| 00:00.13 | Elsia | lua> t={[2]=nil;}; print(#t) |
| 00:00.14 | lua_bot | Elsia: 0 |
| 00:00.26 | Elsia | lua> t={[2]=1;}; print(#t) |
| 00:00.26 | lua_bot | Elsia: 0 |
| 00:00.29 | Benumbed | and my dps went up about 5% more being 16 ele |
| 00:00.40 | Benumbed | my earth shocks cost 47 mana |
| 00:00.46 | Benumbed | also |
| 00:00.53 | WobWork | Elsia: # only counts indexed values |
| 00:00.56 | WobWork | not hashed |
| 00:01.08 | WobWork | (as is probably self evident there...) |
| 00:01.45 | Elsia | how do I get hashed size? |
| 00:01.49 | *** join/#wowace Berti (n=berti@vs156121.vserver.de) |
| 00:01.50 | Benumbed | sadly evcen totem twisting, i dont need sham rage |
| 00:02.04 | Benumbed | i use sham rage if i die, and self rez to get mana rq...other than that a waste |
| 00:02.06 | thul | I want to raid as enhancement |
| 00:02.07 | thul | :-P |
| 00:02.18 | Thalie | thul: good luck finding a guild :) |
| 00:02.28 | Benumbed | yeah most guilds want 1 and 1 only |
| 00:02.35 | Benumbed | and really pointless to have more than 1 |
| 00:02.38 | thul | hehe, well, yeah |
| 00:02.39 | *** join/#wowace Stan_ (n=Stanzill@p54995058.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:02.42 | Benumbed | unless you are running 15 rogues |
| 00:02.46 | Thalie | some take one for the tank group too, but rarely |
| 00:02.52 | Benumbed | i get swapped |
| 00:02.52 | Chompers | we take 2, the hunters like thier own group |
| 00:02.53 | WobWork | Elsia: you'll have to loop through and count |
| 00:02.56 | thul | not like you are finding many guilds that do more than 1-2 max 3 rogues for 10 mans too |
| 00:02.58 | Antiarc | Elsia: Hashes don't have an easily accesable size. You have to iterate to get the # of entries. |
| 00:03.00 | thul | soo... :-P |
| 00:03.03 | Benumbed | like voidreaver and bloodboil, i get put into melee group |
| 00:03.05 | Elsia | lua> t={[2]=1;}; print(getn(t)) |
| 00:03.06 | lua_bot | Elsia: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'getn' (a nil value) |
| 00:03.07 | Benumbed | err tank group |
| 00:03.15 | Arrowmaster | our MT stole the enchance shaman when one of the pallys went afk and we pulled without salv |
| 00:03.17 | WobWork | getn is depreciated |
| 00:03.18 | Thalie | my rogues are greedy |
| 00:03.22 | Arrowmaster | he was doing like 2k tps |
| 00:03.36 | NivFreak | huh? |
| 00:03.39 | NivFreak | 2K tps sustained? |
| 00:03.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-9 | 03kivin * r62917 10KivinSpamGuard/ (main.lua rules/english.lua): |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-9 | KivinSpamGuard: |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-9 | - enUS filters update. Thanks Lukian. |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-9 | - no longer check for "dot com" at the end of many known reseller URLs. |
| 00:03.52 | NivFreak | erm |
| 00:03.53 | Benumbed | yeah before our tank got t6, i was pulling aggro on alot of things with autoattacking |
| 00:04.02 | Benumbed | before we got another 15% reduction in threat as well also |
| 00:04.07 | NivFreak | Benumbed: wow.. |
| 00:04.16 | Antiarc | There once was a man named Bertold |
| 00:04.17 | NivFreak | I've never had anything pulled off my by autoattack |
| 00:04.19 | Antiarc | Who drank beer when the weather grew cold |
| 00:04.22 | Antiarc | As he reached for his cup... |
| 00:04.22 | NivFreak | and I still have no t6 :P |
| 00:04.24 | Antiarc | "NEEEEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP!!!" |
| 00:04.27 | Elsia | so if I have a table full of [key]=nil, I have to check all keys to find it's all containing nil? |
| 00:04.27 | Antiarc | Oh, snap! You just got limerickrolled! |
| 00:04.32 | WobWork | Antiarc: rofl |
| 00:04.33 | Thalie | lol |
| 00:04.40 | Benumbed | well i have crazy gear |
| 00:04.46 | WobWork | utterly utterly painful |
| 00:04.48 | Benumbed | like every trinket possible, dual bands of devastation |
| 00:04.51 | Benumbed | dual syphons |
| 00:04.55 | Kivin | Elsia: any key set to value nil shouldn't get hit on ipair or pair iterations |
| 00:04.57 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I've never seen anyone do 2K tps, even with an enh shaman :P |
| 00:05.15 | Benumbed | rogues was doing 4k with legendarys |
| 00:05.15 | Arrowmaster | he was doing over 2k sustained tps on gorefiend |
| 00:05.20 | Elsia | hmm i see |
| 00:05.26 | Cryect | entries set to nil are like they aren't there |
| 00:05.26 | Thalie | still waiting for my syphons :) |
| 00:05.35 | Cryect | because well they aren't |
| 00:05.41 | Kivin | confirms |
| 00:05.43 | Kivin | confirmed* |
| 00:06.05 | Kivin | lua> t = {1,2,3,4};t[3]=nil; for k,v in ipairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 00:06.05 | lua_bot | Kivin: 1, 1, 2, 2 |
| 00:06.13 | WobWork | Antiarc: *ups the rating on limerickdb for that one* |
| 00:06.18 | NeoTron | setting a value to nil will in fact remove it |
| 00:06.22 | Antiarc | :) |
| 00:06.26 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I'd love to see the WWS :) |
| 00:06.33 | Benumbed | those new fist weapons in 2.4 are so hawt |
| 00:06.39 | Cryect | ipairs you need ot keep in mind starts at key 1 and goes up till the first nil |
| 00:06.41 | Benumbed | way better than syphons |
| 00:06.43 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: i dont remember which one it was anymore |
| 00:06.45 | Kivin | NeoTron: Indeed. Though some bloke in wowi lounge argued with everyone for near on an hour the other day about whether it really exists or not after it's niled :P |
| 00:06.47 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: you had a tank able to do 2k tps? |
| 00:06.52 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: ill have to check later |
| 00:06.59 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: yeah |
| 00:07.04 | NeoTron | what class? |
| 00:07.06 | Thalie | benumbed: they are too fast... stick with syphons |
| 00:07.07 | Arrowmaster | warrior |
| 00:07.09 | WobWork | http://limerickdb.com/?259 is good =) |
| 00:07.15 | Arrowmaster | he stole the enchance shaman from the melee group |
| 00:07.16 | NivFreak | I've never seen seen a video of a tank doing more than 1500TPS |
| 00:07.19 | Benumbed | 2.6 is normalized no? |
| 00:07.19 | NeoTron | that's like twice what our warriors can muster on a good day |
| 00:07.20 | NivFreak | in fact, not even 1500TPS |
| 00:07.20 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:07.23 | Benumbed | so 2.8 does nothing |
| 00:07.31 | Benumbed | more top, and faster |
| 00:07.37 | Benumbed | easier to get to 1.5 |
| 00:07.39 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: was on gorefiend |
| 00:07.44 | Thalie | yes but the weaps are 2.5 aren't they |
| 00:07.49 | NeoTron | high dmg, low armor? |
| 00:07.51 | Benumbed | which is what you want, for more wf |
| 00:07.55 | NivFreak | I think my personal best is around 1200TPS sustained |
| 00:07.55 | Benumbed | 2.7 |
| 00:07.58 | Benumbed | errr 2.6 |
| 00:07.59 | NivFreak | and that was pretty stacked for it |
| 00:08.05 | Thalie | they changed them then |
| 00:08.06 | NivFreak | including an enh shaman |
| 00:08.12 | NeoTron | I've done over 2000 tps... but I'm a warlock :P |
| 00:08.24 | Chompers | 800dps once :D |
| 00:08.43 | Benumbed | differerence between dual fists and syphons is like 70 more power, .2 faster |
| 00:08.52 | Benumbed | and trade the proc for armor pen |
| 00:08.55 | Benumbed | i believe, dont quote me |
| 00:08.57 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62918 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Significant cleanup in the Proximity and RaidIcon modules + some wtfcleanup in TargetMonitor. |
| 00:08.59 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-181-245.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 00:09.06 | NeoTron | power infusion now also decreases mana cost by 20% for the duration |
| 00:09.13 | Thalie | benumbed: syphons are 365 top end |
| 00:09.27 | Thalie | 2.5's are 335 |
| 00:09.38 | chiper | jaxon: there's an auctioneer Jaxon in stormwind, and another one in ironforge's war room (I think, he's somewhere in IF) |
| 00:10.09 | chiper | pop goes the server |
| 00:10.09 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r62919 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua): |
| 00:10.09 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:10.09 | CIA-9 | - Minor bg fix w/ enchanting and moving the scan button |
| 00:10.09 | Thalie | hehe |
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| 00:10.19 | Benumbed | you are thinking of the wrong fist |
| 00:10.27 | Benumbed | the ones i am talking about have sockets |
| 00:10.30 | Benumbed | and are 2.6 |
| 00:10.33 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 00:10.38 | Benumbed | think only offhand has been found so far |
| 00:10.41 | Thalie | oh, i was thinking of the badge ones |
| 00:10.48 | Antiarc | You know |
| 00:10.50 | Antiarc | If I was Blizzard |
| 00:10.53 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34346 |
| 00:10.56 | Megalon | mounting vengeance |
| 00:10.58 | Antiarc | I would make items with completely wacky stats for the PTR |
| 00:11.07 | Antiarc | And then completely change the drop tables when the patch goes live |
| 00:11.10 | Antiarc | Just to screw with people |
| 00:11.18 | Benumbed | yeah the offhand is off trash |
| 00:11.20 | Thalie | that's far too clever for them, antiarc. |
| 00:11.23 | Benumbed | no clue on main hand yet |
| 00:11.42 | Thalie | benumbed: gotcha, yeah i see now |
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| 00:12.14 | Benumbed | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/mountingvengeance.jpg |
| 00:12.17 | Benumbed | thats the one i am talking about |
| 00:12.26 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: better yet, one rogue designer should throw in a couple of very rare drops with ridiculous stats on PTR, so everyone goes nuts. then remove them from the tables in release, and see how long it takes people to realize that they don't just have bad luck, the items really can't drop. |
| 00:12.42 | Antiarc | Ellipsis: Hahah, that would be awesome. |
| 00:12.45 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62920 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: No reason to use rosterlib when looking up the unit class. |
| 00:13.15 | Elsia | lua> t{[1]=nil}; v,k=ipairs(t); print((k or "nil".." "..(v or "nil")) |
| 00:13.37 | Elsia | lua> t{[1]=nil}; v,k=ipairs(t); print((k or "nil").." "..(v or "nil")) |
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| 00:13.55 | Antiarc | Elsia: You know you can get lua binaries, yes? :P |
| 00:14.04 | Antiarc | (I don't mind the spam, but it would be faster/easier for you to test stuff that way) |
| 00:14.13 | Kivin | I use the addon WowLua |
| 00:14.14 | Elsia | sure |
| 00:14.23 | Kivin | it's more convenient since i can use wow functions |
| 00:14.25 | Elsia | or someone can just tell me what ipairs returns in this case ;) |
| 00:14.34 | Antiarc | Kivin: Get Cogwheel's wow-compatible Lua binary |
| 00:14.46 | Kivin | Antiarc: meh |
| 00:15.04 | WobWork | ipairs will not return anything =P |
| 00:15.06 | Miyari | What is a functional addon to replace the default Blizzard frames for like character pane and whatnot? Skinner? |
| 00:15.12 | Miyari | I need to revise some aspects of my UI. :( |
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| 00:15.14 | WobWork | since any entry with nil as the value is not an entry at all |
| 00:15.20 | Antiarc | Skinner is the generally-accepted one I think |
| 00:15.53 | Miyari | Hmm |
| 00:15.59 | Elsia | I'm looking for an elegant way to check if a table basically contains all nil values, but non-nil keys |
| 00:16.39 | WobWork | Elsia: a table cannot |
| 00:16.43 | Antiarc | local t = {1,2,3,nil,5,6} <-- iterating that returns "1,2,3", since lists iterators can terminate when the value is nil, FYI |
| 00:16.52 | WobWork | any key that has a nil value is no longer in the table |
| 00:16.58 | Antiarc | What WobWork said. |
| 00:17.06 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-181-245.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 00:17.06 | Elsia | ah, I see. so basically I can check for t==nil in that case |
| 00:17.11 | Antiarc | No |
| 00:17.13 | NeoTron | Holy wow. Someone made a version of Final Fantasy VII for NES... |
| 00:17.15 | Antiarc | It can still be empty. |
| 00:17.16 | WobWork | no the table still exists |
| 00:17.19 | Elsia | er {} |
| 00:17.23 | WobWork | no again =) |
| 00:17.29 | WobWork | cause that's an instance of a different table =) |
| 00:17.30 | Elsia | alright clue me |
| 00:17.35 | Antiarc | local ct = 0; for k,v in pairs(t) do ct = ct + 1 end |
| 00:17.40 | vhaarr | Antiarc: UnitGUID("unitid") and UnitGUID("unitName") both work in 2.4, right? |
| 00:17.43 | Elsia | bah not elegant, but alas |
| 00:17.53 | Antiarc | vhaarr: I don't know about unitName |
| 00:17.58 | Antiarc | UnitGUID isn't in the client yet |
| 00:18.12 | Antiarc | I suspect it will, as long as unitName is in your group |
| 00:18.14 | Elsia | unitname will only work for cases where they are also unitids |
| 00:18.18 | vhaarr | Antiarc: Well, all other Unit* methods accept name alongside ID (for players). |
| 00:18.24 | vhaarr | right, in group |
| 00:18.31 | Antiarc | vhaarr: Right. I suspect it will work, but I'm not going to tell you it will since I don't know :P |
| 00:18.36 | vhaarr | yeah yeah :P |
| 00:19.00 | vhaarr | Antiarc: I have no idea what UnitGUID returns, if I save the return in a variable, can I do a == compare of it later? |
| 00:19.06 | vhaarr | or do I need to do a bit compare |
| 00:19.23 | Antiarc | vhaarr: Yes, you can |
| 00:19.25 | Antiarc | It's just a string |
| 00:19.27 | vhaarr | thank you |
| 00:19.36 | Antiarc | 0xF0130000ABDEF12345 or whatever |
| 00:19.46 | Antiarc | It's effectively 3 ints, not a bitmask |
| 00:19.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah it cant be a number to use bitlib on, its too large |
| 00:20.21 | vhaarr | good, I suspect I'll never actually have to understand that value, as long as it is comparable with == and ~= that's all I'll need to know |
| 00:20.34 | Antiarc | Yeah. You can get the NPC ID out of it if you want |
| 00:20.35 | Daemona | Ellipsis ... that sounds like that throwing weapon that never has been seen on my server that is rumoured to come from pickpocketed lockboxes.... |
| 00:21.15 | NeoTron | Antiarc: what is NPC ID? |
| 00:21.25 | NeoTron | is that an ID uniquely specifing a kind of an npc? |
| 00:21.29 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 00:21.30 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=6020 |
| 00:21.41 | NeoTron | ok that is win++ for my addon |
| 00:21.42 | Antiarc | 6020 is the Slimeshell Makrura's NPC id |
| 00:21.47 | Antiarc | You can pull that out of a GUID |
| 00:22.01 | Antiarc | I use that in Threat-2.0's NPC modules to activate a module when a certain NPC ID is seen |
| 00:22.17 | Antiarc | That lets me not use BabbleBoss anymore, which is win |
| 00:22.25 | NeoTron | very cool. that does mean I can make locale-independant tables for MagicMarker |
| 00:23.01 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62921 10GnomeCharmer/GnomeCharmer.lua: GnomeCharmer: Update the list of icons used when we find a target with an icon. |
| 00:23.39 | NeoTron | speaking of which, whom do I bribe/pummel/beg to expediate SVN account setup? ;-) |
| 00:23.50 | vhaarr | MagicMarker? |
| 00:24.12 | Antiarc | NeoTron: pastemancer or Kaelten |
| 00:24.28 | NeoTron | vhaarr: auto-marking targets like, apparently, an addon called Paintball used to do |
| 00:24.35 | Kaelten | *vanishes* |
| 00:24.38 | NeoTron | via mouseover |
| 00:24.44 | vhaarr | NeoTron: So that you hold down the shift key and mouse over targets? |
| 00:24.49 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r62922 10Recount/deletion.lua: |
| 00:24.49 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 00:24.49 | CIA-9 | - There will no longer be delete popups when data is already deleted. |
| 00:24.49 | vhaarr | for example |
| 00:24.50 | Antiarc | You gain Vanish. |
| 00:24.51 | NeoTron | essentially |
| 00:24.52 | Antiarc | You gain Stealth. |
| 00:24.56 | Antiarc | Stealth fades from you. |
| 00:24.57 | NeoTron | right now it's a keybound toggle |
| 00:24.59 | NeoTron | but yes |
| 00:25.02 | vhaarr | NeoTron: Take a look at GnomeCharmer, the addon I just committed. |
| 00:25.10 | Antiarc | Kaelten is afflicted by Fixate. |
| 00:25.11 | vhaarr | NeoTron: There's a readme at the top of the lua file. |
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| 00:25.24 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I've considered adding what you describe to it. |
| 00:25.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+v AnduinLothar] by ChanServ |
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| 00:25.59 | NeoTron | my addon works but need more configuration stuff |
| 00:26.10 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r62923 10Recount/deletion.lua: |
| 00:26.10 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 00:26.10 | CIA-9 | - There will no longer be delete popups when data is already deleted. |
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| 00:26.17 | keiss | i knew i forgot to do something in raid ... test gnomecharmer ... :| |
| 00:26.38 | WobWork | hehe |
| 00:26.40 | NeoTron | figures you go and make the addon just as I did |
| 00:26.45 | WobWork | I'm so glad someone is redoing it =) |
| 00:26.56 | Elsia | nite |
| 00:26.56 | WobWork | it was a useful concept back when it worked |
| 00:27.00 | Miyari | Is there a lightweight addon for broadcasting or showing missing buffs on raid members? |
| 00:27.06 | Miyari | Or monitoring expiring durations |
| 00:27.13 | *** join/#wowace fooxor (i=starfox@85.127.163.174) |
| 00:27.29 | Antiarc | rofl, what |
| 00:27.32 | Antiarc | WowInsider |
| 00:27.34 | Antiarc | Do you love Omen? Foshizzle, of course you do! And Omen is getting upgraded in a big way for the new patch. How? Well those certifiable geniuses have developed a way to accurately measure and monitor your guild members and their threat towards you! |
| 00:27.34 | Thalie | ~wave |
| 00:27.35 | purl | ACTION waves goodbye. |
| 00:27.36 | *** part/#wowace Thalie (n=blah@63.250.141.74) |
| 00:27.40 | Antiarc | Have you been ninjaing loot, sneaking extra Warp Burgers from the guild bank, running heroics with other guilds, honking up your Kara instance with bad pulls, or always missing elixirs before those 25-man boss fights? |
| 00:27.41 | NeoTron | vhaarr: ah that sounds like an addon that a friend tried |
| 00:27.45 | Antiarc | Omen will now tell you just how angry your guildies are with you, who among them is truly the most hostile towards your presence, and who is secretly gunning to /gkick you. |
| 00:27.45 | Miyari | hahaha |
| 00:27.50 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.55 | Antiarc | No need to Feign Death when a quick mailing of some Primal Mights to your guild's GM when Omen says he's gonna aggro on you just might keep you in your guild a little longer. Omen for Guilds! We can't wait. |
| 00:28.14 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:28.23 | NivFreak | niec |
| 00:28.24 | NivFreak | nice |
| 00:28.26 | vhaarr | NeoTron: http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/images/gnomecharmer1.jpg and http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/images/gnomecharmer2.jpg |
| 00:28.31 | NivFreak | you should ask for a percentage of thier ad revenue |
| 00:28.35 | NivFreak | for using omen in that way |
| 00:29.20 | NivFreak | vhaarr: interesting |
| 00:29.20 | WobWork | vhaarr: dragdrop is nice |
| 00:29.39 | ckknight | Antiarc: link |
| 00:29.41 | ckknight | seems funny |
| 00:29.46 | Antiarc | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/25/bigredkitty-patch-2-4-addons/ |
| 00:29.50 | NivFreak | vhaarr: now just get it to let me mark enemy players and I'm in heaven :) |
| 00:29.58 | vhaarr | NivFreak: what? |
| 00:30.05 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I'd post a screenshot of mine but it's rather non-impressive (wave mouse, mark targets - except the learning mode) |
| 00:30.12 | NivFreak | you can't put marks on enemy players =( |
| 00:30.26 | vhaarr | NivFreak: with gnomecharmer or generally? |
| 00:30.31 | WobWork | generally |
| 00:30.37 | vhaarr | >< |
| 00:30.38 | WobWork | ie you can't mark the opposite faction |
| 00:30.44 | NivFreak | vhaarr: in general |
| 00:30.52 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah I was thinking of adding an auto-tagging on mouseover feature as well |
| 00:31.05 | NivFreak | I just bind f6-f12 to my raid marks |
| 00:31.10 | vhaarr | NeoTron: but it wouldn't have any learning mode or anything |
| 00:31.17 | WobWork | vhaarr: Also, autotagging on elites |
| 00:31.19 | NeoTron | well... I think I shall keep working on my addon because it's a fun project :) |
| 00:31.24 | WobWork | so you only mark elites in a group |
| 00:31.34 | WobWork | Or on a search phrase |
| 00:31.41 | WobWork | That's what paintball did |
| 00:31.47 | NivFreak | that's sort of neat |
| 00:31.50 | vhaarr | NeoTron: although I'm fairly certain that you don't need babble boss even before 2.4 for your project |
| 00:32.01 | vhaarr | NeoTron: UnitClassification does what you need |
| 00:32.05 | NeoTron | I don't use it |
| 00:32.07 | NeoTron | in fact.. |
| 00:32.17 | vhaarr | then why did you say that it would let you get rid of babble boss? |
| 00:32.30 | NivFreak | It'd be pretty nice for stealth packs etc, to just wave your mouse over them and have them marked |
| 00:32.34 | NeoTron | I said I can make a list of target categories without localization |
| 00:32.51 | NeoTron | i.e pre-packaged categories such as "sheep", "banish" and "tank" for trash packs in raids |
| 00:33.10 | NivFreak | then tie it in with mobnotes |
| 00:33.13 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:33.16 | vhaarr | NeoTron: that is something you could combine with my MobNotes |
| 00:33.19 | vhaarr | heh |
| 00:33.19 | NivFreak | yes! |
| 00:33.23 | NivFreak | btw |
| 00:33.26 | NivFreak | mobnotes, best mod ever |
| 00:33.27 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:33.31 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 00:33.33 | NeoTron | I use string.format("%s:%d:%s:%d:%s", unitName, UnitLevel(unit), UnitClassification(unit), UnitSex(unit), UnitCreatureType(unit)) |
| 00:33.40 | WobWork | what's mobnotes do? |
| 00:33.40 | NeoTron | that as a temporary "guid" until 2.4 is out |
| 00:33.42 | NivFreak | It needs more data |
| 00:33.44 | NivFreak | but I love it |
| 00:33.50 | JakeM | Anyone else using Quartz? |
| 00:33.52 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I don't see why you even need to save any ID |
| 00:34.08 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I have name => category for mobs |
| 00:34.13 | vhaarr | NeoTron: and UnitName is as unique as you're going to get anyway, so drop the formatting |
| 00:34.21 | vhaarr | ah |
| 00:34.25 | NeoTron | so next time when you come back it'll keep putting sheep targets on the sheep target |
| 00:34.28 | vhaarr | for different CC abilities, right |
| 00:34.32 | NeoTron | right |
| 00:34.40 | NeoTron | the guid above isn't used for category |
| 00:34.50 | vhaarr | NeoTron: MobNotes could be extended to have that kind of information, like bit flags for each CC ability |
| 00:35.03 | NeoTron | but due to latency I need to implement a delay between auto-marking targets so I use the guid as a unique identifier to "pause" on |
| 00:35.29 | vhaarr | makes sense |
| 00:35.42 | NeoTron | in 2.4 I won'd need to since I have the GUID |
| 00:36.31 | NightHawkAtWork | bahaha... http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8675/1xlstc4.png |
| 00:36.39 | NightHawkAtWork | (the grapefruit Response) |
| 00:37.00 | NeoTron | I'll be testing the addon in a real raid on Tuesday |
| 00:37.11 | Dashkal | NHAW: Nice :p |
| 00:37.15 | vhaarr | gnomecharmer pwns it! |
| 00:37.24 | WobWork | I would have moved Achewood further down |
| 00:37.32 | WobWork | and PA more to the left |
| 00:38.08 | NivFreak | NeoTron: does this mod work yet? :) |
| 00:38.30 | NivFreak | vhaarr: you should totally add those bits to mobnotes, and give a visual display in the tooltip |
| 00:39.05 | vhaarr | NivFreak: indeed |
| 00:39.05 | JakeM | NightHawkAtWork: Psht. XKCD is hilarious. |
| 00:39.26 | NivFreak | vhaarr: it makes me lazy though, I just use it on TK trash so I don't have to think about it ;) |
| 00:39.36 | NivFreak | I might grow dependant on it |
| 00:39.37 | NightHawkAtWork | JakeM: indeed, but note my comment in parens, wrt to today's xkcd :P |
| 00:39.54 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I am already |
| 00:39.54 | JakeM | ha |
| 00:39.55 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:40.10 | NeoTron | NivFreak: it works |
| 00:40.18 | Chompers | i've got my raid leaders using it now |
| 00:40.19 | NeoTron | NivFreak: but it lacks category customization |
| 00:40.29 | Chompers | they think its fantastic |
| 00:40.52 | NivFreak | NeoTron: and that affects it's function how? |
| 00:40.59 | fooxor | "It turns out everyone and their mother has a fruit opinion, and every one of those opinions is now in my inbox." |
| 00:41.00 | fooxor | haha |
| 00:41.07 | NeoTron | NivFreak: the marks for each category is hard coded to what my guild uses |
| 00:41.12 | NivFreak | ah |
| 00:41.17 | NivFreak | moon == sheep? :) |
| 00:41.26 | NeoTron | so sheep is always square, moon, triangle, tank is skull, star, circle etc |
| 00:41.34 | NivFreak | well, that's easy to change :) |
| 00:41.49 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 00:41.54 | NivFreak | that's pretty close to what I use |
| 00:42.21 | NivFreak | and yours auto-tags on mouse over? |
| 00:42.23 | NeoTron | yes |
| 00:42.28 | NivFreak | I'd love to play with it :) |
| 00:42.54 | NeoTron | 1) learn mode => mouse over and get a config page where you select categories for whatever you moused over, 2) mark mode => mouse over to mark it |
| 00:43.10 | NightHawkAtWork | .. this is awesome.. http://www.funcram.com/pictures/coin-balancing.html |
| 00:43.20 | NivFreak | NeoTron: manual toggle? |
| 00:43.25 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 00:43.31 | NeoTron | yeah it's a key binding to toggle the mode |
| 00:43.37 | NeoTron | also have manual mark/unmark |
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| 00:43.59 | NeoTron | so you can target, press a key to mark with the next available mark |
| 00:44.00 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r62924 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.xml: PiraPlex :- reset gui position whenever it is opened (never allow the gui to get stuck somewhere off screen) |
| 00:44.13 | NivFreak | in the end, I imagine it'd be nice to have different modes for 25/10/5 mans |
| 00:44.13 | WobWork | NightHawkAtWork: can you imagine how your fingers'd stink after doing those? |
| 00:44.33 | NightHawkAtWork | WobWork: o_0 |
| 00:44.34 | NeoTron | not really necessary is it? the mobs are different? |
| 00:44.47 | NivFreak | well, I personally mark differently for each |
| 00:44.50 | WobWork | NightHawkAtWork: handling that much coinage... |
| 00:44.55 | NivFreak | since there's a limited number of marks |
| 00:44.57 | NeoTron | you mean the categories |
| 00:45.02 | WobWork | do you know how dirty coins are? =) |
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| 00:45.17 | NeoTron | if the selected category is out of marks it falls back to a default list |
| 00:45.22 | NightHawkAtWork | WobWork: well, yes, but that certainly wasn't the first thought that came to my mind. :P |
| 00:45.28 | NivFreak | so I might have a symbol for sheep/seduce/shackle/tank |
| 00:45.29 | NivFreak | in a 5 man |
| 00:45.34 | NivFreak | but some of those are reused in a 25 |
| 00:45.46 | WobWork | NightHawkAtWork: I guess I extrapolate from "man.. if -I- were to do something like this...." |
| 00:45.59 | WobWork | although that really tall twisty one on the second page is cool |
| 00:46.21 | NeoTron | I don't really think it'd be so different to require anything special |
| 00:46.29 | NeoTron | I mean you can use your raid-defaults in a 5-man w/o a problem |
| 00:46.38 | WobWork | we do |
| 00:46.45 | NivFreak | I guess I'm just stubborn |
| 00:46.46 | WobWork | attack star first, then circle |
| 00:46.54 | NivFreak | but it sounds hot |
| 00:47.06 | WobWork | moon shackle, square trap, diamond banish |
| 00:47.07 | Chompers | what about instance specific mark setups |
| 00:47.10 | Chompers | a file for each |
| 00:47.23 | NeoTron | Chompers: but why? do you usually mark "sheep" different between instances? |
| 00:47.50 | Diao | that is a strange idea |
| 00:47.51 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so is it in svn? :) |
| 00:47.55 | Diao | why would star be first |
| 00:47.58 | Diao | skull and x first! |
| 00:47.59 | NeoTron | I don't have SVN access >:-) |
| 00:48.11 | NivFreak | have a copy up somewhere? |
| 00:48.13 | NeoTron | Diao: and that is why I need to have ability to customize categories :P |
| 00:48.38 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/MagicMarker.zip <-- still has the race condition issue with marking however |
| 00:48.48 | WobWork | Diao: cause it's how we've always done it =) |
| 00:49.41 | Hjalte | All of a sudden, the PTR client won't accept my password. |
| 00:49.45 | NivFreak | NeoTron: the race happens when you have duplicate unit names? |
| 00:49.46 | NeoTron | NivFreak: to use it you need to set the keybindings |
| 00:49.58 | NeoTron | it happens when you mouse on/off/on the same mob |
| 00:50.11 | NeoTron | reason being that there's a delay betwen SetRaidTarget and being able to query it |
| 00:50.11 | NivFreak | oh |
| 00:50.17 | NivFreak | ahh |
| 00:50.22 | NivFreak | and that's what you're working on now? |
| 00:50.22 | NeoTron | so I set it, mouse over again and see no target so it's set again |
| 00:50.24 | Zhinjio | our guild: skull, then x target order, moon shackle, diamond banish/lock fear, star - second shackle, thong: always assigned to whatever Acornchucker's toon is doing, because she's hot and always gets the thong. |
| 00:50.28 | NeoTron | nah I fixed that |
| 00:50.33 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:50.39 | NeoTron | but the version I have is in a state of flux trying to figure otu AceConfig :P |
| 00:50.44 | NivFreak | k |
| 00:50.48 | NivFreak | I'll try it when that's fixed ;) |
| 00:51.06 | NeoTron | it's not a big deal |
| 00:51.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Zhinjio: huh, i thought my guild was the only one to call it the thong. |
| 00:51.13 | Zhinjio | no way. |
| 00:51.14 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:51.16 | NeoTron | I didn't even notice it for the longest time :P |
| 00:51.17 | Zhinjio | alot of people do |
| 00:51.18 | NivFreak | I've never heard that |
| 00:51.23 | NivFreak | I call the circle a nipple though |
| 00:51.31 | Zhinjio | yeah, circle is nipple. |
| 00:51.31 | NeoTron | circle = condom |
| 00:51.35 | Zhinjio | or condom |
| 00:51.35 | Zhinjio | right |
| 00:51.38 | NightHawkAtWork | i've heard both a bunch |
| 00:51.42 | NeoTron | but wtf is the thong? |
| 00:51.46 | NeoTron | the trianble? |
| 00:51.48 | Zhinjio | green trianble |
| 00:51.49 | Zhinjio | g |
| 00:51.50 | NeoTron | lol |
| 00:51.54 | NeoTron | we both made the same typo |
| 00:52.01 | NivFreak | nice |
| 00:52.02 | NightHawkAtWork | you both fail. :P |
| 00:52.10 | Zhinjio | Indeed. |
| 00:52.17 | NeoTron | we also call purple diamong fag tag for some historical reason I don't rememebr |
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| 00:52.24 | NeoTron | s/mong/mond/ |
| 00:53.41 | Tekkub | *mumble* I'm making an "OMG HELP ME!" forum |
| 00:53.52 | Tekkub | people keep posting that shit in the addon forum |
| 00:53.53 | WobWork | circle is ROBOT NIPPLE |
| 00:54.18 | NeoTron | paid transfer is down to 1 month cooldown again |
| 00:54.28 | WobWork | That's a good sleep |
| 00:54.28 | NivFreak | NeoTron: really? |
| 00:54.30 | Diao | wtf |
| 00:54.35 | Diao | Zhinjio's guild uses the same marks my guild does |
| 00:54.39 | NivFreak | sweet, we can get my guldie back that got hacked and xfered! |
| 00:54.48 | Zhinjio | dude. |
| 00:54.56 | Zhinjio | you're really another one of Acornchucker's alts, aren't you |
| 00:55.02 | Zhinjio | Hawt. |
| 00:55.08 | WobWork | NivFreak: ... hacked and transferred? |
| 00:55.16 | WobWork | NivFreak: did the hacker pay for the transfer himself? |
| 00:55.32 | NivFreak | billed to his CC |
| 00:55.35 | NivFreak | afaik |
| 00:55.39 | WobWork | hm |
| 00:55.48 | NivFreak | blizzard wouldn't reverse it |
| 00:55.49 | WobWork | I had to enter in a new CC |
| 00:55.53 | WobWork | when I transferred |
| 00:56.00 | NivFreak | eh, maybe he lied |
| 00:56.02 | WobWork | maybe that's a recent change |
| 00:56.04 | NivFreak | but his excuse is gone now :) |
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| 00:56.16 | NeoTron | you have to enter a CC |
| 00:56.22 | Zhinjio | alternatively, when a pally is tanking ... all the marks are pally targets. |
| 00:56.24 | NeoTron | I just transferred two chars in the past few days |
| 00:56.26 | WobWork | I mean, I'd have preferred to be able to use my CC linked to the account |
| 00:56.28 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 00:56.34 | WobWork | but I can see how it might be abused |
| 00:56.44 | durcyn | transfers, renames etc are one-off transactions |
| 00:56.59 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:57.03 | NivFreak | I wouldn't be suprised if he lied |
| 00:57.11 | Zhinjio | what is the maximum amount of gold for one toon to have, given limits of numbers and whatever else in game, do you think? |
| 00:57.22 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: it's known |
| 00:57.23 | WobWork | 2^32? |
| 00:57.24 | Dashkal | 2^31 - 1 |
| 00:57.29 | WobWork | aha |
| 00:57.29 | WobWork | yeah |
| 00:57.30 | Dashkal | copper |
| 00:57.33 | Zhinjio | copper. |
| 00:57.34 | Zhinjio | right |
| 00:57.35 | WobWork | ~2^31-1 |
| 00:57.36 | purl | 28 |
| 00:57.41 | WobWork | .... |
| 00:57.44 | NeoTron | vhaarr: if MobInfo had a way to track how a mob is CCable that would be an awesome way to default stuff |
| 00:57.45 | WobWork | ~2^31 |
| 00:57.46 | purl | 29 |
| 00:57.49 | Zhinjio | hahaha |
| 00:57.54 | WobWork | ~2^(31) |
| 00:57.55 | purl | 29 |
| 00:57.55 | Dashkal | ~2**31 |
| 00:57.56 | purl | 2147483648 |
| 00:58.10 | NeoTron | that way you can assign target marks based only on what's in the group (number of mages etc) :) |
| 00:58.17 | WobWork | NeoTron: mobtype |
| 00:58.44 | WobWork | that doesn't cover the elites or specifically non ccable mobs though |
| 00:58.47 | Dashkal | Fortunately for the guy who hit the gold cap, they did _cap_ it there rather than let it roll negative |
| 00:58.58 | NeoTron | WobWork: currently if you set a mob to be 'tanked' I don't save it |
| 00:59.01 | NeoTron | since it's the default |
| 00:59.23 | NeoTron | I definitely still have work to do to make it "perfect" |
| 00:59.24 | vhaarr | NeoTron: that's what I'm thinking |
| 00:59.27 | vhaarr | NeoTron: and it's MobNotes |
| 00:59.30 | WobWork | Dashkal: "All of a sudden, the economy on the server got sucked into this black hole..." |
| 00:59.34 | NeoTron | ok |
| 01:00.02 | NeoTron | I need to prioritize CC over tank too. Perhaps first read all the mobs and then mark them on the second pass somehow |
| 01:00.12 | NeoTron | and certain mobs have higher CC priority |
| 01:00.42 | WobWork | Just have a scan phase and a mark phase |
| 01:00.48 | NeoTron | mark and sweep |
| 01:00.50 | WobWork | and indicate which |
| 01:00.51 | NeoTron | then gc() them |
| 01:00.54 | WobWork | so they know to resweep |
| 01:01.01 | NivFreak | well |
| 01:01.04 | NivFreak | I just transfered him back |
| 01:01.13 | NivFreak | so if he lied about it, I don't know why ;) |
| 01:01.22 | NivFreak | maybe they used a stolen CC |
| 01:01.39 | NeoTron | NivFreak: we had a guildy get stolen and xferred off to another server |
| 01:01.41 | Dashkal | WobWork: lol. I could just see that. Suddenly the ah starts working backwords thanks to an errant negative sign |
| 01:01.44 | Chaud | you can buy stolen CC # for very cheap so... |
| 01:01.48 | NeoTron | he got a return transfer when he reported it |
| 01:02.10 | WobWork | maybe he wasn't hacked at all =) |
| 01:02.12 | NeoTron | WobWork: alternatively you can remark targets |
| 01:02.36 | NeoTron | but sweep/mark would be more efficient |
| 01:02.59 | WobWork | NeoTron: You totally need sound effects |
| 01:03.03 | NeoTron | lol |
| 01:03.03 | NivFreak | NeoTron: it was wierd too |
| 01:03.07 | WobWork | it's something I never got around to adding into PB |
| 01:03.11 | NivFreak | NeoTron: they left 2 of his toons |
| 01:03.15 | NivFreak | and they were logged on playing one |
| 01:03.16 | WobWork | PEWPEWPEW |
| 01:03.21 | NivFreak | while he was talking to blizzard |
| 01:03.23 | Dashkal | Random offtopic question: I seem to remember in an old programming manual that in C you shouldn't let integers roll over because it would interfere with the next number in memory. Was there a processor for which that was ever true? |
| 01:03.26 | Zhinjio | hmm, I might be getting pulled into a ZA run tonight. darnit, I wantetd to get some coding done |
| 01:03.35 | Tekkub | new annoyed admin forum policy decree: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11608.msg184380#msg184380 |
| 01:03.40 | Tekkub | OBEY THE FIST |
| 01:03.46 | Zhinjio | Hey Tekkub! |
| 01:03.54 | NeoTron | NivFreak: there we go - when you enable marking it clearly has to open a window with a paintgun in the middle of the screen and shoot off balls when you mark something |
| 01:04.03 | chiper | Dashkal: wouldnt be processor based, but I could understand earlier OSes allowing that |
| 01:04.18 | chiper | that's basically the same as a stack overflow |
| 01:04.29 | WobWork | or go for the squeaky marker noise |
| 01:04.35 | WobWork | that you get when writing on whiteboards |
| 01:04.35 | NeoTron | oh god |
| 01:04.39 | NeoTron | chalk |
| 01:04.44 | NeoTron | go classic |
| 01:04.48 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:04.54 | Diao | ... |
| 01:04.59 | NivFreak | NeoTron: haha |
| 01:05.01 | Diao | this is the worst wsg i have ever joined |
| 01:05.12 | Diao | alliance has 4 resto druids 3 holy paladins a disc priest and a resto shaman holding the flag |
| 01:05.14 | WobWork | Diao: That's pretty bad =) |
| 01:05.21 | Diao | and they have 1 rogue for offense... |
| 01:05.25 | NeoTron | Diao: so basically they can't die |
| 01:05.27 | Diao | yes |
| 01:05.28 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:05.33 | Dashkal | I thought it _was_ processor based: The processor would just increment the next memory loc over in the face of an overflow bit |
| 01:05.37 | Diao | it's the most retarded wsg i have ever had to play |
| 01:05.40 | NeoTron | nor can they kill anything but hey, who's counting |
| 01:05.50 | Diao | well |
| 01:05.59 | Diao | they actually can kill stuff |
| 01:06.02 | Diao | with all their stuns/cyclones |
| 01:06.06 | WobWork | It just takes longer =) |
| 01:06.08 | Diao | i get cced to death |
| 01:06.11 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 01:06.14 | Diao | while my teammates die since i'm the only healer |
| 01:06.18 | Diao | it's so dumb |
| 01:06.26 | WobWork | it's an effective strategy |
| 01:06.31 | WobWork | if a bit obscure |
| 01:06.47 | WobWork | it's like that 5 boomkin arena team |
| 01:06.47 | Ellipsis | oh snap Tekkub, way to lay down the law |
| 01:06.54 | WobWork | which would stealth upon start |
| 01:07.04 | WobWork | then unleash treants all at once =P |
| 01:07.20 | Tekkub | yea well my motives are simple, I'm sick of reading "OMG HELP ME!" threads so I want them in a board I can ignore |
| 01:07.20 | WobWork | or maybe that was just a 3druid one |
| 01:07.22 | Dashkal | I like the 5 paladin team |
| 01:07.25 | Tekkub | :) |
| 01:07.31 | WobWork | Dashkal: oh god unkillable |
| 01:07.32 | Ellipsis | no argument here |
| 01:07.49 | NeoTron | I saw a 10-druid WSG |
| 01:07.53 | Dashkal | If only I could stand leveling a paladin I'd start one of those |
| 01:07.57 | WobWork | I can remember trying to take down a warrior backed by three pallies in EotS |
| 01:07.58 | NeoTron | but it was a mix between cats, trees and boomkins |
| 01:08.00 | WobWork | so impossible |
| 01:08.01 | Dashkal | face pull for life = fail, though |
| 01:08.12 | WobWork | Dashkal: agreed |
| 01:08.15 | NeoTron | but they were all cat-forming it into the enemy flagroom and unstealthing all at once |
| 01:08.25 | WobWork | heeh |
| 01:08.33 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 01:08.40 | NeoTron | it MIGHT have been a 10-tree WSG. I am not sure now |
| 01:08.41 | WobWork | "Surprise!" |
| 01:08.50 | WobWork | "Where'd the forest come from?" |
| 01:08.57 | NeoTron | I seem to recall them all standing in a line in their flagroom dancing when the first enemy player came in |
| 01:10.30 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62925 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua BananaDKP.toc libs/ type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Remove Roster-2.1 and SEEA-2.0, we don't need them. |
| 01:12.20 | NeoTron | vhaarr: so I can see how MobNotes would be nice to combine with a "cc-able" field but it clearly needs to be extended to support it |
| 01:12.28 | vhaarr | NeoTron: indeed |
| 01:12.37 | vhaarr | NeoTron: completely redone, in fact |
| 01:13.12 | NeoTron | well 2.4 => unit id goodness |
| 01:13.58 | NeoTron | it is a good idea to put it in a separate addon though. I can still have my learn mode but just store the data in that addon |
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| 01:14.59 | NeoTron | although I would still need to be able to prioritize mobs |
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| 01:16.05 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:16.13 | WobWork | wowmatrix just pulls from files.wowace doesn't it? |
| 01:16.25 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62926 10AuraToChat/ (AuraToChat.lua AuraToChat.toc libs/): AuraToChat: Remove Roster-2.1, we don't need it. |
| 01:16.25 | WobWork | but without WAU's ads =P |
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| 01:17.32 | Antiarc | If I was to upgrade my machine, the Core Duo e8400 looks to be the best bang/buck currently? |
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| 01:23.12 | NeoTron | last time I upgraded, AMD was still the champion in performance and price :P |
| 01:23.12 | WobWork | nor I |
| 01:23.24 | NivFreak | AMD == fail |
| 01:23.25 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:23.48 | Dashkal | Still an AMD fanboy... right up until the file chapter 11 :p |
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| 01:24.22 | Keias | !ar 1986 |
| 01:24.23 | WoWLuaircBot | Keias: Points given is above or below the threshold for conversion (all 0s). Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points (!ap)? Either way, you fail at life. |
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| 01:24.37 | Keias | !ap 1986 |
| 01:24.38 | WoWLuaircBot | Keias: Arena points from a rating of 1986 is, 2v2: 787, 3v3: 911, 5v5: 1036 |
| 01:24.43 | Keias | always get that shit backwards :( |
| 01:25.56 | Yssaril | is there any easy way to round numbers in lua? ( 1.5 would turn to 2 while 1.4999 would turn to 1) |
| 01:26.34 | Tifi | function round(x) return math.floor(x+0.5) end |
| 01:27.14 | Tifi | or do you need strings? |
| 01:27.19 | Yssaril | tifi thanks (why couldn't i think of that |
| 01:27.33 | Tifi | string.format rounds too |
| 01:27.47 | Yssaril | nope need numbers :) |
| 01:27.49 | Tifi | kk |
| 01:27.55 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62927 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua embeds.xml libs/): FuBar_GroupFu: Remove Roster-2.1, we don't need it. |
| 01:28.08 | Tifi | not sure about negative numbers though |
| 01:28.28 | Tifi | lua> function round(x) return math.floor(x+0.5) end print(round(-1.5)) |
| 01:28.28 | lua_bot | Tifi: -1 |
| 01:28.38 | Tifi | lua> function round(x) return math.floor(x+0.5) end print(round(-1.4)) |
| 01:28.39 | lua_bot | Tifi: -1 |
| 01:28.41 | Yssaril | numbers will be in range of 0-255 so no realy worry about negatives :) |
| 01:28.43 | ckknight | Yssaril: for simple asymmetric rounding, math.floor(x+0.5) works |
| 01:28.57 | ckknight | if you want a good rounding system, I recommend banker's rounding |
| 01:29.03 | WobWork | agreed |
| 01:29.04 | Tifi | lua> function round(x) return math.floor(x+0.5) end print(round(-1.51)) |
| 01:29.05 | lua_bot | Tifi: -2 |
| 01:29.30 | Yssaril | ckknight: whats this banker rounding? |
| 01:31.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Yssaril: wiki it |
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| 01:31.41 | ckknight | http://pastebin.ca/918325 |
| 01:31.41 | ckknight | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding |
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| 01:32.57 | Yssaril | cool thanks (overkill for me though atm) |
| 01:33.01 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62928 10LootWhore/ (LootWhore.lua LootWhore.toc libs/): LootWhore: Remove Roster-2.1. |
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| 01:34.07 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r62929 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: |
| 01:34.07 | CIA-9 | PiraPlex :- |
| 01:34.07 | CIA-9 | - refine highlighting of unavailable deps in checkbox tooltips |
| 01:34.07 | CIA-9 | - grab a local _G pointer |
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| 01:41.24 | NivFreak | ahh |
| 01:41.29 | NivFreak | I see what happened to this guy |
| 01:41.35 | NivFreak | they stole his account and sold it |
| 01:41.40 | NivFreak | and the new "owner" xfered the toons off |
| 01:42.26 | robotusch | Who? |
| 01:42.34 | NivFreak | one of my guldies |
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| 01:44.10 | break19 | Benumbed: you there? |
| 01:45.58 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62930 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Make Tourist-2.0 optional. |
