| 00:00.54 | stew_a | what is the name of this prat replacement you are growing antiarc? |
| 00:01.01 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@60-241-56-168.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:01.14 | starlon | Chatter |
| 00:01.28 | stew_a | ta |
| 00:01.51 | Chaud | the url copy thing in chatter owns the broken I.W.I.N button link |
| 00:02.13 | Antiarc | In a good or bad way? :P |
| 00:02.25 | Chaud | bad I guess |
| 00:02.47 | Chaud | http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/3807/ifailez8.jpg |
| 00:02.52 | stew_a | is 69639 the latest one? |
| 00:03.07 | Arrowmaster` | Antiarc: let me put my UrlCopy in it |
| 00:03.11 | starlon | Yeah url copy is also catching strings "like.this" |
| 00:03.14 | Antiarc | stew_w: For the next few minutes, yes |
| 00:03.22 | stew_a | coolio |
| 00:03.26 | charon | Ellipsis: http://ace.pastey.net/85712 |
| 00:03.27 | Antiarc | starlon: The latest? It should be much more restrictive about the patterns it matches |
| 00:03.43 | starlon | I'm not sure if that was before I updated today or not. |
| 00:03.47 | Chaud | how about the whole unaligning everything "Feature" =p |
| 00:03.57 | starlon | I'll keep an eye on it :) |
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| 00:04.43 | Antiarc | Chaud: Fixed |
| 00:04.46 | *** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=jjsheets@c-98-214-77-115.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 00:04.56 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69653 10Chatter/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:04.56 | CIA-39 | Chatter: |
| 00:04.56 | CIA-39 | - Fixed button re-enabling |
| 00:04.56 | CIA-39 | - Added LibSink support to the Highlight module |
| 00:05.06 | Chaud | Thank god |
| 00:05.11 | Lukian | starlon, no matching those strings is a prat feature ;p |
| 00:05.15 | Chaud | I thought I was going crazy at the AH |
| 00:05.18 | *** join/#wowace Moddington (n=chatzill@75.152.140.106) |
| 00:05.20 | Lukian | chatter doesn't include such functionality! |
| 00:05.45 | Ellipsis | charon: you are lying, again |
| 00:05.46 | starlon | Just tested a few, they weren't caught |
| 00:05.55 | charon | Ellipsis: what |
| 00:05.56 | starlon | gives a thumbs up |
| 00:06.12 | Ellipsis | charon: I seriously have no idea how that error can happen |
| 00:06.23 | Arrowmaster` | Lukian: prat doesnt catch anything but real urls |
| 00:06.31 | Lukian | Arrowmaster, haha :) |
| 00:06.35 | charon | i can pastey a few seconds of the combat log around that time if that helps |
| 00:06.43 | Lukian | technically anything can be a url! :D |
| 00:06.44 | Chaud | stupid WAU says 69639 is latest chatter =( |
| 00:06.49 | charon | however, i just had a quick look and there's nothing AURAish that looks suspicious to me |
| 00:06.53 | Arrowmaster` | because i rewrote all the patterns in it |
| 00:07.25 | Silverstorm | so...is there anything I can do about a guildie named Raiden that I can't put on oRA2 MT window? |
| 00:07.49 | Lukian | Silverstorm, haha nice bug :D |
| 00:08.02 | Silverstorm | it's because the name starts with "raid" |
| 00:08.06 | Arrowmaster` | its a blizzard bug i think |
| 00:09.09 | kenlyric | highlight module to libsink |
| 00:09.14 | kenlyric | you are some kind of god |
| 00:12.52 | stew_a | looks awesome antiarc |
| 00:15.08 | Zhinjio | I forget ... what bumps cooking up to 375? |
| 00:15.10 | CIA-39 | 03Krevlorn * r69654 10FuBar_HonorFuPlus/ (FuBar_HonorFuPlus.toc HonorFuPlus.lua): FuBar_HonorFuPlus: fixed honor updating after purchase |
| 00:15.14 | Zhinjio | a book or quest or something? |
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| 00:15.23 | Orionshock | urg.... |
| 00:15.36 | Ellipsis | down boy |
| 00:16.50 | breser | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.55 | breser | Crap. |
| 00:16.55 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:16.58 | breser | Damn spaces. |
| 00:17.00 | Ellipsis | fail :P |
| 00:17.06 | Lukian | what's an in game item database with tab item completion? |
| 00:17.19 | Lukian | I dislike ItemSync and TooltipExchange no-ext doesn't work. |
| 00:17.34 | stew_a | ludwig lukian |
| 00:17.49 | kenlyric | Zhinjio: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27736 book |
| 00:18.21 | Zhinjio | damnit, I was just there too. didn't think to lookin his inventory. I asked him to train me. |
| 00:19.47 | breser | is kinda sad about having to drop Herbalism for Engineering. |
| 00:20.07 | Chaud | I wish I could pick up eng =( |
| 00:20.31 | Gngsk | is it just me or does chatter break tab completion in the editbox? |
| 00:20.33 | breser | We got the Leather healing goggle pattern yesterday... So everyone is insisting that I switch. |
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| 00:21.20 | Mazohyst | How do I get the recount main window to show up? Damn thing dissappeared on me... |
| 00:21.26 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_041308_172058.jpg <-- my chat is sexy as hell now |
| 00:21.33 | breser | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:22.03 | [NR]Geck | gah multitips is broken, first tip is fine, all subsequent tips opened have omgmegawtf large font :[ |
| 00:22.05 | Gngsk | Antiarc, sex is in the eye of the beer holder |
| 00:22.13 | Lukian | Antiarc, I also noticed the "Font" dropdowns didn't work |
| 00:22.22 | Antiarc | Lukian: You have SharedMedia installed? |
| 00:22.27 | stew_a | very cool antiarc, is there any way to lock the tabs visible though? |
| 00:22.34 | Chaud | lol@using "Trade" =p |
| 00:22.43 | Lukian | Antiarc, ah that could be it, I have various versions disabled |
| 00:23.55 | Arrowmaster` | Antiarc: ive noticed all your font dropdowns in omen and chatter are blank by default instead of using a default font |
| 00:24.00 | Antiarc | stew_a: Not currently |
| 00:24.09 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Yeah, need to fix that |
| 00:24.25 | Arrowmaster` | use Arial N as the default in chatter |
| 00:25.03 | kenlyric | don't listen to that demon |
| 00:25.13 | Antiarc | Arial N sucks balls |
| 00:25.28 | Antiarc | TwoCentMT is my chat font of choice |
| 00:25.30 | breser | OMG my eyes, that hideos font Antiarc... |
| 00:25.31 | kenlyric | arial is just an awful font |
| 00:25.33 | Antiarc | Bold, easy to read, very pleasing |
| 00:25.35 | Arrowmaster` | Arial N is the default |
| 00:25.41 | kenlyric | you can tell because microsoft made it the default for so long in Word |
| 00:25.51 | Lukian | yeah for some reason my addon dependancies have versions 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 of sharedmedia installed >< |
| 00:25.52 | breser | The characters are wide enough to run a highway down them. |
| 00:25.58 | kenlyric | it wasn't the default on mine |
| 00:26.08 | kenlyric | or you mean the wow default? |
| 00:26.14 | Arrowmaster` | Arial N is teh wow default for chatframes |
| 00:26.27 | Antiarc | breser: I run at 1920x1200 |
| 00:26.30 | Antiarc | It's readable from far away |
| 00:26.38 | Antiarc | And I'm not exactly hurting for screen real estate :P |
| 00:26.54 | breser | http://shefki.brain.org/ScreenShot_041108_180109.jpeg |
| 00:27.02 | stew_a | wtb more screen realestate |
| 00:27.12 | kenlyric | yeah, i've had a chat mod since I started playing. probably because I couldn't read the chat :) |
| 00:27.13 | breser | That's what I'm using and I'm at 2560x1600 but I guess it's more of a perference. |
| 00:27.26 | CIA-39 | 03jncl * r69655 10Skinner/ (56 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:27.26 | CIA-39 | Skinner: Skinned GFW_HuntersHelperUI, LinkWrangler, NicheCombatConfig, Trinity2, TrinityBars2 |
| 00:27.26 | CIA-39 | - Updated the following skins with standardised Tooltip code: |
| 00:27.26 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.26 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:27.29 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.30 | Orionshock | -"Use GetSpellInfo(), it'll be fine, faster and you don't have to use babble..." Bullshit... |
| 00:27.31 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.32 | kenlyric | i'm a garamond whore, we're trained to hate helvetica |
| 00:27.43 | CIA-39 | 03orionshock * r69656 10GuildCraft/ (BTS-Mini.lua core.lua): |
| 00:27.43 | CIA-39 | GuildCraft: |
| 00:27.43 | CIA-39 | -try to bugfix mini-BTS lookups that aren't there on load. |
| 00:28.12 | starlon | ui scale imo |
| 00:28.29 | Arrowmaster` | so my combatlog is gone |
| 00:28.34 | Arrowmaster` | not getting anything in it |
| 00:28.42 | Arrowmaster` | frame is there but no output |
| 00:29.08 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.24 | Arrowmaster` | lol |
| 00:29.39 | Arrowmaster` | 1 |
| 00:29.41 | [NR]Geck | Pfft Accidental Presidency is the best font <3 |
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| 00:30.13 | Antiarc | Huh |
| 00:30.17 | Antiarc | Unregistered all your messages? |
| 00:30.47 | Arrowmaster` | Antiarc: Chatter was working fine with it but maybe its interfearing with my CombatLogTimestamper |
| 00:33.24 | Lukian | Antiarc, ah it doesn't work without "SharedMedia" installed/enabled. (Lib: SharedMedia-3.0 enabled) |
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| 00:35.29 | Antiarc | Lukian: Correct |
| 00:35.53 | Lukian | shouldn't libsharedmedia-3.0 have a dep on sharedmedia then? |
| 00:35.59 | Antiarc | No |
| 00:36.11 | Antiarc | Because you don't want to download sharedmedia with every addon that uses libsharedmedia |
| 00:36.52 | Jaxon | Is there a simple way to convert addons depending on SharedMedia1 to a newer version? |
| 00:37.21 | durcyn | Jaxon: s/AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0")/LibStub("LibSharedMedia-3.0")/g |
| 00:37.26 | durcyn | well, with some escapes |
| 00:37.34 | Jaxon | Excellent, thanks. |
| 00:37.42 | durcyn | the functions are all the same. you'll also want to update your media on the callbacks |
| 00:37.58 | Jaxon | The version of Hourglass I have still uses it. |
| 00:38.01 | Arrowmaster` | NO |
| 00:38.04 | Arrowmaster` | THAT IS WRONG |
| 00:38.16 | Arrowmaster` | do not do that to convert |
| 00:38.35 | Jaxon | Oh? |
| 00:38.47 | Arrowmaster` | you need to register callbacks |
| 00:39.07 | durcyn | "you'll also want to update your media on the callbacks" |
| 00:39.15 | durcyn | christ, you're a mouthy one today |
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| 00:40.13 | swissky | hallo |
| 00:40.23 | Arrowmaster` | well im trying to read irc and raid at the same time |
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| 00:41.16 | Silverstorm | better than raiding IRC and reading at the same time |
| 00:44.13 | Arrowmaster` | hmm disabled my CombatLogTimestamper and still no combatlog |
| 00:44.32 | Chaud | who needs a combatlog anyway =p |
| 00:45.07 | kenlyric | raiding irc is fruitful |
| 00:45.14 | kenlyric | all the gear on wowhead is yours |
| 00:45.25 | CIA-39 | 03orionshock * r69657 10SickOfClickingDailies/localization-deDE.lua: |
| 00:45.25 | CIA-39 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 00:45.25 | CIA-39 | -deDE update by Sinxia |
| 00:46.42 | Chaud | <3 SickOfClickingDailies |
| 00:47.15 | Orionshock | o.O |
| 00:47.20 | Antiarc | 17:46 GoG Neviim: IM NOT SLEEPING WITH A MINOR oh guild chat is back |
| 00:47.23 | Antiarc | go go copy feature. |
| 00:47.53 | Orionshock | Chaud: really? |
| 00:47.56 | Chaud | Sometimes. |
| 00:48.11 | Chaud | Except for when it doesn't pick the Sunfury Signets and autocomplete |
| 00:48.26 | Chaud | or work for the cooking quest |
| 00:48.27 | kenlyric | you should pick the aldor one |
| 00:48.38 | kenlyric | sunfury is saturated from all the blood elves being killed |
| 00:48.39 | Orionshock | Chaud: any erros? |
| 00:48.52 | Chaud | No errors at all |
| 00:49.36 | Chaud | I'll check the thread on it later tonight after I get this paper done and see if I am missing anything |
| 00:49.46 | Orionshock | humm... those 2 quests have rewards, so it won't autocomplete them till you select what quest reward u want. |
| 00:50.21 | Chaud | Are there options somewhere or does it just remember which one you selected previously? |
| 00:50.55 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.08 | Chaud | Allrighty, I'll check them later. Thanks |
| 00:52.06 | dranor | it used to error if there wasn't a preference for the rewards |
| 00:52.06 | Arrowmaster` | so my wow is broken |
| 00:52.25 | Arrowmaster` | im not seeing bloodbil bars |
| 00:52.27 | Orionshock | dranor: shouldn't do that anymore :D |
| 00:52.51 | kenlyric | could it remember what you pick and pick that every time? |
| 00:52.53 | Chaud | I just installed it a while ago, so haven't used it more than a few days =p |
| 00:53.21 | dranor | Orionshock: do you plan to add a default profile support? |
| 00:53.36 | NivFreak | NeoTron: hi! |
| 00:53.37 | Orionshock | kenlyric: like when u first do it, it picks up what reward u got and just goes with it? that would require some magic and hackery that i don't wana do... |
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| 00:53.57 | kenlyric | no |
| 00:54.08 | NivFreak | so what was all this svn nonsense with Scorpio0920 about? |
| 00:54.11 | kenlyric | the exact opposite is what I said |
| 00:54.14 | kenlyric | could it remember what you pick and pick that every time? |
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| 00:54.26 | kenlyric | you manually pick the first time and it remember which reward you pick |
| 00:54.36 | dranor | NivFreak: useless toc bumping |
| 00:54.45 | *** join/#wowace iNs|Renew (n=mronlin@adsl273.cnetco.com) |
| 00:54.46 | Chaud | was that last night? |
| 00:54.51 | Antiarc | toc bumping of items that needed to not be toc bumped that he didn't own |
| 00:55.00 | Orionshock | ..yes u select it from the options window |
| 00:55.11 | NivFreak | Antiarc: hah, nice |
| 00:55.12 | Orionshock | but on the fly pick up from the gossip window.. no |
| 00:55.18 | NivFreak | Antiarc: I see you added AoE tank mode :) |
| 00:55.31 | NivFreak | I'm hitting hyjal tonight, will be interesting to test |
| 00:55.46 | Fisker- | hmm Antiarc |
| 00:55.53 | Fisker- | checked if your newest revision removes "Report Spam"? |
| 00:56.25 | Antiarc | Hn |
| 00:56.30 | Antiarc | I'm not in a major city to test that |
| 00:56.44 | stew_a | i dont have a "report spam" anymore either |
| 00:56.51 | Antiarc | Maybe I replaced it! |
| 00:56.52 | Antiarc | I'll fix it |
| 00:58.40 | stew_a | for the borders/background would it be possible to get an "apply to all frames" button? |
| 01:04.06 | Arrowmaster | so its not an issue of my combatlog not displaying |
| 01:04.12 | Arrowmaster | im actually not even getting the events |
| 01:04.19 | Arrowmaster | no bloodboil bars on bigwigs |
| 01:04.29 | Arrowmaster | no bars on RoS |
| 01:04.59 | Arrowmaster | im just not getting any events other than ones involving me i think |
| 01:06.16 | CIA-39 | 03sayclub * r69658 10Chinon/ (Chinon.toc Locale/koKR.lua): |
| 01:06.16 | CIA-39 | Chinon: |
| 01:06.16 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.21 | Arrowmaster | threat-2.0 seems to be working so im getting damage events |
| 01:06.25 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r69659 10AckisRecipeList/: |
| 01:06.25 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:06.25 | CIA-39 | - Typo fix from the Emperor of Typos Ackis |
| 01:06.39 | Chaud | ackis is bad =( |
| 01:06.49 | kenlyric | no u |
| 01:06.52 | kenlyric | he's the emperor |
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| 01:07.26 | Chaud | ask him about his face. |
| 01:07.56 | Chaud | and how he is really darth vader |
| 01:08.28 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:08.37 | Chaud | speak of the vader =O |
| 01:08.41 | Ackis | notor took a picture of my face about 2 months after the accident :P |
| 01:08.52 | Ackis | of course it was going to be scarred |
| 01:08.55 | Arrowmaster` | LOL |
| 01:08.56 | Chaud | did you frame the photoshop I did and put it on the wall?! |
| 01:08.59 | Arrowmaster` | threat isnt working |
| 01:09.05 | Arrowmaster` | im not getting ANY combatlog events |
| 01:09.52 | Chaud | It was quite the 5 min photoshop job |
| 01:10.30 | Ackis | there were two they posted i think, can't remember... was funny as hell |
| 01:10.59 | Chaud | what happened to cause that in the first place |
| 01:11.10 | Ackis | i wished i would've taken a screenshot of nition telling me that all i'm good for is a spirit buff |
| 01:12.05 | Chaud | true story tbh |
| 01:12.30 | Chaud | http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5277/ackisfv2.jpg <--- ackis face |
| 01:12.46 | Ackis | force chokes you |
| 01:12.48 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:13.13 | Chaud | how far are you on twins |
| 01:14.29 | Ackis | not sure, haven't logged in yet, in queue... had a family issue that has caused me to be late |
| 01:17.43 | CIA-39 | 03krakhaan * r69660 10EnchantBot/EnchantBot.lua: |
| 01:17.43 | CIA-39 | EnchantBot: |
| 01:17.43 | CIA-39 | - Code clean up |
| 01:17.55 | CIA-39 | 03krakhaan * r69661 10CraftBot/CraftBot.lua: |
| 01:17.55 | CIA-39 | CraftBot: |
| 01:17.56 | CIA-39 | - Fixed wim shortcut |
| 01:18.51 | Arrowmaster` | whats the function to get a list of all frames registered for an event? |
| 01:19.13 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: you can't? |
| 01:19.18 | Arrowmaster` | you can |
| 01:19.32 | JoshBorke | liar! |
| 01:19.51 | Arrowmaster` | fine making me have to open up firefox in the middle of a raid |
| 01:19.56 | JJSheets | Arrowmaster, your wowwiki fu is weak. |
| 01:20.01 | JJSheets | lol |
| 01:20.21 | Arrowmaster` | need to double check that ive got frames registered for the combatlog events |
| 01:20.48 | Chaud | need integrated browser / IM client in wow tbh |
| 01:20.50 | JJSheets | Arrowmaster, GetFramesRegisteredForEvent(event) |
| 01:21.58 | Arrowmaster` | ok frames are registered |
| 01:22.11 | Chaud | combat logs are for the weak |
| 01:22.12 | JoshBorke | Chaud: that's what dual monitors are for |
| 01:22.14 | Civrock | Why the hell is DetachedMiniButtons all of a sudden causing memory usage spikes... |
| 01:22.27 | JJSheets | Bah, that's what a second system iss for. |
| 01:22.30 | Chaud | I have to play in full screen |
| 01:22.30 | kenlyric | it probably has dogtags |
| 01:23.22 | Chaud | http://sancus.off.net/loldogtags.jpg =\ |
| 01:23.35 | Chaud | that is srs biznass =( |
| 01:27.15 | Fisker- | you have died motherfucker |
| 01:27.17 | Fisker- | can you dig it? |
| 01:28.32 | NivFreak | bleh, my server is down again |
| 01:29.24 | Chaud | level on another realm |
| 01:30.04 | NivFreak | that seems like that help my raid tonight ;) |
| 01:33.00 | Silverstorm | wtb 24 competent people to help me kill Archi. My guild isn't getting it (and we've killed him a number of times already) |
| 01:35.57 | *** join/#wowace Next96 (i=Next96@121.129.140.141) |
| 01:36.54 | [NR]Geck | tbh I don't know why people find archi so hard, from an individual perspective it's a joke :/ |
| 01:37.08 | [NR]Geck | the fire is easy to move from, yet people still manage to find ways to die to it |
| 01:37.12 | [NR]Geck | Silverstorm |
| 01:37.32 | Chaud | It sneaks up on you |
| 01:37.45 | [NR]Geck | not really :) |
| 01:37.47 | Silverstorm | yeah...but it isn't hard |
| 01:38.09 | [NR]Geck | the fire is so BLATANT when it's coming towards you that you'd have to have the reactions of a sedated sloth to NOT get away from it |
| 01:40.04 | Chaud | but I just wanted to finish that holy light, firebal, shadowbolt, ect. |
| 01:41.08 | kenlyric | The violin, while a great instrument, simply isn't relevant anymore. It has faded away like anything else. |
| 01:41.22 | kenlyric | lol |
| 01:41.56 | Estil | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/kenpatt/WoWScrnShot_041308_005411.jpg <-- latest 2.5 speculations! |
| 01:42.30 | kenlyric | don't desert the ptr |
| 01:42.34 | Chaud | I didn't see it coming |
| 01:43.19 | kenlyric | troll doesn't seem appropriate tough |
| 01:43.23 | kenlyric | errr, orc |
| 01:43.34 | kenlyric | he's more of a blood elf |
| 01:43.46 | stavmar | Estil: impressive |
| 01:44.02 | [NR]Geck | LOL Estil |
| 01:44.06 | exor674 | Estil: how many accounts did you have to hack for that? |
| 01:44.11 | Estil | nah it's not mine |
| 01:44.14 | Estil | I got it off wow forums |
| 01:44.23 | Chaud | you read them =O |
| 01:44.28 | Estil | yea, I troll whole lot |
| 01:44.30 | Estil | in wow forums |
| 01:44.35 | Estil | and I laugh at people getting their panties in a bunch |
| 01:44.48 | Estil | or sometimes, I just deliver laughs to people |
| 01:44.53 | Chaud | pve vs pvp, hardcore vs casual, arenas vs world pvp uwt. |
| 01:44.55 | Estil | for example: |
| 01:44.56 | Chaud | *wut. |
| 01:44.57 | Estil | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665394668&sid=1 |
| 01:45.04 | Estil | (Lolferal is my druid) |
| 01:45.35 | [NR]Geck | ROFL some moron shadowpriest is trying to gank me while I'm in full shadow res gear ._. |
| 01:45.40 | [NR]Geck | someone wins the Moron Awards |
| 01:45.42 | Chaud | Blenders don't intercept. |
| 01:45.44 | Chaud | rofl |
| 01:46.08 | xyu | archimonde is one of my favorite fights. am i weird or do more people feel this way ? |
| 01:46.26 | [NR]Geck | it's my favorite fight too |
| 01:46.35 | lagger | whats the easiest way to find the cooldown of a pets ability |
| 01:46.55 | Chaud | your eyes |
| 01:47.09 | xyu | and a pet bar |
| 01:47.22 | Estil | I even made a picture |
| 01:47.26 | kenlyric | bar-free displays don't like bars |
| 01:47.31 | Estil | to illustrate how Warrior-Blender is overpowered in that topic |
| 01:47.40 | Silverstorm | xyu: mine too....except when I'm attempting with 24 idiots |
| 01:47.42 | [NR]Geck | I'm pretty convinced RoS is the best encounter in BT/MH by a LONG way though :P |
| 01:48.08 | Chaud | Estil you win the game |
| 01:48.21 | Chaud | now make a collection of topics that amusing for me to read |
| 01:48.31 | [NR]Geck | could be a bit harder though, it's always a quick, easy simple 1-shot every week, I actually hope we wipe on it sometimes just so I can do it for longer :p |
| 01:48.45 | Estil | lol |
| 01:48.48 | Estil | I have whole bunch |
| 01:49.11 | CIA-39 | 03next96 * r69662 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 01:49.11 | CIA-39 | Skinner: |
| 01:49.11 | CIA-39 | - Update locale koKR |
| 01:49.50 | Estil | I do sometimes deliver a serious topics though |
| 01:49.51 | Chaud | I like that heigan fight |
| 01:50.00 | Chaud | even though I die so many times |
| 01:50.11 | Antiarc | I like Teron and RoS |
| 01:50.11 | [NR]Geck | haha |
| 01:50.30 | [NR]Geck | Meh I can't stand teron |
| 01:50.33 | xyu | Teron is ok. |
| 01:50.36 | xyu | a little "tank and spanky" tho |
| 01:50.38 | [NR]Geck | it's not hard by any means, I just find it boring |
| 01:50.43 | xyu | unless you're lucky |
| 01:50.43 | Chaud | watching people die, and the MT who is yelling on vent with his russian accent was hilarious |
| 01:50.45 | xyu | or unlucky |
| 01:50.50 | xyu | depending on how you look at it :P |
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| 01:50.52 | stavmar | so we just started teron last night,is it a lot of luck? Or can it be done consistantly? THat flash game makes it seem quite difficult? |
| 01:50.58 | Chaud | "It is so easy, what you are doing on floor!" |
| 01:51.14 | Antiarc | Teron is very much not luck |
| 01:51.16 | xyu | C'thun probably is my all time favorite. |
| 01:51.19 | xyu | followed by archi |
| 01:51.23 | Antiarc | Bloodboil can be luck. Teron is not luck. |
| 01:51.25 | Chaud | I died the only time I have been to cthun =( |
| 01:51.25 | [NR]Geck | unless I get shadow, all I do is stand there with my back to the wall spamming Shadow Bolt for 4 mins |
| 01:51.34 | xyu | The only way teron would be considered luck |
| 01:51.38 | [NR]Geck | Teron isn't luck at all if people aren't stupid |
| 01:51.38 | xyu | if all your healers get ghosted |
| 01:51.49 | Antiarc | even then you have druid rezzes and soulstones |
| 01:51.50 | xyu | but even then, soul stone + BRs etc. |
| 01:51.51 | Chaud | went in the stomach thing with low HP from killing a add thing and died |
| 01:51.53 | [NR]Geck | it's way easier in-game than it is in the flash g ame, stavmar |
| 01:52.14 | stavmar | ok, so what makes it a success, it was the last thing we did with only 20 minutes of raid time left, is the Soulstone teh debuffed player the right way to go? |
| 01:52.19 | [NR]Geck | the first time I got a ghost in-game I'd kill all of the constructs before I knew it |
| 01:52.20 | liekki | teron is all about luck, its wheter noobs get the thingy or not |
| 01:52.20 | liekki | :D |
| 01:52.35 | xyu | it's always "That guy" :P |
| 01:52.37 | xyu | plz god nooo |
| 01:52.38 | liekki | indeed |
| 01:52.38 | [NR]Geck | the trick is to spam the living hell out of lance, you can do it mega fast |
| 01:52.44 | stavmar | we left that guy outside last night |
| 01:52.50 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.51 | [NR]Geck | and almost instagib them if you have pro lightning speed |
| 01:52.53 | xyu | my trick is to Volley, then chains at the start |
| 01:52.56 | xyu | then spam lance |
| 01:53.04 | stavmar | well i spam shadow bolts, but i suppose our mages would doa good job of that |
| 01:53.12 | Silverstorm | Orionshock: it's COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 01:53.14 | Chaud | clients are for the week |
| 01:53.18 | Chaud | *weak |
| 01:53.22 | [NR]Geck | volley -> chains -> spam lance and tab INCREDIBLY fast |
| 01:53.25 | Orionshock | Silverstorm: ah... |
| 01:53.25 | xyu | month* |
| 01:53.28 | [NR]Geck | they go boom |
| 01:53.38 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: lol? |
| 01:53.52 | Orionshock | that's what i said |
| 01:54.02 | stavmar | holy crap my server has me queued, that is garbage |
| 01:54.09 | *** join/#wowace Mik1 (n=mike@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 01:54.29 | xyu | better than an empty server |
| 01:54.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 01:54.32 | [NR]Geck | Gurtogg is possibly the worst boss ever concieved ._. |
| 01:54.34 | xyu | i'd take queues over empty any day |
| 01:54.45 | stavmar | xyu: i suppose you are right |
| 01:54.46 | xyu | akama imo |
| 01:54.49 | xyu | worst boss ever |
| 01:54.51 | xyu | zzzzz |
| 01:54.54 | Chaud | my realm had a ~50 queue most nights the last month or so, and we got free xfers off |
| 01:54.59 | Silverstorm | heh, I'm affliction, akama is fun |
| 01:55.09 | stavmar | good lore with that boss, was lots of fun to execute but only took two attempts |
| 01:55.11 | [NR]Geck | akama isn't a boss, it's a few trash mobs and a killable loot chest |
| 01:55.14 | [NR]Geck | lolol |
| 01:55.23 | xyu | it's the "chess" event of BT |
| 01:55.27 | [NR]Geck | yeah idd |
| 01:55.29 | stavmar | Silverstorm: I am affliction too, are there any other in your raid that are affliction |
| 01:55.30 | [NR]Geck | but Gurtogg is just HORRIBLE |
| 01:55.37 | Silverstorm | not anymore, finally |
| 01:55.48 | stavmar | why do you say that |
| 01:55.51 | Civrock | Zeksie: WTB an option in GrimReaper to reset the data so it's not sitting at several MBs in my PerformanceFu, increasing. |
| 01:56.00 | Silverstorm | because in T6, every lock except one should be 21/40 destro |
| 01:56.12 | [NR]Geck | it's easy when only rogues get fel rage, they just pop evasion and dont take damage for almost all of the duration of the fel rage |
| 01:56.17 | [NR]Geck | but when mages get it, it's hell |
| 01:56.22 | CIA-39 | 03krakhaan * r69663 10AB/ (AB.lua AB.toc AB.xml ReadMe.txt): |
| 01:56.22 | CIA-39 | AB: |
| 01:56.22 | CIA-39 | - Updated multiline messages will be sent as multiple messages and not concatenated as one. Each line cannot exceed 255 characters still |
| 01:56.22 | CIA-39 | - Fixed minor bug when removing current message (UI) |
| 01:56.22 | CIA-39 | - Fixed minor bug referencing Answering Machine Plus battleground array |
| 01:56.31 | Silverstorm | I like bloodboil, too...the movement and technical play is fun |
| 01:56.33 | [NR]Geck | though when we don't have the "bad" healers in the raid it's fine :/ |
| 01:56.36 | stavmar | Silverstorm: i can accept that, why did you choose not to go destro, and I assume you need it for maldiction, and.... |
| 01:56.57 | Silverstorm | because I'm the best in our guild at affliction, and I don't mind playing buff/debuff bot |
| 01:57.28 | [NR]Geck | I can't go back to playing Affliction after being Destro for so long |
| 01:57.30 | stavmar | and where do you satck up in damage at teh end of a raid? I find myself strugling to keep up on BT Trash, or any trash really |
| 01:57.33 | [NR]Geck | it just feels.. uncomfortable :/ |
| 01:58.05 | Silverstorm | eh, depends. I have basically eveything but T6 at this point, and I'm probably somewhere in 6-10 |
| 01:58.09 | stavmar | Antiarc: you there? |
| 01:58.16 | Silverstorm | Hyjal trash, though...pwnzor time! |
| 01:58.16 | [NR]Geck | I'm used to spamming 2-3 buttons and putting all my attention into the boss itself, not pressing 4-5 buttons in a sequence and spending almost every fight staring at a group of timers |
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| 01:58.45 | Silverstorm | Geck: I'm used to the cycle now |
| 01:58.47 | *** join/#wowace SumpinFishy (n=hipplewm@208.5.145.160) |
| 01:58.48 | Groktar|Nescient | heh, brut 51% at 3 minutes |
| 01:58.48 | [NR]Geck | going back to affliction gives me a migraine :( |
| 01:58.49 | stavmar | Chatter keeps resetting channel names after loggin out and logging back into WoW, Antiarc |
| 01:58.58 | stavmar | Silverstorm: same for me 6-10 |
| 01:58.58 | Groktar|Nescient | and 3 people managed to die in that first 3 minutes |
| 01:59.28 | Antiarc | stavmar: I had one other person report that bu I can't reproduce it |
| 01:59.42 | [NR]Geck | my UI isn't very "affliction friendly" either :P another reason I hate going affliction |
| 01:59.45 | SumpinFishy | Hey all....haven't been around for a few days. Has anyone narrowed down the join/leave raid lag bug yet...or a workaround? |
| 01:59.46 | stavmar | hmm, can i help some how |
| 01:59.59 | stavmar | could it be Tekkub chat fix that i am also using? |
| 02:00.04 | Estil | it appears to be difficult to get pve gears on my druid outside uber badgefarm or t5-level gears |
| 02:00.06 | CIA-39 | 03krakhaan * r69664 10AB/AB.lua: |
| 02:00.06 | CIA-39 | AB: |
| 02:00.06 | CIA-39 | - Updated multiline messages will be sent as multiple messages and not concatenated as one. Each line cannot exceed 255 characters still |
| 02:00.06 | CIA-39 | - Fixed minor bug when removing current message (UI) |
| 02:00.06 | CIA-39 | - Fixed minor bug referencing Answering Machine Plus battleground array |
| 02:00.08 | stavmar | Tekkub's |
| 02:00.16 | Antiarc | Try it without |
| 02:00.38 | Estil | how viable is S3 for PvEing as a resto druid in raiding? |
| 02:00.39 | [NR]Geck | I don't have any real DoT timers, I display timers on my PitBull target/focus auras, and use focus for CC/keeping up CoT on council, playing affliction without any real DoT timers isnt fun :P |
| 02:00.48 | Ellipsis | ewww |
| 02:01.15 | Estil | I mean, how far can I go using S3 as acceptable performance in raiding? |
| 02:01.45 | SumpinFishy | S3 = early t5 depending on class...most mana classes don't have much regen on PvP gear |
| 02:01.54 | Estil | <-- druid |
| 02:01.58 | SumpinFishy | S3 for DPS classes goes much farther |
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| 02:02.08 | Chaud | druid + s3 = bad mp/5 afaik |
| 02:02.12 | SumpinFishy | Our druid tanks up to council using S3 chest |
| 02:02.34 | Estil | yea, but I don't see alternative gears excluding expensive badge gears or T5-level gear |
| 02:02.35 | Estil | :( |
| 02:02.51 | Estil | but our druids are pretty incompetent |
| 02:02.58 | Chaud | WTH is this http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Lactaid |
| 02:02.58 | SumpinFishy | are you druid heals? ie Tree? |
| 02:03.12 | Estil | lol, sadly, I raid in pvp spec... 11/11/39 |
| 02:03.32 | Chaud | that isn't a PvP spec at all 0o |
| 02:03.37 | Estil | uh here |
| 02:03.52 | Estil | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Lolferal |
| 02:03.52 | Chaud | 8/11/42 =\ |
| 02:03.54 | SumpinFishy | Yeah, then PvP gear will not get you very far....ideally, you want a 2:1 ratio spi to int for good mana regen post 2.4 You will never get there in pvp gear |
| 02:03.54 | Estil | that is my character |
| 02:04.03 | [NR]Geck | hmm |
| 02:04.10 | Chaud | why insect swarm? |
| 02:04.21 | [NR]Geck | DAMAGE_TEXT_FONT shouldn't be changing chat bubble font should it? D: |
| 02:04.23 | Chaud | a pvp resto druid that has next to no use? |
| 02:04.24 | Estil | it helps in dailies + and is great against melee teams |
| 02:04.32 | Estil | and it costs nearly 0 mana |
| 02:05.25 | Chaud | hmm |
| 02:05.27 | Chaud | I guess so |
| 02:05.31 | Estil | here is our wws healing in grull/mag (nothing major, but our guild is only started "serious 25 man raid") |
| 02:05.33 | Estil | http://wowwebstats.com/3czi63tsbg4vc |
| 02:05.40 | Chaud | do you run ZA at all? |
| 02:05.45 | Chaud | that has some decent gear |
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| 02:06.16 | stew_a | antiarc, does chatter have any kind of interface to allow other addons to get chatter to format strings? |
| 02:06.32 | Venara | Hey there :) |
| 02:06.42 | Estil | ZA eh |
| 02:06.45 | Estil | guess I should |
| 02:06.54 | Estil | pretty much nothing in kara is an upgrade |
| 02:06.59 | Chaud | my friend in mostly za/kara/some pvp gear has a ton more mp/5 than you http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=gurubashi&n=baredurid |
| 02:07.00 | Estil | except cloak off prince |
| 02:07.58 | Estil | hmm |
| 02:08.03 | Estil | okay I guess I'll have to go ZA runs |
| 02:09.34 | SumpinFishy | Post 2.4 leave the MP5 gear for Pallies/Shaman Priest/Druid need to load up on Spi |
| 02:09.42 | Antiarc | stew_a: short answer, no, longer answer, like what? |
| 02:10.15 | Estil | lolllll @ this Arena... check out time elapsed: http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omgitsoverbm6.jpg |
| 02:10.34 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: like prat |
| 02:10.38 | Paene | wow |
| 02:10.47 | Paene | longest I've seen before this was 2 hours |
| 02:11.02 | Estil | they got GM to do rock paper scissors to decide who wins |
| 02:11.05 | Estil | beacuse they couldn't win |
| 02:11.07 | Venara | the screenshot is a little old by now :> i've seen it a few weeks ago |
| 02:11.24 | Estil | but damn, how can anyone sit and do 10 hours of Arena |
| 02:11.25 | Estil | straight |
| 02:11.27 | Estil | with no rest... |
| 02:11.31 | Estil | in a single game! |
| 02:11.40 | Chaud | what is rest |
| 02:11.44 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I dunno what it does, tell me |
| 02:11.48 | Chaud | and where do I find the time for some |
| 02:11.53 | stew_a | like standard format string goes in, chatter formatted string comes out, for other mods like elephant and wim |
| 02:12.00 | Paene | Chaud: it's when you get bonus XP in WoW |
| 02:12.04 | Paene | for killing stuff |
| 02:12.08 | Antiarc | Oh, I could do that easily |
| 02:12.10 | Chaud | I see now! |
| 02:12.17 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: dont add it yet |
| 02:12.23 | Paene | yeah, I hear it's pretty neat |
| 02:12.31 | Antiarc | It'd just be exposing a table with a metatable on it |
| 02:12.33 | Paene | never had it happen to me tho |
| 02:12.38 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: zoot was just saying the new filtering stuff is getting improvements from tem |
| 02:12.45 | Chaud | my level 6 warrior on tich had a little of that |
| 02:12.52 | Paene | lucky dog! |
| 02:12.54 | Estil | tichondrious is not for you! |
| 02:12.55 | Chaud | but I left him logged out in the middle of a field |
| 02:12.59 | Paene | lol |
| 02:13.10 | Chaud | a bunch of people from my realm have alts there |
| 02:13.22 | Chaud | and now ~5 have level 70s there that they play when not doing arenas |
| 02:13.29 | Chaud | or raiding |
| 02:13.42 | Estil | I have an... alt... in argent dawn server |
| 02:13.45 | Estil | he's a lv 7 mage |
| 02:13.47 | Paene | lol |
| 02:13.55 | Paene | I have a druid on Detheroc |
| 02:13.56 | Antiarc | Interesting |
| 02:14.02 | Estil | since some of you know by now that my mains are on Blackrock |
| 02:14.07 | Paene | ~seen |
| 02:14.10 | Estil | you'd gues what guild he is in, and what race that mage is |
| 02:14.17 | Chaud | stay away from Gurubashi |
| 02:14.24 | Chaud | we don't need more alts |
| 02:14.31 | Estil | I was on that mage when Blackrock went down, and a guy in the guild told me |
| 02:14.31 | Paene | ~c |
| 02:14.31 | purl | rumour has it, c is for maniacs C code. C code run. Run, code, run. Please? |
| 02:14.37 | Estil | "You're LV 7? You've been here too long dude" |
| 02:14.38 | SumpinFishy | Any word on the raid join/leave freezing using pitbull/grid etc?? |
| 02:15.15 | Estil | it's ok Chaud, Blackrock players like rolling on RP servers only when BR goes down |
| 02:15.19 | Estil | they won't bother other PvP servers |
| 02:15.22 | Chaud | good. |
| 02:15.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 02:15.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Omen profiles |
| 02:15.32 | sag_ich_nicht | are kind of wonkey |
| 02:15.33 | xyu | SumpinFishy: are you using oRA2? |
| 02:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | how comes |
| 02:15.39 | Chaud | we have entirely too many people xfer / reroll on our realm |
| 02:15.42 | Chaud | it is unreasonable |
| 02:15.49 | Antiarc | Because I haven't registered the callbacks and need to |
| 02:15.57 | Estil | sounds like Blackrock |
| 02:16.00 | xyu | SumpinFishy: more specifically are you using Grid oRA2 raid layouts. |
| 02:16.08 | xyu | Disable that, and it fixed my prob. |
| 02:16.57 | Chaud | and about 9000 people play the AH, so I can't make much money from it anymore |
| 02:17.00 | SumpinFishy | Yes, major addons are grid/pitbull/ORA2/Prat2.0 and Elkbuffbars |
| 02:17.13 | Venara | so..i'm some german guy, don't blame me for spelling: is there anyone still here who can answer me a question concerning Omen? |
| 02:17.16 | Estil | should just do dailies |
| 02:17.17 | NivFreak | hrmm, tankpoints doesn't seem to take this new meta into account |
| 02:17.19 | xyu | no, do you have the "Grid oRA2 Layout" ? |
| 02:17.23 | xyu | it's a grid module |
| 02:17.24 | Chaud | I try to do ~10-15 a day |
| 02:17.39 | stavmar | even upon /rl I am getting the channel names to be reset to defaults? |
| 02:17.47 | stavmar | Antiarc: look above |
| 02:17.58 | Estil | I don't bother doing dailies on all my 70s |
| 02:18.01 | Estil | I just can't |
| 02:18.02 | SumpinFishy | I don't think so....either way, ity happened before grid....people balmed it on piutbull, so I got grid and completely disabled pitbull...same thing happenee |
| 02:18.09 | Groktar|Nescient | yay taunt reset at 15%! |
| 02:18.14 | Groktar|Nescient | *resist |
| 02:18.21 | Chaud | I only do them on my mage, doing them on sl/sl lock is slow and boring |
| 02:18.30 | Fix[EJ] | SumpinFishy: I really think it has something to do with rangecheck |
| 02:18.43 | Fix[EJ] | that thing was freaking my pitbull frames out earlier today |
| 02:18.44 | Zhinjio | Venara: ask your question |
| 02:18.44 | Estil | lol Chaud :( at least you do it on dps class |
| 02:18.50 | Estil | I do my dailies on a... resto druid and... disc priest |
| 02:18.55 | Estil | solo |
| 02:19.00 | Chaud | get a group =p |
| 02:19.25 | SumpinFishy | what can I or do I have to turn off to check it? |
| 02:19.26 | NeoTron | ~seen NivFreak |
| 02:19.28 | purl | nivfreak is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1103 messages. Is idling for 2m 11s, last said: 'hrmm, tankpoints doesn't seem to take this new meta into account'. |
| 02:19.34 | NeoTron | NivFreak: oh you're here |
| 02:19.43 | Chaud | if some healbot wanted to heal me I could just aoe down a ton of mobs and burn thorough some dailys |
| 02:19.44 | Venara | Zhinjio: Well i deleted Omen, cleaned up the savedvariables and reinstalled it. The AoE mode works in 5 man instances perfectly, but it doesn't work at all in a raid. do you, or somebody here, know why? |
| 02:19.46 | NeoTron | got that new targeting mechanism done for magic marker |
| 02:19.56 | NeoTron | although done ~= working completely with syncing |
| 02:20.19 | Estil | I guess |
| 02:20.23 | chiper | hey ckknight... |
| 02:20.28 | ckknight | hey |
| 02:20.29 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: I'm gonna let you field that one. *shrug* |
| 02:20.41 | chiper | cartographers you, right? |
| 02:21.32 | ckknight | sure is |
| 02:21.39 | ckknight | wanna see a tech preview for Cart3? |
| 02:21.42 | chiper | is there a way to get it to sort waypoints by proximity? |
| 02:21.49 | chiper | heh, maybe |
| 02:21.59 | kergoth | ooh, i want to see |
| 02:22.00 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:22.10 | ckknight | don't know about the waypoints module, I didn't really write much of that |
| 02:22.15 | Chaud | does it do amazing things |
| 02:22.25 | Chaud | go where no addon has gone before? |
| 02:22.25 | chiper | ah, ok |
| 02:22.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:15] <+Antiarc> Because I haven't registered the callbacks and need to <--i keel you! |
| 02:22.46 | ckknight | chiper: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/b4a71f3942973cd50fd52bd16703203a1c15600d.tar.gz |
| 02:22.56 | ckknight | and for kergoth, git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git |
| 02:23.18 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:23.21 | Chaud | does it work mostly? |
| 02:23.30 | chiper | k, I'll check that out later on |
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| 02:23.55 | ckknight | Chaud: "tech preview" |
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| 02:24.12 | Chaud | As long as game doesn't freeze or stop me from playing it "works mostly" =p |
| 02:24.23 | ckknight | well, you can't close it |
| 02:24.29 | ckknight | which I plan to fix. |
| 02:25.48 | Venara|zZz | mh, i'm gonna try later today :) |
| 02:26.24 | Venara|zZz | *wave* |
| 02:26.40 | Gnarfoz | Venara|zZz: n8 ^^ |
| 02:27.28 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Man, you're actually going through with the wowinsider interview? ;p |
| 02:27.44 | Chaud | rofl |
| 02:27.58 | Chaud | wowinsider makes me die a little inside |
| 02:28.06 | Kalroth | "WHY R U UPDATTING OMENS 19 TEIMS A DAY??? UR SUCK" |
| 02:28.21 | Antiarc | Kalroth: Alex is a guildmate of mine |
| 02:28.28 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 02:28.29 | Antiarc | So I give him stories to help him meet his quota |
| 02:28.40 | Chaud | Less fail tbh =( |
| 02:28.51 | Chaud | I can't wait to see how the next thing is dumbed down |
| 02:29.25 | Kalroth | Antiarc: That's fair enough, just make sure to reply with "None of your business." all the time! |
| 02:29.46 | Antiarc | hahah |
| 02:29.59 | Kalroth | "Can we get a clear answer to why we're getting updates 5 times a day? (Weekly update rollups would be great, IMO)" |
| 02:30.05 | Chaud | it is so bad but I can't stop reading it every once in a while |
| 02:30.09 | Kalroth | A clear answer, please!! |
| 02:30.20 | vithos | Antiarc: feature request for chatter: some way to shorten/hide "[#. channelname]: " in the editbox |
| 02:30.22 | Chaud | look at their UI of the week =\ http://www.wowinsider.com/photos/reader-ui-of-the-week-gallery/748541/full/ |
| 02:30.50 | [NR]Geck | *puke* |
| 02:31.01 | Chaud | it has xperl and bad textures |
| 02:31.11 | [NR]Geck | HE HAS THE EBB ANCHOR SHOWING.. lol?! |
| 02:31.11 | Chaud | and minimap in the center |
| 02:31.16 | durcyn | and unlocked elkbuffbars, quality |
| 02:31.21 | Gnarfoz | vithos: oh, I second that ;> |
| 02:31.22 | Kalroth | Chaud: The best part of that screenshot is the gchat guildname |
| 02:31.32 | kenlyric | look, that stuff isn't important. |
| 02:31.38 | kenlyric | fluff |
| 02:31.38 | Chaud | wowinsider awful UI of the week IMO |
| 02:31.45 | kenlyric | it's when they try to talk about raiding that's it's fail |
| 02:31.50 | Chaud | why do people have their minimap in the middle of their UI |
| 02:31.57 | Groktar|Nescient | omg |
| 02:32.09 | [NR]Geck | why do people insist on making big ugly bottombars? ._. |
| 02:32.14 | Groktar|Nescient | downloading audio drivers from asus site is going at 300KB/s |
| 02:32.15 | kenlyric | Chaud: cause that's where your eye is? |
| 02:32.17 | [NR]Geck | seems like a lazy way of giving a UI some "structure" |
| 02:32.26 | Groktar|Nescient | world first |
| 02:32.36 | Chaud | uh oh, look they did it in another weeks |
| 02:32.36 | Chaud | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/11/kirrina_solo.jpg |
| 02:32.57 | kenlyric | hah |
| 02:33.00 | kenlyric | sct defaults |
| 02:33.02 | Chaud | EBB anchor? check. |
| 02:33.03 | kenlyric | that's awesome |
| 02:33.07 | Gnarfoz | Groktar|Nescient: 300 KiB/s or 300 kbit/s? one is like 8 times of the other. |
| 02:33.29 | Chaud | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/09/1.jpg |
| 02:33.35 | Chaud | wth is that |
| 02:33.37 | Antiarc | http://www.orrery.ca/church/viewtopic.php?id=4278 |
| 02:33.44 | Groktar|Nescient | i did use capitals |
| 02:33.50 | Fix[EJ] | I can't figure out a decent layout that incorporates both a DM and proximo/omen |
| 02:33.55 | Groktar|Nescient | thought he was quite clear |
| 02:34.03 | Venara|zZz | since i'm not asleep yet and i'd like to here a comment on the topic |
| 02:34.08 | Venara|zZz | rate my interface http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot031208190319yb4.jpg ^^ |
| 02:34.31 | Chaud | not wowinsider worthy |
| 02:34.31 | Kalroth | Too boxed for my liking |
| 02:34.54 | stew_a | venara thats a nice interface |
| 02:35.05 | Gnarfoz | Groktar|Nescient: capitals don't differentiate that :\ anyway, I know asus, you can only have meant the high speed. slow as a crawl is their usual. xD |
| 02:35.10 | Kalroth | and why does people have to waste 10% of their screen space on buffs and their names :( |
| 02:35.15 | Chaud | chat is a bit wide, minimap is a bit big, could use a few less buttons, otherwise ok |
| 02:35.17 | Fix[EJ] | Once someone comes up with a UI that can be used in both raiding and arenas....let me know |
| 02:35.19 | Venara|zZz | thanks :) although it got a few tweaks with 2.4, screenshot is a few weeks old |
| 02:35.21 | Kalroth | It's not like the buffs changes names |
| 02:35.23 | Fix[EJ] | That is incredibly difficult to design |
| 02:35.31 | Chaud | Fix[EJ] it doesn't exist =p |
| 02:35.56 | [NR]Geck | http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8180/wowscrnshot041308195041ch5.jpg My UI at the moment =P |
| 02:35.58 | Chaud | Hal's is pretty decent with some modifications |
| 02:36.23 | [NR]Geck | Omen is 1 bar too tall, ignore that :( |
| 02:36.30 | stew_a | http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041408014902no5.jpg my interface is awful |
| 02:36.32 | Chaud | I couldn't use those UF for PvP |
| 02:36.33 | Silverstorm | alright...Archi down after 2 hours...and world server crashing |
| 02:36.48 | Groktar|Nescient | poops on archimonde's fase |
| 02:36.50 | Chaud | with the tiny mana bar =\ |
| 02:37.18 | [NR]Geck | Mine, Chaud? |
| 02:37.44 | Fix[EJ] | I don't get whats the point with display CurHP / MaxHP |
| 02:37.51 | Venara|zZz | [NR]Geck: what buff and raid frame addons do you use? |
| 02:37.52 | Chaud | yeah |
| 02:37.57 | Fix[EJ] | I have never once looked at that and had a sudden decision that affected my play |
| 02:38.01 | kenlyric | awww, kazzak didn't kill anyone else :( |
| 02:38.09 | Fix[EJ] | Give me percent or give me death! |
| 02:38.26 | Chaud | I like knowing how much they have left for some reason =\ |
| 02:38.27 | Kalroth | stew_a: holy, where's the game? |
| 02:38.32 | kenlyric | Fix[EJ]: are you a healer? |
| 02:38.34 | SumpinFishy | Well, it isn't range check...I have turned off range check on ORA, pitbull and grid...still does it |
| 02:38.35 | Chaud | also, how is this a UI of the week http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/09/nik2.jpg |
| 02:38.40 | Fix[EJ] | Nay |
| 02:38.48 | Fix[EJ] | Mage, who cares what my HP is |
| 02:38.49 | kenlyric | percentage doesn't do much for a healer |
| 02:38.54 | stew_a | kalroth: lol, thats what my guild said |
| 02:38.55 | Fix[EJ] | You think I'll iceblock? hahaha |
| 02:38.58 | [NR]Geck | raid frames are just pitbull, buff frames are just pBuff with a fancy gloss texture thrown on top :P |
| 02:39.01 | durcyn | Chaud: only submission. |
| 02:39.28 | Chaud | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/06/rui-chronnick-1.jpg LOL @ all of his bars |
| 02:39.53 | Kalroth | http://acdev.org/curr_ui.jpg <- that's almost how my UI looks today, this screenshot is like 6 months old or so :) |
| 02:40.03 | Venara|zZz | Chaud: i like that tiny unit frames xD |
| 02:40.14 | Fix[EJ] | Kalroth: I can't do UFs in the top left either |
| 02:40.19 | [NR]Geck | Still not happy with my UI, no matter what I do with it, I always have an urge to change it |
| 02:40.21 | Kalroth | Why not? |
| 02:40.21 | Fix[EJ] | Theres no way I'd IB if they were up there, haha |
| 02:40.43 | Chaud | Kalroth why not scale down that chat/bars? |
| 02:40.47 | Fix[EJ] | Its too far away from where I'm looking 90% of the time |
| 02:41.02 | Kalroth | Chaud: I have, I'm using a smaller font on my current UI |
| 02:41.20 | Chaud | wth is this http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/03/ps-040307-1.jpg |
| 02:41.36 | Kalroth | The layout is pretty much the same though, keep everything in a "circle" around the game view |
| 02:42.00 | stew_a | i like my game view in a circle in the middle of my interface :-) |
| 02:42.18 | Chaud | Fix[EJ] what are your issues with Hal's UI |
| 02:42.20 | Kalroth | stew_a: that's called a dot :P |
| 02:42.25 | Chaud | as far as being PvP viable |
| 02:42.51 | Fix[EJ] | I haven't seen what it looks like in an arena, but where would he put proximo! :P |
| 02:43.02 | kenlyric | you have a problem with bars! |
| 02:43.03 | Chaud | it is off to the right side of the screen |
| 02:43.04 | sdouble | everyone puts all this time and effort into their UI. Mine is very simple yet quite functional. http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/1381/wowscrnshot040808200624sc9.jpg |
| 02:43.13 | [NR]Geck | Hmm, just noticed that my buffs are kinda misaligned :/ |
| 02:43.16 | Chaud | bars spaced out pretty far |
| 02:43.21 | Chaud | similar to on caiths I think |
| 02:43.30 | Fix[EJ] | And his castbar placement isn't exaclt prime for a mage |
| 02:43.36 | [NR]Geck | the gap between temp enchant + the first buff is smaller than the gap between each buff D: |
| 02:43.36 | Chaud | sdouble why is everythig in that corner |
| 02:43.40 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r69665 10Omen/Modules/AOE/Localization/zhCN.lua: |
| 02:43.40 | CIA-39 | Omen: |
| 02:43.41 | CIA-39 | - zhCN update. |
| 02:43.58 | Kalroth | sdouble is left handed! |
| 02:43.58 | Chaud | and are you a clicker. |
| 02:44.01 | Fix[EJ] | And I just have a problem with "left side player and focus, right side target and tot" frame setup |
| 02:44.05 | stew_a | now that sct remembers to stay in fps independent mode, at leas theres a hole in the middle to see through :-) |
| 02:44.08 | Fix[EJ] | throws off the symmetry when you have no target |
| 02:44.13 | Fix[EJ] | I'm all about symmetry :[ |
| 02:44.16 | Chaud | use combat fader |
| 02:44.17 | sdouble | everything is in one spot |
| 02:44.28 | Chaud | to fade out the UF when not in combat/ have a target, ect |
| 02:44.29 | sdouble | so i can take care of it all without looking all over the place |
| 02:44.43 | Fix[EJ] | Plus, hal uses Pitbull, no? |
| 02:44.44 | Chaud | sdouble but then your UF are at the top? |
| 02:44.47 | sdouble | the bar changes on modifier |
| 02:44.56 | sdouble | warlock, I have no need for UF |
| 02:45.14 | Chaud | well, it looks like you don't pvp either so =\ |
| 02:45.24 | sdouble | I do pvp |
| 02:45.33 | Chaud | on a level 50 it doesn't matter =\ |
| 02:45.41 | sdouble | well, I have a 70 paladin that I play |
| 02:45.44 | Fix[EJ] | Chaud: http://sancus.off.net/loldogtags.jpg |
| 02:45.45 | sdouble | this one is just my enchanter |
| 02:45.55 | sdouble | same UI though |
| 02:45.58 | Chaud | Iknorite |
| 02:46.02 | Chaud | I bookmarked that this morning |
| 02:46.11 | Chaud | how in the world do you pvp on a paladin with that UI =\ |
| 02:47.51 | sdouble | What would I be missing?. The action bar is 4 pages, shift/ctr/alt = different pages |
| 02:47.55 | sdouble | everythign I need is there |
| 02:48.24 | Fix[EJ] | How can you watch your UFs and whats happening to your character at the same time :P |
| 02:49.11 | kenlyric | my issue with hiding my bars is that I change which abilities are bound to which keys all the time, and I'd forget. |
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| 02:50.37 | Fix[EJ] | I thik what I'll have to do |
| 02:50.45 | Fix[EJ] | is end up making two "profiles" essentially |
| 02:50.50 | Fix[EJ] | One for raiding and one for arenas. |
| 02:52.44 | Chaud | Fix[EJ] what class do you play |
| 02:52.52 | Fix[EJ] | mmmmmage. |
| 02:52.54 | CIA-39 | 03break19 * r69666 10FuBar_HonorFuPlus/ (. FuBar_HonorFuPlus.toc embeds.xml): (log message trimmed) |
| 02:52.54 | CIA-39 | FuBar_HonorFuPlus: |
| 02:52.54 | CIA-39 | - Hey Krevlorn, maybe next time you write an addon, |
| 02:52.54 | CIA-39 | - You should actually set up a proper embeds and externals |
| 02:52.55 | CIA-39 | - This addon, as you had it committed, could likely fail to work on |
| 02:52.55 | CIA-39 | - an embedded-only setup.. Oh, also.. if you dont actually -USE- Babble-2.2 |
| 02:52.59 | CIA-39 | - Maybe you shouldn't place it in the TOC as an embed, which causes updaters |
| 02:53.10 | Chaud | so how different can raiding UI be |
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| 02:53.27 | Chaud | turn on omen and a damage meter and go |
| 02:53.33 | break19 | meh |
| 02:53.53 | stew_a | found a better one of my ui http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot012108204410ef2.jpg first morro kill :-) |
| 02:54.03 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.18 | kenlyric | MURLOCS SOON |
| 02:54.23 | kenlyric | good thing you can't see them :) |
| 02:54.28 | kenlyric | they might be scary |
| 02:54.29 | Chaud | rofl |
| 02:54.37 | Chaud | xperl and titan |
| 02:54.41 | Chaud | WHAT A SUPRISE |
| 02:54.47 | Fix[EJ] | Chaud: Well, like I said, symmetry |
| 02:55.02 | Fix[EJ] | how do I balance DMs, Omen, Proximo, chatframes, minimap etc |
| 02:55.06 | Ellipsis | lol break19 |
| 02:55.10 | Fix[EJ] | ALSO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W63WG-KuoqE |
| 02:55.10 | Ellipsis | needs moar epic rant imo |
| 02:55.10 | break19 | his embeds.xml was the exact same one that you would get from a no-ext download of any addon.. and he had NO svn:externals set up.. not to mention he was optdepping & X-Embed'ing Babble-2.2 even tho he was using only LibBabble-*-3.0 stuff... */facepalm* |
| 02:55.14 | vithos | stew_a: you're joking right? |
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| 02:55.25 | stew_a | about what? |
| 02:55.34 | Chaud | lol look at the name |
| 02:55.35 | vithos | that screenshot |
| 02:55.39 | Chaud | I don't think so |
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| 02:56.00 | stew_a | no |
