| 00:00.25 | Ellipsis | do they have one for gyro-balanced khorium destroyer? |
| 00:00.42 | FtH|Daemona | on my server its Staff of Jordan |
| 00:00.48 | FtH|Daemona | or Dirge |
| 00:00.54 | Dashkal | Might be an idea to make such a mod that you just add "blacklisted" links to |
| 00:00.56 | Civrock | Warglaive. |
| 00:01.06 | Dashkal | alt-right-click on a link and you never see it again :p |
| 00:01.27 | Kivin | on CC, they just spam links to everything under the sun |
| 00:01.43 | Dashkal | in your case, just block anything with a link, or /leave trade :p |
| 00:01.44 | Kivin | [Thunderfury][Warglaive][Some Random Kaelthas Weapon] |
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| 00:05.21 | Tem|AFK | I like to post links to thunderfury in different languages |
| 00:05.25 | Dashkal | WTB [Staff of Disintegration] |
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| 00:05.35 | Elsia | heya |
| 00:05.36 | Dashkal | I'm not entirely sure that's always ironic either... |
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| 00:06.55 | Chaud | [The Nicker] |
| 00:07.22 | Amadeo | The Blackrock Slicer |
| 00:07.26 | Chaud | no <3 |
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| 00:11.37 | JakeM | http://afkgamer.com/archives/2008/02/18/your-raid/ |
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| 00:15.07 | Wobin_ | "the engineer demonstrated a subcutaneously implanted touch-screen that operates as a cell phone display, with the potential for 3G video calls that are visible just underneath the skin." |
| 00:15.10 | Wobin_ | aieeeee |
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| 00:15.57 | Wobin_ | Then again. Holding your forearm up to your ear makes you look like a complete prat =P |
| 00:17.25 | Josh_Borke | put it in your hand |
| 00:18.44 | Wobin_ | Josh_Borke: It looks a little bulky for that to be comfortable |
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| 00:28.14 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r63264 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Add Cartographer_Waypoints to right click menu if it is loaded and active. |
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| 00:37.43 | Elsia | hmm how can WWS calculate overhealing |
| 00:38.49 | ramoz | hm |
| 00:38.50 | Primer | !rating 1975 |
| 00:39.43 | Primer | Xinhuan: fix it |
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| 00:42.07 | Dashkal | 776/869/1021 (bored and have wowarmory open atm) |
| 00:42.09 | ulic | Elsia: well parrot shows me over healing, so I assume it's in the log someplace. |
| 00:43.55 | Elsia | well I can tell you how recount does it and how parser-3.0 used to do it |
| 00:44.26 | Elsia | you take the target and check UnitHealthMax(target) |
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| 00:44.40 | Elsia | and see if healing went over, but WWS can |
| 00:44.48 | Elsia | can't check UnitHealthMax |
| 00:45.03 | Elsia | or UnitHealt() for that matter, which you check to get the deficiency |
| 00:45.46 | Elsia | so not sure how WWS estimates health without having that call available because the combat log only shows raw heals, independent of how much actually landed |
| 00:46.15 | Elsia | parrot 2.3 gets it from parser-3.0 which contains that above overhealing calculation |
| 00:46.42 | Ellipsis | (there is no Parrot 2.4 yet...) |
| 00:46.56 | FtH|Daemona | anyone know a "simple" addon to simply black/white mark whispers like "i want only to see whispers from guildmates and people above lvl 20" |
| 00:48.05 | Xinhuan | such addons are far from simple |
| 00:48.12 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's not as easy as it sounds |
| 00:48.18 | Xinhuan | since the addon has no way of knowing the level of the player that sent you a whisper |
| 00:48.24 | Xinhuan | without doing a /who on him |
| 00:48.37 | Xinhuan | and if so, that requires delaying whispers until you get a /who reply |
| 00:49.18 | Elsia | whitelisting guildies is easy though, and maybe for outsiders one can tolerate the delay for the first whisper? |
| 00:49.47 | FtH|Daemona | i have no problem with delaying the first whisper |
| 00:50.07 | FtH|Daemona | i am used to it, as i am using wim, but the spamblocker that comes with it doesnt cut it ;) |
| 00:50.27 | Elsia | problem is mostly when a lot of new whispers come in quickly, then the /who backlog can get rather long |
| 00:51.42 | FtH|Daemona | well the only way then probably is disabling WIM and redirecting whispers to a "not on top" chat window ;) |
| 00:54.24 | Ellipsis | do textures in fontstrings resize to fit the height of the font? |
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| 00:57.08 | Elsia | hmm I see WWS only estimates overhealing via damage taken compared to healing taken |
| 00:57.42 | Ellipsis | doesn't seem like such a bad way to do it, given you have no more accurate data |
| 00:58.29 | Elsia | yeah it's rather sensible. it's just a difference between online meters and WWS where online can actually be more accurate |
| 00:59.24 | Elsia | you'd expect for WWS to underestimate overhealing actually and certainly get the distribution between multiple healers wrong |
| 00:59.38 | Elsia | the current formula kinda assumes equal distribution |
| 01:01.21 | Hjalte | Isn't there a PeriodicTable ingame browser? |
| 01:01.39 | aestil | ckknight: can you make the player arrow on the minimap scalable? |
| 01:02.03 | ckknight | not sure on that |
| 01:02.06 | ckknight | make a jira ticket, though |
| 01:02.15 | Elsia | nite folks |
| 01:02.39 | xlvii | is there an addon for sorting the guild bank? or, can the source for mr. plow be edited to do it? |
| 01:02.52 | aestil | my wife has wau older version. |
| 01:05.24 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r63265 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: - search function finally works! hooray! |
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| 01:15.25 | aestil | how do i remove a search toolbar from ff2? |
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| 01:16.33 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r63266 10BossTalk/BossTalk.toc: |
| 01:16.33 | CIA-9 | BossTalk: |
| 01:16.33 | CIA-9 | - Search function finally works for everyone |
| 01:16.34 | CIA-9 | - Updated externals |
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| 01:24.08 | Hjalte | "Warning: You do not have Detailed Loot Information enabled in Advanced Interface Options. Group loot events willl not function properly." - It just doesn't tell me what addon is complaining :\ |
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| 01:25.18 | Ellipsis | lua> t = { [1] = "a", [2] = "b", [4] = "c" }; for k,v in ipairs(t) do print(k, v) end |
| 01:25.19 | lua_bot | Ellipsis: 1, a, 2, b |
| 01:25.31 | Ellipsis | lua> t = { [1] = "a", [2] = "b", [4] = "c" }; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k, v) end |
| 01:25.31 | lua_bot | Ellipsis: 2, b, 1, a, 4, c |
| 01:25.39 | Ellipsis | eh, that works |
| 01:25.43 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63267 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen: cleanup |
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| 01:33.05 | Dashkal | Meh, you know you're a hopeless geek when you see a chunk of code and are compelled to find a way to do it sorted *shoots self* |
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| 01:50.37 | Dashkal | Oh fine |
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| 01:57.13 | Dashkal | alrighty, home time |
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| 01:59.49 | [Ammo] | 1 whiskey 2 whiskey 3 whiskey |
| 01:59.50 | [Ammo] | tralala |
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| 02:08.00 | Moralis | hi guys |
| 02:09.11 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63268 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: cleanups |
| 02:09.23 | Funkeh` | [Ammo], having a party/ |
| 02:09.26 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 02:09.54 | Moralis | too quiet in here |
| 02:11.24 | Funkeh` | sleep time |
| 02:11.36 | nymbia | Funkeh`: terrible |
| 02:11.50 | Funkeh` | nymbia, don't get me satrted on your lazy ass |
| 02:11.56 | nymbia | :( |
| 02:12.01 | Moralis | oh ok , i am first time here |
| 02:12.17 | nymbia | PS how much of my crap breaks in 2.4 |
| 02:12.24 | Moralis | and a coder doesnt have normal sleeptimes |
| 02:12.35 | Funkeh` | nymbia, nothing I don't think |
| 02:12.39 | Funkeh` | maybe swing timer |
| 02:12.42 | Funkeh` | never use that though |
| 02:12.49 | Moralis | lol |
| 02:13.01 | nymbia | probably the interrupt thing too |
| 02:13.06 | nymbia | i think it parses.. |
| 02:13.10 | Funkeh` | nymbia, I assume swing timer would use the old combat log system |
| 02:13.15 | Funkeh` | or interupt |
| 02:13.17 | Funkeh` | whatever ;p |
| 02:13.35 | nymbia | and mobmitigation is probably blown to shit (unless the parser libs got updated for some reason) |
| 02:13.47 | Funkeh` | no that won't happen |
| 02:13.52 | nymbia | yeah no reason for it |
| 02:14.36 | nymbia | and theres that one little thing uh |
| 02:14.41 | nymbia | CombatAnnounce |
| 02:14.46 | Arrowmaster | we get to go apeshit on whoever bumps a parser toc or babble-spell toc too! |
| 02:14.49 | nymbia | that's nothing but parse so it's toast |
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| 02:15.01 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: amazing |
| 02:15.07 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: why babble? |
| 02:15.09 | Funkeh` | Ill revert hes ass |
| 02:15.12 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 02:15.14 | Arrowmaster | can we make toc bumping a parser lib or babble-spell an svn ban? |
| 02:15.35 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: everything babble spell does is in 2.4 now |
| 02:15.41 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, You never seen me reverting someones ass I guess, nymbia knows the score |
| 02:15.48 | nymbia | that's pretty much amazing |
| 02:16.15 | Funkeh` | nymbia, GetSpellInfo(id) for al your needs, wowhead.com for ids |
| 02:16.16 | Arrowmaster | except using spellid instead of english name as the base |
| 02:16.30 | Arrowmaster | although actually i dont think we can get spellids for buffs yet |
| 02:16.41 | Arrowmaster | but we need to keep asking for that one until we get it |
| 02:16.41 | nymbia | Funkeh`: no shit. |
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| 02:16.55 | nymbia | Funkeh`: how much info does it give? |
| 02:17.01 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, as in UnitBuff? |
| 02:17.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:17.20 | Arrowmaster | or did that actually change? |
| 02:17.24 | Funkeh` | nope |
| 02:17.27 | Funkeh` | would be nice |
| 02:17.29 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 02:17.49 | Arrowmaster | just change the name to spellid and send it through getspellinfo() |
| 02:17.52 | Nandini | it has been requested a dozen times with no real response |
| 02:18.31 | Nandini | yeah you still have to have localization for that tho |
| 02:18.38 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: but for a lot of buffs you'd need to have a buff name -> spell table |
| 02:18.50 | Funkeh` | nymbia, http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0/Consolidated_API_changes#Spell_Functions |
| 02:19.19 | Arrowmaster | with all the other changes this patch they should just say fuck it and redo the returns from all the buff funcs to give spellids instead of texture and name |
| 02:19.58 | Nandini | grr you can pass spellId as an arg to GetSpellInfo and it gives back a name, but if you pass spellName it still just gives you back a name |
| 02:20.13 | Funkeh` | so? |
| 02:20.38 | Nandini | if they allow you to pass an id or name as arg, why don't they return id and name as results? |
| 02:20.50 | Arrowmaster | pass it to GetSpellLink instead |
| 02:20.59 | Funkeh` | Nandini, because theres a potentional of hundreds of ids to one name |
| 02:21.04 | Funkeh` | Nandini, wowhead.com |
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| 02:21.19 | Kreiger | sup guys. I think threat is borked.. |
| 02:21.20 | Arrowmaster | if you give it a name it picks from your spellbook only |
| 02:21.23 | Kreiger | er, omen |
| 02:21.24 | nymbia | great fun |
| 02:21.44 | nymbia | how big's the PTR download? |
| 02:21.44 | Arrowmaster | highest rank i think if you dont specific a rank |
| 02:21.45 | Nandini | that makes sense |
| 02:22.00 | Funkeh` | what Im doing at the moment is just getting the name from an ID and using that in comparison to unitbuff |
| 02:22.07 | Funkeh` | so it's not that big an issue |
| 02:22.15 | Arrowmaster | but i dont see how to get a link for a specific spell in your spellbook by spellbook index |
| 02:22.16 | Funkeh` | in the way of bigwigs at least |
| 02:22.22 | Kreiger | Anybiody here know why my pet's charge/growl/intimidate would no longer be counting for omen's threat? |
| 02:22.40 | Nandini | yeah you don't have multiple different debuffs with the same name really in the context of bosses i guess |
| 02:23.47 | Nandini | do any of the outdoor raid bosses do debuffs that are named the same as player debuffs? |
| 02:24.05 | Nandini | (just thinking on a pvp server, you always have to deal with opposite faction during those) |
| 02:25.06 | Funkeh` | would it matter? not sure but it would be different for unitbuff and unitdebuff anyway |
| 02:25.15 | Funkeh` | 'if you're talking about confusing them by name |
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| 02:26.01 | Funkeh` | But I haven't come across a situation where I used UnitBuff/Debuff for a boss with the same names |
| 02:26.10 | Funkeh` | I'm sure they exist, though |
| 02:26.56 | Nandini | i was just thinking if a world boss put a SW:Pain on someone, and there was an alert for that, it might trigger anytime an enemy priest dropped by and put their SW:Pain on someone, etc. |
| 02:27.02 | Arrowmaster | shadow word pain except none of those are outdoors |
| 02:27.40 | Funkeh` | fortunately |
| 02:28.09 | Funkeh` | but in that case you would use combat log |
| 02:28.12 | Funkeh` | usually |
| 02:28.14 | Funkeh` | with id |
| 02:28.33 | Arrowmaster | you would have to wait for damage or something from it though |
| 02:28.47 | Funkeh` | why |
| 02:28.52 | Arrowmaster | since the gains dont give source |
| 02:29.01 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 02:29.05 | Arrowmaster | your mean the spellid |
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| 02:29.50 | Funkeh` | I wasn't talking about the source I was talking about identifying when you were debuffed |
| 02:30.00 | Funkeh` | were we talking about the source? |
| 02:30.07 | Arrowmaster | i know what you ment now |
| 02:30.14 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 02:30.32 | Arrowmaster | but wait arent you using the combat log anyway? |
| 02:30.54 | Funkeh` | not always |
| 02:31.00 | Funkeh` | sometimes there isn't a mesage |
| 02:31.06 | Funkeh` | (bitch) |
| 02:31.58 | Funkeh` | It's a rare sometimes though |
| 02:32.19 | Funkeh` | I usually use UnitBuff for checking a spec of a class, tank/healer paladin etc |
| 02:32.25 | Funkeh` | for deciding a type of warning |
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| 02:34.56 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, watching terminator? |
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| 02:51.04 | Silowyi | anyone else having login problems? |
| 02:51.22 | Thrae|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV30Vd_CYqk <-- these parents are going to hell |
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| 03:06.55 | Wobin | Xinhuan: with Gathermate, is it possible to have the rings -below- the level of the minimap ore spots? |
| 03:12.24 | Josh_Borke | wobin: no |
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| 03:34.09 | CIA-9 | 03quezacolt * r63269 10Checklist2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:34.09 | CIA-9 | Checklist2: |
| 03:34.09 | CIA-9 | - The name of the list on the menu that is currently being used is now colored. |
| 03:34.09 | CIA-9 | - Added slash command /checklist2 setlist (case-sensitive) |
| 03:34.09 | CIA-9 | - Added German localization (Thanks Lunos!) |
| 03:34.09 | CIA-9 | - When entering a value into the "Remove multiple items" option that cannot be converted into a number, it now displays a message in chat instead of triggering an error. |
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| 03:55.22 | CIA-9 | Checklist2: |
| 03:55.23 | CIA-9 | - Accidentally used a variable that was not declared as global. |
| 03:55.23 | CIA-9 | - The "Welcome to Checklist2!" list no longer gets recreated after deleting it when the UI gets reloaded. |
| 03:55.54 | Quezacolt | woops, meant "Accidentally used a variable that was not declared as *local*"... :( |
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| 03:56.57 | Yssaril | lol wtb more globals :P |
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| 03:59.44 | Yssaril | check this out what do you all think how this would look as a unitframe art http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2097/test1xp3.jpg going for simple clean look |
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| 04:01.35 | Nandini | it's nice but it's very big. |
| 04:02.48 | Nandini | i made a set of frames with rotating statusbars and i found that i generally needed twice as much space to display the same amount of info when i used them |
| 04:02.54 | Yssaril | -- have a high res monitor so it's not that bad on mine :P also idk if thats the final scale yet |
| 04:03.23 | Nandini | but i gave up pretty quickly, i bet if you keep at it, you can come up with something great! |
| 04:04.44 | Yssaril | was thinking of either sticking a 3d player model, missing health in thousands or soulshard count in the middle there :) |
| 04:05.30 | Aeyan | I weaned myself off portraits |
| 04:05.35 | Nandini | if it's just for your own use (which i'd recommend, unless you want to spend the rest of your life telling people "no") put whatever works best for you :) |
| 04:05.40 | Aeyan | Think it makes for a cleaner look |
| 04:06.10 | Yssaril | Aeyan: tend to agree with ya :) and they suck up more frames :) |
| 04:06.17 | Aeyan | True |
| 04:06.59 | Yssaril | our main tank once accidentally enabled portraits for his raidframes during a raid :P we ended up calling a 5 min bio break shortly there after :) |
| 04:07.27 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 04:07.40 | Nandini | if you just used the standard portrait it's not an issue, textures that don't move or update use almost zero resources once they get drawn |
| 04:07.56 | Aeyan | Yeah, just static stuff |
| 04:07.59 | Nandini | but doubling the number of 3d models by adding playermodel frames is very expensive :) |
| 04:08.08 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 04:08.08 | Aeyan | 3d portraits in a 25 man would be exciting though |
| 04:08.09 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 04:08.37 | Nandini | i once did an AV with 3d models enabled, it was not pretty, i was down to about 12 fps running out the gates |
| 04:08.55 | Yssaril | running with 7 shamans is terrible too :P forest of totems :) |
| 04:09.17 | Nandini | i always turn down spell effects if i am with a bunch of shammies |
| 04:09.35 | Nandini | otherwise it's like a christmas tree exploded on the ground |
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| 04:10.08 | Aeyan | Haha |
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| 04:10.48 | Yssaril | btw how hard do you think it would be to generate a clickable uniframe that will only get clicked when you are actually over that texture? (was thinking of just stringing together a bunch of frames various sizes |
| 04:11.39 | Nandini | working with the secure header templates was not very intuitive for me |
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| 04:12.04 | Nandini | but if you look at code from other unit frame addons (especially very simple ones) it's not hard to learn by example |
| 04:12.09 | Aeyan | The only mod I ever wrote was 479 bytes |
| 04:12.32 | Yssaril | am basing my code of oUF and havent looked into the actual unit frame creation yet :) but was thinking of simply stealing some code :P |
| 04:12.50 | Nandini | also, you will always get a rectangle for catching clicks unfortunately |
| 04:13.06 | Nandini | i think you can change its insets tho |
| 04:14.09 | Nandini | the only exception is the minimap i think, it uses the mask to define what catches clicks |
| 04:14.59 | Nandini | but you can't mask other frames, the minimap is an exception. even using the playerportrait mask function (dont remember its name exactly) just puts a circular mask over the frame, it still catches clicks in a rectangle |
| 04:16.28 | Yssaril | http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7091/frameskp4.jpg was thinking of doing something like that (black stuff would be actual click able frame would use more prolly for higher accuracy) |
| 04:17.30 | Nandini | that's an interesting approach, but i think to do that, you'd actually have to create 7 unit frames per unit for catching secure clicks |
| 04:17.50 | Yssaril | Nandini: that was my plan :) |
| 04:18.08 | Yssaril | gonna be more than 7 frames though :P |
| 04:18.39 | Nandini | why not just make one obvious square feature in the middle that is used for clicks? |
| 04:18.51 | Nandini | (or rectangular) like a nameplate or something |
| 04:20.08 | Nandini | there's no rule that says the entire frame has to be clickable, i've seen some where you can only click portraits, etc. |
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| 04:20.22 | Yssaril | thought about it but the really nifty think i want to make is my petframe will basically go around the top of the player frame in a half circle :) and i want to make that half circle clickable but only where it is outside my player frame :P |
| 04:21.05 | Nandini | then give your pet "collar" a square buckle at one end you can click on :P |
| 04:21.14 | Yssaril | bah |
| 04:21.39 | Nandini | what you propose is very ambitious, but i'll be excited to see how it turns out! |
| 04:22.33 | Yssaril | if it goes anything like my last tests with rotating things it will work look all pretty and crap but will lower the best comp to single digit fps :P |
| 04:22.46 | Yssaril | who knew 10k textures would do that :P |
| 04:23.05 | Nandini | it's not the fact that there were 10k, it's that you changed them all :P |
| 04:24.00 | Yssaril | nope set them up once and then didnt tought them the rendering of them was the painfull part (the initial setup and rotations took like 10sec of wow being frozen though) |
| 04:24.30 | Yssaril | *tought --> touch |
| 04:24.53 | Nandini | hmm if you didn't change them at all after they were drawn, they shouldn't have impacted performance i don't think |
| 04:25.05 | Yssaril | they did :P |
| 04:25.23 | Nandini | they way i understood the engine is that the UI layer is composited once and then only areas that change between frames are recomposited |
| 04:25.50 | Yssaril | idk /shrug |
| 04:27.37 | Yssaril | btw wow only accepts TGA files that have height and widths ^2 right? |
| 04:27.47 | Nandini | yes |
| 04:27.58 | Nandini | but they can be rectangular (128x1024 for example) |
| 04:28.06 | Yssaril | kk |
| 04:28.25 | Yssaril | 256x256 will do perfectly then |
| 04:30.02 | Nandini | with two rotating frames, my computer was able to rotate them both completely around 360 degrees in 1 degree increments a total of 5000 times in one second |
| 04:30.17 | Nandini | (while blocking wow) |
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| 04:31.40 | Nandini | so if you're using a small number of textures, you shouldn't see much impact, floating point trig is pretty fast for rotating |
| 04:33.20 | Yssaril | Nandini: yea was thinking of using chunks of 10 degrees and rotate one of them till i can hide it and then rotate the next one and so on (texture slices will prolly be 12degrees to give some overlap |
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| 04:38.00 | Yssaril | lets see if my texture imports :) |
| 04:38.23 | Diao | wow |
| 04:38.29 | Diao | how do you ever beat hunter/druid as warr/druid :( |
| 04:38.32 | Diao | it's impossible |
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| 04:43.01 | Wobin | hibernate pet? |
| 04:44.54 | Yssaril | woot that dosn't even look half bad http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/150/wowscrnshot022908224341sx5.jpg |
| 04:45.52 | Yssaril | will work on ToT focus parts of the texture tomorrow :) |
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| 04:58.46 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
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| 05:02.29 | mikma | Yssaril: what's that |
| 05:02.47 | Yssaril | texture i am working on for my unitframes :) |
| 05:03.40 | mikma | looked like you're coding the rogue-o-meter |
