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| 00:00.28 | Shadowed | k you're screwed until 2.4 |
| 00:00.29 | Shadowed | but it'll be in then |
| 00:00.32 | Diao | lol |
| 00:00.46 | Diao | i'll be waiting for 2.4 then :P |
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| 00:03.25 | Orionshock | less than 12hrs of actual lvling, using routes and gathermate and cartographer for waypointing |
| 00:03.26 | Orionshock | 17:02:43 Your skill in Herbalism has increased to 375. |
| 00:03.28 | Trefane | anyone know the normal turnaround for getting an SVN account set up? |
| 00:04.33 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account |
| 00:05.01 | Trefane | ya, i read that. just wondered how long they usually took |
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| 00:05.51 | Diao | wow Orionshock wanna do it for me? |
| 00:05.53 | Diao | :P |
| 00:06.23 | Orionshock | Diao: DIAF |
| 00:06.31 | Diao | :( |
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| 00:10.46 | Estil | lol |
| 00:12.11 | CIA-12 | 03aentila 07Aentila * r61672 10Incubator/integration-1/Core.lua: |
| 00:12.11 | CIA-12 | Incubator: Integrate preserve-timers-over-reloadui fixes courtesy of Morgalm. |
| 00:12.11 | CIA-12 | Still looking at how best to add your FuBar functionality, Morg, since I think |
| 00:12.11 | CIA-12 | it'd be nice to have both FuBar and CandyBar functionality at the same time. |
| 00:18.31 | Gnarfoz | http://agnosticatheism.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/god-throne-absurd.jpg xD |
| 00:19.34 | Wobin | Gnarfoz: we all know what happens when something forces a conflict in Gods Word. I mean, I saw Dogma, It happens! |
| 00:19.42 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 00:20.17 | lagger | whats a function |
| 00:20.21 | lagger | that returns how much gold u have |
| 00:20.51 | exor674 | GetMoney() |
| 00:20.57 | Wobin | lagger: have a look at wowwikie |
| 00:21.02 | Wobin | er wiki |
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| 00:31.11 | Recluse | are 2.4 npc unit id's only present if the mob is in combat, or are they maybe given an id 'per spawn' or something? |
| 00:31.19 | Kivin | this guy just begged me for 81g. i dropped everything i have in a trade window then alt tabbed out. lesse how long he waits for me to click trade. |
| 00:31.44 | Baldor_work | that's awesome |
| 00:31.51 | Baldor_work | i timed one to 14 mins before |
| 00:31.55 | Kivin | rofl |
| 00:32.00 | Kivin | at 90 secs... |
| 00:32.10 | Kivin | Dugargruka: u ok? |
| 00:32.34 | Thorgard | Kivin, careful, you may have a seizure and accidentally hit the 'trade' button. |
| 00:32.38 | Kivin | rofl |
| 00:32.40 | Kivin | not happening |
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| 00:32.51 | Gnarfoz | he's tabbed out for a reason ;D |
| 00:32.57 | Kivin | I'm undecided, yet, which i like better. this, or misdirecting the cenarion emissary onto gold beggers |
| 00:33.17 | Gnarfoz | who? |
| 00:33.30 | Kivin | a 50 some NPC in orgrimmar that you can set yourself hostile to |
| 00:33.35 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 00:33.37 | Gnarfoz | heh neat |
| 00:33.46 | Kivin | trade still open |
| 00:33.47 | Gnarfoz | MD ftw |
| 00:33.52 | Kivin | yes... |
| 00:34.05 | Kivin | i've ganked two silly noobies with it so far |
| 00:34.09 | exor674 | lol I fail :D |
| 00:34.16 | exor674 | I opened both ends of a bag of skittles |
| 00:34.22 | Kivin | haha... |
| 00:34.34 | Gnarfoz | rofl |
| 00:34.38 | Kivin | you'll be finding them everywhere for days |
| 00:34.55 | Gnarfoz | which is kind of neat, too |
| 00:35.33 | CIA-12 | 03ixchael * r61673 10Historian/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:35.33 | CIA-12 | Historian: |
| 00:35.33 | CIA-12 | - Added 3 new tabs to the GUI window: Kills, Spells, and Levels. |
| 00:35.33 | CIA-12 | - The Kills tab is currently restricted to the top 500 mobs for performance reasons. |
| 00:35.33 | CIA-12 | - Spells will list all performed actions that are recognized as spells by the game. That includes some unexpected ones like LOGINEFFECT, scrolls used to learn recipes, etc. It will probably be filtered in the future. |
| 00:35.33 | Kivin | he just dropped a bottle of perfume into the trade in exchange for my gold :P |
| 00:35.37 | CIA-12 | - Levels tab will show the time and place you gained each level, provided that Historian was running at the time. |
| 00:36.27 | exor674 | change it to 81c and hit accept |
| 00:37.18 | Kivin | heh |
| 00:37.30 | Kivin | he just made it two perfumes |
| 00:37.34 | Kivin | what a deal.. |
| 00:37.36 | Camci | There is an wowace addon called coolDown. I was using it for a while but it suddenly stopped working for 1-2 weeks ago, thought it was broken and come back after some update but it hasnt come back yet... anyone know whats with it? |
| 00:39.24 | sag_ich_nicht | okay short question, is this a known bug or not: |
| 00:39.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [2008/02/16 23:44:49-1131-x1]: SimpleCombatLog-1.3.0.54892\core.lua:394: attempt to index local 'color' (a nil value) |
| 00:39.24 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.37 | Kivin | never got that one, myself |
| 00:40.23 | Kivin | what called rgbToHex in the stack trace? |
| 00:40.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't reproduce it |
| 00:40.32 | sag_ich_nicht | that IS the stacktrace |
| 00:40.38 | Kivin | *blink* |
| 00:40.42 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the retarded thing about it |
| 00:40.57 | Kivin | that's was thrown from a local function... very weird. |
| 00:41.20 | Kivin | return string.format("%02x%02x%02x",color.r*255,color.g*255,color.b*255) |
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| 00:43.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it hasn't affected functionality afai can see, but it's rather weird, and i don't know what causes itt |
| 00:43.07 | sag_ich_nicht | -t |
| 00:43.56 | Ellipsis | itt: sag_ich_nicht fail |
| 00:44.09 | Ellipsis | see what I did thar :D |
| 00:44.47 | Snago | ~emulate sag_ich_nicht |
| 00:44.47 | purl | yes because i am retarded |
| 00:44.54 | Camci | :P |
| 00:45.19 | Snago | :) |
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| 00:46.24 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 00:47.13 | sag_ich_nicht | how would one state a state of lonelyness without looking like a retarded emokid |
| 00:47.25 | Kivin | o.o |
| 00:47.36 | sag_ich_nicht | *loneliness |
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| 00:47.53 | Ellipsis | raep solves everything |
| 00:48.02 | Trefane | sing it |
| 00:49.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i'd raep you but then ckknight would try to kill me |
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| 00:50.04 | Ellipsis | you could take him |
| 00:51.07 | sag_ich_nicht | no, because he has weapons and does way more sport than i do |
| 00:51.41 | JoshBorke | that's why you surprise them in their sleep and tie him up |
| 00:51.42 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:51.47 | sag_ich_nicht | (hint: i might be lying at any given moment) |
| 00:51.55 | Ellipsis | ooh, I like JoshBorke's idea |
| 00:52.00 | Ellipsis | I might even help if we can do dirty things |
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| 00:52.25 | sag_ich_nicht | oh also |
| 00:52.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis have an SVN account yet? |
| 00:52.32 | sag_ich_nicht | *a |
| 00:52.33 | Ellipsis | yup |
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| 00:53.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: willing to do an unethic commit to pallypower for me? :P |
| 00:53.43 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 00:53.49 | sag_ich_nicht | don't have an svn account |
| 00:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | *a |
| 00:53.52 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: got a patch? |
| 00:53.54 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 00:54.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: just comment lines 662 to 666 |
| 00:54.13 | Gnarfoz | I couldn't really find where in the code it does that stuff |
| 00:54.13 | sag_ich_nicht | you really need a patch for that? :P |
| 00:54.21 | Gnarfoz | no, I won't commit *that* |
| 00:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | PallyPower.lua lines 662 to 666 |
| 00:54.52 | Gnarfoz | rather make it toggleable, ask one of the authors if they are fine with it and then commit ;) |
| 00:54.56 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 00:55.01 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 00:55.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i cba |
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| 00:55.07 | sag_ich_nicht | so i'll just keep my local fix :P |
| 00:55.07 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 00:55.19 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: I sure would! |
| 00:55.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ~cake |
| 00:55.22 | purl | the cake is a lie! |
| 00:55.24 | Gnarfoz | but I'll have a look at it now that I've got line numbers ;) |
| 00:56.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: comment lines 662 to 666 in PallyPower.lua, but you'll probably get flamed (don't blame me in the commit log :P) |
| 00:56.16 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: it back patched my client |
| 00:56.20 | ckknight | not happening |
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| 00:56.30 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: i know it does that |
| 00:56.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:55] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: I sure would! |
| 00:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | wait what |
| 00:57.01 | sag_ich_nicht | what did you mean then ckknight |
| 00:57.02 | Orionshock | but it's patching 2.3-enEN not FR |
| 00:57.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Orionshock that is normal |
| 00:57.19 | sag_ich_nicht | als you mean enGB |
| 00:57.32 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: Ellipsis: i'd raep you but then ckknight would try to kill me |
| 00:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 00:57.44 | ckknight | Orionshock: enGB |
| 00:57.48 | Orionshock | no i grabbed the frFR lang pack off the EU site, while im on a US server |
| 00:58.01 | sag_ich_nicht | there is no enEN patch |
| 00:58.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm very certain of that. |
| 00:58.13 | Orionshock | enUS then :P |
| 00:58.46 | Arrowmaster | no its patching enGB |
| 00:58.57 | sag_ich_nicht | still, it's normal that it patches the "main" package |
| 00:59.15 | Orionshock | no the file says WoW-2.3.0-enUS-patch.exe |
| 00:59.21 | sag_ich_nicht | that's normal |
| 00:59.25 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: do you have an eu account or us? |
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| 00:59.34 | Orionshock | ... sadly US |
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| 00:59.40 | Arrowmaster | dont bother |
| 00:59.41 | sag_ich_nicht | he has an US account but installed the frFR local pack |
| 00:59.45 | Arrowmaster | the enus patch wont work |
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| 00:59.52 | Arrowmaster | ive tried it all |
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| 01:00.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis fix your connection |
| 01:00.05 | Arrowmaster | the patch wont work if you have a language pack installed |
| 01:00.09 | Orionshock | ... |
| 01:00.25 | Orionshock | do the US install CD's have another language pack on them? |
| 01:00.28 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:00.33 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.51 | Arrowmaster | you have to use an EU client to use language packs |
| 01:01.01 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: fix your mom |
| 01:01.03 | Arrowmaster | or copy them from an EU client and delete them before patching |
| 01:01.07 | Ellipsis | hotel wireless ftl |
| 01:01.20 | Ellipsis | and ckknight won't let me use the good wireless network because I killed it last time I tried :( |
| 01:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: she is already fixed |
| 01:02.04 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61674 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: Add temporary variable (remove after 2.4), to stop spam and prevent triggering the trash mob's knock away. |
| 01:02.22 | Chompers | 19k honor in one day, not doing that again |
| 01:02.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis PROTIP:: add a switch to the connection that ckknight uses and leech from it |
| 01:02.27 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: how? |
| 01:02.27 | sag_ich_nicht | -: |
| 01:02.31 | Chompers | espically on a character in greens :/ |
| 01:03.05 | thul | hmm, I'm grossly out-dpsing locks and mages on my enhancement shaman in sp :-( |
| 01:03.06 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: we have limited hardware here... |
| 01:03.25 | Ellipsis | he's using the only wireless network here that doesn't suck |
| 01:03.25 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: either use an EU client and not be able to play for a day between patches or install an EU client somewhere with the language packs and copy the language folders out from the data dir to the us client |
| 01:03.47 | Ellipsis | he was gonna share the connection with me but we're too lazy to find a crossover cable |
| 01:04.04 | ckknight | not we, just Ellipsis |
| 01:04.52 | Diao | you have limited hardware but multiple wireless networks? |
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| 01:05.04 | Ellipsis | we are leeching in the middle of the city |
| 01:05.04 | Ellipsis | so yes |
| 01:05.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: so recrimp a patchcable into a crossover |
| 01:05.43 | sag_ich_nicht | kids these days |
| 01:05.45 | sag_ich_nicht | geeez |
| 01:05.47 | mort | !points 1710 |
| 01:05.48 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 01:05.55 | mort | !rating 1710 |
| 01:05.56 | Xinhuan | 1710 rating gives 622(5s), 547(3s) and 472(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 01:06.30 | Orionshock | ...so in the launcher it has an option for languages, |
| 01:06.31 | Orionshock | Unable to verify the version of the game This may indicate a corrupted file or an interference avaec another program. Please visit at the address |
| 01:06.32 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I don't think ckknight brought a crimper |
| 01:06.33 | Orionshock | .... |
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| 01:06.55 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: yes i know, i told you it would fail to patch |
| 01:07.00 | Orionshock | ;\ |
| 01:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: since when do you need crimpers to crimp a cable |
| 01:07.06 | sag_ich_nicht | stop being so weak |
| 01:07.10 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 01:07.13 | Orionshock | u got a language pack somewhere i can dowload? |
| 01:07.18 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:07.20 | Ellipsis | I am weak though |
| 01:07.21 | Arrowmaster | i gave up on it |
| 01:07.27 | Arrowmaster | not worth the effort |
| 01:07.42 | Fisker- | i'm gonna crimp your cable |
| 01:07.43 | Orionshock | to get someone to upload their lang pack? |
| 01:07.56 | Arrowmaster | the packs are 500mb each |
| 01:08.01 | Fisker- | also how do you expect to crimp a cable without a tool? :o |
| 01:08.13 | Orionshock | 250 according to the site |
| 01:08.15 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 01:08.21 | Arrowmaster | 500mb+ after patching |
| 01:08.31 | Arrowmaster | those on the site are just the base 2.0.0 ones |
| 01:08.44 | Orionshock | aye |
| 01:09.14 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:08] <Fisker-> also how do you expect to crimp a cable without a tool? :o <--raw finger power |
| 01:09.19 | Arrowmaster | install the EU client on another computer |
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| 01:09.29 | Fisker- | i don't know anyone with <5mm fingers |
| 01:09.40 | Orionshock | don't have a EU client to install :\ |
| 01:10.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Orionshock PROTIP |
| 01:10.10 | sag_ich_nicht | install the EU trial client |
| 01:10.12 | Arrowmaster | if you install the enGB language pack and change the realmlist.wtf to point to the eu version server you can get the eu patch |
| 01:10.24 | Arrowmaster | for 2.0.0 to 2.3.0 |
| 01:10.27 | sag_ich_nicht | or that |
| 01:11.49 | Arrowmaster | the us patch will fail if you have any language packs other than enUS installed so the only way to update them to work on live is with the enGB patch since it patches any language packs found (although probably not enUS) |
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| 01:12.46 | Orionshock | going to think about that.. |
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| 01:13.04 | Orionshock | but in the meantime i'll post on the US forums in the techsupport and see what i get :\ |
| 01:13.11 | Arrowmaster | you wont get anything |
| 01:13.21 | Orionshock | no harm in asking |
| 01:13.24 | Arrowmaster | the enUS client is not 'ment' to use other language packs |
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| 01:14.31 | Antiar1 | Us amerikuns don't speak none of those "weird" languages. |
| 01:14.34 | Orionshock | &? |
| 01:14.37 | Arrowmaster | most the techsupport for US probably doesnt even know its possible to copy the language packs over from an EU client and use them on a US client |
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| 01:15.21 | Orionshock | im sure they do, but are not going to admit it |
| 01:15.21 | Arrowmaster | although the only difference between an EU and US client is the language packs |
| 01:15.28 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:15.42 | Arrowmaster | most techsupport is stupid, most will not know its possible |
| 01:15.45 | thul | he |
| 01:15.54 | Orionshock | them blizzard blues are rather smart and quick on alot of things. but if they show it then the people would rape them |
| 01:16.21 | Orionshock | & TBH, im going to just download the frFR-EU client and test my addon |
| 01:16.28 | Orionshock | shouldn't be that hard. |
| 01:16.39 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:17.34 | Ellipsis | I has an internet! |
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| 01:18.04 | nevcairiel | for now |
| 01:18.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis congratulations. |
| 01:19.11 | Ellipsis | well I'm connecting through ckknight's computer now |
| 01:19.22 | Ellipsis | so if mine dies it's either becaues his died or because he bumped the cable |
| 01:19.57 | ccKep | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665561046&sid=1 <<< sometimes I'm just glad I don't have an US account to post... guess I'd spam facepalm all over the place |
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| 01:20.50 | nevcairiel | wait wait, didnt ckk like timeout every 10 minutes too? |
| 01:20.53 | nevcairiel | how does that help? |
| 01:21.00 | Orionshock | lol, im guessing at the french registration |
| 01:21.30 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61675 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Only try icon on 2.4 |
| 01:21.52 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: he did when he was on the fail connections |
| 01:22.07 | Ellipsis | now that the good network is back we should be ok |
| 01:22.44 | Orionshock | lol only 3gb |
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| 01:24.29 | Tuller | there's a bad network? oh no! |
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| 01:26.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight suggestion, rename fubar2 to fubar2 on the SVN, i just caught a user who got confused by thisd |
| 01:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | -d |
| 01:26.30 | nevcairiel | fubar2 to fubar2? |
| 01:26.31 | Hjalte | fubar2 to fubar2? that'll help a lot :) |
| 01:26.32 | nevcairiel | wtf :P |
| 01:26.42 | thul | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 01:26.43 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
| 01:26.53 | Tuller | muffins |
| 01:26.53 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 01:26.58 | sag_ich_nicht | fubar2 to fubar1 |
| 01:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 01:27.06 | nevcairiel | but its technically fubar2 |
| 01:27.14 | Hjalte | so is fubar. |
| 01:27.20 | Stanzilla | fubar is 3.0 |
| 01:27.22 | nevcairiel | FuBar is fubar 3 |
| 01:27.33 | Fin | Tuller: weird thing with Bagnon btw (not that this is a bug report really, just interesting, though I'd mention it :)) - I've just reinstalled Windows but haven't yet changed the Program Files path to C:\Programs as it used to be, and Bagnon can't see what's in my bank (also keeps resetting on UI reload) |
| 01:27.43 | Hjalte | it's confusing users, yeah. |
| 01:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | gah then rename fubar to fubar3, tl;dr version this stupid political bullshit is confusing users and should be fixed. |
| 01:27.51 | Fin | all sorts of weird things are happening with addons, but it's 80% working OK |
| 01:28.54 | nevcairiel | dunno why it was renamed from FuBarAce anyway .P |
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| 01:29.09 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61676 10Threat-2.0/ (4 files): Threat-2.0: Finish up some GUID conversion stuff |
| 01:29.20 | Ellipsis | ...he knocked out the cable. |
| 01:29.33 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 01:33.00 | Tuller | fin perhaps your saved variables are not saving? :) |
| 01:33.40 | Thorgard | Hmmm, anyone know if there's a cooldown timer such a this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9294.jpg out there? |
| 01:35.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Thorgard: well from where is that image |
| 01:35.40 | sag_ich_nicht | (that looks awesome btw) |
| 01:35.52 | Fin | Tuller: that looks like the problem :) but other addons seem to have loaded saved vars OK, I think... I didn't look too carefully though, maybe they were just the ones I used default on :) |
| 01:36.19 | Thorgard | sag_ich_nicht, it's Forte's Warlock thingie.. it has it as a module.. but it's a bunch of warlock-only stuff. ;P http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31 |
| 01:36.48 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61677 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: Add icons |
| 01:37.04 | Thorgard | It would be very hot as a 'standalone' cooldown timer for any class. :o |
| 01:37.24 | sag_ich_nicht | do want |
| 01:37.26 | Thorgard | Although, it does say "The cooldown timer works for every class (should at least, exept for changing color for powerup trinkets) so if you like this, and arent a warlock, you can still test it out :)" |
| 01:37.38 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r61678 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (Bartender4.lua Options.lua StanceBar.lua): Bartender4: option tweaks |
| 01:37.45 | Thorgard | I shall try it. |
| 01:38.07 | Fin | woo, BT4 |
| 01:38.13 | Fin | I wonder how close it is to being usable |
| 01:40.00 | Stanzilla | [---|----] |
| 01:40.15 | Fin | sword? or progress bar? |
| 01:40.28 | Stanzilla | progress bar :P |
| 01:40.33 | Stanzilla | and I just made it up |
| 01:40.39 | Fin | and, was that a flippant or - ah, kk |
| 01:41.14 | Fin | [-------|] |
| 01:41.44 | Fin | although, progress bars only ever show you how far that particular bar has filled up, generally speaking |
| 01:41.55 | Fin | they're great if you want to know how much the progress bar has progressed |
| 01:42.16 | Fin | also for seeing how much of the progress bar is left for the progress bar to progress |
| 01:43.20 | Fin | blue ones are pretty |
| 01:44.15 | Ellipsis | it's ok, Fin, the men in the white coats are your friends |
| 01:46.23 | Wobin | two by two |
| 01:46.26 | Wobin | hands of blue |
| 01:48.10 | Tinyboom | lol, logged on the ptr just for fun and there was 2 tauren warriors on the PVE realm:p pretty nice gear too:) |
| 01:50.24 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61679 10BigWigs/TheEye/ (Alar.lua Reaver.lua): BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: Add icons. |
| 01:50.34 | Tinyboom | char's armory:p http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Perkele |
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| 01:51.23 | RaydenU | so mangle is something i should use for the dot right? |
| 01:51.34 | RaydenU | or is it a good use of rage/energy for it's damage? |
| 01:51.43 | RaydenU | repalce claw? |
| 01:53.03 | SunTsu | RaydenU: It both is, more or less |
| 01:53.27 | RaydenU | so is there any reason to use claw nwo? |
| 01:53.43 | SunTsu | RaydenU: No, there's not |
| 01:54.14 | RaydenU | so just take it off my bar |
| 01:54.16 | mort | !rating 1541 |
| 01:54.17 | Xinhuan | 1541 rating gives 390(5s), 343(3s) and 297(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 01:54.54 | SunTsu | RaydenU: You normally use mangle, Rake, Rip and Shred |
| 01:55.16 | SunTsu | RaydenU: Mangle will give you bonus on bleeding damage |
| 01:55.48 | RaydenU | so now that i have mangle, should i use rip instead of ferociuos bite when i'm soloing? |
| 01:56.28 | SunTsu | RaydenU: That depends. If you can clearly see that the mob will survice ferocious bite: yes |
| 01:56.41 | RaydenU | ok |
| 01:57.19 | SunTsu | If you have another mob on you, use rip, because ferociuos bite will cost you all your energy, which will be a pity if you have to keep fighting |
| 01:59.06 | RaydenU | i realy like mangle |
| 01:59.32 | SunTsu | Yes, it's one of the best things you have as a feral druid |
| 02:00.09 | ulic | 02 |
| 02:02.10 | SunTsu | RaydenU: On lvl 62 you'll get maim, that's great, too. Kind of in combat stun, just like rogue's kidney shot but has some DoT to it. Even on mobs that are immune to the stun part and/or the bleeding part it most of the time can be used to interrupt spell casting |
| 02:02.41 | Orionshock | SunTsu: actualy no |
| 02:02.49 | SunTsu | Orionshock: Actually yes |
| 02:03.05 | Orionshock | it's more like gouge for rouges, and more often than not it dosn't interrupt casting -.- |
| 02:03.23 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.53 | SunTsu | Orionshock: It's a mixture between gouge and kidney shot |
| 02:03.55 | Snago | gouge breaks on damage though |
| 02:04.10 | Orionshock | so does maim |
| 02:04.24 | SunTsu | Snago: So does main, only it does not break on DoT |
| 02:04.29 | SunTsu | maim |
| 02:04.41 | Snago | oh, that's weird |
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| 02:05.07 | Orionshock | SunTsu: dosn't break on bleeds, but regular dots will :\ |
| 02:05.13 | SunTsu | Orionshock: interrupting works great for instance on TK trash, on Magtheridons trash |
| 02:05.14 | Orionshock | it's f-ed sideways |
| 02:06.55 | CIA-12 | 03wobin 07Ace3 * r61681 10MrPlow/: MrPlow - Fixed externals |
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| 02:07.25 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61682 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua): BigWigs: Sunwell: Use ID's for bar icons. |
| 02:07.40 | Wobin | as a hemo rogue, that is |
| 02:08.03 | SunTsu | Orionshock: No, regular DoTs should not break it, given the case, that they are on the mob already when maiming. Can't say for sure whether new DoTs will. wowwiki, too, states that DoTs should not break it |
| 02:09.04 | Jagobah | zomg errors <_< |
| 02:09.39 | Jagobah | hmmm threat-2.0 ! |
| 02:10.21 | Antiarc | If you're running Threat-2.0 you deserve what you get :) |
| 02:10.51 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r61683 10ReverseEngineering/ (Libs/ ReverseEngineering.lua ReverseEngineering.toc): ReverseEngineering - Completely unaced. Uneccessary overhead |
| 02:10.54 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61684 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Small upvalue for heavy bar situations |
| 02:11.42 | kenlyric | somebody probably made it required in their mod |
| 02:11.57 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r61685 10ReverseEngineering/Libs/: ReverseEngineering - Removed Libs folder |
| 02:12.32 | Stanzilla | 20003 toc, Wobin? :P |
| 02:12.39 | Wobin | oh yeah ta |
| 02:13.39 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r61686 10ReverseEngineering/ReverseEngineering.toc: ReverseEngineering - Damn toc versions |
| 02:19.16 | kenlyric | dear blizzard: tocs are dumb. the end |
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| 02:24.21 | *** join/#wowace Industrial (n=Industri@194.145.194.227) |
| 02:24.24 | Industrial | "Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again." |
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| 02:24.27 | Industrial | fuck you, error. |
| 02:24.35 | Industrial | I stab you in the face with a spork |
| 02:24.38 | Industrial | relogging does NOT |
| 02:24.39 | Industrial | help |
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| 02:24.54 | Industrial | going back, reloading the page and pressing "mark as read" however does |
| 02:25.09 | Industrial | which is entirely anoying |
| 02:25.10 | Aeyan | Haha, that's a good entrance |
| 02:26.16 | Industrial | this is anoying me to the point where I just close all wowace tabs when I see the error - which is every time |
| 02:26.22 | Industrial | shit SMF |
| 02:26.33 | Ellipsis | oh Industrial |
| 02:26.38 | Industrial | oh hi Ellipsis |
| 02:26.43 | Ellipsis | lolsup |
| 02:26.48 | Industrial | lolerror :( |
| 02:26.53 | Stanzilla | lol soup? |
| 02:26.57 | Ellipsis | lolwasn'tme |
| 02:26.57 | Industrial | I mean, notlol. |
| 02:27.31 | Ellipsis | I can has kiss it better? |
| 02:27.41 | Industrial | maybe :P |
| 02:28.12 | Ellipsis | well if you're not sure... |
| 02:28.56 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis likes kisses on the ass cheek |
| 02:29.00 | Stanzilla | *hides* |
| 02:29.11 | kenlyric | let me see |
| 02:29.17 | kenlyric | ~kenlyric |
| 02:29.18 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
| 02:29.20 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not all she likes on/in the ass |
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| 02:30.31 | CIA-12 | 03wobin 07Ace3 * r61687 10MrPlow/: |
| 02:30.31 | CIA-12 | MrPlow - Fixed externals. No really. |
| 02:30.31 | CIA-12 | ~lart mikma |
| 02:30.31 | purl | decapitates mikma conan the destroyer style |
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| 02:34.49 | dylanm | Never seen that before. |
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| 02:40.06 | mikma | Wobin: kekekeke |
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| 02:49.45 | Mudkipz | hi2us |
| 02:49.49 | Mudkipz | u's** |
| 02:52.53 | Kalroth | so i herd u liek mudkipz?? |
| 02:53.25 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r61688 10DaPortrait/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:53.25 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 02:53.25 | CIA-12 | - Fixed Random Bugs |
| 02:53.38 | mort | !rating 1710 |
| 02:53.39 | Xinhuan | 1710 rating gives 622(5s), 547(3s) and 472(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 03:00.27 | Arcaia | !rating 1898 |
| 03:00.28 | Xinhuan | 1898 rating gives 911(5s), 801(3s) and 692(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 03:00.30 | Arcaia | shiny. |
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| 03:11.49 | Antiarc | test |
| 03:11.55 | Antiarc | Just quiet in here, I guess |
| 03:12.11 | ulic | it's the weekend, everyone is raiding maybe |
| 03:12.17 | Antiarc | true enough |
| 03:12.34 | ulic | and for many in the US it's a 3day weekend. |
| 03:12.47 | Stanzilla | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-kitten-shoe-loled.jpg <3 |
| 03:13.12 | Stanzilla | it's actualy 4:12 am here..time for bed :) |
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| 03:14.52 | Wobin | oh man |
| 03:14.57 | Wobin | I will never get tired of catmacros |
| 03:15.20 | Wobin | It's like XKCD postulated |
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| 03:22.51 | Ellipsis | Industrial: your babies, I am having them. |
| 03:23.02 | Ellipsis | you don't get a say in the matter |
| 03:23.30 | aestil | liez |
| 03:23.41 | aestil | also, how's the new dmg meter coming? |
| 03:23.42 | JoshBork1 | you have my condolences Industrial |
| 03:23.47 | aestil | who ever is writing it. |
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| 03:24.19 | Ellipsis | I guess ckknight wasn't too happy about that comment |
| 03:24.47 | kenlyric | tell him to fuck off. |
| 03:24.57 | kenlyric | he dated a chick from the internet, he should know about e-babies |
| 03:25.01 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 03:25.09 | Ellipsis | I'm kidding, he isn't even reading IRC |
| 03:25.09 | ccKep | grid really needs a sandbox option (eg. show full roster) |
| 03:25.28 | kenlyric | he should also want to have industrial's babies if it's because of awesomeness |
| 03:25.49 | kenlyric | auction expired? FUCK YOU |
| 03:26.03 | kenlyric | buy my underpriced shit, you pleebs |
| 03:26.18 | aestil | i like that you called them pleebs |
| 03:26.27 | aestil | at least you're defamatory across the board. |
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| 03:27.19 | kenlyric | fun. 1 two of lunacy for 37g. one for 23g, and one for 20g. |
| 03:27.24 | kenlyric | Auctioneer value says: 49g |
| 03:27.29 | kenlyric | dumbass broken mod |
| 03:28.05 | aestil | its a historical price. |
| 03:28.07 | aestil | noob. |
| 03:28.11 | kenlyric | from three items? |
| 03:28.21 | kenlyric | I've never scanned this item before now |
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| 03:28.37 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61689 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: add icons |
| 03:28.42 | kenlyric | well, before yesterday. And the same three cards were up. |
| 03:28.49 | on1y | anyone have a good bags addon? baggins uses so much memory |
| 03:29.02 | aestil | baggins uses a fraction of what AI uses. |
| 03:29.03 | kenlyric | oh, I need a setting then that means "average of current prices" |
| 03:29.17 | aestil | but if you are only looking for an all in one bag, that doesn't do sorting, 'onebag' should work for you. |
| 03:29.29 | on1y | kk |
| 03:29.32 | aestil | are you running with embeded libs? |
| 03:29.52 | aestil | if you don't know the answer to that question, then the answer is almost certainly yes. |
| 03:30.09 | kenlyric | auk inventory would probably use less memory if it didn't try to cache what you have. |
| 03:30.20 | kenlyric | And didn't error out when you turned bag memory off. |
| 03:30.24 | aestil | in which case, there is a good chance that baggins, since it starts with 'b', is the first addon to load, and is being 'charged' with all the libs it needs to run, even though many other mods use those libs. |
| 03:30.37 | aestil | in which case, its not really taking up that much space, just looks like it is. |
| 03:30.53 | on1y | well when i turn baggins off as a mpd |
| 03:30.56 | on1y | mod |
| 03:31.01 | on1y | my game loads so mcuh faster |
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| 03:32.11 | JoshBork1 | get a new mod the |
| 03:32.14 | JoshBork1 | s/the/then/ |
| 03:32.32 | kenlyric | I believe that's what he asked about. |
| 03:32.35 | kenlyric | jerkface |
| 03:32.41 | JoshBork1 | engbags maybe? |
| 03:32.41 | kenlyric | pfffffrt |
| 03:32.47 | JoshBork1 | i only use combuctor |
| 03:33.14 | aestil | JoshBork you think you're so hot, using combuctor, but i twas too complicated for me!!!L!L!L!!! |
| 03:33.18 | kenlyric | I'd switch to baggins but I'm afraid it's dead. |
| 03:33.23 | aestil | i gotta go close the store real quick. be back in a few hours. |
| 03:33.27 | aestil | dead? |
| 03:33.38 | kenlyric | want something simple that doesn't remember what my bank/alt characters have. |
| 03:33.38 | aestil | its gonna be ace3 i thought? i coudla swore he said he was working on it. |
| 03:33.40 | aestil | right? |
| 03:33.44 | kenlyric | since I already have mods that do that. |
| 03:33.58 | aestil | baggins doesn't remember what my bank/alt has? |
| 03:33.59 | JoshBork1 | aestil: you fail at simple mods |
| 03:34.00 | aestil | i don't think. |
| 03:34.05 | JoshBork1 | neither does combuctor |
| 03:34.13 | aestil | JoshBork1 i didn't really try, i'm just making that part up. |
| 03:34.17 | Funkeh` | on1y, you should try combuctor |
| 03:34.23 | kenlyric | aestil: and baggins is being updated? |
| 03:34.27 | on1y | kk |
| 03:34.40 | aestil | i may be wrong, but i thought yes. |
| 03:34.47 | aestil | i'll check out combuctor. tullers mod right? |
| 03:35.11 | Ellipsis | :o |
| 03:35.27 | kenlyric | ooh, combuctor is out of alpha? |
| 03:35.29 | kenlyric | *swooon |
| 03:35.38 | kenlyric | I remember having to change my pants when he showed off the alpha |
| 03:36.04 | on1y | is combuctor an ace mod |
| 03:36.33 | kenlyric | it's a tuller mod |
| 03:36.37 | kenlyric | who cares |
| 03:36.59 | kenlyric | tuller, tekkub, cladhaire. LEARN2LUV! |
| 03:37.42 | on1y | what is tuller |
| 03:37.50 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.52 | on1y | i have only ever used ace |
| 03:37.55 | Industrial | what why this time |
| 03:37.59 | Industrial | (:D) |
| 03:39.19 | Gnarfoz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLVXmsbVwUs o_O wtb |
| 03:39.58 | mort | !rating 1800 |
| 03:39.59 | Xinhuan | 1800 rating gives 760(5s), 669(3s) and 578(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 03:40.13 | kenlyric | why doesn't it sound like harp? |
| 03:40.21 | kenlyric | why does it have to sound like battlestar galactica 1980? |
| 03:40.36 | kenlyric | sorry, logan's run |
| 03:42.20 | Tuller | that's what it sounded lik! |
| 03:42.23 | Tuller | err like! |
| 03:42.28 | kenlyric | severly undervaluing my two of lunacy has worked |
| 03:42.29 | Tuller | I was going with bad action movie from early 90s |
| 03:42.35 | Tuller | but not enough guitar |
| 03:43.05 | Gnarfoz | anyway, a home-built laser harp sure is nerdtastic |
| 03:43.51 | robotusch | laser harp? that's JMJ stuff |
| 03:44.08 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 03:44.14 | robotusch | jean michel jarre |
| 03:44.19 | Gnarfoz | it's whatever the dude in that video built^^ |
| 03:44.28 | robotusch | french electronic musician |
| 03:44.53 | Orionshock | wtb good ol'days of 40 man riads.... made life so much easier on leadership. |
| 03:44.57 | Ellipsis | Industrial: just you being your usual sexy troll self on the forums <3 |
| 03:45.04 | robotusch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6ckDYae2SY |
| 03:45.12 | thul | http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs28/i/2008/047/9/5/Getting_Ready__by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 03:45.13 | Gnarfoz | Orionshock: you mean because it didn't matter if you had 10-15 slackers in the raid? |
| 03:45.53 | Gnarfoz | robotusch: ah, yeah, I was just reading the construction log he posted, he mentions JMJ in there, too ^_^ |
| 03:45.54 | Orionshock | no |
| 03:46.01 | on1y | wow |
| 03:46.04 | on1y | http://tullamods.googlecode.com/files/Combuctor%20Beta%201.1.zip |
| 03:46.07 | on1y | is awesome |
| 03:46.21 | robotusch | though it's heavily debated if the one jmj uses is functional or not |
| 03:46.40 | Orionshock | when only 4-5 guilds doing raids, it FORCED the real Leadership of the Realm to be incharge, with 10mans and 25mans, the people who think they have the brass to lead to come out of the woodwork |
| 03:46.51 | Orionshock | it f's things up because most of the time they fail |
| 03:46.55 | Orionshock | and fail hard at it |
| 03:47.17 | Gnarfoz | robotusch: this dudes is, anyway, he even linked a vid showing his children operating it xD |
| 03:47.23 | Gnarfoz | http://www.stephenhobley.com/build/ |
| 03:47.59 | kenlyric | i can't find any options in this thing. |
| 03:48.02 | Gnarfoz | Orionshock: err for 25mans we still only have 4-5 guilds doing them :< |
| 03:48.18 | kenlyric | ah, it doesn't have any :/ |
| 03:48.36 | Orionshock | well ya, only 4-5 guild REALLY doing them but the next 5 suffer due to poor leadership |
| 03:49.05 | Gnarfoz | we're just a severly underpopulated rp pvp realm :< |
| 03:49.26 | Gnarfoz | we went from medium to low recently. maybe we'll be "recommended" again, soon. xD |
| 03:50.56 | RaydenU | is there a way to trash loot without looting ti first? |
| 03:51.07 | Orionshock | no |
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| 03:51.52 | RaydenU | that makes me sad |
| 03:52.38 | on1y | in combuctor is there a way to change size? |
| 03:52.43 | mort | !points 651 |
| 03:52.44 | Xinhuan | 651 arena points require 1729(5s), 1787(3s) and 1862(2s) team rating. |
| 03:52.54 | Tuller | on1y: nope! |
| 03:53.22 | on1y | hmm the bank bag is soo big |
| 03:53.34 | on1y | i cant see my trade skill window |
| 03:54.13 | Tuller | alt + right click it |
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| 03:55.06 | Hjalte | Hehe. The guy that the camera is following in the Vis Maior live raid, is using Recount :) |
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| 03:55.53 | on1y | yea, i know how to move it but the bank bag is realy big, the icons are 1.5 the size of the normal bags |
| 03:55.58 | RaydenU | live raid? |
| 03:56.00 | RaydenU | what? |
| 03:56.10 | Hjalte | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/vis-maior---sunwell-live-streaming-raid |
| 03:56.12 | on1y | let me see if i can change in the lui |
| 03:56.20 | RaydenU | and no furor sucks, but mangle is worth it |
| 03:56.21 | Hjalte | There might not be any free stream spots left though |
| 03:57.48 | on1y | foudn it |
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| 04:01.40 | on1y | tuller, where is the bank frame located |
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| 04:01.42 | Industrial | Ellipsis: xD |
| 04:01.53 | on1y | which lui file |
| 04:02.04 | Tuller | uhh... |
| 04:02.05 | on1y | i found the bank itme size |
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| 04:02.29 | on1y | now jsut need to change the frame size to match |
| 04:02.31 | Tuller | there's only the xml definition of the frame size + that to determine the size |
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| 04:04.05 | on1y | oh, well i cant seem to find it. |
