:09.13`	`Antiarc`	`http://gizmodo.com/356366/indiana-jones-iv-trailer-makes-us-wet-our-pants :O`
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`21:17.36`	`neenee`	`I enjoyed the trailer instead of wetting my pants.`
`21:18.15`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61325 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Kalecgos: commentz`
`21:18.50`	`chiper`	`I'm looking forward to it`
`21:20.06`	`Dezzimal`	`is there an addon to do mass enchanting overwrites to level up enchanting?`
`21:21.00`	`Shadowed`	`Fairly sure thats protected, so we can't`
`21:24.33`	`Dashkal`	`wow, that does look pretty good (IJ)`
`21:24.48`	`neenee`	`:)`
`21:24.51`	`neenee`	`yup`
`21:25.01`	`NivFreak`	`Dashkal: force enchant?`
`21:25.24`	`chiper`	`who'd have thought spielburg could still make good movies, or that harrison ford could still do action`
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`21:29.45`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61326 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (WorldEvents.cn.lua WorldEvents.en.lua):`
`21:29.45`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot_WorldLoot:`
`21:29.45`	`CIA-12`	`- zhCN update, and did a tiny favor for the original table`
`21:30.52`	`break19`	`Gratuitous Valentine's Day Dumb Blonde Joke: Why did the blonde get her boyfriend a kitten for Valentine's Day?`
`21:31.20`	`break19`	`He said all he wanted from her was a little p---y`
`21:32.09`	`chiper`	`wha wha wha`
`21:33.49`	`break19`	`mmm.. Dr Jones!@ woohoooooo heh`
`21:35.17`	`chiper`	`I wonder if he had to rewatch the first three to remember how to play the character`
`21:35.47`	`break19`	`heh. I doubt it.. one would think that actors could remember their big break characters.. :)`
`21:35.49`	`Dashkal`	`NivFreak: shake the indiana jones preview`
`21:35.56`	`NivFreak`	`hrm?`
`21:36.13`	`Dashkal`	`In response to [13:25]<NivFreak>Dashkal: force enchant?`
`21:36.31`	`NivFreak`	`I was suggesting a mod`
`21:36.52`	`Dashkal`	`Dezzimal was the one asking :p`
`21:36.58`	`NivFreak`	`oh`
`21:37.02`	`NivFreak`	`auto complete failed`
`21:37.06`	`Dashkal`	`heh`
`21:37.14`	`NivFreak`	`Dezzimal: http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=2516`
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`21:38.49`	`Dezzimal`	`aparently thats broken now :(`
`21:38.59`	`Dezzimal`	`oh well`
`21:39.00`	`NivFreak`	`works for me`
`21:39.16`	`Antiarc`	`"Players said it would never happen, but Blizzard co-founder Frank Pearce laid out a plan for what Blizzard is considering if they port of World of Warcraft to mobile devices."`
`21:39.30`	`NivFreak`	`...`
`21:39.38`	`NivFreak`	`how about they make it run better on my MBP first`
`21:39.41`	`Fisker-`	`one should not link wowui :I`
`21:39.59`	`EvilGrin`	`Where do I report bugs with Quartz?`
`21:40.20`	`Antiarc`	`"Blizz is working on a way to stream a trial version of WoW so people who want to try the game can be playing in 10 minutes."`
`21:40.47`	`NivFreak`	`they already did that`
`21:41.02`	`NivFreak`	`you can download it now`
`21:41.10`	`Antiarc`	`That's awesome.`
`21:41.16`	`NivFreak`	`Fisker-: I was too lazy to find it elsewhere :p`
`21:41.19`	`NivFreak`	`it was the first google it`
`21:43.33`	`ckknight`	`NivFreak: yea, but it's awfully big, I think they're thinking about only getting part of the game (not all the models and the like)`
`21:43.47`	`ckknight`	`and then while playing, get the rest of it`
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`21:44.08`	`NivFreak`	`hrmm`
`21:44.13`	`NivFreak`	`I thought the one they have now was small`
`21:44.18`	`Dashkal`	`armory.mmo-champion.com meltdown?`
`21:44.20`	`clad\|sleep`	`3 gigs isn't small`
`21:45.16`	`NivFreak`	`not tha one`
`21:45.23`	`NivFreak`	`they have a newer streaming trial client`
`21:45.36`	`clad\|sleep`	`oh okay`
`21:45.39`	`clad\|sleep`	`didn't know that :P`
`21:45.51`	`NivFreak`	`ok, I'm testing now`
`21:46.00`	`NivFreak`	`looks like 2 mins total`
`21:46.01`	`NivFreak`	`let's see`
`21:46.26`	`NivFreak`	`ok`
`21:46.29`	`NivFreak`	`installed on a new machine`
`21:46.30`	`NivFreak`	`and playing`