| 05:03.53 | Yssaril | nope |
| 05:04.27 | Yssaril | http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2097/test1xp3.jpg might give you a better look at it :) |
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| 05:10.27 | Zhinjio | <-- emo, tonight. I apologize ahead of time. A couple too many drinks, etc. |
| 05:10.57 | Yssaril | anyone know of an event when my pets target changes? |
| 05:11.44 | Arrowmaster | there isnt one |
| 05:12.11 | Arrowmaster | wait pets target? not pets targets target? |
| 05:12.32 | Yssaril | just pet target |
| 05:13.08 | Yssaril | dont really care what the pets target is looking at :) |
| 05:13.48 | Arrowmaster | "UNIT_TARGET" |
| 05:13.59 | Arrowmaster | with arg1 being the unitid |
| 05:14.19 | Arrowmaster | so if arg1 == "pettarget" |
| 05:15.13 | Arrowmaster | its fired when it changes so it might get fired when your pet losses target |
| 05:15.47 | Yssaril | cool will have a look at it and see if it works for what i need |
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| 05:35.02 | Ewinz87 | hey guys, im looking for an addon i use to have, i cant find it anymore and dont remember, it adds a grid all over the screen so you can position your addons perfectly, would anyone happen to know the name of this addon? |
| 05:35.18 | Arrowmaster | Align from wowinterface |
| 05:35.31 | Ewinz87 | nice thats it i remember now, thx alot |
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| 05:37.05 | Ewinz87 | also i was wondering is there some place where people are sharing pitbull layouts? i know theres a thread about it but anything else? |
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| 05:46.35 | Ewinz87 | hey ckknight, is there any way to minimize the rock configuration window? sometimes its open and when im playing on other addons gui i mouse over rock window and it automaticly get over it making it impossible to click on my previous window :P i constantly need to move it |
| 05:47.26 | ckknight | you can mouse off of it, which makes it transparent |
| 05:47.27 | ckknight | or close it |
| 05:47.31 | ckknight | or shrink it |
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| 05:49.19 | kd3 | ptrs up |
| 05:49.30 | Ewinz87 | o |
| 05:49.42 | Ellipsis | woot |
| 05:50.24 | Ewinz87 | how do i shrink it? |
| 05:50.52 | Ellipsis | drag the bottom right corner where the little handle is |
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| 05:51.20 | Ewinz87 | oh my, thats awesome!! ty |
| 05:51.25 | Ewinz87 | gj |
| 05:52.00 | ckknight | Ewinz87: drag the bottom-right corner |
| 05:52.17 | Ewinz87 | ya just got it to work :D |
| 05:52.37 | Ewinz87 | didnt notice it before :P |
| 05:58.02 | Antiarc | Hahah |
| 05:58.07 | Antiarc | My brother discovered MPQ editors |
| 05:58.10 | Antiarc | And made this: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/xspf_player.swf?song_title=Stealth&song_url=http://wow.tachyonsix.com/Stealth.mp3 |
| 05:58.12 | Ellipsis | whoa, PTR fixed smart follow camera |
| 05:58.42 | Ellipsis | ...but broke autoloot |
| 06:01.14 | aestil | i have made about 1kg since transfering. |
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| 06:01.19 | Wobin | Antiarc: rofl |
| 06:01.31 | Wobin | A long slow death =P |
| 06:01.49 | Wobin | in the fine tradition of tracking =P |
| 06:03.40 | Fin | does anyone /reload |
| 06:03.42 | Fin | hmm |
| 06:03.44 | Fin | -that! |
| 06:03.48 | Fin | right, start again |
| 06:04.01 | Fin | does anyone know of an addon that helps in the Shartuul fight? :) |
| 06:05.35 | Ellipsis | I heard magic fairy dust helped |
| 06:06.33 | Fin | actually |
| 06:06.37 | Fin | there is magic dust in the game |
| 06:06.41 | Fin | so NYER |
| 06:06.49 | Fin | it's awesome |
| 06:06.52 | Ellipsis | but is it magic fairy dust? |
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| 06:07.28 | Fin | hmm |
| 06:07.30 | Fin | maybe |
| 06:08.06 | Fin | yeah |
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| 06:12.20 | Lukian | Fin, hmm an addon there would be nice.. |
| 06:12.39 | Lukian | Fin, maybe a littlewigs module? |
| 06:12.41 | aestil | Ellipsis: can you make a jira tickete for me? |
| 06:13.08 | Ellipsis | you have a jira account |
| 06:13.15 | aestil | Ellipsis: i may be drenk |
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| 06:15.59 | theoddone33 | !points 350 |
| 06:15.59 | Xinhuan | 350 arena points require 1506(5s), 1547(3s) and 1597(2s) team rating. |
| 06:16.12 | theoddone33 | !rating 1593 |
| 06:16.12 | Xinhuan | 1593 rating gives 456(5s), 401(3s) and 346(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 06:16.15 | Ewinz87 | is there any way to reduce the size of the flat borderstyle in chinchilla ? |
| 06:16.23 | Ellipsis | use thin instead |
| 06:16.41 | Ewinz87 | yeah i tried but i want it larger |
| 06:16.47 | Ellipsis | then use flat :P |
| 06:16.55 | Ewinz87 | too large :P i need between :P |
| 06:16.57 | Ellipsis | because of the way the minimap borders work, you can't just have a slider for border thickness |
| 06:17.03 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r63271 10aX_RaidStatus/RaidStatusCore.lua: |
| 06:17.03 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 06:17.03 | CIA-9 | - Fix: When joining a raid the bars will show up automatically ~again~ |
| 06:17.03 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Docking Issues |
| 06:17.03 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Nil error on changing status bar textures. |
| 06:17.04 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Anchor Scaling. |
| 06:17.05 | Ewinz87 | i tried editing the tga fiel but |
| 06:17.20 | Ewinz87 | hmm im a photoshop noob |
| 06:17.42 | Ewinz87 | i dont even know if its a good way to edit tga files, theyre automaticly assosiate with photoshop on my computer lol |
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| 06:28.09 | Hrack | Is there any reason why oRA2's main tank assignments are case sensitive now? Like if I try to assign testuser to mt window when his name is Testuser, it will not display a window, unless i capitalize his T |
| 06:28.54 | Fin | Elli |
| 06:29.38 | Fin | all of a sudden, Pitbull has started highlighting my player's unit frame whenever he has anything happen to him, like being targetted or being debuffed or something |
| 06:30.01 | Fin | I've deleted Pitbull_Highlight (_Hilight?) completely from my computer, and I can't figure out what it is |
| 06:30.04 | Fin | is it something to do with you? |
| 06:32.17 | Fin | Lukian: yeah! that's what I was thinking, sort of |
| 06:33.24 | Zhinjio | <3 Ellipsis. |
| 06:35.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Man, the world is a more fucked up place than I even thought it was. |
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| 06:42.21 | Recluse | does ace add a /clear (ish) command to clear the chatbox contents? |
| 06:42.59 | Wobin | not afaik |
| 06:43.26 | Recluse | well, AceConsole i suppose would be the part of ace that'd have it |
| 06:43.40 | Fin | Recluse: no, but I do |
| 06:43.46 | Fin | -I+Prat's /clear module |
| 06:43.50 | Fin | +es |
| 06:44.31 | Recluse | ah, so it's a prat thing |
| 06:44.39 | Fin | to recap - in English this time - Prat's Clear module adds a /clear command for clearing the contents of chat frames |
| 06:44.45 | Fin | well, it's a Prat module thing |
| 06:44.58 | Fin | why do you ask? |
| 06:45.49 | Ellipsis | Fin: you mean a glowy border around the edge? turn off debuff highlighting :) |
| 06:46.00 | Recluse | Fin: ah, was just not enabled (i have prat) - it's just that i was trying to figure it out - i knew at some point that i could do something like /clear, but it hadn't been working lately XD guess it was prat and not ace that was behind it |
| 06:46.32 | Fin | Ellipsis: aHA! I knew it! you ARE responsible! |
| 06:46.35 | Nandini | Ellipsis: even after uninstalling OmniCC, i still get very odd behavior with buffs getting mixed up across frames, and i can't find a pattern at all |
| 06:46.39 | Ellipsis | I am not! it was like that before |
| 06:46.43 | Fin | was nto |
| 06:46.45 | Fin | -to+ot |
| 06:46.49 | Recluse | all better now :p i like to clear my chatbox when taking ss's of my ui is all |
| 06:46.53 | Ellipsis | it might have reset your settings if ck changed the defaults |
| 06:46.56 | Fin | but thanks for telling me what I need to do to get rid of it! |
| 06:47.02 | Ellipsis | but *I* didn't do anything which would reset them |
| 06:47.05 | Ellipsis | so blame him, not me |
| 06:47.09 | Fin | Recluse: ah, righto |
| 06:47.16 | Ellipsis | Nandini: with latest rev? I haven't had any issues recently |
| 06:47.22 | Fin | Ellipsis: guilty by proxy! |
| 06:47.29 | Nandini | yup, my buffs were getting switched with party member's buffs |
| 06:47.35 | Ellipsis | I fixed that! |
| 06:47.37 | Ellipsis | >:( |
| 06:47.51 | Nandini | debuff highlights were showing up on frames that had no debuffs at all (filtering is disabled for buffs and debuffs) |
| 06:48.01 | Nandini | had no VISIBLE debuffs that is, they really were debuffed |
| 06:48.14 | Nandini | the debuff highlighting was right, the debuff icon was just missing |
| 06:48.28 | Ellipsis | didn't you set your # debuffs to 0 / disable debuffs? |
| 06:48.39 | Nandini | only on player and target frames |
| 06:49.06 | Ellipsis | bah |
| 06:49.16 | Ellipsis | I will test again thoroughly and see if I can find any issues |
| 06:49.24 | Ellipsis | I haven't noticed anything odd with my normal setup though |
| 06:49.28 | Nandini | i also use ElkBuffBars (for player, target, and focus) but there is no hooking going on so i can't understand why there would be a conflict there |
| 06:49.53 | Ellipsis | indeed, and atm I'd probably trust EBBs over PB_Aura if they disagree |
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| 06:50.11 | Ellipsis | because EBB doesn't have complicated filtering and layout code to get in the way >_< |
| 06:50.13 | Nandini | well, i didn't create a jira issue because i couldn't find a pattern, and i didn't want to file a useless report |
| 06:50.44 | Nandini | that's what i was attempting to do Recluse |
| 06:50.59 | Recluse | =3 |
| 06:51.56 | Recluse | i never had PB highlight issues tho |
| 06:52.05 | Nandini | EBB has what appears to be complicated filtering, but it is just really the same set of 4 kinds of rules applied to every group |
| 06:52.18 | Nandini | i used to have debuff highlight issues, now that part works perfectly :) |
| 06:52.25 | Ellipsis | well at least I fixed something! |
| 06:52.46 | Nandini | the debuff highlighting is much more important to me anyways |
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| 06:53.07 | Nandini | so for now i'm happy that it works :) |
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| 07:05.35 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r63272 10UnitActionBars2/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-9 | - Fix to handle null horizontal/vertical values for various layout situations. |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-9 | - UnitStatus updates. |
| 07:11.17 | theoddone33 | I wish you could query people's arena ratings with /who |
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| 07:31.46 | Ellipsis | impressive |
| 07:31.52 | Ellipsis | think you can teach me that trick? |
| 07:32.24 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63273 10Conditioner/Conditioner.lua: Conditioner: Shamans default to healers. |
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| 07:33.05 | mikma | new rabbit-addon? |
| 07:33.44 | mikma | vhaarr: i noticed that mobnotes has old version number in .toc, but didn't want to change it because it will get changed again soon :D |
| 07:33.50 | Ellipsis | but what I want to know is who wrote Shampoo |
| 07:34.21 | vhaarr | actually, my childhood parrot was called Shampoo |
| 07:34.28 | mikma | some evil scientist |
| 07:34.29 | vhaarr | mikma: you mean the Interface version? |
| 07:34.43 | mikma | vhaarr: yeah, that. oh god i can't even get that right anymore :D |
| 07:34.46 | vhaarr | I probably have an old Interface in all my tocs |
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| 07:35.18 | vhaarr | mikma: Conditioner is a simple raid status monitor that tells me with a 32x32 px icon if the raid is ready for another pull or not |
| 07:35.19 | mikma | i was about to add some stuff in mobnotes last night, but then i didn't :D |
| 07:35.26 | vhaarr | why not? :/ |
| 07:35.27 | Orionshock | Shirik|AFK: ping? |
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| 07:35.34 | mikma | like "Lair Brute - Random charge that can oneshot most classes" |
| 07:35.46 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63274 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0-defaults.lua): |
| 07:35.46 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 07:35.46 | CIA-9 | - ACE-146: fix problem with non-table values overruling ['*']-type defaults |
| 07:35.50 | mikma | vhaarr: because i wasn't certain about the skills of the ogres in Gruul's lair |
| 07:35.55 | vhaarr | mikma: and it completely clears all threat |
| 07:36.10 | mikma | yeah, exactly that. i wasn't sure so i didn't want to add them in |
| 07:36.34 | mikma | nasty little buggers those, oneshotting almost anyone they charge |
| 07:36.56 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19389#comments |
| 07:37.12 | vhaarr | mikma: they only charge when people stand too far away |
| 07:37.15 | mikma | Immune to: |
| 07:37.15 | mikma | Sap, sheep, hunter slowing, MC, and FD pull will not only pull a single, soo... |
| 07:37.34 | vhaarr | mikma: so if the raid stands close to eachother it's no problem |
| 07:38.03 | mikma | vhaarr: basicly: "Lair Brute - Random charge that clears threat so group up close, immune to CC" |
| 07:38.06 | vhaarr | just remember that they cleave as well, so don't tank it -inside- the raid, but just outside it |
| 07:38.07 | mikma | or something stupid |
| 07:38.11 | mikma | oh yeah and that |
| 07:38.26 | mikma | "cleaves 180 degrees" |
| 07:38.33 | vhaarr | nah we don't mention cleave |
| 07:38.36 | vhaarr | it's too common |
| 07:38.55 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63275 10Ace3/tests/ (3 files): |
| 07:38.55 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 07:38.55 | CIA-9 | - adjust tests for changes to AceConsole-3.0 output format and AceGUI Acquire change |
| 07:39.12 | mikma | "Immune to cc, randomly charges to the furthest target and clears threat" |
| 07:39.28 | mikma | but, is it furthest or is it just someone in his aggrolist |
| 07:39.49 | vhaarr | "Random charge on people who are too far away. Wipes threat after charge. Immune to all CC." |
| 07:39.55 | mikma | "Secondly they will only charge someone in the raid if they are further away than 8-10 yards - if everyone stays inside that range no random charges will happen." |
| 07:39.59 | vhaarr | :P |
| 07:40.18 | vhaarr | just someone on his list, not the one furthest away |
| 07:40.31 | mikma | "Ramdom charge on people further than 10 yards. Wipes threat after charge. Immune to all CC." |
| 07:40.44 | vhaarr | I don't know the range |
| 07:40.55 | mikma | me neither, but that's what wowhead said :P |
| 07:40.57 | vhaarr | no reason to mention it |
| 07:41.07 | mikma | okidoki |
| 07:41.22 | mikma | what about the casters, remember their names and do they have special stuff worth mentioning? |
| 07:41.36 | durcyn | purge renew, interrupt heal, that's about it |
| 07:41.36 | vhaarr | isn't it just Lair Priest? |
| 07:41.38 | vhaarr | I think so |
| 07:41.43 | CIA-9 | 03odlaw * r63276 10PassLoot/ (Constants.lua PassLoot.lua): |
| 07:41.43 | CIA-9 | PassLoot: |
| 07:41.43 | CIA-9 | - Slight improvements in a few functions. |
| 07:41.54 | mikma | hmm let's see by the zone |
| 07:42.23 | vhaarr | "Uses Renew and heals." is basically it indeed |
| 07:42.28 | vhaarr | the fear is not worth mentioning |
| 07:42.29 | mikma | Gronn-Priest |
| 07:42.49 | mikma | what about the encounter of first bosses? |
| 07:43.19 | mikma | Olm the Summoner - Summons a Wild Fel Stalker which can be banished |
| 07:43.29 | durcyn | enslaved* ;) |
| 07:43.35 | vhaarr | I'd rather not do bosses |
| 07:43.47 | mikma | Krosh - He must be tanked by a mage using the stolen Spell Shield. |
| 07:44.00 | vhaarr | that's tactic again |
| 07:44.13 | mikma | ok |
| 07:44.28 | vhaarr | and wrong, I've tanked him as a protection warrior |
| 07:44.30 | vhaarr | :PP |
| 07:44.32 | mikma | how about "Casts Spell Shield which can be stolen" |
| 07:44.40 | vhaarr | don't add notes for bosses |
| 07:45.28 | Orionshock | vhaarr: tanked the mage as a prot warrior?? i do find that hard to belive |
| 07:45.36 | mikma | ok next: Gronn-Priest - Immune to silence, casts Renew and Heal |
| 07:45.41 | vhaarr | Orionshock: I find your stupidity hard to believe |
| 07:45.58 | Orionshock | :P |
| 07:46.04 | mikma | it's vhaarr, anything is possible |
| 07:46.23 | mikma | That renew effect CAN be taken with spellsteal and will heal about 19,000 hp her tick. Taking it away from them makes them a lot easier to deal with. |
| 07:46.26 | mikma | lol, that's sick |
| 07:46.40 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: ping |
| 07:49.14 | mikma | vhaarr: so what about with the priest there? is "Immune to silence." good enough or should something else be mentioned? |
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| 07:49.34 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63277 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 07:49.34 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 07:49.34 | CIA-9 | - bump minor |
| 07:49.43 | mikma | i'm not sure about the "interrupt his heals" part |
| 07:50.38 | vhaarr | "Immune to CC and silence." is fine |
| 07:51.02 | mikma | vhaarr: but his spells can be interrupted by kick and.. |
| 07:51.11 | mikma | the comments in wowhead aren't that clear |
| 07:51.30 | vhaarr | yeah interrupt is not the same as silence |
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| 07:51.54 | mikma | "Immune to CC and silence, interruptable." |
| 07:52.02 | vhaarr | sure |
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| 07:52.41 | Recluse | wth is a gronn-priest? D= |
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| 07:53.15 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63278 10Conditioner/Conditioner.lua: Conditioner: Hide the frame on login. |
| 07:53.39 | mikma | Recluse: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21350 |
| 07:55.22 | Recluse | ah |
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| 07:56.14 | Fisker- | I get it! |
| 07:56.30 | Fisker- | Assassin's creed is actually supposed to teach you the art of assassination |
| 07:56.35 | Fisker- | self-assassination.. |
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| 08:00.24 | mikma | damnit |
| 08:00.31 | mikma | i forgot to up the version of db |
| 08:00.34 | CIA-9 | 03mikma * r63279 10MobNotes/ (MobNotes.lua MobNotes.toc): MobNotes: interface version 20300, added Gruuls lair trash |
| 08:00.50 | mikma | i'll do it next time i add mobs in |
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| 08:03.15 | Elsia | morning |
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| 08:08.38 | vhaarr | pastamancer: I'm getting loads of svn locking errors when trying to update from dev here |
| 08:08.43 | vhaarr | Kaelten: ^ |
| 08:09.09 | vhaarr | first I couldn't get a lock on one addon, so I tried locking it myself and then releasing the lock again, but it didn't help |
| 08:09.25 | vhaarr | so I deleted it and did a svn update again, and now it complains on another addon |
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| 08:12.41 | [Ammo] | worked fine here 5 mins ago |
| 08:13.03 | vhaarr | on how many addons? |
| 08:13.08 | [Ammo] | 225 |
| 08:13.10 | [Ammo] | approx |
| 08:13.19 | [Ammo] | aka all of em |
| 08:13.59 | vhaarr | first it complained about LootWhore, so I deleted that |
| 08:14.06 | vhaarr | and now it complains about MobNotes |
| 08:14.10 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 08:14.15 | vhaarr | when I deleted that, it complains about the next addon |
| 08:14.24 | [Ammo] | tried runnin cleanup? |
| 08:14.30 | [Ammo] | maybe your svn up died halfway |
| 08:14.32 | [Ammo] | try svn cleanup |
| 08:14.48 | vhaarr | never done cleanup |
| 08:14.55 | Fisker- | it's vhaarr |
| 08:14.55 | [Ammo] | cleanup removes fake locks |
| 08:14.55 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 08:14.56 | Fisker- | GET HIM! |
| 08:15.06 | [Ammo] | cleanup the offfending addon |
| 08:15.14 | Fin | some files started failing CRC checks, didn't clear up so I deleted it, then svn told me to cleanup |
| 08:15.40 | Fisker- | like i'd touch vhaarr :o |
| 08:15.46 | Fisker- | I just wanted everyone else to get him |
| 08:16.45 | Ellipsis | why wouldn't you want to touch vhaarr? |
| 08:16.48 | Ellipsis | he's soft and cuddly! |
| 08:18.00 | Fisker- | http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00326/No_name_326643m.jpg <-you're doing it wrong |
| 08:18.32 | Elsia | nice parallel parking there |
| 08:19.20 | mikma | mercedes in good use |
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| 08:24.24 | Shirik | Orionshock: pong |
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| 08:25.07 | Orionshock | ... |
| 08:25.15 | Orionshock | Shirik: sorry wrong person |
| 08:25.19 | Fisker- | OH YES |
| 08:25.23 | Fisker- | BUFF PRIESTS MORE PLEASE |
| 08:26.03 | Shirik | Orionshock: haha |
| 08:26.15 | Orionshock | forum name was shirk, |
| 08:26.21 | Orionshock | gg irc tab complete |
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| 08:31.49 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: pong |
| 08:32.26 | Xinhuan | [3/1 11:06:55] <+Wobin> Xinhuan: with Gathermate, is it possible to have the rings -below- the level of the minimap ore spots? |
| 08:32.30 | Ellipsis | don'g pong him, it's a trap! |
| 08:32.30 | Xinhuan | no |
| 08:32.46 | Xinhuan | the minimap blips are drawn on the "minimap terrain" itself |
| 08:32.55 | Xinhuan | by blizzard |
| 08:34.04 | Grum | how much money does one need to completely control one item on the AH? :D |
| 08:34.19 | Xinhuan | a lot |
| 08:34.25 | Grum | Xinhuan: blizzard changed that between 2.3 and 2.3.3 btw |
| 08:34.36 | Xinhuan | to buy it out continuously |
| 08:34.48 | Grum | well for example runed living rubies |
| 08:35.04 | Grum | i was pondering pushing the price from 55 to 85g |
| 08:35.08 | Xinhuan | you're gonna estimate that yourself |
| 08:35.26 | Grum | :P |
| 08:35.30 | Xinhuan | you'll probably need at least 20k to create any sort of artificial demand |
| 08:35.40 | Grum | yeah |
| 08:35.45 | Xinhuan | and when you run out of gold, you can't maintain it |
| 08:35.50 | Xinhuan | the price will just fall again |
| 08:35.52 | Xinhuan | and you lose |
| 08:35.56 | Grum | that is the shitty part kek |
| 08:36.04 | Fin | you say that as if it's not possible to do, Xinhuan |
| 08:36.16 | Grum | and the thing is, if i win ..then .. euuuh .. i get like 30g a pop more ..but everyone else as well :D |
| 08:36.18 | Xinhuan | its possible, but its not likely to generate much of a profit |
| 08:36.32 | Xinhuan | given that you end up with a huge stockpile you can't get rid of |
| 08:36.41 | Fin | I don't think I agree with that statement, it's a bit too much of a generalisation for me :) |
| 08:36.50 | keiss | create a cartel - more ppl better chance of success :D |
| 08:37.02 | Recluse | really depends on the supply/demand of said item on your realm |
| 08:37.04 | Zedde | nd herbalism on the map at the same tim e? |
| 08:37.25 | Zedde | nm |
| 08:37.29 | Grum | Recluse: about 20 supplied per day (of which i supply allmost half) |
| 08:37.36 | Zedde | just need to get it to the mini map too |
| 08:37.39 | Zedde | :) |
| 08:37.44 | Grum | and i sell about 5-7 a day atm because i undercut people |
| 08:37.46 | Xinhuan | 20 is probably just your estimate |
| 08:37.50 | Grum | yeah |
| 08:37.56 | Grum | that is what i see on a day AHing |
| 08:38.01 | Xinhuan | rubies ARE 80g on my server btw |
| 08:38.03 | Xinhuan | ada ore is 34g |
| 08:38.06 | Xinhuan | per stack |
| 08:38.12 | Recluse | 34... good lord |
| 08:38.13 | Grum | (checking every 30-60 minutes) |
| 08:38.15 | Xinhuan | cut throat to the core |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r63280 10MobileVault/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-9 | MobileVault: |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:38.37 | Xinhuan | i have a huge influence on that price lol |
| 08:38.46 | Grum | tbh, i have exactly 3 competitors left atm |
| 08:38.48 | Fin | awesome. an absolutely HUGE fuckoff thunderstorm has just started. |
| 08:38.58 | Grum | and i've also pushed the adamantite from 19.5g->26/27g a stack |
| 08:39.17 | Grum | and made supplies on the AH virtually non existant |
| 08:39.23 | Grum | there is never more than 1 page on the AH |
| 08:39.26 | Fin | I'm curious how you can be confident that you are the reason this has happened |
| 08:39.35 | Grum | and only by farmers that refuse to sell to me ;D |
