IRC log for #wowace on 20080409

`00:00.11`	`Ackis`	`licks Chaud.`
`00:01.12`	`Chaud`	`ackis carry guru to the badge vendor faster =(`
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`00:04.31`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68681 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua:`
`00:04.31`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`00:04.31`	`CIA-39`	`- Added missing localization wheeeeeee`
`00:05.03`	`kadrahil`	`vithos`
`00:05.14`	`kadrahil`	`or any hunters fighting brutalis`
`00:05.28`	`kadrahil`	`i may have a chance getting in a good guild that needs a survival hunter`
`00:05.56`	`kadrahil`	`what kind of agi do i need unbuffed for that level of a fight?`
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`00:08.47`	`Dranor`	`i don't understand who can stand the survival rotations`
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`00:10.17`	`Dranor`	`steady shot-kc is so easy...`
`00:10.26`	`vithos`	`kadrahil: survival can be worth it even without optimized gear for it, i don't know an exact number or how many physical dps`
`00:10.46`	`vithos`	`but when i did the numbers for my BM gear it was a raid dps increase even without regemming`
`00:11.07`	`vithos`	`Dranor: there's a macro for 1:1.x rotation too`
`00:11.18`	`Dranor`	`i don't like macros`
`00:11.25`	`vithos`	`gl then.`
`00:11.37`	`vithos`	`no way i'd even consider survival without a macro`
`00:11.43`	`vithos`	`i'd rather gamequit`
`00:11.59`	`kadrahil`	`yeah`
`00:12.26`	`Dranor`	`they're tricky and don't understand about latency or forceful position changes`
`00:12.35`	`vithos`	`you lose so much dps for the times that clientside your gcd is up and you can cast, then after network latency * 2 you get a message from the server saying LOL U CANT CAST YET`
`00:12.39`	`kadrahil`	`vithos: only thing is my gear is a little weak`
`00:12.47`	`kadrahil`	`vithos: i only have about 600 agi atm in pve gear`
`00:13.00`	`vithos`	`i have 679 agi as BM right now`
`00:13.05`	`vithos`	`unbuffed`
`00:13.08`	`kadrahil`	`ah`
`00:13.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hey`
`00:13.43`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`anyone here with an 2wire router? :>`
`00:13.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and ATT? :>`
`00:13.49`	`Dranor`	`i got better results as a bm without a macro rather than with`
`00:14.10`	`Dashkal`	`I would suggest not admitting to that combination of ISP/router...`
`00:14.27`	`vithos`	`Dranor: try it with 5/5 imp hawk and a dragonspine trophy, and see if you don't kill yourself`
`00:14.56`	`Dranor`	`you got the point there`
`00:15.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Dashkal: i just wanted to forward their google.com to last measure :(`
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`00:15.33`	Funkeh`	`sag_ich_nicht, I just looked over the najentus code, /say should work fine`
`00:15.44`	`kadrahil`	`vithos: oh well, they wanted someone with better gear ;(`
`00:16.00`	`Dashkal`	`except perhaps if they author a mod you use that has a bug that annoys you? :p`
`00:16.09`	Funkeh`	`maybe your raid members need to update, or turned it off`
`00:16.43`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68682 10RBM_TrapWatch/Traps.lua:`
`00:16.43`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_TrapWatch:`
`00:16.43`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix problem with tracking other hunters traps.`
`00:16.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	Funkeh`: i wasn't talking about say
`00:16.49`	`vithos`	`kadrahil: :(`
`00:16.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	Funkeh`: i was talking about the raidwarning
`00:17.09`	Funkeh`	`oh who has the spine?`
`00:17.11`	Funkeh`	`should work too`
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`00:17.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i only get a raidwarning if a raidmember with bigwigs installed gets the spine`
`00:17.33`	Funkeh`	`lol wtf`
`00:17.38`	Funkeh`	`I think that's coincidence`
`00:17.46`	Funkeh`	`has nothing to do with haing bigwigs installed`
`00:17.53`	Funkeh`	`and that particular ability is not synced`
`00:17.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that's why i'm wondering`
`00:18.08`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`because it was kind of annoying`
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`00:18.38`	Funkeh`	`I could venture a guess`
`00:18.43`	Funkeh`	`that theres 2 spell ids for spine`
`00:19.10`	Funkeh`	`wowhead only lists one it seems`
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`00:19.21`	`Nandini`	`tons of things have multiple spell ids, sometimes one spell has a spell effect that triggers a second one of the same name`
`00:19.40`	Funkeh`	`Nandini, I'm aware, unfortunately`
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`00:19.56`	`Nandini`	`wowhead should be complete tho, it takes everything directly from the dbc files for spells, so if it's not listed there, there must only be one`
`00:20.13`	`CIA-39`	`03funkydude * r68683 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Najentus: tweak`
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`00:25.51`	`Nandini`	`grr </3 astrolabe`
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`00:31.32`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: I can get you a list of all the spells/ids if you're interested
`00:31.56`	Funkeh`	`pastamancer, 'all'?`
`00:32.05`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: everything in Spell.dbc
`00:32.25`	Funkeh`	`sure`
`00:32.33`	Funkeh`	`Isn't that basically wowhead though?`
`00:32.36`	`pastamancer`	`want the perl scripts or just the list?`
`00:32.39`	`pastamancer`	`yeah, basically`
`00:32.42`	Funkeh`	`just the list`
`00:32.47`	Funkeh`	`infact, btoh`
`00:32.51`	Funkeh`	`both*`
`00:35.57`	`Yssaril`	`pastamancer, is that spell/id list publicly available somewhere?`
`00:36.11`	`dylanm`	`Well, wowhead.`
`00:36.12`	`pastamancer`	`http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/spells/`
`00:36.16`	`dylanm`	`Unless I misunderstand.`
`00:36.42`	`Yssaril`	`dylanm, lol something in a more readable format :) thanks pastamancer`
`00:36.51`	`pastamancer`	`provide your own Spell.dbc if you want to re-generate the list`
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`00:37.27`	`dylanm`	`This is some good perl.`
`00:39.13`	`pastamancer`	`dylanm: :)`
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`00:40.24`	`Yssaril`	`now one last noob question where is my spelldbc located and how do i get it?`
`00:40.42`	Funkeh`	`pastamancer, thanks`
`00:40.59`	Funkeh`	`Yssaril, you need to extract it with e toolz`
`00:41.06`	Funkeh`	`ze`
`00:41.13`	Funkeh`	`url escapes me`
`00:42.02`	`pastamancer`	`it's in Data/enUS/patch-enUS.MPQ the path inside the mpq is DBFilesClient/Spell.dbc`
`00:42.09`	`pastamancer`	`replace enUS with your locale of course`
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`00:45.52`	`Aiiane`	`Antiarc around?`
`00:46.03`	`Antiarc`	`I am asleep`
`00:46.07`	`Antiarc`	`Also, AFK`
`00:46.07`	`Aiiane`	`liar :P`
`00:46.09`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`00:46.23`	`Aiiane`	`are you aware of any issues regarding Overview mode in omen?`
`00:46.25`	`Antiarc`	`I am a highly advanced autoresponder script designed to answer your questions while my creator is away. How may I assist you?`
`00:46.31`	`JJSheets`	`puts Antiarc's sleeping hand in a bucket of water.`
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`00:46.47`	`Antiarc`	`Overview mode is buggy as hell :P`
`00:46.53`	`Aiiane`	`kk :P`
`00:46.59`	`Antiarc`	`But it's low priority since it's icing, rather than a core view`
`00:50.38`	`Ironhand`	`is it possible using the buff/debuff module in Quartz to show the number of stacks of a certain (de)buff?`
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`00:52.40`	`CIA-39`	`03cronan * r68684 10scorchio/core.lua:`
`00:52.40`	`CIA-39`	`scorchio:`
`00:52.40`	`CIA-39`	`- Use spellId instaed of spellName.`
`00:52.40`	`CIA-39`	`- Possible bug fix on sync.`
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`00:58.57`	Funkeh`	`what good tv shows are on these days`
`00:59.00`	`sylvanaar`	`as far as i am concerned blizz memory measurement tool has a bug, and is showing increased memory use for certain types of code. that post i made is driving me nuts, I want to know if there is an explaination or not`
`00:59.01`	Funkeh`	`it seems everything has stopped`
`00:59.34`	`Kurax`	`http://pic.yupoo.com/geuro/0169055d253b/medium/ Xinhuan I found your ID card! =p`
`00:59.35`	`Jaxon`	Funkeh`: Battlestar Galactica
`00:59.44`	`sylvanaar`	`BSG ftw!`
`00:59.44`	`Chaud`	`that just started again didn't it?`
`00:59.51`	`Jaxon`	`On the 4th`
`00:59.54`	`sylvanaar`	`yes it did`
`01:00.00`	`Chaud`	`I guess I should d/l that and watch it =D`
`01:00.00`	Funkeh`	`oh goodie`
`01:00.08`	Funkeh`	`I was _really_ depressed with nothing to watch`
`01:00.13`	Funkeh`	`everything has stopped`
`01:00.21`	`Jaxon`	`Ironhand: it does by default. I can see Deadly Poison stacks and such.`
`01:00.22`	Funkeh`	`givf heroes, terminator, stargate something`
`01:00.23`	`sylvanaar`	`the first episode is awesome`
`01:00.33`	`Chaud`	`heroes / stargate pl0x.`
`01:00.46`	`sylvanaar`	`friday cant come soon enough`
`01:00.48`	`Chaud`	`I watched numb3rs yesterday`
`01:00.51`	Funkeh`	`just one episode of s4 in BSG so far?`
`01:00.55`	`sylvanaar`	`yes`
`01:00.58`	`sdouble`	`[18:53] <Daemona> goddamn sdouble thats worse than my ui -.- <-- not mine, it was a link showing someone's raidframes.`
`01:01.00`	`sylvanaar`	`its a 2 parter`
`01:01.04`	`Jaxon`	Funkeh`: yeah, but if you haven't seen the first three seasons...
`01:01.09`	`sylvanaar`	`f-ing cliffhangers`
`01:01.28`	Funkeh`	`Jaxon, meh`
`01:01.31`	`Chaud`	`I watched the 1st/3rd of BSG =p`
`01:01.33`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, if you havent seen seasons 1-3, watch them first`
`01:01.42`	`Chaud`	`skipped most of the 2nd`
`01:01.53`	`sylvanaar`	`half of season 2 is boring`
`01:02.52`	`Chaud`	`what ever happened to 24`
`01:03.03`	Funkeh`	`ok`
`01:03.05`	Funkeh`	`got s1 2 and 3`
`01:03.11`	Funkeh`	`gonna take a while;p`
`01:03.34`	`sylvanaar`	`it is worth it`
`01:03.39`	`Chaud`	`I did a marathon of all of heroes a few months ago because I had never watched it`
`01:03.50`	`Chaud`	`didn't leave the house during the weekend I tihnk`
`01:04.11`	`sylvanaar`	`i marathoned bsg 1,2,3 last week in prep for season 4`
`01:04.19`	Funkeh`	`give heroes s3 already`
`01:04.32`	`sylvanaar`	`its season 2 volume 2`
`01:04.49`	`durcyn`	`BSG s4 imo`
`01:04.57`	Funkeh`	`hmm? the end of the latest episode opened up with volume 3`
`01:05.07`	`sylvanaar`	`huh`
`01:05.18`	Funkeh`	`heroes`
`01:05.23`	`sylvanaar`	`is it on again?`
`01:05.27`	Funkeh`	`no`
`01:05.39`	`sylvanaar`	`i thought it said end volume 1`
`01:05.43`	`sylvanaar`	`oh well`
`01:05.44`	`CIA-39`	`03kurax * r68685 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: Update zhCN locale`
`01:05.46`	`CIA-39`	`03jjsheets * r68686 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua IB_Main.lua InfiniBar-2.0.toc): InfiniBar-2.0 - Added Preliminary ButtonFacade button skinning support. Still need to make Skinning Options available in the GUI yet.`
`01:05.55`	Funkeh`	`but with the end of s1 they opened up volume 2, then the end of s2 they opened up vol 3`
`01:06.01`	Funkeh`	`both on the final episodes`
`01:06.08`	Funkeh`	`so I gussed vol 3 would be s3`
`01:06.16`	`sylvanaar`	`i'll buy it`
`01:06.31`	`sylvanaar`	`they need to hurry with that!`
`01:07.06`	`CIA-39`	`03ananhaid * r68687 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua:`
`01:07.06`	`CIA-39`	`BigWigs:`
`01:07.06`	`CIA-39`	`- zhCN uodate.`
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`01:09.18`	`JJSheets`	`is away: Dinner`
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`01:11.09`	`starlon`	`Does querying the server for an unknown item not disconnect you anymore?`
`01:12.04`	`Chaud`	`it did so for me in 2.4`
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`01:12.23`	`Chaud`	`open atlas loot and d/c =(`
`01:12.37`	`MentalPower`	`it shouldn't`
`01:12.47`	`luxus`	`hi`
`01:12.50`	`starlon`	`I tried a few of Brut's items. Some didn't return anything but I didn't get dc'd`
`01:12.59`	`vithos`	`it will disconnect you after querying X unknown items in Y seconds`
`01:13.02`	`luxus`	`is there any good tutorials when i want to start with lua?`
`01:13.05`	`starlon`	`ah`
`01:13.06`	`Chaud`	`ahh`
`01:13.20`	`Chaud`	`Atlasloot failed me again =(`
`01:13.42`	`starlon`	`~pil`
`01:13.42`	`purl`	`Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.`
`01:14.17`	`luxus`	`thanks :D`
`01:14.20`	`[eu]gunder`	`you can still be d/c just click repeatedly on a non valid item`
`01:14.47`	`[eu]gunder`	`or try enabling the whole table lookup`
`01:14.56`	`Chaud`	`yeah, I did that =\`
`01:15.54`	`Megalon`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?search=kill+bunny blizzard forces players to kill bunnies, disgusting!`
`01:16.16`	`Chaud`	`the simon says bunny msgs are showing up now =\`
`01:16.22`	`Chaud`	`hella annoying as it spams my sct`
`01:17.27`	`sylvanaar`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784399955&postId=57836801005&sid=1#0`
`01:18.20`	`CIA-39`	`03funkydude * r68688 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Felmyst.lua Muru.lua Twins.lua): BigWigs: utf fixes`
`01:18.23`	`sylvanaar`	`still looking for an explaination on the memory use if anyone wants to take a stab at it`
`01:22.25`	`CIA-39`	`03wang * r68689 10FishermansFriend/ (FishermansFriend.toc locales/zhCN.lua): FishermansFriend: zhCN added`
`01:23.29`	`vithos`	`LibDogTag-3.0 is using "57%" cpu in raid combat according to ResourceTools :(`
`01:24.53`	`vithos`	`21 seconds of cpu in one trash pull`
`01:25.07`	`kergoth`	`yow`
`01:25.13`	`dylanm`	`Did it slow you down?`
`01:25.25`	`vithos`	`yeah.`
`01:25.46`	`vithos`	`completely unplayable with profiling on`
`01:25.59`	`vithos`	`but without profiling on it's still pretty detrimental`
`01:26.46`	`vithos`	`takes me about 50% of a mobs health before i can get something targetted, then i get like 5 frames rendered before it dies lol`
`01:26.50`	`vithos`	`with profiling on`
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`01:34.24`	`haste`	`uhm okey`
`01:34.31`	`haste`	`I play with profiling on all the time`
`01:34.59`	`vithos`	`really?`
`01:35.02`	`haste`	`yes`
`01:35.14`	`haste`	`only time I get what you said is when I also compile webkit or something in the background`
`01:36.25`	`haste`	`you might have some insane amount of add-ons however`
`01:36.40`	`vithos`	`i do`
`01:36.59`	`vithos`	`do you use pitbull?`
`01:37.15`	`haste`	`no`
`01:37.17`	`CIA-39`	`03cronan * r68690 10scorchio/core.lua:`
`01:37.17`	`CIA-39`	`scorchio:`
`01:37.17`	`CIA-39`	`- Change current target bar color to red (credit: Sent)`
`01:37.26`	`dylanm`	`haste uses the frames he made I assume :p`
`01:37.44`	`haste`	`nods.`
`01:37.45`	`vithos`	`reasonable.`
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`01:38.49`	`luxus`	`i think i will switch away from pitbull again`
`01:38.53`	`luxus`	`it feels slow`
`01:39.10`	`luxus`	`but i wonder if its slow why so much people use it?`
`01:39.41`	`Jaxon`	`It "feels" slow?`
`01:40.20`	`Nandini`	`it's popular because it can be configured to appear almost any way the user wants, and unit frames are one thing most people are picky about when it comes to appearance`
`01:40.29`	`luxus`	`yeah i allways have the feeling that my interface is more laggy if i install the librock stuff :(`
`01:41.02`	`Nandini`	`feelings can be misleading, especially if you're not a jedi knight :)`
`01:41.09`	`luxus`	`hehe`
`01:41.20`	`Jaxon`	`This is definitely credible feedback. If no one told you that Rock was the framework behind more than a few mods you probably use, you'd have nothing to blame your "feelings" on.`
`01:41.34`	`vithos`	`i'll have to try oUF tomorrow`
`01:42.08`	`dylanm`	`I hope you know Lua.`
`01:42.20`	`contego`	`only thin i miss in pitbull is the bigger buffs (own) and cooldowncount like its possible to have with X perl`
`01:42.23`	`luxus`	`i just use librock`
`01:42.31`	`luxus`	`for`
`01:42.39`	`luxus`	`upps sry .. just for pitbull`
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`01:43.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`contego: what have cooldowns got to do with unitframes? oO those belong on actionbars`
`01:43.23`	`luxus`	`but i do not found any unit frames that's make me happy`
`01:43.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`contego: also, it should be pretty easy to scale buffs bigger on the "player" unitframe`
`01:44.08`	`luxus`	`i want party targets ... and x-perl looks me too "funky"`
`01:44.37`	`luxus`	`Gnarfoz: he want only his own debuffs on target bigger`
`01:44.50`	`kergoth`	`the ace3 aguf isnt bad`
`01:44.58`	`kergoth`	`still has a couple little bugs and ag hasnt ben working on it lately though`
`01:45.01`	`kergoth`	`so i'm back to pitbull for now`
`01:45.09`	`doc^blup`	`i was reading that racial bash in the us forum and it got flat out deleted :(`
`01:45.13`	`contego`	`if you have used X-Perl and enabled the option "show own buffs bigger" youd know what i mean.`
`01:45.30`	`Gnarfoz`	`you could also explain it, because I haven't`
`01:45.46`	`contego`	`and for the cooldown, waht i mean is that if say you put a dot on the mob. you see the tiemr tick on the buff on the unitframe.`
`01:45.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`but I guess luxus did that for you, if that is actually what you meant :)`
`01:46.18`	`luxus`	`contego: underhood support this feature`
`01:46.33`	`luxus`	`after i request it :D`
`01:47.07`	`contego`	`ok, ill need to check that one out then`
`01:47.20`	`luxus`	`kergoth: did you know if aguf still have the bug that the partytargets show in raid even the party frames are hidden?`
`01:47.34`	`kergoth`	`it does, thats the biggest thing tha tmade me switch back to pitbull :(`
`01:47.36`	`luxus`	`contego: but it is a Hud not a unitframe`
`01:47.42`	`kergoth`	`little frames lfoating out in the middle of nowhere = bad`
`01:47.55`	`luxus`	`why in the hell nobody fix it? :(`
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`01:48.03`	`contego`	`still its new for me. so i need to take a look at it`
`01:48.06`	`luxus`	`it can't be so hard..`
`01:48.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`luxus: you go ahead and fix it`
`01:48.19`	`kergoth`	`probably isnt, havent looked at it`
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`01:49.16`	`luxus`	`kergoth: funny.. for me it was the same reason to switch back to pitbull :D`
`01:49.23`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`01:49.31`	`kergoth`	`it has a couple other quirks, but thats the big one`
`01:49.51`	`vithos`	`i just disabled pitbull and my fps doesn't suck now.`
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`01:51.02`	`Jaxon`	`vithos: what were your dogtags and enabled modules?`
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`01:52.24`	`vithos`	`mostly defaults, minus the fading, rangecheck, castbars, threat`
`01:53.18`	`vithos`	`no portrait, spark, banzai, or combattext either`
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`01:57.26`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68692 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua ARLLocals-koKR.lua):`
`01:57.26`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`01:57.26`	`CIA-39`	`- locale fix sorry ;)`
`01:57.26`	`CIA-39`	`- Update locale koKR`
`01:57.26`	`CIA-39`	`03wang * r68691 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua:`
`01:57.26`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`01:57.28`	`CIA-39`	`-more zhCN local`
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`02:07.33`	`Halcyon`	`anybody know of a document with examples on how to use config?`
`02:07.41`	`Halcyon`	`trying to get up to speed`
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`02:12.28`	`Dashkal`	`alrighty, time to work on this new grid status code`
`02:12.37`	`CIA-39`	`03kurax * r68693 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: Update zhCN locale`
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`02:14.02`	`Dashkal`	`pastamancer: I think it works. One syntax error fixed and the thing showed up on /rl`
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`02:18.15`	`CIA-39`	`03antiarc * r68694 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Mage.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-2.0: Add Shade of Aran and Priestess Delrissa's crew to the threat-blacklisted mob IDs. Add :IsMobBlacklisted(guid) for consumption by UIs.`
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`02:23.39`	`aestil`	`can i get a pitbull profile from my rogue on one server to be exactly the same for a shadow priest on another server?`
`02:23.46`	`pastamancer`	`Dashkal: nice`
`02:24.01`	`Dashkal`	`Had one more small syntax in the raid code and it worked flawlessly`
`02:24.07`	`Dashkal`	`I wonder what I was doing wrong...`
`02:24.18`	`Dashkal`	`Tweaking the toc now and getting ready to commit`
`02:24.29`	`pastamancer`	`perhaps rosterlib hadn't added the units yet shrug`
`02:24.52`	`Dashkal`	`Mebbe. I wasn't directly using rosterlib, guess I had to`
`02:25.23`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68695 10FishermansFriend/locales/koKR.lua:`
`02:25.23`	`CIA-39`	`FishermansFriend :`
`02:25.23`	`CIA-39`	`- Update locale koKR`
`02:25.26`	`pastamancer`	`grid relies on it pretty heavily`
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`02:25.37`	`pastamancer`	`coming from squishy and detox`
`02:25.55`	`Dashkal`	`nods`
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`02:26.31`	`Dashkal`	`Oops, I have the most difficult bit of all to settle first... default colors`
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`02:27.28`	`pastamancer`	`at some point I need to go through and redo all the default settings in grid... I'm not looking forward to it`
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`02:27.50`	`Dashkal`	`ouch`
`02:28.25`	`Dashkal`	`Eh, I think this'll work. Party leader -> light blue. Raid leader -> Default raid channel brown. Raid assist - Yellow. ML -> white`
`02:30.13`	`Diao`	`for chat?`
`02:30.55`	`Dashkal`	`pastamancer: One thing... GridStatusParty debuf is defaulting to on for some reason...`
`02:31.47`	`pastamancer`	`Dashkal: yeah, I set it in the defaultDB`
`02:31.54`	`pastamancer`	`might want to take that out :p`
`02:32.00`	`Dashkal`	`aha, there it is`
`02:32.01`	`Shirik`	`anyone know of a quick way to delete the SV data for ora2?`
`02:32.05`	`Dashkal`	`nuked`
`02:32.08`	`Dashkal`	`ok, time to commit`
`02:33.31`	`CIA-39`	`03dashkal * r68696 10GridStatusParty/ (5 files in 2 dirs): GridStatusParty: Adds status indicators for party flags (Party leader, Raid leader, Raid assist, Master looter)`
`02:33.54`	`Dashkal`	`Thank you very much, pastamancer. That would be my first visible release`
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`02:39.27`	`Antiarc`	`Shirik: /run oRA:ResetDB()`
`02:39.27`	`Antiarc`	`And reload`
`02:39.44`	`CIA-39`	`03dashkal * r68697 10GridStatusParty/ (. LICENSE.TXT): GridStatusParty: Added LICENSE.TXT`
`02:40.24`	`Shirik`	`<3`
`02:41.25`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68698 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua:`
`02:41.25`	`CIA-39`	`GatherMate:`
`02:41.25`	`CIA-39`	`- Update locale koKR`
`02:41.50`	`pastamancer`	`flees`
`02:42.38`	`Dashkal`	`heh. direct any complaints to me. I wanted it, I get to support the thing`
`02:42.53`	`JJSheets`	`Dashkal, have fun! :p`
`02:43.24`	`Dashkal`	`snickers If I can't handle supporting something that simple, I have no business writing the bigger mods I have in the pope`
`02:43.25`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68699 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua:`
`02:43.25`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`02:43.25`	`CIA-39`	`- All BS recipes 300 or lower converted to Spell IDs`
`02:43.26`	`Dashkal`	`pipe*`
`02:43.43`	`JJSheets`	`lol you have mods in the pope. :p`
`02:43.49`	`Shirik`	`hey Antiarc`
`02:43.57`	`Shirik`	`is there any chance we can get omens healer mode to recognize CT?`
`02:44.00`	`Dashkal`	`I cannot seem to type what I'm thinking tonight`
`02:45.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`Shirik: ct-what?`
`02:45.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`Shirik: it's already aware of oRA MTs, and those should be the same as CT, at least I didn't hear of oRA <> CT interoperability being broken`
`02:45.50`	`Shirik`	`ctraids tank setup`
`02:46.00`	`Shirik`	`hm, doesnt seem to work for me`
`02:46.03`	`Shirik`	`just a blank screen`
`02:46.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`are they set? :>`
`02:46.20`	`Shirik`	`yeah, we reset them before every boss :/`
`02:46.55`	`Aiiane`	`hnn`
`02:46.56`	`Aiiane`	`*hmm`
`02:47.13`	`Aiiane`	`Antiarc, any possibility to make a "buffer" on the > Pull Aggro < bar`
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`02:47.20`	`Gnarfoz`	`tried blizz MTs, to see if it's actually working at all, Shirik?`
`02:47.26`	`Aiiane`	`so that it waits a second or so to drop when the mob's target changes?`
`02:47.27`	`Shirik`	`sec`
`02:47.32`	`Cryect`	`don't you have to be running oRA for Omen to get them from oRA?`
`02:47.38`	`Aiiane`	`it's annoying on mobs that do a random-target ability and then go back to their tank`
`02:47.46`	`Aiiane`	`to have the aggro bar flashing off and then back on again`
`02:47.50`	`Cryect`	`or does it read the messages?`
`02:48.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[04:18] <CIA-39> antiarc * r68694 Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Mage.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-2.0: Add Shade of Aran and Priestess Delrissa's crew to the threat-blacklisted mob IDs. Add :IsMobBlacklisted(guid) for consumption by UIs. <--uhm, Shade of Aran DOES use an aggro list, if you kick all 3 of his spells he goes back to normal aggro list based aggro Antiarc`
`02:48.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`Cryect: I dunno how it does it, that could well be`
`02:48.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(and melees)`
`02:49.27`	`Cryect`	`Yeah thats strange that you blacklist Shade of Aran`
`02:49.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`sag_ich_nicht: he just melees his current spell target, and he also switches randomly while meleeing, so, no, not really :\`
`02:49.34`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`really?`
`02:49.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`weird`
`02:49.40`	`Cryect`	`no he melees his highest aggro in the past`
`02:49.46`	`CIA-39`	`03antiarc * r68700 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Add the Illhoof imps to the threat calc blacklist`
`02:49.58`	`Cryect`	`we could completely control who he meleed originally by having a tank generating aggro on him if we completely locked him out`
`02:50.08`	`Antiarc`	`sag_ich_nicht: Threat's pretty irrelevant to execution of the encounter, from every strat I've ever seen`
`02:50.19`	`Cryect`	`But why blacklist threat on him?`
`02:50.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`not 100% sure, not been to kara in a while, but rogue heavy raids back then sure felt like that, before everyone got it in their heads to not kick AM (because it's worthless to do so)`
`02:50.26`	`Antiarc`	`He uses an aggro list, but threat meters are more confusing than helpful on him`
`02:50.28`	`Cryect`	`this isn't some huge performance saving I can see`
`02:50.48`	`Dark_Elf`	`dang just got done downloading that and there it is again hehe`
`02:50.54`	`Antiarc`	`No huge performance savings for Aran, no`
`02:50.57`	`Antiarc`	`Illhoof, yes ;)`
`02:51.05`	`vithos`	`isn't AoE mode what stuff like illhoof's imps is for? (i haven't used it)`
`02:51.13`	`Aiiane`	`Antiarc, did you see my question?`
`02:51.18`	`Antiarc`	`Aiiane: I didn't`
`02:51.25`	`vithos`	`i mean.. illhoofs imps.. what AoE mode is for..`
`02:51.25`	`exor674`	`vithos: you know who the imps are beating on`
`02:51.28`	`exor674`	`the warlock :P`
`02:51.30`	`Antiarc`	`vithos: Well, Hyjal, really`
`02:51.46`	`Aiiane`	`basically, can you add a soft buffer to the > Pull Aggro < line`
`02:51.53`	`Antiarc`	`Aiiane: Elaborate?`
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`02:52.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`exor674: the paladin, you meant? :>`
`02:52.07`	`Antiarc`	`But the number of imps in the encounter makes comms for threat extremely prohibitive there, that I'm not sure that it's really valuable to see if you have aggro on one or not`
`02:52.19`	`Antiarc`	`Because it's not like you can stop AOEing, or there's a tank that's assigned to control them`
`02:52.23`	`Aiiane`	`so that for extremely brief aggro switches (such as mob instant abilities before switching back to tank), it just stays constant`
`02:52.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`ugh`
`02:52.29`	`Antiarc`	`Aiiane: It should be in place already`
`02:52.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`fisheye is slow like ASS`
`02:52.38`	`Antiarc`	`If it's not working properly, I'll check it :)`
`02:52.42`	`Aiiane`	`doesn't seem to be`
`02:52.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`which mob? :P`
`02:52.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`btw.`
`02:52.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Antiarc`
`02:52.53`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`<3 mobspell`
`02:52.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`*mobspells`
`02:53.10`	`Antiarc`	`Glad you like it`
`02:53.13`	`exor674`	`lol, Gnarfoz all strategies I've seen have a warlock taking all the imps`
`02:53.19`	`Antiarc`	`I'm waiting on some Ace3 patches I submitted to make it better :P`
`02:53.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`exor674: reading strats != actually doing content :>`
`02:53.52`	`Cryect`	`Antiarc, no tank assigned to control them? Our original illhoof strat had a tank tanking the big imp plus as many as the little imps till they got loose and were ready for aoe?`
`02:53.52`	`exor674`	`all stratigies I've personally seen executed :P`
`02:54.21`	`Cryect`	`Not saying omen would really help the fight though :-p`
`02:54.36`	`Cryect`	`But tanking the little imps is definately a valid strat`
`02:54.37`	`Antiarc`	`Cryect: The big imp, yes, and there's still threat calcs on him`
`02:54.49`	`Antiarc`	`Cryect: But threat info on them isn't really terribly important, I'd argue`
`02:54.52`	`Aiiane`	`warlock is a better tank than a warrior for the imps because all their damage is magic`
`02:55.01`	`Antiarc`	`They die quickly, and pulling aggro on them isn't a problem`
`02:55.06`	`Aiiane`	`20-25% more healing > 10% less damage`
`02:55.25`	`Antiarc`	`You can have a ton of imps up, and while AOEing that means a shitload of in-combat traffic`
`02:55.31`	`Antiarc`	`For no appreciable gain`
`02:55.33`	`Cryect`	`Never had a warrior tank them :-p`
`02:55.53`	`Aiiane`	`prot pally maybe, but the same logic still applies`
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`02:55.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`wait people "tank" illhoof imps?`
`02:56.02`	`Aiiane`	`25% more healing > all`
`02:56.06`	`exor674`	`Arrowmaster: warlocks do :P`
`02:56.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`i just kill them all on my warlock and kick everybody elses ass on meters`
`02:56.13`	`Cryect`	`Haha way back like 1st month of TBC we did`
`02:56.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`they dont last longer than 5 seconds`
`02:56.25`	`exor674`	`Arrowmaster: well, you are being an effective imp tank ;p`
`02:56.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`its not called tanking`
`02:56.36`	`Cryect`	`because you are way overgeared for the encounter now`
`02:56.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`its slauthering`
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`02:56.52`	`Cryect`	`when you were in a mixture of T3 and Quest rewards they lasted a lot longer than 5 seconds`
`02:56.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`no i did that back before we were out of kara`
`02:57.00`	`exor674`	`I consider it tanking if you have aggro and are SUPPOSED to have aggro :P`
`02:57.13`	`JJSheets`	`AceDB-3.0 Question: would passing "global" as the defaultProfile in :New() function like the default profile in Ace2 and Rock?`
`02:57.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`JJSheets: use "Default"`
`02:57.45`	`JJSheets`	`okay, thanks`
`03:01.14`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: what ace3 patches did you submit?`
`03:01.46`	`xyu`	`Anyone know why in zomg buffs sometimes when i use the mouseover i can "shift-left click to cast X" and other times it only shows "left click to target" and won't show me casting options?`
`03:02.08`	`xyu`	`its seeminlgy random i dont change anythign`
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`03:02.59`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: Resizable tree view and ability for devs to name frames created via AceGUI`
`03:03.08`	`Antiarc`	`http://jira.wowace.com/secure/attachment/10300/treedrag.jpg`
`03:03.21`	`NeoTron`	`schwing`
`03:03.25`	`NeoTron`	`I guessed that was it`
`03:03.44`	`NeoTron`	`I'm one of the largest abusers or ace3 config ui I think and yeah I'd love that patch`
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`03:03.45`	`contego`	`any have a good link for some info on hunter and its theory craft?`
`03:04.11`	`NeoTron`	`I admit though I prefer when the + sign waws to the left of the name rather than the right`
`03:04.15`	`NeoTron`	`the right feels unnatural to me`
`03:04.37`	`Antiarc`	`Me too, but I think it was changed to be consistent with the new Blizzard options UI`
`03:04.58`	`[eu]gunder`	`contego: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16943-hunter_lounge_-_theorycraft_within/`
`03:04.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`hehe that was a good way to free up 39gb of harddrive space on a 500gb drive with 1gb of free space`
`03:05.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`delete the 5 seasons of a tv series that i now have on dvd`
`03:06.56`	`NivFreak`	`Antiarc: although I think it's retarded, there are guilds that use a FR paladin on Illhoof's imps`
`03:07.07`	`NivFreak`	`I have no idea what's wrong with them...`
`03:07.16`	`Antiarc`	`NivFreak: UHhhhh.`
`03:07.23`	`Antiarc`	`I'm going to take a wild flying leap`
`03:07.23`	`NivFreak`	`Antiarc: exactly`
`03:07.33`	`Antiarc`	`And guess those guild are also the types that run Omen r38056`
`03:07.38`	`NivFreak`	`hahah`
`03:07.45`	`NivFreak`	`not sure`
`03:07.50`	`NivFreak`	`people do a lot of stupid things`
`03:07.54`	`WobWork`	`cause oldschool Omen WAS SO MUCH BETTER DAMNIT`
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`03:08.34`	`NivFreak`	`the first guild I raided kara with, would go through the basement to moroes`
`03:08.39`	`NivFreak`	`instead of up the stairs`
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`03:08.47`	`NivFreak`	`it was insane`
`03:08.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`we did that the very first night`
`03:08.54`	`WobWork`	`through the beast bosses and kitchen?`
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`03:09.00`	`NivFreak`	`WobWork: yes`
`03:09.01`	`WobWork`	`I've never been round that way =)`
`03:09.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`wait through the beast boos area?`
`03:09.13`	`NivFreak`	`yes`
`03:09.17`	`NivFreak`	`it was insane`
`03:09.20`	`NivFreak`	`and you know why?`
`03:09.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`we did through the stables to moroes the very first night`
`03:09.30`	`NivFreak`	`they wiped every time they pulled the packs on the stairs`
`03:09.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`then we used the stairs`
`03:09.59`	`NivFreak`	`oh sorry, I guess the boss area was what they did to maiden`
`03:10.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`how the fuck do you get to moroes through the beast boss area and skip those packs?`
`03:10.02`	`WobWork`	`stables doesn't lead to moroes, does it?`
`03:10.06`	`NivFreak`	`they did go through the stables to moroes`
`03:10.10`	`NivFreak`	`then down and through the boss area`
`03:10.14`	`NivFreak`	`animal boss`
`03:10.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`stables does`
`03:10.17`	`WobWork`	`hm, I'm geographically confused`
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`03:10.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`you go up and around the tower`
`03:10.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`and into the kitchen`
`03:10.40`	`WobWork`	`You kill attumen, head up the stairs... then I'm lost`
`03:10.41`	`NivFreak`	`stables -> moroes -> stables -> animal boss trash -> maiden`
`03:10.49`	`NivFreak`	`that was thier path`
`03:10.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`03:10.58`	`NivFreak`	`something crazy like that`
`03:11.08`	`starlon`	`So what's a good replacement for Assessment? Recap's not doing it for me.`
`03:11.16`	`NivFreak`	`they wiped every time they tried to pull the ballroom trash`
`03:12.02`	`exor674`	`NivFreak: if they're wiping on that trash, I don't think they need to be in Kara :P`
`03:12.13`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68701 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua):`
`03:12.13`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`03:12.13`	`CIA-39`	`- All BS converted to using spell IDs`
`03:12.13`	`CIA-39`	`- May be some issues with IDs, don't have a BS to test with`
`03:12.51`	Funkeh`	`Ackis, dont bs me`
`03:13.02`	`Ackis`	`kekekek`
`03:13.10`	Funkeh`	`;p`
`03:13.18`	`Ackis`	`I always snicker when I add BS to my changelogs lol`
`03:13.33`	`kergoth`	`starlon: try recount`
`03:13.35`	Funkeh`	`lol`
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`03:13.56`	`NivFreak`	`exor674: This guild was wiping on maiden for a month when I joined`
`03:14.01`	`Ackis`	`2 more professions to convert then i can say my mod is a bit less bad... wheeeeeeeeee`
`03:14.03`	`NivFreak`	`because they couldn't dispel...`
`03:14.03`	`Antiarc`	`A MONTH?`
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`03:14.05`	`NivFreak`	`yes`
`03:14.07`	`NivFreak`	`a month`
`03:14.09`	`NivFreak`	`3 days a week`
`03:14.09`	`Antiarc`	`Holy. Crap.`
`03:14.13`	`NivFreak`	`bads`
`03:14.16`	`NivFreak`	`it's ok`
`03:14.16`	`kergoth`	`wow`
`03:14.19`	`luxus`	`server down in europe :/`
`03:14.21`	`NivFreak`	`they finally got to curator`
`03:14.26`	`NivFreak`	`then wiped on him for 3 months`
`03:14.27`	`NivFreak`	`haha`
`03:14.31`	`[eu]gunder`	`wow it took us a week to figure maiden ^^`
`03:14.32`	`WobWork`	`wow, no dispellers for a month?`
`03:14.37`	`NivFreak`	`they had dispelers`
`03:14.40`	`Aiiane`	`oh, another tiny feature request antiarc`
`03:14.45`	`NivFreak`	`they had never heard of decursive`
`03:14.48`	`NivFreak`	`apparently`
`03:14.50`	`Corgan`	`bad players ftw`
`03:14.53`	`NivFreak`	`I started raiding my alt shadow priest with them`
`03:14.55`	`luxus`	`we clear karazhan in 1:40 hour :-P`
`03:14.56`	`Aiiane`	`any chance you might be able to add the option to have single target mode use your focus as its target`
`03:14.56`	`WobWork`	`you don't need decursive =P`
`03:15.00`	`NivFreak`	`and we killed her the first night`
`03:15.04`	`NivFreak`	`I was the only one dispelling`
`03:15.05`	`Ackis`	`omg, don't code with pet out! i keep forgetting that`
`03:15.13`	`WobWork`	`It's not called Badgetzan for nothing =P`
`03:15.13`	`NivFreak`	`luxus: that's insane`
`03:15.16`	`NivFreak`	`we do like 2:40`
`03:15.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`best maiden fight ever was when we did it on an alt run with 0 dispellers, had 2 warlocks so we pulled out felhunters for the hell of it, but we also had 2 shamans`
`03:15.19`	`exor674`	`Ackis: did your pet leave you?`
`03:15.23`	`NivFreak`	`but I haven't been there in months`
`03:15.24`	`Ackis`	`no but he's red`
`03:15.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`nobody got hit with a single holy fire`
`03:15.29`	`starlon`	`would be nice to have multiple Omen windows`
