| 00:00.28 | Lej | Think ackis has short comment like: boss drop steamvaults or drop from sunfury archer |
| 00:00.35 | Arrowmaster | mykx: since 2.4 has been on ptr |
| 00:00.49 | Ellipsis | Lej: bongos mapbar? |
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| 00:01.00 | Ellipsis | try disabling that and see if it fixes your issues |
| 00:01.11 | Lej | ooh, missed that one, will try. |
| 00:01.43 | Chaud | uneditied: http://lolackiss.ytmnd.com/ edited: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5277/ackisfv2.jpg |
| 00:01.51 | mykx | Arrowmaster ok thanks |
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| 00:02.16 | Recluse | xlvii: RecipeRadar shows icons on your minimap/zone map when you are nearby one (can view the full list tho). TradeJunkie has author-comments on where or if they are vendor/drop., never used the Ackis one, so i've no idea |
| 00:03.04 | Lej | Ellipsis: Yup that fixed it. Thanks |
| 00:04.09 | Chompers | that ss above has titan panel and perl, eaw |
| 00:04.36 | Niche | :S |
| 00:04.50 | Ellipsis | anytime Lej :) |
| 00:05.37 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: only thing I know about that shot is that it show's he's not an asshole when he's trolling here ;p |
| 00:05.59 | Fisker- | :<? |
| 00:07.20 | theoddone33 | I hadn't played my druid since they added instashifting |
| 00:07.23 | theoddone33 | it's kinda fun |
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| 00:14.03 | Beulvar | is there a problem with the wowace updater? |
| 00:14.22 | xyu | you tell us :D |
| 00:14.23 | Xinhuan | no? |
| 00:14.52 | Beulvar | everything it tries to update says this: Error During Update (Will Retry Automatically) |
| 00:15.04 | mykx | ckknight: any 2.4 parrot builds up on the svn yet? getting ready to do sunwell tonight with the guild :) |
| 00:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no there aren't |
| 00:16.42 | sag_ich_nicht | kill yourself |
| 00:17.12 | mykx | sag_ich_nicht take your own advice and show me how it's done perhaps |
| 00:17.21 | phyber | why is it that with DogTag when a player is out of range, they count as both 'IsPlayer' and '~IsPlayerOrPet' ? they can't be both! :o |
| 00:18.48 | Ellipsis | phyber: yeah, I saw that report - I'll check it later |
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| 00:19.22 | break19 | heh. http://threeinchesofbloodsport.ytmnd.com/ |
| 00:20.12 | Miyari | :o Ackis is nice :) |
| 00:20.55 | kadrahil | oh man |
| 00:20.58 | kadrahil | i'm about to do an arena game |
| 00:20.59 | kadrahil | with |
| 00:21.04 | kadrahil | a warrior and rogue and i'm a holy priest |
| 00:21.07 | phyber | Ellipsis: cool. It's been bugging me for ages, like months. I thought it was because of my DogTag line though, but apparently not :/ |
| 00:21.08 | kadrahil | with 500 healing and 28 resilience |
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| 00:22.22 | Miyari | lol this makes me feel like a failure |
| 00:22.23 | Miyari | http://www.nordrassil.org/ackis.jpg |
| 00:22.27 | Miyari | the top recipe <.< |
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| 00:28.08 | phyber | [IsPlayer ? [IsFriend ? Name:ClassColor ! [IsEnemy ? [PvP ? Name:HostileColor ! Name:ClassColor] ] ] ! [~IsPlayerOrPet ? [Status ? Name:StatusColor ! Name:AggroColor] ] ] |
| 00:28.28 | phyber | I think this conquered the bug. Pets that are out of range, fortunately don't count as Players ;) |
| 00:29.23 | Chaud | Miyari: Ackis is funny |
| 00:30.26 | piranther | can anyone tell me a rough estimate of when the 2.4 patch will go live? forgive my ignorance pls. |
| 00:30.42 | Chaud | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 00:30.43 | Xinhuan | 2 months |
| 00:31.38 | Miyari | I never use transmutes so there's recipes I couldn't be bothered ot buy lol |
| 00:32.00 | xyu | xmute earth to water is the only one 've really dealt with |
| 00:32.21 | Miyari | I use the meta ones whenever a guidie asks, otherwise the cooldown goes unused : |
| 00:32.58 | Chaud | =O |
| 00:33.19 | Chaud | AH mats, make gem, cut gem, put on AH for profit |
| 00:33.59 | Miyari | i don't play often outside of raids hehe |
| 00:34.10 | Miyari | haven't used professions to make money in ages |
| 00:34.13 | Miyari | i just now started herbalising again |
| 00:34.44 | Chaud | I'm bad at making money / playing the AH, only have 9k gold =\ |
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| 00:35.22 | Lej | obligatory: OVER 9000?! |
| 00:35.26 | Xinhuan | so, i'm uninstalling matlab, and because it has some 96 thousand files, its taking some 6 minutes to remove |
| 00:36.02 | kebinusan | heh thats a fair number of files |
| 00:36.03 | break19 | Xinhuan: mk? |
| 00:36.23 | Gnarfoz | yay! fixed my ItemRack to recognize my nether ray as a mount :> |
| 00:38.31 | Chaud | use gogomount instead =p |
| 00:42.09 | Fisker- | i got over 9000 hp |
| 00:43.01 | Gnarfoz | Chaud: yea, because... no, that serves an entirely scope of usage ;p |
| 00:43.14 | Chaud | =( |
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| 00:46.32 | CIA-12 | 03morgalm * r62806 10Incubator/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:46.32 | CIA-12 | Incubator: |
| 00:46.32 | CIA-12 | - added standby mode |
| 00:46.32 | CIA-12 | - haven't been able to get candybars to resume properly on re-entering zone but fubar timers do |
| 00:46.35 | theoddone33 | for some reason I think a mod that says "meow" "moo" or "rawr" every time I change forms would be amusing |
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| 00:47.56 | Primer | !rating 1547 |
| 00:47.56 | Chaud | A sound or text =\ |
| 00:47.57 | Xinhuan | 1547 rating gives 398(5s), 350(3s) and 302(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 00:48.47 | Primer | dropped from 1607 :( |
| 00:48.56 | Primer | stupid arena is just broken |
| 00:49.12 | theoddone33 | text |
| 00:49.19 | Primer | just about every team we went up against had ringers |
| 00:51.19 | Chaud | 1500s are hard on my alt =p |
| 00:51.32 | Chaud | In 3s every other team has someone with shoulders =\ |
| 00:52.00 | theoddone33 | I've been having a really hard time in 3s on what should be a decent team |
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| 00:52.38 | Chaud | "should" |
| 00:52.45 | theoddone33 | yeah, we suck |
| 00:52.51 | theoddone33 | I'm not sure why though |
| 00:52.53 | Chaud | I play my alt with randoms from trade =p |
| 00:53.08 | Chaud | and my main lately =\ |
| 00:53.12 | theoddone33 | we tried two shadow priests and a paladin |
| 00:53.20 | theoddone33 | won maybe 45% |
| 00:53.23 | Chaud | That's pretty awful |
| 00:53.27 | Chaud | the setup |
| 00:53.29 | theoddone33 | I know |
| 00:53.42 | theoddone33 | so then we tried two shadow preists and a rogue |
| 00:53.48 | theoddone33 | did slightly better but only played a couple games |
| 00:53.58 | theoddone33 | then one of the priests specced discipline |
| 00:54.00 | Chaud | swap one priest for a mage or lock =p |
| 00:54.03 | theoddone33 | but he's wearing damage gear |
| 00:54.33 | Chaud | spriest isnt great on 2 DPS teams against the teams that can just outlast the damage |
| 00:54.44 | theoddone33 | yup |
| 00:54.53 | theoddone33 | if we didn't kill something in the first 20 seconds we lost without fail |
| 00:55.12 | Chaud | Why not play 3 DPS then =p |
| 00:55.24 | theoddone33 | we did, I swapped in my rogue |
| 00:55.51 | theoddone33 | so the last time we played one of the priests was disc/damage |
| 00:56.04 | theoddone33 | we went like 5-3 with my rogue |
| 00:56.19 | theoddone33 | and both priests are like "I really think we'd do better with the paladin" :( :( |
| 00:56.37 | theoddone33 | really frustrating |
| 00:57.13 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62807 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua fonts/ABF.ttf fonts/VeraSe.ttf): SharedMedia: added ABF.ttf and VeraSe.ttf (from PitBull). |
| 00:57.15 | theoddone33 | if we played priest rogue spriest with the disc priest healing we'd be a weaker version of PMR and would probably win more |
| 00:58.22 | xyu | in my opinion , pally is only good in 5's |
| 00:58.28 | xyu | unless it's 2 ret pallies :D |
| 00:58.36 | theoddone33 | I agree |
| 00:58.37 | xyu | on a rush team |
| 00:58.40 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r62808 10Proximo2/locals/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 00:58.40 | CIA-12 | Proximo2 : |
| 00:58.40 | CIA-12 | - koKR Update |
| 00:58.53 | theoddone33 | although I know a ret pally holy pally war team that got to 2k |
| 01:01.35 | Pkekyo| | BLARBLAR |
| 01:02.02 | Pkekyo| | koKR? knights of klonk republic? |
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| 01:02.50 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62809 10SharedMedia-2.0/ (SharedMedia-2.0.lua fonts/ABF.ttf fonts/VeraSe.ttf): SharedMedia-2.0: added ABF.ttf and VeraSe.ttf (from PitBull). |
| 01:03.40 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62810 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua media/ABF.ttf media/Cilo.tga media/VeraSe.ttf): PitBull: Remove texture and font files, and default to Blizzard's. The old defaults are still available by installing SharedMedia. |
| 01:04.59 | Antiarc | PTR is dying. |
| 01:05.42 | Xinhuan | what's new? |
| 01:06.30 | Xinhuan | argh, should i try to complete this assignment in 4 hours, or ask my professor for an extension |
| 01:08.05 | theoddone33 | both |
| 01:09.12 | Shirik | soooo |
| 01:09.16 | Shirik | we're going to gruul with 2 healers |
| 01:09.18 | Shirik | this should be fun |
| 01:09.29 | theoddone33 | you made it past maulgar? |
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| 01:09.39 | Shirik | he shouldn't be difficult |
| 01:09.48 | Xinhuan | you did maulgar with 2 healers? |
| 01:09.53 | Shirik | about to |
| 01:10.16 | Shirik | 2 1/2 sorry |
| 01:10.23 | Shirik | our prot pally is going to heal after his mob is dead |
| 01:10.49 | Xinhuan | the mage tanks needs 3k heals every 3 secs and 9k heals every 30 secs ;p |
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| 01:10.57 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r62811 10DaPortrait/modules/Text.lua: |
| 01:10.57 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 01:10.57 | CIA-12 | - Fix Enable/Disable individual text frames (show != font) |
| 01:11.01 | Shirik | that's easy |
| 01:11.12 | Xinhuan | i somehow think 2 is streching it a bit |
| 01:11.21 | Shirik | well we're going to find out :D |
| 01:11.25 | Shirik | don't have much of another choice |
| 01:11.32 | CIA-12 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62812 10Recount2/ (5 files): |
| 01:11.32 | CIA-12 | Recount2: |
| 01:11.32 | CIA-12 | -Bug fixes now that PTR is back up |
| 01:11.32 | CIA-12 | -Example test list frame code /script a=Recount2:CreateListFrame('test', nil, 200, 400, 20, 2);a:SetView('cTotal', 'left', 'right', 'Outgoing', 1, nil, nil, nil) |
| 01:12.10 | theoddone33 | gruul with 2 healers sounds more plausible than maulgar to me |
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| 01:12.39 | Shirik | you all are very pessimistic |
| 01:12.54 | theoddone33 | it's true |
| 01:13.00 | Ellipsis | have a little faith in Shirik's ability to pwn |
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| 01:15.56 | Chaud | pug some healers =\ |
| 01:16.25 | Orionshock | ^^ bad idea |
| 01:16.35 | Chaud | =( a pug ZA got bear mount so... |
| 01:16.45 | Chaud | pugs are fine if you know what you are doing |
| 01:16.51 | Orionshock | top raid guilds with nothing better to do is not a pug |
| 01:17.06 | Atriace | Would it be easy to hook a lib function from another mod? |
| 01:17.20 | Chaud | 3/10 from a random pvp guild, never entered t6 content =\ |
| 01:17.26 | Chaud | besides, people pug karas in trade channel |
| 01:18.44 | WobWor1 | Atriace: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:18.46 | Atriace | I need to hook into the FuBarPlugin Lib function FuBarPlugin.OnEmbedInitialize(FuBarPlugin, self) |
| 01:19.44 | Atriace | The Minimap icons for all FuBar plugins have the wrong parent, and that function is what's defining the parent. |
| 01:19.57 | Orionshock | Atriace: no |
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| 01:20.32 | Atriace | Orionshock: No not possible, or no it's a different function? |
| 01:20.47 | Orionshock | no your simply thinking about it the wrong way |
| 01:21.13 | Orionshock | unless you got something fubarish and conveluded up your sleeve then try something else. |
| 01:21.23 | Atriace | lol |
| 01:22.49 | Atriace | SetParent for any icon from within my code apart from hooking would seem impractical. The names are self. based (e.g., FuBarPluginOmenFrameMinimapButton) |
| 01:23.22 | Atriace | I couldn't account for the variations apart from a predefined table, I believe. |
| 01:23.23 | Orionshock | what are you trying to do with it? |
| 01:24.03 | Atriace | Minimap icons from FuBar need to be raised into a different strata. Setting parent to MinimapCluster (rather than UIParent) would do the trick. |
| 01:24.08 | theoddone33 | there isn't a way to find out how much mana you have when you're in a druid animal form is there? |
| 01:24.22 | Chaud | Pitbull has a mana bar |
| 01:24.38 | Chaud | when you are in bear/cat I think |
| 01:24.39 | theoddone33 | oh you're right, wow |
| 01:24.39 | Orionshock | theoddone33: no, |
| 01:24.42 | theoddone33 | I missed it |
| 01:24.50 | Orionshock | it's a guestimate and calculated |
| 01:24.53 | WobWor1 | Atriace: wouldn't it be better to get ckk to fix the fubar plugin code to place it on the right strata? |
| 01:25.00 | Chaud | Yeah, but it is better than nothing =( |
| 01:25.08 | WobWor1 | or is it not necessarily the 'right' strata, but the strata you're after? |
| 01:25.09 | Orionshock | Chaud: true |
| 01:25.24 | ckknight | they parent to Minimap |
| 01:25.27 | Atriace | lol. Perhaps, WobWor1. Though I do remember asking Cide to fix his code on a similar issue and I got a flatout no. |
| 01:25.34 | Bruners | anyone got a link to that screenshot of level 1 people on ptr trying to swim over? |
| 01:25.36 | ckknight | I believe. |
| 01:26.00 | Atriace | Oh, speak of the devil. Hey ckknight. :) |
| 01:26.22 | ckknight | Atriace: I'm missing my pitchfork and horns today, mind you |
| 01:26.23 | Orionshock | ckknight is a lurker Atriace ... he's sorta always here :D |
| 01:26.50 | WobWork | ck is generally fairly agreeable on broken stuff |
| 01:26.51 | Atriace | yay! no horns. ^_^ |
| 01:26.56 | WobWork | as long as it's actually broken =P |
| 01:27.23 | Orionshock | WobWork: most authors here from the major mods are :D |
| 01:27.43 | Atriace | ckknight: take a look and tell me if I'm not right. http://wowi.pastey.net/82899 |
| 01:27.51 | CIA-12 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62813 10Recount2/ (GUI_List.lua expression.lua): |
| 01:27.51 | CIA-12 | Recount2: |
| 01:27.51 | CIA-12 | -Adds :AddExpressionConstants(constName1, constValue1, ..., constNameN, constValueN) to improve the performance of not calling :AddExpressionConstant a ton |
| 01:28.06 | ckknight | Atriace: ah, that's the old FuBarPlugin |
| 01:28.30 | Atriace | Tis what's embedded in all my Fubar plugins. Perhaps they've updated though... |
| 01:28.36 | Orionshock | ckknight: what's with all the "CheckFubar()" calls? |
| 01:28.46 | ckknight | don't think too deep into it |
| 01:29.15 | Atriace | ckknight: so they should be parented to the minimap now? |
| 01:29.22 | ckknight | well, with 3.0 |
| 01:29.25 | ckknight | not 2.0, I guess |
| 01:29.26 | Arrowmaster | nobody but ckk uses LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 anyway |
| 01:29.28 | ckknight | I can look into it |
| 01:30.23 | Atriace | Hmm.... 2.0 is in the latest version of Omen too. |
| 01:30.39 | Arrowmaster | like i said, nobody but ckk uses LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 |
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| 01:31.06 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: many have. |
| 01:31.23 | Arrowmaster | lies |
| 01:31.27 | Orionshock | i did |
| 01:31.34 | Arrowmaster | then you fail |
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| 01:32.04 | Orionshock | lol, i did fail at it... it's rather a complete change from v2 |
| 01:32.30 | Atriace | Soo.... maybe if there was a way to... hook their function.... and keep an up-to-date copy of LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 in my own addon.... it might work? |
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| 01:33.06 | Atriace | Man, that seems messy. |
| 01:33.22 | Arrowmaster | just get ckk to fix 2.0 |
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| 01:33.44 | Atriace | It's kinda out of ckknight's hands if nobody uses the changes, though. :( |
| 01:34.13 | WobWork | if he modifies the plugin |
| 01:34.16 | Arrowmaster | if he fixes 2.0 then everybody will use it |
| 01:34.18 | WobWork | it'll update any addon that uses it |
| 01:34.24 | Atriace | Oh spiffy |
| 01:34.31 | Atriace | WoWAce SVN? |
| 01:35.02 | ckknight | btw, for people who have suggestions for DogTag: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11576.0 |
| 01:35.09 | ckknight | I'd like to hear what you have to say |
| 01:35.57 | Benumbed | need a dogtag for our main mage, where when i target him..it says "Dumbass" for not having enough spell hit |
| 01:36.15 | WobWork | Well |
| 01:36.20 | WobWork | that'd only work for you |
| 01:36.24 | Ellipsis | sounds like a plan Benumbed |
| 01:36.28 | Chaud | <3 the talent dogtags |
| 01:36.29 | Ellipsis | I'll see if I can sneak that in while ck is asleep |
| 01:36.32 | Benumbed | yeah, just aggravated |
| 01:36.36 | WobWork | unless you get the rest of your guild to use the dogtag =) |
| 01:37.14 | Benumbed | Pull Council, and his spellsteal is resisted |
| 01:37.22 | Benumbed | so he dies, and we wipe |
| 01:37.26 | Benumbed | fun stuff |
| 01:38.46 | xyu | well give him a list of stam gear w/ +hit on it |
| 01:39.15 | Chaud | how much HP do you need raid buffed for that =\ |
| 01:39.47 | xyu | probably similar to HKM |
| 01:40.03 | Benumbed | hes at 13k unbuffed |
| 01:40.04 | xyu | the fight is just HKM, w/ a few elements thrown in. |
| 01:40.10 | Benumbed | dunno what you actually "need" |
| 01:40.18 | xyu | he could probably lose some if his hit is really that bad. |
| 01:40.54 | Benumbed | every week we do this, pull and he dies cause resisted |
| 01:41.02 | Benumbed | takes us like 3 attempts |
| 01:41.08 | Yssaril | benumbed even at capped hit you have 1% chance to have your spells resisted (i actually managed to miss twice on a critter while being 70 and resist capped) :P |
| 01:41.20 | Benumbed | yea, but this is way more than 1% |
| 01:41.27 | Benumbed | im interrupt on priest and dont miss that much |
| 01:41.40 | Cryect | lua> string.match('test||one', "(([^%+%-%*/]*)(||)([^%+%-%*/]*))") |
| 01:41.40 | Yssaril | lol then he has a problem :P |
| 01:41.41 | lua_bot | Cryect: test||one, test, ||, one |
| 01:42.04 | Benumbed | <---enhance shaman as the spell interrupt on priest that is |
| 01:42.13 | Benumbed | 0 hit and dont think i miss/resist as much |
| 01:42.19 | xyu | we were thinking about putting our enh shaman on it |
| 01:42.22 | xyu | how does that work out for you guys? |
| 01:42.27 | xyu | we're using mages right now. |
| 01:42.28 | Benumbed | good |
| 01:42.34 | xyu | but shammy has a better cooldown |
| 01:42.37 | xyu | in case of a misclick |
| 01:42.46 | Cryect | hmmm why the hell in WoW does that get converted to test||||one, test, ||||, one |
| 01:42.53 | Benumbed | yeah i can interrupt divine wrath and still get circles |
| 01:43.04 | Chaud | does he have the talent that increases arcane spell hit? |
| 01:43.07 | Cryect | anything special about '|' in WoW that it gets doubled? |
| 01:43.19 | Orionshock | Cryect: the edit box escapes it |
| 01:43.26 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.26 | Cryect | oh... |
| 01:43.29 | Orionshock | i think |
| 01:43.41 | Orionshock | so test|one => test||one |
| 01:43.54 | Orionshock | because the | is used in chat links and is special :D |
| 01:43.55 | Cryect | alright >_< |
| 01:43.57 | Cryect | yeah |
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| 01:56.40 | Arrowmaster | all |'s typed in a wow editbox are really ||'s |
| 01:56.50 | Arrowmaster | well not all but most |
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| 01:57.12 | Cryect | yeah, I will have to keep that in mind in the future |
| 01:57.22 | Cryect | using || as my operator for or |
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| 02:01.18 | CIA-12 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62814 10Recount2/ (Tables.lua expression.lua): |
| 02:01.18 | CIA-12 | Recount2: |
| 02:01.18 | CIA-12 | -Expressions should now take negative numbers |
| 02:01.18 | CIA-12 | -Fixed table freeing |
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| 02:09.22 | WobWork | heh, I like the new BigWigs victoly noise |
| 02:09.34 | xyu | what is it |
| 02:10.17 | WobWork | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11559.0;topicseen |
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| 02:21.58 | CIA-12 | 03endeavour * r62815 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: Credits updated (it's worth clicking on that menu entry!) |
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| 02:27.28 | Kerafyrm | free gold if we click that entry? :P |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-12 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62816 10Recount2/expression.lua: |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-12 | Recount2: |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-12 | -Functions are now called with the number of arguments actually passed to them instead of how many specified when added (but there still needs to be a function passed with the number of arguments specified) |
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| 02:33.10 | Chaud | lol @WAU. One time shows wowdb ad, next time tells me that there are sexy singles waiting for me |
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| 02:36.19 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62817 10Chinchilla/ (MoveButtons/MoveButtons.lua Position/Position.lua): |
| 02:36.19 | CIA-12 | Chinchilla - for positions, make the center of the screen (0, 0). |
| 02:36.19 | CIA-12 | Note: it really doesn't matter cause it anchors to the closest corner anyway. |
| 02:39.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight did you see my pastey? |
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| 02:41.29 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: you know nils are passed with ... right? its possible to tell the difference between a nil and nothing at all |
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| 02:42.18 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: your pastey was hot |
| 02:42.20 | Ellipsis | can has moar plz |
| 02:42.36 | Cryect | Arrowmaster: hmmm, I better change slightly my code then! |
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| 02:43.13 | Kerafyrm | ooo recount2 |
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| 02:44.57 | Cryect | So looking at my code then? :-p |
| 02:45.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: maybe if i get bored again and walk to GM island again |
| 02:45.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean it takes like an hour, and that's with paladin aura and epic mount |
| 02:46.12 | Ellipsis | oh baby, yeah |
| 02:46.16 | Ellipsis | you know how I like it when you talk about your hax |
| 02:46.22 | sag_ich_nicht | uhu |
| 02:46.29 | CIA-12 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62818 10Recount2/expression.lua: |
| 02:46.29 | CIA-12 | Recount2: |
| 02:46.29 | CIA-12 | -:AddExpressionConstants the values can now be set to nil |
| 02:46.29 | CIA-12 | -The expression stack machine now has handling of functions with argcount of 1 through 4 hard coded for speed (still can handle functions w/ any number of arguments) |
| 02:46.45 | sag_ich_nicht | now go fix the bugs :P |
| 02:46.55 | Ellipsis | what bugs |
| 02:47.04 | Ellipsis | I'm done with bugs |
| 02:47.07 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/82878 |
| 02:47.12 | sag_ich_nicht | thos bugs |
| 02:47.14 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 02:47.16 | sag_ich_nicht | if you run to GM island |
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| 02:47.21 | sag_ich_nicht | and move off the worldmap |
| 02:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | cartographer freaks out |
| 02:47.33 | Ellipsis | who cares |
| 02:47.34 | Cryect | haha |
| 02:47.38 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 02:47.42 | sag_ich_nicht | LibTourist does actually |
| 02:47.44 | Cryect | GM's at GM Island? |
| 02:47.45 | Ellipsis | also: I don't use Cart, nor LibTourist, so why should I fix your shit |
| 02:47.45 | sag_ich_nicht | but still |
| 02:47.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ! |
| 02:48.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: no but you know the guy who wrote LibTourist |
| 02:48.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 02:49.04 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: I don't care about bugs you get if you exploit |
| 02:49.10 | Gibbonz | whats the status of AutoLootFu? Found out about from a forum search but thats about it... |
| 02:49.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't exploit ckknight :P |
| 02:49.22 | ckknight | GM Island? |
| 02:49.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i just... happened to walk there. |
| 02:49.35 | Chaud | on PTR? |
| 02:49.36 | ckknight | let's play a game |
| 02:49.43 | sag_ich_nicht | of thermonuclear war. |
| 02:50.03 | Gibbonz | you mean global thermonuclear war ;p |
| 02:50.09 | sag_ich_nicht | gaaah |
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| 02:50.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i could have also just, you know, left off the 5th bug and you wouldn't even know it was related to GM Island :P |
| 02:50.43 | Gibbonz | classic movie though, if a little dated ;) |
| 02:51.00 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: let's play a game |
| 02:51.02 | ckknight | it's called let's all go outside and fuck ourselves |
| 02:51.04 | ckknight | you get to go first |
| 02:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | how about no |
| 02:51.36 | ckknight | how about don't bug me about shit that only occurs when you exploit |
| 02:52.04 | ckknight | seriously annoying |
| 02:52.10 | ckknight | and uncouth |
| 02:52.48 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: see, I knew you didn't want me to get him involved |
| 02:53.03 | sag_ich_nicht | how about you properly write your code so this couldn't even happen? i mean the notes bug, okay. that's because of the zone name. obvious it only happens if you go to GM Island, but it shouldn't freak out if get out of the fucking worldmap to begin with, that's just bad code and you know it |
| 02:53.16 | Chaud | Go test it at programmers island |
| 02:53.16 | Cryect | Still not good when the code doesn't handle gracefully data that falls out of bounds |
| 02:53.21 | *** kick/#wowace [sag_ich_nicht!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
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| 02:53.22 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: have you looked at the code? |
| 02:53.27 | Ellipsis | do you know why the error is thrown? |
| 02:53.33 | Chaud | rofl |
| 02:53.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:53] <Cryect> Still not good when the code doesn't handle gracefully data that falls out of bounds <--exactly my point |
| 02:53.45 | Cryect | I mean it could just show nothing |
| 02:53.48 | Ellipsis | what if it's because your coordinates are -yourmom, -nil |
| 02:53.51 | Ellipsis | is that his fault? |
| 02:53.52 | Cryect | but throwing errors/exceptions isn't normally good |
| 02:54.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: Seriously, what about the GM's who might run a Tourist-based addon? They'll be getting errors all the time! |
| 02:54.08 | vhaarr | :p |
| 02:54.11 | sag_ich_nicht | but whatever, go and have your code not handle out of bounds data, what do i care. |
| 02:54.21 | Arrowmaster | i have seen GM's on GM island before! |
| 02:54.21 | ckknight | vhaarr: well, if they'll let me on their island so I can test it, I might fix the bug |
| 02:54.27 | ruinna | stupid question-- what does Crayon:GetThresholdHexColorTrivial do? and how can i easily colorize text with rgb vals? |
| 02:54.28 | Ellipsis | vhaarr: no, they just can't use cart_notes on gm island |
| 02:54.29 | vhaarr | haha, ye |
| 02:54.29 | ckknight | oh, also, GMs aren't supposed to run addons |
| 02:54.30 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 02:54.38 | Ellipsis | vhaarr: the tourist bug only happens if you run outside gm island and off the world map |
| 02:54.53 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: I'm sure they do that all the time, chasing eachother around and giggling. |
| 02:54.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no, GM Island is outside of the worldmap Ellipsis |
| 02:54.58 | vhaarr | it would explain the long ticket queue times. |
| 02:55.05 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: your mom |
| 02:55.16 | sag_ich_nicht | it's about -20, -20 i'd say |
| 02:55.18 | Ellipsis | either way |
| 02:55.27 | Chaud | coder smackdown. |
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| 02:55.31 | Ellipsis | don't do stupid shit, and your addons won't complain to you |
| 02:55.35 | Ellipsis | problem solved |
| 02:56.26 | Seerah | also, don't do stupid shit and you won't get suspended/banned |
| 02:56.27 | ckknight | imho, this is like the people who run on private servers and annoy me cause the addons don't work with their custom system |
| 02:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | no Ellipsis, you know what happens in the real world when you code without proper handling of stuff like this? this happens: http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 02:56.46 | NivFreak | wow, pitbull auras is pretty buggy |
| 02:56.54 | NivFreak | can I have altaurs back? :) |
| 02:57.12 | NivFreak | my buffs/debuffs are showing up on the wrong frames randomyl |
| 02:57.12 | Ellipsis | //sag_ich_nicht |
| 02:57.15 | Seerah | "is pretty buggy" doesn't get bugs fixed |
| 02:57.21 | NivFreak | apparently I can sunder myself |
| 02:57.27 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: update |
| 02:57.32 | Ellipsis | that's been fixed for a day or so |
| 02:57.37 | NivFreak | I updated last night |
| 02:57.39 | NivFreak | iirc |
| 02:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:56] <Seerah> also, don't do stupid shit and you won't get suspended/banned <--feel free to report me EU Gul'dan Ruknor, problem is GMs don't give a shit if you didn't get there using teleport or speed hacks |
| 02:57.45 | ckknight | NivFreak: update now. |
| 02:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis fails |
| 02:58.41 | sag_ich_nicht | it works like this Ellipsis: |
| 02:58.48 | sag_ich_nicht | 3//Ellipsis |
| 02:58.59 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: it works like this - if you care so much, fix it yourself; otherwise go die in a fire |
| 02:59.09 | sag_ich_nicht | fff |
| 02:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | *pfff |
| 02:59.22 | Seerah | besides - users have no right to demand that bugs get fixed |
| 02:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ONE day, there will be an addon that manages to cause this bug by accidentially making this out of bounds |
| 02:59.51 | Seerah | if you paid ck's salary, that'd be a different story |
| 02:59.56 | sag_ich_nicht | AND WHEN THAT DAY COMES |
| 03:00.04 | sag_ich_nicht | I will laught in your face! |
| 03:00.11 | Seerah | make what out of bounds? |
| 03:00.16 | Parnic | it's people like you that make me glad be working on free community addons |
| 03:00.20 | Parnic | glad to be* |
| 03:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Seerah: http://pastey.net/82878 |
| 03:01.01 | Parnic | you had a good chance at getting a bug fixed by reporting it in a polite, "i found a bug" manner rather than what you've done here |
| 03:01.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Parnic: i know |
| 03:01.25 | Parnic | now you've ticked everybody off to the point where they won't fix it just to spite you...and i don't blame them |
| 03:01.39 | Parnic | i'm just making sure you at least KNOW how big of a jerk you're coming across as |
| 03:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | i know that already |
| 03:01.57 | Parnic | ok, then don't mind me. |
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| 03:02.42 | Chaud | trolling is very srsbiznass. |
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| 03:03.23 | Seerah | coding free addons for free is serious business |
| 03:03.29 | Sole | srsly |
| 03:04.06 | sag_ich_nicht | this just proves my point that computer programmers who should be able to think logical and don't give a shit about "spite" if it fixes a bug or improves their program, are still too pretentious and arrogant to do so |
| 03:04.38 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: it's not out of spite, at the moment |
| 03:04.44 | Chaud | I am a troll usually, but who cares about a bug that occurs if you go somewhere you are not suppsoed to be =\ |
| 03:04.53 | Ellipsis | he just has better things to do than fix a bug that only happens when you epxloit |
| 03:04.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: everything is about spite, really |
| 03:05.00 | Shirik | Chaud: P->Q does not mean Q->P |
| 03:05.03 | Shirik | Do not confuse the two. |
| 03:05.04 | Ellipsis | he's busy working on chinchilla stuff atm |
| 03:05.23 | Shirik | The fact that it occurs when you go somewhere you are not supposed to be does not mean the bug occuring means that you are not supposed to be there |
| 03:05.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i know, not like i'd mind if it's not fixed |