| 08:40.00 | Grum | Fin: i bought *ALL* ore no matter the volume for 2 weeks that was below 22g a stack |
| 08:40.16 | Fin | and you made money that way? |
| 08:40.23 | Grum | yes |
| 08:40.42 | Grum | not as much as i would now, i'm better at the selling of my crap atm |
| 08:41.03 | Grum | i just woke up and my day is 1100gold profit as it stands |
| 08:41.04 | Fin | then there's a good example Xinhuan :) it all depends on the server economy |
| 08:41.20 | Grum | some fun shit actually happened with the farmers |
| 08:41.27 | Xinhuan | because fin |
| 08:41.28 | Grum | i used to get ore from 6-8 different ones |
| 08:41.34 | Xinhuan | i taught Grum how to do it |
| 08:41.56 | Grum | now there is only 2 farmers that collectively offer ore for all other farmers (or at least 5-7 are behind em) |
| 08:42.08 | Grum | yeah <3 xin :) |
| 08:42.14 | Grum | total market domination |
| 08:42.44 | Grum | i chain undercut competitors by 5c and make sure i always have something up on the AH so they sell nothing for a full day =D |
| 08:42.52 | Fin | that's very nice for both of you, Xinhuan, but, I am failing to follow the thread of whatever you're saying. sorry. |
| 08:43.23 | Ellipsis | tastes like monies |
| 08:43.24 | Grum | seeing by the volume they dump, they have large stocks atm :D |
| 08:43.32 | Grum | they post 10-12 living rubies at the same time |
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| 08:43.40 | Grum | which dont sell for a whole other day because i just undercut em ;D |
| 08:43.55 | Grum | kek ... 14g wasted on AH fees ^^ |
| 08:44.00 | Grum | bai profit |
| 08:45.12 | Grum | i jsut fear that one gets smart and starts buying ore from my sources :D |
| 08:45.37 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 08:46.09 | Grum | then again, how likely is it that you talk to the right farmer at the right time |
| 08:46.12 | Fin | what server are you on again, Grum? |
| 08:46.20 | Grum | ;P |
| 08:46.26 | Fin | well they're not exactly hard to find |
| 08:46.44 | Grum | how would you go and find em |
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| 08:46.52 | Fin | now that would be telling |
| 08:46.52 | Grum | oe competitor logged on .. time to undercut =D |
| 08:47.44 | Grum | but doomhammer eu |
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| 08:51.54 | Adirelle | morning |
| 08:51.59 | Adirelle | [Ammo], ping ? |
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| 08:54.51 | CIA-9 | 03trh * r63281 10VanasKoS/modules/Notifier.lua: VanasKoS: (drycoded) fix to a nil reference problem with the "extra reason frame" |
| 08:55.29 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, they readded unit:guid tooltips |
| 08:55.35 | Xinhuan | but without the health bar |
| 08:55.37 | Xinhuan | hehe |
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| 08:56.43 | Grum | - The benefits of drinking out of combat have been delayed while in the Arena. It will now take four seconds before the full benefit of the mana regeneration will come into effect. <--- PFEW! |
| 08:56.45 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 08:56.52 | Ellipsis | why'd you have to ruin it Arrowmaster |
| 08:56.54 | Grum | they actually implemented it right this time :D only in arenas |
| 08:57.29 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan, does Cart:Routes not have the ability to store per-toon profiles? like... I don't want to view a particular route on one toon, but I do on another? |
| 08:57.39 | Elsia | xin: interesting, so it still can be used for GUID->Name |
| 08:57.39 | Xinhuan | no pertoon profiles |
| 08:57.57 | Zhinjio | and, further ... if you want a whacky 14 song mix of eclectic tunes I just threw together for a friend, /msg me. |
| 08:57.58 | Xinhuan | you can at best use auto show/hide |
| 08:58.00 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 08:58.05 | Xinhuan | to show/hide according to professions |
| 08:58.07 | Zhinjio | *nod* ... gotcha. Thanks. |
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| 08:58.19 | Grum | Zhinjio: please consider moving to Routes instead of Cartographer_Routes :) |
| 08:58.21 | Zhinjio | you == anyone |
| 08:58.40 | Zhinjio | I will do so once I commit to using Ace3, which I currently do not. |
| 08:59.32 | Grum | Zhinjio: lol :P |
| 08:59.48 | Grum | Routes has cool features that C_Routes hasnt got ;P |
| 08:59.51 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: pong |
| 09:00.00 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: hello |
| 09:00.17 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: i'm started to toy a bit the Violation branch for 2.4 |
| 09:00.37 | Adirelle | I would like your opinion about some ideas |
| 09:01.17 | [Ammo] | I'm still fiddling with some things for it |
| 09:01.28 | [Ammo] | basically pondering on the design a bit |
| 09:01.33 | [Ammo] | want to get rid of all the extra crud |
| 09:01.44 | Adirelle | I think we can get rid of RosterLib |
| 09:01.58 | lagger` | whats a totem mod that works on test righ tnow |
| 09:02.05 | Adirelle | just gathering data for characterPets and characeterDataSource as we get log entries |
| 09:02.07 | [Ammo] | can get rid of a lot of drek |
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| 09:02.27 | [Ammo] | get rid of the whole pet handling as it is atm |
| 09:02.46 | Adirelle | I'm even thinking we could get rid of characterPets and characterDataSource too |
| 09:03.23 | [Ammo] | I am currently designing a guid based data storage |
| 09:03.28 | Adirelle | ok |
| 09:03.31 | [Ammo] | that also handles pet / guardian etc relations |
| 09:04.09 | [Ammo] | but it's still pretty much on paper / in mind |
| 09:04.20 | [Ammo] | hopefully I can adjust the code fairly easy |
| 09:04.24 | Adirelle | I was thinking on keeping only the name but appending the master name to it |
| 09:04.49 | Adirelle | and by adding a LOCAL_VIOLATION_USER level for unit matching AFFILIATION_MINE, we could easily know what to broadcast |
| 09:05.28 | [Ammo] | I am getting rid of most of that code as well ) |
| 09:05.30 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:05.35 | [Ammo] | already stripped out a ton |
| 09:05.37 | Adirelle | e.g. (level == LOCAL_VIOLATION_USER and name == playerName) => "Broadcast" messages, (level == LOCAL_VIOLATION_USER and name ~= playerName) => "BroadcastFor" messages, |
| 09:06.36 | Adirelle | the only "bad thing" is looking into the entire table to get the player and its creations for merging |
| 09:07.42 | Adirelle | about the GUID based storage, how will you handle pets multiple GUIDs ? |
| 09:08.30 | nevcairiel | in theory, when you get a new pet guid, you could iterate the roster (all raidXpet) and call UnitGUID() on those, to match it. |
| 09:08.59 | Adirelle | that UnitGUID() has been confirmed ? |
| 09:09.02 | nevcairiel | thats more complicated for guardians |
| 09:09.02 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:09.03 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:09.05 | Ellipsis | it's on PTR now |
| 09:09.11 | [Ammo] | guardians are harder indeed |
| 09:09.14 | Adirelle | xD |
| 09:09.21 | [Ammo] | but the data storage model is the first thing I'm fixing now |
| 09:09.26 | Elsia | that reminds me let me test if they fixed shaman elementals |
| 09:09.52 | nevcairiel | i just build a char on that tournament test server .. its only s2 arena gear *cry :P |
| 09:10.59 | [Ammo] | hmmm now to figure out how aceconfig 3 worked again with select and key value pairs : |
| 09:11.12 | Xinhuan | copy from gathermate ;p |
| 09:11.21 | [Ammo] | finish up witchhunt config |
| 09:11.54 | Elsia | lua> string.format("%0x",8465) |
| 09:11.54 | lua_bot | Elsia: 2111 |
| 09:12.00 | Elsia | whee, shaman elementals fixed |
| 09:12.57 | Elsia | now if we get *guardian* unitids there won't be any need for syncing for pure tracking's sake |
| 09:14.16 | Adirelle | couldn't one have several guardians ? |
| 09:14.26 | Adirelle | in this case, there won't ever be guardian unitids |
| 09:14.58 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 09:15.02 | Ellipsis | treants for example |
| 09:15.19 | Adirelle | snakes too |
| 09:15.39 | Elsia | each totem is a guardian |
| 09:15.48 | Elsia | i kinda asked for partyguardian1..n |
| 09:15.55 | CIA-9 | 03wang * r63282 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-zhCN.lua: GatherMate: zhCN update |
| 09:15.58 | Elsia | or rather party1guardian1..n |
| 09:16.04 | nevcairiel | thats too unlikely to ever happen :P |
| 09:16.10 | Elsia | i know |
| 09:16.11 | Adirelle | yeah |
| 09:16.25 | Adirelle | gonna have another way to find it |
| 09:16.39 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 09:16.43 | Ellipsis | guardians just don't matter :P |
| 09:16.47 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 072.4 * r63283 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: all old options are now back. time to make em look pretty |
| 09:16.51 | Elsia | well I'm still happy that they fixed the flags for shaman elementals, that means I know of no case where a player cannot track his own damage from the combat log alone, except some self-damage (life-tapping) |
| 09:17.11 | Elsia | if one could scan over-head labels that'd be an alternative |
| 09:17.17 | [Ammo] | you can |
| 09:17.23 | Elsia | how? |
| 09:17.30 | [Ammo] | same way Aloft does it |
| 09:17.31 | [Ammo] | for instance |
| 09:17.32 | Elsia | ah |
| 09:17.40 | Elsia | gonna have to plunder aloft code :D |
| 09:17.50 | Orionshock | it's a bitch btw |
| 09:18.09 | Adirelle | I think violation can just ignore guardians of other players and guess information from broadcasted data |
| 09:18.15 | Elsia | more of a bitch than syncing the information? |
| 09:18.23 | Xinhuan | anyone knows if SimpleCombatLog is getting updated? |
| 09:18.33 | Ellipsis | why would you need SCL now |
| 09:18.36 | Elsia | yep, self-totems already work fine in recount, just other player's totems cannot be attributed |
| 09:18.42 | Xinhuan | the default one on the PTR still kinda sucks |
| 09:18.50 | Ellipsis | yeah but you can configure it a lot |
| 09:18.50 | Xinhuan | at least, in functionality |
| 09:19.13 | Adirelle | right, it's limited to 4 configurations... |
| 09:19.15 | Xinhuan | i'll reserve my judgement until i see the actual configuration implemented |
| 09:19.16 | Ellipsis | all we need is an addon to expose all the combat log options it doesn't show in the default UI |
| 09:19.17 | Elsia | simplecombatlog is kinda obsolete isn't it? or rather if you want a replacement of the new default it's a new addon really |
| 09:19.25 | Xinhuan | at the moment, half the menu options doesn't do anything yet |
| 09:19.39 | Elsia | it has a lot of config if you click on combatants and see the refinement filters |
| 09:19.45 | Xinhuan | because they aren't coded to do anything yet |
| 09:20.04 | Adirelle | I remember that clicking on unit name popped up a pretty complex configuration menu |
| 09:20.21 | Xinhuan | yeah, but of that whole menu, i assure you only the bottom 2 works |
| 09:20.24 | Xinhuan | the other 6 doesn't ;p |
| 09:20.30 | CIA-9 | 03roartindon * r63284 10Assessment/embeds.xml: Assessment: Fixed embeds.xml to use "Include" instead of "Script" |
| 09:20.34 | Fin | SCL should still work after 2.4 is implemented, right? |
| 09:20.36 | Adirelle | they are not prepared |
| 09:20.48 | Xinhuan | nope, SCL won't work |
| 09:21.13 | Fin | I thought Blizzard said that the default mode of the combat log would be to continue in the same way as before, with strings and stuff |
| 09:21.39 | Xinhuan | have you tried it? :) |
| 09:21.42 | Adirelle | Fin, it continues to display string |
| 09:22.00 | Fin | what does trying it have to do with this? |
| 09:22.06 | Adirelle | but the configuration will be much more complete |
| 09:22.21 | mikma | vhaarr: do you want notes for mobs in lvl60 -> instances? |
| 09:22.31 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 072.4 * r63285 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: some order into chaos |
| 09:22.48 | Fin | so, SCL *should* still work - unless SCL works differently than I understand |
| 09:22.59 | Ellipsis | it won't work |
| 09:22.59 | vhaarr | mikma: sure |
| 09:23.00 | [Ammo] | Scl works off parerlib |
| 09:23.02 | [Ammo] | it won't work |
| 09:23.25 | Fin | wow, a reason! thanks. |
| 09:23.34 | Xinhuan | i don't like how the quickbar covers the chat tabs |
| 09:23.36 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 09:23.37 | purl | :/ |
| 09:23.45 | durcyn | the quickbar makes me want to choke someone |
| 09:23.49 | Elsia | xin: don't think that's the intended design tbh |
| 09:24.06 | Ellipsis | the quickbar should go die in a very large fire |
| 09:24.15 | Adirelle | fin, btw, you can expeted all combatlog related addon to stop working at 2.4 |
| 09:24.20 | mikma | vhaarr: hehehee: ["Felguard Annihilator"] = "Random charge.", |
| 09:24.21 | Adirelle | s/expeted/expect/ |
| 09:24.30 | CIA-9 | 03roartindon * r63286 10Assessment/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 09:24.30 | CIA-9 | Assessment |
| 09:24.30 | CIA-9 | - Added LibBabble-Boss-3.0 to it also, as Threat-1.0 needs it |
| 09:24.43 | Fin | I still don't understand why it wouldn't work if it was using an older version of parserlib - when Blizzard said they're going to make the default mode output strings, did they mean that sure, strings, but the *strings* will be different? |
| 09:24.55 | Fin | oh of course! I expect it all to break |
| 09:24.57 | [Ammo] | Fin: the evnets got removed |
| 09:25.04 | [Ammo] | it is all different now |
| 09:25.08 | [Ammo] | with a new combatlog event system |
| 09:25.12 | [Ammo] | hence SCL will break |
| 09:25.32 | Ellipsis | Fin: it used to be we got events with the strings in them, that's what parser parsed |
| 09:25.35 | Fin | yes, I know about the combatlog event system, but... wait, I'll find it |
| 09:25.36 | [Ammo] | anyway, time to feed kid and help a friend move house |
| 09:25.37 | Ellipsis | now we get events with actual args |
| 09:25.46 | Ellipsis | and no longer get the strings |
| 09:25.53 | Fin | OK |
| 09:25.53 | Adirelle | btw, Blizzard seems to be willing to implements SCL filter configuration in the new combatlog |
| 09:25.57 | Xinhuan | the strings are "built" by blizzard combat log now |
| 09:26.33 | Ellipsis | I suppose there would be some way to hook the combat log's message printing, but that would be the most backwards way I could think of to do combat log stuff |
| 09:26.56 | Xinhuan | not possible |
| 09:27.07 | Xinhuan | the text generated by blizzard_combatlog is not exactly the same as before |
| 09:27.13 | Xinhuan | due to using a million gsubs() |
| 09:27.17 | Ellipsis | I didn't say it would be the same text |
| 09:27.18 | Xinhuan | to do the replacement |
| 09:27.23 | Ellipsis | I just said you could parse it |
| 09:27.23 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 09:28.00 | Bruners | ckknight: i have a feature request for cowtip |
| 09:28.07 | Ellipsis | Bruners: jira :P |
| 09:28.18 | Bruners | ckknight: showing itemicons in the tooltip |
| 09:28.30 | Ellipsis | why not download an addon that does just that |
| 09:28.36 | Adirelle | building something to break apart a string into a list of items you can get directly from the new events... I won't ever finish this sentence ^^ |
| 09:29.38 | Bruners | Ellipsis: if i could get ck do implement that as a module to cowtip it would be better wouldnt it? |
| 09:29.44 | Ellipsis | better how? |
| 09:30.03 | Ellipsis | ck is awesome and all, but it's not like his code is inherently superior to all other code |
| 09:30.22 | durcyn | Bruners: just install Links and enable it there |
| 09:31.01 | Bruners | Ellipsis: i think he is superior |
| 09:31.01 | Adirelle | (irc noob question : can someone tell me the point of what Tornhoof is doing ?) |
| 09:31.41 | Bruners | Ellipsis: anyhow, ck superior or not, is there an ace addon that could do that for me ? |
| 09:31.47 | Bruners | durcyn: ill check it out |
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| 09:31.56 | Ellipsis | why does it need to be ace? |
| 09:31.58 | aidinux-user64 | 12 ftp://anonymous:anonymous@80.109.44.199:32767 |
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| 09:32.04 | Ellipsis | it's practically a one-liner |
| 09:32.12 | Wobin | Adirelle: I think he's anti-idling somehow |
| 09:32.38 | Bruners | Ellipsis: when it brakes i dont have go to some random website to find it |
| 09:32.49 | Ellipsis | one-liners don't break |
| 09:32.51 | Ellipsis | try http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7306-DamnTekkubItemtooltipicons.html |
| 09:33.32 | Ellipsis | also, there's a difference between ace and wowace, you'd do well to learn it |
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| 09:39.03 | Tornhoof | vharr you just banned half of austria ;) |
| 09:39.19 | vhaarr | yeah I know, that guy pissed me off |
| 09:39.33 | robotusch | wth was the link for anyway? :/ |
| 09:39.39 | vhaarr | who cares |
| 09:40.24 | durcyn | that was Win32.Plexus.B, is what that was |
| 09:40.30 | durcyn | or something similar |
| 09:40.56 | Bruners | never open something that has colors |
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| 09:41.13 | Elsia | yep that ban is roughly equivalent to banning all of *bell*.com in the us on an austrian level, chello is one of the most popular providers there |
| 09:41.38 | vhaarr | it's not popular |
| 09:41.40 | vhaarr | it's just widespread |
| 09:41.59 | vhaarr | I've never heard an austrian say a good word about chello |
| 09:42.30 | Elsia | well you know what I meant, its one of the most widespread providers |
| 09:42.35 | nevcairiel | its like telia, everyone has it, noone likes it |
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| 09:43.39 | evl | Any addon that can hide the bindings labels and/or macro texts on the default blizzard buttons? |
| 09:44.17 | Fin | Orionshock: what does Guildcraft do? is there a wiki page or forum thread somewhere that I've missed? |
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| 09:44.24 | Orionshock | forum thread |
| 09:44.43 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.54 | Wobin | oh btw, I pimped Guildcraft on LJ |
| 09:44.54 | Fin | Orionshock: "No results found" when I searched on wowace.com |
| 09:45.01 | Wobin | cause it was the only one I could think of that did that |
| 09:45.02 | Fin | no, but I've heard of it Orionshock |
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| 09:45.13 | Orionshock | same idea, less overhead & traffic |
| 09:45.50 | Orionshock | synch mod ofc, it lets you browse / search the craftables of guildies and soon pugg'ers |
| 09:46.16 | Fin | inter-guild communication and cross-promotion and stuff like that? |
| 09:46.38 | Orionshock | interguild yes |
| 09:46.48 | Fin | -dictionary+palm pilot |
| 09:46.52 | Orionshock | and eventualy you'll be able to request and send your stuff to random people |
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| 09:47.15 | Fin | the browsing and searching stuff sounds good |
| 09:47.25 | Orionshock | :D |
| 09:47.35 | Orionshock | thx to Arrowmaster for the hax regex that makes it work |
| 09:48.12 | Shirik | regex ~= lua pattern |
| 09:48.23 | Orionshock | same difference to me :P |
| 09:48.32 | Fin | a lua pattern is a regex |
| 09:49.06 | nevcairiel | ~dict regular expression |
| 09:49.50 | Fin | was the definition meant to show why what I said was wrong, nevcairiel? |
| 09:50.20 | nevcairiel | no, i was wondering if the definition profed either of your points =P |
| 09:50.21 | Shirik | wtf? My sound card just died >> |
| 09:50.29 | Fin | oh, OK |
| 09:50.39 | Shirik | nevcairiel, I believe that definition would prove mine, however I do agree Fin's argument can be true |
| 09:50.48 | Fin | "regular expression" is a generic term |
| 09:50.52 | Shirik | I would guess it would depend on your definition of regular expression |
| 09:50.57 | Shirik | wikipedia agrees with Fin |
| 09:50.58 | Fin | mate |
| 09:51.00 | Adirelle | from what I remember from my courses, a regular expression is used to build a state machine that can be used to check sequences of tokens |
| 09:51.01 | Fin | I think we're both right |
| 09:51.12 | Shirik | (04:50:47) (+Shirik) I would guess it would depend on your definition of regular expression |
| 09:51.13 | Fin | lua patterns are regexes, but regexes aren't all lua patterns |
| 09:51.15 | nevcairiel | yeah Adirelle |
| 09:51.28 | Shirik | ok I guess that's true fin |
| 09:51.32 | Shirik | we /were/ saying different things |
| 09:51.47 | Fin | perhaps we should engage in a round of fisticuffs to decide the overall winner |
| 09:51.59 | Shirik | ~dict fisticuffs |
| 09:52.07 | Fin | yes |
| 09:52.09 | Fin | with the fists |
| 09:52.40 | Fin | I shall box your ears |
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| 09:53.02 | Bruners | is it only my computer that goes completly sirup when running WAU ? |
| 09:53.04 | Shirik | brb restarting, stupid sound card |
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| 09:56.59 | Ellipsis | Bruners: you could always try another updater |
| 09:57.28 | Bruners | Ellipsis: that was not the question here |
| 09:58.17 | Ellipsis | well I'm sorry I offered a suggestion as to how to solve your problem |
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| 09:58.35 | Ellipsis | I'll try to keep my responses to simple "yes" or "no" answers from now on |
| 09:58.38 | Bruners | Ellipsis: its not a problem |
| 09:59.43 | Bruners | Ellipsis: thanks for your help |
| 10:00.32 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63287 10Ace3/changelog.txt: Ace3 - update changelog |
| 10:00.34 | Bruners | Ellipsis: im just wondering if its supposed to be that way or not, if its not, then there is clearly something wrong with my software |
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| 10:01.08 | Elsia | hmm do guardians always have the player's level? |
| 10:01.18 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:01.26 | nevcairiel | some quest guardians are lvl 1 too :P |
| 10:01.33 | nevcairiel | or higher, or lower |
| 10:01.45 | nevcairiel | altho, shaman totems are always player level |
| 10:02.25 | Ellipsis | Bruners: well, a good way to find out would be to try something different and see if you have the same problem |
| 10:02.39 | Elsia | thanks |
| 10:02.42 | Ellipsis | however I can't say I know of any software that's "supposed" to cause lag :P |
| 10:03.09 | Bruners | Ellipsis: ok, a know issue |
| 10:03.10 | Elsia | oh some people write programs to slow their computer so they can beat browser games more easily |
| 10:03.26 | Bruners | *known |
| 10:04.15 | Ellipsis | Bruners: let me put it this way - since WAU is no longer supported, even if there was a known issue behind your problem it wouldn't be getting fixed |
| 10:05.36 | Elsia | hmm linking quests in cheat is very neat |
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| 10:05.46 | Bruners | Ellipsis: that is news to me |
| 10:05.49 | Elsia | s/cheat/chat/ |
| 10:07.06 | Shirik | (05:02:36) (Ellipsis) however I can't say I know of any software that's "supposed" to cause lag :P |
| 10:07.11 | Shirik | The stuff that's installed at my school :P |
| 10:08.11 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r63288 10PitBull/embeds.xml: PitBull: remove outdated Gratuity-2.0 reference from embeds.xml (PB-304) |
| 10:08.23 | Fin | Ellipsis: is this sylvanaar's WAU? |
| 10:08.34 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar has stated he's no longer maintaining it |
| 10:08.40 | Fin | I see |
| 10:08.50 | Fin | has he made the code available? |
| 10:08.51 | Shirik | Oh really? |
| 10:09.17 | sylvanaar | yarly |
| 10:09.23 | Fin | well, that's fair enough I guess, I think he's done a fantastic job so far |
| 10:09.29 | Fin | oh hello syl |
| 10:09.37 | sylvanaar | morning |
| 10:09.42 | Elsia | morning sylv |
| 10:09.49 | Fin | "idd" GOD I HATE THAT STUPID ACRONYM |
| 10:09.55 | Fin | but yeah |
| 10:09.58 | Shirik | wtf does it mean? |
| 10:10.00 | Shirik | I never figured it out |
| 10:10.05 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 10:10.15 | Shirik | how the hell does that mean indeed? |
| 10:10.19 | Fin | fuck knows |
| 10:10.22 | sylvanaar | i do declare |
| 10:10.24 | Shirik | and why would you use "idd" instead of something like "ya" |
| 10:10.37 | Fin | this is the question |
| 10:10.45 | Fin | also, just, WHY |
| 10:10.51 | nevcairiel | because its cool to say indeed all the time |
| 10:10.54 | Zhinjio | am I lagging? |
| 10:10.56 | Zhinjio | hrm. |
| 10:10.57 | Ellipsis | indeed it is |
| 10:10.57 | nevcairiel | dont you watch stargate!!11 |
| 10:10.59 | Fin | is it indeed |
| 10:10.59 | Shirik | Zhinjio: Yes |
| 10:11.07 | sylvanaar | what are you talking about anyways - i just work up for real |
| 10:11.14 | Bruners | indeed! |
| 10:11.16 | Fin | woke! |
| 10:11.17 | sylvanaar | s/work/woke/ |
| 10:11.20 | Fin | work it up baby |
| 10:11.21 | Fin | yeah |
| 10:11.22 | Fin | like that |
| 10:11.24 | Fin | oh yeah |