`21:46.36`	`NivFreak`	`that was pretty fast :P`
`21:46.47`	`NivFreak`	`2-3 mins`
`21:48.41`	`clad\|sleep`	`nice`
`21:48.43`	`clad\|sleep`	`very cool`
`21:49.13`	`clad\|sleep`	`NivFreak: link?`
`21:49.53`	`NivFreak`	`front page`
`21:49.55`	`NivFreak`	`trial`
`21:50.03`	`NivFreak`	`https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/10dayfreetrial.htm`
`21:50.04`	`NivFreak`	`is the direct`
`21:50.16`	`NivFreak`	`I just clicked the PC link at the bottom of the page`
`21:51.51`	`clad\|sleep`	`interesting`
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`21:54.52`	`kd3`	`US PTR char copy appears to be up as of this very instant. probably not for long. go go go.`
`21:55.01`	`Tifi`	`how do i get a mapping inventory slot id -> slot name?`
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`21:56.03`	`CIA-12`	`03hedin * r61327 10WF3sec/core.lua: WF3sec: GCD update`
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`21:56.16`	`Dashkal`	`dear lord there are a lot of scheduling algorithms...`
`21:57.38`	`Shirik`	`for what?`
`21:57.46`	`Shirik`	`If for operating systems, then yes, it is very fun stuff`
`21:57.50`	`Dashkal`	`Erm, yeah, context = good.`
`21:58.12`	`Dashkal`	`Ok, I'm pondering the problem of my mod (Nexus) needing to slow down it's processing of tasks so it doesn't murder a player's framerate`
`21:58.14`	`Shirik`	`I mean there's about 6 different ways just to schedule HDD access`
`21:58.44`	`haste`	`[Citation needed]`
`21:58.52`	`Shirik`	`um`
`21:58.55`	`Shirik`	`I have the book near me somewhere`
`21:59.09`	`Dashkal`	`heh, I have my old OS design textbook somewhere as well`
`21:59.12`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmechtley/2124520510/`
`21:59.13`	`Shirik`	`"Operating System Concepts, 7th Ed. Gilbershatz, Galvin, Gagne"`
`21:59.34`	`haste`	`heh`
`21:59.47`	`Tifi`	`and what are those tasks?`
`22:00.36`	`Dashkal`	`Tifi: One of the first will be md5 hashing`
`22:01.05`	`Dashkal`	`I don't want to just hash all the messages at once, I'd rather spread it out (without cutting off other things like communication with other players)`
`22:03.35`	`dieck`	`hm, how can I get the epoch second in wow/lua? os.time() seems to be unavaible`
`22:03.39`	`Tifi`	`so it's more about multithreading than scheduling?`
`22:04.26`	`nevcairiel`	`dieck: os.date() should be there`
`22:04.26`	`Dashkal`	`Tifi: Not really, most tasks can be completed in one go, I just don't want to do more than one at a time before giving control back to wow`
`22:05.27`	`Dashkal`	`If a task is going to take a long time, I (and this isn't decided yet) can just use a coroutine and keep invoking it each pulse until it's done`
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`22:05.29`	`dieck`	`attempt to index global 'os' (a nil value)`
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`22:05.35`	`nevcairiel`	`dieck: actually its date(), not os.date()`
`22:05.54`	`dieck`	`ah, ok. I was looking for time() though, I'll try that without os. ;)`
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`22:06.18`	`nevcairiel`	`time works too`
`22:06.20`	`Dashkal`	`but the only really long tasks I see will have to do with crypto, and I'm not going to implement that kind of security until Nexus is well underway`
`22:06.32`	`Dashkal`	`My skill is simply not up to that`
`22:07.26`	`Josh_Borke`	`Dashkal: i don't think you need to go as complicated as coroutines`
`22:07.45`	`Josh_Borke`	`if your tasks conform well to simple "do this" type things then you could use an onupdate`
`22:08.02`	`Josh_Borke`	`a simple onupdate i should say. coroutines are useful for keeping state between breaks`
`22:08.20`	`Dashkal`	`Josh_Borke: I just used that as an example. I won't make a decision about how to handle that until I actually find myself needing to do things that have to split their work up`
`22:08.26`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61328 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Even cleaner, and probably actually works now, I hope.`
`22:08.50`	`Dashkal`	`Josh_Borke: But an example of a case where I would use a coroutine to simply things would be for RSA key generation`