`03:15.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`except me, but i resisted it`
`03:15.44`	`WobWork`	`holy resist ftw? =P`
`03:15.45`	`Antiarc`	`Aiiane: I'll think about what that'd take`
`03:15.52`	`Aiiane`	`kk thanks`
`03:15.53`	`NivFreak`	`Aiiane: I'd love that option too`
`03:15.54`	`luxus`	`NivFreak: 22 badges in 2 hours are great.. thats the only reason for me to go to kara`
`03:15.57`	`NeoTron`	`afaik Holy Fire from Maiden is fire damage`
`03:16.00`	`WobWork`	`s'true`
`03:16.10`	`WobWork`	`clearly she's not as pure as she'd like to think`
`03:16.14`	`NivFreak`	`luxus: yea, I'd rather spend then 2-3 hours in 25 mans`
`03:16.26`	`Unrealii`	`Ackis : Innkeepr Grilka -> Innkeeper Grillka ?`
`03:16.28`	`NeoTron`	`SWP tonight again`
`03:16.33`	`NeoTron`	`time tot est out my marking addon`
`03:16.42`	`Ackis`	`Unrealii: didn't I fix that?`
`03:16.52`	`Unrealii`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:17.28`	`luxus`	`i saw a marking addon that do marking automatically on mouse over.. but i can't remember the name :(`
`03:17.46`	`luxus`	`i mean raid icons`
`03:17.48`	`WobWork`	`luxus pre 2.0?`
`03:17.58`	`Unrealii`	`ARL-Vendor.lua is still Innkeepr Grilka`
`03:17.58`	`vithos`	`magicmarker?`
`03:18.00`	`[eu]gunder`	`I think it was the bug I submitted ackis so the fix is probably available`
`03:18.06`	`WobWork`	`post 2.0 is magicmarker`
`03:18.09`	`WobWork`	`pre is paintball`
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`03:18.48`	`shieldb`	`magicmarker is magic`
`03:18.56`	`NivFreak`	`it's awesome`
`03:18.56`	`shieldb`	`it just needs to ignore offline / group 6-8`
`03:19.01`	`NivFreak`	`hah`
`03:19.17`	`luxus`	`thanks :D i think that it is`
`03:19.21`	`Ackis`	`gunder/Unrealii: I'll take a look at it after I'm done, just downed brut, need to get on to do felmyst`
`03:19.28`	`Ackis`	`Unless it's fixed already`
`03:20.07`	`Unrealii`	`Ok I see :)`
`03:22.12`	`[eu]gunder`	`Unrealii: what build are you using?`
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`03:22.32`	`luxus`	`does nobody maintain the ace3 version of aguf?`
`03:22.50`	`Unrealii`	`ARL revision ?`
`03:22.51`	`vithos`	`i'm liking oUF_P3lim`
`03:23.05`	`NeoTron`	`vithos: Nah I have an addon that marks groups to take the portal for kalecgos`
`03:23.06`	`[eu]gunder`	`yes`
`03:23.34`	`NeoTron`	`luxus: oh I see you were talking about that too.. yes Magic Marker does that`
`03:23.37`	`luxus`	`vithos: yeah but i want party targets :(`
`03:23.40`	`vithos`	`NeoTron: oh, interesting`
`03:23.51`	`Unrealii`	`68701`
`03:23.54`	`NeoTron`	`and if I can say so, MM is heck of a lot better than Paintball (which was rather stupid :)`
`03:24.22`	`Unrealii`	`http://wowhead.com/?npc=18957`
`03:24.42`	`NeoTron`	`only thing MM can't do is to make ppl in the raid target the right mob`
`03:25.01`	`Aiiane`	`lol`
`03:25.10`	`Aiiane`	`ah, the days where addons could do anything`
`03:25.17`	`[eu]gunder`	`yeah I know the npc but I submitted the bug earlier`
`03:25.33`	`Unrealii`	`ah ^_^`
`03:25.52`	`[eu]gunder`	`So I thought it was fixed`
`03:25.56`	`NeoTron`	`vithos: it's still pretty stupid`
`03:26.03`	`Ackis`	`it looks to be fixed`
`03:26.06`	`NeoTron`	`but the theory I have is that my current version will do a better job`
`03:26.16`	`NeoTron`	`it'll get messed up if people don't go into the portal they should og in though`
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`03:26.44`	`vithos`	`i'm listening on vent now to people failing at going in the right portal`
`03:26.51`	`vithos`	`so that would probably not be good :D`
`03:27.07`	`Unrealii`	`thank you`
`03:27.24`	`NeoTron`	`vithos: marking people, ising a raid warning with their name and sending them a whisper seems to help`
`03:27.26`	`avleen`	`One of my addons is causing wow to freeze every time the UI has to reload (eg, hearthing, zone changes). i think it might be caused by cartographer as I haven't seen it happen with cartographer disabled. has anyone else experienced anyhting similar since 2.4?`
`03:27.42`	`NeoTron`	`problem I had last week was it marked ppl that couldn't yet go in`
`03:28.30`	`NeoTron`	`I've added in a timer so it'll never mark (a group) that can't enter`
`03:28.30`	`NeoTron`	`but it still doesn't handle peopel that didn't go in with their initial group`
`03:29.00`	`CIA-39`	`tektest: 03Tekkub 07testes * r719cc41 10/: Test\nNothing to see here`
`03:31.15`	`luxus`	`does shadowed visit this channel sometimes?`
`03:33.01`	`CIA-39`	`tektest: 03Tekkub 07testes * r89ad598 10/:`
`03:33.01`	`CIA-39`	`tektest: Another test`
`03:33.01`	`CIA-39`	`tektest: Seriously, stop reading this crap!`
`03:33.41`	`Ackis`	`plays with teks testes`
`03:33.43`	`Ackis`	`errrr`
`03:33.45`	`[eu]gunder`	`Tekkub I can't stop reading the channel! don't be mad ^`
`03:34.09`	`Zicon`	`takes pictures of ackis`
`03:34.36`	`Dark_Elf`	`starts the video cam rolling`
`03:34.41`	`Ackis`	`lol`
`03:34.57`	`[eu]gunder`	`Good thing i'm taking logs of the channel, isn't it Ackis?`
`03:35.06`	`Dark_Elf`	`posts it all over internet for 99 cents a view`
`03:35.47`	`Ackis`	`meh there's worse on the net about me`
`03:36.45`	`Zicon`	`Really?`
`03:36.49`	`Zicon`	`Link, plz?`
`03:38.08`	`Ackis`	`lol`
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`03:40.18`	`NeoTron`	`so does omen, or threat rather, do a guild-wide version check to see if it's old?`
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`03:41.42`	`Antiarc`	`yes`
`03:41.44`	`Aeyan`	`Can`
`03:41.46`	`Zhinjio`	`blah`
`03:41.48`	`Zhinjio`	`I hate taxes`
`03:41.59`	`Zhinjio`	`I had to submit an amendment for 2006 crap.`
`03:42.15`	`Zhinjio`	`the IRS was claiming that I owed them $8,837`
`03:42.26`	`Zhinjio`	`once I went through everything, I owe them $34.`
`03:42.30`	`Zhinjio`	`bitches.`
`03:42.37`	`Aeyan`	`NeoTron: /omen versioncheck outdated`
`03:43.39`	`Dark_Elf`	`dang we know who makes the money now!`
`03:44.31`	`CIA-39`	`03ulic * r68702 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Dalliah.lua Skyriss.lua Soccothrates.lua Zereketh.lua): LittleWigs: Verfied TK/Arcatraz, thanks yoshimo`
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`03:44.45`	`luxus`	`Aeyan: is this not just only for raid?`
`03:45.06`	`Dark_Elf`	`sends the Darkelves to steal Zhinjio's riches`
`03:45.25`	`Zhinjio`	`heh.`
`03:45.28`	`Zhinjio`	`good luck with that.`
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`03:46.22`	`digmouse`	`morning and night`
`03:46.22`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: figured since it said all 3 in the raid at the time were outdated :P`
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`03:46.45`	`digmouse`	`anyone know sth. about Unit GUID`
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`03:51.17`	`Antiarc`	`What's the name of the skeletons after Rammestein in Strat?`
`03:51.29`	`Aeyan`	`luxus: Works for party too`
`03:52.03`	`luxus`	`Aeyan: yeah but he ask for "guild-wide"`
`03:52.13`	`Aeyan`	`Oh, well, yeah.`
`03:52.21`	`Aeyan`	`Wouldn't work for a guild`
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`03:57.13`	`fridgid`	`is it against the TOS/rules to ask about auction sites? looking to sell my account (not on here or thru here) and since e-bay can't be used, was wondering if anybody has any good info on other sites`
`03:57.14`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: Skeletal Guardian? (still checking)`
`03:58.22`	`Zhinjio`	`the mobs of skeletons that come from the exit, or the group of ... what, 10? that comes from the door?`
`03:58.52`	`Antiarc`	`Zhinjio: I don't think that's it`
`03:58.56`	`Antiarc`	`It's like 40 of them :P`
`03:59.05`	`Antiarc`	`And they're Mindless Skeletons/Mindless Zombies`
`03:59.07`	`luxus`	`hmm i speak php... but lua is different ...`
`03:59.45`	`Zhinjio`	`I find two matches: Mindless SKeleton and MIndless Undead`
`04:00.10`	`kadrahil`	`hmm`
`04:00.22`	`kadrahil`	`i wonder if i should pick up alchemy on my hunter since i already have jewelcrafting`
`04:00.26`	`kadrahil`	`and do transmute spec`
`04:00.34`	`fridgid`	`bad horrible idea`
`04:00.38`	`kadrahil`	`;S`
`04:00.43`	`fridgid`	`transmute spec is the worst spec ever`
`04:00.49`	`kadrahil`	`really?`
`04:01.02`	`fridgid`	`i had it for 6 months and i'd switch to elixir again any day of the week`
`04:01.02`	`luxus`	`leatherworking or enchanting if you want do more dmg :-P`
`04:01.05`	`kadrahil`	`do earthstorm and skyfire share a transmute?`
`04:01.07`	`kadrahil`	`err`
`04:01.08`	`kadrahil`	`cooldown`
`04:01.28`	`fridgid`	`i stopped playing pre-2.4 so i dunno if anything else is new, but all the bc recipes shared a cooldown`
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`04:01.34`	`fridgid`	`at best you got one chance per day`
`04:01.40`	`kadrahil`	`i did the same, just started back recently`
`04:01.55`	`Zhinjio`	`kadrahil: yes, they do.`
`04:02.01`	`fridgid`	`i'm trying to sell, dunno a good place >_< at least with daoc you could still use ebay`
`04:02.02`	`Zhinjio`	`(share a cooldown)`
`04:02.06`	`kadrahil`	`Zhinjio: ah then i can see how that wouldn't be worth it`
`04:02.20`	`fridgid`	`all these auction sites found with google look sketchy`
`04:02.27`	`Zhinjio`	`ah, for making money?`
`04:02.31`	`kadrahil`	`Zhinjio: yeah`
`04:02.33`	`Zhinjio`	`well... its slow. but they're worth alot.`
`04:02.38`	`kadrahil`	`Zhinjio: i already have 375 jewelcrafting`
`04:02.45`	`Zhinjio`	`on my server, just about every single meta is 90+ g`
`04:02.48`	`kadrahil`	`and 375 mining of course`
`04:02.50`	`Zhinjio`	`nods.`
`04:03.09`	`fridgid`	`imo eng/mining with an epic mount is the most money`
`04:03.13`	`kadrahil`	`i was thinking of dropping mining for alchemy but wasn't sure if it'd be worth the effort`
`04:03.21`	`kadrahil`	`yeah i have my epic flyer`
`04:03.34`	`fridgid`	`but if you're looking at alchemy, i'd say its only worth it if you spec elixir and get a few flasks, and even then its not very good`
`04:03.36`	`luxus`	`anyone know a good lua editor on macosx?`
`04:03.40`	`fridgid`	`alchemy was semi-good`
`04:03.43`	`exor674`	`textmate`
`04:03.47`	`kadrahil`	`^`
`04:03.49`	`ckknight`	`luxus: I use textmate`
`04:04.01`	`fridgid`	`vim?`
`04:04.05`	`luxus`	`how i can enable syntax highlighting? :D`
`04:04.05`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: heya`
`04:04.16`	`exor674`	`"cat > file.lua"`
`04:04.19`	`ckknight`	`hey, Zhinjio`
`04:04.19`	`exor674`	`best editor ever`
`04:04.38`	`fridgid`	`lol, cat`
`04:05.00`	`luxus`	`i will ask google..`
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`04:07.06`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19833 = snake trap snakes?`
`04:07.30`	`Mudkipz`	`SNAKES`
`04:08.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: yes, at least from the name`
`04:08.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: also: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19921`
`04:09.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: actually, just look here: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45145 :)`
`04:09.26`	`CIA-39`	`03rodrick * r68703 10NazGuildRecruiter/ (. Core.lua NazGuildRecruiter.toc):`
`04:09.26`	`CIA-39`	`NazGuildRecruiter:`
`04:09.26`	`CIA-39`	`- Mucked with embeds (should be better now)`
`04:09.26`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:09.26`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:09.27`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:09.29`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:10.27`	`kadrahil`	`anyone playing wow on mac osx notice any random sound effects in the game that don't seem to have to do with anything?`
`04:10.39`	`kadrahil`	`for example i keep hearing avenger's shield`
`04:11.18`	`kadrahil`	`like in the middle of org`
`04:11.29`	`kadrahil`	`or defending a tower in AV by myself with nobody near me`
`04:11.33`	`CIA-39`	`03antiarc * r68704 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ThreatBlacklist.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua lib.xml): Threat-2.0: Move the blacklist to another file for easier maintenance. Extend the blacklist a bit. Blacklist won't work for people that upgrade in place without a WoW restart, but it won't break either.`
`04:13.34`	`luxus`	`kadrahil: no`
`04:14.20`	`kadrahil`	`hmm`
`04:14.40`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68705 10StatBlocks_MeleeStats/Locales/koKR.lua:`
`04:14.40`	`CIA-39`	`StatBlocks_MeleeStats:`
`04:14.40`	`CIA-39`	`- Update locale koKR`
`04:15.15`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68706 10StatBlocks_DogTag/StatBlocks_DogTag.toc:`
`04:15.15`	`CIA-39`	`StatBlocks_DogTag:`
`04:15.15`	`CIA-39`	`- fix toc (missing embeds.xml)`
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`04:16.08`	`kadrahil`	`i actually caught it on video in AV, about to upload it`
`04:16.24`	`luxus`	`video with mac are easy :D`
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`04:18.02`	`kadrahil`	`http://media.putfile.com/Random-Sound-Effects-in-WoW`
`04:18.13`	`kadrahil`	`i hear that freaking randomly`
`04:18.18`	`kadrahil`	`just heard it in the org AH`
`04:20.35`	`kadrahil`	`^ pro ui too`
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`04:22.19`	`luxus`	`no i think i don't have sounds like this :D`
`04:24.10`	`luxus`	`anyone allready have the badged vendor on the island?`
`04:24.21`	`Mazohyst`	`Is AuldLangSyne screwed up for anyone else? Everytime I cursor over it on my Fubar it locks up my WoW`
`04:24.44`	`luxus`	`on my brother ui it works Mazohyst`
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`04:24.58`	`Mazohyst`	`Hmm, it was working a couple hours before.`
`04:25.44`	`luxus`	`i remove it from my ui.. the only thing i was using are the notes and coloring`
`04:27.22`	`kadrahil`	`ok someone i know said they hear that sound`
`04:27.26`	`kadrahil`	`and he isn't using a mac`
`04:28.41`	`Zhinjio`	`so what Ace3 mods are now considered production ready as far as y'all are concerned?`
`04:29.03`	`Zhinjio`	`MobSpells is on my list already`
`04:30.32`	`Ellipsis`	`licks Zhinjio`
`04:30.39`	`Zhinjio`	`Ellipsis: !!!`
`04:30.47`	`Zhinjio`	`howdy`
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`04:39.06`	`Zhinjio`	`whats working for dmg meters right now? Recount? Assessment?`
`04:40.02`	`Zhinjio`	`y'all are a chatty bunch tonight`
`04:40.03`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68707 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua:`
`04:40.03`	`CIA-39`	`HandyNotes_FlightMasters:`
`04:40.03`	`CIA-39`	`- Update locale koKR`
`04:41.02`	`Xinhuan`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784219441&sid=1`
`04:41.07`	`Xinhuan`	`lol no more stacking world buffs`
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`04:41.30`	`CIA-39`	`03damjau * r68708 10Whats/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`04:41.30`	`CIA-39`	`Whats : 0.53`
`04:41.30`	`CIA-39`	`- fix incorrect item data`
`04:41.31`	`CIA-39`	`- add detail trash mob drop info`
`04:41.31`	`CIA-39`	`- add 2.4 item data`
`04:41.35`	`digmouse`	`anyone know something about Unit GUID?`
`04:41.55`	`Zorkmid`	`hey all, trying to find a Good PVP server near Ontario that has lotsa people on it and wont lag`
`04:41.58`	`Yssaril`	`since blizzard dosnt give us a way to get spellid/links form quests atm is it alright to scann thru all spellid's for a match?`
`04:42.00`	`Zorkmid`	`any suggestions?`
`04:43.02`	`Yssaril`	`Zhinjio, why does it matter if its ace3 or not?`
`04:43.27`	`Yssaril`	`Zhinjio, check out gathermate though is great`
`04:43.58`	`Zhinjio`	`I've not been using anything ace3 up to this point to wait for it to be more production-ready. I'm now willing to go down that road.`
`04:44.05`	`ckknight`	`I have an ssh question, hopefully someone will know this. Why, on Mac OS X, can I ssh to other machines as one (local) user but not another?`
`04:44.19`	`Zhinjio`	`and no offense ... but I'm really sick of being asked why I care about what fucking framework things have.`
`04:44.29`	`Yssaril`	`Zhinjio, :P`
`04:44.59`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: both the ssh client and host have the ability to lock connections down to a particular keyed user`
`04:45.03`	`Yssaril`	`think that goes both ways devs are sick of hearing is it ace/rock/whatever :)`
`04:45.17`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: I'm doing ckknight@tehserver.com each time`
`04:45.33`	`ckknight`	`ssh ckknight@tehserver.com from both accounts`
`04:45.50`	`Zhinjio`	`thats the username on the target machine, I assume?`
`04:45.53`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`04:46.15`	`Zhinjio`	`well, in that case ... the answering host can key to a particular requesting user and his personal key`
`04:46.37`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68709 10StatBlocks_Quests/StatBlocks_Quests.toc:`
`04:46.37`	`CIA-39`	`StatBlocks_Quests :`
`04:46.37`	`CIA-39`	`- fix toc (LibQuixote-2.0 path fix)`
`04:47.10`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68710 10StatBlocks_Quests/loc/koKR.lua:`
`04:47.11`	`CIA-39`	`StatBlocks_Quests :`
`04:47.11`	`CIA-39`	`- Add locale koKR`
`04:47.25`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: also, I can't log into any ssh server on the one account`
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`04:48.34`	`Zhinjio`	`hmm`
`04:48.48`	`Zhinjio`	`there's so many ways to lock down the server and client`
`04:48.57`	`kadrahil`	`i get my netherdrake in 5 days worth of dailies`
`04:49.27`	`kadrahil`	`not countin geggs`
`04:49.31`	`kadrahil`	`eggs`
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`04:52.13`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: do you have a .ssh directory in that one (locked down) user's directory?`
`04:52.16`	`luxus`	`Zhinjio: i allready use more then 20 addons that use Ace3`
`04:52.29`	`luxus`	`and i have no problems`
`04:52.31`	`ckknight`	`yes, I also removed it and had the same issue`
`04:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68711 10StatBlocks_Ammo/ (Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua StatBlocks_Ammo.lua):`
`04:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`StatBlocks_Ammo:`
`04:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`- more Locale`
`04:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`- Update locale koKR`
`04:55.15`	`Zhinjio`	`luxus: right. Can you name a few more of them for me, please?`
`04:56.20`	`Zhinjio`	`thanks.`
`04:56.33`	`luxus`	`bongos, betterinbox, combuctor cooldownbuttons mapster etc`
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`04:56.59`	`luxus`	`there allready alot of addons that use Ace3`
`04:57.02`	`Zhinjio`	`bongos is ace3? I didn't think that was true`
`04:57.09`	`luxus`	`bongos3 yes`
`04:57.15`	`Zhinjio`	`ah`
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`04:57.46`	RHS`	`/erc-cmd-N`
`04:57.58`	`luxus`	`but you don't care what framework it use :D`
`04:58.02`	`JJSheets`	`Zhinjio, I'm programming ButtonFacade in Ace3, no problems yet with it either.`
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`04:59.00`	`luxus`	`what is buttonfacade?`
`04:59.15`	`JJSheets`	`My replacement for CyCircled.`
`04:59.38`	`Aeyan`	`Yeah, I've been looking forward to it`
`04:59.39`	RHS`	`My apologies if this has been asked over and over, but I checked the message boards and saw nothing... Does anyone know of a fix to stop Fubar_GuildFu (or the other guild fubar addons) from locking up the entire game when their FuBar item is moused over?`
`04:59.39`	`Shirik`	`Antiarc: ping`
`04:59.41`	`Aeyan`	`I miss cycircled, hehe`
`04:59.46`	`luxus`	`and every addon have to build compatibilty for it?`
`05:00.29`	`Zhinjio`	RHS`: mine doesn't do that??
`05:00.33`	`JJSheets`	`luxus, yes, but I've got interest from authors of Bongos, Bartender, and autobar at least. Plus, InfiniBar-2.0 will support it out of the box.`
`05:00.56`	`Zhinjio`	`whats wrong with cycircled? I'm still using it?`
`05:00.59`	`luxus`	`cooldownbuttons satrina buff frames! :D`
`05:01.23`	`Zhinjio`	`JJSheets: cool.`
`05:01.30`	RHS`	`Zhinjio: Mine does, as does that of everyone in my guild that's using it... ever since when we ran WAU a couple days ago. It seems like a library was updated that's interacting poorly with certain addons that focus around guild information`
`05:01.32`	`JJSheets`	`Zhinjio, it does not handle new bars without a reload, it only allows one skin at a time for all buttons.`
`05:01.48`	`JJSheets`	`It also does not quite correctly follow the right pattern for layers.`
`05:02.15`	RHS`	`Or, that's what it feels like to me, since neither GuildFu nor the other FuBar guild addon have been updated, but both are having the issue`
`05:02.15`	`Zhinjio`	RHS`: I updated all my WAU stuff about 10 minutes ago ... I just moused over my GuildFu ... and no lockup.
`05:02.56`	`Zhinjio`	`JJSheets: makes sense to me. Let me know when you're ready to go live with it, and I'll bang on it.`
`05:03.03`	`luxus`	`i don't have many buttons... and i don't really NEED cycycle .. but if you add support for cdb and sbf it sounds interessting`
`05:03.06`	RHS`	`Zhinjio: That's strange, since it's doing for all the folks I know that I've talked to about it. I wonder if it's a bad interaction with another addon we're all using`
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`05:03.11`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68712 10StatBlocks_Ammo/ (Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua StatBlocks_Ammo.lua):`
`05:03.11`	`CIA-39`	`StatBlocks_Ammo:`
`05:03.11`	`CIA-39`	`- revert sorry ;)`
`05:03.35`	`JJSheets`	`Zhinjio, http://code.google.com/p/buttonfacade/ if you want to mess with it now.`
`05:03.39`	`Zhinjio`	RHS`: no idea. if you run bugsack/buggrabber, perhaps you could pastey a specific error
`05:04.21`	RHS`	`There's no error... the whole game just locks up the minute to mouse over it. The dropdown from any other FuBar addon doesn't even have time to disappear as you move off it`
`05:04.29`	RHS`	`s/to/you`
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`05:04.39`	`Kurax`	`Question`
`05:04.48`	`Kurax`	`Why Newyork is Big Apple?`
`05:05.12`	RHS`	`Because the Big Fig didn't sound as cool?`
`05:05.13`	`Zhinjio`	`JJSheets: I'm still working through configuring a few other addons and getting larger UI elements figured out.`
`05:05.19`	`Yssaril`	`Kurax, http://www.salwen.com/apple.html`
`05:05.22`	`CIA-39`	`03totalpackage * r68713 10StellarUF/auratimers.lua:`
`05:05.22`	`CIA-39`	`StellarUF:`
`05:05.22`	`CIA-39`	`- finally fixed the target info problem, thanks Equilibrium`
`05:05.24`	`Zhinjio`	`at some point, I'll get down to messing with my bars gain`
`05:05.45`	`Kurax`	`Yssaril: Thanks =p`
`05:06.13`	`Yssaril`	`Kurax, np :) was the first hit on google for newyork big apple btw :P`
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`05:08.09`	`Ellipsis`	`pets Kurax`
`05:08.24`	`Kurax`	`pokes Ellipsis`
`05:08.30`	`Ellipsis`	`hiii`
`05:09.33`	`Kurax`	`Ah, hi`
`05:10.01`	`Kurax`	`I'm bored, any news from ck about his addons?`
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`05:10.34`	`ckknight`	`Kurax: I'm having ssh issues`
`05:10.47`	`ckknight`	`once I fix those, I'll make a small announcement`
`05:11.29`	`Kurax`	`Cool`
`05:11.39`	`JJSheets`	`good news or bad news ck? :p`
`05:12.56`	`ckknight`	`news of where to download a tech preview`
`05:12.59`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`05:13.09`	`JJSheets`	`oooooh`
`05:14.17`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: thanks for Parrot.`
`05:14.19`	`Zhinjio`	`I missed it.`
`05:14.21`	`ckknight`	`np`
`05:14.22`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`05:15.04`	`luxus`	`Zhinjio: you should read changelogs :D`
`05:15.43`	`Zhinjio`	`I should?`
`05:15.45`	`luxus`	`Zhinjio: not ckknight fix Parrot... he just merge the fixes into the trunk`
`05:16.00`	`ckknight`	`same difference, it works now`
`05:16.18`	`Zhinjio`	`fine: ckknight : thanks for merging in fixes to get Parrot working again.`
`05:16.24`	`JJSheets`	`Works well enough for me to disable SCT and give Parrot a try?`
`05:16.49`	`JJSheets`	`has sadly never used Parrot... been wanting to ever since 2.4`
`05:16.56`	`luxus`	`depends on your needs ;D`
`05:17.00`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`05:17.17`	`luxus`	`sct is way to spamy for me`
`05:17.34`	`Kurax`	`Wait`
`05:17.42`	`JJSheets`	`waits.`
`05:17.45`	`Kurax`	`Did you mean Parrot is working now?`
`05:17.48`	`luxus`	`yes`
`05:17.57`	`ckknight`	`stop.`
`05:17.59`	`ckknight`	`hammertime!`
`05:18.02`	`Corgan`	`osnap`
`05:18.06`	`JJSheets`	`Can't touch this!`
`05:18.33`	`Kurax`	`Why hammer`
`05:18.40`	`Zhinjio`	`<3 Parrot.`
`05:18.49`	`Zhinjio`	`going to go beat on something to test now.`
`05:19.01`	`Diao`	`is it a real update to parrot with all the combat log changes fixed or just a temp fix as posted on forums :O`
`05:19.55`	`dylanm`	`I don't see why those two things have to be different.`
`05:19.56`	`on1y`	`anyone repoprt the recount error on gui_mail.lua line 729`
`05:19.58`	`luxus`	`68641 by ckknight 08 April 2008, 12:05:40 -0700 (10 hours ago) Parrot - merge in the hacks from http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12512 to get Parrot working on 2.4. Yes, there will be bugs. No, this is not Parrot 2.0.`
`05:20.00`	`Zhinjio`	`it looks great to me.`
`05:20.23`	`Kurax`	`I see`
`05:20.23`	`ckknight`	`I might fix it up to be less hackish`
`05:20.32`	`Shadowed`	`luxus: ?`
`05:20.48`	`luxus`	`i forget my question Shadowed`
`05:20.50`	`Shadowed`	`ah`
`05:20.54`	`luxus`	`:D`
`05:21.17`	`Kurax`	`I'm still waiting for the Parrot 2.0, the one with DogTag3`
`05:21.39`	`luxus`	`does parrot need dogtag?`
`05:22.03`	`ckknight`	`Parrot uses a custom tag system now`
`05:22.05`	`ckknight`	`very simplistic`
`05:23.06`	`luxus`	`Shadowed: i really like your GTB idea`
`05:23.15`	`Shadowed`	`oh`
`05:23.18`	`Shadowed`	`you're wondering about the stun stuff?`
`05:23.36`	`luxus`	`yeah please make a stunwatcher :D`
`05:23.47`	`Shadowed`	`It's something I may do in the future, but not a priority right now. GTB isn't a final idea yet either`
`05:24.38`	`luxus`	`it think i am a big fan from you :D i use alot addons that you made`
`05:24.52`	`Shadowed`	`thanks`
`05:25.03`	`Shadowed`	`Have to see what happens with GTB first`
`05:25.29`	`luxus`	`it is a good idea... its remember me to libsink`
`05:26.00`	`CIA-39`	`03krakhaan * r68715 10EnchantBotFu/EnchantBotFu.toc:`
`05:26.00`	`CIA-39`	`EnchantBotFu:`
`05:26.00`	`CIA-39`	`- updated version`
`05:26.00`	`CIA-39`	`03krakhaan * r68714 10EnchantBot/ (EnchantBot.lua Localization.lua):`
`05:26.01`	`CIA-39`	`EnchantBot:`
`05:26.03`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed bug`
`05:26.43`	`CIA-39`	`tektest: 03Tekkub 07master * r54689d1 10/: Testing ammended commits`
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`05:27.35`	`Zhinjio`	`Recount makes me weep little tears of joy.`
`05:27.44`	`Zhinjio`	`sniffle graphs snuffle`
`05:27.46`	`Zhinjio`	`<3`
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`05:28.06`	`luxus_`	`re :(`
`05:28.31`	`luxus_`	`24 hour disc`
`05:28.49`	`luxus_`	`one addon for all bars would be great`
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`05:29.54`	`luxus_`	`and other addons send bars to groups`
`05:29.59`	`ckknight`	`JJSheets: okay, solved ssh issues`
`05:30.14`	`JJSheets`	`Cool. Announce. :p`
`05:30.24`	`mykx`	`skull + 4 piece tonight :D`
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`05:30.35`	`Kurax`	`ping ping Antiarc?`
`05:30.45`	`CIA-39`	`03cryect 072.4 * r68716 10Recount2/GUI_Table.lua:`
`05:30.45`	`CIA-39`	`Recount2:`
`05:30.45`	`CIA-39`	`-Bug fix for the table frames to use the proper new args for scheduling/removing timers`
`05:30.45`	`Kurax`	`~seen Antiarc`
`05:30.49`	`purl`	`antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (8h 23m 55s) #wowace (8h 23m 55s) #curseforge (8h 23m 55s). Has said a total of 105 messages. Is idling for 1h 23m 43s, last said: 'http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19833 = snake trap snakes?'.`
`05:31.14`	`ckknight`	`if anyone wants to try out Cartographer3, you can check out http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline`
`05:31.27`	`ckknight`	`it's not done, but it's pretty shiny.`
`05:31.51`	`Kurax`	`So this is the announce`
`05:31.59`	`ckknight`	`yep.`
`05:32.08`	`ckknight`	`I said small announce`
`05:32.11`	`JJSheets`	`Cool. I'll probably check it out tomorrow, finishing up my work on ButtonFacade and need sleep for an early morning tomorrow. :)`
`05:32.16`	`Orionshock`	`any easy way to download git stuff w/o using weird magic?`
`05:32.33`	`ckknight`	`Orionshock: not to my knowledge, unless gitorious makes archives, which I doubt`
`05:32.59`	`ckknight`	`oh, here you go: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/47ffefcf99b3d0f5ccdfd0a824a3b2abd8156854.tar.gz`
`05:34.06`	`Estil`	`I was watching GC's 4th video and saw a mod where if you healed somebody, the +healing you did appeared above their head , is this some form of a mod`
`05:34.55`	`MentalPower`	`Estil: game feature`
`05:35.03`	`luxus_`	`no librock?`
`05:35.19`	`Estil`	`hm I dont' recall there was an option to turn that on`
`05:35.24`	`Estil`	`I'll look into it, thanks`
`05:35.54`	`CIA-39`	`03totalpackage * r68717 10StellarUF/ (StellarUF.toc core.lua):`
`05:35.54`	`CIA-39`	`StellarUF:`
`05:35.54`	`CIA-39`	`- added deDE localization for spell range`
`05:35.56`	`ckknight`	`luxus: ...nope`
`05:35.58`	`Cryect`	`Just has no way to display HOTs unfortunately though over people's head I seem to recall`
`05:36.17`	`on1y`	`anyone report the recount error on gui_mail.lua line 729? dont knwo if you saw this`
`05:36.29`	`luxus_`	`no more love for librock?`
`05:36.31`	`Estil`	`ah D:`
`05:36.33`	`WobWork`	`all gitted up, eh ck?`
`05:36.42`	`Estil`	`would love to see a mod that works for hots too then`
`05:36.44`	`ckknight`	`WobWork: been using git for a while...`
`05:36.50`	`Estil`	`or buffs / debuffs`
`05:37.00`	`ckknight`	`luxus: I couldn't decide between Ace3 and Rock, so I just didn't use either`
`05:37.12`	`Cryect`	`on1y, report Recount 1 bugs to elsia`
`05:38.25`	`Cryect`	`Estil, can't make it work because 3d text stuff we can't control like that or whatever`
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`05:38.32`	`Estil`	`ah :(`
`05:39.15`	`luxus_`	`ckknight: thanks for the info.. :D do you have any screenshots from carto3? i cant go online in wow .. server maintain in europe :D`
`05:39.55`	`ckknight`	`luxus_: it's just a frame that shows the world in it, you use the mousewheel to zoom. it acts like google maps for the most part.`
`05:40.22`	`ckknight`	`it's not done, it's just ...shiny`
`05:40.35`	`Cryect`	`shiny in what way?`
`05:41.08`	`JJSheets`	`ckknight... that sounds incredibly shiny.`
`05:41.11`	`Zhinjio`	`thats pretty neat.`
`05:41.13`	`ckknight`	`it's one of those things you see and go "ooh"`
`05:41.17`	`ckknight`	`"shiny"`
`05:41.23`	`luxus_`	`ah ok .. with zoom you mean switch the maps? or really ZOOM in?`
`05:41.32`	`Cryect`	`so its like carbonite works then`
`05:41.37`	`ckknight`	`yep, Cryect`
`05:41.37`	`Sole`	`yeah`
`05:41.43`	`JJSheets`	`ck sez shiny he mean shiny. it probably zooms. :)`
`05:41.47`	`ckknight`	`totally ripping off Carbonite.`
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`05:42.02`	`Zhinjio`	`thatws pretty nice.`
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`05:42.15`	`ckknight`	`luxus_: actually a zoom dealy`
`05:42.23`	`Zhinjio`	`the mouseover detail should probably be restricted to a certain zoom level or lower.`
`05:42.28`	`Cryect`	`Well wouldn't call it ripping them off as in its not that original of an idea :-p just no one bothered to do it as free flowing between different maps`
`05:42.32`	`Zhinjio`	`when you're out at the top most level, it just makes it look dirty`
`05:42.52`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: shrug`
`05:42.54`	`luxus_`	`"like google maps" :D`
`05:43.02`	`Zhinjio`	`nods.`
`05:43.04`	`starlon`	`just needs some artwork`
`05:43.05`	`Zhinjio`	`pretty darn sexy`
`05:43.57`	`ckknight`	`starlon: hrm?`
`05:43.58`	`Zhinjio`	`cries. Can't make the window go away.`
`05:44.00`	`Zhinjio`	`heh`
`05:44.07`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: yea, that's true`
`05:44.11`	`ckknight`	`it's just a preview, it's not done`
`05:44.12`	`Zhinjio`	`heheheee`
`05:44.20`	`luxus`	`too bad that lua looks not so easy as i hope :(`
`05:45.09`	`luxus`	`does anyone use StellarUF?`
`05:45.55`	RHS`	`As a note, it's not guildfu that's the problem... the client crashes w/o any addons when I click on my name in the guild window`
`05:46.13`	RHS`	`Actually, everyone's client crashes when they click on my name`
`05:46.20`	`on1y`	`recount 2 what stage is it in`
`05:46.25`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68718 10Recount/LazySync.lua:`
`05:46.25`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`05:46.25`	`CIA-39`	`- Another bug fixed.`
`05:46.26`	`luxus`	`i can't click on your name`
`05:46.27`	RHS`	`So... anyone happen to know if there's a way to change your personal note via /script?`
`05:46.34`	`Cryect`	`prealpha`
`05:46.39`	`Orionshock`	`ckknight: how stable is Cart3?`
`05:46.48`	`ckknight`	`incredibly unstable.`
`05:46.49`	`starlon`	`ckknight: the furthest out you can zoom could use some artwork, at least when I looked at it`
`05:46.52`	`ckknight`	`do not use it as a real addon.`
`05:46.58`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
`05:46.59`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:47.09`	`ckknight`	`starlon: contemplating making the cosmic map the outmost thing ;-)`
`05:47.16`	`starlon`	`ah`
`05:47.20`	`Cryect`	`Recount 2 though is fairly error free and stable and high performance just feature lacking`
`05:48.33`	`Cryect`	`few errors I know of though that aren't fixed in the trunk version but will get taken care of when I rebranch to trunk after new config features get added`
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`05:51.33`	`on1y`	`how do i get r68718?`
`05:51.38`	`on1y`	`version of recount`
`05:51.57`	`Orionshock`	`files.wowace.com/Recount/Recount-r68718.zip`
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`05:52.27`	`luxus`	`can anyone explain me what so cool with GIT?`
`05:52.54`	`on1y`	`damn files doenst exist`
`05:53.05`	`Cryect`	`wait like 8 more minutes on1y`
`05:53.18`	`Cryect`	`files.wowace.com gets updated only every 20 minutes or so`
`05:53.22`	`luxus`	`not too long ago svn was so much cooler then cvs.. and now git is cooler then svn`
`05:54.09`	`luxus`	`ah ok i think i found it out myself http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion`
`05:54.11`	`Antiarc`	`Kurax: Yo`
`05:54.23`	`Orionshock`	`ckknight: wow, that is amazingly better than Cart2, feels sorta like google maps tbh`
`05:54.44`	`on1y`	`okay`
`05:54.55`	`ckknight`	`Orionshock: "it's just a frame that shows the world in it, you use the mousewheel to zoom. it acts like google maps for the most part."`
`05:55.10`	`Cryect`	`heh I see GIT fixes the biggest issue of SVN with the way merge working completely sucking`
`05:55.27`	`ckknight`	`yes, svn's merge sucks, it makes me not use svn's branches`
`05:55.31`	`ckknight`	`I use branches with git, though`
`05:55.34`	`ckknight`	`it helps`
`05:55.39`	`Xinhuan`	`well, do you foresee wowace switching to git? hehe`
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`05:56.34`	`Kurax`	`Antiarc: When mages cast Invisible and been interrupted before finish, their threat are not completely clear`
`05:56.40`	`luxus`	`is there any updater that support git? :D`
`05:56.54`	`ckknight`	`luxus: um, git.`
`05:56.59`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, I've had reports the implementation is wrong, but from looking at the code I can't figure out how. I need to borrow a mage to test with.`
`05:57.25`	`luxus`	`ckknight: no gui for macosx right?`
`05:57.37`	`ckknight`	`luxus: I use mac os x`
`05:57.50`	`ckknight`	`luxus: I use the textmate git bundle, for the most part`
`05:58.00`	`luxus`	`ah cool`
`05:58.13`	`ckknight`	`TextMate's author wrote it, since he uses git`
`05:58.15`	`luxus`	`then i have to checkout the git bundle via svn :D`
`05:58.16`	`ckknight`	`so it's well done`
`05:58.23`	`ckknight`	`you can't get it via svn.`
`05:58.37`	`ckknight`	`http://gitorious.org/projects/git-tmbundle`
`05:58.51`	`luxus`	`ah thanks`
`05:58.58`	`luxus`	`really quick :D`
`05:59.40`	`ckknight`	`luxus: if you want to learn more about the philosophy of git, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8`
`06:00.00`	`dylanm`	`Wonder when Textmate2 will be out.`
`06:00.21`	`ckknight`	`yea, I want that`
`06:00.24`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`06:01.00`	`luxus`	`in my whole guild i am the only one with a mac`
`06:01.11`	`luxus`	`ok.. at the moment i am on a hackintosh :D`
`06:01.24`	`ckknight`	`btw, I would host Cartographer3 on my local machine, but I'm NAT'd`
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`06:01.41`	`ckknight`	`later, I'll be hosting it on curseforge, likely`
`06:02.06`	`dylanm`	`Curseforge eh?`
`06:02.18`	`ckknight`	`dylanm: yea, been working on the git support for it for the past few days`
`06:02.28`	`ckknight`	`cause I wanna use git.`
`06:02.31`	`ckknight`	`not just svn`
`06:02.38`	`haste`	`git-svn`
`06:02.41`	`ckknight`	`no, haste`
`06:02.42`	`ckknight`	`no.`
`06:02.45`	`ckknight`	`no banana for you`
`06:02.55`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`06:03.08`	`ckknight`	`idea's to support svn, git, and hg thus far`
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`06:07.26`	`luxus`	`littlebit offtopic.. what anyone know a good mp3tagger for mac? :(`
`06:07.56`	`haste`	`you can use ex falso`
`06:08.07`	`haste`	`http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/`
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`06:13.48`	`CIA-39`	`03snago * r68719 10IHML/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`06:13.48`	`CIA-39`	`IHML:`
`06:13.48`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix spelling of Grengill.`
`06:13.49`	`CIA-39`	`- Register for ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA`
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`06:14.18`	`MentalPower`	`~lart sylvanaar`
`06:14.18`	`purl`	`whacks sylvanaar with the cluebat`
`06:14.25`	`CIA-39`	`03broesel01 * r68720 10Quiet_Npc/ (6 files):`
`06:14.25`	`CIA-39`	`Quiet_Npc`
`06:14.25`	`CIA-39`	`- Npc's geaddet`
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`06:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`03krakhaan * r68721 10AB/ (AB.lua AB.toc AB.xml Localization.lua ReadMe.txt):`
`06:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`AB:`
`06:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`- Added AB now pauses in BG and PVP Combat`
`06:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`- Added message grouping and broadcast type (i.e. random or round robin)`
`06:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`- Added multiline edit box for messages`
`06:15.05`	`CIA-39`	`03krakhaan * r68722 10ABFu/ (ABFu.lua ABFu.toc):`
`06:15.05`	`CIA-39`	`ABFu:`
`06:15.05`	`CIA-39`	`- updated for AB 2.0`
`06:16.18`	`Antiarc`	`sylvanaar: If I write a spell linking patch for Prat's module, will you accept it? I don't think ChatLink has been updated yet, but it's irritating to have a new link type that can't be used :/`
`06:16.25`	`Antiarc`	`And it may be impetus for the ChatLink guy to update his code!`
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`06:17.07`	RHS`	`Random task for anyone that's bored and is in a guild... Open your guild social window and click on each person's name (both offline and on, everyone) to bring up the details dialog on them. Are you able to get through everyone in your guild`
`06:17.29`	`Antiarc`	`I have 186 characters in my guild`
`06:17.33`	`Antiarc`	`I'm going to have to get REALLY bored.`
`06:17.39`	`MentalPower`	RHS`: why would I not be able to?
`06:17.41`	RHS`	`There appears to be a bug somewhere in the core game that crashes the client under certain circumstances... but I can't figure out what the commonality is`
`06:17.41`	`Orionshock`	`^^ same`
`06:17.53`	RHS`	`s/crashes/locks up`
`06:18.03`	`MentalPower`	`496 chars in mine`
`06:18.08`	`MentalPower`	`is not gonna do that one`
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`06:18.22`	RHS`	`Well, you don't need to click on everyone... just everyone until one of them locks your client up ;)`
`06:18.40`	`Antiarc`	RHS`: You're able to duplicate that without any mods?