| 03:05.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: exactly. |
| 03:05.37 | Shirik | That is sag_ich_nicht's point |
| 03:05.49 | sag_ich_nicht | thank you for being sane and logical Shirik. |
| 03:05.51 | Chaud | when does the bug occur when you are in a normal place? |
| 03:05.59 | Ellipsis | if you can give ONE example of it happening anywhere else, I will fix it myself. |
| 03:05.59 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: I'm a computer engineer :) |
| 03:06.00 | Arrowmaster | if its a fix that doesnt negatively effect anything else than it should be fixed |
| 03:06.07 | Shirik | not a software engineer |
| 03:06.10 | Ellipsis | otherwise, wait in line |
| 03:06.11 | Arrowmaster | because bugs are bad |
| 03:06.14 | Seerah | <sag_ich_nicht>i know, not like i'd mind if it's not fixed |
| 03:06.22 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: sure, eventually |
| 03:06.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: yeah. I know |
| 03:06.30 | Sole | Shirik: you make hardware? |
| 03:06.32 | Ellipsis | it just doesn't have a high priority if it's so incredibly rare |
| 03:06.37 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 03:06.38 | Shirik | Sole: I do a lot of things |
| 03:06.44 | Arrowmaster | but its not ignoreable |
| 03:06.46 | Shirik | Mostly the low-level interfacing between hardware and software |
| 03:06.51 | Shirik | which means both hardware and software aspects |
| 03:07.05 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: nobody's ignoring it, he's free to jira the problem and let it rot there |
| 03:07.10 | Sole | sounds kinda fun |
| 03:07.11 | Arrowmaster | i would kill myself if i had to be a software engineer |
| 03:07.14 | Ellipsis | but it's going to be a very, very long time before anyone deals with that issue |
| 03:07.17 | Sole | yet probably frustrating |
| 03:07.27 | Ellipsis | and if sag_ich_nicht wants it fixed so badly he should just do it himself |
| 03:07.54 | Sole | Arrowmaster: whats wrong with software engineer? |
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| 03:08.07 | Arrowmaster | its not my style |
| 03:08.25 | Sole | fair enough |
| 03:08.38 | Arrowmaster | im a network engineer |
| 03:08.39 | Shirik | Sole: Sometimes it's frustrating, sometimes it's fun |
| 03:08.42 | Miyari | Halp! |
| 03:08.48 | Miyari | Are there any mods that show quest IDs in the actual quest window? |
| 03:08.50 | Shirik | like last night, I blew up two transistors, and everyone around me laughed at me |
| 03:08.59 | Shirik | But when it finally worked I was like "in your face" |
| 03:09.00 | Sole | sweet |
| 03:09.09 | Sole | speaking of blowing stuff up |
| 03:09.16 | Sole | I watched a transformer blow up today |
| 03:09.22 | Sole | and not optimus prime transformer |
| 03:09.27 | Sole | the type on a power pole |
| 03:09.38 | Shirik | that's always fun |
| 03:09.41 | Sole | power went out in the whole area |
| 03:09.42 | Orionshock | fun |
| 03:09.52 | Shirik | That's part of the purpose of my circuit |
| 03:10.22 | Shirik | I have a watchdog microcontroller monitoring current, voltage, and a lot of other attributes of the system. When it sends a signal to a device, the power needs to be cut off instantly |
| 03:10.27 | Sole | then fire brigade came and some electricians fixed it |
| 03:10.31 | WobWork | Miyari: LightHeaded? |
| 03:10.32 | Shirik | the problem is by cutting off the power.... the microconroller dies |
| 03:10.38 | Shirik | meaning there's nothing sending the signal anymore |
| 03:10.43 | Shirik | so it needs to remember to leave the power off :) |
| 03:10.49 | Sole | hmm |
| 03:11.12 | WobWork | the watchdog isn't on another circuit? |
| 03:11.13 | Shirik | until the switch is manually turned off and then on by the user |
| 03:11.15 | Shirik | nope |
| 03:11.17 | Shirik | it's on the same circuit |
| 03:11.30 | WobWork | isn't that like locking the dog in the safe? |
| 03:11.38 | Shirik | heh |
| 03:11.39 | Killmore | ckknight: what do you did to pitbull ? the font on my unitframe has changed :( |
| 03:11.46 | WobWork | . o ( *arf* ) |
| 03:11.53 | Ellipsis | Killmore: just set it again |
| 03:11.57 | Shirik | not really -- by putting it inside, it has direct access to anything it needs to check |
| 03:11.59 | Ellipsis | if you want ABF and it's not in the list, install SharedMedia |
| 03:12.05 | Ellipsis | or Vera Serif |
| 03:12.11 | Shirik | the state of the software, the state of the hardware, whatever |
| 03:12.24 | WobWork | well yes. but as soon as the dog detects any intrusion, it locks itself in and any new air out |
| 03:12.33 | Shirik | yup |
| 03:12.35 | WobWork | . o O ("arf*gasp") |
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| 03:12.50 | Shirik | which is ok because something could concievably go wrong with the watchdog too |
| 03:12.51 | Sole | I love Wob's emotes |
| 03:13.19 | Shirik | the only way to restart the system is user intervention |
| 03:13.30 | Shirik | effectively letting the watchdog out of the "safe" :) |
| 03:13.30 | Shirik | as you call it |
| 03:13.51 | WobWork | well, could be schroedinger's dog |
| 03:13.54 | WobWork | You don't know if the dog's been cut off until you open the safe =) |
| 03:14.23 | Shirik | the fact that it's not barking anymore is a good sign :) |
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| 03:15.44 | WobWork | poor dog =\ |
| 03:15.50 | WobWork | could be a sound proof safe! |
| 03:15.57 | Sole | hmm |
| 03:16.20 | Shirik | no |
| 03:16.24 | Shirik | I have to let him breathe :D |
| 03:16.51 | Miyari | WobWork: That only seems to work with the quest log. |
| 03:16.56 | Miyari | I'm trying to find IDs of quest that never hit the quest log. |
| 03:17.00 | WobWork | That reminds me of the joke with the parrot and the freezer |
| 03:17.09 | WobWork | Miyari: Not sure then |
| 03:17.31 | Miyari | I'll see what I can dig, thanks for trying though. ;) |
| 03:18.16 | Sole | say I have a circle, in a 400x400 grid, with a radius of 200. I want to find the coordinates of a point that is on the circle by specifying a degree (0 to 360). Any ideas? |
| 03:18.47 | Sole | I have a couple ideas of finding which quadrant it is, then creating a triangle and finding point of intersection between circle and triangle |
| 03:18.52 | Sole | but thats not too solid |
| 03:19.29 | WobWork | circumference/360 |
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| 03:19.58 | NightHawkTheSane | isn't there some fancy trig you can do to just use polar coordinates and convert them to cartesian? |
| 03:20.04 | WobWork | then x^2 + y^2 = z^2? |
| 03:20.06 | WobWork | or something |
| 03:20.19 | WobWork | I'm sure you can use the equation of the circle to figure out the x/y coords |
| 03:20.32 | WobWork | +year 10 mathsfu is weak |
| 03:20.59 | Sole | year 10 maths? |
| 03:21.18 | Sole | dont remember covering that |
| 03:21.20 | WobWork | or something =P |
| 03:21.32 | WobWork | cartesian coordinates is around that time maybe |
| 03:21.34 | WobWork | or later |
| 03:21.37 | Sole | later |
| 03:21.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i think i covered polar/cartesian conversions in 11th grade |
| 03:22.16 | Sole | what age is 11th grade? |
| 03:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ~17ish |
| 03:23.17 | Shirik | omg |
| 03:23.20 | Shirik | signals and systems :( |
| 03:23.20 | Shirik | ftl |
| 03:23.31 | Shirik | anyway, yes you can Sole |
| 03:23.39 | Shirik | polar to rectangle coordinates |
| 03:24.13 | Shirik | y = rsin(theta), x = rcos(theta), where theta = 0 to the right |
| 03:24.14 | Shirik | er |
| 03:24.24 | Shirik | well it may be different for wow coordinates, I'd have to think about their coordinate system for a bit |
| 03:24.27 | Shirik | but there you get |
| 03:24.32 | Sole | ty |
| 03:25.08 | Shirik | and then |
| 03:25.25 | Shirik | sin(theta) = Re{e^j*theta + e} |
| 03:25.42 | Shirik | but don't do that :P |
| 03:25.56 | NightHawkTheSane | that causes your head to explode. *nod* |
| 03:26.11 | Sole | yeah |
| 03:26.16 | Shirik | signals and systems = lose |
| 03:26.20 | Shirik | but very necessary :( |
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| 03:26.52 | Sole | is that signals and systems? |
| 03:27.21 | Sole | or is that your comp engineering talk? |
| 03:27.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 03:27.30 | sag_ich_nicht | integrate x/4 |
| 03:27.33 | Shirik | yeah that's CE/EE stuff |
| 03:27.52 | Shirik | !google rotating phasors |
| 03:28.13 | Shirik | ~wiki Phasor (sine waves) |
| 03:28.58 | Sole | ... |
| 03:29.36 | CIA-12 | 03apoco * r62821 10aX_RaidStatus/ (3 files): |
| 03:29.37 | CIA-12 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 03:29.37 | CIA-12 | - New Feature: Scaling/Alpha Settings |
| 03:29.37 | CIA-12 | - Updated: Locals |
| 03:30.43 | Shirik | The deal is that you can represent a sine wave as the addition of two rotating phasors, which rotate in opposite directions to create a conjugate pair |
| 03:31.01 | Shirik | so you don't have to use sine, etc. anymore if you can use complex algebra :) |
| 03:31.37 | Sole | doh |
| 03:31.57 | WobWork | head splodey |
| 03:32.03 | Sole | I know polar and cartesian systems, just never learnt the names :P |
| 03:32.07 | *** part/#wowace Iboong (n=user@77.87.207.194) |
| 03:32.31 | Sole | that IS year 10 stuff wob |
| 03:32.55 | WobWork | ha! |
| 03:33.28 | Gibbonz | most dont care eitherway ;p |
| 03:33.52 | Sole | Ive just always referred to them as degrees and coords |
| 03:33.57 | Sole | which is what they are |
| 03:34.19 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 03:34.25 | Shirik | I got 125/150 on my first signals and systems test |
| 03:34.28 | Shirik | a lot better than I thought I did |
| 03:34.33 | Shirik | lua> 125/150 |
| 03:34.34 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.83333333333333 |
| 03:34.38 | Shirik | I'll take that |
| 03:34.43 | WobWork | grats Shirik |
| 03:34.44 | Shirik | it's 30 points above the class average lol |
| 03:35.30 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r62822 10GnomeCharmer/ (. GnomeCharmer.lua GnomeCharmer.toc): GnomeCharmer: Initial import. Charm your friends with your very own raid icon tagger, the gnome way! Readme included at the top of GnomeCharmer.lua. |
| 03:35.32 | Sole | grats |
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| 03:40.38 | syeren | vhaarr, is there anyway to make a macro save raid icon placement... |
| 03:40.44 | syeren | Like ermm, always make myself star etc... |
| 03:40.54 | syeren | Or an addon to do it :p |
| 03:41.03 | vhaarr | syeren: I'm not sure what it is you want |
| 03:41.14 | vhaarr | is it related to gnomecharmer? |
| 03:41.18 | vhaarr | or just a general question |
| 03:41.26 | syeren | Nope, but you obviously have some knowledge of raid icons :p |
| 03:41.42 | vhaarr | what do you want to save, I don't understand |
| 03:41.54 | syeren | Example, whenever we go in arena, I'm Star, Paladin Square, Warrior Skull, Shaman Moon, Hunter Cross ;p |
| 03:42.03 | syeren | Could you make a macro or anything to automatically assign these? |
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| 03:42.07 | vhaarr | yeah you can put that in a macro |
| 03:42.08 | syeren | Just from one button press ;p |
| 03:42.15 | syeren | Ah, cool :o |
| 03:42.21 | syeren | What exactly am I looking for? |
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| 03:42.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 03:42.37 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:42.54 | vhaarr | I _think_ 'unit' can actually be the player name as well |
| 03:43.18 | CIA-12 | 03ruinna * r62823 10FuBar_WaypointsFu/ (8 files in 3 dirs): FuBar_WaypointsFu: initial commit |
| 03:46.35 | syeren | Awesome, thanks. |
| 03:48.08 | Chaud | should add the auto marking to proximo =p |
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| 03:49.37 | CIA-12 | 03peragor * r62824 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 03:49.37 | CIA-12 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 03:49.37 | CIA-12 | - Switched from string.gmatch to string.find for the potential pets part. This fixes a very minor bug I introduced. |
| 03:50.11 | Sole | SetRaidTarget = raid icon? |
| 03:50.17 | Benumbed | yes |
| 03:52.14 | Shirik | there's also a SetRaidTargetIcon |
| 03:52.21 | Shirik | they do two slightly different things |
| 03:52.41 | Sole | yeah I know what raid target is |
| 03:52.43 | Sole | was just confused |
| 03:52.45 | Sole | makes a lot more sense now |
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| 03:54.31 | syeren | What exactly is the difference? |
| 03:54.48 | NeuroPulse | Greetting. Second time here. Was here yesterday. |
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| 03:55.22 | NeuroPulse | How does one view warcraft graphic files like I see on wowhead. 2D and 3D? |
| 03:55.33 | NeuroPulse | Is there a program? |
| 03:55.41 | NeuroPulse | ARe they in a standard format? |
| 03:56.09 | syeren | Get WoWModelViewer :p |
| 03:56.33 | syeren | http://www.wowmodelviewer.org/ |
| 03:59.27 | CIA-12 | 03ruinna * r62825 10FuBar_WaypointsFu/ (FuBar_WaypointsFu.toc embeds.xml libs/): FuBar_WaypointsFu: updated svn:externals / embeds.xml / toc |
| 04:01.01 | Chaud | what about reading actual information from the DBC files in the MPQ |
| 04:02.44 | NeuroPulse | Wahoo! It works! Thanks. |
| 04:03.55 | NeuroPulse | Now, can you edit a model? |
| 04:04.24 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r62826 10GnomeCharmer/GnomeCharmer.lua: GnomeCharmer: Mark icons on dead mobs as available. |
| 04:04.59 | Killmore | you can mark dead mobs ?! |
| 04:05.29 | vhaarr | you can mark them before you kill them |
| 04:05.37 | [dRaCo] | nope, but dead mobs keep their marks |
| 04:07.32 | syeren | http://media-shack.net/files/6162_07t3y/WoWScrnShot_021808_220204.jpg |
| 04:07.35 | syeren | Yummy >_< |
| 04:08.35 | NeuroPulse | I would like to replace some models. |
| 04:08.59 | Chaud | what texture are on those UF? |
| 04:09.03 | Chaud | *is |
| 04:09.18 | syeren | No idea Chaud, it's oUF. |
| 04:09.21 | vhaarr | Look, we'd all like naked elves and humans, but it's against the TOS or whatever, so don't go there. |
| 04:09.41 | Chaud | naked female undead? hmm. |
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| 04:14.00 | Sole | strange, no API doc on SetFormattedText on WoWWiki |
| 04:14.01 | mathuin | A recent update to pitbull seems to have added main assist (and target, and target's target) and focus (etc). How do I hide those windows? |
| 04:14.16 | mathuin | Can't see how to disable them. |
| 04:14.57 | Sole | enter the options |
| 04:15.03 | NeuroPulse | But I wan't my own Wow nudist server! |
| 04:15.05 | Sole | find said frames, hit the big disable button |
| 04:15.11 | mathuin | "big disable button", huh. |
| 04:15.26 | Sole | something along the lines of "Enable this frame" tick yes/no |
| 04:15.29 | NeoTron | anyone know how stable the PTR is? |
| 04:15.35 | Sole | havent used pitbull in a while |
| 04:15.41 | Sole | but thats what I >think< it was :P |
| 04:15.43 | Benumbed | click on Main Assist on left menu and click the disable thingie |
| 04:15.54 | mathuin | Logging out and back in shows this disable checkbox. |
| 04:16.01 | mathuin | Thank you. :-) |
| 04:17.33 | NeuroPulse | What is a tar ball? |
| 04:17.56 | Benumbed | linux zip basically |
| 04:18.50 | Ellipsis | >:( |
| 04:23.32 | Gibbonz | a more detailed description is that its an uncompressed archive file, created by the GNU Tar program ;) |
| 04:24.17 | vhaarr | doesn't matter to a windows user if a tar ball is compressed or not, winrar/winzip/etc treat them all the same |
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| 04:24.28 | vhaarr | s/treat/present/ |
| 04:24.59 | Gibbonz | aye |
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| 04:25.25 | keiss | another point is that it in no way has to be made by a *GNU* tar ;) |
| 04:25.38 | vulture_ | anyone know where (like what variable) is the 'amount' value for SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE actually stored |
| 04:25.59 | Gibbonz | indeed.. but I'll hazard a guess most are ;p |
| 04:26.13 | vhaarr | keiss: I can't think of any alternative implementations to libtar, which ones are there? |
| 04:28.40 | keiss | iam pretty sure BSD implementation, also pretty sure plan9 has its own, ... |
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| 04:36.18 | vhaarr | yeah you're probably right, bsd must have their own implementation |
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| 04:36.58 | keiss | not to mention proprietary unix systems .. |
| 04:37.09 | vhaarr | they can just use the bsd impl |
| 04:37.42 | keiss | they can, now :) ... anyway , i was just messing with Gibbonz :) |
| 04:38.31 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 04:38.53 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.02 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.09 | Ellipsis | me three |
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| 04:39.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 04:40.02 | vhaarr | someone test my gnomecharmer soon, I'm not raiding again until wednesday >< |
| 04:40.36 | keiss | vhaarr: is that something like Jude ? |
| 04:40.44 | Ellipsis | I'll do your dirty work for you if you do mine for me |
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| 04:41.29 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: I have my own dishes and clothes to wash already, I'd rather not do more, but .. will there be panties involved? |
| 04:41.55 | vhaarr | keiss: I've never tried Jude |
| 04:42.18 | Ellipsis | vhaarr: well I do tend to wear panties so yes, they must be washed at some point |
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| 04:42.29 | vhaarr | keiss: but I'm sure my addon pwns it |
| 04:43.30 | keiss | vhaarr: iam not exactly sure what u mean by raid-icon tagger, if its something like Jude ill give it a try ;) |
| 04:43.36 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: interesting, but I'm afraid it sounds like a bad deal for you, mail tends to get lost all the time crossing the atlantic |
| 04:43.45 | vhaarr | I can't guarantee your clothes |
| 04:44.08 | Ellipsis | I haven't had issues losing mail overseas tbh |
| 04:44.17 | Ellipsis | I have however had issues losing my panties to strange men |
| 04:44.24 | Ellipsis | so that could perhaps be a more likely problem |
| 04:44.52 | vhaarr | I tend to use shifty courier services from people who don't really advertise their business in the local paper, and they "lose" things. |
| 04:45.20 | drc|away | sounds like you're ok with losing your panties to men you know |
| 04:45.44 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: there are no strange men living near me, so it's no problem. |
| 04:46.14 | CIA-12 | 03quezacolt * r62830 10Checklist2/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:46.14 | CIA-12 | Checklist2: |
| 04:46.14 | CIA-12 | - List sharing between players done, WTB testers! XD Option to send is in the dropdown in the list menu. |
| 04:46.26 | vhaarr | keiss: okay cool, just throw me a PM if you have any feedback |
| 04:46.31 | vhaarr | there's a readme at the top of the lua file |
| 04:47.33 | vhaarr | keiss: so, eh, Jude is just a bar with all the icons on it? |
| 04:47.53 | keiss | yep |
| 04:48.19 | vhaarr | then GnomeCharmer beats it hands down! |
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| 04:48.59 | keiss | has to be a one-click solution thou ... speed > all is what i look for in this kind of addon :) |
| 04:49.13 | vhaarr | yeah it has the same features as jude + more |
| 04:49.15 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62831 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - only clear cache out of combat and gc at said point if needed. |
| 04:49.16 | vhaarr | with less lines of code |
| 04:49.25 | keiss | thats why blizzard UI sux so much for raid icons .. |
| 04:50.06 | vhaarr | just read the top of the lua file so you'll see how things work |
| 04:50.15 | keiss | sure |
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| 04:50.40 | vhaarr | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GnomeCharmer/GnomeCharmer.lua |
| 04:51.21 | basslingo | howdy people |
| 04:52.11 | basslingo | did anyone notice if in the 2.4 patch notes if they fixed the warrior glitch to where we cant battle/commanding shout after rezzing in a bg |
| 04:53.26 | keiss | vhaarr: iam a healer and the radial menu approach sux when ur mostly confined to unit frames :) ... but i will try the bar part of it (like the dimmed icon idea) |
| 04:54.21 | vhaarr | keiss: maybe I could make it open the radial menu on unit frame double-click as well |
| 04:55.16 | Chaud | basslingo: it isnt a bug |
| 04:55.26 | basslingo | it sure is -.- |
| 04:55.32 | basslingo | we can do it at the begining |
| 04:55.39 | basslingo | why the hell cant we do it once we rez |
| 04:56.03 | xyu | I don't believe they are the same buff. The beginning is a preperation buff |
| 04:56.10 | xyu | The one after a rez is called something different |
| 04:56.28 | Chaud | there was a blue post somewhere about it |
| 04:56.29 | Chaud | not a bug |
| 04:56.40 | basslingo | i must find that post then |
| 04:57.49 | Chaud | http://www.wowblues.com/us/warrior-shouts-after-rez-in-bgs-2968666073.html |
| 04:58.21 | kebinusan | wow Im such a tool |
| 04:58.34 | xyu | average variaty garden ho? |
| 04:58.35 | kebinusan | I forgot to loot my set piece from azgalor |
| 04:58.46 | kebinusan | didnt notice till after the corpse despawned |
| 04:59.11 | keiss | vhaarr: from the core .. it doesnt have an explicit unmark 'icon' , does it ? |
| 04:59.14 | keiss | code* |
| 04:59.34 | vhaarr | keiss: they are all toggles, what do you mean? |
| 04:59.42 | vhaarr | click an icon twice and it goes off |
| 04:59.45 | Bruners | comments on my latest ui setup http://ui.ipwn.se/i/168.jpg |
| 05:00.08 | keiss | vhaarr: yeah ... thats what i like about Jude it has an explicit unmark icon .. i dont have to think about what to click to unmark it |
| 05:00.50 | vhaarr | keiss: okay, I can add that in |
| 05:01.14 | keiss | vhaarr: maybe iam a weid case , dunno :) .. but i use that alot |
| 05:01.30 | vhaarr | it's not weird |
| 05:02.05 | Miyari | Bruners: panels! |
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| 05:02.39 | xyu | what is Jude? |
| 05:03.01 | keiss | raid icon menu/bar |
| 05:03.28 | xyu | ah |
| 05:04.12 | Miyari | Bruners: What chat window addon is that? |
| 05:04.21 | Miyari | With the channel tabs visible as such? |
| 05:05.00 | Bruners | its called fane, made by haste |
| 05:05.40 | [Liquidor] | http://www.knickerpicker.com/dressing-room.asp :> have fun (found by robotusch) |
| 05:06.09 | Bruners | Miyari: http://wow-haste.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Fane/ |
| 05:06.49 | Miyari | does it affect just tabs or log as well? |
| 05:06.59 | Bruners | just tabs |
| 05:07.09 | Miyari | what are you using for chat? |
| 05:07.12 | Miyari | i like the tabs :O |
| 05:08.48 | Bruners | chat is mumble and some prat |
| 05:09.41 | Miyari | it looks nice |
| 05:09.43 | Miyari | i wish i could SEE |
| 05:09.54 | Miyari | my chat log is so few lines because the font is larger |
| 05:10.15 | xyu | I wish i had a bigger monitor :P |
| 05:10.25 | Bruners | i have two monitors :P |
| 05:10.31 | xyu | or if wow supported dual monitor, have all my info / ui elements on my second monitor hah. |
| 05:10.31 | Miyari | i do too :( |
| 05:10.34 | Miyari | i still can't read rofl |
| 05:10.53 | xyu | i'm running 2 monitors, but they're 2 19" |
| 05:11.06 | Miyari | same |
| 05:11.08 | xyu | 1280x1024 which isn't too bad |
| 05:11.12 | xyu | but it's no 22" widescreen |
| 05:11.17 | Bruners | one 23" ws and one 19" ws |
| 05:11.22 | Orionshock | ... wtb IsOnline('name') func |
| 05:11.25 | Miyari | i'm running two 19" ws |
| 05:11.38 | Miyari | http://www.nordrassil.org/awooga.jpg |
| 05:11.47 | Miyari | 5 line chatlog = fail :( |
| 05:12.06 | Miyari | i had to expand the log out of the frame to play trivia lol http://www.nordrassil.org/trivia.jpg |
| 05:13.32 | xyu | Welp, i think im going to format my computer tonight. For no reason other than to clean shit up. |
| 05:14.14 | xyu | Not looking forward to the 20g Age of conan beta download though. oh well. |
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| 05:14.43 | Bruners | why remove your games when reinstalling? |
| 05:15.14 | xyu | How do i back up that? |
| 05:15.16 | WobWork | with lack of backup, comes great reinstalling |
| 05:15.20 | basslingo | lol Chaud, i went looking for it and didnt see u posted it for me |
| 05:15.20 | basslingo | thanks ^^ |
| 05:15.39 | xyu | My only means of backup is my 4gb dvd's :D |
| 05:15.44 | Bruners | xyu: have two disks/partitions? |
| 05:16.05 | xyu | i'm running Raid-0, but i do have 2 partition |
| 05:16.49 | xyu | just drag-drop them onto the other partition? heh |
| 05:18.08 | Chaud | yeah I would have said more, but I got up and went to eat a sandwhich =p |
| 05:18.30 | Bruners | Miyari: do i see 5x legendary's in that screenshot? |
| 05:18.44 | Bruners | 6x |
| 05:20.00 | Bruners | getting legendary's is not what it used to be |
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| 05:21.52 | Chaud | oh noes. pre-bc nostalgia inc. |
| 05:22.07 | Orionshock | any way to get WIM to just ignore ppl's wispers? |
| 05:22.21 | Bruners | ignore them ?:P |
| 05:22.26 | Orionshock | can't guildies |
| 05:22.33 | Chaud | rofl |
| 05:22.35 | Bruners | why do you want WIM to ignore whispers? |
| 05:22.42 | Bruners | why have WIM in the first place then |
| 05:24.11 | Bruners | what module of prat is handling itemlinking in custom channels? |
| 05:24.57 | mikma | yes |
| 05:25.21 | Antiarc | ChatLink |
| 05:26.29 | robotusch | Liquidor, you're welcome ;P |
| 05:27.35 | Antiarc | What's the camera max distance cvar? |
| 05:27.59 | Shirik | cameraDistanceMax |
| 05:28.08 | Shirik | turn on your console, makes it so much easier to do things :D |
| 05:30.00 | robotusch | sigh, I'm getting short term memory loss here :( |
| 05:30.01 | Orionshock | how Shirik ? |
| 05:30.20 | Shirik | start up wow with -console |
| 05:30.45 | Antiarc | If you use -console, though, you can't get the good ending |
| 05:31.20 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:31.31 | robotusch | set hs in Astranaar, flew to Darnassus, traded some stuff in & out of gbank, create some items to level tradeskills & then hs back |
| 05:31.46 | robotusch | .. and now I'm flying to Darnassus again to do what I actually meant to: Train skills >_< |
| 05:32.30 | Antiarc | Pringles cans are size-ist. |
| 05:32.41 | Antiarc | I can't get my hand more than a third of the way down one |
| 05:35.07 | Miyari | develop a tool to extract the pringles |
| 05:35.09 | Miyari | perhaps some sort of hand extension |
| 05:36.18 | robotusch | I usually just go bottoms up & try to grab whatever comes hurling out |
| 05:36.27 | Miyari | that's the spirit! |
| 05:36.30 | Miyari | embrace life, robotusch |
| 05:36.43 | robotusch | All I'm embracing atm are those knicker models! |
| 05:36.48 | Miyari | LOL |
| 05:36.48 | kebinusan | can you loop through targets with a /script line in a macro.. like if I wanted to lifebloom 4 targets pressing the same button each time but switching targets |
| 05:36.54 | Miyari | Are you still on that? :( |
| 05:37.11 | robotusch | Of course, it's hours worth of fun for nearly the whole family |
| 05:37.38 | robotusch | and besides, the morning tv shows over here are usually crap, so nothing else on that's worth watching |
| 05:37.50 | Miyari | i watched law & order SVU all day |
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| 05:37.56 | Miyari | so now i clean my head out with home improvement |
| 05:38.01 | Miyari | so i don't have nightmares : |
| 05:38.06 | Miyari | :< |
| 05:40.04 | Xinhuan | drat, 20 more minutes to the time of my assignment due date |
| 05:40.21 | Xinhuan | time to kill myself now |
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| 05:47.29 | Poul|Raider | Nandini, around ? |
| 05:48.07 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: can i have your account if your going to do that |
| 05:48.24 | Orionshock | :) |
| 05:49.27 | Poul|Raider | or anyone els into sql, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57300/ When i execute those and look at the execution plan. I get Query cost(Relative to the batch) : 43% and 57% for the second. "relative to the batch" is that relative to what i wrote, or can i use it to compair the 2 querys to see which one is best? |
| 05:50.00 | Shirik | wtf is "GO" |
| 05:50.03 | Shirik | I've never seen that before |
| 05:51.32 | Poul|Raider | 2 querys executed |
| 05:51.35 | Poul|Raider | separating em |
| 05:51.43 | Poul|Raider | sql management studio |
| 05:52.29 | Shirik | separating them? |
| 05:52.31 | Shirik | w/e :P |
| 05:52.39 | Shirik | not going to pretend to understand |
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| 05:53.50 | Poul|Raider | it execute the 2 querys separatly and show result for both of them in 2 different windows |
| 05:53.58 | [Liquidor] | Poul|Raider 1st query is your option |
| 05:54.17 | [Liquidor] | so how's Borked doing? |
| 05:54.18 | Poul|Raider | just noticed that i actuly could see the cost of the 2 quryes |
| 05:54.37 | Antiarc | ISQL or GTFO >_> |
| 05:54.40 | Poul|Raider | so found out the first :) but borked doing ok, and you know who we are? :( |
| 05:54.43 | Poul|Raider | scary |
| 05:54.51 | [Liquidor] | Well you're doing 1 less call in the 1st query |
| 05:55.06 | [Liquidor] | borked eu? |
| 05:55.10 | Poul|Raider | yes |
| 05:55.18 | [Liquidor] | I played with tempest long time ago, mainly with Fs |
| 05:55.23 | Poul|Raider | lol! |
| 05:55.30 | Poul|Raider | fs never been a tempest guy |
| 05:55.39 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 05:55.43 | [Liquidor] | then united, don't remember really, just remember playing around with him a lot |
| 05:55.48 | Poul|Raider | ye :) |
| 05:55.54 | Poul|Raider | hes still leading :) |
| 05:56.16 | [Liquidor] | then borked came along and I remember Valo something or w/e priest name is joined :) |
| 05:56.16 | Poul|Raider | what nick you used back then? |
| 05:56.24 | [Liquidor] | or not Valo uhm |
| 05:56.42 | [Liquidor] | some polish guy |
| 05:56.44 | [Liquidor] | or greek |
| 05:56.46 | Poul|Raider | Nhiha ha :D |
| 05:56.48 | Poul|Raider | hahah |
| 05:56.51 | [Liquidor] | ye :) |
| 05:56.54 | Poul|Raider | hes also still around :D |
| 05:56.57 | [Liquidor] | I was lmao when he joined :> |
| 05:57.04 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 05:57.35 | Poul|Raider | Can trust him in any way, but could slack less or play better |
| 05:57.36 | robotusch | pft, Semper DKDK > all those RC guilds |
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| 05:57.45 | [Liquidor] | his old guild and my guild played together for a long time, taught him a lot then he joined borked (or tempest) :> |
| 05:58.03 | Poul|Raider | nhiha was united guy when we made borked |
| 05:58.04 | aestil | hey little girl. |
| 05:58.07 | aestil | you transfered? |
| 05:58.18 | [Liquidor] | gah well I can't remember who was in which of those 2 |
| 05:58.21 | Ellipsis | not yet :< |
| 05:58.22 | Poul|Raider | tempest was the guid created by the people that leaved united in the start |
| 05:58.24 | Ellipsis | stuff came up |
| 05:58.34 | [Liquidor] | mainly why I can't remember each |
| 05:58.41 | Poul|Raider | and then borked merged up from the best of united/tempest |
| 05:58.47 | robotusch | United & PE teaparties <3 |
| 05:58.48 | Poul|Raider | and now we are mainly united people left |
| 05:58.57 | [Liquidor] | kk |
| 05:59.10 | robotusch | hm, was Jorodane i borked or not? can't remember :< |
| 05:59.36 | Poul|Raider | think he was |
| 05:59.39 | Poul|Raider | abit on/off |
| 05:59.48 | robotusch | btw Liqui, what guild are you in now? I've lost count by now xD |
| 05:59.59 | [Liquidor] | I migrated with NA |
| 06:00.16 | [Liquidor] | back in Naxx |
| 06:00.19 | robotusch | yeah, I know you were with Golddiggers & then Africa United |
| 06:00.21 | Poul|Raider | join our new homepage when it go live in the upcoming week! |
| 06:00.22 | Poul|Raider | lol |
| 06:00.26 | Poul|Raider | cool stuff to happen |
| 06:00.32 | robotusch | yeah, he played over the summer, then gave up since he had school |
| 06:00.38 | robotusch | that lasted about a month, then he started a warr |
| 06:00.40 | kadrahil | any shadowpriests around |
| 06:00.50 | [Liquidor] | Who are you talking about robotusch? me? |
| 06:00.57 | robotusch | nah, Jorodane |
| 06:01.00 | [Liquidor] | arh kk |
| 06:01.25 | [Liquidor] | I played with NA till new year then started up gold diggers and made a fortune till TBC came where I didn't play for 3 months |
| 06:01.32 | robotusch | He's a friend of mine and I get plenty of fun out of mocking him, every time he says he's going to quit WoW |
| 06:01.38 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 06:01.53 | robotusch | He's up to quitting 4 or 5 times by now |
| 06:01.58 | [Liquidor] | Poul|Raider, pm me if you need any help |
| 06:02.10 | [Liquidor] | Morfar still around? |
| 06:02.14 | Poul|Raider | ye, might do :) sql aint what i am best at |
| 06:02.15 | robotusch | I think he quit |
| 06:02.20 | robotusch | to get a job *gasp* |
| 06:02.23 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 06:02.29 | Poul|Raider | morfar, kinda deleted our homepage and vent MIA |
| 06:02.30 | [Liquidor] | well he did play a year without |
| 06:02.41 | robotusch | yeah, on his hunter right? |
| 06:02.45 | Poul|Raider | so not the most popular guy any longer |
| 06:02.49 | [Liquidor] | MIA? |
| 06:02.51 | Poul|Raider | he rolled to mage at the end |
| 06:02.53 | [Liquidor] | a guild or military? |
| 06:02.57 | robotusch | yeah, Cellardoor iirc |
| 06:03.00 | Poul|Raider | Missing in action |
| 06:03.05 | [Liquidor] | wtf is that? |
| 06:03.21 | robotusch | guessing noone know what happened to him |
| 06:03.22 | [Liquidor] | I spoke with him 3 weeks ago |
| 06:03.40 | [Liquidor] | didn't notice which guild he was in and didn't care |