| 02:56.02 | Fix[EJ] | If you've seen the sony bravia "bouncing ball" commerical, you'll appreciate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W63WG-KuoqE |
| 02:56.13 | vithos | i'm so so sorry |
| 02:56.19 | CIA-39 | 03neotron * r69667 10MagicDKP/ (DefaultData.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: Added Gruul's and Magtheridon's Lairs to default zones, added Shadow of Leotheras (ignore) to SSC. |
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| 02:56.39 | break19 | Ellipsis: of course, it doesnt help that even the addon he copy/pasted from: HonorFu also has -it's- externals wrong... |
| 02:56.40 | Chaud | xperl+titan+ctmod should be made into a compilation of fail |
| 02:58.30 | Chaud | Fix[EJ] why isn't there a show your PvP UI thread on EJ =( |
| 02:58.43 | Fix[EJ] | Thats a good idea. |
| 02:58.48 | Fix[EJ] | I should start one, eh? |
| 02:58.56 | Chaud | I am hopefully adding one to mmo champ one day |
| 02:58.56 | break19 | Ellipsis: an example: libs/Deformat-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Deformat-2.0/ - it -should- be libs/Deformat-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Deformat/Deformat-2.0/ heh |
| 02:59.29 | Chaud | PvE UI's are cool to look at and all, but entirely useless as a PvPer for the most part |
| 02:59.41 | Fix[EJ] | Completely agreed |
| 02:59.51 | Fix[EJ] | They require two different focuses |
| 02:59.54 | Fix[EJ] | foci? |
| 02:59.59 | Fix[EJ] | whatever. |
| 03:00.02 | Chaud | focuesi =) |
| 03:00.27 | break19 | but I have a rule. I dont fix ck's fuckups... hehe. |
| 03:01.00 | Chaud | I forsee an PvEers saying that they use the same UI for both though |
| 03:01.12 | Chaud | when it is not suitable at all for PvP =\ |
| 03:01.43 | durcyn | break19: you need to relax |
| 03:02.12 | break19 | durcyn: oh please.. I -am- relaxed. lol |
| 03:04.35 | Chaud | rofl @ hal's UI update |
| 03:04.41 | Chaud | looks like easter colors or something |
| 03:05.07 | Fix[EJ] | I didn't know Hal was a media dude |
| 03:05.13 | Fix[EJ] | His main website has some cool videos |
| 03:05.41 | JoshBork1 | anyone have a screenshot of myBindings2? |
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| 03:05.56 | break19 | not I |
| 03:06.00 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:06.16 | Chaud | his UI is the best package I have seen for PvP so far |
| 03:06.17 | Cryect | If anyone ever needs to be told to relax its sag_ich_nicht |
| 03:06.20 | Chaud | after you change a few things |
| 03:06.31 | CIA-39 | 03neotron * r69668 10MagicDKP_Client/ (. embeds.xml): MagicDKP_Client: Externals |
| 03:06.31 | CIA-39 | 03seerah * r69669 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.toc: TagCompiler-1.0: reverting one of Scorpio0920's stupid toc bumps |
| 03:06.38 | JoshBorke | i have no idea what it even does |
| 03:06.44 | sag_ich_nicht | hai |
| 03:06.47 | sag_ich_nicht | you talkin to ME? |
| 03:07.00 | Chaud | no one ever talks to you willingly =O |
| 03:07.16 | `Nefarion | Is GetAddOnMetadata(...) (and similar functions) case-sensitive? |
| 03:07.17 | Cryect | I figured you be asleep! |
| 03:07.45 | haste | `Nefarion: that'a deadly easy for you to test |
| 03:08.00 | `Nefarion | haste: Can't logon to the game ATM. =( |
| 03:08.25 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 03:08.52 | haste | then a) wait util you can b) write around it until you know |
| 03:08.56 | break19 | JoshBorke: it just replaces the blizzard keybinding thing with another.. also prompts you if you attempt to rebind the same keystroke to a different command. |
| 03:09.10 | Gngsk | haste, c) ask in irc ? |
| 03:09.21 | JoshBorke | meh, how am i supposed to "support myBindings2" then? |
| 03:09.23 | haste | Gngsk: already done |
| 03:09.29 | Gngsk | :o |
| 03:09.38 | haste | Gngsk: and apparantly that didn't help much :) |
| 03:09.54 | Cryect | why would you be supporting myBindings2 if you don't know what it does? |
| 03:10.03 | JoshBorke | because someone asked me to :-P |
| 03:10.07 | break19 | JoshBorke: you dont need to "support" it. heh |
| 03:10.10 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:10.19 | break19 | that person is a 100% moron. :) |
| 03:10.24 | JoshBorke | hey! i have 84 downloads of a mod that was deleted off of wowi! |
| 03:10.28 | haste | coding around it is ~4 lines of code, so it shouldn't be an issue at all |
| 03:10.36 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8691-BindingsReminder.html |
| 03:10.38 | Cryect | you need to support addons by changing the TOC! |
| 03:10.51 | break19 | toc bumpage for all!@! |
| 03:11.08 | Cryect | hmmm thats a cool addon |
| 03:11.18 | Chaud | I hurd toc bumps r gud |
| 03:11.23 | JoshBorke | weird that i thought of it, huh? |
| 03:11.27 | break19 | has a bad day and changes the tocs of all addons to 101010 |
| 03:11.37 | JoshBorke | even weirder that i actually wrote it |
| 03:12.00 | Cryect | thought your account wasn't subscribed? |
| 03:12.44 | JoshBorke | it's not |
| 03:12.44 | Chaud | that's what friend's accounts arae for |
| 03:12.48 | JoshBorke | i borrowed a friend's account |
| 03:12.52 | Chaud | see =D |
| 03:12.53 | Cryect | and to get it out of the way! Is it ace'd!?! and if not it should be put on the WAU!!! :-p |
| 03:12.56 | Gngsk | yay! assessment was update! oh wait. |
| 03:12.58 | Cryect | heh |
| 03:13.09 | JoshBorke | Cryect: nope, not ace'd :-P |
| 03:13.20 | JoshBorke | but it does support multiple layouts |
| 03:13.21 | Cryect | By updated you mean someone reverted the TOC update of TagCompiler-1.0 :-p |
| 03:13.22 | JoshBorke | sorta |
| 03:13.38 | Cryect | hmmm, what do you mean by multiple layouts? |
| 03:13.42 | break19 | Cryect: nah. if you wanna ask it right, you gotta say "Iz it ACE'd?! It shud be!" |
| 03:13.46 | JoshBorke | i have a dvorak definition |
| 03:13.51 | Cryect | oh! |
| 03:14.15 | Cryect | man dvorak keyboard users must love default keybindings for games :-p |
| 03:14.15 | JoshBorke | it may be possible to support other locale keyboards, but...fuck 'em |
| 03:14.21 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 03:14.29 | JoshBorke | the hardest part is communication |
| 03:14.40 | JoshBorke | because you can leave it in qwerty mode but when you try to type you get fucked |
| 03:14.49 | JoshBorke | oh, that and slash commands are a bitch |
| 03:14.56 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r69670 10ButtonFacade/ (ButtonFacade.toc Localization/zhCN.lua): |
| 03:14.56 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 03:14.56 | CIA-39 | - Add zhCN locale |
| 03:15.21 | Cryect | yeah not sure I would want to try to switch to a dvorak keyboard now a days after like ~17+ years of being used to qwerty |
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| 03:15.40 | JoshBorke | geebus, were you a secretary before you worked on computers? :-P |
| 03:15.46 | Cryect | my typing speed is almost never my limitation |
| 03:15.56 | Cryect | no just been working on computers for that long since a little wee one |
| 03:15.56 | JoshBorke | i've been using dvorak/qwerty for about 5-6 years now |
| 03:16.15 | JoshBorke | wow, i can't believe it's been that long |
| 03:16.48 | Cryect | and like hell they had us learning typing in like 3rd grade in the school district I was at |
| 03:16.52 | Gngsk | Cryect, yes I'm fully aware how svn/wau work, but it's amusing to see the reactions of others who don't. :P |
| 03:16.54 | JoshBorke | 5th grade for me! |
| 03:17.44 | kenlyric | I was the last class to use IBM selectrics to learn typing |
| 03:17.45 | Silverstorm | heh, I was using a computer to learn my alphabet at 1-2 years old |
| 03:17.51 | kenlyric | the next year they got word processors |
| 03:17.53 | Silverstorm | and that was in 1985 or 1986 |
| 03:17.54 | break19 | I started using computers around age 5.. in the early 80s.. C64 :) |
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| 03:18.17 | Silverstorm | green monochrome monitors ftw |
| 03:18.24 | Cryect | heh |
| 03:18.27 | break19 | hah! we had a color monitor :) |
| 03:18.33 | Chaud | tell me you don't use that awful IBM noisy keyboard today =p |
| 03:18.36 | Silverstorm | we had a 16 color one |
| 03:18.37 | kenlyric | I used to plug my nes into my green monochrome monitor when the TV was occupied |
| 03:18.42 | kenlyric | awful? |
| 03:18.50 | kenlyric | that keyboard was the greatest gift ever given to mankind |
| 03:18.57 | Chaud | to use as a doorstop |
| 03:18.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 03:19.02 | kenlyric | key feedback ftw |
| 03:19.07 | sag_ich_nicht | SMASHES Chaud's head open with his Model M |
| 03:19.11 | Silverstorm | lol, if I hit someone with that keyboard we had, they'd probably suffer at least a serious concussion, if not die |
| 03:19.12 | sag_ich_nicht | don't you ever fucking insult my Model M again. |
| 03:19.15 | Chaud | I really HATE those keyboards |
| 03:19.16 | JoshBorke | anybody use SpellBinder or myBindings2 and mind seeing if my mod picks them up? |
| 03:19.19 | Cryect | you don't like the good old ibm keyboards? |
| 03:19.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ~kill Chambrln |
| 03:19.21 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxneutrino gun at Chambrln |
| 03:19.22 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 03:19.22 | kenlyric | Chaud: u r bad |
| 03:19.23 | Chaud | SO NOISY |
| 03:19.26 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry Chambrln |
| 03:19.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ~kill Chaud |
| 03:19.31 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse fluxgraviton gun at Chaud |
| 03:19.39 | Chaud | Someone that has one similar talks on vent |
| 03:19.42 | Chaud | and spams his keys |
| 03:19.45 | Chaud | and I want to kill him |
| 03:19.57 | break19 | *clickity clackity click click click* |
| 03:19.58 | Cryect | I also really liked the Gateway Anykey 2000 |
| 03:19.58 | JoshBorke | ok, night |
| 03:19.59 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly |
| 03:20.01 | sag_ich_nicht | kill yourself |
| 03:20.04 | CIA-39 | 03next96 * r69671 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: |
| 03:20.04 | CIA-39 | SharedMediaLib: |
| 03:20.04 | CIA-39 | - koKR return delete |
| 03:20.06 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 03:20.09 | sag_ich_nicht | model m is awesome |
| 03:20.09 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 03:20.11 | kenlyric | this one might be noisier http://steampunkworkshop.com/keyboard.shtml |
| 03:20.11 | Chaud | CLICK-CLICK-CLICK-CLICK-CLICK-CLICK-IM CYCLONED-CLICK-CLICK-CLICK-CLICK- |
| 03:20.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ot me |
| 03:20.36 | sag_ich_nicht | *not me |
| 03:20.41 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 03:20.43 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong channel |
| 03:20.44 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 03:20.49 | CIA-39 | 03next96 * r69672 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua: |
| 03:20.49 | CIA-39 | LibSharedMedia-2.0: |
| 03:20.49 | CIA-39 | - koKR return delete |
| 03:20.50 | kenlyric | I had a friend who got a case of 40 of them out of an isp she worked at |
| 03:20.55 | Cryect | Was fun playing with a programmable keyboard like a decade and half before the G15 :-p |
| 03:20.56 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric gimme |
| 03:20.57 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 03:21.08 | kenlyric | I ended up getting three, one didn't work though |
| 03:21.32 | breser | Calling the G15 programmable is kinda an insult to the term. |
| 03:21.36 | kenlyric | I use one at work on the server on my desk, hooked up to an old ps/2 monitor |
| 03:21.54 | Cryect | oh it isn't? I don't have a g15 just thought it supposedly was? |
| 03:21.59 | kenlyric | old schoolin |
| 03:22.10 | Cryect | thought it supported macros |
| 03:22.12 | breser | It's programmable if you consider that all the logic for that is in the driver. |
| 03:22.21 | Chaud | I want a g15 but it is a waste for me =\ |
| 03:22.36 | Cryect | heh so its really just a macro driver :-p |
| 03:22.46 | breser | Which means all the keyboard does is send a single signal to the computer and the driver expands it to whatever you set up in the software. |
| 03:22.58 | breser | There are only a handful of keyboards that actually do everything inside the keyboard. |
| 03:23.02 | Cryect | Good old anykey actually had a processor of some sort |
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| 03:23.15 | breser | Yup anykey was awesome. |
| 03:23.42 | breser | Everything since has been a pale immitation. |
| 03:23.45 | kenlyric | I just noticed that http://steampunkworkshop.com/keyboard.shtml used an old ibm keyboard as the base |
| 03:23.54 | Cryect | was sad when my anykey keyboard died in college :( |
| 03:24.40 | break19 | I want one of these to control my computer... http://www.neurosky.com/menu/main/technology/product_summary/ |
| 03:24.42 | kenlyric | http://steampunkworkshop.com/lcd.shtml |
| 03:24.44 | kenlyric | do want |
| 03:25.09 | Chaud | that would be fun for a while |
| 03:25.11 | break19 | meh.. I'd rather just think it.. like what I just linked can do.. :) |
| 03:25.11 | Chaud | then annoying |
| 03:25.44 | *** join/#wowace Apoco (i=Who@adsl-68-249-106-82.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) |
| 03:25.53 | CIA-39 | 03apoco * r69673 10RBM/DeBuffWatch/DeBuffWatch.lua: RBM: - De|BuffWatch: Update to use LibBabble-Spell-3.0 if you have it loaded and you arent an enUS client. |
| 03:25.53 | break19 | brainwave interface.. cool stuff |
| 03:25.56 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69674 10Chatter/Modules/ (ClickInvite.lua Highlight.lua UrlCopy.lua): |
| 03:25.56 | CIA-39 | Chatter: |
| 03:25.56 | CIA-39 | - Fix a couple of minor highlight bugs |
| 03:25.56 | CIA-39 | - Fix INV links in chat (like ChatIcons) provides |
| 03:26.06 | Cryect | Unless the computer can start thinking up the solution for me, I'm not that interested yet in brain interfaces |
| 03:26.29 | Chaud | "inv" finally =D |
| 03:26.32 | kenlyric | http://www.datamancer.net/projects/engine/computationalengine4.jpg |
| 03:27.05 | Cryect | alright I better buckle down and start coding widgets like crazy! |
| 03:27.06 | kenlyric | if the computer could think it up for you, it would have no need to interface with you. |
| 03:27.07 | Chaud | how do you replace that monitor |
| 03:27.11 | kenlyric | except maybe to use your body for fuel |
| 03:27.22 | break19 | Cryect: well, computers have a LONG way to go before we can get to the point where a CPU has even a third of the power that the brain is capable of. |
| 03:27.22 | kenlyric | Chaud: take it out? |
| 03:27.36 | Cryect | break19, we can have computers solve problems if the problem is well defined |
| 03:27.46 | Cryect | don't need the processing power of a brain for that |
| 03:28.20 | break19 | correct, but if you can define the problem well enough that a computer can solve it.... then you can likely solve it yourself. :) |
| 03:28.25 | kenlyric | most humans can't even do that |
| 03:28.31 | kenlyric | most humans can't even move out of fire |
| 03:28.32 | Chaud | sometimes takes a lot of time =\ |
| 03:28.32 | Cryect | and also uh 20-30 years is when computers are supposed to surpass the point of human processing |
| 03:28.42 | Chaud | THE FIRE SNEAKS UP ON YOU |
| 03:28.50 | Chaud | then attacks. |
| 03:29.02 | Cryect | break19, not really plenty of problems have been solved much better by genetic programs & algorithms |
| 03:29.27 | break19 | Cryect: problem is, we still arent even sure what the capabilities of the human brain -are- so any estimates regarding said power is, well.. pointless. :) |
| 03:29.43 | Chaud | silly computer can do math faster than me |
| 03:29.53 | [NR]Geck | Judging by the mental capacity of the average human, the capabilities of the human brain aren't that impressive. |
| 03:29.56 | kenlyric | brain interface is just so I don't have type anymore |
| 03:30.12 | Cryect | typing isn't particularly hard or very limiting for almost anything I do on a computer |
| 03:30.23 | Chaud | it is boring =\ |
| 03:30.31 | kenlyric | it's physically restrictive |
| 03:30.31 | Cryect | might make playing games more interesting when the technology gets better though |
| 03:30.37 | kenlyric | can't type while you're driving in a car |
| 03:30.41 | *** join/#wowace q0909 (n=chatzill@121.32.167.74) |
| 03:30.42 | Chaud | and can lead to dangerous things according to the sticker on the bottom of my keyboard |
| 03:30.49 | break19 | [NR]Geck: the average person uses 10-15% of their brain capacity, by most 'educated' guesses. |
| 03:31.07 | Cryect | your brain can't use 100% of its brain capacity at once unless you really want to pass out |
| 03:31.16 | Chaud | 10-15% sounds like a lot |
| 03:31.19 | Cryect | your brain processing is limited by flow of oxygen |
| 03:31.33 | Cryect | oh and sugars |
| 03:31.37 | kenlyric | 80% is for cooling |
| 03:31.39 | Cryect | but mainly the oxygen |
| 03:31.45 | Chaud | even if you come up with a way to exchange oxygen and nutrients faster |
| 03:31.49 | kenlyric | 5% is ESP |
| 03:31.51 | Chaud | how do you "use" more of your brain |
| 03:32.04 | kenlyric | i imagine by making it throb |
| 03:32.09 | kenlyric | if TV aliens are any indication |
| 03:32.16 | break19 | heh |
| 03:32.17 | Cryect | Chaud, through years of meditation you can expand "usage" etc |
| 03:32.21 | Cryect | not easily though |
| 03:32.49 | Cryect | and there is theories on how to increase the exchange rates through nanotechnology just no one knows how to produce the things yet :-p |
| 03:33.13 | kenlyric | who cares about all this shit |
| 03:33.14 | Chaud | so even if we could produce, it wouldn't matter |
| 03:33.18 | Cryect | Some of the designs in theory are amusing since they will let you do things as well like holding your breath for hours under water etc |
| 03:33.19 | kenlyric | I just want to watch movies in my head |
| 03:33.34 | break19 | kenlyric: I already do. |
| 03:33.41 | Chaud | rofl |
| 03:33.45 | kenlyric | those movies scare me |
| 03:33.46 | break19 | its called a daydream. :P |
| 03:33.53 | kenlyric | happy movies |
| 03:34.34 | Chaud | I had an odd dream a few nights ago for the first time in forever that I could remember =\ |
| 03:35.09 | break19 | i almost never remember my dreams, unless I am awoken in the middle of one. |
| 03:35.15 | Chaud | clearly need less sleep to avoid remembering them again |
| 03:35.39 | Chaud | I used to remember them a lot when I was younger and went to bed at like 8 or 9pm lol |
| 03:35.40 | kenlyric | that's typically how dreams work |
| 03:35.44 | kenlyric | have random shocks every hour |
| 03:35.46 | break19 | and then I'm usually pissed off because it was turning out to be a good dream, and then I get woke up before the good shit happens.. :/ |
| 03:35.48 | kenlyric | you'll remember a lot more |
| 03:35.55 | kenlyric | also, you might start to see things while you're awake |
| 03:36.17 | Chaud | I don't remember any good dreams recently =( |
| 03:37.02 | Arsonide | I'm stuck in WSG, I've tried leaving battleground 30 times, tried afking, tried logging out, closing the program, teleporting out. |
| 03:37.02 | Chaud | that is a bad dream =p |
| 03:37.02 | Arsonide | Now the minimap icon even disappeared. :( |
| 03:37.03 | Chaud | put in the GM ticket and do dailys on an alt? |
| 03:37.08 | break19 | its the gnomes. |
| 03:37.31 | break19 | they've decided to take over your character and force it to farm honor for them. |
| 03:37.32 | fooxor | i always dream of a device to hit people in the face over the internet! |
| 03:37.33 | Arsonide | gnomes? |
| 03:37.49 | Chaud | little menz. |
| 03:39.59 | AbsoRayne | http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F041308%5F201413.png The bar texture, yes / no? |
| 03:40.42 | break19 | one last rant before I go to bed.. Why in the world do authors continue using deprecated libs to write -new- addons? |
| 03:40.42 | Chaud | freewebs is still around |
| 03:40.50 | xyu | EavesDrop Error: http://ace.pastey.net/85718 Happens when trying to paste a line of text with a Raid icon in it. Example "Xyu heals (triangle)SoandSo for X dmg" |
| 03:40.51 | Chaud | and still amazingly slow |
| 03:40.55 | Chaud | l2imageshack =\ |
| 03:41.20 | durcyn | eh, the texture is tolerable, but that font has to go |
| 03:41.20 | AbsoRayne | Chaud: Im going to just get my own webspace soon. |
| 03:41.44 | CIA-39 | 03neotron * r69675 10MagicMarker/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MagicMarker: Added new much smarter markign method - needs to be enabled explicedly to use. |
| 03:41.45 | Chaud | I used to have my own when I helped out with a hosting company =\ |
| 03:41.50 | Chaud | now I have imageshack. |
| 03:41.54 | Chaud | =( |
| 03:42.05 | CIA-39 | 03neotron * r69676 10FuBar_MagicMarker/MMFu.lua: FuBar_MagicMarker: Changes to make it work with the new experimental marking system. |
| 03:42.12 | AbsoRayne | I have a Photobucket, but PNGs get resized, and JPGs have terrible quality |
| 03:42.13 | NeoTron | NivFreak: go at it |
| 03:42.25 | Chaud | photobucket fails |
| 03:42.28 | Chaud | go imageshack! =p |
| 03:42.36 | Chaud | bar textures are ok, might want to try a different one on castbar |
| 03:42.37 | break19 | <3 tinypic |
| 03:43.06 | break19 | tinypic = the pastey of jpgs |
| 03:43.34 | Fisker- | also |
| 03:43.34 | AbsoRayne | Oh yeah, I didnt redo the Cast Textures, thanks for reminding me |
| 03:43.35 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 03:44.21 | Chaud | rly? |
| 03:45.09 | AbsoRayne | Srsly. |
| 03:47.08 | Groktar|Nescient | i think my gm doesn't want to kill brutallus |
| 03:47.13 | Groktar|Nescient | bring 3 hunters |
| 03:47.17 | Groktar|Nescient | none in melee group |
| 03:47.20 | Groktar|Nescient | only 1 shadow priest |
| 03:47.20 | fooxor | Chaud: imageshack just redefines the word slow :X |
| 03:47.28 | Chaud | imageshack is fast for me =\ |
| 03:47.54 | Chaud | are there any decent media players besides bsplayer that allow the movie in a single window with no controls, and have overlay mode |
| 03:47.56 | Megalon | for me, in the last months |
| 03:48.01 | Megalon | it just fails me terribly :( |
| 03:48.04 | Antiarc | I use VLC |
| 03:48.27 | Megalon | MPC does as well |
| 03:48.41 | CIA-39 | 03Krevlorn * r69677 10FuBar_HonorFuPlus/ (HonorFuPlus.lua HonorFuPlusLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_HonorFuPlus: fixed localization |
| 03:48.46 | Xelo | First pull on eradar twins... going in blind >< |
| 03:48.52 | Arrowmaster | MPC > * (other than maybe mplayer) |
| 03:48.59 | Xelo | ^ ^ |
| 03:49.19 | Chaud | vlc doesn't have it in a single window though =\ |
| 03:49.24 | Chaud | like seperate from controls |
| 03:49.39 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 03:49.47 | Arrowmaster | you want the controls in a seperate window? |
| 03:50.55 | Megalon | seperate window for controls? don't know if you can do that with mpc though |
| 03:51.19 | *** join/#wowace Calada (n=chatzill@bb116-14-37-33.singnet.com.sg) |
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| 03:52.54 | CIA-39 | 03slake333 * r69678 10Expiration/ (Expiration.lua Expiration.toc changelog.txt): (log message trimmed) |
| 03:52.54 | CIA-39 | Expiration: 2.2.0 |
| 03:52.54 | CIA-39 | - Grouped configuration options together into a subcommand |
| 03:52.54 | CIA-39 | - Added the 'deaths' command, which lists the available reports in the last specified amount of minutes |
| 03:52.54 | CIA-39 | 2.1.0 |
| 03:52.55 | CIA-39 | - Added a shorter slash command: '/exp' |
| 03:52.56 | *** join/#wowace HaMBo (n=hambo@121.15.171.99) |
| 03:52.59 | CIA-39 | - Added the 'refresh' command, which updates the unit tracking tables if (in rare cases) they are out of date |
| 03:54.19 | Chaud | yes |
| 03:54.46 | Chaud | this is an old shot, but shows you the idea http://ratdvd.ca/images/BSPlayer.jpg |
| 03:55.22 | Chaud | I drag the movie window to the corner, resize it, put it on overlay, and watch it while wow is fullscreen mode |
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| 03:57.43 | Olison | ~seen speeddymon |
| 03:57.49 | purl | speeddymon <i=TomSpear@tera-24-206-151-175.kw.tx.cebridge.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 103d 14h 52m 13s ago, saying: 'i gotta go'. |
| 03:58.00 | Olison | that you did. |
| 04:00.13 | xyu | ~seen Grayhoof |
| 04:00.14 | purl | xyu: i haven't seen 'grayhoof' |
| 04:00.17 | xyu | :( |
| 04:01.00 | Chaud | Need moar proximo |
| 04:01.08 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r69679 10/branches/5MQuanQuan/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 04:01.08 | CIA-39 | 5MQuanQuan: |
| 04:01.08 | CIA-39 | - Add support with AceDBOptions-3.0 |
| 04:01.08 | CIA-39 | - Minor bugs fix |
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| 04:05.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 04:06.55 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r69680 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 04:06.55 | CIA-39 | Skinner: |
| 04:06.55 | CIA-39 | - zhCN update. |
| 04:07.19 | CIA-39 | 03next96 * r69681 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua: |
| 04:07.19 | CIA-39 | LibSharedMedia-2.0: |
| 04:07.19 | CIA-39 | - sorry revert koKR ;( |
| 04:07.40 | Ackis | while(1) facepalm |
| 04:08.00 | Ackis | I miss Speeddymon =/ |
| 04:09.10 | CIA-39 | 03next96 * r69682 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: |
| 04:09.10 | CIA-39 | SharedMediaLib: |
| 04:09.10 | CIA-39 | - sorry revert koKR ;( |
| 04:09.22 | Chaud | people fail |
| 04:09.30 | Chaud | I queued for a skrimish and faced double rogue team =\ |
| 04:09.37 | Fisker- | ooooowned |
| 04:09.39 | Chaud | I need casters to test proximo castbars |
| 04:09.43 | ckknight | Ackis: ? |
| 04:09.47 | Chaud | We stomped them though |
| 04:09.51 | Chaud | pally/fire mage rofl |
| 04:10.08 | Gngsk | chaud, let 'em bandage |
| 04:10.43 | Chaud | dont think that shows up |
| 04:11.03 | Nandini | it's a channeled spell |
| 04:12.30 | Chaud | got moonkin / resto shammy =\ |
| 04:12.38 | Chaud | they casted maybe 1 time to kill me somehow |
| 04:12.48 | *** join/#wowace Fritz (n=UPP@ip72-198-32-39.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 04:13.13 | Chaud | oh god |
| 04:13.22 | Chaud | got a shammy with a caster DPS staff |
| 04:13.24 | Chaud | on my team |
| 04:13.29 | JJSheets | lol |
| 04:13.35 | Fritz | Can someone help me with a quick hack? I'm trying to get Afflicted's interrupt alert to only display the icon of the spell I interrupted in the middle of the screen. The problem is the icon seems to attach to a message, so while I can make it show only the spell school and icon, or the person I interrupted's name and spell icon, I can't get it to show just the spell icon. |
| 04:14.01 | Fritz | self:SendMessage(string.format(L["Interrupted %s's %s (%s)"], destName, extraSpellName, spellSchools[extraSpellSchool] or ""), self.db.profile.interruptDest, self.db.profile.interruptColor, extraSpellID) |
| 04:14.36 | Chaud | we won! |
| 04:14.42 | Fritz | That's the full line of code, anyway, unaltered. |
| 04:14.44 | Chaud | 2v1 ret pally =\ |
| 04:14.49 | Fritz | Is there a way to get it to send a blank message? |
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| 04:15.36 | Fritz | I'm not sure how the spell icon appendature works, but this worked with it, which is what I was using before. I decided displaying the spell school was no longer necessary since I installed Spellbreak which displays that on a bartimer |
| 04:15.38 | Fritz | self:SendMessage(spellSchools[extraSpellSchool], self.db.profile.interruptDest, self.db.profile.interruptColor, extraSpellID) |
| 04:16.42 | Nandini | what happens if you use self:SendMessage(" ", self.db.profile.interruptDest, self.db.profile.interruptColor, extraSpellID) |
| 04:16.55 | Fritz | Well I tried it with "" but I didn't try it with " " |
| 04:17.32 | Nandini | its SendMessage might not like empty strings |
| 04:17.43 | Fritz | Let me try it out. |
| 04:18.25 | Chaud | what kind of luck is this |
| 04:18.31 | Chaud | get feral druid/rogue next time |
| 04:18.33 | Chaud | wtb casters |
| 04:18.51 | Nandini | the feral druid never popped out to CC? |
| 04:19.03 | Fritz | It didn't work. |
| 04:19.14 | Fritz | So yeah it seems to dislike empty strings. |
| 04:19.14 | Chaud | I need more than like 1 cast |
| 04:19.16 | *** join/#wowace Vecnah (n=vec@vecna.vecnix.net) |
| 04:19.31 | Fritz | Is there a way to trick it into sending nothing? |
| 04:20.03 | Nandini | hmm maybe self:SendMessage("\160", self.db.profile.interruptDest, self.db.profile.interruptColor, extraSpellID) |
| 04:21.12 | CIA-39 | 03totalpackage * r69683 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua): |
| 04:21.12 | CIA-39 | Cellular |
| 04:21.12 | CIA-39 | - minor cleanups |
| 04:21.12 | CIA-39 | - added option to always minimize new windows |
| 04:21.12 | CIA-39 | - reduced height/width limits |
| 04:21.13 | Fritz | That gave me a question mark |
| 04:21.47 | Nandini | that's a good start, just have to figure out the sequence for a non breaking space, not sure what that is off the top of my head |
| 04:22.13 | Fritz | How would I find out? |
| 04:22.19 | Fritz | Is it an alt code? |
| 04:23.02 | Fritz | "You can create a non-breaking space by holding the Alt key and typing 0160 on the number pad." |
| 04:23.27 | Chaud | god those double rogues are bad |
| 04:23.33 | Chaud | beat them as mage/spriest |
| 04:27.37 | Nandini | Fritz: try "\194\160" |
| 04:27.45 | Nandini | i forgot this is unicode |
| 04:28.30 | Fritz | k 1 sec |
| 04:30.15 | Megalon | does \194\160 get deleted by string.trim? |
| 04:31.15 | Fritz | Yes that works |
| 04:32.16 | Megalon | well then apperently it doesn't :> |
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| 04:34.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 04:36.06 | Chaud | god I hate my realm |
| 04:36.11 | Chaud | everyone and their mom plays the AH |
| 04:36.35 | Nandini | leaving you unable to dominate it? how unfair :P |
| 04:36.40 | Ackis | ping Funkeh' |
| 04:36.48 | Chaud | I let my friend borrow 2.5k for epic flyer |
| 04:36.51 | Chaud | he paid back 1k |
| 04:36.55 | Chaud | and spent the rest playing AH |
| 04:37.02 | Chaud | so now has no gold and ton of mats =\ |
| 04:37.11 | Chaud | along with everyone else on the realm |
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| 04:37.31 | Nandini | they just made a bunch of gold farmers very happy :) |
| 04:39.50 | xyu | what? really? |
| 04:40.03 | xyu | Chaud: it's opposite on my realm. mats are selling for big cash right now |
| 04:40.07 | xyu | because of the badge vendor |
| 04:40.16 | xyu | i think primals are going for like 30-40g each |
| 04:40.27 | stavmar | Are there certain fonts that might eliminate teh tags above an NPCs or players head in game? |
| 04:40.32 | xyu | green gems are like 5g a piece now |
| 04:40.33 | Fix[EJ] | Chaud: do you have a shot of your UI :P |
| 04:40.35 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69684 10Chatter/Modules/PlayerNames.lua: Chatter: Fix "Report Spam" button |
| 04:41.09 | Nandini | stavmar: do you mean the text shown as a player's guild name or an NPCs tag? |
| 04:41.26 | Chaud | just somewhat modified Hal's |
| 04:41.28 | stavmar | nadas: both, I am seeing no names, and my interface options are set to see them |
| 04:41.38 | stavmar | Nandini: sorry |
| 04:41.46 | Chaud | mana bars a bit bigger, boxes/bars moved to the bottom, proximo a little smaller, ect |
| 04:42.07 | Chaud | xyu nothing is selling on our AH |
| 04:42.14 | Chaud | and we are high pop, free xfers off |
| 04:42.17 | xyu | weird, did people over farm? |
| 04:42.21 | xyu | same |
| 04:42.26 | xyu | well our free xfers are gone |
| 04:42.28 | Nandini | stavmar: it's possible their font has been set to zero alpha, but the only addon i know that would even attempt that is ClearFont2 |
| 04:42.33 | xyu | but we're "locked" or "full" pop |
| 04:42.40 | Nandini | since changing that font can taint things in combat i think |
| 04:42.47 | stavmar | Nandini: that is what i am using |
| 04:42.53 | Chaud | some things went down in price afer badge vendor |
| 04:43.04 | Chaud | becuase everyone playing the AH put their mats up |
| 04:43.06 | stavmar | Nandini: let me check the .lua to see if i can find where the alpha is set |
| 04:43.13 | Chaud | reallly annoying |
| 04:43.24 | xyu | i don't play the AH, so i wish that were true here. |
| 04:43.25 | Nandini | stavmar: have you edited CF2's lua files manually to change the settings of any font styles? |
| 04:43.32 | xyu | i need 4x more primal mights >_< |
| 04:43.33 | stavmar | yup |
| 04:44.47 | stavmar | not seeing the alpha setting in teh core file? |
| 04:44.58 | stavmar | any where else I should look? |
| 04:45.14 | Nandini | chances are, you accidnentally set the alpha to zero for that text then. i don't think it's been completely safe to change the parent fontobject for player/npc name text since 2.1, it's safer to just replace the default font file itself |
| 04:45.14 | xyu | i need to steal someone elses UI. i'm tired of mine. |
| 04:45.55 | stavmar | Nandini: That is what I did |
| 04:45.56 | Nandini | i don't use CF2, so i can't tell you exactly where in its code that the fontobject for playernames would be set, but if it's in there, it should be commented out by default |
| 04:46.17 | stavmar | ooh |
| 04:46.59 | Nandini | if another font file works for you, it could be the font you're trying to use is too complex for the truetype rasterizer built in to wow (or has incorrect metrics) |
| 04:48.15 | Nandini | there are plenty of freeware fonts that don't adhere strictly enough to the truetype specification for wow's tt rasterizer to choke on them |
| 04:48.17 | stavmar | this is the first style font I have had issues with |
| 04:48.30 | stavmar | i understand what you are saying |
| 04:48.41 | stavmar | thank you for your information |
| 04:48.51 | Nandini | i think wow uses FreeType1 as its rasterizer |
| 04:49.20 | CIA-39 | 03cryect 072.4 * r69685 10Recount2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:49.20 | CIA-39 | Recount2: |
| 04:49.20 | CIA-39 | - Adds CheckBox widget |
| 04:49.20 | CIA-39 | - To create CheckBoxes Recount2.Widgets:CreateCheckbox(parent, width, height, text, [compositeID, flagValue]) where compositeID represents a variable that gets sets/remove the specified flag value on checking |
| 04:49.20 | CIA-39 | - Recount2.Widgets:GetCompositeCheckValue(compositeID) returns the value of a specified composite ID of flags |
| 04:49.25 | Nandini | they may have upgraded it to FreeType2 for better opentype support when they started doing the asian clients |
| 04:49.45 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69686 10Chatter/Modules/EditBox.lua: Chatter: Allow user to set the edit box font face. |
| 04:49.55 | Nandini | i don't think freetype2 was around though when wow was first being developed |
| 04:52.34 | Nandini | i'm pretty impressed though that it will create a new set of pixmaps on the fly if a fontstring gets scaled |
| 04:53.45 | Nandini | i wish we had more direct access to it, then we could do things like rotated text |
| 04:53.46 | Cryect | It does? |
| 04:54.20 | Cryect | When they change it so the fontstring's images get change on scaling? |
| 04:54.25 | Nandini | Cryect: it's definitely not just a low-rez pixmap scaled up or high-rez one scaled down, i've noticed metrics change at different scales |
| 04:54.47 | Cryect | The image is set when you set the font size |
| 04:54.47 | Nandini | which means it must have been re-rasterized |
| 04:54.52 | AbsoRayne | Wow...I am LOVING this pixel font. @_@ |
| 04:54.58 | Cryect | I've ran into issues with scaling |
| 04:55.14 | Nandini | yes, as long as you don't reset the "pixel size" and just scale the object, it seems to re-rasterize to me |
| 04:55.17 | Cryect | if I scale I lost pixels or its get pixelly if you increase |
| 04:55.27 | Cryect | or thats what I used to run into |
| 04:55.46 | Nandini | yeah i seem to remember it used to do that too, but try scaling a fontstring's underlying frame up to 800% |
| 04:56.00 | Cryect | Hmm yeah I see it does rerasterize for that one |
| 04:56.00 | Nandini | without explicitly changing anything on the fontstring |
| 04:56.10 | Cryect | Nice, was so used to it not |
| 04:56.24 | Nandini | i know, it used to be so ugly, but thinking back, i can't remember exactly when it changed |
| 04:57.08 | Cryect | Hmmm when did they add add antialiasing to the fonts as well? |
| 04:57.26 | Cryect | Now that I have a scaled up one and scaled down fontstring I notice that |
| 04:57.35 | Nandini | they've always been antialiased for me, unless that was just a compositing artifact of the old renderer |
| 04:57.47 | Cryect | That was from the bilinear filtering |
| 04:57.50 | Cryect | Er wait |
| 04:57.54 | Cryect | no it wasn't bilinear |
| 04:58.00 | Cryect | So yeah they must have always had them |
| 04:58.04 | Cryect | nm |
| 04:58.21 | Nandini | the default fonts just aren't tuned well for on-screen rendering in the first place, that's a lot of their problem |
| 04:58.42 | Cryect | Arial Narrow isn't bad |
| 04:58.50 | Cryect | But yeah the rest the fonts aren't so good |
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| 04:59.08 | Nandini | arial narrow was heavily tweaked by MS when they included it in office 97 for on-screen legibility |
| 04:59.14 | Cryect | right |
| 04:59.15 | Nandini | it has some of the first examples of TT hinting |
| 04:59.39 | Cryect | You would hope a font that is so heavily used by MS would be quite legible on the screen |
| 04:59.45 | Cryect | still not my favorite narrow font |
| 04:59.54 | Nandini | MS's font designers are actually very talented |
| 05:00.01 | Cryect | I like ABF personally |
| 05:00.11 | Nandini | they're one of the few departments who play nicely with apple and adobe, too :) |
| 05:00.35 | Nandini | i use the version of Segoe Condensed that came with Windows Mobile 6 |
| 05:01.32 | Cryect | heh anyways I better get back to work on radio button widget! |
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| 05:02.23 | Nandini | i wonder how many younger people now realize what the true mechanical origin of radio buttons was :) |
| 05:02.33 | Nandini | "push one preset in, the rest pop out!" |
| 05:03.02 | Cryect | Hmm, trying to think of something i still have that has them |
| 05:03.06 | Nandini | i remember breaking more than one radio as a kid trying to push two buttons in at the same time |
| 05:03.23 | Cryect | tape recorders were the last thing I think I've had with them |
| 05:03.28 | Nandini | not fun getting permanently tuned to 540 AM |
| 05:03.33 | Cryect | haha |
| 05:03.53 | Silverstorm | lol, I remember those days |
| 05:06.33 | xyu | Zeksie: ZOMG error, latest update http://ace.pastey.net/85720 happened when i buffed someone. (mage) |
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| 05:06.43 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69687 10Chatter/Chatter.lua: Chatter: Add "Chatter Settings" button to the chat frame context menu. |
| 05:06.47 | DARKGuy | o/ |
| 05:07.11 | DARKGuy | sweet, sweet! |
| 05:09.45 | AbsoRayne | wow that was wierd... |
| 05:10.12 | AbsoRayne | I changed the font on ClassTimer, and my game just went to lagville |
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| 05:10.47 | Fritz | Hey has a diminishing returns addon surfaced since 2.4 besides ProxDim? |
| 05:10.49 | Nandini | did changing it back fix your lag? |
| 05:11.21 | Fritz | I know NECB is updated but the problem is it's a package deal and it displays a lot of crap that's handled by my other mods already - and the big problem is, when I seperate cast bar types, surprise surprise, diminishing returns are in a seperate category from 'debuffs' |
| 05:12.26 | AbsoRayne | Nandini: Restarting WoW fixed it |
| 05:12.48 | AbsoRayne | But it reverted the font |
| 05:12.52 | AbsoRayne | so let me see if it does it again |
| 05:16.44 | Orionshock | is it me or is omen with low lvl hunter just fubar'ed? |
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| 05:18.07 | AbsoRayne | odd, didnt do it again |
| 05:19.02 | omeow | Antiarc: I've got a feature request for omen. Would you mind adding a "show when I'm in an instance" option? I would add it myself, but I think it would take longer for me to get an SVN account than it takes to implement the feature. |
| 05:20.24 | durcyn | at which point you'd still have to ask antiarc, because ninja-committing code to others' addons isn't encouraged |
| 05:20.26 | omeow | You can just use the http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsInInstance function to check if a user is. |
| 05:20.37 | omeow | + in an instance. |
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| 05:22.36 | omeow | Yea, you're probably right durcyn. |
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| 05:23.18 | kadrahil | hm |
| 05:23.23 | Orionshock | omeow: could just do it, and then send him a diff |
| 05:23.34 | kadrahil | do people still bother levelling their paladins prot in the mid levels anymore since you don't really have to grind now? |
| 05:27.38 | WobWork | crazy levelling is crazy |
| 05:30.40 | omeow | Hm, I hadn't thought of that, Orionshock. |
| 05:31.08 | Orionshock | common method with coding wrt a version control |
| 05:31.11 | omeow | Gotta work first though. Bye. |
| 05:34.18 | DARKGuy | Hm, anybody here has a warrior? how do you switch stances without using the mouse oO? |
| 05:34.57 | Nandini | use the keybindings assigned to 'special action bar' |
| 05:36.07 | DARKGuy | Nandini, mmm interesting, thanks :3 |
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| 05:49.28 | AbsoRayne | Whats a good image upload site that wont rape my photo quality? |
| 05:54.10 | DARKGuy | imageshack? photobucket? |
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| 05:58.16 | Olison | tinypic! |
| 05:58.40 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r69688 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_ButtonTypes.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Pet the peticons table at the top of the IB_ButtonTypes.lua file, fixing a bug on line 257. Also did some extra work on Cooldowns, which hopefully will respond more correctly. |
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| 06:05.18 | CIA-39 | 03cryect 072.4 * r69689 10Recount2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 06:05.18 | CIA-39 | Recount2: |
| 06:05.18 | CIA-39 | - Adds a radio button widget |
| 06:05.18 | CIA-39 | - .Widgets:CreateRadioButton(parent, width, height, text, radioID, radioValue) |
| 06:05.18 | CIA-39 | will create a radio button with the specified properties. radioID is the |
| 06:05.18 | CIA-39 | grouping it will be with and radioValue is the value it sets for that grouping |
| 06:05.20 | CIA-39 | when its selected |
| 06:06.17 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r69690 10ZOMGBuffs/ (ZOMGBuffs.lua ZOMGModulePrototype.lua): ZOMGBuffs: Oops. Error in error checking.. |
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| 06:23.15 | Arsonide | Is there any way for a macro to check if I have arcane powder? |
| 06:23.52 | Arsonide | I would like to arcane brilliance if in a group and have the reagents, AI myself if nothing is targetted or AI my friendly target. |
| 06:24.00 | Arsonide | No modifiers or buttons |
| 06:24.31 | Jaxon | Arsonide: I don't think so |
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| 06:24.58 | WobWork | You could try using a fallthrough, as the AB will fail without a reagent |
| 06:25.09 | WobWork | not sure if it will actually work though without testing |
| 06:26.35 | durcyn | you could macro something to check GetNumPartyMembers.. does CastSpellByName still work out of combat? |
| 06:26.57 | AbsoRayne | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/92f9796817667d344eb46fa53a2f8299.png Thoughts on the Font? First time using a pixel font |
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| 06:29.33 | DARKGuy | AbsoRayne, too small for my display IMO,but if you can read like that, I like it <3 |
| 06:30.15 | DARKGuy | what font is that, btw? |
| 06:31.01 | AbsoRayne | Its called SilkScreen |
| 06:31.34 | DARKGuy | it's pretty heh |
| 06:31.49 | DARKGuy | I've found out that some Windows visual styles have some nice small fonts around |
| 06:33.07 | Arsonide | Hey I downloaded a compilation a while ago and my scrolling combat text is a different font now, it's cartoonish, I'd like to change it if possible but /sct isn't pulling up as a command so it can't be installed. |
| 06:33.17 | Arsonide | What mod has hijacked my combat text? |
| 06:33.29 | AbsoRayne | Was is MSBT? |
| 06:34.06 | Arsonide | it is primarily Ace mods |
| 06:34.09 | Arsonide | sec I'll look |
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| 06:34.27 | Arsonide | don't see anything like that in the Ms |
| 06:35.13 | ramoz | /sct menu |
| 06:35.49 | AbsoRayne | Updating a mod will sometimes clear the LUAs of custom fonts, so youll lose your settings. :/ |
| 06:35.52 | CIA-39 | 03cryect 072.4 * r69691 10Recount2/ (GUI_Details.lua GUI_Table.lua): |
| 06:35.52 | CIA-39 | Recount2: |
| 06:35.52 | CIA-39 | -Detail Window now will show the selected entry in each section as highlighted green |
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| 06:36.56 | Arsonide | ramoz: SCT is not installed. |
| 06:36.59 | Arsonide | I tried that command |
| 06:37.05 | DARKGuy | Hmm, what is a good addon to see the memory/cpu usage of my addons ? |
| 06:37.32 | Gngsk | optionhouse! |
| 06:37.53 | DARKGuy | oh yeah, I knew it was option something |
| 06:38.00 | DARKGuy | too bad it isn't in WAU |
| 06:38.07 | DARKGuy | searches for it, thanks Gngsk ^^ |
| 06:38.14 | Gngsk | yw |
| 06:39.07 | Cheads | heh, my browser won't let me enter wowui.incgamers.com: This web site at wowui.incgamers.com has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences. |
| 06:39.08 | ramoz | Arsonide: then i can be Parrot or Mikes |
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| 06:42.18 | Jaxon | Cheads: well, that is freakin' hilarious. |
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| 06:42.35 | Cheads | =) |
| 06:42.52 | DARKGuy | lol Cheads |
| 06:42.57 | ramoz | waaah 6m queue at wws =( |
| 06:43.00 | CIA-39 | 03cryect 072.4 * r69692 10Recount2/GUI_Table.lua: |
| 06:43.00 | CIA-39 | Recount2: |
| 06:43.00 | CIA-39 | -Bug fix for an issue where source GUID and target GUID were no longer working (related to selection clearing) |
| 06:46.12 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 06:46.59 | ramoz | so Antiarc, did that last commit clear the white-loot issues? |
| 06:52.01 | SkorcherX | hello |
| 06:52.39 | SkorcherX | on top of my quartz casting bar i have some timers.. i would like to remove these and i cannot figure out if its quarts to blame or another addon, here is a screenshot. |
| 06:52.40 | SkorcherX | http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot041308234934hw6.jpg |
| 06:52.55 | Jaxon | That is Quartz |
| 06:53.29 | ramoz | SkorcherX: its Quartz_Buffs |
| 06:53.32 | ramoz | just disable that module |
| 06:54.10 | SkorcherX | thank you. |
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| 06:56.31 | xyu | or you could keep it, and remove that other one doing the same thing on the right :D |
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| 06:57.21 | Arsonide | can Skinner change the font of scrolling combat text? |
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| 06:57.36 | Arsonide | I don't have MSBT or Parrot or SCT, but I have a different font on the text. |
| 06:57.37 | DARKGuy | SCT has its own options for changing the font |
| 06:57.47 | DARKGuy | mmm wait |
| 06:57.53 | DARKGuy | Arsonide, can you screenshot? |
| 06:58.38 | Arsonide | yeah give me a sec |
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| 07:05.53 | [SW]Dodge | does AceConfigDialog-3.0 support Radiobuttons?^^ |
| 07:07.47 | Arsonide | DARKGuy: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4557/sctyo2.png |
| 07:08.08 | Arsonide | The font on the text is different than default, big, fat, cartoony, notice the damage against me is small and default though. |
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| 07:09.28 | DARKGuy | Ah, I get it now |
| 07:09.41 | DARKGuy | Arsonide, that explains why you have no combat text AddOn around |
| 07:09.44 | DARKGuy | lemme google something |
| 07:11.06 | Arsonide | I can screenshot the addons directory as well if you like |
| 07:11.31 | DARKGuy | Arsonide, not that one, I'd like to know if you by any chance have a Fonts folder inside your WoW one |
| 07:11.51 | DARKGuy | if that's so, then try renaming skurri.ttf to something else and see if that helps |
| 07:12.55 | DARKGuy | that's the only thing that comes to mind when changing the default damage font, and since it isn't centered at the middle-top of your screen, I'm assuming it's the default damage font that has been changed |
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| 07:14.07 | charon | morning |
| 07:14.34 | ramoz | that yellow text you see there is what dmg your pet does :O |
| 07:14.56 | Arsonide | No fonts folder, and no skurri, however I searched my wow directory for *.ttf and got a bunch of fonts on my SharedMedia, DiscordUnitFrames, and Clearfont |
| 07:14.56 | ramoz | err |
| 07:14.57 | ramoz | ncm |
| 07:14.59 | ramoz | nvm* |
| 07:15.05 | Arsonide | some others too but they are smaller more specialized mods. |
| 07:15.21 | Arsonide | Emblem is in there (Emblem is what I'd like combat text to be) |
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| 07:16.38 | DARKGuy | Arsonide, ahhh must be Clearfont then |
| 07:17.23 | DARKGuy | SharedMedia can change fonts but only on Ace2 AddOns (I think) but since you don't have any combat text ones... |
| 07:17.30 | DARKGuy | this gives some clues tho |
| 07:17.30 | DARKGuy | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=8FEEF2F8E4F004CB9165C25D7C102B67.app09_01?topicId=298901213&sid=1 |
| 07:20.37 | Arsonide | So I should try a override fonts folder and grab the enigma font and rename it to skurri? |
| 07:21.27 | DARKGuy | That could work too, assuming ClearFont doesn't mess it up |
| 07:22.02 | Lywellyn | Okay, I have a question that might've been answered in the current conversation: Is it possible to import any font and be able to use it in Addons that allow you to choose fonts (e.g. Chatter)? |
| 07:23.37 | DARKGuy | Lywellyn, yes, put that font in the SharedMedia AddOn folders and do the respective .lua editions (simple, but I have never felt the need to do so) |
| 07:24.07 | Arsonide | Wow... |
| 07:24.11 | Lywellyn | Cool. |
| 07:24.24 | Arsonide | It appears the font IS emblem, the numbers just look really bad when blown up that big by clearfont. |
| 07:24.35 | Arsonide | You suggest I get a proper sct mod? |
| 07:25.08 | Aiiane | I'd suggest that regardless :P |
| 07:25.15 | Aiiane | there are some really nice features on most of them :) |
| 07:25.38 | DARKGuy | yeah I second Aiiane |
| 07:25.55 | Arsonide | looks like there's basically three, SCT which eats CPU, MSBT which is lightweight but better than default, and parrot which is a mid range of both. |
| 07:25.58 | Lywellyn | Do I want SharedMedia, SharedMediaLib, LibSharedMedia-2.0, or LibSharedMedia-3.0? o_O;; |
| 07:26.00 | Arsonide | suggestions? |
| 07:26.15 | Aiiane | I use msbt. |
| 07:27.44 | Diao | parrot doesn't really eat cpu if you already use other rock mods though |
| 07:28.07 | DARKGuy | Lywellyn, SharedMedia only |
| 07:29.09 | Lywellyn | DARKGuy: Is SharedMedia-Blizzard a good idea to pick up too? |
| 07:29.38 | DARKGuy | Lywellyn, no idea, I have never used that one |
| 07:29.46 | Lywellyn | Can't hurt to try then. |
| 07:30.25 | DARKGuy | oh, yeah I just checked up, looks ok to me |
| 07:32.07 | Orionshock | anyone here on a non enUS client, and is free to do some testing? |
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| 07:32.47 | Esine | Orionshock, I'm on enGB |
| 07:32.59 | Esine | why? |
| 07:33.02 | Orionshock | hum... don't count |
| 07:33.38 | Orionshock | im getting a report for my addon that would be caused if GetSpellInfo isn't avail or simply returns nil when the client first loads |
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| 07:34.38 | Orionshock | i have a table that does tradeskill-usEN name to locale name |
| 07:35.09 | Orionshock | Jewlcrafting is the one fubaring.. so i wanted some one to look at it and tell me if it's the same or fubar'ed |
| 07:36.11 | [SW]Dodge | any idea if i can check an item for possible cooldowns? that i can see if a specific item can have a cooldown like the Hearthstone or a heal pot |
| 07:37.48 | Orionshock | ya grab the tooltip of the object |
| 07:37.48 | mitch0 | dodge: GetItemCooldown's third return should be true (or 1) if it is capable of having a cooldown, I think |
| 07:38.04 | [SW]Dodge | not every item has the cooldown mentioned in the tooltip |
| 07:39.09 | [SW]Dodge | mitch0: for spells it is only if the cooldown is running (like no stealt = 0, in stealth = 0 but other values are set and after stealth 1) |
| 07:40.19 | mitch0 | dodge: yeah, but the info on wowwiki tells me what I wrote. I haven't tested it though |
| 07:40.33 | [SW]Dodge | hm, i'll look for it. |
| 07:42.09 | [SW]Dodge | yea :D |
| 07:42.12 | [SW]Dodge | it works |
| 07:42.14 | [SW]Dodge | awesome |
| 07:42.16 | [SW]Dodge | <3 |
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| 07:45.21 | ramoz | so SCT eats CPU |
| 07:45.21 | ramoz | hm |
| 07:46.40 | DARKGuy | and parrot isn't really pretty for me |
| 07:46.42 | DARKGuy | ): |
| 07:47.54 | ramoz | yeah, i havnt tried mikes tho |
| 07:48.25 | Nocts | never really found a use for sct or parrot |
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| 07:51.01 | odt | I'm using them for those huge "spell resisted" messages |
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| 07:51.11 | odt | for dmg in/out i got eavesdrop |
| 07:51.29 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 07:51.51 | Cheads | morning |
| 07:51.58 | odt | noon |
| 07:52.51 | Zhinjio | damn, the latest version of ff is just sucking ass. |
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| 07:54.26 | Zhinjio | feeds Ellipsis some tasty fruit snacks. |
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| 08:00.10 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r69693 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_ButtonTypes.lua IB_Main.lua InfiniBar-2.0.toc): InfiniBar-2.0 - Updated system to determine current revision in-game to also look at the toc file and IB_ButtonTypes.lua. |
| 08:00.48 | CIA-39 | 03Filiassin * r69694 10LootDB/ (6 files): |
| 08:00.48 | CIA-39 | LootDB: First release |
| 08:00.48 | CIA-39 | - Shows loot information in item tooltips |
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| 08:01.33 | scorpio0920 | Hi all |
| 08:01.35 | Ellipsis | nibbles Zhinjio |
| 08:01.40 | Zhinjio | Heya scorpio0920 |
| 08:02.01 | Zhinjio | seriously.. I bring fruit bars so that I don't get nibbled on. |
| 08:02.08 | Ellipsis | but I like to nibble :( |
| 08:02.10 | Ellipsis | I'm sowwy |
| 08:02.11 | Zhinjio | but... there are some parts where I'm ok with it. |
| 08:02.16 | Ellipsis | nibbles the fruit snacks instead? |
| 08:02.25 | Zhinjio | points out the right parts. |
| 08:02.32 | Ellipsis | rawr ;D |