`06:18.42`	RHS`	`I've found 2 people in my guild that cause it so far... but can't find anything in common`
`06:18.46`	`Xinhuan`	`you're saying something crashes when you click on your name?`
`06:19.00`	`Xinhuan`	`or perhaps there's something in your public/officer note that wow can't render`
`06:19.13`	`Orionshock`	`ie color :D`
`06:19.18`	RHS`	`Antiarc: yes, with the caveat that I only tried it with my own character w/o any mods enabled... When I was testing other chars, I had mods enabled`
`06:19.32`	RHS`	`But it locks up my client when I click on my own char w or w/o mods`
`06:19.47`	`Xinhuan`	`color is fine in the guild note, Orionshock`
`06:19.54`	RHS`	`Both my public and officer notes are pure text, as far as I can tell`
`06:19.58`	`Xinhuan`	`you can only set the color by using the /script commadns though`
`06:19.58`	`exor674`	`item links?`
`06:20.07`	`Xinhuan`	`as they won't get escaped`
`06:20.08`	`exor674`	`more specifically, item links to bad items`
`06:20.17`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: ya, GMOTD is cool to colorize`
`06:20.28`	RHS`	`"Cant spread out in a small room" and "0\|1164\|0\|3", public and officer`
`06:20.35`	`Lonny`	`Howdy, I'm kinda new to Ace and I wonder how can I upload an addon I made ?`
`06:20.41`	`Xinhuan`	`wait till you set that GMOTD with a \n in it, and followed by a "yellow fake system message"`
`06:20.43`	`WobWork`	`Lonny: Get an SVN account first`
`06:20.45`	`Antiarc`	The pipes might do it, RHS`
`06:20.57`	`Xinhuan`	`that says [SERVER]: Shutdown in 15:00`
`06:20.58`	`Antiarc`	`They're reserved for SendChatMessage, at least`
`06:21.05`	`Aiiane`	RHS`: just got through the entire guild list
`06:21.06`	`Xinhuan`	`it never gets old`
`06:21.08`	`Aiiane`	`no issues`
`06:21.10`	RHS`	`Antiarc: everyone in my guild has those pipes in their officer note... it's an artifact of the EPGP mod`
`06:21.13`	`Antiarc`	`Xinhuan: That's awesome. BRB.`
`06:21.19`	RHS`	`it stores "dkp" in the officer note`
`06:21.20`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: that is ... so win`
`06:21.32`	`Lonny`	`How can I get it ? I read but still, can't figure it out, never used SVN ?`
`06:21.34`	`Xinhuan`	`the server recognizes that the gmotd has a \n in it though, and will revert the change after half a second back to its previous one`
`06:21.36`	RHS`	`Aiiane: thanks for checking`
`06:21.42`	`Xinhuan`	`so it'll seem as though 2 GMOTDs is set`
`06:22.08`	`Xinhuan`	`its pretty good for faking "Adrine rolls 100 (1-100)" assuming your whole party is in your guild`
`06:22.09`	`Xinhuan`	`;p`
`06:22.21`	`Xinhuan`	`but of course, it doesn't pass the timestamping addons`
`06:22.25`	`Orionshock`	`ah man i got to try that LOL`
`06:22.28`	`Antiarc`	`SetGuildInfoText?`
`06:22.37`	`Xinhuan`	`whatever the command is, for /gmotd`
`06:23.14`	`exor674`	`can you put itemlinks in that way?`
`06:23.14`	`Orionshock`	`Antiarc: i think it's SetGMOTD()`
`06:23.31`	`MentalPower`	`its not`
`06:23.49`	`Xinhuan`	`yes exor674`
`06:23.59`	`Orionshock`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GuildSetMOTD`
`06:24.15`	`Antiarc`	`GuildSetMOTD("Note here\n\|cffffff00[SERVER] Shutdown in 15:00\|r") <-- didn't work for me`
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`06:24.24`	RHS`	`As far as I can tell, there's no odd chars in the notes of either of the chars that crash the client :(`
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`06:24.47`	VonhintenHOME`	`Hmm, somehow I lost waypoint markers on my minimap`
`06:24.49`	`Antiarc`	`IT just set it to everything before the \n`
`06:24.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`you cant type \|'s into editboxes`
`06:24.56`	`Xinhuan`	`aww maybe blizz fixed it?`
`06:25.05`	`Xinhuan`	`but i think you can't type \| in a editbox`
`06:25.08`	`charon`	`morning`
`06:25.11`	`Xinhuan`	`escape it with \124`
`06:25.11`	`MentalPower`	`\124`
`06:25.13`	`Antiarc`	`I'll try \124?`
`06:25.33`	`Antiarc`	`No dice`
`06:25.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`escape the \n?`
`06:25.44`	`Tem`	`Xinhuan, they have(since the patch) begun scrubbing the MOTD`
`06:25.52`	`Tem`	`you can't do that stuff anymore`
`06:25.53`	`Xinhuan`	`i haven't tried it since 2.4 hehe`
`06:25.57`	`Antiarc`	`Aw`
`06:25.58`	`Antiarc`	`Bummer`
`06:26.10`	`MentalPower`	`yeah they cut out at the \n`
`06:26.11`	`Orionshock`	`lame`
`06:26.17`	`Orionshock`	`can u use color codes?`
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`06:26.36`	`Tem`	`no`
`06:26.37`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`06:26.40`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`06:26.40`	`Jaxon`	`I should look for a Mobspells thread or bug report thing`
`06:26.49`	`Tem`	`Xinhuan, you could a few weeks ago, but you cannot anymore`
`06:26.57`	`Tem`	`I don't know when but they changed it`
`06:27.02`	`Antiarc`	`I'm sad`
`06:27.04`	`Xinhuan`	`:(`
`06:27.06`	`Antiarc`	`I enjoy making my guild panic`
`06:27.13`	`Tem`	`as do I`
`06:27.13`	`Antiarc`	`Our second lowest rank is "Guild Master"`
`06:27.15`	`Xinhuan`	`well officer notes and guild notes still can have colors in it`
`06:27.22`	`Antiarc`	`So every time we invite a new person to the guild, we promote them one rank`
`06:27.26`	`Tem`	`Antiarc, ROFL`
`06:27.30`	`Antiarc`	`And they get "Adrine has promoted Joenoob to Guild Master"`
`06:27.34`	`on1y`	`how do i force reset recount`
`06:27.39`	`on1y`	`it wont let me do anything`
`06:27.53`	`WobWork`	`er /recount reset ?`
`06:28.03`	`exor674`	`Antiarc: is the guildmaster rank "N00b Tryout"?`
`06:28.22`	`Antiarc`	`"Captain"`
`06:28.24`	`Orionshock`	`nope no color code`
`06:28.25`	`on1y`	`o tried that`
`06:28.31`	`on1y`	`but it wont let me`
`06:28.43`	`Xinhuan`	`half my guild notes right now in my guild`
`06:28.45`	`Xinhuan`	`are coloured`
`06:28.48`	`Orionshock`	`SSC All week long till it's clear. Raid starts at 7pm Server, that means you are online at 6:30pm server!`
`06:28.52`	`Orionshock`	`... oops`
`06:29.04`	`Aiiane`	`sounds... fun`
`06:29.06`	`Xinhuan`	`like one says "Legendary Alchemist!" in orange color`
`06:29.29`	`Xinhuan`	`and someone's note is "black like a nigger" and its in almost unreadable dark grey`
`06:29.30`	`Tem`	`hah`
`06:29.42`	`Tem`	`what's the api for setting notes?`
`06:29.45`	`Hell-Razor`	`ive always wondered`
`06:29.52`	`Hell-Razor`	`whats way ni the south of winterspring?`
`06:30.12`	`Xinhuan`	`monsters`
`06:30.26`	`Hell-Razor`	`i know`
`06:30.29`	`Hell-Razor`	`i traveled down there`
`06:30.32`	`Hell-Razor`	`but whats the point of it`
`06:30.51`	`Xinhuan`	`the demons drop an epic that used to conbine with an item from molten core to form a priest staff`
`06:31.00`	RHS`	`Ok, I'm out. Thanks for listening, folks :)`
`06:31.12`	`Xinhuan`	`and the only other quest that asks you to go there, is related to the AQ40 opening event quest chain`
`06:31.21`	`Hell-Razor`	`Xinhuan, what epic?`
`06:31.26`	`Xinhuan`	`that asks you to farm mobs for some for dummies page`
`06:31.28`	`Antiarc`	`Eye of Shadow`
`06:31.29`	`Antiarc`	`I think`
`06:31.46`	`exor674`	`Xinhuan: doesn't the Warlock Ritual of Doooooom quest have you go there too?`
`06:31.58`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm, not sure on that, i dont' play a lock`
`06:32.06`	`contego`	`it does`
`06:32.10`	`Hell-Razor`	`yea it does`
`06:32.12`	`exor674`	`thought so hehe`
`06:32.16`	`Hell-Razor`	`you just have to visit some vender`
`06:32.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`no you dont`
`06:32.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`unless they changed it`
`06:32.33`	`Aiiane`	`also, lots and lots of thorium nodes`
`06:32.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`vendor was for a tier 0.5 quest`
`06:32.50`	`Aiiane`	`90% of the people who went to the southern end of winterspring were miners`
`06:32.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`you had to kill mobs for the doom quest`
`06:33.31`	`Hell-Razor`	`miners as chinese farmers?`
`06:33.39`	`Hell-Razor`	`or ore miners`
`06:34.20`	`Aiiane`	`as in, the in-game, trainable profession that's used to acquire ore :P`
`06:34.33`	`Hell-Razor`	`ah`
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`06:34.51`	`exor674`	`there's an ingame profession to aquire whores?`
`06:36.24`	`Antiarc`	`http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040808233419vx6.jpg`
`06:36.27`	`Antiarc`	`Mah UI is sexah now.`
`06:36.43`	`Aiiane`	`no, that's just going to Goldshire on an RP server exor674`
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`06:37.13`	`on1y`	`question, is there a way in a macro to show a specific icon when no icon is available?`
`06:37.17`	`on1y`	`e.g.`
`06:37.46`	`Orionshock`	`Antiarc: what's that tooltip thing'ie?`
`06:37.59`	`Antiarc`	`Blizzard tooltips, and MobSpells :P`
`06:38.02`	`on1y`	`i make a succubus macro for charm but when the pet is not out it shows somethign other than a "?"`
`06:38.09`	`Antiarc`	`I need to get a tooltip mod working again`
`06:38.14`	`Jaxon`	`Mobspells is misreporting Prayer of Mending :(`
`06:38.16`	`Antiarc`	`But my CowTip layout broke and I'm lazy now`
`06:38.26`	`Antiarc`	`Jaxon: Because technically, the mob casts it :/`
`06:38.31`	`nevcairiel`	`get TinyTip`
`06:38.32`	`Orionshock`	`Antiarc: does it learn from the combat log or is it a prepopulated list?`
`06:38.32`	`Jaxon`	`I know :(`
`06:38.38`	`Antiarc`	`It learns`
`06:38.39`	`Jaxon`	`Orionshock: it learns`
`06:38.41`	`Jaxon`	`IT LEARNS`
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`06:38.44`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: what are you using for your timers bar at the bottom?`
`06:38.51`	`Zhinjio`	`Slice and Dice, et al`
`06:38.53`	`Antiarc`	`My buffs are Elkano's`
`06:39.02`	`Antiarc`	`The bar at the bottom is a custom EBB group`
`06:39.06`	`Zhinjio`	`yeah, I know... aha. Nice.`
`06:39.13`	`Snago`	`Antiarc: And the action bars?`
`06:39.18`	`Antiarc`	`BT4`
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`06:39.36`	`pakoz`	`where can i report a bug with cowtip?`
`06:39.41`	`Xinhuan`	`so antiarc`
`06:39.46`	`Xinhuan`	`if i search for "spells"`
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`06:39.50`	`Xinhuan`	`and type in "Att"`
`06:39.58`	`Xinhuan`	`[2008/04/09 14:39:28-6351-x3]: MobSpells\MobSpells.lua:740: attempt to index local 'name' (a nil value)`
`06:39.58`	`Xinhuan`	`MobSpells\MobSpells.lua:638: in function <Interface\AddOns\MobSpells\MobSpells.lua:638>`
`06:39.58`	`Xinhuan`	`(tail call): ?:`
`06:40.08`	`Antiarc`	`I'll fix it`
`06:40.09`	`Antiarc`	`Thanks`
`06:40.28`	`nevcairiel`	`1.495 threat modifier with my warrior .. seems rather high ..`
`06:40.30`	`Snago`	`Antiarc: And where are your finishers? Modifiers?`
`06:40.41`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah. Ctrl1 is rupture, E is SnD`
`06:40.51`	`Antiarc`	`4 is evis because I leveled that way and habits are hard to break :V`
`06:41.46`	`Snago`	`So you have no visible button for SnD?`
`06:41.54`	`Antiarc`	`Correct`
`06:41.56`	`Antiarc`	`No need for it`
`06:42.04`	`Snago`	`No one-hand-raiding for you then ;P`
`06:42.27`	`Antiarc`	`Quite to the contrary, I have all my actions bound to one-hand-reachable key combos :P`
`06:42.30`	`Grum`	`euh? why do you need a visual button?`
`06:42.30`	`Antiarc`	`I just use the mouse for moving`
`06:42.37`	`Antiarc`	`Moving my camera, rather`
`06:42.46`	`Aiiane`	`same basically`
`06:42.51`	`Aiiane`	`although it's somewhat easier on a lock`
`06:43.04`	`Grum`	`lock is 1 button dps :D`
`06:43.11`	`Aiiane`	`Q...Q...Q...Q...Q...Q...Q...Q....`
`06:43.18`	`pakoz`	`rofl`
`06:43.19`	`Zhinjio`	`I'm trying to debug why EBB creates a screen-width bar when a weapon buff fades.`
`06:43.25`	`Zhinjio`	`its making me cry.`
`06:43.38`	`Aiiane`	`oh look, CoS ran out.... 5...Q....Q....Q....Q`
`06:44.23`	`Aiiane`	`hmm, a little high on aggro.... ~...Q....Q....Q....Q`
`06:44.37`	`Grum`	`^^`
`06:44.42`	`Antiarc`	`Hm, this should be interesting`
`06:44.44`	`Aiiane`	`on a side note`
`06:44.47`	`Antiarc`	`2 rogues with 4pc T6 vs Curator`
`06:44.55`	`Aiiane`	`binding soulshatter to ~ is the best thing I ever did as a lock`
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`06:45.07`	`Antiarc`	`Ctrl-Q = vanish`
`06:45.15`	`Grum`	`Antiarc: haha`
`06:45.40`	`exor674`	`hhe`
`06:45.48`	`exor674`	`Aiiane: ~ is my super mark buton`
`06:46.02`	`exor674`	`~ and combos of shift, control, and alt`
`06:46.02`	`purl`	`ACTION && combos of shift, control, and alt = ???`
`06:46.07`	`Antiarc`	`hahah`
`06:46.22`	`Antiarc`	`~ and foo`
`06:46.23`	`purl`	`ACTION && foo = ???`
`06:46.36`	`Antiarc`	`~ 10 and 2`
`06:46.37`	`purl`	`12`
`06:46.39`	`Antiarc`	`Neat`
`06:47.07`	`Ellipsis`	`~ Antiarc and cake`
`06:47.11`	`Ellipsis`	`=[`
`06:47.19`	VonhintenHOME`	`I'm an old school daoc player.. I use Shift+bar#, #`
`06:47.23`	`Zhinjio`	`licks Ellipsis`
`06:47.27`	`Grum`	`Antiarc: cake or pie?`
`06:47.36`	`Zhinjio`	`The cake is a lie.`
`06:48.26`	`Aiiane`	`~ Antiarc = cake`
`06:48.35`	`Aiiane`	`:\|`
`06:48.45`	`Jaxon`	`I believe it is`
`06:48.53`	`Jaxon`	`~ Antiarc is cake`
`06:48.54`	`purl`	`...but antiarc is already something else...`
`06:49.11`	`Aiiane`	`~ Cake is a lie`
`06:49.12`	`purl`	`...but cake is already something else...`
`06:49.15`	`Aiiane`	`boo`
`06:49.16`	`Ellipsis`	`~cake`
`06:49.17`	`purl`	`the cake is a lie!`
`06:49.17`	`Aiiane`	`~ Cake`
`06:49.17`	`purl`	`the cake is a lie!`
`06:49.19`	`Aiiane`	`aha`
`06:49.22`	`Ellipsis`	`...well there you go`
`06:49.39`	`Aiiane`	`~antiarc`
`06:49.39`	`purl`	`well, antiarc is the author of Sanity, Hemlock, and Omen, and project lead on Threat-1.0, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/`
`06:49.48`	`Aiiane`	`boo, far too rational and useful`
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`06:50.08`	`Antiarc`	`purl, forget antiarc`
`06:50.08`	`purl`	`Antiarc: i forgot antiarc`
`06:50.16`	`charon`	`Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/85377 .. adding Shadowy Construct from the teron fight could also reduce comms traffic, but they probably follow threat mechanics normally`
`06:50.17`	`Antiarc`	`purl, antiarc is cake. He is also a lie.`
`06:50.18`	`purl`	`Antiarc: okay`
`06:50.35`	`Aiiane`	`:P`
`06:50.50`	`Antiarc`	`charon: No need for threat on them, non-ghosts can't affect them, and ghosts can't taunt them`
`06:50.54`	`Antiarc`	`So yeah, I'll remove that`
`06:51.00`	`charon`	`lemme improve the patch then`
`06:52.35`	`charon`	`Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/85378`
`06:52.48`	`Antiarc`	`Thanks`
`06:52.56`	`charon`	`oddly enough wowhead did not have the channelers, only sorcerers`
`06:53.05`	`charon`	`is off for a coffee break`
`06:53.10`	`syeren`	`Shadowed: ping`
`06:53.12`	`Xinhuan`	`does blacklisting mobs like that Antiarc, cause healer aggro not to be split among all the mobs properly?`
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`06:53.33`	`Antiarc`	`Hm, yeah, it would`
`06:53.40`	`Xinhuan`	`so that needs to be fixed`
`06:53.44`	`Antiarc`	`yeah`
`06:53.48`	`Xinhuan`	`maybe just blacklist them from being transmitted`
`06:53.49`	`Ellipsis`	`oh noes, a theoretical bug`
`06:53.56`	`Xinhuan`	`but they still should be calculated?`
`06:54.00`	`Snago`	`But why have Shade of Aran on the blacklist? He has a threat lists he follows if all his spell schools are locked out.`
`06:54.09`	`Antiarc`	`I think he wipes threat extremely often`
`06:54.26`	`Antiarc`	`So if all 3 get locked out he pops whoever hit him the hardest very recently`
`06:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`03morgalm * r68723 10MorgDKP/ (9 files): (log message trimmed)`
`06:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`MorgDKP:`
`06:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`- Tweak ML detection`
`06:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`- Add autoswitch to FFA for Vashj P2 and switch back for P3`
`06:54.44`	`CIA-39`	`- Removed DKPInfo.lua file for default`
`06:54.44`	`Antiarc`	`But he's blacklisted because threat in that encounter is functionally irrelevant`
`06:54.45`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed missing overbid value on BidWar resend`
`06:54.47`	`CIA-39`	`- Allowed minimum bid to be set for BidWar`
`06:55.02`	`Zhinjio`	`alright, I can't keep my eyes open anymore. Y'all have a good night.`
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`06:55.28`	`syeren`	`WTB Shadowed :(`
`06:55.35`	`Shadowed`	`syeren: ?`
`06:56.23`	`Snago`	`Hmm, have they changed that recently? From what I remember he would go for whoever was on top on Omen.`
`07:00.35`	`MentalPower`	`woot, my public guild note is now pink!`
`07:00.51`	`MentalPower`	`or purple, depending on your color perception`
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`07:06.14`	`luxus`	`i didnt know that linus torvalds is so cool`
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`07:11.08`	`tz8`	`luxus: why that?`
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`07:11.33`	`WobWork`	`hm, what about Netherspite?`
`07:11.44`	`luxus`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 ckknight gave me that link`
`07:11.45`	`WobWork`	`do the threat tables reset when someone's in the red beam?`
`07:11.58`	`WobWork`	`or is that a second threat table or something`
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`07:13.54`	`Xinhuan`	`there is a threat wipe when he exits nether phase (i think)`
`07:14.07`	`Xinhuan`	`there is an aggro table, but its only used if someone is not holding the red beam`
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`07:29.19`	`tz8`	`hmmm... just found http://be.imbu.hu/ - nice!`
`07:29.57`	`tz8`	`"this character may be improved" - damn`
`07:29.57`	`nevcairiel`	`isnt it be.imba.hu?`
`07:29.59`	`Kurax`	`Xinhuan!`
`07:30.04`	`Xinhuan`	`?`
`07:30.14`	`tz8`	`nev: it is, yes`
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`07:30.20`	`Kurax`	`XD`
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`07:30.26`	`Kurax`	`Is this your card?`
`07:30.27`	`Kurax`	`http://pic.yupoo.com/geuro/0169055d253b/medium/`
`07:30.38`	`Xinhuan`	`probably no`
`07:30.42`	`Kurax`	`The name is funny`
`07:30.49`	`Xinhuan`	`also, old story/pic`
`07:30.53`	`Ellipsis`	`nibbles on Kurax`
`07:31.02`	`Kurax`	`AHHHH`
`07:31.06`	`Kurax`	`lurks`
`07:31.14`	`Ellipsis`	`it was a friendly nibble :(`
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`07:31.41`	`tz8`	`a colleague of mine from Hong Kong was named 'Wing Man Foo'... which already is a really weird name...`
`07:31.51`	`Kurax`	`No, not because the nibble, because Xinhuan said it's old =p`
`07:31.52`	`tz8`	`but the worst thing is: she's female!`
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`07:43.54`	`kadrahil`	`poke`
`07:44.02`	`kadrahil`	`does anyone use mercurial adamantite for anything now?`
`07:44.08`	`kadrahil`	`been out of the loop :S`
`07:46.04`	`digmouse`	`whats the meaning of Inc in BG?`
`07:46.22`	`Antiarc`	`Incoming`
`07:46.27`	`digmouse`	`thx`
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`07:58.16`	`charon`	`Xinhuan, Antiarc: regarding healing aggro on blacklisted mobs, it's not exactly better if despawned mobs lurk around in your table and split threat among too many targets`
`07:58.22`	`charon`	`at least with blacklisting it will overestimate`
`07:58.34`	`charon`	`of course your point is entirely valid for the akama blacklist etc`
`07:59.33`	`pakoz`	`Where can i report a bug with cowtip?`
`08:01.45`	`Antiarc`	`charon: Scarabs are the only case I can think of`
`08:02.00`	`Esine`	`how exactly do you use AceGUI3 TreeGroup widgets? what do I need to do to set some data visible?`
`08:03.00`	`charon`	`pakoz: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/COW`
`08:03.03`	`charon`	`Antiarc: hmm.`
`08:04.04`	`Antiarc`	`Esine: More or less it comes down to building a table and then calling :SetTree on the TreeGroup widget`
`08:04.12`	`pakoz`	`thxchief`
`08:04.17`	`Esine`	`right, but in what format should the table be in?`
`08:04.31`	`Antiarc`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/MobSpells/MobSpells.lua - see :BuildTree()`
`08:05.02`	`pakoz`	`do i have to log in to post it?`
`08:05.03`	`Antiarc`	`Each member has a text, value, and children member`
`08:05.15`	`Gibbonz\|Work`	`does TopScoreFu 68642 fix the previous revision? wow wouldn't load it last night ;p`
`08:05.15`	`Antiarc`	`Children is a table of child elements in the tree with the same properties`
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`08:05.30`	`Nargiddley`	`theres an example tree is the TreeGroup lua`
`08:05.44`	`Esine`	`hmh.`
`08:05.59`	`Esine`	`Nargiddley, I do not see it`
`08:06.05`	`Nargiddley`	`219`
`08:06.11`	`Esine`	`ohh`
`08:06.12`	`Esine`	`you're right`
`08:06.12`	`Esine`	`thanks`
`08:06.15`	`NeoTron`	`it took the full night but we did repeat the kill..`
`08:06.20`	`charon`	`pakoz: they only ask for your soul to register, and it doesn't even hurt`
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`08:07.46`	`CIA-39`	`03kurax * r68728 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/crafting.cn.lua: AtlasLoot_Crafting: zhCN typo fix`
`08:08.19`	`CIA-39`	`03kurax * r68729 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.cn.lua: AtlasLoot_RepFactions: zhCN typo fix`
`08:09.10`	`CIA-39`	`03kurax * r68730 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (WorldEvents.cn.lua WorldEvents.tw.lua): AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: zhCN/TW typo fix`
`08:09.43`	`CIA-39`	`03kurax * r68731 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (6 files): AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Update zhCN/TW locales`
`08:10.59`	`Gibbonz\|Work`	`a lot of typos...`
`08:11.03`	`Esine`	`:-) so far my first ever WoW addon development is going very well`
`08:11.23`	`Esine`	`Antiarc, I have to make a confession.. I did use some of the code from MobSpells to get me started`
`08:11.24`	`Esine`	`the init routines`
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`08:11.35`	`Esine`	`because I didnt want to google for Ace3 tutorial if such thing exists ;)`
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`08:13.35`	`Antiarc`	`Esine: Hehe, go nuts with it`
`08:13.42`	`NeoTron`	`I had to take 10-20m breaks between tries to hack on myu addon`
`08:13.45`	`Kurax`	`Gibbonz\|Work: Yeah....because the typo came from the company who translate WoW...`
`08:13.46`	`NeoTron`	`but in the end it seemed to work ok`
`08:14.30`	`Kurax`	`They fixed them in 2.4 so I should follow...`
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`08:15.10`	`Nandini`	`i'm so torn now, i switched back to xperl (instead of pb) for raiding tonight, it was nice to get more than 5fps during large aoe pulls`
`08:15.26`	`Nandini`	`but i miss a lot of the little extra info i got from pitbull`
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`08:23.50`	`CIA-39`	`03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r68732 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (Bartender4.lua PetBar.lua): Bartender4: fix profile issues with the pet bar`
`08:24.05`	`CIA-39`	`03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r68733 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua:`
`08:24.05`	`CIA-39`	`Ace3 - AceDB-3.0`
`08:24.05`	`CIA-39`	`- fire the DB callbacks after the namespaces changed their profile as well`
`08:24.23`	`ScoTTie`	`how would i so something like: /script ScheduleTimer("SPAMZOR", function() SendChatMessage("Test!","YELL","Orcish") end, 10)`
`08:24.24`	`ScoTTie`	`in a macro ?`
`08:24.55`	`Xinhuan`	`/in 10 /yell TEST!`
`08:24.57`	`tz8`	`Nandini: i know exactly what you mean :(`
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`08:25.34`	`ScoTTie`	`wow`
`08:25.38`	`ScoTTie`	`that was easy thanks`
`08:25.59`	`nevcairiel`	`that only works if you have Ace2 around though`
`08:26.15`	`Xinhuan`	`or an addon called InDemand`
`08:26.19`	`Xinhuan`	`or if you have cosmic`
`08:26.22`	`Xinhuan`	`cosmos*`
`08:26.41`	`Gibbonz\|Work`	`Zeksie: i like the new totem thing you added, but it's not meant to overlap buffs is it? :)`
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`08:31.37`	`Gibbonz\|Work`	`looked a bit odd with a blizz minimap style button/circle overlapping buffs, thats all ;p`
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`08:35.21`	`Pkekyo\|edu`	`morning all`
`08:35.40`	`CIA-39`	`03broesel01 * r68734 10Quiet_Npc/ (7 files):`
`08:35.40`	`CIA-39`	`Quiet_Npc`
`08:35.40`	`CIA-39`	`- Npc's geaddet`
`08:37.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`~failirk`
`08:37.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`~failrik`
`08:37.16`	`purl`	`FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!`
`08:37.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`i finally figured out how you were typing that damn character`
`08:37.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`AltGr-0 right?`
`08:37.59`	`Kurax`	`What's Gr..`
`08:38.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`wiki it`
`08:38.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`its a key almost every keyboard layout except US-Qwerty has`
`08:38.52`	`nevcairiel`	`altrgr-0 is } for me`
`08:39.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`bah`
`08:39.10`	`nevcairiel`	`(AltGr is a shortcut for ctrl-alt)`
`08:39.20`	`nevcairiel`	`Arrowmaster: but i'm in a german layout :P`
`08:39.21`	`Kurax`	`Seems I dont even got this key on my keyboard`
`08:39.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`its right-alt`
`08:39.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`doesnt do anything on us-querty`
`08:40.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`gota use us-international if you want it on a us layout`
`08:40.09`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`08:40.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`or US-International - Reversed Dead Key Layout which i just switched to`
`08:40.26`	`Kurax`	`"The ALT GR key is on the right side of the keyboard on some non-U.S. keyboard layouts. ALT GR is equivalent to the CTRL+ALT key combination"`
`08:40.49`	`kilrogg`	`at least on german layouts it doesn't behave that way ...`
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`08:41.05`	`MentalPower`	`Kurax: thats not entirely true`
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`08:41.26`	`MentalPower`	`since AltGr+Del ~= Ctrl+Alt+Del`
`08:41.27`	`Kurax`	`That quoted from Microsoft Office Online haha`
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`08:41.47`	`nevcairiel`	`Alt-Gr works as ctrl-alt when accessing secondary keys like ~ on my keyboard`
`08:41.55`	`digmouse`	`Ctrl+Alt+0 happens nothing to me`
`08:41.56`	`nevcairiel`	`it doesnt work like that for functional stuff`
`08:42.02`	`nevcairiel`	`like Ctrl-Alt-Del`
`08:42.37`	`nevcairiel`	`or like ² .. which is 3rd usage of my 2 key`
`08:42.40`	`nevcairiel`	`with alt-gr or ctrl-alt`
`08:42.44`	`digmouse`	`@?`
`08:42.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US-International`
`08:43.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`the dead keys were annoying so i used the other layout below it`
`08:43.02`	`nevcairiel`	`@ is alt-gr Q`
`08:43.11`	`MentalPower`	`Â¡Â²Â³Â¤â¬Â¼Â½Â¾ââÂ¥Ã`
`08:43.24`	`kilrogg`	`^ what he said ...`
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`08:43.49`	`MentalPower`	`thats 1 to = with AtlGr on my US-International setup`
`08:44.07`	`Kurax`	`Hmm`
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`08:44.19`	`Kurax`	`All tests failed`
`08:44.32`	`nevcairiel`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_Germany.svg`
`08:44.34`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`08:44.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`you have to switch to us international and have advanced text services enabled`
`08:45.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`and restart the programes you want to use it in after enabling advanced text services`
`08:46.35`	`Kurax`	`Windows ask me for a restart`
`08:46.42`	`Kurax`	`No, not now..`
`08:47.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive got a ton of keyboard layouts installed for no reason`
`08:51.35`	`Pkekyo\|edu`	`blar!`
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`08:57.00`	`charon`	`having both nodeadkeys and deadkeys layouts around is neat`
`08:57.40`	`mitch0`	`hrmp. why isn't java using all the cores in the cpu?... </ot>`
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`08:58.18`	`Pkekyo-edu`	`blar`
`08:59.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm where did my IME bar go`
`08:59.51`	`Pkekyo-edu`	`be bored shitless`
`09:00.06`	`kilrogg`	`yawns`
`09:00.23`	`mitch0`	`any java devs here by any chance? :)`
`09:02.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`srsly where is my IME bar, i cant tell which mode im in now`
`09:02.51`	`Kurax`	`Do you have to use IME?`
`09:03.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`no but i use it for fun sometimes`
`09:03.30`	`CIA-39`	`03neotron 07dev * r68735 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP/ (Config.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: Fixed a bunch of bugs discovered during raiding. Ordered raids in CTRT export by event time.`
`09:03.40`	`Kurax`	`Which kind of IME`
`09:03.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`used to use it purely for unputing unicode char codes until i did the reg edit that lets me do alt + ####`
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`09:09.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`rofl i put it on japanese US-dvorak and now alt-shift is switching between qwerty and dvorak`
`09:09.13`	`Higdur`	`horray`
`09:09.27`	`Zeksie`	`Gibbonz\|Work: That's why i made it freely movable. not everyone uses the playerbuffs module.`
`09:09.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`br c jaby yfl. cb ekrpat`
`09:09.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`no i cant type in dvorak`
`09:09.57`	`NeoTron`	`so our prime rival guild fell apart`
`09:10.11`	`Higdur`	`I binded "change to dvorak" on my "set focus target" keybinding the other day... I only use focus targets for shackling normaly, so got a bit of a shock when I went to MH :)`
`09:10.17`	`NeoTron`	`they were formed from ppl leaving the guild I was in because we weren't hardcore enough`
`09:10.38`	`NeoTron`	`they cleared BT faster than us but by the time Sunwell hit, they were in shambles due to having no new content for so loong`
`09:10.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol had that happen`
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`09:11.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`except the other guild got vashj before us but then hit cockblock on kael while we powered through him and onto hyjal/bt`
`09:12.43`	`Higdur`	`me too`
`09:12.51`	`NeoTron`	`they raided 5 days per week to our 4`
`09:13.04`	`NeoTron`	`we did in fAct clear in less raid days`
`09:13.10`	`NeoTron`	`just more actual days`
`09:13.24`	`NeoTron`	`that one extra day added up to a lot of potential additional progress`
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`09:13.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`other guilds on my server are raiding 5days`
`09:13.38`	`NeoTron`	`we didn't do KT for a long time, heck we didn't even do Solarian, due to being stuck on vahsj`
`09:13.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`we were raiding 4 days but now that we killed illidan 2 weeks ago were only raiding 3`
`09:13.55`	`Higdur`	`the other guild cleared through SSC/TK up to Vashj/kael while we were still 2/4 2/6 or something like that`
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`09:14.30`	`NeoTron`	`we're a 4/week guild`
`09:14.38`	`NeoTron`	`have been doing 2-3 raid weeks until sunwell`
`09:14.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`at first we only raided 3 days too until we werent having time to do vashj and tk`
`09:14.42`	`Higdur`	`then we killed Vashj a day before they did, Kael 3 days after them, then they disbanded after 1/9 2/5`
`09:14.45`	`NeoTron`	`now we're back to 4`
`09:15.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`and this was when the other guild got vashj first while doing 5/week`
`09:15.11`	`NeoTron`	`main difference with us is that we have a large set of non-raiding members`
`09:15.17`	`NeoTron`	`which leads to more out of raid activities`
`09:15.23`	`NeoTron`	`think it's a good thing`
`09:15.43`	`NeoTron`	`have occasional bad apples - the I wanna raid I wanna raid I got leet gearz from karazhan`
`09:16.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`we were trying to find time to fit in za runs since we were raiding W Th Su M`
`09:16.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`and Tues is reserved for badgeazan`
`09:16.37`	`Higdur`	`we're now 5/5 4/9 and running strong after almost 3 years as a guild`
`09:17.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol some of us have been together as a guild for almost 3 years, not the same guild name though`
`09:18.43`	`Higdur`	`we've still got the same name, but there's not all that many people left from august 2005 :)`
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`09:19.17`	`CIA-39`	`03antiarc * r68736 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`09:19.17`	`CIA-39`	`Threat-2.0:`
`09:19.17`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix a bug that was causing abilities with a damage + flat threat component to be double-counted`
`09:19.17`	`CIA-39`	`- Add Akama channelers and Teron constructs to the threat blacklist`
`09:22.05`	`NeoTron`	`I wonder`
`09:22.26`	`NeoTron`	`if that bugfix somehow caused lacerate or other drood spells to count for too much?`
`09:22.53`	`[Ammo]`	`it did`
`09:22.55`	`nevcairiel`	`lacerate and maul`
`09:23.24`	`NeoTron`	`sweet`
`09:23.32`	`nevcairiel`	`same for warriors with devastate and heroic strike`
`09:23.53`	`NeoTron`	`nice nice`
`09:24.02`	`NeoTron`	`explains a few "wtf I pulled?" moments`
`09:24.05`	`kilrogg`	`I wonder ... by looking at Threat-2.0 shaman class specifics ... doesn't Earth Shield count for the person shielded (like Lifebloom, Mending) and NOT for the shaman ?`
`09:24.20`	`Antiarc`	`kilrogg: It does`
`09:24.37`	`NeoTron`	`we had this 1% kalecgos wipe...`
`09:24.45`	`NeoTron`	`I had killed myself early on by pulling aggro :(`
`09:24.45`	`Antiarc`	`But that's handled implicitly because as far as the game is concerned, the shielded person casts the heal when a charge is used`
`09:24.50`	`Antiarc`	`So there's no special handling needed`
`09:25.13`	`NeoTron`	`had I not we'd won`
`09:25.31`	`NeoTron`	`ofc had the MT shield walled later, or the inner demon dps stopped so kal wasn't 16% at enrage we'd also won`
`09:25.36`	`nevcairiel`	`pulling aggro on kalecgos? how did you manage that?`
`09:25.40`	`kilrogg`	`I see ... thanks`
`09:25.45`	`NeoTron`	`first round`
`09:25.49`	`NeoTron`	`before being inside`
`09:25.58`	`NeoTron`	`lilely a bunch of crits or something`
`09:26.23`	`NeoTron`	`in an earlier attempt the druid mt got the double threat debuff really early on`
`09:27.12`	`nevcairiel`	`thats always nice, hehe`
`09:28.59`	`NeoTron`	`so`
`09:29.08`	`NeoTron`	`Kalecgos' Revitalize only hits non-mana users`
`09:29.21`	`NeoTron`	`I wish that they fixed it so hit hit only mana users like intended`
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`09:33.27`	`charon`	`Antiarc: something weird is going on with damage vs. heal parsing... ClassModules/Druid.lua handles heals via schoolThreatMods, but parseHeal (ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:882) never looks at schoolThreatMods`
`09:34.14`	`charon`	`perhaps it should just make the same schoolThreatMods modification that parseDamage does?`
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`09:35.43`	`charon`	`also, i just remembered that during fel rage some people returned to TPS>0 even after it eventually settled at 0... so either the TPS display has to be off, or the handling of something misses out on threatMods()`
`09:36.36`	`nevcairiel`	`mana/rage gain doesnt use the threatMods`
`09:37.20`	`charon`	`heh. what nev said`
`09:38.14`	`charon`	`Antiarc: also, if you fix (or shall i?) the schoolThreatMods handling, tranquility will get subtlety twice unless you fix Druid:Tranquility also.`
`09:40.33`	`nevcairiel`	`you continue bugging Antiarc, and i'll go to university :P`
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`09:40.54`	`charon`	`well, i'm off for lunch and a seminar too, but i'll read up on the reply in purl's log in a few hours :P`
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`09:52.07`	`Julith`	`antiarc: whould it be possible to put the spell-information in mobspells into a seperate hasmap (from spellid to info) and just link to them in the mob-map?`
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`10:04.33`	`Gibbonz\|Work`	`Zeksie: ah ok, apologise for being dense :P`
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`10:06.20`	`Lukian`	`anyone here play on a low population server?`
`10:10.11`	`Snago`	`My faction has a low population on my server, does that count?`
`10:13.20`	`Lukian`	`Snago, depends on how many the opposite faction has, also I'm curious if you get lag spikes since 2.4`
`10:14.21`	`Snago`	`I hear alliance outnumber us 1:5`
`10:14.30`	`Snago`	`what kind of lag spikes?`
`10:14.58`	`Lukian`	`spellcasts taking longer than they should, you have to wait several seconds to loot or trade. etc.`
`10:15.14`	`Lukian`	`zoning into an instance can sometimes take 5mins (usually only happens once a day for me)`
`10:15.43`	JY`	`anyone know a nice wow irc bot which can search items and so ?`
`10:15.50`	JY`	`like being able to browse wowhead on irc`
`10:16.03`	`Snago`	`No, nothing like that. Haven't played much since 2.4 though but I haven't heard the guild complain about anything like that either`
`10:16.08`	`Aiiane`	`20:02'01.640 Stoneskin Totem VIII's Death misses Stoneskin Totem VIII`
`10:16.14`	`Aiiane`	`Best combat log message ever.`
`10:16.23`	`Snago`	`Aiiane: lol`
`10:16.49`	JY`	`Stoneskin totem will be missed`
`10:16.53`	JY`	`:'(`
`10:17.09`	JY`	`rest in peace`
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`10:18.49`	`Industrial`	JY`: why use irc for searching for items when you can have a browser open next to it?
`10:19.02`	`Industrial`	`also, thats very anoying in public channels`
`10:19.08`	`Industrial`	`just like google bots ... whats the use?`
`10:19.34`	`Industrial`	`like the only thing anyone ever does with it is !google <randomguy in chan> + penis`
`10:19.51`	`Lukian`	`Industrial, it's useful if you can privmsg the bot`
`10:20.02`	`Lukian`	`especially when they do armory lookups and you are pugging heroics/etc.`
`10:20.36`	`Industrial`	`ingame inspect gogo? :P`
`10:20.45`	`Aiiane`	`http://armorylite.com`
`10:20.48`	`Lukian`	`Industrial, you want me to go to where they are?`
`10:20.51`	`Lukian`	`that doesn't sound like fun`
`10:20.58`	JY`	`Industrial: i use irssi @work`
`10:21.01`	`Industrial`	`arent you already where they are?`
`10:21.06`	`Lukian`	`Aiiane, yes I use that, but bots are faster`
`10:21.08`	JY`	`it is more discrete than opening wowhead`
`10:21.16`	`Lukian`	`Industrial, no, not when I'm considerin whether to invite them or not`
`10:21.16`	`Industrial`	`or do you dismiss people who arent leet enough and up to your gear standard just by their name?`
`10:21.19`	`Industrial`	`thats lame`
`10:21.29`	`Aiiane`	`not really luk, at least when I can have firefox autocomplete the url up to the character name`
`10:21.45`	`Lukian`	`Industrial, what?`
`10:21.45`	`Aiiane`	`so I just basically type in armo, press down arrow, and change the name`
`10:21.50`	JY`	`i wrote one once with thotbot`
`10:22.08`	`Lukian`	`Industrial, if they have a special character in there name, it makes them a pain in the arse to lookup if that's what you mean`
`10:22.21`	`Lukian`	`in which case I ask them ingame and trust them not to lie`
`10:22.31`	`Industrial`	`I mean that I think its lame to not invite people because you think their gear is not good enough for them to be in your party`
`10:22.35`	`Aiiane`	`I usually just lookup their guild then and click on their entry`
`10:22.42`	`Industrial`	`Lukian: feeling better the someone else.`
`10:22.56`	`Lukian`	`Industrial, so if a 70 hunter has less attack power than my 64 hunter, I should invite them?`
`10:22.57`	`Aiiane`	`Industrial: If I'm running a heroic, you can be sure i'm not going to invite someone in 50%+ greens`
`10:23.04`	`Industrial`	`I cans ee no other reason to look up their data on the armory quickly before partying`
`10:23.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`if you cant type their name then use a keyboard layout that lets you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US-International_-_Reversed_Dead_Key_Layout`
`10:24.12`	`Industrial`	`so how do the people in greens and blues get up to your gear standard then"?`
`10:24.18`	`Industrial`	`by shock doing heroics`
`10:24.22`	`Industrial`	`"well not in my party"`
`10:24.25`	`Industrial`	`like I said, lame.`
`10:24.27`	`CIA-39`	`03borlox * r68737 10CCopy/ (. Core.lua):`
`10:24.27`	`CIA-39`	`CCopy:`
`10:24.27`	`CIA-39`	`- added CleanUp method, that gets called every 10 minutes and clears everything but the last 20 messages. this should help to stop the increasing memory need of CCopy.`
`10:24.27`	`CIA-39`	`- added AceTimer-3.0 to the externals`
`10:24.48`	`Lukian`	`Industrial, no, by doing non-heroics and getting 'decent' gear pre-heroic`
`10:24.51`	`Aiiane`	`Industrial: no, by doing nonheroics to get blues appropriate for 70s`
`10:24.51`	`Industrial`	`dont worry, I've experienced both ends of this.`
`10:25.11`	`Lukian`	`rather than level 61-63 blues (or random suffix level 67+ greens).`
`10:25.37`	`[Ammo]`	`they gear up by doing karazhan twice`
`10:25.38`	`Vecnah`	`hi guys could you help me figure what wrong with my first noobish attempt at making an addon?`
`10:25.39`	`[Ammo]`	`;)`
`10:26.01`	`Industrial`	`[Ammo]: not if the guilds go and look up their armory and dismiss them`
`10:26.10`	`Industrial`	`[Ammo]: using an irc bot ofcourse`
`10:26.28`	`[Ammo]`	`Industrial: then join a different guild`
`10:26.44`	`Industrial`	`its just a sad practise :p (imo)`
`10:26.55`	`Vecnah`	`no help ? :(`
`10:26.56`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not`
`10:27.02`	`[Ammo]`	`scrubs in heroics suck`
`10:27.05`	`Aiiane`	`No, it's personal preference.`
`10:27.12`	`[Ammo]`	`and makes it a pain for the people in epix, who get the repair bills :)`
`10:27.15`	`Industrial`	`Aiiane: imo means in my opinion.`
`10:27.18`	`Aiiane`	`Poorer gear DOES make runs take longer, and be more risky.`
`10:27.24`	`Snago`	`Vecnah: What's your problem?`
`10:27.32`	`Vecnah`	`let me paste :)`
`10:27.55`	`Lukian`	`I allow a maximum of one scrub per heroic, and I frown upon it, because geared players shouldn't be boosting them.`
`10:28.00`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`not in the channel pls but at http://ace.pastey.net`
`10:28.01`	`Snago`	`as long as you don't paste in the channel :P`
`10:28.01`	`Aiiane`	`Yes Industrial, but there's a difference between the practice being sad, and you choosing not to engage in it`
`10:28.03`	`Industrial`	`Aiiane: and gives the other people a chance at getting better and getting better gear, but you only care about your money and gear and epixxxx right?`
`10:28.20`	`Aiiane`	`The thing is, they already have ways to get better gear.`
`10:28.27`	`Lukian`	`When they can put the effort in themselves to get better gear prior to the instance.`
`10:28.29`	`[Ammo]`	`wellfare pvp epix :)`
`10:28.29`	`Vecnah`	`http://ace.pastey.net/85380`
`10:28.32`	`Aiiane`	`I care about enjoying a game that I pay to play.`
`10:28.40`	`Vecnah`	`Snago, there it is http://ace.pastey.net/85380`
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`10:28.43`	`kadrahil`	`mm`
`10:28.45`	`Aiiane`	`And being stressed out usually doesn't correspond with enjoyment.`
`10:28.58`	`kadrahil`	`i need to get back into arena`
`10:29.12`	`Vecnah`	`seems like I have a problem getting the last CombatLogEVent`
`10:29.20`	`[Ammo]`	`your problem is your print function is in CAPS`
`10:29.26`	`Industrial`	`Aiiane: so enjoyment is getting more gear and moeny quickly without pain, and not being able to complete the instance and beat the boss(es) ?`
`10:29.27`	`Vecnah`	`event when I am out of comat this is triggered`
`10:29.35`	`[Ammo]`	`but that's probably not used since you embed aceconsole`
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`10:29.45`	`Aiiane`	`Industrial: No, enjoyment is being able to enjoy the experience.`
`10:29.55`	`Aiiane`	`That says NOTHING about gear or money.`
`10:29.58`	`[Ammo]`	`also you should not be useing the SetCurrent and get current entry`
`10:30.08`	`Aiiane`	`I run nonheroics with lesser geared people all the time.`
`10:30.13`	`Industrial`	`Aiiane: but you did mention the instance taking longer with lesser geared people`
`10:30.17`	`Aiiane`	`Yes, I did.`
`10:30.20`	`SunTsu`	`Industrial: I think it depends. I won't take a healer into a heroic which I am sure of that he can't heal an heroic, because he is undergeared. the same with a tank. If it will bei a PITA to keep him alive and cause one wipe after another, I won't accept him. Damage dealers are not that crucial, so I don't see as big a problem with them`
`10:30.26`	`[Ammo]`	`you can just have function MobInfoSync:COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED(timestamp, eventtype, srcGUId, srcAName .... )`
`10:30.29`	`[Ammo]`	`and use the vars directly`
`10:30.33`	`[Ammo]`	`that should solve most of your issues`
`10:30.49`	`SunTsu`	`Industrial: I don't care about the gold, but I care about the wasted time and the frustrating experience`
`10:30.53`	`[Ammo]`	`and now its time for roast beef lunch`
`10:30.55`	`Aiiane`	`10[03:27] SunTsu: 01Industrial: I don't care about the gold, but I care about the wasted time and the frustrating experience`
`10:30.56`	`Aiiane`	`bingo`
`10:31.22`	`Industrial`	`SunTsu: I understand, and I think someone shouldnt be LFGing for herioics in the first place when undergeared but im trying to see it from all angles :p`
`10:32.09`	`Aiiane`	`The thing is, groups are mutual arrangements`
`10:32.20`	`Aiiane`	`the fact that someone chooses to LFG for a particular thing does not entitle them to a group for it`
`10:33.26`	`Vecnah`	`thanks Ammo it's working`
`10:37.09`	`Industrial`	`and now for something completely different; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOgALTFzFbQ "May he poop on my knee?"`
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`10:38.29`	`basslingo`	`does the RegisterChatCommand in AceConsole-2.0 make a slash command out of the parameter?`
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`10:38.47`	`Xan3`	`hi`
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`10:40.25`	`Vecnah`	`how do I do a /say using ace?`
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`10:41.51`	`kilrogg`	`There is no ACE function for that ... simply use SendChatMessage API provided by WoW (http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage).`
`10:42.13`	`basslingo`	`making one would be a pointless redirection :P`
`10:42.39`	`SunTsu`	`Maybe Alar has something up his sleeves ducks and runs`
`10:43.38`	`CIA-39`	`03xan * r68738 10Mendeleev/ (. Mendeleev.toc libs/):`
`10:43.38`	`CIA-39`	`Mendeleev`
`10:43.38`	`CIA-39`	`- bump top to 2.4`
`10:43.38`	`CIA-39`	`- fixed externals`
`10:44.56`	`kilrogg`	`takes all the TOC-bump messages and throws them in the toilet.`
`10:46.12`	`basslingo`	`anyone got a good example of AceConsole-2.0:RegisterChatCommand(...) being used`
`10:46.19`	`basslingo`	`the api is kinda vague >.>`
`10:48.20`	`Aiiane`	`er?`
`10:48.50`	`Aiiane`	`SendChatMessage("Oh my god I said something!", "SAY"); ?`
`10:49.02`	`Aiiane`	`doesn't seem very vague to me o.o`
`10:49.12`	`basslingo`	`no`
`10:49.17`	`basslingo`	`RegisterChatCommand`
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`10:49.21`	`Aiiane`	`oh`
`10:49.25`	`basslingo`	`not SendChatMessage :P`
`10:49.30`	`basslingo`	`that one is e`
`10:49.32`	`basslingo`	`ez*`
`10:49.35`	`Aiiane`	`mixing up different people asking things`
`10:49.38`	`Aiiane`	`pay no attention`
`10:49.40`	`basslingo`	`^^`
`10:49.44`	`basslingo`	`no worries`
`10:50.01`	`CIA-39`	`03xan * r68739 10simpleMinimap/ (libs/ simpleMinimap.toc):`
`10:50.01`	`CIA-39`	`simpleMinimap`
`10:50.01`	`CIA-39`	`- bump toc to 2.4`
`10:50.01`	`CIA-39`	`- fixed externals`
`10:51.13`	`basslingo`	`ok, so far I get that its RegisterChatCommand(slashcommands,options,name) sooooooo ima guess that slashcommands is a table of usable slash commands, options is a table of options, and name is what to name the / command`
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`10:51.58`	`basslingo`	`function AceConsole:RegisterChatCommand(...) -- slashCommands, options, name [Line 2284 or 2285...... my texteditor screws up line numbers -.-]`
`10:52.42`	`kilrogg`	`isn't it a simple Me:RegisterChatCommand("/blabla", <optiontable>); thing ?`
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`10:53.07`	`basslingo`	`i dunno thats the thing ;)`
`10:53.21`	`basslingo`	`no API listing for it`
`10:53.50`	`basslingo`	`thats why i wanted an example :P`
`10:53.56`	`Aiiane`	`pretty sure it is`
`10:54.21`	`basslingo`	`well, lets find out :)`
`10:54.44`	`kilrogg`	`look at http://ace.pastey.net/85381 ... just taken from Aloft Source ...`
`10:54.50`	`basslingo`	`ty`
`10:55.00`	`Aiiane`	`self:RegisterChatCommand({"/quartz"}, options)`
`10:55.00`	`Snago`	`With Ace2 you can use either a plain string "myaddoncommand" or a table {"myaddoncommand", "mac"} iirc`
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`10:55.04`	`Aiiane`	`from the Quartz source`
`10:55.07`	`Aiiane`	`http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~raw,r=62943/WowAce/trunk/Quartz/Quartz.lua`
`10:55.33`	`Snago`	`oh, yes.. the / should be in the string too`
`10:55.46`	`basslingo`	`k`
`10:57.14`	`basslingo`	`I <3 long C++ compile times :) .....gives me time to code in lua`
`10:57.52`	`pleaseandthankyo`	`what are police there for really(i am sure more than half is not enforcing governmental laws)? how to get on the side of the police when encountered? should i pay money to the police/tip whenever they shows up or in advance?`
`10:58.16`	`[dRaCo]`	`in advance`
`10:58.25`	`[dRaCo]`	`just bribe the police commander`
`10:58.29`	`[dRaCo]`	`makes everything easier!`
`10:58.45`	`kilrogg`	`yeah. always good to have the police on your side ...`
`10:59.13`	`pleaseandthankyo`	`kilrogg what are some technoques? look nice and clean?`
`10:59.19`	`pleaseandthankyo`	`have to be sexy?`
`10:59.55`	`CIA-39`	`03whyv * r68740 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatBlacklist.lua:`
`10:59.55`	`CIA-39`	`Threat-2.0:`
`10:59.55`	`CIA-39`	`- Add more to threat blacklist. How about make filter for critters or below level 6?`
`11:00.06`	`kilrogg`	`well ... not being naked is probably most important ;)`
`11:00.26`	`[dRaCo]`	`looking drugged is bad, too`
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`11:09.20`	`pleaseandthankyo`	`hmm`
`11:09.27`	`pleaseandthankyo`	`what else`
`11:10.12`	`phyber`	`anyone that uses Dongle in their addon got an example of the saved variables file? I'm interested in how stuff under db.profile looks.`
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`11:23.33`	`Vecnah`	`hmm ok thanks for the answer`
`11:23.41`	`Vecnah`	`how can I send a link to an item ?`
`11:24.08`	`Vecnah`	`I successfully send the text of the link but I can't find how to send the link itself`
`11:24.21`	`basslingo`	`i can help with that`
`11:24.25`	`basslingo`	`one sec`
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`11:25.12`	`basslingo`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`11:25.17`	`basslingo`	`long i know`
`11:25.36`	`Vecnah`	`I just have Ancient Hakkir Manslayer`
`11:25.51`	`Vecnah`	`from GetLootSlotLink`
`11:25.53`	`basslingo`	`but that if done inside a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage`
`11:26.02`	`Grum`	`use wowhead?`
`11:26.05`	`basslingo`	`yea`
`11:26.09`	`basslingo`	`thats what i did :P`
`11:26.22`	`Grum`	`then post the whole thing ! ;D`
`11:26.23`	`basslingo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:26.25`	`Vecnah`	`I went to SendChatMessage to a custom channel with the item link :x`
`11:26.26`	`basslingo`	`:)`
`11:26.43`	`Grum`	`you failed`
`11:26.44`	`basslingo`	`well`
`11:26.50`	`Grum`	`~fail Vecnah`
`11:26.51`	`purl`	`You suck at everything in life, Vecnah. I hate you because you fail.`
`11:26.54`	`basslingo`	`if ya send the item id and name`
`11:26.57`	`Grum`	`<3 purl`
`11:27.06`	`basslingo`	`and have a mod send it`
`11:27.17`	`basslingo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.25`	`basslingo`	`and make it 'look' linked`
`11:27.34`	`Vecnah`	`I ll try sir :)`
`11:27.43`	`abbat`	`~nymbia`
`11:27.44`	`purl`	`such a cheater. a noob`
`11:27.44`	`Grum`	`there happens to be an addon called: lootlink! omg magic ;D`
`11:27.48`	`basslingo`	`but there is no support for linking outside of reg channels :P`
`11:27.57`	`abbat`	`~seen nymbia`
`11:28.01`	`purl`	nymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 11h 30m 3s ago, saying: 'Funkeh`: you better be checking over every line that gets committed'.
