| 00:00.09 | ulic | hi2u: dewdrop menus much easier than commandline |
| 00:00.18 | Ellipsis | each bar can be unlocked individually |
| 00:00.20 | Bruners | hi2u: /quartz ->player and unhock locked |
| 00:00.38 | sag_ich_nicht | can i streams DVD into WoW with da movieframz |
| 00:00.38 | hi2u | thanks a lot |
| 00:00.39 | Viper0000 | anyone know why my inflight is strugglign to hook into quartz? |
| 00:00.46 | Viper0000 | it hooks, but unhooks after like 2seconds |
| 00:01.18 | Viper0000 | and reverts to it's own flight bar |
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| 00:02.16 | Primer | Viper0000: flightbar? |
| 00:02.32 | Primer | my curiosity is piqued! |
| 00:02.37 | Viper0000 | ya |
| 00:02.43 | Primer | what is it? what does it do? |
| 00:03.00 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/84892 <--what is happening to me D: |
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| 00:03.52 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: your fail is contagious |
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| 00:04.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis no seriously |
| 00:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | where did that come from |
| 00:04.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean there was no stacktrace |
| 00:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 00:05.10 | Bruners | Is parrot under a complete rewrite or? |
| 00:05.44 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: try swatter, it sometimes catches stack traces that buggrabber doesn't |
| 00:06.17 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r67577 10DaHud/modules/Icons/Core.lua: |
| 00:06.17 | CIA-9 | DaHud: |
| 00:06.17 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: really? weird oO |
| 00:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart vhaarr |
| 00:06.45 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after vhaarr's head |
| 00:06.50 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG RABBIT |
| 00:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i couldn |
| 00:07.06 | sag_ich_nicht | 't reproduce it yet |
| 00:08.22 | NeoTron | we clearly needs a YouTube("url") frame object in WoW |
| 00:08.31 | NeoTron | so we can link youtube videos in-game |
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| 00:10.47 | Loonacy | YouTubeUrl.Send("NeoTron","RickRoll") |
| 00:10.49 | AbsoRayne | ckknight: Something in your post in the Suggestions List got cencored. |
| 00:10.57 | ckknight | yes, Ano |
| 00:11.00 | ckknight | in Another |
| 00:11.03 | ckknight | I'm like wtf |
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| 00:11.10 | Ellipsis | o.O; |
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| 00:11.35 | Loonacy | Damn ck, how dare you say Ano? My ears are bleeding! |
| 00:11.57 | AbsoRayne | Also, since youre here ckknight, I have a question. Is it possible to change the font for Chinchilla? |
| 00:12.05 | ckknight | there's a font? |
| 00:12.08 | ckknight | you mean for the coords et al? |
| 00:12.13 | AbsoRayne | Yeah and Zone Text |
| 00:12.39 | ckknight | AbsoRayne: go to http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CHIN, file a ticket asking for SharedMedia font support |
| 00:12.49 | AbsoRayne | Alright, thanks. :) |
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| 00:13.02 | ckknight | it'll get done |
| 00:13.21 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn * r67578 10Antagonist/Data/Buffs.lua: Antagonist: no, VE shouldn't be in the aura timers. |
| 00:13.37 | ckknight | AbsoRayne: I really, really hope that those functions get implemented |
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| 00:13.46 | ckknight | it would make my life _so_ much easier |
| 00:13.50 | AbsoRayne | Ill just put it as Minor, or should I put it higher? |
| 00:13.52 | JJSheets | what functions? |
| 00:14.03 | ckknight | JJSheets: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&sid=1&pageNo=25 |
| 00:14.09 | ckknight | AbsoRayne: major |
| 00:14.11 | kergoth | grr, why does pt3bar sometimes not havei cons |
| 00:14.26 | ckknight | JJSheets: it'd be extremely useful for CurseProfiler 2.0, but also other addons as well |
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| 00:15.07 | AbsoRayne | Done |
| 00:15.15 | ckknight | thanks |
| 00:15.18 | AbsoRayne | np :) |
| 00:15.39 | JJSheets | ckknight, did you put all those lulz in there, or is that more April 1 shenanigans? |
| 00:15.45 | ckknight | April 1 |
| 00:15.50 | Bruners | a gold selling spammer with <DND>, even they are annoyed of the spamming |
| 00:15.52 | JJSheets | Thought so. |
| 00:16.12 | Chompers | ckk, what's your paladin called? |
| 00:16.18 | Yssaril | is there anyway to setup a pattern that will match something between 2 characters? say 1:2:3 want my match to be 2 |
| 00:16.24 | NeoTron | Chompers: "Bignoob" |
| 00:16.28 | ckknight | Chompers: Glenda on Cenarion Circle |
| 00:16.33 | ckknight | Chompers: Draenei |
| 00:16.53 | ckknight | Yssaril: x:match(":(.+):") |
| 00:17.06 | ckknight | NeoTron: that hurted my feelings |
| 00:17.22 | NeoTron | ckknight: *bam* |
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| 00:18.17 | Mytos | mornin kiddies |
| 00:18.25 | ckknight | morning |
| 00:18.30 | Loonacy | Don't you have a 70 yet ck? |
| 00:18.58 | Yssaril | ckknight, dosnt work string.match ("|cffffff00|Hquest:8346:3|h[Thirst Unending]|h|r", '":(.+):"') |
| 00:19.05 | Yssaril | lua> string.match ("|cffffff00|Hquest:8346:3|h[Thirst Unending]|h|r", '":(.+):"') |
| 00:19.05 | lua_bot | Yssaril: nil |
| 00:19.39 | Yssaril | lua> string.match ("|cffffff00|Hquest:8346:3|h[Thirst Unending]|h|r", ':%d+:') |
| 00:19.39 | lua_bot | Yssaril: :8346: |
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| 00:20.07 | hypetech | most of the raid is only able to see themselves on the latest omen rev 67544 |
| 00:20.07 | Yssaril | want that but without the : on each side (i mean i could gsub them out but that seams messy) |
| 00:20.36 | JJSheets | lua> string.match ("|cffffff00|Hquest:8346:3|h[Thirst Unending]|h|r", '":([^:]+):"') |
| 00:20.36 | lua_bot | JJSheets: nil |
| 00:20.44 | ckknight | lua> string.match ("|cffffff00|Hquest:8346:3|h[Thirst Unending]|h|r", 'quest:(%d+):%d+') |
| 00:20.44 | lua_bot | ckknight: 8346 |
| 00:20.57 | Loonacy | Omen is r67499, threat-2.0 is r67544. |
| 00:21.00 | JJSheets | bah |
| 00:21.30 | Yssaril | lua> string.match ("|cffffff00|Hquest:8346:3|h[Thirst Unending]|h|r", ':(%d+):') |
| 00:21.31 | lua_bot | Yssaril: 8346 |
| 00:21.47 | Yssaril | ckknight, thanks man |
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| 00:24.10 | Daemona | eyyonix post on rollhacks gets a great touch by the april 1st code ,) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10271177&sid=1 |
| 00:24.47 | ckknight | Yssaril: strongly recommend my way over yours |
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| 00:25.56 | CIA-9 | 03chuanhsing * r67579 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Dalliah.lua: LittleWigs: update zhTW |
| 00:26.03 | Primer | it's alive!! |
| 00:26.05 | Primer | except |
| 00:26.15 | Primer | I don't see the "addons" tab in the interface options any more |
| 00:26.21 | Primer | what does it take to get that there? |
| 00:27.41 | Loonacy | Primer: I think it automatically shows if you have an addon coded to use that tab. |
| 00:27.56 | Primer | yeah, I'd like to have that |
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| 00:28.47 | Primer | guess I need to find an example |
| 00:29.03 | hi2u | is there anyway to remove the quartz timer for releasing spirit upon death? lol |
| 00:29.08 | Loonacy | Right now I've got Cellular, EavesDrop, Omen, and Witch Hunt in there. |
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| 00:29.25 | Primer | Loonacy: I'll check omen then, thanks |
| 00:30.14 | WobWork | "Another popular theory I want to touch on is "streaks" lol. People like to see patterns where none exist I lol'd IRL. " |
| 00:30.17 | Loonacy | hi2u: I believe that's the "Mirror" bar. You could turn on Blizzard Mirror Bars and disable the Quartz Mirror Bars. |
| 00:30.25 | Loonacy | WobWork: lolcatz |
| 00:30.31 | kergoth | Julith: Message: ..\AddOns\MobSpells\MobSpells.lua line 207: |
| 00:30.31 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.40 | hypetech | If you just download the zip file for omen from files.wowace.com do you need to get Threat-2.0 also seperatley, or is it included in the download there? |
| 00:31.05 | hi2u | ahh I see |
| 00:31.07 | hi2u | thank you lua_bot |
| 00:31.08 | hi2u | Loonacy* |
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| 00:31.28 | NeoTron | Daemona: hahah "are displayed in yellow text to distinguish them from emotes which are orange lolcats." |
| 00:31.35 | Julith | kergoth: mom, currently playing grid-test-valley :) |
| 00:31.39 | WobWork | hypetech: included |
| 00:31.40 | NeoTron | I didn't know emotes were orange lolcats but alas, now I do |
| 00:32.09 | Loonacy | hypetech: The file linked to from files.wowace.com include externals. You'd only need to get the externals if you specifically downloaded files.wowace.com/Omen/no-ext/Whatever |
| 00:32.26 | CIA-9 | 03kergoth * r67580 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar.lua: PT3Bar: Fix the long standing bug where buttons would end up having no visible item texture. |
| 00:32.37 | kergoth | that one's been bugging me for like over a year, i swear |
| 00:32.46 | Bruners | where can i find 2.4.1 changes? |
| 00:33.20 | chuanhsing | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.2 |
| 00:33.40 | hi2u | okay one more quartz question :$ |
| 00:33.42 | hi2u | for the global cooldown |
| 00:33.46 | kergoth | now to figure out why sometimes a pt3bar buttonw ill have a popout with just the one item itself in it, and why buttons have no tooltips if they have no popout |
| 00:33.46 | Loonacy | worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes |
| 00:33.49 | hi2u | when it says primary and backup spell |
| 00:33.56 | hi2u | does that mean it will only track cds of two spells? ;\ |
| 00:34.07 | kergoth | then maybe a little pt3bar configuration addon is in order |
| 00:34.48 | Loonacy | hi2u: You're talking about the global cooldown, right? |
| 00:34.51 | hi2u | yeah |
| 00:35.20 | Loonacy | It's best to pick a spell that will NEVER have a cooldown, like Track Undead or something like that. |
| 00:35.36 | hi2u | er, what's the point of it then? |
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| 00:35.43 | Loonacy | It tracks global cooldown. |
| 00:35.46 | Bruners | chuanhsing: thanks |
| 00:35.49 | Loonacy | That's the whole point. |
| 00:35.58 | Julith | kergoth: do you already had MobSpells installed previously? |
| 00:36.00 | hi2u | how about if i want to track cooldown of like |
| 00:36.02 | hi2u | Silence? |
| 00:36.06 | NivFreak | gdi |
| 00:36.06 | hi2u | can quartz do that? |
| 00:36.10 | NivFreak | they better not fix my UD weapon size |
| 00:36.11 | kergoth | quartz isnt a cooldown monitor |
| 00:36.14 | NivFreak | I love huge weapons |
| 00:36.16 | kergoth | it has a gcd indicator, thats all |
| 00:36.28 | Xuerian | Hizu: it is not a cooldown tracking mod |
| 00:36.34 | Loonacy | You probably want Chronometer |
| 00:36.35 | hi2u | kk |
| 00:36.36 | Xuerian | It simply shows you the GCD timer |
| 00:36.38 | hi2u | ty |
| 00:36.50 | kergoth | cooldowntimers2, hourglass, cooldownbuttons, there are lots of cd tracking addons |
| 00:37.01 | hi2u | okay ty |
| 00:39.14 | Primer | ok, seems that stuff is not as automagic as I thought |
| 00:40.08 | kergoth | Julith: yeah |
| 00:40.17 | kergoth | Julith: should i reset ethe SV? |
| 00:40.40 | Julith | make a backup of your MobSpells-savedvariables and delete it |
| 00:40.44 | Julith | yes |
| 00:41.09 | NivFreak | I don't understand how this BM hunter spam macro works |
| 00:41.12 | NivFreak | so odd |
| 00:41.52 | kergoth | what's not to understand? |
| 00:42.09 | WobWork | hunterspam macro ftl |
| 00:42.13 | WobWork | lrn2play |
| 00:42.29 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.33 | Bruners | NivFreak: just click the button 10 times a second |
| 00:42.35 | NivFreak | why doesn't that clip? |
| 00:42.39 | NivFreak | I'm not a hunter |
| 00:42.47 | NivFreak | I just don't understand why it stops clipping |
| 00:42.59 | vithos | NivFreak: because the auto shot has to fire before it will try to cast another steady shot |
| 00:43.08 | NivFreak | ahhh |
| 00:43.24 | vithos | that's the 1:1 macro. there's far weirder ones than that |
| 00:43.26 | NivFreak | interesting |
| 00:43.27 | Julith | muha! took MemoryUsage of GridManaBars from 800KiB to 31KiB (or at least this is whats Performance fu tells me) |
| 00:43.40 | vithos | 3:2 macro - /cast !Auto Shot /cast Steady Shot |
| 00:43.47 | Geeks | dylan: hmm, thanks for the reply |
| 00:43.51 | Geeks | (was distracted) |
| 00:43.54 | NivFreak | and the ratio you're after depends on gun speed? |
| 00:44.03 | Loonacy | PerformanceFu is just being nice, it wants you to have its babies. |
| 00:44.13 | vithos | yeah, 3:2 is better for slower weapons |
| 00:44.24 | Loonacy | NivFreak: It depends on your bow speed, actually. |
| 00:44.31 | NivFreak | so let's see |
| 00:44.32 | Geeks | the MBB code is question does: local innerframe = select(1, ...); |
| 00:44.36 | vithos | but it can be unreliable, depending on your latency and latency jitter |
| 00:44.40 | kergoth | NivFreak: from what i can tell, a /cast !Auto Shot doesn't move on, sequence wise, until the next shot fired. so you wont move to steady until after the next autoshot fires, so you can just spam the hell out of it, and the next steady will always immediately follow the autoshot |
| 00:44.49 | Geeks | then local innerframe = select(1, ...); |
| 00:45.01 | Geeks | oops then innerframe.ohide(select(1, ...)); |
| 00:45.41 | Geeks | this is in a closure function buttonframe.Hide = function(...) |
| 00:45.42 | NivFreak | so with a 2.9 speed weapon, you'd want to use a 3:2? |
| 00:46.04 | vithos | NivFreak: most likely, as long as the macro behaves well for you |
| 00:46.17 | Mytos | my hunter is only lvl49, what does steady shot even do? |
| 00:46.28 | vithos | the 3:2 rotation is supposed to be 2 steadies, then 1 steady, then 2 steadies |
| 00:46.28 | NivFreak | Mytos: your primary DPS shot :) |
| 00:47.13 | vithos | there's also the 1:1.x rotation, which has the 1:1 castsequence followed by /castrandom Multi-Shot, Arcane Shot |
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| 00:48.07 | hypetech | some of my guildies are reporting issues with ora2 that they get a lag spike whenever someone joins/leaves the raid |
| 00:48.14 | vithos | the castrandom part only ever goes off when the castsequence is on the auto part |
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| 00:48.48 | NivFreak | vithos: so what's optimal for dps? |
| 00:48.57 | NivFreak | with a 2.9 speed weapon |
| 00:49.11 | vithos | NivFreak: depends on a lot more than just weapon speed |
| 00:49.20 | vithos | NivFreak: i recommend Cheeky's spreadsheet |
| 00:49.40 | NivFreak | k, I'll look for it |
| 00:49.47 | vithos | it's on EJ |
| 00:49.52 | NivFreak | yea, I figured |
| 00:49.58 | NivFreak | are they all spam macros? |
| 00:50.04 | kergoth | cheeky's spreadsheet is awesome |
| 00:50.14 | WobWork | it's also dependant on what 'speedup' skills you have |
| 00:50.20 | WobWork | like serpent swiftness |
| 00:50.31 | vithos | yes those 3 macros are spam macros |
| 00:50.39 | NivFreak | Basically, one of our BM hunters went from a Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle (2.7) to Arcanite Steam-Pistol (2.9) and his dps went down |
| 00:50.46 | NivFreak | so I'm trying to help him figure it out |
| 00:50.48 | WobWork | spam macros just seem so huntardy |
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| 00:51.22 | vithos | WobWork: i hate them personally, but until the delink autos from specials i'm going to keep using them |
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| 00:52.16 | WobWork | well, y'see.. that's where timing comes into it |
| 00:52.23 | Bruners | using a macro instead of doing it manual makes you able to actually have your eyes on something else than just your swing timer |
| 00:52.32 | vithos | Bruners: exactly |
| 00:52.48 | WobWork | any hunter that gets a new weapon with a different speed, should go hit DrBoom til they get used to the new weapon |
| 00:53.14 | WobWork | rather than devolve your entire dps to a single button mash |
| 00:53.33 | kenlyric | Bruners: eyes on your kill command proccing :) |
| 00:53.48 | WobWork | pft, that's what sct is for |
| 00:53.56 | kenlyric | well, that's still eyes |
| 00:54.03 | kenlyric | away from your swing timer |
| 00:54.04 | WobWork | nah, sound triggers =) |
| 00:54.15 | WobWork | "Go for the eyes, Boo!" |
| 00:54.31 | WobWork | I KC twitch on my non hunters each time I crit |
| 00:54.32 | kenlyric | look, I just miss weaving it in the mash macro :) |
| 00:55.00 | kergoth | its true, you can time your sequence from the shoot sound, always wonder if its right though, have to look |
| 00:55.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:55.14 | Bruners | kergoth: not with a gun |
| 00:55.22 | WobWork | it's like how I -really- need to change my hotkey for stealth to not be the same hotkey on my hunter for send pet in |
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| 00:55.58 | kenlyric | stealth is kill command for my rogue/hunter |
| 00:56.00 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r67581 10DaHud/modules/Text/Text.lua: |
| 00:56.00 | CIA-9 | DaHud: |
| 00:56.00 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.05 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r67582 10CrowBar/ (libs/ libs.xml): CrowBar: Added missing AceLocale-3.0 to embeds. |
| 00:56.28 | WobWork | KC is an alt-<key> for me |
| 00:56.31 | WobWork | easier to twitch |
| 00:56.36 | WobWork | than a ctrl-<key> |
| 00:56.48 | kenlyric | it's a Q for me |
| 00:58.08 | Bruners | i have KC on 4 :) |
| 00:58.38 | kenlyric | it's overdue for me to sync all my chars key usage |
| 00:59.00 | Poof | hmm |
| 00:59.04 | Poof | Omen still having issues? |
| 00:59.15 | WobWork | I should totally learn to properly mousemove |
| 00:59.23 | WobWork | but I have such limited mousemovement space |
| 00:59.29 | Bruners | mousemove? |
| 00:59.38 | quiescens | its where you move the mouse |
| 00:59.50 | kenlyric | it helps to just bind a/d to strafe and free up q/e entirely. |
| 01:00.00 | kenlyric | gives you no choice but to learn |
| 01:00.12 | WobWork | I wonder if switching to esdf instead of wasd |
| 01:00.22 | WobWork | would open up more hotkey availability |
| 01:00.24 | Bruners | a/d is bound to strafe here |
| 01:00.32 | kenlyric | you're farthere from the modifier keys |
| 01:00.37 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r67583 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Added Bag slot and Backpack slot buttons types. |
| 01:00.40 | WobWork | true |
| 01:00.56 | JJSheets | I use a Nostromo n52 gamepad. |
| 01:00.57 | WobWork | it's more 'natural' for hand positioning though |
| 01:01.07 | WobWork | I could never justify the purchase of that =P |
| 01:01.23 | JJSheets | I have 14 keys, plus the four directions at easy reach. |
| 01:01.24 | kenlyric | you know, i'm going to try that tomorrow |
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| 01:01.26 | WobWork | I like to think I'm not -completely- obsessed =) |
| 01:01.34 | Bruners | using g15 refresh so kinda need to have my keys on aswd |
| 01:01.38 | Ellipsis | wasd > esdf, G15 keys are too far :P |
| 01:01.47 | on1y | Omen-r67499.1.zip is this the newest omen |
| 01:02.13 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:02.21 | Diao | does anyone use ludwig? |
| 01:02.29 | Diao | oh nm |
| 01:02.29 | Bruners | G4 for recall pet wich is reached with my little finger |
| 01:02.30 | Loonacy | only: That's the latest since I last looked. |
| 01:02.32 | Diao | i see the release notes |
| 01:02.50 | Ellipsis | G4? |
| 01:02.55 | Ellipsis | you must have gigantic hands x.x |
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| 01:03.20 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r67584 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua ThreatUtils.lua): |
| 01:03.20 | CIA-9 | Threat-2.0: |
| 01:03.20 | CIA-9 | - Protocol change to fix issue with non-escaped characters. BACKWARDS INCOMPATIBLE BLAH BLAH YES OLDER CLIENTS ARE BROKEN. |
| 01:03.20 | CIA-9 | - Slightly improved efficiency in comms code |
| 01:03.20 | CIA-9 | - Made tank classes publish threat more often. |
| 01:03.31 | Bruners | i have the new version of g15 with only 6 G-keys |
| 01:03.34 | Stanzilla | <3 Antiarc |
| 01:03.41 | Civrock | Does this fix the lockup issue? |
| 01:03.42 | Poof | Wow =0 |
| 01:03.56 | WobWork | hm, I should castsequence pet attack and BRK button |
| 01:04.03 | WobWork | to reset on target change |
| 01:04.04 | kenlyric | g15 with only 6g keys? |
| 01:04.08 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@71.141.152.230) |
| 01:04.11 | kenlyric | that sorta defies logic |
| 01:04.17 | Antiar1 | Civrock: If it was what I think it was, yes |
| 01:04.22 | WobWork | That's unpossible! |
| 01:04.25 | Civrock | Alright. |
| 01:04.34 | kenlyric | inconceivable |
| 01:04.51 | Bruners | kenlyric: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/mice_keyboards/devices/3498&cl=us,en |
| 01:05.10 | Poof | lol. Omen is going weird =0 |
| 01:05.35 | Bruners | Omen worked great for me, but some reported issues in our raid today |
| 01:05.40 | Ellipsis | oh, you have the new G15 |
| 01:05.42 | Poof | ya |
| 01:05.45 | Poof | People are bitching out it now |
| 01:05.53 | NivFreak | wow |
| 01:05.58 | NivFreak | this spreadsheet is nuts |
| 01:06.04 | NeoTron | but.. does it have sound? |
| 01:06.24 | NeoTron | Bruners: Sorry to hear that |
| 01:06.30 | NeoTron | old G15 > new G15 |
| 01:06.34 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 01:06.45 | Bruners | hehe, i guess its about taste |
| 01:06.48 | NeoTron | I am considering finding aold one so I have an extra |
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| 01:06.53 | Ellipsis | moar buttons > less buttons |
| 01:07.08 | Diao | agree |
| 01:07.18 | Diao | i have an old one and i don't know what i'm going to do if/when it breaks |
| 01:07.18 | Bruners | i dont even use all my g-keys |
| 01:07.25 | Ellipsis | the old one works beautifully, I have no idea why they decided people wanted less buttons...the whole point of the G15 is to have extras |
| 01:07.41 | Ellipsis | I have all my G-keys bound and *still* struggle to find more bindings for spells :P |
| 01:08.09 | Hobby-home | Antiarc, that build will be up at 9:20? |
| 01:08.14 | Bruners | and you are a warlock or mage? |
| 01:08.15 | kenlyric | didn't the old one have 15 keys? |
| 01:08.18 | Ellipsis | lock |
| 01:08.26 | Ellipsis | 18, x3 pages |
| 01:08.34 | kenlyric | oh, ok |
| 01:08.38 | kenlyric | then the name is less stupid |
| 01:08.46 | Yssaril | rofl "stop possible garbage overload that might have been happening " latest KLHTM change :P |
| 01:08.53 | Loonacy | I don't think Antiarc is in here... is he? |
| 01:09.02 | Antiar1 | I am |
| 01:09.03 | Loonacy | Unless Antiar1 is him. |
| 01:09.03 | Antiar1 | Just working |
| 01:09.04 | Antiar1 | Sec |
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| 01:09.16 | Loonacy | Ah, okay... I was looking for you higher up on my list, heh. |
| 01:09.30 | mjc | is the tattle dataminer broken or just not been run on a cronjob lately |
| 01:09.31 | Nandini | it just occurred to me, what does the combat log say now for gathering professions? such as "you perform mining on rich thorium vein" etc. |
| 01:09.35 | Bruners | but i really dont understand why they changed color on the g5 mouse |
| 01:09.51 | Bruners | the old one was a perfect match for the new keyboard |
| 01:10.10 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:10.11 | WobWork | http://www.daskeyboard.com/ |
| 01:10.25 | Nandini | do you get a GUID or ObjectID for the node you're mining/herbing/object you're opening? |
| 01:10.27 | Diao | and the new one is a match for the old keyboard! |
| 01:10.32 | Bruners | anyway, the biggest problem with the old g15 keyboard was the lack of norwegian keysets |
| 01:10.50 | Bruners | thats why i got the new one |
| 01:10.53 | kenlyric | clicking! |
| 01:11.04 | kenlyric | I can toss out my ps/2 keyboards? |
| 01:11.26 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r67585 10Omen/ (13 files in 8 dirs): |
| 01:11.26 | CIA-9 | Omen: |
| 01:11.26 | CIA-9 | - Optimize options calls with a metatable |
| 01:11.26 | CIA-9 | - New FuBar plugin library version |
| 01:11.26 | CIA-9 | - Add title bar to single target mode (optional) |
| 01:11.27 | CIA-9 | - Optimize ArrangeBars a bit |
| 01:11.29 | CIA-9 | - Heavily reduce string garbage generation |
| 01:11.57 | WobWork | kenlyric: I'd totally buy that one |
| 01:11.58 | kenlyric | fuckers |
| 01:12.02 | kenlyric | blank keys are a gimmick |
| 01:12.07 | WobWork | pft |
| 01:12.14 | WobWork | it's the clicky that entices me |
| 01:12.15 | Bruners | silly small enter buttons you US people have |
| 01:12.23 | Ellipsis | the clicky is neat |
| 01:12.32 | kenlyric | Bruners: how big do they need to be? |
| 01:12.35 | Ellipsis | but I want the one that has mini screens on each key |
| 01:12.38 | Diao | enter buttons used to be bigger :o |
| 01:12.44 | kenlyric | does your enter key swoop up and replace |\ |
| 01:12.53 | Ellipsis | Bruners: each key only needs to be big enough for one finger :P |
| 01:12.56 | Bruners | kenlyric: as big as the norwegian ones are:P |
| 01:12.56 | kenlyric | those enter keys were a travesty of justice |
| 01:12.59 | Loonacy | I can't stand when I go to hit \ and I hit Enter instead because it's a stupid giant enter button. |
| 01:13.20 | Ellipsis | norwegians already sacrifice [] |
| 01:14.10 | WobWork | Ellipsis: hehe that'd be cool. but entirely unaffordable =P |
| 01:14.13 | Bruners | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_Norway.svg ftw |
| 01:14.18 | Yssaril | Ellipsis, you want http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/? |
| 01:14.25 | Ellipsis | that's the one |
| 01:14.53 | Bruners | those quite expensive still? |
| 01:15.03 | kenlyric | that enter key is a crime against humanity |
| 01:15.03 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r67586 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - [ItemCount] now returns the number of free slots in a bag or backpack when used with the corresponding button type. |
| 01:15.06 | kenlyric | someone call the UN |
| 01:15.08 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67587 10GemHelper/GemHelper.lua: GemHelper: Move a button slightly. Update comments. Optimize the search function slightly. |
| 01:15.58 | WobWork | http://gadgets.fosfor.se/the-top-10-weirdest-keyboards-ever/ |
| 01:16.09 | Yssaril | Ellipsis, or this one? http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/ |
| 01:16.33 | WobWork | jesus |
| 01:16.37 | WobWork | no no no |
| 01:16.44 | WobWork | non-tactile keys are bad =( |
| 01:16.49 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 01:16.53 | Ellipsis | what WobWork said |
| 01:17.15 | WobWork | although rofl at the video mode |
| 01:17.15 | Ellipsis | I like the concept, but until they combine it with the tactile touch thing they have on the smaller panel, it just won't work |
| 01:18.11 | WobWork | They should have one that's flat |
| 01:18.18 | WobWork | and extrudes keys on command =P |
| 01:18.57 | Yssaril | still the coolest non-tactile keyboard is http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ imo |
| 01:20.37 | Primer | didn't think it was gonna be this much work making my addon work with Ace3 |
| 01:20.40 | Primer | 4/1 18:17:58.938 ...nfig-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua:1515: attempt to index local 'group' (a nil value) |
| 01:20.45 | Primer | Any thoughts on that? |
| 01:21.39 | kergoth | your aceoptions table isnt set up right |
| 01:21.40 | kergoth | pastey? |
| 01:21.50 | Nargiddley | its nothing to do with the options table |
| 01:22.04 | Nargiddley | the BlizOptionsGroup widget isn't being loaded for some reason |
| 01:22.41 | kergoth | oh |
| 01:23.21 | Bruners | so you g15 users, any wow modules for the lcd i should have? |
| 01:23.23 | Primer | yeah, my opts table seems fine |
| 01:23.55 | Ellipsis | Bruners: can't be done, you're stuck with the default |
| 01:24.07 | Bruners | bleh |
| 01:24.15 | Ellipsis | personally I just set up my LCD to show everything non-WoW that I need to see while in-game |
| 01:24.18 | Loonacy | Bruners: Mostly I like to use the Ventrilo module so I know who's talking at me. |
| 01:24.21 | Ellipsis | so I can cut down on alt-tabbing |
| 01:24.36 | Loonacy | Ellipsis has the right idea. |
| 01:24.40 | Bruners | i mostly have it on clock or foobar2k |
| 01:24.48 | NivFreak | vithos: so what's the deciding factor on which of these shot rotations to use? Amount of mana? |
| 01:24.54 | Ellipsis | I usually have vent or foobar, whichever I'm listening to |
| 01:25.06 | NivFreak | vithos: or is it really just whatever is top dps |
| 01:25.10 | Bruners | i know all the voices on vent so no need for that |
| 01:25.16 | Bruners | atleast most of them |
| 01:25.19 | Jaxon | NivFreak: hunter? |
| 01:25.27 | kergoth | NivFreak: i'd suggest that you read the EJ post on shot rotations |
| 01:25.29 | NivFreak | Jaxon: yea |
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| 01:25.49 | NivFreak | kergoth: it's a class I don't even like to play, so I'm try to cut a few corners for cliff notes |
| 01:25.58 | Bruners | NivFreak: for long bossfights i recommend using 1:1 rotation |
| 01:26.05 | NivFreak | so it's really mana |
| 01:26.07 | kergoth | if you're too lazy to read, i don't see the point in trying to help you |
| 01:26.09 | Bruners | atleast that works best for me with my gear |
| 01:26.21 | Jaxon | Those threads are upwards of 60 pages long. The shot rotation you design is based on weapon speed (hasted) and gear. Mana isn't really a concern. |
| 01:26.30 | NivFreak | kergoth: I'm not too lazy to read, there's 60 pages on 9 classes |
| 01:26.40 | NivFreak | so yea, eventually I ask a few direct questions of people ;) |
| 01:26.51 | kergoth | http://www.google.com/search?q=elitistjerks+hunter+shot+rotations&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 01:26.52 | kergoth | first link |
| 01:26.54 | Nimble_Rabit | yay whodrop is working again! |
| 01:26.56 | kergoth | gosh, that was hard |
| 01:27.00 | kergoth | i mean, i had to type 4 whole words |
| 01:27.03 | NivFreak | sigh |
| 01:27.14 | Primer | Nargiddley: so, any thoughts regarding that error? |
| 01:27.23 | NivFreak | I've read that thread before |
| 01:27.32 | Jaxon | kergoth, stop being an ass. There is a shit-ton of information about hunter DPS spread over 60 pages and four patches worth of outdated changes |
| 01:27.38 | Bruners | i have the huge 4mp5 atm on my hunter |
| 01:27.50 | Primer | http://sh.nu/p/24222 |
| 01:27.53 | kergoth | i just told him what to look for, googling for exactly that would have found it |
| 01:27.58 | NivFreak | I spend plenty of time on the EJ forums |
| 01:28.03 | NivFreak | I've read that thread |
| 01:28.07 | Nargiddley | I said whats causing the error. |
| 01:28.11 | Primer | around line 279 |
| 01:28.25 | Primer | <Nargiddley> the BlizOptionsGroup widget isn't being loaded for some reason |
| 01:28.27 | Primer | ? |
| 01:28.30 | Primer | yeah well |
| 01:28.31 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 01:28.36 | Primer | I wish I could turn that into something |
| 01:28.46 | Primer | the "for some reason" part |
| 01:28.52 | kergoth | Jaxon: you must be new to irc, come back when you have a clue about users and their inability to do any research themselves. in the meantime, i'll continue to act how i want to act, and you can fuck off. |
| 01:29.07 | Nargiddley | well I can't get any further than that without alot more information |
| 01:29.10 | Bruners | kergoth :) |
| 01:29.10 | Yssaril | Primer, basically something in your option table is screwed up and ace barfs an error so you can fix it :P |
| 01:29.19 | Nargiddley | Yssaril, no |
| 01:29.25 | Antiarc | FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT |
| 01:29.26 | Yssaril | or not :P |
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| 01:29.29 | Antiarc | Also, holy crap I'm tired. |
| 01:29.32 | Antiarc | My brain hurts. |
| 01:29.49 | Bruners | NivFreak: remember that its theroycrafting, not everything works as well in game |
| 01:30.02 | Nargiddley | How is Ace3 being loaded for you, especially AceGUI |
| 01:30.13 | NivFreak | Bruners: of course |
| 01:30.16 | Primer | err, not sure I am loading AceGUI |
| 01:30.19 | Primer | guess that's it |
| 01:30.33 | Nargiddley | so does the config window not work at all ? |
| 01:30.38 | NivFreak | I'm just trying to understand the primary inputs that a hunter considers when picking a shot rotation |
| 01:30.39 | Primer | I'm not explicitly loading AceGUI |
| 01:30.45 | Jaxon | NivFreak: link to the armory |
| 01:30.48 | Nargiddley | the error you're getting is when registering it for the BlizOptions |
| 01:30.50 | Primer | it currently does not |
| 01:31.05 | Primer | even though I have it in embeds.xml |
| 01:31.37 | Nargiddley | what do you have in embeds.xml ? |
| 01:31.38 | NivFreak | btw |
| 01:31.45 | NivFreak | this hunter spreadsheet is the best one I've ever seen |
| 01:31.49 | Nargiddley | the lua or xml ? |
| 01:31.52 | NivFreak | I wish the warrior TPS one was this niec |
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| 01:31.53 | NivFreak | nice |
| 01:31.56 | Bruners | NivFreak: its really good |
| 01:32.18 | vithos | NivFreak: the rogue one is better than the hunter one :( |
| 01:32.22 | NivFreak | I mean, import straight from the armory? |
| 01:32.22 | NivFreak | wow |
| 01:32.29 | Primer | <Script file="Libs\AceGUI-3.0\AceGUI-3.0.lua"/> |
| 01:32.40 | Nargiddley | well thats the problem |
| 01:32.59 | Nargiddley | change it to <Include file="Libs\AceGUI-3.0\AceGUI-3.0.xml"/> |
| 01:33.01 | Bruners | NivFreak: not sure if the import thingie works |
| 01:33.05 | NivFreak | it does |
| 01:33.08 | vithos | it does |
| 01:33.09 | Primer | ok |
| 01:33.10 | Bruners | NivFreak: not working with my open office |
| 01:33.10 | hypetech | is there anything still using Threat-1.0 or can I delete it? |
| 01:33.13 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67588 10GemHelper/GemHelper.lua: GemHelper: _G[] instead of getglobal() |
| 01:33.16 | NivFreak | Bruners: I'm just using excel |
| 01:33.24 | Antiarc | You can delete it |
| 01:33.42 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, ping |
| 01:33.48 | Xinhuan | yes? |
| 01:33.52 | mjc | Antiarc: i <3 your armory tools btw :P |
| 01:33.53 | Bruners | cant afford buying the MS office pack tbh :P |
| 01:33.55 | Gngsk | did you get my PM from a few hours ago? |
| 01:33.59 | Xinhuan | not sure |
| 01:34.00 | Primer | ahh there we go |
| 01:34.04 | Primer | Nargiddley: thanks |
| 01:34.06 | Xinhuan | was asleep |
| 01:34.17 | Yssaril | what armory tool? |
| 01:34.19 | phanx | Xinhuan... sleeps... ?! |
| 01:34.29 | Xinhuan | yeah i sleep during server maintenance |
| 01:35.21 | Bruners | and we have maintenance now :S |
| 01:35.59 | Primer | bah, the "close" button is obscuring the error text |
| 01:36.06 | Ellipsis | once a week is plenty for Xinhuan to recharge his batteries |
| 01:36.07 | Bruners | time for another x-files episode |
| 01:36.15 | Primer | I guess that won't be in framexml til I exit? |
| 01:37.13 | Yssaril | primer do you use bugsack? |
| 01:37.20 | Primer | Yssaril: I probably should |
| 01:37.43 | Yssaril | makes your life alot easier expecially when you have problems |
| 01:38.01 | Primer | is it in a package called that? |
| 01:38.11 | Bruners | !buggrabber and bugsack |
| 01:38.17 | Yssaril | yep |
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| 01:38.50 | WobWork | Xinhuan does not sleep |
| 01:38.51 | WobWork | He waits. |
| 01:40.25 | CIA-9 | 03whyv * r67589 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster-zhTW.lua: ErrorMonster: add zhTW locale |
| 01:40.32 | kergoth | vithos: hte rogue one is awesome, ilove how it can find you upgrades and all |
| 01:40.38 | Nandini | maces are blunt weapons (use weightstones), correct? |
| 01:40.38 | AbsoRayne | lawl @ the 'Upcoming 2.5 changes' Thread. |
| 01:40.53 | Primer | the trace is too long, and doesn't remain in the console |
| 01:41.03 | vithos | kergoth: yeah, exactly |
| 01:41.08 | mjc | hey kerg |
| 01:41.34 | vithos | kergoth: i also like how the load/save is per-section and not for the (almost) entire sheet |
| 01:42.01 | Yssaril | NeoTron, what does magiccomm do? |
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| 01:43.53 | iKON | Is there a dogtag to check if the mob is elite? |
| 01:44.04 | Gngsk | classification |
| 01:44.16 | Silverstorm | Yssaril: communication for MagicMarker |
| 01:44.25 | Yssaril | k |
| 01:44.34 | Ellipsis | [Classification = "Elite" ? "l33t hax0r"] |
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| 01:44.54 | iKON | thx |
| 01:45.17 | QuantumDelta | *pokies Antiarc* |
| 01:45.21 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.26 | QuantumDelta | <3 |
| 01:45.38 | QuantumDelta | http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintankadin/viewtopic.php?t=7792 Bad advice cuz of your latest reversion? |
| 01:45.45 | QuantumDelta | *my post |
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| 01:47.29 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r67590 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - Fixed bugs and general weirdness about the possess button type. Now functions properly. |
| 01:51.21 | Hobby-home | Is the new omen not built on the WAU yet? |
| 01:51.28 | QuantumDelta | *pokies antiarc again lightly* I don't wanna give out bad advice >_<; |
| 01:51.36 | QuantumDelta | not yet Hobby-home it'll update soon enough :) |
| 01:52.03 | kergoth | Interface/Addons/recount/recount_Modes.lua:469: attempt to idex field '?' (a nil value) |
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| 01:52.06 | kergoth | anyone run into that one? |
| 01:52.12 | kergoth | mjc: hey |
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| 01:53.20 | Silverstorm | so...just locked up on Shade of Akama |
| 01:53.33 | QuantumDelta | how so? |
| 01:53.41 | QuantumDelta | or any idea of cause? ;p |
| 01:53.44 | Hobby-home | i'm confused, i thought builds were every 20 min :/ |
| 01:53.51 | Silverstorm | sounded like everyone who has 67544 of Threat2-0 |
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| 01:54.55 | kebinusan | NeoTron: is it possible to have MM automagically set a target to cc & cctype when it sees something cc'd |
| 01:55.28 | CIA-9 | 03whyv * r67591 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: Skinner: update zhTW |
| 01:55.52 | Civrock | Getting several Threat-2.0 errors with the latest commit. |
| 01:56.38 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r67592 10Omen/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:56.38 | CIA-9 | Omen : |
| 01:56.38 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 01:57.19 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67593 10Postal/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:57.19 | CIA-9 | Postal: - Add Mousewheel scrolling to Inbox frame to Express module. You can turn this off. |
| 01:57.19 | CIA-9 | - Return from localization files early instead of creating and registering unnecessary locale tables. |
| 01:58.02 | NivFreak | kebinusan: I think it already sets cctype |
| 01:58.10 | NivFreak | just not CC |
| 01:59.02 | Hobby-home | Antiarc: was the incompatible version check updated with this revision? |
| 01:59.19 | kebinusan | NivFreak: doesnt seem to at least Im not seeing it set that |
| 01:59.20 | Hobby-home | seems like threat that shouldn't sync is showing up as compatible |
| 01:59.27 | kebinusan | ah nm |
| 02:00.21 | Antiarc | Hobby-home: You're right, I didn't update it. |
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| 02:01.02 | Bruners | anyone know of any good wireless headphones with mic ? |
| 02:01.41 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r67594 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: Update last backwards compat version for compliance with protocol fixes. |
| 02:01.51 | Xinhuan | wireless sucks |
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| 02:01.57 | Xinhuan | it always runs out of batt at the wrong time ;p |
| 02:02.31 | Ellipsis | it's true, always seems to die right when you're about to get to the best part |
| 02:03.10 | Cryect | well don't take so long! |
| 02:03.23 | Bruners | i think im going to need a new pair soon |
| 02:03.29 | Bruners | so wireless is a no go ? |
| 02:03.41 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67595 10GemHelper/GemHelper.lua: GemHelper: Fix a comment to say GemHelper instead of BankItems. Make the slash command toggle the GemHelper frame, instead of only showing it. |
| 02:03.43 | Xinhuan | never use a wireless item |
| 02:03.46 | Xinhuan | especially the mouse |
| 02:04.06 | Ellipsis | I use a wireless mouse |
| 02:04.07 | Bruners | mouse and keyboard i know |
| 02:04.13 | Xinhuan | slows down response speed, and its disastrious to run outof batt ;p |
| 02:04.14 | WobWork | wireless mouse is the worst |
| 02:04.25 | Bruners | but for sound it cant be that bad? |
| 02:04.31 | WobWork | I never really understood the point of a wireless keyboard |
| 02:04.38 | Ellipsis | wireless keyboards are win |
| 02:04.42 | WobWork | if you're that far away from the cpu, I guess |
| 02:04.43 | Ellipsis | you can totally IRC from across the room |
| 02:04.46 | Bruners | WobWork: at the living room its ok |
| 02:04.56 | WobWork | I can't see the screen from there =) |
| 02:05.07 | Ellipsis | that's why you use a TV for a screen :P |
| 02:05.08 | WobWork | and usually, the screen is leashed to the cpu |
| 02:05.08 | Bruners | i have a projector so its np :P |
| 02:05.13 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:05.23 | WobWork | I don't quite have that budget or room |
| 02:05.52 | Cryect | hmmm... I get massive improvements from using loadstring over my own personal stack machine but not sure do I want the security risk or not in my addon |
| 02:05.53 | Bruners | living with 3 other people so i just provided the projector |
| 02:06.04 | Silverstorm | kebinusan: re: MagicMarker, I believe NeoTron said he didn't want to automatically make things CC, because sometimes you don't want a CC-able mob to be CC'd |
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| 02:07.24 | Cryect | Xinhuan, whats your opinion should I use loadstring or compiler/stack machine in Recount 2 for expressions :-p want to let people share views etc but will have to ensure its secured enough |
| 02:07.29 | Bruners | got any tips on a good wired one then ? |
| 02:07.51 | Cryect | Guess as long as I don't let loops work inside of them and the environment is set by setfenv guess you can't really do anything too bad |
| 02:08.09 | kebinusan | Silverstorm: thnx i'll harass him later it'd be nice to hav ean option for it when you are setting up the database for the firs ttime |
| 02:09.25 | Xinhuan | err what Cryect?? |
| 02:09.56 | Cryect | Heh well I allow the views to be customized by expression & tags |
| 02:10.52 | Cryect | I avoided using loadstring in the first place due to it didn't feel like a good idea but performance is at least 2 to 3 times faster with loadstring instead I see |
| 02:11.09 | AbsoRayne | Hrm. |
| 02:11.11 | Xinhuan | how often is loadstring run? |
| 02:11.17 | Cryect | almost never |
| 02:11.18 | AbsoRayne | Everytime I /rl my Pitbull Raid frames move. O_o |
| 02:11.30 | Cryect | Only when views are set |
| 02:11.35 | Cryect | the function that is generated is run a lot |
| 02:12.24 | Hobby-home | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/84927 new errors |
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| 02:13.18 | Xelopheris | Antiarc around? |
| 02:13.28 | Antiarc | Yeh |
| 02:14.08 | Xelopheris | Just had everyone in raid update to same version of threat-2.0 and omen and got some weird shit happening on Gurtogg |
| 02:14.28 | Hobby-home | same for lurker |
| 02:14.33 | Antiarc | Can you elaborate? |
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| 02:14.42 | Xelopheris | three people named <unknown> at top of threat list |
| 02:14.43 | Hobby-home | though the 67585 omen doesn't seem to be on WAU still |
| 02:14.46 | Xelopheris | with a billion times tank threat |
| 02:15.00 | Xelopheris | version check showed everyone using same version |
| 02:15.12 | Antiarc | Which version? |
| 02:15.27 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, does omen display omen's revision, or threat-2.0's revision, or the newer one of both? |
| 02:15.33 | Antiarc | Threat's |
| 02:15.42 | Xelopheris | let my dig the file |
| 02:15.51 | QuantumDelta | Threat's the important part ;p |
| 02:16.00 | QuantumDelta | though I do wish it'd display both again :< |
| 02:16.17 | QuantumDelta | even if it's redundant by a revision :P |
| 02:16.19 | marshen | the omen version check is strange... getting allways unknown for all raidmembers except myself |
| 02:16.41 | Xelopheris | 67584 |
| 02:17.18 | Xelopheris | Nevermind, found the problem. Three dumb fucks said "wow I got fresh copy of WAU I don't understand why I got aggro" |
| 02:18.00 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 02:18.16 | Xelopheris | consistency > new, idiots >.> |
| 02:18.34 | Hobby-home | Antiarc: the error I pasted caused by the comms change and someone with an old version? |
| 02:18.38 | CIA-9 | 03wobin * r67597 10FuBar_HeyFu/FuBar_HeyFu.toc: FuBar_HeyFu: toc push, cause it still works |
| 02:18.45 | Antiarc | Hobby-home: Very potentially, yes |
| 02:18.55 | Antiarc | Also, I need a vacation ;_; |
| 02:19.01 | Antiarc | I've only worked on WoW stuff today and I'm exhausted. |
| 02:19.04 | Hobby-home | k that's what I figure as well, pausing to get everyone to to date :) |
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| 02:19.44 | Loonacy | Antiarc: We appreciate your work, though. |
| 02:19.51 | Xelopheris | Antiarc, if you come to ottawa I'll buy you a beer |
| 02:20.02 | Cryect | heh |
| 02:20.12 | QuantumDelta | Same goes for Bristol England Antiarc ;) |
| 02:20.59 | Loonacy | If you come to Utah, I won't buy you a beer because we don't really have any here. :\ |
| 02:21.02 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=37208 ?? |
| 02:21.14 | Antiarc | What about it? |
| 02:21.15 | Cryect | yeah? |
| 02:21.19 | Funkeh` | 3/29 17:01:48.593 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x00000000006BBD81,"Kareth",0x400512,0xF130003EBE000035,"Highlord Mograine",0xa48,37208,"The Decapitator",0x1 |
| 02:21.27 | Cryect | yes? |
| 02:21.31 | Antiarc | What's abnormal about that? |
| 02:21.33 | Funkeh` | oh nvm, I thought highlord casted it |
| 02:21.45 | Antiarc | Highlord went to Kara last week |
| 02:21.49 | QuantumDelta | hehehe |
| 02:22.00 | Cryect | yeah I'm sure he gets bored of naxx |
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| 02:22.47 | Yssaril | anyway to get the spell id of a spellthat will be rewareded form a quest? |
| 02:23.30 | Cryect | must be someway because you can look at the icon with a tooltip right? |
| 02:23.50 | Funkeh` | Yssaril, /combatlog before you gain the spell |
| 02:23.53 | Xinhuan | you should just use loadstring then |
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| 02:23.59 | Xinhuan | running the function a lot is fine |
| 02:24.04 | Funkeh` | Yssaril, or wowhead the name |
| 02:24.07 | Xinhuan | but loadstring sparingly |
| 02:24.13 | demilich | hmm. have there been any reported deadloop bugs in libthreat? my entire raid just hard locked on supremus |
| 02:24.30 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 02:24.31 | Yssaril | Funkeh`, but i want to know it beforehand while i have it still in my questlog |
| 02:24.31 | Funkeh` | ouch |
| 02:24.45 | Funkeh` | Yssaril, the only way to get it is combat log |
| 02:24.47 | Jaxon | demilich: two other guilds in BT tonight had that happen to them, but not us. |
| 02:25.21 | demilich | jaxon - was it during supremus? |
| 02:25.26 | Jaxon | demilich: yeah. |
| 02:25.28 | Yssaril | Funkeh`, must be another way cause you can link spells now (which includes the spellid) |
| 02:25.36 | demilich | maybe it's bigwigs |
| 02:25.46 | Funkeh` | it's not bigwigs jesus |
| 02:25.48 | Jaxon | Bunch of us use tha tas well, didn't happen |
| 02:26.06 | demilich | funkeh - just floating the possibility for a response bro, no offense intended :P |
| 02:26.16 | ulic | Yssaril: maybe way for someone else to come turn it in and watch the combat log? |
| 02:26.24 | Funkeh` | demilich, yeah well bigwigs hasn't had a major rewrite recently bud ;p |
| 02:26.26 | kergoth | Benumbed: nice job with dahud, its really coming along |
| 02:26.33 | Funkeh` | it's still the same old |
| 02:26.37 | Yssaril | ulic hehe no good :P |
| 02:26.46 | demilich | yeah |
| 02:26.46 | durcyn | Antiarc: ThreatTPS.lua:36: Invalid parameter #3 passed to UpdateTPS: expected number, got nil |
| 02:26.49 | Funkeh` | Yssaril, getting a link is somewhat different |
| 02:26.55 | kergoth | Benumbed: small thing, mind reducing the step on the x/y/etc sliders? can't get very precise with them, in fact, you cant move a bar to where they are by default the way they are right now, if you accidentally move one, you cant put it back :) |
| 02:26.57 | durcyn | Antiarc: r67594 |
| 02:26.59 | Benumbed | combo points about made me punch a wall today |
| 02:27.02 | Yssaril | Funkeh`, ? |