| 10:11.40 | Shirik | Wow |
| 10:11.50 | Fin | Guildwars |
| 10:12.00 | Shirik | today marks exactly 1 year since WoWUIM was started. Kinda sad considering it was only released a few weeks ago >< |
| 10:12.04 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63289 10Ace3/changelog.txt: Ace3 - tweak changelog :) |
| 10:13.00 | Fin | what's WoWUIM who made it how much will it cost can we try it is it open source where's it hosted is it out of beta what's the general reaction so far |
| 10:13.38 | Zhinjio | I'm getting some pretty weird lag. |
| 10:13.39 | Shirik | I made it, $0, yes, yes, wowinterface, yes, since latest release no real bug reports yet |
| 10:13.44 | Fin | official site forum unofficial site mailing list external forum mentions reviews blog posts previews old press releases link please |
| 10:13.48 | Shirik | omfg |
| 10:14.05 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 10:14.11 | Fin | what I meant to say was, idd |
| 10:14.21 | Fin | hah |
| 10:14.32 | Fin | I'm afraid you will find that all gone! |
| 10:14.55 | Shirik | hax |
| 10:15.00 | Fin | 0rz$%!^&*%( |
| 10:15.10 | Shirik | ?? |
| 10:15.14 | nevcairiel | i should watch stargate in german once, i wonder wtf tea'lc says in german instead of indeed :P |
| 10:15.19 | Shirik | Are you encrypting your IRC connection now? |
| 10:15.22 | Shirik | I need your public key |
| 10:15.47 | Fin | hax0rz, crazy characters indicating general wackiness and what a kerrazy hacker type dude I am |
| 10:16.13 | Shirik | oickthxbai |
| 10:16.23 | Shirik | idd |
| 10:16.29 | Fin | rly |
| 10:16.30 | Fin | hey, so |
| 10:16.35 | Fin | link us up then dude |
| 10:16.40 | sylvanaar | indeed?,,,,maybe "doch" or "ach so" |
| 10:16.51 | Fin | aha |
| 10:16.57 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8239-WoWInterfaceUIManager-Windows.html |
| 10:17.38 | Fin | those look similar to Czech words... "ach jo" would mean a sort of resigned acknowledgement of something, "doch" might be the sound a small puppy makes while pooping |
| 10:17.54 | Bruners | 10 4 |
| 10:18.19 | Ellipsis | oh Fin |
| 10:18.23 | keiss | Fin: you're czech ? |
| 10:18.26 | Fin | Shirik, does Wuim work with WoWI only? |
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| 10:18.33 | Fin | keiss: no, but I live in Prague |
| 10:18.44 | Shirik | For now, yes. I... can't say more than that for now, aside from the fact that this is not permanent. |
| 10:18.44 | keiss | Fin: maybe neighbors :D |
| 10:18.47 | Fin | oh! Ellilellilopolis! |
| 10:19.09 | Shirik | however I suggest you visit feature requests |
| 10:19.13 | Shirik | may give you some hint |
| 10:19.17 | Fin | I would be happy to put you up and take you on a tour of the city any time you cared to come over, syl |
| 10:19.36 | sylvanaar | thanks Fin! |
| 10:19.47 | Fin | keiss: you live in Prague? whereabouts? |
| 10:20.03 | keiss | Fin: prague 10 - strasnice |
| 10:20.04 | Fin | seriously! it's a fine place, full of beer and lovely things to look at |
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| 10:20.20 | Shirik | mostly women |
| 10:20.21 | Fin | hah, right on the other side of town :) I'm in repy, prague 6 |
| 10:20.27 | keiss | hehe |
| 10:20.29 | Fin | at the end of the number 9 tram line |
| 10:20.34 | Shirik | prague 6, prague 10? |
| 10:20.39 | Shirik | Your city is numbered? |
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| 10:21.08 | keiss | Shirik: its like districts |
| 10:21.11 | Shirik | U.S. likes to do things the hard way. We get a city and zip code and you get to figure out wtf that means |
| 10:21.12 | Fin | districts - distributed according to ancient rituals from a time now lost in the mists |
| 10:21.22 | Shirik | ha, we have counties, but funny thing is |
| 10:21.25 | Fin | eg, prague 5 is next to prague 1 |
| 10:21.31 | Fin | they have names, though, too |
| 10:21.31 | Shirik | most counties include half of several cities |
| 10:21.51 | Ellipsis | well where would you put it Fin, if you're so smart? |
| 10:22.03 | Fin | your MUM |
| 10:22.04 | Shirik | like fairfax county is half of springfield, half of alexandria, half of clifton |
| 10:22.05 | Ellipsis | I mean you can't put it next to 6, 6 is scared of 7 because 7 8 9 |
| 10:22.28 | Shirik | hierarchy is boring apparently |
| 10:22.39 | Fin | but 7 bullies 6! |
| 10:22.48 | Fin | poor 6, it's out there all on its own now |
| 10:22.48 | Shirik | yeah, and 7 8 9 |
| 10:22.53 | sylvanaar | this Beowulf movie is going back - i have been trying to watch it since Tue - its terrible |
| 10:22.53 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 10:22.57 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 10:23.09 | Fin | it's an abomination! |
| 10:23.25 | sylvanaar | it truly is |
| 10:23.45 | Fin | what are you apologising for? |
| 10:23.56 | Fin | 7, 8, and 9? |
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| 10:24.29 | Shirik | (05:22:00) (Ellipsis) I mean you can't put it next to 6, 6 is scared of 7 because 7 8 9 |
| 10:24.33 | Shirik | 14(0511:2211:4114) 14(11+Shirik14) yeah, and 7 8 9 |
| 10:24.37 | Shirik | (05:22:51) (Ellipsis) ... |
| 10:24.37 | Shirik | (05:22:52) * +Shirik goes back to his hole |
| 10:24.37 | Shirik | (05:22:59) * Ellipsis sighs |
| 10:24.42 | Fin | I see |
| 10:24.55 | Shirik | sorry about the color on that one |
| 10:25.01 | Shirik | hit the wrong copy button >.> |
| 10:25.03 | Fin | I'm not sure what to do |
| 10:25.21 | Fin | I know! |
| 10:25.38 | Fin | hey, so, anyway - did you hear about Lenin's grave being dug up and stuff? |
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| 10:26.13 | Fin | apparently the Communists kept his real burial site a secret so as to avoid capitalist scum targetting it during the next war or something |
| 10:26.25 | Fin | it's all a big Communist plot if you ask me |
| 10:26.45 | keiss | umm , isnt lenin in a mausoleum ? |
| 10:26.57 | Fin | I shall write a book on comedy, I think |
| 10:27.00 | Wobin | Hehe, I quite enjoyed Beowulf |
| 10:27.05 | Wobin | for it's complete campiness |
| 10:27.07 | Shirik | oh god I hated Beowulf |
| 10:27.16 | Shirik | except beowulf clusters |
| 10:27.17 | Shirik | those are fun |
| 10:27.18 | Ellipsis | teach us your tricks, Fin |
| 10:27.21 | Shirik | but the book hurt my head |
| 10:27.34 | Shirik | mostly because I slammed it against my head after reading each line |
| 10:27.41 | Wobin | Pie Jesu Domine |
| 10:27.48 | Shirik | Dona eis requiem |
| 10:27.52 | Fin | I can see that spoiling the overall experience, Shirik |
| 10:28.06 | Fin | Ellipsis: did you get it? did you? what did you think? good? great? vundervar? |
| 10:28.16 | Ellipsis | what did I get? |
| 10:28.20 | Fin | my joke |
| 10:28.25 | Ellipsis | you made a joke? |
| 10:28.38 | Fin | yes |
| 10:28.46 | Bruners | he made funny |
| 10:28.50 | Fin | I made funny! |
| 10:29.04 | Ellipsis | I must be too blonde for your jokes, Fin |
| 10:29.13 | Fin | it's all a Communist plot |
| 10:29.25 | Fin | uhm |
| 10:29.32 | Fin | OK, let me start again |
| 10:29.35 | Fin | my dog has no nose |
| 10:29.40 | Ellipsis | I don't get it :( |
| 10:29.57 | Fin | they kept Lenin's real burial site a secret... it's a Communist plot... |
| 10:30.03 | Ellipsis | what's all a communist plot? and who's lenin? |
| 10:30.10 | Fin | Lenin is my dog! |
| 10:30.14 | durcyn | egads. |
| 10:30.14 | Fin | he has no nose |
| 10:30.20 | Ellipsis | um... |
| 10:30.23 | Fin | go on |
| 10:30.25 | Ellipsis | why do I feel like I'm missing something |
| 10:30.42 | Wobin | Burial plot =P |
| 10:30.45 | durcyn | lenin. as in josef lenin. as in soviet russia. |
| 10:30.50 | Fin | hooray! |
| 10:30.59 | durcyn | did you attend an american public school, Ellipsis? |
| 10:31.02 | Ellipsis | no |
| 10:31.06 | durcyn | no excuse then |
| 10:31.11 | Ellipsis | I've never been to public school :( |
| 10:31.18 | Wobin | PS Fin: Your dog has no nose?! How does it smell?! |
| 10:31.25 | nevcairiel | any school for that matter ? :P |
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| 10:31.29 | Fin | AWFUL! |
| 10:31.33 | Wobin | ~rimshot |
| 10:31.34 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 10:31.34 | Fin | hahah! |
| 10:31.40 | Fin | thank you! |
| 10:31.43 | Ellipsis | well, I did drop out freshman year of high school |
| 10:31.51 | Ellipsis | but until that point, only the best most expensive education for me! |
| 10:32.54 | durcyn | i guess i can't talk much though, seeing as i just said vladmir lenin's first name was josef, always get him and stalin confused |
| 10:33.02 | durcyn | damn communists. |
| 10:33.12 | Ellipsis | why are the communists always the bad guys? |
| 10:33.18 | durcyn | because they're not us |
| 10:33.22 | Ellipsis | oh, I see |
| 10:33.23 | sacarasc | because america sucks |
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| 10:33.47 | nevcairiel | communisn (the idea behind it) is good, but humans are too greedy and selfish for it to work |
| 10:33.49 | CIA-9 | 03ensabahnur * r63290 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: |
| 10:33.49 | CIA-9 | MobNotes: |
| 10:33.49 | CIA-9 | - add deDE Mobnames (description maybe later too) |
| 10:33.55 | durcyn | Ellipsis: if i showed you a flag with, say, a hammer and a scythe on it, would you know what i was referring to? |
| 10:34.04 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 10:34.14 | Fin | vagina! |
| 10:34.15 | durcyn | gosh. |
| 10:34.16 | xyu | zhong guo ren ma? |
| 10:34.21 | Fin | it's a vagina isn't it |
| 10:34.23 | mikma | ussr |
| 10:34.27 | Ellipsis | I'm confused |
| 10:34.37 | xyu | its' monkey island |
| 10:34.37 | Ellipsis | durcyn: what flag? can you link a pic or something? |
| 10:34.39 | nevcairiel | americans .. i guess the rumors about knowledge about europe are true :P |
| 10:34.54 | xyu | england = europe right? |
| 10:34.55 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: don't worry, I lack knowledge of my own country just as much |
| 10:34.57 | xyu | :D |
| 10:35.14 | Fin | wait are we not doing rorschach tests |
| 10:35.14 | mikma | Ellipsis: http://www.google.fi/search?q=ussr+flag&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 10:35.18 | nevcairiel | just to clarify, hitler is dead and WW2 ended, yes? :) |
| 10:35.34 | Stanzilla | o rly? |
| 10:35.35 | Fin | yes, but elvis lives! |
| 10:35.37 | xyu | WE LANDED ON THE MOON! |
| 10:35.37 | Ellipsis | mikma: hm, can't say I recognize it |
| 10:35.40 | Stanzilla | I must have missed this :( |
| 10:36.06 | Fin | OK, well, I put this all down to a fine display of expert trolling, and congratulate everyone involved. good job. |
| 10:36.16 | sylvanaar | do you know how many time zones there were in the USSR? |
| 10:36.16 | Fin | now I must leave for the west! |
| 10:36.20 | Fin | my family are in danger |
| 10:36.29 | nevcairiel | too many sylvanaar :P |
| 10:36.34 | sylvanaar | 11 |
| 10:36.50 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla: missed what? |
| 10:37.01 | xyu | http://www.theodora.com/flags/new3/burundi.gif I have no idea where this is. |
| 10:37.03 | mikma | Ellipsis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union <- country now called as Russia |
| 10:37.05 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: end of ww2...was a j/k |
| 10:37.28 | xyu | Yeah, there was no end |
| 10:37.29 | xyu | it's still going |
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| 10:38.09 | thul | hmm |
| 10:38.10 | xyu | i met a girl from siberia once |
| 10:38.15 | sylvanaar | is that anything like the american civil war is still going on here? |
| 10:38.17 | xyu | she was pretty crazy fun |
| 10:38.17 | thul | I'm reconsidering my thought of Ellipsis as smart :-P |
| 10:38.34 | Ellipsis | thul: I'm intelligent, if not knowledgable |
| 10:38.46 | Ellipsis | and if I had to pick between the two, I think I'd stick with what I've got |
| 10:39.22 | nevcairiel | smartness = intelligence + knowledge |
| 10:39.31 | mikma | smartass = between those two |
| 10:39.34 | Fin | well, Ellipsis, can you imagine someone that doesn't know who George Washington was? |
| 10:39.50 | nevcairiel | smartass = knowledge and no intelligence :p |
| 10:39.58 | Fin | I'm not criticising you 'course |
| 10:40.12 | Ellipsis | pfft, I don't mind |
| 10:40.14 | Fin | just trying to perspectivise |
| 10:40.21 | thul | Ellipsis: well, "if I had to pick" doesen't seem to be the issue here :-P |
| 10:40.22 | xyu | why not? i wouldn't expect people to know that fogey. |
| 10:40.22 | Ellipsis | I'm quite used to being teased for my lack of history knowledge |
| 10:40.33 | Ellipsis | I do my best to avoid history and other man-made subjects :) |
| 10:40.45 | nevcairiel | everything is man-made |
| 10:40.59 | thul | not even having a clue about the sovjet union and it's flag is like the lady in the youtube video "HUNGARY?! IS THAT A COUUUNTRY?" with a fat texas accent :-P |
| 10:41.06 | xyu | lua is made by the gods |
| 10:41.28 | nevcairiel | haha that video was awesome thul |
| 10:41.32 | Fin | oh yeah? I bet my dad could have lua in a fight |
| 10:41.33 | xyu | omg link |
| 10:41.58 | xyu | btw i'm so mesmorized by that wikki flag graphic waving in the wind |
| 10:42.02 | xyu | i can't take my eyes away |
| 10:42.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 10:42.58 | sylvanaar | anyone see the Colbert report - where he as talking about william f buckley, jr? |
| 10:43.21 | thul | nevcairiel: I know, I love it :-) |
| 10:43.29 | Fin | not I |
| 10:43.34 | Fin | when was it on? |
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| 10:44.01 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juOQhTuzDQ0 <- xyu |
| 10:44.22 | sylvanaar | it was on last night in the US |
| 10:44.34 | Fin | ah |
| 10:45.00 | sylvanaar | did he just die? buckley? |
| 10:46.14 | Fin | oh, cool, they got Hilary on The Daily Show |
| 10:46.19 | Fin | +l |
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| 10:48.18 | fatbrain | <3 John Stewart on Crossfire |
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| 10:51.35 | thul | jon stewart is fun |
| 10:51.37 | thul | we jews you know |
| 10:51.40 | thul | but xyu, see the vid, come back with a comment |
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| 10:58.38 | eXemplar | why won't cowtip stop fading *shakes fist* |
| 10:58.48 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 10:59.27 | eXemplar | "immediate hide" and disabling fade does nothing to actually stop it |
| 11:00.11 | Ellipsis | you have to enable the module to make it work |
| 11:00.27 | Ellipsis | and it still won't work on world objects IIRC |
| 11:00.45 | eXemplar | it's fading away on players, but i don't want it to |
| 11:00.58 | Ellipsis | sso enable the module and set players to immediate hide |
| 11:01.03 | eXemplar | have |
| 11:01.21 | eXemplar | hack tiem! |
| 11:01.28 | Ellipsis | let me see if it's working here |
| 11:02.56 | Ellipsis | yeah, working fine for me as always |
| 11:03.11 | eXemplar | odd |
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| 11:07.47 | sylvanaar | anyone have a guess when 2.4 is coming? |
| 11:08.06 | Stanzilla | end of april |
| 11:08.23 | eXemplar | gah, even setting it manually to hide in the module still makes it keep fading |
| 11:08.32 | sylvanaar | 2 months? |
| 11:09.04 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 11:09.26 | sylvanaar | that just a guess - or based on something/ |
| 11:09.59 | nevcairiel | guess :P |
| 11:10.56 | Stanzilla | guess, yeah |
| 11:13.39 | sylvanaar | i think i figured out how to get the 2.4 chat icons to line up with the text |
| 11:14.07 | nevcairiel | wait for the ptr patch that fixes it ? =P |
| 11:14.35 | sylvanaar | they didnt even acknowledge my post on the 2.4 thread |
| 11:14.59 | sylvanaar | my guess is - i'll have to fix it myself if i want it fixed |
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| 11:16.45 | sylvanaar | its a bug - the fontstrings are no longer anchored to their invisible anchors anymore - i dont know exactly when that changed, it was a few patches ago - but the icons are anchored to those invisible anchor points |
| 11:17.32 | sylvanaar | you can see the effect by calling ChatFrame1:SetSpacing(20) |
| 11:17.54 | sylvanaar | the text used to move - but no longer does |
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| 11:18.07 | sylvanaar | the icons do though |
| 11:18.43 | smoke_ | is there a wowace mod that like plays a sound file when ur so low? |
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| 11:18.57 | smoke_ | i know parrot does it, but i want it to continually play the sound |
| 11:19.05 | sylvanaar | I havent figured out how to get to the texture itself |
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| 11:22.28 | sylvanaar | theres another ptr patch today |
| 11:23.18 | robotusch | start of tourney part |
| 11:23.27 | robotusch | aka everyone has free 70's + s2 epix |
| 11:24.07 | Vangual | guess the ptr forum moderators got sick of deleting premade posts ;> |
| 11:24.48 | nevcairiel | they're just testing the tournament server and system |
| 11:24.57 | nevcairiel | once tournamen goes live, you have to pay to get on there |
| 11:26.29 | Vangual | it's the right direction for supporting esport pvp |
| 11:26.57 | Tornhoof | yeh especially since now like every class has mortal strike |
| 11:28.23 | Vangual | i've noticed they fixed the single totem recalling without nerfing either recall nor securing the DestroyTotem() function. hooray :) |
| 11:31.05 | xyu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFvz5mCH4TU&feature=related |
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| 11:38.12 | sylvanaar | can anyone on the US ptr confirm my bug report, and post on my thread http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976341575&postId=49757749449&sid=1#0 |
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| 11:44.27 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63291 10Recount/ (9 files): |
| 11:44.27 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 11:44.27 | CIA-9 | - Mode dropdown menu now only shows on rightclicks |
| 11:44.27 | CIA-9 | - Various debugging on pet and unit handling, improved handling of unknown units. |
| 11:44.27 | CIA-9 | - Minor cleanups and optimizations |
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| 11:44.39 | Elsia | anyone on alliance EU PVE ptr who could help me test real quick? |
| 11:44.52 | sacarasc | with what? |
| 11:44.56 | baer_ | Elsia: what kind of help? |
| 11:44.56 | sacarasc | *loads it up* |
| 11:45.06 | Stanzilla | Elsia: patching atm |
| 11:45.11 | Stanzilla | will be online soon |
| 11:45.16 | baer_ | which fraction? |
| 11:45.47 | Elsia | stan: great, baer_ alliance |
| 11:45.51 | baer_ | ok. |
| 11:45.59 | baer_ | on my way. |
| 11:46.08 | Elsia | cool |
| 11:46.25 | Elsia | can you grab the newest svn branches recount before? ;) |
| 11:46.50 | baer_ | Elsia: where can i get it? |
| 11:47.15 | Elsia | sec, let me make a zip for curse |
| 11:49.21 | Stanzilla | 2008/03/01 12:48:37-999-x4]: <string>:"CombatConfigSettings:OnEvent":2: attempt to call global 'Blizard_CombatLog_Update_QuickButtons' (a nil value) < wtf? |
| 11:49.30 | Vangual | Elsia: you getting "12:47:12 Recount: Unknown combat log event type: ENCHANT_REMOVE" too on the current ptr? |
| 11:51.08 | FtH|Daemona | would guess so, cause i get it too ;) |
| 11:51.10 | Ellipsis | most recent PTR patch is spamming enchant remove events on login for every enchant/gem you have on your gear |
| 11:51.13 | Ellipsis | for some reason |
| 11:51.18 | Elsia | baer: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10598/edit/files/edit/47518/ |
| 11:51.28 | Ellipsis | you can see them if you switch your combat log to "me" |
| 11:51.28 | Vangual | yea, appears as oddly formatted combatlog entries aswell |
| 11:51.29 | baer_ | Elsia: takes me another minute, my box crashed with the last patch. |
| 11:51.31 | Elsia | van: already fixed in newest version, thanks for reporting it |
| 11:52.37 | baer_ | Elsia: I need a login at curse.com to download stuff? oO |
| 11:52.45 | wereHamster | can someone please clarify what this comment means? "This automatically registers the right-click with with the parent frame. Unregistering will cause this not to happen." The second sentence doesn't make sense to me. |
| 11:53.43 | xyu | Bloodlust/Heroism will, again, stack with Icy Veins. yay!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:54.18 | Wobin | wereHamster: I suspect they mean: Register -> right-click links to parent frame, Deregister -> right-click will no longer link to parent frame |
| 11:55.02 | Elsia | baer: you shouldn't have to no |
| 11:55.14 | baer_ | ok, got it. |
| 11:55.51 | wereHamster | isn't there a function to hook frame script functions? |
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| 12:02.00 | baer_ | Elsia: logged in. |
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| 12:04.18 | Stanzilla | baer_: name? |
| 12:04.39 | baer_ | Gingles |
| 12:08.34 | sb | mh |
| 12:08.42 | sb | where to get those new alchemy stone receipes? |
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| 12:09.34 | Orionshock | wereHamster: iirc it was hookScript() |
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| 12:10.52 | wereHamster | Orionshock, I was just wondering why DewdropLib doesn't use that to hook the script functions.. and why it still uses 'arg1' globals.. |
| 12:11.49 | Ellipsis | old lib is old? |
| 12:12.00 | Orionshock | dewdrops has been the victim of alot of hate recently |
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| 12:12.06 | Orionshock | *dewdrop |
| 12:12.22 | wereHamster | so is there a replacement being made? |
| 12:12.27 | Orionshock | no |
| 12:12.37 | Orionshock | due to said hate, it's been shun'ed |
| 12:12.57 | wereHamster | why the hate? |
| 12:13.11 | Orionshock | ... i think pitbull did it before it got rock'ed |
| 12:13.16 | Orionshock | or fubar |
| 12:13.18 | Ellipsis | huh? |
| 12:13.23 | Ellipsis | what hate? |
| 12:13.32 | Orionshock | it was the abusive milti-lvl options menu that really killed dewdrop |
| 12:13.36 | Ellipsis | the only hate revolving around those was that rockconfig opened *instead* of dewdrop |
| 12:13.36 | nevcairiel | pitbull config with fubar = hate by design |
| 12:13.53 | nevcairiel | er, pitbull with dewdrop* |
| 12:14.05 | Ellipsis | why would anyone want to config pitbull with dewdrop? |
| 12:14.15 | Orionshock | ^^ it's easier IMO |
| 12:14.16 | nevcairiel | that was the way to go before rock ? :P |
| 12:14.21 | Ellipsis | no it wasn't |
| 12:14.26 | Ellipsis | niagara > all |
| 12:14.35 | nevcairiel | niagara and waterfull suck |
| 12:14.37 | wereHamster | what's niagara? |
| 12:14.40 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: preRock, Pitbull used dewdrop to do config |
| 12:14.50 | Ellipsis | Orionshock, no. it used aceoptions tables. |
| 12:14.55 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:15.01 | nevcairiel | wit a buildin handler for dewdrop :P |
| 12:15.04 | nevcairiel | *with |
| 12:15.07 | Ellipsis | you could configure it with dewdrop, or waterfall, or slash commands if you wanted |
| 12:15.08 | nevcairiel | wth is with my typing today |
| 12:15.17 | xyu | nev you need sleep. |
| 12:15.19 | xyu | doh you beat me |
| 12:15.38 | nevcairiel | i just woke up a few hours ago <.< |
| 12:15.49 | nevcairiel | its 1pm |
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| 12:16.03 | Ellipsis | that was the whole point and the beauty of aceoptions...that the same table could be presented in several ways, and it was up to the user which one they wanted |
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| 12:16.21 | Orionshock | right... |
| 12:16.48 | Orionshock | xpt that dewdrop was a default, and people hate CLI with a passion, and one had to go out of the way to download niargra |
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| 12:17.12 | Ellipsis | english Orionshock, speak it |
| 12:17.22 | break19 | someone wanna take a look at http://ace.pastey.net/83197 and help me see why I'm getting <eof> expected at end ? |
| 12:17.26 | Orionshock | ... i try |
| 12:17.33 | Ellipsis | ... you fail |
| 12:17.46 | Fisker- | blizzard = n00bs |
| 12:17.48 | Ellipsis | break19: what's the "end" for? |
| 12:17.56 | nevcairiel | break19: you forgot the function keyword at the beginning :P |
| 12:18.06 | break19 | nevcairiel: oops |
| 12:18.07 | Wobin | yeah you need 'function' |
| 12:18.07 | nevcairiel | function BB:OnInitialize() |
| 12:18.07 | break19 | lol |
| 12:18.17 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 12:18.34 | xyu | lol too! |
| 12:18.38 | break19 | its early.. and I been dealin with a sick infant :/ |
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| 12:19.11 | break19 | she had a 102.4F fever thursday evening.. its gotten better.. but she aint fully well yet. |
| 12:19.16 | Wobin | =( |
| 12:19.29 | Ellipsis | poor thing |
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| 12:21.16 | break19 | yea.. she's got a virus, all we can do is keep her hydrated and keep her fever under control with infant tylenol.. |
