| 00:00.08 | Saiba_Samurai | The beauty of this mod is you can configure all these options |
| 00:00.12 | Xinhuan | "we'd expect that the over-representation of druids in 2v2 accounts somewhat for the underrepresentation of paladins, and probably also contributes to the mage 2v2 effect." |
| 00:00.17 | Saiba_Samurai | then when you have it set you just hit the same key over and over and it cycles through the icons |
| 00:00.17 | Xinhuan | wtf |
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| 00:00.45 | chiper | I thought you had to mouse over them all to set |
| 00:00.49 | xyu | Xinhuan blizzard doesn't play this game |
| 00:01.07 | Saiba_Samurai | Actually the mouseover isn't happening |
| 00:01.12 | Saiba_Samurai | But when I select a target it marks it |
| 00:01.33 | Saiba_Samurai | I have a key set that's supposed to mark the target when I press the key but it's marking them just by selecting them |
| 00:01.51 | Saiba_Samurai | And I want to turn off the auto-mark on "selection" |
| 00:02.13 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103773379&sid=1&pageNo=13#254 |
| 00:02.17 | Xinhuan | that's the 1850 rating chart |
| 00:02.22 | Xinhuan | the 8% one is for 2200 rating |
| 00:02.23 | Cryect | heh those blizzard numbers are interesting when you consider http://www.realmhistory.net/arena-statistics/class-breakdown.html |
| 00:03.18 | Cryect | there is 232 warriors but they are only 130% and druids are at 216 but at 276% :-p |
| 00:04.59 | chiper | makes me think realmhistory's data is wrong |
| 00:05.13 | chiper | or they're just using different selectors |
| 00:06.18 | Arrowmaster | "(although normalized for class popularity)" |
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| 00:06.21 | Nandini | that's because druids have a lower representation than warriors among all level 70 players |
| 00:06.24 | Arrowmaster | blizzards numbers are weird |
| 00:06.39 | Cryect | If they are normalized for class popularity then thats messed up |
| 00:06.54 | Cryect | you should be encouraging players to play your less popular classes to balance them out |
| 00:06.56 | chiper | I'm not sure what that means |
| 00:06.58 | Nandini | mages are hugely popular, but they appear not to do well in 2v2s for example |
| 00:07.35 | Arrowmaster | mages at 8.7% for the 2200+ 2v2 |
| 00:07.37 | Cryect | yeah they want ~195 mages approximately in 2v2's at 2200 |
| 00:07.45 | Cryect | which would be the most of any class |
| 00:08.02 | Cryect | They want druids it looks at ~78 which would be the lowest of any class |
| 00:08.27 | Arrowmaster | druids are one of the least played classes |
| 00:08.32 | Cryect | If they are normalizing by class populations then the numbers make sense |
| 00:08.35 | Nandini | it's not that they "want" that, it's that it would be "normal" if all classes could succeed equally in every size arena |
| 00:08.41 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63770 10NRT/ (NRT.lua embeds.xml libs/): NRT: Got rid of Babble-Class. |
| 00:09.25 | chiper | nandini: that's what I was thinking too. that isnt % of what bliz wants, it's percent of variation from the average number |
| 00:10.18 | Cryect | Surprised they care at all about 2v2 now it seems since they had previously said they would only balance for arena at 5v5 |
| 00:10.44 | Cryect | 2v2 just inherently broken as they already knew |
| 00:10.45 | Nandini | blizzard doesn't care about 2v2, players care about 2v2 and made a ruckus |
| 00:11.23 | Nandini | players feel left out when certain classes and specs dominate the 2v2 bracket |
| 00:11.34 | Nandini | just like players feel left out that they can't get t6 without doing t6 raids |
| 00:11.40 | Nandini | voila... new badge loot! |
| 00:12.18 | Cryect | but there is no way to fix that without making all classes basically the same thing but whatever this game sucks for PvP :-p |
| 00:12.37 | Nandini | it makes good business sense for blizzard to acknowledge and make an effort to respond to the self-perceived needs of the larger parts of their community |
| 00:12.55 | Nandini | s/community/customers |
| 00:12.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont understand how somemany people can play wow just for the pvp when its got the worst pvp of like any mmo |
| 00:13.27 | chiper | worst to you may be exciting to someone else |
| 00:13.28 | Nandini | i agree, there are 8 year old games that are built around pvp |
| 00:13.38 | Cryect | I guess some people like the unbalancing feel of PvP with gear |
| 00:14.05 | Cryect | I mean its okay for the occasional thing but huh at the people who only play it for PvP |
| 00:14.12 | chiper | Blizzards core objective with WoW is PvE. PvP comes second |
| 00:14.13 | Nandini | imagine how empowering and gratifying it can feel for those people, and how much others might envy that |
| 00:14.33 | chiper | Cryect: isnt that kind of the point of the TTR? |
| 00:14.57 | Nandini | chiper: as usual, blizzard has figured out a way to make money from it :) |
| 00:15.27 | chiper | they're charging extra for the TTR? |
| 00:15.52 | Nandini | not for the TTR, but for the actual live tourney realm, $20 gets you in the door |
| 00:15.56 | Cryect | well I know blizzard cares mainly about PvE. It just amuses me most people seem to mainly goto PvP because they can get purples from that easier and then those people who solely do PvP instead of in more PvP oriented games |
| 00:16.12 | chiper | oh weak |
| 00:16.35 | Cryect | yeah |
| 00:16.38 | chiper | I knew the actual tournament would have entry costs, but I didnt think there would be a charge just to play on the realm |
| 00:16.54 | aestil | what is the name of the global parent if i don't want to parent a panel to anything? |
| 00:16.55 | Yssaril | does an event get fired if a united gets Tapped by either myself or antother player? |
| 00:17.18 | Cryect | well most the time if blizzard has a cost involved its not to make money but discourage usage of the service |
| 00:17.21 | chiper | I'm very curious about trying out a balanced PvP enviroment, where it's player skill > gear |
| 00:17.24 | Nandini | yeah i think that's not a smart move either, now you'll have a mage/pally/shaman team who will pay $20 each and feel entitled to be balanced exactly to a warrior/hunter/druid team |
| 00:17.39 | Cryect | they are prolly afraid of people going there and getting bored of playing the game with "good" loot and quiting instead of hoping for the loot |
| 00:18.14 | Cryect | its good for limited amounts of time but if its always available would be a potential issue |
| 00:18.30 | chiper | I thought it was going to be like stock car racing, where the characters are all the same, it's just up to the players to prove their skill. much more of a deathmatch style |
| 00:18.56 | Nandini | everyone will be able to choose from the same selection of items i believe, even on the live realm |
| 00:19.01 | Tem|AFK | I just lost the game |
| 00:19.05 | Bruners | anyone who can tell me how i can get all theese textures? http://img.ipwn.se/WoWScrnShot_030708_010942.jpg |
| 00:19.06 | Yssaril | aestil: UIParent? |
| 00:19.20 | chiper | tem: didn't you hear? everyone won, the game is over |
| 00:19.29 | Dashkal | http://xkcd.com/391/ |
| 00:19.35 | Nandini | Bruners: Most of those textures are included in SharedMedia |
| 00:19.40 | WobWork | Bruners: SML? |
| 00:19.45 | chiper | hah, dash had a faster url finger than me |
| 00:19.50 | Nandini | not SML, SM i think |
| 00:19.53 | Bruners | http://img.ipwn.se/WoWScrnShot_030708_011203.jpg this is what i have |
| 00:20.01 | WobWork | I get confused nowadays =op |
| 00:20.02 | Bruners | and i have SML |
| 00:20.11 | Tem|AFK | chiper, that was just a hidden attempt to make lots of people lose. |
| 00:20.14 | Nandini | install an addon just called "SharedMedia" |
| 00:20.32 | chiper | you fail at being inconspicuous |
| 00:20.38 | Bruners | i have SharedMediaLib, LibSharedMedia-2.0/3.0 |
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| 00:20.41 | Nandini | it has a confusingly similar name, but it makes additional textures/fonts/sounds available through SharedMediaLib-(any version) |
| 00:20.57 | Cryect | SharedMedia not LSM |
| 00:21.22 | Nandini | should rename SharedMedia to MediaPack for LSM or something |
| 00:21.25 | Bruners | aha, the one without Lib |
| 00:21.42 | Nandini | yup the one you want is just called "SharedMedia" |
| 00:21.47 | Cryect | should also setup a media pack so it tries to load the textures into all 3 SharedMedia libraries |
| 00:22.07 | Nandini | i think elkano made some changes to try and make it do that |
| 00:22.16 | Nandini | and also updated the mymedia instructions to get it to work that way |
| 00:22.30 | Cryect | I thought the changes were just so it loads into LSM3 |
| 00:22.40 | Nandini | it should load into all 3 versions |
| 00:22.41 | Cryect | but the issue was if you have LSM2 installed LSM3 doesn't get them |
| 00:22.49 | Cryect | or something like that elsia was saying this morning |
| 00:22.57 | Nandini | obviating the need for SharedMedia, SharedMedia-2.0, SharedMedia-3.0 |
| 00:23.16 | Nandini | oh it's possible LSM2 is preventing them from getting to LSM3, i haven't actually tested |
| 00:23.51 | aestil | if I alt+f4, will it save my SV's? |
| 00:23.55 | Cryect | no |
| 00:23.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:24.10 | aestil | so if i just borked my eepanels, i'm ok? |
| 00:24.15 | aestil | if i alt+f4 |
| 00:24.18 | chiper | lol |
| 00:24.43 | Nandini | just turn off the power :P |
| 00:24.44 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: is there an event if something tapps my target before i do? |
| 00:25.04 | Arrowmaster | should be |
| 00:25.09 | Bruners | i always take a backup of my eepanels.lua before changing anythig :P |
| 00:25.59 | Bruners | risky business playing with it |
| 00:29.31 | ausmara | Xinhuan, Ping. |
| 00:29.35 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 00:30.18 | syeren | If you could add an option to make GatherMate only display nodes you can do at the time automatically, that would be awesome :p |
| 00:30.24 | syeren | Don't know if it's possible though. |
| 00:30.40 | Xinhuan | can you elaborate what you mean by "only display nodes you can do at the time" |
| 00:31.18 | Diao | skill level? |
| 00:31.19 | syeren | Well at the moment I'm skill 147 in mining and 143 in herbs :p |
| 00:31.26 | syeren | Leveling it on my 70 :< |
| 00:31.41 | Xinhuan | answer: not planning to add skill level data |
| 00:31.53 | Xinhuan | and then having to scan your skill level everytime |
| 00:32.18 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: would it be possible for an external module to do that? |
| 00:32.36 | Xinhuan | possibly |
| 00:32.39 | chiper | yeah, that's something I would be keen on |
| 00:33.09 | Xinhuan | an external addon or module attachment can certainly modify the show/hide filters |
| 00:33.18 | Xinhuan | and then tell gathermate to update its icons |
| 00:34.49 | Xinhuan | but skilling up isn't something you do everyday, so something like that isn't going to be in the core |
| 00:35.11 | Xinhuan | you can just manually go and hide all the stuff in the filters you don't want to see until you can actually mine it |
| 00:35.29 | chiper | god damnit, my nose is bleeding. fucking santa anas |
| 00:35.58 | Dashkal | ok, that sounds like something from the website I've been lurking today... (overheard in NY) |
| 00:36.15 | chiper | heh |
| 00:37.24 | chiper | it's a southern california weather condition. pressure cells over the deserts to the east cause hot dry air to get pushed westward. causes the humidity to plumit |
| 00:37.35 | chiper | frizzy hair and cracked skin abound |
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| 00:38.34 | chiper | think I'll setup the vaporizer when I get home |
| 00:39.32 | ckknight | Kemayo: what's your quest addon? |
| 00:39.36 | aestil | i'm done with eepanels. hopefully kgpanels doesn't suck. |
| 00:39.44 | aestil | [i don't think it will] |
| 00:39.59 | Dashkal | chiper: ahh ok, that makes it make so much better sense :p |
| 00:40.07 | Dashkal | cause it looked like a typo... |
| 00:40.57 | chiper | lol |
| 00:42.15 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm hitting a strange bug here with two separate addons, they both register for GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE and the _first_ thing they do in the event handler is to unregister that event, and then AceEvent-2.0 says "Cannot unregister event 'GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE', 'Addon' is not registered with it." |
| 00:42.34 | vhaarr | ckknight: so I added a debug print before the unregister call, and the handler is invoked twice |
| 00:42.37 | ckknight | that is odd |
| 00:42.39 | vhaarr | which makes no sense |
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| 00:43.18 | vhaarr | this first happened in one addon, so I simply added a :IsEventRegistered check and forgot about it |
| 00:43.22 | vhaarr | an hour or so agop |
| 00:43.27 | vhaarr | but now it happened in another one |
| 00:43.33 | vhaarr | same event |
| 00:44.08 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r63771 10aX_RaidStatus/RaidStatusCore.lua: |
| 00:44.08 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 00:44.08 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Possible nil bug. |
| 00:44.47 | aestil | how does aloft use 1.4 mb of memor, and i havn't even seen a nameplate yet? |
| 00:44.59 | Arrowmaster | your running embeded? |
| 00:45.40 | Diao | probably not, i have nameplates off with externals and aloft and it uses a ton of mem |
| 00:47.25 | Kemayo | ckknight: I've been playing with something I'm provisionally calling BetterQuestTracker over in branches. |
| 00:47.33 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:47.48 | ckknight | fair enough, then |
| 00:48.06 | Kemayo | ckknight: Right now it's the tooltip bit of QuestsFu, but a bit more on the configurable side. |
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| 00:49.47 | Kemayo | Hey, whatever floats your boat, man, I won't judge you. |
| 00:53.17 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r63772 10aX_RaidStatus/RaidStatusCore.lua: |
| 00:53.17 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 00:53.17 | CIA-9 | - Fix: TalentTest functions. If you have a problem with talent detection, |
| 00:53.17 | CIA-9 | please do: /script _G.AXRS:TalentTestOne(name) where name is the player that is |
| 00:53.17 | CIA-9 | having the problem. Then report what it returns along with class, exact |
| 00:53.19 | CIA-9 | spec(points spent where, just number of points, not exact point allocation) to |
| 00:53.23 | CIA-9 | Apoco |
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| 00:55.39 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63773 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua type/Symphony.lua): |
| 00:55.39 | CIA-9 | BananaDKP: |
| 00:55.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.08 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63774 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Work around a strange bug. |
| 01:08.25 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63775 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:08.25 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:08.25 | CIA-9 | - Fixed error messages for missing translations/typos |
| 01:08.25 | CIA-9 | - Fixed colouring issues |
| 01:10.55 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63776 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 01:10.55 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:10.55 | CIA-9 | - Quick fix for something that needed fixing I assume |
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| 01:22.36 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r63777 10Recount2/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:22.36 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 01:22.36 | CIA-9 | -Finishes up Vertical Scrollbar |
| 01:22.36 | CIA-9 | -Fixes up a few scrollbar issues |
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| 01:24.16 | Poul|Raider1 | whats up with MS SQL 2005, triggers dont have the "FOR EACH ROW" to use |
| 01:24.43 | Nandini | you have to use a cursor with the temporary sets i believe |
| 01:25.09 | Nandini | with the "inserted" or "updated" or "deleted" tables |
| 01:25.39 | Poul|Raider1 | AFTER INSERT AS |
| 01:25.40 | Poul|Raider1 | UPDATE borked.Topics SET ReplyCount = ReplyCount + 1 |
| 01:25.54 | Poul|Raider1 | that would only work per statement iguess |
| 01:26.33 | Poul|Raider1 | so if a insert of more then one row is executed it would only increase hte replycount with 1 right? |
| 01:27.02 | Poul|Raider1 | and reading the msdn i just cant figure out to make it work with multiply rows also |
| 01:27.08 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63778 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Fix the help command and some cleanup. |
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| 01:37.47 | kergoth | NeoTron: noticed that.. havent really seen it bite anything other than magicmarker though.. its annoying as hell when it happens though :) |
| 01:37.55 | kergoth | NeoTron: report it to narg? |
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| 01:54.20 | Bruners | what was the command to make your character standup if i spell need it? |
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| 01:59.17 | WobWork | Bruners: isn't that done automatically now? |
| 01:59.39 | Bruners | there was some patch where you could turn it off |
| 01:59.56 | Bruners | and i did that :P |
| 02:00.00 | WobWork | pft |
| 02:00.03 | WobWork | live with it then =) |
| 02:00.05 | Bruners | now i want it back :) |
| 02:00.08 | WobWork | or use /stand |
| 02:00.46 | Xinhuan | go read the patch notes |
| 02:00.51 | Xinhuan | the command is in it |
| 02:00.58 | Xinhuan | to turn it off or on |
| 02:01.01 | Xinhuan | 0 == off, 1 == on |
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| 02:03.22 | Bruners | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.24 | Yssaril | what do you guys think (about them round unit frames) almost got everything layed out the way i want :) |
| 02:04.26 | Yssaril | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2898/wowscrnshot030608200209ln4.jpg |
| 02:04.39 | Xinhuan | i think you care too much :0 |
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| 02:05.05 | kenlyric | I can go anywhere |
| 02:05.06 | vhaarr | Yssaril: haha that rocks |
| 02:05.06 | Xinhuan | that being said, what do those 4 circular bars mean? |
| 02:05.24 | kenlyric | have a look |
| 02:05.24 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: hp/power of you+pet and target/tot? |
| 02:05.26 | kenlyric | it's in a book |
| 02:05.27 | Bruners | i like them square |
| 02:05.38 | Yssaril | vhaarr: yes sir |
| 02:06.14 | Xinhuan | well it looks kinda redundant |
| 02:06.18 | Yssaril | Bruners: have been staring at square once forever now :P |
| 02:06.21 | Xinhuan | given that the information is already in the unit frames |
| 02:06.27 | Xinhuan | then its duplicated in the hud |
| 02:06.38 | vhaarr | who said it's a hud |
| 02:06.43 | vhaarr | he said they are unit frames |
| 02:06.56 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: the square once are just for testing :P so i know my code corrosbonds to what its supposed to do :) |
| 02:07.01 | Xinhuan | nevertheless, its duplicated ;p |
| 02:07.17 | Yssaril | once i am done the square once will go byebye :P |
| 02:07.21 | Xinhuan | don't ask for comments if it isn't the final product! :) |
| 02:07.46 | Xinhuan | but hey, i do think they are sorta cute |
| 02:07.47 | Yssaril | bah dont want to be done and then find out i have to redo everything cause i was stupid :P |
| 02:07.53 | Xinhuan | and goes well with cycircled hehe |
| 02:08.17 | Xinhuan | add kitty ears to that unitframe and you can have a true hello kitty ui |
| 02:08.18 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 02:08.27 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 02:09.01 | Xinhuan | what does the small "3" means? |
| 02:09.05 | Yssaril | lvl |
| 02:09.15 | Bruners | http://ui.ipwn.se/i/173.jpg <- better :P |
| 02:09.49 | Yssaril | to many squares for my taste Bruners |
| 02:09.49 | Xinhuan | where are the buffs/debuffs going to be shown in relation? |
| 02:10.09 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: good question :P |
| 02:10.38 | Xinhuan | and whats that semicircular space in the middle going to be used for, if anything? |
| 02:10.43 | Yssaril | was thinking of only showing debuffs i can apply on the target frame |
| 02:10.57 | Xinhuan | that's not very good |
| 02:11.04 | Xinhuan | in a raid setting, you want to see what debuffs is on the enemy |
| 02:11.06 | Xinhuan | such as sheep |
| 02:11.16 | Xinhuan | (say in arena setting) |
| 02:11.34 | Xinhuan | or stuff that you can dispel |
| 02:11.38 | Bruners | aye, did illidan today without debuffs showing |
| 02:12.07 | Xinhuan | for some classes, its ok, but not for the other classes |
| 02:12.20 | Xinhuan | think a rogue can care less about debuffs ;p |
| 02:12.25 | Bruners | still good to see debuffs |
| 02:12.31 | Xinhuan | as long as he doesn't break CC hehe |
| 02:13.05 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: good point about the CC thing |
| 02:13.25 | Xinhuan | generally, you want to show BOTH target buffs and debuffs |
| 02:13.48 | Yssaril | maybe i will use a simple indicator that its CC'ed instead of which CC specifically |
| 02:13.50 | Bruners | why do you want to see buffs on the target? |
| 02:13.59 | Xinhuan | offensive dispel (again, arena setting) |
| 02:14.14 | Xinhuan | HEY that guy has heroism!!! |
| 02:14.15 | Bruners | filter to things you can dispell/cast |
| 02:14.16 | Xinhuan | dispel it! |
| 02:14.30 | Yssaril | Bruners: dispell spell steal or hold your dps if the mob is fire vulnerable if yoru a fire mage :P |
| 02:14.41 | Xinhuan | well pretty much, if you're a priest or a shaman, every enemy buff is dispellable |
| 02:14.46 | Xinhuan | i.e you need to show them all |
| 02:14.57 | Xinhuan | also, being able to see enemy buffs can tell you what classes your enemy team is |
| 02:15.02 | Xinhuan | if you see MOTW on their buff list |
| 02:15.07 | Xinhuan | you know there is a druid stealthed |
| 02:15.12 | Xinhuan | obvious things like that |
| 02:15.18 | Bruners | true |
| 02:15.41 | Xinhuan | limiting the display isn't really as useful as you might think it is |
| 02:16.00 | Yssaril | i see that now /sigh |
| 02:16.40 | Yssaril | filetering debuffs to my spells and CC's should be fine though id imagine |
| 02:16.48 | Yssaril | *filtering |
| 02:17.11 | Xinhuan | really depends, in an arena setting, i would want to see everything |
| 02:17.35 | Xinhuan | if a target is already CCed say by Blind, i dont' want to CC cyclone it |
| 02:17.43 | Xinhuan | it'll just be a waste |
| 02:18.13 | Bruners | i liked my idea with having talent spec next to class in the frame |
| 02:18.15 | Xinhuan | everything is important |
| 02:18.24 | Xinhuan | for eg, a mage's improved Counterspell debuff |
| 02:18.27 | Xinhuan | lasts 4 secs |
| 02:18.35 | Xinhuan | seeing it on your focus target |
| 02:18.46 | Xinhuan | you can know when to predict the next heal is coming |
| 02:18.50 | Xinhuan | even if you're not the mage |
| 02:19.00 | Xinhuan | you can then order your pet, say felguard to intercept the next heal |
| 02:19.23 | Xinhuan | or Curse of Tongues |
| 02:19.25 | Yssaril | bax buff/debuff is 40 right? |
| 02:19.30 | Yssaril | *max |
| 02:19.36 | Xinhuan | think its 40 |
| 02:19.40 | Bruners | yep |
| 02:19.46 | Bruners | i have limited my view to 25 tho |
| 02:20.19 | Bruners | enough for most cases |
| 02:20.26 | Xinhuan | filtering is cool and all, but there should be an option to show everything at least ;p |
| 02:21.30 | Yssaril | Bruners: btw i like circles :P http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7441/circlesci0.jpg |
| 02:22.03 | Xinhuan | the drdamage numbers kinds of ruins it imo |
| 02:22.22 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 02:24.22 | Diao | lol @ blackrock horde trade chat |
| 02:24.55 | Diao | people spamming slabs to get others with the mod "There's no S in Shadow Labyrinth" to reply |
| 02:27.28 | Xinhuan | better than the 350 Thunderfury links i see everyday |
| 02:27.57 | Bruners | hehe |
| 02:29.39 | Xinhuan | so what does "LFM MT" mean? |
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| 02:30.02 | Gagorian | Looking For More Mana Tombs? |
| 02:30.16 | Xinhuan | maybe its magister's terrace |
| 02:30.22 | Xinhuan | maybe its main tank |
| 02:30.38 | Gagorian | Well depends where it is yes |
| 02:30.53 | Gagorian | If it's low level then it's mana tombs, if it's ptr it's magisters terrace |
| 02:30.59 | Bruners | looking for more main tank? |
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| 02:31.11 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 02:31.15 | Xinhuan | you could have a group of 4 |
| 02:31.18 | Xinhuan | and need a tank as the 5th |
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| 02:31.40 | Bruners | they you would type LF tank to MT |
| 02:31.50 | Xinhuan | some people are stupid |
| 02:31.52 | Gagorian | Well, 5 man groups shouldn't call their tank MT? |
| 02:31.57 | Gagorian | Either |
| 02:32.04 | Gagorian | But true, some people are stupid |
| 02:32.16 | Yssaril | they pugging a raid and need an MT? |
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| 02:32.24 | Xinhuan | like the "LFG 3v3 arena, 1800 rating priest" |
| 02:32.32 | Xinhuan | then on inspection, you'll see his rating is 1751 |
| 02:32.35 | Xinhuan | and someone remarked |
| 02:32.38 | Xinhuan | "rounded up much?" |
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| 02:32.56 | Xinhuan | i giggled |
| 02:33.36 | Bruners | 1 of 10 people understand how the !enchant thingie works |
| 02:33.39 | Bruners | or !craft |
| 02:34.10 | Bruners | and when they do understand it they type it completly wrong |
| 02:34.12 | Xinhuan | my whole server understands how it works hehe |
| 02:34.19 | Xinhuan | because everyone advertises that way |
| 02:34.25 | Xinhuan | PM ME !enchant to see my enchants! |
| 02:34.29 | Xinhuan | and even gives examples |
| 02:34.45 | Bruners | i send the example text to them |
| 02:34.55 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63779 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Stop sending addon messages if we are running in client mode and the host is offline. |
| 02:34.55 | Bruners | still no luck |
| 02:35.07 | Bruners | and even if i explain it further they never seem to get it |
| 02:35.13 | Xinhuan | i ignore those |
| 02:35.33 | Bruners | yeah, most of them dont even want to pay for the mats |
| 02:35.48 | Xinhuan | i go like "if you can't understand simple english, type "!enchant 25 agi", then go away" |
| 02:35.50 | Xinhuan | ;p |
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| 02:36.09 | Xinhuan | then they type "enchant 25 agi" |
| 02:36.14 | Xinhuan | and say "doesn't work" |
| 02:36.38 | Bruners | or !exhant 25 ari |
| 02:36.57 | Chompers | has anyone tried the acid3 test with IE? |
| 02:37.06 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 02:37.18 | Bruners | why test anything with IE ? |
| 02:37.21 | Xinhuan | whats the punchline? |
| 02:37.38 | Xinhuan | "it runs (away) 0.8% daster than Firefox beta 3"? |
| 02:37.42 | Xinhuan | faster* |
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| 02:38.26 | Chompers | oh god why did i run that test on ie |
| 02:38.39 | Chaud | IE loves you. |
| 02:38.49 | Yssaril | rofl IE kinda blows that test to hell :P |
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| 02:39.03 | Chompers | its like it was sick in the top corner of my screen ;/ |
| 02:39.06 | Yssaril | firefox only gets a 59/100 /cry |
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| 02:42.01 | Xinhuan | lol my firefox got a 50/100 |
| 02:42.44 | Bruners | 46/100 with opera |
| 02:43.27 | Chaud | =( is there any way to achieve decent transparency in windows XP, I want the background of the window transparent, but the text to stay normal so it is easy to read |
| 02:43.49 | Bruners | not really |
| 02:44.05 | Xinhuan | i don't think software is that smart |
| 02:44.22 | Xinhuan | unless specifically coded that way |
| 02:44.32 | Arrowmaster | windows cant do that kinda transparency i dont think |
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| 02:46.08 | Chaud | .../wrists |
| 02:46.08 | Bruners | this enchant dont exist |
| 02:46.50 | Chaud | Linux does it exactly as I want lol... http://tredosoft.com/files/pictures/e17screen.png |
| 02:47.07 | chiper | ahahaha, I just found Rule34 of the esurance chick |
| 02:47.25 | Dashkal | Chaud: That's not linux, that's eterm :p And I think someone ported something similar to windows awhile back |
| 02:47.46 | Bruners | http://www.abstractpath.com/powermenu/ |
| 02:47.56 | Dashkal | if I'm not mistaken it isn't even transparency. it's eterm pasting the desktop behind the text (looks funky when you have overlapping windows) |
| 02:48.07 | Chaud | Bah |
| 02:48.19 | Chaud | http://tredosoft.com/files/pictures/directfb.png better? |
| 02:48.30 | Dashkal | though e17 might do it for real, haven't looked into 17 |
| 02:49.04 | Dashkal | full transparency |
| 02:49.13 | Dashkal | the letters are blending with the background as well |
| 02:49.36 | Chaud | You are hard to please =( |
| 02:49.39 | Dashkal | :p |
| 02:49.45 | Dashkal | I have the same desire |
| 02:50.08 | Dashkal | lightstep came close, but was a touch unstable |
| 02:50.14 | Dashkal | maybe kde4 will pull it off |
| 02:50.25 | Dashkal | gotta wait for the windows port to be sure, though |
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| 02:51.15 | Dashkal | this should be fun. Today I make myself learn rock (had a good look at ace3, time to meet the "competition") |
| 02:51.52 | Bruners | http://cprogramming.hu/transputty/ |
| 02:52.26 | Chaud | Ghetto version of doing it I guess =p |
| 02:52.36 | Dashkal | heh, same trick |
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| 02:52.47 | Dashkal | someone should port putty to do it :p (someone other than me, windows + c = eww) |
| 02:52.59 | Dashkal | like true transparency except text |
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| 02:54.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah all the nix terminal programs that have transparence where the text stays the same and the background goes transparent its because the program is coded for it not the window manager |
| 02:54.33 | zapl|away | could any sharedmedia dev check http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11581/ (scripted mymedia.lua generation)? Not sure about the .toc and the .lua (see screenshot) |