| 06:03.51 | [Liquidor] | I still got the AQ opening of RC video |
| 06:04.01 | robotusch | I remember that opening, bloody legendary lahg |
| 06:04.02 | robotusch | lag* |
| 06:04.05 | [Liquidor] | Me among 300 horde and /follow on Morfar :) |
| 06:04.17 | [Liquidor] | and some newbie rank 4 rogue on me constantly |
| 06:04.26 | Poul|Raider | i can tell your my point of view, he might look at it in a different way. But after a fuckup got pointed out he become abit emo and quited and never saw him, then 1month lator he was online for a few hours and the day after our homepage/forum was deleted, and we never saw him until afew weeks ago |
| 06:04.27 | robotusch | especially the zonewide shout breaking, so it was $n |
| 06:04.53 | Poul|Raider | We called the host to ask, and they said it was been requested by the owner |
| 06:04.58 | Poul|Raider | but shit happens |
| 06:05.01 | robotusch | I can still remember the drama over Demon (I think?) ninjaing Broodlord's head |
| 06:05.06 | Poul|Raider | .D |
| 06:05.06 | [Liquidor] | no attention makes people mad |
| 06:05.12 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 06:05.15 | Poul|Raider | yes |
| 06:05.15 | [Liquidor] | and with power they can show that |
| 06:05.22 | [Liquidor] | and they will |
| 06:05.30 | Poul|Raider | i got powers to! |
| 06:05.34 | Poul|Raider | dont mean i use em for that |
| 06:05.37 | robotusch | I have the vids with moffe tanking Kazzak & Onyxia somewhere |
| 06:05.39 | [Liquidor] | right ;> |
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| 06:06.00 | [Liquidor] | Poul|Raider, I'm sure you used your power to get UID = 1 !1!!?!!?1 amirite?!?!+1 |
| 06:06.04 | robotusch | heck, I even have videos from the early days of Boulderfist (legendary if you ask me!) |
| 06:06.04 | keiss | any idea what replaced CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS in 2.4 ? |
| 06:06.10 | Poul|Raider | i only look over all the users passwords every day to see if i can log into their accounts! |
| 06:06.23 | [Liquidor] | robotusch, I got a vid of me and another shadow priest doing a lava annhiliator |
| 06:06.33 | Poul|Raider | Actuly i did not but it aint going live yet |
| 06:06.34 | [Liquidor] | 2 years old at least |
| 06:06.38 | robotusch | :D |
| 06:06.39 | Poul|Raider | wiping the db when its done |
| 06:06.45 | Poul|Raider | so then i get uid = 1 |
| 06:06.53 | [Liquidor] | link |
| 06:07.06 | Poul|Raider | only have some not finish photshop file |
| 06:07.09 | [Liquidor] | 100% custom? |
| 06:07.15 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 06:07.20 | [Liquidor] | kk |
| 06:07.22 | Poul|Raider | http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4707/borked2008layoutreadyfoml3.jpg |
| 06:07.29 | Poul|Raider | but not finish |
| 06:07.36 | Poul|Raider | working on the backbone off the forum |
| 06:07.50 | [Liquidor] | Same borring sidemenu as always on borked.eu :) |
| 06:08.01 | Poul|Raider | .( |
| 06:08.08 | robotusch | :D |
| 06:08.15 | Poul|Raider | where you think i stole it from |
| 06:08.22 | Poul|Raider | but actuly have made something new |
| 06:08.31 | Poul|Raider | just not on that link |
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| 06:09.04 | Poul|Raider | but sure gonna be better then the borkedguild.net page |
| 06:09.18 | [Liquidor] | wts .content{padding-left -100000em} btw |
| 06:09.51 | Poul|Raider | :( not understanding |
| 06:10.07 | Poul|Raider | it was a image you saw |
| 06:10.12 | [Liquidor] | Oh you're quite few in the guild now |
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| 06:10.23 | Poul|Raider | 25 core players |
| 06:10.31 | Poul|Raider | been that for as long as i rememember |
| 06:10.35 | [Liquidor] | Arh Vira it was as well :) *rofl* |
| 06:10.41 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 06:10.52 | Poul|Raider | vira is the best priest ever :) |
| 06:10.56 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62832 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make *-rightclick on unit frames properly open to the proper menu again. |
| 06:10.56 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62833 10Chinchilla/Appearance/Appearance.lua: Chinchilla_Appearance - fix border appearance for square shape and rotating minimap |
| 06:10.57 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r62836 10GnomeCharmer/GnomeCharmer.lua: |
| 06:11.01 | CIA-12 | GnomeCharmer: |
| 06:11.03 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.05 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.06 | Poul|Raider | cant say if he was back then |
| 06:11.07 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.09 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62837 10Chinchilla/MoveButtons/MoveButtons.lua: Chinchilla_MoveButtons - simplify some code |
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| 06:11.23 | Poul|Raider | but you will have to look long to find a priest with his dedication and performens |
| 06:11.27 | ckknight | CIA's slow |
| 06:11.28 | robotusch | hm, looks like I have an old borked in bwl vid :S |
| 06:11.40 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62838 10CowTip/Position/Position.lua: CowTip_Position - add in manual x/y adjust sliders |
| 06:11.40 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r62839 10GnomeCharmer/GnomeCharmer.lua: GnomeCharmer: Make the bar show if you're assistant as well. |
| 06:11.40 | Poul|Raider | but he have a temperament that kick ass |
| 06:11.48 | vhaarr | ckknight: seems like it skipped a few commits as well |
| 06:11.51 | vhaarr | 33-36 |
| 06:11.54 | [Liquidor] | [07:07:21] [Poul|Raider] vira is the best priest ever :) --- pfft |
| 06:11.59 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 06:12.22 | robotusch | Ag > vira |
| 06:12.23 | robotusch | ! |
| 06:12.26 | Poul|Raider | But we did the world fasted teron last week :) |
| 06:12.41 | Poul|Raider | so starting good, we have had break since newyear |
| 06:12.49 | Poul|Raider | and 6 undergeared/new people |
| 06:12.50 | [Liquidor] | Liq > all |
| 06:13.17 | robotusch | noes |
| 06:13.41 | Poul|Raider | We changed our goal abit, going down to 3days aweek and aiming for the same raidsetup each time, based on classes |
| 06:13.51 | Poul|Raider | payed off big time in terms of dps |
| 06:14.00 | robotusch | although I will concede, ag is probably more likely to bug me to join a raid group to test out various new functions in whatever addon he's coding :P |
| 06:14.00 | Poul|Raider | retri pala and moonkinnn lOOOOLLL |
| 06:14.13 | [Liquidor] | is ag eu? |
| 06:14.20 | robotusch | yeah |
| 06:14.40 | [Liquidor] | Poul|Raider, ofc. Go with 20 dps and 1 healer. |
| 06:14.42 | robotusch | old Ravencrest & Boulderfist player no less ;P |
| 06:14.58 | [Liquidor] | oh he's on BF too |
| 06:15.03 | robotusch | was |
| 06:15.15 | Poul|Raider | Liquidor, thats actuly what we did not |
| 06:15.15 | [Liquidor] | Last Resort and Forte is now |
| 06:15.20 | Poul|Raider | we have our 7healer setup |
| 06:15.22 | robotusch | transferred back to ravencrest with Hyrma |
| 06:15.35 | robotusch | on Kazzak atm |
| 06:15.40 | Poul|Raider | not doing like others and gimping our self to 3healers to win wws |
| 06:15.50 | [Liquidor] | Poul|Raider, it was a joke |
| 06:15.53 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 06:15.55 | [Liquidor] | Ever done anything with 1 healer? |
| 06:15.55 | robotusch | :P |
| 06:16.00 | Poul|Raider | .D |
| 06:16.01 | Poul|Raider | no |
| 06:16.15 | Poul|Raider | but our healers current could be counted as 3 even tho there are 7 |
| 06:16.20 | [Liquidor] | KZ and GL sure but not 25 |
| 06:16.38 | Poul|Raider | we could use some realy good healers on some spots |
| 06:16.52 | [Liquidor] | Too bad I'm not there and geared for it |
| 06:16.56 | Poul|Raider | but think the issues are abit lack of concentration |
| 06:17.06 | Poul|Raider | :) our priest situation is kinda good |
| 06:17.17 | [Liquidor] | until you see me in action |
| 06:17.21 | robotusch | Too bad I'm on Kazzak & crappy geared :P |
| 06:17.24 | [Liquidor] | *BOOM* healshot |
| 06:17.30 | Poul|Raider | would have to kick nhiha to make room for one more, and would be hard to kick a guy who have been there 100% for hte guild for 3years |
| 06:17.56 | robotusch | + he made your BWL vid! |
| 06:18.03 | [Liquidor] | lal |
| 06:18.20 | robotusch | nothing like seeing "<CTRaid> Aborted spell: Flash Heal" again ;P |
| 06:18.41 | Poul|Raider | properly one of hte good things with borked, havent realy kicked anyone those 2years except for retards |
| 06:18.46 | Poul|Raider | and they left them self |
| 06:18.54 | [Liquidor] | you actually had such? |
| 06:18.57 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 06:19.10 | [Liquidor] | lool you got Laviaala too :> |
| 06:19.16 | [Liquidor] | Laaviala* |
| 06:19.17 | Poul|Raider | polish team :D |
| 06:19.30 | Poul|Raider | Loyality pays off :) |
| 06:19.38 | [Liquidor] | ye ino them :) |
| 06:20.35 | Poul|Raider | but lucky wow dont seam to become as hard as it was in naxx, seeing all the kids complete content, so think we will surviev with a bad player or 2 |
| 06:20.48 | [Liquidor] | "(Primarily interested in a Paladin, though other classes might be considered if they are exceptionally good.)" |
| 06:20.56 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 06:20.59 | Poul|Raider | old post :D |
| 06:21.10 | Poul|Raider | was from raiding 5days aweek |
| 06:21.13 | Poul|Raider | new goals now |
| 06:21.15 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 06:21.21 | robotusch | < zomg Paladin! |
| 06:21.35 | Poul|Raider | the cows was mooing something |
| 06:21.45 | Poul|Raider | about you |
| 06:21.49 | [Liquidor] | Where's Rimmon and Coolyo? |
| 06:21.53 | Sole | yay |
| 06:22.04 | Poul|Raider | coolyo sold his account to get money for more crack |
| 06:22.12 | robotusch | like Hyrma then :( |
| 06:22.15 | Poul|Raider | rimmon rerolled and is tanking in another guild |
| 06:22.29 | [Liquidor] | healers are the best tanks |
| 06:22.50 | [Liquidor] | they know more than the tank and will do better when time comes |
| 06:23.03 | Poul|Raider | hyrma got offended when i looled at him saying if he expected that i would say yes to borrow my account |
| 06:23.14 | Poul|Raider | told him he should think about not selling his account if he wanted to paly! |
| 06:23.16 | Poul|Raider | play |
| 06:23.20 | robotusch | :P |
| 06:23.33 | Poul|Raider | and then there was "bad mood" on vt and he looged off |
| 06:23.48 | robotusch | he was probably just emo about losing out on some fat cash |
| 06:23.53 | Poul|Raider | haha |
| 06:24.02 | Poul|Raider | i got no idea about the situation so |
| 06:24.11 | robotusch | hell, if he had sold his acc over the summer, he could have levelled + geared a new one in the same time :P |
| 06:24.16 | [Liquidor] | I've played since closed beta and I've never been in a guild that meet my needs :( |
| 06:24.28 | Poul|Raider | Not realy useing much time talking with people who have sold their accounts! |
| 06:24.42 | Poul|Raider | borked is the best guild! |
| 06:24.50 | robotusch | meh, atm I'm 3 for 3 in joining guilds for 25-man raids & then disbanding when people cba to show up for them |
| 06:25.14 | Poul|Raider | guess im lucky :) |
| 06:25.28 | Poul|Raider | played with the same people since start off wow |
| 06:25.37 | Poul|Raider | or well when i joined united |
| 06:25.40 | robotusch | was in a pretty cool guild though kz, good tanks, healers etc etc, then the first 25-man raid pops up - and at most, 11 people were online & ready for the raid |
| 06:25.43 | [Liquidor] | showing up isn't the issue imo (ofc it is but not as prio), but playing with casuals is. |
| 06:26.06 | [Liquidor] | I've yet to be in a raid with 25/25 players that aim to be the best. |
| 06:26.14 | Poul|Raider | Thats also what i like about borked, high expections to everyone :) |
| 06:26.31 | [Liquidor] | robotusch, that happens all the time |
| 06:26.34 | robotusch | one hunter logs on, gets raid invite, declines, gets pissy over that he don't want to do 25-man raids & how the guild couldn't expect him to join etc etc & then gets the kick |
| 06:26.49 | Poul|Raider | kinda the way of thinking we got most of us, tho not the best in the way we want to clear it first because that makes us look best |
| 06:26.50 | robotusch | I know, but after the third /gdisband, I'm starting to get a bit annoyed |
| 06:26.51 | [Liquidor] | robotusch, it's a bet. You choose a guild and hope for it to convert succesfully |
| 06:27.25 | aestil | i hate SML |
| 06:29.32 | aestil | Ellipsis: you should write your own addon and get ckk to commit bug fixes to your shit. |
| 06:31.24 | [Liquidor] | http://armory.artoman.com/ |
| 06:32.26 | robotusch | Somehow, I always found the "Arto" part of that url sort of disturbing ;( |
| 06:32.36 | keiss | [Liquidor]: Fatal error: Call to undefined method DOMDocument::xpath() in /home/webdata/artoman.com/armory.artoman.com/character-search.php on line 8 |
| 06:33.07 | [Liquidor] | robotusch, I used to do some stuff for Arto and I know the guys behind |
| 06:33.37 | [Liquidor] | keiss, haven't converted all files to use my new xml class yet |
| 06:33.40 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@60-241-56-168.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:34.05 | robotusch | :O |
| 06:35.51 | xyu | still neat :D |
| 06:36.14 | keiss | doesn't work , but nice :D |
| 06:36.16 | Kivin | Using Ace3DB, If I want an addon to share the same DB for all characters on all realms on both factions, what do i set as default db? |
| 06:36.28 | [Liquidor] | Kivin, account |
| 06:36.34 | Kivin | [Liquidor]: thanks |
| 06:38.15 | [Liquidor] | I love my cache at http://armory.artoman.com/.. still working on the images tho. Haven't decided yet whether to create subfolders for images or just spam all of it in the same folder |
| 06:39.44 | Poul|Raider | do you store the info when someone look up a char or just query wowarmory each time? |
| 06:40.48 | Kivin | Any Euro players mind telling me if the server channels "General", "Trade", el al. are localized? |
| 06:41.54 | syeren | [Liquidor] |
| 06:41.55 | syeren | Fatal error: Call to undefined method DOMDocument::xpath() in /home/webdata/artoman.com/armory.artoman.com/character-search.php on line 8 |
| 06:42.20 | Shirik | [Liquidor]: This is why PHP recommends disabling error messages on live servers :P |
| 06:43.02 | [Liquidor] | heh Shirik, I'll just add a big "REPORT BUG" button in the face of the visitor to click on instead |
| 06:43.19 | Shirik | shouldn't even need that |
| 06:43.30 | Shirik | the php.ini has a setting to disable errors output and to log them instead |
| 06:43.35 | [Liquidor] | nah, there won't be errors anyway |
| 06:43.51 | Shirik | rofl |
| 06:44.29 | [Liquidor] | most of the output is copied from Blizzard's xsl schemes anyway so it's down to minimum. In any case I'll just make it log the errors in the db instead of a file |
| 06:44.53 | Poul|Raider | But [Liquidor], im working on something close to that also. Gonna implement some profile system for signup/forum where data are pulled from armory, whishlists for signups so people can see what loot others want etc |
| 06:45.18 | Poul|Raider | useing a random 100 system, so kinda want to be able to tell people that they suck if they roll on that item before after they looted it |
| 06:45.50 | Poul|Raider | but asp.net instead of php |
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| 06:46.10 | [Liquidor] | cba with vb.net |
| 06:46.14 | Poul|Raider | no |
| 06:46.20 | Poul|Raider | thats why you do c#.net DDD |
| 06:46.30 | [Liquidor] | had a downer with asp and .net is just making it worse |
| 06:46.53 | Poul|Raider | 5years since i did some asp |
| 06:46.58 | Poul|Raider | never done php |
| 06:47.05 | Poul|Raider | started asp.net 1month ago |
| 06:47.09 | Poul|Raider | and well, im happy |
| 06:47.11 | [Liquidor] | same, that's why I'm trying it out with the current project |
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| 06:47.34 | [Liquidor] | altho this isn't my first |
| 06:47.45 | [Liquidor] | made that rep calculator last year |
| 06:47.56 | [Liquidor] | but lol at my php skills at that time haha |
| 06:48.15 | Poul|Raider | :) |
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| 06:49.15 | Poul|Raider | even tho peolple say #c aint good for parsing. I found it nice that i could write my parser modules for hte combat log and then use it in my windowsform and on the page without even doign any ekstra work .D |
| 06:49.26 | Poul|Raider | but wel could properly do that in perl also |
| 06:49.31 | Poul|Raider | but well im not into that! |
| 06:49.32 | aestil | Antiarc: they really don't like my name. |
| 06:52.23 | [Liquidor] | taking a bath |
| 06:52.28 | [Liquidor] | im on Qnet as well, same nick |
| 06:53.51 | NivFreak | ckknight: I updated, and my font changed now :P |
| 06:54.14 | ruinna | NivFreak: same, but i changed it back and things seemed happy |
| 06:54.51 | syeren | NivFreak, Changelog ;p |
| 06:55.01 | NivFreak | who reads that stuff ;) |
| 06:55.02 | syeren | People read the change log >_> |
| 06:55.16 | NivFreak | actually, I usually do |
| 06:55.19 | NivFreak | but I had to rush to a raid |
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| 06:56.32 | NivFreak | hrmm, I swear I had sharedmedia installed |
| 06:56.35 | NivFreak | it resets anyway? |
| 06:56.38 | Sole | this is a bit of a problem |
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| 06:57.13 | Sole | Im trying to make icons (spells/abilities/etc) circled |
| 06:57.23 | Sole | and before you say to look at cyCircled, I have |
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| 06:58.28 | Sole | I just have a frame, and then a texture which holds the ability texture |
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| 07:05.53 | break19 | Xinhuan: ping |
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| 07:09.39 | Lukian | Is it possible for an addon to disenchant all *green* items in my bags? |
| 07:09.56 | break19 | yes |
| 07:10.02 | Lukian | Is there an addon for this? :D |
| 07:10.14 | break19 | i dunno |
| 07:10.40 | break19 | not something I'd want, so I don't go looking for it.. but yes, it should be possible |
| 07:12.18 | break19 | anyone know if Xinhuan would mind if I fixed up the externals for HandyNotes? its buggin me.. |
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| 07:17.40 | break19 | ok well.. he can chew me out later if he wants.. |
| 07:19.03 | Sole | I warn you, he likes to chew |
| 07:19.08 | break19 | i know |
| 07:19.10 | break19 | heh |
| 07:19.11 | Pkekyo|edu | morning all |
| 07:19.14 | Sole | hi2u |
| 07:19.35 | break19 | CIA-12: *poke* |
| 07:19.46 | break19 | cia lagging? |
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| 07:39.07 | Orionshock | see just got to show it some love and it works... |
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| 07:41.26 | Thorgard | For an Arms warrior, what's the weapon-enchant of choice for max DPS? |
| 07:41.48 | Orionshock | Thorgard: prolly mongoose |
| 07:43.00 | Antiarc | executioner |
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| 07:45.14 | Thorgard | Execgoose it is.. |
| 07:46.22 | Ellipsis | [10:56:09 pm] <NivFreak> it resets anyway? <<if you never changed your pitbull font from the default, then yes, it changes (because the default changed) |
| 07:46.59 | break19 | doncha just love it when an external library breaks? |
| 07:47.20 | break19 | especially when said library is on a 3rd party's svn server... |
| 07:48.33 | xyu | http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6678/paladinuimk9.jpg |
| 07:49.21 | break19 | xyu: epic.. where can I get that for -my- hearthadin? |
| 07:50.14 | ckknight | lol, xyu |
| 07:51.12 | Elkano | ckknight, you still fail on global override wrt LSM-2.0 :P |
| 07:51.24 | ckknight | I daresay your mom fails |
| 07:51.30 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:53.01 | Elkano | stating tautologies won't help you here... |
| 07:58.25 | xyu | my 3v3 team is rated like 1490, and the last 10 games have been vs: Five 1800's, Two 1600's, Three 2200's. :( |
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| 08:00.43 | Antiarc | Is there a blizz constant with the paths to the raid icon textures? |
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| 08:06.36 | Elkano | in 2.4 there is ICON_LIST -> http://wdnaddons.com/0407948/FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua but it has the form "|TInterface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-RaidTargetingIcon_1:" |
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| 08:09.31 | Elkano | the target frame seems to still use a single texture with all icons in it |
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| 08:15.07 | Nargiddley | threre is a constant with the coords for the icons in the texture |
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| 08:35.27 | Antiarc | CIA seems to have died. |
| 08:35.34 | Antiarc | But, http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_022508_013308.jpg |
| 08:36.23 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 08:36.25 | Ellipsis | you has a hax |
| 08:36.31 | Pkekyo|edu | I is a hax |
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| 08:37.05 | ckknight | pimp, Antiarc |
| 08:37.21 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|'s mom is a hax |
| 08:37.23 | ckknight | boo for lack of KiB, though |
| 08:37.39 | Pkekyo|edu | Ellipsis: WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY MUM DAMN YOU?! |
| 08:37.39 | Antiarc | lack of kib? |
| 08:38.18 | Ellipsis | my bad Pkekyo| |
| 08:38.19 | Ellipsis | it was teh hax |
| 08:38.41 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: hrm, maybe he meant it needs more kibble? |
| 08:38.45 | Antiarc | I dunno! |
| 08:38.46 | Ellipsis | to feed to the chinchillas? |
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| 08:38.50 | Antiarc | But I'm gonna go watch a movie now. |
| 08:39.07 | Ellipsis | hf |
| 08:42.04 | Pkekyo|edu | Ellipsis: :< |
| 08:42.22 | Pkekyo|edu | also: WTB new escape button |
| 08:42.37 | Ellipsis | <3u |
| 08:43.13 | Pkekyo|edu | noone got an esc button to spare? |
| 08:43.28 | Ellipsis | no, but you can have my left shift |
| 08:43.35 | Ellipsis | if that works |
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| 08:50.10 | ramoz | Antiarc: was ist das? |
| 08:51.17 | Xinhuan | hi break19 |
| 08:51.21 | Xinhuan | what's up? ^^ |
| 08:51.29 | break19 | zomg, there he is |
| 08:51.42 | Ellipsis | scary Xinhuan is scary |
| 08:51.46 | Pkekyo|edu | Ellipsis: better than nothing...laptop size, no? |
| 08:51.52 | Ellipsis | indeed Pkekyo| |
| 08:51.59 | Pkekyo|edu | sweet |
| 08:52.04 | break19 | Xinhuan: i edited handynotes' externals... looks like astrolabe was moved around.. but its also broken. :/ |
| 08:52.09 | Xinhuan | i managed to fool my professor into thinking i spent 1 week ;p |
| 08:52.15 | Xinhuan | on some assignment hehehe |
| 08:52.20 | Xinhuan | now i have another week |
| 08:52.30 | Xinhuan | what did you do |
| 08:52.41 | mykx | Antiarc: that's looking really nice :) |
| 08:52.45 | Sole | http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7282/wowscrnshot022508215032nk9.jpg |
| 08:52.48 | break19 | well.. "branches" is empty, on the svn sit |
| 08:52.50 | break19 | site |
| 08:53.18 | Xinhuan | i mean, what did you mean when you "edited" externals |
| 08:53.41 | break19 | http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/branches/coroutines/ doesnt exist. so pointed it at http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/trunk/ |
| 08:54.12 | Xinhuan | hmm esamynn told me to use the branch some time earlier in the week |
| 08:54.18 | Xinhuan | so unless he deleted his branch |
| 08:54.21 | Xinhuan | it should exist |
| 08:54.22 | break19 | yea well.. the branch is.. missing.. :p |
| 08:54.23 | Sole | that link is what Ive been doin tonight |
| 08:54.35 | break19 | check it for yourself :) |
| 08:54.37 | Sole | different way of displaying timers |
| 08:55.24 | Arrowmaster | circle takes up too much room |
| 08:55.42 | Sole | thats just a test one |
| 08:55.48 | Sole | of course its all scaleable |
| 08:56.00 | Sole | and needs to be changed to be dynamic |
| 08:56.04 | Sole | but I just wanted a test case |
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| 08:57.58 | Sole | Arrowmaster: but the idea itself, yes/no? |
| 08:58.34 | Shieldz | anyone know of a good Ace addon for blacklisting players? Preferably something that shows up in tooltips or chat |
| 08:58.42 | Xinhuan | break19, i assume the trunk address works and nothing broke? |
| 08:58.46 | Arrowmaster | are you making the value of the circle change dynamicly? like if a new item longer than the worth of the circle is added does everything shift? |
| 08:58.51 | break19 | you assume wrong. :/ |
| 08:59.16 | break19 | the lib wont load.. and Im not touching the code.. |
| 08:59.35 | Xinhuan | which lib won't load? |
| 08:59.41 | break19 | astrolabe |
| 09:00.03 | Sole | Arrowmaster: the circle is static. The position of an icon is determined by the percentage duration of the timer. So if its 25% through then it will be at 90 degrees (right) |
| 09:00.15 | ckknight | CIA's down? |
| 09:00.29 | Arrowmaster | Sole: oh its percent... hmm not sure about that |
| 09:01.02 | Sole | The idea I had was having 3 circles around a name |
| 09:01.13 | Sole | each circle representative of buffs, cooldowns, debuffs |
| 09:01.19 | break19 | ckknight: yes |
| 09:01.29 | break19 | or.. appears to be, anyway |
| 09:01.33 | ckknight | I wanted people to see my commit note :-( |
| 09:01.42 | Sole | tell us now |
| 09:01.45 | Sole | I promise I'll laugh |
| 09:01.48 | ckknight | I basically chopped 20% of Chinchilla's memory use |
| 09:02.00 | Sole | LOL |
| 09:02.08 | Sole | ...good job |
| 09:02.17 | Arrowmaster | derock it? |
| 09:02.18 | Sole | I thought it was gonna be funny :) |
| 09:02.29 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: why you gotta be like that always? |
| 09:02.34 | break19 | heh |
| 09:02.36 | ckknight | you keep fucking busting my balls on shit like that |
| 09:02.40 | Arrowmaster | because its funny |
| 09:02.40 | Xinhuan | rofl break19, esamynn broke his own commit by doing his merge from branches incorrectly |
| 09:02.42 | ckknight | what's your issue, man? |
| 09:02.50 | break19 | Xinhuan: figures. lol |
| 09:02.53 | Diao | uhh |
| 09:02.53 | Diao | wtf |
| 09:02.55 | Diao | i just updated pitbull |
| 09:03.01 | Diao | why is my font so confused |
| 09:03.03 | Diao | er |
| 09:03.03 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i do it for the lolz |
| 09:03.04 | Diao | different* |
| 09:03.05 | ckknight | Diao: Ellipsis |
| 09:03.07 | Diao | i am confused |
| 09:03.12 | ckknight | she did it |
| 09:03.15 | break19 | Arrowmaster: "for teh lulz" gotta say it right. |
| 09:03.15 | Diao | what happened to my font :( |
| 09:03.15 | ckknight | blame her |
| 09:03.20 | Sole | maybe someone else might like my weird idea :( |
| 09:03.22 | Diao | it's all fat now |
| 09:03.22 | Sole | http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7282/wowscrnshot022508215032nk9.jpg |
| 09:03.24 | Sole | rawr |
| 09:03.24 | Ellipsis | Diao: the default changed |
| 09:03.26 | Ellipsis | set it back |
| 09:03.32 | Diao | where's the option |
| 09:03.36 | Diao | cause i use clearfont2 normally ._. |
| 09:03.39 | Ellipsis | global settings |
| 09:03.49 | Diao | oh font |
| 09:04.00 | Ellipsis | yes, I assumed that part would be obvious enough |
| 09:04.05 | break19 | lol |
| 09:04.20 | Diao | hm wtf |
| 09:04.40 | Diao | it still looks weird when i set it back to my default |
| 09:05.20 | Xinhuan | break19 |
| 09:05.28 | ckknight | it used to be ABF, Diao |
| 09:05.31 | break19 | yassah? |
| 09:05.31 | Diao | oh |
| 09:05.36 | Xinhuan | to fix it, edit line 454 of Astrolabe.lua |
| 09:05.40 | Diao | there we go |
| 09:05.41 | Xinhuan | and get rid of that "use" word in front |
| 09:05.41 | Diao | thank you sir |
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| 09:05.59 | Xinhuan | he pasted in that line wrongly with the extra word |
| 09:06.01 | break19 | Xinhuan: that aint the only place it's "use"''d |
| 09:06.12 | Xinhuan | yes, clearly, remove all the cases of "use" |
| 09:06.24 | Xinhuan | it should be 2 places |
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| 09:06.43 | Xinhuan | i downloaded the unified diff and its clearly broken ;p |
| 09:07.19 | Xinhuan | -if ( GetCVar("rotateMinimap") ~= "0" ) then minimapRotationEnabled = true; else minimapRotationEnabled = false; end |
| 09:07.23 | Xinhuan | +use minimapRotationEnabled = GetCVar("rotateMinimap") ~= "0" |
| 09:07.26 | Xinhuan | hEHEHE |
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| 09:07.47 | break19 | heh |
| 09:08.28 | Xinhuan | so Antiarc |
| 09:09.03 | Xinhuan | i logged on PTR and looked at the optimized combat log, some horde were attacking IF |
| 09:09.18 | robotusch | let me guess: one-shotting everything? :/ |
| 09:09.23 | Xinhuan | and my combat log was being spammed with ABC blah DEF (239847234) damage |
| 09:09.31 | Xinhuan | and i thought your optimized combat log did something wrong :D |
| 09:09.40 | Xinhuan | until i realized it was working perfectly lol! |
| 09:09.49 | Xinhuan | and that those huge numbers were real |
| 09:10.00 | break19 | hehe |
| 09:10.14 | Xinhuan | yeah so break19, 3 locations, get rid of the exta word and it'll work |
| 09:10.24 | break19 | yea. already done.. |
| 09:11.28 | break19 | people should actually test code, after an svn merge command.... |
| 09:11.54 | Xinhuan | the merge worked correctly |
| 09:12.00 | Xinhuan | it was another revision |
| 09:12.04 | Xinhuan | after the merge |
| 09:12.46 | break19 | yea, but if esamyn had just logged in, he would've noticed the problem immediately. lol |
| 09:15.03 | break19 | but I guess, since when I dev stuff, I'm constantly reloading and verifying it works, I have very little tolerance for typos like that. hehe |
| 09:16.10 | break19 | simply put.. I -can't- dry code... im OCD about makin sure my stuff works, every time I code even a single function, I gotta test it, make sure I didnt mess up something. lol |
| 09:16.40 | Orionshock | break19: i have the same problem |
| 09:17.08 | break19 | Orionshock: sucks sometimes. doesnt it.. never get any real work done, cuz ya too busy waitin for the 15th UI reload.... |
| 09:17.16 | Orionshock | nope |
| 09:17.30 | Orionshock | i load up on an alt, takes bout <10 sec to reload |
| 09:17.57 | break19 | as do I.. but I got a slow machine.. with a 4200rpm HD |
| 09:18.55 | break19 | i suppose, eventually, I'll upgrade the hd in this little notebook.. drop one of those fancy 7200s in it.. |
| 09:19.40 | break19 | of course, by the time I can afford it, I'll be needing to replace this thing. lol |
| 09:20.19 | break19 | hell, its almost 3 years old.. |
| 09:20.39 | Xinhuan | i dry code a lot ;p |
| 09:21.05 | Xinhuan | but my dry code usually works |
| 09:21.11 | break19 | Xinhuan: yea yea.. rub it in. |
| 09:21.12 | break19 | lol |
| 09:22.06 | break19 | well anyway.. its almost 330am here.. and Im gonna try to go back to bed (youngin' woke me up a couple hours ago, for her bottle..) |
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| 09:25.31 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 09:26.28 | robotusch | Good |
| 09:26.30 | Fisker- | ow |
| 09:26.35 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 09:26.37 | Fisker- | ow |
| 09:26.41 | robotusch | oh u |
| 09:26.44 | Fisker- | ow |
| 09:26.49 | Fisker- | oh u |
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| 09:35.50 | dieck | hi! our guild is approching Leotheras. In a guide we found that the Inner Demons are 40% resistant to fire & shadow, and 60% affin to arcane, nature and holy. wowwiki does not give these numbers, but also states the effect. Are these numbers correct? We have some shadowpriests calculating if "smite" is the better way to down them |
| 09:37.43 | Fisker- | they are not resistant to anything as far as i know |
| 09:38.00 | Fisker- | The only thing is that they take additional damage from holy, arcane and nature damage |
| 09:38.00 | dieck | hm |
| 09:38.03 | dieck | wowwiki states: |
| 09:38.04 | dieck | # take increased damage from arcane, nature, and holy spells |
| 09:38.04 | dieck | # take slightly reduced damage from shadow and fire spells |
| 09:38.26 | keiss | iam sure u get more from holy dmg , cant confirm/deny rest |
| 09:38.50 | dieck | ok |
| 09:39.18 | Fisker- | it's not going to be a problem |
| 09:39.30 | Fisker- | or else you'll have to talk to your dps'ers a bit if it is going to be a problem |
| 09:39.53 | keiss | exactly , unless they have a problem killing them with their normal abilities ... dont bother |
| 09:39.54 | Fisker- | Only one who should be having some issues with the inner demons is the maintank |
| 09:40.11 | Codayus_ | dieck: In my experience, smite is not good fpr spriests. At your progression level, any spriest worth his salt is using FSW, the badge offhand, and the kara neck - none of which helps smite. |
| 09:40.31 | Codayus_ | And the big curse of ANY caster versus an inner demon is spell pushback - untalented smites suck because they're long. |
| 09:41.21 | Codayus_ | I tend to go for shield, SWP, MB, Fear, MF, MF, MB, SWD, or soemthing like that. |
| 09:41.37 | dieck | our spriest has calculated: shadow = 1300 +dmg, -20% = 1040 +dmg. Holy 900 +dmg, +65% = 1485 +dmg. |
| 09:41.45 | dieck | for hear gear |
| 09:41.57 | Codayus_ | *nod* |
| 09:41.58 | dieck | so it depends on whether -20% and +65% are right |
| 09:42.21 | Codayus_ | let me find the actual spell |
| 09:42.27 | FinalX | apparantly, according to multiple articles, they do take increased damage but they dont have increased resistance |
| 09:42.31 | Codayus_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=37713 |
| 09:42.41 | Codayus_ | It's a straight mod of damage taken, yes. |
| 09:42.44 | keiss | + he wastes time shifting from shadow form ... i seriously wouldnt say its worth it |
| 09:42.51 | FinalX | ah there you go, they are :) |
| 09:42.56 | dieck | ok |