| 01:47.12 | Ellipsis | when you pick herbs/mine ore, does the item automatically go to your herb/mining bag if you have it equipped? |
| 01:47.43 | NightHawkAtWork | yes, i believe so |
| 01:48.10 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r62931 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.xml: PiraPlex :- do a full status refresh onshow |
| 01:48.56 | break19 | Ellipsis: I can expound upon that. Yes, it defaults to that.. only time it wont, is if there's no room in that bag, then it'll behave as if you had no specialty bag |
| 01:49.10 | Ellipsis | hmkay, thanks |
| 01:51.14 | Yssaril | need an opinion about http://ace.pastey.net/82938 its a table lookup table for values between 0 and 1 and converts them to the hex equivilant string '00' to 'ff' |
| 01:54.52 | break19 | anyone here use DaPortrait? |
| 01:57.26 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62932 10Recount2/expression.lua: |
| 01:57.26 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 01:57.26 | CIA-9 | -Operators for the expression evaluator are no longer hard coded and can be added with :AddExpressionOperation(opCode, opFunc, priority). Lower priority mean earlier execution (starting w/ 1) |
| 01:57.26 | CIA-9 | -Adds an If func to the expression evaluator 'If(a,b,c)' if a is true then returns b else return c. Unfortunately the stack machine has no way to only process one path so both will get executed |
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| 02:04.45 | Mikk | Yssaril: isn't it a lot faster to just | string.format("%02x", num*255) | |
| 02:05.24 | Mikk | assuming | local format = string.format | anyway |
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| 02:05.53 | Mikk | and yeah everyone can stop doing ("%02x"):format(blah) because it's SLOWER |
| 02:07.02 | Mikk | lua> string.format("%02x", 1*255) |
| 02:07.02 | lua_bot | Mikk: ff |
| 02:07.11 | Mikk | lua> string.format("%02x", 1) |
| 02:07.12 | lua_bot | Mikk: 01 |
| 02:07.34 | Yssaril | mikk no idea baout speed thought it was fater to just look it up if possible :P |
| 02:07.41 | Mikk | doubt it |
| 02:07.46 | Mikk | can check |
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| 02:08.48 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r62933 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Proximity: More tweaks |
| 02:08.52 | Yssaril | lua> string.format("%02x", .5*255) |
| 02:08.52 | lua_bot | Yssaril: 7f |
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| 02:10.23 | Yssaril | hmmm that should be 80 not 7f if you round properly :) |
| 02:10.53 | CIA-9 | 03starinnia * r62935 10MobileVault/ (Core.lua Frames.lua): MobileVault: Fix nil errors on lines 387 and 502 of previous commit |
| 02:12.14 | Mikk | hrm.. your snippet bails on stack overflow |
| 02:12.46 | Yssaril | that dosn't sound good |
| 02:13.34 | Yssaril | worked fine in my ingame test :) though that wasn't to big of a test |
| 02:13.50 | Guillotine | Ellipsis: ping |
| 02:14.07 | Ellipsis | pong |
| 02:14.11 | Guillotine | Cameron around? |
| 02:14.20 | Ellipsis | he's on his way back from work |
| 02:14.33 | Guillotine | alright, thanks :) |
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| 02:16.08 | Mikk | another problem with your approach is that if i request the color for something that isn't an exact multiple of 1/255, the __index function will get run every single time |
| 02:16.42 | Mikk | okay, changed that around |
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| 02:17.39 | Mikk | yeah ok, after fixing the snippet, it's ~7 times faster |
| 02:17.47 | Mikk | but there is no upper limit to the size of your table |
| 02:18.45 | Mikk | Yssaril: http://ace.pastey.net/82942 <- fixed version |
| 02:19.26 | Mikk | But like I said, if you're not guaranteed a small input set (e.g. integer percentages), your memo table can grow indefinitely |
| 02:19.51 | Mikk | Consider | for i=0,1,0.00000001 do print(PTH[i]) end | |
| 02:20.00 | Mikk | ^ tadaa, 1 gig entries in the table |
| 02:20.18 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62936 10SimpleBossWhisperer/SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: SimpleBossWhisperer: Include how many (X/Y) players are alive in the status whispers. |
| 02:20.39 | Yssaril | hmm was gonna use it to color some parts of text depending on somones health% |
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| 02:21.06 | vhaarr | Yssaril: Crayon has neat functions for coloring based on a scale. |
| 02:21.22 | vhaarr | Yssaril: Or you might want to peak at the Bars.lua module in BigWigs\Plugins |
| 02:22.03 | Guillotine | If you're trying to color on a scale, check out TasteTheNaimbow. I just convert the color to an HSV scale to get all vibrant colors |
| 02:22.28 | Nandini | HSV is a much more "intuitive" color model for computing gradients as well |
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| 02:23.00 | vhaarr | Guillotine: How do you expect us to check it out when it's not on the SVN? jeez. |
| 02:23.13 | vhaarr | l2p, get your addon up |
| 02:23.18 | Guillotine | *shrug* |
| 02:23.22 | Nandini | for example, if you want to pick a "color halfway between two other colors", using the hue component is much more intuitive than simply the average of rgb components |
| 02:23.31 | Guillotine | right |
| 02:24.12 | Yssaril | already got the gradient stuff figured out using rgb :) |
| 02:24.14 | Nandini | it irks me that you have to transform color models yourself or use a color picker widget to do it tho |
| 02:24.20 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62937 10Recount2/expression.lua: |
| 02:24.20 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 02:24.20 | CIA-9 | -Fixes so functions work properly again |
| 02:24.20 | CIA-9 | -Replacements are done only at the very end of compiling an expression now |
| 02:24.20 | CIA-9 | -Fixed a missing local |
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| 02:24.43 | vhaarr | Yssaril: I have some coloring hsv/rgb functions in AuraToChat as well on the svn |
| 02:25.01 | vhaarr | Yssaril: But Bars.lua in bigwigs generates a table of colors in a gradient based on an input color |
| 02:25.02 | Yssaril | hmm |
| 02:25.09 | vhaarr | to iterate through for emphasized bars |
| 02:25.15 | Cryect | Lets just use YCbCr |
| 02:25.21 | Mikk | Yssaril: for your specific implementation, I'd precompute percentages 0--100 with readymade R,G,B values |
| 02:25.32 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 02:25.38 | xyu | For RoS fight, is there a certain HP you need to stay in for a fixate or whatever? |
| 02:25.46 | xyu | I seem to be dying |
| 02:25.50 | xyu | in only 1 fixate |
| 02:26.11 | Kivin | my raid fails :( Can't kill the eagle god in ZA |
| 02:26.24 | Mikk | eagle god is a healer test |
| 02:26.30 | Yssaril | hmm i think i might just convert to a 0-255 integer based table and make sure i ony feed it integers |
| 02:26.31 | Kivin | yeah and the healers are failing horribly |
| 02:26.32 | Mikk | have resto druid + resto shaman |
| 02:26.35 | Mikk | = win |
| 02:26.49 | Kivin | we have three very tier 4ed healers and they're just not keeping up. at all. |
| 02:26.51 | JakeM | Is it just me or is Quartz a laggy cast bar? |
| 02:27.04 | [dRaCo] | that'd be you |
| 02:27.06 | Mikk | Yssaril: no, make it a 0..100 table, with readymade r,g,b values |
| 02:27.08 | xyu | just you |
| 02:27.14 | JakeM | I wonder if it's a resolution issue. |
| 02:27.19 | JakeM | Because it's certainly not a machine issue. |
| 02:27.26 | Mikk | Yssaril: that way you can prep whatever funky scale you like |
| 02:27.44 | JakeM | Pitbull's castbar is almost as bad, though. |
| 02:27.45 | Mikk | Yssaril: and just look it up and hey presto - something to color the bar with |
| 02:27.57 | JakeM | I have to use the GCD timer bar to time my wrath spam because the player bar is almost half a second behind. |
| 02:27.58 | CIA-9 | 03gagorian * r62938 10DrDamage/Data/Priest.lua: |
| 02:27.58 | CIA-9 | DrDamage: |
| 02:27.58 | CIA-9 | - Did some holy nova coefficient testing and fixed it within an absolute maximum error of about +-0.4% (could try more precise later with more dmg/heal gear) |
| 02:29.12 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: a suggestion: an option to disable mind control bar swapping in BT. (so if users don't want it, bar1 won't switch to pet bar) |
| 02:29.14 | Gagorian | Way too mana expensive for any really reliable testing |
| 02:29.15 | Gagorian | >_> |
| 02:29.38 | Gngsk | chain innervates imo |
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| 02:29.48 | durcyn | Gagorian: PTR gear bug fixed yet? should use that. |
| 02:30.03 | Gagorian | Well blizz brought the servers down for that |
| 02:30.13 | Gagorian | So I really doubt it will be on when it comes back :P |
| 02:30.20 | Gagorian | Gngsk: Totally agree |
| 02:30.23 | Gagorian | Need druid slaves |
| 02:30.30 | Mikk | Kivin: it also helps if you have someone killing some eagles, like a warlock dotting em up, and other classes spamming whatever they have that does extra damage on the side.. e.g. pally tank consecrating, druid tank swiping, hunters multishotting, and so forth |
| 02:30.50 | Mikk | warrior popping sweeping strikes |
| 02:30.52 | Mikk | etc |
| 02:31.28 | Mikk | and when you're standing under the cloud, it's a good time for aoe:ey classes to have a go at eagles swooping in, since they'll all be swooping to the same place |
| 02:32.05 | Groktar-Impulse | that +dmg debuff stacking is what usually kills people for my guild |
| 02:32.08 | Groktar-Impulse | not the eagles |
| 02:32.19 | NivFreak | on akil'zon? |
| 02:32.19 | Mikk | erm... run aside if you get it stacked |
| 02:32.21 | [dRaCo] | spread out |
| 02:32.27 | NivFreak | you aren't spread out enough |
| 02:32.31 | Groktar-Impulse | yes, i know |
| 02:32.38 | Groktar-Impulse | i'm trying to help the guy wiping on it |
| 02:32.46 | NivFreak | Mikk: we just have a lock put seeds on akil'zon |
| 02:32.49 | NivFreak | that takes out enough of the birds |
| 02:32.54 | Mikk | aye that works =) |
| 02:33.26 | NivFreak | I tank him in the center, everyone spreads out in a circle around him |
| 02:33.30 | NivFreak | outside the box |
| 02:33.35 | NivFreak | at 5s from the storm CD |
| 02:33.38 | NivFreak | we collapse in |
| 02:34.32 | Mikk | mmm. voicecomm ftw so you can scream at dpsmonkeys too busy to dps to notice that it's time to collapse in |
| 02:34.46 | [dRaCo] | that's what bossmods are for ^^ |
| 02:34.51 | Mikk | pffffff |
| 02:35.06 | Mikk | i know they all have them. i check each 25man raid. |
| 02:35.11 | Mikk | but they sure act like they dont! |
| 02:35.25 | JakeM | Awesome |
| 02:35.26 | Mikk | only thing that works is screaming on vent |
| 02:35.31 | JakeM | Pitbull totally dropped my bar textures. |
| 02:35.40 | [dRaCo] | JakeM: check the changelog |
| 02:35.53 | JakeM | If LiteStep went away I'm going to be sad. |
| 02:36.10 | [dRaCo] | it probably still is in SharedMedia-something |
| 02:36.47 | [dRaCo] | Mikk: same here, but I still do not understand why they don't get it |
| 02:37.30 | [dRaCo] | seems like I pay more attention to what happens on my screen when drunk and talking to people irl than they do when just raiding :( |
| 02:37.32 | Mikk | well.. the average guy can keep track of like 3 things... fighter pilots can keep track of more. idiots have problems with walking + chewing gum. |
| 02:38.27 | [dRaCo] | does playing wow count as one thing? |
| 02:38.30 | JakeM | Anyone else play at 2560x1600? |
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| 02:38.40 | JakeM | I'm really thinking my Quartz problems are resolution bound |
| 02:38.58 | [dRaCo] | or do we have to seperate that into stuff like smashing buttons, checking health bars, etc? |
| 02:38.58 | durcyn | i do, quartz is fine here |
| 02:39.21 | [dRaCo] | JakeM: easy to check, turn your resolution down |
| 02:39.46 | Mikk | mashing "pain" button: 1 thing |
| 02:39.52 | JakeM | Yeah, just being lazy because I refuse to play at a lower resolution. |
| 02:39.52 | Mikk | checking cooldowns for other buttons: 1 thing |
| 02:39.54 | JakeM | Looks like ass. |
| 02:40.04 | Mikk | looking at what happens around you: 1 thing |
| 02:40.15 | Mikk | reading bossmods messages: 1 thing |
| 02:40.17 | Mikk | ^ uhoh, that's 4 |
| 02:40.22 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 02:41.54 | Mikk | i swear, bigwigs would work better if it hollered less about various timers going off and did more flashing of "MOVE THE FUCK AWAY OR YOU BLOW THE RAID UP" in the middle of the screen |
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| 02:42.37 | [dRaCo] | turn on that flash & shake module thingy |
| 02:42.41 | Mikk | not good enuf |
| 02:42.59 | Mikk | "Static charge on YOU." <- mkay? |
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| 02:43.07 | Mikk | "RUN AWAY!!!!!1111" <- Yes! |
| 02:43.45 | Funkeh` | the problem is reading the message, not what it says |
| 02:44.14 | [dRaCo] | make bigwigs play sound files |
| 02:44.16 | Mikk | Yeah, becaues there's something going BINGGG every 5 seconds |
| 02:44.20 | [dRaCo] | "move, suckah!" |
| 02:44.32 | Mikk | It needs to BINGGG less for the little stuff and AWOOOGAH AWOOOGAH more for the really important stuff |
| 02:44.51 | Miyari | LOL |
| 02:45.01 | Miyari | http://www.nordrassil.org/awooga.jpg |
| 02:45.05 | Miyari | EVERYTHING needs more awooga |
| 02:45.41 | Mikk | i was more thinking along the lines of klaxon noises tbfh :P |
| 02:46.01 | Miyari | haha |
| 02:46.14 | [dRaCo] | you guys got too many warglaives, miyari :/ |
| 02:46.16 | Miyari | </3 bigwigs noises |
| 02:46.37 | Miyari | need to make it just yell 'YOU GONNA DIE D: |
| 02:46.39 | Miyari | :( |
| 02:46.43 | Funkeh` | then turn them off or change them |
| 02:46.48 | Miyari | I did :p |
| 02:46.50 | Miyari | I ignore bigwigs |
| 02:46.52 | break19 | Mikk: you need a sound.. make your bigwigs play "Move bitch.. get out the way.. get out the way.." |
| 02:47.01 | Mikk | http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2008-02-23_1269608258720402/sfx/aoogah.wav |
| 02:47.03 | Miyari | lol sartura >_< |
| 02:47.04 | Mikk | ^ There we go! |
| 02:47.12 | aestil | http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/Search.do?c=1&searchType=user&keyword=SR875&searchSection=All&go.x=0&go.y=0 |
| 02:47.14 | aestil | i'd like that. |
| 02:47.16 | Miyari | LOL Mikk |
| 02:47.29 | Miyari | Omen should do that when your threat is too high |
| 02:47.37 | Miyari | Maybe one of those computerized "WARNING! WARNING!" |
| 02:48.10 | Mikk | Mmm you have a point tbh |
| 02:48.18 | Mikk | Sounds could be more instructive than they are today |
| 02:48.26 | Mikk | Lots of bing & blop & ding |
| 02:48.42 | Miyari | That's what raid members are for :( |
| 02:48.42 | aestil | i don't think BW is trying to tell you what you should do, only what the boss is doing. |
| 02:48.45 | Diao | danger will robinson |
| 02:48.48 | aestil | you're supposed to know what to do. |
| 02:52.44 | Yssaril | bah how about an audio commentary on how you are doing on a boss and what to do next with the voice of mikk |
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| 02:53.16 | [dRaCo] | "stupid, the boss was supposed to be dead 10 minutes ago"? |
| 02:53.18 | NivFreak | you should just add a sound that yells "QUIT LIFE" and use it for everything |
| 02:54.30 | Mikk | aestil: yeah i know the BW philosophy, and tbh i agree with it. it's just so fecking frustrating sometimes when people don't notice that one messages out of 75 that means "run the fuck away or you wipe us!" |
| 02:54.57 | aestil | *nods* |
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| 02:58.06 | Antiarc | WoW doesn't play ogg files, does it? |
| 02:58.35 | Mikk | I'd doubt it |
| 02:58.38 | Yssaril | Antiarc: the new sound engine supports it idk if that got implemented into wow though |
| 02:59.03 | Cryect | they using fmod or something? |
| 02:59.33 | HotFO-blama | Does anyone know why Routes will not let me add a route for any places in Azeroth? |
| 02:59.47 | Yssaril | Cryect: i think they do |
| 03:00.07 | lagger | anyone know how texture:SetGradient works? |
| 03:00.36 | Cryect | Yeah they are it appears |
| 03:00.46 | Cryect | WEll it lets you set a gradient vertically or horizontally |
| 03:00.55 | Cryect | what exactly do you want to know beyond |
| 03:01.10 | Cryect | the wiki that is |
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| 03:02.31 | Ellipsis | HotFO-blama: routes doesn't work outside outland, since it would be pretty much useless there anyway without flying mounts... |
| 03:02.36 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r62939 10MobileVault/ (Core.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua Locales/Locale-koKR.lua): |
| 03:02.36 | CIA-9 | MobileVault: |
| 03:02.37 | CIA-9 | - More localization |
| 03:02.37 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:02.50 | HotFO-blama | arg buckets |
| 03:03.01 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: change your worldmap to the zone you want then open routes config |
| 03:03.09 | Mikk | I think routes outside outland is being worked on.. i think i saw exclusion zone thingies in a screenshot recently |
| 03:03.10 | Arrowmaster | that or actually goto the zone im not sure which |
| 03:03.50 | Ellipsis | the taboo area feature is in, yeah, but I don't think they removed the outland check yet |
| 03:03.56 | Antiarc | BigWigs should play this when you wipe: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/your_team_lost.mp3 |
| 03:04.37 | Yssaril | Antiarc: i like that one |
| 03:04.43 | Mikk | For raid morale I think I'd prefer benny hill |
| 03:04.53 | Mikk | That's what we tend to get played over vent anyway :P |
| 03:04.57 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/demoman_jeers11.wav |
| 03:05.08 | Mikk | Except if it's Archi, then we get Ring of Fire |
| 03:05.43 | Mikk | (Yes, Johnny Cash) |
| 03:07.03 | Antiarc | Hmm. |
| 03:07.07 | Antiarc | I think that if you pull aggro and die |
| 03:07.14 | Antiarc | Omen should play this: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/engineer_specialcompleted10.wav |
| 03:08.18 | durcyn | those aren't exactly public domain |
| 03:08.18 | Antiarc | I know |
| 03:08.23 | Antiarc | Which is why I'm not using them |
| 03:08.25 | Antiarc | But I want to :P |
| 03:08.44 | durcyn | i might have to jack the lose sound for casualty though >_> |
| 03:09.01 | Miyari | lol Antiarc |
| 03:09.14 | Miyari | I would love that |
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| 03:10.10 | Mikk | yay @ tired people AHing stuff before they go to bed... buy 3 noble topaz at the price of 1 .. meant to undercut :P |
| 03:11.15 | Diao | o_o |
| 03:12.42 | Mikk | what can i say.. running bottomscanner in the background while coding = win |
| 03:13.14 | Mikk | after you've been running it for a month and fine tuned it to get rid of all the noise anyway >:< |
| 03:13.25 | break19 | heh |
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| 03:18.23 | Aeyan | Oh, nifty, a HALP! forum |
| 03:19.04 | Mikk | Can we send fisker or sag_ich_nicht there? |
| 03:19.22 | Aeyan | By all means |
| 03:20.27 | Cryect | Oh nice so they added a UnitGUID ^_^ |
| 03:20.42 | Shirik | what you didn't hear Antiarc? |
| 03:20.50 | Cryect | no I wasn't here earlier apparenrlt |
| 03:20.51 | Shirik | When he found that out he was screaming at the top of his lungs for 3 days :P |
| 03:21.44 | Cryect | Looks like they mentioned it while I was waiting for a plane to fly back from GDC |
| 03:22.08 | Cryect | He sure said yes enough after the post |
| 03:22.36 | Cryect | Not sure why he wanted to get rid of LibGUIDRegistry considering it still has a ton of useful info that should be kept consolidated in a single addon |
| 03:22.47 | Antiarc | I was joking :P |
| 03:22.52 | Cryect | Ah! :-p |
| 03:22.57 | Antiarc | But we can get rid of its primary purpose, which was unitid -> guid conversion |
| 03:23.02 | Antiarc | Other stuff will remain useful |
| 03:23.19 | Cryect | You know that wasn't my primary use of it :-p |
| 03:23.23 | Cryect | I was using everything else except that |
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| 03:24.34 | Mikk | Sooo.. you guys have been good little wikignomes and kept wowwiki's event listing up to date, yes? |
| 03:24.42 | Cryect | but there is little reason I really care about UnitID's in a damage tracker if the other addon can give me all the info |
| 03:24.47 | Cryect | No |
| 03:24.51 | Cryect | or at least no last time I checked |
| 03:25.00 | Cryect | like none of the new events were in last weekend :-p |
| 03:25.03 | Mikk | ~lart the slackers |
| 03:25.03 | purl | declares the slackers a moron |
| 03:25.58 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.59 | Antiarc | FYI |
| 03:26.01 | Mikk | I'd do it if I knew what it looked like. But that would require me learning it first. |
| 03:26.21 | Yssaril | Antiarc: now does it work on macs as well? |
| 03:26.27 | Antiarc | Hell if I know |
| 03:27.10 | Cryect | it should |
| 03:27.19 | Cryect | thats like half the reason to license fmod |
| 03:27.27 | Mikk | heh |
| 03:27.33 | Mikk | ya right :P |
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| 03:34.59 | Gngsk | vhaarr, I notice your name in the cutup credits. Could I ask which module you have experience with? |
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| 03:39.54 | break19 | Gngsk: can he really stop you from asking? |
| 03:40.25 | Gngsk | suppose he could just ignore me |
| 03:40.27 | break19 | he might not answer.. but he can't stop you from asking. :) |
| 03:40.38 | Kivin | what db key do i specify in Ace3DB:New() to share the same database across all chars on all realms? |
| 03:40.38 | HotFO-blama | Anyone here use ArenaHistory? |
| 03:40.41 | break19 | ... semantics :) |
| 03:41.58 | Antiarc | Kivin: account, I think? |
| 03:42.10 | Kivin | Antiarc: actually, it's global. looked it up on the wiki, but thanks |
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| 03:48.21 | Fisker- | OF COURSE |
| 03:48.22 | Fisker- | n00bs |
| 03:48.39 | Fisker- | what did blizzard do to the ptrs? |
| 03:48.45 | Corgan | ate them. |
| 03:48.48 | Corgan | NOM NOM NOM |
| 03:48.50 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 03:48.52 | Fisker- | nom nom nom |
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| 03:54.06 | Chaud | The PTRs will be down the rest of the evening while we resolve an issue with the new configuration. |
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| 03:56.00 | CIA-9 | 03kivin * r62940 10KivinSpamGuard/rules/english.lua: KivinSpamGuard: More english filter contributions, courtesy of ssegaming and wow-dupe dot com. Thanks, guys =/ |
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| 04:03.34 | Antiarc | Kivin: Tell me how I uses Lootzor. |
| 04:04.05 | Kivin | Antiarc: whatever's on the trunk atm is a skeleton project. the working one isn't getting uploaded til I get more loot tables in it |
| 04:04.10 | Kivin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.17 | Antiarc | Oh, it doesn't use the WDB cache? |
| 04:04.23 | Kivin | negative |
| 04:04.30 | Kivin | it's basically a more compact version of atlasloot |
| 04:04.35 | Antiarc | Ahh, okay. |
| 04:05.08 | Kivin | I just overhauled it under a new name and added icon texture support and a cleaner ui, so the trunk version is in major neglect |
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| 04:05.25 | Kivin | wtb AceHook3 documentation |
| 04:05.32 | Antiarc | It's super easy to use |
| 04:05.54 | Kivin | Yeah, elegant, just not intuitive |
| 04:06.08 | Cryect | whats not intuitive? |
| 04:06.10 | Kivin | I had to get someone to teach me how to do a hook last time i used it, because there were no docs. now i've forgotten, again |
| 04:06.33 | Cryect | isn't it just pass the func you want to hook and and the hooking function? |
| 04:07.10 | Cryect | yep it is I see |
| 04:07.21 | Kivin | I dunno, the last time, I had two issues. First, I was only getting hook procs after the original function called. When someone helped me fix that, I was having error messages that it isn't secure, or some such |
| 04:07.41 | Cryect | well if its not secure you need to tell it to use hookSecure |
| 04:07.44 | Cryect | -- ("function" [, handler] [, hookSecure]) or (object, "method" [, handler] [, hookSecure]) |
| 04:07.45 | Cryect | function AceHook:Hook(object, method, handler, hookSecure) |
| 04:08.03 | Kivin | what's hookSecure=true do? I don't want a secure hook, I want to interrupt the original function from being called? |
| 04:08.06 | Cryect | so you either tell it the function name of your class or you tell it the name of the object and its function name |
| 04:08.30 | Cryect | hookSecure=true would give you a secure hook if it has to be secure |
| 04:08.32 | Kivin | And I THINK I want RawHook, or something. Not :Hook |
| 04:08.49 | Kivin | No. No. I don't want a secure hook. |
| 04:09.02 | Kivin | Taint is fine, I have to interrupt the original function |
| 04:09.09 | Cryect | I have no idea the diff between hook & rawhook |
| 04:09.17 | Kivin | Then I need someoen who does. |
| 04:09.21 | Kivin | WTB AceHook3 docs |
| 04:09.23 | Cryect | you want to interrupt the function? |
| 04:09.25 | Kivin | yes |
| 04:09.30 | Cryect | then you don't want to hook |
| 04:09.34 | Cryect | you want to override :-p |
| 04:09.56 | Kivin | I don't want a "Function X was just called.", I want a "Function X would've been called. Instead, HookFunctionX was." |
| 04:10.39 | Cryect | Is there a reason to try to safehook then instead of just replacing the function? |
| 04:11.12 | Antiarc | If you don't mind hiding the original, just replace it. |
| 04:11.17 | Kivin | I'm not safe hooking |
| 04:11.25 | Cryect | if you are using Ace3 hooking you are |
| 04:11.37 | Kivin | maybe that's the difference between Hook and RawHook |
| 04:11.57 | Kivin | I know what I"m trying to do is ridiculously easy, just not intuitive |
| 04:12.02 | Cryect | the whole point of that is to make sure you can have multiple functions hook the same function and have one of them remove the hook without breaking the chain |
| 04:12.26 | break19 | so I was bored: http://i27.tinypic.com/2mzwdox.jpg |
| 04:13.16 | aestil | Xinhuan: can i improve teh clustering slightly by reducing the range to like 50? |
| 04:13.28 | aestil | i'm confused by how that setting works. |
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| 04:14.04 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: I'm going to guess that a larger value would try to cluster nodes in a larger area into a single vertex. |
| 04:14.18 | NightHawkTheSane | so a larger value -> less overall points, smallere value -> more overall points |
| 04:14.20 | Kivin | self:RawHook("ChatFrame_OnEvent", true) <- i think that's what i want to do. i'll have to test it |
| 04:14.29 | Cryect | ah rawhook won't callback the original function |
| 04:14.33 | Cryect | without you telling it to |
| 04:14.38 | Kivin | that's exactly what i want |
| 04:15.03 | break19 | aestil: NightHawkTheSane is correct.. smaller value means only within that value.. so obviously, the larger the value, the more nodes you can get at once, rather than going to each individually. |
| 04:15.06 | Cryect | Shrug I don't think I would embed ace3Hook if thats the functionality I wanted |
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| 04:15.54 | break19 | aestil: I have my clustering set to 80 |
| 04:16.01 | Cryect | I guess it lets you remove your hook "safer" of course but I'm not sure if I trust Ace3Hook to make the decisions I wanted with how it to process all the hooks |
| 04:17.18 | Jaxon | . |
| 04:17.25 | NightHawkTheSane | .. |
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| 04:20.51 | Atriace | I'm not familiar with Ace, but I have 1 function I need to perform for it |
| 04:21.10 | Atriace | If the default for registering settings is something like: Bartender3:RegisterDefaults('profile', Bartender3.defaults) |
| 04:21.23 | Atriace | How would you register another profile of settings? |
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| 04:21.40 | Fisker- | you got ownt Ellipsis |
| 04:21.43 | Kivin | Atriace: You want to change bartender's defaults? |
| 04:21.51 | Kivin | Atriace: Or just change it's profile? |
| 04:21.56 | Atriace | Not the defaults, just add another set. |
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| 04:22.08 | Kivin | Bartender3:SetProfile() maybe? |
| 04:22.09 | Kivin | just a sec |
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| 04:22.25 | Atriace | Bartender3:SetProfile() changes the profile to X profile, I believe. |
| 04:22.30 | Kivin | yes |
| 04:22.36 | ulic | !ar 1442 |
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| 04:22.37 | WoWLuaircBot | ulic: Arena rating from 1442 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 2534 |
| 04:22.39 | Kivin | Bartender3:SetProfile("MyCustomProfile") |
| 04:22.49 | Atriace | Doesn't set it as in register a series of settings for the profile (thereby creating a profile). |
| 04:23.07 | Atriace | Or... would that be the same syntax anyway? |
| 04:23.10 | Arrowmaster | what do you want to do? |
| 04:23.11 | Kivin | that'll imbue MyCustomProfile with the defaults from :RegisterDefaults |
| 04:23.31 | Kivin | then you can change those settings manually if you want. Bartender3.db.profile.SomeSetting = value |
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| 04:24.30 | Atriace | Bartender contains a series of settings (X number of rows, X style for buttons, etc...) inside Defaults.lua. I want to add to the list another profile with the same specificity. After its registered into the Bartender memory, change the profile to it at load time. |
| 04:25.07 | Kivin | Don't tamper with bartender's defaults |
| 04:25.21 | Atriace | I don't plan to, Kivin. :) |
| 04:25.32 | Kivin | that's *exactly* what you're asking, if i'm reading that correctly |
| 04:25.41 | Atriace | Ah, slightly different. |
| 04:25.56 | Atriace | I want to simply create *another* profile. |
| 04:26.04 | Kivin | the defalts in Defaults.lua are programmed to be plugged into *all* new profiles. |
| 04:26.04 | Kivin | :SetProfile(YourProfileNameHere) |
| 04:26.04 | Kivin | that's it |
| 04:26.27 | Atriace | I'll give it a shot. Thanks. |
| 04:26.33 | Kivin | np |
| 04:26.34 | Arrowmaster | what your asking is perty complex |
| 04:26.51 | Kivin | note that the bartender config screen has all the options available on it to do this |
| 04:27.29 | Arrowmaster | i think hes wanting to make an addon pack with different settings than the default |
| 04:27.51 | Kivin | perhaps |
| 04:28.29 | Atriace | Example of my intent: http://wowi.pastey.net/82949 |
| 04:29.04 | Atriace | After changing the values, I'm focused on the second to last line where it (appears) to register those settings with Bartender |
| 04:29.26 | Arrowmaster | you cant create another profile that way |
| 04:29.33 | Kivin | You're tampering with the defaults, don't do that |
| 04:30.00 | Atriace | How would you do it then? |
| 04:30.05 | Atriace | I hope there's a method. |
| 04:30.10 | Arrowmaster | like i said this is very complex |
| 04:30.28 | Atriace | Hit me with it. :) |
| 04:30.31 | Kivin | The trick is that just adjusting things in the database wont visibly alter anything on screen |
| 04:30.38 | Arrowmaster | acedb wasnt designed to do this kinda stuff |
| 04:31.05 | Arrowmaster | i would have to look through most the bt3 code to figure it out |
| 04:31.39 | Kivin | Maybe something like: Bartender3:SetProfile("SpartanUI_Default"); *copy spartan table into Bartender3.db.profile* |
| 04:32.13 | Arrowmaster | yes that would work but you only want to do that once |
| 04:32.23 | Kivin | indeed |
| 04:32.43 | Kivin | Is there an acedb method to check if a profile exists? |
| 04:32.47 | Fisker- | btw Chambrln |
| 04:32.49 | Kivin | :HasProfile() or something? |
| 04:32.49 | Fisker- | err |
| 04:32.51 | Fisker- | btw Chaud |
| 04:32.53 | Fisker- | eu or us? |
| 04:33.16 | Kivin | .GetProfile exists |
| 04:33.29 | Kivin | oh, not what i was thinking of |
| 04:34.12 | Fisker- | o hai Chaud :( |
| 04:34.14 | Atriace | It would seem I need a little more knowledge of Ace to pull this off. |
| 04:34.21 | Arrowmaster | yes you would |
| 04:34.58 | Fisker- | any us people here? |
| 04:35.08 | Fisker- | and got the ptr client |
| 04:35.38 | Chaud | lolwut |
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| 04:36.09 | Fisker- | hai Chaud |
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| 04:36.14 | Fisker- | can you login? |
| 04:36.38 | Chaud | The PTRs will be down the rest of the evening while we resolve an issue with the new configuration. |
| 04:36.38 | durcyn | us ptr servers are down atm |
| 04:36.42 | Fisker- | i know |
| 04:36.45 | Fisker- | but can you login? |
| 04:36.48 | Chaud | ... |
| 04:36.49 | durcyn | yes, auth is fine |
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| 04:36.53 | Fisker- | ok |
| 04:36.55 | Fisker- | isn't for EU |
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| 04:37.03 | Fisker- | i guess Blizzard doesn't care about european people :< |
| 04:37.09 | Chaud | Hasn't EU been messed up for some time now |
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| 04:37.15 | Kivin | Atriace: Here's a sketch of how I see you doing this: http://wowi.pastey.net/82950 |
| 04:37.22 | Fisker- | worked earlier atleast |
| 04:37.29 | Fisker- | but i'm getting incorrect account information now |
| 04:37.32 | Kivin | iew, broken link |
| 04:37.57 | Kivin | Atriace: http://wowi.pastey.net/82951 |
| 04:38.22 | Atriace | I'll check it out. |
| 04:39.51 | Kivin | http://wowi.pastey.net/82952 |
| 04:40.05 | Kivin | not exactly a deepcopy, but should do. |
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| 04:40.14 | Kivin | just need to fill in PROFILES and figure out how to check if a profile exists in AceDB |
| 04:40.17 | Cryect | Fisker, you really care to login to an empty realm list? |
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| 04:41.58 | Atriace | Kivin: As I said before, I'm not really familiar with Ace, but with the code you typed, do you really only need to fill in the PROFILES and check for pre-existence for it to work? No other changes (theoretically)? |
| 04:42.02 | Fisker- | Cryect no i care to login to the PTR |
| 04:42.28 | Kivin | Atriace: I'm not really looking at the big picture, just the first solution that comes to mind from looking at your own code snippit. |
| 04:42.34 | sacarasc | Fisker-: i'm getting the same |
| 04:42.56 | Atriace | Thanks for the direction. |
| 04:42.59 | Kivin | Atriace: I'm not familiar enough with bartender to recognize the (potentially very many) implications of doing this |
| 04:43.09 | Kivin | And I know absolutely squat about ace2 |
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| 04:43.19 | Fisker- | sacarasc eu? |
| 04:43.34 | sacarasc | yup |
| 04:44.07 | sacarasc | my char won't be copied over yet anyway, so no big deal for me |
| 04:44.14 | Fisker- | i has idea actually |
| 04:44.43 | sacarasc | i tried with all the passwords i've ever used with WoW (earlier it didn't take my new one but my previous one) |
| 04:45.41 | Diao | wtf is wrong with armory |
| 04:45.47 | Diao | it won't let me login to view guild bank stuff |
| 04:48.45 | Arrowmaster | lol im killing felboars on my alt for the hellfire felhunter poo quest and witchhunt is showing the boars casting "Tell Dog I Died" when i kill them |
| 04:49.15 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 04:49.33 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: did you find that 2000TPS WWS? :) |
| 04:49.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: yeah, WH catches all kinds of crazy quest spell triggers |
| 04:50.37 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: i know |
| 04:50.50 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: im on raid waitlist so i havent had time to check |
| 04:53.14 | NivFreak | isn't that the best time to look? ;) |
| 04:53.23 | Kivin | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General -%s+") |
| 04:53.24 | lua_bot | Kivin: General |
| 04:53.39 | Kivin | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General %-%s+") |
| 04:53.40 | lua_bot | Kivin: General - |
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| 04:54.09 | alcaras | hrm |
| 04:54.18 | alcaras | anyone know how to get raid pets visible in grid? |
| 04:54.32 | Cryect | there is a module for that isn't there? |
| 04:54.32 | Groktar-Impulse | pick grid 25 + pats |
| 04:54.36 | Groktar-Impulse | *pets |
| 04:54.36 | NivFreak | I had to add them to my layout |
| 04:54.37 | alcaras | Grid | Layout | Raid Layout | By Group 25 w/ Pats does nothing |
| 04:54.44 | alcaras | w/ Pets* |
| 04:54.49 | Groktar-Impulse | works for me |
| 04:54.51 | NivFreak | there was a checkbox on mine |
| 04:54.52 | Groktar-Impulse | tho it's buggy |
| 04:54.52 | NivFreak | I had to set |
| 04:54.56 | NivFreak | for hunter/warlock pets |
| 04:55.00 | alcaras | where Niv? |
| 04:55.05 | Groktar-Impulse | it gets really confused with people that name their pets after themselves |
| 04:55.06 | NivFreak | sec |
| 04:55.08 | NivFreak | let me fire wow up |
| 04:55.14 | alcaras | Show Pets in Part? |
| 04:55.17 | Kivin | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General %- %s+") |
| 04:55.17 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil |
| 04:55.36 | Groktar-Impulse | tends to get show whoever has the lowest hp for both the player and pet frame |
| 04:55.36 | Groktar-Impulse | :/ |
| 04:55.56 | alcaras | thankfully warlocks can't do that :p |
| 04:55.57 | Cryect | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General %- %w+") |
| 04:55.57 | lua_bot | Cryect: General - Orgrimmar |
| 04:56.03 | Cryect | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General %- (%w+)") |
| 04:56.03 | lua_bot | Cryect: Orgrimmar |
| 04:56.07 | Cryect | is what I'm guessing you want |
| 04:56.11 | Kivin | Cryect: thanks |
| 04:56.23 | Kivin | lua> string.match("GeneralOrgrimmar", "General %- %w+") |
| 04:56.23 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil |
| 04:56.24 | Cryect | Though! |
| 04:56.26 | Kivin | perfect |
| 04:56.27 | Cryect | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General %- (%.+)") |
| 04:56.27 | lua_bot | Cryect: nil |
| 04:56.31 | Cryect | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General %- (.+)") |
| 04:56.32 | lua_bot | Cryect: Orgrimmar |
| 04:56.34 | Cryect | is better |
| 04:56.43 | Kivin | why is it better? dot is slow |
| 04:56.47 | Cryect | if you want things that can have spaces between them |
| 04:56.53 | Cryect | well then do |
| 04:57.00 | Cryect | lua> string.match("General - Orgrimmar", "General %- ([%w ]+)") |
| 04:57.01 | lua_bot | Cryect: Orgrimmar |
| 04:57.08 | Cryect | since some things have spaces |
| 04:57.21 | Cryect | Not sure how its slow if they compile a fsm to process the pattern |
| 04:57.27 | Cryect | then again no idea what lua does |
| 04:57.31 | NivFreak | alcaras: so I use dynamic layout |
| 04:57.39 | Kivin | lua> string.match("General - "Elywnn Forest", "General %- ([%w ]+)") |
| 04:57.39 | lua_bot | Kivin: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'Elywnn' |
| 04:57.44 | Kivin | lua> string.match("General - Elywnn Forest", "General %- ([%w ]+)") |
| 04:57.44 | NivFreak | so it was under Layout -> Dynamic Layout -> Warlock pets |
| 04:57.45 | lua_bot | Kivin: Elywnn Forest |
| 04:57.47 | alcaras | dynamic layout? |
| 04:57.48 | NivFreak | and hunter pets |
| 04:57.52 | Kivin | lua> string.match("General - Elywnn Forest", "General %- [%w ]+") |
| 04:57.53 | lua_bot | Kivin: General - Elywnn Forest |
| 04:57.55 | NivFreak | it's another module |
| 04:58.01 | Kivin | lua> string.match("kGeneral - Elywnn Forest", "General %- [%w ]+") |
| 04:58.02 | lua_bot | Kivin: General - Elywnn Forest |
| 04:58.02 | alcaras | ah |
| 04:58.04 | Shirik | ow @ pain and hurt from lua spam |
| 04:58.12 | Cryect | with a FSM . should be just as fast as [%w ] |
| 04:58.24 | alcaras | will layoutplus also work? |
| 04:58.31 | Kivin | can i specify "Beginning" and "end" like posix regexes |
| 04:58.34 | Kivin | ^something$ |
| 04:58.34 | Cryect | yes |
| 04:58.37 | Cryect | $ and ^ |
| 04:58.39 | alcaras | or which is better: dynamic or layoutplus |
| 04:58.41 | Cryect | er ^ $ |
| 04:59.21 | Diao | uhh |
| 04:59.26 | Diao | is anyone able to get into the armory login |
| 04:59.29 | Kivin | "^General %- [%w ]+$" looks like it's the winner |
| 04:59.33 | Arrowmaster | "^General %- (.+)$" |
| 04:59.35 | Diao | everytime i login it sends me back to the "login required" page |
| 04:59.42 | Kivin | no need for a dot |
| 04:59.52 | Cryect | you want ( ) not [ ] |
| 04:59.57 | Cryect | err |
| 05:00.00 | Kivin | i don't care about what comes after general |
| 05:00.04 | Cryect | ([%w ]) |
| 05:00.07 | Kivin | i just want to make sure it matches |
| 05:00.08 | Cryect | oh! |
| 05:00.12 | Cryect | you are just trying to match |
| 05:00.16 | Cryect | k! |
| 05:00.17 | Arrowmaster | Diao: login then once it redirects you back and your not logged in, change the url form http to https |
| 05:00.36 | Diao | oh |
| 05:00.49 | Cryect | Been working a ton with these pattern matching while writing my expression compiler (and tag compiler at the moment) |
| 05:00.53 | Diao | they have a bad redirect or something? |
| 05:01.21 | Kivin | looks like Trade always equals Trade - City, no matter where you are. that's nice. |
| 05:01.27 | Kivin | same goes for LookingForGroup |
| 05:01.42 | Kivin | Any idea if GuildRecruitment gets any decoration? |
| 05:01.53 | Cryect | why not just use string.find(str, 'General -') |
| 05:02.04 | Cryect | string.find(str, 'General %-') |
| 05:02.13 | Cryect | no reason to match the rest |
| 05:02.13 | Kivin | suppose i could do that |
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| 05:02.55 | Arrowmaster | Diao: you using firefox? |
| 05:04.35 | Diao | tried in both ie and ff |
| 05:04.57 | Arrowmaster | did that work? |
| 05:05.52 | Arrowmaster | i dont know why it works for me since when i look at the cookies they arent set to only be for secure |
| 05:06.14 | Arrowmaster | maybe an issue with the servers session handling between http and https |
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| 05:08.44 | Diao | it did work Arrowmaster |
| 05:08.45 | Diao | thanks |
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| 05:18.35 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r62941 10Recount2/ (Data.lua Recount2.toc Tags.lua expression.lua): |
| 05:18.35 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 05:18.35 | CIA-9 | -Adds tag compiling/processing. Tags are expected to be in the format of '[expression]' or '[format:expression]' and can be placed anywhere in the passed string |
| 05:18.35 | CIA-9 | -:CompileTags compiles a string into a format for fast processing when a string needs to be processed multiple times |
| 05:18.38 | CIA-9 | -:ProcessCompiledTags will process the results passed from CompileTags with the current expression settings |
| 05:18.40 | CIA-9 | -:ProcessTags will go ahead process and return the resulting string of whatever was passed |
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| 05:20.33 | CIA-9 | 03kivin * r62942 10KivinSpamGuard/rules/english.lua: KivinSpamGuard: additional English filters courtesy of tbgold dot com. |
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| 05:41.54 | aestil | so, Cryect, how close to the functionality of wws will recount have? |
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| 05:59.42 | aestil | what is the main difference between auctioneer advanced basic and auctioner classic basic? |
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| 06:01.37 | JakeM | CPU usage when an auction scan completes, for one. |
| 06:02.14 | JakeM | AucAdv devours system resources for a good 20 - 30 seconds after a scan. |
| 06:03.00 | aestil | so if all i really want is to load up stored prices. |
| 06:03.22 | JakeM | I just use a slightly older version |
| 06:03.26 | aestil | and check on historical prices for various prices? |
| 06:04.50 | JakeM | The only thing I use it for is scanning so I have a rough idea of how much things go for when I'm selling. |
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| 06:10.36 | aestil | ckknight: is it possible the next parrot will have power auras/avion type module? |
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| 06:17.00 | Ellipsis | aestil: your mom has a power auras module |
| 06:17.22 | aestil | yeah, she used it on my old best friend too. |
| 06:17.35 | aestil | so i'm not that tight with either of them anymore. |
| 06:17.46 | Ellipsis | pix? |
| 06:19.12 | aestil | heh. i have pix of niether. |
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| 06:29.10 | Zhinjio | ~seen Toadkiller |
| 06:29.19 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 81d 4h 7m ago, saying: 'no it needs to swallow a bear which swallowed a man'. |
| 06:29.35 | Zhinjio | wow. |
| 06:29.52 | Zhinjio | thats a long time ago. |
| 06:32.17 | Ellipsis | aestil: what do you want parrot to have like power auras, exactly? display a texture out of sharedmedia on a trigger? |
| 06:33.31 | aestil | exactly. |
| 06:33.44 | aestil | it seems like the addon would accomidate something like that really well. |
| 06:33.52 | aestil | i may be wrong. |
| 06:34.40 | Ellipsis | sounds too, I'm guessing? |
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| 06:35.29 | aestil | yes. i think parrot can already do that. |
| 06:35.40 | aestil | sound on triggers. |
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| 06:44.27 | Antiarc | Arrgh. |
| 06:44.40 | Zhinjio | does anyone know where autobar gets its category definitions from? Like say, minipets? |
| 06:44.42 | Antiarc | How many times do I have to reply-all to forwards with snopes links before people stop sending them? |
| 06:44.47 | aestil | pirate day? |
| 06:44.48 | CIA-9 | 03isler * r62943 10Quartz/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:44.48 | CIA-9 | Quartz: |
| 06:44.48 | CIA-9 | - zhCN & zhTW update |
| 06:44.48 | CIA-9 | - Adds an Quartz button to the Feature Frame in Cosmos |
| 06:44.59 | aestil | what is snopes |
| 06:45.02 | NivFreak | doh, beimba is down |
| 06:45.05 | NivFreak | for US |
| 06:45.06 | Antiarc | http://snopes.com |
| 06:45.17 | Antiarc | An urban legend debunking site |
| 06:45.19 | aestil | adds a quartz button to the feature frame in cosmos? wtf? |