| 02:27.11 | Funkeh` | Yssaril, the only way to aquire the spellID of a buff you don't know is via combatlog, no other way possible |
| 02:27.15 | Yssaril | Funkeh`, link will work just fine for what i need :) |
| 02:27.20 | ulic | I don't think you can link non-player spells/buffs. |
| 02:27.21 | Antiarc | durcyn: Fix committed already |
| 02:27.30 | Benumbed | kergoth, if you click the number, you can type a number |
| 02:27.32 | Antiarc | ulic: Pretty sure you can |
| 02:27.37 | kergoth | oh, cool, i didnt realize |
| 02:27.41 | Benumbed | or click the label for it, and scroll mousebutton to go 1 by 1 |
| 02:27.48 | Benumbed | its part of the ace3 thingie |
| 02:27.53 | Funkeh` | you can link any spell |
| 02:27.54 | QuantumDelta | btw Antiarc, I don't think I've ever said it directly but my comments/questions are never whine orientated - just trying to help ya out as much as possible |
| 02:27.59 | durcyn | Antiarc: eh? don't see a newer rev from CIA |
| 02:28.17 | xyu | anyone know why in zomgbuffs i randomly can't right click to buff people in the manager? it just says "Left click to target" |
| 02:28.18 | durcyn | kicks CIA-25 |
| 02:28.18 | CIA-25 | ow |
| 02:28.24 | xyu | and sometimes it wil say "Right click to cast xx" |
| 02:28.30 | xyu | but that feature will randomnly turn off >_< |
| 02:28.30 | Gngsk | antiarc, how do I turn on the title bar you added to single target mode? not seeing an option for it |
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| 02:29.18 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28863 |
| 02:29.20 | Funkeh` | memories |
| 02:29.23 | kergoth | Benumbed: thats a neat feature, imo there should be a border around the text of some sort.. so its obvious its a text input area.. i should pester nargiddley about it |
| 02:29.24 | Antiarc | Gngsk: It should be in the single target options |
| 02:29.47 | Benumbed | you used to be able to just hover mouse over the scroll area |
| 02:30.05 | Benumbed | but then you would be scrolling the whole option page and accidently hover over one and bam, things all messed up |
| 02:30.30 | Gngsk | Antiarc, all I see is 'always show self' and 'show tank as 100%' |
| 02:31.11 | Hobby-home | Antiarc: thanks for the grey unknowns :) |
| 02:31.19 | Antiarc | :) |
| 02:31.19 | Hobby-home | much easier to glance at |
| 02:34.51 | CIA-25 | 03daviesh * r67599 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 02:34.51 | CIA-25 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 02:34.51 | CIA-25 | - Fixed old Babble reference |
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| 02:37.00 | CIA-25 | 03durcyn 07dev * r67600 10Omniscience/ (Omniscience.lua Options.lua): fix db ref keys, remove defunct options tables |
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| 02:40.02 | kergoth | durcyn: omniscience like a dotimer/classtimer/etc type mod, or more with a specific purpose, cc/stuns? |
| 02:40.37 | durcyn | kergoth: it's meant to track cc specifically |
| 02:41.27 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:41.42 | kergoth | will it yell at me if my freezing trap pops, with it not as my focus? been looking for something to do that |
| 02:42.10 | durcyn | i haven't set up any announces yet, but early break warnings would be doable |
| 02:42.26 | kergoth | er, i dont even see myself in omen right now |
| 02:42.36 | durcyn | do moar threat! |
| 02:42.54 | demilich | we disabled omen and ran it again and it was fine. a sample set of 2 attempts! i will draw bold conclusions! |
| 02:43.32 | demilich | he dropped void crystals :( |
| 02:43.38 | RaydenUni | kergoth if you don't show up then obviously you can generate more threat without consequence |
| 02:43.41 | Loonacy | Antiarc: Are you supposed to be able to change the "Your bar" color? I tried changing it to blue and when I click Okay it just pops back to red. |
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| 02:43.55 | Antiarc | You should be able to. I'll check it out. |
| 02:43.56 | RaydenUni | how are mods doing now that the patch has been out a while? |
| 02:44.06 | RaydenUni | my mods were throwing a fit the first night |
| 02:44.23 | durcyn | RaydenUni: uh, only thing that's affected is combat event parsing |
| 02:44.33 | CIA-25 | 03whyv * r67601 10Postal/Locales/zhTW.lua: Postal: -update zhTW |
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| 02:44.48 | RaydenUni | i was running: pitbull, bartender3 and i was getting a warning that mods were throwing too many errors |
| 02:45.07 | RaydenUni | pitbull wouldn't update mobs health for a few seconds until after the damage was done :D |
| 02:45.24 | demilich | hmm did they change it so the nuggets before naj are on his no-respawn list? |
| 02:45.46 | Jaxon | demilich: they will respawn up until Naj'entus dies. |
| 02:46.10 | demilich | jaxon - seemed like they used to respawn even after he died |
| 02:46.19 | demilich | i'm probably wrong htough |
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| 02:48.35 | CIA-25 | 03ckknight * r67602 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Compiler.lua test.lua): LibDogTag-3.0 - fix an issue where [ThingyThatReturnsFalse and 'hi'] ['test'] would return nothing instead of just test. |
| 02:49.16 | Dark_Elf | is there a mod that warns when a horde is getting ready to attack from behind? |
| 02:50.03 | Benumbed | its called pan your camera |
| 02:50.18 | CIA-25 | 03wang * r67603 10GemHelper/GemHelper_Localization.zhCN.lua: GemHelper: zhCN update |
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| 02:53.36 | CIA-25 | 03next96 * r67604 10Postal/Locales/koKR.lua: |
| 02:53.36 | CIA-25 | Postal: |
| 02:53.36 | CIA-25 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 02:53.48 | alcaras | hmm |
| 02:53.56 | alcaras | 2 disconnects at 40% in a row on Azgalor |
| 02:54.00 | alcaras | for almost our entire raid |
| 02:54.05 | alcaras | anyone know if there's some mod conflict? |
| 02:54.21 | SumpinFishy | we Dc'd at 23 and the tank kept hitting and 7 people finished him off |
| 02:54.30 | SumpinFishy | on azgalor |
| 02:55.00 | alcaras | entire raid dc'd? |
| 02:55.12 | alcaras | what mod might it be? |
| 02:55.13 | SumpinFishy | all except 7 people |
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| 02:55.44 | SumpinFishy | Some had ORa, some had pitbull some had grid....some stayed connected....we couldn't find a common theme |
| 02:56.19 | Xelopheris | Probably their AS |
| 02:56.19 | Bruners | EU servers? |
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| 02:58.44 | alcaras | apparently a number of soulstones |
| 02:58.50 | alcaras | will cause hard lock |
| 02:58.53 | Yssaril | bullshit GetSpellLink() is currently the only way to get at the spell link /cry wtb GetQuestLogSpellLink |
| 02:58.54 | Gngsk | Antiarc, there it is I guess I didn't have the version you added it to my fault |
| 02:59.08 | DaF_ | hi, does anyone know a simple rebuff reminder addon? |
| 02:59.14 | on1y | anti kazglor fight seems to be bugged |
| 02:59.39 | Nicarras | Grid works for rebuffs |
| 02:59.40 | on1y | it only shows me in omen. i dont have a log |
| 02:59.50 | Nicarras | missing buff addin |
| 03:00.06 | on1y | but it was happening wiht everyoen using 67499.1 |
| 03:00.22 | DaF_ | i just wanted something to remind me to put windfury again and what nots, not raid frames :) |
| 03:00.56 | Loonacy | only: Threat-2.0 has been updated a bit since then. |
| 03:00.59 | dylanm | There's Zeksie's thing right |
| 03:03.01 | CIA-25 | 03wang * r67605 10GemHelper/GemHelper_Localization.zhTW.lua: GemHelper: zhTW update |
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| 03:03.12 | hypetech | on1y: who is kazglor? |
| 03:03.30 | on1y | lulz |
| 03:03.34 | on1y | kaz'rogal |
| 03:03.34 | xyu | Can you install addons by downloading and /reloadui these days? |
| 03:03.36 | hypetech | lol |
| 03:03.39 | xyu | er i mean "update" |
| 03:03.56 | Bruners | lolgalzor |
| 03:04.00 | on1y | my guild calls me hte omen nazi |
| 03:04.24 | Xinhuan | xyu, only if the addon doesn't contain new files |
| 03:04.38 | xyu | oki |
| 03:05.04 | Nicarras | duh :O |
| 03:05.31 | xyu | duh your head |
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| 03:06.25 | CIA-25 | 03funkydude * r67606 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (16 files): BigWigs_Naxxramas: partial 2.4 update |
| 03:07.59 | Xelopheris | I love OT'ing Shahraz. |
| 03:08.12 | Xelopheris | I'm alt-tabbed chatting on IRC while awaiting ezmode loots :) |
| 03:08.21 | NivFreak | xyu: so no lockups at all after disabling that mod last night? |
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| 03:09.07 | CIA-25 | 03scorpio0920 * r67607 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 03:09.07 | CIA-25 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0 |
| 03:09.07 | CIA-25 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 03:09.16 | Loonacy | Antiarc: A couple reloads and some debug code later and MyBar.Color looks like it's working now, not sure if it was a wtf issue or what. |
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| 03:10.14 | xyu | NivFreak: i had ONE today on bloodboil but i was trying to log in during the encounter. |
| 03:10.20 | xyu | and i got sent to my hearth :P |
| 03:10.44 | CIA-25 | 03funkydude * r67608 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Patchwerk: bugfix |
| 03:11.12 | Silverstorm | Xelopheris: you know you can attack now? |
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| 03:11.27 | Xelopheris | I know |
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| 03:12.33 | Xelopheris | fucking triple protector every time |
| 03:12.49 | Silverstorm | wtb more lock drops on our runs...triple vanq ftl |
| 03:13.15 | Xelopheris | We have had like two vanq chests total |
| 03:13.20 | alcaras | is ClearFont messed up? |
| 03:13.21 | Xelopheris | I had to bribe people to get mine |
| 03:13.28 | alcaras | can't get calibri v1 on most ui mods |
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| 03:18.26 | Xelopheris | Pally app, first pull, tank boped |
| 03:18.46 | Xelopheris | Need some way of tracking that :( |
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| 03:20.35 | Silverstorm | hmm, if the app did that, the easy way to track it is /gkcik |
| 03:20.44 | Silverstorm | s/gkcik/gkick |
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| 03:23.18 | Xelopheris | speculative that it was the app |
| 03:23.21 | Xelopheris | nobody ever admits to it |
| 03:23.39 | Xelopheris | besides, we pulled a bop'd tank on gorefiend earlier too |
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| 03:24.29 | alcaras | is Recount's Death report still not working this patch? Only seeing pet deaths, not player |
| 03:25.05 | JJSheets | is away: Feeding time! Call in the pigs! |
| 03:26.00 | Arrowmaster | did blizzard fix the combatlog, if not then you wont see them in recount |
| 03:26.28 | Dark_Elf | 2.4 changed the combatlog |
| 03:27.14 | dylanm | Dark_Elf: Arrowmaster is referring to UNIT_DEATH not firing when it should, which was a 2.4 innovation. |
| 03:28.03 | Ellipsis | the UNIT_DEATH fix isn't till 2.4.2 |
| 03:29.30 | Loonacy | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.2 |
| 03:29.55 | elusif | there is a fix that will stop the combat log endlessly scrolling |
| 03:30.30 | Arrowmaster | thats already in |
| 03:30.42 | Arrowmaster | although their fix sucks |
| 03:31.18 | Dark_Elf | guess i dont understand blizzard they take 2 months to release a patch that was tested on the realms and then a week later release another patch and it looks like another soon too, geez are they testing or playing? |
| 03:31.42 | Arrowmaster | these are bug fix patches |
| 03:31.46 | Arrowmaster | not content patches |
| 03:32.08 | Ellipsis | these are bug fixes for the stuff they didn't bother testing or fixing before releasing a buggy unfinished patch |
| 03:32.11 | elusif | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8486-1.html |
| 03:32.33 | elusif | CombatLogScrollFix addon |
| 03:32.36 | Arrowmaster | elusif: they fixed that in 2.4.1 already |
| 03:32.40 | elusif | oh lol |
| 03:32.49 | elusif | so i can use my combat log again? :) |
| 03:32.55 | elusif | i just hid the window |
| 03:33.20 | elusif | is there a way for it not to show everyone in the zone? when i last used it it still did it even when i selected the self cast |
| 03:33.23 | Silverstorm | durcyn: ETA for Omniscience? I was gonna write one like that, but I saw your commit |
| 03:33.35 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 03:33.48 | Arrowmaster | if your self one is showing more than you then go fix it in the configs |
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| 03:33.50 | durcyn | Silverstorm: you're welcome to poke at it. i need to fix the duration table right now, then finish the DR calcs |
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| 03:34.10 | elusif | cool |
| 03:34.12 | durcyn | and wowwiki can fuck itself, tbh |
| 03:34.36 | elusif | do you guys use ignore more or friendshare? |
| 03:34.39 | Silverstorm | ok, once I get SVN (is that Kaelten?), I'll take a look and see what you've got |
| 03:34.55 | durcyn | Silverstorm: it's basically a kludged version of Ant atm |
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| 03:35.26 | Silverstorm | ah, I was gonna do it from scratch |
| 03:35.48 | durcyn | knock yourself out. diversity breeds excellence. |
| 03:36.38 | Dark_Elf | http://code.google.com/p/autobar/downloads/list - i see autobar got updated, shame its not on wowace yet hehe |
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| 03:37.14 | Nandini | grr this stupid Omen displaying the Threat revision has everyone in my raid trying to find Omen r67596 to download, i keep telling them that's the threat version, but they don't understand |
| 03:37.30 | Nandini | that version number needs a tooltip! |
| 03:37.40 | lagger | anyone know what "feral charge effect" is in spanish and french |
| 03:38.13 | Nandini | find a french/spanish wowhead/thottbot and look it up there by spell id |
| 03:39.38 | Loonacy | Yesterday I was sitting at the bank in Orgrimmar and I was getting entries in my combat log from someone in another guild that I'd never seen before who was fighting in Terokkar. |
| 03:39.50 | Arrowmaster | its bugged |
| 03:39.52 | Arrowmaster | it does that |
| 03:40.27 | Arrowmaster | although ive never seen cross continent messages like that |
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| 03:41.04 | on1y | WTB guild who can do archimonde |
| 03:41.17 | vithos | WTS shaman |
| 03:41.40 | dylanm | If you can't do Archimonde you need to yell at your guildmates more. |
| 03:41.55 | on1y | they don tknow how ot move as a group |
| 03:41.57 | vithos | what are people dying to? |
| 03:41.59 | Xelopheris | just keep removing people who crater |
| 03:42.00 | on1y | i do yell at them |
| 03:42.04 | Arrowmaster | we couldnt kill archimonde lastnight but we had a limited amount of pulls |
| 03:42.05 | on1y | we dont crater |
| 03:42.16 | Xelopheris | doomfire? |
| 03:42.16 | Mudkipz | did they nerf archi yet |
| 03:42.22 | on1y | yes doomfire |
| 03:42.23 | Mudkipz | I know that mofo is the most random ass fight in all of wow |
| 03:42.26 | on1y | theyfail |
| 03:42.32 | Silverstorm | I love that fight :-p |
| 03:42.35 | vithos | on1y: do you have raid symbols on decursers? |
| 03:42.37 | Arrowmaster | no they buffed him by making the hills gay |
| 03:42.41 | on1y | yea |
| 03:42.44 | on1y | THEY FAIL |
| 03:42.53 | on1y | they dont group |
| 03:43.20 | Mudkipz | this problem clearly needs a pie chart |
| 03:43.33 | Silverstorm | skip the chart, just the pie |
| 03:43.36 | Mudkipz | goes to get pie |
| 03:43.46 | on1y | we used to use the hillshit |
| 03:43.52 | on1y | i lul'd |
| 03:43.58 | on1y | after teh patch |
| 03:45.14 | on1y | lets get 24 peopel to play my guild |
| 03:45.18 | on1y | whos in? |
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| 03:46.31 | Bruners | is there a planned archi nerf? |
| 03:47.09 | mjc | I hate that tattle takes so long |
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| 03:47.19 | mjc | I wish blizz would just give us the fucking data in game |
| 03:47.27 | mjc | shakes his fist. |
| 03:47.39 | Cryect | archi has been nerfed already several times so I cant imagine they are planning to |
| 03:47.59 | Bruners | he is easy enough as it is |
| 03:48.30 | Viper_0000 | can you bind a hotkey to toggle an action bar on/off (hide) in bartender3? |
| 03:48.39 | Viper_0000 | im lookin but i must be brain crampin' lol |
| 03:48.43 | Bruners | well the first nernaj post came quickly after the attunement removal |
| 03:49.32 | AbsoRayne | Yay for a Misdirection bug! |
| 03:49.43 | Viper_0000 | coldsnap bugs in arenas are most fun |
| 03:50.01 | Benumbed | what MD bug would that be |
| 03:50.15 | Bruners | directing aggro to mages i hope |
| 03:50.38 | on1y | well they need to fixdoomfires |
| 03:50.48 | on1y | i mean make them go stright |
| 03:50.51 | Bruners | fix doomfires? whats wrong with them |
| 03:51.03 | on1y | well nothign wrong with them |
| 03:51.10 | on1y | they are easy to avoid fro non narnars |
| 03:51.15 | hypetech | he means "fix" as in "nerf" |
| 03:51.22 | Benumbed | more like something wrong with the ppl and they not running straight away and circling |
| 03:51.23 | AbsoRayne | I used Misdirection on my MT, got one shot off, my hunter raid buddy used his by accident, wiped both ours, and our distracting shots killed both of us through agro. |
| 03:51.48 | Bruners | if they start going straight, why not just remove them |
| 03:52.41 | Benumbed | im sure they will |
| 03:53.06 | on1y | hey i have kileld him but my guild is a bunch of narnars |
| 03:53.09 | Bruners | doomfires are close to the only challenge about the fight |
| 03:53.13 | on1y | and they dont run |
| 03:53.17 | on1y | so it circles |
| 03:53.32 | on1y | then i get "well EJ forums says fires are bugged" |
| 03:53.47 | on1y | bah shoot me now |
| 03:54.17 | Bruners | if they are bugged i dont understand why we have oneshotted him each time the last 10 resets |
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| 03:55.45 | on1y | they say bugged since 2.4 |
| 03:56.02 | Bruners | or maby it was fixed in 2.4? |
| 03:56.26 | on1y | who cares liek i said my guild is a bunch of nar nars |
| 03:56.27 | Bruners | what is the "bug" about since 2.4 ? |
| 03:56.32 | on1y | fuck if i know |
| 03:56.48 | Bruners | and will/was it fixed in this patch ? |
| 03:56.59 | hypetech | raidwide lockup on Archimonde as well |
| 03:57.01 | on1y | wish i knew |
| 03:57.20 | on1y | oh it is fun when u get stick behind th ewall |
| 03:57.44 | Viper_0000 | anyway to toggle show/hide an actionbar in bartender3 with a hotkey |
| 03:58.05 | Viper_0000 | or am i stuck with "holding down ctrl/alt/shift" garb |
| 03:58.38 | mjc | modality addon |
| 03:59.04 | Viper_0000 | ty |
| 03:59.39 | cdaveb_ | hypetech, you guys all froze up? |
| 03:59.42 | hypetech | so between kaz'rogal and archimonde lockups, we lost all of our DKP records for tonight's raid >.< |
| 03:59.42 | hypetech | yes |
| 03:59.48 | cdaveb_ | that happened to us twice on VR today |
| 03:59.49 | hypetech | on kaz, then again on archi |
| 03:59.52 | cdaveb_ | we think it's Omen related |
| 03:59.58 | cdaveb_ | some people didn't DC |
| 04:00.02 | cdaveb_ | they were mostly not running Omen |
| 04:00.10 | hypetech | we have everybody running omen |
| 04:00.13 | cdaveb_ | although we didn't do a scientific study |
| 04:00.16 | Bruners | we havent used DKP at all in TBC |
| 04:00.29 | cdaveb_ | but we did VR twice today, first time like 3/4 of the raid DCed at 30% |
| 04:00.31 | Bruners | lollootcouncil ftw |
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| 04:00.33 | cdaveb_ | second time at like 6% |
| 04:00.39 | cdaveb_ | mostly the same people who got DCed both times |
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| 04:00.54 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r67610 10OnScreenHealth/ (3 files): |
| 04:00.54 | CIA-9 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 04:00.54 | CIA-9 | - fixed AceConsole error with /osh colors |
| 04:00.54 | CIA-9 | - added support for LibSharedMedia-3.0 (with fallback support for 2.0 if 3.0 isn't found) |
| 04:00.55 | CIA-9 | - changed OptDeps to include SharedMedia (SharedMedia-2.0 no longer exists) |
| 04:00.56 | cdaveb_ | and I've heard from someone else it may be Omen related although I don't know the details |
| 04:00.56 | alcaras | did you have anyone stand up with a soulstone? |
| 04:00.57 | CIA-9 | - changed options code some, for no particular reason that I can remember |
| 04:00.59 | alcaras | or a battle rez? |
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| 04:01.08 | hypetech | don't think so |
| 04:01.11 | cdaveb_ | I think we did a battlerez on the first try |
| 04:01.16 | alcaras | on our azgalor d/c we had people stand up and then everyone got d/c'd |
| 04:01.18 | cdaveb_ | I don't think any were up for the second |
| 04:01.23 | cdaveb_ | but maybe it was a shaman |
| 04:01.24 | alcaras | soulstone? |
| 04:01.24 | hypetech | no battlerezes, maybe have had a shammy pop or something though |
| 04:01.26 | alcaras | yeah |
| 04:01.32 | alcaras | apparently rezzing in combat bugs |
| 04:01.36 | alcaras | from what i can tell |
| 04:01.45 | alcaras | we had a battle rez on rage, and the ss on azgalor |
| 04:01.56 | cdaveb_ | I wouldn't think anyone would be rezzing on Archimonde tho? |
| 04:02.02 | alcaras | hopefully blizz will fix stuff by tomorrow |
| 04:02.11 | alcaras | no idea, it's just a theory :-/ |
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| 04:02.40 | cdaveb_ | well that's assuming the problem isn't in a mod |
| 04:02.42 | Bruners | cdaveb_: no problem doing that |
| 04:02.57 | hypetech | ya as long as you don't rez in a doomfire or something, it's no big deal |
| 04:03.21 | cdaveb_ | well more like I would hope nobody would be dying on Archimonde in the first place :) |
| 04:03.21 | cdaveb_ | hmm |
| 04:03.25 | cdaveb_ | oh there it is |
| 04:03.26 | hypetech | hah |
| 04:03.32 | hypetech | true true |
| 04:03.42 | cdaveb_ | our guild has a rule, no rezzes on Archimonde, if you died once you're probably gonna die again |
| 04:04.21 | Bruners | depends who it is and at what point in the fight |
| 04:04.23 | hypetech | we it depends on the situation. If you get grip then immediately get an air burst, it's not your fault :p |
| 04:04.32 | cdaveb_ | but anyhow another guild doing VR the same time as us had the same disconnect issue |
| 04:04.42 | cdaveb_ | well that's assuming your potion timer wasn't up |
| 04:04.50 | cdaveb_ | if it was up you shoulda had a purification potion for emergencies :) |
| 04:05.02 | hypetech | that's assuming they have purification potions >.> |
| 04:05.06 | cdaveb_ | but I think it's more of an if you died you'll need to be rebuffed and stuff and it's just more trouble than it's worth |
| 04:05.27 | Bruners | if its a decurser i would say ress his ass |
| 04:05.28 | cdaveb_ | my guild accused me of trying to sell them purification potions :) |
| 04:05.40 | hypetech | for sure if a decurser went down we'd bring them back up |
| 04:05.43 | cdaveb_ | I'm sure in a special circumstance we'd do it, but normally we don't |
| 04:06.07 | cdaveb_ | then again we've only killed Archimonde a few times cheese style so we're hardly experts |
| 04:06.17 | Bruners | cheese style means? |
| 04:06.22 | cdaveb_ | hill method |
| 04:06.34 | Bruners | no idea what that is |
| 04:06.53 | cdaveb_ | they nerfed it in 2.4 but they said it wasn't an exploit which is why we did it that way initially |
| 04:07.03 | cdaveb_ | you can have people stand on the hill, the doomfire usually doesn't go up there |
| 04:07.06 | cdaveb_ | sometimes it can tho |
| 04:07.09 | cdaveb_ | which is why it isn't an exploit |
| 04:07.20 | cdaveb_ | and it means the melee dps can't do much and everyone gets airbursted more |
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| 04:07.43 | Bruners | so you are learning it 3-4 times just to relearn another way? |
| 04:07.46 | cdaveb_ | but there's a nice spot where the tank can wedge themselves into the tree and not move if they get feared, and since we didn't have a warrior at the time it seemed our best approach |
| 04:08.09 | cdaveb_ | plus pre-2.4 we had a hard time having 25 people in the raid, our first kill was with 24, most of our learning attempts only had 23 |
| 04:08.43 | cdaveb_ | it'll be easier to relearn now tho anyhow, now that everyone is familiar with the fight |
| 04:08.48 | cdaveb_ | assuming we can find time to do it :) |
| 04:09.51 | cdaveb_ | I wouldn't recommend it for everyone, but given it wasn't ruled an exploit we figured we'd learn it that way, found out a week before the patch they changed it but we'll learn it the new way |
| 04:11.00 | Bruners | everyone uses the pvptrinket in your group right? |
| 04:11.41 | Bruners | if not, they should get it |
| 04:12.53 | Yssaril | rofl anyone see this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5687459799&sid=1? |
| 04:13.31 | chiper | heh |
| 04:13.58 | Zynderps | ???wow.web.forums.error500.message??? |
| 04:13.59 | Zynderps | :( |
| 04:14.16 | Zynderps | oh wait |
| 04:14.19 | Zynderps | just remove the ? |
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| 04:15.03 | Bruners | bad thing to have ?! after a url really |
| 04:15.26 | Yssaril | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5687459799&sid=1 there u go :P |
| 04:15.27 | kergoth | damnit, my omen still shows absolutely nothing, not even me |
| 04:15.43 | Bruners | good thing i clever enough to notice such :P |
| 04:15.51 | Antiarc | Make sure you don't have a copy of Threat-1.0 running |
| 04:15.56 | Antiarc | Some people say that borks it |
| 04:16.11 | Yssaril | Antiarc, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5687459799&sid=1 |
| 04:16.23 | Antiarc | Oh noes! |
| 04:16.39 | Yssaril | if that was true it would really suck all your hard work down the drain |
| 04:17.33 | Bruners | is there an easy way to remove obsolete libs? |
| 04:17.39 | Zhinjio | Good evening. |
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| 04:18.10 | Antiarc | Yssaril: Well yeah, but I could just revert to -1.0 :P |
| 04:18.28 | Yssaril | Bruners, personnaly i use wau and delete all libs and have it refetch all externals (and then i pray that all addons ahve their externals set right) |
| 04:19.09 | Yssaril | is pastey.net down atm? |
| 04:19.21 | JJSheets | is back (gone 00:54:16) |
| 04:20.07 | Bruners | Yssaril: good idea |
| 04:20.16 | Yssaril | nm it works agin |
| 04:22.23 | Yssaril | somone wanna look at http://yssaril.pastey.net/84930 and tell me if i could improve on that code somewhere? |
| 04:23.58 | dylanm | Not really sure why you're doing the loop like that. |
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| 04:26.11 | Geeks | How do I tell who is working on a Ace mod? (still futzing wiht MBB) |
| 04:26.29 | Yssaril | cause there is no reliable way of getting the exact number of times i have to loop since there isn't a function that i found that gave me the number of indexes in the questlog |
| 04:26.46 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r67611 10Recount2/ (7 files): |
| 04:26.46 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 04:26.46 | CIA-9 | -Several major CPU optimizations resulting in about 4 fold decrease in CPU time |
| 04:26.46 | CIA-9 | -Expressions no longer use a stack machine and instead compile w/ loadstring with a limited namespace |
| 04:26.46 | CIA-9 | -Tags now make use of functional decomposition to eliminate some ifs, simplified processing code and removed caching of expression results (faster to compute expressions now than determine if it will be the same) |
| 04:26.50 | CIA-9 | -Timer scheduler had a few optimizations as well resulting in nice performance boost there |
| 04:27.05 | dylanm | Geeks: commit logs, toc, etc |
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| 04:28.50 | argage | So, is there some kinda voodoo I can put on Omen to get it to not spaz out on me? |
| 04:28.56 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r67612 10Omen/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:28.56 | CIA-9 | Omen: |
| 04:28.56 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update. |
| 04:29.14 | argage | Oo |
| 04:30.02 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r67613 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (GeneralPvP.cn.lua GeneralPvP.tw.lua sets.cn.lua sets.tw.lua): AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Update zhCN & zhTW locales |
| 04:30.11 | CIA-9 | 03jayhawk * r67614 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (4 files): |
| 04:30.11 | CIA-9 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 04:30.11 | CIA-9 | - updated TOC, added German translation, updated to new combat log |
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| 04:31.34 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r67615 10EavesDrop/EavesDrop.lua: |
| 04:31.34 | CIA-9 | EavesDrop: |
| 04:31.34 | CIA-9 | - Attempt to trap the color error appearing in raids |
| 04:31.34 | CIA-9 | - Clean up of combat event processing |
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| 04:33.54 | vithos | how come there's no MyMedia.lua in SharedMedia anymore? the instructions are still there though |
| 04:34.22 | dylanm | Yssaril: I guess you could make a local reference to some of the table indexing you're doing like OwnRepo[i] to avoid looking it up every time. |
| 04:34.45 | durcyn | vithos: because otherwise your file would be reset to the default by an updater. |
| 04:34.50 | dylanm | If you're really, really digging for improvements. Not much else to do :p |
| 04:35.45 | vithos | durcyn: that's why i have a VithSharedMedia addon, from the old MyMedia. but it only registers with one of the SMLibs apparently as i don't get my stuff on every addon |
| 04:36.53 | dylanm | Yssaril: I see you're trying to recycle some of the rewards tables but it seems like you're leaving a lot behind. |
| 04:36.54 | durcyn | or you could use MyMedia.lua |
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| 04:37.03 | durcyn | ;) |
| 04:37.05 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r67616 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.cn.lua: AtlasLoot_BCInstances: Update zhCN locale |
| 04:37.12 | vithos | durcyn: which doesn't exist. |
| 04:37.22 | vithos | that's what i'm asking about |
| 04:37.33 | durcyn | it doesn't exist because you need to create it |
| 04:37.41 | durcyn | you need to create it so that if you use an updater, it doesn't get replaced with an empty file |
| 04:37.44 | durcyn | end |
| 04:38.57 | vithos | ...oh. i just noticed the instructions file is the old MyMedia.lua. |
| 04:39.09 | vithos | but either way i use delete-before-extracting |
| 04:39.15 | vithos | so i still have to make a seperate addon |
| 04:39.48 | durcyn | yes, that is true. it's also why WAU is stupid. |
| 04:40.16 | dylanm | Yssaril: Like, if quest 1 had three rewards and then upon a rescan there were a different quest with two rewards there the third reward of the first quest would be attached to the second quest with no real fuss. |
| 04:40.25 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r67617 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/ (rep.cn.lua rep.tw.lua): AtlasLoot_RepFactions: Update zhCN & zhTW locales |
| 04:41.00 | Arrowmaster | just make a new addon and reqdep sharedmedia and do nothing SharedMedia:Register() in it |
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| 04:41.47 | Arrowmaster | s/nothing/nothing but/ |
| 04:42.02 | vithos | will do, thanks |
| 04:42.40 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r67618 10Recount2/ (GUID_Tracking.lua GUI_List.lua GUI_Table.lua): |
| 04:42.40 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 04:42.40 | CIA-9 | -Adjust determining number of rows to not take into account space for extra row spacing below the bottom row for list & table frames |
| 04:42.40 | CIA-9 | -Removed a check for nil GUIDs in UpdateGUIDInfo (shouldn't be able to have one that is nil) |
| 04:42.48 | on1y | 34% |
| 04:42.50 | on1y | archi |
| 04:42.52 | on1y | boo |
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| 04:45.28 | kergoth | Cryect: how's recount2 coming? |
| 04:45.35 | on1y | yes i want to know! |
| 04:45.38 | on1y | :P |
| 04:47.26 | Cryect | Well in the performance metric at least, today it was performing about twice as slow as Recount with a lot of filtering going on while Recount 2 had no filtering. Now after optimizations I've got it spending half the CPU time of Recount while still not doing any filtering of any sort |
| 04:47.46 | CIA-9 | 03jayhawk * r67619 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFuLocals-deDE.lua: |
| 04:47.46 | CIA-9 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 04:47.46 | CIA-9 | - trouble adding |
| 04:48.02 | kergoth | nice |
| 04:48.47 | Cryect | have to say though watching performance numbers DogTag-3.0 needs a little improvements was definately one of the highest addons I had running |
| 04:48.57 | Odlaw | anyone know what the spell id is for corrupting strike on kalecgos? |
| 04:49.29 | CIA-9 | 03jayhawk * r67620 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFuLocals-deDE.lua: |
| 04:49.29 | CIA-9 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 04:49.29 | CIA-9 | - added |
| 04:49.58 | durcyn | 45029? |
| 04:50.04 | Silverstorm | Odlaw: what's the effect? no spell on the Kalecgos wowhead entry by that name |
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| 04:50.31 | durcyn | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45029 |
| 04:50.51 | Odlaw | err, not kalecgos himself.. is the demon |
| 04:50.52 | Odlaw | uhm |
| 04:51.26 | Odlaw | ya, that's it.. the wowhead id the same id in game? |
| 04:51.27 | Cryect | heh, also got to cut about 500 lines of code |
| 04:51.36 | Cryect | yes |
| 04:51.47 | Silverstorm | yes, they are the same |
| 04:51.48 | AbsoRayne | Oh goody, Leo doesnt reset anymore! |
| 04:51.48 | Odlaw | cool thanks |
| 04:53.15 | Silverstorm | Cryect, what are you using to profile? |
| 04:53.24 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn 07dev * r67621 10Omniscience/ (Omniscience.lua Options.lua): branches/Omniscience/dev: yay, everything works now. |
| 04:53.26 | Antiar1 | 45029 |
| 04:53.32 | Antiar1 | Courtesy of MobSpells |
| 04:53.36 | durcyn | yes, wowhead uses game spellIDs |
| 04:54.18 | Cryect | I use a combo of built in profiler w/ use of like perfFu and protractor and Expo also when I want to disable CPU Profiling |
| 04:57.35 | Cryect | Expo is normally what i prefer but it often misses actual hooks since it hooks once some functions are set for other stuff which let me miss some optimization needed in my timer scheduler |
| 04:57.54 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn 07dev * r67622 10Omniscience/Omniscience.lua: well, that conditional logic didn't work, duh. |
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| 04:58.17 | Cryect | haha |
| 04:59.03 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna get some sleep. G'night y'all. |
| 04:59.17 | Mytos | later |
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| 05:01.10 | tejing | anyone know where I might find enchantids for the new gems in 2.4? |
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| 05:05.42 | vithos | hmm.. my pixel font needs to be size 7, and pitbull only goes down to 8 :( |
| 05:05.46 | Antiarc | http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/120/mindfuck.jpg |
| 05:05.57 | Kenco | oh hi |
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| 05:07.13 | Cryect | oh I should also say the problem with built in blizzard profiling since its all internal timing to the addon you can miss info on processes that are local to your addon but called by another function that is in the namespace hence the reason to use expo there. Also built in profiling really slows things down since every single function is hooked instead of just the ones you actually care about (which can have drastic effects on function |
| 05:07.31 | mjc | Antiarc: dude. |
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| 05:08.22 | mjc | Antiarc: is that a golfer? |
| 05:08.38 | Antiarc | I don't know but the pic is awesome |
| 05:08.47 | mjc | yes |
| 05:09.24 | vithos | is there something "hidden" i'm supposed to notice? |
| 05:09.34 | mjc | the splash. |
| 05:10.37 | vithos | omfg |
| 05:10.38 | vithos | i just saw it |
| 05:10.42 | JJSheets | lol |
| 05:10.47 | vithos | jesus fuck |
| 05:10.53 | mjc | hahah |
| 05:10.57 | JJSheets | did you shit bricks? |
| 05:12.00 | Ayth | I don't see it |
| 05:12.22 | Cryect | it kinda looks like a face but I can't imagine thats worth talking about |
| 05:12.30 | vithos | the entire splash |
| 05:12.34 | vithos | keep looking |
| 05:12.52 | mjc | ayth: from magtheridon? :O |
| 05:13.09 | Tem | oh wow |
| 05:13.12 | Tem | I just saw it |
| 05:13.14 | Tem | bricks were shatt |
| 05:13.18 | JJSheets | lol |
| 05:13.22 | mjc | lol |
| 05:13.39 | Ayth | Nope sorry |
| 05:14.04 | Arrowmaster | rofl thats awesome |
| 05:14.22 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r67623 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua IB_Main.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - DogTag code is now properly colorized in the GUI. |
| 05:14.33 | vithos | that's got to be manipulated |
| 05:14.42 | Ayth | is it suppose to be a female body part? |
| 05:14.51 | JJSheets | lmao ayth |
| 05:14.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:14.58 | mjc | LOL no |
| 05:15.00 | Ayth | cause I see a vagina |
| 05:15.07 | JJSheets | hahahahah |
| 05:15.17 | mjc | look at the whole thing |
| 05:15.23 | mjc | not just the regions of the splash |
| 05:15.29 | Ayth | I can never 'see' things in things |
| 05:15.35 | JJSheets | that's one nasty lookin vagina... |
| 05:15.41 | Ayth | I didn't say it was a nice one -_- |
| 05:15.45 | JJSheets | :) |
| 05:15.49 | mjc | hahah |
| 05:15.53 | Arrowmaster | look at the top of the splash |
| 05:16.02 | JJSheets | then work your way down. |
| 05:16.07 | Ayth | OOOOH i see it now |
| 05:16.13 | JJSheets | lol |
| 05:16.24 | vithos | lol |
| 05:16.28 | JJSheets | listens to a couple bricks fall out of Ayth's trousers. |
| 05:16.38 | Ayth | naw those fell out when i saw the vagina |
| 05:16.44 | JJSheets | hah |
| 05:16.49 | Primer | Anyone know of an addon that displays a drop down in the new AceConfig? |
| 05:16.52 | JJSheets | you owe me a keyboard. |
| 05:16.57 | mjc | hah |
| 05:16.58 | Primer | trying to find an example |
| 05:17.35 | vithos | Primer: IHML |
| 05:17.41 | Arrowmaster | dropdown? inside the config dialog? |
| 05:17.48 | Primer | that's an awesome addon, btw |
| 05:18.35 | Primer | Arrowmaster: yes, that |
| 05:18.49 | Arrowmaster | like vithos said |
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| 05:19.34 | Primer | hrmm, except IHML does its own menu |
| 05:19.56 | tejing | anyone know where I could find out enchantids for the new gems in 2.4? |
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| 05:20.37 | mjc | tejing: probably wowhead |
| 05:20.57 | tejing | wowhead doesn't tell you that as far as I can tell |
| 05:21.06 | mjc | look at the url perhaps |
| 05:21.12 | Arrowmaster | Primer: omen has some |
| 05:21.48 | tejing | mjc: the url just has the gem's itemid... I need the enchantid |
| 05:21.57 | mjc | ah, sorry |
| 05:22.00 | mjc | misunderstood |
| 05:22.05 | tejing | np |
| 05:22.07 | Xinhuan | wowhead does tell you |
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| 05:22.14 | Xinhuan | follow the "enchant effect" link |
| 05:22.16 | Primer | Arrowmaster: indeed it does, thanks |
| 05:22.23 | Xinhuan | and read the permanent enchant id part |
| 05:22.36 | kergoth | guild name "Build Horde Tough" /eyeroll |
| 05:22.36 | tejing | xinhuan: I don't see any such link... |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r67624 10Decursive/localization.cn.lua: |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-9 | Decursive: |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-9 | - update zhCN locales |
| 05:22.46 | Xinhuan | the "effect: " green text is a link |
| 05:22.47 | Xinhuan | click on it |
| 05:22.52 | tejing | xinhuan: this is for gems, not enchants |
| 05:22.54 | mjc | kergoth: theres one of those on suramar and my boss' kids belong to it |
| 05:22.59 | Xinhuan | oh gems |
| 05:23.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:23.05 | Xinhuan | go make a small script |
| 05:23.18 | kergoth | mjc: my latest character is an alliance hunter on suramar.. decided to try alliance again |
| 05:23.18 | tejing | xinhuan: bleh... I was afraid that would be the answer |
| 05:23.33 | Xinhuan | actually, go download GemHelper, at the bottom of GemHelper_Data.lua, i have a small commented out script |
| 05:23.39 | Xinhuan | that you can use |
| 05:23.46 | Xinhuan | to get the gemID --> enchantID |
| 05:23.46 | tejing | xinhuan: cool, thanks |
| 05:23.57 | Xinhuan | oh wait its not GemHelper |
| 05:24.00 | Xinhuan | its WoWEquip |
| 05:24.05 | Xinhuan | in WoWEquip_Data |
| 05:24.07 | Xinhuan | .lua |
| 05:24.34 | kergoth | anyone hack anything to add the combat log timestamp to non-log entry messages in chatframe2, so things are more consistent? |
| 05:25.43 | tejing | xinhuan: aha, found it |
| 05:26.00 | Xinhuan | its a small commented out script at the bottom of wowequip_data.lua, htat i use to extract the enchantIDs |
| 05:26.08 | Xinhuan | or you can just read the data off the file anyway |
| 05:26.16 | Xinhuan | the IDs in the tables are the enchant IDs |
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| 05:26.45 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: damn you now youve got me thinking up ideas on how to do it |
| 05:27.12 | tejing | xinhuan: they don't have the new 2.4 gems in there tho atm |
| 05:27.20 | Xinhuan | its there |
| 05:27.28 | Xinhuan | because i updated wowequip 2 days ago |
| 05:27.43 | Xinhuan | with all the new gems/enchants |
| 05:27.58 | tejing | :-/ I updated a few hours ago and don't have it... that's odd |
| 05:28.20 | Xinhuan | look in the _data file, the new gems like Forceful Seaspray are there |
| 05:28.41 | Xinhuan | {id = 3285,t = L["Forceful Seaspray Emerald"],ic = "INV_Jewelcrafting_SeasprayEmerald_02"}, |
| 05:28.46 | Xinhuan | can't see them? |
| 05:29.07 | Xinhuan | technically, i can rewrite the thing not to store the item icons anymore |
| 05:29.20 | Xinhuan | since GetItemIcon() or something works |
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| 05:29.59 | tejing | just grepped my copy for "Forceful". no match |
| 05:30.11 | Xinhuan | did you download it off wowace |
| 05:30.14 | Xinhuan | and into the right folder |
| 05:30.20 | tejing | yes, just hours ago :-/ |
| 05:30.20 | Xinhuan | wowtest ~= wow |
| 05:31.11 | tejing | lol |
| 05:31.15 | tejing | found my problem |
| 05:31.15 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r67625 10aX_RaidStatus/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:31.15 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): |
| 05:31.15 | CIA-9 | - Talent Detection methods changed. It now scans automatically again, without lag or errors. |
| 05:31.15 | CIA-9 | - Added LibTalentQuery-1.0 support. |
| 05:31.15 | CIA-9 | - Added Talent Support for: esES, frFR, koKR, zhCN, zhTW |
| 05:31.35 | Xinhuan | tejing |
| 05:31.36 | Xinhuan | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua?r=67063 |
| 05:31.37 | tejing | I use my own script for updating my mods off wowace.com... and I didn't have wowequip in there |
| 05:31.51 | tejing | so that means I hadn't updated it |
| 05:32.18 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r67626 10aX_RaidStatusConfig/RaidStatusConfig.lua: |
| 05:32.18 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatusConfig: |
| 05:32.18 | CIA-9 | - Force Scan nolonger does anything. Rwar! |
| 05:32.40 | quiescens | rwar! |
| 05:32.43 | Xinhuan | line 964, see it? |
| 05:33.04 | Apoco | RWAR! |
| 05:33.18 | Xinhuan | there are 8 new gems in 2.4 |
| 05:33.20 | Xinhuan | all 8 are in wowequip |
| 05:33.52 | tejing | yea, I see it. just turned out I hadn't updated when I thought I had |
| 05:34.11 | tejing | facepalms. |
| 05:34.29 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 05:35.06 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: i think i might be able to do it in a completely universal way but it might be ugly |
| 05:36.06 | CIA-9 | 03wang * r67627 10Routes/Locales/Locale-zhCN.lua: Routes: zhCN local added |
| 05:36.25 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r67628 10Recount2/GUI_List.lua: |
| 05:36.25 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 05:36.25 | CIA-9 | -Resets scrollbar value to 0 on list frames when changing views |
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| 05:41.21 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r67629 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Finally figured out how to securely toggle the autocast of pet action buttons. |
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| 05:43.10 | vithos | JJSheets: woohoo! autocast toggle support, no more opening the spellbook |
| 05:43.41 | JJSheets | :) You use IB2? |
| 05:43.47 | vithos | yes |
| 05:44.28 | JJSheets | That one had me scratching my head for a while. annoying problem with a remarkably easy solution. |
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| 05:46.18 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn * r67630 10Antagonist/Data/Buffs.lua: Antagonist: stop putting CC effects in buffs data. I mean it. |
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| 05:46.49 | vithos | that reminds me, can you raise the maxcolumn limit? 20 isn't enough to reach all the way across the bottom of my screen |
| 05:46.53 | Aiiane | lol durcyn |
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| 05:48.25 | Nimble_Rabit | Anybody else ever have addons block them from redoing poisons before they end? |
| 05:49.02 | Xinhuan | sounds like an itemrack problem? |
| 05:49.15 | vithos | JJSheets: also what do you think about a global lock/buttonlock, and an option like Bartender3_Autobindings |
| 05:50.23 | JJSheets | vithos, by global lock/buttonlock, do you mean a single check box that will lock/unlock all bars at once? |
| 05:50.29 | vithos | JJSheets: yeah |
| 05:50.31 | WobWork | Nimble_Rabit: Isn't that in the standard ui? |
| 05:50.31 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn * r67631 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist: add an additional check to SPELL_AURA_APPLIED to only act on suffix param 1 equal to 'BUFFS' |
| 05:50.51 | Nimble_Rabit | WobWork, no normally you can reapply a poison and override the current one |
| 05:50.54 | JJSheets | vithos, and what are Bartender3's autobindings? |
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| 05:51.03 | Nimble_Rabit | but sometimes it says WIM is blocking me from diong that, sometimes it says Spunky |
| 05:51.07 | Nimble_Rabit | it changes around saying waht's blocking me |
| 05:51.15 | JJSheets | global button lock can probably go in. shouldn't take too much either. |
| 05:51.26 | vithos | JJSheets: it shows the keybind for abilities that are directly bound, like with SpellBinder |
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| 05:51.57 | vithos | JJSheets: i don't know, maybe there could be a better solution than that.. like a configuration mode where you could easily change keybinds by right clicking buttons or something |
| 05:52.01 | Nimble_Rabit | Xinhuan, don't use itemrack but I do use closetgnome |
| 05:52.28 | tejing | xinhuan: I do notice one bug tho... doesn't look like you've added the new gems to the color lists. just made a set using some steady seaspray emeralds and it shows me as having no yellow gems |
| 05:52.28 | Xinhuan | you will have to do some debuggin, and disable addons until you find the culprit |
| 05:52.45 | Xinhuan | hmmmm, you are correct tejing |
| 05:52.49 | Xinhuan | i'll fix that in a bit |
| 05:53.03 | vithos | JJSheets: you might could combine the popup macro editor with the other button options, for "config mode" |
| 05:53.25 | vithos | JJSheets: i'm sure you have a better idea of the best way to do things, but just throwing some ideas out there |
| 05:54.08 | JJSheets | vithos, I'll look into it, but that will be lowish priority. I can add a DogTag to display the kaybind to a specific spell in a button. but that would just be weird IMO. :) |
| 05:55.35 | vithos | the thing is i'm in the process of gradually changing all my keybinds from numbers+modifiers to having spells on alpha-keys instead, and the rockconfig interface is a bit troublesome, so i end up just using SpellBinder instead |
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| 05:56.27 | vithos | but i still want to have the spells on screen to see cooldowns, and i keep forgetting what my keybinds are and can't just look at the keybind text because it's not there |
| 05:56.48 | vithos | if there was a better way to change keybinds than the current way, that would solve pretty much all those problems for me |
| 05:57.30 | JJSheets | I can't simply set it to keybind on a right click, but I might be able to set up a keybind mode, that lets you keybind easier. |
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| 05:57.59 | JJSheets | For now, though, I'll make a tag to display the key bound to the current spell. |
| 05:58.02 | vithos | yeah, that's exactly what i was thinking of |
| 05:58.06 | vithos | okay :) |
| 05:58.09 | Mytos | is anyone else experiencing a heavy load on their gpu since 2.4 |