| 09:43.03 | FinalX | Shadowpriests Smiting? No chance in hell. |
| 09:43.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah maintank is the only person we ever really had problems with killing inner demon, but we worked around that |
| 09:43.30 | FinalX | They'd be out of mana before you can even say "out of mana"... |
| 09:43.31 | Codayus_ | The issue is, dropping out of shadow form, and then castign an untalented smite...isn't that good. It's not BAD, but I had more luck with just soloing it in shadow. The real key is, beg like a girl for an earth shield or it sucks. |
| 09:43.46 | Arrowmaster | he stacked his party up so he had windfury and battleshout |
| 09:43.49 | Fisker- | it's 20% less dps |
| 09:43.49 | Codayus_ | Arrowmaster: Get him a Thunderfury, our MT kills his really fast. Oo |
| 09:43.50 | Fisker- | big woop |
| 09:43.59 | Arrowmaster | Codayus_: lol |
| 09:44.03 | Fisker- | you're a dps class that's why you're being penalised |
| 09:44.04 | keiss | and dont forget to put Inner Fire |
| 09:44.07 | FinalX | 20% less dps vs "out of mana", i'd go with 20% less dps |
| 09:44.09 | Fisker- | and the healers classes are getting an advantage |
| 09:44.13 | FinalX | Fisker-: exactly :P |
| 09:44.14 | dieck | Codayus_: as she is a girl, becking like one should be easy :) |
| 09:44.17 | Arrowmaster | Codayus_: he runs MC every week for a thunderfury |
| 09:44.31 | Codayus_ | Arrowmaster: For realz? Heh. I was kind of kidding. |
| 09:44.50 | Arrowmaster | he does it for fun, not that he would actually use it |
| 09:44.52 | Codayus_ | Although frankly, TF is still surprisingly good. Compares well to the mallet. |
| 09:45.14 | FinalX | 'Nature and Arcane damage taken is increased by 65%.' is sooooo boomkin tbh :) |
| 09:45.15 | Codayus_ | (In some situations. Zip for mitigation, of course.) |
| 09:47.29 | Codayus_ | (Our MT has both a mallet and TF. Rought testing shows that TF tends to run a bit higher TPS than the mallet. YMMV.) |
| 09:48.00 | FinalX | I want a TF on my Pally :( |
| 09:48.05 | Codayus_ | Heh |
| 09:48.10 | FinalX | My bro has it on his rogue and one half on his warrior :P |
| 09:48.31 | dieck | ok, thanks for all advices, I'll leave it up to our spriest to decide :) |
| 09:48.37 | Arrowmaster | our mt just got a Brutalizer this week |
| 09:48.51 | Arrowmaster | we have 3 TF's in the guild again |
| 09:49.00 | FinalX | ^^ |
| 09:49.13 | FinalX | you can 5-man the bosses anyway |
| 09:49.15 | Arrowmaster | one on whats now an alt |
| 09:49.23 | FinalX | so we have multiple groups going for the heck of it |
| 09:50.12 | Arrowmaster | our OT has had 1 of the bindings for over 2 years |
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| 09:52.00 | HIghoS | Tell your MT to walk on top of your demon tank |
| 09:52.06 | HIghoS | so he takes damage from the fire aoe |
| 09:52.30 | Fisker- | sounds like a stupid idea? |
| 09:52.36 | Arrowmaster | thinking back, ive seen 3 sets of bindings drop, the 2nd one for our first TF (rogue) then 2 whole sets for warriors and then a single one for a rogue that doesnt play anymore |
| 09:52.37 | keiss | we do that too , works |
| 09:52.42 | HIghoS | We use to actually wear our 'threat' trash set (aka high +hit +expertise +sbv) and we never had problems killing our inner demon near the end as long as you spell reflect the cast. |
| 09:52.56 | HIghoS | Not really. You don't take that much damage from the aoe.. and it gives a TON of rage. |
| 09:53.04 | FinalX | *ponders* I got a Blinkstrike yesterday as a drop while farming, I don't really need the money and it's not selling very well either. I can get the money it sells for in 1 evening... *ponders some more* maybe I should keep it for my tankadin just for looks >.< |
| 09:53.28 | harldephin | why does [combat] not distinguish between me or my pet being in combat. that's kind of stupid. there should be one for me and one for my pet. |
| 09:53.31 | Arrowmaster | lol tankadin with blinkstrike |
| 09:53.38 | FinalX | *nod* |
| 09:53.50 | FinalX | Already got the Gavel, and I like the looks :P |
| 09:54.07 | Arrowmaster | atleast its better than the hunter ive seen with 2xblinkstrikes |
| 09:54.21 | FinalX | LOL |
| 09:54.23 | Ellipsis | harldephin: because if your pet is in combat it puts you in combat. |
| 09:54.30 | FinalX | That's really wasted :) |
| 09:54.30 | harldephin | no it doesn't |
| 09:54.34 | Ellipsis | yes, it does |
| 09:54.36 | Ellipsis | it always has |
| 09:54.40 | FinalX | It's wasted on a tankadin, but, on a hunter it's even worse |
| 09:55.13 | Ellipsis | go let your pet start fighting something and then try to eat |
| 09:55.19 | syeren | Can't drink when my Shadowfiend is on a target. |
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| 09:55.26 | syeren | And hunters have to retreat their pet to drink. |
| 09:55.32 | syeren | When they Feign Death ;p |
| 09:55.37 | syeren | So I would assume Ellipsis is right ;p |
| 09:56.18 | Ellipsis | what's this "assume" business |
| 09:56.20 | Ellipsis | I'm always right |
| 09:56.21 | Ellipsis | :) |
| 09:56.24 | FinalX | Arrowmaster: I'm actually kinda curious how Blinkstrike goes with Reckoning and SoR :P (Yes, I know my Gavel is a LOT better if not best, but I'm still curious and can't really be arsed to sell it :P) |
| 09:57.17 | FinalX | Although my combat sword rogue on my other realm is crying right now.. maybe I should transfer it :o |
| 09:58.24 | harldephin | the point is, this *should* be as you say, but it not always is like that, so sometimes i'm not in combat when my pet is and sometimes my pet is not in combat while i am. |
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| 10:00.33 | dieck | hm. bad network connection today |
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| 10:07.19 | CIA-9 | Chinchilla : |
| 10:07.19 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 10:10.17 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 10:10.17 | CIA-9 | - update zhTW |
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| 10:11.12 | CIA-9 | GridManaBars: |
| 10:11.12 | CIA-9 | add zhTW translation |
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| 10:21.12 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
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| 10:22.41 | Lothaer | hey guys |
| 10:23.46 | Snago | hello |
| 10:23.58 | Lothaer | any1 here savy with Mapster? |
| 10:24.13 | Snago | ~asktoask |
| 10:24.14 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 10:25.53 | [Ammo] | Lothaer: what do you want to know? |
| 10:26.18 | Lothaer | lol i was wondering if any1 knew if mapster had a waypoint ability like cart does (the arrow thing) of if there is a standalone mod that will do it |
| 10:26.29 | [Ammo] | download TomTom from www.wowinterface.com |
| 10:26.30 | Lothaer | sorry in a few conversations here lol |
| 10:26.48 | Lothaer | thanks will give it a try |
| 10:27.00 | clad|office | Lothaer: the versino on wowinterface doesn't have the big standalone arrow |
| 10:27.05 | Lothaer | O Ammo, you gotten any logs for MT yet? |
| 10:27.05 | clad|office | but it should be released sometime this week |
| 10:27.10 | clad|office | it does have the minimap waypoints, howevere. |
| 10:27.15 | [Ammo] | Lothaer: Magisters Terrace? no |
| 10:27.17 | Lothaer | kk thanks |
| 10:27.20 | [Ammo] | but maybe Funkeh does |
| 10:27.50 | Lothaer | kk well im getting ready to run MT in a few ill post them up after im done |
| 10:28.51 | Lothaer | clad, so is tomtom getting the arrow or is that gonna be another addon? |
| 10:28.59 | clad|office | TomTom has it in trunk |
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| 10:29.08 | clad|office | it's a navigation addon |
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| 10:29.46 | Lothaer | GPS lol |
| 10:30.00 | Lothaer | or a new mod called SatNav |
| 10:30.38 | clad|office | perhaps you should google for TomTOm |
| 10:31.15 | Orionshock | so how hard is sunwell? |
| 10:31.16 | Thorgard_ | TomTom makes GPSNavs don't they? ;P |
| 10:31.23 | clad|office | yes |
| 10:31.26 | clad|office | well |
| 10:31.29 | [Ammo] | they do yeah |
| 10:31.35 | clad|office | TomTom is a brand of personal navigation assistants |
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| 10:32.52 | Lothaer | <---- Aussie lol |
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| 10:42.18 | Lothaer | clad how to i access the wowinterface svn? |
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| 10:50.23 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r62855 10Omen/ (Bar.lua Modules/AOE/AOE.lua): Got diamond and triangle working, added icons to test bars. |
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| 10:54.37 | Lukian | lol world server crashed after honour updates again |
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| 10:56.33 | sb | Antiarc: mhh - icon display in omen? |
| 10:56.41 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_022508_035422.jpg |
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| 10:57.01 | Kalroth | needs more icons |
| 10:57.08 | Antiarc | That's the test bars :P |
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| 10:57.54 | keiss | shiny |
| 10:59.12 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Can you make the threat bars twice as big, move to the center of the screen, make a bouncy animation and play a loud sound when you're a few percentages away from taking aggro? |
| 10:59.37 | Antiarc | Heheh, well, it already has sound, text warning via LibSink, red screen flash, and screen shake. |
| 10:59.42 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: oh and my kitchen sink needs cleaning! |
| 10:59.44 | Antiarc | If you manage to miss that, you probably need medical attention. |
| 10:59.44 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 10:59.45 | Kalroth | Also it should blink fast and do "/raid Imma gonna tank <target> soon!!" |
| 11:00.19 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, I hope schake isn't on by default |
| 11:00.22 | Antiarc | I have to figure out how I'm going to plug the tanks in in the tank list mode |
| 11:00.23 | Antiarc | It's not |
| 11:00.23 | Funkeh` | shacke |
| 11:00.25 | Funkeh` | k |
| 11:00.27 | Antiarc | It's the one that's off by default |
| 11:00.29 | Kalroth | shake* |
| 11:02.00 | sb | oh |
| 11:02.15 | sb | <3 new omen look |
| 11:02.44 | ramoz | Antiarc: i hope you still can color the bars by class? :O |
| 11:02.50 | Antiarc | Really, it's the old omen look, except now you can customize the border/background textures |
| 11:03.00 | sb | and you have those mode-buttons :p |
| 11:03.08 | Antiarc | ramoz: Bars are colored by class in single target mode. That AOE mode is going to show a list of mobs, for which class colors don't make sense. |
| 11:03.23 | Antiarc | single target = "classic threat meter" |
| 11:04.34 | Antiarc | Well, yeah, the mode buttons |
| 11:06.35 | Fisker- | anyone got a screenshot of that shattered sun cache you get from essence of the immortals? |
| 11:06.52 | Fisker- | :O Antiarc |
| 11:06.55 | Fisker- | is that sum omen 2? |
| 11:07.17 | Antiarc | Yesh |
| 11:07.17 | Fisker- | :O |
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| 11:16.16 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:16.16 | CIA-9 | - loottables.de cleanup |
| 11:16.16 | CIA-9 | - updated Release Notes |
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| 11:39.03 | sylvanaar_work | anyone familiar with coroutines in Lua? |
| 11:39.21 | Antiarc | I'm familiar with the theory, though I haven't actually used them |
| 11:39.24 | sylvanaar_work | or rather how they are scheduled in thw hosting app |
| 11:39.56 | sylvanaar_work | yeah - i cant find anywhere in the Lua source which actually handles thier scheduling |
| 11:40.20 | Antiarc | I suspect it's just a queue |
| 11:40.27 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was still all done as a single thread |
| 11:40.28 | Fisker- | did they fix the stat exploit yesterday btw? |
| 11:40.34 | Fisker- | or is it still working? |
| 11:40.36 | sylvanaar_work | it is a single thread |
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| 11:41.07 | Arrowmaster | since when you resume a coroutine you dont continue on from where you resumed it until it yeilds |
| 11:41.13 | sylvanaar_work | they are scheduled manually - but i cant find where - or if - that is part of the basic Lua runtime |
| 11:41.51 | sylvanaar_work | right |
| 11:42.40 | sylvanaar_work | and if you make blocking calls - it blocks all the other coroutines too |
| 11:43.07 | sylvanaar_work | still, cant find where the dispatcher is implemented |
| 11:44.03 | |Pixel| | okay |
| 11:44.08 | |Pixel| | you have to schedule that manually |
| 11:44.17 | |Pixel| | it's up to the host app to re-schedule things, basically |
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| 11:44.43 | |Pixel| | for instance, in my host applications, when a co-routine is spawned, this is generated inside of a pthread, internally |
| 11:45.03 | Fisker- | IE8 > Fx btw |
| 11:45.05 | Fisker- | but so is IE7 |
| 11:45.17 | |Pixel| | thus I can run several real-Lua-threads in parallel |
| 11:45.32 | |Pixel| | but in the normal way co-routines are used, it's still a single thread |
| 11:45.44 | |Pixel| | so there's no true parallelization, nor any kind of scheduling |
| 11:46.06 | |Pixel| | main code calls a co-routine, it'll block until co-routine yields, that's it |
| 11:46.15 | Adys | Fisker-: dvds > floppies, they werent invented back then, fat chance? |
| 11:46.41 | Fisker- | :D? |
| 11:47.03 | |Pixel| | "That was a joke - HA HA - Fat chance!" |
| 11:47.10 | Adys | HA HA! |
| 11:47.18 | |Pixel| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lo6uXwi4M0 btw |
| 11:47.27 | Adys | also fisker, how would one go to dl ie8 |
| 11:47.56 | Adys | pixel: :D |
| 11:48.12 | |Pixel| | ya des tarés partout, hm |
| 11:48.37 | sylvanaar_work | |Pixel| thats what my understanding too, that there was no scheduler implementation by default. |
| 11:48.59 | |Pixel| | sylvanaar_work: also, note that I wrote a basic scheduler for that |
| 11:49.04 | |Pixel| | (without pthreads that is) |
| 11:49.17 | sylvanaar_work | have a link? |
| 11:49.22 | |Pixel| | hmmm, yeah, I do |
| 11:49.29 | |Pixel| | but you'll have some headache afterward :) |
| 11:50.01 | |Pixel| | http://www.nobis-crew.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/Baltisot/lib/TaskMan.cc?revision=1.55&view=markup |
| 11:50.07 | |Pixel| | http://www.nobis-crew.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/Baltisot/lib/Task.cc?revision=1.34&view=markup |
| 11:50.20 | |Pixel| | http://www.nobis-crew.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/Baltisot/lib/LuaTask.cc?revision=1.28&view=markup |
| 11:50.30 | sylvanaar_work | im trying to integrate Lua into an app here at work, so I'm still learning how certain bits are implemented |
| 11:50.31 | Fisker- | dunno Adys |
| 11:50.35 | Fisker- | but beta is out :< |
| 11:50.38 | Fisker- | i can't has it |
| 11:50.41 | |Pixel| | the scheduling is based ontop of poll |
| 11:50.57 | |Pixel| | actually, the whole grumpycoder's httpd works using this engine, without pthreads |
| 11:51.12 | Adys | Fisker-: How inconvenient. :P |
| 11:51.18 | |Pixel| | the system is able to handle several http requests in parallel (handled by Lua that is) |
| 11:51.26 | Fisker- | hope someone leak it later today |
| 11:51.29 | Fisker- | do want and what not |
| 11:51.39 | |Pixel| | as long as the Lua task does correctly yield from time to time |
| 11:51.56 | sylvanaar_work | what do you use for binding Lua to C/C++ |
| 11:52.06 | |Pixel| | by own stuff, basically :) |
| 11:52.15 | |Pixel| | http://www.nobis-crew.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/Baltisot/lib/BLua.cc?revision=1.58&view=markup |
| 11:52.15 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, thats what my plan was too |
| 11:52.36 | sylvanaar_work | cool, thanks |
| 11:52.42 | |Pixel| | http://www.nobis-crew.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/Baltisot/include/BLua.h?revision=1.42&view=markup |
| 11:53.00 | Funkeh` | is the new ptr build out yet |
| 11:53.15 | |Pixel| | so, as an easy example, biding a simple class such as "Regex" is really quick: |
| 11:53.25 | |Pixel| | http://www.nobis-crew.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/Baltisot/lib/Regex.cc?revision=1.16&view=markup |
| 11:53.31 | |Pixel| | http://www.nobis-crew.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/Baltisot/lib/LuaRegex.cc?revision=1.5&view=markup |
| 11:56.49 | chexsum_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:58.44 | sylvanaar_work | yeah - basically i have to show that the C <-> Lua binding is easy enough for the other developers to maintain without me around - though I'm not really at the point where I am that fluent with it yet |
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| 12:00.53 | sylvanaar_work | i think the ideal case would probably be a code generator |
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| 12:07.47 | sylvanaar_work | i like the example here: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaGenericCall |
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| 12:09.40 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r62859 10Omen/ (Bar.lua Modules/AOE/AOE.lua Modules/Overview/Overview.lua): |
| 12:09.40 | CIA-9 | Omen: |
| 12:09.40 | CIA-9 | - Make sure fontstrings don't wrap outside of the bounds of each bar. |
| 12:09.40 | CIA-9 | - Add raid icons to Overview mode |
| 12:09.40 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r62858 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 12:09.41 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:09.43 | CIA-9 | - Sunwell update |
| 12:09.45 | CIA-9 | - New drop for Magtheridon added |
| 12:09.49 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r62863 10aX_RaidStatus/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:09.51 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 12:09.53 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Status Bar Images (Thanks for reporting it? -_-;) |
| 12:09.55 | CIA-9 | - Added: Settings for bars (options not implemented yet) |
| 12:10.14 | Fisker- | new drop? :O |
| 12:10.16 | m4rku5 | lol CIA "only" lags 30mins today |
| 12:10.36 | m4rku5 | ~fail CIA-9 |
| 12:10.36 | purl | CIA-9: Fail. |
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| 12:15.49 | syeren | Fisker-, 20 slot BOP Epic bag :p |
| 12:17.54 | Fisker- | owld |
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| 12:36.33 | harldephin | where have TinyTip's options gone to? |
| 12:36.43 | Antiarc | It isn't possible to conditionally include a source file in WoW, is it? |
| 12:37.12 | Antiarc | I want to provide FuBarPlugin functionality if FuBar and AceLibrary are present, but just ignore it if not |
| 12:37.15 | Funkeh` | harldephin, new version has no options yet |
| 12:37.21 | harldephin | oh.. |
| 12:37.28 | Antiarc | But FuBarPlugin is written in such a way that it errors if Ace2 isn't present. |
| 12:37.41 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, Why? :P |
| 12:37.52 | Funkeh` | I mean, have a minimap icon |
| 12:37.59 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: make OmenFu |
| 12:38.04 | [Ammo] | and add it all in a seperate addon |
| 12:38.06 | [Ammo] | done :) |
| 12:38.06 | Antiarc | Consistency of accessability/interface with the previous version of Omen |
| 12:38.11 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 12:38.23 | Antiarc | I really dislike standalone addon-fubar bridges. Just feels clunky. |
| 12:38.32 | [Ammo] | and in the distro on addon sites just include it |
| 12:38.44 | [Ammo] | 2 folders in the zip etc |
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| 12:40.06 | Antiarc | Well, for now, I must sleep. |
| 12:40.13 | Antiarc | I'll figure it out tomorrow. |
| 12:40.22 | [Ammo] | or screwn fubar config |
| 12:40.29 | [Ammo] | and use 2.4 addons options panel with AceConfigDialog :) |
| 12:40.48 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: just do "if not AceLibrary or not AceLibrary:HasInstance("FuBarPlugin-2.0") then return end" |
| 12:40.58 | nevcairiel | at the beginning of the file |
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| 12:44.54 | Funkeh` | I prefer [Ammo] 's 2nd idea :) |
| 12:47.14 | Arrowmaster | is bigwigs3 going to use the 2.4 addons options panel with aceconfig? |
| 12:47.29 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62865 10kgPanelsConfig/ (LayoutHelper.lua PanelHelper.lua): kgPanelsConfig: fixed remove logic |
| 12:49.19 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, Not sure yet since it's not been discussed. BigWIgs is in the unique situation where the icon represents its status, not just an easy config. |
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| 12:50.06 | Arrowmaster | could do both since you could open anything on clicking and not just a dewdrop menu |
| 12:50.13 | Arrowmaster | but thats extra libs |
| 12:50.54 | Funkeh` | Probably a basic minimap icon that opens aceconfig or something |
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| 12:51.01 | Funkeh` | or maybe just ditch it all together |
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| 12:54.54 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r62866 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 12:54.54 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0 |
| 12:54.54 | CIA-9 | - set error level on library embedding to point to the :NewAddon call |
| 12:54.56 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r62867 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua core.lua): |
| 12:54.56 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 12:54.56 | CIA-9 | - some changes to the movable frame used for save position of single cooldowns |
| 12:55.59 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow * r62868 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: frFR Update |
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| 12:57.07 | wereHamster | LibStub has to be included as external like any other library, right? |
| 12:57.27 | break19 | almost. |
| 12:57.39 | wereHamster | what does almost mean? |
| 12:57.56 | break19 | i think most of the devs would prefer that you use the tagged 1.0 version, rather than the trunk.. |
| 12:58.23 | wereHamster | well, xparky is missing LibStub, so if you use that and only that addon it fails to load |
| 12:58.56 | break19 | then wobin failed to include it |
| 12:59.02 | wereHamster | I don't care whether the external points to 1.0 or trunk, but the library is missing from it |
| 12:59.59 | Funkeh` | you include it as an external in your addon, you just include it in the folder for a lib |
| 13:00.01 | Funkeh` | and eys use the tag |
| 13:00.04 | Funkeh` | yes* |
| 13:00.33 | break19 | heh. |
| 13:00.46 | break19 | he's got it listed in the embeds.xml, but not the svn:externals.. |
| 13:00.47 | wereHamster | can somebody please fix that for wobin or do I need to wait until he wakes up? |
| 13:01.41 | [SW]Dodge | Funkeh`: use LibStub tag? why? |
| 13:01.51 | [SW]Dodge | i'm using this http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/LibStub/ ^^ |
| 13:02.04 | break19 | bad dodge.. |
| 13:02.30 | [SW]Dodge | :/ |
| 13:03.07 | [SW]Dodge | why? |
| 13:03.30 | Elkano | dodge, use the one in tags |
| 13:03.53 | wereHamster | all other externals of xparky point to trunk/ace3/.. |
| 13:04.03 | wereHamster | bad wobin.. |
| 13:04.30 | [SW]Dodge | wereHamster: if they are like ace3/aceaddon-3 why its bad?^^ |
| 13:04.40 | wereHamster | Libs/AceAddon-3.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/ |
| 13:04.53 | break19 | nothing wrong there... |
| 13:04.56 | wereHamster | I don't know why it's bad, break19 said that |
| 13:05.05 | [SW]Dodge | its correct... thats the only path where its aviable :) |
| 13:05.13 | break19 | [SW]Dodge: not true. |
| 13:05.14 | [SW]Dodge | using the ace3 libstub is bad :P |
| 13:05.28 | break19 | its also available at ./tags/Ace3/Beta/ :) |
| 13:05.30 | [SW]Dodge | break19: in trung... |
| 13:05.37 | [SW]Dodge | trunk* |
| 13:05.38 | [SW]Dodge | -.- |
| 13:05.44 | wereHamster | and under trunk/LibStub, too |
| 13:05.48 | [SW]Dodge | who cares tag? *lol* |
| 13:05.56 | break19 | no... AceAddon-3.0 isnt under libstub |
| 13:06.39 | [SW]Dodge | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/LibStub/1.0/ <- for libstub? |
| 13:06.47 | break19 | yessir |
| 13:08.05 | break19 | Wobin_: wakey wakey |
| 13:08.15 | Elkano | Libstub isn't part of Ace3 so you should use the tagged 1.0; for Ace3 I don't know wether tagged beta or updated beta is better |
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| 13:15.50 | Xinhuan | the updated RC1 branch is regularly merged into trunk every few days |
| 13:15.56 | Xinhuan | for ace3 that is |
| 13:16.14 | Xinhuan | so unless you need some rc1 feature update/bugfix, it should point to the trunk |
| 13:16.17 | Elkano | that's what I refered to as updated beta |
| 13:16.37 | Xinhuan | the trunk is more updated than the beta |
| 13:16.41 | Xinhuan | the beta is really a tag |
| 13:16.55 | thul | http://google.com/trends?q=%22rogue%22%2C+%22paladin%22&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 <- need I say more? |
| 13:17.33 | Xinhuan | so newest to oldest is RC1 > trunk > tag Beta > tag Alpha |
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| 13:17.50 | Elkano | yeah, but since there is no RC1 tagged, yet, trunk is an updated beta ^^ |
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| 13:19.01 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r62872 10AlchemyList/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:19.01 | CIA-9 | AlchemyList: |
| 13:19.01 | CIA-9 | - use embeds.xml |
| 13:19.01 | CIA-9 | - fixed some bugs in base enUS localization |
| 13:19.02 | CIA-9 | - localized some strings and removed unused |
| 13:19.04 | CIA-9 | - added deDE (thanks nadja) |
| 13:19.06 | CIA-9 | - added frFR (thanks Marcopilon) |
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| 13:33.25 | pb_ee1 | http://digg.com/comedy/WTF_Happened_In_Janurary |
| 13:34.06 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 13:34.29 | [SW]Dodge | nice O.o |
| 13:34.45 | pb_ee1 | Thanks to Adys :D |
| 13:34.46 | FinalX | hm, anyone know of a tank addon that just shows a little window with avoidance percentages, block value etc, both as single stats and summed? |
| 13:35.04 | FinalX | else i'm gonna try make one myself, never programmed lua before though :p |
| 13:35.14 | Adys | pb_ee1: you say that like im responsible of this search difference |
| 13:35.35 | pb_ee1 | naaa thanks for the link, you know that! |
| 13:35.42 | Adys | yeah but not everyone does! |
| 13:35.49 | pb_ee1 | lul |
| 13:35.49 | SunTsu | FinalX: Fubar_AbramsFU |
| 13:36.04 | pb_ee1 | i knew you were a pervert, ya frenchy ! |
| 13:37.21 | Adys | http://www.google.com/trends?q=2005%2C+2006&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 |
| 13:37.24 | Adys | Im such a kid |
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| 13:38.09 | FinalX | SunTsu: thanks, i'll have a look at that ^^ |
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| 13:42.46 | Poul|Raider | what is the native resolution of 24" |
| 13:42.51 | Poul|Raider | 18xx something? |
| 13:44.39 | Adys | Poul|Raider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg |
| 13:44.55 | CIA-9 | 03gagorian * r62873 10DrDamage/ (Data/Shaman.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 13:44.55 | CIA-9 | DrDamage: |
| 13:44.55 | CIA-9 | - Shaman MST and MT now read the mana cost from the tooltip, making the calculation accurate and easier |
| 13:44.57 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r62874 10/branches/Lunatic/ (core.lua frames.lua): Lunatic: make grouped frames movable correct |
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| 13:46.33 | [SW]Dodge | Olison: ping |
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| 13:49.31 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r62875 10/branches/Lunatic/frames.lua: Lunatic: grouped frames move fix/tweak/cleanup/whatever |
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| 13:59.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- |
| 14:00.04 | sag_ich_nicht | do you wish to learn my most successful troll yet? |
| 14:00.21 | Adys | http://www.google.com/trends?q=firefox%2C+%22internet+explorer%22&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 |
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| 14:04.38 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62876 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Don't call GuildRoster() on login, and only act on GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE once. |
| 14:10.58 | break19 | heh: http://www.google.com/trends?q=Bible%2C+koran&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 |
| 14:11.42 | [SW]Dodge | heya, someone got a windows source code for a ping.exe like tool? :) |
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| 14:13.09 | nevcairiel | just open a ICMP socket and send the echo request |
| 14:13.15 | nevcairiel | shouldnt really need an example :P |
| 14:13.36 | [SW]Dodge | tell me how to open ann ICMP socket :P |
| 14:13.45 | [SW]Dodge | AND how to send the echo request :) |
| 14:13.51 | nevcairiel | s = socket (AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_ICMP); |
| 14:14.53 | [SW]Dodge | on windows ? :) |
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| 14:15.34 | nevcairiel | http://www.sockets.com/ch16.htm#IPPROTO_ICMP |
| 14:15.35 | nevcairiel | read that :P |
| 14:15.50 | [SW]Dodge | ty :) |
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| 14:18.11 | break19 | .. my code is hot.. it's so hot in fact, that when my kid watches me code stuff, sittin my lap, she drools all over the keyboard.. |
| 14:18.28 | break19 | of course, the fact she's only 5months old has -nothing- to do with it. |
| 14:18.39 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 14:19.29 | Thuz | Uhm, is there any way that you can have a dynamic size of a FontString? |
| 14:19.39 | Thuz | -that |
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| 14:26.15 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62877 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: updated default panel setup |
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| 14:37.27 | syeren | I saw you modded your addon Dodge :) |
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| 14:38.27 | [SW]Dodge | yea :) |
| 14:38.44 | [SW]Dodge | you now can set a position for each addon/spell |
| 14:38.49 | [SW]Dodge | s/addn/item/ |
| 14:38.53 | [SW]Dodge | s/addon/item/ |
| 14:38.53 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62878 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: updates for enable/disbale |
| 14:38.54 | [SW]Dodge | ! |
| 14:39.11 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62879 10kgPanelsConfig/ (4 files in 2 dirs): kgPanelsConfig: added some more localizations and fixed up some tostring issues |
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| 14:44.59 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62880 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: my dumb ass forgot a coma |
| 14:45.35 | kenlyric | i always forget a coma |
| 14:45.51 | nevcairiel | and where is the fun in that? |
| 14:47.23 | Grum | When you are going to do a char-copy, does it take the last known logged out state of your char? or is it like the armory - one day lagging behind? |
| 14:47.27 | Grum | (to PTR) |
| 14:47.38 | nevcairiel | it copys the current form |
| 14:47.41 | nevcairiel | not even logout state |
| 14:47.44 | Grum | k |
| 14:47.45 | nevcairiel | it was copied mid-flight |
| 14:47.48 | nevcairiel | *i |
| 14:47.55 | Grum | i just send a shitload of cash/raid mats over |
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| 14:48.05 | nevcairiel | altho you need to wait until it was actually copied |
| 14:48.06 | Grum | does it copy mailboxes? |
| 14:48.14 | nevcairiel | it doesnt copy instantly when you hit the button |
| 14:48.15 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:48.26 | Grum | humz k i'll keep the mats |
| 14:48.33 | Grum | i heard it was nearly instant on EU realms atm |
| 14:49.10 | nevcairiel | still says 5 days on the page, last it said that it took like 24 hours |
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| 14:52.59 | syeren | Yeah, but the EU realms don't get to fucking raid. |
| 14:53.03 | syeren | Or have Flaskataurs. |
| 14:53.09 | syeren | Because EU GMs don't give a shit. |
| 14:53.19 | Fisker- | there are no EU GM's |
| 14:53.45 | syeren | *EU Guilds rather |
| 14:53.57 | nevcairiel | there are no PTR GMs at all |
| 14:53.59 | nevcairiel | not US or EU |
| 14:54.01 | Fisker- | why wouldn't eu guilds give a shit? |
| 14:54.05 | Fisker- | There are GMs |
| 14:54.20 | syeren | Pardon? |
| 14:54.23 | nevcairiel | there are no GMs on the PTRs |
| 14:54.23 | syeren | Let's see. |
| 14:54.28 | Daemona | pfff i saw nihilum, i saw meet your makers.... |
| 14:54.29 | Fisker- | But george w. bush doesn't care about european people |
| 14:54.31 | Fisker- | yes there are |
| 14:54.51 | syeren | A GM fucking death touched a boss and moved VIS MAIOR to the 3rd boss. |
| 14:54.54 | Daemona | and rumours say there were even flaskataurs on the eu pvp ptr |
| 14:55.02 | syeren | There was 1. |
| 14:55.09 | syeren | In comparison to America's crap load. |
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| 14:55.26 | nevcairiel | You know that brutallus insta-dies on any guild now? |
| 14:55.28 | nevcairiel | yes? |
| 14:55.34 | syeren | Yes. |
| 14:55.41 | syeren | I'm in a decent guild remember? |
| 14:55.46 | syeren | Sure I had this discussion with you :o |
| 14:55.48 | Daemona | my personal favourite is that they removed the 2 npcs for repair and reagents from the instance in the last ptr push ^^ |
| 14:55.58 | nevcairiel | they did? |
| 14:55.59 | nevcairiel | thats stupid |
| 14:56.16 | nevcairiel | did EU unlock the NPCs on the island yet? =P |
| 14:56.19 | nevcairiel | i didnt check |