| 06:45.25 | Antiarc | USeful for those crappy forwards people send. |
| 06:45.25 | NivFreak | Antiarc: I just add those people to my blacklist |
| 06:45.27 | NivFreak | it stops the spam |
| 06:45.37 | Antiarc | NivFreak: It's my grandma. :x |
| 06:45.48 | NivFreak | grandma would be screwed then |
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| 06:45.59 | NivFreak | I blacklisted my mother |
| 06:46.01 | Fisker- | you can be an urban legend Antiarc |
| 06:46.03 | Fisker- | btw |
| 06:46.09 | Fisker- | i stabbed a girl in the head with a scissor |
| 06:46.15 | NivFreak | now she has to call me |
| 06:46.21 | NivFreak | and tell me random shit she gets forwarded |
| 06:48.12 | chiper | http://imagebin.org/14343 |
| 06:48.38 | chiper | ^^ latest project. AJAX based MP3 library program |
| 06:48.52 | chiper | made entirely in JavaScript and PHP |
| 06:50.07 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, will you stab me? |
| 06:50.13 | Ellipsis | you can do it with whatever you want |
| 06:50.20 | Thorgard | Is there still an option in Pitbull to enable/disable showing a 5-man raid as a group? |
| 06:50.25 | Ellipsis | yes Thorgard |
| 06:51.19 | Fisker- | do want |
| 06:51.26 | Fisker- | but i has to make assignment for today |
| 06:51.29 | Fisker- | or more liek yesterday |
| 06:53.22 | Zhinjio | can anyone update LibPeriodicTable ... or do you need to be approved? |
| 06:54.26 | CIA-9 | 03barfolomeu * r62944 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua FlightHUD.toc): FlightHUD: Fix typo |
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| 07:04.11 | Zhinjio | Can anyone explain the differences between LibPeriodicTable-3.0/3.1 and PeriodicTable-3.0/3.1>? |
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| 07:05.18 | Arrowmaster | you use LibPeriodicTable-3.1, nothing else to know |
| 07:05.25 | Zhinjio | k |
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| 07:18.14 | Kivin | I'm taking a heroic mech and dying on the robots. The paladin is just flash of light spamming me. Is she goofing up or am i just not mitigating enough damage |
| 07:18.37 | Ellipsis | is someone interrupting charged fist? |
| 07:18.37 | Aeyan | Could be you or her or a combination of both, hehe |
| 07:18.46 | Kivin | no fists |
| 07:18.49 | Kivin | HoJ and pummels |
| 07:18.54 | Aeyan | Are you uncrittable? |
| 07:19.01 | Kivin | yes |
| 07:19.08 | Aeyan | What's your health? |
| 07:19.10 | Kivin | i'm dying over a long period of time... my hp just dips lower and lower and lower |
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| 07:19.11 | Kivin | about 12k |
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| 07:19.34 | Ellipsis | healer's fault imo |
| 07:19.35 | Aeyan | With no other info, I'd lean pally's issue |
| 07:20.07 | Ellipsis | sounds like she's just not keeping up with the damage |
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| 07:20.31 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 07:20.59 | Kivin | i'm getting hit with ~1250 flashes every time it's off gcd |
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| 07:21.55 | Ellipsis | maybe she needs to be doing something other than just flash spam |
| 07:22.02 | Kivin | i honestly don't know |
| 07:22.04 | Ellipsis | I don't know pally healing well enough to say for sure |
| 07:22.08 | Ellipsis | it could be a gear issue, too |
| 07:22.10 | Aeyan | The only one of mine qualified to run heroics is my shadow priest, so I'm not really sure what level of heals from a pally you should be getting |
| 07:22.34 | Aeyan | But, sounds like you're fine to tank it if you've got 12k, uncrittable, and no fists are going off |
| 07:22.42 | Ellipsis | definitely |
| 07:22.52 | Kivin | i'm not uncrushable vs 73 raid boss, but i should be uncrushable vs trash, definitely |
| 07:22.55 | Ellipsis | those guys can be rough for some groups, I'm not really sure why |
| 07:23.20 | Aeyan | Now, maybe, we're off track and the dps just aren't bringing it down fast enough =P |
| 07:23.25 | Kivin | the warrior thought it might be just the robots, but i was having issues staying vertical on the centurions as well |
| 07:23.28 | Aeyan | I'd still lean healer though |
| 07:23.34 | Fisker- | I can usually easily get away with FoL in mechnaar |
| 07:23.37 | Fisker- | mechanaar* |
| 07:23.44 | Kivin | i don't think it was dps. we have a warlock, a mage, and an ms warrior. even if tehy all fail, it should die fairly speedily |
| 07:23.54 | Fisker- | only issue is on the boss and those charged fist ones |
| 07:23.55 | Ellipsis | if it was the dps' fault, they would have noticed it earlier Aeyan :P |
| 07:24.08 | Kivin | i'm threating hard (wings + cons + 8 second judges + holy shield) and they're dying before i hit 70k threat |
| 07:24.10 | Ellipsis | although it could be both...dps is a little slow and heals are a little weak, adds up |
| 07:24.24 | Fisker- | 1+-1 = 0 |
| 07:24.41 | Ellipsis | Fisker-'s mom + Fisker- = ??? |
| 07:24.52 | Kivin | Wish i knew more about paly heals, to tell |
| 07:25.01 | Fisker- | that's easy Ellipsis |
| 07:25.04 | Kivin | she's got +1300 heals. but she's only ever done one heroic in her life |
| 07:25.10 | Fisker- | Fisker-'s mom + Fisker- = my brother |
| 07:25.19 | Fisker- | HAHA PWNT |
| 07:25.29 | Ellipsis | ohshi |
| 07:25.33 | Kivin | >< |
| 07:26.44 | Aeyan | My tank friend says it's just a rough time with a pally healing |
| 07:26.55 | Aeyan | Only thing you can really do is spam some holy light for the destroyers |
| 07:27.15 | Kivin | i had to go five flashes up in my log to find a holy light, which i think was post-battle on the prev pull |
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| 07:27.24 | Kivin | so maybe that's the issue, not enough heals per second |
| 07:27.44 | Fisker- | holy paladins = gimps |
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| 07:27.53 | Fisker- | blizzard needs to buff us :( |
| 07:28.09 | Kivin | Everyone used to love paladin heals. Even me. I seem to be arcing farther and farther away from them |
| 07:28.25 | Aeyan | I want a paladin somewhere around me, I don't really care what spec |
| 07:28.25 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 07:28.31 | Aeyan | I prefer the tank, but eh |
| 07:28.40 | Kivin | Yeh, i'm the tank. and the paladin :P |
| 07:28.51 | Kivin | I'm the same way on my ele shaman. No paladin = a very bad heroic for me |
| 07:28.56 | Kivin | I end up tanking half the instance |
| 07:28.57 | Aeyan | Well, I'm a shadow priest and I can threat like a monster =( |
| 07:29.19 | Kivin | Know the feeling. I pulled Nalorakk off my tier 5 geared raid tank tonight WITH salv |
| 07:29.25 | Aeyan | Haha |
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| 07:29.37 | Kivin | And felt like a total douche for it |
| 07:30.09 | Aeyan | Well, from what I've heard, when elem shamans get (un)lucky their burst is just insane |
| 07:30.27 | Kivin | i'm in blues and greens and hitting close to 900 dps |
| 07:30.34 | Aeyan | Nice |
| 07:30.40 | Kivin | so there's a lot of threat there |
| 07:30.53 | Kivin | when the tank thinks he's safe doing a steady 600, i catch up fast |
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| 07:31.06 | Pkekyo|edu | morning, all |
| 07:31.09 | Kivin | evening |
| 07:31.10 | Aeyan | Heya |
| 07:32.14 | Kivin | Jesus christ, what a zoo |
| 07:32.25 | Kivin | We're about to leave the instance and the warlock walks right into a group of 5 and wipes us |
| 07:32.38 | Kivin | Guess he thought my thirteen gold repair bill wasn't good enough |
| 07:32.58 | Aeyan | Hah |
| 07:33.03 | Aeyan | Sorry to hear that |
| 07:33.04 | NivFreak | Kivin: 600TPS? |
| 07:33.09 | Kivin | NivFreak: yes |
| 07:33.13 | NivFreak | oh |
| 07:33.14 | NivFreak | heroic |
| 07:33.29 | NivFreak | heroics can be painful now days =/ |
| 07:33.36 | Kivin | that's all the "normalized" threat per second my raid's paladin was doing in ZA tonight |
| 07:33.45 | Kivin | and i pulled nalorakk off him |
| 07:33.56 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 07:34.01 | NivFreak | raid tanks should do more than 600TPS |
| 07:34.03 | NivFreak | :P |
| 07:34.15 | Kivin | That was an obvious wipe, never had an issue after that, though. So I dunno. |
| 07:34.24 | Kivin | Just a bad resist/lazy tank, i dunno? |
| 07:34.36 | NivFreak | probably forgot to put RF up or something |
| 07:34.38 | NivFreak | heh |
| 07:34.42 | Kivin | i've done that =/ |
| 07:34.47 | NivFreak | I have too |
| 07:34.48 | NivFreak | haha |
| 07:34.53 | Kivin | did it in heroic ub last night |
| 07:34.54 | Kivin | twice, i think |
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| 07:35.02 | NivFreak | it should really work like an aura |
| 07:35.06 | Kivin | omg, i know |
| 07:35.18 | Kivin | i need to write a small addon that tells me "You're a dumbass, turn on RF" |
| 07:35.30 | NivFreak | I use smartbuff for that |
| 07:35.31 | Kivin | or if i enter combat without it turned on "Just how dumb are you?" |
| 07:35.38 | NivFreak | but I don't tank much on the pally |
| 07:35.51 | Kivin | Neither do i. just respeced back to prot for the first time since i leveled my pali |
| 07:36.27 | Kivin | The RF thing is rather memorable because I was about to fume at the mage for threating too much. She had salv and omen, so wtf was she pulling off me. |
| 07:36.29 | Kivin | Glad I didn't open my mouth |
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| 07:38.40 | NivFreak | my prot warrior is my main, I just screw around on the pally ;) |
| 07:38.54 | Kivin | I don't even really like tanking |
| 07:38.58 | Aeyan | I was in a heroic tonight with a full group of non threat-o-meter users, hehe |
| 07:39.00 | NivFreak | I love tanking on my warrior |
| 07:39.04 | mikma | Antiarc: wasn't omen your? |
| 07:39.05 | Kivin | There's just so few tanks on my realm that it's not possible to do instances otherwise |
| 07:39.10 | Aeyan | It wasn't really a problem, it's just rare I see it anymore |
| 07:39.11 | Antiarc | I wrote Omen, yes |
| 07:39.16 | NivFreak | Kivin: low pop? |
| 07:39.22 | NivFreak | and tanks are short everywhere |
| 07:39.23 | Kivin | NivFreak: I think it shows high pop on the realm list |
| 07:39.31 | Antiarc | CC is very high pop, but it's mostly alliance-side |
| 07:39.34 | NivFreak | post-TBC server? |
| 07:39.36 | mikma | Antiarc: well. i may have some whine incoming :P i'll try updating it |
| 07:39.39 | Antiarc | It's a launch server |
| 07:39.40 | Kivin | very old server |
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| 07:39.51 | NivFreak | usually lots of tanks on servers like that |
| 07:39.58 | NivFreak | relativly |
| 07:40.00 | Kivin | they don't pug. at all. |
| 07:40.09 | NivFreak | I try to avoid it |
| 07:40.10 | Kivin | I've spent hours and hours LF Tanks for heroics and not get a single tell |
| 07:40.17 | NivFreak | I used to PUG nightly |
| 07:40.29 | NivFreak | I think I've PUGed more raids than heroics lately |
| 07:40.36 | Aeyan | I play on a PvP server so pure tanks and healers are little less common than average |
| 07:40.47 | Kivin | I know most of the hordies, except the new gen players that are just leveling to 70. Most of my pugs are okay. |
| 07:41.00 | Aeyan | DPS classes out the yin yang |
| 07:41.08 | Aeyan | Not that I'm helping the problem, heh |
| 07:41.19 | NivFreak | I'm on a pvp server too |
| 07:41.21 | Kivin | I feel like a total dumbass playing a pure dps class like my ele shaman |
| 07:41.22 | NivFreak | frostwolf |
| 07:41.41 | Kivin | I've been resto on my shaman and prot on my pali. So going to pure dps is hard for me. |
| 07:41.56 | Kivin | especially when i sit in lfg for 3 hours not getting a single tank to whisper me |
| 07:42.10 | NivFreak | I've had problems both ways |
| 07:42.14 | NivFreak | tank looking for a healer |
| 07:42.17 | Thorgard | Hmm. |
| 07:42.18 | NivFreak | healer looking for a tank |
| 07:42.22 | Thorgard | Did they nerf Lifetap? |
| 07:42.25 | NivFreak | dps looking for both ;) |
| 07:42.29 | Kivin | I can't relate to the healer thing as much because I've been a healer |
| 07:42.43 | Kivin | I cringe every time I see a "LF Tank and Healer for Heroic SL" |
| 07:42.54 | Kivin | Think to myself, good fucking luck. you'll be LFM all damn day. |
| 07:43.06 | Aeyan | Thorgard: Yeah, kinda |
| 07:43.20 | NivFreak | 3 DPS LFG |
| 07:43.21 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 07:44.06 | Kivin | think i need to get a felsteel helm crafted |
| 07:44.22 | Kivin | I'm using http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28180 |
| 07:44.40 | NivFreak | yea |
| 07:44.45 | NivFreak | get felsteel or stalwart's defender |
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| 07:44.52 | Kivin | no meta kinda bugs me |
| 07:45.03 | NivFreak | !i Helm of the Stalwart Defender |
| 07:45.11 | NivFreak | you get a meta when you get your t4 :P |
| 07:45.14 | Kivin | actually, felsteel is worse than my myrmidons |
| 07:45.20 | Aeyan | Ugliest helm ever |
| 07:45.24 | NivFreak | yes it is |
| 07:45.29 | NivFreak | but good for pre-kara |
| 07:45.35 | NivFreak | until you get an eternium greathelm, or t4 |
| 07:45.40 | Aeyan | Speaking of which |
| 07:45.44 | Kivin | wheeew... that's expensive |
| 07:45.46 | Aeyan | I desperately need a new hat |
| 07:46.00 | mikma | Antiarc: ok. here we go. latest revision of Omen, combined with (all other ace2 addons), and this error happens in every /rl |
| 07:46.01 | WoWLuaircBot | NivFreak: Name: [Helm of the Stalwart Defender]; Rarity: Epic (Purple); BoE; Plate Headdress; +47 Stamina; 1 Blue socket(s); 1 Yellow socket(s); 1 Red socket(s); +4 Strength socket bonus; Requires L70; 100 Durability; +23 ResilienceRating; +23 DefenseSkillRating. || http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=23535 || http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23535 |
| 07:46.04 | mikma | Antiarc: ..\libs\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua line 734: AceComm-2.0: AceComm-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0 |
| 07:46.15 | mikma | Antiarc: ...terface\AddOns\Omen\Libs\AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:2309: in main chunk |
| 07:46.28 | mikma | Antiarc: when i disable omen, no errors |
| 07:46.29 | Kivin | you're missing AceEvent-2.0? |
| 07:46.37 | mikma | nope, it gets loaded with Buffalo2 |
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| 07:47.01 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 07:47.04 | Antiarc | I have no idea |
| 07:47.05 | mikma | this error happens only when Omen is loaded... i can have all other addons loaded without errors, but when i enable omen that happens |
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| 07:47.44 | Antiarc | An opdep problem, maybe? Hm. |
| 07:47.52 | mikma | i had huge errors with buffalo2 too but i was able to get rid of them by changing the load order of the externals |
| 07:48.29 | Ellipsis | emebds in the wrong order? |
| 07:48.33 | Ellipsis | embeds* |
| 07:48.35 | Kivin | The fact that you had to alter your externals some way to make things load indicates you are doing something wrong |
| 07:48.40 | mikma | in buffalo2, yes. |
| 07:49.11 | CIA-9 | 03nemes * r62946 10NDragIt/ (NDragIt.lua NDragIt.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 07:49.11 | CIA-9 | NDragIt: |
| 07:49.11 | CIA-9 | - move from Ace2 to Rock |
| 07:49.11 | CIA-9 | - Add option to clamp to screen, default to off |
| 07:49.11 | CIA-9 | - Add /nfi slash command to identify frame under cursor |
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| 07:49.34 | mikma | Kivin: yeah, blame me doing something wrong = using ace2 addons |
| 07:49.38 | Ellipsis | bah, I'm lagging - meant that as an idea for what was wrong the first time |
| 07:50.15 | Xinhuan | With the release of patch 2.4 we’re adding a new event, UPDATE_INVENTORY_DURABILITY. |
| 07:50.19 | Kivin | If the addons are installed correctly, they should come with their externals embeded, and you shouldn't have to adjust anything to make them work |
| 07:50.23 | Ellipsis | old, Xinhuan :P |
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| 07:50.39 | Xinhuan | searching the last 8 hours of logs of this channel, i don't see it mentioned ;p |
| 07:50.46 | NivFreak | I saw it ;) |
| 07:50.48 | Ellipsis | ...I pasted that exact sentence |
| 07:50.50 | Ellipsis | search better, noob |
| 07:50.57 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.58 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 07:51.10 | mikma | Kivin: fyi, i know what i'm doing. i know when there's user-error or something else happening. so, shuss please |
| 07:51.33 | NivFreak | 14:10 < Dashkal> New event: UPDATE_INVENTORY_DURABILITY nifty |
| 07:51.33 | NivFreak | 15:59 < Ellipsis> With the release of patch 2.4 we’e adding a new event, UPDATE_INVENTORY_DURABILITY. |
| 07:51.44 | NivFreak | you were beat as well ;) |
| 07:51.58 | Kivin | mikma: I'll say whatever the hell I like. That's the joy of the internets. |
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| 07:52.28 | mikma | Kivin: well yeah, then you're a fucking prick and now i know it. thanks but i'll rather talk with the one who coded the addon i have errors with |
| 07:52.47 | Kivin | heh |
| 07:52.50 | CIA-9 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r62947 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0.lua: LibSharedMedia-3.0: rearranged some code so upgrades will always overwrite default data (allowing updates to it) |
| 07:52.58 | Ellipsis | hush NivFreak, the point is, Xinhuan FAILED. |
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| 07:53.50 | NivFreak | so much hostility |
| 07:54.03 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 07:54.07 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan knows I lubs him <3 |
| 07:54.25 | NivFreak | uggg |
| 07:54.28 | NivFreak | I hate writing review |
| 07:54.29 | NivFreak | s |
| 07:54.56 | mikma | ok i guess it's back to KTM then |
| 07:55.08 | Kivin | So long, and thanks for all the fish. |
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| 07:55.53 | Ellipsis | mikma: fwiw, you'd likely have no problem if you used a different meter with a threat-1.0 backend |
| 07:56.11 | Ellipsis | I hate to see a perfectly good system running KTM |
| 07:56.21 | Fisker- | ktm is awesome |
| 07:56.29 | NivFreak | it is? |
| 07:56.35 | Kivin | Let's alll forget Fisker- Just said that. |
| 07:56.41 | Ellipsis | for what, stress-testing your CPU? |
| 07:56.47 | mikma | Ellipsis: any others than assessment? |
| 07:57.00 | NivFreak | man, I dropped KTM the second I saw Omen |
| 07:57.02 | NivFreak | never went back |
| 07:57.03 | Fisker- | it's awesome for trolling |
| 07:57.04 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 07:57.04 | Ellipsis | Mikk: violation on the lightweight side, I believe recount if you want something full-featured |
| 07:57.11 | Ellipsis | er, mikma* |
| 07:57.30 | NivFreak | I'm still afraid to reinstall recount |
| 07:57.32 | Ellipsis | my tab abuse will end up getting me in big trouble someday |
| 07:57.33 | Antiarc | Violation and Recount both do threat tracking too |
| 07:57.36 | NivFreak | it was killing me before |
| 07:57.50 | Antiarc | mikma: Do you run embedded or disembedded libs? |
| 07:58.04 | Arrowmaster | hes using embedded |
| 07:58.17 | Ellipsis | personally I've started using violation over omen for my threat meter - even though it lacks some of the nice display options, it doesn't FORGET TO SHOW UP or make INVISIBLE DEAD SPOTS on my screen |
| 07:58.22 | Arrowmaster | im betting its some upgrade bug in the ace2 core libs |
| 07:58.30 | mikma | Antiarc: embed |
| 07:58.40 | Antiarc | Ellipsis: That'll be gone in 2.0, and may be gone in 1.0 if I get the time :P |
| 07:58.49 | Ellipsis | if it's not gone in 2.0 I'm going to slap you |
| 07:58.51 | Antiarc | mikma: Hrm. Can you send a copy of your framexml.log to me at cheald at gmail? |
| 07:58.51 | NivFreak | I've never had either problem |
| 07:58.52 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 07:58.56 | Paradox | ckknight: requesting option to increase scale/size of the coord frame in chinchilla! thank you <3 *nibble* |
| 07:58.57 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 07:59.01 | Antiarc | Or just pastey it |
| 07:59.02 | NivFreak | I have had an invisible deadzone |
| 07:59.05 | NivFreak | was that omen? :) |
| 07:59.09 | mikma | Antiarc: yeah, i can soon |
| 07:59.10 | Antiarc | Probably |
| 07:59.23 | Ellipsis | Paradox: something wrong with the "size" slider? |
| 07:59.24 | NivFreak | wierd |
| 07:59.58 | Paradox | oops, it appears in my excitement about the addon I missed that |
| 08:00.23 | Ellipsis | :P |
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| 08:01.28 | Ellipsis | see, Antiarc, now that I have a svn account I can finally make this threat: if you don't fix the bugs that annoy me, I will...and you don't want me in your code :P |
| 08:01.39 | Kivin | haha... |
| 08:02.03 | Antiarc | Ellipsis: By all means, please do. :P |
| 08:02.05 | Antiarc | svn blame ftw. |
| 08:02.13 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 08:02.22 | Kivin | i don't think i've had deadzones before, but i've had all sorts of minor but annnoying issues with pull out bars |
| 08:02.35 | Antiarc | The Omen 1.0 code is ugly. I don't think you're going to make it much worse :P |
| 08:02.42 | Antiarc | And yes, the pullout bars need loads of work |
| 08:02.46 | mikma | Antiarc: i'll first try to update all ace2 addons |
| 08:02.53 | Ellipsis | that's just it - if it's the slightest bit ugly, I'm likely to rewrite it entirely |
| 08:02.58 | Antiarc | Haha |
| 08:03.05 | Antiarc | A little OCD, perhaps? |
| 08:03.05 | Ellipsis | you'll wake up one morning, svn up, and go "...wait, is this the right addon?" |
| 08:03.09 | NivFreak | I hate pullout bars |
| 08:03.12 | Ellipsis | just a taaaaad |
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| 08:03.13 | Kivin | I honestly don't blame you for not fixing the little annoyances in 1.0. I'd just keep slugging away at 2.0 |
| 08:03.17 | NivFreak | I accidently pull stuff out ;) |
| 08:03.28 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Lock the Omen frame and you can't pull them out anymore |
| 08:03.35 | Antiarc | I'm going to revise the pullout thing for 2.0 anyhow |
| 08:03.40 | Kivin | a rogue in my kara raid died twice on nightbane because he accidently pulled out a bar and it got stuck to his finger :P |
| 08:03.40 | Thorgard | I accidentally pull it out in the park sometimes. |
| 08:03.42 | Antiarc | Gonna put them in somehow but I haven't decided how yet. |
| 08:03.45 | NivFreak | yea, I've never looked into stopping it :) |
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| 08:04.02 | Antiarc | So the other night, we're doing RoS |
| 08:04.03 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: clearly you didn't see the diffs of my pitbull_spark rewrite...you know why I was originally looking at that code? beats me, I don't even use the thing! |
| 08:04.08 | Antiarc | I'm a rogue, so I was interrupting Spirit Shocks |
| 08:04.21 | Antiarc | We got through P2 perfectly, and then in P3, a hunter pulled aggro and we wiped |
| 08:04.36 | Antiarc | The hunter says "Omen said I was fine!" |
| 08:04.40 | NivFreak | haha |
| 08:04.43 | Antiarc | And I noted "I like how I did my job perfectly there and I'm still blamed for us wiping" |
| 08:04.45 | Kivin | :X |
| 08:04.48 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 08:04.50 | Ellipsis | that's what you get |
| 08:04.54 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 08:05.07 | Kivin | No rest for the wicked |
| 08:05.30 | Kivin | So should I bother making tankatronics? Or just wait till I have 60 badges and buy the amazing badge helm? |
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| 08:05.47 | Antiarc | You probably want tankatronics since they're upgradable in 2.4 |
| 08:06.04 | Kivin | Upgrades mean nothing to me. I'll never make it into sunwell, ever. |
| 08:06.48 | Antiarc | So the other day, I went to the store |
| 08:07.02 | Antiarc | There was this car in the parking lot, something exotic, definitely cost six figures |
| 08:07.14 | Antiarc | The license plate read "FRSTNAZ" (First in AZ) |
| 08:07.22 | Elkano | wow... I made more file comments on wowi then forum posts ^^ |
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| 08:07.31 | Antiarc | And I couldn't help but note that this guy with bazillions of dollars made a "FRIST POST" on his license plate. |
| 08:07.34 | Paradox_ | anyone know a nice small addon that can make tooltips hover near what they're tooltipping? for example when hovering a player instead of the tooltip appearing in the bottom corner of the screen, have it appear where the mouse is? |
| 08:08.02 | Kivin | Cowtip has options for that sorta thing |
| 08:08.03 | Ellipsis | Paradox: LitheTooltipDoctor |
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| 08:08.07 | Kivin | or that |
| 08:08.23 | Ellipsis | cowtip is a bit more than a "nice small addon" but definitely worth it if you want more fancy tooltip configurability |
| 08:08.43 | NivFreak | I low cowtip |
| 08:08.45 | NivFreak | like |
| 08:09.41 | Elkano | I used to like it... |
| 08:09.47 | Paradox_ | can Prat modify tooltip in any way? |
| 08:09.53 | Kivin | nope |
| 08:09.53 | Ellipsis | no Paradox...at least I hope not |
| 08:09.58 | Paradox_ | mmm |
| 08:10.01 | Kivin | Having troubles finding easy places to get my HP and avoidance up |
| 08:10.06 | Ellipsis | who knows, last I heard they were adding a KitchenSink module |
| 08:10.15 | Aeyan | Elkano: Is LSM3 gonna have compat layers or is it a shiny new thing? |
| 08:10.29 | Paradox_ | it seems this UI creator has managed to modify the tooltip graphics by merely placing files in Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Border1.blp etc? |
| 08:10.34 | Paradox_ | am I correct in that assumption |
| 08:10.50 | Arrowmaster | Paradox_: yeah thats doable |
| 08:10.52 | Aeyan | I imagine you are |
| 08:10.53 | Ellipsis | Paradox: that would work |
| 08:11.00 | Kivin | Sounds feasable. Sounds bloody hectic, since a lot of things share the tooltip textures |
| 08:11.18 | Paradox_ | cool |
| 08:11.25 | Elkano | well, it uses almost the same API so it will be easy to upgrade addons to use it but it wont register it self in disguise as a lower version since libs shouldn't do that... (some people simply don't understand that :/ ) |
| 08:11.29 | Aeyan | It's a simple way of doing it, but yeah... you might have some positioning weirdness |
| 08:11.35 | Kivin | would make a lot moer sense to :SetBackdrop the myriad tooltips |
| 08:11.47 | Aeyan | Elkano: Ah, nifty. |
| 08:11.50 | Paradox_ | mmm... TinyTip could make tooltips appear at the mouse maybe? |
| 08:12.07 | Aeyan | It used to, 2.0 probably still can as well |
| 08:12.09 | Paradox_ | (if anyone has used it and maybe knows) |
| 08:12.24 | Kivin | Not a clue, sorry |
| 08:12.27 | Ellipsis | Elkano: any future plans for EBBs? |
| 08:12.40 | Arrowmaster | mikma: yeah this is looking like some sort of library upgrade bug in acecomm |
| 08:13.03 | Elkano | funny fact: any addon author that upgraded to LSM-2.0 didn't understand using LSM correctly since 2.0 has a design flaw... |
| 08:13.14 | Elkano | Ellipsis, lots of them, yes |
| 08:13.18 | Kivin | Ellipsis: Since I started tanking again, I've noticed something peculiar in Pitbull |
| 08:13.32 | Kivin | Every time i block an attack, my cast bar lights up with the last spell i cast |
| 08:13.39 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 08:13.44 | Ellipsis | good to know - think you can put that on jira? |
| 08:13.50 | mikma | Arrowmaster: yeah, i keep having AceComm-2.0 errors |
| 08:13.50 | Kivin | sure |
| 08:13.55 | Ellipsis | it has to do with ck's recent castbar changes, he'll want to fix that |
| 08:14.02 | Kivin | what is it, wowace.jira.com? |
| 08:14.07 | Ellipsis | jira.wowace.com |
| 08:14.10 | Kivin | heh okay |
| 08:14.29 | Paradox_ | speaking of pitbull, doesn't seem to be any way to disable the 'overheal' part of visual healing, it's a nice feature, visual healing, but when i'm being overhealed it tends to overlap on the rest of my UI |
| 08:14.38 | Kivin | It ammuses me more than bothers me. I can hit holy shield with a big pull and my cast bar will flicker "holy shield" over and over |
| 08:15.18 | Kivin | should i log it as trivial or minor? |
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| 08:15.45 | Elkano | Ellipsis, basicaly I planned on making it more modular wrt data providers so theoreticaly other addons could hook in to show their own data (eg buffs the Blizzard API doesn't propagate) |
| 08:15.51 | Ellipsis | Kivin: make it minor |
| 08:16.04 | Ellipsis | Elkano: hrm...interesting |
| 08:16.55 | Ellipsis | Paradox: I believe there's a mode where the overheal bar will stay inside the frame (overlapping your health bar with partial transparency or something...not sure) |
| 08:16.57 | Xinhuan | what is it, bugs in acecomm? |
| 08:16.59 | Xinhuan | i'm here :> |
| 08:17.14 | Elkano | this would then also allow for a module that would show buffs if you don't have them |
| 08:17.45 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: something with acecomm and aceoo |
| 08:17.52 | Xinhuan | tell me about it |
| 08:17.52 | Ellipsis | Elkano: all of which could be disabled if not needed, right? I don't want mah sexy EBBs to get much bigger...it's already a bit of a memory hog |
| 08:18.00 | Kivin | lol Xinhuan. Someone was getting an AceComm: AceEvent is required error for omen |
| 08:18.28 | Arrowmaster | im blaming aceoo |
| 08:18.42 | Arrowmaster | since i cant understand the code yet |
| 08:18.55 | Arrowmaster | and i dont want to look at it for a few hours to understand it |
| 08:19.09 | Kivin | I wrote my own OO lib that is about 45 lines of code, and I <3 it. I don't understand AceOO for a moment |
| 08:19.27 | Aeyan | I can trigger weird library issues from time to time |
| 08:19.45 | Aeyan | Sometimes, if I disable Aloft, a lot of other addons will fail to load |
| 08:19.46 | Xinhuan | so what is the issue, what causes errors? |
| 08:19.52 | Aeyan | Despite the fact that I run disembedded |
| 08:20.02 | Aeyan | Sometimes they work just fine |
| 08:20.02 | Kivin | <mikma> Antiarc: ..\libs\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua line 734: AceComm-2.0: AceComm-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0 |
| 08:20.03 | Kivin | <mikma> Antiarc: ...terface\AddOns\Omen\Libs\AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:2309: in main chunk |
| 08:20.08 | Kivin | that was the original error |
| 08:20.16 | Aeyan | I think I just need to frag my interface folder in the near future |
| 08:20.22 | Xinhuan | hmm |
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| 08:20.58 | Arrowmaster | the error is coming from the 'self:embed(target)' in aceoo's 'function Mixin.prototype:activate(oldLib, oldDeactivate)' being called from acecomm's 'self:activate(oldLib, oldDeactivate)' inside the 'local function activate(self, oldLib, oldDeactivate)' |
| 08:22.25 | Xinhuan | is there a more complete stack trace? |
| 08:22.29 | Arrowmaster | i also blame AceOO.error which is actually AceLibrary.error for sucking right now and not giving a good error |
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| 08:23.26 | mikma | now after updating *all* ace2 addons and after replacing some of the addons with libfree addons, no errors. this is with Violation atm but will test Omen too |
| 08:23.55 | Xinhuan | k mikma, turn on omen and tell me what error if any you have |
| 08:26.26 | mikma | what i saw, it was Buffalo2 combined with Omen that caused the error to happen. |
| 08:27.01 | Xinhuan | yes yes, can you reproduce that error on updated addons? |
| 08:31.24 | mikma | didn't even try with latest version of buffalo2, i just replaced it with SBF 2.8 :) |
| 08:31.37 | Xinhuan | right, so i'm wasting time? ^^ |
| 08:31.41 | Aeyan | Shiny addon, that |
| 08:33.15 | mikma | who knows are you. get Buffalo2 and test it with Omen? |
| 08:33.27 | NivFreak | mikma: do you use an updater? |
| 08:33.32 | JakeM | I'm using Buffalo2 with Omen now |
| 08:33.34 | mikma | NivFreak: nope |
| 08:33.45 | Elkano | Ellipsis, I don't think it's that much of a memory hook :( |
| 08:34.02 | JakeM | Anyone know if there's a plan to fix the Swiftmend problem in HotCandy? |
| 08:34.09 | Arrowmaster | mikma: have you updated buffalo2? if not could you tell us the revisions of the libraries in your copy of buffalo2? |
| 08:34.09 | Elkano | but yes, I intend these modules to be ace3 modules so you could disable them |
| 08:34.17 | Ellipsis | Elkano: no offense, but...well...it's my highest static memory hog other than Ace2 itself |
| 08:34.20 | NivFreak | mikma: it'll make your life easier ;) |
| 08:34.34 | NivFreak | just grab jwowupdater |
| 08:34.35 | mikma | NivFreak: svn up * <- i found that to be the best |
| 08:34.39 | NivFreak | ah |
| 08:34.44 | NivFreak | that would be an updater ;P |
| 08:34.58 | Ellipsis | I just can't get rid of it because all these other fancy shmancy bar addons are complicated and messy and basically do everything they can to overthink buff durations... |
| 08:35.08 | Arrowmaster | eww svn up * without --ignore-externals |
| 08:35.17 | Ellipsis | and all I really want is bars as a visual interface for the blizz API |
| 08:35.22 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: fail. |
| 08:35.38 | sb | Elkano: are you going to port EBB to ace3? |
| 08:36.14 | Elkano | sb: yes and no... I don't think I'll port it but recode most parts |
| 08:36.27 | Paradox_ | cowtip \o/ |
| 08:36.31 | JakeM | ^ |
| 08:36.41 | Paradox_ | it's grazing my pasture |
| 08:36.50 | sb | ah okay :) eta? when 2.4 hits? ;) |
| 08:37.02 | Kivin | lol at Cameron and his ridiculous toc notes |
| 08:37.29 | mikma | Arrowmaster: and, i just did checkout buffalo2 and will test it with my own computer |
| 08:37.44 | mikma | the error is now gone from my wifes pc and that's the most important thing there is :D |
| 08:39.38 | Arrowmaster | mikma: good |
| 08:39.42 | Elkano | sb, if 2.4 still takes a few years maybe ;) |
| 08:39.53 | Arrowmaster | mikma: we can blame the author of aceoo and acecomm for this one too! |
| 08:40.35 | Elkano | EBB3 is currently only a bunch of ideas in my mind, no code, yet. And I started recoding of ItemDB lately |
| 08:42.43 | mikma | from what it seems now, buffalo2 was outdated and had old libraries in it. i don't know completely because it already got deleted :I |
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| 08:43.59 | Paradox_ | anyone know what might be causing this weird colour blurryness on the edge of my screen in wow? |
| 08:44.28 | Kivin | not an addon, that's all i know |
| 08:44.38 | Paradox_ | I get it only in wow, wether windowed or full screen mode :E starting to annoy me, it never happened with my old graphics card |
| 08:44.48 | Kivin | weird... driver issue or something |
| 08:44.49 | Paradox_ | yeah it's not an addon |
| 08:44.58 | Paradox_ | just hoping someone had any idea how to fix it / has heard of anyone getting it before |
| 08:45.12 | Kivin | updated your drivers recently? |
| 08:45.29 | Paradox_ | using the latest ati catalyst |
| 08:45.35 | Kivin | then i just don't know |
| 08:45.37 | Paradox_ | it's an X1950 graphics card |
| 08:46.10 | Kivin | maybe try adjusting some random bars in your video settings... texture resolution, vsync, i dunno, just push a few buttons and see if it cleans up |
| 08:46.30 | Kivin | i've had some pretty weird side effects to changing settings with my x1640 |
| 08:46.34 | Kivin | 1650** |
| 08:46.35 | Paradox_ | if I minimize the game and bring it back up, the blurring sort of.. .changes, and sometimes goes away |
| 08:46.49 | Paradox_ | but always comes back if I minimize/maximize again or reload the game |
| 08:46.49 | Kivin | kill the vsync and triple buffering |
| 08:47.05 | Kivin | full screen glow effect? |
| 08:47.11 | Kivin | i just don't know |
| 08:47.58 | Paradox_ | mmm |
| 08:48.04 | Paradox_ | disabled full screen glow |
| 08:48.07 | Paradox_ | it actually might be that |
| 08:49.04 | Paradox_ | can't seem to reproduce it now |
| 08:49.13 | Paradox_ | wonder why full screen glow is causing that |
| 08:49.19 | Kivin | dunno |
| 08:49.47 | Paradox_ | incidentally seems to login servers are down now as I restart the game.. |
| 08:49.49 | Paradox_ | awesome |
| 08:49.56 | Kivin | durr |
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| 08:51.22 | Kivin | don't suppose any cenarion circlers are near an ah (alliance side) |
| 08:51.39 | Paradox_ | on what server? o_O |
| 08:51.42 | Kivin | cenarion circle |
| 08:51.45 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 08:51.50 | Ellipsis | some Paradox_ is fail? :P |
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| 08:52.05 | Ellipsis | Kivin: I can run and check, whatcha need? |
| 08:52.15 | Paradox_ | oh lol |
| 08:52.17 | Kivin | only if it's close. wondering if you've got 4 primal fires, and what their value is atm |
| 08:52.26 | Paradox_ | for some reason I thought you meant people exalted with cenarion circle |
| 08:52.30 | Paradox_ | or something |
| 08:52.36 | Kivin | hehe :) |
| 08:52.39 | Elkano | Wobin_: ping? |
| 08:52.42 | Paradox_ | been at work all night i'm a bit slow thinking |
| 08:52.54 | Kivin | we'll forgive you |
| 08:52.58 | Kivin | it'll take time, but we'll manage |
| 08:54.08 | Paradox_ | D: |
| 08:54.09 | Kivin | crafting this rocket launcher is making me poor, very quickly |
| 08:54.25 | Paradox_ | yep well, it seems full screen glow is the culprit |
| 08:54.26 | Kivin | 120 bloody adamantite |
| 08:54.45 | Paradox_ | guess I can live without it :/ |
| 08:54.53 | Kivin | that puzzles me |
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| 08:55.01 | Kivin | if ati has any forums or online tech support, might want to hail them |
| 08:55.21 | Paradox_ | urgh so annoying when pitbull decides to not show my weapon buffs at random |
| 08:55.30 | Kivin | might be something stupidly stupid in your video settings |
| 08:55.37 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: that bug actually exists? |
| 08:55.48 | Kivin | i've never noticed, i don't let pitbull do player auras |
| 08:55.53 | Paradox_ | i've had it for about a week or two now |
| 08:56.04 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: what weapon buff are you using when that happens? |
| 08:56.11 | Paradox_ | windfury |
| 08:56.24 | Ellipsis | and this is on live? |
| 08:56.40 | Paradox_ | on this occassion, windfury is already on my weapons as I login, but the buffs aren't on the aura as they were when I logged out just now.. |
| 08:56.45 | Paradox_ | and won't appear even when I re-apply windfury |
| 08:56.46 | Paradox_ | yes |
| 08:56.59 | Ellipsis | I will look into it, thanks for the info |
| 08:57.07 | Ellipsis | I tried to reproduce that before, but just couldn't make it happen |
| 08:57.07 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 08:57.20 | Ellipsis | I may have to borrow someone's shaman to get it figured out |
| 08:57.52 | Kivin | any luck with the AH or should i switch over to an alliance alt |
| 08:58.03 | Paradox_ | okay D: |
| 08:58.05 | Ellipsis | Kivin: just a sec, got disconnected and had to log back in |
| 08:58.10 | Kivin | no worries |
| 08:58.16 | Kivin | don't go out of your way if it's a prob |
| 08:58.18 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: it doesn't leave a gap where the weapon buffs would be, right? it just acts like they're not up? |
| 08:58.30 | Ellipsis | no worries Kivin :) |
| 08:58.31 | Paradox_ | no gap |
| 08:58.35 | Paradox_ | the next buff is moved along where they would be |
| 08:58.45 | Ellipsis | good, that means it's not my fault \o/ |
| 08:59.24 | Paradox_ | I think I remember an error message some days ago babble-spell or something |
| 08:59.30 | Paradox_ | might be something to do with that |
| 08:59.46 | Ellipsis | Kivin: cheapest are 27-28g buyout ea |
| 08:59.49 | Paradox_ | 'melee not found' or something, I clicked it away :< |
| 08:59.54 | Kivin | Ellipsis: 4 in stock? |
| 09:00.02 | Ellipsis | plenty more than 4, actually :P |
| 09:00.06 | Kivin | thanks |
| 09:00.07 | Ellipsis | yup yup |
| 09:00.08 | Kivin | horde is completely out |
| 09:00.15 | Kivin | i bought the last three |
| 09:00.16 | Ellipsis | poor horde |
| 09:00.19 | Ellipsis | needs moar farmers |
| 09:00.36 | Kivin | wtb a korean sweatshop to fill our auctionhouse with goodies |
| 09:00.48 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: did the stack trace come fron pitbull? I doubt it's related |
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| 09:01.12 | Paradox_ | not sure what you mean, but also I have no idea |
| 09:01.24 | Ellipsis | heh ok |
| 09:01.35 | Kivin | I don't think he's generating error()s |
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| 09:02.35 | Paradox_ | addon to show comparison tooltips between equipped items ? |
| 09:02.44 | Kivin | mirror, i think |
| 09:02.49 | Kivin | EquipCompare |
| 09:02.56 | Paradox_ | (I love how I can just ask for something and someone gives an awesome addon for it)! |
| 09:03.02 | Paradox_ | <3 wowace |
| 09:03.08 | Paradox_ | thanks D: |
| 09:03.18 | Kivin | i don't have any of the above installed and i have compare tooltips. no clue what's generating them |
| 09:03.30 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: the shift key, imo :P |
| 09:03.38 | Kivin | that's the joy of my UI. i've got so much bullcrap installed that i can do just about anything. just good luck finding it in the addons folder |
| 09:03.41 | Paradox_ | :O Ellipsis |
| 09:03.47 | Paradox_ | is that a default wow thing? |
| 09:03.49 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 09:03.55 | Paradox_ | wow I never knew D: |
| 09:04.02 | Ellipsis | it's relatively new |
| 09:04.05 | Ellipsis | a couple patches ago |
| 09:04.17 | Kivin | i don't need compare tooltips... ratingbuster basically does it for me |
| 09:05.13 | theoddone33 | hmm I'm smrt |
| 09:05.21 | theoddone33 | corpse run to get everlook flight path at level 24 |
| 09:05.26 | theoddone33 | so I can use teleport moonglade to get to org |
| 09:05.48 | Kivin | Paradox_: beats eyeball comparing, imo: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3629/rbusterxw9.jpg |
| 09:06.05 | Paradox_ | oh yeah, I use RB too |
| 09:06.15 | Paradox_ | I just like to have the comparison tooltip also |
| 09:06.36 | theoddone33 | one thing I wish ratingbuster had, although I'm sure there's another mod |
| 09:06.51 | theoddone33 | a little box that you type in stats |
| 09:07.01 | Kivin | what do you mean? |
| 09:07.03 | theoddone33 | so I don't have to remember for every level how much agi = 1% crit |
| 09:07.15 | theoddone33 | with RB I can guess |
| 09:07.16 | Kivin | you know rating buster converts agi into crit % |
| 09:07.35 | theoddone33 | if I have a piece of gear that has 14 agility on it I can kind of guess what 15 or 16 agility would give me in crit |
| 09:08.04 | theoddone33 | but a mod where I'm like "I'm a rogue, show me how I can get 1% crit" and it says "well, ___ agility or ___ rating" |
| 09:08.10 | theoddone33 | that'd be handy |
| 09:08.11 | Kivin | Alright, looks like i'm going to have to snatch up those alliance primals :( |
| 09:09.42 | Kivin | Ellipsis: You've got two pages of them =/ Hax. |
| 09:10.44 | Ellipsis | hehe |
| 09:11.02 | Kivin | and i apparently don't have enough money alliance side to buy them. |
| 09:11.03 | Kivin | ~fail |
| 09:11.27 | Ellipsis | well don't look at me...I may have parked alts, but I don't actually *play* there yet :P |
| 09:11.37 | Kivin | oh :P |
| 09:11.47 | Kivin | You don't have your warlock on CC, eh |
| 09:11.58 | Ellipsis | not yet |
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| 09:13.24 | Kivin | where the hell do you farm primal fires. shadowmoon? |
| 09:13.33 | Xinhuan | Skald |
| 09:13.43 | Kivin | where's that |
| 09:13.47 | Ellipsis | blade's edge |
| 09:13.47 | Xinhuan | BEM |
| 09:13.50 | Ellipsis | near the netherstorm bridge |
| 09:14.07 | Kivin | oh, right |
| 09:14.10 | theoddone33 | http://offload2.icculus.org/~theoddone33/files/wowcow.jpg what's with the tiny teleport moonglade icon on the bottom of my pitbull frame? |
| 09:14.39 | Ellipsis | theoddone33: cast bar icon |
| 09:15.02 | Ellipsis | you can disable it if you prefer |
| 09:15.05 | theoddone33 | the icon's just the last spell I cast theN? |
| 09:15.19 | Ellipsis | yeah, some stuff with the castbar is buggy so it can get "stuck" like that |
| 09:15.24 | theoddone33 | ahh I see |
| 09:16.12 | CIA-9 | 03scorpio0920 * r62948 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:16.12 | CIA-9 | Threat-1.0: |
| 09:16.12 | CIA-9 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 09:17.19 | theoddone33 | pretty sure bright yellow shirt is must have equipment for any tauren |
| 09:17.37 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 09:17.41 | Xinhuan | bright pink shirts for the win |
| 09:17.58 | theoddone33 | aha I got owned |
| 09:18.12 | theoddone33 | ran all the way to everlook to spirit rez, and it warped me back to the original gy |
| 09:18.16 | theoddone33 | never tried that before |
| 09:18.23 | Kivin | could've told you that was coming :P |
| 09:18.35 | theoddone33 | I figured it might not work |
| 09:19.04 | Arrowmaster | if you die in the tunnel do you get sent to the felwood gy? |
| 09:19.11 | theoddone33 | yeah :( |
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| 09:19.32 | theoddone33 | I guess in theory if I die closer to everlook it'd warp me there |
| 09:19.36 | theoddone33 | hm that's almost worth a try |
| 09:19.40 | Kivin | inviso potion? |
| 09:19.40 | theoddone33 | can you die in moonglade? |
| 09:19.50 | Arrowmaster | the tunnel is all in felwood |
| 09:19.51 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 09:19.59 | Arrowmaster | you wont be able to get sent to everlook gy |
| 09:20.01 | theoddone33 | it won't warp you out of your zone? |
| 09:20.07 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 09:20.11 | theoddone33 | doh |
| 09:20.27 | theoddone33 | people good at legal terrain exploits could do this |
| 09:20.30 | theoddone33 | sadly I am not one ofthem |
| 09:20.31 | Codayus | Used to be bugs where if you died in some bits of some zones, you'd end up at a GY in a different nearby zone. |
| 09:20.45 | Codayus | Typically near mountains, I think Ungoro had a few spots right on its edge. |