| 12:21.43 | xyu | tell her to walk it off |
| 12:21.49 | break19 | heh |
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| 12:24.28 | durcyn | cripes, they make me wait a year for a pvp elekk mount, and the stupid thing has yellow go-faster stripes. |
| 12:26.34 | break19 | durcyn: riced elekk? neat |
| 12:26.54 | durcyn | oh, and it makes the gnome mount sounds, because someone at blizzard obviously needs to lose their job |
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| 12:27.38 | break19 | heh |
| 12:28.30 | Roath | anyone know how i lock all my tabs from being dragged? locking the chat only does it on the main one |
| 12:28.47 | durcyn | lock chat settings in interface options |
| 12:28.51 | break19 | Roath: right click the tab you wanna lock, and select lock |
| 12:28.57 | Roath | i have |
| 12:29.06 | Roath | but i can still drag the other tabs |
| 12:29.07 | durcyn | will lock the tabs and prevent the tabs from even appearing on mouseover |
| 12:29.29 | Roath | durcyn: i need my tabs, so i dont want them to dissapear :) |
| 12:29.42 | break19 | Roath: lock the OTHER tabs.. |
| 12:29.44 | break19 | \ |
| 12:29.49 | Roath | i have |
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| 12:29.51 | break19 | each tab has a lock/unlock setting |
| 12:29.59 | Roath | i can still drag them |
| 12:30.19 | Roath | no matter how many times i try to lock them, when they are docked to the main chat, i can still drag them :S |
| 12:31.48 | break19 | wtf... typing /script print("lol") says print is a nil ? |
| 12:32.28 | Roath | also, if i first unlock the other tab, it jumps to the middle of the screen, no longer docked to main chat window, if i then drag it back and dock it, the menu says "Unlock Window" which then again moves it to the middle of the screen if i click it |
| 12:32.53 | Roath | i only have the option to lock it if its not docked |
| 12:32.55 | Gngsk | break19, /print AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral("lol") |
| 12:33.19 | Roath | but if its docked, it "says" its locked in the menu, but i can still drag them off the main chat |
| 12:33.20 | break19 | Gngsk: tnx |
| 12:33.21 | Gngsk | er, /run not /print |
| 12:33.37 | sb | *sigh* |
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| 12:36.04 | sb | wtb http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=47049 |
| 12:36.10 | sb | but dont know where to get that receipe :/ |
| 12:36.33 | nevcairiel | not yet anyway |
| 12:36.38 | Gngsk | sb, PTR |
| 12:36.46 | nevcairiel | i love that they reduced the mats now :P |
| 12:36.50 | sb | Gnarfoz: i know... |
| 12:36.55 | sb | err Gngsk |
| 12:37.00 | Scylia | Hi there... has someone already 'play' with the new COMBAT_LOG_EVENT on ptr ? |
| 12:37.05 | sb | but where/how do you get that receipe |
| 12:37.48 | Gngsk | my guess would be the new rep |
| 12:37.53 | Gngsk | shattered hand offensive guys |
| 12:38.17 | sb | hhm |
| 12:38.38 | Orionshock | lol, just thinking with 2.4, do we get a boss mod now for chess event?? a little window to show us the health of the kings? |
| 12:39.43 | Gngsk | why would you need that? |
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| 12:40.17 | Orionshock | kicks |
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| 12:42.30 | peragor | Has anyone ever lost in the chess event? |
| 12:43.00 | sb | yep |
| 12:45.34 | Megalon | "all out on the king llane" ... "wtf blackhand dead?!" - "zomg" |
| 12:45.36 | Megalon | :s |
| 12:49.10 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63292 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua roster.lua): |
| 12:49.10 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 12:49.10 | CIA-9 | - Found pet attribution bug, thanks to Stanzilla and Baer_ for extensive testing help. |
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| 12:53.05 | FtH|Daemona | hmm autoloot is broken on the ptr... |
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| 12:55.11 | Gngsk | FtH|Daemona, how so? |
| 12:55.33 | FtH|Daemona | enabling/disabling doesnt change the autoloot functionality, its always off |
| 12:55.39 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63293 10Recount/deletion.lua: |
| 12:55.39 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 12:55.39 | CIA-9 | - Fixed bug with raid entry deletion code. |
| 13:00.40 | Elsia|food | btw pretty neat: recount pre ace3: 1346kB, after 792kB |
| 13:00.59 | nevcairiel | all features in? |
| 13:01.10 | Elsia|food | all except threat |
| 13:01.32 | Elsia|food | but I didn't include the threat dependencies in the 1,3MB version |
| 13:01.50 | nevcairiel | ace2 deps are pretty big |
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| 13:02.24 | Elsia|food | yep very cool considering that it's really 99.9% of the functionality |
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| 13:03.07 | break19 | Elsia|food: is the ace3 version only for ptr? |
| 13:03.12 | Elsia|food | yeah |
| 13:03.26 | break19 | kk |
| 13:03.29 | Elsia|food | live version dies with 2.4 so it won't get that treatment |
| 13:04.35 | break19 | ten rogah. |
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| 13:05.26 | break19 | meh |
| 13:06.16 | break19 | I've created a button (trying to learn secure stuff, as well as gui frame stuff) and its there, on screen, no errors.. but I cant interact with it in any way.. this is what I used to create the button, and assign attributes: http://ace.pastey.net/83201 |
| 13:07.25 | break19 | what am I doing wrong? and a better answer than "everything" please. lol |
| 13:07.42 | nevcairiel | do you see the button? |
| 13:07.46 | break19 | yes |
| 13:08.01 | nevcairiel | does _anything_ happen when you click it? |
| 13:08.06 | break19 | nope |
| 13:08.13 | Ellipsis | you're creating the background twice btw |
| 13:08.20 | break19 | its like its not even there, like its not accepting the mouseclicks |
| 13:08.31 | Gngsk | have you done EnableMouse(true) ? |
| 13:08.40 | break19 | BB.button1:EnableMouse(true) |
| 13:08.50 | Gngsk | k, yeah, guess I should look at the code, heh |
| 13:08.55 | nevcairiel | convert it from Button to CheckButton |
| 13:08.55 | break19 | heh |
| 13:09.09 | break19 | uhm, ok? |
| 13:09.17 | nevcairiel | just do it :D |
| 13:09.54 | break19 | ok, i did... now what? still not 'clickable' |
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| 13:11.17 | nevcairiel | try "type" and "item" .. no 1 behind those |
| 13:12.11 | break19 | nope.. |
| 13:12.24 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/83202 |
| 13:12.30 | nevcairiel | thats the simplest button i can create |
| 13:12.40 | nevcairiel | i did that to explain for one of my guildys some weeks ago |
| 13:12.43 | nevcairiel | and it worked |
| 13:12.51 | Ellipsis | wouldn't registerforclicks override the secure handler? |
| 13:12.55 | nevcairiel | no |
| 13:13.27 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 13:13.28 | break19 | nevcairiel: i really want to try to keep it all in lua if possible.. |
| 13:13.35 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 13:14.38 | nevcairiel | local button = CreateFrame("CheckButton", "MyButton1", UIParent, "SecureActionButtonTemplate, ActionButtonTemplate"); button:SetPoint("CENTER"); button:SetAttribute("type", "item"); button:SetAttribute("item", "Healthstone"); |
| 13:14.41 | nevcairiel | should work already |
| 13:15.37 | harldephin | what's TooltipExchange? |
| 13:16.32 | Wobin | trade in old for new tooltips? |
| 13:18.27 | break19 | My tooltips were a little dusty, so I went to the TooltipExchange! Now my tooltips are bright and shiny, and full of life! Thanks TooltipExchange! |
| 13:19.10 | break19 | I got RIPPED OFF!@! |
| 13:21.47 | Chompers | my friend broke pallypower :O |
| 13:21.55 | Chompers | he made a 10 man paladin karazhan run |
| 13:22.43 | Bruners | who did dps ?:P |
| 13:25.48 | Chompers | harsh |
| 13:26.00 | nevcairiel | but true |
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| 13:33.24 | Orionshock | Fin so did u try out my addon? |
| 13:34.16 | break19 | ok. i got the button working.. now I gotta put it into it's own movable frame.. I'm making a 5slot actionbar for self-buffs and weapon buffs.. and make the dadgum thing save it's position.. which aint working.. but eff it.. i'll do that later. lol |
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| 13:34.50 | Ellipsis | you'll have to save the position yourself if you don't use any xml |
| 13:35.06 | nevcairiel | lua buttons can save the position too |
| 13:35.16 | Ellipsis | since when? |
| 13:35.17 | nevcairiel | but once you login with the addon disabled, the position is gone =P |
| 13:35.29 | nevcairiel | dunno, ever? |
| 13:36.34 | break19 | Ellipsis: yea, im aware I have to save the position, I have code to do it, but it doesnt seem to want to do it. and I dont feel like messing with it right now... |
| 13:36.49 | break19 | I am, and have always been, a "piecemeal" coder.. |
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| 13:37.10 | break19 | get 1 part working right, then leave it alone for a little bit.. |
| 13:37.23 | break19 | keeps me from burning out on it. :) |
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| 13:39.23 | chexsum_ | that only works for mechanical things |
| 13:41.28 | break19 | it wasnt for it.. it was for me |
| 13:41.35 | break19 | made me feel better :) |
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| 13:44.34 | break19 | LOL! http://www.jokesgallery.com/joke.php?joke=3835&id=1 |
| 13:46.34 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63294 10Mapster/Locale/ (8 files): Mapster: change all locale files to UTF8, zhCN needs to re-do translations i guess, was submited as ASCII |
| 13:48.48 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63295 10Mapster/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Mapster: dont use the UTF8 BOM Header |
| 13:49.19 | Wobin | http://www.jokesgallery.com/joke.php?joke=3907&id=1 |
| 13:49.44 | break19 | A little boy in the mall, says to a security guard "I cant find my dad" the guard says "ok, what's he like?" the little boy says "Beer and women with big tits" |
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| 13:52.44 | robotusch | lol, winnar house |
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| 13:54.17 | Nandini | is blizzard's FCT rendered in the UI layer, anchored to game world units the same way nameplates are? |
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| 13:55.10 | Ellipsis | only the damage over mob's heads is anchored to the units |
| 13:55.17 | Ellipsis | the other stuff is rendered in UI |
| 13:55.48 | Nandini | oh so the damage to mobs is in the game world but the rest is in the UI layer? |
| 13:56.32 | Ellipsis | yup |
| 13:57.02 | Nandini | it seems that with unit guids in 2.4, it would be simple enough to make real FCT over mobs heads by anchoring it to blank nameplates |
| 13:58.25 | Nandini | but i suspect most SCT/MSBT/Parrot style mods have been developed with removing that cluttered presentation and gathering it into one location |
| 13:58.50 | Ellipsis | but how can you anchor it to nameplates, the nameplates don't give you guids? |
| 13:58.54 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63296 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 13:58.54 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 13:58.54 | CIA-9 | - Minor cleanup. |
| 13:59.27 | Nandini | if nameplates can allow you to target something and present info about the unit, they could surely give you guids i would think |
| 13:59.44 | Ellipsis | how? only the combat log and UnitGUID() get guids |
| 13:59.56 | Ellipsis | and you don't have unitids for nameplated units |
| 14:00.03 | Ellipsis | unless you mouseover/target/etc. them |
| 14:00.04 | Nandini | true, only if you mouse over them |
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| 14:03.13 | Nandini | i'm guessing aloft until now has no raid icon option for that reason |
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| 14:07.42 | doc^bla | and they only get class colored if you mouse over them |
| 14:09.48 | Ellipsis | yeah, a lot of aloft's info is only populated on mouseover |
| 14:11.07 | Nandini | but in 2.4 it will be able to put much more useful stuff there after a mouseover :) |
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| 14:12.16 | Elsia|food | well it can tell you what combat-log events this unit was responsible for |
| 14:12.45 | doc^bla | is there something like myframe:SetTooltip("This is text."); ? |
| 14:13.56 | Nandini | it could display FCT-type info for units you've moused over |
| 14:14.11 | Elsia|food | true |
| 14:14.34 | Nandini | ooh or REAL multi-target threat bars, best possible application :) |
| 14:14.52 | Elsia|food | threat-2.0 already can support that |
| 14:15.00 | Nandini | yup aloft just needs to add them in :) |
| 14:15.17 | Nandini | omg that would be so beautiful |
| 14:15.43 | Elsia | you can have incoming damage to raid/party members without mouseover |
| 14:15.52 | Elsia | and outgoing |
| 14:15.56 | Nandini | true true! |
| 14:16.12 | Elsia | in fact that's make an awefully cluttered display but fun :D |
| 14:16.13 | Nandini | easy to see when you have a lazy mage hiding in the back if there are no giant numbers over his head :) |
| 14:16.41 | Elsia | make a filter: Show FCT for all mages or for mageX |
| 14:17.31 | Nandini | not to stereotype mages, i've seen plenty of lazy players of all classes |
| 14:18.00 | doc^bla | melee are perfect, they have autoattack ;) |
| 14:18.01 | Nandini | i guess that's why you have raid leaders with half a dozen windows on their screen looking at every bar and screaming |
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| 14:18.17 | Elsia | if you filter for incoming damage it's great for raid healing actually |
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| 14:18.43 | Nandini | true, if you are the kind of rare healer who actually would like to watch the action and not whack moles :) |
| 14:19.01 | Elsia | well currently you kinda have to whack moles |
| 14:19.17 | Nandini | yes but now you would have an option! |
| 14:19.25 | Nandini | an alternative, that is |
| 14:19.27 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63297 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: Optional/CoolDown: Fix cooldown bar colors. |
| 14:20.17 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r63298 10/branches/mHud/mSkin.lua: mHud: Fix: DB bug in mSkin.lua |
| 14:21.16 | Nandini | and as a tank, i'd love to see my more accurately estimated threat on multiple targets over their heads, i would bow down and kiss the feet of whoever implemented that module |
| 14:21.48 | Nandini | no more wasted lacerates because i don't know if my threat on this same-named mob is as high as on the other one |
| 14:21.48 | FtH|Daemona | oh weee |
| 14:21.58 | FtH|Daemona | brutalus fails at killing madrigosa |
| 14:22.06 | Nandini | grats! |
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| 14:23.43 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63299 10Mapster/Locale/ (8 files): Mapster: remove zhCN locale again and add a notice to all locale files about UTF8 (plus one "control char" in UTF8 so anyone knows when its broken) |
| 14:25.30 | Elsia | lua> t={"a","b","c"}; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k.." "..(v or "nil")) end |
| 14:25.30 | lua_bot | Elsia: 1 a, 2 b, 3 c |
| 14:25.42 | Nandini | i bet there are some great addons that have been written for the chinese wow client (besides all the ones cwdg has hijacked) |
| 14:26.34 | Nandini | is there any visible effort for chinese authors to share their work with US and EU authors for localization? |
| 14:26.49 | FtH|Daemona | haha |
| 14:26.55 | FtH|Daemona | madrigosa just killed brutalus |
| 14:27.06 | elusif | communists are supposed to be all about sharing :( |
| 14:27.08 | Nandini | grats again :) |
| 14:27.11 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: wtf :P |
| 14:27.20 | FtH|Daemona | they fubar'd the boss scripts -.- |
| 14:27.36 | nevcairiel | what does it matter really, if he suicides or the dragon kills him.. |
| 14:27.37 | Nandini | i agree, it seems like such a one way street, you guys write brilliant addons, they localize and break them |
| 14:27.57 | Nandini | why don't we have the opportunity to break their authors' addons? :P |
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| 14:28.41 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel the point is, the ice wall doesnt break ,) |
| 14:28.47 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 14:28.49 | nevcairiel | thats bad :P |
| 14:28.55 | doc^bla | hijaking things and making cheap copies is their secret hobby |
| 14:29.10 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63300 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Fix working without paintchips. |
| 14:29.26 | Nandini | surely they must have some cool innovations tho |
| 14:29.55 | doc^bla | the best gold/h addon |
| 14:29.58 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: good to know, then we dont have to go there later today :P |
| 14:30.00 | Nandini | lol |
| 14:31.44 | Nandini | i suppose even if they did have any cool original addons, there are too few people in this community who could recognize them and figure out what the hell they really do |
| 14:32.19 | [dRaCo] | prolly, since they have to use normal lua, too, dont they? |
| 14:32.45 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 14:33.11 | [dRaCo] | should be no problem to find out what an addon does, then |
| 14:33.42 | Nandini | the difficulty would be recognizing a truly good one without having to go through all its code |
| 14:34.17 | doc^bla | top5 of their download page |
| 14:34.30 | Nandini | all ripoffs of US/EU addons |
| 14:34.41 | Nandini | or like you said, gold/h stuff LOL |
| 14:35.07 | Nandini | grr must break myself of that evil stereotype |
| 14:35.52 | Nandini | surely if they have players who love wow enough to die playing it, they have some authors who love wow enough to write great addons |
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| 14:41.17 | Erica | Thanks Peragor for the mod to show group numbers in Grid! :) |
| 14:44.36 | Grum | i completely agree that counting to five is way to hard ;D |
| 14:45.28 | Nandini | if you have an unusual grid layout, it might be helpful |
| 14:45.54 | Grum | its funny btw that the most useful grid layout isnt available atm O.o |
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| 14:46.09 | Grum | 'by groups while condensing empty groups and pets stacked ontop of it' |
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| 14:54.10 | CIA-9 | 03nemes * r63301 10NShakedown/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:54.10 | CIA-9 | NShakedown: |
| 14:54.10 | CIA-9 | - Add support for FlexBar2, SorrenTimers, WitchHunt, Hourglass2, XPerl |
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| 15:09.53 | Amadeo | It's quiet... Too quiet. |
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| 15:13.06 | ag` | hmm |
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| 15:39.41 | sb | mhh |
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| 15:39.59 | sb | anyone got problems with 7979->7994 ptr patch and vista? |
| 15:40.04 | sb | doesnt work for me |
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| 15:50.11 | doc^bla | go to file->folder dest. in the downloader and start the patch from there |
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| 15:52.28 | Amadeo | Anyone good with FreeBSD? |
| 15:53.25 | Elsia | hmm does table.remove(t,pos) not move up elements at pos->table.getn()? |
| 15:53.44 | JoshBorke | yes, it moves them around |
| 15:54.00 | Elsia | lua> t={a,b,c}; table.remove(t,2); table.getn(t) |
| 15:54.00 | lua_bot | Elsia: No output |
| 15:54.05 | Elsia | lua> t={a,b,c}; table.remove(t,2); print(table.getn(t)) |
| 15:54.06 | lua_bot | Elsia: 0 |
| 15:54.08 | Cryect | table.remove (table [, pos]) |
| 15:54.08 | Cryect | Removes from table the element at position pos, shifting down other elements to close the space, if necessary. Returns the value of the removed element. The default value for pos is n, where n is the length of the table, so that a call table.remove(t) removes the last element of table t. |
| 15:54.09 | JoshBorke | table.getn is deprecated |
| 15:54.14 | JoshBorke | you want #table |
| 15:54.49 | Elsia | alright lets see if that's my problem |
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| 15:56.01 | nevcairiel | lua> t={a,b,c}; table.remove(t,2); print(#t) |
| 15:56.01 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0 |
| 15:56.13 | nevcairiel | lua> t={"a","b","c"}; table.remove(t,2); print(#t) |
| 15:56.14 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2 |
| 15:56.18 | nevcairiel | doesnt work with nil values |
| 15:56.46 | Elsia | shouldn't be nil values |
| 15:56.54 | Cryect | thats the thing I hate most about Lua tables :( |
| 15:57.02 | JoshBorke | in your first test case they were ;-) you used a, b, c |
| 15:57.12 | Cryect | having to handle nils all special in my Recount 2 expression evaluator |
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| 15:57.17 | JoshBorke | lua> t = {1, 2, 3}; table.remove(t, 2); print(#t) |
| 15:57.18 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 2 |
| 15:57.20 | Elsia | yeah but in the code I worry about they are not ;) |
| 15:57.35 | JoshBorke | moral of the story, don't use table.getn |
| 15:57.45 | JoshBorke | Cryect: cry me a river :-P |
| 15:57.51 | Grum | getn will eat your babies |
| 15:58.18 | Cryect | I will cry you a river |
| 15:58.38 | JoshBorke | make sure it floats me to phat purplez |
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| 15:58.53 | CIA-9 | 03quezacolt * r63302 10Checklist2/ (6 files): |
| 15:58.53 | CIA-9 | Checklist2: |
| 15:58.53 | CIA-9 | - Removed unneeded comm functions |
| 15:58.53 | CIA-9 | - List sharing almost complete - can now send lists to your group (party/raid/BG) and guild, in addition to specific players. As of now, the group and guild list sharing features haven't been tested *at all*. |
| 15:59.00 | Cryect | damn python lets me have None in my lists just fine! |
| 15:59.24 | voidwalker | hey; is there any addon that notices you when there is a treasure chest nearby or unique mobs ? |
| 15:59.25 | JoshBorke | lua> t = {1, 2, 3}; table.insert(t, 2, nil); print(#t) |
| 15:59.26 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 4 |
| 15:59.36 | JoshBorke | lua> t = {1, 2, 3}; table.insert(t, 2, nil); table.insert(t, 2, nil); print(#t) |
| 15:59.37 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 5 |
| 15:59.43 | JoshBorke | so does lua :-) |
| 15:59.48 | sb | doc^bla: nah, doenst work |
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| 15:59.59 | sb | appcrash |
| 16:00.06 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: but its not guaranteed to report correctly |
| 16:00.12 | sb | after running WoW-0.4.0.7979-to-0.4.0.7994-enGB-patch.exe |
| 16:00.23 | Cryect | Yeah if you don't want your table to work like a list it sure as hell doesn't |
| 16:00.23 | JoshBorke | lua> t = {1, 2, 3}; table.insert(t, 2, nil); table.insert(t, 2, nil); table.insert(t, 1, nil); print(#t) |
| 16:00.23 | Elsia | still have the same bug with # instead of getn |
| 16:00.23 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 0 |
| 16:00.31 | Cryect | if you want* |
| 16:00.31 | nevcairiel | in your face =P |
| 16:00.36 | sb | arg - see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=F61DDFA6773FEFD4CB000EF72C6C1200?topicId=4976331369&sid=1 |
| 16:00.42 | JoshBorke | Elsia: pastey your code then |
| 16:00.47 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: lol |
| 16:00.50 | JoshBorke | lua> t = {1, 2, 3}; table.insert(t, 2, nil); table.insert(t, 2, nil); table.insert(t, 2, nil); print(#t) |
| 16:00.51 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 1 |
| 16:01.14 | JoshBorke | holey arrays are bad, mmkay? |
| 16:01.48 | Cryect | I mean you could make special metatables that behave to store nils but its really just an issue of trying to make list, hash_tables, and objects all be the exact same object type |
| 16:02.00 | Cryect | which is nice for simplicity |
| 16:02.07 | Cryect | but a pain for a few things here and there :-p |
| 16:02.55 | Elsia | alright works now |
| 16:03.14 | Elsia | was unrelated bug, lower case in variable that needed caps :P |
| 16:03.25 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 16:03.27 | Cryect | hehe |
| 16:03.41 | Elsia | lua is very good in creating hard to track down bugs |
| 16:03.54 | Elsia | my favorite was a local that was in the wrong scope/block :P |
| 16:04.05 | CIA-9 | 03fin * r63303 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Prat.toc: removed CWDG crap - you cocksuckers really don't do much for your reputation, you know that? STOP spamming your URL all over the place like you own everyone's addons! OK? -> FUCK. OFF. <- |