| 14:56.21 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62882 10kgPanelsConfig/ (Locales/kgPanels-enUS.lua PanelHelper.lua kgPanelsConfig.lua): kgPanelsConfig: fixed checkbox toggle for mouse |
| 14:56.21 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r62881 10Manasurge/ (README core.lua locale/enUS.lua): |
| 14:56.21 | CIA-9 | Manasurge: |
| 14:56.21 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.40 | Fisker- | everyone is just exploiting |
| 14:56.44 | Daemona | no nevcairiel |
| 14:56.55 | Fisker- | George W. Bush doesn't care about european people and what not |
| 14:56.56 | syeren | Also the Flaskataur the EU Guild got was utter shit in comparison to DNTs -_- |
| 14:56.56 | syeren | (10:27:26) (+N|Darmor) We've been bitching about destro pots plx on flaskataurs |
| 14:56.56 | syeren | (10:27:31) (+N|Darmor) never added them :( |
| 14:57.24 | nevcairiel | as if some pots make you a better guild |
| 14:57.58 | syeren | I think N have been able to raid twice since the PTRs went up :/ |
| 14:58.01 | Fisker- | they need to put banks into sunwell |
| 14:58.24 | nevcairiel | they dont want guild to beat the encounters on PTR, they want guilds to test them |
| 14:58.29 | nevcairiel | thats why they remove the first ones |
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| 14:58.37 | nevcairiel | that you cant study them and get them 100% perfect |
| 14:58.41 | nevcairiel | and test the other fights |
| 14:58.46 | Lukian | Kivin, see PM when you can |
| 14:59.27 | syeren | No one argued such a point O_o; |
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| 15:04.20 | nevcairiel | You should never forget that the PTR's are for blizzard to test the new stuff, if you expect them to support your guild in learning and killing the new content, you are way off |
| 15:05.28 | nevcairiel | they are probably happy if some boss remains unbeaten on the PTR |
| 15:06.15 | Ozguli` | make sure to write strategies anyway |
| 15:06.27 | FinalX | They also lower the power of some bosses on purpose to make it easier for you to beat them, or remove some skills from them. |
| 15:06.44 | FinalX | And that's only because they want you to try to see if there's any bugs on the next bosses. |
| 15:06.50 | FinalX | They keep adjusting shit :) |
| 15:07.07 | nevcairiel | or any bugs in the remaining (maybe more complex) logic of the other abilities |
| 15:07.37 | FinalX | Brutallus being enslavable was certainly fun though :p |
| 15:07.57 | Lemming2K | is there a simple example wich shows how to create a button that does something when you click it? |
| 15:07.57 | Fisker- | a shame you can't kill outdoor brutallus |
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| 15:27.30 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r62884 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.cn.lua: |
| 15:27.30 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:27.30 | CIA-9 | - zhCN boss names update |
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| 15:29.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- |
| 15:29.30 | sag_ich_nicht | wanna know my newest troll? :> |
| 15:30.57 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62885 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: fixed alpha when using gradients |
| 15:31.55 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r62886 10AtlasLoot/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:31.55 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:31.55 | CIA-9 | - migrate loottable to use more Babble functions and AL values. Externalize some translation to constants |
| 15:33.27 | doc^bla | how do I do something like Test..i:Show() properly? |
| 15:33.44 | nevcairiel | depends |
| 15:33.53 | nevcairiel | if Test1 is a local variable |
| 15:33.54 | nevcairiel | you cant |
| 15:34.02 | nevcairiel | if its a global, you can do _G["Test" .. i] |
| 15:34.16 | nevcairiel | if its a table member, do tbl["Test" .. i] |
| 15:34.16 | doc^bla | yes, local |
| 15:34.30 | nevcairiel | then you're out of luck |
| 15:34.32 | Xinhuan | lua> ("%.2x%.2x%.2x%.2x"):format(0, 10, 30, 80) |
| 15:34.32 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 000a1e50 |
| 15:34.47 | Xinhuan | lua> ("%.2X%.2X%.2X%.2X"):format(0, 10, 30, 80) |
| 15:34.47 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 000A1E50 |
| 15:35.54 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r62887 10/branches/Lunatic/frames.lua: Lunatic: fixed elements moveing |
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| 15:36.57 | kenlyric | neat, the fonts in pitbull changed sometime last night... an update to fonts? |
| 15:37.18 | break19 | kenlyric: I blame communists. |
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| 15:39.19 | Fisker- | sure sag_ich_nicht |
| 15:39.23 | Fisker- | i love trolling |
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| 15:41.02 | break19 | heh |
| 15:44.00 | syeren | Is the author of Mana Surge here? |
| 15:44.14 | syeren | keiss :P? |
| 15:44.42 | syeren | kenlyric, check the changelog :p |
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| 15:47.33 | syeren | keiss: ping |
| 15:47.57 | keiss | syeren: yes ? |
| 15:48.16 | syeren | Anyway you can make your nice little addon not spam my chat :)? |
| 15:48.36 | syeren | http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5599/wowscrnshot022508154022zs4.jpg |
| 15:48.37 | syeren | :< |
| 15:49.01 | keiss | oops ... i forgot debugging turned on :D |
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| 15:49.55 | syeren | Ah keiss, It says debugging is turned off when I was checking if it was that :d |
| 15:49.58 | keiss | syeren: actually , i didnt |
| 15:50.11 | Fisker- | i'm spinning around |
| 15:50.21 | keiss | syeren: ah your right ... will fix in a second |
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| 15:50.32 | syeren | Awesome, thanks :) |
| 15:52.08 | syeren | Paid Character Transfer Cool Down have been reduced to 1 month from 3. |
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| 15:52.40 | keiss | CIA is somewhat slow today :) |
| 15:52.56 | keiss | syeren: anyway its fixed , so just wait till it gets updated on WAU ... ~10mins |
| 15:54.01 | Chaud | 20.00€ / £15.00 = ~30usd? |
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| 15:55.37 | syeren | Yup. |
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| 15:56.04 | Chaud | so is that a price increase for PCT for EU? |
| 15:56.19 | syeren | No. |
| 15:56.25 | nevcairiel | was 30€ before |
| 15:56.26 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 15:56.51 | Chaud | =\ guess we had it better in US then |
| 15:57.06 | Fisker- | not as far as i know |
| 15:57.27 | Fisker- | always been 20€ i believe |
| 15:57.44 | nevcairiel | oh well i didnt tranfer anything |
| 15:57.48 | nevcairiel | but from reading that post |
| 15:57.55 | nevcairiel | did they increase name change from 8€ to 20€ ? |
| 15:58.04 | syeren | Nope :p |
| 15:58.27 | Chaud | that was just for xfer |
| 15:58.40 | nevcairiel | kinda misleading |
| 15:58.50 | Fisker- | n? |
| 15:58.55 | Fisker- | s/n?/?/ |
| 15:58.57 | Fisker- | and what not |
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| 16:07.54 | Tifi | does AceLocale-2.2 have support for umlauts? or do i have to find out the \195\xxx codes? |
| 16:08.23 | nevcairiel | if you store the file as proper UTF-8, you can use the umlauts directly |
| 16:08.34 | nevcairiel | if you dont, you kill your addon |
| 16:08.57 | Matrix110| | just fuck localisation and tell them to use enGB client :P |
| 16:08.58 | Tifi | k |
| 16:09.03 | Tifi | xD |
| 16:09.13 | nevcairiel | its always safer to simply use the codes |
| 16:09.19 | nevcairiel | lua> "ä" |
| 16:09.19 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: ä |
| 16:09.21 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 16:09.21 | Matrix110| | using the german client is a pain in the arse nobody should do that |
| 16:09.37 | nevcairiel | well if you do that in game, it'll spout the code at you =P |
| 16:10.13 | nevcairiel | lua> string.byte("ä") |
| 16:10.14 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 228 |
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| 16:10.17 | Tifi | hmm how do i set it to utf-8 in gvim? |
| 16:10.24 | nevcairiel | lua> string.byte("ä", 2) |
| 16:10.25 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: No output |
| 16:10.51 | FinalX | Tifi: same way as normal vim, i guess, it also reads ~/.vimrc |
| 16:11.14 | keiss | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.45 | keiss | Tifi: anyway if you copied my file and are just editing it , it should be in utf8 |
| 16:12.57 | Tifi | says latin1 |
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| 16:13.43 | nevcairiel | maybe its utf8 without BOM |
| 16:13.58 | nevcairiel | which should be good enough anyway |
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| 16:17.42 | keiss | Tifi: actually its 'fileencoding' or 'fenc' |
| 16:17.42 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r62890 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 16:17.43 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:17.43 | CIA-9 | -frFR update |
| 16:18.04 | Chaud | is there an addon that hides all of the low ranks of spells in the spellbook? |
| 16:18.18 | Ozguli` | why would you want to do that? |
| 16:18.40 | keiss | doubt there is |
| 16:18.41 | basslingo | hehe Warriors dont have that issue :) |
| 16:19.46 | SunTsu | keiss: You could put -- vim: set fileencoding=utf-8 into your file so vim always sets the ritght encoding |
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| 16:20.38 | keiss | SunTsu: well i have my .vimrc set ... wasnt for me anyway -> Tifi |
| 16:21.02 | Chaud | someone was complaining about how they dont want to open spellbook and look through a million spells |
| 16:21.19 | SunTsu | keiss: I know, but it was your file originally, right? |
| 16:22.19 | Ozguli` | Chaud that someone should just stop using spellbook to cast spells |
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| 16:22.38 | CIA-9 | 03loganfive * r62891 10AlchemyList/AlchemyList.toc: AlchemyList: removed curse.com as a release site, added wowace.com as the URL |
| 16:23.12 | Ozguli` | Important changes. |
| 16:23.39 | keiss | SunTsu: the original file is in utf8 dunno why Tifi had it set to latin1 in gvim |
| 16:24.48 | FinalX | hm, any sites with good tutorials on "my first hello world as wow addon"? |
| 16:25.35 | Chaud | I geuss, I wouldn't mind just having rank 1 and max rank shown myself =p |
| 16:25.42 | keiss | blizzard has one in the AddOn kit ? |
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| 16:26.27 | FinalX | keiss: hm, haven't seen the addon kit before, i'm completely new with writing addons, like, really new. i've only used them up till now :p |
| 16:27.20 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 16:27.22 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 16:27.22 | vhaarr | http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 16:27.31 | Grum | FinalX: enjoying the deep-diving :P |
| 16:27.43 | keiss | or that if you want ace-specific .. :) |
| 16:28.23 | FinalX | vhaarr: Yeah, just found that, looks interesting :) |
| 16:28.30 | FinalX | Grum: uh-huh :P |
| 16:28.45 | FinalX | eh, nevcairiel even, nerf bots. |
| 16:28.49 | Grum | what are you making? |
| 16:29.33 | FinalX | I want a small frame with semi-transparant background that just shows defense stats for my pally and all, updating when I switch gear and all.. |
| 16:30.17 | FinalX | And just that.. but I don't want it on FuBar, but on my screen, small in size and show/hidable with /-commands :p |
| 16:30.30 | FinalX | (or with keybindings..) |
| 16:30.48 | FinalX | and maybe show other stuff for other classes ;p |
| 16:30.53 | Grum | i wonder which part you'll find hardest |
| 16:31.03 | Grum | the calculation or the display :) |
| 16:31.12 | FinalX | Display, probably :P |
| 16:31.14 | Grum | i'd start with the calculation first :P |
| 16:31.19 | doc^bla | :> |
| 16:31.48 | Grum | if you can show it in a chatwindow its also easy to show somewhere in a frame :) |
| 16:31.53 | FinalX | Calculating it by hand isn't hard from the "Defenses" tab, and I guess that's obtainable through the API as well? |
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| 16:32.25 | SunTsu | FinalX: Didn't AbramsFu do what you wanted? |
| 16:32.47 | FinalX | SunTsu: Haven't checked it yet, but that very much sounds like a FuBar addon |
| 16:33.16 | FinalX | plus i wanna start with writing addons anyway :o |
| 16:33.25 | SunTsu | FinalX: Yeah, it is |
| 16:33.56 | Grum | FinalX: i'd start with any AceConsole and just print the message to a window, then figure out the frame part after you have all the data :) |
| 16:34.08 | Grum | then it starts out usable and will look nicer later ;D |
| 16:34.13 | FinalX | Grum: yeah, was planning on doing that :) |
| 16:34.20 | FinalX | thanks for the tips :) |
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| 16:35.10 | Grum | haha first time the blizz torents actually go fast for me |
| 16:35.23 | FinalX | hehe |
| 16:35.41 | Grum | go ptr i guess |
| 16:35.51 | FinalX | I usually download them on my colo with 1gbit full open, then add myself as a peer at home later :o |
| 16:36.18 | Grum | i usually just stay away from torrents ;D |
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| 16:37.07 | SunTsu | Grum: Torrent is great, lots of linux distributors use it for .iso |
| 16:37.36 | Grum | torrent uses more than just sending 'ack' packets when i'm downloading :D |
| 16:38.24 | Matrix110| | i dont think you actually send ack packages when dling via udp? :P |
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| 16:41.06 | Matrix110| | oh |
| 16:41.16 | Matrix110| | BT doesnt use udp it seems according to wikipedia :P |
| 16:41.24 | nevcairiel | exactly :P |
| 16:41.43 | Matrix110| | wonder why |
| 16:41.58 | nevcairiel | easier to use behind routers |
| 16:42.05 | Matrix110| | ic |
| 16:42.13 | nevcairiel | once a connection is established, its working :) |
| 16:42.37 | Matrix110| | but many p2p applications use udp |
| 16:42.39 | Grum | Matrix110|: anything else than straight downloading is wasting my upload |
| 16:42.42 | Matrix110| | iirc edonkey used it |
| 16:42.44 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r62892 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: add enrage timer |
| 16:42.48 | Grum | i cba to provide others with my upstream |
| 16:43.06 | Matrix110| | Grum i know i usually dont use torrents aswell when there is another DL Source :P |
| 16:43.31 | Matrix110| | having 196kbits Upload where ~80% is already used for sending "ack" packages when DLing full speed pretty much sucks :P |
| 16:43.48 | nevcairiel | haha people even write macros now to swap bags on PTR |
| 16:43.55 | Matrix110| | ??? |
| 16:44.02 | nevcairiel | wonder if they know that zoning removes the effect |
| 16:44.09 | doc^bla | isn't it fixed? |
| 16:44.12 | Matrix110| | why would you want to swap bags? |
| 16:44.32 | nevcairiel | nah wasnt fixed yet |
| 16:44.46 | Grum | humz are the mp5 stats fucked btw? |
| 16:44.59 | Grum | i just logged in and it claimed to give me a stunning 114mp5 while casting |
| 16:45.09 | nevcairiel | on ptr? |
| 16:45.09 | Matrix110| | is that better or worse than before? |
| 16:45.10 | Grum | where that would normally be 200+ on nonPTR: P |
| 16:45.17 | Matrix110| | because they changed the mechanic of mp5 |
| 16:45.27 | nevcairiel | they didnt change the mp5 mechanic |
| 16:45.29 | Matrix110| | orwell not mp5 |
| 16:45.31 | Matrix110| | but regen |
| 16:45.31 | nevcairiel | they changed the spirit mechanic |
| 16:45.32 | Grum | i think it was actually my mp5 stat |
| 16:45.32 | Matrix110| | from spirit |
| 16:45.35 | Grum | i get ~114 from gear |
| 16:45.55 | nevcairiel | Grum: on live or ptr? |
| 16:45.58 | Grum | ptr |
| 16:46.06 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 16:46.20 | syeren | Hey guys. |
| 16:46.22 | syeren | I got a new UI. |
| 16:46.26 | syeren | What do you think? |
| 16:46.27 | syeren | http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7939/sweetuisc9.jpg |
| 16:46.28 | Matrix110| | try reequipping all gear Grum :P |
| 16:46.47 | Grum | mm k |
| 16:46.48 | Matrix110| | owns syeren |
| 16:46.49 | nevcairiel | man thats so fucking ugly =P |
| 16:47.00 | Grum | syeren: you are not using xrs? nab |
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| 16:47.13 | nevcairiel | WTS UIScale |
| 16:47.37 | Matrix110| | there was some screenshot of a guy having 3 complete raid frames on his UI that looked so funny |
| 16:47.38 | [Ammo] | syeren: wow |
| 16:47.41 | [Ammo] | syeren: awesome |
| 16:47.55 | haste | at least the damage meter is scaled |
| 16:47.57 | syeren | THANKS GUYS :D |
| 16:48.02 | SunTsu | syeren: There's still a spot left, you could put xrs there |
| 16:48.32 | nevcairiel | thats why i dont like buffbars |
| 16:48.35 | nevcairiel | they eat up so much space |
| 16:49.02 | haste | I just limit my buff bars to 4, so I can see what I need to cast, if any |
| 16:50.05 | Grum | oh mmm |
| 16:50.14 | Grum | i prolly need to spec holy first? O>o |
| 16:50.26 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 16:50.28 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:50.30 | nevcairiel | i had that too |
| 16:50.35 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r62893 10/branches/mHud/ (56 files in 16 dirs): |
| 16:50.35 | CIA-9 | mHud: |
| 16:50.35 | CIA-9 | New: Skin scheme cArchThin |
| 16:50.35 | CIA-9 | New: Abyss, keeps track of the minimum bar vale within the last x seconds. (has no config ATM) |
| 16:50.35 | CIA-9 | Change: Replaced globals with LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon(), not tested for energy users. |
| 16:50.36 | CIA-9 | Fix: DogTag should be correctly re-created when changing or resetting profile |
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| 16:54.05 | Grum | pfew, thats more like it |
| 16:54.11 | Grum | 255 unbuffed |
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| 17:11.48 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r62894 10Manasurge/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:11.48 | CIA-9 | Manasurge: |
| 17:11.48 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.48 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.48 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.27 | Tifi | hmm how long does it take for http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml to update? |
| 17:18.41 | keiss | 10mins +/- |
| 17:18.56 | Grum | 20m, 3x per hour |
| 17:19.12 | Tifi | heh |
| 17:19.38 | Tifi | that's funny because both of you are right ^^ |
| 17:20.08 | sag_ich_nicht | LF Documentation of embeds.xml |
| 17:20.17 | Grum | there is none sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:20.34 | sag_ich_nicht | well fuck it |
| 17:20.42 | Tifi | documentation? |
| 17:21.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i am too lazy to download a non-non-ext build of an addon to read it from there |
| 17:21.05 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:21.26 | Funkeh` | non-ext embeds.xml is cleared |
| 17:21.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. |
| 17:21.39 | Funkeh` | ok |
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| 17:21.45 | sag_ich_nicht | that's why i said too lazy to download a non-non-ext build. |
| 17:21.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:22.12 | Grum | just look at fish? |
| 17:22.17 | keiss | you could have downloaded it by now ... :D |
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| 17:23.09 | Tifi | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Manasurge/embeds.xml mr. lazy |
| 17:23.15 | sag_ich_nicht | pfff |
| 17:23.22 | sag_ich_nicht | k thx |
| 17:23.23 | Tifi | ^^ |
| 17:23.29 | Tifi | yw |
| 17:24.55 | Grum | is it me or does this look strange: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Routes |
| 17:25.20 | Grum | i just see 2 files O.o |
| 17:25.49 | break19 | anyone know if there's an addon that does the buff/debuff highlighting on the actionbar? (using default bliz actionbars+ipopbar) |
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| 17:27.03 | break19 | grum: what browser you using? it looks fine to me |
| 17:27.17 | Grum | break19: how many deleted files do you see? |
| 17:28.17 | Megalon | Grum: 6 |
| 17:28.22 | Grum | it should be ... 0! |
| 17:28.33 | Grum | look @ http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Routes/ |
| 17:28.44 | Grum | all the 'deleted files' are actually there |
| 17:29.08 | break19 | grum: fish is a log, and those files were deleted from the branch, and moved to trunk.. |
| 17:29.22 | break19 | they havent been changed since then, so thats the action that fisheye displays |
| 17:29.32 | Grum | they arent the same files :) |
| 17:29.52 | break19 | as far as svn is concerned, they are. since the branch was moved to trunk.. :) |
| 17:30.19 | Grum | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~br=Routes/WowAce/trunk/Routes <-- seems the right 'view' |
| 17:30.52 | Grum | if it want to know something about a branch i'll look at the branch, stupid fish! |
| 17:31.53 | break19 | grum: if you dont select a branch it shows the latest changes of all branches.. |
| 17:32.03 | break19 | and yes, it considers trunk a branch. :) |
| 17:32.14 | Grum | *crai* |
| 17:32.38 | break19 | don't poke the fish :( |
| 17:32.57 | break19 | ~seen ag` |
| 17:32.59 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x535b3bba.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 21h 53m 16s ago, saying: 'forgot about it'. |
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| 17:33.30 | break19 | almost a week!? zomg, quick! someone take over aguf! |
| 17:33.32 | break19 | heh |
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| 17:38.43 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone happen to know how many args UNIT_MANA and UNIT_MAXMANA have? D: |
| 17:38.49 | sag_ich_nicht | (and what they are) |
| 17:39.05 | ckknight | just unit |
| 17:39.15 | sag_ich_nicht | oh okay |
| 17:39.20 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r62895 10Manasurge/ (core.lua locale/deDE.lua): |
| 17:39.21 | CIA-9 | Manasurge: |
| 17:39.21 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:40.28 | Erica | Ckknight: Thank you for resolving the shared media issue on Cowtip! :) |
| 17:41.19 | ckknight | :-) |
| 17:41.40 | TE|kulaar | should the 2.4 recount branch run on ptr? |
| 17:41.57 | Funkeh` | try it and see/ |
| 17:42.06 | TE|kulaar | i dont get it running |
| 17:42.15 | TE|kulaar | thats the reason im askin :) |
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| 17:42.28 | Funkeh` | I guess not then :) |
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| 17:42.41 | Elsia | heya |
| 17:43.29 | break19 | TE|kulaar: there's the person to ask.... |
| 17:43.44 | TE|kulaar | who? |
| 17:43.47 | TE|kulaar | Elsia ? |
| 17:43.51 | break19 | *G* |
| 17:43.51 | TE|kulaar | ! |
| 17:44.04 | Elsia | yay, free blame. what's the problem? ;) |
| 17:44.25 | break19 | he's unable to get recount2.4 to work on ptr.. take it away TE|kulaar |
| 17:45.02 | Elsia | PMing |
| 17:45.25 | break19 | while I'm bored, does someone wanna give me some info on how I would go about modifying the border of the default bliz action buttons? or where to look for said info? |
| 17:46.02 | break19 | i'm wanting to write an addon to add buff/debuff highlighting to the borders of spells on my bar.. without having to download a whole barmod.. |
| 17:46.36 | Erica | That would be kool... but even Bongos seems to have issues with that |
| 17:46.47 | Erica | works sometimes and then just stops working |
| 17:47.23 | Jaxon | If I was you, I'd look at the secure button templates, find out what spell is shown in that button and then modify that based on your buff/debuff rules. |
| 17:47.30 | break19 | yea, im aware of problems that can happen.. but i still want to give it a shot.. im just at a complete loss.. most of my addons never modify anything, but add stuff instead... |
| 17:47.45 | break19 | Jaxon: k |
| 17:48.00 | Erica | may want to look at the code in bongos too and see if you can improve it for stability imo |
| 17:48.02 | Jaxon | But I've never written anything for WoW so whatever I just said is just conjecture. |
| 17:48.57 | Erica | lol |
| 17:49.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i should just slap it into luaslinger |
| 17:50.01 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: At least you don't suffer from exaggerated self-esteem ;) |
| 17:50.19 | sag_ich_nicht | if i'd show you the code you would probably hurt me |
| 17:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | so yeah. |
| 17:51.37 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Maybe you will get slapped anyways, just for the fun of it |
| 17:52.03 | sag_ich_nicht | okay let's see if this works |
| 17:52.09 | sag_ich_nicht | it will probably break horribly |
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| 17:57.14 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62896 10kgPanelsConfig/ (4 files in 2 dirs): kgPanelsConfig: updated FAQ, cleaned up some functions. Export/Import now functional |
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| 18:01.16 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62897 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: stubbed a non functional crop |
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| 18:17.15 | nevcairiel | anyone else had the bug that you cant see raid chat anymore on the PTR? |
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| 18:18.56 | Xinhuan | haven't actually been on a raid yet |
| 18:18.58 | Xinhuan | in PTR |
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| 18:21.37 | NeoTron | we opted not go to raid last night |
| 18:21.50 | NeoTron | because I don't think we're ready for felmyst in general so it'd been a waste of time |
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| 18:26.13 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r62898 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 18:26.13 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:26.13 | CIA-9 | - Modify WishList frame text to use AL function |
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| 18:27.13 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:27.13 | CIA-9 | - Modify WishList frame text to use AL function |
| 18:28.08 | kebinusan | Is there any fairly easy way to see which libs I might have in my addons dir are no longer needed |
| 18:28.35 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62900 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Add Sunwell alliance data (commented out). |
| 18:28.36 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r62901 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua): |
| 18:28.36 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:28.36 | CIA-9 | - extracted some NPC names from loottables to constant. migrate loottables.tw.lua to use Babble and AL functions |
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| 18:29.20 | Fisker- | nevcairiel chat settings are fucked |
| 18:29.34 | Fisker- | just right click on the chat-tab and settings and readd the channels you want |
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| 18:29.55 | break19 | lmao.. my wife was on her 70 hunter, said "I need to do sethekk" to one of her guildies... he goes "Sorry, only 1slot left and we need dps" |
| 18:30.15 | Fisker- | drama drama drama |
| 18:30.16 | Fisker- | go |
| 18:31.29 | break19 | heh.. she outdps'ed my guild's firemage in slabs... barely, but still did. |
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| 18:32.14 | break19 | and our mage is good.. |
| 18:32.17 | Saroz_ | whats a good image converter? |
| 18:32.33 | break19 | for what os? |
| 18:32.38 | Saroz_ | win |
| 18:32.50 | break19 | i said OS, not hack... |
| 18:32.58 | NeoTron | me and some friends ran RFK last night |
| 18:33.00 | break19 | but psp is prolly fine |
| 18:33.13 | NeoTron | it was fun. Group was: 28 hunter, 2x23 warrior (dps spec), 1x priest (shadow) |
| 18:33.14 | break19 | paintshoppro.. |
| 18:33.18 | NeoTron | priest was 22 |
| 18:33.46 | NeoTron | got help from a 40 shaman after we had killed the first 3 bosses or so but still |
| 18:34.05 | keiss | Saroz_: imagemagick |
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| 18:34.41 | NeoTron | I learned sometihng too - the bats in RFK are level 26 and come with Dive |
| 18:34.48 | NeoTron | however when you leave the instance they forget Dive... |
| 18:34.52 | NeoTron | :-( |
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| 18:37.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
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| 18:38.22 | break19 | neo. weird. |
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| 18:42.22 | NeoTron | it's a bummer but I'll get dive in a level |
| 18:42.32 | NeoTron | just got l30 and lowest bird with dive is l31 |
| 18:43.22 | kebinusan | 48MB used by addons :-( |
| 18:43.47 | NeoTron | kebinusan: long ago since I was that low :P |
| 18:43.48 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 18:44.53 | kebinusan | there we go, 24, guess it helps if I remember to gut out recount |
| 18:45.27 | NeoTron | recount can be a beast |
| 18:46.07 | Zedde | Hello, I have seen that the bigwigs updates alot |
| 18:46.20 | Zedde | something special ? |
| 18:46.29 | Lukian | kebinusan, 99MB :D |
| 18:46.32 | Lukian | wtb 2.4 :D |
| 18:46.51 | Hjalte | Does anyone know, if From A View To A Kill Fu works when being raid assist? It says raid leader in tooltip. |
| 18:46.54 | kebinusan | Lukian: until the unfuck lifetap it can stay on the ptr thnx |
| 18:47.12 | Lukian | spec dark pact? XD |
| 18:47.33 | kebinusan | yeah 1 pact and the imp is oom and then lifetap STILL sucks |
| 18:47.44 | Lukian | Zedde, it's probably the most up to date of all bossmods addons |
| 18:47.46 | nevcairiel | QQ |
| 18:47.47 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:48.58 | NeoTron | Lukian: yeah, speccing in a way that allows your DPS to drop by ~500 sounds like win! |
| 18:49.10 | NeoTron | they need to buff affliction for sure |
| 18:49.11 | Lukian | NeoTron, haha |
| 18:49.44 | kebinusan | eh, 1 afflic lock in the raid is sorta needed |
| 18:49.50 | kebinusan | despite the personal dps loss |
| 18:49.50 | NeoTron | kebinusan: no it really isn't |
| 18:50.05 | Lukian | NeoTron, http://www.wowblues.com/us/blizz-says-its-a-bug-not-a-change-to-lt-4913821480.html |
| 18:50.13 | Lukian | is that how it's meant to be |
| 18:50.23 | NeoTron | what does it give you taht's so essential? 3% more damage from the curse is less than the loss of DPS |
| 18:50.24 | kebinusan | Lukian: and thats still terrible |
| 18:50.34 | NeoTron | the use of an IMP by a destro lock still leaves you doing more DPS than an affliction lock |
| 18:50.36 | Lukian | "As it has been explained to me it should be 15% of maximum health for 15% of maximum mana." |
| 18:50.52 | kebinusan | yeah, thats total ass |
| 18:50.59 | NeoTron | Lukian: that is how it is, and it's fucked up because it punishes locks for itemization we don't control |
| 18:51.24 | NeoTron | it is especially bad if you spec for tanking and run around with 17-18k health and 7-8k mana |
| 18:51.32 | NeoTron | or rather, gear for tanking |
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| 18:51.49 | kebinusan | yeah lifetaping on leo or illidan will be a hoot eh |
| 18:52.05 | TE|kulaar | lol ptrs go down :/ |
| 18:52.12 | NeoTron | it's be teh fun |
| 18:52.47 | NeoTron | I'll love getting 1.2k mana back for 2500 health! |
| 18:52.55 | NeoTron | I mean I can almost cast 3 shadow bolts after that |
| 18:53.15 | kebinusan | yeah not to mention fights like najentus, it would make it even more difficult to LT |
| 18:53.35 | NeoTron | people fail to realize that warlocks generate zero mana while casting and have no other abilities to regen mana plus we have horrible mana efficiency |
| 18:53.44 | Groktar-Impulse | " Yes there is a bug with lifetap only returning mana based on your current mana instead of your maximum mana. This is being worked on." |
| 18:53.53 | NeoTron | Groktar-Impulse: that is long fixed |
| 18:54.00 | kebinusan | our DPM significantly lower than mages |
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| 18:54.12 | NeoTron | plus mages generate plenty of mana while casting |
| 18:54.26 | Groktar-Impulse | only if they have mage armor |
| 18:54.30 | Groktar-Impulse | which they usually don't |
| 18:54.35 | NeoTron | especially if using mage armor (and don't whine about losing 3% crit - if you need mana mage armor is better. if you don't I don't feel sorry) |
| 18:54.49 | kebinusan | IMO if they wanted to do that LT change, it should be 15% of health turned iinto mana, and then change soul leech to either return mana or return overheal as mana |
| 18:54.50 | NeoTron | Groktar-Impulse: point is, they have a choice |
| 18:54.59 | Paradox | ckknight: tried to change the minimap size in chinchilla from 90 to 91% and my wow instantly crashed ;p |
| 18:55.11 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
| 18:55.15 | NeoTron | kebinusan: would make A LOT more sense but I feel the chanve is to nerf us in pve |
| 18:55.18 | Groktar-Impulse | my only option on my shadowpriest is to chug pots every cooldown |
| 18:55.21 | NeoTron | s/pve/pvp/ |
| 18:55.30 | ckknight | also, Paradox, can't reproduce |
| 18:55.42 | NeoTron | Groktar-Impulse: yeah because you don't regen mana via 30% spirit or via VT or anything |
| 18:55.57 | NeoTron | and it's not like your mind flay is extremely high DPM either ;-) |
| 18:56.00 | kebinusan | yeah, well thast part of the problem tho everyone can only guess what the reason for the change is because they didnt really tell us anything |
| 18:56.25 | NeoTron | if they made soul leech return any overhealing as mana in a 1 to 1 ratio this change to life tap wouldn't be so bad |
| 18:56.44 | kebinusan | its pretty clear that its a poorly thought out change by someone out of touch with the warlock class, or Kalgan rerolled a mage |
| 18:56.45 | Groktar-Impulse | priest dps gear doesn't exactly have spirit |