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`22:09.12`	`Dashkal`	`s/simply/simplify/`
`22:09.13`	`Josh_Borke`	`oh dear, rsa`
`22:09.20`	`Josh_Borke`	`anyway, i'm out`
`22:09.21`	`Josh_Borke`	`bye`
`22:09.29`	`Dashkal`	`heh, scared him off`
`22:10.02`	`Dashkal`	`still, RSA is waaaaaayyy down the line. Not entirely sure I'll ever need to implement it, so it's just in the design notes for now`
`22:10.20`	`CIA-12`	`03poull * r61329 10PallyPower/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`22:10.20`	`CIA-12`	`PallyPower:`
`22:10.20`	`CIA-12`	`- Added individual keys for auto buffing greater and normal blessings.`
`22:10.54`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61330 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: incrementing counters gets you places`
`22:12.03`	`break19`	`someone remind me.. whats the lua command to get the name of a frame in game?`
`22:15.38`	`nevcairiel`	`frame:GetName()`
`22:16.28`	`break19`	`tnx`
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`22:20.38`	`[SW]Dodge`	`yes! :D got svn access happy`
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`22:26.33`	`Snago`	`[SW]Dodge: Remember... With great power comes great responsibility :P`
`22:27.01`	`break19`	`meh, bump that.. make easter eggs in random addons!@`
`22:27.02`	`[SW]Dodge`	`yea :)`
`22:27.45`	`Dashkal`	`rofl`
`22:28.04`	`[SW]Dodge`	`i'll hack some troajans in the most used addons like ora, bigwigs etc to get total controll over the wow world muahahahahaha XD`
`22:28.19`	`[SW]Dodge`	`well... not really^^`
`22:29.09`	`NeoTron`	`does pallypower work better than smartbuff (for.. pallies)?`
`22:29.16`	`CIA-12`	`03roartindon * r61331 10Aloft/ (. Aloft.toc Modules/Banzai.lua Options/Modules/Banzai.lua): Aloft: Updated to LibBanzai-2.0`
`22:29.20`	`NeoTron`	`smartbuff has this annoying tendence to rebuff a buff I already hav eon me. repeatedly.`
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`22:32.07`	`chiper`	`ckknight: ohhh, now I see why you thought that spacing thing would be hard. you're handling each button independantly`
`22:32.12`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61332 10Chinchilla/ (Chinchilla.toc embeds.xml libs/ locale/frFR.lua):`
`22:32.12`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla:`
`22:32.12`	`CIA-12`	`- Added frFR locale`
`22:32.12`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated embeds (LibRockLocale-1.0 was missing)`
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`22:33.28`	`ckknight`	`thank you Mr. French man`
`22:33.44`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`22:33.53`	`Hjalte`	`ckknight: Is the minimap always unlocked, with Chinchilla?`
`22:34.13`	`ckknight`	`yes, if you'd like a lock option, please submit a jira ticket`
`22:34.17`	`ckknight`	`I'll fix it tonight`
`22:34.21`	`ckknight`	`but I won't remember otherwise`
`22:34.33`	`NeoTron`	`Irony: The first warlock in the guild to get 4 pieces T6 is the worst warlock.`
`22:35.03`	`Hjalte`	`NeoTron: Do you have a big difference in damage between the worst and the best warlock?`
`22:35.29`	`NeoTron`	`Hjalte: it's noticeable but it's not just pure DPS`
`22:35.35`	`NeoTron`	`but mainly non-dps things`
`22:36.04`	`NeoTron`	`like on Akama, after many prior kills, he was dpsing the adds you don't actually kill... all by himself...`
`22:37.07`	`NeoTron`	`he's not bad - all our warlocks are solid and top-dpsers`
`22:37.12`	`NeoTron`	`he's just the least good :)`
`22:37.12`	`Hjalte`	`NeoTron: Oh, that kind of worst warlock...`
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`22:38.13`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61333 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Mikma says check for boomkin`
`22:38.21`	`break19`	`heh chinchilla.. sounds a lot like a local "hicktown" here.. Chunchula.`
`22:38.22`	`mikma`	`lol`
`22:39.13`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61334 10CoolDownButtons/ (11 files in 2 dirs):`
`22:39.13`	`CIA-12`	`CoolDownButtons: initial commit`
`22:39.13`	`CIA-12`	`- Display your Cooldowns as Buttons :)`
