IRC log for #wowace on 20080403

00:00.09zaplis it possible to create a second player frame for i would like a small manabar midscreen
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00:00.17zapl^ pitbull
00:00.26Ellipsisno
00:00.34Ellipsiseach unitID gets one frame
00:00.41Gnarfozphew
00:00.49SilverstormWoW restriction or Pitbulll restriction?
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00:01.03Ellipsisit's not really a restriction, it's just the way pitbull works
00:01.04Gnarfozfinally got my Target dogtag working again after LDT-3.0. :)
00:01.13Silverstormlol, ok
00:01.18Ellipsisyou could use another UF mod or a HUD to get an extra player frame
00:01.27Gnarfozanyone know if this can be optimized in any way?
00:01.29Gnarfoz[IsUnit("mouseovertarget", unit="player") ? Yellow "Target: " White "<<YOU>>" ! Name(Target):Prepend(Yellow "Target: " ClassColor(unit="mouseovertarget"))]
00:01.40ZhinjioEllipsis: http://tinyurl.com/ywr9yp
00:01.43Zhinjiothats full color
00:02.15EllipsisGnarfoz: yes, it can
00:04.02Ellipsis[Yellow "Target: "][Target:IsUnit("player")? "<<You>>":White ! Target:Name:ClassColor(unit=Target)]
00:04.34Gnarfozjesus that's missing half the gibberish I produced. you win 1 internets. :)
00:05.08Ellipsisif you don't want anything to show when the unit has no target (just a guess?), try: [Target:Exists?"Target: ":Yellow][Target:IsUnit("player")? "<<You>>":White ! Target:Name:ClassColor(unit=Target)]
00:05.37Gnarfozwomen are too smrt for me, I was just going to say that the first one produces a "Target: " when nothing is targetted :D
00:05.44Ellipsislol
00:05.48EllipsisI do what I can
00:06.35CIA-1003kergoth * r67758 10NShakedown/ (Addons/AXRS.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: AX_RaidStatus support.
00:06.46GnarfozI didn't know you could use the Target tag insted of the unit name in " " when using unit=
00:06.56Ellipsisyep
00:07.38Ellipsisit's usually better to use Target when you want to refer to the unit's target, since that way you can use the same tag on other unitids without problems
00:08.07Gnarfozactually, it worked... once, now it's just showing "PvP" instead of the target o_O
00:08.25Ellipsisargh, what did I do wrong this time
00:08.26Ellipsissec
00:08.45Gnarfozd'oh I killed my CowTip, it's also showing my targets name when mouseovering over my player frame ;D
00:09.10Gnarfozback to normal again, without changing anything o_O
00:11.20GnarfozEllipsis: nm, see above. I probably mangled the line in some way while trying to tab target something other than me and still having cursor focus in the line editor
00:11.24zaplthere is one thing i tried with dogtag but failed: show some text whenever i have enough mana to shapeshift. possible?
00:11.36Ellipsisyeah, it's working fine for me, you probably still had a bit of some other tag in there
00:12.10Gnarfozzapl: should be, you can both read how much mana you have and compare that value to something and do conditional texts
00:12.15Ellipsiszapl: if it's on your frame, [MP > 500 ? "sum durid is shift now"]
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00:12.30Gnarfozlol @ the text
00:12.32Ellipsisif it's not your frame, use MP(unit="player") instead of just MP
00:12.47Ellipsisand obviously replace 500 with whatever number you actually need
00:13.05zaplproblem is: im still not lvl 70 so mana should be calculated dynamicly
00:13.19Ellipsiswell then no, there's no tag for that
00:13.34Ellipsisdifferent forms require different amounts of mana anyway
00:13.55zaplsomething like maxmana * 0.3 would be what in tags?
00:14.02durcyngah, why doesn't omen single target mode think baer druids are tanks
00:14.29Gnarfozdurcyn: it takes talent point distribution into account, I think, so if it's a tree in bear form, no game?
00:14.30ckknightzapl: [PercentMP >= 30 ? "i r kitteh!"]
00:14.58AbsoRayneckknight: Is the option to add Text Areas on pitBull broken atm? I cant seem to add one at all.
00:14.58zapland another problem is while shapeshifted [mp] gives energy / rage. at least it did in dt2.0
00:15.00Zhinjiocan a text field be forced to run to two lines?
00:15.01ckknightor whatever it s
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00:15.02ckknightis*
00:15.12ckknightAbsoRayne: it should work, are you getting an error?
00:15.12Zhinjioif my bar soace is sufficient for it, obv.
00:15.22AbsoRayneNo, it just wont produce a new area.
00:15.22durcynGnarfoz: it fucking better not be trying to inspect in the middle of a boss encounter
00:15.23PrimerHave the rating restrictions been removed from S3 arena gear?
00:15.29ckknightzapl: [IsMana & PercentMP >= 30 ? "i r kitteh!"]
00:15.30Lukianwhat addon(s) can I use to monitor proc uptime (knowing the internal cooldown of items too would be good) ?
00:15.45Zhinjiolike... FractionalHP<br>PercentHP:Percent
00:15.48Gnarfozdurcyn: what? >_< why would it inspect... ANYONE?
00:15.52Ellipsisgah
00:15.57Zhinjioyou get what I mean
00:16.09ckknightZhinjio: [FractionalHP '\n' PercentHP:Percent]
00:16.13Zhinjiokk
00:16.16Ellipsisyou can do that either by entering a linebreak directly in the tag, or using "\n"
00:16.42AbsoRayneyay @ my new Party Frames! http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F181000.png
00:17.12ckknightAbsoRayne: does pressing enter clear the editbox or just keep the text in there?
00:17.12AbsoRayneThanks again for the Dogtag help guys. :P
00:17.20AbsoRayneckknight: Keeps the text.
00:17.26ckknightAbsoRayne: hrm...
00:17.30CIA-1003kergoth * r67759 10NShakedown/ (Addons/SBF.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: first pass support for SatrinaBuffFrames 2.
00:17.31ckknightsrsly need to look into that bug
00:17.35ckknightEllipsis: make sure I fix that tonight
00:17.36EllipsisAbsoRayne: trying to create a new text?
00:17.44Ellipsisckknight: is this the text bug that I tried to fix?
00:17.47ckknightyes
00:17.50Ellipsisdammit
00:18.09Ellipsisit shouldn't be happening now that the validate prevents it from setting texts that already exist
00:18.18Ellipsisneed steps to reproduce :(
00:18.21CIA-1003kergoth * r67760 10NShakedown/Addons/SBF.lua: NShakedown: SBF support: forgot to hide the tabs on Stop().
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00:18.52EllipsisI'm able to create new texts just fine
00:18.57zaplckknight: FractionalDruidMP instead of FracMP and its fine :)
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00:20.17AbsoRayneIll try to update my PitBull tonight and see if it continues, ill let you know
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00:22.07sag_ich_nichtFunkeh`: i know
00:22.26sag_ich_nichtFunkeh`: i mean you could have used thottbot for that
00:22.28sag_ich_nichtsince ages
00:22.28sag_ich_nichtbut
00:22.31sag_ich_nichtnvm that
00:22.52Funkeh`I don't use thottbot
00:22.54Funkeh`so meh
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00:24.01durcynGnarfoz: oh, right.  regardless, bear was showing as 150% or so on an MD pull, hence my annoyance.
00:27.25CIA-1003kergoth * r67761 10NShakedown/Addons/Proximo.lua: NShakedown: fix Proximo support.
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00:32.18Gnarfozhttp://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/cowtip1.jpg & http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/cowtip2.jpg
00:32.54GnarfozEllipsis: ---^ that space :\
00:33.31EllipsisGnarfoz: it's because the tooltip width is the longest left + longest right + small gap
00:33.37Ellipsisyour second line has a longer left than your first line
00:34.35Gnarfozhm. indeed, but I guess "small" isn't that small after all ^^ anyway, those [ComboSymbols] look quite alone there, because they are the only 'right' I have at all
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00:35.10Gnarfozbut: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/cowtip4.jpg happens all the time, so I can't really make it a left, too ^^
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00:36.35CIA-1003chuanhsing * r67763 10PetBar/PetBar.lua: PetBar: update zhTW/zhCN locale
00:36.40Gnarfozthat happens right after getting a new combo point, the tooltip's size "snaps" to the correct size afterwards, but before that happens, it linebreaks the string that just got longer because of the new cp
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00:38.49GnarfozEllipsis: your connection seems seriously broken, with that many disconnects ;)
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00:40.20Ellipsisit is
00:40.47Ellipsiscan't wait to get out of this hotel >_>
00:41.00CIA-1003chuanhsing * r67764 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/ (PriestessDelrissa.lua SelinFireheart.lua): LittleWigs: update zhTW/zhCN locale
00:41.34Gnarfozhotel? *curious*
00:42.08Ellipsisyes, ck and I have been living in a hotel for a couple months now :P
00:43.18Kuraxcrys
00:43.38Gnarfoz"Code genius meets smrt++ woman, stay in hotel for months"
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00:44.09Silverstormnews at 11 :-p
00:44.10CIA-1003chuanhsing * r67765 10TrapBar/TrapBar.lua: TrapBar: update zhTW/zhCN locale
00:44.22[Merc]Balstorgood news or bad?
00:44.22Gnarfoz^^
00:44.36KuraxInterface\AddOns\PitBull\Aura\Highlight.lua:66: Bad argument #2 to `newFrame'. table expected, got nil
00:45.03Silverstormjust making a funny on Gnarfoz's comment
00:45.06mykxI really hate this. half my raid updates threat addons and half doesnt
00:45.18Gnarfozwhich in itself was intended to be a funny! :D
00:45.24EllipsisKurax: what did you do to make that happen? :P
00:45.38Swimnurd_One guy in my raid goes, "It works I am not updating"
00:45.55mykxits our tanks.. I cant see them on my list
00:46.00Gnarfozmykx: don't start the raid. blame the half that doesn't update. ^^
00:46.11CIA-1003kergoth * r67766 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Recount.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add Recount support.
00:46.17Swimnurd_yeah I just don't give them dkp
00:46.21Swimnurd_works everytime
00:46.34KuraxEllipsis: Not me, I also collecting PitBull errors among CN community
00:46.36sbingnerCraftList2 depends on Abacus but apparently it's not listed as depending on it -- it didn't install it for me via updater
00:46.44charonAntiarc: ping
00:47.03EllipsisKurax: ahh, well that's a bug that I've heard reported very rarely, and not sure what the condtions are that cause it
00:47.18Ellipsisif you get any info about conditions to reproduce it, let me know
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00:47.37sag_ich_nichtwhat the fuck
00:47.44sag_ich_nichtthe teleport scroll vanishes after 1 time use?
00:47.52Antiarcpong
00:47.55Gnarfozyes
00:48.00GnarfozEllipsis: anyway, in case it got lost in the... whatever that time while you still appear to be here, but aren't is called: is this fixable? http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/cowtip4.jpg <-- I get a new CP, the fontstring gets bigger, the tooltip however doesn't until a moment later, meanwhile, the fontstring gets forcibly linebroken (and extra line = stuff escaping the tooltip, too)
00:48.11CIA-1003chuanhsing * r67767 10Palatank/localisation.lua: Palatank: update zhTW locale
00:48.13sag_ich_nichtepic fail
00:48.23Silverstormsag: I'm not positive, but it seems I got another one the next time (may have been different toon, though)
00:49.14EllipsisGnarfoz: that shouldn't happen, I think it may have to do with the funny character you use for your CPs
00:49.32GnarfozEllipsis: nah, I tried with regular @' and X's, too :\
00:49.49Ellipsisand it still gets linebroken? o.O;
00:49.58Gnarfozyep
00:50.05Gnarfoz[NameRealm:HostileColor] [ComboSymbols(symbol="@")]
00:50.31sag_ich_nichtwow
00:50.34sag_ich_nichtwhat a useless item
00:50.35Ellipsishmm...do you have any rights?
00:50.59[Merc]Balstorwhat are the odds of an SVN admin being on?
00:51.05Gnarfozthe moment I get a new CP, it gets linebroken after the name, pushing the stuff below outside of the tooltip, a moment later the tooltip expands to the right to accomodate for the new lenght of the string and everything fits again ^^
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00:51.26GnarfozEllipsis: not in this example, but let me check if there are any stray space characters or whatever ;)
00:51.52Ellipsisah, so the problem is basically that the tooltip takes one more frame to update its width after the lines change
00:52.06Ellipsiswhile it's too narrow, the lines will get wrapped like that
00:52.45CIA-1003kergoth * r67768 10NShakedown/ (Addons/teksLoot.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: teksLoot support.
00:54.54GnarfozEllipsis: yep, the question probably boils down to "can the updating of the string and the tooltip size be made simultaneous" or something
00:55.02Ellipsisnods
00:55.11Ellipsisyou wanna create a jira ticket about it?
00:55.35GnarfozEllipsis: also: /echo CowTip.db.profile.lines.rights = "nil", "", "", ...
00:55.48Gnarfoznot "nil". nil. ^^
00:56.04Ellipsisthat's normal
00:56.26EllipsisI was just curious to see if the problem only happened because you had nothing in the rights to adjust the width
00:56.34Ellipsisbut I'm thinking that probably doesn't matter
00:57.17Mytoslmao i just got an add for the curse client in the add window of WAU lmfao
00:57.55charonAntiarc: sorry, i figured i had it working but i didn't. will alert again
00:58.14Gnarfozyep, doesn't. it's the same, regardless of what content changes. if I have [ComboSymbols] as a right, then if I drop down to 0 CP, for a moment I still have the large tooltip (longes left + gap + "nothing") until it snaps to the smaller size
00:58.30Ellipsisyup
00:58.38ZhinjioEllipsis: you said the other day you were ditching your Ply-Pet-Tgt frame
00:58.45Zhinjiohow's that working out?
00:59.01sdoubleis prat working for everyone?
00:59.29EllipsisZhinjio: it's great, I just have a text on my target frame that shows a red "Pet" if my pet is targeting something other than my target
00:59.42Ellipsisthat's really all I needed to know from that frame anyway ^-^
00:59.45ZhinjioNeat: my server is 13th in the world for sunwell event progress. thats pretty awesome.
01:00.03sdoubleZhinjio, where can you find that?
01:00.17Zhinjiohttp://us.gorgonnash.info/index.html
01:01.29EllipsisZhinjio: I posted screenshots of my UI in the giant thread if you're interested
01:01.48CIA-1003kergoth * r67769 10NShakedown/ (3 files in 2 dirs): NShakedown: add SmoothDurability support.
01:01.56JaxonZhinjio: interesting numbers.  PvP servers mess over themselves for the Sunwell stuff
01:01.57Zhinjiogah. I rarely read wowace forums. I'll take a look
01:02.01GnarfozEllipsis: now I get that "tooltip is stuck on another unit" thing again that I had for a moment earlier o_O
01:02.21EllipsisGnarfoz: what do you mean? stuck how?
01:03.05shieldbneotron: I don't suppose you could add a "nuke" CC option to magic marker?
01:03.11GnarfozI had a enemy player targetted, hovered over my player frame, and the name didn't change. it kept updating the mouseovertarget thingy correctly, though. weird oO
01:03.12shieldbFor the scouts in sunwell, for example
01:04.17EllipsisGnarfoz: hmm...
01:05.32CIA-1003xinhuan * r67770 10BankItemsFu/ (BankItemsFu.lua BankItemsFu.toc): BankItemsFu: - Shift-Click now opens BankItems guild bank (/bigb).
01:06.32ZhinjioEllipsis: nice.
01:06.44Zhinjiothats darn near "hud" style.
01:06.44KuraxEllipsis: Someone was suggesting option to make buff icons displaying oppositely in PB, that means when the unit needs your buff, the icons shows, otherwise not.
01:06.57EllipsisZhinjio: that's kind of the idea
01:07.10Zhinjio<-- can't stand huds, personally
01:07.12KuraxI wanna see too, gimme a link please =p
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01:07.27EllipsisKurax: I'd say that needs to be another module, PitBull_MissingAuras or something. there's just no room for that behavior in Auras
01:07.31Ellipsishehe, sec
01:08.00ZhinjioI want the center of my screen completely clear of stuff.
01:08.01Ellipsiscombat: http://i31.tinypic.com/2psm5w5.png   ooc: http://i27.tinypic.com/b4uek2.png
01:08.13chiperwow, arrowmaster went a little crazy with updating the library names today, eh?
01:08.30EllipsisZhinjio: and I want my health and mana as close to the action as possible since I manage them very carefully
01:08.34Ellipsisto each his own ^-^
01:08.46Arrowmastereh no that was last week
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01:08.52chipertwenty some libraries that WAU updated just now, all of them with just one change.
01:08.59Ellipsisit was needed
01:09.09Arrowmasteroh wait no that was the other night wasnt it
01:09.12Ellipsisif you don't want to download everything over again for one little change, use svn up instead of WAU
01:09.41chipereh, I dont care that much.  just thing it's worth mentioning
01:10.01KuraxSee? Only 10 buttons lock can rules all!
01:10.17chiperI mean, if I really wanted to get anal, the constant koKR and zhCN updates are far more annoying
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01:10.50ZhinjioEllipsis: the "action" for me is at the side  or bottom right of the screen. Any clicking I do is over there. so thats where everything I might ultimately want to click on, is.
01:10.54Gngskwtb nolocale zips!
01:11.33Zhinjioand yes... of course. To each their own
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01:12.03JaxonGngsk: fucking agreed.
01:12.03EllipsisZhinjio: my eyes are generally on my character and the thing I'm killing (which is generally at the top center of my screen)
01:12.55KuraxI suggest should stop approving more translator accounts for a while
01:13.24KuraxI don't know others, but for zhCN there are enough translators for now
01:13.25EllipsisI don't realy click stuff, except other mobs (again, in front of my character = on top of the screen)
01:13.28Ellipsismy mouse is just for movement ^-^
01:13.40Zhinjioyeah, if I wanna watch the fight, thats where I'm at. BUt if I'm healing. I'm not watching the fight. I'm watching the party uf
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01:13.48durcyneh, should just have a literacy test for translators
01:13.52EllipsisI play a lock, I don't do a lot of healing
01:14.07EllipsisI would certainly use a much different layout if I weren't an offensive ranged class :)
01:14.29StarinniaI have a love hate relationship with my ui right now
01:14.34Starinniai should redo it prolly
01:14.56KuraxI know almost all the zhCN translators, so if any author wanna bitching on someone, I'll grab him here
01:15.23ZhinjioKurax: I'm going to need help with my addon soon
01:15.35Zhinjioall I have is frFR, deDE and enUS
01:15.36Zhinjioso far
01:15.40KuraxZhinjio: Sure, no problem
01:15.46CIA-1003xinhuan * r67771 10GatherHud/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): GatherHud: Add zhCN and zhTW localization from NightOwl
01:16.02Zhinjioonce I switch from the beta in branches, and throw it into trunk, I'll ping you.
01:16.12Zhinjiofigure... about a week
01:16.22Kuraxkk
01:17.15Starinniafound a ss if anyone wants to laugh at a bad ui :P
01:17.18Starinniahttp://dkpfiles.com/sophos/pics/210.jpg
01:17.47Gngskdef seen worse
01:17.53KuraxI'm trying to get touch of all translators and having some quality controls before commits, but there always have some noobs who ruin reputations =p
01:18.12dylanmMaybe like a little exam.
01:18.16dylanmIS THIS A VALID TABLE
01:18.31ZhinjioI think I will keep a Pl-Pt-Tgt frame, if for no other reason than when I do shartuulk
01:19.22Ellipsispossesses use your target, not pet target :P
01:19.57Zhinjiounless thats changed since yesterday, that isn't true.
01:20.05Zhinjiofor shartuulk
01:20.10Zhinjio-k
01:20.24Gngskshartuul def uses pet frame in my experience
01:20.34Zhinjionods.
01:21.09Gngskand my experience would be killing shartuul like 50 times and still no physical dps ring :X
01:21.19Zhinjioand up until the most recent beta of bongos, it also used my pet bar for controlling him, but beta 6 changed that, and now he has you set one of your abs to the "possess" bar
01:21.32ZhinjioI suck at it.
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01:21.42GngskZhinjio, wiki it, pretty good write up
01:21.42Zhinjiothe furthest I've gotten is ... um... the assassin
01:21.47Zhinjioheh.
01:21.53ZhinjioI have it memorized. I just suck at it.
01:21.56Zhinjiogrins.
01:22.04StarinniaI tried that once, did so bad my guild laughed at me for a week, and never tried again
01:22.09Gngskkeybinds make it a joke
01:22.10GnarfozEllipsis: is there a tag (LDT-3) that tells me what unit the current tooltip is about?
01:22.20Gngsk1-5QE
01:22.23GngskI could do it in my sleep
01:22.36EllipsisGnarfoz: er...the current tooltip is always about the mouseover unit
01:22.52Gnarfoz...right. d'oh.
01:22.53Gnarfoz;D
01:22.57Ellipsis:P
01:22.59Zhinjioi haven't gotten the hang of the assassin's switching between ice/fire/shadow
01:23.29dylanmWell, sometimes you're hovering over a unit frame.
01:23.47dylanm:GetUnit() does return "target" and so on in that case but I hope you can figure that out.
01:23.55ZhinjioI need to find someplace logical for the focus frame
01:24.03Ellipsisdylanm: when you're hovering over a unit frame, that unit is your mouseover
01:24.09dylanmEllipsis: IT IS BOTH
01:24.13Ellipsisyes it is
01:24.25Ellipsisbut as far as the tooltip code is concerned no other unit IDs exist :P
01:24.34[Merc]BalstorSo any one see this in the news today "Ted Turner: Global Warming Will Cause Mass Cannibalism"
01:25.36dylanmEllipsis: Just noting that GTT:GetUnit() is a little smarter than that. I initially thought... "well, isn't that fucking obvious what it is?"
01:25.39CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67772 10Recount2/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
01:25.39CIA-10Recount2:
01:25.39CIA-10-Fixes a bug in the timer scheduler involving removing timers
01:25.40CIA-10-Detail window now has highlighting over rows and tool tips
01:25.40CIA-10-Dropdown can now be set to follow the mouse
01:25.40CIA-10-Window order won't run if the window told to move to the top is on the top
01:25.49dylanmThe second return, not the first. The name information is obviously good.
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01:26.25Ellipsisyes, but there's no dogtag for that :P
01:26.38Gnarfozerr
01:26.39dylanmNope.
01:26.49Ellipsisyou can use [IsUnit("unitid")] to check if the mouseover is the same as another unit
01:27.10dylanmI wasn't implying that my little API anecdote had any use here :p
01:27.45Gnarfozso, seeing that my question wasn't detailed enough: I only want to display combo information if it's either a mob I'm hovering over in the 3d world (= mouseover) or my pitbull target frame (or ToT, because that could as well be an enemy)
01:28.14Ellipsiser, you want to display combo points only if it's an enemy?
01:28.17Ellipsis'cause that's easy
01:28.28snirksshadowstep rogue + mage
01:28.29snirksfrost mage
01:28.34snirksez mode
01:28.37snirksi hate them
01:28.37GngskI can't see a situation where you'd want to see combo points in your tooltip
01:28.43snirksbut then again im warrior druid :P
01:28.44Gnarfozprobably I only want to display combo points if I have combo points on whatever I am hovering over :D
01:28.49Gngskoh, I guess if you lose your target
01:28.55Ellipsiswell that's much easier :P
01:28.58GnarfozGngsk: indeed :)
01:29.02CIA-1003xinhuan * r67773 10BankItemsFu/BankItemsFu.lua: BankItemsFu: - Code cleanup
01:29.24KuraxContinue working on localize DT3 docs =p
01:29.25Ellipsis[Combos > 0 ? ComboSymbols]
01:29.34Starinniai hate school... end of the semester sucks
01:29.45GnarfozEllipsis: win, again
01:29.49Starinniano time to program :(
01:29.53Ellipsisthough I'm fairly certain that ComboSymbols returns nothing if you don't have any combo points anyway
01:30.09Gnarfozactually, no that doesn't work
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01:30.33sag_ich_nichtokay
01:30.46sag_ich_nichtfemale draenei are NOT the most sexy avatars.
01:30.56sag_ich_nichtfemale draenei with engineering goggles are.
01:31.15Ellipsiswhatever floats your boat
01:31.28Gngskhorns and tails float boats
01:31.32Gnarfozbecause there is no "do I have combo points on *this unit*", you either have combo points or you don't. if you deselect your current target which you have CPs on, you "lose" them, if you reselect that same target, you "get them back" o_O
01:31.41Starinniawhats with the goggles tho?
01:31.57EllipsisGnarfoz: erm...then I have no idea, I guess I don't understand how combo points work
01:32.14EllipsisI thought you could have combo points on individual units
01:32.25Mytosyou can
01:32.30sag_ich_nichtno
01:32.32sag_ich_nichtonly on ONE unit
01:32.33breserOnly one unit.
01:32.34JaxonNo, you can't.
01:32.34GnarfozI guess I don't either, because if that were true, then SCT and so on should display "3 CP" again, if I reselect my target, but it doesn't
01:32.34dylanmOne at a time.
01:32.34Starinniaone unit at a time though
01:32.44JaxonAs soon as you put a combo point on a second unit you lose them on the first.
01:32.54WobWorkWhen are they changing that?
01:32.57Gnarfoznever.
01:32.59WobWorkI seem to recall some mention of it
01:33.04Gnarfozfake patch notes :D
01:33.07WobWorkah
01:33.09WobWorkdamn them
01:33.14Starinniago april fools day
01:33.21Gnarfozit's a core mechanic of the rogue class ;>
01:33.23WobWorknah, it was well before AF
01:33.32WobWorkpft
01:33.40Starinniai remember that from AF a year ago or so
01:33.41WobWorklike they don't change core mechanics on the fly =P
01:33.46WobWorkhi2u warlock stamina!
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01:34.07Starinniawarlocks can't be used as examples, all Blizzard has locks
01:34.11Starinniaits biased
01:34.22Ellipsisdoes the API give you any way of determining whether/how many combo points you have on a unit that's not targeted?
01:34.22Arrowmasterif you switch targets, as long as you dont gain or try to preform any combo point generating moves you should still have the combo points on the original target if you switch back
01:34.23Gnarfozthey could just as well convert every character to rogue class then, it'd be so OP it's not even funny. :D
01:34.24WobWorkThey have it... (wait for it) locked up, eh?
01:35.22Estilwarlocks need buff
01:35.27leftbracketlol
01:35.38Estilno really, warlocks need buff
01:35.44leftbracketlol
01:35.49leftbracketsorry i dont agree
01:35.57Ellipsisyeah, I can still die if I don't press any buttons
01:35.57neotronaffliction warlocks need live
01:36.03EllipsisI need moar buffs
01:36.09neotrons/live/love/
01:36.18Estilor destruction
01:36.22breserWarlocks should be able to fear bosses so we don't need tanks. :P
01:36.31Estildemonology needs slight little tweak and it'd be super
01:36.40breserThen PVE and PVP will be exactly the same. :P
01:36.41neotronthe fact that aff locks go from competetive dps to lolwhut when you get to T6 is just wrong
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01:37.52Starinniawhats just wrong is doing 13k damage in 2 seconds...
01:37.52Estilon my rogue, I always go after warlocks
01:37.57Estilthey die so fast with 0 resistance
01:38.03Starinniathat rogue is so pissed at me right now
01:38.17Starinnialove windfury
01:39.32neotronStarinnia: right. As a warlock i always do 6.5 DPS
01:39.34neotronthat's why my raid only use warlocks
01:39.48Starinniano, i meant my ret pally just had a huge crit string + WF attacks in pvp
01:39.49Mytosi love the new changes to lacerate, i pissed off so many rogues in pvp last night, big deal you got cheat death im gonna bleed you to death with lacerate lol
01:39.55Starinniathe rogue i killed is pissed
01:39.58Starinniafollowing me now
01:40.16Estilin a meanwhile, I will say this.
01:40.17Estilcomcast sucks
01:40.43neotronStarinnia: lies! you clearly was complaining about the insane burst dps of warlocks
01:40.55Starinniacurse of doom is OP!
01:40.56ZhinjioI just found an interesting bug in pitbull config.
01:40.58neotronheck I once did 28k dmg with a 2.28s cast time!
01:41.07Starinnianot fair on curator
01:41.09Starinnia:P
01:41.16neotronnot curator
01:41.27ZhinjioI set raid target, ready check and pvp icons all to Outside-Left-Middle
01:41.33neotronpre-shahraz trash, Essence of Anger, Akama.. one or more of those
01:41.35Zhinjioso, they "stack" left to right
01:41.42Starinniaahh
01:42.00ZhinjioI removed ready check (the middle one) nad pvp icon (outside-most) disappeared as well
01:42.06GnarfozEllipsis: COW-80 it is for that "lag" thingy =)
01:42.18neotronmy first >10k crit was on Hydross way the hell back
01:42.21Zhinjiochanging its position to something else and back again makes it reappear.
01:42.39neotronhappened to get trinket, set proc, PI, SB debuff and all that good stuff all at once
01:42.50EllipsisGnarfoz: thanks :)
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01:43.57charonAntiarc: so. i think i finally got it. i hacked up a kind of "unit test" environment for threat-2.0 that lets several instances talk to each other over a fake acecomm
01:44.40neotroncharon: do you work in QA? :P
01:44.42charonit's more of a proof of concept, but i made it discover the bug back in r67174 when a mob died
01:45.32charonneotron: you've seen the mess the raiders have been in last weekend... i figured i might as well try and help avoid that kind of thing
01:46.22charonAntiarc: i can send you the files, or just commit straight to svn. it's two new files in threat-2.0, i didn't touch any of the actual addon
01:47.12XelopherisIs the API still available to use an environment object in a macro?
01:47.31GnarfozXelopheris: I don't think there ever /was/ API to do that
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01:49.53XelopherisGetting shit pushed in by kalecgos not fun
01:50.08BrunersXelopheris: to answer your question about the robot, its to get more trash loot (sumotes, epix)
01:52.24XelopherisO_o I didn't ask about the robots
01:52.47BrunersXelopheris: you did about at about 13:44 my time
01:53.03Brunersim having 03:52 atm if that helps
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01:53.29XelopherisThat would put me at work O_o
01:53.38Xelopheriswhich is definitely impossible, cause I can't get online from work
01:53.38Brunersdamn, let me scroll back up then
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01:54.44Bruners13:46 < Xelopheri> I wanna know why the hell they're killing that particular robot
01:55.41Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12492.0
01:55.42Xinhuanrofl
01:55.43Xinhuanlook
01:55.45Xinhuanits alar!
01:55.58dylanmI CAN'T CLICK THE LINK FAST ENOUGH
01:56.33dylanmHe has his own library.
01:57.01dylanmI thought the whole point was that his madness would be contained.
01:57.16BrunersXelopheris: that was either you or someone else using your irc/nick
01:57.26Xinhuani bet he would implement his own ScheduleLeaveCombatAction() wrapper in his library
01:57.41Gnarfozalso, he wants to "not reinvent the wheel"... WUT. svn delete Alar* then!
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01:58.20JJSheetsis away: I'm off to the den of iniquity for some damned nice food.
01:58.38sag_ich_nicht1/0
02:00.06BrunersXelopheris: 13:46 +5 hours more or less
02:00.14FtH|Daemonawtf is alar anyway?
02:00.48Brunersis a guy, named alar
02:00.55Brunersor a girl, i dont know
02:01.03dylanmJust read his code.
02:01.17FtH|Daemonatalking of the Addon ...
02:02.25dylanmYou'll have to be more specific.
02:03.02BrunersFtH|Daemona: the names on is addons explains themselfes
02:03.07dylanmThere's AlarArtRemover for when you need to get serious.
02:03.12XelopherisBruners: My roommate's net connection is now conveniantly disabled. Thanks for the tip :D
02:03.18dylanmAlarAutomation for all your common annoyances.
02:03.34dylanmAlarBGHelper for your battleground call-out needs.
02:03.59durcyni think i'd rather just ignore any line about alar in here, because it's actually more annoying to call attention to it every bloody day
02:04.04BrunersXelopheris: np :P, no idea why i bothered reading what you had been discussing
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02:07.41Zhinjiowhat are the names of the chat frames? Any know offhand or do I need to dig out the silly mouseover framefinder script
02:07.42CIA-10Quelevel: 03tekkub 07master * rbb1f218636 10Quelevel/Quelevel.lua: Add quest level into linked quests
02:08.20XelopherisChatFrame1
02:08.21Xelopherisetc
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02:13.15Brunerswhat is the status on parrot atm ?
02:14.11dylanmNothing new. There's a patched CombatWhatever.lua on the forums.
02:14.27dylanmSeems to work for some.
02:14.31Funkeh`uses blizzard fct
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02:14.59dylanmBruners: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8437.msg198347#msg198347
02:15.30Brunersthanks
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02:17.53kenlyricanyone using arkinventory noticing it losing the categories for some items?
02:18.08Silverstormkenlyric: yes, just open rules and edit them
02:18.11Arrowmasterbah where did kergoth go!
02:18.24kenlyricSilverstorm: edit them to what?
02:18.31Silverstormsame thing they are now
02:18.40kenlyric?
02:18.40Silverstormjust click edit, then OK...don't have to change anything
02:18.45kenlyricthat's ok
02:19.03Silverstormkinda weird, but it seemed to pick things up, as long as the misplaced items were in my bags
02:19.27kenlyricI don't use rules for these items
02:19.30kenlyricthey're standard categories
02:19.46kenlyriclike mana potions in Mana(Potion)
02:20.32kenlyricI think it means periodic table is flubbed
02:21.01kenlyricI love you, perdiodic table, and all the ways you fuck up on me
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02:22.32Silverstormpossibly, or the code involving PT messed up
02:24.10Dark_Elfwhat version ya using ken?
02:24.30kenlyricpt just hates me, and apparentlyh me alone
02:25.17kenlyricI thought it was medeleev, when I used to disable it all my categories would come back. Now it's shitting out new ones.
02:25.55kenlyricI think it's all libpt3.1
02:26.07CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67775 10Recount2/ (GUID_Tracking.lua Recount2.lua):
02:26.07CIA-10Recount2:
02:26.07CIA-10-Can now grab unit info on mouse over and on target changes
02:26.13CIA-1003ricowan * r67776 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc): RicoMiniMap: Attempt at handling the black minimap problem reported by Mac users.
02:26.22kenlyricnobody has evern been able to reproduce it
02:27.05Brunersdylanm: will WAU write over that file when i update?
02:27.27dylanmOnly if Parrot gets updated, I think?
02:27.33kenlyricah HA!
02:27.35dylanmI don't really know. I don't use WAU.
02:27.36kenlyricit IS bulkmail
02:27.40kenlyricoh well
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02:27.50kenlyricsobs a bids a fond farewell
02:28.14Brunersdylanm: what do you use then ?
02:28.42dylanmI don't use anything on there.
02:29.30Zhinjiodamn, I got up way too early today. I'm gonna go crash for a couple hours.
02:29.35kenlyricso, any up and coming mods that send massive quantities of email automagically?
02:30.05breserO.O
02:30.08exor674to the same person?
02:30.26Odlawya.. just what we need, ads to wow gold sites in our emails
02:30.35Brunersim using postal and alt click to add item
02:30.58kenlyricthat's not automagic.
02:31.08kenlyricthat's the opposite of automagic
02:31.31Dark_Elfi use ctmail but i dont think its automagic
02:31.33kenlyricI wish I could figure out what new or newly updated mod it's conflicting with
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02:46.09Xelopheriswowowow, fuck kalecgos. No portal for 48 seconds, nobody near bushes.
02:47.12CIA-1003funkydude * r67777 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/ShadeOfAran: 2.4 update
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02:58.01[VeXeD]is parrot combat text working now?
02:58.42Yssarilwoot generated http://tinyurl.com/2wynu7 from http://yssaril.pastey.net/84992
02:58.56Ellipsisno, but someone posted a semi-working version
03:00.26digmouseand ckk have spare time to work on it?
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03:01.10[VeXeD]Hi Ellipsis. :]
03:01.24Ellipsishiiii
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03:02.42dylanm[VeXeD]: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8437.msg198347#msg198347
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03:08.58Arrowmasterrofl i just found yet another bug/typo in Ace2
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03:09.31Arrowmasterline 2295 of AceConsole-2.0 typo....
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03:11.14sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster well fix it
03:11.18Arrowmasteri cant
03:11.22CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67778 10Recount2/ (5 files):
03:11.22CIA-10Recount2:
03:11.22CIA-10-Changed a little how main windows will pop up the details windows
03:11.22CIA-10-Detail Window now gets a title
03:11.28sag_ich_nichtwhy
03:11.33Arrowmasterdont have commit access to Ace2
03:11.37sag_ich_nichtugh
03:11.39sag_ich_nicht~lart vhaarr
03:11.39purltakes out a cattle prod and gives vhaarr a good jolt
03:11.42sag_ich_nicht~lart ckknight
03:11.42purltakes out ckknight with the trash
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03:12.03sag_ich_nichtugha
03:12.05sag_ich_nicht*ugh
03:12.05sag_ich_nichtanyway
03:12.11sag_ich_nichtwhat's the bug Arrowmaster
03:12.24Arrowmasterits only a typo, if it ever caused a bug it would because somebody passed the wrong arguments into the function anyway
03:12.35sag_ich_nichtstill
03:12.36sag_ich_nichtshow me
03:12.38Arrowmasterfor i = 1, select('#', ...)+1 do
03:12.50Arrowmasterlocal v = select(i, ...)
03:12.54Cryectheh
03:12.56Arrowmasterit should be -1
03:12.58sag_ich_nichtfacepalm
03:13.20Cryectshouldn't that error when select trys to select something thats not there?
03:13.26Cryectactually guess it just returns nil
03:13.29Arrowmasterlater in the loop it does name = select(i+1, ...) break
03:13.56Arrowmasterwhich is why it should be -1
03:13.56sag_ich_nichtCryect which would explain some nil errors that didn't get traced properly
03:14.01sag_ich_nichti'd assume
03:14.17AntiarcSo
03:14.32sag_ich_nichtis it time for the daily protocol break yet?
03:14.36AntiarcMy guild is urging me to rickroll everyone that uses Omen, by embedding the song and forcing the warning noise to it
03:14.43Arrowmasterlike i said its only a typo, if it ever got that far in the loop it would be from incorrect input
03:14.43sag_ich_nichtuhm
03:14.44Cryectuh don't
03:14.44sag_ich_nichtno
03:15.04sag_ich_nichtAntiarc you have commit access to Ace2?
03:15.08AntiarcI dunno
03:15.14sag_ich_nichtthen you don't
03:15.21ArrowmasterAntiarc: a lot of pissy users would probably never use it again after that
03:15.28EllipsisI tried to get ck to do it but since you nubs are so bad at describing the problem he gave up
03:15.28AntiarcArrowmaster: I know :P
03:15.32AntiarcBut the thought of it amuses me
03:15.36AntiarcIt's not the thing I'd do
03:15.46AntiarcBut imagining it amuses me.