| 05:58.35 | vithos | would that cause castsequence macros to display keybinds for all the different spells in the sequence though? |
| 05:58.42 | JJSheets | yup. |
| 05:58.51 | vithos | hmm.. that would be a bit weird |
| 05:58.53 | JJSheets | thus, weird IMO. :) |
| 05:59.22 | JJSheets | but I'm going to add it anyway, for lolkitteh's sake. |
| 06:01.23 | JJSheets | though if it's too in depth, I'll just move on to bigger and better things. |
| 06:01.36 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn 07dev * r67632 10Omniscience/ (. Omniscience.lua Omniscience.toc embeds.xml locale/enUS.lua): add embeds, externals, remove a stray debug print, and strip servernames from bar text. |
| 06:02.29 | JJSheets | Hmmm yeah... that tag is actually going to be near impossible. so it's off the drawing board. |
| 06:02.43 | vithos | yeah, if you're going to do a config mode / keybind mode eventually it wouldn't be necessary anyway |
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| 06:04.17 | vithos | the only use case - people using direct spell keybindings - would disappear |
| 06:04.30 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r67633 10Violation/ (Violation.toc locales/zhCN.lua locales/zhTW.lua): |
| 06:04.30 | CIA-9 | Violation: |
| 06:04.30 | CIA-9 | - zhCN/zhTW update.Enable zhTW locales.(Wang,thank for your help.) |
| 06:05.16 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn * r67634 10/ (branches/Omniscience/dev/ trunk/Omniscience/): Omniscience: move to trunk. CC tracking works without throwing too many errors, non-personal DR is still a pipe dream due to blizzard combat log fuckups. |
| 06:05.21 | JJSheets | yep. but there's no real help for it. I'd have to search through all keybinds to find out which one is bound to that specific spell. |
| 06:05.45 | vithos | hmm.. that reminds me of another small annoyance |
| 06:06.03 | vithos | with the built in macros, i can't easily move macros around |
| 06:06.11 | vithos | like i can with blizzard macros |
| 06:07.08 | vithos | i'm a hunter, so i switch between different shot rotation macros a lot |
| 06:07.17 | vithos | depending on whether i can multishot (and break CC) for example |
| 06:07.29 | CIA-9 | 03adirelle * r67635 10SimpleSelfRebuff/buffs/priest.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: using spellIds for priest buffs, thanks to Stan. |
| 06:07.30 | JJSheets | Yeah. That's on the list, but difficult to fix. I'm going to look into it, but it might not make it into the release candidate. |
| 06:07.39 | vithos | alright :) |
| 06:08.11 | vithos | great work though, i love IB2 and it just keeps getting better |
| 06:08.39 | NeoTron | zomg |
| 06:08.44 | NeoTron | inside 11, outside 12. |
| 06:08.48 | NeoTron | getting closer |
| 06:08.57 | JJSheets | Thanks. I think people will really like what I do with DogTags and button highlights. |
| 06:09.56 | vithos | ooo, going to be able to control the highlight color with tags? that'll be sweet |
| 06:10.46 | JJSheets | yep... they'll also be able to flash the button scale and/or alpha when certain conditions change. |
| 06:11.03 | vithos | awesome |
| 06:11.48 | vithos | i'll definitely make use of that |
| 06:12.15 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn * r67636 10Omniscience/locale/ (7 files): Omniscience: clean up locale cruft. |
| 06:12.22 | JJSheets | Which reminds me, is there a dogtag for when a unit is CC'd? :) |
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| 06:12.50 | durcyn | you could do a HasAura |
| 06:12.56 | CIA-9 | 03adirelle * r67637 10SimpleSelfRebuff/buffs/hunter.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: using spellIds for hunter buffs. |
| 06:12.57 | durcyn | but there's not a generic one |
| 06:13.09 | JJSheets | that's what I thought. I might have to make one. |
| 06:13.51 | JJSheets | the goal being to scale a button way down or fade it out when the button's target is cc'd. To help reduce cc breaking. :p |
| 06:14.34 | Grum | you cant scale buttons in combat afaik :) |
| 06:14.41 | basslingo | -.- rewriting wowbench is a pain, especialy when its coded for PC |
| 06:15.12 | JJSheets | You can scale my buttons. They're proxies. the buttons themselves are invisible (but still clickable), but the proxy is fully configurable. |
| 06:15.47 | Grum | yeah ofc, you can scale a 'button'-frame, just not any that you could actually use to cast a spell incombat :D |
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| 06:16.00 | JJSheets | exactly. :) |
| 06:16.55 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r67639 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): |
| 06:16.55 | CIA-9 | Threat-2.0: |
| 06:16.55 | CIA-9 | - Fix deserialization retardification. |
| 06:16.56 | CIA-9 | - Fix a potential problem with clears for classes with temp pets. |
| 06:16.58 | CIA-9 | 03adirelle * r67638 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: tracking doesn't use BabbleSpell anymore, drycoded ! |
| 06:17.11 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: i think i may have found a solution lol! |
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| 06:17.46 | JJSheets | Okay... time for sleep. Thanks for the suggestions, vithos. |
| 06:17.59 | vithos | night |
| 06:18.08 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: lol, you're still working on it? |
| 06:18.12 | kergoth | oops :P |
| 06:18.43 | kergoth | i did something disgusting and hackish the other day - http://kergoth.pastey.net/84918 |
| 06:19.22 | Arrowmaster | did it work? |
| 06:20.06 | kergoth | it works, its just a damn ugly way to do it |
| 06:20.57 | Arrowmaster | oh mines kinda cleaner |
| 06:21.20 | Arrowmaster | i need to comment some shit out of prat first though to test this so i can get timestamps |
| 06:22.19 | Arrowmaster | if this works its a 1 liner |
| 06:22.38 | Arrowmaster | thats how uber it is |
| 06:23.17 | kergoth | nice |
| 06:25.41 | Arrowmaster | ChatFrame1 will always exist before any addons load right? |
| 06:25.54 | Arrowmaster | i need to mod prats timestamping to do this |
| 06:25.55 | MentalPower | yes |
| 06:26.01 | AbsoRayne | Who in here has a Tank as a main? |
| 06:26.07 | AbsoRayne | Warrior Tank** |
| 06:26.10 | MentalPower | its defined in FrameXML, and that loads before any addons |
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| 06:33.03 | Arrowmaster | ok fuck prat let me code up my own little timestamping code |
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| 06:34.08 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r67640 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: |
| 06:34.08 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 06:34.08 | CIA-9 | - Add an individual font setting to CombatText module |
| 06:34.43 | basslingo | AbsoRayne: do |
| 06:34.47 | basslingo | i do* |
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| 06:35.52 | AbsoRayne | basslingo: How geared? |
| 06:36.10 | basslingo | 520 def 15k armor 14k hp unbuffed |
| 06:36.23 | AbsoRayne | T4? |
| 06:36.26 | basslingo | yea |
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| 06:36.37 | basslingo | still in like 2 blues -.- |
| 06:36.45 | AbsoRayne | ok |
| 06:36.51 | AbsoRayne | Was looking for someone in t5+ <_< |
| 06:36.55 | basslingo | ah |
| 06:37.08 | basslingo | do an armory search for blacktank |
| 06:37.10 | basslingo | on madoran |
| 06:37.14 | basslingo | friend of mine |
| 06:37.17 | basslingo | :) |
| 06:37.20 | basslingo | SSC geared tank |
| 06:38.10 | AbsoRayne | Well it was a gear Q too :P Im debating something |
| 06:38.27 | basslingo | ask |
| 06:38.35 | Ellipsis | Kurax: <3 |
| 06:38.43 | basslingo | im just held back by guild..... thats all |
| 06:38.54 | Kurax | Ellipsis: =p |
| 06:38.58 | basslingo | when you have 5+ kara grps and only 1 gruuls grp..... it goes slow |
| 06:39.12 | Mytos | debating what, ive got a warrior in some t5 |
| 06:39.35 | Mytos | if youve got 5 kara groups and only one 25man theres a problem with leadership imo |
| 06:39.49 | basslingo | no |
| 06:39.56 | basslingo | the issue is timezones -.- |
| 06:40.26 | Jaxon | AbsoRayne: what was your question? I log onto our offtank some nights when he isn't available. |
| 06:40.51 | NeoTron | Kalecgos down! |
| 06:40.53 | basslingo | we are geared to do it and can,....... just IRL crap gets in the way |
| 06:40.53 | NeoTron | booyah |
| 06:40.55 | basslingo | grats |
| 06:41.05 | Silverstorm | grats |
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| 06:41.30 | AbsoRayne | Jaxon: T5 Leggings or Badge Leggings? |
| 06:41.46 | AbsoRayne | I have the badge, debating the tier |
| 06:42.13 | Mytos | only take t5 over the badge if your getting the 4piece from it |
| 06:42.18 | Mytos | if no 4piece take the badges |
| 06:42.36 | Silverstorm | NeoTron: in your targeting mod, are you planning to include CC/breaks? |
| 06:42.50 | Jaxon | Mytos is right. If the set bonus aren't anything to die for, go with the item that gives you the bestest survivability. |
| 06:43.07 | AbsoRayne | I have 2 piece, but im looking to get back a little dodge and some AP. |
| 06:43.11 | AbsoRayne | My Str is pretty low. :/ |
| 06:43.27 | Mytos | yeah, the 2piece doesnt even make t5 worth it, go badge all the way |
| 06:43.33 | basslingo | +20 str enchant wep |
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| 06:43.37 | Mytos | same from the gloves |
| 06:43.42 | Jaxon | What do you need strength for? |
| 06:43.50 | basslingo | block |
| 06:43.52 | AbsoRayne | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil'jaeden&n=Absolutrayne Armory |
| 06:44.10 | AbsoRayne | w/o Kings and fort, just shy of 16K Unbuffed :D |
| 06:44.12 | Jaxon | Strength increases block value, not block rating, right? |
| 06:44.14 | basslingo | also helps with AP |
| 06:44.35 | AbsoRayne | Value, yes |
| 06:44.57 | AbsoRayne | and AP is white damage, which equals threat plus more rage...and I rage dump like a mofo sometimes |
| 06:45.14 | Mytos | and value increases your threat gen, aswell as str increases how much dmg you block |
| 06:45.14 | basslingo | dont we all :P |
| 06:45.31 | basslingo | yea, get that STR up |
| 06:45.33 | Jaxon | You get most of your rage from getting hit.. |
| 06:45.39 | basslingo | 224 is lower than mine |
| 06:46.10 | Mytos | yeah but most of the time when your tanking your pretty close to always full raged if your mt, and if you ot you can intervene every few bits to get some extra rage |
| 06:46.13 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, using 67596 not seeing anyone on threat meter but myself on omen on maiden |
| 06:46.29 | Xinhuan | 6 people using this version |
| 06:46.33 | Mytos | i mean if your really worried about having rage you can /sit and get a crit for some rage |
| 06:46.36 | AbsoRayne | Jaxon: When you get to t5, youre nto always getting hit |
| 06:46.37 | basslingo | AbsoRayne: I would also respec |
| 06:46.37 | AbsoRayne | Trust me |
| 06:46.43 | AbsoRayne | Why? |
| 06:46.55 | basslingo | 46 into prot is alittle too much |
| 06:47.00 | AbsoRayne | No...? |
| 06:47.06 | basslingo | most bosses are resistant to stuns |
| 06:47.14 | basslingo | well |
| 06:47.26 | basslingo | nvm -.- wrong persons tree |
| 06:47.37 | basslingo | bookmarks ftl |
| 06:47.39 | NivFreak | AbsoRayne: badge legs |
| 06:47.51 | NivFreak | expertise == win |
| 06:48.06 | AbsoRayne | We dont have the new Vendor on our server yet. :/ |
| 06:48.18 | NivFreak | yep |
| 06:48.19 | NivFreak | I'm waiting too |
| 06:48.21 | Jaxon | AbsoRayne: when you are tanking t4 bosses with t5 gear, yes, your avoidance is going to make rage generation a problem |
| 06:48.25 | NivFreak | been passing on my t5 legs waiting |
| 06:48.34 | basslingo | rAbsoRayne: dont use mongoose on tank wep |
| 06:48.42 | basslingo | use +20 STR |
| 06:48.43 | Mytos | is anyone running vista ultimate having problems wiht huge gpu loads |
| 06:48.49 | AbsoRayne | Jaxon: No...I have rage issues on most T5 bosses taht are 90% Melee. |
| 06:49.00 | NivFreak | t4 content isnt so bad |
| 06:49.05 | NivFreak | just can't HS much |
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| 06:49.11 | AbsoRayne | basslingo: Youre dumb. 20 Str will account to nothing for tanking. Mongoose 120 AGI = Dodge, Crit and a slight amount of armor. |
| 06:49.28 | NivFreak | with ~550 BV it's plenty of threat with just a SS->Rev->Dev->Dev cycle with no heroic strike |
| 06:49.30 | AbsoRayne | 40 AP and 1 shield block value =/= dodge crit and armor. |
| 06:49.51 | NivFreak | AbsoRayne: do you spec anger managment? |
| 06:49.58 | AbsoRayne | No. |
| 06:50.14 | AbsoRayne | PvP =/= Pve |
| 06:50.16 | NivFreak | I spec back and forth |
| 06:50.18 | NivFreak | uh... |
| 06:50.20 | AbsoRayne | Which is why these resil tanks crack me up. |
| 06:50.21 | NivFreak | more rage == more threat |
| 06:50.24 | NivFreak | pve |
| 06:50.40 | NivFreak | I spec down to imp TC most of the time anyway |
| 06:50.42 | NivFreak | so it's 1 more point |
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| 06:50.59 | NivFreak | and I notice the rage |
| 06:51.06 | AbsoRayne | AM Maybe for OTing, not MTing. |
| 06:51.07 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r67641 10/branches/OnScreenHealth/ (. Ace3/ Ace3/OnScreenHealth.lua Ace3/OnScreenHealth2.toc): OnScreenHealth: importing working Ace2 alpha before starting Ace3 conversion |
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| 06:51.12 | NivFreak | I MT |
| 06:51.14 | Egotrip | Want to make $$$ just by clicking? Sign up on http://bux.to/?r=eg0trip, and begin recieving checks! |
| 06:51.15 | drasil | resil is nice for druids. |
| 06:51.16 | NivFreak | all of t5 |
| 06:51.20 | NivFreak | plus the hyjal we've done :) |
| 06:52.34 | AbsoRayne | I never found it useful. |
| 06:52.36 | AbsoRayne | shrugs |
| 06:52.41 | NivFreak | to each his own |
| 06:52.48 | NivFreak | if you have rage issues, you'll notice it |
| 06:53.00 | NivFreak | it's also great when you have down time on fights like hydross |
| 06:53.05 | NivFreak | you can stand there and gain rage |
| 06:53.07 | NivFreak | instead of lose it |
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| 06:53.30 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r67642 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull: Update zhTW locale |
| 06:53.32 | NivFreak | nothing like opening with 100 rage after a threat dump |
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| 06:56.24 | NeoTron | Silverstorm: that's sort of out of scope - but I plan to add that in Magictargets |
| 06:56.41 | Silverstorm | right, that's "the targeting mod" I mentioned |
| 06:59.01 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r67643 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 06:59.01 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 06:59.01 | CIA-9 | - Fixed for pet list nil error for DPS returner and tooltip. |
| 06:59.01 | CIA-9 | - Removed double creation of victims when handling deaths. |
| 07:00.16 | AbsoRayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_040108_233825.jpg Im getting really sick of the x3 drops in SSC now. :/ |
| 07:00.21 | AbsoRayne | Thats the third time its happened to us |
| 07:00.28 | Silverstorm | I got most of my MM database rebuilt and re-configured, hadn't used it since pre-2.4, hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to use it on TG, Mother, and Council trash |
| 07:01.04 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67644 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Instead of hardcoding the color of every gem, loop over the data tables instead to generate it. This updates the 8 new 2.4 gems as well. |
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| 07:05.04 | NeoTron | lol |
| 07:05.07 | NeoTron | brutallus hits hard |
| 07:05.09 | NeoTron | damn |
| 07:05.20 | ncd|Aileen | hehe, yes :) |
| 07:06.17 | evl | Anyway to log the raw combatlog? |
| 07:06.22 | evl | or is that simply /combatlog now? |
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| 07:06.32 | Lukian | ^ |
| 07:07.26 | Aens|Superiority | oh man. I dunno how I feel about sunwell so far. |
| 07:07.43 | Aens|Superiority | so far, I've been specced everything but the spec I've been for the last year |
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| 07:08.02 | Aens|Superiority | resto for kalec. Now they want me oomkin for brutallus >.> |
| 07:08.08 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67645 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Remove CRITDMG from being shown on Relentless Earthstorm Diamond. |
| 07:08.20 | Aens|Superiority | good thing I got 14 pieces of t6 before 2.4! -_- |
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| 07:08.44 | xt | Aens|Superiority: why they want moonkin ? :( |
| 07:08.44 | Lukian | lol :/ |
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| 07:08.55 | ncd|Aileen | + crit support for paladins! |
| 07:08.59 | ncd|Aileen | even more hps on Brutallus 8] |
| 07:08.59 | Aens|Superiority | dont want too many healers, and imp FF/insect swarm |
| 07:09.04 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 07:09.07 | Aens|Superiority | and crit support for casters actually |
| 07:09.08 | NeoTron | man the tanks dies fast |
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| 07:11.55 | vhaarr | Anyone know if a SPELL_SUMMON combat log event is triggered when a hunter summons his pet? |
| 07:12.02 | vhaarr | Or is it just for warlocks? |
| 07:12.11 | nevcairiel | for hunters too |
| 07:12.14 | vhaarr | sweet |
| 07:13.17 | xt | but you wont get enough dps with moonkin! |
| 07:13.27 | xt | so even if your tank doesnt die, you will get enrage timer :) |
| 07:13.37 | Mytos | what about moonkins not dpsing? |
| 07:13.53 | Ayth | Moonkin is fine with gear for brut |
| 07:14.17 | nevcairiel | we had to rotate our moonkin out because his gear kinda sucks |
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| 07:14.35 | Ayth | well sure, anyone without good gear is a problem lol |
| 07:14.42 | Mytos | well his gear probably sucks because your first reaction to your tanks/healers sucking is to rotate him out |
| 07:14.55 | Mytos | which is the same problem 90% of moonkins have |
| 07:14.59 | nevcairiel | nah in BT he usually tags along |
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| 07:15.46 | xt | you guys have wws of a guild that's using moonkin ? |
| 07:15.46 | Ayth | I wish my guild ran a boomkin -_- |
| 07:15.46 | xt | i'd like to see the stats |
| 07:15.46 | Ayth | They can push 2k |
| 07:15.46 | xt | tried finding one but doesnt seem like any of the top guilds are using |
| 07:15.46 | Mytos | ill have to dig them up, but i run moonkin in my guild |
| 07:15.55 | xt | on brutallus |
| 07:16.01 | xt | dont want random encounter |
| 07:16.09 | Gngsk | there's a few brutallus parses with mookin |
| 07:16.09 | durcyn | moobkin are a net loss, tbh |
| 07:16.19 | xt | that's my opinion too |
| 07:16.21 | nevcairiel | our moonkin ran 1400-1500 on brutallus |
| 07:16.23 | nevcairiel | due to gear |
| 07:16.27 | kergoth | anyone see a behavior where your gun shot sound just stops, adn randomly seems to comem back? |
| 07:16.28 | kergoth | i dont get it |
| 07:16.29 | Ayth | there's no reason they'd be worse on brut... 6 minutes is doable for a boomkin with an spriest |
| 07:16.30 | kergoth | its strange |
| 07:16.48 | durcyn | kergoth: hardware sound is broken, if you've got that on |
| 07:16.59 | Mytos | i push 1300-1700 depending on the encounter, and im wearing kara gear and some offsets from ssc/tk |
| 07:17.17 | MentalPower|ZzZz | kergoth: thats normal if it occurs when a lot of sounds are playing |
| 07:17.20 | MentalPower|ZzZz | ie a raid |
| 07:17.24 | kergoth | ahh |
| 07:17.27 | kergoth | i do have hardware sound on |
| 07:17.29 | kergoth | tries turning it off |
| 07:17.39 | nevcairiel | (09:16:14) (nevcairiel) our moonkin ran 1400-1500 on brutallus (while keeping IS and FF up, that is) |
| 07:17.40 | MentalPower|ZzZz | theres only so many channels to play sounds with |
| 07:18.02 | kergoth | only in a 5 man here |
| 07:18.21 | Mytos | why would your moonkin even have imped FF if your on brutallus |
| 07:18.39 | Ayth | trying to min max i'm sure |
| 07:18.39 | xt | Just checked the 15 top wws, not a single boomkin |
| 07:18.48 | xt | crowd wisdom > boomkin |
| 07:18.58 | Mytos | all it gives is 3% to hit, and if your dps isnt hitcapped already they need hit |
| 07:19.12 | Ayth | They can gear for less hit if imp ff is up |
| 07:19.19 | Egotrip | Want to make $$$ just by clicking? Sign up on http://bux.to/?r=eg0trip, and begin recieving checks! |
| 07:19.26 | Ayth | I'm a draenei, so mages gear less hit if they're with my aura. |
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| 07:19.44 | nevcairiel | and our feral tank does more aggro with the hit, due to feral itemization he lacks alot of hit :P |
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| 07:20.37 | Mytos | brb gonna try and reload to xp and see if my video problem is isolated to vista |
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| 07:23.11 | durcyn | someone remind me why i even read the wowace forums |
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| 07:24.35 | nevcairiel | for the daily lulz? |
| 07:24.54 | durcyn | nah, if i wanted to laugh i'd get my hammer and chisel then drop trou |
| 07:25.07 | ZealotOnAStick | you have an obsession with lookign for the signal to be able to quantify the signal to noise ratio? |
| 07:25.13 | Arrowmaster | fucking hell |
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| 07:27.24 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r67647 10HandyNotes_Stables/addon.lua: Bugfix. And change icon. |
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| 07:35.16 | Olison | could anyone that knows their way around oRA2 tell me if that post is correct: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=5816.msg64514#msg64514 (last post) |
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| 07:38.27 | Arrowmaster | bah failure |
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| 07:38.50 | on1y | wow recount afterMH raid is pushin 39 megs |
| 07:39.19 | Arrowmaster | it seems after i overwrite COMBATLOG:AddMessage() all the calls in the combatlog are still using the original one |
| 07:39.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd really like to know why Recount takes like 8 megs with no data. |
| 07:39.39 | Olison | Who wouldn't |
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| 07:42.25 | Jaxon | Olison: oRA2 uses the MT format that was first used in CTRA, yes. I believe oRA3 does away with that. |
| 07:42.41 | Olison | Mhm, ok thanks |
| 07:42.44 | Aiiane | ZealotOnAStick: so would Elsia, it seems |
| 07:43.53 | Nandini | Zealot: you may have old data in your SVs that never got deleted during the many small upgrades over the past week |
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| 07:44.28 | Nandini | there is some in your account folder and some in your character folder you can delete, that permanently reduced recount's memory usage for me by 4 megs |
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| 07:45.32 | Aiiane | Nandini |
| 07:45.44 | Aiiane | I'm pretty sure ZealotOnAStick is referring to memory usage, while the game is running. |
| 07:45.55 | Nandini | yes, that's what i was referring to also |
| 07:46.00 | Aiiane | k |
| 07:46.30 | Nandini | there are some old SVs that got stuck in my percharacter SVs file, they got loaded into memory every time the game loaded, but were never used by recount |
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| 07:48.01 | Nandini | WTF\Account\ACCOUNTNAME\Realm\Character\Recount.lua was the main offender, it had old fight data in it that the new recount never knew to delete |
| 07:48.15 | Aiiane | yeah, i just checked, seems the same for me |
| 07:48.26 | Aiiane | data for SSC stuff in it when I haven't been there any time in the past week |
| 07:51.13 | AbsoRayne | gd it were getting owned in heroic MgT |
| 07:51.41 | Nandini | i was pleased at how well omen seemed to do on VR tonight, we saw threat reductions on knockback as expected |
| 07:52.14 | Nandini | it helped that we took 10 minutes before we started tho and made everyone get the current version |
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| 07:55.26 | Elkano | there is no easy way to match a localized class name against the generic ones, is there? |
| 07:56.01 | nevcairiel | no |
| 07:56.06 | Ellipsis | babble -.- |
| 07:56.06 | Nandini | no, there's no reverse |
| 07:56.11 | Elkano | (because of gender based class names in some languages BabbleClass won't work anymore) |
| 07:56.41 | Nandini | i finally figured out what all the 'declension' stuff is for in patch 2.4, it's so russian players can add the declensions for their own names |
| 07:56.57 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r67648 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 07:56.57 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 07:56.57 | CIA-9 | - Lazy Sync will now sync initial data levels when handshaking version numbers. This should resolve imbalances when players hadn't resetted at the same time. |
| 07:56.57 | CIA-9 | - Only group members with a recount sync version number will now receive syncs. Please do update for proper operation. Check version in game for incompatibility warnings. |
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| 07:58.12 | Nandini | for example, you can't just say "xyz's" pet or casts fireblast "at xyz" in russian |
| 07:58.19 | Orionshock | is there an easy way to convert the special letters in german and french to an escaped string? |
| 07:59.12 | Elkano | simply use UTF-8 ;) |
| 07:59.27 | Elkano | no need to escape then |
| 07:59.27 | Orionshock | ... |
| 07:59.40 | Nandini | russian players will get to enter up to 4 or 5 variations on their own name it seems for various declensions |
| 08:00.04 | Orionshock | Elkano: it's not a perfect world unfortunately |
| 08:00.18 | Ellipsis | what is this for, Orionshock? |
| 08:00.46 | Nandini | what do you get when you do byte() on the character? |
| 08:01.05 | Orionshock | to translate quest titles in other languages to something more portable where you can't guarantee UTF-8 encoding |
| 08:01.10 | Superfly1 | does anybody know any trick to boost the fps in 25 raids, my pc isnt that bad to get ~10FPS in ssc/gruul, and have no idea howto debug whats the problem, only few addons loaded, but when i am engaged in combat the fps drops around 10 fps |
| 08:01.10 | CIA-9 | 03stupid * r67649 10RS_ClassColors/ (6 files in 3 dirs): RS_ClassColors: Version 1.3 - Ace3, WoW 2.4 |
| 08:01.18 | Ellipsis | why can't you guarantee UTF-8? |
| 08:01.31 | Ellipsis | Superfly1: switch your combat log off of "everyone" |
| 08:01.40 | Nandini | Superfly1: turn down spell effects, turn off damage meters, filter your combat log |
| 08:02.16 | Superfly1 | already turned off everyting in the video option that couldi ncrease the performance, is that combatlog so evil? |
| 08:02.21 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 08:02.24 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: because i've found that using escaped letters guarantee that it translates between computers and clients properly |
| 08:02.29 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.36 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: ok, then do that |
| 08:02.43 | Elkano | Orionshock, you could have a look at utf-8 lib's UTF-8 detection code and applie the same code replacing the detected chars by ther byte value |
| 08:02.51 | CIA-9 | 03diablohu * r67650 10Proximo/locals/localization-zhCN.lua: |
| 08:02.51 | CIA-9 | Proximo: |
| 08:02.51 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update |
| 08:03.07 | Superfly1 | combatlog is only for the ingame log, or even $wowdir/logs/wowcombatlog too? |
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| 08:03.39 | Nandini | the filter only applies to whats shown in the window |
| 08:03.49 | Nandini | if you have /combatlog turned on, everything still gets written to disk |
| 08:04.44 | Nandini | are you using any sort of damage meters addon? |
| 08:06.00 | NeoTron | so my addon worked for marking targets |
| 08:06.21 | NeoTron | it got off after the first rotation but still a great help of getting ppl in the first rotation |
| 08:06.26 | CIA-9 | 03stupid * r67651 10RS_ClassColors/ (RS_ClassColors.toc locales/): RS_ClassColors: folder naming conventions, part 1 |
| 08:08.14 | Xan3 | i want to upgrade simpleunitframe from ace2 to ace2 or rock |
| 08:08.24 | Xan3 | anyone can help me? |
| 08:08.48 | CIA-9 | 03stupid * r67652 10RS_ClassColors/Locales/ (. enUS.lua): RS_ClassColors: folder naming conventions, part 2 |
| 08:09.06 | Nandini | why do you want to upgrade it? unless there are specific performance reasons, if it ain't broke, don't fix it :) |
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| 08:09.53 | Nandini | changing frameworks is not really an "upgrade" unless you can name those performance benefits beforehand |
| 08:10.19 | haste | from ace2 to ace2? :3 |
| 08:10.25 | Xan3 | lol |
| 08:10.31 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r67653 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib-1.0: Add Spell Haste Rating |
| 08:10.33 | Ellipsis | that should be easy |
| 08:10.38 | Xan3 | mauau |
| 08:10.45 | haste | yes, it's like... do a checkout - done |
| 08:10.53 | Xan3 | simply for learning |
| 08:10.53 | haste | or fetch it from files! |
| 08:11.05 | haste | then try it yourself if you want to learn |
| 08:11.13 | Xan3 | yes |
| 08:11.19 | haste | you asked about it yesterday also, at this speed you'll hae zero progress |
| 08:11.37 | haste | adds the fact that it's bad to start straight on a framework. |
| 08:11.47 | Nandini | rather than trying to "upgrade" it from ace2 to another framework, you might learn more by writing a new addon using that framework |
| 08:11.56 | capullo | wow sunwell is getting funny with omen |
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| 08:12.32 | capullo | trust or not to trust, thats the question |
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| 08:13.00 | Nandini | test, and if you get unexpected results, report them on the forum |
| 08:13.10 | capullo | the problem is not omen self |
| 08:13.22 | capullo | the problem is, that the complete raid use different versions |
| 08:13.31 | nevcairiel | get them all to update |
| 08:13.33 | nevcairiel | and you can trust it |
| 08:13.43 | Aiiane | Aye, just get everyone to update right before the raid |
| 08:13.49 | Nandini | my whole raid updated to the exact same revision tonight and it worked flawlessly for us |
| 08:13.49 | capullo | some are using wau, some not |
| 08:13.51 | nevcairiel | it works very nice now |
| 08:13.53 | Aiiane | or, if they're scared of a sudden bug |
| 08:14.07 | Aiiane | post a specific version somewhere (hopefully a recent one) |
| 08:14.08 | Nandini | just give them the URL http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip |
| 08:14.10 | Aiiane | and have them all toss it in |
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| 08:14.20 | nevcairiel | we killed brutallus with it last night, didnt seem to bug out at all anymore |
| 08:14.22 | Aiiane | or use the auto-built one, yep |
| 08:14.24 | capullo | i use omen without externals |
| 08:14.46 | nevcairiel | now i am trying to fix the healer mode 0P |
| 08:14.50 | capullo | we also killed brutallus yesterday |
| 08:15.08 | capullo | for brutallus you dont need omen |
| 08:15.19 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 08:15.22 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell * r67654 10CooldownToGo/CooldownToGo.toc: CooldownToGo: added wowi release info |
| 08:15.37 | nevcairiel | some of our dps went really close to the aggro limit |
| 08:15.44 | capullo | because i go all in |
| 08:16.17 | capullo | waiting until brutallus hits the tank 1-2 times, then 2 scorch, then fireball spam |
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| 08:16.37 | durcyn | your dps blows then, because i can pull aggro on demand |
| 08:16.45 | Xan3 | the idea: use BlizUF_LMH4 for examples!!!! |
| 08:16.46 | nevcairiel | we had aggro pulls during the first minute or first 30s because we need full dps from the beginning, specially in that phase omen helps alot |
| 08:17.07 | capullo | hmm, i made yesterday after the 2 scorch 7 FB crits in row |
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| 08:17.19 | capullo | i think this was very close to aggro limit :P |
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| 08:17.52 | Silviu- | i managed to puill aggro 3 times in a row .. :/ |
| 08:18.01 | Silviu- | I mean 3 wipes one after other |
| 08:18.07 | CIA-9 | 03orionshock * r67655 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (core.lua localization-deDE.lua): |
| 08:18.07 | CIA-9 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 08:18.07 | CIA-9 | -Update deDE locale |
| 08:18.35 | nevcairiel | our mages got 2 heroisms, our top mage was near aggro at the end of the fight too :P |
| 08:18.35 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r67656 10LibItemBonus-2.0/LibItemBonus-2.0/ (locales/deDE.lua locales/enUS.lua locales/frFR.lua test.lua): |
| 08:18.35 | CIA-9 | LibItemBonus-2.0: |
| 08:18.35 | CIA-9 | _ Add Spell Haste Rating in enUS. |
| 08:18.35 | CIA-9 | _ Removed implied Healing bonus when only spell damage is referenced in enUS, |
| 08:18.36 | CIA-9 | deDE and frFR. I can't do the same in koKR and zhTW, sadly. I hope it will fix |
| 08:18.37 | CIA-9 | the difference between calculated heal bonus and real heal bonus. |
| 08:18.42 | capullo | but what i want to say, it took around 20 minutes for the raid to update omen |
| 08:18.53 | nevcairiel | why? o.O |
| 08:18.54 | capullo | me too |
| 08:19.04 | capullo | 2250 dps |
| 08:19.13 | Gngsk | depending on the strat you use taunts can help keep tanks ahead on aggro |
| 08:19.18 | nevcairiel | i just post a new omen version at raid start, tell everyone to update, and its done |
| 08:19.34 | nevcairiel | if someone doesnt manage, he can sit out :D |
| 08:19.37 | Silviu- | nevcariel it`s easy for u since u are raidlead |
| 08:19.47 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: did you kill him? |
| 08:19.47 | Silviu- | at us raidlead don`t even update his own Omen ;p |
| 08:19.51 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: yea |
| 08:19.57 | NeoTron | grats. we got a few attempts |
| 08:20.02 | capullo | in enrage? :P |
| 08:20.02 | Silviu- | I must tell them every time ;) |
| 08:20.10 | nevcairiel | i think 2s or so in enrage |
| 08:20.10 | NeoTron | mostly going in and seeing the tanks die but alas. 80% or so best attempt |
| 08:20.11 | nevcairiel | not sure |
| 08:20.17 | capullo | how many healers? |
| 08:20.18 | NeoTron | we didn't try to get a good group for it |
| 08:20.22 | nevcairiel | 8 |
| 08:20.28 | Silviu- | At us best was 16% :( |
| 08:20.31 | NeoTron | we plan for 2 tanks, 8 healers |
| 08:20.41 | capullo | we had 7 |
| 08:20.48 | capullo | but only 2 warlocks |
| 08:20.51 | Silviu- | Then tanks died ;) |
| 08:20.52 | NeoTron | we'll be there for 3 more nights |
| 08:20.58 | NeoTron | likely 4 warlocks |
| 08:21.05 | capullo | we changed our positions |
| 08:21.05 | nevcairiel | we didnt think 8 healers would be possible dps-wise, but our first attempts looked so promising with dps that we didnt want to increase the risk of people dying |
| 08:21.07 | NeoTron | our locks, myself included, own the dps meters typically |
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| 08:21.26 | capullo | the difference was to make 2 camps only with 7 players each |
| 08:21.27 | nevcairiel | our glaive rogue owned the dps meters with 2400 dps |
| 08:21.30 | NeoTron | we had two locks spec affliction for kalecgos |
| 08:21.33 | NeoTron | it was awful! |
| 08:21.49 | NeoTron | we've had just 1 glaive drop |
| 08:22.01 | Grum | nevcairiel: 10m hp in 6min right? |
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| 08:22.10 | durcyn | three offhands in >6 months, and that's it =( |
| 08:22.13 | capullo | 10,5 HP in 6 minutes :P |
| 08:22.32 | Grum | 10.5? |
| 08:22.36 | capullo | yes |
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| 08:22.56 | durcyn | Grum: it's european decimal numbers sterling you see |
| 08:22.57 | NeoTron | is that a buff from the PTR? |
| 08:23.06 | thul | grimgrumgram |
| 08:23.23 | nevcairiel | capullo: our WWS says 10M exactly |
| 08:23.32 | durcyn | what i want to know, is why they ninja changed the range on the stupid slash |
| 08:23.35 | capullo | 10 502 058 |
| 08:23.43 | Grum | lol |
| 08:23.52 | Grum | what did the ingame mobhealth say? |
| 08:24.08 | nevcairiel | 9.9 or so |
| 08:24.08 | capullo | 10.5m |
| 08:24.18 | Grum | you just fail capullo ;D |
| 08:24.18 | durcyn | http://wowwebstats.com/j21j36kogxnsi?s=10683-11017 < 10,507,475, give or take. |
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| 08:24.42 | nevcairiel | hm interesting |
| 08:24.50 | durcyn | hm, some of that might be misattributed damage from something else though |
| 08:24.59 | nevcairiel | WWS claims that fight had 10M dmg |
| 08:25.09 | nevcairiel | but it still lists us as doing 10.5M doing |
| 08:25.36 | nevcairiel | -doing |
| 08:25.51 | Grum | nevcairiel: humz |
| 08:26.07 | nevcairiel | do warlocks build up 500k dmg with lifetap? :P |
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| 08:26.42 | Grum | mmm |
| 08:27.03 | nevcairiel | oh well whatever HP he has |
| 08:27.05 | nevcairiel | he is dead |
| 08:27.06 | nevcairiel | or rather |
| 08:27.09 | nevcairiel | respawned by now |
| 08:27.09 | Zeksie | oh, about omen: can we get the 'whisper out of date players' thing to whisper more than the 5 or 6 ppl that it does atm before it gets whisper spam blocked by wow? |
| 08:27.29 | nevcairiel | Zeksie: not easily, i suppose |
| 08:27.35 | Grum | one did: 33,053 |
| 08:27.50 | Grum | so nah that wont account for 500k |
| 08:27.53 | Zeksie | yeah. figured not. or, as an alternative. a copy'n'pastable list of names I can just dump to /rw |
| 08:27.55 | Grum | so he has 10.5m |
| 08:28.14 | nevcairiel | Zeksie: i just yell at vent :D |
| 08:28.18 | Zeksie | heh |
| 08:28.51 | durcyn | my favorite is when i tell people not to update during the raid, and sure enough some chump comes in with a new version after a protocl change |
| 08:29.00 | durcyn | so we have to sit down for five minutes while everyone updates >_< |
| 08:29.01 | Grum | 3 tanks, 7 healers == 15 dps .. so 1945 dps per person? |
| 08:29.01 | Zeksie | haha |
| 08:29.24 | Grum | lua> 10500000/60/6/15 |
| 08:29.25 | lua_bot | Grum: 1944.4444444444 |
| 08:29.34 | Orionshock | Antiarc: much hate for the protocol changes so close to each other :\ much greif and pain from guild :( |
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| 08:30.26 | Grum | Orionshock: 15 minutes before every raid: 'update your omen!' |
| 08:30.48 | Civrock | And when that update causes lockup issues = win. ;) |
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| 08:31.56 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: you would rather have it bugged ? :P |
| 08:32.14 | Grum | so many protocol changes havent occured right? |
| 08:32.24 | nevcairiel | 2 in the last 2 days |
| 08:32.29 | nevcairiel | before that not so much |
| 08:32.30 | Grum | and one 6 days back |
| 08:32.31 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: i agree, quality is priority but it's starting to piss the guild off that they have to go update and im being an ass about it :D |
| 08:32.32 | Grum | orso |
| 08:32.44 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: tell them to WAU |
| 08:32.51 | Grum | tell them to use clue! |
| 08:32.54 | Orionshock | they are not that smart |
| 08:33.07 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: but hopefully it'll be over now, the new protocol is nice (and bugfree now) |
| 08:33.37 | Orionshock | but that wisper older client button is nice :D |
| 08:34.34 | Grum | nevcairiel: yesterday the version-check still failed in Omen |
| 08:34.38 | Grum | its kinda annoying |
| 08:34.52 | Grum | you have version 12351 and below: 'new 12351!' |
| 08:34.59 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: which guild are you in? |
| 08:35.16 | nevcairiel | Grum: oh that, i wanted to look into that |
| 08:35.24 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: Viribus Unitis EU-Antonidas |
| 08:35.30 | Grum | it confuses the hell out of people |
| 08:35.30 | NeoTron | ah |
| 08:35.50 | CIA-9 | 03hedin * r67657 10WF3sec/core.lua: WF3sec: Added test bars. (Sometimes you will need to /reloadui after tweaking) |
| 08:35.57 | nevcairiel | killed brutallus like an hour before the other guild |
| 08:36.00 | nevcairiel | that pissed them so off |
| 08:36.02 | nevcairiel | was great |
| 08:36.02 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:36.05 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 08:36.13 | Superfly1 | its better than your omen was saying on the window <whateverversion>, and show outdated said your omen version unknown, however there is a new version: <whateverversion> |
| 08:36.18 | nevcairiel | they had kalecgos an hour before us |
| 08:36.25 | nevcairiel | but with like 50% more time on him |
| 08:37.11 | NeoTron | we were almost equal to or beat a guild ont he server that had killed him on the PTR |
| 08:37.18 | NeoTron | and they also raid 1 day more per week than us |
| 08:37.51 | NeoTron | still we killed Illidan pretty late |
| 08:37.57 | NeoTron | like the day(s) before christmas |
| 08:38.07 | NeoTron | so I'm pretty stoked we got kalecgos down |
| 08:38.45 | Grum | how many healers NeoTron? |
| 08:39.18 | Grum | atm we were still having problems with healers not being able to keep their groups up as well as standing apart enough and not forgetting a portal |
| 08:39.28 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67658 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: fix another de-serialization issue |
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| 08:41.52 | NeoTron | 8 healers |
| 08:41.54 | NeoTron | we went down 1 today |
| 08:42.02 | NeoTron | we also went to 4 groups, using G1-4 |
| 08:42.17 | NeoTron | with G5 having 2 extra dps and 3 tanks on their own rotation |
| 08:42.19 | Zeksie | bleh @ servers |
| 08:42.27 | NeoTron | the G5 dps (locks) went in at 1 and 3rd portal or so |
| 08:42.36 | Zeksie | for once... bring them back up early.. |
| 08:42.36 | NeoTron | and we had imps, shadow embrace etc going |
| 08:42.57 | NeoTron | it seems to be |
| 08:43.00 | NeoTron | luck happens |
| 08:43.03 | Grum | NeoTron: ah we had no shadowpriests at all |
| 08:43.16 | Grum | and 3 CoH priests |
| 08:43.22 | NeoTron | one attempt we had the portals really close to eachother and was so offsync the outside tank died |
| 08:43.34 | NeoTron | shadow embrace = -5% affliction lock thing |
| 08:43.39 | NeoTron | but we did use 2 shadow priests. they help |
| 08:43.52 | NeoTron | and we hanged to going by G1-5 helping a lot with the CoH |
| 08:44.15 | NeoTron | having a poor ret pally heal for us |
| 08:44.24 | NeoTron | he used to be holy but converted early into T6 |
| 08:44.31 | NeoTron | but our main holy pally is on vacation |
| 08:45.01 | Grum | ah well, groups have to stay alive and that takes some internal communication |
| 08:45.05 | Grum | you cant 'singleheal' them alive |
| 08:45.08 | Grum | its just not possible alone |
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| 08:45.20 | Grum | especially if you have groups taking 8+ stacks |
| 08:45.28 | NeoTron | frankly |
| 08:45.37 | NeoTron | we went with 9 healers before and was considering 10 |
| 08:45.45 | NeoTron | we went down to 8 and made groups fixed |
| 08:45.48 | Mytos | alright, solved that problem, now who wants to solve my other problem |
| 08:45.53 | Grum | every 7 seconds 4k, 4.5k, 5k 5.5k <-- higher than 5.5 is nearly insta-kill |
| 08:45.55 | NeoTron | with 2 healers, 1 decursers per group |
| 08:46.10 | Grum | we did that as well |
| 08:46.18 | Grum | but we have 1 'floater paladin' in grp1 |
| 08:46.24 | NeoTron | the kill attempt my addon kept marking things exactly in order |
| 08:46.28 | Grum | he can just bubble through one set of portals |
| 08:46.36 | NeoTron | it was in-sync which means the timing between portals was almost perfectly 30s |
| 08:46.40 | NeoTron | that helps a heck of a lot |
| 08:46.51 | Grum | how do you mean, kept marking things in order? |
| 08:46.55 | charon | nevcairiel: what's the point in this change (if you have time to explain -- just wondering) |
| 08:46.56 | Grum | what kinda of addon did you use ? |
| 08:46.57 | charon | - for k, v in msg:gmatch("([^=:]+)=(%d+)") do |
| 08:46.57 | charon | + for k, v in msg:gmatch("([^=:]+)=(%d+),") do |
| 08:47.00 | NeoTron | I have an addon that marks the group |
| 08:47.02 | NeoTron | I made it |
| 08:47.03 | NeoTron | in fact |
| 08:47.06 | charon | doesn't the + match greedily? |
| 08:47.12 | NeoTron | I remade it while clearing trash tonigh |
| 08:47.12 | Grum | charon: its not regexes |
| 08:47.15 | nevcairiel | thats the problem charon :P |
| 08:47.17 | Mytos | have they gotten parrot working again yet? |
| 08:47.44 | Grum | NeoTron: so when your group is up you get marks on your head orso? |
| 08:47.46 | NeoTron | it gets very confused if the timing means groups don't port when they should - i.e it tells me it's time for me to port when I had 30s left |
| 08:47.49 | NeoTron | yes |
| 08:47.50 | NeoTron | and whispers |
| 08:47.58 | NeoTron | and if you have the addon installed it shakes your screen |
| 08:48.16 | NeoTron | I do intend to polish it up and put it up on wowace |
| 08:48.22 | NeoTron | it's err rough around the edges |
| 08:48.29 | nevcairiel | lua> local s = "playerGUID:mobGUID=10,mobGUID2=20,mobGUID3=40"; local output = ""; for k,v in s:gmatch("([^=:]+)=(%d+)") do output = output .. " " .. k end print(output) |
| 08:48.29 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: mobGUID ,mobGUID2 ,mobGUID3 |
| 08:48.34 | Grum | so how would you cope with the 4th group trying to take the portal and the mage having to iceblock not to die because of the portal queue and the incoming 12'th stack |
| 08:48.35 | nevcairiel | see |
| 08:48.37 | nevcairiel | , included |
| 08:48.37 | Grum | and then staying outside? :D |
| 08:48.41 | nevcairiel | lua> local s = "playerGUID:mobGUID=10,mobGUID2=20,mobGUID3=40"; local output = ""; for k,v in s:gmatch("([^=:]+)=(%d+),") do output = output .. " " .. k end print(output) |
| 08:48.41 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: mobGUID mobGUID2 |
| 08:48.42 | NeoTron | still require you to manually edit the file to know who the tanks are (because I haven't had time to make it use any other methods) |
| 08:48.46 | nevcairiel | no , |
| 08:48.50 | Civrock | Hmm, some mod is making a sound whenever a hostile player gains/casts Power Word: Shield and I can't figure out which addon it is. |
| 08:48.53 | nevcairiel | except i messed up the format :P |
| 08:48.56 | nevcairiel | lua> local s = "playerGUID:mobGUID=10,mobGUID2=20,mobGUID3=40,"; local output = ""; for k,v in s:gmatch("([^=:]+)=(%d+),") do output = output .. " " .. k end print(output) |
| 08:48.57 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: mobGUID mobGUID2 mobGUID3 |
| 08:48.57 | charon | oh |
| 08:49.01 | charon | yeah i see what you mean |
| 08:49.05 | charon | i was totally on the wrong tracks |
| 08:49.28 | charon | i was trying to figure out how ',' would affect the _current_ match, when it's really only to eat the ',' for the next one. thanks. |
| 08:49.46 | Grum | nevcairiel: why not split on : and then on , ? :P |
| 08:50.01 | nevcairiel | because its easier to iterate like that :) |
| 08:50.12 | nevcairiel | and less string garbage |
| 08:50.19 | Grum | true :) |
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| 08:55.32 | Kalroth | unf |
| 08:55.43 | kebinusan | bleh I need more fps |
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| 08:59.50 | tamaroth | hello |
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| 09:03.08 | Elkano | lol... "Choose your language: [ ] Development" |
| 09:03.58 | Zeksie | yes... server's overdue now.. :| |
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| 09:06.15 | [eu]gunder | need... server... online... (withdrawal symptom) |
| 09:06.24 | Ellipsis | settle down, kids |
| 09:06.47 | Snago | What is GUID an acronym for? |
| 09:06.52 | Snago | Global Unit ID? |
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| 09:07.34 | CIA-9 | 03wang * r67660 10Violation/locales/zhCN.lua: Violation: zhCN local fix a typo error |
| 09:08.15 | exor|zzz | Globally Unique Identifier, but WoW might decide to be unique in its meaning |
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| 09:14.05 | Kurax | Global unique id I believe |
| 09:14.06 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r67661 10Violation/locales/ (zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): |
| 09:14.06 | CIA-9 | Violation: |
| 09:14.06 | CIA-9 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 09:18.11 | Cartas | tickles Kalroth. |
| 09:18.58 | Kalroth | *GiGGLeZ* |
| 09:20.22 | Zeksie | yay @ servers |
| 09:20.56 | Zeksie | and wtf @ recount |
| 09:21.10 | Mytos | what? |
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| 09:21.28 | Zeksie | lots of test bars, scrollbar out of frame. and an error ;) |
| 09:21.53 | Mytos | Zeksie: wheres my bag mod darn it |
| 09:22.24 | Zeksie | screw that.. |
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| 09:26.07 | CIA-9 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 09:26.07 | CIA-9 | - Price updates (from EU armory as the US armory has been impossible to mine from lately). |
| 09:26.16 | Trell_ | luckily MSBT only needed me to make a couple of changes for it to be ok looking 'straight out of the box' as it were |