| 04:04.22 | on1y | but if u get time it woudl be nice to be able to resize the bank froms |
| 04:04.32 | on1y | frame* |
| 04:04.53 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: ping |
| 04:06.46 | Orionshock | ... had to rename the launcher to install the EU client... urg.... |
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| 04:08.47 | alcaras | Anyone recommend a good, low addon message/low memory usage addon to get a mini report on why a party or raid member died? |
| 04:09.23 | Yssaril | i like assesment though it is definatly not low memory usage :P |
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| 04:09.53 | alcaras | yeah :-( |
| 04:09.56 | alcaras | recount and assessment both do it |
| 04:10.04 | alcaras | but both are kind of big, and do lots of other things beside |
| 04:10.12 | alcaras | expiration used to be just death stuff, but it was buggy when i tried it last |
| 04:10.46 | Yssaril | hmmm i used expiration before moving to assessment never had a problem with it |
| 04:11.01 | durcyn | Expiration is fine, but it records stuff like vampiric touch, so kind of less than useful |
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| 04:14.29 | alcaras | ah |
| 04:14.38 | alcaras | i saw expiration recrdo stuff after someone had been rezzed |
| 04:14.41 | alcaras | so someone would die |
| 04:14.45 | alcaras | then get rezzed |
| 04:14.48 | alcaras | then i'd look at why they died |
| 04:14.50 | alcaras | and not see info |
| 04:15.56 | durcyn | it's the last x number of lines for a character, period |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r61690 10DaPortrait/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-12 | - Added Buff Check on new target. |
| 04:22.26 | alcaras | so it only works if i look it RIGHT after someone dies? |
| 04:22.29 | alcaras | hrm :-/ |
| 04:23.12 | alcaras | In Assessment, is there a way to make it wider? I have the timestamps cut off, so it's 1... instead of 10.5s or whatever |
| 04:23.20 | alcaras | it = the column with time |
| 04:23.41 | alcaras | I suppose I can use Assessment and disable logging for everything but death |
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| 04:24.25 | xyu` | Is the only way to destroy an item from your pack to drag it out? |
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| 04:24.29 | Mudkipz | yes |
| 04:24.30 | xyu` | is there like some easier way? |
| 04:24.31 | xyu` | lame |
| 04:24.35 | Mudkipz | no |
| 04:24.39 | Mudkipz | it's a countermeasure |
| 04:24.42 | xyu` | it's tough when you're screen is full of crapola |
| 04:24.45 | Mudkipz | some dumb idiot would do something stupid |
| 04:24.48 | xyu` | and you need to drop something mid fight :p |
| 04:24.54 | Mudkipz | and complain that it's too easy to delete |
| 04:25.01 | Yssaril | xyu` you could write an addon to do it for you :P |
| 04:25.03 | alcaras | hi2u xyu` |
| 04:25.10 | xyu` | sup alc |
| 04:25.10 | alcaras | and you can shift-clikc with fu_garbagefu |
| 04:25.20 | xyu` | that'll work |
| 04:25.22 | alcaras | granted, it'll only destroy items on your list (default gray) |
| 04:25.38 | Kivin | how do i raise my GC threshold? |
| 04:26.14 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r61691 10DaPortrait/modules/Animations.lua: |
| 04:26.14 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 04:26.14 | CIA-12 | - Remove Debug Code |
| 04:26.29 | Yssaril | xyu`: if its on your cursor (your dragging it or have picked it up) you do /script DeleteCursorItem() |
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| 04:26.36 | xyu` | wooot |
| 04:26.38 | xyu` | that's what i want |
| 04:26.39 | Lukian | <alcaras> Anyone recommend a good, low addon message/low memory usage addon to get a mini report on why a party or raid member died? <- swstats logger :) |
| 04:27.16 | xyu` | grimreaper? jk! |
| 04:27.45 | Yssaril | have come to not like dmg meters that sync (there is no reason to really) it just increases bandwith load and gives everyone more stuff to process |
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| 04:28.41 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: ping |
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| 04:32.53 | Kivin | anyone know how to raise my GC threshold? |
| 04:34.49 | Yssaril | GC as in Garbage collect? |
| 04:35.06 | Kivin | yes |
| 04:35.16 | Yssaril | you want it to do it less often? |
| 04:35.20 | Kivin | truth |
| 04:35.38 | Yssaril | i dont think you can and why whould you? |
| 04:35.41 | Kivin | raiding, my addons seem to push my past a threshold where it collects every 30 seconds or so |
| 04:35.47 | Kivin | and i'm pretty sure you can |
| 04:36.25 | Lukian | Kivin, don't use so many (intensive) addons while raiding? :) |
| 04:36.35 | Kivin | Lukian: Umm nthx |
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| 04:36.46 | Kivin | actually, i think i found the problem |
| 04:36.47 | Lukian | Kivin, seriously, what are you running? |
| 04:36.49 | Lukian | hehe |
| 04:36.51 | Kivin | nothing, really |
| 04:36.56 | Kivin | my savedvars have been dissapearing lately |
| 04:36.57 | Kivin | for all addons |
| 04:37.04 | Lukian | zomg keylogger |
| 04:37.04 | Kivin | random settings keep going back to defaults |
| 04:37.07 | Kivin | ? |
| 04:37.20 | Yssaril | hmmm that isnt a GC problem |
| 04:37.25 | Kivin | buuuut |
| 04:37.35 | Kivin | my damage meter has a setting to force collect at the end of every fight |
| 04:37.53 | Kivin | and it got reset back to on =/ |
| 04:39.07 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r61692 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/ (Math.lua TextManip.lua): |
| 04:39.07 | CIA-12 | LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 04:39.07 | CIA-12 | - add [value:Len], which returns the length of a string, checking for UTF-8. |
| 04:39.07 | CIA-12 | - add [num:Abs], [num:Sign], [num:Max(num)], [num:Min(num)], [Pi], [num:Cos], [num:Sin], [num:Deg], [num:Rad], [E], [num:Ln], and [num:Log] |
| 04:39.22 | Yssaril | wierd but there u have bigger issues than your GC running to often usually the only time SV are not saved is when you crash |
| 04:39.31 | Yssaril | but they should just change on their own |
| 04:39.34 | CIA-12 | 03nemes * r61693 10Quartz/Pet/ (. Pet.lua Quartz_Pet.toc): Quartz: Add castbar for mindcontrolled and other pets |
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| 04:40.27 | alcaras | swstats is NOT lightweight |
| 04:40.28 | Kivin | I know... i have no idea what's causing it |
| 04:40.36 | Kivin | this is the fourth time i've noticed settings significantly awry |
| 04:40.38 | Kivin | in two days |
| 04:40.50 | Yssaril | all your addons uptodate? |
| 04:40.53 | Kivin | yes |
| 04:41.01 | Yssaril | what are u using? |
| 04:41.04 | Kivin | i update a couple times a week via WAU |
| 04:41.05 | Kivin | uhh |
| 04:41.15 | Arrowmaster | not using vista are you? |
| 04:41.20 | Kivin | no |
| 04:41.23 | Kivin | nothing set to read only |
| 04:42.00 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: vista is funkey with its program files folder :) turning uf UAC fixes it though :P |
| 04:42.20 | Arrowmaster | common knowledge |
| 04:42.28 | Kivin | if you're still interested: http://ace.pastey.net/82466 |
| 04:43.37 | Yssaril | hmmm use most of those myself |
| 04:43.52 | Yssaril | ahve you tried the reinstall feature in WAU? |
| 04:44.04 | Kivin | no? it shouldn't affect savedvars at all.. |
| 04:44.25 | Kivin | it's very weird |
| 04:44.29 | Yssaril | no but might fix a random addon that shouldnt be doing it either :) |
| 04:44.35 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021608_214341.jpg |
| 04:44.37 | Antiarc | FYIs :D |
| 04:44.39 | Kivin | first thing i noticed was the "Show Item Level" in AtlasLoot was turned on |
| 04:44.46 | Kivin | which i never use |
| 04:44.52 | Kivin | then my ratingbuster settings got all jumbled |
| 04:45.04 | Yssaril | Antiarc: NICE |
| 04:45.09 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: new gui? |
| 04:45.14 | Antiarc | Complete rewrite |
| 04:45.18 | Yssaril | new OMEN for 2.4 |
| 04:45.19 | Antiarc | The Omen codebase is kinda a mess |
| 04:45.21 | dylanm | Neato. |
| 04:45.26 | Antiarc | So I'm just rewriting the frontend. |
| 04:45.30 | Antiarc | Plus it'll be Ace3 |
| 04:45.34 | Antiarc | And Omen is Ace2 |
| 04:45.40 | Ellipsis | mmm, tastes like sexy |
| 04:46.22 | Arrowmaster | no more buggy being able to click invisable frames that shouldnt exist because theres nothing being displayed on that bar anymore? |
| 04:47.01 | Yssaril | Antiarc: you are missing the string that shows the threat-2.0 revision :) |
| 04:47.13 | Yssaril | more important than the omen one imo |
| 04:48.21 | Antiarc | Yssaril: That is going to be the threat revision, heh |
| 04:48.23 | Antiarc | In the upper right |
| 04:48.36 | Yssaril | ahh nm then :) |
| 04:48.36 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Correct, unless I manage to re-implement the bug in a fresh rewrite :P |
| 04:49.10 | Yssaril | lol put in a bug cause we are so used to it being there :P |
| 04:51.10 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r61694 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Math.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix [num:Sin] |
| 04:51.17 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021608_215045.jpg |
| 04:51.25 | Antiarc | To demonstrate that yes, ThreatLib is working :D |
| 04:51.58 | Arrowmaster | tps is broken |
| 04:52.12 | Antiarc | I haven't connected those dots yet :P |
| 04:52.37 | Yssaril | and your trying to use ur abilities without enough energy :P |
| 04:52.46 | Antiarc | I'm a button masher >_> |
| 04:52.54 | Yssaril | lol |
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| 04:55.05 | ccKep | anyone familar with flexbar2? |
| 04:55.05 | Kerafyrm | wtg antiarc |
| 04:55.25 | Yssaril | btw Antiarc how is the new GUID system effecting threat calculating? i saw some boss modules being removed from threat-2.0 and was wondering what changed? |
| 04:56.16 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: you removed the kael module right? |
| 04:58.09 | Antiarc | Yssaril: It makes it a lot easier |
| 04:58.11 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Yes |
| 04:58.20 | Antiarc | Yssaril: Basically, everythign will be a lot more accurate :D |
| 04:58.30 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 04:58.33 | Antiarc | Per-mob calculations (not per-name) and lots fewer global threat bugs |
| 04:58.45 | Arrowmaster | might want to reconsider that since in 2.3 theres no death event for the advisors the first time you kill them |
| 04:58.53 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: For serious? :( |
| 04:58.59 | Antiarc | Are you sure? I thought there was an X dies :( |
| 04:59.17 | Arrowmaster | no death message, dots continue doing damage even |
| 04:59.25 | Arrowmaster | same for R+J in kara |
| 04:59.26 | Antiarc | Pfah! Pfah! |
| 04:59.30 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 04:59.33 | Antiarc | Stupid-ass non-dying mobs. |
| 04:59.43 | Antiarc | Fine, we'll do a module, but it'll be small, I suspect :P |
| 05:00.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah all you need to do is fake them dying on the yells |
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| 05:00.37 | Antiarc | Easy enough, but it'd have been a lot easier if they actually died :/ |
| 05:01.05 | Arrowmaster | if they really do die then you can remove the module later |
| 05:01.36 | Arrowmaster | just do an on this yell if this mob isnt dead yet then consider it dead |
| 05:01.52 | exor674 | on yell requires translation :P |
| 05:01.54 | Arrowmaster | although dots ticking could mess that up |
| 05:03.09 | Antiarc | exor674: Yup :/ |
| 05:03.11 | Antiarc | Which I was hoping to avoid |
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| 05:05.25 | Arrowmaster | you are considering a mob in combat after getting any combatlog message from it right? |
| 05:05.30 | Arrowmaster | or to it? |
| 05:06.35 | Antiarc | Any message involving a party member, yes |
| 05:07.15 | Arrowmaster | so mindvision/hunters mark wouldnt mess it up? |
| 05:08.08 | Antiarc | It would consider that mob to be in combat...I think |
| 05:08.19 | Antiarc | I'll have to check if it short-circuits if you aren't in combat |
| 05:08.25 | Antiarc | I think not because otherwise you don't get the first action |
| 05:08.32 | Antiarc | Oh, wait |
| 05:08.35 | Antiarc | Mark/MV would be casts |
| 05:08.43 | Antiarc | Which are short circuited, so happy fun times. |
| 05:10.08 | ccKep | [06:00:08] <Arrowmaster> although dots ticking could mess that up <<< advisors can be dotted while they're "dead" ? |
| 05:10.30 | Arrowmaster | no but when they 'die' they can still have dots on them still ticking |
| 05:10.35 | ccKep | yeah |
| 05:10.38 | Arrowmaster | same with R+J |
| 05:10.43 | ccKep | but it's not like you're going to finish the weapons in 30 seconds |
| 05:11.29 | Arrowmaster | the dots ticking could still make the mob be considered incombat and mess up the healing threat split per mob |
| 05:11.46 | ccKep | looks like vis maior killed the new brutallus again :o |
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| 05:13.40 | Civrock | Deathtouched. |
| 05:13.58 | Civrock | Now they're getting rolled by the new Felmist. |
| 05:14.24 | ccKep | just saw it =) |
| 05:14.46 | Xinhuan | hey Antiarc, does threat-2.0 still need the system where you wait 0.5 seconds for a combat log response to some abilities/spells? |
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| 05:17.03 | crohnoes | hello, how do i create spaces with dogtag? |
| 05:17.05 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Very few, like Sunder, yes |
| 05:17.08 | crohnoes | i have [~HasNoMP ? FractionalMP] [MissingMP:Negate] [PercentMP:Percent] |
| 05:17.17 | crohnoes | and i want to create space between each one |
| 05:17.21 | Antiarc | Most don't need it now though |
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| 05:17.36 | Xinhuan | so combat log still doesn't show anything when refreshing a stacking debuff? |
| 05:17.40 | Antiarc | Nope. |
| 05:17.45 | Xinhuan | sucks |
| 05:17.50 | crohnoes | can anyone help please? :) |
| 05:17.51 | Xinhuan | are you using acecomm2 or 3? |
| 05:18.02 | Antiarc | AceComm3, though really only for its chunking |
| 05:18.14 | Xinhuan | aha, and the serializer too i think? |
| 05:18.21 | Antiarc | Yeah, though not for the threat tables |
| 05:18.28 | Antiarc | The threat tables are custom serialized now |
| 05:19.16 | Arrowmaster | combat log needs to tell us about refreshing our own debuffs/buffs and when a buff/debuff is applied tell us if its ours or not since that info is available to us now from the buff/debuff functions |
| 05:19.21 | Arrowmaster | might want to suggest that |
| 05:19.24 | crohnoes | ckknight are you around? |
| 05:19.53 | Arrowmaster | since its not 'new' information being given to us, just the same info in a better format |
| 05:20.01 | dylanm | It does show something if it doesn't land though, right? |
| 05:20.09 | Antiarc | Yes, dylanm |
| 05:20.23 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665560443&sid=1 |
| 05:20.24 | Xinhuan | ahahaha |
| 05:20.33 | Xinhuan | the stories people can come up with |
| 05:23.00 | exor674 | hrm.. is there a version of transcriptor uet that logs the new event? |
| 05:23.12 | CIA-12 | 03archarodim * r61695 10Decursive/ (5 files): |
| 05:23.13 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
| 05:23.13 | CIA-12 | - Reduced the CPU load in case of mass raid debuff (no more than 5 units can be updated at the same time). |
| 05:23.13 | CIA-12 | - Added an internal history of the last 40 debuff detected during a session, |
| 05:23.13 | CIA-12 | this will be used to simplify debuff additions in filters and the future alert |
| 05:23.13 | CIA-12 | system. The History can be visualized in debug mode while looking at Decursive |
| 05:23.17 | CIA-12 | FuBar tool-tip... |
| 05:23.54 | crohnoes | does anyone know how i can create space between each of these tags? [~HasNoMP ? FractionalMP] [MissingMP:Negate] [PercentMP:Percent] |
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| 05:26.40 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: ping |
| 05:29.41 | dylanm | There's no space by default? |
| 05:30.04 | dylanm | I remember doing stuff like [Level] [Name] and certainly there was space between the two. |
| 05:30.27 | crohnoes | it's definitely not working |
| 05:30.34 | crohnoes | i'm even trying spaces |
| 05:30.40 | dylanm | Everything is smashed up against the rest? |
| 05:30.45 | crohnoes | yes |
| 05:30.56 | crohnoes | i even tried [text( )] |
| 05:31.06 | Orionshock | crohnoes: just put one in naturaly |
| 05:31.14 | Orionshock | iirc spaces are literal formatting |
| 05:31.30 | Yssaril | wouldn't it be [text(" ")] instead of [text( )] |
| 05:31.34 | dylanm | He's saying that doesn't work. I haven't used DogTag in a longgg time so I don't know. |
| 05:32.02 | crohnoes | [~HasNoMP ? FractionalMP] [MissingMP:Negate] [PercentMP:Percent] |
| 05:32.12 | crohnoes | is no different from no space between each of them :( |
| 05:32.23 | crohnoes | nothing in the documentation as far as i can see |
| 05:32.42 | Yssaril | [~HasNoMP ? FractionalMP][text(" ")][MissingMP:Negate][text(" ")][PercentMP:Percent] |
| 05:32.45 | Yssaril | try that |
| 05:33.44 | crohnoes | i get " " :( |
| 05:34.05 | Yssaril | hmmmmno idea then |
| 05:35.43 | dylanm | You're sure you're up to date and all that? |
| 05:36.03 | dylanm | Seems like DogTag has been getting lots of commits lately from the hotel. |
| 05:37.32 | crohnoes | i'm not up to date, i'm using a version of pitbull from 8th feb |
| 05:38.20 | Yssaril | crohnoes: you could jsut use | as a spacer but idk if that would look right for what your doing |
| 05:38.44 | crohnoes | i'll try |
| 05:38.51 | crohnoes | this is basically just my mana bar in pitbull |
| 05:38.59 | dylanm | Update update update. |
| 05:39.05 | crohnoes | i can't |
| 05:39.19 | crohnoes | this is the last version of pitbull that has estimated heals |
| 05:39.37 | crohnoes | they scrapped estimated heals for visual heal, and i really dislike it :( |
| 05:39.51 | crohnoes | and i'm not good enough to butcher it and add it myself |
| 05:40.27 | dylanm | Holding out is not going to end well I don't think. But I can understand :) |
| 05:40.38 | dylanm | You could just try updating DogTag. I'm just shooting in the dark at this point though. |
| 05:40.54 | Yssaril | always thought the estimated heal on pitbull was buggy as hell |
| 05:41.23 | kenlyric | it could just be estimating |
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| 05:42.26 | crohnoes | Yssaril, were you using dr damage too? |
| 05:42.35 | Yssaril | yes |
| 05:42.43 | crohnoes | weird, i've had no problems |
| 05:43.21 | Yssaril | pitbull never seamed to take into account ranks of healing spells (never really cared wither way but kinda anoying :P) |
| 05:43.27 | exor674 | hrm, does Baggins use Perodic Table for food sorting? |
| 05:43.44 | crohnoes | it doesn't Yssaril, but with dr damage it works perfect |
| 05:43.51 | crohnoes | i use 3 ranks of greater heals and never bugs out |
| 05:44.06 | Yssaril | dont use pitbull anymore so not really an issue :) |
| 05:44.10 | crohnoes | i guess |
| 05:44.24 | Yssaril | exor674: it can idk if it does it by default though |
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| 05:44.31 | CIA-12 | - Initial batch of 2.4 changes (T6 items, librams, idols, totems, some spells) |
| 05:44.31 | CIA-12 | - Manually adjustable combo point amount (static or automatic) |
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| 06:07.14 | Orionshock | oy! 12 hrs later it works |
| 06:07.16 | Orionshock | i think |
| 06:08.26 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: ping |
| 06:08.35 | Xinhuan | what Orionshock? |
| 06:08.47 | Orionshock | i got the fr client to finaly load |
| 06:08.58 | Yssaril | lol |
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| 06:09.09 | Orionshock | so i loaded my addon over, glitched some of the aceDB stuff to load the data from my US realm |
| 06:09.20 | Orionshock | and boom, it works now.. properly formatted stuff |
| 06:09.32 | Xinhuan | why 12 hours? |
| 06:09.44 | NightHawkTheSane | vent |
| 06:09.47 | Orionshock | ~5gb worth of downloading |
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| 06:11.00 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: have you messed with custom widgets in AceConfigDialog yet? |
| 06:11.04 | Xinhuan | no |
| 06:11.13 | Yssaril | k nm |
| 06:11.28 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 06:12.59 | Yssaril | trying to make a input box that has teh potential to suggest inputs via autocompletion but so far every reasonable way i have found to feed it a list of possibilities is not really gonna work since they kinda blow up the dropdown and console parts of aceconfig |
| 06:13.31 | Xinhuan | how are you trying to do it |
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| 06:14.12 | Yssaril | so far i ahve gotting it to work by either feeding a table to the set function of a modified input type or using a select type and using its set function |
| 06:14.33 | Yssaril | but they both misbehave terribly outside of AceConfigDialog :( |
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| 06:14.52 | Xinhuan | how are you feeding this table? |
| 06:14.53 | on1y | is there a way to hide swstats mini map icon |
| 06:15.40 | Gngsk | nameofframe:Hide() |
| 06:16.09 | sylvanaar | i guess spamsentry is locked for commits |
| 06:16.22 | Xinhuan | on1y, move it off the screen via the radius/angle bars ;p |
| 06:16.40 | Xinhuan | sliders rather |
| 06:16.58 | Yssaril | usign the get function in the aceoptions table :P http://ace.pastey.net/82469 its been the only way i have figured out how to easily feed it one :) |
| 06:17.23 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: it worked... |
| 06:17.25 | Xinhuan | don't do that |
| 06:17.33 | Xinhuan | if you want to pass values, use the info arg |
| 06:17.49 | Xinhuan | notice how every function to ace3 opt tables has a |
| 06:17.53 | Xinhuan | function(info, ...) |
| 06:17.58 | Xinhuan | that info is a table |
| 06:18.08 | Xinhuan | info.arg will contain whatever is in your arg= |
| 06:18.20 | Xinhuan | so if you have arg={some list of values} |
| 06:18.27 | Xinhuan | then info.arg == that table |
| 06:18.55 | Yssaril | hmmm let me try something :) |
| 06:18.57 | Xinhuan | the info table contains other things like the root options table |
| 06:18.58 | on1y | nameofframe:Hide() |
| 06:19.03 | on1y | what doe this mean |
| 06:19.08 | Xinhuan | info[0] is a table reference to your options[] root |
| 06:19.24 | Xinhuan | info[1] to info[#info] contains the key names of your options tree to the selected function |
| 06:19.25 | Orionshock | on1y: Minimap:Hide() |
| 06:19.28 | Orionshock | try it, |
| 06:19.53 | on1y | i dont want to hide minimap |
| 06:20.01 | on1y | i want to hid the swstats button on the minimap |
| 06:20.15 | Xinhuan | on1y, i told you already, go into swstats options |
| 06:20.22 | on1y | kk |
| 06:20.24 | Xinhuan | and change the radius/angle of the minimap button |
| 06:20.29 | Xinhuan | so that it goes off-screen |
| 06:20.38 | Xinhuan | that is the only way, short of editing code |
| 06:20.47 | Xinhuan | or running your own code on every login |
| 06:21.19 | on1y | thanks |
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| 06:24.21 | Yssaril | dmanit that didnt work so how does the info thing help me again? |
| 06:24.41 | Xinhuan | by setting arg=somevalue |
| 06:24.48 | Xinhuan | in the function such as get= set= etc etc |
| 06:24.56 | Xinhuan | the arg= argument gets passed in |
| 06:25.03 | Xinhuan | and you can find it in info.arg |
| 06:25.45 | Nargiddley | Xinhuan, its getting info to custom widgets not functions, info doesnt help there |
| 06:25.53 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 06:26.00 | Xinhuan | he said he wants to pass values in |
| 06:26.16 | Yssaril | hurray Nargiddley been meaning to ask you how i am supposed to fix it :) |
| 06:26.25 | Nargiddley | and its not going to happen basically,the widgets are meant to work with the same api and semantics as the default ones |
| 06:26.30 | on1y | swstats icon :P |
| 06:26.42 | Av | Anyone know of an addon that makes the minimap square? The round one is a bit limited and Im running out of space to put buttons around it |
| 06:27.01 | Xinhuan | i see Nargiddley |
| 06:27.22 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: i know it would work just like a normal input box just needs more info :) |
| 06:27.24 | Xinhuan | getting info to widgets hmm |
| 06:27.26 | Medlir | simpleMinimap |
| 06:28.05 | Xinhuan | i didn't think that was possible heh |
| 06:29.35 | Xinhuan | you can do hacks to get around it i guess |
| 06:29.37 | Xinhuan | like |
| 06:30.06 | Xinhuan | when the aceconfigdialog calls widget:settext() <-- you can have that text pass in information delimited by something |
| 06:30.14 | Xinhuan | and your widget takes care of it |
| 06:30.31 | Xinhuan | would that work? |
| 06:30.36 | Nargiddley | then every other implementation will get crap text, not good :P |
| 06:30.45 | Xinhuan | true |
| 06:30.56 | Xinhuan | oh well! |
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| 06:31.19 | Yssaril | hmmm i may jsut resort to a global table taht the widget acceses and finds its info that is determind by which option tree it is in |
| 06:31.30 | Nargiddley | its not designed to have extra info passed to widgets, if you do figure out a way it will be not supported and liable to break with changes |
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| 06:31.49 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: does the info arg contain the name of the option table as defined by the registration? |
| 06:31.52 | Lukian | Drool, how is it that I get blimp data on alliance side in Nauticus? :) |
| 06:32.31 | Nargiddley | Yssaril, you dont get access to the info table tho |
| 06:33.01 | Yssaril | hmm let me try something |
| 06:33.15 | Orionshock | Nargiddley: im some what surprised that you guys did specific implementation for each type for the spec, wouldn't it have been easier to just use a generic dispatcher? |
| 06:33.39 | Yssaril | but before i do that is there a way i can pass something to the get/set functions from within the widget? |
| 06:33.58 | Nargiddley | Orionshock, it was never intended for that to be exposed to customization. |
| 06:34.09 | Orionshock | ic |
| 06:34.24 | Nargiddley | which is why there was so much resistance to opening it for that |
| 06:35.12 | Nargiddley | you get to replace the widgets with ones that get called in exactly the same way as the default, thats it. anything else will be unsupported probably break with changes at some point |
| 06:36.05 | Nargiddley | I'd rather not even have that |
| 06:36.26 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: would you be willing to add appName to the info spec? |
| 06:36.42 | Nargiddley | how does the info help you with what you're doing ? |
| 06:37.38 | Yssaril | cause then i could simply to a global var with myglobal[appName].optionlvl1.optionlvl2/optionname = {mylist} |
| 06:37.58 | Yssaril | cause i can get the appname and all that from the self part of the widget :) |
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| 06:38.06 | Nargiddley | widgets dont get the info table, except in a way that you shouldn't be messing with |
| 06:38.28 | Yssaril | cause it could change? |
| 06:38.32 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 06:38.40 | Yssaril | cry |
| 06:38.58 | Yssaril | any idea if all that info will ever be set in stone? |
| 06:39.03 | Nargiddley | never |
| 06:39.15 | Nargiddley | since the spec is not meant to limit you to one implementation |
| 06:39.50 | Nargiddley | the more people push for this kind of stuff, the less I want to keep custom widgets in |
| 06:40.15 | Yssaril | lol |
| 06:41.04 | Orionshock | ? Nargiddley that's contradictory, in one line you say that it's not supposed to be limiting, and in the next you state that whining about flexibility makes you want to remove custom widgets. well what is it? |
| 06:41.58 | Nargiddley | The spec is not meant to be for one implementation |
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| 06:43.25 | Yssaril | what do you mean by only one implementation? as in that people can use the widgets without AceConfig? |
| 06:43.53 | Orionshock | ralisticly you could |
| 06:44.02 | Nargiddley | if something else wants to implement the AceConfig3 Spec it can |
| 06:44.05 | Nargiddley | thats what I mean |
| 06:44.59 | Yssaril | and its AceConfig that feeds the widget all the extra self. info and as such it is open to change? |
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| 06:45.30 | Nargiddley | AceConfigDialog-3.0 is not AceConfig |
| 06:45.44 | Nargiddley | AceConfig3 is the spec, AceConfigDialog is one implementation |
| 06:45.52 | Yssaril | ic |
| 06:46.27 | Orionshock | the irony here is that realistically what else would implement it? |
| 06:46.39 | Yssaril | rock :P |
| 06:46.50 | Nargiddley | anything that wants to, thats the point |
| 06:47.32 | Xinhuan | khaos might, rock might, dewdrop might, deucecommander might, etc |
| 06:48.22 | Orionshock | ducecommander is dewdrop last time i checked |
| 06:48.31 | Yssaril | hmmm so any suggestion how to make a autocompleting inputbox without me having to make my own interface (i really like using AceConfigDialog) |
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| 06:56.26 | Yssaril | hmm was thinking cause for what i need i dont really need it to be an input box but a dropdown would work cause i currently feed the widget all possibilities anyways (its just there is a ton of possibilities :P) was thinking to make a select widget that has a editbox as its main interface but as soon as you start typing a dropdown of all possible choices would appear below it (the number of... |
| 06:56.28 | Yssaril | ...choices would shrink as you keep typing) and you coould either finish typing the choice or click on the choice to select it waht do you guys think? |
| 06:57.17 | Nargiddley | that would be possible, just make sure it returns a key from the values table |
| 06:57.19 | Xinhuan | it sounds exactly like my custom editbox in WoWEquip. |
| 06:57.23 | Orionshock | only reason i'd use it is as a search box |
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| 06:58.23 | Orionshock | witch btw i need to bribe Xinhuan into making for me for guild crafts |
| 06:58.58 | Yssaril | Orionshock: close enough :) currently need a way to select from a list of all installed addons/libraries which can get quite big in my case so anything to narrow it down would help :) |
| 06:59.26 | Yssaril | Nargiddley: yupyup exactly want i want |
| 06:59.39 | Xinhuan | or you can wait for ace3 to finish making their dropdown implementation |
| 06:59.49 | Xinhuan | which is probably going to take months ;p |
| 07:00.48 | Yssaril | just what i was gonna ask when is the select widget gonna be done with scrollable list :) cause i would love to have a nice base to work with :) |
| 07:01.43 | Xinhuan | you will need to poke Nargiddley a lot to get an answer for that hehe |
| 07:01.44 | Orionshock | Yssaril: well RC1 is in play, give it 3months or so |
| 07:02.04 | Orionshock | imo, don't |
| 07:02.13 | Orionshock | dev's play the game too :P |
| 07:02.14 | Yssaril | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.09 | Estil | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=254 <-- lol win |
| 07:04.18 | Nargiddley | When its done |
| 07:04.19 | Yssaril | so for now i will stick with my crappy implementation of a input box and switch to a properly designed select widget when i get to it (or maybe i will make the input be a select that will only return things on the list hrmmmm |
| 07:04.31 | Yssaril | will look at it tomorrow :) |
| 07:04.38 | Antiarc | So something I'm doing with FontString is crashing WoW |
| 07:05.04 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.15 | Antiarc | Damn, caught! |
| 07:06.09 | sylvanaar | Ace2 is still RC1 isnt it? |
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| 07:06.48 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think it ever left beta |
| 07:06.54 | Orionshock | and a while true local t = _G; for k,v in pairs(t) do if type(v) = 'function' then v() end end end |
| 07:07.00 | Orionshock | sylvanaar: RC2 iirc |
| 07:07.19 | sylvanaar | hey - 1, 2 its all the same |
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| 07:13.49 | Bruners | season 3 priests needs a nerf! unable to kill them with my ungeared hunter! |
| 07:13.58 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021708_001304.jpg |
| 07:14.02 | Antiarc | It marches on :D |
| 07:14.45 | durcyn | crying at transfer speed on that |
| 07:15.19 | Yssaril | Antiarc: fancy custom fonts and textures :) |
| 07:15.31 | Antiarc | ie, "options are coming along nicely" :D |
| 07:15.56 | Yssaril | anyway to skin the frame? |
| 07:16.42 | Antiarc | Soon, yes |
| 07:18.55 | Orionshock | Antiarc: that's an ass-ton of inter-addon event dispatching |
| 07:19.01 | Yssaril | using sharedmedia lib right? |
| 07:19.12 | Yssaril | which version is that at btw? |
| 07:19.46 | Bruners | 2.0b |
| 07:20.43 | Yssaril | Orionshock: not really its one per mob that threat was changed to |
| 07:21.08 | Yssaril | so say about 1 call per sec? |
| 07:21.11 | Orionshock | .. in 10 man raid, that could get to be quite alot |
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| 07:22.00 | Yssaril | true but must be done if you want other things to know that the threat has changed with any amount of accuracy |
| 07:22.29 | Antiarc | Orionshock: That's only your personal threat changes |
| 07:22.36 | Orionshock | ic |
| 07:22.55 | Wobin | I still like http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=168 |
| 07:22.56 | Antiarc | Threat-1.0 did the same thing; it seems to ahve worked fine |
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| 07:22.59 | Yssaril | Antiarc: how often does threat-2.0 transmit current threat to a mob? |
| 07:23.21 | Orionshock | prolly on event |
| 07:23.38 | Antiarc | Yssaril: Depends on the group size. Larger group sizes = slower synching |
| 07:23.46 | Antiarc | Because the cumulative group traffic grows |
| 07:23.48 | Yssaril | say 25 man :) |
| 07:23.52 | Antiarc | Uhh, let me see |
| 07:24.13 | Antiarc | Max of once per 1.5 sec |
| 07:24.32 | Antiarc | I meant to benchmark that at one point. Hm. |
| 07:24.38 | Antiarc | Could probably get away with a much larger number. |
| 07:25.14 | Yssaril | hmmm should be enough i think since casts and such tend to be more than 1.5 but should you change that to 1 per sec since the Global Cooldown can now be lowered to a min of 1sec? |
| 07:25.28 | Antiarc | It's not important that threat data be quite that realtime |
| 07:25.39 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 07:26.02 | aestil | every 3 seconds would be ample. |
| 07:26.06 | Yssaril | hmmm for for threat on the MT it is imo ( i like to ride the threat line :P) |
| 07:26.11 | aestil | mostly because of threat tank. |
| 07:26.26 | aestil | in the first 5 seconds of a fight, maybe. |
| 07:26.32 | Orionshock | imo, threat should instead use Banzi lib, and when you pull aggro it sends a rw message "LEARN TO PLAY NOOB" |
| 07:26.43 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 07:26.43 | aestil | after that, the values represented by 1 - 5% are much greater than 1 SB or 1 MB |
| 07:27.03 | Yssaril | hmmm true |
| 07:27.26 | Orionshock | because we don't have real numbers about threat per spell, riding the line is like wanting a repair bill, it's stupid |
| 07:27.31 | Yssaril | can matter for some threat sensitive fights where the boss constantly drops agro (leotheras comes to mind) |
| 07:27.49 | Antiarc | EHh. |
| 07:27.51 | Orionshock | get a boss mod :P |
| 07:27.51 | Yssaril | thats what dailies are for :P |
| 07:28.02 | Antiarc | Just learn to not smack the mob 0.2 sec after he threat wipes :P |
| 07:28.12 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 07:28.16 | Antiarc | Unless you're tanking, in which case, smack the DPS that smacks the mob 0.2 sec after he threat wipes. |
| 07:28.41 | Orionshock | im very divided about threat meters, in some cases they are useful / in others people just need to stop being idiots and L2P |
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| 07:28.52 | CIA-12 | IceHUD: |
| 07:28.52 | CIA-12 | ICE-8 - made default dogtag for fractional health into CurHP:Round/MaxHP:Round since FractionalHP liked to show decimals and wouldn't :Round |
| 07:28.52 | CIA-12 | - expanded raid icon placement ranges to allow more flexibility |
| 07:29.13 | Yssaril | i do both on leo :) am the demon phase tank thoug i start with a corruption right after he drops threat (give the tanks 3 sec to pick him up never had a problem with it ) |
| 07:29.30 | Antiarc | A threat meter is a tool, not a replacement for a brain :P |
| 07:29.37 | Yssaril | true that |
| 07:29.58 | Yssaril | u want to educate my guildies? would be much appreciated :P |
| 07:30.02 | Orionshock | currently i take the stance of why decursive got broke. because of threat meters, blizzard starts making encounters designed around their use. Thus more complicated and conveluded. |
| 07:30.10 | Megalon | Antiarc: i know some raiders that are clearly outsmarted by threat-1.0 ;/ |
| 07:30.33 | Antiarc | I think that's really pretty blatantly not true, Orionshock. Most of the Outland encounters aren't made or broken by threat meters. |
| 07:30.42 | Antiarc | They help, but they're all about execution |
| 07:30.55 | Orionshock | meh |
| 07:31.18 | Yssaril | yep though VR could be a pain without a threat meter (never tried it though) |
| 07:31.19 | Antiarc | Broodlord was a threat meter fight |
| 07:31.44 | Xinhuan | fairly sure everyone killed it without a threat meter |
| 07:31.52 | Orionshock | not that the encounter is broken or simplified by the use there of. but it has been known that they broke decursive n' such because they didn't want to design encounters around that addon where they Knew that it would be used beyond a doubt |
| 07:31.53 | Xinhuan | because KTM didn't even exist then |
| 07:32.10 | Antiarc | Err. They broke decursive because they didn't want addons making decisions for people. |
| 07:32.23 | Megalon | well, even vaelastrasz was a threat fight |
| 07:32.24 | Antiarc | There are still very heavy decursing fights |
| 07:32.26 | Antiarc | See: Archimonde. |
| 07:32.28 | Megalon | at least for us horde ;) |
| 07:32.28 | Orionshock | ... and the list continues |
| 07:33.37 | Orionshock | base idea is that addons that play for you made making encounters harder. thus remove the method by witch addons are made to play for you. |
| 07:34.04 | Antiarc | Well...yes. But threat meters never played for you. |
| 07:34.38 | Orionshock | no, but... ... don't want to go into this argument. |
| 07:34.44 | Orionshock | i just don't care enough right now |
| 07:35.04 | Yssaril | didnt blizz also say they might implement a threat meter n their own for WOTLK? |
| 07:35.11 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.41 | Antiarc | Yssaril: Yes, they are going to |
| 07:36.09 | Yssaril | cool should be interesting |
| 07:36.12 | Yssaril | anyways Antiarc keep up the good work but i am going to bed need sleep |
| 07:38.20 | Killmore | Antiarc! |
| 07:39.02 | darchon- | http://www.gean.com/bbs/view.php?id=flash&no=35 street fighter parody |
| 07:39.11 | Antiarc | Heya Killmore |
| 07:41.05 | Killmore | I saw your screenshot ! omen2 is near ? :P |
| 07:41.16 | Antiarc | Getting there :) |
| 07:41.34 | Olison | what screenshot? :> |
| 07:41.50 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021608_215045.jpg |
| 07:42.00 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021708_001304.jpg |
| 07:43.10 | Olison | :):) |
| 07:43.11 | Olison | nice |
| 07:47.54 | aestil | omen2 is ace3? |
| 07:49.36 | Xinhuan | what a crappy font ;p |
| 07:49.50 | Antiarc | It is, but I picked it -because I could- :P |
| 07:50.43 | Guillotine | you should have made it with Ace1, just to mess with people. And start extolling the virtues of the original Ace over th new ones |
| 07:51.27 | Antiarc | Haha |
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| 07:53.30 | durcyn | ckknight: so my quest tracker is bouncing around like it's on crack with chinchilla installed |
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| 08:05.00 | Ellipsis | durcyn: which quest tracker is this? an addon or Blizz's? |
| 08:05.58 | durcyn | Ellipsis: standard quest tracker |
| 08:06.19 | Ellipsis | odd, I haven't had issues with that |
| 08:06.51 | on1y | is htere a good duid stats mod |
| 08:15.50 | ulic | I think there is a kittypoints or something for dps |
| 08:17.27 | on1y | kk, any idea on a druid item stats thing |
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| 08:37.58 | Elsia | morning |
| 08:39.50 | Killmore | hey! |
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| 08:45.06 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r61704 10WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua: WhoLib: Fix likely bug when 2 addons embed WhoLib and an upgrade occurs. (Drycode) |
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| 08:48.25 | Elsia | kill: had a chance to test PTR recount some more? |
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| 08:55.03 | Elsia | lua> tonumber("0x00",16) |
| 08:55.03 | lua_bot | Elsia: 0 |
| 08:55.08 | Elsia | lua> tonumber("0xf0",16) |
| 08:55.08 | lua_bot | Elsia: 240 |
| 08:55.54 | Fin | hm |
| 08:55.56 | Fin | The requested URL /ptr/downloads/ was not found on this server. |
| 08:56.36 | Fin | have they just linked it wrongly, or is it just not there? more importantly: does anyone have a link to the EU PTR client, pretty please? |
| 08:57.33 | Elsia | link is broken it seems |
| 08:57.51 | Fin | do you know where it *should* point? |
| 08:58.34 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc * r61705 10/branches/Omen/ (30 files in 5 dirs): Omen: Make way for 2.4! 2.4, coming through! |
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| 08:59.10 | Elsia | sorry |
| 08:59.22 | Elsia | \o/ anti |
| 08:59.24 | Fin | WoWWiki has some links to patch mirrors, thanks anyway |
| 08:59.47 | Elsia | anti: can you poke me when threat-2.0 is ready for general use? for recount that is |
| 09:00.04 | Elsia | oh he isn't here |
| 09:00.12 | Antiarc | I'm here |