`11:28.03`	`basslingo`	`~seen tekkub`
`11:28.04`	`purl`	`tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13h 26m 50s ago, saying: 'Tekkub has a frond and a bear'.`
`11:29.00`	`abbat`	`oh`
`11:29.00`	`basslingo`	`0.o`
`11:29.00`	`abbat`	`#wowuidev ;)`
`11:29.00`	`basslingo`	`some of the last things said can get pretty funny`
`11:29.00`	`abbat`	`Sigh... where is Nymbia...`
`11:29.21`	`abbat`	`will suck for quartz bar coloring by spell for target/focus...`
`11:31.05`	`abbat`	`And also want to ask fix something on Pitbull_BarFader. If i use reverse for power bar for example, BarFader incorreclty show amount of power if they changes`
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`11:42.33`	`Vecnah`	`ok it works with chatlink`
`11:43.07`	`kalahassi_`	`Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice. , given by ora2. someone can help me with that ?`
`11:45.31`	`Lukian`	`MobSpells displays [Heroic] for zones`
`11:46.13`	`durcyn`	`kalahassi_: you've got two copies of a locale file, probably oRA2_foo/ and oRA2/foo`
`11:46.33`	`durcyn`	`check your LOD directories`
`11:47.17`	`kalahassi_`	`will do, error sounded familiar and often reported in here .. ;)`
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`11:51.40`	`abbat`	`~seen sole`
`11:51.41`	`purl`	`sole <n=chatzill@203-173-131-158.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 10m 4s ago, saying: 'yeah'.`
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`12:04.43`	`basslingo`	`-.- i got an error like that locale one before....... had Cartographer in two spots -.-`
`12:04.47`	`Ordog`	`has anybody tried throwing "all" itemname to itemid into an array ? how big would that be?`
`12:05.05`	`Ordog`	`pairs*`
`12:05.42`	`CIA-39`	`03scorpio0920 * r68741 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Dalliah.lua:`
`12:05.42`	`CIA-39`	`LittleWigs:`
`12:05.42`	`CIA-39`	`- Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324)`
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`12:08.16`	`pleaseandthankyo`	`why is it hard to admit that i'm being bullied?`
`12:08.28`	`abbat`	`btw guys`
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`12:08.50`	`durcyn`	`eh, my complete spellID-name file is 814k uncompressed, Ordog, items would be a bit larger`
`12:08.58`	`abbat`	`can someone advice with good Buff/Debuff/Cooldonws monitor for arena?`
`12:09.16`	`durcyn`	`abbat: antagonist kind of works in 2.4 now`
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`12:09.20`	`abbat`	`Or maybe some examples with Parrot (if someone make an advanced triggers)`
`12:09.36`	`abbat`	`Antagonist won't work on me ;(`
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`12:10.09`	`durcyn`	`oh? post bug reports in the forum thread and I'll try to get it sorted`
`12:10.14`	`abbat`	`I use this mod about 5 years but after 2.4 i can't see other buffs/cd's`
`12:10.31`	`durcyn`	`5 years eh, that's 2 years more than the game's been out, well done.`
`12:10.36`	`abbat`	`durcyn, it's you now maintain Antagonist? Not a sole?`
`12:10.52`	`durcyn`	`no, it's still Sole's mod, but I'm the poor schmuck who tried to fix it for 2.4`
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`12:11.10`	`abbat`	`I have my own Antagonist modification ;)`
`12:11.24`	`abbat`	`With counterspell / silcence detection and somethis more`
`12:11.32`	`abbat`	`;)`
`12:11.35`	`durcyn`	`feel free to poke around in the trunk version though, it's using 2.4 events now`
`12:11.49`	`abbat`	`using 2.4 event?`
`12:11.55`	`abbat`	`ok, it's all what i need`
`12:11.57`	`durcyn`	`COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED`
`12:12.12`	`abbat`	`this mean i can add/remove all what i want now`
`12:12.19`	`durcyn`	`lacking, of course, your modifications`
`12:12.23`	`charon`	`gnah, damn purl only writes out logs at the end of the day`
`12:12.49`	`abbat`	`durcyn, version on files.wowace.com ready to use with 2.4?`
`12:13.06`	`durcyn`	`abbat: yeah, the zips should be up to date.`
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`12:13.48`	`abbat`	`and btw, why you think that wow have only 2 years?`
`12:13.57`	`durcyn`	`three`
`12:14.09`	`abbat`	`i start playing on us servers then about 2 years ago move to .eu`
`12:14.22`	`abbat`	`my /played more then 1 year`
`12:14.25`	`durcyn`	`i was just giving you a hard time for saying five =P`
`12:14.48`	`abbat`	`i have about 200k frags btw ;)`
`12:15.00`	`abbat`	`Can i do it only in 2 years with 1 year played? :)`
`12:15.35`	`abbat`	`But anyway thanks. After 2.4 out i again try NECB but can't play with it`
`12:15.46`	`abbat`	`Antagonist much better`
`12:16.00`	`durcyn`	`ant is okay, it really needs to be rewritten though`
`12:16.13`	`abbat`	`And Sole some times before have plans to make new version of Antagonist`
`12:16.41`	`abbat`	`He start to make something but i long time don't see him. Maybe you have some info about this?`
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`12:17.01`	`durcyn`	`he's recently resurfaced on IRC, but I haven't seen any svn commits about it.`
`12:17.17`	`abbat`	`heh ;)`
`12:18.51`	`abbat`	`and btw, second reason to use Antagonist - Sole is russian, like me ;)`
`12:20.19`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68742 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc Libs/ TopScoreFu.lua embeds.xml):`
`12:20.19`	`CIA-39`	`FuBar_TopScoreFu: - Babble-Spell is dead, long live GetSpellInfo.`
`12:20.19`	`CIA-39`	`- Replace horrible spell name substitution ifcheck garbage pile with a proper loop`
`12:20.19`	`CIA-39`	`- Babble-Class is also dead, long live RAID_CLASS_COLORS, tooltip should stop sucking now.`
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`12:22.50`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68743 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: get rid of Babble-Spell. out, out\!`
`12:23.02`	`durcyn`	`fshhhh, stupid bash.`
`12:23.19`	`abbat`	`durcyn, can i send to you some of my modifications to Antagonist? Most of them - it's filres modifications (my filters have categories which i take from data files. each category it's just a class. so, if you need to filter our some druid spell - you scroll to druid section and check/uncheck what you need. also i add counterspell/silence/spelllock cd monitoring)`
`12:23.28`	`chdst`	`\!`
`12:23.29`	`durcyn`	`abbat: sure, just attach them to the forum thread`
`12:23.42`	`abbat`	`Ok. Thanks.`
`12:24.00`	`durcyn`	`you might want to re-diff against the new data files though`
`12:24.11`	`abbat`	`Hehe ;)`
`12:24.21`	`abbat`	`Now i have router with linux and lua and svn ;)`
`12:24.34`	`abbat`	`Can make diff and other thing properly now ;)`
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`12:26.35`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68744 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: You know, Babble-Spell, none of the other kids like you at all.`
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`12:27.53`	`[eu]gunder`	`durcyn: your commits comments rock!`
`12:28.15`	`durcyn`	`heh, thanks`
`12:28.30`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68745 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: Now with 100% fewer Babble-Spell references.`
`12:32.36`	`Stanzilla`	`durcyn: if you are bored...ClassTimer uses BabbleSpell, too :P`
`12:33.16`	`Zeksie`	`he has to do Cart_ExtractGas etc. yet!`
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`12:33.31`	`durcyn`	`people use that? feck.`
`12:33.40`	`kenlyric`	`why don't these things need to be babbled anymore?`
`12:33.53`	`durcyn`	`because GetSpellInfo returns localized spell names`
`12:33.55`	`Zeksie`	`cos we can use GetSpellInfo(spellID)`
`12:34.04`	`abbat`	`hmm...`
`12:34.05`	`kenlyric`	`fancy`
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`12:34.21`	`Gagorian-`	`Hmmm oRA2 still has BabbleSpell influence`
`12:34.21`	`Stanzilla`	`durcyn: ClassTimer is awesome...`
`12:34.35`	`durcyn`	`Stanzilla: huh? i meant extractgas =P`
`12:34.43`	`Stanzilla`	`lol ok sry^^`
`12:34.43`	`abbat`	`ahah ;)`
`12:34.57`	`durcyn`	`only doing carto because i've gotten permission, is the classtimer author around still?`
`12:35.01`	`durcyn`	`should poke him imo`
`12:35.07`	`Stanzilla`	`nah he's not`
`12:35.14`	`Stanzilla`	`I've done some stuff to it`
`12:35.31`	`Stanzilla`	`but only sharedmedia upgrading`
`12:36.26`	`abbat`	`openssl_0.9.8g_mipsel.ipk - huh, finally done ;)`
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`12:46.08`	`Julith-afk`	`ï»¿Lukian: "MobSpells displays [Heroic] for zones" - for which zone and which mobs are in that zone, and how old is your mobspells version?`
`12:46.57`	`Lukian`	`how do I tell version? probably a few days old`
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`12:47.39`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68746 10Cartographer/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: Professions/ZoneInfo: kill Babble-Spell. die die die die die.`
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`12:47.51`	`Julith-afk`	`does it already display the spells in the mob-tooltips?`
`12:48.05`	`Dranor`	`uh`
`12:48.19`	`Lukian`	`yes it does`
`12:48.31`	`Dranor`	`that commit message sounded like "hunt down the infidels"`
`12:48.51`	`Julith-afk`	`k, then what zone?`
`12:48.53`	`Lukian`	`AV and Isle of QD`
`12:49.06`	`Vecnah`	`hmm in 2.4 how do you get the level of the last unit you killed?`
`12:49.13`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68747 10Cartographer/libs/: Cartographer: Externals too. This stuff's everywhere.`
`12:49.40`	`Grum`	`gives durcyn a new pellet of ammo, shoot teh babbles!`
`12:49.44`	`CIA-39`	`03adirelle * r68748 10SimpleSelfRebuff/buffs/paladin.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: typo.`
`12:49.53`	`Julith-afk`	`hmm, ok, I'll look at it if I get home`
`12:50.08`	`durcyn`	`hey, libraries are serious business in these parts.`
`12:51.16`	`Julith-afk`	`lukian: thanks for the hint`
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`12:52.05`	`Lukian`	`Julith: nps :)`
`12:53.11`	`Lukian`	`Julith-afk, an error for you too: http://ace.pastey.net/85386`
`12:56.08`	`kenlyric`	`does topscorefu work yet?`
`12:56.12`	`durcyn`	`yep`
`12:56.17`	`[eu]gunder`	`yes`
`12:56.21`	`durcyn`	`last commit cleaned up the few lingering fuckups`
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`12:56.59`	`Julith`	`lukian: could you post the last error to the mobspells thread in the wowace "general addons"-subforum? I don't have this irc-log at home :)`
`12:57.12`	`Lukian`	`can do`
`12:57.20`	`Lukian`	`durcyn, awesome :D`
`12:57.20`	`Julith`	`thanks again`
`12:57.24`	`Wulfos`	`hi there ^^ quick question: can i use libraries which are made for ace2 with ace3?`
`12:57.46`	`durcyn`	`Wulfos: libraries aren't "made" for ace3, it uses libstub, which is entirely framework agnostic`
`12:57.49`	`luxus`	`at best you can use library without ace`
`12:58.24`	`durcyn`	`as long as you pull in dependencies, you can use any libstub lib with or without ace3`
`12:58.37`	`Wulfos`	`ah ok, i see ^^`
`12:58.41`	`Wulfos`	`thanks ^^`
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`13:02.35`	`kenlyric`	`wtb mapster hook for tofu`
`13:02.40`	`kenlyric`	`*ToFu`
`13:02.42`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68749 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Professions/Professions.lua: Cartographer: Professions: Oh, right. Engineering is apparently a gathering profession now.`
`13:04.59`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68750 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/ (Cartographer_ExtractGas.toc addon.lua libs/):`
`13:04.59`	`CIA-39`	`Cartographer_ExtractGas:`
`13:04.59`	`CIA-39`	`~lart Babble-Spell`
`13:04.59`	`purl`	`whacks Babble-Spell upside the head`
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`13:05.46`	`Mathrigo`	`hello... anyone know something about DrDamage? i wonder why it says that my AM has a dps of 2000 if it only ticks for 500+`
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`13:06.39`	`CIA-39`	`03rabbit * r68751 10SimpleChatMods/editbox.lua: SimpleChatMods: editbox: Hide all the textures around the edit box and the background.`
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`13:10.23`	`Silviu-`	`vhaarr nice thing @ SimpleChatMods ;)`
`13:10.42`	`luxus`	`it's time to test it again...`
`13:10.50`	`luxus`	`still using prat.. :(`
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`13:11.54`	`Silviu-`	`vhaarr one small "request" maybe u can hide the textures @ General and @ Combat log tabs ?`
`13:12.10`	`Silviu-`	`Or u still like them ;)`
`13:12.42`	`vhaarr`	`Silviu-: I think haste made a small addon that does just that`
`13:12.55`	`Silviu-`	Oh, i`ll take a look :P
`13:13.00`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`13:13.01`	`vhaarr`	`"Fane"`
`13:13.09`	`vhaarr`	`(norwegian for "Tab")`
`13:13.26`	`Silviu-`	`;)`
`13:13.40`	`kilrogg`	`a propos ... anyone also having problems with resetted chat size upon login ? mine's always 14pt ... regardless to what's in chat cache ...`
`13:14.16`	`Wulfos`	`sorry for my damn noob questions ^^ but i have still some problems with ace <.<' ... so: is there any way to run Dewdrop-2.0 with ace3?`
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`13:14.59`	`vhaarr`	`Wulfos: yes, eh, you just, you know`
`13:15.00`	`vhaarr`	`use it`
`13:15.37`	`Wulfos`	`but how? ^^ when i try it it says: Dewdrop-2.0 requires AceLibrary... am i missing something?`
`13:15.48`	`[Ammo]`	`AceLibrary`
`13:16.02`	`[Ammo]`	`which then in turn requires you to have AceOO-2.0`
`13:16.25`	`Wulfos`	`but that would be ace2.0 again o.o?`
`13:16.33`	`vhaarr`	`AceLibrary doesn't depend on AceOo`
`13:16.34`	`[Ammo]`	`you guessed right`
`13:16.42`	`[Ammo]`	`well almost all the libs using it do`
`13:16.55`	`[Ammo]`	`including dew-2.0`
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`13:17.08`	`vhaarr`	`dewdrop does not`
`13:17.46`	`Wulfos`	`confusing`
`13:17.47`	`Wulfos`	`^^`
`13:18.06`	`vhaarr`	`there's nothing confusing about it, ammo is wrong`
`13:18.15`	`vhaarr`	`Wulfos: You just need AceLibrary + Dewdrop, and you're set.`
`13:18.27`	`[Ammo]`	`I thought dewdrop uses it to mixin its methods`
`13:18.29`	`[Ammo]`	`doesn't it`
`13:18.50`	`[Ammo]`	`or not`
`13:18.51`	`[Ammo]`	`ohwell`
`13:18.55`	`kilrogg`	`:D`
`13:19.02`	`iKON`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:19.14`	`Wulfos`	`and where do i get acelibrary from? i cant see it in the files.wowace.com directory`
`13:20.21`	`Industrial`	`svn.wowace.com`
`13:20.28`	`Industrial`	`_with_ an svn client.`
`13:20.30`	`[Ammo]`	`Wulfos: in the Ace2 folder`
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`13:23.16`	`[SW]Dodge`	`g'morning all`
`13:25.30`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68752 10Numen/ (. Numen.lua Numen.toc NumenData.lua embeds.xml): Numen: get outta here, Babble-Spell.`
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`13:26.01`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68753 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: Note to self, when creating local functions, don't use global names.`
`13:26.13`	`Grum`	`durcyn: haha you're really going wild there =D`
`13:26.40`	`durcyn`	`i didn't realize it was a competition`
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`13:27.00`	`Wulfos`	`ok ^^ then thank you again ^^ ill try it, if i have still problems i come back ^^`
`13:27.03`	`Grum`	`competition? its just fun to see all those 'babble-spell'-kills :D`
`13:27.15`	`Dranor`	`rating buster and statlogic still use babble :P`
`13:27.21`	`Grum`	`uhoh!`
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`13:27.27`	`durcyn`	`yeah, but i'm not the ratingbuster author, so.`
`13:27.52`	`Grum`	`you've made lots of addons seeing all the changes ^^`
`13:28.44`	`durcyn`	`nah, i had explicit permissions from the maintainers.. touching others code ain't polite.`
`13:29.31`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68754 10Cartographer_Data/Cartographer_Data.toc:`
`13:29.31`	`CIA-39`	`Cartographer_Data :`
`13:29.31`	`CIA-39`	`- bump toc 20400`
`13:29.55`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68755 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/Cartographer_ExtractGas.toc:`
`13:29.55`	`CIA-39`	`Cartographer_ExtractGas:`
`13:29.55`	`CIA-39`	`- bump toc 20400`
`13:30.27`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68756 10Cartographer_Fishing/Cartographer_Fishing.toc:`
`13:30.27`	`CIA-39`	`Cartographer_Fishing:`
`13:30.27`	`CIA-39`	`- bump toc 20400`
`13:30.30`	`kalahassi_`	`people will notice now that babble.spell isnt needed anymore ;)`
`13:30.50`	`luxus`	`i hope i can get rid of babble 2.2 soon :/`
`13:31.02`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68757 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc:`
`13:31.02`	`CIA-39`	`Cartographer_Herbalism:`
`13:31.02`	`CIA-39`	`- bump toc 20400`
`13:31.29`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68758 10Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Mining.toc:`
`13:31.29`	`CIA-39`	`Cartographer_Mining:`
`13:31.29`	`CIA-39`	`- bump toc 20400`
`13:31.38`	`Dranor`	`speaking of babble... whats the point of babble-class?`
`13:32.11`	`CIA-39`	`03next96 * r68759 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests.toc:`
`13:32.11`	`CIA-39`	`Cartographer_Quests:`
`13:32.11`	`CIA-39`	`- bump toc 20400`
`13:32.15`	`luxus`	`i think it will return the class names? :D`
`13:32.17`	`dylanm`	`Dranor: Situations in which you only get the localized class name... there are still one or two.`
`13:32.34`	`dylanm`	`One of the social tabs.`
`13:32.39`	`dylanm`	`Not all of them, but at least one.`
`13:33.19`	`vithos`	`~seen sylvanaar`
`13:33.23`	`purl`	`sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 14m 59s ago, saying: 'still looking for an explaination on the memory use if anyone wants to take a stab at it'.`
`13:33.33`	`Stanzilla`	`~seen Ominous`
`13:33.34`	`purl`	`ominous <n=Ominous@85-210-17-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 134d 17h 52m 58s ago, saying: 'haha i got an e-mail today from someone ordering me to bring ClassTimer upto date by upgrading it to use Rock'.`
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`13:34.34`	`Stanzilla`	`durcyn: I think you don't need a permission for ClassTimer...134days is a long time^^`
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`13:34.58`	`Dranor`	`so we have say... a 90% of the addons that use babble-class when it's not needed right?`
`13:35.12`	`charon`	`re`
`13:35.18`	`durcyn`	`Stanzilla: why can't you? :o`
`13:35.30`	`Stanzilla`	`durcyn: because I can't really code :P`
`13:35.40`	`durcyn`	`it's monkey work, you just look for babble spell and replace it`
`13:36.01`	`dylanm`	`Dranor: No idea.`
`13:36.08`	`Stanzilla`	`i would fuck it up and you're "in the flow" right now :P so please! :)`
`13:36.25`	`durcyn`	`i don't even know wtf class timers is`
`13:36.45`	`charon`	`~seen Antiarc`
`13:36.47`	`purl`	`antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (16h 29m 53s) #wowace (16h 29m 53s) #curseforge (16h 29m 53s). Has said a total of 190 messages. Is idling for 4h 11m 57s, last said: 'So there's no special handling needed'.`
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`13:55.22`	`Pkekyo\|`	`physical activiti is AWSUM =D`
`13:58.39`	`Industrial`	`AESHUM`
`13:59.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`JES`
`14:04.40`	`charon`	`Antiarc/nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/85391`
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`14:05.24`	`charon`	`i seriously need to figure out how to track a branch in git-svn, shuffling diffs and tracking svn branches by hand both suck`
`14:06.00`	`Vulcanus`	`Gurok no understand.`
`14:06.00`	`Vulcanus`	`XD`
`14:08.13`	`charon`	`Gurok listen. Charon have change to Omen, Antiarc need to look at. Previous method bad. Gurok go find better method.`
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`14:09.13`	`Vulcanus`	`I actually understood what you meant now XD`
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`14:09.50`	`Bruners`	`will there be a mailbox on the new island?`
`14:12.36`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68760 10BigBrother/ (7 files): BigBrother: clean up locales, should stop tossing errors for extra strings in non-enUS clients, sorry about that.`
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`14:14.19`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68761 10aX_RaidStatus/ (aX_RaidStatus.toc locales/zhTW.lua):`
`14:14.19`	`CIA-39`	`aX_RaidStatus(Ace3):`
`14:14.19`	`CIA-39`	`- New: zhTW locales from NightOwl`
`14:14.19`	`CIA-39`	`- Pushed to 1.0 Full Release. Have not found any bugs lately. Enjoy!`
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`14:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68762 10aX_RaidStatusConfig/ (aX_RaidStatusConfig.toc locales/locales.xml locales/zhTW.lua):`
`14:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`aX_RaidStatusConfig:`
`14:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`- New: zhTW locales from NightOwl`
`14:14.58`	`CIA-39`	`- Pushed to 1.0 Full Release. Have not found any bugs lately. Enjoy!`
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`14:16.25`	`durcyn`	`Bruners: phase 4 iirc`
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`14:26.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`hmm...if a kid gets his mum knocked up, and the kid is a girl...then he knocks HER up as well... would he then be both her father, uncle and grandfather at the same time? :/`
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`14:27.23`	`Ellipsis`	`Pkekyo\|: no, he'd just be a redneck`
`14:27.36`	`Ellipsis`	`also hi`
`14:27.36`	`Pkekyo\|`	`well played, Ellipsis`
`14:27.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`hai :)`
`14:27.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`plonks Ellipsis`
`14:27.57`	`Ellipsis`	`likes it`
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`14:29.44`	`Pkekyo\|`	`'sup?`
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`14:31.19`	`CIA-39`	`03benumbed * r68763 10DaHud/ (5 files):`
`14:31.19`	`CIA-39`	`DaHud:`
`14:31.19`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:32.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what the hell is 'Query failed: Too many connections (10.0.0.133)' supposed to tell me? >.<`
`14:33.23`	`Ellipsis`	`I'm going to guess that a query failed because of too many connections`
`14:33.28`	`Pkekyo\|`	`duh >.<`
`14:33.29`	`Ellipsis`	`possibly to 10.0.0.133`
`14:33.31`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what connections?`
`14:33.37`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what is 10.0.0.133?`
`14:33.44`	`Vulcanus`	`an IP maybe`
`14:33.45`	`Ellipsis`	`an IP address?`
`14:33.46`	`Stanzilla`	`TCP/IP connections :O`
`14:33.52`	`Pkekyo\|`	`DUH`
`14:34.01`	`SunTsu`	`RCF1918 address space ;)`
`14:34.04`	`Pkekyo\|`	`captain obvious + minions are obvious?`
`14:34.07`	`Vulcanus`	`And this guy is from my country... /shame`
`14:34.08`	`Vulcanus`	`XD`
`14:34.24`	`Pkekyo\|`	`now we're getting somewhere... RCF1918...what is it?`
`14:34.38`	`Vulcanus`	`www.google.com :p`
`14:34.45`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: Sometimes called inofficial addresses. Addresses used for LANs`
`14:34.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Vulcanus: I'm trying to figure out what's triggering the error message`
`14:34.55`	`Vulcanus`	`the settings in the SQL server`
`14:35.00`	`Pkekyo\|`	`my router's gone tits-up or something then?`
`14:35.17`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: ISPs normally don't route thát address space, like 192.168.x.x`
`14:35.20`	`Vulcanus`	`does it have D cup?`
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`14:35.33`	`durcyn`	`SunTsu: "don't normally", eh.`
`14:35.40`	`Pkekyo\|`	`which one of you are right? 'cause there's no SQL server on my LAN`
`14:35.49`	`durcyn`	`i'm pretty sure if any one started announcing an rfc1918 prefix, they'd get laughed off the internet`
`14:35.58`	`Vulcanus`	`what server are you trying to query, pke?`
`14:36.10`	`Pkekyo\|`	`nettby`
`14:36.22`	`Vulcanus`	`then their lan has an SQL server at that location`
`14:36.28`	`SunTsu`	`durcyn: Well, ist is routed, some ISPs also use that kind of address space for their own equipment`
`14:36.36`	`Vulcanus`	`and that server has a limited number of concurrent queries`
`14:36.39`	`Vulcanus`	`which it just reached`
`14:37.03`	`durcyn`	`Pkekyo\|: oh, sorry, i had my finger on the "norwegian denial of service attack" button`
`14:37.15`	`Vulcanus`	`øyh`
`14:37.19`	`Pkekyo\|`	`ah, that makes sense...I reckon...`
`14:37.19`	`Pkekyo\|`	`can't see why their SQL server would return errors containing local IPs to external clients though :/`
`14:37.21`	`CIA-39`	`03totalpackage * r68764 10InFlight_Load/ (Defaults.lua InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc):`
`14:37.21`	`CIA-39`	`InFlight_Load`
`14:37.21`	`CIA-39`	`- Shattered Sun Staging Area shortened`
`14:37.21`	`CIA-39`	`- code cleanup`
`14:37.27`	`CIA-39`	`03totalpackage * r68765 10InFlight/ (Defaults.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc):`
`14:37.27`	`CIA-39`	`InFlight:`
`14:37.27`	`CIA-39`	`- updated the way localization of defaults is handled`
`14:37.28`	`CIA-39`	`- updated some random default values`
`14:37.30`	`CIA-39`	`- code cleanups`
`14:37.42`	`durcyn`	`because they are stupid. move on.`
`14:37.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`^^`
`14:38.35`	`Pkekyo\|`	`it made me want to do something evul to their server`
`14:38.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`..if only I knew how :>`
`14:38.40`	`Vulcanus`	`maybe because revealing external servers would be a security risk, or because their config file is pointing to their LAN, and the connection function returned the IP in the error message, that iit got passed as an argument`
`14:39.27`	`Pkekyo\|`	`shouldn't be a problem to find what IP their website is running off, correct?`
`14:39.35`	`Vulcanus`	`ping it`
`14:40.25`	`Pkekyo\|`	`exactly, so I'd be more worried about revealing internal IPs than external ones`
`14:40.37`	`Pkekyo\|`	`'cause the external ones people can find either way...no?`
`14:40.54`	`Pkekyo\|`	`meh, nevermind, I won't be able to screw up their server anyways, it's of no concequence :`
`14:40.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`:p`
`14:41.32`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: Maybe it would help if you said wth you are doing anyways to get that message`
`14:42.05`	`Pkekyo\|`	`SunTsu: I pressed 'log out'`
`14:42.32`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68766 10BigBrother/localization_deDE.lua: BigBrother: fix deDE locale, thanks cremor.`
`14:42.35`	`Pkekyo\|`	`:p`
`14:43.27`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: So this is a WoW-client message?`
`14:43.48`	`Pkekyo\|`	`SunTsu: nah, community-type website`
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`14:43.55`	`Zergreth`	`hai`
`14:43.58`	`Pkekyo\|`	`hai`
`14:44.19`	`Zergreth`	`everytime im changing some graphics option, my minimap stops displaying anything, i just see my arrow and pings and other players/notes left`
`14:44.22`	`Zergreth`	`but not the map itself`
`14:44.29`	`Zergreth`	`i can only fix it by restarting or reloading`
`14:44.32`	`Zergreth`	`using vMinimap right now`
`14:44.34`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: Then they most possibly have some servers which communicate using 10.0.0.0/24 addresses`
`14:44.37`	`Zergreth`	`any way to do this somehow else?`
`14:45.05`	`Pkekyo\|`	`SunTsu: so it's a case of bad network design? or is it 'fine' to do that sort of thing?`
`14:45.37`	`Pkekyo\|`	`oooh...tasty! I want an MP5! :>`
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`14:46.40`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: No, not bad design, just the same anybody else would do. That their SQL server isn't responding just is a whole different story ;)`
`14:47.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`yeah, it just puzzled me that they would freely 'publish' their internal server adresses`
`14:48.43`	`durcyn`	`they aren't. they're just not suppressing sql errors.`
`14:48.57`	`durcyn`	`again, move on =P`
`14:49.26`	`Pkekyo\|`	`isn't that in essence the same thing, as the unsupressed sql errors give out the internal adresses? :P`
`14:49.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`if not, I'd like to understand what the hell is going on :>`
`14:49.55`	`carde`	`Well, sure, but it does not really matter much since you can't get to that IP# from the internet anyway.`
`14:50.34`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: Doesn't matter, the only ones that can reach them is their provider, if they don't use a firewall/packet filter`
`14:50.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`ah`
`14:50.57`	`Pkekyo\|`	`so couldn't haxxorize the stuff anyways? :P`
`14:51.19`	`carde`	`Not unless you first break into their webserver.`
`14:51.28`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: Only if you can get on the same physical network ;)`
`14:51.48`	`carde`	`.. or break into their serverroom and bring the server with you.`
`14:52.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`yeah, knew I'd have to get through the webserver, just wondering if it's possible or not`
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`14:54.18`	`Pkekyo\|`	`on another matter...anyone know the approx cost of CR123A Batteries?`
`14:54.39`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: No, you won't have to go through their webserver, but you had to get onto the same network that connects them to the internet, so you can set a route to their internal net pointing zu their router. and this only holds true if they don't use a packet filter`
`14:55.01`	`SunTsu`	`s/zu/to`
`14:55.15`	`deadlock`	`hi all, does anyone know of a stopwatch/ time tracking addon?`
`14:56.17`	`genetik`	`i use fu_timer`
`14:57.09`	`deadlock`	`genetik: fu_timer? i dont see that on a google search.`
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`14:59.20`	`genetik`	`http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_TimerFu/FuBar_TimerFu-r66326.2.zip`
`14:59.52`	`deadlock`	`genetik: thanks`
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`15:03.32`	`deadlock`	`genetik: Thanks that's exaectly what i wanted`
`15:03.44`	`genetik`	`no problem`
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`15:10.15`	`Kemayo`	`kenlyric: I've found myself without much of an urge to do that, as HandyNotes_FlightMasters neatly fills the ToFu gap.`
`15:10.36`	`Polarina`	`ï»¿~botmail for Xinhuan: I think you pruned the TSP algorithm a little too much. It can optimise in foreground within a second on a decent machine with a fair amount of nodes. Increasing the quality of a generated route at the cost of twice the performance hit is what would satisfy the average user in my opinion. Thank you. :)`
`15:10.53`	`kenlyric`	`yeah, I don't really want to get two mods just to get icons on my map, i'll jus tlive without them :)`
`15:12.22`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68767 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (. embeds.xml): Cartographer_Fishing: re-add Babble-Spell for the time being, since Talismonger uses it. grrrr.`
`15:17.05`	`Zeksie`	`durcyn: BugSack: [2008/04/09 16:16:10-15705-x1]: Cartographer_Herbalism\addon.lua:563: Babble-Herbs-2.2: Reverse translation for "Adamantite Deposit" does not exist`
`15:17.10`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68768 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/ (Cartographer_ExtractGas.toc embeds.xml libs/): Cartographer_ExtractGas: use embeds.xml, re-add Babble-Spell for Talismonger.`
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`15:17.22`	`Zeksie`	`moused over a mine when herbing.`
`15:17.24`	`durcyn`	`huh`
`15:17.43`	`durcyn`	`s your other profession mining?`
`15:17.46`	`durcyn`	`is*`
`15:17.50`	`Zeksie`	`on another toon`
`15:18.26`	`durcyn`	`meh, i'm just going to revert the profession modules, talis is an ugly beast.`
`15:18.56`	`Zeksie`	`nooes.. fix.. babble-spell must die`
`15:19.06`	`durcyn`	`the upgrade path is GatherMate, tbh`
`15:19.26`	`durcyn`	`~seen kagaro`
`15:19.28`	`purl`	`kagaro is currently on #wowace (1h 39m 2s), last said: 'Dashkal: be sure to turn it off complety in things like raids .. no player logins during raid .. bam'.`
`15:19.43`	`durcyn`	`unless he ^ wants to fix his lib =P`
`15:20.02`	`vhaarr`	`how do people deal with Shade of Akama now, is it customary to kill the spawning adds (except Guardians), or are they all just offtanked and all DPS nuke channelers?`
`15:20.21`	`Fisker-`	`Pkekyo\|`
`15:20.24`	`Fisker-`	`i'm having sex with you`
`15:20.26`	`Zeksie`	`melee dps cannelers, rest kill everything cept the guardians.`
`15:20.34`	`kagaro`	`durcyn: Ill get around to adding it directly to talismonger, tbh switch to GatherMate`
`15:20.42`	`Fisker-`	`vhaarr dps + cc stuff except guardians`
`15:20.47`	`Fisker-`	`melee + locks goes channelers`
`15:20.48`	`durcyn`	`Zeksie: what he said`
`15:20.55`	`Fisker-`	`that's how we do it atleast`
`15:20.56`	`Zeksie`	`but.... i have all my data on carto..`
`15:21.06`	`Fisker-`	`also`
`15:21.10`	`Fisker-`	`paladin tanks severely suck for this encounter`
`15:21.24`	`Fisker-`	`go for druid or warrior tank on each entrance, and if you have a paladin tank use him for the guardians`
`15:21.28`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`15:21.29`	`kagaro`	`Zeksie: just import it`
`15:21.30`	`kilrogg`	`there's predefined data for Gatermate ... called Gathermate_Data I think`
`15:21.44`	`kagaro`	`or use GatherMate_Data`
`15:22.01`	`Zeksie`	`but... that's so much effort.`
`15:22.05`	`Zeksie`	`i'm so lazy.`
`15:22.06`	`Polarina`	`kagaro: Wowhead is unaccurate for node locations.`
`15:22.20`	`Fisker-`	`i want you Zeksie`
`15:22.24`	`kagaro`	`then just import your existing cart nodes`
`15:22.38`	`Fisker-`	`perhaps i want you to save disabling stuff in the "bufftehraid" module :P`
`15:22.42`	`Polarina`	`kagaro: Of course I will. Just telling you in case you didn't knew. :)`
`15:23.02`	`kagaro`	`i tried to skip nodes from wowhead that seem way out of place`
`15:23.12`	`kagaro`	`in the harvesting script`
`15:23.30`	`kagaro`	`so far ive I only have a handful of bogus nodes`
`15:23.45`	`Zeksie`	`Fisker-- uh ?`
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`15:25.04`	`Fisker-`	`so i don't have to disable blessing of freedom trackers everytime i reload or login :<`
`15:25.11`	`durcyn`	`Zeksie: not able to replicate it here. is _Mining set to With Profession, or forcibly enabled?`
`15:30.12`	`CIA-39`	`03scorpio0920 * r68769 10Omen/Localization/zhTW.lua:`
`15:30.12`	`CIA-39`	`Omen:`
`15:30.13`	`CIA-39`	`- zhTW localization recheck.`
`15:31.08`	`Zeksie`	`meh. it should be with profession, but enabled`
`15:31.19`	`Zeksie`	`just turned it all off after importing to gathermate tho :)`
`15:31.27`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Antiarc ping`
`15:31.30`	`durcyn`	`can't find a damn adamantite node on my herbalist :(`
`15:31.51`	`Zeksie`	`Fisker-- tried with newish versions? thought i handled that.`
`15:33.06`	`Zeksie`	`with the learning option.`
`15:33.47`	`Fisker-`	`Zeksie always updated`
`15:33.52`	`Fisker-`	`but haven't considered LEARNING stuff`
`15:33.57`	`Fisker-`	`2 sec`
`15:34.44`	`ben`	`Where do I go to find out how to add slash commands to my ace3 addon?`
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`15:35.42`	`Fisker-`	`well then i'll have to disable learning completely Zeksie ?`
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`15:36.12`	`Zeksie`	`nah. on the bufftehraid/singles menu, disable learning for Freedom`
`15:36.49`	`Fisker-`	`ah`
`15:37.40`	`Fisker-`	`yay`
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`15:37.56`	`Fisker-`	`you are my bestest friend`
`15:38.37`	`CIA-39`	`03sungam * r68770 10Librameister/Librameister.lua: Librameister: - Fixed an error with Flash of Light resilience libram`
`15:39.01`	`Zeksie`	`:)`
`15:39.12`	`CIA-39`	`03benumbed * r68771 10DaHud/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`15:39.12`	`CIA-39`	`DaHud:`
`15:39.12`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:39.48`	`CIA-39`	`03Tristan * r68772 10EquivalencePoints/EquivalencePoints.lua:`
`15:39.48`	`CIA-39`	`EquivalencePoints:`
`15:39.48`	`CIA-39`	`- Some debug code added to catch an error I can reproduce.`
`15:39.54`	`Polarina`	`Babble-Spell needs to die? Just remove it from the repository...`
`15:40.15`	`Zeksie`	`would screw up ppl who install stuff that's not been updated.`
`15:40.33`	`Polarina`	`It would still have Babble-Spell die. :)`
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`15:41.24`	`kilrogg`	`more like the Rambo way of doing it ... "What's that ? ... That's Babble ... Well it won't babble after I'm finished with it ..."`
`15:43.34`	`ben`	`I just want slash commands for my addon :[`
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`15:43.49`	`Elsia`	`heya`
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`15:53.06`	`Julith`	`lukian: if I remember right you've postet a mobspell error some hours ago? could you send it to me again please?`
`15:54.11`	`Lukian`	`sure`
`15:54.15`	`Fisker-`	`http://ace.pastey.net/85386`
`15:54.20`	`Fisker-`	`I BEAT YA LUKIAN RAWR`
`15:54.24`	`Fisker-`	`I AM A GOD`
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`15:54.48`	`Lukian`	`http://ace.pastey.net/85386`
`15:54.57`	`Lukian`	`lol Fisker-`
`15:55.04`	`Fisker-`	`owned >D`
`15:55.08`	`Fisker-`	`:D`
`15:55.12`	`Lukian`	`no u!`
`15:55.14`	`Zhinjio`	`G'morning, folks.`
`15:55.16`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`15:55.22`	`Lukian`	`DPS Fisker- down while he AoE's`
`15:55.55`	`Lukian`	`laughs at Fisker-'s pathetic attempt to harness the power of crystals`
`15:56.04`	`Julith`	`thanks`
`15:58.02`	`Vecnah`	`Ammo can you help me get the id of an item from a link please`
`15:58.54`	`Esine`	`does RegisterEvent() and UnregisterEvent() have much overhead?`
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`16:00.19`	`Zeksie`	`no`
`16:00.37`	`Esine`	`so I can call it everytime I should update a tooltip for example?`
`16:00.43`	`Zeksie`	`Vecnah: select(3,GetItemInfo(link))`
`16:01.00`	`Zeksie`	`you CAN.. but why would you need to?`
`16:02.25`	`Vecnah`	`hmm it's not working`
`16:02.26`	`Esine`	`well, see, I'm making an addon that indexes every person you mouseover of.. their gear, talents, etc. I have a working version here that does that (still lacking in GUI) but I was wondering if I should register INSPECT_TALENT_READY event only once at the start or only when UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT is called?`
`16:02.40`	`Vecnah`	`you all laugh at me if I past my addon`
`16:02.45`	`Vecnah`	`paste :x`
`16:02.49`	`*** join/#wowace Honk (i=sigma@forschungslabor.dyndns.org)`
`16:02.55`	`Vecnah`	`but could someone help?`
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`16:04.20`	`Julith`	`antiarc: ping`
`16:04.29`	`vithos`	`~asktoask`
`16:04.30`	`purl`	`This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.`
`16:04.31`	`vithos`	`~pastey`
`16:04.31`	`purl`	`it has been said that pastey is the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. Look at the topic of the channel you're in to see if they have a specific pastey.net they like to use, otherwise, you can use whatever you want -- yournick.pastey.net, flood.pastey.net, or just pastey.net. Go to one of these URLs, insert the text, press the 'Paste' button, and copy & paste the resulting URL in the channel you were about`
`16:06.27`	`Vecnah`	`http://ace.pastey.net/85396`
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`16:06.57`	`Vecnah`	`here if somone can help me with it , I am close to completion and i won't bug you when I extract this id :x`
`16:07.24`	`ben`	`If I have an addon that also is meant to be used as a library by other addons, how to I make it work with LibStub?`
`16:08.46`	`EvilJohn-`	`I'm not a wow export, but I can't imagine registering events in a mouse over event is a good idea`
`16:08.55`	`EvilJohn-`	`expert, rather`
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`16:09.49`	`ckknight`	`Esine: I'd use LibTalentQuery`
`16:10.42`	`Zhinjio`	`Xinhuan: ping`
`16:10.50`	`Nandini`	`that's a good idea; that way your addon won't be fighting with other addons over who gets to inspect next`
`16:10.59`	`NM\|Xinhuan\|Guru`	`yes?`
`16:11.22`	`Zhinjio`	`was it you who did BM2I, or someone else?`
`16:11.28`	`Zhinjio`	`I have a request`
`16:11.38`	`Stanzilla`	`Ammo's`
`16:11.45`	`NM\|Xinhuan\|Guru`	`not me`
`16:11.48`	`kergoth`	`pretty sure the bulkmail stuff was hyperchipmunk`
`16:11.53`	`kergoth`	`who's been mia`
`16:11.55`	`Zhinjio`	`why the heck did I think it was you.`
`16:12.01`	`Zhinjio`	`oh well, nm.`
`16:12.04`	`Xinhuan`	`because i do Postal`
`16:12.34`	`Vecnah`	`Zhinjio, could you look at my code please :x`
`16:12.48`	`Stanzilla`	`kergoth is right..was hC`
`16:12.52`	`SunTsu`	`Hm, is there a mail addon, that keeps a mail backlog, so I can track whom I sent what and when?`
`16:13.08`	`Zhinjio`	`Vecnah: whats up?`
`16:13.12`	`kergoth`	`anyone know of a small addon to just set a default mail send destination, fill it in if i hit send without one?`
`16:13.20`	`Vecnah`	`http://ace.pastey.net/85396 here I got a problem with a link`
`16:13.21`	`kergoth`	`thats the one feature i'm missing using betterinbox+expressmail+prioritymail`
`16:13.39`	`Vecnah`	`well I used Chatlink as a required dependency but now I think it's bugging me`
`16:13.48`	`kergoth`	`well, it could probably just fill it in the first time i go to the inbox, i think prioritymail makes sure it persists`
`16:13.49`	`SunTsu`	`kergoth: bulmail still works great and does exactly that`
`16:13.58`	`kergoth`	`i know what bulkmail does`
`16:14.03`	`Zhinjio`	`what problem are you getting?`
`16:14.04`	`kergoth`	`i used it for a long, longtime`
`16:14.09`	`kergoth`	`but i dont need anything that fancy right now`
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`16:14.24`	`Vecnah`	`well , I have link in the chatwindow but I can't get it's id`
`16:14.41`	`Vecnah`	`for I need to parse the item rarity and stuff`
`16:14.48`	`kergoth`	`i had mine set up to send leather to my lw, ore to my jc, engineering mats to a bank char so they just floated back & forth in the mail ether, and boe greens went to the bank to be sold..`
`16:14.54`	`kergoth`	`but i dont mind doing that manually now`
`16:15.46`	`Zhinjio`	`what specific error does it give you?`
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`16:16.46`	`Vecnah`	`I get no error just it won't parse the itemName`
`16:17.22`	`Vecnah`	`logically I pass a linkId to the function which shall work :x`
`16:17.31`	`Vecnah`	`but I don't how come it doesn't`
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`16:17.56`	`Zhinjio`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:18.44`	`Zhinjio`	`and the self:Print(item) line prints it correctly into your chatframe?`
`16:18.58`	`Vecnah`	`it prints the objet with the link`
`16:19.06`	`CIA-39`	`03rabbit * r68773 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: playernames: Fix guild name colors.`