| 16:04.19 | Cryect | not sure how good I was at any sort of naming standard in Recount :-p |
| 16:04.21 | robotusch | o_O |
| 16:04.24 | Erica | rofl |
| 16:05.35 | voidwalker | hey; is there any addon that notices you when there is a treasure chest nearby or unique mobs ? |
| 16:05.45 | Cryect | no |
| 16:05.54 | voidwalker | Why not? |
| 16:05.55 | Cryect | it can't really |
| 16:05.56 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63304 10Recount/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:05.56 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 16:05.56 | CIA-9 | - Now supporting multiple pets better. Merge pets will now merge all pets you |
| 16:05.56 | CIA-9 | had. In the detail summary view one can page through individual pet |
| 16:05.56 | CIA-9 | contributions by clicking the pet section. Pets are deleted with their owners. |
| 16:05.57 | CIA-9 | Also works for guardians (shaman totems), but currently only for player-related |
| 16:05.58 | voidwalker | oh ? |
| 16:06.01 | CIA-9 | not group related totems (gief guardian unitid). |
| 16:07.10 | voidwalker | why can't it ? |
| 16:07.22 | JoshBorke | voidwalker: because the blips aren't widgets |
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| 16:07.48 | voidwalker | blips? |
| 16:08.00 | Cryect | minimap |
| 16:08.02 | JoshBorke | that's what the treasure will show up as on your minimap if you're tracking them |
| 16:08.07 | voidwalker | well not blips, just something so you know |
| 16:08.18 | Grum | you cant see position of objects in the world nor the existance of one |
| 16:08.18 | Cryect | how would this addon know that there is something there? |
| 16:08.40 | Grum | you can do it, outside of wow, breaking the ToU and getting your ass banned :) |
| 16:08.41 | voidwalker | well isn't there a lit of targetable mobs? |
| 16:08.46 | Grum | no |
| 16:08.48 | JoshBorke | no |
| 16:08.50 | voidwalker | list* |
| 16:08.56 | Grum | still no |
| 16:09.11 | JoshBorke | it cannot be done through addons |
| 16:09.18 | voidwalker | well sometimes i miss "bosses" , don't know how they're called, unique mobs of higher level |
| 16:09.27 | voidwalker | because they look very much alike the ordinary mobs |
| 16:09.39 | nevcairiel | rare mobs |
| 16:09.41 | Grum | you cant, its simple as that |
| 16:09.45 | voidwalker | okay okay |
| 16:09.55 | Grum | however humz |
| 16:10.02 | Erica | maybe do it with dogtags in cowtip? |
| 16:10.07 | JoshBorke | i'm sorry, you could write a mod that alerted you when you mouse-over one |
| 16:10.13 | Erica | you'd just have to hover your cursor over it |
| 16:10.18 | nevcairiel | any tooltip addon should show (Rare) or something on tooltips |
| 16:10.32 | Grum | if you are in an area of which you know a mob is you can to: /target uniquename ; /lasttarget (Or whatever itis) and record i you find something ^^) |
| 16:11.06 | Erica | I have bad eyes so I use dogtag to flag things red and/or in big letters when I'm looking for something |
| 16:11.19 | Stanzilla | Fin: best commit note ever :P |
| 16:11.55 | nevcairiel | i had to remove a chinese translation just today too |
| 16:12.00 | nevcairiel | because it wasnt UTF8 |
| 16:12.01 | nevcairiel | again :P |
| 16:12.32 | Erica | Does a list exist somewhere of the new ACE3 addons? I keep just stumbling on them kinda by accident |
| 16:12.46 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 16:12.55 | Grum | well volunteerd Erica |
| 16:13.11 | Erica | I don't mind... I'll get one started anyway |
| 16:13.12 | Kalroth | Erica: Thanks! |
| 16:13.12 | Elsia | ace3 addons are very secret ;) |
| 16:13.21 | Erica | they do kinda seem that way |
| 16:13.28 | Kalroth | that's because nevcairiel is being a meanie |
| 16:13.32 | Erica | noticed that even tuller is switching to ace3 |
| 16:13.34 | Stanzilla | Fin: lol wtf is ## X-Beer: Big, and clever and ## X-Hello: fin was here? :P |
| 16:13.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:14.09 | Erica | last one I found by accident was the analog clock... the thing's awesome and I've been looking for a pretty analog clock |
| 16:14.10 | voidwalker | (18:10:22) (nevcairiel) any tooltip addon should show (Rare) or something on tooltips |
| 16:14.10 | voidwalker | (18:10:29) (Grum) if you are in an area of which you know a mob is you can to: /target uniquename ; /lasttarget (Or whatever itis) and record i you find something ^^) |
| 16:14.10 | nevcairiel | thats Fin alright :P |
| 16:14.16 | Fin | tags, man! it's virtual graffiti! rock the system! |
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| 16:14.29 | Erica | lol |
| 16:14.33 | Stanzilla | lol^^ |
| 16:14.35 | voidwalker | can you elaborate on that? |
| 16:14.36 | Grum | kek! i made 3 typos in 1 line |
| 16:14.37 | Erica | whatever works I say |
| 16:14.50 | Kalroth | Fin: you should have made it rhyme. "Big and queer, fin was here!" |
| 16:14.58 | Grum | voidwalker: its impossible to do fully working without stupid sideeffects, forget it :P |
| 16:15.14 | Fin | Kalroth: I'm SO glad I have you around, I just wouldn't think of these things without you |
| 16:15.30 | Kalroth | Fin: Glad to be of service. |
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| 16:15.45 | Fin | Kalroth: kisses! |
| 16:15.49 | Kalroth | <3 |
| 16:16.30 | Erica | I wish you'd had that when ckknight was down to his "skivvies" |
| 16:17.15 | Kalroth | http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/striphandler.ashx?stripid=108dfa9a-e1fe-44ed-aa64-73a09b4c44d8 hahah |
| 16:18.47 | Fin | haha |
| 16:18.48 | Erica | Did Mrs. Dole call that meeting?! /hides |
| 16:19.10 | Fin | the other day I met the first German I've known who made Hitler jokes |
| 16:19.27 | Erica | that must have felt weird |
| 16:19.33 | Fin | and our German office is in Nurenberg! |
| 16:20.00 | Kalroth | Not really, I got a german coworker and he's good at making fun of Hitler |
| 16:20.03 | nevcairiel | its Nuernberg :P |
| 16:20.12 | Chompers | Fin, what's CWDG? |
| 16:20.20 | Fin | no, really, it was the first one I've met Kal! |
| 16:20.20 | baer_ | actually it's Nürnberg. :-D |
| 16:20.28 | baer_ | ü = ue. |
| 16:20.30 | Kalroth | Chompers: some chinese website/community thingy |
| 16:20.30 | Fin | chinese wow something something |
| 16:20.38 | nevcairiel | i know, i just didnt want to confuse fin with ü's :D |
| 16:20.38 | Kalroth | Chompers: They translate some of the wowace addons |
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| 16:21.00 | Fin | they've done some translations and they spam their URLs all over the place as if they were major contributors |
| 16:21.00 | Chompers | and make changes to addons ;) |
| 16:21.09 | Chompers | usually fucking it up in the process |
| 16:21.13 | baer_ | doesn't finnish got it's own "funny letters" ? |
| 16:21.16 | Erica | ah that's what Fin's fussing about |
| 16:22.04 | baer_ | besides Nuernberg got it's very special past concerning third reich. |
| 16:22.39 | Fin | I mean, seriously, I'm British, and we have a really bad reputation for being pissed up twats who only go abroad for stag parties to piss everyone off - so I try and do my best to make sure people don't get that impression from me at least |
| 16:22.55 | Fin | (thanks for the spelling corrections, btw :) |
| 16:23.08 | Erica | People are people imo... good and bad everywhere |
| 16:23.55 | Erica | The only British people I've met in person have been very nice too btw |
| 16:24.24 | baer_ | Erica: guess it pretty depends on the people, not on their nationality. |
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| 16:24.31 | Erica | Yes |
| 16:24.41 | Fin | my point is, if I was Chinese, I'd go out of my way to NOT act like a spammy goldseller site that's only after your money and is the type to use viruses, nasty ads, trojans, etc., to get it |
| 16:24.49 | baer_ | otherwise you will say "f**king germans", after you met me. :-DDD |
| 16:25.23 | Erica | I just hate it when people have to fight stereotypes like that |
| 16:25.29 | Fin | I do too |
| 16:26.01 | Erica | I understand your point though Fin... it's because a lot of people do stereotype |
| 16:27.00 | Fin | I just find it odd that those CWDG cocksuckers are such spammers - all they're doing is reinforcing the stereotype and giving themselves and the rest of their country a worse reputation overall... I suppose it's all about money in the end though |
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| 16:27.11 | Fin | anyway |
| 16:27.14 | ckknight_ | Erica: there's a reason stereotypes exist |
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| 16:27.29 | ckknight_ | and though they're not true in 100% of cases, they are typically true for the majority |
| 16:27.41 | ckknight_ | except for a few stereotypes |
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| 16:28.23 | Fin | I was going to say that, but it's such a loaded statement I thought I'd leave it to someone else |
| 16:28.28 | Erica | I can sort of see it from someone who's lived somewhere a while... not that it's a good thing. I just get so irritated with people who've met a few of a certain class or culture and base their feelings on that |
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| 16:28.49 | Fin | :) |
| 16:28.53 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63305 10Conditioner/Conditioner.lua: Conditioner: Fix tooltip, shows the assigned or defaulted role of raid members now. |
| 16:28.54 | durcyn | i've met a few humans. screw those assholes. |
| 16:28.59 | Fin | oh, I do! |
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| 16:29.09 | Erica | very good point durcyn! lol |
| 16:29.48 | Erica | wow rabbit... is that another ACE3 mod? |
| 16:30.03 | vhaarr | doesn't use any framework actually |
| 16:30.13 | Erica | ah kool |
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| 16:34.26 | Erica | Elsia are you still on? |
| 16:34.37 | Diao | assigned or defaulted o_O |
| 16:35.25 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r63306 10Recount2/ (GUI_List.lua Tags.lua expression.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:35.25 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 16:35.25 | CIA-9 | -Expression Evaluator now can handle nils and strings (Must be within " and no escape character yet for ") |
| 16:35.25 | CIA-9 | -Added the constant variables of nil, true, and false |
| 16:35.25 | CIA-9 | -Improved handling for Tags |
| 16:35.25 | CIA-9 | -List Frames now accept Tags in their left and right text. Example usage below |
| 16:35.28 | vhaarr | raid status monitor, so you can assign roles to people |
| 16:35.29 | CIA-9 | /script aListFrame=Recount2:CreateListFrame('test', nil, 200, 400, 20, 2) |
| 16:35.31 | vhaarr | either DPS or healer |
| 16:35.38 | Fin | http://www.google.com/coop/trust/add?user=003215354376613358415&sig=__u6okA64v3m5UItqjmWPgYDaBn90= |
| 16:35.40 | vhaarr | and of course there's a per-class default |
| 16:36.04 | Fin | perhaps there's something in this spamming stuff after all |
| 16:36.38 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: you changed CandyBar to accept RGB pairs right? |
| 16:36.43 | nevcairiel | when i do that, the gradient is bugged |
| 16:37.10 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yes, I haven't tried it with a graditne |
| 16:37.12 | vhaarr | gradient |
| 16:37.21 | vhaarr | maybe there's a select(x,...) with a wrong x somewhere |
| 16:38.05 | nevcairiel | i'll try to narrow it down |
| 16:38.11 | sb | vhaarr: conditioner is some xRaidStatus-light? |
| 16:38.16 | vhaarr | y |
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| 16:43.20 | dezzi | I think conditioner is that mod that eases group moves mid-bossfight |
| 16:43.21 | dezzi | right? |
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| 16:46.53 | Snago | hai gais |
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| 16:47.00 | Snago | missed me? :) |
| 16:47.15 | thul | of course |
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| 16:48.29 | xyu | quick question, is there any way to disable cowtip from showing up over grid. |
| 16:48.42 | xyu | tooltips in general |
| 16:48.43 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63307 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: fix gradient when not using PaintChips |
| 16:48.46 | xyu | or at least while in combat |
| 16:50.14 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63308 10HotCandy/ (Core.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 16:50.14 | CIA-9 | HotCandy: |
| 16:50.14 | CIA-9 | - supply color RGB codes to CandyBar (removes PaintChips dependancy) |
| 16:50.14 | CIA-9 | - remove AceLocale-2.2, not needed anymore |
| 16:50.48 | xyu | Even when i hit "show tooltip" -> never. |
| 16:50.51 | xyu | it still shows up :( |
| 16:51.19 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63309 10HotCandy/HotCandy.toc: HotCandy: bump version to 1.1 |
| 16:51.50 | xyu | It hides other peoples health hehe. big prob for me >< |
| 16:53.01 | mort | move the tooltip anchor |
| 16:53.11 | xyu | yeah that's a last resort |
| 16:53.14 | xyu | i'd rather not though :( |
| 16:54.38 | xyu | I like having it on my curser since that is where i'm looking, i'd just not like it there when i mouse over grid qq |
| 16:55.46 | xyu | cursor* |
| 16:55.48 | xyu | >_< |
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| 16:57.02 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r63310 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: |
| 16:57.02 | CIA-9 | GatherMate: |
| 16:57.02 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 16:57.42 | mort | i never tried to hide it, i have my tooltips on the top of my screen |
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| 16:59.01 | mort | but grid has it\s own tooltip config |
| 16:59.40 | keiss | i think he said he tried to set it to never already |
| 16:59.46 | dylanm | Which apparently isn't working... might want to file a bug? |
| 16:59.58 | keiss | it works with tiptac |
| 17:00.04 | mort | in cowtip, not in grid. if i undersand him right |
| 17:00.37 | keiss | 17:50 < xyu> Even when i hit "show tooltip" -> never. <- i think that refers to the grid setting ? |
| 17:01.11 | keiss | if not , try to set it in grid :) |
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| 17:03.48 | xyu | yeah that is the grid setting |
| 17:04.01 | xyu | it used to work when i had tinytip, but doesn't seem to work since i've switched to cowtip |
| 17:04.08 | xyu | and cowtips are much bigger :P |
| 17:04.12 | xyu | hiding half my grid |
| 17:04.14 | keiss | then its a cowtip problem prolly , if i set that to never with tiptac .. it works |
| 17:04.50 | xyu | yeah probably |
| 17:05.14 | xyu | i'll just move the unit frame anchor for now |
| 17:05.20 | xyu | hard for me to raid w/ it covering up health :P |
| 17:05.56 | keiss | doesn't cowtip have a setting to not show any tooltips in combat (not ideal , but would work until its fixed) |
| 17:06.05 | mort | it has |
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| 17:06.21 | xyu | i'll try that |
| 17:06.22 | xyu | thanks |
| 17:06.42 | xyu | it's still temporary fix thoguh |
| 17:08.02 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63311 10Chinchilla/Ping/Ping.lua: Chinchilla_Ping - hook Minimap_SetPing and Minimap_OnClick to properly work with non-round maps. |
| 17:08.05 | keiss | theres always the option to use another tooltip addon until u get it to work with cowtip |
| 17:08.15 | xyu | yep yep |
| 17:08.57 | mort | there is no tooltip addon that can really replace cowtip though... |
| 17:09.41 | keiss | if you say so ... |
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| 17:12.11 | Fin | keiss: do you know if kunda (the person!) is Czech or not? I've often wondered that |
| 17:12.27 | keiss | Fin: lol , so did i ... but didn't dare to ask :D |
| 17:12.46 | Fin | I've tried before, no response. I suspect he or she is well aware, though. :) |
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| 17:15.03 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: ah, nice work on candybar |
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| 17:18.15 | syeren | nevcairiel, Mapster is nice :) |
| 17:18.17 | syeren | Thanks :) |
| 17:18.22 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:20.51 | syeren | Hmm, would cntrl + Mousewheel to re-scale the map be too much bloat? |
| 17:21.02 | syeren | Or just want to keep it to basics :p |
| 17:21.21 | nevcairiel | its easy to add basically |
| 17:21.36 | Fin | adding the option to specify a key binding would be best I reckon |
| 17:21.46 | nevcairiel | i generally dont rescale my map, so i never thought of it really |
| 17:21.47 | vhaarr | is that the same binding as cartographer? |
| 17:21.52 | vhaarr | would be nice with consistency |
| 17:21.56 | vhaarr | for people switching |
| 17:22.05 | syeren | Well I just switched and that's the only feature I miss :) |
| 17:22.07 | Fin | let the user choose! just with sensible defaults |
| 17:22.16 | syeren | Otherwise the huge drop in memory use is nice :p |
| 17:22.22 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 17:22.54 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63312 10BigWigs/ (Sunwell/BigWigs_Sunwell.toc Sunwell/Twins.lua modules.xml): BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: add module, doesn't do much |
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| 17:24.05 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I think you broke Attumen in karazhan |
| 17:24.19 | vhaarr | got an error when doing it earlier with my alt but forgot to check it out |
| 17:24.25 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:24.51 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: was something about BigWigs_RecvSync, maybe you removed the handler but didn't remove the RegisterEvent for it |
| 17:24.57 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63313 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix bug in error message. |
| 17:25.47 | vhaarr | funny though, I drycoded Conditioner and it all worked except the "Role: DPS/Healer" tooltip line addition for raid members |
| 17:27.43 | vhaarr | but I'm wondering if I should restrict it to group 1-5 |
| 17:27.52 | renchap | wq |
| 17:27.55 | renchap | oops |
| 17:28.11 | durcyn | psh, use :x |
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| 17:29.17 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63314 10Chinchilla/ (Ping/Ping.lua locale/enUS.lua): |
| 17:29.18 | CIA-9 | Chinchilla_Ping - hook Minimap_OnUpdate, since Blizzard's implementation is buggy, now it will actually fade the ping. |
| 17:29.18 | CIA-9 | - add options to set how long the ping will last and how long the fade will be. |
| 17:32.17 | durcyn | Wobin: why is the spark behind the xp bar =( |
| 17:32.35 | Wobin | durcyn: ? |
| 17:32.54 | durcyn | Wobin: xparky 63122, spark strata seems to be lower than the bar itself |
| 17:33.06 | durcyn | i.e. it's mostly hidden |
| 17:33.24 | Wobin | no idea tbh |
| 17:33.29 | Wobin | It's all going to change anyway |
| 17:33.38 | durcyn | oh, well, carry on then. |
| 17:33.51 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63315 10Chinchilla/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Chinchilla - raise framelevel of Ping, Location, Coordinates indicators, so it doesn't conflict with GatherMate. |
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| 17:34.25 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r63316 10Recount2/ (Tags.lua expression.lua): |
| 17:34.25 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 17:34.25 | CIA-9 | -Memory usage improvements to :ProcessCompiledExpression and :ProcessCompiledTags |
| 17:34.47 | Xinhuan | heh ckknight, there's framelevel issues? |
| 17:34.59 | baumi | any1 can give me advice? i updated my ui via wowaceupdater, suddely mobinfo doesnt work at all, it seems loaded correctly (as far as i see it in the addon list) |
| 17:35.36 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, for some reason Gathermate uses Minimap+5, which is higher than necessary |
| 17:35.46 | ckknight | so I just made Chinchilla's indicators one higher than that |
| 17:36.00 | Xinhuan | it was merely a convenient number |
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| 17:36.17 | ckknight | well, +1 works just fine for Cartographer's notes |
| 17:36.25 | Xinhuan | kagaro wrote that part and initially hardcoded it to be 5 |
| 17:36.29 | baumi | lo windcape |
| 17:36.31 | Xinhuan | i later updated it to be parent+5 |
| 17:37.05 | Xinhuan | the number is quite arbitruary heh |
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| 17:43.22 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you going to do anything about ROCK-136? |
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| 17:44.00 | ckknight | I might, there are some complications I need to look into, but it's doable |
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| 17:46.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: do any pseudo-events such as OnEmbedEnabled get called? |
| 17:46.16 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 17:46.56 | Arrowmaster | AceEvent-3.0 has OnEmbedEnabled OnEmbedDisabled and OnEmbedInitalized i think |
| 17:47.57 | Arrowmaster | and they work almost the same but it should be up to the library authors to work that stuff out |
| 17:49.21 | icemoon | !ap |
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| 17:49.36 | Arrowmaster | really you could just do addon = Rock:NewAddon("Name", "Rock Lib", "Ace2 Lib"); LibStub("LibStub Lib"):Embed(addon); |
| 17:49.49 | Arrowmaster | currently |
| 17:50.12 | Arrowmaster | just easyer to be able to do all the mixins in the :NewAddon() |
| 17:51.11 | chiper | does Grid let me specify spell casting for clicking on units, or do I need something like Clique to do that |
| 17:52.13 | nevcairiel | chiper: i suppose you need Clique |
| 17:52.31 | chiper | hmm, k |
| 17:52.38 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you could use LibSink-2.0 as an example for testing even though its mixins are a little different than the example i linked (it just sets them as direct references instead of copys) |
| 17:53.16 | chiper | was considering using grid to replace smartdebuff, but perhaps I'll just use decursive |
| 17:54.11 | dylanm | You should try it. |
| 17:55.48 | Hobby-home | <3 decursive |
| 17:55.53 | ckknight | woo, works, Arrowmaster |
| 17:55.53 | [dRaCo] | grid may be great, but it's the single most ugly addon I've ever seen |
| 17:55.56 | break19 | !c us quel'dorei dugald |
| 17:55.58 | WoWLuaircBot | break19: Dugald, Level 70 Dwarf Rogue (43/0/18). 7074 HP; +10 Energy; 1112 AP; 226.800 Melee DPS; 21.98% melee crit; 174 melee hit; 17.27% dodge; 4 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 938 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y8q7r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tzgcq ][ Updated: Sat Mar 1 13:05:36 2008 EST ]] |
| 17:56.25 | chiper | [dRaCo]: and it doesn't help that it lacks any kind of config mode like pitbull. I had to join a BG to configure it |
| 17:56.32 | dylanm | It's a bunch of boxes. |
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| 17:56.45 | nevcairiel | Grid needs better defaults |
| 17:56.49 | nevcairiel | the default values are a mess |
| 17:56.54 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: yeah should basicly just be if its an aceoo mixin then embed it that way, otherwise if it has a lib:Embed(addon) then use it |
| 17:56.56 | [dRaCo] | It's a bunch of ugly boxes. *fixed |
| 17:57.14 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: essentially what I did |
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| 17:57.40 | chiper | nevcairiel: and some more tooltips. it wasnt until I started checking and unchecking while in the BG that I figured out wtf any of the options did |
| 17:57.55 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63317 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: |
| 17:57.55 | CIA-9 | LibRock-1.0 - support LibStub-based mixins that have rawget(library, "Embed") which is a function on em. |
| 17:57.55 | CIA-9 | ROCK-136 |
| 17:58.08 | nevcairiel | i'm still using sRaidFrames |
| 17:58.15 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: btw LibFBP-3.0 has 2xOnEmbedProfileEnable |
| 17:58.16 | nevcairiel | i always wanted to design a new skin for sRF |
| 17:58.21 | nevcairiel | that looks a bit more "compact" |
| 17:58.31 | nevcairiel | mm maybe i'll get on that |
| 17:59.12 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: blah |
| 17:59.20 | dylanm | PerfectRaid is the answer. |
| 17:59.32 | dylanm | Well, not necessarily but I like it :> |
| 17:59.50 | nevcairiel | personally i dont like the PR layout |
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| 17:59.58 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63318 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 - remove a pointless :OnEmbedProfileEnable |
| 17:59.59 | break19 | i just wish I didnt have embed the entire rock framework to make a fubar3 plugin.. :) |