| 09:26.25 | Trell_ | but that being said, it's not Parrot :'( |
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| 09:27.06 | Trell_ | best thing for me this path is the sound engine update thing, that prevents the crash every time you log out/exit |
| 09:27.16 | Trell_ | *patch |
| 09:27.35 | Mytos | Zeksie: wheres my bag mod |
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| 09:27.53 | Elkano | I wonder if my client will still hang itself when porting to or from the new isle :/ |
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| 09:28.14 | Kurax | Elkano: Which addon cause that? |
| 09:28.41 | Ellipsis | default UI |
| 09:28.52 | Trell_ | Elkano: had a few guildies complaining about that too |
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| 09:29.05 | Ellipsis | it's because of the combat log refiltering |
| 09:29.08 | penguin | hey, in SCT how do you move the cooldown event from frame to frame? |
| 09:29.14 | penguin | I cant seem to find it anywhere in the events |
| 09:29.20 | Kurax | Yeah, I got some complains about that too, but I have no idea why |
| 09:29.21 | penguin | HI ELLIPSIS! |
| 09:29.31 | Ellipsis | HI PENGUIN |
| 09:29.36 | Trell_ | Gatherer? |
| 09:29.40 | cncfanatics | amg, L has arrived |
| 09:29.50 | Trell_ | someone on MMOC is saying it's to do with Gatherer, but thats been hotfixed out now |
| 09:29.55 | Ellipsis | I've always been here, cncfanatics :P |
| 09:31.36 | cncfanatics | I have arrived then, happy ? |
| 09:31.45 | cncfanatics | btw, could anyone help me with secure stuff ? I'd need an example on how to declare to position of buttons with attributes, because I'm not managing on my own :s |
| 09:32.05 | Elkano | cncfanatics: L is dead, long lives Q! |
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| 09:32.33 | cncfanatics | kira didn't write L's name in the death note yet ! |
| 09:32.35 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: forgive me for saying this, but I tend to lose faith in the action bar addons I use when their authors ask "could anyone help me with secure stuff?" |
| 09:32.51 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis: I haven't used any damn secure shit since months |
| 09:32.58 | Ellipsis | that's my point :P |
| 09:33.13 | cncfanatics | and I've never worked with attributes for positioning before so I can't refer back to old code |
| 09:33.47 | cncfanatics | for the record, I knew nothing of secure shit when I started on FB2, but its still the most complete actionbar addon around |
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| 09:34.12 | cncfanatics | so QQ :) |
| 09:34.32 | FtH|Daemona | wtf did elsia do with recount? |
| 09:34.59 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r67664 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua locales/enUS.lua): WitchHunt: add icon support, drycode until I can get online |
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| 09:35.46 | Kemayo | Elkano: That was Astrolabe. (Which is used in Gatherer.) But it was fixed a week or so ago. |
| 09:35.59 | evl | Anyway to detect if you interrupted someones spell cast with a stun/incapacitate? |
| 09:36.32 | Kemayo | Since it's mentioned in the combat log, yes. |
| 09:36.40 | Mytos | is there something busted in parrot or is it just me, im getting notifications but no healing or damage displays |
| 09:36.52 | Elkano | Kemayo, ok, didn't update thatone ^^ |
| 09:36.59 | Ellipsis | Mytos: hasn't been updated for 2.4 yet |
| 09:37.02 | cncfanatics | I don't think parrot got updated for 2.4 yet mytos |
| 09:37.16 | [Ammo] | use MSBT for now, or permanently :) |
| 09:37.24 | [Ammo] | ~msbt |
| 09:37.25 | purl | [msbt] Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 09:37.30 | Mytos | i thought it had been, i ran wau earlier and it downloaded an update |
| 09:37.30 | Ellipsis | msbt isn't bad as a temporary replacement |
| 09:37.42 | Ellipsis | that was probably from embedded libs being updated |
| 09:37.47 | penguin | anyone know what cooldowns are listed as in SCT events? |
| 09:37.53 | Ellipsis | the addon itself has no code for the 2.4 combat log yet |
| 09:38.18 | Kemayo | evl: I take pity upon your search for interrupts: http://wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details |
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| 09:38.37 | Kemayo | (Technically linking to the COMBAT_LOG_EVENT docs might not actually be pity.) |
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| 09:39.18 | cncfanatics | ~framexml |
| 09:39.19 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
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| 09:41.37 | Kurax | ~lart KR translator |
| 09:41.37 | purl | farts in KR translator's general direction |
| 09:41.41 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67665 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: tweak threat_update code |
| 09:41.54 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: IS IT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE?! |
| 09:41.58 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 09:42.04 | Kalroth | oops, caps |
| 09:42.05 | nevcairiel | just some runtime improvements |
| 09:42.10 | Ellipsis | someone break something, Kurax? |
| 09:42.16 | Kalroth | The ?! was intended though |
| 09:42.28 | nevcairiel | looked like the caps were too =P |
| 09:42.48 | Kurax | Ellipsis: Yeah....Using Ace2 to create AceLocale-3.0 object =/ |
| 09:42.52 | Kalroth | Kinda, I saw them coming, but I didn't bother to fix them before pressing enter :P |
| 09:42.54 | Ellipsis | lolwut |
| 09:42.58 | Ellipsis | that's...creative |
| 09:43.15 | nevcairiel | the protocol breaking changes should be over now |
| 09:43.17 | nevcairiel | for good |
| 09:43.47 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: You should just transmit all data as XML, then the protocol will never break! |
| 09:44.02 | Kalroth | (That's what our project managers thinks anyways) |
| 09:44.03 | Ellipsis | chokes on her soda |
| 09:44.03 | nevcairiel | yeah and the data will arrive an hour late because of all the overhead :D |
| 09:44.26 | Ellipsis | I vote Kalroth be burned at the stake for even joking about that |
| 09:44.41 | evl | Kemayo: Thanks, i think I have to look at SPELL_CAST_FAILED and then failedType or something |
| 09:45.05 | Trell_ | ... ever since the patch this morning im getting so many problems |
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| 09:45.20 | evl | Kemayo: Would be really helpful if someone could write something that translated each of the eventTypes into what you actually see in the combat log with parameters explaining what you can investigate |
| 09:45.32 | Trell_ | looting problems, and this is the best one: 'target is friendly' when I'm trying to hunters mark a coyote :P |
| 09:45.41 | Trell_ | yet my pet will still attack it, and I can shoot at it >_< |
| 09:45.42 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: can I shoot your project manager ? |
| 09:46.00 | Nimble_Rabit | can anyone link me a good felguard spec? |
| 09:46.11 | Kalroth | We got a customer that does around 3-4 tablelocking transactions every second (it's data from various shops around the world) - few weeks ago they contacted us and said they couldn't fix the table locking issues on the database (MS SQL), so they wanted to know if we could implement it using XML for data storage instead. |
| 09:46.25 | Ellipsis | databases are too strict |
| 09:46.34 | Ellipsis | with XML, you can throw data in using any format you like! |
| 09:46.35 | Kalroth | Of course they still expected realtime analysis reports based on the XML data. |
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| 09:47.20 | Mytos | HAH |
| 09:47.26 | Kalroth | I flipped the middle finger at them (in a polite way) and forwarded them to our local MS SQL salesperson :P |
| 09:47.26 | cncfanatics | why didn't they just contact you to fix the table locking issue ? |
| 09:47.53 | Arrowmaster | so if im overwriting blizzards CombatLog_LoadUI(), and i change a global inside that func then call LoadAddOn("Blizzard_CombatLog") that global should be changed for when Blizzard_CombatLog loads right |
| 09:47.55 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: Apparently they've got some (poorly coded) Navision scripts that -requires- table locking in order to function |
| 09:48.11 | cncfanatics | rewrite that god damn script then |
| 09:48.19 | nevcairiel | navision is evil |
| 09:48.21 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 09:48.25 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: And like hell I'm going to fuck around with Navision, pos software. |
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| 09:49.58 | Kalroth | XML is dandy for something like simple webservices where it doesn't matter if you have to wait up to a second for a reply. |
| 09:50.28 | Kalroth | But using it as data storage is just .. ick. |
| 09:51.28 | cncfanatics | I personaly love sqlight for storage :p |
| 09:51.51 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67667 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: two more tweaks |
| 09:51.54 | Kalroth | Yup, SQLite is awesome for small applications/servers |
| 09:52.22 | cncfanatics | probably not fast enough and not handy enough for big servers though |
| 09:52.32 | cncfanatics | as you'd probably need a dedicated database server for large projects anyway |
| 09:53.05 | CIA-9 | 03yleaf * r67668 10WitchHunt/locales/zhCN.lua: WitchHunt: zhCN update |
| 09:53.34 | Kalroth | Well SQLite got several plusses; one of them being the price. :) |
| 09:53.52 | cncfanatics | heh, true that |
| 09:53.52 | Kalroth | But it's also largely SQL-92 compatible and it supports stored procs now (I believe) |
| 09:54.04 | Grum | as long as you dont use it multi-user it works excellent |
| 09:54.12 | cncfanatics | I have very poor database knowledge so forgive me for not knowing what stored procs are |
| 09:54.32 | Grum | also many updates slow it down massively unless you fiddle with some syncing rules |
| 09:54.48 | Kalroth | It's basically a serverside function, cncfanatics |
| 09:55.08 | Kalroth | It allows for fast manipulation of data without having to fetch it to the client |
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| 09:55.31 | Grum | people love to abuse it for generic database access where the people on the 'user side' have no idea what is going on in the database itself |
| 09:55.49 | cncfanatics | serverland operations basicly ? |
| 09:55.54 | Grum | oh and what Kalroth, and basicly moving businesslogic into the database .. MEGACRAI |
| 09:56.10 | Grum | and then you have oracle, that builds complete applications in stored procedures |
| 09:56.14 | Arrowmaster | ok im about to swear here that bliz has some funky ass shit going on with their ui files when they load and not using the global env |
| 09:57.12 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: Yup, pretty much. It's good for large data calculations, since the SQL server can optimize how it fetches and handles data. |
| 09:57.33 | Kalroth | Grum: We -usually- use databases in a flat way |
| 09:57.36 | Arrowmaster | WTF |
| 09:57.40 | Grum | Kalroth: imho they are really good or some things indeed |
| 09:57.45 | Grum | but i rather leave them alone completely |
| 09:57.51 | Kalroth | Grum: meaning business objects on the client and semi-OO tables |
| 09:58.34 | Grum | 'business object' kek .. horrid manager talk :) |
| 09:58.41 | Kalroth | Sorry :P |
| 09:58.47 | Kalroth | I'm used to talking to them |
| 09:58.48 | Grum | but yeah i get your drift |
| 09:59.01 | Arrowmaster | IM FUCKING NIL'ING CHATFRAME2 BEFORE THE COMBATLOG LOADS WHY IS IT STILL THERE! |
| 09:59.10 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: owned! |
| 09:59.15 | Arrowmaster | WHY |
| 09:59.55 | Grum | but the second business logic goes into your database you are basicly screwed |
| 10:00.08 | Arrowmaster | function CombatLog_LoadUI() ChatFrame2 = nil LoadAddOn("Blizzard_CombatLog") end |
| 10:00.10 | Arrowmaster | WHY DAMNIT |
| 10:00.22 | Grum | because stored procedures are a horror to manage, hell you cant even store them in a VCS O.o |
| 10:00.24 | Kalroth | Grum: Hell yes, database for data, not logics! |
| 10:00.27 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r67669 10Omen/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Omen: deDE update |
| 10:01.03 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: I had similar issues with unanchoring the petbar and then hiding the mainframe |
| 10:01.07 | cncfanatics | framexml is weird |
| 10:01.17 | Arrowmaster | I FUCKING NILED IT |
| 10:01.38 | cncfanatics | did it make a local reference to it before you nil'd it ? |
| 10:01.41 | cncfanatics | only reason I can see |
| 10:01.46 | Grum | <Arrowmaster> function CombatLog_LoadUI() ChatFrame2 = nil LoadAddOn("Blizzard_CombatLog") end <--- you forgot a ';' ;D |
| 10:01.48 | Arrowmaster | line 22 of Blizzard_CombatLog.lua |
| 10:01.50 | Arrowmaster | COMBATLOG = ChatFrame2; |
| 10:02.08 | Arrowmaster | it should be fucking nil |
| 10:02.18 | Arrowmaster | but its not |
| 10:02.27 | Grum | what was that url |
| 10:02.31 | Grum | wdt something |
| 10:02.37 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 10:02.37 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 10:02.39 | Grum | wdn :D |
| 10:02.41 | Grum | yeah ;D |
| 10:04.14 | CIA-9 | 03yleaf * r67670 10WitchHunt/locales/zhCN.lua: WitchHunt: fix zhCN locale |
| 10:04.15 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: Nailed |
| 10:05.40 | Arrowmaster | function CombatLog_LoadUI() ChatFrame2 = nil end |
| 10:05.48 | Arrowmaster | I STILL HAVE A COMBATLOG! |
| 10:06.05 | AbsoRayne | God the UI forums are dead tonight... |
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| 10:07.13 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: harder to get rid of than you think, huh |
| 10:08.05 | Ellipsis | chatframe2 gets recreated somewhere |
| 10:08.18 | Grum | i love blizz code: -- For debugging, remove for final commit |
| 10:08.29 | Ellipsis | I deleted mine and niled the CombatLog_LoadUI function and it still creates the frame on login and adds a bunch of random events to it |
| 10:08.39 | Orionshock | DBM says about VR that if ur dead the orbs announce works? |
| 10:09.56 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: no the chatframe reference is gone, although it seems the entire problem is in CombatLog_LoadUI() |
| 10:10.20 | Arrowmaster | since i still have a combatlog in that chatframe without that function |
| 10:10.36 | Arrowmaster | and looking at ACP i cant find the blizzard combatlog |
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| 10:13.36 | Orionshock | ok so what's the new funk for VR?? |
| 10:13.53 | Ellipsis | Eyes-1.0 |
| 10:14.18 | Ellipsis | Brain-1.0 helps too, but Blizz seems to design their encounters specifically so it's not required |
| 10:15.08 | robmorehouse | eyes-1.0? is that like voidreaver alarm? |
| 10:15.15 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
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| 10:17.26 | Ellipsis | wait, what |
| 10:17.38 | Ellipsis | LibStickyFrames-1.0, LegoBlock, ??? |
| 10:17.56 | robmorehouse | wanders off in boredom |
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| 10:18.23 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r67671 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Magetheridon Mind exhaustion is now 30 seconds |
| 10:20.05 | Snago | wants Brain-2.0, but is stuck with the old version. |
| 10:20.09 | cncfanatics | why not just remove mind exhaustion ? its irrelevant |
| 10:20.15 | cncfanatics | he doesn't use his thingy more often then once every min |
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| 10:20.59 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r67672 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Recount_Modes.lua): |
| 10:20.59 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 10:20.59 | CIA-9 | - Fixed up typo bugs. (lua block comments ftl) |
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| 10:30.20 | zapl | hmm jwu does not install statblocks when i just add statblock_xxx |
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| 10:35.34 | zapl | cowtip not coloring the background at all - known bug or did I fail? |
| 10:38.25 | [eu]gunder | ~fail zapl |
| 10:38.26 | purl | You suck at everything in life, zapl. I hate you because you fail. |
| 10:38.38 | zapl | damn |
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| 10:41.08 | Gelo | what addon do people use these days to get buff bars? |
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| 10:41.22 | Snago | ElkBuffBars |
| 10:41.49 | TE|kulaar | or buffalo |
| 10:41.56 | TE|kulaar | if you dislike bars |
| 10:42.23 | Gelo | I asked for bars specifically ;) |
| 10:43.13 | Elkano | EBB ;) |
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| 10:46.07 | Grum | but EBB is liek buggie etc! and some weid person made it! ;D |
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| 10:47.14 | Elkano | sad kitty is now sad :( |
| 10:49.02 | Gelo | What's Tench? |
| 10:49.18 | Snago | Temporary ENCHantments |
| 10:49.23 | Gelo | doh |
| 10:49.37 | Snago | like poisons, oils, etc |
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| 10:50.10 | cncfanatics | did a weird person just call someone a weird person ? |
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| 10:51.04 | mop_ | Is there a 'big macro' addon anymore |
| 10:52.05 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r67673 10WitchHunt/locales/koKR.lua: WitchHunt: koKR Update |
| 10:52.06 | CIA-9 | 03quezacolt * r67674 10Checklist2/ (Checklist2.toc Core.lua): Checklist2:Indentation edits |
| 10:55.47 | Aiiane | not sure how recently supermacro has been updated mop_ |
| 10:55.56 | CIA-9 | 03julith * r67675 10/branches/GridManaBars/: GridManaBars: added branches folder |
| 10:56.55 | mop_ | Updated 31/05/2007 (307 days ago) :E |
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| 10:58.55 | Aiiane | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7810-TrinityBars2.0.html apparently allows unlimited length macros |
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| 10:59.50 | mop_ | I just need it for pasting awesome asciis :-( |
| 11:01.43 | Grum | Julith: omg you are going to look into GMB? :D |
| 11:01.46 | Grum | many <3 =D |
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| 11:01.53 | Mushuk | hello |
| 11:02.00 | Grum | ohaithar! |
| 11:02.02 | Julith | already done |
| 11:02.07 | Grum | fixable? :D |
| 11:02.11 | Julith | needs to be tested and profiled |
| 11:02.27 | Grum | cool |
| 11:02.40 | Grum | if it doesnt crash i can test it |
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| 11:03.19 | Mushuk | if I ask for an svn access, how long do i have to wait for it? |
| 11:03.24 | Julith | yesterday night the memory-usage went from 800KiB to 30KiB in alterac-valley, I didn't check the CPU-usage yet |
| 11:05.14 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67676 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua: |
| 11:05.14 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 11:05.15 | CIA-9 | - fix syntax error (drycode ftw?) |
| 11:05.55 | digmouse | anybody experience game frame lag? |
| 11:06.18 | digmouse | I mean I have a high fps (60+), but I feel it lags |
| 11:06.26 | digmouse | like lost some frame |
| 11:07.02 | Elkano | 60 fps was to much for me so I turned on FSAA ^^ didn't even know the game supports it |
| 11:07.36 | digmouse | I can make a 100+ fps with 8X FSAA if turn off the mods |
| 11:07.59 | digmouse | but I feel lag -.- |
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| 11:08.27 | Elkano | *mindtrick* There is no lag. We may pass... |
| 11:08.53 | digmouse | *mindtrick* no lag, no lag |
| 11:08.57 | digmouse | (sleep) |
| 11:12.21 | Hobby-home | you have a flat screen? if so you can only see 60 anyway =P |
| 11:13.10 | digmouse | LCD and I turned off Vertical Sync |
| 11:13.28 | Hobby-home | you can still only see 60 =P |
| 11:13.52 | digmouse | but... I feel the game lag, not the feeling of low fps |
| 11:14.03 | Ozguli` | then blame the lag |
| 11:14.31 | digmouse | well, I cant fully describe that in English -.- |
| 11:15.02 | Hobby-home | "crap skips" ? |
| 11:15.04 | CIA-9 | 03sungam * r67677 10Darkness/Darkness.lua: |
| 11:15.04 | CIA-9 | Darkness: |
| 11:15.04 | CIA-9 | -- Updated for 2.4. Now supports haste. Changed priority, putting swd over mb. |
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| 11:15.29 | digmouse | maybe... I dont know.. just that kind of lag, every few seconds |
| 11:16.06 | Elkano | hmm... guild chat still keeps showing up in ChatFrame1 after login even though it's disabled there :/ |
| 11:16.06 | Grum | get that addon that forces your settings to save |
| 11:16.06 | Grum | or even after this 2.4.1 you have it? |
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| 11:16.11 | digmouse | Elk: right, something happened and we cant keep some settings |
| 11:16.23 | digmouse | Grum: what's that addon? |
| 11:17.08 | digmouse | I've lost my keybindings about 5 times after 2.4 on April 1st (not a good patchday) |
| 11:17.11 | Grum | the addon wont work on 2.4.1 unless the UI version remains unchanged |
| 11:17.36 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r67678 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (4 files): |
| 11:17.36 | CIA-9 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 11:17.36 | CIA-9 | - Update |
| 11:17.37 | digmouse | but I still got 2.4.0 here ^^ |
| 11:17.59 | Grum | euh? |
| 11:18.04 | Grum | should be 2.4.1 :D |
| 11:18.07 | Grum | where is 'here' ? :p |
| 11:18.10 | Elkano | eu is 2.4.1 |
| 11:18.14 | Grum | US not? |
| 11:18.22 | Elkano | us should be, too |
| 11:18.26 | Grum | yeah, thought so |
| 11:18.28 | Xelopheris | 2.4.1 is live everywhere |
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| 11:18.40 | digmouse | CN ^^ |
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| 11:19.10 | Grum | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html |
| 11:19.11 | digmouse | Forgotten lands ^^ |
| 11:19.20 | digmouse | Grum: thanks |
| 11:19.26 | CIA-9 | 03julith 07julith * r67679 10GridManaBars/ (. GridManaBars.lua): |
| 11:19.26 | CIA-9 | GridManaBars: code cleanup |
| 11:19.26 | CIA-9 | - removed fixed update timer |
| 11:19.26 | CIA-9 | - moved bar coloring and visibility calculation from the bar to the status |
| 11:19.26 | CIA-9 | - fixed size and position of ManaBar foreground to its background |
| 11:19.27 | CIA-9 | - some minor changes |
| 11:20.18 | Julith | ^ need testers :) |
| 11:20.25 | Grum | Julith: does it crash? |
| 11:20.29 | Grum | did you test it in a raid etc? |
| 11:20.36 | Grum | if so i'll use it tonight |
| 11:20.40 | Julith | i tested it in alterac valley |
| 11:20.42 | CIA-9 | 03yleaf * r67680 10WitchHunt/locales/ (zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): WitchHunt: zhTW update |
| 11:20.46 | Grum | good enough |
| 11:21.10 | Julith | but I wont lay my hands into fire that it wont crash |
| 11:21.32 | digmouse | SimpleCombatLog really over forever? |
| 11:22.26 | Grum | Julith: will test it |
| 11:22.50 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r67681 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 11:22.50 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 11:22.50 | CIA-9 | - 2.4.1 changes |
| 11:23.18 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r67682 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 11:23.18 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 11:23.18 | CIA-9 | - 2.4.1 changes |
| 11:23.22 | Lukian | what 2.4.1 changes were there? :o |
| 11:23.29 | Grum | hot sexy ones i hopes! |
| 11:23.32 | Lukian | or is someone just bumping the toc :p |
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| 11:24.21 | Ellipsis | there's no toc bump to do |
| 11:24.36 | iKON | Dogtags can't control the size of the font? |
| 11:24.55 | Lukian | oh yeah, forgot about that :) |
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| 11:25.22 | Xelopheris | No, ikon |
| 11:25.34 | iKON | weird |
| 11:26.36 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r67683 10FuBar_FriendsFu/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:26.36 | CIA-9 | FuBar_FriendsFu |
| 11:26.36 | CIA-9 | - added support for Blizzard notes |
| 11:26.36 | CIA-9 | - added code to fix the new gender based class names on some locals. Someone will have to update the locale files with the data though. |
| 11:26.36 | CIA-9 | - removed BabbleClass-2.2 |
| 11:26.37 | CIA-9 | - some other performance tweaks (upvalues and such) |
| 11:26.39 | CIA-9 | - TOC to 20400 |
| 11:27.17 | Ellipsis | no iKON, there's no tag for font size |
| 11:27.55 | Ellipsis | generally there aren't tags for fontstring properties, alpha and outline being the exceptions to that rule |
| 11:28.55 | Elkano | btw: blizzard failed wrt the raidtarget chat icons ^^ the tags aren't replaced in the chat bubbles |
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| 11:32.48 | mop_ | Is it possible to just take the infinite macro part out of infinity bars |
| 11:33.31 | Mytos | Yss: how is the unti frames coming along? |
| 11:33.43 | Mytos | nevermind hes not here |
| 11:34.24 | Xelopheris | Wow, one hell of an error... ace2 attempting to use CastSpellByName() O_o |
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| 11:36.07 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
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| 11:36.39 | Grum | Xelopheris: how is ace2 doing that? :D |
| 11:37.14 | nevcairiel | some other addon causes that |
| 11:38.21 | zapl | Grum: how do you color your chatframe tabs? iirc it was your screenshot :) |
| 11:38.39 | Grum | i dont use chatframe tabs |
| 11:38.44 | Grum | so not my screenshot :p |
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| 11:39.01 | Ellipsis | it was probably fane, whatever screenshot it was |
| 11:39.08 | mikma | you sure it wasn't haste-addon? |
| 11:39.20 | zapl | ty Ellipsis |
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| 11:43.59 | mop_ | Does anyoneh ave a link to creating 'MyFirstWoWGUI?' :P |
| 11:44.13 | zapl | its been <Bruners> http://ui.ipwn.se/i/187.jpg mine |
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| 11:44.39 | mikma | ain't that Fane or something like that, haste? |
| 11:44.51 | haste | wut? |
| 11:44.54 | Ellipsis | yeah, that's fane |
| 11:45.00 | haste | yep |
| 11:46.11 | zapl | nice small font in that screenshot. me want have! |
| 11:46.38 | Xelopheris | I wanna know why the hell they're killing that particular robot |
| 11:46.50 | CIA-9 | 03lordrhys * r67684 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (3 files): |
| 11:46.50 | CIA-9 | FuBar_FactionItemsFu: |
| 11:46.50 | CIA-9 | -- fixed misspelling of item causing nil error |
| 11:46.50 | CIA-9 | -- fixed problem with toggling of Netherwing Dragonflight Faction |
| 11:47.03 | Xelopheris | Or that's the one to the right and the guy has drawdistance way down |
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| 11:49.26 | zapl | robot? probably robot has no penis attachment. so robot must die |
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| 11:50.25 | sag_ich_nicht | It's funny, we had an issue with one of our frost mages pulling aggro on one of the flames and wiping us, when Omen showed him as being far below the flame tank. So even though Adrine was standing around doing what melee do on the fight(nothing), we still got to blame him for wiping us. Sometimes, it's nice raiding with a crazed rogue programmer. |
| 11:50.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ^--good job Antiarc |
| 11:50.42 | sag_ich_nicht | real pro |
| 11:50.59 | tamaroth | lol |
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| 11:51.24 | art3mis | so |
| 11:51.50 | art3mis | all you assclowns need to stop saving profiles based on character name and make them global so that ALL characters can access the profile |
| 11:51.58 | art3mis | that is all, now go fix it in your addons |
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| 11:53.21 | mitch0 | what was all that about? |
| 11:53.41 | mitch0 | isn't there a "select profile" or "copy from" usually? |
| 11:53.44 | mikma | he hates you all |
| 11:53.44 | mitch0 | oh well |
| 11:54.06 | mikma | everyone should privatemessage him some comments about that one |
| 11:54.35 | zapl | ~seen art3mis |
| 11:54.37 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge (3m 18s). Has said a total of 85 messages. Is idling for 45s, last said: 'no but i figure if i bitch about it generally itll get fixed too ;)'. |
| 11:54.52 | zapl | there he is |
| 11:54.52 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 11:55.14 | Ellipsis | yes, because general bitching so often finds its way to the people you actually want to bitch at |
| 11:55.28 | mitch0 | I misstyped his nick twice, amount of energy allocated on him was exceeded :) |
| 11:55.31 | mikma | thats why everyone needs to pm him |
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| 12:00.21 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 12:00.38 | sag_ich_nicht | where is that stupid guy i was havin a discussion with about ret paladins |
| 12:00.48 | Ellipsis | holds up a mirror for sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:00.50 | evl | we can't use omen atm |
| 12:00.57 | evl | just have to tell people to take it easy on agro |
| 12:01.05 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 12:01.08 | nevcairiel | omen works fine |
| 12:01.32 | Xelopheris | Omen works as long as you don't have one dumb fuck in your raid who's too incompetent to update it |
| 12:01.57 | vithos | omen displays numbers just fine, it's the numbers themselves that are the problem for my guild :P |
| 12:01.57 | evl | or lazy |
| 12:02.02 | evl | incompetence has nothing to do with lazy |
| 12:02.05 | Xelopheris | Gurtogg last night, had everyone update to the same revision of omen and threat. One priest figures "doesn't matter for me" and he fucks us all up |
| 12:02.07 | Ellipsis | such people are equally likely to pull aggro even if their omen *is* working |
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| 12:02.43 | sag_ich_nicht | correct |
| 12:02.44 | zapl | when gypsy mod was great ppl did it without easymode addons |
| 12:02.44 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 12:02.48 | sag_ich_nicht | where is that fool |
| 12:03.04 | Ellipsis | shoves the mirror in sag_ich_nicht's face |
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| 12:03.09 | sag_ich_nicht | not me |
| 12:03.10 | sag_ich_nicht | the other guy |
| 12:03.15 | Grum | Xelopheris: just check versions before you start? O.o |
| 12:03.15 | Ellipsis | riiiiiight |
| 12:03.18 | Ellipsis | hearing the voices again? |
| 12:03.27 | evl | I understand updating frequently is important but there is _no stable branch_ |
| 12:03.34 | Grum | zapl: 'easy mode' you cant do anymorer |
| 12:03.41 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67685 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: sanity check in comm handler |
| 12:03.41 | sag_ich_nicht | no someone in here was like "you don't need JoW just drink manapots on CD and everything is fine for everyone" |
| 12:03.44 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 12:03.52 | Xelopheris | Grum, I think we assumed when we said " Either turn it off or get THIS SPECIFIC ONE LINKED IN MY COMMENT " we assumed people woul |
| 12:03.57 | Xelopheris | guess that's our mistake |
| 12:04.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i wanna slap that person with this item: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22839 |
| 12:04.07 | Grum | yup |
| 12:04.12 | Grum | always check them |
| 12:04.13 | Grum | more than once |
| 12:04.13 | Ellipsis | I've got an item to slap you with |
| 12:04.19 | kalahassi | antiarc , as many people suggested, how about a new official omen-thread ? |
| 12:04.20 | cncfanatics | why sag_ich_nicht ? |
| 12:04.25 | Grum | i have a magic want to slap you with Ellipsis |
| 12:04.27 | cncfanatics | its decent for locks, they don't need mana pots |
| 12:05.12 | evl | normal software: build -> test -> branch -> build test -> branch, live svn feed from trunk: -> build -> panic -> build -> panic |
| 12:05.15 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: JoW provides more mp5 than mana pots on CD, that person was argueing that you don't need it tho since manapots are enough. kill the manapots, drink destruction pots, presto |
| 12:05.24 | cncfanatics | true |
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| 12:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Xelopheris: threat-2.0 might still load when they have some other addon optdeping it |
| 12:06.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and they might have just disabled omen but left Threat-2.0 enabled |
| 12:06.30 | Grum | evl: live svn feed from trunk: branch, edit, test, merge back |
| 12:06.33 | Grum | everyone happy |
| 12:06.42 | evl | and poeple have to update 23456789 times a day |
| 12:07.10 | Grum | people have to update that much if you edit in trunk yeah, people suffer from broken intermediate addons if you edit in trunk |
| 12:07.49 | Zhinjio | G'morning. |
| 12:08.05 | Ellipsis | evenin' Zhinjio |
| 12:08.08 | Ellipsis | :) |
| 12:08.44 | evl | I think most people would be happier knowing that they had version 1.1 and they could live without some new cutting edge features as long as it works |
| 12:09.01 | Zhinjio | licks Ellipsis |
| 12:10.25 | vithos | is there a "waiting to resurrect" timer addon? |
| 12:10.26 | cncfanatics | just don't use wowace and release stable zips every now and then, makes everyone happy |
| 12:11.13 | zapl | vithos: quartz has timer bars for that |
| 12:11.22 | Grum | evl: how is that not possible with the current system? :) |
| 12:11.36 | Mytos | anyone here use trinity bars? |
| 12:11.57 | evl | Grum: Because it's a dice roll if what you just downloaded is considered stable or contains a glaring error |
| 12:12.16 | Grum | you will always have fail-devs, if you have 'branded releases' or not |
| 12:12.22 | Grum | remember vista? ;D |
| 12:12.23 | Zhinjio | damnit. I must have rolled over and tweaked my leg again sleeping last night. This sucks. |
| 12:12.25 | Mytos | i need to know how im supposed to get a paged bar to switch pages |
| 12:12.26 | evl | Grum: And since addons are packaged with externals from another live SVN feed an update could potentially wreck an addon lib in the process |
| 12:12.30 | Ellipsis | evl: that's why you need to read the sign on the door that says "beta" |
| 12:12.33 | Grum | you'd think microsoft would have it working before shipping .. KEK! |
| 12:12.36 | vithos | zapl: it has a useless one yes, i already use quartz |
| 12:12.36 | mitch0 | grum: it would be easier to keep working "cutting edge" on trunk, and tag/branch stable releases. the zipper stuff should handle this |
| 12:12.46 | vithos | zapl: but having to release to see the timer doesn't help me |
| 12:12.50 | Grum | mitch0: easier for who? |
| 12:13.04 | mitch0 | grum: for me |
| 12:13.24 | mitch0 | repeatedly merging stuff into trunk is teh sux |
| 12:13.26 | Grum | so you do want to be bothered with the process of tagging stable but dont want to work in a branch? :) |
| 12:13.30 | Grum | why? |
| 12:13.37 | Grum | most of the times you can get away with a trunk-replace |
| 12:13.37 | Arrowmaster | merging on svn is the worst |
| 12:13.37 | mitch0 | whereas tagging a stable release is teh easy |
| 12:13.39 | mop_ | Does anyoneh ave a link to creating 'MyFirstWoWGUI?' :P |
| 12:13.45 | mop_ | tutorial or whatever |
| 12:14.06 | Grum | mop_: i wonder what you would like to see on 'such a page' |
| 12:14.11 | mitch0 | trunk-replace is just wrong |
| 12:14.13 | Grum | because i doubt its there |
| 12:14.16 | Grum | mitch0: why? |
| 12:14.25 | mitch0 | grum: especially if you happen to have more than one dev... |
| 12:14.27 | Grum | unless you made changes in trunk its no other than merging it back |
| 12:14.30 | Arrowmaster | im for switching to git instead of svn since it does merging and branching the best |
| 12:14.39 | mop_ | A simple hello world application on the GUI part? Never used it before |
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| 12:14.57 | Grum | ha! if you have more than one dev you especially do not want to be editing in trunk |
| 12:15.05 | mitch0 | sure you do |
| 12:15.06 | Grum | so that is a fail argument mitch0 |
| 12:15.11 | mitch0 | you fail |
| 12:15.22 | Grum | only if you are working on the same feature, which in that case could just as well be in a branch :) |
| 12:15.25 | mitch0 | have you worked on a _real_ project with multiple developers? |
| 12:15.43 | Grum | have you ever used a real VCS? |
| 12:15.53 | zapl | mop_: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_beginner%27s_guide somewhere there maybe |
| 12:15.56 | Grum | and no CVS/svn don't count as real |
| 12:16.11 | Zhinjio | has. both as a dev, as the scm, a team lead and as the pm. |
| 12:16.11 | Grum | sourcesafe is also fail from what i've heard :) |
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| 12:16.26 | mitch0 | they're real. not the best, but real nonetheless... you know, most of the opensource stuff was written using those... |
| 12:16.28 | Grum | but yes, i have mitch0, and currently am |
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| 12:16.41 | Grum | mitch0: with lots of pain, there is a reason the linux kernel didn't stay on those |
| 12:16.42 | zapl | vithos: i think i read about alarbghelper having something like that but i never saw it ingame |
| 12:16.48 | Arrowmaster | only because theyve been around the longest |
| 12:16.51 | mitch0 | grum: well your team's methodology differs from ours then ;) |
| 12:16.52 | Grum | and moved to bitkeeper, which went cocks up and they spawned git |
| 12:16.57 | Ellipsis | boys, put those away before you poke an eye out |
| 12:17.09 | Grum | mitch0: stable 'trunk' ftw - above all |
| 12:17.12 | evl | Make Stable, Not War |
| 12:17.15 | Grum | indede |
| 12:17.18 | Arrowmaster | did the linux kernel ever use cvs or svn? i didnt think so |
| 12:17.24 | Grum | not sure Arrowmaster |
| 12:17.27 | mitch0 | grum: "trunk" is dev |
| 12:17.29 | Grum | i just know it went bitkeeper->git |
| 12:17.37 | Arrowmaster | linus hates cvs and svn with a passion |
| 12:17.43 | Grum | mitch0: no .. that is what *YOU* use it for |
| 12:17.54 | Arrowmaster | hes for using tarballs and patches over cvs/svn |
| 12:18.00 | mitch0 | grum: read up on the freebsd releng process to get to know my pov better |
| 12:18.15 | Grum | mitch0: what should you use branches for then? |
| 12:18.25 | Arrowmaster | experimental stuff |
| 12:18.27 | Grum | and then what is the line on which you decide something should be a branch yes or no? |
| 12:18.30 | mitch0 | grum: that's what (among others) freebsd is using, and they have better documented their arguments supporting it |
| 12:18.34 | Grum | any change is by default experimental |
| 12:18.39 | mitch0 | grum: stable release, where only bugfixes go in |
| 12:18.46 | Arrowmaster | if its cvs/svn its simple |
| 12:18.53 | Arrowmaster | never branch, its not worth it |
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| 12:19.00 | evl | Grum: when a featureset has been implemented and tested you branch it off as STABLE and continue working on cutting edge in the trunk |
| 12:19.06 | Grum | mitch0: its a world of difference if you have to support multiple versions yes or no |
| 12:19.10 | evl | that's the whole point of SVN |
| 12:19.14 | Grum | no |
| 12:19.15 | mitch0 | evl: hear hear! |
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| 12:19.22 | Grum | svn just does version control |
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| 12:19.31 | Grum | its not the point or a rule to have trunk unstable |
| 12:19.45 | mitch0 | it's a consequence |
| 12:19.45 | evl | Is Save As... Copy of File 56789.lua any form of control? |
| 12:19.53 | Grum | mitch0: i've never had a 'unstable trunk' |
| 12:20.03 | Grum | +n |
| 12:20.07 | mitch0 | grum: strange. most big projects have that |
| 12:20.28 | mitch0 | not unstable as in "it doesn't even compile" usually, but unstable nonetheless |
| 12:20.34 | evl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_%28software%29 |
| 12:21.02 | evl | "Often main developer work is done in the trunk and stable versions are branched, and occasional bug-fixes are merged from branches to the trunk." |
| 12:21.09 | Grum | mitch0: 20 people working on 1 piece of code classes as 'big enough' to prove it works |
| 12:21.17 | Grum | but as i said, it really depends |
| 12:21.27 | Grum | if you ahve to maintain old pieces of software as well, in CVS you would do that in branches |
| 12:21.34 | Grum | but, svn branches are not cvs branches |
| 12:21.43 | Grum | you *can* use them for other things |
| 12:21.45 | Arrowmaster | may as well be |
| 12:21.46 | mitch0 | grum: all I said is that _most_ other projects I know of use trunk for devel, and branches for stable... |
| 12:21.56 | mitch0 | I didn't say your team can't work as it is |
| 12:22.08 | Grum | mitch0: they have to support multiple versions then |
| 12:22.13 | Grum | else branches are useless imho |
| 12:22.17 | mitch0 | grum: sure you can. and you should. for fixing bugs on a stable branch |
| 12:22.21 | Arrowmaster | less work fighting with svn if you use trunk as devel |
| 12:22.30 | evl | svn sucks for big projects |
| 12:22.36 | Grum | with us *any* change, how little it is to the code means a branch |
| 12:22.38 | Arrowmaster | not it just plain sucks |
| 12:22.46 | mitch0 | grum: you should (in theory) always support at least 2 versions: 1) beta. 2) latest stable |
| 12:22.57 | evl | mitch0: if you have an user base you should |
| 12:23.12 | Grum | mitch0: yeah, but for that matter you will have multiple betas, one beta for each 'new feature' you have |
| 12:23.15 | mitch0 | grum: so you got to have some fun merging your stuff in... |
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| 12:23.20 | evl | mitch0: it's not a *requirement* but it's nice to avoid 32456786756 forum posts about problems you are aware of exist |
| 12:23.26 | Grum | mitch0: not using svn for that reason |
| 12:23.41 | Grum | atm svk but i'm not 100% happy with that either because i come from bitkeeper, bitkeeper makes that stuff trivial |
| 12:24.05 | mitch0 | grum: for those kind of betas I only use branches for the very first experimental steps when I'm fairly sure I might have to throw away the whole thing if it turns out to be teh xus |
| 12:24.13 | Grum | evl: yeah, that is also why any addon i code for, i just code in branches |
| 12:24.38 | Grum | mitch0: but why not finalize em to nearly finished and then move em to trunk |
| 12:24.41 | cncfanatics | I'm not into branches coding a lot |
| 12:24.51 | mitch0 | grum: the main line of "this is definitily going in" changes should happen on trunk so that other devs can keep up with your changes and won't have to handle a big-ass merge at the en |
| 12:24.53 | mitch0 | end even |
| 12:24.55 | Arrowmaster | i usually try to keep stuff to branches on wowace just so that nobody finds and it and thinks the api wont change |
| 12:24.57 | Grum | not to get those things like: 'omg it works kek .. but you cant configure it without editing .. funsies huh?' |
| 12:25.21 | Grum | mitch0: if you work with a decent VCS you can just merge another branch in yours |
| 12:25.27 | cncfanatics | grrr, whats wrong with this ? |
| 12:25.49 | mitch0 | grum: and another and another and another... |
| 12:25.53 | Grum | so? |
| 12:25.58 | Grum | its 1 command per merge :) |
| 12:26.00 | mitch0 | grum: isn't it just simpler to work on trunk? :) |
| 12:26.03 | Grum | no? |
| 12:26.11 | Arrowmaster | not depending on your vcs |
| 12:26.12 | Grum | because on trunk you dont cherry pick the changes you want |
| 12:26.24 | mitch0 | unless the N devs happen to touch the same are of code and you have to manually merge |
| 12:26.30 | Grum | Arrowmaster: it is depending on your VCS, svn cant do it, bitkeeper can |
| 12:26.32 | Arrowmaster | with a good vcs like bitkeeper or git merging is super easy |
| 12:26.49 | Grum | mitch0: then you have fail code or fail devs or fail projects or fail boundaries |
| 12:26.56 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:27.02 | Grum | bk/git ftw |
| 12:27.03 | mitch0 | grum: you have _real life_ |
| 12:27.17 | Grum | mitch0: no seriously |
| 12:27.19 | Arrowmaster | linux kernal does an average of 4 merges to the master branch a day i think |
| 12:27.20 | mitch0 | grum: but anyway, I give up on this debate :) |
| 12:27.22 | Grum | why do you want to edit the same line? |
| 12:27.30 | Grum | either your project overlaps or the code does |
| 12:27.33 | Grum | both are not good |
| 12:27.45 | Arrowmaster | because its so easy to do it with a good vcs |
| 12:27.46 | Grum | and no matter what method you use it will give problems |
| 12:27.53 | mitch0 | grum: you don't usually _want_ to do that. but sometimes it just happens anyway |
| 12:27.55 | Grum | Arrowmaster: you still get conflicts with bk and git |
| 12:28.00 | Grum | mitch0: how does it happen? |
| 12:28.12 | Grum | you dont just 'touch' some code you dont need |
| 12:28.19 | mitch0 | oh come on |
| 12:28.25 | Grum | ? |
| 12:28.28 | Grum | really :D |
| 12:28.29 | Arrowmaster | Grum: you almost always get conflicts and a headache with svn though |
| 12:28.35 | Grum | you just go intoa a random file and move shit around for no reasons? :D |
| 12:28.45 | Arrowmaster | i do that |
| 12:28.46 | Grum | yeah, svn is horrid on conflicts |
| 12:29.05 | Arrowmaster | though its for whitespace consistances and stuff |
| 12:29.07 | Grum | but conflicts you will always have because you are merging code |
| 12:29.10 | mitch0 | anyway, _especially keeping in mind the svn constraint we have now_, it would be a lot nicer to have stable branches / release tags and dev trunk |
| 12:29.13 | Grum | and it will never know which one you wanted |
| 12:29.23 | Grum | not really mitch0 |
| 12:29.39 | Grum | because in practice hardly any addon gets edited by multiple people |
| 12:29.41 | Arrowmaster | stable is tags |
| 12:29.46 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:29.47 | Grum | no |
| 12:29.53 | Grum | a tag is a branch |
| 12:29.56 | Arrowmaster | if you tag often |
| 12:30.00 | mitch0 | arrow: no, tags are releases |
| 12:30.00 | Grum | CVS != SVK |
| 12:30.09 | Grum | no tags are changeset-markers |
| 12:30.10 | Grum | nothing else |
| 12:30.16 | Grum | names for a revision |
| 12:30.22 | Zhinjio | I love this discussion. |
| 12:30.27 | Zhinjio | no matter how many times I hear it. |
| 12:30.30 | mitch0 | I quit this discussion ;) |
| 12:30.33 | clad|office | lol |
| 12:30.57 | Ellipsis | you guys were still talking? I just crossed my eyes until the text blurred and admired the pretty pattern of alternating long and short lines... |
| 12:30.58 | Grum | i just love how people get 'habits' in the heads as 'set in stone'-rules |
| 12:31.13 | clad|office | Ellipsis: hahahahahahahahah |
| 12:31.19 | Zhinjio | it has the etymological equivalent of "No, its a hammer." ... "No, you're wrong, It's a hammer"... "I disagree, its a hammer". |
| 12:31.24 | Grum | Ellipsis: omg you just linewrapped there! |
| 12:31.25 | clad|office | Ellipsis: i was just noting how neat the right edge of the conversation pattern was :P |
| 12:31.29 | mitch0 | (just one last time: if some standard tagging/branching would be introduce that the file-builders would understand and use, I'd be happy to use it. if one doesn't use it, the filebuilders could just grab trunk) |
| 12:31.44 | Ellipsis | Grum: not on my screen, you fail |
| 12:31.54 | Grum | you has big screen then! |
| 12:32.01 | Ellipsis | clad|office: did you see the tank too? |
| 12:32.01 | Grum | or tiny fonts |
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| 12:32.07 | evl | What's the closest I can get to OnEnable in terms of events, PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 12:32.11 | Ellipsis | it's kinda like looking for animals in cloud patterns... |
| 12:32.22 | Grum | wasnt it ADDONS_LOADED orso? |
| 12:32.27 | Grum | the final event |
| 12:32.29 | clad|office | no |
| 12:32.32 | clad|office | that's for your addon, |
| 12:32.34 | clad|office | which would be OnInitialize |
| 12:32.41 | Arrowmaster | evl: yeah since OnEnable is usually called on PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 12:32.43 | mitch0 | evl: I found it best to use OnUpdate() than disable it |
| 12:32.56 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:32.56 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: do you know if fizzle can be setup to auto-repair? Or do you have something else do that for you? |
| 12:33.05 | Grum | but you need to make a frame for that mitch0, garbage! =D |
| 12:33.05 | Zhinjio | thats the only I miss from durabiloity fu |
| 12:33.08 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: thats only because of your shitty situation with the load order |
| 12:33.19 | mitch0 | grum: I already had a frame :P |
| 12:33.25 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: fizzle doesn't do that stuff, I use my own little code snippet for that |
| 12:33.27 | Grum | ah! re-a-use! ;D |
| 12:33.32 | evl | Arrowmaster: so if I want a very small addon that doesn't need all the whistles of Ace3 I can register PLAYER_LOGIN on a frame and have the same effect as if I put code into OnEnable? |
| 12:34.04 | [Ammo] | evl: yeah |
| 12:34.06 | mitch0 | arrow: no, it was because some data wasn't initialized until the first OnUpdate :) |