| 09:00.16 | durcyn | i don't imagine he'll release it until 2.4 goes live |
| 09:00.16 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r61706 10Omen/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:00.16 | CIA-12 | Omen: Omen2 (2.4 rewrite) initial commit. No externals yet, not quite ready for |
| 09:00.16 | CIA-12 | primetime beta but alpha testers/other coders may want to take a look. Check out |
| 09:00.16 | CIA-12 | the Threat-2.0 branch and run it as a standalone addon next to Omen. Requires |
| 09:00.16 | CIA-12 | Ace3 and LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 09:00.20 | Antiarc | I'll poke you, still developing it, but it's getting pretty solid. |
| 09:00.32 | Elsia | weird my who list don't show you |
| 09:00.37 | Elsia | nice |
| 09:00.39 | Antiarc | I'm voiced |
| 09:00.50 | Elsia | ah yes |
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| 09:02.42 | Elsia | lua> string.format("%0x",8465) |
| 09:02.42 | lua_bot | Elsia: 2111 |
| 09:03.26 | Elsia | hmm ok totems show up as proper guardians, that's nice :D |
| 09:04.55 | Vangual | all of them or just the attacking/active ones? |
| 09:05.23 | Elsia | anything that shows in combatlog |
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| 09:12.05 | durcyn | Antiarc: Locale error on initial load, in case you didn't already know |
| 09:12.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: when you want some concerted guild raid testing on the PTR, lemme know, Warfare can do that, we're working Sunwell PTR raids in our weekly rotation |
| 09:14.56 | Elsia | any chance warfare could also be interested in testing recount? ;) |
| 09:15.10 | durcyn | post it in branches, i'll give it a shot |
| 09:15.49 | Elsia | recount is on the branches already.. look for branches/recount/2.4 |
| 09:16.09 | on1y | what is the mod fro fubar that is a visual exp mod that looks liek a spark? |
| 09:16.27 | Orionshock | in TK, doing trash around alar, pull 2 dragons, raid wipes... pally DI"s a warrior |
| 09:16.41 | Orionshock | ...warrior stand around for 2mins wondering how to get out of it |
| 09:16.44 | durcyn | on1y: it was fubar_fuxpfu, it's been replaced by Xparky though |
| 09:16.46 | Fisker- | so? |
| 09:18.15 | on1y | hmm |
| 09:18.49 | ZealotOnAStick | elsia: sempi (Aamina, our DPS officer) and I already are. |
| 09:19.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Xparky? |
| 09:19.33 | ZealotOnAStick | what happened to fuxpxu? |
| 09:19.49 | Elsia | zeal: great, any feedback much appreciated |
| 09:20.07 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: Wobin rewrote it |
| 09:20.24 | [Ammo] | you can now attach the xpbar to any (named) frame |
| 09:21.07 | ZealotOnAStick | is FuXPFu abandoned/deprecated now then? |
| 09:21.34 | [Ammo] | it still works rhgu |
| 09:21.38 | [Ammo] | thorugh |
| 09:21.40 | [Ammo] | though |
| 09:21.41 | [Ammo] | damn |
| 09:21.44 | [Ammo] | typing bad on sunday morning |
| 09:21.45 | Fisker- | you suck a bit at that |
| 09:21.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I know it still works, I'm running it. |
| 09:22.04 | ZealotOnAStick | I just want to know if I'm going to -need- to switch. |
| 09:24.57 | Tem|AFK | just never update fb |
| 09:25.02 | Tem|AFK | then it will always work |
| 09:25.23 | ZealotOnAStick | is CK changing/breaking something else again? |
| 09:25.39 | Tem|AFK | that's the usual method of things, but I don't know of anything |
| 09:26.22 | Tem|AFK | just saying that Fuxpfu is unlikely to break on its own |
| 09:26.27 | Tem|AFK | it's more like that fb will break it |
| 09:26.33 | Tem|AFK | so if it works, don't update |
| 09:26.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Meh, I just generally run WAU every couple of days and if something breaks I revert a day or two. |
| 09:27.06 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: if it breaks, I'll fix it. |
| 09:27.10 | durcyn | smrt |
| 09:27.22 | vhaarr | but it won't break due to fubar changes. |
| 09:27.32 | vhaarr | it's more likely that it breaks due to blizzard patch changes. |
| 09:27.32 | Elsia | 2.4 does create some addon-reworking waves, I think it'll settle down once the PTR matures |
| 09:28.21 | Dezzimal | is it possible to make an addon that'll automatically gkick on a trigger phrase or event? |
| 09:28.21 | durcyn | Elsia: recount looks good so far, i'll give it a workout next time we hit sunwell |
| 09:28.26 | Dezzimal | or is that function protected |
| 09:28.47 | Elsia | drcyn: great! |
| 09:28.54 | on1y | durcyn, is there a way to get rid of the xp info i jsut want the bar |
| 09:29.04 | Dezzimal | say I wanted to kick someone based upon "Essence of Desire's Deaden was interrupted by $n" |
| 09:29.06 | durcyn | on1y: uh, type /xparky and toggle the legoblock off |
| 09:29.34 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r61707 10FuBar_WhoLibFu/ (FuBar_WhoLibFu.lua FuBar_WhoLibFu.toc): FuBar_WhoLibFu: Fix errors when WhoLib hasnt loaded yet |
| 09:29.37 | durcyn | Elsia: any plans to port to ace3? |
| 09:29.49 | Elsia | dur: yes, basically once threat-2.0 is ready |
| 09:30.12 | on1y | the only options for turnign it off turns off the entire mod |
| 09:30.15 | Elsia | threat-1.0 is the only major ace2 dependency I have left... well and roster. |
| 09:30.21 | vhaarr | Dezzimal: should be possible, I don't think it's a protected function |
| 09:30.21 | durcyn | gotcha. if roar doesn't fix assessment i might have to actually use something else :o |
| 09:30.29 | durcyn | roster's pretty much obsolete though, no? |
| 09:30.42 | vhaarr | Dezzimal: afaik it's GuildUninviteByName("Dezzimal") |
| 09:31.42 | Dezzimal | should be doable in combat then |
| 09:31.46 | Dezzimal | I would hope :D |
| 09:31.59 | Elsia | dur: not really unfortunately |
| 09:31.59 | durcyn | there are easier ways to teach people to not fuck up ROS though |
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| 09:32.19 | durcyn | i seem to recall an addon on the ace svn that filters Deaden out of various castbars |
| 09:32.22 | Dezzimal | are they as fun as watching rogues do the rest of BT |
| 09:32.25 | durcyn | Nedaed was it? |
| 09:32.26 | Dezzimal | without a guild tag |
| 09:32.34 | durcyn | depends on if you're the rogue or not |
| 09:32.41 | Orionshock | durcyn: deaden, it's the mod name too |
| 09:32.44 | Orionshock | iirc |
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| 09:32.50 | vhaarr | Antiarc: does Threat-2.0 communicate with -1.0? |
| 09:32.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Deadened, I believe. |
| 09:33.29 | Dezzimal | I also think its funny to see someone get booted immediately right when they kicked the deaden |
| 09:33.29 | Dezzimal | a sort of public humiliation |
| 09:33.29 | Elsia | threat-1.0 will die with 2.4 going live |
| 09:33.29 | durcyn | ah yes, Deadened |
| 09:33.38 | Ozguli | what's with the threat?+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 09:33.41 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: it can't |
| 09:33.48 | [Ammo] | because 1.0 doesn't use the new combat events |
| 09:33.52 | Grum | [Ammo]: best make sure it actually breaks |
| 09:33.54 | [Ammo] | 1.0 won't work |
| 09:33.55 | Ozguli | hmm my kb must be slightly broken |
| 09:33.56 | ZealotOnAStick | We've have Illidan on farm for months, literally, and we STILL have people kick deaden every week. |
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| 09:34.10 | vhaarr | ah, right, I'm just tired, forget it. |
| 09:34.17 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: we solved the problem by forcing the mages to handle interrupts, since rogues tend to drool on themselves |
| 09:34.22 | vhaarr | I was thinking I'd test Omen2 now on 2.3, but of course that doesn't work anyway. |
| 09:34.30 | [Ammo] | indeed :) |
| 09:34.36 | [Ammo] | man I hate the lack of character copy |
| 09:34.47 | ZealotOnAStick | We usually don't have too many mages on RoS. |
| 09:34.51 | [Ammo] | levelling a character to the level where mobs actually cast sucks :) |
| 09:34.53 | Birdemani | i think the EU's copies had a few go thru today |
| 09:34.56 | ZealotOnAStick | and if they're there, they help too as well as felhunters. |
| 09:35.10 | durcyn | three-mage rotation is much more stable |
| 09:35.23 | [Ammo] | durcyn: your rogues just fail |
| 09:35.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Mage attendance hasn't been stable enough for us to rely upon that lately. |
| 09:35.31 | durcyn | [Ammo]: usually! |
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| 09:35.52 | durcyn | i mean, they haven't even broken 7,000 dps yet, what a bunch of scrubs |
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| 09:36.40 | charon | morning |
| 09:36.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, Omen2 and Recount, any other mods people want a raid guild to thrash about on the PTR? |
| 09:37.21 | Orionshock | ora3? |
| 09:37.33 | durcyn | oRA2 actually works fine on 2.4 |
| 09:37.45 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: Transcriptor and BigWigs, especially if you raid other instances than sunwell. |
| 09:37.52 | Orionshock | ya but there is a ora3 branch |
| 09:37.53 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: we need logs for ALL the old fights. |
| 09:38.10 | ZealotOnAStick | probably not going to bother raiding anything but sunwell on the PTR |
| 09:38.16 | vhaarr | okay well |
| 09:38.20 | vhaarr | we need logs from there as well :) |
| 09:38.22 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: oRA3 has nothing to do with ptr |
| 09:38.29 | ZealotOnAStick | branch, or the transcriptor on trunk? |
| 09:38.33 | vhaarr | trunk |
| 09:38.44 | durcyn | now if ck'd get off his ass and make parrot work in 2.4... |
| 09:38.52 | Orionshock | he asked for mods that ppl want to raid with on the ptr, |
| 09:39.01 | vhaarr | Orionshock: oRA3 is not one of them. |
| 09:39.05 | ZealotOnAStick | he's got a lot of things that are broken, partially or fully, in 2.4 |
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| 09:39.11 | [Ammo] | oRA3 is not one of them indeed |
| 09:39.13 | Orionshock | prolly |
| 09:39.20 | vhaarr | there's no "probably" |
| 09:39.23 | vhaarr | there's what ammo says |
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| 09:39.26 | vhaarr | just do it and fuck off |
| 09:39.46 | durcyn | Antiarc: Config.lua:1: Usage: GetLocale(application[,silent]):'application' - No locales registered for 'Omen' |
| 09:41.43 | Orionshock | ^.^ ie: prolly ... not one of them, twas agreeing w/ ya :P |
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| 09:50.22 | CIA-12 | 03daviesh * r61708 10AtlasLoot/ (10 files in 5 dirs): |
| 09:50.22 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:50.22 | CIA-12 | - Tweaks for Atlas, began farming out Crafting stuff into its own module, made Sunwell Plateau accessible. |
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| 09:54.28 | Zedde | Hello if I have scrolling combat text and its ' to big where can I finde th settings ? |
| 09:54.56 | Zedde | nm founde it |
| 09:57.00 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r61709 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (AtlasLoot.lua LootButtons.lua): |
| 09:57.00 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:57.00 | CIA-12 | - Make wishlist items able to jump to the page where they come from when click on them. (Only works on items added after this) |
| 09:59.49 | xyu` | How do you use the wishlist, i have no idea heh |
| 09:59.56 | xyu` | It's blank and i cannot add items >< |
| 10:01.58 | Gngsk | go to an item |
| 10:02.03 | Gngsk | then click the add wishlist button |
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| 10:02.41 | chexsum | wishlist = a page of things you want to grind for ? |
| 10:03.11 | xyu` | hmm i'll have to log in wow, i don't remember seeing a "add wishlist" button :P |
| 10:03.15 | xyu` | or maybe i'm just that blind |
| 10:03.18 | chexsum | same |
| 10:03.31 | chexsum | might need to upgrade my eyes |
| 10:04.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, for stuff that's using Ace3, is the Branches version of Ace3 going to be any significantly different than the trunk one? (i.e.: should I use the Branch Ace3 for the Omen2 branch stuff?) |
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| 10:04.42 | cncfanatics | is ace3 in trunk now ? :o |
| 10:04.42 | xyu` | furthermore, how do you "go to an item" in atlast loot? |
| 10:04.56 | xyu` | i can get a list of items, but i can't go to one. |
| 10:04.56 | [Ammo] | ZealotOnAStick: it should all work with the trunk |
| 10:04.58 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: trunk ace3 is the 'release' version, release-candidates are developed in branches then ported to trunk |
| 10:05.06 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: in conclusion, use trunk |
| 10:05.26 | chexsum | ace3 is good to go now ? |
| 10:05.37 | ZealotOnAStick | it's I think still technically in beta? |
| 10:05.47 | durcyn | RC1 was the last milestone i saw. |
| 10:05.48 | ZealotOnAStick | but there is a trunk version, yes, has been there for a bit. |
| 10:05.57 | xyu` | chexsum: Alt-click on the item to add to wishlist. woot figured it out |
| 10:06.00 | chexsum | i seen rc2 but couldnt check it out |
| 10:06.24 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r61710 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/esES.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: Updated esES locale |
| 10:07.01 | Grum | chexsum: some addons have already been ported/created on Ace3 |
| 10:07.15 | Grum | like GatherMate/Mapster/Routes/HandyNotes |
| 10:07.21 | ZealotOnAStick | there a wiki page or a forum thread on what addons are Ace3 based? |
| 10:07.28 | Grum | nope |
| 10:07.40 | ZealotOnAStick | There should be. And no, that' not me volunteering to do it. |
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| 10:08.10 | chexsum | i dont use any of that |
| 10:08.12 | durcyn | Proximo2 iirc |
| 10:09.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Bartender4 |
| 10:09.01 | Elsia | lua> string.format("%0x",local bit_bor= bit.bor |
| 10:09.02 | lua_bot | Elsia: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'local' |
| 10:09.17 | chexsum | i use bt :P |
| 10:09.17 | Elsia | lua> string.format("%0x",8465) |
| 10:09.18 | lua_bot | Elsia: 2111 |
| 10:09.43 | Grum | ZealotOnAStick: well voluntered? |
| 10:11.21 | ZealotOnAStick | "And no, that's not me volunteering to do it." |
| 10:11.34 | Grum | Well volunteered! |
| 10:11.53 | chexsum | theres a wiki ? |
| 10:12.03 | chexsum | good work zealot |
| 10:12.07 | chexsum | ill read it soon |
| 10:13.01 | cncfanatics | Zealots on sticks shouldn't make wikis :p |
| 10:13.17 | ZealotOnAStick | amen |
| 10:13.21 | Grum | true, but a single one should |
| 10:13.28 | Grum | he doesnt have the spine of multiple ones! |
| 10:14.04 | ZealotOnAStick | How's the Ace3 version of Grid working? |
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| 10:14.34 | Grum | dunno |
| 10:14.37 | Grum | ask jerry |
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| 10:20.45 | chexsum | is it %2d to format a number as 2 digits ? |
| 10:21.40 | Grum | lua> ("%02d"):(1) |
| 10:21.40 | lua_bot | Grum: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '(' |
| 10:21.43 | Grum | lua> ("%02d"):format(1) |
| 10:21.43 | lua_bot | Grum: 01 |
| 10:22.06 | Grum | without the '0' it will just be ' 1' i think O.o |
| 10:22.10 | Grum | lua> ("%2d"):format(1) |
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| 10:22.10 | lua_bot | Grum: 1 |
| 10:22.14 | chexsum | i put %d2 last night when i was drunk :( |
| 10:22.15 | Grum | not even, it wont even bother |
| 10:22.27 | Grum | you want prefix 0? |
| 10:22.31 | chexsum | yeah |
| 10:22.36 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r61711 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: frFR Update |
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| 10:22.45 | Grum | %02d |
| 10:23.25 | Grum | omg talasites selling for 19g! |
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| 10:24.16 | CIA-12 | 03chexsum * r61712 10CombatAlert/ (CombatAlert.lua CombatAlert.toc): |
| 10:24.16 | CIA-12 | CombatAlert: |
| 10:24.16 | CIA-12 | - Fixed some noob code |
| 10:25.02 | CIA-12 | 03hedin * r61713 10WF3sec/core.lua: WF3sec: Small WF fix |
| 10:26.51 | CIA-12 | 03ixchael * r61714 10Historian/locales/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 10:26.51 | CIA-12 | Historian: |
| 10:26.51 | CIA-12 | - Pieced together a German translation for the text I added yesterday. Hope it makes sense :) |
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| 10:36.47 | charon | is there an addon that will display energy/rage, but not mana, as a large number? i like archud as a generic hud, but i'd prefer a more accurate display in cat/bear |
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| 10:38.55 | Nerox | Does anyone know why I can't update FuBar with WAU. I always get a Protected message and it skips updating it. |
| 10:40.05 | [SW]Dodge | Standart View -> scroll to bottom -> remove the "ignored" makr at fubar :) |
| 10:40.09 | Grum | because you have a .svn dir inside the dir |
| 10:40.18 | Grum | or that what [SW]Dodge sayts |
| 10:40.45 | Nerox | Thanks :) |
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| 10:42.05 | [SW]Dodge | i have an error while adding a new translation file "File ...../koKR.lua" has inconsistent newlines its a copy/paste from my current translation but saved as unicode due to some ucode characters |
| 10:42.29 | [SW]Dodge | same with zhTW and zhCN :( |
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| 10:45.32 | cncfanatics | [SW]Dodge: get a decent editor that can convert end of line characters |
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| 10:46.50 | CIA-12 | 03elsia 072.4 * r61715 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Sync.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 10:46.50 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 10:46.50 | CIA-12 | - Guardians (totems etc) for self will now be properly treated as pets. Does not yet include totems of other players (requires GUID sharing for proper operation). |
| 10:46.50 | CIA-12 | - Some code cleanup re adding combatants |
| 10:46.50 | CIA-12 | - Folded in Cryects sync throttle improvements from live. |
| 10:47.34 | [SW]Dodge | cncfanatics: ill try it :X |
| 10:48.24 | Grum | [SW]Dodge: use a decent editor? |
| 10:48.37 | cncfanatics | Grum: I already said that :p |
| 10:48.54 | Grum | lets say it again? |
| 10:48.57 | ramoz | hm |
| 10:49.04 | Nerox | Can anyone tell me why I get this error when I log into WoW. |
| 10:49.04 | Grum | ~lart [SW]Dodge |
| 10:49.04 | purl | holds [SW]Dodge to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 10:49.05 | ramoz | Eredar twins down on PTR already? |
| 10:49.07 | Nerox | [2008/02/17 02:47:34-379-x1]: AutoBar\Core.lua:41: Cannot find a library instance of "LibBabble-Spell-3.0".Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `LibStub'AutoBar\Core.lua:41: in main chunk |
| 10:49.19 | Grum | Nerox: how did you install your addons? |
| 10:49.26 | Nerox | WAU with Externals |
| 10:49.50 | Grum | then it seems Autobar missed one |
| 10:50.34 | Grum | just install it manually for the time being |
| 10:50.53 | Nerox | Will do, Thanks. :) |
| 10:51.35 | durcyn | no, LibBabbleSpell-3.0 is set in the AutoBar/libs externals property |
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| 10:52.36 | Tem | What purpose does BabbleSpell serve now? |
| 10:52.45 | Tem | with 2.4, I don't see a reason for it to exist |
| 10:52.53 | Snago | 2.4 isn't live yet :P |
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| 10:52.56 | Elsia | if the UI shows spell names |
| 10:53.05 | Tem | Elsia, GetSpellInfo |
| 10:53.11 | Tem | first return is the localized spell name |
| 10:53.12 | Elsia | ah true actually |
| 10:53.28 | Elsia | well what do I know, recount no longer uses Babble-Spell ;) |
| 10:54.15 | Tem | Snago, live stops mattering once a PTR goes up |
| 10:55.05 | Tem | same applies to TBC once a LK server is up that I can get to |
| 10:55.41 | durcyn | the hell, he's trying to load bs3 with libstub |
| 10:56.02 | durcyn | christ this autobar code is ugly |
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| 10:56.44 | Fisker- | GET IN THE VAN |
| 10:56.59 | Tem | V& |
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| 10:58.37 | [SW]Dodge | cncfanatics: Grum: any suggestion for a good editor to convert newlines? |
| 10:58.59 | chexsum_ | !scite |
| 10:59.04 | Grum | convert newlines? |
| 10:59.05 | chexsum_ | ~scite |
| 10:59.13 | Snago | Notepad++ |
| 10:59.33 | [SW]Dodge | to remove the problem wit the linendings in my unicode file |
| 11:00.04 | chexsum_ | scite = open source gui editor aimed at programmers |
| 11:00.32 | charon | rumours are you can now run windows under emacs... that should do the trick too |
| 11:00.46 | Snago | ~notepad++ |
| 11:01.01 | chexsum_ | emacs is old school |
| 11:01.36 | Grum | use vim ;) |
| 11:01.45 | cncfanatics | I'd go for notepad++ personaly |
| 11:01.46 | chexsum_ | the guy that writes it doesnt use a mouse ffs :P |
| 11:01.48 | cncfanatics | if Iwas on windows |
| 11:01.57 | cncfanatics | vim > all |
| 11:02.01 | Grum | vim>* |
| 11:02.10 | chexsum_ | i use vim/scite |
| 11:02.12 | charon | you can always hit C-u 1 M-x toggle-newfangled-stuff RET if you don't like it old school ;) |
| 11:04.40 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r61716 10WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua: WhoLib: Set the default mode to stop background queries while the friendsframe is open |
| 11:04.48 | Worf | hmm ... let me guess: the only way to keep grid from resetting the out-of-range-distance to 28m is to use seperate profiles for all chars ...? |
| 11:05.08 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r61717 10FuBar_WhoLibFu/FuBar_WhoLibFu.lua: FuBar_WhoLibFu: Fix errors when WhoLib hasnt loaded yet (again) |
| 11:05.09 | CIA-12 | 03durcyn * r61718 10AutoBar/embeds.xml: AutoBar: invoke LibBabble-Spell-3.0 properly - you know, so it actually works. |
| 11:05.11 | durcyn | Nerox: try that |
| 11:07.24 | Atron | how hard is it to use a module from a hud as a standalone addon? |
| 11:08.26 | Grum | euh? |
| 11:09.07 | Atron | i am currently using Icehud just for the combopoints module |
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| 11:09.17 | durcyn | Atron: onerous. closest you could get without writing any code would be to run the core addon with one module |
| 11:09.32 | Atron | it would be nice if i could use the combopoints module and not load icehud |
| 11:09.48 | durcyn | but, er, aren't there plenty of other useful combopoint addons already |
| 11:10.01 | Atron | not really |
| 11:10.16 | Atron | i did try many and icehud is the best for me |
| 11:10.21 | durcyn | thought kergoth had published something spiffy once upon a time |
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| 11:12.20 | Zhinjio | g'day Tekkub. |
| 11:12.33 | Tekkub | nope, toothache |
| 11:12.36 | Atron | the only problem i have with the icehud module its that i cannot move it, just up * down |
| 11:12.40 | Zhinjio | ugh, sorry. |
| 11:13.03 | durcyn | oh, so it was you that fucked up his tooth, eh? |
| 11:13.05 | Tekkub | coupled with playing drums on Rock Band |
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| 11:15.24 | CIA-12 | 03dodge * r61719 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:15.24 | CIA-12 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 11:15.24 | CIA-12 | - added some translations (currently just Spellnames for Cooldown grouping, i hope it works) |
| 11:16.07 | [SW]Dodge | ok, and now i have to find a way to add the unicode files >.< |
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| 11:17.53 | cncfanatics | [SW]Dodge: WoW fails at unicode tbh |
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| 11:18.26 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r61720 10AuctionProfit/AuctionProfit.lua: |
| 11:18.26 | CIA-12 | AuctionProfit: |
| 11:18.26 | CIA-12 | - relativePoint from APFrame is now saved too |
| 11:18.26 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.33 | nevcairiel | wow works fine with unicode |
| 11:18.38 | nevcairiel | its people that fail at it |
| 11:20.00 | [SW]Dodge | i fail at unicode :< |
| 11:21.01 | Arrowmaster | wows fonts fail at unicode though |
| 11:22.09 | Arrowmaster | from the limited testing i did i couldnt get anything beyond extended ascii to work even though arial narrow has other unicode glyphs |
| 11:22.10 | [SW]Dodge | maybe... but there are alot of addons using zhTW/zhCN/koKR translations will that mean all thes translations fail? :E |
| 11:22.30 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 11:22.41 | Gandharva | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/82473 |
| 11:22.43 | Arrowmaster | those languages use different base fonts |
| 11:25.54 | CIA-12 | 03dodge * r61721 10CoolDownButtons/CoolDownButtons.toc: |
| 11:25.54 | CIA-12 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 11:25.54 | CIA-12 | - updated Toc, currently no zhCN/zhTW/koKR locales (if you want them translate it and submit to me :P) |
| 11:25.54 | CIA-12 | - you can translate the other languages also, currently they just contain translated spells for grouping ;) |
| 11:32.27 | Ordog | any auctioneer alternatives up to date? |
| 11:32.36 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with auctioneer? |
| 11:32.46 | Ordog | no stable versions |
| 11:32.57 | nevcairiel | i never had issues with it |
| 11:33.12 | Ordog | well the current release made me unable to post auctions |
| 11:33.14 | Ordog | ;P |
| 11:33.23 | Grum | no, you have both the old and the new auctioneer |
| 11:33.32 | Grum | delete 'Auctioneer' from your addon folder |
| 11:33.39 | Grum | you should only have Auc-* folders |
| 11:33.50 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/Teeth.jpg |
| 11:33.55 | Ozguli | didn't know that about nelves |
| 11:34.40 | Nerox | The only problem that I have with auctioneer is with all my addons running from startup up until I open the AH window. I keep around 58MB usage. Then when Auctioneer loads in a matter of 20 minutes my MB usage jumps up to 187MB and crashes out my WoW. |
| 11:35.06 | Ordog | which version are you using? |
| 11:35.13 | Ordog | and which "bundle" |
| 11:35.40 | CIA-12 | 03wang * r61722 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-zhCN.lua: |
| 11:35.40 | CIA-12 | DrDamage: |
| 11:35.40 | CIA-12 | - zhCN update |
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| 11:36.27 | Nerox | AuctioneerAdvanced Suite. The one from Feb 1st |
| 11:36.55 | Ordog | the full blown feature overkill then? :P |
| 11:38.15 | Nerox | Yeah, I have a few of the things turned off that I figured out I didn't need. |
| 11:38.44 | Nerox | I'm thinking about reverting back to Classic. |
| 11:39.29 | Gandharva | ~seen antiarc |
| 11:39.30 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 80 messages. Is idling for 2h 38m 51s, last said: 'I'm voiced'. |
| 11:40.49 | Grum | Adv>Classic |
| 11:40.56 | Ordog | well i was happy with the auctioneer, stubby, enhtooltip pack ... all i need rly |
| 11:40.58 | Grum | if you actually do selling, appraiser ftw |
| 11:41.27 | Nerox | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.39 | Ordog | what does it? |
| 11:41.56 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r61723 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender4: add state support for the possess bar |
| 11:42.27 | Nerox | Anyone in guild chat or party or in a whisper can type in something like ? [stack size] [item] and it'll tell them in a PM the current price of that stack and/or item is going for in the AH |
| 11:42.40 | sb_ | nevcairiel: possess bar = teron pet bar? |
| 11:42.51 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 11:42.55 | Ordog | and if bt3 works like a charm is there a reason to get bt4 ? |
| 11:42.56 | nevcairiel | and mindcontrol |
| 11:42.56 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 11:42.56 | CIA-12 | 03diablohu * r61724 10PallyPower/locale/zhCN.lua: |
| 11:42.56 | CIA-12 | PallyPower: |
| 11:42.56 | CIA-12 | - zhCN update |
| 11:42.58 | sb_ | ah nice :) |
| 11:43.07 | sb_ | works finally in 2.4? |
| 11:43.19 | nevcairiel | works in 2.3 too |
| 11:43.21 | Grum | bt3 works fine with that as well |
| 11:43.30 | sb_ | oh |
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| 11:43.38 | sb_ | nevcairiel: BT4 ETA? already usable? |
| 11:43.42 | Ordog | bt4 is for 2.4 only i guess? |
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| 11:44.31 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61725 10Bartender3/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender3: possess bar should always work, even if stances are disabled |
| 11:45.31 | nevcairiel | nah there are no changes in 2.4 to actionbar stuff |
| 11:47.39 | Nerox | Is Auc-Scan Data really needed or is it something I can disable/ |
| 11:47.53 | Lukian | Nerox, #norganna |
| 11:47.56 | nevcairiel | scan data should be LoD |
| 11:48.04 | nevcairiel | and only load when you need it |
| 11:48.07 | nevcairiel | but yes, its needed |
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| 11:50.27 | Snago | What is an AceConfig3 validate function supposed to return to indicate that the input is valid? |
| 11:50.35 | Nerox | Is there anyway to dump the data and start fresh? When it loads it adds another 19.8MB and seems likes it starts a mem leak |
| 11:51.09 | Lukian | Nerox, you can just delete the savedvariable file |
| 11:51.09 | Snago | Nerox: Exit wow and delete the SavedVar file |
| 11:51.22 | nevcairiel | Snago: true for valid, false for invalid, or a string with a error message that will be displayed in the statusbar |
| 11:51.34 | Snago | ok, thanks |
| 11:53.51 | Zedde | is there a new update software ? |
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| 11:55.31 | CIA-12 | 03diablohu * r61726 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua): |
| 11:55.31 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:55.32 | CIA-12 | - zhCN update |
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| 11:55.49 | Olison | someone please code a damage/healing-totals addon for the battleground score window :< |
| 11:56.37 | kebinusan | Id be far more concerned with average time to complete a bg ls |
| 11:56.42 | kebinusan | bleh |
| 11:56.51 | kebinusan | what I get for switching windows halfway throug a thought |
| 11:57.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 12:01.01 | Gandharva | I need someone to fix Quartz swingtimer on PTR :) |
| 12:01.29 | nevcairiel | if you tell me how =P |
| 12:02.30 | Gandharva | then i could fix it on my own ^^ |
| 12:02.32 | durcyn | what's it (not) doing? |
| 12:02.44 | Gandharva | swingtimer does not work for melee |
| 12:02.50 | Gandharva | shows nothing |
| 12:03.06 | Gandharva | for hunters it works |
| 12:03.41 | Civrock | Yeah, I mentioned that in Quartz' official thread the day the 2.4 PTR opened. :P |
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| 12:03.50 | Civrock | <- Warrior |
| 12:04.21 | Civrock | I think it relies on combatlog events to trigger and that obviously doesn't work in 2.4. |
| 12:04.50 | Ozguli | quartz doesn't want to show gcd for my druid |
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| 12:05.19 | CIA-12 | 03wang * r61727 10Proximo2/locals/localization-zhCN.lua: |
| 12:05.19 | CIA-12 | Proximo2 |
| 12:05.19 | CIA-12 | - zhCN update |
| 12:06.01 | Gandharva | Civrock: yes, but i have no idea how to fix this. need some help :) |
| 12:06.27 | Civrock | I know, me neither. :P |
| 12:06.28 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:06.58 | Snago | ~api GetSubZoneText |
| 12:06.58 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSubZoneText |
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| 12:09.34 | nevcairiel | whats the easiest way to detect if a combatlog event was "me"? in 2.4, obviously |
| 12:09.40 | nevcairiel | not sure which flags i need to catch |
| 12:09.46 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61728 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): LibBabble-Boss-3.0: Initial commit, copied from Babble-2.2. |
| 12:10.37 | nevcairiel | ah they predefine COMBATLOG_FILTER_ME |
| 12:10.44 | wereHamster | what's the difference between babble 2 and 3? |
| 12:10.54 | durcyn | wereHamster: LibStub |
| 12:12.31 | Lukian | w |
| 12:13.18 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61729 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/ (BigWigs_CommonAuras.toc CommonAuras.lua embeds.xml libs/): BigWigs_CommonAuras: Babble-Spell-3.0. |
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| 12:18.27 | Gandharva | the problem in quartz swingtimer is CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS (Replaced in 2.4.0 with COMBAT_LOG_EVENT) |
| 12:18.55 | Civrock | There are probably a bunch of incompatible events in Swing.lua. |
| 12:21.05 | Gandharva | don't think so. hunter autoshot is working. so there's not that much i think. |
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| 12:21.52 | Civrock | The easier to fix, the better. ;) |
| 12:22.11 | Civrock | Somebody get on that! |
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| 12:23.12 | Gandharva | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_MISSES / CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS -> the 2 related to meleeing |
| 12:23.21 | nevcairiel | man blizzard |
| 12:23.29 | nevcairiel | COMBATLOG_FILTER_ME is defined twice in their code |
| 12:23.40 | nevcairiel | once in the CombatLog.lua file with the bitflags, like you expect it |
| 12:23.49 | nevcairiel | and once in GlobalStrings.lua saying "Me" |
| 12:23.50 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 12:24.35 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85-127-128-50.static.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 12:27.12 | Fisker- | in blood? |
| 12:28.05 | sag_ich_nicht | hold prx while i force-update my WAU |
| 12:28.09 | sag_ich_nicht | since it fails at autoupdating |
| 12:28.20 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61730 10Quartz/Swing/Swing.lua: |
| 12:28.20 | CIA-12 | Quartz: |
| 12:28.20 | CIA-12 | - Swingtimer: fix for 2.4 |
| 12:28.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wau |
| 12:28.25 | purl | well, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 12:29.11 | Civrock | Wait, is that Swing.lua still gonna work on live? |
| 12:29.34 | Gandharva | nevcairiel: \o/ |
| 12:29.53 | nevcairiel | yes it will work in live too |
| 12:29.59 | Civrock | Excellent. |
| 12:31.00 | *** join/#wowace xmanii (n=findme@71-215-3-74.spkn.qwest.net) |
| 12:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | WAU fails at installing from setup.exe |
| 12:31.04 | sag_ich_nicht | fail. |
| 12:31.12 | sb_ | you fail! |
| 12:31.35 | durcyn | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:31.35 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
| 12:31.36 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 12:31.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i run setup.exe |
| 12:31.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it errors. |
| 12:31.48 | sag_ich_nicht | thus: fail. |
| 12:31.51 | Fisker- | i run your mother :D |
| 12:31.52 | Fisker- | it errors |
| 12:33.20 | CIA-12 | 03trasher * r61731 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 12:33.20 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:33.20 | CIA-12 | - frFR update |
| 12:35.33 | Orionshock | does assessment have a "Damage Taken Per Second" tag? |
| 12:37.39 | Ordog | any sign for pvp reward getting cheaper with 2.4 ? |
| 12:38.49 | Snago | ~jwu |
| 12:38.50 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 12:39.00 | Snago | jwu > wau imo |
| 12:39.10 | sag_ich_nicht | whatever, WAU works now |
| 12:40.17 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now the question is if the cronjob run or not |
| 12:40.38 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5B228968.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:40.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yupp did |
| 12:42.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 12:42.23 | sag_ich_nicht | does the babble compatibility layer 3.0>2.2 work? |
| 12:43.06 | sag_ich_nicht | running 2.2 AND 3.0 seems kind of dumb(and loading time increasing :P) |
| 12:43.45 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 12:45.03 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61732 10NRT/ (NRT.lua NRT.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 12:45.03 | CIA-12 | NRT: |
| 12:45.03 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.03 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.47 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 12:45.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 12:45.59 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61733 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua BananaDKP.toc libs/): BananaDKP: Remove Babble-Class-2.2. |
| 12:47.20 | *** part/#wowace ramoz (n=ramoz@nikita.modservers.net) |
| 12:47.31 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61734 10FuBar_PTReagentFu/ (FuBar_PTReagentFu.toc PTReagentFu.lua embeds.xml libs/): FuBar_PTReagentFu: Remove Babble-Class-2.2. |
| 12:47.51 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 12:48.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i say something about babble 3.0/2.2 and 5 minutes later 3 commits concerning babble removal or change |
| 12:48.33 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61735 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua embeds.xml libs/): FuBar_GroupFu: Remove Babble-Class-2.2. |
| 12:48.37 | sag_ich_nicht | gaaaah |
| 12:50.40 | nevcairiel | your compy will run faster |
| 12:50.41 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:50.42 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61736 10oRA2/ (Libs/ Participant/Participant.lua embeds.xml oRA2.toc): oRA2: Use LibBabble-Spell-3.0. |
| 12:51.51 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: i'm just deleting the "old" libs to see how many don't have an compatbility layer and how many addons will yell at me |
| 12:52.06 | nevcairiel | compat layers ftl |
| 12:52.55 | sag_ich_nicht | better than loading nearly identical data twice |
| 12:53.02 | sag_ich_nicht | *cough*babble*cough* |
| 12:53.04 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 12:53.05 | *** join/#wowace whizter (n=whizter@dslb-088-077-029-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:53.40 | sag_ich_nicht | does LibSharedMedia-2.0 do comp. with SharedMediaLib ? :> |
| 12:54.18 | sag_ich_nicht | okay has one. |
| 12:55.45 | *** join/#wowace dabujo (i=xx@p4FDB1EC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:56.57 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61737 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BuffWindow.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 12:56.57 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 12:56.57 | CIA-12 | - use LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 12:57.15 | Orionshock | does bb check for texture or name? |
| 12:57.15 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: ping |
| 12:57.51 | Funkeh` | vhaarr, pong |
| 12:57.59 | sag_ich_nicht | can't dodge bitch! |
| 12:58.11 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I'm about to commit bigwigs using babble 3.0 libs, can you help me convert all the 3rd party addons? |
| 12:58.14 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 vhaarr is level 75 and in fact, can |
| 12:58.15 | CIA-12 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61738 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels, fixed typo |
| 12:58.41 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61739 10HotCandy/ (Core.lua HotCandy.toc embeds.xml libs/): HotCandy: use LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 12:58.41 | vhaarr | if not I'll do them all myself but there are a few |
| 12:58.53 | *** join/#wowace home|prophy (n=prophy@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 12:59.56 | Funkeh` | vhaarr, can't right this moment sorry, can do later if you want to split the load |
| 13:00.12 | vhaarr | okay, I'll just start then and I'll see how it goes |
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| 13:00.35 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r61740 10/branches/LibQuixote-2.0/ (7 files in 2 dirs): LibQuixote-2.0: Initial import to branches. All libstubby. Relies on 2.4's unique quest ids. No comms yet. |
| 13:01.17 | kebinusan | shit |
| 13:01.26 | kebinusan | just did rm -rf babble * instead of babble* |
| 13:02.00 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:02.01 | sag_ich_nicht | owned |
| 13:02.11 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61741 10BigWigs/ (59 files in 11 dirs): BigWigs: Use Babble-Zone-3.0 and Babble-Boss-3.0. |
| 13:02.17 | sag_ich_nicht | don't use rm -rf |
| 13:02.18 | sag_ich_nicht | ! |
| 13:02.26 | cncfanatics | kebinusan: fail |
| 13:02.28 | sag_ich_nicht | at least not with global placeholders |
| 13:02.29 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 13:02.32 | kebinusan | only got 3 the A's before I figured it out |
| 13:02.35 | cncfanatics | kebinusan: was the babble folder in / ? :) |
| 13:02.42 | kebinusan | hehe just my addons |
| 13:03.06 | cncfanatics | wish it was in / lol |
| 13:03.27 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r61742 10/branches/BetterQuestTracker/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BetterQuestTracker: My test addon for LibQuixote-2.0 and Ace3. (Needs 2.4, though only for inline textures.) |
| 13:03.29 | Recluse | i wish npc (ala escorts) threat could show on threat meter |
| 13:03.50 | cncfanatics | Recluse: there is no way to calculate it reliably :( |
| 13:04.03 | Recluse | yeah, i know, just a wish :p |
| 13:04.18 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61743 10MountUp/ (6 files in 2 dirs): MountUp: use LibBabble-Zone-3.0 and Spell-3.0 |
| 13:05.34 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo 07kemayo * r61744 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: Revision keyword. |
| 13:07.30 | sag_ich_nicht | okay. |
| 13:07.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail ckknight |
| 13:07.39 | purl | ckknight: Fail. |
| 13:07.49 | sag_ich_nicht | your compatibility lib fails horribly, ckknight |
| 13:09.07 | xlvii | world server is down :( |
| 13:09.28 | sag_ich_nicht | gratz |