| 08:02.34 | Zhinjio | they're ok. |
| 08:02.39 | Zhinjio | smiles. |
| 08:03.31 | Shirik | Antiarc: ping |
| 08:03.56 | Zhinjio | How's yr night, ... |
| 08:04.18 | Lywellyn | So I was going to make my chat window display the font that most Nintendo games used....and it looks cool, 'cept one thing. |
| 08:04.24 | Lywellyn | THe font has no symbols. ;_; |
| 08:04.29 | DARKGuy | Aww |
| 08:04.30 | breser | waves his gift certificate hoping Ellipsis' nibbling binge reaps rewards. |
| 08:04.33 | DARKGuy | can we see anyways? :D |
| 08:04.50 | Ellipsis | breser: patience is a virtue |
| 08:04.51 | Lywellyn | You want a screenshot? :p |
| 08:04.55 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 08:04.55 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 08:04.59 | Lywellyn | Comin' up :p |
| 08:05.01 | DARKGuy | whee |
| 08:05.15 | breser | Ellipsis: I'm patient. I'm just trying to accelerate the process with birbery. |
| 08:05.17 | DARKGuy | \o/ |
| 08:05.27 | Ellipsis | tricky boy |
| 08:10.18 | Zhinjio | you know what I find almost as satisfying as fixing a bug myself? |
| 08:10.36 | Zhinjio | getting the email from the SVN/jira on someone's website telling me they fixed the bug I submitted. |
| 08:16.01 | CIA-39 | 03Filiassin * r69695 10LootDB/ (. lootdb.lua): |
| 08:16.01 | CIA-39 | LootDB: |
| 08:16.01 | CIA-39 | - version number changed to 1.0 (rtm) |
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| 08:18.18 | Zhinjio | After two days of bantering with the Pazza on the WIM forums, he's going to be implementing the new event filtering correctly in WIM |
| 08:18.21 | Zhinjio | hoorah. |
| 08:22.05 | Gibbonz|Work | not sure if its xperl_arcanebar or wow, but on my tauren shammy I've noticed that when taking damage, you sometimes lose the casting progress altogether... anyone else noticed the same? |
| 08:22.37 | Xinhuan | what do you mean "lose the casting progress altogether"? |
| 08:22.47 | Zhinjio | <-- allergic to xperl. |
| 08:22.49 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan! |
| 08:23.07 | Xinhuan | hi |
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| 08:23.20 | Gibbonz|Work | say your casting lightning, a mob hits you and the casting progress goes away |
| 08:23.28 | Xinhuan | but you continue to cast? |
| 08:23.34 | Gibbonz|Work | you still keep casting, you just dont have an indicator |
| 08:23.45 | Xinhuan | you're using _arcanebar as a replacement for the standard castbar? |
| 08:24.04 | Gibbonz|Work | yep |
| 08:24.05 | Xinhuan | try using something like Quartz instead :) |
| 08:24.19 | Gibbonz|Work | hehe |
| 08:24.42 | Xinhuan | well if you're losing the casting indicator, it does sound like a _arcanebar bug |
| 08:25.39 | Gibbonz|Work | ok, will mention it to zek when he's about ;p |
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| 08:29.21 | Xinhuan | What's wrong with lawyer jokes? |
| 08:29.21 | Xinhuan | Lawyers don't think they're funny, and nobody else seems to think that they're jokes. |
| 08:29.23 | Gibbonz|Work | went into outland for the first time last night, loving it :) nice welcome party too lol |
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| 08:30.24 | Nocts | Crackseed: Hooray Antiarc for finally making something I can replace Prat with |
| 08:30.28 | Nocts | Friend of mine, Anticar. |
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| 08:38.09 | Nocts | Crisis owns me, btw |
| 08:38.18 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r69696 10Recount/GUI_Config.lua: |
| 08:38.18 | CIA-39 | Recount: |
| 08:38.18 | CIA-39 | - When switching zone filters, the data collection will now always toggle and the main window will be refreshed. |
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| 08:39.07 | Lywellyn | DARKGuy: Sorry so long. AV queue came up. http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm95/lywellyn06/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_041408_040554.jpg |
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| 08:41.31 | Ozguli` | Lywellyn they aren't instant in your battlegroup? |
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| 08:42.49 | Lywellyn | The queue time has shortened incredibly recently (from over an hour and a half), but they're still around 4-6 minutes. I don't know what it is non-AV weekend though. |
| 08:43.06 | Ozguli` | aww. |
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| 08:45.32 | DARKGuy | LOL Lywellyn |
| 08:45.34 | DARKGuy | it looks awesome |
| 08:45.52 | Lywellyn | Yeah, I thought it was great, but without the symbols, it's a bit hard to read. :p |
| 08:45.57 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69697 10MobSpells/ (MobSpells.toc localization/zhTW.lua): |
| 08:45.57 | CIA-39 | MobSpells: |
| 08:45.57 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 08:45.57 | CIA-39 | - Added Notes-zhTW and Notes-zhCN. |
| 08:46.10 | DARKGuy | agreed =p |
| 08:46.13 | Lywellyn | zhTW....Taiwanese? |
| 08:46.29 | DARKGuy | can't find a nintendo font with the symbols? I'm sure there must be one around the net |
| 08:48.53 | Kurax | yawns |
| 08:48.53 | Lywellyn | Nope, can't seem to. They're all the same... |
| 08:48.56 | DARKGuy | Man, Chatter would be -so- awesome for me if it had a Minichat feature... current Minichat is kinda buggy if you don't do a /reloadui everytime you change something |
| 08:48.59 | DARKGuy | sucks =/ |
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| 08:49.57 | DARKGuy | maybe Antiarc will add that feat. someday *hopes* |
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| 08:50.41 | Ellipsis | Kurax, did you just wake up? |
| 08:50.56 | Kurax | Ellipsis: Of course not... |
| 08:51.05 | Kurax | Ellipsis: 5pm here |
| 08:51.16 | Ellipsis | well good |
| 08:51.20 | Ellipsis | no sleep for mah Kurax :P |
| 08:51.51 | Kurax | Where did you go these days |
| 08:52.14 | Cartas | gives Ellipsis a reminder. |
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| 08:52.43 | Grum | Lywellyn: that positively looks horrible :P |
| 08:52.57 | Kurax | summon Ellipsis back |
| 08:53.00 | Lywellyn | Wahh ;_; |
| 08:53.11 | Bruners | DARKGuy: Minichat feature? |
| 08:53.23 | Grum | you cant possibly read that without having your eyes burn ;D |
| 08:53.25 | DARKGuy | Bruners, yeah, ever used Minichat or Dreamchat? |
| 08:53.32 | Bruners | nope |
| 08:53.40 | DARKGuy | come on Grum, it rocks, it's all retro-style! |
| 08:53.44 | DARKGuy | likes |
| 08:53.49 | Ellipsis | sorry Kurax, been kinda busy/afk with the move and such |
| 08:53.57 | Lywellyn | Grum: That's why I'm not using it, I *can't* use it without my eyes burning because of the lacking symbols. |
| 08:54.07 | Kurax | Ellipsis: the move? |
| 08:54.07 | Grum | :D |
| 08:54.15 | DARKGuy | Bruners, well it's some AddOn that minimizes the chat window upon inactivity, or on mouseout, or maximizes it on mouseover, that kind of thing |
| 08:54.15 | Grum | she moved her ass |
| 08:54.19 | Grum | took liek 5 cranes etc |
| 08:54.22 | Grum | runs |
| 08:54.23 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 08:54.27 | Ellipsis | ~lart Grum |
| 08:54.27 | purl | runs at Grum with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 08:54.45 | Grum | nowai, the only one with running and she gets it |
| 08:54.49 | Ellipsis | Kurax: yes, I moved halfway across the country again :P |
| 08:54.51 | Grum | *hatebeam* @ purl |
| 08:54.51 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69698 10MobNotes/ (MobNotes.lua MobNotes.toc): |
| 08:54.51 | CIA-39 | MobNotes: |
| 08:54.52 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 08:54.52 | CIA-39 | - Added Notes-zhTW and Notes-zhCN. |
| 08:55.03 | Ellipsis | lol Grum, <3 |
| 08:55.16 | Grum | :( |
| 08:55.54 | Kurax | Ellipsis: Finally you moved out of that bad network hotel |
| 08:56.16 | Ellipsis | yes, into a hotel with a much better one ^-^ |
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| 08:58.10 | Bruners | Ellipsis: why do you live in a hotel ? |
| 08:58.24 | Ellipsis | because apartments don't charge by the hour |
| 08:58.27 | Ellipsis | oh snap! |
| 08:58.35 | Grum | i was typing that :( |
| 08:58.42 | Ellipsis | owned :P |
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| 08:59.04 | Kurax | Because ck is rich |
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| 08:59.10 | Ellipsis | I'm not with ck anymore |
| 08:59.16 | Kurax | anymore? |
| 08:59.27 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69699 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua init.lua): CoolDownButtons: first config stuff for saved cooldown positions |
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| 09:00.18 | Kurax | Seems both of you been on trips last few days, different directions? |
| 09:00.24 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 09:01.27 | Kurax | hehe timezone is -4 now, more closer to me |
| 09:02.02 | Ellipsis | licks Kurax |
| 09:02.35 | Kurax | I prefer nibbles |
| 09:02.52 | Nocts | nibbles Kurax in the vagina |
| 09:03.07 | Ellipsis | that works |
| 09:03.16 | Grum | Ellipsis is my pet now |
| 09:03.21 | Nocts | I put on my jacket and hacking goggles.. |
| 09:03.36 | Ellipsis | raeps Nocts |
| 09:03.49 | Nocts | wins the game, collects $200 and rabies. |
| 09:04.26 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 09:04.42 | Nocts | The winner dies before everyone gets up from the game, so I don't have to clean up |
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| 09:06.55 | Kurax | purl should make a WART too, for Nocts |
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| 09:09.18 | Zhinjio | sings "Sapphire bullets..... bullets of pUUUUURREEEE LOOOOOOVE" |
| 09:09.18 | NivFreak | got rage is such an easy fight... |
| 09:09.22 | NivFreak | s/got/god/ |
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| 09:18.45 | mitch0 | pin |
| 09:18.46 | mitch0 | g |
| 09:21.30 | CIA-39 | 03jncl * r69700 10Skinner/AddonSkins/ (HealBot.lua ItemDB.lua): Skinner: Bugfixes for ItemDB & HealBot skins |
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| 09:29.51 | Orionshock | YaY, Nagrand Raid Server down... |
| 09:30.04 | Orionshock | ...right as we form up for SSC... |
| 09:30.49 | Maelos` | So, I noticed there's a compilations section of files.wowace.com. Anyone know how to put one up there? :) |
| 09:32.29 | Tularis | you do raids at 11.30 am? :| |
| 09:32.47 | Tularis | must be a US server I guess... |
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| 09:38.50 | Aiiane | um |
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| 09:38.57 | Aiiane | it's 2:40pm on the west coast of the US |
| 09:38.59 | Aiiane | er |
| 09:39.01 | Aiiane | 2:40 am |
| 09:39.06 | Aiiane | and 5:40 am on the east coast |
| 09:39.11 | Aiiane | definitely /not/ a US server |
| 09:39.28 | Aiiane | but there are plenty of morning raiding guilds in both US and EU |
| 09:39.50 | Aiiane | in fact, the farthest progressed guild on our server hordeside is a morning-raiding guild |
| 09:40.10 | Aiiane | not everyone works 9-5 :) |
| 09:40.31 | Tularis | never seen me one of those guilds |
| 09:40.49 | Tularis | I know of a night-raiding guild here, but no morning ones |
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| 09:41.20 | breser | My guild raids from 11 pm to 3 am server |
| 09:42.53 | Bruners | 2000-2400 |
| 09:44.15 | Matrix110 | there are guilds that take all together holidays to get a first kill on Kalecgos start 5mins after Server up to raid and raid over 40hrs on him and dont get him down aswell :P |
| 09:44.25 | Lywellyn | All honor is instantly added to your total honor points, right? Both HK and bonus honor? |
| 09:44.42 | SunTsu | Lywellyn: Correct |
| 09:47.35 | Lywellyn | Hmm. Wish there were options in HonorFu and/or ArenaFu to show your current honor points total, not just 'today's honor'. |
| 09:47.45 | AbsoRayne | Someone make me stop playing with the color wheel in photoshop. |
| 09:48.03 | Lywellyn | I can add them myself, but I'm so tired of having to put in my edits every time it's updated. |
| 09:51.36 | chexsum_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.58 | AbsoRayne | >_< |
| 09:52.13 | AbsoRayne | I just cant decide on a color scheme I like with my UI |
| 09:52.19 | Orionshock | Antiarc: thought u got rid of LibGUIDRegistry? |
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| 09:52.39 | chexsum_ | red for horde or blue for alliance |
| 09:52.48 | chexsum_ | green for rp server |
| 09:52.52 | chexsum_ | :) |
| 09:52.53 | AbsoRayne | Nah |
| 09:53.05 | AbsoRayne | For some reason, im not feeling my typical dark red with this UI |
| 09:53.19 | AbsoRayne | and I dont want a run of the mill everythings grey and fricken boring UI |
| 09:53.49 | chexsum_ | go for hot pink then |
| 09:54.15 | chexsum_ | make it match a gnome hair |
| 09:54.28 | chexsum_ | op rum purple! |
| 09:54.31 | AbsoRayne | I like people downloading my UIs |
| 09:55.00 | AbsoRayne | Bleh...light blue isnt working |
| 09:56.52 | CIA-39 | 03kunda * r69701 10Omen/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Omen: deDE update and removed a duplicated locale string |
| 09:58.07 | chexsum_ | safari orange |
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| 10:18.53 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69702 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Rokmar.lua: |
| 10:18.53 | CIA-39 | LittleWigs: |
| 10:18.53 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324) |
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| 10:22.53 | CIA-39 | 03rabbit * r69703 10SimpleChatMods/urlcopy.lua: SimpleChatMods: urlcopy: Bugfix. |
| 10:24.12 | Chazwazza | who the hell is scorpio0920 and why were all his changes across a whole bunch of addons reversed? i was just reading through the changelog after i ran WAU and noticed it in about 6 of the addons i use. what did he do that was so bad? (i never tried the changes, i don't update often enough) |
| 10:24.47 | exor674 | Chazwazza: he TOC bumped every single damn addon |
| 10:24.49 | JoshBorke | changed the toc |
| 10:24.51 | Maldivia | he did a mass change of the toc version of them all to 20400 |
| 10:25.09 | Chazwazza | ahhhh rofl |
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| 10:27.21 | exor674 | at least he didn't change them to 20300 or something, that'd have just been funny |
| 10:27.41 | Maldivia | the other thing is worse, imho |
| 10:29.18 | Chazwazza | there was one changelog i read that was pretty funny |
| 10:29.21 | Chazwazza | someone bumped the toc |
| 10:29.24 | Chazwazza | then ammo undid it |
| 10:29.29 | Chazwazza | then scorpio rebumped it rofl |
| 10:29.39 | Chazwazza | then ammo undid it again with a big message in all caps |
| 10:30.16 | breser | dweeeee |
| 10:30.20 | breser | oops |
| 10:30.24 | SunTsu | Changelog wars ;) |
| 10:31.01 | Chazwazza | SunTsu: i like your book |
| 10:31.22 | Chazwazza | :P |
| 10:31.38 | SunTsu | Chazwazza: I like it, too, all of my books, in fact ;) |
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| 10:35.50 | _neuron_ | is gathermate_data working atm? Says "No data found" for me for a few updates ago :/ |
| 10:38.54 | Orionshock | Funkeh`: wrt BW_CommonAuras, chance we could get seperate options for announce and bars? |
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| 10:50.58 | Zeksie | bleh.. really hate that about ClosetGnome.. i put on the Spectroscopic Nagrand goggles for the daily. mount up. find a thing, unmount and ClosetGnome puts back the helm, even tho it only changed Riding Crop when i mounted... >< |
| 10:52.47 | Bruners | fix your mount-set to not touch headpiece |
| 10:52.52 | Bruners | like with tabard and skirt |
| 10:53.00 | vhaarr | Zeksie: it won't do that if you define your Mount set correctly |
| 10:53.34 | Bruners | or just disable mount when doing that quest |
| 10:53.49 | Zeksie | mount set is ONLY the riding crop. all other slots are red |
| 10:55.04 | Zeksie | it's like it remembers which set it was on before, and equips that |
| 10:55.35 | zarevak | hi everybody - I've noticed Filiassin's commit (69694,69695) with LootDB, but I cannot find his addon on files.wowace.com to check it out :( |
| 10:56.11 | Zeksie | script could be running slow. it happens |
| 10:56.31 | zarevak | the script is already on revision 69703 |
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| 10:57.07 | Gibbonz|Work | Zeksie: might have found a bug in xperl_arcanebars/player.. as a tauren shaman if you take damage while casting, sometimes the cast bar on your player frame stops showing the cast progress |
| 10:57.08 | zarevak | I suspect it's because his filenames are lowercase and directory/addon name is "LootDB" |
| 10:57.19 | Gibbonz|Work | even though your still casting |
| 10:58.11 | Gibbonz|Work | just wanted to leave that with you as im off for lunch ;p |
| 10:58.36 | Zeksie | Gibbonz|Work. yeah, it's bad events from the api i think. u get the same if you're channeling and try to cast a new channel spell, it'll fail and the bar will top |
| 10:58.39 | Zeksie | stop* |
| 10:58.58 | Gibbonz|Work | ah ok |
| 10:59.03 | Zeksie | or i may have it wrong. that's entirely possible |
| 10:59.09 | Orionshock | the 5 pat to the right of leo, can u despawn it? |
| 10:59.15 | Gibbonz|Work | hehe, well back in a bit |
| 10:59.40 | zarevak | Zeksie: there are similar issues reported for Quartz so it may be the API problem or some change by Blizzard |
| 11:00.38 | zarevak | (the last comment was about the cast bars) |
| 11:00.56 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: just kill it? |
| 11:02.09 | Orionshock | trying |
| 11:02.17 | Orionshock | 1 offline and 1 dead |
| 11:02.56 | CIA-39 | 03stan * r69704 10EnhancedColourPicker/ (EnhancedColourPicker.toc embeds.xml): EnhancedColourPicker: use embeds.xml |
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| 11:05.07 | CIA-39 | 03Filiassin * r69705 10LootDB/ (LootDB.lua lootdb.lua): LootDB: renamed lootdb.lua to LootDB.lua |
| 11:07.00 | Filiassin | hm, is it possible prevent the posting of the renaming-actions? there is one file left to be renamed O.o |
| 11:07.22 | Apoco | ~seen ANTRat |
| 11:07.25 | purl | antrat is currently on #wowhead (3d 14h 52m 46s) #norganna (3d 14h 52m 46s) #wowuidev (3d 14h 52m 46s) #wowace (3d 14h 52m 46s) #wowwiki (3d 14h 52m 46s), last said: '...hi anyway'. |
| 11:07.27 | Apoco | ~seen Antiarc |
| 11:07.28 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 136 messages. Is idling for 7h 19m 24s, last said: 'I use VLC'. |
| 11:07.38 | Apoco | bleh |
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| 11:08.35 | CIA-39 | 03Filiassin * r69706 10LootDB/ (LootDB.toc lootdb.toc): LootDB: renamed lootdb.toc to LootDB.toc |
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| 11:09.37 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r69707 10/branches/5MQuanQuan/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:09.37 | CIA-39 | 5MQuanQuan: |
| 11:09.37 | CIA-39 | - "Custom" module is able to run macros now |
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| 11:15.36 | Zeksie | zarevak: yeah, i'm fairly sure the api gives a new SPELLCAST_START or STOP when you 'try' to cast a spell, whther it actually starts a cast or not |
| 11:15.42 | Apoco | wtf is 5MQuanquan? |
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| 11:21.47 | Grum | zarevak: i might be work in a branch? |
| 11:22.13 | CIA-39 | 03adirelle * r69708 10Parrot/ (Code/Parrot.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua): Parrot: typos and updated frFR locales. |
| 11:22.21 | Grum | oh it actually isnt |
| 11:22.29 | Grum | just do an svn checkout of http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LootDB/ ? :) |
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| 11:24.07 | Kurax | Apoco: It's a mystery |
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| 11:25.51 | Grum | Kurax is the new Alar? |
| 11:26.12 | Kurax | Grum: Why saying that |
| 11:26.45 | Kurax | Grum: Just because you cant understand the name doesnt mean it's not working |
| 11:26.59 | Grum | LOL! the default locale is in ... funky-language :D |
| 11:27.15 | Grum | return L["鼠标左键"]; <-- Translators will have *so* much fun translating that haha |
| 11:28.17 | Olison | :)) |
| 11:28.21 | Grum | it seems to be some kind of 'autobar' which allows you to set keyboard shortcuts |
| 11:28.29 | Grum | but the name is positively horrid :D |
| 11:29.17 | Kurax | It's a sphere thing like serenity or cryolysis |
| 11:29.54 | Grum | you seem to be able to talk perfectly fine english,, why on earth would you not have english as base-locale? ;D |
| 11:30.43 | Orionshock | Grum: so the bad translators leave it alone |
| 11:30.49 | Kurax | Because do translating while coding will disturb my mind |
| 11:31.01 | Grum | but you use english everywhere :D |
| 11:31.18 | Kurax | I can fix the locales later when I done |
| 11:31.21 | Grum | (i'm just being part silly - my guess is that it will change before 'live'? :D) |
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| 11:32.11 | Grum | who updates the periodic tables btw? |
| 11:32.12 | Kurax | It will have an enUS locale by myself, I dont care about other languages |
| 11:32.40 | Grum | Kurax: yeah but if you use english base-strings translaters might actually be able to translate it hehe :D |
| 11:34.41 | CIA-39 | 03Filiassin * r69709 10LootDB/ (LootDB.lua LootDB.toc): LootDB: filenames fixed |
| 11:34.50 | Kurax | Since AceLocale3 is designed to allow non English based locales, why I choose to ignore it =p |
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| 11:55.31 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:55.43 | Fisker- | i healtanked a kz mob |
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| 11:58.08 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69710 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua: |
| 11:58.08 | CIA-39 | JewelTips: |
| 11:58.08 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 11:58.35 | JY` | warlock ! |
| 11:58.50 | SunTsu | .o0( Can#t scorpio do toc bumps again, please? ) |
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| 12:02.54 | buu | Hrm. |
| 12:02.59 | buu | Auctioneer is weird |
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| 12:09.15 | Vulcanus | rarrr 96% on anvil |
| 12:11.01 | Kaaosa | My server is still 97% on the armory >_> |
| 12:11.05 | ramoz | we were 83% last night |
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| 12:12.50 | Uhuru | Hi, someone know a version of cryolysis 2 working for 2.4 ? |
| 12:13.09 | Fisker- | btw Zeksie |
| 12:13.10 | Fisker- | baww |
| 12:13.19 | Hjalte | Anyone has a clue what's special about this version of Omen? http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/12187/download/50355/ |
| 12:16.00 | Uhuru | paene & Belazor had create Cryolysis 2, i have not see a version bugfree since i use it and there is absolutely no way to contact them to report bugs, latest version don't work at all, clap clap clap |
| 12:16.41 | Vulcanus | 1. Do you know what "Beta" means? 2. Curse has a bugtracker. 3. Take your sarcasm and go jump off a bridge, CLAP CLAP CLAP |
| 12:17.17 | Vulcanus | I'm Belazor btw :> |
| 12:17.17 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 12:17.29 | sag_ich_nicht | chatter has sound highlighting? |
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| 12:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc i keel you, why you didn't tell me D: |
| 12:18.26 | Prof_Albert | what is it about these sphere-addons anyway (Necrosis, Sphere, etc) they are REALLY handy and saving space but they all become abandoned :( |
| 12:18.26 | Prof_Albert | is there any addon working just fine? |
| 12:18.29 | lhunath | Who set up or maintains the structure of the Ace dependency management and latest.xml etc? |
| 12:19.14 | Vulcanus | Prof_Albert: Cryo isn't abandoned and the latest revision works just fine for me. Necrosis isn't abandoned either, it was updated April 1. |
| 12:19.15 | lhunath | Prof_Albert: buy a keyboard ;p |
| 12:19.40 | Prof_Albert | april 1? |
| 12:19.50 | Uhuru | Vulcanus : make an add on who never work not make any sense |
| 12:20.18 | Vulcanus | Uhuru, you being an idiot not make any sense either. |
| 12:20.25 | Uhuru | latest version : nothing happen when i click on a button |
| 12:20.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Prof_Albert: fuck normal sphere addons, someone rewrite sprocket and there is no need for any of them |
| 12:20.41 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 12:20.41 | Uhuru | oh i'm an idiot :( |
| 12:20.43 | Uhuru | mouahaha |
| 12:20.45 | sag_ich_nicht | sprocket was so awesome :/ |
| 12:21.02 | stew_a | original cryolysis works ok still anyway if you ignore the taint |
| 12:21.05 | Uhuru | "it works for me so where is the problem" |
| 12:21.15 | sag_ich_nicht | stew_a enjoy your broken UI |
| 12:21.30 | Uhuru | if you think like that just do the add on for you and don't purpose it to download asshole |
| 12:21.34 | stew_a | lol, i'ts been in my UI for months and everythign still works fine |
| 12:21.36 | Prof_Albert | sag_ich_nicht: so sprocket isn't working with 2.4 (haven't tired yet) |
| 12:21.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Prof_Albert: nope |
| 12:21.50 | sag_ich_nicht | it isn't working since 2.0 ame out |
| 12:21.54 | sag_ich_nicht | *came out |
| 12:21.58 | Prof_Albert | oh |
| 12:22.42 | sag_ich_nicht | there is a specific secure state header that was created JUST so sprocket could be rewritten(which says SOMETHING about how awesome sprocket was) |
| 12:22.49 | sag_ich_nicht | but it never came to a rewrite |
| 12:23.08 | Uhuru | Vulcanus : it seems you don't have the necessary competence to developp and add i advice you to stop make errors in the bugsack of the users who try to use you're fucking bugged add on |
| 12:23.13 | Zeksie | Fisker-- ? |
| 12:23.35 | lhunath | Uhuru: relax, pal. |
| 12:23.42 | Fisker- | any chance of getting some standalone pet support? |
| 12:23.48 | lhunath | you don't have to use it. |
| 12:23.48 | Fisker- | other than just adapting what warriors get |
| 12:24.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Uhuru i suggest you learn english before trying to insult other people. |
| 12:24.32 | sag_ich_nicht | because the job of insulting native speakers with their own language is the one of ME and FISKER- |
| 12:24.40 | Zeksie | Fisker-- was against that cos it would just create work for palas. the pets get group buffs and you're just gonna be overwriting them all over. |
| 12:24.41 | sag_ich_nicht | and WE do it properly |
| 12:24.52 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU don't |
| 12:24.59 | Uhuru | sag_ich_nicht can i insulte him in french ? |
| 12:25.18 | Vulcanus | And additionally: Be either specific or, you know, CORRECT in your error reports. You come on here to try to bitch about people behind my and paene's backs, only to find you fail horribly. Now as for that bridge I mentioned earlier... |
| 12:25.20 | lhunath | after inviting him to #wowace_fr, sure. |
| 12:25.26 | Zeksie | PP was made when this wasn't hte case, and it was appropriate there, but i'm really not keen on doing it. |
| 12:25.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- tell him |
| 12:26.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie rewrite buff priority for epic minmaxing :( |
| 12:26.21 | Uhuru | Vulcanus you make an add on without any possibility to report bugs, make it only for you |
| 12:26.28 | Vulcanus | And yes you can insult me in French, but I'll just insult you in Norwegian instead. Either ways, until you stop being such a slack-jawed mong, you might as well sod off. |
| 12:26.56 | sag_ich_nicht | zomgbuffs still prefers giving single BoM to other paladins instead of the one with Imp. BoM because of stupidity |
| 12:27.04 | Vulcanus | Uhuru, then what is this page: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/8551/ |
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| 12:27.10 | Vulcanus | Oh that's right, you being a tard |
| 12:27.19 | sag_ich_nicht | and it's not even related to the priority system itself, just to the fact that you're doing the working order alphabetically |
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| 12:27.22 | Uhuru | ahahah il think cryolysis should only work with a norvegian client so |
| 12:27.28 | sag_ich_nicht | HEY |
| 12:27.32 | Bruners | what is the best anti-spam addon now? my realm is spammed to death atm |
| 12:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | UHURU VUCANUS |
| 12:27.48 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU'RE BOTH SUSPENDED |
| 12:28.23 | Uhuru | Vulcanus norvegia is not the center of the world |
| 12:28.29 | Vulcanus | Nor is france. |
| 12:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 12:28.56 | lhunath | somebody tell me whom I need to talk to about Ace dependency management and adding a feature to latest.xml. |
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| 12:29.24 | stew_a | spamsentry is probably still the best bruners |
| 12:29.24 | sag_ich_nicht | if either of you don't shut up i'll start insulting BOTH of you in german, and then connect to your realms and social engineer the people on it until they hate you |
| 12:30.08 | Orionshock | ffs, 4th week at wiping to leo, and we get him to enrage and 10% |
| 12:30.09 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly |
| 12:30.11 | Vulcanus | do you even know my realm? ;P |
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| 12:30.20 | sag_ich_nicht | stop acting like fucking kids |
| 12:30.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and talk like normal people to each other |
| 12:30.38 | syeren | Anyone good with DogTags here? I'm trying to make one :< |
| 12:30.40 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: big words coming from you :-P |
| 12:30.44 | syeren | I think it's simple to make but not sure :< |
| 12:31.23 | Uhuru | make an add on who work only for norvegian client don't make any sense, don't purpose your shit to the community please |
| 12:31.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't even know why you're argueing here, but the fact that you're both insulting each other with no real purpose other than to piss each other off show that neithert of you have any kind of maturity and one has to wonder why the hell you even bother to come to this irc channel |
| 12:31.51 | sag_ich_nicht | s/neithert/neither/ |
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| 12:33.10 | Uhuru | I was coming to add support for cryolysis 2 sag_ich_nicht, i came here about 50 times to see if someone can help about this add on or tell me where to report bugs and this is the first time i get a answer from the dev who insulting me |
| 12:33.26 | Vulcanus | you started insulting uhu |
| 12:33.34 | Vulcanus | if you want support, go post a ticket and we will look at them |
| 12:33.45 | Uhuru | [14:16] <Uhuru> paene & Belazor had create Cryolysis 2, i have not see a version bugfree since i use it and there is absolutely no way to contact them to report bugs, latest version don't work at all, clap clap clap |
| 12:33.53 | Uhuru | well do you see an insult ? |
| 12:34.21 | Bruners | clap clap clap ? |
| 12:34.28 | Vulcanus | Yes I do, "clap clap clap" is sarcasm for how you think we're incompetent just because you couldn't find our Curse page |
| 12:35.27 | Bruners | even i saw it |
| 12:35.29 | Uhuru | oh users must guess by themselves to go to curse to report bugs, what a good ida |
| 12:35.32 | Uhuru | idea |
| 12:35.58 | sag_ich_nicht | AND for that matter, one has to wonder why either of you even write addons, someone who doesn't have the ability to even insult someone can't possibly write code either |
| 12:36.18 | Vulcanus | Alll AddOns you find on WoWAce SVN are generally speaking not considered production-ready (meaning, not fit for public release), so you can expect stuff to be broken. If you don't have the Google skill needed to find the authors then you shouldn't be using BETA addons |
| 12:36.24 | syeren | Grumble, someone help me make a DogTag :< |
| 12:36.24 | sag_ich_nicht | and now my keyboard fucked up |
| 12:36.47 | sag_ich_nicht | have to us the screen kbrd |
| 12:36.52 | Gotai | What do you want to make syeren? |
| 12:37.10 | Vulcanus | too much pounding the keyboard sag ;p |
| 12:37.11 | Vulcanus | sorry XD |
| 12:37.25 | syeren | I want my target's HP in Percent, When it's 100% it's white, and 0% it's red, and if it can gradient down (50% would be yellow for example). |
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| 12:37.35 | Snago | addons are srs bissniss! |
| 12:37.43 | syeren | I'm pretty sure it's possible, just I can't figure it out, and the threads I seem to find are not very helpful :/ |
| 12:37.49 | Orionshock | syeren: im not sure a dog tag can do that... |
| 12:37.54 | syeren | :< |
| 12:37.56 | Uhuru | some dev use the forum, for others you need to come here to report bugs, others use curse, what else ? very easy ... |
| 12:38.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:33] <Uhuru> I was coming to add support for cryolysis 2 sag_ich_nicht, i came here about 50 times to see if someone can help about this add on or tell me where to report bugs and this is the first time i get a answer from the dev who insulting me <--jira.wowace.com |
| 12:38.32 | sag_ich_nicht | jira or gtfo |
| 12:39.12 | Vulcanus | Im sure we dont read jira, I dont. I read curse tickets tho :p |
| 12:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:37] <Orionshock> syeren: im not sure a dog tag can do that... <--can. |
| 12:39.31 | Gotai | syeren: Not got LibDogTag on this char, but looking at the code there's a HPColor tag, look that up in the documentation. |
| 12:39.41 | Orionshock | it's gona have to be one of those weird [[ if...]] complicated ones... |
| 12:39.50 | syeren | [HPColor(value=hp, unit="target")] |
| 12:39.52 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up and use jira =P |
| 12:39.57 | Uhuru | so Vulcanus no buttons of your add on work since latest version, they are present but nothing happens when clicked, error is : [2008/04/14 14:05:56-1973-x29]: Cryolysis2-2.0 Beta\buttons\tooltip.lua:30: attempt to concatenate a nil value<string>:"*:OnEnter":1: in function <[string "*:OnEnter"]:1> --- |
| 12:39.59 | syeren | Don't know how to make it display as HP though. |
| 12:40.12 | Uhuru | and i'm sure i'm not the only to get this error |
| 12:40.37 | Vulcanus | lemme log on to my mage and see if I can reproduce, sec |
| 12:40.57 | Gotai | Ehh.. something like [PercentHP:HPColor]? |
| 12:41.18 | syeren | [HPColor(value=percenthp, unit="target")] |
| 12:41.19 | syeren | ! |
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| 12:41.29 | Fisker- | i get it Zeksie :O |
| 12:41.37 | syeren | Now all I need to do is work out if I can make the max HP color white :o |
| 12:41.43 | Fisker- | btw |
| 12:41.45 | Fisker- | http://i31.tinypic.com/xmlnqx.jpg <-this moment will be remembered forever. |
| 12:42.25 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 12:42.52 | Josh_Borke | 45g for a LPS? |
| 12:43.39 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:43.57 | pschriner | on my server Horde side they are at 30-33 currently, tendancy increasing; Ironically Void's are at ~20 on Alliance, guess what I'm doing every day :D |
| 12:44.49 | syeren | [HPColor(unit="target", value=PercentHP:Percent)] works perfectly fine, now if I could just work out how to color it. |
| 12:45.17 | pschriner | what I don't understand though is the fact that Void's are still at roughly ~40g, even though they have the added use of being useable as such... |
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| 12:48.19 | AcTiVaTe | Howdy all, got a prob with MBB. Keep getting a stack overflow. Even tho changelog said it's fixed :S |
| 12:48.52 | Bruners | anyone working on tab completion on nicks for chatter? |
| 12:49.44 | Matrix110 | thats already in i think |
| 12:50.02 | Matrix110 | ye it is just tested |
| 12:50.41 | CIA-39 | 03belazor * r69711 10Cryolysis2/buttons/tooltip.lua: |
| 12:50.41 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 12:50.41 | CIA-39 | - Fixed the nil bug in tooltip.lua for non-English clients. |
| 12:51.05 | ramoz | syeren: in pitbull or cowtip? |
| 12:51.13 | syeren | Pitbull. |
| 12:51.26 | charon | Hjalte: "die grossen alten" appears to be a 100-member guild on ambossar EU, perhaps someone figured it was a good way to force the entire guild to the same version |
| 12:51.33 | ramoz | doent you color it throught pitbull, not the dogtag? |
| 12:52.25 | syeren | Let me check :p |
| 12:52.26 | syeren | http://bayimg.com/NAJdoaABG |
| 12:52.33 | syeren | Is my current solution, which I'm not amazed with :p |
| 12:53.01 | MysticalOS | bah, a bunch of realms just went down again |
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| 12:53.57 | Xinhuan | ~dict sextant |
| 12:54.00 | syeren | ckknight poke le poke. |
| 12:54.13 | ckknight | syeren: hey |
| 12:54.17 | Xinhuan | ~dict 2 sextant |
| 12:54.23 | Xinhuan | ~dict 3 sextant |
| 12:54.33 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/BT-31 |
| 12:54.57 | syeren | Perfect, ck, how could I make my ermm http://bayimg.com/NAJdoaABG... |
| 12:55.02 | syeren | 100% appear as whit when it's 100%? |
| 12:55.18 | syeren | [HPColor(unit="target", value=PercentHP:Percent)] is my current tag. |
| 12:55.28 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the only thing thats been really pissing me off about BT3 |
| 12:56.01 | AcTiVaTe | Anyone using MinimapButtonBag here? r68062 |
| 12:56.21 | syeren | I tried changing the Maximum Health color gradient in Pitbull to White instead of green with no success. |
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| 12:57.16 | sag_ich_nicht | that and not being able to link autohidding between bars |
| 12:57.19 | Bruners | Matrix110: aha, it is working. Just not as i expected :) |
| 12:58.58 | Gotai | syeren: [IsMaxHP(unit="target") ? White ! HPColor][PercentHP(unit="target")] |
| 12:59.03 | AcTiVaTe | I keep getting a stack overflow in line 416 of MMB.lua. Even when I start with a fresh WTF. Anyone have a clue? |
| 12:59.38 | syeren | HERO GOTAI |
| 12:59.40 | syeren | /kiss |
| 13:02.41 | CIA-39 | 03ottokang * r69712 10Decursive/localization.tw.lua: |
| 13:02.41 | CIA-39 | Decursive: |
| 13:02.41 | CIA-39 | - zhTW update |
| 13:04.45 | sag_ich_nicht | AcTiVaTe pastey it |
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| 13:08.55 | AcTiVaTe | sag_ich_nicht: What output? |
| 13:09.28 | sag_ich_nicht | catch the error with bugsack |
| 13:09.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and pastey it |
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| 13:10.34 | Slayman | And there I am again! |
| 13:11.49 | sag_ich_nicht | i know you'll understand this so: wayne? |
| 13:11.59 | Slayman | feels ignored by the majority of the cast of that channel |
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| 13:15.01 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69713 10CoolDownButtons/cdb_base.lua: CoolDownButtons: fixed "Invalid Spell slot" bug for lockouts |
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| 13:16.31 | Uhuru | Vulcanus, i updated to 69711, problem is always the same i posted on curse |
| 13:16.52 | Vulcanus | exact same error message too? |
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| 13:18.07 | Uhuru | no, there is no error except this one : [2008/04/14 15:17:45-1975-x1]: Glory-2.0\Glory-2.0.lua:24: Glory-2.0 requires LibBabble-Zone-3.0Glory-2.0\Glory-2.0.lua:24: in main chunk --- |
| 13:18.37 | Vulcanus | that's not an error in Cryolysis |
| 13:18.49 | Vulcanus | that mod does not utilise Glory |
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| 13:19.03 | stew_a | anyone else having problems with skinner's outfitter skin? |
| 13:19.23 | Vulcanus | Glory is a library that does stuff with Honor calculations and such things, you should try to disable all AddOns that has anything to do with Honor and see if that helps |
| 13:19.24 | Uhuru | ok so no cryolysis error but nothing happen when i click on the buff button or others buttons and i can't make appear, portals, water, food and gems buttons |
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| 13:20.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Uhuru: altho that error is not coming from cryloysis, you should probably install libbabble-zone-3.0 |
| 13:21.13 | Vulcanus | I may see the problem, I'll do some tinkering and see if I can guess this into working (I run enUS client so I'm just guessing my way through here :p) |
| 13:21.38 | sag_ich_nicht | *cryolysis |
| 13:21.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i claim LIES |
| 13:22.00 | sag_ich_nicht | admit that you're running enGB not enUS Vulcanus :( |
| 13:22.08 | Groktar|Nescient | demands entry into sag_ich_nicht's sw33t anus |
| 13:22.22 | Vulcanus | is there such a thing as enGB? It's certainly not English spelling :p |
| 13:22.36 | stew_a | whats the difference between enGB and enUS, we still get all the americanisations in enGB anyway like gray, honor color etc |
| 13:22.44 | Vulcanus | yea exactly |
| 13:22.49 | Prof_Albert | the client identifies as enUS but the patches are tagged enGB |
| 13:22.50 | sag_ich_nicht | still enGB client tho |
| 13:23.01 | Vulcanus | you hair-splitting german |
| 13:23.03 | sag_ich_nicht | enGB and enUS executables are different |
| 13:23.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not german |
| 13:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2whois |
| 13:23.35 | Vulcanus | Austrians count as german |
| 13:23.36 | Groktar|Nescient | oh shit wrong channel |
| 13:23.43 | Prof_Albert | vulcanus: no they don't |
| 13:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Vulcanus: shut up yo fin :) |
| 13:23.49 | sag_ich_nicht | you |
| 13:23.52 | Vulcanus | oh its on now |
| 13:24.08 | Uhuru | "you have no error yay" |
| 13:24.19 | sag_ich_nicht | gg |
| 13:24.28 | sag_ich_nicht | now your addons will probably work a lot better Uhuru. |
| 13:24.31 | Uhuru | libbabble-zone-3.0 solve the error, thank's |
| 13:24.44 | sag_ich_nicht | now |
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| 13:24.47 | sag_ich_nicht | rightclick bugsack |
| 13:24.53 | sag_ich_nicht | and disable "filter addon misstakes" |
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| 13:25.13 | Uhuru | except cryolysis they all work fine |
| 13:25.21 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 13:25.24 | sag_ich_nicht | just disable it |
| 13:25.26 | sag_ich_nicht | okay? |
| 13:25.34 | Uhuru | it's already disable |
| 13:25.35 | sag_ich_nicht | (the addon misstake filtering that is) |
| 13:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | good |
| 13:25.49 | sag_ich_nicht | waits for taint crying |
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| 13:30.41 | CIA-39 | 03belazor * r69714 10Cryolysis2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:30.41 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 13:30.41 | CIA-39 | - Fixed GetItemInfo() calls for non-enUS/enGB clients. |
| 13:30.54 | Vulcanus | $5 says I just broke the addon, but Im on my warlock atm :p |
| 13:31.26 | Vulcanus | happy now sag_ich_nicht, I put both enUS and enGB in there :p |
| 13:31.42 | Uhuru | $5 ? |
| 13:31.50 | Vulcanus | 5 US Dollars |
| 13:31.55 | Vulcanus | gold |
| 13:31.55 | Vulcanus | :p |
| 13:31.58 | Uhuru | oh |
| 13:32.16 | Uhuru | i try when i get the r69714 |
| 13:32.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Vulcanus: yeah, but the local is only called enUS :P |
| 13:32.29 | Vulcanus | you're never happy are you sag |
| 13:32.34 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 13:33.04 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 13:33.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i AM happy |
| 13:33.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i just express my happyness using hate. |
| 13:33.24 | sag_ich_nicht | otherwise i'd just be an emo kid |
| 13:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and i hate emokids. |
| 13:33.34 | Vulcanus | XD |
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| 13:33.48 | Vulcanus | you're a crazy little dutchman |
| 13:34.29 | AcTiVaTe | sag_ich_nicht: All worked out.. |
| 13:34.52 | AcTiVaTe | sag_ich_nicht: Turned out that I had a lib the mod depended on in my AddOns dir for some reason |
| 13:34.59 | AcTiVaTe | sag_ich_nicht: So just deleting that solved it |
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| 13:39.25 | psylink_ace | morning/evening all :D |
| 13:40.18 | Industrial | T_T |
| 13:40.29 | Industrial | mother.. |
| 13:40.55 | Industrial | or, Ellipsis |
| 13:40.57 | Industrial | help :( |
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| 13:49.40 | ramoz | Mother! Tell your children not to walk my way, tell your children not to hear my words, what they mean, what they say, mother! |
| 13:49.53 | ramoz | ima listen to that when i get home |
| 13:50.04 | SunTsu | bangs his head to ramoz playing Danzig |
| 13:50.14 | ramoz | m/ |
| 13:53.23 | _neuron_ | hm, any way to anchor something to the cursor? |
| 13:53.29 | Uhuru | http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=gRhc8P2PTfU |
| 13:53.31 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin |
| 13:56.01 | kenlyric | _neuron_: you can for tooltips, so there must be a way. |
| 13:56.07 | Wobin | Uhuru: That's some really pretty typesetting |
| 13:56.15 | _neuron_ | yeah, was looking at the api and seems only the tooltip can do it |
| 13:56.40 | _neuron_ | could fake it and just move it after the cursor all the time I guess.. |
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| 13:57.14 | _neuron_ | sitting here toying with an idea to get me some more information in/besides my cursor |
| 13:57.50 | Uhuru | Wobin the song is good too |
| 13:58.02 | Wobin | _neuron_: set the frame to mousemove? |
| 13:58.08 | Wobin | StartDrag? |
| 13:58.17 | _neuron_ | doh |
| 13:58.20 | _neuron_ | of course that'd work, thanks man |
| 13:58.21 | Wobin | Uhuru: It's Floyd, that's a given |
| 13:58.29 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r69715 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: |
| 13:58.29 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 13:58.29 | CIA-39 | - zhCN update. |
| 13:58.56 | Uhuru | Wobin yeah ;) |
| 13:59.22 | CIA-39 | 03rabbit * r69716 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Removed Rebirth, shortened SW duration to 10 seconds by default and removed the SW fade handler. |
| 13:59.26 | Wobin | night all |
| 14:00.48 | CIA-39 | 03Filiassin * r69717 10LootDB/ (. LootDB.toc loottable.lua): LootDB: Updated rewards for BoJ |
| 14:02.18 | stew_a | does anyone know how the logic behind chat channel leaders actually works, the order of precendence seems to be random but consistant :S |
| 14:03.22 | dracula | indeed |
| 14:03.40 | dracula | when a leader leaves another random is assigned leader |
| 14:03.53 | dracula | same as in raids btw |
| 14:04.05 | syeren | WTB Haste :< |
| 14:04.10 | zarevak | LootDB still doesn't show up on files.wowace.com. There is an error in: http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt : ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LootDB) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceHook-2.0/ |
| 14:04.38 | Uhuru | Vulcanus, r69714, evocation button work, stone "de foyer" (don't know the english translation) button work but the button is named button instead of the right name, others problems are the same : nothing happen when i click on the buff menu and i can't make appear others buttons menu |
| 14:04.42 | stew_a | yeah, but if you print the channel user list you get the list of people, and the order always seems to be the same about who is going to be next etc |
| 14:04.53 | dracula | oh right |
| 14:04.55 | Uhuru | * is named mount |
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| 14:10.42 | Filiassin_ | Zarevak: I've allready changed to AceHook-2.1 and 2.1 also shows up correctly in the project properties. Any idea? |
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| 14:15.38 | Zergreth | hi |
| 14:16.03 | Zergreth | since p3lim cleaned out his gcode page, and theres not everything on WoWI, where can i get pBuff? :f |
| 14:17.21 | CIA-39 | 03Filiassin * r69718 10LootDB/: LootDB: changed externals |
| 14:17.59 | CIA-39 | 03saroz * r69719 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: LibBabble-Spell-3.0 just won't die! |
| 14:18.01 | Zergreth | ... |
| 14:18.02 | Grum | Filiassin_ : be aware the script only runs 3x per hour |
| 14:18.12 | Grum | around 00/20/40 |
| 14:18.54 | Filiassin_ | Grum: I changed the version of AceHook shortly after first uploading the project. It's about 4 hours ago |
| 14:19.37 | Zergreth | need a link to pBuff please D: |
| 14:19.38 | Grum | well its right in the error it gives |
| 14:19.53 | Filiassin_ | but i looks like the acehook is now dropped of the project properties ... perhaps it helps |
| 14:19.56 | Grum | if you just changed it to -2.1 then it should work in .. about 3 minutes ;) |
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| 14:21.20 | Iceblizz|RR | Anyone know any good rest shaman complications? |
| 14:21.30 | Grum | erm i see you use 'paths' in your externals: aka: "libs/AceConsole-2.0" ... be aware the / is not the directory seperator on every OS :) |
| 14:21.36 | Grum | liek windows >< |
| 14:21.49 | Grum | so it works because the packer runs on linux :P |
| 14:21.58 | Filiassin_ | but windows interpretes the normal / as a backslash |
| 14:22.29 | Grum | sure but do it the other way around and you have a problem hehe |
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| 14:22.41 | DARKGuy | o/ |
| 14:22.42 | Pheredhel | Grum: thats why its done / |
| 14:23.08 | Pheredhel | every damn svn client/server can handle it ;) |
| 14:23.32 | Pheredhel | basicly it should be even os independent as its only a svn thing |
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| 14:27.49 | Gibbonz|Work | for svn its /, in luas \\ and in tocs its \ |
| 14:28.11 | Gibbonz|Work | what with wow being windows-centric |
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| 14:29.40 | DARKGuy | they don't have a Linux client :P |
| 14:30.19 | stew_a | no but wine runs it fine most of the time :-) |
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| 14:36.06 | ckknight | Mandriva's blue |
| 14:36.19 | spelling | what are the green/blue distros other than suse/fedora |
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| 14:39.12 | Chompers | ckknight: i had that error again |
| 14:39.20 | Chompers | was looking at my bank using arkinventory |
| 14:39.21 | CIA-39 | 03kunda * r69720 10FuBar_RecountFu/ (FuBar_RecountFu.toc RecountFu.lua RecountFu_Options.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:39.21 | CIA-39 | FuBar_RecountFu: |
| 14:39.21 | CIA-39 | - added order to option menu |
| 14:39.21 | CIA-39 | - little cleanup (removed some spaces and so) |
| 14:39.21 | CIA-39 | - removed show/hide option: we have a toggle option, that's enough, or? and show/hide is in recount console options too |
| 14:39.24 | CIA-39 | - use ShowReset instead of ResetData in Reset option to have the confirm window |
| 14:39.28 | CIA-39 | - localized some strings |
| 14:39.30 | ckknight | Chompers: *shrug* |
| 14:39.33 | Chompers | so it's probably not pitbull |
| 14:39.45 | ckknight | not sure |
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| 14:41.16 | Uhuru | Vulcanus ? |
| 14:41.49 | Filiassin | Zarevak: thanks for the troubleshooting. the archive has been created, there are no more errors in the ERRORS.txt and it shows up in the filelist. solely in wau it's listed under SVN. |
| 14:42.31 | Vulcanus | I really don't know any more, you'll have to wait for paene and/or post what you posted above in the Curse comments and he'll look at it. I don't know any more, if there's no more error messages that would indicate why this happens. |
| 14:42.50 | Uhuru | ok |
| 14:42.55 | HakkaH | ok kgpanels question.... I got my textures in Interface\AddOns\Textures then in the kgpanels artlib it should be like Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\ right? |
| 14:43.33 | CIA-39 | 03kunda * r69721 10Recount/locales/Recount-deDE.lua: Recount: deDE update |
| 14:43.54 | evl | I feel I just reached a new level of professional programming |
| 14:44.04 | evl | I made an actual function called hasBucket() |
| 14:44.08 | evl | I've never been so proud |
| 14:44.19 | Vulcanus | fail, its bukkit |
| 14:44.39 | SunTsu | .o0( "What does ist to?" "Does it have to do something?" ) |
| 14:44.51 | Vulcanus | it prints an ASCII lolrus |
| 14:44.54 | Vulcanus | mebbe |
| 14:44.54 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 14:45.48 | xemacs | ckknight you should update your libbabble-class |
| 14:45.54 | ckknight | no u |
| 14:45.54 | xemacs | it interfers with the new german translations |
| 14:45.59 | evl | ZE GERMANZ |
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| 14:46.12 | xemacs | you only have "priester" but not "priesterin" in your translations :) |
| 14:47.08 | xemacs | same for other classes |
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| 14:47.57 | xemacs | like in babble-class 2.2 |
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| 14:48.43 | ckknight | lua> local bukkits = {}; function heerHavBukkit(x) bukkits[x] = true end; function canHasBukkit(x) return next(bukkits) ~= nil end; function gimmehBukkit() local x = next(bukkits) if x ~= nil then bukkets[x] = nil end return x end |
| 14:48.43 | lua_bot | ckknight: No output |
| 14:48.44 | Iceblizz|RR | Anyone know any good resto shaman complications? |
| 14:48.58 | ckknight | evl: ^--- |
| 15:01.49 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r69722 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: |
| 15:01.49 | CIA-39 | BigWigs: |
| 15:01.49 | CIA-39 | - zhCN Brutallus update. |
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| 15:05.12 | Uhuru | is there a way to disable floating combat text with SCT ? |
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| 15:06.24 | CIA-39 | 03lilrascal * r69723 10BombersBuddy/ (. BombersBuddy.lua BombersBuddy.toc libs.xml): |
| 15:06.24 | CIA-39 | BombersBuddy: initial commit |
| 15:06.24 | CIA-39 | - Binds double right click to the use function of bombs in your inventory when you are in the appropriate area to use them, making it unnecessary to bind a key or an action bar slot for your bombs. |
| 15:07.17 | Chaud | pro addon =O |
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| 15:08.19 | p3lim | Zergreth: pBuff is disbanded |
| 15:08.22 | p3lim | easy as that |
| 15:08.27 | Zergreth | hm |
| 15:08.29 | Zergreth | what a shame |
| 15:08.38 | Zergreth | it looked pretty promising on the screens i saw it on |
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| 15:09.00 | p3lim | well yeah it had some glitches and bugs, until i sort those out i recommend using something else |
| 15:09.15 | Cartas | :O It's P3lim! |
| 15:09.18 | Cartas | worships. |
| 15:09.24 | p3lim | i use a (more or less) working version of pBuff myself, still got lots of stuff to fix |
| 15:09.31 | p3lim | Cartas: :) |
| 15:09.34 | Cartas | Hi old chap! |
| 15:09.43 | Cartas | Great choice on the unit frames to build upon! :) |
| 15:09.46 | p3lim | Im not old |
| 15:09.51 | Zergreth | haha |
| 15:09.51 | Cartas | How old are you? |
| 15:09.53 | p3lim | 17 |
| 15:09.55 | p3lim | :p |