| 02:54.36 | NimbleRabit | Anyone here ever use the communications addon from DoTimer? |
| 02:56.35 | Chaud | This looks decent, http://www.digitalbackcountry.com/images/blog/apollo/transparency_test_big.png |
| 02:57.26 | Dashkal | Sweet, that looks exactly right |
| 02:57.34 | Dashkal | (assuming it isn't cheating with the wallpaper trick) |
| 02:58.21 | Chaud | from http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=75 |
| 02:59.17 | Dashkal | lol, complete with mac elietism in the comments :p |
| 03:02.59 | Chaud | Right now all I have is fail transparency |
| 03:03.04 | Chaud | http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7448/deskfailkw4.jpg |
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| 03:04.45 | Bruners | http://www.mircscripts.org/comments.php?cid=2721 testet that out? |
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| 03:05.05 | Dashkal | what are you using to skin your desktop? |
| 03:05.09 | xyu | does tranquil air stack w/ salv? |
| 03:05.42 | Chaud | Just a regular windows theme |
| 03:06.19 | Chaud | its actually on my desktop, Knorr Smooth Mod =p |
| 03:07.26 | Arrowmaster | xyu: yes |
| 03:07.51 | Dashkal | that reminds me... I should really get a "real" irc client... chatzilla is a lil bare. The problem is I'd really like to have something nice and consistent between winblows and ubuntu |
| 03:08.02 | Chaud | xchat? |
| 03:08.13 | Dashkal | thought the windows port was for-pay |
| 03:08.40 | Chaud | Nope... |
| 03:09.14 | Bruners | http://img.ipwn.se/Clip2.jpg |
| 03:09.21 | Dashkal | hmm, wonder which one it was that did that... |
| 03:09.36 | Arrowmaster | xchat is for pay for windows |
| 03:09.36 | Chaud | that the ghetto putty mod lol? |
| 03:09.39 | Dashkal | nope, it's xchat |
| 03:09.45 | Dashkal | hell with that noise |
| 03:09.51 | Bruners | nope, powermenu with 10% opaque |
| 03:09.52 | zapl|away | http://www.psyon.org/projects/xchat-win32/ is free |
| 03:10.27 | Chaud | there are several free xchats for windows I think? |
| 03:10.56 | Dashkal | probably... meh, I could also just learn javascript (been avoiding it for years) and code in the missing features to chatzilla |
| 03:10.59 | Arrowmaster | wtb irssi gui |
| 03:11.17 | Dashkal | or run a screen'd bitchX on my server box :p |
| 03:11.45 | Arrowmaster | eww bitchX |
| 03:11.50 | Arrowmaster | irssi > bitchx |
| 03:12.01 | Dashkal | I used to be quite good with it. But that was back when I was lead coder for a smaug mud |
| 03:12.10 | Dashkal | Never used irssi so can't comment |
| 03:12.15 | Dashkal | bx did the job I needed |
| 03:12.49 | Bruners | never tried bx |
| 03:12.58 | Bruners | but im guessing they quite alike |
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| 03:13.08 | Dashkal | it had a hell of a learning curve, but the other people on that mud used it so I had support |
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| 03:13.56 | Chaud | So that random dll |
| 03:14.01 | Chaud | just makes the window disappear |
| 03:16.09 | Dashkal | Style question: Nexus sits right on the line between addon and library. It's an engine that supports front-ends that operate atop of it. It is, however, perfectly capable of functioning without a frontend of any kind (in which case it would act as a simple relay). So... LibNexus or no? |
| 03:16.49 | WobWork | Dashkal: hehe SMAUG |
| 03:16.55 | WobWork | I remember that codebase |
| 03:17.01 | Dashkal | It was... interesting |
| 03:17.08 | WobWork | I preferred LPC |
| 03:17.19 | Dashkal | I poked at someting related to LPC for awhile... |
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| 03:17.37 | WobWork | Once I started coding on Discworld, the basis for LPMUD I never looked back |
| 03:17.38 | Dashkal | can't remember the actual codebase but the c code was just a glorified interpreter with sockets. the mud was in "mudc" |
| 03:17.51 | NimbleRabit | Dashkal, xchat for windows was pay for a short period of time. It's not anymore though. |
| 03:18.06 | Dashkal | NimbleRabit: the website as of today says it's still for pay (the official port, that is) |
| 03:18.21 | Chaud | So don't use the official one =p |
| 03:18.27 | Dashkal | heh |
| 03:18.32 | NimbleRabit | oh my bad |
| 03:18.39 | NimbleRabit | I just downloaded it like 2 days ago |
| 03:18.41 | Dashkal | the only thing I need that I miss, really, is proper hilights |
| 03:18.47 | NimbleRabit | and didn't even notice that it was for pay lol |
| 03:18.54 | Dashkal | I'd love to get an alert on "Nexus" as well as my name |
| 03:18.55 | NimbleRabit | must have went to an unofficial site |
| 03:19.26 | Chaud | 30 day shareware lol |
| 03:19.42 | NimbleRabit | just get x-chat 2 for windows, first google link if you search for "xchat" |
| 03:19.54 | NimbleRabit | that's what I'm using right now and it supports extra highlighting dashkal |
| 03:20.04 | Dashkal | *peeks* |
| 03:20.09 | Dashkal | how close is the UI to the linux ver? |
| 03:20.43 | WobWork | fairly close |
| 03:20.57 | Dashkal | good enough. *bookmarks* I'll look into it |
| 03:21.01 | Dashkal | thank you |
| 03:21.01 | WobWork | I think there are a few more features in windows one |
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| 03:21.31 | Dashkal | certainly looks to be worth a look |
| 03:22.08 | Arrowmaster | last time i tried xchat for windows i hated it |
| 03:22.21 | Arrowmaster | didnt seem very configurable |
| 03:22.24 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: using chatzilla... the bar is pretty low |
| 03:22.43 | Chaud | someone in mmoc IRC pointed out this nonamescript for mirc |
| 03:22.47 | Chaud | it is pretty nice |
| 03:23.06 | Arrowmaster | ive been using mirc for 7 years |
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| 03:23.25 | Dashkal | I used mirc back once upon a time. I might look at it again now that I can afford to go legit |
| 03:23.39 | Dashkal | 15 year old doesn't have the CC to get it legitimately :p |
| 03:23.51 | Dashkal | 26 year old is another matter |
| 03:24.06 | MentalPower|Sick | I still would not use mIRC |
| 03:24.11 | Arrowmaster | you dont have to pay for mirc, just have to deal with the nag screen |
| 03:24.12 | MentalPower|Sick | I like ChatZilla way too much |
| 03:24.15 | WobWork | people pay for mIRC? |
| 03:24.17 | Chaud | I don't pay for anything if I don't have to |
| 03:24.25 | Dashkal | MentalPower|Sick: any way to get proper highlighting? |
| 03:24.27 | WobWork | I remember an onion article about that =P |
| 03:24.28 | Chaud | Only software I have ever paid for myself is WoW |
| 03:24.35 | MentalPower|Sick | Dashkal: meaning? |
| 03:24.56 | Dashkal | I'd like to get the highlight, grey background, ding bit for arbratraty strings or patterns |
| 03:25.02 | Dashkal | not just my name |
| 03:25.12 | MentalPower|Sick | you can set custom stalk words |
| 03:25.21 | MentalPower|Sick | that will ding you whenever thy are said |
| 03:25.33 | Dashkal | thank you... |
| 03:25.36 | MentalPower|Sick | dunno about regex |
| 03:25.44 | Dashkal | I completely missed that feature |
| 03:25.47 | MentalPower|Sick | haven't tried regex |
| 03:25.49 | Dashkal | I blame poor option UI design |
| 03:25.55 | Xinhuan | mirc can do that ;p but it doesn't use regexes for it |
| 03:26.10 | Arrowmaster | mirc can do regex for highlights |
| 03:26.15 | Dashkal | I don't really need regex. just nice to have |
| 03:26.25 | Xinhuan | its not true regexes |
| 03:26.28 | Dashkal | someone say Nexus :p |
| 03:26.29 | Chaud | How do you do so in mirc ? |
| 03:26.33 | Xinhuan | its more like DOS wildcards |
| 03:26.39 | Chaud | Nexus is awful |
| 03:26.41 | Dashkal | lol |
| 03:26.44 | Dashkal | perfect |
| 03:26.49 | Xinhuan | read the mirc helpful |
| 03:26.52 | Xinhuan | for Highlighting |
| 03:26.56 | Xinhuan | help file |
| 03:27.00 | Xinhuan | its in there |
| 03:27.01 | Arrowmaster | theres a checkbox in mirc for regex highlighting |
| 03:27.08 | Dashkal | the only other feature I missed form mirc was the lil red line when you alt-tab.... I made due with a /bar macro so good enough |
| 03:27.17 | Chaud | nonamescript has that |
| 03:27.24 | Xinhuan | that is ctrl+L |
| 03:27.24 | Chaud | but it is grey =p |
| 03:27.28 | Xinhuan | by default in mirc |
| 03:27.36 | Arrowmaster | everything is in default mirc |
| 03:27.39 | Chaud | 0o, it is in by default? |
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| 03:27.41 | MentalPower|Sick | ./bar? |
| 03:27.43 | Chaud | I am bad |
| 03:27.46 | Arrowmaster | those script packs add nothing at all |
| 03:27.56 | Chaud | lies! |
| 03:28.01 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:28.13 | Dashkal | just puts a line on the screen I can easily scroll back to |
| 03:28.17 | Dashkal | so /bar before tabbing away |
| 03:28.38 | Xinhuan | /bar is probably just some stupid shortcut alias for ctrl+L that some "script pack" added |
| 03:28.50 | NimbleRabit | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.54 | NimbleRabit | because chatzilla doesn't have the feature |
| 03:28.59 | Dashkal | wait, I said /bar, that's my hack to replace the ctrl-L :p |
| 03:29.04 | Dashkal | yeah |
| 03:29.23 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 03:29.29 | Chaud | Default IRC lacks random trash things like... |
| 03:29.29 | Dashkal | sweet, stalk worlds and /bar. enough to make cz "Good Enough" |
| 03:29.36 | Chaud | 02(C:02) Local Fixed Disk (Free: 51.06GB(43.6%)/117.08GB, NTFS, label: unknown) 02(D:02) Local Fixed Disk (Free: 37.32GB(32.6%)/114.5GB, NTFS, label: unknown) 02(E:02) Local Fixed Disk (Free: 14.07GB(44%)/31.97GB, NTFS, label: Backup) 02(F:02) CD-ROM Disc (No disc) 02(G:02) CD-ROM Disc (Free: 0B(0%)/1.48GB, CDFS, label: ACCOMPANYING_DVD) |
| 03:29.36 | Chaud | 02(HD drives02) 263GB total space, 102GB(38.9%) free |
| 03:29.42 | Chaud | What would I do without that! |
| 03:29.43 | Dashkal | oh god those things |
| 03:29.44 | NimbleRabit | xchat does the bar thing on alt tab or changing window |
| 03:30.07 | Xinhuan | you can easily download "addons |
| 03:30.11 | Xinhuan | to mirc for those ;p |
| 03:30.16 | Arrowmaster | diskcapacity[C:\ (17.51GB Free, 149.04GB Total), F:\ (20.83GB Free, 232.88GB Total), G:\ (7.41GB Free, 232.88GB Total), K:\ (47.69GB Free, 465.76GB Total), L:\ (7.56GB Free, 465.76GB Total), Total (101.01GB Free, 1.51TB Total)] |
| 03:30.20 | Dashkal | oh man sudden memory: I tried, but sadly failed, to make an IRC->SMAUG bridge bot |
| 03:30.22 | Arrowmaster | thats why you write your own scripts |
| 03:30.35 | Chaud | Far too lazy |
| 03:30.49 | NimbleRabit | Arrowmaster, holy crap that's a lot of space |
| 03:30.51 | Dashkal | could never get DCC to work in perl (my pet language of the time) |
| 03:31.04 | Dashkal | erm? I have half a terabyte |
| 03:31.12 | Dashkal | ahh, other drives, nevermind :p |
| 03:31.15 | Dashkal | wow |
| 03:31.18 | NimbleRabit | Total (101.01GB Free, 1.51TB Total |
| 03:31.21 | Chaud | Needs a nerf =\ |
| 03:31.36 | Arrowmaster | need more drives |
| 03:31.41 | Dashkal | I have about that much grand total between all drives in this house... but at most 3/4 in one PC |
| 03:31.50 | Arrowmaster | this case is full |
| 03:32.13 | Chaud | Make a file server out of an old box? |
| 03:32.16 | NimbleRabit | Yeah I probably have about that much between all my computers, but that's still a lot for one computer |
| 03:32.23 | magma | oooh, is it time for everyone to spam their sysinfo scripts? |
| 03:32.23 | Dashkal | agreed |
| 03:32.23 | Arrowmaster | so full of drives that i made my own harddrive cage from stealtec parts |
| 03:32.25 | Dashkal | nice :D |
| 03:32.26 | magma | os[Linux 2.6.23-gentoo-r8-evolve x86_64] distro[Gentoo Linux (stable)] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.93GHz] mem[Physical: 1.0GB/2.0GB free] disk[Total: 177.5GB/623.0GB free] video[nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] |
| 03:32.54 | Dashkal | Gentoo... brave |
| 03:33.00 | NimbleRabit | that computer is far too good to use linux |
| 03:33.10 | magma | lolwut? |
| 03:33.27 | Chaud | Run windows and play games =p |
| 03:33.31 | NimbleRabit | I mean I'm assuming it's a gaming computer |
| 03:33.36 | Chaud | Or dual boot anyway =\ |
| 03:33.36 | Dashkal | Give me gentoo with a precompilied repos and I'd love it... Compiling openoffice and kde... fail |
| 03:33.41 | magma | or I could run linux and play games |
| 03:33.41 | WobWork | pft |
| 03:33.43 | WobWork | Mine's like that |
| 03:33.45 | Arrowmaster | ive always prefered linux for my nix boxes |
| 03:33.49 | WobWork | and I run linux |
| 03:33.53 | NeoTron | so I'm thinking auto-marking, for example, could be a per-zone option |
| 03:34.00 | NeoTron | i.e I like having it in Hyjal but not in BT |
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| 03:34.08 | magma | WoW runs quite well in linux |
| 03:34.10 | Arrowmaster | er debian for my nix boxes |
| 03:34.14 | NimbleRabit | yeah WoW does |
| 03:34.19 | Dashkal | magma: cedega, winex, vanillia, crossover? |
| 03:34.20 | NimbleRabit | but lots of games don't lol |
| 03:34.23 | Arrowmaster | i need to stop alt-tabing back to boss fight |
| 03:34.25 | Dashkal | cause I still have epic fail when I try |
| 03:34.25 | WobWork | wine |
| 03:34.26 | NimbleRabit | and that computing power is totally wasted on WoW |
| 03:34.26 | magma | wine |
| 03:34.33 | Chaud | Play crysis on linux. |
| 03:34.34 | Dashkal | vanilla? must try again then |
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| 03:34.47 | magma | wine-0.9.55 |
| 03:34.54 | NimbleRabit | Dashkal, Wine has gotten really good compared to a year or two ago |
| 03:35.05 | Dashkal | *reboots his windows box to try* |
| 03:35.05 | vhaarr | wine has worked fine as vanilla for a _long_ time now |
| 03:35.08 | Bruners | updated nvidia drivers today and i must say the performance is better in ubuntu than in xp |
| 03:35.08 | Dashkal | well, lesse how it works |
| 03:35.14 | NimbleRabit | vhaarr, lies |
| 03:35.20 | vhaarr | not lies, facts |
| 03:35.24 | vhaarr | and yeah |
| 03:35.25 | WobWork | it's true |
| 03:35.28 | NimbleRabit | I tried linux about a year and a half ago and it didn't work nearly as well |
| 03:35.30 | vhaarr | I get more FPS in linux than I do in windows |
| 03:35.45 | NimbleRabit | as it does for me now |
| 03:35.46 | WobWork | I've been playing for the last... 10 months |
| 03:35.46 | vhaarr | a year is a long time |
| 03:35.53 | Dashkal | last time I put in a serious effort to get WoW under vanilla wine was about christmas '06 |
| 03:36.01 | Chaud | I tried osx for PC before it came out officially and had to reformat =\ |
| 03:36.05 | NimbleRabit | yeah see if you tried it then, no good |
| 03:36.08 | vhaarr | Dashkal: try now then, there's no effort involved |
| 03:36.10 | NimbleRabit | nowadays WoW just runs |
| 03:36.13 | Dashkal | since then I've poked but walked away at the first trouble |
| 03:36.15 | Dashkal | trying now |
| 03:36.19 | Dashkal | yay dual-boxing :p |
| 03:36.31 | Bruners | the only wall for me is that ventrilo wont work smothly in ubuntu |
| 03:36.34 | magma | anyway, my system is far too good to run anything BUT linux. |
| 03:36.37 | Dashkal | anything I need to configure or just cp -R my wow dir and play?\ |
| 03:36.46 | Chaud | but magma, how will you play crysis! |
| 03:36.49 | magma | I won't |
| 03:36.51 | NimbleRabit | magma, you get better fps in linux? I didn't |
| 03:36.58 | vhaarr | NimbleRabit: I do. |
| 03:37.00 | Dashkal | heh, I got halfway through crysis and got bored |
| 03:37.02 | NimbleRabit | Hmmm |
| 03:37.03 | Chaud | Then clearly need to dual boot |
| 03:37.12 | NimbleRabit | I got quite a bit worse fps |
| 03:37.17 | magma | in shattrath I get like 30fps, in ironforge I get ~150fps |
| 03:37.17 | WobWork | I haven't tried it against a clean install of xp |
| 03:37.23 | Chaud | I played it on a friends system =\ |
| 03:37.24 | Dashkal | I should really finish that game |
| 03:37.35 | WobWork | but then again, I have the 800GTX |
| 03:37.38 | magma | I have an lcd tho, so it should be capped at 60fps |
| 03:37.42 | WobWork | which might assist =) |
| 03:37.45 | vhaarr | Dashkal: note that wine recently enabled some sort of shader effect that can seriously hurt your FPS, so you might need to turn that off in regedit |
| 03:37.50 | Chaud | 6600 non GT =( |
| 03:37.50 | vhaarr | not sure |
| 03:37.56 | Dashkal | *nods* I may soon ask for a link |
| 03:38.06 | Dashkal | Do I need to force it into opengl or just a direct copy? |
| 03:38.16 | NimbleRabit | Using a 6600 gt and 3.0 pentium 4, linux did maybe 3/4th as good as my XP |
| 03:38.31 | WobWork | run it using -opengl |
| 03:38.31 | Chaud | I really need a new graphics card lol |
| 03:38.35 | Dashkal | kk |
| 03:38.42 | Chaud | the 6600 is not doing well with wow at 1680x1050 |
| 03:38.59 | NimbleRabit | WobWork, hmm I'll try it |
| 03:40.00 | NimbleRabit | I actually do like my windows though *gasp* |
| 03:40.12 | NimbleRabit | doesn't seem to have all the problems people complain about |
| 03:40.23 | Dashkal | NimbleRabit: I take it you use XP and not Vista? |
| 03:40.26 | NimbleRabit | yeah |
| 03:40.34 | Chaud | People use Vista? |
| 03:40.35 | Dashkal | Fair enough then. XP is pretty stable nowadays |
| 03:40.39 | Dashkal | I had to *sighs* |
| 03:40.53 | Chaud | I will have to when I get a laptop this summer =\ |
| 03:40.55 | Shirik | "Blah blah Vista is horrible, Vista is evil, yes I like bandwagoning, it's fun" |
| 03:40.56 | Dashkal | The laptop belongs to my work. I can do whatever on it, but the software must be legit... I don't have a copt of XP |
| 03:41.05 | Shirik | ffs stop complaining about it unless you have a legit reason to |
| 03:41.07 | Chaud | Unless I can find drivers for XP + dell laptop |
| 03:41.15 | Dashkal | Shirik: The camera is built into the monitor. Vista sees it one time in 6 |
| 03:41.22 | Chaud | I put vista on a slow computer and it is decently fast as far as the O/S goes |
| 03:41.26 | Chaud | But gaming is another story |
| 03:41.34 | Dashkal | My complaints are from direct experience |
| 03:41.42 | Shirik | Dashkal: That wasn't really directed at you |
| 03:41.44 | Chaud | The drivers fail massivily compared to XP |
| 03:41.47 | Dashkal | heh, alright |
| 03:41.53 | Shirik | Chaud: And whose fault is that? |
| 03:41.54 | Shirik | Hm? |
| 03:41.58 | Chaud | Nvidia? |
| 03:42.06 | Shirik | I have no problems with my drivers |
| 03:42.14 | Shirik | Then yes, it's Nvidia if that's where you're having the trouble |
| 03:42.14 | NimbleRabit | Anyone using windows should check out a program called Launchy btw |
| 03:42.16 | Shirik | not Microsoft's |
| 03:42.18 | Chaud | Compare your FPS on vista/XP |
| 03:42.29 | Shirik | My FPS actually went up |
| 03:42.31 | Shirik | I've already done this |
| 03:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | woho |
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| 03:42.46 | Dashkal | NimbleRabit: why? (curious) |
| 03:42.46 | break19 | I do. they went on strike, demanding better compensation. I told em to screw themselves and I would learn to drive myself. |
| 03:42.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i have all the loot i need from SSC and Eye, Kael and Vashj excluded |
| 03:43.00 | sag_ich_nicht | \o/ |
| 03:43.19 | sag_ich_nicht | !c EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 03:43.23 | WoWLuaircBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (5/8/48). 10057 HP; 5943 Mana; 127 mana regen; 2 mp5; 10407 Armour; 1800 AP; 276.300 Melee DPS; 32.45% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 99 +spell dmg/heal; 9.41% dodge; 5.00% block; 26 resilience; +27 all resists;[[ TBR: 986 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmjmj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uynsq ][ Updated: Thu Mar 6 22:53:09 2008 EST ]] |
| 03:43.26 | NimbleRabit | Dashkal, it's a really really cool and fast way of starting programs or folders. I've loved windows ever since I started using it lol |
| 03:43.26 | Chaud | Then you have some pro drivers |
| 03:43.34 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 03:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: the stats from the armory are wrong anyway, that was buffed with something |
| 03:44.04 | NimbleRabit | I've been told it's similar to macs Quicksilver if you've used a mac. I wouldn't know personaly. |
| 03:44.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and not self-buffed |
| 03:44.13 | Dashkal | hmm, looks nifty |
| 03:44.15 | pastamancer | I need to rent a corpse on US/Durotan. Make a level 1 orc or troll and send me a whisper |
| 03:44.18 | Dashkal | reminds me of ctrl-3 in eclipse, actually |
| 03:44.39 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs US Drenden Kimina EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 03:44.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail WoWLuaircBot |
| 03:44.50 | purl | WoWLuaircBot: Fail. |
| 03:45.02 | sag_ich_nicht | yes i just used one bot to insult another bot so what |
| 03:45.13 | Chaud | Bots r srsbiznass. |
| 03:46.24 | NimbleRabit | Dashkal, if you do get it add wowhead and armory search into it. Lets you type wowhead (tab) Something and it will open up a wowhead search for Something. Same thing with armory. Really nice if you run WoW windows mode especially. |
| 03:46.43 | NimbleRabit | windowed* |
| 03:46.52 | Dashkal | Does it use FF or IE bookmarks or are there plugins for that? |
| 03:47.00 | Chaud | I can't, or my FPS dies =( |
| 03:47.08 | Dashkal | I have FF searches for wowhead and armory and I keep a browser open on the laptop |
| 03:47.39 | NimbleRabit | no idea, I don't use bookmarks |
| 03:47.43 | NimbleRabit | I think it's plugins though |
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| 03:48.12 | Dashkal | Does anybody know how to get this spell?: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=6325 |
| 03:49.17 | NimbleRabit | 0.o |
| 03:49.28 | Bruners | its for the new inscription thingie |
| 03:49.30 | Bruners | i guess |
| 03:49.45 | Chaud | comment on rank 1, I don't believe this spell is ingame at the moment. It may be the effect from the hunter talent Unleashed Fury in the beastmastery tree, but it doesn't apply the correct damage |
| 03:49.48 | Dashkal | I should freq a "since patch#" feature for everything, not just comments |
| 03:49.54 | Bruners | that will come in wotlk |
| 03:50.11 | Chaud | on 12/05/2006 (Patch 2.0.1) |
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| 03:50.52 | Dashkal | hmm, comment not showing for me |
| 03:51.02 | Chaud | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=6311#comments |
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| 03:51.54 | Dashkal | been hanging around for some time now |
| 03:52.59 | Chaud | @ Dashkal: I should freq a "since patch#" feature for everything, not just comments |
| 03:53.11 | Chaud | think wowdb has that |
| 03:53.35 | Dashkal | but that would require changing seach enchines :p |
| 03:53.43 | Dashkal | and I fail at spelling |
| 03:54.06 | Chaud | Only works for more recent stuff though |
| 03:54.07 | NimbleRabit | heh I'm against wowdb |
| 03:54.48 | Chaud | wowhead clone + some features |
| 03:55.45 | Dashkal | ok, $wine Wow.exe -opengl *crosses fingers* |
| 03:56.01 | Dashkal | login screen works, good sign |
| 03:56.06 | Xinhuan | opengl eeeeewwww |
| 03:56.19 | sacarasc | Dashkal: that's how i use mine... d3d sucks with wine |
| 03:56.34 | Dashkal | heh, I'll try both and see what happens? I don't really care if I can turf windows |
| 03:56.37 | sacarasc | cedega has okish d3d support, but it's not great |
| 03:56.44 | Chaud | Wouldn't that be less FPS than windows d3d wow? |
| 03:56.56 | Dashkal | wow |
| 03:57.05 | Dashkal | the FPS is hideous, but it works |
| 03:57.32 | sacarasc | yeah, fps sucks balls on *nix ;( |
| 03:57.34 | Xinhuan | i'll be surprised if any commercial games still use opengl |
| 03:57.39 | Dashkal | no sound :( |
| 03:57.54 | Chaud | Enjoy that =p |
| 03:58.00 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 03:58.12 | WobWork | I have no problems with sound =\ |
| 03:58.24 | Dashkal | It's probably my issue |
| 03:58.37 | Chaud | Trade Dashkal computers and you would =p |
| 03:58.39 | Dashkal | kubuntu x64 + wine has always been sound -> fail for me |
| 03:58.40 | NimbleRabit | that reminds me, my entire computer's sound no longer works... |
| 03:58.42 | NimbleRabit | I should fix that |
| 03:58.53 | Chaud | 0o, how do you live without sound |
| 03:59.08 | NimbleRabit | I just need some new drivers I think |
| 03:59.11 | NimbleRabit | recently swapped motherboards |
| 03:59.59 | NimbleRabit | Dashkal, the reason I left linux that year and a half ago I mentioned |
| 04:00.03 | NimbleRabit | was because of sound |
| 04:00.11 | NimbleRabit | Linux had some serious sound issues |
| 04:00.35 | Chaud | What is the distro that tries to be like linux, and has a fee for their software/downloader or whatever? |
| 04:00.41 | Chaud | *tries to be like windows |
| 04:00.57 | sacarasc | lindows? or whatever they're calling it now |
| 04:01.08 | sacarasc | xandros is like that (not sure if it's the same thing) |
| 04:01.28 | Dashkal | lol. no sound cause I was muted |
| 04:01.34 | sacarasc | lol |
| 04:01.36 | Dashkal | hurr |
| 04:01.49 | Chaud | Linspire |
| 04:01.58 | Dashkal | lesse if d3d is any better |
| 04:02.09 | Bruners | yay, a new episode of lost |
| 04:02.34 | Chaud | I love this page http://www.linspire.com/products_linspire_whatis.php |
| 04:02.40 | NimbleRabit | how many seasons of lost are there? I kind of want to get into it |
| 04:02.45 | Chaud | 4 |
| 04:02.47 | Dashkal | hmm, d3d has issues... |
| 04:02.56 | Chaud | I am on S1E04 or something =\ |
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| 04:03.15 | Chaud | dont have time to watch it right now |
| 04:03.16 | Dashkal | fps of 8! |
| 04:03.28 | sacarasc | first season of lost was the best... since then it's got crap |
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| 04:03.42 | chiper | I'm hearing this season has been good |
| 04:03.58 | Chaud | I started watching heroes from s1 a while ago |
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| 04:04.06 | Chaud | watched them all at once, like a long movie |
| 04:04.30 | Chaud | =( |
| 04:04.31 | NimbleRabit | I like doing that with shows |
| 04:04.35 | NimbleRabit | but then when it's over |
| 04:04.38 | Chaud | I hate waiting for new episodes |
| 04:04.45 | NimbleRabit | it feels kind of weird, because you just spent so many hours watching it |
| 04:05.07 | Chaud | If you have the time it isnt bad =p |
| 04:05.17 | Chaud | I don't have time to do lost right now lol |
| 04:05.43 | kenlyric | some shows it's dangerous to do that on. |
| 04:05.56 | Dashkal | well, it works, just got a crap FPS which I can probably fix by updating and such |
| 04:06.14 | Chaud | Shows like... |
| 04:06.53 | Dashkal | does the test client still immediately segfault wine? |
| 04:06.57 | kenlyric | I did the whole second season of Buffy over two nights and was jittery for hours afterwards. |
| 04:07.11 | Chaud | lol |
| 04:07.14 | sacarasc | buffy was a time filler and nothing more... |
| 04:07.23 | Chaud | never watched it |
| 04:07.34 | Chaud | need to finish lost before I start something new =\ |
| 04:07.58 | kenlyric | unlike lost, you'll actually care if willow gets off the island. |
| 04:08.14 | Chaud | First 4 episodes have gone pretty slow so far |
| 04:08.39 | Chaud | I wish someone took it all, put it together, and cut out the useless parts |
| 04:08.41 | Bruners | is Dexter comming with another season? |
| 04:09.23 | Chaud | I don't want to see him chase the guy in the suit for 10 min, or stare at the girl for 1 min, or listen to him talk to the depressed lady for 5 min |
| 04:09.33 | Chaud | Just put in a little bit of those so that I know they happened, and we are good |
| 04:10.06 | kenlyric | 10 episodes to go down a fucking hole |
| 04:10.17 | kenlyric | it's worse than One LIfe to Live |
| 04:10.29 | Chaud | =\ I hope you don't watch that |
| 04:11.13 | kenlyric | no, neither one |
| 04:11.36 | Chaud | Make me a condensed version of lost kthx. |
| 04:11.56 | kenlyric | stuff happens to unlikable people. The end |
| 04:12.07 | sacarasc | condensed version of lost: plane crash, weird stuff, some people die |
| 04:12.26 | kenlyric | people die? well, that might make it worth it |
| 04:12.33 | Chaud | I wish there were more shows like Stargate |
| 04:12.39 | Chaud | That show is sometimes decent |
| 04:12.42 | kenlyric | of the one episode I watched, whatever happened to the little boy the pedophiles kidnapped? |
| 04:13.07 | kenlyric | since apparently pedophiles can find this island |
| 04:13.08 | sacarasc | he didn't die |
| 04:13.11 | kenlyric | but not the navy |
| 04:13.24 | chiper | hah! http://www.wowblues.com/us/drysc-dead-5103824908.html |
| 04:13.59 | Chaud | Mages will get new abilities in the expansion too, believe it or not. In fact, we intend to tone down how strong of a counter warlocks are to mages through the wotlk spells/talents. |
| 04:14.03 | Chaud | Yez plz. |
| 04:15.03 | chiper | pedophiles? how did you get that impression? |
| 04:15.21 | chiper | chaud: pray for knock back |
| 04:15.29 | Chaud | They promised it at Blizzcon! |
| 04:16.21 | chiper | what I'd really like to see is, instead of an inscription addon to select spells, a toggle that makes any damage spell have a knock back |
| 04:16.35 | Chaud | Ice lance. |
| 04:16.40 | Chaud | ./wave |
| 04:16.47 | chiper | hah, I was thinking AE |
| 04:16.58 | Chaud | that would make for funny AV |
| 04:17.01 | Chaud | and videos in general |
| 04:17.02 | NimbleRabit | how do I figure out what my motherboard and/or sound device is |
| 04:17.11 | chiper | exactly the example I had in mind :D |
| 04:17.15 | WobWork | hehe I can imagine bulling -everyone- off the bridge by spamming AE |
| 04:17.17 | Chaud | Device manager? |
| 04:17.32 | Chaud | Hopefully wotlk brings the removal of that stupid bridge =\ |
| 04:17.45 | chiper | "Oh, they're huddled around the flag? Here, let me take care of that for you." |
| 04:17.47 | WobWork | "We have replaced the brigdge with a Chairlift" |
| 04:17.52 | Chaud | rofl! |
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| 04:18.10 | Chaud | better than the hop up the back wall thing I have to do now |
| 04:18.15 | chiper | hit invisible, run into the thick of it, and then BOOM |
| 04:18.23 | WobWork | EXPLOSION =) |
| 04:18.24 | Chaud | and then the little guard at SDB agros and is like, LEWL DED MAGE |
| 04:18.41 | WobWork | hehe the tossback from that would be so cool |
| 04:18.52 | Chaud | Think of the mage pvp videos |
| 04:19.00 | WobWork | they'd be untouchable =P |