| 13:10.08 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61745 10Quartz/ (Quartz.toc Swing/Swing.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 13:10.08 | CIA-12 | Quartz: |
| 13:10.08 | CIA-12 | - update swingtimer to LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 13:10.31 | kebinusan | I should probably learn not to do things like that when I just wake up |
| 13:10.45 | nevcairiel | wonder if i should bug Antiarc about a quick upgrade of Threat to Spell-3.0 or just wait for Threat-2.0 |
| 13:11.11 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 13:11.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` the SharedMediaLib compatibility layer fails horribly |
| 13:11.36 | durcyn | er, isn't B-S effectively deprecated by GetSpellInfo |
| 13:11.41 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I've already done it locally |
| 13:11.47 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: but I'm not sure if I should commit or not |
| 13:11.52 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: ask him |
| 13:11.58 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, i don't really care |
| 13:12.06 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc1-cove9-0-0-cust541.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:12.10 | Funkeh` | i didn't make it nor do i suport it |
| 13:12.15 | nevcairiel | durcyn: sure it does, but 2.4 is still month away on live |
| 13:15.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: then i had the commitlog memorized wrong, sorry. |
| 13:17.16 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61746 10BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: |
| 13:17.16 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 13:17.16 | CIA-12 | - add babble to the toc as well |
| 13:17.32 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait i didn't |
| 13:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | unless i'm confusing nicks now |
| 13:17.55 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61747 10/trunk/ (70 files in 15 dirs): .BigWigs 3rd party modules: Update to use Babble 3.0 lib globals from BigWigs core. |
| 13:18.37 | Saroz_ | vhaarr |
| 13:18.37 | Saroz_ | fgs |
| 13:18.41 | Saroz_ | <Script file="libs\LibBabble-Boss-3.0\lib.xml"/> |
| 13:18.47 | Saroz_ | Include man, Include |
| 13:18.49 | vhaarr | gah |
| 13:18.51 | vhaarr | where? |
| 13:18.54 | Saroz_ | NRT |
| 13:19.27 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61748 10NRT/embeds.xml: NRT: Crap. |
| 13:21.18 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@s5591207c.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 13:21.53 | nevcairiel | so only Threat-1.0 left that uses babble-boss-2.2 and spell-2.2 |
| 13:21.54 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 13:21.58 | vhaarr | and Omen |
| 13:21.59 | nevcairiel | on my addon set anyway |
| 13:22.06 | nevcairiel | i count that in threat =P |
| 13:22.09 | vhaarr | but yeah |
| 13:22.10 | vhaarr | same here |
| 13:22.17 | vhaarr | I have them converted but Antiarc is sleeping I guess |
| 13:22.28 | *** join/#wowace home|prophy (n=prophy@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 13:22.45 | vhaarr | the only babble-2.2 lib I can't get completely rid of is Class |
| 13:22.53 | vhaarr | so think I'll convert it to 3.0 as well |
| 13:23.02 | nevcairiel | what do you need class for? |
| 13:23.10 | nevcairiel | UnitClass second return value is alwasys english |
| 13:23.27 | vhaarr | ye, the addons that use it can probably be converted to work without it |
| 13:23.40 | vhaarr | s/converted/fixed/ |
| 13:23.49 | vhaarr | but it's less work to make class-3.0 :P |
| 13:24.08 | nevcairiel | meh i would rather teach people to use unitclass correctly =P |
| 13:24.22 | vhaarr | oh, and Threat-1.0 needs Babble-Race-2.2 to translate "Imp" in the warlock module |
| 13:24.39 | nevcairiel | as long as i dont have two copys of any babble its fine |
| 13:24.46 | nevcairiel | i can run the babble-*-2.2 standalone |
| 13:24.50 | nevcairiel | so no issue there :P |
| 13:24.53 | vhaarr | yeah that's what I do now |
| 13:26.59 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r61749 10Bartender4/Bartender4/Bartender4.toc: Bartender4: toc update |
| 13:27.24 | Daemona | uuh stupid question probably, can i check out a branch via fisheye? |
| 13:27.38 | nevcairiel | i think thats broken |
| 13:27.39 | nevcairiel | actually |
| 13:28.01 | Daemona | ok, then i am not stupid, anonymous checkout via svn isnt enabled right? |
| 13:28.09 | vhaarr | yes it is |
| 13:28.29 | nevcairiel | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ |
| 13:28.32 | Daemona | guess its time to get an svn account then i guess to check out some addons on the ptr. |
| 13:28.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:21] <nevcairiel> so only Threat-1.0 left that uses babble-boss-2.2 and spell-2.2 <--and Decursive |
| 13:28.39 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 13:28.41 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: i dont use that, so gtfo :P |
| 13:28.53 | vhaarr | Daemona: what part of "yes" do you not understand? :P |
| 13:29.00 | vhaarr | you don't need an account |
| 13:29.11 | nevcairiel | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ <-- anonymous url |
| 13:29.19 | nevcairiel | s/svn/dev/ |
| 13:29.27 | nevcairiel | ^^ login url |
| 13:29.39 | Daemona | < stupid |
| 13:30.27 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=Next96@121.129.140.110) |
| 13:30.43 | nevcairiel | thats what you get from playing horde |
| 13:32.53 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F57114.versanet.de) |
| 13:33.17 | Ordog | could somebody tell me if there is a change in pvp reward pricing or availability on the PTR ? |
| 13:36.02 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61750 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: fix spellicon for Babble-3.0 |
| 13:37.17 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=evolve@246.89-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 13:38.58 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61751 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.lua Omen.toc embeds.xml): Omen: Use Babble-Spell-3.0 and remove -Boss, since it's not used. |
| 13:39.22 | vhaarr | hm |
| 13:39.29 | vhaarr | my bad |
| 13:39.38 | nevcairiel | what does Omen need spell for anyway? |
| 13:39.56 | vhaarr | Righteous Fury only |
| 13:40.07 | nevcairiel | stupid pallys |
| 13:40.15 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10908.new#new |
| 13:40.18 | cncfanatics | why use it for a single spell ? |
| 13:40.21 | cncfanatics | seems like a bit of a waste :p |
| 13:40.28 | Industrial | WHY does the forum link to .new#new |
| 13:40.29 | Recluse | cncfanatics: was wondering the same lol |
| 13:40.29 | Daemona | another stupid question, to get working threat meter -> check out threat-2.0 and omen? or isnt that anywhere close to working? |
| 13:40.31 | nevcairiel | threat needs it anyway |
| 13:40.32 | Tem | if that's the case, then just localize Righteous fury yourself |
| 13:40.32 | Industrial | anoying crap |
| 13:40.33 | nevcairiel | so whats the point |
| 13:40.46 | durcyn | early alpha, Daemona |
| 13:41.12 | nevcairiel | Daemona: you can try it, but its not working right now :) |
| 13:41.21 | nevcairiel | looks like Antiarc forgot to commit one file :D |
| 13:41.28 | durcyn | oh, that reminds me |
| 13:41.33 | Daemona | haha ok |
| 13:41.56 | Daemona | just wanted to try to ease our brutalus tries |
| 13:42.26 | nevcairiel | not sure you can rely on it yet |
| 13:42.37 | *** join/#wowace quackgoesthecow (n=quackgoe@221.220.176.96) |
| 13:42.44 | Daemona | any estimate would be a gain ;) |
| 13:42.47 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61752 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc embeds.xml): Omen: Add back boss-3.0, since Threat-1.0 needs it. |
| 13:43.02 | Daemona | seems we got some dps that lost any feel for their threat |
| 13:43.06 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61753 10Threat-1.0/ (43 files in 17 dirs): Threat-1.0: Use 3.0 babble libs where available. |
| 13:43.09 | CIA-12 | 03durcyn 072.4 * r61754 10Omen/Localization/ (. enUS.lua): Omen: add missing enUS localization file |
| 13:43.11 | durcyn | that's at least a placeholder until Antiarc commits the proper one, only works on enUS clients |
| 13:43.38 | nevcairiel | Daemona: then ptr is the perfect time to learn that again |
| 13:43.45 | Daemona | ;) |
| 13:43.51 | *** part/#wowace quackgoesthecow (n=quackgoe@221.220.176.96) |
| 13:43.51 | Daemona | i am fine, i am rogue ;) |
| 13:45.05 | nevcairiel | Industrial you discovered that post now? thats like old =P |
| 13:47.52 | CIA-12 | 03trasher * r61755 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.fr.lua: |
| 13:47.52 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:47.52 | CIA-12 | - frFR UTF-8 Parsing |
| 13:49.16 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r61756 10beql/locales/localization-de.lua: beql: deDE update (thanks Cybot) |
| 13:50.08 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 13:52.01 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61757 10StatLogicLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): StatLogicLib: use LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 13:52.09 | Industrial | 2008-01-17, 13:48:19 |
| 13:52.10 | Industrial | nevcairiel: ? |
| 13:52.19 | Industrial | okay its a month old :p |
| 13:52.19 | nevcairiel | purl: date |
| 13:52.20 | purl | It is now 2008.02.17 13:52:20 GMT |
| 13:52.44 | Industrial | but noone had even debated the contents |
| 13:52.56 | Industrial | so I see no reason not to post :p |
| 13:53.01 | Industrial | the convo isnt "finished" |
| 13:53.08 | nevcairiel | its better to ignore sylvannar |
| 13:53.16 | nevcairiel | then feed the troll |
| 13:53.44 | nevcairiel | wee i got rid of babble-spell-2.2 now |
| 13:54.08 | nevcairiel | only got Babble-Class-2.2 and Babble-Inventory-2.2 left |
| 13:54.44 | nevcairiel | oh and zone |
| 13:54.45 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 13:55.44 | CIA-12 | 03dodge * r61758 10CoolDownButtons/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:55.44 | CIA-12 | CoolDownButtons: fixed new locales.. i should test for errors before commiting /shy |
| 13:55.44 | CIA-12 | ~fail [SW]Dodge |
| 13:55.44 | purl | [SW]Dodge: Fail. |
| 13:55.53 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:56.13 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 13:56.29 | nevcairiel | meh fucking tourist lib uses Babble-Zone-2.2 |
| 13:56.51 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel do you mean TouristLib or LibTourist-3.0 ? |
| 13:57.00 | nevcairiel | the old one |
| 13:57.10 | sag_ich_nicht | the new one has a comp. layer for the old one |
| 13:57.29 | sag_ich_nicht | so: fuck the old one |
| 13:57.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 13:57.34 | nevcairiel | compatlayers ftl |
| 13:57.39 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ much? |
| 13:58.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i know it enforces author laziness yaddayaddayadda |
| 13:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | -- Comment #15 from Scott Werndorfer <smw@ceruleanstudios.com> 2008-02-15 17:53:00 --- |
| 13:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Good news to those of you following this bug - I've caved and will be doing |
| 13:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | this in a future build when we tackle the last few identity issues on our list |
| 13:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | before beta. I hope to allow override options for display name and possibly |
| 13:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | icons, but I'm not promising the latter. |
| 13:59.05 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck yes |
| 14:00.00 | durcyn | oh my, people still use trillian? |
| 14:00.31 | sag_ich_nicht | alpha of trillian astra |
| 14:00.33 | vhaarr | how can you use a client that costs money when there are so many good free ones? |
| 14:00.40 | sag_ich_nicht | because i like it |
| 14:00.42 | vhaarr | I'd even run msn through wine before I paid for something |
| 14:00.43 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'm in the alpha test |
| 14:00.46 | sag_ich_nicht | so it doesn't cost me shit |
| 14:01.07 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr: i think the product is worth it's price, you don't, we disagree, okay. fine. discussion over. |
| 14:01.17 | vhaarr | hey, did I say more? |
| 14:01.23 | vhaarr | I didn't discuss anything |
| 14:01.27 | *** kick/#wowace [sag_ich_nicht!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (fuck you) |
| 14:01.27 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85-127-128-50.static.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:01.27 | durcyn | pidgin or death, sag_ich_nicht . |
| 14:01.30 | durcyn | what say you |
| 14:01.32 | sag_ich_nicht | stop trying to force FOSS and freeware down my throat :( |
| 14:02.03 | durcyn | or death! |
| 14:02.07 | sag_ich_nicht | diaf |
| 14:02.22 | Stanzilla | I tried the trillian astra alpha and it was crap :( |
| 14:02.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Stanzilla you are a pirate |
| 14:02.29 | sag_ich_nicht | gtfo |
| 14:02.35 | Stanzilla | yarrr |
| 14:02.36 | sag_ich_nicht | also you probably tried some really old build |
| 14:02.43 | Stanzilla | I'm in the alpha test, too |
| 14:02.46 | Stanzilla | so no pirate.. |
| 14:02.48 | sag_ich_nicht | oh okay. |
| 14:02.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 72 is working fine |
| 14:03.02 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61759 10SmartQueue/ (6 files): |
| 14:03.02 | CIA-12 | SmartQueue: |
| 14:03.02 | CIA-12 | - switch to LibBabble-Zone-3.0 |
| 14:03.08 | Stanzilla | I might try it in a vm |
| 14:03.49 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 14:03.54 | sag_ich_nicht | only thing pissing me of is the bug i pasted above |
| 14:03.59 | sag_ich_nicht | but that will be fixed soon hopefull<y |
| 14:04.01 | sag_ich_nicht | -< |
| 14:04.01 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 14:04.16 | Fisker- | [2008/02/17 15:02:52-3030-x1]: BigBrother\BigBrother.lua:24: Cannot find a library instance of "LibBabble-Spell-3.0".Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `LibStub'BigBrother\BigBrother.lua:24: in main chunk |
| 14:04.16 | Fisker- | :O |
| 14:04.47 | nevcairiel | qq more |
| 14:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no u |
| 14:05.18 | nevcairiel | update, restart game, all works |
| 14:05.25 | Fisker- | already did |
| 14:05.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- bettr install LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 14:05.56 | Fisker- | it is |
| 14:05.58 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
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| 14:06.06 | Fisker- | else i wouldn't have bothered posting it |
| 14:06.09 | sag_ich_nicht | no acutally |
| 14:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | *actually |
| 14:06.10 | Fisker- | i know exactly what it means |
| 14:06.14 | Cheads | enabled? |
| 14:06.19 | sag_ich_nicht | `LibStub'BigBrother\ |
| 14:06.23 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 14:06.37 | sag_ich_nicht | this looks like a typo. is it one. |
| 14:06.39 | nevcairiel | thats a paste error |
| 14:06.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't habeeb it |
| 14:07.09 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: update, restart wow, all works |
| 14:07.54 | Fisker- | i started the game 15 minutes ago after doing an update |
| 14:07.58 | Fisker- | should work the first time |
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| 14:08.27 | nevcairiel | (14:17:12) (CIA-12) nevcairiel * r61746 BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: |
| 14:08.29 | nevcairiel | i fixed it then |
| 14:09.04 | [SW]Dodge | what is better? getglobal("framename") or _G["framename"] ? |
| 14:09.09 | nevcairiel | _G |
| 14:09.12 | [SW]Dodge | ty |
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| 14:10.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll update now. if anything breaks i blame you guys. |
| 14:11.10 | Fisker- | buff paladins |
| 14:11.21 | durcyn | nerf fiskerdin |
| 14:11.30 | Stanzilla | phyber: you could update topscorefu to Babble-Spell-3.0, too :) |
| 14:11.39 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61760 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (. LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc): |
| 14:11.39 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 14:11.39 | CIA-12 | - adapt .toc title to Library format |
| 14:12.45 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61761 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.toc: LibTourist-3.0: toc title change |
| 14:12.49 | Xinhuan | lua> _G[10] = "a" print(_G[10]) print(getglobal(10)) |
| 14:12.49 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a, luabot:1: attempt to call global 'getglobal' (a nil value) |
| 14:12.55 | Xinhuan | lua> _G[10] = "a" print(_G[10]) print(debug.getglobal(10)) |
| 14:12.56 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a, luabot:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value) |
| 14:13.03 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61762 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.toc: LibSharedMedia-2.0: toc title change |
| 14:13.05 | Xinhuan | lol lua_bot removed those too |
| 14:13.16 | Xinhuan | anyway, in game wow prints 10, nil |
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| 14:14.45 | Tem | getglobal is not function(k) return getfenv(0)[k] end |
| 14:14.46 | nevcairiel | you really never should be using getglobal |
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| 14:15.41 | nevcairiel | now for 2.4 to remove all those Parser libs |
| 14:15.44 | Xinhuan | lua_bot's implementation was function(k) return getfenv(0)[k] end though |
| 14:15.45 | nevcairiel | and my UI is much cleaner |
| 14:16.21 | Xinhuan | i'm waiting for someone to write a proper combat log addon (like hitsmod) |
| 14:16.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan do it yourself |
| 14:16.31 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 14:16.31 | Xinhuan | so that i can NOT load Blizzard_CombatLogUI |
| 14:16.46 | nevcairiel | for now, you need to load it anyway |
| 14:16.54 | nevcairiel | because it contains all the constants |
| 14:17.06 | Xinhuan | addon authors are copying out those constants |
| 14:17.12 | Xinhuan | i know antiarc is |
| 14:17.37 | durcyn | good, i cringe every time i see that hulking piece of shit that is now my ChatFrame2 |
| 14:17.57 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: only because they are in a LoD addon |
| 14:18.02 | nevcairiel | if they move them to some core FrameXML file |
| 14:18.04 | nevcairiel | all is fine |
| 14:18.10 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 14:18.17 | Tem | durcyn, chill out |
| 14:18.22 | Tem | it's a work in progress |
| 14:18.31 | Tem | obviously those nasty buttons are placeholders |
| 14:18.57 | nevcairiel | i _love_ the rightclick functionality in the log |
| 14:18.59 | nevcairiel | so awesome |
| 14:19.09 | Tem | yeah, most people don't even notice that it's there |
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| 14:19.32 | [SW]Dodge | rightclick functuonality? |
| 14:19.46 | durcyn | yes, you can right click on any actor or spell and get a context menu |
| 14:19.53 | nevcairiel | rightclick a line in the ptr combatlog |
| 14:19.54 | nevcairiel | == win |
| 14:19.55 | durcyn | that part's actually pretty well done |
| 14:20.10 | durcyn | it's hardcoding it all into chatframe2 that annoys me |
| 14:20.18 | nevcairiel | thats just a testing interface |
| 14:20.23 | nevcairiel | just wait for the next patches |
| 14:20.35 | nevcairiel | AlexanderYoshi already said its all in the works |
| 14:20.46 | durcyn | splendid |
| 14:21.57 | nevcairiel | i feel much cleaner now |
| 14:22.04 | nevcairiel | no babble lib doubled anymore |
| 14:22.16 | nevcairiel | not that i need them anyway |
| 14:22.17 | nevcairiel | but meh |
| 14:22.25 | nevcairiel | screw non-english |
| 14:22.25 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:22.55 | Xinhuan | hmm i wish alex would email me back, this is the first email he's nto responded ;p |
| 14:23.08 | nevcairiel | what did you ask? |
| 14:23.17 | Xinhuan | just general reports |
| 14:23.50 | nevcairiel | tell him GlobalStrings.lua overwrites some of the constants in the CombatLog.lua .. or other way arround actually |
| 14:23.57 | nevcairiel | globalstrings loads before |
| 14:24.00 | Xinhuan | are they the same values? |
| 14:24.04 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:24.11 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 14:24.27 | nevcairiel | globalstrings has some text values |
| 14:24.38 | nevcairiel | while the combatlog stores its bitflags in the same vars =P |
| 14:24.38 | Xinhuan | got an example constant? |
| 14:24.56 | nevcairiel | COMBATLOG_FILTER_ME |
| 14:25.04 | nevcairiel | is "Me" in GlobalStrings.lua |
| 14:25.11 | nevcairiel | and some bitmask in the combatlog thing |
| 14:25.27 | Xinhuan | ok i'll email that heh |
| 14:26.07 | nevcairiel | i wrote a ingame bug report, but no idea if those reach anyone |
| 14:26.27 | nevcairiel | especially on EU :P |
| 14:27.26 | Daemona | rumours say |
| 14:27.31 | Daemona | no gm support on eu realms |
| 14:27.39 | Daemona | (ptr) |
| 14:27.43 | Xinhuan | there is no gm support on any ptr realms |
| 14:27.46 | Xinhuan | they stated this already |
| 14:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian heal until oom for paladins isn't taking into account that not all paladins have illumination |
| 14:27.54 | Xinhuan | you can send gm tickets, but nobody will read them |
| 14:28.01 | Xinhuan | my last ticket on ptr was unread for 3 months |
| 14:28.05 | Xinhuan | (on 2.3 ptr) |
| 14:28.09 | sag_ich_nicht | thus giving me a casts till oom=infinity, which is not true D: |
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| 14:29.16 | Tem | Xinhuan, there is no GM staff for the PTRs |
| 14:29.27 | sag_ich_nicht | okay how do i get rid of the "spell not read" and "another action is in progress" error sounds. |
| 14:29.27 | Xinhuan | umm, that's what i said Tem |
| 14:29.27 | Tem | post bugs on forums |
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| 14:29.27 | Xinhuan | scroll up |
| 14:29.35 | Tem | d'oh |
| 14:29.38 | sag_ich_nicht | preferably with a toggle button to turn them on/off |
| 14:29.38 | Xinhuan | my anecdote is just support for what i said! |
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| 14:29.50 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: sounds --> error speech? |
| 14:30.11 | Tem | Xinhuan, this is what I get for-- ding 55-- playing wow and ircing at the same time |
| 14:30.31 | Tem | (yay for exploration exp) |
| 14:30.48 | CIA-12 | 03endeavour * r61763 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: Global AceComm Channel is now optional, see syncoptions |
| 14:31.10 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: that is only the "i can't do that yet" |
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| 14:31.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm reffering to the error sound |
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| 14:32.48 | sag_ich_nicht | nearly same butt not really same sound you get when opening the Escape menu and the other sound is a... well i don't know how to describe that one |
| 14:32.53 | sag_ich_nicht | both are pissing me off when spamming heals tho |
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| 14:34.30 | Tem | sag_ich_nicht, that sound is from the action bars |
| 14:34.37 | Tem | switch to a better action bar addon |
| 14:34.43 | Tem | (like bongos) |
| 14:34.48 | sag_ich_nicht | asdf |
| 14:35.12 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel i will kill you |
| 14:35.33 | nevcairiel | that sound is not from actionbars |
| 14:35.55 | nevcairiel | its the CastSpellbyName that fails |
| 14:36.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 14:36.13 | Tem | if so, then why don't I hear it anymore? |
| 14:36.19 | Tem | I used to get that sound |
| 14:36.22 | Tem | but I don't now |
| 14:36.36 | Chompers | TopScoreFu.lua:451: attempt to index local 'tPvP' (a nil value) |
| 14:36.41 | sag_ich_nicht | probably bongos doing something to the sound OR not using castspellbyname. |
| 14:36.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt the later kind of |
| 14:37.07 | JoshBorke | i think it's just that sag sucks |
| 14:37.14 | Tem | action bars don't use CSBN |
| 14:37.26 | Tem | UseAction |
| 14:38.01 | Tem | unless the action bar you're using is doing some kind of bastardized "fake" action button by using type="spell" |
| 14:38.14 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r61764 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 14:38.14 | CIA-12 | ClassTimer: |
| 14:38.14 | CIA-12 | - upgrade to LibSharedMedia-2.0 and LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 14:38.37 | phyber | Stanzilla: soon :) |
| 14:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | JoshBorke: no, this time it'd only be nevcairiel to blame |
| 14:38.46 | Stanzilla | phyber: cool :) |
| 14:39.49 | CIA-12 | 03trasher * r61765 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 14:39.49 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:39.49 | CIA-12 | - frFR update |
| 14:40.34 | Xinhuan | heh, what's with the upgrade frenzy today |
| 14:41.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:42] <sag_ich_nicht> does the babble compatibility layer 3.0>2.2 work? |
| 14:41.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:43] <sag_ich_nicht> running 2.2 AND 3.0 seems kind of dumb(and loading time increasing :P) |
| 14:41.04 | nevcairiel | i dont think its possible to suppress that sound |
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| 14:41.08 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:48] <sag_ich_nicht> i say something about babble 3.0/2.2 and 5 minutes later 3 commits concerning babble removal or change |
| 14:41.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: you can blame me if you want |
| 14:42.11 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: then why does Tem not get it :P |
| 14:42.19 | chexsum_ | fizzle sound |
| 14:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:38] <@Tem> unless the action bar you're using is doing some kind of bastardized "fake" action button by using type="spell" <--are you doing this with BT3 nevcairiel? D: |
| 14:42.34 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 14:42.49 | Tem | I wouldn't think so |
| 14:43.01 | CIA-12 | 03trasher * r61766 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 14:43.01 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:43.01 | CIA-12 | - frFR update |
| 14:43.16 | Tem | it's not possible to get a 100% imitation of an action button using type=spell |
| 14:43.42 | sag_ich_nicht | well whatever, why do i get the sound and you don't Tem? :P |
| 14:43.54 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 14:43.56 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61767 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: add sunwell island to the FogClear module |
| 14:43.58 | Xinhuan | which parts is not imitatable? |
| 14:44.00 | Tem | my guess is action buttons |
| 14:44.04 | kebinusan | can bt3 do that thing where the petbar and mainbar get swapped around if its a mind control / posession type thing |
| 14:44.06 | Tem | Xinhuan, I don't remember exactly |
| 14:44.12 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: yes |
| 14:44.19 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: as of yesterday actually |
| 14:44.21 | Tem | Xinhuan, ask cogwheel. He's always requesting features to get closer |
| 14:44.30 | Xinhuan | lol sure |
| 14:44.37 | kebinusan | ah ok, was going to say it didnt work with my steam tonk but I doubt I updated yesterday |
| 14:44.40 | kebinusan | I'll check it out |
| 14:44.42 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r61768 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc): |
| 14:44.42 | CIA-12 | ClassTimer: |
| 14:44.42 | CIA-12 | - small tweak |
| 14:44.47 | chexsum_ | google for fizzle sound to find out how to get rid of them |
| 14:44.54 | nevcairiel | the OnClick of any secure actionbutton is handled by the secure template, there is very little you can do there |
| 14:44.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel what the hell is the rollbar? |
| 14:45.11 | durcyn | group loot frames, SG|Ensey |
| 14:45.12 | durcyn | er sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:45.27 | sag_ich_nicht | oh. |
| 14:45.33 | nevcairiel | yeah people complained they wanted to move it |
| 14:45.38 | nevcairiel | i shouldnt have added it, but meh |
| 14:45.40 | sag_ich_nicht | wait what does BT3 do to the rollbar? |
| 14:46.04 | sag_ich_nicht | did you change the look of it(if that's even possible)? oÔ or just made it movable? |
| 14:46.16 | nevcairiel | movable and scaleable |
| 14:46.25 | durcyn | it's certainly possible to change the look, see extended loot frame and xloot-group |
| 14:46.36 | durcyn | all bt3 (and bongos fwiw) do is resize/move |
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| 14:47.20 | sag_ich_nicht | woho |
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| 14:58.41 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r61769 10GridStatusThreat/ (embeds.xml libs/): GridStatusThreat: use LibBabble-Boss-3.0 because Threat-1.0 needs it now |
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| 14:59.56 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.43 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.52 | kebinusan | hearth boom! |
| 15:01.27 | nevcairiel | gotta do that with parasites from illidan or something |
| 15:01.30 | nevcairiel | that would be fun |
| 15:01.47 | JoshBork1 | psp |
| 15:01.49 | JoshBork1 | lol |
| 15:02.13 | nevcairiel | but i think the cast is too long to actually make it work |
| 15:02.50 | JoshBork1 | proc a haste trinket first |
| 15:03.13 | nevcairiel | haste doesnt affec hearth anymore |
| 15:03.21 | nevcairiel | but maybe mage portal would work |
| 15:03.27 | JoshBork1 | lol |
| 15:03.49 | nevcairiel | its in the center of shatt, better then the stupid inn |
| 15:03.58 | JoshBork1 | yea |
| 15:04.04 | sag_ich_nicht | teleport imho |
| 15:04.13 | Tem | half cast gem works on teleport |
| 15:04.20 | Tem | hmm, I wonder |
| 15:04.29 | sag_ich_nicht | actually wait |
| 15:04.30 | sag_ich_nicht | get BA |
| 15:04.33 | sag_ich_nicht | then alterac invite. |
| 15:04.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 15:04.44 | Tem | if you get the half cast proc |
| 15:04.45 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 15:04.50 | Tem | can PoM make your teleport instant? |
| 15:05.02 | Orionshock | no |
| 15:05.09 | kebinusan | heroism, mind quickening gem, etc |
| 15:05.27 | Tem | Orionshock, have you tried it? |
| 15:05.30 | Orionshock | ya |
| 15:05.34 | Orionshock | we tried it one day |
| 15:05.38 | kebinusan | pom is spells less than 10 seconds |
| 15:05.42 | Tem | right |
| 15:05.53 | Tem | but while you have half cast, your teleports are 5s |
| 15:06.00 | durcyn | base cast time only |
| 15:06.07 | Tem | oviously it doesn't work like that |
| 15:06.17 | Tem | since Orionshock said it didn't work |
| 15:06.32 | durcyn | it worked once for a hot second before it was changed to base cast time |
| 15:07.07 | Tem | I wonder why they have that provision on PoM |
| 15:07.18 | Tem | I hardly see instant teleports as overpowered |
| 15:07.31 | Tem | oh noes. that mage can teleport instantly |
| 15:07.35 | Tem | when out of combat |
| 15:07.50 | Tem | so op |
| 15:08.10 | Tem | oh well, I'll probably never spec into pom so it doesn't matter |
| 15:08.25 | durcyn | it's basically a double pyroblast pvp gimmick now |
| 15:08.49 | Tem | AP spec is for noobs |
| 15:09.06 | Tem | and on that condescending note, I'm headed to bed |
| 15:11.29 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowinsider.com/photos/around-azeroth/644712/ < wtf? |
| 15:11.37 | Gnarfoz | I wanna use that |
| 15:12.12 | ScoTTie | kara fp ? |
| 15:12.16 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 15:15.32 | cncfanatics | there's going to be an FP at kara ? :o |
| 15:15.34 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 15:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 15:15.41 | sag_ich_nicht | that's from old karazhan |
| 15:15.43 | durcyn | no, there was in beta, long since removed though |
| 15:15.47 | sag_ich_nicht | there was a FP planed in beta |
| 15:16.23 | xyu` | wha'ts the cooldown on the ateish staff? :D |
| 15:16.38 | xyu` | sell Kara portals 500g! :D |
| 15:16.50 | durcyn | just wish you could still open them at the AV entrance |
| 15:16.50 | phyber | don't suppose anyone knows what the path and filename of the Mechanostrider noise is so I can replace it with "STFU.wav" ? |
| 15:17.32 | phyber | engine noise + clanking + squeeking = someone at blizzard was high when they thought people would like hearing that. |
| 15:17.47 | ScoTTie | 15 min CD |
| 15:18.02 | Gnarfoz | get a different mount |
| 15:18.05 | ScoTTie | wait .. |
| 15:18.11 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: that's from live :< |
| 15:18.14 | ScoTTie | dont think it does have a cooldown |
| 15:18.17 | phyber | Gnarfoz: yeah, was thinking of getting exalted with Darnassus to get a Tiger |
| 15:18.22 | phyber | gnome + tiger = fearsome. |
| 15:18.30 | durcyn | phyber: pvp one's cheaper |
| 15:18.34 | SunTsu | phyber: Just get a war tiger |
| 15:18.41 | phyber | I don't PvP ;) |
| 15:18.44 | xyu` | i dont mind mechnostrider, i do mind the engineering mounts |
| 15:18.47 | phyber | 147 honour kills on my main in 3 years, woo |
| 15:18.47 | xyu` | they are twice as annoying |
| 15:18.56 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: sadly, it's done by hunter's Eagle Eye thingy, so no way to know where that portal leads. most likely: nowhere :< need working mapviewer |
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| 15:19.12 | SunTsu | phyber: You should for that, because it will take only a fraction of time |
| 15:19.31 | durcyn | yeah, the engineering mount is total garbage noise-wise |
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| 15:20.44 | CIA-12 | 03archarodim * r61770 10Decursive/Dcr_opt.lua: |
| 15:20.44 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
| 15:20.44 | CIA-12 | - Changed auto-hide options to a proper drop-down list. |
| 15:23.10 | sb_ | whats best kil-order for ZA bear run? |
| 15:23.38 | Wogroipl | eagle > bear > dragonhawk > lynx |
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| 15:23.48 | sb_ | hm okay, we already got that |
| 15:24.30 | Ozguli | what's the gear requirement for ZA anyway? |
| 15:24.36 | Wogroipl | there's a nice how-to movie on EJ forums |
| 15:24.41 | Ozguli | I can't believe kara epics are good enough |
| 15:24.51 | Ozguli | or my guild just fails |
| 15:24.51 | durcyn | Ozguli: they're okay, just not for a timed run |
| 15:24.52 | mort | kara epics are good enough |
| 15:24.54 | xyu` | depends on what you want to do |
| 15:24.58 | |Pixel| | they are; if all the raid has them :) |
| 15:24.58 | xyu` | if you're going for bear mount, no |
| 15:25.02 | xyu` | if you just want some epics, then yes |
| 15:25.06 | stavmar | what is the address for the wowace svn, is it svn.wowace.com |
| 15:25.08 | Wogroipl | you can kill bosses in there with kara epics, but you can forget about the bear mount |
| 15:25.24 | kebinusan | svn.wowace.com/wowace/ |
| 15:25.24 | mort | you can do the first 2-3 chests with kara gear |
| 15:25.34 | stavmar | kebinusan: gracias |
| 15:26.13 | Ozguli | and we can't even kill HKM properly, retarded dps can't wait even a second |
| 15:26.17 | xyu` | eagle is execution more than gear, bear is a tank / mana intensive fight, but nothing too bad. |
| 15:26.48 | xyu` | i'd say malacross is the real first boss that might require a bit more gear. |
| 15:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 15:27.06 | kebinusan | I dunno I thought hex lord was pretty straight forward |
| 15:27.07 | durcyn | even that can be gimmicked with shadow resist potions |
| 15:27.15 | Ozguli | last time I was there they failed to kill 2nd boss trash |
| 15:27.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:18] <Gnarfoz> sag_ich_nicht: sadly, it's done by hunter's Eagle Eye thingy, so no way to know where that portal leads. most likely: nowhere :< need working mapviewer <--looks like i'll have to exploit |
| 15:27.39 | Ozguli | we have only warrior tanks but it shouldn't be THAT difficult... |
| 15:27.42 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 15:27.43 | sag_ich_nicht | problem |
| 15:27.48 | sag_ich_nicht | bigwigs commonauras isn't working |
| 15:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | _at all:_ |
| 15:27.53 | sag_ich_nicht | *_at all_ |
| 15:28.00 | mort | malacress can be a bit though on the healers, especially if you have a low hp pool |
| 15:28.29 | xyu` | if you're wiping on eagle trash, it's probably a pacing problem |
| 15:28.31 | Ozguli | how much required? 8k-9k? |
| 15:28.37 | xyu` | if you're wiping on bear trash it may be a tank/healing prob |
| 15:28.45 | xyu` | or you're not getting totems/cc'ing |
| 15:29.02 | Ozguli | pacing problem, explain more |
| 15:29.10 | chexsum_ | get a priest to mc the caster |
| 15:29.15 | stavmar | what is the appropriate target path of Ace3 on the svn? |
| 15:29.19 | chexsum_ | they do nice dps |
| 15:29.23 | durcyn | stavmar: trunk |
| 15:29.29 | xyu` | on your way to eagle, adds will keep respawning on you, over and over until you get to the tempest |
| 15:29.31 | kebinusan | stavmar branches/Ace3/RC1 |
| 15:29.40 | kebinusan | or something like that |
| 15:29.41 | xyu` | If you don't keep "moving forward" you will not get out of combat |
| 15:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | The most important thing to note about this plugin is that it requires people |
| 15:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | in your raid to have it. It will not report Challenging Shout unless both the |
| 15:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | warrior and you have the mod. Other people will not see raid warnings unless a |
| 15:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | raid leader also has the mod. |
| 15:29.47 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 15:29.48 | durcyn | better not be putting branches in externals |
| 15:29.49 | stavmar | that ishat idid but totoise keeps sayin path does not exist? |
| 15:29.51 | sag_ich_nicht | bettr change that |
| 15:30.09 | kebinusan | stavmar: there used to be a beta3 branch but it got removed |
| 15:30.10 | durcyn | stavmar: /wowace/trunk/Ace3 |
| 15:30.32 | kebinusan | oh |
| 15:30.36 | kebinusan | yea its in trunk now it seems |
| 15:30.51 | stavmar | ahh ok |
| 15:31.02 | chexsum_ | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3 |
| 15:31.27 | Ozguli | and the casters die the second they start doing aoe dmg |
| 15:31.29 | CIA-12 | 03merl * r61771 10/branches/mHud/ (3 files in 3 dirs): mHud: ComboPoint fix. Disabled the DogTag load msg. |
| 15:31.45 | kebinusan | Ozguli: thent hey are aoeing too soon or healers arent healing them |
| 15:31.55 | kebinusan | or your tanks suck |
| 15:31.58 | kebinusan | guess thats an option too |
| 15:32.15 | Ozguli | kebinusan I either assist with tank healing or spam useless heals on casters |
| 15:32.33 | durcyn | you are using a paladin tank, yes? |
| 15:32.40 | Ozguli | no, we don't have them |
| 15:32.45 | durcyn | eek |
| 15:32.50 | Ozguli | indeed |
| 15:33.01 | kebinusan | just have a paladin heal the trash clear with RF active |
| 15:33.15 | stavmar | chexsum_: i just need the read only i do not have dev access |
| 15:33.17 | Ozguli | we have ONE paladin healer and his gear sucks |
| 15:33.17 | durcyn | well then, have the tank work on the caster first, and all dps assist |
| 15:33.26 | durcyn | chexsum_: change the 'dev' to 'svn' then |
| 15:33.48 | durcyn | Ozguli: and if your dps can't assist, send them back to molten fucking core |
| 15:33.51 | xyu` | we don't use pally tank. we use druid/warrior. works ok |
| 15:34.45 | Ozguli | don't the birds just get us all killed ... I'll just convience my raid leader to take us to ssc or smth, za is actually hard |
| 15:35.29 | chexsum_ | get a tank on birds and one on adds |
| 15:35.36 | xyu` | and hunters using MD |
| 15:35.40 | xyu` | may help |
| 15:35.43 | durcyn | sounds more like your tank is garbage |
| 15:35.51 | durcyn | tell him to learn to tank multiple mobs without demo shout |
| 15:36.14 | chexsum_ | you dont need to kill things immediately |
| 15:36.19 | durcyn | it was only nerfed what, a year ago |
| 15:36.33 | chexsum_ | aoe needs to let the tank pick up multiple things :P |
| 15:36.46 | durcyn | why are you aoeing on eagle trash? |
| 15:37.14 | xyu` | birdies |
| 15:37.33 | durcyn | plenty of time to kill the three humanoids, then single target the birds |
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| 15:39.30 | Poul|Raider | If i got value, flag = 00000011 first bit stand for aproved, second for locked out. And i got a new bit true/false that tells if a user is locked out. What operator would i use to apply to the flag, so that if its changed it update the flag and if not it just return the same flag. |
| 15:40.03 | Poul|Raider | Flag = flag (something) bit |
| 15:40.09 | Poul|Raider | bit beeing the bool |
| 15:41.14 | nevcairiel | use the bit library |
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| 15:42.08 | Poul|Raider | was just a general exsample, not a lua project, just cant figure out what bitwise operator to use |
| 15:42.33 | Tifi | not sure if i understand correctly, but 00000011 OR 10000000 == 10000011 |
| 15:42.36 | nevcairiel | use OR to set bits, use AND to check for setting |
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| 15:43.33 | nevcairiel | if you're not sure how to use bit-wise operations, i would recommend using individual variables |
| 15:43.41 | nevcairiel | or you might run into tricky errors |
| 15:44.20 | Tifi | or learn how to use them :> |
| 15:44.51 | Tifi | is there a curse channel? my upload is not working and i'd like to bug someone about it |
| 15:45.09 | chexsum_ | are you laggy ? |
| 15:45.10 | nevcairiel | i think there was a curse chan on quakenet, not sure if its still around |