| 12:34.16 | mitch0 | (it was at the time I got the ranges from tooltip data) |
| 12:34.19 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: thats what i was talking about |
| 12:34.23 | [Ammo] | evl: but if you want to make it LoD as well then fire your PLAYER_LOGIN handler from ADDON_LOADED as well :) |
| 12:34.47 | evl | aight, thanks :) |
| 12:34.48 | [Ammo] | evl: or just read the 10 lines in the event handler of AceAddon-3.0 :p |
| 12:35.05 | Arrowmaster | but only after IsLoggedIn() (or whatever that damn func is) is true |
| 12:35.20 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: yeah, that's why I referenced to the aceaddon-3.0 event handler |
| 12:35.26 | [Ammo] | which is exactly what evl wants |
| 12:35.37 | [Ammo] | (apart from the fact that that one handles multiple addons but shrug |
| 12:36.37 | sag_ich_nicht | LMAO @ xkcd |
| 12:36.39 | Arrowmaster | hmm i think ive been up for around 40 hours, maybe i should goto sleep |
| 12:36.53 | Shirik | yes, xkcd wins today |
| 12:36.55 | Arrowmaster | after i check xkcd |
| 12:37.17 | mitch0 | xkcd? |
| 12:37.22 | mitch0 | (I know, I fail, etc) |
| 12:37.23 | syeren | Where is Dodge when you need him!?!? |
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| 12:37.27 | ncd|Aileen | http://xkcd.com/399/ ! |
| 12:37.48 | Shirik | (08:36:51) (mitch0) xkcd? <-- !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:38.00 | Shirik | sadly you probably wont understand todays |
| 12:38.28 | mitch0 | shirik: I miss the context (xkcd), but I do have a masters in CS :P |
| 12:38.36 | Shirik | then you would love xkcd |
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| 12:38.53 | CIA-9 | 03shamino * r67686 10EnchantingSell/ (EnchantingSell-enUS.lua EnchantingSell.toc): |
| 12:38.53 | CIA-9 | EnchantingSell: |
| 12:38.53 | CIA-9 | - toc updated to 20400 |
| 12:38.53 | CIA-9 | - added new 2.4 enchants (Steelweave, Defense, Void Shatter) |
| 12:38.55 | elusif | is there a way to detect a rogue's energy level? |
| 12:39.14 | elusif | like 'if below action, if not action' |
| 12:39.16 | Shirik | mitch0: here http://xkcd.com/379/ |
| 12:39.18 | mitch0 | if he stabs you fast repeatedly, he's high on energy |
| 12:39.21 | elusif | :) |
| 12:39.26 | nevcairiel | elusif: in macros? no |
| 12:39.44 | vithos | lol wtf |
| 12:39.48 | vithos | i joined an AV that has 42 alliance |
| 12:39.53 | elusif | i have |
| 12:39.58 | vithos | it broke grid too |
| 12:39.59 | elusif | #show Eviscerate/Castsequence reset=target Thistle Tea, Eviscerate, |
| 12:40.11 | elusif | but i'd like it to just use the tea if i'm below 35 :( |
| 12:40.19 | elusif | macros are cool! |
| 12:40.23 | elusif | i can't wait to learn lua |
| 12:40.32 | nevcairiel | you cant do smart code like that anymore |
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| 12:40.38 | elusif | kk |
| 12:40.56 | Grum | i love xkcd, i was wondering what would be the next part of that :D |
| 12:40.57 | elusif | i'm not sure i wanna use a thistle tea everytime i use evis :) |
| 12:41.17 | cncfanatics | I don't ever use evisc |
| 12:41.21 | elusif | could i make it try evis alone - and if it fails them |
| 12:41.25 | elusif | maybe something like |
| 12:41.29 | elusif | #show Eviscerate |
| 12:41.32 | CIA-9 | 03darkwings * r67687 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: |
| 12:41.32 | CIA-9 | BigWigs: |
| 12:41.32 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.39 | elusif | ./cast evis |
| 12:41.42 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.43 | nevcairiel | that wont work either :P |
| 12:41.45 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.50 | elusif | ya |
| 12:41.52 | cncfanatics | the tea is on cd if evisc succeeded |
| 12:41.56 | cncfanatics | so it should work |
| 12:42.06 | elusif | huh? |
| 12:42.07 | nevcairiel | but thats not what he wants |
| 12:42.13 | nevcairiel | he wants tea when evisc fails |
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| 12:42.17 | elusif | i want it to only use tea when evis fails |
| 12:42.19 | nevcairiel | and you cannot do that |
| 12:42.22 | elusif | :( |
| 12:42.23 | elusif | lol fu! |
| 12:42.24 | elusif | :P |
| 12:42.32 | elusif | thanks guys |
| 12:42.33 | cncfanatics | if evisc succeeded the global cd is on the tea so it doesn't cast |
| 12:42.41 | cncfanatics | if evisc fails the global cd is not on tea so it casts |
| 12:42.43 | Ellipsis | um. that macro would do tea when evisc fails |
| 12:42.50 | nevcairiel | if evisc fails, the macro stops at there |
| 12:42.54 | elusif | no |
| 12:42.57 | cncfanatics | doesn't nev |
| 12:42.58 | mitch0 | yes |
| 12:43.00 | Ellipsis | no it doesn't |
| 12:43.00 | elusif | it tries the next thing in line? |
| 12:43.03 | Shirik | For the record, ~q -> ~p does not imply q -> p |
| 12:43.07 | elusif | i'l ltell you in 60 seconds :) |
| 12:43.09 | Ellipsis | it falls through to the next thing in the macro |
| 12:43.17 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: only for spells that dont cause gcd |
| 12:43.20 | Ellipsis | it's only /castsequence that sticks |
| 12:43.34 | mitch0 | nev is right |
| 12:43.35 | Ellipsis | no nevcairiel, it falls through, but only things that don't cause gcd can be chained |
| 12:43.37 | mitch0 | listen to him |
| 12:43.47 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: go test it, then apologize :P |
| 12:43.47 | Ellipsis | if you wanted evisc AND tea in one button press, it wouldn't work |
| 12:43.48 | Shirik | So saying the tea will not be used when eviscerate succeeds does not force the tea will be used when eviscerate fails |
| 12:43.53 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt fall through |
| 12:44.00 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: I use a similar thing in one of my macros |
| 12:44.07 | mitch0 | actually, ellipsis might be right, too :) |
| 12:44.09 | mitch0 | I don't remember |
| 12:44.11 | Kurax | The Loot Below! |
| 12:44.13 | Ellipsis | I have /cast Fel armor /cast Demon Skin |
| 12:44.19 | Ellipsis | so that my noob chars can use the same armor macro |
| 12:44.22 | mitch0 | maybe IceBlock + ColdSnap works |
| 12:44.32 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: thats different, because you dont have the spell |
| 12:44.35 | Ellipsis | if fel armor succeeds, demon skin doesn't get cast (though an error sound still plays) |
| 12:44.36 | nevcairiel | not because it fails |
| 12:44.51 | Shirik | also, thistle tea, does it have a cooldown? (I imagine so) What is it linked to? |
| 12:44.54 | Shirik | just curious |
| 12:44.58 | cncfanatics | pot cd |
| 12:45.00 | nevcairiel | potions i bet |
| 12:45.01 | Shirik | ow... |
| 12:45.02 | cncfanatics | and ofc global cd of abilities |
| 12:45.05 | Shirik | thats kinda painful |
| 12:45.16 | nevcairiel | haste potion > thistle tea :P |
| 12:45.18 | Shirik | dont rogues ever use health pots? |
| 12:45.24 | nevcairiel | not in raids |
| 12:45.26 | Shirik | or do they just expect their healer to do the work |
| 12:45.32 | elusif | ya that worked |
| 12:45.55 | elusif | thistle tea is 5 min cd |
| 12:45.59 | elusif | it restores full energy |
| 12:46.03 | Julith | Hmm, at best I whould like to rewrite the whole GridManaBars and adapt it more to the concept of Grids "register status to frame", but this whould change the configuring of the addon alot. Don't know whats more important, continuity of the addon or consistence with the concept of grid. What whould you say? |
| 12:46.06 | elusif | ty for the help! i love making macros! |
| 12:46.12 | Arrowmaster | only 40 energy |
| 12:46.13 | cncfanatics | Shirik: I use haste potions |
| 12:46.17 | cncfanatics | I don't need hp pots :S |
| 12:46.23 | cncfanatics | haste pots are like 1000 times better |
| 12:46.30 | Shirik | Im a priest. I use mana pots. A lot. And thats it. |
| 12:46.36 | cncfanatics | I use haste pots |
| 12:46.39 | Arrowmaster | im a warlock........ |
| 12:46.45 | Arrowmaster | i use nothing...... |
| 12:46.57 | nevcairiel | you should use mana pots |
| 12:46.58 | Shirik | Arrowmaster life taps to 100 hp and then gets mad when he doesnt get a heal before he dies |
| 12:47.05 | cncfanatics | to each his own chugging |
| 12:47.12 | cncfanatics | locks should use destro ptos tbh |
| 12:47.16 | Arrowmaster | lol i usually have more lifeblooms on me than i can lifetap |
| 12:47.16 | nevcairiel | no |
| 12:47.22 | Ellipsis | life tap is more efficient than pots, I only pot when healers are struggling |
| 12:47.47 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: So obviously the warlock life tap change should have been left in |
| 12:47.53 | Arrowmaster | hell no |
| 12:47.54 | Shirik | copying this convo to suggestions forums, thanks :D |
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| 12:47.56 | nevcairiel | locks should use mana pots to boost their dmg in raids, no gcd like lifetap |
| 12:47.56 | CIA-9 | 03darkwings * r67688 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: |
| 12:47.56 | CIA-9 | BigWigs: |
| 12:47.56 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.57 | Ellipsis | stabs Shirik |
| 12:48.03 | nevcairiel | better then destruction pots for them |
| 12:48.11 | cncfanatics | I doubt it |
| 12:48.11 | Arrowmaster | because i dont have time to lifetap as much as i could |
| 12:48.20 | cncfanatics | you can lifetap when you need to move |
| 12:48.20 | Shirik | I know :P |
| 12:48.23 | cncfanatics | so no dps time lost either way |
| 12:48.30 | Shirik | Hey, I rocked DPS last sunday on Archimonde! |
| 12:48.32 | nevcairiel | you dont move on brutallus or whatever :P |
| 12:48.32 | Shirik | 500 DPS! |
| 12:48.36 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: not if you're aff |
| 12:48.37 | Shirik | I was amazed |
| 12:48.45 | nevcairiel | no one in t6 is aff o.O |
| 12:48.47 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:48.52 | Arrowmaster | i am =( |
| 12:48.58 | Ellipsis | tell me where we said we were only talking about t6 content? |
| 12:48.59 | cncfanatics | I'm talking about raiding, L :p |
| 12:49.07 | Ellipsis | so am I |
| 12:49.13 | nevcairiel | we talk about real raiding |
| 12:49.14 | sica | we only have destro-locks 0/21/40 in our raid |
| 12:49.17 | cncfanatics | serious raiding then, pugs can do TK & SSC |
| 12:49.17 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:49.20 | Ellipsis | locks don't spec destro as soon as they finish kara |
| 12:49.32 | Arrowmaster | killed illidan on monday, i think that counts |
| 12:49.41 | nevcairiel | we have one fire destro and 2 shadow destros |
| 12:49.45 | nevcairiel | er *3 |
| 12:50.06 | Arrowmaster | 2 shadow destros and 1 affliction |
| 12:50.21 | cncfanatics | why an affli ? |
| 12:50.26 | Ellipsis | my guild has 1 shadow destro |
| 12:50.30 | Ellipsis | and nothing else -.- |
| 12:50.30 | Arrowmaster | well my gear did suck for the longest time |
| 12:50.40 | Arrowmaster | and i had no crit at all |
| 12:51.09 | Arrowmaster | im up to 15% character sheet crit now though unbuffed |
| 12:51.22 | nevcairiel | thats still not much, no? |
| 12:51.29 | Arrowmaster | no not much |
| 12:51.44 | Arrowmaster | but its 5% more than i had |
| 12:51.51 | kenlyric | hmmm, I have 24%crit unbuffed at level 58 |
| 12:52.00 | nevcairiel | our locks are around ~25% crit unbuffed character sheet |
| 12:52.04 | kenlyric | gogo talents! |
| 12:52.14 | erzy | I got 25% crit unbuffed as a paladin, oh w8 |
| 12:52.20 | Arrowmaster | 3% of that is from talents though nev |
| 12:52.25 | Arrowmaster | right? |
| 12:52.37 | kenlyric | is berserker stance a buff? ;) |
| 12:52.40 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 12:52.56 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 12:53.01 | sag_ich_nicht | erzy: 31.66% crit 2158 AP selfbuffed go back to the playyard |
| 12:53.13 | erzy | holy :/ |
| 12:53.18 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ |
| 12:53.19 | kenlyric | I enjoy getting 13% crit entirely naked. |
| 12:53.23 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: what talent? only thing i see is 5% crit on destruction spells, that dont count on char sheet |
| 12:53.31 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: backlash |
| 12:53.52 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: they count on the charactersheet if you hover over spellcrit it will show you your crit for each spellschool |
| 12:53.58 | erzy | I got 1147 (i think) armor penetration in retri gear |
| 12:54.03 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: its not a spell school |
| 12:54.09 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: destruction isn't a school |
| 12:54.09 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: destruction isnt a school |
| 12:54.11 | nevcairiel | its a talent tree :P |
| 12:54.14 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 12:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | the crit is on destruction spe |
| 12:54.21 | sag_ich_nicht | oh nvm |
| 12:54.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 12:54.24 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 12:54.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:54.29 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: FAIL! |
| 12:54.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i forgot about that |
| 12:54.35 | sag_ich_nicht | BEAT YOU TO IT |
| 12:54.39 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU FAIL AT FAILING ME |
| 12:54.41 | Tigerdyr | hmm.. did 2.4 introduce a check on playerinfo, say if the player is dead it returns NIL |
| 12:54.41 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: oh yeah i see it, my warlock has always been affliction (only kara level :P) so never checked the destruction tree in depth ;) |
| 12:54.42 | Ellipsis | I had pizza in my hand |
| 12:54.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Ellipsis |
| 12:54.43 | purl | Ellipsis, you Fail! |
| 12:54.45 | Ellipsis | go fail yourself |
| 12:54.55 | sag_ich_nicht | u wanna die |
| 12:55.12 | kenlyric | my sub-optimal ambush spec is already falling apart at level 24. |
| 12:55.23 | Ellipsis | Tigerdyr: what do you mean on playerinfo? |
| 12:55.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:55.39 | kenlyric | it's a fine old spec until ambush misses |
| 12:55.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i leveled my rogue to 70 ending up 0/0/61 and it worked fine, you just suck kenlyric |
| 12:55.52 | sag_ich_nicht | and no |
| 12:56.01 | sag_ich_nicht | that spec is not for pve and not for arena pvp |
| 12:56.09 | sag_ich_nicht | not even much for BGs |
| 12:56.15 | sag_ich_nicht | it's for me being a huge dick to people in open pvp |
| 12:56.17 | nevcairiel | that spec cant be really good for anything :P |
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| 12:56.28 | Ozguli` | deep in ass is ok for leveling |
| 12:56.31 | Ellipsis | not for pve, not for pvp....yep, sounds like sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:56.34 | Ozguli` | nods |
| 12:56.38 | sag_ich_nicht | it's good for being a dick to people in open pvp Ellipsis :P |
| 12:56.53 | Ellipsis | bad for everything but being a dick...yep, sounds like sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:57.08 | kenlyric | it's more for variety, since a combat rogue ends up very much like a warrior. |
| 12:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | you won't kill them, but DAMN they'll be pissed at you |
| 12:57.09 | Nandini | somehow i stopped reading after i saw "deep in ass" |
| 12:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 12:57.20 | Ellipsis | Nandini: there was something after that? |
| 12:57.33 | Nandini | i'll be back in 3 minutes and re-read |
| 12:57.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Nandini if you don't like anal then you're doing it wrong and missing out on a lot of pleasure :( |
| 12:57.54 | sag_ich_nicht | chatkill |
| 12:58.08 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: do you offer private lessons? |
| 12:58.11 | Arrowmaster | im going to bed |
| 12:58.23 | Arrowmaster | yes its 9am |
| 12:58.36 | nevcairiel | its time to wake up |
| 12:58.38 | nevcairiel | not sleep |
| 12:58.51 | Ellipsis | it's the middle of the day |
| 12:58.53 | Ellipsis | what are you talking about |
| 12:59.00 | Arrowmaster | but i think ive been up for 40 hours already |
| 12:59.09 | Tigerdyr | Ellipsis: 2 secs.. code is on a box behind a silly firewall atm |
| 12:59.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i'm afraid my competency in the area of private lessons is lack :P |
| 12:59.21 | sag_ich_nicht | *lacking |
| 12:59.25 | Arrowmaster | hmm actually ill probably end up sleeping way too late |
| 12:59.28 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I'll be the judge of that |
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| 13:02.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: also shouldn't you be asking ckknight for those lessons and not me? :P |
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| 13:03.50 | Ellipsis | um...I guess |
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| 13:05.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean i don't have a problem with that but i'd guess his relative distance to you is quite a bit smaller than mine as would be his competency :P |
| 13:05.32 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
| 13:06.08 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 13:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/3/24/ <--this is how i make groups for instances |
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| 13:28.26 | Olison | ~seen tuller |
| 13:28.28 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 14h 15m 7s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: that should work'. |
| 13:29.01 | Olison | i wonder if it is possible to index the items you have in your mailbox, like in mails from the AH |
| 13:29.20 | cncfanatics | can anyone figure why this doesn't work ? http://www.pastebin.ca/967418 |
| 13:29.22 | elusif | shouldn't - /cast kick /cast gouge OR /castsequence reset=20 kick, gouge, gouge, gouge, gouge, gouge, gouge OR /cast kick /stop attack /cast gouge - this use kick, and when kick is dodged or on it's 20 second cooldown use gouge? |
| 13:29.41 | cncfanatics | no |
| 13:29.45 | cncfanatics | both have a gcd |
| 13:29.51 | cncfanatics | so if kick is dodged it won't cast gouge |
| 13:30.00 | elusif | 10 sec cooldown |
| 13:30.05 | elusif | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 13:30.12 | elusif | lol |
| 13:30.13 | elusif | ty :D |
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| 13:32.14 | ben_ | What addon does someone have to use to make the magical Query Talent Spec button work? |
| 13:32.31 | cncfanatics | ben_ rockcom, which you use if you have the magical query talent button |
| 13:32.41 | cncfanatics | the other person has to use rockcomm to for it to work though |
| 13:32.46 | ben_ | That is what I meant. |
| 13:33.01 | ben_ | I do not recall installing rockcomm so I assume it magically comes with some other addons. |
| 13:33.07 | ben_ | Which might that be? |
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| 13:34.43 | cncfanatics | parrot, cowtip, cartographer |
| 13:34.48 | cncfanatics | all of ckk's addons basicly |
| 13:35.22 | ben_ | Parrot actually works again? :D |
| 13:36.04 | nevcairiel | i doubt it |
| 13:36.10 | Ellipsis | no |
| 13:36.14 | Ellipsis | parrot still hasn't been updated for 2.4 |
| 13:37.06 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics YOU FORGOT FUBAR |
| 13:38.01 | Stanzilla | and chinchilla |
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| 13:40.37 | nevcairiel | fubar uses rockcomm? |
| 13:40.39 | nevcairiel | if so, i laught |
| 13:40.40 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:41.19 | Nandini | i doubt chinchilla would have any use for rockcomm either |
| 13:41.20 | nevcairiel | tbh, none of the addons he wrote should need any comms |
| 13:41.28 | nevcairiel | unless i miss one |
| 13:41.31 | [Ammo] | carto |
| 13:41.33 | [Ammo] | guildpos |
| 13:41.34 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 13:41.36 | nevcairiel | carto |
| 13:41.43 | Ellipsis | pitbull uses comms to send layouts |
| 13:42.00 | [Ammo] | but to get a better viral effect it's better to include comm in more stuff |
| 13:42.13 | nevcairiel | yeah you get more talent replies then *rolleyes* |
| 13:42.47 | Ellipsis | nothing even uses that talent query except talented |
| 13:42.51 | Ellipsis | so I don't know why you guys care |
| 13:43.07 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 13:43.08 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 13:43.15 | Ellipsis | dogtag-3.0 uses inspection only |
| 13:43.20 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 13:43.22 | sag_ich_nicht | why. |
| 13:43.23 | sag_ich_nicht | change that. |
| 13:43.26 | sag_ich_nicht | : |
| 13:43.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *D: |
| 13:43.50 | Ellipsis | why? |
| 13:44.03 | Ellipsis | it's libstub, including support for a rock-only feature wouldn't be in the framework-agnostic spirit |
| 13:44.58 | nevcairiel | wonders where the attitude change came from |
| 13:45.09 | Wobin | out from left field |
| 13:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so use optdep in the way it's ACTUALLY intended to be used and not as a clever hack for addon loading order Ellipsis |
| 13:45.13 | Wobin | points |
| 13:45.16 | Ellipsis | whose, nevcairiel? |
| 13:45.17 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r67689 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua embeds.xml libs/): FuBar_GroupFu: Remove Tablet-2.0. |
| 13:45.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and optdep rockcomm, if it's there, use it, if it's not, leave it out |
| 13:45.40 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: whoever decided that for dt-3.0, before it was all "optional support that, force them on that" :P |
| 13:45.56 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: actually, that's what dogtag-2.0 did, but since talents can now be inspected it was decided that even that was no longer worthwhile |
| 13:46.28 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r67690 10FuBar_PTReagentFu/ (FuBar_PTReagentFu.toc PTReagentFu.lua embeds.xml libs/): FuBar_PTReagentFu: Remove Tablet-2.0. |
| 13:46.30 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 13:46.41 | Ellipsis | take it up with ck if you want |
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| 13:46.48 | Amadeo | wowwww ace! |
| 13:46.54 | Ellipsis | I'm not going against his conscious decision to remove the feature |
| 13:47.09 | Nandini | he was conscious at some point? |
| 13:47.11 | Amadeo | so knock him out, then he's unconscious |
| 13:47.16 | nevcairiel | lol Nandini |
| 13:47.19 | Ellipsis | at some point |
| 13:47.29 | Nandini | next thing i know, you'll be saying he's sentient too! |
| 13:47.29 | Ellipsis | I try to keep him out though, makes it easier to sneak my fixes into his addons |
| 13:47.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Amadeo agree'd |
| 13:47.50 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: did you kill Brut yet? |
| 13:47.55 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: yeah |
| 13:47.59 | Wobin | pft |
| 13:48.00 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: two tanks? |
| 13:48.02 | Wobin | like ck sleeps |
| 13:48.03 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:48.07 | nevcairiel | a warr and a druid |
| 13:48.07 | Wobin | sif |
| 13:48.09 | Amadeo | Say, "Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?" |
| 13:48.13 | Pkekyo| | holy hell...15 minutes of high-pace jogging is not for a bloody nerd to do! |
| 13:48.16 | Nandini | and 23 more of your closest friends? heheh |
| 13:48.22 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:48.26 | nevcairiel | that yell is awesome |
| 13:48.29 | Kalroth | I'm trying to figure out what's cool about 3 tanks, a stomped tank will never be tanking or? |
| 13:48.36 | nevcairiel | he will |
| 13:48.39 | Wobin | hi2u shattered4thwall =P |
| 13:48.43 | nevcairiel | you cant taunt the stomp away |
| 13:48.50 | nevcairiel | oh well not with 2 tanks anyway |
| 13:48.53 | nevcairiel | maybe works with 3 |
| 13:49.02 | sag_ich_nicht | have you BEEN at brutalus lately? |
| 13:49.02 | nevcairiel | but thats just soo complicated |
| 13:49.02 | sag_ich_nicht | they changed him in 2.4.1 |
| 13:49.06 | Kalroth | Yeah, since tanks has to reposition etc. |
| 13:49.17 | Kalroth | Yup, 180 deg cone with unlimited reach |
| 13:49.29 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: he's already passed out with his hand in my lap atm |
| 13:49.45 | nevcairiel | oh they changed that? |
| 13:49.47 | nevcairiel | good to know |
| 13:49.54 | nevcairiel | will make it easier to position |
| 13:50.11 | Kalroth | Yeah, basically burn targets needs to go hang near the melee group now |
| 13:50.19 | Kalroth | instead of just outranging it |
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| 13:50.29 | nevcairiel | we didnt out range |
| 13:50.35 | Kalroth | oh? |
| 13:50.39 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Then you don't have to ask, just hold it up! |
| 13:50.48 | nevcairiel | we used the spot between the two groups that never got hit by meteor |
| 13:50.54 | Kalroth | Ah okay |
| 13:50.55 | nevcairiel | but thats a nono now |
| 13:50.59 | Kalroth | yup |
| 13:51.07 | nevcairiel | unless they move on taunt |
| 13:51.18 | nevcairiel | but its probably easier to move the burns to the melees |
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| 13:51.36 | Kalroth | Renew posted this on EJ: http://insomnia.13adkarma.net/images/raids/BrutDiagram.jpg |
| 13:51.58 | Amadeo | I thought it was going to be a picture of champagne |
| 13:52.16 | Wobin | mikma has a good site with champagne =P |
| 13:52.18 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: that doesnt look 180°ish :P |
| 13:52.18 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: sneak-insert old-school dogtags please, my tooltip is dead now :< |
| 13:52.29 | Cleanse | I didnt quite add in the new cone |
| 13:52.33 | mikma | Wobin: omnomnomnom shampagne |
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| 13:52.37 | Cleanse | because im not sure how it works yet |
| 13:52.39 | Kalroth | oh, hi Cleanse :P |
| 13:52.40 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: TipTac always works! Muhahah |
| 13:52.42 | Cleanse | hi |
| 13:52.47 | Cleanse | dunno why my nick is diff here |
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| 13:53.02 | Kalroth | To confuse the enemy |
| 13:53.02 | Cleanse | but yea, basically the safest spot we could find for burned people was behind the boss with the melee |
| 13:53.29 | Cleanse | we tried 40 yards and it seemed 1 illogical and 2 to be too far away from healers |
| 13:53.39 | Cleanse | running 40 yards out people were still getting slashed |
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| 13:53.48 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: meh |
| 13:53.49 | Cleanse | and running that far out is a dps/hps loss |
| 13:53.56 | Kalroth | Yeah, you don't want "burners" too far away from the healers during the last couple of ticks |
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| 13:54.35 | Kalroth | We haven't killed him yet, we did consider a 3 tank strat though, but it just seems like a lot of hassle |
| 13:54.42 | Kalroth | For almost no benefits |
| 13:54.46 | Wyanna | Anyone know where I can find some documentation on the new options UI? I just wrote my first mod and want to put a GUI on it (all slash commands atm) |
| 13:54.50 | Kalroth | Considering we'd lose one dps |
| 13:55.33 | Cleanse | maybe 3/7 will work for you |
| 13:55.38 | Julith | grum: got my message? |
| 13:55.49 | Cleanse | but to us, it seems like all it would do would cause melee to get parries |
| 13:55.58 | Cleanse | not sure how 3 tank strats are setup tbh :P |
| 13:56.05 | Kalroth | Cleanse: We're dumb, less targets seems easier ;) |
| 13:56.08 | Cleanse | maybe I am not thinking outside the box |
| 13:56.25 | Cleanse | yea like I said in that post |
| 13:56.38 | nevcairiel | we did a classic 2/8/15 setup for our kill |
| 13:56.38 | Kalroth | Well you've killed him twice now, so obviously you're doing something right |
| 13:56.41 | Cleanse | having the shaman chain healing off tanks during stomp is pretty much the key to healing |
| 13:56.49 | Cleanse | you load alot of healers on the tank so they shouldnt die |
| 13:58.08 | Kalroth | We've gone with dual prot warriors so far, it's mainly because of the extra "outs" they got though |
| 13:58.20 | Cleanse | yea we did that week one |
| 13:58.23 | Cleanse | it works fine |
| 13:58.26 | nevcairiel | outs? =P |
| 13:58.28 | Cleanse | feral druid gave us a dps boost |
| 13:58.34 | Kalroth | last stand, shield wall, etc. |
| 13:58.37 | Cleanse | main reason for the switch |
| 13:58.49 | nevcairiel | our feral druid feels so much easier to heal during stomp then the warr |
| 13:58.50 | Cleanse | a good tank is a good tank |
| 13:58.51 | nevcairiel | dont ask me why |
| 13:58.57 | Cleanse | because they are armor capped |
| 13:58.58 | Cleanse | :P |
| 13:59.07 | Cleanse | I think it's like 3k less dmg |
| 13:59.11 | Cleanse | (not positive) |
| 13:59.13 | nevcairiel | yeah but you might think a 50% armor decrease might hit the druid even more |
| 13:59.18 | Kalroth | no |
| 13:59.25 | Kalroth | because it's 50% of the uncapped armor |
| 13:59.29 | Kalroth | (I believe) |
| 13:59.55 | Kalroth | So if the druid sits at 80% armor mitigation, he only goes down to 40% mitigation |
| 14:00.08 | quiescens | half armour is not half mitigation |
| 14:00.12 | Kalroth | even if the mitigation cap is 75% |
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| 14:00.46 | ben_ | I think the math works even more in your favour |
| 14:00.52 | nevcairiel | thats probably the reason quiescens; going down from 40k armor to 20k is not as bad as going from 20k to 10k |
| 14:01.00 | Kalroth | quiescens: No of course not, it was just a simple example :) |
| 14:01.29 | Ellipsis | argh, they fixed the crystal powder turnin to not give xp anymore :< |
| 14:01.32 | Kalroth | I'm just saying that a druid that's 5% over armor cap will be reduced much less than a warrior that's 10% below the cap |
| 14:01.59 | Kalroth | So a druid should feel easier to heal |
| 14:02.08 | nevcairiel | stupid dodge reduction |
| 14:02.24 | Kalroth | Well to be honest, Sunwell would have been too easy if it wasn't there |
| 14:02.31 | nevcairiel | true |
| 14:02.33 | nevcairiel | but still :D |
| 14:02.53 | sica | yeah, and I prefer a dodge reduction over mobs hitting harder |
| 14:02.57 | Kalroth | 20% less dodge and 5% less misses is a huge nerf to tanks, I'm pretty sure Brut will be silly easy without it |
| 14:03.10 | Kalroth | sica: Indeed, hits harder and more spikey |
| 14:03.18 | ben_ | If you are at 40k armor, and your armor gets halved to 20k, according to the formula from wowwiki you are still at 62.6% migitation. |
| 14:03.23 | nevcairiel | brut in avg still missed 45% of hos attacks |
| 14:03.27 | nevcairiel | in our kill |
| 14:03.36 | nevcairiel | 6% miss, 10 parry, and 28 dodge |
| 14:04.01 | Zhinjio | very lame. |
| 14:04.17 | Zhinjio | tried doing shartuul, and apparently, the new bongos kept my pet bar hidden and I caouldn't get it back |
| 14:04.19 | nevcairiel | parry and dodge are a bit off due to using one warr and one druid |
| 14:04.39 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: Yeah, parry seems a little on the low side |
| 14:04.43 | Kalroth | while dodge on the high side :P |
| 14:04.55 | nevcairiel | yeah druid dodges what the warr parrys :P |
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| 14:05.58 | charon | lua> local function r(x) return 11960/(x+11960) end; print r(20000)/r(40000) .. " " .. r(10000)/r(20000) |
| 14:05.58 | lua_bot | charon: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'r' |
| 14:05.59 | sica | how many t6 pieces does your druid wear? |
| 14:06.09 | charon | lua> local r = function(x) return 11960/(x+11960) end; print r(20000)/r(40000) .. " " .. r(10000)/r(20000) |
| 14:06.09 | lua_bot | charon: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'r' |
| 14:06.13 | charon | *sigh* |
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| 14:06.22 | Zergreth | hi there ;D |
| 14:06.24 | charon | lua> local r = function(x) return 11960/(x+11960) end; print(r(20000)/r(40000) .. " " .. r(10000)/r(20000)) |
| 14:06.24 | lua_bot | charon: 1.6257822277847 1.4553734061931 |
| 14:06.30 | charon | has to l2test |
| 14:06.33 | Zergreth | i have some questions |
| 14:06.34 | charon | anyway, that's the idea |
| 14:06.35 | nevcairiel | sica: 5 |
| 14:06.44 | Zergreth | example: you use omen2 |
| 14:06.48 | mikma | charon: coordination -stuff? |
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| 14:06.56 | Zergreth | if you want to see other peoples aggro, they have to have threatlib2.0, right? |
| 14:07.15 | nevcairiel | yes they do |
| 14:07.21 | mikma | Zergreth: in pvp you usually see it without libs ;D |
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| 14:07.28 | charon | mikma: no that was in answer to the question how much worse a 50% armor reduce is for a warrior than for a druid |
| 14:07.39 | sag_ich_nicht | w00t |
| 14:07.46 | mikma | charon: which number is which class? |
| 14:07.51 | Zergreth | didnt omen display the correct amount of aggro without people having threatlib before? |
| 14:07.53 | sag_ich_nicht | hey Funkeh` wake up wowhead had it's dataminer updated |
| 14:08.00 | Zergreth | like, omen1 or how you want to call it |
| 14:08.11 | charon | well the first one is the damage you get at 20k, relative to the damage you get a 40k. so a druid takes like 62.5% more damage from that reduction |
| 14:08.20 | charon | oh, i forgot the cap *sigh* |
| 14:08.44 | nevcairiel | Zergreth: no it never did that, always needed it :) |
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| 14:09.03 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, hm, weird |
| 14:09.08 | Zergreth | i thought you didnt need it |
| 14:09.17 | charon | lua> local r = function(x) return math.max(11960/(x+11960),0.25) end; print(r(20000)/r(40000) .. " " .. r(10000)/r(20000)) |
| 14:09.17 | lua_bot | charon: 1.4968710888611 1.4553734061931 |
| 14:09.19 | Zergreth | no other way to show the other's aggro? |
| 14:09.46 | Zergreth | probably not i guess |
| 14:09.59 | chuanhsing_ | howto use 2.4 new quest function: questLink = GetQuestLink(questLogId) ? I can't find any comment in wowwiki |
| 14:10.10 | charon | so that puts 40k->20k at 50% more damage, 20k->10k at 46% more |
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| 14:10.24 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel you and antiarc will probably like this dataminer upgrade at wowhead too if you didn't notice it yet :P |
| 14:10.25 | Zergreth | chuanhsing_, try checking the 2.4 changes, its somewhere there |
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| 14:10.40 | Zergreth | *2.4 api changes actually |
| 14:11.14 | dRiN | - [ is away ] [ Reason: Activate IdleAway: 300 min ] [ Time: 16:11:15 ] [ Pager: on ] [ Log: on ] |
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| 14:11.27 | chuanhsing_ | but when i pass any value to GetQuestLink(), it always return nil |
| 14:12.24 | Zergreth | should work with the quest index |
| 14:12.27 | Zergreth | does for me atleast |
| 14:12.40 | chuanhsing_ | okay, thanks |
| 14:12.48 | Wyanna | anyone have a link to documentation for the new 2.4 options dialog |
| 14:12.59 | Wyanna | i.e. implementing a mod for it |
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| 14:14.27 | kagaro | anyone have the wowhead client (the mod part only) |
| 14:14.28 | chuanhsing_ | GetQuestLink(questLogId), questLogId here means quest index in quest log frame, start at 1 |
| 14:14.48 | kagaro | im curious if they added in the code I sent them for fishign node detection |
| 14:14.58 | cncfanatics | kagaro: dl it ? |
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| 14:15.09 | kagaro | <-- on a mac cant run the .exe |
| 14:15.50 | chdst | Zergreth: Just for 'teh proof', http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~raw,r=37039/WowAce/trunk/Omen/Omen.toc. The commit message says "Omen: Initial commit." |
| 14:16.09 | chdst | You'll notice it's referencing the Threat lib. |
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| 14:16.25 | Zergreth | yea |
| 14:16.35 | Zergreth | alrighty, thanks for your help |
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| 14:16.43 | Zergreth | gotta go again, later ;D |
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| 14:17.47 | Nandini | heheh someone screwed up wowwiki royally |
| 14:18.02 | kagaro | still leftover from aprils fools day i think |
| 14:18.35 | Nandini | i think they're trying to revert the april fools stuff |
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| 14:20.16 | cncfanatics | wouldn't a simple revert do, its only the main page |
| 14:20.39 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: what did change that might be interesting? |
| 14:20.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: they added the spells of all the npcs to the npcs |
| 14:20.57 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 14:21.03 | nevcairiel | ah nice |
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| 14:21.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (ala thottbot, except non-shitty) |
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| 14:21.30 | Nandini | yup, it seems they're parsing combat logs to get mobids and spellids out of it, very handy |
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| 14:22.09 | cncfanatics | s |
| 14:22.18 | Nandini | since i don't think those are linked in any of the client dbc files, only in the wow server databases |
| 14:22.19 | cncfanatics | so they could also tell if a mob is immune to some things |
| 14:22.21 | cncfanatics | eg, immune to sap/sheep |
| 14:22.30 | cncfanatics | should add that too |
| 14:22.38 | Nandini | good idea, go suggest now! :) |
| 14:23.07 | cncfanatics | you suggest ? :o |
| 14:23.38 | Kalroth | http://www.osnews.com/images/comics/wtfm.jpg hahah |
| 14:23.45 | Nandini | actually, that might not be good, you would probably get bad data from clients |
| 14:23.55 | cncfanatics | why would you ? |
| 14:24.03 | Nandini | imagine i cyclone every mob i see and have my mage friend try and sheep it |
| 14:24.19 | cncfanatics | you can see when a mob is under the effect of banish and/or cyclone |
| 14:24.19 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't mattr |
| 14:24.22 | sag_ich_nicht | *matter |
| 14:24.36 | sag_ich_nicht | client corruption gets filtered out by masses telling otherwise |
| 14:24.54 | Nandini | the combat log doesn't tell you why it's immune though, and i'm pretty sure that's what they're using to link spellids to mobids |
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| 14:25.23 | cncfanatics | you can check for banish and cyclone when you get an immune to message |
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| 14:25.29 | cncfanatics | lua scripts can check for debuffs :p |
| 14:25.52 | Nandini | i doubt they scan for active auras on each mob |
| 14:26.08 | cncfanatics | not like its hard, or time consuming |
| 14:26.12 | Nandini | although the combat log might catch them casting some |
| 14:26.27 | cncfanatics | why do you insist on using the combatlog for buffs ? |
| 14:26.38 | cncfanatics | when you get the combatlog message: X is immune to Y |
| 14:26.44 | cncfanatics | you check if X has cyclone or banish |
| 14:26.46 | cncfanatics | job done |
| 14:27.16 | cncfanatics | anyway, bbl |
| 14:27.17 | Nandini | i'm not insisting on anything, i'm just saying the combat log may catch mobs buffing themselves and each other too |
| 14:27.46 | Nandini | everyone here is in such a combative mood today. |
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| 14:29.10 | CIA-9 | 03saroz * r67691 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: STOP..BREAKING..MODS! |
| 14:29.13 | Saroz | FUCKING TRANSLATORS |
| 14:30.56 | Nandini | kagaro: one thing that bothers me about wowhead and gameobjects that are resource nodes is that all nodes with the same name are treated with the same objectid |
| 14:30.56 | krka | what did they do? |
| 14:31.11 | CIA-9 | 03xionglingfeng * r67692 10WitchHunt/locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 14:31.11 | CIA-9 | WitchHunt: |
| 14:31.12 | CIA-9 | - chs updated. |
| 14:31.22 | krka | the translators, that is |
| 14:31.25 | Nandini | when in fact, there are a couple different kinds of copper veins, many different kinds of the same school of fish, etc. |
| 14:31.33 | Nandini | all with different loot tables |
| 14:31.50 | sag_ich_nicht | no there aren't |
| 14:31.53 | sag_ich_nicht | are you retarded? |
| 14:32.04 | sag_ich_nicht | all the copper veins have the same dropchances with the same loottable |
| 14:32.27 | sag_ich_nicht | some for schools of fish, but with fish schools the general loottable of where you're fishing at gets added |
| 14:32.40 | Nandini | every copper vein can drop blood shards? they have different object ids for copper veins in the barrens and copper veins in durotar, for example |
| 14:32.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Nandini 2 loottables there |
| 14:33.20 | Josh_Borke | (10:32:05 AM) sag_ich_nicht: all the copper veins have the same dropchances with the same loottable <--> all copper veins with the same loottable have teh same drop chances ;-) |
| 14:33.27 | krka | do all lootables have loottables? |
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| 14:33.47 | Nandini | there are lots of gameobjects with the same name but different object ids because they have different loot tables |
| 14:33.49 | sag_ich_nicht | 1 that is specific to the veins but with one extra entry "zone specific drop" which, when it comes up on the loot table goes into the second zone loottable and does an additional roll to decide what drops |
| 14:34.18 | Nandini | the loot table ids are different in the dbc files tho |
| 14:34.25 | sag_ich_nicht | sigh |
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| 14:34.28 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 14:34.34 | sag_ich_nicht | walks away |
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| 14:37.44 | erzy | My parrot doesn't show incoming/outgoing, any tips? |
| 14:37.54 | Nandini | erzy: use msbt or sct |
| 14:38.00 | ncd|Aileen | wait until there is a 2.4 version released |
| 14:38.26 | zapl | any eta for parrot2 btw? |
| 14:38.40 | Nandini | none has been announced |
| 14:38.47 | zapl | o noes |
| 14:39.31 | Nandini | zapl: would having an eta change what addons you use between now and then? |
| 14:39.45 | thul | hmm |
| 14:39.58 | zapl | still using broken parrot because i like it :) |
| 14:40.07 | EvilJohn- | i miss parrot :( |
| 14:40.20 | thul | i miss parrot too |
| 14:40.34 | Nandini | i had set up a filter to block lines with "parrot" in it, but i must not have saved it :/ |
| 14:40.35 | zapl | so parrot + ingame damage / heal is what i use atm |
| 14:41.14 | Zhinjio | cgod, some people have no clue how to report bugs |
| 14:42.16 | Nandini | Zhinjio: some bugs are not easy to reproduce, nor is it always possible to stop what you're doing immediately and document what happened |
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| 14:42.45 | thul | http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~andreslc/xen-gl/ |
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| 14:43.37 | dylanm | It appears someone has been making patched versions of some Parrot files to get it to work in the meantime. |
| 14:44.12 | dylanm | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8437.msg197742#msg197742 |
| 14:45.13 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r67693 10Postal/Locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 14:45.13 | CIA-9 | Postal: |
| 14:45.13 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update. |
| 14:45.19 | dylanm | So maybe try that, zapl/thul. |
| 14:45.46 | thul | danke |
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| 14:50.41 | JJSheets | Who maintains LibSharedMedia-3.0? |
| 14:51.09 | dylanm | Elkano? |
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| 14:53.58 | Julith | How can AceLocale detect that something is "likely misspelled"? |
| 14:54.10 | [Ammo] | it's awesome |
| 14:54.27 | dushkin | Hi. I was wondering about Tablet-2.0. I have a tooltip and all, but I was wondering whether it's possible for Tablet to start wrapping lines (or doing whatever) after the tooltip reaches a certain width. |
| 14:54.48 | Julith | or whats my real question: how is this error message caused? |
| 14:55.20 | Wyanna | anyone know of good documentation for implementing the new options dialog functionality in 2.4? |
| 14:55.23 | [Ammo] | it means a key in a language other than enUS doesn't exist in enUS julith |
| 14:55.32 | Elkano | dylanm? |
| 14:55.38 | Elkano | ah ^^ |
| 14:55.45 | Julith | ahh, thanks |
| 14:55.53 | dylanm | Elkano: We're talking LSM3, sorry to ping you :p |
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| 14:56.33 | Elkano | np ^^ |
| 14:57.19 | dushkin | Anyone got any experience with Tablet-2.0? |
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| 14:59.46 | JJSheets | Elkano, http://ace.pastey.net/84955 Is there any reason why my IB2 user would be getting that kind of error? |
| 15:01.43 | dushkin | OK, are there any other libraries to provide tooltip generation rather than Tablet? |
| 15:01.56 | JJSheets | GameTooltip? :p |
| 15:02.03 | Elkano | most likely since IB2 didn't load LibStub/CBH like it should |
| 15:02.15 | dushkin | JJSheets: Interesting, go on? |
| 15:02.20 | JJSheets | But it requires LSM3, which does do that. |
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| 15:02.58 | JJSheets | dushkin, it's Blizzard's GameTooltip. WoWWiki has details. |
| 15:02.59 | Elkano | no, LSM3 only loads these two files if run standalone |
| 15:03.17 | JJSheets | O.o okay. that makes sense. |
| 15:03.22 | JJSheets | thanks |
| 15:03.40 | dushkin | JJSheets: I'll RTFM like a good dev. Thanks. |
| 15:03.47 | dylanm | Notice that the lib's xml doesn't load that stuff. |
| 15:04.10 | JJSheets | is too used to standalone libs. :p |
| 15:04.37 | dushkin | JJSheets: By the way, can I set a maximum width through GameTooltip? |
| 15:04.50 | JJSheets | dushkin, not sure. |
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| 15:05.11 | JJSheets | If you want anything too complex, you'll probably need to use Tablet-2.0 |
| 15:05.29 | dushkin | JJSheets: The only problem is that I have a few tooltips, but some may contain pretty long text |
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| 15:07.46 | dushkin | JJSheets: However, I just need to draw some colorful text, no columns or anything.Will look into it. |
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| 15:09.10 | dushkin | Actually, what's the stuff that they use to generate the tooltips of items when you hover over them (for instance in the inventory) |
| 15:09.27 | JJSheets | GameTooltip, I think. |
| 15:09.29 | Slayman | it's a me again! |
| 15:09.35 | Slayman | ~Mario |
| 15:09.50 | Slayman | purl, bad |
| 15:09.51 | purl | ACTION whines like a puppy and sulks |
| 15:10.27 | dylanm | dushkin: That happens outside of the FrameXML. Hard to say what they do. The GameTooltip gets populated and you can look through it if you like. |
| 15:10.59 | dushkin | dylanm: Yep, I will. |
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| 15:12.28 | Slayman | ~emulate purl |
| 15:12.29 | purl | Arghh! Why don't you just go play with yourself for once?! Well, probably not "for once". |
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| 15:13.02 | dylanm | Kind of curious as to how they do wrapping of long text. |
| 15:13.22 | dylanm | It would be classic Blizzard to have a bunch of \ns in there. |
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| 15:16.24 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r67694 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Button.lua IB_Main.lua embeds.xml libs/): InfiniBar-2.0 - When the InfiniBar2 GUI is open, you can click on buttons to be taken to their configuration page. Also fixed an issue with LibStub and CallbackHandler-1.0 embeds and externals. |
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| 15:17.09 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, ? |
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| 15:17.54 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r67695 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua BananaDKP.toc libs/): BananaDKP: Remove Tablet-2.0. |
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| 15:18.58 | Lukian | pokes ckknight |
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| 15:20.13 | charon | how expensive are function calls? relative to an Average Statement(tm) |
| 15:21.57 | mitch0 | charon: good luck with that :P |
| 15:22.07 | clad|office | its a bogus question |
| 15:22.12 | clad|office | it depends entirely on what you're trying to do |
| 15:22.19 | clad|office | they are more expensive |
| 15:22.30 | clad|office | but often, that doesn't matter one bit |
| 15:22.43 | mitch0 | (the answer is somewhere between 3 banans and the color pink) |
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| 15:24.39 | kenlyric | bananas per square ironing board. |
| 15:24.55 | JJSheets | lol |
| 15:25.49 | kenlyric | suffers from hand-squeezy death |
| 15:27.16 | Lukian | what map replacement addons are there? |
| 15:27.36 | JJSheets | map? Cartographer. Minimap? Chinchilla |