| 04:19.02 | Chaud | LM in AB would be dangerous |
| 04:19.23 | WobWork | rofl, I can imagine a 5 mage "Attack wall" |
| 04:19.35 | WobWork | that just herds the opposite faction into a hole |
| 04:19.41 | chiper | I came up with an awesome idea for a prot warrior ability after hearing my guild master bitch about how much Prot Warriors are useless in PvP |
| 04:19.47 | Chaud | The only problem with it I see is knocking people where they shouldnt be |
| 04:19.50 | WobWork | or they ring the graveyard and hedge tehm in |
| 04:19.58 | chiper | when the warrior taunts someone, on their screen everyone but the warrior vanishes |
| 04:20.06 | chiper | so they're forced to attack the warrior |
| 04:20.20 | chiper | for, like, 10 seconds or something |
| 04:20.25 | Chaud | I wish wotlk brought a graphics upgrade and new game mechanics |
| 04:20.43 | Chaud | so we could not see those blue posts " we would like to impliment this, but due to technical reasons...." |
| 04:21.30 | Chaud | Like the account wide attunements, or backpack being replaced, ect |
| 04:21.33 | pastamancer | I need to rent a corpse on US/Durotan. Make a level 1 orc or troll and send me a whisper |
| 04:21.57 | Chaud | That would require opening the game =( |
| 04:22.20 | pastamancer | it's for science! |
| 04:22.25 | Chaud | Lies |
| 04:22.46 | WobWork | backpack being replaced? |
| 04:22.49 | pastamancer | how about if I promise hot cybers while I molest your corpse? |
| 04:22.53 | chiper | I dont like the idea of letting anyone handle my corpse, for any reason |
| 04:23.04 | Chaud | Only if nude pix are involved. |
| 04:23.06 | chiper | oh, see, now you've really lost your chances |
| 04:23.29 | Chaud | I would love to see at least character models updated for WotLK |
| 04:23.40 | Chaud | undead look awful |
| 04:24.00 | chiper | I just want higher textures |
| 04:24.05 | Arrowmaster | i love casting unstable affliction on trash mobs while theyre spell reflecting |
| 04:24.06 | chiper | erm, higher res |
| 04:24.31 | Chaud | I can just do low as it is now =p |
| 04:24.41 | Chaud | Need a new card so badly, but have no money |
| 04:25.53 | CIA-9 | 03totalpackage * r63782 10Cellular/ (. Cellular.toc core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 04:25.53 | CIA-9 | Cellular |
| 04:25.53 | CIA-9 | - added a way to copy and paste text, removed url linking as a result |
| 04:25.53 | CIA-9 | - updated to LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 04:25.53 | CIA-9 | - showing timestamps is now an option |
| 04:27.13 | kenlyric | oh lordy, cellular updates |
| 04:28.24 | Dashkal | oh lord. remind me to never _ever_ browse into trunk with tortisesvn again |
| 04:29.43 | pastamancer | seriously though, I need someone to create a level 1 orc or troll and die but not release so I can work on range-checking dead people for grid |
| 04:30.06 | sacarasc | Dashkal: go browse into the trunk with tortoisesvn! now! |
| 04:30.23 | Dashkal | heh, I just made that mistake. it unfroze about 3 minutes later |
| 04:31.45 | kenlyric | pastamancer: which realm? |
| 04:31.51 | pastamancer | kenlyric: US/Durotan |
| 04:32.08 | kenlyric | anything for grid! |
| 04:32.46 | pastamancer | it shouldn't take more than 5-10 min |
| 04:33.07 | Dashkal | Meh, I am so not looking forward to the testing phases for Nexus... |
| 04:33.09 | pastamancer | I just need to find out which spells work for IsSpellInRange with a dead but friendly target that hasn't released |
| 04:33.44 | kenlyric | same name in game |
| 04:33.53 | Dashkal | I swear I'm going to have to get my victims to screenshot debug dumps and send it to me |
| 04:34.00 | break19 | hey guys.. build/spec advice: þÿhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVZVVzZdEtoI0zcxst <- good tank build? |
| 04:37.11 | Chaud | Warrior forums say http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?050003000000000000000000500000000000000000000055511033012103531351 |
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| 04:43.33 | break19 | with that build, stance-dancing is basically out of the question.. |
| 04:44.47 | break19 | and rage could be harder to come by as well |
| 04:45.12 | Dashkal | meh, tables that act like functions mess with my head |
| 04:45.20 | Chaud | Good thing the most I know about warriors is how to PvP with one =p |
| 04:46.46 | ckknight_ | hrm? |
| 04:46.47 | Dashkal | wtb python dir() in lua |
| 04:47.04 | Dashkal | I'm trying to puzzle out how to use rock (doing hello world) and got confused by fubar calling Rock() |
| 04:47.06 | break19 | this is my current spec: þÿhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Carnar |
| 04:47.20 | break19 | he seems to do pretty good, other than just needing better gear |
| 04:47.26 | Dashkal | not confused now that I read that line (of LibRock-1.0.lua) it's where you put a metatable on the Rock global to let it work as a function |
| 04:47.28 | Chaud | break19: what is with your irc client =\ |
| 04:47.35 | break19 | hm? |
| 04:47.43 | Chaud | þÿhttp:// on your links |
| 04:47.52 | Chaud | Might be what is with mine... |
| 04:48.08 | break19 | http:// = the beginning of any website. :P |
| 04:48.17 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.29 | Dashkal | I see some characters prepended as well: "þÿ" |
| 04:48.34 | break19 | weird |
| 04:48.36 | Chaud | well, yeah, but the þÿ |
| 04:48.37 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r63783 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:48.37 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-2.0: |
| 04:48.37 | CIA-9 | - Some localization, koKR update |
| 04:48.56 | Chaud | I can't click them, have to copy+paste =\ |
| 04:50.01 | break19 | how about this: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Carnar |
| 04:50.06 | Chaud | works fine |
| 04:50.13 | Dashkal | hmm, that line was for localization tables... in that case why is the table working as a function? O.o |
| 04:50.16 | break19 | kk.. unicode-16 vs unicode8 :) |
| 04:50.47 | chiper | uhh, hmm, does magicmarker have a config screen? |
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| 04:51.39 | NimbleRabit | anyone know of a good todo list or sticky note or similar type program for windows? |
| 04:51.59 | break19 | outlook 2007 (or 2008) |
| 04:52.06 | Chaud | I use a calendar with a list of upcoming events, + todo list on my desktop |
| 04:52.10 | NimbleRabit | not exactly what I'm looking for break |
| 04:52.32 | NimbleRabit | something simpler |
| 04:52.35 | Chaud | http://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php |
| 04:52.41 | break19 | cant help you then. I use iCal |
| 04:52.47 | NimbleRabit | I used to use google desktop but then eventually I realized the only thing I liked about it was the notepad plugin |
| 04:52.48 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 04:54.31 | Fisker- | ah wtf |
| 04:54.35 | Fisker- | n00bs :( |
| 04:54.39 | Chaud | ur nub. |
| 04:54.42 | Fisker- | I was cleaning up our dkp site |
| 04:54.48 | Fisker- | Then i saw gzip compression was disabled |
| 04:54.51 | Fisker- | "lawlwut" |
| 04:54.56 | Fisker- | Then i enabled it and ruined the site |
| 04:55.00 | Fisker- | then it was really "lawlwut" |
| 04:55.10 | Fisker- | what ancient old shitty server doesn't support gzip? |
| 04:55.24 | Chaud | rofl |
| 04:55.29 | NimbleRabit | haha |
| 04:55.58 | break19 | Fisker-: IIS |
| 04:56.07 | ckknight_ | Dashkal: Rock(...) => Rock:GetLibrary(...) |
| 04:56.08 | Fisker- | your mother :< |
| 04:56.17 | Dashkal | ahh, that helps |
| 04:56.37 | Dashkal | Right now I'm trying to figure out how to notice what Ace3 did with addon:OnInitialize() and :OnEnable() |
| 04:56.43 | break19 | Fisker-: I was just answering your question. rofl |
| 04:57.01 | Dashkal | FuBar isn't exactly a simple template... any recomendation for a better template?\ |
| 04:57.06 | break19 | IIS doesnt do gzip. or didnt the last time I messed with it. |
| 04:57.19 | Chaud | People use IIS when they don't have to? |
| 04:57.22 | break19 | which, admittedly was a while ago. |
| 04:57.26 | Dashkal | People use IIS? |
| 04:57.38 | break19 | Chaud: I used it on a home system for the hell of it. |
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| 04:58.11 | Chaud | I think it is running on my vista box somehow =\ |
| 04:58.19 | Chaud | When I go to the IP it has the welcome page |
| 04:58.26 | Chaud | but I never installed it or enabled it |
| 04:59.21 | Chaud | I need to install SP1 on it, but don't want to break the crack =( |
| 04:59.33 | break19 | it's vista.. vista installs all kinds of shit you dont want.. |
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| 05:01.06 | Fisker- | It's pretty annoying though |
| 05:01.14 | Fisker- | This guy don't want anyone messing with his server |
| 05:01.24 | Fisker- | So i have to send him the SQL query to fix it cause he don't know shit |
| 05:01.42 | Chaud | Should have left it alone =p |
| 05:01.53 | Fisker- | hey Chambrln |
| 05:01.55 | Fisker- | Chaud |
| 05:02.03 | Fisker- | When i see "Enable gzip compression" I FUCKING PRESS IT |
| 05:02.04 | Fisker- | :O |
| 05:02.06 | Dashkal | had I still been booted linux that would be fine :p But I checked on my linux laptop |
| 05:02.18 | Dashkal | erm, windows vista laptop |
| 05:02.20 | Chaud | Hey guess what |
| 05:02.20 | Fisker- | Anything else is madness |
| 05:02.21 | Dashkal | wtb brain |
| 05:02.24 | Chaud | Don't press it |
| 05:02.24 | Fisker- | and blasphemy |
| 05:02.35 | Fisker- | My server > his anyways |
| 05:02.41 | Fisker- | it's annoying that they let him host it :P |
| 05:02.54 | NimbleRabit | somebody said madness |
| 05:02.56 | Chaud | Only thing I have admin to anymore is pvpscene lol |
| 05:03.04 | Fisker- | My server spits out pages ~10 times faster than his |
| 05:03.15 | break19 | my server = fail. |
| 05:03.17 | Fisker- | i.e. same type of pages, same database, etc. |
| 05:03.35 | Fisker- | But of course i both use caching and gzip |
| 05:03.38 | Fisker- | He probably uses neither :P |
| 05:04.09 | Chaud | I remember having a dedicated server to play with lol |
| 05:04.35 | break19 | I have ftp/http/ssh/vnc all open on my laptop.. anonymous/guest logins where applicable (except ssh duh). and no one can do anything to me. |
| 05:04.40 | Chaud | It was a windows one for some reason, all the rest at the company were some linux distro |
| 05:04.44 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ <-my dedicated server is being hammered! |
| 05:04.58 | Fisker- | can barely keep up with "lawlwut" |
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| 05:05.05 | Arrowmaster | so i leave black temple and i find a dawnsteal bracer pattern in my inventory.... im a tailor.... |
| 05:05.22 | Fisker- | stealing you say? |
| 05:05.22 | Chaud | Try leaving BT more often. |
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| 05:05.48 | Arrowmaster | masterloot put it in there when i bitched about the tailoring patterns never droping |
| 05:06.02 | Arrowmaster | every blacksmith and leatherworker has like every pattern |
| 05:06.08 | Fisker- | :D |
| 05:06.16 | Chaud | 0o, they are selling patterns on my server |
| 05:06.30 | khangg | Can you move the default tooltip anchor without using a tooltip addon? |
| 05:06.38 | Arrowmaster | theyre bop |
| 05:07.11 | break19 | khangg: sure you can.. you can typein a cryptic /command every time you log in. |
| 05:07.27 | khangg | what command would that be o: |
| 05:07.36 | break19 | depends on where you want to move it to |
| 05:07.45 | khangg | under my minimap |
| 05:07.52 | Dashkal | I know you wanted no addon, but LitheTooltipDoctor did the job and nothing else |
| 05:07.53 | khangg | which is on the top right |
| 05:08.09 | break19 | then you'll need to play with numbers...the frame is GameToolTip iirc |
| 05:08.12 | Chaud | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35526 |
| 05:08.48 | Chaud | bah, wrong one, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35525 |
| 05:09.07 | khangg | 4 hearts of darkness? o.o |
| 05:10.04 | break19 | khangg: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_SetOwner go here.. it will tell you how to move the tooltip |
| 05:10.17 | Chaud | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215845519&postId=22153073107&sid=1#0 |
| 05:10.29 | Chaud | They have been selling them since Oct. last year lol |
| 05:10.50 | khangg | break19, this should be fun :P |
| 05:11.14 | break19 | khangg: once you figure that out, you can type /run GameTooltip:SetOwner(ownerhere, "anchorhere", xlocation, ylocation) |
| 05:11.53 | Chaud | Stuff was expensive back then lol, Hearts of Darkness for 1500G each. |
| 05:13.33 | break19 | khangg: just an fyi.. anything you can do ingame, either with an addon, or without an addon, can theoretically be done by hand. |
| 05:13.41 | Fisker- | YAY YAY YAY |
| 05:13.43 | break19 | using /run to execute lua code |
| 05:13.47 | Fisker- | i could use teh Firefox! |
| 05:13.49 | Fisker- | and i was liek |
| 05:13.57 | Chaud | use firefox to do...? |
| 05:14.01 | Fisker- | accept gzip and deflate? IN MY BROKEN DKP SITE? I think not! |
| 05:14.04 | break19 | Camino > Firefox |
| 05:14.05 | khangg | break19, o: |
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| 05:14.15 | Fisker- | Then the site loaded and i could disable gzip :P |
| 05:14.33 | Chaud | lewl mac |
| 05:14.42 | break19 | Fisker-: sounds like your crappy browser is the one that doesnt like the gzip. :p |
| 05:15.12 | Fisker- | no |
| 05:16.03 | break19 | lewd mac? you sayin my mac is lewd? how dare you. |
| 05:16.23 | Chaud | Nude mac shots plz! |
| 05:16.40 | Fisker- | http://i25.tinypic.com/24pfcox.jpg |
| 05:16.47 | Fisker- | cox.jpg ftw |
| 05:17.03 | Chaud | never seen that error before =p |
| 05:17.32 | Chaud | (Likely because people know when not to enable stuff) |
| 05:17.40 | Fisker- | tried browsing it from my linux server as it's usually a lot less error prone than other shit |
| 05:17.55 | Fisker- | And it said the recieved page wasn't compressed with gzip :P |
| 05:18.04 | Chaud | gfail. |
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| 05:18.22 | Fisker- | But now i know :P |
| 05:18.32 | Fisker- | btw |
| 05:18.33 | Fisker- | WUTS THAT? |
| 05:18.39 | Fisker- | DID THEY RIP OFF THE IE DESIGN AGAIN? |
| 05:18.42 | Fisker- | How clever |
| 05:18.52 | Chaud | ? |
| 05:18.59 | Fisker- | the back/forward buttons |
| 05:19.18 | Chaud | those are hella ugly |
| 05:19.21 | Chaud | that beta 3? |
| 05:19.27 | Fisker- | pre-b4 |
| 05:19.41 | break19 | those back/forward buttons came from Camino. |
| 05:19.50 | Chaud | They are bad =( |
| 05:19.55 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 05:20.16 | Fisker- | http://caminobrowser.org/ <-doesn't even look like it |
| 05:20.44 | Fisker- | unless it was an earlier build |
| 05:20.47 | Chaud | those features are the same as firefox zomg |
| 05:21.27 | break19 | http://i30.tinypic.com/2yx54s5.jpg |
| 05:21.46 | Chaud | you have amazon bookmarked? |
| 05:22.04 | break19 | Chaud: default bookmark |
| 05:22.26 | Fisker- | fail |
| 05:22.30 | break19 | the only bookmark on there that *I* put on as the wowinterface one |
| 05:22.31 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 05:22.32 | Chaud | I do like mac font smoothing though =\ |
| 05:22.43 | Fisker- | learn2opera |
| 05:22.58 | break19 | opera looks like some 3rd grade art class project |
| 05:22.58 | khangg | break19, it's not working : |
| 05:23.12 | Chaud | opera IDK how to make the font work |
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| 05:23.29 | Fisker- | Then IE and Fx looks like a pre-school project :P |
| 05:23.30 | Chaud | I tried that one browser that was mac and released for PC and it worked, but browser was sluggish |
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| 05:23.44 | Fisker- | Safari? |
| 05:23.48 | Chaud | yeah |
| 05:24.05 | break19 | Chaud: thats apple's own browser.. and nobody really uses it anymore than people use IE. |
| 05:24.22 | Chaud | but the font smoothing looked nice =( |
| 05:24.35 | break19 | i mean.. -those- people do.. but not people who actually give a shit about anything other than "zomg AOL RULES!" |
| 05:25.00 | Chaud | AOL still exists? |
| 05:25.40 | break19 | unfortunately yes. even tho you can get DSL here for LESS than aol's standard dialup charge.. my sister-in-law uses aol. still.. has for years |
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| 05:25.49 | Chaud | Why =( |
| 05:26.13 | break19 | she's too far from the switch for the dsl :( |
| 05:26.19 | Chaud | Cable? |
| 05:26.44 | break19 | and she lives down a 4mile private road, no cable down there.. |
| 05:26.56 | break19 | satellite, or phoneline.. her only options |
| 05:26.59 | Chaud | Ew =\ |
| 05:27.04 | Chaud | I would move =p |
| 05:27.12 | break19 | she did.. she moved to THERE. |
| 05:27.17 | Chaud | why0o |
| 05:27.56 | break19 | she has 30 acres there :) |
| 05:28.05 | Chaud | I couldn't stand being stuck with dialup, regardless of land |
| 05:28.05 | NimbleRabit | I don't get it |
| 05:28.11 | NimbleRabit | I switched my motherboard and processor, but it's still a 3.0 |
| 05:28.15 | NimbleRabit | and now WoW is lagging like crazy |
| 05:28.24 | Chaud | new drivers installed? |
| 05:28.42 | Chaud | bios updated, ect |
| 05:28.56 | NimbleRabit | nope, I've never updated a bios before |
| 05:29.02 | NimbleRabit | and is there mobo drivers? |
| 05:29.04 | break19 | actually.. I take that back chaud.. I just remembered.. she's got verizon service now |
| 05:29.08 | Chaud | Chipset drivers |
| 05:29.13 | NimbleRabit | what are those |
| 05:29.14 | Chaud | The laptop card thing? |
| 05:29.16 | Chaud | wow... |
| 05:29.19 | Chaud | What mobo is it |
| 05:30.47 | break19 | she's had the verizon thing for a couple of months now.. she says its worth it being able to use the net from wherever.. but its not really much faster than dialup in a lot of places she goes.. |
| 05:31.01 | break19 | i cant believe I completely forgot about it. |
| 05:31.17 | Chaud | Some guy at school has it lol... |
| 05:31.25 | Chaud | Even though the campus has wireless all over |
| 05:31.48 | break19 | didnt even know she had it until a week or so ago, when our niece was here visiting and fired up the connection on her laptop.. yea.. she didnt wanna use our wireless here... |
| 05:32.35 | Chaud | I wish there was a software solution to utilize a wired + wireless connection for torrents |
| 05:32.53 | Chaud | My neighbor hardly ever uses their connection, and it sits there open =\ |
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| 05:33.53 | break19 | Chaud: there is.. its called bonding |
| 05:33.54 | NimbleRabit | Chaud, ecs pt800ce-a |
| 05:34.18 | Chaud | but is it done with software easily on windows |
| 05:34.42 | break19 | XP and up can do it with "Bridge Connections" on the right click menu of Network places |
| 05:35.32 | Chaud | http://snipurl.com/21644 drivers |
| 05:35.46 | Chaud | and BIOS if you need to update it |
| 05:36.29 | Chaud | Hmm, I tried bridge once |
| 05:36.37 | Chaud | I'll have to look at it again this weekend |
| 05:37.21 | Chaud | Will it actually allow me to use both wired/wireless for torrents? |
| 05:41.48 | break19 | thats how it was advertised... |
| 05:42.03 | break19 | I never was able to verify it worked because I had no way to do so |
| 05:42.24 | Chaud | Well, I'll look at it again this weekend, thanks =) |
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| 05:42.58 | NimbleRabit | Chaud, don't see anything about chipset there |
| 05:43.02 | NimbleRabit | I'll get all that stuff though |
| 05:43.08 | Chaud | just download them all lol |
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| 05:47.58 | Chaud | Why did you get an ECS mobo in the first place =\ |
| 05:48.15 | Chaud | when I last built, they were almost the worst out there |
| 05:48.56 | NimbleRabit | it was free |
| 05:49.30 | Chaud | Ahh |
| 05:49.55 | NimbleRabit | could I possibly need to reinstall video card drivers? |
| 05:50.59 | chiper | uhh, what happened to the bar textures library? a bunch of the textures have vanished |
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| 05:51.21 | Chaud | Couldn't hurt |
| 05:51.21 | Chaud | what card is it |
| 05:51.21 | Dashkal | Meh, I need an icehud bar for threat vs current target |
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| 05:51.22 | Fisker- | MINE |
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| 05:51.27 | Chaud | =( nerf |
| 05:51.27 | chiper | Pitbull reverted to blizzard standard, and the Flat texture is gone |
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| 05:51.36 | Chaud | I ate the textures =( |
| 05:52.02 | Chaud | If hal gave permission, what are the chances of his textures getting added to sharedmedia |
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| 05:58.14 | Nimble_Rabit | Chaud, 6600gt nvidia |
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| 05:58.51 | Chaud | ew |
| 05:58.59 | Chaud | Slightly better than mine |
| 05:59.17 | Lukian | Dashkal, ooo nice idea |
| 05:59.47 | Lukian | hell I might actually pay attention to my threat with one of those |
| 05:59.51 | Lukian | rather than having to cower |
| 06:00.55 | Chaud | I need sleep, class in 4.5 hrs, night =( |
| 06:01.17 | Dashkal | Who wrote that one anyway? |
| 06:01.18 | chiper | seriously, what changed that made those textures go away? |
| 06:01.56 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r63784 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 06:01.56 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: Tradeskill: |
| 06:01.56 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 06:03.23 | Dashkal | Parnic: Any possibility of a threat bar? Is there a palce I should suggest? Patch or go away? :p |
| 06:04.37 | Lukian | Dashkal, Iceroth did, but Parnic seems to be the maintainer ^_^ |
| 06:04.48 | Dashkal | His name was in the about box anyway |
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| 06:09.00 | Dashkal | Parnic: In case you pull this out of your hilight logs later. The context is a bar in IceHud that shows threat vs current target |
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| 06:25.13 | CIA-9 | LibTalents-1.0: |
| 06:25.13 | CIA-9 | - Updated |
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| 07:02.00 | xyu | is there any waterfall for magicmarker? |
| 07:05.29 | Grum | waterfall? |
| 07:05.34 | Grum | what era are you from? ;D |
| 07:07.14 | xyu | well it's not in rock :p |
| 07:09.14 | Grum | likely ace |
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| 07:10.14 | Nargiddley | try /magicmarker |
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| 07:14.23 | xyu | yeah just gives me a dialogue options |
| 07:14.49 | xyu | i'm not sure how to make it auto mark things :D |
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| 07:17.22 | xyu | oh i'm getting errors |
| 07:18.06 | Nargiddley | ah I was just looking at the options table registration :/ |
| 07:19.49 | xyu | AceConfigCmd-3.0\AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua:654: AceConfigCmd-3.0: /magicmarker options generalHeader: unknown options table item type 'header' |
| 07:20.58 | Nargiddley | do you have a really old Ace3 around somewhere ? |
| 07:21.10 | Nargiddley | cause that error makes no sense otherwise |
| 07:21.20 | xyu | hm |
| 07:21.22 | xyu | i dont have ace3 i think |
| 07:21.24 | xyu | lol |
| 07:21.46 | Nargiddley | well an error from AceConfigCmd-3.0 says otherwise :P |
| 07:22.27 | xyu | how would i update it? |
| 07:22.58 | Nargiddley | find whatever you have embedding an old version I guess |
| 07:23.29 | Nargiddley | I dont think you should be able to have one old enough to cause that error tho :/ |
| 07:23.57 | xyu | i dont use embeds |
| 07:24.12 | Grum | ace3 should be embedded |
| 07:24.22 | Nargiddley | do you have the 'Ace3' addon ? |
| 07:24.31 | Nargiddley | if not you must be using embeds for something since its loaded |
| 07:24.42 | xyu | ok |
| 07:25.53 | nevcairiel | header not there? man that has to be old |
| 07:26.02 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 07:26.16 | Nargiddley | thats close to before alpha from memory :/ |
| 07:27.41 | Grum | i wonder, did they forcibly disembed ace3? |
| 07:27.59 | Grum | or arent the changes made to the packager that just leaves it embedded no matter what? |
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| 07:28.55 | Nargiddley | ok that error can't be from an old version |
| 07:29.09 | Nargiddley | cause header is older than the validator |
| 07:29.22 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, I get that same error. :o |
| 07:29.28 | xyu | all i did was went to WAU selected magicmarker w/o externals |
| 07:29.31 | xyu | and this is what i get :) |
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| 07:29.57 | xyu | gonna try it w/ externals |
| 07:29.57 | Grum | guess WAU also needs a makeover |
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| 07:32.55 | xyu | hm tried it w/ embeds |
| 07:32.58 | xyu | no luck qq |
| 07:33.03 | xyu | same error |
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| 07:35.50 | Nargiddley | ok |
| 07:36.20 | Nargiddley | so how did ConfigCmd throwing errors on type header not get noticed before now ? |
| 07:36.33 | Grum | not sure |
| 07:36.36 | Nargiddley | cause its not the validator thats the problem heh |
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| 07:38.19 | Nargiddley | or wait, this will only error if you try to execute the header |
| 07:38.53 | Nargiddley | so what is the options table doing to cause that :/ |
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| 07:41.35 | xyu | i'm typing /magicmarker options generalHeader |
| 07:41.47 | Nargiddley | why would you do that ? |
| 07:41.57 | xyu | its in the options? i wanted to see what it did |
| 07:42.04 | nevcairiel | its a fucking header |
| 07:42.04 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 07:42.07 | Nargiddley | its a header, it does nothing |
| 07:42.16 | xyu | why is it there >< |
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| 07:42.19 | Nargiddley | except complain that it doesnt know what to do with a header |
| 07:42.27 | Nargiddley | as a heading ? |
| 07:42.41 | xyu | oh -_- |
| 07:43.00 | Orionshock | eh wha? |
| 07:45.59 | xyu | i just dont know how to get it to auto mark on mouse over :( |
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| 07:46.18 | Nargiddley | do you have Ace3 embedded or standalone ? |
| 07:46.52 | xyu | i am not sure |
| 07:47.04 | Nargiddley | do you have the addon 'Ace3' |
| 07:47.26 | xyu | yeah |
| 07:47.30 | Nargiddley | /ace3 |
| 07:47.48 | xyu | brought up magic marker |
| 07:48.17 | Nargiddley | well it brought up every Ace3 config table, but from the sound of it thats all :P |
| 07:48.34 | xyu | hehe yeah |
| 07:48.36 | xyu | that and routes |
| 07:48.47 | xyu | but i dont see anything about auto marking |
| 07:49.14 | Nargiddley | I just make the dialog, no control over whats in it sorry :D |
| 07:49.24 | xyu | hehe |
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| 07:53.14 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-3.0: |
| 07:53.14 | CIA-9 | Add zhCN local file |
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| 07:56.52 | Orionshock | Q: is grid getting branches and improved to an ace3 base? |
| 07:57.54 | haste | A: You shouldn't care about it's lib base. |
| 07:58.03 | Orionshock | :P i do |
| 07:58.12 | Grum | moving to ace3 doesnt mean better code O.o |
| 07:58.14 | Orionshock | << not a dumb user |
| 07:58.27 | Orionshock | ffs, spare me the crap |
| 07:58.28 | nevcairiel | obviously you are |
| 07:58.32 | nevcairiel | or you wouldnt care |
| 07:58.37 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.52 | Grum | you cant say 'new and improved' and 'ace3 based' in one line without getting these kinds of comments |
| 07:58.58 | Grum | and so it should be |
| 07:59.00 | Orionshock | ^^ true that |
| 07:59.24 | Grum | people believed that 'Ace2' meant superb code |
| 07:59.28 | Grum | i even did once |
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| 07:59.43 | Grum | and then i looked at the some of the code .. and my future babies cried |
| 07:59.54 | Ellipsis | hey I made those specially for him >:( |
| 08:00.04 | Orionshock | just wondering, didn't have the time just yet to read through the google group to see if it was branched... i like to "beta" test random stuff, and grid happens to be a new addition to my addon collection |
| 08:00.04 | Grum | NOT MY ELLIPSIS COOKIES :( |
| 08:00.04 | Ellipsis | if you wanted some all you had to do is ask! |
| 08:00.18 | nevcairiel | that explains the taste |
| 08:00.29 | Grum | made with love! |
| 08:01.06 | nevcairiel | i'm a druid, i can remove poisons, so no worries |
| 08:01.09 | Grum | \o/ |
| 08:01.12 | Grum | eeey |
| 08:01.14 | Grum | O.o |
| 08:01.31 | Grum | guess its good i didnt get hungry |
| 08:01.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:01.55 | nevcairiel | i'm hungry tbh, but i didnt have breakfast yet |
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| 08:02.30 | Grum | well die from my cookies! |
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| 08:06.05 | Orionshock | :P |
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| 08:11.20 | Orionshock | ok.. gird branch not stable... |
| 08:12.51 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 08:13.13 | Grum | Orionshock: try Grid instead of gird ;D |
| 08:13.47 | Orionshock | :P |
| 08:13.49 | Orionshock | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Grid/Ace3/ |
| 08:13.57 | Orionshock | << not entirely awake :( |
| 08:14.55 | Orionshock | O.O dog tag wen't v3? |
| 08:15.32 | Ellipsis | it's not finished yet |
| 08:16.39 | Diao | oh |
| 08:16.40 | Diao | grum |
| 08:16.50 | Diao | think you weren't around earlier |
| 08:17.34 | Orionshock | hummm...wonder if anyone has figured out what GetUnit() gives with the new tt:SetHyperlink("unit:GUID") ...-.- |
| 08:20.08 | Grum | Diao: prolly not if it was before 2 hrs ago :) |
| 08:20.37 | Diao | last sunday we did a kara run |
| 08:20.48 | Diao | after our spri respecced to a more pve friendly build.. turns out she was using r1 spells |
| 08:21.09 | Diao | but after buying max rank spells she still only doubled her dps and was still nearly beaten by the tanks >.> |
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| 08:26.22 | sacarasc | Diao: sounds bad |
| 08:26.56 | sacarasc | last time i went i was 3rd on damage ;( that's terrible |
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| 08:32.31 | nevcairiel | shadows are not expected to beat "real" dps classes, but being beaten by the tanks is hard =P |