| 15:09.55 | Cartas | See. |
| 15:10.00 | Cartas | You would've said: 'I'm not.' |
| 15:10.01 | Cartas | If you weren't! |
| 15:10.04 | Cartas | But you didn't, so you are. |
| 15:10.21 | p3lim | Huh? |
| 15:10.34 | Cartas | Haha. |
| 15:10.36 | p3lim | Got me confused now |
| 15:10.44 | Cartas | 'How old are you?' You should've replied: 'I'm not.', if you weren't old! |
| 15:11.00 | Cartas | Nevermind, old chap! |
| 15:11.05 | p3lim | lol |
| 15:11.06 | Cartas | What matters is oUF is finally back in action! |
| 15:11.14 | p3lim | Its been for a while |
| 15:11.24 | Zergreth | mh, now that this is mentioned |
| 15:11.25 | Cartas | Yeh, it's been out of comission for a looong time too. |
| 15:11.27 | Zynderps | rBuff and rMinimap , pew pew |
| 15:11.33 | p3lim | 2007-04-27 |
| 15:11.47 | Zergreth | i wanted to maybe switch from ag_UF to oUF |
| 15:11.51 | Zergreth | will i miss any features |
| 15:11.52 | Zergreth | :f |
| 15:11.54 | p3lim | Zyndrome: rBuff is a ripoff of my addon :/ |
| 15:12.06 | Cartas | I'm thinking of switching back to oUF from AG too. |
| 15:12.06 | p3lim | Depends |
| 15:12.16 | Cartas | Not sure if it's too complex for my LUA capabilities at present, however. |
| 15:12.20 | p3lim | oUF rocks, you just need to know lua |
| 15:12.24 | Cartas | :P |
| 15:12.25 | Zergreth | i know lua |
| 15:12.26 | Zergreth | ;P |
| 15:12.28 | p3lim | :D |
| 15:12.30 | Zyndrome | p3lim , probably but I don't really keep track of who came first :P |
| 15:12.31 | Zergreth | i think i will try it later |
| 15:12.36 | p3lim | i dont know lua, i just guess around |
| 15:12.36 | Cartas | I don't know Lua whatsoever :( |
| 15:12.36 | p3lim | lol |
| 15:12.45 | Zergreth | lol p3lim |
| 15:12.55 | p3lim | well.. i "know" lua |
| 15:13.08 | Zergreth | im not advanced either |
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| 15:13.21 | Zergreth | but i know lots of stuff and if i dont know something i know where to get it |
| 15:13.22 | Zergreth | :f |
| 15:13.43 | Cartas | Using your layout with oUF, P3lm, do you still need to know Lua? |
| 15:14.01 | Zyndrome | if you wish to modify it |
| 15:14.07 | p3lim | To a certain degree, yes |
| 15:14.09 | Cartas | Hmm... |
| 15:14.12 | Zyndrome | like get the old raid-frames back |
| 15:14.14 | Zergreth | does anybody else think that this description for an smf mod is kinda ironic? |
| 15:14.15 | Zergreth | "This mod adds a mod that it allows to choose the lenguage on registration" |
| 15:14.17 | p3lim | If you want to use it as it is you dont have to |
| 15:14.23 | Cartas | Does it have ToT buffs/debuffs by default? |
| 15:14.25 | p3lim | but if you want to modify it.. |
| 15:14.40 | p3lim | not buffs |
| 15:14.43 | p3lim | but debuffs, yes |
| 15:14.47 | Atriace | Who do I talk to about SVN access? |
| 15:14.52 | p3lim | admins |
| 15:14.53 | Cartas | Hmmm... |
| 15:14.58 | Atriace | admins = ? |
| 15:15.05 | Cartas | Ops in this channel, methinks. |
| 15:15.14 | Atriace | I'd be surprised if all of them were SVN admins too. |
| 15:15.18 | p3lim | i dont use svn so.. :p |
| 15:15.23 | Cartas | Hm. |
| 15:15.26 | exor674 | Cartas: read the respective page on the wiki |
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| 15:15.29 | p3lim | aaaaanyways, dinner time |
| 15:15.31 | Cartas | [Ammo] is the main man, methinks. |
| 15:15.32 | exor674 | SVN Rules |
| 15:15.38 | Cartas | Hm, exor674? :o |
| 15:15.39 | Zergreth | mhh |
| 15:15.42 | Zergreth | dinner time? |
| 15:15.43 | Cartas | What do you want me to read, old chap? |
| 15:15.47 | Zergreth | for me in lik 1-2 hours |
| 15:15.48 | Zergreth | :f |
| 15:16.13 | Cartas | I wasn't asking about the SVN, exor674? :O |
| 15:16.32 | Cartas | ' mind boggles. |
| 15:16.33 | exor674 | oops :D |
| 15:16.35 | exor674 | sorry |
| 15:16.38 | Zergreth | hehe |
| 15:16.43 | exor674 | I lost track of the convo :D |
| 15:16.48 | exor674 | Atriace: yeah, read that page |
| 15:16.49 | Zergreth | be it dinner time for me or not, im friggin hungry |
| 15:16.51 | Zergreth | afk |
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| 15:17.56 | Atriace | exor674: page? what page? |
| 15:18.06 | exor674 | SVN Rules |
| 15:18.46 | Atriace | I did. I applied and I've been waiting for any sort of response email for 15 days now. |
| 15:18.58 | Atriace | That's... kinda the reason why I'm seeking an admin now. |
| 15:19.03 | exor674 | check spam folder? |
| 15:19.09 | Atriace | None |
| 15:19.34 | Vangual | 15 days is not unusual |
| 15:19.41 | Atriace | That's a relief. |
| 15:20.59 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69724 10FuBar_RecountFu/RecountFu_Options.lua: |
| 15:20.59 | CIA-39 | FuBar_RecountFu: |
| 15:20.59 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW & zhCN localization. |
| 15:21.38 | Vangual | hehe, scorpio is making himself useful much all of the sudden ;) |
| 15:23.06 | kenlyric | he'll fill you with dreams of power and wealth |
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| 15:23.27 | Dark_Elf | i dont understand the revision numbering scheme though, i can see 1 number up but not 100 etc |
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| 15:23.45 | Psycho | Dark_Elf: Rest assured sorcery is involved. |
| 15:23.48 | charon | http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules ... note how some people were in such a hurry while signing the rules that they signed the main instead of the talk page :D |
| 15:24.50 | Polleke | charon, to be fair it says "Make sure you read this whole page, sign it" |
| 15:25.19 | Zergreth | anybody else here playing Audiosurf? :f |
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| 15:25.39 | kenlyric | the place it tells you to sign links to the talk page, twice |
| 15:25.40 | Matrix110 | did |
| 15:25.45 | Matrix110 | but not anymore kinda |
| 15:25.54 | Zergreth | why not? |
| 15:26.02 | Matrix110 | boring |
| 15:26.05 | Zergreth | hm |
| 15:26.11 | Zergreth | weird, i think the exact opposite |
| 15:26.12 | Zergreth | :o |
| 15:26.13 | charon | Polleke: hmm. true. i'll fix that to read more clearly. still, if they _had_ read the paragraph immediately after that, they'd have seen that it states Talk: and even links it twice |
| 15:26.23 | kenlyric | it was a novelty going for high scores at the beginning, but mostly impossible now :) |
| 15:26.27 | Matrix110 | taste is different :P |
| 15:26.38 | Zergreth | true |
| 15:26.39 | Zergreth | :) |
| 15:26.47 | Polleke | charon, yeh I agree |
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| 15:26.57 | kenlyric | but, the nice thing about casual games is you can drop into them once in a while and not feel bad about it :) |
| 15:26.59 | pastamancer | Atriace: what's your forum account? |
| 15:27.49 | p3lim|afkdinner | moo |
| 15:28.01 | Cartas | Moo2u2, old chap. |
| 15:28.01 | Zergreth | meow |
| 15:28.08 | Zergreth | p3lim, what timezone do you live in? |
| 15:28.22 | p3lim | +1 |
| 15:28.30 | Zergreth | gmt +1?!! |
| 15:28.30 | Fix[EJ] | haha |
| 15:28.31 | p3lim | IGT |
| 15:28.40 | Fix[EJ] | 8:30am here, dinner would be pretty nice. |
| 15:28.41 | Zergreth | aw |
| 15:28.42 | Zergreth | D: |
| 15:28.42 | p3lim | InGameTime, EU |
| 15:28.45 | Cartas | Isn't it GMT+2 atm? |
| 15:28.50 | p3lim | nah +1 |
| 15:28.51 | Cartas | Or, do you mean England? |
| 15:28.57 | p3lim | england is +2 |
| 15:29.01 | Zergreth | well, gmt +1 is somewhat +2 right now because of summertime |
| 15:29.04 | stew_a | uk is gmt+1 paris is gmt+2 |
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| 15:29.07 | Zergreth | im in gmt +2.. |
| 15:29.13 | Zergreth | germany |
| 15:29.13 | Cartas | England isn't +2, p3lim :o |
| 15:29.14 | p3lim | wth |
| 15:29.14 | Zergreth | :) |
| 15:29.16 | Chaud | USA TIME. |
| 15:29.17 | Cartas | We only go forward an hour. |
| 15:29.23 | p3lim | i live in norway, enough |
| 15:29.28 | p3lim | its 17:30 atm |
| 15:29.31 | Zergreth | ye |
| 15:29.33 | Zergreth | same here |
| 15:29.34 | Zergreth | :] |
| 15:29.37 | p3lim | thats the game time |
| 15:29.38 | Cartas | 1630! |
| 15:29.41 | p3lim | :o |
| 15:29.47 | Chaud | 11:30 =) |
| 15:29.52 | Zergreth | gametime...isnt WoW getting your os time anyway |
| 15:29.57 | p3lim | no |
| 15:30.03 | p3lim | server time, as in paris |
| 15:30.04 | Zergreth | you better be kidding o.O |
| 15:30.06 | stew_a | gmt=15:30 uk time = 16:30 game time=17:30 |
| 15:30.07 | Zergreth | i always thought it does |
| 15:30.09 | Cartas | Hahaha. |
| 15:30.12 | p3lim | its server time ait |
| 15:30.17 | Zergreth | how weird |
| 15:30.21 | Zergreth | but hey, wont matter for me |
| 15:30.21 | Zergreth | :D |
| 15:30.22 | Cartas | Zergreth: The server-time shows on the li'l' sun/moon on the minimap. |
| 15:30.23 | p3lim | got guildies living in england, gt is way off |
| 15:30.26 | Cartas | The chatlog shows your OS time. |
| 15:30.31 | Cartas | Assuming you have a timestamp. |
| 15:30.36 | p3lim | erm |
| 15:30.37 | Zergreth | cartas, i dont have the gametimeframe anymore |
| 15:30.39 | p3lim | 4sho? |
| 15:30.46 | Cartas | Depends on the addon, I guess. |
| 15:30.46 | Zergreth | got my time in fubar |
| 15:30.50 | p3lim | yeah |
| 15:30.53 | Zergreth | yea, using chatmod for timestamps |
| 15:30.57 | Zergreth | thats getting os time |
| 15:30.59 | Zergreth | im sure about that |
| 15:31.05 | Zergreth | need moar food |
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| 15:31.07 | Zergreth | brb |
| 15:31.30 | p3lim | the normal lua time function shows local time (aka OS time), while the wow built in function shows server time |
| 15:31.33 | p3lim | so it depends on the addon |
| 15:32.33 | p3lim | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGameTime |
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| 15:32.51 | charon | there, it now says "Make sure you read this whole page, sign (on the Talk page), and then contact the Ace Admins", with a link to Talk: too |
| 15:33.39 | charon | wondered why the university server spamfiltered wowace's password mail |
| 15:34.37 | Fix[EJ] | charon: wowace, the #1 server for your unflitered mp3 needs |
| 15:34.40 | Fix[EJ] | obviously |
| 15:34.49 | Psycho | Also pr0n. |
| 15:35.08 | Fix[EJ] | If you know the hidden folders and files...yes. |
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| 15:36.36 | charon | so _that's_ why the rules say not to check out the entire trunk! |
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| 15:36.43 | Zergreth | haha |
| 15:36.44 | charon | runs off to mass checkout those filez |
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| 15:38.59 | Atriace | pastamancer: Forum account = Ansu (sorry for the delay) |
| 15:42.06 | Zergreth | wtf |
| 15:42.07 | Zergreth | o.O |
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| 15:42.23 | Zergreth | anyway |
| 15:42.24 | Zergreth | im off |
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| 15:50.35 | pastamancer | Atriace: I don't see a user on the wowace forums with that name |
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| 15:59.06 | CIA-39 | 03nevcairiel * r69725 10LibStub/LibStub.toc: LibStub: Yes, LibStub still works for 2.4 - even if no user should ever need to download this, correct interface version in the .toc feels good! |
| 16:00.18 | durcyn | nevcairiel: have you been talking to scorpio? |
| 16:00.29 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:00.40 | nevcairiel | but i'm a co-author of LibStub, so i can bump it =P |
| 16:00.47 | Chompers | doing a scorpio, as it will now be known |
| 16:01.41 | Nandini | i wonder if the files script will actually be able to finish in 20 minutes :) |
| 16:02.00 | nevcairiel | last time i checked it ran for ~15 |
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| 16:02.32 | nevcairiel | not sure why it is so slow |
| 16:02.37 | nevcairiel | i guess it needs a revamp |
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| 16:03.41 | Nandini | there are a few addons with a large amount of difficult to compress files (textures/sounds) it always spends a long time on |
| 16:03.53 | Nandini | (if those addons' libs get updated) |
| 16:04.00 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, it's the tag you should bump not the trunk |
| 16:04.15 | Nandini | oh true, since it gets embedded from tags |
| 16:04.15 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 16:04.23 | nevcairiel | no-one embeds the .toc |
| 16:04.28 | nevcairiel | so why even bother |
| 16:04.31 | Funkeh` | no one embeds the trunk toc either |
| 16:04.48 | Funkeh` | bother for the reasons you stated in that commit ;) |
| 16:05.14 | nevcairiel | i use the trunk for debugging |
| 16:05.15 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:05.21 | Funkeh` | fair enough ;p |
| 16:05.30 | Nandini | i suppose with no other addons loaded, someone might download the standalone libstub to learn how it works to create their own library |
| 16:05.35 | Funkeh` | imo it should be moved to branches though, since it is somewht of a dev thing |
| 16:05.46 | Next96 | Combatfilter locale add please |
| 16:06.09 | Kurax | wow |
| 16:06.11 | nevcairiel | half of combatfilter already uses the blizzard locale |
| 16:06.25 | nevcairiel | and i am too lazy to do the other strings |
| 16:06.30 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:06.36 | Funkeh` | pewpew |
| 16:06.38 | Nandini | i was about to say, much of whats in combatfilter uses the blizzard global strings |
| 16:06.41 | Next96 | i know but parts is needed locale ~.~ |
| 16:06.42 | Kurax | A LibStub bump would cause all entries on files.wowace.com get to update |
| 16:07.02 | Nandini | Kurax: probably not, because most of them have embedded the version from tags |
| 16:07.03 | nevcairiel | not if they use the branch like we taught em! |
| 16:07.04 | Funkeh` | Kurax, no |
| 16:07.07 | nevcairiel | er |
| 16:07.08 | nevcairiel | *tags |
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| 16:07.14 | Funkeh` | for what nevcairiel said |
| 16:07.46 | Kurax | You guys are just too serious, I'm just kidding |
| 16:08.02 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:08.08 | Cartas | is in stitches. |
| 16:08.10 | Funkeh` | Kurax, uh, were teching you, appriciate it |
| 16:08.12 | Nandini | i suppose this could expose any "rogue" libraries that have libstub as an external |
| 16:08.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:08.32 | nevcairiel | we'll see in the files log |
| 16:08.41 | Nandini | that's what i've been watching for :) |
| 16:08.43 | Funkeh` | point and laugh? |
| 16:08.45 | EvilGrin | is Threat v1 dead now? |
| 16:08.53 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 16:08.55 | Nandini | Threat-1.0 doesn't function in 2.4 |
| 16:08.56 | Funkeh` | delete it |
| 16:08.56 | Kurax | Yes |
| 16:08.58 | shieldb | EvilGrin: Been dead since 2.4 as far as I know |
| 16:09.04 | EvilGrin | I see, thanks |
| 16:09.15 | EvilGrin | just tidying up my guild addon pack :P |
| 16:09.22 | Funkeh` | uh |
| 16:09.26 | Funkeh` | I hate people like you |
| 16:09.29 | Funkeh` | 'addon packs' |
| 16:09.31 | EvilGrin | your welcome |
| 16:09.34 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 16:09.40 | EvilGrin | I have lazy guildies |
| 16:09.42 | Funkeh` | no offense, I just hate the very soul of an addon pack |
| 16:09.48 | LilRascal | can someone give me a hand with adding externals to svn, I'm working on my first addon and not sure how to do it |
| 16:09.49 | EvilGrin | I would much rather not have to do this at all |
| 16:09.51 | Funkeh` | tell them to grab an updater or something |
| 16:10.06 | Nandini | i do too, but the idea of having something for everyone in my guild to download is kind of alluring |
| 16:10.11 | Funkeh` | LilRascal, I think theres a wiki page somewhere |
| 16:10.14 | EvilGrin | but they insist on me making it easy for them since I insist on them having certain addons |
| 16:10.24 | EvilGrin | which I suppose is a fair point |
| 16:10.24 | Next96 | anso if i add combatfilter locale add, commit svn ? |
| 16:10.25 | nevcairiel | 3 addons already appeared with wrong externals |
| 16:10.34 | nevcairiel | and 4 more! |
| 16:10.39 | shieldb | Hmm, does dogtag 3 typically eat your processor with custom aura related tags? |
| 16:10.42 | erzy | Eum, how do i set pitbull to only show Current HP and percent? |
| 16:11.02 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, you've got someone wanting to do your work for you there |
| 16:11.03 | Cartas | [CurHP] for the current HP, if I remember correctly. |
| 16:11.07 | LilRascal | yeah, I've been working off of http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners, but I'm still a little hung up on the externals part, can you point me to a better resource? |
| 16:11.09 | Kurax | Funkeh`: Some guy asked today how to commit into Compilations category on files.wowace.com, maybe you can have a teching for him =p |
| 16:11.26 | erzy | I'll try it Cartas thanks |
| 16:11.33 | Funkeh` | Kurax, if you commit a compilatin on wowace Ill delete it |
| 16:11.37 | Cartas | % would be CurHP / MaxHP * 100 |
| 16:11.46 | Funkeh` | that category is for addons designed for compilations |
| 16:11.49 | Cartas | Not sure how you'd go about doing that in DogTag though |
| 16:11.54 | Funkeh` | a la mazzle |
| 16:12.34 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, sweet jesus |
| 16:12.38 | Funkeh` | thats like 20 |
| 16:13.07 | Funkeh` | Ackis, fix your damn externals |
| 16:13.09 | charon | any shamans around who are willing to share some combatlog details? specifically, i need to know how Mana Tide Totem events look on your end |
| 16:13.11 | *** join/#wowace Odlaw (n=ozzy@c-24-8-99-131.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 16:13.14 | Funkeh` | stop pointing to the trunk libstub |
| 16:13.20 | charon | i have no bloody idea why those totems always end up in the list of my _enemies_ i have threat on |
| 16:13.31 | Funkeh` | Apoco, you too, stop pointing to the trunk libstub |
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| 16:13.44 | Gotai | erzy: For HP percentage you can use [PercentHP] |
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| 16:14.01 | Prof_Albert | LilRascal: I learned about that 2 days ago. the page is quite good, but... |
| 16:14.11 | Funkeh` | Zeksie, and you, fix grimrepear |
| 16:14.20 | Kurax | Funkeh`: LibStub is not allowed to refer in externals? |
| 16:14.24 | Funkeh` | and zomgbuffs |
| 16:14.41 | Funkeh` | Kurax, yes it is, but you use tags not trunk |
| 16:14.43 | chiper | laughs hysterically |
| 16:14.54 | Kurax | Oh |
| 16:14.59 | Prof_Albert | the externals are located /lib directory. so you have to svn propedit svn:externals lib |
| 16:15.05 | erzy | [CurHP] doesn't work |
| 16:15.08 | Cartas | Ah |
| 16:15.11 | Cartas | CurrentHP then :p |
| 16:15.15 | erzy | nop |
| 16:15.18 | Cartas | I haven't used DogTag myself, sorry :$ |
| 16:15.26 | Gotai | [CurHP] has been changed to [HP] in v3 |
| 16:15.27 | Cartas | I'll let someone else answer! Gotai seems to know. |
| 16:15.29 | Kurax | That's DogTag2 tags |
| 16:15.34 | shieldb | so I've got http://ace.pastey.net/85755 as a custom tag on my raid frames in PitBull, and since I've added that, I get a 1-3 second lagspike whenever people are moved between groups or join the raid and random spikes throughout the night o_0 |
| 16:15.41 | erzy | thanks |
| 16:15.57 | [eu]gunder | erzy are you aware that there is a docummentation for dogtags ingame? try /dogtag |
| 16:16.02 | shieldb | is that normal for aura tags on raidframes or have I botched them somehow to cause that, or something else entirely? |
| 16:16.13 | erzy | no I wasn' |
| 16:16.15 | erzy | t |
| 16:16.16 | erzy | thanks |
| 16:16.17 | LilRascal | thanks, I'll look into that |
| 16:16.22 | JJSheets | erzy, [HP ' | ' PercentHP:Percent] |
| 16:16.36 | erzy | y, I found out :) |
| 16:17.04 | Apoco | Funkeh`: What? |
| 16:17.12 | Funkeh` | Apoco, axraidstatus |
| 16:17.17 | Apoco | what about it? |
| 16:17.17 | Funkeh` | stop pointing to trunk libstub |
| 16:17.20 | Funkeh` | use tags |
| 16:17.33 | HakkaH | ok kgpanels question.... I got my textures in Interface\AddOns\Textures then in the kgpanels artlib it should be like Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\ right? |
| 16:17.34 | Kurax | I thought ck provide a cool in-game doc system with searching |
| 16:17.35 | Psycho | shieldb: That's how I'm under the assumption things are supposed to be done. However, it seems like big tags like that perform significantly worse at the moment than they did pre-2.4 |
| 16:17.35 | Kalman| | shieldb: I don't use an aura tag and I still get the 1-3 second lagspike. |
| 16:17.44 | Kurax | For any tag just do a search in it |
| 16:18.05 | Kurax | Like you search for "HP" you get all tags related to HP |
| 16:18.08 | Psycho | I had to cut mine down to just Bloodboil/Doomfire checks because my normal tag was brutal in terms of lag. |
| 16:18.36 | shieldb | Psycho: yeah initially I had about 12 other custom aura checks for various raid stuff, which made me a sad panda |
| 16:18.38 | [eu]gunder | Kurax: it is the /dogtag command, you can even test tags with youself or your target |
| 16:18.51 | [eu]gunder | *yourself |
| 16:19.03 | Psycho | Same here. |
| 16:19.09 | Kurax | [eu]gunder: Yeah I know that, I'm speaking with erzy |
| 16:19.28 | Psycho | It told me what buffs the target was missing, what pally buffs they had, etc etc. |
| 16:19.39 | shieldb | yeah |
| 16:19.42 | Apoco | Funkeh`: What do you mean use tags? |
| 16:19.48 | [eu]gunder | Kurax: I told him a few lines before you ;) |
| 16:19.51 | Apoco | what else should I point it too |
| 16:19.53 | Funkeh` | Apoco, /tags/LibStub |
| 16:19.57 | Funkeh` | not /trunk/LibStub |
| 16:19.59 | Kurax | [eu]gunder: Ah, missed =p |
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| 16:20.07 | Apoco | ah |
| 16:20.08 | Apoco | why? |
| 16:20.16 | shieldb | Kalman|: that's good to know |
| 16:20.19 | Funkeh` | the trunk is for dev |
| 16:20.25 | Apoco | gotcha |
| 16:20.36 | shieldb | I may just turn off pitbull raid frames for the time being |
| 16:20.38 | Apoco | I thought thats what brances were for? |
| 16:20.38 | Kalman| | shieldb: I'm not *sure* it's tag-related, though it might well be. |
| 16:20.41 | nevcairiel | --> http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/LibStub/1.0/ <-- |
| 16:20.45 | Kalman| | I don't use Pitbull raid frames, either. :/ |
| 16:20.48 | shieldb | oh, hmm |
| 16:20.59 | Fisker- | oh shi- nevcairiel |
| 16:21.01 | Fisker- | i has farted |
| 16:21.02 | Nandini | it's the one project that uses the svn trunk/tags/branches in a "normal" way |
| 16:21.10 | Kalman| | I do use CowTip and Pitbull, but only use Pitbull for party/self/target/tot frames. |
| 16:21.17 | shieldb | this only started happening for me when I moved from Grid to PitBull for raidframes |
| 16:21.29 | Kalman| | Did the move coincide with a patch? |
| 16:22.07 | shieldb | hard to say, I did it yesterday morning and ran into the issues with our raid that evening, I update fairly regularly (that is to say, several times a day - yay ocd) |
| 16:22.19 | shieldb | our last raid before that was thursday night |
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| 16:22.47 | Apoco | Do you want me to change all of the other Ace3-x externals over to tags too: |
| 16:22.48 | Apoco | ? |
| 16:23.12 | Apoco | everything uses trunk right now |
| 16:23.15 | nevcairiel | no ace3 is fine in trunk |
| 16:23.49 | Apoco | lol Libstub is the only thing that uses Tags? |
| 16:23.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
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| 16:24.25 | kadrahil | oh wow |
| 16:24.27 | kadrahil | LOL |
| 16:24.32 | Odlaw | lawl.. |
| 16:24.33 | kadrahil | stormreaver came back up, and when i logged on |
| 16:24.49 | kadrahil | there weren't any npc's anywhere |
| 16:24.54 | Kurax | The version in trunk got many trash files if you looked into it |
| 16:24.59 | kadrahil | and everyone's all jumpin around and screaming about it |
| 16:25.07 | Odlaw | i find it funny that libstub is the only library that isn't part of the norm |
| 16:25.21 | JJSheets | kadrahil, go sit on Thrall's throne. |
| 16:25.31 | kadrahil | JJSheets: i can't |
| 16:25.36 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:25.40 | kadrahil | JJSheets: i'm in shatt and there aren't any portals to anywhere |
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| 16:25.47 | kadrahil | and the server is being shutdown in like 10 seconds |
| 16:25.57 | JJSheets | I wonder why? :p |
| 16:26.04 | kadrahil | :P |
| 16:26.08 | Odlaw | even if trunk is supposed to be used as a development area, the fact that the zip filing process uses trunk, the fact that all the other mods/libraries use trunk as a main reference point seems to imply that the very definition of trunk has changed. |
| 16:26.08 | Psycho | "Sorry, the Naaru are leaving you guys forever. You didn't kill Illidan fast enough on this server." |
| 16:26.29 | Nandini | "Good luck in Northrend." |
| 16:26.34 | Psycho | rofl |
| 16:26.39 | Psycho | "Arthas says hi." |
| 16:26.56 | kadrahil | so i logged onto my server just now and there weren't any npc's spawned |
| 16:27.09 | kadrahil | everyone was going crazy in trade and the server had to be rebooted |
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| 16:28.42 | Nandini | i suppose they are in a catch-22 for debugging that; the world server has to come up before the AI server can initialize |
| 16:28.52 | kadrahil | ah |
| 16:28.53 | Ackis | Funkeh': I was snooping around bigwigs last night, and didn't see an api to send whispers to players on events... I'm guessing that was intentionally left out. Do you know of something that will do this? |
| 16:29.28 | Funkeh` | Ackis, It's :Whisper(player, message, option) |
| 16:29.31 | Funkeh` | option is an optional arg |
| 16:29.40 | Ackis | well i'm retarded |
| 16:29.45 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 16:29.48 | Ackis | thanks |
| 16:29.51 | Ackis | :( |
| 16:29.55 | kadrahil | lol |
| 16:29.56 | Funkeh` | Ackis, fix ackisrecipelist to point to the tags version of libstub not trunk |
| 16:30.07 | Ackis | yah i saw your comments on that, was going to |
| 16:30.10 | Zeksie | Funkeh` ? |
| 16:30.11 | Funkeh` | k |
| 16:30.21 | Funkeh` | Zeksie, what I just said to Ackis basially |
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| 16:30.45 | Odlaw | lawl, maybe instead of trying to get everyone to be a conformist, just adapt to the norm? |
| 16:30.53 | Pkekyo| | "Commited suicide after girlfriend's 'bathtub-accident'." ...wait...what?! o.O' |
| 16:30.57 | JJSheets | The norm is wrong. |
| 16:31.03 | Ackis | no, it's better to do it the right way |
| 16:31.07 | Funkeh` | Odlaw, the norm is what we set it |
| 16:31.11 | Ackis | if everyone jumped off a bridge, would you do it?!? |
| 16:31.11 | Funkeh` | people aren't sticking to it |
| 16:31.23 | Zeksie | LibStub thing? |
| 16:31.29 | Odlaw | stop zipping up everything in trunk then? |
| 16:31.42 | Funkeh` | Odlaw, your brilliant ideas astound me |
| 16:31.53 | Odlaw | nm then. |
| 16:32.07 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r69726 10/branches/5MQuanQuan/ (5MQuanQuan.toc Libs/ Libs/LibStub/ embeds.xml): 5MQuanQuan: Make LibStub as external (And no, still no enUS locale yet =P) |
| 16:32.36 | Funkeh` | Zeksie, yeah, libstub in your addons |
| 16:32.44 | Funkeh` | point it to tags/LibStub not /trunk |
| 16:33.53 | Ackis | ... |
| 16:33.55 | Ackis | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0/ |
| 16:34.19 | nevcairiel | who tagged that? =P |
| 16:34.28 | CIA-39 | 03apoco * r69727 10aX_RaidStatus/: |
| 16:34.28 | CIA-39 | aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): |
| 16:34.28 | CIA-39 | LibStub -> Tags |
| 16:34.31 | Ackis | no idea but it's there lol |
| 16:34.35 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r69728 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/ (. LibStub/): |
| 16:34.35 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 16:34.35 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.48 | Dotted | [Chompers]: doing a scorpio, as it will now be known <- damn i was too late, i was just about to say that nev did a scorpio :'( |
| 16:34.55 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r69729 10GrimReaper/ (. GrimReaper.lua): |
| 16:34.55 | CIA-39 | GrimReaper: |
| 16:34.55 | CIA-39 | - Fixed small name format blimp. |
| 16:34.55 | CIA-39 | - -trunk/LibStub +tags/LibStub/1.0 |
| 16:35.04 | Apoco | wtf is 5MQuanQuan!!?!?!??! |
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| 16:35.15 | Funkeh` | sounds funky |
| 16:35.20 | Ackis | for libstub trunk -> tag is it: tags/LibStub/1.0/ or tags/LibStub/ ? |
| 16:35.30 | CIA-39 | 03apoco * r69730 10aX_RaidStatusConfig/: |
| 16:35.30 | CIA-39 | aX_RaidStatusConfig: |
| 16:35.30 | CIA-39 | - LibStub -> Tags |
| 16:35.34 | JJSheets | tags/LibStub/1.0/ |
| 16:35.35 | Kurax | More funky than Funkeh` |
| 16:35.40 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 16:35.41 | Funkeh` | nowai |
| 16:36.02 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: we have the anvil yet? |
| 16:36.25 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r69731 10AckisRecipeList/: |
| 16:36.25 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:36.25 | CIA-39 | - Tag, you're it LibStub! |
| 16:36.25 | CIA-39 | ~lart Funkeh' |
| 16:36.25 | purl | hauls Funkeh' up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
| 16:36.28 | Ackis | hahahhaha |
| 16:36.30 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 16:36.31 | Ackis | i win |
| 16:36.32 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r69732 10ZOMGBuffs/: ZOMGBuffs: -trunk/LibStub +tags/LibStub/1.0 |
| 16:36.33 | JJSheets | hahahahahaha |
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| 16:36.41 | Kurax | Well, it's a sphere buttons thing just like Serenity or Cryolysis in Ace3 |
| 16:36.44 | kadrahil | haha nice |
| 16:36.46 | Funkeh` | '-_- |
| 16:36.55 | Apoco | Arrowmaster: Your on my server? |
| 16:37.04 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: maybe...... |
| 16:37.10 | Kurax | QuanQuan means circles in Chinese |
| 16:37.14 | Apoco | @_@ |
| 16:37.20 | Apoco | No we don't |
| 16:37.22 | Apoco | we are at 99% |
| 16:37.24 | Arrowmaster | go use the armory and find my alt |
| 16:37.33 | Apoco | and allis are standing on the npc's so we cant turn quests in |
| 16:37.33 | Ackis | I think I've officially abused the svn with that lol |
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| 16:37.46 | Ackis | Apoco: nameplates ftw |
| 16:38.01 | FtH|Daemona | Ackis with the award for best commit comment. |
| 16:38.02 | Apoco | yes but horde are dumb |
| 16:38.08 | FtH|Daemona | -with+win |
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| 16:38.36 | AciD_ | I miss my Parrot :( |
| 16:38.48 | Ackis | gives Acid a cracker |
| 16:39.21 | Kurax | Parrot is working atm |
| 16:39.32 | Prof_Albert | AciD_: Parrot should work |
| 16:39.39 | AciD_ | it is? I thought we had to wait for Parrot2! |
| 16:39.42 | AciD_ | damn |
| 16:39.49 | Kalman| | AciD_: There's a working version. |
| 16:39.50 | nevcairiel | MSBT owns it anyway :) |
| 16:39.52 | Kurax | Although is not that offical |
| 16:39.59 | chiper | oy WAUs gonna have a ton of useless updates to download when I get home |
| 16:40.01 | Kalman| | Well, official enough. |
| 16:40.02 | AciD_ | aww no I#m using MSBT atm and it... awww i hate it |
| 16:40.07 | Kalman| | It works, anyway. |
| 16:40.14 | Fisker- | Anyone know how to get dropdown menus skinned again using skinner? |
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| 16:40.20 | Ackis | chiper: at least they aren't ToC -> 2.4 |
| 16:40.22 | chiper | I <3 MSBT |
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| 16:40.29 | chiper | ackis: true |
| 16:41.08 | chiper | tho, I think the reverts to all those ToC bumps were far more annoying than the actual bumps |
| 16:41.21 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r69733 10ZOMGBuffs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 16:41.21 | CIA-39 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 16:41.21 | CIA-39 | - Removes queued blessing if it's one they're expecting. To cope with manually buffing what is queued. |
| 16:41.21 | CIA-39 | - A few tweaks and internal debug checking. |
| 16:41.58 | Kurax | The LibStub in tags still has TOC at 20100, but well that TOC never gonna be used |
| 16:42.05 | chiper | tho, it's the lack of proper dependancy data that pisses me off the most. |
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| 16:42.50 | chiper | had to reload my UI three times last night because of libs that omen wanted which somehow got disabled. |
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| 16:43.07 | FtH|Daemona | hows recount2 coming along? *poke* |
| 16:43.13 | chiper | but rather than just disable omen, I get a nice bunch of errors as it tries to call the libs :/ |
| 16:43.24 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: oh wait you server transfered didnt you? |
| 16:43.25 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r69734 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: |
| 16:43.25 | CIA-39 | StatBlocks: |
| 16:43.25 | CIA-39 | - small fix in :Lock (wasn't enabling the mousewheel or resetting to the proper backdrop color) |
| 16:43.25 | CIA-39 | - add :Refresh() by dyree to be called on a profile change |
| 16:43.51 | LilRascal | so LibStub under Ace3 should I use the one under Alpha or Beta? |
| 16:43.53 | Nocts | <3 ouf |
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| 16:44.31 | Zeksie | what would be useful in that case, would be soemthing like: SM, roster, tablet = LibStub:GetLibs("LibSharedMedia", "RosterLib", "TabletBla") and it would return all, and if some not found, would tell you ALL that were not found in 1 go, rather than 1 per /rl |
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| 16:44.46 | Funkeh` | LilRascal, you use /tags/LibStub |
| 16:44.51 | Funkeh` | not the ace one |
| 16:44.57 | Kurax | LilRascal: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/LibStub/1.0/ |
| 16:44.57 | Zeksie | we could always do that ourselves... but would be a shame to duplicate all that |
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| 16:45.21 | LilRascal | ok, thanks |
| 16:45.35 | Apoco | Arrowmaster; I am nolonger on Burning Legion |
| 16:45.35 | Zeksie | more exactly, /tags/LibStub/1.0 |
| 16:45.38 | Apoco | if thats what your asking |
| 16:45.42 | Apoco | havent been for atleast a month |
| 16:45.59 | Kurax | I was on Burning Legion =p |
| 16:46.00 | Zeksie | yeh. what Kurax said (i'm blind too) |
| 16:46.05 | Arrowmaster | i only logon to raid anyway so i never notice other people on the server anyway |
| 16:46.14 | Apoco | who do you raid with? |
| 16:46.19 | Arrowmaster | abstract |
| 16:46.24 | Apoco | ah |
| 16:46.26 | Apoco | poor you. |
| 16:46.34 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 16:46.46 | Apoco | I was told they broke up |
| 16:46.48 | Apoco | like 3 days ago |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-39 | 03anadale * r69735 10UnderHood/ (12 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-39 | UnderHood: |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-39 | - All modules now support several new units (pet target, party players and their pets, focus target, ToT target). |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-39 | - Added ability to enable/disable individual frames without deleting them (works for Bars now, more to come) |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-39 | - Added two new Alpha conditions (have focus and have pet) |
| 16:46.50 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 16:46.54 | CIA-39 | - Added ability to color health bar by pet happiness |
| 16:46.56 | CIA-39 | - Bar visibility management changed in preparation for Threat provider update. |
| 16:47.01 | Apoco | ah |
| 16:47.06 | kalahassi | zeksie : what prefix does ZOMGBuffs use for communication? |
| 16:47.06 | Arrowmaster | we'll never break up |
| 16:47.12 | Arrowmaster | been raiding together for like 3 years |
| 16:47.41 | Apoco | I got away from that DramaFest as fast as I could |
| 16:47.51 | Cartas | Everything has to end some time, Arrowmaster! |
| 16:47.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah the server is so bad |
| 16:47.57 | charon | Arrowmaster: just wait till you hit concrete! |
| 16:48.05 | Kurax | PLPWR? |
| 16:48.05 | charon | throws $0.50 into the "bad pun" pot |
| 16:48.17 | Prof_Albert | Is there any listing, of Spells and their SpellIDs |
| 16:48.21 | Arrowmaster | were like the top raiding guild on the server that isnt full of complete asshats |
| 16:48.38 | Arrowmaster | Prof_Albert: wowhead |
| 16:48.39 | Apoco | lol |
| 16:48.47 | Apoco | Have you guys killed Illidan yet? |
| 16:48.56 | Arrowmaster | week before 2.4 |
| 16:49.00 | Arrowmaster | got a glaive too |
| 16:49.02 | Cartas | How's SP going? |
| 16:49.13 | Apoco | oh thats right |
| 16:49.19 | Apoco | Og was qqing about it |
| 16:49.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah lol |
| 16:49.27 | Cartas | Kalecgos down? |
| 16:49.30 | Arrowmaster | they got 2x offhands |
| 16:49.40 | Arrowmaster | we got mh first kill |
| 16:49.45 | Apoco | yeah |
| 16:49.52 | Apoco | Og was pissed when I transfered |
| 16:49.56 | Apoco | as was fagidan |
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| 16:50.08 | Apoco | I get his life's deam mount and xfer |
| 16:50.11 | CIA-39 | 03lilrascal * r69736 10BombersBuddy/: BombersBuddy:Updated externals |
| 16:50.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont know why people stay in kots |
| 16:50.32 | Arrowmaster | agidan is the worst guildleader ever |
| 16:50.39 | Arrowmaster | ok maybe not worst, mantid is the worst |
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| 16:51.25 | Poul|Raider | posible to do macro [target = targetofmainassist1 orsomething liek that + |
| 16:51.31 | Prof_Albert | Arrowmaster: where do I find the spellID to call with GetSpellInfo()? |
| 16:51.37 | Arrowmaster | Prof_Albert: in the url |
| 16:51.44 | Prof_Albert | Arrowmaster: oh |
| 16:51.52 | Prof_Albert | thx |
| 16:52.22 | Apoco | its because 90% of them arent good enough to be in another guild |
| 16:52.26 | Apoco | and the other 10% are loyal to the 90% |
| 16:52.28 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12818.msg203953#msg203953 |
| 16:52.29 | nevcairiel | Poul|Raider: no mainassist and maintanks cannot be targeted directly |
| 16:52.31 | Arrowmaster | Poul|Raider: no but you can do [target=NAMEOFSOMEBODY-target] |
| 16:52.44 | Poul|Raider | aint it target-nameofsomeone? |
| 16:53.06 | HakkaH | kgpanels question.... I got my textures in Interface\AddOns\Textures then in the kgpanels artlib it should be like Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\ right? |
| 16:53.20 | Industrial | < Arrowmaster> i dont know why people stay in kots |
| 16:53.25 | Industrial | that would be puke in dutch |
| 16:53.26 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:53.31 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:53.41 | Arrowmaster | KotS |
| 16:53.50 | Industrial | ah k |
| 16:54.11 | Industrial | question: who adds tocs to libraries? (see post) |
| 16:54.13 | nevcairiel | Kiss of the Spider? |
| 16:54.21 | Arrowmaster | Keepers of the Shadow guild on my server thats been around forever and has a greedy emo bitch of a guildleader |
| 16:54.28 | Fisker- | http://i31.tinypic.com/xmlnqx.jpg <-I AM VASTLY SUPERIOR nevcairiel |
| 16:54.55 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: a full stack? :P |
| 16:55.01 | Apoco | I got kicked for sayin fag in it |
| 16:55.02 | Arrowmaster | when they were doing naxx they had 2 people going to the staff, the guildleader and another guy for all the times the guildleader couldnt be there |
| 16:55.05 | Apoco | becaue his brother's boyfirend left |
| 16:55.17 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 16:55.17 | kenlyric | why do enchanting mats not have a sell price. That's just unfair. |
| 16:55.29 | Arrowmaster | our OT got kicked for saying the same i think |
| 16:55.33 | Fisker- | just one nevcairiel :P |
| 16:55.45 | nevcairiel | i need to sell some of my enchanting stuff |
| 16:55.46 | Arrowmaster | then we ginvited him and hes never thought of going back |
| 16:56.16 | Industrial | "no i meant like, sigarette. im going out for one." |
| 16:56.25 | Industrial | -te |
| 16:56.37 | Funkeh` | does someone know what happens to a twin when you kill one |
| 16:56.43 | Industrial | he dies |
| 16:56.44 | Funkeh` | apparently the other swaps powers? |
| 16:56.53 | Funkeh` | or gains the others and has both? |
| 16:57.00 | Funkeh` | Industrial, eredar twins |
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| 16:57.15 | Ackis | One twin dies, and you can't reset the debuff |
| 16:57.22 | Ackis | so it's a deeps race |
| 16:57.24 | Kurax | The perfect fans are just like leave the "Load out of date addons" unchecked and no red texts so they feel comfortable |
| 16:57.27 | Industrial | Funkeh`: I have no idea but thats usually what happens when you kill something. it dies. |
| 16:57.45 | Funkeh` | Industrial, is that what happens if I kil you? you die? |
| 16:57.58 | Funkeh` | Ackis, hmm? |
| 16:58.04 | Industrial | Kurax: thats not smart :| also leave those damn libs where they are >:P |
| 16:58.07 | Funkeh` | Im mainly talking about conflag |
| 16:58.14 | Industrial | Funkeh`: correct. |
| 16:58.17 | Funkeh` | and nova |
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| 16:58.30 | Kurax | Industrial: And that's why some people love to bump TOCs |
| 16:58.31 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r69737 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 16:58.31 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 16:58.31 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.40 | Industrial | i know |
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| 16:58.51 | Ackis | Ahh not sure, let me double check... we haven't gotten 1 down yet, bloody retarded strat |
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| 17:00.13 | Kurax | WotLK is coming? |
| 17:00.23 | Kurax | So there is not 2.5? |
| 17:00.27 | Kurax | no* |
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| 17:00.59 | HakkaH | would be weird since you can't even pre-order it |
| 17:01.34 | Kurax | Hmm |
| 17:01.42 | Kurax | I dont have to, lol |
| 17:01.43 | Funkeh` | there was neer a 2.5 on the roadmap |
| 17:01.47 | Funkeh` | never |
| 17:02.00 | Kurax | All expansions are free in China |
| 17:02.03 | Funkeh` | it will be 2.4.x fixes until 3.0 |
| 17:02.10 | Funkeh` | wtf? |
| 17:02.11 | Fix[EJ] | Ackis: Well...you -can- reset the debuff... |
| 17:02.17 | Funkeh` | why are they free? |
| 17:02.18 | Kurax | It's true |
| 17:02.20 | Fix[EJ] | if you're dope fresh. |
| 17:02.39 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: because all crazy mmorpg is free there <.< |
| 17:03.22 | Kurax | Because you can only paying by hour, not monthly |
| 17:03.34 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r69738 10ButtonFacade/ (LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua Modules/ButtonTest.lua): |
| 17:03.34 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 17:03.34 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.50 | Kurax | And it's kinda expensive, especially when you developing addons |
| 17:03.53 | Xinhuan | i will assure you that there is a 2.5 :) |
| 17:04.33 | Chaud | lies |
| 17:04.35 | Kurax | Reason? |
| 17:04.53 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: with what content then ? =P |
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| 17:04.57 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
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| 17:05.05 | Xinhuan | season 4 |
| 17:05.08 | Xinhuan | is the content |
| 17:05.12 | nevcairiel | season 4 is no content |
| 17:05.17 | Xinhuan | "content" then |
| 17:05.28 | nevcairiel | thats just a bunch of new items that are already half in the game |
| 17:05.29 | Xinhuan | and likely inclusive of kiljaeden |
| 17:05.36 | Chaud | .... |
| 17:05.36 | sag_ich_nicht | season 4 doesn't warrant a 2.5 |
| 17:05.37 | Kurax | They dont even need a patch for season 4 I think |
| 17:05.45 | sag_ich_nicht | they do Kurax |
| 17:05.50 | sag_ich_nicht | not all the items are ingame yet at all |
| 17:05.51 | Nandini | they do need a patch to get items into the client files |
| 17:05.59 | nevcairiel | they could do it with a 2.4.X though |
| 17:06.04 | Xinhuan | there will be one, even if its just to add talent trees to 61 points |
| 17:06.05 | Kurax | items are not in client files |
| 17:06.06 | sag_ich_nicht | probably will too |
| 17:06.08 | nevcairiel | content patches always include alot of content for everyone |
| 17:06.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: that will be called 3.0.1 |
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| 17:06.29 | sag_ich_nicht | before the storm was also 2.0.1 |
| 17:06.32 | HakkaH | I guess no one knows it |
| 17:06.35 | Xinhuan | can't really be sure |
| 17:06.36 | Dashkal | mmm, sweet sweet 3.0 |
| 17:06.43 | nevcairiel | yeah was the same with BC, a 2.0.1 patch a month before TBC was released |
| 17:06.51 | sag_ich_nicht | 3.0 will be the final beta client Dashkal |
| 17:06.54 | stew_a | and a 2.0.3 2 weeks before |
| 17:06.57 | sag_ich_nicht | 3.0.1 will be the first public client |
| 17:07.17 | Dashkal | sag_ich_nicht: I omitted the revision intentionally. I may decide to take a break between 3.0.1 and 3.0.3 so they iron things out a bit |
| 17:07.19 | nevcairiel | final beta client already was 2.0.1 iirc |
| 17:07.22 | Xinhuan | 2.0 was an overhaul though, including UI stuff, adding talents to 61 points isn't an overhaul |
| 17:07.39 | sag_ich_nicht | it wasn't just an UI overhaul |
| 17:07.47 | nevcairiel | they'll most likely to a 3.0 patch that overhauls all the game for the next expansion |
| 17:07.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it was new shading systems etc. |
| 17:07.52 | sag_ich_nicht | same will be added in 3.0 too |
| 17:07.57 | Fisker- | already been stated it's going to be 3.x |
| 17:07.58 | Dashkal | I am so hoping they don't extend talents to 61 directly like they did to 51 in 2.0. |
| 17:08.03 | Kurax | A new class type, man |
| 17:08.07 | sag_ich_nicht | they had dev a whole new shading for the snow effects |
| 17:08.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Dashkal they probably will |
| 17:08.16 | nevcairiel | Dashkal: they will |
| 17:08.22 | Dashkal | I know, but I can hope, damnit |
| 17:08.27 | Dashkal | Hybrids have been destroyed enough as it is |
| 17:08.29 | nevcairiel | i mean, 10 new levels, where would i stuff those points? |
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| 17:08.59 | sag_ich_nicht | it will probably end up being 0/0/61 specs until the expansion releases again |
| 17:09.08 | sag_ich_nicht | (or 0/61/0 or 61/0/0) |
| 17:09.22 | nevcairiel | i'm always 0/0/61 now |
| 17:09.30 | Kurax | is ready to bump all addons in trunk from 20100 to 30100 |
| 17:09.30 | sag_ich_nicht | resto druid? |
| 17:09.31 | Ixnorp | I cant imagine speccing 61 holy (priest) :O |
| 17:09.37 | Xinhuan | except that some trees of some classes are so bare that you can't even stuff 51 points into it ;p |
| 17:09.38 | nevcairiel | yea :P |
| 17:09.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol restos |
| 17:09.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan ya |
| 17:10.00 | Dashkal | Meh, there's no way for me to adjust my spec to 0/61/0 without losing things I depend on. This isn't going to be pretty (feral druid) |
| 17:10.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm 5/8/48 Xinhuan |
| 17:10.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Dashkal QQ |
| 17:10.23 | erzy | http://www.last-wish.org/upload/images/3208New%20Ui.JPG what font/Bar texture does the Unit Frames use? |
| 17:10.23 | Chaud | Do this http://wowhead.com/?talent=oZEg0zfccReRtVVG0o0xo =D |
| 17:10.26 | Ackis | why 0/61/0 ? why not 20/21/20? |
| 17:10.28 | sag_ich_nicht | you'll only need 51 points in it |
| 17:10.32 | Dashkal | Nah, I'll save the QQ until _after_ is see the new tree |
| 17:10.40 | sag_ich_nicht | so you can go 51/x/x |
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| 17:10.48 | sag_ich_nicht | because it will only need 51 points for the ultimate |
| 17:10.51 | Dashkal | I'm crossing my fingers for omen and furor to be moved into feral. |
| 17:10.52 | sag_ich_nicht | like it takes 41 now |
| 17:10.58 | sag_ich_nicht | so you can keep 10 points wherever |
| 17:11.08 | Ixnorp | I'd so spec 23/48/0 though :O |
| 17:11.15 | Ixnorp | unless the 51 point holy is amazing |
| 17:11.22 | Chaud | or even better http://wowhead.com/?talent=oZeg0zfc0RhZVVGcobxorst |
| 17:11.26 | Fix[EJ] | erzy: that looks like flat, minimalist or smoothv2 |
| 17:11.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't move 8 points out of prot unless they change something major |
| 17:11.33 | Chaud | blazing speed as deep frost |
| 17:11.36 | Chaud | would be hot |
| 17:11.41 | Chaud | along with blast wave |
| 17:11.55 | erzy | I think it's flat thanks |
| 17:12.09 | erzy | but do you know what FOnt it is aswell Fix[EJ]? |
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| 17:12.39 | Fix[EJ] | No idea. |
| 17:12.43 | Fix[EJ] | Typography ain't mah game. |
| 17:13.04 | erzy | ^^ |
| 17:14.13 | Kurax | Ah Tuesday |
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| 17:20.09 | Paene | ping Vulcanus |
| 17:20.28 | Vulcanus | y helo thar |
| 17:20.42 | Paene | hey, thanks for the help :) |
| 17:20.48 | Vulcanus | np, it didnt work tho XD |
| 17:20.51 | Paene | lol |
| 17:20.59 | Vulcanus | according to some people, foreign clients still have trouble |
| 17:21.07 | Paene | I have no clue what's causing that bug |
| 17:21.21 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r69739 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 17:21.21 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 17:21.21 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.30 | Paene | but I'm starting to think attempting to drop Babble-Spell may have been a bad idea |
| 17:22.00 | Paene | apparently low-level characters are having problems too |
| 17:22.32 | Vulcanus | but the lib will be phased out, in wotlk itll be useless |
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| 17:22.44 | Paene | yeah |
| 17:22.44 | Vulcanus | that's not it though, it works flawlessly for me, it's just that something is still not working for foreign clients |
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| 17:23.33 | Paene | Thank god we don't need to check itemid's for mounts, since the mounts people have are in their bags...I'd shoot myself if I had to convert all of those over. |
| 17:23.38 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:23.41 | LilRascal2 | sorry if this is a duplicate message, but I lost my connection |
| 17:23.42 | LilRascal2 | sorry, I've got another noob question, so I added my addon, and got the externals set and committed everything, but now when I use the WowAceUpdater to get a copy from SVN its not getting me the exterals, or creating the LIB directory, what did I do wrong? |
| 17:23.43 | ckknight | who wants to test something for me? |
| 17:23.46 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r69740 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/Locales/localization.zhCN.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Update zhCN localization of _BuffTehRaid |
| 17:23.51 | ckknight | new Curse Client, supposed to be cool, I dunno |
| 17:23.54 | CIA-39 | 03joshborke * r69741 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/ (LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua LibSharedMedia-2.0.toc): LibSharedMedia-2.0: changed the author and other metadata to ckknight as elkano had no part whatsoever in this version of the library |
| 17:24.09 | Vulcanus | thats mindless work though, I could do that easily |
| 17:24.24 | Paene | yeah |
| 17:24.33 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.00 | Paene | LilRascal2: WAU skips folders that are SVN linked, you have to manually use toirtoseSVN to do an SVN Update |
| 17:25.06 | Paene | that'll give you your external folders |
| 17:25.25 | Kurax | JJSheets: Any doc for how to use LibButtonFacade? |
| 17:25.45 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc can you please add the Eredar Twins "Shadow Image" mobs to the blacklist |
| 17:25.46 | FtH|Daemona | ? |
| 17:26.05 | Paene | Vulcanus: Actually, I think you fixed the tooltip.lua error |
| 17:26.11 | JJSheets | Kurax, most of the doc for LibButtonFacade is in the forum thread. You can also look at Bartender4 or InfiniBar-2.0 code to see how it is done in practice. |
| 17:26.26 | Vulcanus | yeah but according to people, the menus don't work and clicking the buttons does nothing |
| 17:26.38 | Kurax | JJSheets: kk, I'll check |
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| 17:26.44 | Paene | it's probably a different error somewhere |
| 17:26.51 | Pkekyo| | http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1208149942/Girl_Gets_Hilariously_Busted_For_Meeting_a_Guy_on_MySpace *chuckles* |
| 17:26.55 | JJSheets | And, of course, you can also ask me questions whenever I'm in #wowace, Kurax. :) |
| 17:27.05 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: Get me an NPC ID |
| 17:27.10 | Kurax | JJSheets: Sure I will =p |
| 17:27.12 | FtH|Daemona | wowhead ! |
| 17:27.13 | Antiarc | From Wowhead or your combat log |
| 17:27.22 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=25214 ? |
| 17:28.26 | FtH|Daemona | i got it in mobspells, its "Shadow Image" casting Dark Strike and Shadowfury |
| 17:28.31 | FtH|Daemona | guess there is only one mob by that name? |
| 17:28.48 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69742 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatBlacklist.lua: Threat-2.0: Add Shadow Image from the Eredar Twins encounter to the blacklist |
| 17:29.10 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: did you hear about my completely broken Threat-2.0 lastnight? |
| 17:29.56 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I heard about your broken combat log |
| 17:30.00 | charon | define "completely broken", i made some changes too |
| 17:30.01 | Antiarc | Or was this something different? |
| 17:30.07 | Erica | I noticed that everyone in my raid had a different version... some had Incompatible in red |
| 17:30.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah broken combatlog |
| 17:30.25 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: and omen was full of <Unknown> bars because of it |
| 17:30.27 | CIA-39 | 03lilrascal * r69743 10BombersBuddy/: BombersBuddy: Updated Externals |
| 17:32.02 | Erica | Oh Antiarc... wanted to say I love that new mod of yours... chatter :) |
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| 17:34.59 | JJSheets | is away: Lunchtime. |
| 17:35.11 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 17:35.20 | Antiarc | Incgamers got themselves tagged as a badware site |
| 17:35.37 | Xinhuan | lol?? |
| 17:35.39 | Xinhuan | where |
| 17:35.43 | Antiarc | http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefox3fz5.jpg |
| 17:35.46 | Antiarc | http://www.stopbadware.org/home/appealhistory?reportmatch=921636 |
| 17:36.11 | Xinhuan | lua> assert(234 % 23 == math.fmod(234, 23)) |