`16:19.09`	`Vecnah`	`that I can click on and see the informations`
`16:19.13`	`Zhinjio`	`so its clickable ... ok.`
`16:19.39`	`Zhinjio`	`itemName should probably be local.`
`16:19.45`	`Zhinjio`	`not that that would change anything`
`16:20.14`	`Vecnah`	`no doens't work either`
`16:20.29`	`CIA-39`	`03jncl 07AmmoMan * r68774 10Jncl/ (Utils.lua libs/):`
`16:20.29`	`CIA-39`	`AmmoMan: Removed libs directory`
`16:20.29`	`CIA-39`	`- Bugfix for metatables`
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`16:21.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~reverse download.macromedia.com`
`16:21.36`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~reverse www.macromedia.com`
`16:21.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~reverse gateway.2wire.net`
`16:22.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~reverse 192.168.1.254`
`16:22.19`	`Fisker-`	`~reverse shut the fuck up sag_ich_nicht`
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`16:22.47`	`Zeksie`	`~reverse so say we all`
`16:23.05`	`[eu]gunder`	`sag_ich_nicht: are you aware that you can msg purl for this?`
`16:23.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Fisker- shut up i'm doin sploits`
`16:23.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[eu]gunder: yeah`
`16:23.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'm lazy thio`
`16:23.16`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`*tho`
`16:23.23`	`Lukian`	`durcyn, here?`
`16:23.37`	`Lukian`	`pvp records are overwriting pve records in topscorefu?`
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`16:23.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Lukian: better ask Arrowmaster about that`
`16:24.02`	`durcyn`	`i didn't touch that part, talk to arrowmaster`
`16:24.18`	`Lukian`	`I'll update it and confirm I guess`
`16:24.22`	`durcyn`	`tell him he smells like cheese`
`16:24.40`	`Lukian`	`Judgement of Command - Normal: 502 - Critical: 180`
`16:24.53`	`Lukian`	`rank 1 joc really shouldn't overwrite my rank 6 record :p`
`16:25.05`	`[eu]gunder`	`XD`
`16:25.27`	`CIA-39`	`03jncl * r68775 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/TomTom.lua UIElements1.lua):`
`16:25.27`	`CIA-39`	`Skinner: Bugfix for ChatFrame movement error`
`16:25.27`	`CIA-39`	`- Bugfix for ChatConfig errors`
`16:25.27`	`CIA-39`	`- Updated TomTom skin`
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`16:26.58`	`CIA-39`	`03benumbed * r68776 10DaHud/modules/Buffs/ (Buffs.lua Core.lua):`
`16:26.58`	`CIA-39`	`DaHud:`
`16:26.58`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`16:36.26`	`Polarina`	`So I had forget to disable the reception of Cartographer Nodes and I got some nodes I didn't want and couldn't undo it in-game. So, I simply crashed the game and I'm very lucky that the buggy SavedVariables didn't get saved. :D`
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`16:37.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`I HAD FORGT`
`16:38.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`I HAD FORGET`
`16:38.01`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`I HAD FORGET`
`16:38.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`HAD FORGET`
`16:38.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`FORGET`
`16:38.14`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`RGET`
`16:38.15`	`Snago`	`Can you pls shut up too?`
`16:38.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`GET`
`16:38.17`	`Polarina`	`s/forget/forgot/`
`16:38.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`E`
`16:38.21`	`CIA-39`	`03rabbit * r68777 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: playernames: Typo fix.`
`16:38.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`E`
`16:38.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hey shut up i'm trying to do an IRC zoom here`
`16:38.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:(`
`16:38.57`	`Health`	`What's the name of the addon that auto turns on combat logging to file for WWS?`
`16:39.12`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`loggerhead`
`16:39.52`	`ben`	`You need an addon for that now?`
`16:40.26`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`16:40.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but it turns off the logging outside of the instance`
`16:40.37`	`ben`	`Oh`
`16:40.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`removing spam from pvping morons and questers`
`16:40.47`	`Health`	`Thanks`
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`16:40.52`	`ben`	`Screw that, I have 504MB of combat log and I like it`
`16:40.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`facepalm`
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`16:43.52`	`Olison`	`Merl_: mmm mhud_threat is somehow not detecting Threat-2.0, but it's loaded`
`16:45.24`	`Merl_`	`I'll take a peak Olison`
`16:46.42`	`Xan3`	`i use quartz and fubar_tofu.. but i never see a cast car during the flight after 2.4, it's normal?`
`16:47.25`	`Zeksie`	`meh... accidentally clicked off the Enabled button in Carto look'n'feel, now it's broke and i can't enable it ><`
`16:47.44`	`Olison`	`Mapster :o) /dance`
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`16:50.13`	`Merl_`	`Olison: Have you installed it with externals? I'm not getting any errors on any of my installations.`
`16:50.27`	`Nandini`	`Xan3: your problem is discussed in the InFlight forum thread also, with a possible solution`
`16:51.17`	`Xan3`	`k thz`
`16:51.24`	`Xan3`	`i'll se`
`16:52.05`	`Julith`	`might it be that you receive combat messages from group members which are not in your zone?`
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`16:53.07`	`Olison`	`Merl_: http://pastie.caboo.se/177982 :)`
`16:53.12`	`Olison`	`on login`
`16:53.59`	`Merl_`	`Olison: And you're sure you have mHud_Threat\Libs\Threat-2.0\*`
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`16:54.54`	`Matrix110`	`You have attempted too many group actions in a short period of time. Please wait momentarily before attempting further group actions. Oo`
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`16:59.42`	`Bruners`	`i get this bug where my escape button stops working in wow, any known causes for this?`
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`17:03.43`	`Xan3`	`ï»¿Nandini: that is a bug?`
`17:03.46`	`genetik`	`Bruners: check to see if one of your macros is stuck. it's happened to me on occasion because of that.`
`17:03.56`	`Xan3`	`ï»¿Nandini: all people have that?`
`17:04.02`	`Honk`	`Bruners: happens to me as well.. sometimes`
`17:04.05`	`Honk`	`shrug`
`17:04.11`	`kergoth`	`if you're a hunter, the auto/steady/kc macro hangs up a lot, you just need to get a crit and hit kc, then it'll free up`
`17:04.46`	`Bruners`	`no way of forcing it off?`
`17:05.47`	`NeoTron`	`how much AP does imp hunters mark give to melee?`
`17:05.51`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68778 10Threat-2.0/: Threat-2.0: nuke my branch in preparation for simpler layout`
`17:05.59`	`Bruners`	`110 ?`
`17:06.58`	`Bruners`	`5/5 imp gives 100% of the hunters mark to melee`
`17:07.11`	`kadrahil`	`http://wowhead.com/?spell=19425`
`17:07.34`	`vithos`	`of the base amount, so yeah 110, except that it doesn't work at all last time i checked`
`17:07.36`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68779 10Threat-2.0/: Threat-2.0: branch just the actual lib directory`
`17:07.45`	`vithos`	`which was about a week ago`
`17:08.12`	`Bruners`	`im planning on speccing out of it tbh`
`17:08.20`	`vithos`	`it would be good if it worked`
`17:08.21`	`Bruners`	`and into efficieny`
`17:08.24`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68780 10Omen/: Omen: make branch`
`17:08.34`	`Vecnah`	`wohooohoh it's working :x`
`17:08.35`	`kergoth`	`given the mana issues post 2.4, efficiency is more tempting than it used to be`
`17:08.36`	`kergoth`	`sadly`
`17:08.40`	`Vecnah`	`someone to test my addon?`
`17:08.52`	`dylanm`	`What does it do`
`17:08.54`	`vithos`	`what changed about hunter mana post 2.4?`
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`17:09.10`	`Vecnah`	`it's does sync mobinfo with people you choose to`
`17:09.39`	`kergoth`	`hunters don't generally have much spirit/int compared to casters, so the 2.4 mana regen changes hosed us, lots of us are finding ourselves needing to drink all the time, or not being able to keep AotH up`
`17:09.58`	`kergoth`	`i'm sure the MM builds aren't hurt as bad as the others`
`17:10.05`	`vithos`	`we used to get 0 regen from spirit, effectively`
`17:10.08`	`Julith`	`lukian: could you tell me the mobs in "Isle of QD Heroic"?`
`17:10.08`	`vithos`	`so i don't see how we get less now`
`17:10.10`	`Bruners`	`oh noes 15g to respec`
`17:10.22`	`dylanm`	`This is the first I've heard of this.`
`17:10.41`	`vithos`	`unless you mean out of combat`
`17:10.46`	`kergoth`	`i do`
`17:10.55`	`vithos`	`but imp hunter's mark wouldn't be worth it unless you're talking about 25man raiding`
`17:10.57`	`Lukian`	`Julith, sure`
`17:11.14`	`Lukian`	`Sunblade Warlock`
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`17:11.38`	`Julith`	`vecnah which mobinfo does it sync? (means where does it get the info from?)`
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`17:12.22`	`Vecnah`	`well I send the date over a channel when someone loot something`
`17:12.24`	`Julith`	`lukian: thanks`
`17:12.42`	`Vecnah`	`giving the level of the mob + the loot it had`
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`17:12.52`	`Vecnah`	`then I save that to mobinfo`
`17:13.06`	`Vecnah`	`from what you get from the channel`
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`17:13.20`	`CIA-39`	`03Tristan * r68781 10EquivalencePoints/extras/Gems.lua:`
`17:13.20`	`CIA-39`	`EquivalencePoints:`
`17:13.20`	`CIA-39`	`- Updated gems with a fresh rip from wowdb`
`17:14.08`	`Bruners`	`kergoth: so no way of forcing the macro to stop hanging?`
`17:14.29`	`Julith`	`so it is a synced loot table?`
`17:14.31`	`kergoth`	`Bruners: someone came up with a solution involving splitting hte macro and /click'ing the second from the firs,t havent had a chance to try it myself yet`
`17:14.43`	`kergoth`	`Bruners: http://www.bigredkitty.net/forums/index.php?topic=1003.0`
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`17:15.58`	`vithos`	`i tried that briefly. there were claims it would make KC not cause autos to be clipped with the 3:2 macro`
`17:16.04`	`vithos`	`but that wasn't the case for me`
`17:16.10`	`kergoth`	`aw`
`17:16.24`	`kergoth`	`well, i just want it to not hang the damn macro`
`17:16.36`	`vithos`	`yeah, that might be achieved by it`
`17:16.49`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68782 10Omen/Modules/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Omen: Stabilize all bar sorts (other than AOE mode) too`
`17:16.49`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68783 10Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Druid.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):`
`17:16.49`	`CIA-39`	`Threat-2.0: fix Subtlety and energy gains`
`17:16.49`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix handling of schoolThreatMods for healing spells. This should`
`17:16.49`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:16.51`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix Tranquility handling so subtlety won't apply twice`
`17:16.52`	`vithos`	`but i never get stuck KCs anymore anyway`
`17:16.55`	`CIA-39`	`- Apply threatMods() to energy gains`
`17:16.58`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68784 10Omen/Modules/ (AOE/AOE.lua Overview/Overview.lua): Omen: Loop to #bars instead of max involved players/pets in modes that do not display player-based bars`
`17:16.59`	`vithos`	`just stuck bestial wraths`
`17:17.12`	`vithos`	`and non-macrod shots`
`17:17.16`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68785 10Omen/Modules/Healer/Healer.lua: Omen: Drop a wrong comment`
`17:17.35`	`charon`	`Antiarc: ^`
`17:17.46`	`charon`	`i hope i'm settled for sane branch work now`
`17:18.23`	`charon`	`the above four are what i've already pasted or mailed, but you never commented on. you should have an easier time merging or discarding them now ;)`
`17:18.33`	`nevcairiel`	`he is sleeping`
`17:18.45`	`nevcairiel`	`imho .diff files is easier then merging from a branch though :D`
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`17:19.05`	`genetik`	`nevcairiel: it's the same thing, though`
`17:19.19`	`nevcairiel`	`nah its not`
`17:19.20`	`charon`	`the actual trouble comes from tracking trunk imo`
`17:19.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`also, he already gave him diffs, from what I saw here ;]`
`17:19.36`	`nevcairiel`	`like i said, he sleeps :P`
`17:19.44`	`Gnarfoz`	`earlier than that. :p`
`17:19.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`anyway, windows patch day, brb`
`17:19.54`	`genetik`	`nevcairiel: sure it is.. svn merge just takes the diff of the changes between R1 and R2 and applies it to the destination path`
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`17:20.10`	`nevcairiel`	`genetik: sure, but the work for the person applying them is different`
`17:20.21`	`Kazie`	`Does anyone else than me have problem with KgPanels after updating it? ... My panels are acting wierd.. suddenly all panels had either same color, or didn't show at all or blended all togehter.. and shit.. Anyone got some fix for this?`
`17:21.04`	`genetik`	`nevcairiel: heh.. i dunno. i use subversion all day long at work, so i guess i'm just used to it.`
`17:21.17`	`nevcairiel`	`maybe your svn isnt as slow as the wowace svn :D`
`17:21.20`	`genetik`	`haha`
`17:21.21`	`CIA-39`	`03Tristan * r68786 10Enhancer/ (. filelist.wau locale/zhCN.lua):`
`17:21.21`	`CIA-39`	`Enhancer:`
`17:21.21`	`CIA-39`	`- removed filelist.wau`
`17:21.23`	`genetik`	`that could be`
`17:21.26`	`genetik`	`actually, very likely`
`17:21.42`	`Bruners`	`kergoth: but escape stops autoshot, just not clearing target and feeding pet`
`17:21.46`	`Bruners`	`silly bug really`
`17:23.31`	`NeoTron`	`tonight - time to see if we can get brutallus to enrage`
`17:23.33`	`NeoTron`	`and then to die`
`17:23.43`	`nevcairiel`	`you didnt even get him to enrage yet?`
`17:25.18`	`Zhinjio`	`sweet... my guild got kalithresh and mag first kills this week.`
`17:25.28`	`Aiiane`	`grats`
`17:25.38`	`Aiiane`	`they nerfed the hell out of Mag though`
`17:25.50`	`Bruners`	`maggy now click the cubes for you`
`17:25.58`	`Aiiane`	`and wait... kalithresh?`
`17:26.08`	`Aiiane`	`like... steamvaults?`
`17:26.18`	`dylanm`	`Karathress you mean?`
`17:26.59`	`Zhinjio`	`sorry, yes.`
`17:27.11`	`Maelos`	`Mag is seriously a joke now.`
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`17:27.24`	`Aiiane`	`seriously`
`17:27.31`	`vithos`	`what's the fewest mag has been killed with?`
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`17:28.06`	`Maelos`	`Not that it's any sort of accomplishment but we did it with 19 just randomly one nght. I think heroic mgt bosses are more challenging than he is.`
`17:28.22`	`Maelos`	`The cube change completely trivialized any coordination you needed.`
`17:28.34`	`Tornhoof`	`ping elsia, want some lazysync.lua errors again?`
`17:28.43`	`Elsia`	`Tornhoof: always`
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`17:29.03`	`Bruners`	`magtheridon was a huge cock back when he was needed for attunement`
`17:29.05`	`Aiiane`	`Basically yes, Maelos - just need 5 people who know what the heck is going on`
`17:29.07`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68787 10Recount/ (6 files):`
`17:29.07`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`17:29.07`	`CIA-39`	`- Added new earthshield tracking. No longer needs healing sync and is not heuristic if the proper combat log events are seen (which should be most of the time).`
`17:29.07`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed sneaky infinite look in detail view`
`17:29.08`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed bug in graph view`
`17:29.19`	`Aiiane`	`and then a decently geared main tank and some healers and dps who don't absolutely fail`
`17:29.25`	`Tornhoof`	`[2008/04/09 19:24:46-2977-x1]: Recount-68718\LazySync.lua:97: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'Healing' (a nil value)`
`17:29.47`	`Maelos`	`Barely even that.`
`17:29.57`	`Maelos`	`5 people to stand there and click when you call it out.`
`17:30.10`	`Maelos`	`Oh you screwed up your click? No problem, click again.`
`17:30.34`	`Primer`	`infinite look?`
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`17:35.28`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68788 10Recount/LazySync.lua:`
`17:35.28`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`17:35.28`	`CIA-39`	`- Another bug fix.`
`17:35.29`	`Elsia`	`Tornhoof: thanks, should be fixed now`
`17:35.55`	`NeoTron`	`Maelos: there's no cooldown on clicks at all?`
`17:36.18`	`Maelos`	`None`
`17:36.43`	`Maelos`	`You basically win if you get out of phase 1.`
`17:36.57`	`NeoTron`	`that's amazing`
`17:37.15`	`NeoTron`	`they have a tendence to take hard to wtflol?!`
`17:37.22`	`NeoTron`	`Shahraz is a good example of that`
`17:37.57`	`Maelos`	`We're just about to do Shahraz this week.`
`17:38.20`	`Zhinjio`	`whats the quick little script to get the name of the frame your mouse is on again`
`17:38.29`	`Maelos`	`We raid 3 nights a week for 4 hours, so we're just getting through BT.`
`17:39.27`	`CIA-39`	`03Tristan * r68789 10EquivalencePoints/ (EquivalencePoints.lua News.lua locale/enUS.lua):`
`17:39.27`	`CIA-39`	`EquivalencePoints:`
`17:39.27`	`CIA-39`	`- Updated locale/enUS.lua as there where some problems according to translators.`
`17:40.16`	`ulic`	`is Tristan here under another name?`
`17:41.57`	`charon`	`nevcairiel: dunno. perhaps i should have asked first. but cut&pasting via pastey can't possibly be easier than cut&pasting a diff (or merge) command that i could even prepare for him`
`17:42.10`	`CIA-39`	`03saroz * r68790 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Enable range checking by default`
`17:42.10`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`17:42.12`	`charon`	`and yes, svn diff \| patch -p0 should be the same as svn merge .`
`17:42.26`	`Maelos`	`nevcairiel: Let's duke it out about profiles :)`
`17:43.05`	`charon`	`nevcairiel: and lastly, having it up in branches gives others a chance to look at it or even try it`
`17:43.19`	`nevcairiel`	`Maelos: pretty easy, "but should people who prefer to focus on providing a specific look-and-feel for a group of addons also know how to code?" <- IMHO, yes they should :)`
`17:43.29`	`CIA-39`	`03danielbarron * r68791 10RaidBuffStatus/ (Core.lua RaidBuffStatus.toc ReadMe.txt):`
`17:43.29`	`CIA-39`	`RaidBuffStatus:`
`17:43.29`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed MotW report. It incorrectly reported 4 or 5 points spent even when they where not.`
`17:44.03`	`Maelos`	`nevcairiel: In an ideal world everyone would also know how to fix any code issues they run into, but they don't`
`17:44.39`	`Maelos`	`I tend to lean towards engineering for the average joe, to a reasonable extent`
`17:45.39`	`nevcairiel`	`And a importer is really that simple, its just a deep table copy script, which probably is 10-20 lines, thats robust and all :)`
`17:46.10`	`nevcairiel`	`actually i think i wrote one for another guy some weeks back`
`17:46.29`	`Maelos`	`Honestly if there was a generic tool to do that I'd prefer it myself`
`17:46.37`	`Maelos`	`I hate having to include WTF folders`
`17:47.04`	`charon`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Tests/test.lua`
`17:47.08`	`charon`	`there's a deepcopy() in that`
`17:47.19`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah the deepcopy itself is easy`
`17:47.21`	`charon`	`i believe it's robust, if you find a bug please patch it directly in that file ;)`
`17:47.28`	`luxus`	`fish down?`
`17:47.31`	`Maelos`	`Well, the issue isn't only that`
`17:47.46`	`luxus`	`ok working again`
`17:47.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i even had a API to specify the target DB and the source table, with validation and all!`
`17:47.50`	`Maelos`	`While you're copying, if you've got addons using AceDB-3, you need to copy them for the user's character - server.`
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`17:48.04`	`Maelos`	`Rather than whatever the source happens to be.`
`17:48.09`	`Maelos`	`So you need to know which addons care about that.`
`17:48.18`	`Maelos`	`I guess you could templatize it.`
`17:48.18`	`nevcairiel`	`its way simpler then you think`
`17:48.19`	`nevcairiel`	`really`
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`17:48.59`	`nevcairiel`	`you just mock-up a tabel with all the settings, configured the way you want them`
`17:50.24`	`luxus`	`nevcairiel: it is possible to fix one bug in ag_unitframes?`
`17:50.32`	`luxus`	`in the ace3 version`
`17:50.59`	`Zhinjio`	`anyone happen to know what the name of the Bongos Pet frame is?`
`17:51.20`	`luxus`	`when i go in raid my party hides.. but my party targets still visable`
`17:51.23`	`Maelos`	`nevcairiel: Let's assume you do that once. Then the structure of one of those tables changes.`
`17:51.56`	`Maelos`	`If there's a set of tools to deal with packaging then it makes sense`
`17:51.57`	`CIA-39`	`03xinhuan * r68792 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix backpack icon not showing up.`
`17:52.25`	`vithos`	`Kaelten: another ad. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/52/clipboard01cropic4.jpg`
`17:52.55`	`Kaelten`	`vithos, are you US or EU?`
`17:53.03`	`vithos`	`US`
`17:54.07`	`NeoTron`	`vithos: that is a scary add regardless of popping up`
`17:54.15`	`NeoTron`	`wrestling soundtrack cd? ugh`
`17:54.45`	`vithos`	`also WAU's list is always empty when i first open it now`
`17:54.55`	`vithos`	`have to click installed and back to get a list`
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`18:00.18`	`Kaelten`	`hrm`
`18:02.26`	`contego`	`the more scary thing is the information gathering trought wau... but it can be fun to make it erronus to...`
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`18:05.56`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68793 10Recount/Tracker.lua:`
`18:05.56`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`18:05.56`	`CIA-39`	`- Another fix.`
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`18:07.48`	`Antiarc`	`charon: Thanks for the druid stuff. However, energy gains aren't threat-modified :)`
`18:08.06`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: thanks for fixing that threat bug`
`18:08.16`	`NeoTron`	`should help a lot in making it more accurate`
`18:08.24`	`NeoTron`	`less "wtf did I pull for" moments`
`18:08.29`	`Antiarc`	`yup`
`18:08.35`	`CIA-39`	`03antiarc * r68794 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Druid.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-2.0: Fix threat on druid heals.`
`18:08.48`	`NeoTron`	`wait what I meant to say is.. WTF ANTIARC OMEN SUCKS YOU MADE US WIPE ON KALEC AT 1% BC I PULLED AGGROZ!!!`
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`18:09.14`	`NeoTron`	`funny thing is, we did wipe because I pulled aggro w/o knowing I would and died rather early :(`
`18:09.16`	`sica`	`Nolook: LOLZ! YOU SUCKS!`
`18:09.31`	`NeoTron`	`our only 1% wipe on kalec though`
`18:09.32`	`Kaaosa`	`lol`
`18:09.49`	`Kaaosa`	`I wish there were guilds on my server that could go to Sunwell :[`
`18:10.30`	`NeoTron`	`we have 3 with kills in there`
`18:10.42`	`Kaaosa`	`Furthest progressed guild on Ravenholdt is 6/9 BT D:`
`18:11.38`	`NeoTron`	`a 4th guild has had 7 days on kalecgos w/o a kill`
`18:11.53`	`NeoTron`	`and the last high end competing guild crashed and burned`
`18:12.10`	`CIA-39`	`03antiarc * r68795 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatBlacklist.lua: Threat-2.0: Revert Mana Feeder blacklisting`
`18:12.35`	`Kaaosa`	`Heh`
`18:13.20`	`charon`	`Antiarc: oh, i see. does that hold even if a "0 threat" modifier like Insignificance is in effect?`
`18:13.22`	`Nolook`	`There's something special about being told I sucks the moment I join IRC. ;-)`
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`18:13.49`	`CIA-39`	`03julith 07Julith * r68796 10MobSpells/MobSpells.lua:`
`18:13.49`	`CIA-39`	`MobSpells:`
`18:13.49`	`CIA-39`	`- fixed bug at filter for spells`
`18:13.49`	`CIA-39`	`- hopefully fixed the bug of [Heroic] tag at non-instance zones`
`18:13.54`	`Antiarc`	`charon: Yes, which is why Shadow Priests pull aggro on Bloodboil so easily :)`
`18:14.25`	`nevcairiel`	`is the mana regen i gain from shadow priests attributed to them? o.O`
`18:14.44`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: any idea waht percentage the threat reporting was off for a druid? did it double the fixed threat component or all threat`
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`18:15.03`	`nevcairiel`	`NeoTron: our guess is 20-ish or so`
`18:15.10`	`nevcairiel`	`you cant be sure really`
`18:15.12`	`NeoTron`	`right`
`18:15.19`	`NeoTron`	`but that feels about right`
`18:15.27`	`NeoTron`	`although I'd think it might be a bit higher`
`18:15.28`	`Antiarc`	`I'm buesstimating between 18 and 24%`
`18:15.33`	`Antiarc`	`guesstimating*`
`18:15.42`	`NeoTron`	`I've pulled when below 100% threat`
`18:15.47`	`NeoTron`	`which would mean >30%`
`18:16.00`	`Pkekyo\|`	`WTB a sheet of polycarbonate plx...nao!`
`18:16.01`	`Cyn1`	`so a full BT clear recount uses up ~38megs`
`18:16.06`	`nevcairiel`	`really depends on the fight and the rotation used by the tank`
`18:16.09`	`NeoTron`	`although I think it might have been immediately after a big burst of dmage too`
`18:16.13`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: 1 / 1.3 = 0.76 = 24% off :P`
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`18:16.17`	`Elsia`	`Cyn1: latest version?`
`18:16.19`	`Cyn1`	`at around 25 you see a really bad stutter in game`
`18:16.20`	`Cyn1`	`yes`
`18:16.30`	`Cyn1`	`is their soemthign i can do`
`18:16.41`	`Elsia`	`I committed a few data reduction measures late yesterday night`
`18:16.42`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: tricky :P`
`18:16.54`	`Elsia`	`yes`
`18:16.54`	`Cyn1`	`i have a really fast machine, is there somethign i can to to help reduce the useage`
`18:17.06`	`Elsia`	`turn down filter options to only collect yourself and party, and no time data`
`18:17.15`	`Cyn1`	`Elssia was it after the lazy sync fix`
`18:17.17`	`charon`	`Antiarc: that explains a lot. sorry for the mistake`
`18:17.18`	`Mytos`	`just increase what your allocating to warcraft`
`18:17.31`	`Cyn1`	`if so that was the version i was using`
`18:17.47`	`Pkekyo\|`	`where the hell do you buy polycarbonate?`
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`18:17.55`	`NeoTron`	`problem with memory usage is that higher mem usage slows down the GC`
`18:18.03`	`Elsia`	`you want 68624 or later for the data reduction stuff`
`18:18.09`	`NeoTron`	`I managed to get my fresh raid UI size down to about 35MB so even with a 35MB recount I'm ok now`
`18:18.12`	`Cyn1`	`sec ill check`
`18:18.45`	`Antiarc`	`charon: no worries, it's an easy one to make :)`
`18:19.12`	`Cyn1`	`68718`
`18:20.13`	`Cyn1`	`gc= garbage collection or GC= global cooldown`
`18:20.17`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: I dunno how far you plan to take recount but to reduce memory, any chance you can add the ability to turn off certain data collection?`
`18:20.21`	`NeoTron`	`Cyn1: garbage`
`18:20.27`	`Cyn1`	`ic`
`18:20.48`	`NeoTron`	`it has a performance impact (on my computer which has a few years old CPU) when I get up around 80-120 MB`
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`18:20.58`	`Cyn1`	`32k shadowbolts in pahse 3 on ros is fun`
`18:21.01`	`NeoTron`	`worse case I had was up over 150 MB. that was bad`
`18:21.06`	`Elsia`	`NeoTron: you can control a lot of data collection already`
`18:21.12`	`NeoTron`	`no`
`18:21.15`	`NeoTron`	`I mean`
`18:21.21`	`NeoTron`	`I can control what entities aer collected`
`18:21.29`	`NeoTron`	`I can't control what data are collected about the entities`
`18:21.41`	`NeoTron`	`like I don't care about rage/mana/energy gain for example`
`18:21.56`	`NeoTron`	`maybe half or more of the metrics are of no interest to me`
`18:21.58`	`Elsia`	`well I may make modes optional eventually`
`18:22.01`	`Esine`	`Does AceDB3 load the entire SavedVariables to memory?`
`18:22.17`	`NeoTron`	`Esine: don't think there's a choice - rather aced3 doesn't control hte loading`
`18:22.19`	`NeoTron`	`WoW does`
`18:22.25`	`Esine`	`uh oh ok..`
`18:22.35`	`Esine`	`is it okay to have a savedvariables of say 30 megs in size?`
`18:22.35`	`dylanm`	`WoW loads that file as a variable. You can't put that off really.`
`18:22.48`	`Esine`	`as a maximum`
`18:22.49`	`kergoth`	`acedb3 is just an interface to the saved variable, handling profiles and defaults`
`18:23.02`	`dylanm`	`I guess you could LoD an addon with another SV later on...?`
`18:23.08`	`NeoTron`	`30 MB is big but it can happen`
`18:23.13`	`Esine`	`hm ok.`
`18:23.25`	`NeoTron`	`sure it'd take a while to load :)`
`18:23.33`	`Cyn1`	`esine yesterday i had to dump my recount varibles files casue it was bugging reount i kep getting error on lines 726 and 729 on _main.lua file`
`18:23.41`	`Cyn1`	`i didnt see the problem after`
`18:23.49`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: what would be interestig to know is how much data each of the metrics use`
`18:23.50`	`Cyn1`	`but who knows i have raided today`
`18:24.12`	`NeoTron`	`there isn't a "memuse(array)' type function in lua is there? :P`
`18:24.33`	`Elsia`	`NeoTron: I'll try measure it.. main is sitll damage and healing I guess`
`18:24.37`	`on1y`	`you mean? recount error on gui_mail.lua line 729?`
`18:24.42`	`Antiarc`	`Julith: What approach did you take for fixing mobs showing up in the wrong zone after zoning?`
`18:25.03`	`Antiarc`	`We couldn't fix it for world zoning (since the mobs would still be close) but for instances we could just put a cooldown after zoning before any more data is captured.`
`18:26.18`	`Julith`	`didn't take any approach, I've only fixed the "heroic isle of QD"-bug (hopefully)`
`18:26.54`	`Antiarc`	`What was it?`
`18:27.24`	`Julith`	`I've thought about the zone-problem, I have no satisfying idea, by now I whould rather keep false zoned information instead of loosing much right information`
`18:27.32`	`Antiarc`	`I agree`
`18:27.41`	`Antiarc`	`Just need to add a right-click menu to manually delete entries`
`18:28.45`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: does it have 5 buckets? total, currentm past 4 fights?`
`18:28.52`	`NeoTron`	`or does it keep past fights all separated?`
`18:29.04`	`Julith`	`since I could reproduce it by now I could only increase the HeroicCheck by checking the second return value of IsInInstance() for "party" or "raid". It will at least fix the heroic alterac valley`
`18:29.13`	`NeoTron`	`hrm it's more complex than that I'm sure`
`18:29.30`	`Julith`	`don't know if it will fix the heroic isle of QD`
`18:29.39`	`Elsia`	`NeoTron: 6 but am MT heroic so have to watch my healing :P`
`18:29.47`	`NeoTron`	`hehe`
`18:29.51`	`Antiarc`	`Woo!`
`18:29.55`	`Antiarc`	`Our anvil is at 93%!`
`18:29.57`	`NeoTron`	`ircing while healign heroic MT :P`
`18:30.00`	`Antiarc`	`We're gonna finish it today`
`18:30.06`	`NeoTron`	`we were at 87 or so last night I think`
`18:30.20`	`Maelos`	`Ours was at 70% last night`
`18:30.20`	`Julith`	`so..lets find out at which server antiarc is :)`
`18:30.26`	`durcyn`	`cenarion circle`
`18:30.28`	`durcyn`	`iirc`
`18:30.29`	`Antiarc`	`Cenarion Circle, US :)`
`18:30.38`	`vithos`	`our armory is at 99% :/`
`18:30.42`	`Tornhoof`	`around 70% i think`
`18:30.46`	`Julith`	`narf...i wanted to get it myself :P`
`18:30.51`	`Maelos`	`It's been going at about 30% a day`
`18:30.59`	`ckknight`	`Julith: don't you want to know which one I'm on?`
`18:31.07`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`18:31.29`	`sica`	`wants to know ckknight's server!`
`18:31.35`	`Julith`	`up to this moment...no, but now: yes :)`
`18:31.35`	`ckknight`	`sica: 60`
`18:31.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`I guess not, he's a dude and all ;D`
`18:31.47`	`ckknight`	`err, you said server not level`
`18:31.49`	`ckknight`	`lousy font`
`18:31.58`	`ckknight`	`Julith: yea, I'm in Antiarc's guild`
`18:32.00`	`mykx`	`unfortunately the gem vendor wont be unlocked until phase 4 with the alchemy lab`
`18:32.07`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`18:32.07`	`kergoth`	`hehe, http://xkcd.com/408/`
`18:33.06`	`Gnarfoz`	`mykx: the gem vendor spawns at p3 begin, and starts selling stuff as soon as anvil & forge are finished. this is before p4 starts`
`18:33.20`	`Aiiane`	`badge vendor you mean?`
`18:33.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`err right :\`
`18:33.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`nevermind`
`18:33.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`^^`
`18:33.45`	`Julith`	`antiarc: anyway, whould it be possible to store the spellinformation in an extra hashmap (spellID->info) and just store the spellID in the mob-table?`
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`18:34.28`	`Julith`	`it whould make it possible to gather informations for spells without knowing the mob of it`
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`18:35.02`	`Antiarc`	`That seems like it would make more sense, yes.`
`18:35.14`	`Antiarc`	`We'd have to do it without breaking the existing data though`
`18:35.18`	`Antiarc`	`Which should be doable easily enough`
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`18:36.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight, so, which one is you, Glenda or Reysa? ^^`
`18:36.49`	`ckknight`	`Glenda`
`18:37.21`	`ckknight`	`why?`
`18:37.22`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: what I like the most with spellinfo is that it checks if a spell can be partially/fully resisted`
`18:37.25`	`NeoTron`	`that's pretty cool`
`18:37.27`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68797 10BigBrother/localization_deDE.lua: BigBrother: deDE typo fix. you guys should all just use english clients, ffs.`
`18:37.30`	`Gnarfoz`	`just curious :)`
`18:37.36`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: Thank Julith for that :)`
`18:37.38`	`Gnarfoz`	`durcyn: word`
`18:37.50`	`NeoTron`	`Julith: thanks for that`
`18:37.58`	`NeoTron`	`I'm worried about the size of the addon`
`18:38.08`	`NeoTron`	`I'd like to be able to disable it entirely outside of party/raid instances`
`18:38.15`	`NeoTron`	`don't care much about open world mobs`
`18:38.32`	`NeoTron`	`if, of course, it shows itself to be using too much memory`
`18:38.37`	`Antiarc`	`The memory usage, you mean?`
`18:38.39`	`Antiarc`	`Right`
`18:38.44`	`Julith`	`I didn't do it for you! I did it just for me! Give it back! (means: np ;)`
`18:38.59`	`NeoTron`	`Know the feeling. smae reason I made Magic Marker`
`18:39.06`	`NeoTron`	`it's all for me. just happens to be useful to others :P`
`18:40.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`best rogue metagem?`
`18:40.15`	`Julith`	`:)`
`18:41.03`	`Antiarc`	`Gnarfoz: PVE?`
`18:41.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`ergh, I knew I forgot something. PVP in this case`
`18:41.24`	`Antiarc`	`For PVE, Relentless Earthstorm, 12 AGI/+3% crit damage`
`18:41.26`	`_rane`	`the one that gives ap and movement speed`
`18:41.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`PVE is obviously RED ;)`
`18:41.27`	`NeoTron`	`stam/stun resist?`
`18:41.40`	`Antiarc`	`Stam/stun resist is eh for a rogue`
`18:41.55`	`Antiarc`	`I'm using the 20 AP/run speed enchant`
`18:41.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`can't decide on stam/stun (because I could as well get Surefooted) or runspeed/ap`
`18:42.01`	`Antiarc`	`Because I have Surefooted on my boots`
`18:42.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`heh yeah, figured as much`
`18:42.15`	`Julith`	`antiarc: I will continue adding my stuff into my branch of mobspells and I'll keep it in sync with the trunk. So you can choose yourself what you will merge to the trunk (and I don't have to fear to break it :)`
`18:42.36`	`Antiarc`	`Julith: Hehe, cool. I'm working on moving spells into their own table as we speak.`
`18:44.33`	`Julith`	`nice, I'm currently trying to defuse the "COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED"-function a bit...nearly 200 lines is way to much`
`18:49.41`	`CIA-39`	`03saroz * r68798 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Add Drums of Battle, with a little hack until I sort something clever out (It's not in BabbleSpell).`
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`18:51.34`	`nevcairiel`	`Saroz: who needs babble spell, use GetSpellInfo!`
`18:52.36`	`Saroz`	`doing`
`18:52.40`	`Vulcanus`	`I should fix Cryolysis to work with getspellinfo shouldn't I`
`18:52.42`	`Saroz`	`but it needs a cache`
`18:52.50`	`Saroz`	`dont wanna run GetSpellInfo every 1 sec or so`
`18:52.50`	`Saroz`	`:\|`
`18:53.46`	`Snago`	`hehe, time for some metatable magics then ;)`
`18:53.49`	`Vulcanus`	`caches are my specialty XD what you do is make a global table that houses all spells, then before each call to getspellinfo you check if its in the table ;p`
`18:54.00`	`Vulcanus`	`at least that's how I'd do it in PHP :p`
`18:54.04`	`Antiarc`	`Metatable!`
`18:55.51`	`Saroz`	`ye`
`18:55.54`	`Saroz`	`but cba atm`
`18:56.06`	`Antiarc`	`http://ace.pastey.net/85406 - enjoy!`
`18:56.10`	`Saroz`	`Vulcanus, static variables are better, globals are ugly`
`18:56.25`	`vithos`	`anyone know if killing a vendor would make it spawn a limited availability recipe?`
`18:56.27`	`Ironhand`	`is there a way in CooldownTimers2 to actually have the bars stack upward from the anchor? setting the option to stack up has new cooldowns appear on top of the list, but still has the entire stack below rather than above the anchor`
`18:56.29`	`Vulcanus`	`Maybe so, I'm not that well versed in lua sadly`
`18:56.37`	`Saroz`	`thx Antiarc`
`18:58.19`	`Antiarc`	`That should be GetSpellInfo(v)`
`18:58.20`	`Antiarc`	`Not GetSpellInfo(t)`
`18:58.21`	`Antiarc`	`btw`
`19:01.14`	`Saroz`	`why dont this work: http://ace.pastey.net/85408`
`19:01.36`	`Saroz`	`SpellCache[35476]`
`19:03.13`	`dylanm`	`Don't you want to return...?`
`19:03.18`	`Saroz`	`I do`
`19:03.24`	`dylanm`	`Asking Antiarc mostly.`
`19:03.45`	`Saroz`	`http://ace.pastey.net/85410`
`19:03.52`	`Polarina`	`For mobs, if you kill a mob and its corpse disappears, is it a guarantee that you'll never ever again see another mob with the same GUID?`
`19:03.54`	`Saroz`	`that works it seems`
`19:04.24`	`Antiarc`	`Saroz: Oh. return name`
`19:04.32`	`Antiarc`	`At the end of the __index function`
`19:04.47`	`Saroz`	`ye`
`19:04.57`	`Saroz`	`so how does it hit the cache?`
`19:04.59`	`Saroz`	`it just does?`
`19:05.48`	`Julith`	`polarina: no, actually it seems to happen pretty often that a GUID reappears when the old mob is dead (or despawned)`
`19:06.40`	`NeoTron`	`just read a review of Outside.`
`19:06.50`	`Polarina`	`Julith: Then how do you tell which mob is what?`
`19:06.53`	`dylanm`	`You only ever get to __index if the table can't find something.`
`19:07.00`	`Antiarc`	`Saroz: Read up on metatables, but yeah, what dylanm said`
`19:07.09`	`Saroz`	`ok`
`19:07.11`	`Cyn1`	`whats a better mod for trackign buffs`
`19:07.11`	`Cyn1`	`http://www.onlyalad.net/stuff/myui.jpg`
`19:07.12`	`Antiarc`	`It checks the table for your requested index, and if it can't find it, runs the __index function`
`19:07.21`	`Cyn1`	`i think that elkbars are too big`
`19:07.23`	`Antiarc`	`t[name] = foo sets the index so the function doesn't get re-run over and over`
`19:07.30`	`Cyn1`	`and takeup too much space`
`19:07.33`	`Saroz`	`cool`
`19:07.43`	`Maelos`	`Cyn1: they're completely customizable`
`19:07.46`	`NeoTron`	`aha i knew it`
`19:07.47`	`Maelos`	`Why not just make them smaller`
`19:07.48`	`NeoTron`	`http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=myui.jpg&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2`
`19:08.15`	`Cyn1`	`they are but do you think icons only woudl be better`
`19:08.22`	`Cyn1`	`casue that is alot of space`
`19:08.23`	`Maelos`	`not really`
`19:08.32`	`NeoTron`	`this is my favorite => http://www.isbjornguild.se/temp/myui.jpg`
`19:08.33`	`Cyn1`	`and that isn tfully raidbuffed`
`19:08.34`	`Maelos`	`I like the colored bars`
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`19:09.25`	`NeoTron`	`Cyn1: I just use the icons provided by x-perl nowadays`
`19:09.43`	`Aiiane`	`I just use Pitbull's auras setup.`
`19:09.48`	`Julith`	`polarina: well you can be sure that the GUID won't reappear to soon, at least during a fight you can be sure that the GUID is unique at the involved units`
`19:09.49`	`Cyn1`	`i use pitbull`
`19:09.54`	`Cyn1`	`hmm`
`19:10.08`	`Zeksie`	`NeoTron: glad someone found the new bit ;)`
`19:10.53`	`Aiiane`	`also, lol NeoTron :P`
`19:10.55`	`NeoTron`	`Zeksie: err. did I miss something? ;-) I just use the normal buffs that always was there I thought? heh`
`19:11.05`	`Cyn1`	`i am thinking of removing 1 row of buttons`
`19:11.21`	`Julith`	`polarina: Have to admit that I'm guessing here, but thats how it looks like to me by now`
`19:11.37`	`NeoTron`	`http://eongames.com/wow/screens/myui-040608.jpg <-- like tht`
`19:11.45`	`Zeksie`	`sorry. thought you meant hte custom highlights bit. i really should not jump in at end of conversations`
`19:12.17`	`Aiiane`	`lets see... fairly recent "my UI" shot: http://www.ch-wow.com/forums/download/file.php?id=27`
`19:12.58`	`NeoTron`	`Zeksie: if there's a new feature maybe I shall go look again :)`
`19:13.18`	`Psycho`	`Aiiane: "You are not authorized to download this attachement" =P`
`19:13.24`	`Maelos`	`http://www.sacredalliance.net/downloads/maelos_ui-2.0.jpg`
`19:13.35`	`NeoTron`	`only thing I don't like is the duration saying 17m <-- not sure if that is x-perl or omnicc but I prefer a bigger number`
`19:13.40`	`NeoTron`	`I haven't researched the issue`
`19:13.51`	`Aiiane`	`bah Psycho`
`19:14.00`	`Aiiane`	`one sec, uploading somewhere else :P`
`19:14.33`	`Maelos`	`Thats the UI I'm about to release`
`19:15.07`	`Aiiane`	`http://www.aiiane.net/images/ui_apr_08.jpg`
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`19:16.15`	`NeoTron`	`hmm`
`19:16.17`	`Psycho`	`Aiiane: Warlock!`
`19:16.23`	`Psycho`	`Buttons everywhurrrrrr`
`19:16.37`	`NeoTron`	`oh is theer a way to bind soulshatter to, say alt+shift+mousewheel or a button?`
`19:16.44`	`Aiiane`	`heh Psycho`
`19:16.45`	`Aeyan`	`I'm still polishing my 2.4 ui, hehe`
`19:16.46`	`NeoTron`	`I just realized how handy that'd be`
`19:16.56`	`Aiiane`	`NeoTron, I bind it to ~`
`19:16.57`	`Primer`	`neotron: n00b`
`19:17.10`	`NeoTron`	`ebcause I died twice last night due to (omen bugs) and not soul shatterinf ast enough (I redid my UI and I can't find SS fast enough!)`
`19:17.20`	`Primer`	`I have it bound to one of my mx1000's wheel buttons`
`19:17.33`	`Maelos`	`I have 5 rows of buttons and frequently have to adjust`
`19:17.34`	`Aiiane`	`Psycho: sad thing is, for 90% of raid fights I could probably make do with 4-5 buttons/keys`
`19:17.34`	`Psycho`	`I switched to Bongos3 recently and I really enjoy that I can auto-fade bars I don't need to see all the time.`
`19:17.42`	`Primer`	`I have that button configured to do something like ctrl-/`