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| 08:38.42 | sacarasc | i get told i'm not a "real" dps class a lot and that I should be healing even more |
| 08:40.42 | nevcairiel | if a shadow priest can top the dps of a mage/hunter/lock/rogue, they are doing something badly wrong |
| 08:41.08 | Orionshock | or they outclass the dps |
| 08:41.15 | sacarasc | i can top mage/hunter/locks and most of the time rogues (as an enhancement shammy) |
| 08:41.36 | nevcairiel | then those do something wrong too |
| 08:41.41 | [Ammo] | definately |
| 08:41.46 | sacarasc | yeah |
| 08:42.02 | sacarasc | it's never because of my skill, always they're failing ;( |
| 08:42.04 | [Ammo] | enhancement is mediocre at bad |
| 08:42.07 | [Ammo] | at best |
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| 08:43.14 | Diao | well |
| 08:43.20 | Diao | if you look at our dps charts |
| 08:43.25 | Diao | our shadowpriests actually do well on dps usually |
| 08:43.29 | Diao | she just happens to suck |
| 08:43.39 | Ayth | shadow does fine until you get to T6 content |
| 08:43.44 | Ayth | it doesn't scale |
| 08:44.22 | nevcairiel | thats where we are, so .. yeah :P |
| 08:45.08 | sacarasc | it's unlikely my guild will ever get that far... pretty sure WotLK will come out before we even do Gruul/Magtheridon |
| 08:45.26 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 08:45.30 | Xinhuan | i prefer to say that shadow priest performance tends to depend on the fight |
| 08:45.42 | Xinhuan | for a fight like illidan, with a lot of movement and killing other mobs |
| 08:45.47 | Xinhuan | spriests, has advantage |
| 08:45.49 | sacarasc | yes, we're crap but we have fun ;D |
| 08:45.58 | nevcairiel | everything depends on the fight, but on full-out, a real class should always outdps shadows |
| 08:46.10 | nevcairiel | *real dps class |
| 08:46.17 | Xinhuan | for a plain tank/spank fight, spriest should not be near the top |
| 08:46.41 | Xinhuan | fights like kazrogal, locks/priest have advantage as their dots continue to tick during a silence |
| 08:46.53 | Xinhuan | but hunters always win during kazrogal anyway |
| 08:46.54 | nevcairiel | thats azgalor |
| 08:47.07 | Xinhuan | ah yeah azgalor |
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| 08:47.25 | Xinhuan | while for kazrogal melee usually loses due to aoe stun every 10 secs hehe |
| 08:47.30 | Ayth | SPriests cap around 1500 dps if they have best gear and best raid comp, and non-mobility fight. Much lower then any other dps. |
| 08:47.39 | nevcairiel | then your melees suck, you can outrange the stun as melee :D |
| 08:47.44 | Xinhuan | you can't |
| 08:47.49 | Xinhuan | they all tried |
| 08:47.54 | nevcairiel | works for ours |
| 08:47.58 | Xinhuan | no direction can outrange it |
| 08:48.06 | Xinhuan | we'ev asked other guilds on our server |
| 08:48.16 | Xinhuan | they all agreed the online guides saying they are outrangable is all wrong |
| 08:48.25 | Xinhuan | it is nto outrangable |
| 08:48.28 | nevcairiel | i'm 100% sure that we've done it |
| 08:48.39 | Xinhuan | i'm 100% sure no guild on my server can outrange the stun |
| 08:48.47 | Xinhuan | maybe EU and US servers have different bosses |
| 08:49.04 | nevcairiel | i dont think so :D |
| 08:49.20 | Diao | ol |
| 08:49.21 | Xinhuan | well i don't believe you |
| 08:49.57 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63788 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 08:49.57 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 08:49.57 | CIA-9 | - Now grabbing SPELL_CREATE events. |
| 08:50.02 | nevcairiel | maybe they changed the hitbox at some point, but when we were there the first few times, i am sure it worked |
| 08:50.11 | Snago | I've had the same experince as Xinhuan, no matter how far away I stand.. if I'm in melee range I get stunned |
| 08:50.28 | Xinhuan | you should go ask your melee again nevcairiel |
| 08:51.31 | Snago | there's DR on the stun though, so every fourth stun or so I'm immune |
| 08:51.45 | nevcairiel | DR on a boss spell .. hah |
| 08:52.22 | Xinhuan | you'll notice that most boss guides don't even mention you can blink out of rage winterchill's freeze ;p |
| 08:52.37 | nevcairiel | do they mention the pvp insignia? |
| 08:52.44 | Xinhuan | yes heh |
| 08:52.48 | Xinhuan | but not blink |
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| 08:53.42 | nevcairiel | any half-intelligent mage will try that tho .. its the same mechanic as hunter trap thingy |
| 08:54.21 | Xinhuan | you can't blink out of a hunter trap |
| 08:54.27 | Xinhuan | the freezing one that is |
| 08:55.46 | nevcairiel | not? i thought you could |
| 08:56.01 | Xinhuan | nope, hunter freeze trap isn't considered a stun |
| 08:56.12 | Xinhuan | its a incapacitate, you break out as soon as you take 1 damage |
| 08:56.44 | Diao | it's not incapacitate either |
| 08:56.52 | Diao | warriors can't berserker rage out of it :P |
| 08:57.10 | nevcairiel | its "frozen" :P |
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| 09:07.52 | Industrial | Anyone here ever use Eclipse? |
| 09:09.31 | Ellipsis | need halps? |
| 09:09.41 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/07d6016aa3debc49bb14e58fb9756dad.PNG |
| 09:09.46 | Industrial | I need halps with fonts |
| 09:09.52 | keiss | "The War Stop can no longer be outranged and will hit all nearby enemies." |
| 09:10.09 | Industrial | I chan ge the default text font and it makes a weird mix |
| 09:10.20 | Industrial | L2use 1 font >:o |
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| 09:10.36 | Ellipsis | well that's kind of how it works |
| 09:10.45 | Industrial | well why |
| 09:10.50 | Ellipsis | some other editors fail like that too /coughNotepad++cough |
| 09:11.22 | Ellipsis | I don't know, probably for the same reason certain addons have options for the exact behavior of every single pixel of their frames |
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| 09:11.40 | Ellipsis | you probably don't care, but *what if* you wanted 6 different fonts on one line of code? |
| 09:11.57 | Industrial | you'd be a retard |
| 09:12.04 | Industrial | ;p |
| 09:12.11 | Ellipsis | yeah, but that's what users are |
| 09:12.17 | Ellipsis | hence, software is written for them :) |
| 09:12.39 | Industrial | its all those users' fault |
| 09:12.48 | Ellipsis | damn right, we should just kill them all! |
| 09:12.54 | Ellipsis | PS: ilu have my babies k? |
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| 09:13.05 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 09:13.05 | CIA-9 | - zhCN Locale readjust update |
| 09:13.06 | Industrial | k |
| 09:13.17 | Industrial | but class is over so i gotta go :< |
| 09:13.25 | Ellipsis | ok, sex when you get home then <3 |
| 09:13.31 | Industrial | hokai |
| 09:15.44 | NeoTron | I will really need a pretty hefty manual for this thing |
| 09:17.28 | Lukian | or you could just make a really intuitive ui :D |
| 09:17.32 | NeoTron | two things: 1) save current marks on the raid, 2) load them. This is useful if you mark for phase 2 on illidan but don't want them in phase 1/3-5 since they prevent skulls on ppls heads |
| 09:18.01 | NeoTron | 2) Ability to mark all decursers in the raid, or all decursers/shammies (for archimonde) |
| 09:18.15 | NeoTron | will add one to mark all tanks, mark all healers and stuff too but that requires looking at specs |
| 09:18.18 | haste | Industrial: dogfight D: |
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| 09:22.48 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63790 10MagicMarker/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:22.48 | CIA-9 | MagicMarker: |
| 09:22.49 | CIA-9 | - Ability to save snapshot of raid marks on the raid/party and then load them. Useful to mark only during phase 2 Illidan for example. |
| 09:22.49 | CIA-9 | - Started adding raid mark templates to mark all decursers/decursers+shammies (useful on Illidan) for example. More templates will be used. |
| 09:22.51 | CIA-9 | - Addon (auto-learning/marking) disabled outside instances. |
| 09:22.55 | CIA-9 | - Don't mark when targeting a unit. Need to either hold Alt+mouseover or use the key binding. |
| 09:24.06 | Ellipsis | gee, I wonder if NeoTron has been fighting Illidan at all lately |
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| 09:25.40 | nevcairiel | he just messed up his commit message, if you scroll up he said it right :P |
| 09:26.15 | Ellipsis | huh? |
| 09:26.29 | Ellipsis | I just meant, all his examples are from Illidan... |
| 09:26.50 | sacarasc | it's ok, Ellipsis, i understood you |
| 09:26.52 | nevcairiel | his second example should've been archimonde |
| 09:26.57 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: hehe |
| 09:26.59 | nevcairiel | he messed it up :P |
| 09:27.04 | Ellipsis | oh, ok |
| 09:27.12 | NeoTron | we just did and we had a new MT (was doing OT before) and a new OT |
| 09:27.17 | NeoTron | so we had a few eipes |
| 09:27.27 | NeoTron | and yeah I meant archi on the second one |
| 09:28.08 | NeoTron | was just an impulse to add it |
| 09:28.31 | NeoTron | like add a slash command to save a named template too |
| 09:28.40 | NeoTron | ofc only useful if you tend to raid with the same ppl all the time |
| 09:29.18 | NeoTron | I dunno if a raid snapshot is ever useful other than illidan p2 but hey it was easy :P |
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| 09:33.46 | Orionshock | ok.. magic marker... imo too complicated |
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| 09:38.44 | Suns | Hi |
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| 09:43.14 | NeoTron | yeah because holding one key down and waving it over some mobs is teh hardz |
| 09:44.04 | nevcairiel | you have to move your hand AND hold one key down .. thats too much for everyone!!11 |
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| 09:46.46 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r63791 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: .Babble-Fish-2.2: deDE typofix |
| 09:46.46 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63792 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.toc: MagicMarker: .toc change |
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| 09:48.20 | Snago | http://ace.pastey.net/83452 <-- Some lines from my last MH combat log with DR on Kaz'rogals War Stomp |
| 09:49.46 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r63793 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-deDE.lua: GatherMate: deDE typofix |
| 09:49.47 | Orionshock | ... |
| 09:52.00 | Orionshock | LOL AceEvent-2.0:305 error w/o a debug LOL |
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| 10:11.12 | zapl | ~seen bashui |
| 10:11.14 | purl | i haven't seen 'bashui', zapl |
| 10:17.25 | Xinhuan | so, our xfer rogue with a warglaive, xferred in an "alt warrior" that is just 3 pieces of gear behind as geared as our current MT |
| 10:17.27 | Xinhuan | T_T |
| 10:18.57 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63794 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (Button.lua ButtonStyle.lua): Bartender4: improve button handling with overlays |
| 10:18.59 | vhaarr | Orionshock: god you're such a nub |
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| 10:19.10 | Ellipsis | that's not nice vhaarr |
| 10:19.16 | [Ammo] | it's the truth! |
| 10:19.17 | Orionshock | eh? |
| 10:19.19 | Ellipsis | at least be honest with him and tell him he's a total failtard |
| 10:19.21 | Ellipsis | not just a nub :) |
| 10:19.23 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 10:19.42 | Grum | Xinhuan: lol |
| 10:19.44 | Grum | that hurts :D |
| 10:19.46 | Orionshock | -.- /wrists |
| 10:19.49 | Grum | how long has he been farming shit? :D |
| 10:19.58 | Xinhuan | avante garde |
| 10:20.04 | Xinhuan | that's how long |
| 10:20.31 | Xinhuan | "zomg who invited this warrior! alt with bulwark" |
| 10:20.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:21.58 | Grum | tbh, it must be boring to be farming Pillidan for that long |
| 10:22.19 | Xinhuan | we're 7-manning MC atm |
| 10:22.27 | FinalX | it is .. so boring that people are actually skipping out on raids to illi to farm badges in kara/za >.< |
| 10:22.31 | Xinhuan | and the firelords aren't doing the "blah blah spawns a fire elemental" thingy emote |
| 10:23.03 | nevcairiel | FinalX: soon illi will drop badges too! |
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| 10:24.50 | Grum | FinalX: dunno i'm just killing him since start of this year |
| 10:25.09 | Grum | and 2 day raidweeks instead of 5 was a welcome change |
| 10:25.18 | FinalX | hmhm |
| 10:25.31 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: you must be bored |
| 10:25.36 | FinalX | people in my scarshield guild cba to show up for BT raids because they're bored :o |
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| 10:26.23 | sacarasc | ;o |
| 10:26.26 | sacarasc | FinalX |
| 10:26.28 | sacarasc | hi |
| 10:27.40 | FinalX | hehe, hey sacarasc |
| 10:27.56 | sacarasc | sup, sir? |
| 10:27.57 | Elkano | wow, latest xkcd is just great |
| 10:28.07 | sacarasc | heh |
| 10:28.18 | FinalX | 2MB RAM without the Slot2 pack is just... what, 1980? |
| 10:28.39 | Suns | 80? no |
| 10:28.46 | Suns | more like 89/90 |
| 10:29.09 | sacarasc | i'd like a slot2 expansion for similar reasons, but i'm made of lazy and they're not easy to find |
| 10:29.32 | FinalX | XMS was around earlier, wasn't it? |
| 10:29.46 | FinalX | sure they are, deal-extreme.com, EZ-Flash V 3-in-1 |
| 10:30.19 | FinalX | that costs 20 euro's, and that's 16MB of RAM (Nintendo DS browser comes with 8MB for 44 euro's!), rumble pack and GBA thingy |
| 10:30.35 | sacarasc | interesting... |
| 10:31.00 | FinalX | there's other packs that get you 32MB RAM though |
| 10:32.47 | sacarasc | currently all my DS is used for is killing polygons in a manic fashion |
| 10:32.54 | sacarasc | <3 Geometry Wars |
| 10:34.53 | Suns | what's you score? |
| 10:35.16 | sacarasc | crap! |
| 10:35.24 | sacarasc | i suck at it, but it's fun |
| 10:35.26 | Suns | I just get 1,5M on the 360 :( |
| 10:35.33 | Suns | hehe, as I do |
| 10:36.04 | Suns | the particle effects are nice on a 42" LCD |
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| 10:36.33 | sacarasc | heh |
| 10:38.13 | zapl | wich lua version is used by wow? 5.1.1 -5.1.3? |
| 10:39.17 | Suns | looks like a modded version 5.1 |
| 10:39.22 | Suns | nothing official |
| 10:39.44 | Suns | 5.1.1 |
| 10:40.16 | zapl | thx |
| 10:40.21 | Suns | np |
| 10:41.08 | Suns | what's the typical way to commit code to an existing addon? |
| 10:41.35 | vhaarr | svn commit file1 file2 ... -m "Addon: Bugfix" |
| 10:42.14 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r63795 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 10:42.14 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 10:42.14 | CIA-9 | - Added an option to sort raid units by "Role". This method scans raid units |
| 10:42.14 | CIA-9 | talents and groups them into 5 buckets... Tank, Melee, Healer, Hybrid, Ranged. |
| 10:42.14 | CIA-9 | Hybrid is only used for paladins, druids, and shaman who don't spend 31 points |
| 10:42.16 | CIA-9 | in any tree (low levels). |
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| 10:42.41 | vhaarr | Suns: bad jokes aside, if you can get a hold of the author within a period of a few days, then ask him |
| 10:42.43 | vhaarr | if not |
| 10:42.44 | vhaarr | just commit |
| 10:43.02 | Suns | ok, thanks |
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| 10:43.20 | vhaarr | if he's not on irc then you should most likely just commit |
| 10:43.20 | Suns | how can I get SVN access or is it accessible public? |
| 10:43.28 | vhaarr | you must apply for it |
| 10:43.33 | Suns | ok, i see |
| 10:43.37 | vhaarr | there's some info on the wiki somewhere |
| 10:43.44 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63796 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBarPrototype.lua Bar.lua ButtonBar.lua): Bartender4: tweaks |
| 10:44.03 | Suns | Anyone here made BigBrother? ;) |
| 10:44.08 | vhaarr | I did |
| 10:44.13 | sacarasc | hehe |
| 10:44.15 | vhaarr | before other retards made it bloated |
| 10:44.22 | Suns | o.O |
| 10:44.25 | vhaarr | and turned it into an abomination |
| 10:44.35 | vhaarr | it was made by Cryect originally I think, and I helped him a bit |
| 10:44.43 | Ellipsis | ...when zombie code attacks? |
| 10:44.49 | vhaarr | rofl |
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| 10:45.30 | Ellipsis | I find the mental image of an undead addon eating vhaarr alive rather amusing, actually |
| 10:46.20 | Ellipsis | who's with me? |
| 10:46.20 | vhaarr | so after the code was raped repeatedly, I decided to make AuraToChat for the only part of it I used anyway |
| 10:47.28 | Ellipsis | I'd imagine it would smell awful, what with all the bit-rot |
| 10:47.44 | Suns | Do Undead Addons have Cannibalism? |
| 10:47.46 | vhaarr | and it would be fat in this case |
| 10:47.56 | vhaarr | and have lots of excess limbs |
| 10:48.02 | Suns | Regenerating Memroy by eating other Addons |
| 10:48.10 | vhaarr | Suns: so what about bigbrother? |
| 10:48.11 | Suns | memory |
| 10:48.14 | vhaarr | GIVE DIFFS |
| 10:48.41 | Suns | :) I'll prepare diffs and I am back in minute |
| 10:49.24 | vhaarr | mmm ... juicy code! |
| 10:50.10 | Ellipsis | http://www.simonsays.com/assets/isbn/1416939687/C_1416939687.jpg |
| 10:50.18 | Ellipsis | ...indeed...a striking resemblance |
| 10:50.57 | vhaarr | pff they retouched my photo, I'm a lot smaller |
| 10:51.08 | vhaarr | clever camera angles maybe |
| 10:51.14 | nevcairiel | its just a matter of perspective |
| 10:51.25 | Ellipsis | to a radish, I'm sure you look quite intimidating |
| 10:51.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:52.16 | vhaarr | I don't like hunting radishes, I can never tell if I'm scaring them or not |
| 10:53.40 | vhaarr | they taste good though |
| 10:53.54 | vhaarr | I had my first touch of summer a few days ago and actually made some blueberry jam |
| 10:54.51 | Ellipsis | mmm...blueberries |
| 10:59.15 | vhaarr | okay so the SCO group is going to appeal soon, that's interesting |
| 10:59.43 | TNSe | lol |
| 10:59.47 | vhaarr | I wonder who made that decision, and if he'll live to see the end of the trial |
| 10:59.54 | TNSe | still looking for that single non-shadowstep rogue in pvp the last 2 weeks |
| 11:02.44 | Ozguli | my rogue is riposte maces |
| 11:02.54 | thul | shadowstep > * |
| 11:02.58 | thul | it is so fun |
| 11:03.04 | thul | btw, anyone on ravencrest, eu? horde? |
| 11:03.44 | Ozguli | if I see a sstep rogue I have time to /yawn while casting instants |
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| 11:03.55 | Ozguli | and my gear is primal mooncloth |
| 11:04.19 | thul | cs, hemo, backstab, backstab, ks, youdie. |
| 11:04.29 | Hobby | vhaarr: Someone invested a lot of money in them recently, and one of the planned changes was to do that |
| 11:04.35 | jy | rogues still use daggers ? |
| 11:05.16 | jy | i thought melee daggers were made for mage and warlock to wear in shattrath |
| 11:05.22 | thul | well, I change between hemo-shadowstep and backstab-shadowstep in pvp :-P |
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| 11:05.32 | baer_ | moin. |
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| 11:09.41 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r63797 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 11:09.41 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 11:09.41 | CIA-9 | - Sunwell update |
| 11:10.13 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r63798 10AtlasLoot/Documentation/Release Notes.txt: |
| 11:10.13 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:10.13 | CIA-9 | - Release notes updated |
| 11:10.41 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r63799 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 11:10.41 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 11:10.41 | CIA-9 | - Lord Ahune updated |
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| 11:19.03 | Suns | vhaarr? I have some fresh and tasty code in this little diff files: http://www.file-upload.net/download-711147/BigBrother_Diffs_Suns_030708.zip.html |
| 11:19.15 | Suns | should be all |
| 11:19.40 | vhaarr | Suns: can you post them on pastey.net instead? |
| 11:19.56 | Suns | kk |
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| 11:22.47 | Suns | http://pastey.net/83454 |
| 11:23.29 | Suns | http://pastey.net/83455 |
| 11:23.39 | Suns | only have german localization so far |
| 11:24.15 | nevcairiel | SendChatMessage(message, "WHISPER", "Gemeinsprache", badguy); |
| 11:24.20 | nevcairiel | use nil as language |
| 11:24.37 | Suns | that was one of my next questions :) |
| 11:25.07 | Suns | thanks for the hint |
| 11:25.09 | nevcairiel | nil will always use the common language for that faction |
| 11:25.39 | nevcairiel | "Gemeinsprache" would only work for german-alliance players .. rather limited :P |
| 11:25.56 | Suns | hehe, all I need, but I agree ;) |
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| 11:26.31 | Suns | I am so new to wow addon programming. Always good to get some input like this. |
| 11:26.39 | vhaarr | well there are many things I could say about that patch |
| 11:26.52 | nevcairiel | be nice! |
| 11:26.54 | vhaarr | but I'm sure you copied from some other BB code |
| 11:26.57 | vhaarr | so I'll do what nev said |
| 11:27.07 | vhaarr | and say that it looks "fine" |
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| 11:27.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:28.02 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowwiki.com/Morals_and_ethics_of_paladin_tanking |
| 11:28.05 | Xinhuan | i just came across this hehe |
| 11:28.54 | vhaarr | lol, I didn't know there was an ethical aspect to it |
| 11:29.00 | Bruners | anyone that want to take a guess what font is used for chat here? http://ui.ipwn.se/i/174.jpg |
| 11:29.00 | vhaarr | or moral |
| 11:30.11 | Suns | can I ask you guys some wow api question? |
| 11:30.17 | vhaarr | yes you can |
| 11:31.05 | Suns | I was looking for a method to find out what the owner of a pet is, by the pet's name in String |
| 11:31.40 | vhaarr | Suns: the most reliable way to do that as of now is to use RosterLib |
| 11:31.41 | Xinhuan | the only known method to do so when the pet in question isn't in your party/raid, is to parse the tooltip when you mouseover it ;p |
| 11:31.55 | vhaarr | Suns: which is already used there in your patch |
| 11:32.10 | Xinhuan | so depending on how and what purpose |
| 11:32.21 | Xinhuan | are you talking about pets in your raid/party? or enemy pets? |
| 11:32.24 | Xinhuan | mob pets? |
| 11:32.34 | Suns | playerpets |
| 11:32.47 | Xinhuan | yeah enemy players? friendly players? in party, raid? |
| 11:32.53 | Xinhuan | outside party, raid? |
| 11:32.56 | nevcairiel | raidplayers |
| 11:33.00 | nevcairiel | pay attenation! :p |
| 11:33.04 | nevcairiel | -a |
| 11:33.07 | Suns | exactly |
| 11:33.17 | Xinhuan | he didn't say that |
| 11:33.20 | Suns | pets of friendly raidplayers |
| 11:34.07 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: it was pretty logical guessing from the topic before :) |
| 11:34.13 | Xinhuan | well you can do UnitName("raid1pet") UnitName("raid2pet") etc etc all the way to 40 and figure out the name of each player's pet and store it in a table |
| 11:34.21 | Xinhuan | rosterlib does this for you in a convenient library |
| 11:34.25 | Xinhuan | as mentioned above |
| 11:35.12 | nevcairiel | BB uses roster anyway already |
| 11:35.26 | Suns | yep, that's perfect |
| 11:35.30 | Suns | thanks |
| 11:38.16 | Xinhuan | >.> <.< T_T |
| 11:38.36 | Xinhuan | garr and geddon dropped double arcanist ;p |
| 11:38.47 | Xinhuan | quick strike ring |
| 11:38.48 | nevcairiel | yay for your t1? |
| 11:38.53 | Xinhuan | and salamnder pants |
| 11:39.17 | Suns | no "quest item" ;) |
| 11:39.38 | Xinhuan | then we totally forgot corehounds respawn every 18 minutes hehe |
| 11:39.42 | Xinhuan | someone afked behind and died |
| 11:39.52 | Xinhuan | in garr room |
| 11:40.56 | Suns | vhaarr, would you suggest that I apply for an SVN access if I plan to add more stuff to what I already did? |
| 11:41.12 | Bruners | http://ui.ipwn.se/i/174.jpg could this be ABF? |
| 11:41.22 | vhaarr | Suns: yeah |
| 11:41.33 | nevcairiel | looks like ABF layout |
| 11:42.08 | Suns | cool, unfortunately I do not really use emails, but i'll make an exeption here :) |
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| 11:55.23 | Suns | ok, email sent |
| 11:58.33 | Snago | Suns: Don't sit and wear out your refresh button. It usually takes a few days+ :P |
| 12:01.15 | Suns | hehe, np |
| 12:01.48 | Suns | i am quite happy that it is possible anyway |
| 12:01.59 | Suns | thanks for your help so far |
| 12:02.01 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63800 10BananaDKP/type/Symphony.lua: BananaDKP: Query up to 10 DKP values at a time from the host. |
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| 12:15.54 | nevcairiel | ~seen Tuller |
| 12:15.55 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 10h 37m 36s ago, saying: 'err gorilla'. |
| 12:16.32 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63801 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Bugfix. |
| 12:16.36 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 12:17.14 | Suns | that is a short release cycle :D |
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| 12:25.43 | TNSe | its insane |
| 12:26.06 | TNSe | all rogues are freaking shadowstep because of the 99% bug :P |
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| 12:26.11 | frop | hello |
| 12:26.38 | frop | anyone know something similar to PerfomanceFU? |
| 12:26.38 | Grum | 99% bug? |
| 12:27.02 | TNSe | yes, after a blow that would normally kill you rogues who spec for cheat death take 1% damage instead of 10% |
| 12:27.53 | Grum | mm |
| 12:28.04 | Ellipsis | frop: it depends what you're looking for, the overall stats or the per-addon numbers |
| 12:28.25 | frop | well, i'm experiencing lagspikes |
| 12:28.41 | Ellipsis | yes, performancefu can do that to you |
| 12:28.42 | frop | so i guess a per-addon numbers one could be better |
| 12:29.18 | frop | ooh...for now i need to test grid-manabars/pitbull/performanceFU |
| 12:29.42 | frop | reading the forum these are giving lagspikes seems |
| 12:30.04 | Ellipsis | the pitbull problem was fixed |
| 12:30.04 | frop | s/are giving/could give/ |
| 12:30.17 | Ellipsis | with performancefu, the lag spikes will go away if you disable "show addon usage" |
| 12:30.20 | Ellipsis | that's a quick and easy way to test |
| 12:30.29 | frop | will do |
| 12:30.41 | Ellipsis | I believe the grid manabars issue happens only in a raid, when people are dying....most noticable when you're wiping and such |
| 12:30.43 | frop | in ssc/tk i got 6/7 seconds long lag spikes |
| 12:31.00 | frop | and they happens during fights |
| 12:31.23 | frop | yeasterday i get 5/6 DCs on LootReaver fight... |
| 12:31.28 | frop | ...i also died :( |
| 12:31.49 | Ellipsis | what kind of lag spikes? network lag or your game actually freezes? |
| 12:32.00 | frop | game freeze |
| 12:32.12 | frop | ...and sometimes on return i got DCed |
| 12:32.21 | Ellipsis | hmm, that is pretty bad |
| 12:32.25 | frop | freezes for 6/7 seconds |
| 12:32.32 | Ellipsis | did it just start happening recently? |
| 12:32.39 | frop | latency is something like 250ms |
| 12:32.41 | frop | nope |
| 12:32.44 | frop | it's a bit |
| 12:32.54 | frop | mostry after 2.2.x |
| 12:33.29 | frop | and raiding is kinda hard that way |
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| 12:34.32 | frop | and it's why i'm asking for a performanceFU replacement...maybe even non-ace |
| 12:34.50 | frop | read in a post about OptionHouse...but i cannot find it |
| 12:34.57 | Ellipsis | hmm...does performancefu not work for you or something? |
| 12:35.20 | frop | it works...but as i need to track ace mods... |
| 12:35.41 | Ellipsis | ...? |
| 12:35.49 | frop | ...well, it was written in that post...and i'm so desperate that i'll try everything rly |
| 12:36.30 | Tuikku | anyone know if there is an addon that will show what quests your other chars have? |
| 12:36.56 | frop | [quote]if you think about it - doesn't make sense to check ace2 performance with an ace2 mod[/quote] |
| 12:37.10 | phyber | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2460.msg187732#msg187732 |
| 12:37.23 | phyber | Does my explanation for TopScoreFu breaking for some people seem OK? I suck at explaining things. |
| 12:38.07 | phyber | it pretty much says "blame darkimakuni". |
| 12:38.58 | Ellipsis | frop: to some extent you're right, but only if you use embedded libraries...in which case no performance addon will be accurate anyway |
| 12:41.03 | frop | i'm not using embedded |
| 12:41.15 | frop | ...and btw, was just a quote from a forum's post |
| 12:42.10 | frop | btw, thank you, wil try to turn off some of these mods...it's a bit i'm trying to spot the fucker addon :) |
| 12:42.24 | frop | ...well i hope it's an addon... |
| 12:43.03 | Suns | are you using mobmap? |
| 12:43.28 | frop | nope |
| 12:43.50 | frop | i'll try to use BigWigs instead of dbm too |
| 12:44.03 | Suns | <3 BigWigs |
| 12:44.05 | frop | ...i saw lots of messages from dbm too |
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| 12:46.39 | root__ | hi all |
| 12:47.02 | vhaarr | don't IRC as root :P |
| 12:48.01 | frop | never |
| 12:48.03 | Ellipsis | don't most clients warn you if you try to? |
| 12:48.10 | frop | some |
| 12:48.29 | *** join/#wowace Orphis_ (n=Orphis@pra13-1-82-66-188-82.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:48.35 | frop | mostly text-irc-clients :) |
| 12:48.38 | Coeba | i need littke help i want to develop a fubar/ace addon for my guilde for managing raid place attribution and i dont find tutorial or other doc for the base squeleton of the addon |
| 12:48.57 | frop | wowwiki can help ya |
| 12:49.07 | Coeba | no find on it |
| 12:49.10 | vhaarr | http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 12:49.12 | Grum | also, dont irc as root =D |
| 12:49.31 | vhaarr | and look at the code for some simple fubar addon |
| 12:50.26 | Orphis_ | Do someone know how libperiodictable item's are updated ? |
| 12:50.31 | haste | Grum: I think he/she is actually logged as root (And in X) |
| 12:50.37 | vhaarr | Orphis_: command line lua script |
| 12:50.45 | vhaarr | he is |
| 12:50.48 | vhaarr | using chatZillla |
| 12:50.50 | vhaarr | -l |
| 12:51.10 | Coeba | in this i dont find the squeleton for fubar , i have tryed to use a fubar addon for help me , but my button don t appear |
| 12:51.24 | Grum | uhoh :D |