03:15.58sag_ich_nichtEllipsis shut up, log into his SVN account and fix the typo
03:16.09sag_ich_nicht:P
03:16.14EllipsisI don't have his svn password, that would be wrong :/
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03:16.17CIA-10IHML:
03:16.17CIA-10- Added zhCN
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03:17.05sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: keylogger
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03:17.24sag_ich_nichtas i just said
03:17.25sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: keylogger
03:17.31Ellipsis[8:15:43 pm] <Ellipsis> if you actually tell me what line is wrong and what it should be, I can make him fix it
03:17.44durcynmake him, you say
03:18.44sag_ich_nichtEllipsis AceConsole-2.0 line 2295 this: for i = 1, select('#', ...)+1 do should be this: for i = 1, select('#', ...)+1 do because later on it does this: name = select(i+1, ...) break
03:19.01sag_ich_nicht(bolded so i don't have to deal with seperating code from non-code)
03:19.12sag_ich_nichterm
03:19.14sag_ich_nichttypo there
03:19.18sag_ich_nichtEllipsis AceConsole-2.0 line 2295 this: for i = 1, select('#', ...)+1 do should be this: for i = 1, select('#', ...)-1 do because later on it does this: name = select(i+1, ...) break
03:19.19sag_ich_nichtfixed
03:19.27Ellipsisok
03:19.32CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67780 10Recount2/GUI_Details.lua:
03:19.32CIA-10Recount2:
03:19.32CIA-10-Bug fixes for detail window changes (missed some locals I needed to define)
03:19.39sag_ich_nichtat least
03:19.43sag_ich_nichtthat is what Arrowmaster claims
03:19.52sag_ich_nichtif he's wrong and everything breaks horribly blame him
03:19.57Ellipsisk
03:20.07Silverstormwtb 24 othe rpeople who will update Omen along with me   :(
03:20.27Ellipsisthreat meters take more coordination than the boss fights themselves
03:20.36sag_ich_nichtno they don't
03:20.52sag_ich_nichtjust takes people that aren't too stupid to install WAU
03:21.02Ellipsisthat too
03:21.03sag_ich_nichtand yes the lazy people that don't install it/use it are stupid too
03:21.10EllipsisI don't use WAU
03:21.12Ellipsisam I stupid :(
03:21.23Aiianenot if you use svn :P
03:21.33EllipsisI only use svn for addons I actually commit to
03:21.48EllipsisI use a different updater for general addon updating
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03:22.26Silverstormat least you update...we have 12-13 people who only update when told...and times like this they bitch a lot about updating
03:23.06sag_ich_nichtSilverstorm same here
03:23.12sag_ich_nichtexcept even more people
03:23.16sag_ich_nichtand many of them are like
03:23.26sag_ich_nicht"QQ it's not so bad just play without it"
03:23.27Silverstormand we just locked up on Council...which means we have to come back tomorrow for Illidan
03:23.40EllipsisI don't update that often, but I also don't use Threat-2.0 or oRA or anything else that my entire raid would depend on me updating
03:23.46sag_ich_nichtYEAH YOU DO THAT WHEN YOU CAN DO FUCKING 16K DAMAGE CRITSTREAKS IN LIKE 1.5 SECONDS -.-
03:24.30sag_ich_nichtseriously... hate those people that say that shit
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03:25.39AbsoRayneEllipsis y ckknight: Updated PitBull, and I can make new Text Areas now
03:26.01sag_ich_nichtsure it's only 7.84k aggro but still that's a ton
03:26.30EllipsisAbsoRayne: glad to hear it
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03:28.29Gngskvhaarr, ping
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03:31.07iKONEllipsis: do you help maintain pitbull?
03:31.46AbsoRayneInteresting, an XLoot error
03:32.09AbsoRayneFailed to retrieve an item ID I believe
03:32.19AntiarcMentalPower: Ping
03:33.04EllipsisiKON: I do indeed, why?
03:33.15Chaudsomeone is updating prox dim and adding castbars =O
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03:35.03iKONI was just wondering why Dogtags have such limited use it Pitbull. Seems like they could be used to control more than just a limited set of text properties.
03:35.27Ellipsishow so?
03:35.29dylanmPeople do a lot with that.
03:35.50iKONIt would be ool if I could use Dogtags to contol the way bars looks, for instance.
03:35.52SwimnurdI dono Dogtags use a lot of CPU time as it is...
03:36.08EllipsisI'm actually working on another project using that basic concept
03:36.56Ellipsisanything can be either a static value or a dogtag
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03:40.25ckknightwoo, Dethklok!
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03:41.25CIA-1003ckknight * r67781 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - fix a typo on line 2295 in :RegisterChatCommand, apparently.
03:42.27sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster that right? :P
03:43.30CIA-1003Silverstorm * r67782 10StatBlocks_Bags/ (5 files in 2 dirs): StatBlocks_Bags: initial commit
03:43.37sag_ich_nichtwell, no matter atm, i go to bed now
03:43.38sag_ich_nichtnight
03:44.10Ellipsisnight sag_ich_nicht
03:44.12Ellipsisbtw you're welcome
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03:45.30Funkeh`Swimnurd, are you around
03:46.05digmousedinner time
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03:52.37CIA-10LibDogTag-3.0 - literal numbers that have no modifiers or anything of that nature will be taken out of their [] barriers with :CleanCode()
03:52.37CIA-10fixes DOGTAG-27, sorta.
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04:00.20GngskFunkeh`, chances that commit makes it into this hourly zip? :
04:00.22Swimnurd<3 Funkeh'
04:00.24Gngsk:O
04:00.40Gngskjust killed brutallus for the 2nd time, about to start working on fel, heh.
04:00.48Funkeh`Gngsk, it's in
04:00.52Funkeh`being generated at the moment
04:00.52Gngskw00h00
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04:01.07Funkeh`Swimnurd, pm
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04:01.12ShadowedXinhuan: ping!
04:01.18Xinhuanpong
04:01.25ShadowedYou did a bunch of work on the combatlog right?
04:01.30Xinhuana little
04:01.48Xinhuanall i did was take the original code, and improved its memory/cpu usage, but kept the exact functionality
04:02.09ShadowedYou happen to know how to remove the quick filter bar in the combat log? Trying to get it so you can make it the same size as other chat windows
04:02.16ShadowedBut I can't seem to figure out what to remove
04:02.30AntiarcYou really don't want to mess with that.
04:02.33Xinhuani don't think i do, try asking antiarc
04:02.34AntiarcIt's all hacked up.
04:02.35Xinhuanhe did that part
04:02.36AntiarcBasically
04:02.48AntiarcHe has the frame, but he shrinks the normal frame's background positioning
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04:03.00AntiarcSo it only looks smaller
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04:03.20Shadowedwell
04:03.28Shadowedit's either level my 6thsomething 70, or do this
04:03.45Shadowedand it's been annoying me that my combat log is higher then my chat log
04:04.40Shadowedas far as I can tell, it's going to be a horrible pain in the ass
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04:06.14ShadowedAntiarc: Pretty much that, or make it so it does show up still. but you don't basically end up with a blank bar that has nothing in it.
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04:10.14CIA-1003kagaro * r67786 10kgPanels/Libs/: kgPanels: added CallbackHandler to externals, to fix an issue with the config app
04:10.15CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67787 10Recount2/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
04:10.15CIA-10Recount2:
04:10.15CIA-10-Windows now have close buttons (now to add some commands to show them)
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04:10.39Yssarilwoot firefox3b5 has the home button back
04:10.46Swimnurdnice
04:11.01Swimnurdb4 had it in the bookmark bar
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04:11.06Swimnurdit took me forever to find it
04:11.20Yssarilyea or just alt+home does it too
04:11.38Yssarilbut was still annoying as hell :)
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04:12.15Yssarilscores a little higher on the acid3 test too
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04:13.02vithosanyone tried that new webkit build with the javascript loading parallelism optimization?
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04:13.22durcynckknight: hi, that last ace2 commit is cool and all, but a nontrivial number of addons in trunk broke as a result
04:14.03Fisker-hmm
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04:14.21Fisker-i wonder why blizzard saw it nessecary to more than triple  the aggro range kazzak has?
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04:14.41Swimnurdto maeke those already annoying dailys more annoying
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04:14.59Fisker-ez dailies are ez
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04:15.39Corganyou're ez
04:15.39Zyndromedailies is forcing me to level cooking and fishing :<
04:15.50WobWorkI like the herb node -just- within Kazzak's range
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04:16.06Silverstormanyone able to help me add the right externals to my mod?  I know what to add, just wanna make sure I do it right
04:16.06Fisker-though of course since the aggro range on kazzak is so big the dailies are quite annoying
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04:16.31CIA-1003funkydude * r67788 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Add corrupting strike warnings
04:16.35Funkeh`NeoTron, __^
04:16.42durcynno, seriously, someone with commit access to Ace2 needs to revert that shit, it's causing options tables passed to RegisterChatCommand to fail validation
04:16.53Gngsk^
04:17.04Funkeh`ckknight, broke something?
04:17.05Zyndrome"yay unstable living flare *shadowboltspammed by Kazzak*"
04:17.06Gngskhow2fix?
04:17.22Fisker-moar hate is teh fel siphon quest
04:17.32Shadowedoh huh
04:17.33Fisker-if you target something else while siphoning you'll lose the blood
04:17.34Shadowedthats an amusing hack
04:17.35durcynAceConsole-2.0 needs to be reverted to 66043
04:18.06Funkeh`ckknight, go revert yor breakage
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04:19.15CIA-1003antiarc * r67789 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: Ace2 - Revert latest change, is causing massive table validation failures in many addons. ckknight, please pick up a white courtesy IRC. ckknight, please pick up a white courtesy IRC.
04:19.24AbsoRayne6 Healers on Tidewalker = Fail.
04:19.42Arrowmasterif that seriously broke something then something else is wrong with that code
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04:20.50CIA-1003funkydude * r67791 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: Add 15yd proximity
04:21.18Fisker-GIEV BADGES
04:21.40Zyndromeditto
04:21.51AbsoRaynesighs
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04:22.17AbsoRayneWhy dont people listen to the MT when he goes 'THERE NOT ENOUGH FUCKING HEALERS, IF ONE DIES THE RAID DIES HORRIBLY AFTERWORDS.'
04:22.42XinhuanAntiarc, what's causing the hyjal hangs in omen? hehe
04:22.47CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67792 10Recount2/Recount2.lua:
04:22.47CIA-10Recount2:
04:22.47CIA-10- /'recount2' will add a new main window or show a hidden one
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04:24.16Zyndromehttp://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/omenspam.jpg , last night was interesting
04:24.21Fisker-because people suck AbsoRayne
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04:25.33Fisker-our healing leader
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04:25.57Fisker-which, by pure coincidence is also a priest wants to gear up all the PRIESTS with SR gear
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04:26.11Fisker-even though we have no use for any more SR gear until we get to shazrah
04:26.49Fisker-but of course talking to retards aren't quite like talking to a door
04:26.54Fisker-the door atleast can't do anything
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04:27.07WobWorkIt can close
04:27.09WobWorkand open
04:27.13WobWorkand often lock
04:27.27Fisker-by itself?
04:27.30Fisker-pretty awesome
04:27.31WobWorkwhich is a lot more than a number of people I know of
04:27.33WobWorksure
04:27.37Fisker-don't got any doors that can do that
04:27.43WobWorkMy front door automatically closes
04:27.45WobWorkand locks
04:28.02AntiarcXinhuan: I haven't been able to find any conclusive evidence that it IS Omen
04:28.09Fisker-i'm guessing the priest guy wants to leave at some point
04:28.11AntiarcI've had people without Omen locking up, too
04:28.17Fisker-which is why he want SR gear out
04:28.29Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5687440405&sid=1&pageNo=1
04:28.34Xinhuanthings do seem to point to it though
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04:29.06AntiarcSee, thing is
04:29.12AntiarcYou need a while loop to lock WoW
04:29.16AntiarcI don't have any candidates.
04:29.23Xinhuanor a event that triggers itself
04:29.58sylvanaaror _G in a saved var
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04:30.20Xinhuanone of the posts says something about leotheras changing phases locking up ppl
04:30.25Xinhuansomething to do with threat clears?
04:30.27AntiarcThere are even blues in the thread saying people without Omen are locking up
04:30.38Cryector recursion
04:30.43AntiarcRecursion just blows the stack
04:30.51sylvanaarwhich crashes the client
04:30.53Xinhuanunless its tail calls
04:30.55Cryectwell not if it was tail calls
04:30.55AntiarcNo it doesn't
04:31.29AntiarcI really am looking over my code hardcore, but I can't find anything that'd do it
04:31.32QuantumDeltaYeay seems I rightfully defended omen when ppl complained during hyjal xD
04:31.53QuantumDeltaAntiarc: We had several people using different versions of omen
04:32.01QuantumDeltaSeveral people using no omen at all
04:32.05QuantumDeltaAll locking up
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04:32.06Xinhuando you have ANy loops that run from 1 to X?
04:32.13Xinhuanand can X be negative or lower than the start number?
04:32.16vithosJJSheets: keybinds don't seem to be working for the possess state (eyes of the beast)
04:32.19QuantumDeltaAnd I was using the same version as some of those people and NOT locking up.
04:32.24Xinhuanwhile loops of some kind
04:32.25QuantumDeltaSo I really don't think it's omen or threat
04:32.46vithosJJSheets: actually neither does clicking
04:32.55Fisker-so Antiarc
04:33.00Fisker-the lockup issue fixed?
04:33.06Arrowmasterwe had a lot of people get disconnected on monday when we started hyjal, wiped on winterchill because of it, had most people turn off omen and most of it stoped
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04:33.13Fisker-wasn't following just heard about it :P
04:33.13Arrowmasterbut others never disconnected
04:33.23Xinhuanof course, a possibility is that there is malicious code in another addon hooking Omen code to cause a hang
04:33.27Xinhuanso disabling omen would fix it
04:33.35Xinhuanbut that's like 99.9% unlikely hehe
04:34.39Xinhuanits more likely to be some event triggering itself
04:34.48Xinhuancasuing a infinite loop
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04:35.11ckknightokay, wrt the AceConsole change, it was something that I was told would fix issues, I didn't test cause I thought it came form an authoritative source
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04:35.19AntiarcI'm really dubious of the event thing
04:35.21ckknightdon't expect me to commit anything blindly to Ace2 anymore
04:35.24AntiarcBecause the event structure didn't change at all
04:35.32CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67793 10Recount2/GUI_List.lua:
04:35.32CIA-10Recount2:
04:35.32CIA-10-No longer will refresh the actual bars on the main window if none of the combatants actually had changed data
04:35.32Xinhuanwell antiarc, i made that kind of mistake before ;p
04:35.38Arrowmasteri dont see how that change could cause any issues
04:35.38AntiarcCertainly
04:35.39Xinhuanand hardlocked ppl in postal hehe
04:35.43AntiarcHehe, oops
04:35.57AntiarcI'm just puzzled because my event triggers are pretty damn well tested at this point
04:36.08AntiarcAlso, it's the kind of thing that should be hardlocking lots more people more often if it were the case
04:36.25AntiarcI haven't seen any hardlocks in my raid, but we've been exclusively in Sunwell
04:36.27Xinhuanhas the bug where after ressing or rezoning
04:36.33Xinhuanomen stops working been fixed?
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04:37.34Avhey folks, have anyone seen an issue with the instance maps lately, where clicking on an instance map doesnt' actually do anything?
04:37.43Avand going into an instance doesn't bring the map up?
04:37.53Av(cartographer instance maps)
04:38.44Arrowmasterupdate
04:38.48Arrowmasteri fixed that last week
04:38.48Avheh ok
04:38.53Av*updates now*
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04:39.06Avis it usually safe to use the latest version on file.wowace ?
04:39.12Arrowmasteralways
04:39.15Arrowmasterfor cartographer
04:39.18Avexcellent. thank you sir
04:39.43Xinhuanmight i remind Antiarc, pally taunt doesn't work in omen yet ;p
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04:43.34the-golem:-)
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04:45.14CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67795 10Recount2/GUI_Details.lua:
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04:45.14CIA-10-Detail windows weren't been shown again after being closed
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04:45.14CIA-10StatBlocks_Bags:
04:45.15CIA-10- SetText -> SetFormattedText
04:45.17CIA-10- fixed externals
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04:46.10Yssarilwhat do i have to do for ace3 to add my optiontable to the blizzard interface menu?
04:46.45AntiarcoptFrame = LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):AddToBlizOptions("Omen", "Omen")
04:46.50AntiarcThat's what I use for Omen
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04:47.21Yssarilwhat do you need the optFrame for ? is it usefull for anything?
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04:49.38Fisker-:o
04:49.44Fisker-us server on phase 3 now
04:49.45Zyndromeprobabyl for the new Addons-tab in the Interface options
04:49.53Zyndromeprobably*
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04:50.28Silverstormis there a way to set the externals on the initial commit instead of importing, check out, set externals, then re-commit?
04:50.42Yssarildont think so Silverstorm
04:50.44CIA-1003funkydude * r67796 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: Actually *show* proximity
04:51.07Xinhuanu could create a folder remotely, checkout, then copy your files/externals into your new checkout folder, then commit ;p
04:51.46Xinhuanyou can also create the folder remotely, and then modify the externals remotely
04:52.05Xinhuanbut there's no one-step do it all
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04:53.07CIA-1003cryect 072.4 * r67797 10Recount2/widgets/dropdown.lua:
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04:53.07CIA-10-Dropdowns work correctly again after being set to follow the mouse mode and back again
04:53.38Silverstormok, thanks
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04:58.05Kurax~seen CIA-9
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05:05.30ShadowedAntiarc: Wasn't too bad to do actually, fairly sure I got it all working
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05:08.09AntiarcShadowed: You're a braver man than I.
05:08.27Shadowedhttp://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw12639_thumb.png
05:08.30Shadowednot sure if that image works yet
05:08.40WobWorktiny image is tiny
05:08.47Shadowedhttp://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw12639.png
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05:11.08Shadowedmostly some SetPoint trickery
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05:12.31Arrowmasteryou should see the trickery ive been working on
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05:15.11Gngsksince funkeh is gone if anyone feels like making a typo fix to kalecgos.lua on line 438 = needs to be ==
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05:17.52GngskNo, thank you!
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05:25.25CIA-1003Silverstorm * r67802 10StatBlocks_DPS/ (7 files in 3 dirs): StatBlocks_DPS: initial commit
05:25.47Yssarilis there a function that will give you the 'danger' color between your level and another? say mylvl +5 would be red mylevel-5 would be gray and so on?
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05:31.31Parniccan anyone tell me the dogtag-3.0 version of :FixCodeStyle ?
05:32.05VonhintenHOME`So, what's the story with omen and threat 2.0, why's it so borked?
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05:32.59CIA-1003isler * r67804 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Foglight/Foglight.lua:
05:32.59CIA-10Cartographer:
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05:34.00AntiarcVonhintenHOME`: People not updated is most likely
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05:34.08AntiarcThe latest builds have been pretty stable
05:34.34VonhintenHOME`I took 20 minutes out of my raid to get everyone on the same version, and it was still borked
05:34.43YssarilVonhintenHOME`, and cause its still in beta and its a very big project and you shouldnt asked why its borked but rhater how you can help
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05:35.50AntiarcWell, can you elaborate on what's borked?
05:35.55AntiarcBehavior, stack traces, etc?
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05:36.21durcynAntiarc: no, it's "borked", man.  you gotta unbork it.
05:36.40VonhintenHOME`borked, it's a technical term
05:36.44durcynfind *.lua | while read i ; do sed -i -e "s/bork//g" $i ; done
05:36.49YssarilEllipsis, anyidea how threat colors are generated? i mean the colors when you are lookign at something higher or lower thatn your level going from red to gray
05:36.50durcynthat oughta solve it
05:37.20VonhintenHOME`there's no errors usually, except the occassional one that was happening for a while when you pull agro...
05:37.31VonhintenHOME`it just doesn't show everyone on the meter correctly
05:38.54SnagoYssaril: Check the code for the DogTag [DifficultyColor]
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05:40.16VonhintenHOME`Not quite sure why the omen team decided to unleash a brand spanking new version of omen on top of an already large destabilizing change to combat log parsing...
05:40.39AntiarcWell, the Omen team is just me :P
05:40.50YssarilVonhintenHOME`, because it only made sense to do it and there is no team :P
05:40.53durcynbecause the combat log parsing is the reason omen had to be rewritten
05:40.56AntiarcAnd it's because I was moving ThreatLib from Ace2 to Ace3, and didn't want people to be running two frameworks for one mod.
05:40.59durcynwell, threat rather
05:41.15Yssarilnew stuff is largly incompatible to the old stuff so omen needed a rewrite anyways
05:41.16durcynand once you've got the library, ui is fluff
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05:42.26EllipsisYssaril: I'd check Blizz UI for their difficulty coloring function, or you can steal dogtag's
05:43.51YssarilEllipsis, ty
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05:44.23VonhintenHOME`Why doesn't wowace have stable versions btw?
05:44.37Xinhuanbecause bugs are found everyday
05:44.47YssarilVonhintenHOME`, if you read the website nothing on wowace is 'stable' its all in beta
05:44.49Xinhuanand fixing the bugs causes new bugs
05:45.26YssarilVonhintenHOME`, for stable versions go to curse or wowinterface and get it from there when the author releases it there
05:45.35VonhintenHOME`What kinda crap is that?  Software always has bugs, that doesn't preclude you from saying "this version is stable enough"
05:45.41durcynbasically, WAU was a mistake
05:46.10VonhintenHOME`It wasn't a mistake, having WAU pull the latest bloody dev cut was a mistake
05:46.14Nandiniif you are downloading from files.wowace.com, you are choosing to download cutting edge versions that haven't usually been fully tested, there are release sites if you prefer less frequently updated, generally more stable releases
05:46.16Xinhuanpoint is, ever since 2.4, there hasn't been a stable version
05:46.23YssarilVonhintenHOME`, wowace is a development site it was never meant to be a realease site if you chose to download form there you also get the risks that are part of getting beta versions
05:46.25Xinhuanso there is no "stable version" so to speak
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05:46.55XinhuanYssaril, the problem with telling people not to download from wowace is that every other site tends to have outdated addons
05:46.56durcynno, WAU was a mistake.  exposing svn to end-users in an automated way is damaging
05:47.06Xinhuanan example is cartographer
05:47.07AntiarcMy "stable version releases" are on Curse and WowI
05:47.12AntiarcExcept those tend to lag a bit :P
05:47.29VonhintenHOME`yeah, we used the curse version tonight for our raid... it was... not good
05:47.33YssarilXinhuan, true but still valid as far as everything on wowace can be considered unstable
05:47.35Ellipsisoh good, it's been a whole hour since the last svn structure debate
05:47.39AntiarcThe curse version is way out of date
05:47.44AntiarcI'm going to update it now, actually :)
05:47.56XinhuanYssaril, maybe that's why many authors hate WAU?
05:48.09Yssarilpretty much
05:48.13durcynjust need to add an eula.txt to every zip file, "by downloading this software you consent to beta test, thanks bunches, hugs and kisses xoxoxo"
05:48.30NandiniYssaril, that's why many authors choose not to use the wowace svn for their development
05:48.40VonhintenHOME`declaring something as beta has little to do with how people are going to use your stuff ;)
05:48.48Nandinia perfectly valid choice, and those authors are still well-respected around here :)
05:49.01KaaosaNobody is respected around here :[
05:49.07durcynbut that's the point, it is beta code pulled from a development repository.
05:49.08VonhintenHOME`people are going to keep using WAU until its crippled...
05:49.23VonhintenHOME`you can fight it, or you can live with it, and make it less painful
05:49.35VonhintenHOME`see: RIAA
05:49.41durcynany expectation of functionality is self-deluding after that
05:49.41KaaosaWhat.
05:50.07NandiniVonhintenHOME`: if you downloaded a beta version of say, Linux, or Vista, or WoW, would you run bitching to their chat room when the beta didn't work exactly as you felt it should? or would you compose a well thought out bug report or feature request and submit it to them?
05:50.52durcynhere, let's draw an analogy:  wowace.com, and thusly files.wowace.com, and thusly WAU (for the time being) is, let's say, the equivalent of the blizzard test realm.  perfect, it aint, and it's not meant to be.
05:51.04Nandinicomplaints are likely to cause little action, whereas meaningful feedback in the appropriate places will
05:51.05VonhintenHOME`lol, I'm an engineer as a career, the whole "it's a beta" argument is falling on deaf ears... software has to get released, and its all buggy
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05:51.16KaaosaThe software does get released.
05:51.24KaaosaHowever, WoWace is not where it is "released"
05:51.32KaaosaWoWace is where it is tested.
05:51.37durcynso, you have two choices, sir.  you can 1, join this irc channel and say "omen is borked", or you can provide antiarc with meaningful bug reports and maybe even stack traces of errors, eh?
05:51.38VonhintenHOME`really?  coulda fooled me :)
05:51.43MentalPowerCurse/WoWI is where its released
05:51.54Odlawexcept for people who don't 'release' their code on other 'release' sites.. they use wowace to 'release' it.. god i hate using 's
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05:51.59KaaosaIt seems like anybody could fool you.
05:52.01durcynjust saying it's "borked" is nonuseful
05:52.27durcynand no, it's not a technical term, it's jargon, tyvm
05:52.46kebinusanJust stop callin ghtem error messages, Contratulations! you broke this piece of software in a new and unexpected way
05:53.02VonhintenHOME`yeah, that was sarcasm
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05:53.17Nandinibtw, Antiarc and nevcairiel, omen worked flawlessly for us tonight in Gruul's, Mag, and TK (knockbacks from VR seemed to be perfectly factored)
05:53.30VonhintenHOME`I'm not here to give you shit... (well maybe a bit, since there seems to be a breaking change to serialization or communication or some such thing every hour...)
05:54.08durcynVonhintenHOME`: what part of "under development" and "rewritten from scratch due to massive API changes in 2.4" remains unclear?
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05:54.26kebinusanIt certainly can be disruptive, I had sorta been against KTM forever but realized with 2.4 how much Ive come to rely on omen not to get myself killed in raids
05:54.46kebinusanbut eh, comes with the turf
05:54.58WobWorkdoes KTM work perfectly now?
05:55.08kebinusanId unno WobWork I wouldnt touch it
05:55.09EllipsisKTM always works perfectly, never question it
05:55.23MentalPowerEllipsis: lol :P)
05:55.28kebinusanEllipsis: There seems to be a bitter taste to my koolaid
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05:55.37Nandinichug! chug! chug!
05:55.37durcynAntiarc: btw, have you heard anything about the felmyst aggro reset having an event or emote added in 2.4.2?
05:55.38Ellipsisif chuck norris were a threat meter, he'd be KTM
05:55.48MentalPowerlol!
05:55.50Temif you can't raid at all without a threat meter, I personally think you need to l2p
05:56.06MentalPoweragrees with Tem
05:56.20durcynTem: tell that to brutallus
05:56.26TemI think threat meters are neat information displays
05:56.32Tembut not vital to raid performance
05:56.50Temdurcyn, not familliar with the encounter
05:56.51kebinusanThere are a fair number of aggro sensitive fights where I would say they are fairly vital to raid performance
05:56.51VonhintenHOME`I already brought it up, but, fixing the existing omen client and threat lib to work with the changed chat logging would have left people in a much more consistent state... instead of redoing all of it under ace3
05:57.02kebinusanI can raid w/o bartender.. but I really wouldnt want to
05:57.10TemVonhintenHOME`, no
05:57.12Temjust no
05:57.20NandiniVonhintenHOME`: you misunderstand, there is no "fixing the existing omen client and threat lib"
05:57.34Tempeople in this channel have been too nice to you so far.
05:57.58Nandinithere is no way to make the old combat log parser interface with the new combat log in any meaningful or accurate fashion
05:58.09Nandiniattempts were made by many people, and they failed
05:58.10durcynVonhintenHOME`: then the kvetching would just be shifted to a different date.
05:58.33durcynalso, since ace2 is effectively deprecated at this point, writing new code for old libs is a non-starter for most
05:59.03VonhintenHOME`welcome to the world
05:59.09Nandinithe combat log change in 2.4 was the biggest change since the introduction of secure templates, i'd wager
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05:59.21Nandiniin terms of impact on addons
05:59.29durcynnah, don't get punchy now, you're the one who asked
05:59.52VonhintenHOME`In software, sometimes you gotta do shit that you don't like, to appease the client
05:59.59durcynand really, writing addon code for a video game?  if the user has a bumpy experience, i'm pretty sure they can get the hell over it.
06:00.01kebinusanVonhintenHOME, www.lua.org get crackin
06:00.04JJSheetsis back (gone 04:01:43)
06:00.13Cryectwhat client?
06:00.25CryectI think most people develop addons for themselves and decide to share with others
06:00.25durcyni'm pretty sure no one pays Antiarc for his efforts here, bub.
06:00.37Nandiniit took months after the introduction of secure templates for "stable" addons to appear using those features, partly because they were new features, and partly because blizzard didn't implement them perfectly on their first try either
06:00.56durcynalso, users can blow it out their ass, this is at the end of it all, a video game.
06:00.58KaaosaVonhintenHOME`, you've got a weird sense of entitlement over free addons for a videogame.
06:01.04Nandinithe same is true with the combat log changes, you're lucky to have ANY kind of threat meters or damage meters, regardless of their accuracy
06:01.08Cryectif you want to see a good current example of blizzard not using a new feature look at the combat lgo
06:01.23Cryectnot using a new feature well that is
06:01.44VonhintenHOME`Well, you could treat everything as academic... you could treat everything like its just hobby and that no one is really affected...
06:01.47kebinusanlets save 10000000000 events and parse them every time you click the tab
06:01.52VonhintenHOME`sure, you've got no paying clients...
06:02.02durcynVonhintenHOME`: BECAUSE IT'S A HOBBY OK
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06:02.09Nandinimost of the well-written code for the combat log was actually suggested or written by people in this chat room, the rest of the messy part was done by blizzard devs
06:02.14CIA-1003ckknight * r67805 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Categories/TextManip.lua test.lua): LibDogTag-3.0 - add a Replace tag.
06:02.55VonhintenHOME`The reality is, hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions are affected by the stuff you do... it only makes sense to treat it like you would if you were developing for paying clients
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06:03.07KaaosaNo.
06:03.12YssarilEllipsis, btw thanks that worked perfectly notice the lovely danger coded questnames in http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9651/wowscrnshot040308005820de7.jpg :)
06:03.14kebinusanheh
06:03.16VonhintenHOME`if anything, for the satisfaction of knowing that everyone likes what you did, and is sticking with your stuff
06:03.17durcynnah, pass.
06:03.43KaaosaVonhintenHOME`, work is being done to fix what issues there are.
06:03.45kebinusanVonhintenHOME`: If someone gets seriously pissed enough at something you do they will write something themselves and offer it as a replacement
06:03.57KaaosaIf you don't like how it's done, frankly, too bad.
06:03.57kebinusanother than that, this is a hobby
06:03.59NandiniVonhintenHOME` if you don't like what is done, don't stick with it, and use an alternative, that should satisfy you
06:04.24Nandinithere's always KTM, as someone mentioned :)
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06:05.47Parniccan anyone tell me how to load LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 alongside LibDogTag-3.0?
06:05.55Nandinior, do stick with it and provide useful feedback that consists of more than "borked" and "numbers way off"
06:05.59kebinusanIm sure if you communicate to blizzard how you pay 15 dollars a month to play and are unable to do so because hobbyists have not written a satisfactory threat meter.. they'll get right on that for you
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06:06.11Parnici have DogTag = AceLibrary("LibDogTag-3.0"), but it's not recognizing any unit tags
06:06.38durcynParnic: well, for one, the unit tags are in LibDogTag-Unit
06:06.44Arrowmasterwhy are you using AceLibrary()?
06:06.47Parnicright
06:06.51Parnicbecause i'm still on ace2 in my mod
06:06.55Nandinikebinusan: good point, blizzard has their own threat viewer that runs alongside their testing clients, perhaps they should just release that to the public
06:06.58CIA-1003Silverstorm * r67806 10StatBlocks_Honor/ (7 files in 3 dirs): StatBlocks_Honor: initial import
06:07.00Parnicshould i be using LibStub?
06:07.07Arrowmasterprobably
06:07.17ckknightParnic: you need to load LibDogTag-Unit-3.0
06:07.32Parnicok so ignore LibDogTag altogether and go straight for -Unit?
06:07.34VonhintenHOME`Well, unfortunately, I'm a c++ and c# programmer, and while I can waddle my way through lua and debug small problems, I don't know enough about it to help... which means, I can't tell you specifically what is wrong in your communication or serialization or parsing or whatever layers
06:07.37ckknightno, Parnic
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06:08.07ckknightParnic: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 just adds tags into the "Unit" namespace, which can be accessed with LibDogTag-3.0
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06:08.15Yssarilnight all
06:08.20JJSheetsnight
06:08.23durcynVonhintenHOME`: yes, but you should be able to manage better than "borked".  like, tell us the versions you were using and what the symptoms were.  and "stuff not showing up", really, come on.
06:08.27Parnicok so when i register my fontstring, does it need to register with "Unit" or can i specify my own?
06:08.30Nandiniuseful feedback for Omen/Threat might include "during the XYZ encounter, at the transition from P1 to P2, threat was not cleared for all players" or "players with r12345 were showing approximately double the threat we expected to see"
06:08.32Parnici keep getting "unknown tag"
06:08.40ckknightParnic: you need to register with the Unit namespace
06:08.48ckknightsee the API documentation if need be
06:08.59Parnici didn't know it was available
06:09.10ArrowmasterParnic: so.... LoadAddOn("LibDogTag-Unit-3.0"); DogTag = LibStub("LibDogTag-3.0")
06:09.10CIA-1003Silverstorm * r67807 10StatBlocks_Honor/ (. libs/): StatBlocks_Honor: setting externals
06:09.19ckknightnot like I was hiding it
06:09.20KaaosaVonhintenHOME`, as a programmer you ought to realized how entirely useless it is for someone to file a bug report that says only "software doesn't work"
06:09.20ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-3.0/API_Documentation
06:09.35VonhintenHOME`That would be good feedback... how about "I'm the only one listed on omen"  or  "How come this Unknown guy is doing more threat than me?"
06:09.41Parnici should rephrase; wowace's search didn't find it :) thanks for the help guys
06:09.54durcynhm, if you're still seeing Unkown, then someone's out of date
06:10.02Nandinithat is good feedback, especially if you include the revisions of other players in your raid
06:10.17Nandiniactually, only if you include your revision and theirs
06:10.20VonhintenHOME`lol... 25 people, each one had a different revision ;)
06:10.25VonhintenHOME`thanks WAU
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06:10.33AythYour problem is user error
06:10.41KaaosaWell then have them all update just before raid time if they all use WAU
06:11.00KaaosaThat way they get the same version.
06:11.01JJSheetsPEBKAC error.
06:11.11JJSheetsaka ID10T error.
06:11.14VonhintenHOME`You overestimate your average user
06:11.24Ayth<PROTECTED>
06:11.24KaaosaNot really.
06:11.31Nandinifor tonight's raid, we purposedly scheduled it to begin 15 minutes early and walked each player through downloading and installing a specific version of omen, after they restarted, we verified that they had the correct version and moved on to the next player
06:11.38Arrowmasterdamnit where the hell is kergoth i want to show him this code
06:12.01Nandinithat 15 minutes probably saved us at least 1 or 2 wipes, so i'd consider it 15 minutes well spent
06:12.17CIA-1003scorpion * r67808 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua:
06:12.18CIA-10LittleWigs:
06:12.18CIA-10- zhTW Update
06:12.27ckknightJJSheets: you can't do it like that
06:12.29VonhintenHOME`I did the same thing, but we used the version on Curse.
06:12.37ckknightyou gotta be Error ID: 10t
06:12.41VonhintenHOME`as already pointed out, it's outdated
06:12.44JJSheetsckknight, lol
06:12.50ckknightdoing it all in one block makes it too visible
06:12.56JJSheetsyeah, it's best when said aloud.
06:13.17ckknightpeople will know what ID10T means in this SMS world we live in
06:13.26Nandinii chose a less-than-current revision, but it was one i had tested earlier in kara, so i had confidence that it would work for our 25 man raids tonight
06:13.32JJSheetslol
06:13.41VonhintenHOME`So, onto more constructive things... when do you anticipate adding column ordering back to Omen?
06:14.13Arrowmasterwhen its done?
06:14.35Aythless then current version seems... not ideal
06:14.51WobWorkAyth: depends on what the current fixes are for
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06:15.00Nandiniit was only 2 revisions old, and as i said, i had tested it earlier in a 10-man raid
06:15.22Aythwhat if the fixes had been for a class/spec/skill not represented in your 10 man?
06:15.32Ayth<shrugs>
06:15.34VonhintenHOME`Hey Tekkub, why google code man?  Quecho is the only bloody addon I have that I can't get through WAU...
06:15.43Arrowmasterso im on like my 3rd or 4th version of this little bit of code and now to redo it again to try and get a better effect
06:15.44durcynVonhintenHOME`: svn co
06:15.49durcynget smart or get out
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06:16.11Mytoswhats up kiddies
06:16.12CIA-1003Silverstorm * r67809 10StatBlocks_MeleeStats/ (7 files in 3 dirs): StatBlocks_MeleeStats: initial import
06:16.32Mytosso yea, i have the best girlfriend ever
06:16.39KaaosaOh
06:16.43Mytosshe just knitted me a fedora
06:16.43NandiniAyth: then we might have encountered problems, but i was mostly concerned that there were no comm errors
06:16.49ArrowmasterVonhintenHOME`: because he doesnt want his addons on wowace
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06:17.05durcynhm actually, that'd be a git clone anymore
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06:18.48NandiniAyth: and by choosing a revision that i knew had no comm problems, it would have made it easier for us to identify any bad class or spec or skill calculations later in the 25-man raids
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06:19.11Nandinii didn't identify any though, everything was pretty smooth
06:19.22WobWorkdurcyn: yeah, he's on git now
06:19.26AythI tend to go by the logic that if there was a threat lib update... it's worth updating for ^^
06:19.36CIA-1003Silverstorm * r67811 10StatBlocks_RangedStats/ (7 files in 3 dirs): StatBlocks_RangedStats: initial import
06:19.39OlisonOh lawd :D Ace2 changelog, ckknight clearly won
06:19.45Olisoncheers at Antiarc
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06:20.00WobWorkAyth: meh, if it's for something that only T6 people are going to be concerned about, I won't worry about updating =P
06:20.20AythWell... I'm one of those people... so... maybe that's why I update =p
06:20.39WobWorkall good then =)
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06:20.47NandiniWobWork: correct! close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, nuclear warfare, and The Sunwell :)
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06:23.17AythHere's a question though... why would one druid tank have funky threat in omen while another druid tank is fine... he's on the same version as reported by versioncheck and supposedly has trashed his wtf files
06:24.02WobWorkBO?
06:24.13AythMaybe
06:24.20Ayth-_-
06:24.31WobWorkhot sweaty bears...
06:24.33NandiniThat's a good question, Ayth. Can you define "funky threat" a little more precisely? :)
06:25.08AythHe use to have a rediculous amount of threat on pull.  On the most recent version, his threat was extremely low while tanking (like 10% of everyone else) yet holding agro just fine.
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06:26.05Nandinithere are three possible causes: 1. his threat was being calculated incorrectly (unlikely if the same revision was calculating more believable threat from a similar druid)
06:26.09AythLike on P2 illidan tonight... he was extremely low offtanking a warglaive, but the war on the other side was fine.
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06:26.49Nandini2. his threat was being communicated wrongly to other players (sounds quite possible)
06:26.49AythWe only had one bear tonight, so I can't be sure... but other nights of two bears his is always 'odd' while hers is norm
06:27.08AythSo I'm leaning torwards he has BO
06:27.13Nandini3. his threat was being displayed incorrectly in the omen window itself (also possible)
06:27.19ramozbo?
06:27.22Nandiniwere both druid tanks using single-target mode
06:27.24Aythbody oder lol
06:27.26WobWorkbody odour =P
06:27.49AythCan't say for sure... if a user changes their mode that changes their threat syncing?