`22:39.13`	`CIA-12`	`- <3 Kaelten (Thx 4 svn access)`
`22:39.23`	`[SW]Dodge`	`=)`
`22:39.29`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`22:39.34`	`break19`	`i like playin pallies.. you can chat on irc while you auto-attack, and occassionally go back to refresh seal of light.`
`22:39.43`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lol you are here :D`
`22:40.53`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten never actually leaves`
`22:40.56`	`ckknight`	`he just lurks`
`22:40.58`	`ckknight`	`...constantly`
`22:41.01`	`Kaelten`	`:P`
`22:41.03`	`[SW]Dodge`	`:)`
`22:41.08`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten: no u`
`22:42.44`	Funkeh`	`ckknight, bit like you then eh?`
`22:42.59`	`ckknight`	`I have never left you, child`
`22:43.18`	Funkeh`	`sorry, i'm not your child`
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`22:44.24`	`ckknight`	`sad.`
`22:44.31`	`ckknight`	`I had all these presents to give you, too`
`22:44.41`	`ckknight`	`guess they'll just have to go to orphans who won't appreciate em`
`22:44.57`	`break19`	`can I be an orphan?`
`22:45.03`	Funkeh`	`I'd rather they go to orphans`
`22:45.17`	Funkeh`	`Then again, they may explode, so maybe not`
`22:45.18`	`break19`	`again.. can I be one? I need presents :/`
`22:45.24`	`Chompers`	`if its hugz, fisker would like them`
`22:45.33`	`Chompers`	`espically without pants`
`22:45.47`	Funkeh`	`Fisker-, likes anything without pants`
`22:46.00`	`Chompers`	`espically dudes`
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`22:47.13`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61335 10BasicMinimap/ (BasicMinimap.toc Locales/frFR.lua):`
`22:47.13`	`CIA-12`	`BasicMinimap:`
`22:47.14`	`CIA-12`	`- Added frFR locale`
`22:48.42`	`sb_`	`[SW]Dodge: screenshot!!`
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`22:49.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`http://dodgex.servegame.com/cdb.jpg`
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`22:49.27`	`sb_`	`hmm`
`22:49.37`	`sb_`	`enable those things + hide all bars... hmmm`
`22:49.38`	`sb_`	`:p`
`22:50.03`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61336 10CoolDownButtons/ (. embeds.xml):`
`22:50.03`	`CIA-12`	`CoolDownButtons:`
`22:50.03`	`CIA-12`	`- Set externals`
`22:50.03`	`CIA-12`	`- embeds.xml fixed :)`
`22:52.02`	`break19`	`hm, I suppose I should modify tb2fu to use embeds.xml instead of listing the externals' .lua files in the .toc file. heh`
`22:52.10`	`break19`	`im just feeling lazy atm`
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`22:53.43`	`CIA-12`	`03sylvanaar * r61337 10Prat_WIM/WIM.lua: Prat_WIM: Remove the channelname text from the displayed whispers.`
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`22:54.24`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: heh.. I just used the channelname replace module, and made it blank anyway.. :)`
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`22:55.01`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, thats how mine is - but some ppl use <to> and <from> in thier normal chat, but dont want it in wIM`
`22:55.21`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: I do notice one funky thing tho.. whenever I log in, my wim window is always in the "default" location instead of where I'd moved it to.. the original wim didnt have that... seems funky.`
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`22:56.40`	`break19`	`meh.. damn battery fell out when I moved my laptop.. did ya respond to my "funky thing" ? heh`
`22:56.45`	`sylvanaar`	`break19 idk, i dont see why that would be - they are virtually the same`
`22:56.53`	Funkeh`	`i should copyright the word funky`
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`22:57.19`	`break19`	`kk.. i dunno.. i'll give it a lookover in a bit, see if anytihng catches my eye.. but right now I gotta feed my little girl. :) bbl`
`22:57.31`	`sylvanaar`	`break19 in fact i know that mine saves its position - something wierd - make sure you have disabled the old wim`
`22:57.36`	`NightHawkAtWork`	funky (c) Funkeh` 2008.