| 18:00.07 | nevcairiel | but thats why we have choices, right? :) |
| 18:00.19 | ckknight | break19: make a jira ticket under ROCK, would you? |
| 18:00.26 | ckknight | I'll see if I can disembed it cleanly |
| 18:00.34 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: im already working on that |
| 18:00.43 | Kurax | !ap 1612 |
| 18:00.43 | break19 | ckknight: yea, sure. i gotta go help the wife first.. but yea, I'll post it later. |
| 18:00.43 | WoWLuaircBot | Kurax: Arena points from a rating of 1612 is, 2v2: 365, 3v3: 423, 5v5: 481 |
| 18:00.45 | nevcairiel | you will need some framework of sorts i assume |
| 18:00.45 | Arrowmaster | got it all done except configs |
| 18:00.51 | nevcairiel | to store the config |
| 18:00.54 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 18:00.57 | ckknight | configs and such |
| 18:01.36 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: will your FBP-3.0 work with FuBar-2.0 too ? :P |
| 18:02.02 | Arrowmaster | no since its just the rocked FBP-3.0 without rock |
| 18:02.50 | ckknight | so you all know, I think Ace3 is a great framework, I really do think so |
| 18:02.55 | Arrowmaster | i did change the version check from >= 3.0 to be > 2.0 so if somebody ever fixes up FuBar-2.0 to be FuBar-2.1 it would work |
| 18:03.22 | Arrowmaster | if FuBar-2.1 supported FBP-3.0 |
| 18:04.10 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: want to see what ive got so far for FBP-3 without rock? |
| 18:04.23 | ckknight | maybe in a little bit, bbl |
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| 18:06.45 | Stanzilla | vhaarr / Funkeh` http://ace.pastey.net/83214 |
| 18:07.01 | nevcairiel | thats the bug vhaarr found :D |
| 18:07.29 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 18:07.30 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: whats the current callback usage with AceConfigRegistry? |
| 18:07.51 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 18:07.56 | nevcairiel | what do you mean? |
| 18:08.05 | Arrowmaster | well i see it has callbacks in it |
| 18:08.12 | Arrowmaster | but i dont see where theyre used |
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| 18:09.10 | nevcairiel | you can call AceConfigRegistry:NotifyChange(addon) to notify the AceConfig implementations that the options table changed, and it should do a full refresh of all open config screens |
| 18:09.16 | nevcairiel | thats all on callbacks it uses |
| 18:09.26 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 18:09.48 | Arrowmaster | was hoping for something similair to what Rock has (but not) |
| 18:09.50 | nevcairiel | AceConfigDialog registers for that event then |
| 18:09.57 | nevcairiel | what does it have ? |
| 18:10.16 | Arrowmaster | RockConfig:SetConfigTable(configTable) calls mixin.GetEmbedRockConfigOptions |
| 18:10.47 | nevcairiel | oh yeah we didnt want that because everything is loosely binded |
| 18:11.07 | Arrowmaster | basicly some way to register to know when a config table is set so i can modifiy it from mixins |
| 18:12.22 | nevcairiel | all Ace3 libraries are self-contained, we purposely avoided hard links between them that would make something like that possible |
| 18:12.36 | nevcairiel | AceConfig can be called from anywhere, not only from a mixin |
| 18:12.50 | nevcairiel | and the name of that config can be arbitary |
| 18:12.51 | Arrowmaster | due to how the configs arent directly linked to the aceaddon objects im already making one assumution i probably shouldnt be and using AceConfigDialog:Open(self.name) |
| 18:13.21 | nevcairiel | ya the name can be anything the dev wants it to be |
| 18:13.46 | nevcairiel | I still suggest to add one API command that the dev has to explicitly call, and give you all the information you need |
| 18:13.50 | break19 | ckknight: FUB-120 |
| 18:13.57 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: but what about just a callback for when a new configtable is registered |
| 18:14.21 | Arrowmaster | i could use that |
| 18:14.27 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: that could probably be done, it still doesnt give you any relation between table and addon object |
| 18:14.34 | Arrowmaster | i know that |
| 18:14.56 | Arrowmaster | i can work around that and just add a new setting for aceconfig3 table name |
| 18:15.01 | Arrowmaster | and use that |
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| 18:15.18 | nevcairiel | jira it, and i'll look into it |
| 18:15.27 | syeren | I think every action bar addon should have Action Bar Saver built in. |
| 18:15.29 | syeren | Amazing addon :> |
| 18:15.48 | Arrowmaster | ok, but does it sound like something that would be accepted? |
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| 18:17.12 | nevcairiel | it might be useful to other stuff that wants to operate on the tables too, and its like 1 line of code to add |
| 18:17.15 | nevcairiel | so why not |
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| 18:18.25 | nevcairiel | you only run into problems if someone uses a function to supply the options table :D |
| 18:19.25 | Arrowmaster | but you still get the name right? and you would know that its now registered |
| 18:19.31 | nevcairiel | yes, sure |
| 18:22.39 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63319 10PitBull/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: |
| 18:22.39 | CIA-9 | PitBull_VisualHeal - fix issues with deficit and reverse looking funny. |
| 18:22.39 | CIA-9 | - make it so that tabs are tabs again and not 4 spaces. |
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| 18:24.52 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r63320 10aX_RaidStatus/ (RaidStatusCore.lua aX_RaidStatus.toc): |
| 18:24.52 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus(0.55 Beta): |
| 18:24.52 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Errors that involve f.xxx (I never got these, so I can't test this fix) |
| 18:24.52 | CIA-9 | - Change: You can nolonger force an update while in a battleground. |
| 18:24.52 | CIA-9 | - Change: You can now only use docking mode if Dock in turned on. |
| 18:24.53 | CIA-9 | - Change: Debug mode will now create a window (ChatFrame7) and dock it to the left side of your screen. If you are using ChatFrame7, it will work the way it always has (ChatFrame1) |
| 18:24.58 | CIA-9 | - Removed: Some old code. |
| 18:26.00 | CIA-9 | 03snago * r63321 10IHML/ (IHML.lua locales/locale-deDE.lua locales/locale-enUS.lua): |
| 18:26.00 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
| 18:26.00 | CIA-9 | - Added #showtooltip to default macros and changed some more default icons to the '?'. (Assumed #showtooltip works untranslated in deDE, please fix otherwise) |
| 18:26.00 | CIA-9 | - Disable "Remove macro" when there's no macro to remove. |
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| 18:33.39 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-147 |
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| 18:43.15 | Mezir|SemiAFK | hi |
| 18:43.33 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i need a addon to post a list of my enchants maybe with auto answers |
| 18:43.50 | Mezir|SemiAFK | enchantlist doesnt work for me |
| 18:45.57 | Grum | ~api QueryAuctionItems |
| 18:45.58 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_QueryAuctionItems |
| 18:46.57 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63322 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: add source argument to listener |
| 18:49.02 | CIA-9 | 03gibbonz * r63323 10MinimapCoords/ (MinimapCoords.lua MinimapCoords.toc): |
| 18:49.02 | CIA-9 | MinimapCoords: |
| 18:49.02 | CIA-9 | - Removed addon loaded message |
| 18:49.02 | CIA-9 | - Updated toc for 2.3 |
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| 18:55.12 | Mezir|SemiAFK | o.o |
| 18:55.23 | Mezir|SemiAFK | nobody? still searching for an addon to pos my enchantlist |
| 18:55.32 | Mezir|SemiAFK | like !feet |
| 18:55.35 | Mezir|SemiAFK | and so on |
| 18:57.19 | Grum | CraftyGnome orso should do it |
| 18:57.25 | Grum | dunno the exact name :D |
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| 18:57.46 | nevcairiel | craftygnome only responds to whisper querys |
| 18:59.26 | Xinhuan | get Craftlist2 or CraftyGnome |
| 18:59.41 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: try my CraftyGnome and tell me what you think |
| 18:59.42 | Xinhuan | enchantlist is deprecated |
| 18:59.49 | Xinhuan | author rewrote it as enchantlist |
| 18:59.54 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 18:59.55 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: right, thanks |
| 18:59.56 | Xinhuan | craftlist2 |
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| 19:01.25 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63324 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: BigWigs: Attumen: Bugfix. |
| 19:01.55 | Xinhuan | vhaarr does craftygnome allow filtering by selection |
| 19:02.07 | vhaarr | what selection? |
| 19:02.20 | Xinhuan | meaning i can unselect certain recipes from ever being reported |
| 19:02.25 | Xinhuan | as an answer |
| 19:02.33 | vhaarr | no, that should not be needed |
| 19:02.43 | Xinhuan | what about adding in additional text |
| 19:02.54 | vhaarr | there are no config options at all |
| 19:03.00 | Xinhuan | for eg, for surefooted enchant, i have craftlist2 report additional custom text: "50g my nether" |
| 19:03.10 | Xinhuan | which is appended to the reply link |
| 19:03.21 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 19:03.28 | Xinhuan | or "out of stock of nethers" |
| 19:03.41 | vhaarr | well nethers will be BoE next patch, so I'm not willing to specialcase for it now |
| 19:03.42 | nevcairiel | just wait for 2.4 and let the buyer supply the nether =P |
| 19:03.54 | Xinhuan | that's just a particular case |
| 19:04.07 | Xinhuan | for eg, if i charge a 5g fee for certain enchants, and 3g fee for others, i typically list it as well |
| 19:04.23 | Tornhoof | xinhuan is too rich |
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| 19:04.29 | Xinhuan | also different fees if i provide mats |
| 19:04.34 | Xinhuan | vs you provide your own mats |
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| 19:06.17 | vhaarr | it could be added easily I guess |
| 19:06.27 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63325 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: Nova, conflag, pyro |
| 19:06.36 | vhaarr | either adding a text box to the crafting frame where you enter it or with shift+click on a recipe and a staticpopup |
| 19:06.53 | Xinhuan | craftlist2's method is a textbox per recipe |
| 19:07.06 | vhaarr | and the reply could be "cg: [recipe]: <note>" |
| 19:07.18 | Xinhuan | the reply is typically |
| 19:07.19 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: what does that mean? |
| 19:07.27 | Xinhuan | CL2: [the link] the note |
| 19:07.35 | kenlyric | can I use recount to track how often a non-damage ability procs? |
| 19:07.36 | Xinhuan | for eg |
| 19:07.47 | Xinhuan | CL2: [Enchant: Surefooted] 50g my nether |
| 19:07.52 | vhaarr | "textbox per recipe", what does that mean |
| 19:07.58 | Xinhuan | it uses waterfall |
| 19:08.01 | Arrowmaster | CraftList2's config for that is so bad, giant waterfall frame of every recipe and a textbox for each one |
| 19:08.05 | Xinhuan | so there's a waterfall textbox per recipe |
| 19:08.06 | vhaarr | oh god that sounds horrible |
| 19:08.10 | kenlyric | or maybe violation? |
| 19:08.26 | Xinhuan | so if you have 300 recipes, there's 300 checkboxes to enable/disable that recipe for replying |
| 19:08.32 | Xinhuan | and also 300 textboxes for a note each |
| 19:08.44 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 19:08.48 | Xinhuan | its in alpha order so its not too bad |
| 19:09.06 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: if I added it to CraftyGnome, I think it would be a text box added to the craft/tradeskill frame where you could enter a simple oneline note, or you Modifier+Click on a recipe in the list and get a staticpopup where you can enter the note |
| 19:09.09 | Mezir|SemiAFK | errrrrrrrrr |
| 19:09.15 | Mezir|SemiAFK | and how do i use craftygnome |
| 19:09.23 | Recluse | Xinhuan: ty for r63250 Routes <3 |
| 19:09.24 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: depending on what would be easiest to implement :P |
| 19:09.41 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: 1. Install it, 2. Open your tradeskills, 3. Whisper !craft to yourself |
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| 19:10.28 | Mezir|SemiAFK | o.o |
| 19:10.36 | Mezir|SemiAFK | not exactly what im searching for |
| 19:11.05 | Xinhuan | Recluse, does my fix work? heh |
| 19:11.09 | Mezir|SemiAFK | i mean nice but a lil to much reading stuff =/ |
| 19:11.19 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: what are you looking for then? |
| 19:11.23 | Mezir|SemiAFK | hm |
| 19:11.35 | Mezir|SemiAFK | what about check the addons you want to display |
| 19:11.39 | Recluse | Xinhuan: haven't tried yet, working on updating everything, but saw the changelog and had a sigh of relief :) |
| 19:11.42 | Mezir|SemiAFK | press a button to say it in /2 |
| 19:11.58 | Mezir|SemiAFK | *crafts |
| 19:12.10 | vhaarr | well with craftygnome you can just make a macro |
| 19:12.19 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 19:12.22 | Mezir|SemiAFK | how? |
| 19:12.26 | vhaarr | that says "Enchanter looking for work, whisper me !enchant to query" |
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| 19:12.44 | vhaarr | or whatever |
| 19:12.44 | Xinhuan | you should see mine :) |
| 19:12.50 | Mezir|SemiAFK | the main prob is |
| 19:12.53 | Mezir|SemiAFK | that it's in english |
| 19:12.59 | Xinhuan | /2 375 Jewelcrafter/Enchanter for hire - Can cut ALL gems (!gem), ALL enchants (!enchant) |
| 19:13.02 | Xinhuan | /2 WTS Surefooted enchant - 39 nethers available |
| 19:13.02 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: so translate it for me? |
| 19:13.03 | Mezir|SemiAFK | :> im not playing on an english realm |
| 19:13.13 | Mezir|SemiAFK | oÔ hm |
| 19:13.16 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: look at the top of CraftyGnome.lua |
| 19:13.20 | vhaarr | translating it is easy |
| 19:13.31 | Xinhuan | i mean it thought, when i mean ALL gems and enchants ;p |
| 19:13.35 | Xinhuan | though* |
| 19:13.45 | Xinhuan | can do them all |
| 19:13.46 | Grum | you cant make all |
| 19:13.51 | dylanm | He totally can. |
| 19:13.58 | Xinhuan | well the scryer/aldor ones obvious i can't |
| 19:14.00 | Grum | nope its impossible to make 1 ;D |
| 19:14.00 | Xinhuan | but other than that |
| 19:14.04 | Xinhuan | i can do them all |
| 19:14.07 | Grum | nice |
| 19:14.13 | dylanm | Xinhuan is a baller when it comes to the market. |
| 19:14.20 | Mezir|SemiAFK | maybe ill give it a try when im bored |
| 19:14.20 | vhaarr | it's possible to be able to make both |
| 19:14.27 | vhaarr | just rep with one faction first and then the other? |
| 19:14.29 | Grum | vhaarr: yeah lol |
| 19:14.31 | Grum | its PAINFUL :P |
| 19:14.33 | Diao | i did that |
| 19:14.33 | Xinhuan | yeah but i cbf? :p |
| 19:14.35 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 19:14.35 | Diao | it's not very hard :P |
| 19:14.40 | dylanm | You must do it. |
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| 19:14.46 | Grum | indeed Xinhuan |
| 19:14.47 | Grum | DO IT |
| 19:14.52 | Xinhuan | no ty |
| 19:14.54 | Grum | you suck otherwise |
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| 19:14.54 | Diao | i did it for bs patterns even |
| 19:14.56 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: there are like 10 strings you must translate and you're done |
| 19:14.56 | Diao | lol |
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| 19:15.14 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: it would take me about 7 minutes to translate it to my native language |
| 19:15.36 | dylanm | BS patterns? Yikes. That's hardcore. |
| 19:15.37 | Xinhuan | i am happy enough with my existing 32 or something exalted factions, and my 6 different titles ;p |
| 19:15.56 | Diao | yep i'm an enchanter/bs :P |
| 19:15.58 | Tornhoof | and your 6 digit number gold? |
| 19:16.00 | Mezir|SemiAFK | whats the diff btw enchantlist and enchantlist 2? |
| 19:16.08 | Mezir|SemiAFK | seems to be what im searching |
| 19:16.10 | Xinhuan | enchantlist is no longer maintained |
| 19:16.11 | Mezir|SemiAFK | for |
| 19:16.17 | Grum | not even 6 digits! |
| 19:16.23 | Xinhuan | author abandoned it, and wrote craftlist, then wrote craftlist2 |
| 19:16.31 | Grum | or did you pass 100 already xin? (i bet you could if you wanted) |
| 19:16.38 | vhaarr | then I saw that it sucked and wrote CraftyGnome |
| 19:16.39 | Xinhuan | which combines !gem, !enchant and !craft together into 1 addon |
| 19:16.55 | Xinhuan | craftygnome doesn't yet have the features i would like yet ;p |
| 19:17.00 | Xinhuan | which i mentioned above |
| 19:17.12 | vhaarr | yes but if I add the note stuff, it will |
| 19:17.53 | Mezir|SemiAFK | well im from switzerland so i'd need a german version =/ |
| 19:18.05 | Mezir|SemiAFK | it seems that theres a german enchantlist |
| 19:18.06 | vhaarr | so MAKE one, how hard is it? |
| 19:18.29 | vhaarr | ~seen gamefaq |
| 19:18.30 | purl | gamefaq <i=Gamefaq@pD9E6192C.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 23h 50m 2s ago, saying: 'full ui...'. |
| 19:18.30 | nevcairiel | i thought it just searches by tooltip keywords |
| 19:18.33 | Xinhuan | w00t |
| 19:18.37 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yeah but the help strings etc |
| 19:18.40 | Xinhuan | 3 living rubies from my consortium gem bag this month |
| 19:18.41 | Mezir|SemiAFK | its not hard its just too much work for something that little |
| 19:18.41 | Xinhuan | 3 living rubies from my consortium gem bag this month |
| 19:18.42 | Xinhuan | w00t |
| 19:18.43 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: "Too many results", etc |
| 19:18.45 | nevcairiel | l2english imho |
| 19:18.52 | vhaarr | Mezir|SemiAFK: it's not much work, you suck. |
| 19:18.56 | vhaarr | it's TEN strings |
| 19:19.02 | nevcairiel | oh right, consortium bag |
| 19:19.04 | Grum | consortium gembag? :D |
| 19:19.09 | aestil | Xinhuan: did you just repeat yourself? |
| 19:19.11 | Mezir|SemiAFK | oÔ |
| 19:19.12 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:19.14 | Xinhuan | for emphasis :) |
| 19:19.20 | aestil | maybe you're having a stroke |
| 19:19.21 | kenlyric | I don't even go anymore. |
| 19:19.24 | Mezir|SemiAFK | suck my balls you dont habe to be rude |
| 19:19.32 | kenlyric | one day, i'll not be lazy and hit revered. But not today |
| 19:19.43 | Grum | gembag? explaiN! :( |
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| 19:19.57 | aestil | i would prefer not to suck your balls. thank you though. |
| 19:19.58 | Tornhoof | your monthly bribe by the consortium |
| 19:20.14 | nevcairiel | haha grum doesnt know about the gembag |
| 19:20.17 | nevcairiel | nobody tell him! |
| 19:20.21 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 19:20.47 | Xinhuan | :d |
| 19:20.58 | Mezir|SemiAFK | <_< durr |
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| 19:22.27 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 19:22.28 | nevcairiel | 5 green gems |
| 19:22.30 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 19:22.59 | nevcairiel | 3 blue last month, now 5 low quality shit .. damn you! |
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| 19:23.55 | Diao | yeah nevcairiel |
| 19:23.58 | Diao | this month has been terrible for me |
| 19:24.03 | Diao | on 4 70s |
| 19:24.07 | Diao | all revered |
| 19:24.12 | Diao | 1 blue gem (talasite) the rest green |
| 19:24.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:24.18 | Diao | last month i got a bunch of blues |
| 19:24.38 | nevcairiel | taking my second char now |
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| 19:26.45 | Tornhoof | 3 green, one star of elune |
| 19:26.57 | vhaarr | 2x star of elune, 1x dawnstone |
| 19:26.57 | vhaarr | wee |
| 19:27.22 | nevcairiel | more green on my warrior .. doh |
| 19:29.34 | aestil | my wife had one accident where she bumped into someone. no one was even close to being hurt, and the dmgs to both cars were minor. |
| 19:29.44 | aestil | it made her lose her 'good driver' discount. rediculous. |
| 19:31.48 | CIA-9 | 03maqjav * r63326 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.es.lua: |
| 19:31.49 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:31.49 | CIA-9 | - esES update. |
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| 19:35.39 | Kivin | Sigh. Wish I were Alliance... Might actually win a BG or two |
| 19:36.05 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63327 10MagicMarker/ (10 files in 2 dirs): MagicMarker: Initial import |
| 19:36.12 | Gibbonz | that works both ways kivin ;p |
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| 19:36.59 | Kivin | Gibbonz: Horde is the most epic failure on my battlegroup |
| 19:37.04 | Kivin | There's absolutely nothing we're good at |
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| 19:37.30 | Gibbonz | which group's that? |
| 19:37.34 | Kivin | Whirlwind |
| 19:37.43 | Gibbonz | ah.. Cyclone here |
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| 19:38.16 | Kivin | The last time I farmed 40 EOS Tokens for a sword, I won 4 rounds. that's 4 wins to 28 losses, or something |
| 19:38.38 | Kivin | I've gone 15 or more AVs in a row without a win |
| 19:39.14 | Gibbonz | ouch ;p |
| 19:39.26 | Xinhuan | my last 15 AVs, horde won all of them |
| 19:40.02 | Kivin | then you know how i feel |
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| 19:40.26 | Kivin | Historically, AB has been my solace. It's the one place we actually win... sometimes. Lately, I've had teams that epitomize arrogance and stupidity |
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| 19:51.53 | NeoTron | well step 1 done. now I "just" need to finish the addon :P |
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| 19:53.55 | nevcairiel | initial import commits should say what a addon does .... :P |
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| 20:02.48 | RaydenUni | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?320203210000000000000000505013550501005110512300000000000000000000 |
| 20:02.51 | RaydenUni | looking at this for leveling |
| 20:03.07 | RaydenUni | when should i put points into arms? |
| 20:03.14 | RaydenUni | i'm lvl 34 |
| 20:04.36 | break19 | meh. its been a long damn time since my warrior was 34.. |
| 20:04.58 | mort | your first priority is to get an instant attack with lvl40, be it ms or bt |
| 20:05.09 | break19 | but I kinda played it by ear until level 60, then respecd to prot and stayed prot up to 70 |
| 20:05.35 | mort | let me check, i've read a nice lvlguide for warrior some days ago |
| 20:05.51 | mort | it had a comparion for various specs while leveling |
| 20:06.51 | mort | http://www.theoryspot.com/forums/tankspot-library/35502-warrior-leveling-demystified.html |
| 20:07.56 | CIA-9 | 03nymbia * r63329 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (10 files in 10 dirs): |
| 20:07.56 | CIA-9 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 20:07.56 | CIA-9 | - Change the toc titles to be a little more consistent with libraries these days. |
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| 20:12.40 | RaydenUni | that's a nice site |
| 20:12.43 | RaydenUni | showing dps for the 3 specs |
| 20:12.55 | haste | ~seen industrial |
| 20:12.57 | purl | industrial <n=Industri@194.145.194.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 8d 11h 5m 19s ago, saying: ':p'. |
| 20:14.39 | mort | i still ned motivation to level my warrior :/ |
| 20:15.11 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so I realized but can't change that now |
| 20:16.39 | mort | there are so many horrible protwarrior, i really need to start on leveling him ;) |
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| 20:31.45 | Poul|Raider | What should i search for on google if i want to find some guides on making grafical objects to fill less, want to make some objects to use for a design from wowmodels, and would like it to fill as little as posible with it still looking good(useing photoshop= |
| 20:32.22 | pastamancer | that didn't really make sense |
| 20:32.46 | Poul|Raider | hmm |
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| 20:33.52 | Poul|Raider | i want to optimise some images for webuse in terms of datatransfer |
| 20:34.01 | pastamancer | ah |
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| 20:34.10 | Poul|Raider | and need some guides to tell me that |
| 20:34.19 | Poul|Raider | or how i can do that |
| 20:34.28 | pastamancer | "web ready" |
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| 20:34.54 | dylanm | Do you have PhotoShop? |
| 20:34.56 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 20:35.09 | Poul|Raider | normal just use the save for web |