06:27.57ramozLOL
06:28.47Nandinii think threat only sends the threat calculations you have chosen, so it might make a difference, perhaps only his aoe threat (from rage gains) was being sent
06:29.04Xinhuanirrelevant
06:29.11XinhuanThreat-2.0 sends/receives data
06:29.13Xinhuannot Omen
06:29.21AythYa... omen's just front-end for displaying the info
06:29.25XinhuanOmen's mode of display is irrelevant
06:29.46AythI just cross my fingers he doesn't tank ;)
06:29.58Nandiniahh ok, threat sends all its threat data then, omen displays it differently based on YOUR mode and target?
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06:30.09AythThat sounds right
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06:31.16Xinhuancan you guys try to sniff itemIDs 18584, 18583, 18582
06:31.23Xinhuanon your servers and see if you get anything
06:31.40Aythhow do you? =p
06:31.56Nandinithey're all on my realm (Mal'Ganis-US)
06:32.11AntiarcXinhuan: Nada
06:32.19OrionshockXinhuan: what u looking for?
06:32.30Orionshock<PROTECTED>
06:32.37Xinhuanit appears to be of a rarity that is above legendary
06:32.38Ayththough this works:  http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=18584
06:32.41Xinhuanand the color is beige
06:32.57nevcairielsomeone probably linked the spell that combines both sides, that unlocks them for linking
06:33.04Xinhuancorrect
06:33.08Aythamusingly enough the one I linked dropped tonight =p
06:33.48Xinhuanso artifact color isnt' red, its beige? hehe
06:34.00nevcairielmaybe they changed it around
06:34.10nevcairielartifact items were never ingame
06:34.11Aythactually those are weird... those aren't the real glaives
06:34.29Xinhuanwell GetItemInfo returns their rarity as 6
06:34.46Nandinithey're GM weapons i think
06:35.23OrionshockXinhuan: i just get "Retriving Item Info" in the tt
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06:35.33Aythapparently those were in before BC too
06:35.39Xinhuanlog on US blackrock, its linkable on my server hehe
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06:35.50AythI'm sure Gms like to play with them
06:35.52Orionshocklol
06:35.54Nandinithere must have been a GM on my realm who played with them
06:36.09nevcairielNandini: nah the weapons get unlocked if you linka certain spell
06:36.14nevcairieland spells are always linkable
06:36.27Nandinioh that puts them in the server cache?
06:36.31AythIf I was a GM i'd play with them =p
06:36.46nevcairieliirc they look shit
06:36.50nevcairielway too small
06:36.52Nandinii'll link The Breaking in trade chat and cause a ruckus :P
06:37.37Nandinialthough i can link the individual parts anyways, someone must have done it already
06:38.06Ayththe legendaries are cool enough =p
06:38.07VonhintenHOME`So, how good is the new chat logging?  Is it still prone to not pick up all events around you?
06:40.03Nandiniyou mean blizzard writing the chat log to disk for you? or the combat log specifically?
06:40.12exor674it'd be totally fun to link this spellid in trade <_< 45260
06:40.23Aythwhich spell is that?
06:40.32VonhintenHOME`Well, for instance, do DPS meters need to sync to be accurate in a raid still
06:40.36nevcairielKarazhan - Chess - Force Player to Kill Bunny
06:41.17Nandinithey need to sync when someone joins or leaves, and for certain pet/elemental events to get new GUIDs
06:41.19NeoTron<PROTECTED>
06:41.37Aythor for fights like the first boss of sunwell
06:41.40Ayth(needs to sync)
06:41.43exor674poor bunnies
06:41.47nevcairielNeoTron: i'm pretty sure you can get that NeoTron
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06:42.02AythYou dont notice yourself light on fire?
06:42.11NeoTronit didn't
06:42.21NeoTronnot if you concentrate on leading the raid and dpsing ot the max, no
06:42.25NeoTronI don't look at ME
06:42.27breserAnyone ever think about putting together a list of what addons are using what slashcommand names on wowwiki so we can avoid trouncing on each other?
06:42.41AythI have my debuffs right next to where I stare for max dps =p
06:42.48Nandinibreser: solution: don't use slash commands
06:42.51Aythwhich is also near my burning model lol
06:42.51NeoTronit definitely didn't shake and bake but I do see it in the file
06:43.13breserNandini: Doesn't change that people still do.
06:43.13Nandinialso, don't use the name of another author's addon :D
06:43.20VonhintenHOME`I'm with that... stop the slash command madness.. use the new addon config interface, or at least the addon preference (rock?) ui
06:43.43breserNandini: Yeah well some addons use abbreviations like RatingBuster uses /rb
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06:44.04Aytha lot of people like slash commands...
06:44.18Nandinipick something that works for you and you think will work well for other users, and if you get a complaint, change it
06:45.05NandiniAuth, i agree. /omen versioncheck outdated is much quicker than finding it in a menu :)
06:45.09breserYou know I wasn't asking for advice on how to pick a name or if slashcommands were good.  I was asking if anyone had thought about a list to try to avoid two addons using the same command names to avoid conflicts...
06:45.13exor674Blizzard needs to treat bunnies better!
06:45.29Nandinibreser: it appears you have thought about it, does that answer your question?
06:45.41NeoTronso it is supposed to warn me
06:45.43NeoTronbut it didn't do it
06:46.13Nandinihere's a list: WheresMyCow and CowTip both claim /cow
06:46.30Aythobviously cows are too popular... nerf cows
06:46.31NandiniWheresMyCow wins, don't ask me why or how
06:47.00breserWTF does WheresMyCow do?
06:47.10VonhintenHOME`locates your cow, clearly
06:47.14[eu]gunderit finds yours cow
06:47.45Nandinilists frame names for a specific addon (if you've included special debugging code in it) or just lists all frames under the cursor in a tooltip
06:48.26Nandiniit just does a recursive GetChildren() and puts it in a tooltip
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06:48.41Nandinior GetParent() as the case may be
06:49.12Arrowmasterso nothing new for those of us with DevTools installed
06:49.18Nandiniit doesn't work perfectly anymore, lots of nil errors
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06:49.59Nandinii only installed it because i was curious what it did. heheh
06:50.11Xinhuani don't have either Cow or devtools installed
06:50.12Xinhuan;p
06:50.27Xinhuandon't really need something i can type in a /run command ;p
06:51.46Nandinii'd rather hold down ctrl-alt and just read in a tree structured tooltip :)
06:52.15Nandinibut the frames i was looking for were unnamed, so i had to iterate them anyways in code and find a property i knew for them
06:52.23KuraxIs that what WMC doing?
06:52.51NandiniKurax: i'm sure devtools has something that does the same thing better, WMC seems to be very old
06:53.08durcyneh, age doesn't mean anything
06:53.19KuraxBah, seems I wasted devtools, all I can do is /dump lol
06:53.23Nandiniplus its penchant for comparing things to nil
06:53.38NeoTronman we'er so far away from having the depeeess needed for brutallus
06:53.50NeoTronbut then again we aren't really using consumables (stuff that perish when you die)
06:53.59NeoTronhave to survive first
06:54.00durcynNeoTron: how many warglaives, how many destro warlocks?
06:54.09Xinhuanwell you don't really need DevTools if you have at least one Ace2 addon, ace2 already comes with /dump
06:54.15Xinhuanso they just override each other
06:54.24Xinhuanand you probably end up with the ace2 version
06:54.29Orionshock^^ annoying as fk btw :P
06:54.29Arrowmasterno
06:54.39KuraxAce2 got /dump?
06:54.42ArrowmasterAce2 doesnt set /dump if you have DevTools enabled
06:54.46Arrowmasterbut Rock does!
06:54.50Xinhuanyep
06:54.51Kurax..lol
06:54.54Xinhuanboth Ace2 and Rock core has /dump
06:55.06KuraxGuess I need back to school
06:55.21Nandiniwhee i need sleep! where's my cow? i mean bed!
06:55.58AbsoRaynehttp://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F234828.png Any suggestions guys n gals?
06:56.00KuraxAll I use with Ace or Rock are /print and /rl
06:56.18Nandinimust actually play wow tomorrow to farm those elusive and suddenly expensive consumables
06:56.23Arrowmastermy /print is overwriten by Ace3
06:56.31JaxonNandini: or do some dailies.  Like five.
06:56.35Xinhuan/dump is actually more powerful than /print
06:56.56Nandiniscroll of (anything except stam) v are going for 10g each on my realm
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06:57.09KuraxI noticed that so I installed DevTools and now you told me Ace2 can do that too
06:57.17JaxonBah, Scrolls.  Take up fishing.
06:57.19Kuraxdies
06:57.44Nandinithat's what i do :) fish zanarmarsh for an hour, but i always get int scrolls, i try and trade them for agi/str
06:58.10Nandiniit used to be you could open a scroll case and not loot it, and relog if you didn't like what you got
06:58.21Nandinibut that trick doesn't seem to work for me anymore
06:58.22CIA-1003zhucc * r67813 10Elephant/Locale-zhTW.lua: Elephant:zhTW update
06:58.39Nandiniand my arrakoa vendor friend doesn't ever have scrolls in stock anymore either, i wonder if those were removed in skettis
07:01.05JaxonBah, who needs scrolls anyways
07:01.43VonhintenHOME`so many fel lotus drops now, I just use a flask and call it a day
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07:05.09CIA-1003antiarc * r67814 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ClassModules/ (Druid.lua Paladin.lua Warrior.lua): Threat-2.0: Add an isTanking flag to tank class modules, for consumption by UIs.
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07:06.12CIA-1003antiarc * r67815 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: Add an isTanking check for warnings. Add a 2.5-second target switch buffer before any warnings will be fired.
07:06.27VonhintenHOME`nicely done
07:06.44VonhintenHOME`That's been on my gripe list for a while
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07:06.55AntiarcMine too :)
07:07.03AntiarcI've just had bigger fish to fry
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07:07.12VonhintenHOME`understandable
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07:08.24VonhintenHOME`That gonna tie into ora2 or something?
07:08.28VonhintenHOME`main tanks?
07:08.41JaxonQuickest way to powerlevel?  Helping with quests or instances?
07:08.51AbsoRaynePALI AOE GRINDING
07:08.57Zyuu-Cursebring a mage or paladin
07:09.02Zyuu-Cursetag 5000 mobs
07:09.08Zyuu-Cursefinish them off with the mage or paladin
07:09.09AntiarcNah, it just checks for druids in bear form, paladins with RF up (which isn't great, ugh, but there's not much better to do) or warriors in defensive stance
07:09.12Zyuu-Curserince and repeat
07:09.20Zyuu-Curse(do not stay grouped of course)
07:09.24OrionshockAbsoRayne: reroll horde, that's my only sugestion :D
07:09.27Xinhuanare you able to detect mage tanking?
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07:09.37AntiarcI don't know how I would.
07:09.44Xinhuanmake special cases for Krosh
07:09.47Xinhuanand that council girl
07:09.48VonhintenHOME`yeah, I often put my RF (imp RF too) when I'm holy, just for the 6% reduction, knowing I won't have a threat problem most fights
07:09.49AntiarcUgh.
07:09.51AbsoRayneAntiarc: I was going to say, I noticed that Heroic Strike was yielding me the same TPS in battle stance as defensive
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07:10.04Xinhuanalso
07:10.10AntiarcVonhintenHOME`: But, if it's a fight you don't expect aggro issues on, warnings are amoot point anyhow :)
07:10.17AntiarcAbsoRayne: I'll check it.
07:10.23Xinhuanwhoever has the debuff in Gurtogg is tanking in p2, and whoever has red beam in Netherspite ;p
07:10.30Xinhuantoo many special cases now? hehe
07:10.34CIA-1003parnic * r67817 10IceHUD/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
07:10.34CIA-10IceHUD:
07:10.34CIA-10- updated to support LibDogTag-3.0
07:10.34CIA-10- on first run, forced reset all custom DogTags to the module default since some of the old default tags no longer work
07:10.35VonhintenHOME`well, some fights a warning could still save my ass :)
07:10.43AntiarcHrm.
07:10.49AntiarcGuess I need a GUI option to toggle that off then.
07:10.52AntiarcWhich isn't hard.
07:11.01durcynwhy code for edge cases?  you know they're edge cases, just look at the other bar, ffs.
07:11.10VonhintenHOME`yeah, I dunno if its that important
07:11.15VonhintenHOME`for a simple feature
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07:12.22CIA-10Socialist:
07:12.22CIA-10<PROTECTED>
07:12.22CIA-10<PROTECTED>
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07:12.40VonhintenHOME`it's probably stupid to have imp RF on as holy.. I usually only do it in kara, when we're half-assing a badge run
07:13.09Xinhuanoh it might be "necessary"
07:13.14Xinhuanremember nightbane?
07:13.20Xinhuanback when everyone is still in lvl 70 blues
07:13.53AntiarcAbsoRayne: Just tested, 156.8 extra threat from HS in Battle, 254.8 extra threat in Defensive
07:14.13Xinhuantekkub, ping
07:14.14Antiarc(33/28)
07:14.28Tekkubwut
07:14.43Xinhuanyour latest commit to quelevel to add the quest level to the questlinks
07:14.49Xinhuanbroke tek-hover
07:14.55Xinhuanand also broke clicking on the links
07:15.12Xinhuani.e they are not clickable to show the tooltip, nor does hovertips work
07:15.13Tekkubk
07:15.38CIA-1003parnic * r67819 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua:
07:15.38CIA-10IceHUD:
07:15.38CIA-10- whoops, update targetinfo dogtag to display the word "Combat" when in combat instead of "True"
07:16.07VonhintenHOME`who owns cowtip?
07:16.19Gngskckknight
07:16.20Tekkubhrm... no error even, nice
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07:16.36Apocois there a way to get a spellid from spell name/rank?
07:16.52AntiarcNot easily.
07:16.57AntiarcIterate a list of possible spell IDs
07:16.59AntiarcSearch for a match.
07:17.01Arrowmasteri fucking swear im about to put my WTF directory under version control due to this god damn bug where it sometimes cant read the file on load but can rewrite it with the defaults
07:17.01AntiarcYes, it sucks.
07:17.04Apoco.....
07:17.07Apocofuck that
07:17.09Zeksieexpect many matches
07:17.14VonhintenHOME`ckknight, Line text inteface makes baby jesus cry, any backlog item to make the lines rearrangable?
07:17.57ApocoAntiarc > sig armory is dead :(
07:17.57AntiarcYeah, Bibi's moving it
07:17.57AntiarcGive DNS a bit to update
07:17.57Apocokk
07:18.00durcynArrowmaster: i rsync backups out after the last such fuckup
07:18.42Apocolooks like I need to use BabbleSpell still then
07:18.42Apoco;(
07:18.52AntiarcWhat are you doing?
07:18.56Fisker-i backup my WTF as well
07:19.01Fisker-used SVN for it at some point as well
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07:19.07CIA-1003cronan * r67820 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua:
07:19.07CIA-10Threat-2.0:
07:19.07CIA-10- Illidan: Wipe threats for human phase
07:19.08durcynApoco: replace BS["SpelLName"] with GetSpellInfo(foo), done.  
07:19.10Fisker-but figured it was kinda overkill
07:19.13Arrowmasteri have copies of all the files that keep getting messed up
07:19.33Xinhuanwell babblespell is still used by a major addon - RatingBuster, i can't get rid of it
07:19.37Arrowmasterits always the ones in my character dir
07:20.11durcynXinhuan: one of these days we need to have the Great BS Purge of 2008.  It'll be ironic, in more than just name!
07:20.12ApocoAntiarc> Populating a list to track shared cooldowns for RBM
07:20.12Fisker-kinda annoying that Blizzard doesn't do it for us
07:20.22Xinhuancheck disk for sector errors?
07:20.24KuraxI know I'm sorta boring, but translation for DogTag syntax tutorial is done, phew
07:20.29Xinhuanor physical errors
07:20.39Arrowmastersaidly i think i do have some
07:20.43Apocobut the list populates by scanning the spellbook, and if I can't easily get the spell id, I can't group spell id's together to share a cooldown
07:20.56durcynApoco: the only purpose of BS is localization, so the first return of GetSpellInfo fulfills the same task.
07:21.03ArrowmasterApoco: you can get the spellid directly from the spellbook
07:21.04durcynyou can still scan the spellbook with that
07:21.22ApocoArrowmaster: how?
07:21.29durcynhm, i'd still say use the name, since spellIDs are unique per rank
07:21.38Antiarc<PROTECTED>
07:21.40Arrowmasterget the name and rank from spellbook
07:21.43AntiarcWorks if it's in your spellbook.
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07:21.51Apocothat doesn't return the real spell id
07:21.56Apocojust the id of it in the book
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07:22.05Apocothat id ~= the id sent through the combat log
07:22.14ArrowmasterGetSpellInfo(name.." ("..rank..")")
07:22.25NivFreaksooo
07:22.25Zeksieif you want it to work over all classes, you HAVE to give spell id
07:22.36NivFreakyou know how blizzard changed it so that when you jump in water, you submerge?
07:22.38NivFreakin 2.4
07:22.48durcynApoco: give us an idea of how you're using BS now, please
07:22.56durcyni.e. line numbers
07:23.00NivFreakwell
07:23.04NivFreakI was tanking lurker tonight
07:23.06NivFreakjumped in
07:23.12NivFreakand sank to the floor...
07:23.14mitch0apoco: you have some static list with spellnames?
07:23.26Apocomitch0 yes
07:23.30VonhintenHOME`Antiarc, any plans to adds size and position of omen to the profile?
07:23.33Apocodurcyn: I'm not using it...yet
07:23.38mitch0apoco: well, then just replace those with the spellids
07:23.40AntiarcVonhintenHOME`: I need to, yes.
07:23.49VonhintenHOME`thanks
07:23.55mitch0apoco: you can get the spellid from wowhead, for example
07:24.09mitch0(or threat-2.0, at least I've heard it got most of the spellids there :)
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07:24.19ApocoI'm aware I can get the ID's from wowhead etc
07:24.22durcynApoco: well, the immediate usage is for localization of names
07:24.35mitch0apoco: so? what's the issue then?
07:24.47AbsoRaynefrick im tired now
07:25.03VonhintenHOME`Antiarc, also, column ordering (or column offsets) coming back too?
07:25.12Xinhuanif you have the spellID, you can always get the localized name for it with GetSpellInfo() or something isn't it?
07:25.23AntiarcYup.
07:25.26ApocoThe issue is, when it parses the COMBAT_LOG event, it checks the spell vs a table that is now being created by spell names via scanning spell book, for a match with a table pre-defined.
07:25.33VonhintenHOME`righteo
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07:26.24CIA-1003kurax * r67821 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Help.lua Localization/zhCN.lua): LibDogTag-3.0: Add a zhCN translation for in-game syntax tutorial.
07:26.26Arrowmasterapoco take that table of yours
07:26.26durcynApoco: right, and what's in your pre-defined table
07:26.28Xinhuanwhen you scan the spellbook, can't you get the spellIDs?
07:26.28ArrowmasterGetSpellInfo(name.." ("..rank..")")
07:26.56Apocoand I will have to use BabbleSpell to be able to match the localized name from GetSpellInfo(id) with the name in the predefined tables
07:26.57VonhintenHOME`Antiarc, and if possible the threat value, plans to toggle short/long form?
07:27.08ArrowmasterApoco: LISTEN TO ME
07:27.11ApocoI am listening
07:27.19durcynApoco: populate the predefined tables using the first return of GetSpellInfo(spellID) instead of BS["Spell Name"]
07:27.22mitch0apoco: no. just put the spellids in the predefined table
07:27.24Arrowmasterget the spell name and spell rank form the spellbook
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07:27.32ArrowmasterGetSpellInfo(name.." ("..rank..")")
07:27.40Arrowmasteryou have spell id
07:27.43EllipsisKurax: wow, you are awesome
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07:28.09KuraxEllipsis: Just boring lol
07:28.35mitch0apoco: or even better, only list rank1 spellids in your table than convert that to spellanems (with getspellinfo) on startup (and when new spells are learnt) and match against that table (which now contains the localized names)
07:28.47mitch0apoco: this way you don't have to keep track of every spellrank
07:29.00mitch0(less efficient though on the long run)
07:29.34AntiarcVonhintenHOME`: I thought that was in? Is it not?
07:29.46mitch0the most efficient way is to list all spellids in that table though (that is, all ranks for the given spells)
07:30.04Arrowmasteroh wait its GetSpellInfo(name.."("..rank..")")
07:30.19Arrowmasterthose new functions are very picky on input
07:31.11ApocoArrowmaster: the problem with that is that returns the spellid for the spellbook position (ie: Immolation Trap, Rank 2 for me returns 90, but the real spellid is 14302
07:31.37ApocoI want the 14032 number
07:31.39ArrowmasterApoco: no it doesnt you never even tried my suggestion
07:31.50ApocoI just did it.
07:32.10mitch0GetSpellInfo doesn't even return any sort of id (...?)
07:32.18ArrowmasterGetSpellLink
07:32.22VonhintenHOME`Ant, don't see it, maybe I'm missing it.. I would have thought it'd be under Modules > Single Target Mode > Columns
07:32.41AntiarcLemme check
07:32.41Apocoooo GetSpellLink
07:32.43Apocogood idea
07:33.00ArrowmasterGetSpellLink(rank and name.."("..rank..")" or name):match("spell:(%d+)")
07:33.20mitch0pff
07:33.24AntiarcDoh. Yes. GetSpellLink.
07:33.28ApocoGreat idea
07:33.28AntiarcI knew there was a way to do it :P
07:33.35Apoco:)
07:33.39Arrowmasteri ment that the entire time
07:33.39mitch0I still think it's a lot better to just use the spellids in the static table
07:33.46Arrowmasterits not
07:33.56Apocolol
07:33.57Arrowmasterbecause then you need to update that if spells ever change
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07:34.29mitch0arrow: what do you mean by that? if the spellids change?
07:34.42mitch0with your solution you'll have to update if the spell names change. so?
07:34.49Arrowmasterno you dont
07:34.55Apocomitch0: I'm going to have spellid's in the static table.  The static table includes spells that share cooldowns, not all spells with cooldowns.  The list of all spells with cooldowns is populated by scanning the spellbook.
07:34.59Arrowmasteryou get the name and rank from scanning the spellbook
07:35.28mitch0arrow: I'm talking about the static config table
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07:35.51mitch0aside from that, all is automagic (either with spellink or spellinfo usage)
07:36.14mitch0I don't see why you'd have to update with my solution (apart from updating the static config if necessary)
07:36.16Arrowmasteroh in the static table yeah just use spellids
07:36.50Arrowmasterthought you ment use a static table like babble-spell
07:36.55mitch0no
07:36.56mitch0:)
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07:37.25mitch0static table with spellids -> run-time conversion (once) to spellnames, scan spellbook, use spellnames
07:37.45Apocothe static tables are currently using spell names, unlocalized, but I was going to have to use Babble-Spell to localize, now because of arrows great idea of GetSpellLink, I won't have too.
07:37.49mitch0(I understand what the original problem is now :) you can't get a spellbook -> spellid thing, right?
07:38.19Apococorrect!
07:38.32ApocoSorry I'm a bit drunkish.  lol
07:38.39Apococouldnt sleep, so I needed to code
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07:38.50mitch0ok, I still think spellink is less efficient, although I'm not sure I understand arrow's approach completely
07:39.06mitch0what do you get with GetSpellLink? the spellid?
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07:39.11Arrowmastermy solution gets you spellbook -> spellid
07:39.11Apocowhat it is doing is getting the REAL spellID that gets passed through the combat log
07:39.19mitch0ah
07:39.26Apocowhich is what I needed
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07:39.37mitch0understands now
07:39.45CIA-10Quelevel: 03tekkub 07master * rc882d04b9c 10Quelevel/Quelevel.lua: Fix chat links
07:39.45Arrowmasteralthough my solution might require localization
07:39.58Arrowmasteri dont know if all languages use name(rank)
07:40.07mitch0and it also requires to fill the static table with all ranks of the spell
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07:40.31durcyni still think populating the table with GetSpellInfo(spellID) is more reliable
07:40.32Arrowmasteroh shit
07:40.39ArrowmasterGetSpellLink(name,rank)
07:40.39[SW]Dodgemitch0: whats your problem?
07:40.44Apocothe passive value of GetSpellLink should still be xxxx:spell:id regardless of localization
07:40.50mitch0dodge: it's not mine :)
07:41.08ArrowmasterApoco: yeah nvm what i said about localization, GetSpellLink(name,rank) works
07:41.28Apocohmm
07:41.33[SW]Dodgewho has a problem? :)
07:41.37ApocoGetSpellLink("Freezing Trap", 2) > nil
07:41.54Arrowmasterrank as a string
07:41.55mitch0dodge: apoco
07:42.00Apoconvm
07:42.04Apoco"Rank 2"
07:42.07Apocoit wouldnt be that easy.
07:42.24Arrowmasterwhich is what the spellbook func gives doesnt it?
07:42.24KuraxSo there is no combat log refiner like SimpleCombatLog in 2.4?
07:42.25CIA-1003jerry * r67824 10LibItemBonus-2.0/LibItemBonus-2.0/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
07:42.25CIA-10LibItemBonus-2.0:
07:42.25CIA-10_ catchup with corrections and patterns updated in IBL since the rewrite
07:42.35durcynKurax: not yet.
07:42.37[SW]DodgeApoco: what excactly is your problem? maybe i have a solution^^
07:42.44Apocolol
07:42.49Apocogod hates me today.
07:42.51KuraxLame =/ I should write one
07:43.10durcynKurax: Shadowed's DamnCombatLog is a start, though
07:43.18ShadowedI DIDNT DO ANYTHINg
07:43.21ShadowedITS ALL MIKMAS FAULT
07:43.29Kuraxlol?
07:43.39Shadowedthe damn combat log thing is basically done
07:43.45Shadowedit was just to clean up some of the annoyances
07:43.47durcynShadowed: hey, the snowball's rolling
07:43.47ApocoThe problem was, I am populating a table of spells that have cooldowns.  I have a static table that defines what spells share cooldowns.  I am currently using Spell Names, but I wanted to switch to true spellid's so I didn't have to use Babble-Spell to localize, and there was not an easy way to get spellid's.
07:43.56ApocoArrowmaster thought of parsing it out of GetSpellLink
07:44.01Apocoso I ~think~ problem solved.
07:44.03durcynApoco: which is what i've been telling you
07:44.11Xinhuani might consider writing a full combat log addon replacement
07:44.15durcynApoco: use GetSpellInfo(id) to populate and localize your list
07:44.16Xinhuanthe problem with writing such an addon
07:44.17KuraxCant wait it, I miss SCL things so much
07:44.19Xinhuanis that
07:44.34Xinhuanits EASY to write, but the options to config such an addon is a BITCH to write
07:44.47Apocodurcyn: That requires I make a table of id's for every spell for every class of every rank in the game.
07:44.50durcynApoco: stuff the first return in there, and you've got <poof> localized spell names without BS
07:44.54durcynno
07:44.56[SW]DodgeApoco: look at this :)
07:44.56[SW]Dodgehttp://rafb.net/p/Gln5LT24.html
07:44.57KuraxThe default combat log is just like....
07:44.58durcynonly rank 1, and only the spells you care about
07:45.00mitch0apoco: no
07:45.23durcynyou just replace BabbleSpell["foo"] with GetSpellInfo(one_particular_rank_of_foo)
07:45.30mitch0but anyway, the run time efficiency of the getspellink using verson is better, so go with that
07:45.38[SW]DodgeApoco: you will need that too, http://rafb.net/p/ZjlcLa88.html
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07:46.19durcynthe return is automatically localized and does not include rank unless you grab that return with it.
07:48.29mitch0dodge: what is LPT:ItemInSet?
07:48.39durcynperiodic table
07:48.49[SW]Dodgei dont suggest GetSpellLink or GetSpellInfo with spell names, its bugged -> GetSpellLink("Faerie Fire (Feral)") and GetSpellInfo("Faerie Fire (Feral)") will both return nill
07:49.24CIA-1003antiarc * r67825 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Paladin.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
07:49.24CIA-10Threat-2.0:
07:49.24CIA-10- Fix paladin taunt
07:49.24CIA-10- Fix sunder threat component of Devastate
07:49.24Elkanowhat about GetSpellLink("Faerie Fire (Feral)()") ?
07:49.56[SW]DodgeElkano: that works O.o
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07:50.13Zeksietake the time to get the idea.. then you don't need to localise..
07:50.17quiescensFaerie Fire (Feral) by itself is considered wrong
07:50.19Zeksieerm.. the ID*
07:50.20Elkanosame problem as with macros. it treis to interpret the last bracket as rank
07:50.48Arrowmasterwhat about GetSpellLink("Faerie Fire (Feral)", nil)
07:50.58KuraxIf GetItemIcon() always working if the item is not appeared yet?
07:51.01Tekkublawl, a lock named Soulrepair
07:51.03Tekkubhow sad
07:51.09[SW]Dodgebut if you want to fill a table with all your spells then run through your spellbook and use GetSpellInfo/Link(spellbookindex, booktype)
07:51.28EllipsisKurax: yeah they added that
07:51.38Arrowmaster[SW]Dodge: how many ways did you try Faerie Fire (Feral)?
07:51.56[SW]DodgeArrowmaster: hm?
07:52.00KuraxCool, seems I can trim AtlasLoot database with this function
07:52.22Arrowmasterwait GetSpellInfo/Link(spellbookindex, booktype) works?
07:52.24TekkubI'm the grim repair!
07:52.27[SW]Dodgeyea
07:52.27Tekkub*snicker*
07:52.28Zeksierofl
07:52.39Ellipsiso.O;
07:52.40[SW]DodgeArrowmaster: i'm using it now and its used by blizzard in this way :)
07:52.52Ellipsisthat'd be a fun halloween costume
07:52.56CIA-1003scorpion * r67826 10Cryolysis2/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
07:52.56CIA-10Cryolysis2:
07:52.56CIA-10- Updated toc for 2.4
07:52.56CIA-10- Updated zhTW localization
07:53.11TekkubXinhuan, fix'd
07:53.18CIA-1003hshh * r67827 10PlayerMenu/ (PlayerMenu.lua PlayerMenu.toc libs/): PlayerMenu: using LibBabble-Spell-3.0 now
07:53.23[SW]DodgeArrowmaster: well if getspellinfo works i dont know, but i think since getspelllink works with booktype
07:53.23[SW]Dodge^^
07:53.40durcynspeaking of pointless
07:53.49Arrowmasteryeah it works
07:53.51Zeksiethey all do
07:54.08KuraxWhy translators love to bump TOC that not belong to thiers lol
07:54.19CIA-1003hshh * r67828 10CooldownCount/ (CooldownCount.lua CooldownCount.toc libs/): CooldownCount: using LibSharedMedia-3.0 now
07:54.21Ellipsisbecause they can
07:54.40Kurax=/
07:54.49Arrowmasterwho wants to make a bet taht hshh fucked up the LSM-3.0 convert
07:54.54Arrowmasterand didnt use callbacks
07:55.02durcynfucking hell, i'm going to choke him
07:55.26Kurax"using LibBabble-Spell-3.0 now"
07:55.28Kuraxrofl
07:55.29durcynalso, who added bloody spell casting to PlayerMenu, ffs
07:55.48CIA-1003antiarc * r67829 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: Add a toggle to enable/disable warnings while tanking.
07:56.08Arrowmasterwhy does PlayerMenu even need spell names?
07:56.09durcynoh, of course, hshh did.
07:56.27durcynhe's cobbled on a bloody menu to cast a spell by rightclicking on chatlog name
07:56.35Arrowmasterahaha
07:56.38Arrowmasterthat wont even work
07:56.43Mytoswait, who did what
07:56.47durcynit does, out of combat.
07:56.59Arrowmasterlol
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07:57.18Arrowmasteris he actually using secureframes?
07:57.18VonhintenHOME`Antiarc, might want to still allow tank warning on other tanks, for when you want to stay #2 on the list
07:57.26mitch0arrow: why should one use callbacs (wrt LSM3)?
07:57.28AntiarcVonhintenHOME`: ^-- see last commit
07:57.35Mytoscan i call shenanigans on him so we can beat him to death with brooms?
07:57.43AntiarcOh, I see what you mean.
07:57.43mitch0arrow: I don't use callbacks either, yet it seems to work
07:57.44AntiarcHm.
07:57.51Arrowmastermitch0: fucking use callbacks
07:57.57durcynit's not a unitframe, it hooks into the existing rightclick menu
07:58.00Arrowmastermitch0: if you dont then its broken
07:58.01VonhintenHOME`I know, I'm on your ass tonight... =P
07:58.13mitch0arrow: need more input :)
07:58.20Arrowmastermitch0: if media gets added your mod wont know about it
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07:58.25AntiarcHey, that's how features happen! :P
07:58.30thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrRV_7R9ZA <- ho ho
07:58.34mitch0arrow: why is it broken? and if so, why does it seem to work fine w/o callbacks?
07:58.47mitch0arrow: but it kinda does
07:58.48Arrowmastermitch0: are you optdeping SharedMedia?
07:58.55Arrowmasterif so dont
07:59.09durcynmitch0: if the addon providing the texture hasn't yet provided the texture to LSM when your addon attempts to fetch it.. well, think about it for a second
07:59.10mitch0don't remember, lemme check
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07:59.35durcynor any media for that matter
07:59.46mitch0durcyn: I won't try to fetch it if I don't know about its existence :P
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07:59.53Elsiamorning
08:00.10durcynmitch0: oh, really, so after you write it to your saved vars, you automatically know it's there next time you load?
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08:00.16mitch0arrow: I only optdep LibSharedMedia
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08:00.35charonmorning
08:00.44mitch0durcyn: I try to fetch it when I need it. if it's not there (for whatever reasone) I can't do much, now can I?
08:00.58durcynyou could register for a callback and apply it when it's available
08:00.59Ellipsismitch0: you can register a callback for when it does get loaded, and set the media properly
08:01.00durcyn;)
08:01.07Ellipsis~lart durcyn
08:01.07purlblasts durcyn to oblivion with a kamehameha wave
08:01.35KuraxWTF is kamehameha wave..
08:01.39durcynEllipsis: you're jealous of my fingers.
08:01.57EllipsisI am
08:02.04Ellipsiscan I borrow them?
08:02.07NeoTronnan brutallus is truly brutal
08:02.14charonpings Antiarc
08:02.16NeoTronburn victims keep dying
08:02.27mitch0well, kinda makes sense. but I think I do the applying kinda late ::)
08:02.30durcynNeoTron: what positioning are you using?
08:02.35durcynmitch0: doesn't matter
08:03.03durcynmitch0: pretend the supplier doesn't register its media until a 5 minute timer expires after its enable.
08:03.43mitch0fsck that provider
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08:03.59durcynyar, no.
08:04.41mitch0durcyn: what sort of font provider would that be that provides only after 5 mins, huh?
08:04.56mitch0by that time the user got angry and changed his font settings anyway ;)
08:05.02Arrowmasterone thats load on demand and something else loaded it
08:05.38mitch0ok. still, if that's the case, a user won't want to use its fonts, I'm sure
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08:05.48Apocokamehameha  wave = DragonBall Z Ability.
08:05.53Arrowmasterand you cant be sure that your loading it late enough
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08:06.05Mushukhello
08:06.06Antiarccharon: pong
08:06.26mitch0(btw, I will do the callback thing, I just nitpick on some of your lame examples :)
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08:06.28charon:)
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08:06.42Ellipsismitch0: remember that LoD addons can register media, too
08:07.12mitch0remembers
08:07.19Mushukcan someone help me with acelocale please:
08:07.20Mushuk?
08:07.33charonAntiarc: sorry that i went to sleep earlier. do you want to look at that test code, or shall i wait for more Free Time(tm)?
08:07.41MushukI don't know if I'm lame or acelocale behaves wrong
08:07.47mitch0ellipsis: but also understand my point: if my GUI would suddenly change fonts in the middle of the game (5 mins playtime as proposed...) I'd be mighty pissed and would change that font asap
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08:08.01Antiarccharon: Shoot it over. I don't guarantee I'll have time to fully grok it though :)
08:08.06AntiarcBut I'm interested in seeing what you might have
08:08.16charonsvn?
08:08.20Ellipsismitch0: what if the user absolutely hates the default font, or it's actually unreadable for them
08:08.26AntiarcSure, toss it in a branch, I guess
08:08.40NeoTrondurcyn: we're trying to do sort of a trangle I guess melee behind and the two tanks the other corners
08:08.45mitch0ellipsis: he'll choose a font that is provided at friggin loadtime
08:08.52NeoTronand run towards his tail area if we get burn
08:08.57mitch0ellipsis: not a font that he'll wait to appear
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08:09.16mitch0s/wait/have to &/
08:09.18durcynNeoTron: ah.  with the 2.4.1 change to meteor slash, we had to overlap the tank slash zones a bit
08:09.29mitch0purl's regex is teh sux
08:09.35KuraxIs purl using regular expression?
08:09.47NeoTronthey increased the size right?
08:09.53mitch0kurax: apparently not
08:09.54mikmaShadowed: nice pings
08:10.01Arrowmastermitch0: the addon with the font just plain loads it 1ms after you fetch it, fix it
08:10.07KuraxHmm..
08:10.12NeoTrondo you use 2 or 3 tanks?
08:10.16durcynNeoTron: no, it's still a frontal aoe starting at the edge of his hitbox, it just has infinite (or rather, unknown long) range now
08:10.20mitch0arrow: I already said I will :P
08:10.23NeoTronwe were ike 7k behind on dps with 2+8
08:10.23Arrowmasterk
08:10.28durcyntwo is sufficient, provided they have decent avoidance
08:10.29NeoTronbut we didn't use food, drums etc
08:10.31durcyn7 healers
08:10.32mitch0I just hate the lame excuses :)
08:10.35Kuraxs/[m]{2}/mmmm/
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08:10.44KuraxOk..
08:10.50durcynKurax: it's plain sed syntax iirc
08:10.59mitch0durcyn: no
08:11.01durcyns/iirc/if i recall correctly/g
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08:11.07MushukI have this code: http://ace.pastey.net/85002
08:11.13ncd|Aileenhow can you have decent avoidance in SWP?
08:11.14ncd|Aileen:P
08:11.18Mushukand when I load this addon, it says the translation MSG_ICONS doesn't exist
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08:11.23mitch0durcyn: sed speaks regex. purl doesn't
08:12.00CIA-1003rabbit * r67830 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/Localization/enUS.lua: Omen: Add 2 missing translations.
08:12.10ArrowmasterMushuk: do you have L= in both files?
08:12.22Gngskvhaarr, ping
08:12.31vhaarrGngsk: pong
08:12.43Gngskany way to center the new violation ttip?
08:12.49CIA-1003charon 07charon * r67831 10Threat-2.0/: Threat-2.0: make branch directory
08:12.59mitch0arrow: onw more question regarding LSM3: If I have fonts = LSM:List("fonts") (without syntax errors, w/e), will that fonts table be usable later on? I mean, will the new stuff be inserted in that same list?