| 12:51.37 | Orphis_ | vhaarr, I guess that script datamines the data from something like wowace, isn't it ? |
| 12:51.39 | Grum | i think you must have a virus in your pc coeba |
| 12:51.51 | Grum | one that will blow up your whole pc! |
| 12:51.54 | vhaarr | Orphis_: wowhead |
| 12:52.10 | Orphis_ | Yeah wowhead, I mistyped it -_- |
| 12:52.18 | Ellipsis | hackers can turn your computer into a bomb, you know! |
| 12:52.22 | Orphis_ | Well, the reputation loots are not really updated |
| 12:52.39 | Grum | Ellipsis: they will intarbomb the webs |
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| 12:52.45 | Suns | o.O |
| 12:52.57 | Coeba | this is my code ( necroassist = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
| 12:52.58 | Coeba | local necroassist = necroassist |
| 12:52.59 | Coeba | --~ FubarStuff |
| 12:53.01 | Coeba | necroassist.version = "1" |
| 12:53.02 | Coeba | necroassist.hasIcon = true |
| 12:53.04 | Coeba | necroassist.hideWithoutStandby = true |
| 12:53.05 | Grum | NOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 12:53.06 | Coeba | necroassist.defaultPosition = MINIMAP |
| 12:53.07 | Grum | STOP PASTING! |
| 12:53.07 | Coeba | necroassist.clickableTooltip = true |
| 12:53.08 | Grum | kick! |
| 12:53.08 | Suns | :) |
| 12:53.08 | Coeba | necroassist.name = "necroassist" |
| 12:53.09 | Grum | FASTER |
| 12:53.10 | Coeba | --~ End Fubar Stuff |
| 12:53.10 | Suns | hahaha |
| 12:53.12 | Coeba | function necroassist:OnInitialize() |
| 12:53.13 | Coeba | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.13 | *** kick/#wowace [Coeba!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 12:53.21 | Grum | \o/ |
| 12:53.31 | Ellipsis | ahaha that makes an epic sound on ck's client |
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| 12:53.50 | Grum | Coeba2: dont paste into this channel |
| 12:53.53 | Grum | never ever |
| 12:53.55 | Suns | pasting code in IRC != good idea |
| 12:54.02 | frop | lol |
| 12:54.03 | frop | :D |
| 12:54.15 | Coeba2 | okay but its not a raison for kick me lol |
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| 12:54.18 | Ellipsis | tell me he didn't reconnect to rejoin |
| 12:54.19 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63802 10kgPanels/kgPanels.toc: kgPanels: added license clause |
| 12:54.19 | Grum | it is |
| 12:54.24 | Grum | because after you send you can not stop |
| 12:54.26 | Ellipsis | Coeba2: you were spamming |
| 12:54.28 | Coeba2 | advertise me just |
| 12:54.28 | Grum | and we have to endure all the crap |
| 12:54.49 | Ellipsis | Coeba2: the problem with your code is you're not including fubarplugin with your mixins |
| 12:55.07 | Coeba2 | how to put in ?? |
| 12:55.23 | Orphis_ | vhaarr, there's nothing in the dataminer for reputation loot ! |
| 12:55.28 | Suns | why not look at a simple FuBar Plugin? |
| 12:56.14 | Coeba2 | i have tryed , but when i include in the fist line it tell me in wow the library don t existe |
| 12:56.55 | Ellipsis | you need to OptDep it, and/or embed it if you're using embedded libs |
| 12:57.01 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r63803 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 12:57.01 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 12:57.02 | CIA-9 | - Fix to not lose registered layouts |
| 12:57.19 | Suns | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBarPlugin-2.0 ? |
| 13:00.36 | Orphis_ | And the reputation loots are in wowhead... so I guess I'll have to update the dataminer myself |
| 13:01.07 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63804 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: aded a second check for nil deps |
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| 13:05.12 | Suns | Have to leave. ttyl |
| 13:07.34 | Dave^ | mh, is there a API for accessing the wowhead Data? |
| 13:08.12 | Coeba2 | i have tryed to put the lib fubar and declare it in the lua and the toc and it allways tell the fubarplugin2.0 don t exist ?? |
| 13:08.31 | Ellipsis | make sure you're loading fubarplugin before your addon's code runs |
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| 13:11.15 | Orphis_ | vhaarr, do you know why reputation loot is not fetched by the dataminer ? Is there any problem with the loot on wowhead ? |
| 13:11.33 | vhaarr | I have no idea |
| 13:14.51 | FtH|Daemona | Dave^ you can pull the xml from wowhead similar to the armory |
| 13:15.08 | FtH|Daemona | just check out all those item-tooltip forum mods |
| 13:15.41 | iNs|Renew | Is there a light weight option to bartender? or is it fairly lightweight? |
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| 13:16.06 | Nandini | there is a light weight option, it's called blizzard action bars |
| 13:16.06 | Ellipsis | bongos |
| 13:16.22 | nevcairiel | if one thing, then bongos is not more lightweight =P |
| 13:16.24 | Nandini | if those aren't good enough, stick with bartender :P |
| 13:16.42 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: the action bar part of it is imo, but I can see how you might disagree |
| 13:17.28 | nevcairiel | it has essentially the same feature set |
| 13:17.36 | nevcairiel | (the actionbar part) |
| 13:17.51 | nevcairiel | only that bt3 code is more dynamic and not hardcoded like bongos |
| 13:17.51 | Ellipsis | pretty sure the feature set wasn't the topic of discussion :) |
| 13:18.18 | Nandini | nevcairiel: thanks for the independent scaling of gathermate pins btw, now when i blow up minimapcluster to 400% for mining, the pins stay normal size |
| 13:18.38 | iNs|Renew | LibSharedMedia-3.0 has 0 textures? |
| 13:18.46 | Nandini | it's a library |
| 13:18.58 | nevcairiel | get "SharedMedia" if you want texture |
| 13:19.02 | iNs|Renew | ok |
| 13:19.12 | iNs|Renew | thought it was the same thing but updated |
| 13:19.18 | Nandini | someone needs to rename "SharedMedia" to "MediaPack" or something |
| 13:21.09 | Coeba2 | i m lost :( i have tryed allways i think and id tell don t exist ...... |
| 13:21.45 | TNSe | still hven't found a rogue today that isnt shadowstep specced |
| 13:22.47 | Coeba2 | annyone wan t too take a look on my base code ?? |
| 13:22.48 | Nandini | Coeba2: try pasting your code at http://ace.pastey.net and then linking to it in here |
| 13:23.00 | Coeba2 | okey thks |
| 13:23.04 | Nandini | someone smart (not me) may be able to help you |
| 13:23.36 | p3lim | will there be a MobHealth for ace3? |
| 13:23.47 | nevcairiel | you can use the old MobHealth just fine |
| 13:23.55 | p3lim | yeah but im just wondering :) |
| 13:23.57 | Nandini | the old one seems to be fine |
| 13:25.05 | Nandini | is there something you think mobhealth would gain from being converted to ace3? |
| 13:25.29 | Coeba2 | okay the link is http://ace.pastey.net/83460 |
| 13:25.48 | Coeba2 | thks for your help |
| 13:26.00 | Xinhuan | hehe finally completed za timed run with 4 minutes to spare :D |
| 13:26.05 | Xinhuan | i rolled a 8 :< |
| 13:26.08 | Nandini | grats! |
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| 13:27.54 | Zeksie | we missed it by 90 secs last time >< |
| 13:28.31 | Nandini | would mobhealth benefit from any improvements in registering for events in ace3? it seems now mobhealth would give better estimates in 2.4 by just monitoring the combat log |
| 13:29.32 | Zeksie | doubt it. it's a very simple mod, just watches stuff, and provides a query function. |
| 13:29.34 | Nandini | i guess it would still need to know when a mob is engaged and what health it's at to start with |
| 13:30.26 | CIA-9 | 03nemes * r63805 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.toc: |
| 13:30.26 | CIA-9 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 13:30.26 | CIA-9 | - no need to reference LibStub in the .toc in OptionalDeps or X-Embeds as all LibStub'd libraries include it |
| 13:31.25 | Coeba2 | someone can take a look on my base code and tell me where is the matter ? http://ace.pastey.net/83460 |
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| 13:31.51 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63806 10kgPanelsConfig/ (Locales/kgPanels-enUS.lua PanelHelper.lua kgPanelsConfig.toc): kgPanelsConfig: added a rename function |
| 13:32.16 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63807 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: tweak |
| 13:33.27 | CIA-9 | 03nemes * r63808 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.toc: |
| 13:33.27 | CIA-9 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 13:33.27 | CIA-9 | - Don't include LibStub in OptionalDeps as it is actually included with this library |
| 13:35.45 | Josh_Borke | Coeba2: don't list your file first, include the files you need first |
| 13:35.47 | Josh_Borke | ie, libraries |
| 13:35.48 | Josh_Borke | in the toc |
| 13:36.33 | Coeba2 | okay i go try thx |
| 13:39.45 | Ellipsis | anyone remember the cvar to turn off sound at character, now that they removed it from the sound options? |
| 13:39.46 | Coeba2 | i have made this change but allways same erroe :( http://ace.pastey.net/83461 |
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| 13:42.25 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r63809 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 13:42.25 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 13:42.25 | CIA-9 | - Small fix to initiate LayoutUpdate if the Role layout changed during a RosterUpdate. |
| 13:42.27 | Josh_Borke | ok, now it's time to give us the error |
| 13:43.27 | pastamancer | I'll bet it's because he's not using AceDB and the fubarplugin doesn't have anywhere to store its settings |
| 13:43.40 | Coeba2 | it say 1. "fubarplugin2.0" doesn t exist |
| 13:45.52 | Coeba2 | i think the error is in the first line in the lua but i can t see where |
| 13:46.43 | zapl | do you actually have Libs/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua ? |
| 13:47.25 | Coeba2 | it say 1.inteface/addon/necroassit/necroassist.lua "fubarplugin2.0" library doesn t exist and yes it s in the rep |
| 13:49.12 | Ellipsis | Coeba2: is your libs folder "Libs" or "libs"? you use both in the toc |
| 13:49.58 | Coeba2 | is Libs |
| 13:50.51 | Ellipsis | did you restart WoW completely after changing the order of files in the toc? |
| 13:51.12 | Coeba2 | yes i reload wow at any change |
| 13:51.24 | pastamancer | that's not the same |
| 13:51.32 | pastamancer | wow doesn't see new files when you reload |
| 13:51.48 | pastamancer | only when you exit out all the way and start it up again |
| 13:52.24 | Coeba2 | i reload allaways i quit and not deco and restart |
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| 13:53.48 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63810 10Bartender4/Bartender4/Button.lua: Bartender4: tweak OnUpdate code, now uses ~30-40% less CPU then Bartender3 |
| 13:55.20 | Fisker- | gogo trunk soon nevcairiel :< |
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| 13:56.26 | Coeba2 | i have found the matter lol its because not have the Dewdrop-2.0 libs |
| 13:56.35 | Coeba2 | thanks for your halp |
| 13:56.38 | Coeba2 | help |
| 13:56.52 | Coeba2 | now i have my icon ;) |
| 13:57.00 | elusif | there is a guy on our realm called 'kneegro' and someone asked in trade how he got that name past blizz and i said this was because even if his name were negro it would not be racist as it's an actualk word used in anthropology |
| 13:57.05 | elusif | *48 hour ban* |
| 13:57.08 | elusif | motherfuckers! |
| 13:57.34 | nevcairiel | you got banned? |
| 13:57.35 | nevcairiel | or he? |
| 13:58.00 | elusif | i got banned |
| 13:58.07 | vhaarr | hahaha |
| 13:58.07 | pastamancer | reported! |
| 13:58.10 | elusif | lol |
| 13:58.15 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 13:58.18 | Fisker- | he should be banned though |
| 13:58.22 | elusif | why? |
| 13:58.27 | elusif | negro isn't a racist word |
| 13:58.34 | doc^bla | you'd never get banned on eu realms for that^^ |
| 13:58.40 | elusif | i'm on an eu realm |
| 13:58.46 | vhaarr | really? |
| 13:58.52 | vhaarr | I just assumed it was US as well |
| 13:59.02 | elusif | it's as racist as the word 'black' |
| 13:59.02 | doc^bla | must be a negro gm then! |
| 13:59.04 | Fisker- | It's a defamatory word |
| 13:59.12 | elusif | it is *not* a defamatory word |
| 13:59.18 | jy | banned for spamming trade ! |
| 13:59.20 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 13:59.28 | elusif | that's like saying caucasian (sp) is a defamatory word |
| 13:59.36 | Ellipsis | banned for inappropriate thoughts about Fisker- |
| 13:59.37 | Fisker- | No not really |
| 13:59.39 | Ellipsis | oh wait...that was me |
| 13:59.42 | elusif | yes really |
| 13:59.47 | Fisker- | Nigger is also considered defamatory |
| 13:59.52 | elusif | of course |
| 13:59.56 | elusif | but i did not say nigger. |
| 14:00.08 | elusif | i said negro |
| 14:00.14 | Fisker- | Yes |
| 14:00.17 | Fisker- | But it's the same thing |
| 14:00.24 | Fisker- | Niger = Latin for black = Nigger |
| 14:00.25 | elusif | all dictionaries definie it as a word used in anthropology |
| 14:00.43 | elusif | they don't show anything defamatory |
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| 14:00.46 | jy | Niger is a country ! |
| 14:00.50 | Fisker- | Negro(Kneegro/kneegrow as it's also nicknamed) = spanish for black = Nigger |
| 14:01.06 | elusif | i am not spanish |
| 14:01.10 | elusif | and i did not say nigger |
| 14:01.13 | elusif | i said negro |
| 14:01.22 | Fisker- | Infact the fact it's "kneegro" or "kneegrow" just further proves the point that it is a defamatory word as they would've used the term negro instead then |
| 14:01.24 | Fisker- | Yes |
| 14:01.27 | Fisker- | and learn2read |
| 14:01.31 | Fisker- | Negro = Nigger = Black |
| 14:01.36 | elusif | ya |
| 14:01.41 | elusif | that's not true |
| 14:01.46 | Fisker- | Nigger is offensive, so is Negro |
| 14:01.47 | elusif | negro = nigger |
| 14:01.50 | elusif | lies! |
| 14:01.59 | elusif | negro != nigger |
| 14:02.08 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63811 10Bartender4/Bartender4/Button.lua: Bartender4: use some more upvalues |
| 14:02.16 | Fisker- | Kneegrow and Kneegro is even a play on the word Negro |
| 14:02.31 | elusif | i didn't say kneegro |
| 14:02.35 | elusif | i said negro |
| 14:02.42 | Fisker- | AND IT DOES NOT MATTER |
| 14:02.47 | Fisker- | NEGRO = NIGGER = KNEEGROW = KNEEGRO |
| 14:02.48 | pastamancer | In the US, it would be considered offensive. |
| 14:02.54 | elusif | negro is the technical term in anthropology to describe people from the sub african district |
| 14:02.55 | Fisker- | And the name you talked about was "Kneegro" |
| 14:03.00 | elusif | like caucasian is white people |
| 14:03.20 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro |
| 14:03.22 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger |
| 14:03.24 | Fisker- | !care(); |
| 14:03.27 | Fisker- | You believe what you believe |
| 14:03.28 | elusif | ok so if i can't call black people the technical term |
| 14:03.30 | Fisker- | i believe wikipedia |
| 14:03.33 | elusif | am i allowed to even call them black? |
| 14:03.38 | pastamancer | that's cool |
| 14:03.38 | Fisker- | also make a topic on the forums if you are in doubt |
| 14:04.10 | elusif | isthe word black offensive to you Fisker? |
| 14:04.10 | Nandini | would Cockasian be okay for a name then? it's a play on Caucasian |
| 14:04.11 | Fisker- | Negro, Kneegro, Kneegrow or Nigger won't get accepted on the EU realms |
| 14:04.16 | Snago | lua> "negro" == "nigger" |
| 14:04.17 | lua_bot | Snago: false |
| 14:04.21 | Nandini | but i'm sure some asians would be offended |
| 14:04.30 | Fisker- | elusif what i believe is not the point |
| 14:04.38 | Ellipsis | can't we all just agree that <insert race> smell funny and get on with it? |
| 14:04.40 | evl | The best racist name ever |
| 14:04.42 | elusif | well it is if you're part of the problem |
| 14:04.44 | evl | Moohammed |
| 14:04.44 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=18535&sid=1 <-go ahead and prove me wrong |
| 14:04.45 | evl | :D |
| 14:04.49 | Fisker- | Get your 48 hour ban lifted as well |
| 14:05.09 | elusif | i can't they want the answer to my secret question but they won't tell me what the question is |
| 14:05.43 | elusif | Fisker all i need to prove you wrong is for you to look up the word in a dictionary |
| 14:06.03 | Fisker- | No not really |
| 14:06.13 | Fisker- | Negro has just as offensively been used as nigger have |
| 14:06.27 | elusif | ya really |
| 14:06.38 | Fisker- | and in the case with kneegro it's an obvious derogatory play on the word to avoid filters |
| 14:06.48 | mykx | ... who cares |
| 14:06.50 | elusif | if ignorant people are offended by a word which is not offensive that's their problem |
| 14:06.57 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63812 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0: Get a more descriptive message for this new error that we can't track down. |
| 14:07.00 | Fisker- | nigger isn't offensive either then |
| 14:07.07 | elusif | of course it is |
| 14:07.09 | Fisker- | no it's not |
| 14:07.10 | elusif | nigger is very offensive |
| 14:07.12 | Fisker- | end of discussion. |
| 14:07.14 | elusif | but i didn't say nigger |
| 14:07.26 | Fisker- | It has the same meaning and abuse |
| 14:07.29 | elusif | negro is not offensive accept to retards who get offended by word like 'black'. |
| 14:07.31 | Fisker- | i don't care what you said |
| 14:07.47 | Fisker- | And it wasn't negro, it was kneegro |
| 14:07.49 | elusif | that's only because you misunderstand its definition. |
| 14:07.53 | elusif | i never said kneegro |
| 14:07.54 | EvilJohn | see |
| 14:07.58 | elusif | i told you i said 'negro'. |
| 14:07.59 | EvilJohn | here's the thing |
| 14:08.12 | EvilJohn | you don't get to define what's offensive to other people |
| 14:08.21 | doc^bla | blizz can ban you for whatever they want |
| 14:08.29 | EvilJohn | how you view the word is irrelevant |
| 14:08.29 | Fisker- | Oh |
| 14:08.35 | Fisker- | So i was right |
| 14:08.37 | elusif | i view the word correctly |
| 14:08.42 | Fisker- | Blizzard banned you for using Negro |
| 14:08.42 | Fisker- | haha |
| 14:08.44 | Fisker- | good job |
| 14:08.56 | elusif | anyone who is offended by should learn to read |
| 14:09.02 | elusif | and open a dictionary sometime |
| 14:09.15 | Fisker- | It's not any different from the term nigger |
| 14:09.48 | elusif | tell me this |
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| 14:10.02 | elusif | is the united negro college fund a racist organisation putting black people through college? |
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| 14:10.18 | elusif | those bastards! |
| 14:10.21 | elusif | ... |
| 14:10.56 | pastamancer | they get a pass because of context |
| 14:11.02 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.04 | Fisker- | those bastards! |
| 14:11.12 | pastamancer | I'll bet you couldn't make a guild with that name in wow though |
| 14:11.28 | elusif | from wikipedia which you told me to read |
| 14:11.29 | elusif | In current English language usage, "Negro" is generally considered acceptable in a historical context or in the name of older organizations, as in Negro spirituals, the United Negro College Fund or the Journal of Negro Education. |
| 14:12.13 | Fisker- | 48 hour ban = i win |
| 14:12.14 | Fisker- | bai |
| 14:12.16 | elusif | lol |
| 14:12.17 | EvilJohn | "Now it is often considered an ethnic slur[1][2][3]" |
| 14:12.22 | EvilJohn | from the same article |
| 14:12.26 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 14:12.28 | elusif | often |
| 14:12.32 | elusif | but not always |
| 14:12.37 | elusif | i wasn't using it as a slur |
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| 14:12.55 | elusif | you win at being to pc Fisker- |
| 14:13.05 | Nandini | it doesn't matter if a name is offensive or not, if it has ANY racial/ethnic connotations (positive, negative, or neutral) blizzard deems it unacceptable |
| 14:13.07 | Fisker- | And you could still say the same about Nigger |
| 14:13.19 | Nandini | now whether you should be banned for your remark is another matter |
| 14:13.21 | elusif | i imagine you're the sort of person that would push a school board to change the name from black board to chalk board |
| 14:13.49 | Fisker- | we don't have chalkboards |
| 14:14.05 | elusif | are you black Fisker? |
| 14:14.10 | Nandini | we actually have whiteboards. LOL |
| 14:14.22 | Fisker- | oh yes Nandini |
| 14:14.23 | elusif | i am offended :) |
| 14:14.27 | EvilJohn | at my office we have whiteboard, but personally I'm i'm leading a charge to rename that all "Crackerboards" |
| 14:14.33 | Fisker- | No i'm not |
| 14:14.38 | EvilJohn | cause cracker is just a type of crunchy treat |
| 14:15.03 | Fisker- | also chalkboards are green not black :P |
| 14:15.08 | Fisker- | atleast the ones i've seen |
| 14:15.12 | Nandini | i'm not black, but my wife is, and let me tell you, she can be very sensitive depending on the tone of someone's voice or the look in their eye or how well she knows them |
| 14:15.16 | EvilJohn | depends on how old your school is |
| 14:15.19 | nevcairiel | they're still called black board =P |
| 14:15.26 | elusif | it's evident you haven't seen much Fisker |
| 14:15.31 | EvilJohn | blackboards were phased out for green ones in the late 70s |
| 14:15.31 | Nandini | and when you're online, you don't have any of those non-verbal clues |
| 14:15.49 | elusif | would she be offended if we were discussing the english language |
| 14:16.02 | elusif | and i said 'the word negro is a real word used in anthropology' |
| 14:16.11 | elusif | and say we were talking about racism |
| 14:16.40 | Nandini | i just asked her, she said Kneegro is not a play on words, but rather a mockery of her ethnicity |
| 14:16.53 | *** join/#wowace Eireocean (n=glass@41-195-74-239.access.uunet.co.za) |
| 14:16.54 | vhaarr | or it could be an actual name |
| 14:17.27 | *** join/#wowace robotusch (n=robotusc@50A2DA32.flatrate.dk) |
| 14:17.30 | vhaarr | or just a coincidence that it resembles "negro" |
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| 14:17.47 | Ellipsis | coulda been one of the randomly generated names |
| 14:18.06 | vhaarr | Nandini: your wife is too sensitive, whoever made that nick it's possible he didn't even realise that it resembled "negro" |
| 14:18.21 | Nandini | it could be, but you can't tell any of that from just looking at it, everyone's obvious first assumption is that it is "negro" (and if it's not, you're stupidly naive) |
| 14:18.26 | vhaarr | keep in mind that english is not everyones native language |
| 14:18.34 | elusif | Nandini I didn't say kneegro on wow |
| 14:18.35 | Nandini | how many finnish people play wow? :P |
| 14:18.49 | Nandini | yes that's why i said you getting banned for your comment was silly |
| 14:18.53 | elusif | i just said 'even if his name were 'negro' it wouldn't be offensive as it's a word used in anthropology' |
| 14:18.57 | Fisker- | vhaarr that doesn't matter much in the context of Blizzard's policies |
| 14:19.08 | Fisker- | if you make a offensive name in swedish you could be chinese for all blizzard cares |
| 14:19.11 | Fisker- | it was still offensive |
| 14:19.11 | Fisker- | = ban |
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| 14:19.14 | vhaarr | Fisker-: I agree, but I still think people are too sensitive if they are offended by it |
| 14:19.25 | elusif | i can't dispute the ban because the want the answer to my secret question which they won't ask |
| 14:19.33 | Nandini | my wife says you are not sensitive enough vhaarr |
| 14:19.36 | elusif | lol what question? i opened my account ahes ago :) |
| 14:19.38 | elusif | *ages |
| 14:19.58 | Fisker- | It wouldn't do you any good |
| 14:20.08 | Nandini | at least not sensitive enough to get along well in the U.S. :) |
| 14:20.19 | vhaarr | Nandini: it's not about being sensitive or not, it's about being sensible and realistic |
| 14:20.36 | Ellipsis | not sensitive enough to get in an american woman's pants, at that |
| 14:20.59 | vhaarr | haha, where did that one come from :P |
| 14:21.03 | elusif | nandini does she find it as offensive as the other n word? |
| 14:21.13 | Ellipsis | well aren't girls supposed to like "sensitive" guys? :P |
| 14:21.27 | elusif | would you sleep with a sensitve guy Ellipsis? :D |
| 14:21.29 | Ellipsis | that's what sprang to mind when I read: [6:18:59 am] <Nandini> my wife says you are not sensitive enough vhaarr |
| 14:21.31 | Nandini | elusif: yes |
| 14:21.34 | Wobin | I hear vhaarr can go at it like a bunny. |
| 14:21.36 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 14:21.36 | elusif | ok ty |
| 14:21.36 | Arrowmaster | im a cold hearted bastard and ive pulled that one off |
| 14:21.45 | Ellipsis | elusif: probably not, I don't go much for what normal girls like |
| 14:21.55 | vhaarr | Nandini: okay so a threesome is out of the question then, I guess |
| 14:21.59 | elusif | oh you're a girl? my bad |
| 14:22.04 | EvilJohn | having the character name is should just be a forced rename, activelly workign around the name filter though is probably what gets the ban |
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| 14:22.16 | Ellipsis | ...I'm going to assume that's an honest mistake and not an attempted insult |
| 14:22.24 | Ellipsis | so yes, I am female |
| 14:22.30 | elusif | i had to change my bank name from sluttbank |
| 14:22.37 | elusif | which is fair enough |
| 14:22.41 | elusif | *slutty even |
| 14:22.50 | Arrowmaster | bloodelf? |
| 14:23.00 | elusif | some guy in the UK just released a book called 'my booky wooky' |
| 14:23.13 | elusif | so i had to think o f a new bank name so i just put it 'mybankywanky' |
| 14:23.16 | elusif | 24 hour ban |
| 14:23.23 | Ellipsis | though I have to say...I might sleep with vhaarr if the conditions were right |
| 14:23.29 | Ellipsis | pending pix |
| 14:23.35 | Nandini | i can kind of understand you being banned temporarily if you were publicly advocating support for a name which under the naming policy is unacceptable |
| 14:23.37 | elusif | arrowmaster: nope |
| 14:23.59 | xyu | my name apparently means "cock" in russian...so.... |
| 14:24.02 | elusif | i was only reported by someone just happy to get me banned for any reason |
| 14:24.06 | elusif | not because they were offended |
| 14:24.15 | Wobin | 'xyu' eh? |
| 14:24.29 | nevcairiel | if you're offended on the internet, get off the internet =P |
| 14:24.35 | xyu | I had my name ninja changed by a GM. i logged on as barthalamu or some weird RP name. |
| 14:24.37 | elusif | xyu: are your parents russian? :D |
| 14:24.39 | Wobin | I'd say "That's a mouthful" but even I can't be that crude =P |
| 14:24.40 | xyu | I fought and had it changed. |
| 14:24.50 | xyu | no, when i chose this name i did not know it was vulgar in russian. |
| 14:25.01 | xyu | that was back in ultima online |
| 14:25.16 | elusif | what's wrong with the word ninja? |
| 14:25.18 | Wobin | "Corp Por" |
| 14:25.23 | Nandini | they don't have to be offended, but there is the potential that your comment could have seriously offended someone by trivializing the general use of the word negro in comparison to the specialized usage in anthropology |
| 14:25.29 | xyu | no no |
| 14:25.41 | xyu | ninja changed means i logged on and it was cahnged automatically |
| 14:25.45 | xyu | no "flag" to change it |
| 14:25.51 | elusif | all i said was it was used in ahtor |
| 14:25.53 | Wobin | ~x ru en xyu |
| 14:25.54 | elusif | anthropology |
| 14:26.02 | Nandini | i doubt many anthropologists would be offended by seeing the name "kneegro" or by your comment, but some black people sure might |
| 14:26.08 | elusif | xyu - k |
| 14:26.09 | xyu | i was some RP'er and all my friends list was updated automatically |
| 14:26.26 | Nandini | my wife said black anthropologists would be a tossup. LOL |
| 14:26.33 | elusif | :D |
| 14:26.35 | Wobin | You should have said "My name in real life is Richard!" |
| 14:26.52 | elusif | ok |
| 14:26.57 | elusif | i'm gonna go watch x-men trilogy |
| 14:27.00 | Grum | why did i read that as: 'My real life is named Richard!' ? |
| 14:27.02 | elusif | cya |
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| 14:27.13 | Wobin | That kinda reminds me of that guy that came on the MUD I was cre on. "Deanalator" |
| 14:27.18 | Ellipsis | Grum: because it's your boyfriend's name amirite? |
| 14:27.31 | Wobin | He protested the name change: "My name is Dean! that's what my friends call me!" |
| 14:27.49 | Grum | no, its how my wiiwii is called ... |
| 14:27.49 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:27.51 | Grum | Dick |
| 14:28.11 | xyu | My license plate says xyu on it too. Someone once asked me at a toll booth "What does your license plate mean?" and all i responded was "It's not russian!" |
| 14:28.16 | xyu | They looked confused and drove off |
| 14:28.28 | Nandini | he should have named his char "deaninator" then and not "deanalator" |
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| 14:28.53 | Wobin | I actually suspect his RL had it in for him =P |
| 14:28.57 | kenlyric | wait, why would you change the name? |
| 14:29.17 | Arrowmaster | de anal ator |
| 14:29.24 | Wobin | cause it reads much like how "Therapist" reads "The Rapist" =P |
| 14:29.26 | kenlyric | that seems a bit of a stretch |
| 14:29.43 | Wobin | kenlyric: APPARENTLY SO! |
| 14:29.48 | kenlyric | canal is "c anal" |
| 14:29.52 | Wobin | ~rimshot |
| 14:29.53 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 14:30.02 | xyu | i've seen some really really bad pvp arena team names. |
| 14:30.09 | xyu | Like not even try to hide it bad |
| 14:30.19 | nevcairiel | apparently they dont care about arena team names |
| 14:30.30 | Nandini | hmm was just reading the naming policy, references to extreme and/or violent sexual acts is forbidden |
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| 14:30.40 | Arrowmaster | my guildmates have a team named 'eleven inches unbuffed' |
| 14:30.42 | Ellipsis | but the tame ones are ok? |
| 14:30.43 | Wobin | kenlyric: Well if you originally did not know his name was Dean, how would you read Deanalator? |
| 14:30.46 | Nandini | i wonder if that means that references to mainstream and gentle sexual acts is allowable |
| 14:30.47 | xyu | I think i'm on some team Voist Magina atm. |
| 14:31.13 | Ellipsis | makes me want to make a <Missionary Position> guild |
| 14:31.15 | kenlyric | unless I was looking for anal, I wouldn't see anal on first inspection |
| 14:31.22 | Wobin | kenlyric: this was on a MUD |
| 14:31.24 | kenlyric | so, probably Dean-alator |
| 14:31.27 | Wobin | think adolescent =P |
| 14:31.28 | xyu | I am a bloodelf "BadangleBJbythefire" |