`19:17.47`	`Psycho`	`Oh, I know, but you need all of them at one point or another.`
`19:17.59`	`NeoTron`	`I need an easy out-of-the-way button I can hit fast`
`19:18.00`	`Maelos`	`realistically I could hide most of them`
`19:18.08`	`Maelos`	`They're all bound to keys`
`19:18.15`	`Psycho`	`I have all of my demons, boss macros, 1-= bindings, etc. auto fade`
`19:18.18`	`Aiiane`	`Also, you like my bar of raidtarget macros :P`
`19:18.26`	`Psycho`	`Infrequently used curses, hellfire, etc. are all on a visible bar.`
`19:18.41`	`NeoTron`	`Aiiane: err. how does that work?`
`19:18.53`	`Ellipsis`	`bars are for noobs who can't remember their keybindings`
`19:19.07`	`Aiiane`	`they're just macros for calling kill targets, NeoTron`
`19:19.07`	`Psycho`	`Aiiane: If you do 100% of the marking for your raids you might look into MagicMarker`
`19:19.16`	`CIA-39`	`03saroz * r68799 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Cache spell name lookups`
`19:19.18`	`NeoTron`	`ah`
`19:19.18`	`Aiiane`	`Psycho: I know about the mod, too lazy :P`
`19:19.24`	`Psycho`	`Roger, that was my problem too.`
`19:19.32`	`Psycho`	`Ellipsis: I guess you don't play a warlock.`
`19:19.38`	`Aiiane`	`plus, the macros aren't for marking`
`19:19.40`	`Aiiane`	`they're for calling`
`19:19.43`	`NeoTron`	`Aiiane: hah. I made MM because I'm lazy and don't want to try to mark stuff manually :P`
`19:19.56`	`Maelos`	`NeoTron: I've been meaning to look at that`
`19:19.59`	`Ellipsis`	`Psycho: actually I do, hence the name`
`19:20.00`	`NeoTron`	`~laziness`
`19:20.01`	`purl`	`LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.`
`19:20.05`	`Odlaw`	`i tried mm, but doesn't do what i needed it to do. stopped using it :(`
`19:20.08`	`NeoTron`	`^ that`
`19:20.08`	`Psycho`	`The most lazy you can get, Neo, is having your tanks do it for you.`
`19:20.16`	`Psycho`	`Which is where I'm at now.`
`19:20.24`	`Aiiane`	`i.e. "/rw {Square} Kill Blue Square {Square}`
`19:20.52`	`NeoTron`	`Odlaw: the odd "kill order" marking system?`
`19:20.54`	`Ellipsis`	`Psycho: http://i31.tinypic.com/2psm5w5.png`
`19:20.58`	`Odlaw`	`aye`
`19:21.05`	`NeoTron`	`I might still try to add that`
`19:21.16`	`NeoTron`	`but been too busy with other stuff to work on MM in the recent period of time`
`19:21.19`	`Psycho`	`Ellipsis: You're a madman.`
`19:21.30`	`Aiiane`	`*madwoman`
`19:21.31`	`Psycho`	`Madwoman`
`19:21.38`	`Odlaw`	`ya, i understand, been busy myself`
`19:21.47`	`Ellipsis`	`Psycho: I'll take that as a compliment`
`19:22.03`	`NeoTron`	`It's more work than I expected to make a DKP tracker to my linking`
`19:22.05`	`NeoTron`	`liking`
`19:22.07`	`Odlaw`	`luckily, i'm a hunter, and just eagle eye in sunwell the next pack before we get to it`
`19:22.10`	`NeoTron`	`I'm close though, real close`
`19:22.11`	`Aiiane`	`Ellipsis: what do you use for curses? or do you have them /all/ keybound?`
`19:22.14`	`Maelos`	`There's no way I could have a UI that simple`
`19:22.19`	`Psycho`	`Seriously.`
`19:22.23`	`Maelos`	`Just doesn't have the data i need`
`19:22.26`	`Psycho`	`UNPOSSIBLE`
`19:22.27`	`Ellipsis`	`Aiiane: I have everything keybound that I might need in combat`
`19:22.31`	`Ellipsis`	`I have curse of weakness keybound`
`19:22.44`	`Aiiane`	`CoT, CoS, CoE, CoD, CoR?`
`19:22.51`	`Ellipsis`	`all of 'em`
`19:22.52`	`Maelos`	`I have everything bound as well (warlock)`
`19:22.56`	`Aiiane`	`to what? sheesh`
`19:22.57`	`Ellipsis`	`though my CoD is a macro`
`19:23.00`	`Ellipsis`	`G15 keys :)`
`19:23.01`	`Maelos`	`I dont see how people play well without it`
`19:23.04`	`NeoTron`	`I think Ellipsis is using a 400 key keyboard`
`19:23.14`	`Ellipsis`	`I'm using an original G15, so pretty much`
`19:23.16`	`Aiiane`	`I've got a G15 too and I'd still run out of keys... combos aren't reliable enough for me`
`19:23.24`	`Psycho`	`Aiiane: alt-shift-ctrl-f5-tilde-escape-numlock is shadow bolt.`
`19:23.24`	`Maelos`	`I'm returning the new G15`
`19:23.28`	`Maelos`	`Keys are too small`
`19:23.33`	`Aiiane`	`actually, i lied... i have a g11, but it's essentially a g15 w/o the lcd`
`19:23.42`	`Ellipsis`	`Psycho: and here I just go with 2 for sbolt... :P`
`19:23.55`	`Aiiane`	`I use Q for shadowbolt. Go figure.`
`19:24.06`	`Ellipsis`	`Q is turn!`
`19:24.07`	`Psycho`	`So while you're getting killed by a rogue you're going QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ`
`19:24.10`	`Aiiane`	`:P`
`19:24.14`	`Aiiane`	`Pfft`
`19:24.17`	`Aiiane`	`mouse is for turning`
`19:24.24`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`19:24.29`	`kergoth`	`anyone here messed with WIM's plugins stuff?`
`19:24.31`	`Aiiane`	`or A/D when not holding mouse`
`19:24.33`	`kergoth`	`sylvaan_work?`
`19:24.47`	`Ellipsis`	`a/d are for strafing`
`19:24.50`	`sylvaan_work`	`kergoth hey`
`19:24.51`	`Ellipsis`	`like a normal game`
`19:24.54`	`Aiiane`	`a/d strafe while mouseturning`
`19:25.00`	`Aiiane`	`and turn while not mouseturning`
`19:25.08`	`sylvaan_work`	`kergoth i lost my nick`
`19:25.24`	`Ellipsis`	`Aiiane: l2rebind`
`19:25.28`	`Aiiane`	`pfft`
`19:25.31`	`sylvaan_work`	`what is the command`
`19:25.31`	`Aiiane`	`that's how i like it`
`19:25.46`	`*** join/#wowace sylvanaar_work (n=sylvanaa@63.237.23.130)`
`19:25.47`	`Aiiane`	`why would i care about a strafe key when not mouselooking`
`19:25.47`	`Ellipsis`	`eww :P`
`19:25.56`	`Ellipsis`	`because you have to strafe to play properly`
`19:26.03`	`Aiiane`	`yes... and I can strafe`
`19:26.09`	`Ellipsis`	`but it takes two hands!`
`19:26.12`	`Aiiane`	`and?`
`19:26.16`	`sylvanaar_work`	`kergoth ah, i havent really messed with wim plugins no`
`19:26.17`	`Zhinjio`	`~seen TOadkiller`
`19:26.19`	`purl`	`toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 124d 17h 4m ago, saying: 'no it needs to swallow a bear which swallowed a man'.`
`19:26.19`	`Aiiane`	`what are you doing with your other hand`
`19:26.23`	`kergoth`	`hrm`
`19:26.25`	`Zhinjio`	`yikes`
`19:26.26`	`shieldb`	`Aiiane: clicking rend, of course!`
`19:26.26`	`Ellipsis`	`and...requiring two hands to do a common action is silly`
`19:26.27`	`shieldb`	`wait`
`19:26.31`	`Ellipsis`	`l2UI design :P`
`19:26.36`	`Aiiane`	`except that it's 2 actions`
`19:26.39`	`Aiiane`	`turning and strafing`
`19:26.54`	`Aiiane`	`I'm pretty much never doing the latter when not doing the former`
`19:26.59`	`Ellipsis`	`um, no`
`19:27.07`	`Ellipsis`	`it's one action...strafing`
`19:27.07`	`Ellipsis`	`:P`
`19:27.13`	`Aiiane`	`04[12:23] Aiiane: 01I'm pretty much never doing the latter when not doing the former`
`19:27.15`	`Aiiane`	`^`
`19:27.18`	`Psycho`	`I think you get a little more control out of using the mouse and A/D`
`19:27.19`	`Zhinjio`	`hey Ellipsis`
`19:27.28`	`Ellipsis`	`anyway, my mouse is for clicking targets :P`
`19:27.30`	`Psycho`	`But that's just me. Feels more fluid.`
`19:27.40`	`Ellipsis`	`Aiiane: I can't read what you just quoted because I use a black background :P`
`19:27.52`	`sylvanaar_work`	`kergoth what is it that you want to do`
`19:27.52`	`Aiiane`	`I mouse fast enough that I can click targets and use it for mouselook both at the same time`
`19:28.09`	`Aiiane`	`Ellipsis: meh, blame irc clients that copy their own formatting`
`19:28.22`	`Ellipsis`	`I blame users that don't know how to strip colors when copying`
`19:28.22`	`Ellipsis`	`:P`
`19:28.27`	`Aiiane`	`(I have my client set to force its own formatting on everything)`
`19:28.30`	`Aiiane`	`(So I could care less)`
`19:29.21`	`Aiiane`	`but the quote was of my line about never doing the latter when not also doing the former`
`19:29.21`	`Maelos`	`Keyboard turning = fail`
`19:29.27`	`Aiiane`	`and yes`
`19:29.31`	`Aiiane`	`keyboard turning is fail`
`19:29.39`	`Ellipsis`	`Aiiane: fine, then use a/d for strafe and shift+a/d for turn`
`19:29.42`	`Ellipsis`	`or something along those lines`
`19:29.46`	`Aiiane`	`why?`
`19:29.50`	`Aiiane`	`again, keyboard turning is fail`
`19:29.51`	`kergoth`	`sylvanaar_work: nevermind, got it. the intercept functions in the plugin api needed to return true otherwise it passed it along itself`
`19:29.53`	`Ellipsis`	`so you don't need your mouse hand?`
`19:29.57`	`Ellipsis`	`I agree`
`19:30.02`	`Aiiane`	`why? I'm using my mouse hand anyways`
`19:30.03`	`Maelos`	`The problem with keyboard turning, especially as a caster, is they you're going to get a ton of interrupts`
`19:30.05`	`Ellipsis`	`but it's necessary if you're trying to turn while targeting a mob`
`19:30.08`	`kergoth`	`sylvanaar_work: just wrote a little plugin to make WIM use the CHAT_MSG_WHISPER chat message event filters :P`
`19:30.13`	`kergoth`	`at least until he adds it upstream`
`19:30.17`	`Aiiane`	`and if I /only/ use it for clicking targets it's wasting a ton of potential input`
`19:30.23`	`Ellipsis`	`Maelos: lolwut? only if you suck at hitting the right keys...`
`19:30.29`	`Maelos`	`No`
`19:30.31`	`Aiiane`	`no`
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`19:30.35`	`Aiiane`	`from people running through you`
`19:30.38`	`Aiiane`	`in pvp`
`19:30.42`	`Maelos`	`What if the mob charges and is no longer in front of you`
`19:30.46`	`Maelos`	`or people are a better example`
`19:30.55`	`Ellipsis`	`1. I don't pvp 2. I don't intend to say you should ALWAYS keyboard turn, that's just dumb`
`19:30.56`	`Aiiane`	`you'll get "target must be in front of you" plenty`
`19:30.56`	`Maelos`	`theres no way you'll keyboard turn 180 degrees in time`
`19:31.12`	`Ellipsis`	`I'm saying you should be able to keyboard turn when your mouse hand is busy`
`19:31.17`	`Maelos`	`I'm a dps junkie so I don't ever want a single gcd waste`
`19:31.19`	`Maelos`	`wasted*`
`19:31.20`	`Ellipsis`	`and, as my original point was, strafe`
`19:31.32`	`Aiiane`	`if i really, really, really need to keyboard turn while using my mouse for something else`
`19:31.36`	`Aiiane`	`i can reach over to the arrow keys`
`19:31.43`	`Aiiane`	`but I pretty much never need to do that`
`19:31.44`	`Maelos`	`I use both the keyboard and mouse for movement and positioning`
`19:31.44`	`Aiiane`	`so`
`19:31.55`	`Ellipsis`	`as do I`
`19:32.03`	`Ellipsis`	`I actually have every movement function bound to a mouse button`
`19:32.12`	`Ellipsis`	`so I can navigate one-handed`
`19:32.42`	`kenlyric`	`what do you need besides autorun and the normal mouse buttons?`
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`19:32.55`	`Ellipsis`	`autorun, jump, descend, move backwards, turn left/right`
`19:33.00`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Who posts as Psychonaut/Deathwing here? I know that someone does ;D`
`19:33.08`	`Aiiane`	`turn left/right = hold right click and move mouse`
`19:33.21`	`Ellipsis`	`that doesn't work if you're trying to click target at the same time, as I said before`
`19:33.33`	`kenlyric`	`binding jump is interesting`
`19:33.44`	`kenlyric`	`i've never bound descend, even though I complained about it endlessly`
`19:33.47`	`Aiiane`	`so put on autorun, target the mob, and go back to navigating`
`19:33.51`	`kenlyric`	`by the time they put it in the game, I had adapted`
`19:33.54`	`Ellipsis`	`example: I am holding left mouse to keep my camera on something; I want my character to turn. I don't have to mess with my camera angle, I just hit my tilt wheel to the left/right.`
`19:33.56`	`Aiiane`	`at least for me, that takes about 1/4 of a second or less`
`19:34.13`	`Psycho`	`ScytheBlade1: Hi =P`
`19:34.21`	`kenlyric`	`oh gods, this is a different channel`
`19:34.25`	`sylvanaar_work`	`kergoth yeah, those new filters are great, its amazing how the simplest things have the greatest impact`
`19:34.39`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`19:34.40`	`kenlyric`	`and we're talking about keyboard/mouse usage here too`
`19:35.15`	`Ellipsis`	`I'm talking about having one hand free to eat or chat or whatever I want while being able to navigate and control my camera independently`
`19:35.17`	`Ellipsis`	`:P`
`19:35.25`	`Ellipsis`	`that's just win, for me`
`19:35.37`	`*** join/#wowace Nocts (n=Nocts@wsip-70-182-87-69.ok.ok.cox.net)`
`19:35.42`	`Aiiane`	`and I'm talking about more optimal play for when I actually care about efficiency, and passing capability for when I don't ;)`
`19:35.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Psycho: haha. I did /whois Psychonaut, got nothing. Anywho, thanks for adding that bit in the 'lawl omen' thread in R7D - every bit helps`
`19:35.53`	`ScytheBlade1`	`*R&D`
`19:36.27`	`Aiiane`	`and being able to have shadowbolt and fear (Q and E) right next to movement keys is a lot more useful to me`
`19:36.39`	`Psycho`	`People are just being silly. I can't imagine that KLHTM worked as well as they're saying it did immediately after 2.4, and the general WoW populace is excessively whiny about mods that aren't instantly perfect.`
`19:36.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yup.`
`19:36.56`	`Ellipsis`	`Aiiane: yeah, but I can bind every key on my keyboard to spells`
`19:37.01`	`Psycho`	`We did BT fine the first week without Omen working well at all.`
`19:37.04`	`Psycho`	`They can deal too =P`
`19:37.14`	`Psycho`	`But it IS working plenty well now, so I don't see what the problem is.`
`19:37.18`	`Aiiane`	`Ellipsis: sure, but that doesn't make it easy for your fingers to reach them`
`19:37.25`	`Nocts`	`That's personal opinion.`
`19:37.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yeah, the people who cry when they don't have a threat meter are fun to laugh at ;D`
`19:37.48`	`Ellipsis`	`Aiiane:...Q and E are plenty easy to reach for me`
`19:37.49`	`Nocts`	`Keyboard layouts and finger movement are dependant on many factors for ease of use.`
`19:37.53`	`Ellipsis`	`dunno how your hands could be any smaller than mine`
`19:37.57`	`Aiiane`	`misread your statement`
`19:37.59`	`Ellipsis`	`W, A, S, D are also handy`
`19:38.14`	`Ellipsis`	`heck, I could bind space to iHoT if I wanted`
`19:38.15`	`Ellipsis`	`that'd be fun`
`19:38.19`	`Zhinjio`	`Nostromo Speedpad ftw.`
`19:38.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`heh`
`19:38.28`	`Zhinjio`	`I never touch my keyboard.`
`19:38.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`I got one, but it's been sitting in it's retail packaging for 1.5 years now`
`19:38.43`	`Ellipsis`	`Zhinjio: I do, while you're asleep`
`19:38.47`	`Zhinjio`	`and I never move a finger more than about... 1 inch.`
`19:38.52`	`Ellipsis`	`^`
`19:38.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`never even unpacked it :\`
`19:38.54`	`Zhinjio`	`Ellipsis: hawt.`
`19:39.00`	`Zhinjio`	`dude. you're missing out.`
`19:39.05`	`Aiiane`	`too used to WASD to do basic movement with anything else`
`19:39.09`	`Aiiane`	`and it works fine for me`
`19:39.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`I'm a keyboard typing speed genius :\`
`19:39.13`	`Zhinjio`	`it completely changes the way you play games.`
`19:39.15`	`Ellipsis`	`that's the problem I'm running into, too`
`19:39.24`	`Ellipsis`	`I still have a tendency to use W a lot`
`19:39.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`nostromo is too damn small to use for anything but FPSs`
`19:39.37`	`Ellipsis`	`and I'm afraid to unbind it :<`
`19:39.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive been using an ideazon fang for all games but FPSs and my n52 for FPSs`
`19:40.00`	`Zhinjio`	`Arrowmaster: just in how many keys you get, you mean?`
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`19:40.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`wasd + modifier keys take up a good half the n52`
`19:41.06`	`Zhinjio`	`I don't know. ( 14 keys + 4 hat buttons + 1 red button ) * 4 positions... thats a boatload.`
`19:41.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`red button unusable`
`19:41.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`take too much force`
`19:41.21`	`Zhinjio`	`I use it for jump.`
`19:41.26`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68800 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua:`
`19:41.26`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`19:41.26`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix.`
`19:41.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`and the space is unusable because the designer is a retard`
`19:41.38`	`Zhinjio`	`since I don't relaly do much jumping around.`
`19:41.39`	`Ellipsis`	`did Arrowmaster just start using caveman grammar?`
`19:41.39`	`Aiiane`	`Nice update description Elsia :P`
`19:41.40`	`kergoth`	`i'm using a wolfking warrior atm, but thinking maybe picking up that new n52 dealy`
`19:41.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ellipsis: i may have, i just woke up`
`19:42.05`	`Zhinjio`	`anyway... didn't mean to start an argumnet about it. I love it.`
`19:42.05`	`Psycho`	`Elsia must've read my guide on commit messages.`
`19:42.09`	`Ellipsis`	`red button take too much force!`
`19:42.10`	`Elsia`	`;)`
`19:42.16`	`Psycho`	`"Changed some crap so that the crap wouldn't be crappy"`
`19:42.22`	`Elsia`	`trust me, that description is as accurate as makes sense`
`19:42.23`	`Psycho`	`I believe is an exact quote from work's SVN`
`19:42.25`	`Ellipsis`	`"fixed brokenness"`
`19:42.28`	`Elsia`	`basically I added if data then`
`19:42.29`	`Aiiane`	`lol psycho`
`19:42.57`	`kergoth`	`kicks Elsia`
`19:42.59`	`Elsia`	`hehe`
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`19:43.35`	`Zhinjio`	`I saw one a few weeks back "remove old busted. added new hotness"`
`19:44.08`	`Aiiane`	`and generally Ellipsis, if I need to target a mob while turning, I just tab-target it`
`19:44.24`	`Aiiane`	`sure, that won't do /everything/ you could do with clicktargetting, but it's plenty for my needs.`
`19:44.31`	`Nocts`	`Tab targeting fails, though.`
`19:44.42`	`Aiiane`	`*tab targetting on its own`
`19:45.01`	`Aiiane`	`there are some things that tab targetting is better than anything else for`
`19:45.01`	`Nocts`	`You have to hand-hack the range distance to get further yard discovery and it isn't anything but a cycle-based descision system.`
`19:45.09`	`Nocts`	`I prefer using T`
`19:45.14`	`Aiiane`	`such as selecting newly spawned mobs`
`19:45.15`	`Nocts`	`Target closest.`
`19:45.31`	`Ellipsis`	`tab targeting sucks for tagging mobs on spawn`
`19:45.35`	`Ellipsis`	`aggressive pets do way better`
`19:45.35`	`Aiiane`	`don't always want the closest target`
`19:45.38`	`Ellipsis`	`since they're server-side`
`19:45.41`	`Aiiane`	`i didn't say tagging`
`19:45.43`	`Aiiane`	`i said targetting`
`19:45.55`	`Ellipsis`	`why do you need to target them quickly if not to tag?`
`19:46.00`	`Aiiane`	`bossfights?`
`19:46.14`	`Aiiane`	`for instance, vexallus`
`19:46.46`	`Ellipsis`	`don't know that one (I don't raid anymore)`
`19:47.01`	`Aiiane`	`http://wowhead.com/?npc=24744`
`19:47.14`	`Aiiane`	`and/or Curator`
`19:47.30`	`Aiiane`	`also, Nocts, T is my wand button :P`
`19:48.05`	`Ellipsis`	`...your what?`
`19:48.08`	`Ellipsis`	`I thought you played a warlock`
`19:48.12`	`Nocts`	`lol`
`19:48.23`	`Nocts`	`I'd so make a less commonly used action shift+t`
`19:48.35`	`Ellipsis`	`I don't have a freaking wand button`
`19:48.40`	`Ellipsis`	`and I have everything keybound`
`19:49.03`	`Nocts`	`This makes it easier for her to face mash the keyboard and win the fight`
`19:49.17`	`Ellipsis`	`yeah, if I accidentally hit wand it totally screws me up`
`19:49.33`	`Nocts`	`Throws everything off with that damn GCD use.`
`19:50.03`	`Aiiane`	`Ellipsis: I play more than one character`
`19:50.14`	`Ellipsis`	`so what's T on your non-wand classes?`
`19:50.32`	`Nocts`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:50.36`	`Ellipsis`	`lulz`
`19:50.41`	`Aiiane`	`well, on the melee ones it's autoattack :P`
`19:50.45`	`Ellipsis`	`...`
`19:50.52`	`Ellipsis`	`do you use a mac?`
`19:51.05`	`Nocts`	`Why do people have autoattack as a keybutton?`
`19:51.28`	`Aiiane`	`because we prefer not to use rightclick for it?`
`19:51.34`	`Nocts`	`Press escape=stop attacking`
`19:51.35`	`Ellipsis`	`why?`
`19:51.35`	`Azurewrath`	`Kalecgos down, yay :)`
`19:51.44`	`Psycho`	`Congratulations.`
`19:51.45`	`kergoth`	`seems pretty silly to me, just macro your main attack with a /startattack in case you're low on mana/energy/rage for it`
`19:51.55`	`Maelos`	`Are there any mods which revamp the look of the over-the-mob healthbars?`
`19:52.01`	`Nocts`	`And ANY melee move preformed on your target initiates the autoattack already.`
`19:52.02`	`Antiarc`	`Aloft`
`19:52.03`	`Maelos`	`The default ones look like crap.`
`19:52.11`	`Aiiane`	`kergoth, perhaps you want to /just/ autoattack?`
`19:52.13`	`Nocts`	`Stormstrike activates autoattack, etc.`
`19:52.22`	`kergoth`	`if i ever want to just autoattack, i rightclick on the mob, personally`
`19:52.24`	`kergoth`	`shrugs`
`19:52.25`	`Nocts`	`If you -just- want to autoattack, then do an assist.`
`19:52.36`	`Aiiane`	`Nocts, hell no`
`19:52.38`	`kergoth`	`i dont like attack on assist personally, too little control`
`19:52.40`	`Nocts`	`Or sheesh, if you're just white damaging for no reason right click isn't difficult.`
`19:52.43`	`Aiiane`	`autoattack on assist is a crappy thing to have on`
`19:52.44`	`kergoth`	`Antiarc: aloft still works?`
`19:53.00`	`Nocts`	`I still can't see it being worth an entire key just for the times you want to white damage only.`
`19:53.08`	`Julith`	`antiarc: I wonder how much information of a spell could depend on the mob who casts it (if we asume that two different mob types can cast a the same spell)`
`19:53.10`	`Aiiane`	`it's not, it's worth a key for control`
`19:53.18`	`Nocts`	`Everything else activates (except range spells) the attack already.`
`19:53.20`	`NeoTron`	`Azurewrath: grats`
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`19:53.45`	`Aiiane`	`grr, damn cat`
`19:53.47`	`Aiiane`	`lol`
`19:54.01`	`Nocts`	`Nocts: I still can't see it being worth an entire key just for the times you want to white damage only.`
`19:54.01`	`Nocts`	`Julith: antiarc: I wonder how much information of a spell could depend on the mob who casts it (if we asume that two different mob types can cast a the same spell)`
`19:54.01`	`Nocts`	`Aiiane: it's not, it's worth a key for control`
`19:54.01`	`Nocts`	`Nocts: Everything else activates (except range spells) the attack already.`
`19:54.02`	`Nocts`	`wb`
`19:54.48`	`Aiiane`	`I had that in the log Nocts, don't worry`
`19:54.50`	`Maelos`	`Aloft looks like an option. Are there any others I should look at?`
`19:55.41`	`Aiiane`	`dislike using escape to stop casting/attacking, since an accidental second hit detargets`
`19:56.01`	`Julith`	`for example two different players (with different spell-damage for example) can cast a frostbolt (same spellID) but the damage whould differ. i wonder if something like this could happen with mobspells too`
`19:56.12`	`Aiiane`	`anywho`
`19:56.15`	`Aiiane`	`need to grab lunch, bbl`
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`20:02.36`	`vithos`	`is there a reason WAU still says TOC: 20300 in the statusbar?`
`20:03.08`	`kalahassi`	`the site WAU relies on changed its layout, wasnt that the reason?`
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`20:03.40`	`Apoco`	`inc spam`
`20:03.45`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68801 10RBM/ (19 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`20:03.45`	`CIA-39`	`RBM:`
`20:03.45`	`CIA-39`	`- Removed: DrumWatch, added new module to download`
`20:03.45`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Boss Death Detection (tested)`
`20:03.45`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Localization Messages.`
`20:03.46`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Announcing while skulls are turned on.`
`20:03.48`	`CIA-39`	`- Change: DistanceFrameAPI-Create nolonger requires a name and distance. It can be called without both or just distance.`
`20:04.05`	`haste`	`bans Apoco.`
`20:04.07`	`vithos`	`WAU and files.wowace.com is controlled by the same people`
`20:04.15`	`kenlyric`	`no`
`20:04.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`wtf is rbm now`
`20:04.22`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68802 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (Bloodboil.lua Naj'entus.lua RBM_BlackTemple.toc): (log message trimmed)`
`20:04.22`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_BlackTemple:`
`20:04.22`	`CIA-39`	`- Change: Reduced Range Frame from 15 to 10 Yards for Najentus and Illidan`
`20:04.22`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Mother Shahraz Attraction Clearing`
`20:04.24`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Bloodboil Mod (hopefully it takes this time)`
`20:04.26`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Souls Death Detection`
`20:04.27`	`kenlyric`	`wau isn't controlled by anyone :)`
`20:04.28`	`CIA-39`	`- Add: Akama start time for Illidan`
`20:04.33`	`vithos`	`well.. that's true.`
`20:04.37`	`kenlyric`	`it's no longer developed`
`20:04.39`	`kenlyric`	`flee for the hills`
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`20:05.05`	`vithos`	`i should probably just try out all those command line updaters`
`20:05.09`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68803 10RBM_Config/ (Config.lua Locales/enUS.lua RBM_Config.toc):`
`20:05.09`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_Config:`
`20:05.09`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Localization Spam`
`20:05.30`	`Gnarfoz`	`Apoco: do tell`
`20:05.30`	`vithos`	`is there one that remembers whether addons were installed automatically or manually, to automatically remove dependencies that aren't needed anymore?`
`20:05.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`JWU tries to detect dependencies and cleans up`
`20:06.05`	`vithos`	`Apoco: exciting project you've got going there`
`20:06.08`	`Dashkal`	`given that (eventually) the svn will be redesigned dramatically, will WAU be allowed to die or is someone going to try to resurrect it?`
`20:06.40`	`vithos`	`Gnarfoz: thanks, i'll try that`
`20:06.54`	`kenlyric`	`Dashkal: I'm sure someone will try`
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`20:07.08`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68804 10RBM_Hyjal/ (Anetheron.lua Archimonde.lua RBM_Hyjal.toc):`
`20:07.08`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_Hyjal:`
`20:07.08`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Localization Typo's`
`20:07.13`	`Dashkal`	`I've heard too many things about WAU... is it open or closed source? who controls that source?`
`20:07.13`	`Zicon`	`jwu?`
`20:07.23`	`vithos`	`~jwu`
`20:07.23`	`purl`	`JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917`
`20:07.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`closed source`
`20:07.26`	`kenlyric`	`it's a secret to everybody`
`20:07.28`	`kergoth`	`i have to say RBM's scope (bossmods, cooldown timers, debuff/buff timers..) is a bit larger than i'd normally like, but i just disable the boss stuff and use it for cooldowns & debuffs/buffs currently`
`20:07.30`	`Zicon`	`has not heard of jwu before.`
`20:07.40`	`Dashkal`	`heh, if nobody's working on it and its closed, it's dead already`
`20:07.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`sylvanaar last did, probably, but check #wau`
`20:07.46`	`keiss`	`hmm the illidan trinket doesnt generate SPELL_ENERGIZE ... /slap blizz`
`20:07.56`	`CIA-39`	`tourguide: 03Tekkub 07testgithub * r78a19d5 10/: Wheeeeee!`
`20:08.05`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68805 10RBM_Sunwell/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`20:08.05`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_Sunwell:`
`20:08.05`	`CIA-39`	`- General: Code Cleanup (will be going through all current boss mods and doing the same when I get the chance)`
`20:08.05`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Felmyst Starting Automatically`
`20:08.05`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Kalecgos Death Detection`
`20:08.06`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Brutallus Stupidity Check`
`20:08.10`	`CIA-39`	`- New: Team Iconing for Kalecgos (requires Team's to be turned on).`
`20:08.25`	`Apoco`	`kergoth: that is the beauty of RBM, you don't have to use it for boss mods what so ever`
`20:08.33`	`Apoco`	`its just a nice bonus if you want too`
`20:08.35`	`kergoth`	`nods`
`20:08.44`	`Maelos`	`No one seems to be maintaining Furious*`
`20:08.45`	`kergoth`	`i love the flexibility, all the options for what bars go where`
`20:08.46`	`Dashkal`	`JWU: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917.0`
`20:08.49`	`kergoth`	`filtering, movement on time, etc`
`20:08.53`	`Maelos`	`Which makes me sad. I really like FuriousTask.`
`20:09.00`	`kergoth`	`now to figure out what i actually -want- it doing`
`20:09.01`	`CIA-39`	`tourguide: 03Tekkub 07testgithub * r68a7004 10/: Testing amended commit`
`20:09.28`	`Pkekyo\|`	`~time`
`20:09.29`	`purl`	`You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2008.04.09 20:09:29 GMT)`
`20:09.42`	`Maelos`	`Are there any other mods which manage generic raid assignments?`
`20:09.48`	`Dashkal`	`jwu has some quirks that annoy (dialogs that ignore the X button), but it does do its job.`
`20:10.23`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68806 10RBM_ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Halazzi.lua RBM_ZulAman.toc):`
`20:10.23`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_ZulAman:`
`20:10.23`	`CIA-39`	`- Change: Range from 15 yards to 10 for Eagle Boss`
`20:10.23`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix: Halazzi Frenzy Stuffs`
`20:10.24`	`Apoco`	`thats one of my problems kergoth`
`20:10.34`	`Apoco`	`I have gone through like 10 different "setups" since I took over development`
`20:11.01`	`Apoco`	`there are soo many different ways to alter the bars and stuff its a bit overwhelming at first`
`20:11.07`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`20:11.10`	`Apoco`	`its like the original flexbar for statusbars`
`20:11.19`	`Apoco`	`at first its like "omgwtf can I do?"`
`20:11.24`	`Apoco`	`then after awhile its amazing`
`20:11.39`	`Dashkal`	`oh fond memories of flexbar1...`
`20:11.44`	`NivFreak`	`RBM?`
`20:11.51`	`Dashkal`	`group button=1-12 anchor=1`
`20:12.06`	`kergoth`	`i think i'm gonna try to arrange just two groups, "stuff I need to see in front of me" and "stuff i need to check only occasionally".. which are basically 'short bars' and 'long bars', except for some filtering on short for stuff i dont need to see there, and there are af ew things i'd like to see all the time in the short group, not just when they're short on time`
`20:12.11`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68807 10RBM_DrumWatch/ (. Core.lua RBM_DrumWatch.toc):`
`20:12.11`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_DrumWatch:`
`20:12.11`	`CIA-39`	`- Initial Commit. Rwar!`
`20:12.20`	`kergoth`	`like freezing trap stuff, and my stings`
`20:12.23`	`NivFreak`	`~rbm`
`20:12.38`	`Apoco`	`Right now I have 4 frames, Cooldowns Long/Short, and Bars Long/Short`
`20:12.44`	`Apoco`	`Boss stuff is sent to bars, everything else Cooldowns`
`20:12.52`	`NivFreak`	`new boss mod?`
`20:13.00`	`Apoco`	`NivFreak: Much Much More`
`20:13.10`	`NivFreak`	`do I dare ask?>`
`20:13.15`	`Apoco`	`It's hard to explain`
`20:13.21`	`NivFreak`	`that seems bad`
`20:13.22`	`NivFreak`	`:)`
`20:13.25`	`Apoco`	`Yes, it can be a boss mod`
`20:13.30`	`Apoco`	`but it ISN'T a boss mod`
`20:13.38`	`NivFreak`	`so what is it`
`20:13.48`	`Apoco`	`its the base API for bar manipulation`
`20:13.53`	`Apoco`	`to shorten it up`
`20:13.56`	`NivFreak`	`let's start with RBM`
`20:14.00`	`NivFreak`	`what's it stand for? :)`
`20:14.02`	`Apoco`	`RBM is the spiritual succesor to BarAnnounce. The majority of the code has been rewritten or refactored. RBM is roughly half the size of BA3, with twice the features.`
`20:14.06`	`Apoco`	`I honestly, have no clue`
`20:14.12`	`Apoco`	`I would say, Risen Boss Mods`
`20:14.19`	`Apoco`	`but the original developer said it didn't mean that`
`20:14.31`	`Apoco`	`(He was in Risen)`
`20:14.39`	`Zhinjio`	`let me know when its fully risne.`
`20:14.40`	`NivFreak`	`so, where would this be useful to me`
`20:14.41`	`Zhinjio`	`er, risne.`
`20:14.45`	`Zhinjio`	`wow. RISEN.`
`20:15.06`	`Apoco`	`NivFreak: Try it out, and judge it yourself.`
`20:15.20`	`Apoco`	`some people may feel its a bit too much, but others (like myself) love the customability of it`
`20:15.29`	`kergoth`	`NivFreak: it has buff/debuff timers like classtimer/etc, and cooldown timers lke hourglass, and drum stuff, and boss mod timers.. lots of flexibility for what bars go where, and notifications on things running out, and stuff.. but you can disable everything you dont want`
`20:15.41`	`NivFreak`	`ah, ok`
`20:15.41`	`kalahassi`	`risen was the guild with ashbringer, werent they?`
`20:15.42`	`Apoco`	`^ what he said`
`20:15.49`	`Apoco`	`kalahassi: Yes`
`20:15.53`	`NivFreak`	`and it's ace?`
`20:16.00`	`kergoth`	`i like it a lot myself`
`20:16.01`	`Psycho`	`Sounds awesome to me. I may play around with it later this week in Kara or something so I don't spend all of our Council attempts tonight futzing with it.`
`20:16.15`	`Apoco`	`Psycho: No kara mods :(`
`20:16.16`	`NivFreak`	`I use a number of mods to fill all of those roles`
`20:16.30`	`Psycho`	`Then ZA =P`
`20:16.39`	`Apoco`	`NivFreak: Right now, with everything enabled, its using ~500kb of memory`
`20:17.07`	`Apoco`	`thats all 4 boss mods, (several actively running), cooldown/buff monitor, drum watch, badge watch, etc`
`20:17.11`	`kergoth`	`Apoco: you should make a couple vids and put them up somewhere, showing some of what it can do`
`20:17.24`	`NivFreak`	`well, to be honest I'm not likely to replace bigwigs with anything`
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`20:17.31`	`Apoco`	`I have one that I made before I took over development of it`
`20:17.32`	`NivFreak`	`but I'll certainly take a look at the rest :)`
`20:17.38`	`durcyn`	`competition breeds innovation`
`20:17.43`	`Dashkal`	`Apoco: Forgive my ignorance is this is impossible. Does it (or is it planned to) have the ability to integrate with other boss mods. Ex: Channel BigWigs events into its framework so everything looks nice and uniform?`
`20:17.46`	`Maelos`	`I was looking at RBM but was having the same problem figuring out what it does :)`
`20:17.47`	`durcyn`	give Funkeh` a run for his money =P
`20:17.56`	`kergoth`	`Dashkal: dont think so, but thatd be pretty sweer`
`20:17.56`	`kergoth`	`t`
`20:18.02`	`NeoTron`	`So i havent' code reviewed the entire thing but... what I saw in the kalecgos addon it had quite a bid of bad programming practices`
`20:18.06`	`NivFreak`	`I went from DBM to bigwigs, so it has happened in the past`
`20:18.10`	`kergoth`	`make a bigwigs bars plugin that uses RBM's timer apis`
`20:18.10`	`Apoco`	`Dashkal: There is a pre-defined theme for Bigwigs looking`
`20:18.12`	`NivFreak`	`but not until bigwigs was very complete ;)`
`20:18.13`	`kergoth`	`thatd be cool`
`20:18.14`	Funkeh`	`durcyn, lol don't start me on rbm`
`20:18.37`	`Apoco`	`but yes, I plan to allow it to accept info from BigWigs/DBM`
`20:18.44`	`Maelos`	`So FuriousTask? Anyone know what's going on with it?`
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`20:18.49`	`Apoco`	`and no, I didn't take development of it to compete with BigWigs or DBM`
`20:19.01`	`Dashkal`	`Apoco: Not quite what I'm trying to ask. I'm wondering if the backend of bigwigs can be funneled through RBM so I get the work that went into making BigWigs accurate in a uniform user interface (make RBM render everything)`
`20:19.14`	`Apoco`	`I took over development of it because I liked it and Risen wow-quit.`
`20:19.14`	`Dashkal`	`oops, you answered before I typed the wall of text :p`
`20:19.14`	`Maelos`	`I'd be happy to look at other maintained options. I'm surprised more people don't have this problem.`
`20:19.23`	`NeoTron`	Funkeh`: so my addon is nearing some state of potentially being useful outside my guild
`20:19.33`	`NeoTron`	`the kalecgos marker one`
`20:19.38`	Funkeh`	`woo ;p`
`20:19.45`	`Apoco`	`Kalecgos Marker?`
`20:19.46`	`NeoTron`	`it doesn't use hard coded names anymore`
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`20:19.52`	`Dashkal`	`Hot. Uniformity is such a wonderful thing in a UI. I have more mods than I can count. Makes life easier when they at least try to look similar so I don't get overloaded.`
`20:19.55`	`NeoTron`	`Apoco: what you had in RBM except working.. or so`
`20:19.56`	Funkeh`	`sweet`
`20:20.00`	`Daagaak`	`hey, i've been trying to work out the best way of calling stuff in my addon from an actionbar button. been trying to avoid using a macro that does a /script and wondered what the best way was (if there even is another way)`
`20:20.00`	`kergoth`	`Dashkal: agreed`
`20:20.06`	`Apoco`	`NeoTron: its now working with ingame gui :p`
`20:20.08`	`kergoth`	`thats why i used DoTimer for so long`
`20:20.16`	`kergoth`	`it had modules for cooldowns, buffs/debuffs, and player auras`
`20:20.25`	`Odlaw`	`what does kalecgos marker do`
`20:20.25`	`NeoTron`	`right now though it's hard coded so group 5 has tanks + 2 extras and the 2 extras go in portal1 and 3 :P`
`20:20.36`	`Apoco`	`I just have it setup to ignore tanks`
`20:20.36`	`NeoTron`	`Odlaw: what it sounds like.`
`20:20.42`	`Apoco`	`because in my guild atleast, they do wtf they want`
`20:20.46`	`Apoco`	`regardless of an order`
`20:20.50`	`NeoTron`	`ah but if a tank is ported, it needs to mark a different group to go in`
`20:21.14`	`Apoco`	`eh, kinda`
`20:21.36`	`Apoco`	`You can add tanks too it, but I removed the "playerA, playerC screwd up and didnt click teh portal" msg`
`20:21.41`	`Apoco`	`because it got all goofy and shit with tanks`
`20:21.49`	`Apoco`	`being ported in the first 4 portals`
`20:21.59`	`NeoTron`	`let's just say this`
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`20:22.26`	`NeoTron`	`I use G1-4 as normal port groups (in whatever order they are pulled in). If someone frmo G5 is ported, I throw in one of g1-4 if available`
`20:22.34`	`CIA-39`	`03Tristan * r68808 10EquivalencePoints/ (7 files in 3 dirs):`
`20:22.34`	`CIA-39`	`EquivalencePoints:`
`20:22.34`	`CIA-39`	`- Added some fonts for the news window`
`20:22.34`	`CIA-39`	`03starinnia * r68809 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-enUS.lua SMD_Defaults.lua SMD_Menu.lua SimpleMD.lua):`
`20:22.34`	`CIA-39`	`SimpleMD:`
`20:22.35`	`CIA-39`	`-Fix static bars not clearing after leaving a raid`
`20:22.37`	`CIA-39`	`-Split showGroup into showParty and showRaid`
`20:22.41`	`CIA-39`	`-showParty will not broadcast if you are in a raid (if both are checked, you would only broadcast to raid chat)`
`20:22.41`	`Apoco`	`ah`
`20:22.45`	`Zhinjio`	`hmm... do I care to see pet buffs or not.`
`20:22.46`	`CIA-39`	`03apoco * r68810 10RBM_BadgeWatch/ (. Core.lua RBM_BadgeWatch.toc):`
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`20:22.48`	`CIA-39`	`RBM_BadgeWatch:`
`20:22.50`	`CIA-39`	`- Initial Commit`
`20:22.50`	`Zhinjio`	`I think probably not`
`20:22.56`	`Apoco`	`I wanted to add that, but needed to commit it`
`20:22.56`	`NeoTron`	`you don't configure anytghing except putting tanks + 2 extras in G5`
`20:23.01`	`Apoco`	`people were starting to yell at me`
`20:23.11`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`20:23.21`	`Apoco`	`Are you assuming port groups are in the same physical raid group?`
`20:23.22`	`CIA-39`	`03Tristan * r68811 10Enhancer/ (9 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:23.22`	`CIA-39`	`Enhancer:`
`20:23.22`	`CIA-39`	`- Mostly settings that where added but it was such quick fixes and I had a spare hour`
`20:23.25`	`NeoTron`	`yes`
`20:23.31`	`NeoTron`	`well`
`20:23.38`	`NeoTron`	`the ORDER is not fixed`
`20:23.38`	`Apoco`	`See, RBM did that from the start (what Kamerial wrote)`
`20:23.43`	`NeoTron`	`but I always go group by group`
`20:23.46`	`Apoco`	`yeah`
`20:24.01`	`Apoco`	`the problem I have with that, is atleast in my guild, we don't sort groups that way`
`20:24.04`	`Apoco`	`we have "teams"`
`20:24.11`	`Apoco`	`with people in misc groups`
`20:24.24`	`NeoTron`	`problem with having "teams" is that it diminishes the return on Circle of Healing while on the inside`
`20:24.31`	`Apoco`	`you could be in group 5 but be in team1`
`20:24.35`	`Apoco`	`true`
`20:24.36`	`NeoTron`	`it's not a dps fight so healing synergy > dps synergy`
`20:24.43`	`Apoco`	`we go reallly heavy on shamans though`
`20:24.46`	`Apoco`	`only bring 1 coh priest`
`20:24.48`	`NeoTron`	`I used a smart method that did abotu that`
`20:24.50`	`NeoTron`	`it worked great`
`20:25.01`	`Odlaw`	`cuz i made a quick mod to mark people who's debuff is about to fade (they are able to be ported again).. this makes it easy for people to clump up if they got the portal debuff, and not have to worry about getting owned by a portal in their face`
`20:25.03`	`Apoco`	`we chain heal everything to death`
`20:25.06`	`NeoTron`	`except it split the groups up and it was in the end causing healing problems on a spectacular scale`
`20:25.16`	`Odlaw`	`wondering if yours did the same or what`
`20:25.26`	`Apoco`	`Mine will basically do the same thing yours is doing but you have to say who is in each team`
`20:25.32`	`NeoTron`	`Odlaw: I mark ppl that should take the portal that just spawned`
`20:25.37`	`Odlaw`	`ah`
`20:25.45`	`Apoco`	`instead of it basing it off of the group they are in`
`20:25.51`	`Apoco`	`Odlaw: same`
`20:25.51`	`Odlaw`	`ya, i thought about that, made one that just announced who got out of order`
`20:25.52`	`NeoTron`	`right`
`20:26.06`	`Apoco`	`the original Kalecgos mod I wrote worked great`
`20:26.12`	`NeoTron`	`Apoco: which 1) requires setup,2) means suboptimal groups for healing`
`20:26.31`	`Apoco`	`assuming 0 tanks got ported in the first 4 portals, and nobody fucked up portals`
`20:26.32`	`Apoco`	`lol`
`20:26.40`	`Apoco`	`eh, not really #2`
`20:26.41`	`NeoTron`	`Apoco: which pretty much means it didn't work ;-)`
`20:26.45`	`NeoTron`	`yes 2`
`20:26.47`	`Apoco`	`well it did work!`
`20:26.53`	`Apoco`	`lol`
`20:26.57`	`Apoco`	`it just didnt work with user error`
`20:26.57`	`Apoco`	`:(`
`20:27.04`	`NeoTron`	`piorting a tank ~= user error`
`20:27.14`	`Apoco`	`ok well`
`20:27.20`	`NeoTron`	`my addon still requires ppl to actually go into the portal they are supposed to`
`20:27.24`	`Apoco`	`tanks need to learn to not get ported imo`
`20:27.45`	`NeoTron`	`and most of our wipes last night was because ppl didn't go in`
`20:27.59`	Funkeh`	`NeoTron, you could start a timer or so`
`20:28.11`	Funkeh`	`if you're not in it by 10sec`
`20:28.17`	`Apoco`	`most of our wipes are due to too many people taking the portal`
`20:28.23`	`Apoco`	`or like 5 healers take it and 0 dps`
`20:28.25`	`Apoco`	`or some shit`
`20:28.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`20:28.34`	`NeoTron`	Funkeh`: it currently doesn't care at alla bout who actually enters. :-P
`20:28.45`	Funkeh`	`k`
`20:29.06`	`Odlaw`	`guess it depends on what strat you use`
`20:29.10`	`Apoco`	`yeah`
`20:29.14`	`NeoTron`	`the 4 groups of 5 is nice too because we ensured that each group had decurser x1, MT healer x1, group healer x1`
`20:29.39`	`Apoco`	`I honestly agree with you, but alass my guild doesnt do it that way`
`20:29.56`	`Apoco`	`so I adapted RBM to deal with how I do it, and it will work with any method, will just require setup`
`20:29.57`	`Apoco`	`:(`
`20:30.04`	`NeoTron`	`and to address tank surviving (we had issues) the 5th group has 2 warlocks with imps`
`20:30.16`	`NeoTron`	`also we run with 8 healers`
`20:30.20`	`NeoTron`	`most ppl seem to run with 9-10 healers`