| 15:45.30 | Fin | it's still there |
| 15:45.45 | Tifi | just #curse? |
| 15:46.27 | Fin | well, there is a #curse, I couldn't say whether it was for curse.com or not :) |
| 15:46.40 | Tifi | ok thanks =) |
| 15:47.11 | Fin | I don't think it is, actually |
| 15:47.40 | Fin | ah, there is a #curse-gaming though :0 |
| 15:47.43 | Fin | -0+) |
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| 15:47.54 | Fin | and a #curseweb... |
| 15:48.06 | Fin | and a #cursegaming with 3 people in it :) |
| 15:49.23 | Guardix | "Join in on Curse IRC - #curseweb - Quakenet" from Curse's hp |
| 15:49.37 | Guardix | http://aoc.curse.com/articles/details/1415/ :) |
| 15:50.07 | Fin | 17 people on #curseweb, 15 on #curse-gaming, looks a bit confused :P |
| 15:50.29 | Guardix | #curse-gaming is a FPS clan or something |
| 15:50.44 | Guardix | http://www.curse-gaming.pl/ their hp |
| 15:50.49 | Fin | huh |
| 15:51.09 | Guardix | HL: something :p |
| 15:51.21 | Fin | totally unrelated? I wonder if the curse guild came crom some of them, or something |
| 15:51.48 | Guardix | aha multi FPS clan |
| 15:52.29 | Guardix | CS 1.6, CS:S, Call of duty 4 and enemy territory |
| 15:52.53 | nevcairiel | FPS games are still "in" ? |
| 15:53.11 | Tifi | mh they we |
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| 15:53.22 | ki | http://HORNYSISTERS.partyblog.info/?id=56048d84 |
| 15:53.23 | Tifi | mh they we're never "out" |
| 15:53.30 | Guardix | kek |
| 15:53.36 | nevcairiel | yay spam |
| 15:53.38 | nevcairiel | wtb ops |
| 15:53.38 | Tifi | stupid return key |
| 15:53.45 | Guardix | "HORNYSISTERS" |
| 15:53.55 | nevcairiel | vhaarr you enjoy kicking people, i know it! |
| 15:54.30 | ki | http://HORNYSISTERS.partyblog.info/?id=56048d84 |
| 15:54.31 | ki | http://HORNYSISTERS.partyblog.info/?id=56048d84 |
| 15:54.38 | ki | GOOD SPAM ;) |
| 15:54.40 | Guardix | ... |
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| 15:54.44 | *** kick/#wowace [ki!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 15:58.38 | whizter | is the scorchio addon only working on the english wow client? |
| 16:00.01 | whizter | tried to use it with german client, it doesn't show any bars and doesn't send anything to sct.. (only thing that works is the test bar) |
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| 16:00.43 | whizter | but the option menue is localized :\ |
| 16:01.49 | Nimh | anyone knows the name of cyCycled skin used here? http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7470/71ps4.jpg |
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| 16:02.58 | durcyn | Nimh: looks a bit like VolM |
| 16:03.47 | Ozguli | however it's not |
| 16:04.10 | Nimh | think its not, Im using volm atm |
| 16:04.23 | Stanzilla | could be Caith |
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| 16:07.17 | mort | nice ui, ugly font |
| 16:07.33 | nevcairiel | yeah the font is awful |
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| 16:10.52 | nevcairiel | _something_ is seriously wrong. for some reason my HotCandy decided to have a FuBar plugin, but i never coded it in .. wtf |
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| 16:13.42 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 16:13.58 | Xinhuan | uh really? |
| 16:14.32 | nevcairiel | it appeared in fubar, and errored when i casted a spell |
| 16:14.35 | nevcairiel | reloadui fixed it |
| 16:14.36 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 16:14.43 | nevcairiel | on PTR |
| 16:14.48 | nevcairiel | dunno wtf is up :P |
| 16:16.56 | Nimh | Stanzilla, where I can get this Caith skin? cant find it |
| 16:17.04 | Stanzilla | wowi imo |
| 16:17.39 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8035-CyCircled_Caith.html |
| 16:18.33 | Nimh | thanks |
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| 16:30.48 | Adirelle | hello |
| 16:30.55 | xxzerrroxx | hi any on know if there is a new mod like myquests ? |
| 16:31.19 | xxzerrroxx | as it is quite bugged now |
| 16:31.38 | Adirelle | about the libbabble change, can I reference the lib.xml from another xml ? e.g. have MyAddon/embeds.xml references libs/LibBabble-Spell-3.0/lib.xml ? |
| 16:31.50 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: sure |
| 16:31.58 | nevcairiel | you just need to use Include instead of Script |
| 16:32.16 | nevcairiel | <Include file="libs\LibBabble-Spell-3.0\lib.xml" /> |
| 16:32.19 | nevcairiel | for example |
| 16:32.32 | Adirelle | ok, thx |
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| 16:35.57 | Adirelle | is there a list of libstub'ed libraries that have the same API as the ace2'ed ones ? (like LibGratuity-3.0 being the same as Gratuity-2.0) |
| 16:42.51 | Xinhuan | heh i wasn't even aware gratuity has been libstubbed |
| 16:43.53 | CIA-12 | 03adirelle * r61772 10SimpleSelfRebuff/embeds.xml: SimpleSelfRebuff: fix loading of LibBabble-Spell-3.0. |
| 16:44.09 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: it is, quite straitforward, that is, it also seems it overrides Gratuity-2.0 |
| 16:44.32 | nevcairiel | yeah its one of those "compat layer" libs |
| 16:44.42 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11292.msg181149#msg181149 |
| 16:44.55 | nevcairiel | i wrote a quick guide for upgrading babble, hooray \o/ |
| 16:45.00 | Xinhuan | well the lib seems like a pretty stupid idea to me, whats the point of having a library for sharing a single tooltip |
| 16:45.20 | Fin | for any British here: Why did the Gorillas get lost? |
| 16:45.40 | Xinhuan | sure, you save about 3 or 4 addons from making their own scanning tooltips, that's like barely a few bytes for a tooltip object frame |
| 16:45.51 | Fin | A: because Jungle is Massive |
| 16:45.52 | Xinhuan | versus the overhead of adding in all the library functions and lib calls |
| 16:46.03 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: the point of Gratuity is more the content parsing than the singleton |
| 16:46.23 | Xinhuan | except it doesn't really parse anything, its more Deformat |
| 16:46.30 | Xinhuan | that's doing the work |
| 16:46.41 | Xinhuan | and you could just have used deformat directly |
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| 16:47.02 | Adirelle | actually deformat is included in gratuity |
| 16:47.12 | Xinhuan | exactly my point |
| 16:47.26 | Xinhuan | if i used deformat directly, or used my own deformatting string and tooltip |
| 16:47.30 | Xinhuan | i save a ton more memory |
| 16:47.39 | Adirelle | wait, in fact, it was embedded, it is not either |
| 16:47.42 | Xinhuan | which is the approach statlogiclib went |
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| 16:47.49 | Adirelle | s/either/anymore/ |
| 16:48.37 | Xinhuan | to me, gratuity is just one of those libraries that "got libified, just because it can" |
| 16:49.06 | Xinhuan | seen the Babble-Gas-2.2 library? it has exactly FOUR translations in it. Yes, 4 |
| 16:49.17 | nevcairiel | i wonder which of my addons uses gratuity |
| 16:49.17 | Xinhuan | they made a lib for 4 translations |
| 16:49.30 | Xinhuan | itembonuslib uses gratuity, nev |
| 16:49.35 | Xinhuan | and many addons use itembonuslib |
| 16:49.49 | sag_ich_nicht | GAH |
| 16:49.51 | sag_ich_nicht | outland down |
| 16:49.51 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 16:50.10 | nevcairiel | duratek does |
| 16:50.11 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 16:50.18 | nevcairiel | and special-events-mount |
| 16:50.25 | nevcairiel | all those SpecialEvents library are junk anyway |
| 16:50.28 | Xinhuan | so a durability addon uses gratuity |
| 16:50.36 | Xinhuan | to scan tooltips to extract the durability values |
| 16:50.42 | Xinhuan | which uses deformat, etc |
| 16:50.53 | Adirelle | weird, I can't find where I use Gratuity in SSR, oO |
| 16:51.06 | Xinhuan | when the only thing you needed was your own tooltip + 1 string for deformatting that one durability line |
| 16:51.06 | Fin | Xinhuan: you might say it was quite a gratiuitous libification |
| 16:52.13 | nevcairiel | someone should write a fubar replacement so i can write a duratek replacement :P |
| 16:52.22 | thul | hmm |
| 16:52.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart neenee |
| 16:52.29 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses neenee's head to break the homerun record |
| 16:52.30 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 16:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | apologizes, neenee |
| 16:52.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 16:52.37 | purl | whacks nevcairiel with the cluebat |
| 16:52.43 | Estil | lol @ guild name <Jesus MTd our sins> |
| 16:53.03 | Xinhuan | fubar's pretty hard to replace, market penetration is huge with large addon support |
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| 16:53.24 | Fin | it would have to be compatible with existing FuBar addons |
| 16:53.27 | thul | http://www.barstoolsports.com/article/new_jersey_freakshows/1958/ |
| 16:53.33 | Xinhuan | then again, Titan Panel was once considered indeispensable |
| 16:53.37 | Xinhuan | indispensible |
| 16:53.49 | nevcairiel | someone wanted to write some library that manages plugin support, aka it plugs into fubar |
| 16:53.49 | Fin | yeah, but it also went through regular periods of much bugginess |
| 16:53.50 | nevcairiel | into titan |
| 16:53.54 | nevcairiel | into whatever else there is |
| 16:54.01 | nevcairiel | i just use that lib, and be happy |
| 16:54.06 | nevcairiel | wonder what came out of that |
| 16:54.25 | Fin | it gave FuBar a chance to become popular - I never would've tried it if Titan hadn't been screwed at the time and was looking for a replacement |
| 16:54.56 | Cryect | thats how most addons fail |
| 16:55.10 | Fin | there you go nevcariel, just upload some more bugs into FuBar |
| 16:55.16 | SunTsu | Fin: ACK ;) Same way that I came to FuBar - and ace eventually |
| 16:55.21 | Cryect | I don't see many people using though Fubar itself anymore when people post UI pics |
| 16:55.26 | Fin | 1. sabotage FuBar |
| 16:55.29 | robotusch | ach du lieber, thul :S |
| 16:55.29 | Fin | 2. wait |
| 16:55.30 | Cryect | its normally just the fubar minimap icons moved often |
| 16:55.32 | Xinhuan | they could have it on auto hide |
| 16:55.33 | nevcairiel | Fin: the latest fubar already annoys alot of people |
| 16:55.33 | Snago | Might want to write an Ace3 bar mod first though |
| 16:55.33 | Fin | 3. Profit!!!!!1! |
| 16:55.47 | nevcairiel | with the big config that pops up when you miss click etc :P |
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| 16:56.09 | thul | robotusch:P |
| 16:56.13 | CIA-12 | 03adirelle * r61773 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (. SimpleSelfRebuff.toc embeds.xml): SimpleSelfRebuff: dropped GratuityLib requirement, as it is not used anymore. |
| 16:56.28 | Snago | Aye, I'd swap in a split second if there was any good alternative |
| 16:56.37 | nevcairiel | use FuBar2 on svn |
| 16:56.40 | Fin | oh, that, yeah that's quite annoying, but I figured that was just Rock / FuBar temporal displacement, it's not actually *broken* as such... but fair point |
| 16:56.40 | Cryect | haha |
| 16:56.42 | nevcairiel | and on files page |
| 16:56.49 | Fin | what is SlideBar btw? |
| 16:57.03 | Xinhuan | has Elkano + tekkub done anything with that new thing |
| 16:57.08 | Xinhuan | system they were discussing |
| 16:57.16 | nevcairiel | oh yeah Elkano was involved too |
| 16:57.21 | durcyn | legoblock? it's still around |
| 16:57.25 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 16:57.25 | SunTsu | .o0( I like fubar the way it is ) |
| 16:57.33 | nevcairiel | that information lib i was talking about |
| 16:57.35 | Fin | all I ever saw was some addons that converted FuBar plugins to SlideBars, but no actual SlideBar addon itself, heh |
| 16:57.40 | durcyn | you guys really have to get over this "i hate everything ckknight writes" crap though |
| 16:57.52 | Xinhuan | fubar isn't all that customizable, ck has declined to add sharedmedia support to it |
| 16:57.52 | Fin | I just hate ckknight, he smells of poo |
| 16:58.22 | nevcairiel | Fin: SlideBar is a library by itself, i think its that thing Auctioneer and Gatherer use to add their config to this floating buttons at the side of the screen |
| 16:58.40 | Fin | perhaps I'm being too subtle in my trolling :( |
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| 16:59.02 | Fin | nevcairiel: ah! that's neat that (well, approaching neat - it's a bit irritating to find it again) |
| 16:59.08 | Snago | durcyn: That's not it at all. I'm a happy user of both PitBull and Parrot |
| 16:59.27 | nevcairiel | its not the author really |
| 16:59.27 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r61774 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/ (GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc): |
| 16:59.27 | CIA-12 | GridStatusMissingBuffs: |
| 16:59.27 | CIA-12 | - use LibBabble-Spell-3.0 because Grid uses it |
| 16:59.27 | CIA-12 | - removed OptionalDeps and X-Embeds from toc because Grid has all we need |
| 16:59.27 | CIA-12 | - removed usage in 'Buff Icon' and from all locales because we don't need it |
| 16:59.28 | CIA-12 | - added deDE |
| 16:59.43 | nevcairiel | its this ZOMGMODULAR for everything idea that i dont like personally |
| 16:59.56 | nevcairiel | plus, i dont support the all-in-one-framework idea of Rock |
| 17:00.54 | chexsum_ | why not |
| 17:01.02 | chexsum_ | youll end up using it all anyway |
| 17:01.06 | Ozguli | but people use Cosmos |
| 17:01.10 | nevcairiel | how so chexsum_? |
| 17:01.13 | Ozguli | it's like wearing plate IRL |
| 17:01.30 | chexsum_ | its all useful libs |
| 17:01.31 | nevcairiel | i can choose what i use :) |
| 17:02.01 | JoshBork1 | chexsum_: i would disagree with the statement that you'd be using all of the different pieces of a framework |
| 17:02.04 | Adirelle | about the new 2.4 interface for addons, who didn't think "could we plugin the config panels into that" ? |
| 17:02.14 | JoshBork1 | chexsum_: while i'll agree that people in here would |
| 17:02.23 | JoshBork1 | chexsum_: i don't believe that the majority of the wow playerbase would |
| 17:02.28 | Elkano | nevcairiel, it doesn't plug into fubar, titan and such but these can use the lib to look for addons looking for a display |
| 17:02.40 | JoshBork1 | there is no doubt in my mind that more tahn 50% of the playerbase uses less than 10 mods |
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| 17:03.09 | Fin | hmm |
| 17:03.15 | Fin | go on then, list them |
| 17:03.20 | nevcairiel | chexsum_: maybe true, i didnt check whats actually in all of those libs, but personally, i can write a very small addon, and want to be able to like only use the DB Library because its so handy, and dont want all the other stuff .. its all aboid choices .. just my personal believes =) |
| 17:03.24 | chexsum_ | the majority of people probably dont use the majority of windows apis but theyre there |
| 17:03.25 | Elkano | but it's fun to use SpyGnome in BattleGrounds seeing other people using your mods ^^ |
| 17:03.25 | Adirelle | whatever, gonna play a bit |
| 17:03.27 | Fin | are you including those mods' libraries also? |
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| 17:03.29 | Adirelle | later |
| 17:04.03 | Xinhuan | still JoshBork1, that implies the other 50% uses > 10 mods, which is still a good 5 million people |
| 17:04.04 | nevcairiel | Elkano: so essentially FuBar can choose to support that lib and show it, right? |
| 17:04.06 | JoshBork1 | fin: are you asking what the 10 mods are? it depends on player and what he wants, it's not a list of 10 specific mods |
| 17:04.10 | nevcairiel | isnt that the same in the end? :P |
| 17:04.14 | Fin | JoshBork1: yes |
| 17:04.17 | SunTsu | Elkano: As long as you don't put some BG-specials with "You lose, I win"-functionality into them ;)) |
| 17:04.24 | JoshBork1 | Xinhuan: do you honestly think that 50% use more than 10 mods? |
| 17:04.32 | Fin | oh, you mean, the median number of mods used by WoW players is 10? |
| 17:04.35 | Fin | is it median? |
| 17:04.36 | Fin | or mean |
| 17:04.37 | Xinhuan | on my server, i would say the answer is yes |
| 17:04.38 | Fin | or mode |
| 17:04.48 | Fin | one of those, the most common anyway |
| 17:04.50 | Elkano | nevcairiel, theoreticaly, yes |
| 17:05.02 | Xinhuan | seeing as we have 50-60 raiding guilds, 14 of which killed illidan, and 25 or so are in black temple |
| 17:05.04 | JoshBork1 | Xinhuan: are you thinking only of the people who are 70 running instances all the time? or are you also considering the people who have just started playing |
| 17:05.18 | Xinhuan | there are very few ppl who have started playing on my server |
| 17:05.26 | Xinhuan | its a "mature server" so to speak |
| 17:05.34 | JoshBork1 | then i'd agree with you |
| 17:05.35 | chexsum_ | what does rock have that you wouldnt use for bigwigs ? |
| 17:05.40 | JoshBork1 | but what about other servers? |
| 17:05.44 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 17:05.49 | JoshBork1 | is your server the norm or the exception? |
| 17:05.51 | Xinhuan | but i inferred from your statement |
| 17:06.00 | Xinhuan | "there is no doubt in my mind that more tahn 50% of the playerbase uses less than 10 mods" |
| 17:06.00 | chexsum_ | most raiders use that sort of addon |
| 17:06.14 | Xinhuan | i didn't come up with any stats myself ;p |
| 17:06.20 | JoshBork1 | ;-) |
| 17:06.23 | nevcairiel | chexsum_: bigwigs is a pretty big addon, that might use alot of funtions, but not all addons are "big" like that |
| 17:06.38 | Fisker- | btw |
| 17:06.43 | Fisker- | ssc doesn't make sense |
| 17:06.45 | Fth|Daemona | ~seen Antiarc |
| 17:06.48 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 80 messages. Is idling for 8h 6m 9s, last said: 'I'm voiced'. |
| 17:07.20 | JoshBork1 | my main argument is that there are 10 million people who play wow, how many of them are going to be technically adept enough to install and use mods? consider the age ranges of who plays, consider the seriousness of who plays |
| 17:07.20 | Fisker- | you killed hydross so why are there tainted elementals? :O |
| 17:08.05 | chexsum_ | i installed cartographer and now i can track most of my guildies |
| 17:08.12 | chexsum_ | thats how many use rock |
| 17:08.21 | Xinhuan | well JoshBork1, seeing as WoW requires credit card payment for the most part |
| 17:08.23 | Fin | JoshBork1: but, the learning curve ends very quickly - if you can get one addon installed, you can get most of them installed pretty easily. I'd say the reason most people don't use more addons is more to do with the fact that they just don't know they exist. |
| 17:08.32 | Xinhuan | i would say that MOST of the population is old enough |
| 17:08.36 | Xinhuan | to know how to install mods |
| 17:09.06 | JoshBork1 | Xinhuan: but daddy, daddy, i really want to play this game! it's fun and we can play together! |
| 17:09.13 | chexsum_ | its not hard to unzip something into a directory :P |
| 17:09.13 | Xinhuan | yeah those are just a minority |
| 17:09.18 | Fin | finding out about all the different things addons can do requires a fair amount of browsing through the addon sites, which most people would not exactly find very interesting, compared to say, playing the game itself... |
| 17:09.44 | JoshBork1 | i don't care about the reasons people don't have a lot of mods, just the fact that they do |
| 17:09.49 | Xinhuan | not many parents would pay for their children a monthly subscription game |
| 17:09.52 | Xinhuan | when there's free ones |
| 17:10.08 | JoshBork1 | or don't i guess i should say |
| 17:10.12 | Chompers | perhaps to install, but not to keep them updated |
| 17:10.14 | Fin | more like, "Daddy, daddy, there's a new version of Ace3 out! Get off the computer!" |
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| 17:11.09 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r61775 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-12 | - Added a run-once action that migrate old wishlist entry format to newer one when players logged in. So we can scratch "Only works on items added after this" thing in last change. |
| 17:12.42 | Chompers | people using 50xxx of threat-1.0 :/ |
| 17:13.11 | Chompers | reminding them every raid to update doesn't work |
| 17:13.33 | SunTsu | Fin: Most people get addons the way they get bazillion programs on their computers "Have you seen that cool stuff?" |
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| 17:14.08 | Nimh | hmm, is it possible to change font size in Recount? Cant figure out how ;s |
| 17:14.39 | Cryect | It changes if you change bar size doesn't it but then again I don't think I ever added an option to change bar size did I? |
| 17:14.41 | Fin | SunTsu: right - which means they don't know about a whole cockload of what else is available, which is why they don't have more installed - in my humble opinion :) |
| 17:14.55 | Cryect | there is a secret variable for that I believe though |
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| 17:15.38 | SunTsu | Fin: Right, but it sums up quickly |
| 17:15.50 | Nimh | riight can change only bar size |
| 17:15.54 | Cryect | Oh I did |
| 17:16.01 | Cryect | yeah you can't change the other font sizes though |
| 17:16.02 | Killmore | Badges of Justice have been added to all raid bosses who did not previously have them! <-- even Pre-bc instance ? :P |
| 17:16.32 | shieldb | Killmore: TO ONYXIA~ |
| 17:16.39 | Cryect | More like to Naxx |
| 17:16.50 | shieldb | can't three man naxx ;) |
| 17:17.29 | Fin | maybe YOU can't, but I'M INFINCIBLE! |
| 17:17.36 | Cryect | you can already 2 man for badges why would you goto Onyxia :-p |
| 17:17.42 | Cryect | I guess its another badge though |
| 17:17.45 | shieldb | That really seemed more of a "Oh, you guys in T6 can probably stop running Karazhan now if you want" change to me |
| 17:18.05 | Cryect | I don't think people in T6 are running Kara on their mains much |
| 17:18.18 | Cryect | the badges in kara are more nice for your alts |
| 17:18.20 | shieldb | Not that there's stuff to really get from the badges anyways if you're in T6 |
| 17:18.23 | Cryect | yes |
| 17:19.05 | shieldb | Yeah when we end up running karazhan it's like two or three mains who want the enchants from karazhan and then all alts |
| 17:20.33 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r61776 10GridStatusThreat/GridStatusThreat.toc: GridStatusThreat: added OptionalDeps and X-Embeds to toc |
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| 17:22.45 | Firelemming | Evening all |
| 17:22.58 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Well well, illumination is only accounted for if you have it talented |
| 17:23.02 | Gagorian | So, it's not that |
| 17:23.38 | Gagorian | Also, if number of casts is over 1000, then it rounds to infinite |
| 17:24.22 | Gagorian | Pretty hefty rounding! |
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| 17:25.45 | Xinhuan | [2/18 01:17:50] <Cryect> I don't think people in T6 are running Kara on their mains much |
| 17:25.48 | Xinhuan | incorrect lol |
| 17:25.52 | Xinhuan | many mains go just to get badges |
| 17:25.56 | Xinhuan | for their offspec loot |
| 17:26.09 | Killmore | is there a way to know if you still have old lib that is not in use because of new version ? |
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| 17:26.12 | Xinhuan | i.e classes with multiple roles |
| 17:26.28 | Fin | Killmore: delete lib and update via WAU |
| 17:26.34 | Xinhuan | Killmore: disable/delete the lib. if something errors you know u needed it |
| 17:26.46 | Xinhuan | updating via WAU isn't accurate anymore due to compat layers |
| 17:26.54 | Fin | or use my handy dandy script that's hidden in the forums somewhere |
| 17:27.04 | Fin | fair enough |
| 17:27.21 | Xinhuan | like, if you have LibParser-4.0 |
| 17:27.25 | Xinhuan | you don't need 3.0 or 1.1 |
| 17:27.29 | Xinhuan | and yet WAU will download those |
| 17:27.30 | Killmore | I have 39 directory starting by Lib |
| 17:28.46 | Xinhuan | oh but it still makes no sense to load libbabble 2.2 and 3.0 |
| 17:28.54 | Xinhuan | both are 450kb behemoths |
| 17:28.54 | Fin | I don't give a shit anymore, it's just too hard to stay free of shit you don't want without doing it all manually, and I can't be arsed |
| 17:29.00 | Recluse | Xinhuan: what if you have an addon that includes 4.0 and another that is outdated which still includes the 3.0? That was my issue is that there are some addons that I refuse to give up, but their dependencies are archaic :p |
| 17:29.07 | Chompers | is it possible to share pitbull layouts/profiles with other players? |
| 17:29.08 | Fin | it's still below my irritation threshold |
| 17:29.12 | Chompers | oh, found it. sorry |
| 17:29.14 | Xinhuan | then it depends on loading order Recluse |
| 17:29.37 | Xinhuan | if libparser4.0 loaded first, then the addon that requested for 3.0 will get the 4.0 copy returned |
| 17:29.42 | Xinhuan | and the 4.0 copy pretends it is 3.0 |
| 17:29.48 | Fin | http://ia341018.us.archive.org/3/items/splatf/savpasf.mp3 |
| 17:29.51 | Fin | oops |
| 17:29.51 | Fin | -that |
| 17:29.54 | Xinhuan | then 3.0 doesn't load |
| 17:30.00 | Fin | http://downloads.pitchforkmedia.com/DJ%20Donna%20Summer%20-%20Sweet%20Assed%20Child%20O%20Mine.mp3 though! |
| 17:30.02 | Xinhuan | if 3.0 loaded first, then 4.0 loads after that |
| 17:30.09 | Xinhuan | 4.0 will delete 3.0, and register itself as both 3.0 and 4.0 |
| 17:30.17 | Xinhuan | so you end up with just 4.0 |
| 17:30.23 | Xinhuan | and pretends to be 3.0 |
| 17:30.33 | Recluse | ah, so the lib itself is backwards compatible, even if the old addon doesn't know what 4.0 is, 4.0 is smart enough to say "oh, i'm 3.0 too, but better"? |
| 17:30.40 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 17:30.47 | Recluse | very interesting |
| 17:30.59 | Xinhuan | 4.0 basically would just register itself as both 4.0 and 3.0 |
| 17:31.21 | Xinhuan | this isn't an issue as long as the API is identical |
| 17:31.25 | Xinhuan | or has compat function layers |
| 17:31.40 | Xinhuan | now libbabble doesn't have compat layers |
| 17:31.42 | Recluse | would this work with ace itself? ie: install Ace3 and all Ace2 mods work properly? |
| 17:31.47 | Xinhuan | so if an addon needs 2.2 and another needs 3.0 |
| 17:31.53 | Xinhuan | you end up with double the translations in memory |
| 17:32.02 | Xinhuan | ace3 doesn't do any compat |
| 17:32.15 | Recluse | k |
| 17:32.17 | Xinhuan | to do so would make ace3 larger than ace2 |
| 17:32.44 | Fin | assuming there were no ways to impersonate ace2 while using less code |
| 17:33.09 | Xinhuan | now the issue here depends on whether ModA that uses 3.0 or modB that uses 4.0 loads first |
| 17:33.20 | Xinhuan | if modA loads first then u can't delete 3.0 |
| 17:33.25 | Xinhuan | if modB loads first, you can delete 3.0 |
| 17:33.46 | Fin | a well designed loader could sort all this out, I bet |
| 17:33.57 | Xinhuan | and loading order is largely dependant on your operating system/disk |
| 17:33.57 | Chompers | trying to share a layout in pitbull, but the share options is greyed out |
| 17:34.04 | Chompers | do i have to do anything special? |
| 17:34.13 | Xinhuan | NTFS disks return folders in alphabetical order, hence addons load in alphabetical order, modified by dependencies |
| 17:34.26 | Fin | maybe profile the set of addons you have installed, then use a preconfigured load order next time round |
| 17:34.29 | Xinhuan | FAT32 disks return folders in natural disk order, so they usually load by last installed date |
| 17:34.41 | Xinhuan | or soemtimes alphabetical order as well, if you defragged it |
| 17:34.53 | Xinhuan | it depends on how fragmented the disk is, for fat32 |
| 17:35.00 | Xinhuan | there's other file systems like unix, etc |
| 17:35.06 | Xinhuan | that return folders in a different order |
| 17:35.12 | Xinhuan | and wow loads them in that order |
| 17:36.11 | Xinhuan | ntfs returns in alphabetical order only because they use a sorted binary tree to represent every folder ;p |
| 17:36.19 | Xinhuan | so returning a list of folders is merely traversing that tree |
| 17:36.44 | JoshBork1 | blah blah blah |
| 17:36.46 | JoshBork1 | no one cares |
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| 17:37.06 | Fin | you mean, you don't care |
| 17:37.21 | Xinhuan | well at the end of it, it was to answer Recluse ;p |
| 17:37.35 | Recluse | lol |
| 17:37.36 | Fin | at the begining also, and somewhere around the middle |
| 17:38.41 | Olison | is there a site where i can view commit-messages for the wowace svn? |
| 17:39.12 | Xinhuan | fish.wowace.com |
| 17:39.35 | Fin | groups.google.com |
| 17:40.01 | Recluse | and the cia.vc one too |
| 17:40.08 | Fin | www.wowace.com/trac ? |
| 17:40.40 | Fin | http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fwowace%2Ffeed%2Frss_v2_0_msgs.xml%3Fnum%3D150 |
| 17:40.43 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61777 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Hide the edit frame if we delete the same note we are editing. |
| 17:41.03 | Olison | oic, thanks all :) |
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| 17:42.18 | alcaras | Hmm, how do I hide the 'World Map' icon w/ CHinchilla? |
| 17:42.28 | alcaras | oh nvm |
| 17:42.32 | alcaras | i was unchecking under 'Move' |
| 17:42.39 | alcaras | but apparently there's a Show/Hide I was missing |
| 17:42.40 | alcaras | Doh. |
| 17:43.03 | alcaras | Unchecking "Attach to minimap" for some reason made me think it would go away |
| 17:43.05 | SunTsu | alcaras: Sometimes it helps to talk about it ;) |
| 17:43.12 | alcaras | yeah, sorry :p |
| 17:43.33 | CIA-12 | 03cryect * r61778 10/branches/Recount2/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:43.33 | CIA-12 | Recount2 - Initial Commit |
| 17:43.33 | CIA-12 | -At the moment just records data in a new style and allows some basic filtering of the data |
| 17:43.33 | CIA-12 | -Not actually usable (unless you just like data tables) |
| 17:44.24 | Elkano | wtf? 66k honor on one day? http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/205/honorrecordgn8.jpg |
| 17:44.50 | chexsum_ | ive done more than that |
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| 17:45.12 | chexsum_ | ab premade 350+ resilience |
| 17:47.14 | Recluse | i can only get about 5k honor if i pvp from sun up to sun down non-stop |
| 17:47.26 | Estil | :( |
| 17:47.37 | Estil | I managed 11k honor playing from 8 AM to 11 PM |
| 17:47.41 | Estil | with breaks for eating here and there |
| 17:48.12 | Estil | then again |
| 17:48.18 | Estil | I can imagine how painful it is to pug on Alliance side |
| 17:48.29 | Ozguli | I've managed 12k by running in AV from 1pm to 10pm |
| 17:48.39 | Ozguli | Alliance side :S |
| 17:48.44 | Estil | :( |
| 17:48.51 | chexsum_ | my server has 2M queues most of the time |
| 17:48.54 | Ozguli | but my battlegroup isn't half that bad |
| 17:48.55 | chexsum_ | 2min |
| 17:48.56 | ckknight | Fin: I do not smell of poo *sniffs self* |
| 17:49.02 | chexsum_ | bg9 horde ftw |
| 17:49.12 | dylanm | bg9lolololol |
| 17:49.19 | Estil | bg9 horde is fail |
| 17:49.21 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r61779 10DaPortrait/ (Constants.lua modules/Animations.lua modules/Camera.lua): |
| 17:49.21 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 17:49.21 | CIA-12 | - Removed Debug Code |
| 17:49.23 | Recluse | my issue lately is that bg's won't pop lol. ab takes ~20m, wsg takes ~45m, av takes ~3-4h just to get in |
| 17:49.24 | Estil | in regards to AV queue time |
| 17:49.30 | Estil | wow recluse |
| 17:49.32 | Estil | that's horrible |
| 17:49.32 | Estil | :( |
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| 17:50.09 | Recluse | it's one of those where you queue and go do a couple instances lol |
| 17:50.19 | chexsum_ | we rolled some of the top bg9 pvp guilds and it was a trade pug |
| 17:50.32 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/chat/ |
| 17:50.46 | Ozguli | check bgchat or something... |
| 17:51.05 | Ozguli | I can't remember the name of every single picture |
| 17:51.11 | chexsum_ | they only get my trade pug 350res+ premades when i forget to grab healers |
| 17:51.47 | Xinhuan | Elkano, my best was 315k cp in a single day :P (back in patch 1.7 or so) |
| 17:51.53 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it, i'm tanking one of the adds at al'ar, add explodes.... and i land in the AoE |
| 17:51.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 17:52.26 | Estil | getting any decent honor as new 70 is tough on Blackrock at least |
| 17:52.31 | Ozguli | was the add killed by then? You did your job |
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| 17:52.39 | Estil | since even the trade pugs go "200+ res or no invite" |
| 17:52.55 | Estil | and many of those "no res premades" fail utterly |
| 17:53.19 | chexsum_ | im 350+ or kick |
| 17:53.23 | Ozguli | "nnn res and/or 2x t5 or better" |
| 17:53.24 | chexsum_ | it works |
| 17:53.44 | Estil | ugh old honor system |
| 17:53.46 | Estil | gives me nightmare |
| 17:53.54 | Estil | I had to pvp all day and even that only got me rank 11 |
| 17:53.55 | Estil | :( |
| 17:54.07 | Cryect | Because you have to pvP all day and night ;) |
| 17:54.16 | Cryect | you just weren't hardcore enough |
| 17:54.19 | Estil | yea |
| 17:54.30 | Estil | at least I stil got up to rank 11 |
| 17:54.33 | Cryect | the old system was retarded |
| 17:54.40 | Estil | and get to keep cool Commander title |
| 17:54.42 | Fin | wahey! |
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| 17:54.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 17:54.46 | chexsum_ | i got r12 in 3 months |
| 17:54.49 | Fin | ckknight: bee poo! |
| 17:55.02 | chexsum_ | we only had about 10 r14s on my server |
| 17:55.08 | ckknight_ | bee poo? |
| 17:55.21 | Cryect | Fin likes bee poo |
| 17:55.24 | Fin | honey |
| 17:55.31 | ckknight | oh, hehe |
| 17:55.31 | Fin | bee poo makes me sticky |
| 17:55.33 | chexsum_ | missed r13 by 2% :( |
| 17:55.36 | Estil | :( |
| 17:55.48 | Estil | most servers run "fixed" routines anyway |
| 17:55.50 | Estil | for those at high ranks |
| 17:55.54 | Cryect | yep |
| 17:56.06 | Estil | so they rotate who gets new rank up |
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| 17:56.08 | Estil | every week |
| 17:56.20 | chexsum_ | i pugged my way up there |
| 17:56.32 | Estil | you are crazy |
| 17:56.35 | chexsum_ | got heaps of botters banned on the way lol |
| 17:56.41 | Estil | lol |
| 17:57.04 | chexsum_ | if anyone botted at all and challenged my rank id ticket it until they got a ban |
| 17:57.15 | chexsum_ | even a guildy |
| 17:57.24 | Estil | haha |
| 17:57.28 | Cryect | I always loved it when some new person out of nowhere takes spot 1 with like a million honor who didn't pay attention to the "agreed" upon things |
| 17:57.34 | chexsum_ | he got r13 the week i was supposed to get it |
| 17:58.28 | Estil | :( |
| 17:58.54 | Xinhuan | <-- r14 ;p |
| 17:59.26 | nevcairiel | you know, ranks got removed from the game |
| 17:59.34 | nevcairiel | <-- gladiator .. so? |
| 17:59.34 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:59.37 | chexsum_ | i think i was pulling in about 500k/week |
| 18:00.17 | Elkano | Xinhuan, well that was back in the old pvp days ^^ |
| 18:00.37 | Xinhuan | i'm both, does that count? ^^ |
| 18:00.47 | chexsum_ | new pvp is boring |
| 18:01.04 | chexsum_ | i only do bgs |
| 18:01.11 | CIA-12 | 03firelemming * r61780 10RuinBossTactics/ (RuinBossTactics.lua RuinBossTactics.toc): |
| 18:01.11 | CIA-12 | RuinBossTactics: |
| 18:01.11 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.17 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: you r a freak, thats the only that count. lol :P |
| 18:06.43 | Xinhuan | heh, i just figured out what the OnEnter and OnLeave arg1 for motion is |
| 18:07.08 | Xinhuan | its a boolean flag indicating whether the OnEnter or OnLeave triggered due to a mouse movement or not |
| 18:08.25 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:08.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:08.28 | ckknight | interesting |
| 18:09.36 | Xinhuan | if its true, a mouse movement triggered it, if its false, something programatically trigerred it, usually via a frame being shown or hidden or moved under the mouse |
| 18:11.04 | nevcairiel | i could've told you that |
| 18:11.11 | Xinhuan | i wonder if any blizzard function uses that |
| 18:11.21 | nevcairiel | i dont really see the use tho |
| 18:11.47 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61781 10XRS/ (XRS.lua XRS.toc XRS_BuffClass.lua embeds.xml libs/): XRS: Babble-Spell-2.2 -> 3.0 |
| 18:11.49 | Xinhuan | it could be useful for updating a tooltip |
| 18:12.16 | Xinhuan | like minimap tooltips that stack items |
| 18:12.20 | Xinhuan | into a single tooltip |
| 18:18.30 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r61782 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: reduce size of the lib header in the enUS file so the spells start on the same line as in the other language files for easier comparison and translation |
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| 18:21.06 | sb_ | bah |
| 18:21.10 | sb_ | no idea how to do timed za... |
| 18:21.16 | sb_ | need another 5 minutes *sigh* |
| 18:21.26 | Kivin | !c us cenarion circle soragis |
| 18:21.27 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Soragis, Level 70 Orc Hunter (0/61/0). 7228 HP; 4738 Mana; 88 mana regen; 8 mp5; 3808 Armour; 963 AP; 162.100 Melee DPS; 10.72% melee crit; 45 melee hit; 1124 RAP; 213.90 Ranged DPS; 15.88% ranged crit; 45 ranged hit; 10.39% dodge;[[ TBR: 1050 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24ypwr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wbg4q ][ Updated: Sun Feb 17 13:24:10 2008 EST ]] |
| 18:21.31 | Kivin | ... ouch |
| 18:22.56 | Estil | what the... 0/61/0 |
| 18:23.06 | CIA-12 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61783 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: bug fix |
| 18:23.08 | Kivin | He wanted a spot in my heroic UB |
| 18:23.10 | Kivin | noooo thanks |
| 18:23.13 | Estil | lawl |
| 18:23.20 | Estil | I too should do it |
| 18:23.21 | Kivin | 1100 AP 15% crit |
| 18:23.28 | Estil | I once ran BM with a warlock that had 0/0/61 |
| 18:23.33 | Estil | and had bunch of +healing gears |
| 18:23.37 | Kivin | wow, fun |
| 18:23.45 | Kivin | granted, i'm an ele shaman wearing healing gear |
| 18:23.54 | Estil | and ninja'ed the healer staff that drops |
| 18:23.57 | Estil | from the healer |
| 18:24.00 | Kivin | o_O |
| 18:24.03 | Estil | saying "it has more dmg than my weapon" |
| 18:24.03 | Kivin | oooooo |
| 18:24.12 | Kivin | ignore list <3 |
| 18:24.20 | Estil | and he never used any curses or dots other than immolate |
| 18:24.22 | Estil | throughout whole run |
| 18:24.35 | Estil | and soulstoned a feral druid instead of our priest healer |
| 18:24.52 | Kivin | armory tells volumes if you bother to look at it first :P |
| 18:24.55 | Estil | yea |
| 18:24.56 | Estil | I should. |
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| 18:25.52 | Kivin | !c us cenarion circle merovech |
| 18:25.54 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Merovech, Level 70 Orc Hunter (5/20/36). 9337 HP; 7843 Mana; 91 mana regen; 4 mp5; 6975 Armour; 2082 AP; 245.300 Melee DPS; 26.48% melee crit; 108 melee hit; 2170 RAP; 315.30 Ranged DPS; 32.75% ranged crit; 108 ranged hit; 28.99% dodge;[[ TBR: 1168 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvgyse ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37uk2t ][ Updated: Sun Feb 17 13:35:08 2008 EST ]] |
| 18:26.28 | Estil | much better, no? |
| 18:26.43 | Kivin | he'll do |
| 18:30.28 | Firelemming | thats a fun bot, does that also work for EU? |
| 18:30.39 | Kivin | yes, just change the fields |
| 18:30.49 | Kivin | !c eu vashj bob |
| 18:30.50 | ThraeBot | Kivin: bob is not the character you are looking for! |
| 18:30.57 | Firelemming | lets see if i can |
| 18:31.06 | Firelemming | !c eu dreanor firelemming |
| 18:31.07 | ThraeBot | Firelemming: firelemming is not the character you are looking for! |
| 18:31.11 | Firelemming | hmm |
| 18:31.23 | Recluse | try: draenor |
| 18:31.30 | Firelemming | o bah, duh :P |
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| 18:31.51 | Firelemming | !c eu draenor firelemming |
| 18:31.54 | ThraeBot | Firelemming: Firelemming, Level 70 Troll Mage (40/0/21). 7793 HP; 10826 Mana; 151 mana regen; 49 mp5; 148 spell crit; 108 spell hit; 1134 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1188); 54 shadow dmg (1188); 5.34% dodge; 36 resilience;[[ TBR: 901 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrf9x7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mow56 ][ Updated: Sun Feb 17 13:41:07 2008 EST ]] |
| 18:32.07 | Firelemming | nice |
| 18:32.14 | Kivin | If you need to look up lots of people, you can join #thraebot |
| 18:32.33 | Recluse | oh, he has his own channel? :p |
| 18:32.35 | Firelemming | ah! kewl |
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| 18:33.46 | Firelemming | Sorry Firelemming, you must wait 41 seconds before making another request. mhuhahaha |
| 18:34.40 | Recluse | lol |
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| 18:35.28 | Elsia | heya |
| 18:36.08 | Firelemming | o/ |
| 18:40.31 | Fth|Daemona | o.O |
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| 18:45.50 | Olison | .wowtools start |
| 18:45.51 | MrUseful | Wowtools active for channel #wowace (ChanID 414). Information for channelops and users is available under http://fireglow.de/wowbot.html |
| 18:51.16 | Elsia | !event |
| 18:51.47 | [SW]Dodge | Elsia: MrUseful on Freenode (all commands start with . instead of !) |
| 18:52.06 | Elsia | .event |
| 18:52.24 | Elsia | thx |
| 18:52.27 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 18:53.16 | Xinhuan | /run ShowUIPanel(RatingMenuFrame) <---- go try this command in game |
| 18:53.18 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 18:53.59 | Xinhuan | (its part of default UI) |
| 18:54.18 | Kivin | rofl |
| 18:55.10 | [SW]Dodge | lol! |
| 18:56.17 | Elsia | nice one |
| 18:56.22 | Elsia | too bad the buttons don't do anything yet |
| 18:56.40 | Xinhuan | they don't do anything in US or EU clients i guess :< |
| 18:57.03 | Xinhuan | or perhaps it is just informational |
| 18:57.07 | Elsia | whats that hand attacked by gender symbols? |
| 18:57.09 | Fth|Daemona | so anyone gonna translate those asian lettersbelow the pics? |
| 18:57.10 | Xinhuan | and not meant to be choosable options |
| 18:57.16 | Xinhuan | they are korean |
| 18:57.29 | Xinhuan | so unless someone here can read korean, unlikely |