| 14:31.48 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: do you often go looking for anal? |
| 14:31.49 | xyu | have at thee! |
| 14:31.50 | Snago | Best arena team name I've seen is "It hurts when I PeeVeePee" |
| 14:31.53 | Nandini | kenlyric: you're not always looking for anal? |
| 14:31.57 | Ellipsis | (in b4 purl) |
| 14:32.00 | kenlyric | ~kenlyric |
| 14:32.01 | purl | i heard kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
| 14:32.03 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 14:32.09 | Ellipsis | I was totally in b4! |
| 14:32.10 | Arrowmaster | Snago: every realm has a guild named that |
| 14:32.13 | nevcairiel | xyu: that name is forbiden by another rule =P |
| 14:32.22 | Grum | we have someone: "Ihavecandy" in the guild: "<GET IN THE VAN>" |
| 14:32.30 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 14:32.31 | Grum | and he runs around screaming GET IN THE VAN! GET IN THE VAN! |
| 14:32.38 | Arrowmaster | omg |
| 14:32.42 | Grum | i lolled :D |
| 14:32.44 | nevcairiel | report him :p |
| 14:32.52 | kenlyric | pederasts are hilarious. |
| 14:32.55 | Cryect | Ellipsis, are you in kenlyric again? |
| 14:32.56 | Arrowmaster | im gona have to check if thats available on my realm |
| 14:33.01 | Ellipsis | Cryect: only in my fantasies |
| 14:33.02 | Grum | nah i reported the cumchucks that decided it is fun to do |
| 14:33.31 | Grum | www. |
| 14:33.32 | Grum | zootube365 |
| 14:33.32 | Grum | .com |
| 14:33.37 | kenlyric | no |
| 14:33.37 | Grum | in general chat |
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| 14:33.46 | Grum | oh my advise - dont go there, google says beastiality >< |
| 14:33.50 | Ellipsis | speaking of my fantasies...oh |
| 14:33.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:33.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 14:34.02 | kenlyric | pretty sure zootube says bestiality, without google |
| 14:34.08 | xyu | no kidding |
| 14:34.27 | Stanzilla | Welcome to Zoo Sex Tube 365 - the biggest porn site for animal sex videos. < *tabclose* |
| 14:34.28 | Cryect | hey maybe its videos of zoos! |
| 14:34.29 | xyu | mom, this man says this is a virtual petting zoo....oh god no, make it stop. |
| 14:34.33 | nevcairiel | lol Stanzilla |
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| 14:35.03 | Grum | kenlyric: yeah, and the horror is, GM's cant care less |
| 14:35.09 | kenlyric | shouldn't that naked lady be trying to get on *top* of the horse. |
| 14:35.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:35.20 | xyu | mr. hands |
| 14:35.22 | Grum | it seems that one even claimed his 'nick' was `zootube365` :( |
| 14:35.34 | nevcairiel | you cant have numbers in nicks |
| 14:35.36 | nevcairiel | amirite? |
| 14:35.44 | Grum | yeah buut as his 'nickname' |
| 14:35.46 | Grum | not ingame name |
| 14:35.58 | Grum | and blizz just didnt ban his ass |
| 14:36.00 | Ellipsis | so I heard that pigs could orgasm for 30 minutes...turns out it's a lot less than that on the average |
| 14:36.00 | nevcairiel | and whats with the www ? :P |
| 14:36.12 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: just tried i suppose? |
| 14:36.20 | Ellipsis | no comment |
| 14:36.37 | kenlyric | otherwise 33% of names would end in 69, 33% in 666, and 33% in 42. 1% would end in 12345, same as their password. |
| 14:36.53 | xyu | 1337 |
| 14:37.05 | Ellipsis | 8008135? |
| 14:37.18 | xyu | 8675309 ? |
| 14:37.20 | kenlyric | look, I already had to adjust it twice when I thought of 666 and 42. |
| 14:37.41 | Arrowmaster | 2383456 |
| 14:37.42 | Ellipsis | I'm pretty sure 69 would be way more than a third of them though |
| 14:37.48 | Arrowmaster | oh wait thats my cell phone number |
| 14:37.58 | Grum | OMG GAY SEX LINE |
| 14:38.03 | xyu | you have a pretty easy number to remember |
| 14:38.49 | xyu | what's his whois :D |
| 14:38.59 | Ellipsis | he has a hostmask |
| 14:39.17 | Arrowmaster | i get mostly wrong numbers anyway |
| 14:39.25 | Arrowmaster | nobody ever calls my cell looking for me |
| 14:39.35 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r63813 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 14:39.35 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 14:39.35 | CIA-9 | - Very small and rare bug fixed. |
| 14:39.39 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 14:39.41 | Ellipsis | poor guy |
| 14:39.56 | Grum | HE SQUASHED A BABY BUG |
| 14:40.00 | Grum | MEAN PERAGOR! |
| 14:40.14 | Arrowmaster | the wrong numbers are just annoying, im not the kinda person that has to be talking on a cellphone whereever i go |
| 14:40.16 | Ellipsis | possibly an endangered species, too |
| 14:40.26 | Ellipsis | if it's *that* rare |
| 14:40.31 | Chompers | not so rare in Grid |
| 14:40.33 | Chompers | burn |
| 14:40.33 | Grum | lvl100 |
| 14:40.42 | kenlyric | elite mono stealth? |
| 14:41.25 | pastamancer | Chompers: you take that back! |
| 14:41.36 | Grum | grid>* |
| 14:41.38 | Chompers | :P |
| 14:41.59 | Ellipsis | Grum: you're icky |
| 14:42.12 | Grum | nowai |
| 14:42.15 | Arrowmaster | why cant i find a version of nethack writen in lua |
| 14:42.16 | Ellipsis | yup |
| 14:42.16 | Grum | wai? :( |
| 14:42.22 | Ellipsis | [6:40:36 am] * Grum gives Ellipsis 69 |
| 14:42.24 | xyu | speaking of numbers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM ofn btw. |
| 14:42.39 | Grum | i just handed you a number |
| 14:42.43 | Grum | i was out of 42s :( |
| 14:43.23 | Ellipsis | hand me a nicer one next time |
| 14:43.23 | Ellipsis | I prefer pi, tbqh |
| 14:44.03 | kenlyric | odd... am i hearing a beginning F in those beeps, or is my brain making them up? |
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| 14:44.18 | Grum | Ellipsis: pi*e ? |
| 14:44.40 | Grum | oh i was eating the best chocolate pie evar just now :D |
| 14:44.46 | Ellipsis | any fun mathematical constants will do, I guess |
| 14:45.30 | Ellipsis | I just tend to like the irrational ones 'cause they're fun to memorize |
| 14:46.55 | Grum | i can give you 28 |
| 14:46.59 | Grum | the 3rd perfect numbar! |
| 14:47.51 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 14:47.59 | Ellipsis | but there's so few digits in that one :( |
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| 14:54.00 | xyu | animaniacs definitely need an updated Nations of the World song >_< |
| 14:54.22 | xyu | otherwise how will i know! |
| 14:55.08 | Hjalte | Anyone online on eu pve ptr alliance? |
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| 15:06.43 | Wobin | xyu: so true |
| 15:07.00 | Wobin | united states canada india panama haiti jamaica peru |
| 15:07.18 | Wobin | Republic dominican, cuba, carribean, greenland, elsalvador too |
| 15:07.21 | Wobin | etc etc etc |
| 15:08.23 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 15:09.32 | Wobin | Ellipsis: http://macnaughtan.net/marisa/slowass%20but%20it%20works/Animaniacs%20-%20Nations%20Of%20The%20World.mp3 |
| 15:09.48 | Ellipsis | is this worth pausing pearl jam for? |
| 15:09.55 | Nandini | totally |
| 15:10.00 | Ellipsis | all right then |
| 15:10.00 | Wobin | It'll take a bit to download |
| 15:10.16 | Wobin | It appears to be dialup =P |
| 15:10.28 | Wobin | PGMS is the best thing ever |
| 15:10.50 | Wobin | http://www.onebadpixel.com/pgms/ |
| 15:13.25 | Ellipsis | well that was....interesting |
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| 15:24.01 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63814 10LibBanzai-2.0/LibBanzai-2.0.lua: LibBanzai-2.0: Adjust the update frequency. |
| 15:25.19 | Coeba2 | sorry just a question of a noob ;) for shox hide a frame the code is function onclick() frame:Show(); end / frame:Hide(); end correct ? |
| 15:26.45 | Coeba2 | because it tell me a error about (nil value) or something else |
| 15:28.25 | Coeba2 | ??? anyone here ? |
| 15:29.46 | zapl | Coeba2: "frame" not the name of the frame you try to show/hide |
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| 15:30.49 | Coeba2 | non my frame is necroassistmain i call it in necroassist and the button to close it in necroassistmain |
| 15:31.22 | Josh_Borke | coeba2: do not expect real time answers to your questions, someone is always watching |
| 15:31.39 | Coeba2 | sorry |
| 15:32.32 | Josh_Borke | s/is/isn't/ |
| 15:32.47 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63815 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: PitBull: Banzai: Iterate the frames by name instead of unit ID. |
| 15:33.03 | Josh_Borke | the short bit of code you have posted would work assuming you had a variable named frame that referenced an actual widget |
| 15:33.17 | Coeba2 | but is true or wrong ? |
| 15:33.35 | Coeba2 | for show hide a frame the code is function onclick() frame:Show(); end / frame:Hide(); end correct ? |
| 15:33.48 | Josh_Borke | if frame references a frame, yes |
| 15:34.01 | Josh_Borke | do you have some code that says: frame = necroassistmain? |
| 15:34.04 | Josh_Borke | or something like that? |
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| 15:34.28 | zapl | exor674: local f = CreateFrame("Frame",nil,UIParent); f:Show(); |
| 15:34.45 | zapl | nah example: |
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| 15:35.25 | zapl | or try necroassistmain:Show() if thats the name |
| 15:35.28 | Coeba2 | no my code is function onClick necroassistmain:Show(); end in the mecroassist.lua |
| 15:35.30 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63816 10aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.lua: aUF_Banzai: Tweaks. |
| 15:36.27 | Josh_Borke | is necroassistmain defined at that point? |
| 15:36.36 | Coeba2 | define ? |
| 15:36.48 | Josh_Borke | yes, does that variable exist? |
| 15:36.53 | Coeba2 | in necroassist no |
| 15:37.01 | Josh_Borke | then how will it know what it is? |
| 15:37.10 | Josh_Borke | you're asking it to work with something it doesn't know about |
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| 15:37.15 | kergoth | if you don't know what a variable definition is, you need to go read the fucking manual |
| 15:37.22 | Josh_Borke | lol kergoth |
| 15:37.27 | Josh_Borke | ~pil |
| 15:37.28 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 15:38.00 | Coeba2 | need to make a Local necroassistmain =necroassistmain * |
| 15:38.02 | Coeba2 | , |
| 15:38.05 | Coeba2 | ?? |
| 15:38.12 | [Ammo] | ~pil |
| 15:38.13 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 15:38.17 | Th3Unknown | lol |
| 15:38.43 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63817 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (5 files): |
| 15:38.43 | CIA-9 | Bartender4: |
| 15:38.43 | CIA-9 | - add more descriptive error messages to get/set handlers |
| 15:38.43 | CIA-9 | - add MicroMenu module (may not be 100% complete yet) |
| 15:39.23 | Th3Unknown | when did bartender4 come out? |
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| 15:39.34 | Arrowmaster | it hasnt |
| 15:39.38 | Th3Unknown | boo |
| 15:39.55 | Th3Unknown | is it going to be released soon, or with 2.4? |
| 15:40.18 | [Ammo] | never! we will take nevcairiel hostage |
| 15:40.22 | [Ammo] | and demand goldz |
| 15:40.30 | sb | nevcairiel: have you read my idea about that possessbar option? |
| 15:40.34 | nevcairiel | ooh do i get goldz too? |
| 15:40.35 | Th3Unknown | I'll be the van driver |
| 15:40.44 | [Ammo] | no you get to be tied down |
| 15:40.59 | sb | and you will get some 'love' from purl! |
| 15:41.03 | Obelixprime | hey, do you guys know roth's UI |
| 15:42.47 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63818 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (Bar.lua MicroMenu.lua): Bartender4: beautify text tags on unlocked bars |
| 15:43.57 | Obelixprime | i was wondering if anyone knows what prat type replacement he uses if any |
| 15:45.31 | zapl | Obelixprime: screenshot? |
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| 15:47.24 | kenlyric | sb: you mean, you want there to be a possessbar option? :) |
| 15:48.36 | Obelixprime | http://zorktdmog.zo.funpic.de/roth_ui/WoWScrnShot_030308_195446.jpg |
| 15:49.03 | sb | ken: uhm right - some option to disable it :p i dont want to wipe (bloodboil :p) because some people are too stupid to handle new situations (-> macros gone, possessbar there :p) |
| 15:49.55 | kenlyric | ah... well, I can tell you he's heard that one before :) |
| 15:50.07 | Orphis_ | Do nymbia sometimes come here ? |
| 15:50.07 | xyu | had a few wipes to teron gorefiend because they thought they'd get a pet bar but instead got their mainbars changed :D |
| 15:50.19 | sb | err teron sorry |
| 15:50.23 | sb | not bloodboil :p |
| 15:50.40 | ragnarkon | Whats the talent info command? |
| 15:50.46 | ragnarkon | TalentInfo()? |
| 15:50.46 | nevcairiel | with bartender you get petbar AND the mainbar change .. dunno which addon actually hides your bar |
| 15:51.14 | sb | nevcairiel: but if you put your macros on bar 1 (*sigh*).... |
| 15:51.15 | kenlyric | the simple solution is to not put your macros on bar1 |
| 15:51.24 | nevcairiel | sb: then l2play |
| 15:51.30 | sb | or swap bar 1 to your macro bar (dont know if it still works ;o) |
| 15:51.48 | kenlyric | bar 1 is for stuff I'd use every single fight, so I can't imagine putting them on bar 1 anyway |
| 15:51.52 | sb | i dont care - i really like that possessbar, things get easier :o |
| 15:52.15 | sb | i suppose they change their primary bar with shift-mousewheel |
| 15:52.23 | kenlyric | ah |
| 15:52.25 | kenlyric | that makes sense |
| 15:53.38 | zapl | Obelixprime: looks like prat, but not sure how to hide background / tabs |
| 15:54.38 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63819 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull_CastBar - put in a check for a weird edge case |
| 15:54.38 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63820 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender4: fix some state stuff |
| 15:54.57 | Th3Unknown | the background can be hid by right clicking the tab, going into Background Color and lowering the Alpha down to 0% |
| 15:55.08 | Th3Unknown | and the tabs are hidden by going into the Interface options and selecting "Lock Chat Settings" |
| 15:55.18 | Th3Unknown | hid, or hidden* |
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| 15:57.15 | kenlyric | tabs don't appear until you hover over them anyway |
| 15:57.34 | kenlyric | unless I changed a setting to do that... |
| 15:57.46 | Th3Unknown | no, you're right |
| 15:57.52 | kenlyric | speaking of disappearing, goddamn auctioneer and its button that won't disappear! |
| 15:57.52 | Th3Unknown | they don't show until you hover |
| 15:58.25 | kenlyric | I hid it behind recount so maybe nobody would notice |
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| 16:02.05 | zapl | kenlyric: slidebar thing? /slidebar off |
| 16:02.26 | kenlyric | zapl: ah, thanks |
| 16:02.29 | kenlyric | no ui option for it |
| 16:02.44 | kenlyric | it used to disappear to the side, too |
| 16:02.53 | kenlyric | I just figured it was a bug that would disappear in the next version |
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| 16:03.38 | zapl | yep someone made it clamptoscreen :) but new svn version should be hiding again |
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| 16:11.01 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63821 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ (ARL-Tailor.lua ARL-Vendor.lua): |
| 16:11.01 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:11.01 | CIA-9 | - Added remaining vendor information for tailoring |
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| 16:12.37 | CIA-9 | 03bam * r63822 10/branches/ItemPriceTooltip/ (. Ace3/): ItemPriceTooltip: Created branch from trunk. |
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| 16:32.51 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11774.msg187784#msg187784 |
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| 16:48.28 | zapl | It prevents having to rewrite your addon when your addon gets ancient - constant upgrading vs onetime bigger upgrade |
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| 16:48.34 | Elsia | heya |
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| 16:54.00 | RaydenUni | warriors pretty much hit stuff and yell at them |
| 16:54.01 | RaydenUni | woot |
| 16:54.37 | Chompers | <B |
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| 16:56.47 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63823 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:56.47 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:56.47 | CIA-9 | - Update version |
| 16:56.47 | CIA-9 | - Update ## X-AceForum |
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| 17:02.12 | Orphis_ | Hmm, I think I know why LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Reputation isn't automated |
| 17:02.47 | RaydenUni | anyone else completley forget to pick up their gems every month? |
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| 17:03.24 | Orphis_ | You can get all the reputation loot fine with wowhead (except from a few things that are in the actual lib tagged as reputation loto but aren't really like capitals mount) but you also get 2.4 loot from wowhead |
| 17:03.49 | sb | RaydenUni: haha :p |
| 17:03.52 | Orphis_ | And there's no easy way to filter them (except from the item id) |
| 17:04.32 | Orphis_ | Because when you fetch loot from the search feature in wowhead, you can get the reputation loot fine, filter out the 2.4 items but you don't get the reputation level required |
| 17:04.37 | RaydenUni | i guess it's not so much that i forget |
| 17:04.43 | RaydenUni | that it takes forever to get out there :P |
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| 17:15.14 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63824 10BananaDKP/type/Symphony.lua: BananaDKP: Bugfix. |
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| 17:22.33 | kebinusan | ~seen toadkiller |
| 17:22.35 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 91d 15h 16s ago, saying: 'no it needs to swallow a bear which swallowed a man'. |
| 17:22.56 | Amadeo | or spit |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-9 | 03cinedelle * r63825 10SickOfClickingDailies/localization-frFR.lua: |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-9 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-9 | -frFR typo update (localization-frFR.lua) |
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| 17:24.19 | RaydenUni | some shaman tanked kara |
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| 17:24.47 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63826 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:24.47 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:24.47 | CIA-9 | - ToC Update |
| 17:24.47 | CIA-9 | - Engineering update |
| 17:24.48 | CIA-9 | - Engineering vendor information added |
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| 17:27.17 | chiper | doesnt surprise me |
| 17:27.46 | chiper | enhance shammys already make so much threat, it wouldn't be hard for one to function as a tank |
| 17:28.03 | RaydenUni | he took the talent that gives more parry but 30% threat reduction |
| 17:28.16 | RaydenUni | was drinking those pots that give 2500 armor |
| 17:28.24 | RaydenUni | had a shadow priest in his group because he couldnt' use the water shield |
| 17:28.38 | RaydenUni | 18k hp |
| 17:28.44 | RaydenUni | and got uncrittable |
| 17:28.48 | Amadeo | I wonder which class will get MS next |
| 17:28.55 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 17:29.05 | chiper | perhaps that's the route bliz should go with enhance shammys. instead of giving us a threat reduction, give us a taunt |
| 17:29.10 | Ellipsis | ooh me me, can I have it? pretty please? |
| 17:29.21 | chiper | Amadeo: you did hear they removed that shammy MS, right? |
| 17:29.25 | Amadeo | I'm guessing that Death Knights will have it |
| 17:29.28 | Amadeo | Did they? |
| 17:29.43 | Amadeo | I don't really keep up, just look at stuff once and a while |
| 17:29.43 | chiper | flametoungue nolonger has it |
| 17:30.10 | Amadeo | haha, I bet Shamans are pissed about being teased |
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| 17:30.22 | chiper | eh, I dont really care |
| 17:30.39 | rubik | ughh.. guildie got hacked and his 7 level 70's have been transfered to 4 different accounts/6 different servers |
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| 17:30.45 | rubik | within a matter of minutes |
| 17:31.08 | chiper | I thought transfers could only happen on characters that haven't been played for a week |
| 17:31.18 | Amadeo | Nope |
| 17:31.23 | Amadeo | Unless it's new :P |
| 17:31.28 | rubik | i don't understand it either.. they let you transfer toons between ANY two accounts? |
| 17:31.32 | vhaarr | Account transfers should only be possible on accounts that share the same surname? |
| 17:31.38 | rubik | i thought last name had to match/same household/family/something? |
| 17:31.44 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 17:31.58 | chiper | that's how it was when paid xfers first opened. mailbox had to be empty, and you couldn't have played the character for a period of time |
| 17:32.31 | rubik | blizz sent him an email with precisely which server and account each toon was transferred to.. while they're continuing to investigate |
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| 17:32.55 | RaydenUni | what do you guys thinking about spending 5-10 gold to change your spec until you log off? |
| 17:32.58 | RaydenUni | temporary respec |
| 17:33.22 | Amadeo | I think it'll never happen! |
| 17:33.24 | RaydenUni | "will you tank this?" "oh let me caugh up 100g to spec to prot and then back to arms when i'm done" |
| 17:33.43 | rubik | hmm.. would have to make it random-disconnect-proof but sounds neat? |
| 17:34.06 | Dashkal | Make it reset when your conjured items would vanish |
| 17:34.08 | rubik | make it like conjured items in terms of fading off |
| 17:34.09 | rubik | yeah |
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| 17:34.23 | rubik | but yes, would never happen.. heh |
| 17:34.36 | Dashkal | I'd still like to see free respecs, but I'm a druid. |
| 17:34.38 | Amadeo | Blizzard is going to keep money sinks in game |
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| 17:34.55 | RaydenUni | :( |
| 17:34.59 | RaydenUni | i still need my epic mount |
| 17:35.02 | rubik | yeah, see new worthless title you can buy for 1000g |
| 17:35.12 | rubik | brilliant way to take money out of the game |
| 17:35.13 | Dashkal | Money sinks are good. Respecs just encourage players not to |
| 17:35.18 | RaydenUni | and i have a couple pieces of gear that cost around 5000g that i want |
| 17:35.20 | Dashkal | Cen mount anybody? |
| 17:35.25 | Dashkal | Epic mounts in general? |
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| 17:35.41 | Dashkal | I'm now saving up the multiple K engineering recipies are going to go for |
| 17:35.43 | nevcairiel | a epic mount has a certain use |
| 17:35.46 | nevcairiel | such a title doesnt =P |
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| 17:35.58 | RaydenUni | let people buy and collect non combat pets and stuff then |
| 17:36.01 | RaydenUni | money sink! |
| 17:36.03 | Amadeo | have to get an epic mount to farm more money to spend it on sinks |
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| 17:36.28 | Dashkal | I'm amused at the daily quest at the end of SS rep: pay 10 gold for rep |
| 17:36.37 | Dashkal | And I'll do it too... I want three of those neck pieces |
| 17:36.55 | RaydenUni | SS? |
| 17:36.59 | Dashkal | Shattered Sun |
| 17:37.18 | nevcairiel | i want the alchemist stone |
| 17:37.23 | RaydenUni | i'm looking forward to the new dailies |
| 17:37.26 | nevcairiel | anyway, the other dailys give you that money |
| 17:37.26 | RaydenUni | i'm tired of the skettis ones |
| 17:37.27 | Dashkal | Those are pretty hot too |
| 17:37.47 | Dashkal | I poked at the test realm. did each of them once (should go back now that it's opened up further) |
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| 17:40.38 | kenlyric | vanity, not rarity, appeals to a lot of people. Blizzard just meets that need. |
| 17:41.57 | Amadeo | By using the same armor graphics over for the past 3 years? :P |
| 17:42.00 | kenlyric | err, vanity as awell as rarity |
| 17:42.18 | rubik | i don't understand the "swipe/cleave/etc. not breaking CC anymore" change tbh.. |
| 17:42.31 | RaydenUni | why? |
| 17:42.33 | kenlyric | sheep are short |
| 17:42.33 | rubik | i mean.. why did we need that? which noob tank complained that much |
| 17:42.37 | kenlyric | cleave shouldn't hit them |
| 17:42.39 | Amadeo | Have to make the game easier for people |
| 17:42.48 | Amadeo | You shouldn't have to think while playing WoW :P |
| 17:42.50 | kenlyric | rubik: the 95% of them? |
| 17:42.53 | RaydenUni | our guild leader always pops blade flurry at the wrong time |
| 17:43.13 | rubik | so why does cleave not break sheep but whirlwind does? |
| 17:43.27 | rubik | and what about multi-shot? why stop at just a few abilities? |
| 17:43.31 | RaydenUni | is whirlwind a tanking ability? |
| 17:43.34 | kenlyric | good question |
| 17:43.37 | RaydenUni | don't complain about multi shot |
| 17:43.45 | RaydenUni | preventing hunters from newbing it up is a good thing |
| 17:43.48 | rubik | just playing devil's advocate |
| 17:43.48 | Dashkal | the change was only for the "tank 3" abilities. Not for multi-targets in general |
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| 17:44.06 | rubik | so why was shammy lightning strike or whatever on that list? |
| 17:44.17 | Dashkal | wait what? that I missed |
| 17:44.19 | kergoth | it was never that hard to use multishot properly, just needed to turn so the sheeped mob isnt within the angle it hits at |
| 17:44.21 | RaydenUni | "why is my shackle broken? oh well *shackle* WHAT why is it broken? *shackle* STOP USING MULTI SHOT!" |
| 17:44.41 | rubik | my bad.. chain lightning not lightning strike |
| 17:44.50 | rubik | Chain Lightning: This ability will no longer jump to secondary targets which are under the effect of crowd-control spells that break on taking damage. i.e. Polymorph, Sap, etc. |
| 17:45.17 | Dashkal | Prolly under the log of "You don't control the jumping" |
| 17:45.20 | Dashkal | logic* |
| 17:45.43 | rubik | but shammy doesn't tank.. i understand pally avenger's shield change and druid swipe and warrior cleave |
| 17:45.53 | kenlyric | what? |
| 17:45.59 | kenlyric | there's a whole wowinsider article about shammy tanking |
| 17:46.03 | rubik | just saying it's not consistent |
| 17:46.14 | RaydenUni | it was *mostly* for attacks that hit multiple targets not AOE attacks |
| 17:46.22 | RaydenUni | isn't whirlwind aoe? |
| 17:46.24 | RaydenUni | not limited to a number of targets |
| 17:46.33 | rubik | there's prolly a wowinsider article about prot warrior dps too but that doesn't mean it's an useful thing |
| 17:47.01 | kenlyric | there's a video too |
| 17:47.06 | rubik | just sayin'.. :P |
| 17:47.07 | kenlyric | clearly an important game mechanic |
| 17:47.22 | kenlyric | they have shields. therefor, they are tanks |
| 17:49.03 | RaydenUni | i should level a shaman for tanking |
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| 17:49.48 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:49.48 | CIA-9 | - More engineering vendor information added, about half of vendor recipes are now included. Will try to finish engineering off today. |
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| 17:58.50 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63828 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ (ARL-Engineer.lua ARL-Vendor.lua): |
| 17:58.50 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:58.50 | CIA-9 | - More engineering vendor information |
| 17:58.50 | CIA-9 | - Fixed other engineering vendor information that was added |
| 18:00.21 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63829 10Conditioner/Conditioner.lua: Conditioner: Fix people without mana being counted in the mana pool percent. |
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| 18:05.52 | Dashkal | heh, I just realized I have no idea if my linux box at work is 32 or 64 bit... |
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| 18:10.31 | NivFreak | if you haven't noticed, it's probably 32bit ;P |
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| 18:11.36 | Dashkal | I'm thinking so, and I have a 32 bit OS on it, but I want to confirm before I install a new one |
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| 18:11.49 | Dashkal | eh, hell with it, even if it is 64 32 software tends to work more cleanly |
| 18:11.49 | kebinusan | uname -a |
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| 18:12.35 | Dashkal | kebinusan: That only shows the kernel, I'm trying to confirm I have the right kernel for the cpu installed |
| 18:12.53 | NeoTron | a shammy in my guild picked up the shield from illidan and trinket from bloodboil |
| 18:13.37 | NimbleRabit | Reinstalled my addons and set them back up, and my WoW freezes again =/ |
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| 18:14.18 | Superfly_ | Dashkal: i wouldnt install 64bit linux again :P |
| 18:14.41 | kebinusan | ubuntu 64bit works fine for me |
| 18:14.46 | kebinusan | zero application problems |
| 18:14.57 | Superfly_ | alright, but whats the point of install 64bit? |
| 18:15.00 | kebinusan | compiling new apps from scratch is a bit of a pain |
| 18:15.06 | Superfly_ | it is |
| 18:15.08 | kebinusan | or can be |
| 18:15.14 | Dashkal | I will... when it gets a bit more stable. What's the point of my shiny (at home where I'm certain) 64 bit chip if I just run 32 on it anyway? |
| 18:15.14 | Superfly_ | and flash java are the best |
| 18:15.15 | kebinusan | not always tho |
| 18:15.39 | NivFreak | kebinusan: firefox is generally the fun one for 64bit apps |
| 18:15.49 | Superfly_ | i think there is no point to install 64bit, only if you have more than 4g |
| 18:15.52 | NivFreak | no java plugin, only flash via 32bit plugin + wrapper |
| 18:15.54 | Dashkal | firefox 64 is evil. I nabbed 32 bit pretty promptly |
| 18:16.08 | NivFreak | I have 8Gs in my linux box |
| 18:16.13 | Dashkal | I have a small pile of code in ~/software/32/ |
| 18:16.15 | kebinusan | java works |
| 18:16.26 | kebinusan | at least I can use WWS w/o any problems |
| 18:16.26 | Superfly_ | then go for 64bit :P |
| 18:16.28 | Dashkal | java standalone works. java plugged in does not |
| 18:16.35 | NivFreak | kebinusan: no java plugin for firefox ;P |
| 18:16.46 | nevcairiel | wasnt there some plugin wrapper? |
| 18:16.51 | NivFreak | not for java |
| 18:16.57 | NivFreak | works for flash though |
| 18:16.57 | Superfly_ | there was, and flash works, java doesnt |