`20:30.23`	`Odlaw`	`ya, our strat is having assigned portals, and people have to go in that particular order.. so we have to watch for people going out of order`
`20:30.31`	`Apoco`	`we've never really had a tank die`
`20:30.38`	`Apoco`	`its usually the damn humanoid dying`
`20:30.40`	`Odlaw`	`works well, but is overly complicatedi mo`
`20:30.44`	`Odlaw`	`imo`
`20:30.51`	`NeoTron`	`Odlaw: so you break group synergy?`
`20:30.58`	`Odlaw`	`ya`
`20:31.01`	`NeoTron`	`or not so much synergy (from a dps perspective)`
`20:31.15`	`NeoTron`	`that is what mhy first iteration of the addon did`
`20:31.27`	`Apoco`	`just bring like 6 resto shamnas`
`20:31.29`	`Apoco`	`like we do`
`20:31.31`	`Apoco`	`and chain heal to death`
`20:31.34`	`NeoTron`	`it put people inside in a specific order, trying to account for healers/decursers`
`20:31.37`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: profile copy in Omen doesn't do anything yet?`
`20:31.39`	`*** part/#wowace Daagaak (n=matt@78.149.74.40)`
`20:31.46`	`NeoTron`	`ah that's why you have no issues`
`20:31.48`	`NeoTron`	`we have 1 resto shaman`
`20:31.50`	`Antiarc`	`Zhinjio: If not, it's an ace3 problem ;)`
`20:31.52`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what the hell do you need a spleen for?`
`20:31.53`	`NeoTron`	`3 CoH priests`
`20:32.08`	`[Ammo]`	`Antiarc: if you register the callbacks it'll work :p`
`20:32.15`	`Apoco`	`^`
`20:32.16`	`[Ammo]`	`to update on a new profile`
`20:32.26`	`Apoco`	`I still say blame [Ammo]`
`20:32.44`	`[Ammo]`	`stick to your own bloat plix, and don't touch mine :p`
`20:33.02`	`basslingo`	`i <3 Ace3 :)`
`20:33.03`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: it seems to do nothing. A reload then adopts the new settings. Is this true of all Ace3 mods? that would suck.`
`20:33.07`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`20:33.21`	`[Ammo]`	`that's because Antiarc doesn't register the profile change callbacks!`
`20:33.22`	`Zhinjio`	`aha.`
`20:33.34`	`Antiarc`	`[Ammo]: NO, MAKE IT MAGICAL`
`20:33.35`	`Antiarc`	`>_>`
`20:33.35`	`[Ammo]`	`which makes it his problem and not Ace3`
`20:33.39`	`Zhinjio`	`har.`
`20:33.44`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`20:33.46`	`Zhinjio`	`fight! fight!`
`20:33.56`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug, I'm just psychic`
`20:33.56`	`Zhinjio`	`distributes clubs and cocktails.`
`20:34.00`	`Apoco`	`Antiarc: please don't make another commit`
`20:34.02`	`[Ammo]`	`I can point out stuff in his code without even checking`
`20:34.06`	`Apoco`	`I've already updated my 20 times today`
`20:34.06`	`Maelos`	`I noticed this actually with Omen`
`20:34.22`	`[Ammo]`	`and Maelos should learn to code so he can make proper compilations`
`20:34.23`	`Zhinjio`	`Apoco: so wait until it isn't changing anymore?`
`20:34.23`	`Maelos`	`If you copy a profile you need to exit out of wow to get the changes to apply`
`20:34.26`	`[Ammo]`	`instead of demanding authors change their ways`
`20:34.27`	`Maelos`	`[Ammo]: :(`
`20:34.34`	`Zhinjio`	`Maelos: reload works`
`20:34.36`	`Maelos`	`I know how to code`
`20:34.41`	`Maelos`	`Just not lua :)`
`20:34.52`	`[Ammo]`	`touch cookies :p`
`20:34.58`	`Maelos`	`Seriously though`
`20:35.03`	`[Ammo]`	`not going to happen`
`20:35.04`	`Zhinjio`	`touches [Ammo]'s cookies.`
`20:35.07`	`Maelos`	`I don't think compilation maintainers should have to write code`
`20:35.07`	`Apoco`	`I'll be the first to admit I don't know how to code`
`20:35.18`	`Apoco`	`I just smash my head on the keyboard and shit works`
`20:35.18`	`Apoco`	`:(`
`20:35.21`	`[Ammo]`	`I agree, compilation maintainers should be shot`
`20:35.24`	`Psycho`	`Apoco: You are now a software engineer.`
`20:35.32`	`Apoco`	`lol`
`20:35.47`	`[Ammo]`	`they will be the second against the wall when the revolution comes, right after Alar`
`20:35.54`	`Apoco`	`Alar?`
`20:35.59`	`Apoco`	`I ride him around in shat ^_^`
`20:36.13`	`[Ammo]`	`Alar from AlarLib`
`20:36.18`	`Apoco`	`oh`
`20:36.24`	`Apoco`	`~AlarLib`
`20:36.26`	`Apoco`	`wtf?`
`20:37.05`	`Psycho`	`I just wanted to try it because everyone else was using neat tildes to do things and purl whined at me :(`
`20:37.32`	`Maelos`	`[Ammo]: So, here's the thing. Even if we wrote code to copy all the data structures, we'd still be copying WTF folders around for the layout cache.`
`20:37.35`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: when you have 'autocollapse' on and the window locked, is there anything that limits the maximum growth?`
`20:37.38`	`Dashkal`	`I've often wondered how purl learns things...`
`20:37.38`	`Aeyan`	`~cake`
`20:37.38`	`purl`	`the cake is a lie!`
`20:37.42`	`[eu]gunder`	`~fail Psycho`
`20:37.42`	`purl`	`Psycho: FAIL!`
`20:37.46`	`Apoco`	`~ping`
`20:37.47`	`purl`	`pong`
`20:37.48`	Funkeh`	`does purl is my daughter`
`20:37.48`	`[Ammo]`	`Maelos: no`
`20:37.50`	`Apoco`	`wow laggy`
`20:38.05`	`[Ammo]`	`Maelos: learn to be like Mazzlefizz and write a proper compilation suite`
`20:38.09`	`Maelos`	`[Ammo]: Also, the profile issue means it's not just a copy. You need to determine the Char - Server of the user and copy TO and FROM different key names in those cases.`
`20:38.11`	`Psycho`	`gunder, you should think about people's feelings before you do things like that D:`
`20:38.11`	Funkeh`	`she lives in china and types stuff when you ask her`
`20:38.12`	`Antiarc`	`Zhinjio: Number of bars to show`
`20:38.18`	Funkeh`	`purl, I love you`
`20:38.19`	`purl`	`You love you?`
`20:38.19`	`[Ammo]`	`Maelos: not true`
`20:38.20`	`Maelos`	`I'm not Mazzle and I'm not trying to be.`
`20:38.20`	`kergoth`	`Maelos: no, you could easily make a little addon to move things around after the layout cache loads if its the first time loaded, and the layout cache would store the new locations`
`20:38.31`	`Zhinjio`	`aha. didn't catch that. thanks.`
`20:38.34`	`NeoTron`	`~Dashkal`
`20:38.34`	`purl`	`rumour has it, dashkal is my lovechild.`
`20:38.42`	`Apoco`	`~Ammo`
`20:38.43`	`purl`	`methinks ammo is someone that should reroll druid and call his character Ammoooo`
`20:38.44`	`Dashkal`	`oh lord`
`20:38.47`	`kenlyric`	`it's best not to play`
`20:38.51`	`Apoco`	`lol`
`20:38.55`	`Bruners`	`anyone had problems with macro casting spells as ghost on teron?`
`20:39.01`	`Apoco`	`Amoooo`
`20:39.02`	`Dashkal`	`note to self, neotron knows how to poke the purl...`
`20:39.03`	`kenlyric`	`sorry, they started it`
`20:39.03`	`Apoco`	`thats awesome`
`20:39.08`	`kenlyric`	`~kenlyric`
`20:39.09`	`purl`	`well, kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack`
`20:39.13`	`Zhinjio`	`is it intentional that #bars to show includes the titlebar?`
`20:39.20`	`Maelos`	`If a generic tool was around to generate what we're talking about I would gladly use it`
`20:39.21`	`Zhinjio`	`er, wait.`
`20:39.22`	`Apoco`	`~Apoco`
`20:39.26`	`Zhinjio`	`1 less than that.`
`20:39.27`	`Zhinjio`	`weird.`
`20:39.36`	`Apoco`	`;(`
`20:39.42`	`NeoTron`	`~MagicMarker`
`20:39.43`	`purl`	`i guess magicmarker is magic.`
`20:39.52`	`Maelos`	`kergoth: I guess this goes back to not being a lua coder.`
`20:39.54`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: auto-collapse on, numbars = 10, show test bars on. 8 bars are visible + title bar`
`20:40.02`	`[Ammo]`	`Maelos: correct :p`
`20:40.06`	`Aiiane`	`purl, Apoco is sadface`
`20:40.06`	`purl`	`okay, Aiiane`
`20:40.10`	`Aiiane`	`~Apoco`
`20:40.11`	`purl`	`[apoco] sadface`
`20:40.13`	`Maelos`	`So, maybe create an example for me? :)`
`20:40.18`	`Apoco`	`")`
`20:40.20`	`Maelos`	`I will send you milk and cookies.`
`20:40.20`	`Apoco`	`:(*`
`20:40.33`	`Apoco`	`~Apoco`
`20:40.34`	`purl`	`it has been said that apoco is sadface`
`20:40.40`	`*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-209-116-84.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)`
`20:40.44`	`Zhinjio`	`~Zhinjio`
`20:40.48`	`Zhinjio`	`har.`
`20:41.03`	`Zhinjio`	`I fly in the shadows. Under Radar.`
`20:41.14`	`Zhinjio`	`shrugs.`
`20:41.15`	`Apoco`	`purl, Zhinjio is a newb`
`20:41.15`	`purl`	`okay, Apoco`
`20:41.20`	`Aiiane`	`purl, Zhinjio is a stealth bomber`
`20:41.21`	`purl`	`...but zhinjio is already something else...`
`20:41.25`	`Aiiane`	`bah`
`20:41.26`	`Antiarc`	`Zhinjio: I'll check it`
`20:41.26`	`Aiiane`	`beat me`
`20:41.33`	`Apoco`	`~Zhinjio`
`20:41.34`	`purl`	`i guess zhinjio is a newb`
`20:41.39`	`Apoco`	`ownt`
`20:41.40`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: not a big deal, honestly. just weirdness.`
`20:41.48`	`Zhinjio`	`~zhinjio`
`20:41.48`	`purl`	`extra, extra, read all about it, zhinjio is a newb`
`20:41.52`	`Zhinjio`	`hahahahah`
`20:41.54`	`Zhinjio`	`awesome.`
`20:42.07`	`Maelos`	`I would really prefer to do it the way you guys are suggesting.`
`20:42.26`	`Maelos`	`It would allow for just copying addons into place rather than renaming subfolders in the WTF dir.`
`20:42.34`	`Maelos`	`I'm just not sure how to do it.l`
`20:42.39`	`[eu]gunder`	`~pat Psycho`
`20:42.40`	`purl`	`ACTION pats Psycho and says "Nicely Done!"`
`20:42.54`	`Aiiane`	`~nom Psycho`
`20:42.56`	`Zhinjio`	`Show Test Bars also ignores bar color settings for aggro bars/your bar.`
`20:42.56`	`Aiiane`	`:\|`
`20:43.01`	`[eu]gunder`	`is it better Psycho?`
`20:43.02`	`Aiiane`	`needs to be implemented imo`
`20:43.10`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Antiarc ping`
`20:43.30`	`Zhinjio`	`Antiarc: I'll shuddup now. You obviously have much more important parts of the addon to work on. I'll jira this stuff`
`20:43.34`	`Psycho`	`[eu]gunder: it stings a little less now.`
`20:43.53`	`nevcairiel`	`does auto-collapse still shring the window to its center rather then the top or the bottom?`
`20:43.56`	`nevcairiel`	`that was rather weird =P`
`20:44.01`	`nevcairiel`	`*shrink`
`20:44.10`	`Pkekyo\|`	`anyone know what a spleen does?`
`20:44.20`	`Pkekyo\|`	`and if you really need it?`
`20:44.53`	`*** join/#wowace chdst (n=smyers@adsl-221-7-201.rmo.bellsouth.net)`
`20:44.57`	`[eu]gunder`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spleen`
`20:45.00`	`kenlyric`	`didn't they use to think it was the seat of dark emotions?`
`20:45.02`	`nevcairiel`	`its not "needed", but if you dont have it, you are more likely to get infections`
`20:45.03`	`Antiarc`	`FtH\|Daemona: Yo`
`20:45.04`	`CIA-39`	`03antiarc * r68812 10MobSpells/MobSpells.lua: MobSpells: Add right-click menus for deleting crap`
`20:45.09`	`kenlyric`	`"vent your spleen"`
`20:45.18`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`could it be retribution paladin thread is a bit funky?`
`20:45.25`	`hypetech`	`is wow refusing to close gracefully a known bug?`
`20:45.26`	Funkeh`	`no`
`20:45.30`	Funkeh`	`maybe it's a bit wierd`
`20:45.32`	Funkeh`	`not funky`
`20:45.38`	`Zeksie`	Elsia: Recount-68718\Tracker.lua:600: attempt to index local 'who' (a nil value)Recount-68718\Tracker.lua:1337: in function `AddHealData'
`20:45.44`	`kenlyric`	`hypetech: it seems to happen to people`
`20:45.47`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`hmm our retribution paladin is constantly above the tank on demon bosses but not pulling aggro`
`20:45.48`	`kenlyric`	`I'd blame a mod though`
`20:45.59`	`Elsia`	`Zeksie: thanks, try updating, that should be fixed already`
`20:46.02`	`kenlyric`	`probably a mod that's trying to save and it's failing`
`20:46.18`	`Elsia`	`1337 bug ftw :D`
`20:46.23`	`Zeksie`	`ok`
`20:46.35`	`hypetech`	`If I install KA_RT from WAU, will it mess up my existing CT_RT?`
`20:46.36`	`Zhinjio`	`Elsia: pardon my ignorance ... but why are both you and Cryect working on separate versions of recount?`
`20:46.54`	`Zeksie`	`it's not on wau yet :\|`
`20:47.03`	`Elsia`	`I work on the old recount to keep it functional while cryect makes a new one that is not yet functional fully`
`20:47.14`	`Zhinjio`	`aha`
`20:47.16`	`Elsia`	`the idea is that people always have something full-featured`
`20:47.17`	`Zhinjio`	`thanks`
`20:48.40`	`kergoth`	`Apoco: is there an easy way to say show buffs in this bar group, but only buffs A B and C? like the filters, but a list of things to include, not exclude?`
`20:48.41`	`*** join/#wowace mort_ (n=mort@azureus/mort)`
`20:48.46`	`kergoth`	`or should i just exclude eveyrthing but those things?`
`20:48.51`	`Elsia`	`also I hope some of the code I write for r1 will be actually useful for r2, like the zone-dependent deletion code etc. so it's not a complete split, and r2 actually uses some of my combatlog code from r1`
`20:49.34`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpDZ3WotLXY`
`20:49.58`	`[Ammo]`	`marge! beer me!`
`20:51.20`	`Maelos`	`Maybe one of you coders could write us lowly UI compilation guys an example of what you're talking about? :)`
`20:51.43`	`Apoco`	`kergoth: Exclude everything for now`
`20:52.06`	`kergoth`	`kk`
`20:52.41`	`Apoco`	`I'll add in an Include Only feature sometime soon`
`20:52.45`	`Julith`	`is there a list which combinations of prefixes and suffixes are possible as events?`
`20:52.46`	`Chaud`	`what is a lightweight addon that just opens mail that I check or something`
`20:53.20`	`Apoco`	`Chaud: CT_MailMod`
`20:53.21`	`Apoco`	`imo`
`20:53.24`	`*** join/#wowace Keya (n=pschrine@xdsl-84-44-229-94.netcologne.de)`
`20:53.46`	`Chaud`	`Yeah, I have that but it is buggy`
`20:53.47`	`[Ammo]`	`Chaud: ExpressMail by tekkub can do what you want`
`20:53.54`	`Chaud`	`isn't opening mail I check fully`
`20:53.55`	`nevcairiel`	`Antiarc: MORE COWBELL! :)`
`20:53.56`	`[Ammo]`	`betterinbox can open all as well`
`20:54.04`	`_rane`	`why doesn't the "standby" feature exist in ace3?`
`20:54.12`	`_rane`	`i mean the /addon standby thing that ace2 addons have`
`20:54.16`	`Chaud`	`and empty mails, when I try to delete them it says deleting this will remove some items`
`20:55.31`	`Chaud`	`does betterinbox allow me to check just certain mails to open?`
`20:55.43`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`20:55.51`	`[Ammo]`	`it can only do open all or open all items or open all gold`
`20:56.03`	`Chaud`	`does it work fine with Express Mail`
`20:56.05`	`Zhinjio`	`Elsia: does Recount have a "Show Test Bars" sort of thing?`
`20:56.23`	`Elsia`	`Zhinjio: no, not really`
`20:56.28`	`ANTRat`	`bulkmail2inbox (i think thats the name) lets you check what to open`
`20:56.28`	`[Ammo]`	`Expressmail allows you to click mails you want to open with a modifier afaik`
`20:56.28`	`Zhinjio`	`k`
`20:56.46`	`Chaud`	`allrighty, thanks =)`
`21:00.50`	`thul`	`anyone from berlin? :-P`
`21:01.30`	`hypetech`	`anybody know how to do the db backup from ctrt to kart while they are both running?`
`21:02.51`	`Maelos`	`Crickets about my example request... :(`
`21:04.07`	`Chaud`	`what about a not amazingly heavy money addon, something that does more than moneyfu, but I don't need it telling me where I spent money on the 12th of last month =\`
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`21:04.58`	`Cyn1`	`so why are they makign recount2`
`21:05.10`	`Cyn1`	`recount1 seems to be doing fine`
`21:05.26`	`Chaud`	`why add features, who needz doze!`
`21:05.59`	`Psycho`	`Also I always have sex in the missionary position because it works for having babies so why change that.`
`21:06.11`	`Cyn1`	`lulz`
`21:06.19`	`NeoTron`	`Cyn1: because cryect feels like it?`
`21:06.19`	`Cyn1`	`i guess i fail`
`21:06.22`	`Elsia`	`well cryect is better to answer that, but basically recount1 is based on a very different idea of collecting and organising data, that is still dominated by how the old combat log worked`
`21:06.31`	`Cyn1`	`ah`
`21:06.46`	`Cyn1`	`so recount1 is just to be used until recount2 is done`
`21:06.53`	`Elsia`	`not sure`
`21:07.08`	`Elsia`	`so far we don't have recount2 in fully functioning form so it's hypothetical`
`21:07.24`	`Cyn1`	`i jsut ask cause seems overall recount is bettery than anythign out their`
`21:07.26`	`Cyn1`	`there*`
`21:07.36`	`Cyn1`	`swstats is shit`
`21:07.46`	`Elsia`	`nah there are lots of good ones, just different`
`21:07.55`	`Elsia`	`it depends what one wants`
`21:07.57`	`Psycho`	`WRU 2.4 assessment!`
`21:08.10`	`Cyn1`	`the details recount has is the best part`
`21:08.12`	`Elsia`	`recap, violation, sws, there is a new one too yacl I think`
`21:08.18`	`Cyn1`	`most dmg meters dont have that info`
`21:08.38`	`Cyn1`	`anyways`
`21:08.54`	`Elsia`	`well I'm glad you like it.. I like recount too, fits my way of looking for stuff`
`21:08.59`	`NeoTron`	`Cyn1: the details is also the worst part :)`
`21:09.04`	`Elsia`	`but that's why there are many addons, there are different styles ;)`
`21:09.14`	`NeoTron`	`meaning the main issue ppl have have with recount is memory use`
`21:09.18`	`Cyn1`	`why is it the worst part...casue you cant turn it off`
`21:09.28`	`kenlyric`	`upgrade from 1999`
`21:09.28`	`Elsia`	`i actually want an honest memory comparison between recount and other addons`
`21:09.35`	`kenlyric`	`it's a new millenium`
`21:09.40`	`Cyn1`	`well atleast it doesnt crash your system like sw does`
`21:09.51`	`Elsia`	`i spend a lot of time reducing data. currently recount runs at below 923 KiB when no combat has happened`
`21:10.06`	`Elsia`	`and a 5-man MgT heroic will get you to about 2.3 MiB`
`21:10.21`	`Cyn1`	`25man bt clear to RoS 38 :(`
`21:10.24`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: it's the 30+ MB after a raid :P`
`21:10.41`	`Elsia`	`update and let me know if the numbers stay that way`
`21:10.41`	`Cyn1`	`but that is alot of data`
`21:10.48`	`Cyn1`	`yea`
`21:10.51`	`Cyn1`	`ill elt you kow tonight`
`21:10.57`	`Saroz`	`Elsia, when someone leaves raid during combat, recount blows up at GUI_Main:729, attempt to index field ?`
`21:10.58`	`NeoTron`	`I'll do the same`
`21:10.59`	`Cyn1`	`we got MH`
`21:11.04`	`Cyn1`	`full clear tongiht`
`21:11.06`	`NeoTron`	`although tonight is a bad night since we're doing butallus`
`21:11.09`	`NeoTron`	`there's no trash or anything`
`21:11.12`	`Elsia`	`basically you can absolutely overload recount, simply turn on all data collection, but that's why there are filters`
`21:11.13`	`baer_`	`how many healers do your guilds take to teron gorefiend?`
`21:11.24`	`Cyn1`	`6`
`21:11.33`	`Psycho`	`7 is optimal, we've done it with 6 or 8 at times.`
`21:11.40`	`Psycho`	`*optimal FOR MY GUILD`
`21:11.42`	`Cyn1`	`1 tree 3 shaman 2-3 palies`
`21:11.46`	`Cyn1`	`6-7`
`21:11.49`	`Psycho`	`Don't want to step on anyone's toes =P`
`21:11.52`	`NeoTron`	`depends on what your issues are`
`21:12.08`	`Cyn1`	`we tried illidan with 5 healers`
`21:12.12`	`Cyn1`	`FAIL!`
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`21:12.17`	`Elsia`	`Saroz: I tried to commit a fix for that already. Let me know if it persists.`
`21:12.21`	`NeoTron`	`ironically "people dies" doesn't necessarily mean too few healers`
`21:12.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`anyone here willing to fix power auras?`
`21:12.25`	`NeoTron`	`it could mean too manu`
`21:12.43`	`Aiiane`	`Elsia, can you make it so that the "Clear Data" prompt doesn't come up in battlegrounds/arenas if you have data collection turned off for them?`
`21:12.58`	`Cyn1`	`elsia, i want to collect data for my raid what are best filters to use`
`21:13.07`	`Cyn1`	`i dotn need time data`
`21:13.27`	`Elsia`	`Aiiane: i'll look into it`
`21:13.29`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: so out of curiosity is Recount supposed to be able to give correct data on kalecgos?`
`21:13.37`	`NeoTron`	`does it require everyone using it?`
`21:13.44`	`Elsia`	`Cyn1: turn of all time filters, your own is on by default`
`21:13.58`	`kenlyric`	`it needs a "filter obviously bad data" option`
`21:14.06`	`kenlyric`	`like when I do the shattered sun bombing run :)`
`21:14.07`	`Saroz`	`Elsia, it does, line 741 now`
`21:14.09`	`Xelopheris`	`Neotron: Kalecgos would require someone in each phase collecting and sharing.`
`21:14.10`	`Elsia`	`NeoTron: that the split fight in SW?`
`21:14.17`	`Elsia`	`Saroz: thanks, let me check`
`21:14.18`	`Cyn1`	`Saroz`
`21:14.24`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: exactly`
`21:14.38`	`Cyn1`	`delete all of the wtf saved varibles files fro recount`
`21:14.41`	`Cyn1`	`and try`
`21:14.49`	`Cyn1`	`that seemed to fix my problem`
`21:14.51`	`Elsia`	`NeoTron: it's meant to be exact if everybody runs recount`
`21:14.51`	`Saroz`	`bah`
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`21:14.58`	`Elsia`	`it isn't meant to be exact if not`
`21:14.58`	`Cyn1`	`last night with 729 error`
`21:15.19`	`Elsia`	`i.e. it only syncs data from people who have recount correctly, everybody else isn't fully sync'd-`
`21:15.19`	`NeoTron`	`so the answer is when syncing recount sends OWN data`
`21:15.33`	`Elsia`	`own, and pets and bosses`
`21:15.36`	`NeoTron`	`ok`
`21:15.45`	`Elsia`	`own pets to be precise`
`21:15.50`	`Cyn1`	`if soemoen that uses recount has an old version`
`21:15.56`	`Cyn1`	`can mess up data`
`21:15.57`	`Cyn1`	`?`
`21:16.08`	`Saroz`	`Elsia, aaaand lazysync:250: attempt to index field 'vernum' nil val`
`21:16.08`	`Elsia`	`I may do a full sync option, but first I have to see if the MH lag reports are lazy-sync's fault.`
`21:16.10`	`NeoTron`	`so I checked Kalecgos' revitalize`
`21:16.13`	`Cyn1`	`or is it backwards compatible`
`21:16.27`	`NeoTron`	`it seems like the known issue is that it only hits people without mana rather than only hits ppl with mana`
`21:16.34`	`NeoTron`	`someone misplaced a not/!`
`21:16.47`	`Xelopheris`	`Are you checking by buffs or by gains?`
`21:16.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`there's never a reason to use an old version anyway, unless it's broken, so what's the point =]`
`21:16.57`	`Xelopheris`	`Also realize that you only have 4-6 people in raid who don't have mana probably`
`21:17.02`	`Cyn1`	`some people dont update`
`21:17.08`	`Cyn1`	`when a new version is out`
`21:17.24`	`charon`	`Elsia: antiar.c has added a mob blacklist for the Crypt Fiend scarab mobs, perhaps that was the issue at fault, or perhaps it works for you too`
`21:17.28`	`NeoTron`	`Xelopheris: me? I was checking the raw combat log`
`21:17.36`	`NeoTron`	`it hit the rogue and 2 warriors only`
`21:17.45`	`Elsia`	`Saroz: do you have sync turned off?`
`21:17.58`	`Xelopheris`	`do you have multiple people's combat logs, neotron?`
`21:18.04`	`NeoTron`	`no`
`21:18.15`	`Xelopheris`	`and are you a rogue/warrior?`
`21:18.16`	`Elsia`	`charon: what's up with the crypt fiends?`
`21:18.17`	`Saroz`	`Elsia, no`
`21:18.21`	`NeoTron`	`but we ALL stood in fron front of kalecgos`
`21:18.27`	`NeoTron`	`and no one else saw it`
`21:18.30`	`NeoTron`	`and no I'm a warlock`
`21:18.41`	`Elsia`	`Saroz: odd lazy sync bug. that shouldn't happen, I'll commit a bandaid until I find out why`
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`21:19.17`	`Saroz`	`lot of stuff that shouldnt happen`
`21:19.18`	`charon`	`Elsia: they spawn small scarabs that are never reported to die or anything, so those apparently built up in threat's internal tables and caused unneeded syncs`
`21:19.19`	`NeoTron`	`interestingly enough, maybe not a surprise, feral druids are considered as having mana`
`21:19.22`	`Cyn1`	`is their a way to only sync with compatible versions?`
`21:19.35`	`charon`	`Elsia: you'd have to ask him about the details, i didn't have anything to do with that fix`
`21:19.43`	`Antiarc`	`Correct`
`21:19.46`	`Antiarc`	`They never have a death message`
`21:19.50`	`Antiarc`	`They just stop showing up in the log`
`21:19.52`	`NeoTron`	`I always figured the scarabs were just like a fireball or so - a graphical representation of a projectile`
`21:19.58`	`Antiarc`	`They're an actual NPC`
`21:20.03`	`Elsia`	`Cyn1: there are some compatibility checks`
`21:20.04`	`NeoTron`	`so I figured now yes`
`21:20.05`	`NeoTron`	`well`
`21:20.08`	`NeoTron`	`last time in hyjal`
`21:20.52`	`Elsia`	`Antiarc: what's the issue with no death message? oh to see when to terminate thread display?`
`21:20.59`	`charon`	`Antiarc: damn, i carefully un-highlight your nick and you still arrive right on time ;)`
`21:21.12`	`Cyn1`	`slaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout`
`21:21.20`	`Antiarc`	`charon: You said "threat" :P`
`21:21.24`	`charon`	`meh`
`21:21.27`	`NeoTron`	`he has a regexp looking for A N T I A R C with any number of character inbetween`
`21:21.30`	`Antiarc`	`Elsia: A death message means "Take this one out of the threat tables", which helps keep a lot of stuff lean`
`21:21.37`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68813 10Omen/Modules/ (AOE/AOE.lua Overview/Overview.lua): Omen: Revert r68784 as it seems to cause display glitches`
`21:21.46`	`Antiarc`	`But you can have 80-100 scarabs spawned in a single wave in Hyjal, easily`
`21:21.53`	`Elsia`	`Antiarc: I see, well recount doesn't really have that issue, because I either keep or never collect`
`21:21.59`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: did that cause post-combat chugging ? :P`
`21:22.01`	`CIA-39`	`03charon 07charon * r68814 10Omen/ (Bar.lua Modules/AOE/AOE.lua): Omen: fix AOE mode raid target symbols`
`21:22.06`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: Very possibly`
`21:22.16`	`NeoTron`	`factor 10 more mobs or so`
`21:22.21`	`charon`	`Antiarc: the latter change is rather trivial, and i've tested it, perhaps you could merge it Real Soon(tm) ;)`
`21:22.27`	`Cyn1`	`man you guys are commited`
`21:22.33`	`Cyn1`	`i woudl go crazy`
`21:22.53`	`Antiarc`	`I'll check it`
`21:24.16`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68815 10Recount/LazySync.lua:`
`21:24.16`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`21:24.16`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed bugs in lazy sync. Bandaid to prevent non-existing vernum table. Also party and raid members should now correctly be detected to have a valid vernum.`
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`21:25.31`	`*** join/#wowace doc^bla (n=Miranda@c203239.adsl.hansenet.de)`
`21:25.35`	`Cyn1`	`question, what drives you do mod these very popular mods?`
`21:25.55`	`haste`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:26.03`	`CIA-39`	`03totalpackage * r68816 10StellarUF/core.lua:`
`21:26.03`	`CIA-39`	`StellarUF:`
`21:26.03`	`CIA-39`	`- seems that UnitClass("pet") now returns pet's name (or "Unknown") and CLASS; info text for pets now shows creature family instead`
`21:26.04`	`Cyn1`	`it is obvious that it isnt money`
`21:26.23`	`Cyn1`	`and you guys are always at it`
`21:26.32`	`haste`	`because it's fun?`
`21:26.56`	`Cyn1`	`coding/bug fixing isnt fun`
`21:26.58`	`Dashkal`	`Cyn1: My motivation tends to be 1) fun 2) cause the exsting options annoy me somehow`
`21:26.58`	`Cyn1`	`:P`
`21:27.09`	`Dashkal`	`solving interesting problems is fun.`
`21:27.13`	`Cyn1`	`yes`
`21:27.18`	`CIA-39`	`03xbeeps * r68817 10BunchOfBars/ (BunchOfBars.toc Libs/ embeds.xml):`
`21:27.18`	`CIA-39`	`BunchOfBars:`
`21:27.18`	`CIA-39`	`- Get rid of LibBabble-Spell-3.0 (not used anymore by BoB). With very little`
`21:27.18`	`CIA-39`	`work Babble-Spell-2.2 can be pruned as well, as only DogTag-1.0 has it as an`
`21:27.18`	`CIA-39`	`optional dependency and it is only used directly for a few simple look-ups that`
`21:27.19`	`CIA-39`	`can now be replaced by GetSpellInfo easily.`
`21:27.23`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68818 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua:`
`21:27.24`	`Dashkal`	`coding/bug fixing is the work needed to reach that goal`
`21:27.25`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`21:27.27`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix nil error when unit leaves group mid-combat.`
`21:27.28`	`Cyn1`	`i agree with that`
`21:27.28`	`Maelos`	`Anyone know of a good raid assignments mod aside from FuriousTask?`
`21:27.35`	`haste`	`coding is fun`
`21:27.57`	`haste`	`if it wasn't, I wouldn't be spending several hours each day at it`
`21:28.06`	`Cyn1`	`:D`
`21:28.18`	`Dashkal`	`I live for the design, personally. Coding to me is testing that the design that looks so pretty is actually worth something. Debugging sucks`
`21:28.53`	`Gagorian-`	`Is Threat-2.0 broken for retri paladins?`
`21:28.57`	`Gagorian-`	`Or as in`
`21:29.02`	`Gagorian-`	`showing constantly too high threat`
`21:29.06`	`Maelos`	`Do they actually generate threat? :)`
`21:29.10`	`Elsia`	`Saroz: let me know if those two fixed your issues`
`21:29.17`	`Kazie`	`Maelos, a lot of threat actually ^^`
`21:29.18`	`Gagorian-`	`Maelos: Constantly on top now`
`21:29.18`	`Xelopheris`	`Maelos, I'm sorry your ret paladins suck.`
`21:29.27`	`Maelos`	`I'm joking, I know`
`21:29.27`	`Cyn1`	`yes ret palies have alot of threat`
`21:30.00`	`Kazie`	`Well my Omen2 doesn't show anyone but me either... even tho others in my group have omen2.. i don't know what's going on :o`
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`21:30.14`	`Dashkal`	`Kazie: Probably version differences`
`21:30.20`	`Cyn1`	`^`
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`21:30.49`	`Kazie`	`it's kinda stupid that if 1 have the latest update of omen2 he can't see anyone but himself if the others have a lastest out-of-date version :o`
`21:30.52`	`Dashkal`	`Omen2/Threat2 is a total rewrite of omen1/threat2 due to the combat log changes. Hence it's been in a pretty tight release/test/fix cycle.`
`21:31.09`	`Dashkal`	`in english: update omen daily`
`21:31.17`	`Kazie`	`I do`
`21:31.21`	`Kazie`	`But many others don't ^^`
`21:31.24`	`Dashkal`	`make sure they do as well`
`21:31.28`	`vithos`	`Kazie: use the version check feature`
`21:31.34`	`Dashkal`	`^^^`
`21:31.35`	`vithos`	`to annoy those that don't`
`21:31.47`	`Kazie`	`There's a version check feature? ^^`
`21:31.51`	`Kazie`	`must have missed that one`
`21:31.58`	`Kazie`	`Is there any way to check if ppl even have omen2?`
`21:32.05`	`Xelopheris`	`there's a versioncheck in omen`
`21:32.08`	`Kazie`	`Like in the old CTRA`
`21:32.11`	`vithos`	`yes. by using the versionchecks`
`21:32.13`	`Dashkal`	`Does anybody know offhand the slashie to make omen reset itself completely (like profile reset in a / command)`
`21:32.15`	`vithos`	`it's in the config ui`
`21:32.16`	`Xelopheris`	`/omen versioncheck all`
`21:32.17`	`Cyn1`	`kazze before raid get the newest version from files.wowace.com/omen/ then copy that in your comment in vent`
`21:32.25`	`Cyn1`	`tell everyone esp tanks to update to it`
`21:32.31`	`Cyn1`	`if they refuse then your guild fails`
`21:32.43`	`Kazie`	`I know`
`21:32.44`	`Xelopheris`	`And if someone is too lazy to update, have them turn off omen`
`21:32.50`	`Cyn1`	`i am call the "omen nazzi"`
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`21:32.53`	`Cyn1`	`called*`
`21:33.01`	`Xelopheris`	`And if someone runs ktm, gkick :(`
`21:33.06`	`Cyn1`	`basically`
`21:33.07`	`Dashkal`	`cackles`
`21:33.16`	`Kazie`	`haha yea .. i never like KTM my self`
`21:33.21`	`Dashkal`	`From what I hear KTM has been bloating UIs by the thousands lately`
`21:33.23`	`Xelopheris`	`I swear to god ktm sabotages omen`
`21:33.31`	`Kazie`	`tbh i'm kinda bummed if a mod is not on WAU`
`21:33.35`	`Dashkal`	`shudders`
`21:33.39`	`Cyn1`	`KTM has been shit for atleast 10 months`
`21:33.42`	`Nandini`	`omg i just figured out how to make the 2d round unit portraits square`
`21:33.44`	`Dashkal`	`KTM has been shit always`
`21:33.45`	`Cyn1`	`maybe even longer`
`21:33.47`	`Kazie`	`Although SLDT is the only addon that satisfied me outside of WAU after i started using WAU only`
`21:34.04`	`Dashkal`	`I disliked it before omen, but it was the only option. Once I discovered omen I never looked back.`
`21:34.29`	`Dashkal`	`I have a couple non files.wowace.com addons I like. Clique and GroupCalendar are the main ones`
`21:34.33`	`Zhinjio`	`Ellipsis or ckknight : I want to attach an eepanel the raid/party frames, if they exist. I see PitBullCluster2UnitButton1`
`21:34.37`	`Cyn1`	`yea that is why ktm creator refused to work with omen`
`21:34.39`	`Kazie`	`I never used KTM .. but i was a healer back them.. so it wasn't really such big a deal :P`
`21:34.45`	`Kazie`	`i'd never show on the meter anyways :P haha`
`21:34.47`	`Cyn1`	`i remember that shit...he acted like a douoche`
`21:34.48`	`Zhinjio`	`does that mean PitBullCluster2 is a frame that encompasses them?`
`21:35.02`	`Cyn1`	`but then he changed his mind`
`21:35.02`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`21:35.10`	`Cyn1`	`and everyoen is friends`
`21:35.11`	`Cyn1`	`:P`
`21:35.27`	`Dashkal`	`The KTM author seems to be pretty... strongly opinionated. His way is the right way and stfu if you don't like it.`
`21:35.31`	`Cyn1`	`my engrish fail today ;(`
`21:35.34`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: so for other raid frames, that would make it PitBullCluster3, 4, 5, etc?`
`21:35.40`	`Nandini`	`ckknight: for 2d unit portraits, use :SetBlendMode("DISABLE") to get rid of the round mask on them in PB :)`
`21:35.41`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`21:35.46`	`ckknight`	`Nandini: no u`
`21:35.49`	`Dashkal`	`shrugs.`
`21:35.51`	`Dashkal`	`His addon`
`21:35.57`	`Zhinjio`	`is there one that encompesses all the cluster frames? or no.`
`21:36.02`	`ckknight`	`no, Zhinjio`
`21:36.04`	`Zhinjio`	`k`
`21:36.10`	`Zhinjio`	`thanks.`
`21:37.20`	`Cyn1`	`quest helper is awesome`
`21:37.26`	`Cyn1`	`where the ace version`
`21:37.28`	`Cyn1`	`imo`
`21:37.33`	`Nandini`	`ahh nevermind about the blend mode, if you ever use :SetAlpha() on the parent frame it switches the texture's blend mode back to "BLEND" it seems :/`
`21:38.24`	`Nandini`	`or it ignores it completely at least`
`21:39.15`	`Cyn1`	`who uses quest helper?`
`21:39.39`	`*** join/#wowace Kurax (n=kurax@222.130.184.211)`
`21:39.40`	`*** part/#wowace Xan3 (n=xan@85-18-136-103.fastres.net)`
`21:41.44`	`NeoTron`	`Cyn1: "where the ace version" <-- prepare to get flamed!`
`21:41.52`	`NeoTron`	`although I do agree that sort of addon would benefit from automatic updating`
`21:43.34`	`ckknight`	`Cyn1: working on it.`
`21:46.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`debuff tracking thing addon.`
`21:46.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`name one.`
`21:46.09`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: it looks like the cluster numbering gets reassigned every time you enter/leave party?`
`21:46.24`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: yes, it's recycled`
`21:46.26`	`Elsia`	`lua> t=1; print(#t)`
`21:46.27`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: luabot:1: attempt to get length of global 't' (a number value)`
`21:46.31`	`Zhinjio`	`oy. ok.`
`21:46.45`	`Zhinjio`	`eepanels can't deal with that then. no background for you!`
`21:50.29`	`Nandini`	`grr :SetBlendMode() gets ignored whenever i try and do anything cool to a texture with a portrait assigned to it :<`
`21:50.37`	`CIA-39`	`03elsia * r68819 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount_Modes.lua):`
`21:50.37`	`CIA-39`	`Recount:`
`21:50.37`	`CIA-39`	`- Fix mode selection if there is only one detail option.`
`21:50.37`	`CIA-39`	`- Removed two debug messages`
`21:50.53`	`ckknight`	`Nandini: so do :SetBlendMode right after`
`21:51.12`	`Nandini`	`it doesn't get changed back, it's completely ignored, whether i reset it or not`
`21:51.48`	`Nandini`	`can't change the texture's vertext color, gradient, alpha, or any parent's alpha`
`21:51.57`	`Nandini`	`s/vertext/vertex`
`21:52.00`	`ckknight`	`lame.`
`21:52.21`	`*** join/#wowace Orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`21:52.24`	`Nandini`	`which makes it pretty useless in any unit frame that uses alpha or setvertexcolor to indicate range (as most do)`
`21:52.48`	`ckknight`	`ick.`
`21:53.00`	`ckknight`	`even if you have :SetBlendMode running on an OnUpdate? ;-)`
`21:53.11`	`Nandini`	`yup, it just gets ignored completely`
`21:53.19`	`Nandini`	`and acts as if the mode were "BLEND"`
`21:53.40`	`Nandini`	`it must have something to do with the order in which the circular mask is applied during SetPortraitTexture()`
`21:54.29`	`Nandini`	`it's not being done within SetPortraitTexture() itself though, as i can do that as often as i want`
`21:56.23`	`Nandini`	`i suppose if i were to make unitframes utilizing a square 2d portrait, i'd toss another hidden "grey" texture over the entire frame, set its blend mode to "MOD", and show it when a unit goes out of range to "dim" the frame`
`21:56.56`	`Nandini`	`or just make it a black frame and set its alpha to 0.5 or something like that`
`21:57.57`	`ckknight`	`in other news: Blizzard's cosmic map sucks, there's no proportionality.`
`21:57.57`	`ckknight`	`bah.`
`21:58.12`	`ckknight`	`so my idea of having the continents show on the cosmic map is pretty much shot`
`21:58.18`	`ckknight`	`(this is for Cart3, btw)`
`21:58.28`	`Nandini`	`that's because they're on globes :)`
`21:59.31`	`Nandini`	`you could make a warped translation map for positions maybe and settexcoord for the image of the continent itself`
`21:59.38`	`ckknight`	`no, it's because Outland is twice the size it should be on the cosmic map`
`21:59.48`	`Polarina`	`Anyone wants a combat log from me soloing a Horde Halaani Guard for 3 hours?`
`21:59.55`	`ckknight`	`the cosmic map shows Azeroth and Outland as the same size, where Outland should be about half the size`
`22:00.11`	`ckknight`	`that's what I mean by proportionality`
`22:00.21`	`ckknight`	`also, Azeroth is technically flat anyway.`
`22:00.38`	`Nandini`	`ignore the cosmic map image and show them on a black background proportionally? :)`
`22:00.47`	`Zhinjio`	`cry`
`22:00.54`	`Zhinjio`	`I thought these bugs were completely gone`
`22:01.12`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: I just adjusted the height of the party target frames, and the party frames also adjusted height.`
`22:01.20`	`ckknight`	`:-(`
`22:01.23`	`ckknight`	`I blame gnomes`
`22:01.32`	`Zhinjio`	`reloads and tries again`
`22:01.53`	`NeoTron`	`ckknight: always wise`
`22:02.11`	`Nandini`	`wow disagrees with my stupid video card driver anyways when it comes to 2d portraits, they turn into junk whenever i alt-tab back to wow`
`22:02.54`	`CIA-39`	`03zeksie * r68820 10GrimReaper/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`22:02.54`	`CIA-39`	`GrimReaper:`
`22:02.54`	`CIA-39`	`- Added zhCN translation.`
`22:02.54`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed UnitGUID error when players with paladin buffs left the raid.`
`22:04.01`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: Draw your own maps or attempt to scale the cosmic maps. :)`
`22:04.20`	`ckknight`	`Polarina: what Cart3 shows now is just a gray background`
`22:04.25`	`CIA-39`	`03zeksie * r68821 10ZOMGBuffs/ (ZOMGBuffs.lua ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua):`
`22:04.25`	`CIA-39`	`ZOMGBuffs:`
`22:04.25`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed inspect query problem.`
`22:04.25`	`CIA-39`	`- Fixed another list changing table index error when someone rearranges groups in-combat.`
`22:06.04`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: Or just assume that Outland and Azeroth are the same in size (Based on the size of the cosmic maps) and flag it as a Blizzard bug (a.k.a. "can't fix"). It solves my problems.`
`22:06.06`	`*** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116)`
`22:06.28`	`ckknight`	`Polarina: nah, I'd prefer to keep it 1px = 100yd`
`22:06.38`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: Scale it then.`
`22:06.48`	`ckknight`	`you scale by zooming in`
`22:06.57`	`ckknight`	`the moral of the story is that the cosmic map sucks and I'm not using it`
`22:07.17`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68822 10EnchantingSell/ (. EnchantingSell-Util-1.0.lua EnchantingSell.toc):`
`22:07.17`	`CIA-39`	`EnchantingSell:`
`22:07.17`	`CIA-39`	`- Reverting to the version that uses Babble Tradeskill by authors request. BTS > SpellIDs`
`22:07.17`	`ckknight`	`I'd rather have custom artwork or just a solid-color background`
`22:07.28`	`Elsia`	`nite`
`22:07.32`	`ckknight`	`g'night`
`22:07.38`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: Open up Paint and draw something. :)`
`22:07.50`	`ckknight`	`I'm not artistic`
`22:07.53`	`ckknight`	`also, it's not necessary`
`22:07.57`	`ckknight`	`Polarina: you seen Cart3 yet?`
`22:07.59`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: That's why I suggested Paint.`
`22:08.02`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: No, I haven't..`
`22:08.12`	`ckknight`	`want to?`
`22:08.18`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: Why not?`
`22:08.32`	`ckknight`	`http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/e6feb163a6cb58248544cade4b17dafb02a35613.tar.gz`
`22:09.17`	`Polarina`	`Nice. :P`
`22:09.53`	`Dashkal`	`gotta love the git hash...`
`22:10.16`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: world.lua, what is that for?`
`22:10.26`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: Yatlas-like world map? :P`
`22:10.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[00:02] <Nandini> wow disagrees with my stupid video card driver anyways when it comes to 2d portraits, they turn into junk whenever i alt-tab back to wow <--same problem here, and i think it's causing memory corruption in WoW which leads to the well known alt+tab crashes`
`22:10.50`	`ckknight`	`yea, that goes through md5translate.trs and generates the TextureData.lua file`
`22:10.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but nobody believes me`
`22:11.08`	`ckknight`	`sag_ich_nicht: ever.`
`22:11.12`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: /console UIFaster 2`
`22:11.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Polarina: nevar`
`22:11.23`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: :)`
`22:11.25`	`ckknight`	`Polarina: it does the same thing as the instance maps deal, only with the world map, basically.`
`22:11.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`ckknight: got a sunwell map yet?`
`22:11.35`	`ckknight`	`oh yea`
`22:11.43`	`CIA-39`	`03funkydude * r68823 10BigWigs_AQ20/ (6 files): BigWigs_AQ20: 2.4 update`
`22:11.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`if so add it to cartographer2`
`22:12.37`	`ckknight`	`I did`
`22:12.43`	`ckknight`	`yesterday, I think`
`22:12.46`	`*** join/#wowace kilrogg (n=kilrogg@muedsl-82-207-235-240.citykom.de)`
`22:12.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`k`
`22:12.56`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: What is the table 'badTextures' for and how are they "bad"?`
`22:13.07`	`ckknight`	`Polarina: they're blank ocean and the like`
`22:13.23`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: They are bad? Why?`
`22:13.33`	`ckknight`	`I consider them unnecessary to show`
`22:13.40`	`Polarina`	`ckknight: I want them. :(`
`22:13.49`	`ckknight`	`why?`
`22:14.40`	`Dashkal`	`question: where exactly is GM island? And can a level 1 reach it by healing through fatigue?`
`22:14.53`	`Polarina`	`Dashkal: Out of mana...`
`22:14.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Dashkal uhm`
`22:14.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well`
`22:15.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`you CAN reach it`
`22:15.07`	`Kalroth`	`a level 1 priest doesn't run out of mana`
`22:15.09`	`Dashkal`	`I remember level 1s could get to IQD due to their insane regen`
`22:15.17`	`Kalroth`	`Yeah, I did that myself :)`
`22:15.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it's far out in the northwest of teldrassil`
`22:15.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but swimming to it would take about 6 hours`