| 09:21.26 | theoddone33 | the stupid thing is that I can take four hits from one of those timbermaw before I die... naked... at level 24... in bear |
| 09:21.27 | Codayus | In theory, they were all fixed ages ago |
| 09:21.58 | Ellipsis | theoddone33: you can always rez jump |
| 09:22.03 | Ellipsis | just takes a while :x |
| 09:22.08 | Nandini | if you die and run to any other gy (where your faction is allowed to rez) then log out, when you log back in, you can spirit rez at the GY nearest to where you logged in |
| 09:22.18 | theoddone33 | yeah especailly with it warping me to felwood |
| 09:22.20 | theoddone33 | ooh |
| 09:22.27 | theoddone33 | Nandini: you = my hero |
| 09:22.32 | Ellipsis | there you go, Nandini proves king of the hax |
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| 09:22.36 | Arrowmaster | if that still works ill laugh |
| 09:23.01 | Nandini | i used that to map the locations of all GYs where horde players could spirit rez |
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| 09:23.05 | Nandini | just a month or two ago |
| 09:23.16 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r62949 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua: |
| 09:23.16 | CIA-9 | Quartz: |
| 09:23.16 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 09:23.38 | theoddone33 | I could have just flown to TB and on to org by now too :( |
| 09:23.39 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 09:23.39 | Nandini | it surprised people to see a level 1 player standing around in cenarion hold in silithus |
| 09:24.29 | theoddone33 | curses |
| 09:24.33 | theoddone33 | foiled by honor rollover |
| 09:24.37 | Nandini | i also discovered i could spirit rez at the GY near AQ gates, but if i died near there, i would move to a different GY |
| 09:25.04 | Ellipsis | random thought, what happens if you try to run through the dark portal while dead? invisible wall? |
| 09:25.18 | theoddone33 | yeah I'm pretty sure |
| 09:25.25 | theoddone33 | I think I've tried but not sure |
| 09:25.28 | Arrowmaster | Nandini: the one right outside? thats where you get sent if you die inside the AQ instances |
| 09:25.35 | Nandini | you should be able to go through if you're level 58 i think, i've been able to zone on zeppelins while dead before |
| 09:25.52 | Nandini | and i could use those orbs of translocation while dead i think |
| 09:26.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:26.29 | Nandini | let's face it, if you're a level 1 tauren trying to get to silvermoon, it's much faster to go there while dead |
| 09:26.38 | theoddone33 | I hope you were pvp flagged while in cenarion hold on a level 1 |
| 09:26.41 | Nandini | unless you have a mage or warlock friends |
| 09:26.43 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 09:26.50 | nevcairiel | can anyone connect to the EU PTR? |
| 09:26.51 | Nandini | i only play on pvp servers, so yes i was flagged :) |
| 09:26.51 | Kivin | Nandini: Does the translocator not work? |
| 09:26.55 | nevcairiel | it refuses to accept my password |
| 09:26.58 | theoddone33 | I'd laugh at people who kill a level 1 only to get owned by guards |
| 09:27.01 | nevcairiel | while it worked yesterday |
| 09:27.12 | Arrowmaster | ive done this neat trick with boats before where you run into the side of them while a ghost you can get a free ride without having to make your way upto the docks and all |
| 09:27.14 | Nandini | i think the EU PTRs are down completely (including the auth server) |
| 09:27.17 | Elkano | to much stats pushing? ;) |
| 09:27.38 | theoddone33 | I just watched some guy's 837k starfire crit video |
| 09:27.48 | Nandini | moonkins are so OP :P |
| 09:27.50 | Grum | so much fun those fucked up stats ... |
| 09:28.05 | Elkano | anyone remebers that dagger doing arcane damage? ;) |
| 09:28.13 | theoddone33 | give him a paladin and BoP and he could 3-4 shot gruul |
| 09:28.32 | Grum | nevcairiel: getting another patch, but it seemed ok to log in |
| 09:28.44 | nevcairiel | yes before the patch =P |
| 09:29.32 | Grum | kek |
| 09:29.33 | Grum | broken indeed |
| 09:29.50 | Ellipsis | you can zone through the dark portal while in ghost form |
| 09:30.05 | Ellipsis | neat ^-^ |
| 09:30.13 | Grum | even sub lvl 58? |
| 09:30.17 | Nandini | make sure you log out before spirit rezzing in outland, or it will port you back to azeroth |
| 09:30.17 | Ellipsis | I doubt it |
| 09:30.31 | Grum | lol |
| 09:30.32 | Ellipsis | I just tested on my main, too lazy to run a noob all the way down here |
| 09:30.33 | nevcairiel | you can just walk through the dark portal alive |
| 09:30.35 | theoddone33 | instead of going through all this trouble for a flight path I should have just got a port to shatt |
| 09:30.41 | nevcairiel | whats the point ? :P |
| 09:30.54 | Nandini | they were just testing |
| 09:31.08 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's always good to know these things, just in case |
| 09:31.11 | JakeM | nevcairiel: Is there an easy way to make Swiftmend drop a hot from the timer list in HotCandy? |
| 09:31.16 | nevcairiel | JakeM: no |
| 09:31.23 | JakeM | Didn't think so |
| 09:31.31 | JakeM | My only complaint with the mod |
| 09:31.40 | nevcairiel | if there was, i would've done it |
| 09:31.43 | nevcairiel | but sadly, there isnt |
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| 09:32.34 | Nandini | ooh i think i've just successfully made my first m2 model file with custom textures |
| 09:32.51 | JakeM | The only thing I could think of is setting the timer value to zero when Swiftmend is cast |
| 09:32.54 | Nandini | i'm making replacement minimap pings |
| 09:33.17 | Ellipsis | Nandini always delivers |
| 09:33.20 | Nandini | you know that optical illusion with the spinning spiral? |
| 09:33.39 | Nandini | that looks like it's infinitely growing or shrinking? i made a ping that looks like that |
| 09:33.46 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 09:33.52 | Ellipsis | does it hurt to look at? :P |
| 09:34.06 | Nandini | i'm attempting to switch it now |
| 09:34.17 | nevcairiel | JakeM: actually removing a bar is easy, there is just no easy way to accurately determine which HoT was used by the swiftmend when multiple druids are in the raid |
| 09:34.38 | Nandini | grr i guess i have to put the full path to the textures in the m2 model file, it won't look for them in the current folder |
| 09:34.55 | JakeM | huh |
| 09:34.57 | JakeM | Hadn't thought of that. |
| 09:35.06 | JakeM | I was just looking at it from just my HoT's and when I Swiftmend. |
| 09:35.21 | nevcairiel | its always the HoT with the lowest remaining time |
| 09:35.33 | JakeM | Doesn't matter who cast it? |
| 09:35.39 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 09:35.53 | nevcairiel | And the API only allows me to get the remaining time of my own HoTs |
| 09:35.58 | Nandini | you can SM a rejuv or regrowth cast by other druids |
| 09:36.00 | nevcairiel | not HoTs cast by other players |
| 09:36.30 | Grum | Nandini: how are you making m2 files? :D |
| 09:36.31 | nevcairiel | no swiftmend support is better then inaccurate swiftmend support .. at least thats how i roll |
| 09:36.38 | JakeM | I agree |
| 09:36.54 | theoddone33 | Nandini: no longer works :( |
| 09:36.55 | JakeM | It's still the HoT timer of choice for myself and most of my druid friends. |
| 09:36.57 | theoddone33 | logging out and back in, that is |
| 09:36.58 | Nandini | Grum: I'm stealing blizzard's m2 files and just changing the texture references within them to textures of my own design |
| 09:37.07 | Grum | aaah :) |
| 09:37.23 | Grum | isnt model replacement against the CoC? (or at least .. well .. parts) |
| 09:37.32 | Nandini | not at all, they're interface models |
| 09:37.38 | Paradox_ | it's against the LAW!!!!1111111111111111111 |
| 09:37.48 | Nandini | plus, i'm not replacing the models, i'm creating new ones for use by an addon |
| 09:37.55 | Paradox_ | sorry ;p |
| 09:37.57 | nevcairiel | thats another thing |
| 09:38.15 | theoddone33 | so I spent 2 spirit rezzes and 40 minutes trying to get to everlook |
| 09:38.24 | theoddone33 | now I'm gonna go to org and get a port to shatt, hehe |
| 09:38.31 | Grum | i've always pondered making a 'lightbeam model' for those herbs/ores =D |
| 09:38.41 | Grum | so you can see them from FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR away |
| 09:38.41 | nevcairiel | you could just ask some 70 to kill everything in WS for you ..^^ |
| 09:39.06 | Nandini | that would be a violation, unfortunately |
| 09:39.06 | Ellipsis | Grum: but if you do that you'll get arrested! |
| 09:39.23 | Grum | pfew, was almost scared i would be raeped! |
| 09:39.27 | theoddone33 | they already have a lightbeem model |
| 09:39.35 | Ellipsis | well duh, arrested -> jail -> raep |
| 09:39.42 | Grum | ohnoes! chaineffect |
| 09:40.00 | theoddone33 | knowing nothing about model changing I'd say it's probably pretty easy to sub sparkle for lightbeam |
| 09:40.20 | Nandini | yes you can swap particle effects in and out of a m2 file |
| 09:40.24 | Grum | sparkle isnt always there and its not a model i think |
| 09:40.36 | Nandini | but it would be bad and wrong to do it to any file not under the Interface folder |
| 09:40.52 | theoddone33 | depends on what you use it for |
| 09:40.55 | Grum | Nandini: you hexediting the crap? |
| 09:41.02 | Kivin | there's no way to specify case-insensitivity in string.find or .match, right? |
| 09:41.09 | Grum | theoddone33: give playermodels a 'beam' .. easy arenas! |
| 09:41.25 | Ellipsis | Kivin: upper or lower it first? |
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| 09:41.32 | Kivin | Ellipsis: well, yeah... |
| 09:41.51 | nevcairiel | but? :P |
| 09:44.00 | theoddone33 | you can lower it then apply the index to the original string right? |
| 09:44.20 | theoddone33 | lua> "test test test"[4] |
| 09:44.21 | lua_bot | theoddone33: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"test test test"' |
| 09:44.25 | theoddone33 | I lose :( |
| 09:44.39 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 09:44.44 | nevcairiel | whats that supposed to do? |
| 09:45.00 | theoddone33 | didn't remember if you could index strings like that in lua |
| 09:45.07 | Maldivia | lua> ("test test").byte(4) -- ? |
| 09:45.07 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 52 |
| 09:45.08 | nevcairiel | nah you cant |
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| 09:45.21 | Kivin | lua> ("test test"):sub(4) |
| 09:45.22 | lua_bot | Kivin: t test |
| 09:45.27 | theoddone33 | yeah sub |
| 09:45.29 | Kivin | lua> ("test test"):sub(4,1) |
| 09:45.29 | nevcairiel | lua> ("test test test"):sub(4,1) |
| 09:45.29 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: No output |
| 09:45.29 | lua_bot | Kivin: No output |
| 09:45.34 | nevcairiel | doh |
| 09:45.40 | Maldivia | lua> ("test test").sub(4,4) |
| 09:45.41 | lua_bot | Maldivia: No output |
| 09:45.44 | Maldivia | lua> ("test test").sub(4,5) |
| 09:45.44 | lua_bot | Maldivia: No output |
| 09:45.53 | Kivin | lua_bot: fail |
| 09:45.54 | Maldivia | I fail |
| 09:45.57 | Paradox_ | does a texture have to be defined in shared media in order to be used in addons like pitbull, there's no way to write the path to it? |
| 09:46.01 | theoddone33 | ("test test").sub (1,4) |
| 09:46.04 | theoddone33 | er |
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| 09:46.15 | theoddone33 | lua> ("test test").sub (1,4) |
| 09:46.15 | lua_bot | theoddone33: No output |
| 09:46.16 | Nandini | Paradox_ : yes |
| 09:46.17 | Kivin | need : instead of . |
| 09:46.19 | nevcairiel | lua> ("test test"):sub(4,5) |
| 09:46.19 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: t |
| 09:46.19 | Grum | lua> (("test test test"):split(" "))[1] |
| 09:46.19 | lua_bot | Grum: nil |
| 09:46.22 | Grum | boooo |
| 09:46.28 | Paradox_ | no other way absolutely must install sharedmedia? |
| 09:46.46 | Maldivia | doh... had a dot not a colon, heh :9 |
| 09:46.55 | Nandini | sharedmedia is a dependency of pitbull, so you have it already |
| 09:47.03 | Nandini | well libsharedmedia is |
| 09:47.14 | Nandini | but yes you have to add your own textures through LSM |
| 09:47.22 | Kivin | it takes all of ten seconds to write a custom sharedmedia addon that implements any custom textures you may have |
| 09:47.28 | Kivin | I have a few of them for fonts and texs |
| 09:47.53 | Nandini | there's easy instructions to follow on how to make your own MyMedia addon |
| 09:47.57 | Paradox_ | PitBull\libs\LibSharedMedia-2.0\MyMedia files\<textures here> will work? |
| 09:47.58 | Orionshock | lua> {(("test test test"):split(" "))}[1] |
| 09:47.58 | lua_bot | Orionshock: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
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| 09:48.12 | Kivin | Paradox_: You have to key the textures into the sharedmedia code |
| 09:48.12 | Elkano | Paradox_, it does have to be registered with LibSharedMedia, but no need to do it in SharedMedia, can be done in any addon |
| 09:48.34 | Orionshock | lua> {("test test test"):split(" ")}[1] |
| 09:48.35 | lua_bot | Orionshock: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
| 09:48.41 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 09:49.05 | Paradox_ | Elkano: yeah I know what you mean i've done it once with ... memory.. failing.. that casting bar addon.. anyway |
| 09:49.07 | Paradox_ | thanks i'll figure it out |
| 09:49.26 | Elkano | lua> {(("test test test"):split(" "))}[1] |
| 09:49.26 | lua_bot | Elkano: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
| 09:49.33 | Elkano | lua> return {(("test test test"):split(" "))}[1] |
| 09:49.33 | lua_bot | Elkano: luabot:1: '<eof>' expected near '[' |
| 09:49.34 | Arrowmaster | Paradox_: get SharedMedia-2.0 but delete the SharedMedia-2.0 lua file and leave the MyMedia one |
| 09:49.46 | Elkano | lua> return ({(("test test test"):split(" "))})[1] |
| 09:49.46 | lua_bot | Elkano: No output |
| 09:49.59 | Nandini | actually, i'd say make your own addon folder for MyMedia |
| 09:50.09 | Paradox_ | I don't understand :E |
| 09:50.09 | nevcairiel | lua> ("test test test"):split(" ") |
| 09:50.09 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: , |
| 09:50.34 | Thrae | Orionshock: Lua isn't THAT smart. Anything inside a { } is part of a table. You could try ("test test test"):split(" ")[1] and see if it'll parse that correctly, but I'd be surprised. |
| 09:50.37 | Arrowmaster | lua> (" "):split("test test test") |
| 09:50.38 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: test, test, test |
| 09:50.41 | Nandini | otherwise anytime some fonthead or texturehead adds something new to sharedmedia-2.0, you will lose all your changes if you use an updater program that deletes files |
| 09:50.57 | Arrowmaster | you guys fail at string.split |
| 09:51.00 | nevcairiel | lua> (" "):split("test test test")[1] |
| 09:51.00 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nil |
| 09:51.09 | nevcairiel | thats because string.split isnt even base lua |
| 09:51.13 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 09:51.13 | nevcairiel | screw it :P |
| 09:51.18 | Arrowmaster | bliz added it and fucked it up |
| 09:51.30 | Thrae | ((" "):split(" test test test"))[1] |
| 09:51.34 | Thrae | lua> ((" "):split(" test test test"))[1] |
| 09:51.35 | lua_bot | Thrae: nil |
| 09:51.47 | Maldivia | lua> select(3, (" "):split("hello world there")) |
| 09:51.47 | lua_bot | Maldivia: there |
| 09:51.51 | Thrae | lua> tostring((" "):split(" test test test")) |
| 09:51.51 | lua_bot | Thrae: No output |
| 09:52.16 | JakeM | That looks like some horrible attempt at Python's string slicing. |
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| 09:52.19 | Arrowmaster | Maldivia wins |
| 09:52.19 | Thrae | Oh, wait |
| 09:52.21 | Nandini | poor lua_bot, his head must be spinning right now |
| 09:52.34 | Thrae | lua> { (" "):split(" test test test") } |
| 09:52.35 | lua_bot | Thrae: table: 0x63e7c0 |
| 09:52.40 | Thrae | lua> { (" "):split(" test test test") }[1] |
| 09:52.41 | lua_bot | Thrae: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
| 09:52.46 | Thrae | Yeah, I didn't think so |
| 09:53.05 | nevcairiel | lua> ({ (" "):split(" test test test") })[1] |
| 09:53.05 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: No output |
| 09:53.09 | nevcairiel | hrm =P |
| 09:53.25 | nevcairiel | lua> tmp = { (" "):split(" test test test") }; return tmp[1] |
| 09:53.25 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: No output |
| 09:53.30 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 09:53.36 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:53.37 | Xinhuan | what are you doing :o |
| 09:53.38 | Maldivia | lua> tmp = { (" "):split(" test test test") }; return tmp[2] |
| 09:53.39 | lua_bot | Maldivia: test |
| 09:53.42 | Arrowmaster | stop putting the damn extra space in |
| 09:53.48 | Maldivia | no output = nothing before the first space :) |
| 09:53.52 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 09:53.54 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 09:53.54 | Grum | lua> ((" "):split("test test test"))[1] |
| 09:53.54 | lua_bot | Grum: nil |
| 09:54.22 | CIA-9 | 03whyv * r62950 10Postal/Locales/zhTW.lua: Postal: -update zhTW |
| 09:54.22 | Xinhuan | lua> {(" "):split("test test test")} |
| 09:54.23 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: table: 0x62d910 |
| 09:54.25 | Maldivia | Grum: split doesn't return a table, it has multiple return values instead |
| 09:54.45 | Grum | lua> (" "):split("test test test") |
| 09:54.45 | lua_bot | Grum: test, test, test |
| 09:55.08 | Xinhuan | lua> print({(" "):split("test test test")}) |
| 09:55.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: table: 0x62d8e0 |
| 09:55.17 | clad|office | pp(_G) |
| 09:55.22 | clad|office | lua> pp(_G) |
| 09:55.23 | lua_bot | clad|office: { ["tostring"] = function: 0x629d80, ["os"] = { ["date"] = function: 0x62d760, ["difftime"] = function: 0x62d7c0, ["time"] = function: 0x62a6d0, ["clock"] = function: 0x62d700 } (#2), ["getfenv"] = function: 0x629910, ["pairs"] = function: 0x6290e0, ["assert"] = function: 0x6297f0, ["tonumber"] = fu... (result truncated) |
| 09:55.40 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {(" "):split("test test test")} for k, v in pairs(t) do print(k..v) end |
| 09:55.41 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1test, 2test, 3test |
| 09:55.44 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 09:56.01 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 09:56.02 | clad|office | lol what? |
| 09:56.05 | nevcairiel | its a int indexed table |
| 09:56.05 | Xinhuan | seems to work fine |
| 09:56.17 | Arrowmaster | lua> for k, v in (" "):split("test test test") do print(k..v) end |
| 09:56.18 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: attempt to call a string value |
| 09:56.37 | Orionshock | it's the {}[1] that it has problems iwth, ie bad syntax |
| 09:56.48 | Arrowmaster | lua> for k, v in pairs((" "):split("test test test")) do print(k..v) end |
| 09:56.48 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got string) |
| 09:56.58 | nevcairiel | it doesnt work like that Arrowmaster =P |
| 09:57.05 | Arrowmaster | i can make it work |
| 09:57.07 | clad|office | why do you guys keep giving pairs vararg |
| 09:57.10 | clad|office | this is really simple |
| 09:57.19 | Xinhuan | lua> print( {[1] = "abc"}[1] ) |
| 09:57.20 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: ')' expected near '[' |
| 09:57.30 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.33 | Xinhuan | yeah you can't do that |
| 09:57.46 | Maldivia | lua> print( ({[1] = "abc"})[1] ) |
| 09:57.46 | lua_bot | Maldivia: abc |
| 09:58.04 | Xinhuan | gotta surround the table constructor with a () lol! |
| 09:58.04 | Orionshock | Maldivia: found it |
| 09:58.20 | clad|office | yes, in order to get the object |
| 09:58.22 | nevcairiel | thats not too suprising |
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| 09:59.09 | Maldivia | lua just like "Str":lower() vs ("Str"):lower() |
| 10:00.06 | Maldivia | hmm... can stop writing lua infront of all lines now... |
| 10:02.07 | Xinhuan | lua> bit.bor(1,2, 4) |
| 10:02.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 7 |
| 10:02.53 | Kalroth | lua> 1+2+4 |
| 10:02.53 | lua_bot | Kalroth: 7 |
| 10:02.58 | Kalroth | hooray! |
| 10:04.41 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r62951 10Routes/Routes.toc: Routes: Add Gatherer to ## OptionalDeps. How did we miss this one? |
| 10:05.32 | Kalroth | !points 1511 |
| 10:05.32 | Xinhuan | 1511 arena points require 0(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 10:05.36 | Kalroth | ^ Xinhuan |
| 10:06.13 | Kivin | no points 4 u |
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| 10:06.35 | Kalroth | I just need INF rating for 1511 points! |
| 10:06.57 | Thrae | !ap 1511 |
| 10:06.58 | WoWLuaircBot | Thrae: Arena points from a rating of 1511 is, 2v2: 270, 3v3: 313, 5v5: 356 |
| 10:07.05 | Thrae | !ar 1511 |
| 10:07.06 | WoWLuaircBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 1511 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 3901 |
| 10:07.33 | Thrae | Even those are my own triggers, I get them confused |
| 10:07.41 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:07.49 | Kalroth | !points 1510 |
| 10:07.49 | Xinhuan | 1510 arena points require 3354(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 10:08.00 | Kalroth | !ar 1510 |
| 10:08.00 | WoWLuaircBot | Kalroth: Arena rating from 1510 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 3518 |
| 10:08.07 | Kalroth | You two don't agree! |
| 10:08.18 | Thrae | !help ar |
| 10:08.18 | WoWLuaircBot | !ar <points> -- Convert Arena points to rating, for all sizes. (Updated as of 2.3.x) |
| 10:08.26 | Groktar-Impulse | http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9700/wowscrnshot022608005226cr5.jpg |
| 10:08.27 | NivFreak | man |
| 10:08.28 | Kalroth | Aha, so Xinhuan is just a slacker. |
| 10:08.30 | Groktar-Impulse | i find this picture amusing |
| 10:08.31 | Thrae | His might be updated for 2.4 |
| 10:08.32 | NivFreak | I can't focus to get my work done |
| 10:08.41 | NivFreak | I wonder if i'm vitamin deprived |
| 10:08.43 | Thrae | Xinhuan is usually good with keeping up with the numbers |
| 10:08.51 | Thrae | Anyway, INF means it's not valid. I just use 0. |
| 10:09.01 | Xinhuan | go do !rating 3354 then |
| 10:09.06 | Xinhuan | and !ap 3354 |
| 10:09.10 | Kalroth | !rating 3354 |
| 10:09.10 | Xinhuan | 3354 rating gives 1508(5s), 1327(3s) and 1146(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 10:09.18 | Kalroth | even worse! |
| 10:09.23 | Xinhuan | see what the other one says! |
| 10:09.35 | Kalroth | !ap 3354 |
| 10:09.36 | WoWLuaircBot | Kalroth: Arena points from a rating of 3354 is, 2v2: 1146, 3v3: 1327, 5v5: 1508 |
| 10:09.37 | CIA-9 | 03whyv * r62952 10Postal/Locales/zhTW.lua: Postal: -zhTW fixed! sorry! |
| 10:09.51 | Kalroth | Identical? :p |
| 10:09.53 | Thrae | Oh my -- totally different! |
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| 10:10.21 | Xinhuan | !ar 3518 |
| 10:10.22 | WoWLuaircBot | Xinhuan: Points given is above or below the threshold for conversion (all 0s). Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points (!ap)? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 10:10.25 | Thrae | Counting my output being reversed in order. |
| 10:10.26 | Xinhuan | !ap 3518 |
| 10:10.27 | WoWLuaircBot | Xinhuan: Arena points from a rating of 3518 is, 2v2: 1147, 3v3: 1328, 5v5: 1510 |
| 10:10.40 | Xinhuan | probably some freaky shit ;d |
| 10:11.09 | Thrae | Kivin: Check it with Blizz's calculator, that's the real authority |
| 10:11.31 | Kivin | whowhat? |
| 10:12.00 | Thrae | http://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml |
| 10:12.37 | Kalroth | it doesn't do points to rating? |
| 10:13.03 | Thrae | Kalroth: Uh, there are THREE calculators on that link... |
| 10:13.07 | Thrae | Points, Rating, Time |
| 10:13.17 | Kalroth | yes, check the ratings one |
| 10:13.19 | Kalroth | it's for items |
| 10:14.14 | Thrae | Kalroth: Enter in the points desired for "item cost", then 0 for "have arena points" and you get the same effect |
| 10:14.27 | Kalroth | Oh, true :P |
| 10:14.40 | Thrae | Normally people think of "I need for points..." in terms of how long until they get a certain item or set of items, hence why the calculator is designed as such |
| 10:14.53 | Thrae | I can't see any other way you'd think of points, really |
| 10:15.33 | Xinhuan | i see, mirc's $log() rounds 5.0902657635831e-07 down to 0.000001 |
| 10:15.40 | Xinhuan | hence the error lol! |
| 10:15.44 | Thrae | I've been up for 20 hours and I need to explain this >.> |
| 10:16.07 | Paradox_ | anyone know how to change the direction the bar fills in pitbull, for the Focus casting bar? |
| 10:16.07 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: So it was YOUR shoddy code! |
| 10:16.20 | Ellipsis | it was his shoddy choice of platforms for implementation |
| 10:16.20 | Xinhuan | meh, it'll only error on 1510 points ;p |
| 10:16.25 | Paradox_ | seems to fill vertically rather than horizontally and I can't see any way to change it |
| 10:16.37 | Xinhuan | i could technically write an external .dll to compute this |
| 10:16.39 | Xinhuan | but its too much trouble |
| 10:16.45 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: set its side to center instead of left/right |
| 10:17.01 | Kalroth | How will I know what rating I got when I get 1510 points?! |
| 10:17.04 | Paradox_ | ahh I see |
| 10:17.16 | Thrae | Xinhuan: You could just use my Lua bot ;) |
| 10:17.22 | Thrae | It's OSS |
| 10:17.29 | Xinhuan | i don't, i just use my ingame version |
| 10:17.37 | Xinhuan | which runs on lua! |
| 10:17.47 | Thrae | So why does your bot run on Mirc? |
| 10:17.54 | Xinhuan | because i'm using mirc |
| 10:18.20 | Xinhuan | its just a standard on 1:TEXT:!rating*:*:{ |
| 10:18.23 | Thrae | *insert nasty words about Mirc here* |
| 10:18.34 | Paradox_ | is is possible to texture elements of pitbull individually at all? |
| 10:19.22 | Xinhuan | mirc uses single precision floats ~_~ |
| 10:19.32 | Xinhuan | not even that |
| 10:20.07 | Xinhuan | 0.000834/1639.28 == 0.000001 lol |
| 10:20.31 | Grum | kek |
| 10:20.32 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: you mean texture health bar different from power bar? no |
| 10:21.00 | Paradox_ | because, I was looking at this.. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Dauk/UI/Hal_v8_1280x1024.jpg this guy seems to have done it? |
| 10:21.22 | Paradox_ | also changed the border too which I can't seem to find options for |
| 10:21.24 | Ellipsis | those are the same textures |
| 10:21.34 | Ellipsis | border is under Other |
| 10:21.54 | Paradox_ | is it reversed or something then? |
| 10:22.04 | Paradox_ | because the lines on the health bar point one way, and another on the power bar |
| 10:22.13 | Paradox_ | are angled one way, rather |
| 10:22.21 | Ellipsis | um, I dunno |
| 10:22.25 | Elkano | ok, censorship sucks... but still fun to watch ^^ http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=42323 |
| 10:22.42 | Ellipsis | either way - if his is using two different textures it's because he hacked it to do so; he does that |
| 10:22.48 | Ellipsis | it's not an option in default pitbull |
| 10:22.50 | Paradox_ | ah |
| 10:23.22 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: u on BR - US? |
| 10:23.30 | Paradox_ | border texture is in Other.. where? |
| 10:23.37 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: just go to Other |
| 10:23.43 | Ellipsis | it's not a submenu of it |
| 10:23.50 | Xinhuan | yes Orionshock |
| 10:24.11 | Orionshock | your in my Battle group |
| 10:24.12 | Paradox_ | I don't have an Other |
| 10:24.16 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r124 10/trunk/TinyTipModules: TinyTipModules: Removed file/folder. TinyTipModules will merge with TinyTip. TinyTipOptions will return when I finish it as an external, optional module. |
| 10:24.21 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62953 10TinyTipModules/: |
| 10:24.21 | CIA-9 | TinyTipModules: Removed file/folder. TinyTipModules merges into TinyTip. All |
| 10:24.21 | CIA-9 | "big" modules, like TinyTipOptions, will be external to TinyTip. All "small" |
| 10:24.21 | CIA-9 | modules will be in TinyTip. All modules, big or small, can work standalone. |
| 10:24.37 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 10:24.37 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: yes you do, Auras is under Other |
| 10:24.52 | Paradox_ | global settings > other? |
| 10:24.57 | Ellipsis | no |
| 10:24.59 | Ellipsis | all units -> other |
| 10:25.02 | Ellipsis | or per-frame if you like |
| 10:25.41 | Paradox_ | I don't want to change the aura border |
| 10:25.54 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: h/a ? |
| 10:25.58 | Paradox_ | like in his screenshot the border of the whole frame, or is that another hack? |
| 10:26.42 | Xinhuan | a |
| 10:27.19 | Ellipsis | Paradox_...you're not listening |
| 10:27.27 | Orionshock | humm... i wonder if i have any HK's off u :D |
| 10:27.31 | Ellipsis | All Units -> Other, Border dropdown |
| 10:27.35 | Xinhuan | unlikely |
| 10:27.40 | Xinhuan | i haven't entered a BG for months |
| 10:27.42 | Ellipsis | it's a sharedmedia-compatible list of borders to apply to the ENTIRE UNIT FRAME |
| 10:27.50 | Ellipsis | it has nothing to do with auras |
| 10:27.54 | Paradox_ | I don't have all units > other > border |
| 10:27.56 | Xinhuan | and if you've seen me, you would easily recognize me |
| 10:28.42 | Keias | I've seen you in Booty Bay Xinhuan :D |
| 10:29.03 | Diao | i see xinhuan in random places |
| 10:29.04 | Diao | lol |
| 10:29.04 | Keias | and as usual BR dies |
| 10:29.08 | Diao | yep :( |
| 10:29.50 | Keias | Orionshock, what realm are you on? |
| 10:30.07 | Orionshock | !c us nagrand Atradies |
| 10:30.10 | WoWLuaircBot | Orionshock: Atradies, Level 70 Tauren Druid (1/49/11). 10294 HP; 5360 Mana; 112 mana regen; 5669 Armour; 722 AP; 129.700 Melee DPS; 15.34% melee crit; 55 melee hit; 120 defense; 28.56% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 283 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cnnek ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38xdjj ][ Updated: Tue Feb 26 05:39:39 2008 EST ]] |
| 10:30.22 | Diao | i don't see nagrand hordeo ften |
| 10:30.24 | Diao | often* |
| 10:30.25 | Orionshock | meh, i respeced resto today |
| 10:31.29 | Keias | Yeah, I rarely see anyone from Nagrand :( |
| 10:32.00 | Orionshock | we suck at pvp :\ |
| 10:32.04 | Diao | lol |
| 10:32.19 | Orionshock | just had a BR team own us like nothing 2k/0 |
| 10:32.31 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r62954 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: |
| 10:32.31 | CIA-9 | FuBar_FactionsFu |
| 10:32.31 | CIA-9 | - some small performance tweaks |
| 10:32.31 | CIA-9 | - shift-click on the FuBar plugin will now post the watched faction to the chat editbox |
| 10:32.34 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r62955 10PitBull/Aura/Options.lua: PitBull_Aura: minor options fix. |
| 10:32.59 | syeren | What did you break now Ellipsis? |
| 10:33.22 | Ellipsis | I didn't break anything |
| 10:33.33 | Ellipsis | it was ck who forgot to remove a line |
| 10:33.39 | Ellipsis | I'm simply correcting that mistake :) |
| 10:35.16 | Ellipsis | I still have to figure out why buff spacing is going crazy, though...so don't worry, there's always something broken that is my fault |
| 10:35.19 | Xinhuan | i don't think its difficult to recognize me ;p |
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| 10:36.38 | Diao | yeah your character isn't exactly generic |
| 10:36.39 | Diao | :P |
| 10:37.59 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: pitbull aura bug -> http://i31.tinypic.com/b8tfro.jpg :) |
| 10:38.35 | [SW]Dodge | dont know if allready fixed, found it xesterday |
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| 10:47.24 | Nandini | Cryect: ping |
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| 10:48.59 | Nandini | oh well was worth a try :) |
| 10:49.01 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 10:49.15 | Orionshock | what do u do when you come accross a warrior with warglaves in pvp |
| 10:49.27 | nevcairiel | die |
| 10:49.27 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.28 | Nandini | run? hide? |
| 10:49.38 | NivFreak | or pray for ebay |
| 10:50.29 | Nandini | grr i seem to be stuck with a 15-character limit for texture names within my m2 files, this is impossible :( |
| 10:50.53 | Nandini | wtb relative paths within m2 files |
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| 10:56.41 | Orionshock | oh wow, when BT guilds have nothing better to do before server reset |
| 10:56.45 | Orionshock | make bg's cry |
| 10:58.25 | CIA-9 | 03whyv * r62956 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-zhTW.lua: ag_UnitFrames: update zhTW |
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| 10:59.54 | HIghoS | !points 666 |
| 10:59.54 | Xinhuan | 666 arena points require 1739(5s), 1798(3s) and 1875(2s) team rating. |
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| 11:09.47 | CIA-9 | 03whyv * r62957 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-zhTW.lua: ag_UnitFrames: zhTW fix |
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| 11:10.29 | baer_ | moin. |
| 11:13.38 | Grum | Nandini: where does it take the textures from? |
| 11:14.58 | Nandini | i was able to overcome the 15-character limit by hex editing, yay |
| 11:15.38 | Nandini | the m2 file has to have the absolute path to the textures in it |
| 11:16.09 | Nandini | and Interface\Addons\Chinchilla\Ping is too long a path to fit in the space i had |
| 11:16.10 | Nandini | so this won't be able to added to Chinchilla |
| 11:17.10 | Nandini | oh wait maybe it can, i might have more space than i realized |
| 11:17.23 | Nandini | my blending mode seems to be wrong for the textures tho |
| 11:17.35 | Nandini | but its quite awesome even like it is |
| 11:17.37 | Xinhuan | what Nandini, there is a "path too long"? |
| 11:18.00 | Nandini | no, but i'm hex editing this file in order to replace some textures with my own |
| 11:18.06 | Xinhuan | in the mpqs? |
| 11:18.18 | Nandini | no, my own for use in an addon |
| 11:18.30 | Nandini | no tou violations for me, tyvm :) |
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| 11:18.39 | Elkano | \o/ passed my verification course with 2.7 |
| 11:19.24 | Nandini | there are some 0x00's at the end of where i have the file name, so i may have space for a longer path |
| 11:19.29 | Confusion` | Anyone know where I can get aguf3 with branches :( |
| 11:20.01 | Nandini | cryect's m2 editing tool seems to have imposed an unneeded limitation on itself |
| 11:20.34 | Nandini | but it was meant for hacking, not for editing models for legitimate use, so that may be why |
| 11:21.04 | Nandini | i think it wants to force you to put textures in the root of the mpq archive |
| 11:21.22 | Nandini | whereas i have models and textures that are part of an addon |
| 11:21.44 | Nandini | and don't involve the mpq's at all |
| 11:25.33 | Nandini | this is unbelievably fun :) but it's very hard to make something cool looking in as tiny a space as i have for the minimap ping |
| 11:25.49 | Nandini | if i scale the minimap up to 400% it looks awesome tho |
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| 11:26.39 | Xinhuan | wait, you are making m2 files for use in an addon? |
| 11:26.49 | Nandini | yup |
| 11:27.08 | Nandini | to replace the player arrow, rotating edge arrows, and minimap ping |
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| 11:28.16 | Nandini | there are special methods on the Minimap object to set the player and edge arrows, but the ping is just a regular "model" type frame so i can change its model directly |
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| 11:29.39 | Nandini | i've been replacing it with various ground-based spell effect models too, but their animations don't match the fade out time of the ping, so they get out of sync |
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| 11:29.44 | elusif | is there a way to find out who and alt characters main is? |
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| 11:29.54 | Nandini | ask him? |
| 11:29.56 | Thorgard | elusif, yeah, ask 'em |
| 11:30.04 | elusif | other than that? |
| 11:30.07 | Thorgard | Nope. |
| 11:30.10 | elusif | :( |
| 11:30.11 | elusif | ty |
| 11:30.18 | Nandini | what's wrong with asking him? |
| 11:30.24 | Xinhuan | mm interesting Nandini |
| 11:30.26 | Thorgard | THEY LIE |
| 11:30.27 | elusif | i have asked |
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| 11:30.29 | elusif | they lie! |
| 11:30.46 | Thorgard | How do you know they lie if you don't know who their main is? ;P |
| 11:30.59 | Thorgard | Dun dun dun |
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| 11:31.34 | Nandini | so for the ping, the easiest thing to do was just steal the existing m2 model for it and replace its textures with some i drew myself, that way, the animation times match exactly |
| 11:31.56 | Xinhuan | what did you change? the color? |
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| 11:32.09 | Nandini | you know those 4 arrow kind of things that spin around the dot when you ping? |
| 11:32.26 | Thuz | Are there any ways to make a FontString dynamic in width? |
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| 11:32.41 | Kivin | :SetWidth? |
| 11:32.47 | Nandini | i replaced them with a rotating infinite spiral, so it looks like a whirlpool constantly spinning down onto the ping location |
| 11:32.50 | Thuz | That's pretty static |
| 11:33.14 | Kivin | I don't compute |
| 11:33.16 | Thuz | I was rather thinking like depending on the width of the characters currently in the FontString |
| 11:33.21 | Nandini | and i replaced the outward radiating ring with a green glow |
| 11:33.31 | Kivin | I'm pretty sure it wont concatenate if you don't set it's width, at all |
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| 11:34.10 | Nandini | but i need to change the alpha blending setting for the textures in the m2 file i think, my green glow is coming out too opaque |
| 11:34.16 | Thuz | Well, if you have a FontString of width X, and you have a dynamic string that changes everytime you for instance gain experience and at some point it becomes a width > X. |
| 11:34.40 | elusif | thorgard, i'm nearly sure they lie just need confirmation |
| 11:35.28 | Nandini | ask someone else in his guild? |
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| 11:38.25 | Nandini | to be honest, if you have a personal problem with someone, going around behind his back and snooping probably won't help fix anything |
| 11:38.46 | Nandini | if you can't resolve it by talking to him, it might be best to forget about it and move on |
| 11:40.16 | Ellipsis | Nandini: I need some more information re: PB-293 (debuff highlighting on player frame requires enabling debuffs) |
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| 11:40.46 | Ellipsis | because, well, you said that it works on all other frames...but I'm unable to reproduce *that* behavior |
| 11:41.17 | Nandini | well, on every other frame, i can go to Other > Auras > Enable and uncheck buffs and debuffs, and debuff highlighting will still appear on those frames if i set it to |
| 11:41.27 | Ellipsis | ...that's not working for me, is the thing |
| 11:41.38 | Ellipsis | and according to the code, it *shouldn't* work |
| 11:41.51 | Nandini | let me go try again |
| 11:41.53 | Ellipsis | if both buffs and debuffs are disabled, then the aura highlight update function is never called |
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| 11:44.07 | Ellipsis | [2:37:49 am] <[SW]Dodge> Ellipsis: pitbull aura bug -> http://i31.tinypic.com/b8tfro.jpg :) << [SW]Dodge: did that happen with buff spacing set to 0? |
| 11:45.17 | Nandini | you are correct, after reloading, debuff highlighting doesn't work on any frame if buffs and debuffs are both disabled |
| 11:46.14 | Ellipsis | so um, I assume you wish to put in a feature request that it should? :) |
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| 11:47.14 | Thorgard | Hmmm.. |
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| 11:48.41 | Nandini | i thought you had told me yesterday that it should (which is why the setting is still enabled even when buffs and debuffs are both disabled) |
| 11:48.56 | Ellipsis | ck told me that it should |
| 11:49.03 | Ellipsis | but now that I see the code, he's just plain wrong :P |
| 11:49.20 | Thorgard | Do I need both SharedMedia and SharedMedia-2.0? What's the difference? -2.0's fancier with LibStubbage? |
| 11:49.21 | Nandini | it makes sense that it SHOULDN'T |
| 11:49.32 | Ellipsis | yes, it absolutely does |
| 11:49.42 | Ellipsis | but we do try to please the users, after all |
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| 11:50.10 | Nandini | i wonder how much extra processing is going on by leaving them enabled and setting their number to zero |
| 11:50.30 | Ellipsis | the thing is, it makes sense from a code perspective to run the highlight update code separately from the rest of the aura code (since the highlight stuff doesn't need to do nearly as much work as full aura stuff) |
| 11:51.03 | Ellipsis | well, you're skipping all the layout stuff...and filtering...but there will still be some extra checks you don't really need |
| 11:51.18 | Nandini | well, it still needs to be notified when auras change, that's probably one of the more expensive parts |
| 11:51.26 | Ellipsis | basically, each individual feature's code path will return early when your #buffs/debuffs = 0 |
| 11:51.50 | Ellipsis | nah, that's handled outside pitbull really |
| 11:52.07 | Ellipsis | all it needs to do is iterate through debuffs |
| 11:52.22 | Ellipsis | whereas full aura has to do debuffs + buffs and weapon buffs |
| 11:52.32 | Ellipsis | and all the display/layout code involved |
| 11:52.50 | Nandini | i would support moving debuff highlighting (and missing buff highlighting could be added) outside of the aura drawing code |
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| 11:53.21 | Ellipsis | I agree, the way it's set up now doesn't make much sense |
| 11:53.41 | Ellipsis | I'll go over that tomorrow and see if I can refactor things a bit |
| 11:53.57 | Nandini | but perhaps there needs to be a more unified highlighting/fading handler so that things aren't always conflicting with each other |
| 11:54.14 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 11:54.33 | [Liq] | If Google was to create a wifi hotspot technology, it would be called Gspot. And for those who wish to connect directly to the router, they can use Google's custom ethernet cables call Gstring. |
| 11:54.41 | Ellipsis | though I'm not sure debuff highlighting should be part of the status project I'm working on, since it's not a binary state (assuming color by debuff type is on) |
| 11:54.42 | Nandini | imagine if in addition to bars, icons, and texts, there was also a "highlight" type of thing |
| 11:55.02 | Ellipsis | Nandini: you read my mind :P |
| 11:55.07 | Thorgard | Hohum |
| 11:55.17 | Ellipsis | I've been pondering over that idea for a while, discussed it a bit with ck |
| 11:55.30 | Thorgard | Someone link me some of the WAU alternatives, bitte. |
| 11:55.46 | Ellipsis | he's reluctant to make a change like that because of the huge amount of work involved, and the fact that it's all working "pretty well" right now |
| 11:55.47 | Nandini | then modules could simply register new kinds of highlights, and your highlight handler could handle laying them out and actually displaying them |
| 11:56.59 | Nandini | in fact, your handler could highlight any number of things... bars, icons, texts, entire frames |
| 11:57.07 | Xinhuan | sounds like too much work. |
| 11:58.02 | Nandini | all of pitbull is too much work if you ask me :) (i'll admit, i fall back to other alternatives for raiding still) |
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| 11:58.57 | Ellipsis | Nandini: originally I thought of the status module as a way to consolidate the alpha control of frames (around the 287395756th time I heard a "why are my frames flashing" question with combatfader+rangecheck) |
| 12:00.10 | Ellipsis | I wanted to include other methods of displaying the information (coloring, borders, icons...) |
| 12:00.39 | Ellipsis | and pretty much every binary status would be converted to that, e.g. the combat icon, resting indicator... |
| 12:01.08 | Nandini | well, there is already a combaticon module, there's no reason someone can't make a combatborders module, or change it to a generic "combat" module that does any of those |
| 12:02.17 | Ellipsis | yeah, but to do that for each module seemed a terrible waste |
| 12:02.22 | Ellipsis | code reuse ftw |
| 12:02.45 | Ellipsis | though the more I think of it that way the more I worry I'll turn it into Grid :P |
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| 12:04.07 | Nandini | i don't think there's anything wrong with making a "highlight" type of thing |
| 12:04.46 | Nandini | for example, frames can already be the destination of icons and texts, bars can be the destination of icons and texts, frames and bars could both be destinations of highlights |
| 12:05.14 | Ellipsis | would highlights be limited to textures on top of the existing frame/bar? |
| 12:05.42 | Ellipsis | or would it also be able to just change the color and alpha of the frame/bar it's acting on |
| 12:06.28 | Nandini | i think the responsibility for changing the color and alpha of any bar should be solely the responsibility of that bar's module |
| 12:06.35 | Nandini | which is why i hate banzai taking over my health bar |
| 12:06.45 | Ellipsis | some people like that :P |
| 12:07.08 | Ellipsis | though, I'm not sure how many would switch their Banzai module to highlighting the whole frame in some way |
| 12:07.11 | Ellipsis | if given the option |
| 12:07.59 | Ellipsis | here's the thing though, using your highlight concept...there aren't enough highlightable things to go around |
| 12:08.09 | Ellipsis | oh, and it doesn't solve the competition over frame alpha either |
| 12:09.33 | Ellipsis | I'm also struggling with a logical way to organize configuration of it |