08:13.00Mushukyes, I just forgot to paste it :)
08:13.04Mushuklocal L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("ChatIconsFu")
08:13.05CIA-1003charon 07charon * r67832 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/: Threat-2.0: set up branch
08:13.12Mushukthis exists in the locale file
08:13.24Kuraxno
08:13.27mitch0arrow: (I know it usually works like that, I just don't know if it's guaranteed to work like that)
08:13.29Arrowmasteryou need to use the same name in both
08:13.35KuraxChatIconsFu ~= ChatRTIcons
08:13.43KuraxThey are different namespaces
08:13.57Arrowmastermitch0: im not sure let me check the code
08:14.02Mushukoh
08:14.03Mushukthanks
08:14.12MushukI forgot to rewrite the locale file then
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08:14.36mitch0arrow: anyway, I just realized I have to refetch that table just in case it was absolutely nil the first time (nobody registered a "font" type thing)
08:14.56Arrowmasterdefault fonts are included by default
08:15.01mitch0ah
08:15.09mitch0then continue with the checking please :)
08:15.20Arrowmasterand its a table so it shouldnt need refreshing
08:15.24mitch0(although empirical evidence suggest that the table is not replaced)
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08:15.45mitch0arrow: LSM _might_ change the table if it wished...
08:15.57Arrowmasterand it should update your table
08:16.24Arrowmaster:List(mediaType) does return mediaList[mediatype]
08:16.54mitch0arrow: but if it later did a mediaList[mediatype] = {}, then my table won't be updated any more..
08:17.07mitch0arrow: but if you say it won't do that, I'm fine with it ;)
08:17.24CIA-1003charon 07charon * r67833 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (test.lua test_stubs.lua): Threat-2.0: proof of concept for a unit test module
08:17.27charonAntiarc: ^
08:17.31AntiarcThanks
08:17.39charonwonders if he could have done that directly from git-svn's copy of trunk/Threat-2.0
08:18.33mitch0wonders off to grab some coffee
08:18.53mitch0(and that's wanders, of course, it was THE CAT!)
08:19.36charonAntiarc: also, if you run those files in r67174, it should assert() on the threat table serializer bug
08:21.01VonhintenHOME`Does DogTags support TargettedBy ?
08:21.02charonbtw, i installed wowlua511 to run that stuff, didn't see any obvious way to fix the problems standard lua had, most importantly the BOM
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08:22.01charon*lua511wow
08:22.03Antiarccharon: Sexy, thanks!
08:22.13AntiarcI use lua511wow too :)
08:22.23charonok
08:22.23NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/uu6rf6p5tlzic?m&s=14843-15044 best attempt
08:22.30NeoTron60% at the mid-point
08:22.55NeoTronwe did use heroism that time but nothing but flask/wpn oil for consumables
08:23.52durcynffs, give 2.4.2 UNIT_DIED fixes
08:23.57Elkanomitch0, yes, the tables returned from LSM3 will stay the same
08:24.08durcynNeoTron: what problems are you having other than slow dps?
08:24.50NeoTronppl dying
08:24.52Antiarccharon: Awesome. I love it.
08:24.56AntiarcThanks a ton :)
08:25.03NeoTronthat's why we haven't done consumables
08:25.09NeoTron3m20s is the longest we've lived. tanks die
08:25.14NeoTronand burns die almost always
08:25.20durcynNeoTron: how many burn healers?
08:25.29NeoTronin theory 2
08:25.37NeoTronalthough healing overall is having some issues
08:25.51ncd|Aileenmh
08:25.55durcynhm, i hope the rogue and mage died early on that attempt, because their dps suxbad
08:26.02ncd|Aileenyour paladin are doing quite low HPS :(
08:26.13NeoTronI was pretty much dying when it ticked for 800, hand by a thread at 1600 and died on the first 3200 tick
08:26.26NeoTronwell the mage had zero buffs
08:26.33ncd|Aileenor did they both heal the Burn Target?
08:26.34NeoTronthe rogue had no melee support at al
08:26.52durcynyou need two burn healers, preferably one of which would be a druid
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08:27.13ncd|Aileenmh, we have druid + paladin
08:27.15NeoTronoh wait I am not sure what buffs cleancut might or might not have had
08:27.23NeoTronbut he also lacks 4xt6 as myself
08:27.36durcynyeah, well, still garbage dps from them, and you can tell them i said so
08:28.05durcynanyway, tanks dying to stomp and damage after it, yeah?
08:28.10NeoTronlikely
08:28.36durcyntell them to put some avoidance back on
08:28.47CIA-1003antiarc * r67834 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Tests/ (. test.lua test_stubs.lua): Threat-2.0: Add unit tests courtesy of charon. Thanks!
08:28.49durcyneven 3-4% extra can make the difference for stomp
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08:29.07charonblushes
08:29.08NeoTronnod
08:29.23AntiarcThat's a really nice suite :)
08:29.29AntiarcDefinitely going to abuse that :)
08:29.33durcynor maybe healers just need to switch faster, i can't really see that from the logs
08:29.43NeoTronwe're replacing the third hunter too
08:29.44charonAntiarc: the one obvious issue i found with writing tests, is that i needed to be extra careful to send an event that forces a sync before comparing between the instances
08:29.49NeoTronfor obvious reasons
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08:29.59Antiarc*nod*
08:30.13durcynyeah, he looks a bit crap.  i really can't stress group synergy enough for that fight.. enh with ms warrior and some rogues is huge
08:30.25durcynoh, and good old level 40 elixirs of demonslaying
08:30.38charonbut in any case, it can spawn multiple instances and fake an acecomm. perhaps the latter could even be useful for other mods that sync (though i guess there are fewer that need to with 2.4)
08:30.44NeoTronour shammy is in AU and double DST change (i.e 2 hr difference from normal )makes it so he can't raid :-/
08:30.47durcyni'd drop the second shadow priest too
08:31.03XinhuanAntiarc, i can try to take a stab at threat-2.0 code
08:31.05Xinhuando you have any
08:31.13NeoTrona shadow priest increase the dps of a warlock by about 250 dps
08:31.13durcyngive the first one to the healers and drop another heroism on your casters
08:31.20Xinhuanclue when/where a lockup is likely to occur
08:31.24Xinhuanfrom all the reports?
08:31.27ncd|Aileenas a Paladin you should get a SP during the Brut tries.
08:31.30Xinhuanor does it seem totally random
08:31.47NeoTronI haven't heard any healer complaining about OOM but warlocks most definitely need a SP in that fight
08:31.53durcynoh really
08:31.57NeoTronwe're the ones carrying the rest, we can't afford not getting it
08:32.06ncd|Aileenmh, without SP I go oom at ~80%.
08:32.17ncd|Aileen(with flask, chainpotting, manaoil, bufffood etc.)
08:32.20Silviu-cause u suck ncd|Aileen :D
08:32.25ncd|Aileenstfu. :(
08:32.28NeoTronncd|Aileen: that sounds like your problem then ;-)
08:32.47Silviu-As i said ^^
08:32.47ncd|Aileenmh, if the tanks die, it's the problem of the whole raid. :)
08:32.56Silviu-No, just healers
08:32.56Silviu-:D
08:33.10VonhintenHOME`how much armor does Brutalus have?
08:33.20NeoTronseriously though, a shadow priest doing 1300 DPS with 3 warlocks is contributing over 2000 dps to the raid
08:33.20ncd|Aileen7,4k afaik
08:33.21AntiarcXinhuan: It's random, and I only have 1 while loop in the entire codebase, and it has been in since Threat-1.0 :P
08:33.23NeoTronand healing
08:33.33durcynNeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/lsp52psowlxtg?s=6832-7190
08:33.35Xinhuandid you also check for division by 0
08:33.38ncd|Aileenmh, If you wiped, because the tanks died
08:33.44AntiarcThat wouldn't cause a crash :P
08:33.49Xinhuanyeah it wouldn't
08:33.52Xinhuanbut still
08:33.52durcynNeoTron: that's our kill from earlier today, if you want to compare
08:33.56ncd|Aileenyou maybe should support the healers too
08:34.00NeoTronncd|Aileen: all I know is I haven't heard anything about healers going OOM
08:34.00Xinhuandid yu check for division by 0 for aoe spells?
08:34.10ncd|Aileenmh, yes
08:34.12VonhintenHOME`that rogue's damage is pretty bad, average hit is way low
08:34.19ncd|AileenIf you do ~1,5k HPS as a Paladin
08:34.22ncd|Aileenyou wont go oom
08:34.28ncd|Aileenbut 1,5k is kinda low.
08:34.28NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: again, no group synergy at all
08:34.42Orionshockok, anyone know what the deal is with ppls names showing up in Aqua color?
08:34.43AntiarcXinhuan: Not sure what you mean?
08:34.47durcynncd|Aileen: eh, downranking between stomps isn't so bad.
08:34.47NeoTronno CoR, no windfury, no dps warrior, no enhance shaman
08:34.54VonhintenHOME`feral?
08:34.56ncd|Aileenmh, I use downranked spells :D
08:34.59NeoTronand likely low consumables
08:35.05NeoTronyes a feral druid
08:35.09CIA-1003antiarc * r67835 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix a problem with spell cast handlers. Should make boss mods work a lot more nicely!
08:35.14VonhintenHOME`so feral+hunters+rogue
08:35.17VonhintenHOME`well, that's something at least
08:35.18ncd|Aileenbut still have 2,4 - 2,45k hps
08:35.28ncd|Aileenbut well, a SP is needed then.
08:35.45Xinhuannvm
08:35.58Silviu-Give sp to wl`s we do dmg !
08:35.59Silviu-:D
08:35.59NeoTronwtf
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08:36.04NeoTronyou have a firelock?
08:36.19Silviu-Neotron no
08:36.22Silviu-We all are shadow
08:37.03NeoTrondurcyn... http://wowwebstats.com/lsp52psowlxtg?s=6832-7190&a=30#abilities
08:37.21durcynNeoTron: yes, we have one that's trying fire
08:37.26NeoTronand out of all spells. soul fire? :P
08:37.30NeoTronthat spell sucks ass, always. heh
08:38.01durcyni don't know, i was worrying about myself at the time
08:38.05NeoTronso you go with 7 healers, 2 tanks
08:38.26KuraxSleep or not
08:38.29Kurax~roll
08:38.29purlkurax rolls 6
08:38.32NeoTron2400 dps hunter ftw
08:38.33Kuraxnot
08:38.41durcynaye.  paladin/druid on burn, both spot healing tanks.  one shaman on raid healing.
08:38.41NeoTronours have never been close
08:38.51durcynhe had a feral for that attempt, the bastard
08:39.18NeoTronI assume all of the casters have the skull/haste staff from illidan etc?
08:39.25durcynand i probably would've passed him if not for burn
08:39.31Silviu-NeoTron no qq
08:39.33durcynah, just skull atm, the firelock has the staff
08:39.44NeoTronwe have a total of 1 skull, 1 staff
08:39.52durcynwe've been lucky with dps trinkets
08:39.53NeoTronI don't even have 4xt6
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08:40.31AbsoRayneCAUSE HES GOING THE DISTANCE
08:40.33AbsoRayneHES GOING FOR SPEED
08:40.43Temnever gonna give you up
08:40.43NeoTronI've ver seen our rogues sustain over 2000 dps
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08:40.54AntiarcI've sustained 2300 on Teron
08:41.05VonhintenHOME`irc rickroll ftl
08:41.29AbsoRayneIm so downloading Audiosurf tonight
08:41.32AbsoRaynegame looks like stupid fun
08:41.43AntiarcAudiosurf is awesome.
08:41.46KuraxYup
08:41.51AntiarcThere once was a man named Bertold
08:41.52AntiarcWho drank beer when the weather grew cold
08:41.54AntiarcAs he reached for his cup...
08:41.56Antiarc"NEEEEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP!!!"
08:41.58AntiarcOh, snap! You just got limerickrolled!
08:42.17AbsoRayneI need more music on my playlist...
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08:42.30AbsoRayneAt least I have all the Crystal Method Albums...
08:42.47NeoTronIn one attempt I did 2400 dps .. without heroism and stuff
08:42.53CIA-1003elkano * r67836 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
08:42.53CIA-10FuBar_GuildFu
08:42.53CIA-10- added code to fix the new gender based class names on some locals. Someone will have to update the locale files with the data though.
08:42.53CIA-10- removed BabbleClass-2.2
08:42.53CIA-10- some other performance tweaks (upvalues and such)
08:42.57CIA-10- TOC to 20400
08:42.57NeoTronof course I had like 50% crit that attempt, pulled aggro and died
08:43.14durcynNeoTron: yes, just telling you what worked for us.. worry about the other 24 now ;)
08:44.05AntiarcSurprisingly, movie soundtracks are some of the best Audiosurf tracks
08:44.14NeoTronyou've likely farmed t6 at least 2-3 months more than we have :P
08:44.19AntiarcThe variation in instruments and the rise and swells produce some AWESOME tracks.
08:44.49NeoTrondurcyn: damn you have 3 OH glaives and no MH? :P
08:44.58KalrothAntiarc: You mean like the Top Gun soundtrack?
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08:45.47AntiarcI used the Pirates of the Carribean soundtrack, but Top Gun is probably awesome in it
08:45.59NeoTronhow about boomkin + SP + pally healers + token crit priest/shaman for a group?
08:46.28AbsoRayneAs much as I dont care about rap anymore
08:46.37AbsoRayneTwista would make an awesome song for Audiosurf
08:46.44durcynNeoTron: yeah, mainhands hate us.  uh, kick the moonkin out, this is a serious fight.
08:46.59durcynsorry, i like crit as much as the next guy, but even with imp FF, moobkins are a net loss
08:47.31AbsoRayne<3 Stonesour
08:47.40AbsoRayneStone Sour**
08:47.54AbsoRaynegd I need to stop staring at my Ui its making me too much of a zombie atm...
08:48.01Lukianhaha
08:48.05pb_ee1ckknight, any ETA for the bug which makes Parrot not display heals/damage/... ?
08:48.12Kuraxnope
08:48.14quiescensnevar
08:48.16Stanzillathe bug is called 2.4, pb_ee1
08:48.18Lukiangood job ckknight, you broke icehud (and probably fixed my cpu issues? :D)
08:48.18CIA-1003apoco * r67837 10RBM/ (7 files in 6 dirs):
08:48.18CIA-10RBM:
08:48.18CIA-10- Several Bug Fixes
08:48.18CIA-10- New Feature: Skull Warnings (See General Options)
08:48.18CIA-10- Fix: Pet Buff/Debuff Tracking
08:48.25LukianParnic, fix it! ;D
08:48.26pb_ee1i know Stanzilla
08:48.37EllipsisLukian: ck didn't touch icehud, blame the icehud author :P
08:48.37NeoTronshe's a leatherworker :P
08:48.46AbsoRayneIm switching to Parrot once that bug is fixed...
08:48.47NeoTrondunno how much 1x drums add though
08:48.55durcynNeoTron: moar leatherworkers.
08:48.56VonhintenHOME`How can a moonkin be a net loss?
08:49.06AbsoRayneMSBT has treated me well, but Parrot is soooooo much smoother
08:49.27durcynVonhintenHOME`: because its terribad damage isn't mitigated by its party/raid buffs.  a pure dps class contributes more overall
08:49.30Ellipsispb_ee1: there is no ETA for parrot, but he'll get to it
08:49.39Silviu-durcyn at u who get`s heros ? warlocks or noob melees ?
08:49.48AbsoRayneOk guys, question for yall
08:49.49durcynSilviu-: 2 melee, 2 caster, 1 tank
08:49.56AbsoRayneWere venturing into Hyjal tomorrow for the first time
08:49.56LukianEllipsis, icehud uses dogtag, ckk fixed dogtag :D
08:49.59AntiarcHero on melee!
08:50.02Silviu-5 shamans ? lol :)
08:50.06EllipsisLukian: dogtag was broken?
08:50.08Lukianthus he indirectly broke icehud :D
08:50.09AbsoRayneAny tips that arent mentioned anywhere I should be aware of? Im leading the raid.
08:50.17AntiarcRogues get 35%+ more out of hero than anyone else!
08:50.26durcynAbsoRayne: you could afk and collect loot up until azgalor.  have fun.
08:50.28StanzillaLukian: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/?cs=67817
08:50.31Silviu-Antiarc not true, casters get more
08:50.38EllipsisLukian: do you mean that it upgraded to 3.0? 'cause that's still not ck's fault :P
08:50.42pb_ee1thanks Ellipsis
08:50.45AntiarcCasters have passive 35% haste? :P
08:51.08AbsoRayneIm MT, cant AFK
08:51.09AbsoRayne:P
08:51.19quiescensyou could if you're really discrete
08:51.23Lukianoh I see, sec
08:51.23AbsoRaynelol
08:51.24AntiarcHaste is multiplicitave, and rogues with the 2pc T6 have a 35% base haste increase with SnD, 62% base haste with BF up
08:51.27durcyneh, the -raid- benefits from heroism.  there's no ego to it.
08:51.33durcynyou put it where it's most useful.
08:51.44NeoTronAntiarc: but rogues don't get more energy back from heroism
08:51.53VonhintenHOME`+ blade flurry + haste pot + mongoose + glaives + drums
08:51.55NeoTronwhile a caster gets 100% benefit you only gain it on white damage
08:51.55Antiarcneotron: combat potency :)
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08:52.22AiianeNeoTron: technically, casters don't get any mana, either ;)
08:52.24durcynhuh, heroism + wf + sword spec is huge, neo.
08:52.26Antiarc~68% of my damage is white damage, and autoattack speed boosts mean more CP procs mean more yellow damage.
08:52.27purlokay, Antiarc
08:52.28AbsoRayneOh shit...one of my main healers is deploying tomorrow. :/\
08:52.31AntiarcAnd Sword spec is insane.
08:52.34AntiarcHahahaha, purl.
08:52.44Antiarc~68% of my damage
08:52.44purl68% of my damage is probably white damage, and autoattack speed boosts mean more CP procs mean more yellow damage.
08:52.47Antiarcrofl
08:53.14AbsoRayneHe never said where though..
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08:53.52AbsoRayneEllipsis: Thanks again earlier for the dogtag help
08:53.54NeoTronI don't expect to get might-level numbers and until we can get ppl living for 6 minutes it doesn't matter anyway
08:54.02EllipsisAbsoRayne: always happy to help
08:54.44CIA-1003elsia * r67838 10Recount/ (17 files in 2 dirs):
08:54.44CIA-10Recount:
08:54.44CIA-10- Profile changes will now have visible impact by adjusting the main window, real-time and config windows per the profile change.
08:54.45CIA-10- Fixed bug caused when hiding and showing the UI with ctrl-z
08:54.45CIA-10- Added revision string handling to all lua files.
08:55.46LukianEllipsis, haha he failed the upgrade
08:55.58AbsoRaynehttp://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F234828.png Theres the 90% finished Product. I used the same tags for the Power Bars, and its basicly giving me the cleanest UF ive ever used. O_o
08:55.58Lukianall I have on my screen is "unknown tag PercentMP" etc
08:56.09VonhintenHOME`Anyway, about the moonkin... I haven't done any data analysis on it, but it seems like 3% hit for melee+ranged + spell crit would be worth at least as much as the loss in DPS... unless your people are already hit capped
08:56.23VonhintenHOME`But you can regem or swap out to lower your hit on gear
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08:56.40durcynVonhintenHOME`: we tested one.  it was a net raid dps loss.
08:56.54VonhintenHOME`but is that because your gear wasn't compensated?
08:57.06durcynit had 4pc t5, iirc.
08:57.07EllipsisLukian: odd, code looks fine to me
08:57.15Ellipsissure you aren't getting any dogtag errors?
08:57.21durcynwhich i'm told is superior for balance damage output
08:58.12NeoTronnot sure I'd be convinced of that
08:58.14LukianIceUnitBar.lua: 207: Usage: UnitIsDeadOrGhost("unit");
08:58.36Lukian(when zoning into an instance, unsure about login messages, I really should get an error collecting addon, suggestions?)
08:58.41NeoTron10% more dmg to starfire is nice but better than the overall t6 improvement + 5% crit?
08:58.47Antiarc!Swatter of !BugGrabber/BugSack
08:58.49ArrowmasterLukian: BugSack
08:58.52Antiarcs/of/or/
08:58.54NeoTronI have however not theory crafted it
08:59.01durcynsee also tekErr
08:59.03AbsoRaynegd it. I really need more music...
08:59.15ArrowmastertekErr?
08:59.16AbsoRaynegoes a lookin
08:59.17durcynAbsoRayne: what the devil are we supposed to do about that?
08:59.24durcynArrowmaster: dumps it into OptionHouse iirc
08:59.29AbsoRaynedurcyn: Got anything to suggest? O_o
08:59.42durcynAbsoRayne: yeah, last.fm
08:59.48AbsoRayneNot what I meant.
09:00.17durcynno, really, put in an artist you like, and it'll give you similar things.  do what thou wilt with that information.
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09:00.45CIA-1003elsia * r67839 10Recount/ (Recount.lua locales/Recount-enUS.lua):
09:00.45CIA-10Recount:
09:00.45CIA-10- Prepared localization of ace3config description strings.
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09:03.02CIA-1003nemes * r67840 10CooldownCount/CooldownCount.toc:
09:03.02CIA-10CooldownCount:
09:03.02CIA-10- no need for LibStub in embeds
09:03.23NeoTrondurcyn: you might know
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09:03.31CIA-10LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
09:03.31CIA-10- added Naaru Rations (Shattered Sun reputation food) to "Consumable.Food.Combo Health" and "Consumable.Food.Combo Mana"
09:03.42NeoTrondurcyn: with heroism is it still better to use mana pots over destruction pots for dps?
09:03.48NeoTronI know they win out w/o heroism
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09:04.31CIA-1003sayclub * r67842 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/Localization/koKR.lua:
09:04.32CIA-10Omen:
09:04.32CIA-10- Update koKR local
09:04.40durcynwithout a shadow priest, i'd say yes
09:04.49durcynhaven't done the math with that much haste
09:05.07durcynoh, and if you have a ret paladin, JOW is substantial on brut
09:05.12NeoTronI am pretty sure it still is but haven't done the meth
09:05.13NeoTronyes
09:05.15NeoTronwe will bring him
09:05.23NeoTronbut right now our main pally healer is out so he's filling in
09:05.25NeoTronhealing
09:05.57AbsoRayneROFL
09:06.09AbsoRayneA torrent for Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure
09:06.15AbsoRaynemy god I havent seen that in a long time
09:06.37NeoTronalso our second resto druid is green, has like t4 level gear
09:06.44mitch0btw, would anyone like to port Rock's font selector to AceConfigDialog-3.0? I kinda like how you can preview the font right in the selector
09:06.53NeoTronour 2nd geared resto druid quit, as did a resto shaman
09:07.01NeoTronso we're really down 3 main healers atm
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09:11.37digmousecrazy day
09:12.05Funkeh`does player entering combat fire if you log in in combat
09:12.06Groktarhttp://wowwebstats.com/plccvvlfevtx3
09:12.11Groktardeadlious is a bad
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09:12.21Groktarhe's got everything except for skull of guldan
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09:13.44CIA-10Recount:
09:13.44CIA-10- Fixed syncing of version strings for new version format.
09:13.55Lukianrofl, half way through the loading screen I hear "Fatality" with Bugsack :D
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09:15.06KuraxCIA-10 is sorta torporific atm
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09:15.30Ellipsislol
09:15.34Ellipsispets Kurax
09:16.33KuraxNo? Or it's my network lags?
09:17.10Ellipsisit's your dictionary :P
09:17.30KuraxAh
09:18.06KuraxWell, I didn't use dic, I just pick one from brain randomly, don't laugh
09:18.10NeoTronGroktar: not amazingly impressive
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09:18.42NeoTronman I need a 4th piece of t6 so bad
09:18.52NeoTronand I can win any piece I want.. but I want the damn skull
09:18.53Groktarya, our dps is bad
09:18.54Groktar:(
09:18.56NeoTronjust refuses to drop
09:19.14NeoTronour first attempts were like 16000 raid dps
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09:19.25NeoTronlast one was 21000
09:19.45NeoTronwe need different group for a kill (ppl were absent today) and use of all consumables of course
09:20.37durcynseriously, elixirs of demonslaying.
09:20.53quiescensold school
09:21.21NeoTrondurcyn: yeah we have them stocked up
09:21.25NeoTronbut alas didn't use them
09:21.36NeoTronplus for loltastic reasons.. just one melee in the raid
09:21.50NeoTronwell 3 melee but 2 were tanks :P
09:22.34NeoTronanyhow time to sleep
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09:28.44NeoTron:se noai
09:28.44NeoTrona:se ai
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09:29.21Arrowmasterafter 2 days of work i think i've finally got this finished, although i still wish i could come up with a bet way of loading it
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09:33.52CIA-1003antiarc * r67847 10Omen/ (Bar.lua Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua): Omen: Minor performance optimizations
09:33.56GroktarNeoTron: we did manage to get him to 11% on monday
09:34.10Groktarfew people picking up leatherworking
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09:37.54Lukianahah!
09:38.01LukianDr Damage is a/the culprit
09:38.12Lukianwhen AoE'ing it's using insane amounts of cpu
09:39.44[SW]DodgeAntiarc: is it possible to only show tanks + myself in omen?
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09:39.58Antiarc[SW]Dodge: Sorta, you can uncheck the classes you don't want to show
09:40.28quiescensdo you show up even if you uncheck your own class
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09:40.35Antiarcyes
09:40.42quiescensfancy
09:40.45sicaAntiarc: did you manage to fix the Bloodboil-Problems?
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09:40.55Fisker-ok just confirm to me that i'm not going crazy
09:41.02[SW]Dodgewell but we dont just have tank warrior and i'm not the only druid, and sometimes warlocks are "tanks"
09:41.18Antiarcsica: I'm still working on them. Someone reports that it's a problem with the threat multipliers not properly being deducted, which sounds plausable, but I haven't been able to track down why that happens
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09:41.25Fisker-wouldn't you say it's stupid to start handing out hearts of darkness for shadow res gear when we've just killed teron gorefiend(for the first time)?
09:41.29JaxonIt'd probably be a pain in the ass to grab the MT list from oRA or from the Blizzard list.
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09:41.50JaxonFisker-: yes, that is retarded.  What we did is gather Hearts until our first Shahraz attempt and then craft the stuff that night
09:41.50AntiarcHeh, I actually already do that for the Healer/Tank mode, Jaxon
09:42.05Fisker-yeah that's what i said
09:42.09JaxonAntiarc: I don't think I've ever used anything other than Single Target.
09:42.16sicaAntiarc: can I help you in any way? We are doing BB today, would it help to run it in Debug-Mode? Maybe you need a combatlog recording of it?
09:42.18JaxonFisker-: reduces the chance that someone is going to shady off with them
09:42.22AntiarcJaxon: Good, the others are wonky :P
09:42.35Antiarcsica: No, I have logs, and I don't know that the debug logs would help either.
09:42.40Fisker-But everytime i say something that goes against what someone else planned i'm apparently "hostile" and i have a "secret agenda to ruin the guild"
09:42.44AntiarcHonestly, it sounds like this guy has the right idea, but I have no idea how it's happening
09:42.54JaxonFisker-: sounds like too much drama, find another guild.
09:43.13Fisker-I told them it was a bad idea before they did it because we wouldn't be sure we would have the same 25 man when we got to mother shazrah
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09:43.29Fisker-and then they went ahead and did it anyways and now they're mad when i tell that it was stupid to do :o
09:43.54[SW]DodgeAntiarc: "for the Healer/Tank mode," <- where can i find tank mode?
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09:44.08AntiarcThe shield icon
09:44.12AntiarcIt's one and the same
09:44.19JaxonFisker-: you can be happy that you are right and unhappy that you are right or you can not worry about it and find a new guild.  I'd go with the latter.  I'm not much for drama
09:44.51[SW]Dodgeah ok ^^
09:45.00Fisker-it's a good guild
09:45.05Fisker-but it's a bit unstable
09:45.12Fisker-which is why i said it was a bad idea to begin with
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09:55.53mitch0is it possible for two addons to use the same savedvariables?
09:55.59Arrowmasteryes
09:56.16mitch0will they get a ref to the same table in that case?
09:56.19VonhintenHOME`Why does SmartClass return Paladin for a mob
09:56.31mitch0von: 'cos it's not smart enough
09:56.35VonhintenHOME`clearly
09:57.10VonhintenHOME`I wish I could figure out how to stop that.. seems like a bug in DogTags
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09:58.27mitch0arrow: so would it be possible to have Addon and AddonConfig to use the same savedvars, and from Addon register a /addon command that would just LoadAddon("AddonConfig") which would replace the slash commands with a new one with all the config magic in it (and also load the gui config thing)?
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09:59.21mitch0that way after initial confing AddonConfig could be disabled from, so the config stuff wouldn't eat up any memory
09:59.21Arrowmastermitch0: for that you dont even need to set the saved var in AddonConfig's toc, just use it
09:59.29[eu]gunderVonhintenHOME`: you have 3 types of mobs: warriors use only physical attacks, paladin use physical attacks and some spells (usually healing) and mage uses spell for damage
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09:59.50mitch0arrow: can I tell AceDB to use it?
10:00.06Arrowmastermitch0: i doubt it
10:00.28[eu]gunderIts not a bug in dogtag, it's an information from wow
10:00.28VonhintenHOME`gunder, That's a built-in classification in WoW for the mobs?  or just DogTags trying to be clever?
10:00.34[eu]gunderbuilt-in
10:00.43Arrowmasteryou would be better off just doing function AddonConfig:OnInitalize() self.db = Addon.db end
10:00.44VonhintenHOME`hmm
10:00.47mitch0arrow: ah, I guess I wasn't clear enough
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10:00.55mitch0ah
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10:01.08mitch0sounds reasonable
10:01.28mitch0ok, then I can make some of my users happy
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10:01.53Arrowmasterwhy by making an ace3 config table a seperate addon?
10:01.56Groktarmages will run away from you if you get rooted, paladins will always stay in melee range
10:02.05mitch0arrow: basically, yes
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10:02.26Arrowmasterand warriors dont have a mana bar
10:02.32mitch0the main addon's slashcmd would be registered directly via the blizz api, and only the config part would pull in AceConfig and friends
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10:03.02Arrowmastermitch0: sounds silly to be honest
10:03.12mitch0well, it does save memory
10:03.17mitch0not much, I know, but still
10:03.30mitch0I might be a victim of an april's fool request though
10:03.32Arrowmasteryeah less than 10kb
10:03.58mitch0still, the idea is kinda neat
10:04.18Arrowmasterjust try to make the addon as clean as possible imho instead of spliting it
10:04.27mitch0it's clean enough
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10:04.37mitch0(apart from the "unecessary" config stuff)
10:05.06mitch0usually once the user configures the thing, those config and slashcmd handlers are wasted memory
10:05.45Arrowmasterlike i said less than 10kb probably
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10:05.55mitch0besides, for a beast like pitbull, it'd probably be actually worthwhile
10:06.16Arrowmasterdoubt it
10:06.16VonhintenHOME`It better be worth a lot to convolute the code
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10:06.37mitch0von: the main addon's code will be actually simpler
10:06.38Arrowmasterand actually for pitbull it would probably be much much worse
10:06.49mitch0arrow: how so?
10:07.02Groktarimpulse dkp system ftw
10:07.04Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/webdkp.php?view_webdkp=lootHistory&id=13604&tableid=2
10:07.19Arrowmasterdoesnt pitbull open configs from where you click at and not a main config?
10:07.25mitch0groktar: been playing without any dkp for 2 years now, and I don't miss it a bit...
10:07.33Arrowmastertrying to do that in a seperate addon would be a lot
10:07.35Ellipsisit can open a main config if you type /pitbull or whatever
10:07.45Groktarsunwell loots for 1dkp!
10:08.04mitch0arrow: on first click it could load the config part, then proceed
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10:09.07durcyneh, afaik pitbull basically already does that, at least if librockconfig is unembedded
10:09.34mitch0that's good then ;)
10:09.42Arrowmasterand not loaded?
10:09.46CIA-1003funkydude * r67852 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua: StatBlocks_DPS: partial optimizations
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10:10.14Elkanoomg... I <3 CollegeHumor videos ^^ http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774718
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10:13.32mitch0durcyn: as far as I can understand, pitbull builds the whole optiontable in OnEnable()
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10:16.08durcyni'm not talking about the options table, i'm talking about the config gui code itself loading into memory
10:16.16durcynwhat the hell are you going to do without an options table
10:16.40XinhuanBlackrock down!!!
10:16.42Xinhuanzzz
10:16.49Xinhuanshahraz corpse is rotting
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10:17.14mitch0durcyn: nothing, of course.
10:17.21CIA-1003whyv * r67853 10Omen/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Omen : update zhTW
10:17.35digmouseem I have a question
10:17.41mitch0durcyn: that's the point. don't build a bigass options table untili the user actually wants to do something with it
10:18.14durcynyou still need defaults
10:18.16digmousewhere can I get the API or function of customizing my combat log like "TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_RESULT_RESISTED ="R";"
10:18.18durcynhow much exactly do you want to hardcode?
10:18.20mitch0will blizz load an addon that is enabled but is LoadOnDemand?
10:18.33mitch0durcyn: that's in the db
10:18.33CIA-1003whyv * r67854 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua:
10:18.34CIA-10Recount:
10:18.34CIA-10- update zhTW
10:18.56durcynthere's just as much overhead in reading a full options table as there is in ifchecking every single field
10:19.14durcynperhaps more, i'd have to profile it
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10:19.50mitch0durcyn: no, you misunderstand me
10:20.08mitch0durcyn: don't build the options table until it's needed, but when it's needed, build the whole thing at once
10:20.22durcynit's needed OnEnable, though
10:20.46mitch0durcyn: why?
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10:22.26durcyner, nevermind, i'm thinking about the profile namespace.  yeah, you could theoretically split options stuff off.
10:22.43durcyni'm not sure the gain would be worth a wet slap, but it's academically conceivable
10:23.01mitch0so, would this setup work: AddonConfig: LoadOnDemand=1,DefaultState=disabled,Deps:Addon, and Addon call LoadAddon(AddonConfig) when the config is actually needed
10:23.32Arrowmasteryou would have to enable it
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10:23.43Arrowmasteryou cant LoadAddon a disabled addon
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10:23.53mitch0ok, then Enable(), LoadAddon(), Disable()
10:24.03mitch0would that work?
10:24.11Arrowmasteror just dont use defaultstate: disabled
10:24.11Xinhuanonly works on LoD: 1 addons
10:24.20mitch0or Enable only works for next reload?
10:24.32Xinhuandepends if its LoD
10:24.40Xinhuanif its LoD, enable works right away
10:24.42mitch0it would be Lod
10:24.47Xinhuanif itsnot LoD, only for next login/reload
10:25.10mitch0the point would be that it should be always disabled (so that it won't load) until requested
10:25.32Xinhuanif the addon is LoD, it will never load until a LoadAddOn makes it load
10:25.45Xinhuanso that is irrelevant
10:26.03mitch0xin: but only if it's defaultstate is disabled, right?
10:26.07Arrowmasterno
10:26.10Xinhuanno
10:26.16Xinhuandefaultstate is irrelevant
10:26.17mitch0damn, I'm getting confused then
10:26.18Xinhuanfor LoD addons
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10:26.37mitch0I dunno how LibRangeCheck gets loaded then
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10:26.49mitch0(since LibStub doesn't do that as far as I understand)
10:27.07Arrowmasteryou optdeped it
10:27.09Arrowmasterprobably
10:27.16mitch0I did.
10:27.34Arrowmasterso if it was defaultstate=disabled it wouldnt load on a new install
10:27.37mitch0the fog starts to clear up :)
10:27.51Xinhuana LoD addon can get loaded at ANY time, as long as the addon is enabled on login screen, and LoadAddon calls it, OR an addon called EnableAddon on it then LoadAddon
10:27.55mitch0it's lod, defaultstat=enabled and optdepped
10:28.10XinhuanOR its enabled, and some addon OptDep it
10:28.18durcyndon't set defaultstate, just set LoadOnDemand
10:28.23Arrowmastertheres no reason to put defaultstate in most addons
10:28.24Xinhuanor its LoD and Enabled and it has a LoadWith clause
10:28.37mitch0what exactly does DefaultState do then?
10:28.48Xinhuanit just sets the default state on the login screen on first install
10:28.51Xinhuanenabled or disabled
10:28.57durcynthe only other thing that's relevant is LoadManagers
10:29.08mitch0ah. well, it shouldn't do much harm then
10:29.10Xinhuanthere is a bug with LoadManagers and LoadWith
10:29.23mitch0LoadManager is not set
10:29.31VonhintenHOME`where's the use case for default state of false
10:29.32mitch0what happens then? :)
10:29.53Arrowmasteri changed Threat-1.0 to default state of false
10:29.55CIA-1003funkydude * r67855 10StatBlocks_DPS/ (embeds.xml libs/): StatBlocks_DPS: externals
10:30.00Xinhuanthe only use is for a package of addons
10:30.07Xinhuanand you want to make some of them
10:30.11Xinhuandisabled by default
10:30.25Xinhuanyou can then tell users "if yu want this feature, go enable it"
10:30.33mitch0ok, so ## DefaultState: Enabled doesn't actually hurt, right?
10:30.38Xinhuanit doesn't hurt
10:30.42durcynit's redundant
10:30.42Xinhuanbut itdoesn't do anything useful either
10:30.44mitch0ok
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10:30.58mitch0I won't bump the toc just for this then
10:31.00Arrowmasterwe dont even know if thats correct syntax
10:31.01durcyntwentysomething wasted bytes in the toc, think of the memory consumption! </drama>
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10:31.18Xinhuanonce an addon is installed, it goes into addons.txt
10:31.20Xinhuanforever
10:31.25Arrowmasterwhich is annoying
10:31.32Xinhuanwhere it remembers the last enabled/disabled state of it
10:31.35Xinhuaneven if you uninstall it
10:31.36VonhintenHOME`the loader doesn't do much file io with the addon's assets when default state is false, I assume
10:31.37Arrowmastermine has over 500 addons and i try to clean it up at times
10:31.56Xinhuanoh it does
10:32.03ArrowmasterVonhintenHOME`: no it does exactly the same
10:32.03Xinhuanjust because its state is disabled
10:32.10Xinhuandoesn't mean it can't be enabled in the middle of the game
10:32.13Xinhuanesp if its LoD
10:32.24mitch0ok
10:32.38mitch0I'll remove it then, but what should I do with ## LoadManagers?
10:32.48Arrowmasternothing
10:32.50VonhintenHOME`pretty weak use case then... if I want a piece of functionality, I'll download it
10:32.52mitch0I don't have such a line now, should I add one? (it seems to work without it)
10:32.58Arrowmasterno
10:33.01mitch0ok
10:33.04Xinhuanif a Loadmanager is specified, say ## LoadManagers: Abc
10:33.05Arrowmasterif you dont have a use for a line in a toc dont add it
10:33.16Xinhuanif Abc is present, then your addon will NOT load
10:33.29Xinhuanif Abc is absent, then your addon will load
10:33.46Xinhuanthe idea is that Abc is the controlling addon that will control when your addon loads with LoadAddOn
10:34.34Xinhuanfor eg, Postal specifies to AddOnLoader that it should only load on first visiting the mailbox (MAILBOX_UPDATE event or something)
10:34.43mitch0ah. so for my AddonConfig separation, specifying LoadManager: Addon would be the way to go, right? (not that it'd be strictly necessary)
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10:34.54Arrowmastermitch0: no
10:34.55Xinhuannope
10:34.59Xinhuanjust make it LoD
10:35.08Arrowmasterlod and reqdep Addon
10:35.19Xinhuanand your parent addon will LoadAddOn where necessary
10:35.24mitch0yeah, I know. it's again in the "wouldn't hurt, but does nothing" cathegory
10:35.24XinhuanLoadManagers are "optional"
10:35.34Xinhuanum, this is 2 different things
10:35.36Arrowmasterit does hurt
10:35.49mitch0why?