| 18:57.33 | Elsia | or the guys shot down by arrows |
| 18:59.38 | Fisker- | works on mine Xinhuan |
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| 19:01.19 | Recluse | D= i thought GatherMate wasn't going to do treasures, ever |
| 19:01.54 | *** part/#wowace Morton (n=kolefrys@0x5358916c.vjnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:02.07 | Kivin | hmm i'm out dpsing an ele shaman with over 150 more spell dmg than me |
| 19:02.25 | Recluse | gear != skill |
| 19:03.47 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all :)= |
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| 19:05.57 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r61784 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (burningcrusade.cn.lua burningcrusade.tw.lua): |
| 19:05.57 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 19:05.57 | CIA-12 | - zhCN and zhTW locales update, I took over zhTW locale maintainces from now on. |
| 19:07.07 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r61785 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/ (original.cn.lua original.tw.lua): |
| 19:07.07 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 19:07.07 | CIA-12 | - zhCN and zhTW locales update, I took over zhTW locale maintainces from now on. |
| 19:07.57 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r61786 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.tw.lua: |
| 19:07.58 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 19:07.58 | CIA-12 | - zhTW locale update, I took over zhTW locale maintainces from now on. |
| 19:08.58 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r61787 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (5 files): |
| 19:08.58 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 19:08.58 | CIA-12 | - zhCN and zhTW locales update, I took over zhTW locale maintainces from now on. |
| 19:09.52 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r61788 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (WorldEvents.cn.lua WorldEvents.tw.lua WorldRaidBosses.tw.lua): |
| 19:09.52 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 19:09.52 | CIA-12 | - zhCN and zhTW locales update, I took over zhTW locale maintainces from now on. |
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| 19:13.08 | Gandharva | vhaarr: don't know if it's fixed yet... -> http://ace.pastey.net/82492 / http://ace.pastey.net/82493 |
| 19:13.51 | Gandharva | happens during raiding |
| 19:14.00 | Kjellviz | hi there, any cance of getting a hand with installing cartographer herbalism ? |
| 19:16.59 | vhaarr | Gandharva: it's not, I can't fix it now |
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| 19:21.35 | Hobby | !c us arthas bolar |
| 19:21.37 | ThraeBot | Hobby: Bolar, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (44/5/12). 8346 HP; 9642 Mana; 182 mana regen; 74 mp5; 9699 Armour; 4.11% melee crit; 203 spell crit; 62 spell hit; 678 +spell dmg/heal; 43 nature dmg (721); 4.76% dodge; 5.00% block; 88 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 695 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/263s5f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38fwbm ][ Updated: Sun Feb 17 14:30:51 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:22.06 | Kjellviz | i unpacked the cart_herbalism folder to /nterface/addons, nogo the addon does not load, not seen in adden management in charselection screen, tried moving it underneath /addons/cartographer/ but same issue, anyone have a idea what im doing wrong ? |
| 19:22.36 | Kjellviz | man the type-o's >< |
| 19:23.45 | Xinhuan | Kjellviz, simple. |
| 19:23.54 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Professions is required to be on/active |
| 19:24.02 | Xinhuan | for any of the _profession stuff to load |
| 19:24.07 | Snago | It's supposed to be in Interface/AddOns/ |
| 19:24.29 | Kjellviz | ive got cartographer_mining working fine |
| 19:24.44 | Xinhuan | look in your _Professions then |
| 19:24.44 | Kjellviz | so i reckon the proffesions module is loaded and working |
| 19:24.48 | Xinhuan | check your options |
| 19:24.54 | Xinhuan | it has loading options |
| 19:24.58 | Kjellviz | hmm ok |
| 19:25.01 | Xinhuan | like "with profession" |
| 19:25.12 | Kjellviz | ingame or in a lua ? |
| 19:25.12 | Xinhuan | or "always" or "only when active", etc |
| 19:25.15 | Xinhuan | ingame |
| 19:25.37 | Kjellviz | ahh that one |
| 19:25.42 | Kjellviz | only mining listed there |
| 19:26.43 | Kjellviz | gonna redownload it, maybe a corrupt download |
| 19:26.59 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r61789 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 19:26.59 | CIA-12 | PitBull - add a lot of fixes and provisions to the frame recycling system. |
| 19:26.59 | CIA-12 | - :IterateUnitFrames*() methods now only return frames that are shown |
| 19:26.59 | CIA-12 | - :OnUpdateFrame(unit, frame) is now :OnUpdateFrame(unit, frame, nonCrucial), where nonCrucial is true if the frame is a wacky frame that has not changed its name. |
| 19:27.31 | ckknight | part of me believes that that commit should fix a lot of issues with PitBull_Aura |
| 19:28.58 | Hobby | !c us arthas gnomethemage |
| 19:29.01 | ThraeBot | Hobby: Gnomethemage, Level 70 Gnome Mage (11/0/50). 6003 HP; 9611 Mana; 195 mana regen; 28 mp5; 90 spell crit; 63 spell hit; 405 +spell dmg/heal; 5.78% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10); +43 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 686 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hyxng ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mb2wm ][ Updated: Sun Feb 17 14:38:15 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:29.08 | Kjellviz | ckknight: thanks for taking the time to write such awesome addons, /salute |
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| 19:29.20 | ckknight | Kjellviz: :-) |
| 19:30.10 | Kjellviz | nope, still not showing up, it should be listed on the addon management page even if its set to not load ingame right ? |
| 19:30.33 | Xinhuan | did you restart wow fully? |
| 19:30.37 | Kjellviz | yes |
| 19:30.48 | Xinhuan | did you get any errors on login? |
| 19:30.56 | Kjellviz | lemme check bugsack |
| 19:31.18 | Cryect | Hmmm trying to use LibGUIDRegistry and for some reason it doesn't seem to load |
| 19:31.31 | Kjellviz | 2, both on talented, non critical and they have always been there >< |
| 19:31.41 | Xinhuan | it only works on 2.4 i think? |
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| 19:32.01 | Cryect | Xinhuan: well I know that |
| 19:32.15 | Cryect | But the library file itself doesn't load on 2.4 its in the addons list and everything :-/ |
| 19:32.29 | Kjellviz | could it be something in my WTF folder thats blocking it from loading ? |
| 19:33.42 | Xinhuan | libs are lod, so maybe no addon is using it? |
| 19:33.48 | Xinhuan | optdep, etc |
| 19:34.14 | Cryect | local GUIDRegistry = LibStub("LibGUIDRegistry-0.1") |
| 19:34.18 | Cryect | so that won't autostart it? |
| 19:34.35 | Cryect | Not sure if that changed or not with LibStub |
| 19:35.19 | Xinhuan | LibStub("LibGUIDRegistry-0.1") will retrieve the library if it already exists |
| 19:35.26 | Xinhuan | LibStub doesn't load any libs |
| 19:35.38 | Xinhuan | if you installed that lib standalone, your TOC must optdep it to load it |
| 19:36.02 | Cryect | Ah, used to Ace2 forcing it to load so I could be lazy about my TOC :-p |
| 19:36.12 | Xinhuan | ace2 is the only thing that tries to load libs, that habit is looked down on |
| 19:36.23 | Cryect | haha |
| 19:36.38 | Xinhuan | because if i disable a lib manually on the login screen, i clearly don't want it to load |
| 19:36.58 | Xinhuan | rather than me having to actually go rename/move the lib |
| 19:37.36 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r61790 10Chinchilla/Appearance/Appearance.lua: Chinchilla_Appearance - force alpha to 100% indoors. |
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| 19:42.36 | Antiarc | Afternoon folks |
| 19:42.40 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61791 10HandyNotes/ (HandyNotes.lua HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua): HandyNotes: You can now move notes by dragging. Slight API change to allow note dragging -- plugins supply code to do updates. |
| 19:42.44 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61792 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: Update API change (one extra arg passed in) |
| 19:43.58 | Kjellviz | i just cant understand why that addon wont load |
| 19:44.35 | Kivin | Have you made sure the toc file is in the right place? |
| 19:44.52 | Kivin | ie it isn't Interface\Addons\YourAddon\YourAddon\YourAddon.toc |
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| 19:45.50 | Cryect | hmmm thats not very useful, figure GUIDRegistry would try to store at least as much info as it knows instead of requiring there be an actual UnitID it can identify with |
| 19:45.54 | Kjellviz | sec ill doublecheck that |
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| 19:46.28 | Kjellviz | World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc |
| 19:46.35 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r61793 10Chinchilla/Appearance/Appearance.lua: Chinchilla_Appearance - manually refresh after CVAR_UPDATE |
| 19:46.51 | Kjellviz | but still, it doesent show on the addons management page prior to login |
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| 19:51.43 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61794 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Add an Arcane Buffet timer bar. |
| 19:53.13 | Killmore | is Archarodim here ? |
| 19:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Killmore probably not |
| 19:54.20 | sag_ich_nicht | why? |
| 19:54.50 | Killmore | suggestion for him |
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| 19:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i already asked him to switch over to babble-3.0 |
| 19:56.37 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61795 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Continent iterator now iterates over the continent itself as well as all its subzones. |
| 19:56.47 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r61796 10Skillet/LibPossessions.lua: |
| 19:56.47 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 19:56.47 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.47 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.48 | Xinhuan | Kjellviz, where did you install it to |
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| 19:58.08 | Fth|Daemona | http://www.wowbash.com//images/1202139758.jpg |
| 19:58.25 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: /World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/Cartographer_Herbalism |
| 20:00.01 | Xinhuan | not sure why it wouldn't work then |
| 20:00.16 | Kjellviz | meneither |
| 20:00.16 | Xinhuan | can you check that Cartographer_Herbalism.toc exists? |
| 20:00.18 | Xinhuan | in that folder |
| 20:00.21 | Kjellviz | it does |
| 20:00.28 | Xinhuan | now go look in |
| 20:00.31 | Grum | its LoD |
| 20:00.33 | Xinhuan | Logs\FrameXML.log |
| 20:00.52 | Xinhuan | tell me if you see anything wrong there about Herbalism (search for the word) |
| 20:00.53 | Kjellviz | ok ? |
| 20:01.23 | *** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@dsl-83.148.242-78-dynip.ssp.fi) |
| 20:01.45 | Kjellviz | got a pastbin ? can paste the content, it was short |
| 20:01.59 | Xinhuan | its in the channel topic |
| 20:02.07 | Grum | http://ace.pastey.net |
| 20:02.10 | CIA-12 | 03cryect 072.4 * r61797 10Recount2/ (Data.lua Recount2.toc Tracker.lua): |
| 20:02.11 | CIA-12 | Recount2: |
| 20:02.11 | CIA-12 | -Can compress the filtered data into a summary of stats for each combatant now via :CompressFilter() |
| 20:02.11 | CIA-12 | -Adds :PrintCompressedData() to output the compressed data stats in no particular order |
| 20:02.11 | CIA-12 | -Couple test functions :PrintDamageData() and :PrintHealData() |
| 20:02.32 | Grum | but i doubt there is something wrong with your _Herbalism, did you exit wow before you installed it? |
| 20:03.00 | Kjellviz | http://ace.pastey.net/82495 |
| 20:03.41 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 20:03.47 | Grum | hehe i had the same |
| 20:03.48 | Xinhuan | i asked you to look in Logs\FrameXML.log |
| 20:04.01 | Killmore | omg recount2 |
| 20:04.17 | Killmore | Cryect: usable ? |
| 20:04.17 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: sry i thougth u ment in the toc file >< |
| 20:04.23 | Fisker- | my farts smell |
| 20:04.33 | Grum | Killmore: only on PTR |
| 20:04.57 | Cryect | Sure its usable if you like collecting raw data tables that can't really be displayed |
| 20:05.04 | Cryect | well there is those print functions :-p |
| 20:05.14 | Cryect | has absolutely no GUI yet though |
| 20:05.17 | Grum | Cryect: final name will be 'Recount' right? |
| 20:05.23 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: nope, nothing on herbalism in FrameXML.log |
| 20:05.33 | Cryect | It will be Recount2 not Recount |
| 20:05.38 | Grum | why? |
| 20:05.38 | Cryect | they are quite different lets say |
| 20:06.10 | Grum | you cant use Recount anymore, so recycle the name and benefit from the autoupdating people :) |
| 20:06.10 | Xinhuan | ok, you're saying the addon is installed, but its not showing up on your login character selection screen |
| 20:06.10 | Cryect | What do you mean you can't use Recount anymore? |
| 20:06.10 | Xinhuan | is that correct? |
| 20:06.19 | Grum | Recount will be not working on 2.4 logs right? |
| 20:06.20 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: thats correct |
| 20:06.25 | Cryect | Recount already works on 2.4 |
| 20:06.42 | Grum | oooe so spiffy new version? |
| 20:06.42 | Cryect | check http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Recount/2.4 |
| 20:06.54 | Xinhuan | there is only 2 possible explanations - the TOC filename is not matching the folder name exactly, OR, you installed it in the wrong folder (say PTR wowtest vs your real wow) |
| 20:07.00 | Cryect | Yeah Recount 2 is a complete overhaul and written from scratch basically |
| 20:07.30 | Kjellviz | ok let me check on the filename (i dont have PTR client installed) |
| 20:07.53 | Cryect | Hence it has no GUI since I've not written that part yet at all, its at the moment mainly a test of the new data storage I'm utilizing |
| 20:08.15 | Grum | Xinhuan: or he never exited wow so it hasnt ever got the chance to load the .toc ;) |
| 20:08.18 | Grum | i opt for that one ;D |
| 20:08.26 | Xinhuan | except he said he restarted wow earlier |
| 20:08.38 | Grum | then its readonly or he lies about the directory layout ;D |
| 20:08.48 | Grum | humz |
| 20:08.53 | Grum | readonly would still work ofc >< |
| 20:08.55 | Grum | so he lies! |
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| 20:09.33 | alcaras | any ideas how to get HPS from DrDamage into ItemValue? |
| 20:10.16 | Cryect | thats basically what recount was :-p |
| 20:10.22 | Cryect | it was a prototype of a bunch of ideas |
| 20:10.33 | Cryect | and was never meant to stick around quite as long as it did before it got rewritten |
| 20:11.50 | sylvanaar | so, will/does sharedmedia support icons? |
| 20:12.30 | Cryect | Recount 2 of course adds in its own new ideas on how to let you filter/present the data as well as various GUI changes (though most them have existed in some form or another in other addons so most of thats not new really so much as hopefully refined) http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/Recount2.doc |
| 20:12.44 | sb_ | Cryect: proper framework/config? :P |
| 20:12.54 | Cryect | what do you mean proper config? |
| 20:13.05 | sylvanaar | cause, i would propose we extend the blizzard chat icon system so that you can do {star} or {sml-iconname} |
| 20:13.06 | sb_ | well... something 'clean' |
| 20:13.13 | sb_ | dont know how to describe it :) |
| 20:13.17 | Cryect | You mean not Ace3/Ace 2 config screens? :-p |
| 20:13.31 | sb_ | well ace3 config screen is fine |
| 20:13.43 | Cryect | Its better but not quite there |
| 20:13.43 | sb_ | (+ integration in blizz config thingie) |
| 20:14.04 | Cryect | Its hard to have a good dynamic config screen though |
| 20:14.16 | Cryect | thats easy to use that is |
| 20:14.34 | sylvanaar | thats true |
| 20:14.39 | Xinhuan | if it is not bloated like Recount currently is, Cryect, i might use Recount2 |
| 20:15.10 | Cryect | Haha thats the plan to hopefully not bloat it since I know what works and not works a lot better now |
| 20:15.34 | Cryect | Going to start writing the GUI framework here shortly after I get some laundry going |
| 20:15.47 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: the toc and foldername seems identical to me |
| 20:16.03 | Xinhuan | well for some reason, wow isn't recognizing it |
| 20:16.07 | JoshBorke | RELOG BITCH |
| 20:16.09 | alcaras | using ItemValue_DrDamage? |
| 20:16.17 | Kjellviz | thats what i was thinking too |
| 20:16.31 | JoshBorke | wait, wait, i didn't ping cryect with that |
| 20:16.34 | Xinhuan | you do realize wow doesn't recognize any new files until you restart it completely from the desktop right? |
| 20:16.39 | JoshBorke | Cryect: RELOG BITCH |
| 20:16.40 | Fth|Daemona | i got a even better suggestion |
| 20:16.40 | Xinhuan | you have restarted it as you claimed right? |
| 20:16.52 | Fth|Daemona | use WAU to reinstall your cartographer ;) |
| 20:17.08 | sylvanaar | what does that doe |
| 20:17.14 | sylvanaar | s/doe/so |
| 20:17.24 | sylvanaar | meh i always forget the last one |
| 20:17.28 | Fth|Daemona | and then reboot your machine ;) |
| 20:17.29 | Xinhuan | [2/18 03:30:18] <Xinhuan> did you restart wow fully? |
| 20:17.29 | Xinhuan | [2/18 03:30:23] <Kjellviz> yes |
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| 20:17.48 | Cryect | Yeah, I will get work on Relog after Recount2 is more usable |
| 20:18.13 | Grum | Relog? |
| 20:18.16 | Saroz_ | Reciybt is <3 |
| 20:18.19 | Fth|Daemona | Xinhuan, i learn something when i was in support training... in 95% of all cases the reason for the problem is approx. 0.5-1.0m away from the screen ;) |
| 20:18.21 | Saroz_ | recount* |
| 20:18.25 | Yssaril | Kjellviz: u using windows vista by any chance? |
| 20:18.39 | alcaras | as long as recount2 doesn't spam me with addon messages like recount1 does :-/ |
| 20:19.12 | Cryect | Relog - Is a filterable combat log (so like the new combat log) except uses tables to display the data so kinda like SWLog |
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| 20:19.18 | Xinhuan | Cryect, "bloat" is basically anything that exceeds the scope of an addon |
| 20:19.37 | Cryect | Recount1: Shouldn't spam you with msgs really anymore as of yesterday hopefully |
| 20:19.41 | Yssaril | Cryect: do you really even need to sync with the new combat log? i mean with assessment i jsut extend the log range to 200 yards and it is pretty damn accurate |
| 20:19.43 | Xinhuan | for example, Bongos action bar modifies and changes the loot roll box, and the minimap -- that's bloat |
| 20:19.55 | sylvanaar | "1) If you using Vista hang up and call 1 800 MS SUPPORT, 2) see #1" |
| 20:20.10 | Cryect | Yssaril: Yes, any fight where you teleport to new locations (ex. C'thun or new Sunwell boss) |
| 20:20.11 | Fin | syl! |
| 20:20.13 | Fth|Daemona | Cryect sounds like that option of sw_stats that i disabled by deleting the opts from my addon folder a year back ;) |
| 20:20.16 | Xinhuan | Recount embeds threat-1.0, that's bloat, etc |
| 20:20.17 | Tuller | Xinhuan: bongos action bar does not modify those :P |
| 20:20.19 | sylvanaar | "bloat" is whatever you want it to be |
| 20:20.21 | Fisker- | BEEP BEEP |
| 20:20.23 | Cryect | Yssaril: Or even Archimonde |
| 20:20.25 | Fisker- | I'M AN ALARM CLOCK |
| 20:20.29 | Saroz_ | What mod sends DTMR over comm channels? |
| 20:20.32 | Xinhuan | i think it does tuller, enough ppl on the forums complains about it |
| 20:20.43 | sylvanaar | Fin i dunno |
| 20:20.44 | Tuller | Xinhuan: an addon included with it does :) |
| 20:20.51 | Tuller | Xinhuan: but the action bar itself: nope! |
| 20:20.52 | Fin | sylvanaar: did you get the one I sent you, yet? |
| 20:20.55 | Xinhuan | like "where did my loot box rolling go" and the answer is to disable some bongos stuff |
| 20:20.55 | Ozguli | -22:19:27- (+Jagoo) our BT tactics are imba |
| 20:20.55 | Ozguli | -22:19:28- (+Jagoo) main raid strat: if you have trouble with a boss: stack enough Shamans until you dont |
| 20:21.08 | Xinhuan | well the fact is, that included addon is part of the core |
| 20:21.09 | Yssaril | Cryect: hmm true |
| 20:21.10 | Xinhuan | so it is bloat |
| 20:21.15 | sylvanaar | Fin yeah - look in the Forums under Frameworks, its in my post there |
| 20:21.19 | Xinhuan | or so called core package |
| 20:21.27 | Fin | heh, k, will do :) |
| 20:21.30 | Elsia | by that definition there is hardly anything in recount that's truly bloat ;) |
| 20:21.31 | Cryect | Xinhuan: My defination of bloat is different than yours :-p |
| 20:21.33 | Chompers | many people use recount in your raids Saroz? |
| 20:21.36 | Xinhuan | swstats_unilog is another example of bloat |
| 20:21.40 | Grum | <Saroz_> What mod sends DTMR over comm channels? <-- smells like 'DoTimer' |
| 20:21.53 | Cryect | I think of bloat more as ideas that weren't in the original framework and then got squeezed in |
| 20:21.55 | sylvanaar | bloat is 100% subjective |
| 20:21.57 | Saroz_ | it SPAMS channels, DMTR |
| 20:22.02 | Saroz_ | thought it was DamageMeters |
| 20:22.07 | Grum | could also be |
| 20:22.10 | Xinhuan | when i install a damage meters - i expect it to only record damage/healing stats and not threat/network usage |
| 20:22.13 | Grum | dunno but that is more likely Saroz |
| 20:22.15 | Fth|Daemona | haha old dotimer, my favourite reason to flame dot-users in raid. |
| 20:22.22 | Elsia | xin: that's subjective actually |
| 20:22.26 | Saroz_ | recount fucking pwns |
| 20:22.28 | Kjellviz | Yssaril: no, linux |
| 20:22.32 | Saroz_ | sucks memory, but pwns |
| 20:22.50 | Grum | Elsia: actually, its not, if you happen to have Threat-1.0 *THEN* it should show it |
| 20:22.53 | Grum | not by default |
| 20:23.01 | Xinhuan | ill concede its subjective, but the choice isn't there at all |
| 20:23.10 | Saroz_ | It's DOTimer |
| 20:23.14 | Cryect | Xinhuan just wants the data recorded to be modular :-p |
| 20:23.14 | Grum | not really plug and play |
| 20:23.16 | Elsia | well recount needs mobnametranslation, so it kind of uses theat-1.0 for that.. in a sense threat-1.0 is bloated ;) |
| 20:23.19 | sylvanaar | where you see bloat in an addon, someone else might think that you have low expectations |
| 20:23.19 | Tuller | Xinhuan: the minimap I do agree with, it was not originally part of the scope, but cast bar + rollbar + fps are logical steps :) |
| 20:23.35 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: i actually like threat in my dmg meters cause its kinda like the meter for tanks :) |
| 20:23.48 | Xinhuan | well the current recount won't run at all if you don't have threat installed, right? |
| 20:23.52 | Elsia | because it already uses threat-1.0 anyway, adding the display is hardly bloat and saves people to use omen if they don't want to... or so one could argue |
| 20:23.53 | Xinhuan | not everyone wants threat installed |
| 20:24.02 | Fin | sylvanaar: awesome |
| 20:24.05 | Xinhuan | ktm users might not want it, for eg |
| 20:24.07 | Grum | those people should be shot Xinhuan :D |
| 20:24.07 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: sorry for the late reply, got help with a elite quest there |
| 20:24.18 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: yes i did restart wow fully |
| 20:24.19 | Elsia | but that isn't really a problem of recount, but a problem of threat-1.0 |
| 20:24.21 | Xinhuan | and most healers don't bother running a threat meter, because |
| 20:24.30 | Xinhuan | they know they won't pull aggro |
| 20:24.32 | Grum | Xinhuan: that just sucks tbh |
| 20:24.32 | alcaras | any ideas how to get HPS from DrDamage into ItemValue using DrDamage_ItemValue? |
| 20:24.37 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: but to be sure i will do it again ^^ |
| 20:24.46 | Ozguli | Xinhuan sometimes a healer will pull aggro |
| 20:24.48 | Cryect | Recount kinda makes use of threat-1.0 also for name translation :-p but thats gotten rid of though in 2.4 |
| 20:24.50 | Ozguli | aoe stuff etc |
| 20:25.03 | [VM]Mysticfox | recount for 2.4 seems really buggy =/ |
| 20:25.03 | Xinhuan | the only time a healer will pull aggro in a raid boss is 1. A new mob spawns halfway thru a fight 2. First 5 secs of a pull |
| 20:25.13 | sylvanaar | so guys - any interest in putting icons into SML? or are they already there? |
| 20:25.16 | Xinhuan | there's no other reason a healer will pull aggro |
| 20:25.17 | Xinhuan | ever |
| 20:25.22 | [VM]Mysticfox | at least the build of recount that I was using last night was |
| 20:25.35 | Cryect | report the bugs to Elsia |
| 20:25.40 | Fin | Xinhuan, of course there is |
| 20:25.45 | Xinhuan | and you can't tell healers to "hey stop healing" |
| 20:25.54 | Fin | there's all sorts of reasons when you stop assuming that every single fight you ever do will go perfectly |
| 20:26.07 | Elsia | mystic: I'm always looking forward to detailed bug reports for 2.4, it's kind of alpha currently |
| 20:26.29 | Xinhuan | well when was the last time a healer pulled aggro on a raid boss ? can you remember it? |
| 20:26.31 | [VM]Mysticfox | ok, well I wasn't really sure what was up with it but it wasn't displaying any collected data for a while |
| 20:26.37 | Xinhuan | and isn't any of the 2 above cases |
| 20:26.53 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: nope still nogo, and to be really really sure im gonna restart comp now =P |
| 20:26.54 | Kjellviz | brb |
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| 20:27.13 | [VM]Mysticfox | I had to do /recount standby to turn it off and on and clear the data before it would actually update properly |
| 20:27.19 | Xinhuan | i was about to say " Kjellviz get rid of cartographer_mining/herb and get gathermate" ;p |
| 20:27.31 | Elsia | mystic: hmm |
| 20:27.49 | Elsia | next time it happens, can you turn on all Show filters and check if you get something under unknown? |
| 20:27.54 | Cryect | Anyways the only real data recording that will be in the default Recount 2 is damage/healing more advanced recording will be shifted to modules which should make you happy Xinhuan |
| 20:27.54 | [VM]Mysticfox | I'll be sure I have the latest build tonight |
| 20:27.54 | Elsia | maybe mobs didn't get properly classified |
| 20:27.59 | Elsia | cool |
| 20:28.01 | [VM]Mysticfox | sure |
| 20:28.20 | [VM]Mysticfox | would really like a 2.4 version of omen & msbt though =p |
| 20:28.27 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 20:28.27 | Xinhuan | excellent, now if only blizzard will smarten up and not require LoD modules to be in its own addon folder |
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| 20:28.34 | Elsia | omen2/threat-2.0 is in the works |
| 20:28.35 | [VM]Mysticfox | those are the only mods I really miss right now on the PTR |
| 20:28.41 | [VM]Mysticfox | yup, I know =) |
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| 20:28.47 | Kerafyrm | threat-2.0 afaik works |
| 20:28.58 | Kerafyrm | omen2 is getting a complete rewrite |
| 20:29.19 | Yssaril | btw anyone hear if KTM is being worked on for 2.4? |
| 20:29.26 | [VM]Mysticfox | is there anything that I could use to display threat data though in 2.4? |
| 20:29.27 | Xinhuan | threat-2.0 is a complete rewrite too heh |
| 20:29.28 | Cryect | Xinhuan: now that would be nice :-p, be great if could have Recount2/Modules folder and it could just load files in their |
| 20:29.31 | Cryect | there* |
| 20:29.41 | [VM]Mysticfox | that's using threat-2.0 |
| 20:29.41 | Fin | first, what does it matter what the reasons are? as long as there's a single reason that's enough; and second, honestly I haven't raided in weeks, but spamming greater heals + prayer of healing - when necessary, because people have lost health due to one reason or another (new to the fight, shit gear, shit players, whatever), it's not that difficult to pull aggro on some fights |
| 20:29.54 | Kerafyrm | [VM]Mysticfox: you'd have to ask Antiarc, i don't think he's released his work in progress |
| 20:29.56 | Xinhuan | its pretty silly to see like 15 cartographer folders |
| 20:30.00 | Xinhuan | and 15 more librock folders |
| 20:30.09 | Xinhuan | and then 15 more quartz folders |
| 20:30.17 | [VM]Mysticfox | can be easy to pull aggro as a mage with cooldowns too early =p |
| 20:30.20 | Cryect | You mean like 15 Mapster folders right ;) |
| 20:30.28 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 20:30.34 | Xinhuan | i didn't write mapster ;p |
| 20:30.45 | Kjellviz | Xinhuan: solved =) |
| 20:31.00 | Cryect | Xinhuan uses Cartographer obviously! |
| 20:31.08 | Xinhuan | actually, i don't anymore |
| 20:31.13 | Cryect | I know you don't |
| 20:31.21 | Cryect | Routes only works with mapster right? |
| 20:31.26 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:31.26 | Fin | the easiest way to prove your point is to show that you're right with an example :P |
| 20:31.31 | Xinhuan | i only switched to mapster 5 days ago |
| 20:31.44 | Kjellviz | mapster ? |
| 20:31.49 | cKep | WTB highres fraps of felmyst next time @ mystic ^.^ |
| 20:31.50 | Cryect | wait you only switched 5 days ago but you've been coding Routes for how long? |
| 20:32.00 | [VM]Mysticfox | Is the latest 2.4 build of recount on the wowace SVN? |
| 20:32.02 | Xinhuan | i still use cartograhper_treasure |
| 20:32.02 | Fin | it's that .com that went bust trying to sell people online directions |
| 20:32.09 | Stanzilla | [21:31:25] <Cryect> Routes only works with mapster right? < no |
| 20:32.09 | Xinhuan | i only switched after gathermate added treasure |
| 20:32.26 | Xinhuan | however i still need to keep copies of gatherer, cartographer+modules, titan panel, and a few hundred other things around |
| 20:32.33 | Xinhuan | just to make sure my addons work with them |
| 20:32.35 | Elsia | routes works with cartographer |
| 20:32.39 | Cryect | oh okay |
| 20:32.50 | Cryect | for some reason thought it was only one |
| 20:32.54 | Xinhuan | Routes works on anything |
| 20:32.56 | Kjellviz | is Mapster ace'd ? |
| 20:33.08 | Cryect | oh no someone asking is something ace'd |
| 20:33.09 | Stanzilla | "ace'd" |
| 20:33.11 | [SW]Dodge | mapster = ace3 |
| 20:33.14 | Stanzilla | *shudder* |
| 20:33.19 | Xinhuan | Routes can use data from Gatherer/Cartographer/Gathermate |
| 20:33.26 | Fin | ace'd up and ready for insertion |
| 20:33.27 | Xinhuan | so if you have all 3 of those data sources loaded at the same time |
| 20:33.29 | Chompers | hi, i want to find an aced'd version of ace2 |
| 20:33.32 | Xinhuan | routes can even use data from all 3 |
| 20:33.36 | Chompers | does this exist |
| 20:33.49 | Fin | yno |
| 20:34.03 | Kjellviz | sigh =P |
| 20:34.07 | Firelemming | so mapster is the new carto, or im completly wrong now? |
| 20:34.12 | Kjellviz | is Mapster a Ace addon ? |
| 20:34.13 | Kjellviz | >< |
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| 20:34.24 | alcaras | How can I get at DrDamage's HPS info for a spell via an ItemValue formula? |
| 20:34.28 | [SW]Dodge | mapster = ace3 |
| 20:34.31 | [SW]Dodge | @ Kjellviz |
| 20:34.49 | Kjellviz | [SW]Dodge: ok thanks |
| 20:35.05 | bigzero | what's that website that has all the UI files for all wow versions? |
| 20:35.09 | Kjellviz | is it avail for the public ? |
| 20:35.13 | bigzero | ~framexml |
| 20:35.13 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 20:35.31 | bigzero | ha, remembered :-) |
| 20:35.41 | Fin | oh, darling *do* try and keep up - carto *was* the new metamap and metamap *will be* the new mapster - c'est tres simple, non? ahaha |
| 20:36.00 | Fin | also those in the know are whispering that pink will be this season's new black |
| 20:36.05 | Elsia | is metamap any good these days? |
| 20:36.12 | [SW]Dodge | Kjellviz: mapster is in WAU :) |
| 20:36.16 | Chompers | that still exists? |
| 20:36.26 | [VM]Mysticfox | Recount 61715 the latest 2.4 build? |
| 20:36.33 | Chompers | you'll be telling me damagemeters is still used next |
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| 20:36.46 | [VM]Mysticfox | I've got 61669 |
| 20:36.53 | Elsia | 61715 is latest |
| 20:36.54 | Fin | we *must* do lunch |
| 20:37.01 | Kjellviz | [SW]Dodge: and WAU is ? |
| 20:37.08 | Fin | ~wau |
| 20:37.09 | purl | wau is probably WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 20:37.09 | [VM]Mysticfox | Alright, I'll get 61715 for tonight before our raid and see how it works =) |
| 20:37.12 | Kultar | anyone having pitbull problems today? |
| 20:37.16 | Fin | ~pitbull |
| 20:37.16 | purl | hmm... pitbull is a unitframe designed to be as efficient as possible while still having a lot of customization, and it being made by ckknight and others. (layouts: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 thread: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6823.0) |
| 20:37.18 | Kjellviz | ohhh the updater ? |
| 20:37.21 | Fin | ~updater |
| 20:37.24 | Chompers | what is love? |
| 20:37.26 | Kivin | pitbull, efficient o_o |
| 20:37.27 | Fin | ~love |
| 20:37.28 | purl | BABY DON'T HURT ME, DON'T HURT ME, NO MORE |
| 20:37.38 | [SW]Dodge | wowaceupdater |
| 20:37.40 | Chompers | awesome |
| 20:37.41 | Cryect | ~poke |
| 20:37.42 | Killmore | Kivin: designed to be :P |
| 20:37.47 | Kivin | Killmore: lols |
| 20:37.56 | Elsia | ~poke Cryect |
| 20:37.56 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cryect, pokes Cryect repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:38.02 | Fin | ~lol |
| 20:38.03 | purl | methinks lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 20:38.06 | [SW]Dodge | Kjellviz: files.wowace.com/Mapster/Mapster.zip |
| 20:38.10 | Kjellviz | [SW]Dodge: thanks again ^^ any idea if it runs in wine ? =P |
| 20:38.15 | Elsia | ~stalk fin |
| 20:38.16 | purl | ACTION furtively infiltrates fin's shadows and when fin is turned away jumps out to take a picture with his camera phone! |
| 20:38.17 | Fin | ~wine |
| 20:38.18 | purl | Emulator of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs.. URL: http://www.winehq.com/, or a good way of curing the aches and pains of a systems integrator, or not half as good as beer, or best served in a clean wine glass after supper, or comes in may colours and flavors |
| 20:38.27 | [SW]Dodge | dunno but you can try jwu |
| 20:38.28 | [SW]Dodge | wu |
| 20:38.30 | Cryect | ~stab fin |
| 20:38.31 | purl | ACTION runs at fin with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 20:38.31 | [SW]Dodge | ~jwu |
| 20:38.32 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 20:38.36 | Elsia | anyway enough play... time to do some coding... |
| 20:38.56 | Cryect | more like time to do laundry and pack for GDC |
| 20:38.57 | Fin | ~time |
| 20:38.58 | purl | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2008.02.17 20:38:58 GMT) |
| 20:39.07 | alcaras | How can I get at DrDamage's HPS info for a spell via an ItemValue formula? |
| 20:39.36 | Fin | ~drdamage |
| 20:39.38 | Kjellviz | ill check it out! thanks =) |
| 20:39.44 | Fin | aiee! spurned! |
| 20:40.02 | Elsia | anyone thought about the craziest bloat thing: NPC GUID to name mapping from WDB data extraction in a lib (or libs)? |
| 20:40.38 | cKep | guess that lib would take up a massive memory ^.^ |
| 20:40.43 | Elsia | yeps :D |
| 20:40.49 | cKep | *amount |
| 20:40.55 | Elsia | well you could do instance modules and such |
| 20:41.00 | Fin | would the term "bloated" apply? |
| 20:41.08 | alcaras | How can I get at DrDamage's HPS info for a spell via an ItemValue formula?:-( |
| 20:41.17 | Fin | I hear bloat is the new modularisation |
| 20:41.20 | alcaras | DrDamage_ItemValue only averages hit/crit for spells, and thus ignores haste |
| 20:41.28 | Medlir | Anyone know of a good util to show out of date addons, including non-ace ones, rather than loading the game itself. |
| 20:41.41 | Corgan | I've got one. |
| 20:41.43 | Corgan | In my pants. |
| 20:41.46 | Fin | retro is the new new |
| 20:41.54 | Fin | actually, it is |
| 20:41.57 | Fin | pretty much always |
| 20:42.01 | Fin | which makes it the new old! |
| 20:42.03 | Corgan | retro is the retro retro |
| 20:42.16 | Elsia | medlir: grep for ## Interface: 20400 in .toc files might work |
| 20:42.26 | Elsia | or whatever version you want to select for |
| 20:42.39 | Medlir | Ah, didn't even think of that, but that will work well enough. |
| 20:43.17 | Nerox | Anyone know of an addon that works just like Cartographer but might possibly be lower on the memory and still have some of the same fuctions / perks? |
| 20:43.35 | Elsia | mapster+gathermate+routes |
| 20:43.36 | alcaras | Anyone here use ItemValue_DrDamage? |
| 20:44.16 | Camci | Lo folks, im looking for a program to do such as magazines, or books or such kind... i recall a program called Adobe Illustrator, is it such a prog or can anyone recommnd anything else? |
| 20:44.40 | Fin | no |
| 20:45.08 | Camci | no Adobe Illustrator is not such program? |
| 20:45.15 | Nerox | Thanks Elsia :) |
| 20:45.18 | sylvanaar | we need to come up with a good term for the opposite of "bloated" which is both equally insulting and meaninngless at the same time |
| 20:45.32 | Corgan | useless/ |
| 20:45.34 | Corgan | ?* |
| 20:45.35 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 20:45.39 | sylvanaar | that was my first thought |
| 20:45.44 | Fin | overextended |
| 20:46.11 | Elsia | spartanic? |
| 20:46.33 | Chompers | sgrivly |
| 20:46.34 | Elsia | as in minimalist to a fault that anything but the bare raw is allowable |
| 20:46.38 | Chompers | *shrivly |
| 20:46.47 | bigzero | hey Fin, how is Mirror working out for you? if you still use it |
| 20:46.51 | Chompers | deflated |
| 20:46.52 | sylvanaar | yeah - but it has to carry a negative connotation |
| 20:46.58 | [VM]Mysticfox | one thing I've noticed with recount lately is when I start the game the bar textures on my recount are incorrect and it uses the standard blizzard texture rather than my Hal O texture |
| 20:47.02 | Elsia | deprived? |
| 20:47.05 | Chompers | condensed |
| 20:47.06 | sylvanaar | so minimalist -> pointless |
| 20:47.19 | [VM]Mysticfox | even though I have Hal O selected as the texture for recount to use: http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08070/wowscrnshot_021008_043653920.jpg |
| 20:47.22 | Fin | encrusted slumpy wheezing stretched fat gorged dirty reaching the end of its support life cycle |
| 20:47.24 | Zedde | Camci: I would sat publisher |
| 20:47.30 | [VM]Mysticfox | err not that link |
| 20:47.31 | Cryect | [VM]Mysticfox: whatever loads the bar texture you are using isn't being loaded before Recount is being loaded |
| 20:47.37 | Elsia | I rather not have another useless word tbh.. having bloat is bad enough |
| 20:48.16 | Chompers | call it smooooth |
| 20:48.21 | [VM]Mysticfox | ah =) |
| 20:48.25 | Zedde | say |
| 20:48.25 | Chompers | man, that recount 2 is smoooooth |
| 20:48.32 | Corgan | we could call the addons anorexic |
| 20:48.46 | Elsia | mystic: install sharedmedia-2.0 |
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| 20:49.04 | Fin | worn thinned frayed tired sloppy suffering internal cranial bleeding |
| 20:49.13 | Cryect | Recount prolly should be set up to wait till all addons before trying to use its texture instead of waiting for OnInitialize |
| 20:49.20 | [VM]Mysticfox | yeah I cryect just told me it why =p |
| 20:49.24 | Elsia | mystic: the problem occurs if you are still running sharedMedia-1.0 but recount updated to 2.0 |
| 20:49.30 | bigzero | ~slap Fin |
| 20:49.31 | purl | ACTION slaps Fin, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:49.34 | [VM]Mysticfox | alright I'll try 2.0 thanks |
| 20:49.39 | Elsia | ;) |
| 20:49.59 | Corgan | mystic, I want that bagmod >:( |
| 20:50.10 | Elsia | cryect: problem is you don't know if you should wait for sharedmedia or sharedmedia-2.0 |
| 20:50.21 | [VM]Mysticfox | err yeah I uploaded the latest screenshot from my main wow folder rather than my wowtest folder, oops |
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| 20:50.55 | Cryect | Elsia: Hence you wait till all addons are loaded on whatever event that was (can't remmeber the one before onenterworld and after individual addon loading) |
| 20:51.08 | [VM]Mysticfox | corgan, it's arkinventory 2 =p |
| 20:51.17 | Corgan | mmmm |
| 20:51.18 | [VM]Mysticfox | love it |
| 20:51.25 | Corgan | I meant the skin/catagorization |
| 20:51.26 | Corgan | :p |
| 20:51.29 | sylvanaar | "frivolous" "paltry" |
| 20:51.31 | Elsia | possibly... best to tell people to update dependencies... we could have SharedMedia (not 2.0) in the optdeps too and that'd solve it too |
| 20:51.32 | [VM]Mysticfox | ah |
| 20:51.46 | [VM]Mysticfox | I just spent a while customizing it for everything |
| 20:51.49 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: you talking about VARIABLES_LOADED? |
| 20:52.14 | sylvanaar | ok - does something add Icon textures to SML? Or do i need to make a forum post about it |
| 20:52.22 | Cryect | Well Elsia, that doesn't fix if an addon loads a texture that isn't included in SharedMedia itself that loads after recount and you are using that texture |
| 20:52.49 | Cryect | Arrowmaster: Yeah thats it I think was too lazy to look it up and wasn't actually going to go change it this moment :-p |
| 20:52.50 | Elsia | true |
| 20:53.29 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: LSM-3.0 should fix this issue, i wont name names but somebody that ported SML to LSM fucked up and left out an important feature |
| 20:53.58 | Cryect | What the gettexturename feature? :-p |
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| 20:54.13 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r61798 10ChatStamp/icon.tga: ChatStamp: - New icon for Minimap & FuBar |
| 20:54.15 | Xinhuan | i question whether it was possible to fix lsm by adding that missing feature |
| 20:55.44 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r61799 10ChatStamp/ChatStamp.toc: ChatStamp: - Increment release version # in .toc. Release tag follow immediately. |
| 20:57.29 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r61800 10/tags/ChatStamp_20300.02/: ChatStamp: - Release version 20300.02 |
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| 20:58.12 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61801 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Bugfix. |