| 15:27.45 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r67696 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast.lua Click2Cast.toc Click2CastMenu.lua libs/): Click2Cast: Remove Tablet. |
| 15:27.46 | JJSheets | nothing else matters. |
| 15:27.47 | cncfanatics | I don't like either :p |
| 15:27.49 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 15:27.52 | clad|office | JJSheets: ... except no. |
| 15:27.54 | clad|office | thanks. |
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| 15:28.03 | cncfanatics | minimap, simpleminimap |
| 15:28.09 | cncfanatics | real map, no need for any tbh |
| 15:28.15 | Lukian | JJSheets, I need to disable rock for a day |
| 15:28.26 | JJSheets | ah. have fun. :) |
| 15:28.30 | Lukian | something lagging my ui to hell (and even crashing my box) |
| 15:28.35 | clad|office | mapster |
| 15:28.36 | cncfanatics | prolly not rock |
| 15:28.39 | Lukian | I think it's rock_events library |
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| 15:29.52 | cncfanatics | I doubt its rock, I have it running for pitbull and it doesn't lag me the least bit |
| 15:30.19 | JJSheets | It could be something using rock. |
| 15:30.33 | Lukian | aye, I think it's likely one of the cartographer extensions |
| 15:30.59 | Lukian | dogtag3 was a definite issue |
| 15:31.03 | cncfanatics | then just disable carto completely, together with its expension |
| 15:31.45 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r67697 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 15:31.45 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 15:31.45 | CIA-9 | - Send reset sync when when an actual opponent was fought between data resets. |
| 15:32.05 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r67698 10oUF_Banzai/ (oUF_Banzai.lua oUF_Banzai.toc): oUF_Banzai: Cleanup. |
| 15:33.31 | Lukian | It's probably _Notes and other addons using it |
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| 15:36.15 | Lukian | http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08143/wowscrnshot_040108_164832458.jpg <- DogTag 3, woof, It'll chew your CPU. |
| 15:36.22 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 15:36.23 | cncfanatics | so true |
| 15:36.27 | cncfanatics | which is why I dislike dogtag |
| 15:36.33 | cncfanatics | and why I'll prolly get rid of pitbull soon |
| 15:36.58 | Lukian | I was losing 10-15fps in kara, 10 players, aoe pulls, due to dogtag formatting on cowtip |
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| 15:37.20 | kergoth | ouch |
| 15:37.24 | Estil | wow so many mods |
| 15:37.45 | Grum | what for tags did you have? |
| 15:37.47 | Industrial | told you so |
| 15:37.54 | Lukian | Grum, defaults |
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| 15:39.09 | Grum | Lukian: i am curious, mouse-over cowtips gave you so much cpu use? |
| 15:39.40 | Lukian | Grum, yes |
| 15:39.46 | Grum | that seems rather erm .. weird? |
| 15:39.52 | Lukian | indeed :/ |
| 15:39.55 | Grum | the default tag has nearly nothing special in it |
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| 15:40.00 | FtH|Daemona | AceComm Error -> http://ace.pastey.net/84960 |
| 15:40.01 | Grum | you prolly have a slow cpu =D |
| 15:40.01 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67699 10WoWEquip/ (. WoWEquip.lua WoWEquip.toc embeds.xml): WoWEquip: - Upgrade to LibItemBonus-2.0. Until I rewrite this addon. |
| 15:40.11 | Lukian | Grum, there's a few other addons using dogtag though to be fair |
| 15:40.21 | Lukian | icehud is one I can think of |
| 15:40.36 | Grum | it really depends how icehud does it |
| 15:40.42 | Grum | it might be polling instead of catching events |
| 15:40.48 | FtH|Daemona | Recount Error -> http://ace.pastey.net/84960 |
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| 15:42.01 | kenlyric | you got to love it. "localization update" "localiztions update" "STOP BREAKING MODS" |
| 15:43.03 | Estil | lol |
| 15:43.23 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: that acecomm error is a recount error |
| 15:44.05 | FtH|Daemona | uuh i just categorized it by first line ;) |
| 15:44.06 | chiper | thats what he just said |
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| 15:44.45 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i only clicked something that said acecomm error and didnt continue reading the other paste :P |
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| 15:45.31 | NivFreak | Who is rabbit in here again? |
| 15:45.38 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I am |
| 15:45.39 | dylanm | NivFreak: vharr |
| 15:45.45 | NivFreak | vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/84962 |
| 15:46.01 | NivFreak | from right clicking on the fubar icomn |
| 15:46.03 | NivFreak | icon |
| 15:46.53 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr |
| 15:46.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ur done |
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| 15:47.08 | sag_ich_nicht | there have been claims |
| 15:47.14 | sag_ich_nicht | of swatter |
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| 15:47.26 | sag_ich_nicht | doing better/catching more stacktraces |
| 15:47.29 | sag_ich_nicht | than buggrabber |
| 15:47.53 | nevcairiel | the stacktraces are limited by the (ab)use of pcall |
| 15:47.55 | vhaarr | yeah because people don't know how to read, Swatter gives more lines of output than buggrabber, but there's not more info in it |
| 15:47.57 | nevcairiel | not the bug grabbing addon |
| 15:48.29 | nevcairiel | swatter appends a looong list of all your addons |
| 15:48.37 | NivFreak | yea |
| 15:48.40 | vhaarr | which is total bs |
| 15:48.41 | nevcairiel | + send bugs function in bugsack = the win |
| 15:48.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i kno |
| 15:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr nevcairiel blame Ellipsis |
| 15:49.00 | sag_ich_nicht | she said it! |
| 15:49.03 | Josh_Borke | meh, i'll never use it and i like the swatter interface |
| 15:49.08 | Josh_Borke | so swatter for me :-D |
| 15:49.09 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: for some bugs it might be useful, like you know "hey that mod breaks my mod" .. but thats rarely the case |
| 15:49.18 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: I know what you mean, the stack traces from swatter will actually have MORE LINES than the buggrabber ones, but there is NO additional info in those lines |
| 15:49.23 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 15:49.37 | NivFreak | the bigwigs naxx module is broken too |
| 15:49.48 | vhaarr | well it hasn't been updated for 2.4 |
| 15:49.52 | vhaarr | so of course it's broken |
| 15:50.15 | nevcairiel | its crazy that people still do naxx |
| 15:50.19 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 15:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | it's crazy that they don't |
| 15:50.27 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: some people never got to see it |
| 15:50.32 | sag_ich_nicht | sapphiron still drops the best shoulder enchants ingame |
| 15:50.36 | chiper | I did like swatter, but bugsack makes me laugh. plus, fubar icon > slash commands |
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| 15:50.59 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67700 10WoWEquip/ (6 files): WoWEquip: - Bump version to 0.91 for now. |
| 15:51.41 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: so for which classes are those enchants to be so imba? |
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| 15:52.41 | Apoco | rwar |
| 15:53.40 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: locks iirc? |
| 15:53.49 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r67701 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Don't try to load Rock libraries when checking their version. |
| 15:53.52 | NivFreak | but it's just slightly better |
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| 15:53.53 | vhaarr | NivFreak: update spygnome and try again please |
| 15:54.05 | NivFreak | vhaarr: k, I'll grab it after the zip and check ;) |
| 15:54.07 | NivFreak | than ks |
| 15:54.12 | vhaarr | zzz lern2svn |
| 15:54.20 | NivFreak | <-- lazy |
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| 15:54.39 | NivFreak | unless the .svn is in the zip ;) |
| 15:55.04 | NivFreak | (it'd be nice if it was) |
| 15:56.19 | NivFreak | wow. ace svn is a bit slow |
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| 15:59.02 | NivFreak | vhaarr: nope |
| 15:59.02 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r67702 10oRA2/Leader/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Leader/MainTank: Don't require that people set as main tanks are in our raid, since UnitInRaid(foo) fails when the name starts with 'Pet', 'Raid', 'Party', 'Target', or any other unit identifier. |
| 15:59.07 | vhaarr | no what |
| 15:59.12 | NivFreak | no dice |
| 15:59.18 | NivFreak | svn co'd and still the same error |
| 15:59.22 | NivFreak | or close, let me pasty |
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| 15:59.50 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r67703 10DaHud/ (7 files in 5 dirs): |
| 15:59.50 | CIA-9 | DaHud: |
| 15:59.50 | CIA-9 | - (Icons Module) Hopefully fix where it wont remove all the ComboPoints Plugins icons when changing type of the icon. |
| 15:59.50 | CIA-9 | - (Text Module) Changed font size range to 4-38 |
| 15:59.51 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: right clicking on the spygnome fubar icon freezes my pc for a sec and then opens omnicc config O.o |
| 15:59.52 | cncfanatics | hmmm, does anyone know exactly when the UI gets the in combat lockdown if you are in combat when you login ? |
| 16:00.04 | NivFreak | vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/84965 |
| 16:00.04 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: wtf oO |
| 16:00.15 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: yeah^^ |
| 16:00.15 | NivFreak | hah |
| 16:00.23 | ben_ | Is it possible to have a macro switch me to def stance on the first press and equip my shield on the immediately following second press of the same button? |
| 16:00.23 | Stanzilla | that's what I was thinking^^ |
| 16:00.35 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: but yeah it's normal that it freezes for a sec, it does a lot of stuff when you open it for the first time |
| 16:00.41 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I have no idea then, hand it to ckk |
| 16:00.46 | NivFreak | vhaarr: k |
| 16:00.52 | Stanzilla | but why does it open omnicc config? O.o |
| 16:00.55 | NivFreak | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/84965 |
| 16:00.56 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 16:01.13 | Cyn | hows the fialing today |
| 16:01.15 | Cyn | :P |
| 16:01.21 | cncfanatics | someone has an idea when the combat lockdown occures at login ? :( |
| 16:01.26 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: possibly because OmniCC opens its config when some of the functions SpyGnome uses to get the addon version are called |
| 16:01.41 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 16:01.41 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: or maybe it just opens automatically the first time the addon is loaded, which SpyGnome would also do |
| 16:01.48 | vhaarr | to get the version |
| 16:01.55 | Cyn | i assume that the sader trinket is better then the icon over all right |
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| 16:02.01 | Elsia | heya |
| 16:02.04 | Stanzilla | yeah that's possible. OmniCC config is LoD |
| 16:02.32 | Stanzilla | lol SpyGnome even get's my GatherMate_Data addon to be loaded |
| 16:02.56 | vhaarr | yeah it loads what it can when you access the menu |
| 16:03.02 | vhaarr | if you don't access the menu it won't load them |
| 16:03.13 | Stanzilla | kk. |
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| 16:03.45 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: if I didn't, people would just come and complain that "when I open my spygnome menu I can't see my own version of addon 'foo'" |
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| 16:03.55 | Stanzilla | yeah. |
| 16:04.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:51] <nevcairiel> sag_ich_nicht: so for which classes are those enchants to be so imba? <--uh pretty much every class ingame except for tanks MAYBE |
| 16:04.42 | Lothaer | hey guys, i got a question about the combat log changes, did all the pre 2.4 events ie CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE etc all get changed to just COMBAT_LOG_EVENT? |
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| 16:05.30 | nevcairiel | Lothaer: yes |
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| 16:06.33 | Kemayo | ben_: Something similar to "/cast [nostance:2] Defensive Stance" then "/equip Name of Shield" |
| 16:06.49 | Lothaer | ok so, if a mod that uses multiple events like this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE") i can just delete them all and have just 1 line this:RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT")? |
| 16:06.55 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r67704 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Switch to using GetItemIcon() instead of using the stored icon path. Will test for a few days for any ill effects before I put in code to demolish saved icon data for a much smaller SavedVariable file. |
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| 16:07.12 | CIA-9 | 03ascalia * r67705 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: |
| 16:07.12 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:07.13 | CIA-9 | - changed Cooking Recipe |
| 16:07.13 | Olison | the whine thread got closed at least \o/ |
| 16:07.29 | ben_ | Kemayo: It might be similar |
| 16:07.35 | Industrial | I closed it |
| 16:07.41 | Industrial | people kept derailing my thread |
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| 16:08.18 | Industrial | :[ ] |
| 16:09.17 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r67706 10DaHud/modules/Icons/Icons.lua: |
| 16:09.17 | CIA-9 | DaHud: |
| 16:09.17 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.29 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r67707 10BetterQuest/embeds.xml: BetterQuest: embeds.xml should load AceGUI *before* AceConfig. |
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| 16:10.12 | Zhinjio | G'morning, Industrial |
| 16:10.30 | Fisker- | ~seen nymbia |
| 16:10.34 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 6h 22m 17s ago, saying: 'night all'. |
| 16:10.34 | Dark_Elf | by the way what dos DaHud do? |
| 16:12.34 | Viper0000 | how do i setup modality, to just show/hide an action bar with a hotkey |
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| 16:19.13 | Fisker- | i'll destroy you Industrial |
| 16:19.50 | Amadeo | He'll attack you with wrenches and jackhammers |
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| 16:20.06 | Fisker- | I WILL DESTROY HIM |
| 16:20.45 | Lukian | Grum, can you ask parnic that re: dogtag when he's around? (<Grum> it really depends how icehud does it <Grum> it might be polling instead of catching events |
| 16:20.47 | Lukian | I'm off to bed |
| 16:21.37 | Amadeo | I wish I could go to bed |
| 16:21.44 | Amadeo | lol |
| 16:21.54 | Amadeo | kekeke lolcats i lol'd |
| 16:22.11 | CIA-9 | 03kergoth * r67708 10DaHud/ (. embeds.xml): DaHud: apparently Threat-2.0 needs AceSerializer-3.0 now, fix the embeds. |
| 16:24.35 | Silviu- | nevcariel http://ace.pastey.net/84966 |
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| 16:25.26 | Primer | trying to understand this whole "single profile file with all my characters in it" vs. "several file, each with its own character's profile in it" |
| 16:25.57 | Primer | I've been re-writing my addon to use ace3. It mostly works, just the profile isn't quite working yet |
| 16:26.05 | nevcairiel | Silviu-: wtf did you do :P |
| 16:26.13 | Silviu- | all raid get the same error |
| 16:26.18 | Wyanna | how do I check if a variable is "nil" |
| 16:26.20 | Silviu- | we just entered Sunwell |
| 16:26.26 | Silviu- | omg 44 errors :/ |
| 16:26.35 | Primer | I notice that files are created: SavedVariables/MyAddon.lua and Realmname/CharacterName/SavedVariables/MyAddon.lua |
| 16:27.01 | Silviu- | http://ace.pastey.net/84967 |
| 16:27.07 | Primer | which method is "preferred"? |
| 16:27.18 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r67709 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome - fix a C stack overflow. The code itself needs to change to allow handling of nils in a sane manner. |
| 16:27.23 | ckknight | Lukian: I have been poked |
| 16:27.30 | nevcairiel | Silviu-: that part never changed for a long time o.O |
| 16:27.45 | Silviu- | Yes strange |
| 16:28.19 | Silviu- | 60 errors till now first 2 grp`s in Sunwell |
| 16:28.25 | Silviu- | My bugsack is spinning ^^ |
| 16:28.34 | CIA-9 | 03philosound * r67710 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 16:28.34 | CIA-9 | Numen: |
| 16:28.34 | CIA-9 | - incredible tiny performance tweak by moving the Mana Tide announce to PLAYER_TOTEM_UPDATE |
| 16:28.37 | Wyanna | Primer - I'd imagine that it depends on what makes sense for your addon - do you think people will want to configure it once or will they want to have different settings on different characters? |
| 16:28.41 | nevcairiel | did you reloadui if it still happens? |
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| 16:28.52 | ckknight | NivFreak: I fixed that overflow for you |
| 16:29.13 | Lukian | ckknight, can you check over dogtag and rock events library for code that might be causing excessive cpu usage? especially when mousing over a lot of units in a short period of time (raiding aoe, av,kara etc) (cowtip) and things like general cartographer_notes cpu usage |
| 16:29.23 | Silviu- | nevcairiel not only me get this error, all raid :P |
| 16:29.33 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 16:29.36 | Lukian | I noticed events spike in usage before my last lockup |
| 16:29.36 | Silviu- | nevcariel could it be that some don`t have latest version and that is why ? |
| 16:29.56 | ckknight | Lukian: not right now, at work |
| 16:30.05 | ckknight | I get to add git support to curseforge today |
| 16:30.15 | Lukian | when you can :) no rush, just means I can't use dogtag3/cowtip for a while |
| 16:30.18 | Lukian | http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08143/wowscrnshot_040108_164832458.jpg <- DogTag 3, woof, It'll chew your CPU. |
| 16:30.41 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: can I ask how you manage stances in BT2 & BT3 ? |
| 16:30.44 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 16:30.45 | ckknight | DogTag itself is pretty cheap... |
| 16:30.45 | Primer | Wyanna: except each character's data exists, regardless |
| 16:30.50 | cncfanatics | I'm pondering about how exactly to handle them in FB atm |
| 16:30.51 | Primer | Wyanna: note what I wrote |
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| 16:31.16 | Primer | "single profile file with all my characters in all my realms in it" vs. "several files, each with its own character's/realm profile in it" |
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| 16:32.18 | Lukian | ckknight, it could well be other issues, but there's a definite performance increase when I disable dogtag3 (icehud also uses it, perhaps badly?) |
| 16:32.19 | Amadeo | That's why I had to stop using Rock stuff, my PC just can't handle it anymore |
| 16:33.09 | nevcairiel | Silviu-: i tested omen earlier and it didnt happen for me o.O |
| 16:33.10 | Silviu- | nevcariel now is gone |
| 16:33.14 | ckknight | Lukian: hrm, yea, if you could do me a huge favor and narrow it down to the addon that uses DogTag (PitBull, CowTip, IceHUD), I can do more research from there |
| 16:33.18 | Silviu- | veeeeeery strange :) |
| 16:33.32 | ckknight | Lukian: cause if you just have DogTag and nothing using it, it doesn't use any cpu at all, afaik |
| 16:33.42 | Lukian | ckknight, afaik only cowtip and icehud are using dogtag |
| 16:34.03 | Elsia | anyone got a link how to do profile handling using AceDB-3.0/AceConfig? |
| 16:34.04 | ckknight | Lukian: well, disable CowTip, see if you still have issues, then disable IceHUD and reenable CowTip, see if you have issues |
| 16:34.37 | Lukian | alright, I'll do some testing tomorrow |
| 16:34.59 | ckknight | thanks |
| 16:35.35 | Viper0000 | how do i setup modality, to just show/hide an action bar with a hotkey |
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| 16:36.09 | Zhinjio | g'morning, ckk |
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| 16:43.41 | shieldb | nevcairiel: if I've got an omen feature request/improvement, am I best off dropping you or antiarc (or someone else) a note on it, or just submitting it to jira? |
| 16:43.52 | nevcairiel | best would be jira |
| 16:43.58 | shieldb | I'll do that, then |
| 16:44.00 | shieldb | thanks |
| 16:44.57 | Kemayo | Elsia: Look at AceDBOptions-3.0 (in the Ace3 directory) |
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| 16:48.11 | Primer | I'm trying to figure out how to make a localized drop down in the bliz options. Ideally I'd like to have a string constant to represent the value, and the display come from the Locale |
| 16:48.13 | [SW]Dodge | Elsia: Message: ..\AddOns\Recount\LazySync.lua line 56: Usage: SendCommMessage(addon, "prefix", "text", "distribution"[, "target"[, "prio"]]) |
| 16:48.38 | NivFreak | ckknight: thanks |
| 16:48.39 | Primer | so I have something like values = { FOO = L["Foo"], BAR = L["Bar"] } |
| 16:49.05 | Primer | but it seems the left values must be known constants |
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| 16:50.04 | shieldb | nevcairiel: Omen-26 submitted \o/ |
| 16:50.11 | Primer | I'm not using values that are built in. The options are my own |
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| 16:52.54 | charon | unloads a shotgun at lua |
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| 16:53.17 | charon | why does 'require' replace every dot in my filename with a slash? this is so frustrating |
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| 16:54.05 | Fisker- | oh u |
| 16:54.24 | NeoTron | Sweet. My guild is now wowjutsued at 150 US |
| 16:54.48 | Snago | wtb #wowace-jira |
| 16:55.09 | sacarasc | NeoTron: nice! |
| 16:55.16 | ben_ | How do I equip closet gnome sets from another addon |
| 16:55.18 | ben_ | ? |
| 16:55.31 | sacarasc | NeoTron: what is it in the world? |
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| 16:55.57 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67711 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: fix the title bar in SingleTarget mode |
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| 16:56.17 | Primer | does order in embeds.xml matter? |
| 16:56.26 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 16:56.37 | nevcairiel | if the libraries have dependencys |
| 16:56.37 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 16:56.49 | qwesto | ben_, I use ClosetGnome:WearSet("MySet") in my macroes at least |
| 16:57.07 | kergoth | Benumbed: is it possible to change the alpha of the bar -background- if you have one set, in DaHud? (yet, anyway) |
| 16:57.10 | Primer | yeah, keeps telling me can't find AceConfigRegistry from AceConfig |
| 16:57.17 | NeoTron | sacarasc: 343 |
| 16:57.28 | sacarasc | not bad |
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| 16:58.14 | sacarasc | wait... what's it guild isn't #1 anymore |
| 16:58.31 | sacarasc | down in 39 ;o |
| 16:58.39 | ben_ | qwesto: Thanks a lot |
| 16:58.53 | NeoTron | yep |
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| 16:59.18 | NeoTron | it's based on gear now. they obviously dont' have the best stuff |
| 16:59.25 | NeoTron | since they are all equal on the number of boss kilsl |
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| 17:00.41 | Saroz | Elsia, lazysync:56: usage, SendCommMessage |
| 17:00.42 | Saroz | fix |
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| 17:01.51 | CIA-9 | 03julith 07julith * r67712 10GridManaBars/ (5 files): |
| 17:01.51 | CIA-9 | GridManaBars: |
| 17:01.51 | CIA-9 | - separated ManaBarFrame from ManaStatus to be more consistent with Grids Indicator<->status concept |
| 17:01.51 | CIA-9 | - caching power type of units |
| 17:01.52 | NeoTron | sacarasc: also remember that theer are only 3 bosses now |
| 17:01.52 | sacarasc | heh, i'm not even a ranked member of my new guild ;( |
| 17:01.52 | NeoTron | progression is naturally halted |
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| 17:06.00 | kenlyric | I'm not sure you can call that natural... |
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| 17:07.58 | Aeyan | ckknight: Did some quick testing. Aside from the initial burst of dogtag info, biggest culprit as far as ramping up the CPU on Dogtag seems to be mousing over people with CowTip (avg 25-40 /sec) |
| 17:08.00 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r67713 10BetterQuest/ (. embeds.xml modules/details/ modules/modules.xml): BetterQuest: Needs a LibSink-2.0 embed, too. |
| 17:08.10 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r67714 10DaHud/ (Style.lua modules/Icons/Core.lua modules/Icons/Icons.lua): |
| 17:08.10 | CIA-9 | DaHud: |
| 17:08.10 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.26 | Aeyan | Pitbull idles for me at around 2 or 3, when just chilling |
| 17:08.34 | Aeyan | 4-5 with something like combat fader enabled |
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| 17:09.59 | ckknight | Aeyan: hrm |
| 17:10.02 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I mean.. progression is stuck at a level |
| 17:10.08 | ckknight | Aeyan: and mousing over a second time gives another burst? |
| 17:10.13 | Aeyan | Yes |
| 17:10.14 | NeoTron | and all "top tier" guilds are even in kills |
| 17:10.36 | Aeyan | But gimme a sec, let me confirm that one |
| 17:10.43 | NeoTron | so the only differenting issue is level of gear for the guild as a whole (which benefits larger guilds where alts run 10 mans and lower tier 25 mans etc) |
| 17:11.46 | Dark_Elf | patches game finally and now i can go test the fixed mods hehe, laters |
| 17:12.05 | Aeyan | Yeah, it gives another burst |
| 17:12.53 | snapcase | anyone know why parrot hasn't been updated to 2.4? I guess someone asked before me so I can save the whine to ckknight personally :) |
| 17:13.21 | NeoTron | I am glad I have no more addons to make until next week where I need my kalecgos addon fixed up |
| 17:13.59 | ckknight | snapcase: because there's only so many hours in the day and I got a grown-up people's job |
| 17:14.11 | ckknight | snapcase: I'll upgrade it eventually, well, that's the hope, at least |
| 17:14.20 | ZealotOnAStick | check the Parrot-1.0 thread on the wowace forums, someone's hacking it to mostly work. |
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| 17:14.30 | Aeyan | ckknight: Might have exaggerated a bit, actually |
| 17:14.40 | Aeyan | Mousing over just one person gives about 10-15 each time |
| 17:14.53 | Aeyan | Sweeping crowds causes the large bursts |
| 17:15.02 | snapcase | ckknight: ok thanks for your reply |
| 17:17.58 | kalahassi | how could blizzard break naxxramas ? i dont see any reason for it in the patchnotes, nothing that could be related to it :D |
| 17:18.04 | NeoTron | so from what I understand, kalecgos is a healer/tank/tactical fight, brutallus is a pure raid throughput (primarily DPS but also healing/tanking) |
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| 17:18.14 | NeoTron | but what is felmyst? more of a technical fight? |
| 17:18.51 | genetik | i've heard think nightbane mixed with heigan |
| 17:19.14 | NeoTron | so felmyst is a dance party with skeletons |
| 17:19.30 | genetik | heh |
| 17:20.01 | Silverstorm | I'd be interested in felmyst....but we only have one illidan kill, and Raid DPS maxes at about 20-21k...far short of Brutallus requirements |
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| 17:20.34 | elu | can anyone recommend a macro forum where i can paste all my custom macros and ask if anyone sees a problem with them and how they would make them better or quicker etc? |
| 17:20.52 | elu | they work fine but they may not be working as best they could! :D |
| 17:21.58 | NeoTron | Silverstorm: I'm worried about my guilds' ability to do brutallus |
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| 17:22.01 | genetik | i'm pretty sure they're going to have to retune at least brutallus, if for nothing else so that guilds don't have to farm tier 6 for 8 months before having a decent shot at him |
| 17:22.01 | Aeyan | Well, you could use the official macro/UI forum |
| 17:22.08 | Aeyan | Maybe HELP! on wowace =P |
| 17:22.15 | NeoTron | and we've farmed illidan since the end of last year |
| 17:22.28 | NeoTron | some of us still don't have 4 pc t6 (myself and one of the mages) for example |
| 17:22.47 | NeoTron | one warglaive, one skull, one illidan staff (but plenty swords / offhands from hyjal) |
| 17:22.49 | elu | ty aeyan i'll try both |
| 17:23.08 | Fisker- | anyone got a bloodboil wws? |
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| 17:23.31 | genetik | i can put one from sunday up real quick |
| 17:23.55 | Fisker- | sure if you want to :P |
| 17:24.30 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r67715 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 17:24.30 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 17:24.30 | CIA-9 | - Update Kil`jaeden's loots |
| 17:24.31 | genetik | i've been slacking off |
| 17:24.31 | genetik | heh |
| 17:24.43 | Saroz | wow |
| 17:24.49 | Saroz | first time since 2.4 that omen actually works |
| 17:24.54 | Silverstorm | NeoTron: you have more t6 than I do (none). that, and 2 of our 3 rogues seem to insist on dagger specs |
| 17:25.09 | genetik | heh.. we did brutallus on sunday (first time kill) with no working threat meters |
| 17:25.12 | genetik | er |
| 17:25.16 | genetik | not brutallus |
| 17:25.16 | genetik | bloodboil |
| 17:25.55 | Silverstorm | we did BB last night, with semi-functional Omen...as long as DPS waits until almost the first p2, we have no issues with threat, except one moronic SP |
| 17:26.15 | Tornhoof | hmm getting lazysync error messages in recount ;) |
| 17:26.19 | smallbrain | don't really think bloodboil is threat sensitive besides the tanks having to rotate |
| 17:26.20 | genetik | yeah.. that's what we ended up doing.. really light in p1 and balls to the walls in p2 |
| 17:26.33 | smallbrain | wtf |
| 17:26.43 | Silverstorm | well...after the first p2, it stays all out for us |
| 17:26.59 | Silverstorm | smallbrain: the tank rotation is what makes it threat sensitive |
| 17:27.08 | NeoTron | Silverstorm: well yes. I'd expect you need to farm bt/hyjal for a few months to have a chance to kill brutallus (at least) |
| 17:27.22 | NeoTron | Silverstorm: the threat reductions don't help |
| 17:27.59 | NeoTron | just like void reaver, threat is reduced during the fight |
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| 17:28.16 | Silverstorm | well, we did manage to clear Hyjal fairly easily after a 3-4 week layoff to focus on Mother/Council/Illidan, so we clear both instances in 13-14 hours now...just have to trim that down |
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| 17:28.49 | NeoTron | our best clear was about 7.5 hrs |
| 17:29.39 | Ordog | nevcairiel any idea when omen reaches a "okay i guess we cant really fix anymore"-state? any known issues unsolved? |
| 17:29.44 | Tornhoof | ping elsia |
| 17:29.48 | Elsia | pong |
| 17:30.00 | Elsia | can you PM me the errors? |
| 17:30.03 | nevcairiel | Ordog: will be some time, i suppose, but the serious bugs seem to be out |
| 17:30.04 | Tornhoof | sure |
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| 17:30.59 | Vulcanus | omen worked fine for us in gruul yest, except for those idiots who refused to update that kept ruining the meters with their bad data >_> but if I read the latest commit correct, threatlib will now discount incompatible data :D |
| 17:32.04 | NeoTron | we did gruul last night |
| 17:32.17 | NeoTron | it's funny |
| 17:32.27 | Vulcanus | we had a server crash at 30% with everybody alive >( |
| 17:32.29 | NeoTron | we just killed kalecgos and we go to gruul's lair to get an upgrade for the physical dpsers |
| 17:32.34 | [TUE]Natherul | ok i gonna need some help with uploading using turtoiseSVN (windows) i mean however much i try and fix using wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps i cant get it to work while uploading, someone please message me and help me through it |
| 17:32.37 | NeoTron | damn trinket (didn't drop ) |
| 17:32.43 | Tornhoof | get me a dst too neotron ;) |
| 17:33.14 | NeoTron | funny thing is the maulgar pull started with the boomkin shammy tank having eager trigger finger and dying on the pull from maulgar |
| 17:33.32 | shieldb | NeoTron: I know I've seen someone lamenting in the past in the EJ channel that they've been farming Gruul every week for a little more than a year at this point and seen two DSTs drop total |
| 17:33.33 | Silverstorm | heh, but you only need what, 15 people for Gruul now? |
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| 17:34.36 | NeoTron | likely could 10-man it |
| 17:34.43 | Zhinjio | whoosh |
| 17:34.47 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r67716 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Recount.lua healbuffs.lua): |
| 17:34.47 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 17:34.47 | CIA-9 | - Fixed bug in syncing self during version handshaking (thanks Tornhoof) |
| 17:34.47 | CIA-9 | - Fixed a bug related to earth shield tracking |
| 17:34.56 | shieldb | Didn't D&T do it with 15 people right after the original gruul nerf in T4 gear? |
| 17:34.59 | NeoTron | but man |
| 17:35.04 | NeoTron | 5 badges, some gold |
| 17:35.06 | NeoTron | in 20m |
| 17:35.07 | shieldb | Or was that Nihilum? |
| 17:35.13 | NeoTron | it is a pretty good place to farm now on a weekly basis |
| 17:35.21 | shieldb | Bagtheridon as well |
| 17:35.29 | NeoTron | haven't tried that |
| 17:35.36 | NeoTron | I suspect new mags would be ezmode |
| 17:35.43 | NeoTron | but old mags was trouble for my guild man |
| 17:35.48 | shieldb | you can have one click team |
| 17:35.54 | Silverstorm | hmm...that's a good point, I kept forgetting about badges in 25s, plus the gold...I will suggest that to our raid once we clear BT/Hyjal this week |
| 17:35.59 | NeoTron | going from one shot clearing SSC to wiping 4 times on mags before giving up :P |
| 17:36.10 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 17:36.13 | Tornhoof | mag was hard for us |
| 17:36.14 | Tornhoof | yeh |
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| 17:36.23 | Tornhoof | i know that feeling |
| 17:36.25 | NeoTron | we killed him for attunement before TK was attunement free |
| 17:36.35 | NeoTron | so we didn't just skip him like some guilds today |
| 17:36.46 | NeoTron | we might try an altmags this week |
| 17:36.48 | shieldb | we took our T6 raid after brutallus wipes to mag (like 20 people - folks had to log) and killed all the channelers with like 40 seconds to spare |
| 17:36.57 | NeoTron | lol |
| 17:36.58 | shieldb | it was pretty boring |
| 17:36.58 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 17:37.01 | Elsia | tuning was kinda out of whack, mag > most of T5 is odd, or T5 end bosses > most of T6. |
| 17:37.04 | NeoTron | t6 gear helps a hell of a lot |
| 17:37.18 | Pkekyo| | ~lart Andreas |
| 17:37.18 | purl | takes a big bite out of Andreas's jugular vein |
| 17:37.21 | NeoTron | t6 was, by the time we got there at least, undertuned imho |
| 17:37.22 | NeoTron | too easy |
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| 17:37.39 | NeoTron | you shouldn't oneshot shahraz, 2 shot supremus, 3 shot akama etc |
| 17:37.39 | Silverstorm | heh, we have pug Gruul/Mags on fridays. people bring any Kara geared toon or better |
| 17:37.50 | Pkekyo| | ~lart Andreas |
| 17:37.50 | purl | hits Andreas with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 17:37.54 | NeoTron | we have lots of kara/za/some 25-man t4/5 geared alts |
| 17:38.01 | genetik | Fisker-: sorry.. got sidetracked at work. http://wowwebstats.com/nzk3ust56pdlw |
| 17:38.36 | Silverstorm | I agree, Neo...we 2 shot supremeus, 3 shot akama, and shahraz was about 90 minutes, i think |
| 17:38.46 | shieldb | Technically shouldn't you oneshot akama ? :P |
| 17:38.52 | Silverstorm | gorefiend on the other hand was pure hell |
| 17:39.01 | shieldb | the trash packs before akama are more challenging |
| 17:39.13 | NeoTron | shieldb: we had some issues with the spawns |
| 17:39.18 | NeoTron | and also figuring out how much dps to put where |
| 17:39.19 | shieldb | I could see that |
| 17:39.19 | Silverstorm | well...yes, I suppose, but when the side groups are a little dense... |
| 17:39.36 | NeoTron | we wiped like 4 times on gorefiend |
| 17:39.39 | Silverstorm | we ended up cheesing it....4 mages, 3 tanks |
| 17:39.41 | shieldb | I know we killed shahraz on like our third pull on the first night |
| 17:39.49 | shieldb | the first wipe was "oh.. this is the fight?" |
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| 17:39.56 | shieldb | second wipe was triple ports on to the tank |
| 17:39.59 | Silverstorm | Neo, we wiped for 3-4 nights on gorefiend because people couldn't handle constructs |
| 17:40.00 | shieldb | tanks* |
| 17:40.01 | kalahassi | where should i report transcriptor-bugs? cant find a topic for it |
| 17:40.02 | NeoTron | only ones we had some trouble with (meaning not go in and kill the same day as the first visit) was bloodboil, RoS, council and illidan |
| 17:40.10 | Tornhoof | heh i remember wiping on sharaz because the additional tanks didn't stand still |
| 17:40.30 | shieldb | we didn't get there for hardmode shahraz with the couch of doom, though |
| 17:40.32 | NeoTron | shieldb: so we brought lots of SR cauldrons for shahraz. we decided to test the fight out once before using them |
| 17:40.35 | NeoTron | then she died |
| 17:40.42 | NeoTron | and we were absolutely baffled at the ease at which she dies |
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| 17:41.06 | NeoTron | I think she went from zomgwtfhard to way too easy |
| 17:41.24 | Fisker- | thanks genetik :O |
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| 17:42.16 | Silverstorm | the only issues we had on shahraz was healers brain farting and the tank dying |
| 17:42.18 | shieldb | I guess it depends on where she's supposed to be tuned at |
| 17:42.31 | NeoTron | how about "harder than naj'entus" for starters? |
| 17:42.52 | Silverstorm | we seem to refuse to specifically assign people to jobs...and while that generally works, it doesn't always |
| 17:42.53 | Fisker- | damage on casters doesn't seem that bad |
| 17:42.53 | shieldb | like akama seems like he's supposed to be the "chess event++" free loot for getting in the door |
| 17:43.07 | shieldb | but supremus is also free loot for getting in the door |
| 17:43.10 | NeoTron | right |
| 17:43.15 | Fisker- | chess event is way easier |
| 17:43.16 | Hjalte | A friend of mine has everybody as Unknown in Omen - Is there anything he can do to fix it? He's using latest Omen and Threat-2.0 I believe. |
| 17:43.22 | Silverstorm | yeah, and those bracers he drops are nice! got my guild first pair while shade was bugged and no spawns to fight |
| 17:43.23 | Fisker- | supremus is kinda fucked at the moment |
| 17:43.26 | Fisker- | atleast for us |
| 17:43.29 | NeoTron | akama is an event that drives the story forward too |
| 17:43.37 | shieldb | I like that chess no longer awards loot if you don't control a piece |
| 17:43.40 | Fisker- | akama is pretty easy though when you have 3 tanks that can tank |
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| 17:43.50 | Fisker- | noooooooo |
| 17:43.53 | genetik | supremus is huuuuuuge |
| 17:43.54 | Fisker- | no moar breaks shieldb :( |
| 17:43.58 | NeoTron | speaking of bracers, a warlock in the guild replaced his alar bracers with the t6 ones |
| 17:44.02 | Fisker- | supremus looks like a badge of justice |
| 17:44.02 | Fisker- | imo |
| 17:44.03 | Fisker- | :D |
| 17:44.03 | shieldb | Just control a peon then release control and you're golden |
| 17:44.14 | NeoTron | because we haven't had a single caster bracer drop of winterchill |
| 17:44.45 | shieldb | like prior to 2.4.0 the chess event would spawn some invisible npc called "Invisible Chest Bunny" that does one damage to everyone in the room and then kills itself |
| 17:44.50 | shieldb | so that you got "tap" on the chest |
| 17:44.51 | NeoTron | i heard supremus is about 3x the size |
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| 17:45.03 | Silverstorm | I (lock) still haven't gotten OH from rage, belt from aneth, legs from kaz, t6 from az, t6/sword from archi... |
| 17:45.04 | Fisker- | probably only twice |
| 17:45.06 | shieldb | now controlling a piece as part of the event teaches you a spell that allows you to interact with the chest |
| 17:45.20 | shieldb | so if you don't control a piece you get a "You do not know that spell" when you try to open it |
| 17:45.33 | NeoTron | interesting |
| 17:45.35 | genetik | NeoTron: you know the dragons that fly up above that area? he's about as tall as those |
| 17:45.38 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:45.43 | Fisker- | i'm gonna hax |
| 17:45.44 | Fisker- | bai |
| 17:47.04 | chiper | chess was bugged when we did it saturday |
| 17:47.12 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67718 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatBoot.lua): Threat-2.0: fix a minor upgrade issue |
| 17:47.20 | shieldb | Silverstorm: the last time we saw a tempest of chaos drop was something like four months ago |
| 17:47.33 | shieldb | we've dropped hyjal now that 2.4 is out |
| 17:47.39 | chiper | dumped players into curators room, so if your piece died before the event was finished, you werent able to loot the chest |
| 17:47.40 | shieldb | but that was the only reason we were running it, and no dice |
| 17:48.01 | NeoTron | we've gotten a lot of tempest of chaos |
| 17:48.09 | shieldb | I think we're doing Friday Night Hyjalts now :P |
| 17:49.03 | Tornhoof | dunno the last time we did hyjal it took us 2.5h, easy loot there and as usual no the stuff we need |
| 17:49.12 | NeoTron | I sort of want to drop hyjal |
| 17:49.18 | NeoTron | but still need plenty of illidan / bt stuff |
| 17:49.52 | shieldb | we discussed that quite a bit on our guild forums - for where we're at the only T6 content worth running is illidan |
| 17:50.00 | shieldb | since everything else is going to get replaced in sunwell |
| 17:50.11 | shieldb | just warglaives and trinkets |
| 17:50.15 | Elsia | ahnyone else having issues with wow eating CPU since 2.4.1? My cpu is at 100% so that I can hardly use the keyboard ingame |
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| 17:50.37 | Tornhoof | nope not me |
| 17:50.39 | shieldb | (Assuming we meet the mark for Brutallus DPS, anyways) |
| 17:50.45 | NeoTron | shieldb: right |
| 17:50.49 | Tornhoof | only when i'm in the char screen my cpu is at 100% |
| 17:50.54 | chiper | no, tho I did hear someone say that dogtag was chewing up his cpu |
| 17:51.02 | Tornhoof | ah well brutallus dps is not that hard |
| 17:51.10 | NeoTron | I am guessing we'll do one night BT, 3 daysy sunwell and then have one extra short mini-raid to finish bt |
| 17:51.10 | Windcapes | hey, on the subject of Omen. Is it never backward compatible? like 5min ago versus 20min ago versions? : |
| 17:51.14 | NeoTron | we can't yet kill bt in one evening |
| 17:51.25 | Primer | I'm dying here |
| 17:51.30 | Tornhoof | we can if everything works out fine |
| 17:51.45 | Primer | values = { FOO = L["FOO"], BAR = L["BAR"] } |
| 17:51.46 | NeoTron | Tornhoof: we are not sure yet since we sitll need to learn the basic |
| 17:51.48 | chiper | wind: antiarc's still trying to fix a lot of stuff. a lot of the bugs involve fixes that cant work with previous versions |
| 17:51.50 | NeoTron | basics |
| 17:51.59 | Primer | how do I create my own constants for FOO and BAR? |
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| 17:52.21 | chiper | atleast, that's what I've been telling my guild |
| 17:52.23 | Primer | I was able to arbitrarily use LEFT/RIGHT/BOTTOM/TOP |
| 17:52.39 | Primer | but then the order of the drop down changes to the alphabetical order of those |
| 17:52.58 | Snago | Primer: You want to access the values with values.FOO and values.BAR? |
| 17:53.16 | shieldb | NeoTron: yeah we've got too many slackers to do a one night BT |
| 17:53.24 | NeoTron | we've done up to council |
| 17:53.34 | shieldb | like if just naj'entus is down, we can clear the rest normally |
| 17:53.36 | NeoTron | magic marker helps :P |
| 17:53.38 | shieldb | but not the whole thing :| |
| 17:53.43 | Primer | Snago: this is for a drop down that shows up in the bliz addons screen |
| 17:53.57 | Primer | local opts = { bla, values = { FOO ... |
| 17:54.09 | shieldb | magic marker? I'm either not getting the reference or that's an addon I'm unfamiliar with |
| 17:54.11 | NeoTron | I need to add a version query and a way to see the sync settings of others in the raid |
| 17:54.18 | chiper | NeoTron: I finally got to use magic marker in a 5man the other night. fucking awesome |
| 17:54.22 | NeoTron | shieldb: my addon - it automarks stuff absed on preference |
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| 17:54.53 | chiper | only issue I had was that I'd have to switch some CC around so that the rogue would have the frontmost target |
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| 17:55.01 | NeoTron | shieldb: once configured all you do is to hold down a key and mouseover the mobs and it puts up your preferred marks, including marks for CC etc based on raid makeup |
| 17:55.16 | NeoTron | chiper: yeah that i can't really control |
| 17:55.25 | chiper | *nod* |
| 17:55.36 | NeoTron | only way to control it is to give it higher priority (with sap high on the list) and / or mark it first |
| 17:55.37 | Primer | I wish I could just use a numeric key |
| 17:55.43 | Primer | but that generates a lua error |
| 17:55.48 | shieldb | NeoTron: I find your ideas interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. |
| 17:56.01 | Primer | values = { 1 = L["FOO"], 2 = L["BAR"] } |
| 17:56.05 | chiper | suggestion: if an attempt to CC a mob comes back as immune, a note of that in the mob info would be nice. perhaps remove that CC type from the mob |
| 17:56.15 | NeoTron | chiper: I thought about it |
| 17:56.18 | Primer | bah, I'll just hack it |
| 17:56.22 | NeoTron | a note would be good but removing cc would not |
| 17:56.34 | chiper | like the door guards in seth halls :/ |
| 17:56.36 | NeoTron | because theer are mobs like the trash before bloodboil that sometimes, but not always, is immune |
| 17:57.03 | chiper | heh, that must suck |
| 17:57.40 | NeoTron | I will add it so it makes a note of the mob being immune |
| 17:57.43 | chiper | also, is it possible to put together a data module that would contain already registered mobs from instances |
| 17:57.50 | chiper | a MagicMarker_Data type thing? |
| 17:57.59 | NeoTron | in fact I should add an immunity and vulnerable thing |
| 17:58.01 | NeoTron | so you can see both |
| 17:58.07 | NeoTron | yes |
| 17:58.09 | NeoTron | it would be |
| 17:58.26 | NeoTron | I waited to try to do it for 2.4 since I changed to use uids |
| 17:58.33 | NeoTron | vs locale depdnant mob names |
| 17:58.34 | chiper | ah |
| 17:58.37 | shieldb | NeoTron: so with magic marker |
| 17:58.46 | chiper | so you are planning to do that then? |
| 17:58.53 | NeoTron | chiper: yes |
| 17:58.57 | shieldb | say we've got three tanks for sunwell trash, two mages, and a druid |
| 17:58.57 | chiper | yay |
| 17:59.03 | elu | does anyone know when they're releasing s4:? |
| 17:59.21 | shieldb | can I set it up such that if on a following night we have three mages it automagically marks it differently? |
| 17:59.33 | NeoTron | it will automatically look at the available ccers in the raid |
| 17:59.35 | elu | because i heard that i can then by s2 for honour and i should wait and not get s1 |
| 17:59.41 | NeoTron | so if you have 3 mages it uses 3 sheep, if you haev 2 it will do 2 |
| 17:59.53 | chiper | elu: s4 is still likely months away |
| 18:00.01 | Snago | lua> values = {"FOO", "BAR"}; print("Primer: ", values[1], values[2]) |
| 18:00.01 | lua_bot | Snago: Primer: , FOO, BAR |
| 18:00.06 | NeoTron | and you can configure priorities so that sheep is always used before hibernate and other cc methods |
| 18:00.39 | NeoTron | you also pick which cc methods you want to use |
| 18:00.51 | Primer | Snago: it's ok, I worked around it |
| 18:00.56 | NeoTron | one thing I need to fix is ability to exclude certain ppl - like don't ue a feral druid for hibernate |
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| 18:01.25 | Primer | now all I need to do is make this thing load the profile after it's saved and I'm done |
| 18:01.31 | Primer | can't figure out why it's not already doing that though |
| 18:01.51 | Primer | it saves the file with the prefs (AceDB-3.0), but it won't load them |
| 18:02.58 | Kurax | Will there have Babble-Faction-3.0 and Babble-Tradeskill-3.0 in the future? |
| 18:03.05 | Snago | Primer: Make sure you're making the db object in OnInitialize, at least not before.. |
| 18:03.35 | Primer | Snago: ahh ok |
| 18:03.39 | Grum | Elsia: http://ace.pastey.net/84970 recount error - did nothing special |
| 18:04.02 | Grum | people zoning in after a we're wiping-run-for-your-life |