10:35.49Arrowmasterdont put things you dont use in tocs
10:35.51Xinhuanpoint is your Config Addon, is DEPENDANT on your main addon
10:35.59XinhuanLoadManagers are purely optional
10:36.03mitch0op
10:36.05mitch0ok
10:36.06Xinhuanif Abc is absent, it still works perfectly
10:36.17Xinhuanall Abc does if it is present, is delay loading
10:36.21durcynyou've already got a hard dep set, and it's LoD, loadmanagers is thusly redundant
10:36.35CIA-1003mitchell * r67856 10LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.toc: LibRangeCheck-2.0: remove DefaultState to save teh memory, w00t!
10:36.49VonhintenHOME`lol
10:37.03mitch0there ;)
10:37.10CIA-1003whyv * r67857 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua:
10:37.10CIA-10Recount:
10:37.10CIA-10- make zhTW readable ...
10:37.30digmouseand who remember what's the addon that forces chat frame settings to save?
10:37.41mitch0so this is also "bad", right? : ## LoadManagers: AddonLoader
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10:38.04mitch0damn, I'm getting confused again :(
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10:38.17[Ammo]mitch0: depends
10:38.20Arrowmasterdepends on how you use it
10:38.21Anadale_Hello
10:38.30[Ammo]mitch0: AddonLoader is an addon that can load other addons conditionally
10:38.32VonhintenHOME`of course you're confused, cause it was designed by arsehats
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10:39.10[Ammo]VonhintenHOME`: your comments are very helpful
10:39.21VonhintenHOME`I do what I can
10:39.26Xinhuantechnically, i don't know why Quartz uses addonloader, there is almost no login session you won't cast at least one spell
10:39.41[Ammo]Xinhuan: my mage doesn't!
10:39.49Arrowmasteri hate that quartz uses addonloader
10:39.49durcynthat's code for 'stop being such an arsehat yourself, bucko', i think.
10:39.50[Ammo]Xinhuan: she only runs from the bank to the AH :)
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10:39.58[Ammo]Arrowmaster: override it to just load it alwyas
10:40.02Arrowmasteri do
10:40.04Xinhuanyep but it still loads if you target someone that casts a spell
10:40.13Xinhuanto show the targetcastbar
10:40.25Arrowmasterotherwise it bugs when i login then open a craft window and make something before casting a spell
10:40.42mitch0ok, what if I have "## LoadManagers: AddonLoader", but no "## LoadOnDemand" in the toc?
10:40.44Xinhuani just didn't really see the point of quartz using addon loaded
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10:40.59durcynmitch0: then, as mentioned previously, the addon does not load until AddonLoader loads it.
10:41.06Xinhuansince if you're on your lvl 1 alt bank, u could just disable it
10:41.08Arrowmastermitch0: you dont use ## LoadOnDemand with ## LoadManagers
10:41.12durcynmitch0: unless AddonLoader is not present, in which case it loads anyway.
10:41.34durcynmitch0: LoadManagers is not suited to your situation.  LoadOnDemand with a hard Dependicies entry is.
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10:41.47durcynDependencies, bother.
10:41.47CIA-1003anadale 071.2 * r67858 10UnderHood/ (18 files in 5 dirs):
10:41.47CIA-10UnderHood:
10:41.47CIA-10- Bar styles now support zones
10:41.47CIA-10- Added mapping support between providers and zones
10:41.47CIA-10- Casting bar functionality moved to provider
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10:41.48CIA-10- Added Energy/Mana Ticker provider
10:41.50mitch0durcyn: sorry, I'm talking about two issues :)
10:41.50CIA-10- Several performance optimizations
10:42.03durcynit's bloody 6 AM, one topic at a time!
10:42.08mitch0the one with the hard dep and stuff is closed, now I'm talking about RangeDisplay
10:42.18mitch0trying to understand its toc...
10:42.41durcynokay.  take a look at AddonLoader's conditions, and see if one or more of them describes every situation in which RangeDisplay should be active.
10:42.58mitch0ok, and "## X-LoadOn-Always: delayed" tells something to AddonLoader, right?
10:43.24VonhintenHOME`good god
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10:43.34AbsoRayneMy god, I have yet to sleep
10:43.36AbsoRaynewtf.
10:43.47Arrowmastermitch0: yeah it loads it after a short time delay on login
10:44.06mitch0ok, that sounds okayish
10:44.17Groktarhttp://images.thinkgeek.com/products/other/looflirpa/front/habicase.jpg
10:44.21Groktaromg, best case EVER
10:44.47Groktarhampster powah
10:45.03VonhintenHOME`I give that hamster 1 week before hearing loss sets in
10:45.24Groktarhehe
10:45.35Xinhuan## X-LoadOn-Always: delayed
10:45.40Xinhuanis one of the most useless things ever ;p
10:45.46Gagorianhmm
10:45.55GagorianWill %a match letters in korean words?
10:45.55Xinhuanif you're going to load it, might as well just load it at login
10:46.04durcynsomewhere, a gnome on a forklift is crying.
10:46.29CIA-1003mitchell * r67859 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.toc: RangeDisplay: remove DefaultState to save teh memory, w00t!
10:46.31ArrowmasterGagorian: i would hope so
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10:46.48ArrowmasterGagorian: but lua doesnt do utf8
10:46.52GagorianWell some korean posted some DrDamage bug and I really don't know what would be causing it :C
10:47.16mitch0xin: someone talled me back then (arrow?) to use delayed for some reason... forgot what it was though ;)
10:47.18Arrowmasterim guessing it doesnt
10:47.28Arrowmastermitch0: wasnt me
10:47.31Xinhuanwell honestly, what is the point of delaying loading by 1 second?
10:47.32GagorianSince I'm getting specific spell info from GetSpellInfo(name, rank) like GetSpellInfo("Shadow Bolt", "Rank 11")
10:47.37Arrowmasterits not 1 sec
10:47.39GagorianBut some actionbars dont give me "Rank 11"
10:47.40Xinhuanthere is very very few situations you need to do that
10:47.41Gagorianbut they give me 11
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10:47.55Xinhuanwell its nto exactly 1 second, but you get what i mean
10:47.59GagorianSo I need to locale speficially, get the word for "Rank"
10:48.05Xinhuanits going to get loaded anyway, within a few secs of login
10:48.09VonhintenHOME`reminds me of the goddamn .net loader lock issues
10:48.19mitch0ok, so what would be a "sane" setting for X-LoadOn-Always?
10:48.21Xinhuanits just extra overhead of having to use addonloader to process loading it
10:48.25Gagorianelseif not string_match(rank, "%a+") and GetSpellInfo(name) then rank = string_gsub(select(2,GetSpellInfo(name)),"%d+", rank) end
10:48.31Gagorianso I'm betting that doesn't work
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10:49.03durcynmitch0: and the point of using X-LoadOn-Always instead of a proper condition, or just loading the damn thing is...?
10:49.04ArrowmasterGagorian: try %D+
10:49.23durcynyou're modifying something to only load with a load manager, then telling the load manager to always load it
10:49.24[Ammo]X-LoadOnAlways: true
10:49.27RafAntiarc here?
10:49.32[Ammo]durcyn: and then you can use overrides
10:49.43durcyneh, fair enough.
10:49.48[Ammo]durcyn: for instance override it to: X-LoadOnLevel: 70
10:49.55[Ammo]which would enable it only for your level 70's
10:49.59mitch0durcyn: it's supposedly for those that prefer AddonLoader to enable/disable mods rather than the default blizz thingy
10:50.11durcynhey, i conceded four lines ago =P
10:50.15ArrowmasterAddonLoader doesnt enable/disable mods
10:50.23[Ammo]indeed
10:50.24Xinhuanmy only point is, addonloader is nice
10:50.30Xinhuanbut ## X-LoadOn-Always: delayed <-- i feel this is stupid
10:50.44Arrowmasterit reduces load time
10:50.51Funkeh`Does player entering combat fire if you log in in combat
10:50.51[Ammo]Xinhuan: it makes sure you enter world quickly and after that your addons are loaded staggered
10:50.59GagorianArrowmaster alright. What does %D+ stand for?
10:51.10Funkeh`Gagorian, number match
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10:51.10ArrowmasterGagorian: everything but %d+
10:51.26mitch0ok, the vote on what setting I should use for that bloody X-LoadOn-Always...
10:51.27GagorianOh alright that makes sense then
10:51.34Xinhuanthe staggering isn't really good, because staggered loading produces about 0.1 seconds of lockups per addon
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10:51.51GagorianArrowmaster: So essentially the same as [^%d]+
10:51.52Gagorian?
10:51.54Xinhuanmight as well just have loaded it in the first place
10:52.09ArrowmasterGagorian: yeah exactly the same
10:52.15mitch0xin: so your vote is X-LoadOn-Always: true, right?
10:52.25Elkanoback in the old days games used to be better... or at least the advertising for them... http://youtube.com/watch?v=Om84Zc4-KcQ
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10:52.35Xinhuanthat is totally redudant, i wouldn't even use addonloader if u use that
10:52.42[Ammo]mitch0: if you want people to be able to override loading your addon then yes
10:52.42GagorianArrowmaster: Well that's handy, didn't know one could do the complement like that ;)
10:52.53Xinhuanentering the world that 0.5 faster, but staggering loading 5 addons at 0.1 freezes, doesn't make logging in any faster
10:53.04Ellipsisany forum admins on? this thread needs deleted -> http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12506.0
10:53.10Xinhuansince you aren't able to do anything until those staggered freezes are over
10:53.11[Ammo]hmm Ellipsis I'll check it
10:53.27ArrowmasterXinhuan: lets you see what somebody said in chat 0.5 sec ago
10:53.45ArrowmasterXinhuan: so its faster!
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10:53.56Kurax~framexml
10:53.57purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/
10:54.42mitch0ok, so to keep the AddonLoader folks happy, I should have: "## LoadManagers: AddonLoader" and "## X-LoadOn-Always: true". is that the consesus? :)
10:54.48GagorianActually Arrowmaster: if type(tonumber(rank)) ~= "number" might be better
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10:54.51GagorianNeed to see which is faster
10:54.52[Ammo]Ellipsis: deleted and user permabanned
10:55.16zaplFunkeh`: Statsblock_Dogtag is bugged. It is stuck showing default tag regardless of what i enter :( happend after entering invalid tag
10:55.16dezziwhat was it
10:55.24Gngskgold add
10:55.25dezziporn?
10:55.31dezzidamn :/
10:55.38Funkeh`zapl, you should bug orionshock ;p
10:55.45Ellipsischeers [Ammo]
10:56.18zaplFunkeh`: not here atm, so i cant but i needs to bug someone :D
10:56.20[Ammo]gold spam it was
10:56.29Funkeh`post on the forumz
10:57.07ArrowmasterEllipsis: what was that forum post?
10:57.08CIA-1003mitchell * r67860 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.toc: RangeDisplay: some say X-LoadOn-Always: delayed is stupid
10:57.15Ellipsisit was an ad for a gold selling site
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10:57.21CIA-1003elkano * r67861 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (5 files): FuBar_GuildFu: when you c&p do it from the correct file ^^'
10:57.31krkawhy do type? just tonumber(rank) == nil should be enough
10:57.42krkai don't think tonumber can return any other types than nil or number
10:57.53[Ammo]krka: you're right
10:58.26CIA-1003mitchell * r67862 10CooldownToGo/CooldownToGo.toc: CooldownToGo: toc cleanup
10:58.34Gagoriankrka: True
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10:59.42GagorianIt's silly how one doesn't sometime see the simplest solutions :D
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11:00.02GagorianThen when someone says it, it's facepalm time
11:00.12VonhintenHOME`That's the problem with having too many ways to do things
11:00.33mitch0& (food)
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11:01.30Rafpeers for Antiarc
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11:02.22Gagorianmyes tonumber is twice as fast as string.match
11:03.00VonhintenHOME`which might actually be noticable, if you put it in a loop that does about a million iterations :)
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11:04.49Gagorianyes I tested with 30 million iterations
11:07.53Gngskkrka, do you still use FAIAP with tinypad?
11:08.01CIA-1003gagorian * r67863 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua):
11:08.01CIA-10DrDamage:
11:08.01CIA-10- Possible fix to korean rank issue
11:08.04JoshBorkewowlua > tinypad :-D
11:08.15JoshBorkeas soon as clad releases multiple pages that is
11:08.15Gngskhmm, guess I'll check that out
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11:08.36JoshBorkeright now it's only one page >_<
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11:08.51JoshBorkei have a buggy copy that includes multiple pages
11:08.52Gngskhmm, yeah I wouldn't be able to live w/o multiple pages
11:09.01zaplFunkeh`: that might be your failure: When changing the Tagstring in config it happend to me that the save button was still unclickable and next time after reopening config when i tried to save a new tag some old tag was restored
11:09.28Gngskbut the issue I wanted to ask krka about w/tinypad and faiap is newline spam with an open string
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11:11.36Orionshockzapl: wtf? u talking bout the dog tag module for statblocks?
11:12.04zaplya
11:12.16CIA-1003funkydude * r67864 10StatBlocks_DPS/ (. StatBlocks_DPS.lua): StatBlocks_DPS: Only update in combat
11:12.27Orionshockzapl: what's wrong iwth it?
11:13.17Orionshocki authored that one, what's wrong?
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11:13.41zaplOrionshock: check your wowace forum msgs in 5 min I am just writing the explanation there :)
11:13.54Orionshockkk
11:13.57Funkeh`dps block is smoking now
11:14.41CIA-1003rabbit * r67865 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Can now hide members of certain classes or ranks from the tooltip.
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11:14.50zaplOrionshock: msg is out
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11:15.46Orionshockah fk, the get/set functions are prolly being ghosted
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11:21.44krkaGngsk: i don't play wow any more
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11:23.47Gngskkrka, ahh ok
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11:28.36zaplOrionshock: unit = "player",
11:28.47Orionshockeh?
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11:28.55zaplcan that be changed ingame?
11:29.05zaplhit enter accidently -.-
11:29.19CIA-1003chexsum * r67866 10LibFeedback-0.1/ (LibFeedback-0.1.lua LibFeedback-0.1.toc):
11:29.19CIA-10LibFeedback-0.1:
11:29.19CIA-10- Added mixin code and made it work a bit better
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11:29.41OrionshockDT3 dosn't make specific allotments for the unit when u register the tag, so the tag it'self has to specify the unit
11:29.56Ellipsisit does if you pass a kwargs table in with your registration
11:30.20CIA-1003chexsum * r67867 10CombatAlert/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
11:30.20CIA-10CombatAlert:
11:30.20CIA-10- Fixed library loading and a couple of other things
11:30.28Orionshock<<-- not that smart
11:30.32Ellipsiswe know.
11:30.36zapl:)
11:30.43ramozso rude Ellipsis
11:30.47Ellipsishe doesn't mind
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11:30.55ramozbut we do!
11:30.58Ellipsishe's usually quite proud of his stupidity
11:31.04OrionshockEllipsis:  i don't even know u IRL, not that i'd want to, but i still feel offended
11:31.05CIA-1003chexsum * r67868 10KillingSpree/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:31.05CIA-10KillingSpree:
11:31.05CIA-10- Fixed library loading and a couple of other things
11:31.12Ellipsisramoz: eh, you're welcome to form your own opinions of me
11:31.33ramozehum... k
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11:33.00Orionshock& Ellipsis it's not that im proud of my stupidity, it is habbit for me to tell ppl that want something of me that im not smart enough to do things like that when really i just don't care to figure it out.... i work customer support, when they find someone smart they don't let go of you till they have sucked what little life i have left out :|
11:33.23CIA-1003funkydude * r67869 10StatBlocks/Locales/enUS.lua: StatBlocks: add some locale
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11:33.38Orionshockheads back to school to figure out how to use pronouns correctly
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11:35.56zaplOrionshock: if locale is != enUS then set_Tag_locale will be empty so ppl have no text at all? default to just "Tag:" maybe since nearly language independant. *suck life btw*
11:36.26Orionshockzapl: u do know that the dogtag block was a joke & hack
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11:38.27CIA-1003orionshock * r67870 10StatBlocks_DogTag/StatBlocks_DogTag.lua: StatBlocks_DogTag: fix some db references for ppl that are OCD
11:38.51zaplyes i read the forum thread. but i like it :)
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11:39.28CIA-1003funkydude * r67871 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua: StatBlocks_DPS: 1,2,3, color, color, color
11:39.46Orionshockthe btch of it is that if i made it to support more than 1 block... i'd be reimplementing half of statblocks core...
11:40.30Funkeh`just do lots of self:New
11:40.34[Ammo]Funkeh`: learn to use functions for options tables
11:40.48Funkeh`[Ammo], it's on the todo
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11:40.56OrionshockFunkeh`: can't b/c new() attaches the fontstring to the module core
11:41.08Funkeh`hm
11:41.19Orionshockso i'd have to move it each time + pass the perticular block in each setting get/set option
11:41.39[Ammo]Funkeh`: and reuse certain functionality from the core, like textclors etc and lock and ....
11:41.43OrionshockOR, create an entire new module stub for each block
11:41.44SunTsuHey, my first addon loads. Great. So all that's left for me to do ist actually write a line of code ;)
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11:41.53SunTsus/ist/is/
11:42.02Funkeh`[Ammo], heh, feel fre to help out :x
11:42.03[Ammo]then again you wouldn't need a core if you used legoblock :)
11:42.11[Ammo]instead of reinventing the wheel :)
11:42.15[Ammo]just giving you some comments
11:42.34JoshBorkeblocks are a bitch
11:42.47Orionshockya Funkeh` why not use legoblock for it? it has sticky frames (IIRC) :D
11:42.58JoshBorkeit's too big for him
11:43.03krkado you think so JoshBorke? it's just a matter of time before blocks come to an end
11:43.24JoshBorkekrka:  that doesn't make any sense to me :-P
11:43.39krkameh, i just wanted to wrap a sentence in do ... end :/
11:43.49JoshBorkelol
11:44.05krkait was funnier in my head :/
11:44.08JoshBorkedo you really have to go through such measure to reach an end?
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11:44.27krkado want end
11:44.44JoshBorkedo what you will to reach your end
11:44.52JoshBorkethat's kind of morbid...
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11:45.44Funkeh`do if you reach your end end?
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11:46.07JoshBorke~fail Funkeh`
11:46.08purlFunkeh`: FAIL!
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11:48.45JoshBorkeman, i'm bummed they decided to get rid of the black hole for motherships
11:48.48JoshBorkeand make them non unique
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11:49.14JoshBorkethough, they were super op'd
11:49.42CIA-1003antiarc * r67872 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:
11:49.42CIA-10Threat-2.0:
11:49.42CIA-10- Optimize buff scanning - use a metatable to cache name/rank -> spell ID lookups. O(n^2) -> O(n) past the first lookup! Yay!
11:49.42CIA-10- Add additional debug messages for buff/debuff gain/loss for help in debugging the Bloodboil problem
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11:50.03Olisonthe heck fucked up guildfu
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11:51.35OlisonElkano: nub no more pls
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11:52.51Olisonseriously, why do people commit stuff to /trunk when it raises errors
11:53.06SnagoOlison: It's called development
11:53.14OrionshockOlison: don't update
11:53.20Olisonit's called /trunk for a reason \o/
11:53.25Orionshock&?
11:53.28dezziwtb /stable tree
11:53.28Olisonand neither branches nor tags
11:53.45Orionshockwhen have we ever treated the SVN with anything resembling normal practices?
11:53.47ZhinjioG"morning.
11:53.47ElkanoOlison, it's working for me... so rather give error description or stay silent, mkay...
11:54.15Elkanoand yes, it's called trunk since it's the main development branch...
11:54.17Olisonwell, did you try to run it without friendsfu? maybe?
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11:54.55Elkanoif you mean that error it's fixed for about an hour I think
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11:55.50Orionshockwtb GetAvailQuestID() that gets the quest id off the NPC Gossip window
11:55.53Olisonoh well then i wonder how i could get it with an update just five minutes ago
11:56.03Orionshock:\ gg that would make my addon a good 10% smaller
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11:56.55elaaFuBar_GuildFu\FuBar_GuildFuLocals.enUS.lua:2: attempt to index global 'FuBar_FriendsFu' (a nil value)
11:56.58mitch0elkano: you can have a friendly discussion about that with grum (trunk being the main development branch) :)
11:56.59elaafor all locales
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12:00.29Elkanowell, you didn't even tell what exact error you are getting...
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12:00.55GngskKemayo, ping
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12:05.14[Ammo]for icons in text like |T |t etc
12:05.21[Ammo]do I need to fill in the numbers as well
12:05.27[Ammo]or can I just leave out any : : : stuff?
12:05.50Elkanomaybe the first one is needed, but don't know
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12:06.35[Ammo]ofcourse the icon is needed
12:06.38[Ammo]I will experiment
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12:07.00[Ammo]ah 2x :: after the icon
12:07.18Elkanono, I meant the height
12:07.37[Ammo]it'll autoscale to the fontstring
12:07.39[Ammo]which is cool
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12:09.30Elkanobtw: seen the screenshot when I tried to use the icons in tooltip for mendeleev? :/
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12:09.57ZhinjioAnyone happen to know who maintains nQuestLog?
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12:10.28Josh_Borkeodd
12:10.36Xelopherisno u
12:10.36Josh_Borkei had to register before i could join
12:10.39XelopherisHey kaid.
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12:12.16CIA-1003antiarc * r67873 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:
12:12.16CIA-10Threat-2.0:
12:12.16CIA-10- Add spell icons to the lookup index to prevent ambiguities. Addresses Kalecgos, Wild Magic debuff.
12:12.16CIA-10- Remove two of the Fel Rage entries; should hopefully fix collision issues with Fel Rage, resulting in incorrect handling.
12:12.16zaplZhinjio: quagmire
12:12.32Zhinjiothanks.
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12:12.49Ellipsislicks Zhinjio
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12:13.17Roblibobhm, has mendWatch developement died?
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12:13.36[SW]DodgeEllipsis: the search function from dogtag3 /dog us bugged... i search for "icon" and get ceil, log, deg, floor etc...
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12:14.02kenlyricRoblibob: possibly. I've thought about looking at it.
12:14.16kenlyricI did notice it seemed to be either not work at all or be somewhat broken last night
12:14.38Roblibobhaven't work since 2.4 afaik
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12:14.54CIA-1003ammo * r67874 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: fix icons in default frame and turn on by default again
12:14.59kenlyricyeah, I haven't bee in a group since june :)
12:15.08Roblibobshouldn't be too much of a huzzle to fix.
12:15.36Ellipsis[SW]Dodge: hm, I'll look into it
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12:15.59[SW]DodgeEllipsis: it seems that it will show all tags
12:16.32Ellipsisahahah, I know why
12:16.41[SW]Dodgewhy? :)
12:16.44Ellipsisyeah, if you search for anything other than icon it will work fine
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12:16.50Ellipsishe used the icon tag to implement the bullet points
12:17.03EllipsisI'll fix it later
12:17.05[SW]Dodgelol
12:17.07ZhinjioG'morning, Ellipsis
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12:17.42[SW]DodgeEllipsis: can you tell me then if there is a tag like the icon tag but for raidicon?
12:17.46RoblibobEllipsis: sweet
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12:18.00durcynsomeone has a fan club.
12:18.08kenlyricstrange, it doesn't appear to use parserlib
12:18.08Slaymanyeah me
12:18.42Ellipsislol
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12:18.51Ellipsis[SW]Dodge: [RaidIcon]
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12:19.09[SW]DodgeEllipsis: thanks :)
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12:19.35[SW]Dodgebtw: search for raid -> all tags in search result ^^
12:19.35Wulfoshi
12:19.59Wulfosis there a api function to check if the players group is a party or a raid?
12:20.30kenlyricoh, i'm dumb, there's where is uses parserlib
12:21.24CIA-1003funkydude * r67875 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: remove some tables
12:21.27kenlyricCHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_HOSTILEPLAYER_BUFFS
12:21.40kenlyricseems sorta  overkill for a prayer of mending tracker...
12:21.52mitch0wulfos: GetRaidMembers() > 0 (or somesuch)
12:22.00Ellipsis[SW]Dodge: the path to the bullet point is Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-RaidTargetingIcon_2
12:22.05Ellipsisif you search for "targeting" you'll get every tag too
12:22.14Ellipsisanything that matches that path will return every tag
12:22.25Wulfosmitch0: ok, thank you, ill gonna try it
12:22.41[SW]DodgeEllipsis: bad ^^
12:23.39Ellipsisyes, I'm going to prod ck when he wakes up to fix it so it either escapes texturelinks or skips examples altogether when caching for the search database
12:24.43[SW]Dodge:)
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12:25.34kenlyricRoblibob: do you use grid?
12:26.19Roblibobaye
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12:27.14Roblibobi don't like to clutter up my center icons though ;)
12:27.30kenlyricthat's ok, you have 8 more to choose from :)
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12:32.43kenlyricthat's probably what I'll do if I take a stab at it, make it work sensibly in grid. Not sure how I'd handle both duration and count. grid doesn't handle duration very well.
12:32.46kenlyricso maybe I won't
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12:34.48charonAntiarc: (or maybe someone else)
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12:35.01charonr67872 "Add additional debug messages for buff/debuff gain/loss for help in debugging the Bloodboil problem"
12:35.16charonwhat am i looking for? i might be at bloodboil tonight
12:35.31Slaymanfor crying out loud could somebody shut up penguin leave/joins?
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12:37.09CIA-1003trasher * r67876 10Antagonist/Locals/frFR.lua:
12:37.09CIA-10Antagonist:
12:37.09CIA-10- frFR utf-8 parsing
12:37.53Josh_Borke[Ammo]: wake up and ban penguin
12:39.06kenlyricsweet, delicious conference mode
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12:39.53SunTsupenguin_: Planning on stopping your client quitting and joining anytime soon?
12:40.10chdstJoin/part hiding FTW!
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12:50.09sicacharon: for some reason Threat-2.0 does not reset the DebuffThreatMultiplier to 1 after you the Insignifigance Debuff is removed
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12:52.30CIA-1003funkydude * r67877 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: Add GetX SetX GetY SetY
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12:56.44Slaymanchdst: I would love to do that, but i don't know how to not show them in Miranda
12:57.11Josh_Borkepastamancer, vhaarr, Tem, MoonWolf, Funkeh`, ckknight, [Ammo]: ping, ban penguin :-P
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12:58.47Slaymanwell, that was certainly not the right combination of buttons to press Josh_Borke :p
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12:59.29Funkeh`penguin_, either fix your connection or leave until it I fixed please
12:59.36SlaymanFunkeh`: would you please ban penguin_ if you have the time to do it at your disposal, thank you und advance
12:59.38Funkeh`it is*
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13:00.03Slayman*in
13:01.04charonsica: ok, i'll keep an eye open. i've missed out on BT last week so i wouldn't know ;)
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13:01.51Daemonarequests a ... wow that was fast.
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13:03.22Slayman2nds Ellipsis-- note
13:03.31MoonWolfwhy is this channel full of leave /joins and why is it highlighted to hell ?
13:03.50Kalrothhighlights MoonWolf
13:04.02kenlyricwhere I am? what's going on!
13:04.07SlaymanThat dear MoonWolf was a penguin, and he just got banned
13:04.11MoonWolfyay!
13:04.52kenlyricI think tracking down mod conflict errors is my *favorite* activity
13:05.09Ellipsis--kenlyric: "you know you need a life when..."
13:05.11MoonWolfis it this, no, damnit, *restart wow*
13:05.46ramoz/ignore #wowace JOINS PARTS QUITS
13:05.49ramozfixed!
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13:06.29Ellipsis--IRC feels naked without join/part messages :<
13:06.32MoonWolframoz, i like knowing who joins, and leaves etc.
13:06.43kenlyricyou still see kicks :)
13:06.49MoonWolfhehehe!
13:07.08ramozMoonWolf: this channel is too big to memerize who's here or not
13:07.15KuraxI cant even get those messages, Chinchilla is weak
13:07.18chdstI have a pretty simple mod that only shows join/parts for people that have acted in the last 10 mins...very useful.
13:07.22Kuraxer, I mean Chatzilla....
13:07.33kenlyricKurax: sure you can
13:07.35Ellipsis--~lart Kurax
13:07.35purljudo chops Kurax
13:07.35ramoz=(
13:07.44kenlyricjust turn the conference mode threshold off
13:08.41KuraxEllipsis--: Thats because that name is deep in my heart
13:08.57Ellipsis--still, no reason to abuse the lil' furry guy
13:09.32Kurax-,-
13:09.36kenlyricI gotta find out what makes mods smart enough to only load on a certain class
13:09.45Ellipsis--magic
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13:12.23Kuraxwow, they moved SSC graveyard
13:12.32Gngskwow, you died in SSC
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13:12.49Kurax~smart Gngsk
13:12.50purlACTION plops a heatsink on Gngsk's head so Gngsk's brain so it doesn't overheat.
13:13.12Gngsksry, was couldn't resist :(
13:13.12Ellipsisfail at grammar, purl
13:13.14Slaymanhow to correct purl?
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13:13.15CIA-1003funkydude * r67878 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: add GetLabelColor SetLabelColor for modules with separate label coloring options
13:13.22Slayman~fail purl
13:13.23purlpurl, you Fail!
13:13.24Ellipsispurl, literal smart
13:13.25purl"smart" is "the opposite of stupid, or the opposite of straightforward and polite, or what I definitely am, or "Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology" used by some hard drive manufacturers to detect imminent drive failure"
13:13.35Ellipsissigh
13:13.58charonpurl, literal smart X
13:13.59purlACTION plops a heatsink on X's head so X's brain so it doesn't overheat.
13:14.04RafffAntiarc around?
13:14.08charonhmm. almost.
13:15.09kenlyricfuck a duck on a truck with a bucket
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13:15.15kenlyricnow the error won't reproduce
13:15.19chdstHaving bad luck?
13:15.31Cryectthe duck stole his bucket
13:15.38chdstthat sucks.
13:15.50GnarfozI'm happy it doesn't reproduce, otherwhise we'd soon have lots of little errors
13:17.30Slaymanthat grow up themselves and give life to even more little errors
13:17.44Xinhuan...
13:17.48XinhuanFucking blackrock down again
13:17.56SlaymanEU?
13:18.02XinhuanUS
13:18.07Xinhuanthis time, we can't hand out ilidan loot
13:18.17Xinhuanwe already lost shahraz corpse earlier 2 hours ago
13:18.18Slaymansounds like our good ol' lagrock
13:18.33Xinhuanwith 1xescalated ticket
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13:19.37ncd|AileenSVN Admin here? :)
13:20.23durcynncd|Aileen: no, only svn admin afaik is Kaelten, and he's always busy
13:20.33ncd|Aileenmh, ok :(
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13:21.07KuraxSo a horse walked into a bar, and the bartender said: Hey, why the long face?
13:21.24Slayman~notfunny
13:21.45Kurax~fail Kurax
13:21.46purlKurax: FAIL!
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13:23.02KuraxI saw Xinhuan's name in comment while checking FrameXML
13:24.59quiescensIs there a new email virus making the rounds
13:25.11wereHamsteralways
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13:27.19Slaymanquiescens: question or statement?
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13:27.46ramozwereHamster, somethings fucked with the coolDown btw - but i havnt been able to find a pattern. But it shows to many spells are on CD
13:28.01durcynramoz: were you locked out from an interrupt?
13:28.13wereHamsterthat might explain in
13:28.19ramozehm, i might
13:28.24durcynwell then ;)
13:28.31ramozits in pvp so i guess so
13:29.04wereHamsterI'm... ehm... too lazy to fix it. Sorry
13:29.09CIA-1003sylvanaar * r67879 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Class-2.2/Babble-Class-2.2.lua:
13:29.09CIA-10Babble-2.2:
13:29.09CIA-10- Babble-Class-2.2: Added GetGenderNeutralClass(), which will return the english class name in all caps, ie. DRUID when passed either the feminine or masculine localized class name.
13:29.18ramozwhat! you said you'd never leave your addons :O
13:29.50Funkeh`sylvanaar_work, ...
13:29.59sylvanaar_workFunkeh` what
13:30.06Ellipsismakes popcorn
13:30.09wereHamsterwell, I was lying I guess
13:30.18Funkeh`why don't you just use the 2nd return of UnitClass
13:30.23CIA-1003kunda * r67880 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/Localization/ (deDE.lua enUS.lua koKR.lua zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): Omen: deDE update and removed a duplicated locale string
13:30.38ramozwereHamster: liar liar pants on fire!
13:30.44sylvanaar_workFunkeh` well, when GetGuildInfo returns valid units I will
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13:31.40sylvanaar_workBabble-Class is still needed, pass it on
13:31.52Funkeh`for guild colors?
13:32.15sylvanaar_workafaik
13:32.17wereHamsterI'm still in this irc channel, even though I don't have a wow account. That should mean something
13:32.30Funkeh`didn't they add a function to get the color when they added guild coloring
13:32.39sylvanaar_workfriends
13:33.06dylanmHm it does show for guildmembers doesn't it
13:33.29sylvanaar_workidk, if you figure it out, lemme know
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13:33.47Elkanosylvanaar_work, iirc BC doesn't include the female class names... that's why I changed FriendsFu/GuildFu to include there own reverse translations :/
13:33.58sylvanaar_workBC does
13:34.04sylvanaar_worklook at it
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13:34.37dylanmOoooh.
13:34.54CIA-1003ammo * r67881 10WitchHunt/ (6 files in 2 dirs): WitchHunt: allow $i to place the icon anywhere in the text.
13:35.08dylanmsylvanaar_work: Apparently there's an extra return to GetGuildRosterInfo now
13:35.14Elkanosylvanaar_work, no, it doesn't. neither the 2.2 nor the 3.0 version
13:35.28Elkanothere is?
13:35.57Elkanothere is...
13:36.08dylanmWell, one that isn't documented on wowwiki. Look at lines 663 and 667
13:36.09dylanmhttp://wdnaddons.com/2408089/FrameXML/FriendsFrame.lua
13:36.20Xinhuan[4/3 21:22:54] <Kurax> I saw Xinhuan's name in comment while checking FrameXML
13:36.22Xinhuanhi kurax :)
13:36.33sylvanaar_workElkano what do you mean there are no reverse xlations in bc-2.2? I put them there
13:37.10dylanmActually that doesn't make much sense...
13:37.47dylanmBut it has to be it. GetWhoInfo does it too.
13:37.48dylanmNeat.
13:37.52Elkanosylvanaar_work but not for the new female class names
13:38.09[Ammo]Elkano: you have classFileName now from GetGuildRosterInfo
13:38.12[Ammo]don't you
13:38.31sylvanaar_workElkano what are you talking about?
13:39.06dylanm[Ammo]: Doesn't look like GetFriendInfo is as accomodating :-/
13:39.15CIA-1003gagorian * r67882 10DrDamage/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
13:39.15CIA-10DrDamage:
13:39.15CIA-10- Added option to swap between primary and secondary calculations for dual purpose abilities (holy shock, holy nova)
13:39.15CIA-10- Performance optimizations
13:39.17dylanm<3 Blizz
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13:40.14Elkanosylvanaar_work, with 2.4 eg on German client classes return according to gender where BC only holds the male names
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13:40.33sylvanaar_workElkano you havent looked at BC yet have you
13:40.45sylvanaar_worklook at it
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13:41.55Elkanohttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Babble-2.2/Babble-Class-2.2/Babble-Class-2.2.lua ? http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibBabble-Class-3.0/LibBabble-Class-3.0.lua ?
13:42.37sylvanaar_work2.2
13:43.05Elkanooh, ok, it's a bit strange done in there
13:43.35sylvanaar_workthats so existing addons wouldnt break
13:44.11Elkanodamn, GetFriendInfo didn't get an extra return value
13:44.18[Ammo]indeed
13:44.30[Ammo]I say suggest to slouken
13:44.40[Ammo]I think they'd add it no problem
13:44.43Elkanowell, someone else will have to
13:44.44Nandinii can tell everyone is excited for russian wow and 4 or 5 declensions per word to reverse localize :)
13:45.00[Ammo]*barf*
13:45.12durcyni believe the reponse you're looking for is "fuck russia".
13:45.28Nandiniin soviet russia, noun declines YOU
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13:46.55[Ammo]hmm looking for a spellID of a spell with a pretty icon I can use for the default witchhunt demo message
13:47.43NandiniGetSpellInfo(42521)
13:48.07[Ammo]haha
13:48.09[Ammo]awesome
13:48.23Ellipsisuse the eye of kilrogg one, fits the addon
13:48.48[Ammo]multiple is fine too
13:48.51[Ammo]one per message type
13:49.11Nandiniyup 126 is good too, the eyeball one
13:50.04SlaymanFF3 beta5 looking good!
13:50.22Nandinispell 44185 is in the "witch" theme too
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13:50.40Uhuruhi
13:50.48Uhuru2008/04/03 15:56:38-1914-x1]: LibBabble-Boss-3.0\LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:61: LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: Translation "Weapon" not found for locale "frFR"AtlasLoot\TableRegister\loottables.en.lua:911: in main chunk
13:50.57Uhuruweapon = arme
13:51.04wereHamsterI think beta5 is the last beta, my version doesn't show any 'beta' in its version, it's just 3.0pre
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13:55.18CIA-1003rabbit * r67883 10AuraToChat/ (AuraToChat.lua AuraToChat.toc libs/): AuraToChat: Remove SEEA dep, use combat log instead.
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13:56.00Slaymanwell at least on my machine Beta5 did not pass the Acid3 Test :-D
13:56.14CIA-1003zeksie * r67884 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
13:56.14CIA-10ZOMGBuffs:
13:56.14CIA-10- Fixed Shadow protection raid popup icon.
13:56.15CIA-10- Sanity checks on Manager comms in certain cases.
13:56.15CIA-10- Tweaked raid popup key setting.
13:56.15CIA-10- Callbacks for SharedMedia.
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13:57.31CIA-1003ammo * r67885 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua locales/enUS.lua): WitchHunt: fix localization error and use a better WH icon and messages
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13:58.35kenlyricnice.
13:58.41kenlyricnow the error won't reproduce at all
13:59.02kenlyricI'm going to call that a victory
13:59.59Slaymanunless some dude pops up with that error in the latest revision :-P
14:00.49CIA-1003sylvanaar * r67886 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: OptDep LSM-3.0
14:01.23Slaymanf*ing loves Guitar Hero 3 on his Wii, as it kicks serious butt
14:01.32GngskXinhuan, ping
14:01.38Xinhuan?_?
14:01.45Gngskhttp://gngsk.pastey.net/85016
14:01.52Gngskinline item textures instead of tooltip:AddTexture()
14:01.58Gngsk12 icons on tooltip :D
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14:02.41RoblibobSlayman: slayer on hard sux :(
14:03.19SlaymanRoblibob: i have severe problems on Medium, and I did not rock Raining Blood on easy :-D
14:03.37[Ammo]hmm for SPELL_AURA_APPLIED is the srcName the target of the aura?
14:03.51durcyndon't think so
14:04.07RoblibobThe only song i havent completed on hard and i've done most of the expert ones
14:04.26durcynnope, APPLIED and APPLIED_DOSE the actor gaining the buff is the destination
14:05.00[Ammo]hmm
14:05.15RoblibobSlayman: but that mushy section after the intro and first part is impossible
14:05.15SlaymanRoblibob: I'm just an average player, and as long as at the songs end it says "You Rock!" I'm entirely happy
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14:05.38SlaymanRoblibob: Impossible is just Though the Fire & Flames
14:05.38durcynyou can also check suffix 1 for "BUFF" fwiw
14:05.42[Ammo]and for diseplled and stolen as well I suppose?