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| 12:09.46 | Ellipsis | ...and I've been talking to myself all this time |
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| 12:10.04 | Nandini_ | yes i got dc'ed, i think the last thing i tried to say was just get rid of the banzai module altogether and make "color by aggro" the top priority for all health bars then |
| 12:10.36 | Nandini_ | if all it can do is recolor health bars, just do it in the health bar module so you don't have two modules fighting over health bar color :) |
| 12:11.13 | Ellipsis | right...but there are still a lot more modules that want to present status information than there are highlightable frame elements |
| 12:11.28 | Ellipsis | I guess a priority system would solve that |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62961 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: recycleFrame now updates the children parents to UIParent so they dont get lost. |
| 12:11.35 | Ellipsis | but...that's getting really complicated |
| 12:11.43 | Nandini_ | icons and texts have a priority system already |
| 12:11.49 | Ellipsis | icons do |
| 12:11.50 | Arrowmaster | hmm when the hell is OnInitialize called on a rock library thats embeded in an addon? |
| 12:12.23 | Ellipsis | Nandini: what of the modules that are fighting over alpha, then? any ideas on how to solve that? |
| 12:12.23 | Nandini_ | also, there's no reason you can't use a texture that highlights one corner or half of a frame |
| 12:12.34 | Ellipsis | that's dangerously Grid-like :P |
| 12:12.56 | Nandini_ | your display of auras is dangerously x-perl like :P |
| 12:13.03 | Ellipsis | hardly |
| 12:13.20 | Ellipsis | as so many users keep whining, we don't have separately scaled icons for the player's auras! |
| 12:13.45 | Nandini_ | you have more options, but the default appearance is similar to x-perl |
| 12:14.00 | Ellipsis | *shrug* |
| 12:14.09 | Ellipsis | the defaults were set in stone way before my time :P |
| 12:14.18 | Nandini_ | i'm not talking about putting a dot in the corner of a frame to highlight that corner either |
| 12:14.39 | Nandini_ | i'm talking about overlaying 1/4 of the entire frame with a semi-opaque highlight |
| 12:14.52 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 12:15.08 | Ellipsis | fading out as it moves away from the corner? kind of like 1/4th of the default debuff highlight texture? |
| 12:15.15 | Nandini_ | or actually, you don't have to prioritize, just when a new highlight is added, subdivide the frame again |
| 12:15.31 | Nandini_ | with one highlight, the entire frame is highlighted around the edges |
| 12:15.50 | Nandini_ | with two highlights, you put two half highlights over the frame |
| 12:15.56 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 12:16.02 | Ellipsis | I wonder how cluttered that would get |
| 12:16.42 | Xinhuan | hmm there's a cool graphic file |
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| 12:16.57 | Xinhuan | Interface\FrameXML\Minimap\HumanUITile-TimeIndicator.blp |
| 12:16.59 | Nandini_ | have you ever seen an x-perl frame that is cursed, poisoned, diseased, magic-debuffed, has a HoT on it, is taking damage, and is missing your class's buff? it's a rainbow |
| 12:17.23 | Ellipsis | I've never used x-perl |
| 12:17.27 | Nandini_ | yeah that's the day/night indicator, it switches at 5:30 AM and 9:00 PM |
| 12:17.37 | Xinhuan | no the day/night indicator is different |
| 12:17.39 | Xinhuan | that one is |
| 12:17.46 | Nandini_ | split in the middle? |
| 12:17.50 | Xinhuan | Interface\FrameXML\Minimap\UI-TOD-Indicator.blp |
| 12:18.11 | Xinhuan | the first one is a continuous blp that wraps around |
| 12:18.17 | sylvanaar_work | have you seen the "you are playing too long" stuff in the blizzard UI kit? |
| 12:18.17 | Xinhuan | the second is just 2 round buttons |
| 12:18.48 | Nandini_ | yeah is a :| icon if you've played for a little too long and a :( icon if you "must be getting tired" |
| 12:19.36 | Nandini_ | that first blp you mentioned is probably a leftover from early alphas when they had different UI styles for different factions |
| 12:20.34 | Confusion` | Anyone know where I can get aguf3 with branches :(? |
| 12:21.04 | Xinhuan | no, its actually wraparound blp |
| 12:21.09 | Xinhuan | that can be shifted off-set |
| 12:21.16 | Xinhuan | as the time of the day passes by |
| 12:21.42 | Xinhuan | so the graphic changes gradually from day to night and back to day |
| 12:22.09 | Nandini_ | well you better write an addon that puts it in the clock so it finally gets some use again |
| 12:22.26 | Xinhuan | probably not going to bother hehe |
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| 12:23.44 | Thorgard | sylvanaar_work, 'you are playing too long' stuff? |
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| 12:24.23 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62962 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: Replace :IsFriendly with a simple UnitIsFriend check. |
| 12:24.32 | sylvanaar_work | Thorgard yeah - i think they planned on adding it at some point in the past - an indicator which showed if you had exceeded recommended play times |
| 12:24.41 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: its only for china |
| 12:24.46 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: yes, buff spacing 0 |
| 12:24.47 | Nandini_ | there are some globals in the various frame xml files that refer to "you have been playing too long" with an icon of :| |
| 12:24.52 | sylvanaar_work | hahah |
| 12:25.00 | Ellipsis | [SW]Dodge: rats, there goes that idea |
| 12:25.03 | Nandini_ | the very extreme one says "you need to sleep" :( |
| 12:25.13 | Ellipsis | well, I need to go pass out now |
| 12:25.21 | nevcairiel | the chinese have a limitation on playing |
| 12:25.25 | Ellipsis | I'll see if I can figure it out tomorrow [SW]Dodge |
| 12:25.26 | mikma | WitchHunt love |
| 12:25.36 | mikma | Ace3'ify it!!11 |
| 12:25.38 | Ellipsis | and Nandini_, I'll try and do your debuff highlight stuff as well |
| 12:25.43 | sylvanaar_work | nevcairiel how do you know that? |
| 12:25.44 | nevcairiel | mikma: ammo is on that |
| 12:25.50 | Nandini_ | that's understandable since they have a tendancy to play for a week then keel over and die |
| 12:26.02 | mikma | nevcairiel: oh lol. |
| 12:26.03 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: common knowledge :P |
| 12:26.33 | sylvanaar_work | nevcairiel ok - news to me still' |
| 12:28.17 | Nandini_ | who has some good ideas for new minimap ping effects? |
| 12:28.44 | Nandini_ | i am limited to one static texture, one spinning texture, and one expanding texture |
| 12:29.04 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4183340.stm |
| 12:29.27 | nevcairiel | "The government in Beijing is reported to be introducing the controls to deter people from playing for longer than three consecutive hours. " |
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| 12:29.46 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62963 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Don't use roster-2.1 in the coloredNames metatable. |
| 12:30.48 | Thorgard | What's a good equipment comparing mod a la EquipCompare? |
| 12:30.48 | sylvanaar_work | "omg you ninjaed my sword!" Now you die! |
| 12:31.17 | Nandini_ | Thorgard: i use ratingbuster |
| 12:31.25 | Stanzilla | tekKompare |
| 12:31.57 | sylvanaar_work | they should have done that in the US - cutoff at 8 hrs |
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| 12:32.25 | Thorgard | Nandini_, will it add a second tooltip showing what's currently equipped when I hover over an item? |
| 12:32.32 | Nandini_ | if they limited you to 8 hours in 24 hours, they could probably only charge 4.95 a month |
| 12:32.35 | Thrae | Thorgard: teKompare |
| 12:32.44 | mikma | Thrae: go code |
| 12:32.59 | Thrae | mikma: I am coding... |
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| 12:33.16 | Thrae | Thorgard: tekKompare, sorry. http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 12:33.23 | mikma | Thrae: good. i also have a request for you. Screenshot of PerfectTargets you are updating? :) |
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| 12:34.29 | Nandini_ | don't most all item tooltips show your currently equipped item next to it now if you hold down shift while hovering? |
| 12:34.46 | Nandini_ | i thought bliz had built that in in 2.2 or so |
| 12:35.38 | Nandini_ | RB does the extra math for you and shows you the difference in total stats between your equipped item and the one you're looking at |
| 12:35.43 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: u know a rogue named Orlouge |
| 12:35.52 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.11 | Xinhuan | no |
| 12:36.30 | Thorgard | Thanks. |
| 12:36.44 | Lukian | Thorgard, what Nandini_ said |
| 12:37.25 | Nandini_ | it also breaks down ratings for you to show their effect at your level (or at a specified level) and can show you a nice, customizable summary at the end |
| 12:37.38 | Nandini_ | i've not used tekKompare, it may do the same thing or do it better |
| 12:37.48 | Thrae | Nandini_: Only at AH |
| 12:38.12 | Thrae | Thorgard: If you want big, RB as Nandini_ said. If you -just- want another tooltip, tekKompare. |
| 12:38.32 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62964 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: BugSack: Use LibSharedMedia-2.0 instead of SharedMedia-1.0. |
| 12:38.44 | Nandini_ | i think when i hover over quest reward items in the quest log, wow shows both tooltips now too |
| 12:38.52 | Lukian | what's that site that lets you sandbox your character profile? |
| 12:38.58 | Thuz | Nandini_: with shift down, it does |
| 12:38.58 | mikma | vhaarr is on the roll |
| 12:39.03 | Nandini_ | and if i hold shift down while hovering over a bag item it does |
| 12:39.03 | Thorgard | Fair enough. |
| 12:39.39 | Thorgard | BugSack uses LSM? :o |
| 12:39.45 | Nandini_ | so you might not need an addon, Thorgard, you might just need to hold down Shift depending on when you want the extra tooltip |
| 12:39.48 | vhaarr | FATALITY! |
| 12:39.51 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 12:39.52 | nevcairiel | Thorgard: for the sounds |
| 12:40.10 | Thorgard | Nandini_, aye, I wasn't even aware that was there. |
| 12:40.37 | mikma | vhaarr: wish? why wont you? |
| 12:40.42 | Nandini_ | blizz occasionally steals the best and most popular ideas from addon authors and hacks it into WoW |
| 12:40.47 | vhaarr | Thorgard: I'm going to need a Blessing of Protection when doing that. |
| 12:40.49 | vhaarr | not power infusion |
| 12:40.51 | Nandini_ | and usually they mess it up somehow |
| 12:40.55 | Thorgard | Oh lawdy. |
| 12:41.07 | vhaarr | mikma: because so many addons depend on it being like it is now |
| 12:41.10 | Thorgard | Nandini_, aye, I've noticed. ;P |
| 12:41.17 | vhaarr | mikma: and I'm sure I'd fuck up something |
| 12:41.20 | mikma | vhaarr: branch it :) |
| 12:41.24 | vhaarr | zzz! |
| 12:41.28 | mikma | CLICK THE RABBIT |
| 12:41.38 | mikma | aka grid by vhaarr |
| 12:41.40 | Thorgard | Bring it back as Checkers. |
| 12:41.46 | Thorgard | Or Squared. |
| 12:41.48 | Chompers | what would you change vhaarr? |
| 12:41.51 | vhaarr | WhackAPlayer |
| 12:42.24 | Thorgard | Or 70sDiscoFloor |
| 12:42.25 | mikma | vhaarr: just make sure that it needs this: if you click a player from grid, it'll always do /point and /laugh |
| 12:42.50 | vhaarr | Chompers: first of all I'd get all the modules out of the global scope, they contaminate it a lot now, then I'd get rid of Roster-2.1 completely, then I'd fix up the module option system so that all the option tables could be reduced in size based on handlers and pass values |
| 12:43.03 | Thuz | mikma: Sounds like a function from a coming module: Grid_ROFLOKOPTERZ |
| 12:43.04 | vhaarr | mikma: lol |
| 12:43.16 | Nandini | name it SaturdayNightFever and make it dance when you click on a square |
| 12:43.21 | Chompers | sounds like a decent project vhaarr ;) |
| 12:43.33 | vhaarr | Chompers: it's actually more of a 30-minute job |
| 12:43.39 | vhaarr | but fixing all the 3rd party modules ... |
| 12:43.42 | vhaarr | wts |
| 12:43.46 | Chompers | eaugh |
| 12:44.17 | Chompers | i think alot of those extra modules could be shrunk into grid itsself |
| 12:44.58 | Nandini | i think grid3 has already incorporated features from some of the more popular modules |
| 12:46.15 | Nandini | ooh i just thought of a cool ping animation, a big fat red x like you see on treasure maps :) |
| 12:47.44 | Thorgard | Nandini, how about a bullseye? |
| 12:48.21 | Orionshock | anyone know off hand know how to get the run time of a BG |
| 12:48.34 | Nandini | theres a function for it |
| 12:49.16 | Nandini | ms = GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() |
| 12:51.14 | Orionshock | 0 |
| 12:52.03 | Nandini | perhaps it is broken then, i noticed i haven't been able to see the time on scoreboards lately |
| 12:52.39 | Nandini | but that could also be because i've resized and moved that frame |
| 12:52.53 | Nandini | and the fontstring doesn't fit anymore |
| 12:53.06 | Keias | bah, stupid fucking maintenance :( |
| 12:53.16 | Nandini | maintenance is good! |
| 12:53.32 | Keias | not when I have the whole day free! |
| 12:53.46 | nevcairiel | even PTR is still down |
| 12:53.47 | nevcairiel | ftl |
| 12:53.55 | Nandini | well, now you actually DO have the whole day free, think of it that way :) |
| 12:55.25 | Nandini | i wish blizzard would learn to underpromise and overdeliver when it comes to things like response times or down times |
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| 12:55.40 | mikma | Orionshock: humm actually. someone said something about that... |
| 12:55.46 | Nandini | like at disney world, if you're at the end of a line for a ride, it says your wait will be 2 hours |
| 12:55.59 | Nandini | but after you've been in line for 15 minutes, it says your wait time is only an hour |
| 12:56.35 | Nandini | and you get to the front of the line after 45 mins total |
| 12:56.40 | Nandini | so they are constantly lying to you, but by doing so manage to exceed your expectations and make you happy |
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| 12:58.14 | Nandini | i suppose if they told us servers would be up at 3 PM tho and they actually brought them up at 1 PM, people would still complain because they "missed" two hours of playtime because blizz finished early |
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| 12:58.47 | NivFreak | someone will always whine |
| 12:58.55 | NivFreak | they do a really good job imo |
| 12:59.02 | NivFreak | I can't imagine the nightmare they have on thier hands |
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| 12:59.20 | Orionshock | WSG |
| 12:59.28 | Orionshock | 1Hr 11 Mins |
| 12:59.32 | mikma | oh well, can't find the info about it |
| 12:59.39 | Orionshock | 1min till server shut down |
| 13:00.50 | Thorgard | Orionshock, nice. |
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| 13:10.22 | Orionshock | @ 30 mins they where crying to loose |
| 13:10.32 | Orionshock | we told em to go get the flag so we could win... |
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| 13:11.51 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r125 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:11.51 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: TinyTip: Total revamp. TinyTip and TinyTipModules are now merged. Default |
| 13:11.51 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: modules inside TinyTip will be basic modules, so far: TinyTipBasic (basic |
| 13:11.51 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: formating), TinyTipPositioning( anchoring, now with SMART anchoring option), and |
| 13:11.52 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: TinyTipTargets. These default to internal, but can be checkedout and work as |
| 13:11.54 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: standalone addons if you so desire. Also, updated Dongle, but it's still giving |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: that damn error (works anyway). |
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| 13:15.41 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r126 10/trunk/ (12 files in 3 dirs): TinyTipBasic: Initial import. Working version. Basic module included in TinyTip, this can also work standalone if you so desire. Provides basic formating. It is not needed to check this out if you already have TinyTip. |
| 13:15.41 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r127 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:15.41 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: TinyTipPositioning: Initial import. Working version. Basic module included in |
| 13:15.42 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: TinyTip, this can also work standalone if you so desire. Provides anchoring and |
| 13:15.44 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: positioning. It is not needed to check this out if you already have TinyTip. |
| 13:15.46 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r128 10/trunk/ (12 files in 3 dirs): TinyTipTargets: Initial import. Working version. Basic module included in TinyTip, this can also work standalone if you so desire. Provides targeting info. It is not needed to check this out if you already have TinyTip. |
| 13:15.50 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r129 10/trunk/TinyTip/modules: TinyTip: Fixed externals. |
| 13:17.34 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r62965 10/branches/mHud/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 13:17.34 | CIA-9 | mHud: |
| 13:17.34 | CIA-9 | Change: Configuration.lua => Text moved to usEN. |
| 13:17.34 | CIA-9 | Change: Anchors can be numbers (barId's) |
| 13:17.34 | CIA-9 | Fix: Abyss text hides when supposed to. |
| 13:17.37 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62966 10TinyTipTargets/ (12 files in 2 dirs): TinyTipTargets: Initial import. Working version. Basic module included in TinyTip, this can also work standalone if you so desire. Provides targeting info. It is not needed to check this out if you already have TinyTip. |
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| 13:18.10 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62967 10TinyTipPositioning/ (4 files): TinyTipPositioning: Initial import. Working version. Basic module included in TinyTip, this can also work standalone if you so desire. Provides formating. It is not needed to check this out if you already have TinyTip. |
| 13:18.52 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62968 10TinyTipBasic/ (12 files in 2 dirs): TinyTipBasic: Initial import. Working version. Basic module included in TinyTip, this can also work standalone if you so desire. Provides formating. It is not needed to check this out if you already have TinyTip. |
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| 13:23.14 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62969 10TinyTip/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 13:23.14 | CIA-9 | TinyTip: Total revamp. TinyTip and TinyTipModules are now merged. Default |
| 13:23.14 | CIA-9 | modules inside TinyTip will be basic modules, so far: TinyTipBasic (basic |
| 13:23.14 | CIA-9 | formating), TinyTipPositioning( anchoring, now with SMART anchoring option), and |
| 13:23.14 | CIA-9 | TinyTipTargets. These default to internal, but can be checkedout and work as |
| 13:23.15 | CIA-9 | standalone addons if you so desire. Also, updated Dongle, but it's still giving |
| 13:23.19 | CIA-9 | that damn error (works anyway). |
| 13:24.41 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62970 10TinyTip/libs/Dongle-1.0/: TinyTip: Need to add this first. |
| 13:25.24 | kenlyric | tuesday? nooooooo |
| 13:25.47 | Shirik|zZz | heh |
| 13:25.53 | Shirik|zZz | tuesday is sleep day |
| 13:25.54 | Shirik|zZz | :) |
| 13:25.59 | Shirik|zZz | go back to sleep |
| 13:25.59 | kenlyric | audiosurf day |
| 13:26.19 | kenlyric | can't, working |
| 13:27.13 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62971 10TinyTip/ (4 files in 2 dirs): TinyTip: Add Dongle files, add externals. |
| 13:27.57 | Srosh | Thrae, in the TinyTipTargets directory on the wowace-svn are the TinyTipBasic files. |
| 13:28.35 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62972 10TinyTip/libs/Dongle-1.0/Dongle.lua: TinyTip: Revision-keyword removal. |
| 13:29.13 | Elkano | Thrae, why don't you simply set up externals for dongle? |
| 13:29.48 | Thrae | Elkano: Because it's silly to external a tag. |
| 13:29.52 | JoshBorke | because that's just not the way he works! |
| 13:29.53 | JoshBorke | and that |
| 13:30.07 | JoshBorke | it really is quite silly |
| 13:30.08 | Thrae | Elkano: I need to find out if it's my client or Wowace svn. Probably my client. |
| 13:30.48 | nevcairiel | Thrae: you need to commit the correct version of dongle.lua again, or its stuck at that uber high revision |
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| 13:31.13 | JoshBorke | yea, nimwit! |
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| 13:31.47 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r62973 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (AtlasLoot.lua LootButtons.lua): |
| 13:31.47 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:31.47 | CIA-9 | - Items in WishList will showing their prices if available, instead of showing set name they belong to. |
| 13:31.48 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62974 10TinyTipTargets/ (12 files in 2 dirs): TinyTipTargets: Whoops. |
| 13:31.50 | Elkano | oh, you're right, as long as you don't set the rev keyword it's no harm... forgot that it need the keyword as property |
| 13:33.20 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62975 10TinyTip/libs/Dongle-1.0/Dongle.lua: TinyTip: Re-re-commit of Dongle. |
| 13:36.06 | elusif | tewt |
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| 13:37.13 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r130 10/trunk/TinyTip/libs/Dongle-1.0/Dongle.lua: TinyTip: Remove revision date. |
| 13:37.13 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r131 10/trunk/TinyTip/libs/Dongle-1.0/Dongle.lua: TinyTip: Re-recommit of Dongle. |
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| 13:48.07 | Orionshock | lua> string.find("ALLINCAPS","incaps") |
| 13:48.08 | lua_bot | Orionshock: nil |
| 13:48.11 | Orionshock | ... |
| 13:48.12 | Orionshock | ok.. |
| 13:50.03 | CIA-9 | 03wang * r62976 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua: |
| 13:50.04 | CIA-9 | NDragIt |
| 13:50.04 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update |
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| 13:53.55 | break19 | Orionshock: theres likely a function for converting strings to upper or lower case, but for some reason i cant access the online manual |
| 13:54.31 | nevcairiel | lua> ("LALALA"):lower() |
| 13:54.31 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: lalala |
| 13:54.42 | break19 | there ya go |
| 13:54.44 | nevcairiel | lua> ("LAlaLA"):lower():upper() |
| 13:54.45 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: LALALA |
| 13:55.05 | nevcairiel | lua> ("LAlaLA"):lower():upper():reverse() |
| 13:55.05 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: ALALAL |
| 13:55.08 | Wobin_ | Elkano: pong |
| 13:55.12 | Grum | zomgkek |
| 13:55.28 | kenlyric | heh |
| 13:55.35 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: did you see my message last night? |
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| 13:55.44 | nevcairiel | if i did, i forgot |
| 13:55.55 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: about adding an option for mind control bar switching? |
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| 13:56.02 | kenlyric | *an option to turn it off |
| 13:56.07 | nevcairiel | why would you want that? |
| 13:56.25 | kenlyric | because you have those abilities macroed from the 2.5 years of that not happening. |
| 13:56.28 | break19 | lua> string.find(("Whereisme"):lower(),"where") |
| 13:56.29 | lua_bot | break19: 1, 5 |
| 13:56.32 | nevcairiel | meh just adapt |
| 13:56.33 | kenlyric | apparently it fucked some people over hard on Teron |
| 13:56.46 | nevcairiel | skill check by bartender |
| 13:56.51 | nevcairiel | yozu should thank me |
| 13:56.51 | kenlyric | well, not my fight, somebody asked if I would ask |
| 13:56.52 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:57.01 | nevcairiel | -z |
| 13:57.12 | Elkano | Wobin_, when I pinged you I just installed xSparky and tried to attach it to FuBar but the bars vanished; even reanchoring them to the LegoBlock didn't help. Well, after I pinged you I relogged and they showed up. |
| 13:57.16 | kenlyric | though I wish blizzard wouldn't put useful abilities in the #7 slot |
| 13:57.25 | nevcairiel | yeah well cant control that :P |
| 13:57.26 | kenlyric | stubby fingers can't reach! |
| 13:57.32 | Elkano | Still it seems there is a problem with on-the-fly reanchring |
| 13:57.34 | kenlyric | well, you can if you macro them :) |
| 13:57.37 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r62977 10AtlasLoot/ (Bossnames/bossnames.en.lua Core/AtlasLoot.lua): |
| 13:57.37 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:57.37 | CIA-9 | - Boss names update, using more Babbles |
| 13:57.49 | break19 | Elkano: reloading always fixes it. :) |
| 13:57.56 | Orionshock | break i was wondering if string.find respected casing |
| 13:57.58 | Elkano | still a bug ^^ |
| 13:57.59 | Wobin_ | Elkano: did you have 'hide' set? |
| 13:58.03 | Elkano | no |
| 13:58.18 | Wobin_ | Cause honestly? I've never had any problems connecting =P |
| 13:58.30 | Elkano | I simply reanchored it via the config panel and it didn't show up at the new position |
| 13:58.34 | Orionshock | seems that LibGratuity dosn;t :lower() strings before passing it to string.find for searching the tooltip |
| 13:58.47 | break19 | Orionshock: i've never known any scripting language to ignore case unless told to :) |
| 13:58.49 | Cryect | Orionshock: it respects everthing in string.find the pattern |
| 13:58.53 | Elkano | at least not until I did a /rl |
| 13:58.56 | Wobin_ | To say, FuBar3 or something |
| 13:59.14 | Wobin_ | meh, |
| 13:59.17 | Wobin_ | I'd log in and test |
| 13:59.18 | Orionshock | well it's a search function... come on.. :P |
| 13:59.20 | Wobin_ | but I can't |
| 13:59.26 | Orionshock | <-- is not a programer |
| 13:59.27 | break19 | Wobin_: i've had it happen to me too.. |
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| 13:59.37 | Wobin_ | To fubars in particular? |
| 13:59.42 | break19 | no |
| 13:59.43 | Wobin_ | or anything |
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| 14:00.06 | break19 | its also done it to the worldframe.. just not show up until a reload |
| 14:00.07 | Wobin_ | No errors or such? |
| 14:00.10 | break19 | nope |
| 14:00.18 | Wobin_ | It'll try to attach itself to whatever about 5 times |
| 14:00.18 | Elkano | wobin, reanchored to aguf and even back to lego but it didn't show up until rl |
| 14:00.23 | break19 | but, i think i may have a causal action... |
| 14:00.48 | vithos | hmm.. anybody else have problems with multiple addons that autoinspect talents on mouseover getting the talents mixed up between players? |
| 14:00.56 | break19 | remove the frame it's attached to somehow.. spark wont come back until a reload |
| 14:01.04 | vithos | like Cowtip+an arena frame |
| 14:01.27 | CIA-9 | 03orionshock * r62978 10GuildCraft/GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUI.lua: |
| 14:01.27 | CIA-9 | GuildCraft: |
| 14:01.27 | CIA-9 | -Implement ghetto search function for scanning tooltips because im too lazy to do this some other way. |
| 14:01.27 | CIA-9 | -No im not going to change the choiceUI, stop asking :P |
| 14:02.03 | Grum | Orionshock: change the choiceUI! |
| 14:02.08 | vithos | or just the default inspect frame being open + cowtip seems to do it too |
| 14:02.34 | break19 | like if it's anchored to the legoblock.. turn off the block. poof. spark goes away until reload :) |
| 14:03.34 | Wobin_ | hm |
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| 14:04.39 | Orionshock | Grum: DIAF |
| 14:04.51 | Grum | i didn't ask! i commanded you! |
| 14:04.59 | Grum | now code *WHIPS* |
| 14:05.04 | break19 | Orionshock: .. yea. change it.. now |
| 14:05.35 | Orionshock | the ChoiceUI is a horrific PoS design that is intended to hateful, it's not something that either the Config nor the GUI lib where designed for... so use it 2wice and suck it up |
| 14:06.14 | break19 | if you dont, i'll call kenco to come recode your addons.... |
| 14:06.33 | Orionshock | ... who the hell is kenco? |
| 14:06.36 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r62979 10TinyTip/libs/Dongle-1.0/ (Dongle.lua changelog.txt): TinyTip: Dongle is now the latest revision, fixing Dongle error. My fault. |
| 14:06.40 | break19 | ktm author |
| 14:06.49 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r132 10/trunk/TinyTip/libs/Dongle-1.0/ (changelog.txt Dongle.lua): TinyTip: OK, now Dongle is the latest rev. Seriously. Fixes Dongle error. |
| 14:06.52 | Orionshock | he can go piss up a rope too |
| 14:06.57 | break19 | kenco threat meter :P\ |
| 14:07.17 | Orionshock | but hey now you can use regexes to search with :D |
| 14:07.34 | kenlyric | poor thrae |
| 14:07.48 | kenlyric | he just can't grab hold of that dongle |
| 14:07.54 | kenlyric | error |
| 14:08.03 | break19 | must have a small dongle then. |
| 14:08.51 | break19 | its not the size of the dongle.. its how you use it's stub. |
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| 14:24.33 | neenee | *it's, *its |
| 14:24.56 | break19 | neenee: yea yea.. |
| 14:25.20 | neenee | Well, you use punctuation, so you might as well do the rest right :) |
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| 14:27.13 | break19 | ok, fine. "It isn't the size of the dongle that counts. It is how you use its stub." better, Mr. Grammar? :P |
| 14:27.24 | Daemona | hmmm anyone know an addon that will list patterns you don't know with your tradeskills? |
| 14:27.24 | neenee | :) |
| 14:27.32 | neenee | *Better. Yup :) |
| 14:29.07 | Daemona | aaah lets see how good AckisRecipeList |
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| 14:37.02 | SunTsu | Daemona: AckisRecipeList works great, it just has a flaw - it doesn't show you where to get the missing recipes |
| 14:37.18 | Daemona | sure it does |
| 14:38.30 | Daemona | at least in the version from today it has a plus for each pattern |
| 14:38.50 | Daemona | and will reveal e.g. BoP Mob Drop: Random bosses and mobs in Hyjal/BT |
| 14:39.31 | SunTsu | Daemona: Mine does not - how do you get the information? |
| 14:39.45 | Daemona | i open my leatherworking tab |
| 14:39.51 | Daemona | click scan skills |
| 14:40.02 | Daemona | and a window opens showing the patterns i miss |
| 14:40.31 | omeow | I made an addon using ace2 libraries. How do I get it to show up in WoWAceUpdater? |
| 14:40.37 | Daemona | + [375] - Shoulderpads of Renewed Life |
| 14:40.40 | SunTsu | Daemona: I think it works for drops but not for recipes that can be bought |
| 14:40.44 | Daemona | BoP Mob Drop: Random bosses and mobs in Hyjal/BT |
| 14:41.03 | Daemona | well it lists scryer exalted pattern too |
| 14:41.11 | Daemona | or darkiron dwarfs stuff |
| 14:41.53 | SunTsu | Daemona: OK, then something's wrong with my version |
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| 14:43.09 | sb | Daemona: sunwell up again? |
| 14:43.13 | Daemona | SunTsu http://i25.tinypic.com/5of1it.jpg |
| 14:44.33 | Daemona | sb "The information you have entered is not valid. Please check the spelling of the account name and password. If you need help in retrieving a lost or stolen password and account, see http://www.wow-europe.com for more information." |
| 14:44.43 | sb | Daemona: mhh yes, i see :/ |
| 14:45.12 | SunTsu | Daemona: Yeah, but does it show what vendor sells a given recipe? |
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| 14:45.38 | Grum | who cares! that is why you have sites like thottbot/wowdb/wowhead/* |
| 14:45.52 | Grum | next you are going to demand that the program knows the most efficient route to get there |
| 14:46.05 | Grum | and have it suggest to buy an epic mount and have a paladin in your group unless you are one |
| 14:46.11 | SunTsu | Grum: So, then, what's the point in the addon? I can get that information from thos offline databases, too |
| 14:46.20 | Grum | easy list of knowing what you miss |
| 14:46.24 | Grum | who cares where you get it :) |
| 14:46.33 | Grum | its just important to know *what* kind of loot it is |
| 14:46.45 | Grum | BoP/BoE and if one specific mob drops it |
| 14:46.58 | break19 | omeow: you commit the addon to the svn trunk.. |
| 14:47.10 | SunTsu | Grum: Then I just don't see the point. There are enough databases with recipe where I can lookup that kind of stuff |
| 14:47.37 | Daemona | haha grum ... thats what i asked from Xinhuan for the moonglade seasonal to collect all coins *cough* cross-zone route optimizing |
| 14:48.26 | Grum | Daemona: that is when you use external sources www.wowwiki.com/Elders for example |
| 14:48.28 | Daemona | SunTsu sorry but if you dont know where to find the thorium brotherhood vendor or the aldor vendor ... |
| 14:48.42 | Daemona | grum ... it got an optimized route? ^^ |
| 14:48.45 | Grum | yes? |
| 14:48.50 | Daemona | WOAH ;) |
| 14:49.03 | Grum | 'Walkthrough for All Coins: (Alliance|Horde)' |
| 14:49.19 | SunTsu | Daemona: that's not the point. There sometimes just is the information "vendor" - so what does that help me? |
| 14:50.01 | Daemona | example pls |
| 14:50.06 | break19 | SunTsu: keeps you from buying it on ah :)\ |
| 14:50.28 | Daemona | ! |
| 14:50.33 | SunTsu | Well, I am not at home, can't run WoW at work |
| 14:50.42 | Grum | break19: tbh, all recipies should be 'white' on the AH |
| 14:51.19 | break19 | grum, not always.. i've seen a few vendor-available recipes in green. i think. |
| 14:51.36 | Grum | blizzard claimed it did a final fixing round a bit back |
| 14:52.07 | SunTsu | Daemona: Well, Ackis himself started putting vendor information in on February/13th, so I guess I'll have to be a little patient or send him patches |
| 14:52.25 | Daemona | [x] send patches |
| 14:52.38 | Daemona | [x] commit to svn |
| 14:52.39 | Daemona | ;) |
| 14:53.21 | Grum | SunTsu: tbh this information is quite harvestable from wowhead or a like |
| 14:54.46 | SunTsu | Grum: Just thought about whether Ackis just shouldn't cooperate with lightheaded or such |
| 14:55.17 | Grum | could make it an opt-dep :P |
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| 14:56.52 | Paddlok | Hey |
| 14:56.58 | Paddlok | Anyone there can give me a bit of a help? |
| 14:57.16 | Paddlok | Having trouble accessing the svn for the new omen 2.0 |
| 14:57.59 | SunTsu | Grum: Yeah, that's what I thought. I just don't know lua... Beginning to read pil at the moment |
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| 14:58.35 | Grum | paddlok: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/Omen/2.4 <-- |
| 14:59.43 | Maldivia | Grum: would be a good link, if the tarball options worked :9 |
| 14:59.52 | Grum | Maldivia: kek |
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| 15:00.48 | Stanzilla | Paddlok: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Omen/2.4/ |
| 15:01.33 | Paddlok | Error: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/d13d974c-ef97-4d4b-b480-422c5b290218': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 15:01.39 | Paddlok | I get that there error |
| 15:01.45 | Paddlok | when I try and access it Stanzilla |
| 15:01.58 | break19 | lol.. where's the car? http://www.bigducky.com/4images/details.php?image_id=218 |
| 15:02.09 | Paddlok | I use tortorise svn |
| 15:03.11 | Grum | Paddlok: what do you do? |
| 15:03.19 | Grum | because you are not doing a checkout |
| 15:03.55 | Paddlok | Well |
| 15:04.05 | Josh_Borke | you cannot commit to svn.wowace.com |
| 15:04.11 | winkiller | phew, massive memleak from one of today's addo updated it seems |
| 15:04.15 | Paddlok | I am rightclicking a new folder |
| 15:04.20 | Paddlok | named it Omen |
| 15:04.23 | Paddlok | and Chosing update |
| 15:04.28 | Paddlok | import* |
| 15:04.31 | Grum | right |
| 15:04.32 | Grum | lol |
| 15:04.42 | Paddlok | And directing it to the url that was given to me |
| 15:04.42 | Thorgard | Should be checking out. |
| 15:04.45 | Grum | as i just said, the magic word is 'Check out' |
| 15:04.47 | Josh_Borke | import does not equal update |
| 15:04.54 | Paddlok | I see |
| 15:04.59 | Paddlok | ye |
| 15:05.03 | Grum | rightclick in your addons folder, select 'SVN Checkout' |
| 15:05.04 | Paddlok | I will give that a try |
| 15:05.06 | Josh_Borke | import means: take this folder and put it ON the server |
| 15:05.15 | Josh_Borke | update means: take this folder and pull FROM the server |
| 15:05.16 | Grum | put in http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Omen/2.4/ and store it in Addons/Omen |
| 15:05.29 | Paddlok | there we go |
| 15:05.32 | Paddlok | uploading now lol |
| 15:05.35 | Paddlok | such a noob :( |
| 15:05.37 | Grum | uploading? |
| 15:05.40 | Paddlok | ty for the help |
| 15:05.42 | Grum | erm |
| 15:05.44 | Paddlok | or well |
| 15:05.46 | Paddlok | transfering |
| 15:05.50 | Paddlok | what ever its called |
| 15:05.51 | Thorgard | lol |
| 15:05.54 | Grum | you have the concepts downloading and uploading completely messed up >< |
| 15:06.12 | Grum | same with updating/importing and checkouts :D |
| 15:06.16 | Paddlok | :/ |
| 15:06.23 | Paddlok | I always thought import |
| 15:06.25 | Paddlok | means |
| 15:06.29 | Paddlok | bringing in |
| 15:06.48 | Paddlok | like your importing some beer from china or something |
| 15:06.48 | Grum | it is |
| 15:06.51 | Paddlok | if ya get me |
| 15:06.53 | Grum | importing INTO svn |
| 15:07.06 | Paddlok | aah right |
| 15:07.09 | Grum | you have to see it from SVN's perspective :) |
| 15:07.23 | Paddlok | ye |
| 15:07.27 | Paddlok | I get it now |
| 15:07.30 | Paddlok | One last question :) |
| 15:07.40 | Paddlok | Do I need to get threat 2.0 the same way? |
| 15:07.54 | Grum | no |
| 15:08.01 | Grum | unless you messed with the default install |
| 15:08.05 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r62980 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: 2.4 compat |
| 15:08.06 | Grum | it should be in Libs/Threat-2.0 |
| 15:08.15 | Grum | inside the Omen dir you just checked out |
| 15:08.27 | Paddlok | aah yep |
| 15:08.28 | Paddlok | there it is |
| 15:08.38 | Paddlok | <3 |
| 15:09.09 | Paddlok | How about bigwigs, is there the same type of updater |
| 15:09.20 | Paddlok | for the sunwell version of that? |
| 15:09.36 | NivFreak | looked like it was just in files |
| 15:09.40 | NivFreak | sunwell beta |
| 15:09.52 | Paddlok | kk |
| 15:09.57 | Paddlok | ty for info again :) |
| 15:10.08 | Paddlok | Doubt it will be much use for a few days tho I guess |
| 15:10.15 | Paddlok | Cus of the password screwups |
| 15:10.27 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 15:10.28 | NivFreak | so 7am |
| 15:10.30 | NivFreak | I'm still at work |
| 15:10.34 | NivFreak | and I have a 10am meeting |
| 15:10.39 | NivFreak | this is going to be a LONG 3 hours |
| 15:11.14 | *** join/#wowace ven_ (n=ven@i59F5ACE2.versanet.de) |
| 15:11.16 | Paddlok | cant you put a hat on and slop it over your head |
| 15:11.19 | Paddlok | and go to sleep? |
| 15:11.41 | NivFreak | I have an office, I could just sleep on the floor |
| 15:11.50 | NivFreak | but I probably wouldn't wake back up |
| 15:12.08 | Paddlok | heh |
| 15:12.38 | Paddlok | alarm @ phones ftw |
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| 15:15.18 | Chompers | how much shadow res gear do i need for BT? |
| 15:15.22 | Chompers | not sure how many set pieces i need to make |
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| 15:21.44 | Grum | Chompers: 375, so all of em |
| 15:21.48 | Grum | but make the pants last |
| 15:22.38 | Chompers | all of them are needed ? :< |
| 15:22.52 | Grum | yup |
| 15:22.56 | Chompers | oh man |
| 15:23.09 | FinalX | 5 resistance per level, level 73 -> 375 |
| 15:23.28 | Grum | well .. 'needed' - you can do it without pants but yeah .. higher == better and 375 is the cap |
| 15:23.52 | Grum | i am just curious, why are you figuring this stuff out yourself? :D |
| 15:23.52 | Ozguli` | why does one need the resistance? |
| 15:24.06 | FinalX | and the amount of the damage reduced is max 75% anyway |
| 15:24.08 | FinalX | so, yeah. |
| 15:24.09 | Chompers | mother i believe |
| 15:24.11 | Grum | Ozguli`: because of how blizzard made certain fights? |
| 15:24.20 | Chompers | and some MH boss |
| 15:24.21 | Ozguli` | so just some of them? |
| 15:24.49 | Ozguli` | and remember you'll have a priest anyway |
| 15:24.51 | Grum | 1 boss needs Shadow res and with 2 more its advisable |
| 15:24.52 | Ozguli` | +70 shadow res |
| 15:25.02 | Grum | Ozguli`: yes so you still need full gear |
| 15:25.03 | Chompers | pally aura too |
| 15:25.07 | Grum | doesnt stack |
| 15:25.09 | Chompers | and/or priest |
| 15:25.12 | Ozguli` | mm really? |
| 15:25.21 | FinalX | no, it doesnt stack |
| 15:25.22 | Ozguli` | thought the gear alone had the 375 resist |
| 15:25.28 | Grum | nope |
| 15:25.57 | Xinhuan | [2/26 23:25:08] <FinalX> 5 resistance per level, level 73 -> 375 |
| 15:26.00 | Xinhuan | fail at maths |
| 15:26.02 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 15:26.22 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=4;minrl=70;ub=5;cr=29;crs=1;crv=0 + 40 neck |
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| 15:26.38 | Ozguli` | that's just 365, mmm... |
| 15:26.47 | FinalX | yeah it is :p but 375 is max |
| 15:26.50 | Xinhuan | 365 is indeed the cap |
| 15:27.04 | Xinhuan | having more is only useful if the boss casts debuffs that reduce your resists |
| 15:27.22 | Grum | just 300 from gear |
| 15:27.25 | Ozguli` | druid buff, too, shouldn't be forgotten |
| 15:27.25 | FinalX | 365 is the cap level-wise :p |
| 15:27.38 | FinalX | dont think druid buff and priest buff stack either |
| 15:27.48 | Grum | they dont |
| 15:28.05 | Grum | i run with 385 normally |
| 15:28.15 | Grum | because of +15 enchant on back and +70 from priest |
| 15:28.48 | Paddlok | You dont need that much Grum tbh |
| 15:28.52 | Grum | anyhow, Chompers - why are you looking for it? |
| 15:28.57 | Paddlok | We usually run with most dps @ around 200 or so |
| 15:28.59 | Ozguli` | can't you get resistance on other items as well? |
| 15:29.00 | Grum | Paddlok: the whole guild has full resistance |
| 15:29.02 | Chompers | starting MH on wednesday |
| 15:29.04 | Chompers | want to be prepared |
| 15:29.15 | Grum | Chompers: the gear needs hearts of darkness |
| 15:29.19 | Grum | you dont get those yourself :) |
| 15:29.37 | Chompers | aye, but i want to know what type of resistant an average player needs |
| 15:29.46 | Grum | and by the time you get past RoS (in BT) you might start to think about resistance |
| 15:29.50 | Chompers | so i can plan out what ore/primals i need to farm |
| 15:30.09 | Paddlok | try past bloodboil |
| 15:30.20 | Grum | Paddlok: RoS is more of a cockblock |
| 15:30.25 | Paddlok | I think all these new people will have most trouble with boil rather than ros |
| 15:30.30 | Grum | if you dont have the right raid-setup .. bai! |
| 15:30.34 | Paddlok | ye |
| 15:30.36 | Chompers | a guild that started MH 2 weeks ago killed arci, is that normal :S |
| 15:30.41 | Paddlok | yes it is |
| 15:30.42 | Grum | yes that is 'normal' |
| 15:30.46 | Paddlok | mh is gimp |
| 15:30.47 | Chompers | it can't be that easy |
| 15:30.56 | Grum | easy? |
| 15:30.59 | Grum | lol .. no its not |
| 15:31.02 | Ozguli` | shield +5 all resistances, flask +25 all resistances and potion 3 min +50 all resistances |
| 15:31.10 | Paddlok | Only 'Hard' bosses are Boil, Ros and maby council |
| 15:31.14 | Chompers | ssc and tk took months and months to clear |
| 15:31.16 | Paddlok | if your people are slight tards |
| 15:31.27 | Grum | council is never hard |
| 15:31.30 | Chompers | well i'm fucked then |
| 15:31.35 | Grum | Akama .. ZOMG that one is harddd |
| 15:31.39 | Paddlok | ye |
| 15:31.39 | Paddlok | lol |
| 15:31.45 | Paddlok | Hardest in game imo |
| 15:31.46 | Paddlok | I mean |
| 15:31.50 | Grum | kek |
| 15:31.51 | Paddlok | Man |
| 15:32.01 | Grum | Paddlok: you will oneshot 6 bosses on the first night if you want |
| 15:32.03 | Paddlok | such imba rewards tho |
| 15:32.08 | Grum | its funsies |
| 15:32.15 | Chompers | after kael we started on ssc to clear for the people who didn't have vashj |
| 15:32.17 | Paddlok | You mean Chompers :p |
| 15:32.20 | Paddlok | I cleared bt months ago |
| 15:32.22 | Chompers | we wiped on hydross and lurker |
| 15:32.26 | Chompers | yay! |
| 15:32.31 | Grum | Paddlok: indeed kek |
| 15:32.34 | Paddlok | 13th in world to kill illidan :) |
| 15:32.49 | Grum | Paddlok: full t6 then i guess with all the odd items as well? |
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| 15:33.03 | Paddlok | well |
| 15:33.06 | Paddlok | Not all the odd items |
| 15:33.11 | Paddlok | I need that fucking sword from archi |
| 15:33.14 | Grum | kek |
| 15:33.25 | Paddlok | I cry |
| 15:33.26 | Chompers | tempest? |
| 15:33.29 | Paddlok | when I go to sleep |
| 15:33.32 | Paddlok | after the raid |
| 15:33.33 | CIA-9 | 03chuanhsing * r62981 10Proximo2/locals/localization-zhTW.lua: Proximo2: update zhTW (thanks forfan) |
| 15:33.34 | Paddlok | when it never drops |
| 15:33.44 | Grum | Chompers: you kill MH1-3 and BT1-3 within the first 3 raiding days |
| 15:33.59 | Chompers | that'll be nice after 2 solid weeks of kael |
| 15:34.05 | Paddlok | gorefiend is easy enough also |
| 15:34.15 | Paddlok | as long as you make macros |
| 15:34.22 | Grum | MH4 (Azgalor) is a slight pain in the ass as your healers can do with Shadowres |
| 15:34.22 | Paddlok | rather than have people clicking there pet bars |
| 15:34.30 | Grum | Paddlok: why? |
| 15:34.35 | Grum | clicking works fine |
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| 15:34.55 | Paddlok | Well |
| 15:34.58 | Paddlok | 9 times out of 10 |
| 15:35.06 | Paddlok | you will have someone who had there pet bars hidden |