| 18:04.22 | Tornhoof | yah i reported that error some 20min ago i think g rum |
| 18:04.36 | Elsia | a fix for that is committed already then |
| 18:04.43 | Snago | Primer: If you make it outside OnInit it will be ran before your saved vars gets loaded and it will be overwritten when they do |
| 18:05.01 | kergoth | Benumbed: color option for the threat bar? :) |
| 18:05.24 | Primer | Snago: that makes sense, thanks |
| 18:05.59 | Funkeh` | whats the max hitrating/% for melee |
| 18:06.55 | Primer | Snago: yup, that was it |
| 18:07.16 | Primer | dunno why I did it that way...it wasn't like that in the ace2 version... |
| 18:07.26 | Tornhoof | 28% funkeh for dual wield |
| 18:07.53 | Funkeh` | Tornhoof, thanks |
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| 18:10.14 | CIA-9 | 03zhucc * r67719 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.zhTW.lua: FuBar_FriendsFu: zhTW update |
| 18:10.49 | Kemayo | Is the files zipscript running less regularly than normal? |
| 18:11.07 | TE|kulaar | btw is ora3 yet working? |
| 18:11.14 | dRiN | - [ is away ] [ Reason: Activate IdleAway: 300 min ] [ Time: 16:11:15 ] [ Pager: on ] [ Log: on ] |
| 18:11.47 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r67720 10GrindStatus/modules/OutlandShattrath.lua: |
| 18:11.47 | CIA-9 | GrindStatus: |
| 18:11.47 | CIA-9 | - Added Shattered Sun Offensive |
| 18:12.28 | Hjalte | Kemayo: I'm wondering the same |
| 18:12.31 | Grum | Elsia: i updated less than 25 minutes ago |
| 18:12.56 | Hjalte | Grum: Newest recount isn't on files.wowace.com yet. |
| 18:13.15 | Grum | ah doh |
| 18:13.25 | Grum | should be now :P |
| 18:13.38 | Grum | updated ~ 19:40 |
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| 18:14.30 | Kemayo | A commit I made over an hour ago hasn't made it up yet -- caused me to spend some debugging time on why a user's reported error wasn't fixed. :P |
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| 18:16.38 | Fisker- | i love you Benumbed |
| 18:16.42 | Fisker- | UNLIKE nymbia |
| 18:16.58 | kergoth | heh, whys that Fisker- |
| 18:17.14 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r67721 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: possible bugfix on line 533 |
| 18:17.48 | Fisker- | he fixed grindstatus rawr |
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| 18:18.13 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:18.29 | kergoth | grindstatus, is that the one that shows your rep grind progress toward a goal, and rewards anda ll? |
| 18:18.31 | kergoth | i think i tried that once |
| 18:18.39 | Nandini | hmm... i just noticed that the (mostly useless) druid ability Rake doesn't technically use a Bleeding mechanic, i always thought it did |
| 18:19.23 | Benumbed | i just fixed it so it would show up on it, wont show rewards still |
| 18:19.30 | Benumbed | but at least i can see my gdamn rep on it |
| 18:19.31 | Primer | hrmm, how best to commit this work |
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| 18:19.46 | Primer | I guess I'll just move trunk to tags and recreated my directory |
| 18:21.29 | CIA-9 | 03barfolomeu * r67722 10/ (tags/FlightHUD-0.4.3/ trunk/FlightHUD/): FlightHUD: Archiving last Ace2 version. |
| 18:24.13 | Primer | bah, that may not have been the best idea... |
| 18:24.55 | kergoth | hmm, more addons need options in the interface options menu |
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| 18:26.05 | Primer | kergoth: mine will have it shortly! |
| 18:26.13 | kergoth | good! :) |
| 18:26.13 | Primer | I mean, it already has it...just need to commit |
| 18:26.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:26.49 | Primer | crap, I need to have that dude fix the zhCN file |
| 18:26.57 | Primer | forgot about that...I added 2 new strings |
| 18:27.28 | Benumbed | why is mods like mapster and witchhunt showings its modules seperate in ace3's dropdown |
| 18:28.53 | kergoth | Benumbed: because tehy're registered seperately to facilitate them being subcategories in the interface options menu |
| 18:28.57 | kergoth | just use the interface options menu :P |
| 18:29.00 | NeoTron | how do you do it? |
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| 18:29.05 | Benumbed | yeah i figured that much |
| 18:29.09 | Benumbed | but its ugly |
| 18:29.20 | kergoth | well thats the way it is |
| 18:29.25 | Benumbed | only reason i havent put mine into wow's |
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| 18:29.36 | kergoth | i don't plan on ever using /ace3 again, personally |
| 18:29.44 | kergoth | no need for it |
| 18:29.52 | NeoTron | ace3 is a fallback when you don't know better |
| 18:30.00 | kergoth | any ace3 addon can easily inject their options into the interface options menu, and most do |
| 18:30.05 | NeoTron | i,e "wonder if this ace3 addon as a config" |
| 18:30.06 | Benumbed | i like do do /dahud |
| 18:30.11 | Benumbed | which would break that also |
| 18:30.14 | kergoth | eh? |
| 18:30.19 | NeoTron | kergoth: haven't seen any so far except omen |
| 18:30.26 | kergoth | just make it open the interface options menu to your addon's page |
| 18:30.29 | Benumbed | to get my options menu |
| 18:30.34 | Benumbed | true |
| 18:30.38 | Nandini | it annoys me that the "categories" level in the addons options is being used for addons, and not categories |
| 18:30.51 | Benumbed | dont feel like looking up how to do it atm |
| 18:31.00 | kergoth | Nandini: good luck establishing a category standard |
| 18:31.01 | Benumbed | combo points made what hair i have left, go grey |
| 18:31.12 | NeoTron | I doubt my addons would work great in interface options |
| 18:31.15 | Apoco | I'm bored. |
| 18:31.15 | kergoth | NeoTron: there are 11 addons in y addons dir that are ace3 and add their options to th einterface options menu |
| 18:31.16 | Apoco | :( |
| 18:31.16 | NeoTron | it's not resizable right? |
| 18:31.30 | kergoth | it is, but only with an addon to make it resizable, by default it isnt :\ |
| 18:31.31 | NeoTron | I could I am sure add some addons theer |
| 18:31.32 | kergoth | which sucks |
| 18:31.59 | Wyanna | is there a good tutorial or documentation on implementing an interface options panel using the new Blizz interface? |
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| 18:32.03 | kergoth | tinytip, lootalert, fishermansfriend, mapster, omen, petinstance, proximo, rangedisplay, smoothdurability, tomtom, witchhunt |
| 18:32.04 | Wyanna | <-- new addon dev |
| 18:32.14 | Nandini | i guess blizzard should have taken a proactive lead and established its own set of categories if it really intended authors to use categories |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-9 | 03scorpion * r67723 10Proximo/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-9 | Proximo: |
| 18:32.23 | CIA-9 | - zhCN & zhTW update |
| 18:33.08 | NeoTron | kergoth: so tinytip and omen for me then |
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| 18:33.40 | NeoTron | is there a (working) fubar plugin that works with ace3 yet? |
| 18:33.48 | NeoTron | working == supporting config menu |
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| 18:34.01 | NeoTron | I assume that depends on aceconfig having a dropdown ui? |
| 18:34.03 | kergoth | libfubarplugin-3.0 works fine for omen, afaict |
| 18:34.06 | kergoth | it does |
| 18:34.09 | evl | uh? |
| 18:34.11 | Benumbed | kergoth, in blizzards...can you make it have dropdowns on the left side under that mod (example: like bars/text/icons do in dahud) |
| 18:34.12 | kergoth | personally i wouldnt want to configure things from fubar, but.. |
| 18:34.16 | kergoth | i dont like fubar plugins for config, so i'm biased |
| 18:34.17 | Stanzilla | that's Arrowmaster's branch, kergoth |
| 18:34.21 | evl | SPELL_CAST_START doesn't give a god damn destGUID? |
| 18:34.24 | evl | How useful is THAT |
| 18:34.26 | evl | cock blozz |
| 18:34.44 | durcyn | it gives destination data for your own casts only |
| 18:34.55 | kergoth | Benumbed: pretty sure you can nest categories below the subcategory level, you'd just specify the parent as such |
| 18:35.10 | kergoth | havent tried personally though |
| 18:35.17 | shieldb | NeoTron: with Magic Marker, does it ignore people in group6-8 and offline when determining available CC/tanks? |
| 18:35.45 | Benumbed | would be nice of an easy way to send /ace3 into blizzards |
| 18:35.57 | Benumbed | too lazy to change that when trying to do the buffs module now |
| 18:36.02 | kergoth | how exactly would you do that? |
| 18:36.11 | Benumbed | i dont know, why i said would be nice =x |
| 18:36.13 | kergoth | i'd be pretty pissed if it put every type=group into a subcategory |
| 18:36.54 | evl | durcyn: Yeah, before I used to do a spell alert when a player was the target of the cast |
| 18:37.19 | kergoth | Benumbed: i could see it being a new option, like inline=true is, but thatd be silly. if you'd have to change the code anyway, might as well do it yourself :P |
| 18:37.34 | Benumbed | yeah |
| 18:37.53 | Benumbed | why i was hoping for something to come out that would parse thru it and wouldnt need to recode mine |
| 18:37.57 | durcyn | evl: oh, i'm with you, i think it's total shit.. spells targetting the player should include player destguid imo |
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| 18:38.39 | Benumbed | that way it would work in either /ace3 or blizzards correctly |
| 18:39.45 | CIA-9 | 03barfolomeu * r67724 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (6 files): FlightHUD: Move to Ace3. Implement Blizzard addons option menu. |
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| 18:48.07 | NeoTron | shieldb: not as of yet |
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| 18:48.30 | NeoTron | I'll see if I can add that come this weekend |
| 18:48.50 | Yssaril | lua> string.match("Mana Tap creature: 0/6", '(%d+)/(%d+)') |
| 18:48.59 | NeoTron | kergoth: libfubarplugin has no menu |
| 18:49.08 | lua_bot | Yssaril: 0, 6 |
| 18:49.58 | NeoTron | kergoth: and it's hadny if you want to do something quickly |
| 18:50.06 | kergoth | true |
| 18:50.12 | NeoTron | not necessarily configuration but as an alternative way to do a command line thing for example |
| 18:50.33 | NeoTron | I have the MM templates and it's quicker to use the menyu than /mm tmpl decursers |
| 18:51.04 | kergoth | yeah, htat makes sense, its more an operation than a configuration. locking windows is another example of that kind of thing, or routes could use one to enable its waypoints support, or.. |
| 18:51.06 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:52.01 | kergoth | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibDropdown-1.0/LibDropdown-1.0/ looks interesting |
| 18:52.28 | Josh_Borke | your face looks interesting |
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| 18:52.51 | Amadeo | I wish someone would say that to me |
| 18:52.53 | kergoth | /eyeroll |
| 18:53.22 | Antiarc | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------LibDropdown is in development |
| 18:53.26 | Antiarc | Oh hey, look |
| 18:53.31 | Antiarc | I was on Vent with this window focused last night |
| 18:53.33 | Antiarc | Awesome |
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| 18:53.45 | durcyn | you use - for PTT? freak. |
| 18:53.49 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 18:54.49 | NeoTron | kergoth: eggsaktly |
| 18:55.07 | NeoTron | Antiarc: lol |
| 18:55.31 | NeoTron | kergoth: what I did now is to make a separate fubar addon that uses ace2 |
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| 18:55.45 | NeoTron | and that converts the ace3 style config structure to ace2/dewdrop |
| 18:55.47 | Amadeo | That's the same key I use for push to talk! |
| 18:55.50 | NeoTron | aka black magic |
| 18:57.58 | CIA-9 | 03barfolomeu * r67725 10FlightHUD/: FlightHUD: Move to Ace3. Implement Blizzard addons option menu. |
| 18:58.45 | chdst | I wish he'd stop updating...I can't get spaceballs out of my head. :\ |
| 18:58.50 | NeoTron | vhaarr: does nrt track properly in 2.4? |
| 18:58.52 | Primer | sorry |
| 18:59.19 | Primer | that's my main's name |
| 18:59.22 | chdst | heh |
| 18:59.50 | chdst | I'm just trying to get work done, and I keep laughing instead. I suppose there are worse problems to have :) |
| 19:00.20 | Primer | hehe |
| 19:00.59 | Amadeo | I'm so sick of those verification codes that you have to type in on sites to do things |
| 19:01.06 | Amadeo | You can't even read the letters most of the time |
| 19:01.23 | Chaud | I like when they make funny words =( |
| 19:01.45 | Primer | I don't suppose anyone would be willing to test that addon? |
| 19:01.50 | Primer | Works For Me⢠|
| 19:02.29 | Chaud | http://ironlab.org/files/gmailsignup.png |
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| 19:02.44 | Chaud | http://static.flickr.com/30/40721286_337d4748dc_m.jpg |
| 19:02.57 | Amadeo | lol |
| 19:03.05 | Chaud | http://www.scruffydan.com/blog/images/Dirty%20Google1.jpg |
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| 19:03.20 | Chaud | once in a long time you get an intresting one |
| 19:03.27 | Krobos | hi at all |
| 19:03.42 | Amadeo | hi at Krobos |
| 19:03.57 | Krobos | phyber? |
| 19:05.02 | Gnarfoz | has anyone made something like LootLink for spells/talents yet? |
| 19:05.18 | Krobos | does anyone if there's the ability to show the overall money in the fubar with monefu? |
| 19:05.27 | Krobos | +know |
| 19:05.40 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: MobSpells |
| 19:05.45 | Hjalte | Krobos: There is. |
| 19:05.56 | Zhinjio | Krobos: get auditorFu |
| 19:05.58 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: I thought that was for gathering mob spell IDs, like the name suggests? :> |
| 19:06.10 | CIA-9 | 03eblume * r67726 10Socialist/Socialist.lua: |
| 19:06.10 | CIA-9 | Socialist: |
| 19:06.10 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.10 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.35 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: It is, but it's lootlink-ish, isn't it? I mean, a database of spells vs a database of items :) |
| 19:06.36 | Primer | curse.com interstitials while editing my project! |
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| 19:06.39 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r67727 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: |
| 19:06.39 | CIA-9 | Omen: SingleTarget: |
| 19:06.39 | CIA-9 | - whacky updates for targettarget mode |
| 19:06.39 | CIA-9 | - fix "Show Self" |
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| 19:07.28 | Zhinjio | G'day Cairenn |
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| 19:07.35 | keiss | Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua:301 ... assertion fail (updated like 40 mins ago) |
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| 19:07.40 | CIA-9 | 03kergoth * r67728 10NShakedown/ (Addons/DaHud.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add DaHud support. |
| 19:07.50 | Zergreth | hi there, once again ;D |
| 19:08.01 | Zergreth | i wanted to ask a simple question, its not even a request, just a question |
| 19:08.15 | Zergreth | is there a way to apply the dreamlayout (BT3 has it) to the default buff frames? |
| 19:08.22 | nevcairiel | keiss: looks like a player uses a very old version |
| 19:08.37 | Drab|Work | Zergreth, cyCircled? |
| 19:09.02 | Zergreth | does cycircled affect the default buff frames? o.O |
| 19:09.03 | Drab|Work | I know w/ buffalo, cyCircled, and Bartender I could make my hotbar look like my buff icons, and vice versa. |
| 19:09.07 | keiss | so a newwer version breaks compatibility ? |
| 19:09.26 | Zergreth | theres already a dreamlayout addition for buffalo anyway |
| 19:09.31 | nevcairiel | keiss: yes .. run the version check in omen, it'll mark players that are incompatible |
| 19:09.33 | Zergreth | i want to apply it to the default buff frames |
| 19:09.52 | keiss | k ill do it later , i have omen off and in raid atm :) |
| 19:09.55 | Hjalte | http://www.eegra.com/show/sub/do/browse/cat/comics/id/17 I love this comic :) |
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| 19:10.25 | Zhinjio | whats the name of the cooldown counter thinger again? OmniCC? |
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| 19:10.53 | Zergreth | omnicc, yep |
| 19:11.00 | Zergreth | but there are many alternatives of course |
| 19:11.17 | Zergreth | but i like omnicc best |
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| 19:11.18 | Zergreth | it rocks |
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| 19:11.44 | Zhinjio | that one's not on WAU. |
| 19:11.44 | Zergreth | its not an ace addon |
| 19:11.44 | Zergreth | nice netsplit |
| 19:11.48 | Zergreth | check wowi or curse |
| 19:11.56 | Zhinjio | ah, another one by Tuller. cool |
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| 19:12.30 | durcyn | who cares if it's an ace addon, it works. if you've a hardon for updates, just check it out from tullamods.googlecode.com |
| 19:12.35 | Krobos | did anybody answer my question? ^^ |
| 19:12.41 | Zhinjio | thats where I am. |
| 19:12.56 | Zhinjio | and I don't care. Just couldn't get it through one tool. |
| 19:12.59 | Zhinjio | relax durcyn |
| 19:13.04 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: obviously, to form a list, you'd just have to iterate from 1 to 50000 or whatever, I was actually looking for clickability and browseability of a list, specifically |
| 19:13.18 | Krobos | phyber? |
| 19:13.25 | phyber | Krobos: there isn't at the moment. |
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| 19:13.48 | Krobos | k, thank you. could you implement something like that? |
| 19:13.51 | Zergreth | durcyn, wasnt my point, i personally dont care if an addon is made with ace, rock, other frameworks or no framework at all |
| 19:14.00 | Zergreth | anyway, my question wasnt answered yet |
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| 19:14.20 | Zergreth | can one somehow apply the dreamlayout to the DEFAULT buff frames? |
| 19:14.31 | Krobos | it's the only thing i'm missing :) |
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| 19:14.49 | phyber | stabs all of the Threat updates |
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| 19:14.54 | phyber | people not updating breaking my shit |
| 19:15.22 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.26 | Industrial | not beta code |
| 19:15.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial |
| 19:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | a broken version is not stable |
| 19:15.36 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht |
| 19:15.50 | Industrial | so dont use a broken version |
| 19:17.08 | Industrial | wait until it is stable |
| 19:17.08 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.08 | Industrial | OR test |
| 19:17.08 | Antiarc | Annoy them till they update |
| 19:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: "I WON'T UPDATE PLAY BY FEELING" |
| 19:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 19:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking stupid idiot tanks |
| 19:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and no i can't just kick them |
| 19:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 19:17.08 | baer_ | btw, what's "Socialist" ? |
| 19:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Socialist |
| 19:17.08 | Industrial | wikipedia ftw, baer_ |
| 19:17.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ~define Socialist |
| 19:17.10 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 19:17.10 | CIA-10 | 03cossy * r67729 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.deDE.lua: |
| 19:17.10 | CIA-10 | FuBar_FriendsFu |
| 19:17.10 | CIA-10 | - added deDE new gender based class names |
| 19:17.10 | Zergreth | btw, is there a release date for the next stable version of xparky? |
| 19:17.10 | phyber | Industrial: couldn't really test before that. that freezing was the test. it was fine on trash, fucked up on Kalecgos :/ |
| 19:17.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ~dict Socialist |
| 19:17.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 19:17.10 | sag_ich_nicht | purl is borked |
| 19:17.11 | baer_ | Industrial: i'm not talking about "a socialist" in common, but about the addon "socialist" |
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| 19:17.49 | Industrial | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Socialist/README |
| 19:17.55 | Industrial | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Socialist/Socialist.toc |
| 19:18.05 | Industrial | took me 20 secs |
| 19:18.25 | Amadeo | what is it that people take to make money, Mining/Herbalism or Mining/Skinning? |
| 19:18.27 | _rane | i need some addon that i can use to toggle between two sets of weapons using one hotkey, any suggestions |
| 19:18.48 | Industrial | mining/skinning |
| 19:18.59 | Industrial | mining/herbalism is clumsy due to having to change tracking |
| 19:19.13 | Industrial | skinning makes you nice money while leveling |
| 19:19.35 | Amadeo | ok! |
| 19:19.47 | _rane | don't forget you can make money with non-gathering professions as well.. |
| 19:20.04 | NeoTron | jewelcrafting ftw |
| 19:20.15 | baer_ | At this time, Socialist *does not work*. It will not interfere with your game... it simply will not function. |
| 19:20.15 | baer_ | Stay tuned for more information! |
| 19:20.19 | baer_ | great. :D |
| 19:20.20 | NeoTron | once a debt is paid back I'll be around 19k gold |
| 19:20.53 | Amadeo | _rane: Sounds like it takes more work! |
| 19:21.27 | Zergreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.17 | kergoth | damn nshakedown is shittin gitself due to all the addon changes |
| 19:22.21 | Wyanna | sorry I keep asking this - anyone got a tip or link to docs so I can get up to speed on implementing a UI in the new 2.4 options dialog? My mod works great on slash commands and I need to just write a configuration UI for it |
| 19:22.48 | Antiarc | Wyanna: Are you using Ace2 or Ace3? |
| 19:23.11 | Wyanna | no just straight lua atm but I would consider implementing either if it will make it much easier |
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| 19:23.25 | Wyanna | I figured it'd be better to learn from scratch first but I think I have the basic idea now |
| 19:23.48 | Antiarc | You're completely right there :) |
| 19:23.55 | Wyanna | (first mod ever) |
| 19:24.27 | Antiarc | A config options GUI consists of creating a frame, attaching widgets to the frame that interact with your options, then registering that frame with the Blizz options panel |
| 19:24.34 | Antiarc | It's a LOT of work if you do it from scratch. |
| 19:24.43 | Wyanna | ok |
| 19:25.03 | Wyanna | I've been looking at a guide to create a frame via hand coding in XML |
| 19:25.10 | Zergreth | coding config GUIs are a pain in the ass |
| 19:25.15 | Wyanna | is that going to be a waste if I just learn that first? |
| 19:25.19 | Zergreth | should stick to slashcommands or dropdowns |
| 19:25.24 | Antiarc | XML's good for learning how frames are layed out, but once you get used to it you'll probably want to write them in Lua instead. |
| 19:25.30 | Wyanna | ok |
| 19:25.32 | Antiarc | You should learn how to create frames either way at some point |
| 19:25.37 | Antiarc | Config frames just happen to be a beast. |
| 19:25.40 | Wyanna | hehe |
| 19:25.52 | Zergreth | as much as i like to config addons via gui, yes they are |
| 19:25.53 | Zergreth | D: |
| 19:25.57 | _rane | i need some addon that i can use to toggle between two sets of weapons using _one hotkey_, any suggestions? |
| 19:26.05 | Wyanna | ok thanks folks |
| 19:26.14 | Antiarc | If you want, pastey your slash command handlers/the stuff you're handling, and I can make suggestions as to how to implement that via Ace3's options, which gets you the Blizz interface options for free. |
| 19:26.22 | Wyanna | Look for Diff'rent Strokes addon coming to a mod site near you |
| 19:26.25 | Wyanna | lol |
| 19:27.05 | Wyanna | hmm ok then |
| 19:27.07 | Wyanna | right here? |
| 19:27.14 | Antiarc | ace.pastey.net |
| 19:27.18 | Wyanna | ok |
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| 19:29.16 | Wyanna | http://ace.pastey.net/84972 is my command line handler |
| 19:29.24 | Wyanna | er... slash command handler |
| 19:30.57 | Wyanna | so the mod tracks mouse invert setting and UI scale per acct |
| 19:31.18 | baer_ | did anything change with the reset times on EU servers? |
| 19:31.26 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r67730 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: fix slight bug when showSelf is turned off |
| 19:31.29 | Wyanna | My GF and I play on the same computers and she likes a different setting than I do and this mod will save it and set it when we log in so we don't have to argue about it anymore |
| 19:31.38 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis or ckknight : Is it possible to have the "Blank Space" piece of pitbull have a color/texture? |
| 19:33.15 | Zhinjio | nm, I figured it out. Meh. |
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| 19:37.42 | Wyanna | Anyway I appreciate the thoughts Antiarc - I'll get started on a UI - the mod is in a half-working state at the moment. For now I need to get better at persisting vars between sessions and I'm probably doing that in a dopey way too - oh well. It's all a learning process. |
| 19:38.05 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth * r67731 10NShakedown/Addons/ (Afflicted.lua Omen.lua): NShakedown: fix Afflicted and Omen support. |
| 19:38.06 | Wyanna | not using AceDB or anything, just declaring my var in the toc |
| 19:38.30 | Antiarc | Wyanna: AceDB makes that a ton easier, though learning how to do it the basic way is valuable :) |
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| 19:39.15 | Wyanna | yeah this is only my third language and since I'm a VB programmer (lol) I'm stuck in a world of pain learning LUA |
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| 19:39.54 | Zergreth | anybody know a good alternative for auctioneer not eating so much fucking memory? |
| 19:40.02 | Swimnurd | only load it on your auction mule |
| 19:40.11 | Zergreth | i have no auction mule ;D |
| 19:40.17 | [eu]gunder | Zergreth: pen and paper then |
| 19:40.21 | Zergreth | well |
| 19:40.26 | Swimnurd | make an auction mule |
| 19:40.28 | Swimnurd | :-P |
| 19:40.30 | Zergreth | my reason to use auctioneer is pretty poor |
| 19:40.40 | Zergreth | so im sure there is an alternative |
| 19:40.52 | Wyanna | make one. the 30c you spend to mail something is paid many times over by not having your inventory full and having room to loot grays |
| 19:40.52 | Zergreth | im using auctioneer just for the reason of the changed interface to put up a new auction |
| 19:41.11 | Zergreth | all i need are the changed positions of the buyout prices and the "remember price" thing, which shouldnt eat too much |
| 19:41.19 | Zergreth | the other stuff i dont need |
| 19:41.36 | zapl | if you just need average prices you could try wowecon |
| 19:41.46 | Zergreth | wowecon eats 20mb on average |
| 19:41.54 | Zergreth | i dont need any average stuff |
| 19:42.02 | zapl | if you just want the interface disable the parts of auctioneer you dont want |
| 19:42.09 | Swimnurd | Zergreth, whats wrong with only loading it when you need to use the AH |
| 19:42.13 | Zergreth | by changed buyout position i was talking about the buyout price field being directly below the bid price field when putting up a new auction |
| 19:42.39 | Zergreth | i use the ah pretty often, so its loaded up almost all the time o.O |
| 19:42.46 | genetik | Zergreth: i use Fence for remembering prices |
| 19:43.07 | Zergreth | is that on wowace? |
| 19:43.10 | genetik | yes |
| 19:43.12 | Zergreth | alright |
| 19:43.15 | Zergreth | will try that, thanks |
| 19:43.28 | kenlyric | auctioneer's new batch posting is of an epic quality |
| 19:43.34 | kenlyric | how did I not try this out before? |
| 19:43.53 | kergoth | Zergreth: if you want auctioneer's features, you need auc. and aucadv doesnt use shit for resources when you arent at the AH, just enough for the stat modules so you have item prices in the tooltips |
| 19:43.57 | zapl | it fails if you have a lot of random stuff to sell |
| 19:44.29 | Zergreth | i dont need all the auction features, i dont use the ah to increase my money like a squirrel on crack |
| 19:44.44 | zapl | but that appraiser thing is great |
| 19:44.44 | genetik | Zergreth: Fence also prints out per unit price on stacked items in search results |
| 19:44.55 | Zergreth | i just want some minor UI changes auctioneer classic offers, and that "remember price" thing so i dont have to rewrite it when im putting 20 stacks of cloth up |
| 19:45.12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:45.15 | Zergreth | genetik, perfect! i have that in a seperate addon right now |
| 19:45.15 | kergoth | i know i saw an addon for that |
| 19:45.20 | kergoth | not sure wha ti twas called though |
| 19:45.20 | Zergreth | will try fence out in a second |
| 19:45.22 | Zergreth | sounds promising |
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| 19:47.34 | kergoth | Zergreth: found it |
| 19:47.36 | kergoth | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/8475/ |
| 19:47.38 | kergoth | check that out |
| 19:47.49 | Jesse__ | did clearfont change some of the fonts they use or something, recently? |
| 19:48.33 | Jesse__ | anyone know? |
| 19:49.15 | Zergreth | holy cow |
| 19:49.19 | Zergreth | looks weird, kergoth |
| 19:49.24 | Zergreth | and not really what i was looking for |
| 19:49.26 | Zergreth | but thanks ;D |
| 19:49.58 | kergoth | that looks exactly like auctioneer advanced's browse ui |
| 19:50.01 | kergoth | so dunno what you mean |
| 19:50.03 | kergoth | but suit yourself |
| 19:50.30 | shieldb | Jesse__: not as far as I've heard, but there's that weird bug where a reloadui breaks all your fonts in chat |
| 19:50.35 | Zergreth | auctioneer advanced was the one i didnt want ;D |
| 19:50.40 | Wyanna | Quick Q regarding a variable name defined in the toc |
| 19:50.43 | Jesse__ | well the problem i'm having is weird... |
| 19:50.44 | Zergreth | <Zergreth> i just want some minor UI changes auctioneer classic offers, and that "remember price" thing so i dont have to rewrite it when im putting 20 stacks of cloth up |
| 19:50.52 | Wyanna | This is in my toc: ## SavedVariables: DiffStrokesVars |
| 19:50.57 | Zergreth | remember price i have no, thanks to fence |
| 19:51.02 | kergoth | oh, classic |
| 19:51.03 | Wyanna | and this function is in my LUA |
| 19:51.03 | Zergreth | thanks genetik ;D |
| 19:51.04 | Wyanna | http://ace.pastey.net/84974 |
| 19:51.14 | CIA-10 | 03antiarc * r67732 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Bump version checks to 40 people. Addresses OMEN-25 |
| 19:51.16 | kergoth | i don't see why you'd want to only see 8 items at a time, seems awfully limiting |
| 19:51.17 | Jesse__ | I use TwCentMT...prat and pitbull are the what i want it to be, but everything else although selected to that font are different |
| 19:51.18 | genetik | Zergreth: no prob. that's one of the addons that's on my "can't live without" list |
| 19:51.20 | Zergreth | and the UI change classic does i think i dont need |
| 19:51.21 | genetik | heh |
| 19:51.32 | kergoth | TwCentMT is pretty nice, especially for small sizes |
| 19:51.36 | Wyanna | did I not define that function properly? I think it wants an = in there somewhere when I call it and that doesn't make sense to me |
| 19:51.39 | kergoth | most of the fonts in sharedmedia look like ass at like 8-11 |
| 19:51.41 | kergoth | sadly |
| 19:51.47 | Zergreth | well, kergoth |
| 19:51.53 | Jesse__ | yeah, but after the patch yesterday, everything but prat and pitbull are some new font |
| 19:51.53 | Zergreth | i dont care about the main ui either |
| 19:51.59 | Zergreth | just the one to put up auctions |
| 19:52.03 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:52.04 | Jesse__ | even the space that i type in for the chat window, is a different font then the chat window lol |
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| 19:52.10 | Zergreth | i liked to have the bid and buyout price edit boxes next to each other |
| 19:52.13 | Zergreth | auctioneer classic did that |
| 19:52.18 | Zergreth | well, not next to |
| 19:52.22 | Zergreth | but buyout was below bid |
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| 19:52.45 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth * r67733 10NShakedown/Addons/WitchHunt.lua: NShakedown: Fix WitchHunt support. |
| 19:52.50 | Zhinjio | Wyanna: don't need ()'s around the return value |
| 19:53.07 | Zergreth | i might be wrong, but didnt sellfish showed the item level in item tooltips sometimes? |
| 19:53.16 | Zergreth | i just reenabled it, doesnt seem to do so |
| 19:53.26 | Wyanna | Zhinjio - I tried it both with and without the () |
| 19:53.30 | Wyanna | would that make a difference? |
| 19:53.35 | Zhinjio | nah. |
| 19:53.41 | Wyanna | I was getting an error where it wanted a = |
| 19:53.46 | Zhinjio | did you assign that value somewhere? |
| 19:53.59 | NeoTron | man the lolcats blizz forum stuff is really messing up progression posts and stuff |
| 19:54.00 | Zhinjio | DiffStrokesVars[1]? |
| 19:54.07 | Wyanna | in my toc |
| 19:54.15 | Wyanna | it's defined as a saved variable |
| 19:54.26 | Wyanna | ## SavedVariables: DiffStrokesVars |
| 19:54.29 | Zhinjio | no, you're misunderstanding |
| 19:54.34 | Zhinjio | did you ever give it a value |
| 19:54.40 | Wyanna | hah yes I am misunderstand |
| 19:54.42 | Zergreth | genetik, any other "can't live without" addons you want to recommend? ;P |
| 19:54.43 | Zhinjio | by default DiffStrokesVars is going to be {} |
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| 19:54.52 | Zhinjio | with nothing in it |
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| 19:54.59 | Zhinjio | did you ever assign it a value? |
| 19:55.31 | NeoTron | and of course as I posted that they have removed it |
| 19:55.39 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth * r67734 10NShakedown/Addons/Omen.lua: NShakedown: properly clear the bars for Omen when we're done, so we don't leave it full of test bars. |
| 19:55.44 | Silviu- | Antiarc btw, u are not logged in i don`t see your pm :D |
| 19:56.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 19:56.05 | Silviu- | *smile* |
| 19:56.45 | Wyanna | 1 sec Z... :-) |
| 19:58.07 | Wyanna | got a server down at work QQ |
| 19:58.20 | zapl | someone needs to convert the clearfont_additional_fonts thing to use lsm so the fonts are usable again |
| 19:59.49 | zapl | nvm it is updated -.- |
| 20:00.57 | Wyanna | I updated my pastey with my Addon_Loaded handler |
| 20:00.58 | Wyanna | http://ace.pastey.net/84975 |
| 20:01.22 | Wyanna | so I defined the variable in the toc file and theoretically I'm setting it up in the addonloaded but I'm probably doing it like a retard |
| 20:02.23 | genetik | Zergreth: JumpCounter. |
| 20:02.25 | genetik | heh |
| 20:02.31 | Zergreth | hehe |
| 20:02.40 | Zergreth | well, thats a bit TOO useless i think |
| 20:02.40 | Zergreth | ;D |
| 20:02.45 | genetik | disagree |
| 20:02.49 | genetik | <- gnome |
| 20:03.05 | zapl | its great. had like 100k jumps the last time i looked |
| 20:03.18 | genetik | lemme see where i'm at right now.. i'm getting close to 200k |
| 20:03.19 | genetik | i think |
| 20:03.31 | genetik | since i started using it in december or so |
| 20:03.57 | zapl | i think i should bind some more keys to jump so i can beat you :p |
| 20:04.02 | Zergreth | ._. |
| 20:04.04 | genetik | 158,620 |
| 20:04.12 | Zergreth | bind rightlclick to jump, im sure its fun |
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| 20:05.01 | Yssaril_ | lua> string.match("Mana Tap creature: 0/6", '[%w%s]:%s(%d+)/(%d+)') |
| 20:05.02 | lua_bot | Yssaril_: 0, 6 |
| 20:05.25 | Wyanna | Zhinjio - you have a sec to peek at that pastey? thanks for the help. http://ace.pastey.net/84975 |
| 20:05.54 | Zergreth | somebody give/show me an addon that shows the item level in the item tooltips |
| 20:06.05 | kenlyric | actually, just get Historian |
| 20:06.07 | Zergreth | i couldnt find anything useful |
| 20:06.13 | kenlyric | it's like jumpcounter + 100 other useless facts |
| 20:06.14 | pastamancer | ratingbuster? |
| 20:06.14 | Zhinjio | Wyanna: that nil check won't work. |
| 20:06.15 | Wyanna | informant will (part of auctioneer) |
| 20:06.27 | Zergreth | Wyanna, i just got rid of it ;D |
| 20:06.29 | Wyanna | I figured it couldn't be that easy |
| 20:06.34 | kenlyric | ratingsbuster will also show itemlevel |
| 20:06.38 | Antiarc | Wyanna: http://ace.pastey.net/84977 |
| 20:06.40 | kenlyric | as will mendeleev |
| 20:06.41 | Zergreth | it eats too much memory, vendor price and itemlevel is the only thing i need from informant |
| 20:06.45 | dylanm | If you just want ilevel get http://git.tekkub.net/tekilevel/commit/ |
| 20:06.46 | Antiarc | That's the Ace3'd version of your options |
| 20:06.56 | kenlyric | and alsoe tooltipItemInfo |
| 20:07.01 | Antiarc | Which gets you slash commands, a GUI dialog, and the ability to inject it into the Blizzard options if you want to |
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| 20:07.09 | Wyanna | haha |
| 20:07.18 | Wyanna | you just aced my mod! 0.o |
| 20:07.20 | kenlyric | you really shouldn't live without ratingsbuster. Just get that |
| 20:07.35 | Zergreth | dylanm, thanks, will give that one a try |
| 20:07.39 | Zhinjio | lua> blort = {}; if ( blort == nil ) then print("foo") else print("bar") end |
| 20:07.39 | lua_bot | Zhinjio: bar |
| 20:07.40 | genetik | Zergreth: oh.. Spellbinder, i can't live without |
| 20:07.45 | Zergreth | genetik, got already |
| 20:07.46 | Zergreth | :D |
| 20:07.59 | Zhinjio | however... |
| 20:08.15 | Zhinjio | lua> blort = {}; if ( next(blort) == nil ) then print("foo") else print("bar") end |
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| 20:08.15 | lua_bot | Zhinjio: foo |
| 20:08.25 | Zhinjio | ^^ that does work |
| 20:08.47 | Wyanna | iiiinteresting |
| 20:08.50 | Wyanna | so what does the next do? |
| 20:09.05 | Zhinjio | returns the next "key" |
| 20:09.08 | Antiarc | next(blort) == nil tests to see if a dictionary is empty |
| 20:09.10 | Zhinjio | if there are no keys, it returns nil |
| 20:09.11 | Antiarc | Or rather, |
| 20:09.14 | Wyanna | ok |
| 20:09.15 | Antiarc | If you're at the end of the dictionary |
| 20:09.15 | Zhinjio | right |
| 20:09.20 | Wyanna | got it |
| 20:09.25 | Zhinjio | what he said |
| 20:09.27 | Zhinjio | <-- nub |
| 20:09.30 | Zhinjio | (mostly) |
| 20:09.42 | Wyanna | is there an invisible pointer on the "first" element of the table so next pushes it past that if I haven't played with it yet? |
| 20:10.00 | pastamancer | Antiarc: unlike php, there's no internal pointer, so next(foo, nil) always checks the "first" element of foo |
| 20:10.17 | pastamancer | next(foo, bar) will find the element "after" bar |
| 20:10.18 | Antiarc | Huh. That I didn't know. |
| 20:10.41 | Wyanna | sounds like it's time for a group hug |
| 20:10.52 | Wyanna | thanks folks for getting me going on this |
| 20:11.00 | Zergreth | time for me to leave you ;D |
| 20:11.03 | Zergreth | thanks for the help |
| 20:11.06 | Zergreth | and see ya later |
| 20:13.29 | CIA-10 | 03ackis * r67735 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 20:13.29 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2: |
| 20:13.29 | CIA-10 | - frFR update |
| 20:15.37 | CIA-10 | 03ackis * r67736 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua: |
| 20:15.37 | CIA-10 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:15.37 | CIA-10 | - Converted more items to Spell IDs |
| 20:16.10 | Wyanna | oh and I fixed my other problem (retarded) spelled function with a capital F and it thought I was declaring a variable or something and wanted a = |
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| 20:19.17 | Wyanna | if I have declared a variable like this in my toc: ## SavedVariables: DiffStrokesVars |
| 20:19.26 | Wyanna | Do I also have to declare it as a local in my lua? |
| 20:19.30 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis or ckknight : is the "8 columns" for buffs/debuffs not settable or anything? |
| 20:19.37 | Wyanna | like local DiffStrokesVars = {} |
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| 20:19.52 | Zhinjio | actually. hmm. |
| 20:19.57 | zapl | ca |
| 20:20.05 | Zhinjio | its just filling some sort of available space that it has calculated.... |
| 20:20.15 | CIA-10 | 03saroz * r67737 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix buff filter |
| 20:20.27 | Zhinjio | aha! got it. |
| 20:20.32 | zapl | Cyn: hope it was you.. :D : you ui uses a very nice small font. what is it called? |
| 20:21.32 | Zhinjio | I think everyone needs more Daft Punk in their lives. |
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| 20:23.20 | Osstia | howdy everyone |
| 20:23.23 | Yssaril | what do you think http://ace.pastey.net/84979 <-- creates a table of your questlog with everythink that it needs to regenerate it later http://ace.pastey.net/84978 <-- is my test questlog run thru the function anyone notice anything where i can compress it down some more? |
| 20:25.46 | zapl | compress table data? |
| 20:28.00 | Wyanna | Yssaril - I'm still learning LUA but it seems that the code where you loop thru the Choices and rewards is identical |
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| 20:28.22 | Wyanna | could you create a function and just pass the current reward or choice as an argument/ |
| 20:28.35 | Gelo | oUF -- I can't target or right click for menu on party members :/ |
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| 20:28.37 | Wyanna | not sure if that would make things better or worse but it's a though |
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| 20:29.12 | Wyanna | could make bug fixing easier to not have duplicated code but I don't know if it would really help anything |
| 20:29.19 | Yssaril | Wyanna, would be an extra function call and would have no if not worse impact on execution speed |
| 20:30.27 | Wyanna | yeah that's what I was thinking too - just musing on it - I tend to write more for maintainability than raw performance and so that was what jumped to mind for me |
| 20:30.38 | Wyanna | how often will this loop be kicked off? |
| 20:30.58 | Yssaril | not too often but still :P |
| 20:31.12 | Wyanna | if it's not more than every few seconds it probably isn't worth killing yourself over then haha :-) |
| 20:31.18 | Yssaril | currently takes .006 sec to run once with 5 quests :P |
| 20:31.40 | Wyanna | hehe tell people your mod only runs on Pentium 3 or higher |
| 20:31.57 | zapl | "buy a 486 :)" |
| 20:32.27 | Yssaril | Wyanna, yep just a pet peve am just really concerened abotu the table size it creates cause i will end up serializing and sending it to others (and don't want to waste any bandwidth) |
| 20:32.42 | Wyanna | ah well then that's definitely a concern |
| 20:32.48 | Funkeh` | lol at blizz |
| 20:32.49 | Wyanna | maybe there's a ziplib or somehting? |
| 20:32.54 | Funkeh` | they fixed combat log scrolling on zoning |
| 20:32.58 | Funkeh` | not on ui reloading |
| 20:33.00 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 20:33.13 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 20:33.30 | Yssaril | Wyanna, havent found one yet |
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| 20:33.55 | Osstia | has anyone seen anything done with A seperate Daily Quest log? |
| 20:34.14 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: you cant "fix" it on ui reload, unless you dont want any log anymore, but thats a feature :P |
| 20:34.15 | Wyanna | is there any way you can get rid of the comments? Also if you're intending on sending this data across the network I'm not sure if you're willing to cut down on the names of your fields and possibly abbreviate quest text |
| 20:34.39 | Wyanna | like LB instead of LeaderBoard |
| 20:34.52 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, maybe ;p |
| 20:35.00 | Wyanna | and maybe only first 128 chars or less of quest text if it'd retrievable client-side |
| 20:35.06 | Wyanna | *it's |
| 20:35.07 | zapl | Yssaril: instead of OwnRepo[i] = OwnRepo[i] or {} just = {} maybe. you create all the data anyway |
| 20:35.07 | Yssaril | Wyanna, yea the keys will definatly be shortanded just have them long for easy coding :) |
| 20:35.07 | hypetech | If I download KA_RaidTracker will it mess with my CT_RaidTracker or can they run side by side? |
| 20:35.57 | Wyanna | w00t |
| 20:36.10 | Wyanna | should get back to my own dopey mod haha |
| 20:36.58 | Yssaril | zapl, that would toss out the table evertime i rescan with the or it will create a new table if there isnt one and if there is it will start overwriting all the data and nil out anything that is extra |
| 20:38.00 | Antiarc | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Howling_Fjord&oldid=1291799 |
| 20:38.13 | CIA-10 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r67738 10AlarModules/AlarAutomation/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:38.13 | CIA-10 | AlarAutomation |
| 20:38.13 | CIA-10 | Moving to Ace3 |
| 20:38.37 | zapl | hmm kay |
| 20:38.57 | mop_ | What language can I have that works on both factions? SendChatMessage(text, "WHISPER", xxx, target) |
| 20:39.04 | Antiarc | nil |
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| 20:39.55 | Wyanna | this line of code isn't working: if (next(DiffStrokesVars) == nil) then |
| 20:40.10 | Wyanna | someone suggested next would work for me but it bombs and says it's nill |
| 20:40.14 | Wyanna | which is what I want to check for |
| 20:40.20 | Wyanna | any thoughts? |
| 20:41.06 | Zhinjio | then it sounds like it is nil |
| 20:41.14 | Zhinjio | have you reloaded and checked your SV file? |
| 20:41.23 | Wyanna | yeah |
| 20:41.25 | Wyanna | it's nil |
| 20:41.31 | Zhinjio | then its working |
| 20:41.33 | Zhinjio | *grin* |
| 20:41.34 | Wyanna | hehe |
| 20:41.36 | mop_ | Is there a way to send to current active 'channel' Antiarc ? As in, the 'channel' it will send to when pressing enter? |
| 20:41.39 | Wyanna | well it's bombing |
| 20:41.44 | Wyanna | I want it to return true |
| 20:41.45 | Zhinjio | whats the error? |
| 20:41.49 | Wyanna | and instead it's generating an error |
| 20:42.06 | zapl | Yssaril: biggest data is the description text. so some kind of wierd text compression would be what should save the most bandwidth. but is sending such stuff with new questlinks still needed? |
| 20:42.08 | Antiarc | mop_: I'm sure there is, but I don't know it off the top of my head |
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| 20:42.17 | Wyanna | bad argument #1 to next expected table got nil |
| 20:42.17 | mop_ | bah :( |
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| 20:42.34 | mop_ | it always defaults to say with SendChatMessage |
| 20:42.38 | Skyflake | Guys. Anyone know if there is a updated version of NECB (Natur Enemy Cast Bar) |
| 20:42.42 | Skyflake | ? |
| 20:42.51 | Aeyan | I think so |
| 20:43.12 | Zhinjio | that means your DiffStrokesVars thinger isn't extant at all. |
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| 20:43.19 | Skyflake | Curse says 2 weeks ago. And I cant find it in the ace updater. Got the version from Curse and it doesnt work. |
| 20:43.27 | Yssaril | zapl, yea the link gives you the objective text but not the description text |
| 20:44.03 | zapl | nobody reads that part :) |
| 20:44.26 | Wyanna | yeah so I defined it in my toc - do I need to define at the top of my lua file too? |
| 20:44.35 | Wyanna | like local DiffStrokesVars = {} |
| 20:44.44 | hypetech | If I download KA_RaidTracker will it mess with my CT_RaidTracker or can they run side by side? |
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| 20:44.53 | Yssaril | zapl, hehe should still included it (i already put in a function that will not record it if you chose not to) will default to record though |
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| 20:45.42 | zapl | whats the addon supposed to do? me likes questmods :) |
| 20:45.56 | Yssaril | Wyanna, if it is defined in your toc (savedvar i assume) do not make it a local anywhere cause that wont save it then :P |
| 20:46.13 | Wyanna | yeah that's what I figured |
| 20:46.32 | Wyanna | so the problem is it's in my toc as a saved var but it doesn't seem that it's accessible in my lua for somereason |
| 20:46.34 | Zhinjio | Wyanna: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
| 20:46.36 | Wyanna | I'm assuming I'm just dumb |
| 20:46.42 | Wyanna | thanks I'll just reread that |
| 20:47.01 | Yssaril | zapl, will be a quest log sharing addon where i can basically request a questlog from someone also using the mod so i can see exactly which once they are on and what their progress is |
| 20:47.19 | Wyanna | I'm sure I'm doing something funky |
| 20:47.42 | Yssaril | zapl, there way its going atm it might just end up replacing the blizz quest log completely |
| 20:47.46 | Zhinjio | make sure you're waiting until VARIABLES_LOADED has been fired before playing with the SV |
| 20:48.25 | Osstia | I just want a Daily Quest Log. So I can keep them seperate. i wish blizz would just do that. |
| 20:48.40 | Yssaril | Wyanna, and if you use the sv var alot i would recomend localing it like this |
| 20:49.18 | zapl | Yssaril: requesting information like that will give interesting results if people use different locales |
| 20:49.23 | Yssaril | local localsv and then after VARIABLES_LOADE is fired call localsv = mysvdeclardinthetoc |
| 20:50.14 | Yssaril | zapl, yep /cry most of the things i can take the text out of but some i am still stuck using the original locale |