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14:05.55Kulaarcan you change barcolor of bigwigs bars?
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14:06.06durcynhm, _REMOVED yes, not sure about stolen
14:06.19RoblibobSlayman: aye, i can complete it on medium, but on hard i just get over run by notes :o
14:06.37[Ammo]Kulaar: bigwigs menu -> plugins -> colors
14:06.43Kulaarah ty
14:07.11CIA-1003ammo * r67887 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: use dispel format for dispels
14:07.31durcynbut afaik REMOVED also fires when STOLEN does
14:07.50SlaymanRoblibob: i got run over on easy, i just have issues with Pull Offs and Hammer Ons
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14:09.43CIA-1003ammo * r67888 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: bugfix aura fade / remove
14:09.44durcynnow if only we could get an event when an aura is refreshed
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14:11.58charon~lart Maple
14:11.58purlcrushes Maple with a full height scsi disk
14:12.03charonthanks purl. i feel better now
14:12.45RoblibobSlayman: I had that too in the beginning when playing medium. I some point I stopped thinking about the guitar as a control. About the same time the twinkie started to sync with my brain :o
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14:17.45sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: blame Arrowmaster not ckknight :P
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14:21.38sag_ich_nicht(reffering to commit r67789)
14:21.40CIA-1003athou * r67889 10MultiTips/MultiTips.lua:
14:21.40CIA-10MultiTips:
14:21.40CIA-10- Fixed the absurd behavior of the tips when right clicking on one of the tips with several tips open. Also, the whole code is now cleaner
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14:23.02AnadaleHello once again. Something strange is going on with SVN server - I'm trying to merge my changes from branch onto trunk and getting "PROPFIND request failed..." error all the time :(
14:23.15AnadaleIs it alive at all?
14:23.22CIA-10037destiny * r67890 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: koKR Update
14:23.24mitch0anadale: are you behind a proxy?
14:23.29Anadaleno
14:23.42mitch0how exactly are you doing the merge?
14:24.23Anadalesvn merge -r 67240:67858 http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/UnderHood/1.2
14:25.25AnadaleIt may process some files (from zero to eight) and the fails
14:25.27mitch0hm. looks innocent enough
14:25.42mitch0is your current working copy up-to-date?
14:25.56Anadaleyes
14:26.03Anadalesvn: PROPFIND of '/wowace/!svn/ver/67858/branches/UnderHood/1.2/libs': 500 ( The specified network name is no longer available.  ) (http://dev.wowace.com)
14:26.09Anadalehere is exact error
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14:27.13mitch0I've seen that !svn before...
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14:28.01mitch0anadale: try with -r 67240:HEAD
14:28.16Anadaleok, will try, thanks
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14:28.44sacarascis Omen2 broken, or is it a problem with me seomewhere?
14:29.28Xinhuan[4/3 22:01:50] <Gngsk> 12 icons on tooltip :D
14:29.31mitch0anadale: that merge went fine here with a fresh checkout of trunk
14:29.33Xinhuandoes that work on different fonts?
14:29.38Xinhuanand different sizes
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14:30.53AnadaleNo, still doesn't work for me :(
14:30.54FritzDoes anyone know a good tooltip addon? I tried TinyTip but it seems to be broken
14:30.59GngskXinhuan, I can try testing, but my guess would be yes. someone said earlier that it scales with the fontstring
14:31.10AnadaleGngsk: CowTip
14:31.23Anadaleop, sorrt
14:31.28Anadaleit was to Fritz
14:31.32Gngskahh, k
14:31.35GngskI was confused
14:31.58Gngskit was [Ammo] that said it scaled, I would take his word
14:32.00mitch0anadale: I think your working copy is b0rked somehow. I could do  your merge locally
14:32.01FritzK I'll try that
14:32.04Gngskbut I'll test regardless
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14:33.11Xinhuanyeah, ok
14:33.18AnadaleWill try with a fresh copy
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14:35.48_raneis there a way to find what's name of the sound file that plays when you try to use an ability that's on cooldown?
14:36.46FritzUhmm.. is there a very minimal CowTip template I can download? This is a mess..
14:37.38AnadaleFritz: Just open configuration and remove lines that you do not need
14:37.45SlaymanFritz: CowTip rocks and stuff, but try TipTac, it might suit your special needs better, as it's closer to TinyTip as far as i can tell
14:37.54Gngskxinhuan, http://ctscreens.net/10220, http://ctscreens.net/10221
14:38.38Fritz:| I don't have special needs, I set up Pitbull.
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14:39.51Slaymanpitbull ain't especially hard to configure, but trust me on this one, give TipTac a shot
14:39.52Viper0000how do i get modality to show/hide an action bar with a hotkey
14:39.53Slaymanhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7593-TipTac.html
14:39.59Anadalemitch0: strange, checkout went without errors, but merge still doesn't work :-(
14:40.42FritzI just hate how you worded 'special needs'.. though this does look decent, I like how there's a heath percent on the center of the health bar on the tooltip..
14:41.02mitch0anadale: hm... want me to commit the merged stuff?
14:41.03FritzIs there an option to remove the border on tiptac?
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14:41.09Gngskyes
14:41.28Anadalemitch0: Please, if you can
14:41.51mitch0I'll commit with a temp commit message then, ok?
14:42.18AnadaleCan you take commit message from last revision on branch please?
14:43.41FritzWhy is there a background texture that's black named Moo?
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14:44.49Slaymanpossibly "kuhflecke", don't know the engl term
14:44.53CIA-1003mitchell * r67891 10UnderHood/ (18 files in 5 dirs):
14:44.53CIA-10UnderHood:
14:44.53CIA-10- Bar styles now support zones
14:44.53CIA-10- Added mapping support between providers and zones
14:44.53CIA-10- Casting bar functionality moved to provider
14:44.54CIA-10- Added Energy/Mana Ticker provider
14:44.56CIA-10- Several performance optimizations
14:45.09mitch0anadale: is that ok?
14:45.14Anadalemitch0: Thank you very much
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14:51.25keissis there an addon that would auto-reply predefined answers depending on keywords/regexps ? like ... kara|pug -> "no"
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14:57.21FritzMy only complaint about tiptac so far is there's no option to turn off non-unit tooltipts
14:58.33SlaymanFritz: told ya, it's quite a good replacement für TinyTip isn't it
14:59.29FritzErm. That's odd, a tooltip got stuck to my cursor.
14:59.39FritzAnd it wouldn't go away until I moused over something else
15:00.35Dark_Elfya sure thats not pitbull doing that?
15:00.37Slaymanhappens in cowtip all the time
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15:02.04FritzHmm, that's irritating, the health bar fades with the background.
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15:06.30KemayoGngsk: Pong?
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15:07.33GngskKemayo, had a couple questions/requests about bankstack
15:08.21Gngskwas wondering why there's no profiles and if you can make it possible to ignore a whole bag
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15:08.33Gngskwithout ignore each individual slot
15:09.37CIA-1003chexsum * r67892 10KillingSpree/KillingSpree.lua:
15:09.37CIA-10KillingSpree:
15:09.37CIA-10- Fixed headshot spam bug
15:10.24chexsum#table only works for consecutively numbered keys huh ?
15:10.50ValdainHi, I'm new to Ace and I have a question about catching COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED events.  In a test mod I made with Ace2 I can see the events just fine.  When I convert it to use Ace3, I notice that the eventtype and spell names are numbers (IDs?) instead of the strings like SPELL_AURA_APPLIED
15:11.01KemayoGngsk: No profiles because I've never needed them, and thus had no motivation to implement them.  And it's not possible right now to ignore a whole bag, but I could add that.
15:11.25CIA-1003ananhaid * r67893 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
15:11.25CIA-10Cartographer:
15:11.26CIA-10- zhCN update.
15:11.57CIA-1003gagorian * r67894 10DrDamage/Caster.lua:
15:11.57CIA-10DrDamage:
15:11.57CIA-10- Altered cast time adjustment a bit
15:11.58GngskKemayo, profiles and the bag ignore would let me forget about mrplow forever. reason I ask for profiles is because I like to ignore different bags on my main and bank toons
15:12.47sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: change healer mode so it prefers oRA2 MT targets but if there are none given takes blizz MT targets? :P
15:13.07KemayoGngsk: I'll add it to my to-do list, for next time I feel like working on it.
15:13.34GngskKemayo, much appreciated
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15:18.48Lemming2Kis there a way to find out wich unit id a raidmember has when you have his name?
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15:20.39GngskLemming2K, loop through the raid roster checking if UnitName('raid'..i) == name
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15:21.15mitch0I think he means GUID
15:21.27mitch0not raid index
15:21.38Gngskuhm, that's not what he said
15:21.55mitch0he said "unit id"
15:21.55Lemming2Kthanks Gngsk
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15:22.02Lemming2Kthat was it :D
15:22.15mitch0ok, I misunderstood then :)
15:22.17Gngsknp
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15:25.02vithosAntiarc: i just got 2.7k threat by misdirecting 3 distracting shots on my pet and doing nothing else
15:25.18vithosr67873
15:26.11nevcairielmaybe it is 2.7k threat? *shrug
15:26.15nevcairieloh wait
15:26.17nevcairieli misread
15:26.20nevcairielshuts up
15:26.53NivFreakHas anyone else seen weird aggro issues with leo?
15:27.27NivFreakWe had our lock time a CoD perfectly after the demon phase transition, be 10-25K threat above the raid, and have the demon randomly target melee
15:27.40NivFreakto the point where, I ran in, dropped one SS
15:27.45NivFreakand he aggro'd me
15:28.01durcynwhat's your warlock's spec
15:28.05NivFreakafter the lock had CoD go off, and half a dozen seering pains
15:28.21durcyndoes he have, say, 40 points in destruction
15:28.27NivFreakof course
15:28.30NivFreakhe always does
15:28.33durcyninteresting, interesting
15:28.36NivFreakand yes, he has nether protection
15:28.41durcynand how many of those include nether prote.. there you go
15:28.42NivFreakand it's never been a problem
15:28.49durcynif you immune the shit, it will retarget
15:28.54NivFreakthis isn't our first leo kill or anything
15:29.00durcynif you're still immune on the next cast
15:29.02NivFreakand let me be clear, he never GOT aggro
15:29.37NivFreakthis was the 2nd of our 3 attempts
15:29.39NivFreakand we never had this issue without it
15:29.42NivFreaker
15:29.44NivFreakoutside of it
15:30.00durcyni assume you're using omen
15:30.09NivFreakof course
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15:30.31durcynare you seeing clears after p2->p1 transitions?
15:30.35NivFreakI also use spygnome to make sure we're all in sync with the latest version
15:30.41NivFreakyea, it's clearing
15:30.50NivFreak(thank god)
15:30.57NivFreakSunday it didn't
15:31.01NivFreakmade leo a bit of a PITA
15:31.02chexsumguid = UnitGUID("unit")
15:31.45nevcairielNivFreak: wait, its not a omen issue but a real game aggro issue you're talking about, right?
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15:31.55NivFreaknevcairiel: it seems so
15:32.05NivFreakthreat meter matched whay my eyes saw
15:32.13nevcairieli was confused on that part when durcyn started to talk about omen :P
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15:32.54NivFreakWW -> back on me (MT) -> demon phase instantly -> CoD goes boom -> seering pain spam == random melee targeting
15:33.00NivFreakoh
15:33.08NivFreakI forgot to mention the best part
15:33.14NivFreakhe was targeting melee at RANGE
15:33.15NivFreakhehe
15:33.18NivFreaknone of them were in
15:33.28nevcairieland that happend multiple times?
15:33.46NivFreaknope
15:33.49nevcairieli suggest you file a bug report with blizz
15:33.51NivFreakjust one transition
15:34.01NivFreakyea, I probably will
15:34.04CIA-1003elsia * r67895 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua zonefilters.lua):
15:34.04CIA-10Recount:
15:34.04CIA-10- Added revision keywords.
15:34.05Grumyup seems like a blizz mistake :)
15:34.05NivFreakI had another bug happen
15:34.12NivFreakI jumped into the water to tank lurker
15:34.16NivFreakand sunk to the floor
15:34.23NivFreakthat's a first as well...
15:34.35nevcairieltoo much plate gear
15:34.39NivFreakseems like thier new submerge as you enter water feature is a bit overkill
15:34.40NivFreak;)
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15:36.21ZhinjioG'morning, NivFreak
15:36.40MegalonFound a bug in the bigwigs module for Karazhan / Big Bad Wolf
15:37.14CIA-1003ananhaid * r67896 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua:
15:37.14CIA-10BigWigs:
15:37.14CIA-10- zhCN update.
15:37.43Funkeh`Megalon, that's, uh, descriptive
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15:37.53MegalonFunkeh`: ah sry yea
15:38.04Megalontanking, so not so good at tabbing atm
15:38.06Megalonwell
15:38.15Megaloneveryone getting the red riding hood debuff
15:38.26Megalonis whispering me, the mt, that i'm it now
15:38.37chdstRun away, little girl!
15:38.45chdst...sorry. Couldn't help myself :(
15:38.56sacarascturns into a gnome and runs away
15:40.01Megalonwell, everyone who got the debuff and is using bigwigs
15:42.16NivFreakZhinjio: morning
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15:49.01mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8606-2.0.2.html
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15:50.05hypetechWhat happened with Prat?
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15:53.46CIA-1003kurax * r67897 10LibBabble-Faction-3.0/: Remote folder create
15:55.12Xinhuanerr faction?
15:55.43CIA-1003elsia * r67898 10Recount/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
15:55.43CIA-10Recount:
15:55.43CIA-10- Fixed up locale keys to fixed typo.
15:55.54KuraxYeah..I need this for AtlasLoot
15:57.09Wogroipl_why do Omen and Threat-2.0 use 3 MB memory in raid?
15:57.35dylanmBecause it's tracking a shitton of data.
15:58.04Wogroipl_could it be the cause of a massive fps loss?
15:58.23CIA-1003kurax * r67899 10LibBabble-Faction-3.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): LibBabble-Faction-3.0: Initial commit, copied from 2.2
15:58.26chiperonly if you've got very little memory
15:58.32SroshWhy don't you try it out?
15:58.33Wogroipl_I had 7 fps in MH last night, where I had 40 pre 2.4
15:58.38dylanm3 MB is not going to do it.
15:59.01chiperheh, I'd blame that on blizzard, not the addons
15:59.15chiperI've also noticed an FPS drop, I think it's the new combat log
15:59.27Wogroipl_yeah could be the new combat log as well I guess
15:59.52Wogroipl_aight I blame it opn Blizz then ;)
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16:03.30CIA-1003kurax * r67900 10LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0/: Remote folder create
16:03.38Stanzillaoh noes
16:04.37durcynKurax: can you make atlasloot less, uh, ugly while you're at it >_>
16:04.58Kuraxdurcyn: Like?
16:05.13SunTsuI don't mind if it's ugly, I would appreciate if it was working ;)
16:05.57KuraxI dont get it, isn't it working?
16:06.01hypetechAtlasLoots seems to be working fine for me other than I can't compare from it anymore
16:06.17durcynwell, i guess it's more of an Atlas lameness than AL, but I'd kill people for instance maps inlined into WorldMap Frame a la Carto
16:06.25durcynand thusly loot inlined into that
16:06.31SunTsuKurax: Not for me. I can't select any category from it
16:06.32hypetechAnd for whatever reason ItemLevelDKP won't show it's section of the tooltip from AtlasLoot, but it's always been like that
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16:06.50durcynSunTsu: do you have a loot module of any sort loaded?
16:07.09SunTsudurcyn: All of them. I don't even get any menu at all
16:07.50KuraxSunTsu: Did you get AL from wowace?
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16:08.46SunTsuKurax: Yes, of course, 5 minutes ago I was checking if atlasloot.net has a newer version, which it hasn't
16:09.54KuraxSunTsu: In fact atlasloot.net is not the site for publishing, you can check wowinterface or curse for a stable version
16:10.54Funkeh`Megalon, and the error was?
16:11.31hypetechWhat lib is messed up right now? I've gotten 700+ errors since I logged in after this morning's update
16:11.51sag_ich_nichthypetech update again
16:11.53sag_ich_nichtnub
16:11.56hypetech:p
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16:12.25SunTsuKurax: I don#t see any difference between the version numbers on wowace.com, curse and atlasloot.net. It's all the very same version I use
16:12.34SunTsus/#/'/
16:12.35Kuraxhypetech: There have some known issues for tooltips, and Daviesh is working on it
16:13.05hypetechcool
16:13.15hypetechI can't imagine doing these new dailys and not being a mage
16:15.28SunTsuI love the new dailies. 19 dailies usually take under 2 hours to complete
16:16.31KuraxSunTsu: For once a while AtlasLoot with pub a stable version on curse, the one on wowace is for development which means unstable, buggy or missing data etc, they are different
16:16.42Kuraxs/with/will/
16:17.28SunTsuKurax: OK, I'll get the curse one and test it as soon as I am home. Anyway, thanks
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16:18.31KuraxSubTsu: No problem =p
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16:22.15keiss~seen Elsia
16:22.19purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A25221.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 22m 26s ago, saying: 'morning'.
16:23.42Silverstormhypetech: it's really not too bad with an epic mount...for the most part, porting doesn't really help
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16:25.00CIA-1003ckknight * r67901 10Chinchilla/Expander/Expander.lua:
16:25.00CIA-10Chinchilla_Expander - fix issues when logging in in combat
16:25.00CIA-10CHIN-68
16:26.00SunTsuSilverstorm: True, what helps, too, is doing Skettis dailies, so you can use their transport to Ogri'la, from there I normally do my dailies, fly over to Area52, down south to Kazzak and finally return to Shatt
16:27.05SilverstormI generally do Nagrand -> Skettis -> Hellfire -> BEM -> Area 52 -> port Shatt, port QD, then the last daily on QD is a port back to Shatt
16:27.22QuantumDeltaporting to me!?
16:27.33Silverstorms/QD/IoQD/
16:27.43chexsumwhat is dailies
16:27.55SunTsuchexsum: Daily quests
16:28.00chexsumim too busy illing dranei and gnomes to know whats happening
16:28.05SunTsuchexsum: Source of lots of money ;)
16:28.09chexsums/illing/killing
16:28.21chexsumbleh @ money
16:28.29chexsumthats for rich people
16:28.44mykxI take it you don't raid or pve much then
16:28.56chexsumwhat is raid and pve
16:28.58chexsum:P
16:29.00SunTsuchexsum: Hey, I'm leveling 4 alts, all in levels 64-66, so they all reach 70 very near and they all want a flying mount.
16:29.12mykxk so you are in a wow addon channel but don't know anything about the game? hrm yeah got ya
16:29.15chexsummy mains grounded
16:29.16SunTsuSo I really need gold ;)
16:29.30chexsumpvp priest
16:29.51chexsumim not into dragon slaying :\
16:29.58Fisker-:o ckknight
16:30.06Fisker-there's a shaman called chinchilla on my server
16:31.03Gngskalert the press
16:31.20Fisker-garrison the building
16:31.29Fisker-i just thought it was funny :(
16:31.36Gngsksame
16:32.11ckknighthehe
16:32.36SunTsuchexsum: You may know the battleground daily ;)
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16:34.39ZhinjioG'morning, ckk
16:34.58ckknightmorning, Zhinjio
16:35.01ckknighthow are you today?
16:35.21Zhinjiojust finished dailies on 2 toons. Jumping back on my test toon to keep working on my UI
16:35.32ZhinjioI need to figure out what to do with my castbars
16:35.32ckknight~seen Nandini
16:35.34purlnandini <n=Nandini@66.193.90.159> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 45m 12s ago, saying: 'spell 44185 is in the "witch" theme too'.
16:35.38aestilhey everybody [simpsons doctor guy voice]
16:35.45ckknightHi, Dr. Nick
16:35.53CIA-1003xinhuan * r67902 10Postal/Modules/Express.lua: Postal: - Convert to using embedded textures in fontstrings, instead of tooltip:AddTexture() so that we can have 12 icons instead of a tooltip's maximum of 10.
16:35.54aestili figured ckk would know it.
16:35.56nevcairielHi Everybody!
16:36.00ckknighthey nevcairiel
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16:36.19SunTsuI can't wait for all my chars to be 70, so all can do the dailies. Epic flying mounts for everybody ;)
16:36.34aestili don't have time to do dailies on one of my characters.
16:36.40aestili haven't even been up to sunwell yet.
16:36.47aestilalso why i have no epic flyer
16:36.50nevcairieli do it on one char for the reputation
16:37.08ZhinjioI started working with eepanels for the first time yesterday
16:37.16Xinhuanso i tried to addfriend Chinchilla
16:37.18Xinhuanand it worked
16:37.21SunTsuI do it irregularly with my main. Just when I have about 2 hours to waste ;)
16:37.24Xinhuanso apparently the name has been taken on my server
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16:39.57kenlyricSunTsu: odd, i run out of interest before I run out of dailies
16:40.06vithosdid anyone manage to stop the new combatlog from loading?
16:40.08Zhinjiois it possible in Quartz to get a sort of "testbar" for each thing so you can drag them around and stuff?
16:40.19kenlyricZhinjio: just unlock them
16:40.42SunTsukenlyric: That happens to me with the netherwing ones, now that I have the mount
16:41.02SilverstormSunTsu: that's why I'm doing them...my druid alt needs epic flight form, and 14-15 dailies is almost 200g/dday
16:42.10odtis there a way to restore from waubackups xml file automatically?
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16:42.47kenlyricnope
16:42.58odtk, useful
16:43.11kenlyricfeature-in-progress when development stopped :)
16:43.15Kalrothjesus, updated my addons and now everything is broken
16:43.24Kalrothdid anyone change a major lib ~11 hours ago? ;)
16:43.24odtill just grep the http's and wget i guess
16:43.26SunTsuI am very impatient. I need my alts to have epic flying mounts. Else I'd be very unhappy
16:43.59GngskKalroth, yep AceConsole-2.0, change was reverted not too long after everything broke
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16:44.32Kalroththe reverted change is on the site yet?
16:44.45Gngskyea
16:44.55Kalroth@#¤! WAU then
16:44.57Gngsklike you said, this was about 12 hours ago
16:45.05KalrothI'm getting 100+ errors every second
16:45.15KalrothBugGrabber is on cooldown
16:45.40kenlyricreinstall all addons
16:46.01KalrothI'll try that
16:46.37CIA-1003kurax * r67903 10LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0: Initial commit, copied from 2.2
16:46.38hypetechThere's definitely still an issue, most of my ace mods are broke
16:46.45hypetechI just did reinstall all a second ago as well
16:46.47KalrothLikewise
16:46.48hypetechno help
16:47.16KalrothYup, I'm still fucked
16:47.18Gngskare you guys running off mirrors that are behind or something?
16:47.21KalrothNo
16:47.24KalrothI'm using WUA
16:47.34Kalrotherr, WAU
16:47.34Zhinjiocan you not anchor the player castbar?
16:47.36kenlyricembedded libs?
16:47.43hypetechyes
16:47.50Kalrothyup
16:47.55hypetechand I'm using WAU also
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16:48.26KalrothLibSharedMedia, CooldownCount, Omen and xx number of other addons
16:48.28KalrothPrat too
16:49.10KalrothRecount, sct, Threat-2.0, TankPoints, etc
16:49.13KalrothAll in BugSack
16:49.23nevcairielThreat-2.0 doesnt even use AceConsole-2.0
16:49.23AeyanThat sounds like a fun error
16:49.27nevcairielunpossible
16:49.41kenlyricwhich lib is broken?
16:49.43SunTsuGreat, sounds like I don't want to run JWU anytime soon ;)
16:49.45KalrothWell I got 103 errors in the log and BugGrabber refuses to list more
16:49.54nevcairielwhats the error?
16:50.02hypetechya I had 700+ errors before I relogged
16:50.03Gngsknevcairiel, it's prolly not aceconsole, since he asked about 11 hours ago I thought he was running on a mirror
16:50.04KalrothWhich one of them? :)
16:50.21nevcairielGngsk: i dont see any other breaking changes :P
16:50.24Kalrothhell, I'm getting errors in non-ace addons too
16:50.42KalrothIt's some event library
16:50.52Kuraxck broke Ace2 today and been reverted
16:50.52Gngsknevcairiel, is it unpossible to show/hide a secureactionbutton while in combat without causing taint?
16:51.02kenlyricwau used to have that problem where a library upgrade only wouldn't get downloaded if you ran embedded, but that was fixed, so I don't know what could still cause it.
16:51.08StanzillaUNPOSSIBLE!
16:51.09nevcairielGngsk: you can when you use the stateheader showstates :P
16:51.12KalrothKurax: Well then a new error has been introduced
16:51.26Kalroth[2008/04/03 18:41:37-67-x1]: Omen\Media.lua:6: attempt to call method 'Register' (a nil value)
16:51.32Kalroth[2008/04/03 18:41:37-67-x1]: Omen\Config.lua:7: attempt to call method 'List' (a nil value)
16:51.35Kalrothetc. etc.
16:51.36Gngsknevcairiel, where to find examples?
16:51.44Gngsksecurestateheader.lua?
16:51.48Kalroth[2008/04/03 18:41:39-67-x1]: Prat-2.0 67886.66492\Prat.lua:565: attempt to index field 'MediaType' (a nil value)
16:52.07KalrothI'd guess that it's AceEvent that's fucking up
16:52.19KuraxKalroth: That's not Ace2 errors since both Omen and Prat are not using Ace2 but Ace3
16:52.44KuraxNo one change Ace3 recently I think
16:52.58KalrothI'm not saying it's Ace2 errors, I'm just saying whatever is checked in manages to ruin both ace and non-ace addons
16:53.34nevcairieli dont see any of the core libraries change
16:53.37nevcairieland fisheye is broken
16:54.05KuraxKalroth: Probably there are some problems with your addons' structure, like externals are missing etc
16:54.06Athoutry to /rl, I had errors on login too and they vanished after a reloadui, for some reason
16:54.13KalrothI did a full reinstall
16:54.25EvilJohn-clean your saved vars?
16:54.38KalrothAthou: I would, but I can't access my text bar
16:55.47hypetechthe majority of the errors refer to AceEvent-2.0
16:56.10KalrothYup and I'm getting event errors in non-Ace addons as well, so I'm guessing that's the one
16:56.19nevcairielnothing changed in there
16:56.36hypetechI don't have many non-ace addons, so I can't confirm that
16:56.46hypetechI think Outfitter is the only non-ace I use
16:56.50hypetechand rMiniMap
16:56.55hypetechthose both work
16:57.49Kalrothwhat about SharedMediaLib, anything changed there?
16:58.05hypetechya Pitbull works, but it lost my textures
16:58.08Kalroth[2008/04/03 18:56:49-70-x1]: LibSharedMedia-3.0\LibSharedMedia-3.0.lua:37: Cannot find a library instance of "CallbackHandler-1.0".
16:58.09KalrothFuBar-60201\libs\LibStub\LibStub.lua:23: in function `GetLibrary'
16:58.09KalrothLibSharedMedia-3.0\LibSharedMedia-3.0.lua:37: in main chunk
16:58.19kenlyrichmmm, omen doesn't save its window position in the SV
16:58.21kenlyricnaughty omen
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17:00.02Kalrothwow
17:00.07Kalrothfrom FrameXML.log
17:00.10Kalroth4/3 18:56:56.859  Error loading Interface\AddOns\Tankalyze\libs\AceDebug-2.0\AceDebug-2.0.lua
17:00.10Kalroth4/3 18:56:56.859  Error loading Interface\AddOns\Tankalyze\libs\AceHook-2.1\AceHook-2.1.lua
17:00.15Kalroth4/3 18:57:02.343  Error loading Interface\AddOns\FuBar_BattlegroundFu\lib\Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua
17:00.15Kalroth4/3 18:57:02.343  Error loading Interface\AddOns\FuBar_BattlegroundFu\lib\Ace2\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua
17:00.16Kalrothetc.
17:00.23nevcairielthats just because they donte xist
17:00.25nevcairiel*exist
17:00.30KalrothOh okay
17:00.33nevcairielbecause WAU cleaned them out
17:00.47Fisker-hmm
17:00.56dylanmIf your updater doesn't delete the entries in the embeds.xml/libs.xml/toc/whatever it tries to load them and it can't, which is fine.
17:00.56Fisker-for some reason omen doesn't have ace3 as externals anymore
17:01.00Fisker-anyone know why?
17:01.21nevcairielFisker-: it still does
17:01.34Kalroththere's no embeds.xml in my Omen folder, is that on purpose?
17:01.42nevcairielnot sure
17:01.44nevcairielbut it still works
17:01.50Fisker-hmm
17:01.57Fisker-someone said the zip generated had no ace3 in it
17:02.19dylanmAnt isn't using an xml. It's all in the toc.
17:02.38Fisker-man
17:02.43Fisker-auctioneer is doing a lot of toc spam
17:02.52Fisker-toc spam? lol
17:02.53Fisker-addon spam
17:03.32Fisker-no more auctioneer for me
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17:03.50dylanmsvn propget svn:externals http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/Libs
17:03.53dylanmLooks fine to me.
17:04.18sacarascOmen died for me after updating it recently ;(
17:04.20chiperauctioneer is using data channels?  for what?  it doesnt need to talk to anyone else
17:04.41Zhinjioactually, it does now
17:04.47Fisker-actually it uses comm for price stats
17:04.54Zhinjiofor pricechecks, it compares prices betwqeen all running copies
17:04.55Zhinjioeg
17:05.17chiperok, in principle that's cool, but oy..
17:05.32CIA-1003jncl * r67904 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skin GuildBankUI if loaded by another Addon
17:06.32Fisker-anyone know what "\229^\" is on addonspam_fu?
17:07.24kenlyricI dunno, I just discoverd batch posting in auctioneer, so I think I want to have its baby
17:07.48Fisker-didn't it always have that?
17:07.49odtreinstalling did nothing to fix thigs idd, CallbackHandler-1.0 ie is missing
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17:08.00chiperwtf is batch processing for?
17:08.15chiperI see the button, but when I click it I'm told I need a modifier key or something
17:08.15Snagokenlyric: What do batch posting do? I've never dared click it :P
17:08.20kenlyricchiper: anything with batch processing selected will get sold
17:08.21KalrothIt might be CooldownCount
17:08.40kenlyricyou have to select it for each item, but once you do, bam, instant time savings
17:08.55kenlyricAlt-click to refresh the values, and then alt-shift-ctrl-click to post.
17:09.16chiperand it retains that data so that every time you come back you can quick sell?
17:09.26kenlyricyup
17:09.31Fisker-what addon can i use for money display?
17:09.39Fisker-still MoneyFu?
17:09.41odtKalroth: thanks!
17:09.46kenlyricand once it's done batch posting, I see what's left in my bags and enable batch posting on those
17:09.47odtcooldowncount is what broke everything
17:09.47ZhinjioFisker-: I switched to Auditor.
17:09.49KalrothYup, it's definitely cooldowncount
17:09.52Zhinjiobecause I love money stats
17:09.56chipercool.  I dont trust auctioneer enough to use that, but still cool
17:10.01Kalrothit's using LibSharedMedia-3.0 and it's not doing it right :)
17:10.09chiperFisker-: I'm still using MoneyFu, yeah
17:10.16kenlyricyou use cooldowncount?
17:10.21kenlyricdidn't that break six months ago?
17:10.29KalrothApparently it was updated last night
17:10.37kenlyricyeah
17:10.41kenlyricit gets updated now and then
17:10.42Kalrothwhat should I use instead?
17:10.46kenlyricbut they don't ever fix the pet bars
17:10.49kenlyricOmniCC
17:10.59KalrothDanke
17:11.15kenlyricI gotta go see what they changed :)
17:11.17KalrothD'oh, it's not on ace?
17:11.22kenlyricno
17:11.30Kalrothanything on wowace then? ;)
17:11.33kenlyricand quit yer bitchin
17:11.35kenlyricno
17:11.39Kalrothliar
17:11.43Kalrothdirty liar!
17:11.50kenlyricmake this your friend: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/filecpl.php?action=favorite
17:11.58sb_is it possible to change loot visbility in raids? :/ it really sucks if 20 run to each mob... *sigh*
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17:12.19MikkSo erm is anyone good enough with PeriodicTable's data to know if it's possible to go from a recipe itemid to the resulting itemid?
17:12.22kenlyricis it CooldownCount2?
17:12.25iKONIs the period character suppose show up as a small square in Pitbull/BullDog?
17:12.37MikkI checked RecipeLinks but that's spellid -> resulting itemid
17:12.39kenlyricoh wait, fish is broken someone said
17:12.48Mikkkenlyric: just restarted
17:13.55kenlyric- no need for LibStub in embeds
17:15.13hypetechI don't think it's ever broken >.>
17:15.22hypetechcooldown count that is
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17:15.26kenlyricyes
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17:15.32kenlyricit broke pet bars a long time ago
17:15.38hypetechhmm
17:15.41kenlyricthe solution: turn off pet bars
17:15.53hypetechI've never had it not work on my hunter twink
17:16.38kenlyricthat's pretty odd since local blacklist = { "TargetFrame", "PetAction" }
17:16.55Arzach-DB-EUFunkydude ?
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17:19.45kenlyrichttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/CooldownCount/CooldownCount.lua?r1=55826&r2=67828
17:20.41Fisker-btw
17:21.38Fisker-did he remove the aoe modules and stuff_
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17:23.18Fisker-ah
17:23.18CIA-1003kurax * r67905 10AtlasLoot/ (16 files in 6 dirs):
17:23.18CIA-10AtlasLoot:
17:23.18CIA-10- Upgrade Babble-Faction/Tradeskill to 3.0, no longer need Babble-2.2
17:23.23Fisker-it helps to put omen out of standby >D
17:23.24Fisker-:D
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17:29.32odtso what to use instead of cooldowncount?
17:29.46odtto get every item and spell icon display it's cd
17:31.24CIA-1003kurax * r67906 10LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0/ (. LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0.toc LibStub/): LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0: Update TOC and set properties
17:31.31_raneodt: display where?
17:31.34_ranein the action bars?
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17:34.25odtaye
17:34.27odtand in the bag
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17:35.29evlhttp://www.nkotb.com/
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17:37.33CIA-1003kergoth * r67907 10NShakedown/Addons/BigWigs.lua: NShakedown: BigWigs support: make the message color red instead of black, so you can actually see the damn things.
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17:40.57CIA-1003athou * r67908 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/ (FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua localization.lua):
17:40.57CIA-10FuBar_CraftTimersFu:
17:40.57CIA-10- added the long-awaited option to track the first finishing cooldown
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17:45.08ckknightNandini: ping
17:47.00CIA-1003apoco * r67909 10RBM/CooldownWatch/CooldownWatch.lua:
17:47.00CIA-10RBM:
17:47.00CIA-10CooldownWatch- Bug Fix with last nights commit.
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17:49.14CIA-1003athou * r67910 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua:
17:49.14CIA-10FuBar_CraftTimersFu:
17:49.14CIA-10- change the monitored cooldown to the next cooldown in line when using the option to track the first finishing cooldown and that cooldown becomes ready
17:49.28CIA-1003kergoth * r67911 10NShakedown/StandardUI.lua: NShakedown: make the test messages for the RaidWarning frame white instead of black.
17:50.30CIA-1003kergoth * r67912 10NShakedown/Addons/WitchHunt.lua: NShakedown: Fix the WitchHunt support since Ammo changed the message arguments to include the spell id.
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17:53.29Funkeh`Arzach-DB-EU, yes?
17:55.20Funkeh`Arzach-DB-EU, ping, you asked for me?
17:55.32AethenelleDoes WoWAce have a policy against compilations? I'm thinking of creating one with the same philosophies behind MazzleUI only fairly open and coded in a more abstract manner
17:56.05Funkeh`Aethenelle, you can make all he complilations you want, you won't be allowed them on the svn though.
17:56.32Zeksiesvn isn't for storing addons, it's a development aiding platform
17:57.09AethenelleFunkeh`: That would be the policy I expected to see... I honestly wasn't sure how it would have been acomplished...
17:58.03AethenelleZeksie: I know what svn is for ;) Being able to work on it and store the code elsewhere was the plan...
17:58.47AethenelleFunkeh`: What about using the svn for the core code? (the stuff I'm writing to configure the rest of the comp)
17:59.32Funkeh`Aens|Superiority, If it's a sepaate addon like Aethenelle_Config then sure
17:59.42Funkeh`uh
17:59.49Funkeh`&^%*& tab complet
17:59.55Aethenellelol
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18:00.45hypetechanybody figure out what the lib issues was? had to drive in to work
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18:01.35kenlyricdo you use cooldowncount?
18:02.26Funkeh`omg, milestone
18:02.29kenlyricthe other guy with a similar problem found the problem was ColldownCount
18:02.35Funkeh`eset updated to antivirus database 3000
18:02.51kenlyricwhat?
18:03.12kenlyricAntivirus Experts Agree: ESET is the "top choice!"
18:03.14TheOther|Away<3 eset :D
18:03.19kenlyricnotice top choice in quotes...
18:03.28kenlyric100% pure "beef"
18:03.31Funkeh`kenlyric, if you use an eset product you probably got a small popup about now saying it updated t databas 3000
18:03.54nevcairielSaroz: can has spell-based range check back? the blizz api isnt 40y .. or not accurate :(
18:04.06Ordogunfair! my client tells me "up to date" with version 2999 ! conspiracy!
18:04.20Funkeh`Ordog, ;p
18:04.22AethenelleFunkeh`: still leaves initial distribution issues but I think they are quite minor... Does WAU or JWU pull opt deps? No right? I'll still need a name...
18:04.31Ordogoh do you got those nifty version 3 maybe?
18:04.42Ordogwith teh symantec-like gui?
18:04.54Aethenelleoh yeah... Snak is getting really annoying... anyone know a good IRC client for OSX?
18:04.57Funkeh`Aethenelle, I think they both do, they pull Xembeds though
18:05.09kenlyricAethenelle: WAU will pull x-embeds, not OptDeps
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18:06.30what-Khi all i have a question the addon omen doesnt work anymore at me :( can someone help me ?
18:07.06Fisker-your mother
18:07.17what-Kthx Fisker-
18:07.22hypetechkenlyric: yes
18:07.41AethenelleI knew they both pull embeds but that would be against the no comp rule... bad idea anyway... it should be setup in a manner that doesn't need to worry about load order....
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18:07.46charonwhat-K: have you verified that you all (meaning you and your entire party/raid) run the newest version?
18:08.02kenlyrichypetech: there was an upgrade to LibSharedMedia-3.0 last night, we think the error happened then.
18:08.06Aethenellewhat-K: have you updated your Omen? they've been pushing updates frequently....
18:08.07kenlyricerrr, I
18:08.10what-Kits the newest version and then i try to open it i get this error
18:08.32what-KDate: 2008-04-03 20:08:10
18:08.34what-KID: 63
18:08.36what-KError occured in: Global
18:08.38what-KCount: 1
18:08.40what-KMessage: ..\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua line 154:
18:08.42what-Kattempt to index field 'Anchor' (a nil value)
18:08.44what-KDebug:
18:08.46what-K[C]: ?