| 15:35.15 | Grum | so that person fails in general |
| 15:35.19 | Paddlok | true |
| 15:35.30 | nevcairiel | petbars hidden isnt bad anymore |
| 15:35.41 | nevcairiel | mainbar switches to the possess bar now |
| 15:35.44 | Chompers | ctrl+1 right? |
| 15:35.53 | Grum | nevcairiel: i hope you mean 'as well' |
| 15:35.56 | Chompers | oh, never mind |
| 15:35.57 | Grum | and not 'only' |
| 15:36.15 | Grum | because that would fuck everyone over not using blizzard bars >< |
| 15:36.30 | nevcairiel | bad for them |
| 15:36.31 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:36.35 | Paddlok | macros are much easier |
| 15:36.39 | Grum | why? |
| 15:36.44 | nevcairiel | because people suck |
| 15:36.46 | nevcairiel | thats why :P |
| 15:36.50 | Paddlok | Basically lol |
| 15:36.51 | Grum | macros suck |
| 15:36.57 | Grum | because you need to place the buttons on your screen |
| 15:37.01 | Paddlok | its much easier to get your raid to make macros |
| 15:37.02 | Grum | popping up petbar > * |
| 15:37.02 | nevcairiel | on teron you just press 3-5 |
| 15:37.20 | Grum | nevcairiel: *IF* you have 3-5 assigned to the first bar .. yeah .. maybe |
| 15:37.20 | Paddlok | than to make sure that they all have there addons enabeling there pet bar |
| 15:37.29 | nevcairiel | Grum: if they dont, they fail |
| 15:37.30 | Paddlok | and that they know which ones to click |
| 15:37.36 | Paddlok | I mean being a warlock |
| 15:37.40 | Paddlok | Its kinda easy for me |
| 15:37.46 | Grum | nevcairiel: so anyone with barmods fail? :/ |
| 15:37.47 | Paddlok | All I need are 3 spells give or take anyway |
| 15:38.03 | genetik | i'm planning on making everyone in my guild steam tonks so that they learn how to use their pet bars |
| 15:38.07 | Paddlok | so I have so much free bar space to put in the macros anyway |
| 15:38.07 | genetik | heh |
| 15:38.09 | nevcairiel | Grum: i have 3-5 on my bar1 with bartender, anyone with bartender does, unless they explicitly changed it |
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| 15:38.28 | Grum | nevcairiel: i dont even show my barternder bar1 |
| 15:38.37 | Grum | so that will basicly fuck it up right? |
| 15:38.48 | Grum | and afaik, in 2.3.3 this change is not implemented? |
| 15:38.53 | Grum | i saw the petbar last time i went |
| 15:39.03 | nevcairiel | not if you still have the keys 3-5 bound to bar 1 |
| 15:39.06 | nevcairiel | visibility doesnt matter |
| 15:39.20 | nevcairiel | and you get petbar plus the change in the mainbar right now |
| 15:39.39 | Paddlok | never noticed that myself tbh |
| 15:39.46 | nevcairiel | its just easier to press 3 then to press CTRL-3 :P |
| 15:39.56 | Paddlok | if I had my macros set to 3 4 and 5 |
| 15:40.03 | Grum | <nevcairiel> and you get petbar plus the change in the mainbar right now <-- that is fine tbh |
| 15:40.03 | Paddlok | surely they would disapear then |
| 15:40.06 | Paddlok | which they dont |
| 15:40.26 | nevcairiel | Paddlok: you probably use either a outdated version of a bar addon, or one that doesnt support it |
| 15:40.53 | Paddlok | I update every day |
| 15:40.57 | Paddlok | Bartender 3 |
| 15:41.08 | Grum | BT3 sucks mahn! |
| 15:41.09 | nevcairiel | well then it'll definately switch |
| 15:41.17 | nevcairiel | get a steam tonk and see :D |
| 15:41.22 | Paddlok | <3 bartender 3 |
| 15:41.34 | Paddlok | with cycircled |
| 15:42.02 | Grum | nevcairiel: BT3 sucks right? ;D |
| 15:42.18 | nevcairiel | Grum: sure |
| 15:42.18 | Paddlok | well Tell me why it sucks |
| 15:42.30 | Paddlok | rather than just say it does |
| 15:42.52 | nevcairiel | grum is just a troll |
| 15:42.55 | Grum | yup |
| 15:43.04 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: bt3 sucks |
| 15:43.10 | nevcairiel | so is Josh_Borke :P |
| 15:43.11 | Grum | but i troll en-masse! |
| 15:43.49 | Josh_Borke | s/3// |
| 15:43.56 | Josh_Borke | /flex |
| 15:44.36 | Paddlok | s/3//? |
| 15:45.11 | Grum | l2regex |
| 15:45.24 | SunTsu | Paddlok: search and replace. Take "3" and replace it with nothing |
| 15:45.42 | Paddlok | s/// |
| 15:45.58 | break19 | life's a bitch. |
| 15:46.02 | break19 | s/bitch/beach/ |
| 15:46.18 | break19 | get it now? |
| 15:46.35 | Paddlok | give me a few minutes |
| 15:46.37 | Thorgard | no |
| 15:46.44 | Thorgard | s/no/yes |
| 15:46.51 | Thorgard | Damnit. |
| 15:46.52 | Thorgard | Fail |
| 15:46.57 | break19 | Thorgard: forgot the trailing / :) |
| 15:46.58 | SunTsu | ~fail Thorgard |
| 15:46.59 | purl | Thorgard: Fail. |
| 15:47.02 | Thorgard | s/Fail/Success/ |
| 15:47.02 | Paddlok | ok |
| 15:47.04 | Paddlok | I get it now |
| 15:47.06 | Thorgard | I know. ;P |
| 15:47.10 | Xinhuan | k i'm bored |
| 15:47.13 | Paddlok | I like cock |
| 15:47.16 | Paddlok | s/cock/coke |
| 15:47.22 | Thorgard | ;P |
| 15:47.25 | break19 | forgot the traling slash |
| 15:47.26 | Paddlok | like that |
| 15:47.29 | SunTsu | ~fail Paddlok |
| 15:47.29 | purl | Paddlok: Fail. |
| 15:47.32 | Paddlok | xD |
| 15:47.35 | Paddlok | s/cock/coke/ |
| 15:47.42 | Paddlok | yey |
| 15:47.54 | break19 | and someone put "<Thorgard> I like cock" in the topic please. |
| 15:47.57 | break19 | lol |
| 15:48.06 | Thorgard | Wait.. |
| 15:48.13 | break19 | paddlock |
| 15:48.14 | Thorgard | I never said that! |
| 15:48.44 | break19 | [9:47am] <Paddlok> I like cock |
| 15:48.46 | break19 | there |
| 15:48.50 | Paddlok | lol |
| 15:48.59 | Fisker- | Browser wars? |
| 15:49.06 | SunTsu | break19: Yes, s/Thorgard/Paddlok/ ;) |
| 15:49.17 | Paddlok | I concur |
| 15:49.29 | break19 | ah be |
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| 15:49.35 | break19 | ah be's hongruh |
| 15:49.43 | Paddlok | so who is pro with wow macros |
| 15:49.51 | break19 | your mom? |
| 15:49.55 | break19 | not me.. |
| 15:49.56 | Paddlok | I mean like uber hax0r l337 type pro |
| 15:50.11 | break19 | but its not like macro's are hard.. |
| 15:50.14 | Paddlok | is it possiable to make a macro |
| 15:50.18 | break19 | well yea |
| 15:50.27 | Paddlok | that when mass dispell Is pressed |
| 15:50.31 | Paddlok | that it waits 1.5 seconds |
| 15:50.35 | break19 | nope |
| 15:50.35 | Paddlok | (the cast time) |
| 15:50.42 | Paddlok | and then types in the chat |
| 15:50.49 | Paddlok | :( |
| 15:50.54 | break19 | macro's cant wait |
| 15:50.56 | break19 | period |
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| 15:53.53 | vithos | pretty sure i've seen an addon that implements /wait or something like that |
| 15:54.02 | vithos | but it's only usable for unprotected stuff like chat of course |
| 15:54.05 | break19 | cosmos has /in |
| 15:54.21 | Xinhuan | ace2 has /in |
| 15:54.40 | vithos | there you go. |
| 15:54.43 | break19 | used like /in 5 /say whee, and the macro continues to process. |
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| 15:55.00 | break19 | it wont stop the macro tho, it'll just wait 5s before executing that line |
| 15:55.34 | vithos | i think that'll do exactly what Paddlok was asking for though |
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| 15:56.10 | Xinhuan | ~wdn |
| 15:56.11 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 15:57.10 | Xinhuan | hmm new ptr patch |
| 15:57.14 | Xinhuan | wonder what it fixes |
| 15:57.38 | break19 | dispel macro for pallies : /castsequence [target=partymember1] Cleanse, [target=partymember2] Cleanse, etc. just press it 5 times |
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| 15:58.33 | qwesto | Paddlok, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4167-AfterCast.html might be of interest :) |
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| 15:58.52 | qwesto | if it still works? I dunno ^^ |
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| 16:01.50 | CIA-9 | 03gagorian * r62982 10DrDamage/Data/Warlock.lua: |
| 16:01.50 | CIA-9 | DrDamage: |
| 16:01.50 | CIA-9 | - zhCN possible fix for Ruin translation |
| 16:01.54 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can use [target] in /castsequence |
| 16:01.59 | nevcairiel | @break19 |
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| 16:02.20 | break19 | nevcairiel: hm... |
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| 16:03.38 | nevcairiel | however you can use the macrosequence addon by Coqwheel |
| 16:03.39 | nevcairiel | on wowi |
| 16:05.56 | kagaro_ | @break19 you cant change targets in a castsequence |
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| 16:16.28 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to get info from BigWigs if a boss fight is active? |
| 16:17.18 | Paddlok | like dbm? |
| 16:17.48 | [SW]Dodge | hm? |
| 16:17.52 | [SW]Dodge | dbm? |
| 16:17.53 | Daemona | who broke ora2? |
| 16:18.19 | nevcairiel | vhaarr probably :D |
| 16:18.45 | nevcairiel | whats broken? |
| 16:19.32 | Daemona | core.lua |
| 16:19.33 | Daemona | ;) |
| 16:19.40 | Daemona | sec, let me up a pastey |
| 16:19.41 | nevcairiel | you are soo helpful |
| 16:19.43 | nevcairiel | .. not |
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| 16:21.02 | Daemona | http://ace.pastey.net/82968 |
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| 16:23.21 | nevcairiel | thats a rather weird bug vhaarr introduced there, even seems care less :P |
| 16:23.35 | nevcairiel | he removed some lines, while the var is like used two lines later |
| 16:23.45 | Daemona | its a 'u' fault |
| 16:23.55 | Grum | ubug! |
| 16:24.00 | Grum | the new iBug! |
| 16:24.50 | kagaro_ | iBug .. rofl |
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| 16:27.27 | Grum | uBug has pebcak support! O.o |
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| 16:31.04 | genetik | heh.. the company i work for has the initials CFI. when we were developing our phone support details, we proposed that we call it CFI Care. |
| 16:31.18 | Thorgard | lawl |
| 16:31.33 | vhaarr | Daemona: oops |
| 16:31.43 | vhaarr | careless indeed |
| 16:31.52 | EvilJohn | nice |
| 16:32.15 | Daemona | uuuh CFI Care --- See if i care |
| 16:32.18 | Daemona | tahts evil |
| 16:32.20 | genetik | haha |
| 16:32.21 | genetik | yeah |
| 16:32.44 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 16:33.10 | genetik | our boss laughed, but said no :( |
| 16:34.22 | Grum | ;( |
| 16:34.46 | Grum | your boss failed |
| 16:34.49 | Fisker- | die Grum |
| 16:34.49 | Fisker- | DIE |
| 16:35.27 | Fisker- | cool |
| 16:37.19 | vhaarr | Daemona: fix inc |
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| 16:41.33 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r62983 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Optional/Version.lua): oRA2: Hopefully fixed the version check. |
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| 16:52.53 | break19 | genetik: CFI? trucking co? |
| 16:52.58 | genetik | no |
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| 16:53.11 | break19 | k. only cfi i know is the truckin co |
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| 16:54.35 | Firelemming | evening all |
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| 16:58.14 | phyber | is the PTR down or is login on the EU PTR just broken at the moment? |
| 16:58.28 | nevcairiel | we only know that you cant login |
| 16:58.31 | nevcairiel | why, we dont know |
| 16:58.39 | Chaud | Have US PTRs come back up? |
| 16:59.02 | phyber | I can't login because it tells me my password is wrong. which is incorrect, since i logged in with it a few moments prior to it downloading the new patch for me :p |
| 16:59.14 | phyber | unless "logging in" for a new patch is a gimmic and it gives it you regardless of login success. |
| 17:00.23 | Firelemming | trojan! |
| 17:00.26 | Firelemming | -.- |
| 17:00.27 | phyber | next time there is a patch, i'll fill the user/pass in with garbage to test that theory. |
| 17:00.39 | durcyn | you have to successfully auth to get the patch |
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| 17:01.44 | sb | no |
| 17:01.50 | sb | durcyn: you dont have to |
| 17:02.07 | Chaud | yup |
| 17:02.09 | sb | i usually log in with a / 123 to get new patches |
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| 17:02.11 | kenlyric | you do if you launch from wow.exe |
| 17:02.18 | sb | because i dont want to type my password every time :p |
| 17:02.18 | Chaud | checks version before auth |
| 17:02.31 | sb | you can enter what you want |
| 17:02.36 | kenlyric | does it do that without the launcher? |
| 17:02.44 | kenlyric | neat |
| 17:02.45 | Chaud | this game has a launcher? =p |
| 17:02.47 | vrak | i don't think i've ever had to properly auth to get the patch |
| 17:02.47 | sb | unless your client blocks the request (no password entered) |
| 17:03.20 | sb | you wanna learn that? go install WoW from cd and apply all patches :) |
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| 17:05.22 | charon | morning |
| 17:05.35 | phyber | this certainly puts a crimp on my coffee making plans anyway. I needed to stare at my Life Tap button to fill my kettle with tears. |
| 17:05.59 | Chompers | are there any alternatives to dotimer? |
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| 17:06.26 | sb | hm - you should wait for 2.4 :) |
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| 17:07.35 | elusif | banned and i can't get onto hotmail to find out why] |
| 17:07.46 | sb | banned on ptr? :P |
| 17:08.00 | elusif | ptr? |
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| 17:08.16 | SunTsu | Chompers: classtimer? |
| 17:08.52 | elusif | better not be a 72 hour ban |
| 17:08.56 | elusif | pisses me right fucking off |
| 17:09.08 | elusif | probably reported by some cunt muscle for saying fuck |
| 17:09.17 | kenlyric | maybe its permanent ;) |
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| 17:09.23 | kenlyric | it's |
| 17:09.37 | charon | wasn't there some equivalent of the bash 'alias' command in wow? i dimly remembered /alias but that didn't work... or am i thinking of an addon? |
| 17:09.54 | kenlyric | prat can do that |
| 17:09.55 | vithos | charon: Prat has/had a module for that |
| 17:09.57 | kenlyric | it's called up... |
| 17:10.14 | kenlyric | i forget |
| 17:10.26 | elusif | it says temporary ban |
| 17:10.26 | elusif | can any of you guys get onto hotmail? |
| 17:10.26 | elusif | www.hotmail.com |
| 17:10.26 | elusif | ? |
| 17:10.37 | nevcairiel | seems to be down |
| 17:10.42 | elusif | ffs |
| 17:10.52 | charon | vithos: thanks a bunch, precisely what i was looking for |
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| 17:11.03 | elusif | ty |
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| 17:13.10 | Worf | hmm ... when i try to open hotmail.com i only get a empty page with a questionable logo ... |
| 17:13.43 | Worf | i just wanted to see how it looks like so i can flame about it, but no... :) |
| 17:13.45 | vithos | i get "Service Unavailable" |
| 17:13.48 | ramoz | HM! |
| 17:13.56 | ramoz | a hunter just spawned 20+ crimson snakes |
| 17:14.20 | vithos | they didn't fix that yet? |
| 17:14.57 | elusif | ty guys |
| 17:14.59 | ramoz | fixed what? :O |
| 17:15.00 | SunTsu | did they fix that stats explosion? |
| 17:15.06 | vithos | people were doing that weeks ago, a bug with that dream vision elixir |
| 17:15.28 | vithos | spawning countless pets |
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| 17:17.43 | vithos | hey ckknight, are you aware of DogTags conflicting with other addons that autoinspect for talents on mouseover/the inspect frame itself |
| 17:18.02 | ckknight | hrm |
| 17:18.10 | ckknight | part of me isn't surprised |
| 17:18.24 | vithos | i sometimes get the wrong talent numbers on Proximo and such, or the wrong talents on Cowtip |
| 17:18.36 | Chaud | I hate that =( |
| 17:18.37 | vithos | or just in the inspect frame itself |
| 17:18.53 | phyber | that means part of you must be hugely surprised and need a lie down! take the free nap. |
| 17:19.07 | vithos | "why is this druid specced enhancement?" |
| 17:19.09 | Chaud | "That warrior is fury lol!?" - MSs me |
| 17:20.07 | sb | l2inspect buffs :p |
| 17:20.21 | vithos | yeah, i mean i'm not surprised either. probably need to make a library that other things can plug in to? |
| 17:20.27 | NivFreak | Chaud: I've had that happen |
| 17:20.58 | NivFreak | clearly we should ask blizzard to fix thier buggy bug |
| 17:21.16 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r62984 10/branches/mHud/ (5 files in 4 dirs): mHud: Default skin tweaks, fixed a template configuration error. |
| 17:21.35 | ckknight | DogTag plays pretty safe, though. Unless Proximo inspects at the same time on mouseover, it seems like it shouldn't |
| 17:21.41 | ckknight | in any event, I'll look into it |
| 17:21.47 | vithos | thanks |
| 17:22.30 | Chaud | So would it be a bad thing if I had the dog tag for their talent spec on my pitbull frame in arenas with proximo, and their talent data in my tooltips? |
| 17:22.41 | NivFreak | haha |
| 17:23.06 | Xinhuan | chuad, the issue is simple |
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| 17:23.25 | Elsia | heya |
| 17:23.33 | Xinhuan | if addon A requests for player X, then addon B requests for player Y's talents before X's talent is replied |
| 17:23.42 | Xinhuan | then when INSPECT_TALENT_READY fires off for X |
| 17:23.53 | Xinhuan | both addon A and B thinks its getting the data |
| 17:24.03 | vithos | i kinda just wish blizzard would implement arena unitid's or something |
| 17:24.08 | Xinhuan | and player's Y data gets thrown away when it fires |
| 17:24.15 | ckknight | vithos: guids in 2.4 |
| 17:24.43 | vithos | i mean so you don't have to try to mouseover everything at the beginning of the match |
| 17:24.45 | Xinhuan | so addon A will get X's talents correctly for X, and addon B will think Y has X's talents |
| 17:25.10 | Elsia | hmm my password for ptr doesn't work anymore :P |
| 17:25.12 | vithos | of course, it would be unfair to expose information about undetected stealthed players at the beginning |
| 17:25.21 | ckknight | okay, I think I got a solutio |
| 17:25.24 | Chaud | Would that cause proximo and the dogtags to all display the same incorrect talent? |
| 17:25.25 | ckknight | solution* |
| 17:26.13 | vithos | Chaud: one of them would be right, one would be wrong, i think |
| 17:26.30 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r62985 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Talent.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - securely hook _G.NotifyInspect so that other addons which call it don't mess up DogTag and allow DogTag to properly throttle inspects. |
| 17:26.31 | Stanzilla | Elsia: same here |
| 17:26.38 | ckknight | fixed, preliminarily |
| 17:27.03 | vithos | cool. i'll try to test the fix as soon as my realm is back up |
| 17:27.22 | Elsia | stan: must be a bug then |
| 17:27.32 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 17:27.32 | Chaud | =\ proximo, the tooltip, and unit frame all told me the warrior was fury |
| 17:27.34 | Elsia | lemme check if there are whines on the PTR forum ;) |
| 17:27.50 | Xinhuan | chaud the issue is many addons all try to do the same thing now |
| 17:28.06 | Xinhuan | you'll still get problems if you have more than 2 such addons |
| 17:28.43 | Chaud | well, it was proximo, and then dog tags in the tooltip/pitbull frame |
| 17:28.47 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r62986 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Talent.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - properly get the lastInspectName |
| 17:28.59 | Chaud | but for BGs I need the pitbull frame and mouseover |
| 17:29.04 | Xinhuan | yeah but other addons also inspect ppl |
| 17:29.11 | Xinhuan | such as Remembrance, xperl, etc |
| 17:29.13 | ckknight | vithos: really, the same thing should happen in Proximo |
| 17:29.19 | Chaud | examiner too? |
| 17:29.22 | ckknight | and other addons |
| 17:29.24 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 17:29.50 | Xinhuan | the talent reply from blizzard does not contain the name of the player |
| 17:29.54 | Xinhuan | that it belongs to |
| 17:30.18 | Xinhuan | since this is blizzard's UI, and their code only calls talent inspect in 1 place, its fine in default UI |
| 17:30.18 | ckknight | but you can capture it on NotifyInspect(unit) |
| 17:30.48 | vithos | oh xperl does it too? jeez |
| 17:30.51 | Xinhuan | yah, but if 2 addons both call NotifyInspect(unit), the reply order isn't specified i think |
| 17:31.03 | vithos | so i have examiner, dogtags, xperl, proximo |
| 17:31.19 | Xinhuan | ya, many tooltip addons and unitframes addons now add the ability |
| 17:31.34 | Xinhuan | remembrance does it by disabling the inspect frame |
| 17:31.51 | Xinhuan | then does its own query, then reenables it back after the query has a reply |
| 17:31.57 | vithos | if they all implemented the secure hook thing, they'd all still have to inspect sequentially still though right? |
| 17:32.03 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 17:32.36 | vithos | so i have to mouse over each player 5 times? |
| 17:32.40 | Elsia | stan: seem that's it's a account server issue really, blue is aware of it but no eta for fix: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2843819538&pageNo=1&sid=1#3 |
| 17:32.45 | Xinhuan | possibly, depending on implementation |
| 17:33.13 | vithos | that sounds almost worse than how things are now where mixups can happen |
| 17:33.21 | Xinhuan | calling notifyinspect() on something that isn't a player will generate no reply |
| 17:33.34 | Xinhuan | so a bad implementation can "stop all future talent inspecting" |
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| 17:33.49 | Xinhuan | if the addon continues to think "some other addon requested data, i dont' request mine first" |
| 17:34.22 | vithos | really sounds like everything needs to use a shared lib that does the actual datamining |
| 17:34.48 | Xinhuan | sounds more like blizzard needs to prevent datamining |
| 17:34.57 | vithos | especially with how little time you have to mouse over people in arena |
| 17:35.11 | vithos | if they rush you |
| 17:35.32 | nevcairiel | i thought you cant inspect in arenas at all? |
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| 17:36.03 | vithos | you can only get talents in arena, can't inspect gear/etc |
| 17:36.22 | nevcairiel | i guess thats just a oversight, and getting talents in arena is unintended too |
| 17:37.24 | vithos | i guess.. but how would they not know about it yet? they force rename hunter pets that have the same name as the hunter, the only thing that really breaks is Aloft and the various arena frame addons |
| 17:37.59 | Elsia | nah hunter pet names breaks /targetexact ;) |
| 17:38.00 | vithos | so i'd like to think they know what's going on |
| 17:38.19 | vithos | well yeah, but who uses /targetexact in pvp? |
| 17:38.27 | nevcairiel | all those addons |
| 17:38.32 | NivFreak | proximo etc |
| 17:38.39 | Maldivia | 90% of all arena users, since they use proximo, gladiator etc |
| 17:38.42 | vithos | i know that, but that's my point |
| 17:38.56 | vithos | only the addons that are also doing the talent mining |
| 17:39.06 | Elsia | basically it isn't the intended functionality that you can protect a player from targeting via a pet name, doesn't matter if you type it, macro it or UI it. |
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| 17:39.41 | vithos | though i guess you could say it breaks Recount, etc. too |
| 17:39.50 | Elsia | talent information is public, you can farm armory for it or sniff in major cities |
| 17:40.16 | nevcairiel | so is gear data |
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| 17:40.32 | Elsia | gear is more easily swappable though |
| 17:40.43 | Elsia | gear isn't really public in that people can refit quickly |
| 17:40.53 | nevcairiel | sure, but who cares about the gear people wear |
| 17:40.58 | nevcairiel | the talents are way more interesting |
| 17:41.08 | nevcairiel | in pvp anyway |
| 17:41.11 | vithos | resist gear lawl |
| 17:41.21 | vithos | and deciding who to focus |
| 17:41.33 | Elsia | well what I'm trying to say is that blizz has decided to allow knowing talents |
| 17:41.38 | nevcairiel | a trained arena player decides that on the looks of the gear :D |
| 17:42.06 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: even druids in cat/bear? :) |
| 17:42.16 | nevcairiel | meh noone focuses a feral anyway |
| 17:42.17 | vithos | i'd like to blame my 25ms LCD for not being able to identify gear in the heat of combat |
| 17:42.22 | Maldivia | (but then again, if you meet a feral druid, then you'll just laugh anyway) |
| 17:42.36 | durcyn | solution: remove arena from the game, solved. |
| 17:42.37 | Killmore | Elsia: thx for the no reset asked when there's no data |
| 17:42.48 | Elsia | kill: thanks for the suggestion |
| 17:42.58 | nevcairiel | i second that durcyn :P |
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| 17:43.23 | a[b]raxas | guys, my TinyTip is broken :( |
| 17:43.24 | durcyn | i swear, one more pve nerf because of bullshit "e-sport" whatever pvp balance, i'm going to have an aneurysm |
| 17:43.32 | Elsia | arenas are completely fixable: arena only gear and arena only talents/templates, all secret or uniform. |
| 17:43.53 | vithos | i don't see why they don't just have seperate "balance" in pvp than pve. they do it with diminishing returns but nothing else |
| 17:43.56 | a[b]raxas | who do I bitch at like a baby about that? |
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| 17:44.31 | nevcairiel | all that forced class balancing that destroys some classes just to please some crying wanabe "pro gamer" .. shush leave our pve game alone! |
| 17:44.53 | durcyn | seriously, it's like they're trying to turn it in to first-person starcraft just to get the koreans to play or something |
| 17:46.08 | Josh_Borke | what are you bitching about? |
| 17:46.16 | nevcairiel | you |
| 17:46.20 | durcyn | pve nerfs to sate arena whiners, Josh_Borke |
| 17:46.25 | vithos | i enjoy both arena and raiding, but yeah, they need to get a clue |
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| 17:46.29 | vithos | lol@water in 2.4 |
| 17:46.41 | Josh_Borke | what change? |
| 17:46.56 | a[b]raxas | Josh_Borke: My TinyTip stopped working :/ |
| 17:47.18 | a[b]raxas | its a colorless box in the bottom right corner of my screen and it looks awful |
| 17:47.40 | Josh_Borke | i'm sorry |
| 17:47.42 | Josh_Borke | revert |
| 17:47.58 | a[b]raxas | is that possible with the updater? |
| 17:47.59 | sb | vithos: hmm? |
| 17:48.00 | Josh_Borke | wait, wait |
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| 17:48.03 | a[b]raxas | mkay |
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| 17:48.10 | Josh_Borke | disable all mods and delete your WTF folder |
| 17:48.12 | vithos | sb: you don't know about the water nerf? |
| 17:48.13 | Josh_Borke | that will fix it! |
| 17:48.17 | a[b]raxas | ho boy |
| 17:48.20 | a[b]raxas | are you a GM by chance |
| 17:48.21 | a[b]raxas | :V |
| 17:48.37 | Primer | what water nerf? |
| 17:48.38 | Josh_Borke | http://files.wowace.com/TinyTip/ |
| 17:48.40 | Josh_Borke | try one of those |
| 17:48.44 | nevcairiel | a[b]raxas: you need to get TinyTipBasic and TinyTipPositioning |
| 17:48.46 | vithos | the regen provided by water will no longer be "constant". it will ramp up slowly over time |
| 17:48.49 | Josh_Borke | ooo, oo,o, i know about that |
| 17:48.51 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 17:48.52 | vithos | so if you drink for a few seconds, you get practically nothing |
| 17:49.01 | a[b]raxas | thanks Josh_Borke |
| 17:49.07 | Primer | well, that sucks |
| 17:49.07 | a[b]raxas | nevcairiel: is that new? |
| 17:49.11 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:49.14 | a[b]raxas | goddamn what the hell is wrong with my nick complete |
| 17:49.18 | a[b]raxas | ohh, thankyou! |
| 17:49.26 | Josh_Borke | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 17:49.34 | `Zypher | eww |
| 17:49.40 | `Zypher | http://worldofraids.com |
| 17:49.49 | a[b]raxas | nevcairiel: how about tinytiptargets? |
| 17:50.07 | Primer | speaking of water, a funny thing happened during a lurker fight the other day. Our guild leader now has a Shaman, and during spout he cast water walking on one of our more annoying guild members |
| 17:50.28 | `Zypher | lol |
| 17:50.28 | Primer | "I must have lagged out or something" was his response |
| 17:50.32 | keiss | wtb ring of harmonic beauty |
| 17:50.48 | Primer | s/response/excuse/ |
| 17:50.49 | `Zypher | we had a warrior survive a spout not sure how |
| 17:51.04 | Primer | I've survived spout on my lock |
| 17:51.09 | `Zypher | howsky? |
| 17:51.10 | Primer | just didn't survive the swim back |
| 17:51.17 | Primer | heh |
| 17:51.25 | `Zypher | ah |
| 17:51.33 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62987 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added a delay mechanism for script loading |
| 17:51.33 | Primer | was very close to making it though |
| 17:52.17 | nevcairiel | thrae really needs to finis´h TinyTipOptions before he commits his stuff :P |
| 17:52.29 | `Zypher | rawr kgPanels! |
| 17:52.55 | elusif | i think i know why i was banned |
| 17:53.03 | keiss | vithos: they changed it to 1st tick = nothing , 2nd tick = 166% , 3rd tick = 133% , .... so no big difference for pve |
| 17:53.06 | `Zypher | elusif: from? |
| 17:53.15 | a[b]raxas | nevcairiel: thanks a lot.. it almost works now. But it's good for now |
| 17:53.22 | elusif | i had been using alot of /emote pickpockets you for (random variable)s (random variable)c |
| 17:53.26 | elusif | . |
| 17:53.31 | elusif | from wow |
| 17:53.34 | `Zypher | ic |
| 17:53.41 | elusif | lots of people said they were reporting me |
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| 17:53.49 | elusif | those foolish enough to fall for the emote |
| 17:53.54 | elusif | i didn't think blizz would care |
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| 17:54.22 | Primer | but they did? |
| 17:54.25 | vithos | keiss: oh, really? i guess that's fine then. i just know the last time i tried to drink on the PTR it was a complete joke |
| 17:54.33 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r62988 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added an OnClick script handler DRYCODE |
| 17:54.52 | keiss | vithos: thats what Drysc said ... i haven't tried it thou |
| 17:55.01 | `Zypher | must try this kgPanels |
| 17:55.10 | vithos | maybe they haven't got it working how they want yet, but that's good news if that's their intention |
| 17:55.47 | Primer | so how soon will this patch go live? I'm hoping they delay it more...I need more badges |
| 17:56.02 | keiss | 2months ? |
| 17:56.03 | elusif | Primer: looks like it, i've a temp ban but i can't get into hotmail to see why becauise it's down |
| 17:56.08 | nevcairiel | man someone should shoot thrae for commiting broken code again :P |
| 17:56.25 | elusif | i can see from msn messenger though i have two emails one from yesterday from wowaccountreview@**.** |
| 17:56.34 | elusif | and one today with the subject temp suspension |
| 17:56.47 | elusif | can't read them from messenger though :( |
| 17:56.49 | EvilJohn | that sounds bad |
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| 17:57.19 | elusif | ì got a warning about wallclimbing in wsg a few days ago |
| 17:57.25 | elusif | but haven't wall climbed since |
| 17:57.27 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r62989 10DaPortrait/Config.lua: |
| 17:57.27 | CIA-9 | DaPortrait: |
| 17:57.27 | CIA-9 | - Updated FAQ |
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| 17:57.29 | elusif | :( |
| 17:57.44 | Obelixprime | is there still dorje's healing cast bar addon? |
| 17:58.34 | Primer | elusif: not like you were saying anything that violates the terms. |
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| 17:59.02 | Primer | I hate how they feel that they have to protect everyone from every tiny little thing |
| 17:59.30 | vithos | they only want to protect themselves |
| 17:59.39 | Primer | I can understand how they want to protect kids from stuff |
| 17:59.41 | vithos | this is america, land of the lawsuits |
| 17:59.43 | xyu | i doubt you could get a suspension for /emotes though |
| 17:59.45 | Primer | I have a 9 year old son that plays |
| 17:59.49 | xyu | I dont' think blizzard is that retarded |
| 17:59.59 | Maldivia | I highly doubt that emote would cause a suspension... it's called role playing as a rogue... |
| 18:00.07 | Primer | once in WSG he picked up the speed thing on his level 19 hunter and some rogue called him a "faget" |
| 18:00.14 | Primer | and I told him I'd report him |
| 18:00.23 | Primer | and he said to turn on profanity filter |
| 18:00.29 | Primer | and I told him to l2spell |
| 18:00.35 | keiss | haha |
| 18:01.23 | Primer | profanity filter was already turned on...but it doesn't seem to pick up "faget" |
| 18:01.24 | xyu | well to be honost, faget is a city on romania, so maybe he just called him |
| 18:01.27 | xyu | a city in romania |
| 18:02.26 | Primer | BTW, anyone have a twink 19 rogue? My son's making a rogue too and I'd like to help him make it the best it can be |
| 18:02.45 | Primer | his 19 hunter is too close to 20 to get that last piece of defias armor...the chest piece |
| 18:03.17 | Benumbed | isnt the quest piece better than the drop? |
| 18:03.30 | kenlyric | so close that killing one mob would put him over? |
| 18:03.55 | Primer | not sure. Last time I checked he was over 95% |
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| 18:04.02 | kenlyric | ah. |
| 18:04.15 | Xinhuan | party with many lvl 70s |
| 18:04.21 | Primer | I wish I had gotten him a separate account |
| 18:04.21 | Xinhuan | and have the lvl 70 kill the mob |
| 18:04.27 | xyu | make it a raid too |
| 18:04.31 | Benumbed | or reroll it =x |
| 18:04.32 | Primer | yeah, that'd be the plan |
| 18:04.37 | Xinhuan | the lowbie should get like 1 or 2 exp |
| 18:04.37 | Primer | xyu: ohhh good idea |
| 18:04.43 | Benumbed | and do the quest =P |
| 18:04.49 | qwesto | party with a 70, die at mob, kill mob, loot => no xp :) |
| 18:05.02 | qwesto | with grouploot that is :) |
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| 18:06.07 | Primer | I just love how the Ajax on wowarmory is able to dealock the UI in firefox |
| 18:06.19 | xyu | http://www.wowwiki.com/Rogue_twinking_guide |
| 18:06.22 | Primer | Benumbed: btw, what quest? |
| 18:06.22 | EvilJohn | yeah, wowarmory needs some serious help |
| 18:06.28 | Primer | xyu: excellent! thanks a lot |
| 18:06.35 | EvilJohn | i've taken to opening wowarmory links in IE so it doesn't kill my work browser |
| 18:06.38 | Dashkal | Primer: I managed to harlock X thanks to that site... wonder how FF did that |
| 18:06.41 | Benumbed | the long quest, where you have to escort the defias guy, after killing the messenger |
| 18:06.48 | Dashkal | s/harlock/hardlock/ |
| 18:06.53 | Primer | eviljohn: unfortunately I'm in Linux |
| 18:06.58 | Benumbed | end of quest is leather chest |
| 18:07.04 | Benumbed | better than the drop off VC |
| 18:07.06 | keiss | sucks in Opera too |
| 18:07.09 | Primer | or is that "fortunately"? :) |
| 18:07.11 | EvilJohn | yeah, try it in opera |
| 18:07.12 | EvilJohn | but anyway |
| 18:07.13 | Xinhuan | do you know that the blizzard armory FAQ says "best viewed with Firefox"? |
| 18:07.14 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 18:07.19 | EvilJohn | wowarmoy is so much ass |
| 18:07.32 | Benumbed | armory doesnt even work with firefox |
| 18:07.35 | xyu | armorylite is down :( |
| 18:07.35 | Dashkal | warcrafter... theorycraft and armory all in one :p |
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| 18:07.38 | Benumbed | they are so retarded |
| 18:07.42 | EvilJohn | it works with firefox |
| 18:07.48 | Benumbed | well not with the beta |
| 18:07.49 | JakeM | I use Armory with FF every day |
| 18:07.52 | Primer | The Armory is currently experiencing an extremely high level of traffic which may affect its response time. |
| 18:07.55 | Primer | same here |
| 18:07.56 | EvilJohn | but when it gets slow, you have to wait for all the ajex requests |
| 18:07.56 | JakeM | FFb3 |
| 18:08.00 | EvilJohn | ajax |
| 18:08.01 | Benumbed | it wont load the hoverovers |
| 18:08.16 | Primer | that's because that's loaded on-deman |
| 18:08.19 | Primer | d |
| 18:08.41 | Benumbed | yeah which makes me have to open IE, cause all i go there for |
| 18:08.43 | Benumbed | is those |
| 18:08.49 | vithos | wowarmory makes me want to fastforward the internet to when Cross-Site XMLHttpRequest is possible |
| 18:08.54 | JakeM | IE7 isn't that bad, anyway |
| 18:08.59 | Primer | yes it is |
| 18:09.17 | Benumbed | yeah I like IE7, just use firefox for watching movies |
| 18:09.37 | JakeM | vithos: Cross-site XMLHttpRequest probably won't ever be possible. |
| 18:09.42 | qwesto | Benumbed, Westfall Tunic vs Blackened Defias Chest is a tossup, one is for more stam the other for more agi :) |
| 18:09.51 | JakeM | At the rate things are going, everything is going to get replaced by a proprietary platform. |
| 18:09.55 | vithos | JakeM: FF3 supports it |
| 18:10.06 | JakeM | I phrased that poorly. |
| 18:10.08 | Benumbed | yeah for hunter/rogue, the westfall would be better imo |
| 18:10.13 | JakeM | It's a really, really, /really/ bad idea. |
| 18:10.14 | Benumbed | shrug, i choose it |
| 18:10.24 | vithos | why is it a bad idea? |
| 18:10.31 | JakeM | The security model is just non-existent. |
| 18:10.44 | JakeM | Any time you have cross-site AJAX, there's no data protection at all. |
| 18:10.44 | qwesto | heh, best would probably getting both, Defias with 100 hp and Tunic with 4 all stats ^^ |
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| 18:10.49 | Dashkal | Is there a way to get mobhealth to cough up the HP it believes a unit has after the fact? Thinking after an arena match |
| 18:10.52 | JakeM | Anything that is available in one site is available in the other. |
| 18:11.08 | vithos | JakeM: it requires an Access-Control header, that has white/blacklisting of access based on domain |
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| 18:11.39 | vithos | so by default, it will be disabled |
| 18:12.20 | EvilJohn | Cross-site XMLHttpRequest will be the greatest security debacle of all time |
| 18:12.37 | JakeM | It's one of my biggest nightmares as a developer. |
| 18:13.03 | vithos | if you're so afraid of it, don't enabled it on your sites, problem solved? |
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| 18:14.00 | JakeM | I don't |
| 18:14.07 | JakeM | Because there are better data export methods. |
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| 18:14.25 | Fisker- | It's Fx not FF |
| 18:19.06 | xyu | some servers are up |
| 18:19.13 | xyu | (for you US peeps) |
| 18:19.19 | vithos | thanks |
| 18:19.25 | Fisker- | ptr up yet? |
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| 18:47.07 | Gnarfoz | anyone here from South Africa (I guess) who can tell me what "slapgatte" means? |
| 18:50.11 | Xinhuan | google? |
| 18:50.30 | Gnarfoz | no? why else would I ask here ;P |
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| 18:50.56 | Gnarfoz | seems like some kind of dutch, or rather, Afrikaans slang/colloquial term or something |
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| 18:56.23 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r62992 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: slap vhaarr |
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| 18:59.00 | vithos | seems that BugSack's dependencies aren't set up in such a way that WAU autoinstalls !BugGrabber |
| 19:02.03 | NeoTron | so they are changing Lifetap again |
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| 19:02.20 | NeoTron | not unexpected considering the 145 page feedback thread |
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| 19:03.12 | xyu | mages need to band together! and QQ like never before! |
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| 19:03.19 | xyu | demand rolling ignites or some sort of dps boost |
| 19:03.40 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow * r62993 10Chinchilla/locale/frFR.lua: Chinchilla: frFR Update |
| 19:03.55 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: if I'm not mistaking slapgatte means bitch :unsure: |
| 19:03.57 | NeoTron | mages who got pretty much only buffs in this patch? qq moar! |
| 19:04.10 | NeoTron | but yes it is an impressive accomplishment |
| 19:04.19 | NeoTron | rarely see that long threads |
| 19:04.20 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: nah, that doesn't fit the context the pages google spits out have it in |
| 19:04.34 | xyu | what buffs! |
| 19:04.37 | cncfanatics | whats the context Gnarfoz ? |
| 19:04.38 | Gnarfoz | something like "worthless" or "weak" ... youth? or people in general? |
| 19:04.45 | xyu | "Bloodlust is no longer stackable w/ icy veigns" that buff? |
| 19:04.50 | xyu | veins* |
| 19:05.07 | NeoTron | xyu: that is a burst damage moderator |
| 19:05.11 | NeoTron | it doesn't nerf sustained dps |
| 19:05.48 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: the context the google results have it in is something like "well, no wonder worthless slapgatte like them can't solve this problem" or something like that |
| 19:05.51 | NeoTron | mostly, admittedly, pvp buffs |
| 19:05.56 | NeoTron | most recently "Arctic reach now increases Ice Lance along with Frostbolt and Blizzard." |
| 19:06.07 | xyu | who care about pvp, we were fine in pvp |
| 19:06.21 | xyu | when warlocks can easily out dps mages w/o really trying |
| 19:06.22 | NeoTron | icy veins making you non-interruptable |
| 19:06.25 | xyu | something wrong |
| 19:06.28 | NeoTron | cheap blink |
| 19:06.35 | xyu | still all pvp stuff |
| 19:06.47 | NeoTron | slow and spellsteal too |
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| 19:06.51 | NeoTron | both which can have uses in pve |
| 19:06.58 | xyu | when? |
| 19:06.59 | xyu | RoS? lol |
| 19:07.08 | xyu | maybe some ZA |
| 19:07.10 | xyu | 3 pulls |
| 19:07.15 | NeoTron | Vashj |
| 19:07.20 | NeoTron | slow that is |
| 19:07.28 | NeoTron | as I said mainly pvp buffs |
| 19:07.39 | NeoTron | mages are fine in pve (can do comparable DPS to any other class) |
| 19:07.48 | xyu | wrong, we can't compete w/ warlocks |
| 19:07.55 | xyu | which just isn't right in my opinion. |
| 19:08.00 | NeoTron | I've seen mages compete with warlocks |
| 19:08.00 | xyu | as warlocks bring so much more to a raid |
| 19:08.05 | NeoTron | right |
| 19:08.06 | NeoTron | like sheep |
| 19:08.13 | NeoTron | and arcane intellect |
| 19:08.17 | Wogroipl_ | int buffs! |
| 19:08.20 | NeoTron | and amplify magic |
| 19:08.22 | xyu | ok |
| 19:08.23 | xyu | bring 1 mage |
| 19:08.26 | xyu | you have all of that |
| 19:08.36 | NeoTron | locks bring banish and health stones |
| 19:08.39 | xyu | no reason to bring more than 1 mage |
| 19:08.42 | NeoTron | and a 5 minute wipe recovery buff |
| 19:08.44 | xyu | and imp ISB |
| 19:08.45 | xyu | and curses |
| 19:08.57 | NeoTron | imp ISB might se the nerf back |
| 19:09.07 | Firelemming | cncfanatics: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slapgat |
| 19:09.08 | xyu | nah we'll see about that |
| 19:09.16 | NeoTron | but today it helps the 1-2 shadow priests - locks would be better off w/o raid-wise ISB for themself |
| 19:09.39 | YourMomsHero | does anyone know if bartender lets you set keybindings for the petbar? I'm not seeing it in the key bindings list, i'm assuming I just would have to put those abilities on a different bar or something? |
| 19:09.54 | NeoTron | needless to say both classes bring things to raids and I really wouldn't want to go with less than 2 mages ever |
| 19:09.59 | NeoTron | often 3 is nice when learning new trash |
| 19:10.04 | xyu | and yet, be honost. end geared warlocks vs end geared mages. |
| 19:10.06 | xyu | warlocks win hand down |
| 19:10.08 | xyu | no contest |
| 19:10.15 | xyu | you may see 1 mage get some fluke crit rating |
| 19:10.20 | NeoTron | I have seen WWS reports of plenty of "contest" |
| 19:10.20 | xyu | and say "see! they compete" |
| 19:10.52 | xyu | then their locks are bad |
| 19:10.54 | NeoTron | it is, and I won't deny this, harder to be a competetive mage |
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| 19:11.19 | xyu | i'm not asking to edge out locks or anything, just make us more competitive. something small |
| 19:11.42 | NeoTron | our mages beat or at least intermix with warlocks for hyjal trash Aoe DPS |
| 19:11.48 | NeoTron | often taking the top spot(s) |
| 19:11.49 | xyu | but taking bloodlust away from icy is a nerf imo :( |
| 19:11.58 | NeoTron | it's not a sustained DPS nerf |
| 19:12.05 | xyu | a lot of our dps came from stacking cooldowns |
| 19:12.08 | xyu | + molten fury |
| 19:12.08 | NeoTron | it's a burst dps nerf - it was too powerful for pvp to get 50% haste |
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| 19:12.44 | NeoTron | icy veins is still a really nice spell |
| 19:13.38 | xyu | What are they doing to spirit in 2.4? someone said something about a mage spirit change, but i don't recall waht it was |
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| 19:14.22 | cncfanatics | spirit regen will scale with ur int, xyu |
| 19:14.49 | cncfanatics | I think its a stupid change that makes int way better then spi, but well |
| 19:14.49 | NeoTron | you get a lot more regen |
| 19:15.07 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: right because more mana is bad amirite? |
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| 19:15.32 | xyu | So that makes spirit itemized on weapons even worse? |
| 19:15.35 | NeoTron | it's a free carrot, can't really complain |
| 19:15.42 | xyu | er armor * |
| 19:15.46 | nevcairiel | both spirit and int are still valuable |
| 19:15.52 | NeoTron | it improves the benefit of spirit. |
| 19:15.55 | nevcairiel | if you dont have spirit, you dont get the benefit from it |
| 19:16.05 | nevcairiel | if you dont have int, you dont get the new benefit |
| 19:16.08 | xyu | well, now maybe i want my old evocate back. |
| 19:16.09 | NeoTron | for all classes but... warlocks |
| 19:16.32 | NeoTron | if mana is a reason for lower DPS, take mage armor and reap the benefit |
| 19:16.38 | NeoTron | if you don't run OOM, don't use it ofc |
| 19:16.49 | NeoTron | isn't there an arcane meditation talent too? |
| 19:17.21 | xyu | not in a raiding build |
| 19:17.22 | NeoTron | unless... you're arcane |