| 20:35.21 | dylanm | What that does is pretty good, yeah. |
| 20:36.08 | Poul|Raider | but thers not something i can do in photoshop to optimize it before doing that, as etc saveing as a gif, can makes it look bad because there is used alot more colors then 256 etc |
| 20:36.19 | rubik | speaking of leveling... pally alt just hit 60 the other day and haven't been prot yet.. seems to do ok-ish as lolret spec.. my goal is to do nothing but questing to get to 70.. should i still go prot or not bother? |
| 20:36.38 | dylanm | Well there are options in that dialog. |
| 20:37.02 | Poul|Raider | ok, i will just continue useing that then |
| 20:37.12 | dylanm | 256 doesn't seem sufficient for most things. |
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| 20:37.56 | Arrowmaster | what kinda image are you wanting to make more 'web friendly' |
| 20:38.11 | Poul|Raider | atm it was just a model from wowmodelviewer |
| 20:38.13 | Arrowmaster | and why |
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| 20:38.22 | Poul|Raider | wanted to use it in a form for abit cooler looks |
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| 20:39.28 | Zhinjio | G'morning. |
| 20:39.37 | Arrowmaster | what is it in its current state? |
| 20:39.53 | Arrowmaster | tga? png? jpg? and how large? |
| 20:40.16 | Poul|Raider | i just used the save screenshot in wowmodelviewer, a jpg if im not mistaken, 2sec |
| 20:40.26 | Poul|Raider | bmp |
| 20:41.01 | Arrowmaster | just convert it to a jpg |
| 20:41.08 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 20:41.23 | Arrowmaster | should be a lot smaller |
| 20:41.40 | durcyn | 72 dpi jpeg, fwiw |
| 20:41.45 | Poul|Raider | oki |
| 20:42.07 | durcyn | those print-quality 300 dpi images tend to be a bit large ;) |
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| 20:43.16 | Poul|Raider | 72dpi, thats the pixel/inch when creating a new image in photoshop? |
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| 20:57.47 | CIA-9 | 03pastamancer 07AutoLayout * r63330 10Grid/Grid/embeds.xml: Grid: restore embeds.xml |
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| 21:07.00 | Fisker- | whats that about, some url put in prat? |
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| 21:10.31 | Silowyi | does anyone know if wuu will download without externals from wowace? |
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| 21:13.50 | Obelixprime | anyone have any experience with actioncombat? |
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| 21:14.45 | CIA-9 | BackSeatGladiator: |
| 21:14.45 | CIA-9 | - Nuke, I'll maybe write this sometime. |
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| 21:23.11 | CIA-9 | MobMitigation: |
| 21:23.11 | CIA-9 | - Tag dir |
| 21:23.17 | Silowyi | Anyone know of a good alternative to TinyTip? |
| 21:23.24 | CIA-9 | 03nymbia 072.0 * r63333 10MobMitigation/: |
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| 21:24.43 | Grum | Silowyi: cowtip does the job |
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| 21:25.27 | Amadeo | Silowyi: TipTac |
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| 21:26.10 | CIA-9 | MobMitigation: |
| 21:26.10 | CIA-9 | - Remove from trunk. 2.4 is going to brutally wreck this, will need a near-total rewrite. Until then, suffer in tags. |
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| 21:29.42 | Amadeo | I put my account to sleep, maybe I'll come back when WotLK comes out |
| 21:34.15 | Silowyi | Amadeo: Let me guess, you play a druid |
| 21:34.37 | Amadeo | No |
| 21:34.43 | Amadeo | I wish I did! |
| 21:35.01 | Amadeo | I didn't cancel because of class issues |
| 21:35.15 | Silowyi | wishing you had a druid |
| 21:35.22 | Silowyi | is like saying you prefer bondage sex |
| 21:35.28 | Amadeo | The game is just boring now, it's like playing Diablo over and over, lol |
| 21:35.33 | Amadeo | Yeah, so what! |
| 21:36.04 | Silowyi | bastard redheaded child... soon to be unplayable in all specs in pvp and pve :P |
| 21:36.14 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:36.25 | Amadeo | I haven't been happy with the direction of the game for a long time |
| 21:36.35 | durcyn | but, but, but, e-sport |
| 21:36.40 | Amadeo | I'm hoping that WotLK addresses some of it, but if not, I can find other stuff to do |
| 21:36.48 | Silowyi | You know its funny how things have gone |
| 21:37.06 | Silowyi | back in the day Blizzard only made very small changes per patch |
| 21:37.16 | Silowyi | except with the class reviews |
| 21:37.19 | Funkeh` | nymbia is oding work |
| 21:37.21 | Funkeh` | like wtf |
| 21:37.25 | Silowyi | now they are making broad, sweeping changes every single patch. |
| 21:37.25 | Amadeo | I liked class reviews |
| 21:37.26 | Funkeh` | whaaaaat? |
| 21:37.33 | nymbia | wuh |
| 21:37.40 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 21:37.40 | Xinhuan | nuking a few folders doesn't count as work |
| 21:37.41 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 21:37.47 | nymbia | SURE IT DOES |
| 21:37.51 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 21:37.55 | Xinhuan | get on quartz3 :D |
| 21:37.56 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 21:38.04 | Silowyi | I mean seriously, what's up with giving everyone in a shaman's party permanent MS |
| 21:38.11 | Xinhuan | oh Silowyi |
| 21:38.11 | nymbia | i'm squishing down the amount of stuff i need to concern myself with maintaining |
| 21:38.20 | Xinhuan | you mean like how, warriors, rogues and hunters already have MS? |
| 21:38.24 | Silowyi | not to mention its a weapon enchant. so guess what class won't ever benifit from it |
| 21:38.28 | Amadeo | Silowyi: I haven't even kept up, I cancelled a month ago :P |
| 21:38.29 | nymbia | so that doing some work isn't such a big task ;) |
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| 21:38.46 | Silowyi | Xinhaun all of those have cooldowns except wound poison which can be cleansed |
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| 21:39.03 | Silowyi | flametongue debuff is permanent ms as long as someone is hitting you |
| 21:39.10 | Fisker- | NYMBIA |
| 21:39.10 | durcyn | Silowyi: you DO realize that shamans have self-only weapon enchants, aside from totems? |
| 21:39.12 | Fisker- | DON'T LEAVE ME |
| 21:39.13 | Fisker- | NOOO |
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| 21:39.24 | Fisker- | glad to see you back |
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| 21:39.39 | Silowyi | Durcyn: I don't see how that has anything to do with it, the patch notes say it affects Flametongue weapon and Flametongue totem |
| 21:39.48 | durcyn | the last note i saw was weapon only |
| 21:39.51 | Silowyi | nope |
| 21:39.58 | Amadeo | That's one of the things I hate most about WoW, there's no class diversity anymore, they just copypaste abilities from one class to the next...one day they'll all be the same, you'll just choose one class when you make a new char :P |
| 21:40.05 | durcyn | oh, well then, fuck that noise. |
| 21:40.58 | Amadeo | Maybe that class will be Death Knight :P |
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| 21:45.13 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 21:45.24 | Fisker- | Are there any special guid flags for players btw? |
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| 21:51.18 | Orionshock | Fisker-: no |
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| 21:54.10 | CIA-9 | 03orionshock * r63335 10GuildCraft/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:54.10 | CIA-9 | GuildCraft: |
| 21:54.10 | CIA-9 | -UTF-8 w/o BoM everything, Remove useless toc file, |
| 21:54.10 | CIA-9 | -Make Out of Guild Traffic work. |
| 21:55.42 | Orionshock | all i can say is with AceComm-3.0+ AceSerializer-3.0, doing addon comms is rather eazy |
| 21:59.19 | CIA-9 | 03nirek * r63336 10HotCandy/HotCandy.toc: HotCandy: remove nonexistant addonloader event |
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| 22:15.58 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r63337 10Incubator/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:15.58 | CIA-9 | Incubator: |
| 22:15.58 | CIA-9 | - added a ghost flag so mod won't be disabled while a ghost |
| 22:15.58 | CIA-9 | - changed icon |
| 22:16.54 | Dklein | is there a WoW-Api function to see wheter there is an Item in my Backpack and I'm able to equip it? |
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| 22:18.54 | vhaarr | GetItemCount and IsEquippableItem |
| 22:20.13 | Dklein | thanks :) |
| 22:24.00 | NeoTron | In 2.4, given a unit ID is there a way to get the name of it? |
| 22:24.14 | vhaarr | no |
| 22:24.21 | NeoTron | as I thought |
| 22:24.36 | NeoTron | which means that for display purposes I still need to save the names |
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| 22:26.42 | Moralis | vhaar? |
| 22:27.12 | Moralis | what about having the setraid icon option in mobnotes |
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| 22:29.32 | charon | morning |
| 22:29.53 | mjc | Kemayo: ping. :) |
| 22:30.50 | charon | macro question: i have a "health pot and shift back to bear" panic button for tanking, i've previously used it via mouse but want to map it to ctrl-1 |
| 22:31.15 | charon | so it reads more or less /cancelform [button:2] | /use pot | /cast [button:2] bear form |
| 22:31.23 | charon | (so that it's a generic pot button as well) |
| 22:31.56 | charon | but if i add [modifier:ctrl] to every [button:2], that doesn't work. is there a way to do that without using another macro? |
| 22:35.48 | Arrowmaster | all key presses are cosidered button1 |
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| 22:36.14 | charon | well, i had /cast [modifier:ctrl] [button:2] Dire Bear Form |
| 22:36.22 | charon | which should IIRC be an "or" of sorts? |
| 22:36.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah it should |
| 22:36.49 | charon | but the macro just got me stuck in caster when i used it via ctrl-1 |
| 22:37.14 | charon | well, thanks anyway, i'll probably have to waste another macro slot |
| 22:37.38 | Orionshock | charon: BindPad off of wowi |
| 22:37.59 | Moralis | oh hi |
| 22:38.27 | Moralis | orionshock , i am the one asking SetRaidIcon |
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| 22:38.45 | Orionshock | Moralis: eh? |
| 22:39.37 | charon | Orionshock: that doesn't get me more macro slots, does it? (just fewer action bar slots needed) |
| 22:40.32 | Orionshock | charon: it allows you to bind arbitrary spells / macros / items |
| 22:40.40 | Orionshock | so you could just bind DBF to ctl 1 |
| 22:41.48 | Moralis | remember the posting about SetRaidIcon |
| 22:41.57 | Orionshock | sorta no |
| 22:42.04 | charon | Orionshock: well you see, ctrl-1 is on a bar that switches mappings with forms, and (off screen) bar space isn't something i'm really short of |
| 22:42.13 | charon | i just have too many macros :) |
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| 22:48.05 | Orionshock | charon: change play style? |
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| 22:51.53 | kebinusan | hmm, someone should modify the quartz timer module so you can use things like 5m for a 5 minute timer instead of having to remember how many seconds it is |
| 22:52.13 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.19 | kebinusan | yes I know |
| 22:52.30 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:53.57 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r63338 10Recount2/Tags.lua: |
| 22:53.57 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 22:53.57 | CIA-9 | -Ints will now display as ints instead of floats for compiled tags if no formatting is specified |
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| 23:02.06 | Camci | http://www.ownagevideos.com/hosted/10879/cop-vs-old-lady.html |
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| 23:05.33 | NeoTron | Moralis: maybe what you'er looking for is the addon I'm developing... allowing you to mark targets smartly and mostly automatically.. |
| 23:08.13 | Orionshock | Moralis: oh that... |
| 23:09.01 | CIA-9 | 03nymbia 072.4 * r63339 10Quartz/: |
| 23:09.01 | CIA-9 | Quartz: |
| 23:09.01 | CIA-9 | - Branch for 2.4 |
| 23:09.10 | Stanzilla | z0mg! |
| 23:09.28 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 23:09.29 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
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| 23:16.11 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_030108_161524.jpg |
| 23:16.12 | Antiarc | :) |
| 23:16.56 | NeoTron | Antiarc: configuration from hell! |
| 23:17.03 | breser | Yeah deep enough menus... |
| 23:17.11 | Antiarc | NeoTron: I'm showing off the menu lib I'm working on :P |
| 23:17.37 | Daemona | pullout bars? |
| 23:17.42 | Antiarc | Not yet :P |
| 23:17.46 | Daemona | work harder ! |
| 23:17.56 | vhaarr | Antiarc: I'm a bit confused about those Omen modes, why does it need them at all? |
| 23:18.15 | Antiarc | It's various displays of threat, for various circumstances. |
| 23:18.29 | vhaarr | I see that, but why can it not be autodetected and applied internally? |
| 23:18.33 | vhaarr | it seems really bloaty |
| 23:18.54 | vhaarr | either you have a target or you're in healer/aoe mode |
| 23:19.03 | vhaarr | what's the difference between healer and aoe? |
| 23:19.07 | Antiarc | Well, you may have a target and still want AOE mode |
| 23:19.15 | Antiarc | Healer mode shows threat lists per tank target |
| 23:19.52 | vhaarr | okay, it seems to me that this is just bloat |
| 23:20.04 | vhaarr | I can't imagine ever switching to a custom mode like that |
| 23:20.11 | Antiarc | What class do you play? |
| 23:20.31 | mykx | from someone who plays a warlock I think the AoE mode is a welcome change |
| 23:20.32 | vhaarr | well I have a warrior prot tank, holy priest, warlock and rogue. |
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| 23:20.37 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_030108_161958.jpg |
| 23:20.39 | vhaarr | mykx: I disagree. |
| 23:20.42 | Antiarc | That's the healer mode |
| 23:20.55 | vhaarr | when I aoe with my warlock, I don't really care if I get aggro, the healers should handle that |
| 23:21.03 | vhaarr | and when I'm healing, I don't even care about threat at ALL |
| 23:21.06 | vhaarr | and I NEVER have |
| 23:21.10 | vhaarr | I don't think I'm going to start now |
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| 23:21.42 | NeoTron | I for one welcome the new AoE mode |
| 23:21.47 | mykx | well if you pull on the aoe packs in hyjal you can take a lot of damage so its nice to have |
| 23:21.55 | Antiarc | vhaarr: It matters in fights with threat reductions |
| 23:22.08 | Antiarc | Because it lets the healers know who's about to be tanking, rather than having to heal reactively. |
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| 23:23.00 | Antiarc | We've had the "threat meter" idea engrained in us pretty hardcore, because it's all we've ever used. I'm mostly just experimenting with different views, different representations of threat |
| 23:23.06 | Antiarc | Trying to see what works, what doesn't. |
| 23:23.22 | vhaarr | yeah, I'm just giving feedback |
| 23:23.25 | vhaarr | to me, it all seems useless |
| 23:23.26 | Antiarc | Stuff that's not used will be pulled out, but it's the right time to experiment, and the modules themselves are pretty trivial to write |
| 23:23.31 | Antiarc | Well, I do value the feedback |
| 23:23.42 | Cryect | I applaud your urge to experiment and innovate |
| 23:23.52 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 23:23.54 | vhaarr | if I didn't care, Antiarc |
| 23:23.57 | vhaarr | I would say -nothing- |
| 23:24.12 | Antiarc | Heh, well, thanks :) |
| 23:24.15 | Cryect | I will say though I'm not sure how useful is though, but would have to see it in action |
| 23:24.42 | Antiarc | My goal, really, is to find more useful displays for threat information, to help people stay alive in a variety of situations. |
| 23:24.55 | Antiarc | You can eyeball it off of the "classic" view in most cases |
| 23:25.20 | Antiarc | But I'm pretty sure it's not the most efficient panacea for every situation |
| 23:26.39 | vhaarr | I target the boss when I'm healing on a boss fight where there is one big target, when I'm assigned to 1 tank for trash or whatever, I usually have him targetted, and in all other situations, I don't have any target at all |
| 23:26.50 | vhaarr | which means that Omen "1" gives me everything I need at this point |
| 23:27.10 | vhaarr | when I aoe with lock, I never care about aggro, and noone should |
| 23:27.24 | vhaarr | in aoe situtations, it's mostly about nuking things down fast no matter the cost, and healers are aware of that |
| 23:27.27 | vhaarr | and will spam heal you anyway |
| 23:27.40 | Antiarc | Well, in a perfectly executed raid, I agree |
| 23:27.49 | Antiarc | But a perfectly executed raid doesn't need threat meters, either ;) |
| 23:28.10 | vhaarr | I never slack, so I can't speak for people who do |
| 23:28.12 | nymbia | jesus there's like 15 PTR patches |
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| 23:28.25 | Antiarc | For the AOEr whose healers are a little slow, or the healer who is raid healing in high-enemy situations, other threat displays may be useful |
| 23:28.41 | vhaarr | it might, but I doubt it |
| 23:29.04 | vhaarr | Antiarc: there are too many other things to focus on already instead of looking at the threat meter bars go up and down |
| 23:29.10 | mykx | vharr have you done hyjal trash before? 90% of it is aoed |
| 23:29.24 | vhaarr | Antiarc: in situations like that, just watching the screen in front of you and what the mobs are doing is the best thing to do |
| 23:29.28 | vhaarr | stand at max range |
| 23:29.35 | vhaarr | and if things turn your way, soulshatter |
| 23:29.59 | Antiarc | I agree it's mitigable |
| 23:30.08 | vhaarr | will Threat-2.0 be 100% accurate? |
| 23:30.09 | Antiarc | I'm just trying to find ways to make it easier in general |
| 23:30.13 | Antiarc | It'll be pretty close, yeah. |
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| 23:30.41 | vhaarr | okay, because as it is now, you can't really use Threat-1.0 as a trusted source anyway |
| 23:30.48 | aestil | Ellipsis: need lock for heroic mech, please come on. |
| 23:30.48 | Moralis | vhaar? |
| 23:30.58 | Moralis | mobnotes |
| 23:31.30 | Antiarc | Yeah, I know. |
| 23:31.30 | vhaarr | Moralis: that's not my nick, and typing it does not ping my screen |
| 23:31.30 | vhaarr | Moralis: use the tab key |
| 23:31.30 | Antiarc | Lots and lots of abnormalities. |
| 23:31.30 | Antiarc | Threat-2.0 is a LOT more solid. |
| 23:31.30 | Moralis | ok |
| 23:31.31 | vhaarr | Antiarc: yeah I'm not saying it's your fault, it's simply because we didn't have GUIDs before |
| 23:31.42 | Antiarc | Hehe, I know |
| 23:31.51 | Moralis | in mobnotes what about adding SetRaidIcon |
| 23:31.55 | Antiarc | It's a decent approximation but I know better than anyone that it's not 100% trustworthy |
| 23:32.16 | Ellipsis | [3:30:00 pm] <aestil> Ellipsis: need lock for heroic mech, please come on. << you have know idea how hot that sounds |
| 23:32.17 | vhaarr | but I can't really envision myself using Omen as a tool other than as a "hm, maybe I should relax a few seconds"-meter |
| 23:32.18 | Moralis | mouseover in combination with Ctrl or Alt |
| 23:32.25 | CIA-9 | 03zariel * r63340 10AmmoGnome/ (AmmoGnome.lua AmmoGnome.toc): |
| 23:32.25 | CIA-9 | AmmoGnome: |
| 23:32.26 | CIA-9 | - Fixed not finding current bag, assumes a default location of 4 |
| 23:32.26 | CIA-9 | - Added "/ag" to set default ammo or default to what ever is in your bag |
| 23:32.32 | vhaarr | Moralis: how do you envision that would work? |
| 23:32.41 | vhaarr | Moralis: mobnotes has no metadata |
| 23:32.44 | vhaarr | Moralis: only strings |
| 23:32.45 | aestil | transfer. |
| 23:33.08 | vhaarr | Moralis: get GnomeCharmer from the svn for raid target icon marking, or NeoTron's new addon, MagicMarker, although I haven't tried it |
| 23:33.15 | vhaarr | or ezIcons |
| 23:33.24 | Moralis | 1. parsing in notes first 2 words ""sheep , Moon" |
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| 23:33.31 | vhaarr | Moralis: not going to happen |
| 23:33.41 | vhaarr | but I have considered adding those as bit fields |
| 23:33.46 | vhaarr | which won't happen soon |
| 23:33.48 | Moralis | SetRaidTargetIcon("target", 5); -- Moon |
| 23:34.27 | Moralis | can we decide in the note itself to start an new line? |
| 23:34.43 | Moralis | Note: Immune: lalala |
| 23:34.49 | vhaarr | \n\n |
| 23:34.49 | Moralis | CC: bla bla bla |
| 23:34.55 | Antiarc | vhaarr: FWIW, all the inactive modes have a 0% CPU impact |
| 23:34.57 | Moralis | this works? |
| 23:35.09 | Antiarc | You just pay for a few kb of RAM, nothing else. |
| 23:35.19 | vhaarr | Antiarc: actually, my concern is UI bloat, not cpu/ram |
| 23:35.22 | Moralis | ok thnx |
| 23:35.25 | vhaarr | Antiarc: and addons are full of it |
| 23:35.31 | vhaarr | Omen1 as well |
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| 23:35.46 | Antiarc | Well, there are things like Assessment and Violation that do threat displays as well, which are perfectly good at them |
| 23:36.00 | Antiarc | So I figure that if you're going to run a standalone like Omen you may want some of the extras. |
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| 23:37.53 | vhaarr | Antiarc: that's not a fair assumption |
| 23:38.10 | doc^bla | is there something like myframe:SetTooltip("text."); ? |
| 23:38.21 | vhaarr | most people don't have a clue that Assessment and Violation or any other addon includes threat displays |
| 23:38.26 | Antiarc | Eh, given the average raider's UI loadout, I don't think it's -too- far off. |
| 23:38.31 | break19 | is the server goin nuts? |
| 23:39.22 | Cryect | As long as it can be disabled I see no reason why Omen 2 couldn't have additional functionality for displaying threat in different ways |
| 23:39.40 | Antiarc | I don't think that multiple display modes are really bloat in a threat meter. Adding something like, say, an aggro alert would be. |
| 23:39.40 | Cryect | I mean its not like he is talking about adding a damage meter to Omen :p |
| 23:39.50 | Antiarc | Because that's Banzai's job, not a threat meter's |
| 23:39.58 | Antiarc | Even though they're closely related |
| 23:42.50 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63341 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Optional/MainTank: Default to the warrior color for main tank health display in case UnitClass returns something weird. |
| 23:43.05 | Nandini | yup, the threat meter warns about impending aggro, and banzai warns about actual aggro, that makes sense |
| 23:43.31 | Antiarc | If I write an aggro alert mod, I'll call it Omen'd |
| 23:44.53 | Nandini | i see nothing wrong with making omen the most "deluxe and customizable" display of threat currently available |
| 23:45.05 | Nandini | that seems to fit right into its purpose to me |
| 23:45.30 | aestil | Antiarc: come tank heroic mech for me |
| 23:45.37 | Antiarc | Haha, with what? |
| 23:45.42 | Antiarc | I have a warrior in blues and a rogue |
| 23:45.51 | Antiarc | Neither of which is very suited to heroic mech tanking |
| 23:47.25 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r63342 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Talent.lua: LibDogTag-2.0: revert talent inspection changes that broke talent tags. |
| 23:48.23 | Nandini | i hadn't paid attention after the last PTR update, they added the US, EU, and KR PTRs all to the same realmlist |
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| 23:50.40 | Nandini | can't do a character copy from my US realm onto an EU or KR PTR tho, but i could create a new level 1 on the EU PTR and harass you guys now :) |
| 23:51.25 | doc^bla | don't think so, it's 1am^^ |
| 23:51.43 | Matrix110 | i wonder when you can write a € ingame.... |
| 23:52.08 | doc^bla | never, it's a $ game |
| 23:52.09 | Matrix110 | you can write chinese, russian, korean and all sort of crap but no damn € symbol |
| 23:52.41 | Matrix110 | and i think like every possible other currency symbol |
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| 23:52.53 | Matrix110 | even pound works... |
| 23:53.25 | doc^bla | but you can bug the chat nicely with € |
| 23:53.40 | Matrix110 | idd |
| 23:53.46 | Matrix110 | but thats only since 2.3 i think |
| 23:53.50 | Matrix110 | before nothing happened |
| 23:53.53 | Zicon | Okay, so what symbol is this inverted @ meant to represent? |
| 23:54.09 | exor|zzz | not at? |
| 23:54.14 | exor|zzz | :P |
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| 23:59.11 | Nandini | There are two new combat log events for the next test realm update: |
| 23:59.11 | Nandini | SPELL_SUMMON |
| 23:59.11 | Nandini | SPELL_CREATE |
| 23:59.11 | Nandini | These are sent with the guid and name of the creature or object that is created by a spell (along with who cast it, naturally) |
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