18:08.48what-KOmen\Omen.lua:154: Toggle()
18:08.50what-KOmen\Omen.lua:68: OnFuBarClick()
18:08.52what-K...n\Libs\LibFuBarPlugin-3.0\LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0.lua:1304: oclick()
18:08.54what-KMBB\MBB.lua:442:
18:09.01what-Kso thats all
18:09.01hypetechmy VolM skin just randomly disappeared from my CyCircled o.0 I didn't even change anything
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18:09.40hypetechactually that's a lie. I changed my bar texture in bigwigs and pitubll
18:09.42hypetechpitbull
18:10.22Funkeh`getting fed up of this lsm2 lsm3 crap
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18:10.47CIA-1003ckknight * r67913 10LibRockConsole-1.0/LibRockConsole-1.0.lua: LibRockConsole-1.0 - make sure not to show reserved words as keys in :PrintLiteral, e.g. { nil = blah } should be { ["nil"] = blah }
18:11.31GrumAnyone playing an affliction lock @ t6-farm level? :)
18:13.52Grumor just t6 ... and not farm :P
18:14.02Grumaww cmon someone has to play that =D
18:14.22hypetechWe have 2 in our guild, does that help?
18:14.39Grumi want to know stuff about dps cycles or spell preferences
18:14.49Grumgf specced from demo -> afflic
18:15.12Stanzillashadowbolt shadowbolt...
18:15.22hypetechnot for affliction
18:15.47PrimerI played afflic for a long time, but I'm nowhere near T6
18:15.52hypetechyou basically just want to refresh dots as needed and fill empty time with sbolt
18:16.00Primeryup
18:16.48hypetechif she's aff, she'll most likely be cursing malediction CoS
18:16.53AethenelleI'm guessing you want more of a spell priority than cycle...
18:17.11Primerhopefully another lock that's DS/SF is handling CoS
18:17.17Primerthat way you can stick with CoA
18:17.29AethenelleHighest priority is highest dps... fill from there...
18:17.32hypetechwell if you have malediction, it's a bigger boost to the raid for you do it
18:17.40Primertrue
18:17.52Aethenelledon't forget to correct for SPs if you have em...
18:17.58Primerbut I didn't have that in my spec...but I had a hybrid spec for pvp
18:18.00ZhinjioI need a new texture idea for my UI
18:18.07hypetechmalediction is really the only reason to be affliction at that level of content
18:18.11ZhinjioI'm tired of the dark marbled / rusted metal sort of look.
18:18.27Zhinjiosomething wow-related, maybe
18:19.37hypetechJust Curse-UA-Corruption-Sbolt until a dot needs refreshing
18:20.00hypetechand siphon life maybe?
18:20.03hypetechnot sure on that
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18:21.09hypetechGrum: http://elitistjerks.com/f40/t10414-warlock_affliction_cast-rotation/
18:21.13Grumthankjs
18:21.16Primeras afflict I'd always go UA-Immolate-Corruption-CoA-Siphon Life, sb, sb, sb
18:21.21Grumfrom mana per dmg
18:21.23Primerbut I wasn't malediction spec'd
18:21.32Grumyou get to: UA -> Corr -> Immo -> SL
18:21.54hypetechI just looked at one of our Aff locks WWS from last night and I don't see immolate :-\
18:22.27PrimerDP?
18:22.37Primerform that post...
18:22.39Primerbrain fart
18:22.43Primerfrom, even
18:22.50PrimerDouble Penetration?
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18:23.42CIA-1003elsia * r67914 10Recount/LazySync.lua:
18:23.42CIA-10Recount:
18:23.42CIA-10- Temp fix for version sync nil error.
18:23.48ulicI'd go with probably Dark Pact
18:24.00Primerahhh yes
18:24.01Primerthanks
18:24.08PrimerI miss DP as SL/SL
18:24.13ulicunless you are making a porno, then go with your guess.
18:24.18Primernot liking SL/SL much, but I'm committed to pvp now
18:24.37Primeralso miss instacast Howl
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18:25.59lhunathTo install an ace addon, do you just extract it in Interface/AddOns or is this process different for a select few addons?
18:26.26lhunathI've heard something about BigWigs and Cartographer etc perhaps requiring special treatment
18:26.33ulicthat SHOULD work for all addons.
18:26.34charonwhat-K: can you check if there were any errors _before_ that one? (and btw use http://ace.pastey.net to save everyone's nerves)
18:26.54ulicsome addones have .bat or .sh files in them, that move parts out of their folders to modularize themselves.
18:27.04lhunathoh.
18:27.08lhunathlets see.
18:27.15ulicthe two you listed I know do that
18:27.24pastamancerrunning those bat or sh scripts is usually optional though
18:27.38ulicbasically it makes like 10 cart_something folders
18:27.54ulicthat way you can turn parts off that you might not want to use, and cut down on resource usage.
18:28.05lhunathah, that makes sense.
18:28.14lhunathpretty dumb that it's in a bash script.
18:28.25pastamancernot at all
18:28.39ulicwell for mac users, windows uses the .bat
18:28.40lhunathquite - I can't parse that with my updater.
18:29.03lhunatha standardized xml format would be nice.
18:29.29lhunathlike the way the deps and optionaldeps are set etc.
18:29.31ulic.wau file is used for something with that, not sure how it works though.
18:29.38pastamancer.wau is a bit wierd
18:29.44pastamancerlet me dig up the parser for it
18:29.48DashkalI thought .wau was just a list of folders to copy out
18:30.13pastamancerthere's a bit more to it than that
18:30.42lhunathhmm, the .wau file does contain all of those the .sh script mentions.
18:31.25ulicwait for pastamancer to get you more info, I'd believe what he says if he says there is more too it.
18:31.27pastamancerhttp://ace.pastey.net/85029
18:31.36pastamancerthat's the code the files script uses for parsing the .wau file
18:32.11pastamancerbasically if the line starts with '@' prepend the addon's name and an '_'
18:32.21pastamancerotherwise use the line as-is
18:32.54lhunathuse the line as the name of the destination directory in Interface/AddOns, then, right?
18:33.00pastamanceryeah
18:33.34lhunathwell; better than nothing - heh.
18:33.42pastamanceryou can also check the wowaddon:provides tag in the latest.xml
18:34.25lhunathdoes that one contain all the same modules and only those?
18:34.36pastamancerbut that won't necessarialy tell you what the source directory would be
18:34.43lhunathright.
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18:34.49Aethenellein my experience the .wau file isn't always used correctly...
18:34.54lhunath;x
18:35.30AethenelleI've turn splitting addons off because i had several break and not properly update due to it...
18:35.43Aethenelle*turned
18:36.09lhunathhmm.
18:36.20lhunathKC_Items has a .wau and a filelist.wau.
18:36.32pastamancerprefer .wau over filelist.wau
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18:37.01lhunathwhy isn't this .wau an XML file? ;x
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18:37.13lhunath*glare*
18:37.17Aethenellebecause it doesn't need to be?
18:37.18PrimerXML is overrated
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18:37.27Aethenellecreates overhead....
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18:37.46pastamancerpersonally, I'd just ignore it
18:37.47lhunathwhatever.  newlines are legal characters in filenames.
18:38.23lhunathusing line-based plain files to enumerate filenames is never really flawless unless you disregard that.
18:38.36dylanmWho is going to do that
18:38.44lhunathyeah, that's the spirit.
18:39.02Aethenellewhat OS supports newlines in the path?
18:39.12lhunathany POSIX OS.
18:39.14pastamancerjust about any modern one actually
18:39.17Swimnurdyeah
18:39.35Aethenelledang... shows me... still sounds really silly...
18:39.36pastamanceryou can use just about anything except the path separator and \0
18:39.43Dashkalmv file silly\
18:39.44Dashkalname
18:39.59lhunathit's a good way to break scripts, generally speaking.
18:40.13Dashkalworse is naming a file -
18:40.18lhunathI'm pretty sure it's used by many nasty techniques to screw people over.
18:40.18pastamancerthat doesn't mean that you should put newlines in filenames
18:40.21Fisker-http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31447 <-does anyone know how it works?
18:40.28Fisker-his first mana drain seems to be veeeeeeeery slow
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18:40.31Fisker-and then it seems to ramp up
18:41.15Starinniahe casts it more often the longer the fight goes til he spams it
18:41.28DashkalI had no idea that -- in posix means options done until I had to fiddle with a file that started with a -
18:41.31charonhehe, making a file called "foo\nbar" breaks the bash programmable completion script that ships with opensuse
18:41.38pastamancerDashkal: ./- works too :p
18:41.43Fisker-hmm Starinnia
18:41.51Dashkalfacepalms
18:41.54Grumwhat is normal dps for an affliction lock btw ? :D
18:41.54DashkalI didn't even think of that
18:41.57Fisker-so you can basically get a good chunk of damage in before he uses his first mana drain
18:41.58Grum~1500 orso maxed?
18:42.14Starinniai think you get about 50 seconds before the first one
18:42.21Starinniathen 40 before the second
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18:43.32Fisker-cool thanks :P
18:44.02Starinniaoh, and its 60 seconds before the first one
18:44.10Starinniathen 10 seconds less each time til he spams
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18:44.49Starinniamy favorite kill of Kaz was when thrall did the last 8% with of our healers alive watching
18:44.58Starinniaone of
18:46.03PrimerSo the other day I took a bunch of crap for my priest's 23/38/0 spec, people in heroic MgT telling me I sucked as a healer because of that
18:46.36Aethenelleand reading this python... the only thing that'd happen: files w/ newlines would fail to copy...
18:46.37Primernow, I know a lot of priests with that spec. I like that spec because I'm almost always the only priest with imp DS in 10/25 mans
18:47.00Primeris that spec really bad for 5 mans though?
18:47.00Starinniapeople that get worked up over spec make me laugh
18:47.16PrimerI've never had a problem with it before
18:47.22lhunathpastamancer: am I correct in assuming that the syntax of the .wau files is just filelist=[modulename]\nfilelist=[modulename]?
18:47.43Primeronly this last heroic MgT on the 3rd boss where the dps failed to get the damn imp off me during the fight
18:47.51Primerand we wiped several times
18:48.07lhunathno chance anyone documented this .wau format?
18:48.25ncd|Aileensvn admin here?
18:48.29AethenelleTry PvP gear for that fight... works a lot better...
18:48.41Primerheh, only 163 resil on that toon so far
18:48.46PrimerArena tier 0.5, baby!
18:49.06Aethenellewe tried last night w/ none... didn't go well at all...
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18:49.31AethenelleSPs are real squishy in PvP w/out resilience...
18:49.44Primerwaiting to get the T4 token head and gloves...wish that damn vendor would show up already
18:49.53Primerhave any realms unlocked that vendor yet?
18:49.53Aethenelleespecially against an almost all melee group like we had...
18:50.21CIA-1003funkydude * r67917 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua:
18:50.21CIA-10StatBlocks:
18:50.21CIA-10- bugfix GetX()
18:50.21CIA-10- remove GetLabelColor(), not worth it
18:50.21CIA-10- Tweak Print() and SetLabelColor()
18:50.22CIA-10- Expand Reset() to take label text as the first arg and reset the label and label colors if it is present
18:50.24CIA-1003wanthony * r67915 10FuBar_AlarmClockFu/ (AlarmClockFu.lua FuBar_AlarmClockFu.toc):
18:50.27Sent_CandyBar-2.0 -> if I self:UnregisterCandyBarGroup(SomeGroup) then self:UnregisterCandyBar is called on every SomeGroup bar?
18:50.28CIA-10FuBar_AlarmClockFu:
18:50.30CIA-10- Fixed countdown triggering bug
18:50.32CIA-10- fixed alarm AM/PM bug
18:50.34CIA-10- fixed bug in setting alarm hours
18:50.36CIA-10- fixed tooltip bug
18:50.38CIA-10- Side effect: hour fields now accept and display 24 hour format
18:50.46CIA-1003funkydude * r67918 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua: StatBlocks_DPS: Use the new API
18:50.51CIA-10Buffet: 03tekkub 07master * r4c8d058615 10Buffet/ (6 files): Add config and about panels, TOC metadata
18:51.05AethenelleI think wowinsider linked to a progression chart similar to the AQ one a week ago...
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18:51.26AethenelleUS proudmore is @ phase three...
18:52.43dylanmhttp://us.gorgonnash.info/
18:53.01Primerheh, I was already there
18:53.22PrimerI'm on gorgonnash, and I saw that URL in-game yesterday
18:53.27PrimerI thought it was specific to our realm
18:53.31Primerbut apparently it's not
18:53.32dylanmGoooo Nazjatar.
18:54.15ncd|Aileenpastamancer, are you svn-admin? :)
18:54.53Primerohh portal is done!
18:54.54Primercool
18:54.55Fisker-what is statblock Funkeh`?
18:55.08erzyis toc-number 20400 or 20410 now?
18:55.20pastamancerncd|Aileen: I don't get the emails, but I can fix things
18:55.50pastamancererzy: should still be 20400
18:55.55erzykk
18:56.22Arzach-DB-EUit's possible to make a BW (or similar) addon to yell @ tanks when they have to go in Kalecgos Spectral Realm ?
18:57.56Zeksieis away -( BT )- at 07:57p -( P:On / L:On )-
18:58.40kenlyricI wonder if that list is a good barometer of realm population
19:00.29erzyand is all the extra modules needed for NECB? (such as Debuffs, PvE Module etc. What do they do?)
19:00.59AethenelleDon't you guys require BW anyway? shouldn't they have that info?
19:01.00Matrix110vharr
19:01.01charonam i totally confused, or is there no longer an option to change the window _width_ in newest Omen?
19:01.06Matrix110do you know what NRT needs
19:01.16Matrix110a announce time / 2 remind message!
19:01.27Funkeh`can no one actually spell hes name right
19:01.27TE|AFKulaarhttp://wow.olli.la/screens/wowscrnshot_040308_202850.jpg <- whats the addon under the actionbars called?
19:01.29Matrix110i so hate it when people whisper me after the timeout and want to get added
19:01.34Funkeh`it's vhaarr not vharr
19:01.48Arzach-DB-EUAethenelle>: nop, that info isn't in BW, as it's not sure how many tanks you're using
19:03.06Aethenelleahh... sorry... don't know the fight... so... thingy happens, one of the tanks has to do something... on next thingy go to next tank?
19:03.56Aethenellenot sure BW is setup for that... Can't say I've heard of a mod for it either.... writing it would be possible tho.. assuming there was an event in the log...
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19:05.11Aethenelleyou'd have to either manually set MTs or import from blizz/ora/whatever raid mod...
19:06.07AethenelleI'd look to see if anything similar was seup for the gruul fight as a start...
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19:08.52AethenelleTE|AFKulaar: is that bar mod bongos? could be bongos_xp...
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19:09.22Funkeh`So can anyone confirm if player entering combat fires when logging in in combat
19:10.07dylanmKulaar: That's Forte Warlock.
19:10.15Kulaarah thx :)
19:12.15GngskFunkeh`, which event specifically?
19:12.41Funkeh`Gnarfoz, uh, PLAYER_ENTERING_COMBAT, nub ;p
19:12.59Gngskdidn't see it fired, saw UNIT_COMBAT go off though
19:13.01GnarfozFunkeh`: whut?
19:13.07dylanmPLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED is what you want probably...?
19:13.09GngskGnarfoz, he meant that for me
19:13.11Funkeh`oops PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED
19:13.28Funkeh`does it fire?
19:13.32Gngskyep
19:13.33dylanmYeah.
19:13.36Funkeh`good
19:14.11AethenelleIsn't that the event most mods have used to detect combat entrance?
19:14.34GngskI guess, you can prolly add another one to the list
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19:18.47CIA-903athou * r67919 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua:
19:18.47CIA-9FuBar_CraftTimersFu:
19:18.47CIA-9- fixing an error happening when disabling the monitoring
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19:26.38Chompersmy first archi attempt, any advice?
19:26.47Arzach-DB-EUAethenelle: yes it is. Tanks (usually 3) have to go in portals in rotation, but not on each portal. They have to get 1st, skip 2nd, get 3rd and so on
19:27.21Arzach-DB-EUChompers: stay alive. Dps isn't important. Just stay alive. It isn't a dps race
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19:30.04GngskChompers, hope you got light feathers
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19:32.29nevcairielwho needs light feathers if you can click the tear
19:33.08kenlyricdo both, imo
19:33.14kenlyricmacro that shit together
19:33.20GodzmackChompers: avoid fire :p
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19:39.01mitchnullis LSM-3.0's RegisterEvent() cheap and repeatable? That is, can I call it without checking if I called it before? (won't do this very often)
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19:39.55sicaAntiarc: I have no idea, what you have done, but Omen works on BB for us this time :)
19:40.11kenlyrichttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/03/intel-rep-says-people-probably-wont-need-discrete-graphics-in/
19:40.19kenlyricheh, glorious future in the 1980s
19:40.20Zyndromestack up on Noggenfogger and pray for slow fall
19:40.24Mikkmitchnull: yes it is cheap
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19:41.57Chompersah fuck, stuck on the 'connected' screen
19:42.08mitchnullmikk: also repeatable w/o sideeffects?
19:42.19nevcairielmitchnull: yes
19:42.22mitchnullmikk: also, can I unregister without prior registration?
19:42.37Mikkerm.. might take an added ", true" .. checking
19:42.57mitchnullhm?
19:43.08Mikknop, just go ahead and unreg
19:43.12mitchnullkk
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19:50.01sag_ich_nichtuhm
19:50.02sag_ich_nichtantiarc
19:50.07sag_ich_nichti just switched to overview mode
19:50.08sag_ich_nichtand
19:50.09sag_ich_nichtwell
19:50.11sag_ich_nichtone second later
19:50.27nevcairieloverview mode is not ready to be used
19:51.02sag_ich_nichtthen DISABLE IT
19:51.07sag_ich_nichtit just out of memory crashed me
19:51.34sag_ich_nichtmove that shit to branches if it fucking out of memories WoW
19:51.55nevcairielQQ more
19:51.58nevcairielgtfo :P
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19:53.24CIA-903benumbed * r67920 10DaPortrait/modules/Icons.lua:
19:53.24CIA-9DaPortrait:
19:53.24CIA-9- Remove Library Call that is unneeded
19:53.45HjalteAntiarc: AOE mode worked first time ever for me today ;)
19:54.05ckknight~seen benumbed
19:54.07purlbenumbed <n=benumbed@adsl-072-148-115-184.sip.lft.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 15m 28s ago, saying: 'that way it would work in either /ace3 or blizzards correctly'.
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19:56.47genetikHjalte: what did it show? i've never quite been sure what the expected functionality is in that mode.
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19:58.54Apoco~seen Peragor
19:58.55purlperagor <n=richmart@c-71-232-199-49.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 20h 5m 14s ago, saying: 'I still use TekKompare.  Not ace, but it doesn't need to be, unless you are too lazy to link it into you "non-ace addon updator" of choice.'.
19:59.22Apocobleh
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20:00.21CIA-903schelli * r67921 10BigWigs_KalecgosPortals/BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.lua: BigWigs_KalecgosPortals: added numbers on top bar showing amount of ppl inside for each group 1-5
20:01.02mitchnullif I OptDep LSM3, but do not embed it, then I don't have to embed CallbackHandler either, right?
20:01.15Hjaltegenetik: Lots of bars with my threat on them :)
20:02.25genetikHjalte: so it just tracks your threat on multiple mobs? does it give your percent compared to who currently has aggro?
20:02.59Arrowmastermitchnull: right as long as its coded to be truely optional in your addon
20:03.09mitchnullit is
20:03.14mitchnulloptional font selection stuff
20:03.31Hjaltegenetik: Only tried it on one group in BT, so can't say that much.
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20:04.38genetikHjalte: hmm.. ok. i'd assume that it does since i can't imagine it being very useful if it didn't show where the tank was.
20:05.22hypetechdoh. dammit.  I forgot about that CooldownCount issue and just ran update on my other computer >.<
20:06.57hypetech657 errors in 25 seconds ftl
20:07.12nevcairieli wonder how CC manages to do that
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20:07.35hypetechdidn't WAU have an option to revert your last update?
20:07.51Grumno
20:08.03hypetechIf I just remove CC does the error go away?
20:08.33nevcairieloh i think i know why it happens
20:08.42nevcairielCBH-1.0 is missing in CC embeds
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20:10.38NeoTronAntiarc: haev you abandoned armory tools? the rep one doesn't seem to work , at least
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20:11.44hypetechya I just removed CC and everything is working wonderfully again
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20:14.15sag_ich_nicht[21:51] <nevcairiel> QQ more <--i'm not QQing dickhead, one of my paladin healers crashed himself to death 3 times because of it
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20:14.20sag_ich_nichtgood job nevcairiel you cunt
20:14.34sag_ich_nicht:(
20:14.49nevcairielcan i request a ban for him?
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20:15.43sag_ich_nichtsorry
20:15.43dylanmBecause of what now?
20:15.44sag_ich_nicht:/
20:15.53nevcairielinsults
20:15.56sag_ich_nichtbecause i said "you cunt", i realized that was too harsh a second afterwards
20:15.57sag_ich_nichtsorry
20:15.58sag_ich_nicht:/
20:16.24pastamancernow give him a hug
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20:16.43sag_ich_nichtno i feel uncomfortable having physical contact with people that are not close to me
20:16.43sag_ich_nicht:/
20:16.58ckknightat least shake hands
20:17.09sag_ich_nichtokay find
20:17.19sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel cut off your hand and send it to me so i can shake it
20:17.36sag_ich_nicht*fine
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20:18.36nevcairiel(your paladin is really stupid though, "hey that crashed me - now to doing that three times in a row")
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20:19.48sfogartyHi... wondering if there's a quartz mod that adds party casting bars?
20:20.01nevcairieli dont see a reason why it should crash, though
20:20.48Zhinjiosfogarty: use something like pitbull that can add castbars to the party unit frames
20:21.03sfogartyBut I like the default unit frames... pitbull makes them all wierd :)
20:21.18Zhinjiocries.
20:21.32hypetechI think you could use pitbull and *only* show castbars no?
20:21.34sfogartyWhen I start raiding, maybe I'll reconsider.
20:21.39hypetechseems like overkill though
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20:21.52sfogartyI isntalled pitbul once. then it was scary.
20:21.54sfogartyand I ran away
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20:22.44pastamancersfogarty: simpleunitframes might... I don't use it but it's supposed to enhance the default unit frames
20:23.01pastamancerI like the default unit frames too
20:23.23sfogartyI'm actually currently using ct_unitframes, becuase it hadds 'health missing' to the side :)
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20:23.51taskulrafChiming in on the "cooldown count kicked my dog and broke my UI" bandwagon.  For today anyways.  I hope it's fixed soon. :S
20:24.03StarinniaOmniCC ftw
20:24.21taskulrafyea I used to use OmniCC
20:24.31sfogartyis simpleunitframes an ace thing?
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20:28.20sfogartyDoesn't look like simpleunitframes has a party casting bar
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20:32.19hypetechtaskulraf: If you just remove CC for now all your other stuff will start working
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20:34.26Grummmm no elsia?
20:34.30Grum~seen Elsia
20:34.34purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A25221.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 34m 41s ago, saying: 'morning'.
20:34.55Grumoh well ... recount relogging person: http://ace.pastey.net/85034
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20:36.27CIA-903mitchell * r67922 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: register with LSM-3.0 if we configured font is not (yet) found
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20:40.20SpiritstrikeHowdy people
20:40.24NoctsFuck you
20:40.27Spiritstrike\
20:40.36AntiarcMorning everyone
20:40.39SpiritstrikeYOUR FIRED
20:40.42NoctsMorning  anti
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20:41.04Xinhuanyou should see the wowace forums, alar made his first post
20:41.08Xinhuanits a legend ;)
20:41.11NoctsOh god, link
20:41.20Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12492
20:41.30Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12492.0
20:41.38Xinhuannot sure if the link works without the .0
20:41.58SpiritstrikeMust game bbl
20:42.03Nocts"P.S.2 You should hop on #wowace IRC channel, your code is well known to be bad and inefficient beyond belief to the point of being a legend."
20:42.06Noctshahahahahah
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20:43.08AntiarcXinhuan didn't pull any punches there
20:43.16Nocts"The only reason why people review your library and addons is because the commit notes you put in there are hilarious, and show a lack of understanding of the wow addon events and addon system, as well as a non-intimate knowledge of Lua itself."
20:43.18NoctsYes he did
20:43.22NoctsAnd it made me roflmao
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20:43.27pleaseandthankyohave you ever been bullied extensively by your psychologist or someone lower than you who assumes the role of psychologist? what to do when your psychologist see you and know what your problems are and then bully me/you? what would you do? would you change your career so you can become a psychologist? you can't get helped with the police because police helps them.
20:43.58kenlyrichmmm... I think I just spam on irc
20:44.13kenlyriccan you help me with the size of my breasts?
20:44.27CIA-903Tristan * r67924 10EquivalencePoints/ (19 files in 5 dirs):
20:44.27CIA-9EquivalencePoints:
20:44.27CIA-9- Initial Commit
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20:46.46CIA-903apoco * r67925 10aX_RaidStatus/ (RaidStatusCore.lua locales/enUS.lua):
20:46.46CIA-9aX_RaidStatus(Ace3):
20:46.46CIA-9- Fix: Talent Detection issues when other mods use LibTalentQuery-1.0(ooppss).
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20:47.32CIA-903apoco * r67926 10RBM/CooldownWatch/CooldownWatch.lua:
20:47.32CIA-9RBM:
20:47.32CIA-9CooldownWatch: Added BT Trinkets to Hidden Cooldowns.
20:49.20CIA-903apoco * r67927 10RBM_Config/Config.lua:
20:49.20CIA-9RBM_Config:
20:49.20CIA-9- New: Use Skull instead of *** Feature.
20:49.44CIA-903apoco * r67928 10RBM_Hyjal/RBM_Hyjal.toc:
20:49.44CIA-9RBM_Hyjal:
20:49.44CIA-9- TOC Fix.
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20:50.45pastamancerWobWork: fixed your connection problems?
20:50.51CIA-903apoco * r67929 10RBM_Sunwell/ (5 files in 2 dirs): RBM_Sunwell: -All Boss Mods Updated
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20:51.18CIA-903apoco * r67930 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (Bloodboil.lua Supremus.lua): RBM_BlackTemple: - Bloodboil and Supremus fixes.
20:51.40pastamancerguess not
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20:52.25odtwhat file made WAU skip the addon?
20:52.41kenlyric.svn
20:52.48kenlyricfolder
20:52.51odtk
20:52.52odtty
20:52.52kenlyricpossibly others
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20:54.30DashkalConsidering Alar's ... reputation, that thread is amazingly civil (or heavily moderated)
20:54.49kenlyricit's new
20:55.04pastamancerit's not moderated
20:55.55DashkalBased on his second post I'm betting he's going to be burnt to a crisp later.
20:56.02Zhinjio~seen Elkano
20:56.04purlelkano <i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 47m 45s ago, saying: 'Bela, ever seen AlarLib? ;)'.
20:56.16Zhinjioanyone else a EBB expert on layouts and stuff?
20:56.30ZhinjioI'd like to copy the layout/format/etc of Group 1 to Group 2
20:57.25CIA-903Tristan * r67931 10EquivalencePoints/:
20:57.25CIA-9EquivalencePoints:
20:57.25CIA-9- Externals
20:57.51chdstIf I'd be so bold as to correct, from the "legendary alar thread": "Fact is, [programmers] tend to review each other's code[...], to improve each other's [code], help to fix each other's [code]."
20:58.12Zhinjionm. figured it out
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20:58.36kalahassiantiarc, noth is the only naxxramasboss,that needs a npc-module in threat , isnt he?
20:58.49chdstCode review is an essential part of any good program, and someone so vehemently against having his privates looked at is likely a bad programmer by that standard alone. There's simply no need to look at his code, or bind that statement to WoW's addon environment in general. :)
20:59.17CIA-903Tristan * r67932 10EquivalencePoints/:
20:59.17CIA-9EquivalencePoints:
20:59.17CIA-9- externals (misstake)
20:59.51sag_ich_nichtahahahahaha
20:59.56sag_ich_nichtthat thread is awesome
20:59.58sag_ich_nichtroflmao
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21:00.33kalahassimhm=?
21:00.37ZealotOnAStickIs there a version of MrPlow (or something LIKE MrPlow) that does what MrPlow does, but for guild vault tabs?
21:01.02nevcairielAntiarc: misdirect doesnt misdirect :(
21:01.16shieldbthere needs to be a MrPlow style addon for guild banks that does useful things with seaspray emeralds
21:01.21shieldblike http://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/warcraft/seaspray.jpg
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21:01.22DashkalI believe ArkInventory can do that with it's restack command
21:01.49ChaudAntiarc what is wrong with those armory tools =(
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21:05.08Dark_Elfhmm wowui must be having server problems
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21:06.19Saroznevcairiel, noticed
21:06.30Saroznevcairiel, will fix
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21:06.41Arrowmaster`bah silly nick length limit
21:06.43Sarozit's like.. 38 yards or something
21:06.49nevcairielyeah that was my guess :P
21:07.17Sarozit works for for Mindcontorl and shit though
21:07.21Sarozand resses
21:07.22Sarozcorpses
21:07.48CIA-903adirelle * r67933 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFuLocals.frFR.lua: FuBar_GuildFu: updated frFR class localization.
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21:11.16ZeksieThreat question. pre 2.4 i'd get 700-900 TPS as a rogue, now it's showing in the 1500-1800 area.. :)
21:11.17Zeksieis back -( BT )- gone 2 hr 13 min 21 s
21:11.55Zeksieit's terron, so would expect a little more, but I don't do 2500 dps..
21:12.22dylanmSPEC MUT
21:12.25dylanmThat's my advice.
21:12.27Zeksierecount says 1744 dps that fight, but it showed me with 1500 tps
21:12.31Zeksieheh
21:12.38Arrowmaster`did you have salv?
21:12.39Zeksiewhcih can't be right
21:12.41Zeksieeh
21:12.42Zeksieyeah
21:12.48Arrowmaster`that has to be wrong
21:12.54Zeksiethat's why i mention it
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21:13.31Zeksiewould expect maybe nearer 1100 tps
21:14.05Zeksieother ppl saying theirs is way low too.
21:14.38Zeksielike shamans with 500 instead of 1000
21:14.51charon1744dps should put you around 1744*0.71*0.7 = 867tps as rogue with BoS
21:15.02Zeksieyeah, that's more what i'm used to charon
21:15.35Zeksieand i certianly shouldn't have to vanish 30 secs into fight cos i overtook MT on threat..
21:15.37CIA-903nevcairiel * r67934 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua:
21:15.37CIA-9Omen: SingleTarget:
21:15.37CIA-9- if we get a name reported as <unknown>, try to update the name the next update run
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21:16.14charonspeaking of singletarget mod, i made a screen that shows a dead pet's bar getting stuck
21:16.22charonnot that it's of much importance but still
21:16.31nevcairielpets still dont reset properly
21:16.37nevcairielthats a thing for Antiarc to fix, i have no idea :P
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21:18.36charonAntiarc: ^ ... http://vmp.ethz.ch/~thomas/petstuck.jpg
21:19.10nevcairielhow creative
21:19.12nevcairielPferd!
21:19.36nevcairielyour missing a tank
21:19.38nevcairiel:)
21:20.03charonheh
21:20.21charonno, the tank is missing a thick fur like i have
21:20.53charonthough it's been improving, he only died first about 4-5 times all evening and we had archi at 17% or so
21:21.13nevcairiel17% is 7 to go!
21:21.21charoni know
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21:21.32CIA-903Tristan * r67935 10Enhancer/ (58 files in 19 dirs):
21:21.32CIA-9Enhancer:
21:21.32CIA-9- 2.4 (better late then never?)
21:23.56BrunersHeiler mana ?
21:24.12Arrowmaster`ugg why is ssh being so laggy
21:24.24Brunerssomeone is uploading porn
21:24.39NeoTrondoes rogues armor breaking combination stack with sunder armor?
21:24.45erzydoes NECB work after 2.4? only getting error-msgs,  and haven't been able to test it in action
21:24.56nevcairielNeoTron: no
21:25.00EvilJohn-Expose Armor does not
21:25.19EvilJohn-in pre TBC days an expose armor would prevent the tank from sundering
21:25.21EvilJohn-that was bad
21:25.22[eu]gunderwich is why expose armor is completly useless
21:25.43EvilJohn-it seems now though, devastate is the more powerful ability
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21:26.01charonZeksie: perhaps you can sanity check /dump LibStub("Threat-2.0"):GetModule("Player"):threatMods()
21:26.05charonwith BoS and all that stuff
21:26.12charonBruners: what about it?
21:26.32Brunersis that german or something?
21:26.36Xan3mendeleev add lockpiking info to tooltip?
21:26.46charonyeah heiler = healer
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21:27.39ArrowmasterClassi wonder if Pidgen irc via ssh tunnel is less laggy than irssi inside screen over ssh
21:28.20haste<3 irssi proxy
21:28.36ArrowmasterClassi still need to set that up
21:29.04CIA-903Tristan * r67936 10Enhancer/:
21:29.04CIA-9Enhancer:
21:29.04CIA-9- externals corrected
21:29.06Xan3mendeleev add lockpiking info to tooltip?
21:29.14ArrowmasterClassyeah it does
21:29.30Sarozwhy the fuck dont GetSpellInfo return the spell ID
21:29.39Xan3wow 2.4 add it
21:29.56ArrowmasterClassuse GetSpellLink():match("spell:(%d+)")
21:30.08Sarozthats gay
21:30.14ArrowmasterClassugg damn graphical smilies
21:30.44AethenelleAnyone else having problems getting incubators bars to show up?
21:30.54charonZeksie: random idea: perhaps Seethe got stuck after ROS? (if it is possible to do ROS first)
21:30.58SarozGetSpellLink(spellId or spellName or spellLink)
21:31.02SarozI know nether
21:31.09Sarozneither
21:31.11ArrowmasterClassSaroz: what do you know?
21:31.18SarozGetSpellInfo(i, BOOKTYPE_SPELL)
21:31.20charonZeksie: (some people had a problem where Insignificance got stuck during/after BB)
21:31.43ArrowmasterClassSaroz: GetSpellLink and GetSpellInfo share the same inputs
21:31.50Sarozoki, thx
21:32.10Zeksienah. on way to RoS now
21:32.20Zeksienot done gurtogg yet either
21:32.59Zeksiesanity check says 0.7, that's with salv on
21:33.13charonsounds like it "forgets" your class modifier?
21:33.15ArrowmasterClasson a rogue?
21:33.18Zeksieyes
21:33.19ArrowmasterClassyeah thats bugged
21:33.20Zeksierogue
21:33.29ArrowmasterClass0.7 is just from BoS
21:34.00ArrowmasterClassremove bos and check
21:34.08sicacharon: didn't have this problem tonight, but... until the first fel rage 2 of our tanks weren't visible in omen
21:34.14LeialynAntiar3: The threat-2.0 mage module seems to handle invis wrong... when I cast invis it instantly clears threat instead accounting the ticking buff and clearing thread after it
21:34.16[eu]gunderrogue have what 15% threat modifier?
21:34.24AethenelleWhen i type "/incubator baroptions lock" I get a attempt to access index nil value error
21:34.25Zeksie1 without BoS
21:34.28ArrowmasterClass29%
21:34.31Aethenelle30%
21:34.54sfogartyAnyone know a simple way to add party caster frames?
21:35.23LeialynAntiar3: hmm guess the spells are mixed up
21:35.24Aethenellepull caster classes out of the raid window?
21:35.42sfogartysorry, party casting bars
21:35.49sfogartyshow what the party is casting
21:36.01[eu]gunderso that make .49 with BoS on right?
21:36.03ArrowmasterClassLeialyn: getting him a /combatlog of you using invis might help
21:36.03ChaudSomeone used that AV premade enabler code and made it work for all battlegrounds, bypassing the long queues =D
21:36.22AethenelleI though BoS was 30% as welll...
21:36.25sicaone of our hunters pulled aggro on RoS P3 this night even though he was at 80% of tank aggro in omen
21:36.36ArrowmasterClassBos is 30%
21:36.37sb_yup
21:36.49ArrowmasterClassChaud: huh?
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21:36.53LeialynArrowmasterClass: I try if it was only a mix up of both invis spell id's
21:36.55sb_something strange happened to omen
21:37.04Chaudhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8619-Steamroller-SkipBGQues.html#
21:37.13[eu]gunderyes but does the multiplier stack like .7*.7 or is it a flat .4?
21:37.19CIA-903kergoth * r67937 10NShakedown/Addons/ (Chinchilla.lua SmoothDurability.lua): NShakedown: make sure StandardUI and Chinchilla modules don't screw up the SmoothDurability module.
21:37.20sb_0.7*0.7
21:37.37ArrowmasterClassshould be 0.71*0.7
21:37.38sb_(BoS + totem)
21:37.51[eu]gunderok thanks
21:37.51Saroznevcairiel, k, have it ready, and no tooltip scanning <3
21:37.58CIA-903Tristan * r67938 10Enhancer/ (News.lua f_Console.lua locale/enUS.lua):
21:37.58CIA-9Enhancer:
21:37.58CIA-9- Updated News.lua a bit as there where some old info in it
21:38.01ArrowmasterClassoh i thought totem was 80%
21:38.14[eu]gunderno totem is equivalent to BoS
21:38.25[eu]gunderbut it doesn't stack
21:38.49CIA-903nevcairiel * r67939 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: small tweak
21:38.50Dashkaloh god it's painful writing python when I'm used to lua
21:39.04ArrowmasterClassyes it does stack
21:39.25charonDashkal: if you think that's bad, try the other way around
21:39.29CIA-903dodge * r67940 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (cdb_base.lua locales/enUS.lua): CoolDownButtons: wohoo, its able to show cooldowns :D
21:39.36[eu]gunderthe totem and BoS? O_o well that's news to me
21:39.44ArrowmasterClassall threat mods stack
21:39.49CIA-903Tristan * r67941 10EquivalencePoints/News.lua:
21:39.49CIA-9EquivalencePoints:
21:39.49CIA-9- News.lua updated
21:39.54DashkalI did that when I first learned lua
21:39.58ArrowmasterClassand totem is only 20% reduction
21:39.59CIA-903nevcairiel * r67942 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
21:39.59CIA-9Threat-2.0:
21:39.59CIA-9- fix a potential upvalue problem
21:39.59CIA-9- move version query on login to OnEnable so it actually works
21:40.01DashkalI like lua's syntax
21:40.12Zeksiealso, on subject of TPS... the rolling average window needs to be a little bigger i think. cos it fluctuates hugely from low to high between backstabs
21:43.01ckknightanyone know how much XP it takes to go from say, 69-70?
21:43.30Zeksie700k ish
21:43.43Aiianehttp://wowwiki.com/Formulas:XP_To_Level
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21:44.47Aiiane69 - 779700
21:44.56Sarozomen on mother is SOOOOOO fucked
21:44.57Sarozlol
21:45.08Sarozand RoS
21:45.12HjalteSomething is bad in my wow. I was having a lower than normal fps in AV and the raid today, and when enabling that thing in performancefu to find out what is wrong, I can't even log in :\
21:45.37NivFreakHjalte: I saw significant FPS drops last night, and I'm not sure what it was either
21:45.41ben_"Recount: Zepkol <Ultrix> : Ultrix !Double owner detected! Please report the trace below"  http://rafb.net/p/LkDIcn18.html
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21:48.02CIA-903nevcairiel * r67943 10Omen/ (16 files in 15 dirs):
21:48.02CIA-9Omen:
21:48.02CIA-9- fix display of the new revision in the out of date notice
21:48.02CIA-9- svn property stuff
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21:49.24kalahassinevcairiel, thank you very much for helping anti
21:49.46ChompersFisker- ?
21:50.09nevcairielSaroz: whats wrong on mother?