| 19:17.22 | xyu | if you're arcane then you shouldn't be raiding :) |
| 19:17.26 | NeoTron | 40/0/21 seems to be the 2.4 dream build |
| 19:17.26 | xyu | harhar! |
| 19:17.30 | xyu | yeah |
| 19:17.32 | xyu | 2.4 might change it |
| 19:17.33 | NeoTron | according to Elitist Jerks theory crafting |
| 19:17.41 | xyu | because we can have 2 piece T5 and 4p T6 |
| 19:17.47 | NeoTron | yep |
| 19:17.52 | sb | Antiarc: do you still have those omen2 screenshots? |
| 19:18.23 | NeoTron | we just got our first 4pc t6 mage |
| 19:18.26 | xyu | we shall see. personally i hated arcane but if it's what we have to do, i'll do it. |
| 19:18.44 | xyu | i got 1 piece, i'm saving the rest for th sunwell's T6 |
| 19:18.49 | xyu | as they roxor |
| 19:18.50 | Firelemming | im in ZA/kara gear and using 40/0/21, and fire mages cant keep up with me, 1200 dps |
| 19:19.20 | xyu | Firelemming: that just means those firemages are doing something wrong ^^ |
| 19:19.30 | kd3 | ^ |
| 19:19.31 | xyu | i had an arcane mage say the same thing |
| 19:19.35 | xyu | then he gave me his WWS |
| 19:19.43 | xyu | and he was casting 200 more fireballs than his fellow mages |
| 19:19.44 | xyu | i laughed |
| 19:19.56 | Firelemming | maybe, maybe not, but i still like my dps :) |
| 19:20.08 | Firelemming | im not going back to fire for a long time :) |
| 19:20.09 | xyu | have you tried fire though? |
| 19:20.24 | Firelemming | yes, i had 900-1000 dps with that spec |
| 19:20.32 | kd3 | were you keeping scorch up? |
| 19:20.34 | xyu | did you cap your hit rating? |
| 19:20.39 | Firelemming | always, and yes |
| 19:20.40 | xyu | can't keep the same gear |
| 19:21.09 | Firelemming | its not that hard to cap hit |
| 19:21.27 | NeoTron | the difficulty with t6 gear is not having too much hit |
| 19:21.30 | xyu | oh well, i won't try to change your mind. just play wha'ts fun. you obviously play arcane better |
| 19:21.31 | xyu | than you play fire |
| 19:21.51 | xyu | Sunwell will change all of that. like NO pieces have hit haha |
| 19:21.59 | xyu | i hope that +50 hit staff is real. |
| 19:22.01 | Firelemming | well, activating all the powers in this spec is awesome :) |
| 19:22.25 | NeoTron | I really fricking want the trinket to drop of illidan |
| 19:22.38 | Firelemming | always fun to pull agro on trash and ice block and see the lock die :) |
| 19:22.41 | xyu | yeah that's a hot item |
| 19:22.49 | xyu | that and illidari cloak |
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| 19:22.55 | xyu | are probably going to drop some major dkp on |
| 19:23.04 | NeoTron | I'd only want that cloak if I went fire |
| 19:23.13 | NeoTron | but I doubt 2.4 will make fire viable enough |
| 19:23.16 | xyu | is fire viable 2.4? |
| 19:23.18 | xyu | oh |
| 19:23.20 | xyu | i didn't think so either |
| 19:23.41 | Firelemming | big changes? need to take a look at again at 2.4 :P |
| 19:23.55 | NeoTron | they buffed incincerate |
| 19:24.01 | NeoTron | 20% extra haste |
| 19:24.03 | NeoTron | 10% |
| 19:24.29 | NeoTron | it's hard to test it in a dr.boom environment due to randomness of crit and stuff |
| 19:24.45 | NeoTron | primarily depending on immolate is annoying :P |
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| 19:26.32 | xyu | hmm my sword is being changed. i wonder if i like it. |
| 19:26.35 | xyu | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/bladeoftwistedvisions.jpg |
| 19:27.33 | Aeyan | Hmm.... No sir, I don't like it. |
| 19:27.49 | Aeyan | Oh, wait, left is the change |
| 19:27.57 | Aeyan | Nix previous statement |
| 19:28.03 | NeoTron | it's a buff because they added the stamina |
| 19:28.09 | NeoTron | dps-wise it's pretty darn similar |
| 19:28.12 | xyu | i didn't really need the stamina |
| 19:28.26 | NeoTron | stamina is always needed |
| 19:28.38 | xyu | for what? |
| 19:28.39 | NeoTron | I have >12k health and have at times lived with 100 hp left |
| 19:28.56 | xyu | i'll just block if it comes down to that |
| 19:28.57 | NivFreak | I have 16500 health unbuffed |
| 19:28.59 | NeoTron | of course I don't have ice block |
| 19:29.01 | NivFreak | and I hit 1hp in ZA |
| 19:29.06 | NivFreak | this week |
| 19:29.07 | NivFreak | =x |
| 19:29.11 | NeoTron | or blink or any other escape mechanic |
| 19:29.27 | NeoTron | but never the less, stamina = good regardless |
| 19:29.30 | xyu | well i've lived all fights up to illidan (haven't tried illidan yet) so i'm doing alright |
| 19:29.35 | xyu | with my 9300 hp buffed |
| 19:29.36 | xyu | hehe |
| 19:29.51 | NeoTron | it's not that you constantly would die |
| 19:30.02 | NeoTron | it's that you somewhat lessen the chance that you would |
| 19:30.17 | xyu | RoS gets me down to like 300 before she fixates something else. That can be scary |
| 19:30.27 | Gnarfoz | can you walk on SSC water without any bosses dead, as long as you don't break the surface? |
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| 19:30.44 | NeoTron | I believe so |
| 19:31.28 | Ironhand | I've just gotten this error in a raid: "Interface\Addons\oRA2\Core.lua:599: attempt to index global 'u' (a nil value)" |
| 19:31.36 | Gnarfoz | hm, that explains this weird "get to vashj without killing the other 5 bosses" exploit video - but... she doesn't spawn unless all 5 are dead o_O |
| 19:31.41 | Ironhand | it seems to have appeared with the latest WAU update... is this a known problem? |
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| 19:32.22 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: except you in 2.4 can just go to vashj before anything else is dead |
| 19:32.34 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: yes, but that wasn't the point ;) |
| 19:32.56 | NeoTron | and afaik the only thing killing other bosses do is to enable you to use the bridge |
| 19:33.02 | NeoTron | she's always there |
| 19:33.13 | xyu | oh shit, spellfire robe is pretty hard to make now. i better start collecting shadowcloth :( |
| 19:33.19 | Gnarfoz | she's not there before you kill all 5, they changed that |
| 19:33.21 | xyu | just when i thought i had all the mats! |
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| 19:33.52 | NeoTron | xyu: `spellfire? you mean sunfire I presume? |
| 19:33.58 | xyu | oops yea |
| 19:34.14 | xyu | guess i could just respec shadowcloth |
| 19:34.17 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: our first time in there she defintetly was. long time ago for sure but ppl mind visioned her |
| 19:34.27 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: see "long time ago" :) |
| 19:34.41 | NeoTron | so the video is old |
| 19:35.07 | Gnarfoz | no, it's new and it says "works in live 2.3.3" |
| 19:35.28 | Gnarfoz | but: doesn't show Vashj in it, so... not convinced |
| 19:35.48 | Gnarfoz | yet again, though, I fail to find the change about Vashj not spawning in any patch notes :< |
| 19:40.29 | aestil | NeoTron: agreed. |
| 19:40.32 | aestil | we used to mouse over her. |
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| 19:43.35 | xyu | so i'm in my LFG heroic daily on my hunter. the list is 3 shamsn, 1 lock, 1 rogue, 9 hunters, 1 mage. -_-;;; |
| 19:48.48 | Primer | must be a well populated realm |
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| 19:49.33 | xyu | of hunters >< |
| 19:50.34 | Chambrln | lol |
| 19:52.36 | Killmore | ckknight: i didnt change anything on cowtip config but since today I cant see spec on mouse over :( |
| 19:52.48 | ckknight | do you use Proximo? |
| 19:53.30 | Killmore | yes |
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| 19:54.01 | ckknight | try without and tell me what happens |
| 19:54.15 | Killmore | k |
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| 19:55.19 | Killmore | now its working |
| 19:55.50 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:56.00 | ckknight | they both use inspection |
| 19:56.22 | ckknight | if Proximo or DogTag has inspected in the past 15 seconds, DogTag won't inspect |
| 19:57.16 | Killmore | but I was not in arena, proximo inspec even if im not in arena ? |
| 19:57.37 | ckknight | not sure the internals of Proximo |
| 20:01.08 | Sh[a]na | Is there an option for ArkInventory to returns it to a 1-lined title bar? i just updated it and it it displays the icons in the title bar over two rows instead of one, and i dont really like that |
| 20:03.07 | Dashkal | ooo, that'd be nice. I wasn't too thrilled myself when it did the two-line thing |
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| 20:10.20 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: err, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose Proximo uses inspection for? |
| 20:10.46 | ckknight | doesn't what? |
| 20:11.21 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow * r62994 10Routes/Locales/Locale-frFR.lua: Routes: frFR Update |
| 20:11.33 | Gnarfoz | not inspecting, if it inspected in the last 15sec |
| 20:12.44 | Dashkal | hmm. someone asked a good question in the UI forums re pitbull. Is there anyway to highlight debuffs that were caused by you? |
| 20:12.46 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: welcome to Blizzard's API |
| 20:13.10 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: you can't inspect more than one person at a time |
| 20:13.24 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: "a time" being 15 seconds? |
| 20:13.27 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: so you wait until you get the inspect notice back before doing it again |
| 20:13.39 | ckknight | actually 15 seconds is when it declares a timeout and tries again |
| 20:13.49 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: or is this just for 2.4 for something I haven't yet experienced (some delay added by Blizzard) |
| 20:13.50 | ckknight | if you get the event back first, it'll declare it done |
| 20:14.07 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: it has to query the server, it's not as if you have the data locally |
| 20:14.15 | Pkekyo| | BLAAAARBLARBLAR |
| 20:15.07 | ckknight | thank you for that, Pkekyo| |
| 20:16.26 | Gnarfoz | obviously, but before (I didn't actually play arena since that rev), mousing over a bunch of players in an arena instantly got me talent spec data? or maybe it was just "fast" and I didn't notice the delay between query and "done" for each player? hm. weird though, that CowTip's talent display stops working while Proximo is loaded oO |
| 20:19.30 | Nandini | was there ever any response to requests for a GetUnitGUID("unit") function? |
| 20:19.53 | MentalPower | Nandini: yes, look at the 2.4 changes thread |
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| 20:23.06 | Nandini | excellent. in addition to GUID registry style libraries, i can see foresee a spot for a unit properties caching library |
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| 20:23.43 | nevcairiel | doesnt LibGUIDRegistry do that already? |
| 20:24.57 | Nandini | i was thinking along the lines if one addon inspected a player to get its talent info, it could add that to the unit properties cache for that unit, so another addon could query the cache first before inspecting |
| 20:25.11 | Nandini | could be done now using just names i guess, this would just make it more elegant |
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| 20:26.37 | Nandini | in my list of "privacy and sharing concerns" i can think of a whole lot of data that could be saved in the cache for use by other addons |
| 20:27.24 | Elsia | not sure if we really need a GUID registry with UnitGUID() present |
| 20:27.45 | nevcairiel | it can cache GUID -> Name stuff for you |
| 20:27.56 | nevcairiel | and GUID -> Unit*() results |
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| 20:28.19 | Elsia | well yeah, except that a lot of addons will have GUID/Name and won't need a lib for that |
| 20:28.35 | Maldivia | tooltip:SetHyperlink("unit:"..guid) and you have guid => name |
| 20:28.59 | Elsia | and for the GUID->Unit*() you'd basically need a sort of roster lib that is unitid based |
| 20:29.28 | Nandini | rather than a just a GUID -> name registry, this could cache lots of useful data for you |
| 20:29.50 | Elsia | isn't the idea to only cache what you actually need for an addon? |
| 20:29.52 | Nandini | addons using the cache could set their own thresholds for when to refresh the data in case it might be stale |
| 20:29.57 | Maldivia | or even better, make Unit* methods take guids as unit :) |
| 20:30.19 | [SW]Dodge | whats the latest ptr build? |
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| 20:30.24 | Nandini | yes, if you have only one addon that utilizes the cache, it would store only properties it used |
| 20:30.29 | Elsia | there is no function that takes GUID for reason that it bypasses the unitid safeguard for snap targeting |
| 20:31.08 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: 5762 |
| 20:31.19 | Elsia | the only lib I need is a libstubbed unitid roster lib, the rest I can always request... it's very easy to cache for yourself whatever Unit*() you actually use |
| 20:31.28 | Maldivia | Elsia: snap targeting? |
| 20:31.45 | Nandini | if however you have two addons that use the cache, or (an even better example) two addons that would use the same properties stored in the cache, you simplify data storage |
| 20:31.55 | [SW]Dodge | Maldivia: wtf? my ptr client is 7962 O.o |
| 20:32.09 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: 7962, yes |
| 20:32.14 | [SW]Dodge | ah ok :) |
| 20:32.18 | Nandini | especially for expensive operations like inspection |
| 20:32.27 | [SW]Dodge | is patching* :P |
| 20:32.29 | Nandini | or things that can get queued up, like who requests |
| 20:32.33 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: 57 and 79... close... *cough* |
| 20:32.48 | Elsia | I rather see a lib that just caches inspection, rather than one that caches too many things |
| 20:32.48 | [SW]Dodge | :) ^^ |
| 20:33.37 | Maldivia | Elsia: what do you mean by "snap targeting" ? |
| 20:34.23 | Elsia | mald: well basically what blizz wants is that you cannot get to anything that isn't a unitid |
| 20:34.59 | Nandini | for example, i have two addons now that cache (and make persistent) a players name, class, and level |
| 20:35.06 | [SW]Dodge | wtf ptr tells my my account info are wrong... but on live i can login w/o problems |
| 20:35.25 | Elsia | dodge: known bug, blue post but no fix yet |
| 20:35.43 | Nandini | on my high-pop server, those data are almost 5mb for each addon now, and it has only been storing players i've moused over or seen in battlegrounds |
| 20:35.43 | Gnarfoz | [SW]Dodge: using deDE client? |
| 20:35.47 | [SW]Dodge | enGB |
| 20:35.51 | Elsia | also for enGB |
| 20:36.05 | Elsia | it's a problem of the account server in EU it seems |
| 20:36.06 | Gnarfoz | couldn't go on there with deDE anyway, character rename functionality is borked there :D |
| 20:36.16 | [SW]Dodge | a druid here who can access ptr? |
| 20:36.20 | Amadeo | deDEdeDE! |
| 20:36.24 | Maldivia | Elsia: yeah, I know - but with the exposure of guids, and unit:guid hyperlink, a lot of that data is available anyway, and with the safeguarding by secure frames, there's really nothing "dirty" you can do with the guids that you can't acomplice otherwise, although not as easily |
| 20:36.45 | Elsia | I think they'll nerf unit:guid actually but I may be wrong |
| 20:36.52 | [SW]Dodge | would like to know what about "Nuturing Instinct" (feral talent) |
| 20:37.05 | [SW]Dodge | mmo-champion has more diffrent posts about it |
| 20:37.17 | Gnarfoz | most recent one should be correct for the time being, then? |
| 20:37.19 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 20:37.24 | Maldivia | Increases your healing spells by up to 50% of your Agility, and increases healing done to you by 10% while in Cat form. |
| 20:37.29 | Nandini | i can understand blizzard being cautious about letting GUIDs be used in different contexts |
| 20:37.38 | Maldivia | 100% and 20% for rank 2 |
| 20:37.41 | Nandini | that's for 1 talent point, for 2 you get 100%/20% |
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| 20:38.00 | [SW]Dodge | Maldivia: thanks |
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| 20:38.25 | Maldivia | if it actually works now, no idea, don't have points in it :) |
| 20:38.57 | Nandini | i think it was meant to be a buff for ferals in arena |
| 20:39.01 | thmo | sorry for bothering you guys, but i was looking at data transfers ingame, and there a "3t" that uses massive amounts of bw, but i can't figure out what addon it is. Anyone happen to know which it is? |
| 20:39.06 | Dashkal | hmm, I might have to take that talent again in 2.4. I just got rid of it |
| 20:39.19 | NeoTron | Elsia: you can do things like UnitName("unit:"..guid) in 2.4? |
| 20:39.22 | Funkeh` | thmo, recount |
| 20:39.26 | gromit|twl | Where should I look to figure out how to repair an error with my install of cartographer? |
| 20:39.39 | [SW]Dodge | Maldivia: hehe, just want to know it is maybe usefull now :) |
| 20:39.43 | Elsia | thmo: tell your raid members to turn sync off for recount |
| 20:40.01 | thmo | Elsia and Funkeh`: ah, thx |
| 20:40.24 | Elsia | neo: doubt it, I haven't even tried that mald reports as working with the tooltip |
| 20:40.56 | NeoTron | oh it's a "guid link" of some sort |
| 20:41.33 | Elsia | tooltip |
| 20:41.46 | Elsia | tooltip:SetHyperlink("unit:"..guid) |
| 20:41.56 | Elsia | as said, never tried, maldivia reports it to work |
| 20:42.24 | FtH|Daemona | http://tinyurl.com/37yo6u |
| 20:42.32 | nevcairiel | i thought they removed that functionality again |
| 20:42.34 | NeoTron | is that the same thing that creates the quest and ability tooltips then? |
| 20:42.36 | FtH|Daemona | to all trying to log into ptr... stop trying and read blue posts |
| 20:42.40 | NeoTron | same mechanic |
| 20:43.09 | NeoTron | or why not just http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4913973224&sid=1 |
| 20:43.16 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: that was yesterday :P |
| 20:43.19 | Funkeh` | is unitguid active on the altest ptr |
| 20:43.28 | FtH|Daemona | ... read the updated posts nevcairiel ? |
| 20:43.46 | FtH|Daemona | NeoTron cause thats too long for my ventrilo comment ;) |
| 20:43.49 | nevcairiel | still 2008-02-25 on last post :) |
| 20:44.03 | kebinusan | I love the onion, http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks |
| 20:44.03 | nevcairiel | purl: date |
| 20:44.04 | purl | It is now 2008.02.26 20:44:04 GMT |
| 20:44.41 | FtH|Daemona | uuh lol, wrong link ;) -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4913973224&postId=49133018217&sid=1#0 |
| 20:44.45 | Maldivia | Funkeh`: TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_DEST_UNIT = "|Hunit:$destGUID:$destName|h$destNameString|h"; is still there, so I'd think so |
| 20:45.08 | Funkeh` | huh? |
| 20:45.17 | Funkeh` | 'still there'? it was never added |
| 20:45.43 | Funkeh` | UnitGUID('unit') |
| 20:45.56 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: unit tooltips stopped to work, at least the tooltip:SetHyperlink("unit"...) |
| 20:45.59 | Maldivia | ahh, though you were referincing unit:guid :) |
| 20:46.18 | nevcairiel | or will stop working .. at least i read it somewhere :P |
| 20:46.47 | gromit|twl | could someone suggest why it is that I'm getting multiple cartographer:lua:547:stack overflow errors? |
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| 20:48.27 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: hmm, where did you see that? |
| 20:49.30 | nevcairiel | dont remember anymore, just wait for the patch to disable it :D |
| 20:50.14 | Ellipsis | gromit|twl: are you fully updated? |
| 20:53.34 | gromit|twl | Yes, Ellipsis, I believe so. I d/l all of the cartographer updates available |
| 20:54.24 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r62995 10PitBull/Aura/Layout.lua: PitBull_Aura: fix snap-related layout bug. |
| 20:54.45 | Elsia | is there an ace2->ace3 wiki available yet? |
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| 20:57.17 | Stanzilla | Elsia: http://wowace.com/wiki/Differences_from_Ace2_to_Ace3 is the only thing |
| 20:57.52 | Elsia | it's a start |
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| 21:03.58 | Dashkal | Re Ace3-Rock cooperation: Does Rock's configuration dialog pick up on mods using AceConfigRegistry-3.0? |
| 21:05.30 | durcyn | no. |
| 21:06.56 | Diao | hmm |
| 21:07.23 | Diao | anyone experienced with shadow priests? i'm not too bad myself but this has got me stumped |
| 21:07.30 | omeow | I made an addon using ace2 libraries. How do I get it to show up in WoWAceUpdater? |
| 21:07.31 | Dashkal | Drat. Note to self: export configuration into a seperate addon. I'd rather not have the Nexus Core talking to both ace3 and rock |
| 21:07.53 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: RockConfig can only read ace2 options tables |
| 21:08.02 | Ellipsis | ace3 changed too much stuff |
| 21:08.11 | Dashkal | Yeah I figured as much, but I was hoping :p |
| 21:08.37 | Dashkal | exporting configuration isn't all _that_ much trouble, and has some real merit to it anyway from a design perspective. It'll neatly remove all UI code from Nexus itself |
| 21:08.58 | Elsia | who knows, maybe it'll come eventually. I still remember when RockConfig didn't do ace2 options either |
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| 21:09.20 | RaydenU | how do i pass argument using the console and an 'execute' type? |
| 21:10.02 | Dashkal | I _really_ like having the consistent configuration for nearly all of my addons. |
| 21:10.21 | RaydenU | i looked at ClosetGnome and it defines args = {} but that doesn't seem to do anything for me |
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| 21:11.01 | ckknight | Elsia: it cannot read Ace3, cause Ace3's table format is far too different |
| 21:11.08 | ckknight | I've looked into it |
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| 21:11.33 | Dashkal | ckknight: Is it ever planned (after Ace3 freezes) or should I just go with talking to both? |
| 21:11.45 | ckknight | as I said it "cannot" |
| 21:11.53 | ckknight | not it "doesn't right now" |
| 21:12.13 | ckknight | I'd have to have something where you specify the different table type |
| 21:12.24 | ckknight | and then add a whole bunch of extra code |
| 21:12.50 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r62996 10aX_RaidStatus/ (. RaidStatusCore.lua RaidStatusLocal-enUS.lua embeds.xml): |
| 21:12.50 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 21:12.50 | CIA-9 | - New: BabbleClass-2.2 to allow proper class parsing of different localizations |
| 21:12.50 | CIA-9 | - New-Feature: Added a forced update button that is only allowed to be used while not in combat and in a raid |
| 21:12.50 | CIA-9 | - Change-Feature: The lock button is now disabled if docked is selected. |
| 21:12.52 | CIA-9 | - Removed: AceHook-2.0 Library - Nolonger used. |
| 21:13.16 | Dashkal | Not the end of the world to do dual-configs. From my perspective ace3's config table is just another way of writing a bean (yes, I admit it, I'm a java coder). All interfaces. |
| 21:13.57 | Dashkal | My goal for this is a familiar interface to the user rather than the smallest solution |
| 21:14.07 | ckknight | P.S. your mom's a bean |
| 21:14.13 | ckknight | ...burn |
| 21:14.19 | durcyn | Dashkal: you're missing a lot of politics here also |
| 21:14.45 | Dashkal | durcyn: Ignoring more like it. I'm picking my libs based on need rather than philosophy |
| 21:14.57 | CIA-9 | 03sungam * r62997 10ManaWarner/core.lua: |
| 21:14.57 | CIA-9 | ManaWarner: |
| 21:14.57 | CIA-9 | - Fixed time between warnings. |
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| 21:15.34 | Dashkal | If the developer says it cannot be done I shrug and find another way to reach my goal. |
| 21:15.43 | CIA-9 | 03sungam * r62998 10MHLootSwitcher/ (MHLootSwitcher.lua MHLootSwitcher.toc): MHLootSwitcher - added warning, seems to crash wow |
| 21:16.02 | Ellipsis | what if he says your mom cannot be done? |
| 21:16.12 | Dashkal | He's be right. She's happily taken :p |
| 21:16.17 | durcyn | eh, both config dialogs should be deprecated in favor of the 2.4 interface options anyway |
| 21:16.23 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r62999 10aX_RaidStatus/RaidStatusCore.lua: |
| 21:16.23 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 21:16.23 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Fixed potential bug with forcing an update. |
| 21:16.36 | Dashkal | I'm inclined to agree with CK after looking at that thing. It's pretty ugly |
| 21:16.47 | Dashkal | I mean I'll _use_ it, but I won't force it. |
| 21:17.12 | Ellipsis | durcyn: I hope that was a joke |
| 21:17.23 | ckknight | durcyn: that had better be a joke |
| 21:17.34 | ckknight | the 2.4 interfaces pane is pretty bad |
| 21:18.09 | nevcairiel | whats so bad about it? you can feed your own frame into it |
| 21:18.21 | durcyn | no, it wasn't a joke at all |
| 21:18.41 | Ellipsis | durcyn: have you even *tried* to use that thing? |
| 21:18.59 | Xinhuan | its usable for small-scale config |
| 21:18.59 | RaydenU | very interesting |
| 21:19.08 | Xinhuan | that has say 15 or less options |
| 21:19.12 | RaydenU | i can get a 'text' type to get arguments, but not an 'execute' type |
| 21:19.28 | nevcairiel | anyway, Ace3 will have a option to display your options in the 2.4 Options Dialog |
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| 21:19.38 | nevcairiel | as Xinhuan pointed out, its not suitable for complex configs |
| 21:19.46 | nevcairiel | but we offer the choice for the Dev to decide |
| 21:20.35 | Usling | sorry to ask but what ace addon is it that makes a big list of all ace addons so u can crontrole all the addons from that addon ? |
| 21:20.38 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 21:20.38 | purl | decapitates Xinhuan conan the destroyer style |
| 21:20.56 | nevcairiel | Usling: niagara or deucecommaner |
| 21:21.02 | nevcairiel | *deucecommander |
| 21:21.23 | Usling | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.24 | Josh_Borke | what the deuce? |
| 21:21.31 | Usling | old brain not working so good :) |
| 21:22.59 | Dashkal | ahh, DC. My first exposure to an all-in-one config. |
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| 21:23.38 | RaydenU | can you guys point me to an example of using AceConsole with the execute type with arguments? |
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| 21:24.19 | RaydenU | i can get the arguments to work with a text type but not execute |
| 21:24.53 | Elsia | ray: this works just fine for recount: http://ace.pastey.net/82988 |
| 21:25.33 | Dashkal | Bleh, AceComm3 looked so good... except that I need custom channels *sighs* |
| 21:25.33 | ckknight | RaydenU: type = 'text', get = false |
| 21:25.34 | Elsia | oh with arguments.. hmm |
| 21:25.51 | RaydenU | heh |
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| 21:35.20 | Grum | <RaydenU> can you guys point me to an example of using AceConsole with the execute type with arguments?: arg1, arg2, arg3 etc |
| 21:36.59 | Grum | oh |
| 21:37.00 | Grum | well |
| 21:37.04 | Grum | there is nothing like that |
| 21:37.11 | Grum | just put the stuff you want in your 'function' :D |
| 21:37.26 | Grum | function() call_other_function_with( arg1, arg2, ... ) end |
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| 21:37.53 | Grum | or put it in 'arg' |
| 21:38.04 | Grum | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~br=Routes/WowAce/trunk/Routes/Routes.lua?r=61470#l2535 |
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| 21:45.34 | vhaarr | Grum: ckk already answered his question, I don't see why you're confusing him with "there is nothing like that" |
| 21:45.35 | vhaarr | sure there is |
| 21:45.46 | vhaarr | type="text",get=false,input=true |
| 21:46.16 | Grum | mm i clearly misunderstood the question at hand then :( |
| 21:46.18 | RaydenU | doesn't that still display your text info? |
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| 21:46.27 | RaydenU | i want to be able to call a function with arguments from the console |
| 21:46.33 | RaydenU | doesn't seem like text is appropriate for that |
| 21:46.39 | vhaarr | it is |
| 21:46.51 | RaydenU | even though i don't save any variables? |
| 21:46.51 | vhaarr | type="text",get=false will send all the input to the function |
| 21:46.54 | RaydenU | then what is execute for? |
| 21:46.57 | vhaarr | yes? |
| 21:47.08 | vhaarr | execute is for executing functions without arguments |
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| 21:47.12 | RaydenU | oh |
| 21:47.14 | RaydenU | well then |
| 21:47.17 | RaydenU | that makes total sense |
| 21:47.47 | vhaarr | input=true will automatically split the input on space and send separate words as separate arguments |
| 21:47.54 | vhaarr | read the aceoptions docs? |
| 21:48.05 | vhaarr | RaydenU: and there are TONS of addons that do this already on the svn |
| 21:48.10 | vhaarr | you could look for examples |
| 21:48.18 | RaydenU | i just assumed execute took arguments |
| 21:48.19 | vhaarr | instead of coming here and getting confused by Grum |
| 21:48.24 | RaydenU | so i kept trying to do it |
| 21:48.40 | RaydenU | i didn't find any documentation on it or else i would have solved it a long time ago :) |
| 21:49.03 | Grum | well tbh, execute does take arguments if you predifine them in the opt-table |
| 21:49.07 | Elsia | aceconfig-2.0 is kinda gonish so if someone doesn't know to look for aceoptions they won't likely find it |
| 21:49.13 | Elsia | the wiki for it that is |
| 21:49.38 | vhaarr | http://wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table |
| 21:49.43 | sb | bahh |
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| 21:49.55 | Antiarc | You know what's most interesting about that stat stacking bug? |
| 21:50.01 | sb | i wanna kill some people here |
| 21:50.15 | sb | yelling at me that we should change loot master for 'better loot' |
| 21:50.26 | Antiarc | Expertise is a signed byte, but everything else is at least a 3-byte integer. |
| 21:50.27 | sb | this is sooo annoying |
| 21:50.33 | Diao | lf someone good at shadowpriest to explain something |
| 21:50.52 | Groktar-Impulse | i am bad at shadowpriest |
| 21:50.59 | Grum | vhaarr: in 2.0 it has [passValue] and in 3.0 it has 'arg' |
| 21:51.05 | Antiarc | I am bad at shadowpriest but I know the theory |
| 21:51.11 | Groktar-Impulse | hehe |
| 21:51.23 | Groktar-Impulse | you should ask natalem on daggerspine |
| 21:51.27 | Grum | how can you be bad at shadowpriest? its a 3 button class :D |
| 21:51.31 | vhaarr | Grum: and you're still just confusing yourself and others, passValue has nothing to do with the input that the option get |
| 21:51.31 | Diao | that's what we thought grum |
| 21:51.33 | vhaarr | gets* |
| 21:51.34 | Diao | but we have a shadowpriest in the guild |
| 21:51.36 | Groktar-Impulse | he sometimes will outdps the tank |
| 21:51.36 | Antiarc | DoT timing, mostly |
| 21:51.40 | Groktar-Impulse | ^ |
| 21:51.48 | Diao | who got outdpsed by our tanks |
| 21:51.50 | Diao | and a hunter pet.. |
| 21:51.52 | Elsia | anti: is crit rating a 3-byte integer too? |
| 21:51.58 | Killmore | Grum: swp, mb, mf, vamp touch, vamp emb, swd |
| 21:51.59 | Stanzilla | <Grum> how can you be bad at shadowpriest? its a 3 button class < diaf! |
| 21:52.01 | Killmore | 3 buttons ? |
| 21:52.01 | Stanzilla | not true |
| 21:52.01 | Groktar-Impulse | tell him to get a dot timer or gtfo |
| 21:52.02 | Antiarc | Elsia: Has to be, I got it over 16k |
| 21:52.11 | Diao | somehow a hunter pet alone outdpsed her |
| 21:52.14 | Diao | i don't understand how it's possible |
| 21:52.18 | Diao | she has good gear |
| 21:52.21 | Elsia | anti: hmm interesting, so expertise is actually % scaled directly? |
| 21:52.24 | Groktar-Impulse | tell him to get a dot timer or gtfo |
| 21:52.31 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: check her wws? |
| 21:52.31 | Antiarc | Elsia: I'm not sure, but it overflows past 128. |
| 21:52.34 | Diao | i did nhts |
| 21:52.40 | Antiarc | I play a rogue, where PVE combat consists of "Run a 3s5r DPS cycle until the mob is dead" |
| 21:52.44 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: most of the time, i've noticed shitty spriests just have shitty rotations |
| 21:52.51 | Antiarc | So yeah. I'm not quite awesome at shadowpriest :P |
| 21:52.52 | Diao | i can't figure out the rotation from the wws though |
| 21:53.09 | Grum | Diao: just ask? :) |
| 21:53.14 | Amadeo | Shadow Priests melt your face! |
| 21:53.19 | Groktar-Impulse | you don't even need a specific rotation tho |
| 21:53.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: you can kinda guess, if the percentage of abilities used is skewed in a ceertain way |
| 21:53.24 | EvilJohn | i melt faces! |
| 21:53.28 | NeoTron | Diao: what is hard to understand? she sucked. :) |
| 21:53.34 | Groktar-Impulse | just so long as you're keeping dots up and doing stuff in between |
| 21:53.37 | NeoTron | how to not DPS as a shadow priest: AFK |
| 21:53.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Does wws have dot/hot uptime figures? |
| 21:53.49 | Diao | we know she sucks |
| 21:53.53 | Diao | we're trying to figure out why |
| 21:53.55 | Grum | NightHawkAtWork: no |
| 21:54.05 | NightHawkAtWork | Grum: bah, lame, recount does. >.> |
| 21:54.08 | Grum | Diao: ask the cycle, if it says nothing .. you know why =D |
| 21:54.08 | Elsia | anti: any experience with ace3 that I should worry about trying to get recount to go ace2->ace3? |
| 21:54.20 | NeoTron | WWS allows you to count the number of ticks however |
| 21:54.24 | Groktar-Impulse | ^ |
| 21:54.32 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: oh, good point |
| 21:54.44 | Groktar-Impulse | specific cycle isn't too important for sp |
| 21:54.45 | NightHawkAtWork | I hardly look at dot/hot stuff on wws, as a shammy, I just don't have any >.> |
| 21:54.58 | NeoTron | VT > SWP > MB > SWD > MF |
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| 21:55.09 | Diao | she's got more MF ticks than our "good" shadowpriests |
| 21:55.10 | NeoTron | if(!vt) cast(vt) |
| 21:55.11 | NeoTron | etc |
| 21:55.17 | Diao | but they average like 1/4 the damage |
| 21:55.23 | NeoTron | MF is the lowest priority spell |
| 21:55.25 | Diao | even though she has almost as good gear |
| 21:55.29 | Groktar-Impulse | that's not a rotation |
| 21:55.31 | NeoTron | do you have a WWS we can look at? |
| 21:55.34 | Groktar-Impulse | priority system |
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| 21:55.37 | NeoTron | Groktar-Impulse: it's a priority list |
| 21:55.39 | Ironhand | how do I un-set a main tank in oRA2? |
| 21:55.39 | Diao | http://wowwebstats.com/hkn1f4uwmmx25 |
| 21:55.42 | Groktar-Impulse | yes |
| 21:55.42 | Diao | elrathia is the failpriest |
| 21:55.53 | Grum | Diao: Estimated time : 2 min 18'' .. kek! |
| 21:56.03 | Stanzilla | VT => SWP => VE => SWD => MB => MF |
| 21:56.07 | Antiarc | Elsia: There are a few gotchas, but overall it's a very nice transition |
| 21:56.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Grum: gah, seriously, wtb open source wws. |
| 21:56.11 | NeoTron | Diao: looking all night or just attempts? |
| 21:56.11 | Diao | lol |
| 21:56.19 | Diao | this was practice tk |
| 21:56.23 | nevcairiel | Ironhand: set the MT with no target |
| 21:56.26 | Diao | cause we have a bunch of new people |
| 21:56.31 | Diao | so we were testing out the zone |
| 21:56.34 | Grum | Antiarc: you can do it so easily on 2.4 now :) |
| 21:56.42 | Grum | 2.3 parsing is a bitch |
| 21:56.43 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: if you did, i would seriously love you foreer. Hell, I may even help :P |
| 21:56.43 | Antiarc | That's why I'm seriously considering it. |
| 21:56.58 | NeoTron | Diao: for starters she doesn't use SWD or MB |
| 21:57.01 | Elsia | anti: cool, I'll take the plunge once I can actually test on PTR again :P |
| 21:57.09 | Diao | we told her not to use swd yet |
| 21:57.10 | NeoTron | and has less dot ticks |
| 21:57.14 | Groktar-Impulse | just comparing the clockwork to elsia i see that clockwork had 9 more swp ticks and 12 more vt ticks |
| 21:57.14 | Diao | cause she's still learning shadowpriest |
| 21:57.22 | Grum | lol |
| 21:57.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: that seems.. silly? |
| 21:57.25 | Groktar-Impulse | that's about 25% fewer |
| 21:57.26 | NeoTron | than someone who died early on |
| 21:57.27 | Grum | dont use swd? |
| 21:57.28 | Fisker- | http://i32.tinypic.com/2hxvcpl.jpg |
| 21:57.29 | Fisker- | massive win |
| 21:57.29 | Grum | that is silly :D |
| 21:57.33 | Groktar-Impulse | did he die? |
| 21:57.40 | EvilJohn | I don't think so |
| 21:57.45 | Diao | look at dps time |
| 21:57.55 | EvilJohn | SW:D can mess up your rotation |
| 21:58.03 | EvilJohn | especially when you're starting out |
| 21:58.17 | Groktar-Impulse | swd is a good way to pwn your mana pool |
| 21:58.21 | NightHawkAtWork | bah, you should educate someon on HOW to use something, not just say "dont use it" |
| 21:58.37 | EvilJohn | I don't use it as much as I used to |
| 21:58.46 | EvilJohn | the mana drain on it does kidna suck |
| 21:58.50 | Groktar-Impulse | seriously though, go back to the first thing i said |
| 21:58.55 | Groktar-Impulse | which is to get her a dot timer |
| 21:59.00 | NeoTron | Diao: bummer you don't have an actual kill |
| 21:59.11 | Groktar-Impulse | her ticks are so awful compared to the other priest she's probably not using one |
| 21:59.24 | Diao | yea |
| 21:59.28 | Diao | somehow her dps is lower than just mindflay dps |
| 21:59.30 | Diao | or even wanding... |
| 21:59.34 | Diao | which makes no sense! |
| 21:59.35 | NeoTron | DPS time |
| 21:59.40 | NeoTron | she's not doing much |
| 21:59.47 | Diao | she's alive during the entire fight |
| 21:59.51 | Diao | so she's gotta be like afk or something |
| 22:00.00 | EvilJohn | oh wow |
| 22:00.22 | EvilJohn | yeah, that's a mess |
| 22:00.35 | NeoTron | not using mind blast and SW:D is bad though |
| 22:00.44 | NeoTron | I know it's a mana drain but they are major sources of SP dps |
| 22:00.55 | EvilJohn | sometimes |
| 22:01.09 | EvilJohn | i'm going to with I think SW:D is overrated |
| 22:01.14 | NeoTron | is also missing spell hit |
| 22:01.17 | EvilJohn | I know I don't use it much on boss fights anymore |
| 22:01.32 | Groktar-Impulse | compare the number of her mindflay ticks to vandell |
| 22:01.35 | Grum | Diao: http://wowwebstats.com/hkn1f4uwmmx25?ab=116 <== that doesnt look good |
| 22:01.38 | Diao | she can't be missing spellhit |
| 22:01.43 | Diao | she's over the damn hitcap |
| 22:01.49 | Diao | for spri* |
| 22:01.52 | EvilJohn | yeah, the mitigation looks about right |
| 22:01.59 | Diao | yeah grum |
| 22:02.03 | EvilJohn | I've had worse days then that, mitigation wise |
| 22:02.04 | Groktar-Impulse | she's getting twice as many mindflay ticks as swp and vt ticks |
| 22:02.04 | Grum | oh |
| 22:02.04 | Diao | we don't know why her mf ticks are so low |
| 22:02.05 | Grum | LOL |
| 22:02.07 | Grum | i know why |
| 22:02.09 | Diao | ? |
| 22:02.11 | Diao | why :O |
| 22:02.12 | Grum | she is using rank 1 =D |
| 22:02.16 | Diao | ... |
| 22:02.16 | sb | lol |
| 22:02.19 | Diao | are you serious |
| 22:02.20 | NeoTron | o.m.g |
| 22:02.21 | Grum | KEK! |
| 22:02.21 | Diao | LOL |
| 22:02.22 | NeoTron | moron |
| 22:02.24 | Diao | oh god |
| 22:02.27 | Groktar-Impulse | haha |
| 22:02.28 | Groktar-Impulse | you're right |
| 22:02.28 | Grum | that can be the only explanation :D |
| 22:02.33 | Groktar-Impulse | she's spamming rank 1 mindflay! |
| 22:02.37 | Diao | cause |
| 22:02.38 | NightHawkAtWork | .... :o |
| 22:02.42 | Diao | she was holy for the longest time |
| 22:02.45 | Diao | but was like the worst healer we had ever seen |
| 22:02.46 | Grum | if she did the high rank she would have topped the dmgmeters :D |
| 22:02.48 | NeoTron | she never trained it? |
| 22:02.50 | Diao | so we told her to go shadow |
| 22:02.57 | Diao | and just dps |
| 22:03.02 | Diao | thought it would be easier |
| 22:03.05 | Ellipsis | Diao: have you ever considered that she's just dumb and needs to be /gkicked? |
| 22:03.07 | NeoTron | never a good idea! Bad player is bad player regardless of spec msot of the time |
| 22:03.13 | Groktar-Impulse | ^ |
| 22:03.14 | Diao | she's someone's friend |
| 22:03.16 | Diao | we're pretty casual |
| 22:03.23 | EvilJohn | she's just not paying attention |
| 22:03.23 | nevcairiel | if one sucks at doing one thing, they mostly suck in general |
| 22:03.38 | Grum | tooltip of rank7: Assault the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing 528 Shadow damage over 3 sec and slowing the target to 50% of their movement speed. |
| 22:03.40 | Ellipsis | Diao: fine, then have her sit out of raids |
| 22:03.41 | Grum | |
| 22:03.45 | Grum | that is more than she is doing :P |
| 22:03.48 | Diao | lol |
| 22:03.50 | Ellipsis | tell her she can have priority on raid spots when she can pull her weight |
| 22:03.52 | Diao | thanks grum |
| 22:03.56 | Groktar-Impulse | pve is easy |
| 22:04.01 | Diao | that makes so much sense |
| 22:04.01 | Amadeo | WoW is easy |
| 22:04.02 | Groktar-Impulse | if someone is bad at pve |
| 22:04.05 | Diao | can't believe we didn't see that |
| 22:04.06 | Groktar-Impulse | it's because they don't care |
| 22:04.09 | Diao | the sad thing |
| 22:04.12 | Diao | is she DOES care |
| 22:04.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Diao: well, its hard to catch because you can't see rank used from the logs |
| 22:04.16 | Groktar-Impulse | no way |
| 22:04.22 | Diao | should've seen when caster loot drops |
| 22:04.26 | Diao | even if she doesn't need it |
| 22:04.27 | Diao | she wants it |
| 22:04.36 | Diao | and she bitched about our top mage winning it |
| 22:04.38 | NeoTron | loot whore |
| 22:04.38 | Diao | in kara |
| 22:04.42 | Azurewrath | mhm.. short question since i can't access my wow atm.. is there a feature in grid (or an addon which does it) to play a sound on an event? Like i'd want to hear a sound when someone gets cursed... |
| 22:04.43 | NeoTron | doesn't mean she cares |
| 22:04.46 | nevcairiel | thats just the female collecting urge |
| 22:04.49 | Groktar-Impulse | lootwhoring isn't the same thing as caring |
| 22:04.50 | Diao | lol |
| 22:04.51 | NeoTron | free ride loot |
| 22:04.54 | Groktar-Impulse | ya, it's liek shoes |
| 22:04.56 | Diao | the rest of our females don't do that :( |
| 22:05.06 | Diao | they're all actually quite competitive |
| 22:05.09 | Amadeo | Did they flirt their way into the guild? :P |
| 22:05.15 | Diao | lol |
| 22:05.20 | Diao | actually |
| 22:05.24 | Diao | most of them play male characters |
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| 22:05.29 | Diao | we didn't even know they were female til they spoke on vent |
| 22:05.38 | Diao | one of those WTF moments |
| 22:05.43 | Amadeo | So none are dating the guild leader and/or officers? |
| 22:05.44 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: now dont tell me you dont have a cabinet full of shoes or bags? |
| 22:05.50 | Diao | i am the guild leader |
| 22:05.51 | Diao | lol |
| 22:05.51 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: I certainly do not |
| 22:05.56 | Amadeo | Diao: Well? ;) |
| 22:05.57 | sb | huh? females playing wow? |
| 22:05.58 | Diao | and no i am not dating any of them |
| 22:05.59 | Groktar-Impulse | hehe |
| 22:05.59 | Diao | :P |
| 22:06.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis goes around naked all the time, she doesn't even have clothes. |
| 22:06.09 | Amadeo | Then you're safe, just make them play better :P |
| 22:06.09 | nevcairiel | Diao: do you want to? :P |
| 22:06.13 | Diao | not really, no |
| 22:06.15 | Ellipsis | it's true, NightHawkAtWork |
| 22:06.16 | Amadeo | nevcairiel: Good question! |
| 22:06.17 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:06.33 | Diao | lol |
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| 22:06.45 | Grum | Azurewrath: grid does that for me, not sure which part, prolly aura orso |
| 22:06.49 | NightHawkAtWork | Of course, as a result of this, Ellipsis has been banned from going in public, due to causing blindness among the population. |
| 22:06.50 | NeoTron | I know there are exceptions, because we have one, but we've found through painful experience that female wow players more often than not seem to be bad at raiding or cause too much drama |
| 22:06.57 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 22:07.00 | Grum | then again, it could be pitbull as well O.o |
| 22:07.02 | NeoTron | not being sexist or anything, it's just there in black and white based on experience |
| 22:07.03 | Ellipsis | you shall pay...someday |
| 22:07.04 | Diao | lol |
| 22:07.10 | Diao | our guild is like 1/5 female |
| 22:07.10 | Azurewrath | Grum: mhm.. ok.. ill search for it later.. thanks :) |
| 22:07.11 | Diao | it's weird |
| 22:07.14 | sb | NeoTron: hmm - yes :P |
| 22:07.17 | NeoTron | our main tank is female |
| 22:07.21 | NeoTron | she's great |
| 22:07.23 | Diao | and all of them except that shadowpriest are amazing players |
| 22:07.27 | Diao | both pve and pvp |
| 22:07.36 | Dashkal | Azurewrath: Check GridAlert |
| 22:07.36 | Diao | we run guild arena teams and bgs with them too :p |
| 22:07.48 | nevcairiel | when you get one of those attention-whore girls, you get drama :/ |
| 22:07.55 | Azurewrath | Dashkal: will do, thanks :) |
| 22:07.59 | NeoTron | one priest we had that had zero raid awareness, was a slow learned, died allt he time and couldn't handle any changes to what "she usually does" in an encounter was also a dramawhore |
| 22:08.01 | Dashkal | Be sure to set it up as you like. I was a lil surprised when my game suddenly started saying "aggro" |
| 22:08.05 | Diao | luckily we have none |
| 22:08.10 | Diao | actually i lie |
| 22:08.11 | Diao | we had one before |
| 22:08.15 | Diao | but all the other females bitched at her |
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| 22:08.18 | Diao | so she gquit |
| 22:08.20 | Diao | and we were happy |
| 22:08.22 | EvilJohn | I'm now the only SP in our guild, I feel like John Wayne |
| 22:08.22 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 22:08.25 | NeoTron | blowing everything out of propotion. she left to join a less advanced guild who accepted her suckiness but still gkicked her for causing drama |