| 18:57.02 | kebinusan | t6 spriest gear has plenty of mp5 on it |
| 18:57.03 | kagaro | Groktar-Impulse: I only chug on really long fights like alar |
| 18:57.25 | kagaro | !c us-ysera moonfann |
| 18:57.32 | NeoTron | should be noted that I already chain chug mana pots on fights where movement is limited or there's significant raid damage |
| 18:57.58 | kagaro | Groktar-Impulse: whats you buffed mana pool? |
| 18:58.10 | NeoTron | Groktar-Impulse: I think you strongly underestimate the effect of zero mp5 and zero spirit regen |
| 19:00.00 | NeoTron | if they wanted to increase the health cost of life tap, at least maintain or buff the mana return |
| 19:00.32 | Fisker- | buff holy paladins |
| 19:00.52 | kebinusan | NeoTron: but as a PVP nerf its stupid warlocks arent a pvp threat if you look at every bracket in 2's its warrior/druid over and over.. and in 3's and 5's our mana return from lifetap is les sof an issue |
| 19:01.07 | kebinusan | especially when you take into account that they completely raped mana drain with the resilience change |
| 19:01.19 | NeoTron | they also nerfed mana drain |
| 19:01.27 | NeoTron | since it no longer scaled with +dmg at all |
| 19:01.31 | NeoTron | as if it was ever any good |
| 19:01.36 | kebinusan | yeah the previous patch |
| 19:01.40 | NeoTron | no in 2.4 |
| 19:01.47 | kebinusan | when they made soul siphon not affect it either |
| 19:01.56 | NeoTron | right that was previous |
| 19:01.57 | kebinusan | it doestn scale with dmg in live |
| 19:02.14 | NeoTron | then why the change saying it doesn't? ah well, can't expect them to know how stuff works... |
| 19:02.59 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.08 | NeoTron | previous notes: Drain Mana: This ability no longer increases in power from bonus spell damage effects. Base points of the effect increased by 50%. |
| 19:03.33 | NeoTron | in either case I haven't used that spell in forever |
| 19:03.37 | NeoTron | so I honestly don't know |
| 19:03.57 | kebinusan | probably just clarifying the tooltip, but they reverted that 50% bonus |
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| 19:04.10 | NeoTron | yeah I know |
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| 19:07.21 | Dashkal | *blink*: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4913821490&postId=49133294675&sid=1#114 (re LT change) |
| 19:07.53 | NeoTron | the more I think about it, the better the idea ot return mana from Soul Leech is |
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| 19:10.00 | NeoTron | I guess that confirms it |
| 19:11.24 | Dashkal | About the only way his post makes any sense if is they radically alter the PvE gear to favour Int over Sta |
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| 19:12.49 | kebinusan | and they wont |
| 19:13.01 | kebinusan | again we see a PVE nerf because of PVP |
| 19:13.11 | kebinusan | its bullshit |
| 19:13.30 | Dashkal | *sighs* looks like I'm rolling a mage instead of a lock next. Till now I hadn't decided |
| 19:13.49 | kebinusan | cant wait for that ISB nerf to make it on the PTR as well |
| 19:14.39 | NeoTron | kebinusan: yeah. that oen I am looking forward too. Nice buff to my DPS |
| 19:15.01 | NeoTron | too bad for the shadow priests though |
| 19:15.14 | kebinusan | NeoTron: well it depends, if you have 3 locks in your riad its pretty easy to have near 100% uptime on ISB |
| 19:15.17 | Chaud | rofl, you dont want a mage |
| 19:15.35 | Dashkal | Chaud: It was one or the other. I wanted a caster DPS |
| 19:15.59 | Dashkal | Sides, mages are near the top of the noisy croud, and blizzard does tend to grease the squeaky ones... |
| 19:16.18 | Dashkal | Sadly they don't seem to actually think the change through |
| 19:16.30 | Paradox | is there a way to remove the [X] on the recount window, anyone know? |
| 19:16.55 | NeoTron | kebinusan: with 3 dest locks, 1-2 shadow priests, I gain 10% dmg from ISB |
| 19:17.01 | kebinusan | Dont worry Kalgan will tire of his mage and maybe re-roll a warlock |
| 19:17.08 | CIA-9 | 03gamefaq * r62902 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 19:17.08 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: |
| 19:17.08 | CIA-9 | - deDE Update |
| 19:17.14 | Thalie | kalgan needs to roll a shaman |
| 19:17.17 | NeoTron | it won't really be a destro lock nerf |
| 19:17.29 | CIA-9 | 03gamefaq * r62903 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: deDE Update |
| 19:17.38 | kebinusan | they really seem out of touch with their classes though |
| 19:17.38 | Thalie | see how long it takes him to 'rock his s3 weapon' |
| 19:18.20 | kebinusan | how about giving locks a real defensive ability if you want them not to be able to lifetap in pvp |
| 19:18.29 | Thalie | fear isn't a defensive ability |
| 19:18.32 | kebinusan | give every lock shadowfury and make it a pbaoe |
| 19:19.01 | Thalie | when locks can't completely shut someone down with dots, fear, lolcoil, etc... then maybe they'll get something else |
| 19:19.38 | kebinusan | umm yeah.. what pre 2.3 world are you living in |
| 19:20.57 | xyu | locks are fine |
| 19:21.09 | kebinusan | apparently not |
| 19:21.31 | xyu | They're more than fine in PvE |
| 19:25.16 | [Liquidor] | http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/982/messyva8.jpghttp://img138.imageshack.us/img138/982/messyva8.jpg |
| 19:27.54 | Gamefaq | O.o |
| 19:28.13 | [Liquidor] | http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/982/messyva8.jpg * |
| 19:28.14 | Tornhoof | nice ui |
| 19:28.28 | Gamefaq | full ui... |
| 19:29.46 | Hjalte | I used to have something like that, although not that bad, when I was a healer. |
| 19:29.50 | TE|kulaar | is there a download on curse for this? |
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| 19:34.11 | Pkekyo| | [Liquidor]: trying to provoque an epileptic seizure? |
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| 19:36.37 | kagaro | [Liquidor]: you blindd me with that pic |
| 19:36.53 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/82930 any ideas why it still prints the message on each firing of UNIT_MANA("player") after going below the alert threshold? |
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| 19:38.22 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: you're declaring fuckyou as local every time you set it |
| 19:38.28 | ckknight | creating it in a new scope |
| 19:38.32 | ckknight | instead of changing the previous one |
| 19:39.33 | sag_ich_nicht | i figured something like that already :> |
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| 19:39.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 19:39.45 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
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| 19:46.44 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: ping :) |
| 19:47.17 | Chaud | "Quite honestly, we wanted warlocks to take a larger hit to their hit points when lifetapping in PvP. While in PvP, this means they will take a bigger hit to their health, in PvE it will have smaller impact (and actually can be gamed for an improvement via higher intelligence and lower stamina)." |
| 19:47.44 | kebinusan | yeah fucking idiot |
| 19:47.44 | [SW]Dodge | pitbull aura bug -> http://i31.tinypic.com/b8tfro.jpg |
| 19:47.50 | kebinusan | just proves how out of touch they are with this game |
| 19:47.53 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: after the first declaration of local... use self.fuckyou :) |
| 19:48.00 | Chaud | pretty much they are bad |
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| 19:48.14 | kebinusan | Age of conan should be released shortly after 2.4 tho right? |
| 19:48.26 | kagaro | kebinusan: april i think |
| 19:48.55 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: http://pastey.net/82931 |
| 19:49.03 | Chaud | the next hyped up wow killer lol |
| 19:49.09 | sag_ich_nicht | break19: already coded it out :P |
| 19:49.23 | break19 | and that do it? :) |
| 19:50.51 | kebinusan | eh if this change goes live I will probably quit, it turns warlocks into shadow mages w/o the survivability or mana regen our frosty/firery cohorts get |
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| 19:51.17 | kebinusan | I seriously cant thing of anything beyond 'fucking stupid' to describe it |
| 19:51.28 | Birdemani | wait, someone threatening to quit due to a change? |
| 19:51.39 | Thalie | due to a change to the most OP class in the game |
| 19:51.40 | break19 | qq |
| 19:51.42 | Thalie | :) qq |
| 19:51.45 | kenlyric | well, i've never seen that happen before. |
| 19:52.05 | kebinusan | yeah, welcome to world of meleecraft |
| 19:52.11 | Birdemani | I wonder how many warriors "quit" during the 1.4 to 1.9 nerf spree |
| 19:52.15 | Thalie | except if you're a shaman, of course, keb |
| 19:52.28 | kenlyric | none |
| 19:52.47 | Birdemani | its FOTM for classes |
| 19:52.50 | kenlyric | ptr descends at a million voices cry out. Live hits and everyone forgets what changed in a week |
| 19:52.56 | Birdemani | every patch now someone gets some dumb change |
| 19:53.11 | Birdemani | they take the temp of the sheep, and the adjust it |
| 19:53.14 | kebinusan | no, Im tired of seeing pve nerfs for pvp |
| 19:53.16 | NeoTron | kenlyric: trust me, this change won't be forgotten |
| 19:53.21 | Birdemani | the initial change is always over done |
| 19:53.25 | kenlyric | sure it will |
| 19:53.29 | kenlyric | people will adapt, and move on |
| 19:53.30 | NeoTron | one thing not often pointed out is the impact it has on destro lock farming |
| 19:53.43 | Birdemani | the pve for pvp nerf shit has been happening since the HK shit went in |
| 19:53.46 | kenlyric | people always adapt and move on. |
| 19:54.01 | kebinusan | there is no real adapting from this |
| 19:54.10 | kebinusan | unless they reitemize all our gear or change this before it goes live |
| 19:54.24 | kenlyric | oh, i've never heard that gem before |
| 19:54.30 | Birdemani | ya, thats new |
| 19:54.33 | Thalie | you sound like a paladin |
| 19:54.46 | Birdemani | you sound like a warrior, rogue, mage, lock, pally, etc |
| 19:54.49 | Birdemani | get it? |
| 19:54.50 | Thalie | haha |
| 19:54.50 | kenlyric | you sound like EVERY FUCKING CLASS THAT HAS EVER BEEN NERFED |
| 19:55.03 | kenlyric | which, before now, was every class but a lock. |
| 19:55.10 | kenlyric | so, quit your bitching you overpowered fuckwad |
| 19:55.11 | Birdemani | today its you, with the next PTR update it will be someone else |
| 19:55.15 | kebinusan | yeah this would be like deciding illumination should return mana based on spirit |
| 19:55.29 | kenlyric | i'm still bitter about being nerfed and I wasn't even NERFED |
| 19:55.34 | NeoTron | kenlyric: that'd be an awesome change. would help alot |
| 19:55.41 | Birdemani | keb: I'm sure the pet scaling size is going live as well |
| 19:55.42 | Birdemani | relax |
| 19:55.46 | Thalie | shaman get nerfed every single patch in one way or another, despite being the most underrepresented class in the game |
| 19:55.49 | Thalie | qq |
| 19:55.50 | Birdemani | put in some chatter via in game shit |
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| 19:56.43 | Jaxon | Anyone happen to know where I could find talent trees for the classes when the game was launched? |
| 19:59.02 | NeoTron | Birdemani: who the heck uses pets as a warlock while raiding? |
| 19:59.14 | dre^ | jaxon: wayback machine, maybe |
| 19:59.39 | dre^ | (http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html) |
| 19:59.45 | kenlyric | if you play around here, you can find old trees http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?category_select_id=6&view=Talents.View |
| 20:00.30 | Chaud | locks are not THAT OP |
| 20:00.30 | kenlyric | I was once able to go back to a beta build of the priest tree, but don't remember exactly how now. |
| 20:00.34 | Chaud | anyway |
| 20:00.44 | sag_ich_nicht | break19: self. isn't needed |
| 20:01.03 | sb | is PTR up? |
| 20:01.11 | kenlyric | I have this bookmarked to remind myself how bad off holy priests used to be. |
| 20:01.21 | kenlyric | whenever i find myself crying about their role today. |
| 20:01.36 | Chaud | nope, went down for a new build |
| 20:01.40 | dre^ | wow this is WAY different than today, heh |
| 20:01.46 | Chaud | should bring another round of the leaked dev notes |
| 20:02.28 | Jaxon | dre^: I didn't think of that, thanks. |
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| 20:04.06 | dre^ | wouldn't it be cool if WotLK gave us 11 points instead of 10 by the time we hit 80? heh |
| 20:04.23 | kenlyric | beta priest calc http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Talents.View.Beta&category_select_id=6 |
| 20:04.33 | kenlyric | oh, goold old 21/30 build full of fail |
| 20:06.27 | Dashkal | dre^: There's some hope of that, actually. I remember some blue comments along the line of the specs getting somewhat "overspecialized" |
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| 20:07.27 | dre^ | Dashkal: that's good, I agree with that characaterization. then again, my two 70s are both hybrid classes, heh |
| 20:07.41 | dre^ | so I would say that |
| 20:07.44 | Thalie | i have a 70 of each hybrid, including priest... lol @ me |
| 20:07.56 | Dashkal | There we go. It was Kalgan in an interview |
| 20:08.04 | Dashkal | http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20312 |
| 20:08.07 | Thalie | kalgan is an idiot, fwiw |
| 20:08.19 | Thalie | in my opinion |
| 20:08.32 | Dashkal | won't argue, but he has commit access, so he's god *sighs* |
| 20:08.42 | Thalie | haha true |
| 20:09.23 | dre^ | I heard something about becoming more compliant with some sort of online gaming competition 'spec'... anybody know anything about that? |
| 20:11.14 | Dashkal | I believe that's part of the reason behind the next arena tourney using premades at the higher ranks |
| 20:11.38 | dre^ | ok, so putting gear differential out of the equation |
| 20:11.50 | dre^ | I was hoping for something like much tighter network code :/ |
| 20:12.17 | sylvanaar_work | have you all seen this: http://roflcon.org/ |
| 20:12.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: what does Parrot:ShowMessage expect for icon? |
| 20:13.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Texturepath? |
| 20:13.03 | Thalie | "you could call the ankh a once per hour aggro dump" ... i hope he rolls one, i really do |
| 20:13.39 | dre^ | heh |
| 20:13.47 | dre^ | I've used it that way more than a few times :) |
| 20:13.51 | Dashkal | sylvanaar_work: Actually, I'd go if not for how far away it is... |
| 20:13.58 | sylvanaar_work | heh |
| 20:14.14 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone? :P |
| 20:14.15 | NightHawkAtWork | Feh, ankh isn't just an agro dump, with imp ankh, it's also a 40% mana restore! |
| 20:14.50 | sylvanaar_work | Dashkal its near my family home in MA - seems like itll be a hoot |
| 20:15.14 | Dashkal | heh nice. Let us know how it goes :p |
| 20:17.30 | NightHawkAtWork | Interesting, https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html |
| 20:18.57 | kagaro | haha |
| 20:19.33 | kagaro | guess its time to move to norway |
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| 20:20.14 | NeoTron | US FTW |
| 20:21.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Also interesting.. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html |
| 20:22.41 | xyu | !ap 1465 |
| 20:22.42 | WoWLuaircBot | xyu: Arena points from a rating of 1465 is, 2v2: 255, 3v3: 295, 5v5: 336 |
| 20:25.16 | sylvanaar_work | lol, this site is so funny http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-spray-tan-red-squirrel.jpg |
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| 20:26.42 | sylvanaar_work | oh god - im going to start linking all of them |
| 20:26.52 | Xinhuan | PTR discovery: spellstolen buffs cant be purged |
| 20:27.23 | Groktar-Impulse | what happens? |
| 20:27.38 | Groktar-Impulse | and what if you have other buffs? |
| 20:27.43 | Groktar-Impulse | will it just protect them? |
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| 20:29.47 | sag_ich_nicht | how to get item texture path from itemid? D: |
| 20:30.01 | dre^ | spellstolen buffs can't be purged = op |
| 20:30.10 | dre^ | hopefully classified as a bug |
| 20:30.21 | xyu | I AM STEALINGZ YOUR FREEDOMZ!!!~~ |
| 20:30.48 | dre^ | or earth shield, or pain suppression... |
| 20:31.03 | xyu | painsupression is pretty hard to steal isn't it? |
| 20:31.09 | xyu | always failing and stuffs |
| 20:31.17 | dre^ | it's resistant, yeah |
| 20:31.26 | dre^ | but not 100% resistant |
| 20:31.30 | xyu | WTB Lowered mana cost of spellsteal! |
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| 20:32.04 | dre^ | you want it cheaper *and* excempt from dispell? no thanks ;) |
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| 20:34.12 | Thalie | pain supression is 60% isn't it |
| 20:34.17 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r62906 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Highlight missing deps in red when displaying the checkbox-tooltip depslist for any mod. |
| 20:38.48 | dre^ | well at least I'll have 30% resistance to spell steal in 2.4 |
| 20:39.08 | dre^ | still, I'll be pretty pissed the first time a mage steals it and becomes 100% unpurgable |
| 20:39.45 | dre^ | maybe bliz is actually trying to make resto shaman a liability in arena |
| 20:44.07 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: yes |
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| 20:49.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: thanks, i already tried out and got it working :) |
| 20:50.03 | ckknight | the API's likely to change with 2.4 |
| 20:50.05 | ckknight | so you know |
| 20:50.45 | ckknight | and also: why not use LibSink or something? |
| 20:51.07 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r62907 10/branches/mHud/ (19 files in 14 dirs): |
| 20:51.07 | CIA-9 | mHud: |
| 20:51.07 | CIA-9 | Added: Abyss text |
| 20:51.07 | CIA-9 | Change: GUI: More tree, less tab |
| 20:51.07 | CIA-9 | Change: cArch Default skin (minor) |
| 20:51.08 | CIA-9 | Added: GetMaxValue to handlers |
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| 20:52.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: because i want the output routed to parrot anyway and am too lazy to mess with dependancy trees, so i just ReqDep'd Parrot and am done :P here btw.: http://pastey.net/82932 |
| 20:53.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:53.57 | sag_ich_nicht | optimization suggestions anyone? :X |
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| 20:55.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:50] <@ckknight> the API's likely to change with 2.4 <--doesn't matter, Parrot will have DogTag support then and I won't need this anymore :P |
| 20:55.58 | ckknight | yea, pretty much |
| 20:56.06 | ckknight | for one, DogTag will allow showing of icons |
| 20:56.23 | ckknight | I'm still wondering about getting DogTag-3.0 out the door before then |
| 20:56.31 | ckknight | see http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11576.0 |
| 20:56.59 | sag_ich_nicht | it will also just let me fire it on Mana=MaxMana-2700 |
| 20:57.18 | ckknight | yea, I want to add a DogTag trigger thing as well |
| 20:58.31 | Chompers | tags in dogtag are very powerful ckk, but sometimes they're a little overwhelming |
| 20:58.41 | Chompers | espically for average people like me |
| 20:58.43 | ckknight | right, which is why I want advice to make it better |
| 20:58.58 | ckknight | so average people can use it and not get scared |
| 20:59.05 | Chompers | a sort of dogtag spellcheck |
| 20:59.13 | ckknight | ? |
| 20:59.15 | Chompers | iit;ll suggest ideals when you type out a tag |
| 20:59.18 | sb | ckknight: are you going to fix parrot for 2.4? :o |
| 20:59.19 | Chompers | *it'll |
| 20:59.23 | ckknight | yes, sb |
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| 21:00.48 | Chompers | if i typed '[class' it would try to finish off the line with some possible endings i might like |
| 21:01.14 | NeoTron | I know |
| 21:01.25 | NeoTron | Implement a Gem that can help you write your dogtags |
| 21:01.46 | ckknight | Gem? |
| 21:02.09 | Chompers | and a preview of what the tag will look like before i press enter |
| 21:02.13 | Ozguli` | for a red socket |
| 21:02.15 | Ozguli` | oh |
| 21:02.16 | ckknight | Chompers: that already exists |
| 21:02.18 | Ozguli` | :\ |
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| 21:02.36 | ckknight | Chompers: type /dog |
| 21:02.38 | Chompers | oh, i'm not looking hard enough then |
| 21:03.30 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: `gem install DogTag` ? :P |
| 21:03.59 | Dashkal | Ok, feeling like a noob. gem? |
| 21:04.06 | NeoTron | ckknight: Gem.. like Clippy! |
| 21:04.28 | ckknight | NightHawkAtWork: that's what I thought of initially |
| 21:04.37 | NeoTron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clippy |
| 21:04.55 | Chompers | perhaps multi-line tags, long strings are hard to follow |
| 21:05.04 | ckknight | yea... |
| 21:05.12 | ckknight | Chompers: in any event, put your thoughts on the thread |
| 21:05.30 | Chompers | they're not very good, i'll just stop ;) |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r62908 10aX_RaidStatus/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | - New: SharedMedia-2.0 Lib Added, you can now change the bars look. |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Frame will be movable after docked/undocked then unlocked. |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | - Cosmetic: Changed the options menu to be more user friendly. |
| 21:06.12 | CIA-9 | - Locals: Updated deDE localization(by Farook). |
| 21:06.14 | CIA-9 | - Toc: Changed Optional Deps to include Surfaces |
| 21:09.36 | Dashkal | Suddenly so many of those arcane tags make sense |
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| 21:15.28 | CIA-9 | - Fixed bug that made realtime windows not keep correct position when window scale was not set to 1. |
| 21:17.18 | baer_ | I got a nice discussion topic. :) |
| 21:17.25 | baer_ | any t6-instance raiders here? |
| 21:17.37 | baer_ | speaking about mount hyjal & black temple. |
| 21:17.42 | Chaud | pve happened? =( |
| 21:18.08 | nevcairiel | i've cleared t6 content with my guild |
| 21:18.14 | Groktar-Impulse | hehe |
| 21:18.23 | baer_ | ok. |
| 21:18.53 | Chompers | i did 6 trash waves in MH, ask away :P |
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| 21:19.05 | baer_ | so, what do you think, how many healers should you take for the encounters? are there any encounters that need > 8 healing players (talking about full healers). |
| 21:19.20 | Groktar-Impulse | don't *need* |
| 21:19.42 | nevcairiel | we usually take 7, some more for healing intensive fights |
| 21:19.49 | Groktar-Impulse | we had some archifun learning attempts with 9 or 10 |
| 21:19.49 | nevcairiel | like archimonde and illidan we do with 9 |
| 21:20.18 | nevcairiel | and bloodboil we take 9 too |
| 21:20.24 | nevcairiel | just makes it easier |
| 21:20.39 | Groktar-Impulse | ya |
| 21:20.43 | baer_ | more healers make encounters easier? |
| 21:20.45 | Chompers | aer these extra healers alts? |
| 21:20.48 | Chompers | *are |
| 21:20.54 | nevcairiel | nah no alts |
| 21:20.56 | Groktar-Impulse | not for my guild |
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| 21:21.09 | Groktar-Impulse | my guild has a fairly large raiding force |
| 21:21.13 | nevcairiel | baer_: sure, on alot of AoE dmg, its just easier |
| 21:21.14 | baer_ | i see. |
| 21:21.15 | Groktar-Impulse | switch people out freely |
| 21:21.18 | Miyari | we typically use 6-7 healers for everything |
| 21:21.20 | Elsia | balance it out by taking 4 healer to gorefiend and stack DPS ;) |
| 21:21.32 | baer_ | Miyari: how far is your guild's progress? |
| 21:21.38 | Miyari | the only fights that would require more are like, bloodboil and azgalot |
| 21:22.00 | kebinusan | you can range the rain of fire, no real reason to have a plethora of healers for azgalor |
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| 21:22.10 | NeoTron | We often use 7.5 or 8.5 healers (.5 = prot pally) |
| 21:22.23 | NeoTron | we used to run with 8-9 healers but are slowly reducing it a bit |
| 21:22.39 | nevcairiel | some fights just dont require insane DPS, so you can just make it easier on you by bringen one more healer |
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| 21:22.56 | nevcairiel | *bringing |
| 21:23.03 | NeoTron | I hink as you learn/gear up 8-9 healers is often a good range |
| 21:23.11 | baer_ | yes, but if you bring a healer for a dps-class, you reduce your dps, right? |
| 21:23.12 | NeoTron | it's less about enrage and more about survival in a lot of the fights |
| 21:23.18 | Fisker- | we use our prot pallies for tanking LOLOL |
| 21:23.21 | nevcairiel | like archimonde, its so easy to beat the enrage timer, why risk one or two dead people |
| 21:23.32 | NeoTron | Fisker-: prot pally tanking bloodboil => fail |
| 21:23.42 | nevcairiel | just bring one decurser more and a healer more .. (or combine that by using a druid as healer :P) |
| 21:23.45 | NeoTron | specificalyl they either seem to generate too much threat or not enough threat |
| 21:23.57 | nevcairiel | yeah we tried that once NeoTron |
| 21:23.59 | nevcairiel | kinda failed |
| 21:24.22 | NeoTron | when we tried the prot pally didn't actually tank at all, he fell behind and couldn't catch ip[ |
| 21:24.40 | nevcairiel | we had our prot pally start |
| 21:24.53 | nevcairiel | it worked so-so for half the fight |
| 21:24.58 | sb | 7-8 healers for bt |
| 21:25.03 | nevcairiel | after that he just ran OOM and that was that |
| 21:25.03 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:25.15 | sb | 7 for naj - ros, 8 for gurtogg - illidan |
| 21:25.35 | nevcairiel | i prefer 9 on council and illidan |
| 21:25.39 | sb | nah |
| 21:25.43 | sb | council is easy to heal :p |
| 21:25.56 | sb | illidan should be possible with 7 |
| 21:26.22 | nevcairiel | you just have one more person to react on the random dmg |
| 21:26.29 | nevcairiel | and we finish council with 5 minutes to enrage |
| 21:26.33 | nevcairiel | so whats the matter :P |
| 21:26.56 | baer_ | my guild ain't at the council. :) |
| 21:26.59 | dre^ | yeah enrage timers are hardly ever a problem |
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| 21:27.12 | dre^ | at least in hyjal / bt, in my guild at least |
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| 21:27.18 | baer_ | currently trying bloodboil with 8.5 healers (.5 = protadin). |
| 21:27.29 | nevcairiel | should be enough |
| 21:27.36 | baer_ | yup. |
| 21:27.53 | baer_ | i'm on rotation, but 4th try was 15%. |
| 21:28.13 | baer_ | and the healers are crying, since it's so hard with <9. :-D |
| 21:28.17 | dre^ | yeah... it may help to do the bloodboil DoT rotation along party lines, for maximum CoH efficiency, unless yo'ure using all resto shaman for group heals |
| 21:28.19 | baer_ | ...they always cry. ;) |
| 21:28.39 | Groktar-Impulse | ya, we go by groups for bloodboils |
| 21:28.46 | Groktar-Impulse | you cheesing it with paladins? |
| 21:29.10 | baer_ | sorry? |
| 21:29.11 | NeoTron | sb: separate farm from learning. even if you CAN do it with less, it's often easier to bring another healer in |
| 21:29.16 | nevcairiel | we never did that with paladins |
| 21:29.20 | nevcairiel | just 3 groups that rotate |
| 21:29.32 | sb | NeoTron: hmm we killed illidan 2.5 weeks ago? :P |
| 21:29.37 | dre^ | yeah, circle of healing is the only spell that really cares about what group you're in |
| 21:29.43 | dre^ | (healing spell) |
| 21:29.44 | sb | so its still 'learning' ;p |
| 21:29.52 | NeoTron | "can do it with less, easier with one more" |
| 21:29.58 | Elsia | gief ptr :( |
| 21:30.11 | NeoTron | gief? |
| 21:30.21 | Elsia | EU ptr servers down |
| 21:30.26 | Chaud | all of them are =) |
| 21:30.33 | Chaud | waiting on next round of nerf build |
| 21:30.54 | NeoTron | dream change: "Soul Leach now returns 20% of damage dealt as mana instead of health" |
| 21:31.44 | Elsia | dream change: player's or group's guardians now also have a unitid :P |
| 21:32.03 | Chaud | =\ you don't aim very high |
| 21:32.05 | NeoTron | "guardians"? |
| 21:32.11 | NeoTron | you mean pets? |
| 21:32.11 | Elsia | and shaman's elemental guardians now show as belonging to them |
| 21:32.18 | Elsia | guardians are non-control pets |
| 21:32.23 | NeoTron | ah |
| 21:32.35 | Elsia | totems are guardians |
| 21:33.20 | Elsia | totems are the last relic that may require syncing within UnitIsVisible range :P |
| 21:33.49 | Elsia | well they will if there is no way to use UnitGUID() for them |
| 21:34.35 | baer_ | so, most ppl here do the content with 8 or less healers? |
| 21:35.05 | nevcairiel | 7-9, depending on the fight |
| 21:35.16 | nevcairiel | (or 8.5 if you count that prot pally) |
| 21:35.52 | NeoTron | baer_: we learned bloodboil, council, illidan and archimonde with 9 |
| 21:36.05 | baer_ | NeoTron: ok. |
| 21:36.27 | nevcairiel | wonder if you can do akama with like 2 healers =P |
| 21:36.45 | xyu | akama = the Chess event of BT~ |
| 21:36.50 | [SW]Dodge | yaye solarian first kill :) |
| 21:36.57 | Elsia | grats |
| 21:37.07 | [SW]Dodge | now lookin @ kael |
| 21:37.14 | [SW]Dodge | ty Elsia :) |
| 21:37.19 | Elsia | akama is really disappointing, feels like nefarian without nefarian :P |
| 21:37.23 | xyu | not to take anything away from ya. but she was the easiest boss in TK imo. |
| 21:37.48 | xyu | yeah i was waiting to be giraffed the whole itme :( |
| 21:37.48 | xyu | time* |
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| 21:44.05 | KivinSan | !ap 1893 |
| 21:44.06 | WoWLuaircBot | KivinSan: Arena points from a rating of 1893 is, 2v2: 686, 3v3: 795, 5v5: 903 |
| 21:44.16 | Fisker- | bah |
| 21:44.21 | Fisker- | i guess that's it for stat exploiting |
| 21:45.31 | Chaud | lol |
| 21:45.37 | robotusch | b&? :D |
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| 21:49.33 | Ozguli` | !ar 666 |
| 21:49.34 | WoWLuaircBot | Ozguli`: Arena rating from 666 points is, 2v2: 1875, 3v3: 1798, 5v5: 1739 |
| 21:49.42 | Ozguli` | I'll aim there. |
| 21:50.18 | sacarasc | !ar 265 |
| 21:50.19 | WoWLuaircBot | sacarasc: Arena rating from 265 points is, 2v2: 1505, 3v3: 1307, 5v5: 1143 |
| 21:50.32 | Fisker- | no robotusch |
| 21:50.33 | sacarasc | that's me in the 3v3... i rock in the arena ;p |
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| 21:50.36 | Fisker- | ptr client update |
| 21:50.45 | Chaud | patch up for d/l? |
| 21:50.54 | Firelemming | evening all |
| 21:51.07 | xyu | Does anyone know if cheat death can be spellstolen by a mage? i think it's purgable , so i don't see why not. |
| 21:51.12 | nevcairiel | i didnt get a patch yet Fisker- |
| 21:51.16 | Fisker- | no |
| 21:51.23 | Fisker- | but they shut down the ptr's for a new patch |
| 21:51.28 | dre^ | cheat death is purgable?!? |
| 21:51.36 | dre^ | I thought it was a passive ability |
| 21:52.05 | xyu | nah i'm pretty sure itr's purgable |
| 21:52.20 | Chaud | no way |
| 21:52.28 | dre^ | yeah it's passive |
| 21:52.30 | nevcairiel | its a passive ability that gives you a buff once it procs, not sure if its purgable |
| 21:52.34 | Chaud | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31230 |
| 21:52.37 | dre^ | can't be purgable if there's no way to activate it |
| 21:52.38 | Chaud | SchoolPhysical |
| 21:52.42 | sacarasc | cheat death is that rogues thing which makes them so bloody hard to kill? |
| 21:52.47 | dre^ | yes |
| 21:52.48 | xyu | yes |
| 21:52.50 | Matrix110| | yes |
| 21:52.52 | Groktar-Impulse | isn't focused will purgable? |
| 21:52.53 | Matrix110| | as its currently bugged |
| 21:52.54 | sacarasc | i hate that |
| 21:52.56 | Chaud | do you play this game =\ |
| 21:53.00 | Groktar-Impulse | don't see how it's different than cheat death |
| 21:53.17 | xyu | It's purgable though |
| 21:53.18 | xyu | i know that |
| 21:53.23 | xyu | physical or not |
| 21:53.23 | nevcairiel | Once Cheat Death activates, you get a buff for 3s lowering all incoming damage |
| 21:53.24 | Chaud | no it isnt |
| 21:53.28 | xyu | wanna bet? |
| 21:53.31 | Chaud | no =( |
| 21:53.37 | xyu | the 91% dmg reduction part is |
| 21:53.41 | dre^ | well at 3s it's probably barely worth even trying to purge it, heh |
| 21:53.52 | Matrix110| | xyu its 99% atm :P |
| 21:53.58 | dre^ | by the time you see it and get another GCD it's almost off anyway |
| 21:53.58 | Matrix110| | erm dre^ it would be |
| 21:54.00 | xyu | yeah w/ the bug :( |
| 21:54.07 | nevcairiel | the initial 100% absorb of the killing blow cannot be purged or anthing |
| 21:54.10 | Matrix110| | Cheatdeath is currently the MOST annoying thing there is |
| 21:54.14 | Chaud | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45182 |
| 21:54.19 | Chaud | SchoolPhysical |
| 21:54.25 | Chaud | the buff that reduces damage taken |
| 21:54.27 | Chaud | so =p |
| 21:55.18 | Matrix110| | in Arena bugged cheatdeath is the most annoying thing possible |
| 21:55.34 | dre^ | so the bug must be that it procs more often or lasts longer than 3s |
| 21:55.44 | Matrix110| | getting a rogue on 1% and not being able to kill him before hes healed to 100% is rather annoying |
| 21:55.44 | dre^ | cause I'm quite sure I've seen it up for more than 3s within a short period |
| 21:55.50 | nevcairiel | the bug is that it reduces dmg by 99% rather then 90% |
| 21:55.56 | dre^ | oh, hmm |
| 21:56.27 | Matrix110| | and 3sec means alot in arena pvp :P |
| 21:56.36 | dre^ | I don't see how that's not like an immediate hot fix, btw |
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| 21:56.45 | Matrix110| | in 5vs5 its not even that bad but for 2vs2 its insanely annoying :P |
| 21:56.48 | Chaud | the two actions at the same time |
| 21:56.52 | Chaud | cant be fixed |
| 21:57.00 | Matrix110| | it can be fixed... |
| 21:57.06 | nevcairiel | they will fix it .. just not by a hotfix |
| 21:57.07 | dre^ | 99 --> 90 can't be too hard |
| 21:57.21 | Matrix110| | that they dont do that in a hotfix is just typical blizzard |