21:50.21nevcairieli dont remember her having any special aggro attacks
21:50.27Sarozomen is just fubar then :p
21:50.50sdoubleweren't they supposedly going to introduce their own threat meter?
21:50.51nevcairielworks fine for us on Brutallus right now
21:50.58nevcairielsdouble: expansion
21:51.00sdoubleah
21:51.19charonhmm, when i log in on my level 1 rogue, flag "show omen when resting", and hit /dump LibStub("Threat-2.0"):GetModule("Player"):threatMods()
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21:51.35charoni get ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:672: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'buffThreatMultipliers' (a nil value)
21:52.04charonbut :Boot() sets buffThreatMultipliers =1. perhaps something is set up in the wrong order?
21:52.57nevcairielhm maybe it disables the module
21:53.01nevcairielchecks
21:53.10nevcairielcan you dump :IsEnabled()
21:53.13nevcairielon the module?
21:53.21charoni also put "show when alone", ran outside of IF, same thing
21:53.24charonsec
21:54.19charonhmm. no. forget the last one, will have to redo the outside thing
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21:54.39nevcairieli see why thought
21:54.47hypetechAnybody else noticing that it's harder not to pull aggro on RoS P3 since 2.4?
21:54.47nevcairielThreat itself disables while resting
21:54.52nevcairielits just Omen that still shows
21:54.55charonyeah there's the problem
21:54.57nevcairielbut will never receive data
21:55.00charonwhen zoning around a bit
21:55.01nevcairielits not a problem really
21:55.16charonfirstly, even though i want it to run when resting, it disables the Player module anyway
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21:55.36charonsecond, after re-enabling when walking outside IF, the threatMods() of my rogue are suddenly 1
21:55.54charonah
21:56.04charonprototype:OnEnable() calls :Boot()
21:56.30charonwhich re-sets the values to default
21:57.06charonbut then does _not_ call the mod-specific stuff because self.classInitted == true from last time
21:57.09charonthat make sense?
21:57.29charonnevcairiel: ^
21:57.59nevcairieli see
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21:58.33nevcairielthe defaults should probably be in OnInit
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22:00.17charonprobably. Rogue.lua in any case does not have a ClassEnabled()
22:00.24charon*ClassEnable()
22:00.47charonso either the above, or the class-specific constants need to move to Enabled()
22:00.56oxEzhm anyone have the problem with simpleMiniMap where it won't show the tracking button?
22:01.25charonnevcairiel: or perhaps prototype:OnEnabled() should call :ClassEnable() instead of :Boot() ?
22:01.45charonthough that might obviously break other class modules if they rely on :Boot()
22:03.50charonpokes Antiar3
22:04.00nevcairieli'll let Antiar3 fix that, not sure how those values work together
22:04.23charon(in what timezone is he?)
22:04.34nevcairielsome us thing, not sure which exactly :P
22:04.38dylanmAren't all tall people in Texas
22:04.49dylanmJust something I read.
22:04.58charoni'd favour the last solution in any case, because it's quite confusing to call Boot() every now and then
22:05.14ArrowmasterClasshmm he should move all that AceEvent_FullyInitialized directly to OnEnable or somewhere else
22:05.44nevcairieli'll jira it and provide some details, he can figure out how to fix it
22:07.19charonnevcairiel: some history digging also reveals that the Boot() in OnEnable() is older than Boot()'s behaviour of only initializing once
22:08.10charonshrugs
22:08.17nevcairieli think its a relict before AceAddon-3.0 or something
22:08.17Cyndurcyn
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22:08.20Cynyou around/
22:08.22nevcairieloh wait
22:08.22Cyn?
22:08.35nevcairielits not a aceaddon module
22:09.02nevcairielor is it..
22:09.09nevcairielhm
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22:10.24charonnevcairiel: :GetModule() is never defined inside threat's directory
22:11.02charonon the other hand, AceAddon-3.0 has it :)
22:11.55Cynany t6 locks on?
22:12.08nevcairielhe is probably out or something, its easier to catch him in the morning
22:12.09nevcairieland with that
22:12.12nevcairieli go to sleep :P
22:12.37charonso should i... and it's probably too late for a fix in time for the US raiders, anyway
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22:13.36Yssarillua> local sort = {} ; print(#sort)
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22:15.09VonhintenHOME`I'm east coast, we don't start raiding for another couple hours
22:15.40charonwell
22:15.56charoni'm afraid i can't commit. if nevcairiel doesn't dare to fix that, then i sure as hell won't touch it :)
22:16.09charonbest i can do right now, is recommend that you /rl after zoning into the instance
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22:16.35charonif i understood the problem right, it only appears the second time you initialize omen. for example, join raid, leave raid, join raid.
22:17.11charonso just tell everyone to /reloadui once you're all set up and inside the instance and it shouldn't be a problem
22:18.43VonhintenHOME`what happens?
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22:19.09charonrogue's innate threat mod is overwritten with 1 again, so they don't see their class mod of 0.71
22:19.16CIA-903hedin * r67944 10WF3sec/core.lua: WF3sec: Small update for loading
22:19.23VonhintenHOME`ah
22:19.27mitchnullhow is one supposed to get the OnProfileChanged event from AceDB-3?
22:19.31Dashkaldoes everybody need to reload or just rogues?  Are druids in cat form affected?
22:19.42charondruids aren't affected, i've checked that (i'm druid main)
22:20.08VonhintenHOME`I take it lua and the tools you guys use have no address-breakpoint system?
22:20.17ArrowmasterClassrogues are the only class with a set global modifier thats different than 1 right?
22:20.32mikmackknight: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/pitbull.jpg
22:20.39Dashkalafaik yes.  The other mods I know of are all conditional
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22:20.55ArrowmasterClassthats what i thought
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22:21.18Nicarrasdid anyone elses prat settings get messed up today?
22:21.28charoneither way, the problem isn't with the class modules so if any others are broken, they should all work as soon as ThreatClassModuleCore is fixed
22:21.41ArrowmasterClassso either the Rogue:ClassInit() needs to get run again or the place where it resets it to 1 needs to check if its already set and if so dont change it
22:22.09Dashkalalar responds...
22:22.23ArrowmasterClasswah?
22:22.24charonArrowmasterClass: well, read the above discussion with nev. he's also opened a jira ticked and i'm trying to add a few comments right now
22:22.30Dashkalhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12492.0
22:22.52charonIMHO he should just change OnEnable() to call ClassEnable() instead of Boot(), like the name suggests, but i'm nowhere near the expert that nev is
22:23.51Cynany t6 locks on?
22:23.53Cyn?
22:23.56Nicarrasyes
22:24.09Cynquestion about haste
22:24.15Nicarrask
22:24.17Cynit seems that once you get the t6 bonus
22:24.43Cynthat haste gems stacking is not as good as 12dmg gems
22:24.54mitchnulldo I see it correctly that the AceDB event handling stuff is not finished?
22:25.08NicarrasThe haste/dmg gems are very nice
22:25.20Cynthey are at my gear level
22:25.26Cynbut working on the spreadsheet
22:25.31hypetechyes, it's great that they actually made a useful yellow socket gem
22:25.36Cynit seems once u get the t6 bonus 4pc
22:25.41Cynthe dmg gems are better
22:25.53Cyni men by truckloads
22:26.01Nicarrasyeah, plus haste starts to flatten out as you get more of it
22:26.06Cynyea
22:26.13Nicarrasso as haste is good for a while, dmg will pass it again
22:26.13hastevhaarr: irc is superior for this!
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22:26.25Cynit seems liek once you get 180 it doesnt increase as much as +dmg does
22:26.33Aethenellewell I found some of my problem w/ incubator... for some reason it's always loaded in standby...
22:26.36Cyni jsut wanted to make sure im not scrwing somehtign up
22:26.37Nicarrasi'd agree with that
22:26.39hastevhaarr: latest oUF doesn't try to apply most of the attributes to the raid header
22:27.13hastevhaarr: http://ixo.no/git/oUF_Lily.git/diff/layout.lua?id=6787707855dd27953987817d3966d2e2c128890e << should explain it
22:28.03sag_ich_nichtGOD DAMN IT
22:28.06sag_ich_nichtFUCKING DOTBITCH TRINKET
22:28.11sag_ich_nichtstill no shard -.-
22:28.15sag_ich_nichtI HATE MgT
22:28.21Olison\o/
22:28.50Nicarrasanyone elses prat and elk settings get messed up after updating today?
22:29.06Nicarrasmy chat frames are right and elk plain isnt working
22:29.12Zeksiethreat again... my modifier without BoS showing as 0.7 now (i updated a bit ago). shouldn't it be 0.71 ?
22:29.14AbsoRaynesag_ich_nicht: /pat
22:29.32hypetechNicarras: remove CooldownCount
22:29.38charonZeksie: it should be 0.71. did you /reload?
22:29.45Zeksiewill try that now.
22:29.48Nicarrashmm i'll give it a whirl
22:29.53charonZeksie: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/OMEN-37
22:29.56Zeksieyes, after update i did
22:30.06Zeksiejust gonna reload now to see startup value
22:30.33ArrowmasterClassself.passiveThreatModifiers = 0.71
22:30.43ArrowmasterClassoh class is over
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22:31.30Nicarrasthanks cooldowncount seemed to be the problem...whats the deal?
22:31.33ArrowmasterClasspokes Arrowmaster`
22:31.48ArrowmasterClasshmm oh well its irssi in a screen, it can sit there for a while
22:31.56hypetechNicarras: no idea :(
22:32.02hypetechNicarras: I'm just using OmniCC for now
22:32.09ArrowmasterClassNicarras: most people recommend OmniCC over CooldownCount
22:32.16ArrowmasterClassout!
22:32.20charonZeksie: you could try the patch if you know how to apply/read it
22:32.20Nicarrascool, thanks for the tip
22:32.31Cyn@Nicarra you want to check out my armory i am thinkign about gettign the neck off ros tonight you think that is the best upgrade since i wont be able to get t6 bonus fro a while due to dkp
22:32.38charonnight all ... /wave
22:32.49Cynhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Cynics
22:32.51Zeksiea fresh reload and it's 0.71 again. but i'd certainly reloaded after updating. will keep an eye on it
22:33.05hypetechSomebody posted a core.lua fix for Scorchio on the EJ forums, is there any way we could get that on the version on the SVN?
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22:35.44_ranehow can i have my diminishing returns visible with NECB even without targeting something?
22:36.28AntiarcI don't think that OMEN-37 is a concern
22:36.31AntiarcUnless I'm missing something
22:36.37AntiarcReinitializing those values is harmless
22:36.55AntiarcAnd is good to do when the module is re-enabled because the events that would have changed them otherwise are unregistered when Threat is disabled
22:37.09ChompersAntiarc! hello thar
22:37.15AntiarcHerro
22:37.31Nicarrasnice interview at Curse sir
22:37.50Chomperscan you change the threat protocol again? it forces people to update their addons
22:37.56Chompersand i like it when they do that :D
22:37.56NeoTronAntiarc: from what I gather, something is _not_ initialized correctly due to Boot being called?
22:38.27NeoTronAntiarc: '' but then does _not_ call the mod-specific stuff because self.classInitted == true from last time''
22:38.43NeoTronbut don't ask me, I have no clue what it's about :P
22:38.46hypetechAntiarc: is there any way you could replace the core.lua in the SVN version of scorchio with http://wombat.robostac.co.uk/~robo/core.lua ?  It's a fix for 2.4 that somebody put up in the EJ forums since scorchio doesn't seem to be working since the new patch.  The fix seems to work flawlessly
22:38.57CIA-903ackis * r67945 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua:
22:38.57CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
22:38.57CIA-9- LW Update
22:39.03ChaudAntiarc what is wrong with your armory tools =(
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22:39.34EllipsisI wish I were as popular as Antiarc :(
22:39.59AethenelleChaud: wowarmory is usually painfully slow and or broken?
22:40.05Antiarchypetech: Have you tried getting ahold of the author? I don't like making unpermissioned codebase commits
22:40.12AntiarcChaud: Bibi is moving the servers they're on
22:40.20Nicarrasyeah its usually not his tools, its the stupid servers
22:40.26Antiarcneotron: Again, I don't think it's an issue but I'll check
22:40.29Nicarrasarmory scrapers are nice to write but the armory is a dog
22:40.52ChaudAllrighty, wish he told me these things =(
22:41.14AntiarcYeah, I don't want a module to init more than once
22:41.19AntiarcBut the boot function can run as often as necessary
22:41.21hypetechAntiarc: all it says for the author is "Ennui@Bloodhoof-EU" and I don't have access to an EU server :(
22:41.34Antiarchypetech: Ask one of our friendly EU folks to make an alt and send an email! :P
22:42.20hypetechAny EU in here willing to send that guy a link to a core.lua fix?
22:42.21hypetechheh
22:43.13ChaudEU and friendly clearly don't mix =O
22:43.18hypetechI know somebody in the wowace forums has been talking about taking over, but it doesn't look like he's been able to get in touch with the guy either
22:45.20[eu]gunderhypetech: what is the message i'm making a toon to msg ennui (i'm lazy and won't scroll ^^)
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22:45.58hypetechgunder: can you just give him this link http://wombat.robostac.co.uk/~robo/core.lua and ask if he can replace the core.lua on the SVN with that one?
22:46.10hypetechfor the scorchio! mod
22:46.11[eu]gundersure
22:46.14hypetechtyty
22:47.01BibiNicarras : my servers aren't stupid.
22:47.02Bibi:(
22:47.07Bibiand Aethenelle : what's wrong with it ?
22:47.42Bibioh wait
22:47.48Bibithat was Chaud's question
22:47.55hypetechBibi: I'm pretty sure 99% of the time I go to the armory it's not working >.>
22:47.59BibiI don't care about him.
22:48.16Chaud... /wrists
22:48.27ChaudBUT ILL LOVE YOU LONG TIME =(
22:49.01NicarrasBibi: Not your servers...blizzards armory servers
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22:49.40Bibiyeah forget about it, it was Chaud.
22:49.48Bibithis guy blocked me on MSN, I don't care about him
22:49.57Chaudlol
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22:50.22Chaudaccidentally.
22:50.30XelopherisThis is odd O_o My mymedia files from sharedmedia aren't loading
22:50.59hypetechXelopheris: Remove cooldowncount if you have it >.>
22:51.06Xelopherisgod damnit
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22:51.23hypetechmight want to put that in the topic or something :-\
22:51.32Zeksiebleh. charon left. tried that diff, it stops the init working. will poke it a bit
22:51.41XelopherisHow the hell does cooldowncount mess that shit up?
22:51.53hypetechI haven't heard a reason for it yet today, but it does
22:51.55hypetechheh
22:52.16Xelopherisnope, don't have my files
22:52.24hypetechhmm
22:52.26hypetechdunno then
22:52.36Xelopheristime to do a grep
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22:54.04CIA-903funkydude * r67946 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: small naming change
22:54.20VonhintenHOME`I really wish there was an easy way to deal with profiles spanning multiple accounts...
22:54.25VonhintenHOME`it's such a pain in my ass
22:54.32[eu]gunderhypetech: he's not online, what bug does your code fix? (i'm sending him a letter)
22:54.37CIA-903funkydude * r67947 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua: StatBlocks_DPS: comply with naming change
22:55.08hypetech[eu]gunder: it's not my code, so I'm not sure what the change is, but the version on the SVN is bricked and the one in the link works flawlessly with 2.4
22:55.19[eu]gunderok
22:56.11CIA-903ackis * r67948 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:
22:56.11CIA-9Babble-2.2:
22:56.11CIA-9-frFR update
22:57.26[eu]gundermeh i'm off farming 30c for the letter ^^
22:57.42VonhintenHOME`lol
22:57.52Yssaril[eu]gunder, look under the sofa :P
22:57.57[eu]gunderIMO mail with just text should be free
22:58.23VonhintenHOME`no way, then you'd be getting the hell spammed out of you by fresh gold spam toons
22:59.18VonhintenHOME`imo, it should cost 1g to send, and then give you back the 1g after a day or two =P
22:59.27Yssarilyep plus money sinks in an economy are needed so that you don't have rampant deflation
22:59.50[eu]gunderyeak but a 30c sink isn't quite that effective
23:00.09Yssaril[eu]gunder, every little bit helps
23:00.17VonhintenHOME`lol
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23:01.22[eu]gunderyeah wolf killing is great, the only thing greater is boar killing :(
23:01.25DashkalMake the postage based on the level of the stuff sent.  That'd work as a gold sink
23:02.07YssarilDashkal, not really sinse the higher your level the more sinks you have enchants then gems and proffessions etc
23:02.37Dashkaltrue, which is likely why they didn't bother
23:02.44Yssarilyep
23:02.57Dashkalbut at 70 inflation is showing its head anyway thanks to the proliferation of dailies
23:03.02Yssarilcurrently i think its mostly to prevent spamming
23:03.31DashkalWhich reminds me, I wonder how much the quad deathblow goggles are going to sell for
23:03.43chiperpff, postage sinks are as useless as flightmaster costs
23:03.56chiperwhen's the last time you looked at how much it costs to fly somewherE?
23:04.15chiperI dont even look at AH deposit costs anymore
23:04.19YssarilDashkal, cant really prevent inflation after a certain time cause there is not constant money sink in the game aside from durability which is not that big (unless your a MT of a raiding guild)
23:04.20DashkalI kinda of sideways noticed that the sunwell isle is 23s... then we opened our portal
23:04.27VonhintenHOME`when I'm leveling a new toon, on a new server, I look at the cost
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23:05.07DashkalTrue, and the incoming cash right now is in far excess of the available sinks.  A _bad_ repair for me is 20g... I do that in 6 minutes
23:05.43shieldbis five minutes of that waiting for the stupid bombing run flight to finish? :)
23:05.57VonhintenHOME`Actually, I think there are more sinks now than before
23:06.15VonhintenHOME`people using their badges to buy epic gems, nethers, vortexes, selling them for large amounts
23:06.18Yssarilimo flightcost is good for newbs as it helps teach them early on to plan their questing wisely and not go all over the place but then again i might just be smarter than the average newb :P
23:06.43Dashkalshieldb: How'd you guess? :p
23:07.08VonhintenHOME`Anyone who's in the sunwell, you getting many pattern drops?
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23:07.24shieldbwe've seen two studies of advanced smelting
23:07.25shieldbthat's it
23:07.31ckknightmikma: :-)
23:07.39DashkalSadly my server isn't going to find many.  I don't think any alli are in there *sighs*
23:07.43shieldbin uhh.. four kalecgos trash clears I want to say
23:07.48DashkalThe only glaives I've seen are on horde toons
23:08.01VonhintenHOME`I'm kinda wondering how long it'll be before I start seeing them on the AH
23:08.22chiperarent they BOP?
23:08.40shieldbBoP patterns make BoE gear in sunwell
23:08.45shieldbBoE patterns make BoP gear
23:08.48Arzach-DB-EUbeen there, cleared 3 times to Kalec. No pattern
23:09.10Dashkalthe engy recipies are all non-binding
23:09.11shieldbsame as tier 6 content, only it's gloves and chest instead of shoulders and bracers
23:09.28DashkalI'm expecting 2-5k when they finally start getting sold
23:10.51Dashkalmind you, much more than 3 and the cash would be better spent on gems and vortex gear so we'll see
23:11.49chiperis there anything forcing new 70s to use the old badge rewards once the new badge vendor opens up?
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23:12.02VonhintenHOME`forcing? no
23:12.04Yssarilchiper, nope
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23:12.24chiperso, basically all the old badge gear has been rendered useless
23:12.31DashkalDepends on your badge income
23:12.44[eu]gunderhypetech: message sent
23:12.46Dashkal150 is out of reach for a non-raiding guild in any reasonable amount of time
23:12.47VonhintenHOME`not all of it
23:12.58chiperthe new gear didnt look like it cost that much more
23:13.07Dashkaldouble-ish
23:13.14VonhintenHOME`The badge helm might be worth it for some
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23:13.26chiperjust doing kara and heroics I had enough badges to get everything I wanted from the old vendor in just two weeks
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23:13.41VonhintenHOME`I'm going to need about 450 badges worth of shit on my rogue
23:13.43[eu]gundergoodnight all!
23:13.48DashkalI think I need something in excess of 400 badges to get all I want.  Just not gonna happen
23:14.04EvilJohnthat's a lot of KZ runs
23:14.07Dashkalbut then, I don't raid much.  West coast in an east coast guild
23:14.11VonhintenHOME`I'm already at like 250
23:14.31VonhintenHOME`za+kara clear in a few hours is a good chunk of badges
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23:15.06chiperI think I've got 160 on my mage at the moment.  would have more, but I've been using my alts when I can
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23:16.10sag_ich_nicht[01:12] <Dashkal> 150 is out of reach for a non-raiding guild in any reasonable amount of time <--are you dumb?
23:16.15hypetechpsh
23:16.20sag_ich_nichti got like 150 badges just from kara PUGs
23:16.23sag_ich_nichtlern2pug
23:16.30chipersag: depends on what you consider "reasonable"
23:16.32Dashkalpug on Failstrom?
23:16.34Dashkalhell fucking no
23:16.36hypetech150 is like moderate heroic pugs for 2 weeks
23:16.41sag_ich_nichtalso that
23:16.44Chaudpug kara/za every week
23:16.46sag_ich_nichtjust hit heroics a lot
23:16.48sag_ich_nichtmhm
23:16.53sag_ich_nichtZA pugging isn't good
23:16.57VonhintenHOME`I have yet to pug kara with a decent group
23:17.02sag_ich_nichtyou won't down mallacras/zul'jin
23:17.08Chaudyeah, most of our pugs only get through 4 or 5 bosses =\
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23:17.10sag_ich_nichtalso
23:17.13chiperI hate pugging 5mans, no way I'd pug a raid
23:17.18sag_ich_nichtlol
23:17.20sag_ich_nichtlern2armory
23:17.23sag_ich_nichtlern2scrub
23:17.24Chaudfor real
23:17.25sag_ich_nicht1. you use Scrub
23:17.29Dashkalarmory != clue
23:17.31VonhintenHOME`I do it for fun, when I'm moonlighting my prot pally as holy...
23:17.31sag_ich_nichtif the guy is red in scrub
23:17.31Chaudkara/za are easy to pug
23:17.33hypetechwhat is scrub?
23:17.33sag_ich_nichtdon't take him
23:17.34VonhintenHOME`it always ends badly
23:17.42sag_ich_nichthttp://files.wowace.com/Scrub/Scrub.zip
23:17.46sag_ich_nichtaddon to find gimp specs
23:17.50hypetechooo
23:17.55Dashkalone too many geared out twits
23:18.00chipersag: the issue isnt just finding good players, it's often finding players at all
23:18.08sag_ich_nichti know
23:18.10sag_ich_nichtbut still
23:18.10Chaudthen you are on a bad realm =\
23:18.12chiperlow pop server
23:18.17sag_ich_nichtyou should NEVER have problems with a 5 man pug
23:18.21Chaudmine had free xfers off =\
23:18.59sag_ich_nicht10 man okay i can accept low pop server
23:19.00sag_ich_nichtbut 5 man
23:19.00sag_ich_nichtget scrub if you're too stupid to learn about all 9 classes
23:19.00Chaudor make friends =\
23:19.06Chaudand /who + armorylite
23:19.10sag_ich_nichtyeah but you'll only make friends with non-retarded idiots
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23:19.21sag_ich_nicht(yes i wrote that intentionally that way)
23:19.43chipermost of my toons have their friends lists maxed out, yet still only see 5-10 people on at a time
23:19.54Chaudso /who for the rest
23:20.03Chaudall you need is a decent tank or healer
23:20.09Chaudthen /who finds the rest
23:20.19Chaudthey need to add spec to /who =\
23:20.33Chaudand a gear score =o
23:20.45chiperI'm not going to randomly ask people to come to a group.  I'm not one of those asstards
23:20.48hypetechrecount error on newest version http://ace.pastey.net/85041
23:21.02ChaudIDK, works fine for me
23:21.14Chaudjust find people in at least kara + gear
23:21.24Chaudand tell them we are doing heroic whatever come now or die
23:21.58sag_ich_nichtchiper: you have to ask politely
23:22.05sag_ich_nichtAND look them up in the armory first
23:22.07sag_ich_nichtAND check their spec
23:22.13sag_ich_nichtAND check if they are in an instance
23:22.19sag_ich_nichtso don't use an automating addon to ask them
23:22.31chiperperhaps you guys should go into telemarketing, since you clear have no issues with unsolicited contact
23:22.35ChaudI never check spec beyond resto/feral, prot/ect, holy/fail
23:22.40chiperpersonally, I hate those fuckers
23:22.47sag_ich_nichtChaud: Scrub ftw
23:22.52sag_ich_nichti always check for gimp specs
23:22.57Chaudtoo much work, I have enough names that I know
23:22.57sag_ich_nichttells you if the guy has at least SOME clue
23:23.07Chaudsomeone with 1900 healing, I'm not checking his spec
23:23.11sag_ich_nichtyou might be suprised how many of your friends are gimps
23:23.12sag_ich_nichti am.
23:23.16Chaudor tank with ssc gear, ect
23:23.20Chaudgood enough for a heroic
23:23.20sag_ich_nichtyou have no idea into what kind of morons i've run
23:23.30sag_ich_nichthahahahaha we have a T6 feral on our server
23:23.37sag_ich_nichti'd NEVER take him into a heroic
23:23.42sag_ich_nichtnever
23:23.44Chaudwhy =\
23:23.45sag_ich_nichtand for good reason
23:23.49sag_ich_nichtbecause he can't TANK
23:23.59sag_ich_nichthe only goes HUR HUR I R KITTY HUR HUR
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23:24.27ChaudWe did heroic MTR with feral, prot pally, priest, mage, rogue =\ feral only has 2pc t6
23:24.38chiperwell obviously someone who wants to DPS isnt going to be a good tank
23:24.44sag_ich_nichtno shit
23:24.46sag_ich_nichtbut he goes all
23:24.46Primerseems IHML lacks the latest unlocked daily from isle
23:24.48sag_ich_nicht"i'll tank"
23:24.51Chaudhe is one of their MTs
23:25.00sag_ich_nichtand then he just fails it
23:25.06Chaud20k hp in bear almost unbuffed in his lolstam gear
23:25.07sag_ich_nichtthen you ask him why he didn't apply FFF
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23:25.25sag_ich_nichtor why he has fucking damage gems in his tank equip
23:25.37Chaudrofl
23:25.55sag_ich_nichthe goes all "uh i'm cat in the raid i'm doing damage in the raid mostly what the hell do you know i'm full T6"
23:25.59sag_ich_nichtfucking moron
23:26.03NeoTronto be fair.. tanking heroics in t6 gear where some pieces have +8 str or what not isn't going to be utter fail
23:26.06chiperwe had a rogue guildy come on a heroic seth halls the other night who had to be taught how to use distract
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23:26.27chiperall he ever does is PvP, doesn't know most of the PvE elements of his class
23:26.28sag_ich_nichtNeoTron: i don't give a shit about your equip if you can't play properly
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23:26.40Arrowmastera lot of feral tank gear doubles as feral dps gear
23:26.41sag_ich_nichthealers/DDs dying because you're too stupid to quickly change target and chargeß
23:26.41NeoTronin fact when I go 5-manning with our feral druid she usually puts on more than one dps piece
23:26.43sag_ich_nicht*charge?
23:26.45sag_ich_nichtNO THANKS
23:26.47chiperhad to make him add Kick to his action bar
23:26.48Chaudbut distract is used in BGs =(
23:26.54Chaudand kick
23:27.00NeoTronnot saying THAT isn't an issue
23:27.04Chaudwtf kind of pvp does he do 0o
23:27.11sag_ich_nichtKICK IS FUCKING USED IN PVP ALL THE TIME
23:27.15sag_ich_nichtwhat a fucking moron
23:27.29chiperdistract works in BGs?  what, does it force the players to turn?
23:27.49Chaud....
23:27.55NeoTronthey should make fade make people untarget you in pvp
23:28.05sag_ich_nichtthey should make taunt force-target you
23:28.10Chaudno more, I threw a game at 2k to feign death =\
23:28.17sag_ich_nichtLOL
23:28.19sag_ich_nichtmoron
23:28.21Chaudcalled a switch and the hunter wasn't dead
23:28.34ChaudHe was almost dead and FD, I thought he had died
23:28.36chipersag: yes, I've been calling for that.  I'd love it if it even went one step further and made other players vanish
23:28.37Chaudthen I see his cat
23:28.39Diaoyou can fool a lot of people with FD if you use it at the right time
23:29.00Chaudneedless to say I was replaced at the end of that season =\
23:29.18NeoTronFD is tricky
23:30.31Chaud=(
23:31.18Cryect<NeoTron> in fact when I go 5-manning with our feral druid she usually puts on more than one dps piece
23:31.29Cryectyou kinda have to put on like mainly DPS gear if you expect to hold aggro and get rage
23:31.34NeoTronright
23:31.44NeoTronin many cases its the same pieces
23:32.03CryectI still really can't hold aggro in full DPS gear just because the people I'm with often are just used to having salvation and going full out
23:32.22ChaudI think our druid that tanked the other day wore this gear, http://armorylite.com/us/gurubashi/mi
23:32.52quiescenswell you should just let people die and say you're "just used to tanking one mob at a time in order to let people go full out"
23:33.14Cryectheh well they aren't going to die either
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23:33.27Cryectunless you really leave the mob on them for a long time
23:33.29NeoTronI've tanked mobs in elite instances many a time
23:33.50NeoTron5-7k hits isn't so bad with a t6 healer :P
23:34.13NeoTronand most stuff doesn't hit THAT hard
23:35.18sicaand you can still kite mobs, we usually never tank the first focus target, all dds go all-out on it and if needed kite it a bit
23:35.36Chaudor you can heal in 90% pvp gear =(
23:37.23sag_ich_nichtDo the paused corotines use so much memory to make a problem? This could be an issue I underestimated <--NO SHIT
23:37.26sag_ich_nichtlol
23:38.01Cryecthmmm who said that?
23:39.00chiperhah, I take it armorylite's gearscore values are only based on those previously accessed through the system?
23:39.05AythCryect I like the recount2 changes ^^
23:39.12Cryectyou like close buttons :-p
23:39.23AythAlso on the details the highlighting
23:39.27Cryectgood
23:39.33Aythmakes it more intuitive and 'click here' ish
23:39.42Aythif you type /recount2 twice you get two windows though
23:39.49Cryectthats intentional
23:39.52Aythorly
23:39.56Cryectyou can do it more times if you want as well
23:40.03CIA-903mitchell * r67950 10CooldownToGo/CooldownToGo.lua: CooldownToGo: fix profiles handling, fix some issues with configuring during active display
23:40.07AythThat's actually cool if you wanna watch multiple things I suppose
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23:40.41CryectHeh most of the things I've changed since the last time you've touched it actually is performance
23:40.46Cryectabout 8x faster overall since then
23:40.57Aythya, I read the update notes... as you write plenty ^^
23:41.13Chaudchiper yeah, still fun though
23:41.17Cryectyeah I tried to be decently thorough in my commit notes
23:41.31AythIt amused me, I ran it last night for BT... picking up the npcs attacking each other from REALLY far away
23:41.35durcynCyn: pong
23:41.37Ayth(was bored)
23:41.53chiperchaud: yeah, but it kind of puts things out of proportion
23:42.27chiperespecially since very few of the people in the top guild on my realm are cached
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23:43.00Chaudso what =(
23:43.05Cynpong
23:43.06ChaudI can be high on my realm's list!
23:43.08AythReally just needs a way to reset data without reloading the ui to start getting useful data outa recount2
23:43.25CryectYeah
23:43.28CynDur: Ping
23:43.43CryectI need to go through and actually figure out everything that needs resetting
23:44.03CIA-903mitchell * r67951 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.lua localizations/localization-enUS.lua): RangeDisplay: fixed profiles handling, added out-of-range color and free-form suffix setting
23:44.05AythYa... I glanced at the code to see if it would be easy to hack a reset... and decided to wait ;)
23:44.49NeoTronhehe looking at a particularily crazh brutalls attempt where I did >2400 DPS
23:45.01AythAre you a BM hunter?
23:45.06NeoTronmy last 10 seconds alive I did abotu 4200 DPS
23:45.08NeoTronI am a warlock
23:45.14AythAh, that woulda been my second guess
23:45.22NeoTronI pulled aggro and got wtfpwned
23:45.22Ellipsishunters do damage?
23:45.38NeoTronEllipsis: durcyn linked a WWS with a hunter doing 2400 DPS on a Brutallus kill
23:45.39Aythour bm hunters push 2700 frequently actually
23:45.52Ellipsisdurcyn's a liar
23:45.53NeoTronI had like 50% crit rate in that attempt
23:46.00NeoTronnot normal
23:46.10NeoTronalso I don't have my 4xT6 set bonus yet
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23:46.24Aythwe feed a bm hunter hero's for a longer fight and he almost broke 3k =p
23:46.28Cyni want my 4pc
23:46.35Cyn:(
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23:46.58NeoTronwithout heroism or any noticeable melee dmg buff (except sunder armor) our hunters did around 1700ish DPS on brutallus
23:47.04NeoTronwe didn't use any consumables or anything though
23:47.12Aythno consumes... on brut?
23:47.19NeoTronAyth: problem 1) live
23:47.25AythI suppose
23:47.35NeoTrononce we get close to living 6 minutes it's worth for (dps) to use food and drums and stuff
23:47.40NeoTronif we only live 3 minutes, it's pointless
23:47.50NeoTronget got him to 60% at the 3 minute mark
23:47.52AythYa... we didn't consume heavy (besides flasks) until we died to enrage
23:48.13Aythafter that my destruction pot supply dwindled quickly
23:48.21ckknighthow large can ssh pubkeys be?
23:48.31NeoTronwould be using mana pots.
23:48.50Aythspriest + resto shaman imo ;)
23:49.01Arrowmasterckknight: since the comment is part of the pub key.... ummm no clue look it up
23:49.29AythI'm an spriest though... I dunno what it's like to run out of mana
23:49.31NeoTronhave a SP but still run OOM
23:49.33Arrowmasterwho the fuck made a LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0
23:49.43NeoTronwarlocks lose a lot of dps to life tap
23:49.57ckknightArrowmaster: well, besides the comment part
23:49.59NeoTrondespire moronic comments that "warlocks have infinite mana" and stuff like that
23:50.01quiescensas opposed to just running out of mana?
23:50.02Chaudmaybe those newb locks that cast spells
23:50.09Chaudpro locks dot and stand there
23:50.14durcynfirestone 4 lyfe
23:50.17mykxNeoTron yep its a nice boost when you get spriest :P
23:50.18Chaudrofl
23:50.49NeoTron1SP = 250-275 DPS per warlock
23:51.07CIA-903ackis * r67953 10CraftList2/ (. CraftList2.lua CraftList2.toc):
23:51.07CIA-9CraftList2:
23:51.07CIA-9- ToC bump
23:51.07CIA-9- Removed Babble Tradeskill 2.2 references
23:51.11NeoTronquiescens: thing is, a warlock goes OOM in like 50-60 seconds
23:51.22sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster: some guy from the AtlasLoot corner
23:51.24sicahm, we have only one shadowpriest at the moment, usually in the caster group (2 mages, 1 ele, 1 balance)
23:51.26sag_ich_nichtclearly he is a moron
23:51.28sag_ich_nicht:>
23:51.35Arrowmasterwe should svn del it
23:51.37NeoTronsica: SP benefits warlocks a lot more than mages
23:51.56NeoTronas does additional crit >:-)
23:51.56Chaudrofl, some guy from a dead realm posted in our realm forums asking for xfers, and spelled his realm's name wrong
23:52.09sag_ich_nichtlmao
23:52.19ChaudHe is also a male BE priest.
23:52.20NeoTronthe benefit of being a warlock raid leader is that I can treat warlock properly in raids
23:52.30mykx^ wtb
23:52.32Arrowmasterckknight: you should svn del LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0 and tell the AtlasLoot guys to fucking learn to use the wow api
23:52.54Aythwell, sunwell time... time to turn off recount2 and turn on recount1 =p
23:53.01mykxNeoTron you guys get kalecgos down yet?
23:53.05NeoTronyep
23:53.09mykxgood good
23:53.13sag_ich_nichtstill in MH :/
23:53.16NeoTronchange of strategy helped
23:53.25mykxwe're doing hyjal now to gear up a lil more for brut
23:53.30NeoTron20 wipes on brut :P
23:53.33mitchnulllua "A":strlower()
23:53.40AythWe did 50 wipes on brut before we downed him lol
23:53.40NeoTronwe'll likely do BT and perhaps hyjal tonight/sunday
23:53.43mykxwe haven't attempted him yet but wws parses show we dont quite have the dps
23:53.49sicaNeoTron: uhm, yeah, I as the shadowpriest would also replace the mages by warlocks, more crit, more isb on the mob <3, and our warlocks aren't hitcapped, so the profit more from the elemental shaman
23:53.53NeoTronour best attempt was 21000 dps
23:53.55mitchnull~purl luabot
23:53.56purlit has been said that luabot is disabled in infobot, please send requests in #luabot or private message
23:53.58NeoTronwe need 7-8k more
23:54.11NeoTronbut as I said, groups were bad
23:54.25NeoTronmissed two good rogues (broken comp and vacation) no ret pally, no dps warrior
23:54.32NeoTron3 hunters where one was amazingly subpar
23:54.39NeoTronlike 1350 DPS BM hunter
23:54.44NeoTrondon't understand how it's even possibl
23:54.45Ayththat's... impressivly bad
23:54.55sicao.O
23:54.56Aythwas his pet standing next to him?
23:55.08NeoTronno but his pet was doing a lot less damage than the other hunters
23:55.15ckknightlua> ("A"):lower()
23:55.15sicahe was probably afk and just autoshooting
23:55.15lua_botckknight: a
23:55.19ckknightmitchnull: ^---
23:55.31mitchnullckk: thanks ;)
23:55.32mykxwell you know that the survival hunter is buffing the shit out of the other hunters while perhaps not doing the best dps himself
23:55.48NeoTronclaims 1) pet too far away from kill command, 2) macro issue
23:56.09quiescens3) afk
23:56.29sicamykx: not only the other hunters, all melees, he does only around 1300dps -.-
23:56.55NeoTron4) not coming to our next attempt
23:56.58mykxah sorry I play a warlock didn't know they buffed everything
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23:57.20NeoTronwe had a surv hunter pull 1700 DPS
23:57.21sicabut our raidleader (enh. shaman) claims the dps-increase for all melees is at least 400-500dps
23:57.35EvilJohnhe's on crack
23:57.37CIA-903yleaf * r67954 10WitchHunt/locales/ (zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): WitchHunt: zhTW & zhCN update
23:57.43AythHmm, on our kill, our bm hunters did around 2250, while the survival did 2k
23:57.50sicawell, our surv. hunter plays on a 386 or something like that, he has ALWAYS lags
23:57.54kenlyriccheck how much aimed shot they're doing
23:58.46NeoTronAyth: how?
23:58.53AythHow what
23:58.55NeoTronseriously how does your physical dpsers do so much dps?
23:59.09AythGroup comp? consumes?
23:59.10NeoTronI haven't seen a fight where my physical DPS is consistently >2000 dps
23:59.10Aythhttp://wowwebstats.com/qccshavltlxms?s=13753-14124
23:59.31CIA-903ackis * r67955 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua:
23:59.31CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
23:59.32CIA-9-Enchanting Update
23:59.49AythI won't lie... our hunters are geared to the teeth
23:59.50mykxwell glaives against a demon look nice on wws but you dont need em to do >2k with a rogue

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