| 20:50.59 | Yssaril | zapl, any item reqards i can get links for only reward i cant is spell rewards |
| 20:51.28 | Yssaril | other than that aside from the header and the description i can use the game to localize for me |
| 20:52.08 | Yssaril | <--- i hit return to much when i chat :P |
| 20:52.35 | Wyanna | Aha! I think that's the prob |
| 20:52.46 | Wyanna | I'm working with the SV in the Addonloaded handler |
| 20:52.49 | Wyanna | it doesn't exist yet |
| 20:53.08 | Yssaril | hehe yea you got to wait for the varloaded event |
| 20:53.18 | zapl | hrhr, header and description are most of the text, so dont group with ppl using say french clients |
| 20:53.24 | Yssaril | if you use ace the OnEnable function will work too |
| 20:53.27 | Wyanna | ok I'll just move that code |
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| 20:53.54 | Wyanna | is OnEnable called after the UI is presented to the player? |
| 20:54.08 | spiderella | Are there any good death tracking mods working in 2.4? |
| 20:54.09 | Wyanna | my mod autosets UIscale and I'd rather not have it "jump" |
| 20:54.23 | Yssaril | Wyanna, nope |
| 20:54.27 | CIA-10 | 03kagaro * r67739 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: fixed reparent issues with PitBull and Fubar |
| 20:54.41 | Wyanna | ok I'll look at that as another option - many thanks |
| 20:55.23 | Yssaril | zapl, lol currently it will just present them with the original header/description everything else should be localized |
| 20:57.50 | zapl | Yssaril: and the most tricky but most needed functionality for questsharing addons is the part that tells you wich quests are already complete or are followups |
| 20:57.55 | mop_ | does string.upper work? |
| 20:58.39 | Ozguli | hmm... I didn't get any kind of warning from omen before getting pwned by trash |
| 20:59.00 | Ozguli | have to update more often |
| 20:59.03 | zapl | Yssaril: like when you group with someone the addon tells you stuff like: if you complete quest a then you can do b together. but not c because the other one has already finished that part |
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| 20:59.51 | zapl | Yssaril: stupid blizz quest links dont tell you if you have completed a quest :( |
| 21:00.30 | Yssaril | zapl, only tells you if you are currently on it |
| 21:01.04 | zapl | wich you can already see in default questlog |
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| 21:01.16 | Yssaril | yep |
| 21:01.48 | Polarina | zapl: Post it to the suggestion forum. :) |
| 21:01.49 | Wyanna | they really need to implement a quest API and tie it in with LFG |
| 21:02.02 | Wyanna | so we can have a decent LFG tool for once |
| 21:02.26 | zapl | afaik.. i have only access to eu forum and nobody of importance ever reads that one |
| 21:02.42 | Polarina | zapl: Same here. |
| 21:02.52 | mop_ | Does anyone know of an up-to-date tutorial of how to create a simple GUI for an addon? |
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| 21:03.26 | zapl | mop_: read through simple addons source using a gui that you like |
| 21:03.54 | mop_ | I need something so simple that I dont think any addons i know have a GUI like it |
| 21:03.56 | Wyanna | mop_ not sure how up to date this is, but this link got me started with the mod I'm writing now |
| 21:03.57 | Wyanna | http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 21:04.46 | Hobby-home | wow lockup on exit is back with 2.4.1 :( |
| 21:04.58 | watchoutX | does anyone know when "UPDATE_CHAT_WINDOWS" is called in the wow loading process? |
| 21:06.00 | Polarina | Hobby-home: Wine? Which version? |
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| 21:07.04 | Hobby-home | nope, windows |
| 21:07.15 | watchoutX | Hobby-home, I thought they fixed it - at least that's what the patchlog said |
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| 21:07.33 | Hobby-home | 2.4 worked after updating astrolabe |
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| 21:07.39 | zapl | watchoutX: "Fired when there's a reason to update the chat windows." from http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Communication :) |
| 21:07.40 | Hobby-home | 2.4.1 gives me issues :( |
| 21:08.16 | watchoutX | zapl, yeah, I know that, but I have to know when that's the case during the loading process |
| 21:09.42 | Polarina | Hobby-home: I know of a method to guarantee an successful "crashing" exit. (I wouldn't recommend it). |
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| 21:10.25 | watchoutX | Hobby-home, uh, whats astrolabe? :) |
| 21:10.47 | zapl | watchoutX: there are mods out there that output all events fired. maybe using such a thing would help you figure it out |
| 21:12.03 | Ozguli | BigWigs missing half of the boss warnings oneoneEleven! |
| 21:12.05 | elu | guys for a rogue dagger used only for ambush is +7 weapon damage the best enchant? |
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| 21:12.12 | Hobby-home | watchoutX: a lib type thing, used by gatherer in my case |
| 21:12.15 | elu | i use outfitter to equip it only when i stealth |
| 21:12.20 | zapl | watchoutX: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3999-DevTools.html |
| 21:12.25 | Ozguli | +20 agi is better than +7 weapon dmg |
| 21:12.26 | Funkeh` | Ozguli, huh? |
| 21:12.37 | Hjalte | ToFu and Quartz doesn't seem to be working together anymore :( |
| 21:12.45 | Ozguli | Funkeh` like lootreaver orbs :P |
| 21:12.52 | zapl | astrolabe does distance calculations between zones and stuff iirc |
| 21:12.58 | Funkeh` | Ozguli, that has nothing to do with bigwigs |
| 21:13.01 | Ozguli | stupidly hard to keep my eye on those orbs when I must stare at health bars |
| 21:13.02 | watchoutX | Hobby-home, oh good to know, I hate gatherer anyway... |
| 21:13.09 | Ozguli | Funkeh` but that shows the messages no? |
| 21:13.14 | Orphis | Does someone have problem with zoning in 2.4.1 ? I crash every time I zone... |
| 21:13.17 | Funkeh` | Ozguli, you should read more blue posts ;p |
| 21:13.22 | Ozguli | I don't |
| 21:13.27 | Funkeh` | Ozguli, It is no longer possible to track orbs |
| 21:13.32 | Funkeh` | until they fix it in a patch |
| 21:13.56 | Funkeh` | hopefully 2.4.2 |
| 21:13.58 | Elsia | I'm missing something about getting LibStub("AceDBOptions-3.0"):GetOptionsTable() to work, anyone can clue me? |
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| 21:14.42 | nevcairiel | Elsia: LibStub("AceDBOptions-3.0"):GetOptionsTable(Recount.db) |
| 21:14.51 | nevcairiel | or whatever your AceDB-3.0 object is stored in |
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| 21:15.05 | Elsia | nevcairiel: got that but do I have to do anything else to get the config to actually change profiles etc |
| 21:15.54 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:16.03 | nevcairiel | just pass in the AceDB-3.0 object |
| 21:16.06 | Draele | Anyone know what's wrong when you try to use an addon in a /command and when you press enter nothing happens, and it doesnt even disappear from the chat input? /tinytip just started doing this to me today |
| 21:16.20 | nevcairiel | script error in the cmd handler |
| 21:16.31 | Josh_Borke | yea, what nevcairil said |
| 21:16.48 | Josh_Borke | oops, did i mispell your name again nevvy? |
| 21:16.51 | CIA-10 | 03durcyn * r67740 10Antagonist/ (. embeds.xml): Antagonist: now with actual functioning externals and embeds. |
| 21:17.06 | Draele | Any idea how to fix that? It's strange because I didn't even update anything and it worked fine last night, but doesnt work now... |
| 21:17.24 | zapl | blame 2.4.1 |
| 21:17.27 | Josh_Borke | Draele: install a bug (or show interface errors) and get help |
| 21:17.41 | Elsia | nevcairiel: thanks gotta track why it isn't working as intended for me then |
| 21:18.15 | Draele | k thanks |
| 21:18.31 | zapl | Josh_Borke: "install a bug" will make it worse :p |
| 21:18.48 | CIA-10 | 03durcyn * r67741 10Omniscience/ (. embeds.xml): Omniscience: fix externals and embeds |
| 21:18.59 | TheDeamon | depends on the bug you install. |
| 21:19.31 | Josh_Borke | yea, whatever |
| 21:19.59 | durcyn | 'installs' a bug in Josh_Borke the hard way |
| 21:21.13 | CIA-10 | 03adirelle * r67742 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua buffs/tracking.lua): |
| 21:21.13 | CIA-10 | SimpleSelfRebuff: drycode sometimes fails: |
| 21:21.13 | CIA-10 | - typo, |
| 21:21.13 | CIA-10 | - fixed error about trackings. |
| 21:21.34 | Gnarfoz | anyone use FinderReminder? |
| 21:22.54 | Ozguli | omg this is hard right now, I have absolutely no idea where they're going to land |
| 21:23.12 | Draele | Are there any current ace mods that work like MoveAnything or Visor? Both of those are so buggy... |
| 21:24.14 | ulic | Can 10 people geared with all the best kara & arena gear get through Zul'Aman? |
| 21:24.46 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 21:24.47 | sag_ich_nicht | PROTIP |
| 21:25.17 | sag_ich_nicht | link this spell: 22989 |
| 21:25.30 | zapl | ulic: depends on skill and knowledge of the instance |
| 21:25.30 | sag_ich_nicht | to unlock twinblades of azzinoth as linkable |
| 21:25.31 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 21:25.49 | Ozguli | saw that on my realm |
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| 21:27.01 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, we just did that, too, heh |
| 21:27.11 | Gnarfoz | can spells be in need of "unlocking", too, btw? |
| 21:27.21 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: how to link it? :P |
| 21:27.24 | Diao | all spells should be immediately accessible |
| 21:27.30 | Gnarfoz | just use wowhead's "get link" button |
| 21:27.45 | Gnarfoz | sadly, there's no spell associated with Ashbringer ;D |
| 21:27.57 | Polarina | Martin Thunder? |
| 21:28.05 | Diao | no |
| 21:28.06 | Diao | the breaking |
| 21:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: there is, but it's firebolt, the imp spell |
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| 21:28.45 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: wuh? firebolt + modifier spell for damage*10? |
| 21:29.42 | CIA-10 | 03gnarfoz * r67743 10MagicMarker/Bindings.xml: MagicMarker - FrameXML.log sez: "Binding header MagicMarker is defined more than once in Interface\AddOns\MagicMarker\Bindings.xml" |
| 21:30.06 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: ---^ ;-) |
| 21:30.12 | Grum | hehe nice sag ;D |
| 21:30.23 | Elsia | nevcairiel: copy profile doesn't seem to do anything, is there anything I need to take care of to have that happen? |
| 21:30.33 | nevcairiel | well |
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| 21:30.33 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/tree.jpg <-- check the portrait for Run, our tree druid |
| 21:30.38 | NeoTron | I think it shows the future |
| 21:30.38 | nevcairiel | setup the callbacks to react on the change |
| 21:30.45 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: got an addon that lets you link spells by ID, like Sniff does for items? |
| 21:30.47 | Pkekyo| | WHY ARE THERE NO FUCKING BLUE FOOD?! |
| 21:31.12 | Pkekyo| | somebody stole it! bastards |
| 21:31.16 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: lol future portrait is nice |
| 21:31.21 | Elsia | alright, let me dig for callbacks |
| 21:31.26 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: ok |
| 21:31.43 | nevcairiel | Elsia: you obviously need to re-apply the settings when they change, we have callbacks for that :) |
| 21:31.52 | Elsia | gief docu :D |
| 21:32.14 | Elsia | tries to learn mind-reading real fast. |
| 21:33.22 | nevcairiel | you wouldnt want to read my mind |
| 21:33.26 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: damn why does ashbringer have to use Firebolt. :P |
| 21:33.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 21:33.46 | sag_ich_nicht | agree'd |
| 21:35.56 | Silviu- | http://www.swfup.com/uploads/swf-114543.swf click different parts of that dog :) |
| 21:36.56 | Grum | hehe |
| 21:37.03 | Grum | i just linked th left+right glaive |
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| 21:37.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that obviously works then, too ^^ |
| 21:37.33 | Hjalte | Elsia: http://ace.pastey.net/84983 and http://ace.pastey.net/84984 |
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| 21:40.35 | Elsia | Hjalte thanks, second is fixed now first I'll have to stare at some more, thought that's fixed |
| 21:40.51 | Hjalte | Elsia: Stare all you want. |
| 21:41.11 | MentalPower | [17:40:05]*christel*[Global Notice] Hi all! I'm about to do a teeny bit of re-routing, it shouldn't be too messy -- affected users should be around 7K. Have a great day and thank you for using freenode! |
| 21:41.13 | MentalPower | be prepared |
| 21:41.19 | Silviu- | :P |
| 21:42.44 | Cyn | nice split |
| 21:42.57 | Cyn | this gets me so excited!!! |
| 21:43.09 | Swimnurd | it was the "re-route" |
| 21:43.09 | Cyn | http://www.ukimagehost.com/uploads/83def8e2f3.jpg |
| 21:43.26 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:44.11 | CIA-10 | 03elsia * r67744 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Recount.lua): |
| 21:44.11 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 21:44.12 | CIA-10 | - Fixed two bugs in lazy sync code. |
| 21:44.24 | Elsia | Hjalte: thanks, I think I found both now. Commit done. |
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| 21:45.24 | [SW]Dodge | elisa: got some aceTimer-3 errors in recount after hiding ui |
| 21:45.37 | Elsia | [SW]Dodge: yeah known problem with realtime windows |
| 21:45.55 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
| 21:46.13 | Elsia | this one and the profile switching I hope to find tonight |
| 21:46.14 | nevcairiel | at least your errors create error messages =P |
| 21:46.33 | Elsia | yep my favorite errors are those that are loud and clear |
| 21:46.46 | Cryect | hehe |
| 21:46.56 | Cryect | come on I love errors that don't tell you any of the related details |
| 21:47.03 | Elsia | oh cryect can I bug you with something? |
| 21:47.04 | nevcairiel | i get to hear them everyday, i shouldnt have told my guildys about bugsack "Send Bugs" feature... |
| 21:47.15 | Cryect | I really wish though we could get a table of the var state w/ errors if we wanted |
| 21:47.18 | Cryect | Elsia, sure |
| 21:47.28 | nevcairiel | Cryect |
| 21:47.31 | nevcairiel | oops |
| 21:47.33 | nevcairiel | anyway |
| 21:47.40 | nevcairiel | i think thats too advancaed for the simple lua :) |
| 21:47.48 | Cryect | whatever I don't have it set to beep or anything |
| 21:47.56 | Cryect | no its not, you can do that sort of thing if you have debug enabled |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-10 | 03alar * r67745 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-10 | AlarAutomation |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-10 | 3.2.6 |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-10 | Fix: REFLECT whispers now works for horde. |
| 21:48.03 | Elsia | it's graphlib, when after a boss fight the dps drops drastically it rescales every frame which apparently creates rather massive cpu load for people, any good idea how to fix that? limit rescaling to every 10th frame or such? |
| 21:48.19 | Antiarc | I wonder how hard it would be, from a technical perspectice, to snapshot a lua state from C |
| 21:48.23 | Antiarc | Serialize it out or something |
| 21:48.27 | watchoutX | oh, another question... |
| 21:48.29 | Cryect | rescaling every frame? |
| 21:48.35 | Antiarc | That would be amazing for debugging remotely. |
| 21:48.44 | Antiarc | Get someone to snapshot their lua state, compress it, and send it over |
| 21:48.44 | Elsia | that's what people report |
| 21:48.46 | Cryect | nothing scales in graphlib |
| 21:48.52 | Antiarc | Then have a sandbox to load the lua state and poke around in it |
| 21:49.03 | watchoutX | does wow invoke the metamethods of a table when saving saved variables? or does it use rawget? |
| 21:49.04 | Cryect | I guess they mean when it collapses |
| 21:49.07 | Elsia | the grid does for realtime window to adjust height of graph |
| 21:49.17 | Cryect | Thats Recount doing that stuff not LibGraph |
| 21:49.26 | Elsia | ah I see |
| 21:49.29 | Cryect | I think it only does it every 0.1 second |
| 21:49.42 | Cryect | lets see |
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| 21:49.55 | Cryect | :DetermineGridSpacing http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Recount/GUI_Realtime.lua |
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| 21:50.09 | Elsia | whoops |
| 21:50.22 | Cryect | Hmmm, though I guess it changes the axis scale in libgraph |
| 21:50.47 | Cryect | don't think that should cause major issues though |
| 21:50.57 | Elsia | if it drops really fast from 100kdps to 0 it seems to rescale every frame which seems to be the issue |
| 21:50.57 | Cryect | let me look at the code see if anything obviously is wrong |
| 21:51.24 | Elsia | haven't experienced it myself but had a few independent folks report it |
| 21:51.35 | trillex | Will Parrot be updated or is it on hold till ck got some sparetime? |
| 21:51.40 | Cyn | cry is recount ready for testing' |
| 21:51.46 | Cryect | no |
| 21:51.53 | Cyn | well then |
| 21:52.09 | Cyn | you have to look at this |
| 21:52.10 | Cyn | http://www.ukimagehost.com/uploads/83def8e2f3.jpg |
| 21:52.13 | nevcairiel | trillex: on hold for now, last i heard |
| 21:52.23 | trillex | Yeah, last I heard too |
| 21:52.26 | Cryect | hmmm bacon bra |
| 21:52.28 | nevcairiel | mmm bacon |
| 21:52.29 | trillex | Shame that the alternatives aren't that good. |
| 21:52.39 | CIA-10 | 03durcyn * r67746 10Omniscience/locale/enUS.lua: Omniscience: add missing locale strings |
| 21:52.39 | Cyn | boobs and bacon |
| 21:52.40 | MentalPower | NSFW |
| 21:52.40 | nevcairiel | trillex: try MSBT |
| 21:52.47 | Primer | it seems that pitbull layouts are not what I thought they were |
| 21:52.47 | Cyn | that is SFW |
| 21:52.55 | MentalPower | err... no |
| 21:53.01 | trillex | Yeah, I'll have to. |
| 21:53.03 | Cryect | pfft thats sfw at least where I work :-p then again if she didn't have the bacon either it still be safe |
| 21:53.15 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:53.18 | Cyn | it is beign sent around the offivce right now |
| 21:53.18 | MentalPower | lol |
| 21:53.19 | Primer | it's just unit frame layouts |
| 21:53.24 | MentalPower | Cryect: where do you work? |
| 21:53.33 | Cyn | everyone laughing their asses off |
| 21:53.36 | Cryect | I work at CCP |
| 21:53.56 | MentalPower | ~wtf CCP |
| 21:54.03 | Primer | CCCP? |
| 21:54.14 | zapl | sounds russian :) |
| 21:54.17 | Stanzilla | ccp makes EVE online, right? |
| 21:54.29 | Cryect | yes |
| 21:54.44 | MentalPower | I got either the EVE dev or the community college of Pennsylvania |
| 21:55.01 | MentalPower | err... Philadelphia |
| 21:55.09 | MentalPower | ah, cool |
| 21:55.13 | Cyn | cry have you see that pic of ease of use graph fro each mmo |
| 21:55.19 | Cryect | heh yes |
| 21:55.30 | zapl | Communist Party of China! |
| 21:55.43 | Gnarfoz | Cyn: link? ^^ |
| 21:56.24 | Cryect | Hmmm, elsia well i can see one thing that will make realtime graphs much faster at least |
| 21:56.32 | Elsia | nice |
| 21:56.49 | Cryect | they will be more mathematically wrong but they run faster at least |
| 21:56.50 | durcyn | if it's the bar graph wherein blizzard assumes the shape of a very well-fed pac-man, then yes |
| 21:57.19 | Cyn | let me find it |
| 21:57.33 | zapl | Cyn: maybe not your interface but your name seems to match the one in my brain.. you posted a screenshot of your ui yesterday and it uses some nice small readably font. whats the name? |
| 21:58.06 | MentalPower | http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart7.html |
| 21:58.21 | Gnarfoz | that's market share |
| 21:58.31 | MentalPower | thats the pacman |
| 21:58.43 | Gnarfoz | also MentalPower, you'd be likely to know this one: did blizz ever re-enable the get all auction data at once thingy? |
| 21:58.53 | MentalPower | they did |
| 21:58.54 | MentalPower | and so did we |
| 21:58.59 | Megalon | http://www.presentationzen.com/presentationzen/images/2007/03/16/pacman.jpg |
| 21:59.02 | Megalon | that's pacman! |
| 21:59.06 | Gnarfoz | wut! in the latest build tagged as preview? |
| 21:59.12 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I always use it when scanning |
| 21:59.26 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: /auc getall I think it is |
| 21:59.32 | MentalPower | but it has some issues still so we're not making too much fanfare about it yet |
| 21:59.32 | Gnarfoz | ah, manual >_< |
| 21:59.37 | MentalPower | ./aadv getall |
| 21:59.47 | Cryect | cyn, is talking about http://bloodeagles.com/images/LearningCurve.jpg |
| 21:59.53 | Gnarfoz | ok. :) I was just curious because that sounded so nice back when it was announced |
| 21:59.55 | Cyn | http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/66908d1205553046-funny-strange-random-pics-learningcurve.jpg |
| 22:00.19 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 22:00.33 | Cyn | it is true |
| 22:00.54 | Silverstorm | yeah, the more you learn about EVE's interface, the more there is to learn |
| 22:01.27 | CIA-10 | 03celess * r67747 10KA_RaidTracker/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:01.27 | CIA-10 | KA_RaidTracker: initial update |
| 22:01.27 | CIA-10 | - <updated the ct raid import> |
| 22:01.27 | CIA-10 | - <overhaul of the db code, db stays the same itself> |
| 22:01.29 | Cryect | a game where knowing the math behind the mechanics actually helps you tremondously :-p |
| 22:02.01 | Silverstorm | yeah...I probably spent as much with Excel as I did with EVE |
| 22:02.29 | Silverstorm | tons of fun, just got to the point where it felt like I'd "won"...nothing left to do, and the next xpac was a ways off |
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| 22:02.54 | Cryect | the next xpac is like every 6 months? |
| 22:03.25 | Silverstorm | yes, it was...this was just after capital ships were released |
| 22:03.46 | Grum | i dont like eve for the fact you *NEED* to be grouping up to be able to accomplish anything |
| 22:03.50 | Cryect | come back try things again game has changed a lot since then |
| 22:04.09 | Silverstorm | well...I would, but my wife hates the game more than she dislikes WoW |
| 22:04.17 | Cryect | haha |
| 22:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | LF1M CC MgT Heroic PST |
| 22:05.21 | NeoTron | I wonder if KA_RaidTracker works |
| 22:05.21 | NeoTron | until my own is doen |
| 22:05.21 | Cryect | I created a new alt recently and was like woah at least how all the new player stuff has changed (last time I created a character was like 2 years ago) |
| 22:05.21 | Silverstorm | plus it had gotten to the point where accomplishing something significant took days or weeks of effort |
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| 22:05.34 | Silverstorm | I started in Jan 2004, stopped in March '06, picked up WoW in May '06 |
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| 22:06.01 | Cyn | i can one soemoen with one link |
| 22:06.11 | Cyn | and you cant top it |
| 22:06.15 | Cyn | http://societymadehim.com/stuff/sowned.jpg |
| 22:09.43 | Kemayo | Hjalte: It's not just ToFu+Quartz -- apparently InFlight+Quartz has the same issue. |
| 22:11.14 | NeoTron | I tried Eve sometime back and wasn't enticed |
| 22:11.15 | Ellipsis | it's a Quartz problem |
| 22:11.18 | Gnarfoz | hm, who |
| 22:11.20 | Gnarfoz | ~quecho |
| 22:11.30 | NeoTron | was disappointed it was more of a space strategy game than a sim-style game |
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| 22:14.06 | durcyn | i'd kill for a Privateer / Freelancer style mmo space combat game |
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| 22:18.46 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth * r67748 10NShakedown/Addons/Omen.lua: NShakedown: Omen support: unlock/lock the frame, don't just show it. |
| 22:19.05 | NeoTron | SWG: Jump to Lightspeed was that |
| 22:19.09 | CIA-10 | 03cryect * r67749 10Recount/GUI_Realtime.lua: |
| 22:19.09 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 22:19.09 | CIA-10 | - Should have been using EXPFAST instead of EXP for realtime graphs |
| 22:19.16 | NeoTron | it had a lot of initial fun but then once max leveled it lost all purpose |
| 22:19.26 | NeoTron | also pvp was more of a "who hit first" thing |
| 22:19.29 | Elsia | cryect thanks |
| 22:19.35 | durcyn | nah, sony products don't count. |
| 22:19.42 | Cryect | Not sure if that really addresses the issue for those people though |
| 22:20.16 | Cryect | I can't see anything really that makes it any slower when scaling than any other time |
| 22:20.27 | Elsia | not sure |
| 22:20.45 | Cryect | I think I could really redo some of the code there to be better but not that much better |
| 22:21.26 | Yssaril | lua> #a |
| 22:21.27 | lua_bot | Yssaril: luabot:1: attempt to get length of global 'a' (a nil value) |
| 22:21.52 | Wyanna | hey folks - just want to thank you all very much - my first mod is now pretty much complete and ready for testing |
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| 22:22.05 | kergoth | grats |
| 22:22.11 | [eu]gunder | ooooooh nice! |
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| 22:22.50 | Wyanna | thanks for helping a nub thru it - I ought to write a little blog about how I put it together |
| 22:23.22 | CIA-10 | 03cryect 072.4 * r67750 10Recount2/GUID_Tracking.lua: |
| 22:23.22 | CIA-10 | Recount2: |
| 22:23.22 | CIA-10 | - Bug fix forgot to initialize newAttrTable |
| 22:23.28 | kergoth | probably a good idea, i'm sure someone could benefit from it |
| 22:25.10 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: ever test your timestamp hack? |
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| 22:25.15 | Wyanna | yeah there's a lot of retarded things I was doing that caused me to lose hairs |
| 22:25.17 | Wyanna | my favorite was writing an "unintentionally recursive" function |
| 22:25.26 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:25.36 | Cryect | unintentional recursive function? accidently called your function? |
| 22:25.45 | Wyanna | yeah |
| 22:25.53 | Wyanna | was suprised wow didn't give a stack overflow |
| 22:25.58 | Wyanna | it basically just hung my box |
| 22:26.20 | Cryect | it normally does stack overflow |
| 22:26.28 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: no because i ran into a weird situation where i couldnt override CombatLog_LoadUI() |
| 22:26.33 | Wyanna | funny then |
| 22:26.44 | Arrowmaster | the hack is awesome though |
| 22:26.44 | Elsia | hmm does if it's all tailcalls? |
| 22:26.46 | Arrowmaster | if only it would work |
| 22:26.50 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: im creating a new SMF and then futzing with its meta table to create a new meta table of uberness |
| 22:27.04 | kergoth | ah, weird |
| 22:27.14 | Arrowmaster | local fake_mt = {__index={isDocked=ChatFrame2.isDocked}} for k,v in pairs(getmetatable(_ChatFrame2).__index) do fake_mt.__index[k] = function(self, ...) return v(_ChatFrame2, ...) end end |
| 22:28.12 | kergoth | heh, replacing the chatframe tables with your own wrappers? |
| 22:28.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:28.34 | Gnarfoz | does anyone know a spammy quest progress announcer? Tekkub's Quecho, just sans the tracker but spamming to /p instead of echoing locally just when someone else has the mod, too :\ |
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| 22:28.38 | watchoutX | Arrowmaster, maybe you know that: does WoW invoke the metamethods of a table when wrinting to saved variables or does it use rawget? |
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| 22:29.15 | Arrowmaster | i was trying to do function CombatLog_LoadUI() ChatFrame2 = fake_frame LoadAddOn("Blizzard_CombatLog") ChatFrame2 = _ChatFrame2 end but the combatlog was getting loaded before the default ui was calling CombatLog_LoadUI() |
| 22:29.52 | Arrowmaster | watchoutX: im not sure |
| 22:30.06 | kergoth | my guess would be that it uses rawget, but never tested, so /shrug |
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| 22:30.44 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: want me to pastey the code to see if you can get it working? might be an addon of mine thats forcing the combatlog to load early |
| 22:30.59 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: running any addons that modify/use the combatlog stuff? my combatlog gets loaded right away due to CombatFilter depending on it |
| 22:31.12 | watchoutX | Arrowmaster, well, off writing test-metamethod -.- |
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| 22:31.32 | Elsia | nite |
| 22:31.43 | Wyanna | Gnarfoz: I think questsfu should do that if you set it to |
| 22:31.49 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: not that i can think of |
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| 22:32.05 | kergoth | can take a look |
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| 22:32.12 | kergoth | even though is hould be doing real work.. |
| 22:32.24 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: the original version of the hack didnt workout because bliz is retarded and upvalued COMBATLOG so now it has to be run before the combatlog |
| 22:32.32 | kergoth | ahh |
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| 22:33.39 | snirks | ah right |
| 22:33.57 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: http://ace.pastey.net/84988 |
| 22:34.06 | CIA-10 | 03kurax * r67751 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: Update zhCN locale |
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| 22:35.24 | breser | Ellipsis: You around? |
| 22:36.11 | Ellipsis | sup? |
| 22:36.27 | breser | I've got a new theory on the auras stoping to update issue... |
| 22:36.36 | Ellipsis | ooh, yay |
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| 22:36.52 | breser | Happens after someone is replaced in a slot in the party/raid. |
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| 22:37.04 | Ellipsis | ponders |
| 22:37.09 | CIA-10 | 03danielbarron * r67753 10RaidBuffStatus/ (5 files): |
| 22:37.09 | CIA-10 | RaidBuffStatus: |
| 22:37.09 | CIA-10 | - Added report on Warlock healthstone talents. |
| 22:37.09 | CIA-10 | - Added check for Druids who have the Omen of Clarity talent point that they have self buffed with it. |
| 22:37.09 | CIA-10 | - Fixed Shattrath Flask of Pure Death and Shattrath Flask of Blinding Light. Stupid Blizzard inconsistent naming. |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-10 | - Fixed missing tool tip for Shadow Aura and Protection. |
| 22:37.12 | breser | Example: Was running heroic MgT... Mage swapped out to get on his Warrior. |
| 22:37.25 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: since bliz upvalued COMBATLOG can you think of any way to detect vs ChatFrame2 on ChatFrame2.AddMessage(self, ...)? |
| 22:37.31 | Ellipsis | and when the warrior joined the party, his buffs wouldn't update? |
| 22:37.33 | breser | After that happened then during the 3rd boss fight it messed up. |
| 22:37.47 | breser | Actually no it ended up being the priest... |
| 22:37.54 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:38.02 | Ellipsis | maybe party indexing then |
| 22:38.19 | breser | Anyway... this explains why this shows up in BGs more. |
| 22:38.23 | breser | People join and leave all the time. |
| 22:38.23 | Ellipsis | bah, I'd need to lead a 5man to test this properly |
| 22:38.43 | Ellipsis | I'll look over the code with that in mind though, thanks |
| 22:38.57 | breser | I'll build a 5 man for testing purposes if you have stuff you want me to try. |
| 22:39.26 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 22:39.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i just got the weirdst error ever from WoW |
| 22:39.44 | breser | Also may explain why toggling the party/raid sort by name fixes it. |
| 22:40.20 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 22:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i got a ton of "memory block to big" errors |
| 22:40.35 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: you're doing it wrong. addon list? |
| 22:40.36 | sag_ich_nicht | then WoW crashed before i could save the stacktraces |
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| 22:40.55 | sag_ich_nicht | can't right now |
| 22:40.56 | sag_ich_nicht | MgT |
| 22:41.13 | Keias | No! |
| 22:41.17 | Keias | MrT imo |
| 22:41.44 | Wyanna | cheers folks |
| 22:41.47 | breser | Ellipsis: Incidentally, while Banzai is doing a better job with the aggro indicator I still don't think it's as good as it was pre 2.4 but maybe I'm just imagining things. |
| 22:41.54 | Funkeh` | durcyn, I think you fail at externals |
| 22:41.57 | Funkeh` | see ant thread |
| 22:42.04 | Ellipsis | breser: it's been working beautifully for me since the health update fix |
| 22:42.50 | breser | How does that work anyway? Just watching target of target? |
| 22:42.54 | Ellipsis | basically |
| 22:43.06 | Ellipsis | it scans your target, focus, party targets, to see who they're targeting |
| 22:43.25 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: your code works. |
| 22:43.32 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: it does? |
| 22:43.36 | breser | So if someone isn't targeting a mob it won't show the aggro? |
| 22:43.38 | kergoth | "Your pet begins eating the feltail delight." has the same timestamp as the feed pet effect adn spellcast |
| 22:43.41 | Ellipsis | right |
| 22:43.43 | Ellipsis | there's no way to |
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| 22:43.47 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: WOOT |
| 22:44.00 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: now to figure out why the fuck my combatlog is getting loaded early |
| 22:44.06 | AbsoRayne | sighs |
| 22:44.29 | breser | Ellipsis: Actually there is now with the combat log. :D |
| 22:44.42 | Ellipsis | the combat log doesn't track *targeting* :P |
| 22:44.56 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: you got it in a seperate file or you add it to something? |
| 22:45.08 | breser | No but for any mob that you don't show someone targeting if they're doing stuff to someone you can bet that person has aggro. |
| 22:45.30 | breser | And thanks to GUIDs you can tell now. But it'd be a whole lot more complicated than the current system. |
| 22:45.38 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck |
| 22:45.43 | sag_ich_nicht | god i wish i had saved that stacktrace |
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| 22:45.45 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: just added it to my random tidbits addon |
| 22:45.56 | kergoth | haha, wow just errored with a "pure virtual function call" error from a library |
| 22:46.03 | Funkeh` | Is there a return in combat log event unfiltered which states the raid icon of the mob |
| 22:46.19 | Kurax | Ellipsis: Filter23.lua in Aura can be deleted |
| 22:46.23 | NeoTron | interesting question |
| 22:46.28 | NeoTron | the default combat log does show raid icons |
| 22:46.31 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 22:46.35 | Funkeh` | that's why Im wondering |
| 22:46.39 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: an 'if COMBATLOG then return end' at the top should keep it from working if the combatlog has already loaded right, dont know of anything else that sets that |
| 22:46.46 | breser | Ellipsis: I'm stepping out for a bit but I'm gonna try to replicate that issue... |
| 22:47.04 | kergoth | Funkeh`: |
| 22:47.05 | kergoth | -- Check for an appropriate icon for this unit |
| 22:47.05 | kergoth | if ( CombatLog_Object_IsA(unitFlags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_RAIDTARGET1) ) then |
| 22:47.05 | kergoth | icon = COMBATLOG_ICON_RAIDTARGET1; |
| 22:47.11 | kergoth | Funkeh`: pasted out of the combatlog code |
| 22:47.14 | Ellipsis | Kurax: yeah, I know, we'll get around to it |
| 22:47.26 | Ellipsis | breser: all right, let me know if you come up with anything |
| 22:47.38 | Funkeh` | kergoth, oh a function already done for me, alrighty |
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| 22:48.18 | NeoTron | anyone know what magic you do to get the MT targets from oRA? |
| 22:48.24 | NeoTron | (assuming a locally installed oRA2) |
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| 22:48.47 | Nanaki | hey all |
| 22:49.00 | Nanaki | anyone familiar with Sorren timers? |
| 22:49.32 | vhaarr | NeoTron: oRA.maintanktable |
| 22:50.04 | NeoTron | thanks |
| 22:50.10 | NeoTron | I'll use that for my kalecgos addon |
| 22:50.19 | Funkeh` | oh that reminds me |
| 22:50.22 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, bonk! |
| 22:50.23 | NeoTron | it'll be entirely automatic with the small requirement of needing oRA |
| 22:50.24 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: found it, DevTools is optdeping Blizzard_CombatLog |
| 22:50.26 | Funkeh` | :) |
| 22:50.31 | Nanaki | i played with it a bit today on my druid and looked like a nice buff/hot/gcd timer. i didnt see a way however to add HoT's or buff cast on myself to it. anyone know if htat is possible? |
| 22:50.34 | kergoth | ah, thatd do it |
| 22:52.58 | NeoTron | ah right |
| 22:53.12 | NeoTron | another to do - make a non-bad DoT/HoT timer |
| 22:53.26 | NeoTron | especially dots |
| 22:53.47 | NeoTron | although I don't need it much anymore I had to suffer with dotimer when specced affliction last night |
| 22:55.28 | Silverstorm | NeoTron: I think oRA2 was updated to work with built-in MT targets...maybe should grab from there? |
| 22:55.49 | Ellipsis | no |
| 22:56.13 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: hey there. |
| 22:56.53 | Ellipsis | hay you |
| 22:57.22 | Zhinjio | thanks for closing that jira ticket for me. |
| 22:57.48 | Ellipsis | always happy to help |
| 22:58.24 | kergoth | dangit, minichat doesnt like the combat log much anymore |
| 22:59.32 | Silverstorm | NeoTron: I'm affliction right now, DoTimer's doing alright for me, but I was considering updating it to 2.4 combat log. Not sure I would replicate the rest of it's features though |
| 22:59.57 | Ellipsis | wouldn't it be nice if blizz didn't hijack ChatFrame2 and replace it with something that is definitely not a normal chat frame |
| 23:00.11 | shieldb | I liked minichat but something kept on screwing up the auto-maximize watching |
| 23:00.20 | Cyn | what is a mod like this but shows timers |
| 23:00.21 | Cyn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8587-LockNotes.html |
| 23:00.24 | Funkeh` | minichat is eww |
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| 23:00.31 | shieldb | it worked great for a couple of weeks and then all of a sudden wouldn't auto-expand on custom channels |
| 23:00.33 | Funkeh` | garbage generation sky high |
| 23:00.39 | shieldb | yeah that too |
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| 23:02.55 | Silverstorm | I used it for a bit, but then it annoyed me...didn't really notice the garbage stuff at the time, but now that you mention it, I remember it |
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| 23:08.21 | Arrowmaster | on macs addons are loaded in alpha order right? |
| 23:09.04 | durcyn | depends on whether the fs is case-sensitive or not |
| 23:09.28 | durcyn | most aren't |
| 23:09.56 | chiper | arrow: they should be loaded the same as on the PC |
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| 23:10.18 | chiper | which I presume is Alpha following dependancies |
| 23:10.20 | NeoTron | Silverstorm: it's badly written and has quite a few flaws |
| 23:10.24 | NeoTron | and it's badly written ;-) |
| 23:10.30 | Arrowmaster | ok but does ~ sort after a-z on mac? |
| 23:11.04 | chiper | ah, that's a tough question to answer |
| 23:11.18 | Silverstorm | NeoTron: not debating those points, just saying it was still working relatively well for me, though I've begun tossing ideas around in my head for a new DoT timer |
| 23:11.37 | Nanaki | have you guys tried Chronometer? |
| 23:11.40 | chiper | the finder has its own sorting method separate from other APIs |
| 23:11.54 | chiper | I'm not sure what method cocoa uses |
| 23:12.01 | Nanaki | if i could combine the features of chronometer and sorrentimers into 1 mod it'd be perfect heh |
| 23:12.19 | Nanaki | oh and maybe add a counter for lifebloom stacks :-D |
| 23:12.33 | Silverstorm | Nanaki: no, I haven't, might give that a try tonight on Gorefiend trash |
| 23:13.25 | chiper | Arrowmaster: the finder sorts ~ at the top, but if I do an LS from terminal it sorts to the bottom |
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| 23:13.36 | chiper | so I guess it all depends on what library Blizzard uses |
| 23:14.28 | Nanaki | NeoTron if you happen to make an all ecompassing buff/hot/dot timer for all units i just happened to come up with a name for it - HoTterDoTter |
| 23:17.20 | Cryect | it should sort by ascii value so thats strange |
| 23:17.20 | Nanaki | id imagine (though havning not looked at lua at all) that sorren timers must have a filter to prevent it from showing buffs/hots cast upont he own player so there should probably be something that i could comment out somewhere? |
| 23:19.32 | Nanaki | hmm... function SorrenTimers:UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED(unit, spell) |
| 23:19.32 | Nanaki | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:19.55 | Nanaki | anyone think that mgith be what causes it not to show hots on yourself? it's around line 462 |
| 23:20.15 | Ixnorp | I use HoTCandy at the moment but it's a little annoying how it doesnt track Prayer of Mending |
| 23:20.22 | Silverstorm | the ~= is a not equal, though...anything after that would be player-only, I think |
| 23:20.58 | Nanaki | oh i suppose that would prevent it from registering other players casts? |
| 23:21.15 | Silverstorm | that sounds logical |
| 23:21.27 | Silverstorm | I don't have the code, so I dunno what happens after that line |
| 23:22.04 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, sweet jesus |
| 23:22.08 | Funkeh` | just checked wowhead |
| 23:22.10 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.12 | Funkeh` | r |
| 23:22.22 | Funkeh` | things just got so much easier |
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| 23:26.33 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: ping |
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| 23:28.08 | Ellipsis | pong |
| 23:28.10 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: any idea if the gap between left and right texts on CowTip can be influenced? |
| 23:28.27 | Ellipsis | it can't, it's determined by the width of the longest line |
| 23:29.38 | CIA-10 | 03grayhoof * r67754 10EavesDrop/EavesDrop.lua: EavesDrop: Fixes for colors. |
| 23:30.24 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: it does look like it's width of longes line + something more, though :\ |
| 23:30.52 | CIA-10 | tekMapEnhancer: 03tekkub 07master * r088dc785e6 10tekMapEnhancer/tekMapEnhancer.lua: Make the world interactable with the map open |
| 23:31.16 | Ellipsis | well the tooltip width is basically the longest left + the longest right + a small gap |
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| 23:32.23 | Gnarfoz | trying to put combopoints in my tooltip using [ComboSymbols] but the spacing seems really wide for some reason, at least wider than I'd guess it should be or whatever |
| 23:32.32 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: Unless I'm missing it somewhere completely, It doesn't seem like the "Blank Bar" is colorable or texture-able in Pitbull. Would you consider that a valid enchancement request? |
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| 23:34.14 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: I think you were bouncing when I just said something. Did you catch it? |
| 23:35.47 | Ellipsis | nope, sorry |
| 23:35.49 | Ellipsis | what was it? |
| 23:36.17 | CIA-10 | 03funkydude * r67755 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Curator: Minor tweak |
| 23:36.36 | Birdemani | is there anyway to go back to the old display on GRID? the way to lock it to just 25, never expand beyond it so i dont get a CPU lag cycle when someone moves around the groups? |
| 23:36.44 | Birdemani | i turn off dynamic display |
| 23:36.55 | Birdemani | but it still adjusts |
| 23:37.47 | Ellipsis | delete Grid_DynamicLayout or whatever it is |
| 23:37.52 | Birdemani | ya |
| 23:37.56 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: Unless I'm missing it somewhere completely, It doesn't seem like the "Blank Bar" is colorable or texture-able in Pitbull. Would you consider that a valid enchancement request? |
| 23:37.56 | Birdemani | but when you do that |
| 23:38.05 | Birdemani | and you move someone to group 7 |
| 23:38.12 | Birdemani | it expands out and never goes back at all |
| 23:38.29 | hypetech | I'll paypal you $5 USD if you don't change omen between now and midnight EST >.> |
| 23:38.43 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: it's called "blank" because it's, er, blank |
| 23:38.50 | Ellipsis | if you want a bar of color use PitBull_FullBar |
| 23:39.09 | Zhinjio | Yes, thank you. I get that. But it can be used for any number of things, including a destination for text, etc. |
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| 23:39.28 | Birdemani | ya, grid dynamic doesnt work and there is no way to lock it down anymore |
| 23:39.28 | Zhinjio | and that has just as much need for good contrast with its background as the health and power bars |
| 23:39.36 | Ellipsis | it's used to make an invisible gap |
| 23:39.40 | Ellipsis | FullBar makes a visible one |
| 23:40.15 | AbsoRayne | I have a question for healers. |
| 23:40.15 | Zhinjio | fullbar? |
| 23:40.36 | AbsoRayne | I got a wierd dogtag combo that might be confusing, just want some input. |
| 23:40.37 | Ellipsis | http://files.wowace.com/PitBull_FullBar/ |
| 23:40.46 | Zhinjio | whoa. |
| 23:40.51 | Zhinjio | I had no idea that existed. |
| 23:40.56 | Ellipsis | and now you do :) |
| 23:41.17 | AbsoRayne | -[MissingHP]/[MaxHP] will basicly show -0/10,000 if theyre full life, but if theyre at 50% itll show -5000/10,000. Is that kind of hard to difference? |
| 23:41.56 | Zhinjio | [FractionalHP] |
| 23:42.02 | Zhinjio | instead? |
| 23:43.36 | AbsoRayne | Im basicly trying to set something up that is minimal, but doesnt make the frame look like total crap... |
| 23:44.12 | AbsoRayne | I might just go with Difference on this one though... |
| 23:44.16 | Zhinjio | [IsMapHP?MaxHP!FractionalHP'('PercentHP:Percent')'] |
| 23:44.22 | Zhinjio | thats pretty much what I'm using now. |
| 23:44.37 | Silverstorm | AbsoRayne: I just use [MissingHP]. I don't need to know the max, I can see a health bar that lets me know relatively how much is missing |
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| 23:45.22 | AbsoRayne | Silverstorm: Im basicly thinking that im going to use [Status or (-MissingHP):Hide(0)], but im trying to find a way that it will show Max HP on Mouseover |
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| 23:45.41 | Ellipsis | [IsMouseover?MaxHP] |
| 23:46.44 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: <3!!! Full is perfect. |
| 23:46.50 | AbsoRayne | Is there a way to make it hide the Defeciet when I do that or no? |
| 23:46.51 | Zhinjio | Fullbar, rather |
| 23:48.00 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: don't thank me, thank Nandini |
| 23:48.16 | Silverstorm | IsMouseover?MaxHP![whatever the other tag is] (or however LDT3 does if-then-else |
| 23:49.32 | AbsoRayne | Silverstorm: Awesome, that did it, thank you. :) |
| 23:49.58 | Silverstorm | np |
| 23:50.07 | Ellipsis | ping Kurax |
| 23:50.20 | Kurax | Hi |
| 23:50.44 | Ellipsis | Kurax: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8435.msg198278#msg198278 |
| 23:51.11 | Ellipsis | also: do you *ever* sleep? seems like you're lurking here all the time o.O; |
| 23:51.39 | AbsoRayne | [Outline]["":ClassColor] ftw |
| 23:51.59 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, for it to seem that way then you yourself would have to seem to never sleep |
| 23:52.06 | zapl | hm wich addon would show me a bar for how long my stun lasts? |
| 23:52.14 | Kurax | Sleep is for the weak, Ellipsis said. |
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| 23:52.21 | Ellipsis | hehe |
| 23:52.35 | Kurax | Anyway, do you have the same problem? |
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| 23:52.38 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: actually what I do is wake up every hour or two and check IRC |
| 23:52.49 | Ellipsis | Kurax: well, I haven't tried it - I don't use the CombatText module |
| 23:52.59 | Ellipsis | just thought I'd let you know about that report :) |
| 23:53.54 | CIA-10 | 03durcyn * r67756 10Antagonist/embeds.xml: Antagonist: fix CBH path |
| 23:55.04 | zapl | nvm i already has one -.- |
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| 23:57.12 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: http://tinyurl.com/yqbtws !! |
| 23:57.31 | Zhinjio | actually, the colors got pretty munched in that one. |
| 23:57.39 | AbsoRayne | For some reason, I cant seem to make a new Text area with PitBull. O_o |
| 23:58.42 | CIA-10 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r67757 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: |
| 23:58.42 | CIA-10 | TouristLib: Tourist-2.0 |
| 23:58.42 | CIA-10 | - copied zone info for patch 2.4 zones from LibTourist-3.0 |
| 23:59.11 | AbsoRayne | Strange... |
| 23:59.22 | AbsoRayne | Ill just rename the ones I dont use and have at them for now.. |