| 21:57.31 | Chaud | We have looked into this issue. In order to assure that a worse bug (which caused cheat death to not work at all) did not occur under specific timing circumstances, Cheat Death will sometimes reduce damage by 99% instead of 90%. |
| 21:57.31 | Chaud | Although technically this is a bug, it is not one that we can currently fix. |
| 21:57.40 | nevcairiel | if it would be possible to fix by hotfix, they would |
| 21:57.42 | nevcairiel | it just isnt. |
| 21:57.53 | Matrix110| | i mean every other damn mmorpg wouldve almost instant hotfixed such a a major bug |
| 21:58.04 | nevcairiel | its not that major |
| 21:58.13 | dre^ | yeah, well... I'm not familiar with bliz's codebase, but a lot of what they say sounds dubious at best |
| 21:58.17 | Matrix110| | for pvp it is :P |
| 21:58.33 | nevcairiel | if you hit for 10% or for 1% .. whats the matter |
| 21:58.49 | Chaud | 10% of a 4k execute vs 1% |
| 21:58.56 | Chaud | could kill the rogue |
| 21:58.58 | dre^ | 9% is huge |
| 21:59.20 | Matrix110| | if you see a rogue staying alive on 1% when he couldve been dead without the bug its...annoying |
| 21:59.57 | sacarasc | doing up to 15 damage when critting is annoying, 150 not much better really though ;p |
| 22:00.16 | xyu | nah the worst is, cheatdeath -> vanish -> comeback full |
| 22:00.17 | nevcairiel | If blizzard says its not possible to hotfix right now, and needs a real patch to fix it, thats how it is. if you believe it or not, for my part, i do. |
| 22:00.26 | dre^ | when teh rogue is *almost dead*, yes it really does make a difference ;) |
| 22:00.35 | Matrix110| | nevcairiel its not only that bug its almost every bug :P |
| 22:00.57 | sacarasc | when a rogue is almost dead, it means i'm almost dead too ;( |
| 22:01.02 | nevcairiel | play another game if you dont like it |
| 22:01.03 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 22:01.10 | Matrix110| | but things as the Mojo bug get instant fixed almost :D |
| 22:01.19 | nevcairiel | because its possible |
| 22:01.27 | nevcairiel | a small server side scripting change |
| 22:01.36 | dre^ | letting it out the door knowing htat it'll proc for 99% is purely irresponsible imho |
| 22:01.38 | nevcairiel | no complex combat logic |
| 22:01.41 | Chaud | mojo just changed how the NPC responded |
| 22:01.48 | Chaud | no mo answer to /kiss and done |
| 22:01.57 | nevcairiel | dre^: better then leaving the bug in that it wont work at all |
| 22:02.17 | Matrix110| | Cheatdeath = no stacking of cheatdeath possible and woho works :P |
| 22:02.17 | dre^ | so then they shouldn't have released the previous one with teh bug, heh |
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| 22:02.40 | Chaud | I would assume it comes from the simultaneous actions thing |
| 22:02.41 | nevcairiel | its not like the 99% thing happens all the time |
| 22:02.56 | Matrix110| | only 99% of the time :P |
| 22:03.00 | nevcairiel | its probably a race condition |
| 22:03.01 | dre^ | so it's that cheat death is *stacking*? |
| 22:03.05 | nevcairiel | and those are hard to track down |
| 22:03.29 | kenlyric | RACE |
| 22:03.30 | dre^ | how many other buffs have beenconfigured to not stack? how hard can it be? heh |
| 22:03.47 | Matrix110| | its not really stacking but ingame it is stacking |
| 22:03.57 | dre^ | well... then yes, it is stacking ;) |
| 22:04.02 | Chaud | what else works like cheat death |
| 22:04.07 | Chaud | mages can sheep each other |
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| 22:04.21 | dre^ | take the shaman talent Eye Of the Storm, procs on incomming crits |
| 22:04.23 | Matrix110| | thats a lag issue :P |
| 22:04.25 | kenlyric | I wrote this perl script that was 5000 lines long and now I know all the issues you can have with software that has millions of lines of code. |
| 22:04.27 | nevcairiel | thats a general issue with server-client latency |
| 22:04.28 | dre^ | that doesnt' / can't stack |
| 22:04.30 | Chaud | same with cheat death? |
| 22:04.32 | nevcairiel | and the cheat-death thing probably too |
| 22:04.42 | kenlyric | sorry, need to adapt that for this channel |
| 22:04.58 | kenlyric | I wrote this WoW mod that was 5000 lines long and now I know all the issues you can have with software that has millions of lines of code. |
| 22:05.22 | dre^ | I'm not saying I'm familiar with all their issues, but I'm familar with basic software design |
| 22:05.56 | nevcairiel | somehow i dont think basic software design covers a complex thing like wow without any insight how stuff is designed :D |
| 22:06.00 | kenlyric | remember that every time Windows gets a Buffer Overflow bug. |
| 22:06.01 | dre^ | "thread safety" for example, there's gotta be an analogy for MMOs played across networks of varrying latency |
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| 22:06.28 | nevcairiel | you cant "fix" network latency |
| 22:06.33 | dre^ | yes you can |
| 22:06.36 | kenlyric | giant software... right 300 hands don't know what the right 300 hands are doing. |
| 22:06.39 | nevcairiel | you cant |
| 22:06.42 | dre^ | but htey won't do it cause it would mean loss of money |
| 22:06.43 | kebinusan | hm, server transfer CD down to 30 days? |
| 22:06.54 | Matrix110| | yes kebinusan |
| 22:07.02 | dre^ | the fix is: disconnect users who rise above a certain maximum threshold |
| 22:07.18 | nevcairiel | dre^: those issues can even occur on two low-ping clients |
| 22:07.19 | Chaud | rofl |
| 22:07.33 | Matrix110| | 40ms and 100ms which is both totally fine would cause such issues :P |
| 22:07.52 | Matrix110| | and well |
| 22:08.02 | Matrix110| | WoW Servers arent really that ping friendly :P |
| 22:08.20 | dre^ | yeah, I guess I don't understand why they can't always follow the 'check before you act' kinda idea |
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| 22:08.44 | dre^ | yes, things can change after you check but before you act if you're not careful |
| 22:08.50 | dre^ | but that goes back to thread safety |
| 22:08.57 | dre^ | it is possible |
| 22:09.00 | dre^ | lots of software does it |
| 22:09.13 | nevcairiel | you would need to add more server latency with those extra checks |
| 22:09.17 | nevcairiel | and that would suck even more |
| 22:09.52 | dre^ | and that extra latency might not matter if you didn't already ahve clients with huge ping times. I'm just saying that if tolerances were tightened, there might be a better opporutnity to be accurate |
| 22:10.37 | Dashkal | New event: UPDATE_INVENTORY_DURABILITY nifty |
| 22:10.38 | nevcairiel | its totally unreasonable to increase the overall latency just to eliminate a few rare issues |
| 22:11.21 | dre^ | given the current allowed round trip times, that's true |
| 22:11.50 | nevcairiel | its even more unreasonable to require a certain max-latency of your customers |
| 22:12.00 | dre^ | I fully disagree :) |
| 22:12.02 | nevcairiel | even more so, because WoW works just fine with a high ping |
| 22:12.07 | nevcairiel | once you get used to it |
| 22:12.21 | dre^ | uh huh. try catching somebody with a flag in WSG when they're intentionally lagging themselves |
| 22:12.51 | nevcairiel | pvp in wow is a placeholder anyway, there are games with real pvp components |
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| 22:12.59 | dre^ | that's a copout |
| 22:13.19 | Dashkal | So is WoW's excuse for pvp... |
| 22:13.28 | dre^ | and yes, I enjoy quake3 much more for actual spatial combat fun. but wow could be so much better! |
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| 22:14.18 | dre^ | it's true, though, its' very obvious that wow wasn't designed for pvp |
| 22:14.43 | Elsia | any online pvp suffers from latency disparities... really nothing one can do about that if one wants to allow open access, which most sane games do |
| 22:14.59 | dre^ | yes, to an extent... it's a question of degree |
| 22:15.06 | dre^ | 200ms, ok. 3000ms? get the hell out |
| 22:15.08 | nevcairiel | Anyway, ANY software company will want to design their game for a very broad audience, and requiring a certain latency is something no company would EVER do |
| 22:15.34 | dre^ | right, exactly. it's a financial consideration, not a gameplay consideration, to allow high latencies |
| 22:15.34 | nevcairiel | at least i dont know of any game that requires a good latency |
| 22:15.40 | dre^ | quake3 does |
| 22:15.46 | nevcairiel | how so? |
| 22:15.47 | dre^ | in the sense that you can't effectively play it with high ping |
| 22:15.48 | Antiarc | Any FPS does, to be competitive. |
| 22:15.55 | nevcairiel | Thats another thing |
| 22:15.58 | dre^ | the 'requirement' is in teh game play mechanic itself |
| 22:15.58 | Matrix110| | well WoW requires a latency under 10s so all the precious Inet via Sat users are excluded zomg |
| 22:15.59 | Matrix110| | ! |
| 22:16.16 | Dashkal | I used to play Quake 1 team fortress with (I kid you not) a ping of 5000-10000 |
| 22:16.32 | dre^ | try that on a modern game andyou will not be competitive |
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| 22:16.34 | nevcairiel | Your reaction time in WoW is limited by a high ping too |
| 22:16.38 | Dashkal | I was one hell of a scout |
| 22:16.43 | nevcairiel | not that bad like in any FPS though |
| 22:16.59 | Elsia | it doesn't matter though, local server hubs address this sensibly anough |
| 22:17.09 | Matrix110| | uhm not being able to CS or Shock a 1,5sec spell because of your ping is quite annoying i would say :P |
| 22:17.19 | Elsia | if you have 3000ms latency, you have either a very long physical jump or an insane bottle neck in your route |
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| 22:17.33 | dre^ | usually it's a roomate who decided to upload something |
| 22:17.39 | mathuin | Is it possible to associate a keystroke with a macro *without* using a button? |
| 22:17.40 | Elsia | solution: yell at your local distributer, or distribute servers more |
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| 22:17.55 | Elsia | well then yell at room-mate |
| 22:18.48 | Dashkal | Elsia: I so wish I had that option. That ping from hell was due to a really messed up internet setup in the town I was in. Small town, no cable to it. Internet was a 33.6 dialup to a central station that used a satalite link to the other side of canada and a 33.6 uplink bu (again) dialup |
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| 22:19.12 | Dashkal | Solution: I moved |
| 22:19.19 | Elsia | yep |
| 22:19.55 | Dashkal | 4.1k/s download was lightning fast *shudders with memory* |
| 22:19.58 | Elsia | well I understand... I did play with 2000ms in the early online gaming days and it was competitive PVP actually... well we just lost more than won, but hey it's a game |
| 22:20.42 | Dashkal | I just picked games that allowed me to play despite the handicap. Team Fortress was a wonderful example. Scouts and Engineers didn't need low-latency to play. |
| 22:21.08 | Dashkal | Also: major laughs when I actually managed to clock someone as a sniper. ahh, good times :p |
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| 22:22.23 | Dashkal | Question: How fast is eePanels for scripting? I was thinking of setting up a scripted panel to show my energy as a large bar on the right-hand of the screen |
| 22:24.48 | KivinSan | Dashkal: Not sure what you mean by "fast" |
| 22:25.30 | Dashkal | KivinSan: No noticable drop in FPS and is still able to update whenever my mana/rage/energy ticks |
| 22:25.45 | Nandini | i'm not familiar with eePanels scripting, but if you are proficient enough to write a script that registers for energy gain events, you might just want to write an addon that puts a big statusbar where you want it |
| 22:26.01 | Dashkal | That's the other option, yeah. But I hate UI stuff :p |
| 22:26.04 | KivinSan | Dashkal: All eePanels does is loadstring() your script. It's in no way different from having a .lua file |
| 22:26.17 | Dashkal | sweet, good to know then |
| 22:26.39 | Dashkal | I may well just write a quick bar mod, but having ee around for a quick prototype would make life easier |
| 22:26.49 | Dashkal | and if it works... why go further |
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| 22:35.32 | Fin | when does The Consortium give you that bag of gems? is it the first of every month? |
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| 22:36.41 | kebinusan | yea |
| 22:38.36 | mort | i just need 360 more rep to be exalted...8sugh* |
| 22:41.21 | Bruners | what is up with the pet bug ? |
| 22:41.26 | Bruners | and how do you do it |
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| 22:45.35 | mathuin | Is there a resilience cap? |
| 22:45.47 | mort | a soft cap |
| 22:46.23 | mort | 402 res is the max for reducig crit, crit dmg is reduced further with more res |
| 22:46.40 | mort | 492 |
| 22:47.05 | mathuin | Soft cap meaning even if you have 492, you only get the crit-reduction benefits for 402? |
| 22:47.12 | Fisker- | it's the other way around |
| 22:47.14 | mathuin | I'm at 392 now. |
| 22:47.24 | Fisker- | atleast it was on 2.4 ptrs |
| 22:47.32 | Fisker- | i had ~10-15k resilience |
| 22:47.33 | mathuin | If you have 403, you don't have any more crit-reduction than someone with 402 ? |
| 22:47.41 | Fisker- | reduced their chance to crit by 1500% |
| 22:47.48 | mathuin | ... |
| 22:47.53 | Fisker- | but only reduced crit damage by 25% |
| 22:49.10 | mort | 402 was a typo.... |
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| 22:51.07 | mathuin | Oh! |
| 22:51.44 | mathuin | So 100 more resilience to go for me before I hit the cap. |
| 22:54.08 | KivinSan | humour me this: in a 10 man raid with an elemental and a resto shaman, would you put one of said shamans in the melee group for windfury? |
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| 22:54.52 | Antiarc | Yes. |
| 22:55.04 | Antiarc | Windfury is the single largest boost you can give melee DPS |
| 22:55.19 | KivinSan | alright, and to push the question a little further, would you make the resto or elemental shaman give up wrath of air |
| 22:55.22 | NightHawkAtWork | well, unless your melee group is somehow devoid of rogues/warriors :p |
| 22:55.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Resto |
| 22:55.29 | Daemona | i'd put that on the same stage of unleashed rage Antiarc ;) |
| 22:55.39 | KivinSan | alright. that's what i thought |
| 22:55.44 | NightHawkAtWork | ToW helps the caster group more than WoA will help the resto shaman |
| 22:55.51 | Nandini | back when patch 2.3 was in testing, blizz made a kind of frame inspection UI available to download, anyone remember what it was called? |
| 22:55.54 | Arrowmaster | KivinSan: if the resto shaman has good gear he doesnt really need WoA |
| 22:55.56 | Antiarc | If your melee group consists of 4 feral druids, then Windfury is probably a bad idea. |
| 22:55.56 | KivinSan | on friday's kara, the resto sham refused to be in the meelee group. i'm elemental and ended up droping windfury for them. i lost a lot of good stuff because of it |
| 22:56.06 | KivinSan | resto was tier 4 and t4 equiv |
| 22:56.13 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: but in that case, you still want a shaman there for soa/goa :P |
| 22:56.28 | NightHawkAtWork | KivinSan: tell your resto shaman to suck it the fuck up. |
| 22:56.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:56.39 | Arrowmaster | resto shamans are imba |
| 22:56.46 | NightHawkAtWork | Resto shaman really lose the least for being in a dps group |
| 22:56.48 | KivinSan | brand new raid. i'm not about to walk in on my first night and tell them off, kthx |
| 22:57.04 | Antiarc | We use resto shamans in the melee group when our enhance shammy isn't there. |
| 22:57.06 | Arrowmaster | one of our resto shamans can solo heal all of kara |
| 22:57.12 | Antiarc | Because elemental shamans buff casters |
| 22:57.22 | Chompers | Antiarc: i thought agi was better over WF for rogues |
| 22:57.26 | Arrowmaster | but thats t5/t6 gear |
| 22:57.27 | Antiarc | Chompers: Not a chance in hell |
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| 22:57.32 | Chompers | WF for dps warriors |
| 22:57.34 | Antiarc | WF is >>>>>>>> agi totem |
| 22:57.37 | aestil | Antiarc: apparently my name has something to do with lesbians and really long anal beads. |
| 22:57.43 | Antiarc | aestil: wtf. |
| 22:57.46 | Antiarc | But lol. |
| 22:57.47 | Chompers | sure i read the agi over wf somewhere :/ |
| 22:57.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Chompers: sf scales waaaay better in the high end, and even on the low end, it's at best a break-even proposition |
| 22:57.51 | Antiarc | Poor, poor aestil :) |
| 22:57.53 | NivFreak | WF == win |
| 22:57.56 | aestil | this is what i found out in /gog last night. |
| 22:57.59 | Antiarc | I really should have warned you about that. Hehehe. Sorry! |
| 22:58.00 | aestil | RP is wierd a bit. |
| 22:58.01 | Chompers | oh right, well okay |
| 22:58.02 | NightHawkAtWork | er, wf* |
| 22:58.09 | Antiarc | Don't take it personally, they're just poking fun at you :P |
| 22:58.22 | aestil | like, unless someone has a name like 'pally tank' or 'leet healz' i dont' even notice what people name themselves. |
| 22:58.36 | aestil | its just sad, cause 'aestil' his old name, would have been perfectly acceptable i think. |
| 22:59.34 | Chompers | lots of 'dkhunterdk' named players here |
| 22:59.37 | Antiarc | Hehe, likely :) |
| 22:59.47 | aestil | oh well. |
| 22:59.49 | Chompers | guess they like other people knowing where they're from |
| 23:00.10 | aestil | i spoke with edagh[sp?] last night. he was one of the many picking on my name :) |
| 23:00.22 | aestil | but no runs. I don't think they will kick me out over the name issue. |
| 23:00.33 | Antiarc | Oh, no, you won't get kicked out or shunned because of a name |
| 23:00.35 | Antiarc | Just poked at :P |
| 23:00.37 | aestil | which i'm struggling to grasp as an issue :) |
| 23:00.40 | aestil | yeah, thats fine. |
| 23:00.50 | Antiarc | Hehe, it's an RP server. Names are just sorta something we harp on :P |
| 23:00.53 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: do you still have a link to that character evaluation site you posted posted last week? |
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| 23:01.06 | Antiarc | You have to realize |
| 23:01.09 | Thalie | be.imba |
| 23:01.12 | Thalie | .hu |
| 23:01.13 | aestil | having never roleplayed anything [at least nothing like this] it never occured to me. |
| 23:01.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Thalie: thanks |
| 23:01.22 | Thalie | shure |
| 23:01.23 | Antiarc | You're coming in at a long list of transfers with rather non-RP names like Fuzzybunny and Squishymouse |
| 23:01.24 | Thalie | is kinda cool |
| 23:01.26 | WobWork | PS people have to realise it's a PvE site =P |
| 23:01.29 | WobWork | Not a PvP site =P |
| 23:01.32 | Antiarc | (Those got mocked far more than you, I'm sure :P) |
| 23:01.36 | WobWork | be.imba, that is =P |
| 23:01.46 | Thalie | yeah it makes no bones about it though, it flags you as "potentially logged in PvP gear" |
| 23:01.47 | Thalie | hehe |
| 23:01.50 | Chompers | do you have to say stuff like "i shall give you a heal mighty warrior!" ? |
| 23:01.50 | NivFreak | beimba is going to be great with some more tweaking |
| 23:01.52 | NightHawkAtWork | WobWork: I'm aware. :) I looked at it last week, just lsot the link |
| 23:01.58 | Chompers | because that would feel really weird |
| 23:01.58 | Thalie | US queries are disabled at this moment |
| 23:02.16 | WobWork | I've seen blog posts that go "OMG LOL, I'm in PVP gear and it thinks I'm CRAP" |
| 23:02.21 | Thalie | lol |
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| 23:02.37 | aestil | those transfers probably had an expectation to raid. i just like the PvE nature of the server, and the fun /gog chat. |
| 23:02.51 | Antiarc | Nah, they just xferred to hang out. Neither of them raid. |
| 23:03.11 | Antiarc | But yes, /gog is fun times :D |
| 23:03.12 | aestil | you guys kill council again this week? |
| 23:03.15 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 23:03.18 | aestil | good. |
| 23:03.20 | Antiarc | Were working on Illidan last night |
| 23:03.22 | aestil | you have a good tank. |
| 23:03.27 | aestil | moving illidian correctly? |
| 23:03.27 | Antiarc | Yeah, Ed is fantastic |
| 23:03.32 | Antiarc | P1 is easy nuff |
| 23:03.39 | Antiarc | Our P2 tanks are having problems with the eye beams |
| 23:03.47 | Antiarc | But I think we got that mostly worked out in the last few pulls last night |
| 23:03.50 | Antiarc | So we'll see how we do tonight |
| 23:03.58 | aestil | seems, like kael, to be a 3 week boss. |
| 23:04.00 | aestil | or os. |
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| 23:04.02 | aestil | so |
| 23:04.28 | Chompers | took us 4 nights a week for 2 weeks |
| 23:04.48 | aestil | my old guild would be like 1.5 nights a week for 3/4 weeks is my guess. |
| 23:04.51 | aestil | 3 raid nights. |
| 23:04.53 | aestil | 3.5 hour raids. |
| 23:05.03 | Chompers | 7 till 11 |
| 23:05.06 | Chompers | eaugh :/ |
| 23:05.37 | Benumbed | When you hit "Cancel" on the SetColor function under Ace3, what function is called? |
| 23:05.53 | Benumbed | its changing my color but then i hit cancel and doesnt cancel |
| 23:06.00 | aestil | what are some of the cool things threat 2 can do because of the new combat log? |
| 23:06.17 | Benumbed | tell different between mobs with same name |
| 23:06.22 | Benumbed | probably the biggest thing |
| 23:06.27 | aestil | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.28 | Antiarc | Per-mob tracking, can put raid icons on mobs in the Omen display, far far far more accurate global threat tracking, no more problems with threat clears |
| 23:06.30 | aestil | and other than that? |
| 23:06.40 | aestil | ooh, i like that. |
| 23:06.46 | aestil | the raid icons on mobs in omen display. |
| 23:06.53 | aestil | its automatic of the mob is marked? |
| 23:07.12 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 23:07.17 | aestil | wicked. |
| 23:07.30 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_022508_013308.jpg |
| 23:07.38 | aestil | so, is there a new parser lib? or is completley not needed now? |
| 23:08.05 | Antiarc | Completely not needed. |
| 23:08.27 | WobWork | Antiarc: Damn that funky All Star J |
| 23:08.29 | aestil | and, is there a new top dog wws like in game dmg meter yet? |
| 23:08.39 | Antiarc | Recount is being worked on |
| 23:08.41 | Antiarc | I don't know beyond that |
| 23:08.50 | aestil | old guild still uses sws. |
| 23:08.51 | Chompers | saucy, what happens when multiple tanks hit the same target? |
| 23:09.00 | Arrowmaster | you should dump all those omen2 pics into another dir |
| 23:09.19 | Chompers | will it cycle through all the icons, or is there a priority list on tanks being used? |
| 23:10.16 | break19 | Antiarc: I'm guessing aoe mode shows your threat to all mobs that you are actively engage with, instead of group threat? |
| 23:10.30 | aestil | is anyone in channel a AV buff? i need a AVR that can take HDMI in and upconvert everything to 1080p and output at HDMI. Basically, i want any input in, and everything out at 1080p. is there such a thing? |
| 23:11.00 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/UIDiffs/0.4.7962.diff <-- new PTR patch, interface code diff |
| 23:11.01 | aestil | break19 actaully, i think it should show your threat level to each mob as a %. |
| 23:11.12 | Antiarc | Correct, it shows your % |
| 23:11.15 | aestil | where 100% = you have aggro? |
| 23:11.18 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 23:11.21 | break19 | aestil: is that not what I just said? lol |
| 23:11.26 | Nandini | aestil: is the upconverter in your display not good enough? or does it not include one? |
| 23:11.51 | aestil | Nandini: my tv does not deinterlace 1080i material very well. and its a 1080p fixed display. |
| 23:12.08 | aestil | break19, kinda. i thought your discription was somewhat unclear, which is why i clarified it. |
| 23:12.56 | Elsia | hmm have to retest shaman elementals to see if they fixed it |
| 23:13.19 | Tuller | I don't think I'm ever going to get threat _meters_ |
| 23:13.30 | Tuller | red light greenlight, yes |
| 23:13.40 | Antiarc | The usefulness in a meter is really evident when you have fights with threat reductions |
| 23:13.49 | Fin | when does The Consortium give you that bag of gems? is it the first of every month? |
| 23:13.54 | Antiarc | For example, Void Reaver. He does a 75% threat multiplier on the guy he has aggro on |
| 23:14.02 | Antiarc | So, you need to stay below the tank and at least one offtank |
| 23:14.04 | Fin | oh, kebinusan said yes, right |
| 23:14.06 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62911 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: made onload have a self reference instead of 'frame' |
| 23:14.09 | Chambrln | Fin: yes |
| 23:14.10 | Antiarc | If you are #2 on threat when he reduces the MT's threat, you are now tanking. |
| 23:14.27 | Fin | Chambrln: thanks |
| 23:14.28 | NivFreak | Antiarc: that explains things, I always thought it was a 50% multiplier |
| 23:14.29 | Fin | kebinusan: thanks |
| 23:14.31 | Hjalte | Btw, sigh at people in my guild. "Lovesick (thats me) you've passed 100% of the tanks threat, please stop damage!" |
| 23:14.35 | WobWork | also on fights when you outgear the tank =) |
| 23:14.44 | Daemona | Antiarc or have a really good feral tank and dodge the aggro-reduce move :D |
| 23:14.48 | WobWork | Hjalte: as a ranged? =) |
| 23:14.50 | Antiarc | Hehe, indeed |
| 23:14.57 | Hjalte | I'm a warlock |
| 23:15.05 | WobWork | epoch fail =( |
| 23:15.20 | WobWork | Maybe you should stand next to the boss =) |
| 23:15.27 | WobWork | and hit him with your staff |
| 23:15.36 | Antiarc | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bug.png |
| 23:16.09 | Daemona | <3 linux date :) |
| 23:17.05 | aestil | Tuller: threat meter also good for comparitive analysis of tanks. |
| 23:17.05 | Tuller | Antiarc: perhaps in that situation you can group people |
| 23:17.12 | aestil | due to the new stat of 'tps' we have because of threat meters. |
| 23:17.14 | Tuller | assuming they alternate threat |
| 23:17.34 | Antiarc | Well, you still want to see relative threat standings on at least two, and probably 3 targets |
| 23:17.36 | aestil | gurtogg is anonther example of the threat reduction move. |
| 23:17.36 | Antiarc | Same with Gurtogg |
| 23:17.39 | Antiarc | ^^ |
| 23:17.48 | aestil | a much much harder example. |
| 23:17.55 | Tuller | so its a "I don't raid, so I don't care" thing :P |
| 23:17.56 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r62912 10DaPortrait/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:17.56 | CIA-9 | DaPortrait: |
| 23:17.56 | CIA-9 | - Added Icons module |
| 23:17.56 | CIA-9 | - Added Option for changing background/border Color |
| 23:17.56 | CIA-9 | - Added Invisibility as a Stealth Buff |
| 23:18.00 | NeoTron | Gurtogg with 1 tank alive for the last 25% was fun |
| 23:18.01 | NeoTron | I died. |
| 23:18.01 | aestil | yes. |
| 23:18.09 | Antiarc | Tuller: I think so, yeah |
| 23:18.13 | aestil | Tuller: were you raiding, you'd appreciate the information. |
| 23:18.15 | Antiarc | If you're just 5-manning, then a stoplight meter would work fine |
| 23:18.18 | Daemona | unless you are a hunter :D |
| 23:18.29 | Tuller | 5 mans and 10 :P |
| 23:18.30 | WobWork | Tuller: I use it in 5mans |
| 23:18.30 | WobWork | When I outgear the tank =P |
| 23:18.37 | Daemona | word ! |
| 23:18.47 | WobWork | so it's more efficient to use the threat meters than to sit back and not do anything for fear of stealing aggro |
| 23:18.49 | NeoTron | I use omen when I solo. don't want to pull off the pet :P |
| 23:19.05 | Antiarc | Pet threat calculations are STILL bizarre |
| 23:19.05 | WobWork | That way I can redline the threat =) |
| 23:19.20 | Antiarc | The "accepted" formula for scaling breaks down after a certain point |
| 23:19.26 | Tuller | WobWork: well, I never care about being efficient in that situation :P |
| 23:19.26 | Benumbed | thats not solo =P |
| 23:19.28 | Daemona | ... anyone doing ZA Speed runs? |
| 23:19.42 | Daemona | Speed run as in ... we get the mount anyway... but how fast can we get it? |
| 23:19.49 | NeoTron | my pet (on my 28 hunter) was mting RFK |
| 23:19.50 | Antiarc | Tuller: Many raid encounters are DPS races, where you have a certain time to kill the boss before it enrages |
| 23:20.08 | Antiarc | So you need your DPS going full-tilt, but still be able to not pull aggro. Meters really help ride that line. |
| 23:20.10 | Tuller | Antiarc: true |
| 23:20.16 | Daemona | which reminds me Antiarc... Illidan with 15min enrage was fun :/ |
| 23:20.21 | Daemona | 20 min is so casual :/ |
| 23:20.24 | Antiarc | Oy. I can only imagine. |
| 23:20.24 | Miyari | I haven't seen a DPS race encounter since Naxx :P |
| 23:20.28 | NeoTron | Tuller: I could never imagine a DPS character w/o trying to maximize my threat |
| 23:20.28 | Miyari | Other than Brutallus |
| 23:20.29 | Antiarc | We're just starting to learn Illidan |
| 23:20.38 | Benumbed | same, we are on illidan now |
| 23:20.38 | Daemona | read query ;) |
| 23:20.43 | Thalie | heh, we're working on archimonde |
| 23:20.52 | Benumbed | our tankes are colorblind and cant see the giant blue beam of death |
| 23:20.58 | Daemona | archimonde learning == 5 shamans |
| 23:21.03 | Thalie | yeah, i'm one of them dae |
| 23:21.17 | NeoTron | Benumbed: phase 2 is the only phase that's truly challenging |
| 23:21.18 | Antiarc | Miyari: There are lots of them. Gurtogg and RoS are both races |
| 23:21.21 | Tuller | I usually figure if you need to be at absolute peak, you need to get better gear |
| 23:21.26 | Antiarc | Hydross is a hard enrage race |
| 23:21.35 | Daemona | naaa |
| 23:21.35 | Miyari | For different reason though |
| 23:21.40 | Antiarc | Leotheras is a race, but his enrage timer is pretty lol. |
| 23:21.41 | Miyari | It's not the enrage that's the threat |
| 23:21.41 | NeoTron | Tuller: didn't say absolute peak. I more meant best I can do with my current equipment |
| 23:21.42 | Thalie | Leotheras |
| 23:21.43 | Daemona | hydross is ... 4 transitions down :X |
| 23:21.44 | Miyari | It's a case of survival :P |
| 23:21.51 | Elsia | it's interesting that the combat log actually remains to reflect threat related events cleanly, I'd claim intentionally |
| 23:21.51 | Miyari | I was specifically referring to the impending Enrage as a threat |
| 23:21.52 | Thalie | Leo is a tough enrage when you are learning the fight though |
| 23:21.53 | Antiarc | Daemona: By "hard enrage" I mean he has a timer |
| 23:21.56 | Miyari | a la Pctchwerk |
| 23:21.57 | Daemona | aah k |
| 23:22.02 | Antiarc | As opposed to "Your healers go OOM if the fight is too long" like Gurtogg |
| 23:22.06 | Daemona | Miyari -> brutalus :D |
| 23:22.08 | break19 | tuller: did ya read my bugreport I filed in the bongos3 thread here? |
| 23:22.20 | Antiarc | Thalie: When we were learning it, we started chaining heroisms on the melee group during the demon phase |
| 23:22.21 | Miyari | [17:20] <Miyari> Other than Brutallus |
| 23:22.24 | Miyari | ;) |
| 23:22.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Well, really, most fights are a "dps race" of some kind, unless your healer mana is, for some reason, infinite in that fight :p |
| 23:22.31 | Antiarc | We were from barely beating the enrage timer to beating it with like, 6 minutes left. |
| 23:22.37 | WobWork | Kazzak =) |
| 23:22.38 | Daemona | for melee... Teron unghosted ! |
| 23:22.40 | Miyari | Healer mana is always infinite :D! |
| 23:22.48 | Antiarc | NightHawkAtWork: Well, yeah, but most aren't quite as punishing as Gurtogg, or as explicit as RoS |
| 23:23.04 | Miyari | 3rd phase souls is like Loatheb 'dps race' |
| 23:23.13 | Miyari | Enrage timers, though.. |
| 23:23.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: oh, absolutely |
| 23:23.21 | Miyari | I don't even think I've seen TBC enrages :( |
| 23:23.29 | Tuller | break19: that's more of "pockets isn't really an addon that's released" thing :P |
| 23:23.32 | Thalie | i've seen leo enrage a few times as we were learning it |
| 23:23.32 | Miyari | timer-based ones at least |
| 23:23.35 | NightHawkAtWork | I saw leotheras enrage once, it was kinda amusing |
| 23:23.37 | Antiarc | When we first started 25 man raiding, we were hitting Hydross enrages |
| 23:23.41 | WobWork | Is it pronounced "Low-a-theb". or "Loathe-B"? |
| 23:23.41 | Antiarc | And we had Leotheras enrage once |
| 23:23.45 | Daemona | we managed to see Illidari council enrage ... well better shouldnt slack when rupting heals should i? |
| 23:23.48 | NightHawkAtWork | (it would have been more amusing had it not meant we were wiping) |
| 23:23.49 | Thalie | it's pronounced "lol-a-theb" |
| 23:23.51 | Thalie | :) |
| 23:23.52 | Antiarc | Loatheb is an anagram for "Healbot" |
| 23:23.55 | Miyari | Whoa |
| 23:24.01 | Miyari | Illidari Council enrage? o_O |
| 23:24.05 | Daemona | was about to say that Antiarc ;) |
| 23:24.05 | WobWork | subtle =) |
| 23:24.09 | Daemona | Miyari 20 minutes ;) |
| 23:24.12 | Miyari | XD |
| 23:24.15 | Miyari | That's crazy :) |
| 23:24.23 | Daemona | i failed kinda to rupt 5 heals or so :X |
| 23:24.24 | WobWork | it's like how Buttsex is an anagram for subtext. |
| 23:24.24 | Miyari | We got our Illidan kills down to <10min a few months ago |
| 23:24.26 | Antiarc | Rogues complain about interrupting on Council, but I really enjoy |
| 23:24.27 | Daemona | had a really bad connection |
| 23:24.28 | Antiarc | enjoy it * |
| 23:24.30 | Miyari | Yeah I can imagine how it would happen |
| 23:24.34 | Daemona | Antiarc i love it |
| 23:24.35 | break19 | Tuller: yea well.. it still breaks the alt-click-drag mechanism :) |
| 23:24.43 | Antiarc | Because I use the PVP gloves and thrown weapons and interrupt all her casts except when she's BOPd |
| 23:24.45 | Daemona | i dig out my Naxx frost resi gear, and the badge fire resi gear |
| 23:24.48 | Antiarc | so I'm constantly doing stuff. |
| 23:24.51 | Daemona | plus the pvp gloves |
| 23:24.54 | Daemona | and just chill out |
| 23:24.56 | NivFreak | is there a single fight in TBC that absolutely requires more than 1 rogue? |