`22:57.59`	Funkeh`	`NightHawkAtCemetery`
`22:58.16`	Funkeh`	`;p`
`22:58.23`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`:P`
`22:58.58`	`sylvanaar`	i wonder if Funkeh` is in fact funky irl
`22:59.24`	`nevcairiel`	`most people are not what they name themself`
`22:59.32`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`well, he is a funkydude?`
`22:59.50`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`nevcairiel: does that mean I'm not at work!? WOOOOOO... flee`
`22:59.58`	Funkeh`	`heh`
`22:59.59`	`sylvanaar`	`i am not an elven city in outlands`
`23:00.02`	`nevcairiel`	`suffixes dont count :P`
`23:00.04`	Funkeh`	`rofl`
`23:00.08`	`Chompers`	`my first name is Chompers`
`23:00.12`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`nevcairiel: hater.`
`23:00.14`	`Chompers`	`100% true`
`23:00.15`	`durcyn`	`Chompers McGee, he's right.`
`23:00.35`	`nevcairiel`	`chompers is a valid name?`
`23:00.37`	`nevcairiel`	`poor you`
`23:00.58`	Funkeh`	`theres such a thing as valid names?`
`23:01.08`	`Snago`	`Snago is spellt with the same buttons on a cellphone as my first name :)`
`23:01.16`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`23:01.21`	Funkeh`	`what the hell`
`23:01.22`	`Snago`	`(Guess my first name) ;)`
`23:01.37`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`I'd check my phone, but my phone actually has a proper querty keyboard`
`23:01.47`	`Kivin`	`same :p`
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`23:02.00`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin_] by ChanServ`
`23:02.03`	Funkeh`	`is it 76246`
`23:02.04`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`qwerty, as well, where the fuck did that u come from?`
`23:02.09`	Funkeh`	`as in a robot`
`23:02.14`	`sylvanaar`	`thats not a valid name`
`23:02.32`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`... Snago is a robot! He's going to kill us all!`
`23:03.26`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`heehee http://www.secondose.com/bear-attack/`
`23:04.04`	Funkeh`	`is that you?`
`23:04.14`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`... yes, i'm the small white one.`
`23:04.24`	`Kivin`	`xD`
`23:04.26`	Funkeh`	`oh, i thought you were the rock in the background`
`23:04.42`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`no, but I see how you could be easily confused`
`23:04.50`	Funkeh`	`yeah`
`23:08.34`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkAtWork: cute`
`23:09.41`	`Antiarc`	`" Addons do not use the internet. They affect the UI which is local to your computer. The data sent between the client and the server would not be impacted by addons any more differently than you using the wow client with no addons."`
`23:09.49`	`Antiarc`	`(I synch threat via carrier pidgen)`
`23:10.10`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`gah, stupid people. QA Guy: "When are you going to get fixes for <such and such> in?" Me: "When i fucking figure out what's wrong, now shoo."`
`23:10.27`	`*** join/#wowace mykx (n=Shelton@host-84-9-81-124.dslgb.com)`
`23:10.38`	`Antiarc`	`I often think that programmers' biggest failing is that we make things look like magic too often`
`23:10.50`	`Dashkal`	`Antiarc: nodnog`
`23:10.52`	`Pheredhel`	`meh ?`
`23:10.53`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc: who says that?`
`23:10.59`	`ckknight`	`the addons do not use the internet one`
`23:11.09`	`Antiarc`	`ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665558377&sid=1`
`23:12.14`	Funkeh`	`Antiarc, still, i don't see threat using 15gb`
`23:12.49`	`Antiarc`	Funkeh`: Nah, but addons can consume decent bandwidth
`23:13.14`	Funkeh`	`i don't think there ar really addons that would suck your bandwidth so much you need to worry about caps`
`23:14.02`	`Antiarc`	Funkeh`: You obviously never took a look at DoTimers traffic :P
`23:14.14`	Funkeh`	`Antiarc, I was the one that told you about it`
`23:14.17`	`pastamancer`	`haha`
`23:14.22`	Funkeh`	`and I mean in existance now`
`23:14.33`	`Hjalte`	`I never understood why DoTimer had to send anything to anyone, so I didnt install that module.`