| 17:36.11 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
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| 17:36.30 | Xinhuan | lua> assert(234.5 % 23 == math.fmod(234.5, 23)) |
| 17:36.30 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
| 17:36.44 | Xinhuan | so what's the point of math.fmod ? |
| 17:36.55 | Xinhuan | lua> assert(-234.5 % 23 == math.fmod(-234.5, 23)) |
| 17:36.56 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: assertion failed! |
| 17:36.59 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:37.10 | Xinhuan | lua> print(-234.5 % 23, math.fmod(-234.5, 23)) |
| 17:37.11 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 18.5, -4.5 |
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| 17:37.41 | Nandini | ahh, negative remainders :) |
| 17:38.09 | Dashkal | Antiarc: Is there any way to get the channel substitution (General -> 1) code to ignore the channel change messages? It's somewhat strange seeing "Channel Changed: [1]" every time I zone. Better would be to either not substitute or have a way to suppress it entirely. |
| 17:38.11 | Xinhuan | lua> math.fmod("1", 2) |
| 17:38.12 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1 |
| 17:38.27 | Xinhuan | lua> math.fmod("234.5", 23) |
| 17:38.27 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 4.5 |
| 17:38.33 | DARKGuy | Antiarc: OMG you live =) |
| 17:38.35 | Nandini | Dashkal: you can suppress it entirely in the chat settings |
| 17:38.40 | Nandini | chatframe settings, that is |
| 17:38.45 | Nandini | turn off "Channel" messages |
| 17:38.56 | Dashkal | Heh, that'll be nice once those settings actually function :p |
| 17:39.02 | DARKGuy | Antiarc: how's you? xD I love chatter :D - hey is there a way you can make it behave like Minichat too? |
| 17:39.08 | Xinhuan | lua> math.fmod("1abc", 2) |
| 17:39.09 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'fmod' (number expected, got string) |
| 17:39.12 | Xinhuan | great |
| 17:39.16 | Nandini | they do function, they don't just save. get chatsettingsfix for that |
| 17:39.20 | Antiarc | What's minichat do? |
| 17:39.32 | CIA-39 | 03gamefaq * r69744 10FishermansFriend/locales/deDE.lua: FishermansFriend: deDE Update |
| 17:39.38 | Xinhuan | getn() is the same as # right? |
| 17:39.45 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 17:39.50 | Antiarc | except # works on strings too |
| 17:39.53 | LilRascal2 | Paene: I did the SVN update into my work folder, and the externals are there now, but they are still on in my Addon folder when I do the update through WAU |
| 17:39.54 | ckknight | getn's deprecated |
| 17:40.01 | DARKGuy | Antiarc: it maximizes the chat (changes size from 1 line to whatever they were) on mouse over, and minimizes it on mouse out, or no mouse action but maximize when you get a message in a special channel, etc. |
| 17:40.20 | FtH|Daemona | Zeksie could you add a check to not assign blessings to paladins that are offline in the raid? |
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| 17:40.41 | Xinhuan | lua> format("%d%%", 123.456) |
| 17:40.42 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 17:40.42 | Nandini | yuck, dealing with FCF is nasty enough without having to worry about resizing it. does minichat not work with chatter? |
| 17:40.47 | Xinhuan | lua> string.format("%d%%", 123.456) |
| 17:40.47 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 123% |
| 17:40.57 | Xinhuan | lua> string.format("%d%%", 123.890) |
| 17:40.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 123% |
| 17:41.04 | Xinhuan | truncated hmm |
| 17:41.21 | Zeksie | FtH|Daemona: You can already restrict the groups in the raid. it's not gonna be common that you want an offline pala in one of your main groups really? |
| 17:41.22 | Sais | %d is integer, no? |
| 17:41.33 | DARKGuy | Nandini: I don't know, but Minichat is VERY buggy as it doesn't save settings unless you do a /reloadui or logout, it's annoying and if you don't then it'll behave in weird ways unless you remove the saved variables of it |
| 17:41.34 | chdst | It is |
| 17:41.40 | Sais | lua> string.format("%f%%", 123.890) |
| 17:41.40 | lua_bot | Sais: 123.890000% |
| 17:41.45 | Sais | lua> string.format("%.2f%%", 123.890) |
| 17:41.45 | lua_bot | Sais: 123.89% |
| 17:42.01 | FtH|Daemona | well yeah sure... but we have some ppl that suck at logging in and get blessing of salvation assigned due to their alphabetic spot in the list ZOMG uses ;) |
| 17:42.07 | DARKGuy | Nandini: I'd assume Antiarc could make a better version of it =) and I wouldn't need to load two addons which may conflict with each other |
| 17:42.24 | Xinhuan | lua> string.format("%02X", 123.890) |
| 17:42.24 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 7B |
| 17:42.49 | Zeksie | drop them to group 6 or so? better still, tell them their raid spot got taken by a oomkin. |
| 17:43.01 | DARKGuy | I gotta run for a few mins, brb. |
| 17:44.07 | Dashkal | mmm, I need to troll the ace forums more often |
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| 17:44.28 | Dashkal | Antiarc: Thank you for tab completion |
| 17:45.14 | Xinhuan | wow this code is pretty good |
| 17:45.16 | Xinhuan | look at the logic |
| 17:45.20 | Xinhuan | if lines > getn(unit.history) then lines = getn(unit.history); end |
| 17:45.23 | Xinhuan | for line = getn(unit.history) - lines + 1, getn(unit.history) do |
| 17:45.34 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 17:46.34 | charon | "Back in my COBOL days I came across a program with three GOTO statements in a row, all to the same place. I asked the original programmer why he did that, and he replied that he wanted to make sure it really went there. Oh. I guess he only wrote one GOTO when he didn't really care if it went there or not." |
| 17:46.46 | kergoth | Xinhuan: heh, whats that from |
| 17:46.51 | Xinhuan | Expiration |
| 17:47.21 | Xinhuan | i do get that "lines" may not be equal to #unit.history) |
| 17:47.40 | nevcairiel | lol charon |
| 17:47.51 | nevcairiel | classic :) |
| 17:47.59 | nevcairiel | goto 500 |
| 17:48.03 | nevcairiel | goto 500 - really! |
| 17:48.42 | Xinhuan | lua> math.max(1, 2, 3, 4, 5) |
| 17:48.43 | LilRascal2 | anyone know why my addon is updating through WAU without the libs directory or the externals? |
| 17:48.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 5 |
| 17:51.21 | Chaud | http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/wow-inc-/1203104 |
| 17:53.31 | CIA-39 | 03gagorian * r69745 10DrDamage/Data/Druid.lua: |
| 17:53.31 | CIA-39 | DrDamage: |
| 17:53.31 | CIA-39 | - Fixed Pounce scaling (18% AP) |
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| 18:01.33 | [Liquidor] | Good day everyone. |
| 18:02.02 | Dashkal | Mwrarf |
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| 18:04.04 | Snago | LilRascal: The zip script hasn't run since you added the externals. |
| 18:04.49 | Dashkal | Ok, finally got around to reading the GatherMate thread... Node clustering? I am so sold. That is some amazing math you have going there, Xinhuan. |
| 18:05.01 | Nocts | So spellbinder is semi fail. |
| 18:05.09 | Nocts | I'm lost after moving to a different class. |
| 18:05.18 | Xinhuan | err, node clustering was released in Routes over 2 months ago |
| 18:05.29 | Dashkal | I haven't used GatherMate/Routes yet |
| 18:05.38 | Dashkal | Still on Carto_Mining/Carto_Routes |
| 18:06.01 | Snago | You've missed out, Dashkal :P |
| 18:06.02 | kenlyric | ditch carto-routes |
| 18:06.08 | Dashkal | Yes, yes I have |
| 18:06.11 | kenlyric | it's sorta half-maintained |
| 18:06.12 | Dashkal | and it'll be gone tonight |
| 18:06.15 | Xinhuan | you could be using Carto_Mining/Routes |
| 18:06.16 | chdst | Dashkal: Node Clustering? Can I get the short short version? |
| 18:06.18 | kenlyric | routes works the same |
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| 18:06.37 | Xinhuan | Routes works the same as carto_routes, but with node clustering + taboo region features |
| 18:06.39 | Dashkal | I'm going to go with Carto/GatherMate/Routes |
| 18:06.41 | LilRascal | Snago: ok thanks, so I just need to wait a bit? thought I did something wrong |
| 18:06.51 | Zyndrome | oh wtf, server crashed |
| 18:07.01 | Dashkal | chdst: If I read it right, it takes nodes close together and makes one node for the set. |
| 18:07.09 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 18:07.12 | Dashkal | So you don't get that small pile of nodes in a cave |
| 18:07.18 | chdst | It sounds so obvious when you put it that way :P |
| 18:07.25 | Xinhuan | it takes nearby nodes and collapses it into a single travel point |
| 18:07.27 | chdst | runs in shame |
| 18:07.27 | Grum | Dashkal: you use taboo-areas for that |
| 18:07.36 | Xinhuan | the "nearby nodes" is a adjustable distance per route |
| 18:07.38 | Xinhuan | default 60 yards |
| 18:07.42 | Dashkal | Grum: I thought taboo was to block that region from routes? |
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| 18:07.55 | Dashkal | I don't want a cave blocked, just not seen as 5 nodes |
| 18:08.07 | Snago | LilRascal: Yes, it should be updated any minute now.. |
| 18:08.10 | Dashkal | (Well, I may taboo the back end of a cave, but I want the mouth to count |
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| 18:08.14 | Xinhuan | taboo regions is to allow you to specify any arbitrary polygon of any number of vertices, inside of which all nodes are ignored |
| 18:08.27 | Grum | Dashkal: it is indeed, and routes are kinda useless in caves =D |
| 18:08.29 | Bruners | is there a low level druid set that gives increased travelform speed? |
| 18:08.30 | Snago | (looked at your externals and they looked OK to me) |
| 18:08.34 | Xinhuan | in addition to that, routes will not generate any route that crosses any taboo region polygon |
| 18:08.39 | Xinhuan | (if possible) |
| 18:08.41 | Dashkal | Actually, I'm more likely to use taboo to mask out mountains in old world zones |
| 18:08.46 | Nandini | bruners: not until the pvp set at level 60 |
| 18:08.48 | Xinhuan | so you can mark that horde town as out of bounds |
| 18:09.02 | Xinhuan | or that NetherWing Ledge as "i dont' want to go there" |
| 18:09.06 | Pkekyo| | hmm...how long approx does it take to learn CSS? :p |
| 18:09.09 | Xinhuan | of the Hand of Guldan as "too high to fly over" |
| 18:09.09 | Dashkal | Carto_Routes is near useless in the old world since it doesn't have a way to mask things out |
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| 18:09.19 | Grum | Pkekyo|: learn what exactly? |
| 18:09.29 | chdst | Pkekyo|: Not long at all with a good guide, imo. |
| 18:09.33 | Grum | learning CSS is easy, making it look the same in all browsers takes a lifetime to learn |
| 18:09.37 | Primer | How good are blizz about swapping items that were accidentally master looted? Fucking idiots in vent cost me the mag 20 slot bag |
| 18:09.39 | Dashkal | It's simply been "Good Enough" so I stuck with it in ignorance of Routes :p |
| 18:09.43 | chdst | Grum++ |
| 18:09.43 | Pkekyo| | Grum: everything? :> |
| 18:09.43 | Pkekyo| | I used to know it, but forgot everything and gotta finish up this website |
| 18:10.04 | Grum | Primer: Masterlooter + person who got the loot need to mail and tell to who it should go |
| 18:10.11 | Grum | and one of the item restoreslots of the masterlooter is taken |
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| 18:10.12 | Xinhuan | about 5 days Primer |
| 18:10.12 | Pkekyo| | I'm currently skimming through w3c's CSS pages |
| 18:10.14 | Arrowmaster | Primer: i dont know if they will swap that one since it drops all the time |
| 18:10.18 | Grum | you have 3 of them |
| 18:10.34 | Primer | arrowmaster: well, I got the dude's T4 chest token too |
| 18:10.36 | Grum | erm *mail* should be ticket a gm :) |
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| 18:10.37 | Xinhuan | the one thing GMs won't restore you is the badges of justice |
| 18:10.46 | ben___ | Primer: Someone misrolled Greed on some Sethekk Halls drop, we both ticketed, I had my ticket stuck on "Escalated" for a few days and then someone contacted me and swapped them |
| 18:10.48 | Primer | granted, it's for my class too, but I was supposed to get the bag, and he the token |
| 18:10.51 | Arrowmaster | Primer: ah that might be different |
| 18:10.57 | ben___ | It was a random blue item, though |
| 18:11.07 | Grum | *please* be aware you are loosing a item restore slot :) |
| 18:11.09 | Grum | and you just have 3 :) |
| 18:11.16 | Grum | so use them wisely ;) |
| 18:11.22 | Arrowmaster | you have more than 3 i think |
| 18:11.24 | Grum | nope ;( |
| 18:11.29 | Grum | found that out the hard way |
| 18:11.29 | ben___ | Is there any conclusive evidence that item restore slots work like that |
| 18:11.39 | Dashkal | with them wanting it at 3... I don't think I'd ever use one for something that could drop again |
| 18:11.40 | Grum | ben___: gm told me? |
| 18:11.44 | Xinhuan | depends on whose fault it is |
| 18:11.55 | Grum | you have had 3 items 'fixed' - and he listed the items .. and said bye |
| 18:11.56 | Arrowmaster | i dont think they ever use item restore counts with raid stuff |
| 18:11.59 | Pkekyo| | chdst: any better guides out there than w3c? |
| 18:12.02 | Grum | erm it is Arrowmaster |
| 18:12.05 | Psycho | It's a good thing GMs are always right about these things, Grum. |
| 18:12.06 | Xinhuan | generally speaking, even if its the master looter's fault, it counts as the person getting the item's restoration used |
| 18:12.07 | Grum | ML mistakes == item restore |
| 18:12.10 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 18:12.17 | Grum | it was in our guild |
| 18:12.32 | VonhintenHOME` | I've never heard anyone mention "item restore slots" before... |
| 18:12.32 | Primer | well, the reality is that I won the token roll and the bag roll (yes, it was master loot), but the idiots in vent kept saying the other dude's name in vent as the winner of the roll |
| 18:12.42 | Xinhuan | i assure you, if I MLed something wrong to A, and B should have gotten it, when B gets the item, its B's item restore that gets used |
| 18:12.44 | Primer | so he got the bag |
| 18:12.52 | Grum | erm no Xinhuan, its yours |
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| 18:12.58 | Grum | the ML gets blaimed >< |
| 18:13.05 | Primer | but then when I said I was getting pvp gear with the token, the guildies (despite it being a pug/roll run) gave me all sorts of crap |
| 18:13.07 | chdst | Pkekyo|: I'm a treekiller, I usually use the O'Reilly CSS book. For quick reference and refreshers, I go to w3schools: http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp |
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| 18:13.08 | Xinhuan | no its B's, i assure you |
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| 18:13.12 | Xinhuan | because B is getting the item |
| 18:13.23 | Grum | Xinhuan: then the GM's on my server are a bunch of cockmonkies |
| 18:13.30 | Pkekyo| | chdst: a physical book? blar :P |
| 18:13.38 | Pkekyo| | I can't afford such luxuries :< |
| 18:13.38 | chdst | Sorry! |
| 18:13.53 | Psycho | Every time I've had to do that on Deathwing it's A who submits the ticket and gets a restoration used. |
| 18:13.59 | stew_a | does anyone know who the author of spamsentry is / if they're in here? |
| 18:14.01 | Pkekyo| | you'd better be xD |
| 18:14.13 | Psycho | GMs just whine at me when I submit a ticket because I was the one who mislooted. I hate them. |
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| 18:14.47 | Dashkal | Heh, if they want to take it off of the ML... what happens when the ML has used his three? |
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| 18:14.53 | Dashkal | Sorry, anything he MLs is not up for restore? |
| 18:15.05 | Arrowmaster | so my server just disappeared from the realm list |
| 18:15.16 | EvilJohn- | maybe it's just shy |
| 18:15.17 | Arrowmaster | an its not even in the news post |
| 18:15.25 | Chaud | maybe they killed more? |
| 18:15.30 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: They deleted that server and everybody on it. Sorry |
| 18:15.33 | Psycho | I'm certain I've used more than three restorations up to this point regardless. But no, that would be silly. The whole "limited item restoration" system is silly to begin with. |
| 18:15.42 | pastamancer | having a ML screwup shouldn't count against the item restores |
| 18:16.06 | Grum | i agree pasta |
| 18:16.11 | Grum | but still it did for me |
| 18:16.17 | pastamancer | wierd |
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| 18:16.20 | Grum | yup |
| 18:16.22 | SunTsu | Psycho: Yeah, but if it wasn't limited people would always think "No matter what I do, GMs will repair it" |
| 18:16.24 | Grum | we were quite pissed |
| 18:16.24 | Primer | I'm checking svn log, and I see this: - Added zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324) |
| 18:16.27 | Primer | what's that number? |
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| 18:16.29 | pastamancer | I guess the one time it happened to me, it was actually a blizzard bug |
| 18:16.37 | Psycho | Obviously SunTsu. |
| 18:16.49 | Grum | yeah i've had it twice because of blizz fuckup |
| 18:16.50 | Mortehl | Hey guys, sorry to bother you, but do any of you guys know of a mod (preferably ace of course) which lets you know how much memory every currently running mod is using? |
| 18:16.59 | Grum | and once because of a DKP miss-reading |
| 18:17.04 | Grum | the last one wasnt fixed :( |
| 18:17.04 | Dashkal | PerformanceFu |
| 18:17.14 | Grum | because i had a blue neck restored somewhere @ lvl70 |
| 18:17.14 | Mortehl | Thank you Dashkal |
| 18:17.16 | Psycho | This is something I've come to loathe about WoW, that everyone has a completely different perception of what policies exist, and how they work. |
| 18:17.23 | pastamancer | bah |
| 18:17.25 | Mortehl | Also, someone told me a of a mod that lets you know which of your mods are spamming the mod channel |
| 18:17.30 | Mortehl | What is the name of that one? |
| 18:17.33 | Psycho | I find that it's almost always because every GM you can contact about something will give you a different answer. |
| 18:17.41 | Dashkal | Mortehl: Be careful reading the numbers. Libraries tend to get the blame for the addons using them |
| 18:17.50 | stew_a | mortehl addonspamfu |
| 18:17.51 | EvilJohn- | spam something? |
| 18:17.57 | EvilJohn- | yeah |
| 18:17.58 | EvilJohn- | i run it |
| 18:17.58 | Mortehl | thank you stew |
| 18:18.05 | SunTsu | Psycho: I had that once, by accident sold great bacers. GMs wouldn't restore them - so I got my self better bracers |
| 18:18.05 | EvilJohn- | DoTTimer is a noisy bitch |
| 18:18.26 | VonhintenHOME` | groupcalendar |
| 18:19.02 | Grum | Chatterbox memory screenshot, WTB |
| 18:19.02 | EvilJohn- | people still use that? |
| 18:19.08 | Primer | apparently that number is some forum id on a Taiwanese WoW site |
| 18:19.15 | Dashkal | My guild uses GC. GEM kept losing events |
| 18:19.15 | VonhintenHOME` | My guild does.. is there a better alternative? |
| 18:19.16 | Primer | they really love my addon! |
| 18:19.35 | EvilJohn- | don't use it? |
| 18:19.42 | VonhintenHOME` | not an option |
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| 18:20.00 | Mortehl | Thank you guys |
| 18:20.01 | dylanm | DoTimer remains the only timer that really tries to separate out units. |
| 18:20.04 | Mortehl | Have a good day. |
| 18:20.12 | Grum | Antiarc: give screenshot! |
| 18:20.22 | prefix| | http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7481/wowscrnshot041408201646hb8.jpg <- Need help, the melee crit hit haste text and stats down left on either side of buttons, cant find out what mod that is or how to move it :P |
| 18:20.53 | Chaud | you also need help with you UF placement =p |
| 18:20.58 | Chaud | *your |
| 18:21.28 | dylanm | http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9109/wowscrnshot041108050123qk4.jpg |
| 18:21.37 | kergoth | prefix|: what addon is changing the borders of everything? |
| 18:21.40 | Chaud | the melee statblock maybe? |
| 18:21.53 | Dashkal | Meh, I only know of GC and GEM for events. _are_ there any others out there? |
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| 18:22.04 | Chaud | kergoth that is just hal's borders |
| 18:22.16 | kergoth | hal's borders? |
| 18:22.20 | Chaud | from his UI |
| 18:22.30 | kergoth | ahh |
| 18:22.34 | Chaud | not an addon, just a border file thing |
| 18:22.39 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 18:22.39 | dylanm | They're pretty nice. |
| 18:22.40 | Nandini | Someone should make a calendar mod that uses guild bank tab infotext for offline storage, there wouuldn't be enough room to save attendance, but there would be enough room to list events at least |
| 18:22.43 | CIA-39 | 03barfolomeu * r69746 10FlightHUD/FlightHUD.toc: FlightHUD: Bump version to update curse.com static zip for inclusion of zhTW locale. |
| 18:22.46 | CIA-39 | 03phyber * r69747 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua: |
| 18:22.46 | CIA-39 | ManaPerc: |
| 18:22.46 | CIA-39 | - Use :GetSpell() and :GetSpellInfo() to get the spell costs now instead of scanning the tooltips. |
| 18:22.59 | kergoth | i like the idea of consistent borders in the ui, gives it a good feel |
| 18:22.59 | VonhintenHOME` | Blizzard needs to implement a guild calendar system, plain and simple |
| 18:23.01 | Xinhuan | in ace2, does the :RegisterDB() and :RegisterDefaults() need to be called in or after :OnInitialize()? |
| 18:23.17 | Xinhuan | or does calling it before work too? |
| 18:23.20 | Chaud | his UI is pretty decent |
| 18:23.23 | kergoth | OnInitialize is ADDON_LOADED iirc, so yes, in or after |
| 18:23.26 | Dashkal | That would be overkill for blizzard. And literally expensive in terms of storage space |
| 18:23.31 | VonhintenHOME` | Syncing guild events is just sloppy, noisy, and error prone |
| 18:23.39 | CIA-39 | 03neotron * r69748 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Fixed issue with not turning the combat log handling off. |
| 18:23.40 | VonhintenHOME` | No it wouldn't |
| 18:23.42 | kergoth | before wouldnt work, since the vars arent loaded yet |
| 18:23.45 | Xinhuan | are you really sure kergoth? |
| 18:23.59 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: Consider that they need database space for every single guild in the game to back it up |
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| 18:24.09 | Dashkal | HD space is cheap, not free |
| 18:24.14 | CIA-39 | 03neotron * r69749 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Fixed some issues with the new marking code. |
| 18:24.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Dash, they may actually SAVE cost doing it... take a look at how noisy groupcalendar is... |
| 18:24.33 | kergoth | er, hmm, maybe i'm thinking ace3, now i'm not sure :) |
| 18:24.34 | VonhintenHOME` | constantly syncing, every person that has it |
| 18:24.37 | NeoTron | NivFreak: well the marking code was an absolute clusterfuck in Black Temple. I figure the syncing is what completely messed it up |
| 18:24.45 | EvilJohn- | these are functions better left to a webpage |
| 18:24.48 | kergoth | well, before OnInitialize definately wouldnt work |
| 18:24.48 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: Not really. Most guilds just don't use a calendar. Web forums |
| 18:24.59 | Nandini | VonhintenHOME`: addon channel usage is already figured into their bandwidth costs |
| 18:24.59 | EvilJohn- | not relying some weird peer communication channel |
| 18:25.03 | Dashkal | EvilJohn- Not every guild has webspace. That does cost real world cash |
| 18:25.10 | kergoth | registering the db is what sets up the keys for the profiels and all in the saved variable |
| 18:25.10 | EvilJohn- | nonsense |
| 18:25.13 | EvilJohn- | just nonsense |
| 18:25.15 | Dashkal | We just had our webmaster quit the guild |
| 18:25.17 | kergoth | if you did that before the var was loaded, itd jjust get blown away |
| 18:25.21 | Dashkal | and we have no intention of replacing him |
| 18:25.29 | Ordog | gnah ... stupid alt tracker admins on a powertrip ... |
| 18:25.37 | Nandini | if your guild has a guild bank, list events in the tab info text area |
| 18:25.43 | Xinhuan | apparently i have at least 3 addons that registerDB before OnInit in the main chunk |
| 18:25.46 | Xinhuan | and they work |
| 18:25.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah it works in ace2 |
| 18:27.01 | NeoTron | NivFreak: should have learned better than trying to do last minute hacking to something right before a raid |
| 18:27.11 | Dashkal | Nandini: It's an option, but not as "simple" as a calendar mod. We want niceities like anybody can signup without having to give the entire guild the right to edit a freetext box |
| 18:27.15 | NeoTron | fortunately (I hope!) the old code remains working as usual :P |
| 18:27.30 | kergoth | ahhh right, i forgot how complex acedb 2 was |
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| 18:27.39 | Nandini | Dashkal: then live with GC's spam |
| 18:27.52 | Dashkal | Nandini: I do. Right until I find or invent something better |
| 18:27.59 | Snago | Most common bug when converting Ace2 -> Ace3 is that you need to move DB registration to inside OnInit :P |
| 18:28.01 | kergoth | Xinhuan: yea i was wrong, acedb-2.0 keeps track of what addons have been loaded and delays initializaiton if need be |
| 18:28.09 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 18:28.14 | kergoth | cant believe how many lines of code acedb-2.0 was, jesus |
| 18:28.23 | Dashkal | gogo NexusEvents :p Sadly, it's on hold while my day job has me so busy. |
| 18:28.28 | Grum | thanks dylanm |
| 18:28.34 | Nandini | gogo something even more spammy :P |
| 18:28.38 | VonhintenHOME` | The advantages to blizzard doing it outweigh the disadvantages. 1) Less addon chatter, trading storage scalability for bandwidth scalability, 2) Less addon chatter, reducing the load on the client system, 3) Providing a value-added feature that many people will use and like |
| 18:28.39 | Chaud | why do I have a SharedMediaAdditionalFonts-2.0 and SharedMediaAdditionalFonts folder in my addons =\ |
| 18:28.43 | Arrowmaster | rockdb is super picky about when you do stuff |
| 18:28.50 | Dashkal | lol, I have every intention of keeping message spam in mind while I design the sync protocol |
| 18:29.04 | Nandini | VonhintenHOME`: there you go! off to the Suggestions forum with you! |
| 18:29.04 | kergoth | Chaud: iirc at first the non 2.0 version didnt reg with lsm2, but now the base one regs with all of them, soyou can kill -2.0 |
| 18:29.12 | Chaud | thank you =) |
| 18:29.13 | kergoth | Chaud: same as 'sharedmedia' |
| 18:29.16 | Dashkal | Not much I can do about the total data being transferred, but I can be damn sure to slow down the flow. |
| 18:29.16 | kergoth | np |
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| 18:30.16 | charon | lol, Nurture (2t5) procs when i unshift from bear due to dying |
| 18:30.20 | Fisker- | OH |
| 18:30.22 | Fisker- | MY |
| 18:30.23 | Fisker- | GOD |
| 18:30.24 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 18:30.24 | Fisker- | OMG |
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| 18:30.38 | Fisker- | im srs |
| 18:30.41 | Psycho | nom nom nom? |
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| 18:30.51 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69750 10Chatter/ (25 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:30.51 | CIA-39 | Chatter: |
| 18:30.51 | CIA-39 | - Localize everything. Localizers, get to work! :P |
| 18:31.09 | Fisker- | nom nom nom indeed |
| 18:31.14 | Fisker- | i has a shield |
| 18:32.01 | kadrahil | Fisker-: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/kenpatt/WoWScrnShot_041308_005411.jpg |
| 18:32.41 | Fix[EJ] | haha |
| 18:32.41 | kadrahil | i lol'd |
| 18:32.41 | Chaud | Is there an easy way to remove random folders of stuff from addons that are no longer needed? |
| 18:33.04 | kergoth | use an updater that can delete before extracting? |
| 18:33.21 | VonhintenHOME` | ok, that picture is awesome |
| 18:33.22 | Chaud | using the last WAU now |
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| 18:33.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:33.43 | Dashkal | That reminds me. Is WAU going to get a new maintainer? |
| 18:33.50 | Apoco | Antiarc! |
| 18:33.51 | Psycho | I really should clean up my addon directory. |
| 18:33.54 | Ackis | where is RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class] defined? babble-class-2.2 references it, but I don't see where it gets it from |
| 18:33.55 | Fisker- | :D kadrahil |
| 18:33.57 | Psycho | WTF was 195MB last I checked. |
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| 18:34.05 | lagger | fonts.xml i think |
| 18:34.07 | Apoco | RAID_CLASS_COLORs is a global |
| 18:34.11 | Apoco | given from blizzard |
| 18:34.18 | Antiarc | Yes? |
| 18:34.19 | lagger | yeah its |
| 18:34.21 | lagger | in Fonts.xml |
| 18:34.22 | Ackis | ok sweet, thanks |
| 18:34.24 | Apoco | Antiarc> pm |
| 18:34.25 | Fisker- | well not unless sylvanaar releases the code i guess Dashkal |
| 18:34.53 | Antiarc | I'll check it |
| 18:34.58 | Dashkal | In that case, will it be replaced? Or is the community going to try to move away from files.wowace.com == release site? |
| 18:35.03 | Apoco | ty |
| 18:35.19 | Nandini | i use jwowupdater for general updating |
| 18:35.26 | VonhintenHOME` | as do I |
| 18:35.29 | Primer | me too |
| 18:35.29 | DARKGuy | lol kadrahil |
| 18:35.31 | Dashkal | And I |
| 18:35.33 | Primer | jwow > wau |
| 18:35.34 | DARKGuy | I use WAU. |
| 18:35.37 | NeoTron | needs to farm tonight. |
| 18:35.38 | Fisker- | kadrahil was that us servers? |
| 18:35.38 | DARKGuy | Rocks for me. |
| 18:35.41 | Dashkal | I'm thinking in terms of the general unwashed masses :p |
| 18:35.41 | CIA-39 | 03nevcairiel * r69751 10Chatter/strings.rb: Chatter: add Antiarc's localization helper script |
| 18:35.52 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd like to rewrite it in WPF and C# though... fuck java |
| 18:35.54 | DARKGuy | Antiarc! |
| 18:35.57 | Dashkal | DARKGuy: WAU is currently unmaintained. Eventually if it doesn't get picked up it'll die. |
| 18:35.59 | NeoTron | we have some brutallus kicking to do this week and I'm all out of food, almost out of flasks, need brilliant wizard oil |
| 18:36.03 | NeoTron | and all the good stuff |
| 18:36.05 | Primer | DARKGuy: It crashed the .net vm too much for me |
| 18:36.08 | Dashkal | *shudder* the .NET bit is part of why I dumped WAU |
| 18:36.20 | Dashkal | Java > .NET micotrash solution |
| 18:36.23 | nevcairiel | what do people have against .net |
| 18:36.28 | nevcairiel | its actually quite decent |
| 18:36.48 | Dashkal | Single platform and only Microsoft has any influence |
| 18:36.53 | Chaud | I used a really old version without ads for a long time =( |
| 18:36.57 | DARKGuy | I don't see the problem with .NET. I've made a full-featured C# B.Net chat bot which is way advanced than WAU is and nobody has had any problems with it |
| 18:36.58 | Aiiane | ^ what Dashkal said |
| 18:37.00 | nevcairiel | you can get .net for other platforms too |
| 18:37.01 | Dashkal | I don't trust the organization that designed vista |
| 18:37.06 | Chaud | until I got tired of the random crashes |
| 18:37.28 | DARKGuy | I find jWoW's interface ugly and harder to use than WAU |
| 18:37.41 | Dashkal | DARKGuy: You have a point there. WAU is far "prettier" |
| 18:37.41 | DARKGuy | gah, I'll just make a WAU in PyGTK :P |
| 18:37.41 | VonhintenHOME` | jWoW's interface is pretty lousy |
| 18:37.43 | kadrahil | Fisker-: yeah i think that was my home server |
| 18:38.04 | kadrahil | Fisker-: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784275485&sid=1 |
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| 18:38.08 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: yeah it is |
| 18:38.10 | Nandini | i don't see why people hate vista either, it's a couple steps in the right direction, i think people just like the comfort of xp |
| 18:38.21 | Dashkal | But I'll take functional over pretty so I'm sold. |
| 18:38.22 | Aiiane | not officially, nevcairiel |
| 18:38.24 | Chaud | I don't want to switch because I lose some FPS =\ |
| 18:38.27 | Dashkal | Nandini: It doesn't work |
| 18:38.33 | Kurax | .NET Rocks! |
| 18:38.34 | Psycho | Nandini, it's probably the same reason people hated XP and stuck with windows 98 for a while after it was released. |
| 18:38.37 | DARKGuy | I like Vista, if configured correctly it rocks... too bad it makes you lose FPS if you have Aero enabled and requires too much memory |
| 18:38.44 | DARKGuy | Psycho: true |
| 18:38.46 | Dashkal | I hate it because it fails randomly and spectacularly. |
| 18:38.55 | kadrahil | spectacularly |
| 18:39.01 | Chaud | I put it on our old computer and it is massive fail |
| 18:39.06 | Chaud | Thankfully I don't have to use that =D |
| 18:39.10 | DARKGuy | I remember being like, "HEY WTF?! Who's gonna need 512Mb RAM and 2Gb for XP!? that's INSANE" |
| 18:39.12 | kergoth | i like a few of vista's features, and will probably switch back after a sufficient # of bugfixes are available |
| 18:39.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:39.15 | Dashkal | However you spell the damn word. Blindly trusting spellcheck ftl :p |
| 18:39.15 | DARKGuy | And there you go, I use XP |
| 18:39.17 | Cartas | Vista's Aero hardly touches your FPS though :o |
| 18:39.27 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 18:39.31 | Chaud | drivers still aren't where XP ones are |
| 18:39.31 | Dashkal | I'm stuck with Vista on the laptop. Work owned hardware :S |
| 18:39.33 | DARKGuy | it makes the HD work a lot more tho |
| 18:39.35 | Chaud | for older cards anyway |
| 18:39.38 | nevcairiel | Vista itself slows my comp down like nothing else |
| 18:39.46 | Psycho | Dashkal: Those are surprises! Your OS is supposed to keep you guessing. These days the blend of Operating System and interactive hacking simulation video game with super1337 graphics is blurred. |
| 18:39.57 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 18:39.59 | Psycho | Well that last sentence came out retarded. |
| 18:40.03 | Psycho | But you knew what I was going for. |
| 18:40.04 | Cartas | Uplink? |
| 18:40.05 | Dashkal | I want my OS to get the hell out of my way damnit |
| 18:40.15 | Kurax | I switched from Vista to XP and my WoW increased like 60 on fps |
| 18:40.26 | VonhintenHOME` | I have to turn Theme support off when I remote desktop into Vista.. it's attrocious with it on |
| 18:40.26 | Dashkal | It's suppsed to "just work" and run programs. I don't want to notice the damn thing |
| 18:40.32 | Arrowmaster | ive been considering building a hackintosh |
| 18:40.51 | DARKGuy | Ew. |
| 18:40.51 | VonhintenHOME` | I get 120+ FPS on my Vista machine |
| 18:40.58 | Psycho | Dashkal: Then you want UNIX. |
| 18:40.59 | DARKGuy | Mac's hardware support is horrid |
| 18:41.04 | DARKGuy | I second Psycho |
| 18:41.06 | Dashkal | Psycho: I tun ubuntu at work |
| 18:41.13 | Dashkal | Works and stays out of my way. I love it |
| 18:41.22 | Fix[EJ] | VonhintenHOME`: What about in Shatt... :P |
| 18:41.23 | Nandini | because you have cyborg eyes, i'm sure that 120 fps is important to you :) |
| 18:41.24 | Dashkal | WOW + wine = crappy FPS for me *sigh* |
| 18:41.25 | Chaud | transparent windows with non-transparent text =\ |
| 18:41.32 | Chaud | wtb |
| 18:41.34 | VonhintenHOME` | In Shat, with lots of people, it drops to 80 FPS |
| 18:41.41 | DARKGuy | I've found out that WoW's HD load is very light compared to XP and Vista. Somehow, loading time is shortened around 20%-50% and your game doesn't lag when you turn around fast |
| 18:41.43 | Fix[EJ] | what |
| 18:41.48 | Prof_Albert | WoW + wine = 66% performance loss for me |
| 18:41.52 | Psycho | One of the tanks in our guild runs WoW via Cedega, he has no issues with it. |
| 18:41.54 | Fix[EJ] | what sort of beastly machine are you running? |
| 18:41.59 | DARKGuy | Cedega, eww. |
| 18:42.00 | Fix[EJ] | or do you have all the textures turned down |
| 18:42.04 | VonhintenHOME` | But, I run 1950x1200, maxed settings in DX and game |
| 18:42.04 | Dashkal | Prof_Albert: That's about right. I fell from 60 to 24 |
| 18:42.23 | Arrowmaster | some people get better fps with wine than windows |
| 18:42.30 | Dashkal | That kind of loss is just to much for me. So XP survives |
| 18:42.30 | VonhintenHOME` | Flying through Terokkar on epic flyer is about 30 FPS though, with those settings |
| 18:42.32 | DARKGuy | my FPS stays constant at 20-25 in all areas |
| 18:42.33 | kenlyric | he's apparently running WoW on id's dev machines |
| 18:42.39 | Dashkal | But I will not upgrade to XP until forced. |
| 18:42.41 | DARKGuy | instances and BGs don't go lower than 30 tho =) |
| 18:42.44 | Dashkal | erm, from XP |
| 18:42.57 | DARKGuy | lol kenlyric |
| 18:42.57 | Chaud | Babble-2.2-Compat and Babble-2.2 both still useful? |
| 18:43.07 | Fix[EJ] | Seriously, what machine setup, VonhintenHOME` |
| 18:43.15 | Arrowmaster | Chaud: Babble-2.2-Compat has never been useful |
| 18:43.20 | Chaud | *still used =p |
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| 18:43.29 | VonhintenHOME` | It's pretty new, about a month, month and a half old |
| 18:43.36 | Kurax | Some mods are still using 2.2 |
| 18:43.42 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69752 10Chatter/ (Localization/enUS.lua Modules/LinkHover.lua modules.xml): Chatter: Add LinkHover module. Thanks Apoco! |
| 18:43.42 | VonhintenHOME` | 3.0 dual core, 8800 GTS 512 |
| 18:43.44 | DARKGuy | I'd bet he has 3 8800GTX in SLI, 8Gb prototype RAM and his computer is mineral-oil cooled stuck inside a fish tank |
| 18:43.50 | Apoco | xD |
| 18:43.53 | prefix| | [@kergoth] prefix|: what addon is changing the borders of everything? |
| 18:44.00 | prefix| | eePanels + just faded border etc |
| 18:44.03 | Arrowmaster | link hover? |
| 18:44.05 | prefix| | http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7481/wowscrnshot041408201646hb8.jpg <- Need help, the melee crit hit haste text and stats down left on either side of buttons, cant find out what mod that is or how to move it :P |
| 18:44.07 | prefix| | need to fix that btw |
| 18:44.07 | Arrowmaster | whats link hover do? |
| 18:44.09 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, nah, 1 CPU (dual), 1 Vid card |
| 18:44.10 | prefix| | cause it's bugging me |
| 18:44.16 | Apoco | Arrowmaster: You hover over links to show the tooltips |
| 18:44.20 | Apoco | instead of clicking the items |
| 18:44.21 | Chaud | =O |
| 18:44.24 | Apoco | or quests |
| 18:44.25 | Apoco | or |
| 18:44.25 | Chaud | nice |
| 18:44.29 | Apoco | anything like that ~_~ |
| 18:44.31 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: great so now im goin got have conflicts with tekKompare |
| 18:44.38 | Apoco | shouldn't |
| 18:44.40 | Apoco | I never have |
| 18:44.44 | Fix[EJ] | I don't get it, I'm running a core2quad (q6600) and an 8800GT, yet I'm sitting at 30fps here in Shatt |
| 18:44.52 | Apoco | Fix[EJ]: Problem: 8800GT |
| 18:44.54 | Chaud | at what res? |
| 18:44.55 | VonhintenHOME` | The GT is slower |
| 18:45.01 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: tekKompare does the exact same thing |
| 18:45.11 | Apoco | it shouldnt affect it ~_~ |
| 18:45.13 | Fix[EJ] | well yes, but WoW isn't exactly videocard intensive |
| 18:45.23 | VonhintenHOME` | It is at high settings |
| 18:45.34 | Chaud | I have to run with everything on low almost =\ |
| 18:45.39 | Fix[EJ] | to the tune of GT vs. GTS |
| 18:45.50 | Chaud | 6600 @ 1680x1050 fails |
| 18:45.54 | Ackis | Ping ammo |
| 18:45.56 | Pkekyo| | CSS...how to define text/font padding? |
| 18:45.58 | mikma | prefix|: get DevTools and use /dtframestack |
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| 18:46.04 | Psycho | Fix[EJ]: I notice my FPS likes to snap to certain values regardless of how well my PC would perform otherwise. It will sit right at 60 a lot of the time without budging up or down, and then drop to exactly 30 for a while. I guess it could be a mod problem, but just throwing that out there. |
| 18:46.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Fix, the one setting I don't have maxed is the multisampling |
| 18:46.20 | DARKGuy | I run WoW at 1280x1024 @ highest settings (except bloom & antialiasing because that kills my FPS) in my P4 3.0Ghz / 512Mb DDR2 / 7200GS 512 DDR2 xD |
| 18:46.21 | VonhintenHOME` | I have mine at the highest depth setting, but only 2x |
| 18:46.21 | Chaud | Psycho isn't that what vsync / triple buffer does? |
| 18:46.26 | Nandini | Psycho: you have vsync enabled |
| 18:46.32 | DARKGuy | triple buffer ftw!!!!!! |
| 18:46.36 | Psycho | Well, there you go then. |
| 18:46.42 | Psycho | I was just in the middle of typing that. |
| 18:46.44 | Aiiane | Pkekyo|, as in web CSS? |
| 18:46.47 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:46.48 | Psycho | You people must watch your IRC windows like hawks. |
| 18:46.58 | Chaud | have it up in the corner =D |
| 18:47.01 | Pkekyo| | Aiiane: no, counter-strike source? yes web CSS :p |
| 18:47.04 | DARKGuy | Does it looks like I'm at work? |
| 18:47.05 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 18:47.20 | Nandini | i'm gainfully unemployed |
| 18:47.32 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69753 10Chatter/Modules/LinkHover.lua: Chatter: Disable player link hovering. It doesn't work. |
| 18:47.32 | DARKGuy | and I'm about to get a raise this May |
| 18:47.34 | DARKGuy | dances |
| 18:47.38 | Pkekyo| | geif raise |
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| 18:47.45 | DARKGuy | geif oO |
| 18:47.48 | Psycho | DARKGuy: People @ work represent. |
| 18:47.59 | Aiiane | selector { padding: TOPpx RIGHTpx BOTTOMpx LEFTpx } |
| 18:48.03 | Primer | raise? what's that? |
| 18:48.06 | hypetech | <-- at work |
| 18:48.11 | dylanm | Or maybe Cansei de Ser Sexy? |
| 18:48.13 | Chaud | must come with that job thing |
| 18:48.16 | DARKGuy | Psycho: I don't understand o.o |
| 18:48.17 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:48.19 | Dashkal | Xinhuan: Is there any way to take a blacklisted polygon in Routes and have it blacklist _only_ for node detection (not for flying over?) Thinking of caves. |
| 18:48.19 | Pkekyo| | Aiiane: selector? |
| 18:48.19 | Psycho | It's what they use to fool you into thinking you're getting more money even though inflation is outpacing you. |
| 18:48.21 | Aiiane | you can omit any number of them off the right, they're mirroed if you omit them |
| 18:48.25 | DARKGuy | dunno, betteer paycheck? :P |
| 18:48.26 | Aiiane | Pkekyo|: just what element you're modifying |
| 18:48.33 | DARKGuy | lol yeah Psycho |
| 18:48.35 | Aiiane | i.e. ".class", "#id", or "TAG" |
| 18:48.36 | Dashkal | There's a cave in zangamarsh that has nodes in it and above it |
| 18:48.36 | Xinhuan | Dashkal, no |
| 18:48.37 | DARKGuy | =( |
| 18:48.59 | DARKGuy | Work + University = only 30 minutes daily for WoW T_T |
| 18:49.00 | Dashkal | I can carefully draw the line to cover only the cave, but that'll make the route strangfe |
| 18:49.01 | Psycho | And that, friends, is why I have done almost nothing so far today. |
| 18:49.06 | Psycho | Thank god there's an active IRC channel to be in. |
| 18:49.17 | DARKGuy | yeah, damn you all |
| 18:49.21 | DARKGuy | I haven't done anything today |
| 18:49.22 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:49.22 | Pkekyo| | Aiiane: might actually work...cheers |
| 18:49.25 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r69754 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: Multibossdeath |
| 18:49.25 | Primer | I wonder how popular the pt_BR version of wow is. I should add that locale...since I can do it myself |
| 18:49.31 | Aiiane | Pkekyo|: for more details, http://htmlhelp.com/reference/css/ is a good guide |
| 18:49.34 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:49.34 | kergoth | ~irc |
| 18:49.35 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 18:49.44 | DARKGuy | old, but funny :P |
| 18:49.45 | Dashkal | pt_BR. Brazil? |
| 18:49.52 | Primer | yes |
| 18:50.02 | Arrowmaster | thats not an official locale is it? |
| 18:50.03 | kergoth | it used to say irc was a collossal time sink, at one point |
| 18:50.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:50.12 | Primer | dunno |
| 18:50.14 | Aiiane | Slightly less old, but still funny: "I'd better do my human call: 'I'm so wasted, I'm so wasted!' --Night Elf" |
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| 18:50.29 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 18:50.31 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 18:51.03 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r69755 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/ (. Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc addon.lua embeds.xml): |
| 18:51.03 | CIA-39 | Cartographer_QuestObjectives: |
| 18:51.03 | CIA-39 | - Update to use Babble-Zone-3.0 |
| 18:51.03 | CIA-39 | - Removed Babble-Class-3.0 refs |
| 18:51.10 | DARKGuy | I wonder if there is a way to force a locale change in WoW |
| 18:51.24 | Apoco | Adding talent scanning into aXRS was more work than its worth :( |
| 18:51.25 | DARKGuy | I've tried editing the WTF file without avail |
| 18:51.25 | Arrowmaster | yes, /console locale |
| 18:51.38 | Aiiane | On a side note... <disclaimer>yes I know Ace is an SVN and not an addon site</disclaimer> it'd still be nice to be able to flag versions as "stable" in a standardized fashion, and have an option to download the latest stable version, all on-site |
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| 18:52.05 | Josh_Borke | Aiiane: sure, just get all of the addon authors to stop developing in trunk |
| 18:52.10 | Aiiane | Josh_Borke: heh |
| 18:52.12 | Dashkal | Aiiane: I think Kaltan is (slowly) working on that. He's promised to reorganize the svn |
| 18:52.14 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster: so it's the same as if I use SET locale "es_VE" ? |
| 18:52.14 | Primer | Aiiane: I only put my addon in trunk once it's stable. I do all my dev in a branch |
| 18:52.29 | Arrowmaster | DARKGuy: it has to be a supported locale |
| 18:52.31 | Apoco | See, I know we say Wowace.com is not a "stable" release site, but honestly, I would say atleast 50% of the mods arent released anywhere else. |
| 18:52.39 | Aiiane | That's what I figured, but unfortunately that's putting the onus on the wrong people imo :P |
| 18:52.44 | Josh_Borke | Apoco: i'd say more like 75% of teh mods aren't |
| 18:52.49 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster: how do I know what are the supported ones? that's why it musn't be working for me xD |
| 18:52.53 | Aiiane | 75%? That's low in my experience |
| 18:52.58 | DARKGuy | *must not |
| 18:53.00 | Apoco | Or they are, but they are old outdated versions |
| 18:53.05 | Arrowmaster | DARKGuy: the supported ones are the ones you have installed for wow |
| 18:53.10 | Aiiane | at least, more than 75% aren't published to other sites by their *own authors* |
| 18:53.14 | Pkekyo| | Aiiane: not working :< |
| 18:53.23 | Aiiane | some are published to other sites by 3rd parties |
| 18:53.25 | chdst | It really is the responsibility of the developers to develop in branches and merge to the trunk, tagging milestones as appropriate. |
| 18:53.27 | Aiiane | which is questionable at best |
| 18:53.28 | chdst | Me two bits. |
| 18:53.31 | Aiiane | Pkekyo|: pastey? |
| 18:53.33 | Apoco | like curse has mods that are 5+ months old when WAU has new and working |
| 18:53.34 | VonhintenHOME` | You know why I started using wowace.com for my addon pulls? Because on patch day, every other site was non-responsive while getting slammed. |
| 18:53.42 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster: oh, so if I have the en_US client, I can't have my AddOns show in a different language ? |
| 18:53.44 | VonhintenHOME` | And that's exactly why a lot of other people started as well. |
| 18:53.53 | Josh_Borke | wowace won't always be here |
| 18:53.53 | Arrowmaster | DARKGuy: no |
| 18:53.55 | Pkekyo| | Aiiane: inbound |
| 18:53.59 | Apoco | I don't release my mods on Curse/etc |
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| 18:54.09 | Apoco | more user support ftl |
| 18:54.11 | Josh_Borke | i don't release my mods on wowace :-) |
| 18:54.12 | Dashkal | Josh_Borke: This is true, but if it dissappears, someone will probably try to fill the vacuum. |
| 18:54.13 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster: sucks =( |
| 18:54.30 | Apoco | "I want this mod to do my dailies for me! WHY CANT IT!" |
| 18:54.44 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 18:54.45 | Aiiane | "Because you're a lazy bum, go away" |
| 18:54.47 | Prof_Albert | DARKGuy: get a language pack and watch alle the savedVars going down the toilet on logging in ;) |
| 18:54.48 | chdst | SickOfClickingDailies is about as good as it gets. I <3 that mod. :P |
| 18:54.50 | Aiiane | ^ user support, solved |
| 18:55.15 | DARKGuy | Prof_Albert: XD as long as they work afterwards I'm happy, how can you get a lang. pack? :O |
| 18:55.15 | Pkekyo| | Aiiane: PM inbound |
| 18:55.17 | Apoco | DARKGuy: Ace-Locale-3.0 allows you to test mods in other localizations I believe. |
| 18:55.36 | Arrowmaster | i dont think so |
| 18:55.40 | Dashkal | Though if wowace ever decides to stop releasing zips to save bandwidth, I'd adapt and actually make a curse account. |
| 18:55.54 | DARKGuy | I'd SVN it all. SVN ftw. |
| 18:55.56 | Apoco | pretty sure it does Arrowmaster |
| 18:55.58 | DARKGuy | Apoco: really? |
| 18:55.59 | Grum | you could just overwrite GetLocale by function() return "deDE" end; orso :P .. but that is not all of the locale changes you would get |
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| 18:56.05 | Prof_Albert | DARKGuy: in europe you can get it www.wow-europe.com in the accountmanagement |
| 18:56.08 | VonhintenHOME` | WTB auto-updater functionality to remove non-US english locales from my addons for faster zone times! Get to work! |
| 18:56.21 | Arrowmaster | you mean login times? |
| 18:56.51 | Apoco | -- GAME_LOCALE allows translators to test translations of addons without having that wow client installed |
| 18:56.56 | Dashkal | please say that's login only. I didn't _think_ that addons were reloaded on instance zoning... |
| 18:57.04 | DARKGuy | Prof_Albert: ah, but I need a WoW account u.u |
| 18:57.20 | Apoco | line 64: AceLocale-3.0 |
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| 18:57.40 | Apoco | never tested it, but its there. |
| 18:57.47 | DARKGuy | interesting :D |
| 18:57.53 | Apoco | Ammo bitched about it, but its there |
| 18:58.03 | Arrowmaster | in the past that would probably break a lot of stuff |
| 18:58.04 | Prof_Albert | Apoco so GAME_LOCALE is a global var that can be set i.e. on login? |
| 18:58.09 | Apoco | No idea. |
| 18:58.21 | Apoco | Never tested it :) |
| 18:58.22 | Apoco | lol |
| 18:58.29 | Arrowmaster | since locales arent just for displaying stuff, but for reading stuff from the ui |
| 18:58.46 | Apoco | it was added to allow authors to test their own mods with different localizations |
| 18:58.50 | Apoco | not to play in another localization |
| 18:59.07 | Antiarc | http://youtube.com/watch?v=WQT31515sf8 |
| 18:59.08 | DARKGuy | I have a couple of guild mates that don't know english very well, and there is a spanish localization for most of them, they'd be glad if they could configure their addons in spanish (and me too, they won't bother me anymore >.<) |
| 18:59.18 | DARKGuy | *for most of their addons |
| 18:59.25 | Apoco | Tell them to localize them then |
| 18:59.28 | Apoco | or learn english? |
| 18:59.37 | DARKGuy | I doubt they will =p |
| 18:59.42 | Apoco | then QQ more imo |
| 18:59.46 | Prof_Albert | Apoco: testing locales was my intention... I'll try after raid |
| 18:59.51 | Apoco | thats what I tell my guildies when they bitch about other mods |
| 18:59.54 | DARKGuy | not the solution I'm looking for, else I wouldn't be asking. |
| 19:00.05 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 19:00.08 | Apoco | lol |
| 19:00.17 | DARKGuy | I'm not the RTFM L2WOW kind of guy |
| 19:00.23 | Apoco | ooo |
| 19:00.28 | Apoco | thats a good one. I'll start using that |
| 19:00.31 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 19:00.46 | Apoco | wtb guild <PST = Please Send Tell> |
| 19:00.54 | kergoth | -everyone- is an RTFM kind of guy, when enough people piss you off with their whining |
| 19:00.59 | Apoco | ^ |
| 19:01.00 | kergoth | just a m,atter of rreaching that threshold |
| 19:01.05 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 19:01.20 | DARKGuy | I'm pretty tolerant, so they're not -that- of a nuisance |
| 19:01.25 | DARKGuy | but eh, y'know. |
| 19:01.34 | Apoco | If people find problems with my mods, I fix them rather quickly, but I will not go into other peoples mods and change them. That is wrong. |
| 19:01.42 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 19:01.44 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: l2wow |
| 19:01.46 | Apoco | Atleast without permission. |
| 19:01.51 | Apoco | kergoth: find me more bugs. |
| 19:02.02 | DARKGuy | changing the locale isn't something very intrusive, if you can just change a global variable that all other mods will read |
| 19:02.02 | Aiiane | anyone that can check something quick? when i go to log into wow it immediately disconnects from server after pressing login |
| 19:02.15 | Aiiane | other people getting the same or is it on my end? |
| 19:02.28 | Apoco | Aiiane: Chances are someone else is trying to login to the account, change your pw |
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| 19:03.11 | Apoco | lol -- GAME_LOCALE allows translators to test translations of addons without having that wow client installed |
| 19:03.13 | Apoco | err |
| 19:03.19 | Aiiane | Apoco: Doubtful, since this particular phase is reminiscent of previous login server outages I've seen |
| 19:03.21 | DARKGuy | wtf |
| 19:03.22 | Ackis | whoever was looking for a EU dl |
| 19:03.24 | Aiiane | but meh, never hurts to be safe |
| 19:03.24 | Ackis | http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/downloads/files/wow-trial/WoW-deDE-Installer-downloader.exe |
| 19:03.41 | Grum | Antiarc: how is the tab-completion coming along? :D |
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| 19:04.03 | DARKGuy | Ackis: hey thanks :D is that one in spanish? |
| 19:04.12 | Nandini | that one's german |
| 19:04.12 | Ackis | DarkGuy it's deDE |
| 19:04.15 | Apoco | Antiarc: Chatter: Disable player link hovering. It doesn't work. <-- I said that didn't work :p |
| 19:04.21 | DARKGuy | ah |
| 19:04.21 | Ackis | http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/downloads/files/wow-trial/WoW-esES-Installer-downloader.exe |
| 19:04.23 | Ackis | that's spanish |
| 19:04.28 | DARKGuy | whee thanks :D |
| 19:04.32 | Apoco | change the de's to SP |
| 19:04.38 | Ackis | and if you replace the esES w/ frFR you get francais oui |
| 19:04.38 | DARKGuy | ES :P |
| 19:04.39 | Apoco | and the europes to mexico |
| 19:04.45 | Apoco | :p |
| 19:05.03 | Ackis | chaud, come run my rogue through mana tombs |
| 19:05.13 | Chaud | plz no |
| 19:05.18 | Aiiane | yeah, Apoco |
| 19:05.18 | Ackis | plz yes |
| 19:05.34 | Nandini | i wonder if i were to serialize all the event and attendance data that GC uses, how much space it would take |