| 22:08.36 | nevcairiel | yeah we our one of that too, was bitched out by another female too :P |
| 22:08.50 | sb | mh, sucking and blowing? hmhm |
| 22:08.54 | sb | nvm :o |
| 22:08.55 | Diao | lol sb |
| 22:08.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:08.59 | Diao | i see what you did there |
| 22:09.22 | Diao | but yeah.. our good female players tend to root out any female recruits that suck |
| 22:09.24 | NeoTron | and she's not the only example, sadly |
| 22:09.27 | Diao | and most of the guys don't care |
| 22:09.28 | Grum | but Diao, let me know if she actually used the lowest rank :P |
| 22:09.35 | Diao | yeah will do |
| 22:09.37 | Diao | once she logs in |
| 22:09.41 | Grum | so we can have another loller |
| 22:09.41 | NeoTron | we recruited a resto druid that insisted tree form sucked and lifebloom was a crap spell |
| 22:09.49 | NeoTron | isntead using HT almost exclusively |
| 22:09.56 | NeoTron | and we didn't look for another paladin healer... |
| 22:09.57 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: i hope you un-recruited him already |
| 22:09.58 | Dashkal | gg reroll paladin? |
| 22:10.01 | Groktar-Impulse | hehe |
| 22:10.02 | Diao | lol |
| 22:10.05 | NeoTron | we did unrecruit HER yes |
| 22:10.10 | EvilJohn | good call |
| 22:10.11 | Groktar-Impulse | i like to spam gheal 1 |
| 22:10.15 | NivFreak | I thought there were some random healing touch druids out there that did alright |
| 22:10.20 | Diao | there are |
| 22:10.24 | Grum | Groktar-Impulse: with 2p tier5 its imba :D |
| 22:10.27 | Diao | if they go balance/moonkin |
| 22:10.28 | EvilJohn | mostly balance/ret aren't they? |
| 22:10.31 | EvilJohn | err rest |
| 22:10.33 | NivFreak | ret |
| 22:10.33 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:10.35 | Diao | resto* |
| 22:10.36 | Diao | wow |
| 22:10.39 | Diao | i fail |
| 22:10.39 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: sure "alright", but you can do even better when you spec right and l2p :P |
| 22:10.40 | NeoTron | yet a third female druid (feral this time) joined as a tank in t5/somet6 gear |
| 22:10.44 | NivFreak | I want a ret druid |
| 22:10.49 | Diao | lol |
| 22:10.50 | NeoTron | she didn't even know that it was bad to put your back against the raid boss |
| 22:10.52 | Diao | funny thing |
| 22:10.55 | Groktar-Impulse | i don't understand why anyong would want to torture themselves trying to use ht |
| 22:10.58 | Diao | one of our shaman |
| 22:10.59 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: I'm not disagreeing :P |
| 22:11.02 | Diao | was getting enh gear |
| 22:11.07 | Diao | even though she's resto right now |
| 22:11.09 | Diao | since nobody wanted it |
| 22:11.09 | Groktar-Impulse | by the time your spell lands they'll be healed to full |
| 22:11.11 | nevcairiel | good! |
| 22:11.13 | Diao | and she was like "yay ret gear" |
| 22:11.17 | Diao | and we were like "wtf ret shaman" |
| 22:11.19 | EvilJohn | heh |
| 22:11.20 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: that being said, I'd mock a melee hunter more ;) |
| 22:11.23 | NeoTron | and told us when she DC'd before a fight that her laptop at overheated so she had to spray upside-down liquid air on it to cool it down |
| 22:11.28 | EvilJohn | a ret shaman might actually be useful |
| 22:11.36 | NeoTron | and she plays sitting in the couch with her laptop literally in her lap without a mouse |
| 22:11.39 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: do melee hunters really exist? thats like the stupidest idea ever |
| 22:11.47 | NeoTron | she got untrialed real fast too |
| 22:11.49 | NivFreak | exist as pure badness |
| 22:11.56 | Grum | nevcairiel: seen some on lowerlevels |
| 22:12.12 | xyu | is there any way to make a "player made" custom gear in WoWequip? Just make it unlinkable but something we can edit our own stats into. :D would be nice. |
| 22:12.14 | Grum | 'dude you have to shoot', "nowai .. melee with my pet is faster" |
| 22:12.15 | Groktar-Impulse | my guild is too soft to kick a terribad |
| 22:12.20 | Groktar-Impulse | we just stop inviting them to raids |
| 22:12.23 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: so you see, nothing personal, just pure experience on bad recruits |
| 22:12.35 | Ellipsis | murr |
| 22:12.35 | Grum | xyu: its not, and how would it be useful? |
| 22:12.42 | Diao | lol Groktar-Impulse same |
| 22:12.43 | EvilJohn | how long do you try people out for? |
| 22:12.44 | NeoTron | we've had a few really bad male recruits too like a priest that didn't even register on healing meters (we don't quite know what he was doing) |
| 22:12.47 | Diao | we don't gkick |
| 22:12.52 | Diao | oh man |
| 22:12.57 | Diao | NeoTron we had a priest who died on EVERY PULL |
| 22:12.59 | NivFreak | I love the gkick |
| 22:13.00 | Diao | without doing anything |
| 22:13.04 | xyu | Grum: So i can edit in sunwell loot and compare |
| 22:13.06 | Diao | like that tank would pull and he'd just fall over and die |
| 22:13.07 | NeoTron | we just haven't had any drama issues with the male bad recruits vs fermale |
| 22:13.08 | Grum | Diao: i can do that too! |
| 22:13.11 | Diao | no like |
| 22:13.15 | Diao | he literally did nothing and would die |
| 22:13.20 | NivFreak | fermales eh |
| 22:13.21 | Diao | so now when people die randomly in a raid often |
| 22:13.24 | Grum | xyu: log onto ptr? .. or thats prolly down :/ |
| 22:13.28 | Diao | we're like "you are the new ____" |
| 22:13.30 | NeoTron | NivFreak: indeed. dang those fermales |
| 22:13.39 | xyu | I can decide which T6 pieces i want to spend dkp on :D |
| 22:13.39 | Diao | cause he gquit for a more progressed raiding guild |
| 22:13.41 | NivFreak | NeoTron: how's your marking mod going? |
| 22:13.43 | Diao | he's a running joke in our guild :P |
| 22:13.47 | NeoTron | we had a shadow priest that died alot |
| 22:13.52 | Ellipsis | drama is for ugly girls |
| 22:14.04 | Grum | or attentionwhores |
| 22:14.06 | NeoTron | she went away and was gone for like 4 months. then she returned and was pissed because she lost her raid spot |
| 22:14.07 | Groktar-Impulse | i die a lot when i spec fury |
| 22:14.14 | Diao | lol |
| 22:14.15 | NivFreak | NeoTron: lol |
| 22:14.19 | Diao | yeah but that's after doing dps right Groktar-Impulse |
| 22:14.20 | Groktar-Impulse | if i get aggro from the mob |
| 22:14.20 | Grum | we have one, she got the kael mount and publicly whines that she gets whispers to link it |
| 22:14.22 | Groktar-Impulse | i get more rage |
| 22:14.25 | Diao | not just standing there :P |
| 22:14.26 | Groktar-Impulse | and therfore do more damage |
| 22:14.28 | Groktar-Impulse | amiright? |
| 22:14.30 | Diao | haha |
| 22:14.31 | Grum | its not like she's friggin parading with it in shattrath |
| 22:14.36 | Diao | see this priest did literally nothing |
| 22:14.41 | Grum | 'USE ANOTHER MOUNT IF YOU CARE' gah! |
| 22:14.42 | Diao | he would stand there and die |
| 22:15.00 | Groktar-Impulse | it's how i did #1 dmg on rage and kazrogal waves last week |
| 22:15.01 | Groktar-Impulse | >.> |
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| 22:15.13 | Grum | what class Groktar-Impulse? :D |
| 22:15.15 | Diao | it turned out he did more healing with improved death than alive |
| 22:15.18 | Diao | fury warr, he just said :P |
| 22:15.22 | NeoTron | EvilJohn: oru trial period is 2-4 weeks but we've often been lax accepting "average" when we really have no spot for it |
| 22:15.23 | Groktar-Impulse | :D |
| 22:15.49 | Grum | furry is cool on akama :D |
| 22:15.58 | Ellipsis | Grum is furry? |
| 22:16.00 | Groktar-Impulse | i've been our mt since tbc, but my work schedule is starting to interfere with raids |
| 22:16.02 | NeoTron | Grum: you have a person whining about getting the phoenix mount? what the hell? |
| 22:16.03 | Grum | fury warrior :) |
| 22:16.07 | Groktar-Impulse | so i get to spec furry sometimes |
| 22:16.08 | Diao | lol |
| 22:16.19 | Grum | NeoTron: she flies with it hours and hours before the aldr bank |
| 22:16.24 | Grum | and whines about getting whispers |
| 22:16.24 | NeoTron | Diao: like he tried to die? |
| 22:16.39 | NeoTron | how did she end up getting it out of curiosity/ dkp? |
| 22:16.49 | Groktar-Impulse | /roll 100 |
| 22:16.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:16.54 | Groktar-Impulse | ? |
| 22:16.55 | Grum | dunno tbh |
| 22:16.57 | Grum | wasnt in the guild |
| 22:17.04 | NeoTron | Groktar-Impulse: that is what we did |
| 22:17.09 | Grum | but its annoying .. whine whine whine ... attention whore >< |
| 22:17.16 | Groktar-Impulse | ya, that's how my guild would do it |
| 22:17.19 | Groktar-Impulse | think most do it that way |
| 22:17.43 | Groktar-Impulse | we never had one drop |
| 22:17.49 | nevcairiel | we had one |
| 22:17.53 | Groktar-Impulse | but of course every other guild on the server gets one their first kill |
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| 22:18.13 | Groktar-Impulse | like sacred and their warglaives in two kills |
| 22:18.17 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63001 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: fixed some parenting issues |
| 22:18.44 | sb | kagaro: how to enable kgPanels? :o |
| 22:18.47 | sb | checkbox doesnt work |
| 22:19.03 | xyu | Where is WoWequip gettings it's "Derived stats" from. It says i have 1257 fire dmg, but i only have 1193 >< |
| 22:19.06 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.06 | NeoTron | Groktar-Impulse: I just wish illidan would drop his fricking skull more than once |
| 22:19.14 | kagaro | I had a bug in the enable code i just fixed as well |
| 22:19.25 | ramoz | xyu: you a lock with emberstorm? |
| 22:19.33 | xyu | no, i'm a mage |
| 22:19.55 | Grum | xyu: ItemBonusLib orso |
| 22:20.22 | xyu | so it's not supposed to match my paperdoll, correct? |
| 22:20.32 | Grum | nope its not |
| 22:20.36 | xyu | ok |
| 22:20.42 | Grum | it takes a bit more in account |
| 22:20.46 | Grum | but generally is quite accurate |
| 22:20.50 | ramoz | bet its Fire Power |
| 22:20.52 | xyu | it's probably doing Fire power |
| 22:21.12 | Grum | which is? |
| 22:21.20 | xyu | WoWequip derived stats |
| 22:21.25 | xyu | poh |
| 22:21.26 | xyu | oh |
| 22:21.32 | xyu | Fire power = increase dmg done by fire spoells |
| 22:21.34 | xyu | spells* |
| 22:21.34 | Grum | ah +10% |
| 22:21.48 | Grum | that is silly tbh, it should not do that |
| 22:22.12 | xyu | wowequip or firepower? |
| 22:22.20 | Grum | firepower calculation |
| 22:22.57 | ramoz | it does the same with emberstorm (lock +firedmg talent) |
| 22:23.28 | Grum | also should nto do that |
| 22:23.46 | Grum | its a modifier that is added to the total dmg, not spelldmg |
| 22:23.56 | NeoTron | Grum: beating a dead horse |
| 22:24.06 | Grum | well .. we have svn |
| 22:24.08 | NeoTron | Grum: basically ignore the "derived" value |
| 22:24.09 | Grum | therefor we can fix it ;D |
| 22:24.20 | NeoTron | not when the author doesn't want it fixed |
| 22:24.24 | NeoTron | which he does not |
| 22:24.24 | Grum | kek |
| 22:24.27 | Grum | then we fork it |
| 22:24.36 | NeoTron | or just /ignore the derived stuff P |
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| 22:25.56 | omeow | I made an addon using ace2 libraries. How do I get it to show up in WoWAceUpdater? |
| 22:26.07 | Grum | itembonuslib is actually not doing it |
| 22:26.26 | NeoTron | omeow: need to request, and get, a wowace svn account and check it into the SVN |
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| 22:26.40 | omeow | Hm, alright. |
| 22:26.49 | omeow | Who do I need to send an email to? |
| 22:27.00 | NeoTron | go to the wowace wiki and find it |
| 22:27.25 | omeow | I'll try again. |
| 22:27.41 | EvilJohn | whatdoes your addon do? |
| 22:27.48 | xyu | it's definitely getting it from my talents. if check the ignore talents box in the derived section then it'll show what my paperdoll has |
| 22:27.51 | ramoz | omeow: http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners |
| 22:28.29 | mort | !rating 1746 |
| 22:28.30 | Xinhuan | 1746 rating gives 677(5s), 595(3s) and 514(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:28.48 | xyu | yea , was a curiosity ^^ |
| 22:29.03 | xyu | mt |
| 22:29.08 | omeow | ramoz: Thanks. I didn't look at that page because I already knew how SVN worked. I assumed it was going to explain how SVN works.. =) |
| 22:29.36 | ramoz | http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account then:P |
| 22:29.48 | Grum | xyu: then its wowequip itself |
| 22:29.49 | omeow | Anyway, my addon automatically toggles playernames on and off depending on whether or not you're in an instance. I got really tired of having all those names clutter up my screen and I didn't want to have to do it manually all the time. =) |
| 22:30.06 | omeow | It's a simple thing, but I've never done any coding in lua before =) |
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| 22:30.35 | ramoz | oh |
| 22:30.36 | Grum | yup it is - statmods2.b.FIREDMG = statmods2.b.FIREDMG + 0.02 * (currentProfileTalents["MAGE|Fire|Fire Power|5"] or 0) |
| 22:30.38 | ramoz | i wanted that ages ago |
| 22:30.39 | xyu | more than my contributions! |
| 22:30.41 | Grum | so poke Xinhuan that its fake info :P |
| 22:30.54 | ramoz | i got used to not seeing playernames |
| 22:30.57 | xyu | haha , will do. |
| 22:31.21 | omeow | I like to have them on in the gameworld though, because I wouldn't be able to see that scum alliance otherwise. |
| 22:31.29 | Arrowmaster | xyu, Grum: i've yelled at him before about that and shadow mastery increasing the reported +shadow by 10% |
| 22:31.58 | Grum | he'll be open for reason :D |
| 22:32.01 | Grum | he always is :D |
| 22:32.31 | xyu | I need to get rid of 20 hit rating >< |
| 22:33.24 | Grum | statmods2.b.HEAL = statmods2.b.HEAL + 0.02 * (currentProfileTalents["PRIEST|Holy|Spiritual Healing|5"] or 0) <-- iew |
| 22:33.53 | Grum | that explains the difference between ratingbuster O.o |
| 22:33.57 | RaydenU | bosses don't have a unique unit type you can test for? |
| 22:34.02 | NeoTron | Grum: as I said, it's been discussed before. He's not open for reason regading this or it would have been changed :P |
| 22:34.27 | NeoTron | the whole point of "derived" is that it does this magic stuff |
| 22:34.40 | Grum | well some stuff should be in it |
| 22:34.57 | Grum | like healing from spirit if you have that talent |
| 22:34.58 | Xinhuan | i've explained this before (base + gear)*1.1 == (base*1.1) + (gear*1.1), since i ignore base stats, i report the (gear*1.1) part |
| 22:35.10 | Grum | Xinhuan: but you are lying |
| 22:35.17 | Xinhuan | if you don't want it, just manually set that talent to 0 |
| 22:35.24 | Grum | i want part of it |
| 22:35.26 | Grum | not all of it |
| 22:35.42 | Grum | the 'you heal more therefore your +healing goes up' is just BS |
| 22:35.59 | Grum | because depending on the casttime, what type of heal it is, it goes up with a different value |
| 22:36.05 | Xinhuan | that's just a different point of view |
| 22:36.12 | Grum | you compare stats |
| 22:36.15 | Grum | from gear |
| 22:36.20 | Grum | but that is not what you get |
| 22:36.26 | Xinhuan | i've explained this before (base + gear*coefficient)*1.1 == (base*1.1) + (gear*coefficient*1.1), since i ignore base stats, i report the (gear*1.1) part and ignore the coefficient |
| 22:37.07 | Grum | could you make an option to turn these edgecases off? |
| 22:37.15 | Grum | because its just faultly reporting stuff back atm |
| 22:37.15 | Xinhuan | possibly |
| 22:37.22 | Grum | where some of the talents actually shoudl be taken in account |
| 22:37.34 | Grum | but what you say isnt true |
| 22:37.37 | Xinhuan | from my point of view, your +40 damage gear is really worth 44 if you have a +10% talent |
| 22:37.40 | Josh_Borke | ~xinhuan |
| 22:37.43 | Grum | its not |
| 22:37.43 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Xinhuan |
| 22:37.55 | nevcairiel | if a talent specifically increases +heal or +dmg it should be taken into account |
| 22:37.55 | Xinhuan | from my point of view, it is, even if from your point of view, it isn't |
| 22:38.08 | nevcairiel | if a talent increase all outgoing dmg by somewhat, it shouldnt |
| 22:38.12 | NeoTron | ~deadhorse |
| 22:38.27 | Grum | on a 2.5s spell its worth 3.14 .. not 4 O.o |
| 22:38.40 | Xinhuan | because every spell has a different coefficient |
| 22:38.47 | Xinhuan | i don't even want to consider the spells |
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| 22:38.57 | Grum | therefor the flat modifier should be left alone (please option it) |
| 22:39.03 | Hjalte | What is a good addon for telling me what an item might disenchant into? I've been out of that business for a while and need to level up enchanting on a new toon now. |
| 22:39.09 | nevcairiel | its rather confusing to have inconsistency from the char stats panel to the wowequip panel |
| 22:39.13 | Xinhuan | 2 spells with the same casting time CAN have different spell coefficients |
| 22:39.14 | Grum | if it would have said: increases spelldmg by 10% - THAT would be valid |
| 22:39.26 | Xinhuan | the char stats panel is crap tbh |
| 22:39.44 | nevcairiel | its always easy to call something crap |
| 22:39.44 | Josh_Borke | *yawn* |
| 22:39.45 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 22:39.52 | Xinhuan | char stats panel is not consistent either, by your arguments |
| 22:39.53 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: BT is CRAP |
| 22:39.55 | NeoTron | just out of curiosity |
| 22:40.00 | Grum | well tbh, if ratingbuster says +94 healing ,, its stupid that wowequip says anything different |
| 22:40.05 | Grum | now i have to take in account its lying >< |
| 22:40.14 | Xinhuan | it only counts certain talents and not all talents |
| 22:40.17 | TP-Brendan | I've been looking for an addon that does something similar for mages as TankPoints does for warriors, anyone know of one? |
| 22:40.33 | Grum | Xinhuan: it takes the +10% more by healing spells |
| 22:40.51 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: whats inaccurate about it? It counts all talents that directly increase my +heal, not talents that increase overall healing effects after modifiers, thats accurate for my comparison |
| 22:40.52 | NeoTron | TP-Brendan: like SmartFitter? Pawn? I don't know what TankPoints does but it sounds like a pre-specialized Pawn |
| 22:40.52 | Xinhuan | +10% more increases overall by 10%. that 10% includes both your base, and your gear |
| 22:40.52 | Elsia | acedb-3.0's New() replaces RegisterDB basically? |
| 22:40.56 | Grum | that is not the same as: increases +healing by 10% |
| 22:41.26 | TP-Brendan | NeoTron: I'll check that out when I get off work. |
| 22:41.46 | NeoTron | SmartFitter can find the best gear to wear based on values given to stats |
| 22:41.51 | nevcairiel | its still stupid to use other calculations and create inconsistency with already exisiting functionality in the base UI just because you think you're smarter =P |
| 22:41.57 | NeoTron | what the value is for each stat you need to figure out yourself |
| 22:42.01 | RaydenU | guys... there is no way to distinguish a boss from any other unit? |
| 22:42.11 | Ellipsis | RaydenU: unit classification? |
| 22:42.15 | NeoTron | RaydenU: UnitClassification => worldboss |
| 22:42.17 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 22:42.19 | RaydenU | my partner says no |
| 22:42.21 | RaydenU | oh |
| 22:42.23 | Xinhuan | UnitClassification() returns boss if its a boss |
| 22:42.32 | NightHawkAtWork | reading the api ftw? |
| 22:42.39 | Xinhuan | otherwise it returns other values like Elite, Rare or normal |
| 22:42.47 | Xinhuan | or Critter |
| 22:42.49 | NeoTron | anything with a "skull" level is a worldboss |
| 22:42.55 | Grum | Xinhuan: could you please make it a checkbox that is off by default? (just because it doesnt match with how you would expect it - how you have been trained for aaaaages) |
| 22:42.59 | Josh_Borke | wtb option to pass configuration stuff to wowequip |
| 22:43.09 | Ellipsis | +1 to Grum's suggestion |
| 22:43.16 | Ellipsis | (shadow mastery must be fixed!) |
| 22:43.25 | Xinhuan | configuration stuff? |
| 22:43.30 | NeoTron | so Ace-question - what does acedb give you? is taht what does profile management? |
| 22:43.35 | RaydenU | this applies to all dungeon bosses? say including RFC? |
| 22:43.35 | Josh_Borke | this stuff they are whining about :-P |
| 22:43.44 | Josh_Borke | neotron: which version of AceDB? |
| 22:43.47 | NightHawkAtWork | RaydenU: anything flagged as a boss |
| 22:43.47 | Xinhuan | actually, i've been wanting to rewrite the whole damn thing from scratch |
| 22:43.56 | RaydenU | is there a list of units flagged as a boss? |
| 22:43.56 | NeoTron | Josh_Borke: well.. AceDB-3.0 |
| 22:43.59 | NeoTron | as my addon uses Ace3 |
| 22:44.07 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: then get to it |
| 22:44.17 | Xinhuan | but i've put it off because i don't want to start on "new projects" when i have unfinished current projects |
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| 22:44.20 | Josh_Borke | Neotron: all it provides for you is easy DB management, you still have to provide profile management |
| 22:44.26 | NightHawkAtWork | RaydenU: libbabble-boss is probably the closest, depending on what you need |
| 22:44.41 | NeoTron | but what is "db management" over just using a hash map with data in it? |
| 22:45.02 | NightHawkAtWork | RaydenU: the thing is, you need to be specific about what you want do you want to discern mobs classified as "bosseS" or mobs that just happen to be bosses in instances |
| 22:45.09 | NightHawkAtWork | the two are fundamentlly different questions. |
| 22:45.16 | RaydenU | This page contains a short overview of all World Bosses in game. These bosses are considered Raid Bosses since it takes more then a party of 5 players to down them. |
| 22:45.21 | RaydenU | that doesn't sound like dungeon bosses at all |
| 22:45.28 | NeoTron | and 5 man bosses are not detectable |
| 22:45.35 | NeoTron | except if you go by name and have a table with names |
| 22:45.39 | RaydenU | ok |
| 22:45.42 | RaydenU | that's what i was looking for |
| 22:45.46 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: they are if they're flagged as bosses, thouugh |
| 22:45.55 | NightHawkAtWork | it's just that most arn't |
| 22:46.02 | NeoTron | NightHawkAtWork: but they are not - bosses in 5-mans tend to be level 72.. |
| 22:46.05 | Josh_Borke | neotron: it handles defaults |
| 22:46.16 | NeoTron | are there any boss-marked bosses in 5-mans? |
| 22:46.16 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: level has no impact on boss flag, though. :P |
| 22:46.26 | NeoTron | NightHawkAtWork: boss flag = "player level + 3" |
| 22:46.29 | NeoTron | so it does have impact |
| 22:46.30 | NeoTron | well |
| 22:46.32 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: only in some respects |
| 22:46.39 | NeoTron | if worldboss => show level as skull |
| 22:46.48 | Arrowmaster | didnt that one boss in uldaman used to be flaged as a boss? |
| 22:46.49 | NeoTron | Josh_Borke: handlign defaults => ah |
| 22:46.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 22:47.11 | NightHawkAtWork | which made it very intersting for high level players to do him :P |
| 22:47.27 | NeoTron | being a boss vs not just means they scale they ability to hit with spells and melee |
| 22:47.30 | TP-Brendan | Intresting how? |
| 22:47.30 | NeoTron | and such |
| 22:47.44 | NeoTron | TP-Brendan: the fact that it can still do damage I presume |
| 22:47.46 | RaydenU | awesome |
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| 22:47.48 | RaydenU | uber uldaman boss |
| 22:47.49 | NeoTron | although HP and damage doesn't scale |
| 22:47.55 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: right |
| 22:47.55 | NeoTron | so I doubt it'd be very hard anyway |
| 22:50.59 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 22:51.07 | Arrowmaster | our MT can practiclly solo garr |
| 22:51.44 | Chompers | total fucking fail |
| 22:52.06 | Chompers | we go to vashj to get 4 new guys their vials |
| 22:52.23 | Amadeo | Wow, DivX is pulling the plug on Stage6 |
| 22:52.24 | Chompers | free for all loot is used, you can guess what happened...twice |
| 22:52.26 | Amadeo | that sucks |
| 22:52.59 | Chompers | "don't look vashj" |
| 22:53.14 | Chompers | a good 10 seconds later..someone does |
| 22:53.22 | NeoTron | someone ninjad items? |
| 22:53.25 | Chompers | then someone else, god damn |
| 22:53.29 | Chompers | two people did |
| 22:53.33 | NeoTron | are they stupid? |
| 22:53.36 | Chompers | yes. |
| 22:53.38 | TP-Brendan | epic fail |
| 22:53.44 | NeoTron | then just gkick their stupid asses |
| 22:53.45 | NightHawkAtWork | better, question, is your raid leader an idiot for forgetitng to switch to ml after p2? |
| 22:54.03 | Chompers | after 11 wipes i don't blame him for forgetting |
| 22:54.04 | NeoTron | NightHawkAtWork: feh what guild has ninjalooters in it that kill vashj for back-attunement reasons? |
| 22:54.16 | NeoTron | and say "sure I'll loot this tiem lololol |
| 22:54.20 | NeoTron | when the dialog pops up |
| 22:54.22 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: oh, agreed |
| 22:54.34 | EvilJohn | man, that totally sucks |
| 22:54.34 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: but I still say both are at fault |
| 22:54.45 | NeoTron | I hve never turned it back to not-FFA |
| 22:54.46 | Chompers | what a shitty shitty night |
| 22:54.50 | EvilJohn | ninjing on a vashj kill.. good lucking getting in a guild after that |
| 22:54.59 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: i'm a cynical and untrusting person. :) |
| 22:55.07 | NeoTron | did they at least ninja items the could use? |
| 22:55.18 | Chompers | paladin got a totem |
| 22:55.24 | Chompers | druid got the dagger |
| 22:55.25 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 22:55.29 | NeoTron | great |
| 22:55.42 | NeoTron | and now they both got the opportunity to look for a new guild? |
| 22:55.46 | Arrowmaster | did they get a swift gkick? |
| 22:55.49 | Chompers | fucking hope so |
| 22:56.11 | NeoTron | even if they didn't do it on purpose, they are too dumb to raid :P |
| 22:56.12 | Chompers | gms will discuss it tomorrow |
| 22:56.22 | NeoTron | were they regular raiders or trials? |
| 22:56.39 | Chompers | brand new members, joined a few days ago |
| 22:56.57 | Chompers | a little rough around the edges, but seemed okay |
| 22:57.02 | Chaud|AFK | So now they got free loot and can xfer away in a month =p |
| 22:57.10 | NightHawkAtWork | free useless loot :P |
| 22:57.14 | Chaud | =( |
| 22:57.21 | Chompers | man, that paladin will have such fun with his totem! |
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| 22:57.40 | keiss | isnt there a BgiWigs mods to switch loot mode automatically on Vashj ? :) |
| 22:57.45 | NightHawkAtWork | keiss: yes |
| 22:57.49 | Chompers | probably |
| 22:57.49 | NightHawkAtWork | keiss: or some mod, at least. |
| 22:57.55 | keiss | use it ;) |
| 22:58.12 | NightHawkAtWork | keiss: indeed. :) which is why i say not switching to ml is kinda silly, when such tools are available. |
| 22:58.15 | Chompers | if you can't trust your members to ninja items, would you want to raid with them? |
| 22:58.18 | Chompers | i don't |
| 22:58.34 | NightHawkAtWork | feh, i don't trust anyone |
| 22:58.47 | keiss | tbh ... i dont have to 'trust' everyone to raid with them |
| 22:59.08 | keiss | unless you're in a situation where you know everyone IRL , you can harldy trust them |
| 22:59.08 | NightHawkAtWork | and, really, there's the possibility it was just a stupid mistake/misclick, its not worth risking that when the solution is so easy |
| 22:59.12 | Chaud | But you put your life in their hands! |
| 22:59.28 | keiss | NightHawkAtWork: exactly |
| 22:59.28 | Chaud | clearly trustworthiness necessary |
| 22:59.39 | Elsia | hmm how can I do SVPC db with AceDB-3.0? recount really doesn't want to load all character's stored data :P |
| 23:00.01 | NeoTron | if you managed to get to level 70. able to raid SSC/TK and beyond and don' know how BoP items works |
| 23:00.02 | Chompers | i think its them being stupid rather than being malicious |
| 23:00.09 | NeoTron | I wouldn't want them in the guild |
| 23:00.13 | Chompers | still, crappy end to the night |
| 23:00.38 | NeoTron | better question |
| 23:00.44 | NeoTron | did anyone ELSE want those items? |
| 23:00.53 | Chompers | i knew something was up when they had to be reminded to use blessing of freedom EVERY time |
| 23:00.55 | Chompers | sure did |
| 23:01.14 | Chompers | they've made tickets to get the items transfered, but i doubt that will work |
| 23:01.28 | NeoTron | it has worked for me |
| 23:01.29 | keiss | if it was on FFA , no chance |
| 23:01.34 | NeoTron | on bracers from attumen no less |
| 23:01.46 | NeoTron | depends on who helps you |
| 23:01.47 | keiss | thats a different matter NeoTron |
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| 23:03.35 | Chompers | we were going to use group loot for hyjal, but i'm not sure now |
| 23:03.42 | Chompers | i just don't trust some people |
| 23:04.07 | keiss | Chompers: in my experience , you dont need group loot there |
| 23:04.32 | Chompers | we tried it with 14 people last night, got to wave 7 with a master loot item on a trash mob |
| 23:04.36 | Chompers | it despawned :< |
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| 23:05.04 | keiss | Chompers: ok ... 'no need for a normal raid' |
| 23:05.16 | Chompers | it just sounds like it would be more efficent than having the master looter walk over and loot an item |
| 23:05.37 | keiss | Chompers: efficient sure , but if as you say you dont trust your members .. |
| 23:05.54 | Chompers | indeed |
| 23:06.04 | Chompers | they'd probably select need or something |
| 23:06.05 | keiss | Chompers: but tbh ... group loot == 25ppl have to focus on clicking greed/need |
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| 23:06.12 | Gnarfoz | what's to focus there |
| 23:06.15 | Gnarfoz | klick pass. |
| 23:06.16 | keiss | while they need to focus on killing a wave |
| 23:06.25 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon. |
| 23:06.30 | Chompers | it worked well in karazhan in our 'friends only' pugs |
| 23:06.41 | keiss | Gnarfoz: you need to look away from w/e youre doing even if its 2seconds ... thats loss of focus :D |
| 23:06.41 | Chompers | need or pass, enchanters greed |
| 23:06.42 | Gnarfoz | unless you need it, in which case you would recognize the item and click need accordingly |
| 23:06.53 | sdouble | I find it terribly annoying when people loot bodies while you're in combat |
| 23:06.54 | doc^bla | grouploot + passloot addon ftw^^ |
| 23:06.57 | sdouble | I'd like to shoot them in the head |
| 23:07.09 | Gnarfoz | sdouble: shoot yourself in the head instead, if you've ever been to hyjal :p |
| 23:07.42 | Chaud | "friends only" pugs =p |
| 23:07.57 | Chompers | sounds pretty fruity huh :P |
| 23:08.04 | Yssaril | we usually just run with FFA and have one designated looter (usually not someone 100% needed during combat) |
| 23:08.15 | Chaud | We have those for ZA once in a while, just put it on need/greed |
| 23:09.09 | keiss | i tell you what would be best ... a multi-ML mode |
| 23:09.17 | NeoTron | that would rock |
| 23:09.21 | Gnarfoz | trouble with FFA: if it's a BoP item, whoever actually wants it, has to find the body, which is even more chaotic than rolling for it in combat. ML is the worst of 'em all for hyjal trash |
| 23:09.35 | NeoTron | ML works fine |
| 23:09.39 | NeoTron | I do it all the time |
| 23:09.51 | EvilJohn | a loot queue would be nice |
| 23:09.55 | EvilJohn | for ML |
| 23:09.56 | keiss | Gnarfoz: we use ML in hyjal (iam ML actually) and no problems really |
| 23:10.04 | EvilJohn | kk |
| 23:10.13 | Gnarfoz | you're doing not much of anything else then, I guess? |
| 23:10.17 | doc^bla | after a few weeks in mh, looting isn't a problem anymore |
| 23:10.20 | NeoTron | main issue, or only issue, is that on the horde camps you're likely to not always be in range |
| 23:10.48 | keiss | Gnarfoz: why ? most of the times theres alot of time after you kill each wave to loot in peace |
| 23:10.55 | Gnarfoz | uhm... |
| 23:10.56 | EvilJohn | we pass on the item if you don't want it, otherwise /roll for interest, and if you win, you hit need |
| 23:11.13 | EvilJohn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.26 | Gnarfoz | I guess you're already at the 'lets farm MH real quick here' stage of raiding, then ;p |
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| 23:11.51 | Chompers | everything is a massive upgrade to us in MH, so there's an epgp system |
| 23:12.04 | keiss | one thing to note thou ... we dont use DKP, one-person decides loot distribution ... that might make it easier |
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| 23:12.31 | doc^bla | palatank=easymode in mh |
| 23:12.34 | Gnarfoz | that'd be totally unacceptable for us xD |
| 23:12.37 | Chompers | i don't want to imagine the whining that would cause |
| 23:12.43 | Chompers | jesus |
| 23:13.19 | Gnarfoz | also, I don't know htf epgp works, isn't it basically the same, the arbitrarity just spread out a bit more? |
| 23:13.37 | EvilJohn | it's like zero sum with a sliding window for dkp |
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| 23:15.21 | Chompers | well, you're giving effort points(ep) for doing good things |
| 23:15.29 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: we had our first 2 hr clear of hyjal last week |
| 23:15.30 | Fisker- | hai Chompers |
| 23:15.32 | Fisker- | we has gm |
| 23:15.38 | Shirik | Anyone can scroll up and tell me what my quit message was? |
| 23:15.40 | Chompers | you get gear points(gp) when you get gear or doing dumb stuff |
| 23:15.46 | Fisker- | http://i32.tinypic.com/2hxvcpl.jpg |
| 23:15.49 | Fisker- | win? or massive win? |
| 23:15.50 | Chompers | every raid both ep and gp are decayed by 10% |
| 23:16.00 | keiss | Shirik [n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 23:16.05 | Shirik | thanks |
| 23:16.33 | Chompers | all items have a formula applied to them that create a gp value |
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| 23:16.37 | Chompers | that's a bout it |
| 23:16.41 | Chompers | *about |
| 23:17.05 | Chompers | Fisker-: that's made of pure win x10 |
| 23:17.33 | Fisker- | yay |
| 23:18.38 | robotusch | Attention Fisker imo |
| 23:18.53 | Fisker- | din mor robotusch |
| 23:18.56 | robotusch | fu |
| 23:19.02 | Fisker- | fu |
| 23:19.09 | Chompers | -bar |
| 23:19.09 | charon | Chompers: then what? the guy with the highest ep-gp difference gets it? |
| 23:19.11 | robotusch | Fu_Fu in fact |
| 23:19.15 | Chompers | oh, yeah |
| 23:19.15 | keiss | black chicken of death , wtf is that ? :D |
| 23:19.26 | robotusch | spawned by the gm presumably |
| 23:19.26 | Chompers | so, you get a third number called Priority |
| 23:19.35 | Chompers | i think its ep / gp |
| 23:19.57 | Chompers | whoever is highest can have the item, if they don't want it it goes to second on priority |
| 23:19.58 | Chompers | and so on |
| 23:19.59 | keiss | Chompers: sounds like a simple system *giggles* |
| 23:20.03 | charon | i see |
| 23:20.03 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:20.35 | Arrowmaster | El Pollo Grande <The Black Chicken of Death> is spawned from the warlock infernal questline |
| 23:20.44 | charon | keiss: numbers do have the advantage that they're obviously impartial |
| 23:21.14 | Chompers | it works pretty well, the people who raid alot jump back up the prio list after getting an item |
| 23:21.26 | keiss | charon: in the end the bumbers are made by rules made by man, and those rules are never impartial anyway, one way or the other |
| 23:22.45 | charon | i think the problem is somewhere else... if you have a human decide things, _someone_ will eventually claim he was treated unfairly |
| 23:22.59 | charon | that claim is very hard to support if you have the rules laid out beforehand, and just run the numbers thereafter |
| 23:23.09 | keiss | exactly, so its just a virtual sense of fairness .. |
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| 23:24.29 | Gnarfoz | even more so: "good things" and "dumb stuff" is pretty arbitrary |
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| 23:29.07 | Yssaril | if you declare a local within a if then statement is it only local within the statement or can i get it after the statement from within the same function? |
| 23:29.20 | kagaro | http://ace.pastey.net/82991 |
| 23:29.34 | keiss | you cant |
| 23:29.39 | kagaro | that code gies me issues when a frame scale is set, any thoughts? |
| 23:30.52 | Dashkal | lua> if true then local a = 2; print(a); end; print(a); |
| 23:30.52 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 2, nil |
| 23:31.00 | Dashkal | a is lost outside the if |
| 23:31.24 | Xinhuan | kagaro, you need to get the frame:GetEffectiveScale() and divide by it |
| 23:31.32 | Xinhuan | to get the actual coordinate |
| 23:31.45 | kagaro | gotcha |
| 23:31.51 | Yssaril | Dashkal: thanks :) |
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| 23:32.04 | Xinhuan | this applies to all frame related :getblah() that has to do with position |
| 23:32.14 | Xinhuan | Yssaril: the former |
| 23:32.48 | Xinhuan | in Lua, a variable has a scope equal to the largest possible block |
| 23:33.03 | Xinhuan | so if a variable isn't defined, its largest possible scope is global scope |
| 23:33.17 | Xinhuan | followed by file scope, then block scope, etc |
| 23:33.31 | thul | did everyone get age of conan beta now? |
| 23:33.54 | doc^bla | not me :( |
| 23:34.03 | thul | I did |
| 23:34.13 | thul | I hardly remember signing up :-P |
| 23:34.21 | thul | Congratulations and welcome to the Technical Beta! |
| 23:34.22 | thul | Are you ready to crush your foes in mortal combat? The time for another PvP Tech Test is upon us, and you have been chosen to participate! |
| 23:35.06 | Chaud | so log on and tell me about it =( |
| 23:35.08 | doc^bla | the client is huge^ |
| 23:35.25 | doc^bla | like 25gb |
| 23:35.41 | keiss | lol |
| 23:36.33 | Recluse | is there a DogTag for changing the font face or size? |
| 23:36.48 | Elsia | That look sane for acedb-3.0 use or is that going to conflict with the profile/datatype thing? |
| 23:36.50 | Elsia | http://ace.pastey.net/82992 |
| 23:37.03 | thul | OME INFORMATION FOR YOU... |
| 23:37.04 | thul | YOUR ACCOUNT HAS BEEN CREATED AND YOUR SUBSCRIPTION CYCLE HAS BEEN SET. |
| 23:37.14 | Chaud | USELESS. |
| 23:38.00 | elusif | i got 24 ban for harrassment: orientation |
| 23:38.07 | Antiarc | So, I've been getting a ton of email in my gmail account lately |
| 23:38.12 | Antiarc | So I figured I'd go clean it out |
| 23:38.14 | Antiarc | Then I notice |
| 23:38.16 | Antiarc | You are currently using 568 MB (8%) of your 6462 MB. |
| 23:38.18 | elusif | i mean harrassment: sexual orientation |
| 23:38.20 | Antiarc | lol. Nevermind. |
| 23:38.31 | keiss | i bet they choose everyone that checked 'currently playing WoW' :D ... |
| 23:38.33 | elusif | gmail spy on you! |
| 23:38.44 | Antiarc | I really don't care if gmail indexes my email |
| 23:38.51 | Antiarc | They'll get a lot of cron job status reports |
| 23:39.32 | Chaud | You are currently using 210 MB (3%) of your 6462 MB. |
| 23:39.35 | Chaud | =( |
| 23:40.26 | Gngsk | http://pizdaus.com/pics/X3gK4ggaFNwg.jpg lulzcat |
| 23:41.06 | robotusch | animated .jpg? I seem to have missed something :< |
| 23:41.32 | Ellipsis | misnamed gif |
| 23:41.37 | Ellipsis | I haet when people do that >:( |
| 23:41.48 | Chaud | I was hoping for “KEYLOGGER” |
| 23:41.58 | keiss | X3gK4ggaFNwg.jpg: GIF image data, version 89a, 301 x 197 , no keylogger :) |
| 23:42.44 | Snago | Gngsk: omg, I can't stop laughing! :D |
| 23:43.09 | elusif | it's just embarassing with gmail monitoring me when people are around the house using google and all the adverts are for swedish penis enlargers.... |
| 23:43.22 | *** join/#wowace By_Turkey (n=yenimIRC@85.102.86.231) |
| 23:43.23 | By_Turkey | 4,1www.MircAlemTR.com < - < - < - Turkey GirLs Chat Channel . |
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| 23:43.32 | elusif | omfog |
| 23:43.47 | elusif | i can't believe that just happened on freenode. |
| 23:43.49 | Thorgard | Beastiality! |
| 23:43.50 | doc^bla | didn't you ever want that? |
| 23:43.50 | robotusch | yeah, I really feel like clicking that |
| 23:44.10 | robotusch | meh |
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| 23:44.17 | Chaud | rofl |
| 23:44.23 | robotusch | looks like Blizz have given up on rolling restarts :/ |
| 23:45.07 | kenlyric | they had them last week |
| 23:45.23 | Fisker- | your mother robotusch |
| 23:45.28 | Thorgard | Aww shucks.. Stage6 is closin' its doors. |
| 23:45.56 | kenlyric | where will go for high quality pvp videos? |
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| 23:46.59 | CIA-9 | 03kivin * r63002 10KivinSpamGuard/rules/english.lua: KivinSpamGuard: enUS filter updates courtesy of ssegames dot com. |
| 23:48.11 | elusif | is there a way to check which is the best pvp guild on my realm and who's the best pvpv rogue? |
| 23:48.37 | NightHawkAtWork | given that definitions of "best" are inherently subjective.. "no" |
| 23:48.42 | thul | I am |
| 23:48.51 | doc^bla | the one with the biggest bulge in his pants |
| 23:49.06 | thul | again, I am |
| 23:49.17 | Chaud | http://www.gankbang.com |
| 23:49.22 | elusif | i will be the best in every way when i reach 70 |
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| 23:49.29 | elusif | i can beat people 10 levels above me |
| 23:49.35 | thul | haha |
| 23:49.37 | thul | drem on |
| 23:49.38 | thul | :-P |
| 23:49.47 | NightHawkAtWork | well, you're clearly not the best at being modest.. so.. you already fail |
| 23:49.52 | elusif | i walk around IF offering people a few levels higher 10g if they beat me |
| 23:50.00 | elusif | modesty is for suckers! |
| 23:50.08 | NightHawkAtWork | maybe so, but you said every way. |
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| 23:50.36 | Chaud | Why aren’t you 70 =\ |
| 23:51.01 | elusif | and god forbid someone i'm about to duel calls me a noob |
| 23:51.07 | elusif | because i level really really slowly |
| 23:51.11 | elusif | because i quest by rep not xp |
| 23:51.25 | NightHawkAtWork | thats, kinda pathetic. |
| 23:51.29 | elusif | and i work towards the bet pvp rewards, quest rewards and instance drops every 10 levels |
| 23:51.33 | elusif | for bgs |
| 23:51.59 | Chaud | Why |
| 23:52.03 | Gnarfoz | well, seeing that you don't gain anything from BGs below 70 that will benefit you at 70 |
| 23:52.04 | elusif | because i enjoy bgs |
| 23:52.08 | Chaud | Why |
| 23:52.09 | elusif | ya |
| 23:52.13 | elusif | but it benefits me now |
| 23:52.19 | Gnarfoz | that's just plain stupid :D - besides being fun, if you really enjoy it :P |
| 23:52.21 | elusif | i like killing the opposing faction players |
| 23:52.27 | Chaud | rofl |
| 23:52.30 | elusif | i really do enjoy it |
| 23:52.39 | Chaud | Getting from 58-70 is not that long |
| 23:52.40 | elusif | i enjoy stopping them from winning |
| 23:52.44 | Chaud | why bother waiting |
| 23:52.46 | elusif | i take pleasure in their loss |
| 23:52.49 | elusif | i'm at 48 |
| 23:53.01 | Chaud | .... |
| 23:53.15 | elusif | also i get to perfect my pvp tactic every 10 levels rather than jumping in at the deep end at 70 |
| 23:53.26 | Chaud | How long have you been playing |
| 23:53.30 | JoshBorke | everything changes at 70 |
| 23:53.33 | elusif | i'm questing for rep as opposed to xp because i hate the gnome mount and want a ram |
| 23:53.59 | elusif | since like july last year but with this character only a few months |
| 23:54.07 | elusif | i moved to a pvp realm because normal realms are lame |
| 23:54.15 | Chaud | 70 is nothing like fighting random people that never make it to 70, keyboard turn, and are bad in general |
| 23:54.36 | elusif | 70 will be really hard at first |
| 23:54.40 | Kivin | So you just float around the low levels ganking random strangers and stroking your ePeen. nice. |
| 23:54.44 | Chaud | Just zerg 48 to 70 in like 2 weeks at most |
| 23:54.45 | elusif | because i'll have shit gear compared to alot of them |
| 23:54.58 | Chaud | I just finished my alt after ~2 months at 70 |
| 23:55.01 | elusif | kivin - the 'low levels' you ref to are the level that i'm at |
| 23:55.04 | Chaud | 1 month just logging on for arenas |
| 23:55.13 | charon | seen in #warzone2100: http://zip.4chan.org/g/src/1204055426821.png |
| 23:55.16 | charon | night guys |
| 23:55.23 | elusif | when i'm in bgs i'm mostly against people at 49 |
| 23:55.27 | Chaud | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gurubashi&n=Skilledcoil |
| 23:55.36 | elusif | and i rarely duel someone a lower level than me |
| 23:55.45 | elusif | but i will ofc gank any level i can when in the world |
| 23:55.45 | Chaud | my alt that I geared somewhat quick for not having a lot of time to log on |
| 23:55.49 | elusif | it is a pvp server. |
| 23:56.01 | elusif | k |
| 23:56.03 | elusif | i'll have a look |
| 23:56.16 | Chaud | welfare trade channel, no point buying, ect |
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| 23:57.16 | elusif | it's really slow to load chaud |
| 23:57.18 | Chaud | there is no point to messing around at lower levels |
| 23:57.22 | elusif | what's welfare trade channel? |
| 23:57.26 | Chaud | arena teams |
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| 23:57.35 | elusif | ya i've only ever played practice arena |
| 23:57.59 | elusif | that link won't load btw |
| 23:58.11 | Primer | wowarmory is dog slow today |
| 23:58.33 | Chaud | it loads in ~5s for me =\ |
| 23:58.41 | Chaud | anyway, the point is, why stay at low levels |
| 23:58.48 | Chaud | just get to 70 and gear up |
| 23:59.01 | elusif | because i enjoy fighting so much along the way and having imba gear |
| 23:59.15 | elusif | i don't want to be 60 with shit gear when some horde jumps over a hill |
| 23:59.19 | Chaud | make a twink? |
| 23:59.24 | elusif | no this is my main |
| 23:59.33 | Chaud | IDK what to say |
| 23:59.35 | elusif | but i have imba gear |
| 23:59.46 | Chaud | sure gearing up sucks, but you are essentially making a twink as it is |
| 23:59.50 | Chaud | minus some enchants, ect |
| 23:59.51 | elusif | i haven't twinked him but he has alot of enchants and i'vebought some of the gear |