| 20:59.47 | Elsia | how much of a performance advantage is it to use local bit_band = bit.band() over the bit.band() directly? |
| 21:00.30 | Cryect | small but adds up if you use it a lot |
| 21:00.59 | Cryect | in general if you plan to use something a few times might as well cache it into a local variable (especially for things involving a lot of table lookups) |
| 21:01.29 | Kivin | I'm a little anal about that... prefer not to look up the same global more than once |
| 21:01.44 | Xinhuan | lets just say, a table lookup is COSTLY. |
| 21:02.21 | Elsia | alright |
| 21:02.22 | Cryect | yeah since every table lookup is a hash map operation which while it might be constant time is expensive |
| 21:02.26 | nevcairiel | its not _that_ bad |
| 21:02.30 | Elsia | global replace is your friend ;) |
| 21:02.32 | Xinhuan | if your addon only needs to register for 2 or 3 events, i wouldn't even use ace-event because looking up the table to call the correct function is worse than a couple of event == equality checks |
| 21:03.05 | Elsia | not using any ace-events... just parsing combat log filters using bit.band() in if statements |
| 21:03.18 | Cryect | cache it then |
| 21:03.28 | Xinhuan | no real reason not to cache it |
| 21:03.30 | Antiarc | If you're parsing the combat log, use an upvalue |
| 21:03.37 | Antiarc | That's a LOT of table lookups you'll end up doing |
| 21:03.50 | Antiarc | It's a very easy way to improve performance |
| 21:04.02 | Kivin | I sometimes wonder how much time could be saved if blizzard removed the gluttonous use of globals in their framexml |
| 21:04.05 | Kivin | would it even matter? |
| 21:04.37 | Xinhuan | it probably will improve fps by 5 or 10 |
| 21:04.42 | Elsia | is nFlags-SOME_FLAGS faster than bit_band(nFlags,SOME_FLAGS), i mean for perfect matches where I can ask nFlags-SOME_FLAGS == 0 |
| 21:04.49 | Xinhuan | if they removed all those globals |
| 21:04.58 | Cryect | if you want to match it for equality |
| 21:05.05 | Cryect | well |
| 21:05.11 | Cryect | bit_band is differnet logic |
| 21:05.18 | Cryect | actually guess the same |
| 21:05.23 | Cryect | don't use bitlib then |
| 21:05.26 | Cryect | since its slow |
| 21:05.37 | Xinhuan | nFlags-SOME_FLAGS == 0 is a ALU operation for deducting a number to the other, followed by an equality test |
| 21:05.42 | Elsia | in some cases I don't have a choice, but in perfect matches I can do subtractions I suppose |
| 21:05.46 | Xinhuan | you are better off with nFlags == SOME_FLAGS |
| 21:05.58 | Xinhuan | which is just a direct equality test, without involving the minus operator |
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| 21:06.05 | Fth|Daemona | haha you wanna know what you get when a maintank gets bored in Orgrimmar ? -> http://i30.tinypic.com/34grbxc.jpg |
| 21:06.19 | Elsia | hmm actually I just realized I can't flags-SOME_FLAGS :/ |
| 21:06.26 | Xinhuan | bit_band(nFlags,SOME_FLAGS) <-- this is a function call, which invokes a function call stack etc etc, its sow |
| 21:06.27 | Xinhuan | slow |
| 21:06.51 | Antiarc | Elsia: That's what XOR is for ;) |
| 21:07.00 | Kivin | what does band do? |
| 21:07.05 | Antiarc | bitwise and |
| 21:07.07 | Elsia | band is bit and |
| 21:07.10 | Cairenn | <plug> new feature on wowi, pick(s) of the week: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14961 </plug> |
| 21:07.10 | Xinhuan | band is short for "bitwise and" |
| 21:07.17 | Kivin | isn't there an operator? |
| 21:07.20 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 21:07.22 | Xinhuan | not in lua |
| 21:07.23 | Kivin | gah |
| 21:07.23 | Elsia | they really should have called it bit.and... the b is redundant |
| 21:07.26 | Kivin | silly lua |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-12 | 03kameril * r61802 10Dock/ (8 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-12 | Dock: |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-12 | -Minimap flashing in tab mode should be fixed. |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-12 | -Locking a Dock also locks the tab. |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-12 | -Added an 'ignore clicks' option separated from locking. |
| 21:07.29 | CIA-12 | -GameMenuFrame is now blacklisted to avoid tainting. |
| 21:07.31 | CIA-12 | -ChatWindows module has an option to lock a chat frame's zoom when a new message is received. |
| 21:07.37 | Cryect | well the b isn't redundant |
| 21:07.43 | Nerox | Daemona: Lol, nice SS |
| 21:08.01 | Cryect | but yeah just cache it to bit_and |
| 21:08.03 | Cryect | thats what I do :-p |
| 21:08.17 | Xinhuan | Cairenn: try /run ShowUIPanel(RatingMenuFrame) in game ;p |
| 21:08.19 | Cryect | might confuse someone else I guess though |
| 21:08.33 | Elsia | I'll stick with bit_band for consistency |
| 21:09.01 | Elsia | anyway, combat log stuff is already much faster than all the string parsing |
| 21:09.06 | Cryect | Yeah |
| 21:09.24 | Cryect | I was surprised to see how little cpu time Recount 2 is using for processing |
| 21:10.12 | Xinhuan | hurray for higher fps in raids |
| 21:10.18 | Kerafyrm | yup yup |
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| 21:11.00 | sylvanaar | function calls in lua arent that slow btw whoever said that |
| 21:11.16 | Xinhuan | they aren't that slow, but they are still slow sylvanaar |
| 21:11.37 | Cryect | slower than inline |
| 21:11.50 | Elsia | that's true for assembly :P |
| 21:11.58 | Cryect | thats true for C especially |
| 21:12.03 | Xinhuan | it still takes time to set up the call stack, copy the args over, do a program counter jump, then return from it ;p |
| 21:12.10 | Cryect | assembly isn't bad since you normally aren't loading a lot onto the stack |
| 21:12.11 | sylvanaar | there is no call stack really |
| 21:12.49 | Cryect | Lua stackless or something? |
| 21:12.51 | Elsia | I just mean it's generic that inlining is faster than function calls, for any level of programming abstraction ;) |
| 21:13.29 | sylvanaar | parameters are basically new upvalues |
| 21:13.38 | bigzero | i thought lua was based on c++ |
| 21:13.54 | sylvanaar | they just get removed from the stack at the end of the call |
| 21:13.59 | Xinhuan | it is still technically a callstack |
| 21:14.00 | Elsia | I'm actually in the process of deinlining some Recount code to make coding easier... may inline it all when tested, but for now it's easier to modify one function instead of 18 spots |
| 21:14.16 | mattswell | what will usually cause a "attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)" error? i've checked what is being indexed, and there are no nil values... |
| 21:14.35 | bigzero | a[15].something |
| 21:14.42 | bigzero | where a[15] is nil |
| 21:14.49 | mattswell | hmm |
| 21:14.58 | Diao | ckknight error with latest pitbull here: http://ace.pastey.net/82498 |
| 21:15.05 | mattswell | would also a[15][4] cause that |
| 21:15.08 | mattswell | if a[15] was nil |
| 21:15.09 | bigzero | yes |
| 21:15.18 | mattswell | i'll check for that |
| 21:15.20 | mattswell | thanks |
| 21:15.35 | Xinhuan | lua> a = {} print(a[15][4]) |
| 21:15.36 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 21:15.39 | Xinhuan | tada |
| 21:15.50 | ckknight | Diao: how to reproduce? |
| 21:15.57 | Diao | uh |
| 21:16.00 | Diao | i targetted a battlemaster |
| 21:16.03 | Diao | and then clicked off it |
| 21:16.18 | Diao | then the target frame no longer shows up |
| 21:16.23 | bigzero | is there a 2.4 version of fubar yet? |
| 21:16.47 | Xinhuan | fubar didn't break in 2.4 |
| 21:16.51 | ckknight | bigzero: I don't think that's necessary |
| 21:16.51 | alcaras | Anyone here use ItemValue_DrDamage? |
| 21:16.53 | Xinhuan | so why would there be a "2.4 version" |
| 21:16.54 | bigzero | something broke.. |
| 21:17.04 | bigzero | it's not orking right on the test realm |
| 21:17.08 | bigzero | working* |
| 21:17.12 | cKep | worked fine for me |
| 21:17.16 | Xinhuan | "not working" means what? |
| 21:17.36 | bigzero | icon's for addons aren't displaying |
| 21:17.47 | ckknight | learn to use apostrophes. |
| 21:17.58 | Diao | hm |
| 21:18.00 | bigzero | yeah no kidding |
| 21:18.02 | Xinhuan | all icons? |
| 21:18.08 | Diao | altaura hasn't been updated to take advantage of the new method either |
| 21:18.10 | bigzero | let me load some more addons |
| 21:18.23 | Diao | same link, added the new error a few lines down ckknight |
| 21:19.00 | Elsia | unitid "raidtarget1" is for raid icon 1? |
| 21:19.12 | ckknight | Diao: do you use OmniCC? |
| 21:19.17 | Diao | yep |
| 21:19.18 | ckknight | or something like it? |
| 21:19.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:19.51 | ckknight | Diao: I'm going to a battlemaster now |
| 21:20.34 | Diao | after the initial error, whenever i target anything, the target frame no longer has anything on it. It's just a blank rectangle lol |
| 21:20.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm seeing the same thing, just now |
| 21:21.11 | Estil | :o |
| 21:21.16 | Elsia | hmm the wiki doesn't cover this. maybe there isn't a unitid for raid icon targets :P, so how to map COMBATLOG_OBJECT_RAIDTARGET1 then? |
| 21:21.46 | cKep | raidtargets never had an unitid until now, don't think they just got one |
| 21:22.04 | Elsia | uh, I just have the weirdest idea how to identify non-unique pets. sprinkle raid icons! |
| 21:22.32 | Elsia | and wait for them to do something combat log worthy :P |
| 21:23.16 | Xinhuan | i don't think you can elsia? |
| 21:23.32 | Xinhuan | especially since raid icons can change midcombat |
| 21:23.41 | Elsia | xin: I know |
| 21:23.54 | Elsia | another question though: is there an event that fires when a raid icon is set/changed? |
| 21:24.00 | Xinhuan | i don't really think raid icons is a reliable way anyway |
| 21:24.21 | Elsia | then they should have dropped COMBATLOG_OBJECT_RAIDTARGET1-8 because it can't be used really |
| 21:24.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: not sure if you figured this out already, but the error seems reproducable if you target a mob that has a buff/debuff that omnicc's got a timer on, and then untarget the mob. |
| 21:24.42 | Xinhuan | "RAID_TARGET_UPDATE" |
| 21:24.46 | [VM]Mysticfox | yay, 100% of my addons are working on the PTR without errors =) ... well except MSBT and Omen which I'm still waiting for updates on =p |
| 21:24.47 | Elsia | cool, thanks |
| 21:24.47 | Xinhuan | |
| 21:24.48 | Xinhuan | New in 1.11. Fired when a raid target icon is changed or removed. Also fired when player join or leave a party or raid. arg1 is who gets updated. |
| 21:24.57 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: lemme check OmniCC's code |
| 21:25.04 | Xinhuan | Note: Does not get triggered if a mob wearing a raid target icon dies (the icon is removed from that mob, however.) |
| 21:25.13 | Elsia | that's fine |
| 21:25.19 | cKep | you don't have to GetRaidTargetIndex(...) the whole time |
| 21:25.24 | Xinhuan | appears that the documentation is incorrect even |
| 21:25.26 | Xinhuan | there is no arg1 |
| 21:25.30 | cKep | for showing the icon in a combatlog-like-thingie |
| 21:25.31 | Xinhuan | its just the event itself, no args |
| 21:25.33 | Elsia | I just want to know who last got the icon, and when I get a combat log trigger I can identify that target |
| 21:25.50 | Xinhuan | it doesn't tell you what icon got changed though |
| 21:25.55 | Elsia | how do I know which icon it was if there are no args? |
| 21:25.59 | Xinhuan | you don't |
| 21:25.59 | Elsia | bah |
| 21:26.08 | [VM]Mysticfox | if only blizzard would fix their combat log that's always creeping slowly upwards =( |
| 21:26.09 | Xinhuan | it only tells you something changed |
| 21:26.14 | Xinhuan | and you update everything |
| 21:26.26 | Xinhuan | the event fires as stated, when someone joins/leaves the raid too |
| 21:26.34 | cKep | never had that happen @ [VM]Mysticfox |
| 21:26.39 | cKep | guildmates did though |
| 21:26.43 | cKep | dunno what causes it |
| 21:26.44 | [VM]Mysticfox | on the 2.4 ptr? |
| 21:26.50 | cKep | yeah |
| 21:26.54 | [VM]Mysticfox | yeah I've had it since day 1 |
| 21:26.59 | [VM]Mysticfox | if I put it on a tab behind my main chat frame it doesn't happen |
| 21:27.02 | Xinhuan | so when it fires, you pretty much have to disassociate all icons <--> GUIDs until they can be associated again |
| 21:27.10 | cKep | ah k.. I'm having it tabbed |
| 21:27.13 | [VM]Mysticfox | if I put it in it's seperate window on the bottom right on my UI it creeps upwards |
| 21:27.15 | Xinhuan | not sure if libguidregistrydoes this yet, Arrowmaster? |
| 21:27.26 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r61803 10/tags/FuBar_HealBotFu_20300.03/: FuBar_HealBotFu: - Release version 20300.03 |
| 21:27.41 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 21:27.50 | Xinhuan | elsia can just use that then |
| 21:27.57 | [VM]Mysticfox | one other thing I noticed is when you right click a chat tab and go under Filters -> Channels and try to uncheck something, it doesn't save any of your settings |
| 21:28.20 | Elsia | I have to check out GUIDRegistry in detail to see if I basically code most of what it does right now |
| 21:28.27 | [VM]Mysticfox | my combat log window displays say, yell, guild, officer, whisper, party, raid on the PTR =/ |
| 21:28.58 | Elsia | mystic: I hear the combat log isn't completely finished yet, and mine moves up too |
| 21:29.07 | Xinhuan | sounds like you copied your chat-cache.txt over to PTR [VM]Mysticfox? |
| 21:29.12 | Xinhuan | should delete that |
| 21:29.23 | [VM]Mysticfox | hmm I'll try that thanks =p |
| 21:29.42 | ckknight | OmniCC messes with PitBull's frame recycling system |
| 21:29.43 | ckknight | ...horribly |
| 21:30.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it was working without error yesterday.. and omnicc hasn't changed |
| 21:30.22 | ckknight | because I added an error today to prevent bad circumstances |
| 21:30.31 | ckknight | gotta talk to Tuller |
| 21:30.45 | Xinhuan | all omnicc does is create a cooldown frame and attaches it to something that has a <Cooldown> :o |
| 21:30.51 | ckknight | no it doesn't |
| 21:31.05 | Xinhuan | how does it mess up then? |
| 21:31.09 | ckknight | it attaches to the parent frame of the Cooldown |
| 21:31.13 | ckknight | which PitBull doesn't expect |
| 21:31.22 | Xinhuan | k, that's what i meant |
| 21:31.26 | Diao | so i should disable omnicc for now? |
| 21:31.30 | ckknight | for no |
| 21:31.31 | ckknight | now* |
| 21:31.33 | Diao | ok |
| 21:31.39 | Diao | and yeah it was reproducible |
| 21:31.44 | Diao | had to wait a bit to /rl since i was in a wsg lol |
| 21:31.46 | Elsia | does GUIDRegistry have a way to feed it GUIDs? |
| 21:31.47 | ckknight | since frames are recycled, the cooldown's parent won't be the same each time |
| 21:31.59 | Elsia | i.e. without using its combat log event thing? |
| 21:32.23 | Xinhuan | which would explain the numerous mysterious complaints about the cooldowns appearing and not appearing |
| 21:33.16 | Xinhuan | maybe you can fix it by recycling the <cooldown> frame along with the parent frame |
| 21:33.20 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 21:33.34 | nevcairiel | from what i read in OmniCC, his code is perfectly valid. It is "omni", and i dont think OmniCC needs to adjust to Pitbull, more the other way around ;) |
| 21:33.36 | Hjalte | Elsia, I'm on archimonde at the moment. We are 3 people syncing Recount, but me and one of the other syncers Damage Done is very different. I know Archimonde spreads people far out, but when we are syncing, shouldnt we at least have the same result? |
| 21:34.13 | Elsia | hjalte: can you ask people to turn on Show Unknown and maybe also Show for other mob types? |
| 21:34.16 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn FUCKING MORON WARLOCK |
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| 21:34.22 | Kivin | lua> local x = 3; local x = 9; print(x); |
| 21:34.22 | lua_bot | Kivin: 9 |
| 21:34.25 | sag_ich_nicht | "OH HAY LET'S TANK CAPERNIAN WITH BoS!" |
| 21:34.27 | Elsia | and tell me if some data shows there? |
| 21:34.30 | Xinhuan | archimonde fight only has 1 mob elsia ;p |
| 21:34.30 | sag_ich_nicht | bloody fucking moron |
| 21:34.42 | cKep | 1. stupid warlock |
| 21:34.47 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: meh, I do it from time to time its not a big deal if other classes watch their threat |
| 21:34.49 | cKep | 2. stupid dpsers if they're pulling aggro |
| 21:34.51 | sag_ich_nicht | and I get flamed for pointing it out on TS |
| 21:34.59 | Elsia | xin: not if there is a bug in the sync code ;) |
| 21:35.14 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r61804 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add in a check to not check children if OmniCC exists |
| 21:35.26 | Hjalte | Elsia, only Archimonde and No One shows up. |
| 21:35.38 | Hjalte | I have EVERYTHING shown now. |
| 21:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | kebinusan: it IS a big deal, one of "not being a fucking scrub" |
| 21:35.56 | nappy- | how does threat calculate crits? is only the damage relevant or are crits producing a % threat |
| 21:35.59 | nappy- | ? |
| 21:36.09 | Kivin | WoW is srs bzns |
| 21:36.17 | Elsia | hmm alright, can you get me screenies of the difference, possibly including how much network traffic you had from the traffic mode? |
| 21:36.21 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: fucking chill, he probably just honestly forgot, it happens. |
| 21:36.24 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: how is it the warlocks fault, tell your paladins to pay attention and give him BOL or something |
| 21:36.25 | Diao | only damage nappy- |
| 21:36.32 | cKep | nappy-: crits don't generate extra aggro |
| 21:36.40 | nappy- | ok thank u |
| 21:36.41 | sag_ich_nicht | kebinusan: we had 4 paladins. there wasn't anything else to buff to him. |
| 21:36.50 | Diao | kings light might and sanc? |
| 21:36.58 | sag_ich_nicht | why the fuck would you buff a warlock might? |
| 21:36.58 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: bullshit, pally on salv duty can slap -any other- blessing on him |
| 21:37.11 | Diao | oh a lock |
| 21:37.14 | Diao | make that wisdom |
| 21:37.17 | Diao | still 4 |
| 21:37.18 | Diao | :P |
| 21:37.25 | sag_ich_nicht | BoK BoL BoW BoS. no other buff to buff. |
| 21:37.33 | kebinusan | still I macro searing pain with /cancelaura Blessing of Salvation |
| 21:37.35 | Diao | sanctuary instead of salv |
| 21:37.37 | Elsia | BoSac :D |
| 21:37.40 | Xinhuan | or thr warlock can click it off |
| 21:37.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Diao no tank paladin. |
| 21:37.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: exactly. |
| 21:37.49 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking scrub |
| 21:37.51 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: might. |
| 21:37.53 | Diao | oh |
| 21:37.58 | sag_ich_nicht | why would you buff a warlock with might |
| 21:37.58 | Diao | rofl nhts |
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| 21:38.03 | Diao | melee lock clearly |
| 21:38.06 | Kivin | duh |
| 21:38.09 | Shirik | so he can hit harder |
| 21:38.09 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht: to overwrite salv |
| 21:38.09 | kebinusan | why would you buff the tanking lock with salv |
| 21:38.09 | Shirik | wtf kind of question is that |
| 21:38.09 | cKep | sacrifice ^.^ |
| 21:38.09 | Elsia | to remove BoS? |
| 21:38.12 | [VM]Mysticfox | thanks for the suggestion about the chat-cache =) I still can't toggle things like tells on and off through the blizzard UI in my main chat frame though |
| 21:38.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: eh, if it erases salv, whatever works. i get might all the time as a resto shammy just because it hits our enh shammy ;) |
| 21:38.23 | Kivin | why wouldn't you buff a warlock with might |
| 21:38.27 | Diao | yeah |
| 21:38.27 | Shirik | exactly |
| 21:38.29 | Kivin | pref might AND kings |
| 21:38.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: uhm, no. fucking retard should just click away the BoS. |
| 21:38.32 | [VM]Mysticfox | I uncheck tells and then go back and it's checked again =p |
| 21:38.37 | Diao | hybrid classes always get funny group buffs from paladins |
| 21:38.39 | Xinhuan | [VM]Mysticfox, they said the chat stuff and combat log is a work in progress, so it'll be updated soon |
| 21:38.43 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: you play a paladin? |
| 21:38.45 | sb | uhm sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:38.46 | Hjalte | Elsia, just had another try, someones pet ruled the damage meter. |
| 21:38.49 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: and chill, seriously. probably just an honest mistake. get over it and move the fuck on |
| 21:38.53 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht: i can say the same thing about you, overwriting his BoS buff is also 1 click away |
| 21:38.54 | sb | warlock might affects pet iirc |
| 21:39.02 | Hjalte | sb, no it doesnt. |
| 21:39.05 | sb | +str does |
| 21:39.06 | Xinhuan | for whoeever is buffing salv that is |
| 21:39.07 | [VM]Mysticfox | yeah, I don't mind it too much for now I can always edit the file if I need to turn something off |
| 21:39.08 | Diao | pets are classified under warriors |
| 21:39.11 | Diao | for some reason |
| 21:39.21 | Elsia | hjalte: hmm damage may be wrongly attributed, can you go to that pet's detail window and see what abilities show there? |
| 21:39.25 | [VM]Mysticfox | was getting spammed with tells for a bit last night though =) |
| 21:39.25 | sb | well no, felguard gehts ap from lock +str |
| 21:39.33 | Diao | well hunter pets are anyway, not sure about lock pets |
| 21:39.43 | bigzero | Elsia, maybe pets just got buffed a lot in 2.4 /shrug |
| 21:39.49 | kebinusan | pets get the same greater blessigns as their owner tho right? |
| 21:40.05 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: no, pets are classed with a specific "class" |
| 21:40.10 | kebinusan | ah, k |
| 21:40.12 | NightHawkTheSane | as Diao noted, hunter pets are "warriors" |
| 21:40.14 | cKep | pets get the same greate blessing as warriors @ kebinusan |
| 21:40.16 | kebinusan | I dont raid demo so never payed attention |
| 21:40.25 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: so do you play a paladin? |
| 21:40.26 | Hjalte | Elsia: Umm, when the fight ended, it dissappeared from the damage meter and now I only see the "right" pet, which says petname <playername> |
| 21:40.28 | NightHawkTheSane | warlock pets are different, maybe paladins, but i forgot |
| 21:41.22 | cKep | sweet irony if warlock demons were considered paladins ^.^ |
| 21:41.32 | Kivin | Some of them are |
| 21:41.41 | Elsia | hjalte: Pet attribution code isn't perfect yet... I'm still working on getting raid wide pet GUIDs |
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| 21:42.00 | Elsia | but is all the other data at least sensible? |
| 21:42.09 | Elsia | i.e. people roughly in the range where they should be? |
| 21:42.22 | Elsia | and still no pet should do loads of damage unless it's non-unique or it's still a bug |
| 21:42.54 | Hjalte | Elsia: The meters seem about right, just some minor differences between mine and the other guys synced data |
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| 21:43.08 | Hjalte | Elsia: 3T = Recount, right? |
| 21:43.27 | Diao | that's right Hjalte |
| 21:43.27 | Elsia | hjalte: not sure but think so |
| 21:43.35 | Hjalte | That's very weird... |
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| 21:45.22 | CIA-12 | 03evenue * r61805 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
| 21:45.22 | CIA-12 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 21:45.22 | CIA-12 | - See Official Thread for update details |
| 21:46.03 | Parnic | how do i make my sliders in waterfall respond to mouse wheel? |
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| 21:47.52 | Arrowmaster | i dont think its 3T for recount, perty sure theres another character there thats not printable |
| 21:48.25 | nevcairiel | yeah it should always be 3 chars |
| 21:48.46 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r61806 10DaPortrait/modules/Animations.lua: |
| 21:48.46 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 21:48.46 | CIA-12 | - Fixed Player Rezzed Animation |
| 21:48.50 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:40] <kebinusan> sag_ich_nicht: so do you play a paladin? <--yes i do. in fact, i was the paladin buffing salv :P |
| 21:48.53 | [VM]Mysticfox | whoa, what could be causing a black target unit frame in pitbull r61789 -> http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08070/wowscrnshot_021708_164349959.jpg |
| 21:49.02 | Diao | update [VM]Mysticfox |
| 21:49.10 | [VM]Mysticfox | ok |
| 21:49.11 | Xinhuan | [2/18 05:38:37] <Xinhuan> sag_ich_nicht: i can say the same thing about you, overwriting his BoS buff is also 1 click away ;p |
| 21:49.15 | Diao | omnicc with that revision broke it |
| 21:49.19 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:38] <Xinhuan> sag_ich_nicht: i can say the same thing about you, overwriting his BoS buff is also 1 click away <--except NO, because i'm out of range and if i run INTO range |
| 21:49.19 | Diao | :) |
| 21:49.20 | [VM]Mysticfox | ah =) |
| 21:49.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i die |
| 21:49.43 | Xinhuan | you should have removed his salv before yu even started the fight |
| 21:49.43 | [VM]Mysticfox | does bartender 4 have omnicc built in? |
| 21:49.49 | [VM]Mysticfox | or something similar |
| 21:49.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:49.54 | cKep | I dont see the problem with salvation on said warlock @ sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:49.57 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 21:50.06 | cKep | stupid dpsers if they pull aggro, thats all ^.^ |
| 21:50.12 | [VM]Mysticfox | oh well, i still need it for my arkinventory i guess |
| 21:50.18 | Xinhuan | does your raid kill capernian first? my guild kills him last all the time |
| 21:50.20 | Xinhuan | and salv is irrelevant |
| 21:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: this is about phase 1 not phase 4 :) |
| 21:50.35 | sag_ich_nicht | *3 |
| 21:50.37 | Xinhuan | doh |
| 21:50.39 | cKep | even in phase 1 |
| 21:50.48 | cKep | there is this little bar thingie called omen |
| 21:50.50 | sag_ich_nicht | normally we get him easily to 4 |
| 21:50.58 | sag_ich_nicht | cKep: which doesn't help with retard dps. |
| 21:50.59 | Xinhuan | we simply don't allow anyone to dps, until the tanking lock has 10k threat (on omen) |
| 21:51.06 | Xinhuan | then you can go nuts |
| 21:51.07 | cKep | yeah, retard dps.. thats the point ;) |
| 21:51.28 | [VM]Mysticfox | There we go.. pitbull 61804, I just have to add hal's modifications to the aura file now |
| 21:52.06 | Elsia | why is GUIDRegistryLib using COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_FRIENDLY in ME and MY_PET? |
| 21:53.05 | cKep | http://wdnaddons.com/0407923/AddOns/Blizzard_CombatLog/Blizzard_CombatLog.lua |
| 21:53.12 | cKep | maybe because blizzard does :) |
| 21:53.16 | Hjalte | Elsia: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_021708_224343.jpg - Okay, look at that. The two first have 3T as their main data - But one of them is not using Recount. I'm Lovesick. |
| 21:53.35 | Elsia | hjalte: checking, thanks |
| 21:53.44 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: yeah blizzard does |
| 21:53.48 | Elsia | cKep: so pets can never be MCd? |
| 21:53.57 | cKep | not afaik |
| 21:54.01 | Elsia | for example shadow lab? |
| 21:54.04 | cKep | enslave demon doesnt work in pvp |
| 21:54.06 | Elsia | pet attacks me or does it now? |
| 21:54.08 | Elsia | not* |
| 21:54.13 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: just figures you'd blame the warlock for not clicking off the buff rather than the paladin for buffing it :-) |
| 21:54.17 | Arrowmaster | enslave demon used to, did they change it? |
| 21:54.41 | Elsia | in my current working recount code I use the same bor but without the friendly for that reason |
| 21:54.44 | cKep | don't know how pet reaction is altered if the master is MCed |
| 21:55.09 | Arrowmaster | ill probably change that in libGUIDregistry |
| 21:55.12 | cKep | someone could check in nagrand arena though |
| 21:55.37 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r61807 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua options.lua): |
| 21:55.37 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 21:55.37 | CIA-12 | - add option to "single track" spells |
| 21:55.42 | Elsia | hjalte: so you and the top two were syncing? |
| 21:56.33 | Hjalte | Elsia: Me, Luthorhuss and Firehand are syncing. Kaleth doesn't have Recount, I think. |
| 21:56.52 | Elsia | did you all have the most recent recount? |
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| 21:57.12 | Elsia | I changed the sync code and it won't properly accept sync from the older protocol, it just ignores them |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-12 | 03parnic * r61808 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc embeds.xml modules/TargetHealth.lua): |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-12 | IceHUD: |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-12 | ICE-7 |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-12 | - added LibMobHealth-4.0 to externals/embeds so people without other ace mods get estimated health values properly |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-12 | - added an option to allow shortening health values or not (1100 => 1.1k) for non-dogtag people |
| 21:57.49 | Fin | nogtag people |
| 21:57.52 | Hjalte | Elsia, look in the chat on the screenshot. I am using v. 61590. |
| 21:57.57 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:54] <kebinusan> sag_ich_nicht: just figures you'd blame the warlock for not clicking off the buff rather than the paladin for buffing it :-) <--I blame the person who it costs no mana. |
| 21:58.12 | sag_ich_nicht | which means more raid dps if you factor it in. it might be just 0.00000000001%, but it's there. |
| 21:58.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:58.15 | Elsia | hjalte: yeah but you won't receive all syncs if someone uses an earlier version |
| 21:58.46 | Hjalte | Elsia: Kaleth is telling me he HAS recount on, but not showing. His version is probably old. |
| 21:58.54 | Elsia | actually firehand's reocunt is out of date |
| 21:59.08 | Elsia | can see it in the screenie |
| 21:59.24 | Hjalte | Elsia: Yeah. But it's a problem getting people to update all the time :\ |
| 21:59.26 | Fin | you blame the person to whom it costs no mana for a decrease in mana? |
| 21:59.29 | Elsia | that certainly would explain discrepancies especially if yours is lower than the others, because you simply don't accept their syncs |
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| 21:59.47 | Elsia | if yours is higher it's another bug altogether |
| 21:59.57 | Arrowmaster | so whos idea was it to make a libbabble-boss using english names as keys? |
| 22:00.16 | cKep | Fin: since when does clicking off BoSalv decrease mana? |
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| 22:00.35 | Hjalte | Elsia: Me and Luthorhuss are using the same version, but our data was not the same. |
| 22:00.49 | baer_ | help! my pitbull show only shaded/empty frames. |
| 22:00.51 | Elsia | can you give me the difference you got over the fight? |
| 22:00.56 | cKep | baer_: update. |
| 22:01.15 | Fin | "I blame the person who it costs no manner, which means more raid dps if you factor it in" - aha! it's Salvation you're talking about, now it makes sense |
| 22:01.15 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: it is kinda necessary for config menu displays |
| 22:01.20 | baer_ | cKep: updated a minute ago. |
| 22:01.32 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: how? |
| 22:01.38 | Xinhuan | i don't think source code that says "Turn on this option for L[0x239481234234]" looks very clean? |
| 22:01.44 | cKep | baer_: flame ckknight then ^.^ |
| 22:02.03 | Ellipsis | baer_: enable your pitbull modules |
| 22:02.07 | Ellipsis | also check your bugsack |
| 22:02.09 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: thats a lame excuse, thats what comments are for |
| 22:02.17 | Xinhuan | shrug |
| 22:02.26 | Xinhuan | in any case, localizations are still necessary |
| 22:02.31 | Arrowmaster | lots of people agreed mobid keys would be much much better |
| 22:02.52 | baer_ | ok. |
| 22:03.10 | baer_ | works now in 61804. |
| 22:03.28 | Cryect | Xinhuan: Pfft obsfucation is very clean! |
| 22:03.38 | *** part/#wowace Kjellviz (n=kjell@c213-89-163-77.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:04.15 | Elsia | mobid would be very useful for anybody who derives the mob from the combat log... only nonlocalized way of dealing with mob detection really |
| 22:04.16 | Hjalte | Elsia: How'd you like that? A screenshot from me and my friend showing a fight? |
| 22:04.20 | Cryect | Its not spaghetti code its obsfucation! ^_^ |
| 22:04.31 | Elsia | hjalte: would ve awesome |
| 22:04.44 | [SW]Dodge | is there a function like the /dump command to use from code? |
| 22:04.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i hate you |
| 22:04.51 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:05.00 | ckknight | that's not nice |
| 22:05.03 | Arrowmaster | creating libbabble-boss-3.0 |
| 22:05.09 | Kivin | Anyone know off hand what the opposite to SecureStateHeader:SetAttribute("addchild", child) is? |
| 22:05.10 | cKep | [SW]Dodge: PrintLiteral, aceconsole thingie I think |
| 22:05.12 | Arrowmaster | and using english names as keys |
| 22:05.19 | Xinhuan | you mean translators will hate you if you change the keys to mob-IDs :D |
| 22:05.20 | Cryect | hey obsfucated code still has to run! |
| 22:05.27 | [SW]Dodge | cKep: i'll look for it ty |
| 22:05.27 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: k... |
| 22:05.33 | Ellipsis | translators will go nuts |
| 22:05.53 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: seeing as that's how Babble's always done it... |
| 22:06.36 | Arrowmaster | many people were saying that a future babble-boss would be better with mobids as keys and it would be much more useful in 2.4 |
| 22:07.25 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: one issue with that |
| 22:07.35 | CIA-12 | 03archarodim * r61809 10Decursive/ (14 files): |
| 22:07.35 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
| 22:07.35 | CIA-12 | - It is now possible to add afflictions to the filters from a list of recently seen afflictions instead of typing their names. (2 new locals added requiring translation) |
| 22:07.35 | CIA-12 | - Debuff(s) replaced by Affliction(s) in localization.lua |
| 22:07.54 | ckknight | you still can't get their mobID without combat |
| 22:07.59 | Elsia | you can |
| 22:08.01 | thul | anyone built a hackingtosh |
| 22:08.02 | ckknight | oh? |
| 22:08.06 | ckknight | Elsia: how? |
| 22:08.14 | Elsia | sec, finding link... |
| 22:08.22 | Elsia | there is a file listing all bossids |
| 22:08.22 | Pkekyo| | hai thul |
| 22:08.26 | thul | hai Pkekyo|! |
| 22:08.30 | CIA-12 | 03whyv * r61810 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames:fixed statusbar for some locales |
| 22:08.32 | thul | http://lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/build-a-hackintosh-mac-for-under-800-321913.php |
| 22:08.32 | Xinhuan | mobIDs are a constant, so once you know that Illidan is "0x9238742934" that number never changes |
| 22:08.37 | Pkekyo| | got zeh rifle now...you were right, light and plasticy :> purty though |
| 22:08.40 | ckknight | no, that's not what I mean, Elsia |
| 22:08.46 | cKep | yeah, boss IDs... but thats just <localized name> <-> ID either |
| 22:08.48 | thul | Pkekyo|: hehe, goodie |
| 22:08.48 | ckknight | Elsia: I mean ingame |
| 22:09.06 | Elsia | i see |
| 22:09.16 | thul | hmm |
| 22:09.17 | Pkekyo| | been picking it apart and putting it back together for three hours or so now |
| 22:09.18 | Elsia | say you have a target, how do you get the boss name |
| 22:09.19 | cKep | http://www.wowarmory.com/data/dungeonStrings.xml (boss IDs) |
| 22:09.24 | Elsia | but isn't that boss target name localized? |
| 22:09.34 | Elsia | why else do you need ingame name->GUID? |
| 22:09.37 | ckknight | I want UnitGUID :-( |
| 22:09.42 | Elsia | any name you get is localized |
| 22:09.56 | [VM]Mysticfox | Notepad++, Notepad 2 or UltraEdit for editing lua, or should I just go with personal preference? |
| 22:10.00 | Ellipsis | for things like bigwigs that needs to know which boss you're up against *before* you're in combat, you'd have to use a name->bossid lookup |
| 22:10.01 | ckknight | yea, I suppose you're right about that |
| 22:10.15 | Xinhuan | i think only 2 addons use babble-boss-3.0 at the moment, isn't too difficult to switch the format now |
| 22:10.29 | ckknight | yea, it'd be doable |
| 22:10.36 | Ellipsis | threat apparently does >:( |
| 22:10.39 | Arrowmaster | more than 2 think |
| 22:10.42 | Xinhuan | or, do a 4.0 |
| 22:10.44 | Arrowmaster | i got a bunch of errors logging in |
| 22:10.46 | Ellipsis | that makes a crapload of addons |
| 22:10.48 | Elsia | it's tricky really because in reality we want GUID->name and name->GUID |
| 22:11.01 | Chompers | how do you guys deal with the mind controlled people during the kael fight? |
| 22:11.07 | Chompers | we're having real trouble with them |
| 22:11.08 | NightHawkTheSane | hit them with daggers |
| 22:11.13 | cKep | we kill them |
| 22:11.14 | cKep | ^.^ |
| 22:11.19 | sb | kaelthas v2 or v1? :p |
| 22:11.22 | Elsia | chompers: shiv |
| 22:11.27 | Xinhuan | GUID<->name is Many-1 mapping, which sucks |
| 22:11.43 | cKep | serious though: prot warriors and hunters harmstring / wing clip them with the dagger |
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| 22:11.46 | Elsia | chompres: actually shiv and /stopcasting macro so you don't kill them, rogues are full-time MC duty |
| 22:11.51 | Elsia | more top priority at least |
| 22:11.58 | Elsia | xin: not for bosses |
| 22:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | 02/17/08 23:11:44> [Arkanitlager]: Level 41 Dwarf Paladin <TwoGirlsOneCup> - Ironforge |
| 22:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | 02/17/08 23:11:44> 1 player total |
| 22:12.02 | Pkekyo| | gruul at 7%, first attempt :) |
| 22:12.05 | mattswell | ugh |
| 22:12.07 | Chompers | okay, only got one rogue tonight |
| 22:12.08 | Xinhuan | Elsia, even for bosses. |
| 22:12.10 | mattswell | all of my sorting methods are broke |
| 22:12.10 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: no its not since you can get the mobid from the guid and mobid<->name is 1-1 |
| 22:12.14 | Chompers | one spare warrior also |
| 22:12.14 | Xinhuan | some bosses clone copies of themselves |
| 22:12.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Elsia: we put prot warriors on it, shiv does a lot of damage to a clothie, plus we typically only run with 1-2 rogues >< |
| 22:12.20 | Xinhuan | Skeram, Skyriss, etc |
| 22:12.22 | mattswell | any mods have sorting methods I can look at? |
| 22:12.34 | Elsia | xin: ah hmm |
| 22:12.49 | Xinhuan | im sure you have done at least those 2 bosses before |
| 22:13.00 | Killmore | <Chompers> how do you guys deal with the mind controlled people during the kael fight? <-- all our dps down them quick |
| 22:13.02 | Xinhuan | arcatraz final boss and aq40 first boss |
| 22:13.13 | Arrowmaster | oh wtf |
| 22:13.20 | Elsia | night: true, whatever works.. we farm illidan with shiving rogues though, but we tend to have a few... and enhance shammies maybe, and bored tanks |
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| 22:13.29 | Arrowmaster | it was vhaarr that did the commit not ckk |
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| 22:13.37 | Arrowmaster | people need to update tocs damnit |
| 22:13.42 | Xinhuan | rolls eyes |
| 22:13.43 | Chompers | who takes kaels fireballs then? |
| 22:13.58 | jtwilley | Anyone here familiar with ClosetGnome's zone functionality? |
| 22:13.58 | cKep | fireballs dont kill a tank |
| 22:13.59 | Elsia | chompers: main tank? |
| 22:14.02 | cKep | pyroblast kills ;) |
| 22:14.23 | cKep | resto shaman can easily earth shock the fireballs too |
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| 22:15.20 | Elsia | just have a tank with enough HP, stacking HP is the main clue to kael tanking phase 4 |
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| 22:16.09 | Chompers | fair enough |
| 22:16.15 | jtwilley | I'm trying to get ClosetGnome's zone functionality to put on my PvP gear when I'm in a battleground. It doesn't seem to recognize EotS or AB as a zone though. |
| 22:16.22 | Hjalte | Elsia: My friend is taking a while getting back on. I hope he hasn't deleted his data though. |
| 22:16.29 | cKep | 22k health tank trivializes the pyroblasts |
| 22:16.32 | mattswell | jtwilley: try outfitter :D |
| 22:16.38 | jtwilley | I just got rid of outfitter. :-) |
| 22:16.39 | Elsia | hjalte: thanks for doing all this, much appreciated |
| 22:16.49 | jtwilley | But it did do that well. |
| 22:17.19 | Hjalte | Elsia: np, I just want Recount to get even better :) |
| 22:18.12 | Elsia | arrow: are there plans to have GUIDRegistrylib broadcast newly discovered petguids? |
| 22:18.26 | Chompers | recounts new sync data is much better |
| 22:18.30 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: maybe |
| 22:18.33 | Chompers | 1. Windulak 197518 (21%) old guy |
| 22:18.43 | Chompers | 4. Sorken 78871 (8.4%) new vers |
| 22:18.45 | mattswell | jtwilley: not familiar with closetgnome, i used itemrack forever and then switched to outfitter |
| 22:18.48 | Chompers | same fight though |
| 22:19.00 | Elsia | arrow: if not I'll add it separately to recount if sync is on probably |
| 22:19.14 | Nerox | I wish I could figure out why with ClosetGnome when I edit a set sometimes it make a completely different set. For example: I have set gear A with the name Battle and edit it when I get a new piece of equipment. When I edit it, it saves it as Battl and won't let me input the A. Causes me to delete every set and re-do them all. |
| 22:19.24 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: im hesitent to do it because of mindcontrol |
| 22:19.32 | Elsia | chompers: recount only sends spellIDs now instead of full spell names... less data to send |
| 22:19.39 | Chompers | nice |
| 22:19.52 | Xinhuan | Nerox: huh |
| 22:20.14 | Xinhuan | if you have a set called "Battle" |