| 19:05.42 | Aiiane | we're talking Connecting -> Authenticating -> Disconnected from Server, all in under a second or os |
| 19:05.43 | Aiiane | *so |
| 19:05.53 | Aiiane | I think blizz's servers are just borken |
| 19:05.59 | Apoco | I doubt you can play with the euro client with an enUS account |
| 19:06.07 | Apoco | but I dunno about their security mesures |
| 19:06.07 | Aiiane | since it has no problems telling me when I've entered a wrong password :P |
| 19:06.52 | Chaud | I am busy arguing with people |
| 19:07.25 | CIA-39 | 03apoco * r69756 10aX_RaidStatus/ (RaidStatusCore.lua locales/enUS.lua): aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): - Added error messages for hybrid specs and unknown specs. |
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| 19:08.31 | Fisker- | HAX |
| 19:08.40 | Fisker- | Akama is a Rogue/Shaman/Paladin hybrid |
| 19:09.00 | Arrowmaster | ? |
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| 19:09.26 | Fisker- | he casts poisons, judgements and chain lightning |
| 19:09.38 | hypetech | judgements? |
| 19:09.44 | Ackis | it's not akama, it's a , |
| 19:09.45 | Arrowmaster | hes just a broken |
| 19:10.02 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 19:10.22 | Fisker- | yeah hypetech |
| 19:10.42 | CIA-39 | 03apoco * r69757 10RBM/CooldownWatch/CooldownWatch.lua: |
| 19:10.42 | CIA-39 | RBM: |
| 19:10.42 | CIA-39 | - CooldownWatch: |
| 19:10.42 | CIA-39 | -- Change: Names to SpellID's (diaf everyone) |
| 19:10.42 | CIA-39 | -- Change: HiddenCooldown Methods, now gives item cooldown and optional buff time. (tell me if any are wrong, had to guess on some) |
| 19:11.08 | Ackis | lol apoco |
| 19:11.20 | Apoco | had no problems with names. |
| 19:11.38 | CIA-39 | 03cronan * r69758 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:11.38 | CIA-39 | FuBar_SWStats2Fu: |
| 19:11.38 | CIA-39 | - Sharing Setting feature now works |
| 19:11.38 | CIA-39 | - Add some options for Live Target |
| 19:11.53 | Apoco | I am going to dread doing De|BuffWatch when they add in a way to get buff/debuff id's |
| 19:11.54 | Apoco | :( |
| 19:12.02 | VonhintenHOME` | Nandini, a reduction in the amount of traffic would speed up syncing, and that means less errors would creep in due to the disconnected nature of it |
| 19:12.02 | Ackis | so is there a new hot/dot timer for chronometer? |
| 19:13.34 | VonhintenHOME` | But, nothing's going to fix its fundamental problem of losing event data when the whole guild logs off, then someone logs in |
| 19:13.58 | VonhintenHOME` | there needs to be a central repository, sigh |
| 19:14.15 | Apoco | nevcairiel: whats strings.rb? |
| 19:14.21 | Ackis | Apoco, aren't buff/debuffs = spellIDs? |
| 19:14.41 | Apoco | Ackis: they ARE spellID's, but we can't get SpellID's from Buffs/Debuffs |
| 19:14.43 | Nandini | VonhintenHOME`: I argued during the original development of guild banks that guilds should be allowed to purchase data storage units as well |
| 19:14.44 | Antiarc | You can see SPELL_AURA_APPLIED in the combat log |
| 19:14.52 | Antiarc | But you can't get spell IDs frmo existing buffs/debuffs |
| 19:14.55 | Apoco | ^ |
| 19:15.02 | Nandini | this was eventually implemented as tabinfotext in 2.4 |
| 19:15.03 | Antiarc | Apoco: You could store a lookup table of buff name -> buff ID |
| 19:15.16 | Antiarc | Since you can watch the buffs that get applied to the player |
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| 19:15.31 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, well, I think that might be a little too abstract an idea for most people |
| 19:15.37 | Aiiane | 10[12:11] Antiarc: 01But you can't get spell IDs frmo existing buffs/debuffs |
| 19:15.43 | Aiiane | ^ that seems like a major oversight |
| 19:15.47 | Aiiane | in the API design |
| 19:15.55 | Apoco | Agreed. |
| 19:16.02 | Grum | i wish you could get 'time left' as well |
| 19:16.04 | Antiarc | I requested it during the 2.4 PTR but it seems to have been ignored |
| 19:16.06 | Apoco | I am hoping they add it in 2.4.2 |
| 19:16.17 | Apoco | You can get TimeLeft from UnitDe|Buff() |
| 19:16.26 | Saroz | does UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED fire for all units? |
| 19:16.43 | Grum | Apoco: even on 'other debuffs' ? |
| 19:16.43 | Antiarc | no |
| 19:16.47 | Apoco | No |
| 19:16.52 | Grum | erm other's |
| 19:16.59 | Apoco | If you didn't cast the debuff there is no way to determine the exact time |
| 19:16.59 | Grum | so its fail |
| 19:17.03 | Apoco | We could guess, but thats it. |
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| 19:17.10 | Grum | well, if you see the application |
| 19:17.16 | Apoco | since an event isnt fired with a debuff or buff is reapplied if its already up |
| 19:17.28 | Grum | but it is fired if it stacks right? |
| 19:17.34 | Apoco | if it stacks yes. |
| 19:17.48 | prefix| | [mikma] prefix|: get DevTools and use /dtframestack <- who where what |
| 19:17.48 | Grum | what event do you need to listen fore? |
| 19:17.49 | Apoco | Instance: Another hunter casts Hunter's Mark (2m Dur) |
| 19:17.50 | Grum | *for |
| 19:17.53 | Apoco | 30 seconds later he recasts it |
| 19:17.57 | Apoco | I can't tell that he refreshed it |
| 19:17.59 | Grum | you see nothing :) |
| 19:18.00 | Apoco | nothing is fired. |
| 19:18.03 | Apoco | exactly |
| 19:18.08 | Grum | yeah, only the hunter knows he casted it right? |
| 19:18.12 | Apoco | Correct. |
| 19:18.13 | Grum | same with any instant-casts? |
| 19:18.18 | Apoco | Same with any debuff. |
| 19:18.27 | mikma | ~devtools |
| 19:18.27 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 19:18.27 | Apoco | if I have fort on and its refreshed on me, nothing is fired |
| 19:18.29 | Grum | what about mouse-over-healing ? |
| 19:18.31 | mikma | prefix|: ^---- |
| 19:18.48 | Grum | can you see the target of that? |
| 19:18.54 | Apoco | target of? |
| 19:19.04 | Nandini | for guild type events where attendance would be tracked, would 15 minute precision be long enough for starting times? |
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| 19:19.15 | Nandini | small enough precision that is |
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| 19:19.29 | Nandini | i.e., does anyone ever schedule events to start at 13:37? |
| 19:19.31 | Apoco | Grum: Targe tof? |
| 19:19.41 | Tularis | I'd go for 15 min yeah |
| 19:19.47 | Grum | Apoco: that never worked pre 2.4 |
| 19:19.50 | VonhintenHOME` | Nandini, I think 15 would be suitable, but some people might argue 10 |
| 19:19.54 | Tularis | you could possibly argue for 10 idd |
| 19:20.01 | Apoco | Antiarc: The Copy button still doesn't work when chat settings are locked! :p |
| 19:20.04 | Grum | someone with grid+clique wouldn't show what they were healing |
| 19:20.10 | Tularis | but that's usually a "well, let's just wait 10 more min" kind of thing |
| 19:20.25 | Antiarc | Apoco: I know. It's on the todo list. |
| 19:20.29 | Apoco | lol |
| 19:20.36 | Grum | Antiarc: tab completion? ;D |
| 19:20.45 | Apoco | Hey! Me first! |
| 19:20.56 | DARKGuy | purl: damn that's so goo.d |
| 19:20.57 | purl | ACTION damns that's so goo.d to the bowels of bloody hell forever. |
| 19:20.58 | Antiarc | Grum: It's in |
| 19:21.03 | Grum | haha me firsrt |
| 19:21.06 | Grum | ~lart Apoco |
| 19:21.06 | purl | does a little 'renice 20 -u Apoco' |
| 19:21.06 | Nandini | i'm seeing how far ahead i can count times based on my own epoch starting 2008-01-01 in 15 minute intervals and in how many bytes |
| 19:21.08 | DARKGuy | hey Antiarc you ever took note of my Minichat suggestion? XD |
| 19:21.14 | DARKGuy | lol Pucmel |
| 19:21.16 | DARKGuy | *purl |
| 19:21.17 | DARKGuy | fail. |
| 19:21.22 | Antiarc | DARKGuy: I'll think about it, but I'm not sure I want to code up minichat :P |
| 19:21.47 | Grum | guess i have to go install chatterbox |
| 19:21.50 | Apoco | Minichat is a great idea of a mod |
| 19:21.53 | DARKGuy | Antiarc: eh, it's just some chat resize and options. I'd write it myself but I'm lazy to learn LUA and /reloadui a ton. |
| 19:21.57 | DARKGuy | yeah it is |
| 19:21.58 | Apoco | but honestly, in the 5 months I had it installed, I never used it. |
| 19:22.42 | Apoco | Can I transfer from US > EU servers? :( |
| 19:22.50 | Grum | what is it Apoco? minichat?: |
| 19:22.54 | Nandini | Apoco: no you cannot |
| 19:22.55 | Apoco | Correct |
| 19:22.56 | Apoco | beh |
| 19:22.57 | Apoco | bleh* |
| 19:23.03 | DARKGuy | gaah nobody knows what's minichat |
| 19:23.05 | DARKGuy | I feel so lonely |
| 19:23.08 | DARKGuy | and deserted |
| 19:23.09 | Saroz | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED don't show Taunt :| |
| 19:23.13 | chdst | Minichat = cool |
| 19:23.21 | chdst | Like little chat drawers |
| 19:23.23 | DARKGuy | Minichat is better than xkcd. |
| 19:23.30 | DARKGuy | chdst: no, that's dreamchat |
| 19:23.31 | chdst | DARKGuy: BLASPHEMY |
| 19:23.32 | Dashkal | Blasphemy |
| 19:23.33 | charon | Saroz: it shows my Growl at least |
| 19:23.36 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 19:23.36 | Dashkal | lol |
| 19:23.50 | xyu | xkcd? wtf is that |
| 19:23.57 | DARKGuy | BLASPHEMY |
| 19:23.58 | Dashkal | ~lart xyu |
| 19:23.58 | purl | whacks xyu upside the head |
| 19:24.00 | Grum | give screenshots of dreamchat+minichat .. now! |
| 19:24.02 | xyu | someone smashed their head on the keyboard to come up with that acronym |
| 19:24.07 | Aiiane | hmm... one of these days as a side project I need to implement the addon idea I keep reminding myself of when I play my pally alt |
| 19:24.08 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 19:24.08 | xyu | i'm going to make an addon called...hold on |
| 19:24.13 | xyu | xfop |
| 19:24.16 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 19:24.17 | Apoco | I had minichat installed for ~5months but never used it at all. |
| 19:24.22 | xyu | that's what i smashed |
| 19:24.24 | Dashkal | at least that wasn't an 'a' ... |
| 19:24.26 | Apoco | it was an "oh cool I can hide this shit" but never hide it. |
| 19:24.31 | Saroz | charon, hrm |
| 19:24.36 | Ackis | Saroz: I was getting random people shoing up with heroism last night in the raid... I'm horde however (PS: thanks for getting rid of babblespell <3) |
| 19:24.36 | Apoco | hid* |
| 19:24.44 | chdst | My description might suck, but it's minichat I'm thinking of. :) |
| 19:24.45 | Saroz | Ackis, on it :) |
| 19:24.52 | AKX | .... Does DreamChat still work? More accurately, is someone still developing it? |
| 19:25.00 | Apoco | MiniChat let you shrink chat windows |
| 19:25.04 | Apoco | Dock can do the same thing now. |
| 19:25.09 | Ackis | have you been able to track down the Prayer of Mending issue? |
| 19:25.14 | Nandini | i wonder if i can hide the guild bank info tab safely |
| 19:25.17 | VonhintenHOME` | Heroism is the name of the buff that Shard of Contempt procs... |
| 19:25.23 | VonhintenHOME` | as well as the shaman buff |
| 19:25.25 | Nandini | as in disable it |
| 19:25.31 | Apoco | Nandini: /script GuildBankInfoTab:Hide() |
| 19:25.32 | Apoco | lol |
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| 19:25.41 | Saroz | Ackis ? |
| 19:25.41 | Apoco | (Guessing) |
| 19:25.58 | Ackis | Saroz: prayer of mending doesn't show up |
| 19:26.31 | erzy | Is it possible to add buff-spacing between buffs in Pitbull, Vertically |
| 19:26.45 | prefix| | ok how do you move the quickstats frame? Since it just shows text.. |
| 19:26.48 | DARKGuy | Minichat: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7881 =) |
| 19:26.50 | charon | Saroz: to be precise, i first get spell_cast_success, then _aura_applied, then _aura_removed, pretty much what i'd expect |
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| 19:26.55 | DARKGuy | no screenies though, I think... |
| 19:27.05 | Saroz | Ackis, in buffs? |
| 19:27.32 | Ackis | saroz: on the raid frames when I cast it, and even if I put it in the white list thing for buffs |
| 19:27.42 | Saroz | Ackis, what buff display you have? |
| 19:27.47 | Apoco | People still use KTM? |
| 19:27.47 | VonhintenHOME` | erzy, I haven't found a way to really mess with buff/debuff placement.. it's pretty limited and needs more customizability imo |
| 19:27.48 | Apoco | lol |
| 19:27.50 | DARKGuy | Dreamchat: http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2844/tuia102th9.jpg |
| 19:27.55 | Aiiane | but offhand, does anyone know of a UI that allows you to easily monitor a customized set of auras? (example, a tracker for whatever seal my paladin currently has up) |
| 19:28.11 | Aiiane | s/UI/addon/ |
| 19:28.20 | Ackis | Saroz: anything my class can cast (I'm a priest)... it doesn't seem to show spirit either however that's probably because I'm not specced to have spirit |
| 19:28.28 | DARKGuy | you can make different "chat frames" that you can maximize or minimize at will, resize, dock, change title/tab name, color, etc. |
| 19:28.29 | Saroz | Ackis, yea, hrm |
| 19:28.41 | Saroz | Ackis, guess it depends on how blizz made UnitBuff() |
| 19:28.42 | Dashkal | Apparently KTM made a comeback since Omen didn't work prefectly immediately and KTM pretended it did |
| 19:28.44 | erzy | i found horisontally but not vertical |
| 19:29.20 | Grum | Dashkal: anyone using KTM should be made fun of |
| 19:29.26 | DARKGuy | Antiarc: oh here's dreamchat's forum post: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571.0 |
| 19:29.33 | DARKGuy | it was a mockup then it became a mod |
| 19:29.39 | DARKGuy | nobody ever maintained it since then =( |
| 19:29.41 | Dashkal | True, adn I'm damn glad none of our raidleaders got a case of the stupid. So I just don't have to care myself |
| 19:29.47 | AKX | DARKGuy, blame me \o/ |
| 19:30.01 | DARKGuy | AKX: lol you were the one developing it? =( |
| 19:30.10 | AKX | Yeah >_> |
| 19:30.12 | DARKGuy | ~lart AKX |
| 19:30.12 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at AKX |
| 19:30.22 | AKX | evade bugs. |
| 19:30.28 | DARKGuy | OMGWTFHAX |
| 19:30.42 | DARKGuy | GMPLZBANKTHX |
| 19:30.42 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 19:30.47 | DARKGuy | Aww, why did you leave it |
| 19:30.50 | DARKGuy | it was such a cool mod |
| 19:30.51 | Dashkal | mmm, gotta love rogues who saturate their upload pipe so you can't hit them back |
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| 19:31.00 | Saroz | charon, thats odd, but maybe thats because it's YOUR spell |
| 19:31.00 | Grum | haha Prat+Chatter gives a mess=D |
| 19:31.09 | DARKGuy | lol Grum |
| 19:31.13 | Aiiane | i need to reset my prat one of these days |
| 19:31.19 | AKX | I don't have any time to develop it, DARKGuy, and I've said many times I'm willing to let anyone else develop it if they wish. |
| 19:31.35 | Aiiane | right now i have it disabled because whenever i turn it on it spawns a few odd bugged-out chat tabs that can't be removed until prat is disabled again |
| 19:31.51 | Aiiane | probably a messed up setting that got carried over or something |
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| 19:32.15 | charon | Saroz: 4/14 19:57:43.259 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,..,"Acoon",..,"Veras Darkshadow",..,"Taunt",0x1 |
| 19:32.15 | charon | Saroz: or do you mean, the combatlog shows it but the in-game event doesn't` |
| 19:32.17 | charon | ? |
| 19:32.18 | DARKGuy | AKX: Hmm I would, but chatter is becoming so good that I wonder if Antiarc could use that code and put it inside Chatter instead? |
| 19:32.19 | Dashkal | Is anybody going to pickup Prat or are we just moving to Chatter? |
| 19:32.26 | Saroz | no the event |
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| 19:32.33 | Saroz | sec combat |
| 19:32.42 | Primer | Is there an alternate wow port? Seems I've been firewalled at work again |
| 19:32.52 | Dashkal | SSH tunnel :p |
| 19:33.00 | charon | i'll test my growl but there's no way i can test with warrior right now |
| 19:33.05 | Dashkal | use keys and null encryption |
| 19:33.06 | Primer | don't want to introduce latency |
| 19:33.15 | Saroz | hrm |
| 19:33.18 | Saroz | it shows growl |
| 19:33.57 | kenlyric | prat needs picking up? |
| 19:34.04 | Dashkal | Sylv wowquit |
| 19:34.07 | Antiarc | Prat needs dropping, IMO >_> |
| 19:34.10 | kenlyric | oh |
| 19:34.19 | Antiarc | I can't tell you how much smoother combat is without Prat securehooking my macros :P |
| 19:34.22 | Dashkal | Antiarc immediately replaced it with Chatter. Loving chatter :p |
| 19:34.37 | kenlyric | so it wasn't a bitter modfight |
| 19:34.43 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69759 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua init.lua): CoolDownButtons: extended Save/Hide Cooldowns config (not finished yet) <3 AceConfigDialog-3.0! |
| 19:34.44 | Lywellyn | Oh hey, Antiarc. Has anyone mentioned the item links thing to you yet? |
| 19:34.57 | Dashkal | Nope. The only reason to pickup Prat at this point is for the "No I don't wanna change!" crowd. |
| 19:35.27 | VonhintenHOME` | What a conversion from prat saved variables to chatter =P |
| 19:35.31 | VonhintenHOME` | what=write |
| 19:35.40 | Dashkal | oh man what a task that would be... |
| 19:35.46 | kenlyric | just do it for altnames |
| 19:35.53 | CIA-39 | 03phanx * r69760 10Grid/ (embeds.xml libs/): Grid: Add LibSharedMedia-2.0 to externals and embeds.xml so embedded users actually get the font/texture options. |
| 19:35.55 | kenlyric | that'd be the only huge configuration bitch |
| 19:36.30 | Dashkal | Antiarc: Is is possible to run Chatter and Prat at the same time? If so that could actually be done... |
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| 19:36.38 | Dashkal | without extreme pain and suffering |
| 19:36.48 | hypetech | why would you want to do that? |
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| 19:36.57 | Dashkal | So you can get at both mod's data at the same time |
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| 19:37.14 | hypetech | does it really take that long to manually update? >.> |
| 19:37.15 | hypetech | lol |
| 19:37.17 | Lywellyn | Somehow that feels like it would incite the apocalypse... |
| 19:37.21 | Dashkal | lol |
| 19:37.43 | Saroz | charon, odd, I don't get Taunt |
| 19:37.46 | Dashkal | Better yet just activate enough of prat to get at config and alt names and forget everything else, but that would be as much work as a perl script to convert. |
| 19:37.51 | Saroz | charon, as spellName? |
| 19:38.53 | Antiarc | Dashkal: It's possible but they're going to fight with each other |
| 19:38.53 | charon | Saroz: hold on, i'm stealthing to ikiss right now and will try growl when we get there |
| 19:38.54 | Saroz | growl works |
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| 19:38.59 | Dashkal | Antiarc: About what I figured. Just checking if it was possible. I just gave up my old alt database and started over. Guild isn't big enough for it to be an issue (and we're good about "Dashkal's Alt" notes). |
| 19:39.02 | Saroz | charon, sorry, typo :| |
| 19:39.27 | charon | what, you mean it's fixed? :) |
| 19:39.38 | Nandini | does the SV serializer have any problems saving strings with \127 in them? |
| 19:39.42 | charon | does UnitGUID work at the time the .lua files global scopes are executed? probably not huh? |
| 19:40.38 | CIA-39 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r69761 10ag_UnitFrames/ (16 files in 13 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: party targets can now be anchored to party units, and hides correctly when joining a raid (if the option is on) |
| 19:42.12 | luxus | WOHO!! |
| 19:42.18 | Saroz | charon, ya, spellname != spellname |
| 19:42.20 | Saroz | charon, ya, spellname != spellName |
| 19:42.29 | luxus | best commit today :D |
| 19:42.58 | stew_a | antiarc: with the tab completion, is it supposed to just remove the partial part of the name and not fill anythign instead if theres more than one possible match? |
| 19:43.00 | DARKGuy | FINALLY |
| 19:43.08 | DARKGuy | too bad I switched to Pitbull already :P |
| 19:43.30 | Antiarc | stew_a: It should print a list of matches |
| 19:43.33 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: In Guild channel and/or Trade channel, the first item link will randomly not display correctly. It's updated and it works fine without Chatter enabled, too. |
| 19:43.48 | stew_a | not getting a list |
| 19:43.57 | Antiarc | Lywellyn: Screenshot it for me next time you get it to happen |
| 19:43.58 | Lywellyn | DARKGuy: Pitbull = win. Pitbull > agUF. :D |
| 19:44.11 | Tularis | qft |
| 19:44.12 | DARKGuy | Lywellyn: Pitbull ftw! :D |
| 19:44.15 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Sure thing |
| 19:44.19 | Nandini | PitBull = win, LDT = tossup |
| 19:44.25 | kenlyric | until dogtags eat your cpu |
| 19:44.34 | DARKGuy | hey Lywellyn did you finally got around to use the sharedmedia fonts and such ? |
| 19:44.35 | kenlyric | over 9000 |
| 19:44.52 | Lywellyn | DARKGuy: Well yeah, how else did you think I got the chat window to show the Nintendo font? ;) |
| 19:44.57 | DARKGuy | kenlyric: no way :( |
| 19:44.59 | Lywellyn | Appreciate the help, it works like a charm :D |
| 19:45.08 | DARKGuy | Lywellyn: d'oh! right I forgot it was thanks to that :D |
| 19:45.09 | Lywellyn | kenlyric: Dogtag > all |
| 19:45.09 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 19:45.11 | CIA-39 | 03rodrick * r69762 10NazGuildRecruiter/ (Core.lua NazGuildRecruiter.toc): |
| 19:45.11 | CIA-39 | NazGuildRecruiter: |
| 19:45.11 | CIA-39 | - Fixed externals |
| 19:45.11 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.25 | luxus | kenlyric dogtag is not soo bad.. i use underhood and it runs fine... without! librock |
| 19:45.31 | kenlyric | Lywellyn: until they use up 20% of your cpu |
| 19:45.43 | Nandini | Dogtag's CPU usage in a raid > all my other addon CPU usage |
| 19:45.45 | kenlyric | *time |
| 19:45.54 | kenlyric | Nandini: combined. |
| 19:45.56 | Lywellyn | I guess I never really notice. |
| 19:45.58 | Nandini | yes combined |
| 19:45.58 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r69763 10Chatter/ (Chatter.toc Localization/zhCH.lua Localization/zhCN.lua): Chatter: Add zhCN locale |
| 19:46.05 | Lywellyn | I'm more concerned with mem usage. lol |
| 19:46.13 | kenlyric | Nandini: do you even use raid fraimes from pitbull? |
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| 19:46.26 | luxus | 15,8 mb mem usage after /rl :D |
| 19:46.27 | Nandini | not anymore, i've abandoned them |
| 19:46.28 | charon | Saroz: ah ok. i tried to look at dteventtrace during the fight but it scrolled too fast :-/ |
| 19:46.44 | chdst | I'm still a big sRaid fan |
| 19:46.52 | Lywellyn | My mem usage would blow your mind. In a bad way. I use a ton of addons :( |
| 19:46.55 | chdst | Pitbull for all else though |
| 19:46.59 | charon | again, does UnitGUID work at the time the .lua files global scopes are executed? probably not? |
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| 19:47.13 | Kurax | I use raid frames of pitbull |
| 19:47.26 | nevcairiel | charon: for player it should |
| 19:47.32 | charon | hmm. |
| 19:47.42 | Nandini | charon: the only thing it might be expected to work for is UnitGUID("player") or potentially UnitGUID("pet") i think, not sure about party/raid members |
| 19:47.46 | charon | damn. you just sunk a possible AOE mode fix. |
| 19:47.54 | nevcairiel | well |
| 19:47.55 | Dashkal | wtb ag dogtags support :p I love ag (pitbull blows my mind up with options) so I won't leave over it, but I wants them I does |
| 19:47.56 | luxus | Lywellyn: i have more 160 addons active ... |
| 19:47.57 | nevcairiel | just try it |
| 19:48.02 | nevcairiel | add code to output the upvalue |
| 19:48.04 | kergoth | pretty sure UNIT_PET fires on load, i wouldnt expect the unitguid on it to work until then |
| 19:48.05 | kergoth | shrugs |
| 19:48.09 | Lywellyn | luxus: Then I want to cry :( |
| 19:48.20 | kenlyric | I can no longer remember what feature pitbull offered that made me switch |
| 19:48.31 | kenlyric | visualheal, maybe |
| 19:48.33 | Lywellyn | Okay then question: which affects FPS more: CPU or mem usage? |
| 19:48.38 | kergoth | CPU |
| 19:48.39 | Nandini | CPU |
| 19:48.45 | Lywellyn | Damnit. |
| 19:48.47 | Fix[EJ] | haha |
| 19:48.47 | kergoth | mem isn't going to affect jack unless you're on the boundary of swapping, which is unlikely |
| 19:48.57 | Fix[EJ] | kenlyric: What do you use instead? ag? |
| 19:48.57 | ag` | you guys have fun with your huge like zomg addons :P |
| 19:48.59 | Dashkal | ag for player and target frames, grid for party |
| 19:49.06 | kenlyric | Fix[EJ]: I use pitbull |
| 19:49.08 | Lywellyn | 50 MB+ on average :3 |
| 19:49.09 | kenlyric | I just don't remember why |
| 19:49.13 | kergoth | i'm happily going back to the ace3 aguf now that the party targets bug is fixed |
| 19:49.18 | Fix[EJ] | haha |
| 19:49.18 | kergoth | when i get home, anyway |
| 19:49.19 | Fix[EJ] | ^^^^^ |
| 19:49.26 | luxus | Lywellyn: check which addons use so much ram. and which kills your cpu... then decide if you really need it.. or perhaps there is a better (in preformance way) replacement |
| 19:49.34 | ag` | but kergoth |
| 19:49.40 | ag` | no promises the fix is bugfree :P |
| 19:49.48 | kergoth | nothing is ever bug free |
| 19:49.59 | luxus | ag`: can you add break19 libheal-4.0 support? |
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| 19:50.23 | ag` | I probably want to have a heal module sometime |
| 19:50.31 | luxus | btw THANKS you sooo much for this bugfix :D |
| 19:50.40 | luxus | sry i mean libhealth :D |
| 19:50.43 | NivFreak | Antiarc: so I tried AoE mode again last night, still no bars |
| 19:50.50 | luxus | libhealcomm would be cool too :D |
| 19:51.01 | nevcairiel | wtf is libhealth? |
| 19:51.10 | Kurax | lol |
| 19:51.16 | Vangual | is the author of cooldownbuttons around here? |
| 19:51.33 | DARKGuy | anybody knows why the hell libhealcomm spams my guild channel or whispers someone random on my guild when it loads? it says something along the lines of L87631^3HealComm829823839234asdas |
| 19:51.37 | Lywellyn | 31 CPU per second? |
| 19:51.42 | [SW]Dodge | Vangual: yea |
| 19:51.47 | luxus | libmobhealth-4.0 ... |
| 19:52.24 | Lywellyn | What's the best way to gauge my addon's usage? All I think I have is PerformanceFu. |
| 19:52.32 | luxus | hi dodge, thank you for the superb mod ;D |
| 19:52.37 | Fix[EJ] | OptionHouse has a CPU profiler, I believe |
| 19:52.43 | DARKGuy | it does Fisker- |
| 19:52.44 | luxus | Lywellyn: i use optionhouse |
| 19:52.46 | DARKGuy | ... Fix[EJ] |
| 19:52.47 | Kurax | Lywellyn: Try warmup |
| 19:52.47 | kergoth | optionhouse is the best one i've seen personally |
| 19:52.48 | DARKGuy | fail. |
| 19:52.49 | stew_a | cpu and a memory profiler |
| 19:52.50 | nevcairiel | luxus: it supports MobHealth3 just fine, use that ;) |
| 19:52.54 | kergoth | performancefu sucks up a shitton of cpu itself |
| 19:53.08 | Lywellyn | okay, optionhouse it is |
| 19:53.10 | Fix[EJ] | DARKGuy...what? |
| 19:53.19 | [SW]Dodge | luxus: no problem, i'll release a rewrite within the next days, i hope you'll like it too^^ |
| 19:53.20 | DARKGuy | Fix[EJ]: it has a CPU profiler :P |
| 19:53.50 | Fix[EJ] | Sorry I can't remember the feature of every addon I've ever used :P |
| 19:54.00 | Fix[EJ] | Why a rewrite, Dodge? |
| 19:54.11 | luxus | for me cdb is fine dodge.. what is the different? :D do you need a alphatester? :D |
| 19:54.18 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: performance improvements+new config ^^ |
| 19:54.34 | Fix[EJ] | Performance improvements...hurray! |
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| 19:55.03 | [SW]Dodge | luxus: if you want i can send you the current state (or you checkout from svn ;) ) |
| 19:55.10 | luxus | nevcairiel: i use underhood that only support libmobhealth-4.0 and i hate to have 2 mods for the same thing |
| 19:55.28 | luxus | dodge it is on acesvn? |
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| 19:55.38 | nevcairiel | bad for underhood then :P |
| 19:55.45 | nevcairiel | lmh-4.0 isnt worth using imho |
| 19:55.49 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm95/lywellyn06/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_041408_155224.jpg |
| 19:56.15 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 19:56.22 | Hjalte | ckknight: I need you to write a cooldown and dot monitor. I'm getting paranoid about my addons, thinking that just because I haven't heard of the author, it's automatically bad code :( |
| 19:56.25 | [SW]Dodge | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/CoolDownButtons/rewrite/ |
| 19:56.52 | luxus | nevcairiel: yes but it is not bad.. or is the preformance of mobhealth3 better? |
| 19:56.55 | CIA-39 | 03pastamancer * r69764 10Grid/GridStatus.lua: |
| 19:56.55 | CIA-39 | Grid: |
| 19:56.55 | CIA-39 | - GridStatus: fixed status de-bouncing when text is nil |
| 19:56.58 | Cartas | Ellipsis...! |
| 19:57.27 | Antiarc | Lywellyn: It broke in guild chat for you? o.0 |
| 19:57.29 | ag` | how do you enable the cpu profiler in optionhouse? |
| 19:57.32 | DARKGuy | MY EYES |
| 19:57.44 | stew_a | press the button then reload the ui ag' |
| 19:57.47 | Cartas | You saw the screenshot, DARKGuy? |
| 19:57.48 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Yeah, it breaks in guild channel and trade channel randomly. Sometimes it work right, sometimes it doesn't. |
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| 19:57.49 | Fix[EJ] | ag`: You have to reload the UI, yeah |
| 19:57.49 | Antiarc | ag`: Performance tab, click "Enable CPU", click "Reload UI" |
| 19:57.52 | DARKGuy | Cartas: yes |
| 19:57.52 | ag` | ok |
| 19:57.55 | [SW]Dodge | luxus: maybe you want to stresstest it :) |
| 19:57.57 | Cartas | Haha, my thoughts exactly. |
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| 19:57.58 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Prat did the same thing. |
| 19:57.59 | ag` | I'm blind I guess |
| 19:58.02 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 19:58.03 | Antiarc | Lywellyn: k. I don't think it's the ChatLink module then :) |
| 19:58.08 | susen | Enter text here...hallooooooooo |
| 19:58.09 | chexsum_ | hjalte, parrot + classtimer |
| 19:58.10 | Antiarc | Because that module doesn't touch Guild |
| 19:58.13 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: It's not. I disabled that and it still did it. |
| 19:58.24 | [SW]Dodge | luxus: btw, backup your config if you want to use the old release until the release of the rewrite |
| 19:58.30 | susen | halloooooooooooooo |
| 19:59.14 | Dashkal | wow, four fubar bars... |
| 19:59.17 | luxus | dodge if it break everything i will stress you every minute to code faster :D |
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| 19:59.44 | luxus | so i don't need a backup *smile* |
| 19:59.59 | Antiarc | Lywellyn: Try disabling one module at a time till it starts working, if you would |
| 20:00.00 | susen | halloooooooooooo |
| 20:00.08 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: h'okay. |
| 20:00.09 | [SW]Dodge | luxus it will not break the old config... it will reset the odl config :/ |
| 20:00.10 | CIA-39 | 03charon * r69765 10Omen/Modules/AOE/AOE.lua: Omen: fix for AOE mode not showing anything before first /reloadui |
| 20:00.14 | chdst | [SW]Dodge: I can't really imagine what the Cooldown buttons look like. Got any screenies? |
| 20:00.24 | Antiarc | charon: Ooh, what was that? |
| 20:00.28 | susen | hallo guten aband |
| 20:00.32 | Nandini | all signs point to WotLK being released sometime in the next 1.87 years, yes? |
| 20:00.38 | Dashkal | Note to self: alias /w to /msg on irc |
| 20:00.39 | luxus | chdst: i have a screenshot |
| 20:00.45 | [SW]Dodge | chdst: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Image:CDB_Buttons.jpg |
| 20:00.45 | susen | h0131 |
| 20:00.48 | Hjalte | chexsum_: I tried out Classtimer some time ago, but I found the menu very confusing. I'll try it out again sometime soon :) |
| 20:01.10 | Kurax | Nandini: No, it's 2.19 years |
| 20:01.16 | susen | hahaha |
| 20:01.30 | susen | it is 37 |
| 20:01.32 | Lywellyn | Yes, four fubar bars....I'm a fubar addict :3 |
| 20:01.37 | Dashkal | :p |
| 20:01.37 | Nandini | drat, 1.87 years is the longest i can record 15 minute intervals of time in the space of 2 bytes :) |
| 20:01.44 | aestil | good afternoon all!? |
| 20:01.55 | Dashkal | I forcibly reduced the screen space I gave up to fubar. I wanted my precious pixels back |
| 20:02.16 | chdst | Thanks...I might just have to pull that. Is that on the trunk, should I wait for the rewrite? |
| 20:02.18 | susen | why don t speak hallooooooooooooooo |
| 20:02.30 | CIA-39 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r69766 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: removed print |
| 20:02.39 | charon | Antiarc: UnitGUID being used at lua load time when it returns nil |
| 20:02.41 | kenlyric | 4 fubar bars is too many |
| 20:02.48 | kenlyric | you need to reduce the spacing or something |
| 20:02.53 | charon | except if you do /reloadui, which is why i never saw it |
| 20:03.12 | kenlyric | I'm an info junkie and I have trouble filling two |
| 20:03.24 | aestil | link hover module? |
| 20:03.27 | aestil | Antiarc: ? |
| 20:03.32 | Lywellyn | kenlyric: I tried reducing the space as much as I can |
| 20:03.33 | Cyrez | There's enough thingies for FuBar that you can use it for darn near your whole UI. |
| 20:03.43 | luxus | chdst: the trunk version is fine.. but if the rewrite is out.. you have to setup everything again :D |
| 20:03.55 | Dashkal | I managed to save most of my fubar space by nuking all the icons that were there just for config menus. Some selective information pruning on things like factionfu did the rest. Yay back to one line |
| 20:04.02 | kenlyric | Cyrez: except an access button to blizzard addon options window :) |
| 20:04.05 | chdst | luxus: That's no problem |
| 20:04.20 | Lywellyn | Dashkal: Yeah, I put most of the icon-only things in my MBB. |
| 20:04.20 | Cyrez | No, you can do that, too.. |
| 20:04.24 | DARKGuy | I only use fuBar because it removes the minimap buttons, ohyeah. And it gives cool info... I sometimes have them to be autohide :3 |
| 20:04.27 | Fisker- | hurts kenlyric |
| 20:04.40 | kenlyric | why am I being hurt |
| 20:04.57 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 20:04.58 | DARKGuy | Since I started using fuBar_DuraTek, I stopped going into instances without broken gear! |
| 20:05.01 | Dashkal | I'd autohide except I find myself glancing at the thing all the time (I scan it like a dashboard once in awhile to track cash, rep, and dura) |
| 20:05.03 | DARKGuy | ... and lost 50 pounds in the process! |
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| 20:05.26 | Cyrez | There's an old FuBar thingy that lets you put any function you want from Blizz or LUA into a menu item. |
| 20:05.46 | Antiarc | charon: That's an interesting find. |
| 20:05.49 | Dashkal | I like my dura addon, but with one issue. It has an auto-repair feature that I'd like to restrict to only fire when talking to someone I'm Exalted with |
| 20:06.00 | Antiarc | aestil: Hover over a link in chat and the tooltip pops up |
| 20:06.14 | aestil | i think tekkcompare does that. |
| 20:06.28 | Kurax | Antiarc: Omen UI collapses sometimes |
| 20:06.41 | Nandini | you know what would be groovy? being able to get a player's GUID from the guild list |
| 20:06.42 | aestil | Kurax: there is a setting for it to collapse? |
| 20:06.59 | Ellipsis | touches Fisker- inappropriately |
| 20:07.05 | Dashkal | Doesn anybody yet know if a player's GUID persists through renames and transfers? |
| 20:07.18 | Antiarc | Dashkal: I believe it does |
| 20:07.25 | kenlyric | Dashkal: I'm thinking that one of the autorepair mods has that feature |
| 20:07.35 | chdst | Oh, that reminds me. I have no idea what controls the "Broken Man" frame, I use Chinchilla to display/position it. Right now it displays the average durability in %, but I'd like the lowest. Am I missing a checkbox somewhere? |
| 20:07.47 | kenlyric | automaton, duratek, minimalist, a couple others... I don't know which one |
| 20:07.53 | Kurax | Antiarc: I mean the bottom border on top and top on bottom, totally messed |
| 20:07.59 | Dashkal | hmm, may have to seek that out then (autorepair). It isn't much of a bother unless I accidently talk to a neutral repair mob right after a raid, but it does add up |
| 20:08.06 | Nandini | player GUID seems to remain the same when renaming or transferring chars within the same battlegroup, not sure about transfers to realms in a different battlegroup |
| 20:08.10 | Hjalte | feels stupid |
| 20:08.16 | Antiarc | Kurax: I know about that one, but I haven't tracked it down. |
| 20:08.42 | chdst | I'm looking to change the string displayed on the broken man, not find another addon. Sorry to be unclear |
| 20:08.43 | Hjalte | I've just spent 15 minutes wondering why my R (reply to whisper) button never worked when I logged in. Bah. No-one had whispered me. |
| 20:08.54 | Dashkal | I was guessing the player's guid was just a hash of their name/realm and as such would change. I guess it's probably from an ID used as the primary key in the database |
| 20:09.02 | Ellipsis | chdst: the default UI doesn't have a string displayed there, so you'll have to find out what addon is doing that |
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| 20:09.34 | Nandini | Dashkal: it seems to be sequential |
| 20:09.49 | chdst | Ellipsis: I think it's only Chinchilla...I'll look into it. |
| 20:09.51 | Dashkal | Nandini: *nods* almost certainly a primary key index then |
| 20:10.03 | Nandini | and i haven't run across any players from my battlegroup with conflicting GUIDs |
| 20:10.17 | Dashkal | Slouken stated that it was unique within a battlegroup |
| 20:10.29 | Nandini | but i don't want to pay to xfer to a realm outside my battlegroup and see if my guid changes |
| 20:10.43 | Tularis | it probably will |
| 20:10.47 | Dashkal | Heh, if my guild ever breaks down and I xfer to my carebear server I'll let you know |
| 20:10.55 | Atriace | How do you retrive a table name as a string? (here's a sample script) |
| 20:10.59 | Atriace | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85778 |
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| 20:12.31 | Antiarc | Atriace: You can't get the name of the variable that was passed in. |
| 20:12.35 | Antiarc | You'll need to pass that separately. |
| 20:12.51 | Kurax | The character |
| 20:13.00 | Atriace | Antiarc: Any suggestions? |
| 20:13.07 | Kurax | The character's GUID never changes iirc |
| 20:13.08 | Dashkal | heh, and here I was thinking topscoreFu was meant in the old MUD sense (a total of points from player stats/gear) |
| 20:13.43 | Antiarc | Atriace: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85780 |
| 20:13.45 | Dashkal | Kurax: If it's a database key it'll probably change when you change battlegroups. They have independent player databases. |
| 20:13.52 | Kurax | They ran some tests on PTR to prove that |
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| 20:14.32 | Atriace | Ah... well yes that would work... but the elegence. Hmm. |
| 20:14.32 | *** part/#wowace Prof_Alber1 (n=profalbe@91-113-18-146.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 20:14.33 | Dashkal | Especially if you xfer between datacenters |
| 20:15.00 | Lywellyn | How does one USE OptionHouse? o_O |
| 20:15.01 | Kurax | All characters are sharing one guid database seems, even acrossing servers |
| 20:15.16 | Dashkal | Any proof to back that up (on live) |
| 20:15.20 | |Pixel| | aaaaaaaaa/wi350 |
| 20:15.24 | |Pixel| | hmmm |
| 20:15.28 | |Pixel| | nice one |
| 20:15.47 | Dashkal | If there's anybody planning on xferring sometime soon, take a note of guid before and after for us :p |
| 20:15.47 | deadstar | meh my server is down:( |
| 20:15.48 | Kurax | But I'm not pretty sure about this too, because technically it's hard to do this |
| 20:16.14 | Dashkal | Even across servers I imagine it would only _have_ to change in the case of a conflict. |
| 20:16.18 | Antiarc | Atriace: The name you use for variable names is not accessable for upvalues. |
| 20:16.29 | Antiarc | If it's a global, you could get all variable names that reference that, but it'd be messy. |
| 20:16.34 | Nandini | for US and EU players, it's easy to test by transferring to a realm in a different battlegroup, but that costs money |
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| 20:16.47 | Kurax | But you may consider Blizz would use GUID to track xfers |
| 20:16.57 | Lywellyn | Never mind, I see how. Heh. Pitbull uses .9% CPU, Cowtip 15%. Ace2 lib uses 50%? |
| 20:17.07 | Dashkal | Exactly. I'm actually considering a transfer in the next couple months. If I do, I'll let you know if mine changes. |
| 20:17.13 | Hjalte | Does anyone have experience with both WUU and jwu, and is able to tell me what my best choice is for updating mainly wowace addons, but also some from wowinterface? |
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| 20:17.57 | Nandini | i use jwu to easily update wowace and wowi addons easily |
| 20:18.12 | Atriace | Antiarc: how mortifyingly depressing. /pout |
| 20:18.13 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69767 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua locales/enUS.lua): CoolDownButtons: added missing "Show Time" Option :O |
| 20:18.15 | Nandini | (that message is brought to you by the department of redundancy department) |
| 20:18.22 | Hjalte | ~jwu |
| 20:18.22 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 20:18.22 | Atriace | Antiarc: thanks for the info. |
| 20:18.32 | kenlyric | I just use the favorites list on wowi |
| 20:18.33 | DARKGuy | WAU ftw. |
| 20:18.42 | Dashkal | Hjalte: JWU will work for what you want |
| 20:18.50 | DARKGuy | yes I'm annoying. |
| 20:19.08 | Nandini | i had never noticed that the GuildInfo() API tells you the number of accounts in your guild, that's fascinating |
| 20:19.09 | Antiarc | Atriace: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85781 |
| 20:19.10 | Kurax | There also has one named WUU |
| 20:19.11 | Dashkal | DARKGuy: Unless it was added recently, WAU cannot do WowUI addons |
| 20:19.14 | Antiarc | Hope that clarifies it a bit |
| 20:19.19 | Arsonide | Alright guys, I have a ton of buttons on my bars that I don't use at all...I combined a lot of my more useful skills into one button macros to save space during combat, the result being that I have a lot of bars I don't even use. Ideas for useful/not useful things that I can put in these bars? |
| 20:19.21 | Antiarc | I'm assuming _G can be used that way. I'm not sure if it can. |
| 20:19.22 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: no it can't, my bad =( |
| 20:19.39 | DARKGuy | Arsonide: potions! |
| 20:19.42 | Nandini | Arsonide: hide them |
| 20:19.45 | kenlyric | is jwu also abandoned? |
| 20:19.55 | Arsonide | Nandini: They're built into the UI in such a way that they look nice. |
| 20:20.03 | Arsonide | Removing them would leave a nifty panel |
| 20:20.04 | Dashkal | kenlyric: Murr? |
| 20:20.10 | Dashkal | something to that effect in the thread? |
| 20:20.12 | kenlyric | i see an update from april, so i guess not |
| 20:20.14 | kenlyric | no |
| 20:20.16 | kenlyric | but wau is |
| 20:20.23 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Found out what was causing it. |
| 20:20.31 | Arsonide | DARKGuy: Is there some way I can integrate Autobar into bongos bars? |
| 20:20.36 | Arsonide | Without using it's own bar. |
| 20:20.37 | Hjalte | Is both wau1 and wau2 abandoned? |
| 20:20.42 | Lywellyn | Prat/Chatter and RS_ClassColor apparently don't mingle well. |
| 20:20.47 | kenlyric | looks like jwu does disembedded stuff now. |
| 20:20.50 | Dashkal | Yeah, Rolf was active in the JWU thread as of today |
| 20:20.51 | Kurax | Arsonide: All of your potions |
| 20:20.53 | DARKGuy | Arsonide: No clue, I have never used Autobar or Bongos, I switched to Bartender3 :P |
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| 20:21.05 | DARKGuy | I'm sorry. |
| 20:21.19 | Kurax | Arsonide: All the portal spells if you're a mage |
| 20:21.31 | Prof_Alber1 | DARKGuy: so can it be done with Bartender3? |
| 20:21.35 | Dashkal | DARKGuy: does bt3 have some sort of autobar-like support? |
| 20:21.41 | Dashkal | I'm using both bt3 and autobar atm |
| 20:21.47 | Lywellyn | BT3 + xbar = win |
| 20:21.58 | DARKGuy | Prof_Alber1, Dashkal: I don't know what does Autobar so I don't know what are you two talking about :P |
| 20:22.02 | Antiarc | Lywellyn: RS_ClassColor is another mod? |
| 20:22.02 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 20:22.03 | DARKGuy | *Autobar do |
| 20:22.05 | Aiiane | Antiarc |
| 20:22.09 | Antiarc | Aiiane |
| 20:22.17 | Aiiane | Is there a way to put spacing in between elements of a chat line in Chatter? |
| 20:22.25 | Aiiane | i.e. to put a space between timestamps and channel names etc |
| 20:22.26 | Fisker- | omg |
| 20:22.27 | Dashkal | Autobar is a virtual bar that tracks consumables (and a few other things) in a dynamic bar that adjusts based on what you have on you |
| 20:22.31 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Yeah. When I disabled the Player Names module in Chatter, the links worked fine. I disabled RSCC, and then reenabled the module, and they work fine now. |
| 20:22.33 | Fisker- | gorefien died in our second try |
| 20:22.40 | Lywellyn | So it's a problem with conflicting mods. Wewt. |
| 20:22.44 | Dashkal | And it's starting to annoy me so I'm looking for an alternative |
| 20:22.46 | Antiarc | Use a custom timestamp format with a space after it / use custom channel names with spaces after them |
| 20:22.56 | Aiiane | arg. k :/ |
| 20:23.04 | Lywellyn | Dashkal: xbar and xcustombar |
| 20:23.07 | Antiarc | Lywellyn: Two mods trying to do the same thing, I suspect |
| 20:23.20 | Dashkal | Lywellyn: *nods* danke, I'll look |
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| 20:23.33 | Lywellyn | XBar gives bars based on your class, and xcustombar allows you to create bars of items/spells/macros, and for items, only shows the buttons if you have them in your inventory. |
| 20:23.36 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: well with Modality you can make some BT3 bars to change or modify with LUA scripts, but that's just messy |
| 20:23.52 | kenlyric | and you can do custom brackets for nicknames now too, right? |
| 20:23.53 | Dashkal | heh, that would be very much overkill for what I need |
| 20:23.54 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Yeah, they were. |
| 20:23.56 | kenlyric | that's probably where I'd put an extra space |
| 20:24.14 | CIA-39 | 03barfolomeu * r69768 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.toc Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): Merge locale adds from trunk. |
| 20:24.19 | Lywellyn | Dashkal: You can disable the bars XBar provides, but you need xbar to use xcustombar. |
| 20:24.22 | Dashkal | I might just take the buttons I need from autobar and stick them on an unused bt3 bar, but I like how autobar accounts for each character automatically (food especially) |
| 20:24.24 | Lywellyn | But either way, I thought I'd throw it out there. |
| 20:25.26 | Dashkal | My problem with autobar is that the author will use trunk for alpha level stuff from time to time without warning and how it's profile support is screwy. |
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| 20:26.00 | Dashkal | It's a lil late to block updates _after_ my bars have all exploded. |
| 20:26.20 | Ellipsis | have you ever considered that just because something has been changed in trunk doesn't mean you have to download it? |
| 20:26.25 | kergoth | it's trunk, it's his perogative to use it for development. if you don't want the new changes, don't update. |
| 20:26.27 | Ellipsis | if your setup is working, why update? |
| 20:26.35 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: Omen, mostly |
| 20:26.40 | Ellipsis | so update omen |
| 20:27.18 | Dashkal | I use a good 60 or so addons. Tracking them all individually would take too much time. So I update them as a lump and try to replace those that go unstable. |
| 20:27.30 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 20:27.47 | phanx | Dashkal: I handle that problem by updating to somewhere other than my actual addons folder, and just copy over updates I'm interested in. Easier than doing indivudal manual updates. |
| 20:27.50 | Dashkal | You don't ever want to see my memory usage... |
| 20:27.50 | Kurax | asspalms |
| 20:27.58 | Lywellyn | Dashkal: I do! |
| 20:28.03 | Dashkal | heh |
| 20:28.09 | stew_a | what is it dash? |
| 20:28.10 | Ellipsis | you want frequent updates to omen, I get that |
| 20:28.18 | Ellipsis | everything else, leave it alone unless it's broken |
| 20:28.20 | Ellipsis | seems simple enough to me |
| 20:28.30 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: I need frequent updates to omen, I _like_ the new features I get from everything else. |
| 20:28.32 | charon | Gnarfoz: r69765 should fix the problem you reported yesterday, can you tell me if it works? |
| 20:28.45 | Dashkal | And the only addon I have instability problems with is Autobar. |
| 20:28.45 | DARKGuy | hey is there any way I can see the log of yesterday on #wowace ? |
| 20:28.52 | Ellipsis | ~logs |
| 20:28.53 | purl | i guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 20:29.00 | DARKGuy | oohhhhhh |
| 20:29.03 | DARKGuy | thanks Ellipsis <3 |
| 20:29.04 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 20:29.10 | Ellipsis | mmyup |
| 20:29.15 | Lywellyn | ~bonk DARKGuy |
| 20:29.16 | purl | ACTION bonks DARKGuy over the head |
| 20:29.20 | DARKGuy | Ow |
| 20:29.21 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 20:29.25 | Lywellyn | xD love it. |
| 20:29.48 | charon | Dashkal: your average updater has a feature to freeze an addon. try putting a folder called .svn or .ignore inside the addon folder. |
| 20:29.58 | Dashkal | charon: *nods* I use it |
| 20:30.30 | Dashkal | charon: Doesn't mean I don't want a replacement dynamic bar that doesn't crap out on me from time to time. Note: 'want'. For now I deal. |
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| 20:30.41 | Lywellyn | I wish I could go in and make a couple changes to HonorFu so that the changes would be there across updates. :3 |
| 20:30.59 | Ellipsis | replacing an addon because the author uses svn for development rather than release seems silly to me |
| 20:31.37 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: I, like many other users of wowace hosted addons, use files.wowace.com as a release site. I have no choice as many addons I use are _only_ relesed through files.wowace.com. |
| 20:31.39 | kergoth | i like that the user blames the addon for his own stupidity in updating to something that isn't guaranteed stable. if you want guaranteed stability, use a release from wowi |
| 20:31.48 | kergoth | or update only when you need a fix |
| 20:31.58 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: you do have a choice |
| 20:32.00 | Dashkal | kergoth: WTB the mods I use actually releasing to a 'stable' site |
| 20:32.05 | kenlyric | if you want guaranteed stability, don't play wow |
| 20:32.07 | kenlyric | ok? |
| 20:32.09 | Dashkal | lol |
| 20:32.29 | Ellipsis | "my addons don't work at all on tuesdays, fix plz" |
| 20:32.30 | Vangual | or just use sto... err nvm |
| 20:32.31 | kenlyric | in fact, I'd refrain from anything that requires a video driver |
| 20:32.33 | Fisker- | this is gonna be great |
| 20:32.41 | Dashkal | kenlyric: Stable is good, I can even handle bugs. Autobar did open heart surgery in the "release" branch that is so sadly named "trunk" |
| 20:32.52 | Ellipsis | trunk is not a release branch |
| 20:32.56 | Fisker- | *While going to bloodboil* Raidleader: "Hey <mage from our guild>, go get your alt pala for tanking bloodboil" |
| 20:32.56 | Ellipsis | tags is, go update from there |
| 20:32.57 | Nandini | omg win, i can use color codes to store player guids i think |
| 20:32.57 | Fisker- | LOLWUT |
| 20:33.03 | Nandini | in their guild public notes |
| 20:33.08 | Primer | Ellipsis: except...it is |
| 20:33.10 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: Oh god I wish peopled used tags for release quality revisions |
| 20:33.15 | Dashkal | The fact is they don't. |
| 20:33.17 | Ellipsis | Primer: no, it's not |
| 20:33.21 | kenlyric | trunk is not a release tool |
| 20:33.31 | Primer | then why do both jwow and wau update from trunk? |
| 20:33.32 | Ellipsis | trunk is for development, beta quality code that is never guaranteed stable |
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| 20:33.48 | Primer | an error on the part of the writers of this software? |
| 20:33.48 | Dashkal | Trunk will remain a release tool until the svn is updated to force authors to push to a tag to get things listed on files.wowace.com |
| 20:33.49 | DARKGuy | is there an even more dangerous codebase? |
| 20:33.49 | kenlyric | Primer: that's for them to determine |
| 20:33.49 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 20:33.50 | Ellipsis | because updaters were originally intended to help users beta test addons |
| 20:33.51 | kenlyric | not us |
| 20:34.07 | Primer | I do all my development in branch |
| 20:34.13 | Primer | and only commit to trunk once it's "stable" |
| 20:34.16 | kergoth | the updaters pull from trunk, that doesnt mean you have to update everything constantly for no good reason |
| 20:34.21 | kergoth | not that hard to grasp |
| 20:34.22 | Primer | because of jwow and wau |
| 20:34.24 | Dashkal | It's a release tool because it's "easy" for an author to relase that way and nothing forces them to do it any other way |
| 20:34.26 | kergoth | if you have no reason to get a new version, dont |
| 20:34.45 | Ellipsis | Primer: way to let the users waste your time, then |
| 20:34.47 | kenlyric | if you are confused: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater "These are BETA addons you are updating and you should expect to see cutting edge features which may not be fully functional or bug-free. If this doesn't sound appealing for you, stop reading this page and update your addons through release versions from mod sites instead. Some addons are more beta than others." |
| 20:34.52 | Dashkal | kergoth: My "good reason" is that I like the new features that get added from time to time and do not have the time to track the changes to all of them |
| 20:34.54 | Primer | heh, I want bug fixes, regardless if I'm aware of them or not |
| 20:34.58 | kergoth | then quit your bitching. |
| 20:34.59 | DARKGuy | I always update my AddOns at least 5-6 times a day |
| 20:35.06 | Dashkal | Agreed, Primer |
| 20:35.09 | kergoth | either update only when you know theres soemthing you need, to deal with it |
| 20:35.12 | kergoth | s/to/or/ |
| 20:35.18 | DARKGuy | or use curse or wowui |
| 20:35.25 | Nandini | 0x00000000017E37DE translates nicely to |c017E37DE, which appended to the end of my guild public note, doesn't change its appearance |
| 20:35.28 | Dashkal | "Note: 'want'. For now I deal" |
| 20:35.31 | kenlyric | it's at the very top of the page |
| 20:35.34 | kenlyric | in bold |
| 20:35.36 | Kurax | wowace is a developing site not a publishing site |
| 20:35.49 | Dashkal | Kurax: This is how it's intended, but it is not how it's used. |
| 20:35.51 | Ellipsis | the problem is when you say "I want every little fix and update even if it's a toc bump or a chinese localization change" but also "I don't want to know anything about my addons or keep track of their progress" |