| 23:24.57 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 23:25.07 | Daemona | mother sharaz pre-nerv NivFreak |
| 23:25.13 | NivFreak | post-nerf :) |
| 23:25.19 | NightHawkAtWork | god.. I hope not >.> we typically only have one rogue.. |
| 23:25.33 | NivFreak | NightHawkAtWork: I only recruited one for our new guild |
| 23:25.34 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:25.35 | Antiarc | RoS is good to have 2 rogues for |
| 23:25.39 | Daemona | amount of required rogues == amount of dropped legendary swords |
| 23:25.41 | Tuller | break19: to be honest, I don't really have it installed right now :) |
| 23:25.41 | NivFreak | but we have an enh shaman |
| 23:25.45 | Antiarc | But you can make do with 3 mages, or a rogue and a warrior, if you're lucky |
| 23:25.45 | NivFreak | and 2 warriors |
| 23:25.46 | Tuller | break19: pockets, that is |
| 23:25.46 | NightHawkAtWork | NivFreak: we just DONT have rogues. :( |
| 23:26.03 | NivFreak | We rock 2 mages atm |
| 23:26.06 | Antiarc | NightHawkAtWork: How the hell do you not have rogues? They're the one class that is always looking for raid groups! :P |
| 23:26.08 | NivFreak | + rogue |
| 23:26.09 | Thalie | i'm enh shaman in a group with 2 rogues, fury warrior, and feral druid |
| 23:26.12 | NivFreak | + 3 hunters, haha |
| 23:26.22 | NivFreak | Thalie: stacked much? :) |
| 23:26.25 | break19 | Tuller: me either, but while i was on the svn, i saw it ant "hmm, whats this do?" heh |
| 23:26.28 | Antiarc | We currently run a 3 rogue, 33/28 war, enh shaman melee group |
| 23:26.28 | Thalie | thats the plan :) |
| 23:26.33 | NivFreak | Thalie: even |
| 23:26.35 | break19 | s/ant/and wetn/ |
| 23:26.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: i have no fucking idea. :P We only have 3 raiding rogues, though. And only one is BT/hyjal keyed, the other is hyjal keyed, and the third still needs Vashj. |
| 23:26.44 | Antiarc | Wow. |
| 23:27.05 | Thalie | niv: i gotcha :) is a fun group, windfury is rather imba in that group |
| 23:27.13 | Chompers | rogues are great dps |
| 23:27.20 | Chompers | they're always top 5 |
| 23:27.25 | Miyari | We usually bring 2-3 rogues. :o |
| 23:27.29 | NivFreak | our BM hunters are usually right there with the rogues |
| 23:27.30 | Miyari | And they always top DPS |
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| 23:27.35 | Miyari | Like, every fight |
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| 23:27.40 | NivFreak | so I gave a 3rd hunter a spot over a 2nd rogue |
| 23:27.46 | NivFreak | hopefully I didn't hamstring myself |
| 23:27.50 | Thalie | it depends on the fight |
| 23:27.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, our one rogue is a freaking beast on the dps charts. he manages to outdps mages/locks on fights with AoE >.> |
| 23:28.13 | Daemona | np :D |
| 23:28.19 | Antiarc | It depends on the fight, but if it's favorable, I can generally compete with the AOE classes, yes. |
| 23:28.34 | Antiarc | A stacked melee group can bring some stupidly high single target DPS to the table |
| 23:28.36 | Chompers | we had a look at the hyjal waves last night, locks were doing 5k dps |
| 23:28.38 | Chompers | pretty crazy |
| 23:28.43 | NivFreak | I suspect one of our hunter will need to be replaced later on, so a rogue will get his spot at that point |
| 23:28.45 | Thalie | antiarc: yeah, but on a lot of fights there is just so much movement |
| 23:28.50 | Chompers | wiped on wave 6 i think |
| 23:28.51 | Daemona | you know you got a good rogue, if at the end of a hyjal run the rogue is ahead of the warlocks ;) |
| 23:28.52 | Antiarc | Eh, depends on the fight. |
| 23:29.02 | WobWork | It depends on the timezone |
| 23:29.04 | Thalie | antiarc: thinking specifically of a fight like supremus where you have to move a lot, or kael |
| 23:29.07 | WobWork | we -always- had hunters spare |
| 23:29.08 | Antiarc | Daemona: We usually end up with 2 of our 3 rogues, and our 33/28 warrior ahead of the locks :D |
| 23:29.11 | WobWork | and never enough rogues |
| 23:29.20 | Antiarc | Supremus just sucks ass. Kael, the rogues should still top the meters. |
| 23:29.23 | Daemona | bladeflury cooldown is just too high :( |
| 23:29.23 | Thalie | antiarc: of course, supremus has a loltastic enrage timer |
| 23:29.26 | WobWork | but due to being from Australia, -everyone- rolls hunters |
| 23:29.32 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 23:29.38 | NivFreak | for where my new guild is at, I just want geared and skilled people |
| 23:29.41 | Antiarc | What's that say about the hunter class? :P |
| 23:29.44 | WobWork | cause it's really difficult to find groups on US timezones |
| 23:29.48 | Miyari | bahaha |
| 23:29.50 | Miyari | I love Supremus |
| 23:29.50 | NivFreak | so I'm being a tad bit sub-optimal |
| 23:29.51 | Miyari | http://www.nordrassil.org/imgonnarunoutofflares.jpg |
| 23:29.59 | WobWork | Antiarc: It says it's easy to level with a hunter =) |
| 23:30.02 | Miyari | It's such a retarded, terrible fight in which everyone plays as retarded and terrible as possible. |
| 23:30.04 | Antiarc | Miyari: rofl! |
| 23:30.08 | Thalie | supremus is hilarious, rogues and other melee can shoot the whole time and still win |
| 23:30.26 | Miyari | Antiarc: The image title was the hunter's line on Vent ;) |
| 23:30.33 | Daemona | haha stop QQing Antiarc ... -> http://wowwebstats.com/151szcdyn2aoi?s=3971-4264 |
| 23:30.34 | Antiarc | That's -hilarious- |
| 23:30.36 | NivFreak | there's so many melee unfriendly fights |
| 23:30.39 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:30.46 | Miyari | We don't die anymore to it really lol |
| 23:30.48 | AnduinLothar | eh i just fucking melee supremus the whole time. if he targets you he knocks you back first anyway |
| 23:30.48 | Miyari | So it's not as fun |
| 23:30.54 | Antiarc | Daemona: I can generally pull #2 on Supremus, but it's still a sucky fight :P |
| 23:31.04 | Thalie | anduin: i should try that |
| 23:31.06 | Miyari | We usually only lose like 2-3 people it was jsut so much more fun with everyone dying uncontrollably |
| 23:31.06 | Antiarc | Also, re: Archimonde, screw warriors, and screw airburst. |
| 23:31.18 | Antiarc | gief rogues intercept prz. |
| 23:31.24 | NivFreak | hah, is someone using a mod to throw flares on that fight? |
| 23:31.24 | Thalie | omg, give shaman intercept |
| 23:31.32 | NivFreak | or doing it manually |
| 23:31.36 | Thalie | rogues have enough mobility as it is |
| 23:31.38 | Miyari | lol manually |
| 23:31.43 | Miyari | on the corpses of the fallen |
| 23:31.47 | NivFreak | ahh |
| 23:31.51 | Antiarc | Sub rogues have great mobility |
| 23:31.52 | AnduinLothar | ok if rogues get intercept then ret pallies get a slow time effect |
| 23:31.54 | NivFreak | I thought maybe it was a mark to stay away from |
| 23:31.54 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:31.56 | Antiarc | But nobody raids as sub |
| 23:31.57 | Miyari | to point them out for sucking :) |
| 23:32.03 | NivFreak | that's a good idea |
| 23:32.09 | NivFreak | we just put the circle of shame on someone |
| 23:32.09 | Antiarc | I just want a way for chain airbursts to not keep me out of action |
| 23:32.12 | Antiarc | It sucks soooo badly. |
| 23:32.14 | NivFreak | but last night we had several failures |
| 23:32.15 | Thalie | heh, giving rogues intercept along with sprint... haha :) |
| 23:32.16 | WobWork | AnduinLothar: Bullet TIME |
| 23:32.17 | Daemona | Antiarc... again stop to QQ -> 99% on target !!! ... http://wowwebstats.com/djnmlhfxc6dau?s=4839-5123 |
| 23:32.17 | NivFreak | and only one nipple |
| 23:32.18 | Miyari | lol :) |
| 23:32.21 | KivinSan | Unfortunately, Antiarc, too many Rogues try raiding as sub on the horde side of CC |
| 23:32.21 | Miyari | flare of fail :) |
| 23:32.27 | NivFreak | it went to our resto shaman who astral recalled instead of rezzing |
| 23:32.30 | Primer | Is there some sort of +/- config option? I'd like to make a config option that could toggle a font size up or down one step at a time |
| 23:32.35 | NivFreak | in ZA |
| 23:32.36 | Thalie | niv: ahhahahahaha |
| 23:32.37 | Antiarc | Daemona: Heh, how'd you manage to avoid nto getting airbursted? |
| 23:32.41 | Antiarc | Is there a trick to it? |
| 23:32.43 | KivinSan | On my Friday night Kara, I was doing 814 DPS in blues and greens, and the two rogues were just over 500. Shame. |
| 23:32.46 | NivFreak | our lock called him out while casting it |
| 23:32.47 | Antiarc | KivinSan: o.0 |
| 23:32.53 | Antiarc | KivinSan: I hope you mean like Kara and stuff |
| 23:32.54 | NivFreak | and he actually responded with "No I'm not...' |
| 23:32.57 | NivFreak | and then hearthed |
| 23:32.58 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:33.05 | Kivin | Antiarc: Kara. But I'm going to ZA in fourty-five minutes. We'll see. |
| 23:33.05 | Thalie | awesome |
| 23:33.07 | Daemona | sure, be class lead, tell all melee to hug the right back side and hug the left backside yourself... airbust is 10y ;) |
| 23:33.07 | NivFreak | so we had a little break while he ran back |
| 23:33.08 | Antiarc | Because any rogue raiding as deep subtlety in 25 man content probably needs to be replaced. |
| 23:33.12 | Miyari | Is the PTR up? |
| 23:33.20 | Kivin | Antiarc: WIthout question, DOES need to be replaced |
| 23:33.23 | Daemona | only the patch Miyari |
| 23:33.27 | Antiarc | Daemona: Hahah |
| 23:33.37 | Miyari | I don't feel like raiding tonight 0:) |
| 23:33.42 | Kivin | But there's this big Lolstep thing going on, Horde side at least. Over 3/4 of rogues I see are lolstep speced |
| 23:33.43 | Miyari | I wanna do other work lol |
| 23:33.45 | Antiarc | Kivin: A hemo/combat rogue is justifiable in 25 man stuff |
| 23:33.56 | WobWork | I'm hemo |
| 23:33.57 | WobWork | <3 |
| 23:34.00 | Antiarc | But any deeper than Dirty Deeds in Sub and they need to be benched. Because uh. Massive fail. |
| 23:34.03 | WobWork | if only for the debuff |
| 23:34.15 | Antiarc | Also, a sub rogue in Kara is going to suck ass because nothing in there is bleedable |
| 23:34.16 | Kivin | !c us cenarion circle silyne |
| 23:34.19 | WoWLuaircBot | Kivin: Silyne, Level 70 Blood Elf Rogue (17/44/0). 8454 HP; 1518 AP; 324.800 Melee DPS; 21.49% melee crit; 174 melee hit; 25.48% dodge; 23 resilience;[[ TBR: 1428 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqdspa ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lnzu9 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 18:43:48 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:34.20 | WobWork | yeah |
| 23:34.25 | Kivin | oh good, she respecced |
| 23:34.28 | WobWork | h8 nonbleed mobs |
| 23:34.41 | Kivin | more than 41 in combat for the loss, but better than sub |
| 23:34.42 | Antiarc | Her hit is a little low for a combat rogue in kara |
| 23:34.53 | Kivin | yeah, she's a garbage rogue, but at least she's combat |
| 23:35.00 | Daemona | kvin, no |
| 23:35.02 | WobWork | !c us caelestraez tobermory |
| 23:35.03 | WoWLuaircBot | WobWork: tobermory is not the character you are looking for! |
| 23:35.05 | NivFreak | Antiarc: I thought they fixed that with kara |
| 23:35.06 | Daemona | !c eu destromath daemona |
| 23:35.06 | WobWork | damnit |
| 23:35.07 | Kivin | using a blinkstrike and a latros |
| 23:35.09 | WoWLuaircBot | Daemona: Daemona, Level 70 Troll Rogue (19/42/0). 10414 HP; 3928 Armour; 2085 AP; 474.400 Melee DPS; 29.31% melee crit; 342 melee hit; 32.86% dodge;[[ TBR: 2106 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywzsvt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rsj3s ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 18:44:38 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:35.10 | Antiarc | NivFreak: No |
| 23:35.10 | WobWork | I still can't spell that server name |
| 23:35.16 | Miyari | lol WobWork |
| 23:35.18 | Thalie | oh noes |
| 23:35.23 | Antiarc | Eh. Blinkstrike is acceptable if you can't be bothered to arena, I guess? |
| 23:35.24 | NivFreak | Antiarc: I swear I saw it in a patch note somewhere ;) |
| 23:35.26 | WobWork | I just transferred =P |
| 23:35.28 | Antiarc | Latro's is good, too. |
| 23:35.30 | Miyari | hehe |
| 23:35.32 | WobWork | I call it "CAEL" |
| 23:35.35 | Antiarc | But she should arena a bit and buy the S2 weapons |
| 23:35.36 | Miyari | Cael :) |
| 23:35.41 | break19 | !c us Quel'Dorei Dugald |
| 23:35.41 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r62913 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: zhCN update |
| 23:35.44 | WoWLuaircBot | break19: Dugald, Level 70 Dwarf Rogue (43/0/18). 7074 HP; +10 Energy; 1112 AP; 226.800 Melee DPS; 21.98% melee crit; 174 melee hit; 17.27% dodge; 4 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 938 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw55ff ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38jnmu ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 18:45:12 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:35.46 | Antiarc | Because you won't get better before T6 content |
| 23:35.46 | Miyari | I have characters with Cael in the name <3 Caelestra and Caelestis |
| 23:35.58 | break19 | < fail :( |
| 23:36.02 | Antiarc | Well, I guess that the Talon is a better mainhand, but the S2 mainhand is close. |
| 23:36.05 | Thalie | !c us uther Laetitia |
| 23:36.13 | WobWork | !c us caelestrasz tobermory |
| 23:36.19 | Kivin | Any rogue without 5/5 precision gives me serious cause to worry, if they're raiding |
| 23:36.22 | Thalie | heh, we killed the bot |
| 23:36.28 | WoWLuaircBot | Thalie: <armory> <error id="5"> Awaiting Update? Cache missed. </error></armory> |
| 23:36.31 | WoWLuaircBot | WobWork: Tobermory, Level 70 Human Rogue (11/27/23). 8714 HP; 1503 AP; 343.000 Melee DPS; 22.38% melee crit; 213 melee hit; 25.52% dodge; 46 resilience; +25 all resists;[[ TBR: 1281 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2aqejw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wxnnn ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 18:45:59 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:36.35 | Antiarc | Any rogue without 5/5 precision doesn't have Dual Wield and is thus automatic epic fail. |
| 23:36.37 | Daemona | yeah Antiarc ... its sad that the offhand upgrade path for sword rogues is kinda ... latros - s1 - s2 - sharaz |
| 23:36.43 | Antiarc | Daemona: Yes :( |
| 23:37.05 | Antiarc | !c us cenarion circle adrine |
| 23:37.07 | WoWLuaircBot | Antiarc: Adrine, Level 70 Human Rogue (19/42/0). 9154 HP; 3888 Armour; 1865 AP; 423.300 Melee DPS; 24.92% melee crit; 284 melee hit; 30.71% dodge; 12 resilience;[[ TBR: 1931 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytql5j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3686dy ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 18:46:36 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:37.23 | break19 | !c us Tanaris Buris |
| 23:37.24 | Daemona | gladly i wont have a weapon issue till expansion .. beside the drama when i want the legendary bow :X |
| 23:37.26 | Thalie | !c us uther laetitia |
| 23:37.36 | WoWLuaircBot | break19: Buris, Level 70 Dwarf Hunter (0/25/36). 8276 HP; 5248 Mana; 100 mana regen; 22 mp5; 4784 Armour; 1102 AP; 173.600 Melee DPS; 18.48% melee crit; 85 melee hit; 1203 RAP; 209.90 Ranged DPS; 24.52% ranged crit; 85 ranged hit; 12.99% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1181 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fg7cd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kq9lj ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 18:47:05 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:37.39 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62914 10kgPanelsConfig/ (ArtHelper.lua Locales/kgPanels-enUS.lua PanelHelper.lua): kgPanelsConfig: updated art work helper to properly inject/delete artwork library art. |
| 23:37.40 | WobWork | thank god for being a mace rogue |
| 23:37.41 | Killmore | Elsia ? |
| 23:37.47 | Antiarc | Daemona: I figure the legendary bow is perfectly acceptable for rogues to take. It's payback for every Thunderfury a hunter ever took. |
| 23:37.50 | WobWork | also for vortexes being badgable in 2.4 |
| 23:37.50 | Thalie | i hate mace rogues |
| 23:38.01 | Elsia | kill? |
| 23:38.16 | WobWork | After all the effort I put into grinding BS |
| 23:38.24 | WobWork | I'm afraid I will never switch from maces =P |
| 23:38.24 | Miyari | I need to start grinding leatherworking stuff :( |
| 23:38.35 | Miyari | I'm going to pick up leatherworking come 2.4 >_< |
| 23:38.39 | Daemona | Antiarc nope not really... its only a 8 EAP upgrade over the Golden Bow of Quel Danas ... http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34196 |
| 23:38.50 | Thalie | i've been thinking about that too miyari |
| 23:38.53 | Miyari | I'm afraid to do it cause I have some stinky feeling Blizzard will change something before it goes live and make all of my efforts worthless |
| 23:38.58 | Antiarc | Daemona: Well, no. The real value in taking it is pissing off the hunters. |
| 23:39.01 | Miyari | Like severely nerf the only thing I want it for |
| 23:39.03 | WobWork | Daemona: the only... |
| 23:39.05 | Antiarc | :P |
| 23:39.07 | Thalie | antiarc: hahaha |
| 23:39.07 | WobWork | yeah, what Antiarc said =) |
| 23:39.12 | Daemona | welll |
| 23:39.15 | Daemona | the point is |
| 23:39.16 | Antiarc | ROGUE WEAPON |
| 23:39.19 | Daemona | we got a loot council |
| 23:39.20 | Miyari | Thalie: Whatcha gonna make? |
| 23:39.24 | Daemona | so i get the 3rd bow anyway :X |
| 23:39.27 | WobWork | hehe |
| 23:39.27 | Antiarc | Hehe |
| 23:39.28 | Miyari | lewt council! |
| 23:39.29 | Kivin | Didn't a hunter get the very first Thunderfury, Antiarc? |
| 23:39.33 | Kivin | (On CC, I mean) |
| 23:39.35 | Antiarc | On Cenarion Circle, yes |
| 23:39.37 | WobWork | this reminds me when our MT took that bow from Mandokir |
| 23:39.41 | WobWork | over all the hunters =P |
| 23:39.43 | Miyari | We use lewt council for tier loot and legendaries |
| 23:39.46 | WobWork | cause she wanted agi |
| 23:39.48 | Kivin | I wanted to strangle him. I was a 60 rogue at the time |
| 23:39.54 | Thalie | miyari: i'm an enhancement shaman, so was thinking about some of the BoP rogue gear... and drums of course |
| 23:39.55 | Daemona | we got a hunter in the guild... named Waxtreme, got both parts in the bank ... |
| 23:40.00 | Miyari | hehe yeah |
| 23:40.07 | Daemona | he got em for dkp when noone yet knew what the result would be |
| 23:40.10 | Miyari | i could logically make money making armor kits i suppose :o |
| 23:40.14 | Miyari | I'd be dropping herbalism for it |
| 23:40.31 | WobWork | Miyari: yeah, the nethercobra etc sell well |
| 23:40.39 | WobWork | or really, just grind for the mats |
| 23:40.42 | Daemona | basically thunderfury never was a good rogue weapon ... HELLO 1.7 speed mainhand ?! |
| 23:40.45 | WobWork | they sell equally as well |
| 23:40.53 | Thalie | miyari: come 2.0, thinking the Carapace of Sun and Shadow looks outstanding |
| 23:40.57 | Miyari | I have a hunter with skinning |
| 23:41.00 | Daemona | but the proc was just too insane |
| 23:41.01 | Miyari | So it wouldn't be TOO bad |
| 23:41.01 | Antiarc | You know, it's hilarious/sad that we're working on Illidan and I'm still wearing 3 pieces of Kara loot and a Gruul trinket. |
| 23:41.11 | Miyari | Yeah the new LW stuff is hot |
| 23:41.12 | Fin | weird |
| 23:41.15 | Daemona | at least you got a rogue rinket Antiarc ;) |
| 23:41.15 | Miyari | I've got my eyes on http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34371 |
| 23:41.16 | Chompers | dont knock dst |
| 23:41.19 | Antiarc | Daemona: Heh, yes. |
| 23:41.19 | Daemona | errr gruul one |
| 23:41.21 | Thalie | antiarc: i wish i could get one! |
| 23:41.21 | Miyari | Leather Chestguard of the Sun :3 |
| 23:41.25 | WobWork | oh man |
| 23:41.25 | Fin | I've got the debuff you get after Bloodthistle wears off, and my character sheet says I only have -4 spirit, but the debuff tooltip says -5 |
| 23:41.28 | WobWork | I totally would have won dst |
| 23:41.33 | WobWork | If I'd rolled |
| 23:41.35 | Fin | no other buffs or debuffs |
| 23:41.38 | WobWork | =( |
| 23:41.39 | Ellipsis | Fin: talents? |
| 23:41.41 | Antiarc | It's just sad that the best rogue trinket in the game (pre-2.4, at least?) comes off of the first 25-man encounter in BC |
| 23:41.49 | WobWork | But I'd already won 2 Tier set pieces |
| 23:41.55 | Chompers | not like gruul takes long |
| 23:42.02 | WobWork | I so want DST on my rogue |
| 23:42.03 | Chompers | take a few alts along and make it worthwhile |
| 23:42.03 | Fin | Ellipsis: are there talents that affect spirit for locks? |
| 23:42.14 | WobWork | I've got the heroic BF trinket |
| 23:42.14 | Ellipsis | demonic embrace |
| 23:42.20 | WobWork | and the toaster |
| 23:42.21 | Daemona | yeah and you know what Antiarc? if the sliver of the naaru is going to be a 1ppm its just as sick as pre-nerf dst ;) |
| 23:42.25 | Thalie | antiarc: the one out of Magister's Terrace is going to be better than DST for enhancement Shaman |
| 23:42.27 | Fin | aha |
| 23:42.36 | Fin | thanks :) and, how useless :P |
| 23:42.43 | Ellipsis | lol, indeed :P |
| 23:43.01 | NivFreak | Daemona: didn't they nerf it? |
| 23:43.07 | Thalie | at least that's what ej tells us |
| 23:43.08 | NivFreak | or was it just the tank/healing ones |
| 23:43.27 | Daemona | i am talking about the presumably endboss trinket drop, not magisters terrace |
| 23:43.28 | Chompers | tsunami trinket too |
| 23:43.33 | NivFreak | oh |
| 23:43.36 | NivFreak | my bad |
| 23:43.36 | Chompers | why does it have to be so far into ssc |
| 23:43.41 | NeoTron | so there's no sliver of the magic dpser is there? |
| 23:43.44 | NeoTron | at least not a known one |
| 23:43.48 | Daemona | that one that procs a chance to gain x ap on every melee hit for 20 seconds |
| 23:44.03 | Antiarc | Yeah, that one is insane |
| 23:44.17 | NivFreak | well, they already nerfed DST once |
| 23:44.21 | NivFreak | maybe they will again ;) |
| 23:44.23 | Antiarc | Whoa! |
| 23:44.26 | Daemona | NivFreak twice |
| 23:44.29 | NivFreak | twice? |
| 23:44.31 | Antiarc | The PTRs aren't even in the realm list now |
| 23:44.31 | Daemona | sure |
| 23:44.36 | Antiarc | as in, they aren't even "Offline" |
| 23:44.39 | Antiarc | They're just not there. |
| 23:44.40 | Daemona | one: added internal cooldown |
| 23:44.45 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:44.45 | Daemona | NightHawkAtWork: nerf melee haste |
| 23:44.48 | NivFreak | what was #2 |
| 23:44.49 | Daemona | ... |
| 23:44.53 | Antiarc | The DST got nerfed REALLY hard. |
| 23:44.58 | NightHawkAtWork | Daemona: wha? |
| 23:45.01 | Antiarc | But it needed it because it was insane before. |
| 23:45.06 | Daemona | why is "two:" autoexpanded to NightHawkAtWork .... |
| 23:45.15 | NivFreak | you mean just the general haste nerf? |
| 23:45.20 | Arrowmaster | before the buff almost never faded |
| 23:45.25 | Thalie | i don't think blizz realised how awesome haste was when they created that item hehe |
| 23:45.30 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:45.31 | NightHawkAtWork | Daemona: .. thats a very good question. :o |
| 23:45.37 | Zicon | daemona: "Clever" auto-completer seeing nighthawkaTWOrk? |
| 23:45.49 | NivFreak | well it went from like 30% to 20% haste in 2.2 right? |
| 23:45.58 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork is two? |
| 23:45.58 | Daemona | Zicon rethorical questions are an art ;) |
| 23:46.01 | Ellipsis | that explains some things |
| 23:46.04 | NivFreak | and they added a 20 sec internal CD |
| 23:46.11 | Antiarc | NivFreak: 45 sec ICD, IIRC? |
| 23:46.14 | Daemona | NivFreak it went from 10.x rating to 15.7 |
| 23:46.16 | Daemona | per % |
| 23:46.28 | CIA-9 | 03barfolomeu * r62915 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua FlightHUD.toc Locale-enUS.lua): FlightHUD: Add map coordinates to the HUD. Add map coordinates toggle config. Add config option for adjusting text font sizes. |
| 23:46.34 | NivFreak | well |
| 23:46.36 | Antiarc | They also nerfed melee PPM |
| 23:46.40 | NivFreak | wowhead says 20% haste and 20sec CD |
| 23:46.47 | NivFreak | but I don't have one to test with :) |
| 23:46.47 | Zicon | Screw rhetorical questions when there is an actual logical explanation available... |
| 23:46.51 | Antiarc | So that haste would not cause an increase in the effective proc rate |
| 23:46.58 | Antiarc | Which hit rogues harder than anyone else |
| 23:47.04 | Antiarc | Since we use SnD on top of other haste |
| 23:47.09 | CIA-9 | 03barfolomeu * r62916 10FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua FlightHUD.toc Locale-enUS.lua): FlightHUD: Add map coordinates to the HUD. Add map coordinates toggle config. Add config option for adjusting text font sizes. Merge from branches -r 62915. |
| 23:47.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah before that change it was nuts |
| 23:47.24 | WobWork | =( |
| 23:47.29 | WobWork | <3 haste |
| 23:48.04 | NivFreak | it seems like blizzard could simulate how stat changes would affect different classes |
| 23:48.27 | Thalie | antiarc: it hit enhance pretty hard too, flurry and all |
| 23:48.28 | NivFreak | but haste pre-2.4 would seem to counter that |
| 23:48.28 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:48.46 | Primer | All I know is, hunters need to be nerfed |
| 23:48.51 | Antiarc | Thalie: Flurry has a lower uptime than SnD ;) |
| 23:48.54 | Thalie | i think kalgan rolled a hunter |
| 23:49.07 | Primer | a hunter kills me faster than a rogue in bgs since the last big patch |
| 23:49.14 | Thalie | antiarc: i dunno, mine seems like it's up an awful lot ... :) |
| 23:49.16 | Primer | <-- warlock |
| 23:49.20 | Antiarc | Thalie: 100%? :P |
| 23:49.23 | Thalie | warlocks have no room to qq |
| 23:49.29 | Antiarc | Hunters in battlegrounds are pretty nuts |
| 23:49.43 | Benumbed | if its not 100% on my enh shaman, its 99% |
| 23:50.02 | NivFreak | I think we should give hunters a pally bubble |
| 23:50.03 | NivFreak | and plate |
| 23:50.08 | NivFreak | they aren't powerful enough |
| 23:50.13 | NivFreak | and are missing at least a few utility skills |
| 23:50.21 | Thalie | benumbed: how much crit are you running with? |
| 23:50.21 | NivFreak | I mean, they gave them everything else, right? |
| 23:50.22 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:50.37 | Benumbed | terribad |
| 23:51.10 | Miyari | My hunter is awesome in BGs even though she's assbackwards and terrible |
| 23:51.20 | Miyari | It like requires nothing |
| 23:51.21 | Benumbed | !c us Thunderlord Somnolent |
| 23:51.24 | WoWLuaircBot | Benumbed: Somnolent, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (16/45/0). 8519 HP; 7931 Mana; 125 mana regen; 24 mp5; 6208 Armour; 1568 AP; 256.400 Melee DPS; 23.25% melee crit; 194 melee hit; 470 +spell dmg/heal; 9.56% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 666 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22ertt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uozys ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 19:00:53 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:51.53 | Thalie | how can you possibly have flurry up that much, its based on crit |
| 23:52.02 | Thalie | !c us Uther Laetitia |
| 23:52.03 | Benumbed | feral druid is <3 |
| 23:52.03 | WoWLuaircBot | Thalie: Laetitia, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (2/45/14). 9409 HP; 6340 Mana; 140 mana regen; 5076 Armour; 1530 AP; 227.500 Melee DPS; 32.62% melee crit; 169 melee hit; 479 +spell dmg/heal; 18.43% dodge; 5.00% block; 12 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1084 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b4cmk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dggsr ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 18:46:48 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:52.28 | NightHawkAtWork | 16/45/0 ?? *boggle* |
| 23:52.32 | Benumbed | and I think last update has me in my haste gear |
| 23:52.38 | Benumbed | cause normally around 30-31 |
| 23:52.47 | Thalie | 16/45/0 explains why you have that much hit rating :) |
| 23:52.53 | Benumbed | exactly |
| 23:52.56 | chiper | I'm really starting to wish I had an aggro reset on my shammy |
| 23:52.57 | Benumbed | dont need the hit from resto |
| 23:53.04 | NivFreak | chiper: it's called an anhk |
| 23:53.05 | Thalie | chiper: you do, it's called ankh |
| 23:53.06 | Benumbed | and can get more dmg on shocks and 1 sec off the |
| 23:53.08 | Thalie | haha niv |
| 23:53.14 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:53.18 | Benumbed | them* |
| 23:53.21 | NivFreak | same as a fury warrior |
| 23:53.23 | NivFreak | well |
| 23:53.24 | NivFreak | SS |
| 23:53.25 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:53.31 | NightHawkAtWork | i'd like to see a fury war ankh |
| 23:53.35 | chiper | I said aggro reset, not a wipesaver |
| 23:53.37 | NivFreak | soul stone |
| 23:53.38 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:53.46 | Benumbed | i run with DST and the Exalted BT trinket |
| 23:53.49 | NightHawkAtWork | NivFreak: only if they have a friendly neighborhood lock ;) |
| 23:54.02 | Benumbed | have tsnami but its not up near as much as the BT one |
| 23:54.11 | Thalie | yeah im working on the BT one |
| 23:54.15 | chiper | I'm used to playing mage and hunter. ice block/invis/FD have saved my ass so many times |
| 23:54.23 | Benumbed | the BT one is up like 60% of the time |
| 23:54.29 | Thalie | cool :) |
| 23:54.31 | Benumbed | tsnami is like 20% |
| 23:54.35 | chiper | it's a damn good thing I picked that pocketwatch trinket |
| 23:54.41 | Benumbed | so 80ish power difference is neglected |
| 23:55.02 | Benumbed | running dual syphons for now |
| 23:55.14 | Miyari | I wish I had an enhancement shaman |
| 23:55.21 | Miyari | Like, as my token DPS class lol |
| 23:55.29 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@c-98-207-97-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:55.31 | chiper | you dont have a hunter? |
| 23:55.31 | Miyari | I have a bad hunter instead :( |
| 23:55.34 | Miyari | She's terrible |
| 23:55.39 | Miyari | She's still wearing T2 |
| 23:55.44 | Miyari | !c us illidan miyaki |
| 23:55.46 | WoWLuaircBot | Miyari: Miyaki, Level 70 Tauren Hunter (43/15/3). 8487 HP; 5548 Mana; 117 mana regen; 18 mp5; 4078 Armour; 1283 AP; 241.800 Melee DPS; 13.92% melee crit; 73 melee hit; 1224 RAP; 271.60 Ranged DPS; 19.60% ranged crit; 73 ranged hit; 9.23% dodge; 33 resilience; 60 shadow resist;[[ TBR: 806 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xpgzk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3a7yq2 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 19:05:15 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:55.49 | Benumbed | imo 16 into ele > 3% more hit |
| 23:55.53 | chiper | lol, my hunter isnt even kara equipped |
| 23:55.55 | Miyari | halp :( |
| 23:55.57 | Benumbed | if you can get hit rating from other things |
| 23:56.04 | Miyari | She was decked out pre-TBC like BWL-style lol |
| 23:56.06 | Miyari | Now she's just awful |
| 23:56.08 | NivFreak | our new enh shammy hasn't really been on my ass for threat yet |
| 23:56.21 | Benumbed | im threat capped on very few |
| 23:56.23 | NivFreak | I haven't really raided with one since before the threat reduction increase |
| 23:56.27 | Benumbed | like bloodboil |
| 23:56.56 | NivFreak | I expected him to be on my ass for Zul'jin |
| 23:57.03 | Jaxon | !c us Deathwing Jaxon |
| 23:57.06 | WoWLuaircBot | Jaxon: Jaxon, Level 70 Troll Hunter (41/20/0). 9179 HP; 6403 Mana; 89 mana regen; 7 mp5; 6490 Armour; 1987 AP; 286.500 Melee DPS; 21.00% melee crit; 121 melee hit; 1926 RAP; 401.20 Ranged DPS; 28.27% ranged crit; 121 ranged hit; 19.51% dodge; 59 resilience;[[ TBR: 2023 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28fzvb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3arn4z ][ Updated: Mon Feb 25 19:06:35 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:57.10 | NivFreak | and aside from him running in once and smacking him after a phase change |
| 23:57.13 | NivFreak | he never really was |
| 23:57.15 | Miyari | Tsk, showing up my bad hunter. |
| 23:57.18 | Miyari | How dare you. :( |
| 23:57.24 | Benumbed | but I generally have feral druid in my group |
| 23:57.26 | NightHawkAtWork | Benumbed: personally, I prefer the points in resto, for the other toys you get there as wel, but *shrug* |
| 23:57.29 | Thalie | benumbed: i've never tried ele as a subspec but i know i don't have the hit to do it right now |
| 23:57.45 | Thalie | the totem range is nice to have as well |
| 23:57.51 | Benumbed | yeah but bleh |
| 23:57.57 | NightHawkAtWork | totem range, imp ankh, and pushback reduction are all nice |
| 23:57.59 | Benumbed | i totem twist so they are usually right there anyways |
| 23:58.02 | NivFreak | aren't they supposed to be reworking the totem system? |
| 23:58.21 | Thalie | well it only took them 2 years to give us a totem management ui |
| 23:58.27 | Benumbed | i made mod to attach to bartender, and show me if a totem that gives buff is out of range |
| 23:58.36 | Benumbed | so i dont have to stare at buffs |
| 23:58.39 | chiper | Jaxon seems to be a popular name |
| 23:58.48 | Benumbed | turns red like out of range |
| 23:58.51 | chiper | I know there's at least two NPCs with that name |
| 23:58.58 | NivFreak | Benumbed: that's pretty cool |
| 23:58.59 | Ellipsis | interesting... |
| 23:59.02 | Miyari | Action Jaxon :) |
| 23:59.02 | Ellipsis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.05 | NivFreak | Benumbed: what's it called? |
| 23:59.12 | Benumbed | didnt upload |
| 23:59.14 | NivFreak | aww |
| 23:59.20 | NivFreak | I'd like that so I can yell at our shaman |
| 23:59.20 | Benumbed | need to tweak it |
| 23:59.21 | Jaxon | chiper: just the one I know of, was added in when they added the stealth detecting scouts in the major cities. |
| 23:59.23 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:59.32 | Elsia | lua> t={2}; print(#t) |
| 23:59.32 | lua_bot | Elsia: 1 |
| 23:59.45 | Benumbed | it creates another cooldown frame as well, so shows totem timer |
| 23:59.47 | Elsia | lua> t={"2"=nil}; print(#t) |
| 23:59.48 | lua_bot | Elsia: luabot:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 23:59.59 | Benumbed | but thats pointless in 2.4 |