| 22:20.18 | jtwilley | I did that when I typed wrong once. |
| 22:20.26 | Xinhuan | to update it, you just add a new set called "Battle", and it will overwrite (update) |
| 22:20.45 | Elsia | arrow: you mean mind-controlled NPCs? |
| 22:20.53 | Fin | I've always shift-clicked the set name |
| 22:20.59 | Nerox | That's what I was doing |
| 22:21.12 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: would like to sync pet guids when priests use mindcontrol and such but in that case would want to sync again or make sure other addons properly check bitflags so its not considered a pet after it isnt |
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| 22:21.17 | Fin | an edit box appears with the set name in it |
| 22:21.28 | Fin | does the edit box appear with a different name in it? |
| 22:21.43 | Nerox | Yep, like if I have a battle set stance named battle |
| 22:21.50 | Nerox | and I get a new weapon it'll auto-rename it Battl |
| 22:21.52 | jtwilley | Another nice thing to have in CG that I've seen in other similar addons is hiding outfits you don't have with you, and marking ones that are in the bank differently when you're at teh bank. |
| 22:21.53 | Fin | uhm |
| 22:22.04 | Fin | are you sure that "Battle" isn't reserved for the stance module somehow? |
| 22:22.04 | Xinhuan | battle isn't Battle |
| 22:22.09 | Fin | I know that "mount" is for the mount module |
| 22:22.16 | Xinhuan | also, certain set names are "reserved" |
| 22:22.22 | Elsia | arrow: do MCs show up as _PET actually? gotta test that |
| 22:22.25 | Xinhuan | like "mount" and "default" |
| 22:22.31 | Elsia | or do they just switch controls? |
| 22:22.33 | Fin | it would make sense if it were specifically for stances |
| 22:22.44 | Nerox | could be that, should I just rename the set I use for battle and the set I use for defensive something else? |
| 22:22.45 | Xinhuan | "battle" could be one of those reserved set names you aren't supposed to use |
| 22:22.57 | Nerox | now that you bring that up, could be. |
| 22:23.00 | Xinhuan | yes, use any name except something generic |
| 22:23.40 | cKep | use SexyGear |
| 22:23.44 | cKep | SexyGear is always good |
| 22:23.48 | Nerox | lol |
| 22:23.55 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: i dont know, i havent done any testing on ptr |
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| 22:24.16 | Elsia | arrow: I'll try to figure it out, btw shaman totems are _GUARDIAN and else behave like pets in the log |
| 22:24.22 | thul | http://prisguide.hardware.no/vis_handlevogn.php?waggon_id=66565 <- thinking about building that machine |
| 22:24.25 | thul | (hackintoshing it) |
| 22:24.27 | Elsia | recount already treats shaman totems like pets and can merge them properly for self |
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| 22:25.30 | Elsia | that reminds me GUIDREgistry could probably use a my_guardian detection, similar to my_pet for totems and non-controlled summoned pets |
| 22:25.38 | Pkekyo| | GRUUL DOWN DAMNIT :D |
| 22:25.41 | Elsia | grats |
| 22:25.52 | Pkekyo| | with only one healer left :p |
| 22:26.09 | cKep | "damnit" for a second-or-third-try-kill, guess you're not the patient guy? |
| 22:26.10 | Estil | grats! |
| 22:26.11 | Hjalte | Elsia: You want mobs shown in the screenshots? Me and my friend both only get Archimonde and No One extra in one of the fights where we are different. |
| 22:26.38 | Elsia | hjalte: sure, let me see archimonde too ;) |
| 22:28.02 | Pkekyo| | cKep: 2nd try, third kill |
| 22:28.10 | Firelemming | 23:24:11 Your Frostbolt crits you for 6904 Frost damage. |
| 22:28.12 | Firelemming | 23:24:11 Your Frostbolt hits you for 3174 Frost damage. |
| 22:28.16 | Firelemming | stupid reflect |
| 22:28.24 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: agreed about the guardians but its a bit harder since you can have more than 1 |
| 22:28.38 | cKep | nerf PoM |
| 22:28.42 | Firelemming | lawl |
| 22:28.51 | Elsia | arrow: yeah you need to keep a table for them |
| 22:30.01 | Estil | lol |
| 22:30.09 | Arrowmaster | is mindcontrol helm pet? |
| 22:30.55 | Elsia | gotta try test.. don't have the helm though |
| 22:31.13 | Elsia | it's MC, so question still is if MC itself is making it an actual pet |
| 22:31.24 | cKep | http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag |
| 22:31.27 | cKep | last line imho |
| 22:32.13 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: only concern is if theres any way to have a guardian that stops being your guardian |
| 22:32.28 | Elsia | cKep: thanks, so basically one can detect MC from flags |
| 22:32.57 | cKep | Arrowmaster: enslave demon comes to mind |
| 22:33.04 | cKep | oh well |
| 22:33.04 | Arrowmaster | pet |
| 22:33.05 | cKep | no |
| 22:33.06 | cKep | yeah |
| 22:33.07 | Elsia | enslave is pet |
| 22:33.09 | cKep | silly me |
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| 22:33.35 | Elsia | can't think of a case where guardians can be subverted. they can't be MC'd or let loose as far as I know |
| 22:34.10 | Elsia | but even then, once they are no longer guardian they combat log won't carry _GUARDIAN so you can disambiguate even if the GUID is the same |
| 22:34.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah but thats extra processing |
| 22:34.26 | Elsia | i.e. you know when the GUID no longer is a guardian |
| 22:34.39 | Arrowmaster | its doable |
| 22:34.44 | Elsia | I'm currently writing exactly that kind of code for recount basically :P |
| 22:34.46 | Arrowmaster | ill try working on it after raid |
| 22:34.51 | Elsia | :D |
| 22:35.01 | Elsia | maybe I can ditch all my code for GUIDREgistry :D |
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| 22:35.25 | Hjalte | Elsia: Pictures coming up. Two folders, pictures from me and my friend of the same fight. |
| 22:35.26 | Cryect | Any chance GUIDRegistry can at least store the name of GUID's for those it has no UnitID for? |
| 22:35.34 | Elsia | hjalte: awesome |
| 22:35.49 | Hjalte | Elsia: http:/www.hjalte.com/SyncingFromLovesick.zip |
| 22:36.02 | Killmore | is Archarodim here ? |
| 22:36.12 | Hjalte | Elsia: and http://wowwebstats.com/eff5uvw4eppm3?s=7912-8047 which is my (lovesick)'s log and Firehands. |
| 22:36.39 | Hjalte | Elsia: Oh wait. Wrong WWS I think |
| 22:36.55 | CIA-12 | 03morgalm * r61811 10MorgDKP/MorgDKP.lua: |
| 22:36.55 | CIA-12 | MorgDKP: |
| 22:36.55 | CIA-12 | - Added Kael'thas legendary weapons to ignore list so the client will not crash (thx Psylink) |
| 22:37.06 | Elsia | there is some damage attributed to No One. That's a very good clue already. |
| 22:37.18 | Hjalte | Elsia: http://wowwebstats.com/eff5uvw4eppm3?s=7412-7503 THIS one is right. |
| 22:37.30 | Elsia | got it, let me check it out now |
| 22:37.37 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: why? |
| 22:37.48 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: what did I do this time? :P |
| 22:38.00 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: you made me a sad panda |
| 22:38.07 | vhaarr | explain! |
| 22:38.11 | Hjalte | Elsia: No One is Doomfire, sorry :) |
| 22:38.31 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: by making libbabble-boss-3.0 with english name keys instead of mobids! |
| 22:38.59 | Cryect | Arrowmaster: Because its annoying that the idea of GUID Registry is to store info about GUID's then choose not to store names unless you can find other info about the GUID meaning I have to store names which means GUIDRegistry function for GetName is worthless |
| 22:39.01 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: that is useless and you know it |
| 22:39.27 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: is not! |
| 22:39.44 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: k ill add it |
| 22:40.17 | CIA-12 | 03whyv * r61812 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-zhTW.lua: RatingBuster: fixed zhTW cant display block vale |
| 22:40.19 | Cryect | Thanks ^_^ |
| 22:40.46 | iNs|Renew | playing again cryect? |
| 22:41.07 | Cryect | kinda, in the I powerlevel some people sense of playing :-p |
| 22:41.12 | Elsia | hjalte: basically if I see it correctly they are identical except that 3k damage of yours didn't make it over and 2k damage of archimonde is different |
| 22:41.25 | Cryect | working on Recount 2 like I wanted to when 2.4 hit PTR |
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| 22:42.20 | iNs|Renew | right on |
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| 22:43.13 | Hjalte | Elsia: Yup, but both me and my friend are using the same version of Recount. |
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| 22:44.17 | CIA-12 | 03mok * r61813 10xchar/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:44.17 | CIA-12 | xchar: |
| 22:44.17 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.29 | Firelemming | wots xchar? |
| 22:44.36 | Elsia | cryect: any word if it's possible to lose some data syncing? |
| 22:45.10 | Stanzilla | Firelemming: www.xchar.de |
| 22:45.11 | Cryect | Elsia: 2.4 didn't really change anything involving what needs to be synced or not for recount |
| 22:45.30 | Elsia | hence I'm asking ;) |
| 22:45.31 | Cryect | Elsia: could look at the changes I implemented the other day in live and implement those for 2.4 but that just reduces sync traffic nothing else |
| 22:45.33 | Kivin | what's the gold cap? |
| 22:45.42 | Stanzilla | 214k |
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| 22:46.00 | Elsia | no I'm mostly worried about if the sync diff code can in some circumstances not do a perfect sync |
| 22:46.08 | Elsia | old or new code, no difference |
| 22:46.28 | Arrowmaster | lua> (2^31-1)/10000 |
| 22:46.28 | Elsia | in this case we look at basically 1 shadow bolt crit difference |
| 22:46.29 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 214748.3647 |
| 22:46.41 | Cryect | Oh... well... there is an issue in the sync code I never tracked down that resulted in wrong stuff |
| 22:46.51 | Cryect | It showed up mostly in Friendly Damage |
| 22:46.59 | Cryect | so I disabled that Friendly Damage syncing |
| 22:47.03 | Elsia | hmm not the case here though |
| 22:47.15 | Cryect | But those bugs were bad |
| 22:47.22 | Cryect | it was like obviously wrong stuff |
| 22:47.29 | Elsia | hjalte: any explanation why kaleth only shows up in one recount? |
| 22:47.34 | Cryect | not off by 2k |
| 22:47.51 | Firelemming | that link gives me a empty window Stanzilla |
| 22:47.53 | Cryect | Filtering IN group? and the player left hte group? |
| 22:48.33 | Elsia | well the combat logs are almost identical, archimond's damage doesn't get sync'd so that's fine |
| 22:48.40 | Stanzilla | Firelemming: works for me.. |
| 22:48.40 | Hjalte | Elsia: Kaleth is a healer. It seems my Recount didnt see him do any damage, but Luthorhuss's did. |
| 22:48.54 | Elsia | hjalte: possible as he didn't sync |
| 22:49.05 | Elsia | weird though because you saw everybody else identically |
| 22:49.13 | Hjalte | Elsia: But Luthorhuss did sync, shouldnt his Recount have sent Kaleths damage to me then? |
| 22:49.23 | Cryect | I'm wondering how buggy the new combat log stuff we are getting is since I know the data being displayed by the combat log was often wrong |
| 22:49.24 | Chompers | something goes wrong every phase, stupid kael |
| 22:49.29 | Elsia | hjalte: no, people only send their own damage |
| 22:49.33 | Cryect | in that it was showing wrong people etc doing stuff |
| 22:49.39 | Chompers | i just want to get into hyjal :/ |
| 22:49.49 | Elsia | creyct: it could be buggy... I reported a few already, but none damage related yet |
| 22:49.59 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r61814 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: add possible engage trigger |
| 22:50.00 | Elsia | for example it doesn't show damage from life-tap |
| 22:50.08 | Elsia | well that's damage related but anywho |
| 22:50.21 | Hjalte | Elsia: How are you explaining that my damage is lower on Luthorhuss' Recount then, if I am syncing my own damage to him? |
| 22:50.37 | CIA-12 | 03endeavour * r61815 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: huge performance & memory tweak, some new yells |
| 22:50.41 | Cryect | Hjalte: I think I can explain that maybe |
| 22:50.42 | aestil | chompers hyjal pretty much sucks as an instance. |
| 22:50.43 | Firelemming | wierd, stanzilla, IE or FF? |
| 22:50.49 | Cryect | was that the first fight you did after a recount reset for him? |
| 22:50.50 | Elsia | hjalte: easy to explain, something imperfect in recounts syncing, but cryect knows more about that than me I fear |
| 22:50.54 | aestil | Chompers: feels about as 'epic' as stratholme does. |
| 22:50.58 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r61816 10MobileVault/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MobileVault: Some minor tinkering with the fubar stuff to allow profiles for the main options again |
| 22:51.06 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r61817 10LibRockConsole-1.0/LibRockConsole-1.0.lua: LibRockConsole-1.0 - when doing :PrintLiteral on a table of frames, sort by name. |
| 22:51.08 | Chompers | guilds on my server clear it in about 2 hours |
| 22:51.12 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61818 10Threat-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Threat-2.0: Dispatch changes |
| 22:51.16 | Chompers | that's pretty awesome |
| 22:51.16 | Cryect | The first time you reset recount it ignores the first sync message because it needs 2 sync msgs to perform diffs |
| 22:51.17 | aestil | Chompers: yes. that sounds right. |
| 22:51.18 | Firelemming | not working in IE either :P |
| 22:51.26 | Chompers | the gear looks great |
| 22:51.27 | Cryect | so any damage done before that first sync is missed |
| 22:51.34 | aestil | gear is great. instance sucks. |
| 22:51.36 | Cryect | Before the second sync msg that is |
| 22:51.41 | CIA-12 | 03endeavour * r61819 10BossTalk/BossTalk.toc: BossTalk: -toc update |
| 22:51.54 | Elsia | so basically if the first damage was a shadow bolt crit that'd explain that difference |
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| 22:52.23 | Cryect | Thats just an issue dealing with how you have to implement syncing for allowing everyone to choose to reset their data themselves |
| 22:52.39 | kudakeru | Anyone around that's familiar with BigBrother and SCT? |
| 22:52.46 | Cryect | The problem might be increased with the new sync code changes in fact |
| 22:52.59 | Cryect | since sync msgs will be further apart now |
| 22:52.59 | Hjalte | Cryect and Elsia, neither me nor Luthorhuss reset our data during the night. Is "reset" also when a fight ends / starts? |
| 22:53.00 | Elsia | he wasn't running that code yet though |
| 22:53.08 | Cryect | right |
| 22:53.15 | Cryect | Oh then not sure |
| 22:53.20 | Cryect | Hmmm |
| 22:53.28 | Elsia | hjalte: no, nothing reset |
| 22:53.51 | Cryect | No idea then |
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| 22:54.48 | Hjalte | Cryect: Do you know if 3T is Recount? (I know there is a hidden letter, but I can't see it) |
| 22:55.00 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r61820 10Omen/ (15 files in 4 dirs): Omen: Moved to modular system; SingleTarget implemented. Externals included. |
| 22:55.07 | Cryect | no 3T is not recount |
| 22:55.15 | Cryect | I have no idea what the hell that addon is |
| 22:55.19 | Cryect | I've been wondering |
| 22:55.22 | Chompers | ;) |
| 22:55.24 | Cryect | and its a 3 with a strike |
| 22:55.33 | Cryect | Chompers you know what it is? |
| 22:55.41 | Chompers | no idea |
| 22:55.49 | Chompers | perhaps its that spammy evil threat-1.0 |
| 22:56.00 | Cryect | no thats THR |
| 22:56.01 | Antiarc | Thr is Threat |
| 22:56.01 | Hjalte | Cryect: It must be Recount. |
| 22:56.11 | Cryect | Recount is Recount |
| 22:56.13 | Chompers | recount! no |
| 22:56.22 | Killmore | Antiarc! |
| 22:56.27 | Bruners | what is it with people in wierd guilds and retard specs |
| 22:56.36 | Hjalte | Cryect: Neither me nor any of the others have a "Recount" in our details view. |
| 22:56.38 | Cryect | You will see a Recount entry in the network stats if you happen to be using Recount sycncing |
| 22:56.40 | Elsia | hjalte: i'm actually very grateful for this, because the WWS vs recount is the first confirmation that for an individual player what recount gets and what the combat log WWS parse shows is identical, which basically means that my parsing is very likely accurate |
| 22:56.43 | Kivin | i met a 0-61-0 hunter today, speaking of specs... |
| 22:56.50 | Cryect | You sure you have syncing enabled? |
| 22:56.57 | Cryect | Because Recount definately uses the prefix Recount |
| 22:56.58 | Bruners | i have seen two huntards today without lethal shots |
| 22:57.07 | Hjalte | Elsia: Have in mind, that the WWS is my combatlog and another Recount users. |
| 22:57.12 | Antiarc | Heya Killmore |
| 22:57.16 | Bruners | thats 5% crit |
| 22:57.17 | Hjalte | Cryect: One hundred percent sure. |
| 22:57.24 | Killmore | Antiarc: ready for testing ? |
| 22:57.33 | Antiarc | Not yet. You can play with the alpha if you want. |
| 22:57.43 | Antiarc | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Omen/2.4/ but standard alpha caveats apply |
| 22:58.04 | [SW]Dodge | can someone explain me what the "UI Scale" at Video options really does? i'm currently confused about it:( |
| 22:58.10 | Cryect | Recount:SetCommPrefix("RECOUNT") |
| 22:58.13 | [VM]Mysticfox | Is TinyTip not working properly on the PTR? |
| 22:58.15 | Cryect | thats what Recount uses |
| 22:58.20 | Elsia | hjalte: yeah it's cool still because basically your side of the sync is identical with WWS, or at least I can't find any discrepancy |
| 22:58.23 | Xinhuan | [SW]Dodge: all it does is perform UIParent:SetScale() |
| 22:58.26 | [VM]Mysticfox | Something's messing with my game tooltip and I don't know what else it could be |
| 22:58.31 | Xinhuan | and the value is saved in a CVAR |
| 22:58.33 | Kivin | god, cheat death is a broken skill |
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| 22:58.44 | Kivin | 5 of us bashing on this fucking rogue with 79 HP for like 15 second |
| 22:58.52 | Xinhuan | the cvar has limits to set the lower limit at 0.64 and the upper limit at 1 |
| 22:58.53 | Fth|Daemona | Antiarc does that include it would work in a ptr raid environment? |
| 22:59.07 | Fth|Daemona | Kivin no, Cheat death is a 3 second duration |
| 22:59.16 | Xinhuan | so while you can do UIParent:SetScale() directly, the cvars will still have effect on your next login |
| 22:59.17 | Antiarc | Fth|Daemona: It might, theoretically. I haven't tested it much beyond "Okay, I can group with someone else running it and things seem to work" |
| 22:59.25 | Kivin | Fth|Daemona: Not sure what it is, then |
| 22:59.28 | Chompers | 3 tanks get toyed, joy |
| 22:59.37 | Hjalte | Cryect: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_021708_235806.jpg - Lovesick is me. |
| 22:59.40 | Fth|Daemona | Antiarc well guess i check it out and force the ptr raid to install it on monday ;) |
| 23:00.17 | Antiarc | Fth|Daemona: As long as they can figure out how to uninstall it and wipe saved vars for future versions, sure :) |
| 23:00.25 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: yes, but i was the mind if i use as a width 100 and uiscale is at 1 it'll be displayed at 100px but i have setWidth(100) @ uiScale 0.81 and it is displayed with a width of 100 px :( |
| 23:00.28 | Fth|Daemona | btw i accidently through a 113mb combatlog at your gmail account *cough* |
| 23:00.33 | [SW]Dodge | i could bet it should be 81px :( |
| 23:00.35 | Fth|Daemona | feel free to ignore |
| 23:00.40 | Fth|Daemona | or do whatever you want with it |
| 23:00.49 | Cryect | Hmmm does AceComm hash prefixes larger than something I wonder |
| 23:00.53 | Fth|Daemona | s/through/threw |
| 23:00.55 | Antiarc | Fth|Daemona: Heheh, lern2zip! :P |
| 23:00.56 | Xinhuan | [SW]Dodge: then your frame is not parented to UIParent |
| 23:01.02 | Fth|Daemona | its zipped ;) |
| 23:01.03 | Xinhuan | or its parent is not parented to UIParent |
| 23:01.03 | Antiarc | I was wondering what stalled my account out this morning :P |
| 23:01.18 | Xinhuan | frames who's root parent is "nil" doesn't get affected by UIParent scaling |
| 23:01.29 | Fth|Daemona | combat logs zip well, its around 7mb zipped ^^ |
| 23:01.30 | Cryect | Ah yeah it does |
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| 23:01.40 | Cryect | Hjalte: Guess thats Recount |
| 23:01.43 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: it happens with one of the Pitull UF and with a own frame |
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| 23:01.47 | Hjalte | Cryect: :) |
| 23:01.48 | Elsia | hjalte: using any pet damage? |
| 23:01.49 | nevcairiel | 113mb? is the new log format that much bigger or is that really like 20 hours raid ? :P |
| 23:02.03 | Hjalte | Elsia: Huh? If I'm using a pet or? |
| 23:02.06 | Fth|Daemona | nevcairiel 2 days ptr kalecgos and brutalus |
| 23:02.14 | Xinhuan | then you should find out if your pitbull frames are parented to UIParent, or to nil |
| 23:02.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:01] <Fth|Daemona> combat logs zip well, its around 7mb zipped ^^ <--they .tar.bz2 even better. |
| 23:02.25 | Elsia | hjalte: yeah because it's merged in the screenie so I can't see it |
| 23:02.33 | Fth|Daemona | so if anyone wants to test a parser against some major combat logs... drop me a mail in pm ;) |
| 23:02.34 | Cryect | nevcairiel: the new log is really a ton bigger |
| 23:02.45 | Elsia | er nevermind me |
| 23:02.45 | Elsia | no pet damage recorded |
| 23:03.00 | Hjalte | Elsia: Sacrificing my succubus before the fight starts, but nothing else no. |
| 23:03.06 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, the new log is like tons of flags for every combat log event, rather than a simple combat log english sentence |
| 23:03.22 | Elsia | hmm I have a weird idea |
| 23:03.31 | Xinhuan | "ABC dies." |
| 23:03.37 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: they should be parented to UIParent since they disapear if i hide the ui |
| 23:03.39 | Xinhuan | becomes like a 100 byte line in the new system |
| 23:03.51 | nevcairiel | we will have our first sunwell raid tomorrow |
| 23:03.57 | nevcairiel | so i'll see that myself then ;) |
| 23:04.09 | Chompers | hrm, thats enough kael for one night |
| 23:04.14 | Xinhuan | i dont' know then |
| 23:04.16 | Fth|Daemona | prepare yourself for some fun on the trash to the first boss :) |
| 23:04.19 | Xinhuan | ask ck about it |
| 23:04.42 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
| 23:05.39 | [SW]Dodge | mhm... damn... forgotten why i asked about uiScale /sigh |
| 23:05.55 | Hjalte | Elsia: The reason that Kaleth and Firehand are syncing so much data, is that because they're using a version that hasn't got the new sync code in it? |
| 23:06.28 | Fth|Daemona | http://i27.tinypic.com/14xz1j7.jpg -> that happens when you get bored from raiding bt for 8+month :/ |
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| 23:07.06 | iNs|Renew | you roll a troll? |
| 23:07.09 | iNs|Renew | im sorry |
| 23:07.19 | Fth|Daemona | no check the defensive stats ;) |
| 23:08.10 | Elsia | hjalte: yeah, even though the change is rather small it makes a big difference |
| 23:08.40 | Cryect | oh did you implement the new sync code in 2.4 code? |
| 23:08.48 | Elsia | hjalte: there is a good chance that the sync code gets even slimmer (if I find a way to exploit sending GUIDs instead of mob names) |
| 23:09.00 | Hjalte | Cryect: My problems are on live |
| 23:09.09 | Elsia | oh |
| 23:09.12 | Cryect | oh! |
| 23:09.14 | Hjalte | :) |
| 23:09.15 | Elsia | hehe |
| 23:09.25 | Elsia | well then cryect can speak to the new sync code :D |
| 23:09.33 | Orionshock | anyone on the PTR horde side need a druid? |
| 23:09.38 | Cryect | GUID's are normally long than names so not sure how you really going to save that much space by sending guids instead :-p |
| 23:09.41 | Elsia | but yeah I copied the sync code changes for ptr |
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| 23:10.01 | Gandharva | Antiarc: Some PTR errors from Threat 2.0 for you -> http://ace.pastey.net/82511 / http://ace.pastey.net/82512 |
| 23:10.19 | Elsia | GUIDs are numbers and for players can be truncated a lot |
| 23:10.25 | Antiarc | Thanks Gandharva |
| 23:10.37 | Elsia | for mobs you only send a subpart too |
| 23:11.06 | Cryect | true true but just wait when they use more bits than you figure! |
| 23:11.28 | Civrock | FtH|Daemona: How do you manage to play with 91.9MiB? What's causing all of that? |
| 23:11.48 | Cryect | Recount |
| 23:11.57 | Cryect | and what do you mean how do you play with all that |
| 23:12.19 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61821 10Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Warrior.lua Threat-2.0.lua): Threat-2.0: Fix NumMobs error, warrior Devastate error |
| 23:12.22 | Cryect | Addon Memory usage has little effect on FPS or anything else as long as your GC settings are set to constantly try to collect |
| 23:12.27 | Cryect | aren't* |
| 23:12.28 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: what subpart for mobs? |
| 23:12.42 | Civrock | Well, even without any damagemeters my memory usage increases pretty quickly during raids or even BGs and when I get above 60MiB my game becomes very choppy, and I have 3.75GB RAM. |
| 23:12.46 | Fth|Daemona | Civrock uuh i guess 90mb is no problem in 4gb ram :X |
| 23:12.55 | Cryect | Civrock: thats an addon issue |
| 23:13.00 | Cryect | Civrock: not memory |
| 23:13.16 | Elsia | arrow: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11418.0, the one that decodes to mobid |
| 23:13.18 | sag_ich_nicht | your mom on the other hand |
| 23:13.20 | sag_ich_nicht | IS a memory issue |
| 23:13.24 | Fth|Daemona | and recount is barely 4MB of the memory used |
| 23:13.24 | Xinhuan | well Civrock, it could also be a operating system issue |
| 23:13.33 | Civrock | Funny thing is, the memory isn't associated to any of my addons according to all known performance meters. |
| 23:13.37 | Gandharva | Antiarc, is there anything I can test for you? |
| 23:13.45 | Fth|Daemona | aloft and arkinventory are worse ;) |
| 23:13.45 | Xinhuan | just because you have 4 gb ram, doesn't mean that the OS keeps all of the program it runs in memory |
| 23:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: increasing pagepoolsize helps a ton with WoW |
| 23:13.52 | Cryect | it depends what the addon does with all that memory that effects the game of course |
| 23:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and other games |
| 23:14.07 | Xinhuan | in fact windows is pretty anal and swaps most things out |
| 23:14.09 | Elsia | arrow: of course if you want disambiguation you'd want to send the lowest 20 bits too |
| 23:14.11 | Vangual | back in wow 1.9 i turned off gc completely during thaddius, ended up at 320odd MB ram used at combat end, no slowdown tho |
| 23:14.20 | Civrock | Mac OS 10.5.2 here. :P |
| 23:14.26 | Arrowmaster | lowest 24bits i think |
| 23:14.31 | Vangual | the engine can handle much more than most would imagine |
| 23:14.50 | Elsia | yep 24 |
| 23:14.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i set mine to 0xFFFFFFFF which makes Windows calculate the maximum pagepoolsize possible with the available RAM |
| 23:15.08 | sag_ich_nicht | pretty useful if you have 4 GB or 3.5 for that matter |
| 23:15.16 | sag_ich_nicht | but on all other configurations i wouldn't do that |
| 23:15.20 | Fth|Daemona | interesting, i might try that... |
| 23:15.36 | Civrock | Well, what can I do to avoid my game becoming choppy when memory usage increases? In OSX? |
| 23:15.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and it makes WoW crash less. a lot |
| 23:15.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Civrock: get more ram? |
| 23:15.55 | sag_ich_nicht | update OSX? |
| 23:16.03 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r61822 10SimpleBossWhisperer/SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: SimpleBossWhisperer: Don't reply to people in the raid. |
| 23:16.04 | sag_ich_nicht | install GCTweak? |
| 23:16.07 | Civrock | Latest version, 3.75GB. |
| 23:16.26 | Civrock | I had that but I thought it became obsolete with one of the WoW patches? |
| 23:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | well i still see extra garbage collections from it |
| 23:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | but clad|office might flame me now |
| 23:16.48 | Antiarc | Gandharva: Just use it and send any reports you find my way |
| 23:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | so i don't know :P |
| 23:17.57 | Gandharva | okay |
| 23:18.06 | Civrock | It's odd because performance meters show an increasing memory value but none of my addons are actually showing an increased value, so I have no clue what it could be. |
| 23:21.17 | Shadowed | Anyone played with sourceFlags/destFlags with combatlog stuff that I could bug? Having trouble only getting events for hostile players, or hostile players pet/guardians and i'm fairly sure I'm missing something key |
| 23:21.40 | Elsia | shadowed: mostly played with friendly, but what's the issue? |
| 23:21.54 | Elsia | shadowed: I had weird issues with the global vars and had to make local copies to avoid that |
| 23:22.24 | Shadowed | I've got local copies, I've been doing |
| 23:22.26 | Elsia | shadowed: basically shamelessly copied the flags local copies from GUIDRegistry |
| 23:22.34 | Elsia | ah ok |
| 23:22.41 | Shadowed | bit.bor(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PLAYER, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PET, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_GUARDIAN) |
| 23:22.50 | Shadowed | then bit.band(sourceFlags, bit.bor(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PLAYER, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PET, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_GUARDIAN)) > 0 |
| 23:22.55 | Shadowed | but that seems to catch friendly players too |
| 23:23.15 | CIA-12 | 037destiny * r61823 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: |
| 23:23.15 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 23:23.15 | CIA-12 | - koKR update |
| 23:23.23 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: probably not a good way to do that |
| 23:23.35 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Oh? Thats the way I've been seeing it done |
| 23:23.54 | Elsia | yes because 0xf and 0x1 is 0x1, hence >0 |
| 23:24.02 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 23:24.03 | Elsia | i.e. all pets and all guardians will pass that if |
| 23:24.05 | Arrowmaster | when bit boring that much youll want to do something other than >0 |
| 23:24.09 | Elsia | even if friendly |
| 23:24.24 | Shadowed | You'd just do bit.band(sourceFlags, bit.bor(foo)) == bit.bor(foo) ? |
| 23:24.38 | Elsia | you want: == bit.bor(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PLAYER, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PET) or == bit.bor(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PLAYER, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_GUARDIAN) |
| 23:24.47 | sag_ich_nicht | is there some addon to ignore DND messages? pisses me off |
| 23:25.03 | Elsia | shadowed: pretty much |
| 23:25.05 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: also apparently if you need to do it that way and not make a local bit.bor'd var earlyer you can just add the globals instead of bit.boring them as long as they are single bits |
| 23:25.25 | Gnarfoz | Fth|Daemona: lol, in your agi screenshot there, that dude was seriously dumb, ;D |
| 23:25.35 | Elsia | yep COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE+ COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PLAYER is like an or |
| 23:25.51 | Arrowmaster | as long as they are single bits |
| 23:26.05 | Fth|Daemona | look at my kings timer, i was desperate in finding someone with improved totems Gnarfoz ;) |
| 23:26.05 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 23:26.06 | Shadowed | http://shadowed.pastey.net/82513 is what you're saying then, correct? |
| 23:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | some asshole here is using a honor farm bot |
| 23:26.23 | sag_ich_nicht | his bot takes a screenhot each time you whisper him tho |
| 23:26.26 | sag_ich_nicht | so i spam him with a macro |
| 23:26.27 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: i cant look right now, raiding and dont have enough ram to open browser too |
| 23:26.38 | Kivin | why would it take a screenshot? |
| 23:26.40 | sag_ich_nicht | hope he got diskspace and jpg instead of TGA set |
| 23:26.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin: Gms |
| 23:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | *GMs |
| 23:26.51 | Shadowed | it's just |
| 23:26.54 | Kivin | still don't get it... what's a screenshot gonna do ya |
| 23:27.03 | Shadowed | local ENEMY_AFFILIATION = bit.bor(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PLAYER, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PET, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_GUARDIAN) and then a bit.band(sourceFlags, ENEMY_AFFILIATION) == ENEMY_AFFILIATION |
| 23:27.07 | Gnarfoz | Fth|Daemona: yea, but that he didn't get what you meant by "party" is seriously wrong ;D |
| 23:27.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin: i don't know, i just know the addons does this |
| 23:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 23:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | *bot |
| 23:27.20 | sag_ich_nicht | not addon |
| 23:27.58 | Kivin | Only run into two horde honor bots that I've noticed, and I logged over to their servers n got them kicked out of their guilds |
| 23:28.14 | Elsia | shadowed: don't think you can ever be both enemy affiliated and group affiliated.. hmm well unless MC'd |
| 23:28.40 | Elsia | nevermind |
| 23:28.45 | Elsia | different flags... |
| 23:28.46 | Shadowed | yea |
| 23:28.59 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: could you post the guardian stuff to the libguidregistry post so i dont forget later, and the request to store the name |
| 23:29.04 | Shadowed | I just want events from hostile players, or hostile players pets/guardians that are on either us, or a party/raid member |
| 23:29.16 | Elsia | arrow: will do |
| 23:29.37 | Elsia | shadow: just don't check for pet/player, exclude NPCs |
| 23:29.44 | Arrowmaster | raiding from 5-11 can make me forget things |
| 23:29.58 | Fth|Daemona | guess i can easily reach the 100% melee evasion when 2.4 hits ... those feral stuff is really agi heavy ;) |
| 23:30.00 | Elsia | i.e. if hostile and not NPC then |
| 23:30.01 | Shadowed | You can exclude NPCs? |
| 23:30.05 | Elsia | sure |
| 23:30.19 | Elsia | COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_NPC |
| 23:30.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Fth|Daemona: in b4 dodgecap |
| 23:30.42 | Elsia | that way hostile objects can also attack you :D |
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| 23:31.03 | Elsia | or you exclude those too |
| 23:31.19 | Elsia | COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_OBJECT |
| 23:31.21 | Shadowed | basically what you mean is |
| 23:31.24 | Shadowed | bit.band(sourceFlags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE) == COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE and bit.band(sourceFlags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_NPC) ~= COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_NPC |
| 23:31.26 | Shadowed | if I understand you right? |
| 23:31.36 | [VM]Mysticfox | Anyone know of a tooltip addon that's properly working on the 2.4 PTR? I'm having an issue with TinyTip: http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08081/tooltip_problem446.jpg |
| 23:31.52 | Fth|Daemona | sag_ich_nicht i hope not before i tanked some nice gruul or so |
| 23:32.00 | Thorgard | [VM]Mysticfox, you could always try CowTip.. dunno if it's working. |
| 23:32.01 | Fth|Daemona | [VM]Mysticfox uuuh cowtip is working fine for me |
| 23:32.05 | Elsia | i.e. something like if band(flags,hostile) == hostile and band(flags,npc+object)==0 then |
| 23:32.17 | [VM]Mysticfox | I'll try it again and see if I have the same issue. Thanks =) |
| 23:32.34 | [VM]Mysticfox | TinyTip appears to be borked though |
| 23:32.54 | Elsia | band(.)==0 guarantees that neither flag can be set. |
| 23:33.03 | Shadowed | Think I'll leave it as just checking any hostile event for now, but I'll keep what you said in mind Ellipsis |
| 23:33.03 | Shadowed | thanks for the info |
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| 23:33.31 | kudakeru | If I create a separate chat frame, its frame name is whatever I set the tab name to, correct? |
| 23:33.32 | Elsia | sure |
| 23:33.51 | kudakeru | I'm trying to make BigBrother's CC messages show up somewhere other than my primary chat window, not having much luck. |
| 23:34.29 | Arrowmaster | kudakeru: no its name will be ChatFrame# where # is a number between 1-7 |
| 23:34.49 | Elsia | anyway, gotta go sleep. work tomorrow morning :P |
| 23:34.51 | Elsia | nite folks |
| 23:34.58 | kudakeru | CombatLog counts as a frame, I'm guessing. |
| 23:35.31 | CIA-12 | 03cryect 072.4 * r61824 10Recount2/ (Data.lua Recount2.lua Tables.lua): |
| 23:35.31 | CIA-12 | Recount2: |
| 23:35.31 | CIA-12 | - Changed how filtering works, you now call :SetFilter(filterID, dataSet, dataIndex, info, power, school, hitType) this associates a filter that can be used with filterID |
| 23:35.31 | CIA-12 | - :FilterCombatantData(filterID) will create the filterTable for a specified filterID |
| 23:35.31 | CIA-12 | - :CompressFilter(filterID) will compress the data down from a filterTable of specified filterID into stats for each combatant |
| 23:35.48 | Antiarc | Yes, the combat log is ChatFrame2 |
| 23:35.56 | Arrowmaster | type /run for i=1,7 do if getglobal("ChatFrame"..i) then getglobal("ChatFrame"..i):AddMessage("ChatFrame"..i) end end |
| 23:36.34 | kudakeru | Awesome, thanks. |
| 23:36.39 | iNs|Renew | Mystic, have you tried cowtip? |
| 23:37.22 | [VM]Mysticfox | Trying it now |
| 23:37.35 | [VM]Mysticfox | It wasn't really bad unless combat was happening near me |
| 23:40.01 | Pkekyo| | anyone know what SSWF stands for? |
| 23:40.07 | [VM]Mysticfox | Kind of having an issue using CowTip too where the tooltip is not always properly displayed during combat |
| 23:40.45 | [VM]Mysticfox | I kept my mouse over one of my buffalo buff icons and I engaged a mob to get in combat and the tooltip goes away |
| 23:41.11 | [VM]Mysticfox | it comes back if I move my mouse away and back over the icon again though |
| 23:41.13 | Grum | <Pkekyo|> anyone know what SSWF stands for? <-- context? |
| 23:42.23 | Pkekyo| | Grum: written on the top of my camera, next to a red(?) led |
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| 23:42.41 | Grum | camera manual! |
| 23:42.45 | [VM]Mysticfox | Only thing I really need to see the tooltip for right now is learning about abilities for the new encounters in Sunwell |
| 23:43.06 | Orionshock | <3 that party leadership is fubar'ed |
| 23:43.24 | Orionshock | you can do everything the leader can if you've had lead previously |
| 23:45.10 | Thorgard | Pkekyo|, Supersonic Wave Filter |
| 23:45.36 | Thorgard | Pkekyo|, anti-dust thingie. |
| 23:45.39 | Pkekyo| | Thorgard: you serious? if so: what the flying fuck does it mean? |
| 23:45.40 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 23:46.05 | Pkekyo| | exactly what does it do then? |
| 23:46.35 | Thorgard | It says.. |
| 23:46.40 | Thorgard | "The Dust Reduction System prevents dust entry into the camera by hermetically sealing the space between SSWF and CCD sensor surface" |
| 23:46.51 | Pkekyo| | ooh |
| 23:46.51 | Pkekyo| | nice |
| 23:46.56 | Thorgard | Shakes dust off the sensor. |
| 23:48.45 | kudakeru | hmm |
| 23:48.55 | kudakeru | Print() doesn't take ChatFrame# as an argument, does it? |
| 23:49.09 | Arrowmaster | which Print()? |
| 23:49.12 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61825 10Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Spell reflection handling. Parses, but not tested. |
| 23:50.04 | kudakeru | Pretty sure it's just AceConsole Print() |
| 23:50.10 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 23:50.33 | kudakeru | addon:Print() |
| 23:50.45 | kudakeru | Which in this case is just BigBrother:Print(), using AceConsole. |
| 23:50.52 | Wogroipl | our guild just got the first phoenix mount on our server, horde side :) |
| 23:51.28 | Arrowmaster | kudakeru: are you wanting to make all :Print()'s from BigBrother goto a certain chatframe? |
| 23:51.33 | kudakeru | Yeah |
| 23:51.59 | kudakeru | The API documentation doesn't give anything for Print()'s arguments. |
| 23:52.35 | Recluse | what's the best free (ad supported?) large-file transfer service? megaupload? |
| 23:54.09 | Arrowmaster | set BigBrother.printFrame to whichever chatframe you want it to goto, like /script BigBrother.printFrame = ChatFrame3 |
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| 23:55.28 | Yssaril | arrow u should put that in the config sounds like it could be usefull :) |
| 23:55.54 | Arrowmaster | thats a standard ace2 feature |
| 23:56.07 | kudakeru | Thanks Arrow. |
| 23:56.08 | Arrowmaster | ive never even used bigbrother |
| 23:56.18 | Arrowmaster | so im not touching its config |
| 23:56.19 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r61826 10Proximo2/locals/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | Proximo2 : |
| 23:56.19 | CIA-12 | - koKR Update |
| 23:56.25 | Cryect | I can't believe how many updates its gotten after I stopped touching it ages ago |
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| 23:57.18 | sb | Cryect: recount2 status? :)) |
| 23:57.31 | Cryect | Well filtering of data is coming along well |
| 23:57.32 | sb | going to be finished with 2.4? |
| 23:57.59 | kudakeru | hmm |
| 23:58.02 | sb | just cry if it is ready to test on PTR |
| 23:58.02 | Cryect | Currently working on having once a filter is set more data keep getting added to it instead of having to call the check everything function |
| 23:58.03 | kudakeru | That didn't actually work. |
| 23:58.10 | Cryect | I will when its to that point |
| 23:58.17 | Cryect | since will need more testing than just myself |
| 23:58.25 | Cryect | coming along well though |
| 23:58.42 | sb | Cryect: good time for feature suggestions? :P |
| 23:59.24 | Shinwei | more visual customization please :) |
| 23:59.55 | Cryect | hmmm at this very moment not exactly |