| 20:35.58 | Dashkal | See complaint about addons not being uploaded anywhere else |
| 20:36.15 | Ellipsis | either you get your OCD updating fix, or you don't worry about stuff. you can't have both. |
| 20:36.18 | kenlyric | i'd pay good money to ignore localization updates.... ;) |
| 20:36.32 | NivFreak | yea, honestly, it'd be nice to have our SVN tracking repository now, and a "stable" one for some people |
| 20:36.34 | kenlyric | until they've had a chance to be reverted 10 minutes later :) |
| 20:36.40 | NivFreak | and get some updater support for it as well |
| 20:36.44 | DARKGuy | good idea NivFreak |
| 20:36.45 | DARKGuy | =) |
| 20:36.45 | kenlyric | reverted/utf8 fixed |
| 20:36.48 | Dashkal | I am _really_ looking forward to the promised change to make authors push release versions explicitly instead of implicitly to trunk |
| 20:36.58 | kenlyric | ewww |
| 20:37.01 | NivFreak | it's a wierd time now though |
| 20:37.04 | kenlyric | who promised that? |
| 20:37.08 | Kurax | kenlyric: reverting is also a kind of update |
| 20:37.09 | NivFreak | since anything "stable" is probably what's in head |
| 20:37.13 | Sais | Force people to work on mods on branches? ;) |
| 20:37.13 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: I'm pretty sure nobody ever *promised* that |
| 20:37.21 | Dashkal | promise is too strong a world |
| 20:37.24 | Ellipsis | or if they did, they weren't in a position to have that promise actually mean anything |
| 20:37.25 | Dashkal | but it has been talked about more than once |
| 20:37.29 | kenlyric | Dashkal: the website you are looking for is wowinterface.com |
| 20:37.33 | Dashkal | by Kaelten. |
| 20:37.34 | Ellipsis | everything's been talked about |
| 20:37.39 | kenlyric | that's where the stable releases are pushed |
| 20:37.40 | Nandini | is it safe for me to hook the methods used in the default UI to display and update guild member public notes and modify the text? |
| 20:37.42 | Sais | i.e the only time you commit to the trunk is at a 'major' tagging point. |
| 20:37.47 | Ellipsis | that doesn't mean it's going to happen the way people suggested it should |
| 20:37.48 | Dashkal | kenlyric: Again: Many (most?) addons are simply not pushed to wowinterface |
| 20:37.55 | Dashkal | ever |
| 20:37.59 | kenlyric | then they're always beta |
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| 20:38.04 | Primer | I created a branch to do my dev in because I don't want to be bothered with trying to sync 3 different dev boxes. I just commit my work, then svn up when I move to the other box, even if it's known to not work |
| 20:38.07 | kenlyric | don't install! |
| 20:38.07 | Ellipsis | if they're not stable they're not stable |
| 20:38.22 | NivFreak | kenlyric: beta is fine, but most of the stuff in head is far from beta ;) |
| 20:38.37 | Kaelten | Dashkal: if all goes well we'll be doing the full launch fairly soon. |
| 20:38.39 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: which is it, if an addon is beta quality and still has some rough edges, should they upload it to wowi so you can download it from there and then complain because that *is* a release site? |
| 20:38.44 | Dashkal | You're making the assumption that authors are using the system as its intended. It's not. trunk gets used as release because of WAU/JWU because it's the simplest way to get addons out |
| 20:38.52 | Kaelten | Dashkal: its not what most people think though. |
| 20:38.59 | Kurax | Some authors are not feel like to publish their addons, they just writing for fun, not for questions |
| 20:39.04 | Dashkal | Kaelten: Could you shed some light on it please? I don't want to push misinformation |
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| 20:39.22 | Ellipsis | then don't push anything |
| 20:39.25 | Ellipsis | that's Kaelten's job :P |
| 20:39.42 | Fix[EJ] | [SW]Dodge: Is it me, or is there no config menu for that re-wreite of CDB? |
| 20:39.52 | luxus | try /cdb |
| 20:40.03 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: /cdb |
| 20:40.09 | [SW]Dodge | or /cooldownbuttons |
| 20:40.13 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: I talk about it from time to time, I'm not speaking as an authority. I just don't want to be wrong when I do :p |
| 20:40.23 | Fix[EJ] | I figured it was something like that, but neither work..hmm |
| 20:40.36 | Primer | seeing that you guys enforce quite a bit of stuff in wowace svn already, I don't think it's much of a stretch to ask that developers only commit what they feel is stable to a specific directory |
| 20:40.40 | Primer | be that trunk, or tags |
| 20:40.48 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: everyone's going to be wrong about it because Kaelten hasn't given out any details about the changes he's planning |
| 20:41.11 | Primer | as long as it's consistent, and the updaters all pull from that directory |
| 20:41.25 | Fix[EJ] | I'm not running anything other than what was in the SVN, if that matters |
| 20:41.33 | Ellipsis | Primer: that's only half the puzzle - the updaters would still need to be pointed to that directory by default |
| 20:41.34 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: Point |
| 20:41.54 | pastamancer | there's alread a place fore release-quality versions... curse and wowi |
| 20:41.58 | Primer | Ellipsis: they're already pointed at trunk...just do dev in branches...problem solved |
| 20:42.15 | NivFreak | heh, you could do it as simple as having an SVN branch called "RELEASE" for each addon |
| 20:42.22 | Ellipsis | easier said than done, most people are trained to use trunk as trunk |
| 20:42.25 | pastamancer | adding a release section to the svn won't change anything if the authors don't want to make releases |
| 20:42.28 | Primer | why bother when there's already trunk? |
| 20:42.38 | Tularis | for clarity |
| 20:42.44 | charon | Primer: unfortunately, that's a bit inconvenient because all externals point at trunk |
| 20:42.46 | Tularis | trunk is main devlopment line |
| 20:42.49 | Tularis | and has always been |
| 20:43.00 | DARKGuy | I don't see the problem. |
| 20:43.09 | Ellipsis | charon: externals should be pointing to release versions of libs anyway :P |
| 20:43.09 | Tularis | same thing as HEAD in cvs is/was |
| 20:43.12 | charon | Primer: for example, i use a custom script to manage threat&omen because otherwise, my omen branch's externals would point to trunk threat instead of my threat branch |
| 20:43.21 | Primer | Tularis: I'm just playing the devil's advocate. I would like to see a RELEASE branch |
| 20:43.24 | Diao | hey does anyone know |
| 20:43.27 | Diao | for prism of inner calm |
| 20:43.31 | DARKGuy | If we take the entire AddOn world as a SVN itself. WoWUI / Curse would be TRUNK and WoWAce would be BRANCHES |
| 20:43.32 | Diao | does it reduce the threat AFTER the damage is done |
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| 20:43.40 | Diao | or do you get zero threat from the attack that crit AND reduce threat? |
| 20:43.43 | Arsonide | Whoa, I finally found someone who's fubar isn't a jumbled mess of icons...but I'm not sure what all these mods on the fubar are, can you guys identify them? |
| 20:43.45 | charon | (in truth, they _do_ point to trunk, i just don't care about externals anyway and use git-svn) |
| 20:43.46 | Arsonide | http://bp1.blogger.com/_AzTbX5qK3AA/R8_991tVIyI/AAAAAAAAAEA/CJVNDs3GpQI/s1600-h/WoWScrnShot_030408_225718.jpg |
| 20:43.50 | RaydenUni | blizzard patched the magic prince spot? |
| 20:43.56 | Ellipsis | no DARKGuy, that's not how most svns work |
| 20:44.09 | Arsonide | particularly in the left and center. |
| 20:44.13 | Arsonide | I know what the right are |
| 20:44.14 | Kurax | DARKGuy: No, WoWUI/Curse would be tags =p |
| 20:44.22 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: do you have an adodn lig swatter or bugsack? |
| 20:44.31 | Antiarc | Diao: Attack threat - fixed value |
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| 20:44.35 | DARKGuy | Kurax: lol, well that's how I see it anyways |
| 20:44.37 | Diao | oh ok |
| 20:44.41 | DARKGuy | they're always a step behind, kinda. |
| 20:44.47 | Fix[EJ] | Nothing else installed right now, I'll go drop in bugsack though |
| 20:44.48 | stew_a | did that discussion about GUID resets get settled about when they reset? |
| 20:44.50 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: why not? |
| 20:44.54 | Antiarc | If you spellcrit for 100 it subtracts 1000 making your next threat for the attack -900 |
| 20:45.03 | Josh_Borke | DARKGuy: what kurax said is accurate |
| 20:45.06 | Arsonide | Curse is annoying when you try to search it...if you try to go to page 2 of the search it'll go to page 2 of all mods sorted by popularity...so the most you'll ever get out of a search is one page. |
| 20:45.08 | Nandini | GUID resets? |
| 20:45.23 | Ellipsis | Arsonide: I see regenfu, pitchfu, restfu, bagsfu, durabilityfu (or maybe duratek), ammofu, moneyfu, dpsfu, topscorefu |
| 20:45.23 | DARKGuy | Josh_Borke: it is, I'm just looking at it from a more basic point of view |
| 20:45.25 | Josh_Borke | DARKGuy: it's more: WoWUI/Curse = tags; trunk = stable; branches = experimental |
| 20:45.31 | Ellipsis | standard fubar plugins |
| 20:45.52 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: 99% of devs use trunk for most development and branches for really experimental stuff |
| 20:45.58 | Tularis | Arsonide: I see, duno, duno, duno, duno, BagFu, DurabilityFu, duno, duno RecountFu, TopscoreFu, duno, duno, performanceFu, clockFu |
| 20:46.02 | Paene | Anyone know if passing the english spellname to GetSpellInfo() will work with foreign clients for getting the localized information? or do you have to use the spellID? |
| 20:46.16 | DARKGuy | Josh_Borke: yeah seems logical |
| 20:46.30 | pastamancer | Paene: use the id |
| 20:46.40 | Paene | hm... |
| 20:46.42 | Paene | kk |
| 20:46.43 | Dashkal | Hmm, I think the best way to sum up my complaint is I see what WAU has done as a problem. In that WAU has become the de facto way to get the most updated version of ace addons (insert cult-of-ace rant here). It made trunk into something it wasn't intended to be |
| 20:47.00 | sb | kalecgos sucks :(( |
| 20:47.08 | Primer | Dashkal: where would it have gotten it otherwise? |
| 20:47.11 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: that's why I said Ace is trunk and Curse is stable. You have less problems to run into bugs and such in Curse/wowui than in Ace (at least, I remove the option to skip SVN working copies :P) |
| 20:47.12 | Dashkal | But the fact is it _is_ the primary way to get up to date versions of addons on the ace svn, and in many cases the only |
| 20:47.24 | Kalroth | Antiarc: There?! Boobies? |
| 20:47.27 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: you said curse is trunk and wowace is branches |
| 20:47.31 | Fix[EJ] | [SW]Dodge: http://ace.pastey.net/85784 |
| 20:47.33 | DARKGuy | coorect Dashkal |
| 20:47.39 | Fix[EJ] | Thats what BugSack threw my way. |
| 20:47.43 | stew_a | because if it wasnt, x-battlegroup transfers reset Guid, renames dont, but dont know about x-realm within a battlegroup |
| 20:47.48 | charon | Dashkal: it immensely helps us (well, me at least) to forget that there are users, and flat out deny that people update from wowace directly ;) |
| 20:48.05 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: I consider trunk a stable version of whatever is in whatever SVN, either be Ace or any other project. It just isn't used like that here :P |
| 20:48.12 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: thats it :D |
| 20:48.14 | Paene | Dashkal: That all depends on how you choose to release. I use the wowace SVN, but I don't support non-Curse released version complaints unless I'm actively seeking people to test a feature |
| 20:48.17 | Dashkal | It needs to be more difficult to get svn versions of addons. This way authors would be more inclined to push to the published release sites |
| 20:48.23 | [SW]Dodge | missing AceDBOptions external in rewrite:D |
| 20:48.23 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: yeah...no |
| 20:48.26 | [SW]Dodge | wait |
| 20:48.28 | kenlyric | DARKGuy: you apparently have no experience with svn |
| 20:48.33 | stavmar | so what is teh way to add spec to someone's tooltip in cowtip? I assume a DogTag script? |
| 20:48.34 | kenlyric | trunk is ALWAYS dev |
| 20:48.36 | Primer | charon: except that most developers are also users :) |
| 20:48.37 | DARKGuy | kenlyric: I have my own svn -.- |
| 20:48.42 | kenlyric | you ever tried a trunk build of firefox? |
| 20:48.47 | Paene | lol |
| 20:48.48 | kenlyric | they're a fun rollercoaster |
| 20:48.52 | Dashkal | kenlyric: Agreed that it _should_ be that way |
| 20:48.54 | DARKGuy | no, I hate compiling apps that are already available in binary form :P |
| 20:48.57 | kenlyric | one day it'll be fine, the next it will eat your computer |
| 20:48.59 | kergoth | there's a reason trunk firefox is called MInefield |
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| 20:49.05 | Ellipsis | stavmar: yeah, add something like [TalentTree TalentSpec:Paren] |
| 20:49.07 | Primer | kenlyric: except firefox has a release branch |
| 20:49.10 | kenlyric | think of the wowace svn just like that |
| 20:49.10 | Dashkal | need to break the circle of "average lusers use trunk" so "trunk gets easier to reach" |
| 20:49.18 | kergoth | the issue here is that its one monolithic svn |
| 20:49.19 | Primer | and they still use CVS! |
| 20:49.21 | kenlyric | Primer: becuase it's one application |
| 20:49.22 | Primer | (don't they?) |
| 20:49.23 | Primer | heh |
| 20:49.24 | Grum | CVS FAIL! |
| 20:49.25 | kergoth | and each user follows their own branching policies |
| 20:49.26 | stavmar | Ellipsis: OK will try it |
| 20:49.31 | luxus | git git git git |
| 20:49.33 | DARKGuy | Hm, I see it now :/ |
| 20:49.34 | kergoth | there's no consistent policy for it |
| 20:49.34 | DARKGuy | still. |
| 20:49.39 | Tularis | git is annoying |
| 20:49.42 | luxus | *hides* |
| 20:49.46 | DARKGuy | totally |
| 20:49.51 | kergoth | git is awesome |
| 20:49.56 | Primer | if only there was a wowace policy regarding releases... |
| 20:49.56 | luxus | yes |
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| 20:50.04 | Tularis | that would solve a lot |
| 20:50.06 | chiper | I had a buddy try to convince me on git the other day. I wasnt sold |
| 20:50.09 | Primer | and where updaters can pull from |
| 20:50.11 | Ellipsis | Primer: there doesn't need to be; wowace is not a release site. |
| 20:50.14 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: do you have a lot of experience with team colloboration with git? |
| 20:50.17 | Tularis | so just adding a branch RELEASE would make it quite good |
| 20:50.20 | kenlyric | 99% of mods don't really need a complicated release structure |
| 20:50.21 | NivFreak | chiper: git is interesting |
| 20:50.22 | luxus | with git nobody have a problem to merge something :D |
| 20:50.23 | Primer | Ellipsis: except...it is |
| 20:50.24 | kenlyric | they're not that complicated |
| 20:50.26 | kenlyric | trunk is fine |
| 20:50.28 | Ellipsis | Primer: no, it's not. |
| 20:50.36 | Antiarc | Kalroth: Yo |
| 20:50.37 | Ellipsis | the admins and devs say it's not, the users can go die in a fire |
| 20:50.40 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: it is being used as that |
| 20:50.43 | Tularis | it's not a release site, but why shouldn't it be |
| 20:50.44 | Primer | Ellipsis: tell that to all the people using jwu and wau |
| 20:50.46 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: it's being ABused as that |
| 20:50.49 | Kalroth | Antiarc: I got a funky error in Chatter |
| 20:50.52 | kenlyric | just because you shit in my hat does not make it a toilet |
| 20:50.57 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: we're using it for our current projects at work, now |
| 20:50.59 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: well it isn't being ABused like that for no reason. |
| 20:51.03 | Ellipsis | Primer: I don't have to; most updaters carry warnings that they provide beta quality addons |
| 20:51.11 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69769 10CoolDownButtons/ (. config.lua locales/enUS.lua): CoolDownButtons: added missing AceDBOptions-3.0 external |
| 20:51.19 | Kalroth | Antiarc: It's the addon Expiration doing it though, so I'm not sure who to yell at |
| 20:51.22 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: no, it's being abused that way because of WAU which I personally hate |
| 20:51.31 | Kalroth | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/85785 |
| 20:51.33 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: update :) |
| 20:51.34 | hypetech | I thought it was pretty well understood that anything on an SVN anywhere is most likely in a developmental state |
| 20:51.41 | Primer | then block it from all anonymous access |
| 20:51.52 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: be WAU or jWoW or whatever, you'll still have people fetching SVN trunk |
| 20:51.54 | DARKGuy | it's the same thing. |
| 20:52.01 | DARKGuy | I'd use RapidSVN if WAU wasn't available. |
| 20:52.02 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.06 | hypetech | lol |
| 20:52.08 | Ellipsis | hypetech: yeah, but most users don't even know what svn is, let alone that files is actually a frontend for one |
| 20:52.13 | hypetech | trure |
| 20:52.13 | Fix[EJ] | Done and done, testing it now :] |
| 20:52.15 | hypetech | true* |
| 20:52.22 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: you would, but 99% of users can't figure out a svn client |
| 20:52.24 | Paene | I personally love WAU, but that's because I understand that the addons I retrieve from it may not work. I'm willing to accept it. The time I hate WAU is when other people complain that they used it and are now having problems with their addons. |
| 20:52.28 | kergoth | power users use svn because they can deal with the bleeding edge. if you're such a user and can't fix any bugs you run into yourself, or can't revert to a known working version, you have no business using an svn |
| 20:52.31 | Ellipsis | WAU is easier than downloading from wowi, so users use it |
| 20:52.33 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: well I have to agree with you on that |
| 20:52.33 | Kurax | SVN is simply not for end users |
| 20:52.38 | Paene | kergoth: exactly |
| 20:52.43 | Dashkal | making WAU and JWU go away would actually be a good thing... |
| 20:52.44 | Nandini | has anyone observed a player GUID with more than 4 significant bytes? |
| 20:52.45 | DARKGuy | Hm. |
| 20:53.00 | Ellipsis | if wowi were easier for people to get addons from, and WAU wasn't there to give them a "one click update" from svn, then users would do the right thing. |
| 20:53.00 | pastamancer | files is useful to developers because it lets us get changes to users faster so we can get faster feedback on changes... just like the nightly builds of firefox |
| 20:53.02 | DARKGuy | Then some random guy makes a SVN frontend for files because he gets tired of SVNing everything |
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| 20:53.06 | Dashkal | it would force any addon author who wants general users to use their work use wowinterface/curse/whatever |
| 20:53.08 | DARKGuy | then he releases it and there you go. |
| 20:53.08 | stew_a | try matheridon EU for high Guids |
| 20:53.12 | kenlyric | making the good users who understand the risks and want to test stuff suffer isn't what I'd call a good thing. |
| 20:53.23 | DARKGuy | as Primer said, then block all the anonymous access. |
| 20:53.26 | kenlyric | we should not be made to suffer because of idiots who are "ZOMG OMEN BROKEN" |
| 20:53.37 | hypetech | not that I care to pander to the clueless, but how hard would it be to add a "Use Stable"/"Use Developmental" toggle to WAU and have authors mark certain version increments as known stable? |
| 20:53.54 | Josh_Borke | hypetech: impossible until you find a WAU dev |
| 20:53.59 | pastamancer | hypetech: that's what curse/wowi is for |
| 20:54.03 | RaydenUni | any of you use Chatter? |
| 20:54.07 | chiper | ken: even curse releases of Omen had loads of bugs, you cant blame SVN for that |
| 20:54.08 | hypetech | RaydenUni: I do |
| 20:54.14 | RaydenUni | good? |
| 20:54.15 | DARKGuy | RaydenUni: I do |
| 20:54.17 | hypetech | yar |
| 20:54.18 | DARKGuy | Awesome |
| 20:54.20 | Grum | WTB Addon that displays the icon of an item at/in the tooltip, what to use? |
| 20:54.24 | Ellipsis | hypetech: easy to add if someone wants to take up maintenance of WAU, but the trick is getting devs to tag their releases :) |
| 20:54.25 | kenlyric | look, fuckers, you don't download firefox from the release branch |
| 20:54.31 | Nandini | i'd argue that many addon authors are not interested in writing anything they can mark as "stable" :) |
| 20:54.34 | kenlyric | you download it from the release website |
| 20:54.39 | Paene | ~api GetSpellInfo |
| 20:54.40 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo |
| 20:54.54 | hypetech | kenlyric: firefox updates itself though :P |
| 20:55.14 | RaydenUni | all software should update itself |
| 20:55.34 | kenlyric | omen practically updates itself :) |
| 20:55.34 | Kurax | WoW does that |
| 20:55.36 | RaydenUni | downloading a new zip and then installing an update sucks |
| 20:55.37 | hypetech | well our environment is more unique |
| 20:55.39 | kenlyric | it nags and nags and nags |
| 20:55.44 | RaydenUni | wow modifications are different |
| 20:55.47 | RaydenUni | they aren't applications |
| 20:55.51 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: Ok, say I make an OS-independant addon updater. Will the devs adapt to that? I doubt it, according to the last conversation about it... |
| 20:55.55 | RaydenUni | i'm fine with how wowace updates work |
| 20:56.15 | *** part/#wowace Anea (n=ernst@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:56.20 | Nandini | you should really all stop discussing this now, no changes will come from it :) |
| 20:56.22 | vithos | not that i get a say in any of this, but i wish wowace were more like debian/apt |
| 20:56.24 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: there are a million of those already |
| 20:56.31 | kenlyric | if you use an addon that's on the SVN but is never released to a site, bug them endlessly |
| 20:56.35 | Primer | going back to the whole power user thing...the people doing the addon coding are such users...there's no reason why they can't have the discipline to push out "releases", and put them in a consistent place |
| 20:56.43 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: then why the change in SVN hasn't been made then? |
| 20:56.44 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: and the point is, there are 2389562 devs, not all of which care as much as the ones you'll find in this channel |
| 20:56.59 | Kurax | Just end users shouldnt touch WAU, or if you did, do not blame for bugs |
| 20:57.12 | Ellipsis | many addons are orphaned and would never get tagged |
| 20:57.27 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: Um, if it's orphaned, should it get tagged? |
| 20:57.27 | Primer | then nuke them from orbit...it's the only way to be sure |
| 20:57.28 | Ellipsis | many devs just wouldn't bother tagging their stable releases, or would forget about it after a while and slip back into old habits |
| 20:57.41 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: just because they're not actively maintained doesn't mean they don't work |
| 20:57.41 | Fix[EJ] | [2008/04/14 13:56:20-5-x1]: CoolDownButtons\config.lua:993: Cannot find a library instance of "AceDBOptions-3.0". |
| 20:57.43 | Fix[EJ] | Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `LibStub' |
| 20:57.45 | Fix[EJ] | CoolDownButtons\config.lua:993: in function <Interface\AddOns\CoolDownButtons\config.lua:989> |
| 20:57.47 | *** part/#wowace Fix[EJ] (i=fixtothe@cpe-76-95-160-65.socal.res.rr.com) |
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| 20:57.51 | Nandini | most devs would have a hard time deciding what to consider stable in the first place :) |
| 20:57.51 | Fix[EJ] | <string>:"safecall Dispatcher[1]":9: in function <[string "safecall Dispatcher[1]"]:5> |
| 20:57.52 | Dashkal | Tag the last known working version and leave it |
| 20:57.53 | Fix[EJ] | (tail call): ?: |
| 20:57.55 | *** part/#wowace Fix[EJ] (i=fixtothe@cpe-76-95-160-65.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 20:57.59 | chiper | here's my question. you all say that trunk is for development. so are you saying that you're commiting things that you know are broken? Personally, I don't commit until I know it's done and working. otherwise, what's the point |
| 20:58.11 | kenlyric | it looks stable until it breaks everything. |
| 20:58.19 | Kurax | 2389562 is really the magic number for Ellipsis, this is the 2nd time I saw her typing this number |
| 20:58.22 | Grum | omg not this discussion again! |
| 20:58.23 | Nandini | I'd commit things I know are broken if i want someone else's opinion or help in fixing it :) |
| 20:58.25 | Ellipsis | chiper: just because it works on your end doesn't mean it's considered stable |
| 20:58.26 | Dashkal | Trunk to me (ideally) is beta. Alpha belongs in branches |
| 20:58.29 | Dashkal | Release should be a tag |
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| 20:58.40 | DARKGuy | kenlyric: just as long as they don't go like Debian releases... =) |
| 20:58.45 | Primer | Dashkal: that's standard for me too |
| 20:58.45 | Paene | chiper: I commit things that I believe are stable, but just because it's running stable for me doesn't me it will for everyone (different languages, levels, etc.) |
| 20:58.49 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: true :( |
| 20:58.53 | chiper | Ellipsis: sure, but that's true about actual releases to curse and the like too |
| 20:58.54 | Ellipsis | chiper: consider things like localization bugs, class specific issues, ... that you can't test yourself |
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| 20:58.55 | Grum | Dashkal: branches are nothing more than named changesets, even trunk is that :) |
| 20:58.57 | Ellipsis | that's what beta is for :) |
| 20:59.00 | Xelo | Anyone know if it's possible to get milliseconds in the blizzard combat log? |
| 20:59.00 | Fix[EJ] | Ugh, that was intelligent. |
| 20:59.02 | Primer | Paene: I commit code that I'm working on so I can develop from multiple locations |
| 20:59.05 | kenlyric | my mod will never get distributed to a website or get marked as stable |
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| 20:59.12 | DARKGuy | come on, Windows isn't even Stable nor Linux is stable nor Mac is stable. Nothing is stable! |
| 20:59.20 | Dashkal | Grum: if you want to get specific, /trunk, /tags, and /branches have absolutely no intrinsic meaning whatsoever :p |
| 20:59.28 | kenlyric | because it's obvious copyvio and I have no idea how stable it is. |
| 20:59.29 | Grum | indeed ;) |
| 20:59.29 | Fix[EJ] | Anyways -- [SW]Dodge: http://ace.pastey.net/85786 is still what I'm getting. |
| 20:59.35 | Nandini | i have an important question: has anyone seen a player GUID with more than 4 significant bytes? |
| 20:59.47 | Primer | Nandini: stop being off-topic |
| 20:59.51 | Dashkal | lol |
| 20:59.51 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: :O |
| 20:59.53 | chiper | lol |
| 20:59.56 | Grum | Kurax: its her phonenumber .. just ad 555- |
| 20:59.59 | Grum | *add |
| 21:00.03 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 21:00.07 | Dashkal | Yeah, stick to the ranting match I provoked :p |
| 21:00.07 | Kurax | Really |
| 21:00.12 | Ellipsis | I don't even have a phone |
| 21:00.14 | Grum | yes really! |
| 21:00.19 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: working ;) |
| 21:00.20 | stavmar | Ellipsis: what is the statement for guild rank in DogTag? |
| 21:00.20 | Grum | (she lies) |
| 21:00.24 | Kurax | I'll try it someday |
| 21:00.26 | stavmar | Ellipsis: what is the statement for guild rank in DogTag? |
| 21:00.29 | stavmar | Ellipsis: what is the statement for guild rank in DogTag? |
| 21:00.39 | Ellipsis | stavmar: um, [GuildRank] afaik |
| 21:00.39 | Josh_Borke | Fix[EJ]: use pastey you idiot |
| 21:00.39 | TE|kulaar | o |
| 21:00.39 | TE|kulaar | k |
| 21:00.39 | Ellipsis | and spam less please |
| 21:00.39 | DARKGuy | any girl thats says she has no phone lies nowadays |
| 21:00.39 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 21:00.40 | stavmar | lol sorry was scrolled up |
| 21:00.43 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69771 10Chatter/Modules/ChannelNames.lua: |
| 21:00.43 | CIA-39 | Chatter: |
| 21:00.43 | CIA-39 | - Store and replace custom channel names by name rather than number. This will cause old custom channel names settings to poof, unfortunately. Spend 6.4 seconds and reset 'em. |
| 21:00.43 | CIA-39 | - Add a "add space after channel name" checkbox. |
| 21:00.44 | stavmar | my bad |
| 21:00.44 | CIA-39 | 03totalpackage * r69770 10InFlight/ (InFlight.lua InFlight.toc): |
| 21:00.45 | CIA-39 | InFlight: |
| 21:00.47 | CIA-39 | - fix for timer not updating while UI is hidden |
| 21:00.47 | Grum | stavmar: [its shove repeating up your ass]! :D |
| 21:00.51 | CIA-39 | 03totalpackage * r69772 10InFlight_Load/ (InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc): |
| 21:00.53 | CIA-39 | InFlight_Load |
| 21:00.55 | CIA-39 | - fix for timer not updating while UI is hidden |
| 21:00.55 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: actually, no |
| 21:00.57 | stavmar | Grum: wow thank you |
| 21:01.02 | Fix[EJ] | Josh_Borke: Yeah, I though I had...copied my pastey url...but it turns out I still had the error copied :P |
| 21:01.06 | Grum | it works really! :D |
| 21:01.10 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: life must be sad :( |
| 21:01.17 | chiper | from my user side, I personally feel much more comfortable recieving frequent updates to small issues than infrequent updates with lots of changes. it's the main reason I prefer shareware over commercial release |
| 21:01.17 | Ellipsis | I have never owned a cell phone (no use for one) |
| 21:01.18 | Xelo | Antiarc, I h8 you, i literally updated three seconds before you put in that change |
| 21:01.19 | Paene | pastamancer: did you say to use the spellID because the english name won't work on foreign clients? or was there another reason? |
| 21:01.24 | Nandini | life is great without a phone, i also don't have one |
| 21:01.30 | DARKGuy | wtf! |
| 21:01.37 | DARKGuy | my mom has 3 cellphones. |
| 21:01.37 | Ellipsis | Paene: just use spell ID, it's the right way to do things :P |
| 21:01.38 | pastamancer | Paene: spellid always works |
| 21:01.44 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69773 10CoolDownButtons/embeds.xml: CoolDownButtons: added AceDBOptions-3.0 to embeds.xml |
| 21:01.47 | DARKGuy | one for each phone company =p |
| 21:01.50 | Paene | I only want it to return in the user has the spell |
| 21:01.52 | Kalman| | Ellipsis: Makes it harder for user configuration, though. |
| 21:01.54 | Nandini | i have a cell phone whose contract has expired, in case i need to call 911 |
| 21:01.55 | Ellipsis | the english name won't work on non-english clients anwyay |
| 21:01.56 | Paene | which is why I'm using the name atm |
| 21:02.01 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
| 21:02.03 | Kalman| | At least in my case, the Babble-spell functionality was nice/ |
| 21:02.03 | Gnarfoz | charon: I'll check when we go to hyjal again, which will likely be on thursday |
| 21:02.08 | Ellipsis | Kalman|: not terribly |
| 21:02.10 | Paene | alright, then I'll have to use the spelllink |
| 21:02.19 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r69774 10DaHud/ (62 files in 14 dirs): |
| 21:02.19 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 21:02.19 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.19 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69775 10Chatter/Localization/enUS.lua: Chatter: Add missing localization |
| 21:02.21 | charon | Gnarfoz: ok. just complain loudly if it doesn't work, i want to get this right :-\ |
| 21:02.29 | Ellipsis | Kalman|: you know you can search through spell IDs til you find one that matches a user-entered name |
| 21:02.33 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: try now :X |
| 21:02.40 | kenlyric | I wonder if anyone downloaded my mod |
| 21:02.42 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Just replace any BS["Brilliance Aura IV"] with GetSpellInfo(1234) |
| 21:02.48 | Kurax | Being a 宅女 do not need a cellphone |
| 21:03.03 | Kurax | lol |
| 21:03.06 | kenlyric | 太棒了 |
| 21:03.10 | kenlyric | what's that mean? |
| 21:03.11 | Ellipsis | do I even want to know what that says? |
| 21:03.16 | Nandini | unfortunately, your double-byte characters are lost on me |
| 21:03.17 | DARKGuy`Work | [::] |
| 21:03.18 | kenlyric | I just got a spam with that in subject :) |
| 21:03.18 | Kurax | Means wonderful |
| 21:03.33 | NivFreak | hrmm, why does WWS show such a large range of health for Kaz'rogal |
| 21:03.45 | Ellipsis | I don't need a phone because I don't have anyone to call :P |
| 21:03.48 | phanx | Grum: IDCard will attach item icons to their tooltips. |
| 21:03.50 | Prof_Alber1 | anitarc: but different spell-ranks have different IDs right? |
| 21:03.53 | DARKGuy`Work | the boyfriend? |
| 21:03.54 | DARKGuy`Work | girlfriemds? |
| 21:03.56 | DARKGuy`Work | mom? |
| 21:03.58 | DARKGuy`Work | dad? |
| 21:03.59 | DARKGuy`Work | :( |
| 21:04.08 | Antiarc | Prof_Alber1: Yes, but the name is a different piece of info from the rank |
| 21:04.11 | Ellipsis | I don't speak to my parents |
| 21:04.11 | Fix[EJ] | [SW]Dodge: There we go, huzzah. |
| 21:04.11 | Diao | lol |
| 21:04.16 | Nandini | Ellipsis: assuming you owned a cell phone at some point in your life, you should keep it charged up in case you ever need to dial 911 |
| 21:04.17 | DARKGuy`Work | meanie. |
| 21:04.20 | CIA-39 | 03jncl * r69776 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Updated GemHelper, GroupCalendar, Omen & BankItems skins |
| 21:04.29 | Ellipsis | Nandini: as I said before, I have never owned one :P |
| 21:04.42 | Grum | phanx: oh thanks :) |
| 21:04.48 | Antiarc | GetSpellInfo(512) -> {"Chains of Ice", "Rank 2", etc} |
| 21:04.49 | DARKGuy`Work | Nandini: there's nothing more FAIL than to need to call 911 and not having battety :P |
| 21:04.49 | Kurax | Ellipsis: It's a word from Japan to describe someone "staying in house, never goes out, watching comics and play online games" |
| 21:04.58 | DARKGuy`Work | lmao |
| 21:05.03 | Diao | o_O |
| 21:05.05 | Prof_Alber1 | antiarc: ah, yeah right |
| 21:05.08 | Diao | it's chinese |
| 21:05.10 | Diao | :O |
| 21:05.15 | Diao | well uses chinese characters |
| 21:05.15 | DARKGuy`Work | comics no, manga & anime. That's more pro. |
| 21:05.16 | Diao | lol |
| 21:05.17 | Ellipsis | Kurax: ah...hikikomori |
| 21:05.18 | Nandini | Ellipsis: what would you do if your current place of abode became engulfed in flames? (besides run, presumably) |
| 21:05.30 | Nandini | or if you fell down and broke a hip? :) |
| 21:05.34 | Ellipsis | Nandini: tell the guy at the front desk? |
| 21:05.38 | DARKGuy`Work | XD |
| 21:05.41 | Ellipsis | (I'm in a hotel..) |
| 21:05.44 | Kurax | Ellipsis: What's that suppose mean? |
| 21:05.46 | Nandini | still in a hotel? |
| 21:05.51 | DARKGuy`Work | wtf |
| 21:06.01 | Ellipsis | Kurax: isn't that the japanese word you were talking about? |
| 21:06.07 | aestil | Antiarc: did you get that stuff i sent you for dusting? |
| 21:06.48 | *** join/#wowace Fritti (n=orb_rule@pcwin165.win.tue.nl) |
| 21:06.51 | Kalman| | Antiarc: I have the reverse problem. I expect the user, in the LUA, to give me localspellnamehere. Really though, I could give a shit about localization. |
| 21:06.52 | Antiarc | aestil: Already dusted and sent back |
| 21:06.58 | Antiarc | aestil: Your wife is a lot luckier with shards than you |
| 21:07.04 | aestil | *shrugs* |
| 21:07.19 | Antiarc | Kalman|: Is that spell in the player's spellbook? |
| 21:07.26 | Antiarc | If so you can GetSpellInfo("spell name") |
| 21:07.30 | Kurax | Ellipsis: No clue =p I only know sayonara for Japanese lol |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-39 | 03alar * r69777 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc localization-enUS.lua): |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-39 | AlarBGHelper |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-39 | Feature: Beta - In Warsong Gulch, show timers for carrier trackability and |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-39 | debuff. Timer are "approssimateives" because Blizzard itself says "about 10 |
| 21:07.39 | CIA-39 | minutes". Besides that.. testing it is awful.. I am waiting for some feedback |
| 21:07.40 | Ellipsis | pets Kurax |
| 21:07.42 | CIA-39 | from you. |
| 21:08.05 | Kurax | lol from you. |
| 21:08.19 | Kurax | CIA-39 is amazing |
| 21:08.21 | aestil | alarbghelper LOLOLOLOL |
| 21:08.41 | Gngsk | don't laugh, he's helping you |
| 21:08.46 | Gngsk | and wrapping every api call in the book |
| 21:08.49 | Ellipsis | Kalman|: as Antiarc said, you can GetSpellInfo("Spell Name") if the spell is known by the player, otherwise just iterate through spell IDs until you find one that matches the name |
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| 21:09.03 | Hjalte | Is the author of cooldown buttons on IRC? |
| 21:09.05 | Ellipsis | (which I suspect you'll have to do at least in some cases since you're dealing with debuffs rather than actual spells) |
| 21:09.07 | Hjalte | ~seen dodge |
| 21:09.10 | purl | dodge <~Dodge@sxpp-p-144-139-123-73.prem.tmns.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1423d 16h 2m 52s ago, saying: 'thanks..I shall'. |
| 21:09.10 | nevcairiel | or lookup the ids in question on wowhead *shrug |
| 21:09.18 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: user entered names |
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| 21:09.27 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 21:09.27 | Aiiane | user entered wowhead :P |
| 21:09.28 | Kalman| | Ellipsis: [BS['Immolate']] = L['Immol'], is how localization was being used. The problem is, I expect the user to write that line, not me. |
| 21:09.29 | Aiiane | j/k |
| 21:09.45 | Snago | ~seen [SW]Dodge |
| 21:09.46 | purl | [sw]dodge is currently on #wowace (14h 54m 45s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 7m 13s, last said: 'Fix[EJ]: try now :X'. |
| 21:09.49 | Ellipsis | Kalman|: I don't see the problem |
| 21:09.58 | [SW]Dodge | Snago: ?^^ |
| 21:10.14 | Chaud | only 29 msgs!? |
| 21:10.15 | CIA-39 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r69778 10AlarModules/AlarAutomation/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:10.15 | CIA-39 | AlarAutomation |
| 21:10.15 | CIA-39 | Branch for Ace3 port. Playing with custom widgets |
| 21:10.16 | Snago | [SW]Dodge: Hjalte was looking for you :) |
| 21:10.19 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: Are you the author of CoolDownButtons? |
| 21:10.26 | [SW]Dodge | Hjalte: yea |
| 21:10.28 | Kurax | Kalman|: You can ask user to input, why not? |
| 21:10.41 | [SW]Dodge | Chaud: 29 since las connect maybe^^ |
| 21:10.45 | Ellipsis | Kalman|: if you want the user to enter a spell, take the string they entered and try GetSpellInfo() on it. if that works you have the spell ID - if not, do GetSpellInfo(1), GetSpellInfo(2), ... until the first return matches the name they entered; then you have the spell ID. |
| 21:10.48 | Chaud | yeah, I would guess so =p |
| 21:10.56 | Kalman| | Hm. I guess I could structure it as GetSpellInfo("Name") for the entry. |
| 21:11.06 | Kalman| | No, Ellipsis, I don't expect them to provide a string - they edit the lua directly. |
| 21:11.07 | nevcairiel | just tell the user how to get the spell ids from wowhead |
| 21:11.09 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 21:11.18 | Ellipsis | Kalman|: then have them enter IDs |
| 21:11.33 | Aiiane | if they can edit lua |
| 21:11.35 | Kurax | If you use name as argument, then it need exists in player's spell book |
| 21:11.41 | Aiiane | then they should be able to look up stuff on a website |
| 21:11.45 | Kalman| | For which I have to do a GetSpellInfo("name") per debuff in order to get an ID because UnitDebuff doesn't provide ids. |
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| 21:12.17 | Kalman| | All of this just reminds me: I need to de-localize my addon. |
| 21:12.22 | prefix| | Does AR help on kalecgos? Like the trinket+motw? |
| 21:12.23 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis` (n=ellipsis@wsip-70-182-87-69.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 21:12.24 | Kurax | Otherwise, hard code spell ids would be the best way |
| 21:12.38 | Ellipsis | o.O; |
| 21:12.41 | Ellipsis | I think my laptop is cold |
| 21:12.44 | NivFreak | oh, duh, hyjal bosses have variable health in WWS due to the NPC DPS |
| 21:12.50 | Ellipsis | CPU is at 31C |
| 21:13.03 | Chaud | make it some hot soup |
| 21:13.10 | Ellipsis | I'll just cuddle it better |
| 21:13.13 | Kurax | That's normal, what are you expecting? |
| 21:13.17 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: Great. I've installed it but I can't get the Expiring group to center from anchor, like I do with the spell cooldowns. Additionally, is Separated cooldowns just a placeholder for something? :) |
| 21:13.23 | Ellipsis | ...it's a laptop, normal is like 50 |
| 21:13.36 | Kurax | Maybe your body is cold |
| 21:13.53 | Chaud | laptop popped icy veins wut. |
| 21:14.13 | Snago | Ellipsis: Give it some hot laptop lovin |
| 21:14.15 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: They're both set to direction: right, but the spell group seems to ignore this, which is what I want, while the expiring group moves to the right of the anchor |
| 21:14.19 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r69779 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua deletion.lua): |
| 21:14.19 | CIA-39 | Recount: |
| 21:14.19 | CIA-39 | - Zone change detection is now always registered to allow zone filters to work properly. |
| 21:14.37 | Snago | Ellipsis: And don't forget the pics ;P |
| 21:14.46 | Kurax | My laptop is always cold except when I'm playing WoW |
| 21:14.52 | [SW]Dodge | Hjalte: hm, i'll look why its not working |
| 21:15.05 | Chaud | I don't hae a laptop yet =( |
| 21:15.08 | Chaud | *have |
| 21:15.14 | Kurax | Watching you spammers spamming wont make it hot |
| 21:15.26 | luxus | harhar wowinterface is broken :/ |
| 21:15.38 | luxus | The requested URL /download.php was not found on this server. |
| 21:15.52 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: Maybe you could change the direction dropdown to show vertical/horizontal when "center from anchor" is on, which would make it more precise |
| 21:16.29 | Pkekyo| | how can I constrain the proportions of a table? (namely width...we're talking HTML here now) |
| 21:16.51 | stew_a | <table width="40%"> |
| 21:17.02 | xyu | !ap 1850 |
| 21:17.28 | Industrial | sets stew_a on fire |
| 21:17.35 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: Cascading Style Sheets |
| 21:17.38 | Fix[EJ] | [SW]Dodge: Any chance of making an announcement area thats moveable/scaleable? Thats the only feature I could request :| |
| 21:17.38 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69780 10Chatter/Modules/ChannelNames.lua: Chatter: Fix a problem with channel names. Adds other server channel names. |
| 21:17.50 | Industrial | but I dont have time for this, im messing with other stuff :p |
| 21:17.50 | stew_a | knows he writes sloppy html but doesnt care |
| 21:18.00 | Pkekyo| | stew_a: doesn't work |
| 21:18.00 | Pkekyo| | Industrial: elaborate |
| 21:18.17 | luxus | Fix[EJ]: you mean the cooldown ready thing? |
| 21:18.23 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: css is for style, html for content |
| 21:18.23 | Fix[EJ] | Yeah |
| 21:18.25 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: if you are using parrot yeah, if not its not possible yet ^^ |
| 21:18.32 | Pkekyo| | Industrial: DUH |
| 21:18.41 | stew_a | table {width:400px;} then |
| 21:18.48 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: so #mytable {.. yes |
| 21:18.59 | Fix[EJ] | Ah, yeah, no Parrot right now. |
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| 21:19.53 | Pkekyo| | stew_a: doesn't work... |
| 21:19.53 | Pkekyo| | text just keeps on going faaaaaaaaar and breaking up the design |
| 21:20.30 | [SW]Dodge | Fix[EJ]: then it's not possible since i'm using LibSink what uses other addons for the announcement |
| 21:21.01 | Fix[EJ] | Hmm, must investigate how CDT did it then |
| 21:21.16 | Fix[EJ] | CDT2, anyways. |
| 21:21.29 | Kurax | Pkekyo|: You could use CSS table-layout:fixed on table to force it wrap |
| 21:21.48 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: Actually, it seems to work the way I want it to, but the test mode is showing it wrong. |
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| 21:22.44 | [SW]Dodge | Hjalte: hm, ok, the testmode can be buggy with that (not really tested testmode after adding that feature) |
| 21:23.03 | [SW]Dodge | but i wont fix it, since i plan to release the rewrite within the next days :) |
| 21:23.27 | Pkekyo| | Kurax: would that constrain height as well? |
| 21:23.47 | Kurax | Pkekyo|: Nope |
| 21:24.22 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: Oh, I'll be looking forward to that. |
| 21:24.39 | Pkekyo| | Kurax: text doesn't wrap into, and it's still like 15px too wide :/ |
| 21:24.54 | stew_a | anyone know who the author of spamsentry is and where i can find him/her? |
| 21:25.07 | Pkekyo| | stew_a: tried /spamsentry about ? |
| 21:25.21 | stew_a | ~seen anea |
| 21:25.24 | purl | anea <n=ernst@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 3h 32m 56s ago, saying: 'kergoth: thx :) I could even add a nice background texture with hearts for added cuteness if you like :P'. |
| 21:25.29 | Primer | seems there's some funky character in these locale files |
| 21:25.40 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so you added that new sweep than mark functionality? |
| 21:25.49 | Primer | I thought UTF-8 was simply done with file magic? |
| 21:25.51 | Hjalte | Heh. With CPU profiling on, and reloading my ui in combat, autobar generated taint enough to fill 2,7MB of taintlog.txt in 3 seconds |
| 21:26.04 | DARKGuy`Work | omg. |
| 21:26.25 | Kurax | Pkekyo|: Need the code =p |
| 21:26.39 | Pkekyo| | Kurax: CSS or HTML? |
| 21:26.46 | Kurax | HTML |
| 21:26.53 | Pkekyo| | entire file, or just relevant table? |
| 21:26.54 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: I have an odd feature request for bigwigs |
| 21:27.00 | Industrial | SGML |
| 21:27.02 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.05 | Kurax | The table is fine, pastey it |
| 21:27.32 | Primer | my editor was showing an error in the 2 zhXX files. Turns out it was an invisible character at the beginning of the file. Shouldn't file magic take care of that, or is that special character necessary? |
| 21:27.34 | Pkekyo| | PM with URL sent, Kurax |
| 21:27.51 | Primer | take care of it being UTF-8, that is? |
| 21:28.07 | pastamancer | Primer: that's the UTF8 BOM, and some editors need it |
| 21:28.31 | Primer | ugh, but it makes MY editor choke |
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| 21:28.38 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, orly |
| 21:28.46 | charon | i thought the utf bom was -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- ;) |
| 21:28.52 | pastamancer | charon: :p |
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| 21:28.55 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: can you add a check to see who has flash and shake enabled? :P |
| 21:29.06 | NivFreak | zomg I'm going to kill people for standing in death and decay |
| 21:29.07 | Chaud | did the latest skinner make drop down selection boxes look odd? |
| 21:29.26 | charon | NivFreak: i think a graphics details check might prove more useful? |
| 21:29.34 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, lemme think for a moment |
| 21:29.38 | NivFreak | charon: flashing blue screen == win |
| 21:29.38 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, no |
| 21:29.41 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: cry |
| 21:29.41 | VonhintenHOME` | yep, gotta have spell effects turned up a bit |
| 21:29.49 | Primer | isn't there an svn property that can be set to make that character not be necessary? |
| 21:29.50 | charon | for the "don't stand in X" fights you need special effects at least at half so you can see the AoEs |
| 21:29.56 | charon | s/special/spell/ |
| 21:29.58 | hypetech | NivFreak: the issue with that is, if a person has it turned off, they probably can't handle it turned on |
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| 21:30.13 | NivFreak | hypetech: then I can replace them :) |
| 21:30.14 | Funkeh` | epileptic? |
| 21:30.19 | Amadeo | I don't like the WoWI Patch named "PitBull Update" when it's for someones UI package |
| 21:30.30 | NivFreak | the shitty thing about spell detail is |
| 21:30.38 | hypetech | NivFreak: you could just replace the people that constantly die to such effects, without knowing their settings/specs |
| 21:30.42 | NivFreak | the abominations in hyjal REALLY fuck up your FPS |
| 21:30.50 | Industrial | E P I L E P S Y ! ! ! |
| 21:30.55 | NivFreak | hypetech: in an ideal world yes |
| 21:30.56 | Industrial | too bad i cant make the screen flash |
| 21:31.06 | NivFreak | hypetech: in reality I can only do a couple at a time |
| 21:31.10 | charon | some people in my guild have also reported one digit FPS after fatal attraction at shahraz unless they put spell detail way down |
| 21:31.18 | hypetech | charon: ditto |
| 21:31.25 | Ellipsis | touches Industrial in dirty ways |
| 21:31.26 | NivFreak | personally, I run with spell detail all the way down unless I can't avoid it |
| 21:31.33 | hypetech | even on high end PCs fatal attraction is destroying fps |
| 21:31.34 | NivFreak | but I'm also not someone who dies from standing in shit |
| 21:31.39 | NivFreak | even while tanking + directing raid |
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| 21:31.45 | VonhintenHOME` | Those people need to check their DirectX settings in their graphics driver probably, and make sure it's set to Max Performance |
| 21:31.47 | charon | hypetech: i couldn't tell, i'm tanking ;) |
| 21:31.50 | VonhintenHOME` | not Max Quality |
| 21:31.53 | JJSheets | is back (gone 03:56:54) |
| 21:32.00 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: this affects my mac as well :) |
| 21:32.16 | VonhintenHOME` | shrug |
| 21:32.17 | charon | VonhintenHOME`: ... and my lunix |
| 21:32.18 | NivFreak | I don't think we have a setting for that on macs |
| 21:32.21 | hypetech | VonhintenHOME`: where would I find that setting? |
| 21:32.28 | Amadeo | I have it on Max Performance :( |
| 21:32.32 | Nocts | What website can I view guild progression? |
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| 21:32.36 | NivFreak | wowjutsu.com |
| 21:32.42 | hypetech | Nocts: what type of progression? |
| 21:32.43 | Nocts | <3 |
| 21:32.49 | Nocts | hypetech: Generally trance |
| 21:32.54 | charon | not arithmetic? |
| 21:32.57 | hypetech | Nocts: hahahahahaha |
| 21:33.03 | hypetech | damn. |
| 21:33.06 | Nocts | <3 |
| 21:33.29 | Nocts | charon: No, we did base 4 progression yesterday after dealing with sine. |
| 21:33.29 | hypetech | that was good because it took me a second to figure out wtf you meant, then I actually laughed out loud |
| 21:33.36 | hypetech | now my co-workers are staring >.> |
| 21:33.41 | VonhintenHOME` | Control Panel > Display > Settings > Advanced > GeForce XXXX XX or similar |
| 21:33.47 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: are you opposed to the idea in general, or just don't see the value? :) |
| 21:33.54 | VonhintenHOME` | Translate appropriately for Vista... if you can |
| 21:34.02 | Amadeo | VonhintenHOME`: Or right click the desktop :P |
| 21:34.11 | VonhintenHOME` | ugh... |
| 21:34.11 | Nocts | lol |
| 21:34.58 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, I wouldn't add code for something like that |
| 21:35.02 | hypetech | VonhintenHOME`: found it :p ty. I'll see if that helps |
| 21:35.03 | VonhintenHOME` | those asshats put a shell extension for that... |
| 21:35.12 | VonhintenHOME` | this is why software slows PC's down |
| 21:35.14 | Primer | I'm so tempted to remove these damn BOM things... |
| 21:35.20 | hypetech | ? |
| 21:35.28 | CIA-39 | 03aviana * r69781 10Numen/ (. Numen.lua NumenData.lua): |
| 21:35.29 | CIA-39 | Numen: |
| 21:35.29 | CIA-39 | - Applied Babble removal with fix from the forums |
| 21:35.34 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: would you care if someone else did? :P |
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| 21:35.39 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 21:35.41 | NivFreak | k |
| 21:35.45 | NivFreak | just curious |
| 21:36.13 | hypetech | haha |
| 21:36.24 | Tularis | Primer: BOM as in ByteOrderMark ? |
| 21:36.32 | hypetech | NivFreak: I'm sure he wouldn't mind if you edited your local copy to do what you want ;) |
| 21:36.50 | NivFreak | hypetech: it might require some client side changes I'd imagine |
| 21:36.55 | NivFreak | but I've never looked at bigwigs |
| 21:37.15 | Funkeh` | ofc it would |
| 21:37.18 | Primer | Tularis: I guess that's what it is. It's these Locale-zhXX.lua files that others have added to my addon |
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| 21:37.37 | Primer | Tularis: it makes the files show up as having errors in eclipse |
| 21:37.41 | Primer | on Linux |
| 21:37.49 | Tularis | sounds like BOM to me |
| 21:38.00 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: you've ruined my evil dictator plans =/ |
| 21:38.19 | Tularis | then again, last time I used eclipse it bugged on a ton of things for me |
| 21:38.34 | Primer | I'm guessing it'll only end up being a game of tag with the people maintaining these files |
| 21:39.33 | charon | Primer: you can always change it locally if you're extra careful to never commit those files |
| 21:39.55 | Primer | charon: I suppose |
| 21:39.58 | Tularis | the thing is, you don't need the BOM if you use the files only in wow |
| 21:40.14 | Tularis | since the files are _known_ to be using the utf8 codepage |
| 21:40.24 | Primer | it's just like how vim tags bother me |
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| 21:40.30 | Primer | those have no place in the file with code |
| 21:40.58 | Tularis | I've learnt to live with those lately... lots of users use em |
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| 21:41.09 | Tularis | emacs have their own shit down there too |
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| 21:41.38 | pastamancer | emacs users stuff it near the top of the file instead of at the end though |
| 21:41.44 | charon | depends |
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| 21:41.55 | charon | you can -*- it near the top, or LocalVariables: it near the bottom |
| 21:42.12 | pastamancer | I've always used -*- |
| 21:42.12 | Tularis | LocalVariables stuff is the only one I'm familiair with |