`23:14.39`	`Antiarc`	`Pff, details >_>`
`23:14.51`	`Antiarc`	`Recount can be pretty heavy`
`23:14.55`	`Antiarc`	`Or was last time I looked`
`23:15.11`	`Tifi`	`dotimer doesn't do that anymore, Hjalte`
`23:15.15`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`DoTimer is the only mod that beats Recount AND Thread-1.0 in sync traffic`
`23:15.15`	Funkeh`	`I started the crusade against dotimer at ej and he actually changed it so woohoo`
`23:15.23`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`when summed up !`
`23:15.26`	`*** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85-127-128-125.static.xdsl-line.inode.at)`
`23:15.35`	Funkeh`	`not anymore i'm sure`
`23:15.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hm`
`23:15.47`	`Antiarc`	`Threat-1.0 isn't THAT bad considering the amount of traffic that it has to send`
`23:15.56`	`Tifi`	`tell ppl to update their dotimer if they are still spamming the raid`
`23:15.56`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`agreed`
`23:16.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Poul\|Raider = Poull = the guy who did the single blessings code in pallypower ?`
`23:16.05`	Funkeh`	`the worse is by far recount to be honest`
`23:16.15`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`but the amount dotimer was syncing ... no way thar`
`23:16.25`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`that was all useful data`
`23:16.25`	`Antiarc`	`dotimer was pretty amazing`
`23:16.35`	Funkeh`	`sit in a 25 man raid with 24 recount users see how low your fps gets form all that processing ;p`
`23:16.39`	`Poul\|Raider`	`sag_ich_nicht, nope`
`23:16.40`	`Antiarc`	`haha`
`23:16.43`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well fuck`
`23:17.06`	`Antiarc`	`Among the flurry of details released today about Spore, coming September 7th for the PC, one interesting tidbit might have been missed along the way. When you create your custom alien race, spaceship, or vehicles in Spore, you can upload videos of them to your Youtube account with just one click from inside Spore.`
`23:17.07`	`Antiarc`	`:O`
`23:17.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`anyone bored enough to unethically do a change to pallypower disabling the retarded "smart" buff code for single/custom blessings?`
`23:17.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it's fucking me over hard in raids`
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`23:17.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`see my post here: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3738/#comment_330534`
`23:17.55`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: that is interesting in a way`
`23:18.24`	`NeoTron`	Funkeh`: wait, waht DoTimer doesn't suck anymore?
`23:18.25`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`ptr patch downloading (35mb)`
`23:18.26`	`silentium`	`actually pally power works well for me and I do like the new smart buff feature - branch it if you dont like it :p`
`23:18.36`	`NeoTron`	`I mean I like the functionaity but man it's implemented badly at times..`
`23:18.37`	Funkeh`	`NeoTron, you tell me, never used it`
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`23:18.51`	`NeoTron`	`I turned off the sharing because it was .. err. verbose`
`23:19.30`	`Tifi`	`did anyone ever notice the elapsed parameter in OnUpdate(f, elapsed) reporting bogus values in the first frames after a reload?`
`23:19.39`	Funkeh`	`why do people bitch about WAU and vista 32 i'm using it just fine`
`23:21.08`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[00:18] <silentium> actually pally power works well for me and I do like the new smart buff feature - branch it if you dont like it :p <--read my post retard`
`23:21.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`becuase you obviously DIDN'T.`
`23:21.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`RTFA`
`23:21.34`	`Antiarc`	`New PTR patch us up.`
`23:21.40`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc: I need a diff!`
`23:21.46`	`silentium`	`I refuse to discuss with ppl who call me names in their fist sencence towards me, grow up`