| 18:16.58 | kebinusan | yeah theres a plugin wrapper for flash |
| 18:17.18 | kebinusan | I dont use any sites that require embeded java, and java webstart works fine for me |
| 18:17.21 | Superfly_ | there are some trick, to install a java in 32bit chroot, but damn kinda ugly hax |
| 18:18.03 | kebinusan | aside from java just about everything in the 32bit ubuntu repository is in the 64bit repository |
| 18:18.26 | Dashkal | the 64 bit repos is pretty good. But Java and Flash are important to me |
| 18:18.49 | kebinusan | flash works |
| 18:18.53 | Superfly_ | btw if you are looking for your 64/32 feature check /proc/cpuinfo? |
| 18:18.55 | kebinusan | with the nsplugin wrapper |
| 18:19.14 | Dashkal | mmm, sledgehammer meet square peg. Square peg meet round hole |
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| 18:19.45 | kebinusan | eh, it works for me, I can watch crap on youtube I can use wowwebstats |
| 18:19.50 | Dashkal | Meh, I can't read proc/cpuinfo to save my life |
| 18:20.09 | Superfly_ | why? |
| 18:20.10 | Dashkal | Still, this is a work PC so stability > performance. 32 or 64 I'm installing 32 |
| 18:20.13 | Coeba2 | sorry but i dont find the solution for my error about my function onclick frame:Show(); end where it tell about nil value |
| 18:20.37 | Superfly_ | then 32 > 64 |
| 18:20.57 | Dashkal | For home performance > stability. So I deal with the hacks I need to make things work |
| 18:21.33 | Superfly_ | im using almost the same things at home and work, except at work i have to use redhat |
| 18:21.45 | Dashkal | I'm running kubuntu on both |
| 18:21.47 | Coeba2 | can you help me about thios ? |
| 18:21.51 | Coeba2 | this ? |
| 18:26.36 | Dashkal | and people wonder why Blizz rarely gives advance info: http://www.wowblues.com/us/wotlk-lock-buff-5103795764.html |
| 18:26.40 | Superfly_ | and btw correct me if am wrong, but afaik there is not a significant performance diff between 32/64(except the memory stuff) |
| 18:27.09 | Dashkal | "except the memory stuff" IS the bonus |
| 18:27.29 | Chaud | WTB more leaked dev meeting notes =( |
| 18:27.39 | NeoTron | 64 bit has moer overhead |
| 18:28.03 | NeoTron | it's faster if you deal with large enough amounts of data to need >32 bit addressing/numbers though |
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| 18:30.08 | CIA-9 | 03bam 07Ace3 * r63830 10ItemPriceTooltip/ (15 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:30.08 | CIA-9 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 18:30.08 | CIA-9 | - Primarily for PTR 2.4 (may work on live too) |
| 18:30.08 | CIA-9 | - Tested mainly against Ace3 RC1 (may work with current beta) |
| 18:30.08 | CIA-9 | - Uses the new embedded textures to display coins in tooltips |
| 18:34.20 | NeoTron | and more importantly, when will blizzard make item price available without a database? |
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| 18:37.49 | CIA-9 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 18:37.49 | CIA-9 | - Fix externals! |
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| 18:43.27 | kenlyric | neotron, that is the one we have :) |
| 18:43.27 | kenlyric | is there another one? |
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| 18:44.50 | dylanm | Wha wha? |
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| 18:51.29 | NeoTron | kenlyric: there are a lot of various addons that adds item prices to the tooltip |
| 18:51.38 | NeoTron | one from Auctioneer for example |
| 18:51.47 | kenlyric | I was not aware of them, apart from informant |
| 18:52.05 | kenlyric | and *obviously* everything needs an ace alternative :) |
| 18:52.09 | NeoTron | I swear I used another addon when BC was new |
| 18:52.17 | Hjalte | Tuller also did one. |
| 18:52.17 | kenlyric | i wonder if informant ever got updated after 2.0 |
| 18:52.35 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I'm using it |
| 18:52.50 | kenlyric | does it have prices of stuff from 2.2 and 2.3? |
| 18:52.53 | kenlyric | I'm guessing it would |
| 18:53.29 | kenlyric | so many of my tooltip mods cross functionality :/ |
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| 18:54.12 | NeoTron | auctioneer is an active project |
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| 18:54.34 | NeoTron | mainly I was pondering why Blizzard doesn't just add an ItemPrice(itemid) query :) |
| 18:56.11 | dylanm | SellFish, Valuation... |
| 18:56.19 | dylanm | ~seen Polarina |
| 18:56.21 | purl | polarina <n=polarina@unaffiliated/polarina> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 22d 20h 54m 24s ago, saying: 'Adys: But I want to see the photos I capture with my camera... :|'. |
| 18:56.29 | dylanm | Odd. |
| 18:56.32 | Adys | eh |
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| 19:00.10 | Dashkal | why do I risk the wow forums? why? |
| 19:00.11 | NivFreak | are DLK and DW tuned for 25 man raids? |
| 19:00.28 | Chaud | The WoW forums are amusing |
| 19:00.55 | Chaud | I can take all but most of the PTR/TTR forum posts, and never enter offtopic, guild relations, ect |
| 19:01.06 | NeoTron | The day I stopped trusting WowDB: http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=17968 Quick Facts => Tameable (Spider) |
| 19:01.08 | Dashkal | *imagine in all caps* omg the devs didn't fix my pet problem therefore _anybody_ doing _anything_ not related are wasting time |
| 19:01.29 | Dashkal | OT amuses me. UI can actually be handy |
| 19:01.41 | Dashkal | I never browse anything else (I just get linked in from wowblues) |
| 19:01.44 | NeoTron | although they should make pets scale with haste, hit, resilience etc |
| 19:01.44 | Chaud | I don't read it since I don't code =D |
| 19:02.03 | NivFreak | god no, pets don't need buffs |
| 19:02.04 | Dashkal | UI is more UI support than coding. I come here for lua discussion |
| 19:02.37 | Chaud | Well, most of it is help me with this code, or what is this addon that I could have found by typing a description in google |
| 19:03.35 | sb | nevcairiel??? :O |
| 19:04.10 | sb | when possessbar is active there is no way to switch your primary bar - could you please implement an option to disable the possessbar? :o |
| 19:04.17 | sb | ohnoes :( |
| 19:04.18 | Stanzilla | hahaha |
| 19:04.23 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 19:04.47 | kenlyric | see now, I was nice enough to only ask once |
| 19:04.55 | NeoTron | NivFreak: pets should scale |
| 19:05.01 | NeoTron | but I also think affliction needs love |
| 19:05.02 | nevcairiel | i should add that possess mode tuller was talking about,when possess is active, hide all other actionbars :D |
| 19:05.17 | NeoTron | since with high tier gear they once again made warlocks into SB-nukebots |
| 19:05.19 | NeoTron | like pre-BC |
| 19:05.19 | kenlyric | turn off the entire UI |
| 19:05.37 | sb | lol nevcairiel |
| 19:05.53 | NivFreak | NeoTron: if pets scale, thier masters need to get nerfed ;) |
| 19:06.09 | NeoTron | respectfully disagree! |
| 19:06.27 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 19:06.29 | sb | nevcairiel: would it be that compicated to implement this option? ;) |
| 19:06.33 | nevcairiel | no |
| 19:06.42 | NivFreak | NeoTron: says the lock :) |
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| 19:06.54 | nevcairiel | i'm just lazy =P |
| 19:06.59 | NeoTron | of course |
| 19:07.06 | NeoTron | locks currently don't use pets in raiding |
| 19:07.07 | sb | meh :p |
| 19:07.20 | NeoTron | although mainly i just want more survivability |
| 19:07.36 | sb | nevcairiel: going to search for that code later... *sigh* :p |
| 19:08.11 | sb | do you want diffs or commits? |
| 19:08.13 | Chaud | Need a buff against melee |
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| 19:08.34 | Chaud | Get torn up even as sl/sl |
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| 19:13.11 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63832 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Bugfix. |
| 19:13.18 | nevcairiel | i'm running out of steam tanks because of you =P |
| 19:13.46 | NeoTron | Chaud: and more specifically, NEED to be SL/SL to be competerive |
| 19:14.00 | NeoTron | despite destro having a whole slew of useless pvp specific talents |
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| 19:15.48 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63833 10Bartender3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: add option to disable the possess bar (or enable it on any other bar thats not bar1) |
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| 19:17.11 | nevcairiel | i need new steam tonks :( |
| 19:17.54 | Chaud | Destro looks fun |
| 19:18.18 | NeoTron | wow. my server has 15 active BT guilds, one just stepping into Hyjal and all the way down to 30th spot for at least 5/6 SSC, 3/4 TK |
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| 19:18.45 | Chaud | Mine has like 4-5 =\ |
| 19:19.13 | NeoTron | destro is Shadow Bolt |
| 19:19.17 | chiper | mine has two |
| 19:19.19 | NeoTron | repeatedly. many many times |
| 19:19.36 | chiper | neo: like frost mages |
| 19:19.38 | NeoTron | I like the big numbers and that it allows me to lead the raid |
| 19:19.55 | NeoTron | but I know many would prefer affliction because it's more interesting |
| 19:20.12 | NeoTron | I am either destro or felguard in raids |
| 19:20.27 | Chaud | I was AP pom pyro at 60 =p |
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| 19:20.31 | Chaud | Played WSG constnatly |
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| 19:22.15 | chiper | I love playing arcane, but I'll probably switch frost when the next expansion comes out |
| 19:22.53 | chiper | that reminds me, I need to add a POM modifier to my sheep script |
| 19:22.54 | Chaud | You don't PvP? |
| 19:23.08 | chiper | occasionally, yes |
| 19:23.16 | NeoTron | I'll likely switch to Felguard in wotlk |
| 19:23.25 | NeoTron | ...until I get to l80 at least :) |
| 19:23.56 | chiper | but mostely AV. I die too much in the other BGs, and I'm not focused enough for arenas |
| 19:28.40 | Dashkal | Intentionally inflamatory comment: Blizzard should remove the arena to the tournament realm only. Make it it's own game and let the skills split apart. |
| 19:29.54 | chiper | I agree |
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| 19:30.51 | Ellipsis | so much for inflammatory, anyone here have a problem with that? |
| 19:30.59 | Dashkal | Nice |
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| 19:31.12 | chiper | I for one am tired of PvP "balancing" fucking up my PvE |
| 19:31.21 | Chompers | i dare you to say that on the forums Dashkal |
| 19:31.36 | Dashkal | Oh hell no. I forgot my flame absorber |
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| 19:35.50 | NeoTron | Dashkal: sounds like an excellent plan |
| 19:36.18 | kenlyric | works for me |
| 19:36.35 | NeoTron | have the arena have its own progression methods but require l70 of said class on a non-tournament realm to play there... or just do what guildwars do - always allo a max player pvp only char to be created |
| 19:37.08 | chiper | neo: btw, how do you bring up magicmarket's config interface? I grabbed it off WAU last night and couldn't figure out how to use it |
| 19:37.12 | Chaud | I would quit if they removed arena from live =\ |
| 19:37.31 | Chaud | Remove PvE from live =D |
| 19:37.44 | chiper | chaud: that's what the TR is |
| 19:37.44 | Dashkal | finally someone disaggrees :p |
| 19:37.47 | Chaud | 25 man raids realm with your own PvE skill sets! |
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| 19:37.53 | Chaud | Nothing like the live ones. |
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| 19:38.11 | chiper | dash: yeah, but he's just doing it for fun |
| 19:38.13 | Dashkal | Chaud: I was actually suggesting that. Make arena it's whole game. PvE and Arena would be independant and both could be properly balanced |
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| 19:38.24 | kenlyric | Chaud: I'm sure we would be sad to see you go |
| 19:38.49 | Chaud | Well, I'm sure there are plenty of people that arena more than PvE |
| 19:38.50 | kenlyric | Dashkal: wouldn't work |
| 19:38.50 | Dashkal | chiper: I know, but I need some sort of anvil to beat the idea out on. That'll work as well as anything :p |
| 19:38.54 | kenlyric | what about arena mounts? |
| 19:39.34 | Chaud | Keep raids on a seperate realm with premades, walk into riads with T6 and pass the stupid checks |
| 19:39.35 | kenlyric | where would one fly rainbow netherdrakes? |
| 19:39.56 | Chaud | Keep arena on seperate realm, and live will just be BGs and leveling up =p |
| 19:41.03 | NeoTron | Chaud: /magic or bind a key to it |
| 19:41.40 | Dashkal | Actually, something that would be nifty to see would be true premade BG teams. Real ladder level WSG matches and such :p |
| 19:42.01 | Chaud | Guild v Guild in WotLK |
| 19:42.02 | Dashkal | AV might be a touch difficult though |
| 19:42.08 | mikma | http://energystandard.blogspot.com/2007/12/usa-green-car-of-year.html |
| 19:42.09 | NeoTron | Chaud: raid with premades would be amazingly boring |
| 19:42.09 | Chaud | All they need is a ladder system for it |
| 19:42.39 | Chaud | Arenas with premades would be boring, not being able to wear the gear on live would be boring, ect =p |
| 19:42.57 | NeoTron | mikma: splendid. I am sure it gets more than 10 MPG! |
| 19:43.38 | Dashkal | I'd play a pure arena realm. I'd play for the same reason I play TF2 |
| 19:43.53 | NeoTron | it's a pure PvP skill game |
| 19:43.56 | Dashkal | Though it would be better compared to CustomTF |
| 19:44.03 | NeoTron | isn't that what all hardcore arena players say they want? :P |
| 19:44.30 | Dashkal | On that tangent: Did Valve ever release the SDK for TF2? I wanna see CustomTF in source |
| 19:44.47 | Dashkal | Warlock with super legs and armor ftw :p |
| 19:45.42 | chiper | I miss the PvP style that Lineage had. Guilds defending castles from other guilds. was so much fun |
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| 19:46.06 | Dashkal | AoC should have that back |
| 19:46.22 | Dashkal | I'd like to see how that pans out, actually. Though overall AoC probably can't pull me from warcrack |
| 19:47.01 | chiper | there were six castles in the game that periodically became open for assault. first guild to topple the central control tower and capture the crown one control of the castle until the next assault |
| 19:47.03 | NeoTron | all MMO previews always promise a better experience |
| 19:47.16 | NeoTron | but I've found that most actually are not better. prettier perhaps but not better :) |
| 19:47.26 | Dashkal | Heh, and that's exactly what I'm expected |
| 19:47.34 | chiper | the best castle also had two bosses that would help defend |
| 19:47.35 | Chaud | No that isn't what I want =\ |
| 19:47.39 | Dashkal | but it won't stop me from hitting the trial button |
| 19:47.41 | Chaud | Arenas are a gear grind + a fun game |
| 19:47.43 | Dashkal | WAR doesn't interest me at all |
| 19:47.54 | Chaud | Without it, and the benifits it gives you on live, there is no point |
| 19:48.11 | Chaud | It would just be removing something from the experience |
| 19:48.18 | Dashkal | Chaud: It appeals to the same type of reward mentality that drives people to play TF2 or Starcraft |
| 19:48.28 | Dashkal | It becomes pure skill rather than purple text |
| 19:48.51 | Chaud | There is a reason I don't play SC anymore =p |
| 19:49.13 | Dashkal | As for those who really do like world of grindcraft, there are plenty of grind->purp paths outside of the arena :p |
| 19:49.22 | chiper | yeah, I was really interested in a skill only gear-leveled PvP style, until I found out blizz is gonna charge extra for it |
| 19:49.35 | kenlyric | purples make your wiener bigger |
| 19:49.54 | Chaud | I wouldn't mind the arena realms being something addational added |
| 19:49.59 | Dashkal | so play right now on the TTR? the extra charge is because it's a tourney. Considering the cash prizes on the other end, I can udnerstand |
| 19:50.05 | Chaud | But I like getting some new gear |
| 19:50.10 | Chaud | You can play on TTR now... |
| 19:50.23 | Chaud | With all the mages in mp/5 gems, and rogues in dodge gems |
| 19:50.25 | chiper | dash: right, but the TTR will go away |
| 19:50.29 | Chaud | and the lag, and fail |
| 19:50.40 | chiper | heh |
| 19:50.44 | Dashkal | It will. Unless they actually implement my idea it has to go away |
| 19:50.45 | kenlyric | they could still make a city you would show it off in |
| 19:50.57 | kenlyric | best of both worlds |
| 19:51.05 | Chaud | Just add it as something extra in wow =\ |
| 19:51.11 | Dashkal | make armory show your rendered model :p |
| 19:51.17 | Chaud | I would play on it for fun when no one is on live or no one wants to arena |
| 19:51.19 | Dashkal | (my god that would destroy armory so quickly) |
| 19:51.33 | chiper | dash: oh man I wish Armory could do that |
| 19:51.48 | chiper | but yeah, the server load would be intense |
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| 19:53.12 | Dashkal | If you need a visual of progress, make your rating entitle you to non-combat glows |
| 19:53.25 | Dashkal | no effect except that glows of certain colors require more rating |
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| 19:53.45 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 19:53.45 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 19:53.45 | chiper | cool idea |
| 19:54.00 | chiper | I'm guessing the TTR doesnt have enchants? |
| 19:54.06 | Chaud | Has everything |
| 19:54.18 | Chaud | gems, enchants, pve gear, pvp gear, ect |
| 19:54.32 | chiper | there's no PvE tho, so how do enchants work? |
| 19:54.49 | NeoTron | buy them from a vendor |
| 19:55.10 | Chaud | they are a "scroll" like thing you can use |
| 19:55.15 | Chaud | Like enchants should be now |
| 19:55.30 | chiper | ah, yeah, that's exactly how enchants should be right now |
| 19:55.57 | chiper | or atleast as an option |
| 19:57.05 | chiper | add an enchanting scroll reagent the costs a certain amount of money depending on what level of enchant can be put on it. enchanter clicks on the scroll instead of the item |
| 19:57.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Elsia: thanks for fixing sharedmedia-blizzard |
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| 20:05.13 | Dashkal | Ok, this ss confuses me: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/tcg-picnic-gallery.html#11 |
| 20:05.27 | Dashkal | Alliance standing next to Thrall <Warchief> and there's no fighting going on |
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| 20:05.45 | Chaud | That isn't the normal Thrall |
| 20:05.58 | Dashkal | MH? |
| 20:06.12 | Chaud | IDK, I don't raid =p |
| 20:06.34 | Dashkal | now that I think about it, MH makes perfect sense |
| 20:07.14 | Dashkal | I've only been there once so I didn't recognize the scenery |
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| 20:07.55 | Fisker- | Chaud you been far into black temple? |
| 20:08.25 | Chaud | Outside the door far? |
| 20:08.41 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:08.47 | Chaud | The most I have done is fill in for someone in SSC once |
| 20:08.56 | Chaud | Don't have time to actually raid right now |
| 20:09.06 | Chaud | http://www.wyndforge.com/WOW/gallery/gallery_lochmodan that is pretty pro |
| 20:09.08 | Dashkal | BT made me sad: a stealth detector right in the first room |
| 20:09.15 | Elsia | sag_ich_nicht: no problem |
| 20:10.04 | Fisker- | Do you have to take reliquary of souls before being able to progress in black temple or is it optional? |
| 20:10.38 | doc^blup | you have to |
| 20:12.37 | NeoTron | RoS is a fun fight |
| 20:12.52 | Fisker- | Isn't it the hardest in black temple? |
| 20:13.00 | durcyn | after supremus is down, you can take akama, gorefiend, reliquary or bloodboil in any order, but they all have to die before the door to shahraz opens |
| 20:14.46 | Fisker- | How much do you figure a black temple run to akama will yield in hearts of darkness? |
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| 20:15.11 | doc^blup | ~5? |
| 20:15.12 | purl | 5 is a number, silly |
| 20:15.17 | Fisker- | ok |
| 20:15.21 | NeoTron | if even that |
| 20:15.36 | NeoTron | often you seem to get no HoD's until after the supremus trash |
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| 20:16.26 | Dashkal | man, I can't wait until SC2... I'll never play competatively... I'll probably never even complete the SP without cheating... I wants it anyway. <-- lore junkie |
| 20:16.47 | Fisker- | custom maps :) |
| 20:17.32 | NeoTron | SC2 => lore buildup for the upcoming SC MMO Blizzard secretly is making |
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| 20:18.10 | NeoTron | and I'd expect SCMMO to be a different kind of MMO |
| 20:18.24 | NeoTron | maybe in a similar vein to planetside |
| 20:18.37 | NeoTron | But this is just my speculations |
| 20:18.40 | chexsum_ | fpmmo |
| 20:18.50 | Chaud | lollore =\ |
| 20:19.11 | Dashkal | an fpmmo would be hot |
| 20:19.14 | Fisker- | Planetside was pretty cool |
| 20:19.19 | Dashkal | I really don't like how RPGs handle ranged weapons |
| 20:19.21 | Dashkal | I wanna aim |
| 20:19.47 | Chaud | Play AoC or whatever that MMO is |
| 20:19.51 | selckin | Could anyone tell me where to run off the debuff-type coloring of the border with Pitbull? i really can't seem to find it |
| 20:20.05 | Dashkal | That's why I'm going to look at AoC, Chaud. Real time combat |
| 20:20.12 | NeoTron | Dashkal: so played SWG lately? |
| 20:20.25 | Dashkal | I won't touch SWG with a 20 foot pole |
| 20:20.38 | Chaud | You can't hit things when things lag though = |
| 20:20.53 | NeoTron | SWG had so much promise |
| 20:21.00 | Dashkal | I'm on cable in a major city. Lag generally isn't an issue for me |
| 20:21.20 | NeoTron | ./nostalgic |
| 20:21.30 | NeoTron | I played it for 2 yrs before moving to pre-release WoW |
| 20:21.37 | Dashkal | I'm hoping SW Force Unleashed doesn't suck |
| 20:21.45 | Dashkal | The Wii dual mode has me drooling |
| 20:21.48 | Dashkal | duel* |
| 20:22.06 | NeoTron | wii + lightsaber = win |
| 20:22.13 | NeoTron | I think :) |
| 20:22.25 | Dashkal | I saw it confirmed in a second interview that they're supporting true 1:1 in a special multiplayer mode |
| 20:22.28 | Dashkal | man that's gonna be hard to learn |
| 20:22.39 | Dashkal | the wiimote with its limitations will require a style all its own |
| 20:22.49 | NeoTron | true 1:1? |
| 20:22.56 | Dashkal | you swing, so does your saber |
| 20:23.00 | NeoTron | ah |
| 20:23.03 | Dashkal | in the same way |
| 20:23.04 | NeoTron | exact translation |
| 20:23.12 | Dashkal | it'll be hard though since the mote can get confused when not pointed at the sensor bar |
| 20:23.23 | NeoTron | would want a wiimote saber extension to make that more realistic |
| 20:23.29 | Dashkal | (load up 2 player baseball in wiisports and watch how it spazzes after awhile) |
| 20:24.19 | Dashkal | I think I'll end up with a fencing style rather than a hack-and-slash just because it keeps the mote pointed at the screen |
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| 20:25.40 | Dashkal | mind you even if *cries at the thought* the dueling mode gets axed, SWFA looks pretty badass |
| 20:26.46 | CIA-9 | 037destiny 072.4 * r63835 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua: |
| 20:26.46 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 20:26.46 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 20:31.14 | Fisker- | forced unleashed is gay |
| 20:31.50 | Fisker- | it might have alle those "cool" physics |
| 20:31.54 | kergoth | is there a way to copy sections from bags to bank in baggins? |
| 20:31.56 | Fisker- | but stormtroopers cuddling = fail |
| 20:32.00 | kergoth | cause i dont want to set all thi sup manually again |
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| 20:33.11 | Elsia | gief ptr :( |
| 20:33.19 | Fisker- | SERVARS DOWN?! |
| 20:33.21 | Fisker- | oh |
| 20:33.23 | Fisker- | you were first |
| 20:33.38 | Elsia | :P |
| 20:33.40 | Fisker- | new patch? |
| 20:33.51 | Elsia | no just servers down |
| 20:34.16 | Fisker- | ETA? yarr? |
| 20:34.41 | Dashkal | I am nothing more than amused at the cuddling stormtroopers :p |
| 20:36.37 | Fisker- | i wanted the white snow |
| 20:37.40 | Dashkal | bizarre. my internet is really acting up. It's like suddenly all ack packets are getting dropped. Existing connections work fine |
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| 20:39.53 | Chaud | I ate them =) |
| 20:40.35 | Fisker- | ZERG ANNOUNCEMENT ZOON RAWR |
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| 20:40.46 | Fisker- | (noone saw what i did there) |
| 20:42.02 | Dashkal | nope |
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| 20:43.05 | Fisker- | http://www.battle.net/images/misc/08-03/A.jpg <-wtf |
| 20:43.14 | Fisker- | rubble blocking a slope? |
| 20:43.32 | Fisker- | http://www.battle.net/images/misc/08-03/D.jpg <-and again there |
| 20:43.37 | Dashkal | sure looks that way |
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| 20:44.04 | HIghoS | lol @ BAR |
| 20:44.13 | Chaud | 3d |
| 20:44.49 | keiss | hm , is it possible to switch tracking type by some API call ? |
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| 20:45.20 | Elsia | ~api settracking |
| 20:45.20 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_settracking |
| 20:45.52 | Elsia | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetTracking actually |
| 20:46.22 | keiss | question #2 , any idea if anyone made an addon for automatic tracking switcher for when u have 2 gathering profesions on 1 char ? could work with the data from gathermate or similar ? |
| 20:47.25 | Fisker- | btw wtf |
| 20:47.29 | Fisker- | yeah Higdur |
| 20:47.31 | Fisker- | HIghoS |
| 20:47.36 | Fisker- | A terran controlled bar |
| 20:47.38 | Fisker- | what is that? :o |
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| 20:51.16 | HIghoS | heh |
| 20:53.03 | kenlyric | keiss: how would it automatically switch? |
| 20:53.24 | keiss | kenlyric: well it knows positions of the possible nodes |
| 20:53.34 | keiss | so it would switch as you aproach each |
| 20:53.38 | kenlyric | the nodes are typically in the same places... |
| 20:53.43 | keiss | some are , yes |
| 20:53.48 | kenlyric | don't know of a logic that would work to know the difference |
| 20:54.02 | keiss | in those cases it would go ... herb prio (bad to spot) |
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| 20:54.22 | keiss | which is basically what i do now ... i track herbs and 'look' for veins |
| 20:54.30 | kenlyric | I just macrod them together |
| 20:54.31 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63836 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ (ARL-Engineer.lua ARL-Vendor.lua): |
| 20:54.31 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:54.31 | CIA-9 | - All engineering vendor information added |
| 20:54.36 | kenlyric | and just kept hitting the macr |
| 20:54.39 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 20:54.45 | Fisker- | "It is a little difficult to see, but the rocks are actually what is being lifted, and the Dark Templars are infiltrating the based from underneath them. The final visuals for the Anti-Gravity ability are not finished, but nonetheless since it was so highly desired by the community I wanted to at least get everyone a work in progress screenshot. " |
| 20:54.52 | Fisker- | http://www.battle.net/images/misc/08-03/D.jpg |
| 20:54.58 | Fisker- | So you can lift rocks to block paths? :P |
| 20:55.24 | keiss | kenlyric: hm ... in that case could be a addon that switches between them every ... i dunno 0.5secs .. |
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| 20:55.46 | keiss | i dont want to be clicking a macro for 3 hours ... :) |
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| 21:16.12 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r63837 10StatBlocks/ (StatBlocks.lua StatBlocks.toc): StatBlocks: Completely stripped down and redesigned, this addon is now a core with no modules. Delete your saved variables if you used this. |
| 21:16.56 | Industrial | Funkeh`: whats it do |
| 21:17.25 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63838 10StatBlocks/: StatBlocks: copy to trunk |
| 21:17.26 | Funkeh` | Industrial, CML, SLTimex kinda thing |
| 21:18.25 | Funkeh` | Industrial, but more fubarish |
| 21:18.50 | keiss | Funkeh`: usable already ? |
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| 21:19.07 | Funkeh` | Keias, just needs modules, I wrote an fps one which Ill commit in a sec |
| 21:19.13 | Funkeh` | anyone is welcome to write more though |
| 21:19.26 | Industrial | Funkeh`: kay |
| 21:19.45 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63839 10/branches/StatBlocks/: StatBlocks: remove branch |
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| 21:26.06 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 21:28.00 | Dashkal | mwrarf |
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| 21:30.32 | Hjalte | Sigh. Just had two tries on gorefiend with the wrong trinkets equipped :( |
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| 21:32.10 | Grum | suchfail! |
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| 21:33.41 | Pazza | /MSG pazza test |
| 21:34.06 | Primer | Is there any easy way to find out what addon has caused another addon to stop working? |
| 21:34.41 | Primer | Since about 2 weeks ago, a WAU update has caused TinyTip (I _think_) to stop displaying tooltips at the mouse when I hover over units |
| 21:35.00 | Primer | I've since installed ACP, and see that TinyTip is still enabled |
| 21:35.45 | Gngsk | primer, install TinyTipBasic/TinyTipPositioning |
| 21:35.47 | selckin | tinytip is being rewriten or so, its a bit broken |
| 21:35.49 | Funkeh` | Primer, you need to download the new tinytip_ addons |
| 21:35.57 | Primer | ahhh |
| 21:35.58 | Primer | ok |
| 21:35.59 | Funkeh` | for it to work |
| 21:37.27 | Primer | Funkeh`: is what you wrote the same as what Gngsk wrote? |
| 21:37.37 | Primer | I see no tinytip_ |
| 21:37.40 | Funkeh` | pretty much |
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| 21:37.58 | Stanzilla | without the underscore |
| 21:38.10 | Stanzilla | it's TinyTipPositioning |
| 21:38.25 | Primer | ok |
| 21:38.28 | Primer | just making sure |
| 21:38.30 | Primer | thanks |
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| 21:40.44 | Snago | Funkeh`: Any screenshot of StatBlocks? |
| 21:40.51 | Funkeh` | http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3603/wowscrnshot030708212306gd5.jpg |
| 21:41.13 | FtH|Daemona | \o/ 18fps ! |