| 21:42.19 | Tularis | though I've never bothered using emacs |
| 21:42.19 | Hjalte | feels pro having 3 dot timers installed at once. |
| 21:42.25 | Shirik | pastamancer: Yeah but emacs users are evil too :P |
| 21:42.48 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.53 | Maelos | Does anyone know what it takes to get something added to the Compilatoins section of files.wowace.com? |
| 21:42.59 | Maelos | There seems to be nothing in there at the moment. |
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| 21:43.20 | Tularis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.22 | Tularis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.23 | Tularis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.25 | Tularis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.26 | Tularis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.28 | Tularis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.30 | Tularis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.31 | Tularis | looks familiair |
| 21:43.32 | Shirik | incoming stab |
| 21:43.38 | Primer | ugh...can't stand that |
| 21:43.47 | Primer | no reason for editor-specific stuff in a file |
| 21:43.54 | CIA-39 | 03Zimran * r69782 10zimCoords/ (. zimCoords.lua zimCoords.toc): |
| 21:43.54 | CIA-39 | zimCoords: initial commit |
| 21:43.54 | CIA-39 | - Simple coordinates. |
| 21:43.56 | VonhintenHOME` | There's syntax hilighting for VStudio eh? What about intellisense? |
| 21:43.58 | charon | Primer: python standardizes -*- encoding: foo -*- :P |
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| 21:44.07 | Arrowmaster | Maelos: theres a compilations section of files.wowace.com? |
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| 21:44.31 | pastamancer | IIRC it's for addons that are unique to compilations, such as the mazzle configurator thingy |
| 21:45.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah your not importing an entire fucking compilation to wowace, we dont work that way |
| 21:45.42 | Tularis | Maybe paste that info into the wiki somewhere |
| 21:45.52 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 21:46.10 | Tularis | because I've seen this question about 10x here today already |
| 21:46.17 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 21:46.21 | Arrowmaster | ive never seen it asked before |
| 21:46.23 | Tularis | way easier to say RTFM than explaining it all the time |
| 21:46.28 | Amadeo | Me either! |
| 21:46.33 | Amadeo | Tularis is a WITCH! |
| 21:46.38 | VonhintenHOME` | that's what irc bots are for |
| 21:46.42 | Tularis | well ofc I am :) |
| 21:46.42 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69783 10CoolDownButtons/ (cdb_base_data.lua config.lua healmana.tga locales/enUS.lua): |
| 21:46.42 | CIA-39 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 21:46.42 | CIA-39 | - disable some settings on certain conditions |
| 21:46.42 | CIA-39 | - changed grouping of potions (merged heal and mana pots) |
| 21:46.51 | kergoth | Primer: theres very good reason to store indentation settings in a file, automated analysis of a file's indentation is certain to be flawed for some if not most cases. the problem is that theres no editor agnostic syntax for inline indentation documentation, so you need seperate for vim and emacs |
| 21:47.18 | VonhintenHOME` | So, if I wanted to see an excellent example of quality lua coding in an addon, what should I look at |
| 21:47.19 | Tularis | which are just the major editors used in UNIX distro's |
| 21:47.21 | Primer | and (add your editor here) x 2 |
| 21:47.29 | Industrial | Tularis: google :D |
| 21:47.30 | Arrowmaster | thats why scite with the proper settings > * |
| 21:47.33 | kergoth | i deal with files in projects with at least 3 different indentation styles every day |
| 21:47.59 | Arrowmaster | i open a file and it automaticly picks the right line ending, tabsize, weither to use tabs or spaces... |
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| 21:49.06 | Tularis | but that's based on a set of rules you've made before |
| 21:49.36 | Tularis | ie. .lua files: tabs, equal 4 spaces; .xml files: tabs, equal 2 spaces, etc. |
| 21:49.45 | kergoth | yeah, good luck with that, Arrowmaster. i'd love to see how it acts with a file using spaces for alignment, tabs and spaces both for indentation (8 space tabs, 4 space shiftwidth), and tabs for compression |
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| 21:49.59 | kergoth | and just wait till you hit files with multiple indentation styles in them, and you dont know which is the correct one :P |
| 21:50.12 | Kurax | waves good night |
| 21:50.21 | Tularis | that's where coding standards come into play ^^ |
| 21:50.26 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 21:50.27 | VonhintenHOME` | !! |
| 21:50.34 | VonhintenHOME` | good luck with that |
| 21:51.02 | VonhintenHOME` | coding standards is like telling coders which religion they're going to follow |
| 21:51.24 | pastamancer | kergoth: let alone mixing different languages in the same file like xml+lua |
| 21:51.26 | Polarina | VonhintenHOME`: That's why we use coding standards. |
| 21:52.11 | hypetech | I don't understand why some people use a HUD *with* unitframes |
| 21:52.12 | CIA-39 | 03pericles * r69784 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.lua: |
| 21:52.12 | CIA-39 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 21:52.12 | CIA-39 | - Fixed nil error targeting opposing faction when pvp mode |
| 21:52.18 | pastamancer | that reminds me... I need to figure out how to convince mmm-mode to use lua-mode for those parts of the xml files |
| 21:52.21 | kergoth | developers with big opinions on indentation need a kick to the head. use whatever the project standards are, with a properly configured editor you won't notice any difference on your end |
| 21:52.34 | CIA-39 | 03vangual * r69785 10PitBull/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua: |
| 21:52.34 | CIA-39 | PitBull |
| 21:52.34 | CIA-39 | - pbtt: Add optional expiry pulses (4 new locale lines) |
| 21:52.36 | Grum | thou shall never use a literal tab in the code unless it is use for indentation from column 0. |
| 21:52.37 | Maelos | Arrowmaster: I was just asking a question considering there's a compilatoin section on the damn site. |
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| 21:52.42 | Grum | +d .. crap |
| 21:52.43 | Primer | kergoth: unless you're coding python |
| 21:52.44 | Maelos | Arrowmaster: You don't need to be so hostile about it. |
| 21:52.48 | Tularis | VonhintenHOME': if multiple people work on a project, especially a big one, people often have a fixed set of coding standards to make sure everything just "works". And everyone uses them. |
| 21:52.55 | Arrowmaster | Maelos: i was hostile? |
| 21:53.00 | Maelos | Yeah? |
| 21:53.14 | Maelos | <Arrowmaster> yeah your not importing an entire fucking compilation to wowace, we dont work that way |
| 21:53.18 | Grum | Tularis: not only often, that's what styleguides are for :) |
| 21:53.31 | VonhintenHOME` | If you start dictating indenting, bracing, etc... you'll stunt people |
| 21:53.37 | Arrowmaster | Maelos: by 'your' i ment people in general not you |
| 21:53.37 | Tularis | well, I was thinking of amateur projects too |
| 21:53.46 | Tularis | they usually have little knowledge of coding standards :P |
| 21:53.50 | Grum | err no VonhintenHOME`, if you do that you get maintainable code :) |
| 21:53.53 | kergoth | VonhintenHOME`: if you dont, you'll end up with files with a shitton of indentation styles mixed together. |
| 21:54.12 | JJSheets | is stunted. :p |
| 21:54.15 | kergoth | any decent size project needs coding style guides, even small ones should |
| 21:54.19 | Tularis | just look at ie. the mozilla codebase |
| 21:54.21 | VonhintenHOME` | Yep, which is why you should get used to reading slop, and get used to reformatting code before you make changes to it |
| 21:54.28 | kergoth | no |
| 21:54.30 | Tularis | it uses coding-standards, luckily |
| 21:54.36 | VonhintenHOME` | If I'm working in a codebase, I check-in a reformatted copy, then start making changes to it |
| 21:54.39 | kergoth | that just produces a ton of changes in the scm that werent actual changes |
| 21:54.40 | luxus | hm |
| 21:54.47 | kergoth | which is contrary to any sane configuration management policy |
| 21:54.59 | kergoth | and will disrupt ones ability to find real changes in th ehistory |
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| 21:55.18 | VonhintenHOME` | which is why I don't make changes without first checking in the reformat.. like I said |
| 21:55.29 | kergoth | thats stillp olluting the history with nonsense |
| 21:55.30 | VonhintenHOME` | Try working in a codebase that's 20 years old |
| 21:55.38 | VonhintenHOME` | you'll change your opinion real quick |
| 21:55.39 | kergoth | good luck doing a git log -S to find an add of a line when you do that shit |
| 21:55.41 | Grum | <VonhintenHOME`> Yep, which is why you should get used to reading slop, and get used to reformatting code before you make changes to it <-- code should be perfect before checked in |
| 21:55.42 | kergoth | i have. |
| 21:55.44 | kergoth | on many occasions |
| 21:55.46 | Grum | and perfect includes style |
| 21:56.12 | kergoth | i'm not arguing against cleaning up the code, i'm against failing to outline policies to prevent that from happening in the first place |
| 21:56.33 | Arrowmaster | like wowace did |
| 21:56.44 | Arrowmaster | now we have a precommit hook to deal with some of it |
| 21:57.03 | kergoth | wowace can't really do much policy, since it has tons of projects. everyone does their own thing, trying to enforce much just gets authors all pissy |
| 21:57.11 | kergoth | thats why you should have seperate repositories |
| 21:57.13 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd rather people code the way they like, so they code effectively |
| 21:57.17 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 21:57.26 | Arrowmaster | but atleast we have the line endings one |
| 21:57.40 | kergoth | i'd rather the code stay maintainable, so they dont have to waste time fixing up other peoples layout fuckups. |
| 21:57.45 | VonhintenHOME` | instead of being burdened by syntax laws |
| 21:57.56 | kergoth | if you cant code effectively with any style, you're incompetent, and i don't need to be working with you |
| 21:58.21 | VonhintenHOME` | some people visualize code differently than you, don't be stupid |
| 21:58.37 | Grum | <VonhintenHOME`> instead of being burdened by syntax laws <-- there is a reason those 'laws' exist |
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| 21:58.51 | Grum | VonhintenHOME`: you are acting stupid imho, with more than 1 person you just code 1 style |
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| 21:58.55 | kergoth | i've never worked on a project whose Configuration Manager would allow someone to regularly pollute the history like you claim to be doing |
| 21:59.00 | Grum | if you dont, shit gets messy really fast |
| 21:59.15 | kergoth | and i've worked closely with many, and acted as the CM on others |
| 21:59.28 | *** join/#wowace Groktar|Nescient (n=Groktar_@c-71-195-127-129.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:59.31 | Maelos | Anyone know if a raid assignments mod? Using FuriousTask but I'm concerned it's not being maintained. |
| 21:59.31 | Gelo | Anyone have a version of rBars that works? |
| 21:59.40 | Gelo | or something similar |
| 21:59.56 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: i still dont have anything in my inbox from you =( |
| 22:00.45 | kergoth | sorry, forgot about it last night. do me a favor and email me a reminder, otherwise i'll likely keep forgetting |
| 22:00.50 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69786 10CoolDownButtons/cdb_base.lua: CoolDownButtons: fixed locale bug |
| 22:01.10 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 22:01.16 | Arrowmaster | k |
| 22:03.24 | kergoth | dont feel bad, i hardly remember to do the laundry without a reminder |
| 22:03.28 | kergoth | need a PDA to yell at me or something |
| 22:03.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont think i have your email |
| 22:04.12 | kergoth | kergoth@gmail |
| 22:04.18 | Arrowmaster | k |
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| 22:04.46 | VonhintenHOME` | So, if you see a file with 28 different styles of coding in it, you'd blast someone for checking in a reformatted version? |
| 22:05.21 | Grum | no |
| 22:05.24 | Arrowmaster | no youd blast the people that checked in 28 different styles of coding |
| 22:05.24 | Grum | it doesnt get checked in in the first place |
| 22:05.24 | Yssaril | VonhintenHOME`, if its just a reformat yes if your actually changing/fixing things it should be fine |
| 22:05.25 | Tularis | I'd blast anyone checking it in in a reformatted version if that wasn't the format we agreed upon upfront |
| 22:05.31 | Grum | that is why you have release-managers :) |
| 22:05.45 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69787 10Chatter/ (Localization/enUS.lua Modules/ClickInvite.lua): Chatter: Add an option to invite people by alt-clicking their names. |
| 22:06.08 | Grum | you can code however you please but the second it merges with 'head' .. you better be able to tick all requirement boxes |
| 22:07.35 | luxus | Antiarc: can you add more options to the time display? or add the brackets to the advanced setup ... i want to just 2344 [g] blabla |
| 22:07.41 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69788 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua locales/enUS.lua): CoolDownButtons: fixed typo & logical mistake |
| 22:07.53 | Grum | luxus: use %H%M as custom tag |
| 22:07.55 | Antiarc | luxus: Just add brackets around your advanced timestamp |
| 22:07.56 | Grum | and you're done |
| 22:08.01 | VonhintenHOME` | I've worked on code so old, and touched by so many developers that it has to be reformatted just to make sense of it... and while you can make the academic argument that it shouldn't have gotten like that in the first place, bottom line is, it gets that way |
| 22:08.03 | Antiarc | [%H%M] |
| 22:08.07 | VonhintenHOME` | maybe not in your perfect job |
| 22:08.19 | Uhuru | AutoTurnIn works only for en clients ? |
| 22:08.21 | Grum | VonhintenHOME`: new code shouldnt |
| 22:08.28 | luxus | ah ok lol sry i think lasttime i try i can't get rid of the brackets |
| 22:08.30 | Grum | and touched code should be reformatted to new standards |
| 22:08.47 | Primer | bah, they firewalled me from WoW at work and I need to find an addon with an example of a button in the bliz options. Anyone know of one off-hand? |
| 22:09.08 | Grum | Chatter :P |
| 22:09.09 | Arrowmaster | Primer: capping |
| 22:09.14 | Grum | or blizz options? |
| 22:09.20 | NivFreak | Primer: haha |
| 22:09.21 | Grum | you mean when you press escape? that menu? |
| 22:09.26 | NivFreak | they firewalled WoW? |
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| 22:09.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 22:10.19 | Primer | yeah |
| 22:10.26 | VonhintenHOME` | And, I can also tell you, I've had people try to enforce syntax law like "no vertical whitespace!" on me... |
| 22:10.45 | VonhintenHOME` | no vertical whitespace cripples the way I visualize and logically arrange code.. so fuck that shit |
| 22:10.58 | *** join/#wowace Ricoo (i=Rico@535290A8.cable.casema.nl) |
| 22:10.59 | Primer | I get ICMP port unreachable from our firewall when I try to connect to the server |
| 22:11.02 | JJSheets | VonhintenHOME`, if you were getting paid, suck it up and make the money. Otherwise, quit the project. |
| 22:11.04 | Ricoo | good evening |
| 22:11.13 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69789 10GridAutoFrameSize/ (GridAutoFrameSize.toc GridAutoFrameSizeLocal-zhTW.lua): |
| 22:11.13 | CIA-39 | GridAutoFrameSize : |
| 22:11.13 | CIA-39 | - Added zhTW localization. (based on Youngway) |
| 22:11.23 | Primer | I have root on the firewall...but man, that'd be pushing it |
| 22:11.30 | JJSheets | lol Primer |
| 22:11.39 | Primer | especially if they're trying to keep me specifically off WoW |
| 22:11.40 | VonhintenHOME` | I prefer playing the all-star programmer card and doing whatever I want |
| 22:11.43 | Grum | VonhintenHOME`: vertical whitespace .. just empty lines? nothnig wrong with that :) |
| 22:11.55 | Ricoo | anyone using kgpanels in combination with pitbull? i am having trouble parenting a panel to my target frame, it will never show when i have a target |
| 22:12.07 | JJSheets | VonhintenHOME`, unless you code exactly to my standards, never touch my code on the SVN. ;) |
| 22:12.20 | Primer | arrowmaster: heh, I was hoping it was an addon I already had |
| 22:12.23 | Primer | looks |
| 22:12.35 | hypetech | http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80117765 |
| 22:12.37 | hypetech | bah |
| 22:12.38 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r69790 10FuBar_RestFu/ (. FuBar_RestFu.toc RestFu.lua embeds.xml): |
| 22:12.38 | CIA-39 | FuBar_RestFu: |
| 22:12.38 | CIA-39 | - Removed need for Babble-2.2 |
| 22:12.38 | CIA-39 | - Classes will be coloured white until you log into them |
| 22:12.38 | hypetech | mt |
| 22:13.03 | VonhintenHOME` | overpriced chair imo |
| 22:13.19 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: lol |
| 22:14.04 | sdouble | haha. [17:14] <hypetech> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80117765 <-- Do not tumble dry. |
| 22:14.16 | hypetech | sdouble: haha wtf |
| 22:14.18 | sdouble | I always run my furniture throught he dryer |
| 22:14.28 | hypetech | do not dryclean |
| 22:14.41 | hypetech | I could just imagine dropping off a chair at the dry cleaners |
| 22:15.11 | Zyndrome | "Do not wash." |
| 22:15.38 | Ackis | how do I properly branch something with tortoise? I tried once before and it just created a sub-folder :( |
| 22:15.43 | Zyndrome | I just thought "hah, never clean it and make it stink up the whole house" |
| 22:16.38 | VonhintenHOME` | so, no one had an answer for my question... what addon should I look at for an excellent exactly of quality lua |
| 22:16.44 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r69791 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 22:16.44 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 22:16.44 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.44 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.44 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.45 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.49 | VonhintenHOME` | exactly=example |
| 22:17.08 | luxus | buttonfacade use librock? |
| 22:17.09 | Arrowmaster | bigwigs |
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| 22:17.31 | JJSheets | luxus, no, Ace3 for the GUI, LibStub only for the Lib. |
| 22:17.43 | luxus | great |
| 22:17.49 | Grum | VonhintenHOME`: Omen / Threat are nice but realllly tweaked beyond hurting i think :) |
| 22:18.13 | VonhintenHOME` | heavily optimized? |
| 22:18.23 | baer_ | i could use some help with maths. |
| 22:18.29 | luxus | because i want to checkout infinity bars but my lazyness stop me.. i don't want to install librock :D |
| 22:18.42 | VonhintenHOME` | why not? |
| 22:18.55 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69792 10Chatter/Modules/LinkHover.lua: Chatter: Fix extra args to SetHyperlink. |
| 22:19.03 | luxus | cause i don't need it |
| 22:19.04 | pastamancer | VonhintenHOME`: look at Grid ;) It's a bit complicated structuraly, but it should all be fairly easy to read |
| 22:19.10 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r69793 10DaHud/ (9 files in 6 dirs): |
| 22:19.10 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 22:19.10 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:20.34 | baer_ | if a mage has 10% aggro reduce skilled & got (paladin's) salvation AND (shaman) totem applied, how much aggro does 1 pts of dmg? |
| 22:20.57 | Fix[EJ] | I wish aggro caused damage |
| 22:21.00 | Fix[EJ] | that would be dope |
| 22:21.12 | pastamancer | the blessing and totem do not stack IIRC |
| 22:21.13 | JoshBorke | seriously? that would be a healing nightmare :-P |
| 22:21.20 | VonhintenHOME` | sure they do |
| 22:21.33 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: they do afaicr |
| 22:21.39 | pastamancer | ah, ok |
| 22:21.43 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure they do stack |
| 22:21.55 | Grum | 0.9*0.7*0.8 ? |
| 22:21.58 | baer_ | pastamancer: do you have sources for that? |
| 22:22.05 | NivFreak | Antiarc: AoE mode still wasn't working for me last night, but I did turn on the tank mode option :) |
| 22:22.06 | JoshBorke | no, pasta is just talking out of his ass |
| 22:22.07 | pastamancer | I guess all our shamans have been busy dropping windfury/woa to drop tranquil air |
| 22:22.08 | VonhintenHOME` | thought it was additive |
| 22:22.22 | Grum | VonhintenHOME`: some things are but threat shouldnt be hehe |
| 22:22.24 | JoshBorke | definitely not additive |
| 22:22.41 | Grum | lua> 0.9*0.7*0.8, 10+30+20 |
| 22:22.42 | lua_bot | Grum: 0.504, 60 |
| 22:23.31 | Antiarc | Threat is almost always multiplicative |
| 22:24.17 | CIA-39 | 03ackis 07Ackis * r69794 10AuldLangSyne/: Created folder remotely |
| 22:24.40 | pastamancer | I haven't seen tranquil air totems since horde got paladins :( |
| 22:24.55 | Grum | they are useless-ish |
| 22:24.56 | Antiarc | windfury/wrath of air! |
| 22:25.05 | Grum | hardly any fight is threat-capped |
| 22:25.12 | VonhintenHOME` | tranquil air is awesome for fights like VR, where you have high DPS shadow priests |
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| 22:25.26 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69795 10GridManaBars/ (GMBLocale-zhTW.lua GridManaBars.toc): |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-39 | GridManaBars: |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 22:25.26 | JoshBorke | VonhintenHOME`: meh, i prefer soulstone |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r69796 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-39 | FuBar_RestFu: |
| 22:25.27 | CIA-39 | - Forgot to remove a piece of debug code |
| 22:25.39 | VonhintenHOME` | well.. that's one option |
| 22:26.02 | luxus | does manabars still work? or does Scorpio translate for fun? :D |
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| 22:26.13 | Grum | VonhintenHOME`: Voidreaver must be one of the worst fights to suggest totems hehe |
| 22:26.24 | VonhintenHOME` | why do you say that? |
| 22:27.09 | Grum | because you tend not to be able to stay within 30 yards of something :D |
| 22:27.20 | luxus | meeles do :-D |
| 22:27.52 | pastamancer | I've been hearing quite a few people have switched to having everyone but one or two hunters in melee range on vr |
| 22:27.52 | CIA-39 | 03ackis 07Ackis * r69797 10AuldLangSyne/LibUpdate/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:27.52 | CIA-39 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 22:27.52 | CIA-39 | - Branch that removed need for Babble |
| 22:27.52 | CIA-39 | - Update to RollCall-2.0 |
| 22:27.52 | CIA-39 | - Just needs an updated TheSocial and it'll be good to go |
| 22:28.15 | VonhintenHOME` | probably not a bad idea if you have a bunch of CoH and chain healers |
| 22:28.26 | Grum | haha pasta :D |
| 22:28.58 | VonhintenHOME` | the spirit change has changed what you can get away with these days |
| 22:29.07 | Grum | then you want to have tranq totems haha |
| 22:29.11 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r69798 10CoolDownButtons/ (cdb_base.lua config.lua): CoolDownButtons: some layout fixes in config dialog and fixed a bug in OmniCC support (thx luxus for testing) |
| 22:29.11 | Grum | that will be non-stop aggro :D |
| 22:29.13 | luxus | normaly 1 chainhealer can heal the meele group |
| 22:29.20 | Grum | one CoH does it better :D |
| 22:29.28 | Grum | pure easy mode |
| 22:30.03 | VonhintenHOME` | true, but can't beat chain heals efficiency |
| 22:30.23 | VonhintenHOME` | chain heal is almost unfair |
| 22:30.28 | luxus | :D |
| 22:30.39 | luxus | for penismeters |
| 22:30.41 | Grum | not all that true |
| 22:30.43 | luxus | äh healmeters |
| 22:30.51 | [SW]Dodge | lol luxus |
| 22:31.01 | Grum | especially if you have groupdmg like at VR |
| 22:31.34 | VonhintenHOME` | CoH is expensive though |
| 22:31.36 | luxus | we always have our personal heal shami next to us :D |
| 22:31.40 | Groktar|Nescient | 405 mana... |
| 22:31.42 | JJSheets | My penis has amazing healing powers. Wait.... what are we talking about? |
| 22:31.46 | Grum | indeed hehe |
| 22:31.54 | luxus | JJSheets: lol |
| 22:32.10 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69799 10GridSideIndicators/ (3 files): |
| 22:32.10 | CIA-39 | GridSideIndicators: |
| 22:32.10 | CIA-39 | - Added zhTW and zhCN localization. (Based on Youngway) |
| 22:32.11 | Grum | i bathe in your white gooey JJSheets, fill my tub again! |
| 22:32.12 | luxus | perhaps it is a german slang... |
| 22:32.16 | *** join/#wowace Nocts (n=Nocts@wsip-70-182-87-69.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 22:32.35 | Aiiane | @.@ |
| 22:32.40 | *** join/#wowace masanbol (n=masanbol@70-138-91-89.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:32.42 | Aiiane | TMI |
| 22:32.49 | JJSheets | Amazing, I've actually managed to disgust myself. :) |
| 22:32.52 | luxus | we call dmg meters "penis meters" because more dmg = longer penis u know? |
| 22:33.03 | VonhintenHOME` | we get it |
| 22:33.09 | CIA-39 | 03phyber * r69800 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua: |
| 22:33.09 | CIA-39 | ManaPerc: |
| 22:33.09 | CIA-39 | - Get rid of redundant tonumber. |
| 22:33.28 | VonhintenHOME` | epeen meter |
| 22:33.43 | [SW]Dodge | luxus: virtual penis comparision ;D |
| 22:34.48 | JoshBorke | ~emulate Grum |
| 22:34.52 | Grum | VirtualPC? |
| 22:35.02 | Grum | mmmm that gets a whole different meaning now O.o |
| 22:35.10 | JoshBorke | purl, emulate grum is <reply> i bathe in your white gooey JJSheets, fill my tub again! |
| 22:35.11 | purl | okay, JoshBorke |
| 22:35.16 | JoshBorke | ~emulate grum |
| 22:35.17 | purl | i bathe in your white gooey JJSheets, fill my tub again! |
| 22:35.23 | Grum | oh cmon :( |
| 22:35.27 | Grum | that wasnt even funsies |
| 22:35.58 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 22:36.02 | JJSheets | Dear God, what have I started? |
| 22:36.09 | Grum | want to bathe with me Ellipsis? |
| 22:36.12 | Grum | its still warm |
| 22:36.20 | Ellipsis | yes plz |
| 22:36.21 | JJSheets | O.o |
| 22:36.28 | Grum | dive in! o/ |
| 22:37.06 | Ellipsis | hops in and gets settled nice and close to Grum |
| 22:37.40 | [SW]Dodge | g'night all^^ |
| 22:38.10 | luxus | lol |
| 22:38.12 | Chaud | 0o |
| 22:38.35 | Grum | splatters around |
| 22:38.58 | Ackis | lol having prat and chatter enabled at the same time made for some interesting chat links |
| 22:39.06 | Grum | yeah hehe |
| 22:39.18 | JJSheets | purl, emulate jjsheets is <reply> My penis has amazing healing powers. |
| 22:39.18 | purl | JJSheets: okay |
| 22:39.30 | JJSheets | ~emulate jjsheets |
| 22:39.30 | purl | My penis has amazing healing powers. |
| 22:39.34 | JJSheets | bwahahahaha |
| 22:39.46 | JJSheets | returns to programming.... |
| 22:39.56 | stew_a | lol |
| 22:40.26 | Dashkal | This channel is disturbing sometimes... |
| 22:40.31 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:40.50 | JJSheets | At least we're not discussing nazi-sex. That was even stranger. |
| 22:41.06 | Dashkal | lol |
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| 22:41.15 | Dashkal | Glad I missed that one :p |
| 22:41.55 | Industrial | JJSheets: http://tinyurl.com/2rdahu |
| 22:41.57 | Industrial | discuss that |
| 22:42.00 | Industrial | NSFW |
| 22:42.03 | Industrial | also, nn |
| 22:42.16 | JJSheets | Not at work, so.... Clickety Click. |
| 22:42.46 | JJSheets | You are pure evil. |
| 22:42.49 | Industrial | mwahaha |
| 22:42.54 | dylanm | Antiarc: Does Chatter assume that you're in a guild at startup or something? |
| 22:42.57 | Industrial | :[ ] |
| 22:43.01 | Ackis | i hate you so much industrial |
| 22:43.02 | Tuller | five guys makes delicious hamburgers |
| 22:43.03 | luxus | .. |
| 22:43.09 | Industrial | I win :D |
| 22:43.12 | pastamancer | Tuller: so true! |
| 22:43.41 | VonhintenHOME` | soooo killing this IE process |
| 22:43.43 | Dashkal | Dare I ask? @work so not clicking |
| 22:44.00 | MentalPower | yeah, don't click |
| 22:44.01 | JJSheets | Shouldn't have clicked even not at work. |
| 22:44.05 | mitch0 | vonhinten: you seriously use IE? :P |
| 22:44.12 | Zicon | Awwwh. They look like they're having fun! |
| 22:44.15 | Dashkal | Need a VM to test in :p |
| 22:44.16 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah |
| 22:44.19 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69801 10GridStatusHots/ (GridStatusHots.toc GridStatusHots_locale.lua): |
| 22:44.19 | CIA-39 | GridStatusHots: |
| 22:44.19 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 22:44.19 | Industrial | :') |
| 22:44.25 | luxus | Industrial: i hate you :( |
| 22:44.25 | Industrial | I love the internet. |
| 22:44.39 | JJSheets | rummages through his bathroom for the eye and brain bleach. |
| 22:44.46 | JJSheets | ~lart Industrial |
| 22:44.46 | purl | eats Industrial and falls over dead |
| 22:44.48 | Dashkal | lol, ok, yeah, don't tell me |
| 22:44.50 | JoshBorke | definitely not clicking on it |
| 22:44.55 | JoshBorke | and i'm not at work |
| 22:45.03 | Primer | scorpio is one busy dude |
| 22:45.31 | JJSheets | Well, that's one firefox session I won't be restoring after killing the process. |
| 22:45.36 | VonhintenHOME` | I've seen worse, but that wasn't something I wanted to see right now |
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| 22:46.28 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm just glad it wasn't some sick death or shit related thing =P |
| 22:46.45 | JJSheets | I'm sure some shit was involved in it somewhere. |
| 22:46.59 | MentalPower | ok, how the hell do you close a single tab in FF (key combo) |
| 22:47.06 | JJSheets | lmao MentalPower |
| 22:47.08 | [eu]gunder | meh Luckily the back key was working in FF3, Industrial you are evil |
| 22:47.27 | ben___ | Is there any reason that worldmap addons cannot use the more detailed minimap graphics instead of the drawn worldmap? |
| 22:47.30 | Dashkal | Meh, all the more reason to avoid EvE: http://games.slashdot.org/games/08/04/14/2046246.shtml That someone had to resort to that and how they're handling it |
| 22:48.01 | Dashkal | ben___: ckk is working on that |
| 22:48.16 | *** join/#wowace Fritz (n=UPP@ip72-198-32-39.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 22:48.16 | ben___ | Parrot not working is forgiven then! |
| 22:48.26 | mitch0 | mental: ctrl-f4? |
| 22:48.36 | Dashkal | MentalPower: ctrl-w |
| 22:48.56 | Fritz | Does Nymbia, author of Quartz, come here ever? |
| 22:49.12 | dylanm | He seems somewhat busy. |
| 22:49.18 | Industrial | ~seen Nymbia |
| 22:49.20 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 22h 51m 22s ago, saying: 'Funkeh`: you better be checking over every line that gets committed'. |
| 22:49.40 | MentalPower | nop, had to end process |
| 22:49.43 | Fritz | 8 days ago huh? Guess I better make a post on the forum.. |
| 22:50.04 | Fritz | I'm wishing there was a way to hide the 'focus' castbar if my target and focus are the same. |
| 22:50.30 | ben___ | And, uh, the target cast bar if the target and the player are the same? |
| 22:50.51 | Fritz | Sure, why not - but I barely ever have myself targeted anyway |
| 22:51.22 | Fritz | Mostly the target and focus thing. I set focuses automatically when I use a certain sheep macro and when i go back to that target it's somewhat distracting to see two castbars whenever they cast a spell |
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| 22:51.53 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:52.07 | Dashkal | welcome back |
| 22:52.25 | ckknight | Hjalte: lulz |
| 22:52.27 | Fritz | Do you know of any cast bar addons that can do that ben? |
| 22:52.43 | ckknight | hey all, I own a car now |
| 22:53.06 | luxus | gz |
| 22:53.11 | JJSheets | Tell us it's not a Ford, ckknight. |
| 22:53.13 | Tularis | nice |
| 22:53.24 | ckknight | Toyota Corolla |
| 22:53.31 | ckknight | I don't trust American car dealerships |
| 22:53.35 | kergoth | god, my mom rented a ford focus when she was in town a few weeks ago, what a piece of shit |
| 22:53.42 | JJSheets | Oooh, nice. Toyota's are reliable bastards. I love my RAV4. |
| 22:53.42 | ckknight | their quality doesn't match their price relative to Japanese |
| 22:53.45 | kergoth | the steering wheel shook when i went over 70 mph |
| 22:54.22 | Aens|Superiority | kergoth: that could be a sign of poor wheel alignment, a maintenance issue. |
| 22:54.35 | kergoth | still, it had like 2k miles on the thing |
| 22:54.36 | NivFreak | ckknight: I bought an 06 for the wife last year, it's not a bad car. |
| 22:54.39 | kergoth | it shouldnt be falling apart -yet- |
| 22:54.44 | ben___ | Fritz: No |
| 22:54.46 | ckknight | NivFreak: I got an 06 |
| 22:54.54 | ckknight | it's burgundy |
| 22:54.56 | ckknight | or maroon |
| 22:54.57 | ckknight | or something |
| 22:54.57 | kergoth | it bounced so bad after hitting a speed bump at like 15mph that the bumper bottomed out on the ground |
| 22:54.58 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:54.59 | ckknight | I need a camera |
| 22:55.00 | NivFreak | same as ours |
| 22:55.11 | NivFreak | the light colored interior |
| 22:55.12 | ckknight | NivFreak: treating you well, though? |
| 22:55.12 | Dashkal | It's a rental. The one before you probably took it offroading for a solid week then said nothing when returning it |
| 22:55.15 | NivFreak | did you get a CE or LE? |
| 22:55.19 | Aens|Superiority | kergoth: alignment is not a design issue. They are supposed to be re-aligned as part of the pre-sale. I'm guessing the dealership or the rental place didn't bother. |
| 22:55.22 | ckknight | NivFreak: I don't know |
| 22:55.27 | ckknight | NivFreak: what's the difference? |
| 22:55.31 | NivFreak | options basically |
| 22:55.38 | NivFreak | low end vs high end |
| 22:56.08 | NivFreak | anyway, it's a fine car. Runs great. I'm not a fan of it because I'm 6'6" and the steering wheel is awkward to me |
| 22:56.20 | ckknight | probably low end, the car's not an extension of my penis |
| 22:56.21 | NivFreak | but it's the wife's |
| 22:56.39 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:56.48 | NivFreak | there isn't a toyota made that is an extension of anyone's penis :) |
| 22:56.49 | ckknight | I'm 5'10", seemed fine to me |
| 22:56.58 | ckknight | yea, my penis is big enough |
| 22:57.01 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:57.04 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r69802 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/ (GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc): |
| 22:57.04 | CIA-39 | GridStatusMissingBuffs: |
| 22:57.04 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 22:57.04 | CIA-39 | - Added zhCN localization. |
| 22:57.12 | NivFreak | I just stick to my motorcycle |
| 22:57.19 | NivFreak | the only thing that keeps me sane in the city |
| 22:58.00 | JJSheets | Must not be like my City then. Bikers risk their lives here, what with idiots and cell phones. |
| 22:58.24 | Fritz | Holy crap. I was about to add my suggestion to the Quartz thread but there's a ton of people ahead of me so to speak. |
| 22:59.08 | [eu]gunder|sleep | night all |
| 22:59.26 | Fritz | Maybe I should pay someone to do this. |
| 22:59.53 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r69803 10ZOMGBuffs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:59.53 | CIA-39 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 22:59.53 | CIA-39 | - New option to always use single target buffs. |
| 22:59.53 | CIA-39 | - No longer loads the Blessings module accidentally. |
| 23:00.40 | Arrowmaster | Fritz: what was your suggestion? |
| 23:00.46 | Tularis | JJSheets: come to the netherlands, it's omg safe for bikers here |
| 23:00.52 | Fritz | I want the focus castbar to hide itself whenever my focus and target are the same. |
| 23:01.16 | Fritz | It's very distracting to have two castbars showing the same thing when it's not necessary. |
| 23:01.21 | Arrowmaster | wow an actual feature request relivent to the addon |
| 23:01.48 | Arrowmaster | most people request stuff that would never get added to quartz |
| 23:01.51 | Tularis | a rare sight indeed |
| 23:02.22 | hypetech | I would assume the focus would still be maintained in case you happened to cycle through it, and not totally cleared when target=focus |
| 23:02.24 | hypetech | ? |
| 23:02.56 | Fritz | What do you mean? |
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| 23:03.40 | ben___ | No one is touching your focus |
| 23:04.16 | Dashkal | Fritz: What would you have done in the case of focus==target when he starts casting, then you change target |
| 23:04.16 | Arsonide | Name that mod: It displace an ElkBuffBar like display in the center of my screen, but it shows the targets buffs, not mine. I want to get rid of it since my target already has his buffs in his frame as icons. |
| 23:04.19 | Gelo | lol, badge vendor just got 100% and there's skeletons EVERYWHERE |
| 23:04.27 | Gelo | i'd say 200 corpses |
| 23:04.57 | Fritz | Dashkal: Preferably I would want the focus castbar to suddenly start showing if possible - but I would much rather have it -not- show if the alternative was for both of them showing all the time. |
| 23:05.38 | Fritz | Probably the easiest way would be to set the alpha of the focus castbar to 0 when my target matches my focus |
| 23:05.47 | Fritz | And then changes it back to normal when I change target. |
| 23:08.11 | Xelo | Does quartz not have command line config? |
| 23:08.59 | Dashkal | offtopic: Can anybody suggest a place (other than reading the ircd code) that defines what the channel or user mode letters mean? |
| 23:09.15 | Fritz | Not to my knowledge. I think there is a command to set a timer - but that's all I know of. |
| 23:10.18 | mitch0 | . |
| 23:10.33 | Arrowmaster | Dashkal: for freenode? |
| 23:10.36 | Fritz | I'm not seeing any mention of it in the readme or anywhere really, being able to change settings through command line |
| 23:10.47 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 23:10.51 | ben___ | Dashkal: Your irc network's documentation or the google results for "rfc irc" |
| 23:10.54 | Arrowmaster | Dashkal: check the website |
| 23:10.56 | home|prophy | so is recount still the only dmgmeter working?? |
| 23:10.56 | Dashkal | Or even in general. I have no idea what +tn means anymore |
| 23:11.12 | Arrowmaster | oh +nt is standard |
| 23:11.21 | Arrowmaster | +t is nobody but ops can change topic |
| 23:11.24 | Dashkal | Looking on the freenode website, but the only lead I have is the ircd code |
| 23:11.25 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r69804 10DaHud/ (8 files in 6 dirs): |
| 23:11.25 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 23:11.25 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.29 | Arrowmaster | +n is no external messages |
| 23:11.30 | VonhintenHOME` | no external message, only ops can change topic |
| 23:11.31 | CIA-39 | 03orionshock * r69805 10SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua: |
| 23:11.31 | CIA-39 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 23:11.31 | CIA-39 | -support anti-quest looping better.. why i don't know... |
| 23:11.41 | Dashkal | ahh, good mode flags to have |
| 23:12.11 | ben___ | What does SickOfClickingDailies do? |
| 23:12.21 | Dashkal | bleh, I can't even remember how to get at my user flags. My irc knowledge is fail |
| 23:12.24 | Orionshock | i go sick of clicking gossip text |
| 23:12.38 | Fritz | Would anyone be willing to code this? |
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| 23:13.00 | Dashkal | Aha, found it. If anybody else is curious: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 23:13.16 | Nocts | What's the pizza place that starts with an M? |
| 23:13.30 | JJSheets | Monicals. |
| 23:14.03 | Fritz | I have a pretty bright focus cast bar to differentiate it from the target cast bar so I don't get my two counterspells confused - not only is it a distraction when they're both showing the same target's cast, but it doesn't look good in the recording either, I'm making a video. |
| 23:14.39 | Diao | wtf |
| 23:14.42 | Diao | isn't the svn updated every 20 min |
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| 23:17.11 | mitch0 | no |
| 23:17.28 | Trela | I have a completely random question if any one knows the answer. Is there an API to get a NPC's description, such as "Auctioneer"? |
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| 23:17.36 | mitch0 | the zips are updated like that (not sure about the exact interval though) |
| 23:17.40 | Dashkal | files.wowace.com should be updated at :00, :20, and :40. But the script misses a pass once in awhile |
| 23:17.45 | Diao | hm |
| 23:17.50 | Diao | it's missed 2 passes so far :( |
| 23:17.51 | foso | Is it posible to macro/automate moving people betwean groups in combat? |
| 23:17.55 | Diao | i saw the ALS commit |
| 23:18.02 | Diao | and 50 min ago :o |
| 23:18.12 | mitch0 | foso: don't think so |
| 23:18.22 | Trela | Foso, yes, I know X-Perl has a way to do this. |
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| 23:18.29 | mitch0 | oh |
| 23:18.36 | Fritz | wb Arrowmaster |
| 23:18.42 | Dashkal | this one? It looks like it was in a branch: [15:27]<CIA-39>ackis Ackis * r69797 AuldLangSyne/LibUpdate/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:18.47 | mitch0 | thought they didn't want to allow that 'cos that would make it possible to automate healing? |
| 23:18.49 | Trela | Yes setup the groups ahead of time and then use it to switch them in combat. |
| 23:18.59 | Trela | *You |
| 23:19.31 | mitch0 | No YOU! |
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| 23:19.36 | Trela | YES! |
| 23:19.40 | Trela | OH YES! |
| 23:19.45 | Fritz | Arrowmaster do you think you'd be able to code it? I made an extra $10 yesterday so I'd be able to send you that in return if you have paypal |
| 23:20.05 | adylaa | Hello, where can I follow the svn/commit/changlog of Omen (wow addon) ? ty ! |
| 23:20.13 | Ackis | Dashkal, yah it's a branch |
| 23:20.18 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r69806 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: update e-parenting check |
| 23:20.20 | Dashkal | There you go, Daio :p |
| 23:20.40 | Ellipsis | adylaa: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/Omen |
| 23:21.20 | adylaa | Ellipsis Thanks a lot ;-) This addon is soo quick that I like to see whats happen with it ! |
| 23:21.26 | Arrowmaster | Fritz: i might be able to when i get some free time |
| 23:21.52 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r69807 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: undo last commit, hit wrong button |
| 23:22.12 | Ellipsis | adylaa: you probably also want to watch http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/Threat-2.0 for changes to the threat library itself |
| 23:22.44 | Fritz | AM: When should I check back |
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| 23:27.11 | hypetech | skinner is not skinning dropdown boxes in character pane |
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| 23:28.34 | CIA-39 | 03aiiane * r69808 10Vox/Vox.toc: |
| 23:28.34 | CIA-39 | Vox: |
| 23:28.34 | CIA-39 | - Updated TOC for 2.4 |
| 23:29.13 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69809 10Chatter/Modules/ChannelNames.lua: Chatter: Fix a ChannelNames bug |
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| 23:31.43 | vithos | why isn't it possible to assign different actions to different frames in Clique :( |
| 23:31.47 | vithos | or am i just fail? |
| 23:33.36 | foso | define different frames |
| 23:33.50 | vithos | i want to set focus with right click, but clear focus when right clicking on the focus frame |
| 23:34.06 | foso | macro magic it :\ |
| 23:34.21 | vithos | i don't think it can be done with a macro |
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| 23:35.47 | vithos | hmm maybe UnitActionBars can do it |
| 23:36.39 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.45 | Dashkal | Just guessing, not sure if that would actually work |
| 23:37.00 | Dashkal | erm, [target=focus, exists] none |
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| 23:38.02 | vithos | that would clear focus when right clicking on a unit that isn't currently my focus, no? |
| 23:38.10 | Aiiane | hmm |
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| 23:38.12 | Aiiane | vithos |
| 23:39.03 | Aiiane | are you just wanting to clear it when you're done with a mob or the like? because you could probably just do a /clearfocus, and then a /focus [nodead] or the like |
| 23:39.03 | vithos | no |
| 23:39.03 | vithos | i'm mostly focusing different raid members |
| 23:39.06 | Aiiane | ic |
| 23:39.11 | vithos | and have macros that use focus if it exists, target otherwise |
| 23:39.11 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r69810 10DaHud/ (modules/Bars/Core.lua plugins/Bars/Health.lua): |
| 23:39.11 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 23:39.11 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.16 | vithos | like for misdirection |
| 23:39.24 | Dashkal | bleh, there's no [mouseover=focus] test in macros, which is what you really need |
| 23:39.34 | vithos | yeah, a macro won't cut it |
| 23:39.50 | Aiiane | i wonder |
| 23:39.54 | Aiiane | what would happen if you did |
| 23:40.07 | Aiiane | just /clearfocus, then /focus |
| 23:40.07 | vithos | Clique's frame settings are global, not per keybind, and you can't have duplicate keybinds anyway |
| 23:40.09 | Aiiane | with clique |
| 23:40.23 | vithos | hm |
| 23:40.28 | Aiiane | since you'd clear the focus |
| 23:40.34 | vithos | that wouldn't work either |
| 23:40.37 | Aiiane | so if clique then tried to focus your focus target |
| 23:40.39 | vithos | because i'd possibly have a target still |
| 23:40.40 | Aiiane | it wouldnt exist |
| 23:40.41 | vithos | like the boss |
| 23:41.06 | Dashkal | Aiiane: You'd end up clearing the focus target, then focusing them again immediately (mouseover would still be whoever focus is when right-clicking on the focus frame) |
| 23:41.19 | Aiiane | hmm, i guess |
| 23:41.54 | Dashkal | vithos: Make middle-click clear focus? or alt-right-click? |
| 23:42.02 | vithos | that's not what i want though! :P |
| 23:42.03 | Dashkal | not idea, but it would give you the functionality |
| 23:42.06 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r69811 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints/ (BasicComboPoints.lua BasicComboPoints.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:42.06 | CIA-39 | BasicComboPoints: v3 |
| 23:42.06 | CIA-39 | - Customizable colors per point |
| 23:42.06 | CIA-39 | - Customizable size per point |
| 23:42.06 | CIA-39 | - SharedMedia Font selection |
| 23:42.06 | Dashkal | ideal* |
| 23:42.08 | CIA-39 | - Using blizz config, removed slash command |
| 23:42.10 | CIA-39 | - Upgraded to LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 23:42.16 | vithos | i'm going to try UAB, its description sounds like it might work |
| 23:44.13 | vithos | nope, i don't think this is remotely close to what i need |
| 23:44.46 | Gngsk | Funkeh`, haven't tried BasicComboPoints can you set it to turn green when you have cp+x num charges of dp ? |
| 23:44.59 | vithos | just need Clique to have better config |
| 23:45.08 | JoshBorke | what'sw rong with clique config? |
| 23:45.19 | Funkeh` | Gngsk, no, only amount of CP |
| 23:45.22 | vithos | the frame selection is global instead of per-keybind |
| 23:45.44 | vithos | so you can't have multiple actions with the same keybind |
| 23:46.03 | clad|sleep | that would be a nightmare to config |
| 23:46.06 | NivFreak | hrmm, is there any reason not to use a warlock in FR gear to tank Anetheron? |
| 23:46.09 | clad|sleep | if you need something that granular, why not just have a macro that sets up the attribetus for you |
| 23:46.15 | Gngsk | Funkeh`, is it something you might consider adding if I wrote a patch or something? |
| 23:46.17 | NivFreak | er |
| 23:46.18 | NivFreak | rather |
| 23:46.19 | NivFreak | his adds |
| 23:46.38 | JoshBorke | clad|sleep: because it's my way or the highway |
| 23:46.41 | JoshBorke | continues singing |
| 23:46.45 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Because he melees? |
| 23:46.50 | Funkeh` | Gngsk, maybe |
| 23:46.56 | vithos | what do you mean sets up the attributes? |
| 23:47.08 | NivFreak | Antiarc: the infernals do? |
| 23:47.11 | clad|sleep | sets up the secure attributes to enable click-casting |
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| 23:47.22 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: wtf are you smoking? |
| 23:47.37 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I'm asking a question |
| 23:47.42 | NivFreak | I haven't done the fight yet |
| 23:47.42 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:47.48 | vithos | what i want is quite simple: right click on any unit frame sets that unit as focus, EXCEPT for the focus frame, which clears focus when you right click it |
| 23:47.52 | Arrowmaster | what infernals |
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| 23:48.01 | hypetech | Any way I can get ZOMGBuffs to only assign for groups 1-5? |
| 23:48.04 | NivFreak | Anetheron's towering infernals |
| 23:48.12 | Aiiane | anetheron's Towering Infernals - the adds |
| 23:48.21 | clad|sleep | vithos: yes, its simple to say |
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| 23:48.27 | Arrowmaster | theres no infernals during the fight |
| 23:48.31 | clad|sleep | and you could code an addon to do that |
| 23:48.42 | clad|sleep | now think outside your limited situation to a general solution to the more general problem |
| 23:48.44 | clad|sleep | that's the issue |
| 23:48.56 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: hrm? did this change? |
| 23:48.59 | Antiarc | NivFreak: I think they do |
| 23:49.00 | Aiiane | Arrowmaster: Is wowhead just comepletely out of date then? |
| 23:49.08 | Aiiane | "Inferno: Targets a random player summons a Towering Infernal on them, inflicting Inferno Effect on any players in the area dealing around 2500 Fire damage and inflicting a temporary stun." |
| 23:49.16 | Arrowmaster | oh that |
| 23:49.19 | Antiarc | There are infernals during Anethron |
| 23:49.22 | Arrowmaster | they still melee |
| 23:49.24 | Antiarc | Maybe you thought Azgalor |
| 23:49.24 | Kalroth | Silly Arrowmaster |
| 23:49.38 | Arrowmaster | pff i never remember the names of hyjal bosses |
| 23:49.41 | Arrowmaster | just the order |
| 23:49.45 | NivFreak | #3 |
| 23:49.46 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:49.53 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:49.56 | Funkeh` | im the opposite |
| 23:50.02 | Kalroth | Speaking of silly, hi Antiarc, just the man I needed! |
| 23:50.03 | Funkeh` | remember the names forget he order |
| 23:50.31 | Kalroth | Chill, Annie, Kaz0r, Assgalore and crater dude! |
| 23:50.51 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r69812 10BasicComboPoints/: .trunk: BasicComboPoints: delete v1 |
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| 23:51.27 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r69813 10BasicComboPoints/: BasicComboPoints: import v3 |
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| 23:52.56 | Arsonide | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.11 | Arsonide | This should switch my pet's target if he exists and is sitting on his ass right? |
| 23:53.26 | Arsonide | I want to throw it in with frostbolt but not have errors spammed at me while I'm fighting with no pet out. |
| 23:53.46 | JoshBorke | clad|sleep: thinking outside teh narrow problem is not something someone who is asleep is capable of doing |
| 23:53.55 | WobWork | I... don't think water elementals -have- arses... |
| 23:54.06 | Kalroth | WobWork: Did you ever check? |
| 23:54.08 | Diao | hmm |
| 23:54.14 | Diao | did the latest chatter commit break channelnames |
| 23:54.21 | Diao | it's not replacing the channel names anymore :o |
| 23:55.42 | vithos | clad|sleep: i'm going to assume there's something i don't understand about secure templates. it seems to me Clique would need to a) not check whether the selected bind is already in use. b) have an up/down control for the action list to control priority. c) have the frame editor dialog not be clickable unless you have an action selected, and save those settings per-action. d) check whether each action |
| 23:55.44 | vithos | has frame X enabled for it in order down the list whenever something is changed, to actually apply the keybinds correctly |
| 23:55.58 | alcaras | is the current version of grid ok? |
| 23:56.04 | Gotai | Arsonide: It will make your pet attack your current target if you're targetting your pet, or if he has no target. |
| 23:56.11 | clad|sleep | and that complicates the clique configuration by an order of magnitude |
| 23:56.14 | Gotai | If you want to check if you have an active pet,use [pet] |
| 23:56.16 | clad|sleep | hence why it has not been implemented. |
| 23:56.24 | vithos | complicates it for you, or for users? |
| 23:56.28 | clad|sleep | for the users |
| 23:56.28 | clad|sleep | and for me |
| 23:56.33 | clad|sleep | its a nasty implementation change |
| 23:56.39 | clad|sleep | and things no longer just "work" |
| 23:57.08 | clad|sleep | and I have to jump through hoops making sure there aren't any conflicts at each point of the way |
| 23:57.20 | JoshBorke | ooo |
| 23:57.23 | JoshBorke | i have the solution! |
| 23:57.27 | JoshBorke | fork and code! |
| 23:57.27 | clad|sleep | I'd love to make some changes to Clique to be more accommodating for your needs, but understand its just not a simple change. |
| 23:57.54 | vithos | i understand it's not trivial to implement, but i don't see the big deal about the change as far as user experience goes |
| 23:57.56 | hypetech | Any way I can get ZOMGBuffs to only assign for groups 1-5? |
| 23:58.06 | vithos | seems like it'd be able to default to behaving just like before |
| 23:58.11 | clad|sleep | Clique is favorited by over 1700 people, and many more than that actually use it. I'm not a fan of making sweeping changes that will change the experience for my users. |
| 23:58.13 | clad|sleep | able to yes |
| 23:58.17 | clad|sleep | but there would be bugs |
| 23:58.20 | clad|sleep | and people rely heavily on Clique |
| 23:58.39 | Diao | ohh |
| 23:58.40 | clad|sleep | this is why I haven't changed it drastically since it was re-implemented during Alpha |
| 23:58.53 | Diao | Antiarc: chatter channelnames is only working in the first chat window; it doesn't work in any other ones |
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| 23:59.35 | Fritz | Arrowmaster: When should I check back on coding that Quartz thing? |
| 23:59.45 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 23:59.50 | Diao | actually it seems all the modules are only working in the first chat window |
| 23:59.52 | Arsonide | Gotai: Alright what about /petattack [pet] [target=pettarget,noexists] |
| 23:59.58 | Diao | secondary windows are having problems |