`23:21.47`	`Antiarc`	`kd3 is working on it`
`23:21.54`	`ckknight`	`naux!`
`23:22.18`	`kd3`	`~5/34MB. should be done in ~3 minutes`
`23:22.27`	`Antiarc`	`Huh, I'm already downloaded`
`23:22.30`	`ckknight`	`kd3: I'm already downloaded`
`23:22.32`	`Antiarc`	`Was very fast, almost 1mb/sec for me`
`23:22.43`	`kd3`	`ya, it's getting faster now. well-seeded torrents are <3`
`23:22.45`	`[SW]Dodge`	`can someone tell me how i can add an external image to a wiki page or upload an image to the wiki? :X`
`23:22.58`	`kd3`	`http://<wiki>/Special:Upload`
`23:23.24`	`[SW]Dodge`	`thank you :)`
`23:23.36`	Funkeh`	`anyone doing a diff?`
`23:23.41`	`kd3`	`will be in a sec`
`23:23.50`	`kd3`	`22/34...`
`23:24.11`	Funkeh`	`hopefully the icons in chat thing is implemented`
`23:24.15`	Funkeh`	`need to start testing that`
`23:25.15`	`rubik`	`teh PTR is dead to me as long as i keep seeing this: " The character copy queue is currently full. "`
`23:25.17`	`Antiarc`	`Mm, servers aren't up yet`
`23:26.32`	`Snago`	`bah, connection timeout to the tracker :(`
`23:26.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[00:21] <silentium> I refuse to discuss with ppl who call me names in their fist sencence towards me, grow up <--"call you names"? you grow up retard, as long as you aren't capable of even reading the whole sentence of someone you WILL be mentally retarded, sorry to tell you :)`
`23:26.39`	`Dashkal`	`rubik: be very persistant with the f5 key... but you have to do it between 2am and 2pm PST (it's 3:30 PST now)`
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`23:26.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`fucking moron`
`23:26.52`	`ShindouHikaru`	`is there a beta omen that works for 2.4 ptr yet?`
`23:27.05`	`ShindouHikaru`	`and/or dmg meter? (like SWstats or recount)`
`23:27.06`	`Antiarc`	`No`
`23:27.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres a recount that does`
`23:27.41`	`rubik`	`Dashkal: i've been trying at all hours of the day/night and i did get a bit further along a few times but it keeps dying one way or another. :P`
`23:28.03`	`Dashkal`	`rubik: Ouch, I just kept at the f5 key during the window (Bornakk mentioned the time window) and eventually got through`
`23:28.40`	`ShindouHikaru`	`link to the recount?`
`23:28.45`	`rubik`	`the few times i got through, i got to where it lets me pick my toon and confirm it.. then it errors again.. then i do it all over and keeps erroring.. eventually, i get the "queue full" msg`
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`23:30.36`	`Dashkal`	`nods I was clicking as quickly as I could when I got at the list`
`23:30.44`	`Dashkal`	`I didn't want to risk it closing on me again`
`23:31.24`	`rubik`	`hehe.. gotcha. i'll keep trying on and off`
`23:31.55`	`Dashkal`	`Good luck to you. I was thinking for sure I'd have to wait a month`
`23:32.06`	`Dashkal`	`Now I'm just being very very careful with my mailbox... last thing I need is "failed" now`
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`23:33.12`	`Elsia`	`Recount for ptr: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10598/download/46770/`
`23:34.23`	`break19`	`Elsia should know.. afterall, she(?)'s codin it.. heh`
`23:39.56`	`Poul\|Raider`	`Have there been posted a full log someplace from ptr raid?`
`23:40.03`	`Chompers`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:40.15`	`Antiarc`	`?`
`23:40.17`	`Killmore`	`new ptr patch ?!`
`23:40.19`	Funkeh`	`Have combat log ranges been removed in 2.4`
`23:40.21`	`Killmore`	`34mo`
`23:40.23`	`Killmore`	`mb`
`23:40.25`	`Chompers`	`version checking in an AV game`
`23:40.32`	`Antiarc`	`Hahaha`
`23:40.33`	`Antiarc`	`Wow`
`23:40.36`	`Antiarc`	`That's a little behind`
`23:40.59`	`Chompers`	`people in the guild with oRA2 versions from last febuary`
`23:41.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`we still have druids that ora2 says have 30 minute battlereses`
`23:41.40`	Funkeh`	`thats ctra`
`23:41.46`	`Elsia`	`funky: yeah combat log ranges have been removed, anecdotal evidence is that the new fix default is at least 120 yards.`