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| 21:41.23 | Funkeh` | laptop, fuck you |
| 21:41.41 | Josh_Borke | fugly |
| 21:41.42 | FtH|Daemona | hey thats more than i have when raiding :( |
| 21:41.53 | Elsia | StatBlocks_Tags would be nice that just takes DogTags |
| 21:41.55 | Josh_Borke | you should make the blocks legoblocks ;-) |
| 21:42.22 | Elsia | in fact if there was an FPS tag, you could probably do a lot with just the _Tags one |
| 21:42.38 | Funkeh` | Josh_Borke, heh, I need to shivle the gui around a bit I guess, cba doing too much since Im using the blizz one after 2.4 |
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| 21:42.55 | Josh_Borke | funkeh: i mean for the display of the info :-D |
| 21:43.04 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 21:43.07 | Funkeh` | meh ;p |
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| 21:47.27 | Primer | seems JWU can't install anything new |
| 21:47.40 | Primer | or delete anything that exists |
| 21:48.27 | Snago | Primer: Just make an empty folder with the name of the addon you want to install and update |
| 21:48.42 | Primer | doh, it's a checkbox |
| 21:48.51 | Primer | I was only highlighting the line |
| 21:49.05 | selckin | pebkac |
| 21:50.08 | NeoTron | Hjalte: I've done quite a few BT runs with my SR neck on for varying amounts of time |
| 21:50.26 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Yeah, quite a lot of people in our raids do that at times. |
| 21:51.13 | NeoTron | I had some completely wrong set one run |
| 21:51.18 | Primer | ahhh there we go |
| 21:51.30 | NeoTron | but best is when I forgot to sac my succubus after the first 30m ran out |
| 21:51.42 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63841 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ (ARL-LeatherWork.lua ARL-Vendor.lua): |
| 21:51.42 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 21:51.42 | CIA-9 | - Reorged LW section |
| 21:51.42 | CIA-9 | - Started with LW vendors |
| 21:51.42 | Dashkal | user=id-10t? |
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| 21:51.49 | NeoTron | I didn't realize until almost at the end of gorefiend |
| 21:52.02 | NeoTron | Dashkal: to be fair I was busy trying out my addon and leading the raid |
| 21:52.10 | keiss | well SR can also help at gorefiend so .. not a complete fail |
| 21:52.17 | NeoTron | I need to have someoen else loot when I'm doing marking with the addon |
| 21:52.23 | Killmore2 | http://invictuswow.com/pics/killmore_ui.jpg what you guys think ? |
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| 21:52.24 | Dashkal | not attacking, I just wanted to say that :p |
| 21:52.35 | NeoTron | not having the succubus sacced is ultimate fail :P |
| 21:52.44 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.49 | Pkekyo| | should I get a Ni-CD or Ni-MH battery pack? (electric motor; gotta run for a while, outdoors use) |
| 21:52.56 | Josh_Borke | and less decurse |
| 21:53.53 | Primer | crap, now the hovering tooltip looks odd |
| 21:54.01 | Dashkal | sides, I'm a kara scrub. When I poke about BT it's out of a desire to lean about it :p |
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| 21:54.12 | Primer | some recent updated made it look really nice, with nicely colored text for guild names, etc |
| 21:54.15 | Primer | n |
| 21:54.35 | Primer | now it just looks like the standard wow tooltip, except hovered over the mouse pointer |
| 21:55.08 | basslingo | Wobin, did you get that patch i sent you? |
| 21:59.22 | Wobin | basslingo: yes. but I haven't had the time to apply it |
| 21:59.26 | basslingo | k |
| 21:59.29 | Wobin | basslingo: You might have better luck sending it to ckknight_ |
| 21:59.32 | Primer | sigh, I want the old TinyTip back |
| 21:59.37 | ckknight_ | hrm? |
| 21:59.50 | basslingo | ill have to dig it out of my attachments then >.> |
| 22:00.15 | basslingo | Ckknight_: functionality for Cartographer |
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| 22:00.57 | basslingo | Ckknight_:want me to email them to you? or pm |
| 22:02.27 | Chompers | Killmore - Perhaps turn off some of the omen text |
| 22:02.40 | Chompers | they don't really need all of it to see threat |
| 22:03.13 | Chompers | and set your bag bar to 'fadeout' |
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| 22:05.02 | ckknight | basslingo: email |
| 22:05.05 | ckknight | basslingo: or use jira |
| 22:05.09 | basslingo | k |
| 22:05.12 | basslingo | ill jira it |
| 22:05.16 | ckknight | thank you |
| 22:05.18 | basslingo | allready have an account for it |
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| 22:06.01 | Gngsk | primer, dig the old tinytip out of tags |
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| 22:06.40 | Funkeh` | Primer, get -all- the extra addons |
| 22:06.42 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63842 10StatBlocks_Memory/ (. StatBlocks_Memory.lua StatBlocks_Memory.toc): StatBlocks_Memory: Initial Commit |
| 22:06.44 | Funkeh` | it looked the same to me |
| 22:06.57 | xyu` | magicmarker can only build mob database when you're lead? |
| 22:07.10 | Primer | Funkeh`: I did that, and I'm good, thanks again |
| 22:07.19 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 22:08.39 | basslingo | ckknight: sent to jira |
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| 22:14.14 | ckknight | kthx |
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| 22:15.07 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63843 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: bugfix blocks being locked on first login |
| 22:15.19 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: ping |
| 22:16.55 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63844 10StatBlocks_FPS/ (. StatBlocks_FPS.lua): StatBlocks_FPS: tweak, logtemplate |
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| 22:18.49 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63845 10StatBlocks_Memory/ (. StatBlocks_Memory.lua): StatBlocks_Memory: logtemplate |
| 22:18.53 | Xinhuan | pong |
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| 22:20.03 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: was thinking about the displaying of buffs/debuffs we talked about yesterday and wanted to geve me your opinion about an idea i had basically be able to filter the buffs/debuffs for the once you are always interested in but on a keypress or mouseover expand the list to show everything |
| 22:20.26 | Xinhuan | completely doable |
| 22:20.42 | Xinhuan | i was just more curious about how you are going to display it and where |
| 22:21.08 | Xinhuan | remember also curves and circles don't exactly match the square buffs/debuffs icons that everyone is used to |
| 22:22.20 | Yssaril | yea but am thinking of simply sticking them under the name and changing my main frame texture around some to accommodate them |
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| 22:25.14 | CIA-9 | 03naiad * r63846 10BuffAllReady/ (BuffAllReady.lua BuffAllReady.toc): |
| 22:25.14 | CIA-9 | BuffAllReady: |
| 22:25.14 | CIA-9 | - version 0.2 |
| 22:25.14 | CIA-9 | - Changed slash command from /bar to /buff so as not to conflict with Bartender |
| 22:25.14 | CIA-9 | - Added /buff announce option to trigger announcing of missing buffs at any time (instead of only at ready checks) |
| 22:25.20 | Xinhuan | it'll be kinda tough to put more than 8 or so debuffs in your current setup i think |
| 22:25.26 | Xinhuan | without making it look ugly |
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| 22:27.36 | Yssaril | hmm let me see what i can come up with will get back to ya with further ideas :) |
| 22:27.41 | Yssaril | thanks for the input |
| 22:29.20 | Grum | tbh, on unitframes you only need to show 'useful' things like active debuffs or important buffs (bubble/innervate etc) |
| 22:30.44 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63847 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua RecipeDB/ARL-Vendor.lua): |
| 22:30.44 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:30.44 | CIA-9 | - Typo fixes |
| 22:30.44 | CIA-9 | - Bug fix with arrays, my bad. |
| 22:31.13 | Yssaril | grum true but you should still have a way to get at the rest of the buff/s debuffs just in case |
| 22:31.20 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:31.49 | Grum | could you show a screenshot? |
| 22:31.54 | Grum | they wre roundish right? |
| 22:32.01 | Grum | on the top? and the left bottom/right bottom? |
| 22:33.29 | Yssaril | let me dig one up one sec |
| 22:34.14 | Grum | because i was thinking, you might be able to get away with showing the buffs on 'leafs', like a U in shape |
| 22:34.49 | Yssaril | http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1293/wowscrnshot030608200209wq8.jpg |
| 22:35.08 | Josh_Borke | whoa, that's weird |
| 22:35.42 | Grum | they look cute :D |
| 22:35.51 | Josh_Borke | yea, that's true, they do |
| 22:36.09 | Yssaril | lol |
| 22:36.09 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63848 10StatBlocks_Latency/ (. StatBlocks_Latency.lua StatBlocks_Latency.toc): StatBlocks_Latency: Initial Commit |
| 22:36.30 | sb | huh Funkeh`? |
| 22:36.36 | sb | there is already statblocks? |
| 22:36.43 | Yssaril | who said bars needed to from A->B mine take a detour on the way :P |
| 22:36.47 | Funkeh` | sb, indeed |
| 22:37.05 | sb | so whats that commit? :) |
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| 22:40.42 | Funkeh` | sb, StarBlocks is just a core now |
| 22:40.48 | Funkeh` | you need the plugins to do stuff |
| 22:40.53 | Funkeh` | Stat |
| 22:40.58 | sb | ah okay |
| 22:41.13 | sb | so i have to get all those modules to get my blocks back? |
| 22:41.18 | sb | *downloading* |
| 22:41.22 | Yssaril | was thinking about something like this http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8500/idea1os0.jpg woould be extending my texture to include the Name and then have the wings pop out and grow in size depending on the number of buffs/debuffs you got |
| 22:41.23 | Funkeh` | So people are free to make blocks for durability, attack powr and etc |
| 22:41.37 | Funkeh` | So I don't need to bloat up the core ;p |
| 22:41.47 | Xinhuan | i assume people would want Money, Coords, Clock and a few other basic ones |
| 22:41.55 | Xinhuan | and maybe Durability |
| 22:42.09 | Nandini | HKs! |
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| 22:42.27 | Xinhuan | HKs would be redundant in 2.4... kinda |
| 22:42.32 | Xinhuan | honor earned is immediate |
| 22:42.35 | Yssaril | why not just hook into fubarplugin and get plugins from there :P |
| 22:43.02 | Funkeh` | That would add a dependancy |
| 22:43.08 | Funkeh` | It's very very basic as it is |
| 22:43.14 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 22:43.18 | cncfanatics | Funkeh`: what exactly is "blizzconfig" in 2.4 ? |
| 22:43.28 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics, the blizzard GUI |
| 22:43.34 | cncfanatics | how does it work ? |
| 22:43.36 | Funkeh` | we can use it to make GUI's for our addons |
| 22:43.39 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 22:43.40 | Dashkal | Funkeh`: Does the framework allow a given extension to add more than one independantly confured block? |
| 22:43.45 | cncfanatics | explain or link please Funkeh` |
| 22:43.55 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics, no go search ;p |
| 22:44.02 | cncfanatics | can't find anything on google |
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| 22:44.07 | Funkeh` | Dashkal, yes |
| 22:44.12 | Xinhuan | how come optionhouse "memory" doesn't match performanceFu hmmm |
| 22:44.14 | cncfanatics | except a link to a phpb3 SQL code |
| 22:44.18 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics, 2.4 thread on us ui and macros |
| 22:44.23 | Yssaril | cncfanatics: basically they are redoing all their config and you can add your config into their window so its all in one place :) |
| 22:44.31 | cncfanatics | ty Funkeh` |
| 22:44.32 | Dashkal | Really fancy way of asking if an extension could add fubar plugins in the manner suggested by Yssaril without touching the core :) |
| 22:44.34 | cncfanatics | Yssaril: that wins |
| 22:44.58 | Funkeh` | Dashkal, I guess it's possible |
| 22:45.01 | Nandini | so these StatBlock plugins are now on the trunk, but StatBlocks itself is not? |
| 22:45.09 | Funkeh` | it is |
| 22:45.11 | Funkeh` | or should be |
| 22:45.14 | Dashkal | Cause I'd love to remove fubar but keep all my lovely little stat blocks |
| 22:45.14 | Funkeh` | I hope |
| 22:45.18 | Yssaril | cncfanatics: check out the PTR no more of this fullscreen options crap they give us now :) |
| 22:45.42 | Funkeh` | Nandini, is it not? it is for me |
| 22:46.29 | Dashkal | pane* |
| 22:46.30 | Nandini | checking again, it's been 30 mins since i checked |
| 22:46.38 | Xinhuan | hmm, OptionHouse is reporting higher memory usages for every addon than PerformanceFu, i wonder why |
| 22:47.04 | Yssaril | Dashkal: the blizzard one? |
| 22:47.18 | Dashkal | yeah |
| 22:47.21 | Yssaril | last i checked it was static in the middle of your screen no moving not reqizing |
| 22:47.25 | Dashkal | last time i looked it was a tad inflexible |
| 22:47.26 | Yssaril | *resizing |
| 22:47.27 | Josh_Borke | dashkal: i wrote a mod to resize and move it |
| 22:47.28 | Dashkal | exactly |
| 22:47.32 | Dashkal | Josh_Borke: I love you |
| 22:47.36 | Dashkal | where |
| 22:47.38 | Josh_Borke | it's on the wowace svn |
| 22:47.41 | Josh_Borke | InterfaceOptionsOptions |
| 22:47.41 | Dashkal | name? |
| 22:47.44 | Dashkal | *snags* |
| 22:47.47 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 22:47.53 | Josh_Borke | I don't recall if its currently working or not, but when i wrote it it was |
| 22:48.02 | Josh_Borke | it was pretty simple |
| 22:48.10 | Nandini | Funkeh`: StatBlocks is not available through files.wowace.com yet |
| 22:48.26 | Nandini | maybe it just hasn't picked it up yet tho |
| 22:48.27 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 22:48.44 | Josh_Borke | it's going now |
| 22:48.48 | cncfanatics | files.wowace.com is evil imho :p |
| 22:48.57 | Funkeh` | wierd |
| 22:49.00 | Josh_Borke | no one cares about your opinion cnc |
| 22:49.04 | Funkeh` | the error pages said it processed it |
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| 22:49.09 | Funkeh` | but it's not on the list |
| 22:49.16 | Josh_Borke | i'm guessing it's still updating |
| 22:49.21 | Josh_Borke | course, i don't know when it actually runs |
| 22:49.41 | Xinhuan | oh i see |
| 22:49.49 | Dashkal | I've made the (probably quite foolish) design call to support as many "standard" option systems as possible. Meaning I want to support rockconfig, ace3, and blizzard's 2.4 panel |
| 22:49.52 | Xinhuan | PerformanceFu divides by 1024, OptionHouse divides by 1000 |
| 22:49.55 | Dashkal | that third one scares me |
| 22:50.27 | Funkeh` | guess I'll wait 10 mintues and see |
| 22:50.28 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: divide by 1000? lol? |
| 22:50.34 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 22:50.35 | Dashkal | mmm, SI for data at rest |
| 22:50.47 | Xinhuan | for the KB -> MB conversion |
| 22:50.51 | NeoTron | well technically speaking |
| 22:50.58 | NeoTron | KB = 1000, KiB = 1024 |
| 22:51.03 | Xinhuan | because the API returns in kb |
| 22:51.07 | Dashkal | Why they decided to use SI for data in transit and leave data at rest at 1024 I'll never understand |
| 22:51.10 | Xinhuan | no the funny thing is |
| 22:51.11 | Nandini | PerformanceFu correctly uses MiB as its abbreviation |
| 22:51.26 | Xinhuan | both PerformanceFu AND Optionhouse use "MiB" as the abbreviation |
| 22:51.28 | Xinhuan | and KiB |
| 22:51.36 | Xinhuan | so one of them is using it inaccurately/wrongly |
| 22:51.37 | NeoTron | so Optionhouse is made of fail |
| 22:51.47 | NeoTron | if PFU uses 1024, it is correct |
| 22:51.49 | Funkeh` | blame Shadowed |
| 22:52.40 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 22:52.58 | Xinhuan | the numbers match if i *1024/1000 |
| 22:54.46 | Yssaril | whats the difference between ""UNIT_AURA" and "UNIT_AURASTATE" |
| 22:55.07 | cncfanatics | I think one is for permanent auras |
| 22:55.10 | cncfanatics | and one for temporaries |
| 22:55.13 | NeoTron | one is the unit aura and the other is the unit aurastate. zomg |
| 22:55.13 | cncfanatics | :unsure: |
| 22:55.26 | NeoTron | I aim to help |
| 22:55.39 | Yssaril | NeoTron: rofl :P i understood that much :P |
| 22:56.33 | cncfanatics | Yssaril: I think I'm right |
| 22:56.36 | cncfanatics | one would be for totems & shit |
| 22:56.43 | cncfanatics | the other one for auras & blood pact & shit |
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| 22:57.21 | Yssaril | so for buff/debuff frames jsut register for both and update if its the unit i am interested in? |
| 22:57.48 | zanthor | hey guys..... does anyone else have problems with recount and sharedmedia200 |
| 22:57.51 | Grum | yeah i think so |
| 22:57.52 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63849 10StatBlocks/Libs/: StatBlocks: Point externals to trunk not beta branch.... Should now appear on files.wowace.com |
| 22:57.54 | Funkeh` | Nandini, *cough* |
| 22:58.29 | Nandini | hooray |
| 22:58.56 | zanthor | as in the changelog says it was updated to use 3.0 but the mod still points to 2.0 |
| 22:59.56 | Nandini | i think there were some difficulties with 2.0 preventing textures from being registered with 3.0 or something like that |
| 23:00.26 | Nandini | which made 2.0 the safer alternative temporarily (was very sleepy when that conversation took place) |
| 23:01.00 | zanthor | well recount is busted unless i change 3 lines of code |
| 23:01.16 | zanthor | every time i run ace updater that is |
| 23:01.19 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63850 10StatBlocks_Latency/ (. StatBlocks_Latency.lua): StatBlocks_Latency: bugfix updating font |
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| 23:08.11 | ausmara | Funkeh`, did you take over development of NECB for 2.4? |
| 23:08.20 | Funkeh` | not by myself |
| 23:08.30 | Funkeh` | it's a shred effort |
| 23:08.33 | Funkeh` | shared |
| 23:08.47 | ausmara | Any alpha or beta available yet? |
| 23:08.58 | Dashkal | oo, NECB is surviving? I may have to peek at that yet |
| 23:09.01 | Funkeh` | nope |
| 23:10.01 | Xinhuan | i should buy a bigger monitor |
| 23:10.06 | Xinhuan | but i have no money :( |
| 23:10.41 | Nandini | maybe you should put a donate button in some of your addon configs :P |
| 23:10.59 | Nandini | woohoo let's rekindle a months old controversy! |
| 23:11.05 | Xinhuan | heheh |
| 23:11.46 | Xinhuan | many of my addons aren't one-man effort |
| 23:12.14 | Xinhuan | so i can't really do that |
| 23:12.31 | Nandini | correct, thats why you put your paypal address in and steal their well deserved rewards! bwahahaha |
| 23:13.02 | Nandini | or just ninja update some other people's addons with your paypal address and see how long it takes them to notice :P |
| 23:13.04 | Xinhuan | some of these addons aren't even mine in the first place |
| 23:13.20 | Matrix110 | how big is your current monitor? |
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| 23:13.34 | Xinhuan | i merely took over them and as timed passed, it became necessary to rewrite the whole thing |
| 23:13.40 | Xinhuan | oh i use 2x17" atm |
| 23:13.44 | Nandini | or even better, ninja update the framework and override all donate links with your own. heheh |
| 23:13.57 | Nandini | i use 2x19", but i'd rather have one widescreen smaller monitor |
| 23:14.02 | RaydenUni | http://wow.curse.com/c/patch240/battle-suns-reach/ |
| 23:14.09 | RaydenUni | wow that looks really cool |
| 23:14.18 | Xinhuan | i sometimes half wonder if a really big monitor is better than 2 smaller ones |
| 23:14.18 | Matrix110 | i love my 22" but only got 1 screen but dont really need 2 anyway |
| 23:14.22 | Xinhuan | like |
| 23:14.27 | Xinhuan | would a 24" replace 2x17"? |
| 23:14.38 | Matrix110 | from the size? no |
| 23:14.47 | Cheads | if you need two monitors.. the no =) |
| 23:14.50 | Matrix110 | for 2x17" you would need just resoltion wise a 30" |
| 23:15.03 | Matrix110 | 17" s are 1280x960 or? |
| 23:15.14 | Xinhuan | non-wide |
| 23:15.16 | Nandini | a 29"-31" monitor would give you the same real estate as 2x19" |
| 23:15.22 | Cheads | I have a nice cheap 22" samsung 226bw |
| 23:15.34 | Matrix110 | 226bw is not cheap:P |
| 23:15.35 | Nandini | so 24" would probably be close to 2x17" |
| 23:16.14 | Primer | curse.com seems to have some CSS issues |
| 23:16.22 | Cheads | it's cheap for a 22inch.. |
| 23:16.25 | Primer | text over text, mainly. See that a lot |
| 23:16.25 | Xinhuan | there aren't really anymore games that dont' support wide-screen right? |
| 23:17.07 | Cheads | I haven't run into any for a long time |
| 23:17.12 | Nandini | if there aren't, if you have a good video driver, just use a 4:3 res and lose some pixels :/ |
| 23:17.25 | Matrix110 | ye |
| 23:17.46 | Matrix110 | and good monitors upscale the image really nice |
| 23:17.51 | Fin | oh jesus |
| 23:18.01 | Cheads | yeah it's a lot better now |
| 23:18.27 | Matrix110 | My HP w2207h upscales really nice |
| 23:18.35 | Fin | it's the first time this has happened to me... I made a reference to something from what I thought was popular media, and the people I was speaking to had never heard of it - because they're too young |
| 23:18.44 | Fin | I thought EVERYONE had heard of Ming the Merciless |
| 23:19.11 | Matrix110 | you mean Ming=rogue blog guy? |
| 23:19.15 | Xinhuan | infamous media you mean |
| 23:19.24 | Fin | I thought so! |
| 23:19.31 | Fin | but apparently not anymore! |
| 23:19.34 | RaydenUni | it's for distributed computing |
| 23:19.42 | Cheads | flash gordon thing I assume? |
| 23:20.26 | Fin | yes |
| 23:20.29 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 23:20.31 | RaydenUni | wrong channel |
| 23:20.35 | Matrix110 | oh flash gordon...iam too young for that:P |
| 23:21.03 | Matrix110 | although i watched the cartoon sometimes |
| 23:21.05 | Cheads | me too.. im from '75 =) |
| 23:21.34 | Matrix110 | uhm ok iam a bit older:P |
| 23:22.08 | Cheads | wasn't flash gordon popular in the late 70s early 80s? |
| 23:22.23 | Matrix110 | it was |
| 23:22.33 | Matrix110 | but they showed the cartoon when i was young aswell sometimes |
| 23:22.50 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63852 10StatBlocks_Clock/ (. StatBlocks_Clock.lua StatBlocks_Clock.toc): StatBlocks_Clock: initial commit, with extra option: 12/24 hour |
| 23:23.04 | Cheads | ah the comic strip from '34? =) |
| 23:23.13 | Hrack | that's a lot of initial commits. |
| 23:23.17 | Hrack | strange |
| 23:23.45 | Matrix110 | not really because ever module needs their own initial commit:P |
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| 23:28.03 | NivFreak | wtb more macro slots =/ |
| 23:29.03 | Hjalte | NivFreak: I think there are addons that can give you more. |
| 23:29.13 | Funkeh` | definately |
| 23:29.14 | Hjalte | NivFreak: Also, have you tried IHML? |
| 23:29.25 | NivFreak | never heard of it |
| 23:29.47 | Hjalte | NivFreak: Saved me 7-8 boss macros |
| 23:29.54 | NivFreak | what is it? |
| 23:30.18 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63853 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): .trunk: StatBlocks_* toc tweaks and logtemplate |
| 23:30.28 | Matrix110 | Its I have macros lol |
| 23:30.29 | Hjalte | NivFreak: http://wowace.com/wiki/IHML |
| 23:31.25 | NivFreak | nope |
| 23:31.28 | NivFreak | won't save me any really |
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| 23:32.14 | Matrix110 | If that doesnt help you i wonder what kind of macros you got |
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| 23:34.09 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63854 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): .trunk: StatBlocks_* Use a step of 0.01 for scaling, note that you can use the mouse wheel to adjust this. |
| 23:35.01 | Xinhuan | oh is your clock server or local time? |
| 23:35.15 | Funkeh` | local |
| 23:35.40 | Funkeh` | don't you dare ask for server |
| 23:35.50 | Xinhuan | /shrug :) |
| 23:35.58 | Yssaril | Funkeh`: can i have server time please :P |
| 23:36.25 | Funkeh` | >.< |
| 23:36.28 | Xinhuan | the time zone between me and the server is like 10-12 hours apart |
| 23:36.47 | Xinhuan | and for the rest of the guild, usually 8-10 hours apart depending on DST |
| 23:37.01 | Funkeh` | make a _serverclock |
| 23:37.04 | Funkeh` | and you can ahve both |
| 23:37.08 | Xinhuan | blame, australia, USA, canada, and NZ for all having different starting DSt dates :D |
| 23:37.15 | Xinhuan | i hate whoeever invented DST lol |
| 23:37.42 | Funkeh` | nods? |
| 23:37.45 | Dashkal | nogs |
| 23:37.50 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 23:37.53 | Dashkal | nog -> empathic nod |
| 23:37.58 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:38.03 | nevcairiel | whats so bad about a simple switch or tooltip that displays the server time on mouseover ? :P |
| 23:38.05 | Dashkal | Came from an old mud I used to play on |
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| 23:40.46 | Xinhuan | i need 8 more librams to reach exalted with dire maul ;d |
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| 23:40.54 | Grum | lol |
| 23:42.39 | Xinhuan | but need more librams on AH |
| 23:42.44 | Xinhuan | and umm, pristine diamonds |
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| 23:43.00 | Grum | hehe |
| 23:43.08 | Grum | poor Xin |
| 23:43.13 | Grum | how much did you already do? |
| 23:43.27 | Xinhuan | i'm at 16200/21000 |
| 23:43.30 | Xinhuan | so 8 books |
| 23:43.44 | Xinhuan | no wait it should be 10 books |
| 23:43.47 | Xinhuan | 500 each |
| 23:44.27 | Xinhuan | after that, i'm doing the steamwheedel cartel, this one is hard |
| 23:44.30 | Xinhuan | 0.5 rep per kill |
| 23:44.57 | Xinhuan | i always get bored after 30 minutes |
| 23:44.58 | Dklein | mh, if you want to farm steamweedle |
| 23:45.03 | Xinhuan | and then go back and code something |
| 23:45.08 | Xinhuan | instead of farming |
| 23:45.11 | Dklein | free knot! in Diremaul = 350 repu for the whole cartell |
| 23:45.22 | Xinhuan | free knot requires clearing to it |
| 23:45.31 | Xinhuan | i can kill 700 mobs faster than clearing to it |
| 23:46.22 | Xinhuan | i've figured out that i can get about 200 rep per hour near booty bay ;d |
| 23:46.23 | Xinhuan | kiling 400 mobs |
| 23:46.29 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: so... why? |
| 23:46.33 | Xinhuan | maybe free knot isn't that bad |
| 23:47.07 | Xinhuan | its a bit difficult to solo the lvl 60 boss to get the key to freeknot |
| 23:47.23 | Dklein | which class? |
| 23:47.30 | Xinhuan | mage |
| 23:47.34 | Dklein | hum, k |
| 23:47.54 | Xinhuan | not saying its not doable |
| 23:48.11 | Xinhuan | but its difficult, without much running room |
| 23:48.16 | nevcairiel | doesnt the shackle key drop like from all those guards randomly? |
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| 23:48.19 | nevcairiel | those arent that hard |
| 23:48.29 | Xinhuan | i thought they only drop from the 3 guards? |
| 23:48.40 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18250 |
| 23:48.48 | nevcairiel | random from all mobs there, higher chance on guards |
| 23:48.52 | Xinhuan | they have twice as much hp as rattlegore and hits 3x as hard |
| 23:49.16 | Xinhuan | 3% yuck |
| 23:49.36 | Xinhuan | who remembers the approximate hp of a gordok brute |
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| 23:50.00 | nevcairiel | 14k |
| 23:50.05 | nevcairiel | according to wowhead |
| 23:50.18 | Xinhuan | so about 7 frostbolts to kill one |
| 23:50.22 | Xinhuan | or 30 seconds minimum |
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| 23:50.46 | Funkeh` | Nandini, statblocks should now be downloadable, as well as all th eplugins |
| 23:53.54 | Xinhuan | so i can't solo scholomance because |
| 23:53.58 | Xinhuan | the skeles are immune to magic |
| 23:54.05 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 23:54.26 | nevcairiel | the room down there sucks anyway, even on 70 |
| 23:54.39 | nevcairiel | (alone, i mean) |
| 23:54.54 | nevcairiel | i can do pretty much complete scholomance when i spec feral |
| 23:54.57 | nevcairiel | just not that room |
| 23:55.15 | sb | thank you nevcairiel :o |
| 23:55.28 | Xinhuan | i walk all the way to rattlegore and clear his whole room and ratlegore for the skin of shadows i need |
| 23:55.34 | Xinhuan | and DE his blue for the shards hehe |
| 23:55.50 | nevcairiel | i helped a 60 pally some time ago for the mount quest |
| 23:55.58 | nevcairiel | we like destroyed 5 skin of shadow |
| 23:56.02 | nevcairiel | who needs that crap :P |
| 23:56.07 | Dklein | <- |
| 23:56.09 | Xinhuan | cry |
| 23:56.18 | sacarasc | heh, yeah, i destroyed many of them helping a pally friend in scholo |
| 23:56.33 | sacarasc | (we duoed the quest when we were both level 63 ;o) |
| 23:56.40 | Xinhuan | i'll be lucky if i can even get 2 per run |
| 23:56.44 | Xinhuan | let alone 5 |
| 23:56.58 | nevcairiel | i'm always lucky with useless drops :D |
| 23:57.19 | nevcairiel | i've been trying to get the new repair bot recipe on my warrior for so long now. . just wont drop |
| 23:57.56 | nevcairiel | not that i'll build it, its rather expensive compared to the original bot |
| 23:57.58 | nevcairiel | but still :P |
| 23:58.07 | Dashkal | I find it cheap given it's x5 per build |
| 23:58.12 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 23:58.19 | Shadowed | oh |
| 23:58.27 | Shadowed | I think Tekkub is to blame for OH using KiB and MiB |
| 23:58.43 | Xinhuan | haha Shadowed |
| 23:58.49 | Dashkal | I used that thing to get to 375. cheaper than the other levelers round that skill |
| 23:58.51 | Tekkub | You would think that, except you wrote OH |
| 23:58.54 | Xinhuan | well go fix either the calculation, or the abbreviation :D |
| 23:58.55 | Shadowed | i didn't write OH |
| 23:59.07 | Shadowed | you and clad designed a lot of it then i had to finish it up cause you guys are lazy |
| 23:59.11 | nevcairiel | khorium power core is rather expensive .. but yeah .. may be slightly cheaper then 5 original bots with the loads of thorium |
| 23:59.27 | nevcairiel | i wanted to create some new ones for my guild .. guess i'll try to farm the new one again :P |
| 23:59.29 | Tekkub | yea, we designed you wrote |
| 23:59.45 | Xinhuan | i was like hmm why the heck do the numbers not match |
| 23:59.47 | Shadowed | lies |
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| 23:59.53 | Dashkal | the new ones are also hot since each of them has at least one of each unstable hp/mana pot and reagents |