`22:16.03`	`Dashkal`	`blink I didn't know the world map actually extended 6 hours of swimming worth`
`22:16.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it took me 1 1/2 hours on my epic mount with 20% paladin aura to run there`
`22:16.42`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: Have you tried to go there?`
`22:16.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i've been there`
`22:17.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i can even give you error messages by addons that you get when you go there!`
`22:17.06`	`Dashkal`	`I've seen it in the world viewer, but I was curious if it was actually reachable live short of a teleport hack`
`22:17.14`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yeah it is`
`22:17.25`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but not without... questionable methods`
`22:17.37`	`Dashkal`	`heh, I'd rather not get my ass banned getting there`
`22:17.44`	`[eu]gunder`	`define questionable methods!`
`22:17.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`uhm`
`22:17.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no.`
`22:18.00`	`[eu]gunder`	`^^ I thought so`
`22:18.27`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: Gimme!`
`22:18.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://loliserv.org/~afora/gmisland/WoWScrnShot_022408_213438.jpg <--me, dead in front of GM island`
`22:18.44`	`Dashkal`	`and I won't touch priv realms for fear of the client telling on me :S`
`22:18.46`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: Why did you die?`
`22:18.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`fatigue`
`22:18.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`so close`
`22:19.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`didn't pack a swimspeed pot`
`22:19.06`	`Polarina`	`:(`
`22:19.10`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'd have needed it at that point`
`22:19.32`	`*** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-157-126-16.owb.bellsouth.net)`
`22:19.38`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: Did you get a whisper from a GM?`
`22:19.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nope`
`22:19.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no ban eithe`
`22:19.47`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Antiarc MobSpells is teh win`
`22:19.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`*either`
`22:19.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:>`
`22:19.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but i don't recommend doing it`
`22:19.56`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: What gives?`
`22:20.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nobody reported me :D`
`22:20.14`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: What gives?`
`22:20.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`dunno`
`22:20.21`	Funkeh`	`sag_ich_nicht, how the hell did you get there`
`22:20.26`	`sag_ich_nicht`	Funkeh`: hax
`22:20.31`	`Dashkal`	`If the devs actually cared to keep people out of places like that you'd get insta-ported the moment you zoned in rather than having to have GMs smack you...`
`22:20.36`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: What hax?`
`22:20.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not tellin you :P`
`22:20.46`	`Cyn1`	`Mantle of the Malefic shoudl i do 6dmg/5haste or 12 dmg?`
`22:20.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`NOT a teleport hack anyway`
`22:20.57`	`Polarina`	`Dashkal: GMs like smacking players.`
`22:21.04`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: Speed hack. :)`
`22:21.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nope`
`22:21.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no speedhack either`
`22:21.30`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nothing modifying player position`
`22:21.31`	`Dashkal`	`GMs do, but I don't much care for GMs. I find them pretty useless, actually`
`22:21.37`	`Polarina`	`sag_ich_nicht: Coordinate hack (For directions)?`
`22:21.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`mhm? no`
`22:21.52`	`Dashkal`	`Unfortunately if I find a problem it's them or that bitter little gnome who lurks in the bug report forums...`
`22:22.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`sag_ich_nicht: you didnt use the zeplin/boat method did you?`
`22:22.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Arrowmaster: nope`
`22:22.22`	`Zhinjio`	`Elsia: Autohide on Combat??`
`22:22.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that one is fixed anyway`
`22:22.31`	`Zhinjio`	`does that mean the window hides during combat?`
`22:22.36`	`Dashkal`	`Arrowmaster: boat method? sounds like something I ran into... boat -> crash -> relog and I'm under mulgore ???`
`22:22.38`	`[eu]gunder`	`<sag_ich_nicht> it took me 1 1/2 hours on my epic mount with 20% paladin aura to run there <-- how did you use a mount on water? (hax?)`
`22:22.43`	`Dashkal`	`erm, not crash, d/c`
`22:22.44`	`Kurax`	`You need a patch to build a road for you to running there, only this is enough to get you banned`
`22:22.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`ya`
`22:22.53`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not telling you how i did that tho :P`
`22:24.23`	`*** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@60-241-56-168.tpgi.com.au)`
`22:24.25`	`NeoTron`	`Cyn1: 10 haste`
`22:24.46`	`Kurax`	`And for skipping mpq verifing, you need some tool to modify WoW's process memory which also illegal`
`22:24.48`	`[eu]gunder`	`Man highroller woks well, I just did a rempart and won every loot!`
`22:24.48`	`*** join/#wowace zapl (n=zapl@drms-590c939d.pool.einsundeins.de)`
`22:24.57`	`[eu]gunder`	`*works`
`22:25.11`	`Dashkal`	`mutters something about the rampant abuse of "illegal"`
`22:25.22`	`kergoth`	`heh, i was about to mention that`
`22:25.30`	`Polarina`	`[eu]gunder: High Roller is April's Fool.`
`22:25.47`	`NeoTron`	`Polarina: that's what they WANT you to think`
`22:25.48`	`[eu]gunder`	`I know ^^ it's just that I still have it`
`22:25.50`	`NeoTron`	`in reality it works well`
`22:25.51`	`Dashkal`	`I had to look at its source... so glad I did`
`22:26.06`	`[eu]gunder`	`I just fooled a few guildies into installing it today`
`22:26.08`	`NeoTron`	`rickrolling your way to phat lewtz ftw`
`22:26.10`	`Zhinjio`	`Arrowmaster: I told you something wrong earlier. I use the big red button for "B" (open all bags). I use hat-down for jump`
`22:26.12`	`Polarina`	`:)`
`22:26.21`	`Cyn1`	`neo`
`22:26.29`	`Cyn1`	`you in full t6`
`22:26.47`	`kergoth`	`so anyone try out the n52te controller yet?`
`22:27.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`no and not going to`
`22:27.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`since its not different from the n52 at all`
`22:27.17`	`hypetech`	`it's TE`
`22:27.20`	`hypetech`	`:p`
`22:27.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`been wanting to try saiteks one though`
`22:28.04`	`ckknight`	`Polarina: so any advice on Cart3?`
`22:28.07`	`Zhinjio`	`I bought one for a friend of mine for christmas`
`22:28.16`	`Zhinjio`	`(although it certainly didn't arrive at christmas)`
`22:28.17`	`NeoTron`	`Cyn1: no >:-)`
`22:28.37`	`NeoTron`	`I know it might vary but the spreadsheet tells me 10 haste > 12 dmg`
`22:28.38`	`Zhinjio`	`Arrowmaster: its backlit with blue leds!`
`22:28.40`	`Zhinjio`	`grins.`
`22:28.41`	`*** join/#wowace Cryect (i=Cryect@c-71-236-21-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)`
`22:28.45`	`NeoTron`	`and by extension 10 haste > 5 haste/6dmg`
`22:28.51`	`Dashkal`	`there it is`
`22:28.53`	`NeoTron`	`hybrid gems are ONLY better if you need the color`
`22:29.01`	`Zhinjio`	`apparently the timing of signals is also like 100 times faster or something too, but I don't know exact specs on that`
`22:29.08`	`NeoTron`	`for epic gems`
`22:29.13`	`NeoTron`	`in rare gems some are uneven`
`22:29.13`	`Dashkal`	`found the bug in GridStatusFrames... now if only I could commit to fix it... sigh later later...`
`22:29.15`	`Cyn1`	`my spredsheet must be fucked`
`22:29.18`	`Dashkal`	`erm, GridStatusParty`
`22:29.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`how the fuck can it be faster?`
`22:29.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`does that mean the original is slow?`
`22:29.26`	`Cyn1`	`casue when i put in haste only gems i lose dps`
`22:29.28`	`NeoTron`	`it depends on your stats of course`
`22:29.33`	`Zhinjio`	`hell if I know.`
`22:29.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`i saw the price tag and laughed`
`22:29.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`its a total ripoff`
`22:30.30`	`Cyn1`	`when i replace my 6dmg/5haste gems wiht 10 haste i loose liek 30 dps`
`22:30.34`	`Cyn1`	`i am hit capped`
`22:31.01`	`NeoTron`	`what value does it give your gems?`
`22:31.04`	`NeoTron`	`or rather`
`22:31.06`	`NeoTron`	`the stat`
`22:31.34`	`Cyn1`	`10 haste`
`22:31.45`	`Cyn1`	`is that what you mean?`
`22:31.54`	`Cryect`	`+12 Dmg Gems are better for you seems to be what you are saying most likely`
`22:31.54`	`NeoTron`	`I mean 1 dmg = X haste type table?`
`22:32.02`	`NeoTron`	`assuming that's the spreadsheet you're using`
`22:32.15`	`Cyn1`	`1dmg = 1.31`
`22:32.19`	`Cyn1`	`err`
`22:32.25`	`Cyn1`	`1 haste = 1.31 dmg`
`22:32.48`	`Cyn1`	`but if that is true why does my dps goe down`
`22:33.03`	`Nechckn`	`Hiya Cairenn`
`22:33.16`	`Cryect`	`One of the assumptions in the spreadsheet you are using is wrong most likely`
`22:33.18`	`NeoTron`	`err`
`22:33.29`	`NeoTron`	`I get dmg = 1, haste = 1.29`
`22:33.37`	`NeoTron`	`are you affliction or something?`
`22:33.41`	`Cyn1`	`destro`
`22:33.51`	`Cyn1`	`cynics frostwolf`
`22:34.16`	`NeoTron`	`wait`
`22:34.18`	`Josh_Borke`	`sag_ich_nicht: 90 minutes is a long as time to run some place`
`22:34.19`	`Cyn1`	`http://armorylite.com/us/Frostwolf/cynics`
`22:34.24`	`NeoTron`	`1 haste = 1.31 dmg is what I see`
`22:34.26`	`NeoTron`	`similar`
`22:34.32`	`Cyn1`	`yea`
`22:34.40`	`NeoTron`	`means 10 haste = 13.1 dmg`
`22:34.44`	`NeoTron`	`which is > 12 dmg`
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`22:34.56`	`Cyn1`	`but as i switch out my gems i lose dps`
`22:35.06`	`CIA-39`	`03funkydude * r68824 10StatBlocks_Quests/ (. loc/koKR.lua): StatBlocks_Quests: locale fix`
`22:35.08`	`NeoTron`	`from the spreadsheet?`
`22:35.11`	`Cyn1`	`yea`
`22:35.21`	`Cyn1`	`is their soemthign im missing`
`22:35.30`	`NeoTron`	`I dunno. I just swapped all my gems for haste`
`22:35.58`	`Cyn1`	`0/21/40 shadow is your spec?`
`22:36.10`	`NeoTron`	`yes`
`22:36.18`	`NeoTron`	`it's not optimal`
`22:36.23`	`NeoTron`	`since I'm specced for tanking but alas`
`22:36.27`	`Cyn1`	`same`
`22:36.35`	`Cyn1`	`do me a favor`
`22:36.42`	`Dashkal`	`curiosity: does spell haste reduce the GCD of melee types?`
`22:36.45`	`Cyn1`	`in your sheet put in haste/dmg gems`
`22:36.47`	`kergoth`	`Zhinjio: what about comfort level? i know hte n52 was pretty uncomfortable for me, plus the stroke of the keys was massive, like an old ibm model M.. pictures of the new one make it look more like laptop keys`
`22:36.53`	`Cyn1`	`dash no`
`22:36.58`	`Cyn1`	`err`
`22:37.03`	`Cyn1`	`yes but not atk speed`
`22:37.24`	`Cyn1`	`it says that in the patch notes for 2.4`
`22:37.26`	`Dashkal`	`heh, not that I'd stack spell haste to do it, but that sounded amusing`
`22:37.33`	`CIA-39`	`03orionshock 07orionshock * r68825 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/ (Locale-enUS.lua core.lua):`
`22:37.33`	`CIA-39`	`Hourglass2:`
`22:37.33`	`CIA-39`	`-add priests to CD group, touch up file formatting`
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`22:37.51`	`Dashkal`	`actually, that might be a bizarro-way to increase threat as a druid tank`
`22:38.05`	`NeoTron`	`I don't do metric per-item like that.`
`22:38.25`	`Nandini`	`only if you are using lacerate/swipe every gcd while mangle's cd is not up`
`22:38.33`	`Dashkal`	`that would be how I tank`
`22:38.42`	`Nandini`	`me too`
`22:38.46`	`Dashkal`	`(pre t6) lacerate every gcd and refresh mangle every time its up`
`22:39.24`	`Dashkal`	`practically speaking I'd just stack more AP/Crit/Expertise to get my threat up, but stacking spell haste to do it amuses me for some reason`
`22:39.52`	`Nandini`	`it actually would be good to unalign the 1.5sec gcd from mangle's 6sec cd, so you could get one more lacerate or swipe in between`
`22:40.00`	`NeoTron`	`all I know is that I am competetive with other warlocks despite being the only one without 4xt6`
`22:40.06`	`Nandini`	`i'm not sure it could be reduced that much tho`
`22:40.25`	`Dashkal`	`Is it worth waiting on mangle when it's cooldown is less than the current GCD?`
`22:40.43`	`Nandini`	`what else are you going to do while you're waiting?`
`22:40.48`	`Dashkal`	`lacerate`
`22:41.13`	`Nandini`	`oh you mean if the gcd is up and mangle has less than 1.5 seconds left`
`22:41.14`	`Dashkal`	`thinking of the edge case where mangle is 1s left.`
`22:41.21`	`Dashkal`	`sorry, yeah, phrased it wrong`
`22:41.49`	`Dashkal`	`For simplicity I don't tend to wait at all. I just spam lacerate and mangle if it's avail`
`22:42.28`	`rubik`	`hmm.. so before i start writing one from scratch, anyone got any (2.4) combatlog parser? preferably in perl or python?`
`22:42.39`	`rubik`	`parser code, i meant`
`22:42.48`	`Nandini`	`yeah there's always enough latency (or just lateness on my part) to keep the gcd and mangle cd uneven`
`22:42.49`	`Julith`	`antiarc: I get two an error when deleting a spell and another error when deleting a mob (but mob and spel are deleted)`
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`22:43.02`	`Dashkal`	`exactly, so I often have 1s left on mangle when I hit a lacerate`
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`22:43.37`	`Dashkal`	`I dunno exact numbers, though. I don't have an exact CD timer.`
`22:43.58`	`Dashkal`	`but if I can let the DPS open up that smidge more, it could be a good thing`
`22:44.10`	`CIA-39`	`03archarodim * r68826 10Decursive/ (15 files):`
`22:44.10`	`CIA-39`	`Decursive:`
`22:44.10`	`CIA-39`	`- NEW chronometer on the MUFs: When a unit is debuffed the number of seconds elapsed is displayed on its MUF (option enabled by default)`
`22:44.10`	`CIA-39`	`- More code speed optimizations (proxy variables and function calls at critical places)`
`22:44.10`	`CIA-39`	`- Maybe a fix for the rare MF_colors nil bug a couple of users experienced.`
`22:46.09`	`rubik`	`nobody? offline combatlog parser code? saw the java code that the guy at EJ wrote but that's about it`
`22:46.20`	`Dashkal`	`Has anybody done any testing to see if the lacerate change "fixes" the swipe > lacerate after t6 issue?`
`22:47.02`	`Dashkal`	`rubik: Couldn't you do the initial parse with a single (precompiled) regex?`
`22:47.46`	`rubik`	`sort of.. but # of values in csv list depends on 1st (event type) value`
`22:48.00`	`Dashkal`	`ahh, forgot about that. that makes it messy`
`22:48.02`	`rubik`	`so have to have one huge case type block of code`
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`22:48.42`	`rubik`	`but that's ok because you probably want to parse line-by-line and keep different arrays for damage vs. dealing and participants (players vs. npc)`
`22:48.43`	`Dashkal`	`I never did figure out how to work with regex groups of the form ((\w)+ ), (\w)`
`22:48.50`	`charon`	`was too lazy to rewrite his parser so far`
`22:49.06`	`rubik`	`vs. healing* rather`
`22:49.15`	`charon`	`why use regexes at all? once you've split off the date you can just split at every ',' and switch depending on the first element`
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`22:49.40`	`rubik`	`yeah, that's the best way`
`22:49.48`	`Dashkal`	`or that if you want to be sensible about it`
`22:50.21`	`charon`	`please, don't ask me to do it, i should get some work done tomorrow ;p`
`22:50.33`	`rubik`	`haha.. <-- at work now`
`22:50.47`	`rubik`	`it's where i get most of my uhh.. non-work done too`
`22:50.53`	`Dashkal`	`heh, same. And it's bugging me cause I can't fix the bug I found in my code from here...`
`22:51.15`	`rubik`	`charon: what language would you theoretically possibly maybe write this parser in? :P`
`22:51.29`	`charon`	`though i do wonder if i can do better than two omen patches in one "work" day`
`22:52.10`	`charon`	`python. i already have a fair bit of parsing and analysis code for pre-2.4 logs so i'd obviously just plug in a new parser`
`22:52.45`	`rubik`	`nice.. i was going to try perl (semi-noob at it) only because i'm SUPER-noob at python`
`22:53.03`	`Dashkal`	`wtb python without crazy intending rules...`
`22:53.06`	`rubik`	`and at least i know enough perl to get started and figure it out as i go along`
`22:53.07`	`charon`	`there's just no turning back after learning python, you've been warned`
`22:53.14`	`Dashkal`	`stop intending to end code block... do not want`
`22:53.14`	`Antiarc`	`" IMO Omen along with any other WoW mods should only put updates on tuesday during maintenance unless the bug is a critical error. This prevents issues from incompatible versions and gives all the wow junkies something to do during maintenance other than the standard "QQ my realm not up yet QQ"."`
`22:53.16`	`sdouble`	`I love the indenting in python`
`22:53.22`	`Antiarc`	`^---- I will do this if every Omen user pays me $15/month`
`22:53.29`	`sdouble`	`then you're forced to have code that follows the standards`
`22:53.29`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
`22:53.35`	`sdouble`	`but what I don't like is "self"`
`22:53.47`	`sdouble`	`anything that makes you type "self" angers me`
`22:53.49`	`Dashkal`	`sdouble: every now and then a one-liner is much cleaner than proper indentation`
`22:53.58`	`CIA-39`	`03archarodim * r68827 10Decursive/Dcr_DebuffsFrame.xml:`
`22:53.58`	`CIA-39`	`Decursive:`
`22:53.58`	`CIA-39`	`- Adjusted chronometers position (they were a little off-centered)`
`22:54.16`	`rubik`	`charon: yeah.. i've been reading about python (vs. perl) all day.. sounds neat. heh`
`22:54.18`	`Dashkal`	`if (escapeCond) return end`
`22:54.39`	`charon`	`Antiarc: you should threaten to actually do it --- and leave bugs unfixed for a week! --- if users _don't_ pay you $15...`
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`22:55.14`	`charon`	`Dashkal: you can write 'if blah: return' all the same`
`22:55.30`	`Dashkal`	`that's legal? fair enough then. statement retracted`
`22:55.34`	`CIA-39`	`03jjsheets * r68828 10ButtonFacade/ (18 files in 7 dirs):`
`22:55.34`	`CIA-39`	`ButtonFacade:`
`22:55.34`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:55.58`	`Dashkal`	`But I still like my clear end of block tokens: }, end, ), whatever`
`22:56.46`	`Dashkal`	`trying to visually size up indentation when trying to understand code involving nested blocks is not fun`
`22:57.11`	`Dashkal`	`been tempted to take a ruler to the screen more than once...`
`22:57.51`	`Dashkal`	`(for the same reason I hate the java standard of open brace on same line as control statement... stick it next line for easy sighting of the extent of a block)`
`22:57.52`	`rubik`	`can use one of them fancy IDE tools and have them draw the vertical dotted lines i guess?`
`22:58.03`	`kergoth`	`JJSheets: whats that?`
`22:58.17`	`Dashkal`	`rubik: Yes, and I do, but that doesn't always work when just browsing code (I often only have a text editor or shudder the browser for that)`
`22:58.19`	`JJSheets`	`kergoth, My replacement for cyCircled.`
`22:58.26`	`Dashkal`	`or even better: code with nonstandard tab sizes`
`22:58.30`	`[eu]gunder`	`oooh nice`
`22:58.32`	`Nechckn`	`notepad ++`
`22:58.45`	`Nechckn`	`works great for what you are talking about`
`22:58.45`	`Dashkal`	`Nechckn: wtb native notepad++ on *nix`
`22:59.01`	`kergoth`	`ah, interesting`
`22:59.15`	`Nechckn`	`ah.. ok... no *nix mentioned =)`
`22:59.18`	`Dashkal`	`I use notepad++ on windows, and I'd really love to use the same tool on both (I'm fully aware that there are many very good code editors for nix, but I want the same damnit)`
`22:59.46`	`Nechckn`	`I'd second that, since vi hurts my brain`
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`23:00.03`	`rubik`	`insert vim vs. emacs debate here`
`23:00.11`	`Dashkal`	`nano > both of those`
`23:00.13`	`CIA-39`	`03jjsheets * r68829 10ButtonFacade/ (. ButtonFacade.toc Libs/):`
`23:00.13`	`CIA-39`	`ButtonFacade:`
`23:00.13`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:00.14`	`Dashkal`	`cackle`
`23:00.18`	`hypetech`	`notepad++ worked great for me on windows until wow logs started going over 100 MB...after 100MB notepad++ starts acting very strange`
`23:00.18`	`rubik`	`:P`
`23:00.21`	`Nechckn`	`Once I start working it always takes a few minutes to get warmed up to it =)`
`23:00.38`	`Dashkal`	`actually if I could figure out how to get syntax hilighting in nano I'd be in heaven`
`23:00.50`	`rubik`	`i use ultraedit on win32 but yeah, not free.. well, not legally`
`23:01.02`	`Dashkal`	`for non-free, EditPlus is pretty good as well`
`23:01.16`	`Dashkal`	`(or at least was when I last used it a couple years back)`
`23:01.37`	`JJSheets`	`ScITe`
`23:01.48`	`NeoTron`	`So I had 2591 DPS on Brutallus in one attempt... which lead to Brutallus's Swing hits Aminai for 16886 Physical damage. >:-)`
`23:01.52`	`Dashkal`	`I don't like ScITe. Forced editing of text files to configure is lose`
`23:02.16`	`JJSheets`	`it's a one time only thing. but, to each their own. I love it.`
`23:02.22`	`Dashkal`	`Actually, I think NotePad++ uses Scintilla (the component behind scite)`
`23:02.47`	`Dashkal`	`it just has a much better shell than vanilla scite (imo only here, no toe stepping intended)`
`23:03.19`	`kergoth`	`JJSheets: configregister and configdialog are included in config`
`23:03.25`	`kergoth`	`JJSheets: need to ifx the externals & embeds.xml`
`23:03.33`	`JJSheets`	`really? cool.`
`23:03.34`	`kergoth`	`registry, even`
`23:03.52`	`Fix[EJ]`	`NeoTron: what class? :P`
`23:04.06`	`NeoTron`	`warlock`
`23:04.17`	`kergoth`	`okay, i have to ask. what does hiding blizzard art have to do with button skinning? :P`
`23:05.02`	`JJSheets`	`nothing. it's there because I needed to figure out exactly how to do a module, and I didn't want to work on a full feature module for it yet. :p`
`23:05.22`	`kergoth`	`ahh, cool`
`23:05.24`	`Dashkal`	`Given that NotePad++ does run under wine... I wonder if I can compile it "native" against winelib`
`23:05.28`	`JJSheets`	`It also needs work once the module(s) for taking over blizzard buttons gets programmed. :)`
`23:05.31`	`Dashkal`	`eh, probably more hassle than it's worth`
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`23:05.42`	`Dashkal`	`gedit is "good enough"`
`23:07.18`	`JJSheets`	`kergoth, how about AceDBOptions? is that included in AceDB too?`
`23:07.34`	`kergoth`	`nope, thats a seperate lib, since not everyone that uses acedb wnats to use aceconifg`
`23:07.47`	`JJSheets`	`thanks`
`23:08.12`	`Orionshock`	`gota love how obsessively modular Ace3 is eh?`
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`23:08.18`	`kergoth`	`?`
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`23:08.25`	`kergoth`	`you'd rather it wasl ike ace2, where every lib depended on hafl the others?`
`23:08.27`	`kergoth`	`no thanks`
`23:08.32`	`kergoth`	`i'll stick to libs that you can use alone`
`23:08.49`	`Dashkal`	`The price of that, however, is that ace3 isn't very cohesive`
`23:08.51`	`Orionshock`	`just ace3 core`
`23:09.00`	`Dashkal`	`it doesn't really have a core`
`23:09.07`	`JJSheets`	`took about an hour figuring out that he needed to register his DB in the OnInitialize function instead of at the top level block...`
`23:09.14`	`kergoth`	`it doesnt have a core, Orionshock`
`23:09.18`	`kergoth`	`you can use acedb without aceaddon`
`23:09.31`	`kergoth`	`they just need libstub, and callbackhandler if and only if that lib has callbacks`
`23:09.37`	`Orionshock`	`"The Core Libs" ie: trunk/Ace3`
`23:09.51`	`kergoth`	`what are you smoking?`
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`23:10.01`	`Orionshock`	`many things`
`23:10.05`	`kergoth`	`clearly`
`23:10.22`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:10.33`	`JJSheets`	`puff puff pass`
`23:10.57`	`Orionshock`	`it's semantics really, "Ace3-Core" just the ace3 dir on the svn, where as everything else is described as "Agnostic" ... something like that...`
`23:11.35`	`Orionshock`	`puff puff ::passes to JJSheets::`
`23:11.55`	`Dashkal`	`Ace3 on the svn is just a package with a TOC that loads all the libs now, isn't it?`
`23:12.04`	`Orionshock`	`yep`
`23:12.07`	`JJSheets`	`throws it in the toilet, flushes it, shouts at Orionshock about the dangers of drugs. bwhaahahahaha`
`23:12.38`	`Yssaril`	`Dashkal, though having it standalone gives yout the /ace3 command to open the ace3 config :P`
`23:12.44`	`Orionshock`	`bastard that was 10$`
`23:12.47`	`CIA-39`	`03durcyn * r68830 10Antagonist/Data/Blacklist.lua: Antagonist: add Rampage's binary component to the blacklist`
`23:12.48`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:12.51`	`Orionshock`	`u owe me`
`23:12.53`	`Dashkal`	`I like the /ace3 :p`
`23:13.04`	`Dashkal`	`ten bucks? you're clearly in the wrong part of the world :p`
`23:13.17`	`Dashkal`	`mmm living in Metro Vancouver`
`23:13.33`	`CIA-39`	`03aznamir * r68831 10PallyPower/ (. PallyPowerValues.lua embeds.xml):`
`23:13.33`	`CIA-39`	`PallyPower:`
`23:13.33`	`CIA-39`	`- Removed Babble-Spell reference, using GetSpellInfo function to get localized spell names. Tested on English client.`
`23:14.17`	`JJSheets`	`Orionshock, I pay you back by creating cool addons. :p`
`23:14.44`	`Orionshock`	`oh? rewrite chronometer and hourglass to be better :D`
`23:14.58`	`JJSheets`	`Not my addons. :p`
`23:14.59`	`NeoTron`	`Can you make a libstub lib that depends on AceComm-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0?`
`23:15.12`	`Orionshock`	`NeoTron yes`
`23:15.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtb xbox360 controller with autofire`
`23:15.27`	`NeoTron`	`I'll probably redo my MagicComm into a library`
`23:15.27`	`vithos`	`Gnarfoz: thanks for getting me to finally try JWU. WAU+WUU->shitheap`
`23:15.36`	`Orionshock`	`those sort of Dependants are to be expected.`
`23:16.00`	`Camci`	`is there an addon that warns you if someone is casting mana burn on you or some other spells? without targetting the target tho`
`23:16.03`	`durcyn`	updaters schmupdaters, `svn --ignore-externals up *' is the way to go =P
`23:16.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive the controller on the floor and spaming the left trigger with my toe to keep activating this unlimited powerup in this arcade game that lets me not have to even play the game`
`23:16.24`	`durcyn`	`Camci: it's not possible to get target information from generic cast data, so no.`
`23:16.50`	`Camci`	`durcyn: I see, thanks anyway :)`
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`23:17.41`	`durcyn`	`things like WitchHunt or Antagonist will show you cast bars, but unless you or raid/party are targetting it, you can't know where it's directed`
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`23:19.38`	`luxus`	`vithos: it is JWU better then WUU?`
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`23:20.21`	`vithos`	`it seems to only support wowace, wowinterface, curse, and wowui`
`23:20.24`	`vithos`	`but yes`
`23:20.31`	`durcyn`	`'only'`
`23:20.48`	`luxus`	`svn and git support would be great :D`
`23:20.57`	`[eu]gunder`	`luxus: JWU works fine for me and WAU has the nasty habit of crashing while updating`
`23:20.58`	`Dashkal`	`hmm, should post a suggestion that he allow custom sites. provide a link to the addon and a link that returns the "Version"`
`23:21.12`	`vithos`	`well, i had some custom updates set up in WUU like for auctioneer from zips`
`23:21.20`	`Dashkal`	`prolly have to be two xpath expressions, though, so it would be pretty advanced to support that`
`23:21.48`	`vithos`	`WUU didn't support XPath, just regex`
`23:21.56`	`luxus`	`gunder i am on mac... last time i use wau was a half year ago i think`
`23:22.01`	`Dashkal`	`regex on html? ewww`
`23:22.09`	`vithos`	`yeah it was ugly, but worked`
`23:22.20`	`Dashkal`	`mind you xpath on html isn't all _that_ much betteer`
`23:22.29`	`Dashkal`	`you have to "guess" at the dom for bad web pages`
`23:22.44`	`vithos`	`on good pages it can be good though`
`23:22.45`	`luxus`	`i don't have any problems with WUU i think`
`23:22.52`	`luxus`	`all my addons gets updated :D`
`23:23.02`	`Orionshock`	`WAU support svn update, when setup properly....`
`23:23.04`	`[eu]gunder`	`^^`
`23:23.05`	`vithos`	`i didn't like using WUU for wowace`
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`23:23.18`	`vithos`	`since it lacked dependencies support`
`23:23.24`	`luxus`	`only with the auctioneer addon it does some strange things`
`23:23.35`	`Orionshock`	`vithos: what i did is set all the wow acestuff to ignore and just used WAU for it`
`23:23.39`	`luxus`	`vithos: it does support dependencies now`
`23:23.48`	`vithos`	`Orionshock: yeah that's what i was doing until today`
`23:24.03`	`[eu]gunder`	`haha I can't believe there are suckers who sell netherwave stack for less than 3g ^^`
`23:24.06`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68832 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua:`
`23:24.06`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`23:24.06`	`CIA-39`	`- BS: Bronze Mace Fix`
`23:24.13`	`vithos`	`oh, well (haven't verified) but someone told me JWU also remembers that dependencies were autoinstalled and removes them when they aren't needed anymore`
`23:24.13`	`[eu]gunder`	`easy money = on`
`23:24.16`	`Orionshock`	`i don't use many things from curse or non-wowace hosted stuff`
`23:24.22`	`vithos`	`which is what really got me to try it`
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`23:24.46`	`vithos`	`but also, JWU's ui isn't laggy like WAU or inconsistent like WUU`
`23:24.54`	`luxus`	`the good thing in wuu i can see what addons need that addon i mark`
`23:25.01`	`Ackis`	`is grumpy, anyone want to let me yell at them?`
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`23:25.45`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68833 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua:`
`23:25.45`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`23:25.45`	`CIA-39`	`- BS: Thorium Spike fixed`
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`23:26.21`	`Dashkal`	`I'd love for JWU to integrate svnkit so it can nab svn directly :p`
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`23:30.13`	`Dashkal`	`I wonder how difficult it would be to make a dependancy graph for wowace`
`23:30.13`	`Chaud`	`graph?`
`23:30.13`	`Kaaosa`	`Graph!`
`23:30.13`	`Dashkal`	`in memory, anyway. render it as a tree`
`23:30.13`	`charon`	`then run your favourite algorithm to see if it has cycles.`
`23:30.13`	`luxus`	`does have simple chat mods any settings options?`
`23:30.18`	`Cryect`	`it would be a boring graph`
`23:30.22`	`Dashkal`	`It's actually a graph since it can contain cycles`
`23:30.33`	`Ackis`	`any mods out there that fix the chat windows remembering settings stuff?`
`23:30.38`	`Cryect`	`things that depend on each other should be the same thing`
`23:30.52`	`Cryect`	`you shouldn't haven't cycles in dependencies`
`23:31.01`	`Dashkal`	`No, you shouldn't, but they're possible`
`23:31.06`	`Fix[EJ]`	`Ackis: I believe Tekkub has one, one second`
`23:31.10`	`Dashkal`	`such a tool could help identify those cases`
`23:31.27`	`Fix[EJ]`	`Ackis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html`
`23:31.28`	`Cryect`	`Well you don't need to render it :-p`
`23:31.45`	`Camci`	`is it possible to show the target of the one i have on focus?`
`23:31.49`	`Dashkal`	`but with embedded libs it would be a very difficult problem to reliably build the graph`
`23:31.50`	`Cryect`	`sure`
`23:31.56`	`Camci`	`.O`
`23:32.11`	`CIA-39`	`03linsu * r68834 10RaidBuffStatus/ (Locale-zhTW.lua RaidBuffStatus.toc):`
`23:32.11`	`CIA-39`	`RaidBuffStatus:`
`23:32.11`	`CIA-39`	`- update zhTW`
`23:32.23`	`Cryect`	`well any addon should properly use externals then its not an issue`
`23:32.23`	`Dashkal`	`Cryect: You'd render it so you could find the answer to questions like: What libs does this mod use? Or better: What mods use this lib?`
`23:32.39`	`Cryect`	`So why render it?`
`23:32.41`	`Dashkal`	`Heh, if every addon followed the rules it would be easy`
`23:32.49`	`Dashkal`	`why not? the data is there`
`23:32.53`	`Chaud`	`okay, so I had ctmail open a few mails, it said I recieved a bunch of items, and my bags are empty, the mail is gone =\`
`23:32.58`	`Chaud`	`where did the items go`
`23:33.01`	`Cryect`	`Those questions aren't aided by rendered graphs`
`23:33.24`	`Cryect`	`You should only show graphs if the flow mattered and it doesn't really`
`23:33.32`	`Dashkal`	`Possible rendering for my second question: A tree with the roots being everything at the bottom of the dependancy (everything that depends on nothing)`
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`23:33.47`	`Cryect`	`You mean the leaves`
`23:33.53`	`Dashkal`	`roots`
`23:34.00`	`Dashkal`	`second question was "what mods depend on lib X"`
`23:34.02`	`CIA-39`	`03phanx * r68835 10Automaton/Automaton.toc: Automaton: Fixed X-Embeds typo in .toc.`
`23:34.04`	`Cryect`	`um leaves`
`23:34.09`	`Cryect`	`there is a single root per tree`
`23:34.21`	`Dashkal`	`roots in this context mean the children of the invisible root`
`23:34.24`	`luxus`	`i need a updater that delete all the libs that i have in the libs folder from wowinterface addons :D`
`23:34.44`	`CIA-39`	`03jjsheets * r68836 10ButtonFacade/ (9 files in 4 dirs):`
`23:34.44`	`CIA-39`	`ButtonFacade:`
`23:34.44`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:34.44`	`CIA-39`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:34.53`	`Dashkal`	`given the intent of the tree, they are all roots that happen to live side by side in the tree widget used to render the graph`
`23:34.56`	`Chaud`	`items didn't go back to my main either =\`
`23:34.59`	`Cryect`	`the root depend on everything below them...`
`23:35.12`	`Cryect`	`the leaves are the only things with no dependencies`
`23:35.44`	`Dashkal`	`Cryect: There are two distinct ways to render the dependancy graph. WIth the roots being the things depended on, or with the roots being the things doing the depending.`
`23:35.46`	`Cryect`	`your normal addons would be the roots normally`
`23:35.57`	`Antiarc`	`Hey guys`
`23:35.57`	`Zhinjio`	`hmm.`
`23:36.03`	`Antiarc`	`I'm irresponsible for committing my codeto SVN`
`23:36.05`	`Zhinjio`	`recount settings aren't saved between toons sigh`
`23:36.08`	`Antiarc`	`Just FYI :V`
`23:36.09`	`Cryect`	`Oh you want to show what addons use a lib?`
`23:36.13`	`Dashkal`	`yes`
`23:36.21`	`Esine`	`hey, for some reason when I do self:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED") and I have function MyAddon:VARIABLES_LOADED(){self:Print("hi")} it's not working`
`23:36.24`	`hypetech`	`Zhinjio: so copy the profile?`
`23:36.28`	`Dashkal`	`so I can answer the question: Why is LibSpell still in my addons folder?`
`23:36.36`	`Cryect`	`still confused why you want to render this instead of look at in a list`
`23:36.42`	`Esine`	`.. is there some ACE specific stuff here so that it doesn't work or am I doing something wrong? ACE3 btwv`
`23:36.44`	`Zhinjio`	`hypetech: copy the file? there is no profile.`
`23:36.49`	`Cryect`	`WAU doesn't delete libs if they are no longer needed`
`23:36.58`	`Dashkal`	`you could expand the node "LibSpell" and as children you would see every addon that peended on it`
`23:37.05`	`Dashkal`	`s/peended/depended/`
`23:37.29`	`hypetech`	`Zhinjio: /recount profile >.>`
`23:37.47`	`CIA-39`	`03grennon * r68837 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua:`
`23:37.47`	`CIA-39`	`AutoTurnin:`
`23:37.47`	`CIA-39`	`Added Sunwell Anvil Quests (dont stop now, atamal arms)`
`23:38.00`	`Zhinjio`	`ah, just no gui for that piece. ok`
`23:38.06`	`Esine`	`which event is fired first OnEnable() or VARIABLES_LOADED?`
`23:38.13`	`charon`	`~time`
`23:38.13`	`purl`	`i guess time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.04.09 23:38:13 GMT`
`23:38.27`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:38.34`	`Dashkal`	`anyway, this is going way off tangent. It's just an example to explain why it would be valuable to calculate the entire dependency graph: So you could ask questions like that and get a simple answer.`
`23:38.52`	`Cryect`	`the graph doesn't need to be rendered though :-p`
`23:38.53`	`charon`	`JJSheets: do you a better way to find out purl's chosen timezone? :P`
`23:38.58`	`charon`	`s/you/you know/`
`23:38.59`	`Cryect`	`I knew why it would be useful to have the data`
`23:39.06`	`Dashkal`	`_that_ would depend on the user :p`
`23:39.09`	`JJSheets`	`nope.`
`23:39.10`	`Dashkal`	`I like pretty renderings :p`
`23:39.26`	`Dashkal`	`lemme drill down with the click of a +`
`23:39.28`	`Cryect`	`I like graphs but data that should be given to me as a list I don't want as a graph`
`23:39.31`	`Cryect`	`haha`
`23:39.36`	`Dashkal`	`It isn't a list to me, it's a tree`
`23:39.47`	`Cryect`	`the end data you want is a list though`
`23:39.50`	`Dashkal`	`especiall for the case where AddonA depends on LibB depends on LibC`
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`23:40.03`	`Dashkal`	`not always`
`23:40.14`	`charon`	`btw you might want to s/tree/DAG/`
`23:40.15`	`Dashkal`	`because the answer to why LibC is on my system is actually AddonA, not LibB`
`23:40.17`	`bTal`	`First time here. If I'd like to do a button addon (yes, I've read lots of "hello world" stuff), but make it just the way I want it. What is the "simplest" button addon that anyone knows for me to read and deconstruct to learn about how to make them work? Thanks!`
`23:40.24`	`Dashkal`	`DAG?`
`23:40.34`	`charon`	`directed acyclic graph`
`23:40.35`	`Cryect`	`yes hence you want a list`
`23:40.39`	`Dashkal`	`ahh`
`23:40.51`	`Cryect`	`the list being all nodes children of the root`
`23:41.11`	`Zhinjio`	`ok, no... this isn't working.`
`23:41.12`	`Dashkal`	`eh, don't hide the AddonA needs LibB relationship when you show the results`
`23:41.18`	`Zhinjio`	`maybe I'm missing some ace3 lib thats needed?`
`23:41.20`	`Dashkal`	`that's still useful`
`23:41.20`	`JJSheets`	`bTal, There really isn't any such addon. Action buttons are not easy to understand.`
`23:41.28`	`CIA-39`	`037destiny * r68838 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`23:41.28`	`CIA-39`	`Babble-2.2:`
`23:41.28`	`CIA-39`	`- koKR Update`
`23:41.45`	`Zhinjio`	`doing /recount profile just lists options that don't work`
`23:41.58`	`Zhinjio`	`unless I'm just being daft (entirely possible)`
`23:42.00`	`Cryect`	`Dashkal, what is the end user going to do with the knowledge the reason libC is needed because of libB and not just knowing that addonA needs libB and LibC`
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`23:42.20`	`Dashkal`	`that depends on why the user wants to know`
`23:42.24`	`Zhinjio`	`ah`
`23:42.25`	`Cryect`	`heh`
`23:42.57`	`Dashkal`	`if the user is on a crusade to destroy LibC, the fact that LibB is depending is more important. If the user just wants to know what addon requires LibC, AddonA is more important.`
`23:43.25`	`luxus`	`can somebody fix ag_unitframes (ace3) that the party targets get hidden when the partyframes are hidden in raid?`
`23:44.02`	`luxus`	`and merge the libmobhealth 4 support from break19 too please :D`
`23:46.53`	`bTal`	`thanks JJ, I suck at IRC, so can't type back. :(`
`23:47.00`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
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`23:48.40`	`bTal`	`so no other one button addons out there to study? Hmmm...`
`23:48.48`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68839 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua:`
`23:48.48`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`23:48.48`	`CIA-39`	`- JC update and some conversion to SpellID`
`23:49.17`	`bTal`	`love ACE and I want to stay with that library.`
`23:49.41`	`kergoth`	`bTal: what exactly are you trying to do?`
`23:50.02`	`ckknight`	`bTal: it's Ace`
`23:50.07`	`ckknight`	`bTal: and which library are you referring to?`
`23:50.12`	`haste`	`no, it's SPADE`
`23:50.39`	`Dashkal`	`I thought it was club?`
`23:50.40`	`JJSheets`	`bTal, you can study my InfiniBar-2.0, but it's very complex.`
`23:50.41`	`bTal`	`all the ACE stuff. Downloader and addons made with.`
`23:50.54`	`Dashkal`	`ducks`
`23:50.57`	`Fix[EJ]`	`oh no`
`23:51.07`	`JJSheets`	`sighs.`
`23:51.18`	`ckknight`	`bTal: it's Ace, and Ace isn't Jesus. Hate to break it to you.`
`23:51.27`	`JJSheets`	`ACE = Accidental Capslock Error`
`23:51.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hey`
`23:51.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`bTal`
`23:51.30`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`HI`
`23:51.44`	`Dashkal`	`bTal: Ace2? Ace3? Rock? WAU? JWU? The community? You're lumping quite a few things together here.`
`23:51.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Make_it_Ace%27d go read that`
`23:51.52`	`Dashkal`	`^^^^^`
`23:51.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Dashkal shut up`
`23:51.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`he thinks it's magicsauce`
`23:52.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`so he needs to read that`
`23:52.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`before i kill him`
`23:52.06`	`Gagorian-`	`Antiarc: ping`
`23:52.15`	`ckknight`	`touching myself at night makes magicsauce`
`23:52.21`	`Ellipsis`	`^truth`
`23:52.21`	`JJSheets`	`lmao`
`23:52.40`	`JJSheets`	`what happens during the daytime? O.o`
`23:52.54`	`ckknight`	`far less magical.`
`23:52.57`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:53.03`	`chiper`	`haha`
`23:53.03`	`Ellipsis`	`but far more fun`
`23:53.04`	`Ellipsis`	`imo`
`23:53.11`	`Kaaosa`	`What`
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`23:54.12`	`Chaud`	`during the day he stands in the window and touches himself =o`
`23:54.19`	`charon`	`ok, the topicdriftometer points at "you should leave now"... night all`
`23:54.24`	`chiper`	`Ellipsis: easy for you to say, you'd have to use a mirror to see anything`
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`23:54.40`	`Gagorian-`	`nevcairiel`
`23:55.06`	`chiper`	`hmm, that sounded funnier in my head`
`23:55.15`	`Ellipsis`	`it must have`
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`23:56.16`	`CIA-39`	`03ackis * r68840 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua:`
`23:56.16`	`CIA-39`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`23:56.16`	`CIA-39`	`- All JC world drops converted to Spell ID`
`23:56.16`	`CIA-39`	`- JC update (a lot of recipes that were UWD are now correctly RWD)`
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`23:56.29`	`Fix[EJ]`	`Woah, default WoW fonts...its so strange!`
`23:56.30`	`NeoTron`	`4are the new rare haste gems world drops btw?`
`23:57.41`	`whatsinthename`	`is there a replacement for whodrop?`
`23:57.56`	`Nandini`	`yes, it's called wowhead`
`23:57.56`	`_rane`	`what does whodrop do`
`23:57.57`	`Dashkal`	`that reminds me. Anybody else finding that clearfonts don't work after /rl for the chat frames?`
`23:58.05`	`_rane`	`Dashkal: yes!`
`23:58.08`	`_rane`	`super annoying`

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