`23:41.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`no its not`
`23:42.04`	Funkeh`	`gah`
`23:42.06`	Funkeh`	`should be 200`
`23:42.12`	`Antiarc`	`120 isn't too bad`
`23:42.13`	Funkeh`	`or zone based`
`23:42.18`	Funkeh`	`would make more sense`
`23:42.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`the druids havent updated`
`23:42.21`	`Elsia`	`"at least 120"`
`23:42.29`	`Elsia`	`I'm sure it's intended to be 200`
`23:42.45`	Funkeh`	`i'm just wondering how much syncing I can cu tout of bigwigs nw`
`23:42.51`	Funkeh`	`now*`
`23:42.55`	`Elsia`	`but I haven't seen any hard evidence yet, because I can't do proper testing on the PTR yet`
`23:42.55`	Funkeh`	`with a forced range`
`23:43.18`	`CIA-12`	`03crashkurs * r61338 10ImbeerenRaid/ (9 files in 3 dirs):`
`23:43.18`	`CIA-12`	`ImbeerenRaid:`
`23:43.18`	`CIA-12`	`initial commit`
`23:43.18`	`CIA-12`	`- Small Addon to save Raidsetups (who is in which group) to load it later on`
`23:43.33`	Funkeh`	`kd3, how goes it`
`23:43.46`	`Elsia`	`anyways, bed time for me, nite folks`
`23:43.49`	`kd3`	`ah, it's up. ckk's got a copy. one sec`
`23:43.50`	Funkeh`	`nn`
`23:44.01`	`kd3`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:46.02`	Funkeh`	`UnitClassBase("raid"..RAID_SUBGROUP_LISTS[index][1]); wtf`
`23:46.32`	`ckknight`	`hrm...`
`23:46.39`	`ckknight`	`yea, we should figure out what that does`
`23:46.44`	Funkeh`	`indeedy`
`23:46.45`	`ckknight`	`and be we, I mean someone besides myself`
`23:46.55`	`ckknight`	`let's guess`
`23:46.59`	`*** join/#wowace home\|prophy (n=prophy@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com)`
`23:47.04`	`ckknight`	what do you think it does, Funkeh`?
`23:47.12`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61339 10CoolDownButtons/ (. CoolDownButtons.toc):`
`23:47.12`	`CIA-12`	`CoolDownButtons:`
`23:47.12`	`CIA-12`	`- added X-Category and X-Website to .toc`
`23:47.12`	`CIA-12`	`- fixed externals (i hope so :/)`
`23:47.29`	Funkeh`	`maybe returns a number for the class or soething`
`23:47.41`	`ckknight`	`nah, it returns class, filename`
`23:47.43`	`ckknight`	`same as before`
`23:47.47`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`23:47.53`	`ckknight`	`could be a number, though`
`23:47.55`	`ckknight`	`shrug`
`23:47.56`	`ckknight`	`odd.`
`23:48.04`	`ckknight`	`perhaps it only works on players or something`
`23:48.11`	`ckknight`	`with mobs returning something else`
`23:49.09`	`break19`	`dodga: not quite. :)`
`23:50.35`	`break19`	`dodga: all paths should be delimited with a forward slash. "/" :)`
`23:54.19`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61340 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua:`
`23:54.19`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: bugfix`
`23:54.19`	`CIA-12`	`- BigWigs\Sunwell\Kalecgos.lua:326: ')' expected near 'i'`
`23:56.22`	`NeoTron`	`so I find this amusing: +ICON_TAG_RAID_TARGET_CIRCLE = "rt2"; -- Shortcut icon tag for Raid Target 2 (Circle)`
`23:56.39`	`NeoTron`	`how on earth could ICON_TAG_RAID_TARGET_CIRCLE be a... shortcut for rt2?`
`23:56.46`	`NeoTron`	`more descriptive alias, sure :P`
`23:56.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`its a globalstring`
`23:57.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`and they fucked it up imho`
`23:57.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`the rt# should always be the same nomatter what language`
`23:57.25`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster: howso?`
`23:57.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`or atleast for the languages that play on EU servers`
`23:57.46`	`ckknight`	`I agree`
`23:58.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`i didnt see anything for the {circle} {star} stuff but theyre probably just using the other globalstrings`
`23:58.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`the ones used in the dropdown menu`
`23:58.41`	`break19`	`[SW]Dodge: hey... the externals arent quite right yet...`
`23:59.11`	`break19`	`change your \'s to /'s and they will be. heh`

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